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lol

budo jeru, Tuesday, 23 April 2024 15:36 (one week ago) link

my local shop has the same problem, anything priced $75 and up they have real trouble selling despite how many people are "interested".

Probably more appropriate for 'post a controversial music opinion', but I think any multi-disc album that costs more than $40 should also be released in separate sets, "Use Your Illusion"-style

Front-loaded albums are musical gerrymandering (Prefecture), Tuesday, 23 April 2024 22:49 (one week ago) link

Or, at least offer us a 33.3-rpm version of non-double LPs on a single disc (or 2 if it's in the 90ish min range), instead of padding the cost (and annoyance factor) with the 45-rpm trend

Front-loaded albums are musical gerrymandering (Prefecture), Tuesday, 23 April 2024 23:04 (one week ago) link

eh, I don't think having a 2xLP and a 3xLP version of the same album out there is really a great idea. I think the Chemical Brothers' last album did this, which was weird because the album was only 47 minutes long. the 3xLP doesn't even have any extra tracks, one side is like 5 minutes

I do think bands need to be more willing to shuffle tracks around in order to accomodate the vinyl split rather than put a 42 minute album on two LPs. AnCo's Strawberry Jam is one of those, I think they wanted For Reverend Green and Fireworks to be on the same side (which makes sense) but they could've done it by changing the order. might annoy the purists but whatever.

frogbs, Tuesday, 23 April 2024 23:25 (one week ago) link

i just buy CDs if something is long. i don't tend to listen to an entire double album in one sitting and never a triple album. i remember in the late 90s and early 2000s when i would buy rap albums that were 3 LPs and i basically never played them. thus, the humble CD. i remember when that cool Trad Gras Och Stenar box came out and the vinyl version was around a hundred bucks and the CD set was 20! i never looked back. and tracks weren't cut in half either.

scott seward, Tuesday, 23 April 2024 23:34 (one week ago) link

^^^ this, I refuse to buy vinyl with split tracks, hate it so much. just gimme a CD.

I painted my teeth (sleeve), Wednesday, 24 April 2024 00:09 (one week ago) link

I guess I didn't explain my idea very well: for albs that would fit on one record, but are released on double vinyl (prob because they get the unnecessary 45 rpm treatment), figure out a way to put them on a single disc for those who don't want the 45 rpm edition, and for 4+ LP releases priced at $75+, split them in half

Front-loaded albums are musical gerrymandering (Prefecture), Wednesday, 24 April 2024 01:05 (one week ago) link

or, you know... don't do any of that at all and release it as a pono player exclusive, as the real rsd gods intended.

interstellar anthropologist+music philosopher, (Austin), Wednesday, 24 April 2024 01:40 (one week ago) link

also, for some relevant discourse-
fleet foxes, like the assholes they are, actually did follow the spirit of rsd and released a vinyl exclusive live album. i want to hear it! haven't bothered with fan uploads or youtube, but it looks mighty healthy: https://www.discogs.com/master/3463574-Fleet-Foxes-Live-On-Boston-Harbor

interstellar anthropologist+music philosopher, (Austin), Wednesday, 24 April 2024 01:42 (one week ago) link

there are some audiophile pressings of Genesis albums that just came out at 45rpm...do I want a 4 disc Lamb? fuck no. Likewise I do not want Supper's Ready split over two sides, wtf.

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Wednesday, 24 April 2024 01:44 (one week ago) link

I assume with the chemical brothers (and other dance stuff) it gets split across multiples to make djing easier? Wider grooves, easier to cue? Excuse me if this is dumb or obvious

brimstead, Wednesday, 24 April 2024 01:44 (one week ago) link

well in the old school economy, 45 pressings were generally louder and, therefore, would sound p fucken spiff in the club sound system. but that was like... dance music that's supposed to go BOOMBOOMBOOM with the bass and whatnot. chemical bros makes some sense, but i don't understand the treatment for stuff like, say, genesis. you're not getting much of an upgrade between the stellar vinyl reissues from about a decade ago and the tiny bit of increased loudness on the expnaded 45 pressings.

interstellar anthropologist+music philosopher, (Austin), Wednesday, 24 April 2024 01:50 (one week ago) link

yeah I understand why the Chems would do that but still you can do 46 minutes on a 2xLP @ 45 RPM, no reason to release a 3xLP version at the same time

