Dud
― The times they are a changing, perhaps (map), Thursday, 22 June 2017 17:07 (six years ago) link
good luck donald trump
― imago, Thursday, 22 June 2017 17:07 (six years ago) link
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/05/25/00/3F63A16C00000578-0-image-m-28_1495670132247.jpg
― scott seward, Thursday, 22 June 2017 17:09 (six years ago) link
https://plus.google.com/104275426491742090609
― Duncan Disorderly (Tom D.), Thursday, 22 June 2017 17:10 (six years ago) link
Ten-year-old nabisco offTM:
Here's something funny: when I was ten years old I had a vague admiration for Donald Trump and Lee Iacocca (both very feted at the time) and a downright intense love of Alex P. Keaton from Family Ties, who I didn't understand to be something of a joke. As such, despite having really liked Mondale -- having a woman as a running mate impressed me, probably because of the mother/father dynamic of it -- I was convinced that I wanted to be a Republican and a businessman or lawyer of some sort. In fact, I started a "company" with my friends Brian and Jeff -- we made board games, and hired Tony, the best breakdancer I have ever known, to do the art -- and I was constantly attempting to read the law and economics books in my father's library. Everyone seemed to think this was "cute," though I sort of wish someone had just explained politics to me. In either case, I got over it quickly and went back to wanting to be a writer....― nabisco (nabisco), Saturday, June 14, 2003 1:28 PM (fourteen years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
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― nabisco (nabisco), Saturday, June 14, 2003 1:28 PM (fourteen years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― I Love It When They Call Me Big Pharma (Old Lunch), Thursday, 22 June 2017 17:12 (six years ago) link
https://mesacountydemocrats.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/Eric-Trump.jpg
― scott seward, Thursday, 22 June 2017 17:20 (six years ago) link
i suppose 'classic' in that he's all a lot of people can think about or talk about and his brain dmamage is so powerful it's infected the world
p bad president and person tho
― global tetrahedron, Thursday, 22 June 2017 17:45 (six years ago) link
takes balls to rock that combover day in and out
― reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 22 June 2017 17:47 (six years ago) link
I can see the blood from the man-flesh on his teeth!
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 22 June 2017 17:48 (six years ago) link
What you lookin' at?You all a bunch of fuckin' assholes. You know why? You don't have the guts to be what you wanna be?You need people like me. You need people like me so you can point your fuckin' fingers and say,"That's the bad guy." So... what that make you? Good? You're not good.You just know how to hide, how to lie. Me, I don't have that problem. Me, I always tell the truth. Even when I lie.So say good night to the bad guy!Come on. The last time you gonna see a bad guy like this again, let me tell you.Come on. Make way for the bad guy. There's a bad guy comin' through! Better get outta his way!
― sleepingbag, Thursday, 22 June 2017 17:49 (six years ago) link
You certainly don't, pal, 'cause the good news is - you're fired. The bad news is - you've got, all of you've got just one week to regain your jobs starting with tonight. Starting with tonight's sit. Oh? Have I got your attention now? Good. 'Cause we're adding a little something to this month's sales contest. As you all know, first prize is a Cadillac Eldorado. Anyone wanna see second prize? Second prize is a set of steak knives. Third prize is you're fired. Get the picture? You laughing now? You got leads. Mitch and Murray paid good money, get their names to sell them; you can't close the leads you're given, you can't close shit. You ARE shit! Hit the bricks, pal, and beat it 'cause you are going OUT!
― reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 22 June 2017 17:55 (six years ago) link
Search: "move on her like a bitch"
Destroy: everything else
― flappy bird, Thursday, 22 June 2017 17:56 (six years ago) link
"Trump never said he had tapes, he just inferred that he did. And it is not intimidating a witness since Comey is telling the truth and knew that any tapes would prove his version of events."
― reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 22 June 2017 18:03 (six years ago) link
everyone is classic but not everyone should be president
― Dean of the University (Latham Green), Thursday, 22 June 2017 18:05 (six years ago) link
President Don once had a dreamThe world held his hand, gave their pledgeSo he told them his scheme for a savior machine
― reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 22 June 2017 19:09 (six years ago) link
Trump lingered last in line for brainsAnd the one he got was sorta rotten and insaneSmall hands (so sad!), a rust-hued clownIs Trump fast asleep or rockin' out with Three Doors Down?
― you yourself have seen plenty bananas in your life (Old Lunch), Thursday, 22 June 2017 19:25 (six years ago) link
Murricuns electing Donald Trump: Classic or dud?
http://static6.businessinsider.com/image/55918b77ecad04a3465a0a63/nbc-fires-donald-trump-after-he-calls-mexicans-rapists-and-drug-runners.jpg
― Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 22 June 2017 19:28 (six years ago) link
haven't thought about this guy for a while. i think he was popular in the 80s?
― Treeship, Thursday, 22 June 2017 19:50 (six years ago) link
Overrated
― jmm, Thursday, 22 June 2017 20:13 (six years ago) link
I think he'd make really great hog slurry. You can really tell a lot about a man by the way his pureed corpus fills a trough.
― you yourself have seen plenty bananas in your life (Old Lunch), Thursday, 22 June 2017 20:16 (six years ago) link
red means 'run, son. numbers add up to nothin'. . .shelter me from the putin and the bankeri bankrupted casinos. who the fuck does that?
― reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 22 June 2017 22:13 (six years ago) link
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DC9_baHV0AABiyQ.jpg
― The times they are a changing, perhaps (map), Friday, 23 June 2017 01:59 (six years ago) link
#daddy
― korla pundit (crüt), Friday, 23 June 2017 02:05 (six years ago) link
#dilfsinjocks
― The times they are a changing, perhaps (map), Friday, 23 June 2017 02:22 (six years ago) link
wasting his finite reserves of energy there
― El Tomboto, Friday, 23 June 2017 02:23 (six years ago) link
Cronenbergian
― Treeship, Friday, 23 June 2017 03:16 (six years ago) link
Like a hastily-assembled meat collage.
― you yourself have seen plenty bananas in your life (Old Lunch), Friday, 23 June 2017 10:25 (six years ago) link
hard to tell who is more obsessed with him the right or the left.
also the media love/hate thing is so cute. get a room you two.
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 23 June 2017 11:09 (six years ago) link
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/9b/James_Brown_Take_a_Look_at_Those_Cakes.jpg
― total eclipse of the beefheart (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 23 June 2017 11:34 (six years ago) link
“I was the first & only potential GOP candidate to state there will be no cuts to Social Security, Medicare & Medicaid. Huckabee copied me.”
― reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 23 June 2017 11:38 (six years ago) link
He is only as wicked and hellspawned as the hatred and resentment simmering in the heartland of the most violent nation ever
― Dean of the University (Latham Green), Friday, 23 June 2017 13:50 (six years ago) link
I think you might need to look into a thing called history if you think this is the most violent nation ever.
― you yourself have seen plenty bananas in your life (Old Lunch), Friday, 23 June 2017 13:52 (six years ago) link
you suggest Panama?
― Dean of the University (Latham Green), Friday, 23 June 2017 15:43 (six years ago) link
the 1997 NYer profile of Trump is start-to-finish amazing but if I had to pick a favorite part it's this https://t.co/reqFZ79eZd pic.twitter.com/Qnwnuiyxqh— Rosie Gray (@RosieGray) June 23, 2017
― BlackIronPrison, Friday, 23 June 2017 15:44 (six years ago) link
libs/"centrists" for sure
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Friday, 23 June 2017 16:09 (six years ago) link
it's sobering to realize that Trump is probably the most famous person in human history now
― flappy bird, Friday, 23 June 2017 18:13 (six years ago) link
*not adjusted for population inflation
― flappy bird, Friday, 23 June 2017 18:14 (six years ago) link
indicative of a deep flaw in our universe
― global tetrahedron, Friday, 23 June 2017 18:19 (six years ago) link
truly he is king of the narcissist personality disorder sufferers
― officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Friday, 23 June 2017 18:24 (six years ago) link
i think jesus still beats him out unless we're only counting contemporaneous fame
― ciderpress, Friday, 23 June 2017 18:26 (six years ago) link
Michael Jackson sold a hundred million records
― frogbs, Friday, 23 June 2017 18:26 (six years ago) link
contemporaneous fame. MJ is up there but there are twice as many people on Earth now than there were in 1984.
― flappy bird, Friday, 23 June 2017 18:30 (six years ago) link
Donlad Turmp sold a hundred million and one. Sad!
― President Buttstuff (Old Lunch), Friday, 23 June 2017 18:30 (six years ago) link
Part of my problem is that I have to do a lot of things myself. It takes so much time. Julio Iglesias is coming to Mar-a-Lago, but I have to call Julio, I have to have lunch with Julio. I have Pavarotti coming. Pavarotti doesn’t perform for anybody. He’s the highest-paid performer in the world. A million dollars a performance. The hardest guy to get. If I call him, he’ll do it—for a huge amount less. Why? Because they like me, they respect me, I don’t know.
― reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 23 June 2017 20:34 (six years ago) link
idk Native American genocide plus slavery plus nuclear bomb-dropping... surely we're in the running
― Οὖτις, Friday, 23 June 2017 20:42 (six years ago) link
probably a million people killed by u.s. in vietnam/laos/cambodia. nobody will ever know how many. not pol pot numbers, but still...
mao would be the world champ though.
― scott seward, Friday, 23 June 2017 21:19 (six years ago) link
this is a ridiculous statement
― Οὖτις, Friday, 23 June 2017 21:24 (six years ago) link
Man, if only Trump would tweet that he's bigger than Jesus...
― to fly across the city and find Aerosmith's car (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 23 June 2017 21:43 (six years ago) link
well he's certainly fatter
― Οὖτις, Friday, 23 June 2017 21:48 (six years ago) link
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DDBB4IMWAAAO6sN.jpg:large
― grawlix (unperson), Friday, 23 June 2017 22:18 (six years ago) link
stahp posting this I cant handle it
― officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Friday, 23 June 2017 22:22 (six years ago) link
The relatively-youthful US has certainly done what it could to catch up with the accrued violence of much older nations, I'll grant you that. Maybe Donnie will get us there.
― President Buttstuff (Old Lunch), Friday, 23 June 2017 22:25 (six years ago) link
My god, it's made of scrote.
― President Buttstuff (Old Lunch), Friday, 23 June 2017 22:26 (six years ago) link
I feel badly for his clothes.
― President Buttstuff (Old Lunch), Friday, 23 June 2017 22:27 (six years ago) link
trump wearing a shirt with "trump" on it is like that thing where ppl wear band t-shirts to the same band's concert only 1000x worse
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Friday, 23 June 2017 22:29 (six years ago) link
If you blow the image up to its full size (not that I'm recommending you do so) the swollen, boiled-looking bullfrog neck is almost Lovecraftian.
― grawlix (unperson), Friday, 23 June 2017 22:31 (six years ago) link
dainty watch worn to make hands look bigger.
― new noise, Saturday, 24 June 2017 01:50 (six years ago) link
Is he going to be remembered as the worst thing ever? Would be deeply ironic if he just got forgotten but then people wouldn't learn from history.JUst hope his wrongness doesn't get outdone shortly after he dies painfully,choking to death on a shagpile carpet would be fitting, though too redolent of Elvis.But fingers crossed he doesn't act as a harbinger of things to come.
Just would be so funny if he went to all this bother and wasn't remembered in 20 years time.
― Stevolende, Saturday, 24 June 2017 10:15 (six years ago) link
"Sorry no parliamentary email access today - we're under cyber attack from Kim Jong Un, (Vladimir) Putin or a kid in his mom's basement or something..."
― reggie (qualmsley), Saturday, 24 June 2017 19:40 (six years ago) link
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DDF8ptxVYAQxha7.jpg
― soref, Monday, 26 June 2017 01:32 (six years ago) link
very few things gross me out as much as donald trump's watch band pic.twitter.com/mWOA8sQKi7— joe mande (@JoeMande) June 25, 2017
― j., Monday, 26 June 2017 06:10 (six years ago) link
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/06/frank-rich-nixon-trump-and-how-a-presidency-ends.html
― reggie (qualmsley), Monday, 26 June 2017 17:03 (six years ago) link
Jesus, how has he not lost his hand yet?
― President Buttstuff (Old Lunch), Monday, 26 June 2017 17:05 (six years ago) link
"Look, having nuclear - my uncle was a great professor and scientist and engineer, Dr. John Trump at MIT; good genes, very good genes, OK, very smart, the Wharton School of Finance, very good, very smart - you know, if you're a conservative Republican, if I were a liberal, if, like, OK, if I ran as a liberal Democrat, they would say I'm one of the smartest people anywhere in the world - it's true! - but when you're a conservative Republican they try - oh, do they do a number - that's why I always start off: Went to Wharton, was a good student, went there, went there, did this, built a fortune - you know I have to give my like credentials all the time, because we're a little disadvantaged - but you look at the nuclear deal, the thing that really bothers me - it would have been so easy, and it's not as important as these lives are - nuclear is powerful; my uncle explained that to me many, many years ago, the power and that was 35 years ago; he would explain the power of what's going to happen and he was right, who would have thought? - but when you look at what's going on with the four prisoners - now it used to be three, now it's four - but when it was three and even now, I would have said it's all in the messenger; fellas, and it is fellas because, you know, they don't, they haven't figured that the women are smarter right now than the men, so, you know, it's gonna take them about another 150 years - but the Persians are great negotiators, the Iranians are great negotiators, so, and they, they just killed, they just killed us."
― reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 28 June 2017 23:38 (six years ago) link
^ shows nearly doc casino level aptitude
― A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 29 June 2017 00:23 (six years ago) link
"To the career men & women at DOJ/FBI: your actions and integrity will be unfairly questioned. Be prepared, be strong. Duty. Honor. Country."
― reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 30 June 2017 22:05 (six years ago) link
saw a beer called alternative facts with a reference to it being the bigliest of IPAs :-/
― Unchanging Window (Ross), Friday, 30 June 2017 22:45 (six years ago) link
http://redcollar.ca/impeachment-and-alternative-facts-cans-join-the-red-collar-line-up/
― lettered and hapful (symsymsym), Saturday, 1 July 2017 03:36 (six years ago) link
xxxp reggie's quote, if that was a mathematical function it's be piecewise continuous but nowhere differentiable
― attention vampire (MatthewK), Saturday, 1 July 2017 07:59 (six years ago) link
Gentlemen, what you pansies are are a bunch of starving artistes who live off the kindness of the American government or mommy and daddy. You are angry at your own failings and struggle for survival, mock the GOP and ridicule its members, but when Republicans do it to the Democrats and you, you call out racism and class warfare.
You all yammer on like you do, but let me tell you this here message board is one kooky place with as many double standards as the Grand Old Party, which is why I voted TRUMP!
― The Sniper, Monday, 10 July 2017 16:20 (six years ago) link
Someone's gotten into the sock drawer again.
― Duane Quarterdump (Old Lunch), Monday, 10 July 2017 16:26 (six years ago) link
He voted Trump because of ilxor.com??
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 10 July 2017 16:26 (six years ago) link
anger at your own failings is the first step to personal responsibility, my friend
― j., Monday, 10 July 2017 16:28 (six years ago) link
This new poster seems extremely not mad. In fact, I'd venture to suggest he's actually laughing.
― The Adventures Of Whiteman (Bananaman Begins), Monday, 10 July 2017 16:33 (six years ago) link
Gentlemen, what you pansies are are a bunch of starving artistes who live off the kindness of the American government
Bitch i am ballin' atm.
― Charles "Butt" Stanton (Neanderthal), Monday, 10 July 2017 16:38 (six years ago) link
watch out guys it's a trick, you say 'but i'm doing ok' and then it's like aaaahhhh so ur an elite then and ur like curses curses damn damn damn not again
― The Adventures Of Whiteman (Bananaman Begins), Monday, 10 July 2017 16:40 (six years ago) link
O snap good lookin out.
― Charles "Butt" Stanton (Neanderthal), Monday, 10 July 2017 16:41 (six years ago) link
pew pew sniped ya
― sciatica, Monday, 10 July 2017 16:44 (six years ago) link
^ best Nas song
― Charles "Butt" Stanton (Neanderthal), Monday, 10 July 2017 16:45 (six years ago) link
source your quotes, sniper
― global tetrahedron, Monday, 10 July 2017 16:52 (six years ago) link
https://newrepublic.com/article/143586/trumps-russian-laundromat-trump-tower-luxury-high-rises-dirty-money-international-crime-syndicate
― reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 21 July 2017 12:21 (six years ago) link
1/ About that “interview” he gave to three Times reporters I have not stopped thinking. A thread to explain why. https://t.co/dCDqxnQcUT— Jay Rosen (@jayrosen_nyu) July 23, 2017
― j., Sunday, 23 July 2017 13:08 (six years ago) link
That's such a great thread.
― (crosstalk)(garbled)(crosstalk/unintelligible) (stevie), Sunday, 23 July 2017 13:34 (six years ago) link
a fun reminder
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/article127231799.html
― reggie (qualmsley), Sunday, 23 July 2017 16:31 (six years ago) link
Did the whole interview ever come out, actually?
― Frederik B, Sunday, 23 July 2017 17:50 (six years ago) link
that jay rosen thread is like watching a duckling wake up to realize mr fox isn't going to be his good buddy after all
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 23 July 2017 18:03 (six years ago) link
Not really. It's stating the obvious but the obvious continues to bear when swathes of Americans still back Trump.
You'd get better, more informed and coherent answers interviewing a monkey. But it goes to show again and again that it does not matter. Trump might as well be an actual monkey, or answer every question with a loud fart: 80+ percent of Republicans still back him.
Good luck USA etc
― Le Bateau Ivre, Sunday, 23 July 2017 18:14 (six years ago) link
*to bear repeating
― Le Bateau Ivre, Sunday, 23 July 2017 18:15 (six years ago) link
i dunno, he's like "THEY are supposed to be the grownup experts, and WE are the stenographer muses, provoking them to be their best selves! what in the world are we to do once that illusion falls apart and it becomes plain that we are only useful insofar as we further their interests?" like man - that's how it's always been
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 23 July 2017 18:18 (six years ago) link
"THEY are supposed to be the grownup experts
I didn't read it so much this way as "THEY are supposed to have some rudimentary grasp of the subjects that are absolutely central to doing their job and some definable thoughts in their heads, even if they are paper thin, and it is rather shocking that the POTUS's head is full of nothing but mush and putrid garbage."
― A is for (Aimless), Sunday, 23 July 2017 18:59 (six years ago) link
http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/what-its-like-to-get-laid-off-at-the-carrier-plant-trump-said-hed-save
― reggie (qualmsley), Sunday, 23 July 2017 23:33 (six years ago) link
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/08/the-best-quotes-from-trumps-embarrassing-wsj-interview.html
― reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 1 August 2017 23:37 (six years ago) link
poll
― Clay, Tuesday, 1 August 2017 23:44 (six years ago) link
Anyone who takes a pic of you from this angle and posts it is an enemy to you and freedom. pic.twitter.com/9nWZaDUHzK— Melanie Dione (@beauty_jackson) August 3, 2017
― j., Friday, 4 August 2017 03:21 (six years ago) link
god bless Vic Berger
― frogbs, Friday, 4 August 2017 03:30 (six years ago) link
save that shot forever
― El Tomboto, Friday, 4 August 2017 04:06 (six years ago) link
Trump's week (8/7 - 8/13/17):
✓Threatened nuclear war.✓Threatened Venezuela.✓Thanked Putin for expelling US diplomats.✓"Many sides" after neo-Nazi murder.
― reggie (qualmsley), Sunday, 13 August 2017 20:17 (six years ago) link
pretty standard week in our nightmarish new hellscape tbh
― for sale: clown shoes, never worn (bizarro gazzara), Sunday, 13 August 2017 20:20 (six years ago) link
american carnage! alright, alt-right, assemble in your muscle cars. a landscape of scapegoats is yours for the hurting
― reggie (qualmsley), Monday, 14 August 2017 18:31 (six years ago) link
Not many presidents could make threatening nuclear war the second worst thing he did in a week.— Gady Epstein (@gadyepstein) August 12, 2017
― flappy bird, Monday, 14 August 2017 18:40 (six years ago) link
Anyone on the right saying anything re:Venezuela? He couldn't have given Maduro a better gift.
― JoeStork, Monday, 14 August 2017 18:49 (six years ago) link
Empire City, a documentary film from 1985, is now streaming for rental on Vimeo.
While it was originally meant to contrast 1980s New York with the "golden age" from 1830 - 1930, it provides a rare and fascinating glimpse of the city at the very moment it shifted fully from the socially progressive era and into the Neoliberal Age of radical free-market economics.
Looking back three decades later, we can see the beginning of the glossy, greedy epoch in which we now live.
The film features the creators of today's city, from Donald Trump to Felix Rohatyn and David Rockefeller. In one scene, a young Trump stands with Mayor Ed Koch at a topping-out ceremony for yet another Midtown tower and says, "This mayor has created such a tremendous atmosphere with respect to the city of New York. Eight years ago, I must say, I was embarrassed to say I was in the real estate business in New York. Today, I can honestly say I'm proud of it."
That atmosphere was one that explicitly favored developers over everyday New Yorkers....
http://vanishingnewyork.blogspot.com/2017/08/empire-city.html
https://vimeo.com/ondemand/empirecity/164152028
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhclkwsU5CQ
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 15 August 2017 15:02 (six years ago) link
In all the clips of the dude from the era he always seems very heavily sedated. He reminds me of:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsz71luPVuE
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 15 August 2017 15:08 (six years ago) link
https://www.statnews.com/2017/08/16/donald-trump-mental-health-congress/
― reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 16 August 2017 12:21 (six years ago) link
Remember that Trump & his father were sued by the Nixon administration for racial discrimination. Trump was too racist for **Richard Nixon**— Jon Schwarz (@tinyrevolution) August 16, 2017
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 16 August 2017 15:04 (six years ago) link
plus the last time a republican was president in september the US economy barely survived
imagine donald j. trump as president on the 16th anniversary of 9/11 :)
― reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 16 August 2017 15:56 (six years ago) link
I'll say this much, there will definitely be people dancing and celebrating in the streets when he's gone.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 16 August 2017 16:16 (six years ago) link
With their mutated bodies
― Neanderthal, Wednesday, 16 August 2017 16:22 (six years ago) link
― DJI, Wednesday, 16 August 2017 17:05 (six years ago) link
dud
― j., Wednesday, 16 August 2017 17:08 (six years ago) link
I've given him a chance, but I have to conclude he is a dud
― I Love You, Fancybear (symsymsym), Wednesday, 16 August 2017 17:35 (six years ago) link
gonna go out on a limb here..... dud
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 16 August 2017 17:39 (six years ago) link
i don't want to go quickly and just make a statement for the sake of making a political statement
― for sale: clown shoes, never worn (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 16 August 2017 17:42 (six years ago) link
hey there's duds on all sides people, no need to point the finger
― Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 16 August 2017 17:52 (six years ago) link
there have been many duds in history and you never hear anyone talking about them
― I Love You, Fancybear (symsymsym), Wednesday, 16 August 2017 18:02 (six years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9c45X1PHm1g
― DJI, Wednesday, 16 August 2017 18:22 (six years ago) link
Trump abruptly ends manufacturing council after CEOs disband strategic and policy forum
You can't quit. I'm firing you first!
― tactical piñata (Sanpaku), Wednesday, 16 August 2017 18:27 (six years ago) link
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/08/16/trump-charlottesville-temper-chaos-241721
on trump's anger-as-management and his triggers
“For Trump, there came a moment where he wanted to re-establish that he was going to do what he was going to do,” said the adviser, who knows both the president and members of the staff. “He let his lawyers know that it’s his job to make decisions and their job to figure out how to implement it.”
― j., Thursday, 17 August 2017 03:02 (six years ago) link
most underrated shitty thing about Trump is how amazingly lazy he is— Adam H. Johnson (@adamjohnsonNYC) August 16, 2017
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 17 August 2017 14:16 (six years ago) link
otm. It's why I can't really see him declare war on North Korea - would bring about a ton of work - but wouldn't be surprised if he fails to raise the debt ceiling.
― Frederik B, Thursday, 17 August 2017 14:20 (six years ago) link
fake news
https://www.economist.com/news/leaders/21726696-u-turns-self-regard-and-equivocation-are-not-what-it-takes-donald-trump-has-no-grasp-what-it
― reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 17 August 2017 15:13 (six years ago) link
Mr Trump is not a white supremacist.
I beg to differ.
― Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 17 August 2017 15:22 (six years ago) link
plus the last time a republican was president in september the US economy barely survivedimagine donald j. trump as president on the 16th anniversary of 9/11 :)
Time for some more moral equivalence and re-education of the people by the big man methinks. He's a good couple of weeks to get all the key facts.
― lefal junglist platton (wtev), Thursday, 17 August 2017 15:28 (six years ago) link
"Other triggers include if someone's wearing a tie, if someone sneezes, if someone breathes "wrong" or if the sky's blue or any other color" pic.twitter.com/ZtVLzGQUsn— Jon Schwarz (@tinyrevolution) August 17, 2017
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 17 August 2017 15:38 (six years ago) link
has Trump's defence of white-nationalists this week damaged his popularity? I know that his approval ratings are terrible, but I got the impression that this was more due to the general chaos and inability to get anything done? will his comments this week alienate anyone who didn't hate him already? (I guess they damage Trump in that they force colleagues/officials/commentators etc to distance themselves from him making him more isolated, but do they play badly with voters?)
― soref, Friday, 18 August 2017 14:36 (six years ago) link
Aside from the hilarious URL the story is great: http://fortune.com/2017/08/15/donald-trump-itrump-trumpet-app/
The owner of Trump Tower, Trump Golf Links, and The Donald J. Trump Signature Collection can’t claim this one as his own: iTrump.That’s because the trademark resides with a 40-year-old-engineer and amateur musician who created an iPhone app designed to teach people how to play the trumpet. This month, Tom Scharfeld prevailed in his grueling six-year legal fight against Donald Trump. And Scharfeld’s triumph is even more impressive because he succeeded without a lawyer.Legal experts say it’s no surprise that Trump waged a fierce campaign to capture a name that he said screams DONALD TRUMP. After all, The Trump Organization has affixed the moniker to everything from real estate, vodka and golf courses to an airline, clothing and steaks. Long before Trump embarked on his run for the White House, the tycoon had sued to block upstarts from using the name, and he and his family have recently expanded their marks around the world.“When you are representing yourself, it is almost impossible to win, so coming out a winner is one of the great long shots," said Harley Lewin, a New York lawyer not involved in the case. “Even if you are bright and perhaps right on the issues, the lack of knowledge of litigation procedure almost dooms you from the start."Trump’s lawyers "didn’t seem to respect that I could do this," Scharfeld said. “We won all the claims and defeated those against us.”James Weinberger, the lawyer for Trump in the iTrump case, declined to comment.
That’s because the trademark resides with a 40-year-old-engineer and amateur musician who created an iPhone app designed to teach people how to play the trumpet. This month, Tom Scharfeld prevailed in his grueling six-year legal fight against Donald Trump. And Scharfeld’s triumph is even more impressive because he succeeded without a lawyer.
Legal experts say it’s no surprise that Trump waged a fierce campaign to capture a name that he said screams DONALD TRUMP. After all, The Trump Organization has affixed the moniker to everything from real estate, vodka and golf courses to an airline, clothing and steaks. Long before Trump embarked on his run for the White House, the tycoon had sued to block upstarts from using the name, and he and his family have recently expanded their marks around the world.
“When you are representing yourself, it is almost impossible to win, so coming out a winner is one of the great long shots," said Harley Lewin, a New York lawyer not involved in the case. “Even if you are bright and perhaps right on the issues, the lack of knowledge of litigation procedure almost dooms you from the start."
Trump’s lawyers "didn’t seem to respect that I could do this," Scharfeld said. “We won all the claims and defeated those against us.”James Weinberger, the lawyer for Trump in the iTrump case, declined to comment.
― Old Lynch's Sex Paragraph (Phil D.), Friday, 18 August 2017 15:57 (six years ago) link
Nothing on Richmond's vaunted Monument Ave. compares to Saint-Gaudens' Sherman on Grand Army Plaza, re-gilded in the 80s by Donald J. Trump. pic.twitter.com/oRUR7EhX5U— BANDZ STACKHAGE (@NickPinkerton) August 17, 2017
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Friday, 18 August 2017 19:43 (six years ago) link
they damage Trump in that they force colleagues/officials/commentators etc to distance themselves from him making him more isolated, but do they play badly with voters?
There's a substantial minority of Trump voters who will be slightly dismayed by his clumsily cloaked support for white supremacists and KKK-types, but I expect only a few of them will see it as "the straw that broke the camel's back", so that they feel they must now reject him and his presidency as racist and unacceptable. But every one of these wretched events sees some more of his backers dropping away.
He doesn't seem to ever do anything that attracts new supporters. He mostly seems to alienate them a few at a time, week after week.
― A is for (Aimless), Friday, 18 August 2017 20:57 (six years ago) link
just like banks!
― j., Friday, 18 August 2017 23:07 (six years ago) link
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yea this is important & otm
― flappy bird, Friday, 18 August 2017 23:10 (six years ago) link
Kinda like Morrissey
― Neanderthal, Friday, 18 August 2017 23:36 (six years ago) link
they certainly both have Opinions on china
― flappy bird, Saturday, 19 August 2017 00:13 (six years ago) link
Hi everyone I've thought about this....In hate to say it but I'm gonna say "dud."
― Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 19 August 2017 00:23 (six years ago) link
fp
― flappy bird, Saturday, 19 August 2017 00:23 (six years ago) link
Sorry but I just don't think he is a "cool guy" just being completely honest here
― Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 19 August 2017 00:36 (six years ago) link
name three of his albums. i'll wait
― flappy bird, Saturday, 19 August 2017 00:41 (six years ago) link
Viva...ah I see what u doing
― committee on mindset metastructure (Hunt3r), Saturday, 19 August 2017 03:16 (six years ago) link
President Trump,Ever since you became president, I had doubts about the future of this country.Everyone in my family and among my friends told me that to serve on your council would legitimize a racist administration, but I wanted to influence the policy that your administration made, so I agreed to participate.That was then; now I realize that no matter what I do, you will not change your ways, or listen to reason.After these bewildering seven months, I realize that serving any further would only stain my own reputation, without achieving anything I hoped for, so I must resign my position.Perhaps others will continue to support you and your pee tape ways; I wish you and them well.Ever yours,
― reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 24 August 2017 16:42 (six years ago) link
LOL!
― not not not not yr academy (stevie), Thursday, 24 August 2017 20:08 (six years ago) link
pic.twitter.com/OhwS2MkCla— Born Miserable (@bornmiserable) August 25, 2017
― j., Saturday, 26 August 2017 03:25 (six years ago) link
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/26/opinion/sunday/president-trump-and-the-baby-sitters-club.html?mcubz=3
― reggie (qualmsley), Sunday, 27 August 2017 11:45 (six years ago) link
a “child king,” a “self-pitying fool”
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/26/opinion/sunday/trump-our-child-king.html?mcubz=3
― reggie (qualmsley), Sunday, 27 August 2017 11:50 (six years ago) link
And this is where things get really fucked because at some point he'll realize that being a war president is the only way to get those people back.
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Sunday, 27 August 2017 12:25 (six years ago) link
i just came across this gem on facebook. imagine the bar being set lower for any human being ever pic.twitter.com/fZU6Y28yo7— Timothy Simons (@timothycsimons) August 29, 2017
― j., Tuesday, 29 August 2017 18:49 (six years ago) link
jesus
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 29 August 2017 18:58 (six years ago) link
Matt Damon throwaway answer on Trump is revealing. pic.twitter.com/d1THKaBH7k— (((tedfrank))) (@tedfrank) September 1, 2017
― j., Saturday, 2 September 2017 00:49 (six years ago) link
That's some good shit
― El Tomboto, Saturday, 2 September 2017 01:49 (six years ago) link
hoo ha!
― I am a paying customer, who is very cordial and pleasant to talk to (stevie), Saturday, 2 September 2017 22:31 (six years ago) link
As he puts on plastic gloves to serve food at NRG Stadium...President Trump turns to press and says: "My hands are too big!" pic.twitter.com/WIUTLOS4XD— Pat Ward (@WardDPatrick) September 2, 2017
― j., Sunday, 3 September 2017 00:44 (six years ago) link
No!
― the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Sunday, 3 September 2017 00:45 (six years ago) link
If he serves a peach, you must impeach
― Toblerroneous (Ye Mad Puffin), Sunday, 3 September 2017 00:46 (six years ago) link
Literally any other person this would be an endearing self deprecating thing but no... not here.
― circa1916, Sunday, 3 September 2017 00:52 (six years ago) link
gotta admit i chuckled
― crüt, Sunday, 3 September 2017 00:58 (six years ago) link
hahahaha its almost like he's not an awful terrible destructive ignorant cunt
― I am a paying customer, who is very cordial and pleasant to talk to (stevie), Sunday, 3 September 2017 18:39 (six years ago) link
next to your deeper fears we stand surrounded by four maga years
#rosneftabout
― reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 15 September 2017 22:24 (six years ago) link
make Antarctica green again?
― StanM, Saturday, 16 September 2017 00:38 (six years ago) link
Report from the ground. Holy shit people are going nuts right now ... huge line of people buying booze. Dude in the parking lot losing his shit about "n" word and more. I'm in a middle class suburb of NYC. People are going fucking bonkers. All I see is pure misery on the subway, dozens of depressed and dejected faces.
Hooray for the status quo, I guess. For anyone who thinks this is going to last, I've got another story to tell you.
― carpet_kaiser, Saturday, 16 September 2017 00:56 (six years ago) link
Man, a few months ago I heard a kid say, "why does everyone look so sad?" For those who defend the status quo, how do you support this? Clinton is no different here in this.
― carpet_kaiser, Saturday, 16 September 2017 01:05 (six years ago) link
[on the NYC subway]
If you're looking for a silver lining to the Trump phenomenon, this might be it. Our crazy president, if nothing else, has had a clarifying effect on American politics. He may make the Democratic Party desperate enough to return to power that it will actually have to start picking voters over donors when it comes time to choose which policy approaches to endorse. Which might mean embracing policies that would actually excite people for a change.
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/features/taibbi-single-payer-effort-shows-life-post-trump-may-not-suck-w503498
― reggie (qualmsley), Sunday, 17 September 2017 18:48 (six years ago) link
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/11/03/mary-macleod-trump-donald-trump-mother-biography-mom-immigrant-scotland-215779
Many of the array of psychologists, psychiatrists and family therapists I talked to for this story have a question Mary Trump actually once asked herself, at a moment when she was feeling something less than pride in her celebrity son.This was in 1990. Donald Trump was divorcing his first wife, philandering with the model Marla Maples and floundering in hundreds of millions of dollars in debt, facing high-profile humiliation and ruin in his early 40s. Mary Trump, on the other hand, was approaching 80. Once a poor immigrant from the remote, desolate northwest corner of Scotland, and the product of the strict mores of the country’s Presbyterian Church, she had been married to the business-centric Fred Trump for more than half a century, residing with him and their five children and their live-in in a large, red-brick, white-columned house positioned regally atop a grassy hill. She had worked tirelessly, volunteering at a local hospital, staying active at schools, charities and social clubs, and steering her rose-colored Rolls-Royce to the family’s outer-borough apartment buildings to collect coins from the laundry machines. She and her husband had sent their fourth and most incorrigible child, who as a boy threw cake at kids at parties and erasers at his teachers at his private elementary school, first to Sunday morning Bible classes, like his siblings—and then, unlike his siblings, to a stringent military academy an hour and a half upstate shortly after he turned 13. Now, in the twilight of her life, beset with debilitating bone loss, she was being sucked into his tawdry, nonstop soap opera, rendered a bit player in a media frenzy, captured by paparazzi while sitting in the rear of her chauffeured car, looking steely and peeved.That year, according to Vanity Fair, Mary Trump asked Ivana Trump, her soon-to-be-ex-daughter-in-law, a pointed question. “What kind of son have I created?”
This was in 1990. Donald Trump was divorcing his first wife, philandering with the model Marla Maples and floundering in hundreds of millions of dollars in debt, facing high-profile humiliation and ruin in his early 40s. Mary Trump, on the other hand, was approaching 80. Once a poor immigrant from the remote, desolate northwest corner of Scotland, and the product of the strict mores of the country’s Presbyterian Church, she had been married to the business-centric Fred Trump for more than half a century, residing with him and their five children and their live-in in a large, red-brick, white-columned house positioned regally atop a grassy hill. She had worked tirelessly, volunteering at a local hospital, staying active at schools, charities and social clubs, and steering her rose-colored Rolls-Royce to the family’s outer-borough apartment buildings to collect coins from the laundry machines. She and her husband had sent their fourth and most incorrigible child, who as a boy threw cake at kids at parties and erasers at his teachers at his private elementary school, first to Sunday morning Bible classes, like his siblings—and then, unlike his siblings, to a stringent military academy an hour and a half upstate shortly after he turned 13. Now, in the twilight of her life, beset with debilitating bone loss, she was being sucked into his tawdry, nonstop soap opera, rendered a bit player in a media frenzy, captured by paparazzi while sitting in the rear of her chauffeured car, looking steely and peeved.
That year, according to Vanity Fair, Mary Trump asked Ivana Trump, her soon-to-be-ex-daughter-in-law, a pointed question. “What kind of son have I created?”
― j., Saturday, 4 November 2017 04:10 (six years ago) link
throwing cake and erasers
― flappy bird, Saturday, 4 November 2017 04:13 (six years ago) link
There will be courses in universities about this asshole for the next hundred years, assuming universities still exist.
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Saturday, 4 November 2017 04:34 (six years ago) link
Some people just turn out fuckin' wrong. Inexorably-broken and irredeemable because they see nothing problematic about their brokenness. Nothing but a sour and twisted mockery of humanity. You just hope people like that never get their hands on actual power, y'know?
― Vas the deferens? (Old Lunch), Saturday, 4 November 2017 05:50 (six years ago) link
they never understand their failure to love another is not the other’s failure
― estela, Saturday, 4 November 2017 05:58 (six years ago) link
what is wrong with a nation that, even through the quirks of the electoral college, sees this man worthy of such power? how can so many people see this man and not be repulsed by him, not think him unworthy of even being elected dog-catcher?
― "Taste's very strange!" (stevie), Saturday, 4 November 2017 19:01 (six years ago) link
because they're racist / sexist pieces of shit, and *hated* the black president and the thought of a chick in the white house even more than the sane among us are grossed out by destructive silver spoon slobs?
― reggie (qualmsley), Saturday, 4 November 2017 19:14 (six years ago) link
Imagine going all the way to Japan and eating a hamburger at a country club pic.twitter.com/thYetsb5K0— Josh Billinson (@jbillinson) November 5, 2017
― j., Sunday, 5 November 2017 22:39 (six years ago) link
https://www.icij.org/investigations/paradise-papers/paradise-papers-exposes-donald-trump-russia-links-and-piggy-banks-of-the-wealthiest-1-percent/
― reggie (qualmsley), Monday, 6 November 2017 01:17 (six years ago) link
the president will blow a gasket if there's no statement of exoneration by year's end
― reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 29 November 2017 03:54 (six years ago) link
why not? he blows a gasket pretty often. several times a week afaics.
― A is for (Aimless), Wednesday, 29 November 2017 04:01 (six years ago) link
maybe he'll finally have a stroke and die
― fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Friday, 1 December 2017 00:13 (six years ago) link
but then they probably still won't remove him from office
his higher brain functions died a long time ago
― hi i’m darren and i’m a bouncer from bendigo (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 1 December 2017 00:14 (six years ago) link
you don't have to live like a refu-jesus mr. potus
― reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 1 December 2017 00:26 (six years ago) link
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/12/andrew-sullivan-america-is-trapped-in-trumps-delusions.html
i know photo editors can be pretty manipulative but doesn't it seem like trump's photographed facial expressions have become consistently like this in the past couple months, like he's straining under the desperate prevarication and fabrication as he senses no one around is even paying it lip service now?
