Toby Keith has been honoured with four prizes at the Academy of Country Music awards. Toby Keith , Classic Or Dud?

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Colbert did a skit with Kissinger once too

omar little, Wednesday, 7 February 2024 16:46 (two months ago) link

Toby Keith only sang about dropping bombs on people

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Wednesday, 7 February 2024 16:52 (two months ago) link

true he was only in the propaganda division

omar little, Wednesday, 7 February 2024 17:01 (two months ago) link

obviously though he wasn't alone, it was a weird time. it's a shame bc i'm sure he was better than that. though i wasn't into what i did hear, he seems to be more nuanced than idk big & rich.

omar little, Wednesday, 7 February 2024 17:04 (two months ago) link

more than rich at least. Big Kenny is a bit of a hippie.

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Wednesday, 7 February 2024 17:09 (two months ago) link

"I Love This Bar" is so bad in every way. Just the most pandering obvious shit, I was embarrassed for whoever was singing it the first time I heard it and then I found out it was this guy and I thought "oh, of course." I know, I know, "But it's a hit!" -- but it's like a bloodless Mellencamp, like Billy Joel with a hat on. May his memory be a blessing to his friends and family but I am honestly mystified to learn that anybody who thinks about songs thinks well of "I Love This Bar," which sounds like it was written by a committee with a view to, if everything goes right, maybe opening up a line of bars.

J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Wednesday, 7 February 2024 18:14 (two months ago) link

if i've ever heard a toby keith song it was by accident and i have no memory of it, but i still dig reading your old stuff, Don/Dow!! you tongue-twisting speed demon! makes me want to go rite a rok revue.

scott seward, Wednesday, 7 February 2024 18:30 (two months ago) link

"I Love This Bar" is so bad in every way. Just the most pandering obvious shit,

Counterpoint: the "mmmm" part gets stuck in my head, and his kind of bar is more egalitarian than what his even more pigfuck disciples would celebrate.

poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 7 February 2024 19:30 (two months ago) link

I like my truck
I like my truck
And I like my girlfriend
I like my girlfriend
I like to take her out to dinner
I like a movie now and then

Yessir

brimstead, Wednesday, 7 February 2024 19:41 (two months ago) link

sorry, respect

brimstead, Wednesday, 7 February 2024 19:41 (two months ago) link

Workin' hard, gettin' drunk

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 7 February 2024 20:29 (two months ago) link

Yeah, like Alfred,I think the early years were his best. But he had his moments later. Chuck Eddy's Voice view of Keith's career, as of 2008:

...Toby’s image is clearly his own fault: When he made the Statue of Liberty shake her fist in 2002’s outrageously rousing “Courtesy of the Red, White and Blue” (awesome karaoke song, btw), Toby defined himself despite himself, and the self-proclaimed conservative Democrat has been trying to live it down ever since. Except when he hasn’t: He’s currently making a movie somehow based on “Beer for My Horses,” the even more despicable ode to lynching (of “gangsters”) that he sang with Willie Nelson around the same time. Add his camel-jockey cartoon, “The Taliban Song” (“Ahab the Arab” updated for the age when “Turkmenistan” is a very rhythmic word), his obligatory “American Soldier” (about how freedom isn’t free), and his soggy dishrag “Ain’t No Right Way” (implicitly anti-choice and explicitly pro–prayer in public schools), and it looks like we’ve got ourselves some Neanderthal species of nationalist numbskull.

But here’s the thing: That handful of songs (a couple of which appeared on a surprisingly funky 2003 album entitled Shock’n Y’All, har har) is pretty much where Toby’s editorializing ends, at least on record. His output is no more limited by his war-machine anthem than Merle Haggard’s was by the comparably opportunistic “Okie From Muskogee” and “The Fightin’ Side of Me” when Nixon was president. And not many country artists since Merle have managed a creative streak like Toby’s these past few years—in fact, to my ears, his ’00s output (six albums plus change, including half of 2006’s Broken Bridges soundtrack and a few spare tracks collected on his new 35 Biggest Hits) just might stand up to anybody else’s this decade, in any musical genre.

