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the cornballitude of hillbilly jones singer jon bridgewater's elvis affectations gets to me sometimes (in "ridin' high" the vocal actually is *improved* by being muffled through some studio gadget or gizmo), and though their rhythm section's splitting of the difference between swing and rockabilly has a real roll to it that they've got the chops to pull off, its underlying jive bunny and the mastermixers gone hee-haw aesethtic leaves me a little queasy. still, a pretty good album. i like how "pink cadillac" (not a bruce cover) starts out like "hot rod lincoln." too. best cuts: "ridin high," "ready to fire," "runaway train," "georgia buck on a fast train" (though when shaver did it, it didn't have "buck" in its title, right?)

has anybody else noticed the verbosity of the liner notes on the shannon brown album? i didn't, not until this morning, at least in part because i hadn't played the actual finished object much, after i'd played the advance copy so much when it arrived last thanksgiving, back when my 14-year-old kid sherman was a whole inch shorter. anyway, shannon sure does blab a lot about her songs on that inner sleeve. talks about how "good old days" is her "disco groove thing that i grew up on," and reminds her of her "mom's and dad's bar back home" where there were "no stereotypes, no rules and regulations" and "every walk of life is found there and it's OK," close to toby's "i love this bar" i guess but a far cry to the situation in her single "corn fed" where only country music gets played on the radio. and "high horses" is about inclusiveness too, so shannon's got a lot of contraditions whether she knows or not, which is not a bad thing. and though "can i get an amen," the song with BTO or Doobies riffs, talks about being born again, shannon's liner notes suggest that her main use for the word "amen!" is the equivalent of "hallelujah!" when you get out of "an unhealthy relationship." she also says in her notes to "turn to me" that "i have deep rooted alcoholism in my family, and [the song]'s about a woman being strong enough to support her man." does that mean she joins sheryl crow in frank's co-dependent rock hall of fame?

xhuxk, Sunday, 23 April 2006 17:47 (eighteen years ago) link

hey old news i'm sure but did anyone ever write the obvious 'kerosene/kryptonite' piece? and good to have you back xhuxkx!

j blount (papa la bas), Sunday, 23 April 2006 19:57 (eighteen years ago) link

You don't mean that "Kerosene" reminds you of the Spin Doctors song about Kryptonite?! Say it ain't so, so I won't think about it. Anthony, does "the dark polysemy of long back train" mean what I think it does? In the video, a pregnant girl and others in lone peril each stand on the track, but raise their arms and disappear, just as the train is about to touch them. So Salvation is like a personal Rapture? But since it's not THE Rapture, they have to reappear in the world, and go about the Lord's business, waiting for the Call for All, or their own Call to go on through the gates, regardless of what time it is for everybody else? Or this is their own personal call to Heaven?"Underlying Jive Bunny and the mastermixers Hee Haw aesthetic" gets you queasy, but that's not too far from a description of Big & Rich, is it? Maybe it's more Big Kenny solo, since you dint like his drum machine. Shannon Brown's in their Muzik Mafia, hence the commie commentary, right? Twee country: try the Kendalls, and download Ashley Monroe's "Satisfied," and check others on the Rolling Teenpop thread. Brenda Lee, maybe?

don, Sunday, 23 April 2006 23:24 (eighteen years ago) link

yeah, all that don, and also, how you are never sure whether the train is the dark side of god, the wrath, the machine of salvation, or whether its the devil, or whether its something else, something stranger--like how sometimes the train saves you (midnight special) and sometimes it isolates you (folsom prison) and sometimes saves (orange blossom special) and how the song is about all of those things, and its almost an unsolveable--and it all rests on his voice, cleaner, more precise, more classically beautiful then cash or ledbetter or others who like the train song...

the songs on the new album arent as good as this (but the more and more i think about it, long black train is a singualr work, and part of the canon and unrepeatable) but some songs on the new album use his voice to similar effect, the warmth and the precision about pleasure, instead of duty, but still its resoant...

i fucking love mr turner, and i wonder why he hasnt got more love

anthony easton (anthony), Monday, 24 April 2006 05:49 (eighteen years ago) link

NO NOT SPIN DOCTORS BUY A RADIO YOU FREEX JESUS

j blount (papa la bas), Monday, 24 April 2006 06:32 (eighteen years ago) link

ie. big boi's 'kryptonite' - as far as i can tell (playing in my head - haven't done an actual head-to-head comparison) identical hooks that work identically in the songs (ie. they are the songs), i'm not sure if the little harmonica/organ, um, counterhooks in the songs work the same way or resemble each other much worth noting and i'm pretty sure any thematic/lyrical similarities are a stretch or a coincidence.

j blount (papa la bas), Monday, 24 April 2006 06:38 (eighteen years ago) link

ha ha, i thought you meant Three Doors Down (way less forgettable than the big boi version).

xhuxk, Monday, 24 April 2006 12:31 (eighteen years ago) link

i thought you liked 'kerosene'!

j blount (papa la bas), Monday, 24 April 2006 16:52 (eighteen years ago) link

This preview of Dylan's XM radio show is tantalizing:

www.xmradio.com/b0bdy1an_s3c
username: press1
Password: xmr0ck5!

I think Frank posted something somewhere about how this would be a great show if Chronicles guided the playlist. Not quite, but close. I wish I could afford XM.

Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Monday, 24 April 2006 16:56 (eighteen years ago) link

I love "Kerosene"! I've just never noticed any similarity to any song named "Kryptonite." Which is not to say there *isn't* a similarity, and next time I hear Big Boi's one, I'll listen with "Kerosene" in mind and maybe like it more. (My copy of that mostly boring *Got Purp Vol II* comp is long gone -- it was on there, right?) Right now I'm listening to the Steeleye Span album I bought used on vinyl in Seattle two days before getting fired (*All Around My Hat*) for similarites to Montgomery Gentry, whose "If You Ever Stop Loving Me" (I think) somebody on ILM said a couple years ago reminded them of Steeleye Span, though I'm not sure why. Intriguing comparison regardless, and SS sound real good, but not like MG so far. (Though I believe I've heard this is one of their more rocking albums) (though so far it's not *that* rocking, not compared to some Fairport Convention and Horslips I've heard.)

