Reading Inherent Vice

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The later Lew Basnight episodes in Against The Day are a lot closer to traditional hardboiled detective fiction than this. When I first heard about the concept for this book I initially thought Pynchon was going to pick up his story where he left off.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 12 August 2009 13:30 (fourteen years ago) link

there's really no femme fatale in this, is there?

there is no there there (elmo argonaut), Wednesday, 12 August 2009 13:38 (fourteen years ago) link

It's true that Doc does carry a gun sometimes and is not adverse to putting himself in dangerous situations (though some of those decisions come across as more befogged than brave). He's not a wuss by any means.

I'm reading the latest Elmore Leonard now and there are some comparisons to be made in terms of the weird, shady, characters and the ear for street-level speech. But Leonard's dialogue is far better.

Brad C., Wednesday, 12 August 2009 13:51 (fourteen years ago) link

http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/newsdesk/2009/08/pynchon-lotion.html

ice cr?m, Wednesday, 12 August 2009 14:49 (fourteen years ago) link

by all accounts he's not any kind of crazy total recluse: he just doesn't do publicity, for the most part, and is perhaps a little cagier than most about being ex-directory

used to know someone who went to school with his niece and saw him at, like, open days and stuff

thomp, Wednesday, 12 August 2009 14:56 (fourteen years ago) link

This niece?!?

Stevie T, Wednesday, 12 August 2009 15:01 (fourteen years ago) link

I am tempted to put together a spotify playlist of these:
http://inherent-vice.pynchonwiki.com/wiki/index.php?title=Songs_mentioned_in_Inherent_Vice

Stevie T, Wednesday, 12 August 2009 15:10 (fourteen years ago) link

Well that's one way of rebelling against your reclusive, rarely photographed famous uncle I suppose.

(That Spotify playlist is a great idea, do it!)

Matt DC, Wednesday, 12 August 2009 15:28 (fourteen years ago) link

Bigfoot's Fatso Judson namecheck was a nice touch, I thought.

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 12 August 2009 16:18 (fourteen years ago) link

"Bang Bang (My Baby Shot Me Down)" covered by The Bonzo Dog Band"

^ now i think about it, this doesn't actually exist, does it?

thomp, Wednesday, 12 August 2009 16:52 (fourteen years ago) link

Blog post about Pynchon and comics: http://www.walrusmagazine.com/blogs/2009/08/12/pynchon-and-comics/

Chuck_Tatum, Wednesday, 12 August 2009 17:00 (fourteen years ago) link

A friend of mine has a good story about meeting Pynchon. He was working at Kim's Video (RIP) and Pynchon came in to buy Simpsons DVDs with credit card.

ian, Wednesday, 12 August 2009 17:05 (fourteen years ago) link

The Bonzo cover does exist - it's included in this Spotify IV playlist I just put together: http://open.spotify.com/user/stevietee/playlist/3FMKzyb1IUEJJtGjVqaaZL

Stevie T, Wednesday, 12 August 2009 19:25 (fourteen years ago) link

niiiice

there is no there there (elmo argonaut), Wednesday, 12 August 2009 19:26 (fourteen years ago) link

good luck, USA

Brad C., Wednesday, 12 August 2009 19:30 (fourteen years ago) link

god i love the bonzo dog band.

ian, Wednesday, 12 August 2009 19:36 (fourteen years ago) link

I was amazed to discover, incidentally, that Dark Shadows actually existed!

Stevie T, Wednesday, 12 August 2009 19:37 (fourteen years ago) link

Oh, man, Dark Shadows was what we all ran home from school to watch in 1970.

^ old

Brad C., Wednesday, 12 August 2009 19:38 (fourteen years ago) link

"Japanese Replica Barbed Wire"

loooooooooooooool

The Love Song of J Alfred Pluot (Oilyrags), Wednesday, 12 August 2009 20:02 (fourteen years ago) link

god, the bonzos. thanks for that.

does anyone know the origin of it?

thomp, Wednesday, 12 August 2009 20:59 (fourteen years ago) link

huh. the wikipedia page for 'the doughnut in granny's greenhouse' has it a prv. unreleased bonus track on that album's cd remaster. on the other hand, it also claims

The phrase "the doughnut in granny's greenhouse" is British slang for lavatory.

thomp, Wednesday, 12 August 2009 21:00 (fourteen years ago) link

Original Soundtrack

Eazy, Thursday, 13 August 2009 06:30 (fourteen years ago) link

I'm such a Pynchon novice - read Lot 49 2-3 times like a decade ago and it was rough going, got only like 10 pages into V. after buying it (still have it), borrowed Against The Day from the library but only managed a few pages (the length was daunting and I had a bunch of other things I needed to read at that time).

Maybe I'll give this one a go.

