The New York Times 25 Best Movies of the Century

glad The Tree Movie isn't here to be an easy way out of this mess

Hurt locker? Llewyn Davis? Fuck off

wd vote for either Spirited Away or Touch of Sin, rankings are stupid, obv

toss up between Spirited Away and Wendy & Lucy

Yi Yi, In Jackson Heights, Silent Light, one of those.

oh -- Summer Hours too, one of my favorite movies, period.

Yi Yi
Spirited Away
Mad Max

I really want to see Touch of Sin.

i was hoping we could ignore this one

dull list for dullards

Lots of movies I am glad are not here. A couple I am surprised are not here (In the Mood for Love, Mulholland Drive). A couple I am sad are here (Million Dollar Baby, 40 Year Old, Llewyn, Boyhood, I'm Not There). Super happy to see Gleaners & I. Most I am OK with, as far as stupid lists go. I'm fine with There Will Be Blood or Spirited Away, maaaaybe Yi Yi, though tbh I have not seen a few of these.

inside out is really overrated

toss up between Spirited Away and Wendy & Lucy

― devvvine

Yi Yi or Munich but the list loses me at #1

a touch of sin by a mile, might be tempted to re-watch Munich.

The point of newspaper lists is to get people to watch movies. I already had a couple friends say they were gonna watch A Touch of Sin as a result of this thing.

The two Lynches and Tree of Life being supplanted by a handful of the most overrated, meh-worthy movies pretty much lost me straight away. But I will be interested to see which of the ones I'm less familiar with y'all rep for the hardest.

iirc the point of newspaper lists is to generate revenue for the newspaper (via people like me clicking to see whose names are responsible for this pile)

A service that generates a profit is okeedokee with me.

The responsible parties were fairly obvious, given the venue. But your click is greatly appreciated!

i automatically assume any dumb thing in nyt was produced by david brooks so i'm always in for a surprise

now see Million Dollar Baby was made for the David Brookses of the land.

Million Dollar Baby...now that was a movie!

Guess I should be thankful they didn't go for Trash Crash.

Inside Out is garbage wtf

You're garbage wtf.

Joshin bruh, but still gtfo imo.

it's not even close to the best Pixar movie of the century tho

guys if you argue it means the list won

voted for the wiseman, I guess I should see it one of these days

I prefer Ratatouille to Inside Out, but calling the latter garbage is baffling to me.

Voting Eternal Sunshine because while I like quite a few of these (There Will Be Blood, Inside Out, Boyhood, Moonlight) it's the only one I've seen multiple times.

Inside Out is a poorly plotted mess w literally one-dimensional characters

If i had to pick an animated kids feature for this list (which i def feel is not a valid requirement btw), I would pick Zootopia

The whole "journey back to the brain" is a bunch of arbitrary and nonsensical obstacles that serve no purpose beyond filling the running time

Inside Out doesn't have a hot fox iirc

Top of the century: Inland Empire and The Turin Horse. But, A Touch of Sin is right up there.

I've only seen 6 of these but I can't deny that those 6 are all movies I'm glad I saw, so good job I guess? Voted Boyhood just on grounds of strength of emotional reaction on viewing. (Certainly I had a stronger emotional reaction to Mulholland Drive, though, can't deny that.)

Kubo is hands down the Pixar type effort of the new century

In fact laika >>>>>>> pixar

voting Mad Max

Would probably go with mad max or there will be blood

Mad Max got me hooked on movies again after a long period of not going to see stuff. I hadn't been to the cinema in years before that came out, and since then I go a couple times a month.

I like the double meaning in dara's last post

1. Boyhood or Wendy and Lucy; Llewyn (prefer No Country) or In Jackson Heights (prefer At Berkeley) after that. Zodiac ahead of all of them.

at least they sort of admit they fucked up their Coens choice

For all of its adherence to the traditional Pixar "journey" plot, Inside Out made me cry way more than any other movie of the century.

For what its worth, I haven't seen:

The Death of Mr. Lazarescu
Summer Hours
In Jackson Heights
l'Enfant
White Material
The Gleaners and I
Mad Max: Fury Road
Wendy and Lucy

And as far as I can recall, I don't think I've even heard of:

A Touch of Sin
Timbuktu
Three Times

Of the former list, some are things I've kept vaguely meaning to see and others are ones I just don't care about. Feel free to correct me on anything that my life is lesser for not having seen from either list, though (as long as it isn't Mad Max).

