Old time actors and directors that you were surprised to find out were married to each other once upon a time

I wouldn't count Martin Scorsese and Isabella Rossellini since I believe this is relatively well-known but I certainly would count:
Jeanne Moreau and William Friedkin

As well as Wim Wenders and Ronee Blakley.

And today's big find, Beth Howland and Michael J. Pollard.

I'll have to wrack my brain a bit--I come across these all the time in various books and documentaries.

Paulette Goddard and--wait for it--Burgess Meredith.

Oh, and PJ Soles & Dennis Quaid.

Great one! I'd sell my soul for a couple of years with late-'70s P.J.

Paulette Goddard and--wait for it--Burgess Meredith.

I just recalled walking by the Bobby Van Steakhouse the other day. I almost tried to figure out how to add him and his widow to this thread or spin off a new one but then I remembered and checked that she remarried, so
Elaine Joyce and Neil Simon

(Screenwriters welcome)

The new thread would be called something like Celebrity Couples of the 70s Known Mainly For Appearing on Game Shows

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/dnA74lpIOtE/hqdefault.jpg

Now seen 12 times a day on Buzzr.

Paulette Goddard had the Tramp, the Penguin, and the Pacifist

Ha. Just watched an entire episode of Tattletales with Bobby and Elaine along with Orson Bean and Alejandro Rey and their wives, neither of which I was familiar with.

A lot of the '70s Match Game regulars had surprising spouses at one time or another:

Brett Somers => Jack Klugman
Joyce Bulifant => James McArthur ("Dano" of Hawaii Five-O)
Richard Dawson => Diana Dors

Oh yeah, Dawson & Dors is a great one.

I've known for a long time but initially was surprised that Burt Reynolds was married to Judy Carne of Laugh-In

These are all great, thanks!

Knew Klugman/Somers, had forgotten Reynolds/Carne, rest all new to me. Had being trying hard to remember Joyce Bulifant at all, but kept getting interference from Joyce Van Patten. Who, it turns out, was married to Martin Balsam for five years. As a bonus for this thread, this union produced a daughter, Talia Balsam, who was married to George Clooney for four years.

...and who is currently married to John Slattery, whom also played her ex-husband on Mad Men.

More Match Game:
Mary Ann Mobley => Gary Collins

God is she annoying on Match Game or any other game show

Haven't watch one with her in ages. Does she make goo-goo eyes at Gene or something?

It's the combination of her dumb, ill-considered answers with the fact that she's clearly so full of herself. Dim and haughty and yeah, goo-goo eyes at everybody.

Caught her on Tattletales the other day and she bitched about not hearing a question because her rooting section was too noisy. Missing the question allowed another celeb to win the game, and at the end of the show she announced that she was going to "file a protest." So a sore loser as well

B-b-but... oh wait

Lol at description of Mobley/Collins as the "Brangelina of the '70s"

Henry Fonda and Margaret Sullavan.

Don't think I knew that either. Believe they were neighbors later when she was married to Leland Hayward.

RIP Tattletales regular Dick Gautier.

Not both actors - you could argue neither were - but the one that always surprises me is George Lazenby and Pam Shriver.

Nicky Henson and Una Stubbs

http://img5.bdbphotos.com/images/orig/8/c/8c4gfbdxfrfrfrd.jpg?djet1p5k

Jack Klugman and Brett Somers had that thing some couples have where they kinda look like they could be brother and sister.

Indeed.

Tbh, trying to remember who Dick Gautier's actress wife was at the time of Tattletales and what I would have seen her on.

Barbara Stuart. You probably knew her from her role as "Bunny" in Gomer Pyle: USMC

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JmEvGYhfek

Because Beth Howland. And Valerie Harper + Richard Schaal, which I didn't know about until after posting.

I don't know how old-time this is, but Alan Pakula and Hope Lange.

http://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/a0/c4/3e/a0c43ef2906994d6fa594413a620fb8c.jpg

^a perfect addition

RIP Jeanne Moreau

had a romance w/ Lee Marvin!

And Peter Handke, apparently.

https://handkeonline.onb.ac.at/sites/handkeonline.at/files/styles/fullscreen/public/images/pool/sph-lw-s69-1.jpg?itok=18mynEyj

Not a director but a writer: Hugu Claus and Sylvia Kristel
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/64/5e/d7/645ed73c422c4575c0b263f2aa6e2d70.jpg

HugO, sorry

Cliff Robertson & Dina Merrill

Dave Vanian and Patricia Morrisson!

Bricolage
Decoupage

Ha! Meant to post ^^ in the “I always get those two mixed up” thread.

Lol

Not that obscure, but Rip Torn and Geraldine Page

Albert Finney & Anouk Aimee

Talk about punching above your weight.

ikr, finney is such a fox

https://pleasurephotoroom.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/british-actor-albert-finney-with-his-girlfriend-anouk-aimee-at-a-london-airport-carrying-a-louis-vuitton-travel-case-photo-by-getty-images.jpg?w=450&h=671

Wow

I just recalled walking by the Bobby Van Steakhouse the other day.

Was looking at some old Time magazines at the library, and among the things I learned was that Shirley MacLaine and Pete Hamill (the journalist/Blood On The Tracks liner notes guy) were a couple for 5 years in the '70s.

This guy?
https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51%2BXgYOJDFL._SX308_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg

Yup!

It's casually mentioned that they'd just broken up in an article about a concert tour she gave just prior to the release of The Turning Point.

Trivia about that: They had first met in Rome in 1966, then a second time in '68 during Robert Kennedy's presidential campaign, but really got together around 1970 after Hamill read Maclaine's first book Don't Fall Off the Mountain and realized the two were both fans of the fictional character Bomba the Jungle Boy. Hamill tried to get her to move into his house in Brooklyn (a few doors up from where I live now), but Shirley didn't bite (Pete was also living with his two daughters at the time). Right around this time, 1970-1971, Maclaine appeared in the film Desperate Characters which was shot partially in Hamill's neighborhood, coincidentally or not. Shirley is credited with being the first woman served a drink at Farrell's Bar, one of Pete's old Brooklyn watering holes.

This one always fascinates, the writer Evan S. Connell Jr. and the singer Gail Garnett. Short romance, long friendship.
https://people.com/archive/the-creator-of-mr-and-mrs-bridge-goes-home-again-with-reluctance-and-no-thanks-for-the-memories-vol-34-no-23/
http://articles.latimes.com/1991-06-09/magazine/tm-822_1_author-connell/3

Margaret Whiting and Jack Wrangler

She was 22 years older and outlived him by 2 years.

Ok, maybe not all old time but some of the responses are wtf.

Cindy Sherman/Steve Martin, Desmond Morris/Diana Dors etc

what's your favorite "did you know these celebrities once dated or had a child together" fact you like to drop at parties

— rachel syme (@rachsyme) February 15, 2019

Did some research after screening BlacKKKlansman:

Stokely Carmichael/Kwame Ture and Miriam Makeba

Stanley Donen and Elaine May were together for the past 20 years.

Also, Stanley Donen and Yvette Mimieux from 1972 to 1985.

Maybe everyone knows this but I somehow just learned about Elliott Gould and Barbra Streisand and I nearly plotzed. I’ve loved many of Gould’s movies for years but never bothered to learn anything about his personal life.

Mark Harmon and Pam Dawber have been married for over 30 years.

Not actors or directors but I didn't know where else to put this.

Stephen Stills and Veronique Sanson

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/7c/a5/fb/7ca5fb237883a2b110eb9484eba2b350.jpg

William Wyler and Margaret Sullavan.

Lock thread!

Was reading some stuff about the Go-Gos recently, and was surprised to see that Charlotte Caffey and Bob Welch (the baseball player, not the Fleetwood Mac guy) dated, and that "Turn To You" was inspired by their breakup.

She's now married to Jeff McDonald from Redd Kross.

Think his brother’s wife is famous too, but can’t remember who right this second.

Oh yeah, Anna Waronker.

Can’t remember if they all hang out with Vicki Peterson and John Cowsill or not.

Also: Susana Hoffs & Jay Roach.

*bump* for recent Ronee Blakley Rolling Thunder activity

Not old time and not married, but was surprised a little to see that Karina Longworth & Rian Johnson are in a LTR.

Not sure if it totally qualifies, but Martha Vickers and Mickey Rooney.

Evelyn Keyes was married to someone I never heard of, then Charles Vidor, then John Huston, then later Artie Shaw, although being married to Artie Shaw, similar to being married Mickey Rooney, should probably not count.

Cherie Currie & Robert Hays
Inara George & Jake Kasdan

Janice Rule and Ben Gazzara

Cherie Currie & Robert Hays

0_o

Comedian David Brenner (b. 1936) and figure skater Tai Babilonia (b. 1959) from 2002-2009

I always seem to find these things while careening haphazardly around Wikipedia.

Only one them an actor but, Pinchas Zukerman and Tuesday Weld.

Another one that doesn’t quite work but still:
William Campbell and Judith Campbell Exner

don’t know where to put this so:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Brandon_(actor)?wprov=sfti1

Brandon married in 1941, the marriage produced one son before ending in 1946.[2] He subsequently had a long relationship with the actor Mark Herron.[3] Herron left Brandon in the mid-1960s, and was briefly the fourth husband of Judy Garland. Herron and Garland separated after five months of marriage, after which Herron returned to Brandon and remained with him until Brandon's death.

Another one that doesn’t quite work but still:
Sidney Lumet and Gloria Vanderbilt

Michael J. Pollard & Beth Howland (Vera from "Alice")

Beth Howland & Charles Kimbrough (Jim Dial from "Murphy Brown")

Adjacent to the topic...

I didn't know that the guy who was married to Anna Karina at her death was also married to Jean Seberg at the time of her death (though they were separated). Dennis Berry, a bit actor in the 1960s, later a director

RIP Orson Bean, even if you were never actually married to Joyce Dewitt and I wasn’t familiar with your other wives, on Tattletales or otherwise.

Tangential, but:

Love knowing that Charles Portis and Nora Ephron were an item. pic.twitter.com/g2lXuCxj4u

— Megan Abbott (@meganeabbott) February 20, 2020

learning about the marriages of Don Knotts pic.twitter.com/pJT9biLKsb

— paige (@BonerWizard) April 14, 2020

Zubin Mehta and Nancy Kovack (just watching a, er, memorable performance of hers in Star Trek) - married 51 years!

https://robinsonarchive.com/wp-content/uploads/Mehta0912.jpg

... also the guy playing her husband in this Star Trek episode was married to Twiggy.

not old timey and not all actors, but lockdown has clued me in to a lot of celeb couples i hadn't realised before.

David Tennant and Georgia (daughter of Peter Davidson, met on set of Doctor Who)

Caitlin Moran and Pete Paphides (this one from her (2010!) book)

Guy Garvey and Rachael Stirling (the wife from Detectorists. They are currently in lockdown with her mother - Diana Rig)

Wow @ Guy Garvey

Did you learn the latter bcz of Jools last Friday? Because I did. xp

It's a long way from Bury to kipping at Emma Peel's.

yeah, he was on Later on friday. i have a lot of time for GG but don't listen to his music or his radio shows. maybe i should. Jarvis is the same.

(Not for this thread, but keep seeing performances by quarantined musical duos who may have been keeping their careers separate up until now)

Zubin Mehta and Nancy Kovack (just watching a, er, memorable performance of hers in Star Trek) - married 51 years!

Check out this picture of her with Shatner.
https://superstarsbio.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/Nancy-Kovack-heights.jpg

Not married, but Bibi Andersson and Miloš Forman.

Jennifer O'Neill and songwriter Jeff Barry. Married for one year in the late '70s.

Not quite a good threadfit, but I am kind of amazed that Bulle Ogier and Barber Schroeder are still married.

Schroedet's Barber

Jennifer O'Neill and songwriter Jeff Barry. Married for one year in the late '70s.

I noticed the other day that Jennifer O'Neill has had quite a busy time of it, maritally, but seems to have settled down at last:

Dean Rossiter (1965–1971, divorced, 1 child)
Joseph Koster (1972–1974, divorced)
Nick de Noia (1975–1976, divorced)
Jeff Barry (1978–1979, divorced)
John Lederer (1979–1983, divorced, 1 child)
Richard Alan Brown (1986–1989, divorced, 1 child)
Neil L. Bonin (1992–1993, annulled)
Richard Alan Brown (1993–1996, divorced)
Mervin Sidney Louque Jr. (1996–present)

Well done, Mervin!

Picturing her family wearily trooping into Macey's and along the well-worn path to the wedding gifts section, yet again.

Was mildly surprised to discover yesterday that Jimmy Cauty from the KLF is married to Alannah Currie out of the Thompson Twins.

Schroedet's Barber

obv :)

Don’t know if this qualifies but I recently learned Candice Bergen and Louis Malle were married, which seems a bit strange. Also learned Bergen’s father was a famous ventriloquist who left money to his dummy when he died but not his kids. Wild.

oh right, yeah, I remember someone in college commenting that they saw Candice Bergen around freshman year to see Justine Malle who lived down the hall from me in the dorms.

Doesn't work for this thread, but don't know where else to put it: TIL that the actress from Spock's Brain whose name was Marj Dusay and whose birthday would have been yesterday, played a memorable role on The Odd Couple and was in lots of other shows as well
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6o7UDpn1mKI

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BNDViZmI1NzItNzVhZi00ZGE1LTkwOGEtMDI1YjI2MWFmYmQxXkEyXkFqcGdeQXVyODIzMzQ0ODQ@._V1_FMjpg_UX1000_.jpg

Trying to think of who else was on both The Odd Couple and Star Trek: TOS. So far I've got Elinor Donahue, Pamelyn Ferdin and John Fiedler.

Oh wait, that reminds me of one that is not on this thread. Michael Ansara, who played Kang on "The Day of the Dove," was married to Barbara Eden from 1958 to 1974. He also played King Kamehameha on an episode of I Dream of Jeannie.

Love Marj Dusay, she's also in a couple of original Hawaii Five-O episodes, a real standout in looks and screen presence. I've been rewatching the first 6 seasons of H5O and there's a huge contingent of actors who have appeared on that and Star Trek TOS, off the top of my head: Marj Dusay, Michael Ansara, Ricardo Montalban, Diana Muldaur, France Nuyen, Barbara Luna, Bill Shatner, Joanne Linville, Mark Lenard, William Windom, Sally Kellerman, Madlyn Rhue...

