John Cale S/D

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gorgeous

gives me a vibe of Odessa-era Bee Gees in the best way? maybe just his voice or something but man

plus The Band-adjacent country style is so good

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 15 November 2023 03:04 (five months ago) link

yeah. i've always kind of thought of it as his "loaded"

budo jeru, Wednesday, 15 November 2023 03:32 (five months ago) link

it's very psychey-pop for sure in parts - cleo in particular <3

fpsa, Wednesday, 15 November 2023 04:24 (five months ago) link

is there any song as good as Gideon's Bible?! No there is not it is the best song ever

Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Wednesday, 15 November 2023 14:45 (five months ago) link

The chorus on Gideon’s Bible from Vintage Violence is 4 stars

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 15 November 2023 14:53 (five months ago) link

Won't you help me sneeze, I've caught a cold.

The First Time Ever I Saw Gervais (Tom D.), Wednesday, 15 November 2023 14:57 (five months ago) link

One of the songs where you can really see Cale's Beach Boys love.

Ward Fowler, Wednesday, 15 November 2023 14:59 (five months ago) link

xxpost yeah Gideons Bible is amazing

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 15 November 2023 15:36 (five months ago) link

Won't you help me sneeze, I've caught a cold.


I do love the slide guitar on this beauty. The whole albums shimmers in its own unique way

brimstead, Wednesday, 15 November 2023 15:51 (five months ago) link

the opening track is so delightful, just a lovely Hello There wave from Cale
it was so unexpected!

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 15 November 2023 18:07 (five months ago) link

For some reason my streaming service is obsessed with Gideon's Bible, when I shuffle stuff at random it always plays and its fine I like it but it does seem weird giving my listening habits that the algorithm has latched on to this particular song "oh dude loves Gideon's Bible let's play it again!"

chr1sb3singer, Wednesday, 15 November 2023 19:16 (five months ago) link

on a side note
Am reading Whats Welsh For Zen and was not prepared for his neanderthal views of women and/or physical violence. Tough going. Obv the music stuff is interesting but his dispassionate telling of his marriages & his own truly awful behavior like he’s talking about a walk to the shops really does my head in.

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 16 November 2023 20:03 (five months ago) link

yah hes a legendary asshole

kurt schwitterz, Thursday, 16 November 2023 20:09 (five months ago) link

annoyed at myself for going in wide-eyed but oh well

pray for me

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 16 November 2023 20:20 (five months ago) link

he just killed a chicken & threw the head into the crowd

._.

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 16 November 2023 20:23 (five months ago) link

it’s a selling point of the book that he talks about stuff in a frank matter of fact way but it was horrifying to read him describing smashing his gf’s teeth with a whiskey glass and then just sort of breezing on to the next anecdote

Boris Yitsbin (wins), Thursday, 16 November 2023 20:28 (five months ago) link

yeah horrifying

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 16 November 2023 20:30 (five months ago) link

The chicken incident did result in a good, funny (assholish) song

Boris Yitsbin (wins), Thursday, 16 November 2023 20:38 (five months ago) link

There's a weird disconnect between the blithe way he describes some of his misdeeds, mostly from his alcohol and drug era, and the insightful introspection of other parts of the book.

The chorus on Gideon’s Bible from Vintage Violence is 4 stars

My favourite bit is the fadeout, with the viola coming in, like the end of a credit sequence in some forgotten urban 1970 movie.

Fans of "roots" John Cale should give a listen to his unloved 1996 album Walking on Locusts. It features one of his all-time best songs, "Secret Corrida" (which is more Leonard Cohen than Americana).

Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 16 November 2023 20:45 (five months ago) link

Just came across a good interview---didn't realize he wrote so much in the studio, and was so into improvising there---this part is striking as well, on VU gigs with the Mothers:

...the only reason Zappa was on those gigs was that Herb Cohen knew that he'd get all this publicity from Andy and us. The thing is about Frank, that was reinforced years after I saw him, is that he had a very acerbic wit, which was kind of enjoyable, but at the same time, I really can't say there was anything about his music or him that made me love music. There was something about him, I think it was a real deep-seeded anger and fury about being forced to learn music in the first place - there was a revenge factor there - but it made me very uncomfortable watching him. There was so much putting down of himself that wasn't pleasant. I lost the gleam of innocence that you get from somebody really enjoying a melody or a solo or anything like that. And he could rip off [play, not pilfer] all these incredible solos, and you knew the guy had tremendous talent, but there was never anything there that made me love music so I'd want to do it. The reason you're doing this is to show how people how exciting and enjoyable this is. It's a shared experience. People shouldn't be punished for sharing an experience.