Your life is poorer for not having seen Summer Hours, In Jackson Heights, and The Gleaners and I.

haven't seen them all, but had to go with The Gleaners and I, which is just so outstanding

3. Million Dollar Baby

Still taking this in.

Isn't AO Scott a notorious Eastwood fanboy?

Can't decide between TWBB, Yi Yi, Spirited Away.

If you're above considering mad max then lol enjoy your supercereal worthiness

I'm not "above" Mad Max, I'm just not interested in it.

If it'll make me appear like less of a stick in the mud, I've picked up the DVD of White Material a couple of times at the library, read the back, and went "nah, looks boring."

I can't describe your taste, I'll say that for ya.

White Material has some eye candy.

A Touch of Sin, Boyhood or Eternal Sunshine are all excellent, but my favourite five movies of the century are all not there. "I'm Not There" is there instead.

Still very much opposed to the weird consensus that mawkish Pixar films are now to be considered great art.

Inside out is steaming garbage. Shakes otm. Yi Yi for the win.

they also got a bizarre selection of "notable filmmakers" to pick

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/09/movies/directors-favorite-movies.html

I'm generally fairly positive about Paul Feig, but that list... Moulin Rouge? Deadpool? Casino Royale? Love Actually?

I'm Not There is a pretty easy choice for me, I haven't seen it since it came out but the others I'd consider voting for are probably worse than I remember (There Will Be Blood & Eternal Sunshine).

Moonlight is officially overrated btw

Pick the two of the 25 I have not seen.

Went with Boyhood; mind you, I've only seen a few of these.

Why the eff is "The 40 Year Old Virgin" on this list?

That's the kind of early 21st century comedy where I look back at it and can say "you know, like five or six of the scenes extraneous to the main plot were brilliant, why couldn't these scenes have BEEN the movie?"

outside of "Spirited Away", which is a masterpiece this list fucking sucks

There Will Be Blood was decent. the level of praise it gets is astounding.

well Mad Max and Eternal Sunshine was cool, havent seen most of these tbh, the ones i have were entirely forgettable

i saw There Will Be Blood twice in the theaters and a couple other times at home, don't think since 2009 though. the ending is amazing - specifically the last shot, the last line, and blaring Brahms before cutting to credits. A movie can get away with a lot of problems in the middle if you've got a great opening and a great ending. Just remembered that the first hour has almost no dialogue.

A movie can get away with a lot of problems in the middle if you've got a great opening and a great ending.

I want to say that about Out 1, but I don't really remember the opening.

Yeah, Adam, a list with popcorn fare like Summer Hours, In Jackson Heights, and The Gleaners and I fucking sucks.

i hated the last 20 minutes of Blood with the fire of a thousand suns. It would not have taken me that long to off that sniveler.

I love music. I hate movies.

*updates mrsnrub.ppt* think i'm gonna use the stick guy with a lightbulb over his head for this one

lol @ combination of "this list fucking sucks" and "havent seen most of these tbh"

and that right there is your internet, folks

PTA's last two films are better >>>> TWBB

A movie can get away with a lot of problems in the middle if you've got a great opening and a great ending.

didn't save melancholia

Looking at the list again I'm mostly just grateful they didn't shoehorn some superhero garbage in.

I like most of the ones I've seen but I don't think I'd put anything but the top two on a list of my favorite films of the century.

Ha, was literally just about to ask where the Marvel movies were.

where is Kung Fu Hustle? that'd be the kind of 'populism' that wdn't make me puke

anyhoo the way this intro is written makes it 100% unclear if Times readers on FB chose part of the list.

There's only one movie on here that if someone told me they hadn't seen it I'd tell them "You really gotta see it", and that's "Spirited Away". There's about 10 others I consider pretty good, and one I didn't like much at all ("I'm Not There"). The rest I haven't seen. Lots of good choices on the 6 directors' lists in the linked article. The list definitely should have had more comedy on it.

If you haven't seen the rest, how do you know you wouldn't have laughed?

Spirited Away. Is bad and pointless and boring. I think Boyhood is the film I like most of these. I left the cinem halfway through Yiyi, I know that's terrible but I didn't care about it. I care a lot more about Museum Hours and Children of Men than I do with anything here.

Wendy and Lucy isn't good. It's so fake.

