I feel like if anyone is exploiting insecure potential applicants, it's the tier 3 and 4 law schools
― iatee, Thursday, 27 August 2009 00:37 (fourteen years ago) link
i dunno, thinking about that
― permanent response lopp (harbl), Thursday, 27 August 2009 00:44 (fourteen years ago) link
i mean, they all are, for sure. but i was thinking more of what was upthread about mega-overachievers being disappointed than just plain "this is my ticket to success" stuff, which is also there, and is also bad.
― permanent response lopp (harbl), Thursday, 27 August 2009 00:47 (fourteen years ago) link
so glad I decided not to apply this year, and am looking at lol humanities phd programs instead
― tony dayo (dyao), Thursday, 27 August 2009 00:48 (fourteen years ago) link
ah yeah what you said at 7:34 probably xxp
― permanent response lopp (harbl), Thursday, 27 August 2009 00:49 (fourteen years ago) link
(just for the record I really didn't mean to suggest anyone's motives anywhere are "bad" -- only that it's super-interesting to me the way different pursuits sometimes self-select for people with wildly different expectations of themselves and the world)
― nabisco, Thursday, 27 August 2009 00:50 (fourteen years ago) link
hey, if I have the opportunity and mental capacity to do well at a top law school
I knew someone who applied (and got in) to a bunch of tier 1 law schools last year, and I once grilled her about why she wanted to go to law school, and after hemming ad hawing basically ended up saying "well I think law school would best take advantage of my skillset."
I also pointed her to the ILX thread about law school being a pit of hell and she said "uhh, what is this place"
― tony dayo (dyao), Thursday, 27 August 2009 00:55 (fourteen years ago) link
people who go to law school because they can't figure out anything else to do for an office job are basically terrible
― El Tomboto, Thursday, 27 August 2009 13:19 (fourteen years ago) link
(having thought about it at a couple of points in life and been lucky enough to get to do something completely different)
― El Tomboto, Thursday, 27 August 2009 13:20 (fourteen years ago) link
maybe it's just because there's not enough exposure in your early twenties to what you can do in a different lane - law school is just so generic "I'm gifted but more like with words not math or science so much"
additionally from personal experience all the engineering/hard sciences oriented kids I hung out with were really really really smart, if I had spent more time around the middle of the bell curve engineering students I might not have been so intimidated by everything? Then again, I purposefully avoided math whenever the opportunity presented itself at that age
― El Tomboto, Thursday, 27 August 2009 13:30 (fourteen years ago) link
in talking to my friends who went to law school, i think i would have actually really liked the education--as a "gifted w/words not numbers" guy--but the thought of actually being a lawyer is awful.
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 27 August 2009 13:33 (fourteen years ago) link
what is the lawyer equivalent for science majors/phds?
― caek, Thursday, 27 August 2009 15:46 (fourteen years ago) link
My physics Ph.D. friends were all pushed to be quants; I figure the bottom's also fallen out of that.
― my dixie wrecked (Euler), Thursday, 27 August 2009 15:54 (fourteen years ago) link
For biology majors, PA school.
― kate78, Thursday, 27 August 2009 16:11 (fourteen years ago) link
i guess it's patent law still?
― caek, Thursday, 27 August 2009 17:11 (fourteen years ago) link
i no longer get cold-called by quant recruiters
― caek, Thursday, 27 August 2009 17:12 (fourteen years ago) link
to be fair about motivations, there are obviously still plenty of people who go to law school because they're actually really interested in the law and how things work; or because they're passionate about government or human right or something and want to use the degree to make a positive contribution to those areas; or because they're just inclined toward the kind of logic and thinking involved in law. but yes, there'd definitely seem to be a higher proportion of people who see it as a means to an end than you'd find in some other fields.
― nabisco, Thursday, 27 August 2009 18:04 (fourteen years ago) link
I work at a hoity toity law firm and I can say with certainty that 95% of people we take in are from top 20 schools. Its kinda retarded but thats just how we do things. The other 5% are from renowned local schools.