Go ahead and attribute my fandom partly to biographical coincidence: Toby was born in July 1961, a half-year after me; we both have three kids; we’re both straight white guys who’ve done time in inland suburbia. Then again, I’ve never personally worked an oil field or a semi-pro football field, my grandma didn’t run a supper club, I’m not six-foot-four and 240 pounds, I don’t own a bar and grill in Oklahoma, and I don’t do Ford commercials. But we both apparently cut our teeth on the same Bob Seger and John Cougar LPs, so I’m a sucker for the chili-dog-outside-the-Tastee-Freez heartland-rock riffs he stuck in four songs on last year’s Big Dog Daddy, the first album he produced himself. And where I come from, “water-tower poet class of ’73” is a right pithy depiction of hip-hop’s fourth element, and calling your most ZZ-worthy boogie “Zig Zag Stomp” is a darn clever pun.

It also helps that the big lug isn’t afraid to make fun of himself—for being a bumbling husband, say, or for being a boyfriend who likes his girlfriend but loves his local bar, or for his aging-athlete body not working as well as it used to. His class resentment (in “Get Drunk and Be Somebody” and “High Maintenance Woman,” say) is totally good-natured as well. But where Toby most manifestly trounces the competition is with his singing (and, frequently, talking), which only gets smarter and warmer and more conversational—richer in both his high and low registers—as his career goes on. The song that first made me take notice, 1999’s “How Do You Like Me Now,” had him bellowing like Billy Ray Cyrus in Meat Loaf mode, but since then he’s figured out how to communicate a masculine vulnerability with an easy-as-Sunday-morning soul phrasing equal to Ronnie Milsap or T. Graham Brown, if not quite Charlie Rich (listen to “That’s Not How It Is” or “Your Smile”); his latest move is a Barry White cover with power forward turned jazz bassist Wayman Tisdale. On his best album, 2006’s White Trash With Money, Toby jumped ship from DreamWorks to his own Show Dog Nashville imprint, where green-eyed country-soul convert Lari White surrounded him with Tex-Mex accordions, Western swing saxes, Dusty in Memphis orchestrations, and Dixieland kazoos, coaxing laid-back nuances and big, blue notes out of him that made perfect sense alongside the same year’s Collector’s Choice reissue of Dean Martin’s 1955 Swingin’ Down Yonder.

So Toby’s a bit of a late bloomer: He had six regular-issue albums and a handful of country Top 10s under his belt before his ass-boot woke up the world beyond CMT. The chronological 35 Biggest Hits, for its part, starts off as cautiously (but as competently) as any good Alan Jackson retrospective—the hit about the 18-year-old getting her first upstairs apartment downtown kills me, seeing how I just helped my daughter move to Brooklyn, and “Who’s That Man” and “A Woman’s Touch” employ open space in a ghostly way. And though I hope Mercury canned whoever thought a Sting duet was a marketable concept, even that song makes for a decent divorced-dad depiction. But Toby qua Toby doesn’t really bust out until “Dream Walkin’ “/”Getcha Some”/”How Do You Like Me Now,” beginning 14 tracks in; after that, there’s no looking back. If you’re new to the guy, start with disc two, then check out a few ’00s albums before you shift back to disc one.

Getting loud—even a bit blowhard—was the first step. But for years now, Toby’s sincere ballad side has been catching up with his funny rocking side. Even in a genre where vocal aptitude is a prerequisite for career longevity, masterful voices and discernible personalities (especially personalities with hot beefcake sex and a sense of humor and a chip on their shoulder attached) don’t always coincide: Shooter Jennings might match Toby in a war of wits, but he can barely sing a lick, while Toby out-sings squeaky-clean goody-goodies from Travis to Jackson to Strait. And on top of that, though he’s been known to borrow winners from wooden-voiced wordsmiths like Paul Thorn or Fred Eaglesmith on occasion, Toby’s also the rare Nashville star who seems to do most of his own writing.

And again, dude can write. I admire his move-over-small-dog-a-big-dog-daddy’s-movin’-in shtick, and how he does way more songs celebrating one-night stands than somebody married 24 years should be able to get away with—and how they don’t come with angst or a moral attached. He’s the kind of burly old teddy bear who’ll stash his sleeping bag (and dog bowl?) behind your couch and finally remember your early-November birthday in December, when he shows up with a ribbon tied around your present—”Brand New Bow” beat “Dick in a Box” by eight 2006 months. And if he’s playing wing man for a night, he’ll take one for the team, even if it means sleeping with the fat girl.

OK, that one, “Runnin’ Block” (great football metaphor, huh?), is indefensible—or it would be, anyway, if its chorus melody wasn’t so amazing. Like “The Taliban Song,” it’s one of the “bus songs” that Toby sometimes tacks on at the end of albums—a disingenuous escape hatch he uses when he feels like pulling your chain. Not surprisingly, they’re usually among his livelier tracks. So when do we get a whole disc of those? Soon, I hope, unless the r&b album comes first.


https://www.villagevoice.com/please-stop-belittling-toby-keith-2/

dow, Thursday, 8 February 2024 02:08 (two months ago) link

Ah thanks for posting that! Great piece.