(xp to Alfred) That Mr Lazarescu one looks like it might have been funny in a weird way, but unless those Clint Eastwood and Claire Denis films are very uncharacteristic, I doubt they are very amusing. I would have liked to see a lot more obvious comedy though - stuff like "Borat", "The Hangover", "Grand Budapest Hotel", "Napoleon Dynamite", "The Trip", "Shaun of the Dead" - as well as comedy-dramas like "The Squid and the Whale", "Happy Go Lucky", "Happy Christmas", "Rachel Getting Married", "Please Give", etc.. - any of which I would put on a list like this.

It's stupid that Mulholland Drive isn't on the List though.

For non-comedies I think should be here: "The Wrestler", "Grizzly Man", and "Tree of Life" come to mind.

35 shots of rum / 35 Rhums is so much better than The White 'Material though #Claire Denis Stan.

Tree of Life not being on there is stupid.

list is missing Synecdoche, New York and Mulholland Drive

let's keep an ongoing list of movies that are missing from this arbitrary list that david brooks tooted out his butt

1. Josie and the Pussycats (2001)

Zoolander

Spirited Away. Is bad and pointless and boring. I think Boyhood is the film I like most of these. I left the cinem halfway through Yiyi, I know that's terrible but I didn't care about it. I care a lot more about Museum Hours and Children of Men than I do with anything here.

― Heavy Doors (jed_)

now this, I gotta say, is an uncharacterizable opinion (a compliment).

a number of filmmakers rep'd by the rong film

anyone mention Josie and the Pussycats yet

Oh yeah, "Children of Men" and "The Lives Of Others" strange omissions

No Shattered Glass no cred, dad.

You Pixar haters are in good company with Armond White.

now there's a post

not a good one but

I (uncharacteristically, for me) saw Inside Out in the theater. I thought it was pretty good, but the idea that it was the 7th best film of the century so far did not occur to me.

I've seen 19 of these and maybe 3 would be on my own list. 40 Year-Old-Virgin is such a failed stab at populism. I guess they are trying to signal that they value comedy but that film's stature, such as it was, is rapidly shrinking for comedy nerds and general audiences alike.

I pick Mulholland Drive

josie and the pussycats def belongs on this list

No Shattered Glass no cred, dad.

― Sir Isaac Gluten (Old Lunch), Sunday, June 11, 2017 11:00 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

damn i havent thought about this movie since 2003 but it was great

Still Life>>>Touch of Sin

^^ agree

"Bad Santa" should have been the token comedy pick

40 Year-Old-Virgin is such a failed stab at populism

i would have gone w Superbad

Spirited Away

no Children of Men, no credibility

maybe for best videogame

Without Werckmeister Harmonies the whole thing is a sham.

Step Brothers would have been the braver (and better) comedy choice

Why not Bridesmaids in place of 40-y-o-V is the real question?

And yes, I too forgot about Shattered Glass and boy was that good

except the title

i'm sure Apichatpong Weerasethakul is properly chastened that his entire output in the last 16 years can't stand up to Apatow and George Miller.

Better luck next time!

The dumbest movies suggested for this list itt:

Zootopia
Marvel movies
The Hangover
The Wrestler
Zoolander
The Lives Of Others
Shattered Glass

Movie I honestly wish had been on this list:

Josie and the Pussycats

I like Shattered Glass but yeah it's absolutely not listworthy. And I agree with the chorus re: Inside Out. Up would be infinitely preferable as the Pixar entry. White Material is kinda a wtf pick as well

yeah, as smart people have been pointing out for years, The Lives Of Others is sentimental garbage.

Magic Mike 2 is better than at least 10 of the films listed.

agree that 35 Rhums should be the Denis choice.

I just kinda pulled Shattered Glass out of my ass (ouch!). But it is one of my personal favorites from this century. I'll swap it out with Être et avoir.

xxp it's XXL, actually, and yes ... maybe closer to 15

Trouble Every Day (2001)
Vendredi soir (2002)
L'intrus (2004)
35 rhums (2008)
White Material (2009)
Bastards (2013)

I hated L'intrus, but that's quite a run.

Nymphomaniac should be taking up the sex comedy slot

35 Rhums is the better film, but WM has Nicolas Duvauchelle.

Nymphomaniac should be taking up the sex comedy slot

I didn't hate L'intrus so much as was utterly baffled by it. Still haven't seen the vampire movie, gory-as-fuck not v appealing to me.

