How do the various members of Terrorvision spend their time these days?

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Oh yes, I remember now. To think, Phil Alexander now editor of Mojo!

Neil Stewart (Neil Stewart), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 11:51 (eighteen years ago) link

I got a cassette of Red Kross for 50p at HMV, long time ago, and remembered Shonen Knife liking them a lot.

Didn't do much for me, I have to say.

mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 11:58 (eighteen years ago) link

Check this for the BAD old days of late 80s Kerrang

esp No's 2,11,15

Last Of The Famous International Pfunkboys (Kerr), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 12:00 (eighteen years ago) link

That list is great- who knew Molly Hatchet and the like released so many (presumably rubbish) records?

The divide between the 80s and the 90s couldn't be more stark, could it? Although it would appear that for the guys at Kerrang! the 90s actually started in 1991!

Neil Stewart (Neil Stewart), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 12:08 (eighteen years ago) link

it all started here
http://www.rocklistmusic.co.uk/kerrang.html#1982

Last Of The Famous International Pfunkboys (Kerr), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 12:18 (eighteen years ago) link

Oh god the 1985 and 1986 lists are staggering.

Last Of The Famous International Pfunkboys (Kerr), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 12:19 (eighteen years ago) link

I meant 1984 as well. But 1986....i wonder which albums of those 3 retained such high critical respect.

Last Of The Famous International Pfunkboys (Kerr), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 12:21 (eighteen years ago) link

and was there really a band called Sabu ?

Last Of The Famous International Pfunkboys (Kerr), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 12:22 (eighteen years ago) link

I don't see how those mid-80s ones are worse than anything that thinks Snake River Conspiracy made the seventh best album of any year

DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 12:49 (eighteen years ago) link

This is the greatest list ever :

Kerrang 1984 Singles

1. Van Halen - Jump
2. Prince - When Doves Cry
3. ZZ Top - Gimme All Your Lovin'
4. John Waite - Missing You
5. Frankie Goes To Hollywood - Relax
6. Motörhead - Killed By Death
7. Robin George - Heartline
8. Steve Perry - Oh Sherrie
9. Van Halen - I'll Wait
10. W.A.S.P. - Animal (**** Like A Beast)

Matt #2 (Matt #2), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 12:51 (eighteen years ago) link

x-post

Yeah, David Lee Roth better than Master of Puppets and Reign in Blood on the '86 albums list! And who the hell were/ are the Vinnie Vincent Invasion? And was that really the 9th best album of 1986? Interesting to note that Purple Rain did extremely well in '84, as well.

Neil Stewart (Neil Stewart), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 12:52 (eighteen years ago) link

That 84 singles list IS good (Steve Perry excepted)... but what the hell is

7. Robin George - Heartline?

NickB (NickB), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 12:58 (eighteen years ago) link

Kerrang! got a lot of shit (or, as they would say, shite) over putting Prince on the cover once. Not the racist shit that Rip got when putting Living Colour on the cover, but the nobody-bought-this-issue-because-wot-the-'ell? shit (shite).

Brian O'Neill (NYCNative), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 13:01 (eighteen years ago) link

H-H-H-H-H-H-H-Heartline (da-na-na-nananana--)

http://cover6.cduniverse.com/MuzeAudioArt/550/556666.jpg

Matt #2 (Matt #2), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 13:15 (eighteen years ago) link

Vinnie Vincent Invasion was the Egyptian themed guy from Kiss circa 1983-1985.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/e4/VinnieVincent.jpg

Matt #2 (Matt #2), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 13:17 (eighteen years ago) link

Lookin' good!

I like the way this thread has morphed from dubious rock bands of the 90s to- erm- dubious rock bands of the 80s!

Neil Stewart (Neil Stewart), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 13:19 (eighteen years ago) link

Still none the wiser re. Robin George. All looks a bit Snowy White to me (that's not supposed to be rhyming slang BTW).

x-post: Gawd, Charlotte Church is looking well rough there.

NickB (NickB), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 13:21 (eighteen years ago) link

There was a definite move from the early 90's to mid 90's of crap UK bands ripping off Faith No More to crap UK bands ripping off Rage Against The Machine. All done with a stodgy pub rock rhythm section of course.

Robin George was pushed by Kerrang as a rising superstar around 1985, until they realised that no-one liked him. Sounded like Magnum I think.

