so there's no Al Jolson thread?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUjj-PbC5Ec

sweetness.

amateurist, Tuesday, 1 September 2009 02:08 (fourteen years ago) link

Is trying to separate Jolson's brilliance (particularly wrt things like Jazz Singer) from his blackfacing, most iconic location of this kind of racism (part. as a Jew vis-a-vis Rogan) like trying to separate Hitler killing Jews from Hitler painting paintings? Cause I love Jolson completely and without irony in the first form, even as the second gives me discomfort.

Mordy, Tuesday, 1 September 2009 02:13 (fourteen years ago) link

Search: "Blue Skies," "Toot Toot Tootsie," "Back in Your Own Backyard..." basically the entire Jazz Singer album.

Mordy, Tuesday, 1 September 2009 02:17 (fourteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28hk97-vZdQ

tony dayo (dyao), Tuesday, 1 September 2009 02:19 (fourteen years ago) link

I love that short so much. (God. I'm a racist, aren't I?)

Mordy, Tuesday, 1 September 2009 02:23 (fourteen years ago) link

Is trying to separate Jolson's brilliance (particularly wrt things like Jazz Singer) from his blackfacing, most iconic location of this kind of racism (part. as a Jew vis-a-vis Rogan) like trying to separate Hitler killing Jews from Hitler painting paintings?

oh, for fuck's sake. minstrelsy isn't that bad.

amateurist, Tuesday, 1 September 2009 04:35 (fourteen years ago) link

I wasn't saying minstrelsy is morally equivalent to genocide.

Mordy, Tuesday, 1 September 2009 04:40 (fourteen years ago) link

Artur Knight's Disintegrating the Musical: Black Performance and American Musical Film has a fantastic chapter on Jolson's use of blackface and black musical tropes in his hopefully no long obscure Hollywood musicals.

Kevin John Bozelka, Tuesday, 1 September 2009 05:13 (fourteen years ago) link

Arthur Knight, that is

Kevin John Bozelka, Tuesday, 1 September 2009 05:14 (fourteen years ago) link

have you ever seen Hallelujah I'm a Bum? Neo-socialist neo-operetta!

Indiana Morbs and the Curse of the Ivy League Chorister (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 2 September 2009 12:55 (fourteen years ago) link

I hadn't! but now I'm all psyched. Onto Netflix it goes.

Mordy, Wednesday, 2 September 2009 12:58 (fourteen years ago) link

Saw HIAB at the Film Forum recently, along with some Vitaphone shorts. Whole thing was amazing.

Horace Silver Machine (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 2 September 2009 13:04 (fourteen years ago) link

Among one of the many amazing things was that the score of HIAB was by Rodgers and Hart.

Horace Silver Machine (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 2 September 2009 13:09 (fourteen years ago) link

eight months pass...

Teenage Jolson impersonating in the '70s:

http://somecamerunning.typepad.com/some_came_running/2010/05/physical-evidence.html

kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 15 May 2010 15:05 (thirteen years ago) link

so tired of all the brain-scratching about blackface. dude was an amazing stylist.

by another name (amateurist), Sunday, 16 May 2010 00:07 (thirteen years ago) link

I come to this thread to recommend the book The Speed of Sound: Hollywood and the Talkie Revolution 1926-1930, by Scott Eyman.

Generation Blecch (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 16 May 2010 00:41 (thirteen years ago) link

fine, now go away.

by another name (amateurist), Monday, 17 May 2010 00:00 (thirteen years ago) link

xpost Yeah that's a great book. Thanx for bringing it up here, jrb.

The Jolson musicals are pretty easy to acquire now via Warner Archive. In another fantastic book about the era, A Song in the Dark: The Birth of the Musical Film, Richard Barrios rips mercilessly on The Singing Fool, Jolson's first feature after The Jazz Singer. Dramatically, yeah, it's the pits. But A LOT of it is just Jolson performing so...well, how bad is that?

Kevin John Bozelka, Monday, 17 May 2010 18:24 (thirteen years ago) link

six years pass...

rewatched Hallelujah, I'm a Bum, where Al is king of the Central Park tramps... songs by Rodgers & Hart, and this one's neat:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNFSftTwXwM

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 21 February 2017 19:26 (seven years ago) link


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