Wow, that’s amazing!

https://www.startrek.com/article/galaxy-of-trek-cheers-frasier-connections

A further irony is that Jack Lord was originally offered the Captain Kirk role before Shatner (but after Jeffrey Hunter). Lord asked for 50% of the profits of the show so they turned him down and found Shatner.

France Nuyen was married to Robert Culp for a few years!

OK wow I did not know that

All roads lead back to this thread.

Begging your indulgence, more Star Trek TOS/Hawaii Five-O overlap:

Nancy Kovack (whom you mentioned recently as *still* married to Zubin Mehta), Antoinette Bower, Pilar Seurat, Charlene Polite, Sabrina Scharf... I'm hardly even trying! Something must have been up behind the scenes with those two shows.

I think more than a handful of these also appeared on Hogan's Heroes if not Mannix, at least from what I just came across.

Joanne Linville was married to Mark Rydell for a decade!

Antoinette Bower
Heh, was just in a discussion about whether “Catspaw” was the worst episode of ST:TOS

Marj Dusay might have had something to say about that

Heh.

Perhaps she says something about it here: http://www.fiveohomepage.com/dusay/

Interesting interview. "The Singapore File" is a unique episode of H5O, very film noirish; they never did another episode quite like it. I have issues with it though, bc it has too much of an air of unreality. It feels like a dream episode, like maybe we're not supposed to take it seriously. "24 Karat Kill" is more within the normal tone of the show, and her character is much stronger in it.

Where are you watching these episodes of H50?

Stream and stream. What is stream?

On the official DVDs from CBS! Which I bought probably 12-15 years ago. They're a lot cheaper to buy now.

And just to bring this back to the actual topic of the thread, James MacArthur ("Danno" on Hawaii Five-O) was once married to Joyce Bulifant of Match Game fame. They divorced and he quickly got remarried to Melody Patterson from the show F Troop.

I posted some stuff over on another thread to keep this thread clean but now I feel a little guilty about it: Things you were shockingly old when you learned

But on the other hand I didn’t want to re-derail, especially after that bullseye post from Josefa.

Heh, Pinterest is totally onto me. Don’t ask me why I even have a Pinterest account, can’t remember why.

A bit off for the thread, and also kind of grim, but Jack Nance and Jerry Van Dyke's daughter Kelly Jean.

Joan Marshall, who guest starred on the Star Trek episode “Court Martial,” was briefly married to Hal Ashby.

Another oddity that's not exactly on topic (no marriages involved) is that Dick Van Dyke's live-in partner of 13 years, the late Michelle Triola, was the same woman previously known as Michelle Triola Marvin because she was Lee Marvin's live-in partner who sued him for money in the 1970s in the trial that gave us the word "palimony."

*correction: Michelle Triola lived w/DickVan Dyke for 33 years

Candy Clark and Marjoe Gortner (briefly in '70s)

Close call:

Liza Minnelli was engaged to Peter Sellers for a hot minute in 1973. So sad to imagine what could have been.

Complicating this dream match were the facts that both were technically married to other people at the time and Liza was also engaged to Desi Arnaz Jr.

Doesn’t work here, but family tree of Susan Kohner deserves a further look.

Maybe everyone knows this but I somehow just learned about Elliott Gould and Barbra Streisand and I nearly plotzed. I’ve loved many of Gould’s movies for years but never bothered to learn anything about his personal life.

Jan Smithers & James Brolin

Wow, good one.

Brolin went from Bailey to Babs!

This is one I just heard about a few days ago from a local NPR feature on KY actors.

Patricia Neal and Roald Dahl (writer of Charlie & the Chocolate Factory)

https://imgc.artprintimages.com/img/print/patricia-neal-with-roald-dahl-1954_u-l-q1byabs0.jpg?h=900&p=0&w=900

Fans of History Channel might know from an episode on Dahl that he was a bit of a player in more ways than one for British Intelligence.

I should say Drunk History not History Channel...LOL.

Katharine Ross and cinematographer Conrad Hall, they met when filming 'Butch Cassidy and The Sundance Kid'. Ross is now married to Sam Elliott.

Only recently discovered that Bob Dylan and Mavis Staples were an item. Dylan asked to marry her, but she turned him down.

Apparently Elliott was also in 'Butch Cassidy...' .

Maybe everyone knows this but I somehow just learned about Elliott Gould and Barbra Streisand and I nearly plotzed. I’ve loved many of Gould’s movies for years but never bothered to learn anything about his personal life.

Watching Gunsmoke alerted me to another actress on the Star Trek/Mannix circuit, Julie Parrish, previously mentioned here: Elvis Girls

The aforementioned Katherine Ross and Sam Elliott are in the show that is on now after Gunsmoke, The Sacketts, although this is from before they were married.

I knew about Julie London and Bobby Troup of course, but a little while ago I learned and forgot that she was previously married to Jack Webb.

Probably everyone else knew this and at least one participant is not so old-timey, but Malcolm McDowell and Mary Steenburgen.

I just learned about that one the other day. Hard to imagine going from being married to the guy from Clockwork Orange to being married to the guy from Cheers.

André Morell & Joan Greenwood

Peter Vaughan & Billie Whitelaw

Sidney Lumet & Gloria Vanderbilt (who was also married to Leopold Stokowski!)
Don Siegel & Viveca Lindfors

Good ones. Apparently Siegel & Lindfors met when making Night Unto Night(1949), Siegel's 2nd film and Lindfors' first after moving to America (though not the first released). Wikipedia describes the film as a "major box-office flop."

The late Dean Stockwell and Millie Perkins, the interesting actress who was featured in Monte Hellman's The Shooting (1966) and the psych-horror film The Witch Who Came from the Sea (1976) and was Anne Frank in The Diary of Anne Frank (1959)

These last few are amazing, thanks

sorry, unrelated, but re: millie perkins:

"Recent to her retirement, she was honored in the 2004 action-adventure video game Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas, in which one of the storyline girlfriends to protagonist Carl "CJ" Johnson, voiced by Orfeh, was named after her. "

No worries, not too many threads about Millie Perkins so this thread will do fine.

Building off the Dino, Desi & Billy talk in the obits thread:

Dino Martin was married to both Olivia Hussey AND Dorothy Hamill!

!

Man there is more going on around that but I haven’t come across an actual marriage so I will keep mum for now.

Should I have known that Tuesday Weld was married to Dudley Moore in the late '70s? It would seem so

An actress about the same age as James MacArthur told me about some trouble that made the news in re his adoptive mother, Helen Hayes, blanking on details, but think it was follow-up to this:
When stage great Helen Hayes died in 1993, her son, James MacArthur, inherited her Victorian mansion overlooking the Hudson River in Nyack, N.Y. MacArthur arranged to sell the house for $730,000 to Christopher and Georgine Chalsen, who planned to live there with their five children.Jan 7, 1996

Steering Clear Of Title Trouble - Bloomberg Rest of it is paywalled, but that's the gist.

Wiki bio has him working his ass off for years and years and years, in tons of shows, flicks, sometimes other:
he BBC Radio 5 Live obituary program Brief Lives, in which he paid tribute to his Hawaii Five-O castmate, the late Kam Fong. In 1997, MacArthur returned without Jack Lord (who was in declining health) to reprise his character, who had become Hawaii's governor, in the 1997 unaired pilot of Hawaii Five-O which starred actor Gary Busey.

In April 2003, he traveled to Honolulu's historic Hawaii Theatre for a cameo role in Joe Moore's play Dirty Laundry. Negotiations were underway in summer 2010 for MacArthur to make a cameo appearance in the new CBS primetime remake of Hawaii Five-O at the time of his death, a role that eventually was given to Al Harrington. On the November 1, 2010, episode, MacArthur's death was mentioned in a short tribute that played before the start of that episode.

In 2001, a Golden Palm Star on the Palm Springs Walk of Stars was dedicated to him.[19]
Personal life and death
MacArthur's first wife was Joyce Bulifant. On the set of The Angry Breed (1968), MacArthur met actress Melody Patterson, who became his second wife. They wed on Kauai in July 1970 and divorced five years later. His third wife was former LPGA golfer Helen Beth Duntz. MacArthur had four children: Charles P. MacArthur, Mary McClure, Juliette Rappaport, and James D. MacArthur.[20]

MacArthur died on October 28, 2010, at the age of 72, of natural causes, at the Mayo Clinic in Jacksonville, Florida What does that mean? I hate natural causes, and 72 is the new 40, by cracky.

Somebody please find reboot pilot w Busey.

Oh, after "sometimes other," I meant to include:
Throughout his career, MacArthur had also found time for various other ventures. From 1959 to 1960, he partnered with actors James Franciscus and Alan Ladd, Jr. in a Beverly Hills telephone answering service. In June 1972, he directed the Honolulu Community Theatre in a production of his father's play The Front Page. James F. and Ladd Jr. were, uh, kinda skeevy I heard, can't verify but he was prob wise not to continue partnership.

Franciscus mainly, but don't know---just watch out for him!

Like Elvis with Priscilla, James MacArthur met Melody Patterson when she was a teenager and waited till she turned 21 to marry her

Very good.
March 28, 1960, Franciscus married Kathleen "Kitty" Wellman, the daughter of film director William A. Wellman....after the couple's divorce he married Carla Ankney in 1980.

They were still married at the time of Franciscus's 1991 death from emphysema in North Hollywood, California, at 57. Also quite a career:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Franciscus
Gotta say he was my childhood hero for a while, as intense teacher Mr. Novak!
He starred in I Passed for White (1960), and in 1963 he appeared as Mike Norris in the episode "Hang By One Hand" on the NBC medical drama about psychiatry, The Eleventh Hour. He also guest-starred on Combat!, The F.B.I. and Miracle of the White Stallions. Franciscus may be best remembered for his title roles in NBC's Mr. Novak (1963–65) and ABC's Longstreet (1971–72) which included his blind character taking martial arts lessons in Jeet Kune Do from the late Bruce Lee as Li Tsung in four episodes,[2] and for his vocal performance in the big-screen version of Jonathan Livingston Seagull (1973)

Of course the marital that used to trip people out back in their professional heyday: Anne Bancroft & Mel Brooks.

Tyne Daly was married to actor-director Georg Stanford Brown from 1966 to 1990.
He was in Roots and a bunch of other stuff, but mainly put this in here because she's awesome. Goddam Tyne, lots of Emmys, also Tony, also she got Dolly Parton to duet w her on Dolly's show, and producer so impress he put her in new production of Gypsy, she did the hell out of that, then to Chekhov's The Seagull, of course.
Remembered her father, James, as cool on lots of ancient shows, so looked up him and his marriage (to Hope Newell, 1942-65), found this:
According to his son Tim Daly during an interview on CBS News Sunday Morning, James Daly came out to Tim as gay a decade after divorcing his wife Hope. His struggle to come to terms with his sexual orientation nearly put a rift between him and his family. As homosexuality was still considered a mental illness until the early 1970s, he and his wife tried and failed at "curing" him. After their divorce, Daly decided to limit his contact with his children out of fear that they would end up mentally ill themselves.[5]

Two of Daly's children, Tyne Daly and Tim Daly ](of Wings, on which Tyne appeared), and his granddaughter, Kathryne Dora Brown, and grandson, Sam Daly, are actors. Tyne appeared on Daly's TV series, Foreign Intrigue, as a child. She also played Jennifer Lochner, Paul Lochner's adult daughter, on Medical Center in the 1970 season 1 episode Moment of Decision. The elder Daly and his daughter both guest-starred separately in the original Mission: Impossible TV series. Tim appeared as a child with his father in Henrik Ibsen's play, An Enemy of the People. Daly had two other children: daughters Mary Glynn and Pegeen Michael.[6]

Death
Daly died on July 3, 1978, of heart failure in Nyack, New York,[6] two years after Medical Center ended, and while he was preparing to star in the play Equus in Tarrytown, New York.[7] His ashes were sprinkled into the Atlantic Ocean. 59.
Sorry to be Debbie Downer with the copypasta here, carry on.

Pretty sure I remember MacArthur and Bulifant being on Tattle Tales, the celeb couple game show that Bert Convy hosted.

Eh, IMDB says no.

Tattle Tales has a looming presence over this thread.

XP They were divorced way before Tattle Tales, although she probably appeared with one of her other husbands.

It was Edward Mallory she was onTattletales with.You just knew seeing them together it wasn’t gonna last

Dang.
Jo Ann Pflug's name popped into my head again this morning. Though best known to me this way: Pflug's first major role was as U.S. Army nurse Lt. Maria "Dish" Schneider in the 1970 film M*A*S*H, she was also a frequent panelist on the television game show Match Game from 1973 until 1981,[7] a co-host with Allen Funt on the 1970s version of Candid Camera, and...Pflug married Chuck Woolery in 1972 at the Knowles Memorial Chapel at Rollins College in Orlando, Florida.[8] They had a daughter, Melissa. The couple divorced in 1980.[4][9]

She married Charles Young in 1988.[citation needed]
In 1997, she was in Midnight in the Garden of Good and Evil---is it good?

Just came back to this website I hit every once in a blue moon, usually for music.

https://www.museumofthegulfcoast.org/notable-people-hall-of-fame

This time clicked on Notables and found two actresses who qualify, although one has already been mentioned and the other isn't really old-timey.

Keith Carradine and Shelley Plimpton, parents of Martha. There are posts in the archive from Morbius and Shakey about this.

David Carradine and Barbara Hershey. Never married, although they worked together a fair bit, including on Kung Fu and in Boxcar Bertha, and had a child who was, um, born Free but later changed names to Tom.

K. Carradine originally wrote "I'm Easy" from Nashville as part of his wooing Plimpton when they were both appearing in a production of Hair.

Yes, that’s what Morbius said. I guess those two were not actually married. Keith’s first wife was Sandra Will (never heard of her) and there ddd some scandal around their divorce case involving a PI.

I don't think I knew anything about Tyne Daly's father, James Daly, especially didn't know that he was on the Star Trek:TOS episode "Requiem for Methuselah" or Rod Serling's favorite Twilight Zone episode (and mine), "A Stop at WIlloughby."

Although maybe he liked something on the second season better.

The train conductor played the bartender on All in the Family, just to continue the, um, derail.

Jason Wingreen, who was also the voice of Boba Fett in The Empire Strikes Back, one of ILX's top 100 films of all time, not that IGAF

Thanks.

Don't think we talked about how Liza Minelli and Desi Arnaz, Jr. lived together for a while and were engaged briefly.