Matt #2 (Matt #2), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 13:26 (eighteen years ago) link

I love the fact that one of the photos on Redd Kross' site shown one of them sporting the exact same egyptian ankh facepain as vinnie vincent, above.

I remember Kerrang giving Robin George the big push back in the '80's. My memory says aor/pomp-rock w/technoflashy lead guitar playing, but I'm not entirely sure. I do remember this promo photo, where he's standing on a hilltop, bare chested, sucking his cheekbones in, and holding a bc rich guitar. IIRC he wasn't a shredder, '90's style.

I checked his website, and he's evidently still making music, so good for him, I really fucking admire ppl who keep on plugging, even if I'm not into what they're doing. I was going to check his music out on his site, but it crashed not only firefox, but my entire PC! while I was (briefly) staring at the screen, I noticed that they'd misspelled "discography" as "discocraphy" haha.

He was certainly very handsome, probably the equivalent of lisa dominique for Kerrang's (many) female readerz.

Actually my main memory of Kerrang in the '80's was this constant migraineish background drone of grim adolescent mastubatory sexism. If you were into metal & prog rock, it was pretty much the only game in town - especially after someone at "sounds" went batshit insane and handed the editor's chair to g4rry bush3ll - and if you wanted to read abt new metal releases, tour d8s etc, you were stuck w/"kerrang". But, it wasn't much fun. How I wish we'd had "terrorizer" back then.

My ex band played at this big club last year, and in a cupboard in the dressing room, they had a big pile of old "kerrang" issues, starting at something like issue #3. Cover starts liek Asia, or Fish from Marillion, with his sub jaz-coleman facepaint! I decided to rip 'em off next time we played there, but when we did, they were all gone.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 13:43 (eighteen years ago) link

Vinnie Vincent is famous for actually being sacked by his own band who went on without him.

We may as well do this now
Pandora Vs Pandora Peroxide.

Last Of The Famous International Pfunkboys (Kerr), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 13:49 (eighteen years ago) link

And lets not forget the roadie cartoon Brick Outhouse.

Last Of The Famous International Pfunkboys (Kerr), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 13:50 (eighteen years ago) link

Kontinuum

DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 13:52 (eighteen years ago) link

Wasn't pandora peroxide actually based on a real heavy metal singer? I'm sure I remember some F singer from some american glam/sleaze band rocking the ripped t-shirt/vest look, with "bitch" printed over each tit. Then, the comic strip (which was pretty terrible, for the most part) appearing a couple of issues later. Is it still running?

Pashmina (Pashmina), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 13:52 (eighteen years ago) link

God.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 13:53 (eighteen years ago) link

Terrible.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 13:53 (eighteen years ago) link

The best thing about Kerrang! in those days was how they had writers who handled their respective genres. Kelv Hellrazer was the AOR/glam guy, for example. Mike Smith, my editor at Livewire, tried to emulate that to an extent with that mag (and Powerline before it) using me as the underground thrash/death metal dude, him as the "glam" guy, etc...

Kerrang!/NYC memory: It's Only Rock And Roll, a record store in Manhattan, used to sell Kerrang! for only 99 cents as a way to get people in the door. Did anyone else here religiously visit this store for this like I did?

(I found a reference to the store here!)

Brian O'Neill (NYCNative), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 13:54 (eighteen years ago) link

Bushell wrote for Kerrang BITD, I guess there was a lot of crossover w/ Sounds when it was still a new mag

DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 13:58 (eighteen years ago) link

Hmm, this thread seems to have jumped back a decade with little hope of returning.
Anyone remember Rogue Male?
Xavier "Son Of Ken" Russell was Kerrang's resident "Suvvern Rock" authority, hence the preponderance of Molly Hatchet and 38 Special albums in the end of year lists.

Matt #2 (Matt #2), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 13:58 (eighteen years ago) link

The best thing about Kerrang! in those days was how they had writers who handled their respective genres.

That sort of continues in "classic rock" magazine, which is pretty much targeted at ageing ex-80's-kerrang readers. They have people covering various sub-genres of metal, and someone covering prog rock. Many of the writers I remember from '80's Kerrang, and "Sounds" before that. They had a feature on all the less well-known nwobhm bands, written by geoff "deaf" barton iirc.