― j., Saturday, 2 December 2017 02:29 (six years ago) link
Omg pic.twitter.com/k3wJ7y3ZsM— Annie Shields (@anastasiakeeley) December 2, 2017
― j., Sunday, 3 December 2017 04:13 (six years ago) link
The parties that will be had when this fuck’s heart explodes
― circa1916, Sunday, 3 December 2017 04:48 (six years ago) link
The thought of Trump's aorta popping from one too many Big Macs has an appealing vibe of self-correction by America's excesses.
(with all due respect to the millions of decent and enlightened people in the USA)
― attention vampire (MatthewK), Sunday, 3 December 2017 06:33 (six years ago) link
naw you're right we're trash
― j., Sunday, 3 December 2017 06:46 (six years ago) link
point
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/12/03/trump-suggests-investors-who-lost-on-false-flynn-report-by-abcs-ross-should-sue.html
counterpoint
https://www.cnbc.com/2016/12/22/lockheed-martin-shares-take-another-tumble-after-trump-tweet.html
― reggie (qualmsley), Sunday, 3 December 2017 18:47 (six years ago) link
The Republican Party can no longer claim to be the party of fiscal responsibility, strong foreign policy, or family values :(
http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/trump-roy-moore-rex-tillerson-senate-tax-bill-everything-republicans-stood-for-a8091036.html
― reggie (qualmsley), Monday, 4 December 2017 21:00 (six years ago) link
Fantastic technique. This is...freeze it here. Look at this: two hands, alpha scrunch, lapping away like a dang kitty cat. He's just having fun out there. pic.twitter.com/k2I0Zkouf3— David Roth (@david_j_roth) December 18, 2017
― j., Monday, 18 December 2017 21:35 (six years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMufib-_gLs
― flappy bird, Monday, 18 December 2017 23:22 (six years ago) link
"Impatience resulted in Trump’s orange-blond hair color."
She treated her father with a degree of detachment, even irony, going so far as to make fun of his comb-over to others. She often described the mechanics behind it to friends: an absolutely clean pate — a contained island after scalp-reduction surgery — surrounded by a furry circle of hair around the sides and front, from which all ends are drawn up to meet in the center and then swept back and secured by a stiffening spray. The color, she would point out to comical effect, was from a product called Just for Men — the longer it was left on, the darker it got.
― reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 3 January 2018 21:07 (six years ago) link
I enjoyed that piece, and even went to preorder the book, but Wolff has a history of making up quotes and exaggerating, so I think I'll skip buying it. Honestly I don't care that much about Trump once he got into office - I want to read a whole book about election night, and the hours when Trump and everyone around him realized they were going to win.
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 3 January 2018 21:31 (six years ago) link
wolff's history notwithstanding, 1/2 term's pretty blistering attack on bannon suggests 1/2 term thinks wolff's on the level. apparently wolff was the tom yeats to donald and melania's francis and claire underwood? who knows though -- he could even be in on it. 1/2 term has a new excuse now -- i didn't really want to win, so why would i conspire with russia?
― reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 3 January 2018 21:43 (six years ago) link
lol "1/2 term"? is that the new "45"?
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 3 January 2018 21:52 (six years ago) link
and that's a weak excuse, and we all know he absolutely did not expect or want to win the election
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 3 January 2018 21:53 (six years ago) link
At Mar-a-Lago, just before the new year, a heavily made-up Trump failed to recognize a succession of old friends.
― reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 4 January 2018 14:18 (six years ago) link
"Jokes on them--I don't have any friends!"
― Never Learn To Mike Love (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 4 January 2018 15:37 (six years ago) link
Maybe he didn't recognize them because they were all heavily made up?
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 4 January 2018 15:42 (six years ago) link
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CqqW4i5XYAEfCHh.jpg
"Rudy? GTFO, you're not Rudy!"
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 4 January 2018 15:44 (six years ago) link
The monthly average of 171,000 jobs created in 2017 was the lowest average monthly job growth since 2010, when just 88,000 jobs were added per month.
― reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 5 January 2018 23:27 (six years ago) link
Bannon described Trump as a simple machine. The On switch was full of flattery, the Off switch full of calumny. The flattery was dripping, slavish, cast in ultimate superlatives, and entirely disconnected from reality: so-and-so was the best, the most incredible, the ne plus ultra, the eternal. The calumny was angry, bitter, resentful, ever a casting out and closing of the iron door. [...] Bannon felt - perhaps with overconfidence - that Trump could easily be switched on and off.
― reggie (qualmsley), Saturday, 6 January 2018 01:02 (six years ago) link
So they were selling this book at Penn Station and — god I’m weak.
― treeship 2, Saturday, 6 January 2018 01:18 (six years ago) link
Previous presidents, and not just Clinton, have of course lacked scruples. What was, to many of the people who knew Trump well, much more confounding was that he had managed to win the election, and arrive at this ultimate accomplishment, wholly lacking what in some obvious sense must be the main requirement of the job, what neuroscientists would call executive function. He had somehow won the race for president, but his brain seemed incapable of performing what would be essential tasks in his new job. He had no ability to plan and organize and pay attention and switch focus; he had never been able to tailor his behavior to what the goals at hand reasonably required. On the most basic level, he simply could not link cause and effect.
― reggie (qualmsley), Saturday, 6 January 2018 01:19 (six years ago) link
god I’m weak
if you're experiencing buyer's remorse, sell it to a friend for 20% off retail. they'll tell you all the 'good' parts anyway.
― A is for (Aimless), Saturday, 6 January 2018 01:20 (six years ago) link
"As [Trump] got back on Marine One to head to Andrews Air Force Base and on to JFK and then into Manhattan and Trump Tower, [after addressing the Charlottesville murder], his mood was dark and I-told-you-so. Privately, he kept trying to rationalize why someone would be a member of the KKK -- that is, they might not actually believe what the KKK believed, and the KKK probably does not believe what it used to believe, and, anyway, who really knows what the KKK believes now?"
― reggie (qualmsley), Saturday, 6 January 2018 01:58 (six years ago) link
Once, coming back on his plane with a billionaire friend who had brought along a foreign model, Trump, trying to move in on his friend’s date, urged a stop in Atlantic City. He would provide a tour of his casino. His friend assured the model that there was nothing to recommend Atlantic City. It was a place overrunby white trash.
“What is this ‘white trash’?” asked the model.
“They’re people just like me,” said Trump, “only they’re poor.”
― reggie (qualmsley), Sunday, 7 January 2018 19:08 (six years ago) link
“You know when I was young. Of course I feel young — I feel like I was 30 . . . 35 . . . 39 . . . . Somebody said, Are you young? I said, I think I’m young. I was stopping in the final months of the campaign, four stops, five stops, seven stops — speeches, speeches in front of twenty-five, thirty thousand people . . . fifteen, nineteen thousand. I feel young — I think we’re all so young. When I was young we were always winning things in this country. We’d win with trade, we’d win with wars — at a certain age I remember hearing from one of my instructors, the United States has never lost a war. And then, after that, it’s like we haven’t won anything. You know the old expression, to the victor belongs the spoils? You remember I always say, keep the oil.”
“Who should keep the oil?” asked a bewildered CIA employee, leaning over to a colleague in the back of the room.
― reggie (qualmsley), Sunday, 7 January 2018 21:01 (six years ago) link
Ultimately Trump may not be that different in his fundamental solipsism from anyone of great wealth who has lived most of his life in a highly controlled environment. But one clear difference was that he had acquired almost no formal sort of social discipline — he could not even attempt to imitate decorum. Hecould not really converse, for instance, not in the sense of sharing information, or of a balanced back-and-forth conversation. He neither particularly listened to what was said to him, nor particularly considered what he said in response (one reason he was so repetitive). Nor did he treat anyone with any sort of basic or reliable courtesy. If he wanted something, his focus might be sharp and attention lavish, but if someone wanted something from him, he tended to become irritable and quickly lost interest. He demanded you pay him attention, then decided you were weak for groveling. In a sense, he was like an instinctive, pampered, and hugely successful actor. Everybody was either a lackey who did his bidding or a high-ranking film functionary trying to coax out his attention and performance — and to do this without making him angry or petulant.
The payoff was his enthusiasm, quickness, spontaneity, and—if he departed for a moment from the nonstop focus on himself — an often incisive sense of the weaknesses of his opponents and a sense of their deepest desires. Politics was handicapped by incrementalism, of people knowing too much who were defeated by all the complexities and conflicting interests before they began. Trump, knowing little, might, Trumpers tried to believe, give a kooky new hope to the system.
― reggie (qualmsley), Sunday, 7 January 2018 22:31 (six years ago) link
1/2 term like totally used flynn as a primary russian go-between
A White House meeting that morning failed to convince Trump to fire Flynn. He was concerned about what it would look like to lose his National Security Advisor after just twenty-four days. And he was adamant about not wanting to blame Flynn for talking to the Russians, even about sanctions. In Trump’s view, condemning his adviser would connect him to a plot where there was no plot. His fury wasn’t directed toward Flynn but to the “incidental” wiretap that had surveilled him. Making clear his confidence in his adviser, Trump insisted that Flynn come to Monday’s lunch with the Canadian prime minister, Justin Trudeau.
― reggie (qualmsley), Monday, 8 January 2018 23:03 (six years ago) link
just fuck the whole thing if this nominate Oprah thing gets any traction inside the DNC
― Hadrian VIII, Monday, 8 January 2018 23:14 (six years ago) link
i worked out how much it would cost, in 2021, to give every licensed american driver the equivalent of a 2004 pontiac G6 and it came to about 9.5 trillion
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 8 January 2018 23:18 (six years ago) link
if you spread that out over two terms it's only about a trillion a year
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 8 January 2018 23:19 (six years ago) link
but what would be truly extraordinary is the number of pontiac plants we'd have, and the sheer number of people required to work in them. we would be number one in pontiac plants per square mile and unemployment would probably be a thing of the past
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 8 January 2018 23:21 (six years ago) link
Also, the taxes everyone would have to pay for getting free cars would pay for all sorts of other stuff! Downside: no one could sell their car, since everyone would have one already. The price we pay for the Pontiac Economy.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 8 January 2018 23:25 (six years ago) link
worth it imo
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 8 January 2018 23:26 (six years ago) link
Some thought him dyslexic; certainly his comprehension was limited. Others concluded that he didn’t read because he just didn’t have to, and that in fact this was one of his key attributes as a populist. He was postliterate — total television. But not only didn’t he read, he didn’t listen. He preferred to be the person talking. And he trusted his own expertise — no matter how paltry or irrelevant — more than anyone else’s. What’s more, he had an extremely short attention span, even when he thought you were worthy of attention.
it's like an alfred jarry play come to life
― reggie (qualmsley), Monday, 8 January 2018 23:27 (six years ago) link
“What is this ‘white trash’?” asked the model.“They’re people just like me,” said Trump, “only they’re poor.”
I might have to call bullshit on this quote because it betrays a gift for brutally honest self-assessment that I can't believe Trump possesses.
― Bobby Buttrock (Old Lunch), Monday, 8 January 2018 23:28 (six years ago) link
that's a younger pre-senile 2scoops
― reggie (qualmsley), Monday, 8 January 2018 23:40 (six years ago) link
He seemed to lack the ability to take in third-party information. Or maybe he lacked the interest; whichever, he seemed almost phobic about having formal demands on his attention. He stonewalled every written page and balked at every explanation. “He’s a guy who really hated school,” said Bannon. “And he’s not going to start liking it now.”
― reggie (qualmsley), Monday, 8 January 2018 23:44 (six years ago) link
When Trump walked onto the field for the national anthem, he was greeted with a chorus of boos amidst scattered cheers, and struggled to remember the words to the Star-Spangled Banner he respects so much.
hooray
― maura, Tuesday, 9 January 2018 02:56 (six years ago) link
I totallt believe the “white trash” anecdote. Trump has always been aware that he wasn’t accepted by polite society. This is why he can convincingly (to some) rail against “elites” while being a billionaire. His brand isnas much about vulgarity as it is about glamour.
― treeship 2, Tuesday, 9 January 2018 04:07 (six years ago) link
i hate his stupid fucking ugly face
it is so disgusting
― j., Sunday, 28 January 2018 02:39 (six years ago) link
Hater
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 28 January 2018 03:43 (six years ago) link
he really epitomizes the old white politician “spoiled canned ham” ideal
― maura, Sunday, 28 January 2018 03:44 (six years ago) link
you know what i find really helps is calling him donald butt instead of donald trump that way every time you talk about him you get to let ppl know that you think, that he is a butt
― sleepingbag, Sunday, 28 January 2018 03:51 (six years ago) link
But my 6 year old would do that.
I tried just saying '45' but I couldn't keep doing it.
― fajita seas, Sunday, 28 January 2018 04:10 (six years ago) link
nicknames are silly imo. he's not the first bad president, you can just refer to him by name
― k3vin k., Sunday, 28 January 2018 04:18 (six years ago) link
Difference is, his name is a brand he licenses.
― fajita seas, Sunday, 28 January 2018 04:24 (six years ago) link
i believe 'donald butt' is a good compromise and will endorse this expression
― Clay, Sunday, 28 January 2018 04:27 (six years ago) link
donnie two scoops is still the best
― maura, Sunday, 28 January 2018 05:27 (six years ago) link
no it's not, it's all stupid. playground nicknames? seriously? Trump is a virus & he's making everyone insane
― flappy bird, Sunday, 28 January 2018 23:07 (six years ago) link
ILM >>> ILE for maybe the first time since idk I first posted?
― imago, Sunday, 28 January 2018 23:10 (six years ago) link
j/k i always preferred ilm ;)
I agree that he is a virus and he's making us all insane and we should just use his name, but also I have been calling farts "trumps" from the age of 5 because that's what they are called.
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Sunday, 28 January 2018 23:15 (six years ago) link
truly, we must treat Donald Trump with the dignity he deserves
― algorithm is a dancer (katherine), Sunday, 28 January 2018 23:40 (six years ago) link
finding the nicknames stupid has nothing to do with dignity
― Simon H., Sunday, 28 January 2018 23:44 (six years ago) link
flappy bird otm. The cute albeit belittling nicknames make me cringe. It acknowledges this level of familiarity that I deeply wish I didn’t have.
― treeship 2, Sunday, 28 January 2018 23:44 (six years ago) link
This is a good use of our time
― fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Sunday, 28 January 2018 23:46 (six years ago) link
i usually call him "our president"
― difficult listening hour, Sunday, 28 January 2018 23:46 (six years ago) link
guys this is a stupid argument I didn't mean for it to be taken with deathly seriousness. glad to see everyone in usual formation, though
― k3vin k., Sunday, 28 January 2018 23:54 (six years ago) link
We need more discourse
― treeship 2, Sunday, 28 January 2018 23:57 (six years ago) link
when they invent the profanity strong enough to describe how i feel about president trump i'll use it. until then i'll stick with "president trump" or "the president of the united states".
― Arnold Schoenberg Steals (rushomancy), Monday, 29 January 2018 00:06 (six years ago) link
yeah
― flappy bird, Monday, 29 January 2018 00:11 (six years ago) link
I googled "Donald Butt" and was directed to a deviantart page that's mostly screencaps of Donald Duck's ass
― soref, Monday, 29 January 2018 00:13 (six years ago) link
<3
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 29 January 2018 00:15 (six years ago) link
^said ass
― fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Monday, 29 January 2018 01:14 (six years ago) link
we could spit on the ground like the romanians in that doubtlessly historically accurate snl sketch
― j., Monday, 29 January 2018 01:31 (six years ago) link
Trump Diary- Eric pic.twitter.com/LDNzuEbkWr— kyle Dunnigan (@kyledunnigan) January 20, 2018
― calstars, Monday, 29 January 2018 01:34 (six years ago) link
scoops²
― reggie (qualmsley), Monday, 29 January 2018 01:43 (six years ago) link
donnie two scoops isn’t a playground nickname. it’s a two bit gangster nickname, which is why it’s so appropriate.
― maura, Monday, 29 January 2018 08:50 (six years ago) link
and i usually don’t refer to him by anything except the president (i try to not use his name because of the unpleasant way it thuds into a conversation). but of all the nicknames out there (many of which are bad) the one that sounds like it would be hissed over an illegal card game is most fitting.
― maura, Monday, 29 January 2018 08:52 (six years ago) link
I am sad that there already are a bunch of Donald Dumptrucks out there.
― Yerac, Monday, 29 January 2018 09:12 (six years ago) link
― bhad and bhabie (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 29 January 2018 12:39 (six years ago) link
i call him "2 scoops". game of cards indeed. fuck the trumps -- granddad ran a brothel, dad was arrested at a KKK rally (and not for protesting!), 2 scoops and 2 scoops senior were fined for racist housing policy, and the guy inherited $200,000,000 but talks like a drunk bigot even though he's sober and "president". and that's his appeal!
― reggie (qualmsley), Monday, 29 January 2018 12:41 (six years ago) link
It's funny to remember that people on this board used to make fun of dr morbius for saying like "shillary clintDUMB" and now everybody does that shit
― very stabbable gaius (wins), Monday, 29 January 2018 12:44 (six years ago) link
You forgot his kids, qualms. Anybody follow the blow-up over Ivanka having Jose Andres kicked out of a restaurant this weekend?
― El Tomboto, Monday, 29 January 2018 12:45 (six years ago) link
fuck the trumps
― reggie (qualmsley), Monday, 29 January 2018 12:49 (six years ago) link
Tiffany's okay
― frogbs, Monday, 29 January 2018 12:49 (six years ago) link
Oh well here’s the latest. Fucking Georgetown https://edition.cnn.com/2018/01/28/politics/jose-andres-ivanka-trump-cafe-milano/index.html(cafe milano is apparently a well known safe space for Republicans in DC)
― El Tomboto, Monday, 29 January 2018 12:50 (six years ago) link
second-least-worst behind barron maybe but i dunno if i'd stretch to 'okay'
― your skeleton is ready to hatch (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 29 January 2018 13:06 (six years ago) link
2 scoops junior and i'm eric will take lil' barron elephant trunk hunting soon enough, america. rest assured :)
― reggie (qualmsley), Monday, 29 January 2018 13:11 (six years ago) link
Jose Andres is a mf'ing treasure.
― Yerac, Monday, 29 January 2018 14:07 (six years ago) link
xp yeah the odds are not great on Barron shaking out to be a decent human being. That's a pretty rough lineage, he'd have to be radicalized out of it.
― Patton Oswalt Defense Lawyer (Hadrian VIII), Monday, 29 January 2018 14:15 (six years ago) link
where's the symbionese liberation army when you need 'em
― your skeleton is ready to hatch (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 29 January 2018 14:17 (six years ago) link
I believe in Barron. He doesn’t seem that “into” being a Trump and is much closer to his mom than his dad by all reports.
― treeship 2, Monday, 29 January 2018 14:49 (six years ago) link
^barron knight
― very stabbable gaius (wins), Monday, 29 January 2018 14:51 (six years ago) link
one of my closest friends for many years was the daughter of a well-connected senior republican politician and she disagreed with just about every single thing he did so
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 29 January 2018 14:52 (six years ago) link
used to make fun of dr morbius for saying like
we always knew he was deranged, now we're just seeing when everyone loses their collective good sense under the pressure of political frustration
― j., Monday, 29 January 2018 14:55 (six years ago) link
i for one am keenly anticipating the reign of the boy-king barron from 2019-apocalypse (exact date tbc)
― your skeleton is ready to hatch (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 29 January 2018 14:56 (six years ago) link
I have probably said this before, but my childhood was replete with political spawn. Strom Thurmond's daughter was a classmate of mine, the Cheney girls were schoolmates, we were distantly aware of Tucker Quayle and the Scalia kids, yadda yadda.
Personally I would rather not speculate on them until they actually enter the arena of their own volition (as the Cheneys did and as Ivanka has done).
― Tippi Sanhedrin (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 29 January 2018 15:03 (six years ago) link
I believe in Barron. He doesn’t seem that “into” being a Trump and is much closer to his mom than his dad by all reports.― treeship 2, Monday, January 29, 2018 9:49 AM (forty minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I remain confused about this characterization of Melania Trump—that she's some beacon of goodness, must surely be decent because her husband is such an ogre. Is there something about her that leads people to believe this? She seems terrible.
― Patton Oswalt Defense Lawyer (Hadrian VIII), Monday, 29 January 2018 15:34 (six years ago) link
i suspect it's because melania cuts a pretty depressed figure as first lady, so she looks like we feel
mind you she married trump in the first place so i dunno how much sympathy she deserves
― your skeleton is ready to hatch (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 29 January 2018 15:37 (six years ago) link
Maybe she's depressed because her values are fucked up and she made some terrible choices in life. Fuck her for being complicit.
― Patton Oswalt Defense Lawyer (Hadrian VIII), Monday, 29 January 2018 15:40 (six years ago) link
I've never understood the logic either. She could divorce him and upend his whole shit if she wanted to and she'd have a ton of support from all kinds of corners, but there's no real indication she actually wants to mess with anything. xp
― Simon H., Monday, 29 January 2018 15:41 (six years ago) link
Like, you don't have to marry the American because he has a helicopter. It's not like he rescued her from some miserable life.
― Patton Oswalt Defense Lawyer (Hadrian VIII), Monday, 29 January 2018 15:43 (six years ago) link
it mainly strikes me as another hopeful but baseless fantasy of #resistance that people cling to tbh, unless there's some actual substantive statements of hers I've missed
― Simon H., Monday, 29 January 2018 15:45 (six years ago) link
honoring trump with any kind of nickname is ridiculous, you're just entering into his own game. it's silly but it's also exactly what he loves doing with anyone he doesn't like
― flappy bird, Monday, 29 January 2018 15:47 (six years ago) link
You guys should read this important piece from the progressive newspaper called the New York Times: The Quiet Radicalism of Melania Trump
― Senior Soft-Serve Tech at the Froyo Arroyo (Old Lunch), Monday, 29 January 2018 15:47 (six years ago) link
the resistance is coming from inside the white house: the first term of melania trump
― omar little, Monday, 29 January 2018 15:49 (six years ago) link
She is terrible. I don’t know how anyone could spend time with trump and then marry him. Fucking gross. The reason a lot of people try to spin her as a good person trapped in a hellhole is because the reality of trump is so far apart from our own lives that they resemble tv show characters more than real people. A tv show needs at least one sympathetic character for the audience to identify with, somewhere, and she’s the least worst option.
― Karl Malone, Monday, 29 January 2018 15:49 (six years ago) link
lord almighty that ny times piece
the quiet radicalism of doing absolutely nothing
makes u think
― your skeleton is ready to hatch (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 29 January 2018 15:50 (six years ago) link
xpost lol yeah I read yet the other day. Classic clickbait title! She is a radical because she hates her husband so much and refuses to use her position to help people or take up some sort of cause that she believes in.
― Karl Malone, Monday, 29 January 2018 15:50 (six years ago) link
none of the trumps are worth a shit. people are making the mistake of thinking that because maybe the trump marriage isn't great, that means she actually gives a fuck about the people his policies are affecting. i would say the chances of that are pretty low.
― omar little, Monday, 29 January 2018 15:52 (six years ago) link
She sees the opportunity as First Lady to try to make sure that at least ONE good thing happen during her family’s time in power, and she radically says “no”
― Karl Malone, Monday, 29 January 2018 15:52 (six years ago) link
She seems acquiescent, definitely. Complicit, maybe. Is that the same as terrible? I don't know.
In any case it is like fifty-seventh on my list of priorities right now. Is M. a basically passive person who thought she was signing up for luxury and ease, but got accidentally thrust into a media maelstrom because of her new husband's toxic cocktail of id, greed, and ambition? Or is she Lady MacTrump, urging him on to greater heights of monstrousness? Or somewhere in between?
Don't know, don't really care; I'm much more alarmed by the Trumpoid march through the agencies, like HHS sidelining women's health and refugee issues to focus on "religious liberty." With the Department of the Interior headed by an oil pipeline executive and an oil industry CEO as Secretary of State, how long until Federal employees' adherence to environmentalist causes becomes a disqualifying factor?
I know that people can walk and chew gum at the same time: we can oppose the president's horrible policies AND still find time to mock his tacky-ass household furnishings. But jeez, do we need to pick on the 10-year-old?
― claude rains down in africa (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 29 January 2018 15:53 (six years ago) link
it's like when people creepily idealize Ivanka, gee i wonder why. anyway they're all terrible.
― omar little, Monday, 29 January 2018 15:53 (six years ago) link
The nation was torn, the democracy imperiled, but she stepped bravely to the fore and presented a line of caviar-based skincare products.
― Pumpkin Soup and Mandy Patinkin (Hadrian VIII), Monday, 29 January 2018 16:02 (six years ago) link
she (melania) supported the birther campaign in the press too. vile
― maura, Monday, 29 January 2018 16:03 (six years ago) link
Is there a version of the Darwin awards for people who don't die but rather willfully maneuver themselves into a personal hell and then inexplicably choose to remain there? Because Melania would be a recipient of that award. Yes, I'm sure your life sucks. What exactly did you expect when you married and had the child of someone who has never hidden the fact that he's an irredeemably-awful person?
― Senior Soft-Serve Tech at the Froyo Arroyo (Old Lunch), Monday, 29 January 2018 16:04 (six years ago) link
Wealth without responsibility
― Karl Malone, Monday, 29 January 2018 16:06 (six years ago) link
The life of almost all other wealthy people
The Pete Rose Prize
― Pumpkin Soup and Mandy Patinkin (Hadrian VIII), Monday, 29 January 2018 16:09 (six years ago) link
who gives a shit about the kids or anyone else not in a position of power in the trump admin. ivanka is the only one with any kind of power
― flappy bird, Monday, 29 January 2018 16:14 (six years ago) link
flappy otm
― claude rains down in africa (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 29 January 2018 16:22 (six years ago) link
I don't know, the sons may be chumps but they have business interests that certainly impact the president's decision making. It's a kind of power in the administration that's worthy of concern.
― Pumpkin Soup and Mandy Patinkin (Hadrian VIII), Monday, 29 January 2018 16:27 (six years ago) link
Eric might be more pleasant if they finally remove the multiple fecaliths from intestine
― fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Monday, 29 January 2018 16:28 (six years ago) link
― Pumpkin Soup and Mandy Patinkin (Hadrian VIII), Monday, January 29, 2018 11:27 AM (twenty-seven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
sure, maybe the sons. don jr. is involved in the mueller probe in a big way. but they're effectively sidelined, by all accounts not doing much & by many accounts trump doesn't think much of them ("they were in the back of the room when god was giving out brains")
― flappy bird, Monday, 29 January 2018 16:59 (six years ago) link
Here’s an anecdote from Tina Brown’s Vanity Fair Diaries about Trump pouring a glass of wine down Marie Brenner’s back as revenge for a bad story and slinking away pic.twitter.com/Rfu1Ur1qM7— Jia Tolentino (@jiatolentino) January 31, 2018
― j., Wednesday, 31 January 2018 14:34 (six years ago) link
guessing no one watched it but Stormy Daniels on Kimmel last night was one of the weirdest interviews I've ever seen, she basically telegraphs up front "everything you read is true but I can't say a word about it"
she seems nice
― frogbs, Wednesday, 31 January 2018 20:50 (six years ago) link
sam rockwell to play her as female chuck barris
― reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 20:55 (six years ago) link
I met her once, about a decade ago, at a mutual friend's book party. She was professionally friendly. Nina Hartley was also there - she was genuinely nice.
― grawlix (unperson), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 22:21 (six years ago) link
I watched some of it. The "you might think that, I couldn't possibly comment" about how the signature on her press-release denial of the affair not actually being hers meant that the denial was not to be believed was a curious opener, but she didn't seem bright enough to make dancing around not being able to say anything else actually fun or funny.
― Haribo Hancock (sic), Thursday, 1 February 2018 01:03 (six years ago) link
The only reason anyone wants to interview her right now is because of what she's not allowed to talk about, so the whole exercise is futile and stupid in a meta pomo way. Which I guess is appropriate for the current cultural moment?
― I'm my own emotional support animal (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 1 February 2018 01:06 (six years ago) link
this isn't 'new' anymore but it is very eye-opening
A new report from Harvard Kennedy School’s Shorenstein Center on Media, Politics and Public Policy analyzes news coverage of President Trump’s first 100 days in office.
The report is based on an analysis of news reports in the print editions of The New York Times, The Wall Street Journal, and The Washington Post, the main newscasts of CBS, CNN, Fox News, and NBC, and three European news outlets (The UK’s Financial Times and BBC, and Germany’s ARD).
Findings include:
President Trump dominated media coverage in the outlets and programs analyzed, with Trump being the topic of 41 percent of all news stories—three times the amount of coverage received by previous presidents. He was also the featured speaker in nearly two-thirds of his coverage.Republican voices accounted for 80 percent of what newsmakers said about the Trump presidency, compared to only 6 percent for Democrats and 3 percent for those involved in anti-Trump protests.European reporters were more likely than American journalists to directly question Trump’s fitness for office.Trump has received unsparing coverage for most weeks of his presidency, without a single major topic where Trump’s coverage, on balance, was more positive than negative, setting a new standard for unfavorable press coverage of a president.Fox was the only news outlet in the study that came close to giving Trump positive coverage overall, however, there was variation in the tone of Fox’s coverage depending on the topic.
― maura, Thursday, 1 February 2018 13:07 (six years ago) link
Worth another look: In the Company of Men.
"Now, he's a new...breed of fuck. Like a special strain of fucker. Oh, I hate that little prissy cocksucker."
― clemenza, Friday, 2 February 2018 03:59 (six years ago) link
President Trump dominated media coverage in the outlets and programs analyzed, with Trump being the topic of 41 percent of all news stories—three times the amount of coverage received by previous presidents.That is an astonishing statistic
― Karl Malone, Friday, 2 February 2018 04:02 (six years ago) link
nsfw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHwOMWGAg_o
― reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 7 February 2018 04:06 (six years ago) link
That is an astonishing statistic
Yes. True. But we are speaking of a man who comes from an entertainment industry background where the byword is that there is no such thing as bad publicity or too much publicity. He actively courts media coverage on an hourly basis, almost to the exclusion of all else, and because he is president, he gets that coverage.
― A is for (Aimless), Wednesday, 7 February 2018 04:21 (six years ago) link
So is that clip of his "hair" real or not? I don't know any more.
― Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 7 February 2018 20:12 (six years ago) link
The concepts Reality and Truth are meaningless.
― StanM, Wednesday, 7 February 2018 21:18 (six years ago) link
also Hair
― j., Wednesday, 7 February 2018 21:43 (six years ago) link
we all died on december 21 2012 iirc
― he facked his death (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 7 February 2018 21:51 (six years ago) link
"I slept [with] you because I like you."
― reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 16 February 2018 21:51 (six years ago) link
interception: "a low-rent racist, a shameless misogynist, and an unbalanced narcissist [. . .] an unrelenting liar and a two-bit white identity demagogue"
https://theintercept.com/2018/02/16/trump-russia-election-hacking-investigation/
― reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 16 February 2018 22:36 (six years ago) link
Americans must live with the uncertainty of not knowing whether Trump has the best interests of the United States or those of Russia at heart.
― albondigas con gas (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 16 February 2018 23:00 (six years ago) link
"By the way, I try like hell to hide that bald spot, folks, I work hard at it," Trump tells CPAC -- rare moment of self-deprecating humor!— Eliana Johnson (@elianayjohnson) February 23, 2018
― j., Friday, 23 February 2018 15:45 (six years ago) link
Bald "spot?"
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 23 February 2018 15:50 (six years ago) link
You mean, your head?
This really happened. pic.twitter.com/DxI1AQG0hs— VICE News (@vicenews) February 23, 2018
― Le Bateau Ivre, Friday, 23 February 2018 15:58 (six years ago) link
no humanizing of unmitigated evil pls
― this machine slightly inconveniences fascists (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 23 February 2018 17:06 (six years ago) link
oh it's inevitable
― flappy bird, Friday, 23 February 2018 17:31 (six years ago) link
Scott Adams probably nutting his Dilbert-shaped boxers right now
― frogbs, Friday, 23 February 2018 17:38 (six years ago) link
can't wait for the polls in 2028 which show that trump's post-presidential approval rating climbing above 50%
― i remember the corned beef of my childhood (Karl Malone), Friday, 23 February 2018 18:22 (six years ago) link
if Yam had found himself in an active shooter situation in civilian life, with his security detail taken out, which of his loved ones would he NOT use as a human shield?
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Friday, 23 February 2018 19:27 (six years ago) link
all too easy to visualize
― circa1916, Friday, 23 February 2018 19:30 (six years ago) link
he can always buy a new wife
― too notch (stevie), Friday, 23 February 2018 21:38 (six years ago) link
get the grift while the grifting's good
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/02/23/rnc-paid-trump-campaign-trump-tower-rent-after-paying-legal-bills.html
― reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 23 February 2018 22:02 (six years ago) link
LISTEN - This is what Michael Wolff was HEARING in his earpiece when he claimed he couldn’t hear my question on @TheTodayShow this morning. pic.twitter.com/dl3ZvQfKWm— BenFordham (@BenFordham) February 26, 2018
Have we been talking abt the absolute shit show Michael Wolff's been having as of late? Kids from a Dutch tv show asked him critical questions, causing him to cancel all Dutch interviews that were planned.
― Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 26 February 2018 15:54 (six years ago) link
that clip is beautiful
― Simon H., Monday, 26 February 2018 16:06 (six years ago) link
Wow. Clearly he heard him the entire time. You gotta practice that routine in the mirror a few before times before attempting it on live tv
― i remember the corned beef of my childhood (Karl Malone), Monday, 26 February 2018 16:06 (six years ago) link
i think we all owe mr. and mrs. trump an apology. all they ever wanted was to chain-migrate melania's parents from a former soviet bloc country. tax cuts
― reggie (qualmsley), Monday, 26 February 2018 16:10 (six years ago) link
I meant this one:
In #CollegeTour stelt studente messcherpe vraag aan auteur van het boek 'Fire and Fury' Michael Wolff. Wolff suggereerde eerder in een interview dat president Trump een verhouding heeft met de Amerikaanse ambassadeur bij de Verenigde Naties Nikki Haley. pic.twitter.com/SITmJyK0fk— twan huys (@twanhuijs) February 23, 2018
He got owned by a Dutch student lol
― Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 26 February 2018 16:14 (six years ago) link
It's more of a self-own actually, ending with a "you played yourself" silence.
― Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 26 February 2018 16:18 (six years ago) link
trump has only ever had the best interests of donald trump at heart― albondigas con gas (bizarro gazzara), Friday, February 16, 2018 11:00 PM (one week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Certain nations go out of their way to making certain individuals' personal interests rhyme with their own
― Moo Vaughn, Monday, 26 February 2018 16:38 (six years ago) link
Wolff fucked up as soon as he said "Nikki Haley embraced the rumors" gtfo dude. in fairness he never named anyone on Bill Maher, and by that point I had read most of the book and assumed he was talking about Hope Hicks, but when Haley preemptively defended herself Wolff should've just stuck with "I didn't name anyone and Nikki Haley is offering a defense for something I did not accuse her of."
but really it was reckless to bring it up in the first place on Maher's show. it's not as if Wolff needed to goose sales
― flappy bird, Monday, 26 February 2018 17:29 (six years ago) link
Wolff being sketchy as fuck doesn't exonerate Trump. But Wolff can go away any time now thx.
― oklahomie don't play that (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 26 February 2018 17:56 (six years ago) link
yea obviously, just bummed Wolff compounded already significant doubts re: his credibility as a journalist
― flappy bird, Monday, 26 February 2018 18:10 (six years ago) link
He's always been a con artist as far as I can tell
Wolff being sketchy as fuck doesn't exonerate Trump
I don't think anyone (here) is arguing this
― Simon H., Monday, 26 February 2018 18:15 (six years ago) link
I certainly wasn't.
― Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 26 February 2018 18:20 (six years ago) link
No, no one here. But you can be damn sure that Wolff's slipups will be madly spun on fox - beetblort - dextrosphere.
― oklahomie don't play that (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 26 February 2018 18:40 (six years ago) link
Not much you can do about the chuds.
― Simon H., Monday, 26 February 2018 18:44 (six years ago) link
yes there is, you don't have to give them free ammunition.
― flappy bird, Monday, 26 February 2018 18:46 (six years ago) link
This line of attack was inevitable as soon as Wolff got involved. And it's not like the likes of fuckin Breitbart need to wait around for legitimate grievances to fire those shots.
― Simon H., Monday, 26 February 2018 18:56 (six years ago) link
true but this stuff has gotten him scrubbed from MSNBC and other liberal arenas where he was a sought after guest in january
― flappy bird, Monday, 26 February 2018 18:57 (six years ago) link
I think he probably outlived his usefulness on this subject a while ago tbh
― Simon H., Monday, 26 February 2018 19:01 (six years ago) link
i keep waiting for someone that has that kind of venue to call his "plan" out as straight up moronic, ill informed and dangerous to his face and i guess this is as close as were going to get.
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Monday, 26 February 2018 19:10 (six years ago) link
lol that was supposed to be in the other thread
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Monday, 26 February 2018 19:12 (six years ago) link
back on topic: Trump dissing the officers that didn't go into the school in Florida during the shooting, and then saying he would've gone in "without a weapon" = classic
― flappy bird, Monday, 26 February 2018 19:22 (six years ago) link
that is inarguably hilarious, sorry everyone
― Simon H., Monday, 26 February 2018 19:29 (six years ago) link
Trump couldn't even act superior around Obama IRL, he was shook every time he stood near him. our president is an internet tough guy.
― omar little, Monday, 26 February 2018 19:30 (six years ago) link
cadet bone spurs to the rescue!
― reggie (qualmsley), Monday, 26 February 2018 19:31 (six years ago) link
In a 2008 interview with Howard Stern, Trump told the shock jock that he turned away from an injured elderly man who had fallen off the stage at a Mar-a-Lago benefit because he couldn’t stomach the sight of blood.
“This guy falls off right on his face, hits his head, and I thought he died,” Trump told Stern. “And you know what I did? I said, ‘Oh, my God, that’s disgusting,’ and I turned away. I couldn’t, you know, he was right in front of me and I turned away. I didn’t want to touch him.”
― omar little, Monday, 26 February 2018 20:12 (six years ago) link
our president is an internet tough guy.otm (which autocorrects to "porn" on my phone)
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 26 February 2018 20:13 (six years ago) link
Die Hard VI: President Screaming Meemie
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Monday, 26 February 2018 20:13 (six years ago) link
https://images.newrepublic.com/2a1fc72d33729a106b3e794d3102b0da81dcaea7.jpeg?w=1000&q=65&dpi=1&fm=pjpg&fit=crop&crop=faces&h=667
― omar little, Monday, 26 February 2018 20:14 (six years ago) link
even now, that slouchy, arms-crossed look he seems to fall into now every time he's in a meeting is just textbook weak posture. like he's not even interested in playing the part anymore.
― frogbs, Monday, 26 February 2018 20:18 (six years ago) link
https://d2ffutrenqvap3.cloudfront.net/items/3w1R3H0q3w2y1M410s1T/throwing%20shade.jpg
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 09:45 (six years ago) link
Fire & fury was hilarious and I enjoyed reading it but it shouldn’t be a surprise that Michael Wolff is a liar. I don’t think pointing this out helps Trump either. It’s not like Wolff was his only critic or anything.
― treeship 2, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 13:43 (six years ago) link
Xp
still, the fact that there have been practically no specific denials of stuff in the book kinda leads me to believe that a lot of it is basically accurate
― frogbs, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 13:47 (six years ago) link
treeship otm
― Frederik B, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 14:44 (six years ago) link
― It's not delivery, it's Adorno! (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 16:08 (six years ago) link
starting to come around to that point of view myself
― NEW CHIMP THREAT (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 16:09 (six years ago) link
lol trump's umbrella is the perfect size to protect both of them too
― while my dirk gently weeps (symsymsym), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 16:10 (six years ago) link
the umbrella of a man who would rush a school shooter unarmed
― while my dirk gently weeps (symsymsym), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 16:11 (six years ago) link
weird that a republican president would keep for himself something that would be of benefit to others if only it was shared
― NEW CHIMP THREAT (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 16:13 (six years ago) link
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/mueller-and-trump-born-to-wealth-raised-to-lead-then-sharply-different-choices/2018/02/22/ad50b7bc-0a99-11e8-8b0d-891602206fb7_story.html
This piece is really something
Donald Trump grew up in a 23-room manse in Queens, a faux Southern plantation house with a Cadillac limousine in the driveway. He attended private school from kindergarten on; his focus in school, Trump told The Washington Post in 2016, was “creating mischief, because, for some reason, I liked to stir things up and I liked to test people. . . . It wasn’t malicious so much as it was aggressive.”