Was reminded of this because there is a hippie chick who looks quite a bit like Liza at the -20:00 mark of the VU doc #OneThread

That must have been just before Liza was engaged to Peter Sellers (she was actually married to Peter Allen throughout this time). Desi Arnaz Jr. was coming off his thing with Patty Duke, when he probably did not father her child, Sean Astin.

Thanks. Saw most of that other stuff earlier in the week but it overflowed my buffer and I couldn’t quite remember any of it.

No worries, I don’t pretend to understand any of this, I’m just reporting the bits and pieces that occur to me in the moment

Same here. It’s not like there is some Pete Frame figure for this stuff drawing us a diagram.

Haha, there should be though

Maybe the same person who did that excellent Match Game mapping can step up to the plate.

Wait what? Who did this Match Game mapping?

Match Game

Huh... I pretty much nailed it there.

Zsa Zsa Gabor and George Sanders. Can you imagine?

^^ said in the voice of Alfred Hitchcock

Somehow reminding me of the (final?) Green Acres episode I recently read about which was a failed pilot featuring Elaine Joyce and Richard Deacon.

xxp and also her sister magda!

... for just over a month!

I had to blink and check if it was April Fool’s Day when I saw that Liza Minnelli was once married to Jack Haley Jr. I guess John Lahr was unavailable.

That’s a good one, but it has also led me to discover that John Lahr is *currently* married to Connie Booth of ‘Fawlty Towers’ fame

!

Some good detail in the John Lahr Wikipedia article, including that his mother was a former Miss Cincinnati, much the same way Lou Reed’s mother, Toby, had been voted Queen of the Stenographers in her office in 1939. #OneThread

Wait not just her office but all of NYC. If she had won a year later she would have given Ginger Rogers a special scroll in Grand Central Station at the Stenographer’s Ball.

I knew that Jean-Michel Jarre and Charlotte Rampling were married for awhile, but I didn't know that Jarre was also married to Anne Parillaud and is currently married to Gong Li.

I think I recently learned and quickly forgot about that, so thanks for posting, when somebody like JBL posted something on Friendbook.

Can't find it now though.

Jean Marsh - co-creator of and played 'Rose' in Upstairs Downstairs. Married to Jon Pertwee from 1955 until their divorce in 1960, and had relationships with Albert Finney, Kenneth Haigh, and Michael Lindsay-Hogg.

Also a candidate for 'the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually still alive'. 87 years old.

Cool. Don’t know if I ever saw that Twilight Zone episode she was in.

Not married but Stella Stevens and guitarist Bob Kulick were together from 1983 till his death last year.

About to bust up in here like Kool-Aid Man with Ron Dante and Lana Turner, but her Ron Dante wasn't _the_ Ron Dante.

(xxpost: James! Go watch that ep NOW---one of the best TZs evah, in terms of effective production, casting, and no or minimal DO YOU SEE moralism overloading poignant clarity)
xpost:Stella and Bob reminding me of Les Dudek and---hold please for eventual thread relevance:
He (Les Dudek) had built quite a reputation around the Florida area as a proficient guitar player, having started playing in local bands as a teenager. Those bands were "The United Sounds", "Blue Truth" and "Power". That reputation would place him in the studio with the Allman Brothers Band for the recording of the Brothers & Sisters album.[1] He played guitar harmonies with Dickey Betts on the well-known song "Ramblin' Man" and acoustic guitar on "Jessica".[1][4] In Alan Paul's book, One Way Out: The Inside History of the Allman Brothers Band, Dudek claimed to have written the part in "Jessica" from when it modulated into G then eventually back to A.[5]
...He later collaborated with Cher, Stevie Nicks, and with two other Columbia artists, Mike Finnigan and Jim Krueger, with whom he formed The Dudek Finnigan Krueger Band in 1978. A DFKB album was released by Columbia Records a year later.[1]

Between the years 1979 and 1982, Les and Cher had a personal as well as professional relationship.[6][7] Dudek wrote and performed some of the music for the 1984 movie Mask starring Cher, Sam Elliott, Eric Stoltz, and Laura Dern.From Cher main article:
In 1980, alongside Italian record producer Giorgio Moroder, Cher wrote her last Casablanca disco recording, "Bad Love", for the film Foxes.[109] She formed the rock band Black Rose that year with her then-lover, guitarist Les Dudek. Although Cher was the lead singer, she did not receive top billing because she wanted to create the impression that all band members were equal. Since she was easily recognized when she performed with the band, she developed a punk look by cutting her trademark long hair. Despite appearances on television, the band failed to earn concert dates.[110] Their album Black Rose received unfavorable reviews; Cher told Rolling Stone, "The critics panned us, and they didn't attack the record. They attacked me. It was like, 'How dare Cher sing rock & roll?'"[53]
(They didn't like Allman and Woman much either, seems like.)
While she was with Dudek, Dickey Betts married Cher's assistant, Paulette (can't find her last name, but think it was Coelho? Mother of Duane Betts, who grew up on road w Allman Brothers Band, and is now co-leader of Allman Betts Band.
(Dudek got around quite a bit professionally as well, should write his own book.)

Late last night, on The Alfred Hitchcock Hour, I saw Felicia Farr as a lonely, somewhat careless/princessy, playin', wanderin' around housewife and stepmother, spied on and gaslighted by weirdo new kid in the neighborhood Bruce Dern--as written, directed and played, a fairly nuanced female character, struggling with personal contradictions and male gazes (incl. that husband, somewhat manipulated by Dern), for this pulp genre, show and especially era.

Recalled seeing her in some other shows, ones I wish we still got on these digital antenna channels, like Naked City and It Takes A Thief. Movies incl. original 3:10 to Yuma and The Venetian Affair.

Also (husbands appear right after this):
Farr's later films include the bawdy Billy Wilder farce Kiss Me, Stupid (1964) with Dean Martin and Ray Walston later star of My Favorite Martian as her husband, a role originally intended for Jack Lemmon; Walter Matthau's daughter-in-law in Kotch (1971, Lemmon's only film as director); the Don Siegel bank-heist caper Charley Varrick (1973) with Matthau; and more than 30 TV appearances on The Alfred Hitchcock Hour, Bonanza, Ben Casey, Burke's Law, and many others.

Personal life
On September 2, 1949, Dines married TV actor Lee Farr,[9] a marriage which produced a daughter, Denise Farr, who later became the wife of actor Don Gordon. Farr's second husband was actor Jack Lemmon; they married in 1962 while Lemmon was filming the comedy Irma La Douce in Paris. They remained married until his death in 2001.[1]

During her marriage to Jack Lemmon, Farr gave birth to a daughter, Courtney, in 1966.[1] She is also the stepmother of Lemmon's son, actor and author Chris Lemmon, from his first marriage.
Yep, "is": she's still with us, age 89, according to wiki.

That explains a lot. Remember watching Kiss Me, Stupid with a friend who commented that he thought Ray Walston was playing what should have been the Jack Lemmon role. We had no idea that it had been intended for Lemmon but knew of his history with Wilder and thought it appropriate when we learned that Felicia Farr was his wife.

Forgot that Arlene Dahl (RIP) had been married to Fernardo Lamas and was Lorenzo Lamas's mother.

Joan Crawford and Douglas Fairbanks Jr.

Seems like this stuff is hard to keep track of, as I see Josefa first brought up Liza and Desi as well as James MacArthur and Melody Patterson earlier this year and I had no recollection.

Geraldine Chaplin was the partner of director Carlos Saura for 12 years until 1979, starring in his films https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ana_and_the_Wolves (1973),https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cr%C3%ADa_Cuervos (1976),https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elisa,_vida_m%C3%ADa (1977), and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mama_Turns_100 (1979).
...They have a son, Shane Saura Chaplin.

Her second long-term relationship has been with Chilean cinematographer Patricio Castilla, whom she married in 2006, and with whom she has a daughter, Oona, an actress in British and Spanish films.

In 1978, the Chaplin family were the victims of a failed extortion plot by kidnappers who had stolen the body of Charlie Chaplin. Geraldine Chaplin negotiated with the kidnappers, who had also threatened her infant son.[25]

Robert Hays (Airplane!) and Cherie Currie (The Runaways)

Richard Mulligan and Joan Hackett.

Not married,and not old time,exactly..

But I was surprised that Eric Clapton and Davina McCall were a longish term thing,back before Davina was 'famous'...

Lovely couple.

Always knew Ida Lupino was awesome, and even got to direct a bunch of movies pretty early on for a gurl, but didn't know she did all this!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ida_Lupino
Marriage-wise: first was Louis Hayward, "a protege of Noel Coward," later in movies I never hoid of; in 1938,"his profile was raised when he married Ida Lupino," who was 20 and had already been "the British Jean Harlow," and was about to have her breakthrough legit role, in The Light That Failed(1939)...a role she acquired after running into the director's office unannounced, demanding an audition.[12] After this breakthrough performance as a spiteful cockney model who torments Ronald Colman, she began to be taken seriously as a dramatic actress. As a result, her parts improved during the 1940s, and she jokingly referred to herself as "the poor man's Bette Davis", taking the roles that Davis refused.[13][14]Eventually, as a director, described herself as "the poor man's Don Siegel."
To that end, and having divorced Louis, she married and teamed with producer and writer Collier Young, formed an independent company, The Filmakers Inc. [sic], to "produce, direct, and write low-budget, issue-oriented films".[4][19][20]
Of these, The Bigamist(1953), made after their divorce "mined" Young's two-timing Lupino x Joan Fontaine:
The Bigamist is a 1953 American drama film noir directed by Ida Lupino starring Joan Fontaine, Ida Lupino, Edmund Gwenn and Edmond O'Brien. Producer/Screenwriter Collier Young was married to Fontaine at the time and had previously been married to Lupino. The Bigamist has been cited as the first American feature film in which the female star of a film directed herself.[1]

The film is in the public domain.
Then she married ol' Howard Duff (wiki claims this saved him from the blacklist), much later in Altman's A Wedding and lots of other stuff, esp. cop show leading roles, but mainly of interest to me, if at all, because co-starred w Lupino in four films worth mentioning: (Michael Gordon's) Woman in Hiding(1950), Don Siegel's Private Hell 36 (1954); Lewis Seiler's Women's Prison (1955), and Fritz Lang's While the City Sleeps (1956)/
Also, Mr. Adams and Eve is an American situation comedy television series about a married couple who are both movie stars. It stars Howard Duff and Ida Lupino and aired on CBS from January 4, 1957, to July 8, 1958.[1][2][3]The plots of many episodes of Mr. Adams and Eve were based on actual events Lupino and Duff had experienced during their acting careers, albeit exaggerated for comic effect.[2][/I} She directed some eps, and the characters were "created by"---Collier Young, also Exec Producer. [i]Duff and Lupino also co-starred as themselves in 1959 in one of the 13 one-hour installments of The Lucy–Desi Comedy Hour and an episode of The Dinah Shore Chevy Show in 1960. Divorced in '83, by far her longest hitch.

She was from a very interesting family too.

What’s with the sic up there?

Oh, one ‘m’

The Bigamist is one of my favourite films, an interesting exploration of the nuclear family and gender roles, even without the real-life backdrop

Also a triumphant turn in Food of the Gods. (I kid, of course. We really need a thread for "bedrock Hollywood actors slumming in crap b-movies at the tail end of their careers".)

EXPLAIN THE SWARM THEN

Well, there were these bees...

Michael Caine needed a new pool.

And he wasn't going to let a little bit of bee excrement stand in the way.

The Swarm apparently received an Oscar nomination for costume design?

I guess normal clothes but with thousands of fake bees stitched in?

Oh wait isn’t olivia de haviland in the swarm too

Unless it's Olivia Hussey.

https://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2011/03/michael-caine-on-honesty/71900/

Given how many great films you've made, does it disappoint you when people want to talk about the ones that didn't do so well?
No, what annoys me is when, as happened today, you're doing a day's worth of interviews and the very first question you're asked if, "Why did you make Jaws: The Revenge?" When things like that happen, the interview becomes very short indeed.

Just out of interest, how did you reply?
I just said what I've always said - I made it because they paid me a lot of money! It's like when people ask me why I made The Swarm - I made The Swarm because my mother needed a house to live in. Then I made Jaws 4 because she was lonely and I needed to buy her a bigger house which she could live in with all of her friends. It's that simple.

Or Olivia's sister, the former Mrs. Collier Young.

Gloria Swanson was in The Killler Bees (1974 TV movie). You can get a pretty good list going with bees alone.

Ben Johnson in The Savage Bees (1976, TV)

He was also in The Swarm!

John Carradine in The Bees (1978, Mexico)

The Beeatles in Let It Bee

new thread proposal: "bedrock Hollywood stars slumming in crap bee-movies at the tail end of their careers."

Okay, sure, go ahead, please.

I have a pretty strong memory of the run-in between Desi and Lucy and Ida and Howard, especially since I had no idea who Howard was.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RseZL4_5kvg

Mel Tormé & Janette Scott... the surprising part of that union being that Thora Hird was therefore Mel Tormé's mother-in-law!

Laura Antonelli and Jean-Paul Belmondo were an item for about a decade, it seems.

Also not married but Pam Grier and Freddie Prinze.

Now that gets more interesting... Freddie Prinze was actually briefly engaged to Kitty Bruce, who is Lenny Bruce's daughter. Kitty Bruce was mainly a singer but acted in a couple of films, including the Jack Hill-directed Switchblade Sisters (1975). The year before he directed that film Jack Hill directed Foxy Brown starring Pam Grier.

I had to blink and check if it was April Fool’s Day when I saw that Liza Minnelli was once married to Jack Haley Jr. I guess John Lahr was unavailable.

