quiddities and agonies of the ruling class - a rolling new york times thread

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The Cronkite episode suggests that a newsroom geared toward deadlines needs to find a much better way to deal with articles written with no certain publication date.

I promise you that in ANY kind of publishing, if something doesn't have to get done RIGHT NOW, no one will look at it until it does. This is just business as usual.

NYT fail right guys

I hate to be that guy, but not knowing these two dates off the top of one's head kinda boggles my mind.

wait wait hold up now: not talking about Stanley here, but ... you two really have those exact dates as part of your store of instant top-of-head knowledge? really honestly? like to the point where you're surprised other people don't? I mean, not to hurt your mind or anything, but I totally don't. I'm pretty sure like 99.9% of people wouldn't have instant recall on those.

well maybe not 99.9%

can i admit something

the one way i remember the day MLK was shot?

Nope. Wouldn't know those dates if they came with an identifying tag on their collars.

(or the way i used to remember)

is via that song by that Irish band

they might if they recall the lyrics to "pride (in the name of love)" still, basic point taken.

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the Neil Armstrong is just there--i'm not aware of a U2 song about him

Man why didn't U2 make a song about all the important events & their dates, 1967-199?

I mean, I can be pretty catty about having to make reprint cx to a book in which someone MISTAKENLY CORRECTED Michel Legrand's name to "Michael" and now I have to fix it, when I could have proof-read the goddamn thing for them in the first place. But dates...apart from 1492 and 9/11? No.

NEVER FORGET

Man why didn't U2 make a song about all the important events & their dates, 1967-199?

"we didn't start the unforgettable fire"?!?

but laurel, can you a copy a date from one place to another and not fuck it up??

ppl who make mistakes should be shot imo

i don't really think it's necessary to have all these historic dates archived in yr brane but at least know a reliable place to look them up & know how to copy & paste them into your word processing computer machine???

i bet whoever did it can't even tie their own shoes

making these shoes the NYT footwear of choice:

http://img.hottopic.com/is/image/HotTopic/372413_hi

no laces!

That gives me a much different vision of their editorial meetings.

They play a lot of Razed in Black and forget important dates together.

yeah, that's the confusing part: I don't know how you check a date and then copy it wrong. dates are pretty short.

british to american date formatting confusion? maybe?

On 11/9/2001 absolutely nothing of importance happened

Maybe I just have a mind for dates and other numbers. (I also have nearly all of my credit card and bank account numbers memorized.) Plus, July 20 -- the moon landing date -- is also my wedding anniversary.

did anyone finish that michael pollan article on julia child and how no one cooks anymore? zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Dude's kind of one note, isn't he.

The New Antiquarian abodes look like my brother's house, except his is all comic book shit and Nightmare Before Christmas memorabilia.

yeah, unfortunately, since i feel he's right abt a lot of food issues but he always ends up preaching the same homily over & over

would still prefer to see pollan movie adaptation than that julia child blogger thing no matter how awesome meryl streep's impression is.

unless she dry-humps philip seymour hoffman as capote or something spectacular like that happens

her and ed harris' pollock go on a crime spree

there is a commercial for that film that makes me worry they have tried to make Julia Child into the kind of plucky know-nothing heroine who goes "whee" and claps for herself after successfully making a dish in cooking school. I hope I've just misinterpreted it or seen something out of context, because my sense is that Julia Child was sort of a badass?

i read somewhere over the weekend that she uses a machine gun to make coq au vin at some point in the movie--i'll try to find it

she was a college baller and tried to join the Navy

smart, well-educated, sophisticated, tall, and according to Wikipedia helped develop a shark repellent to keep sharks from setting off mines

i think thats from the early part of her life, when she first moved to france and fell in love with food but didnt really know what she was doing

i dont know if the "whee" part is true-to-life

it seems wrong to give someone space in the back of the times magazine to talk about his important experience, as a presumably non-autistic grown man, of how not to get along with neighbors.

haha thats how that thing always seems to work ~ like the one before this one was a dude thats like 50 coming to the groundbreaking realization that while its foolish and limiting to be overcautious lyfe is still dangerous and bad things can happen, even if they usually dont. also that he doesnt no how to work his kids car seat

Wasnt she a spy?

she comes across as totally confident and awesome and someone i'd wish i'd known in this movie

honestly it's like two seconds of a TV commercial, what do I know, but it seemed to be going for empathy between the modern light-film viewer and Julia Child in that kind of romantic-comedy way that often makes women relatably inept -- which is fine, male and female characters both get the "relatably inept" thing, but Julia Child going "whee I cooked something" and clapping (possibly while surrounded by dismissive-looking male students) seemed a tad much.

yay, s1ocki, glad to know it's just the ad!

tell you what, when i cook a Beef Bourguignon the first time, i'm clapping and saying whee, too. and i'm a badass.

In her haste, she said, she looked up the dates for two big stories that Cronkite covered — the assassination of Martin Luther King and the moment Neil Armstrong set foot on the moon — and copied them incorrectly.

I hate to be that guy, but not knowing these two dates off the top of one's head kinda boggles my mind.

― I am moving on baby, I am moving on (Pancakes Hackman), Monday, August 3, 2009 11:02 AM

It's good that you're rainman and all but you need a bit of a reality check on this.

i think those dates are supposed to be seared into old people memory, like 9/11/2001 or 11/12/1955.

When a "great" newspaper hemorrhages money, pity the poor editorial skeleton crew.

On the "Ralph Kramden":

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/13/fashion/13POTBELLY.html?_r=1&ref=fashion

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