Why does Jesus and Mary Chain's 'Psychocandy' sound like crap?

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Regular discs.

Mark G, Friday, 29 June 2007 08:35 (sixteen years ago) link

"Something's Wrong" came up on my ipod this morning. I had completely forgotten how utterly (and paradoxically) majestic that album could sound.

baaderonixx, Friday, 29 June 2007 15:12 (sixteen years ago) link

The only way to fully appreciate Psychocandy is via a cassette-recorded copy made in the studio of a university radio station, using an inferior turntable and the station's well-worn-to-the-point-of-whiteness-paler-than-the-Reid brothers' complexions vinyl version. (I later bought an official actual cassette and it didn't measure up.)

Myonga Vön Bontee, Friday, 29 June 2007 18:05 (sixteen years ago) link

one year passes...

Psychocandy is today's 'seminal album' being given away with The Times / WHSmith

http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/tol/arts_and_entertainment/commercial/article4867507.ece

koogs, Wednesday, 8 October 2008 08:58 (fifteen years ago) link

I think I only have this on napster-download-circa-2001 mp3 so I'll probably buy that.

jim, Wednesday, 8 October 2008 09:49 (fifteen years ago) link

It is supposed to sound that way. It's called "shoegazing". See also My Bloody Valentine, which is an even more typical example of the same.

Geir Hongro, Wednesday, 8 October 2008 10:54 (fifteen years ago) link

> See also My Bloody Valentine, which is an even more typical example of the same.

you talk as if mbv only ever released one lp...

koogs, Wednesday, 8 October 2008 13:47 (fifteen years ago) link

pls do not associate JAMC with lame MBV thx!

Bright Future (sunny successor), Wednesday, 8 October 2008 14:49 (fifteen years ago) link

by the way the first post is cute

Bright Future (sunny successor), Wednesday, 8 October 2008 14:50 (fifteen years ago) link

I don't think the record sounds like crap. But I prefer the band's sound on their early 12" singles. They have this three-dimensional/dub feel that seems to be missing from Psychocandy.

QuantumNoise, Wednesday, 8 October 2008 15:04 (fifteen years ago) link

another day goes by me
another day, a month and a year
and as I look around me
I feel so lonely there's no one here
no one here beside me
no one here to help to see me through
to see me through
to see me through
'cause I need you
'cause I need you
been standing still for much too long
and I realise there's something wrong
I'm feeling strange, I need a change
and I realise that
there's something wrong
there's something wrong
there's something wrong
another two years over
don't understand what's happened to me
these days are so much colder
up against the fire, dont feel any heat
cracked up years behind me
cracked up years ahead are all I see
are all I see

baaderonixx, Wednesday, 8 October 2008 15:33 (fifteen years ago) link

pls do not associate JAMC with lame MBV thx!

I think the debt is pretty obvious and acknowledged.

Trivia: Douglas Hart has done the amazing visuals for the new MBV tour.

Also, MBV lame? No.

Spencer Chow, Wednesday, 8 October 2008 17:41 (fifteen years ago) link

come on now

Bright Future (sunny successor), Wednesday, 8 October 2008 19:00 (fifteen years ago) link

I think the debt is pretty obvious and acknowledged.

The debt went the other way, though, didn't it? Obviously MBV's debt to Jesus & Mary Chain was great.

Both owe a great debt to Velvet Underground, with the exception that JAMC were influenced both by the good Velvets tracks("Sunday Morning", "Candy Says" etc.) and the bad ones ("Sister Ray", "Heroin" etc.), whereas MBV were only influenced by Velvets at their worst and most noisy and unlistenable.

Geir Hongro, Wednesday, 8 October 2008 21:00 (fifteen years ago) link

yes surely MBV gave nary a second thought to Sunday Morning how true

ian, Wednesday, 8 October 2008 21:03 (fifteen years ago) link

xpost, that is obviously what I'm saying.

Spencer Chow, Wednesday, 8 October 2008 21:29 (fifteen years ago) link

regarding the direction of the debt.

Spencer Chow, Wednesday, 8 October 2008 21:30 (fifteen years ago) link

Geir I honestly wonder how familiar you are with MBV. Very pretty melodies all over the place.

Spencer Chow, Wednesday, 8 October 2008 21:48 (fifteen years ago) link

Fact: Psychocandy sounds best on scratched up vinyl through blown speakers.

Pillbox, Wednesday, 8 October 2008 22:58 (fifteen years ago) link

Geir I honestly wonder how familiar you are with MBV. Very pretty melodies all over the place.

No idea. I have listened to their albums several times. I can hear there are melodies buried somewhere in there, but getting them into my head, which is obviously needed to judge them, is impossible because of that wall of guitar noise.

Geir Hongro, Wednesday, 8 October 2008 23:01 (fifteen years ago) link

Smoke some weed first

Niles Caulder, Thursday, 9 October 2008 01:04 (fifteen years ago) link

some days I think the best thing JAMC ever did was get mentioned in the liner notes to Evol or which ever it was

sonderangerbot, Thursday, 9 October 2008 01:07 (fifteen years ago) link

I can't see how Geir would dislike "Sunny Sundae Smile" or "Lovely Sweet Darlene".

Trayce, Thursday, 9 October 2008 02:34 (fifteen years ago) link

(ie Loveless is NOT THE ONLY THING THEY DID FFS)

Trayce, Thursday, 9 October 2008 02:34 (fifteen years ago) link

maybe because he's a cloth-eared fuckwit

Deep House, M.D. (haitch), Thursday, 9 October 2008 02:41 (fifteen years ago) link

two months pass...

i never really had a problem with the sound of this record, mainly just the repetitive song structures and general lack of variety. i've reconciled myself to this though over the last few years and now love the record pretty much unconditionally.

Charlie Howard, Friday, 26 December 2008 02:52 (fifteen years ago) link

so basically u foreced urself to liek it.

descendent of warlocks (The Brainwasher), Friday, 26 December 2008 02:53 (fifteen years ago) link

sorta deal

Charlie Howard, Friday, 26 December 2008 03:23 (fifteen years ago) link

It sounds that way on purpose. I like "Darklands" better because it has the vocals more in the forefront of the production.

Geir Hongro, Friday, 26 December 2008 03:46 (fifteen years ago) link

six years pass...

well, the current live version of this album sounds absolutely bloody epic.
there are these huge basslines courtesy of phil 'lush/union jackson/etc' king, that i had never heard before tonights rendition in bristol.
i never heard the proper remasters, so have no idea if those editions revealed the bass.
and as for the drums.
wow.
i did not expect to be as impressed as i was.

mark e, Friday, 27 February 2015 00:16 (nine years ago) link

six years pass...

Still trying (and failing) to “get” this album. I guess you had to be there.

Mr. Snrub, Tuesday, 28 December 2021 22:50 (two years ago) link

i guess so, what is there to get? it is a good album.

akm, Wednesday, 29 December 2021 00:31 (two years ago) link

Yeah, you'd have to listen to the top twenty of the chart, and the independant album chart for a bit, and then play it, and then you may have context.

I don't think it's needed, really.

Some might say "Darklands" is the better album now, but.

Mark G, Wednesday, 29 December 2021 09:43 (two years ago) link

darklands isn't as distinctive but i certainly prefer it

ufo, Wednesday, 29 December 2021 10:15 (two years ago) link

21 Singles is all I need, really.

Happy birthday, Jim Reid.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 29 December 2021 10:30 (two years ago) link


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