Omg Nicholas Ray, what an epic life or three---this may look like a lot, but so much more:
...As 1932 ended, Ray left college, and, now calling himself Nicholas Ray, sought new opportunities, including, with the help of Thornton Wilder, meeting Frank Lloyd Wright, with the hope of joining Wright's Fellowship at Taliesin. Lacking the tuition fee, in 1933 Ray ventured to New York City, where, staying in Greenwich Village, he had his first encounters with the city's bohemia.[100] There, shortly before his stint at Taliesin, Ray met young writer Jean Evans (born Jean Abrahams, later Abrams), and they started a relationship.[101][102] After he returned east, they lived together, and married in 1936. When Ray took a position at the WPA in Washington, by January 1937 they had moved to Arlington, Virginia.[103] They had one son, Anthony Nicholas (born November 24, 1937), known as Tony, and named for Ray's friend and fellow Federal Theatre director Anthony Mann.[104] Washington government life wore on both Ray and Evans, and Ray's drinking and unfaithfulness strained their marriage. Evans moved back to New York in 1940, having found a job at PM, the new leftist newspaper. Ray returned to New York as well, in May of that year, but soon the couple separated. A few months later he again attempted to reconcile, while also living at Almanac House, a Greenwich Village loft occupied by Pete Seeger, Lee Hays, and Millard Lampell, core members of the Almanac Singers. He committed himself for a time to psychoanalysis, but in time fell back into old habits. Evans filed for divorce in December 1941, and the process was finalized the next summer.[105][106]

...Relocating to Los Angeles to work with Elia Kazan, Ray first lived in a flat at the Villa Primavera,[108] on the corner of Harper and Fountain, that became the model for the apartment building in In A Lonely Place, before moving into a house in Santa Monica. While at Fox, he socialized with fellow transplanted east coasters and theatre folk at Gene Kelly and Betsy Blair's house, among them Judith Tuvim, soon to be known as Judy Holliday, whom he had briefly, unsuccessfully pursued in New York, after his marriage ended. On one occasion, fueled by alcohol, they waded into Santa Monica Bay, an excursion that turned into a halfhearted double suicide attempt, before they changed their minds and struggled back to dry land.[109]

While directing A Woman's Secret, he became involved with the film's co-star, Gloria Grahame, later remembering, "I was infatuated with her but I didn't like her very much."[110] Nonetheless, they married in Las Vegas on June 1, 1948, just five hours after her divorce from her first husband was granted, and five months before the birth of their son, Timothy, on November 12. (RKO announced that he was born "almost four months before the date he was expected.")[111] Tensions in their marriage were known early on, and by autumn 1949, while shooting In A Lonely Place, they had separated for the first time, keeping the split a secret from studio executives.[112][113] At the end of the year, they announced that they planned to travel to Wisconsin, to spend the holidays with Ray's family there, but he went alone, reuniting with his mother and three sisters, and then on to New York and Boston, to prepare his next project, On Dangerous Ground, and to see his ex-wife and firstborn.[114][115] In 1950, as that project was ending and as In A Lonely Place was opening, Ray and Grahame were reported to have reconciled, living in Malibu, though their marriage remained dysfunctional.[116] Ray stated that he had discovered Grahame in bed with his son, Tony, who was 13 years old at the time*.[49][117][118] Although they were irreparably estranged, Ray and Grahame were nominally connected again, when he was called on to help rescue Macao (1952), a project Josef von Sternberg was directing for RKO. Ray directed additional scenes, but evidently none in which she was featured.[119] Grahame filed for divorce, and she testified in court that Ray had struck her twice, once at a party and once in private, at home, before the divorce was granted, on August 15, 1952.[120] Gloria Grahame and Tony Ray married in 1960 and divorced in 1974. Tony Ray died June 29, 2018, age 80.[121]

The HUAC investigations of Hollywood and the entertainment industry, which largely coincided with Ray's marriage to and divorce from Gloria Grahame, further weighed on him...Although he had been wary of therapy, by court order in the divorce, he started seeing psychoanalyst Carel Van der Heide. Even so, he continued womanizing (columnist Dorothy Kilgallen called him "a well-known movie colony heartbreaker"[124]) and drinking, both prodigiously. He had romances with both Shelley Winters and Marilyn Monroe, who were roommates at the time, as well as Joan Crawford—with whom he was planning a suspense film, Lisbon, in 1952, and who later starred in Johnny Guitar—and Zsa Zsa Gabor.
...Johnny Guitar was preposterous to Ray, and a trial for him to work with Joan Crawford, but it also placed reasonably well on Variety's list of "1954 Boxoffice Champs," increasing his professional capital.[127] By now, he had moved into Bungalow 2 at the Chateau Marmont, his headquarters while shooting Rebel Without A Cause, a project of particular importance to him, about troubled young people. That was where he pitched his need to make such a film to Lew Wasserman, prompting his agent to send him to Warner Bros. The hotel residence also became Ray's headquarters and rehearsal space, and it was where James Dean arrived, aiming to meet the director. Dean started to attend Ray's "Sunday afternoons," his regular gatherings of friends at the bungalow, where scenes of the film to come were starting to take shape.[128] Natalie Wood remembered Ray's relationship with Dean as "fatherly," and attributed the same quality to Sal Mineo's and her own connection to their director, even though the sixteen year-old also was sexually attracted to him, and his bungalow became the site of their assignations, while she was also involved with supporting player Dennis Hopper. Ray himself was also busy with roommates Monroe and Winters, Geneviève Aumont (then the professional name of Michèle Montau), and even Lew Wasserman's wife, Edie, while also interested in Jayne Mansfield, whom he tested for the role Wood won in Rebel.[129]

Ray and Wood continued their affair for several months after production wrapped, and while he was shooting his next project, Hot Blood (1956), a pregnancy scare, which turned out to be false, prompted her to break off the romance.

Returning to Europe, in London, Ray met Gavin Lambert, with whom he had corresponded since Lambert's pioneering positive review of They Live By Night.[133] Talking about In A Lonely Place, Lambert remembered Ray's comments about Dix Steele, Bogart's character, at the film's end: "Will he become a hopeless drunk, or kill himself, or seek psychiatric help? Those have always been my personal options, by the way."[134] After a night of vodka and conversation, after 3:30 am, Ray and Lambert, who was gay, had sex, and Ray cautioned "that he wasn't really homosexual, not really even bisexual," advising that he had slept with many women, "but only two or three men."[135] The next day, Ray urged Lambert to accompany him to Hollywood to work on what became Bigger Than Life, and Lambert remained a sometimes-sexual partner, while Ray continued to pursue women. According to Lambert, Ray "behaved like a possessive lover, expecting me to be always here on call...," while Ray continued to dwell on the loss of James Dean.[136]

igger Than Life tells the story of a man who grows reliant on his abuse of medication, and consequently more and more broken. The connections to Ray, who had grown increasingly dependent on both alcohol and drugs, were not lost, even on Ray. In 1976, Ray confessed to himself, in a private journal entry, that he had lived in a "continuous blackout between 1957 or earlier until now,"[137] and his wife Susan, on seeing the film, commented to her husband, "This is your story before you lived it."[138] Ray's drug use was abetted, while he was shooting Bitter Victory, by his new girlfriend, a heroin addict named Manon, and his gambling losses led him to a pitiable state that broke his friendship with Gavin Lambert.[139]

Seventeen year-old Betty Utey first crossed paths with Nick Ray in 1951, at RKO, when he was assigned to direct some additional scenes for Androcles and the Lion (1952), including one with a troupe of bikini-clad dancers. He described it as the "steam room of the vestal virgins."[140] Some weeks after shooting the scene, in which he featured her, he asked her out to the ballet and dinner, and then took her to the house he was renting, having split with Gloria Grahame. At the end of their evening, like In A Lonely Place, he called a cab and sent her home. She subsequently did not hear from him for almost three years, when he called her to come to his Chateau Marmont bungalow for an assignation. He then disappeared again, until 1956, when he called again.[141] In 1958, she won a place as one of the chorines in Party Girl, and after shooting ended they eloped to Maine, where Ray hoped to start his third marriage by drying out. En route, he collapsed at Boston's Logan Airport, suffering from the DTs. He recovered sufficiently to travel on to Kennebunkport, where the couple spent several weeks, before marrying on October 13, 1958.[142] They had two daughters, both born in Rome: Julie Christina, on January 10, 1960, and Nicca, October 1, 1961.[143][144] Ray's mother Lena had died in March 1959.[145]
That's enough, gotta go take nap---read so much more here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicholas_Ray
See also:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gloria_Grahame
*Grahame's lover Peter Turner, who wrote Film Stars Don't Die In Liverpool about her, disputes the claim that Tony Ray was only 13 when they first hooked up.

It's remarkable how many high profile men Pam Grier almost married. To this day she's never been married at all.

Dickey Betts married Cher's assistant, Paulette (can't find her last name, but think it was Coelho?

No relation to Paulo Coelho, one presumes

Claude Chabrol and Stéphane Audran, who he directed in Les Biches (which is great)(& many other films) where she had sex scenes with her ex, Jean-Louis Trintingant.

*whom

It's remarkable how many high profile men Pam Grier almost married. To this day she's never been married at all.

Didn't know she and Rosey Grier were cousins until a minute ago.

Oh wait, that is not true, I don't think. More internet amping of RONG.

Her story about her and Richard Pryor is something too (see Wikipedia).

After I read her autobiography, Foxy, I very much wanted to start a "10 Most WTF Moments in Pam Grier's Foxy" poll, but chickened out. I mean, with some of her stories, I'm not sure how factually I'm supposed to take them. They sound so fanciful, often relying on strange coincidences and serendipities and odd assumptions.

Yeah, I left the Richard Pryor story for you to mention. Plus it's Richard Pryor so somewhat expected, I think. I had my eye on Foxy recently. Do you recommend?

Sure, Foxy is fun to read whether or not there is an unreliable narrator issue clouding the narrative

So you are saying maybe the KAJ story is not quite true?

Yes. I'd like to hear his version of the story, which I have a hunch would be different.

For years, I thought Debbie Harry and Chris Stein were married.

Polly Platt and Peter Bogdanovich were a fantastic creative team. I'm sure he regretted dumping her for Cybill Shepherd.

The Pryor-Grier story being referred to popped up once as one of Ilana's WTF deep pop culture references on Broad City.

KAJ story here.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/09/15/magazine/pam-grier-interview.html
It seems to get more embellished every time I see another version. I can believe the gist of it is true but not sure about all the details.

Also, Stanley Donen and Yvette Mimieux from 1972 to 1985.

― Hideous Lump, Monday, February 25, 2019 9:58 PM (two years ago) bookmarkflaglink

Noticed that in her obit, had heard it before...ON HERE!

Hmm well the dates almost check out, since KAJ married the other woman two days after Grier’s birthday and the supposed ultimatum

Ernest Borgnine & Ethel Merman were married for almost five hot months in 1964.

Thrice-wed Merman married twice-wed Ernest Borgnine in 1964. The couple separated just 11 days after the wedding and Borgnine filed for divorce on October 21, charging extreme mental cruelty. They had announced their impending nuptials at the legendary New York night spot P.J. Clarke's, but Borgnine, who was riding high as the star of McHale's Navy (1962) at the time, said the marriage began unraveling on their honeymoon, when he received more fan attention than she did. The competitive Merman was left seething. "By the time we got home, it was hell on earth," Borgnine recalled in a 2001 interview. "And after 32 days I said to her, 'Madam, bye'." Merman filed a cross-complaint shortly thereafter charging Borgnine with extreme cruelty. She was granted a divorce on November 18, 1964, after 22 minutes of testimony. Borgnine went on to marry a fourth time, but Merman remained single after her divorce. In her 1978 biography, she devoted a chapter of her autobiography to the marriage: It consisted of one blank page.

We never mentioned that one before? Borgnine was also married to Katy Jurado at one point.

Guess not. We’ve been saving it up I guess. Morbs mentioned it on the TCM alert thread.

María Guadalupe Villalobos Vélez (July 18, 1908 – December 14, 1944), known professionally as Lupe Vélez, was a Mexican actress, dancer, and singer during the Golden Age of Hollywood cinema.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/17/Lupe_V%C3%A9lez_in_1941.jpg/330px-Lupe_V%C3%A9lez_in_1941.jpg

Relationships and marriage
Vélez was involved in several highly publicized and often stormy relationships. Upon arriving in Los Angeles, she was linked to actors Tom Mix, Charlie Chaplin and Clark Gable.[53] Her first long-term, high-profile relationship was with Gary Cooper. Vélez and Cooper met while filming 1929s Wolf Song and began a two-year relationship that was passionate and often stormy.[60] When angered, Vélez was reported to have physically assaulted Cooper. Cooper eventually ended the relationship in mid-1931, at the behest of his mother Alice who after meeting her, strongly disapproved of Vélez.[51] With plans to marry him gone, she spoke to the press in 1931: "I turned Cooper down because his parents didn't want me to marry him and because the studio thought it would injure his career. Now its over, I'm glad I feel so free ... I must be free. I know men too well they are all the same, no? If you love them they want to be boss. I will never have a boss."[51] The rocky relationship had taken its toll on Cooper, who had lost 45 pounds and was suffering from nervous exhaustion. Paramount Pictures ordered him to take a vacation to recuperate and while he was boarding the train, Vélez showed up at the station and fired a pistol at him.[52]

After her breakup with Cooper, Vélez began a short-lived relationship with actor John Gilbert. They began dating in late 1931, while Gilbert was separated from his third wife Ina Claire.[61] Rumors of an engagement were fueled by the couple,[62] but Gilbert ended the relationship in early 1932, and attempted to reconcile with Claire.[53][61]

Vélez and Johnny Weissmuller photographed shortly after their wedding in October 1933
Shortly thereafter, Vélez met Tarzan actor Johnny Weissmuller while the two were in New York. They dated off and on when they returned to Los Angeles, while Vélez also dated actor Errol Flynn.[63] On October 8, 1933, Vélez and Weissmuller were married in Las Vegas.[64] There were reports of domestic violence and public fights.[49] In July 1934, after ten months of marriage, Vélez filed for divorce citing "cruelty". She withdrew the petition a week later after reconciling with Weissmuller.[65] On January 3, 1935, she filed for divorce a second time and was granted an interlocutory decree.[66] That decree was dismissed when the couple reconciled a month later. In August 1938, Vélez filed for divorce for a third time, again charging Weissmuller with cruelty. Their divorce was finalized in August 1939.[67]

After the divorce became final, Vélez began dating polo player Guinn "Big Boy" Williams in late 1940. The couple were engaged,[68] but never married.[69][70] In late 1941, she became involved with author Erich Maria Remarque. Actress Luise Rainer recalled that Remarque told her "with the greatest of glee" that he found Vélez's volatility wonderful when he recounted to her an occasion where Vélez became so angry with him that she took her shoe off and hit him with it.[71] After dating Remarque, Vélez was linked to boxers Jack Johnson and Jack Dempsey.[53]

In 1943, Vélez began an affair with her La Zandunga co-star Arturo de Córdova. De Córdova had recently moved to Los Angeles after signing with Paramount. Despite the fact that de Córdova was married to Mexican actress Enna Arana with whom he had four children, Vélez granted an interview to gossip columnist Louella Parsons in September 1943 and announced that the two were engaged. She told Parsons that she planned to retire after marrying de Córdova to "cook ... and keep house".[72] Vélez ended the engagement in early 1944, after de Córdova's wife refused to give him a divorce.

