Should Marijuana be legalised?

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I once had to eat a j that a friend had pre-rolled for me. I know he added some additional ingredients to the flower. Definitely kief. Possibly hash as well? Anyway, two hours later I was deeply, deeply stoned.

peace, man, Friday, 12 May 2023 12:30 (eleven months ago) link

eight months pass...

just wanna point out how stupid the situation is here in Wisconsin, where we are now entirely bordered by legal states. I have overheard the conversation of Illinois (which is taxed out the wazoo) vs. Michigan (which is further away but dirt cheap) so many times. and the convo always turns to "man just think of how much we're losing in tax dollars from this". it's so idiotic. to make it even more ridiculous we have farm bill weed which is essentially hemp with some sort of THC spray (or HHC, or Delta 8, or THCo, or whatever the fuck they're doing now), the stuff works but you don't wanna bother with it if you can get the real thing.

however I do think the edibles are legit, the only law is they have to be less than 0.3% THC. but I think most edibles you get in legal states are probably even lower than 0.3% so all it does is make edibles legal but unregulated. now this is a problem because I think a lot of these places fudge the actual amount of THC you get. something that's listed as 15mg is probably more like 7mg, which to me is a good dose. unfortunately once you find something you like it gets pulled and replaced and you have to figure out the dosage again. which is surprisingly difficult!! anyway fun adventures in legal weed the other day when I found one product I liked was available at some liquor store, but when I opened it up the gummies looked to be about 50% bigger, which I assume meant they tinkered with the formula. but no - I think what happened is "15mg" actually means "15mg", and so I was so fuckin zooted. twas a good time (eventually) but yeah I don't know why we can't just get the real thing!

frogbs, Wednesday, 24 January 2024 19:24 (three months ago) link

one month passes...

The German cannabis law passed the Bundesrat today. It‘s legal to smoke pot in Germany starting April 1st… no, seriously.

zwobotka, Friday, 22 March 2024 13:50 (one month ago) link

just wanna point out how stupid the situation is here in Wisconsin, where we are now entirely bordered by legal states
I assure you, you are not

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Friday, 22 March 2024 13:52 (one month ago) link

Man, yeah, the price difference between buying in Illinois versus Michigan is absolutely nuts. I was shocked the last time we were in Michigan and walked out with probably 5x what we'd get in Illinois for the same cost.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 22 March 2024 13:54 (one month ago) link

one month passes...

shit's about to get wild

Breaking:

WASHINGTON (AP) — US drug control agency is moving to reclassify marijuana as a less dangerous drug in a historic shift, AP sources say.

— Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) April 30, 2024

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Tuesday, 30 April 2024 17:35 (five days ago) link

About fucking time they took it off Schedule 1.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 30 April 2024 17:37 (five days ago) link

wow

I painted my teeth (sleeve), Tuesday, 30 April 2024 17:39 (five days ago) link

man if there's a Weedonald's on every corner

ain't nothin but a brie thing, baby (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 30 April 2024 17:39 (five days ago) link

some info I just found on what that means, legally:

Legal Consequences If Marijuana Moved to Schedule III

Moving marijuana from Schedule I to Schedule III, without other legal changes, would not bring the state-legal medical or recreational marijuana industry into compliance with federal controlled substances law. With respect to medical marijuana, a key difference between placement in Schedule I and Schedule III is that substances in Schedule III have an accepted medical use and may lawfully be dispensed by
prescription, while Substances in Schedule I cannot. However, prescription drugs must be approved by the Food and Drug Administration (FDA). Although FDA has approved some drugs derived from or related to cannabis, marijuana itself is not an FDA-approved drug. Moreover, if one or more marijuana products obtained FDA approval, manufacturers and distributors would need to register with DEA and comply with regulatory requirements that apply to Schedule III substances in order to handle those products. Users of medical marijuana would need to obtain valid prescriptions for the substance from medical providers, subject to federal legal requirements that differ from existing state regulatory
requirements for medical marijuana.

Rescheduling marijuana would not affect the medical marijuana appropriations rider. Thus, so long as the current rider remains in effect, participants in the state-legal medical marijuana industry who comply with state law would be shielded from federal prosecution. If the rider were to lapse or be repealed, these persons would again be subject to prosecution at the discretion of DOJ.

With respect to the manufacture, distribution, and possession of recreational marijuana, if marijuana were moved to Schedule III, such activities would remain illegal under federal law and potentially subject to federal prosecution regardless of their status under state law.
Some criminal penalties for CSA violations depend on the schedule in which a substance is classified. If marijuana were moved to Schedule III, applicable penalties for some offenses would be reduced.

However, CSA penalties that apply to activities involving marijuana specifically, such as the quantity based mandatory minimum sentences discussed above, would not change as a result of rescheduling. DEA is not required to set annual production quotas for Schedule III controlled substances.

The prohibition on business deductions in Section 280E of the Internal Revenue Code applies to any trade or business that “consists of trafficking in controlled substances (within the meaning of schedule I and II of the Controlled Substances Act) which is prohibited by Federal law or the law of any State in which such trade or business is conducted.” Because the provision applies only to activities involving substances
in Schedule I or II, moving marijuana from Schedule I to Schedule III would allow marijuana businesses to deduct business expenses on federal tax filings. Other collateral legal consequences would continue to attach to unauthorized marijuana-related activities.

ain't nothin but a brie thing, baby (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 30 April 2024 17:45 (five days ago) link

Hooray for rescheduling — it’s a step!

Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Tuesday, 30 April 2024 18:02 (five days ago) link

legalization seems like pretty low hanging fruit for a not-particularly-popular incumbent President in an election year but honestly idk what he can even do. this seems like a good step at least.

frogbs, Tuesday, 30 April 2024 18:11 (five days ago) link

xpost it's a step I thought was a pipedream for many years. glad to see sanity finally prevailing

ain't nothin but a brie thing, baby (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 30 April 2024 18:20 (five days ago) link

legalization seems like pretty low hanging fruit for a not-particularly-popular incumbent President in an election year but honestly idk what he can even do. this seems like a good step at least.

― frogbs, Tuesday, April 30, 2024 2:11 PM bookmarkflaglink

with our luck, Trump campaign will do his advertising for him.

"With Biden in office, weed is going to be freely available"

Biden's response:

"Hell yeah it is!"

ain't nothin but a brie thing, baby (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 30 April 2024 18:21 (five days ago) link

Legalization would require congressional approval, yes? Good luck with that right now

octobeard, Tuesday, 30 April 2024 18:47 (five days ago) link

still might help to get their votes on the record

frogbs, Tuesday, 30 April 2024 18:49 (five days ago) link

get their votes on the record

Good thought, but not gonna happen. In the Senate legalization would be subject to filibuster and never make it to a vote. If the Ds held the House majority they could bring legalization out of committee to the floor for a recorded vote, but the R majority's not going to cooperate on that.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 30 April 2024 18:55 (five days ago) link

It doesn't need to get to a vote. The President and prominent Democrats making it an issue would be an energizing issue with a lot of younger (under 50 lol) voters.

papal hotwife (milo z), Tuesday, 30 April 2024 19:32 (five days ago) link

should be decriminalized NOT LEGALIZED

stwahberrymilkgirlll, Tuesday, 30 April 2024 19:36 (five days ago) link

why not

frogbs, Tuesday, 30 April 2024 19:44 (five days ago) link

I seriously doubt that legal weed would be such an electoral slam dunk for a candidate that everyone always hopes it will be. I mean, it’s the right thing to do, but I don’t think it’s moving the needle very much.

Jeff, Tuesday, 30 April 2024 19:47 (five days ago) link

I seriously doubt that legal weed would be such an electoral slam dunk for a candidate that everyone always hopes it will be.

Maybe it's a dumb stereotype, but "really into weed" and "likely voter" seem close to mutually exclusive.

Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Tuesday, 30 April 2024 19:57 (five days ago) link

Weed is all over the place now as well: from the lowly doobie of mexican weed, to highly concentrated 'dab' and shit like that

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 30 April 2024 19:59 (five days ago) link

I don’t think it’s moving the needle very much

perhaps not but as unperson says it's one of those issues that might motivate some folks to vote who otherwise would say "who cares, it's all a scam anyway, man...". plus it would force the GOP to argue against something broadly popular. but yeah maybe the ship has sailed I mean I don't live in a legal state and yet it seems to be everywhere these days. that farm bill which passed seems to introduce so many technicalities, like oh here's something that's not at all like weed until you heat it up, in which case it's basically the same...I mean where we're at now just makes no sense. like you can "only" have .3% THC in edibles here but even in legal states you don't often get more than that.

frogbs, Tuesday, 30 April 2024 20:08 (five days ago) link

i am not going to try to predict the effect this is going to have on voters -- overall rescheduling it from S1 is a logical and useful shift and I am here for it.

Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Tuesday, 30 April 2024 20:11 (five days ago) link

Maybe it's a dumb stereotype, but "really into weed" and "likely voter" seem close to mutually exclusive.

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papal hotwife (milo z), Tuesday, 30 April 2024 20:12 (five days ago) link

xpost otm, regardless of its effect it needed to happen

ain't nothin but a brie thing, baby (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 30 April 2024 20:12 (five days ago) link

something that I think has been overlooked itt so far is that this will enable research on a much greater scale

I painted my teeth (sleeve), Tuesday, 30 April 2024 20:13 (five days ago) link

i.e. lab work, genetics, tests, etc

I painted my teeth (sleeve), Tuesday, 30 April 2024 20:14 (five days ago) link

cancer treatment, etc etc etc

I painted my teeth (sleeve), Tuesday, 30 April 2024 20:14 (five days ago) link

yes!! and that will legitimize and destigmatize and that is good.

Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Tuesday, 30 April 2024 20:15 (five days ago) link

lmao my brain was going the opposite direction and I was thinking "yes, there will be more labs doing work on marijuana genetics and breeding"

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Tuesday, 30 April 2024 20:21 (five days ago) link

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Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 30 April 2024 20:28 (five days ago) link

dankest weed moonshot starts now

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Tuesday, 30 April 2024 20:37 (five days ago) link

happy 4/30 yall

frogbs, Tuesday, 30 April 2024 20:39 (five days ago) link

think the corporate weed move will be lowering THC content so that you can buy a pack of Marlboro joints that don't paralyze the average person (also that increase addictiveness somehow) plus all the exotic cannabinoids present naturally in small amounts that supposedly cause weight loss/etc..

papal hotwife (milo z), Tuesday, 30 April 2024 20:40 (five days ago) link

market segmentation, for sure

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Wednesday, 1 May 2024 18:23 (four days ago) link


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