In second grade, he said, he punched his music teacher in the face. He got into trouble often. Before eighth grade started, his father sent him to military school.
At New York Military Academy, where the rules were so strictly enforced that a desperate cadet was said to have leaped into the Hudson River in an attempted escape, Trump thrived. Although he ate in a mess hall instead of being served steaks by the family cook, and although he slept in a barracks rather than his own room in a mansion, he for the first time took pride in his grades. He won medals for neatness and order. He also won notice from fellow cadets for touting his father’s wealth and boasting to friends that “I’m going to be famous one day.”
Trump competed to become a cadet leader and enjoyed wielding authority. As a junior supply sergeant in E Company, he ordered that a cadet be struck on the backside as punishment for breaking formation. Another time, while inspecting dorm rooms, Trump saw cadet Ted Levine’s unmade bed and blew up, ripping off the sheets and tossing them on the floor, Levine said. Levine threw a combat boot at Trump and hit him with a broomstick. Trump, infuriated, grabbed Levine and tried to push him out a second-story window, Levine said.
Promoted to captain of A Company, Trump won respect from some of the other boys, who said they never wanted to disappoint him. Trump introduced them to a world of fun, setting up a tanning salon in his dorm room, bringing beautiful women to campus and leading the baseball team to victory.
But other cadets said Trump tried to break boys who didn’t bend to his will. During Trump’s senior year, when one of his sergeants shoved a new cadet against a wall for not standing at attention quickly enough, Trump was relieved of his duty in the barracks, said Lee Ains, the student who was shoved.
Trump denied being demoted, saying he was actually moved up. “You don’t get elevated if you partake in hazing,” he told The Post in 2016. He was put in charge of a drill team that would perform in New York City’s Columbus Day Parade.
― maura, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 16:28 (six years ago) link
medals for neatness and order
― oklahomie don't play that (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 16:31 (six years ago) link
"setting up a tanning salon in his dorm room"
― maura, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 16:32 (six years ago) link
ted levine from monk?!
― NEW CHIMP THREAT (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 16:59 (six years ago) link
different one seems like
― maura, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 17:02 (six years ago) link
https://phys.org/news/2018-02-reactions-odor-reveal-political-attitudes.html
A scale was developed for the participants to rate their levels of disgust for body odours, both their own and others. The scale was used in a large-scale survey administered online in different countries, together with questions regarding political views. In the U.S., questions about how they planned to vote in the presidential race in 2016 were included. "It showed that people who were more disgusted by smells were also more likely to vote for Donald Trump than those who were less sensitive. We thought that was interesting, because Donald Trump talks frequently about how different people disgust him. He thinks that women are disgusting and that immigrants spread disease, and it comes up often in his rhetoric. It fits with our hypothesis that his supporters would be more easily disgusted themselves," says Jonas Olofsson.
of course they say you can never really smell yourself like someone else can
― j., Wednesday, 28 February 2018 21:46 (six years ago) link
he who smelt it dealt it iirc
― i remember the corned beef of my childhood (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 28 February 2018 21:47 (six years ago) link
reach down, between my legs, ease the seat back
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-panama/u-s-lawmakers-question-trump-ties-to-panama-project-idUSKCN1GD5B4
― reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 1 March 2018 14:53 (six years ago) link
pic.twitter.com/9ckFJNYWJv— mark (@kept_simple) March 14, 2018
lol
― j., Thursday, 15 March 2018 01:54 (six years ago) link
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DYR9iowU0AEaqBV.jpg
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 15 March 2018 02:41 (six years ago) link
wow
― motorpsycho nightmare winningham (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 15 March 2018 03:29 (six years ago) link
i feel so handsome rn
― j., Thursday, 15 March 2018 03:50 (six years ago) link
Who do we want to rule
― YouTube_-_funy_cats.flv (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Thursday, 15 March 2018 03:53 (six years ago) link
Also there is a whole light setup reflected in the mirror so apparently the photographer gave up
― YouTube_-_funy_cats.flv (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Thursday, 15 March 2018 03:54 (six years ago) link
Doctored according to Snopes, although the real photo isn't much better.
https://us-east-1.tchyn.io/snopes-production/uploads/2017/07/spot-the-difference.jpg
― jmm, Thursday, 15 March 2018 04:00 (six years ago) link
Also there is a glass behind ivanka in the 4-shot
― YouTube_-_funy_cats.flv (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Thursday, 15 March 2018 04:01 (six years ago) link
And a cable coming out of her head
Of course it's doctored. The only real surprise is how very little it's actually doctored.
― Another helping of mouthwatering cobbler? (Old Lunch), Thursday, 15 March 2018 04:12 (six years ago) link
Fake news!
― flappy bird, Thursday, 15 March 2018 04:28 (six years ago) link
this is how don, jr. and vanessa trump met https://t.co/6W2FfsVBQW pic.twitter.com/I0Mo2vveYu— Kenzie Bryant (@kenzbry) February 8, 2018
― while my dirk gently weeps (symsymsym), Thursday, 15 March 2018 04:45 (six years ago) link
that's love
― flappy bird, Thursday, 15 March 2018 04:51 (six years ago) link
Lol cuetTrump is such a dad
― F# A# (∞), Thursday, 15 March 2018 05:13 (six years ago) link
speaking as a dad, them’s fightin’ words
― El Tomboto, Thursday, 15 March 2018 05:25 (six years ago) link
so basically his dad hooked him up ...
― Zelda Zonk, Thursday, 15 March 2018 05:34 (six years ago) link
"Hi I'm Donald Trump, I wanted to introduce you to my son, Donald Trump, Jr."
― motorpsycho nightmare winningham (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 15 March 2018 10:30 (six years ago) link
So Don Jr. met his wife basically because his dad kept homing in on her as an anonymous piece of ass. Something to share with the grandkids, I suppose. And absolutely the hallmark of a family one wants to marry into.
― Another helping of mouthwatering cobbler? (Old Lunch), Thursday, 15 March 2018 13:10 (six years ago) link
I know this is trivial and petty but Eric clearly can't NOT do lampreyface. Even in a situation where he knows he's being photographed and it might be advisable to look unlampreylike.
http://images5.fanpop.com/image/photos/29800000/The-Master-the-master-buffy-the-vampire-slayer-29898313-400-300.jpg
― I leprecan't even. (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 15 March 2018 13:27 (six years ago) link
eric always looks like he's cosplaying flukeman from the x-files
― in conclusion, it is good to peel the sheeps (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 15 March 2018 13:29 (six years ago) link
Yes, lamprey/Flukeman. That is exactly the apt comparison which was just eluding my grasp. I was only able to get this close on my own:
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/b4/b8/91/b4b891c897c17db610a91fbf6997268f.gif
― Another helping of mouthwatering cobbler? (Old Lunch), Thursday, 15 March 2018 13:35 (six years ago) link
Which one is the doctored one? That is, which is the before and which is the after?
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 15 March 2018 13:44 (six years ago) link
also: nemesis from resident evil
https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/villains/images/b/b7/Nemesisrl.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20100410001021
― in conclusion, it is good to peel the sheeps (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 15 March 2018 13:45 (six years ago) link
How they probably see themselves:https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DTSPkXrW4AEiuZW.jpg
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 15 March 2018 14:05 (six years ago) link
http://www.taxhistory.org/www/website.nsf/web/presidentialtaxreturns
― reggie (qualmsley), Monday, 19 March 2018 17:13 (six years ago) link
Right, so why are you asking whether it's a legal requirement?
― I leprecan't even. (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 19 March 2018 17:14 (six years ago) link
he'll share them with investigators when he's forced to do so. he may have already done that. the public will see them later on. he's not going to release them unilaterally
― Karl Malone, Monday, 19 March 2018 17:14 (six years ago) link
xpost
i think it's classic that he's on that website with those other public figures. go trump!
― reggie (qualmsley), Monday, 19 March 2018 17:15 (six years ago) link
Does he need to share returns? Can't Mueller (or wouldn't he have already) get warrant to take them directly from IRS? Not sure how that works
― motorpsycho nightmare winningham (Hadrian VIII), Monday, 19 March 2018 18:26 (six years ago) link
he promised he'd release his tax returns. maybe we don't deserve to see them? or he's just waiting till the time is right during the case, to prove to everyone what a big strong billionaire he is, who doesn't need any help from the kremlin?
https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-opening-argument-in-the-trial-of-donald-j-trump
― reggie (qualmsley), Monday, 19 March 2018 19:58 (six years ago) link
you know i do lampreyface in every single photo that's ever taken of me
this is also why i avoid being photographed
― ziggy the ginhead (rushomancy), Tuesday, 20 March 2018 00:01 (six years ago) link
mr. trump is a civil rights activist, bringing porn stars to network television, when before the *fake news* shunned the poor stormy danielses of the world. #WWFWCWMRGA nikolai volkoff the iron shiek
― reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 22 March 2018 14:21 (six years ago) link
mr. trump is a genius, banging a porn star and then rubbing christian evangelicals' noses in it. MAGA!
― reggie (qualmsley), Monday, 26 March 2018 16:46 (six years ago) link
https://www.thecut.com/2018/03/stormy-danielss-60-minutes-interview-was-actually-brilliant.html
[ The conversation] started off all about him just talking about himself: And he’s like, ‘Have you seen my new magazine?’ … And so I was like, “Does this normally work for you? … does just … talking about yourself normally work? … Someone should take that magazine and spank you with it. … And I’ll never forget the look on his face … I was like, ‘turn around, drop ‘em.’ … I just gave him a couple swats. and from that moment on, he was a completely different person. He quit talking about himself and he asked me things … it just became … more appropriate.According to this, Daniels was able to achieve the impossible: she broke through Trump’s delusional solipsism, literally slapping him into awareness of another person. And she did it by refusing to play along with his self-vaunting monologue. By questioning the effectiveness of Trump’s boasting, she stopped it. We can all learn from this.
According to this, Daniels was able to achieve the impossible: she broke through Trump’s delusional solipsism, literally slapping him into awareness of another person. And she did it by refusing to play along with his self-vaunting monologue. By questioning the effectiveness of Trump’s boasting, she stopped it. We can all learn from this.
― j., Monday, 26 March 2018 20:34 (six years ago) link
We can all learn from this.
OK. I'd be more than willing to swat him a few times.
― A is for (Aimless), Monday, 26 March 2018 23:50 (six years ago) link
Me, too, but with a pool ball in a sock, or a lock on a chain.
― grawlix (unperson), Monday, 26 March 2018 23:58 (six years ago) link
god how is this motherfucker the president of anything let alone of AMERICA
― j., Tuesday, 3 April 2018 02:25 (six years ago) link
I mean where else
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 3 April 2018 02:34 (six years ago) link
j and flappy win, lol. (but everyone else...sorrrrry).
― Hunt3r, Tuesday, 3 April 2018 03:10 (six years ago) link
Trump has like four Kuatos growing out of his midsection and they all look like Lou Dobbs. pic.twitter.com/O8kvZcX2An— David Roth (@david_j_roth) April 9, 2018
― j., Monday, 9 April 2018 01:07 (six years ago) link
Cohen: Boy, I now wish Trump had not won the election.
Flynn: My life would be a lot better if Trump actually lost the election.
Manafort: I know I wanted Trump to win the election, but now I truly wish that he hadn't.
Ivanka: Gosh, maybe daddy winning the election was not a good thing after all.
Jared: My F-I-L winning the election has been a 666 type of hell for me.
Don Jr: I hate the fact that my dad won the election. This sucks ass.
Eric: I'm Eric.
Melania: My life would have sucked with him either winning or losing the election, so I don't give a fuck.
RNC: Trump is bringing our whole party down with him. It was so much easier being the party of 'NO'.
Trump: I'm so glad I won the election. Best thing ever. GOP! GOP!!
― reggie (qualmsley), Monday, 23 April 2018 20:12 (five years ago) link
LOL
Beyond the torrent of heels taking early retirement, do we think this is the GOP's take on Trump?
― Lou Grant, the Iranian cinema of late '70s TV (stevie), Monday, 23 April 2018 22:54 (five years ago) link
Trump sucks!
― Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 24 April 2018 01:49 (five years ago) link
which pink floyd album is this pic.twitter.com/a0uQx6rsNp— Hunter Lurie (@hunterlurie) April 23, 2018
― j., Tuesday, 24 April 2018 02:24 (five years ago) link
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 24 April 2018 02:32 (five years ago) link
total dud
― Karl Malone, Tuesday, 24 April 2018 02:55 (five years ago) link
this was circumscribed in one of the many other threads but I'm putting here regardless
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/04/shania-twain-and-the-crisis-of-american-democracy-really.htmlhttp://www.asanet.org/sites/default/files/attach/journals/feb18asrfeature.pdf
When the political system is widely seen as doing its job, somebody like Trump, who violates its basic norms, is seen as illegitimate. A politician who blatantly lies doesn’t stand a chance. But this changes when more and more people come to believe that the system is rigged and that most politicians don’t have their best interests in mind. Amid such a “crisis of legitimacy,” voters don’t particularly care whether a politician plays by the rules of the game. Instead, they long for somebody who bluntly states how rotten the system really is.
some other bullshit follows, and mostly it boils down to humans are pack animals, and never forget it or you'll pay. but there is a situation where we aren't quite so bad: when we work together. which is the other thing pack animals do well.
― El Tomboto, Wednesday, 25 April 2018 04:08 (five years ago) link
The argument that Trump won because enough people believe that the system is rigged falls down on one point: Everyone hated Hillary Clinton for doing the exact same thing. So, what, Democratic voters don't think the system is rigged?
The thing is, of course, that Trump voters do think the system is rigged, but in a very specific way: It helps black people, which is not what it is supposed to do. That is the way in which it isn't doing it's job.
― Frederik B, Wednesday, 25 April 2018 08:36 (five years ago) link
Read the article, Fred
― El Tomboto, Wednesday, 25 April 2018 11:41 (five years ago) link
my man with a combover so notorious it'll be the "benedict arnold" to julius' "caesar cut" . . . joked about the president of france having dandruff. go 2scoops!
― reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 25 April 2018 14:52 (five years ago) link
lmao that picture definitely has a "late period hipgnosis" look
― The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 25 April 2018 14:56 (five years ago) link
the most and the best court-appointed Special Masters to sift through a president's personal attorney's seized documents for client privilege in american history, folks. electoral college. #MAGA
― reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 27 April 2018 16:47 (five years ago) link
presiding over the end of the korean war: classic?
― flappy bird, Friday, 27 April 2018 16:54 (five years ago) link
i mean it seems like it's all theater and the north will invade the south in 3 months or something but this will still be perceived as classic rather than dud by trump supporters and ken bone types
― flappy bird, Friday, 27 April 2018 16:55 (five years ago) link
if the peace lasts long enough for a nobel prize to be handed out, the next trump narrative will be how unfairly he was treated by not being given the prize. 'obama got the nobel prize for nothing and i was treated so unfairly wah wah wah', etc
― Karl Malone, Friday, 27 April 2018 16:58 (five years ago) link
mega dud
― Rabbit Control (Latham Green), Friday, 27 April 2018 17:04 (five years ago) link
well if north korea reunites with south korea then south korea will no longer be the cosmetic surgery capital of the world. #MAGA
― reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 27 April 2018 17:25 (five years ago) link
WATCH: During an event with Team USA Olympians and Paralympians at the White House, President Trump said, "What happened with the Paralympics was so incredible and so inspiring to me. And I watched — it's a little tough to watch too much, but I watched as much as I could." pic.twitter.com/geYUUu9vmg— PBS NewsHour (@NewsHour) April 27, 2018
― reggie (qualmsley), Saturday, 28 April 2018 04:42 (five years ago) link
I bet he thinks that's empathetic.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 28 April 2018 12:38 (five years ago) link
I think he's just saying that it's difficult for him to spend an extended period of time focused on people who aren't named Donald Trump or at least talking about Donald Trump. The Paralympians are inspiring, but I think they'd be even moreso if they wore t-shirts with Donald Trump's face on them and chanted 'Donald Trump! Donald Trump!' while they're engaged in whatever non-Donald Trump-related activity they're engaging in.
― a REAL SCARIE robot!!!! (Old Lunch), Saturday, 28 April 2018 13:44 (five years ago) link
^ gets it
― A is for (Aimless), Saturday, 28 April 2018 18:33 (five years ago) link
This guy is a real dud
― The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 28 April 2018 18:50 (five years ago) link
at least he was honest there.
― Ludo, Saturday, 28 April 2018 19:07 (five years ago) link
i'm beginning to regret voting for him
― global tetrahedron, Saturday, 28 April 2018 19:13 (five years ago) link
OTM. I suspect that it was a bad choice, and I'm very nearly sorry that I made it. Although I'll probably do it again, because reasons.
― a REAL SCARIE robot!!!! (Old Lunch), Saturday, 28 April 2018 19:23 (five years ago) link
lots of people are saying mr. trump hired as the heavy to go threaten stephanie clifford and her daughter . . . none other than michael avanetti in a frightwig . . . which instead lead to some stormy love
― reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 1 May 2018 14:17 (five years ago) link
Frank Rich on how the same NYC "elites" empowered Roy Cohn and Trump:
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2018/04/frank-rich-roy-cohn-the-original-donald-trump.html
(Incidentally a reminder to spit on Baba Wawa's grave when she finally croaks.)
― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 1 May 2018 15:22 (five years ago) link
that's a great article notwithstanding the fact that Frank Rich is 100% NYC elite.
― Joe Gargan (dandydonweiner), Tuesday, 1 May 2018 15:29 (five years ago) link
Not the kind that can arrange sweetheart real estate deals.
When I posted that on Facebroke, it asked, "Does this post contain hate speech?"
― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 1 May 2018 15:41 (five years ago) link
I got the same question when I posted that awesome Talmud excerpt from the Masculinity thread
― Simon H., Tuesday, 1 May 2018 15:43 (five years ago) link
I saw the hate speech question all over my kid's elementary school pta Facebook page anout an hour ago. I think it's just something they're doing today.
― how's life, Tuesday, 1 May 2018 15:48 (five years ago) link
Please tell me this is the extent of Facebook's efforts to monitor for hate speech. It's like a manager who just stays home and emails their employees every day with a 'are you working, y/n'.
― a REAL SCARIE robot!!!! (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 1 May 2018 15:54 (five years ago) link
if there's one thing facebook users are good at it's being able to know hate speech when they see it, and to consciously decide to take steps to stop spreading it
thanks facebook!
― Mahogany Loggins (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 1 May 2018 15:58 (five years ago) link
I clicked yes on every post just out of principle, suspect many others did the same
― frogbs, Tuesday, 1 May 2018 16:03 (five years ago) link
peacebook
― reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 1 May 2018 16:12 (five years ago) link
re: barbara walters i always remember her interview with monica lewinsky, how prudish & nasty BW is, and at one point, completely incredulous, asks lewinsky: "why didn't you take this dress and send it to be dry cleaned?!"
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 1 May 2018 16:29 (five years ago) link
Q: Which do you think is the most important part of the nuclear triad?
A: The destruction is very important to me.
― reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 1 May 2018 21:21 (five years ago) link
gotta be the nuclear part
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 1 May 2018 21:26 (five years ago) link
sheriff joe. scooter libby. who will mr. trump pardon next?
― reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 3 May 2018 16:51 (five years ago) link
*whom
― reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 3 May 2018 16:52 (five years ago) link
keep it together reg
― j., Thursday, 3 May 2018 16:57 (five years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0CmGs9ixpNU
― Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 3 May 2018 17:00 (five years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfMqgdOA5PM
― reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 3 May 2018 17:28 (five years ago) link
happy cinco de mayo!
the president of the united states of america is so broke he can't afford to tell the truth
― reggie (qualmsley), Saturday, 5 May 2018 13:48 (five years ago) link
I think all Americans should support their president no matter what. It's like if I'm stranded in the desert and I get hungry, I suck it up and start eating fistfuls of sand even though it will almost certainly kill me. It's my duty. My responsibility. Amen.
― Love Theme From Oh God! You Devil (Old Lunch), Saturday, 5 May 2018 14:23 (five years ago) link
Who is Donald Trump
― flappy bird, Sunday, 6 May 2018 01:46 (five years ago) link
http://www.gstatic.com/tv/thumb/movieposters/11442/p11442_p_v8_aa.jpg
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 6 May 2018 12:46 (five years ago) link
This seems a little more pointed than not inviting someone to your dinner party.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/05/06/mccain-says-trump-should-skip-his-funeral-wants-pence-to-attend.html
― clemenza, Sunday, 6 May 2018 20:31 (five years ago) link
The comments thread makes that more tolerable somehow.
― Hunt3r, Sunday, 6 May 2018 22:37 (five years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSH5bVVNYIo
https://www.buzzfeed.com/anthonycormier/trump-moscow-micheal-cohen-felix-sater-campaign?utm_term=.tdqVGmpgz#.eu8m3d4vq
― reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 17 May 2018 18:39 (five years ago) link
still can't believe this guy is President
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Friday, 18 May 2018 15:18 (five years ago) link
all you need is cutsall you need is cutsall you need are tax cutstax cuts are all you need
― reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 18 May 2018 15:32 (five years ago) link
lmao at the imagery on this site
https://www.americanideahotels.com/
― maura, Sunday, 17 June 2018 18:51 (five years ago) link
2scoops survived 'grab em by the pussy'; curious what info dump behind closed doors mr. putin told 2scoops his GRU commandos have to blow helsinki over too
― reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 17 July 2018 15:49 (five years ago) link
A president who can’t separate his innocence from Russia’s, even after a year and a half in office — and who has to be implored to listen to his national security team and prepare for the next attack — is clearly unfit to protect the country.
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/07/republican-congressmen-try-a-tv-intervention-with-trump-on-russia.html
― reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 24 July 2018 16:07 (five years ago) link
"His interest in what we're doing is problematic, from my chair, and I would say in general the owners' chair," Jones said at Wednesday's news conference to open training camp in Oxnard, California. "It's unprecedented, if you really think about it. But like the very game itself, that's the way it is and we'll deal with it.
"We feel strongly about how we deal with it and we'll do so accordingly, but, yes, I, like everybody, would like for it to go away."
http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/24192764/dallas-cowboys-owner-jerry-jones-says-donald-trump-interest-anthem-issue-problematic
USFL!
― reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 25 July 2018 20:55 (five years ago) link
ts: qualmsley nicknames in political threads vs morbs nicknames in political threads
― ( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 25 July 2018 21:09 (five years ago) link
morbs 1000%
― reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 25 July 2018 21:16 (five years ago) link
― The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 25 July 2018 22:24 (five years ago) link
who would you rather have a beer with
― brimstead, Wednesday, 25 July 2018 22:36 (five years ago) link
who would you rather have a beer take prescription amphetamines with
― flappy bird, Thursday, 26 July 2018 05:13 (five years ago) link
Can I ask a question? I'm not having second thoughts about this post. How does Donald Trump shit?
― flappy bird, Thursday, 26 July 2018 05:14 (five years ago) link
sources say that he sits on the toilet from shortly after dinner until he goes to bed, watching tv the entire time
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 26 July 2018 05:16 (five years ago) link
i just made up but you know it's true
How does Donald Trump shit?
According to Scott Adams, brilliantly and strategically.
― A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 26 July 2018 05:22 (five years ago) link
through persuasion
― flappy bird, Thursday, 26 July 2018 05:25 (five years ago) link
He’s definitely a dud. That might be challops but I believe it.
― Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 26 July 2018 05:56 (five years ago) link
just remembered this guy's views on exercise bahahahahaha
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 2 August 2018 18:21 (five years ago) link
Be more hilarious if he had a HEART ATTACK and DIED
― fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Thursday, 2 August 2018 18:47 (five years ago) link
Feel like his followers would just scream WHERE'S THE DEATH CERTIFICATE
the trump deathers
― the bhagwanadook (symsymsym), Friday, 3 August 2018 04:25 (five years ago) link
elvis is still alive I hear.
― A is for (Aimless), Friday, 3 August 2018 04:27 (five years ago) link
given his diet, two dumps per week, tops
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 3 August 2018 13:59 (five years ago) link
I assume some sort of viscous waste runoff is constantly oozing from his pores (as a result of a perma-logjam of steak briquettes in his colon).
― Things To Do For Dinner When You're Dad (Old Lunch), Friday, 3 August 2018 14:03 (five years ago) link
"Must suck to get away with every lie in the world all your life... then get to the big show and realize that, eventually, you're going to pay for every lie you ever told."
― reggie (qualmsley), Sunday, 5 August 2018 17:55 (five years ago) link
i'm willing to revisit this question if he murder-suicides one of his piece of shit kids or son-in-law
― constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Sunday, 5 August 2018 18:28 (five years ago) link
just another queens boy gone wrong, a gentile bernie madoff with way wealthier folks, much less brainpower, and not nearly the head of hair
― reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 24 August 2018 19:29 (five years ago) link
"Dr. Franklin was for retaining the clause [on impeachment], as favorable to the executive. History furnishes one example only of a first magistrate being formally brought to public justice. Every body cried out against this as unconstitutional. What was the practice before this, in cases where the chief magistrate rendered himself obnoxious? Why, recourse was had to assassination, in which he was not only deprived of his life, but of the opportunity of vindicating his character. It would be the best way, therefore, to provide in the Constitution for the regular punishment of the executive, where his misconduct should deserve it, and for his honorable acquittal, where he should be unjustly accused."
― reggie (qualmsley), Saturday, 8 September 2018 19:14 (five years ago) link
is 2scoops more jay gatsby or tom buchanan? is putin meyer wolfsheim? who's daisy? who's myrtle?
― reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 14 September 2018 18:08 (five years ago) link
Donald Trump is the real Gatsby; the novel’s Gatsby is Trump through (circa 2016) Michael Cohen’s eyes
― Trϵϵship, Friday, 14 September 2018 18:09 (five years ago) link
I meant nothing in particular by this remark, but it was taken up in an unexpected way.
“Civilization’s going to pieces,” broke out Tom violently. “I’ve gotten to be a terrible pessimist about things. Have you read ‘The Rise of the Colored Empires’ by this man Goddard?”
“Why, no,” I answered, rather surprised by his tone.
“Well, it’s a fine book, and everybody ought to read it. The idea is if we don’t look out the white race will be — will be utterly submerged. It’s all scientific stuff; it’s been proved.”
“Tom’s getting very profound,” said Daisy, with an expression of unthoughtful sadness. “He reads deep books with long words in them. What was that word we ——”
“Well, these books are all scientific,” insisted Tom, glancing at her impatiently. “This fellow has worked out the whole thing. It’s up to us, who are the dominant race, to watch out or these other races will have control of things.”
“We’ve got to beat them down,” whispered Daisy, winking ferociously toward the fervent sun.
“You ought to live in California —” began Miss Baker, but Tom interrupted her by shifting heavily in his chair.
“This idea is that we’re Nordics. I am, and you are, and you are, and ——” After an infinitesimal hesitation he included Daisy with a slight nod, and she winked at me again. “— And we’ve produced all the things that go to make civilization — oh, science and art, and all that. Do you see?”
― the bhagwanadook (symsymsym), Saturday, 15 September 2018 02:47 (five years ago) link
Tom Buchanan = Steve Bannon, Daisy = The New Yorker Ideas Festival
― the bhagwanadook (symsymsym), Saturday, 15 September 2018 02:48 (five years ago) link
The green light is Pepe.
― know-it-some (Ye Mad Puffin), Saturday, 15 September 2018 16:10 (five years ago) link
RIP Alan Abel
https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-owes-alan-abel-nine-hundred-dollars-567918
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 18 September 2018 01:07 (five years ago) link
https://www.vox.com/2018/10/11/17963782/fox-news-trump-rallies-ratings-dropping :(
― reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 11 October 2018 20:45 (five years ago) link
The following sentence appeared in a bylined AP article about the mail-bomber suspect Cesar Sayoc:
Minus some of the weirder posts and occasionally incomprehensible grammar, Sayoc's online rages weren't so far removed from the social media angst of the commander in chief."
― A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 30 October 2018 17:55 (five years ago) link
ha ha ha
― Sing The Mighty Beat (sic), Tuesday, 30 October 2018 18:06 (five years ago) link
it's too rainy for his hair to hold up outside in france on armistice day. tax cuts!
― reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 16 November 2018 02:12 (five years ago) link
reg
― self (alomar lines), Friday, 16 November 2018 04:51 (five years ago) link
Wow, Mr. President, that’s a good one. Was that like your answers to Mr. Mueller’s questions, or did you write this one yourself? https://t.co/Yd27sayt7C— Adam Schiff (@RepAdamSchiff) November 18, 2018
― reggie (qualmsley), Sunday, 18 November 2018 22:30 (five years ago) link
i can't believe he called him "adam shit" and didn't correct it
― Trϵϵship, Sunday, 18 November 2018 22:52 (five years ago) link
it wasn't a mistake
― Karl Malone, Sunday, 18 November 2018 22:58 (five years ago) link
very unpresdential. will you guys still vote for him?
― Trϵϵship, Sunday, 18 November 2018 23:02 (five years ago) link
on the fence
― reggie (qualmsley), Sunday, 18 November 2018 23:03 (five years ago) link
i want to give him some time in office and see how he implements his agenda. i'm sick of all this partisanship on both sides - i think we owe to him to at least give him a chance
― Karl Malone, Sunday, 18 November 2018 23:09 (five years ago) link
good people on both sides iirc
― an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Monday, 19 November 2018 00:58 (five years ago) link
i am depressed (and amazed) at this, but i am satisfied i'm alive to see it. most of the masks are off. i hope we all get to a better social and political place.
― legit lib llc (check us on patreon) (Hunt3r), Monday, 19 November 2018 06:24 (five years ago) link
Of interest to perhaps only me – @realDonaldTrump finds new people, places and things to insult at a shockingly linear rate. Here's his cumulative unique insults over time, with a linear best-fit to insults since Jan. 1, 2016. pic.twitter.com/VCg3iVtIQq— Kevin Quealy (@KevinQ) November 21, 2018
― j., Wednesday, 21 November 2018 03:19 (five years ago) link
he usually insults whoever is criticizing him or is connected with something that is threatening to him. since he's constantly smearing his ass on the universe, there's no shortage of new enemies for him to counterattack
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 21 November 2018 03:21 (five years ago) link
― macropuente (map), Wednesday, 21 November 2018 03:23 (five years ago) link
xxp that does seem strange, it's like we're being crossfaded into insanity
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 21 November 2018 05:33 (five years ago) link
A former staffer on The Apprentice and current stand-up comic named Noel Casler claims that Donald Trump was a “speed freak” who snorted crushed-up Adderall, and also says that Trump invited teen beauty pageant contestants up to his suite.
Casler told the crowd “I’m not kidding this is true. I had a 24-page NDA non-disclosure agreement, I didn’t know that he was becoming president, now it’s no way dumbass, I’m telling you everything I know.”
https://www.mediaite.com/donald-trump/former-apprentice-staffer-claims-trump-was-speed-freak-invited-teen-beauty-queens-to-his-suite/
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 13 December 2018 19:00 (five years ago) link
The late Wayne Barrett also investigated a rumor that Trump was hospitalized for an amphetamine overdose in, IIRC, the early '90s. Had key interviews but didn't publish for lack of documents. https://t.co/dXgTHadFpT— Corey Pein 😃🤑😐😩💀 (@coreypein) December 13, 2018
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 13 December 2018 19:02 (five years ago) link
the amphetamine usage doesn't bother me. sadly it's one of the few things i find remotely relatable about him (not that i have ever fucked around with amphetamines, but it's not uncommon)
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 13 December 2018 19:04 (five years ago) link
the stuff about him treating miss teen universe contestants as pieces of meat, though - THAT will be thing that brings this president down!!
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 13 December 2018 19:05 (five years ago) link
literally more than 50% of republican bros will high-five each other when they read about that
Called it!
― flappy bird, Thursday, 13 December 2018 19:19 (five years ago) link
the debates were televised
― sans lep (sic), Thursday, 13 December 2018 20:50 (five years ago) link
having spent enough time around ppl on uppers (unfortunately), there is like zero doubt in my mind Trump fucks with amphetamines. talking incessantly while saying nothing, running through all sorts of nonsensical tangents, being that keyed up nearly all the time at 70+, sleeping only a couple of hours a night, etc.
certain times (like that insane Fox & Friends call-in interview) he seems blatantly cranked out of his mind.
― circa1916, Thursday, 13 December 2018 21:29 (five years ago) link
exactly
― flappy bird, Thursday, 13 December 2018 22:24 (five years ago) link
iirc all three debates he was rambling incoherently and sniffing every 5 seconds
― frogbs, Thursday, 13 December 2018 22:29 (five years ago) link
I could've sworn those rumors were more-or-less substantiated aaages ago (read: at least eighteen months ago). Wasn't there at least some suggestion that crazy Dr. Healthiestpresidentever was actually secretly a Dr. Feelgood?
― Home Despot (Old Lunch), Thursday, 13 December 2018 22:41 (five years ago) link
I mean, let's just briefly consider the case of this septuagenarian with a diet that should leave him semi-comatose for 3/4 of the day and his seemingly bottomless reserves of energy...
― Home Despot (Old Lunch), Thursday, 13 December 2018 22:43 (five years ago) link
i hate this sexist idiot so much https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/12/trump-swears-gm-will-rue-the-day-it-crossed-him
― maura, Friday, 14 December 2018 20:04 (five years ago) link
When you buy a jacket online. pic.twitter.com/4zWVUFEEgQ— Tommy Campbell (@MrTommyCampbell) December 27, 2018
― j., Friday, 28 December 2018 02:21 (five years ago) link
i just figured kanye styled him
― maura, Friday, 28 December 2018 03:43 (five years ago) link
https://gawker.com/the-best-theory-of-1992-donald-trump-took-amphetamine-1755299885 xp
― 💫 (Trϵϵship), Friday, 28 December 2018 04:48 (five years ago) link
trump's affection for amphetamines was well known in the 90s. i agree he is probably still taking them, speaking as someone who took similar medication for "ADD" for a long time
― 💫 (Trϵϵship), Friday, 28 December 2018 04:52 (five years ago) link
however, i don't think it explains much about him except maybe the weird amount of stamina he has and the rambling way he talks.
― 💫 (Trϵϵship), Friday, 28 December 2018 04:56 (five years ago) link
that little grain of white powder falling out of his nose at 0:09 as he's saying "even as a civilian", could be just a compression artifact, a simple glitch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAgWCxIjBTI
― Milton Parker, Friday, 28 December 2018 04:58 (five years ago) link
if he's doing a ton of amphetamines, i wonder why it didn't show up in the woodward book or fire and fury though
― 💫 (Trϵϵship), Friday, 28 December 2018 05:04 (five years ago) link
because they're doing a ton of amphetamines too
all of washington is participating in "amphetamine parties", open secret
― Karl Malone, Friday, 28 December 2018 05:06 (five years ago) link
easy to hide if he's just taking them but railing adderall? idk. probably, if you're the president
― flappy bird, Friday, 28 December 2018 05:06 (five years ago) link
i don't know how good this guy is at hiding things
― 💫 (Trϵϵship), Friday, 28 December 2018 05:08 (five years ago) link
especially things to do with his personal habits. and he would need to be taking a TON to keep up the delusions of grandeur-level effects at this point in his life.
― 💫 (Trϵϵship), Friday, 28 December 2018 05:09 (five years ago) link
he should do more imo, lots and lots more, all at once.
― Scam jam, thank you ma’am (Sparkle Motion), Friday, 28 December 2018 07:15 (five years ago) link
nd he would need to be taking a TON to keep up the delusions of grandeur-level effects at this point in his life.
As someone with a narcissist father, let me tell you this. He doesn't need to take ANY to keep up the delusions of grandeur-level effects at this point in his life.
― anvil, Friday, 28 December 2018 08:42 (five years ago) link
And that delusions of grandeur increase with age, and that also the levels of validation and attention he gets are more than anyone else in the world anyway. He don't need no drugs for any of this
― anvil, Friday, 28 December 2018 08:59 (five years ago) link
Of course—I’m not saying he is definitely doing drugs. Just that *if*he is using speed at this point, 40 years after he first began taking it, and it is still affecting him in these “textbook” ways, then he is taking massive doses.
― 💫 (Trϵϵship), Friday, 28 December 2018 14:02 (five years ago) link
i mean it's the only way to explain his seemingly endless supply of energy. he's not crushing salads and quinoa, he's eating cheeseburgers.
― flappy bird, Friday, 28 December 2018 16:18 (five years ago) link
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2019/01/01/how-trump-got-bad-at-twitter-223572
And he has begun to post stilted video messages, which feature him standing on the White House grounds or in front of a backdrop of flags. They feel a bit like hostage videos: a deadness in the eyes, an absence of joy.
― j., Wednesday, 2 January 2019 01:51 (five years ago) link
nice
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 2 January 2019 05:53 (five years ago) link
When has this man ever had joy in his eyes?
― Rhine Jive Click Bait (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 2 January 2019 13:06 (five years ago) link
I thought i read that narcissists are like privately tormwntwd and dissatisfied.
― Trϵϵship, Wednesday, 2 January 2019 13:12 (five years ago) link
*tormented
― Trϵϵship, Wednesday, 2 January 2019 13:15 (five years ago) link
Torrent?
― DJI, Wednesday, 2 January 2019 16:16 (five years ago) link
it's like arthur c. clarke's famous observation: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic"
trump's law of the deal is that any sufficiently advanced *job creating* financial arrangement is indistinguishable from crime . . . and the liberals are just jealous / hate america!
https://www.patheos.com/blogs/dispatches/2019/01/02/how-russian-oligarchs-saved-trumps-financial-empire/
― reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 2 January 2019 16:47 (five years ago) link
are we going to get tax returns in 12 minutes when the new congress convenes?
― Trϵϵship, Wednesday, 2 January 2019 16:48 (five years ago) link
just as a guy who used to snort a lot of adderall, meth, crushed up trucker speed, etc, it is just really hard for me to imagine the toll that shit would take on a 70-year-old body. old speed freaks are pretty hard to come by, I guess it could be different for rich people but like...proper speed jags leave you incapable of functioning & he doesn't even talk very fast.
― she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Wednesday, 2 January 2019 17:03 (five years ago) link
it is just really hard for me to imagine the toll that shit would take on a 70-year-old body. old speed freaks are pretty hard to come by
Yeah, I don't see Trump having Lemmy's stamina.
― grawlix (unperson), Wednesday, 2 January 2019 17:37 (five years ago) link
You must admit this is a good line, and as near to the truth as he comes. https://t.co/bbpnlFBqne— Richard M. Nixon (@dick_nixon) January 2, 2019
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 2 January 2019 21:53 (five years ago) link
isn't that what Trump does
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 2 January 2019 22:05 (five years ago) link
(sell real estate, I mean)
ostensibly
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 2 January 2019 22:06 (five years ago) link
Donald John Trump (born June 14, 1946) is the 45th and current president of the United States. Before entering politics, he was a businessman and television personality.
― ((O))_____((O)) (esby), Wednesday, 2 January 2019 22:14 (five years ago) link
i'd rather be a realtor in arizona than a dickhead billionaire sociopath in new york.
― Trϵϵship, Wednesday, 2 January 2019 22:21 (five years ago) link
not that flake is selling real estate. the burn was bad and stupid.
"or whatever he's doing"
sort of an involuntary self-burn
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 2 January 2019 22:47 (five years ago) link
How do you impeach a president who has won perhaps the greatest election of all time, done nothing wrong (no Collusion with Russia, it was the Dems that Colluded), had the most successful first two years of any president, and is the most popular Republican in party history 93%?— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) January 4, 2019
― reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 4 January 2019 16:46 (five years ago) link
Wow.
― The Mandal Brah Set (Old Lunch), Friday, 4 January 2019 16:49 (five years ago) link
I'm just waiting for the follow-up tweet where he mentions his superhuman strength, his record number of Academy Awards, and the fact that he's both the youngest and oldest person ever to have lived.