Vélez then met and began dating a struggling young Austrian actor named Harald Maresch, whose stage name was Harald Ramond. In September 1944, she discovered she was pregnant with Ramond's child. She announced their engagement in late November 1944.[36] On December 10, four days before her death, Vélez announced she had ended the engagement and kicked Ramond out of her home.[73]
Committed suicide, left a note saying why, but also much ridic and some fugly in section Alternative Theories and Urban Legend, incl. ridic x fugly passage in Hollywood Babylon, later a runny joek,
that kind of treatment sure didn't start with Britney
---but also Velez had quite a career in Mexico and Hollywood:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lupe_V%C3%A9lez

Although the Alternative Theories don't always read as contrived: she was known for wild behavior, and
In the book From Bananas to Buttocks: The Latina Body in Popular Film and Culture, Rosa-Linda Fregoso wrote that Vélez was known for her defiance of contemporary moral convention, and that it seems unlikely that she could not have reconciled having a child out of wedlock. Fregoso believes that in the final year of her life, Vélez exhibited signs of extreme mania and depression. Fregoso goes on to speculate that Vélez's death may have been the result of an untreated mental illness such as bipolar disorder.[41]

I’ll get around to reading that post over the next 6 months or so, but I just wanted to say, “From Bananas to Buttocks” is a great title

Indeed---back to thread relevance:

Barbara Ann Loden (July 8, 1932 – September 5, 1980) was an American actress and director of film and theater.[1][2] Richard Brody of The New Yorker described Loden as the "female counterpart to John Cassavetes".[3]

Born and raised in North Carolina, Loden began her career at an early age in New York City as a commercial model and chorus-line dancer. Loden became a regular sidekick on the irreverent Ernie Kovacs Television Show in the mid-1950s and was a lifetime member of the famed Actors Studio. She appeared in several projects directed by her second husband, Elia Kazan, including Splendor in the Grass (1961). Her subsequent performance in a 1964 Broadway production of After the Fall earned her a Tony Award for Best Featured Actress.
...In 1960, Loden appeared in Elia Kazan's film Wild River as Montgomery Clift's secretary. She was perhaps better known for her role in Splendor in the Grass (1961), in which she played Warren Beatty's sister.[14]

She famously portrayed Maggie, a fictionalized version of Marilyn Monroe, in Kazan's Lincoln Center Repertory Company stage production of After the Fall (1964), which was written by Monroe's former husband, playwright Arthur Miller.[15] Loden received a Tony award for best actress for her performance in After the Fall as well as an annual award of the Outer Circle, an organization of writers who covered Broadway for national magazines.[1] After the Fall reviews called Loden the "new Jean Harlow" and a "blonde bombshell." Loden recalled in 1980 that she was drawn to the part because the script reflected her own life experiences.

Loden married her first husband, film and television producer and film distributor Larry Joachim, in the 1950s, and they had a son, Marco.[16] After an affair while they were both married to other people, Loden married film director Elia Kazan, who was 23 years her senior, in 1966.[17] She had another son, Leo, with Kazan, and though estranged and considering divorce, they were still married at the time of her death from breast cancer at the age of 48.[10]

Kazan could be contemptuous when describing his relationship with Loden. In his autobiography, Elia Kazan: A Life, he revealed his desire and inability to control her. Kazan wrote about Loden "with a mix of affection and patronization, emphasizing her sexuality and her backcountry feistiness."[10] In a "condescending" way, Kazan bemoaned that Loden had depended on her "sexual appeal" to get ahead and that he was afraid of "losing her."[18] But Kazan was also, in his words, "protective" of Loden.[10] In turn, Loden felt inferior to Kazan.

Her acting career on film had a troubled history. Her first major film role was to be in the Frank Perry-directed The Swimmer starring Burt Lancaster, but during post-production there was a dispute about the scene between producer Sam Spiegel and the film's writer-director team, the Perrys. According to notes by screenwriter Eleanor Perry, Spiegel began showing the troubled rough cut of the film around Hollywood, polling several of his famous film director friends about what he should do with it.[19] Kazan was a major film director who had great influence. He had also secretly been shown a private screening of the film by his friend and producer Spiegel (producer of Kazan's On the Waterfront) and had reportedly interfered with the final cut.[19] Perry was ultimately fired from the film. Several of the film's scenes were recast and reshot by Sydney Pollack, who was hired to replace Perry, with Lancaster reportedly paying for some of the reshoots himself.[19][20] Among the scenes that were entirely recast and reshot was the notorious Loden scene, with Broadway stage actress Janice Rule replacing Loden. Neither Loden nor Pollack was credited on the film. All that remains of the lost scene are still photos taken on set, which appear in Chris Innis's 2014 documentary The Story of The Swimmer.[20]

1967–1980: Film and theater directing
At some point during her acting career, Loden came across a newspaper article about a woman who, when on trial for accomplice to bank robbery, thanked the judge for her own sentencing.[21] Intrigued by this story, she eventually wrote the screenplay for Wanda, an existential[dubious – discuss] rumination on a poverty-stricken woman adrift in Pennsylvania coal country who becomes embroiled in a similar plot. After sending the script to a number of potential directors, Loden felt that they "didn't seem to understand what this woman was about."[22] Fortuitously, her friend Harry Schuster had offered Loden financing for the film, so she directed it herself in collaboration with cinematographer and editor Nicholas T. Proferes on a meager budget of $115,000.[10]

Wanda is a semi-autobiographical portrait of a "passive, disconnected coal miner's wife who attaches herself to a petty crook."[10] Innovative in its cinéma vérité and improvisational style, it was one of the few American films directed by a woman to be theatrically released at that time. Film critic David Thomson wrote, "Wanda is full of unexpected moments and raw atmosphere, never settling for cliché in situation or character." The film was the only American film accepted by the Venice Film Festival in 1970, where it won the International Critics' Prize, and the only American film presented at the 1971 Cannes Film Festival.[10][23] In 2010, with support from Gucci, the film was restored by the UCLA Film & Television Archive and screened at the Museum of Modern Art in Manhattan.[10]

Although Wanda never received proper distribution, screening briefly in New York and at universities but never nationally on the theater circuit,[24] it was noted for its groundbreaking anti-Hollywood view of a woman adrift in the American underworld. Loden said of her title character, "She's trying to get out of this very ugly type of existence, but she doesn't have the equipment"—an independent-minded idea for a cinematic heroine at the time, making Wanda an anti-heroine.[25] In 2017, Wanda was selected for preservation in the United States National Film Registry by the Library of Congress for being "culturally, historically, or aesthetically significant".[26]

While Loden never made another feature film, she directed two educational short films for the Learning Corporation of America.[27] The first one, The Frontier Experience, was released in 1975. It depicts a widowed pioneer woman, played by Loden, in Kansas attempting to survive the harsh winter with her children. Described as a "political prequel"[28] to Wanda, the short explores similar themes. The second, The Boy Who Liked Deer, was released in 1978.[29] It is a cautionary tale about vandalism, in which two boys accidentally poison a deer.

Four months before her death, Loden was interviewed in Katja Raganelli's 1980 documentary I Am Wanda.[30] The film documents Loden's final months, when she taught acting classes.

Death
In 1978, Loden was diagnosed with breast cancer.[31] At the time, she had completed several other screenplays with Proferes that Kazan described as "devoted to the neglected side of American life." She and Kazan were estranged at the time of her cancer diagnosis and planning to divorce, but her illness precluded their separation.[31] In June 1980, Loden was working with her acting teacher Paul Mann on a one-act play to be shown on Off-Off-Broadway. She had planned to work as director, producer, and leading actress, but lost the energy to complete the project. In a retrospective, she said "my life was hard too much of the time", but also that she had made her peace with life.[32]

At the time of her diagnosis, Loden was prepared to direct a feature about Kate Chopin's The Awakening, but her cancer treatments prevented her from starting it.[13] She died at Mount Sinai Hospital in New York City from the disease on September 5, 1980.[1][10]

Style and themes
Wanda has a cinéma vérité style. Loden rejected Hollywood style, wanting to only present the world "as it actually is".[33] She worked mainly with non-professional actors, which resulted in the film's original script being loosely referenced. The film was made with a skeleton crew of only four people. These two factors led to the film's improvisational style. The visuals in the film were inspired by several Andy Warhol films.[34]
From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbara_Loden

Sorry for the Velez post, which isn't thread-relevant and hella long, but what a life.

Lesley-Anne Warren & Jon Peters

Griffin Dunne & Carey Lowell

Not married, not that surprising and maybe even TMI but, just for the record I present:
https://www.vanityfair.com/style/2017/04/rita-moreno-marlon-brando-lust-of-my-life

Two actors: Kurt Russell and Season Hubley. The latter is not well-known to me except as a vaguely remembered name but maybe they belong here because they met whilst playing Elvis and Priscilla.

Melina Mercouri and Jules Dassin:

https://images.wisconsinhistory.org/700007080017/0708000295-l.jpg

Fascinated with her after watching Phaedra the other day, despite the very miscast Anthony Perkins. Love that Dassin set a scene in the British Museum's Elgin Marbles room, given her campaign to have them returned to Greece.

Young Margaret Sullivan got rave reviews in a string of what were adjudged to be fuck-terrible plays, and some better ones (so good in also pre-Hollywood Preston Sturges'Strictly Dishonorable that even her parents shuddup about being on the road to etc). Dunno how The Devil In The Cheese was, but she did that one w Henry Fonda and married him, for two months (they still worked together, like in the movie The Moon's Our Home: Dorothy Parker and Alan Campbell were brought in to punch up the dialogue, reportedly at Sullavan's insistence. Sullavan and Fonda play a newly-married couple, and the movie is a cavalcade of insults and quips.
Later took up with big time Broadway director Jed Harris, ladykiller and legendary asshole:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jed_Harris
Then married William Wyler, whom she met when he cast her (and she agreed, known to be a picky dame) in The Good Fairy:
The Good Fairy is a 1935 romantic comedy film written by Preston Sturges, based on the 1930 play A jó tündér by Ferenc Molnár as translated and adapted by Jane Hinton, which was produced on Broadway in 1931. The film was directed by William Wyler and stars Margaret Sullavan, Herbert Marshall, Frank Morgan and Reginald Owen.

Sturges' screenplay diverges significantly from the Molnár play, and later became the basis for the book of the 1951 Broadway musical Make a Wish.[1] Sturges wrote a scene for a movie-within-the-movie, in which the leading man responds to the leading lady's impassioned pleading with the single word "Go", delivered in varying tones.
Guess you have to see it, and I hope to, kinda, considering the talent involved (I want to believe).

More to my interest is one she battled for,
Cry 'Havoc' (1943) is a World War II drama and a rare all-female film. Sullavan played the strong mother figure who keeps a crew of nurses in line in a dugout in Bataan, while they are awaiting the advance of Japanese soldiers who are about to take over. It was the last film Sullavan made with Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer. After its completion, she was free of all film commitments. She had often referred to MGM and Universal as "jails". When her husband, Leland Hayward, tried to read her the good reviews of Cry 'Havoc', she responded with usual bluntness: "You read them, use them for toilet paper. I had enough hell with that damned picture while making it – I don't want to read about it now!"[16)

Yes, agent Leland Hayward was her husband after Wyler. She got sick of the movie biz and went back to the stage, also said it was so she could spend more time with their kids(?) Didn't work that well: eventually, the kids demanded to live full-time with their father (in Hollywood, not NYC, apparently): a crushed and crushing scene in daughter Brooke Hayward's memoir,Haywire(Brooke's suicidal sister and brother may have inherited depression of their mother, whose death by barbiturates was ruled suicide).
If that weren't bad enough, Brooke, also a sucessful actress, married---Dennis Hopper.

Hopper was married five times:

Brooke Hayward, married 1961 – divorced 1969, 1 child, daughter Marin Hopper (b. 1962)Met him when they were in a stage production of Mandingo, of all things; look it up. Also studied with Strasberg, and She delivered a memorable performance in the Twilight Zone episode "The Masks" in March 1964 And here she is with Groucho on GE Theater, both looking cool (bring back anthology TV!)
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/03/Groucho_Marx_Brooke_Hayward_General_Electric_Theater_1961.jpg
Hayward and Groucho Marx in the General Electric Theater presentation of "The Hold Out", 1961
Her last screen appearance was in a small role in John Guare's 1993 film adaptation of Six Degrees of Separation, with Stockard Channing, Donald Sutherland, and Will Smith. Also cool, and she's still with us.

His next: Michelle Phillips; married October 31, 1970 – divorced November 8, 1970 When my friend's marriage ended, he quoted Phillips' father, to the effect, "That was their Halloween." Didn't know she did so much acting, but she did. Was The Last Movie, for instance. Also a solo album I'd kinda like to hear

Then:
Daria Halprin; married 1972 – divorced 1976, 1 child, daughter Ruthanna Hopper (b. 1972) Knew her from Zabriskie Point of course, but before that, In 1968, she appeared in Revolution, a documentary by Jack O'Connell. Shot mainly in San Francisco, the film depicted the counterculture movement and featured a series of interviews with that city’s hippie residents.
After Zabriskie Point, she and co-star Mark Frechette alprin briefly joined self-styled guru Mel Lyman, a former member of the Jim Kweskin Jug Band, and his 100-member commune.[3]

In 1972, Halprin appeared in John Flynn's thriller The Jerusalem File.

Not too distracted by Hopper, n the 1970s, Halprin developed an interest in creative arts therapy. In 1978, she and her mother Anna founded the Tamalpa Institute[4] and developed the Halprin Process. She has written The Expressive Body in Life, Art and Therapy and Coming Alive: The Creative Expression Method, and she was a contributing author to Foundations of Expressive Arts Therapy.