Also it should be noted here that I actually like "Me and My Gang" off the new Rascal Flatts album -- not a Gary Glitter cover, but swamp-country sifted through Big'n'Rich hick-hop.

xhuxk, Monday, 24 April 2006 21:27 (eighteen years ago) link

Your last post could be read as saying you got fired for similarities to Montgomery Gentry.

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Monday, 24 April 2006 21:34 (eighteen years ago) link

im sure he did

anthony easton (anthony), Monday, 24 April 2006 21:39 (eighteen years ago) link

jesus christ xhuxk buy a radio, 'kryptonite' was all over it - anyhow same song as 'kerosene', same hook, different instrumentation. three doors down or whatever's 'kryptonite' is basically a bookend to spin doctor's 'kryptonite' too, seven years later jimmy olsen's blues pressurized from coal to diamond, limp noodlewank turned to altvedder portent (millenium approaches side-effect maybe) with common dna = blooz groan and po' pitiful male skeez narrator. tv on the radio should do a song about kryptonite to complete the trilogy.

miranda lambert came thru again and i missed her again. 14 dollars!

j blount (papa la bas), Monday, 24 April 2006 21:48 (eighteen years ago) link

"po pitiful male skeez narrator": that tears any pedantic correlations, incl. basic implication of "kryptonite": Miranda aint got time for no ol comic book alibi Superman, man, man (turn around your cape's on fire). Anthony, I get the impression that Josh is one who has been doing his homework backstage. (Somebody told me he co-wrote "Pretty Paper," but he looks way too young for that).Is now stepping forth from Music Row apprenticeship, like Dolly Parton, Alan Jackson, Brad Paisley, Dierks Bentley.(Must look up lyrics to Woody G.'s "Little Black Train" tomorrow.) Eddy, this the second time you've gotten fired from the Voice. Three strikes, so WATCH IT.

don, Tuesday, 25 April 2006 05:40 (eighteen years ago) link

what d you mean doing his homework backstage don?

anthony easton (anthony), Tuesday, 25 April 2006 06:08 (eighteen years ago) link

"Backwards" on the new Rascal Flatts album is good too. Fast and catchy, with an Eddie Rabbit style rhyme-talking section in the middle and a real clever conceit, namely that if you play a country song backwards (which sadly they don't, I don't think, but what the heck), you get your house and dog and hair and wives you lost back, ha ha. The ballads, and there are too many, seem way less bearable, though; so far the one I kind of like (or at least don't hate) is "Ellsworth," with lots of specifics about small-town Kansas life in 1948.

Also slowly exploring the two-disc, R Crumb-artworked new Yazoo comp *The Stuff Dreams are Made Of: The Dead Sea Scrolls of Record Collecting!: Super Rarities and Unisseued Gems of the 1920s and 1930s.* Quite a hodgepodge, united as the title suggests not by genre but merely by how hard the records are to find, never a good sign, but I'm liking pretty much all of it regardless and loving lots of it, including tracks by Dock Boggs, Andrew & Jim Baxter, Ollis Martinn, the Three Stripped Gears, and especially Wilmer Watts and the Lonely Eagles. Those are all on disc 1; haven't touched disc 2 yet.

xhuxk, Tuesday, 25 April 2006 22:11 (eighteen years ago) link

Judging by their names,The Lonely Eagles c'est moi (ditto the Three Stripped Gears). R.Crumb did a really funny scarey comic feature in the New Yorker recently, about him and Aline visiting their daughter in Manhattan. It sure looked real.One of daughter's neighbors is a girl tattooed blue, all up and down one side of her shaved crown and face and neck. R "But, do you have trouble getting a job?" Daughter: "Oh, DAD!" She could join the Blue Man Group, if she keeps getting tattooed; she's sure the right shade of blue. Later, they're walking down the street, and he's getting hungry, and spots an Entremann's pastry box. So he opens it up, "It's full of human shit!" But overall, the visit seemed go fairly well, as these things go. Anthony, I just meant, from what little I've read about Josh Turner, he's worked in the biz, getting ready to be a full-time performer, like those others did. Here's the song I was thinking of:
The Little Black Train
There's a little black train a comin
Set your business right
There's a little black train a comin
And it may be here tonight
Go tell that ball room lady
All dressed in the worldly pride
That death's dark train is coming
Prepare to take a ride
God said to Hezkiah
A message from on high
You better set your house in order
For you must surely die
He turned to the wall in weeping
We see and hear his tears
He got his business fixed all right
God spared him fifteen years
We see that train with engine
And one small baggage car
Your idle thoughts and wicked deeds
Will stop at the judgement bar
That poor young man in darkness
Cares not for the gospel light
Til suddenly he hears the whistle blow
And the little black train in sight
Have mercy on me Lord
Please come and set me right
Before he got his business fixed
The train rolled in that night.

don, Wednesday, 26 April 2006 01:41 (eighteen years ago) link

So okay, here are some show preview listings that I wrote for my former publication of employment in the past seven years that for some reason never ran (longer explanation on metal thread. Okay not that much longer.) I may or may not agree with these now. (also, most of them are more folkie than country I guess, but there is no rolling folk thread):

ALINA SIMONE --- Passive-aggressive, apparently humorless art-song emoting, from a gloomy gal born in the Ukraine who grew up in Massachusetts and decorates her EP’s five songs with lap steel, violin, and farfisa parts.

SUGARPINE -- Brooklyn alt-country, probably rock enough for Drive-By Truckers or Bottle Rockets fans, if not Montgomery Gentry or Lynyrd Skynyrd fans. Singing's a bit bland, and sadly "Effigy" is not a Creedence cover. But in the early '80s, they would've been called cowpunk, lumped with Rank and File or Jason & the Scorchers. And "Manhattan Special" even sounds kinda funky at first.

REV. HORTON HEAT -- This Texas retrobilly guitar vet, who quite possibly peaked with his charbroiled Subpop *Smoke 'Em If You Got *Em* way back in 1991, celebrates his new Christmas CD, which doesn't sound half as raunchy as you'd hope.

ELIZABETH COOK -- This photogenic Florida-born second-generation retro-country hopeful has predictable smidgens of Loretta and Dolly in her inflections, but, on *This Side on the Moon*, not much memorable in her words or tunes. A poppier producer would help.

