(SPOILER ALERT: I do still hate the songs on this I hated before)
― castanuts (DJP), Thursday, 4 August 2022 19:37 (one year ago) link
"Return" is my favourite of the forced pop songs but I think that's entirely down to the rinkydinky keyboards in the chorus. Without those there is no song (or rather there is "Round & Round & Round")
― you can see me from westbury white horse, Thursday, 4 August 2022 19:49 (one year ago) link
I think the entirety of Return is an affront to the concept of music
― castanuts (DJP), Thursday, 4 August 2022 19:51 (one year ago) link
I take Return over RoundX3 and Strange Attraction any day. The nice little guitar riff under all the fake horns redeems it somewhat
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Thursday, 4 August 2022 19:55 (one year ago) link
djp otm "return" is astonishing bullshit by any measuring stick
― γππ π π € π ‘ π π π彑 (Austin), Thursday, 4 August 2022 20:46 (one year ago) link
i like every song on wms except βclub americaβ which is maybe the closest thing to an objective misfire iβve ever heard and itβs track two
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Thursday, 4 August 2022 20:57 (one year ago) link
ste says it's perfect popβ γππ π π € π ‘ π π π彑 (Austin), Tuesday, August 2, 2022 8:26 PM (two days ago) bookmarkflaglinkprobably wrote it years agoβ Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, August 2, 2022 8:27 PM (two days ago) bookmarkflaglink
β γππ π π € π ‘ π π π彑 (Austin), Tuesday, August 2, 2022 8:26 PM (two days ago) bookmarkflaglink
probably wrote it years ago
β Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, August 2, 2022 8:27 PM (two days ago) bookmarkflaglink
Pretty sure that's his original review from '96, as I believe it appears verbatim in the '97 AMG book.
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 4 August 2022 21:18 (one year ago) link
Mystified why AMG has never bumped Wish from a 2.5 to something even slightly higher. The next three are all 3s.
― you can see me from westbury white horse, Thursday, 4 August 2022 21:32 (one year ago) link
just quietly, it's because it sucks
― assert (matttkkkk), Thursday, 4 August 2022 22:08 (one year ago) link
Wish deluxe pushed to November 25th
― Jaime Pressly and America (f. hazel), Wednesday, 10 August 2022 13:37 (one year ago) link
lol
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 10 August 2022 13:44 (one year ago) link
It's a Christmas wish, you see.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 10 August 2022 13:51 (one year ago) link
Thanksgiving's gonna be dark this year
― Jaime Pressly and America (f. hazel), Wednesday, 10 August 2022 13:55 (one year ago) link
Perhaps by Bloodflowers RS was just influenced by all the new recently-dropped former major label bands' albums who'd lost access to skilled design companies
― PaulTMA, Wednesday, 10 August 2022 16:00 (one year ago) link
It looks as though they'd intended the album to be - in true 2000 style - an online-only release.
― you can see me from westbury white horse, Thursday, 11 August 2022 01:39 (one year ago) link
yeah, that's otm
― Vance Vance Devolution (sic), Thursday, 11 August 2022 06:48 (one year ago) link
https://open.spotify.com/album/4W7kDAiCJ3euyQPo0RU64g?si=uax8zk-VS9GvVYKt4fy8KQ
^^"cut" and "uyea sound" demos on spotify
― γππ π π € π ‘ π π π彑 (Austin), Monday, 29 August 2022 19:42 (one year ago) link
really? nobody has anything to say?
an official release of "uyea sound" guys! IT'S HAPPENING!
― γππ π π € π ‘ π π π彑 (Austin), Saturday, 10 September 2022 14:25 (one year ago) link
Well yeah but we all have it already
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 10 September 2022 15:19 (one year ago) link
Wish is getting the picture-disc treatment for the Record Store Day Thanksgiving-Interruption.
https://recordstoreday.com/SpecialRelease/15634
30th anniversary limited edition of The Cureβs hit best-selling, Grammy-nominated album Wish, pressed on double picture disc for the first time, exclusively for RSD Black Friday. Featuring the hit singles βHighβ, βFriday Iβm In Loveβ and βA Letter To Eliseβ. This double picture disc edition features newly remastered audio by Robert Smith and Miles Showell at Abbey Road Studios.