Was *in* The Last Movie, I meant to say.
Come in now, Number Three:
Katherine LaNasa; married June 17, 1989 – divorced April 1992, 1 child, son Henry Lee Hopper (b. 1990)
Ballet dancer, choreographer, and actress, who for instance did a whole helluva lotta TV, including:
LaNasa guest starred on number of television series, including Seinfeld, 3rd Rock from the Sun, Touched by an Angel, and The Practice, and in 2001 landed the lead role of Bess Bernstein-Flynn Keats in the NBC comedy series Three Sisters (2001–2002) opposite Dyan Cannon, A. J. Langer, and Vicki Lewis.[4] The series was cancelled after two seasons in 2002.[5] She later had recurring roles in Judging Amy as Yvonne Dunbar, as Kim McPherson on The Guardian, and as Michelle Colohan on NYPD Blue
... In 2011, after a decade of making various television appearances, she had roles opposite Will Ferrell and Zack Galifianakis in the 2012 political comedy The Campaign, and 2013 thriller The Frozen Ground.[8] Before this, she had a role in Billy Bob Thornton's drama film Jayne Mansfield's Car, originally created for Robin Wright.[8] Among other movies. Later a reg in reboot of Dynasty, scheduled for 2019 Apple TV w Octavia Spencer, but oh yeah about the matrimony:
LaNasa, at the age of 22, married 53-year-old actor Dennis Hopper in June 1989;[2] the couple divorced in April 1992. Hopper and LaNasa had a son, Henry Lee Hopper (born 1990).[16]

On May 19, 1998, she married actor French Stewart.[17] They met when she made a guest appearance on a 1996 episode ("Green-Eyed Dick") of 3rd Rock from the Sun.[18] The two later divorced.[17] In July 2012, LaNasa became engaged to actor Grant Show, marrying him a few weeks later, on August 18.[19][20] She gave birth to the couple's first child, daughter Eloise McCue, on March 21, 2014.[21][22]

No wiki article on the last wife, but---don't read this without an airsick bag, I meant it:
Divorce from Victoria Duffy
On January 14, 2010, Hopper filed for divorce from his fifth wife Victoria Duffy.[57] After citing her "outrageous conduct" and stating she was "insane", "inhuman" and "volatile", Hopper was granted a restraining order against her on February 11, 2010, and as a result, she was forbidden to come within 10 feet (3 m) of him or contact him.[58] On March 9, 2010, Duffy refused to move out of the Hopper home, despite the court's order that she do so by March 15.[59]

On March 23, 2010, he filed papers in court alleging Duffy had absconded with US$1.5 million of his art, refused his requests to return it, and then had "left town".[60]

On April 5, 2010, a court ruled that Duffy could continue living on Hopper's property, and that he must pay US$12,000 per month spousal and child support for their daughter Galen. Hopper did not attend the hearing.[61] On May 12, 2010, a hearing was held before Judge Amy Pellman in downtown Los Angeles Superior Court. Though Hopper died two weeks later, Duffy insisted at the hearing that he was well enough to be deposed.[62] The hearing also dealt with whom to designate on Hopper's life insurance policy, which listed his wife as a beneficiary.[63] A very ill Hopper did not appear in court though his estranged wife did. Despite Duffy's bid to be named the sole beneficiary of Hopper's million-dollar policy, the judge ruled against her and limited her claim to one-quarter of the policy. The remaining US$750,000 was to go to his estate.[64]

On November 14, 2010, it was revealed that, despite Duffy's earlier assertion in her court papers of February 2010 that Hopper was mentally incompetent and that his children had rewritten his estate plan in order to leave Duffy and her daughter, Hopper's youngest child Galen, destitute, Galen would in fact receive the proceeds of 40% of his estate.[65]

Illness and death

Hopper at a ceremony to receive a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame on March 26, 2010, two months before his death
On September 28, 2009, Hopper, then 73, was reportedly taken by ambulance to an unidentified Manhattan hospital wearing an oxygen mask and "with numerous tubes visible".[66] On October 2, he was discharged, after receiving treatment for dehydration.[67]

On October 29, 2009, Hopper's manager Sam Maydew reported that he had been diagnosed with advanced prostate cancer.[68] In January 2010, it was reported that Hopper's cancer had metastasized to his bones.[69]

On March 18, 2010, he was honored with the 2,403rd star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame in front of Grauman's Egyptian Theatre on Hollywood Boulevard.[70] Surrounded by friends including Jack Nicholson, Viggo Mortensen, David Lynch, Michael Madsen, family and fans, he attended its addition to the sidewalk six days later.[71]

By March 2010, Hopper reportedly weighed only 100 pounds (45 kg) and was unable to carry on long conversations.[72] According to papers filed in his divorce court case, Hopper was terminally ill and was unable to undergo chemotherapy to treat his prostate cancer.[73][74]

Hopper died at his home in the coastal Venice district of Los Angeles, aged 74, on the morning of May 29, 2010.[75] His funeral took place on June 3, 2010, at San Francisco de Asis Mission Church in Ranchos de Taos, New Mexico. His body was buried at the Jesus Nazareno Cemetery in Ranchos de Taos.

The film Alpha and Omega, which was among his last film roles, was dedicated to him, as was the 2011 film Restless, which starred his son Henry Hopper.

Doesn't really work since the guy is a producer and not well-known but the list of bridesmaids gives an extra connection to this thread:

After the release of MASH, on December 17, 1970, Kellerman married Starsky & Hutch producer Rick Edelstein. Anjanette Comer, Morgan Ames, Lisabeth Hush, Joanne Linville, and Luana Anders were among her bridesmaids.  On March 6, 1972, Kellerman divorced Edelstein, citing irreconcilable differences.

Actually there is some more interesting stuff right after that in the Wikipedia article.

Wim Wenders and Ronee Blakley

He was also married to Isabelle Weingarten, who Bresson cast in Quatre Nuits d'une rêveur (in addition to a couple of actresses probably best known for working on his own films).

Wow, great find! She was also in La maman et la putain. Her Wikipedia page claims she was married to Olivier Assayas, but that doesn't seem to be correct.

It may be true? She seems to have been working mostly as a photographer at that point.

They seemed to have worked together and had some kind of relationship, not sure about marriage. Her wiki page also says she “starred” in La maman et la putain, which is not quite true.

IMDB just says relationship.

Have learned that in the 1980s before marrying into the Kardashians, Caitlyn Jenner was married to Linda Thompson. The same Linda Thompson who dated Elvis Presley 1972-1976, and who later became a successful songwriter.

Linda Thompson did some acting too, so qualifies for the thread

Another good find.

Posted this on rong thread, here tis!
Didn't know about her songwriting, did semi-recall that she and then-Bruce co-starred in a musical, Little Abner (he: Abner, she: Daisy Mae), Birmingham, https://www.al.com/entertainment/2015/04/bruce_jenner_on_stage_before_t.html (this from 2015, so no mention of Caitlyn). My friend's sister was in it, remembers Linda as gregarious, him as shy, but "stuck his head in the door, 'Hey, I'm Bruce.' ")

Linda also co-subject of this TV movie, which I thought was pretty good:
Elvis and the Beauty Queen

Memphis beauty queen Linda Thompson (Stephanie Zimbalist) recalls her five-year romance with Elvis Presley (Don Johnson).
Initial release: March 1, 1981
Director: Gus Trikonis
Starring: Don Johnson; Stephanie Zimbalist; Ann Dusenberry; Rick Lenz
Music by: Allyn Ferguson
Distributed by: NBC, Sony Pictures Television

― dow, Friday, February 25, 2022 1:34 PM (six minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Speaking of director Gus Trikonis, He began his career as an actor and dancer, notably appearing in the hugely successful 1961 film West Side Story as Indio, one of the "Sharks",[1] as well as dancing with Debbie Reynolds and Grover Dale to the frantic "He's My Friend" in 1964's The Unsinkable Molly Brown.
...Trikonis was married to actress Goldie Hawn from 1969 to 1976; he was her first husband and they have the same birthday. His sister is Gina Trikonis, an actress who also appeared in West Side Story, as Graziella, Riff's girlfriend.[3] Way to go, Gus! (Hope he wasn't too bad, Goldie.)

― dow, Friday, February 25

No mention of new name in that 2015 piece, but eventually in there: He'll be in another spotlight Friday night at 8 p.m. on ABC, when an exclusive interview with Diane Sawyer airs. Topics? The Kardashians, a recent fatal car wreck that involved the gold medalist, and long-standing rumors that he is taking steps to become a woman.

She married producers, not directors, but wow---didn't realize she'd had such a career, despite, as she says, not jumping at chance to capitalize on the success of M*A*S*H*: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sally_Kellerman
Guardian obit adds some detail about making of that movie and aftermath, also later gigs:
https://www.theguardian.com/film/2022/feb/27/sally-kellerman-obituary
Xgau's review of her first (early 70s) album sympathized w her and other actors' non-Broadway musical ventures getting automatically dismissed or low-rated back then--review's not on his site, but think I read it in his 70s Record Guide---nope, not there either! Maybe it was another actress?? Wiki sez she released another album in 2009---also, For a time in the mid-1970s, Kellerman was involved with Mark Farner of the rock group Grand Funk Railroad. He wrote the song "Sally", from the 1976 album Born to Die, as an ode to their relationship. Wonder how it compares to "Rosanna"? Is there a thread for songs about actresses?

was merlin olsen married to belinda carlyle?

Songs about specific actresses

I always thought the Velvets' New Age was about the Norma Desmond character in Sunset Boulevard.

― Dr X O'Skeleton, Friday, January 13, 2012 10:24 PM (ten years ago) bookmarkflaglink

Mary Beth Hurt and Paul Schrader

Acclaimed novelist and director of 92 in the Shade (1975) Thomas McGuane was married to Margot Kidder in the 1970s. Earlier in the '70s he had had an affair with Elizabeth Ashley.

McGuane had a non-celeb first wife who Peter Fonda later married. McGuane evened the score by marrying Fonda's ex-wife Laurie Buffett, sister of Jimmy Buffett (I was reminded of this by the excellent Jimmy Buffett article in the current New Yorker magazine.

Margot Kidder AND Elizabeth Ashley? McGuane had a "type," didn't he?

Anna Karina (born Hanne Karin Bayer;[1][2] 22 September 1940 – 14 December 2019)[3] was a Danish-French film avant garde actress, director, writer, and singer. She was French New Wave director Jean-Luc Godard's collaborator in the 1960s

...In 1972, she set up a production company, Raska, for her directorial debut, Living Together (Vivre ensemble, 1973), in which she also acted. The film screened in the Critics’ Week lineup at the 26th Cannes Film Festival.[6]She later wrote and acted in Last Song (1987)(directed by her last husband, Dennis Berry, about whom more presently) Karina wrote, directed and starred in Victoria (2008), a musical road movie filmed in Montreal and Saguenay–Lac-Saint-Jean, Quebec. The lead character, played by Karina, has amnesia.[14] Richard Kuipers praised it in Variety as "a pleasant gambol through the backwoods of Quebec."[31].

Music and writing
Karina maintained a singing career.[26] At the end of the 1960s, she scored a major hit with "Sous le soleil exactement" and "Roller Girl" by Serge Gainsbourg. Both songs are from the TV musical comedy Anna (1967), by the film director Pierre Koralnik, in which she sings seven songs alongside Gainsbourg and Jean-Claude Brialy. Karina subsequently recorded an album, Une histoire d'amour, with Philippe Katerine, which was followed by a concert tour. In 2005, she released Chansons de films, a collection of songs sung in movies.

Karina wrote four novels: Vivre ensemble (1973), Golden City (1983), On n'achète pas le soleil (1988), and Jusqu'au bout du hasard (1998).[7]

While working together on Le Petit Soldat, Karina and Godard began a relationship and married in 1961.[32] Eventually, Karina served as a cinematic muse to Godard, appearing in eight of his films, including Alphaville, Bande à part, and Pierrot le Fou, during their five-year marriage and after. Karina liked being the muse. "How could I not be honoured?" she told Xan Brooks of The Guardian in 2016. "Maybe it's too much, it sounds so pompous. But of course I’m always very touched to hear people say that. Because Jean-Luc gave me a gift to play all of those parts. It was like Pygmalion, you know? I was Eliza Doolittle and he was the teacher." At this, she briefly channels Henry Higgins. "By Jove," she says. "I think she's got it."[10]

The couple became, according to The Independent, "one of the most celebrated pairings of the 1960s."[26] A writer for Filmmaker magazine called their work "arguably the most influential body of work in the history of cinema."[33]

Despite the critical success, their relationship behind the scenes was described as tumultuous; they fought on film sets, Karina fell ill several times, and Godard was often absent without explanation.[23][18][34] One Godard film from this period which does not feature Karina, Contempt (1963), is said to be based on their difficult relationship.[16] The couple divorced in 1965.[18]

After divorcing Godard, Karina remarried three times; she was married to French actors Pierre Fabre from 1968 to 1974 and Daniel Duval from 1978 to 1981, and to American film director Dennis Berry from 1982 until her death.[18][36]

Karina died at the age of 79 on Saturday, 14 December 2019, at a hospital in Paris. According to her agent, Laurent Balandras, the cause of death was cancer.[14] However, her husband, Dennis Berry, said that the cause was not cancer, but a complication following a muscular rupture.[37]
from 2014 Twitter, thence to the Giant Sand/Howe Gelb thread:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BkKDg-rIEAAOATD.jpg

Joan Vich Montaner ‏@joanvich

. @howegelb_ estuvo ayer grabando un dueto con Anna Karina (sí, ¡Anna Karina!). Mañana empieza su gira española.

Dennis Berry!
Dennis Charles Berry (August 11, 1944 – June 12, 2021)[1] was an American-French film director, actor, and screenwriter.[2] He was the son of director John Berry.

Selected filmography
La Collectionneuse (actor, 1967)
Paulina Is Leaving – Paulina s'en va (actor, 1969)
Promise at Dawn (actor, 1970)
Borsalino (actor, 1970)
The Big Delirium (director, 1975)
Last Song (director, 1987)
Chloé (director, 1996)
Stargate SG-1 (director, 1997)
Highlander: The Raven (director, 1998)
Adventure Inc. (director 2 episodes, 2003)
Mata Hari (director, 2016 TV series)[3][4]

Wonder if I can get a bigger pic, putting sep:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BkKDg-rIEAAOATD.jpg

above AK info from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anna_Karina

Well the really interesting thing about Dennis Berry is that not only was he married to Anna Karina at the time of her death, but he had also been married to (though separated from) Jean Seberg at the time of her death.

Oh, good catch. I only knew about Jean Seberg's marriage to Romain Gary.

