Is It Wrong To Like Mike Oldfield?

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the album tracks too

frogbs, Friday, 29 March 2024 18:17 (one month ago) link

I'm enjoying the album but those newer bonus tracks aren't doing much for me, I'm just not feeling a pleasing structure with them and the style isn't that compelling except the bit that sounds like Zelda

Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 29 March 2024 18:24 (one month ago) link

This 2023 reissue includes the abandoned "Tubular Bells 4", which is pretty bad in both conception and execution. Oldfield apparently said he had been struck by inspiration after a long time pondering how to mimic the original record, but the results just take the opening bars and change a few notes around. I'd be embarrassed on behalf of an AI program if it tried to pass this off as a new piece of music.
It's sad that he would feel compelled to (continue to) ape past successes, and sadder that he would do it so badly, and saddest that this is apparently his final musical statement. I guess the only good thing about the whole business is that he abandoned it after only recording 8 minutes.

Halfway there but for you, Monday, 1 April 2024 02:22 (one month ago) link

Is it really that upsetting?

I mean, I love him but Oldfield has been aping Tubular Bells for fifty years – and I’m not sure that 8 minute segment is any more or less inspired than any of the two sequels, orchestrations, live performances, edits, or repackagings (I’m not a particularly big fan of the original). Which I guess is a way of saying, they all kind of sound like AI, particularly with their inversions/reversals/and retrogrades of the main theme.

If anything, I’d say TB4 is kind of an appropriate way to end things …

Naive Teen Idol, Monday, 1 April 2024 20:59 (one month ago) link

Convoluted though his career path was, I think he was always pushing towards trying something new until he got free of Virgin, even when he was revisiting prior works. The live "Tubular Bells" on Exposed is quite a bold rhythmic revision of a record that was only six years old at that point. After Tubular Bells II (which I've only experienced watching the show on TV, not on record) he obviously became a little obsessive about revisiting his earlier work, (whether in search of commercial success or as some private aesthetic quest I don't know), but this situation really feels like he's been defeated - by his music, by his muse, by his public (assuming that a large section of his audience only pay attention when there's a bell on his album covers).

Halfway there but for you, Tuesday, 2 April 2024 00:33 (one month ago) link

Oldfield is still only 71 – is this really the last thing he’ll ever do?

Apropos of nothing, this Incantations performance from the Exposed live album is just terrific: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yF3YWq2w42g

Naive Teen Idol, Monday, 8 April 2024 14:33 (one month ago) link

His last album was seven years ago, and his label announced his retirement, which I suppose isn't definitive.

Halfway there but for you, Monday, 8 April 2024 14:46 (one month ago) link

I thought his post-Incantations pop records were pretty good - QE2, File Miles Out, and Crises make up a nice trilogy in my mind. it deteriorated pretty quickly after that.

Amarok from 1990 is probably on par with his classic records; it's close in approach to Tubular Bells, but a lot more sarcastic and weird. I think that's the point where he got fed up with the business and just went his own way...which is pretty exciting, until it became clear that "his own way" was mostly just re-doing Tubular Bells a bunch and leaning hard into New Age. I've heard some of his post-Amarok albums, not really interested in hearing any of them again. But the Ommadawn sequel from 2017 was quite decent. If that's his last one, so be it.

frogbs, Monday, 8 April 2024 15:08 (one month ago) link

Exposed is a fantastic record

Maresn3st, Monday, 8 April 2024 15:30 (one month ago) link

I got one for £2 a couple weeks ago.

Not played yet...

Mark G, Monday, 8 April 2024 19:21 (one month ago) link

his solo on "May I?" on that Kevin Ayers-Nico-John Cale-Eno June 1, 1974 live album is one of my very favorite moments in all music

Fourteen years late, but that appears to be played by Ollie Halsall, not Oldfield.

(which tracks -- I don't think it sounds much like MO, it's much more fluid and busier)

Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, 10 April 2024 15:03 (four weeks ago) link


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