I overstated that, yes, but I think he gets a measure of respect from a lot of fans and writers today that Kingman didn't. This evolution, of course, started 25 years ago when James would tell people that Bobby Grich and Darrell Evans and Gene Tenace were better players--contributed more to winning games--than Steve Garvey or Bill Buckner or Al Oliver did. He was widely viewed as a crackpot. Analytics isn't exactly mainstream yet, but it's getting closer and closer all the time. (Not a meaningless indicator, I'd say: WAR on Immaculate Grid today.)
― clemenza, Thursday, 26 October 2023 21:16 (six months ago) link
Today: James is widely viewed as a crackpot, but for different reasons...progress!
― clemenza, Thursday, 26 October 2023 21:17 (six months ago) link
"25 years ago"--make that 45
― clemenza, Thursday, 26 October 2023 21:26 (six months ago) link
https://www.baseballprospectus.com/news/article/86275/veteran-presence-kyle-schwarber-phillies-leadoff/
I can't access this--"Is Kyle Schwarber the Weirdest Leadoff Hitter Ever?--but I'm guessing it splits the difference as to how he's viewed today.
― clemenza, Thursday, 26 October 2023 21:39 (six months ago) link
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I imagine it's really tough to have a full season in which your runs, hits, rbi, and walks are so numerically close to each other.
― omar little, Thursday, 26 October 2023 22:12 (six months ago) link
Not as close, but geez, his batting average was also a three-digit number starting with 1.
― clemenza, Friday, 27 October 2023 12:28 (six months ago) link
I stand corrected on Dave Kingman. Turns out he did have his fans.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKNnXZqQom8
― clemenza, Tuesday, 31 October 2023 00:02 (six months ago) link
Sabermetrics is kind of old news; I propose turning this into a "Tommy Lasorda sure does love to say 'fuck' a lot" video thread.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvFMEoKI7eE
― clemenza, Tuesday, 31 October 2023 03:18 (six months ago) link
Getting back to the subject at hand, all those links in this thread's original post 13 years ago are still active. SIERA (Skill-Interactive Earned Run Average): never really took off.
― clemenza, Tuesday, 31 October 2023 03:41 (six months ago) link
Which is odd, being so easy to calculate in your head:
6.145 – 16.986*(SO/PA) + 11.434*(BB/PA) – 1.858((GB-FB-PU)/PA) + 7.653*((SO/PA)^2) +/- 6.664*(((GB-FB-PU)/PA)^2) + 10.130*(SO/PA)*((GB-FB-PU)/PA) – 5.195*(BB/PA)*((GB-FB-PU)/PA) where +/- is as before such that it is a negative sign when (GB-FB-PU)/PA is positive and vice versa.
― clemenza, Tuesday, 31 October 2023 03:43 (six months ago) link
u mad doggie?
Brian Cashman pushes back on the notion that the Yankees are an "analytically-driven" organization:"No one is doing their deep dives, they're just throwing bulls--- and accusing us of being run analytically. To be said we're guided by analytics as a driver is a lie." pic.twitter.com/ru6gAYc0Cf— Yankees Videos (@snyyankees) November 7, 2023
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 8 November 2023 11:28 (five months ago) link
Amusing if you grew up with this:
https://i.postimg.cc/ZRPJVS6M/lineup.jpg
They've got #2 wrong: that was your fabled bat-control, hit-and-run guy.
― clemenza, Thursday, 18 April 2024 20:31 (two weeks ago) link
"guy who sees 10 pitches per AB"
― Ryan seaQuest (Will M.), Friday, 19 April 2024 20:50 (two weeks ago) link
That too, yeah--give your leadoff guy a chance to steal. Neither of the first two #2 hitters I think of, though, match the stereotype: Griffey for the Big Red Machine (faster than Rose at leadoff), and Alomar for the Jays' WS teams (would have been a #3 hitter on many teams, but the Jays were overloaded with hitting).
― clemenza, Saturday, 20 April 2024 00:13 (two weeks ago) link