Mylène van der Mersch was married to a Dutch filmmaker named François Weyergans, who assisted Robert Bresson and directed a documentary about him in the mid-60's. Bresson apparently proposed to Anne Wiazemsky while they worked on Au Hazard, Balthazar; though she didn't accept, at some point he married van der Mersch (who appears in the film under the name Mylène Weyergans). She went on to be his assistant director for the rest of his life.

Jean Simmons and Richard Brooks.

Dennis Hopper and Michelle Phillips
Dennis Hopper and Daria Halprin (from Zabriskie Point)

Noticed that last one recently.

The last time I remember Zabriskie Point coming up

I posted upthread, not very long ago, about all of Hopper's wives, also one of his mothers-in-law, and her marital connections.

His first wife Brooke Hayward, Margaret Sullavan's daughter, or so I gather.

You are correct, sir (DING!)(applause)

Dennis Hopper and Michelle Phillips; married October 31, 1970 – divorced November 8, 1970

Chaining your bride to the radiator is not a good recipe for a long-lasting marriage?!?

No comment.

Not a director but an agent and producer. Freddie Fields was married four times including to Polly Bergen (recently seen on To Tell the Truth #onethread) and to Kyriaki "Corinna" Tsopei, the Greek Miss Universe who played the love interest in A Man Called Horse.

In 2004, Bergen played Fran Felstein on HBO's The Sopranos, the former mistress of Johnny Soprano and John F. Kennedy.

Yeah, was noticing that. Also, Freddie Fields seems like kind of a John Derek figure. #Onethread.

Had no recollection of that from having watched the show when it first ran.

Shoehorning in:
After Ernie Kovacs died, Edie Adams remarried and then divorced and remarried again, this time to Pete Candoli, who she met when they were both in a touring company of Anything Goes. Don’t think I ever told you guys that one summer I worked for Actor’s Equity behind the Plaza Theater and helped open the mail from all those touring companies. The regular companies too maybe, but for some reason that wasn’t as memorable to me.

Mirren lived with Northern Irish actor Liam Neeson during the early 1980s; they met while working on Excalibur (1981). When interviewed by James Lipton for Inside the Actors Studio, Neeson said Mirren was instrumental in him getting an agent.

Mirren began dating American director Taylor Hackford in 1986. They were married on 31 December 1997 at the Ardersier Parish Church near Inverness in the Scottish Highlands.[104] They met on the set of White Nights (1985). It is her first marriage and his third (he has two children from his previous marriages). She has no children, stating she has "no maternal instinct whatsoever".[105]

Mirren's autobiography, In the Frame: My Life in Words and Pictures, was published in the UK by Weidenfeld & Nicolson in September 2007. Reviewing for The Stage, John Thaxter wrote: "Sumptuously illustrated, at first sight it looks like another of those photo albums of the stars. But between the pictures there are almost 200 pages of densely printed text, an unusually frank story of her private and professional life, mainly in the theatre, the words clearly Mirren's own, delivered with forthright candour."[106]

Oh yeah, scrolled past mention of somebody involved with a Redd Krosser, and reminded me of Sofia Coppola dating RK's Steven MacDonald (wiki re their Third Eye: The naked masked woman on the cover of the album is Sofia Coppola.[7][8]) Otherwise:

n 1992, Coppola met director Spike Jonze; they married in 1999 and divorced in 2003. In an official statement, Coppola's publicist explained that the divorce decision was reached "with sadness". It is widely believed that the main character's husband in Lost in Translation is based on Jonze, as Coppola stated after the film's release, "There are elements of Spike there, elements of experiences."[86][87]

From 2003 to 2005 Coppola dated filmmaker Quentin Tarantino. They have remained friends since their separation.[88]

Coppola married musician Thomas Mars on August 27, 2011, at Palazzo Margherita in Bernalda, Italy. They met while producing the soundtrack to The Virgin Suicides.[89] They have two daughters: Romy (born November 28, 2006), whose name is an homage to Coppola's brother Roman,[90][91] and Cosima (born May 2010).[citation needed]

Thomas Pablo Croquet (born 21 November 1976), known as Thomas Mars, is a French musician and the lead singer of the French indie pop band Phoenix.

Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain)
7mo ago
About to bust up in here like Kool-Aid Man with Ron Dante and Lana Turner, but her Ron Dante wasn't _the_ Ron Dante.

ABBA was going to write a song about those two men, but they changed the title at the last minute to "Andante, Andante".

This is as good a time as any to bring up Lana Turner's steamy affair with Kool-Aid Man.

Soon to be made into a major Hollywood Oliver Stone/Quentin Tarantino/Paul Thomas Anderson co-production, The Real Kool-Aid Killers.

Not both actors - you could argue neither were - but the one that always surprises me is George Lazenby and Pam Shriver.

― Eats like Elvis, shits like De Niro (Tom D.), Sunday, January 15, 2017 10:06 AM (five years ago)

Stumbled across this one today while watching Pam in her job as Wimbledon commentator.

Also, she had three kids with Lazenby in her 40s (and he in his 60s)!

Debbie Harry and Penn Jillette dated according to Wikipedia.

I'm betting Debbie likes to keep that one quiet.

If she wanted to keep that one quiet, she would have dated Teller.

💯

Susan Hanson aka Miss Diane from Crossroads was briefly married to Tommy Vance and much longer to The Move’s Carl Wayne.

I did a double take and thought that said Carol Wayne. Who apparently was married to Burt Sugarman, producer of Celebrity Sweepstakes AND The Midnight Special along with some other shows, and who later married Mary Hart, who he is still married to.

(xp) I knew about Carl Wayne, they were like the glamorous celebrity couple of the West Midlands, also Carl Wayne appeared on Crossroads a few times.

Clifford Odets and Luise Rainer

Which is pushing it a bit as is the following pairing but still.

Oleg Cassini and Gene Tierney

Myrna Loy was married for several years to Arthur Hornblow Jr, producer and eponym for Horatio Hornblower.

Abby Dalton of Roger Corman films and later Falcon Crest, and in-demand West Coast jazz bassist Joe Mondragon

He who played the bass on the Peggy Lee version of "Fever." Good catch.

He said, "Abby, baby, you're my flame - thou giveth fever"

Heh. I think people get confused about who played that part. I know I used to think it was Max Bennett since I associate him more with Peggy Lee. Max Bennett's nephew used to work in a video store in Brooklyn Heights where I may have rented much of the work of some of these old-timey pairs.
https://www.nytimes.com/1999/10/03/nyregion/captain-video.html
https://www.indiewire.com/2006/03/did-netflix-kill-my-local-video-store-135089/
https://www.wweek.com/arts/2019/12/10/a-portland-filmmaker-examines-the-significance-of-video-stores-and-the-path-forward-for-the-few-that-remain/
https://gothamist.com/news/no-ashtray-for-you
http://howesbrooklyn.com/howesbrooklyn/howes-brooklyn-marty-arno/

^obnoxious thread starter derail

No actors or directors, but definitely old-timey:
Screenwriter and Phantom Lady producer Joan Harrison and novelist/screenwriter Eric Ambler.

First place they lived after their wedding was a house Eric was renting in which Vincente Minnelli had once lived.

Just learnt that Sally Timms of The Mekons was married to Fred Armisen.

Wow! Just read about his other marriage too.

Cliff Robertson & Dina Merrill

Not really old time, but Diane Cilento and Anthony Schaeffer.

Screenwriter, producer and WWII rear admiral Gene Mackey was married to- wait for it- Joan Bennett, Hedy Lamarr and Myrna Loy.

Do ur thing gene

*Markey. Crazy he could look back from the perspective of 1947 and realize that in the previous 10 years he had spent some time married to each of those women, plus was divorced for five years, plus fought in WWII.

Oops, thanks for fixing. That’s Admiral Gene Markey to you.

Here’s one that’s evaded us so far:
James Lipton and Nina Foch

James Lipton’s father’s Wikipedia page is wild.

We didn’t even mention Admiral “Bull” Halsey. There’s a whole book about the horse farm the guy had with his fourth wife.

https://academic.oup.com/kentucky-scholarship-online/book/33970/chapter-abstract/288841040?redirectedFrom=fulltext

An unattractive man whospent much of his early career writing B-movie screenplays, Gene Markey possessed enough charm and wit to convince actresses Joan Bennett, Hedy Lamarr, and Myrna Loy to take a walk down the aisle with him while they were at the height of their careers. None of these marriages lasted more than a few years, however. Markey had raised his ante as a successful producer at 20th Century Fox by the time he married his fourth wife: Lucille Parker Wright, the widowed owner of America’s most powerful racing stable, Calumet Farm. The Markeys won three Kentucky Derbies with Iron Liege, Tim Tam, and Forward Pass before mismanagement drove Calumet into a downward spiral from which it never recovered, signaling the end of the Golden Age of horse racing in America

Shooters shoot

https://timesmachine.nytimes.com/timesmachine/1980/05/02/111236441.html?pageNumber=94
He graduated from Dartmouth, attended the Art Institute of Chicago and "chronicled the Jazz Age in several novels."

We didn’t even mention Admiral “Bull” Halsey. There’s a whole book about the horse farm the guy had with his fourth wife

Whose fourth wife? I only see one wife listed for Admiral Halsey

Ha, Admiral Markey's fourth wife. Sorry for the misleading ellipsis or what-have-you.

Wrote some horse racing novels in later years.

Lots of photos of him online with his famous spouses, in particular Hedy Lamarr.

How about this: Raoul Walsh and Walter Pidgeon were brothers-in-law, although it’s hard to tell from Wikipedia since Walsh’s second wife’s maiden name seems wrong. Unless it was a married named from later on.

Now I want to read this Brian Kellow book about the Bennetts.

And the Richard Rhodes book about Hedy Lamarr.

I was wondering if, during his naval service, Gene Markey ever had the chance to use the “frequency hopping” technology developed by his second wife Hedy Lamarr.

The answer is no, as the US Navy didn’t use that technology until the 1960s.

Thanks for looking into that.

The Hedy Lamarr book has given me the following pairing:
Janet Gaynor and MGM costume designer Adrian, he of the ruby red slippers.

Guess they are mostly known as just the ruby slippers.

Conductor/bandleader not a director and singer only briefly turned actress but
Lily Pons and Andre Kostelanetz

My work for this weekend is done.

Janet Gaynor and (Gilbert) Adrian is a very interesting case. More later perhaps.

HI DERE

Admiral Bull Halsey was best man at Gene Markey’s wedding to Myrna Loy! The bride was given away, as at her first wedding to Arthur Hornblow Jr., by John Ford.

Both Markey and his friend Hornblow were Dartmouth men, as was another friend, producer and writer Collier “Collie” Young, who was married to both Ida Lupino and Joan Fontaine, along with a few others I am unfamiliar with.

Wiki sez:

After his divorce from Lupino, Young was executive director of her 1957–58 CBS sitcom Mr. Adams and Eve, co-starring Lupino's then-husband, Howard Duff. Elements of his screenplay for The Bigamist mined his serial relationships with Lupino and Fontaine, who played the deceived wives of that film.

Janet Gaynor and (Gilbert) Adrian is a very interesting case. More later perhaps.

Don't think this has been mentioned yet: Gig Young & Elizabeth Montgomery

Nope, good find.

Jose Ferrer and Rosemary Clooney - twice!

Especially surprising since I believe he was kind of a bad husband. Or maybe nothing about it should be surprising at all.

Okay, while I am still mining this harborvein:

The ceremony in the chapel of Roosevelt Navy Base, at Terminal Island, San Pedro, might have been titled “Here Comes the Groom.” It was all about Gene Markey, who on his wedding day sported navy dress blues with the wide gold commodore’s band on his sleeve, and on his chest displayed the Bronze Star he’d won for leading a reconnaissance mission in the Solomon Islands. He had served in the Pacific on the staff of Admiral William F. “Bull” Halsey’s Third Fleet, and because Gene wanted Admiral Halsey as his best man, the date of the wedding was chosen to accommodate Halsey’s schedule. Halsey would be in the Los Angeles area to lead the Tournament of Roses parade, so an early January date was chosen. Gene also wanted his old sailing and drinking buddy, John Ford, who became a navy captain during the war and had reconnected with Markey during service in New Delhi, to participate in the wedding party. Ford, who had directed Myrna in The Black Watch and Arrowsmith but had seen little of her since, gave the bride away. Myrna didn’t even know he would escort her down the aisle until the day of the wedding.

Myrna Loy: the only good girl in Hollywood, Emily W. Leider.

Okay, I’ve had about enough of this guy. Time to put the Admiral in the rear view mirror and say goodbye to this screenname.

Jack Jones & Jill St. John

I hope they released a single or two as Jack and Jill

Ha, was thinking something similar.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpTNoq2np_4

Lt. Hookstratten: Did you ever run into a musical group works out of Kansas City call themselves "Four Jacks and a Jill"? They've been at a Ramada Inn there for about 18 months. If you're ever in Kansas City and want to hear some good music, you might want to drop by.

How did I not know she’s been married to Robert Wagner for decades.

St. John was in a children's ballet company with Wagner's late wife Natalie Wood and his TV wife Stefanie Powers.

Self-XPS

That 'Spinal Tarp' clip reminds me: Michael McKean & Annette O'Toole.

Mildly surprised to find out that Billy Dee Williams is married to Wayne Shorter's ex-wife Teruko Nakagami.

Which is the thread for newer-timey couples I never knew about for some reason like Chloë Sevigny and Jarvis Cocker.

How about this guy: Dutch actor Robert Wolders, who played a lot of Latin lover roles on US television, was married to Merle Oberon until her death, then dated Audrey Hepburn until her death, at which point he dated Leslie Caron for a year then started a two-decade relationship with Henry Fonda’s widow Shirlee.

Michel Piccoli and Juliette Gréco were married for a decade? Stop thread!

Nobody took the bait of my previous post so was worried the thread had run its course for a while there.

UK athletics 400 metres blonde bombshell (and later bodybuilder) Donna Hartley and not-as-famous Northern comedian (and later actor) Bobby Knutt.

Fredric Forrest & Marilu Henner

Stewart Granger and Jean SImmons

Carlos Saura and Geraldine Chaplin

As far as I know, Rebecca De Mornay has only directed "The Conversion," a 1995 episode of the Outer Limits reboot, but also

...she appeared in the 1995 drama film Never Talk to Strangers opposite Antonio Banderas, for which she was also the executive producer....
De Mornay dated actor Harry Dean Stanton in the early 1980s. They met in 1981 on the set of One From the Heart[19] and dated until De Mornay and Tom Cruise began an affair while filming Risky Business in 1982.[20] De Mornay and Cruise broke up in 1985.

