― chuck, Wednesday, 6 August 2003 20:30 (twenty years ago) link
The New York Review Of Books? Harper's? The Atlantic? The Believer? or you mean music. um, nobody?
― scott seward, Wednesday, 6 August 2003 20:33 (twenty years ago) link
― o. nate (onate), Wednesday, 6 August 2003 20:34 (twenty years ago) link
But speaking of surfboards, if we were all required to write everything in limerick form, I might develop new and hitherto unknown talents, but overall you wouldn't be getting the best out of me.
There once was an album named CaesarsThat nary had mention of skeezersWhat should I say next?I can't even flextYou see! this sucks! jeepers! or jeezers.
So, it has to be the right form.
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Wednesday, 6 August 2003 20:49 (twenty years ago) link
So? I think The Village Voice looks fat in those jeans.
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 6 August 2003 20:51 (twenty years ago) link
― nnnh oh oh nnnh nnnh oh (James Blount), Wednesday, 6 August 2003 20:52 (twenty years ago) link
* and yeah, sotc, but that's more 'live reviews + news'.
― nnnh oh oh nnnh nnnh oh (James Blount), Wednesday, 6 August 2003 20:54 (twenty years ago) link
― nnnh oh oh nnnh nnnh oh (James Blount), Wednesday, 6 August 2003 20:55 (twenty years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Wednesday, 6 August 2003 21:01 (twenty years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Wednesday, 6 August 2003 21:23 (twenty years ago) link
― nnnh oh oh nnnh nnnh oh (James Blount), Wednesday, 6 August 2003 21:30 (twenty years ago) link
― nnnh oh oh nnnh nnnh oh (James Blount), Wednesday, 6 August 2003 21:31 (twenty years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Wednesday, 6 August 2003 21:45 (twenty years ago) link
― Paul (scifisoul), Thursday, 7 August 2003 00:29 (twenty years ago) link
― Chris P, Thursday, 7 August 2003 02:13 (twenty years ago) link
i bitched about this elsewhere, but i can't honestly, in 2003, in america's current uh cultural climate, think that word counts dropping anywhere, anymore, are a good thing.
also, it was a really nice feeling the two times i basically had the frontpage of the voice section to myself. < /selfish>
― jess (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 7 August 2003 03:21 (twenty years ago) link
― nnnh oh oh nnnh nnnh oh (James Blount), Thursday, 7 August 2003 03:22 (twenty years ago) link
― jess (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 7 August 2003 03:23 (twenty years ago) link
― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 7 August 2003 03:27 (twenty years ago) link
kogan's contortions review: priceless.
and so on.
― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 7 August 2003 03:29 (twenty years ago) link
― s1utsky (slutsky), Thursday, 7 August 2003 03:30 (twenty years ago) link
― s1utsky (slutsky), Thursday, 7 August 2003 03:31 (twenty years ago) link
― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 7 August 2003 03:32 (twenty years ago) link
― s1utsky (slutsky), Thursday, 7 August 2003 03:34 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 7 August 2003 03:41 (twenty years ago) link
― Phantroll, Thursday, 7 August 2003 03:45 (twenty years ago) link
(i wrote an equally long screed elsewhere, but it never showed up)
― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Thursday, 7 August 2003 03:46 (twenty years ago) link
― Phantroll, Thursday, 7 August 2003 03:47 (twenty years ago) link
― s1utsky (slutsky), Thursday, 7 August 2003 03:50 (twenty years ago) link
― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 7 August 2003 03:53 (twenty years ago) link
― kelly denison-cole (dustjacket), Thursday, 7 August 2003 04:33 (twenty years ago) link
― kelly denison-cole (dustjacket), Thursday, 7 August 2003 04:34 (twenty years ago) link
― kelly denison-cole (dustjacket), Thursday, 7 August 2003 04:35 (twenty years ago) link
― kelly denison-cole (dustjacket), Thursday, 7 August 2003 04:38 (twenty years ago) link
On another note, I'm sad to see that paycuts for the Giddins and the Xgaus is even on the table. Shows, to me anyway, how impossible this goddamn Dubya economy is right now ... art, talent and the advancement of culture don't mean shit when only a few people get all the perks and there's no incentive for the powers-that-be to give a shit about the contributions of their workers. Keep fighting the good fight, VV folks. Hi Chuck and Chris P.!
― Chris O'Connor, Thursday, 7 August 2003 06:45 (twenty years ago) link
Frank, People have to buy Time Out NY right, while the Voice is free and available online? Will these changes bring in more Time Out NY readers or advertisers???