I'm hoping to direct Magic Mike: Magnum.

starring Tom Selleck as the crusty but benign strip club owner

Mr. Lazarescu is a didactic bore iirc

If there is one great American comedy of the century besides Eternal Sunshine it might be Fantastic Mr. Fox.

I'll add Frances Ha and Damsels in Distress.

yeah DiD is a riot

Ghost World
Wet Hot American Summer
Shallow Hal
the Jackass trilogy
A Serious Man
Fantastic Mr. Fox
I Love You, Phillip Morris
Inherent Vice

Not saying they deserved to be on the list, just saying they're great American comedies.

for a romanian movie about the health care system i'd have gone with 4 Months, 3 Weeks & 2 Days.

hmmm, "great" has to be at least in Preston Sturges' ballpark for me

xp

xp Lazarescu has more laughs tbh.

Yeah, yeah, comedy is dying out with the silent generation, et al.

i like I Love You, Phillip Morris and Inherent Vice plenty, but can't put "great" in front of them.

I couldn't bring myself to watch a Jack Black-Gwyneth Paltrow vehicle. I'm sure it makes Lubitsch look like a piker.

MacGruber

Yes.

No

cinema, boys, not SNL movies

You're gonna have to break that one down for me, doc.

cinema, boys >>> SNL movies

Glenn Kenny had a go

For sport, here's my whack at a 25 films of the 21st: pic.twitter.com/IYjmI9rD6v

— Glenn Kenny (@Glenn__Kenny) June 11, 2017

btw don't miss that new Bill Morrison doc -- helluva story

what a card

predictably i think these lists suffer from a lack of verhoeven, mostly black book

tom

lol brad I almost mentioned that but I felt it would be too aggressively on-brand

"Too on-brand" would've been Soto sayaing "list suffers from lack of Bryan Ferry hair"

I agree with more of those than the Times list, but I'd swap in Haywire for Che.

Haywire for Che was amazing, it's true.

The dumbest movies suggested for this list itt:

Zootopia
Marvel movies
The Hangover
The Wrestler
Zoolander

― insidious assymetrical weapons (Eric H.), Monday, June 12, 2017 10:54 AM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I'll add Frances Ha and Damsels in Distress.

― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, June 12, 2017 11:13 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah DiD is a riot

― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Monday, June 12, 2017 11:13 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

🤔

lol holy shit sorry simon & eric i got my H's mixed up

Its not a bad list as these things go and enjoying the clueless comments from fucking anime fans.

These are all great.

4. A Touch of Sin
5. The Death of Mr. Lazarescu
6. Yi Yi
9. Summer Hours
12. Timbuktu
17. Three Times
18. The Gleaners and I
22. I'm Not There

Went for Yi Yi. This century has peaked early.

fucking anime fans

Is that what Glenn K is going on about in that tweet? A mindset in which Spirited Away isn't thought of as at or near the top of its particular form is too insular for me.

spirited away owns, though it's not the best miyazaki. still voted Mad Max.

Anime has a terrible history. I wouldn't big up if I was you.

How anime was invented pic.twitter.com/P1igdswiCz

— Pixelated Boat (@pixelatedboat) April 11, 2017

lol

Kung fu hustle and inherent vice def worthy picks

Worthy contenders yet unmentioned itt:

Syndromes and a Century
Stray Dogs
Still Walking

some past discussions

Decadetrius of the Oughties: the thread for critical lists/musings of the best films of the 2000s
The (Now-Overrated) ILX Top 100 Films of the 2000s Poll Results
ILX TOP 100 FILMS OF THE 2000s BALLOTS
Worst Film of the top 50 of the "ILX Top 100 Films of the 2000s Poll" Poll
thedissolve.com top 50 films of 2010-14

Alien from L.A. was robbed

I've gotten halfway thru a 25 list and the bottom half is giving me fits.

