stephen stills sucks

nah, it wasn't really that bad.☺

but yeah, nobody ever needs to hear a recording of someone else making that sound.

I think you guys are over emphasizing the vocals
The musics the thing, lyrics maybe

If anyone wants to know what makes Nash worthwhile, you need to hear the later Hollies tracks that he wrote and sang (not so much their singles).

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stills =(

If anyone wants to know what makes Nash worthwhile, you need to hear the later Hollies tracks that he wrote and sang (not so much their singles).

Here are some songs I really like:

So Lonely
I've Got a Way Of My Own
Oriental Sadness
Stop Right There
Maker
Away Away Away
Postcard
Butterfly
Wings

It's not necessarily going to convince anyone who thinks of Nash as a lightweight, but his melodic sensibilities and voice make more sense to me in the context of UK psychedelic "Ye Olde Toffee Shoppe" pop than laidback West Coast rock.

Anyway, I'll never be a Stills lover, but the first Manassas album is probably the best "solo" record by any of C, S or N.

actually the first Manassass record (surprisingly
solid) and the one right after it, Down the Road (mostly forgettable and I sold it long ago), are really the only two “solo” Stills records I’ve heard from stem to stern iirc

*i felt like a lot of IICORMN wasn’t that innaresting

self-titled and 2 are pretty dreadful.

i still like manassass though. eerie and eclectic.

The second Nash solo LP, Wild Tales, is recommended to Neil fans, as Nash is backed by the Time Fades Away band (minus Jack Nietzsche).

co-sign that. just played songs for beginners and wild tales because of this thread. really love those. very introspective, earnest stuff. "grave concern" is a jam.

those cd box sets that graham nash compiled for each csn member are pretty cool

He made Suite: Judy Blue Eyes, he's never going to hell

Yeah Suite gets overlooked due to ubiquity I guess but it’s dope af

If anyone wants to know what makes Nash worthwhile, you need to hear the later Hollies tracks that he wrote and sang (not so much their singles).

Like what
― calstars, Wednesday, May 18, 2022 6:19 PM

got curious myself because i only knew the real big ones ("king midas" and "bus stop" basically) and the whole album butterfly is about as solid as it gets for britpop of the time. i would say it's closer to what the kinks were doing on albums like face to face or something else than anything else i'm familiar with. hint of buffalo springfield spice in that you really can sense who was the leader on each song, even though they have joint writing credit (suppose you could say the same for the beatles in the end, obvs). his songs with csn(y) seem like a pretty logical progression in hindsight. hollies' harmonies are also super good. not a new opinion, i know. but i've never really heard this stuff in depth before. "RECOMMENDED IF YOU LIKE . . ." kind of deal. it's quite nice.☺

(also i didn't know what i was doing and played the back-to-back mono->stereo version. stereo version doesn't really work on headphones. "try it" is good fun though. most of the songs are still great, regardless of mix.)

oh yeah, sorry to up this for the reason of not shit talking sexy stevie. you sensual thumb puppet, with a heart of pure cocaine.♥

I like how in Shakey, Stills often comes across as the Daffy Duck to Neil's Bugs Bunny.

I'm not familiar with who-does-what in the Hollies, but besides a long run of excellent singles (stretching beyond Nash's time in the group), I really enjoy Evolution as well - an under-appreciated gem from the Summer of Love.

The stereo/mono/etc. mixes with their back catalog is kind of a mess, thanks to both frequent re-issues of the '90s-era remixes and the fact that the Hollies camp refuses to allow any licensee to remaster the mono mixes - they're all forced to use the shitty sounding digital masters that were heavily processed with NoNoise. I prefer mono but I'm hoping someone out there digitally transfers good copies of the original vinyl.

is Manassas kind of a weird forgtten gem of a project?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQ01tkS8nhU

i still like manassass though. eerie and eclectic.

― Let's disco dance, Hammurabi! (Austin), Wednesday, May 18, 2022 7:24 PM

besides buffalo springfield, it's the best thing he ever did.

hehe, cool! just getting into it

Ha, I was listening to a streaming radio station recently and this kinda swampy, kinda funky, early 70s rock banger came on and it totally turned by head cuz I certainly hadn't heard it before, couldn't quite place the singer thought he was def familiar and it was of course Manassas and I was like "goddammit I have to listen to the whole record now don't I?"

me too

am very much enjoying this thread. also very much missing scott seward at times like this.

Stephen Stills aboard his boat "Manassas" docked in Gold Beach, Oregon in 1977. pic.twitter.com/T9esBbMfNB

— JoyToKnow (@JoyToKnow1) October 13, 2018

I have my ship
And all her flags are a-flying
She is all that I have left
And music MANASSAS is her name!

Just checking his wiki, learned a his pearl:

He sold out MSG the day before George Harrison organised the Concert For Bangladesh, and Stills donated his stage, sound, lighting system and production manager but was upset when Harrison "neglected to invite him to perform, mention his name, or say thank you". Stills then spent the show drunk in Ringo Starr's dressing room, "barking at everyone". Stills's Madison Square Garden show was professionally recorded and filmed but has never been released, although a filmed recording of "Go Back Home" was played in early 1972 on the Old Grey Whistle Test, and two acoustic tracks were released on Stills 2013 box set Carry On.

lol

I dunno, I'd probably be a little annoyed, too

THat first Manassas lp is pretty great as were live sets I have heard from the time. & CSNY had some great guitar burn live too.
I think I need to get his solo lp and the set of demoes from between Buffalo Springfield and CSN.

Somehow “stills barking at everyone” is very easy to imagine, backstage, maybe sitting on a fold out metal chair, whiskey in hand

Also like to imagine “stills banking at everyone” where he’s still barking but also giving advice on credit default swaps and fx rates

The fact that he was married to Veronique Sanson blows my mind somewhat.

xp Yeah, I'd be annoyed too. Donating all that is no small thing, the least George could've done is say thank you. But getting drunk and yelling at everyone wasn't the way to handle it.

pssh
It’s the perfect way to handle it

otm

Stephen Stills did not like Punk Rock. Foreigner get a pass though. pic.twitter.com/dilG3ehFP8

— Bobby Lee (@BobbyLeeBoogie) December 9, 2022

johnny "rotten" is right

Is that real?

i sure hope so.

Dirty, Loud, and Tasteful: the Stephen Stills Story
by Stephen Stills

"FIRST QUESTION: IS THIS A GUY OR A CHICK?"

"sir this is a wienerschnitzel"

Do you think he was slapping random things all offbeat when he said "That groove my man Mick is laying down"

johnny "rotten" is right

xpost LOL!

From FB:

"I keep bass strings on my bass for two years at a time. I play bass so hard that I really thump it so, when I get a new string, I buy some barbecue sauce and sit and rub it in. This is because it's got to get a little funky, rusty, and greasy in there so it will start to respond. And that's something you can't build on a machine." Stephen Stills

it rubs the BBQ sauce on its skin

so gross!

Does he say what brand of BBQ sauce he uses? I need to know if thicker sauce = thicker bass

Anything left over from what the strings he slathers on his ribs.