De Mornay married writer Bruce Wagner on December 16, 1986; they divorced in 1990.[21]

De Mornay subsequently dated and was briefly engaged to singer Leonard Cohen.[22][23] She co-produced Cohen's 1992 album The Future, which is also dedicated to her.

De Mornay was in a relationship with actor turned sportcaster Patrick O'Neal. They have two daughters together.[24][25]

(Harry Dean Stanton?! What's he got that I oh never mind)

Having just seen that movie whoooooo boy

This must have been well-covered in the celeb mags at the time, but I didn't know Ryan O'Neal was married to Leigh Taylor-Young from 1967 to '71. Their son was Patrick O'Neal, the actor turned sportscaster mentioned above who has daughters with Rebecca De Mornay.

Wonder if they fraternized with the Hopper-Haywards.

Constance Dowling

Dowling had been involved in a long affair with married director Elia Kazan in New York. He couldn't bring himself to leave his wife and the affair ended when Dowling went to Hollywood under contract to Goldwyn.[11] She was later linked with the famous Italian poet and novelist Cesare Pavese who committed suicide in 1950 after a lifelong depression aggravated, at one point, by having been rejected by Dowling who, in Pavese's poetry, is often linked to spring ("face of springtime").[12] One of his last poems is entitled "Death will come and she'll have your eyes".[13][14]

In 1955, Dowling married film producer Ivan Tors, writer and producer of her last film. (Another source, published two years earlier, refers to Dowling and Tors as "honeymooning.")[15] She then retired from acting, going on to have three sons and a foster child with Tors: Steven, David, Peter and foster son Alfred Ndwego of Kenya.[16] (An obituary listed Ndwego as an adopted son rather than a foster son and spelled his last name Ndewga.)[17]

Talia Balsam, not that well known, but has done a lot, married to actor-director John Slattery:

Balsam married actor George Clooney in Las Vegas in 1989; they were divorced in 1993.[5] In an interview with Vanity Fair after their divorce, Clooney stated, "I probably (definitely) wasn't someone who should have been married at that point. I just don't feel like I gave Talia a fair shot."[6] Since 1998, Balsam has been married to John Slattery, with whom she has a son, Harry Slattery.[7] They married in Kauai, Hawaii.[1] They played husband and wife Roger and Mona Sterling in Mad Men. Balsam lives with her family in SoHo, Manhattan.[8]

Balsam was born in New York City on March 5, 1959, to actors Martin Balsam and Joyce Van Patten.[1] Her ancestry is Russian Jewish (father) and Italian, Dutch, and English (mother). She is the niece of actor Dick Van Patten, actress Pat Van Patten and actor and director Tim Van Patten. Her cousin is actress Grace Van Patten.

Anthony Newley & Joan Collins

William Friedkin & actress/studio executive Sherry Lansing

#onethread

... and Jeanne Moreau and Lesley-Anne Down!

The late Gayle Hunnicutt and David Hemmings

Oliver Reed anecdote from his thread:

When he met Gayle Hunnicut, then the wife of David Hemmings and later of Simon Jenkins, he thought he was being charming by announcing, ‘Give me a kiss, you fucking lovely Texan whore.’

Edward Woodward and Michele "Ooh Betty" Dotrice.

Was just watching the CinemaScope ancient world costumer Land of the Pharaohs (1955) in which a beautiful French actress named Kerima plays the consort of the Pharaoh. Turns out Kerima was married to James Bond director Guy Hamilton for over 50 years (until his death). Also, she’s still alive today at 98. #onethread

***spoiler alert*** Kerima’s character is murdered by Joan Collins in the film

Nice. Have you seen her in Outcast of the Islands?

No, it looks like the only other thing I would have seen her in is The Quiet American

Screenwriters not directors but
Robert Riskin and Fay Wray
Niven Busch and Teresa Wright

Also just learned that Fay Wray’s first name was Vina, which makes me think of a certain Star Trek character.

Not married, but John Ford dating Katharine Hepburn (I think in the '30s?) is still a crazy one to me - maybe the war changed him more than I realized, but he never struck me as having a fraction of, say, Spencer Tracy's warmth or humor.

Also Howard Hawks dating a very young Sherry Lansing who was then an actress but later a powerful studio CEO (and married to Friedkin!)

Jackie Coogan and Betty Grable.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0y1hiapJzh4

Shelley Fabares and Mike Farrell, married since 1984

This is on the blindingly obvious side of obvious but - I knew Jamie Lee Curtis was Tony Curtis's daughter, but didn't realise the Lee was from his wife, Janet Leigh of Psycho

And that she's married to Christopher Guest (and is technically The Right Honourable the Lady Haden-Guest)

And previously dated Adam Ant!

Yeah, work's going fine, why?

Shelley Fabares and Mike Farrell, married since 1984

And Shelley's prior husband was music biz legend Lou Adler (married in '64, separated in '66, finally divorced in '80).

Orson Welles and Chicago-born actress and socialite Virginia Nicolson (1916–1996) were married on November 14, 1934.[17]: 332  "Regardless of his later comments, the two were very much in love," wrote biographer Patrick McGilligan, "and she was his salvation."[157] The couple separated in December 1939[20]: 226  and were divorced on February 1, 1940.[158][159] After bearing with Welles's romances in New York, Virginia had learned that Welles had fallen in love with Mexican actress Dolores del Río.[20]: 227 

Infatuated with her since adolescence, Welles met del Río at Darryl Zanuck's ranch[22]: 206  soon after he moved to Hollywood in 1939.[20]: 227 [22]: 168  Their relationship was kept secret until 1941, when del Río filed for divorce from her second husband. They openly appeared together in New York while Welles was directing the Mercury stage production Native Son.[22]: 212  They acted together in the movie Journey into Fear (1943). Their relationship came to an end due, among other things, to Welles's infidelities. Del Río returned to Mexico in 1943, shortly before Welles married Rita Hayworth.[160]

Welles married Rita Hayworth on September 7, 1943.[22]: 278  They were divorced on November 10, 1947.[93]: 142  During his last interview, recorded for The Merv Griffin Show on the evening before his death, Welles called Hayworth "one of the dearest and sweetest women that ever lived ... and we were a long time together—I was lucky enough to have been with her longer than any of the other men in her life."[161]

In 1955, Welles married actress Paola Mori (née Countess Paola di Gerfalco), an Italian aristocrat who starred as Raina Arkadin in his 1955 film, Mr. Arkadin. The couple began a passionate affair, and they were married at her parents' insistence.[26]: 168  They were wed in London May 8, 1955,[17]: 417, 419  and never divorced.

Croatian-born artist and actress Oja Kodar became Welles's long-time companion both personally and professionally from 1966 onward, and they lived together for some of the last twenty years of his life.[26]: 255–258

In the 1940s, Welles had a brief relationship with Maila Nurmi, who, according to the bio Glamour Ghoul: The Passions and Pain of the Real Vampira, Maila Nurmi, became pregnant; since Welles was at the time married to Hayworth, Nurmi gave the child up for adoption.[170] However, the child mentioned in the book was born in 1944. Nurmi revealed in an interview weeks before her death in January 2008 how she met Welles in a New York casting office in the spring of 1946.[171]

Lots of other offscreen storylines in here, like

Welles is thought to have had a son, British director Michael Lindsay-Hogg (born 1940), with Irish actress Geraldine Fitzgerald, then the wife of Sir Edward Lindsay-Hogg, 4th baronet.[32][163] When Lindsay-Hogg was 16, his mother reluctantly divulged pervasive rumors that his father was Welles, and she denied them—but in such detail that he doubted her veracity.[164][165]: 15 

Fitzgerald evaded the subject for the rest of her life. Lindsay-Hogg knew Welles, worked with him in the theatre and met him at intervals throughout Welles's life.[163] After learning that Welles's oldest daughter, Chris, his childhood playmate, had long suspected that he was her brother,[166] Lindsay-Hogg initiated a DNA test that proved inconclusive. In his 2011 autobiography, Lindsay-Hogg reported that his questions were resolved by his mother's close friend Gloria Vanderbilt, who wrote that Fitzgerald had told her that Welles was his father.[165]: 265–267  A 2015 Welles biography by Patrick McGilligan, however, reports the impossibility of Welles's paternity: Fitzgerald left the U.S. for Ireland in May 1939, and her son was conceived before her return in late October, whereas Welles did not travel overseas during that period.[11]: 602

Two actors but omg:
Louis Calhern and Natalie Schafer

No buts about it, that’s a good one

🙏👍

She apparently pretended to everyone including her husband that she was twelve years younger than she was. They never quite believed her but nobody knew the real number for ages.

The first of Calhern’s four wives was actress Ilka Chase, who I’m afraid is just a name to me. Chase was married thrice. Her second husband had kind of an interesting bio I can’t summarize here.

Music critic of the Brooklyn Eagle (the 2nd husband). I think that paper has been digitally archived so we could probably check out his work.

yep--meanwhile:
Jack Fisk, who may well get another Oscar nom for his design of Killers of the Osage Moon, has been married to Sissy Spacek since 1974.
They met

while working on Terrence Malick's 1973 film Badlands, where she portrayed the aloof and distant version of Caril Ann Fugate. They married on April 12, 1974. They have two daughters, Schuyler Fisk (born 1982), also an actress, and Madison Fisk (born 1988), a painter.

Fisk was art director on Brian De Palma's Carrie (1976), in which his wife, Sissy Spacek, played the title role. He frequently collaborates with directors Terrence Malick and David Lynch (whom he has known since childhood). His production design and art director credits include all of Malick's first eight feature films and Lynch's The Straight Story (1999) and Mulholland Drive (2001). He was nominated for the Academy Award for Best Art Direction for Paul Thomas Anderson's There Will Be Blood. He received his second Academy Award nomination for the film The Revenant at the 88th Academy Awards.[2]
Fisk appeared in Lynch's Eraserhead (1977) as the Man in the Planet, and the film's credits give "special thanks" to him and to Sissy Spacek (who reputedly held the slates between takes).[citation needed]

Fisk directed Spacek in the films Raggedy Man[3] and Violets Are Blue with Kevin Kline.[4]

Wait, stop the presses! Natalie Schafer apparently had a relationship with Ernst Lubitsch.

She might have married him too if he hadn’t had a coronary and died whilst shtupping someone else while they were on opposite coasts.

All this info can only be found in the Scott Eyman bio, as far as I know.

What else can known about Natalie Schafer? She was a friend and neighbor of Mary Martin and she hated working with Fritz Lang, that’s all I got.

So Jeanette MacDonald was happily married to an actor named Gene Raymond, although they never had any kids. He is totally lost to the sands of time for me, but seems to show up in the bios of other actors. For instance, he has twenty mentions in Victoria Wilson's monumental if partial Stanwyck bio, co-starring with her at least once and introducing her to her publicist Helen Ferguson, who was also his and Jeanette's publicist.

He was in Zoo in Budapest, which is still only a title to me. Morbius gave it 6/10.

Raymond was in Red Dust as they guy whose wife Clark Gable chases, the wife being Mary Astor.

The male lead in Flying Down to Rio. Upstaged by Fred and Ginger, obviously.

I remember being really shocked when I found out Vigo Mortenson was married to Exene Cervenka.

I won an advanced-level trivia game with that…

Q. Name a movie with two of Exene’s husbands in it.
A. The 1997 remake of Vanishing Point

Ooh v good! She and Vigo have a son! I'm sure this one is one here somewhere but I don't want to search - I love that Gary Oldman and Uma Thurman were briefly married.

Albert Finney and Anouk Aimée.

She was also married to Nico Papatakis for a few years before that and had a child with him.

Donna Reed and make-up artist William J. Tuttle.

Zsa Zsa Gabor and George Sanders. Can you imagine?

Linda Darnell was married to some award-winning cinematographer I never heard of before, Peverell Marley.

This thread does not seem to mention that George Sanders was also married to Magda Gabor. Although it is mentioned on this other thread by amateurist: Who was George Sanders?

Speaking of these last two mentions, the second wife of the German-born director of Hangover Square, John Brahm, was German-then-American actress Dolly Haas who, a few years after divorcing Brahm married caricaturist Al Hirschfeld and a few years later gave birth to, you guessed it, Nina.

Robert Wolders, mentioned upthread, played a handsome ski instructor on an episode of The Mary Tyler Moore Show #onethread
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYaPvU8q9A4
Bonus points for Lisa Gerritsen.

Was watching an Italian James Bond knockoff from the ‘60s in which French actor Jacques Bergerac (Gigi) played essentially the Dr. Evil character.

Didn’t know Bergerac was once married to Ginger Rogers. Not just that, but she “discovered” him and brought him to MGM.

Also didn’t know that Bergerac was subsequently married to Dorothy Malone.

Wow

not quite the thread topic, but i was unprepared to learn that greta scacchi was married to both tim finn and vincent d'onofrio

She's in this video for Tim Finn's Carve You In Marble:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_oOZz--Xfg

I love this song.

Evelyn Keyes was married to someone I never heard of, then Charles Vidor, then John Huston, then later Artie Shaw, although being married to Artie Shaw, similar to being married Mickey Rooney, should probably not count.

― Vini C. Riley (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, June 30, 2019 8:46 PM (four years ago) bookmarkflaglink

i was coming here with this one (just watched here comes mr. jordan the other night). to be fair, she was married to artie shaw for almost 30 years, his longest marriage by a significant amount

also charles vidor is a different person than king vidor (something i did not realize initially)

King Charles... Vidor

Denholm Elliott and Virginia McKenna.

Not quite old timey and never married but... Patti Lupone and Kevin Kline.

Even less old times and definitely married: Kevin Kline and Phoebe Cates

*timey

Technically doesn’t quite work but: Walter Matthau’s wife Carol, who was supposedly the inspiration for Holly Golightly as well as Glenn Close’s portrayal of Norma Desmond in Sunset Boulevard, had previously been married to William Saroyan.

She's in Mikey and Nicky. Her memoir, Among the Porcupines, is a great read and talks about the making of the film.

i learned last week that james mason was belinda carlisle's father-in-law

Feel like I just read or heard something about him coaching another, younger actor or actress, telling them to close their eyes right before the camera started rolling, both as a way to concentrate and to dilate the pupils

Two actors: Betty Garrett and Larry Parks

Beata Tyszkiewicz and Andrzej Wajda