Beer in the new era

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lol joygoat, that is a perfect story.

I'm pretty sure anchor steam was my first as well, though in a far less glamorous setting.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 13 July 2023 15:46 (nine months ago) link

That was actually the brewery there in SOMA. The landlord raised their rent which is kind of nuts as that area has been a ghost town since the pandemic. So Cellarmaker purchased The Rare Barrel's space in Berkeley and transferred brewery ops there (ultimately they will open a taproom there as well). The Oakland location in Jack London Square is opening soon (early August).

Thanks, I knew they had closed there, but didn't know the story. I really liked that location, super chill, good brewery vibes day and night. I was planning on going again when we are back in SF in December.

Shame about Rare Barrel. One of my friends was way into their stuff.

il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Thursday, 13 July 2023 15:59 (nine months ago) link

i don't think that cellarmaker is stopping rare barrel's sour program. you can get both there!

wmlynch, Friday, 14 July 2023 04:58 (nine months ago) link

That would be excellent.

il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Thursday, 20 July 2023 23:18 (nine months ago) link

Yeah, I wish them luck.. hopefully some silicon valley billionaire can cough up some capital to get them started

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 20 July 2023 23:25 (nine months ago) link

three weeks pass...

Toppling Goliath makes a good beer, but hey, fuck 'em. Same happened to Noon Whistle (a good suburban Chicago brewery I used to drink) not long back. They hosted some Republican asshole, then when they got pushback from fans pulled the "we're just a business making a living, hosting this guy is not necessarily an endorsement, free speech, both sides, we're neutral, open minds, blah blah." And the usual conservative assholes then respond to the response with "oh, so now who's the intolerant ones?" And so on.

Ultimately, it's just such an unforced error. Iowa might be a red state, but it's not overwhelmingly red, just run by the usual red bullies these days. Why alienate the other 40% or so?

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 10 August 2023 15:44 (eight months ago) link

What's interesting to me about that is that the one time I visited Decorah (on a road trip from Minneapolis-St Paul to Chicago), I felt it less red-state-y than the surrounding areas. But that is bad optics for TG, I could see some fall out among their distro outposts in urban areas.

citation needed (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 10 August 2023 15:48 (eight months ago) link

I'll be at the big beer fest in Madison this weekend (even though I'm not drinking), kinda hope they'll be a boycott of their booth. I'm sure most people will be unaware though.

Random Restaurateur (Jordan), Thursday, 10 August 2023 15:51 (eight months ago) link

lol I just talked to someone from Decorah on the phone at work

out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Thursday, 10 August 2023 15:54 (eight months ago) link

xpost You should try and visit New Glarus, just 30 minutes away. It's a nice self-guided tour, and you can get some good unique to brewery beer there.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 10 August 2023 16:52 (eight months ago) link

Yeah, deceptively flying vulnerable migrants all over the country pretty much demands a disinvite

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 10 August 2023 16:57 (eight months ago) link

Lol Josh, I live in Madison and have def been to New Glarus a few times, thanks though. My band is playing at the fest. Looking forward to the Untitled Art N/A beers (best in the land).

Random Restaurateur (Jordan), Thursday, 10 August 2023 18:29 (eight months ago) link

Those Untitled Art ones are even ending up around Portland.

underwater as a compliment (Eazy), Thursday, 10 August 2023 19:24 (eight months ago) link

xpost I had no idea! My daughter goes to school there. We're moving her back in next weekend, otherwise this fest would have been fun.

Untitled Art is great. If you haven't had it, I recommend Roaring Table (out of Lake Zurich) and Hop Butcher (especially of you like NEIPAs and DIPAs).

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 10 August 2023 19:33 (eight months ago) link

It appears... (based on some financial filings that were screenshotted to me in a slack group)... that Anchor will be back as a co-op sometime soon.

citation needed (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 17 August 2023 04:18 (eight months ago) link

I paused thinking, Wait, were the new-ish house beers at Hopleaf Untitled Art? But no, they were from Art History, and I really liked both of those a few weeks ago.

underwater as a compliment (Eazy), Thursday, 17 August 2023 04:32 (eight months ago) link

I love Art History, another one nailing lagers and the like. They put out a really good ... Czech dark lager?

The other day I had a Grodziskie beer, and oof, not my thing. By design, really light, bubbly and low-alcohol, which are all fine, but also smokey, which made it taste like drinking a kielbasa. I assume all smokey beers are kind of controversial, but this one was especially not my jam.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 17 August 2023 12:02 (eight months ago) link

Speaking of Czech lagers, this is probably more "Beer in the Old Era", but to an American traveling within Prague, these variations on beer culture were quite a shock.

During my first night at a Vinohrady burger joint, I noticed servers distributing glasses of a local Pilsner-style lager called Unětický Pivovar 12° that were 2/3 foam, and one glass that was all foam. I asked my server about this, and they pointed me to a diagram of 3 types of beer pours. I eventually tried the 2 alternative pours, and damn, they are definitely worth investigation.

https://www.hopculture.com/the-proper-czech-pours-the-best-foam-youll-ever-drink/

Front-loaded albums are musical gerrymandering (Prefecture), Thursday, 17 August 2023 12:55 (eight months ago) link

three weeks pass...

Drinking a 2012 Bourbon County Stout. Tastes fine.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 13 September 2023 22:40 (seven months ago) link

two months pass...