I'M IN MIAMI, TRICK-OR-TREAT (Beatrix Kiddo), Thursday, 13 August 2009 13:00 (fourteen years ago) link

Pat Dubonnet

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Thursday, 13 August 2009 15:00 (fourteen years ago) link

“In conversation, Thomas Pynchon really did seem to know a lot about Godzilla.”

http://artsbeat.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/08/12/pynchon-and-the-new-yorker-pranksters-fess-up/

The Love Song of J Alfred Pluot (Oilyrags), Thursday, 13 August 2009 18:25 (fourteen years ago) link

Bought this last night, only read the first chapter before crashing out last night but it does seem like it'll be a quick, fun read as compared to most other pynchon i've read.

ian, Thursday, 13 August 2009 18:35 (fourteen years ago) link

I feel a John Garfield DVD spree coming on.

The Love Song of J Alfred Pluot (Oilyrags), Sunday, 16 August 2009 18:19 (fourteen years ago) link

is there a "vineland" thread anywhere? borrowed it from the library over the weekend since "inherent vice" hadn't arrives yet.

I'M IN MIAMI, TRICK-OR-TREAT (Beatrix Kiddo), Monday, 17 August 2009 15:16 (fourteen years ago) link

"arrived"

I'M IN MIAMI, TRICK-OR-TREAT (Beatrix Kiddo), Monday, 17 August 2009 15:17 (fourteen years ago) link

I just started it after finishing I.V.!

The Love Song of J Alfred Pluot (Oilyrags), Monday, 17 August 2009 16:14 (fourteen years ago) link

there's no one vineland thread, but it is mentioned on every other pynchon thread

thomp, Monday, 17 August 2009 16:29 (fourteen years ago) link

Dark Shadows appears to be torrentable - worth a go?

Tuncay Stryder (Matt DC), Tuesday, 18 August 2009 16:33 (fourteen years ago) link

this book was a total gas. funny and great and a quick read, too.

Mr. Que, Monday, 24 August 2009 16:43 (fourteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Very pleasantly surprised. Many of the reviews I read seemed unfavorable, so I thought I might not enjoy it, but it is definitely my favorite Pynchon so far. Makes me want to re-read Vineland, my first Pynchon. I picked up Against the Day at the library, but I don't think I will stick with it. Also picked up Mason & Dixon, another passed over Pynchon.

Virginia Plain, Wednesday, 9 September 2009 02:24 (fourteen years ago) link

passed over Pynchon

lol.

Leee, Thursday, 10 September 2009 02:57 (fourteen years ago) link

Scored the library copy of this the other day and will hope to give it a read soon...

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 10 September 2009 03:03 (fourteen years ago) link

The guy has gotten better at writing last sentences since GR.

Leee, Thursday, 10 September 2009 03:41 (fourteen years ago) link

Read it while on vacation, laughed my head off. Great fun and sad in all the right ways too. Pretty much the book that most leapt to mind while reading it was City of Quartz.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 21 September 2009 19:32 (fourteen years ago) link

[i]Makes me want to re-read Vineland</>

This is exactly what I am doing. I liked VL just fine the first time around but now it seems even better. I've never understood why it's not highly regarded. Is it just because it isn't GV2?

Ned Trifle II, Monday, 21 September 2009 21:15 (fourteen years ago) link

I mean GR2 of course.

Ned Trifle II, Monday, 21 September 2009 21:16 (fourteen years ago) link

one year passes...

that could be cool! i am actually reading this right now -- lots of funny stuff, though the plot itself seems to be getting in the way. love all the south bay content -- the book basically takes place right where I grew up!

tylerw, Thursday, 2 December 2010 20:23 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah, this could work really well.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 2 December 2010 20:38 (thirteen years ago) link

Blimey. Hope this actually sees the light of day.

Matt DC, Thursday, 2 December 2010 20:45 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah tbh, not holding my breath for it -- seems like a lot of variables that could easily fall through. does anyone know if pynchon has been opposed in the past to film adaptations, or is it that no one in their right mind has thought to try? other than the phenomenal V TV miniseries of course.

tylerw, Thursday, 2 December 2010 20:47 (thirteen years ago) link

Closest thing to my mind mind was the time he was supposed to "appear" on The John Larroquette Show (which fell through):

The show made several passing references to Pynchon, but the most specifically “Pynchonian” episode was Episode 11, airing in 1994 and titled “Newcomer.” Guest-starring David Crosby, the plot had Hemingway’s new girlfriend joining Alcoholics Anonymous and swearing off sex for six months. At one point, reference was made to a “Pynchon sighting,” describing the reclusive author as wearing a Roky Erickson T-shirt[...]

leTeReL (Leee), Friday, 3 December 2010 05:44 (thirteen years ago) link

wonder waht happened to pta's scientology film...

rip whiney g weingarten 03/11 never forget (history mayne), Friday, 3 December 2010 09:25 (thirteen years ago) link

Was excited until I saw RDJ's name.

specifically, the word talking (Ned Trifle II), Friday, 3 December 2010 09:35 (thirteen years ago) link

does anyone know if pynchon has been opposed in the past to film adaptations, or is it that no one in their right mind has thought to try?

Well the rights have been sold, right?

other than the phenomenal V TV miniseries of course.

Does this actually exist?

Matt DC, Friday, 3 December 2010 10:19 (thirteen years ago) link

think it's a joek - failed sci-fi thing

rip whiney g weingarten 03/11 never forget (history mayne), Friday, 3 December 2010 10:21 (thirteen years ago) link


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