01. Inland Empire (David Lynch, 2006)
02. The Tree of Life (Terrence Malick, 2011)
03. Dogville (Lars Von Trier, 2003)
04. War of the Worlds/Munich (Steven Spielberg, 2005)
05. Light is Calling (Bill Morrison, 2004)
06. Tropical Malady (Apichatpong Weerasethakul, 2004)
07. Pulse (Kiyoshi Kurosawa, 2001)
08. Certified Copy (Abbas Kiarostami, 2010)
09. Yi Yi (Edward Yang, 2000)
10. Inside (Alexandre Bustillo & Julien Maury, 2007)
11. Everything Will Be OK (Don Hertzfeldt, 2006)
12. Spring Breakers (Harmony Korine, 2012)
13. Femme Fatale (Brian De Palma, 2002)
14. Stranger by the Lake (Alain Guiraudie, 2013)
15. Miami Vice (Michael Mann, 2006)
16. Tetro (Francis Ford Coppola, 2009)
17. A Serious Man (Joel & Ethan Coen, 2009)
18. Under the Skin (Jonathan Glazer, 2013)
19. Gerry (Gus Van Sant, 2002)
20. Irréversible (Gaspar Noé, 2002)
21. The Heart of the World (Guy Maddin, 2000)
22. Kings and Queen (Arnaud Desplechin, 2004)
23. A Separation (Asghar Farhadi, 2011)
24. Goodbye, Dragon Inn (Tsai Ming-Liang, 2003)
25. Crimson Gold (Jafar Panahi, 2003)

10. Inside (Alexandre Bustillo & Julien Maury, 2007)
13. Femme Fatale (Brian De Palma, 2002)
15. Miami Vice (Michael Mann, 2006)
22. Kings and Queen (Arnaud Desplechin, 2004)
24. Goodbye, Dragon Inn (Tsai Ming-Liang, 2003)

https://az616578.vo.msecnd.net/files/2016/08/23/6360758894702168281669722404_6359608418905611101069352914_ad19.gif

Alfred?

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/ei-2xTsyL8w/hqdefault.jpg

11. Everything Will Be OK (Don Hertzfeldt, 2006)

yes to this

War of the Worlds is an insane choice. I'll grant that the first half is among the best work that Spielberg has ever done (challops!) but the second half pretty much completely undoes that.

Either way, I really should finally watch War of the Worlds, huh?

how did Mulholland Dr not work on you, E?

oh my god, yes. War of the Worlds is amazing. it's Spielberg's best movie. the first hour is just incredible, i saw it twice when it came out and i started crying when Dakota Fanning was freaking out and screaming "is it the terrorists???" 9/11 was less than 4 years prior - captured that apocalyptic feeling without addressing the event itself (i can't watch any 9/11 fiction, it makes me too sad and angry. i'm avoiding reading about that awful 9/11 musical that won a bunch of Tony's the other day).

xp oh it's one-per-director

What Eastwood is to AO Scott, evidently Spielberg is to me

I'll admit, I now really want to go home and watch WotW and shut it off the moment before Tim Robbins appears onscreen. Such a magnificent short film.

What Eastwood is to AO Scott, evidently Spielberg is to me

wow "nobody cares" has a surprisingly large reach

War of the Worlds is an insane choice

a strange declaration when he picked Dogville and Irreversible

nothing wrong w/ Tim Robbins scene

Alfred?

https://media.giphy.com/media/s6sjzNBWsFs6A/giphy.gif

TBF, I almost immediately backpedaled on the declaration of insanity.

The Heart of the World (Guy Maddin, 2000)

if mixing shorts and features, i'd pick this and Saddest Music in the World

Yeah, I will never not include shorts. My favorite movie ever is a short. They're eligible by my estimation.

that Zod gif is really the gif that keeps on uh gifing

well i consider La Jetee 'medium length' -- it's several times longer than THotW.

The New York Times 25th Hour is the Best Movies of the Century

i made my own perverse list but didn't hit 25

Perverse?!

Includes Fist Festival 27.

lol i guess i just meant "perverse" as a disclaimer for it being very me

1. southland tales
2. speed racer
3. magic mike xxl
4. bring it on
5. zodiac
6. black book
7. josie and the pussycats
8. universal soldier: day of reckoning
9. in the mood for love
10. the invitation
11. jennifer's body
12. the guest
13. detention
14. fast five
15. john wick
16. cemetery of splendor
17. one of the satoshi kon movies idk
19. mad max: fury road
20. for a good time, call...
21. final destination 5

ran out of movies here

i think you ran out at #1!

true most of those don't qualify as movies

i paid full price to see Southland Tales at the Loews on 19th St and i'm still pissed off about it.

:D

i am shocked that the numbing Her was not named by Eric

what would he have named it?

Her, Alfred. Named her!

That's a good name!