― The Mandal Brah Set (Old Lunch), Friday, 4 January 2019 16:50 (five years ago) link
Let him host the Oscars... it's all he wants
― flappy bird, Friday, 4 January 2019 17:01 (five years ago) link
Why do u wish for the producers of Green Book to sit through twenty two hours of incoherent bloviation before collecting their best picture award, why
― The Mandal Brah Set (Old Lunch), Friday, 4 January 2019 17:09 (five years ago) link
ohhh how about Viggo hosting in character?
― flappy bird, Friday, 4 January 2019 17:12 (five years ago) link
fuck this turd
― j., Wednesday, 6 February 2019 02:19 (five years ago) link
cicero wept
― j., Wednesday, 6 February 2019 02:30 (five years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vs86KZ7_9HE
― I want to change my display name (dan m), Sunday, 3 March 2019 16:47 (five years ago) link
ctrl+f "Trump" on Google News homepage yields 27 hits. 4 of the 6 "Headlines" entries have his name in the headline.
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 11 June 2019 23:58 (four years ago) link
It's what he wanted
― Tiltin' My Lens Photography (stevie), Wednesday, 12 June 2019 07:03 (four years ago) link
27 hits for "Trump" again today wtf
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 25 June 2019 14:27 (four years ago) link
It's his world and we just live in it.
― A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 25 June 2019 18:05 (four years ago) link
He might take issue with the ontological rigor of the latter half of your assertion.
― Sly Bradbury's The Marion Cobretti-cles (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 25 June 2019 18:11 (four years ago) link
this guy sucks
― maura, Wednesday, 26 June 2019 00:10 (four years ago) link
i vote dud
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 26 June 2019 00:11 (four years ago) link
holding off on making any judgments until after his 2nd term
― d'ILM for Murder (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 26 June 2019 00:22 (four years ago) link
I'll admit, I do sometimes find him a little brash.
― fetter, Wednesday, 26 June 2019 10:27 (four years ago) link
Yiiiiiiiiiikes pic.twitter.com/aSe7gBPdrW— Mark Roland (@MarkLafreniere) July 16, 2019
― j., Wednesday, 17 July 2019 20:11 (four years ago) link
― cheese canopy (map), Wednesday, 17 July 2019 21:02 (four years ago) link
I'm not sure if this is supposed to be taken seriously or not but it actually seems like a decent explanation for a lot
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/08/what-if-donald-trump-is-just-blind.html
― frogbs, Tuesday, 6 August 2019 22:13 (four years ago) link
can probably pinpoint exactly when it happened
https://cdn.geekwire.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/Screen-Shot-2017-08-21-at-3.18.40-PM-630x530.png
― frogbs, Tuesday, 6 August 2019 22:21 (four years ago) link
this is surreal and i feel like it should be more known about somehow
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeQOJZ-QzBk
― global tetrahedron, Thursday, 8 August 2019 14:00 (four years ago) link
compare and contrast this run-of-the-mill dumbass to the honking oaf currently in the oval office and tell me he's not seriously impaired
― Criss Angel Raw: The Mindfreak Unplugged (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 8 August 2019 14:07 (four years ago) link
that's another aspect that's notable. his analysis is like an 8th grader but it at least implies critical thinking skills and his speech is mostly lucid
― global tetrahedron, Thursday, 8 August 2019 14:13 (four years ago) link
his vocabulary and rhetorical techniques are still as limited
"The word Rosebud has captivated movie goers, and movie watchers, for so many years, and to this day is perhaps the single word."
― quelle sprocket damage (sic), Thursday, 8 August 2019 17:39 (four years ago) link
last night I had a dream that Donald Trump was in my living room and I choked him to death by shoving a giant pile of used kleenex down his throat. For some reason he did not struggle. Then I threw his body in the street.
― Οὖτις, Friday, 9 August 2019 14:57 (four years ago) link
classic shakey
― mookieproof, Friday, 9 August 2019 15:06 (four years ago) link
not a single tissue voter I see
― brownie, Friday, 9 August 2019 15:45 (four years ago) link
maybe it's time to buy one of those little wastebaskets
― j., Friday, 9 August 2019 15:52 (four years ago) link
https://previews.123rf.com/images/viaire/viaire1612/viaire161200018/67574302--ard-with-inscription-wake-up-and-make-your-dreams-come-true-stars-moon-arrows-in-a-trendy-calligrap.jpg
― Criss Angel Raw: The Mindfreak Unplugged (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 9 August 2019 16:01 (four years ago) link
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/6IumGbCkXdo/maxresdefault.jpg
― Come and Rock Me, Hot Potatoes (Old Lunch), Friday, 9 August 2019 16:06 (four years ago) link
So, consensus is building around dud?
― Rumspringsteen (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 9 August 2019 16:23 (four years ago) link
in the words of my dumbass cousin, a week after the election: "i think people should give him a chance!"
― Karl Malone, Friday, 9 August 2019 16:40 (four years ago) link
i'll give him a chance to eat some kleenex
― bookmarkflaglink (jim in vancouver), Friday, 9 August 2019 16:40 (four years ago) link
If by 'a chance' you mean 'a two-minute head start before releasing the slavering hounds' then I'll allow it. I'm not a total monster.
― Come and Rock Me, Hot Potatoes (Old Lunch), Friday, 9 August 2019 16:48 (four years ago) link
the slavering hounds are his supporters iirc tho
― Criss Angel Raw: The Mindfreak Unplugged (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 9 August 2019 16:49 (four years ago) link
Oh sorry, I'm talking about the literal slavering hounds I have penned on the private island where I indulge my sinister whims. Should've been clearer.
― Come and Rock Me, Hot Potatoes (Old Lunch), Friday, 9 August 2019 16:51 (four years ago) link
He was a winnerWho became the doggies' dinnerSad!
― Come and Rock Me, Hot Potatoes (Old Lunch), Friday, 9 August 2019 16:52 (four years ago) link
he never meant that much to me / poor Donnie
― The Ravishing of ROFL Stein (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 9 August 2019 16:56 (four years ago) link
the nations old men steam/when donnie blurts a twitter stream
― Hunt3r, Friday, 9 August 2019 19:35 (four years ago) link
― Rumspringsteen (Ye Mad Puffin)
lmfao
― flappy bird, Saturday, 10 August 2019 05:36 (four years ago) link
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, June 11, 2019 4:58 PM (two months ago) bookmarkflaglink
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, June 25, 2019 7:27 AM (one month ago) bookmarkflaglink
40 now!
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 21 August 2019 23:50 (four years ago) link
Xp 2 weeks ago
Too insecure to wear glasses... this is believable. There are immature baby boomers that still make fun of people for liking video games.
― ilm jive mind (FlopsyDuck), Thursday, 22 August 2019 00:19 (four years ago) link
Google search for “Obama bizarre”:477,000 resultsGoogle search for “Bush bizarre”:909,000 resultsGoogle search for “Trump bizarre”: 228,000,000 results
― circa1916, Thursday, 22 August 2019 00:54 (four years ago) link
Wonder how long before we hit the quarter billion mark.
― circa1916, Thursday, 22 August 2019 00:56 (four years ago) link
http://985thejewel.com/wp-content/uploads/35441927080_5612a67c03_z.jpg
― ilm jive mind (FlopsyDuck), Thursday, 22 August 2019 00:58 (four years ago) link
About 253,000,000 results (0.46 seconds)
― an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Thursday, 22 August 2019 01:10 (four years ago) link
rip omc
― maura, Thursday, 22 August 2019 01:59 (four years ago) link
"Buy The Rights" is such a perfect unused Trump Tweet exclamation.
― frustration and wonky passion (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 22 August 2019 03:49 (four years ago) link
I'm not inherently against a trade war with China, but Trump is playing this one really badly
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 23 August 2019 16:14 (four years ago) link
you are hereby ordered not to think that
― Karl Malone, Friday, 23 August 2019 16:47 (four years ago) link
i'm thinking dud!!!
― omar little, Friday, 23 August 2019 16:55 (four years ago) link
G7 is gonna be lit fam
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 23 August 2019 17:00 (four years ago) link
bolsonaro is a strong, good leader, very strong. macron and merkel are wrong to think that the amazon burning down is an emergency
― Karl Malone, Friday, 23 August 2019 17:05 (four years ago) link
fake news those are bonsai trees and candles
― omar little, Friday, 23 August 2019 17:09 (four years ago) link
They should have raked the floor.
― frustration and wonky passion (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 23 August 2019 17:10 (four years ago) link
planet earth: too big to fail
― the public eating of beans (Sparkle Motion), Friday, 23 August 2019 17:24 (four years ago) link
Maybe the other G7s will hold him down tomorrow night and beat him with bars of soap wrapped in towels.
― The Chronicles of Ermagerd (WmC), Friday, 23 August 2019 22:54 (four years ago) link
The question I was asked most today by fellow World Leaders, who think the USA is doing so well and is stronger than ever before, happens to be, “Mr. President, why does the American media hate your Country so much? Why are they rooting for it to fail?”— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) August 25, 2019
― Karl Malone, Sunday, 25 August 2019 17:37 (four years ago) link
Are you sure they didn't say Sir?
― StanM, Sunday, 25 August 2019 17:41 (four years ago) link
seems legit
― lowkey goatsed on the styx (bizarro gazzara), Sunday, 25 August 2019 17:52 (four years ago) link
that's an excellent example of a restrictive clause!
― rob, Sunday, 25 August 2019 17:52 (four years ago) link
picking up strong Paul Harvey vibes from that one, can't explain why
― the public eating of beans (Sparkle Motion), Sunday, 25 August 2019 18:14 (four years ago) link
and that boy, who nobody liked, grew up to be...donald trump
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Sunday, 25 August 2019 18:33 (four years ago) link
our big boy is in a good mood today. wishing regis philbin, sean connery, and vince mcmahon a happy birthday, and he's excited that jesse watters is engaged!
― global tetrahedron, Sunday, 25 August 2019 18:47 (four years ago) link
SCOOP: President Trump has suggested multiple times to senior Homeland Security and national security officials that they explore using nuclear bombs to stop hurricanes from hitting the United States. https://t.co/4vidIuiijA— Axios (@axios) August 25, 2019
― mookieproof, Sunday, 25 August 2019 23:52 (four years ago) link
OK... at least that's so completely stupid and insane that no one else around him could ever think otherwise
― flappy bird, Monday, 26 August 2019 01:43 (four years ago) link
never say never
A different senior administration official, who has been briefed on the president's hurricane bombing suggestion, defended Trump's idea and said it was no cause for alarm. "His goal — to keep a catastrophic hurricane from hitting the mainland — is not bad," the official said. "His objective is not bad."
― The Ravishing of ROFL Stein (Hadrian VIII), Monday, 26 August 2019 04:29 (four years ago) link
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/aug/26/donald-trump-suggests-nuking-hurricanes-to-stop-them-hitting-america-report
Shortly after Trump came to power National Geographic published an article pointing out how frequent the idea of nuking hurricanes has been over the last few decades: “It’s an appealing thought, especially when, during hurricane season, we’re annually reminded of the immense destruction wrought by these storms.
“And it’s probably why, every year for the past six decades, government agencies have received missives from concerned citizens, urging preemptive attacks against hurricanes using nuclear weapons.”
I...got nothing.
― michael schenker group is no laughing matter (Matt #2), Monday, 26 August 2019 08:59 (four years ago) link
The solution is simple: we must build a wall against hurricanes, but make the hurricanes pay for it!
www.AlBroccoli2020.gov
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Monday, 26 August 2019 11:54 (four years ago) link
tbf hurricanes used to respect the United States, but that was before Obama
― The Ravishing of ROFL Stein (Hadrian VIII), Monday, 26 August 2019 12:06 (four years ago) link
Can we organize some bots to @ him about the importance of jamming forks into wall sockets?
― McGrief the Crying Dog (Old Lunch), Monday, 26 August 2019 12:12 (four years ago) link
And how liberals want to take away everyone's right to jam a fork into a wall socket? That part is important.
― McGrief the Crying Dog (Old Lunch), Monday, 26 August 2019 12:13 (four years ago) link
The story by Axios that President Trump wanted to blow up large hurricanes with nuclear weapons prior to reaching shore is ridiculous. I never said this. Just more FAKE NEWS!— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) August 26, 2019
Denial-as-confirmation: check.Speaking of himself in the third person: check.Dumbass catch phrase that makes his cultboys jack themselves like chimps: check.
― shared unit of analysis (unperson), Monday, 26 August 2019 12:26 (four years ago) link
Meanwhile, we read about his most recent inanity and jack ourselves like beautiful and graceful giraffes.
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Monday, 26 August 2019 12:37 (four years ago) link
yeah after that tweet I'm 100% convinced this is true
original reporter stands by it
― frogbs, Monday, 26 August 2019 13:42 (four years ago) link
I'm sure there's a discrete mental disorder wherein one speaks extemporaneously like a three-year-old with no conception of how the world works and then vehemently denounces ever having said those things once it's pointed out how profoundly wrong + stupid those things are and never learning from this process at all...but I'm not sure what mental disorder that is.
― McGrief the Crying Dog (Old Lunch), Monday, 26 August 2019 13:56 (four years ago) link
I still think it's funny how he's best friends with everyone when they're in the same room as him but as soon as they're gone he's the Twitter warrior again
― StanM, Monday, 26 August 2019 14:03 (four years ago) link
It's because he's a fucking coward like every telephone tough guy ever. You gotta play it cool when you're in a room full of people who have every reason to want to punch your teeth down your throat, president or not.
― McGrief the Crying Dog (Old Lunch), Monday, 26 August 2019 14:08 (four years ago) link
That footage of dude walking away from the G7 podium, he can barely stand up straight. He looks like a lumbering old ape.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 26 August 2019 17:15 (four years ago) link
🚨 SCOOP: Madeleine Westerhout, Trump’s personal assistant, was fired after bragging to reporters that she had a better relationship w/ Trump than his own daughters and POTUS did not like being in pictures w/ Tiffany because he thought she was overweight. https://t.co/Hpyhh7I1b4— Daniel Lippman (@dlippman) August 30, 2019
he's finally acknowledging her!!! a day of love
― j., Saturday, 31 August 2019 02:48 (four years ago) link
"overweight"
more than ever I feel this man is a dud
― flappy bird, Saturday, 31 August 2019 05:16 (four years ago) link
i understand jabba the hutt was rarely pictured with salacious crumb for similar reasons
― lowkey goatsed on the styx (bizarro gazzara), Saturday, 31 August 2019 06:17 (four years ago) link
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/31/us/politics/trump-twitter.html
finally, we can get to the real problem
But for people who care about the English language and how best to use it, President Trump’s continual flouting of even basic writing conventions is a serious matter indeed.
― j., Saturday, 31 August 2019 20:48 (four years ago) link
I hear the pedant vote is very important in the suburbs of Madison, WI and might be enough to swing the state blue.
― A is for (Aimless), Saturday, 31 August 2019 20:51 (four years ago) link
trump's a dud is my two cents
― cheese canopy (map), Saturday, 31 August 2019 20:53 (four years ago) link
Has this been posted elsewhere on ilx?
Compare and contrast: Trump speaking during his June 2015 campaign launch speech vs. Trump speaking today pic.twitter.com/TTG5EArhJZ— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) August 29, 2019
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 31 August 2019 22:59 (four years ago) link
couldn't have conceived of it
― j., Saturday, 31 August 2019 23:02 (four years ago) link
I don't know, what's so strange about the second clip? he just sounds tired and looks a lot older like all presidents do after a few years. didn't he just get back from the G7? he's probably just wrecked. I mean there's plenty of other examples of him doing straight up word salad, that's just like bored and tired
― flappy bird, Saturday, 31 August 2019 23:32 (four years ago) link
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 1 September 2019 04:05 (four years ago) link
he just sounds tired and looks a lot older like all presidents do after a few years
The Trumpers boasting about how Yam is the first president to get better looking/age in reverse since taking office are really searching for things to praise him for.
― a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 1 September 2019 04:19 (four years ago) link
Trumpers boasting about how Yam is the first president to get better looking
^Basic ground-floor cult-of-personality type propaganda. Joseph "Man of Steel" Jughashvili would understand perfectly.
― A is for (Aimless), Sunday, 1 September 2019 06:27 (four years ago) link
I have not forgotten that when it was announced that I was going to do The Apprentice, and when it then became a big hit, helping NBC’s failed lineup greatly, @DebraMessing came up to me at an Upfront & profusely thanked me, even calling me “Sir.” How times have changed!— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) September 1, 2019
― global tetrahedron, Sunday, 1 September 2019 14:30 (four years ago) link
Assistant tweeter is really getting the hang of his speech patterns, not so much the shit spelling and grammar.
― michael schenker group is no laughing matter (Matt #2), Sunday, 1 September 2019 15:17 (four years ago) link
it’s true, starring in a successful television show and murdering children in concentration camps are the same and should be celebrated as such
― Gareth Jones, Godzilla’s assistant (bizarro gazzara), Sunday, 1 September 2019 15:22 (four years ago) link
When it was announced sometime in mid-late 2003, and then but somehow also at the same time when it became a hit in Jan-Feb 2004, Debra Messing approached him at an upfront in May of some unspecified year with tears in her eyes and called him Sir, because his TV show that had about 20 million viewers was on the same network as her TV show that had about 20 million viewers.
― quelle sprocket damage (sic), Sunday, 1 September 2019 17:36 (four years ago) link
IIRC, NBC was still doing pretty well then, so if anything The Apprentice hurt them in the long run.
― a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 1 September 2019 17:39 (four years ago) link
Yeah, The Apprentice was one of those genius moves by Jeff Zucker that prioritized what was cheap and succesful in the short run, while in the end running the network into the ground. It was definitely a succes, but the idea that NBCs 'lineup' was failing in 2003, or that they got better in the next years, is... Well, why even bother pointing it out...
― Frederik B, Sunday, 1 September 2019 17:50 (four years ago) link
President Donald Trump on the existence of Category 5 hurricanes, 2017-2019. pic.twitter.com/IRRny20hfp— Daniel Dale (@ddale8) September 1, 2019
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Sunday, 1 September 2019 19:37 (four years ago) link
That narcissistic way of making everything about him. His perspective. What he knows about weather, and the unsaid assumption that we should be impressed because he’s never heard of fill-in-the-blank. Kind of annoying! Dud.
― beard papa, Sunday, 1 September 2019 19:43 (four years ago) link
that's the ultimate
― i am also larry mullen jr (Karl Malone), Sunday, 1 September 2019 20:54 (four years ago) link
His arse is a category 5 about to make landfall
― FUCK YOUR POTATO (Neanderthal), Sunday, 1 September 2019 20:55 (four years ago) link
no one has ever seen it, it's not great, very incredible
― i am also larry mullen jr (Karl Malone), Sunday, 1 September 2019 21:05 (four years ago) link
it generates from very strong winds
― The Ravishing of ROFL Stein (Hadrian VIII), Sunday, 1 September 2019 21:13 (four years ago) link
some very
If they shut off those troublesome wind turbines, the hurricane would probably die down
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Sunday, 1 September 2019 22:10 (four years ago) link
Keep the turbines on, and the hurricane can die from cancer!
And afterwards, Trump will cure cancer.
― a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 1 September 2019 22:21 (four years ago) link
with nukes
aimed at the Tropic of Cancer, because that's where cancer originates
or so many people are saying
― And the wind... cries... Larry (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 2 September 2019 13:07 (four years ago) link
i think of it all the time, if only that stupid fucking show had failed....
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 2 September 2019 23:17 (four years ago) link
Someone commented that Donald Trump stands like a centaur without its hind legs, and now I can't unsee it. https://t.co/3g6SCtiIbU— Nathan W (@N8TechTweetz) September 3, 2019
― j., Wednesday, 4 September 2019 15:29 (four years ago) link
Look, you try being a shoggoth stuffed into the hollowed-out flesh suit of a Trump and we'll see how convincingly you stand upright as if you were an actual human being.
― Time to Make a Pizza Pact! (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 4 September 2019 15:41 (four years ago) link
Funny pic but not real. Read further down the reddit thread to find the unshopped version. They're still hideous monsters.
― Yelploaf, Wednesday, 4 September 2019 16:02 (four years ago) link
there are over a million subreddits, let alone threads
― quelle sprocket damage (sic), Wednesday, 4 September 2019 18:58 (four years ago) link
i found this https://imgflip.com/gif/39n2dj
― wasdnuos (abanana), Wednesday, 4 September 2019 23:37 (four years ago) link
did karl make that
― american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 4 September 2019 23:40 (four years ago) link
i don't care what's real, reality is unreal
― j., Wednesday, 4 September 2019 23:47 (four years ago) link
nope! I probably would have added stink waves or something
― I am also Harl (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 4 September 2019 23:47 (four years ago) link
OK, so they made him slightly fatter but *his posture is still insane*.
― shared unit of analysis (unperson), Thursday, 5 September 2019 02:40 (four years ago) link
or the back part of a two person horse costume
― maura, Thursday, 5 September 2019 14:00 (four years ago) link
How is this even possible pic.twitter.com/aM4BZs9IZ7— Anime Terese (@banalplay) September 8, 2019
― j., Sunday, 8 September 2019 02:02 (four years ago) link
Maybe he uses some experimental exosuit to stand upright and walk, like Batman in Kingdom Come.
― beard papa, Sunday, 8 September 2019 03:20 (four years ago) link
I can’t imagine what this guy looks like when the dyes, hair glues, amphetamines, and mech suits aren’t holding him together.
― circa1916, Sunday, 8 September 2019 03:43 (four years ago) link
Shelf-Butt
― a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 8 September 2019 03:44 (four years ago) link
our steatopygous president
― A is for (Aimless), Sunday, 8 September 2019 03:47 (four years ago) link
Not Entirely Safe For Work Illustration By R. Crumb About This Phenomena
― a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 8 September 2019 03:48 (four years ago) link
There’s a response to that tweet that mentions a medical condition sometimes caused by obesity that results in a messed up spine and will leave you looking like that. I but it.
― dan selzer, Sunday, 8 September 2019 12:06 (four years ago) link
on balance i would say dud
― plax (ico), Sunday, 8 September 2019 12:08 (four years ago) link
Some fun quotes in here.
"No one knows what to expect from him anymore," one former White House official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss internal conversations about the president, told Insider.They added: "His mood changes from one minute to the next based on some headline or tweet, and the next thing you know his entire schedule gets tossed out the window because he's losing his s---."..."People are used to the president saying things that aren't true, but this Alabama stuff is another story," the former official said. "This was the president sending out patently false information about a national-emergency situation as it was unfolding."..."He's deteriorating in plain sight," one Republican strategist who's in frequent contact with the White House told Insider on Friday.Asked why the president was obsessed with Alabama instead of the states that would actually be affected by the storm, the strategist said, "you should ask a psychiatrist about that; I'm not sure I'm qualified to comment."...Indeed, one person who was close to Trump's legal team during the Russia investigation told Insider his public statements were "nothing compared to what he's like behind closed doors.""He's like a bull seeing red," this person added. "There's just no getting through to him, and you can kiss your plans for the day goodbye because you're basically stuck looking after a 4-year-old now."
They added: "His mood changes from one minute to the next based on some headline or tweet, and the next thing you know his entire schedule gets tossed out the window because he's losing his s---."
"People are used to the president saying things that aren't true, but this Alabama stuff is another story," the former official said. "This was the president sending out patently false information about a national-emergency situation as it was unfolding."
"He's deteriorating in plain sight," one Republican strategist who's in frequent contact with the White House told Insider on Friday.
Asked why the president was obsessed with Alabama instead of the states that would actually be affected by the storm, the strategist said, "you should ask a psychiatrist about that; I'm not sure I'm qualified to comment."
Indeed, one person who was close to Trump's legal team during the Russia investigation told Insider his public statements were "nothing compared to what he's like behind closed doors."
"He's like a bull seeing red," this person added. "There's just no getting through to him, and you can kiss your plans for the day goodbye because you're basically stuck looking after a 4-year-old now."
― shared unit of analysis (unperson), Sunday, 8 September 2019 14:35 (four years ago) link
He's the best at being dud, so... classic dud!
― StanM, Sunday, 8 September 2019 16:21 (four years ago) link
how many times has that article been written
― global tetrahedron, Sunday, 8 September 2019 17:03 (four years ago) link
would you say....he is becoming increasingly isolated
― frogbs, Sunday, 8 September 2019 17:08 (four years ago) link
sure, but more than that i'd say this is the week he really became...unhinged
― I am also Harl (Karl Malone), Sunday, 8 September 2019 17:11 (four years ago) link
Like a dinosaur
― FUCK YOUR POTATO (Neanderthal), Sunday, 8 September 2019 17:20 (four years ago) link
What kind of dinosaur tho?
― pomenitul, Sunday, 8 September 2019 17:35 (four years ago) link
One with dementia
― FUCK YOUR POTATO (Neanderthal), Sunday, 8 September 2019 17:36 (four years ago) link
i do think he's gotten worse over the last month or two though
― global tetrahedron, Sunday, 8 September 2019 17:38 (four years ago) link
To the Pencemobile!
― A is for (Aimless), Sunday, 8 September 2019 18:00 (four years ago) link
someone on twitter posited that the alabama thing was from him misreading “bahamas” either because of deteriorating vision or lessened brain function. it tracks tbh
― maura, Sunday, 8 September 2019 21:54 (four years ago) link
that's what I've assumed
― now let's play big lunch take little lunch (sic), Sunday, 8 September 2019 22:47 (four years ago) link
I had nothing to do with the decision of our great @VP Mike Pence to stay overnight at one of the Trump owned resorts in Doonbeg, Ireland. Mike’s family has lived in Doonbeg for many years, and he thought that during his very busy European visit, he would stop and see his family!— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) September 9, 2019
I know nothing about an Air Force plane landing at an airport (which I do not own and have nothing to do with) near Turnberry Resort (which I do own) in Scotland, and filling up with fuel, with the crew staying overnight at Turnberry (they have good taste!). NOTHING TO DO WITH ME— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) September 9, 2019
― shared unit of analysis (unperson), Monday, 9 September 2019 15:35 (four years ago) link
(they have good taste!). NOTHING TO DO WITH ME
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Monday, 9 September 2019 15:38 (four years ago) link
You know what could have avoided all this, Mr. President? Divestiture after you were elected.
― A is for (Aimless), Monday, 9 September 2019 15:41 (four years ago) link
i has nothing to do with it but i will be profiting from it regardless, nbd
― don’t bore us, get to the aeon of horus (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 9 September 2019 15:41 (four years ago) link
i like that Some More News video that points out he has major conflicts of interest and all he's doing with it is minor grift like selling shitty hats
― wasdnuos (abanana), Monday, 9 September 2019 16:19 (four years ago) link
.@realDonaldTrump honors mass shooting heroes #MAGA2020 pic.twitter.com/1F0oWCxidH— Prophet Victor Berger IV (@VicBergerIV) September 9, 2019
― shared unit of analysis (unperson), Monday, 9 September 2019 19:45 (four years ago) link
― circa1916, Saturday, September 7, 2019 11:43 PM (six days ago) bookmarkflaglink
the sloth victim from Se7en
― flappy bird, Friday, 13 September 2019 20:43 (four years ago) link
lmao @ that Vic Berger video
― frogbs, Friday, 13 September 2019 20:47 (four years ago) link
Srsly. There needs to be way more people making fun of Trump supporters.
― DJI, Saturday, 14 September 2019 16:47 (four years ago) link
President Trump’s vision is deeply impaired and he refuses to wear corrective lenses in the presence of other people, NYT casually reports halfway down a long feature about his twitter use. https://t.co/jU20PVKevu pic.twitter.com/20ngKyghmk— southpaw (@nycsouthpaw) November 2, 2019
― j., Saturday, 2 November 2019 18:01 (four years ago) link
It is just part and parcel of his determination to pretend to have abilities that he does not possess.
― A is for (Aimless), Saturday, 2 November 2019 18:04 (four years ago) link
Does this explain covfefe? Is Scavino multi-tasking in the closet?
― lefal junglist platton (wtev), Sunday, 3 November 2019 08:08 (four years ago) link
The vision thing has been out there for ages. He's always squinting at the teleprompter (which they put large text on for him)
― ت (jim in vancouver), Sunday, 3 November 2019 08:18 (four years ago) link
yet more proof that ashley feinberg is our greatest living reporter
EVERYONE SHOULD ALWAYS LISTEN TO ME https://t.co/dwxJImuX7E https://t.co/z2yEMksoMg— Ashley Feinberg (@ashleyfeinberg) November 2, 2019
― non-euclidean lenin (bizarro gazzara), Sunday, 3 November 2019 16:12 (four years ago) link
But Donald Trump has been hostile toward adept stair users since at least 2014.
hahahahahaha
― j., Sunday, 3 November 2019 16:21 (four years ago) link
https://medium.com/@DrGJackBrown/body-language-analysis-4382-why-is-donald-trump-leaning-forward-29a69fa4e742
Donald Trump is standing with this posture — primarily because he has specially crafted, ‘lift shoes’. His added 2.5–3.5 inch heel-height causes him to lean forward. This configuration is accentuated by his obesity.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 5 November 2019 05:13 (four years ago) link
Instead of using durasteel for his leg prosthesis, the medical droids had substituted an inferior alloy, and had failed to inspect the strips that protected the electromotive lines. As a result, the inner lining of the pressurized bodysuit was continually snagging on places where the strips were anchored to knee and ankle joints. Additionally, the tall boots were a poor fit for his artificial feet, whose toes lacked the electrostatic sensitivity of his equally false fingertips. These devices made it even more difficult for him to move with ease, much less with any grace. Raised in the heel, the cumbersome footwear canted him slightly forward, forcing him to move with exaggerated caution lest he stumble or topple over. Worse, they were so heavy that he often felt rooted to the ground, or as if he were moving in high gravity. He even felt that he needed to use the Force to move,[18] though he eventually grew used to it.[7] As a result of his large body and abnormal needs, Vader had to have a custom airspeeder made for him to drive comfortably in.[46]
― difficult listening hour, Tuesday, 5 November 2019 05:20 (four years ago) link
marvellous
― j., Tuesday, 5 November 2019 05:22 (four years ago) link
Just add those lift shoes to the already overwhelming pile of evidence that Trump is insecure and compensates proportionately. However, he has many other even less attractive personality and character traits that have far more bearing on how awful a person he is, so this analysis shrinks in importance compared to those worse traits he displays almost daily.
― A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 5 November 2019 05:26 (four years ago) link
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/71/c5/f3/71c5f3201f10372ad8bcd9316cef7750.jpg
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 5 November 2019 05:27 (four years ago) link
http://miro.medium.com/max/2400/1*ng-9sQSjiI7k96KalIXdyg.png
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 5 November 2019 05:29 (four years ago) link
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-ws8ND2ngb9M/TsmWaTYz-7I/AAAAAAAAC1M/3ThvTfJzczc/s1600/Big-Boy.jpg
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 5 November 2019 05:38 (four years ago) link
pic.twitter.com/gM0f0r7nEE— No Context Fox News (@nocontext_fox) November 5, 2019
too much Jimmy Savile energy in this one for that humour thread!
― calzino, Tuesday, 5 November 2019 09:13 (four years ago) link
ctrl-f "Trump" on Google News homepage: 37 results
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 23:30 (four years ago) link
Hate to say it but I think this guys a dud
― “Hakuna Matata,” a nihilist philosophy (One Eye Open), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 23:47 (four years ago) link
We asked: what shade was the makeup? "Una naranja espantosa," one of the housekeepers said. https://t.co/AXEkHBvgPX— David Fahrenthold (@Fahrenthold) December 4, 2019
― j., Wednesday, 4 December 2019 21:41 (four years ago) link
only monsters require ironed underwear
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 4 December 2019 22:04 (four years ago) link
The president: "Sinks. Showers. And what goes with a sink and a shower?" Crowd: "TOILETS!" The president: "Ten times. Right? Ten times." He adds, "Not me, of course, not me. But you."— Daniel Dale (@ddale8) December 19, 2019
― j., Thursday, 19 December 2019 03:16 (four years ago) link
oh my god
― Suggest Banshee (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 19 December 2019 03:17 (four years ago) link
So far this month, the president has claimed that modern efficient toilets require people to flush 10 or 15 times and modern efficient dishwashers require people to press buttons 12 times. https://t.co/SyzVcHxWyv— Daniel Dale (@ddale8) December 19, 2019
― Suggest Banshee (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 19 December 2019 03:22 (four years ago) link
I meant this one
Trump says that you used to press a dishwasher once and it was an "explosion" and five minutes later steam would come out. "Now you press it 12 times. Women tell me."Women tell me.— Daniel Dale (@ddale8) December 19, 2019
― Suggest Banshee (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 19 December 2019 03:23 (four years ago) link
now he's saying his turds are small?
― Bublé in the changer, I wish I was dead (Neanderthal), Thursday, 19 December 2019 03:26 (four years ago) link
Trump says F-35 pilots are better-looking than Tom Cruise, who is a good guy, with "equal" faces but better bodies.— Daniel Dale (@ddale8) December 19, 2019
― Suggest Banshee (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 19 December 2019 03:31 (four years ago) link
xp or he means the crowd will now be responsible for flushing his own
― Suggest Banshee (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 19 December 2019 03:38 (four years ago) link
I can't help but laugh at the toilet and dishwasher lines, although not in a "tell it like it is" way he's going for
― mh, Thursday, 19 December 2019 18:33 (four years ago) link
turns out the rumored pee tape was actually just footage of him flushing for the 12th time
― Peaceful Warrior I Poser (Karl Malone), Thursday, 19 December 2019 18:34 (four years ago) link
Trump neurologically malfunctions w/ a full spasm. Note his shoulders involuntarily jerk as he slurs. Thx @karenamyatt & @ChuckWa74233336 for the heads up. Trump desperately needs a neurological eval at a quality facility like the Mayo Clinic. Not Walter Reed which reports to WH pic.twitter.com/ct6S5Pln2d— Tom Joseph (@TomJChicago) December 22, 2019
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Sunday, 22 December 2019 20:40 (four years ago) link
― k3vin k., Sunday, 22 December 2019 20:43 (four years ago) link
urgent neuro eval!!
My background is running technology & finance businesses in Chicago & Silicon Valley and technology/biotech investing. I’ve said a number of times on Twitter that I am not a physician. Additionally, I have said hundreds of times that Trump should receive a neurological exam, workup and evaluation at a top facility like the Mayo Clinic or Johns Hopkins. In the absence of him receiving a proper medical diagnosis, raising public awareness is necessary to expose the obvious coverup of his health condition.
― But guess what? Nobody gives a toot!😂 (Karl Malone), Sunday, 22 December 2019 20:44 (four years ago) link
― ingredience (map), Sunday, 22 December 2019 21:16 (four years ago) link
A neurological malfunction during Infrastructure Week leaves Trump increasingly isolated, but hey! Bacon!
― A is for (Aimless), Sunday, 22 December 2019 21:32 (four years ago) link
it would be pretty amazing to see him stroke out in the middle of one of his horseshit lies
― the public eating of beans (Sparkle Motion), Sunday, 22 December 2019 21:57 (four years ago) link
So how do events like the neurological malfunction play out in the US media (asking from the UK)? Fake news?
― lefal junglist platton (wtev), Sunday, 22 December 2019 22:01 (four years ago) link
The US news media, ime (including commercial TV news, print newspapers and NPR radio), does not report on his physical condition at all, and treats his insane and illiterate rageblurts as "the president spoke harshly" or "the president struck back" or 'the president issued a statement" etc without remarking on the illiteracy or incoherency or illegality of the content. Somehow this is regarded as a matter only for opinion writers.
― insecurity bear (sic), Sunday, 22 December 2019 22:14 (four years ago) link
I looked at that "malfunction" clip and was not convinced. He was blurting stuff out impromptu, as he always does at his rallies, and therefore he was just mindlessly stringing his favorite clichéd words and phrases together when he suddenly realized he was about to wish everyone a "beautiful" something- his next intended word seemed to be either 'Christmas' or more likely 'holidays' - because his brain veers instantly to the stupid "war on Christmas" crap he knows will go down well with the crowd, so he zaps the word halfway out of his mouth and quickly shifts his confused tongue into a whole different sentence.
The midline shift in "thinking" comes out of his mouth as "bzzphtht" or some such, like Bill the Cat. But it wasn't a seizure or spasm, just a normal Trumpian brain fart.
― A is for (Aimless), Sunday, 22 December 2019 22:45 (four years ago) link
I'm not convinced either, but it's the upper-body jerk the guy's referring to as a dementia spasm, not the verbal/brainfart
― insecurity bear (sic), Sunday, 22 December 2019 23:15 (four years ago) link
there's no such thing as a "dementia spasm", all this armchair quarterbacking of neurological symptoms is a blend of wishful thinking and concern trolling
― an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Sunday, 22 December 2019 23:28 (four years ago) link
Mayo Clinic is the first result, guess that's why dude wants Trump to get checked up there: they're in on the conspiracy
― insecurity bear (sic), Sunday, 22 December 2019 23:34 (four years ago) link
xpostBut how can that be? The neurologist who diagnosed it on Twitter has a background in running technology & finance businesses in Chicago & Silicon Valley and technology/biotech investing!
― But guess what? Nobody gives a toot!😂 (Karl Malone), Sunday, 22 December 2019 23:57 (four years ago) link
if he were to die before the impeachment goes into full gear, do dems bring new evidence against pence or just throw up their hands and say GAWRSH alright you get a year
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 23 December 2019 00:23 (four years ago) link
that tweet is such bullshit jeez talk about overselling....the responses are unreal. every time I dip my toe in centrist #resistance Twitter I get so profoundly scared about the electionthey are either credulous idiots or hucksters or usually both
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 23 December 2019 00:35 (four years ago) link
who was that dude who was hopped up on stimulants who made the EPIC twitter thread at the beginning of the Trump era? the one that was credulously retweeted by a bunch of people who thought it captured the zeitgeist
I mean, it did, because it was all the work of some armchair cowboy who mainlined a bunch of stimulants and went into epic thread mode pointing to all the ephemeral, dumb conspiracy angles that people jump on instead of battling the constant raging incompetence and malevolence
― mh, Monday, 23 December 2019 01:24 (four years ago) link
otm
― sleeve, Monday, 23 December 2019 01:26 (four years ago) link
the main legacy of the Trump era, outside of pulling back the curtain on the voting public and making us question why we make the choices we do, is going to be the institutional shift
as much as the public eye has concentrated on shady executive order mandates and gross policies proposed by Stephen Miller and his ilk, the hands-off approach is going to affect us in the long term just as much. there are so many understaffed agencies, embassies, and programs that might end up withering on the vine or becoming irrelevant by the time they're filled. I have no idea who is running the show or whether these places are staffed, because something like 1/3 of the appointed roles are empty. I think part of this is intentional on McConnell's part in that many roles that have nominees aren't being put up for approval in the senate and an administration that gave a shit would be pushing on him.
The cynic in me says that maybe some of the backchannel trading and negotiation that happens abroad should have been more closely examined and the fact it just.. can't happen with no one there.. could somehow be a net positive. But I see no indication this is done with any sense of purpose or analysis, just negligence by design and pure negligence.
The Ukraine boondoggle is the one bit that's in the public eye and it's showing how weary the public is of the status quo. Ukraine should be able to buy weapons, because they're a democratic government and being armed would be insurance against an incursion because that's how things are done. But is that how things should be done? Do we know that even works, or that it works in a way we can morally justify? Is it our place to be the world's weapons wholesaler? Nearly everyone that seems to care is objecting because the protocol has been broken, not due to a strong belief in protecting the sovereignty of Ukraine.
Optimistically, we end up examine what we're actually doing as a country, why we do those things, and whether they're effective in pursuing an actual stated goal. And the Trump era gets its silver lining. But I don't see a path where that's happening.
― mh, Monday, 23 December 2019 01:46 (four years ago) link
xxp that would be Eric Garland, I’ll always treasure his follow-up rant about the people mocking him - “you malignant professionals!”
― JoeStork, Monday, 23 December 2019 02:20 (four years ago) link
Garland is p much the goat resistance lib
― xmas respecter (jim in vancouver), Monday, 23 December 2019 02:33 (four years ago) link
eric garland was the "guys, it's time for some game theory" dude. the reactions to his thread were even more gloriously psychotic than the thread itself -- the editor in chief of fuckin' mother jones called it a federalist paper for our time or some nonsense like that.