BRIAN KEANE --- Despite going shirtless on his CD cover, Brian has the commendable distinction of being a local singer-songster who is not hard to take, thanks in part to his sense of rhythm. His sound has blues, soul, and Latin in it, albiet via Paul Simon and Jackson Browne and Counting Crows. And he knows Mexico and small towns can be good subject matter.

JESS MCAVOY -- At first the first song on this Aussie bird's CD seemed to say "You could arrange your world to consist of Opening Day," and I thought, "cool, a song about a boyfriend who likes baseball too much!" But nope, the lyric sheet says "opening doors," oh well. And her sometimes-slightly-cello-and-trumpet-jazzed folk-trope unspecifics continue from there.

NORFOLK AND WESTERN -- This Oregon boy and girl call their album *Dusk in Cold Parlours,* but manage to scare more life out of their apparent Leonard Cohen and John Cale and Appalachia and minimalism influences than most indie drone-folkies.

RON SUNSHINE -- Cornball-not-entirely-on-purpose NY (ten-piece-) swingbandleader who seems to miss the annoying jump-blues revival from a few years ago. He's recorded with the P-Funk horns, and croons about drugs and abominable snowmen.

LEAH CALLAHAN -- Former indie-rock grrrl goes the smokey-room jazz-cabaret lounge-revival-all-over-again shtick route.

CHRISTOPHER JAK -- This young strummer, who began in Jersey then spent time in Colorado before landing in these parts, covers Cyndi Lauper's "Time After Time" and sings both verses and stanzas about his unbelievably deep feelings

MARLY'S ANGELS -- You'd think the Carole King comparisons plus Steely Dan comparisons plus Norah Jones comparisons plus that beret on her head might add up to Rickie Lee Jones, but local writer-warbler-pianist Marlys Hornick just ain't crazy-funky-beatnik enough for that. Sincerity with jazz changes; should hire a saxophone player.

THE TYDE -- The debut CD, *Once*, by these shambling and jangling crystal-canyon Los Angelenos (some of 'em moonlighting members of Beachwood Sparks) was named 44th best album of 2001 by morons at *NME.* Their new CD is called *Twice* (get it?), and is quite twee. Though "Henry V111" is oddly not a Herman and the Hermits cover.

xhuxk, Wednesday, 26 April 2006 11:26 (eighteen years ago) link

OK, in the spirit of Chuck's post, here's a brief take on someone I'd considered pitching him (and might still pitch to his former employer):

REVEREND GLASSEYE Our Lady of the Broken Spine: Way way better than its satirical title and campy drama-club intro vocals led me to expect. Which doesn't make this super amazing, given the lowness of the expectations and given that the campiness is basically a cover for a voice that has no other way to achieve extravagance. Nonetheless, this is passionate music, drenched in Mexican horns that have been colored with Romanian (or some such) density. Country & (spaghetti) western guitar boogie is a frequent spice.

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Thursday, 27 April 2006 00:28 (eighteen years ago) link

That's the right length, but you gotta have quotes. ("Frequent Spice is a gas to work with," laughs Tom Glasseye.)

don, Thursday, 27 April 2006 03:04 (eighteen years ago) link

more R. Crumb: saw Marley's Ghost do a short, 6-song set at Douglas Corner last night--Americana Tonite radio broadcast with 3 other performers, all forgettable (first solo singer, Diana Something, had a nice catch in her voice and finished off one song, "He Called Me Pony" I think, with Native American humming of some kind or another) except Marley. I find their latest "Spooked" pretty fine--especially the original tunes like "Ballad of Johnny Hallyday," which they did. They have a drummer who plays drums and keyboards, at the same time! Their vocal blend was nicely idiosyncratic, they use pedal steel in a totally non-doctrinaire way, and their version of Paul Kennerley's "High Walls" is one of the great I-ain't-going-to-prison songs. And they look appealingly motley: Ed, the pedal-steel player (he runs the studio, Sage Arts, in Washington State, and was telling me about all this amazing vintage tube mixing board they have now, and had all their previous 7 CDs along with various solo efforts for sale) is bald, thin, intense and wore a green do-rag during the performance; one is hulking and completely bald and very friendly-looking, one is "normal" with glasses, etc. It's clear that neo-folkieism has gone into areas previously unexplored. I hope they make a go of promoting this record (they sold no CDs last night, not the venue for it, since things move quickly for radio and there were only 25 people there anyway), since Ryko is distributing and they have Van Dyke Parks as producer, Crumb cover art, guest appearances on the record by the great bassist Buell Niedlinger and Bill Frisell...

they dedicated one song to Jack Clement, who came in to catch their set and sat next to us. I went up and shook Mr. Clement's hand, too, after they were through.

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Thursday, 27 April 2006 15:20 (eighteen years ago) link

I saw Clement play last year, which I really enjoyed.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Thursday, 27 April 2006 19:19 (eighteen years ago) link

yeah, he did a good set on Woodsongs, which is often (not always!) a real good Public Radio concert show, if you can get used to the host's own opening numbers (only one song per show; he doesn't make the guests duet with him, unlike Garrison Kellior). Eh, Edd, xxhuxx and I were unable to groove with Marley's lead singer for long, despite many good songs, and I don't think I would've noticed the presence of those big names if they weren't listed. (Codger singer didn't inprove my own aging alertness.)But maybe they'll turn up on a live show,and that might work better. Finally unearthed the Maybelles' press package, and their White Trash Jenny is tray fetching.(Not that they'd be likely to fetch me a tray, or if they did, might well be more than I bargained for). Despite title, not kitschy at all, though lots of sly fun. And "Twin Cousins" certainly related to the truth about (at least) one branch of my own hillbient family tree. (It's not as much cousins, at least not at first, but starts like Number One Son of Family A marries Number Three Daughter of Family B, whose big brother then marries Number One Daughter of Family B,etc. etc., and the cousins of As and cousins of Bs may also factor in.)Personal-is-poitical themes meld with older-seeming story songs, love songs, etc. As with garage-glam etc., my fave Appalachoids these days seem to have mostly female voices: Uncle Earl, Polecat Creek, Michelle Nixon & Drive, Peasall Sisters, Freakwater, Mollys when they were in the mode (I've mentioned all these on this and/or prev Rolling Countries).Mostly string band, with room for Coy Dog's "slide guitar and hillbilly guitar," and Mike West's banjo, mandolin, and bandjola;but also,Track 9 features ripple-woogie (a bit quieter than boogie-woogie)piano; and trumpet that's so limber I keep thinking it's trombone. The former has a Trailer Bride feel.(As in the TB song with the line, "She used to be real smart!" But this doesn't have that anxiety.)"Walkin' Blues," with Warren Byrom's trumpet, is a bit like "Walkin' After Midnight," but not too much, and is also like one of Lil Mo and the Monicats' better tracks.(Lil Mo can be too cutesy, unlike the Maybelles.) So xhuxx, I saw how to contact Jan Bell, but what's Melissa Carper up to these days? Oh yeah, speaking of non-standard steel guitar, Turner South's Music Road is rerunning those xpost Truckers and Marty Stuart sets tonight, an hour each, back to back, 7-9 (Central Standard Time, that is).

