even more quiddities and agonies of the ruling class - a new rolling new york times thread

On Trail Of Tears, A Lively Trade In Second-Hand Baby Clothes

Who created the dichotomy of “us” and “them” in this particular instance? Sometimes I read these threads and feel like I’m losing my mind.

xp idk i do think the thread is specifically about calling out elitism and class privilege, which i think explains why you're getting this response from some. we do have the "no way NYT" like i said

and to be clear i think the NYT can fuck right off

it’s about the world as viewed by the ownership class

where 1000s of dead palestinians (and thais etc) become a business continuity issue

i don't disagree but also the entirety of the NYT is devoted to depicting the world as viewed by the ownership class. and so i sympathize with those who felt that you were suggesting that the farmers themselves ought to be the object of derision, since that's generally how this thread works

Colts owner Jim Irsay says he was arrested in 2014 because he’s ‘a rich, white billionaire’

Irsay said he’d recently had hip surgery at the time, which made it difficult for him to walk and required him to take prescribed medications. He told her he pleaded guilty to the misdemeanor because he just wanted to get it over with.

Irsay went on to accuse the Indianapolis suburb’s Carmel Police Department of profiling him. . . . “If I’m just the average guy down the block, they’re not pulling me in, of course not.”

Aaron W. Gordon @awgordon.bsky.social

I love the WSJ so much. Laser-focused on its intended audience.

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I dunno rising pedestrian deaths are a pretty serious issue

advocating for walkable city is not ruling class quiddity imo

(Not addressed to you specifically budo) In case it wasn’t clear I meant pedestrian deaths are indeed a serious issue. Private automobiles should banned from most of Manhattan.

i know. i was addressing the inclusion of the article in this thread in the first place.

not to speak for the good lord but I think it was posted for the namedropping headline… and the idea that well now that we’ve reached a state where Baudelaire himself would be run over in the streets the issue of pedestrian safety is sufficiently dire to merit ink

I think the thing that has changed the pedestrian safety dynamic in NYC is the ubiquity of delivery people on e-bikes. Maybe it's classist to point this out?

It is funny how the WSJ is so much more openly ruling class, whereas the NYT tries to hide it a bit.

Yeah, its a bit obvious when the WSJ weekly real estate section is called "Mansion", no beating around the bush.

Of course I'm sure that's aspirational for most WSJ readers.

delivery people on e-bikes kill a couple people each year in nyc. cars and trucks kill the other 200-250

Sure, I'm talking about the sense of personal safety as a pedestrian though. Getting hit by a bike is still no fun.

In that article the writer says she was hit three times by bikes last year! I'm sure if she'd been hit by cars 3 times she wouldn't be around to write about it.

not to speak for the good lord but I think it was posted for the namedropping headline… and the idea that well now that we’ve reached a state where Baudelaire himself would be run over in the streets the issue of pedestrian safety is sufficiently dire to merit ink

― brimstead,

This.

yep, lol at the idea of winning people to this (extremely good!) cause with this framing, though I admit I kind of enjoyed it

How would these abortion restrictions have affected Madame de Stael?

The Best Part of Tiny Living? The ‘Freedom We Have Created for Ourselves.’
With a little house in The Hague, a compact getaway on the Italian island of Sardinia and a well-designed camper van, who needs a conventional home

When the renovation was finished, the couple were so pleased with their new compact living space, its proximity to the beach and its friendly neighborhood that they arrived at an unexpected conclusion: They wanted to live there all the time.

“That’s how the downsizing started,” Ms. Wassenaar said. “We started living in the small place and renting out the bigger home in the posh neighborhood.”

Before long, Mr. Losonsky, who had bought the couple’s old apartment before meeting Ms. Wassenaar and had paid off the mortgage, came to another realization: With rent coming in and few expenses, he no longer needed to work. He retired in late 2019, just before turning 50.

They Took Their Horses to the Swiss Alps for Snow Polo. They Got Slush Instead.

lmao

My favorite Liars album.

The Case for Marrying an Older Man

When I was 20 and a junior at Harvard College, a series of great ironies began to mock me. I could study all I wanted, prove myself as exceptional as I liked, and still my fiercest advantage remained so universal it deflated my other plans. My youth. The newness of my face and body. Compellingly effortless; cruelly fleeting. I shared it with the average, idle young woman shrugging down the street. The thought, when it descended on me, jolted my perspective, the way a falling leaf can make you look up: I could diligently craft an ideal existence, over years and years of sleepless nights and industry. Or I could just marry it early.