I do like stuff like the Underworld Pearl's Girl 3x12" where there's a separate track on each side, but that's when vinyl was a lot cheaper...it cost me like six bucks

frogbs, Wednesday, 24 April 2024 01:55 (one week ago) link

(btw, i'm frantically searching for an old wordpress/blogspot post from the mid-2010s where the dude sought out full lengths pressed at 45. there was a lot of stuff from the 80s and a lot of british pop music. from what i remember he was only interested in having lps pressed at 45 and didn't care about the music; all he wanted was the thing. he was way ahead of his time.)

interstellar anthropologist+music philosopher, (Austin), Wednesday, 24 April 2024 02:08 (one week ago) link

did the 45 rpm lp thing start with chris cutler's early eighties re records releases? i think they're the only examples i've heard (& they do sound good)

no lime tangier, Wednesday, 24 April 2024 03:26 (one week ago) link

Well, Pil's "Metal Box"...

Mark G, Wednesday, 24 April 2024 06:36 (one week ago) link

I bought a 2x45rpm reissue of New Hope For The Wretched by the Plasmatics (second hand so it wasn't expensive) and regretted not just waiting to find a single LP version. that is not a record that benefits from the 45rpm treatment

Colonel Poo, Wednesday, 24 April 2024 07:55 (one week ago) link

I bought a 2x45rpm reissue of New Hope For The Wretched by the Plasmatics (second hand so it wasn't expensive) and regretted not just waiting to find a single LP version. that is not a record that benefits from the 45rpm treatment

Colonel Poo, Wednesday, 24 April 2024 07:55 (one week ago) link

oops

Colonel Poo, Wednesday, 24 April 2024 07:56 (one week ago) link

The first one I came across was the Cocteau Twins' Victorialand in 1986.

bored by endless ecstasy (anagram), Wednesday, 24 April 2024 08:28 (one week ago) link

Klaus Schulze's Innovative Communication label put out 45rpm LPs for a while in the early 80s, including Popol Vuh's Sei Still, Wisse Ich Bin. Don't recall if it sounded significantly better than it would have at 33 tbh.

prog ain't no religious cult (Matt #2), Wednesday, 24 April 2024 10:12 (one week ago) link

it was big in japan in the late 70s/early 80s. for classical and jazz. wider grooves equaling louder/better sound. some sound amazing. that whole digital on vinyl pre-CD thing. some amazing 10-inch jazz reissues at 45 rpm. i mean anyone who has heard good disco 45 rpm 12-inches from the 70s knows how mindblowing they can sound. i love 70s rock 12-inches at 45. punk. post-punk. sex pistols on 12-inch rage pretty hard. but if i think of it i haven't had a ton of full albums from the 80s at 45. some though.

scott seward, Wednesday, 24 April 2024 11:49 (one week ago) link

Cabaret Voltaire's "2x45" seems like an obvious example. 1982 I think?

Bernard Quidbins (NickB), Wednesday, 24 April 2024 12:11 (one week ago) link

style council's cost of loving + xtc's oranges and lemons are a couple more that come to mind...

interstellar anthropologist+music philosopher, (Austin), Wednesday, 24 April 2024 12:58 (one week ago) link

some anti-fomo/rsd propaganda to proselytize future generations. this used to be a common sight: kickass <$10 reissues of forgotten catalogue titles. no fanfare, no sales pitch, just a good deal on a good album-
https://i.ibb.co/C1XWY2G/20240426-114710.jpg

interstellar anthropologist+music philosopher, (Austin), Saturday, 27 April 2024 16:35 (six days ago) link

wow that image got mangled, hope this is better--
https://i.postimg.cc/xjXyzBKZ/20240426-114710.jpg

interstellar anthropologist+music philosopher, (Austin), Saturday, 27 April 2024 16:37 (six days ago) link

my favourite sun ra!!

Bernard Quidbins (NickB), Saturday, 27 April 2024 16:39 (six days ago) link

yeah, seems like just yesterday all those affordable reissues were fully stocked

sknybrg, Saturday, 27 April 2024 17:01 (six days ago) link

did the 45 rpm lp thing start with chris cutler's early eighties re records releases

Klaus Schulze maybe did it just before that with his Innovative Communication label's releases.

stirmonster, Sunday, 28 April 2024 02:53 (five days ago) link


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