1. Synecdoche, New York (2008)
2. Mulholland Drive (2001)
3. I'm Still Here (2010)
4. Kill Bill (2003/2004)
5. Dancer in the Dark (2000)
6. Zoolander (2001)
7. Carol (2015)
8. Midnight in Paris (2011)
9. Certain Women (2016)
10. Broken Flowers (2005)
11. Personal Shopper (2016)
12. Freddy Got Fingered (2001)
13. Silence (2016)
14. Punch-Drunk Love (2002)
14. Elephant (2003)
15. I'm Not There (2007)
16. Children of Men (2006)
17. Wet Hot American Summer (2001)
18. There Will Be Blood (2007)
19. Tangerine (2015)
20. Dude, Where's My Car? (2000)
21. Get Out (2017)
22. The Clearing (2004)
23. Get Him to the Greek (2010)
24. War of the Worlds (2005)
25. Sausage Party (2016)

most baffled by the clearing, flappy

a lot of non-English films too

Now that I've made one, might as well share it:

1. Inland Empire (Lynch, 2006)
2. The Turin Horse (Tarr, 2011)
3. Syndromes and a Century (Weerasethakul, 2006)
4. A Serious Man (Coens, 2009)
5. Synecdoche, New York (Kaufman, 2008)
6. 35 Rhums (Denis, 2008)
7. Love Exposure (Sono, 2008)
8. Stray Dogs (Tsai, 2013)
9. A Touch of Sin (Jia, 2013)
10. You, the Living (Andersson, 2007)
11. Russian Ark (Sokorov, 2002)
12. The Life Aquatic (Anderson, 2004)
13. 2046 (Wong, 2004)
14. Post Tenebras Lux (Reygadas, 2012)
15. Trance (Villaverde, 2006)
16. The Tulse Luper Suitcases (Greenaway, 2003-4)
17. Children of Men (Cuaron, 2006)
18. Speed Racer (Wachowskis, 2008)
19. Holy Motors (Carax, 2012)
20. Two-Legged Horse (Makhmalbaf, 2008)
21. Enter the Void (Noé, 2009)
22. The Gleaners & I (Varda, 2000)
23. Laurence Anyways (Dolan, 2012)
24. The Tree of Life (Malick, 2011)
25. American Honey (Arnold, 2016)

good list

I'll finish my chiseled list tomorrow. Here's a list I made for movies between 2010 and 2016.

most baffled by the clearing, flappy

― johnny crunch, Tuesday, June 13, 2017 8:10 PM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I haven't seen it since it came out and that final scene where William H. Macy gets found out at the grocery store with a counterfeit $100 bill has stayed in my mind ever since. I remember it had a really unusual and unsettling atmosphere and something about that final scene has haunted me. So I just looked up the movie and apparently I conflated William H. Macy's character in Fargo with Willem Dafoe, who's actually in The Clearing. whoops.

I did my list sorta off the top of my head, although top 10 is solid. I'm sure I'll remember something I forgot tomorrow.

BradNelson's list is basically perfect.

Gaspar No-way

fuck i forgot A Mighty Wind

AND Best in Show

Any love for '00s Almodovar? "Bad Education" likely my #1.

I love Bad Education! Should have been on my list for sure.

Volver would be my pick for his best 21st century film but it won't be on my list.

Pavlovian listicle-making, tsk tsk

Would love to see Pavlov's list tbh

I don't have the wherewithal to go whole hog, but my revolving top four are this century's two Lynch joints, The Tree of Life, and Être et avoir. At least one of Altman's latter-day efforts would make it into my top 25.

Do I still get a treat?

The treat is Morbs coming to your place to recite baseball stats.

Bad Education and Talk To Her both. Almodovar and Haynes have a similar career trajectory from my standpoint, tho Haynes has yet to make an I'm So Excited.

xp treat or trick?

No Bruno Dumont, no treats.

At least one of Altman's latter-day efforts would make it into my top 25.

The Company was one of my last-minute cuts.

Gorgeous, wonderful movie, so astoundingly underrated.

Really, everything he did following my dn's namesake was top notch (although I might need to see Tanner on Tanner again to be sure).

Here's my list. No room for an Altman, unfortunately, although The Company would be my 21st century pick.

How many lists have you done in the last month, Alfred?

Certified Copy aside, 2010 was maybe the worst year for movies in my natural life.

I usually write a list a day with my morning smoothie.

2002 wasn't awesome either, I noticed.

No way, I loved 2002:

https://cansesclasseled.wordpress.com/favorite-films-by-year/

We share many of those films but I'm not passionate about'em, if that makes sense (it doesn't have to).

(Plus, I think a lot of them were 2003 in the U.S.)