(x-post, yeah, I remember bushell writing for kerrang, but at least they didn't let him edit the bloody thing!)

Pashmina (Pashmina), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 13:59 (eighteen years ago) link

Also, after "Kerrang" took off, they (IE Sounds) launched another monthly or fortnightly spin-off covering independent chart music - "noise", I think it was called. I still have a couple of copies, or perhaps a couple of pages cut out from it in my file of old shit I should really chuck in the bin.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 14:04 (eighteen years ago) link

In the mid 90s Pandora Peroxide retired and her niece Pandora took over. She is a goth chick/marilyn manson type.
I assume it's still going now.

Last Of The Famous International Pfunkboys (Kerr), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 14:07 (eighteen years ago) link

Kontinuum

Kontinuum is officially the worst music magazine cartoon ever. Even worse than those two DJs from Melody Maker.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 14:13 (eighteen years ago) link

that second one is actually worse than "nemi", shich is an achievement of sorts, I suppose.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 14:19 (eighteen years ago) link

Isn't the Hokey Cokey an American invention?

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 14:21 (eighteen years ago) link

http://home.clara.net/tiffany/brianpand.jpg

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 14:22 (eighteen years ago) link

I think Ray Zell used to be in a band with Razzle, pre Hanoi Rocks. They all had names that were variants on Raise Hell. God knows what the others were called.

Pashmina, throw it all in the bin! Really! You'll never regret it.

Matt #2 (Matt #2), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 14:27 (eighteen years ago) link

Actually, at the weekend, I got all my old copies of "mojo", and pitched the lot of them! I don't regret it either. I have more space. I'll get round to it all eventually.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 14:28 (eighteen years ago) link

I was hoping Ray Zell was the not particularly clever pseudonym of Rahzel.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 14:31 (eighteen years ago) link

Pandora is always made to sort of represent the female Kerrang! reader at the time. She was a bombshell when glam rock was king, she became kinda grungy for a while and now she's got a gothic Avril Levigne thing going on. I also think it's fascinating how her tits have gotten smaller as well.

Brian O'Neill (NYCNative), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 14:32 (eighteen years ago) link

Can we talk about ECT now?

Matt #2 (Matt #2), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 14:36 (eighteen years ago) link

I'VE BEEN TRYING TO REMEMBER THE NAME OF THAT BLOODY PROGRAMME ALL MORNING!!!!

Pashmina (Pashmina), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 14:37 (eighteen years ago) link

Robin George was on it!

Also, Manowar.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 14:38 (eighteen years ago) link

I also think it's fascinating how her tits have gotten smaller as well.

Oh yeah, me too

DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 14:50 (eighteen years ago) link

Also, Marino The Band.
(ECT I'm talking about, not tits)
(although Lisa "Gypsy Rider" Dominique was in them)

Matt #2 (Matt #2), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 14:55 (eighteen years ago) link

Wasn't she related to Frank Marino in some way?

For shame, I once saw Lisa Dominique live, although I'm sure she was supporting somebody I actually wanted to see.

aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 15:35 (eighteen years ago) link

I can remember reading some old kerrangs at a friends place in the very early 90s. It was full of posters of sexy girls like Lisa Dominique, Dora and other names i've forgotten.
There was also a few 80s ones and the letters pages were full of complaints about sexism and particularly some sort of page 3 style feauture.
Perhaps someone knows what that was?

So we don't leave the americans out - What were American metal mags like in the 80s? Which non-memorable bands were covered there?

Last Of The Famous International Pfunkboys (Kerr), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 18:03 (eighteen years ago) link

Those Senseless Things tracks sound remarkably similar to the Libertines. And I kinda like em, esp that 'Too Much Kissing' one. The album I adored by them was the one after that though, can't remember what it's called at all. Just relistened to some Terrorvision and blow me down, those guys could write a cracking pop track. A real barrage of hooks, esp on Pretend Best Friend. The ballads are shite though. And I'm probably never going to listen to them ever again. That's a decade-old boil lanced right there.

Affectian (Affectian), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 19:33 (eighteen years ago) link

Senseless Things always sounded like The Replacements to me.
So you won't listen to the terrorvision ballads but you will listen to the pop rock ones?

Last Of The Famous International Pfunkboys (Kerr), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 19:45 (eighteen years ago) link


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