don, Thursday, 27 April 2006 20:10 (eighteen years ago) link

Dang, that's what I get for depending on the Truckers' email-herald. First hour is actually Paul Thorn, who wrote Sawyer Brown's "Mission Temple Fireworks Stand, " and has been getting better as a performer. (I mentioned his spooky live "Mood Ring" upthread.) Now he's got the best band I've heard him with: a buzzy grunty shuffle for openers, and then a Steely Feat: "I didn't sleep with your wife, we stayed awake all night, she was calling you name, Joe, while I was holdin' her tight." Joe being a guy in the sudience whom he just met; fortunately, his wife is a good sport, unlike in the song, it might seem, but then it sounds like her calling Joe's name was part of the turnon for Paul. Fixing to have special guest Elvin Bishop, later "Devil McClinton."(Maybe the second set's the actual rerun from last week? Hope it's Marty's, I missed some of that.)

don, Thursday, 27 April 2006 23:49 (eighteen years ago) link

watching the bio on dolly, the stat that only 13 women are in the country music hall of fame: which makes my jaw drop--who are they missing: http://www.infoplease.com/ipea/A0151071.html

anthony easton (anthony), Saturday, 29 April 2006 05:59 (eighteen years ago) link

just posted this on the metal thread:

nly NEW hard rock/metal album i've played much in the past few days is *rebel meets rebel* by d.a.c. (as in david allan coe) and c.f.h. (as in cowboys from hell, which means dimebag darrell who is dead plus vinnie paul who is i think his brother on drums and rex brown who may or may not be in pantera--how the hell would i know?--on bass). at first i thought, "uh, nice try, coe can't sing anymore, but at least he sings better than phil anselmo", but then i decided it doesn't really matter; coe *doesn't* have the voice he used to have, the point's moot in this kind of biker rock (heaviest and/or funkiest and most successfully boogiefied in "heart worn highway" which is actually kinda jazzy in a '70s hard rock way; "cowboys do more dope" with its shouted anthem chorus about how country rocks harder than rock these days and also takes more drugs; "cherokee city" about how people fucked over the native americans; "time" which is a great hendrix rip with "ball of confusion"-meets-hombres rhyme-rapping and roky erikson-style observations about "alien forces inside my brain"); i also really like "arizona rivers" (fluttery psych-blues not far from j.d. blackfoot's CD last year) and "nyc blues" (understated talk-vocal walk through the east village a la peter laughner or whoever about seeing weirdos with blue hair, namedropping cowboy junkies probably because d.a.c. likes their name then talks about prince and purple rain and ends the album afterwards with a snippet of an apparently shitty song called "proud to be an american" by some band called pumpjack, played over the car radio which doesn't make sense because it's not a song about driving, but this is still like when rappers end their album with part of a new rap song by their unknown rapper pal who has an album coming out next year, so it's a neat idea. also: "nothin to lose" has female sex moans in it; "rebel meets rebel" is more heavy biker funk; "one night stand" is more heavy rock'n'roll with a "day tripper" riff and a verse that says one night stands aren't just for sleeping with women but also for bands (presumably like this one-off here); "get outta my life" isn't horrible but hank williams III's dumbass fred durst imitation in it is (what do people see in that dork again?); "no compromise" has more talked verses. in fact, in general, coe talks as much as he sings, which is a good idea. so: way better than any pantera album; also way better than the EP that coe made with kid rock a couple years ago (which i got sent a CD-R advance of; don't think it ever came out.)

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just didn't post this on the metal thread:

weird thing is, every once in a while, when i had the rebel meets rebel song in my CD changer, a song would come up where i'd say, "okay, THIS is how david allan coe used to sing". but inevitably the song wouldn't be by coe, but rather by jamey johnson, whose album i wound up liking a lot. at first i wondered whether the coe influence was just my imagination, but then eventually i noticed that johnson drops coe's name at the end of his own most biker-funked song "rebelicious," and i was vindicated. i can't believe that piece of butterfly-kisses fatherhood sap "the dollar" (which i complain about above) was/is both the hit and christgau's choice cut on this thing; it's like the worst song on here, just about (and the reason i took so long to listen to the rest)! and "keeping up with the jonesin." which is better but is still pretty damn cornball though it seems to be the other song everybody talks about, is hardly one of the best. i'd pick "redneck side of me" (the other one that reminded me of coe), "back to caroline" (hard hard honk tonk), ""flying silver eagle" (maybe the best divorce song of '06 so far). "ray's juke joint" (anti-hip-hop. pro hidden bar in the woods a la that black sage album don and i discussed up above), and "rebelicious" itself. gospel closer "lead me home" is nice too, as gospel closers go. way better album than i expected it to be; probably has a good shot of making my '06 country top ten if i make one this year. up there with toby keith, dale watson, carrie underwood.

xhuxk, Monday, 1 May 2006 20:31 (eighteen years ago) link

watching the bio on dolly, the stat that only 13 women are in the country music hall of fame: which makes my jaw drop--who are they missing: http://www.infoplease.com/ipea/A0151071.html

Emmy Lou will get in this year or the next. Next will be Rosanne or Alison, but not sure after that. I would vote for Sammi Smith but no one is asking me. If the Chicks can stay together for 10 more years, they'll make it.

Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Monday, 1 May 2006 21:16 (eighteen years ago) link

xpost We can always do an ILX Best Of Country, if Himes doesn't do one (ditto a Best Of Everything...)I'll have to try to get the Coe; what label is he on this time? Hank III's first two albums are good, especially Risin'or Rising Outlaw, where he covers Wayne Hancock and has good collabs; a few too many solo-written on Lovesick Broke & Driftin(than seemed when I reviewed it in Voice, but still pretty good, and his contributions to the ZZ Top trib (still sounds good as when I reviewed thatun for Voice), Hank Sr. trib,and the Three Hanks album, Men With Broken Hearts. (Still haven't listened to his latest). Basically cartoony, but with sufficient realness in shading, when needed. The second hour of that Turner South show (Music Road) wasn't a rerun of Truckers or Marty Stuart, but a newun of Bobby Bare Jr., with guest Billy Joe Shaver. Bobby Jr.'s got his shading kinda messed up: he's trying to be whimsically-poigant-to-vice-versa, but he shoulda done some covers, like his Dad. Basically like an extention of Dad's version of "Everybody's Talking," with the weirdo intro as a given all through, at least as a premise. As actually works out, it's a regular alt country x rock combo with a baritone sax, sometimes in unison, sometimes in harmony, with guitars and bass. Kinda klunky,but might be more the songs' fault: "Sonny sings a song to Cher, about a melancholy bear, we're all sad sacks of empathy." Speak for yourself, or better yet cover some some Sonny & Cher; they did some interesting country, for inst)(they tried to do an acoustic "Ride Me Down Easy" with Billy Joe, but couldn't follow him, since it wasn't faux-prog enough)

don, Monday, 1 May 2006 21:29 (eighteen years ago) link

so i just listened to the screaming blue messiahs's *gun shy* for the first time in at least a decade and a half (bought a used vinyl copy in seattle two weeks ago), and seemingly the song that "kerosene" by miranda lambert kept reminding me of last year (more for its groove than its riff, apparently) is "someone to talk to," the chorus of which goes "if i die in a combat zone, box me and send me home/if i die on the russian front, bury me with a russian cunt." it's also one of the harder rocking songs on the album (as is the closer, "killer born man"), which album, in general, doesn't rock nearly as hard as i remembered it doing. the LP also has more country referents than i remembered -- a cover-sort-of of hank williams's "you're gonna change," an opener that says "i do believe that country air is the only fit to breathe," a rockabilly tune called "president kennedy's smile." basically what i guess they did was take fall/mekons/three johns/nightingales dada and birthday party backwoods murder shtick and made it less arty, which is okay -- kicks harder than indie rock, not as hard as pub rock (well, except for the last three songs or so, starting with the "kerosene" one.) i think some of the three guys in the band had some connection to an earlier pub rock band called motor boys motor. and though they'll use diddley or funk or reggae or as i said rockabilly rhythms, the music really doesn't have all that much boogie to it; i played it right after zz top's new wave LP *el loco,* and no way art they in the same class. the guitars never really haul off and punch you in the sucker, not even in those final tracks. also, as i pointed out on the metal thread, frank blank totally stole the singer's haircut. (christgau compared them to the clash, i think; there' a pinch of that too, i guess.)

xhuxk, Monday, 1 May 2006 23:38 (eighteen years ago) link

(on the other hand, it's worth noting that pretty much all the songs sounded familiar after 15 or 20 years, and i don't remember being *completely* obsessed with the album when it first came out, so that says a lot about the band's ability to write quality hooks. the lyrics are generally fairly straightforward and not buried in bullshit, too, which is probably part of what i mean about being less arty than the fall or the mekons etc. and even though their melodies and singing aren't nearly as pretty as the clash's could be, i can see how their openness to different rhythms -- and the mere fact of their having a rhythm section, never something to be taken for granted from british people -- could remind xgau of the clash. unlike, say, rancid, they really don't *sound* like the clash. but they do have a certain clashiness nonethless. one of their songs is even called "smash the marketplace.")

xhuxk, Tuesday, 2 May 2006 00:15 (eighteen years ago) link

Yeah in the 80s,you mentioned Motor Boys Motor as an ancestor, and said you preferred them to Messiahs. What label is the new Coe on?

don, Tuesday, 2 May 2006 00:22 (eighteen years ago) link

I did??? Wow, you have a better memory than I do, Don. (Which may not be saying much. Though I do vaguely remember reviewing their sub-par second or third album in Creem.)

Rebel Meets Rebel is on Big Vin Records, which for all I know was invented just for this...

xhuxk, Tuesday, 2 May 2006 00:29 (eighteen years ago) link

Yeah, you mentioned it in a letter. I was like, "Gawsh! This new SBM is good!" And you were so,"Ehhh, I liked 'em better in Motor Boys Motor." Damn! ("Big Vin"? How classy. Prob named after somebody's [Big Vin's] favorite biker. Thanks)

don, Tuesday, 2 May 2006 02:39 (eighteen years ago) link

Big Vin is Dimebag's brother, Pantera's drummer and on the record you're talking about, whatever it is. Presumably, he's signing all the checks.