NYT list reads like a clap back against vulgar auteurism on second glance.

If only all your mania for listmaking could be channeled into advocacy for preferential voting.

Remind me, in brief, what "vulgar auteurism" is. Worshipping trash, right?

In a nutshell, preferring Paul W.S. Anderson to Paul Thomas Anderson.

If only all your mania for listmaking could be channeled into advocacy for preferential voting.

― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius),

what makes you think it isn't?

My capacity for preferential ranking is universal.

top five worst Jake Gyllenhaal haircuts – go

I can't do these over a morning smoothie. I need time to carefully consider. But ...

1. Bubble Boy

2. that boxing movie where he was ripped like a roid queen

There's nothing vulgar about preferring anyone over Paul Thomas Andersson. And 2010 is the year of Uncle Boonmee, Aurora, Mysteries of Lisbon, Film Socialisme. Nothing wrong with that.

re: Almodovar - I loved his most recent one Julieta, and Broken Embraces.

Loved Broken Embraces as well.

1. Zodiac
2. No Country for Old Men
3. No Direction Home: Bob Dylan
4. The Heart of the Game
5. The Squid and the Whale
6. Elephant
7. Spellbound
8. Lost in Translation
9. The Social Network
10. You Can Count on Me
11. Carlos
12. The Perks of Being a Wallflower
13. Wendy and Lucy
14. Boyhood
15. Best of Enemies
16. O.J. Simpson: Made in America
17. At Berkeley
18. School of Rock
19. Ghost World
20. Angels in America

I liked almost all of these immediately; #12 and #18 grew on me more slowly. Except for At Berkeley, I’ve seen all them anywhere from twice to a ridiculous number of viewings for the top two.

I loved Perks of Being a Wallflower, although still baffled that those kids wouldn't know who was singing "'Heroes.'"

Yeah, I wrote about that. It's so egregious, I've come to find it more funny than annoying, and them not knowing is used really well as a dramatic device, if you can buy it. And again, I could maybe accept that they don't know "Heroes"--highly unlikely, but possible. Not knowing "Heroes" while you are swapping tapes with the Shaggs and Nick Drake on there, that I find literally impossible.

No Direction Home: Bob Dylan

No place on my list.

O.J. is a (slightly) above-avg ESPN TV series.

ah shit i forgot One Hour Photo, too.

I didn't realize Decasia was 2002. Put it on your list or go home.

On my 2002 list.

I feel like LEGO Batman might have been a better choice if they had to have a token cartoon that makes people cry.
The LEGO Movie itself is probably better than a few of these choices though.

nah the token "cartoon that made people cry" was Up in 2009. just that first sequence. I think after that Pixar thought they had to do it with every movie. I never saw Toy Story 3 bc the reactions were just ridiculous - "oh my god, i couldn't stop crying, it was so sad and wistful and melancholic!" God, sounds horrible.

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

got Mad Max from library and couldn't sit thru more than 25 mins of it. I like the original!

The results of this poll should go on the ILX homepage as a warning to newcomers.

Counter-point.

6. Yi Yi	13
3. Million Dollar Baby	0

Not to mention four votes for Summer Hours and two for an Agnes Varda flick.

i wonder how many other Yang films the typical Yi Yi voter has seen -- you know, the ones you have to see twice to comprehend what's going on

or you know –  the major one only made available domestically until last year.

this is where KJB wd sigh heavily and not mention downloads

and where i wd advise you to live in the right city

I saw Mahjong and A Brighter Summer Day on shitty YouTube uploads several years ago, but I care about these things.

I wonder how many other Yang films were made in this century? Oh, none? Is it none? Oh, OK then.

I never said otherwise, but you're probably lightheaded from your most recent Showgirls viewing.

fuuuuuuuuuuuuuck alllllllllll liiiiiiiiiiiists

If by lightheaded you mean giddy, exhilarated, reveling in the pleasure that movies can give you if you enjoy either life or movies? Sure. Yeah.

Or cocktails.

Byron couldn't have said it more graciously.

Stuart Byron or Byron Buxton?

https://www.google.com/search?q=screaming+lord+byron&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjaz_rFj4TVAhXD6CYKHTbPCnkQ_AUICigB&biw=1570&bih=838#imgrc=K2TsLxPS6Q08lM:

Screaming Lord Byron

https://media1.giphy.com/media/uiB82DOQjJTbO/200_s.gif

(Yi Yi wasn't made in this century either)