Reading Ulysses

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A couple of them are students there iirc

glumdalclitch, Friday, 2 February 2024 16:17 (two months ago) link

yes, and on shift, and the others are paying them a visit. it's not wildly implausible, but still odd. it honestly was a factor in me giving up on my first attempt many years ago, without any online guides. sure the language was the main thing but i just didn't have a handle on the big picture. they're having a big piss up? but they're in a hospital?

organ doner (ledge), Friday, 2 February 2024 16:48 (two months ago) link

I imagine the standards of the day were somewhat different

wang mang band (Noodle Vague), Friday, 2 February 2024 17:57 (two months ago) link

Lol

Al Green Explores Your Mind Gardens (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 2 February 2024 17:58 (two months ago) link

Boys but don’t think I don’t know what you are about in that hospital of yours!

Al Green Explores Your Mind Gardens (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 2 February 2024 17:59 (two months ago) link

I read it at 16 without any guides too and yeah, they are necessary for any number of reasons. But I still enjoyed the headiness of it all.
On my recent reread I availed myself of Harry Blamires, Jeri Johnson etc. Cleared up loads of mysteries.

Re the hospital, I don't know, my assumption is that as it's a teaching hospital there are facilities/spaces for the students to eat and drink (and even board as well?), and as NV indicates, the kind of status that male students had in those days, and the leeway they were given, is rather different from today; so the place feels halfway between a college and a hospital, essentially. I could look up what took place at Holles Street Hospital, but this is what i take from it, and I trust Joyce is not inventing it.

glumdalclitch, Friday, 2 February 2024 23:27 (two months ago) link

To me Scylla and Charybdis feels more incongruous, the other fellas are clearly not all that interested in what Stephen has to say, they have stuff to do, and yet they indulge him in his monologue. I very much doubt Stephen cannot see their bored or unamused expressions, but he ploughs on, probably trying to impress AE. I feel Joyce's desire to express his Shakespeare theory trumped his sense of the veridical, and he knows someone would likely have told Stephen to pipe down.

glumdalclitch, Friday, 2 February 2024 23:51 (two months ago) link

two months pass...

“After 10 attempts at reading and completing James Joyce’s magnificent ‘Ulysses’ and only making it to page 10 each time, on attempt number 11, I finally did it! Hallelujah! ‘Ulysses’ should be a real inspiration to anyone interested in breaking the rules in any art form.” -Ron📚 pic.twitter.com/m0Hhdavi6y

— S P A R K S (@sparksofficial) April 26, 2024

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 30 April 2024 10:23 (yesterday) link

He finally made it to page 11. Now for the rest of it.

I've left the box of soup near your shoes (Tom D.), Tuesday, 30 April 2024 10:27 (yesterday) link

well that may inspire me to pick it up again

Are you addicted to struggling with your horse? (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 30 April 2024 15:28 (yesterday) link

"The Lady is Lingering" on Indiscreet borrows some lines from a Henry Miller book, Ron can make something out of literary inspiration.

Halfway there but for you, Tuesday, 30 April 2024 16:10 (yesterday) link


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