George 'the Animal' Steele, Tuesday, 2 May 2006 04:31 (eighteen years ago) link

so...k. wilder, *caffeine & country music,* from either 2004 or 2005 depending on which URL you believe (cdbaby, which is rebooting now or i'd post a link -- hey, searching is easy you know) says 2005. her 2001 album *blue ridge dream* was coffee-shop blues-folk, tasteful and genteel, with tunes/grooves sometimes reminscent of slowed-down versions of "baby please don't go" or "house of the rising sun" (both about new orleans!), but i couldn't get into it. *caffeine & country music* is more tuneful, more shameless, weirder, and better. the big overriding concept, judging from the inner sleeve which recommends establishments (mostly mom-and-pop but also the starbuck's on melrose in l.a. -- a clue about who she hopes/hoped would market the album? and by the way its music totally would fit into the starbuck's aesthetic) around the country plus one in the United Arab Emirites, is COFFEE, mentioned not just in the somewhat hokey smalltown-music-theatre-style-country (think terry allen without the phD in foreign relations or whatever he's got and if he sounded like mary-chapin carpenter, who is definitely a reference point all over this album) title track but it a few other songs too; other tracks (for instance the also somewhat hokey love song "greatest surprise" where she seems to compare her man to french fries with ketchup, and it's a compliment, and the spoken-word shaggy-dog story closer "ms. willie may's biscuits," where attempts a vaguely irksome though no doubt well-meaning african-american dialect at the end) suggest k. wilder (who judging from photos is no spring chicken, but then neither am i, so good for her) spends a lot of her travel time in diners as well. So there's a certain small-town bohemian air to this thing; reminds of Vermont, though K. is apparently from Virginia (which might be similar to Vermont for all I know). She does two consecutive really really good songs about small towns - "Dime Box, Texas" then "Sylvatus," the latter of which doesn't name the state (like Springfield on the Simpsons!), but says the town's got one stoplight and the kids want to get the hell out of there to be a nurse and a trucker and a radio man; reminds me of a great article in the Sunday Times magazine I read a couple weeks ago about small towns in North Dakota being abandoned. Pretty soon, the old man who does a spoken part in that song says, there will be only him and his wife left, and they might not even have social security left to keep them company. Which is a politcal statement, obviously, as is the next song, "Sold Down the River," which starts out talking about "town to town, factories closing down," blaming it on jobs going overseas and learning Chinese, which might be interpreted as protectionist and maybe even xenophobic (hey, Chinese people need jobs too!) but is not necessarily inaccurate; mood of the song, oddly, reminds me a little of "I Must Not Think Bad Thoughts" by X, who also had their protectionist/xenophobic (at least in re: American Rock not British pop!) tendencies on *More Fun in the New World.* There's also a spoken part (K. calls some guy a tall glass of water) in the beginning of "Come Out and Dance," which then immediately turns into buffalo gals going round the outside and do-si-do-ing their partners. And there's a song (one of the album's more conventionally pop-rock-country) about a breakdown that turns out to be a about a car breaking down, and one about a hurricane that suggests that girls from south (like my better half, in her band; also Mary Chapin-Carpenter, in my her zydeco tribute "Down at the Twist and Shout" - though Mary may not actually be Southern per se, come to think of it - didn't she go to Brown University or something like that?) understand hurricanes a lot more than I do, since hurricanes were never part of my life.

Also listened this morning to local EP by Lorraine Leckie and her Demons -- pretty decent Hank Wiliams "Lost Highway" cover at the end which reminds me of the Mekons's version (though maybe they changed the name? On *Fear and Whiskey* I think) and definitely captures the cheating-on theme of the song well, though most of the EP is more goth-folk in a Tori/Sinead mode, interesting when the instruments stretch themselves into drones at ends of songs but still not really my cup of tea. I do like "Rainbow," though, which has an AC/DC riff and a catchy rapped chorus that's shouted and not detached, and hence rocks.

xhuxk, Tuesday, 2 May 2006 14:13 (eighteen years ago) link

oh yeah, i should also mention that "Sylvatus" is not only my favorite track on the K. Wilder album, but also by far its *darkest* (and possibly its slowest) track. That almost NEVER happens with me. (Though her dark slow stuff on her previous album made me shrug.)

and okay, here's the cdbaby link, you lazybones:

http://cdbaby.com/cd/kwilder3

xhuxk, Tuesday, 2 May 2006 16:25 (eighteen years ago) link

and that page actually places her whereabouts in florida, though she apparently spends plenty of time in virginia (and other places) as well, judging from her CDs and CD sleeves.

xhuxk, Tuesday, 2 May 2006 16:27 (eighteen years ago) link

"small-town bohemian, reminds of Vermont, though K. is from Virginia": hey maan, we're ever'where. Sasha in May 1 New Yorker likes the music but is frustrated by "overly impressionistic" lyrics (and some mushy themes)on most of new Chicks, esp. since (almost?) all are co-writes, minus the detail etc. of excellent covers chosen for their previous albums.(I'd worried about that too; plus they seem to have re-recorded "I Hope" without Robert Randolph, judging by what Kevin C. said on countryuniverse a while back.) "For lesser artists, an album this harmonically confident would be a coup. In the case of the Dixie Chicks, it's disappointing, like watching Muhammad Ali hurt a man's feelings." Oooh! But maybe I'll like it better than he does, as has happened before. Dang.

don, Tuesday, 2 May 2006 20:06 (eighteen years ago) link

first (or at least self-titled) (and, in the case of my copy, autographed) leanne womack album i bought in princeton a month or two ago makes me wonder (as i discussed way back at the start of this thread) why anybody ever thought she was anything but a pop-country singer to begin with. i mean, there is are "classic" country reference points in some of the slower songs (for instance the abandoned wife or maybe other-woman lament "am i the only thing that you've done wrong", an absolute heartbreaker), but no more than with most Nashville gals in the mid/late '90s, as far as my ears can tell. And "buckaroo" (another one of my favorites) and "you've got to talk to me" and "trouble's here" (which swipes alan jackson's surfy swampy "chatahoochie" riff) aren't much less bouncy than most shania twain. "a man with 18 wheels" is more wife-country, with a good "house that Peterbilt" pun and a mini Diddley beat; closer "Get Up in Jesus' Name" is a really energetic gospel rocker; "Montgomery to Memphis" (which i mentioned up above) has a really good lyric and less good music (i.e., no hook) to go with it. And Leanne looks totally adorable in pretty much all the photos in the inner sleeve.

True Brothers' *Wanted: Country Outlaw Tribute* is another good cdbaby country CD, with adequate-to-great obligatory covers of "Take This Job and Shove It," "You Never Even Called Me By My Name," "Just Good Old Boys," "Older Women," and (most suprisingly) the Swingin' Medallions "Double Shot of My Baby's Love" (one of my favorite songs in the world, though they don't make it sound like anywhere near as much a drunken frat party as the Medallions did; still, I love that they cover it at all and wonder if anybody else considers it country - where were the Medallions from, Memphis or somewhere? Louisiana? I forget). There are also some apparent covers of novelty songs I don't remember hearing before -- "Marie Laveau", a goofy Shel Silverstein song about looking as ugly as your mom or something, and "Rub It In," which appears to be mainly about suntan lotion and instructs you to rub it on their back and their sacroliliac. And the album closes with an original called "Country Outlaw Theme" where they talk about how their dad thought all country singers should be clean shaven with short hair, but then the True Bros (who are true bros, apparently) started listening to Willie and Waylon and Kinky and Bobby Bare after school, and now Big N Rich and Montgomery Gentry and Toby are "throwbacks" to the original outlaws. Not sure if anybody put it that way before, certainly not in a song.

