Dido - c/d?

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I always really rated her tbh, but now when she constantly plugs bands like the darkness, I have to wonder. I think all of the day time bands are more conformist, certianly on radio1. Sara C0x plays some hip hop & dance, but nothing that's not on the playlist or in the charts. J0 Whiley loves bands, that everyone seems to love. Mark & Lard will always be great imo & I love the way they take the piss out of new songs & are honest if they like a new song. You believe them because you know how great & varied their music tastes are. Chris M0yles, well he has the worst music taste. I remember hearing him completely slate Missy Elliot, i mean wtf, does this guy know anything about music at all?

― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Monday, 9 February 2004 12:42 (twenty years ago) link

x-post - response to Mark.

― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Monday, 9 February 2004 12:42 (twenty years ago) link

Julio if it bothers you so much I'm sure Mark won't mind if you go and start exactly the same thread on ILM.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Monday, 9 February 2004 12:43 (twenty years ago) link

Julio, be my guest! I'm sure you and your fellow music lovers will find many and varied fascinating comments and debates arise.

― Markelby (Mark C), Monday, 9 February 2004 12:46 (twenty years ago) link

Jo Whiley - has she stopped fancying herself as Voice of the Alternative, then? People like her and Mark Goodier who can just turn on and off enthusiasm for a genre etc. at will - they have no place in any kind of specialist music.

Is there any suggestion that Jo Whiley has stopped liking indie music just because she likes Dido too? Is this a sixth form common room from 1987?

― N. (nickdastoor), Monday, 9 February 2004 12:47 (twenty years ago) link

yr 'total absence of rage' is not 'snippy' at all right?

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Monday, 9 February 2004 12:50 (twenty years ago) link

Jo Whiley has a daughter called India. That's how credible she is.

― MikeyG (MikeyG), Monday, 9 February 2004 12:52 (twenty years ago) link

India than thou!

― N. (nickdastoor), Monday, 9 February 2004 12:53 (twenty years ago) link

Should have called her Kylie.

― MikeyG (MikeyG), Monday, 9 February 2004 12:53 (twenty years ago) link

Actually if her middle names really were 'than thou' that would be totally awesome.

― N. (nickdastoor), Monday, 9 February 2004 12:54 (twenty years ago) link

Julio, ppl are right to be scared, it's a fucking freak-fest out there on ILM.

Enrique OTM

and I'd rather avoid either crushing condescension or a series of snippy "look at this thread" answers.

Mark so OTM it isn't even funny. ILM is just...weird.

Jesus, multiple crossposts, you guys are typing waaay too fast today

― Matt (Matt), Monday, 9 February 2004 12:54 (twenty years ago) link

I do like J0 Whiley, but due to the nature of her radio prog she cannot play the type of music that she once might have played on her prog with steve lamacq.

― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Monday, 9 February 2004 12:54 (twenty years ago) link

NO SELL OUT

― N. (nickdastoor), Monday, 9 February 2004 12:56 (twenty years ago) link

Steve Lamacq is a good example of what happens if you listen to too much indie music. Lack of vitamin C mainly.

― MikeyG (MikeyG), Monday, 9 February 2004 12:56 (twenty years ago) link

no he gets vit c from the cider!!

― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Monday, 9 February 2004 12:59 (twenty years ago) link

I think he def. needs to drink more cider then. Last time I saw him he looked like Gollum.

― Ricardo (RickyT), Monday, 9 February 2004 13:17 (twenty years ago) link

he has the nose/chin snog action approaching fast too.

― chris (chris), Monday, 9 February 2004 13:18 (twenty years ago) link

Ewwww indie face implosion!

(Like the Jon Spencer Blues Explosion only greasier)

― Liz :x (Liz :x), Monday, 9 February 2004 13:21 (twenty years ago) link

and whinier

― Matt (Matt), Monday, 9 February 2004 13:22 (twenty years ago) link

She drives me bonkers with her utter blandness. I've had oatmeal and wheat germ with more kick. Boiled water has more flavor. She has absolutely NO personality, it's like she's making her name do all the work for her.
The only interesting thing about her is she had Angel in her last video, and I'm sure that wasn't her idea. What are her songs even about? Are they about anything? I can hum the tune for white flag but I'm fucked if I know what she's singing about.

― Catty (Catty), Monday, 9 February 2004 13:39 (twenty years ago) link

Well, basically she's finished with some d00d but now she wants back, but he seems to have a chick, or maybe is just like 'step off,' and she isn't backing down, I think.

― Enrique (Enrique), Monday, 9 February 2004 13:41 (twenty years ago) link

Mary's Gone to India is about her mate Mary going to India. She nicks Mary's boyfriend. Well, she alludes to anyway.

She also misses the opportunity of rhyming Mary with hairy. Oversight, I guess.

― MikeyG (MikeyG), Monday, 9 February 2004 13:59 (twenty years ago) link

How about scary?

― Pete (Pete), Monday, 9 February 2004 14:02 (twenty years ago) link

Pessary?

― Alfie (Alfie), Monday, 9 February 2004 14:03 (twenty years ago) link

The boyfriend is called Jim. From what I can see, purely for the purpose of this rhyme:

"Jim's in the garden, he looks like Bin Laden, but without the beard."