We have one guy whose a partner here who went to a super shitty lower tier school and hes basically the great white hope for those who did the same, but the odds of making it like he did are slim to none because hes basically insane.
― mayor jingleberries, Thursday, 27 August 2009 18:11 (fourteen years ago) link
http://www.smh.com.au/ffximage/2006/01/18/williamshatner_narrowweb__300x436,0.jpg
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 27 August 2009 18:14 (fourteen years ago) link
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/04/health/views/04greet.html
As the world braces for a second wave of the swine flu that broke out in the spring and resulted in the deaths of more than 2,100 people worldwide, the disease is altering long-established patterns of everyday greeting. Handshakes have been cut short, kisses aborted. Warm embraces have been supplanted by curt pats on the back.
― Tracer Hand, Friday, 4 September 2009 11:59 (fourteen years ago) link
Annual deaths from malaria: 2.7 million
― Tracer Hand, Friday, 4 September 2009 12:01 (fourteen years ago) link
Tracer Hand I think you need a hug, but of course now I don't dare.
― Houston (Euler), Friday, 4 September 2009 12:03 (fourteen years ago) link
Plus I'm too busy bracing for a second wave of Killer Pig Fever
― Tracer Hand, Friday, 4 September 2009 12:05 (fourteen years ago) link
aborted kisses ;_;
― elmo leonard (elmo argonaut), Friday, 4 September 2009 13:11 (fourteen years ago) link
How can you make ironic references to a 19th Century disease at a time like this?
― Bay-L.A. Bar Talk (Hurting 2), Friday, 4 September 2009 14:03 (fourteen years ago) link
what this thread needs right about now is some gabbneb.
― quincie, Friday, 4 September 2009 17:48 (fourteen years ago) link
style section article on Sym's had plenty of contempt but not enough agony for this thread
― elmo leonard (elmo argonaut), Friday, 4 September 2009 17:50 (fourteen years ago) link
Seinfeld needs to work up some material celebrating the death of the kiss hello and get back out on the road
― definitely mayne (some dude), Friday, 4 September 2009 17:52 (fourteen years ago) link
NYT continuing to fuel the obsession with Harvard: http://thechoice.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/09/08/harvarddean/?hp
Love this guy:
Dean Fitzsimmons,
My son was born last week. It is my son’s goal to go to an Ivy League school. He had near perfect APGAR scores. Should we include this on his 2026 application?— Ken
― youcangoyourownway, Wednesday, 9 September 2009 13:05 (fourteen years ago) link
My daughter is a good and hard-working student but just outside the top 10% of her small class in a well-respected private school. She’s the president of the school’s community service club and is the captain of the field hockey team. Does she have any chance of getting into Harvard?
How about if I donate $50 million?
— Marshall
haha
― iatee, Wednesday, 9 September 2009 20:30 (fourteen years ago) link
I was graduated from a public high school with a 2.3 GPA, no extracurriculars or public service to speak of, and have a Harvard degree. I spit on your dreams, Marshall and Ken.
― Three Word Username, Wednesday, 9 September 2009 21:09 (fourteen years ago) link
http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/09/18/complaint-box-counter-culture/
I'd probably be a dick to this guy, too.
― Britain's Favourite Carp (I DIED), Sunday, 20 September 2009 05:54 (fourteen years ago) link
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/27/fashion/27Coco.html?_r=1
― deej, Monday, 28 September 2009 04:08 (fourteen years ago) link
Ms. Saleh of the Bedford produce shop had a different take. “You see the weirdest stuff around here, so just walking around with a coconut ...” she said, shrugging, “what’s a coconut?”
It's an article!
― Tracer Hand, Monday, 28 September 2009 11:32 (fourteen years ago) link
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v134/tracerhand/Picture1-2.jpg
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/28/world/asia/28jakarta.html
― Tracer Hand, Monday, 28 September 2009 11:36 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah the wife and I just talked about that article at lunch. I was kinda wondering if Europe/NA will see more domestic servants in the "new" economy. My dad's from Latin America and while in USA dollars their wealth there wasn't huge, they still had a live-in domestic servant; and my family that's there still is the same way. And my brother worked in India a few years ago and his company provided a live-in domestic servant there too.