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Monday, 23 December 2019 02:59 (four years ago) link
sic in that link a muscle spasm is a sustained contraction - causing a lack of movement - rather than the sort of clonic jerk he gave in the video. I still think the armchair neurology is people trying to put a figleaf on their angry opinion, "it's not just that I think he's a fuckwit, I think there is genuinely something neurologically wrong with him so it's out of concern." Nobody with a full on dementia or neurological disorder could sustain the schedule that he follows, even if it's less than other presidents. His speech patterns etc are the product of fatigue because the asshole has never had to actually work before. The other "symptoms" are stupidity, DGAF and a stunning lack of empathy - I mean the psychological "diagnoses" are obvious but he doesn't have a degenerative brain disease unless diagnosed as such.
― an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Monday, 23 December 2019 03:04 (four years ago) link
I don't know or care whether he's seriously ill or just a colossal asshole. That said, if I thought he were seriously ill, I might suggest that the right course of action is NOT to point it out or urge that he get evaluated. Let the tapeworm or whatever eat his brain. Fine with me; no loss.
― Hereward the Woke (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 23 December 2019 03:13 (four years ago) link
I’m on board with that as long as they don’t let him make decisions
― an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Monday, 23 December 2019 03:33 (four years ago) link
you know we have a world, right?
― reggie (qualmsley), Monday, 23 December 2019 03:40 (four years ago) link
-Coldplay
― Bublé in the changer, I wish I was dead (Neanderthal), Monday, 23 December 2019 03:51 (four years ago) link
lolclara jeffr3y has a lot of... moments.. and the eric garland bit was definitely a tell
― mh, Monday, 23 December 2019 03:58 (four years ago) link
The other "symptoms" are stupidity, DGAF and a stunning lack of empathy - I mean the psychological "diagnoses" are obvious but he doesn't have a degenerative brain disease unless diagnosed as such.
Yeah, as I said I'm not cosigning - I stand by my observations of his physical and mental condition over the last few months of threads - just pointing out the actual argument made there, so folks can argue that rather than a strawman. Your list of symptoms are absolutely long-standing and certainly still a massive part of his behaviour, now more widely visible.
His speech patterns etc are the product of fatigue because the asshole has never had to actually work before.
Strongly disagree with this, though. His speech patterns have deteriorated significantly from 2016, and were significantly less focussed then than a decade earlier. (Also in 2016 it was easy to tell when he'd been racking up to focus - the crazy snorting in the debates - and whatever he's on now seems to still work for stamina, but not, or no longer, for concentration.) And it's not like he's doing any work now, he just has to leave the building his apartment is in, sometimes.
(For me, the way he's been almost completely kept from one-on-one conversations also speaks to Miller and his handlers being aware of decline - see also the terrified hostage eyes of the Fox & Friends hosts when he slips the net and spends an hour shouting down the phone at them.)
― insecurity bear (sic), Monday, 23 December 2019 04:25 (four years ago) link
a dementia spasm
― k3vin k., Monday, 23 December 2019 04:31 (four years ago) link
a well described medical phenomenon
qualmsley otm
Trump’s nuts rant about wind energy: “I never understood wind. You know, I know windmills very much... Gases are spewing into the atmosphere. You know we have a world, right? So the world is tiny compared to the universe. So tremendous, tremendous amount of fumes & everything.” pic.twitter.com/DvkJq9NbWg— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) December 23, 2019
― insecurity bear (sic), Monday, 23 December 2019 07:49 (four years ago) link
MatthewK otm
― badg, Tuesday, 24 December 2019 20:40 (four years ago) link
I had a bad night but at least I’m not this guy pic.twitter.com/JktuBA830T— Jemele Hill (@jemelehill) February 3, 2020
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 3 February 2020 13:20 (four years ago) link
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EP0nQEKWoAAy3us.jpg
Juuuuuuust wait.
― Dr. Teeth and the Women (Old Lunch), Monday, 3 February 2020 13:28 (four years ago) link
https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwritersrelief.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2015%2F04%2FToto.gif&f=1&nofb=1
― the main character Cooly and his fart attack (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 3 February 2020 13:30 (four years ago) link
Isn't there another city in the wrong state, I'm sure there is but it's driving me nuts
― plax (ico), Tuesday, 4 February 2020 21:35 (four years ago) link
West New York, New Jersey!
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 4 February 2020 21:39 (four years ago) link
a bunch along the mississippi riverEast St. Louis, Illinois and East Dubuque, Illinois come to mind
― caucus fricked iowa account (mh), Tuesday, 4 February 2020 21:45 (four years ago) link
Missouri City, Texas
― a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 4 February 2020 21:49 (four years ago) link
I’m still not sure what a Texarkana is
― caucus fricked iowa account (mh), Tuesday, 4 February 2020 21:51 (four years ago) link
so sad how they learned US geography when he was absent from school due to bone spurs :(
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 4 February 2020 21:54 (four years ago) link
― a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 4 February 2020 21:49 (five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
Lol this is the one I was referring to I think
― plax (ico), Tuesday, 4 February 2020 21:56 (four years ago) link
Nevada City, California
― Miami weisse (WmC), Tuesday, 4 February 2020 21:58 (four years ago) link
there are like a billion of these
Texarkana, TX, near the border of TEXas, ARKansas, and louisiANA
― But guess what? Nobody gives a toot!😂 (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 4 February 2020 22:03 (four years ago) link
Washington, DC isn't in Washington state
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Tuesday, 4 February 2020 22:07 (four years ago) link
Miami University of Ohio
― Okay, you're an ambulance (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 4 February 2020 22:15 (four years ago) link
New Mexico City, New Mexico
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 4 February 2020 22:38 (four years ago) link
xxp Texarkana is a city in arkansas pretty sure
― caucus fricked iowa account (mh), Tuesday, 4 February 2020 23:48 (four years ago) link
There’s one in both TX and AR. Despite the CCR song “I was down in Louisiana, just about a mile from Texarkana”, there isn’t one in Louisiana
― But guess what? Nobody gives a toot!😂 (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 4 February 2020 23:53 (four years ago) link
I was annoyed as a kid when I learned about Indiana University of Pennsylvania
― rob, Tuesday, 4 February 2020 23:55 (four years ago) link
you can be a mile from a place in another state, justice 4 CCR
― don't care didn't ask still clappin (sic), Tuesday, 4 February 2020 23:56 (four years ago) link
https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Texarkana,+Arkansas+71854/Ida,+Louisiana+71044/
I mean, it's a bit more than a mile but it's not that far.
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 00:19 (four years ago) link
Also, Levon Helm did not in fact serve on the Danville train during the Civil War.
(Johnny Cash did, however, shoot a man in Reno. Just to watch him die. Motherfucker.)
― Okay, you're an ambulance (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 01:10 (four years ago) link
CCR just quoting Leadbelly.
― a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 02:13 (four years ago) link
Paris, Texas
― ill fuckin put a paste on those (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 04:05 (four years ago) link
paris, arkansasparis, missouriparis, illinoisparis, iowa
― But guess what? Nobody gives a toot!😂 (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 04:06 (four years ago) link
paris is like the paris of the midwest
― But guess what? Nobody gives a toot!😂 (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 04:07 (four years ago) link
is this that Wakko song from Animaniacs
― ill fuckin put a paste on those (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 04:07 (four years ago) link
Virginia, MinnesotaIndiana, PennsylvaniaFlorida, Massachusetts
― ill fuckin put a paste on those (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 04:09 (four years ago) link
These are a few of my favorite states
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 05:17 (four years ago) link
I feel like this should be turned into a poll
A man who is braver than me and braver than all of us in this room, he got whacked. He got whacked. My Steve, right? I went to the hospital with our great first lady that night and we saw a man that was not going to make it.
He was not going to make it. I said, she loves you. Why? Because she was devastated. A lot of wives wouldn’t give a damn. I would say, how is he doing? She couldn’t even talk, she was inconsolable. Most wives would say, not good, I’m going home now. The doctor came in and the wife was a total mess. She was really devastated. It really looked like he had a 20, 25 percent chance. I think you set a record for blood loss. And Steve Scalise, I actually — honestly, I think you’re better-looking there. You’re more handsome there. You weren’t that good-looking. You look good now. He looks better now, can you believe it? I don’t know what the hell that is. Better now.
What a guy. He was practicing for the baseball game against — I guess the Democrats, right? And this whack job started shooting, hurt Rogers. I don’t know if Rogers is here, but hurt a number of people. But really hurt Steve. He was the second baseman, and he went down and it was terrible. I saw the whole thing and it was terrible. Fortunately, you had two brave policemen with you because of your high position in Congress. You had two policemen and they were amazing. The man and the woman and they came — they didn’t have rifles. They were supposedly a pretty good sharpshooter with equipment, and all they had was a gun. They started coming in from the outfield, shooting. They were so far away that a handgun is not preferred.
This guy has the rifle and he’s hitting people. He was going to move up and there was no out. The entrance was a single entrance way on the other side from where he was. So everyone ran into the dugout. But Steve was hit really bad in the stomach with a bullet that rips you apart. It rips you apart. And these two people came charging forward, and one of them — you know who? Him? Got the shooter. Hit him. And then got him. Killed him. From a long distance. It was amazing. If you didn’t have those two people, you could imagine, right? You could imagine what would happen.
So Melania and I went to the hospital that night, and he was in such bad shape and he’s been working ever since so hard. Six months ago they had a baseball game at the Nationals’ Park. I was watching on television. It’s a game, you want to win it, right? And Steve is at second base. The poor guy can’t even walk.
Remember Bob Richardson of the New York Yankees? He was known for range. Bobby Richardson is the second player. This was not Steve Scalise. This was not Steve Scalise. This was not Steve Scalise. He had no range. I don’t know who put you on the field. This is a true story.
So the game starts, and the first pitch, Steve is standing at second base and the guy is really in bad shape, and I said, this is terrible. A shot, ground ball shot, is hit to 2nd. I didn’t have time to think too much, but I said, this is not good. That ball is going toward him. And this guy stopped that ball, caught the ball. He’s now laying down. He throws the ball to first base, he gets him out. I said it’s the most incredible thing. I’ve never seen anything like it. Right? [ Applause ]
And he gets him out and they then took him out of the game, which was a very wise thing because you could never do that again in a hundred years. But you weren’t going to let that ball go through. I don’t care if it was hit by the greatest of all time, that ball wasn’t going through because you’re a warrior. Steve, you are fantastic. You and Liz and Kevin, what a group. I got lucky. I got lucky, because you need the right people. If I had the wrong people there, it may be a different story.
Maybe we would be celebrating something else. But I really want to thank you. Steve Scalise. And, Elise [ Stefanik ], I just read this story. It’s most incredible what’s going on with you, Elise. I was up campaigning for helping her and I thought, she looks good, she looks like good talent. But I did not realize when she opens that mouth, you were killing them, Elise. You were killing them. There’s a big story in the new York post. I love the New York Post because they treat me well. There’s not too many that do, but today you’re treating me well.
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 7 February 2020 19:05 (four years ago) link
Most wives would say, not good, I’m going home now (ftw)
― lefal junglist platton (wtev), Friday, 7 February 2020 21:00 (four years ago) link
@realDonaldTrump returns to the White House from Charlotte, North Carolina. Photo by William Moon at the South Lawn of the White House on February 7, 2020 pic.twitter.com/n1a1Z93LrJ— White House Photos (@photowhitehouse) February 7, 2020
― j., Saturday, 8 February 2020 03:27 (four years ago) link
Accidentally snuck a Vic Berger one in there
― frogbs, Saturday, 8 February 2020 03:37 (four years ago) link
that's probably a parody account, right?
― But guess what? Nobody gives a toot!😂 (Karl Malone), Saturday, 8 February 2020 03:43 (four years ago) link
I don’t think whether it’s a parody account or not has any dispositive effect on your clear duty to create a horrifying gif based on the image
― El Tomboto, Saturday, 8 February 2020 03:49 (four years ago) link
i'm not sure what's going on here
https://i.imgur.com/464DqPR.gif
― But guess what? Nobody gives a toot!😂 (Karl Malone), Saturday, 8 February 2020 05:07 (four years ago) link
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-asked-reince-priebus-about-wisconsin-badgers-2020-2
"After Trump was reminded that the short-legged omnivore was practically synonymous with the Badger State, he'd make a point of bringing it up at seemingly random occasions to his beleaguered chief of staff."'Are they mean to people?' Trump at least twice asked Priebus in the opening months of his presidency. 'Or are they friendly creatures?' The president would also ask if Priebus had any photos of badgers he could show him, and if Priebus could carefully explain to him how badgers 'work' exactly."He wanted Reince — resident White House badger historian, apparently — to explain to him Wisconsin's obsession with the animal, how the little critters function and behave, what kind of food they like, and how aggressive or deadly they could be when presented with perceived existential threats."Trump also wanted to know if the badger had a 'personality' or if it was boring. What kind of damage could a badger to do a person with its flashy, sharp claws?
"'Are they mean to people?' Trump at least twice asked Priebus in the opening months of his presidency. 'Or are they friendly creatures?' The president would also ask if Priebus had any photos of badgers he could show him, and if Priebus could carefully explain to him how badgers 'work' exactly.
"He wanted Reince — resident White House badger historian, apparently — to explain to him Wisconsin's obsession with the animal, how the little critters function and behave, what kind of food they like, and how aggressive or deadly they could be when presented with perceived existential threats.
"Trump also wanted to know if the badger had a 'personality' or if it was boring. What kind of damage could a badger to do a person with its flashy, sharp claws?
― j., Thursday, 13 February 2020 03:50 (four years ago) link
saw an apartment today in an old luxury high rise from the 60s. (no longer really considered luxury but still is ok). the broker provided some background on the building, which was unique for brooklyn at the time it was built because it was so large. the name of the bold developer who created it was fred trump.
― treeship., Thursday, 13 February 2020 04:00 (four years ago) link
just read the anecdote about the badger thing. better contribution to the thread than what i wrote
― treeship., Thursday, 13 February 2020 04:01 (four years ago) link
Remember when some twitter parodist convinced hundreds of thousands of people that Trump liked to watch gorillas fighting each other and his staff kept him entertained with a 24-hour a day gorilla cable channel? Turns out he was obsessed with badgers, I guess.
― A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 13 February 2020 04:52 (four years ago) link
the presidency is very powerful, i don't see why he couldn't do both
― j., Thursday, 13 February 2020 05:08 (four years ago) link
just came here to post the badger news, the full breathtaking details of which i think might have given me brain damage
― Homegrown Georgia speedster Ladd McConkey (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 13 February 2020 11:47 (four years ago) link
i mean credit where credit's due, trump saw a chance to troll reince preibus and he took it and i can't say i'd do any different if i had the chance
― Homegrown Georgia speedster Ladd McConkey (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 13 February 2020 11:48 (four years ago) link
I think we should all do whatever we can to help make Donald Trump's clear desire to be surgically-altered into and/or fuck a badger a reality.
― Sammo Hazuki's Tago Mago Cantina (Old Lunch), Thursday, 13 February 2020 12:41 (four years ago) link
How exactly DO badgers "work"? Enquiring minds want to know.
― beelzebubbly (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 13 February 2020 14:05 (four years ago) link
Pulleys and steam iirc
― Sammo Hazuki's Tago Mago Cantina (Old Lunch), Thursday, 13 February 2020 14:09 (four years ago) link
I'm picturing Priebus becoming progressively more irritated as the badger questions continue and am afraid this is actually evidence Trump was doing this as a bit
― mh, Thursday, 13 February 2020 16:55 (four years ago) link
The last three years:
*Donald Trump appoints new advisor/cabinet member*Me: Ugh, looks like he finally found someone ghoulish enough to pledge absolute loyalty*a few months pass**ghoul complains about working under Trump**Trump fires ghoul**Donald Trump appoints new advisor/cabinet member*Me: Ugh, looks like he finally found someone ghoulish enough to pledge absolute loyalty
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 14 February 2020 19:13 (four years ago) link
https://www.washingtonpost.com/religion/2020/02/14/trump-mocks-faith-others-his-own-religious-practices-remain-opaque/
his 'religious practices'
― j., Saturday, 15 February 2020 17:28 (four years ago) link
Commander in dud
― i am a horse girl (map), Saturday, 15 February 2020 23:09 (four years ago) link
going apeshit over this video pic.twitter.com/CbSjKee5Z7— chris (@TonyBeast1957) February 21, 2020
peep trump grimacing at bloomps wolfing down the dirty street meat
― j., Saturday, 22 February 2020 03:41 (four years ago) link
That video is like watching the time lapse decomposition of a gazelle only instead of a gazelle it's western civilization.
― Hot, Now, and Oh-So-Very Wow! (Old Lunch), Saturday, 22 February 2020 03:52 (four years ago) link
major heidecker vibes
― bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Saturday, 22 February 2020 03:58 (four years ago) link
everyone in that video is an awful piece of shit
― Pinche Cumbion Bien Loco (stevie), Saturday, 22 February 2020 07:55 (four years ago) link
did Marilu Henner give extremely specific and accurate evidence against you
― Fantastic. Great move. Well done (sic), Saturday, 22 February 2020 08:10 (four years ago) link
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Saturday, 22 February 2020 13:48 (four years ago) link
i did not recognise Marilu among that slurry of human excrement
― Pinche Cumbion Bien Loco (stevie), Saturday, 22 February 2020 14:42 (four years ago) link
did i even see gene simmons in there too?
― global tetrahedron, Saturday, 22 February 2020 16:37 (four years ago) link
i mean it probably isn't him but he might as well turn up in that, why not
― global tetrahedron, Saturday, 22 February 2020 16:38 (four years ago) link
yes gene was there and tbh that was the final straw for me
― Pinche Cumbion Bien Loco (stevie), Saturday, 22 February 2020 16:38 (four years ago) link
Note the early versions of MAGA Hats the female contestants are wearing.
― a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 22 February 2020 17:13 (four years ago) link
It's perfect red meat for the base that Trump has denounced the foreign winner of the USAmerican Oscars (and one with leftish class politics at that), but the fact that he referenced GONE WITH THE WIND says so much. I mean that movie is even older than he is. The election of Trump was about an America that is dying. Sometimes I fear it is being reborn in new forms, but for the most part I think it actually is dying.
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Sunday, 23 February 2020 04:54 (four years ago) link
for the most part I think it actually is dying
it sure seems to be taking its sweet time in going about it
― A is for (Aimless), Sunday, 23 February 2020 04:58 (four years ago) link
Trump certainly looks like he smells like he's dying
― Pinche Cumbion Bien Loco (stevie), Sunday, 23 February 2020 16:17 (four years ago) link
speaking of dying and smells, I read something about his trip to India expressing concern that his beef-centric diet will be compromised because they will not serve him beef there. Imagining him squirming hungrily in front of a plate of delicious vegetarian Indian food that he can't bring his pitiful palate to eat -- LOOOOOOOOOL
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Monday, 24 February 2020 14:29 (four years ago) link
I hope he dies of dysentery.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Monday, 24 February 2020 14:31 (four years ago) link
Morning Joe actually spent five minutes ruminating on the consequences of the president's inability to eat a Bic Mac in New Delhi.
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 24 February 2020 14:37 (four years ago) link
The thing I read was on CNN.com! I clicked somewhat shamefully because I wanted to know more after that sweet headline :( After reading, I began to relish the idea of him being severely uncomfortable. https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/23/politics/donald-trump-india-beef-vegetarian/index.html
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Monday, 24 February 2020 14:42 (four years ago) link
he must really have exceptional health to have not succumbed to colon cancer by now
― equam phillips (crüt), Monday, 24 February 2020 14:45 (four years ago) link
How can he succumb to the thing he is the living embodiment of
― Expart of Languidge (Old Lunch), Monday, 24 February 2020 14:47 (four years ago) link
Yeah this fuels my belief that he is a roiling blob of human cancer. How on earth can he have survived with that diet? He is revolting through and through, like ALL the way up and down and inside out.
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Monday, 24 February 2020 14:50 (four years ago) link
there is not actually a clear passage through and through
― j., Monday, 24 February 2020 14:54 (four years ago) link
Good point.
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Monday, 24 February 2020 15:11 (four years ago) link
Pretty sure there is beef jerky in his pockets - all pockets - at all times.
― nashwan, Monday, 24 February 2020 15:14 (four years ago) link
what it's actual big macs in the pockets?
― mh, Monday, 24 February 2020 15:29 (four years ago) link
in Putin's Russia colon cancer succumbs to him
― Pinche Cumbion Bien Loco (stevie), Monday, 24 February 2020 15:47 (four years ago) link
!!!!! pic.twitter.com/q7xJ8wGsRD— Jake Sherman (@JakeSherman) February 24, 2020
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 25 February 2020 02:42 (four years ago) link
But no cauliflower rice, that might push him over the edge into hitting the red button and nuking Mexico or something.
― Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Tuesday, 25 February 2020 02:44 (four years ago) link
serve him cauliflower ears for dinner
― sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 25 February 2020 02:45 (four years ago) link
if i known it was that kinda republican party, i woulda stuck my cauliflower in the mashed potatoes
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 25 February 2020 03:45 (four years ago) link
― sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 25 February 2020 03:52 (four years ago) link
who's a good boy
― an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Tuesday, 25 February 2020 04:16 (four years ago) link
"making the ice cream less accessible" is excellent
― mh, Tuesday, 25 February 2020 15:23 (four years ago) link
Just store it at floor level. No way he's making it that far down unless he falls.
― Expart of Languidge (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 25 February 2020 15:31 (four years ago) link
I assume someone has already alerted Daniel Drezner to that.
― jaymc, Tuesday, 25 February 2020 15:38 (four years ago) link
On Mar-a-Lago's website, I stumbled on this photo of one of their guest rooms. If you've stayed here, tell me what they charged you! Also, tell me what the deal is w/the frog. pic.twitter.com/pthnq4pH4m— David Fahrenthold (@Fahrenthold) February 24, 2020
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 25 February 2020 16:20 (four years ago) link
The frog was modeled after Trump himself during one of his famous executive time mega dumps
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Tuesday, 25 February 2020 16:21 (four years ago) link
little lord froggleroy
― Generous Grant for Stepladder Creamery (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 25 February 2020 16:22 (four years ago) link
That’s Jeremy Fisher. I don’t know what he’s doing there.
― tokyo rosemary, Tuesday, 25 February 2020 17:16 (four years ago) link
Trump spent 45 minutes today w/producers behind a play that dramatized the text messages between FBI agents Peter Strzok and Lisa Page, complaining about why "some people are in prison and others aren't." He is now meeting with Diamond and Silk and others. https://t.co/5jIxvyyUfl— Josh Dawsey (@jdawsey1) February 27, 2020
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 28 February 2020 02:48 (four years ago) link
"THE LOVERS"
― a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 28 February 2020 05:21 (four years ago) link
The president crouches down to do an impression of Michael Bloomberg being destroyed by Elizabeth Warren. pic.twitter.com/NbwcbUMNtz— Daniel Dale (@ddale8) February 29, 2020
― brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Monday, 2 March 2020 15:33 (four years ago) link
I understand he didn't try to fuck the flag this time.
― nashwan, Monday, 2 March 2020 15:36 (four years ago) link
every time I see this thread pop up I hope it's because it turned into an RIP thread
― justice 4 CCR (Sparkle Motion), Monday, 2 March 2020 16:35 (four years ago) link
He embraced it, pressed himself against it, rocked back and forth with it while saying "Oh, I love you baby. I love you, baby. I love you. I love you," and then kissed it.
― Fantastic. Great move. Well done (sic), Tuesday, 3 March 2020 02:05 (four years ago) link
starting to suspect this fella doesn't know what he's doing
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Tuesday, 3 March 2020 02:09 (four years ago) link
strong move, mr. president!
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/03/trump-campaign-sues-washington-post-for-defamation.html
― reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 3 March 2020 19:33 (four years ago) link
All it took to push Trump out of the media's spotlight was a lil pandemic hysteria
Google news homepage ctrl-f Trump: 6 resultsGoogle news homepage ctrl-f corona: 43 results
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 4 March 2020 17:03 (four years ago) link
On the subject of friendship, Trump was asked in a lightening range
to name his closest friend in Washington. Trump demurred, saying there were too many, but that he’s close to Vice President Pence and members of Congress, even Democrats.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 6 March 2020 02:43 (four years ago) link
In other words, Trump has no friends.
Trying to think of how any other president would answer that, or even how I would answer that.
― But guess what? Nobody gives a toot!😂 (Karl Malone), Friday, 6 March 2020 02:56 (four years ago) link
Seriously? He could have just said his wife. But Mike Pence?
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 6 March 2020 03:01 (four years ago) link
i guess this is why i'm not president of the united states
― But guess what? Nobody gives a toot!😂 (Karl Malone), Friday, 6 March 2020 03:07 (four years ago) link
"my wife" seems like a kind of pathetic answer/dodge too
shoulda said Mike Pence's wife
― symsymsym, Friday, 6 March 2020 05:44 (four years ago) link
my best friend is probably eddy terrance, who works down in the mailroom. it's weird to think that our friendship started off as just "wow, this guy helps process my mail", but that really is how it began
― But guess what? Nobody gives a toot!😂 (Karl Malone), Friday, 6 March 2020 05:55 (four years ago) link
I don't usually post stuff like this, but this is brilliant (at least for the first minute or so--he goes on a little long).
God only brought one guy back from the dead on Easter. Trump is here to bring back the whole economy on Easter 2020. Enjoy this clip (possibly, like, the best ever), share and be sure to subscribe to Making Podcasts Great Again (@TrumpPod) - new every week! pic.twitter.com/aUifVWRzfh— J-L Cauvin (@JLCauvin) March 24, 2020
― clemenza, Friday, 27 March 2020 00:50 (four years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSlWI3gUQlo
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Saturday, 4 April 2020 23:03 (four years ago) link
reminds me of when he took a question from a venezuelan reporter and ignored the question and just ranted about venezuela for a few minutes
― wasdnuos (abanana), Sunday, 5 April 2020 01:38 (four years ago) link
Wow, we haven’t seen National Mall this empty since Donald Trump’s inauguration. pic.twitter.com/HVVcb8AYyF— Translate Trump (@TranslateRealDT) April 3, 2020
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 5 April 2020 14:49 (four years ago) link
Ok lol
― cuomo money, cuomo problems (Ye Mad Puffin), Sunday, 5 April 2020 14:56 (four years ago) link
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/04/24/trump-biden-china-debt-205475
Trump owes tens of millions to the Bank of China — and the loan is due soon
― herds of unmasked cletuses (WmC), Friday, 24 April 2020 14:17 (three years ago) link
To them being a Real Man is simply physically or emotionally dominating those around you, not any of the positive aspects of traditional masculinity (bravery, civic duty, being a responsible father, etc) David is referring to.— Adam Serwer🍝 (@AdamSerwer) April 24, 2020
― El Tomboto, Friday, 24 April 2020 22:49 (three years ago) link
So so pathetic https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/apr/25/donald-trump-stays-away-from-briefings-amid-fallout-from-disinfectant-comments
― Pinche Cumbion Bien Loco (stevie), Sunday, 26 April 2020 06:26 (three years ago) link
He'll pout for a couple days and then come back and do it all over again.
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Sunday, 26 April 2020 06:37 (three years ago) link
GoofyI’llfuckindoitagain.jpeg
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Sunday, 26 April 2020 12:15 (three years ago) link
Just saw the new Crazy Phil Leonetti interview, Trump only mentioned in passing in regard to Trump buying an Atlantic City club from Scarfo. Says he didn't deal with him personally at the time, but Trump had 'made a statement, "those guys are stupid, I would have paid twice as much for that building", you know how he is'
As President he's 'not doing such a great job'.
Not much to add to public record, and not many left yet to comment on that time now.
― anvil, Sunday, 26 April 2020 20:12 (three years ago) link
The “Noble Prize” tweetstorm, deletion, and “I was being sarcastic, duh” finale was pretty funny. Nobody clowns this guy like himself.
― circa1916, Monday, 27 April 2020 14:24 (three years ago) link
funniest thing about this is all the QAnon & Dilbert guy types coming out to say "actually the President knew exactly what he was talking about, the media and idiot liberals are just too dumb to get it" and then an hour later Trump just trampling over everything
― frogbs, Monday, 27 April 2020 14:26 (three years ago) link
lol imagine applying this amount of granular analysis to shithead's daily improv rant
https://nyti.ms/3aHzDHA
https://static01.nyt.com/newsgraphics/2020/04/08/briefings/fd870130f4417c1dfaa4d626477dede1a608bd09/multis-Artboard_1.jpg
― Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Monday, 27 April 2020 14:30 (three years ago) link
― circa1916, Monday, 27 April 2020 14:39 (three years ago) link
Every time he dies a press conference he should constantly be hounded to clarify if what he has just said is sarcastic or not
― I am using your worlds, Monday, 27 April 2020 15:14 (three years ago) link
I was thinking the same thing.
― herds of unmasked cletuses (WmC), Monday, 27 April 2020 16:21 (three years ago) link
I mean, he seldom has a lot of meaning in anything he says, it’s just all riffing. If his fan base starts disliking something he’ll spice it up by making up something newIt’s all serious and all sarcastic, depending on context
― mh, Monday, 27 April 2020 16:28 (three years ago) link
like when he refers to himself as "your favorite president"
serious for his supporters, sarcastic for everyone else
― let me be your friend on the other end! (Karl Malone), Monday, 27 April 2020 16:34 (three years ago) link
I just want to hear him say "That's for me to know and you to find out."
― herds of unmasked cletuses (WmC), Monday, 27 April 2020 16:38 (three years ago) link
Just once I want to hear his death rattle.
― Boring, Maryland, Monday, 27 April 2020 19:14 (three years ago) link
The president said in front of the Lincoln Memorial that he thinks he’s been treated worse than Lincoln.— Maggie Haberman (@maggieNYT) May 4, 2020
ok lol
― dip to dup (rob), Monday, 4 May 2020 16:02 (three years ago) link
If you can stand reading about him, highly recommend James Poniewozik's Audience of One:Donald Trump, Television, and the Fracturing of America.
― clemenza, Monday, 4 May 2020 16:14 (three years ago) link
I'd love it if he were treated equally with Lincoln
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 4 May 2020 17:11 (three years ago) link
he should definitely open up a local theater
― Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Monday, 4 May 2020 17:57 (three years ago) link
He’s been saying it for months.
― Elon's musk (sic), Monday, 4 May 2020 18:04 (three years ago) link
The latest David Roth is very good: https://newrepublic.com/article/157546/donald-trump-coronavirus-press-conference
In close up, on television, at a glance, with the volume down, Donald Trump can from time to time look like a president. That effect becomes less convincing the more you pay attention, though. Even under professional lighting, Trump reliably looks like a photographic negative of himself; on his worse and wetter days, he has the tone and texture of those lacquered roast ducks that hang from hooks in Chinatown restaurant windows. The passing presidentiality of the man dissipates utterly in longer shots, where Trump can be seen standing tipped oddly forward like a jowly ski jumper in midair, or mincing forward to bum-rush an expert’s inconvenient answer with an incoherent one of his own, or just making faces intended to signal that he is listening very strongly to what someone else is saying. (These slapdash performances of executive seriousness tend to have the effect, as the comedian Stewart Lee once said of James Corden, of making Trump look like “a dog listening to classical music.”) Seen from this long-shot vantage, the man at the podium is unmistakably Donald Trump—uncanny, unknowing, upset about various things that he can’t quite understand or express.
― jaymc, Monday, 4 May 2020 18:20 (three years ago) link
donald trump is a comedian
― treeship., Monday, 4 May 2020 18:31 (three years ago) link
"his worse and wetter days" for June thread title.
― "...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 4 May 2020 18:31 (three years ago) link
love the James Corden-bashing line snuck in there
― mh, Monday, 4 May 2020 23:25 (three years ago) link
lol same
― brimstead, Monday, 4 May 2020 23:37 (three years ago) link
beginning to think it might not be a great idea to elect people with malfunctioning brains to public office
I don't understand anything in this tweet. Not one thing. pic.twitter.com/NN3tvrir2V— haunted dog (@zandywithaz) May 16, 2020
― Bleeqwot (sic), Sunday, 17 May 2020 01:00 (three years ago) link
Have to admit trump is so uniquely insane and stupid that he occasionally stumbles on these absolutely wonderful phrases like “bring light inside the body” and “whipped his mind”
― Evans on Hammond (evol j), Sunday, 17 May 2020 02:00 (three years ago) link
I guess it’s like we made evil wesley willis the president
― Evans on Hammond (evol j), Sunday, 17 May 2020 02:02 (three years ago) link
wow, deep
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Sunday, 17 May 2020 03:19 (three years ago) link
ashamed to admit I usually get what Trump is alluding to most of the time but yeah that one is way over my head
― frogbs, Sunday, 17 May 2020 03:23 (three years ago) link
― i am a horse girl (map), Sunday, 17 May 2020 03:25 (three years ago) link
"Apprentice fees"?? To his mind he's replaying one of his greatest hits, but it's one that never made the charts, except in one zip code in L.A. or N.Y.
― A is for (Aimless), Sunday, 17 May 2020 03:28 (three years ago) link
Are people marking him on the wrong scale How does he fare as an iconoclast or nihilist.Is he school of Pa Ubu ? Is he quite gross enough ?Seems to work as a catalyst a lot better than as a statesman.
― Stevolende, Sunday, 17 May 2020 07:26 (three years ago) link
"We are building, right now, incredible military equipment at a level that nobody has ever seen before. We have no choice. We have to do it -- with the adversaries we have out there. We have a -- I call it the 'super-duper missile.'”Nobody will ever know what level Trump is on. Chaotic Evil is the best we can do.
― circa1916, Sunday, 17 May 2020 07:45 (three years ago) link
https://money.cnn.com/2015/07/16/media/lawrence-odonnell-donald-trump-salary/
― Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Sunday, 17 May 2020 07:53 (three years ago) link
This is somehow dumber than anything that happened in the intervening 4.5 years right up to Trump's tweet about it.
― Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Sunday, 17 May 2020 07:54 (three years ago) link
wow. yeah.
Trump apparently called Scarborough during one of the show's commercial breaks to issue a "bet to a certain host on MSNBC." Scarborough relayed the terms.If Trump's salary is not certified to be correct, Scarborough said, "then he will give said host one year's salary.""If he is telling the truth, then said host owes Donald Trump a year of his television salary," Scarborough continued.A Trump spokesperson clarified that, under the terms of the bet, Trump would pay one year of O'Donnell's salary, not his own.
If Trump's salary is not certified to be correct, Scarborough said, "then he will give said host one year's salary."
"If he is telling the truth, then said host owes Donald Trump a year of his television salary," Scarborough continued.
A Trump spokesperson clarified that, under the terms of the bet, Trump would pay one year of O'Donnell's salary, not his own.
always so much fun when a rich guy makes a bet for someone else's annual salary. what a prick
― Karl Malone, Sunday, 17 May 2020 15:15 (three years ago) link
man of the people, by which i mean the shoggoth
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Sunday, 17 May 2020 18:19 (three years ago) link
tentative hope over US vaccine tempered by thought that if said vaccine works, he will take credit for it, his Magats will gladly give him cedit for it, his terrible, psychotic handling of the pandemic will be erased and he will win reelection, and then something worse than covid comes along and we all die
― Pinche Cumbion Bien Loco (stevie), Monday, 18 May 2020 22:20 (three years ago) link
I'd gladly trade unearned praise for Trump for a real vaccine
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Monday, 18 May 2020 22:36 (three years ago) link
getting high on your own supply
BREAKING: President Trump says he is taking hydroxychloriquine and has been doing so for weeks. @CBSNews #Covid_19— Paula Reid (@PaulaReidCBS) May 18, 2020
― nashwan, Monday, 18 May 2020 22:40 (three years ago) link
maybe this is a stealth way of admitting he has one of the normal conditions the medication is used for and the entire ploy that it could treat covid has been a long cover-up
― mh, Monday, 18 May 2020 23:29 (three years ago) link
if covid-19 becomes less of an issue, he'll just say he's continuing to take it because it's a good product. great stuff!
― mh, Monday, 18 May 2020 23:30 (three years ago) link
He's actually had malaria this whole time.
― "...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 18 May 2020 23:35 (three years ago) link
rheumatoid arthritishis golf swing isn't actually bad, it's just those joints being all swollen
― mh, Tuesday, 19 May 2020 00:01 (three years ago) link
I have a preview of tomorrow's press conference, if you'll indulge me:I WAS BEING SARCASTIC, GAWW!
― Unparalleled Elegance (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 01:59 (three years ago) link
Or he'll look over at Dr. Birx and it'll be like "I think you said you wanted to try some yourself...Come on up here, we'll down a shot together."
― clemenza, Tuesday, 19 May 2020 02:02 (three years ago) link
1. do you think when trump talked about injecting disinfectant, he was thinking of the -chloro- part in that drug name?2. maybe he'll end up in a spite coma like jordan peterson
― wasdnous (abanana), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 03:06 (three years ago) link
he was thinking
― an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 03:32 (three years ago) link
seems like he's very clearly laying the groundwork for starting his own network (or taking over OANN) after he loses, even more so than last cycle
Donald J. Trump@realDonaldTrumpMany will disagree, but @FoxNews is doing nothing to help Republicans, and me, get re-elected on November 3rd. Sure, there are some truly GREAT people on Fox, but you also have some real “garbage” littered all over the network, people like Dummy Juan Williams, Schumerite Chris.......Hahn, Richard Goodstein, Donna Brazile, Niel Cavuto, and many others. They repeat the worst of the Democrat speaking points, and lies. All of the good is totally nullified, and more. Net Result = BAD! CNN & MSDNC are all in for the Do Nothing Democrats! Fox WAS Great!
....Hahn, Richard Goodstein, Donna Brazile, Niel Cavuto, and many others. They repeat the worst of the Democrat speaking points, and lies. All of the good is totally nullified, and more. Net Result = BAD! CNN & MSDNC are all in for the Do Nothing Democrats! Fox WAS Great!
putting aside the whole thing where he's criticizing a major news network because they're not partisan enough
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 21 May 2020 19:52 (three years ago) link
How cathartic would a televised emperor's new clothes moment be? My fantasy is for him to just start getting heckled and laughed at in one of his stupid press conferences. Enough with the serious-sounding follow-up questions to his vapid rambling. Just laugh at this idiot.
― DJI, Thursday, 21 May 2020 19:59 (three years ago) link
Remember this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-z4y8OJxlK8
― pomenitul, Thursday, 21 May 2020 20:01 (three years ago) link
Saw this today...imagine the Taschen coffeetable of all the manly man Trump paintings!https://cdn10.bigcommerce.com/s-dcvfa4/products/3422/images/4867/MAGA_Ride_lwrez_3__57475.1556137662.1280.1280.jpg?c=2
― "...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 21 May 2020 23:25 (three years ago) link
this guy is actually pretty cool
― Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 21 May 2020 23:27 (three years ago) link
would pay a *substantial* sum to watch Asshole try to mount a motorbike, let alone ride it
― an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Friday, 22 May 2020 00:32 (three years ago) link
"unless you live in the WH" really made me want to kick him in the face
― brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Friday, 22 May 2020 00:47 (three years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4rYWc4o-eY
― A is for (Aimless), Friday, 22 May 2020 00:54 (three years ago) link
ok then!
The President says the founder of Ford has good bloodlines.. If you’re not familiar with Henry Ford, I would encourage you to read more about him and specifically his actions during WW2 pic.twitter.com/vniaOSR2sX— Acyn Torabi (@Acyn) May 21, 2020
― Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 22 May 2020 01:37 (three years ago) link
I mean that's not a mistake, right? Like...who would say such a thing unless fully aware what he's doing
― Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 22 May 2020 01:39 (three years ago) link
you believe in that stuff? ha ha
― Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 22 May 2020 01:40 (three years ago) link
One of those Presidents playing poker paintings but it’s Joe Kennedy, Prescott Bush, Henry Ford and Himmler.
― Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Friday, 22 May 2020 01:48 (three years ago) link
you can get Fred Koch in there, like reaching down to pet a a dog poking its head out from under the table
― Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 22 May 2020 01:55 (three years ago) link
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 22 May 2020 02:03 (three years ago) link
Is this even possible to believe? Can this be for real? Where is this nursing home, how is the victim doing?— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) May 22, 2020
what the fuck is he talking about
― frogbs, Friday, 22 May 2020 02:33 (three years ago) link
This, I think: https://www.clickondetroit.com/news/local/2020/05/21/detroit-police-make-arrest-after-nursing-home-assault-video-surfaces/
MAGA BUTTONS PUSHED:
--Scary POC.
--Old, possibly White, People
--CAUGHT ON TAPE!
--In a state He's feuding with...
--...That has a Female Democrat Governor
MAGA OUTRAGE BINGO!
― "...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 22 May 2020 03:16 (three years ago) link
"is this even possible to believe" asked the president of the united states, at the start of the greatest pandemic seen in america in multiple generations, regarding a felony assault"yes" answered everyone
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 22 May 2020 03:29 (three years ago) link
Where is this nursing home, the president asked
― Karl Malone, Friday, 22 May 2020 03:53 (three years ago) link
I could imagine him not being fully aware but just repeating a thing bone-faced Nazi wretch Miller whispered in his ear just before walking on camera, but also Trump is a wrthless racist white supremacist so
― Pinche Cumbion Bien Loco (stevie), Friday, 22 May 2020 06:20 (three years ago) link
Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel torched President Trump after he failed to wear a mask while visiting a Ford plant outside of Detroit Thursday afternoon.On Wednesday evening, Nessel urged Trump in an open letter ahead of his visit to comply with executive orders by Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer (D) and Ford’s policy, which mandates masks in an effort to slow the spread of the novel coronavirus. Nessel then doubled down on her request during an interview on CNN the next morning, saying that if the President doesn’t adhere to the mask-wearing policy, he won’t be welcomed back to enclosed facilities in her state.Although Trump brought a mask with the presidential seal during his visit to the Ford plant on Thursday, he refused to wear it on camera because he “didn’t want to give the press the pleasure of seeing it.”When asked during an interview on CNN later Thursday about her thoughts on Trump refusing to wear a mask, Nessel responded that “it’s exactly right” that the President won’t be welcomed back to her state because his actions were “extremely disappointing and yet totally predictable.”Nessel then compared Trump to a “petulant child who refuses to follow the rules” before adding that her remark is “no joke” due to the overwhelming amount of deaths nationwide from the COVID-19 pandemic.
On Wednesday evening, Nessel urged Trump in an open letter ahead of his visit to comply with executive orders by Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer (D) and Ford’s policy, which mandates masks in an effort to slow the spread of the novel coronavirus. Nessel then doubled down on her request during an interview on CNN the next morning, saying that if the President doesn’t adhere to the mask-wearing policy, he won’t be welcomed back to enclosed facilities in her state.
Although Trump brought a mask with the presidential seal during his visit to the Ford plant on Thursday, he refused to wear it on camera because he “didn’t want to give the press the pleasure of seeing it.”
When asked during an interview on CNN later Thursday about her thoughts on Trump refusing to wear a mask, Nessel responded that “it’s exactly right” that the President won’t be welcomed back to her state because his actions were “extremely disappointing and yet totally predictable.”
Nessel then compared Trump to a “petulant child who refuses to follow the rules” before adding that her remark is “no joke” due to the overwhelming amount of deaths nationwide from the COVID-19 pandemic.
― Karl Malone, Friday, 22 May 2020 06:25 (three years ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/vkn7YsL.jpg
― Karl Malone, Friday, 22 May 2020 06:27 (three years ago) link
apparently he's actually wearing the mask, "backstage", but refuses to wear it out where the cameras are? trump's vanity about his appearance vs his vanity about his reputation among his dumbass followers, T/S
― Karl Malone, Friday, 22 May 2020 06:30 (three years ago) link
or of course his constant desire to seem on a higher level than everyone else, like he doesn't have to follow the same rules (because look - he doesn't)
― Karl Malone, Friday, 22 May 2020 06:31 (three years ago) link
fucking asshole
https://i.imgur.com/vkn7YsL.jpg"I, the President, am in no way naked and am actualy wearing fine, fine new garments."
― Pinche Cumbion Bien Loco (stevie), Friday, 22 May 2020 07:05 (three years ago) link
One of the potential side effects of his pet antimalarial drug is... hair loss.
― I bless 2 Chainz down in Africa (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 22 May 2020 12:27 (three years ago) link
there's zero chance he's actually taking it, right?
― frogbs, Friday, 22 May 2020 17:27 (three years ago) link
is that Kayleigh McEnany there in the background...also not wearing a mask?
― Dan S, Friday, 22 May 2020 17:47 (three years ago) link
Sure looks like her, gotta make sure the new boss isn't displeased.
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 22 May 2020 17:50 (three years ago) link
Wonder who the facepalm guy is?
― Alert! The virus lives (Matt #2), Friday, 22 May 2020 17:54 (three years ago) link
Can someone in the press ask him why he's too chickenshit to have his photo taken with a mask, and get him to confirm whether or not it's derangement as a side effect of taking chloro?
― Pinche Cumbion Bien Loco (stevie), Friday, 22 May 2020 18:56 (three years ago) link
Sorry, only pre-approved and pre-screened questions from OANN are allowed to be presented to Dear Leader on days when he hasn't had his nap.
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 22 May 2020 19:23 (three years ago) link
After seeing that pic of him wearing the 'Presidential' mask, I find it strange that Trump chose hardmanning against masks instead of really going in on tacky MAGA & 45-branded masks (that ultimately would be less safe than regular masks).
― "...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 22 May 2020 19:55 (three years ago) link
tacky MAGA & 45-branded masks (that ultimately would be less safe than regular masks).
IIRC they made some. They were made out of glossy cardboard, looked like shit, and offered absolutely no protection.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Friday, 22 May 2020 20:02 (three years ago) link
He explicitly stated that he didn't want to give the media the satisfaction of seeing him in a mask. So all this is yet another "own the libs" moment. The more oxygen we give it the more it feeds the MAGAgasm.
― I bless Bad Brains down in Africa (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 22 May 2020 20:06 (three years ago) link
The conservative Catholic ideologue who wore a mask he found in the gutter to own the libs is my fave
― Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Friday, 22 May 2020 21:10 (three years ago) link
Trump's wig literally hazard yellow in that pic
― nashwan, Friday, 22 May 2020 21:21 (three years ago) link
He is unable to use the word "negative" when it's about himself.https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/498990-trump-on-his-latest-coronavirus-test-i-tested-positively-toward
― StanM, Friday, 22 May 2020 23:39 (three years ago) link
It's bad that he surrounds himself with criminals; it's hilarious that he surrounds himself with idiots.
Kayleigh McEnany announced today that Trump was donating part of his presidential salary to HHS. She displayed one of his checks during the announcement.She also displayed Trump's private bank account and routing numbers.https://t.co/UZhANooYA6— Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) May 23, 2020
― but also fuck you (unperson), Saturday, 23 May 2020 11:45 (three years ago) link
It's bad that he surrounds himself with criminals; it's hilarious that he surrounds himself with idiots.🐦[Kayleigh McEnany announced today that Trump was donating part of his presidential salary to HHS. She displayed one of his checks during the announcement.She also displayed Trump’s private bank account and routing numbers.https://t.co/UZhANooYA6🕸— Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) May 23, 2020🕸]🐦
― Boring, Maryland, Saturday, 23 May 2020 17:36 (three years ago) link
honestly surprised it took him this long to get golfing
― mookieproof, Saturday, 23 May 2020 18:02 (three years ago) link
hang on didn’t he make a big deal about not taking a salary when he was elected
― a denim head and an aficionado of Japanese craftsmanship (bizarro gazzara), Saturday, 23 May 2020 18:52 (three years ago) link
yes, he theatrically donates it every month, while rorting hundreds of millions more out in expenses and personal grift
― Bleeqwot (sic), Saturday, 23 May 2020 19:02 (three years ago) link
All I know about the Joe Scarborough case is what's in here, but this is creepy.
http://www.cnn.com/2020/05/26/media/trump-joe-scarborough-conspiracy-theory/index.html
― clemenza, Tuesday, 26 May 2020 18:40 (three years ago) link
If it wasn't so infuriating, it would be hilarious to watch Twitter constantly rewriting their rules to justify keeping whatever Trump shits out up.
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 26 May 2020 18:45 (three years ago) link
trump is -- you guessed it -- increasingly isolated
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/05/trump-whines-about-his-covid-19-victimhood-as-campaign-flails
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 26 May 2020 21:20 (three years ago) link
As one prominent Republican put it: “Right now the only person who can change the dynamic is Joe Biden.”
Joe Biden: Allright, who are we talking to today?
― DJI, Tuesday, 26 May 2020 21:34 (three years ago) link
He's such a fucking dangerous pathetic asshole https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-calls-mask-wearing-politically-correct-biden-calls-him-a-fool/2020/05/26/a58025e6-9f9c-11ea-81bb-c2f70f01034b_story.html
― Pinche Cumbion Bien Loco (stevie), Wednesday, 27 May 2020 06:20 (three years ago) link
Joe Biden can wear a mask, but he was standing outside with his wife, perfect conditions, perfect weather ... And so I thought it was very unusual that he had one on
...whaaa? Does he think its worse if it's raining or windy or something? Is this guy high?
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Wednesday, 27 May 2020 07:06 (three years ago) link
@realDonaldTrump · 21hThere is NO WAY (ZERO!) that Mail-In Ballots will be anything less than substantially fraudulent. Mail boxes will be robbed, ballots will be forged & even illegally printed out & fraudulently signed.
Cool that he is letting us know his plan in advance.
― nashwan, Wednesday, 27 May 2020 10:01 (three years ago) link
You've got to hand it to him!
my neighbor’s sister told me she didn’t vote for trump last time but she thinks she will now specifically because of his coronavirus response: “he didn’t have to do a stimulus but he did it. gotta give him credit.” christ— Brandy Jensen (@BrandyLJensen) May 27, 2020
― Alba, Wednesday, 27 May 2020 13:27 (three years ago) link
Out of his own pocket, to boot!
― pomenitul, Wednesday, 27 May 2020 13:28 (three years ago) link
It's astounding to me that these people remember to swallow after they've chewed up their food.
― Fun-Loving and Furry-Curious! (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 27 May 2020 13:30 (three years ago) link
Does anyone care to point out to Trump that Australia's done absentee mail-in, and pre-polling day voting, for forever without any issues at all?
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Wednesday, 27 May 2020 23:17 (three years ago) link
yeah but that only works because you guys are upside-down, gravity will prevent us from making it work here
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 27 May 2020 23:18 (three years ago) link
Like wtf does he think his own citizens in the military and at foreign embassies do?
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Wednesday, 27 May 2020 23:19 (three years ago) link
xpost lolol
He probably thinks kangaroos vote there tho.
― "...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 27 May 2020 23:19 (three years ago) link
shhh don't tell anyone!
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Wednesday, 27 May 2020 23:20 (three years ago) link
Our population is actually only about 10thousand, the rest of the census was signed by roos and dropbears also this is why no one here has the rona - we're not humans.
...I mean THEYRE not. Erm.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Wednesday, 27 May 2020 23:21 (three years ago) link
Trayce, he votes absentee himself. Nothing that he says publicly, ever, has anything to do with either a fact nor a genuine belief that he holds.
― massage angry pixels (sic), Wednesday, 27 May 2020 23:25 (three years ago) link
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Wednesday, 27 May 2020 23:29 (three years ago) link
this has nothing to do with actual fraud, and is only about stopping people they do not want to vote from voting, and casting doubt and confusion over the voting process, so that if they lose, they can say it was due to fraud.
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Wednesday, 27 May 2020 23:59 (three years ago) link
Truth is never an effective counter to American exceptionalism.
― Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Thursday, 28 May 2020 00:14 (three years ago) link
Trump and the GOP's entire worldview is that the people who do not vote for them are illegitimate
― frogbs, Thursday, 28 May 2020 00:15 (three years ago) link
He WON and he still whinged about fraudulent voting didnt he? I have to stop thinking about this turd in a wig. It is angrying up my blood and I dont even live in the US.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Thursday, 28 May 2020 00:54 (three years ago) link
Republicans should take heart, inspire of compulsory voting, pre-polling and mail in ballots; Australia still elects a parade of fascist shitweasels into government.
― American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Thursday, 28 May 2020 03:07 (three years ago) link
Well yes, this is (mostly) true but in our defence, they won legitimately because everyone in this country loves a man in uniform.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Thursday, 28 May 2020 04:37 (three years ago) link
Compulsory voting probably favors incumbent parties and candidates even more than our model, because you’re encouraging the CGLOAF demographic to come out and vote.
― El Tomboto, Thursday, 28 May 2020 04:47 (three years ago) link
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― massage angry pixels (sic), Thursday, 28 May 2020 07:02 (three years ago) link
Trump and McEnany said Trump had to vote by mail because he couldn't be in Florida to do it in person. Wrong. He was there for 2 full early voting days. A voting site was *across the street from his golf club.* He drove past it 6 times.@Kevinliptakcnn: https://t.co/EaZBU73F4Z— Daniel Dale (@ddale8) May 28, 2020
― massage angry pixels (sic), Thursday, 28 May 2020 09:10 (three years ago) link
on balance, probably a dud
― ||||||||, Thursday, 28 May 2020 09:17 (three years ago) link
This executive order being issued against Twitter and Facebook today is quite a blindingly shiny infrastructure distraction (and in record time, it feels like).
http://www.cnn.com/2020/05/28/politics/trump-twitter-social-media-executive-order/index.html
If I'm reading that right, it will allow lawsuits to go forward a lot easier.
But the order could quickly find itself in a thicket of legal and constitutional questions as the White House tests the boundaries of its authority.
What barriers slow down or stop executive orders?
― clemenza, Thursday, 28 May 2020 13:36 (three years ago) link
Lawsuits, injunctions against implementation/enforcement while the whole mess plays out in court.
― Irritable Baal (WmC), Thursday, 28 May 2020 13:55 (three years ago) link
wow took this fucker weeks to react to a pandemic in his own country but a twitter factcheck brings out the EO in 2 days
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 28 May 2020 13:59 (three years ago) link
This looks like a mistake, he has the balance on social media exactly in his favour right now, special rules for himself, but all unwritten so with plausible deniability. Facebook and Twitter got him into power, if Zuckerberg and Dorsey wanted to flex right now they could demonstrate this.OTOH I'd like to see Trump wriggle his way out of this sticky situation, etc.
― Wuhan!! Got You All in Check (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 28 May 2020 14:02 (three years ago) link
(xposts) So nothing happens then if he loses in November. Good--because you know ILX is next on his list.
― clemenza, Thursday, 28 May 2020 14:04 (three years ago) link
banning twitter might be the first he does that I like
― Joey Corona (Euler), Thursday, 28 May 2020 14:13 (three years ago) link
Wouldn't this exec order create more twitter censorship? They would be held accountable when Trump says libelous things.
― wasdnous (abanana), Thursday, 28 May 2020 14:23 (three years ago) link
You figure at some point his nose has to stop growing back after he petulantly spites his face.
― Fun-Loving and Furry-Curious! (Old Lunch), Thursday, 28 May 2020 14:42 (three years ago) link
Update on the nose/face showdown:
The president's clash with tech companies comes at a delicate moment. Unlike most American firms, these companies — which are used to working remotely and do not rely on physical locations for sales — have performed strongly throughout the pandemic and have helped to drive the stock market recovery.
Which is pretty much his be-all and end-all, no?
http://www.cnn.com/2020/05/28/investing/premarket-stocks-trading/index.html
― clemenza, Thursday, 28 May 2020 15:12 (three years ago) link
I'm not on Twitter, so I can't check beyond his first few posts--did they at least leave up those disclaimers from yesterday, or are those already gone?
― clemenza, Thursday, 28 May 2020 15:54 (three years ago) link
i don't really understand what he could do to twitter with an EO. if he holds the platforms responsible for what others publish on them -- as if they were "publications" -- then that would be the end of social media. the platforms would need to vet everything that is published on them, not just things that have been flagged.
― treeship., Thursday, 28 May 2020 16:27 (three years ago) link
Twitter should just ban him for 24 hours then reset his followers to 0.
― Night of the Living Crustheads (PBKR), Thursday, 28 May 2020 18:50 (three years ago) link
It'll end up meaningless, this is just him flailing in his temper tantrum because, for the first time, he's actually seeing tangible pushback on the shit he spews.
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 28 May 2020 18:58 (three years ago) link
Temper, and whipping up a story that's not the pandemic or George Floyd.
― clemenza, Thursday, 28 May 2020 19:09 (three years ago) link
I think the latter is just a happy bonus for the GOP, I genuinely don't think Trump himself is thinking even that deeply beyond being absolutely furious that he's told he can't say whatever he wants.
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 28 May 2020 19:15 (three years ago) link
Headline of the day. pic.twitter.com/AaWmQoZvFa— Nick de Semlyen (@NickdeSemlyen) May 28, 2020
― groovypanda, Thursday, 28 May 2020 19:59 (three years ago) link
I think the latter is just a happy bonus for the GOP
Had a similar thought after I posted...Ultimately, I don't know if anything will matter in the election--the pandemic, deaths, the economy, race, feuds--except how many of you (Americans who want Trump out) vote.
― clemenza, Thursday, 28 May 2020 20:03 (three years ago) link
Here's an even better Zuck headline:
https://chaser.com.au/world/social-media-should-not-fact-check-posts-says-child-molester-mark-zuckerberg/
“Social media should not fact check posts” says child molester Mark Zuckerberg
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Friday, 29 May 2020 00:15 (three years ago) link
good lord this man is a piece of shit
― trapped out the barndo (crüt), Friday, 29 May 2020 05:23 (three years ago) link
"When the looting starts, the shooting starts" is originally a phrase of Miami police chief Walter Headley. Headley refused to return from vacation when violent protests broke out at the RNC in 1968. "They know what to do...Wen the looting starts, the shooting starts." https://t.co/NpehNOCLNx— Steadman™ (@AsteadWesley) May 29, 2020
― j., Friday, 29 May 2020 05:31 (three years ago) link
We have placed a public interest notice on this Tweet from @realdonaldtrump. https://t.co/6RHX56G2zt— Twitter Comms (@TwitterComms) May 29, 2020
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 29 May 2020 07:38 (three years ago) link
imagine what they might have noticed if they'd ever looked at his account before
― massage angry pixels (sic), Friday, 29 May 2020 07:55 (three years ago) link
This MF said.. “When the looting starts, the shooting starts...” Unbelievable.— ICE T (@FINALLEVEL) May 29, 2020
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 29 May 2020 08:12 (three years ago) link
Gop Killer
― nashwan, Friday, 29 May 2020 09:34 (three years ago) link
I don't know how he managed to get to the FINALLEVEL still with the incredulity that the US is actively a murderous police state if you are black and the pres is a bit of a racist scoundrel.
― calzino, Friday, 29 May 2020 09:45 (three years ago) link
It's Ice T, I'm guessing he is already aware?
― Pinche Cumbion Bien Loco (stevie), Friday, 29 May 2020 10:05 (three years ago) link
marketing genius declares “maga night,” inspires the most chaotic night of domestic unrest in years
― voodoo chili, Sunday, 31 May 2020 02:22 (three years ago) link
I get emails from both the Biden and Trump campaigns (under a pseudonym, of course). I got SIX fundraising emails overnight from the Trump team. They do not appear to be operating from a position of confidence.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Sunday, 31 May 2020 10:16 (three years ago) link
maga night = cities on fire is just good branding lol
― voodoo chili, Sunday, 31 May 2020 14:32 (three years ago) link
make america glow again
― dip to dup (rob), Sunday, 31 May 2020 14:36 (three years ago) link
I got SIX fundraising emails overnight from the Trump team.
Not that this should come as a surprise, but I can't think of a clearer indication of what an opportunity they view all this as.
― clemenza, Monday, 1 June 2020 01:11 (three years ago) link
lol the secret service rushed trump to the bunker under the white house on friday night
― mookieproof, Monday, 1 June 2020 01:42 (three years ago) link
what's his codename right now, birdsnest or whatever
― j., Monday, 1 June 2020 01:48 (three years ago) link
"taint"
― an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Monday, 1 June 2020 01:56 (three years ago) link
They're saying on the news Trump was taken into a bunker because he had so much nervous diarrhea he clogged the entire White House plumbing and all the turds were flooding everywhere like the blood elevator in The Shining and then he clogged the bunker toilet too.— 👶 luke oneil 🧠 (@lukeoneil47) June 1, 2020
― j., Monday, 1 June 2020 02:03 (three years ago) link
Seems Legit.
― "...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 1 June 2020 02:13 (three years ago) link
laying low and tweeting through it. that's leadership
― mookieproof, Monday, 1 June 2020 02:16 (three years ago) link
the phrase "wouldn't bust a grape in a fruit fight" comes to mind
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 1 June 2020 02:29 (three years ago) link
Zuck called Trump to ask him to change his post:
https://www.axios.com/trump-protests-riots-4ab7f1e1-1498-433b-8b80-cedf3cc1ae96.html
― I am a free. I am not man. A number. (Neanderthal), Monday, 1 June 2020 15:29 (three years ago) link
am i the only person who thinks "ominous weapons" is weirdly eloquent for trump. made my brain jump straight to the use of DIME and white phosphorous in gaza in 2009
― plax (ico), Monday, 1 June 2020 15:38 (three years ago) link
Trump clearly wants to be Pinochet, whether he recalls who he is or not
(im sure they golfed together at some point)
― brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Monday, 1 June 2020 22:48 (three years ago) link
Trump asks Melania to smile during today's photo op. pic.twitter.com/B59YeDHKRM— The Recount (@therecount) June 2, 2020
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 2 June 2020 19:03 (three years ago) link
Hey, not bad! Better than I could do.
― the burrito that defined a generation, Tuesday, 2 June 2020 19:27 (three years ago) link
I'm imagining the hard diamond glitter of her eyes behind those shades
― dominance and transmission (Matt #2), Tuesday, 2 June 2020 19:37 (three years ago) link
fuck both of them
she could divorce him at any moment and everyone in the world would not only understand but would commend her for doing the right thing
― Karl Malone, Tuesday, 2 June 2020 19:46 (three years ago) link
^^^^^^^^
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 2 June 2020 19:47 (three years ago) link
she's as culpable as anyone
Well, I don't know about that, but she's got a lot to answer for, sure. She doesn't seem like a glitter mind person though. I've got her pegged as more of a rapidly-transitioning scenes of mutilated flesh mind person. I just can't tell if that barely concealed rage is directed at him or at those who would destroy property. She's a tough nut to crack.
― the burrito that defined a generation, Tuesday, 2 June 2020 19:51 (three years ago) link
People are saying she's becoming increasingly isolated these last few days...
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 2 June 2020 19:52 (three years ago) link
By the way, although the schadenfreude from fantasizing about her leaving him is comforting at first, it's quickly followed by the soul-crushing realization that there would likely be hundreds if not thousands of younger, blonder, farther-right women racing to replace her, and this would very much please Donald.
― the burrito that defined a generation, Tuesday, 2 June 2020 19:54 (three years ago) link
The Eastern Bloc has secret Trumpspouse factories
― fo' schnitzel (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 2 June 2020 20:01 (three years ago) link
People are saying she doesn't really care, do u?
― massage angry pixels (sic), Tuesday, 2 June 2020 20:18 (three years ago) link
the world moves so fast that this is old news already but given the true sickness of it all, let's make sure it's noted:
https://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/an-abuse-of-sacred-symbols-trump-a-bible-and-a-sanctuary
The production, it turned out, had only just begun. After the streets around Lafayette Park had been cleared and the tear gas had wafted away, Trump set out from the White House on foot. He was accompanied by his daughter Ivanka and her husband, Jared Kushner, and a coterie of attendants. They headed toward St. John’s Episcopal Church, the small yellow sanctuary known as the Church of Presidents, because it has welcomed the nation’s leaders since the days of James Madison. The night before, St. John’s had been vandalized with graffiti, and a fire had burned the basement. And yet, throughout Monday afternoon, members of the clergy had been out front, offering water and aid to protesters.Trump stalked across the park, weaving past the monuments, with his security detail skittering around him. When he reached the sanctuary, he did not go inside. Instead, he turned toward the camera, and members of his entourage assembled into a tableau so bizarre that it took a moment to understand what was unfolding. He held up a Bible and posed with it for the cameras, clasping it to his chest, bouncing it in his hand, turning it to and fro, like a product on QVC. He did not offer a prayer or read from scripture. On either side of him, his aides fidgeted awkwardly; there was the droopy, basset-hound visage of his enabling Attorney General, William Barr; his unrelenting cheerleader Mark Meadows, the chief of staff; his spokesperson, Kayleigh McEnany, who grinned madly. Apart from Ivanka Trump, none wore masks.When at last it was over and the President’s expedition had returned to the White House, the church rebelled. In a seething call with CNN, the Right Reverend Mariann Budde, the Episcopal bishop of Washington, said that she was “outraged” by Trump’s use of St. John’s as a prop. “I can’t believe what my eyes are seeing tonight,” she said. “What on earth did we just witness?” Driving away a peaceful crowd with tear gas and weapons in order to stage a photo op was an “abuse of sacred symbols,” she said. A visiting pastor was tear-gassed in the charade. “The President just used a Bible . . . and one of the churches of my diocese without permission as a backdrop for a message antithetical to the teachings of Jesus and everything our churches stand for.”
Trump stalked across the park, weaving past the monuments, with his security detail skittering around him. When he reached the sanctuary, he did not go inside. Instead, he turned toward the camera, and members of his entourage assembled into a tableau so bizarre that it took a moment to understand what was unfolding. He held up a Bible and posed with it for the cameras, clasping it to his chest, bouncing it in his hand, turning it to and fro, like a product on QVC. He did not offer a prayer or read from scripture. On either side of him, his aides fidgeted awkwardly; there was the droopy, basset-hound visage of his enabling Attorney General, William Barr; his unrelenting cheerleader Mark Meadows, the chief of staff; his spokesperson, Kayleigh McEnany, who grinned madly. Apart from Ivanka Trump, none wore masks.
When at last it was over and the President’s expedition had returned to the White House, the church rebelled. In a seething call with CNN, the Right Reverend Mariann Budde, the Episcopal bishop of Washington, said that she was “outraged” by Trump’s use of St. John’s as a prop. “I can’t believe what my eyes are seeing tonight,” she said. “What on earth did we just witness?” Driving away a peaceful crowd with tear gas and weapons in order to stage a photo op was an “abuse of sacred symbols,” she said. A visiting pastor was tear-gassed in the charade. “The President just used a Bible . . . and one of the churches of my diocese without permission as a backdrop for a message antithetical to the teachings of Jesus and everything our churches stand for.”
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 2 June 2020 20:27 (three years ago) link
This is an awful man, waving a book he hasn’t read, in front of a church he doesn’t attend, invoking laws he doesn’t understand, against fellow Americans he sees as enemies, wielding a military he dodged serving, to protect power he gained via accepting foreign interference...— Robert Hendrickson (@FrRHendrickson) June 2, 2020
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 2 June 2020 20:53 (three years ago) link
the Catholic diocese even vomited on him today
― brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 2 June 2020 21:23 (three years ago) link
he's deserved it a hundred times over
― A is for (Aimless), Wednesday, 3 June 2020 03:49 (three years ago) link
when the hand comes out of the sky and finally lifts Donald Flagg away forever, will everything go back in time to November 2016.
― I am a free. I am not man. A number. (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 3 June 2020 03:53 (three years ago) link
Nope
― El Tomboto, Wednesday, 3 June 2020 04:07 (three years ago) link
Flat circle bro
― El Tomboto, Wednesday, 3 June 2020 04:08 (three years ago) link
These are the people that show up to adopt you at the beginning of a Tim Burton movie. pic.twitter.com/5PuTRNewjz— Jesse Case (@jessecase) June 3, 2020
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 3 June 2020 13:32 (three years ago) link
In 3 1/2 years, I’ve done much more for our Black population than Joe Biden has done in 43 years. Actually, he set them back big time with his Crime Bill, which he doesn’t even remember. I’ve done more for Black Americans, in fact, than any President in U.S. history, with...— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) June 3, 2020
....the possible exception of another Republican President, the late, great, Abraham Lincoln...and it’s not even close. The Democrats know this, and so does the Fake News, but they refuse to write or say it because they are inherently corrupt! See “pinned” above.— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) June 3, 2020
pushing the 'ungrateful negro' angle pretty hard I see
― frogbs, Wednesday, 3 June 2020 13:43 (three years ago) link
The late, great, Abraham Lincoln.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 3 June 2020 13:46 (three years ago) link
Please enumerate all those things you've done, oh great one
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Wednesday, 3 June 2020 14:02 (three years ago) link
Trump says on Fox Radio interview he was in the bunker for "tiny" amount of time and it was "much more for an inspection" than for his own safety.— Kevin Liptak (@Kevinliptakcnn) June 3, 2020
― but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 3 June 2020 14:08 (three years ago) link
just a basic and entirely dishonest, worthless individual
― Pinche Cumbion Bien Loco (stevie), Wednesday, 3 June 2020 14:11 (three years ago) link
Just inspectin' the ol' bunker, making sure everything is up to snuff and that there's at least one bullet in the gun.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 3 June 2020 14:17 (three years ago) link
Thank you sir!!
― NAthaniel (cajunsunday), Wednesday, 3 June 2020 14:26 (three years ago) link
again I know we've normalized this guy's brain worms but "I've done more for the blacks than any president in history, besides possibly the one who freed them" while threatening to unload the military on the BLM protests that are occurring in every single state is just killin me right now
― frogbs, Wednesday, 3 June 2020 14:51 (three years ago) link
ah yes, the famous Crime Bill
― wasdnous (abanana), Wednesday, 3 June 2020 15:23 (three years ago) link
"inspecting his bunker" is a euphemism, right
― I am a free. I am not man. A number. (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 3 June 2020 15:38 (three years ago) link
This man started an account where he tweets exactly what the president tweets. He just got suspended. https://t.co/KPd9Od1zTE— Dylan Marron (@dylanmarron) June 3, 2020
― frogbs, Wednesday, 3 June 2020 16:59 (three years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEbjpVnLv2c
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 4 June 2020 04:35 (three years ago) link
pic.twitter.com/aO5lYKogXw— Kim Gordon (@KimletGordon) June 8, 2020
― j., Monday, 8 June 2020 01:36 (three years ago) link
Simply beautiful.
― pomenitul, Monday, 8 June 2020 01:43 (three years ago) link
https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/tv/story/2020-06-08/trump-insecure-tweet-issa-rae-response
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 9 June 2020 19:17 (three years ago) link
Kayleigh McEnany then reads it, says it is “directly from President. He spent a good bit of time working on that.” https://t.co/rLZbwIWmDA— Eli Stokols (@EliStokols) June 10, 2020
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 10 June 2020 19:51 (three years ago) link
Stick it on the fridge imo
― ...Like a Soggy Handburger (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 10 June 2020 19:53 (three years ago) link
Man the extraneous capitalization thing is such a marker for advanced Dunning-Kreuger syndrome.
― DJI, Wednesday, 10 June 2020 20:05 (three years ago) link
sorry, Dunning-Kruger (extraneous letters are some other syndrome)
― DJI, Wednesday, 10 June 2020 20:06 (three years ago) link
But if the suggestion that one (or more! Why not?) could be renamed Fort Trump comes up...
― "...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 10 June 2020 20:12 (three years ago) link
Not only Winning, but also Victory!
― but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 10 June 2020 20:14 (three years ago) link
Thought Brag more like
― nashwan, Wednesday, 10 June 2020 20:39 (three years ago) link
Why does he care about this? Did someone suggest naming a base after a woman or African American or something?
― DJI, Wednesday, 10 June 2020 20:40 (three years ago) link
I guess Legendary and Fabled are apt for someone who cheated their way out of the draft
― dip to dup (rob), Wednesday, 10 June 2020 20:44 (three years ago) link
too bad they weren't named Fort Weakness in Sadtown, Fort Buttz in Buttzonia, Fort Empathy in SJWville, etc. something tells me they'd be a lot more willing to change those names, even considering our military's long storied past of winning, victory, and freedom
― our god is a might god (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 10 June 2020 21:01 (three years ago) link
but instead, they were neutrally named after a bunch of racists who tried to secede over slavery, so there's just no way to even consider it
― our god is a might god (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 10 June 2020 21:02 (three years ago) link
even nascar is less racist than donald trump
BREAKING: The Confederate flag has just been BANNED from all NASCAR events and properties, effective immediately.— Jeff Gluck (@jeff_gluck) June 10, 2020
― our god is a might god (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 10 June 2020 21:03 (three years ago) link
he'll probably issue an executive order demanding Nascar allow the flag
― Dig Dug the police (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 10 June 2020 22:43 (three years ago) link
Not trying to draw a false equivalence because these symbols are legitimately hurtful, but it is nice to see “our” side playing the cultural flashpoint game in an election year rather than just sitting around while the right works itself into a lather over Sesame Street
― Evans on Hammond (evol j), Wednesday, 10 June 2020 22:50 (three years ago) link
yeah going on the offense is a nice changewould be great if that continued in other areas
― Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 10 June 2020 23:28 (three years ago) link
Why does he care about this? Did someone suggest naming a base after a woman or African American or something?― DJI, Wednesday, June 10, 2020 3:40 PM (four hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
― DJI, Wednesday, June 10, 2020 3:40 PM (four hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
David Petraeus article in The Atlantic -> https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/06/take-confederate-names-off-our-army-bases/612832/
― jaymc, Thursday, 11 June 2020 01:41 (three years ago) link
And the dudness continues.
― DJI, Thursday, 11 June 2020 03:02 (three years ago) link
There’s no way that Trump doesn’t know who won the Civil War, right?— Molly Jong-Fast🏡 (@MollyJongFast) June 10, 2020
― j., Thursday, 11 June 2020 07:27 (three years ago) link
get stooped, 2scoops
― reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 11 June 2020 10:37 (three years ago) link
"It was a great war, a beautiful war. There were good people on both sides. The Republican Party won that war, President Lincoln. Not a lot of people know this, but Abraham Lincoln was a Republican"
― Evans on Hammond (evol j), Thursday, 11 June 2020 12:03 (three years ago) link
xpost -- probably something like that
Really hope this is genuine
Wow, that was a wild few minutes where the actual President of the USA was following me on Twitter and even sent me a message. Shame it ended so badly 😭 pic.twitter.com/KejDKTleNu— Liam Bennett (@ljkbennett) June 11, 2020
― groovypanda, Thursday, 11 June 2020 14:00 (three years ago) link
"the democrat party were the REAL racists... but also, what the south was doing was good," xxp
― global tetrahedron, Thursday, 11 June 2020 14:04 (three years ago) link
lol he has the S.S. trending
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 11 June 2020 14:24 (three years ago) link
btw I saw film of George Wallace saying "brave ppl on both sides" of the Civil War last night
― brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 11 June 2020 14:41 (three years ago) link
Here's the transcript of Trump's remarks on how Abraham Lincoln "did good, although it's always questionable, you know, in other words, the end result..." pic.twitter.com/HhvlDqlYCU— Daniel Dale (@ddale8) June 12, 2020
― mookieproof, Friday, 12 June 2020 19:47 (three years ago) link
How many dogs are going to lose their hearing from all this whistling?
― DJI, Friday, 12 June 2020 19:50 (three years ago) link
I hear more and more people are calling him Honest Abe.
― Tom Paine in the membrane (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 12 June 2020 19:50 (three years ago) link
It's going to feel so goddamn good when he's no longer alive.
― ...Like a Soggy Handburger (Old Lunch), Friday, 12 June 2020 19:57 (three years ago) link
I’ve never danced on a grave before, but over the past 3.5 years I’ve really planned out some great choreography for when I get the chance.
― epistantophus, Friday, 12 June 2020 20:08 (three years ago) link
Trump Memorial Grave Dancefloor
― DJI, Friday, 12 June 2020 20:34 (three years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9t4-zDem1Sk
― Tom Paine in the membrane (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 12 June 2020 20:44 (three years ago) link
What are the odds that he has soured on Lincoln a little because he blames him for the Lincoln Project ads?
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 12 June 2020 21:14 (three years ago) link
"Lincoln is being recognized more and more, but I think, frankly, maybe he is being recognized a little too much."
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 12 June 2020 21:15 (three years ago) link
"Not many people know this, but Abe Lincoln's hands were pretty small."
― Tom Paine in the membrane (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 12 June 2020 22:05 (three years ago) link
Internet is saying he was a disaster at the West Point graduation today. Couldn't pronounce MacArthur's, messed up Ulysses Grant, could barely walk down a ramp ...
Is the President of the United States physically well? pic.twitter.com/6R4GExT0KL— The Lincoln Project (@ProjectLincoln) June 13, 2020
Trump still hasn't totally figured out how to drink water pic.twitter.com/IO8CDXmD9i— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) June 13, 2020
Maybe he had a stroke?
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 13 June 2020 22:43 (three years ago) link
Don’t know about the glass, but the ramp thing is clearly the effect of his 2-3 inch shoe lifts (see also: centaur pose)
― assert (MatthewK), Saturday, 13 June 2020 22:50 (three years ago) link
Watch his left leg vs right. The left leg is the one inching forward, the right leg barely bends.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 13 June 2020 22:55 (three years ago) link
He also purses his lips in deep concentration, like a cartoon monkey.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 13 June 2020 22:56 (three years ago) link
it’s fine when he hits the ground, trump famously has neuroses re: stairs and ramps and inclines
― Clay, Saturday, 13 June 2020 23:07 (three years ago) link
What about the water?
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 13 June 2020 23:08 (three years ago) link
he’s just an idiot
― Clay, Saturday, 13 June 2020 23:09 (three years ago) link
It took over a decade for stress to kick Hitler's Parkinson's into overdrive, Trump is much weaker just weaker all around not good.
― Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Saturday, 13 June 2020 23:09 (three years ago) link
the ramp thing is clearly the effect of his 2-3 inch shoe lifts
kind of steep ramp with no handrail. plus there's his famously poor eyesight that he's too vain to correct with glasses. sorry to disappoint, but there's no evidence of a stroke that I can see.
― A is for (Aimless), Saturday, 13 June 2020 23:46 (three years ago) link
The water glass. He can't lift the water to his mouth with his right hand and actually uses his left hand to tip the glass.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 13 June 2020 23:51 (three years ago) link
feel like I've seen that before ages ago
― Dan S, Saturday, 13 June 2020 23:54 (three years ago) link
Really this needs to be a whole set of separate polls because I like my crust crispy, base chewy, cheese gooey and tomato hot. Except when the pizza is of a more American style then the cheese should have some brown and a crispy bits.
― American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Sunday, 14 June 2020 00:04 (three years ago) link
And by the way, it was a beautiful pizza, just beautiful
― bring wayne shorter to the slaughter (Matt #2), Sunday, 14 June 2020 00:12 (three years ago) link
Ed, please, what thread was that meant for, it seems more fun than this one
― Pinche Cumbion Bien Loco (stevie), Sunday, 14 June 2020 06:31 (three years ago) link
all of the threads are the same, this is the same thread, this is the infinite post
― our god is a wee lil god (Karl Malone), Sunday, 14 June 2020 07:00 (three years ago) link
your every post is infinitely heavy, or infinitely light, depending
That was meant for one of the interminable pizza threaads rather than one of the interminable politics threads.
― American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Sunday, 14 June 2020 11:04 (three years ago) link
Understandable. Pizzas are generally circular; so is political discussion.
Both can be warmed-over; both can sometimes be cheesy. Neither should involve pineapple.
― Okay, Boomerang (Ye Mad Puffin), Sunday, 14 June 2020 11:28 (three years ago) link
is this a trap?https://gop.com/the-official-birthday-card/
― Anti-Cop Ponceortium (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Sunday, 14 June 2020 12:42 (three years ago) link
what the fuck
The ramp that I descended after my West Point Commencement speech was very long & steep, had no handrail and, most importantly, was very slippery. The last thing I was going to do is “fall” for the Fake News to have fun with. Final ten feet I ran down to level ground. Momentum!— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) June 14, 2020
― frogbs, Sunday, 14 June 2020 15:16 (three years ago) link
translation: fire whoever put the ramp in
― brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 14 June 2020 15:21 (three years ago) link
it sucks because I legitimately think that tweet is funny but I really don't think it was intended to be
― frogbs, Sunday, 14 June 2020 15:23 (three years ago) link
When he does can we come on to his RIP thread and troll you like Mordy did when Thatcher died?
