ranked up moments of melodrama and visual excess and minimalist dialogue, is what i mean.
The Insider (and Erin Brockovich) don't have these?
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 29 August 2007 16:57 (sixteen years ago) link
i still think farrell was doing a george w. bush impression in miami vice
― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 29 August 2007 16:59 (sixteen years ago) link
the insider is scene after scene of melodrama and someone JUST complained that the visual excess is what they DON'T like about the movie. this thread is insane.
guys, michael mann is tony scott with pretentiousness. i'm not sure why he's treated so seriously while other action directors are regarded so lowly on ilx, but seriously miami vice was a piece of shit.
― the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Wednesday, 29 August 2007 16:59 (sixteen years ago) link
There's taking sides and then there's which way is up.
― Eazy, Wednesday, 29 August 2007 17:03 (sixteen years ago) link
the melodrama in 'the insider' wasn't life-or-death enough. but i can't talk rationally about mann.
― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Wednesday, 29 August 2007 17:06 (sixteen years ago) link
the insider was way more entertaining than miami vice! it was fun to watch, miami vice was just like >:| and also jamie foxx's chinpubes were pissing me off.
― cankles, Wednesday, 29 August 2007 17:35 (sixteen years ago) link
apart from more herc-from-the-wire at the start, there's no big difference.
― milo z, Wednesday, 29 August 2007 17:40 (sixteen years ago) link
The scene where Tubbs's wife receives a big bouquet of flowers right after he meets with the folks in Haiti is one that I think was missing from the original run.
― Eazy, Wednesday, 29 August 2007 17:43 (sixteen years ago) link
guys, michael mann is tony scott with pretentiousness.
lol i can't really argue with this but then again tony scott is kind of awesome to me too
i'm surprised mohicans isnt getting more love! it is goofy as hell but so are most of these, and also it has MAGUA. and a dude who says "KAN-TUCK-EE." and they fight with big hockey stick thingies.
― cankles, Wednesday, 29 August 2007 17:45 (sixteen years ago) link
Mohicans would be second on my list!
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 29 August 2007 17:50 (sixteen years ago) link
mohicans is what i voted for.
― ☪, Wednesday, 29 August 2007 18:31 (sixteen years ago) link
man now i need to buy the studio cut of 'miami vice'. the first hour of that film, right up to farrell and gong li going to cuba, is my favourite film ever at the moment.
― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Wednesday, 29 August 2007 18:55 (sixteen years ago) link
You guys are all cocks, Ally included, for having and trying to impress your reactionary and stodgy aesthetics -- like the ending of a film matters??? -- personally upon me as the lot of you are deleted from ILX and replaced by 1000 cankles (who is OTM) clones.
― Leee, Wednesday, 29 August 2007 23:20 (sixteen years ago) link
Smoke a cigarette, dude.
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 29 August 2007 23:32 (sixteen years ago) link
Smoke a cock, bro. ^_^
― Leee, Wednesday, 29 August 2007 23:35 (sixteen years ago) link
Light my fag end.
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 29 August 2007 23:40 (sixteen years ago) link
:D
― river wolf, Wednesday, 29 August 2007 23:43 (sixteen years ago) link
ps ally comparing michael mann to tony scott is o_O
have you seen Domino? incomprehensible bullshit man on fire? crazy looking, jumpy bullshit with WORdS ON THE SCREEN wtf
― river wolf, Wednesday, 29 August 2007 23:44 (sixteen years ago) link
Man on Fire was terrible.
But the Denzel time bending bullshit one was p sweet.
― W4LTER, Wednesday, 29 August 2007 23:47 (sixteen years ago) link
Walken's quote from Man On Fire, something like " death is his art, and he's about to paint his masterpiece"
So very o_O
― W4LTER, Wednesday, 29 August 2007 23:48 (sixteen years ago) link
tony scott:michael mann::buffy fanfic:h.p. lovecraft
― max, Wednesday, 29 August 2007 23:58 (sixteen years ago) link
tony scott:michael mann::talking to a 3 year old:talking to a 16 year old
― max, Thursday, 30 August 2007 00:00 (sixteen years ago) link
tony scott:michael mann::banana:plantain
tony scott:michael mann::FUCK YOU
― cankles, Thursday, 30 August 2007 00:05 (sixteen years ago) link
Mohicans is awesome, even with that poorly handled scene where the French officer talks to Magua
F.O.: Sup Magua MAGUA: Magua hates the White Hair because blah blah blah blah blah F.O.: Dude, I was just askin' wussup. le chill.
Fantastic ending though. DDL kickin' ass with muskets, chick kills herself, Wes Studi in general.
Also, "I face north and turn left real quick like"
Don't get the Tony Scott thing though. Mann apes Le Samourai and we get the fantastic Collateral. What would happen if Scott were to do so?