― peace, man, Wednesday, 14 September 2022 18:57 (one year ago) link
Picture disc is the best format for the quality of RSβ recent remasters.
― Vance Vance Devolution (sic), Wednesday, 14 September 2022 19:11 (one year ago) link
'A Letter To Elise' is the latest Cure video to be remastered, watch the full HD version now at https://t.co/J48FyjKS5p and pre-order your 30th anniversary copy of 'Wish' at https://t.co/AfZQwQKZBW #wish30 pic.twitter.com/TjYRR0gyMy— The Cure (@thecure) September 16, 2022
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 16 September 2022 14:58 (one year ago) link
"wendy time" demo >>>>>>>>>>
― γππ π π € π ‘ π π π彑 (Austin), Friday, 25 November 2022 15:49 (one year ago) link
"t6" was not expected
― γππ π π € π ‘ π π π彑 (Austin), Friday, 25 November 2022 16:16 (one year ago) link
"abetabw" O_O
― γππ π π € π ‘ π π π彑 (Austin), Friday, 25 November 2022 16:32 (one year ago) link
shame how they kept the slinky subfunk grooves alive post-kiss me but always ended up shelving them. "frogfish" reminds of some of the equally hilarious wahwah'd outtakes from the disintegration extras. they practically had an unreleased ep of "wendy time"s and "hot hot hot"s by the time rs fully embraced it; and there was had "the 13th" and the world was finally a better place.π
but seriously, this has fully exceeded expectations. the best of the unheard stuff is on par with the best of the series. extended mixes are old mixtape fodder and play like "classic rock" to me, but ymmv. otherwise, if you like this album and want to get lost in it a little bit, this paints a much finer picture of the band at the time and i understand feeling compelled to make it a double album. yay.
― γππ π π € π ‘ π π π彑 (Austin), Friday, 25 November 2022 17:16 (one year ago) link
I just bought this, I don't buy CDs anymore but keeping my Cure collection up to date.
― Bee OK, Friday, 25 November 2022 20:17 (one year ago) link
i didnβt get much out of the demos/out-takes - could definitely see why the latter didnβt progress
however! for ages Iβve bought into the fan semi-othodoxy that there was a better Wish to be had, if some of the b-sides had been elevated to the LP
listening to the scraps i can sort of understand that an LP with play/big hand/twilight garden/halo would have been much more firmly in the Disintegration mode - ie the record i wanted at the time - and that Smithβs decision to go for a kaleidoscopic guitar album was probably his last good bit of instinctual pop relevance decision-making?
― meat and two vdgg (emsworth), Saturday, 26 November 2022 02:56 (one year ago) link
ie i think it was a very good judgement at the time
― meat and two vdgg (emsworth), Saturday, 26 November 2022 03:14 (one year ago) link
So, I am a bigger Cure fan than most, though maybe not as much of some of you. Is it controversial to think this album ("Wish") is not just great and a perfect follow-up to "Disintegration," but one of the best guitar albums of the '90s as well?
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 26 November 2022 22:59 (one year ago) link
No. It's also their best classic lineup album.
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 26 November 2022 23:01 (one year ago) link
To Wish Impossible Things really is incredible. Possibly the saddest Cure song.
― piscesx, Saturday, 26 November 2022 23:15 (one year ago) link
On the same album as "Apart"!
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 26 November 2022 23:16 (one year ago) link
I don't understand people who dislike this album but they exist.
― akm, Sunday, 27 November 2022 00:01 (one year ago) link
akm OTM
― castanuts (DJP), Sunday, 27 November 2022 14:03 (one year ago) link
β akm, Saturday, November 26, 2022
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 27 November 2022 14:07 (one year ago) link
Listened to the whole thing last night, I really enjoy the outtakes and demos on this one and can see myself listening to them more than once, which hasn't really been the case with previous deluxe sets they've put out. it helps that the demos are really studio demos and really fleshed out.