― Steve Kiviat (Steve K), Thursday, 7 August 2003 14:36 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 7 August 2003 14:41 (twenty years ago) link
― Bob Shaw (Bob Shaw), Thursday, 7 August 2003 14:45 (twenty years ago) link
To bring Simon Reynolds into this(Oh No! not again!) I see he's been raving on his blog about all the blogs he reads, and how he doesn't have time to read music features in newspapers and magazines (even if he could find music magazines he'd like)...
― Steve Kiviat (Steve K), Thursday, 7 August 2003 15:40 (twenty years ago) link
― Jamie Smith, Thursday, 7 August 2003 15:55 (twenty years ago) link
― David. (Cozen), Thursday, 7 August 2003 16:19 (twenty years ago) link
― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 7 August 2003 16:33 (twenty years ago) link
Jaw......drops.
― mei (mei), Thursday, 7 August 2003 18:32 (twenty years ago) link
― Bob Shaw (Bob Shaw), Thursday, 7 August 2003 18:34 (twenty years ago) link
The point is: Different subjects need different treatment; different writers work better using different forms; different people have different skills. If an entire profession shifts to a single format and a single writing style, then most subjects won't get treated, or they'll get treated badly; most writers won't get used, or they'll get used badly.
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Thursday, 7 August 2003 19:43 (twenty years ago) link
I think most albums only deserve about 250 (if that, if anything I want to see more GOOD pithy three sentence reviews - I like jokes - than GOOD epic reviews - you're either gonna sell me on this album in 1000 words or you're not gonna sell me on it) words anyway, and at least this year I'm a big fan of brevity. So while it's sad that a good mag is creating more rules about what it's capable of, I can't really get too hung up about this. If you're not satisfied with saying only A THOUSAND WORDS about an album, write a book about them on the web! That's first place anybody looking for a million words about your fave cult artist is gonna go.
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 7 August 2003 19:58 (twenty years ago) link
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 7 August 2003 20:02 (twenty years ago) link
― nnnh oh oh nnnh nnnh oh (James Blount), Thursday, 7 August 2003 20:03 (twenty years ago) link
If you don't know what I'm yammering about --
http://www.arthurmag.com
Jay Babcock, Editor
― Jay Babcock, Thursday, 7 August 2003 20:06 (twenty years ago) link
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 7 August 2003 20:08 (twenty years ago) link
― Mark Rich@rdson, Sunday, 11 March 2007 20:15 (seventeen years ago) link
― Jiminy Krokus, Sunday, 11 March 2007 21:22 (seventeen years ago) link
― m coleman, Sunday, 11 March 2007 21:23 (seventeen years ago) link
― m coleman, Sunday, 11 March 2007 21:26 (seventeen years ago) link
― Jiminy Krokus, Sunday, 11 March 2007 21:30 (seventeen years ago) link
― Jiminy Krokus, Sunday, 11 March 2007 21:32 (seventeen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Sunday, 11 March 2007 22:49 (seventeen years ago) link
― m coleman, Sunday, 11 March 2007 22:56 (seventeen years ago) link
― Beatrix Kiddo, Monday, 12 March 2007 21:58 (seventeen years ago) link
Much much much smaller tabloid format on the way.
― forksclovetofu, Wednesday, 23 April 2008 20:36 (sixteen years ago) link
"kevin" still seems like a total douchebag!
― omar little, Wednesday, 23 April 2008 20:42 (sixteen years ago) link
just wading thru rss from over new years -- hentoff is out? wow
― goole, Friday, 2 January 2009 22:20 (fifteen years ago) link
!!
― HOOSytime steenman (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Friday, 2 January 2009 22:46 (fifteen years ago) link
Wow. Trica Romano wrote the following:
http://www.popandpolitics.com/2008/12/30/village-voice-fires-three-in-editorial-including-nat-hentoff/
This just in: Adding to the media meltdown, my former alma mater, the Village Voice, just laid off three more in editorial. [Full disclosure, I was laid off myself for "matters of taste" in 2007]. Among those laid off is Nat Hentoff, who’s been at the paper since 1958, writing about jazz, and later, civil liberties in his weekly long-running column. Fashion writer Lynn Yaeger, who has worked with the paper over 15 30 years, starting in classifieds, before moving into editorial, was laid off, along with staff writer Chloe Hilliard, who was hired under the current editor, Tony Ortega in 2007. We know, we keep saying this, but we continue to be amazed that there is anyone left to lay off.