― Subverted by buggery (Tom D.), Sunday, 14 June 2020 15:23 (three years ago) link
https://www.nybooks.com/daily/2020/06/11/bad-diet-bad-hair-destroy-human-civilizationhttp://cdn.nybooks.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/crumb-bad-hair-diet-1.jpg
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Sunday, 14 June 2020 15:43 (three years ago) link
Ive seen that glass-holding/drinking thing before. On my dad. Who has something akin to Parkinsons.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Sunday, 14 June 2020 23:17 (three years ago) link
I know I've seen him do the same thing with a glass of water before a while ago, maybe during one of his rallies? I remember people commenting on it at the time
― Dan S, Monday, 15 June 2020 00:23 (three years ago) link
The time he did it before, he picked up the bottle with two hands, like an otter with a sippy cup. This was different, because he picked it up with one hand, but he needed the other hand to tip it back. I've never seen that in anybody before.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 15 June 2020 00:27 (three years ago) link
I’ve had to do that before when I was having a panic attack and my hands were shaking so hard I couldn’t handle the glass, but that’s pretty extreme
― Clay, Monday, 15 June 2020 00:32 (three years ago) link
nothing against R Crumb but that comic strip sucks
― k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Monday, 15 June 2020 00:34 (three years ago) link
it's about a C+ Dirty Laundry
― an, uh, razor of love (sic), Monday, 15 June 2020 00:40 (three years ago) link
they coulda paid Eli Valley half the amount and at least gotten something properly grotesque, if not actually funnier
― k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Monday, 15 June 2020 00:42 (three years ago) link
Bolton book delivers
1. Donald Trump's proposed gift to Kim of a signed Elton John CD was an Elton John CD signed by Donald Trump, not a CD signed by Elton John. 2. Trump though Elton John would be thrilled with the publicity the gift would bringhttps://t.co/ACCwf5btXfVia @swin24— Sam Stein (@samstein) June 18, 2020
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Thursday, 18 June 2020 00:59 (three years ago) link
I FUCKING CALLED IT
― Okay, Boomerang (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 18 June 2020 01:15 (three years ago) link
jfc
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 18 June 2020 02:15 (three years ago) link
I was always on the fence about this guy... but this, this absolute scandal involving Elton John, this is enough.
I hereby register: "Dud".
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 18 June 2020 02:44 (three years ago) link
Thank god we have John Bolton to bring us the truth about this fiasco
― El Tomboto, Thursday, 18 June 2020 02:47 (three years ago) link
This Elton John thing might be dud, but you've got to admit, it's classic Trump.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 18 June 2020 02:49 (three years ago) link
Has “Bolton John” already been taken, as a band name?
― El Tomboto, Thursday, 18 June 2020 06:17 (three years ago) link
Bon Jolton
― umsworth (emsworth), Thursday, 18 June 2020 08:13 (three years ago) link
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EavJ-DyXYAEGDDq?format=jpg&name=small
Respect for this bastard for secretly using a google glass to collect damning evidence against Trump
― Scampidocio (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 18 June 2020 08:34 (three years ago) link
https://nos.nl/data/image/2020/06/18/656549/1920x1080a.jpg
― Scampidocio (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 18 June 2020 08:50 (three years ago) link
ok glass - just record everything all of the time, this is one corrupt piece of shit
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 18 June 2020 14:51 (three years ago) link
ok glass - remind me when i need a new sd card, just keep it rolling
Do you get the impression that the Supreme Court doesn’t like me?— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) June 18, 2020
― but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 18 June 2020 15:21 (three years ago) link
looooool
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 18 June 2020 15:22 (three years ago) link
trump to roberts: do you like me? check yes/no
― dip to dup (rob), Thursday, 18 June 2020 15:23 (three years ago) link
liberal champion neil gorsuch still likes you, trump
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 18 June 2020 15:24 (three years ago) link
he's getting better at this...this is up there with his "I will keep drinking that garbage anyway" Coke tweet a couple weeks back
― Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 18 June 2020 15:24 (three years ago) link
That last tweet rhymes neatly with Trump's no doubt faked affection for Citizen Kane, in which the second wife screams, "You don't love me. You want me to love you. 'Sure, I'm Charles Foster Kane, whatever you want, just name it and it's yours. But you've gotta love me!'"
― brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 18 June 2020 17:55 (three years ago) link
It's definitely faked affection. It's about a cranky white man whose parents didn't love him, who amasses all the power and wealth in the world, and who dies with the world hating him. It must really burn his steak that Charles Foster Kane at least got wealthy.
― Dirty Epic H. (Eric H.), Thursday, 18 June 2020 18:05 (three years ago) link
donald trump has never watched citizen kane all the way through. i refuse to believe that
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 18 June 2020 18:07 (three years ago) link
"what's your favorite scene?"that's a personal question, I don't really want to get into that"ok which 1/2 of the film do you prefer, 1st or 2nd?Probably...equal
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 18 June 2020 18:11 (three years ago) link
also CFK thinks it would be fun to run a newspaper
I think it's very arguable that Kane's mother loved him, too
― brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 18 June 2020 18:11 (three years ago) link
i read that he has an edited version he watches with his sons, but it's just the Hong Kong street chases and when Kane fights in the Kumite tournament
― Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 18 June 2020 18:13 (three years ago) link
pic.twitter.com/EZXjvZVDaW— F The 🍊 Messiah (@SteveTimmons15) June 18, 2020
ngl I'm kinda hooked on this song.
― peace, man, Thursday, 18 June 2020 19:56 (three years ago) link
Shit, how did I c&p the wrong tweet?
Welcome to #Tulsa. People are already in line. Also, re-election songs. #MSNBC pic.twitter.com/P96d1HeMbD— Cal Perry (@CalNBC) June 18, 2020
― peace, man, Thursday, 18 June 2020 19:57 (three years ago) link
is this literally the same family from this classic? does it even matter
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7pv7sO5Gng
― global tetrahedron, Thursday, 18 June 2020 20:00 (three years ago) link
Yeah I like this song "Fuck Trump! 2020! Fuck Trump! 2020!"
― Anti-Cop Ponceortium (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 18 June 2020 20:00 (three years ago) link
I sing it to the theme from "Wayne's World."
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 18 June 2020 20:05 (three years ago) link
"There is hope for our nation againMaybe the first time Since weHad Ronald Reagan"
global tetrahedron, this is gold. thank you!
― peace, man, Thursday, 18 June 2020 20:09 (three years ago) link
Leave the ditties to the pros:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxhGxDz-ziY
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 18 June 2020 20:10 (three years ago) link
https://camilleandhaley.bandcamp.com/track/keep-america-great-single?fbclid=IwAR0K8oPve2R5TajAnHzw7K1_b86bmFcGQjOFoaIhP-6q9RaISPzXR2EL1UI
ok, here is the studio version.
― peace, man, Thursday, 18 June 2020 20:14 (three years ago) link
fbclid=IwAR0K8oPve2R5TajAnHzw7K1_b86bmFcGQjOFoaIhP-6q9RaISPzXR2EL1UI
― an, uh, razor of love (sic), Thursday, 18 June 2020 20:18 (three years ago) link
Sorry sic.
There is a video on their facebook page which starts off with the dad refers to one of his daughters as "Candace Owens in the white version, right here".
― peace, man, Thursday, 18 June 2020 20:19 (three years ago) link
re-election songs
Won't you help to sing these songs of trumpdom
― Okay, Boomerang (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 18 June 2020 20:39 (three years ago) link
Trump scrolls through his phone while small business owners share their pandemic stories. pic.twitter.com/zKNJnT781E— The Recount (@therecount) June 18, 2020
― Pinche Cumbion Bien Loco (stevie), Thursday, 18 June 2020 23:19 (three years ago) link
Trump found out he's losing to Biden by 12 points in the latest Fox News poll & started Tweeting like Oprah giving away cars at Christmas😂 pic.twitter.com/QQ4FDkkg7F— Is It Over Yet? (@TaylorGundy) June 19, 2020
― El Tomboto, Friday, 19 June 2020 03:12 (three years ago) link
― time is running out to pitch in $5 (Karl Malone), Friday, 19 June 2020 03:16 (three years ago) link
That’s a clean example of someone tweeting for Trump.
― circa1916, Friday, 19 June 2020 03:55 (three years ago) link
Yes
― El Tomboto, Friday, 19 June 2020 03:58 (three years ago) link
Nope, the requests are coming to him in real time and he's funding them from his own pocket. Incredible.
― assert (MatthewK), Friday, 19 June 2020 04:10 (three years ago) link
what a king
― j., Friday, 19 June 2020 04:11 (three years ago) link
Trump scrolls through his phone while small business owners share their pandemic stories.
https://i1.sinaimg.cn/lx/2010/1202/U5475P622DT20101202150534.jpg
― piscesx, Friday, 19 June 2020 08:51 (three years ago) link
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/06/inside-the-cult-of-trump-his-rallies-are-church-and-he-is-the-gospel/amp
The Bruce Gildan photos are something else.
― Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Friday, 19 June 2020 08:52 (three years ago) link
bruce golden photos are always something else tbf
― scampo, foggy and clegg (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 19 June 2020 09:02 (three years ago) link
gilden dammit
That piece is just too much.
At a rally in Mississippi, Pastor Dave met the Cowboy, who had taken under his wing a group of boys from Kentucky. Pastor Dave and the Cowboy began traveling the Trump trail together, serving as chaperones for the kids, who became known as the Trumped-Up Teens. The Cowboy personally paid for the boys’ airfare and put them up in tents in parking lots outside the arenas.
― nashwan, Friday, 19 June 2020 10:47 (three years ago) link
The Cowboy, Dave says, found the boys in the woods. (Or maybe, he says later, it was actually at a Trump rally in Lexington.)
― nashwan, Friday, 19 June 2020 10:49 (three years ago) link
All the little kids with the trumped-up kicks
― Okay, Boomerang (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 19 June 2020 10:52 (three years ago) link
The Wall Street Journal interview is...something. I haven't read all of it, 'cause they've kept it behind their paywall, but the screenshots on Twitter are like the last words of Dutch Schultz.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Friday, 19 June 2020 13:29 (three years ago) link
jesus that vanity pair piece
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 19 June 2020 13:52 (three years ago) link
pic.twitter.com/MGBKlaDrhm— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) June 19, 2020
these ads are going to be really effective
― treeship., Friday, 19 June 2020 13:58 (three years ago) link
obviously ridiculous -- and rich to have the guy who led the charge against the central park 5 complain about false accusations -- but this is the type of sentiment that will hit hard with people longing for "normalcy."
― treeship., Friday, 19 June 2020 14:03 (three years ago) link
are you serious? no one is watching that two minute plus crap xp
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 19 June 2020 14:05 (three years ago) link
i feel like this general message that the media is out to divide America and trump stands, instead, for solidarity, will be effective. usually he just screeches in a messy way about "fake news!" and "trump derangement syndrome!" so it seems idiotic but actual media people could make it hit home harder. i think this video is a glimpse of that
― treeship., Friday, 19 June 2020 14:08 (three years ago) link
it's funny that trump--the vainest, most coddled, entitled and narcissistic new yorker to ever live in a penthouse--is supposed to be tribune for people like the maga hat wearer in the video, an avatar of traditional, strong, silent and pragmatic masculinity.
― treeship., Friday, 19 June 2020 14:10 (three years ago) link
WSJ interview from yesterday, posted unread
President Trump : How are you?Michael C. Bender: I’m fine, thanks. How are you doing?Mr. Trump: I’m good, I’m good. I think we’re doing good. I just got some good poll numbers.Mr. Bender: Oh, did you?Mr. Trump: I think we’re doing good. So what’s up?Mr. Bender: Do you want to tell me about your poll numbers?Mr. Trump: We’re up in a lot of states. We’re looking very good in Ohio. Very good in Wisconsin. Very good in Florida. Yeah, I think we’re doing well. I mean, we haven’t started campaigning, you know. I have not, essentially, started. I guess you could say it starts on Saturday, right? What’s the word on that?Mr. Bender: You tell me.Mr. Trump: I think it’s gonna be a hell of a night. I’ll tell you.Mr. Bender: Are you looking forward to it?Mr. Trump: Yeah. Are you going?Mr. Bender: No, I’m not this time.Mr. Trump: You should go. Try and go.Mr. Bender: We’re in a rotation to travel on Air Force One. So I’ll be in there soon.Mr. Trump: Oh, I see. It’s rotation. So you’ll be in the next one? The next rally?Mr. Bender: Maybe. I’ll have to look at the rotation. But very soon.Mr. Trump: OK. Good.Mr. Bender: So have you been pushing to do a rally? It’s been a while.Mr. Trump: These are judges, look. (Mr. Trump holds up a stack of documents that, once signed, will formally nominate individual judges.) So we’ll be up to, oh, I don’t know, 254 or something very soon. This a United States district judge, district—New Mexico. All judges. Nobody’s done anything like that one, right?Mr. Bender: That’s a lot of judges.Mr. Trump: The judge situation, yeah. I think we’re doing... Do you mind if I sign this while we talk?Mr. Bender: No. Sounds good. Go ahead. A little multitasking? Well, maybe we can just talk about the rally for just a second. What do you think about some of the risks from coronavirus?Mr. Trump: Well, one of the reasons we chose the location, Oklahoma is they’ve done very well, with respect to the rally—with respect to the…they have a really good arena, but they’ve done very well, with respect to the, I call it the plague. The plague that was sent by China. And I think that, you know, the numbers are very small. They said there’s a spike, the spike is, I wish Mike (Pence) were here because he was showing me the numbers before. It’s like, very few people. And I think they’re in great shape. But I would even say the spike ends, has already ended. So I think we’re going to do very well, you know. I think we’re going to do well. I think it’s time to start our country up again, basically. And could we keep it shut longer? Personally, I don’t think so. I don’t think people would take it. And I think it would be the wrong thing to do. We have great retail numbers. I mean, it’s the early surge. We have great retail numbers. It was supposed to, I guess, 7... they were estimating 7%. We’re going to be 17.7%.So I think that it’s going to be great. I think we’re gonna have a really good third quarter. This quarter, as you know, what’s going on now we’re finishing out the results of what we had to do. So the third quarter’s really our first quarter where we can show something and I think, I mean, based on the numbers, the employment numbers you saw, we’re good. Beyond good. Actually, I think they were reported as the best numbers in history, best employment quarter in history. Best employment month in history.Mr. Bender: How low can you get the employment rate by November?Mr. Trump: Well, I think we can get tremendous numbers of jobs by November. I think by the end of the year, we’re going to have a vast number of jobs, largely…shortly thereafter, we should be almost where we were. And I think ultimately next year is going to be a fantastic year. I think next year is going to be a really fantastic year. You know, I was predicting the V, right? You know that. From the beginning. And now everybody’s saying I’m right. And we’ll see. We’ve got tremendous momentum. Now, it’ll be interesting to see where that momentum goes now. We were riding really straight through. Doing great. And then we got hit by the China virus. And frankly, we’re starting a little bit of a different campaign. Now it’s about jobs. Before it was about other things, but basically before it was about keeping it where it was. Now it’s about having it go up. And it will go up. I think you’ll see big GDP increases. I think you’ll see big jobs increases. And I think you’re going to see big retail sales increases, which you’ve already seen. So if you look at the two, the two stats that have come out…Two weeks ago, you had the job numbers, which were the biggest monthly gain in history. And yesterday, you had the retail sales numbers, which was the biggest, the biggest gain—17.7%—in history. And the estimate, I guess, was 6%, 6 to 7%. And it was 17.7%. So the numbers are looking much better than people thought.Mr. Bender: That’s true. I’m sure you’ve seen the statistics, though, about how it relates to elections.Mr. Trump: About how what does?Mr. Bender: Jobs numbers and unemployment.Mr. Trump: How it would relate to my chances for reelection? Yeah, you know, the sad thing is that I was sailing. You understand? That was a free shot. Now, I mean, if you look at it, people say, “He got us there once, he’s going to get us there again.” That was the greatest economy, the greatest job numbers we’ve ever had. We were up to almost 160 million jobs. Nobody was ever close. But now I just have to start building it up again. We started. And I think that the numbers are beyond anybody’s expectations.Mr. Bender: Do you think you can get the unemployment rate below 8% by Election Day?Mr. Trump: I don’t know. We’ll have a lot of jobs before November 3. I mean, all I can say is this: We will have created a lot of jobs prior to November 3. Tremendous number of jobs, a tremendous increase, I expect a tremendous increase in GDP. And we’ll be heading you know, for the top. We’ll be back. And we’ve had a lot of advantages, a lot of experience. We did it once and we’ll do it again. Bottom line is we did it once, and you would agree. Best job numbers, best economy, best everything we’ve ever had. China, we were beating China badly.China, last year, would have had the worst year they’ve ever had in many, many years and decades. And that was because I put a lot of tariffs on China that they never wanted. And I don’t want them to have bad years, but they happened to have a very bad year last year. And that’s before the virus. Now, of course they didn’t even report their numbers this year. You know, they refused to report their numbers, right? But last year was a bad year for China, one of one of the very bad years that they’ve had. And that’s largely because I put tariffs on. Nobody ever put tariffs on them. Nobody ever did anything to China. China walked away from Obama-Biden. No tariffs, no downside, no nothing. Whereas we took in billions of dollars of tariffs, and they were all put on by me. And they don’t follow the phase one deal—it’s a phase one deal—if they don’t follow it, I would substantially raise the tariffs, if that were necessary. So far, I think they’re…I haven’t had the final report but it looks like they are. They’re buying a lot.Mr. Bender: Speaking of China, there is a lot about China in John Bolton’s new book. And trade. And he makes a lot of accusations about you prioritizing trade over the enforcement of sanctions when it comes to ZTE, and Huawei.Mr. Trump: Well look how tough I’ve been on Huawei. Nobody has been tougher than me on Huawei. Look at what’s going on with Huawei. I mean, we’ve convinced other nations not to do business with them. Whether it’s U.K. or Italy or others. We can give you all the list. Nobody has ever been so tough on a company as I have to Huawei. … So, nobody has been tough on Huawei like me, and there’s nobody been tough on China like me. Now, I don’t know what Bolton has said. I haven’t seen it yet.But Bolton is a disgruntled guy who made tremendous mistakes. He was one of the architects of the Middle East policy. And the only thing I liked about Bolton was that everybody thought he was crazy. And frankly, when you walk into the room with him, you’re in a good negotiating position. Because they figure you’re going to war if John Bolton was there. He wanted to go to war with everybody. He never saw a war he didn’t like. He made a tremendous mistake. You know, he and the people that he was pushing, when he went into the Middle East, when he went into Iraq That was a terrible mistake. There were no weapons of mass destruction. That was John Bolton.He wanted the job so badly. He couldn’t get approved by the Senate. It was a non-Senate confirmed…he couldn’t get a Senate confirmed job. And by the way, he didn’t the first time. Did you know that? He wasn’t Senate-confirmed the first time. No. But I view him as a disgruntled employee. Very unhappy. Hated to leave. He was basically a man who was not happy to be leaving. Was not happy to be leaving. He had a lot of policy disputes, he and I.And after the first month or so, you know, I asked him one question. I said, “So, do you think you did the right thing by going into Iraq?” He said, “Yes.” And that’s when I lost him. And that was early on. That’s when I lost him. But no, I disagreed with much of the stuff he said. He was one of many people. I liked listening to many people, and then doing whatever is the right thing to do.Mr. Bender: You didn’t ask him about Iraq before you brought him into the White House? If he regretted that?Mr. Trump: No, but it didn’t…I knew all about his policy on Iraq. But that didn’t matter, frankly. Because he made a terrible mistake. And so did everybody else involved in Iraq and the Middle East, frankly. I never thought it was the right thing to do. And I’ve been proven right. But when he told me he still thinks it was the right thing to do, and was unable to explain it to me, I said, “Explain that to me, because I don’t think you can.’ And he could not explain it to me. So I said, “Do you say that just to make yourself feel good? Or do you say that because you really believe it?” He said, “I really believe it.” I said, “Well, then you’ve lost me because it’s just wrong.”Mr. Bender: You’ve talked about how your viewpoint on the trade deal has changed a little bit after coronavirus.Mr. Trump: Yeah.Mr. Bender: In the book, Bolton says that you wanted to lift the penalties off ZTE as part of a trade negotiation.Mr. Trump: Well, he wasn’t here there for that. ZTE was my deal. I put the fine on them. And I’ve never seen anything quite like it. I essentially closed them up. That was me. Obama didn’t do it. That was me. I closed them up. And then we settled with them. We let them make a deal fairly shortly thereafter. They paid over a billion dollar fine, and agreed to board changes and all sorts of other things. So an unbelievable deal. It was short. Do you know what I’m talking about? I don’t know exactly what the timing was. And then immediately the Democrats say, Oh, you should have gotten more. I said, wait a minute, this is my deal. So I closed them up. What was it, Michael, like $1.2 billion?Mr. Bender: I don’t remember exactly.Mr. Trump: We’ll go back and find it. Something like $1.2 billion. So I close them up. They paid a tremendous amount in fines. I don’t know what it was. I think it was over a billion dollars. And they opened up. But we also got them to change their board as I remember it and the management and other things. So ZTE was great. Now, as always the Democrats, when you go in and you say “Hey, I got a billion dollars or whatever was...”Kayleigh McEnany, White House press secretary: It was $1.3 billion.Mr. Trump: $1.3 billion For nothing. Listen to this: I closed them, essentially. I said, we’re not going to do business. They come and ask: how do we get out of this? I ask them for a lot of money. They pay $1.3 billion and other things, not just $1.3. And then the Democrats say, Oh, you could have gotten more. They didn’t do it. Do you understand? They didn’t do it. I did it. So we pick up $1.3 billion in fines. And it’s an amazing deal. Now the Democrats will say, Oh, because .... Iif by the way, if I got $10 billion in fines, if I got $200 billion, if I ended up owning Beijing for $1, they would have said: The deal is not good enough, because that’s what they always say.Any deal you make, they’ll say it’s good enough. Like with the policemen. They say, Oh, you could have made a better deal, you know. And perhaps I’d say the same thing with them.Mr. Bender: I guess I wonder about your perspective on the trade deal now, especially given the moves you made on ZTE and, in the book, Bolton says that you effectively gave your blessing to President Xi to continue building camps for the Uighur Muslims.Mr. Trump: No, that’s not true. That’s not true.In fact, I approved a deal—a reprimand, etc, etc—from Congress. That’s been done. It’s been all done. It’s been signed. But I approved. The deal came in from Congress recently. And it’s been going along in Congress. I could have killed that very easily. All I would have to do is make a statement that I’m against it.Mr. Bender: That was today that you signed that.Mr. Trump: No, but this has been going in Congress for a long time. And I could have fought it. And I would have won. But I didn’t fight that deal.Mr. Bender: Bolton and Pompeo and Pence all wanted you to sanction China for detention of these minorities, but you were reluctant because of what it meant for the trade deal. And I guess what I’m wondering is now that you sort of have a different viewpoint on the trade deal, do you regret...Mr. Trump: No, I think the trade deal is a great deal. But ever since we got hit with the Chinese plague, I feel different toward everything having to do with China. And I’ve always been hardline on China.Bolton never told me to do tariffs on China. Bolton never thought you could get any tariffs done on China. Bolton has no economic sense. Bolton never thought you could get tariffs on China. They paid us billions of dollars. I gave our farmers $12 billion and $16 billion dollars out of tariffs I took in from China, which were much more than that. You understand? Because they were targeted. The farmers were targeted. Bolton never thought you could get—most people never thought you could get tariffs. I even, in the deal, we left a lot of the tariffs in the deal—big portions of the tariffs. I think 25%. Nobody thought you could make a deal like that. Because we got the deal, and we got the tariffs. But since we got hit with the virus, I have a very different perspective on China. Very different perspective. And I view it very differently. But nobody has been tough on China like I am. And you know that.Look under Obama and Biden, they got away with murder. This should have been... What I’ve been doing to China should have been done a long time ago. Obama-Biden never... They just came in and it was pillage. It was terrible. And they should have done something like what I’ve done. But we’ve taken in billions of dollars and by the way, they devalued their currency in order to pay for the tariffs. They devalued and they put up, they paid money. Otherwise their product wouldn’t have sold because the tariffs would have made their product too expensive. But the deal we made with China was a good deal, but I feel differently. The ink was barely dry when we got hit with the virus, and I view that I view that whole deal differently now. I view the relationship with China differently thanMr. Bender: I do want to ask a couple questions about China. But just one more Bolton’s book, and then I’ll move on. Pompeo has a very big role in this book. Bolton writes that Pompeo told him multiple times he was close to resignation. He says Pompeo passed him a note during your meeting with Kim Jong Un saying that you were full of shit.Mr. Trump: Who is full of shit?Mr. Bender: You, sir.Mr. Trump: I would doubt that. Does he have the note? Let me see the note.(Mark Meadows, the White House staff chief, enters the Oval Office.)Mr. Meadows: Mr. Bender.Mr. Bender: Mr. Meadows.Mr. Trump: No, I would doubt that. I have a very good relationship with Pompeo.Mr. Bender: That’s what I was wondering. There is so much in here on Pompeo, I was wondering if this is a Tillerson moment for Pompeo, when things became so strained between you and Tillerson.Mr. Trump: I have no strain with Pompeo. No, I have a very good relationship with Pompeo.Mr. Meadows: Extremely good.Alyssa Farah, White House communications director: He’s going to push back on that.Mr. Trump: No, I would doubt that. I have a very good relationship with Pompeo. He’s right now having an important meeting with somebody at their request. Do you know that?Mr. Bender: No, I didn’t know that. With who?Mr. Trump: No. Now, I have a very good relationship with... The one who has a bad relationship with Pompeo was Bolton. Did you know that? Pompeo and Bolton had a terrible relationship. What, you don’t see that? How does that come out in the book?Mr. Bender: Bolton casts a critical eye toward just about everybody in your White House.Mr. Trump: Everybody in the White House hated John Bolton, that I could see. There might have been some people. (To Mr. Meadows:) Did you deal with him at all? Yeah, you did. You think he’s terrible.Mr. Meadows. Yes, I did. John Bolton is very self important. And you can quote me on that.Mr. Trump: And not very smart.Mr. Meadows: The best way this book could be described is, “In The Room Where It Didn’t Happen.” Because nothing that he touched ever happened, because he couldn’t find consensus.Mr. Trump: And with a short period of time, as we all got to know him because I didn’t know him very well. I didn’t know him at all before this. I figured, eh, he’s a hardliner. I like having a hardliner. He’s a hardliner, but I call him a stupid liner, because it was so foolish.I could tell you things that he wanted to do that if we would have done them, we would have ended up on our own Iraq, a nice new version of Iraq.Mr. Bender: What’s an example of that?Mr. Trump: I don’t want to say. I’ll have to say when I write my book, but nobody cares about Bolton. I would say this, look, he was somebody that wasn’t liked at all, and wasn’t respected very much. As we got to know him, he was respected less and less. Personally, I thought he was crazy. And other than the fact that he goes out and writes a book when he shouldn’t be writing a book, you know. You don’t leave and then write a book. And he’s got, you know, I think he’s got a lot of legal problems for doing it. I think he’s got probably a lot of legal problems. He should not have done what he did. But you don’t leave the office and go out and write a book about a current administration that’s doing well, but about a current administration. Who would ever think of doing something like that?Mr. Bender: So, he does address that in the book. And the reason he says he wants this book out now is to essentially warn conservatives. He describes your reelection as the last guardrail on you in the White House, and worries that Democrats may enjoy your second term more than conservatives. Do you want to address that point and...Mr. Trump: Well, sure. Look, I’m signing now, in front of you, judges. All judges. I won’t give you the names. All judges... Texas, New York, Minnesota. I’m signing off judges. We’re going to have potentially close to 300 judges including DC It’ll be close to 300. Nobody’s close. They’re all conservaative, highly respected judges. They’re going to be there for many years. They’re all young. They’re all conservative. They’re all very smart. And they’re getting great reviews. If I did nothing else, that’s good. Plus, I put two Supreme Court judges in that are excellent people. But if I did nothing else, and it’s really amazing because if I wasn’t here, those judges go to super liberal, young, smart judges, okay? Super liberal radical left. And you won’t have your Second Amendment any longer. And you will have a view on life that’s much different than the view on life now. That will change. And you won’t be spending money on the military. I’ve totally rebuilt the military. It’s the strongest it’s ever been. All made in the U.S.A.er $2 trillion, right. I created the Space Force. I got Anwar done, that even Reagan couldn’t get done. I got the biggest tax cuts in the history of our country. I got the biggest regulation cuts in the history of our country. I’ve done things that no administration has ever done in the first three and a half years.Mr. Bender: It’s been a very active four years. I can...Mr. Trump: No, give me a list. Look at her (Mr. Trump’s assistant enters the Oval Office with a list of Mr. Trump’s accomplishments.) She’s so unbelievable. She is so quick. I look up and she’s walking in with a list. Look at that.Take this and read it. OK, because honestly, this is page after page of things that I’ve done. Just take this and read it. It’s pretty amazing. Added 2.5 million jobs. This is recently: 2.5 million jobs in May shattering the expectation that we will lose 10 million jobs. We’re going to lose 10 million, unfortunately, for the critics, we Retail Sales up 17.7%, which is the largest in history, job gains last month was the largest increase ever. Nearly 300 jobs were created for African-Americans last month. 75% of small businesses are now open. That’s a big number. It was estimated would be a much lower number. S&P 500 had the best 50 days in history. The was a week before actually... And this was a good week. So I guess that continues. Nasdaq hit 10,000 for the first time, an all time record. Nasdaq, that was three, four days ago. In the middle of the pandemic, not in the middle toward the end of the pandemic. In my opinion. Hope I’m right. Saved the New York Times The Washington Post and cable television. I put that in for fun, but I did, it’s true. Because when I’m here when I’m not here... Maybe not The Wall Street Journal, but much of the media is going out of business. Because if you have to cover sleepy Joe Biden who’s dead from the neck up, if you have to cover sleepy Joe Biden, I don’t think it’s gonna be too exciting.Mr. Bender: Well, what would you say is a new priority for the second term? One new initiative.Mr. Trump: Well, it would have been much different if you asked me that question three months ago, because the economy was really rocking. And I would have been cutting debt. I would have been cutting expenses. I would have been cutting a lot of things. It would have been, you know, different. Now the new priorities: Building the economy to a point where it was plus, because we’re gonna have a better economy than it was. Because of certain things I’m doing. So if you would have asked me the question three months ago, I would have said reducing debt and building a, you know, just a continuation of what I’m doing now. Now you’re asking me the question, and now it’s building a really strong, powerful economy. And I think next year we can have a better... we can have one of the best years we’ve ever had.And don’t forget so far I’ve been right. Now, you know, you may come to see me in a couple of months... And Michael’s always been fair, I don’t mind, you know, seeing you. You’ve always treated me well. Sometimes he’s treated me fairly. But when I explained it to him, he’s treated me fairly. When I’m not here to explain it to him, it’s a little different, I told them.I said there’s going to be a V. And everybody is now saying that I was right.Mr. Bender: You’ve kind of described it as a snapback, that once the economy reopens all these jobs come back. But is there something you plan on...Mr. Trump: That’s because it was an artificial closing. It wasn’t like a bad, horrible recession that takes years to develop and it just starts tumbling downhill, and it takes 15 years to recover as it did with the Great Depression and some really big recessions and it would take 10,15 years to recover.Mr. Bender: A lot of economists say it will take a while to come back. Several decades of job growth have been lost in the last couple months. My question is whether you have a new initiative in mind to re-energize the economy, to bring back jobs and get people back to work, in a second term?Mr. Trump: So aside from everything else when we got rid of Nafta, which was a disaster. We have a great USMCA now. And in addition, we are making much better trade deals that we had in the past. If you look at Japan, they’re buying $40 billion worth of stuff. And building many car plants here. Germany is doing the same thing. Germany has to do what they’re doing, you know, building plants. They’re always difficult, frankly. And we’re reducing our troops in Germany because it’s costing us a lot of money and they’re delinquent on their payments. You know, they’re delinquent on their NATO payments. They owe a lot of money. Germany owes a lot of money. They don’t pay their bills. They’re supposed to be paying 2% and they’re paying 1%. If that, and it’s not fair. So we’re supposed to defend Germany from Russia, right? And yet Germany pays Russia billions of dollars for energy. How does that work? Right? So, you know. So, we’ve made, we’ve made great trade deals. And I was about to make the best trade deal of all, we’re all set to go. and then we got hit by the pandemic. If we didn’t get hit by the pandemic, we would have some additional trade deals that would have been unbelievable, including with the European Union.But instead of doing that, everybody was being very conservative and heading for the shelters.Mr. Bender: You’ve talked about holding China accountable for coronavirus. Do you think they sat on that information about the virus in order to tank other economies around the world?Mr. Trump: They did something because if you look, they had very little outbreak, although now they seem to have an outbreak in Beijing, which is interesting, as of yesterday. But everybody knew they had it. I acted very early. I closed our country to China.By the way, Bolton disagreed. He thought we shouldn’t do it, okay? He didn’t think and you know, I was in a room full of people. You were there. And of the people, I don’t know of anybody that thought I should do it. That was a decision I made because I was seeing and hearing that China has a big problem. So they have a big problem, a big contagious problem, a problem of contagion to put it a different way, right? And I closed our country in January, the end of January, I closed our country to China. Nancy Pelosi was dancing in the streets of Chinatown at the end of February.Mr. Bender: Did you consult with Bolton on coronavirus?Mr. Trump: No. I lost respect for Bolton’s intellect fairly early in the process. It wasn’t a big deal to me because frankly, he was good for me to use in negotiations because everyone thought he was crazy and he would go to war.Mr. Bender: Was that effective? Was there an instance where you felt having Bolton in the room paid off in a negotiation?Mr. Trump: When people saw Bolton in the room, they figured probably he was stupid enough to go to war all the time. You know, he was a guy that I could tell you, if I would have listened to him, you and I would be in World War Three right now. He’s crazy. He’s crazy, and I think he’s not smart. But you know what I’m talking about right?Mr. Meadows: Yes I do, sir.Mr. Trump: He wanted to do things that were insane.Mr. Bender: Like what?Mr. Trump: I don’t want to tell you that. Maybe I’ll tell you, you know, at a later date. But he had no touch. He had no feel. And I think he, you know, just had little intellect. He was also somebody who, just, people didn’t like him. Nobody in the office liked him. Nobody wanted to be with him. Nobody wanted to talk much with him. And I realized early on, as I was saying before to Michael, was when I asked him the question, so John, you were one of the people that were really pushing hard to go into the Middle East, to go into Iraq. Would you do it again? He said, Yes. And that’s where I said this guy is crazy.Mr. Bender: That was only after a month?Mr. Trump: Yeah, I don’t know. But it was very early on. I was talking to him. I said, So was that a mistake? I said, and it’s okay to admit you made a mistake, although that’s a big one. That’s a beauty. And I said, Do you think it was a mistake? And he said, No, I think it was the right thing to do. And I said, You know, you can’t explain that. You just can’t explain it. So anyway,Mr. Bender: Maybe points for honesty?Mr. Trump: That’s very interesting. Or maybe points for stupidity? I can figure out which. Oh, wait, you take this. (Mr. Trump offers his print out of accomplishments.)You can add on to what I said. Tried to deal with a Nafta. By the way. One thing. It wasn’t Bolton that killed al Baghdadi. It wasn’t Bolton that killed Soleimai. … Bolton might say, oh, Trump wasn’t tough enough on China and wasn’t tough enough on this. I know that kind of shit, because he lied a lot. He is a liar. Nobody was tougher in China. Nobody was tougher on Iran. Nobody’s been tougher on anything. We’ll see how North Korea works out. … It’s early in that whole situation. So we’ll see. You know, in the meantime, he expected to be in war. OK. We’re not in war. What have we given up? Nothing. Have we reduced sanctions? No. Have we done anything? No. And the fake news video—total phony media would say, Oh, Trump’s give it up a lot. Really what have I given up? Nothing. … Okay. A few more Mike.Mr. Bender: Just a couple on coronavirus and I want to make sure to as you a little about your police reforms.Mr. Trump: On coronavirus, I acted very quickly, and I acted early. And they can’t get over it. Number one. Number two. If I didn’t act, we would have had 3 million deaths. And instead we’re at 110,000. And we could be heading to a number that’s, you know, higher than 150,000 to 200,000, it could be ending all now depending on how it goes. We’re doing very well on vaccine. We’re doing very well on therapeutic. But if I didn’t do what we did, we would have anywhere from 1.5 million to 3 million deaths. That would be 20 times more than we’ll end up having, you know? 10 to 30 times more.Mr. Bender: It sounds like you’re very tuned in to what’s happening in China and in the second waves that are happening there. There was a spike a couple weeks ago in Wuhan…Mr. Trump: Well, first of all they don’t... We did an incredible thing, not since the Second World War. We had very few ventilators in our country. You couldn’t get them because every country was desperate for ventilators. We went into the ventilator-making business and now we have thousands of ventilators being made every week. And we’re helping other countries with ventilators. On the medical equipment, same thing. We’re with making a lot. I was up in Maine the other day. I don’t know if you were there. The lines of people on the street in Maine... That was a swab plant. But we’re making a lot of our own stuff now. And very importantly, our testing is so far advanced of any other country. And that’s a good thing and a bad thing. Here’s what’s bad about it.We tested I think, 20 some odd million people now, right? No country is even close to that. You look at 4 million, maybe 5 million in Germany, no country’s even close to 20 million. The problem is when you test, you’re finding cases, you’re finding kids that had it and you know, etc, etc.Mr. Bender: Why is that a problem?Mr. Trump: Well, the problem is because we’re showing cases whereas other countries that don’t have testing capacity, they don’t show cases. So they say the United States has more cases than anybody else. That’s because we do more testing. If we use the same testing that I used in China, or in Iran, or in some of these larger countries, it would blow us away. First of all, China doesn’t report it’s testing.…So I do say they contained it. Now, just the last little day and it’s all of a sudden turning that maybe it wasn’t contained. But it seems to have been contained in China. And why was it contained in China? But the Chinese people that were infected go to Europe and go all over the world?Mr. Bender: What’s the answer to that question, Mr. President?Mr. Trump: Well, that’s what I’m trying to find out.Mr. Bender: What do you think it is?Mr. Trump: There is a very good chance it was incompetence. There was a very good chance it was a mistake. And there’s a chance that it was intentional.Mr. Bender: You think that is a lesser chance?Mr. Trump: Yeah I think so. Because I don’t think I don’t think they would do that. But you never know. But it has had an impact.Mr. Bender: And that would be to spread the economic consequences around the globe?Mr. Trump: Correct. They’re saying, man, we’re in a mess. The United States is killing us. Don’t forget, my economy during the last year and a half was blowing them away. And the reason is the tariffs.Mr. Bender: Is that your gut on that? Or do you have intelligence that they may have pushed this beyond their border?Mr. Trump: It’s my sense that could have happened. I hope not. And I hope we’ll be able to find it out.Mr. Bender: The Wuhan question I wanted to ask about the spike there, which resulted in them testing almost all 11 million people in 9 days. If there was a second spike in New York or Michigan, would you push to test everyone in New York, everyone in Michigan?Mr. Trump: No, I wouldn’t. I personally think testing is overrated, even though I created the greatest testing machine in history. I’ve created the greatest testing machine in history. And I think testing is overrated.Mr. Bender: Why is that?Mr. Trump: Because I think you’ll have it and you’ll test. I’m not saying testing is bad. And certainly you test people and you want to see whether or not they have it. But the testing can lead to a lot of mistakes also. Look, if we didn’t test all the cases that we’re reporting, you wouldn’t know about any of those cases. In many ways, it makes us look bad. The fact that we’re so good at something makes us look bad. But having the ability to test is…has helped us a lot. But don’t forget we report every single death.