Black Metal vs Death Metal

Ian - Liturgy's "Renihilation" would be my pick.

eh, that krallice album is kinda boring, imo.

I would check out some aura noir. loved hades rise and I know that black thrash attack is on vinyl because I have it.

"Liturgy's "Renihilation" would be my pick."
^this

Also, any Ludicra you can get your hands on. The roughs of their new one are killing me.

Krallice seconded. One of the very best BM releases of last year and one of those platters that somehow also appeal to people that are not really into BM. The riffs are very noodley. Which I love. But I can see how that might bore people, as the weaving and whirling almost seems endless.

Thanks for the list, Phil! Yeah, I really don't like those. I'd already tried about half of those, and after listening to the rest, Augury is still all I kept. Ah well.

On the BM side, I'll second/third/whatever the Liturgy and Ludicra recs.

Yeah, that Liturgy album is superb, I've been playing that a lot the last couple weeks.

Krallice is fucking great

Def interested in hearing the Krallice LP. Been a fan of Orthrelm/Octis/Mick Barr for years now. It's been ordered, I'll check it out sometime next week when it shows up... a little worried abt the 'jam' factor, but I imagine they can keep it under control.

tonight i picked up:
wird 'huldrafolk' and
obituaary 'slowly we rot.'

love it.

Oh yeah, I should have mentioned Krallice earlier! Branca-metal just makes so much sense.

"Branca-metal just makes so much sense."

I tried and failed to make such a thing in 1996.

Ah, here's some "Avant Garde Black Metal" for you, I think: Polis Rouge by Remmirath. Slovakia, 2008. Interestingly atmospheric, with one long electronic digression.

I cant wait for the new Krallice album, it's due very soon. I got the last one on vinyl from gilead media. There should be some left , it only came out on vinyl this year.

what are peoples pick-10 for death metal albums

off the top of my head

Morbid Angel - Domination
Unleashed - Where No Life Dwells
Morgoth - Odium
Carcass - Symphonies of Sickness
Vader - Ultimate Incantation
Bolt Thrower - Realm of Chaos
Death - Scream Bloody Gore
Asphyx - Last One on Earth
Rebaelliun - Annihilation
Marduk - Panzer Division Marduk

marduk is death metal? no cannibal corpse or entombed?

"what are peoples pick-10 for death metal albums"

there's a thread.

TS: Death Metal vs. Black Metal

pov: death metal albums

POV: Early 90s Death Metal

xpost - I guess Marduk is just so extreme and well produced that I can't think of it as black metal. Emperor's Equilibrium IX is pretty death metal in its way too.

I thought Marduk was BM?

Whatever. :)

lol

¿so is all black metal hella racisty?

no.

No.

"Is all rap misogynistic?"

nah i mean i heard some burzum and it was really awesome and my friend was all "hey that stuff is bad news" or whatever. the wikipedia page says they're all nazis i was just wonderin

Oh well, yeah Burzum is definitely a special case - for many reasons.

But it's not represented within the musics or lyrics, most of his racist stuff came while he was in jail wasnt it? Anyway there's actual NSBM that is way worse than Burzum et al

lol @ jj's description

surprising result. I think "in general", I'm definitely a death metal maven - most all of my favorites are death metal bands. But when it comes to the elite, the top black metal acts can be transcedent (like your Immortals and such).

I still would have voted death metal.

did lj get into death metal?

and if so, why?

it would be the arty/proggy kind obviously

btw if anyone here liked Weakling (or The Gault), they might be interested to know that John Gossard has formed a new BM project called Dispirit. I bought the demo tape and it's really really great. Cant wait for a full length.

You can check out some clips here & order it if you want to.

http://dispirit.org/

viceroy did you check it out?

SEND BACK MY STAMPS!: THE EARLY DEATH METAL ZINE GRAVEYARD
http://sendbackmystamps.org/

best fuckin site

wanted to post it in here as the link would get lost on the rolling metal thread plus a lot of people don't read it due to its pace/promo talk.
I know plenty will enjoy it (and possibly share stories of putting glue over stamps to wash off postmarks so they can be re-used)

Fuck, I wish I was cool enough to have known about this sort of stuff when it was out. This interview with Dan Lilker at the 9:30 Club (the old 9:30 club!) would have blown my 1991 mind. Thanks for sharing!

i just saw it posted on Forever Doomed and thought plenty ilx metalheads would get a kick out of it.

or 2 anyway

some good reading here for sure

I think that Strongbad mixes up Death Metal and Black Metal at times (and glam too!) but otherwise, this is the best thing you will ever watch:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cya3yjWWyqE

Okay guys, in the next ten minutes: help me choose whether to read:

Sound of the Beast
Lords of Chaos
or
Choosing Death

on the bus ride home today.

black metal is the wrong answer but uhm I submit this stanza from Christraping Black Metal:

"The daughters of satan abuses your body
And drool in ecstasy when you die
While our warriors rips the beard
Of your idiot father halls up high"