― Euler, Monday, 28 September 2009 11:42 (fourteen years ago) link
That coconut drink sounds delicious!
― Adam Bruneau, Monday, 28 September 2009 15:25 (fourteen years ago) link
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/04/fashion/04ivy.html?_r=1&ref=fashion
Michal Albanese, a sales executive for a fashion trade show who graduated from Brown in 1999, confirmed that the list did breed insecurity in some at the group’s last party. A couple of guests were called out for not having gone to Ivy Plus universities, she said, and one gentleman began rattling off his other accomplishments.
“The guy went to, like, Illinois,” she said, trying to recall the college.
“I don’t remember,” she added. ”But his friend kept saying, ‘You’re not even a plus.’ ”
― iatee, Sunday, 4 October 2009 07:45 (fourteen years ago) link
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/05/opinion/05adouthat.html?_r=2&hp
where to start
― bamcquern, Monday, 5 October 2009 13:05 (fourteen years ago) link
god i just read that. where is his brain.
― steamed hams (harbl), Monday, 5 October 2009 13:14 (fourteen years ago) link
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/11/nyregion/11twins.html?hp
― fleetwood (max), Sunday, 11 October 2009 03:11 (fourteen years ago) link
not really feeling all that bad for a bartender making $40k a year right now tbh
sorry, 24-yr-old bartender
― fleetwood (max), Sunday, 11 October 2009 03:12 (fourteen years ago) link
Was wondering when this story would appear here.
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 11 October 2009 03:14 (fourteen years ago) link
like, damn girl, im sorry making $800 a week is depressing you but try making $300 a week
― fleetwood (max), Sunday, 11 October 2009 03:14 (fourteen years ago) link
tho i did lol at this: Katie said: “Relatives in Ohio think working in a bar is a step down from prostitution.”
someone told me today that when she tells people in her ohio hometown that she works for a news website they assume its porn
― fleetwood (max), Sunday, 11 October 2009 03:15 (fourteen years ago) link
and like:
They had had a meeting with Deadspin, a sports blog, but no real jobs there, just the suggestion to join an Australian football team and write about it. Katie was pursuing an internship at the United Nations. Kristy decided to try to interest New York magazine in an article about the effect on kids who appear in unflattering YouTube videos. From a posting on Monster.com, she heard from someone who wondered if she could translate Arabic.
did the editor of the biggest sports blog in the country just give you a story suggestion?! why are you not following through?? maybe you should spend less time playing the g-damn saxophone
― fleetwood (max), Sunday, 11 October 2009 03:19 (fourteen years ago) link
and, lol:
And: “I keep wondering how do I propel myself out of the bar world, where I look cute and pour beer, into a world where I have thoughtful conversation about the world rather than stuff like why do people clap at the end of good movies. Or, why do you think Heidi Klum married Seal? I don’t care why!”
what does she think a career in magazine writing is going to entail if not 800 word pieces about why people clap at the end of movies (btw i think this is rather interesting) or why heidi klum married seal (again this is sort of interesting too)
― fleetwood (max), Sunday, 11 October 2009 03:20 (fourteen years ago) link
Kristy said she could do a photo display with the gnome bank that she had lugged around Newark, snapping pictures of it at the park, at a beauty store, in a police car.
if a rehash of an orbitz ad campaign is the best this girl can come up with for a blog shes going to be unemployed for a long time
― fleetwood (max), Sunday, 11 October 2009 03:22 (fourteen years ago) link
Kristy decided to try to interest New York magazine in an article about the effect on kids who appear in unflattering YouTube videos.
clearly she forgot to ask the nyt
― iatee, Sunday, 11 October 2009 03:22 (fourteen years ago) link