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billy posted this list of songs intended for the forever-delayed reissue a few years ago and it works pretty well in sequence up until "with every light" as a closer but no one has any clue if any of this is actually the planned tracklist because he's said a million things about how many tracks will make up the proper album itself vs. bonus tracks for the reissue, what the sequence will be like, etc.
― ufo, Wednesday, 6 September 2023 23:11 (eight months ago) link
This record sounded even worse to me when it came out because I first heard it on pre-recorded cassette (probably the last album I heard that way). The record company had evidently tried to master the cassette at the same level as the CD and it was completely distorted.
― Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 7 September 2023 00:19 (eight months ago) link
idk since the machina reissue is never coming out should i try to make my own über-machina? i've seen a few attempts on youtube that work pretty well, but it's such a vast amount of material to sequence
― ivy., Saturday, 9 September 2023 14:44 (seven months ago) link
corgan's "tracklist" makes no sense to me at all lol
― ivy., Saturday, 9 September 2023 14:45 (seven months ago) link
i didn't even try to see if this works but it feels good for a first draft:
if there is a god (piano/vox)i of the mourningglass' themedrossstand inside your lovevanityreal loveraindrops + sunshowerstry, try, tryspeed kills (machina bonus track version)the everlasting gazecash car starthe imploding voicethe sacred and profanethis timeblue skies bring tears (heavy)white spyderthe crying tree of mercuryin my bodyheavy metal machinewoundinnosensehomeglass and the ghost childrenif there is a god (full band)with every lighthere's to the atom bomb (machina bonus track version)age of innocence
― ivy., Saturday, 9 September 2023 14:58 (seven months ago) link
i accidentally cut “slow dawn” sorry “slow dawn”
― ivy., Saturday, 9 September 2023 15:06 (seven months ago) link
no one knows if that tracklist of billy's is even intended as a sequence or anything and if it is then it pretty obviously ends up being bonus discs of b-sides at some point but no one knows where ("with every light" ending the album proper would be my best guess though). mostly i'm morbidly curious what sort of weird vision he's come up with & i wanna hear higher-fi machina ii tracks
i've attempted to sequence my own machina before but there are a lot of problems like-the concept is pretty stupid and there isn't enough to go on to make much of it anyway-there is a stupid amount of material and a lot of it is not great, especially the heavier tracks-even more of the material is just 'decent not great' which makes trying to figure out whether to include it harder-the sound of the album annoys me after a while and it all kinda blurs together
― ufo, Saturday, 9 September 2023 15:08 (seven months ago) link
and “lucky 13,” which, both weirdly encapsulate the two primary moods of the record: mid-tempo ethereal shit and heavy rawk which is winking at you about its self-importance the entire time
― ivy., Saturday, 9 September 2023 15:10 (seven months ago) link
xp
the only song i really wanted to cut was "heavy metal machine" but it's too important to the uh "story"
it is criminal, imo, that "vanity" was not on the album, nor was it a single
― ivy., Saturday, 9 September 2023 15:14 (seven months ago) link
disc one would be “if there is a god” -> “this time,” disc two “blue skies” to the end. to the degree that i am familiar with the actual concept of the record (way too familiar), i am not linearly following the story but it’s less jumbled than the albums that came out. afaict things get really bad for our narrator at the start of disc two
― ivy., Saturday, 9 September 2023 15:25 (seven months ago) link
I love Heavy Metal Machine, it has always felt like a centerpiece of the album in it's pomposity.
― braised cod, Saturday, 9 September 2023 17:12 (seven months ago) link
the only part of the album where I’m like “oh no” is the solo vocal segment on everlasting gaze
― brimstead, Saturday, 9 September 2023 18:56 (seven months ago) link
One day that box set will come. One day.
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 9 September 2023 22:28 (seven months ago) link