is there a name or a phrase for or anything much written about that distinctly British CREEPY VIBE prevalent in TV shows and movies of the '60s/'70s? (e.g. The Prisoner, Sapphire and Steel, Baker-era

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The Nightmare Man is v good tho i recall being slightly underwhelmed. Got it on dvd somewhere, years since i watched it. Will dig it out and have another watch.

Fizzles, Tuesday, 21 March 2023 21:31 (one year ago) link

otm about the seriousness of it all. that isn’t a mode or tone you get so much These Days.

Fizzles, Tuesday, 21 March 2023 21:32 (one year ago) link

And! While I'm hyperactive I remember that Whoops Apocalypse - the TV show - was utterly unfunny but had a grim, almost joyless air to it. And given the casual racism and toplessness it now feels like an artefact from an alien planet:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mwWhWtvJAw

Off the top of my head the ending was played completely straight as well, with Barry Morse - again - doing some acting. There was a film but it was basically slapstick.

Ashley Pomeroy, Tuesday, 21 March 2023 21:32 (one year ago) link

second series of space 1999 was rejigged for an American audience - swapping out grumpy Barry Morse for the shape-shifting woman, slightly lighter, more romance.

first season is better imo

koogs, Tuesday, 21 March 2023 22:08 (one year ago) link

(did they ever explain where Barry Morse went?)

koogs, Tuesday, 21 March 2023 22:09 (one year ago) link

Back to Canada I assume.

Maggot Bairn (Tom D.), Tuesday, 21 March 2023 22:30 (one year ago) link

So his first show was UFO, which was a weird mixture of dayglow wigs and downbeat plots where the heroes always lost. And the Space: 1999, which had some awesome spaceships but every episode consisted of Martin Landau looking worried and Barry Morse looking worried and at the end of Landau would look at the camera and say "there's no hope for any of us, or for the people watching at home, because it's 1975 and there's just no hope, no hope at all".

Ok, I've never had any desire to watch this before but now I'm sold!

Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 22 March 2023 11:20 (one year ago) link

Barbara Bain looks worried too.

Maggot Bairn (Tom D.), Wednesday, 22 March 2023 11:43 (one year ago) link

'Black Sun' is my Space 1999 Series One go-to, absolutely batshit and bleak, until this brilliant 2001-style third act.

MaresNest, Wednesday, 22 March 2023 11:45 (one year ago) link

Really nice spooky feel to several season 1 eps in Space: 1999; there's the episode where Big Jim Sullivan is playing a coral sitar recital for the team, and that music underpins the rest of the show. Lots of ultra-wide angles, shadows and voids, and age-inappropriate scares. In season 2, the ambient lighting and colour palette get brighter, Maya solves everything by turning into an insect or whatever, and they all have a good laugh in the epilogue at Tony Anholt's homebrew. Not good!

xp

Michael Jones, Wednesday, 22 March 2023 11:50 (one year ago) link

I'd have sold a kidney to own this. pic.twitter.com/NxmJUHQKWh

— Scarred for Life (@ScarredForLife2) March 20, 2023

koogs, Wednesday, 22 March 2023 13:46 (one year ago) link

^ all three of them looking worried

koogs, Wednesday, 22 March 2023 13:51 (one year ago) link

lol yes I love how despite all the attempts at HEY KIDS TOYS advertising that clip still feels bleak a f

Daniel_Rf, Friday, 24 March 2023 12:24 (one year ago) link

Space 1999 is a good call, I can't think of too many contemporaneous U.S. shows that had something of that sinister vibe but that one did.

I watched the movie The Wonder (currently on Netflix) the other night on a giant TV with motion smoothing turned on, and the digital made it look very much like a low budget 70s or 80s BBC production. I thought it really added something, so if you're thinking about watching the movie, I recommend seeing it that way if possible.

but also fuck you (unperson), Saturday, 25 March 2023 20:46 (one year ago) link

Any good cultural studies type writing on the British archetype of the guy who knows more than everyone else and is a total asshole about it? Sherlock Holmes, old school Who, Saphire & Steel...

Daniel_Rf, Saturday, 25 March 2023 21:32 (one year ago) link

Henry Higgins …

three months pass...

finally trudging through The Omega Factor after being unimpressed with the first couple of eps when i first bought the DVDs years ago - it is pretty thin gruel, really terrible writing and blah characters - Louise Jameson's presence and outfits probably the high point - there SHOULD be an excellent show here, secret govt department investigating paranormal goings-on in 1979 ought to be a fuckin cracker but it just doesn't work, what a shame

meat and two vdgg (emsworth), Wednesday, 5 July 2023 01:40 (nine months ago) link

seven months pass...

Jonathan Miller's Alice in Wonderland? was on bbc4 yesterday

koogs, Thursday, 8 February 2024 21:22 (two months ago) link

I love this! I always associate in my mind with Spike Milligan's The Bed Sitting Room (I think Peter Cook is the only person who's in both?)

soref, Thursday, 8 February 2024 21:26 (two months ago) link

it's reminding me of Valerie and her Week of Wonders a bit

koogs, Thursday, 8 February 2024 21:26 (two months ago) link

the Ravi Shankar soundtrack reminded me of this thing in some of Milligan's work where he was raised in India, and there was this idea of India as this exotic, foreign place with strange customs, and the UK as being 'home' and normality, but ofc from his point of view it was India that was home and the UK that was was the strange exotic place - this perspective of the UK as a weird alien civilisation with odd customs

soref, Thursday, 8 February 2024 21:35 (two months ago) link

two months pass...

I've known about the 'Dodleston Mysteries' of the early/mid 80s for a while, having come across a few mentions of a book about the events, but here is a very deep dive on YT that goes into a great deal of detail.

Very entertaining and well worth checking out, if an extremely English poltergeist story colliding with time-travelling, numinous beings from the past and future (and here is the best part) all communicating via a borrowed school BBC Micro sounds like your kind of thing.

It could have easily been a late John Wyndham novel.

And if it is a hoax, then it's a rather brilliant, complex and very creepy one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRh28A54HF4

Maresn3st, Sunday, 28 April 2024 10:12 (six hours ago) link

I saw something about this a couple of years ago but I can't remember where - I don't think it was a six hour youtube series though.Time travelling poltergeist or hoax... hmm tough one. (Not to diminish the weirdness of the story!)

ledge, Sunday, 28 April 2024 15:14 (one hour ago) link


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