― akm, Sunday, 27 November 2022 16:47 (one year ago) link
as for the remaster itself: it was via apple music/iphone/earbuds so hard to tell definitively but IMO I didn't actually notice much of a difference in the mastering here vs the original release. I'm sure someone will complain about it.
― akm, Sunday, 27 November 2022 16:48 (one year ago) link
haha, steve hoffman forums delivers:
"Yep! I just DL'ed the Amazon Music HD streaming file for the new remaster (why is it only 16/44.1kHz?!) and A/B'ed it versus the original U.S. Elektra/Fiction CD and you're right, they definitely bumped up the high-mids & lowered some mid-bass, for clarity's sake. So it's good in one regard, that it overall sounds a bit clearer, BUT that high-mid bump gets a little grating on the ears at times, compared to the old CD. I could imagine the '22 as being a bit more fatiguing in the long haul, as a result. I also miss some of the mid-bass of the original, as even though that area can tend to muddy up a master a bit, it also carries the "weight" of the vocals (not to mention other instruments,) so the remaster lacks some thickness and realism in vocals that the original has. ALSO the remaster has extra limiting applied compared to the original, by up to 4 dB in a certain spot or two (but usually only 1 or 2 dB for the most part.) Not offensively so, since it's only catching some transients here & there, and limiter's set with such fast attack/release it's not audible, so the master isn't brickwalled by any means or even sounding "louder" dynamically as a result, just perceived a little "louder" at times cuz of that high-mid boost.Another thing of note: the vocals on the original has some sibilance here & there, but the remaster seems to have quashed that a good amount, so they must've used a de-esser on the master, maybe even to also try & combat the overall more-strident high-mid presence on the new one.
So anywho, you're right it's certainly no revelation in EQ, although some people may prefer it to the original, depending on their playback system. And even though it's not much audible, it's technically/measurably less dynamic, so that's a strike against it. BUT again, the only very hearable difference worth noting is that the new one sounds a bit clearer/brighter than the original, so you're listening system will likely dictate which one you prefer...
I'm assuming the new vinyl was cut from that same new digital master? I have an original '92 Greek pressing of this album, but it sounds very alike the original CD, just a touch "darker" so it's more crankable, to me."
― akm, Sunday, 27 November 2022 17:03 (one year ago) link
TLDR: it sounds fine
more crankable, got it
― γππ π π € π ‘ π π π彑 (Austin), Sunday, 27 November 2022 17:22 (one year ago) link
My regret is not having remastered versions of those b-sides, but I guess the 2004 box set took care of'em.
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 27 November 2022 17:24 (one year ago) link
you want catalogue continuity??!! with thisl band?!
― γππ π π € π ‘ π π π彑 (Austin), Sunday, 27 November 2022 17:35 (one year ago) link
i do kind of hate that all the bsides are on that box set and not with the albums but what can you do. digital stuff has made this somewhat irrelevant now
― akm, Sunday, 27 November 2022 17:45 (one year ago) link
yeah
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 27 November 2022 17:47 (one year ago) link
Because of the Wish reissue, a complete version of the well-known XFM radio live performance from Kilburn '92 has popped up, it's the best-quality copy I've heard and a great listen. So if anyone wants it.
https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fo/nzs2l6byftmayxktywej7/h?dl=0&rlkey=be5890ocywveuo1iw4u6gtlno
― MaresNest, Monday, 28 November 2022 11:44 (one year ago) link
oooh, thanks for the upgrade
― StanM, Monday, 28 November 2022 12:30 (one year ago) link
^ some background on the venue and what happened after it closed (john fashanu! religion! indecent assault!) : http://kilburnwesthampstead.blogspot.com/2016/01/kilburn-national-club.html
― StanM, Monday, 28 November 2022 12:38 (one year ago) link
While we are sharing stuff, here is a link to an AI digitally upscaled copy of the otherwise OOP "Show" film:
https://www. mediafire .com/file/zdm6goof107ji1d/The_Cure_-_Show_%25281992%2529.zip/file
(Obviously delete the spaces around "mediafire")
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 28 November 2022 14:14 (one year ago) link