What's weird is that on the cover of the *Wanted* album (from last year) the True Bros LOOK like hairy scraggly dirty outlaws, but on the cover of their *Hymns and Other Songs We Wrote Ourselves* from 2003 they look like super-clean-cut hee-hawing old-time country (preacher?) dorks in gold (lame'? what does lame' look like?) suits. So at first you think it's going to be a religious record, which it sometimes is, but then you notice there's a real good song about Dorian Gray ("based on the novel by Oscar Wilde") and a real good one about Jecklyl and Hyde and a real good one about how if you marry a banjo-pickin mama she might not do anything else but play banjo, not even cook. And others about getting married and dad getting buried next to a tree so he can be next to his wife for eternity. And other songs *are* Jesus songs, often talked like a rhyming sermon like that old deck-of-cards song (which might not have rhymed, come to think of it) and sometimes acapella (with Louvin/Delmore style brother harmonies); "Six Steps to Heaven" is my faovrite worship one so far, but there are 16 tracks (all fairly short) on the album, and I haven't really absorbed all of it. Instrumentation is fast catchy bluegrass, no showoff bullshit whatsoever. Most of the songs sound like forgotten old obscurities, but songwriting credits are mostly all "Jacky, Roger and Teresa True" except for "A Christmas Wish" by Ricky Dunn, and "missing You/Hats off to Web," which is said to be based on a Red Sovine tune.

Religon stuff on Albert Lee's new *Road Runner* (at least 75 percent a country CD, by an old rocker who appears to be born again or at least is doing a pretty good imitation of being born again) are a lot more reverent and boring. The stuff on the album I kind of like is the Junior Walker title cover, the Billy Burnette and Delbert McLinton songs that sort of sound like 1979 Dave Edmunds rockabilly but not as good, and the seven-minute instrumental guitar jam solo "Payola Blues." But even those I can take or leave, and the more reverent soft-rock (including numbers by Leo Kottke, Richard Thompson, and a horrible John Hiatt one called "Rock of Your Love", presumably from after Hiatt started sucking) are way too hard to get through. Ten Years After CD from last year was way, way more fun.

xhuxk, Thursday, 4 May 2006 19:55 (eighteen years ago) link

(and so was the alvin lee album last year, probably.)

xhuxk, Thursday, 4 May 2006 20:05 (eighteen years ago) link

always thought of the Swingin Medallions as being from Birmingham, I think that's right. "Rub It In" was a Top Forty hit down here in the early 70s; I wanna say it was by Billy Joe Royal, but think it was Billy or Joey Somebody Else. "Marie Laveau" was popular too; Bobby Bare? Think so. Always did seem like those current guys did want to be thought of as heirs to the Outlaws. (and Kid Rock looked real happy when Hank Jr. crooned about him as "my rebel son" on their Crossroads). But they might not like the word "throwbacks": throwbacks to something all bold and progressive? So they're really Wynton Marsalis? Well, he's good sometimes. Now all they gotta do is take turns conducting a Outlaw Studies lab band at Belmont U.(Which presented a student orchestra and bluegrass ensemble to back special guest Josh Turner on a Christmas special in 05.Not that Josh is an Outlaw, but the academy can't be far away from that aspect of country music practice; I 'magine Cultural Theorists are already on it.But, judging from your description, the True Brothers seem like they're keeping up, even/especially if home schooled.)

don, Friday, 5 May 2006 04:15 (eighteen years ago) link

Joel Whitburn's Top 40 book says Swingin' Medallions were from North Carolina (though the True Brothers' cdbaby page attributes "Double Shot" to Joe Stampley, who I never knew did a version of it), and also says that "Rub It In" went #16 pop for another North Carolinan, Billy "Crash" Craddock, in 1974 (odd, then, that I never consciouosly heard it before -- I wonder if it was more a regional hit?) True Brothers are North Carolinans too, it turns out. (And it also occurs to me that some of the songs they cover -- "Older Women," for one -- aren't really outlaw songs at all, or at least I sure never thought of them that way. Hell, "Younger Men" by K.T. Oslin is more outlaw than "Older Women," isn't it?) Here's the page:

http://cdbaby.com/cd/truebros2

xhuxk, Friday, 5 May 2006 11:06 (eighteen years ago) link

Probably slightly off topic but has the Richard Hawley album made it Stateside?

Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Friday, 5 May 2006 13:01 (eighteen years ago) link

a couple other stray true brothers notes: *wanted,* their outlaw album, opens with another good rowdy original (at least i assume it's original; credited to "ricky dunn, jacky and teresa true") called "my witness is jack daniels" where the guy's defending himself against his wife, who's accusing him of cheating. and on their *hymns and other songs we wrote ourselves* (apparently, it turns out, explicitly a compilation of original songs, some previously released -- hence, the title), the *worst* (and sappiest, and most humorless) song is the one they didn't write themselves -- the bonus track "a christmas wish." two more that hit me that i didn't mention above are "let my childen go," a totally upbeat biblical parable about Israelites, the pharoah, and all kinds of different plagues (which they enumerate in detail) and "it wouldn't be the same," which has the weathered feel and melody of some old glen campbell or kris kristoferson ballad or something, or maybe "it never rains in southern california" by albert hammond.

two albums kicking my ass this morning that i found out about not through cdbaby, but through myspace of all places (nope, i don't have a page, and have no intention of getting one, but i figured out how to do the music search): victory brothers' *kowboyz de loz angeleez* (probably the best big n rich *horse of a different color* substitute I've ever heard including ones by big n rich, and now vying with leanne kingwell as my album of the year) and penny dale's *undaunted* (the best stevie nicks album i've ever heard by a country singer, probably, and an immediate 2006 top ten candidate.) lots to say about these two, eventually, but i'll hold off for now.

also really liking irma thomas's *after the rain* on rounder, the "rain" obviously being katrina, though i kind of hate the mooshy shelter-from-storm piano ballad the album ends with though i do hope it provides solace to new orleans. what i love so far is "flowers" (soul about flowers on roadsides after car crashes, with a sound that i swear reminds me of "uncle tom's cabin" by warrant), "make me a pallet on the floor" (cheating with a painter, wow), "till i can't take it anymore" (country music in a soul voice, about how "you work your thing so well/I dream of heaven and live here in hell"), "these honey dos" (vampy bawdy boogie woogie where the honey dos are at first temptations but wind up also being about manners like please and thank you), and "stone survivor" (which is just plain funky).

