― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 12 August 2004 18:07 (nineteen years ago) link
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i mean yeah, i was being a little hyberbolic. i can see him as good looking and sexy and all that.
― |a|m|t|r|s|t| (amateurist), Thursday, 12 August 2004 18:07 (nineteen years ago) link
― |a|m|t|r|s|t| (amateurist), Thursday, 12 August 2004 18:09 (nineteen years ago) link
― cºzen (Cozen), Thursday, 12 August 2004 18:09 (nineteen years ago) link
― Harold Media (kenan), Thursday, 12 August 2004 18:10 (nineteen years ago) link
― |a|m|t|r|s|t| (amateurist), Thursday, 12 August 2004 18:12 (nineteen years ago) link
― cºzen (Cozen), Thursday, 12 August 2004 18:12 (nineteen years ago) link
well Madchen put it more succinctly upthread:
He doesn't look like a zombie so much as he looks like he's always concealing the desire to launch across a room and beat someone to death with their own shoes.
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― jed_ (jed), Thursday, 12 August 2004 18:13 (nineteen years ago) link
Also, I saw him on a different talk show recently where he started laughing uncrollably for a good minute, if not more, and when he tried to speak he couldn't. I wasn't paying enough attention beforehand to know the context or to understand what was going on when he finally was able to talk, but that was a definite chink in the armor moment.
― nickn (nickn), Thursday, 12 August 2004 18:24 (nineteen years ago) link
― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 12 August 2004 18:26 (nineteen years ago) link
― jed_ (jed), Thursday, 12 August 2004 18:45 (nineteen years ago) link
― Harold Media (kenan), Thursday, 12 August 2004 18:46 (nineteen years ago) link
(it's midnight for now tho, but later)
cruise's magnolia = von trier's five obstructions?
― prima fassy (mwah), Thursday, 12 August 2004 21:40 (nineteen years ago) link
― Mr. Tony Plow (Leee), Thursday, 12 August 2004 22:35 (nineteen years ago) link
― keith m (keithmcl), Thursday, 12 August 2004 23:43 (nineteen years ago) link
― erik, Friday, 13 August 2004 12:18 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 13 August 2004 13:00 (nineteen years ago) link
― g--ff (gcannon), Friday, 13 August 2004 13:26 (nineteen years ago) link
― Huey (Huey), Friday, 13 August 2004 13:29 (nineteen years ago) link
"Vanilla Sky" commentary? Oh the shame...
― Huey (Huey), Friday, 13 August 2004 13:30 (nineteen years ago) link
― cºzen (Cozen), Friday, 13 August 2004 18:46 (nineteen years ago) link
― g--ff (gcannon), Friday, 13 August 2004 19:01 (nineteen years ago) link
― amateur!!!st, Friday, 13 August 2004 19:01 (nineteen years ago) link
http://sportsmed.starwave.com/i/magazine/new/risky_business.jpg
― erik, Saturday, 14 August 2004 05:26 (nineteen years ago) link
― anthony, Saturday, 14 August 2004 08:20 (nineteen years ago) link
I very strongly agree with all the people who have criticized the Cruiser, on this thread, articulating their disquiet at him. I am not just backing a consensus or being ... knee-jerk - no, I find the actual comments on the thread incredibly accurate, insightful; they describe the way I feel about the Cruiser but have never been able to name so well.
I like RJG's post: about the colons.
All the stuff about the Cruiser, in interviews, laughing, and smiling uneasily, and being unable to answer - is hilarious!
― the cruisefox, Saturday, 14 August 2004 08:36 (nineteen years ago) link
Some people would say that this makes it queer, or gay, or homosocial, which is, OK, a different thing. It may be homosocial, but it's definitely not queer. It is annoying, to me, the way that peoplem, in general, think that straight men are queer when, in films, they hang about together. This distracts from the real problem of rampant heterosexuality, which (rather than homosexuality) is what submerges and demotes Kidman in this film, or other women in similar films.
I am pleased with that last thought - it is the best expression of a somewhat interesting idea that I have managed for a while, in my seemingly intellectually declining years.
― the bellefox, Saturday, 14 August 2004 08:40 (nineteen years ago) link
― cºzen (Cozen), Saturday, 14 August 2004 08:44 (nineteen years ago) link
i think that conflating homosocial and homosexual can be dangerous, and i think that we need to pay attention when those things converge...i dont know about days of thunder (which is an artifical refinement of the themes of top gun), but i did say "i think" about top gun, which means that i am unsure, that my own desires and complications may get in the way
― anthony, Saturday, 14 August 2004 08:45 (nineteen years ago) link
― the bellefox, Saturday, 14 August 2004 08:47 (nineteen years ago) link
― s1ocki (slutsky), Saturday, 14 August 2004 14:46 (nineteen years ago) link
― s1ocki (slutsky), Saturday, 14 August 2004 14:47 (nineteen years ago) link
duh s1ocki i just woke up i can't answer these heavy questions
― amateur!!!st (amateurist), Saturday, 14 August 2004 14:49 (nineteen years ago) link
― jed_ (jed), Saturday, 14 August 2004 20:05 (nineteen years ago) link
― br-u-no, Saturday, 14 August 2004 23:44 (nineteen years ago) link
― br-u-no, Saturday, 14 August 2004 23:45 (nineteen years ago) link
― kyle (akmonday), Sunday, 15 August 2004 01:24 (nineteen years ago) link
excellent
― gabbneb (gabbneb), Sunday, 15 August 2004 01:43 (nineteen years ago) link
I can kind of understand this post but am somewhat horrified at the same time.
Yes. Bogey many times just played Bogey (def. not always) but there was a presence there that outweighed these issues. I mean Jack Nicholson (who I many problems with btw) is not the title on this thread for a reason, no? Tho he has for the last - what, 25 years? - been playing the same character, his charisma/JackNicholsonness allows him for many to get away with it.
Tom Cruise's appalling absensce of such presence but simultaneous ability to get away with playing that absence is what I think distresses many.
― H (Heruy), Sunday, 15 August 2004 01:48 (nineteen years ago) link
― cºzen (Cozen), Sunday, 15 August 2004 08:35 (nineteen years ago) link
― s1ocki (slutsky), Sunday, 15 August 2004 13:54 (nineteen years ago) link
― cºzen (Cozen), Sunday, 15 August 2004 21:01 (nineteen years ago) link
― RJG (RJG), Monday, 16 August 2004 02:09 (nineteen years ago) link
also laughed a bit too much a Billy Connelly's slightly gay jokes.
― jed_ (jed), Saturday, 4 September 2004 20:34 (nineteen years ago) link
― firstworldman (firstworldman), Saturday, 4 September 2004 23:58 (nineteen years ago) link
― Tom Cruise, Friday, 22 October 2004 16:50 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 22 October 2004 16:51 (nineteen years ago) link
― still bevens (bscrubbins), Friday, 22 October 2004 16:53 (nineteen years ago) link
― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Monday, 13 June 2005 17:20 (eighteen years ago) link
― Leon C. (Ex Leon), Monday, 13 June 2005 17:25 (eighteen years ago) link