---from the Oklahoma Daily:
https://www.oudaily.com/interview-with-john-cale/article_ede0d7c9-ebb8-5745-a974-e937d103ad84.html

dow, Friday, 17 November 2023 04:35 (five months ago) link

Didn’t Zappa famously mock Nico from the side of the stage, pretending to play organ and making pained singing faces?

Shifty Henry’s Swing Club (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 17 November 2023 06:00 (five months ago) link

Oh worse than that, he went up on stage and actually played her organ and sang some moronic lyrics not much different from his usual output.

Shifty Henry’s Swing Club (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 17 November 2023 06:47 (five months ago) link

He did play "All Tomorrow's Parties" when the BBC gave him a radio show to play his favourite music. Along with some other surprising choices (the UK Subs!) Zappa that is, not Cale. He was still an asshole though of course.

The First Time Ever I Saw Gervais (Tom D.), Friday, 17 November 2023 09:41 (five months ago) link

Right, forgot about that. The ATP part that is, not the other part.

Shifty Henry’s Swing Club (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 17 November 2023 10:55 (five months ago) link

Also that thing I posted brings up something I never thought about, comparing the different flavors of control that FZ and AW bring to the table and what may lie behind each.

Shifty Henry’s Swing Club (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 17 November 2023 13:09 (five months ago) link

three months pass...

Wiesbaden? John Cale, the lost years.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L24Ix6dDoNw

The British Boy of Film Classification (Tom D.), Sunday, 25 February 2024 11:22 (two months ago) link

lol the mic came right off the cord, amazing footage

I painted my teeth (sleeve), Sunday, 25 February 2024 16:39 (two months ago) link

Fun fact, he had a real problem with cocaine. Who would have guessed?

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 25 February 2024 16:45 (two months ago) link

Ha, did you read that James Young book?

The Ginger Bakersfield Sound (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 25 February 2024 16:49 (two months ago) link

Nico book? I haven't. I can only imagine.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 25 February 2024 16:51 (two months ago) link

It’s great. Very funny too.

The Ginger Bakersfield Sound (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 25 February 2024 17:03 (two months ago) link

Interviews where the singer confuses Wiesbaden with Darmstadt.

The British Boy of Film Classification (Tom D.), Sunday, 25 February 2024 17:13 (two months ago) link

the first Fluxus concert was in Wiesbaden. Maciunas organized and Nam June Paik performed a Young composition, see around 3:50 here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YibFHWZ66GQ

bulb after bulb, Sunday, 25 February 2024 17:48 (two months ago) link

Ah right, I assumed he meant Darmstat, apologies to John CoCale.

The British Boy of Film Classification (Tom D.), Sunday, 25 February 2024 17:55 (two months ago) link

He don't lie, he don't lie, he don't lie, CoCale.

nickn, Sunday, 25 February 2024 19:15 (two months ago) link

The Bloat Years

completely suited to the horny decadence (Capitaine Jay Vee), Sunday, 25 February 2024 22:04 (two months ago) link

#onethread he’s playing Pablo Picasso at the end of Tom’s clip

(insane that he goes right back to madly swinging another mic after the first one flew off)

bulb after bulb, Sunday, 25 February 2024 22:09 (two months ago) link

I was trying to think who he looks like in that video and I've realized it's the landlord of a pub I drink in. Which isn't much use to anyone else.

The British Boy of Film Classification (Tom D.), Sunday, 25 February 2024 22:48 (two months ago) link

one month passes...

"Beethoven In The Old West" is the Cale-iest Cale song title ever.

bendy, Tuesday, 26 March 2024 16:01 (one month ago) link

Speedy for him!

Slorg is not on the Slerf Team, you idiot, you moron (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 17:57 (one month ago) link

Man I wish this dude would switch things up in the canned beats department.

Davey D, Tuesday, 2 April 2024 13:08 (one month ago) link

Lol

Make Me Smile (Come Around and See Me) (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 2 April 2024 15:06 (one month ago) link


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