So naturally I began to lug a heavy suitcase of books each Saturday to the Harvard Business School to work on my Nabokov paper. In one cavernous, well-appointed room sat approximately 50 of the planet’s most suitable bachelors. I had high breasts, most of my eggs, plausible deniability when it came to purity, a flush ponytail, a pep in my step that had yet to run out. Apologies to Progress, but older men still desired those things.

just expert level hate-read trolling

I tapped out of that one after about a paragraph because of how bad the prose is. I'm sure the ideas are vile, but it's unreadable so I'll never know.

Grazie Sophia Christie

of course that's her name

Grazie for the amazing editorial

well done once again to the essays team at The Cut

tbf, I think she's just saying the quiet part loud for a certain niche of people, and her real crime is shamelessness + terrible writing

best beloved max on grazie:

I’m personally trying not to have a strong opinion about the essay because it mostly seems like “none of my business,” but I am always interested people who can successfully make themselves Main Characters. Where did they come from? What is their personal and professional network like? Do they have What It Takes to become long-lasting provocateurs and icons of discourse? Christie is “a writer living in Miami and London,” with recent bylines in the intermittently tendentious literary magazine The Point and the magnificently deranged right-wing website Tablet; she recently started her own literary magazine, The Miami Native, with another writer named Ginevra Lily Davis. Davis got her start at the infamous conservative campus publication Stanford Review, which was founded in the 1990s by the venture capitalists Peter Thiel and Keith Rabois, who both own property and live in Miami part-time; now she writes for the Thiel-associated “post-liberal” policy magazine Palladium; the Thiel-funded, winkingly Trumpist journal American Affairs; and, of course, Tablet. (Both Christie and Davis have been approvingly cited by Times op-ed columnists: Christie’s Point essay on female friendship was linked to by Ross Douthat, while Davis’ essay “Stanford’s War on Social Life” “won” one of David Brooks’ patented “Sidney Awards.”)

This is a heady intellectual brew, and gives me great hope that we will be hearing from Christie (and, though the age-gap essay has nothing to do with her, Davis) for a long time. It also speaks quite well for the continuing prominence of Miami, a beautiful, thriving, culturally rich global city, that is also the epicenter of almost everything bad3: Climate change! Crypto speculation! Tech reactionaries! OnlyFans scammers! Art dealers! The Miami Native certainly looks good--it’s designed by the Brooklyn-based “Asimov Studios,” who specialize in clients who are “building American dynamism”--and it devotes a page to reader-submitted gossip, which is the kind of Gawker-like feature that endears a publication to me. I wonder who funds it!

Breasts: mad perky
Writing: poor
Capable of feeling shame: not even a little

Still having a hard time with “shrugging down the street” and I’m imagining a woman walking while jerking her shoulders with every step.

this reminds me of the emergence of Caitlin Flanagan, which was absolutely infuriating because everything she wrote was inflammatory and she had the platform of the Atlantic because...someone found her charming at a dinner party iirc? I remember screaming to myself HOW DID YOU GET HERE?!?!

also backwards ideas about women and their role in society? check

Mookie owes me a fabulous life in London and Miami (or at least a drink) for bringing this crap to my attention.

She also reminds me of Megan McArdle inasmuch as she doesn’t even try to pretend to be aware of class or how it plays into the whole thing. The audience is just assumed to be women who could just waltz into the Harvard business school library (or Wharton or the local country club) and sit around looking hot or whatever. Which is actually a pretty tiny audience.

Still having a hard time with “shrugging down the street” and I’m imagining a woman walking while jerking her shoulders with every step.

The trick is to store up enough elastic energy in your shoulders to propel you down the street on release.

this reminds me of the emergence of Caitlin Flanagan

lol I was wondering if this was a new CF-adjacent thing somehow but I refused to look into it any further.

this piece was previously discussed on the NY Mag thread f y’all i

sorry i do not read that thread bc i do not read NY mag :)

also xp lol @ io <3

I don’t read The NY Times tbf

> I remember screaming to myself HOW DID YOU GET HERE?!?!

I guess you could say that this is not your... beautiful writer, or something.

There is water at the bottom of the ocean.

“They Built Three Houses Together. Now She Must Do It Alone.”

‘A husband’s sudden death gave a widow time to reflect on the designs of their second homes and how to make one on her own.’

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/06/realestate/sarah-mai-miller-widow-chalk-242.html?unlocked_article_code=1.jU0.CBAP.FBaBelGhWTrU&smid=url-share

i would rob those houses but there is nothing in them that i want. those bags with the house names on them. i would steal just those. and then throw them away. i hate to speak ill of the rich dead but you know that guy was drunk on rare tequila when he crashed his car and killed three other people.