tipping

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seems short for a classic clusterfuck thread

Hoos- are you the voice of reason?

You're the tipping compass.

I don't think that anyone outside of some very compassionate San Franciscans think that waiting tables is in any way a "profession", let alone serious. It's a job, and no insult intended to folks in food service, but nobody aspires to be a waiter.

most people don't make their living doing things they aspired to when they are younger in my experience.

are younger, were younger

I'm not saying that something is a profession if and only if everyone who does it wanted to do it since they were young(er).

I have seen a lot of older, very nice waitresses in my day. But you're right I think a lot of people move through it when they're younger into other professions, eventually.

This was certainly true in the college town I grew up in.

"BBBuuut - aren't you saying that the service is non-serious since the servers should all, in your humble opinion, be doing something else?"

No.

If everyone did what they should be doing for a living, then taking a shit would be a life-threatening experience.

that doesn't even make sense!!

lol at "some very compassionate San Franciscans"

What kind of yardstick should I use to tip the doormen in my rent-stabilized apt building for the holidays?

There are 4: daytime guy, evening guy, weekend guy, overnight guy. The first 3 hold mail/UPS packages etc at the desk for me, the fourth buzzes me in late on Sat nights. I wanna be fair w/out causing myself pain (and I'm getting socked with unavoidable spending).

Reading the last thread revival, wow, I need to get a job as a waitress. Not that anyone will hire me, because I have no food service experience, but I make between minimum wage and $2 above minimum wage at multiple jobs. I could use some tips.

makes me glad i don't have doormen to tip, though. i have no idea what you should tip. the ny times has a comments discussion on that right now, though i don't know if it'll help you!

given my ceiling is prob $40, I wd bet not.

yeah probably. usually i can tell when their "big new trend" articles are about rich people, but since i've never lived in ny i had to ask my roommate who grew up there how common it is to have a doormen.

until I got this place, I didn't think rentals -- let alone rent-stab'd ones -- would!

have so much respect for americans' mental arithmetic prowess - still can't get used to having to do sums when eg drunk, as now, and my tipping method is literally to tip whatever random number under 10 comes into my head

I feel so much better about tipping now that I realize that I never want to go to a restaurant again!

my friend texted me and asked if he should tip a livery driver. I said yes just because i didn't want to admit i didn't know what a livery driver was

oh man, memmories of many misadventures in nyc gypsy cabs flooding back. tipping them is a must unless they try to rip you off.

lool

also lol @ surmounter up there

Trying to find info on if/how much you tip the Peapod delivery dude; there is no consensus online. Does 10 percent of the order cost seem reasonable?

yes

oh man this is why i would never order groceries. i eat beans and rice at home because it's cheap, coming up with the $60 minimum order PLUS delivery fee PLUS tip is going to have to wait until comfortable, lazy middle age.

I would like to know a) where you are living and b) how many people you are feeding with groceries that cost less than $60.

lex after a long, drunk meal i have no idea how to figure out splitting up between eight people + tip either, especially when one person's all "well i just had two vegetarian starters and only one drink so i don't think i should have to pay as much"

that person usually gets punched

i don't tip less than 15% on anything unless the next increment is way higher, but i don't know what customs are like in the second city (and deliver my own groceries)

i only punch that person if it makes the math easier.

xpost

there is a calculator on every cell phone. if you don't want to look like a nerd, go to the john and figure it out. i don't have a problem looking like a nerd i guess.

me eitha

xps - yea whenever i dine out w/ a big group i pretty much accept that i'm somehow gonna be paying a lot more than i should. somehow it always happens but it's kind of shitty to whine about it

ha dan otm

It totally makes the math easier because the punched person is too busy going "OOOOOOOOOOW" to notice that you've dumped the entire tip on their credit card.

I have noticed some 12% 15% 20% handy calculations appear on the bottom of some restaurant bills recently.

honestly, I don't get how ppl have difficulty calculating 15%

guys if u cant figure out 15 or 20% in less than a second you shouldnt be allowed to buy ur own food

ha xp

move a decimal point, add or divide by 2, add if appropriate

IT REALLY IS NOT ROCKET SCIENCE, EVEN AFTER YOU HAVE DRUNK ALL THE BEERS

15% is really hard. i have to calculate 10% then halve it then remember to add the two together then check i've actually got the relevant change and then aargh

of course in ranty-type "add" really means "multiply"

and all you need to do to calculate 10% is move a decimal!

yes but WHICH WAY, is what my brain thinks when it's drunk

10% is really easy but 15% would take me a while if drunk.

Bill is $153.57, 10% is $15.36 OMG FEAR MY MATH SKILLZ

wait half that is $7.68 add them together = $23 tip HOLY SHIT, A GENIUS

xp: hahaha okay lex, I do actually have some sympathy for that but really, if your tip ends up being larger than the bill it's a good bet that you've done it wrong

lex, louis is your only rival in the ability to blithely make posts that make yourself look bad

yes but WHICH WAY, is what my brain thinks when it's drunk

― lex pretend, Thursday, June 4, 2009 1:27 PM (2 minutes ago)

hahahaah lex i wanna go out with you and convince you to tip six hundred dollars on a $60 bill

if 60 was 960

huh