Sounds like Metropolitan Brewing in Chicago is closing, too bad.

underminer of twenty years of excellent contribution to this borad (dan m), Monday, 13 November 2023 16:52 (five months ago) link

Despite being a huge fan of the modern era of beer (lots of local breweries, a sense of adventurousness in style), I really miss having good estery British ales like London Pride available. And it seems impossible to get a good flavourful beer that isn’t some variation on a sour/fruited/novelty-flavoured beer or of an IPA. The occasional porter pops up, but even they — and certainly all the stouts — are usually some kinda saguaro-limestone-toothpaste imperial bourbon breakfast cereal thing. Fuck, dudes, can ya just brew a solid ESB nowadays ffs?

The land of dreams and endless remorse (hardcore dilettante), Monday, 13 November 2023 17:23 (five months ago) link

Not sure where you're located but English milds are having a bit of a renaissance on the west coast urban centers. My local even has at least one or two on cask.

citation needed (Steve Shasta), Monday, 13 November 2023 20:00 (five months ago) link

I've had a couple of great ones lately. "Thatch Whistler" from Roaring Table 'round here is excellent. There are a handful of breweries specializing in lagers and the like, or at least all things not IPA or pastry stout or whatever.

Re: Metropolitan, feels like there's been a wave of closures lately. It's too bad, but maybe there's only so much room for so many breweries, especially since many of the ones closing (Metropolitan aside) I've never even heard of!

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 13 November 2023 20:22 (five months ago) link

Dying at saguaro-limestone-toothpaste imperial bourbon breakfast cereal thing... so true

My local brewery did a brown ale recently with no novelty ingredients, and named it Nobody Cares.

Large, Complex, Detailed but Irrefutable POST (Dan Peterson), Monday, 13 November 2023 20:35 (five months ago) link

Not sure where you're located but English milds are having a bit of a renaissance on the west coast urban centers. My local even has at least one or two on cask.

― citation needed (Steve Shasta), Monday, November 13, 2023 12:00 PM

MacCloud brewery in Van Nuys (Los Angeles) closed their second location recently, and announced that they will likely be gone entirely soon. They specialized in British style cask ales. I think they over-extended themselves, first with a restaurant location that never happened, then the one that did. The pandemic didn't help.

nickn, Monday, 13 November 2023 21:05 (five months ago) link

An English Dark Mild on cask is an instant order for me, but so rare in my experience.

il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Monday, 13 November 2023 21:35 (five months ago) link

After being a hazebro for most of the last 8 years, I've been making a conscious effort to expand my palate again. I've been drinking a bunch of Rothaus Pils "Tannen Zapfle" and Weihenstephaner Festbier for the last couple of weeks and loving the change.

il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Monday, 13 November 2023 21:39 (five months ago) link

Oops, that's MacLeod brewery.

nickn, Monday, 13 November 2023 21:45 (five months ago) link

three months pass...

https://i.imgur.com/5xigM3n.jpg

Where have you been all my life

calstars, Sunday, 18 February 2024 18:36 (two months ago) link

Dunno about that one

H.P, Sunday, 18 February 2024 22:12 (two months ago) link

The other day I had a Grodziskie beer, and oof, not my thing. By design, really light, bubbly and low-alcohol, which are all fine, but also smokey, which made it taste like drinking a kielbasa. I assume all smokey beers are kind of controversial, but this one was especially not my jam.

I really like these (and Sketchbook's in particular), though the friend I tried it with didn't like it at all as well. I've had a few smoked lagers since, American and German Rauchbiers, and dug them as well. Kind of surprised they didn't have a moment in the 2010s when smokiness was featured in so many condiments, especially having that barrel-aged flavor without the syrup-ness of barrel-aged stouts.

paisley got boring (Eazy), Monday, 19 February 2024 00:42 (two months ago) link

To each his own but for me there’s no better clue to “pass” on a menu listing than “smoked”

I’d just as soon as have smoked Gouda or something at home instead of in a beer gag

calstars, Monday, 19 February 2024 00:56 (two months ago) link

Assuming that post wasn't from me, I had one of those smoky beers some months ago, and boy was it gross.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 19 February 2024 00:58 (two months ago) link

“Smoked lager” is a thing blue point brewing offers and vomits

calstars, Monday, 19 February 2024 01:07 (two months ago) link

To each his own but for me there’s no better clue to “pass” on a menu listing than “smoked”

Otm

H.P, Monday, 19 February 2024 01:08 (two months ago) link

I tried to make one recently and it was the worst thing I'd ever tasted. I thought I just botched it but I went and bought a bunch of smoked beers and nope, turns out that's just how they taste

H.P, Monday, 19 February 2024 01:09 (two months ago) link

iirc there was an interesting "why" behind that style, but ... so?

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 19 February 2024 01:13 (two months ago) link

yeah hard pass for me as well

I painted my teeth (sleeve), Monday, 19 February 2024 03:03 (two months ago) link

Wow, more for me, I guess!

paisley got boring (Eazy), Monday, 19 February 2024 04:26 (two months ago) link

Feel like it needs to be recorded somewhere that Sligo's own The White Hag brewery have achieved some rare brilliance in the imperial stout department. Yours, Rapidly Ensozzled

imago, Monday, 19 February 2024 16:25 (two months ago) link

one month passes...

Gonna be in North Carolina for a couple of days, what are the typical menu beer option go-tos?

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 20 March 2024 13:45 (one month ago) link


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