― curmudgeon, Saturday, 3 January 2009 04:01 (fifteen years ago) link
Tricia
― curmudgeon, Saturday, 3 January 2009 04:02 (fifteen years ago) link
Hentoff? Jesus shit.
― If Timi Yuro would be still alive, most other singers could shut up, Saturday, 3 January 2009 05:21 (fifteen years ago) link
With Frank Kogan, more is more, and truncating me is never a good idea.Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Wednesday, 6 August 2003
― the pinefox, Saturday, 3 January 2009 21:41 (fifteen years ago) link
so this is basically a porn site now?
― goole, Saturday, 27 February 2010 16:43 (fourteen years ago) link
i pretty much fritter away 10 minutes of every day clicking on a NSFW photo gallery on the Voice site, i'm not gonna lie
― zsockster (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 27 February 2010 16:48 (fourteen years ago) link
i have no idea where these parties happen or who gets invited to them
not a huge fan of the new page layout
― ksh, Saturday, 27 February 2010 16:49 (fourteen years ago) link
i havent been by the site in a while but it looks like theyve got like 2-3 good writers left and a whole lot of fifty-photo slideshows of parties where chicks flash the camera?
― max, Saturday, 27 February 2010 17:41 (fourteen years ago) link
so i guess its kind of like vice magazine now?
http://www.80stees.com/images/products/Anchorman_Camp_Kid_Sports-T-link.jpg
― epic board man (history mayne), Saturday, 27 February 2010 17:43 (fourteen years ago) link
hey, village voice, you're right.. i am stupid !
― tramp steamer, Sunday, 28 February 2010 04:20 (fourteen years ago) link
The Village Voice thinks you like tits, is probably right
― dora the explaro (some dude), Sunday, 28 February 2010 06:44 (fourteen years ago) link
So, I guess this is official now. (Fwiw, I've secretly known about Rob leaving for a couple weeks, but didn't know Maura was coming in until three minutes ago.)
http://blogs.villagevoice.com/music/2011/03/please_welcome_10.php
― xhuxk, Monday, 14 March 2011 20:02 (thirteen years ago) link
you got scooped on another voice thread 47 minutes ago chuck!
― scott seward, Monday, 14 March 2011 20:09 (thirteen years ago) link
okay not scooped.
anyhoo, congrats maura!
if congrats are in order. they are, right? probably!
― scott seward, Monday, 14 March 2011 20:10 (thirteen years ago) link
ok this article being published on a VV site, given what they've done to freelancers is pretty. fucking. rich.
http://www.citypages.com/music/can-professional-concert-photography-survive-7446275
― kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 2 July 2015 14:11 (eight years ago) link
(or whatever they call the VV/new times whatever clusterfuck now)
Yep. As for one little aspect of the article, the below is kinda the same issue in my town. Punk and indie rock shows get documented on local media, but go-go, r'n'b, jazz, and myriad international styles exist only in instagram land among friends.
There are so many shows going on in this town where nobody is shooting.
― curmudgeon, Thursday, 2 July 2015 16:03 (eight years ago) link
city pages got sold in mayhttp://www.startribune.com/star-tribune-buys-city-pages/302763201/
― maura, Thursday, 2 July 2015 17:28 (eight years ago) link
Oh yeah well I hope they've stopped stealing local band photos of ppl flickr accounts and running then w/o paying or giving credit
― kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 2 July 2015 17:40 (eight years ago) link
Hilary Hughes who was their 2015 music editor is no longer listed on the masthead. Now they just list a "culture editor"
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 5 April 2016 13:16 (eight years ago) link
i remember her announcing on twitter that she was leaving VV maybe...a month ago? i didn't see anything about looking for or announcing a new music ed, wouldn't be surprised if that position was being eliminated.
― "Robots are sexy as shit" - Big Sean (some dude), Tuesday, 5 April 2016 14:04 (eight years ago) link
ah, fucki liked Hilary.
― ulysses, Tuesday, 5 April 2016 17:49 (eight years ago) link
x-post - yep now I see it. She tweeted Feb. 17th that it was her last day at the Voice.
― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 6 April 2016 16:18 (eight years ago) link
http://www.capitalnewyork.com/article/media/2016/05/8599589/village-voice-hires-new-publisher-ahead-extensive-relaunch
― ulysses, Friday, 20 May 2016 17:15 (seven years ago) link
well, fuck.https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/22/nyregion/village-voice-to-end-print-publication.html
― Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Tuesday, 22 August 2017 19:41 (six years ago) link