― Gukbe, Thursday, 30 August 2007 02:44 (sixteen years ago) link
Wes Studi should be in every movie, ever.
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 30 August 2007 02:45 (sixteen years ago) link
Alfred, your gay bits cannot abide by my Promethean fire that burns so white hot you can see your reflection in it!!!!
― Leee, Thursday, 30 August 2007 02:46 (sixteen years ago) link
-- Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, August 30, 2007 2:45 AM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Link
Somebody should do a Wes Studi poll, though part of me wonders whether it will just descend into Mystery Men quotations.
― Gukbe, Thursday, 30 August 2007 02:54 (sixteen years ago) link
yeah wes studi is a pimp. otm about the ending sequence too, just music and wacking dudes with hockey sticks
― cankles, Thursday, 30 August 2007 03:24 (sixteen years ago) link
I was thinking earlier tonight how it would be really hard to find a good birthday present for Michael Mann.
― Eazy, Thursday, 30 August 2007 04:32 (sixteen years ago) link
Which is not the case for Nancy Meyers.
― Eric H., Thursday, 30 August 2007 04:36 (sixteen years ago) link
Nancy Meyers, an Aveda basket would do the job.
― Eazy, Thursday, 30 August 2007 04:44 (sixteen years ago) link
By the way, the latest Nike commercial featuring LaDainian Tomlinson was directed by Mann. Makes me think that Any Given Sunday would've been great in his hands.
― Wookie Rookie, Friday, 31 August 2007 08:41 (sixteen years ago) link
-- max, Thursday, August 30, 2007 1:00 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark Link
oh snap
― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Friday, 31 August 2007 08:56 (sixteen years ago) link
LOTM and Manhunter are awesome, particularly LOTM which battles with Roger Rabbit to be my favourite film ever. Miami Vice SuXoR, haven't seen the others.
― The Real Dirty Vicar, Friday, 31 August 2007 11:09 (sixteen years ago) link
Thanks, Wookie. Nice ad.
― Eazy, Friday, 31 August 2007 15:57 (sixteen years ago) link
http://filmfanatic.org/reviews/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/cOX.JPG
Would you, uh, like to leave me your home phone number, Will?
― Joe, Saturday, 1 September 2007 03:19 (sixteen years ago) link
Do you know how you caught me, Will?
Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.
― ILX System, Wednesday, 5 September 2007 23:01 (sixteen years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.
― ILX System, Thursday, 6 September 2007 23:01 (sixteen years ago) link
Two words:
LA Takedown
― Girolamo Savonarola, Saturday, 8 September 2007 21:53 (sixteen years ago) link
Missed this. 'Heat' ages so well, it deserves this, even though I agree the ending is weak, and I hated it the first time I saw it. 'L.A. Plays Itself' notes some blatant mistakes of local geography, but the whole cool-cops-vs.-cool-bad-guys thing you either love or hate.
'Ali' read like a great script when it was excerpted in Vanity Fair, but so much of what was supposed to be going on in those scenes was internal to his character that you wondered how it could be filmed, and of course it turned out it couldn't.
I could not, for one second, believe Tom Cruise as a hitman in 'Collateral,' so that was pretty much a beautiful wash for me.
― Pete Scholtes, Saturday, 8 September 2007 21:59 (sixteen years ago) link
x-post
Yeah, need to track it down: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0097700/
― Pete Scholtes, Saturday, 8 September 2007 22:02 (sixteen years ago) link
uhhh no you dont
― ☪, Saturday, 8 September 2007 22:49 (sixteen years ago) link
OK WHO VOTED FOR ALI
― jhøshea, Saturday, 8 September 2007 22:50 (sixteen years ago) link
Hey, I spent an hour at the Museum of Contemporary Art's bookstore today reading this Taschen coffee-table book on Michael Mann's films.
― Eazy, Saturday, 8 September 2007 23:01 (sixteen years ago) link
Wow, I never realised Thief was Michael Mann. It's way better than most of that shite. I'll take James Caan over post-1980 Al Pacino every day of the week.
― Noodle Vague, Sunday, 9 September 2007 13:15 (sixteen years ago) link
cosign
― kenan, Sunday, 9 September 2007 14:37 (sixteen years ago) link
But I didn't see it on the list at first so I voted for The Keep which I saw as a teenager and as I remember is strange and maybe a bit rubbishy but in a good way.
― Noodle Vague, Sunday, 9 September 2007 14:44 (sixteen years ago) link
http://youtube.com/watch?v=55BZ2gSsSmY
HOLY SHIT THIS IS SO FUCKING COOL. HAHAHAHA IT USES THE MUSIC FROM THE END OF LAST OF THE MOHICANS TOO
― cankles, Sunday, 9 September 2007 19:24 (sixteen years ago) link