― MikeyG (MikeyG), Monday, 9 February 2004 14:06 (twenty years ago) link

Mary's In India Lyrics

Danny is lonely cos Mary's in India now
She said she'd call but that was three weeks ago
She left all her things well, her books and her letters from him
And as the sun rises on Mary, it sets on him

Just dance, just drink and just see the things I probably never get a chance to see

Danny's not eating, he's drinking and sleeping in
I saw him last night at a party, he's definitely thin
He says he's happy, he looked pretty good but I think
That as the sun rises on Mary, it sets on him
Just dance, just drink and just see the things I probably never get the chance to say

Danny came over last night and I cooked for him
We talked about you Mary and how much we loved you still
He told me he's packed up your books and your letters and things
And as the sun sets on Mary, it's rising on him
And we danced and we drank and I've seen some things
you probably never got the chance to see
Don't worry, Mary cos I'm taking care of Danny
And he's taking care of me

― Pete (Pete), Monday, 9 February 2004 14:09 (twenty years ago) link

Maybe it works better 'in context'. Like my g/f and I died laughing reading some Kate Bush lyrics yesterday, but we still dig the songs.

― Enrique (Enrique), Monday, 9 February 2004 14:11 (twenty years ago) link

Truely heartbreaking. Danny is so lonely.

― MikeyG (MikeyG), Monday, 9 February 2004 14:14 (twenty years ago) link

(I've been trying to add a Z axis, so we can add another variable but it just becomes unfathomable.)

http://ilxor.petfield.com/images/bland_graph_3d.gif

― Alfie (Alfie), Monday, 9 February 2004 14:14 (twenty years ago) link

brilliant!

― Enrique (Enrique), Monday, 9 February 2004 14:15 (twenty years ago) link

Ah but whither Beverly Knight? Or for that matter, Betty Boo?

― Matt (Matt), Monday, 9 February 2004 14:18 (twenty years ago) link

Where is r&b/urban on this. Surely that should be one of the axes.

― Pete (Pete), Monday, 9 February 2004 14:19 (twenty years ago) link

Actually, Alicia Keys is so necesary here.

― Enrique (Enrique), Monday, 9 February 2004 14:19 (twenty years ago) link

Best clam down though, or all we'll end up with is some nifty cross-hatching with the words...ii ..ino..u.e vaguely visible

― Matt (Matt), Monday, 9 February 2004 14:26 (twenty years ago) link

Ok, suggestions for the axes please.
Average age of target audience (as Steve put it: AOR to YOR)

― Alfie (Alfie), Monday, 9 February 2004 14:28 (twenty years ago) link

X = number of appearances in Daily Telegraph

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Monday, 9 February 2004 14:32 (twenty years ago) link

x= poison of choice, heroin on left axis to a cup of tea on right
y=likelihood of being played in a Dorothy Perkins changing

― Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Monday, 9 February 2004 14:37 (twenty years ago) link

Ha, should be...

x= poison of choice; heroin on left axis to a cup of tea on right

y=likelihood of being played in a Dorothy Perkins changing room

― Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Monday, 9 February 2004 14:37 (twenty years ago) link

These graphs are amazing.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 9 February 2004 14:38 (twenty years ago) link

z=likelihood of being in a Dorothy Perkins Changing room

― ken c (ken c), Monday, 9 February 2004 14:38 (twenty years ago) link

curse you all, I've got white flag going round and round in my head, and I fear I'm humming snippets out loud in the office. Thank god we've got workmen in drilling so no-one can hear me.

― Vicky (Vicky), Monday, 9 February 2004 14:43 (twenty years ago) link

Graph smarph. Back the original question for a moment. Let's agree, for the purposes of the argument, that Dido is indeed bland. I do find it really odd how people seem to get more wound up by bland things than by in your face irritating ones. How anyone could get angry about Dido is beyond my ken.

― N. (nickdastoor), Monday, 9 February 2004 14:44 (twenty years ago) link

The bitch ran over my cat.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Monday, 9 February 2004 14:45 (twenty years ago) link

She stole my best girlie

(x-post)

― Matt (Matt), Monday, 9 February 2004 14:46 (twenty years ago) link

Indeed. I have 'White Flag' in my head right now, not for the4 first time, and it really isn't that fuckin' bad, compared with other long-term stuck in my head songs (recently 'PIMP' and 'Shut Up', unfortunately for me).

― Enrique (Enrique), Monday, 9 February 2004 14:46 (twenty years ago) link

The only way it makes sense to me is if you're some redfaced PASSION obsessive.

― N. (nickdastoor), Monday, 9 February 2004 14:47 (twenty years ago) link

beyond my ken.

Is it also beyond our Ken?

I have flipping Scissor Sisters and that godawful 'Somebody to Love' cover in my head now. From Saturday night watching crap pop videos. Aaaaaargh I can still see the stupid electric eels in the Scissor Sisters video.

― Liz :x (Liz :x), Monday, 9 February 2004 14:49 (twenty years ago) link

i was going to add the omitted line 'now Mary's got the shits after traipsing round Calcutta' but then i accidentally kicked the reset button on my PC with my right foot

― stevem (blueski), Monday, 9 February 2004 14:57 (twenty years ago) link

'might have been the ghee they use instead of butter'

― Alfie (Alfie), Monday, 9 February 2004 14:59 (twenty years ago) link

"As the soon rises, on Mary, she fouls her pants"

― MikeyG (MikeyG), Monday, 9 February 2004 15:07 (twenty years ago) link

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