xhuxk, Friday, 5 May 2006 14:32 (eighteen years ago) link

And Irma also does an extremely gorgeous version of "I Count the Tears" (the "na-na-na-na-na-na late at night" song) by the Drifters..

xhxuk, Friday, 5 May 2006 16:00 (eighteen years ago) link

And she also does "Another Man Done Gone," a trad blues tune I swear I've heard hundreds of times by some huge classic rock group (Creem? Zep? the Allmans? somebody...), though no classic rock groups seem to be listed on AMG as doing it, so maybe whoever did it (which will probably hit me as really obvious once I found out) did it under a different title or something, or maybe with different words? (Also, I'm thinking now that maybe "These Honey Dos" and "Stone Survivor" and the palette one aren't quite at the level of the Warrant one and the country one and the Drifters one, but they're close.) (Likewise, Leann Womack's bouncy tracks on her debut probably aren't quite as bouncy as Shania like I suggested above, but they're close, too.)

xhuxk, Friday, 5 May 2006 17:21 (eighteen years ago) link

I wrote this sort of for no depression but it got spiked, cause i like to use fuck and cause its horribly out of date:

Willie Nelson has always deconstructed westerns, and maintained a
belief in telling the truth about places buried under their own
mythology. It is found on his album, the Red Headed Stranger and in
any number of singles over decades. It is found, in his low, lean and
hungry version of the traditional ballad "He was a Friend of Mine",
which could so easily have been dismissed, because of its lyrics, and
because of its placement on the soundtrack to that Heath and Jake
movie. After his soundtrack work, he released, on Howard Stern and
then i-tunes, a cover of the cult classic outlaw tune Cowboys are
Frequently Secretly Fond of Each Other. The two songs entwine, and
emerge as one text, working out familiar themes: the decimation that
unexpected desire can cause, ideas of masculinity and honour, the
implications of dereliction of duty, and larger, more formal concerns
of isolation, landscape and comfort.

Cowboys…is the rare song that actually talks about what it means to
fuck the same gender on the prairies. Fuck in any number of ways, fuck
because they love each other, fuck because they are lonely, fuck
because they want to be kept literally warm or have a companion, or to
continue their lives outside the mainstream, as another kind of
outlaws. Like any number of us, it is about what happens when others
cannot handle the fluidity and dangerous nature of desire. The song is
a classic, because it catalogs the options for how bodies fit
together, and because it acknowledges that some of the options mean
that "there's always someone who says what the others just whisper/and
mostly that someone is the first one to be shot down dead"

The original is done in waltz time, and has a theatrical winking and
nodding. The music has the same kind of music hall extravagance that
caused Jobraith to lose his career, and 30 years later for Rufus
Wainwright to have one. (Think of it as a less secure, less ambiguous,
less haunting version of the Magnetic Field's Papa was a Rodeo.) The
slippages of gender, sexuality, and desire emphasized here are
bog-standard Freud, lines like "I believe to my soul/there is a
feminine/and inside every lady/there is a deep manly voice/ to be made
clear", maintain gay men really want to be women and vice versa line
that seems so old fashioned in the land of Brokeback and the
International Gay Rodeo Association.

The satisfaction in male companionship is a central theme in the both
songs, in the film, in westerns in general. The codes of masculinity
are Byzantine and violations of these codes are rewarded by violence.
One of the reasons why Matthew Sheppard was left to die in that field
in Wisconsin was the difference between city boys and country boys,
between those who went to college, and those who were working men.
Watching Brokeback Mountain, Ang Lee is as aware of this; as is Ned
Sublette (the songwriter of Cowboys…) the hardness of the lovemaking,
and the wrestling/shoving/physicality of the foreplay in the movie
show this. He was also wise choosing the solidity of Willie Nelson to
sing over the credits, as a coda, a song that expressed issues of
masculinity, obliquely. He was a Friend of Mine, comes from the ground
of the west. It does not have an author, and the narrative is basic
narrative, with little detail, some in cliché. He sings it with great
tenderness, but little directness (as opposed to Dylan, who was never
really tender).

Like most ballads, the key to "He was a Friend of Mine", is the
repetition of the chorus. The lines "he never did wrong/a thousand
miles at home, and he never harmed no one" have an old fashioned,
permanence—a depth of hagiography that was never really existent in
either Clint Eastwood or in Roy Rogers. The two songs here are never
really about fucking, but about how to live integrously in a land that
rewards anything but what it says it does.

Both performances then are about what the Quakers would call speaking
truth to power, and farmers I know, would call handling your own shit.
The laconic taciturn outside of the cowboy hides a soft center. There
is an effort to keep secrets, to cause no trouble. There is something
of the private text, spoken softly amongst friends, in He was a Friend
of Mine, and Willie infuses all of the privacy, the sadness and the
shock, in the line "Stoles away and cries". There is tension between
being quietly silent and actually processing grief, a tension that
violates the code of the west, just as admitting that the desires that
one cowboy has for another, may not only be geographic convenience,
but about lust.

This might be Willie Nelson's American Recordings moment, a desire to
push himself away from old complacencies, and old audiences. It often
happens when someone's physical instrument is so ragged, and when the
desire is to communicate differently Nelson's voice is shot. But how
ragged he sounds here, and how broken he sounds, makes the two songs
even sadder, stronger, more tragic. They are a return to questions
that remain unsolved in the 70s, and their answers are of an old man:
be generous to people, mourn the dead, fight for the living, refuse to
apologize for love and desire. Together, they prove a testament to
Nelson's skills as an interpretive guide, and to someone who really
knows cowboys.

anthony easton (anthony), Friday, 12 May 2006 20:37 (eighteen years ago) link

I've pretty much given up on this thread; feel like I'm talking to a wall almost as much as on the rolling metal thread. But if anybody cares one way or the other anymore, I will say that this week I decided I like the most recent CDs by Hacienda Brothers, Jazzabillies, Angel Rattay, and George Thorogood.

xhuxk, Friday, 12 May 2006 21:07 (eighteen years ago) link

And oh yeah, the Road Hammers, Nancy McCallion, and Grupo Exterminador, too.

xhuxk, Friday, 12 May 2006 21:46 (eighteen years ago) link


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