They did release The Bus Songs in 2017. “Shitty Golfer” is a lot of fun.

Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 8 February 2024 09:38 (two months ago) link

Raekwon of Wu-Tang posted a tribute yesterday with a photo of them playing golf together. "One of my good friends"

erasingclouds, Thursday, 8 February 2024 13:44 (two months ago) link

Make sense. Remember GFK’s pro-war verse on Rules?

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Thursday, 8 February 2024 14:38 (two months ago) link

This thread is the ILX equivalent of political reporters transcribing the "wisdom" of rural diner patrons.

Tahuti Watches L&O:SVU Reruns Without His Ape (unperson), Thursday, 8 February 2024 18:31 (two months ago) link

yeah but you get prime don and prime chuck in the village voice excerpts. you have to look at the bright side.

scott seward, Thursday, 8 February 2024 18:33 (two months ago) link

That kind of writing is exactly why I thought there would never be a place for me in the Voice.

Tahuti Watches L&O:SVU Reruns Without His Ape (unperson), Thursday, 8 February 2024 18:39 (two months ago) link

Let's talk about reporters in diners in every thread today challenge

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Thursday, 8 February 2024 18:44 (two months ago) link

Toby Keith's I Love This Diner

an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 8 February 2024 19:02 (two months ago) link

reporters can be eaten in diners too

never trust a big book and a simile (Neanderthal), Thursday, 8 February 2024 19:02 (two months ago) link

If we have to drag Merle into this, its worth noting that he changed his views on the war & counterculture over time and didnt hesitate to call songs like "Okie" and "Fighting Side of Me" the work of a dumb ignorant kid.

is that true? he definitely had mixed feelings about "okie" but as far as i remember he proudly defended "fightin' side" to the end. (a fantastic composition and fantastic recording, to my ears, based on a repulsive idea.)

fact checking cuz, Thursday, 8 February 2024 20:37 (two months ago) link

yeah, I prefer it to "Okie."

poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 8 February 2024 20:39 (two months ago) link

i thought Okie started as a joke? The story I remember reading once was that they were smoking weed on the tour bus and they passed Muskogee and someone in the band cracked "They don't smoke marijuana in Muskogee!"

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 8 February 2024 20:41 (two months ago) link

the one time i saw him live, about 10 years ago, he was great for the 80-ish minutes of his regular set, then he came back for the encore and the entire arena, not just him, turned into a red, white and blue kick-terrorists-in-the-ass-vote-republican-and-be-christian rally. it was legitimately scary. but those 80 minutes were still great.
― fact checking cuz, Tuesday, January 17, 2017 3:48 PM (seven years ago)

everything i loved and hated about toby keith summed in three sentences about 90 minutes. he was a phenomenal and soulful singer and songwriter. he had some deeply problematic ideas. neither of these things cancels out the other.

fact checking cuz, Thursday, 8 February 2024 20:46 (two months ago) link

“Great concert, wonderful memories, shame about the Klan rally at the end but it was wonderful before that”

the new drip king (DJP), Thursday, 8 February 2024 20:49 (two months ago) link

Leave Kanye alone

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Thursday, 8 February 2024 20:57 (two months ago) link

"How Do You Like Me Now?" < the press photo of Trinidad James's visible underwear complete w/ noticeable skidmark

never trust a big book and a simile (Neanderthal), Thursday, 8 February 2024 21:15 (two months ago) link

sad lol djp

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 8 February 2024 21:23 (two months ago) link

Blogged my favorite song of his a couple of days ago:

This isolation booth I'm in is dark and turning cold

And I reviewed him in the Voice in 2002:

Quiet Desert Storm

Frank Kogan, Thursday, 8 February 2024 22:53 (two months ago) link

frank kogan, as i live and breathe. will wonders never cease. this thread has really delivered the old home week cheer!

scott seward, Friday, 9 February 2024 03:25 (two months ago) link

yeah it is often difficult in the old home, it's nice when they give us a week.

a single gunshot and polite applause (Hunt3r), Friday, 9 February 2024 03:42 (two months ago) link

i'd say it's more like a weak cheer tbh

a single gunshot and polite applause (Hunt3r), Friday, 9 February 2024 03:43 (two months ago) link


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