…We report every case. So, if we test 20 times more than some other country, we’re going to find cases. They call them cases. And that’s only because our testing is much better.Mr. Bender: You think testing is overrated because it adds to the caseload?Mr. Trump: No, not for that reason. I just think that what you have to do is be careful, regardless. You have to be careful. You have a certain population... we now know that elderly people, especially elderly people that have a problem such as heart disease, or various…they’re literally listed, okay? They’re literally listed. Diabetes, heart disease, I think would be number one and two. But they’re listed. If they’re elderly, and they have those diseases, it’s not easy. It’s not gonna be pleasant. OK? So we know where we should protect. We had a number of governors that did a very, very poor job with respect to nursing homes, a very, very poor job. And they should have known better.Mr. Bender: You also don’t seem to like masks very much. Do you think people are protesting you when they wear them?Mr. Trump: Masks are a double-edge sword. People touch them. And they grab them and I see it all the time. They come in, they take the mask. Now they’re holding it now in their fingers. And they drop it on the desk and then they touch their eye and they touch their nose. No, I think a mask is a…it’s a double-edged sword. It’s a double-edged sword. I see Biden. It’s like his whole face is covered. It’s like he put a knapsack over his face. He probably likes it that way. He feels good that way because he does. He seems to feel good in a mask, you know, feels better than he does without the mask, which is a strange situation.Mr. Bender: You’ve commented on Biden’s mask a few times, and a couple of reporters who wear masks. Do you view that as a protest of you? Do you feel like people wear masks to show their disapproval of you?Mr. Trump: It could be, yeah. It could be. But it could also be they feel better about it. I mean, I’m okay with it. Look, I’m okay with it. But the mask is a double-edged sword and I see it. People come in, they’re talking through the mask for hours. They probably don’t clean them after, you know, they get a little cocky, right? Then they take the mask, they put their finger on the mask, and they take them off, and then they start touching their eyes and touching their nose and their mouth. And then they don’t know how they caught it.Mr. Bender: One of my sisters is a nurse and she’s described this as a false sense of security that it gives people.Mr. Trump: It’s possible. It could be a false sense of security. But think of it, they’re touching it. I watch them all day long. They’re playing with it. You watch some of these politicians, they start talking, they take their fingers and they put them inside the mask and they rip it down. Now their fingers are infected. Potentially. And then they touch their nose. They touch their eyes, they touch their mouth. Voilà.Mr. Bender: So it’s okay if your supporters wear masks at the rally?Mr. Trump: Absolutely. They can wear them or not. I want them to be happy. We’re gonna have a good time. Yeah, I want them to be happy.Mr. Bender: What happens if your supporters get sick at one of these rallies?Mr. Trump: Well, people have to know that, yes, you do. But it’s tiny. You know, it’s a very small percentage. We did the right thing. We closed it down. We closed it down. Expensive. But you can’t put a price on saving millions of lives. We saved millions of lives. You know, a lot of people say herd. Well how did herd work for Sweden? No good. How did herd work for Brazil? No good.Mr. Bender: Let me put it in personal terms. Would you be okay if a family member of yours, if Ivanka wanted to go sit in the crowd at your rally?Mr. Trump: Yeah I would. I would be. Well, first of all, she’s young. And this really is a disease…I was with the governor of New Jersey the other night, because he wants to do a big bridge in New Jersey that they’ve been trying to finance for 50 years. And I approved it. Very expensive bridge in New Jersey. They need it. It’s been a real problem. You know the bridge. And he was telling me something that was shocking. He said they’ve had.. how many people died in New Jersey?Ms. Farah: I don’t know exactly. But New York and New Jersey are one-quarter of the casesMr. Trump: Thousands of people. They lost one person under 18. Hey, would you find out the number of deaths in New Jersey? The state of New Jersey. It was only a few days ago. So they lose one person under 18, he said. I said that’s amazing. That’s why the schools have to open. But the people that are at risk are our older professors, and they’re gonna have to be careful, Maybe not be there initially or maybe have, you know, be behind some kind of a protective shield.But this was brought to us by China. Just came in from China, and should have never happened because they could have stopped it.Mr. Bender: Can I ask just a couple questions on the George Floyd fallout?Mr. Trump: SureMr. Bender: Do you think that there’s systemic racism in the country?Mr. Trump: In the country?Mr. Bender: Yes. In America.Mr. Trump: Hopefully not. But there’s always something going on that’s bad, because there’s always something going on. Here, let me just see that for a second. (Mr. Trump’s assistant hands the president a chart with the number of coronavirus deaths, which total about 12,800.)OK. Yeah. So, that number. When he mentioned he said 12,500. So he said at 12,500, one person died under the age of 18. So I think that a lot of these are older persons. So I’m very happy I’m young and in perfect condition. OK?Mr. Bender: You said you hope there’s not systemic racism. Do you think there is?Mr. Trump: I would like to think there is not. Yeah, I would like to think there is not such systemic racism. And it would be whatever I can do to make myself correct on that thought, I’d like to do it. Now, unfortunately, in the real world, there is some. But I would like to, whatever I could do to reduce that or get rid of it, I’d be very happy with.Are you asking in police departments or the U. S.?Mr. Bender: I meant systemic racism. In police departments, in hiring practices...Mr. Trump: Yeah, I’d like to think there is not but unfortunately, there probably is some. I would also say it’s very substantially less than it used to be.Mr. Bender: How are you thinking about some of these issues? I know your position on law and orders is very clear. You’ve had some public events with the police. You had some victim’s families in here yesterday. But when it comes to...Mr. Trump: By the way that was a very impactful moment. The people I met were incredible people.Mr. Bender: Impactful in what way? What did you take away from that?Mr. Trump: Meeting the parents, in most cases, parents. of young people, sons in many of the cases, a daughter in one case, that were killed is devastating. To see the parents and so needless, I mean, it should never have happened. I met with a large number of parents that were just, I mean, their lives have been torn apart.Mr. Bender: Did any of those cases resonate with you? Any particular story that stands out?Mr. Trump: All of them.Mr. Bender: Was there one that stood out?Mr. Trump: All of them. Ahmed. Ahmad. He is the young man who was running. It was just sad to see. The mother was a fantastic woman. Made a great impression. They all made a great impression on me. In fact, after that I had the speech with the law enforcement. So we had two meetings. And it was very interesting because they were very different meetings, very important meetings. But the impact of meeting the parents was very important.Mr. Bender: The meeting with families was private. And it sounds like everyone wanted to keep it that way, for a number of reasons. But when it comes to healing the country, is that something you think about and have you thought about ways to try to bring people back together?Mr. Trump: So I think, Michael, that the best way I can do it, it’s leadership. But I want to bring the economy back. Because if I can bring the economy back, African-American unemployment was the best it has ever been, by far. Number of jobs overall. Hispanic, Asian. But if I can bring the economy back, we’re gonna have great jobs, we’re gonna have families where life is going to be a lot easier. Their life is just going to be better. And I was there. We had the greatest economy. We had the largest increases and, you know, 3.2% increases, It’s unheard of what we did, and I think you would have seen a lot of people starting to come together. And now I’m starting that process all over again because Wuhan. I can give you 12, I can give you 15 different names for that. We can call it China. We can call it Wuhan. We can call it many different things. But because of the virus, it came from China, I have to start that process all over again.Mr. Bender: Is there any part of you that wishing you hadn’t sent the tweet about the shooting starts when the looting starts?Mr. Trump: Well, that tweet is viewed both ways. And by the way, that wasn’t from some mayor in Miami, there was a man named Frank Rizzo from New Jersey, was a rough guy. He ran a rough operation, but he didn’t have a lot of looting, I can tell you. But that is viewed both two ways. Number one, it can be viewed as a threat. And number two, it can be viewed as a fact that if people start looting, then end up getting shot. And that’s usually a fact. Now it’s less of a fact in a politically correct society. Because I saw a lot of looting and these kids would just walk out with television. Nobody was doing anything.Mr. Bender: Did you view it as a fact or a threat?Mr. Trump: I viewed it that, generally speaking, it could be a combination of both. And look, I think that it’s not right, that police offices run by weak liberal Democrats, allow kids to break into stores and walk out with television sets and put them in the back of a car. Which is incredible. Where does the car come from? But, you know, I saw tremendous looting. And I think it’s terrible. There was tremendous damage done. Small businesses were ruined. Lives were ruined by that and people were killed. Nobody mentions that. They don’t say, Well, what about the people that got killed on the other side? They’re more saying, Oh, what a horrible threat. But no, I view it to me, it would normally mean that when somebody walks into a store and walks out carrying a television set on his back, he’s putting himself in great danger, in theory. But then you look at a place like Seattle, where they take over a major part of a major city. And the mayor says, well, it’s going to be a love fest, and the governor does nothing and doesn’t even... says he doesn’t know about it, but on that he’s lying obviously because he knew about it. But he actually said, you saw that, he said, Gee, I didn’t know nothing about that. That’s a terrible thing. That’s a terrible precedent.Mr. Bender: You did move your rally off Juneteenth. Can you talk about why you did that?Mr. Trump: Well, I did that out of respect because I had two African-American friends and supporters. And most people, and I went to a lot of people, they didn’t they had not heard the term Juneteenth.Mr. Bender: Do you know what it was?Mr. Trump: I did something good. I made it famous. I made Juneteenth very famous. It’s actually an important event, it’s an important time. But nobody had heard of it. Very few people have heard of it. Actually, a young African-American Secret Service agent knew what it was. I had political people who had no idea. Did you ever hear of Juneteenth before?Ms. Farah: I did from last year when the White House put out a statementMr. Trump: Oh really? We put out a statement? The Trump White House put out a statement?Ms. Farah: YesMr. Trump: Oh OK. Good. I don’t think it was put up by others. But we made people aware of it, and it’s good. But they asked me, you know, and these are two really good supporters, African-American supporters that they believe in what we’re saying…You know, we have a lot of black support, tremendous black support.Mr. Bender: Some people wondered why some of the black supporters didn’t walk over to St. John’s with you, or why they haven’t been to many events.Mr. Trump: Because they weren’t here. I just made that decision very quickly. I’m the only man that can walk three blocks—in danger—can walk three blocks, hold up a Bible in front of a church that protesters just burned the hell out of and get bad publicity. I’m the only person that’s capable of doing that. Think of what I did. I made a speech which people thought was a good speech. I then walked across the street. Not across the street, I walked a long distance away. It’s like a three block walk. And there is danger, because of buildings. I’m not saying there is danger with the protesters, because the Secret Service had that in very good shape. We had no problem. But this danger from above right? I walked three blocks, go to a church that had just suffered a major fire that was built at the same time as the White House. So very important. John Adams was the first parishioner. Was he the fifth or sixth? Whatever. You’ll figure it out. First supporter. First parishioner. I hold up a Bible in front of the church that just got burned badly the night before, and I got bad publicity than meMr. Bender: There may be people who are critical of you no matter what. But why didn’t you pray? Why didn’t you read something from scripture? Why didn’t you bring someone from the black community? Or a parishioner?Mr. Trump: Well, I was standing outside on a sidewalk. It was very, very noisy, as you can imagine. The protesters, who, the day before tried to burn down the church…You know, everyone was saying, Oh, they were so wonderful. They weren’t wonderful. They tried to burn down the church. And it was, they told me, the same group. A similar group. So you have people screaming all over the place. And I didn’t think it was exactly the right time to pray. I’m on the sidewalk. And the church itself, I didn’t want to go in because they had a lot of insurance reasons. You know, the church was boarded up. The entire church was boarded up, and I knew that. So I went there, stood there, held up the Bible, talked to a few people and then we left. I came back and I got bad publicity.But I also, if you think about it, I went to West Point over the weekend, made a very good speech, according to everybody. They said the speech was one of the best. The kids thought it was one of the best they’d ever heard. Stood up there for a long time saluting. Were you there?Mr. Bender: No, but I watched. It looked like a really nice day.Mr. Trump: Yeah. After the helicopters came over, the hats went up, the general said, Sir, Are you ready? I said, I’m ready. And he led me to a ramp that was long and steep and slippery. And I said, I got a problem because I wear, you know, the leather bottom shoes. I can show them to you if you like. Same pair. And you know what I mea, they’re slippery. I like them better than the rubber because they don’t catch. So they’re better for this. But they’re not good for ramps. I said, General, I got a problem here. That ramp is slippery.…So I’m going to go real easy. So I did. And then the last 10 feet I ran down. They always stop it just before I ran, they always stop it. So, I spent three hours between speeches and saluting people and they end up, all they talked about is ramp. … If you would have seen this ramp, it was like an ice skating rink. So I’m the only one that can happen. But the church is an interesting thing. I mean, here I spent three hours on stage, the sun pouring in and I saluted 1,106 cadets, and that’s not easy. Even the general said, That’s amazing. Other presidents would never have been able to do it. Because usually they do the first 10. They do 10 honor rolls, and then they go home. I stayed there for hours. And what do I do? I get publicity about walking down a ramp. And does he have Parkinson’s? I don’t think so.Mr. Bender: Well, some of it may be your campaign raising similar questions about Biden’s age and people asking similar questions...Mr. Trump: Well, I’m four years younger. But no, it’s not Biden’s age. I know people that are much older than me. And they’re sharp as they were when they were 25. I know a man who’s 92, is 100% sharp. Take a look at Bernie Marcus, Home Depot. Take a look at Sheldon Adelson. So sharp. It’s not the age. … But what the news does is they try and put me in that position they saw the ramp. The amazing thing is the Washington Post did a story. Do you have a copy of this story? It’s around someplace. Could you give me the copy of the Washington Post this guy wrote on the ramp? Do me a favor. He said Trump’s right. I could not believe it. Do you see the story that did a Trump’s right? It wasn’t his health it was politics. I said to the general, This isn’t good. Don’t forget the generals were in rubber, you know rubber boots.That was quick. Rampgate has nothing to do with Trump’s health. This was in the Washington Post. This was one of the great shockers of all time. Do you want it? You don’t need it, right?Mr. Bender: I can get it at home.Mr. Trump: The writer, named Henry Olsen. I said, I can’t believe the Washington Post. I gained respect for The Washington Post. They said they had a picture. Look. This is steel. Steel.Mr. Bender: Are you okay renaming some of the military bases with Confederate names?Mr. Trump: So, I would like to keep. I don’t think we should be changing these bases. From these bases, we won two World Wars, and plenty of other things. We had great victories. They’re known all over the world. Fort Bragg is the largest military base in the world. I don’t think we should be changing the names and a lot of people agree. They were named after the Civil War in some cases in order to bring people together, north and south. And now you’re going to take them off? You’re going to bring people apart.Mr. Bender: Have you asked the two black friends you mentioned earlier about that? Or your Secret Service agents?Mr. Trump: No, I haven’t asked them about that. They told me about the Juneteenth. This is... you’re asking me a separate question.Mr. Bender: Yes. I was wondering if you have members of the black community to run some of these questions by.Mr. Trump: I haven’t discussed this with them. I just say this. We’ve won two World Wars. Those names were put on there for a reason. It was a reconciliation. It was bringing people together. This was after the war. And I think that we’re always trying to be so politically correct. And it’s hurting our country very badly in my opinion.Mr. Bender: The Buffalo protester, the 75-year-old man who fell. He had a brain injury and can’t walk. So you still think he may be Antifa?Mr. Trump: That I don’t know. I retweeted…he was a professional agitator. He was having a fight with other guys there that were agitators that were younger. Did you see the clip? Do you see the clip of the young guys that were screaming, Get the hell out of here? They were fighting with them. Then he steps and he puts himself right in the way of these people. And then he takes something and starts putting it on their body, touching them or close. And somebody said it was a scanner, whatever it was. I’m not saying anything one way or the other. I’m just saying, What did he stand right in their path? And he moved right into their path. And the soldiers knew him.Mr. Bender: Do you think he’s still you still think he might be Antifa?Mr. Trump: If you look at his tweets, he certainly had things about Antifa on his tweets. You saw that right? And he deleted his entire account when the people started going, because they saw the tweets, and then he deleted his entire account. So what’s that all about? No, I don’t like to see people hurt. But he put himself right into the midst of the soldiers. These police, they meant business. They were walking and he puts himself right there. And you could tell they knew him. They knew him. But he’s had a long history. Too bad he had to get hurt.Mr. Bender: You opened this on polls, let’s end it there. Sounds like there’s a big gap in Arizona. Iowa is tightening. How are you feeling about things right now?Mr. Trump: I hear we’re doing very well in the polls. And I see we’re doing very well. We have polls. And if you look at a lot of the polls, they’re very heavily weighted Democrat,But I hear we’re doing very well. We’ll see. We’ll get to know soon enough. This is no different than what I had in a certain other election in 2016. And they would tell me about the poll,Mr. Bender: You see parallels with the two races?Mr. Trump: I think this is far worse. I think the press is more dishonest now than it was in 2016. They call them suppression polls. I think that I’m way ahead in Iowa. How could I not be ahead? I took care of the farmers better than anybody who’s ever taken care of farmers? Biden would never do it. He wouldn’t even know that they had a problem. How could they possibly go for Biden. He wouldn’t know the farmers even at a problem. They were targeted for $12 billion and $16 billion, and I got them $12 billion and $16 billion out of the tariffs that China was paying us and had a lot of money left over for the United States Treasury.Mr. Bender: I know you’re not happy about the press coverage. Sometimes it seems you want to run against the press more than you do against Biden.Mr. Trump: I just think that I don’t think the press is extremely dishonest. The only thing I can’t figure out is why. Go back a couple of months and take a look at what we’ve done.And then we would have started with the debt, and we would have started with cutting and you know, bringing things, really, I mean, we were in such great shape. And you think people would love having a strong military and low taxes and all of these things that we had. It was, you know, we have the strongest military now we’ve ever had. One of the things I did also, I don’t even know if it’s in here, the wall. Our border security now is as good as it’s ever been. But we just completed 212 miles of wall. And that’s one of the reasons—that’s a lot, you know, in the most critical areas. And nobody gets through that wall. That wall is the real deal. And so that’s a big thing. But we’ll see you again, Michael.Mr. Bender: Who do you think Biden should pick as his VP? I’ll leave you on that.Mr. Trump: I mean, he said he’s going to pick a woman. So I would imagine he’s going to pick a woman. I would hope so. I don’t want to really guesstimate, but you know, there are probably three or four that I would see as being viable. More than that.Mr. Bender: Thank you very much for the time.Mr. Trump: Any time.
Michael C. Bender: I’m fine, thanks. How are you doing?
Mr. Trump: I’m good, I’m good. I think we’re doing good. I just got some good poll numbers.
Mr. Bender: Oh, did you?
Mr. Trump: I think we’re doing good. So what’s up?
Mr. Bender: Do you want to tell me about your poll numbers?
Mr. Trump: We’re up in a lot of states. We’re looking very good in Ohio. Very good in Wisconsin. Very good in Florida. Yeah, I think we’re doing well. I mean, we haven’t started campaigning, you know. I have not, essentially, started. I guess you could say it starts on Saturday, right? What’s the word on that?
Mr. Bender: You tell me.
Mr. Trump: I think it’s gonna be a hell of a night. I’ll tell you.
Mr. Bender: Are you looking forward to it?
Mr. Trump: Yeah. Are you going?
Mr. Bender: No, I’m not this time.
Mr. Trump: You should go. Try and go.
Mr. Bender: We’re in a rotation to travel on Air Force One. So I’ll be in there soon.
Mr. Trump: Oh, I see. It’s rotation. So you’ll be in the next one? The next rally?
Mr. Bender: Maybe. I’ll have to look at the rotation. But very soon.
Mr. Trump: OK. Good.
Mr. Bender: So have you been pushing to do a rally? It’s been a while.
Mr. Trump: These are judges, look. (Mr. Trump holds up a stack of documents that, once signed, will formally nominate individual judges.) So we’ll be up to, oh, I don’t know, 254 or something very soon. This a United States district judge, district—New Mexico. All judges. Nobody’s done anything like that one, right?
Mr. Bender: That’s a lot of judges.
Mr. Trump: The judge situation, yeah. I think we’re doing... Do you mind if I sign this while we talk?
Mr. Bender: No. Sounds good. Go ahead. A little multitasking? Well, maybe we can just talk about the rally for just a second. What do you think about some of the risks from coronavirus?
Mr. Trump: Well, one of the reasons we chose the location, Oklahoma is they’ve done very well, with respect to the rally—with respect to the…they have a really good arena, but they’ve done very well, with respect to the, I call it the plague. The plague that was sent by China. And I think that, you know, the numbers are very small. They said there’s a spike, the spike is, I wish Mike (Pence) were here because he was showing me the numbers before. It’s like, very few people. And I think they’re in great shape. But I would even say the spike ends, has already ended. So I think we’re going to do very well, you know. I think we’re going to do well. I think it’s time to start our country up again, basically. And could we keep it shut longer? Personally, I don’t think so. I don’t think people would take it. And I think it would be the wrong thing to do. We have great retail numbers. I mean, it’s the early surge. We have great retail numbers. It was supposed to, I guess, 7... they were estimating 7%. We’re going to be 17.7%.
So I think that it’s going to be great. I think we’re gonna have a really good third quarter. This quarter, as you know, what’s going on now we’re finishing out the results of what we had to do. So the third quarter’s really our first quarter where we can show something and I think, I mean, based on the numbers, the employment numbers you saw, we’re good. Beyond good. Actually, I think they were reported as the best numbers in history, best employment quarter in history. Best employment month in history.
Mr. Bender: How low can you get the employment rate by November?
Mr. Trump: Well, I think we can get tremendous numbers of jobs by November. I think by the end of the year, we’re going to have a vast number of jobs, largely…shortly thereafter, we should be almost where we were. And I think ultimately next year is going to be a fantastic year. I think next year is going to be a really fantastic year. You know, I was predicting the V, right? You know that. From the beginning. And now everybody’s saying I’m right. And we’ll see. We’ve got tremendous momentum. Now, it’ll be interesting to see where that momentum goes now. We were riding really straight through. Doing great. And then we got hit by the China virus. And frankly, we’re starting a little bit of a different campaign. Now it’s about jobs. Before it was about other things, but basically before it was about keeping it where it was. Now it’s about having it go up. And it will go up. I think you’ll see big GDP increases. I think you’ll see big jobs increases. And I think you’re going to see big retail sales increases, which you’ve already seen. So if you look at the two, the two stats that have come out…Two weeks ago, you had the job numbers, which were the biggest monthly gain in history. And yesterday, you had the retail sales numbers, which was the biggest, the biggest gain—17.7%—in history. And the estimate, I guess, was 6%, 6 to 7%. And it was 17.7%. So the numbers are looking much better than people thought.
Mr. Bender: That’s true. I’m sure you’ve seen the statistics, though, about how it relates to elections.
Mr. Trump: About how what does?
Mr. Bender: Jobs numbers and unemployment.
Mr. Trump: How it would relate to my chances for reelection? Yeah, you know, the sad thing is that I was sailing. You understand? That was a free shot. Now, I mean, if you look at it, people say, “He got us there once, he’s going to get us there again.” That was the greatest economy, the greatest job numbers we’ve ever had. We were up to almost 160 million jobs. Nobody was ever close. But now I just have to start building it up again. We started. And I think that the numbers are beyond anybody’s expectations.
Mr. Bender: Do you think you can get the unemployment rate below 8% by Election Day?
Mr. Trump: I don’t know. We’ll have a lot of jobs before November 3. I mean, all I can say is this: We will have created a lot of jobs prior to November 3. Tremendous number of jobs, a tremendous increase, I expect a tremendous increase in GDP. And we’ll be heading you know, for the top. We’ll be back. And we’ve had a lot of advantages, a lot of experience. We did it once and we’ll do it again. Bottom line is we did it once, and you would agree. Best job numbers, best economy, best everything we’ve ever had. China, we were beating China badly.
China, last year, would have had the worst year they’ve ever had in many, many years and decades. And that was because I put a lot of tariffs on China that they never wanted. And I don’t want them to have bad years, but they happened to have a very bad year last year. And that’s before the virus. Now, of course they didn’t even report their numbers this year. You know, they refused to report their numbers, right? But last year was a bad year for China, one of one of the very bad years that they’ve had. And that’s largely because I put tariffs on. Nobody ever put tariffs on them. Nobody ever did anything to China. China walked away from Obama-Biden. No tariffs, no downside, no nothing. Whereas we took in billions of dollars of tariffs, and they were all put on by me. And they don’t follow the phase one deal—it’s a phase one deal—if they don’t follow it, I would substantially raise the tariffs, if that were necessary. So far, I think they’re…I haven’t had the final report but it looks like they are. They’re buying a lot.
Mr. Bender: Speaking of China, there is a lot about China in John Bolton’s new book. And trade. And he makes a lot of accusations about you prioritizing trade over the enforcement of sanctions when it comes to ZTE, and Huawei.
Mr. Trump: Well look how tough I’ve been on Huawei. Nobody has been tougher than me on Huawei. Look at what’s going on with Huawei. I mean, we’ve convinced other nations not to do business with them. Whether it’s U.K. or Italy or others. We can give you all the list. Nobody has ever been so tough on a company as I have to Huawei. … So, nobody has been tough on Huawei like me, and there’s nobody been tough on China like me. Now, I don’t know what Bolton has said. I haven’t seen it yet.
But Bolton is a disgruntled guy who made tremendous mistakes. He was one of the architects of the Middle East policy. And the only thing I liked about Bolton was that everybody thought he was crazy. And frankly, when you walk into the room with him, you’re in a good negotiating position. Because they figure you’re going to war if John Bolton was there. He wanted to go to war with everybody. He never saw a war he didn’t like. He made a tremendous mistake. You know, he and the people that he was pushing, when he went into the Middle East, when he went into Iraq That was a terrible mistake. There were no weapons of mass destruction. That was John Bolton.
He wanted the job so badly. He couldn’t get approved by the Senate. It was a non-Senate confirmed…he couldn’t get a Senate confirmed job. And by the way, he didn’t the first time. Did you know that? He wasn’t Senate-confirmed the first time. No. But I view him as a disgruntled employee. Very unhappy. Hated to leave. He was basically a man who was not happy to be leaving. Was not happy to be leaving. He had a lot of policy disputes, he and I.
And after the first month or so, you know, I asked him one question. I said, “So, do you think you did the right thing by going into Iraq?” He said, “Yes.” And that’s when I lost him. And that was early on. That’s when I lost him. But no, I disagreed with much of the stuff he said. He was one of many people. I liked listening to many people, and then doing whatever is the right thing to do.
Mr. Bender: You didn’t ask him about Iraq before you brought him into the White House? If he regretted that?
Mr. Trump: No, but it didn’t…I knew all about his policy on Iraq. But that didn’t matter, frankly. Because he made a terrible mistake. And so did everybody else involved in Iraq and the Middle East, frankly. I never thought it was the right thing to do. And I’ve been proven right. But when he told me he still thinks it was the right thing to do, and was unable to explain it to me, I said, “Explain that to me, because I don’t think you can.’ And he could not explain it to me. So I said, “Do you say that just to make yourself feel good? Or do you say that because you really believe it?” He said, “I really believe it.” I said, “Well, then you’ve lost me because it’s just wrong.”
Mr. Bender: You’ve talked about how your viewpoint on the trade deal has changed a little bit after coronavirus.
Mr. Trump: Yeah.
Mr. Bender: In the book, Bolton says that you wanted to lift the penalties off ZTE as part of a trade negotiation.
Mr. Trump: Well, he wasn’t here there for that. ZTE was my deal. I put the fine on them. And I’ve never seen anything quite like it. I essentially closed them up. That was me. Obama didn’t do it. That was me. I closed them up. And then we settled with them. We let them make a deal fairly shortly thereafter. They paid over a billion dollar fine, and agreed to board changes and all sorts of other things. So an unbelievable deal. It was short. Do you know what I’m talking about? I don’t know exactly what the timing was. And then immediately the Democrats say, Oh, you should have gotten more. I said, wait a minute, this is my deal. So I closed them up. What was it, Michael, like $1.2 billion?
Mr. Bender: I don’t remember exactly.
Mr. Trump: We’ll go back and find it. Something like $1.2 billion. So I close them up. They paid a tremendous amount in fines. I don’t know what it was. I think it was over a billion dollars. And they opened up. But we also got them to change their board as I remember it and the management and other things. So ZTE was great. Now, as always the Democrats, when you go in and you say “Hey, I got a billion dollars or whatever was...”
Kayleigh McEnany, White House press secretary: It was $1.3 billion.
Mr. Trump: $1.3 billion For nothing. Listen to this: I closed them, essentially. I said, we’re not going to do business. They come and ask: how do we get out of this? I ask them for a lot of money. They pay $1.3 billion and other things, not just $1.3. And then the Democrats say, Oh, you could have gotten more. They didn’t do it. Do you understand? They didn’t do it. I did it. So we pick up $1.3 billion in fines. And it’s an amazing deal. Now the Democrats will say, Oh, because .... Iif by the way, if I got $10 billion in fines, if I got $200 billion, if I ended up owning Beijing for $1, they would have said: The deal is not good enough, because that’s what they always say.
Any deal you make, they’ll say it’s good enough. Like with the policemen. They say, Oh, you could have made a better deal, you know. And perhaps I’d say the same thing with them.
Mr. Bender: I guess I wonder about your perspective on the trade deal now, especially given the moves you made on ZTE and, in the book, Bolton says that you effectively gave your blessing to President Xi to continue building camps for the Uighur Muslims.
Mr. Trump: No, that’s not true. That’s not true.
In fact, I approved a deal—a reprimand, etc, etc—from Congress. That’s been done. It’s been all done. It’s been signed. But I approved. The deal came in from Congress recently. And it’s been going along in Congress. I could have killed that very easily. All I would have to do is make a statement that I’m against it.
Mr. Bender: That was today that you signed that.
Mr. Trump: No, but this has been going in Congress for a long time. And I could have fought it. And I would have won. But I didn’t fight that deal.
Mr. Bender: Bolton and Pompeo and Pence all wanted you to sanction China for detention of these minorities, but you were reluctant because of what it meant for the trade deal. And I guess what I’m wondering is now that you sort of have a different viewpoint on the trade deal, do you regret...
Mr. Trump: No, I think the trade deal is a great deal. But ever since we got hit with the Chinese plague, I feel different toward everything having to do with China. And I’ve always been hardline on China.
Bolton never told me to do tariffs on China. Bolton never thought you could get any tariffs done on China. Bolton has no economic sense. Bolton never thought you could get tariffs on China. They paid us billions of dollars. I gave our farmers $12 billion and $16 billion dollars out of tariffs I took in from China, which were much more than that. You understand? Because they were targeted. The farmers were targeted. Bolton never thought you could get—most people never thought you could get tariffs. I even, in the deal, we left a lot of the tariffs in the deal—big portions of the tariffs. I think 25%. Nobody thought you could make a deal like that. Because we got the deal, and we got the tariffs. But since we got hit with the virus, I have a very different perspective on China. Very different perspective. And I view it very differently. But nobody has been tough on China like I am. And you know that.
Look under Obama and Biden, they got away with murder. This should have been... What I’ve been doing to China should have been done a long time ago. Obama-Biden never... They just came in and it was pillage. It was terrible. And they should have done something like what I’ve done. But we’ve taken in billions of dollars and by the way, they devalued their currency in order to pay for the tariffs. They devalued and they put up, they paid money. Otherwise their product wouldn’t have sold because the tariffs would have made their product too expensive. But the deal we made with China was a good deal, but I feel differently. The ink was barely dry when we got hit with the virus, and I view that I view that whole deal differently now. I view the relationship with China differently than
Mr. Bender: I do want to ask a couple questions about China. But just one more Bolton’s book, and then I’ll move on. Pompeo has a very big role in this book. Bolton writes that Pompeo told him multiple times he was close to resignation. He says Pompeo passed him a note during your meeting with Kim Jong Un saying that you were full of shit.
Mr. Trump: Who is full of shit?
Mr. Bender: You, sir.
Mr. Trump: I would doubt that. Does he have the note? Let me see the note.
(Mark Meadows, the White House staff chief, enters the Oval Office.)
Mr. Meadows: Mr. Bender.
Mr. Bender: Mr. Meadows.
Mr. Trump: No, I would doubt that. I have a very good relationship with Pompeo.
Mr. Bender: That’s what I was wondering. There is so much in here on Pompeo, I was wondering if this is a Tillerson moment for Pompeo, when things became so strained between you and Tillerson.
Mr. Trump: I have no strain with Pompeo. No, I have a very good relationship with Pompeo.
Mr. Meadows: Extremely good.
Alyssa Farah, White House communications director: He’s going to push back on that.
Mr. Trump: No, I would doubt that. I have a very good relationship with Pompeo. He’s right now having an important meeting with somebody at their request. Do you know that?
Mr. Bender: No, I didn’t know that. With who?
Mr. Trump: No. Now, I have a very good relationship with... The one who has a bad relationship with Pompeo was Bolton. Did you know that? Pompeo and Bolton had a terrible relationship. What, you don’t see that? How does that come out in the book?
Mr. Bender: Bolton casts a critical eye toward just about everybody in your White House.
Mr. Trump: Everybody in the White House hated John Bolton, that I could see. There might have been some people. (To Mr. Meadows:) Did you deal with him at all? Yeah, you did. You think he’s terrible.
Mr. Meadows. Yes, I did. John Bolton is very self important. And you can quote me on that.
Mr. Trump: And not very smart.
Mr. Meadows: The best way this book could be described is, “In The Room Where It Didn’t Happen.” Because nothing that he touched ever happened, because he couldn’t find consensus.
Mr. Trump: And with a short period of time, as we all got to know him because I didn’t know him very well. I didn’t know him at all before this. I figured, eh, he’s a hardliner. I like having a hardliner. He’s a hardliner, but I call him a stupid liner, because it was so foolish.
I could tell you things that he wanted to do that if we would have done them, we would have ended up on our own Iraq, a nice new version of Iraq.
Mr. Bender: What’s an example of that?
Mr. Trump: I don’t want to say. I’ll have to say when I write my book, but nobody cares about Bolton. I would say this, look, he was somebody that wasn’t liked at all, and wasn’t respected very much. As we got to know him, he was respected less and less. Personally, I thought he was crazy. And other than the fact that he goes out and writes a book when he shouldn’t be writing a book, you know. You don’t leave and then write a book. And he’s got, you know, I think he’s got a lot of legal problems for doing it. I think he’s got probably a lot of legal problems. He should not have done what he did. But you don’t leave the office and go out and write a book about a current administration that’s doing well, but about a current administration. Who would ever think of doing something like that?
Mr. Bender: So, he does address that in the book. And the reason he says he wants this book out now is to essentially warn conservatives. He describes your reelection as the last guardrail on you in the White House, and worries that Democrats may enjoy your second term more than conservatives. Do you want to address that point and...
Mr. Trump: Well, sure. Look, I’m signing now, in front of you, judges. All judges. I won’t give you the names. All judges... Texas, New York, Minnesota. I’m signing off judges. We’re going to have potentially close to 300 judges including DC It’ll be close to 300. Nobody’s close. They’re all conservaative, highly respected judges. They’re going to be there for many years. They’re all young. They’re all conservative. They’re all very smart. And they’re getting great reviews. If I did nothing else, that’s good. Plus, I put two Supreme Court judges in that are excellent people. But if I did nothing else, and it’s really amazing because if I wasn’t here, those judges go to super liberal, young, smart judges, okay? Super liberal radical left. And you won’t have your Second Amendment any longer. And you will have a view on life that’s much different than the view on life now. That will change. And you won’t be spending money on the military. I’ve totally rebuilt the military. It’s the strongest it’s ever been. All made in the U.S.A.er $2 trillion, right. I created the Space Force. I got Anwar done, that even Reagan couldn’t get done. I got the biggest tax cuts in the history of our country. I got the biggest regulation cuts in the history of our country. I’ve done things that no administration has ever done in the first three and a half years.
Mr. Bender: It’s been a very active four years. I can...
Mr. Trump: No, give me a list. Look at her (Mr. Trump’s assistant enters the Oval Office with a list of Mr. Trump’s accomplishments.) She’s so unbelievable. She is so quick. I look up and she’s walking in with a list. Look at that.
Take this and read it. OK, because honestly, this is page after page of things that I’ve done. Just take this and read it. It’s pretty amazing. Added 2.5 million jobs. This is recently: 2.5 million jobs in May shattering the expectation that we will lose 10 million jobs. We’re going to lose 10 million, unfortunately, for the critics, we Retail Sales up 17.7%, which is the largest in history, job gains last month was the largest increase ever. Nearly 300 jobs were created for African-Americans last month. 75% of small businesses are now open. That’s a big number. It was estimated would be a much lower number. S&P 500 had the best 50 days in history. The was a week before actually... And this was a good week. So I guess that continues. Nasdaq hit 10,000 for the first time, an all time record. Nasdaq, that was three, four days ago. In the middle of the pandemic, not in the middle toward the end of the pandemic. In my opinion. Hope I’m right. Saved the New York Times The Washington Post and cable television. I put that in for fun, but I did, it’s true. Because when I’m here when I’m not here... Maybe not The Wall Street Journal, but much of the media is going out of business. Because if you have to cover sleepy Joe Biden who’s dead from the neck up, if you have to cover sleepy Joe Biden, I don’t think it’s gonna be too exciting.
Mr. Bender: Well, what would you say is a new priority for the second term? One new initiative.
Mr. Trump: Well, it would have been much different if you asked me that question three months ago, because the economy was really rocking. And I would have been cutting debt. I would have been cutting expenses. I would have been cutting a lot of things. It would have been, you know, different. Now the new priorities: Building the economy to a point where it was plus, because we’re gonna have a better economy than it was. Because of certain things I’m doing. So if you would have asked me the question three months ago, I would have said reducing debt and building a, you know, just a continuation of what I’m doing now. Now you’re asking me the question, and now it’s building a really strong, powerful economy. And I think next year we can have a better... we can have one of the best years we’ve ever had.
And don’t forget so far I’ve been right. Now, you know, you may come to see me in a couple of months... And Michael’s always been fair, I don’t mind, you know, seeing you. You’ve always treated me well. Sometimes he’s treated me fairly. But when I explained it to him, he’s treated me fairly. When I’m not here to explain it to him, it’s a little different, I told them.
I said there’s going to be a V. And everybody is now saying that I was right.
Mr. Bender: You’ve kind of described it as a snapback, that once the economy reopens all these jobs come back. But is there something you plan on...
Mr. Trump: That’s because it was an artificial closing. It wasn’t like a bad, horrible recession that takes years to develop and it just starts tumbling downhill, and it takes 15 years to recover as it did with the Great Depression and some really big recessions and it would take 10,15 years to recover.
Mr. Bender: A lot of economists say it will take a while to come back. Several decades of job growth have been lost in the last couple months. My question is whether you have a new initiative in mind to re-energize the economy, to bring back jobs and get people back to work, in a second term?
Mr. Trump: So aside from everything else when we got rid of Nafta, which was a disaster. We have a great USMCA now. And in addition, we are making much better trade deals that we had in the past. If you look at Japan, they’re buying $40 billion worth of stuff. And building many car plants here. Germany is doing the same thing. Germany has to do what they’re doing, you know, building plants. They’re always difficult, frankly. And we’re reducing our troops in Germany because it’s costing us a lot of money and they’re delinquent on their payments. You know, they’re delinquent on their NATO payments. They owe a lot of money. Germany owes a lot of money. They don’t pay their bills. They’re supposed to be paying 2% and they’re paying 1%. If that, and it’s not fair. So we’re supposed to defend Germany from Russia, right? And yet Germany pays Russia billions of dollars for energy. How does that work? Right? So, you know. So, we’ve made, we’ve made great trade deals. And I was about to make the best trade deal of all, we’re all set to go. and then we got hit by the pandemic. If we didn’t get hit by the pandemic, we would have some additional trade deals that would have been unbelievable, including with the European Union.
But instead of doing that, everybody was being very conservative and heading for the shelters.
Mr. Bender: You’ve talked about holding China accountable for coronavirus. Do you think they sat on that information about the virus in order to tank other economies around the world?
Mr. Trump: They did something because if you look, they had very little outbreak, although now they seem to have an outbreak in Beijing, which is interesting, as of yesterday. But everybody knew they had it. I acted very early. I closed our country to China.
By the way, Bolton disagreed. He thought we shouldn’t do it, okay? He didn’t think and you know, I was in a room full of people. You were there. And of the people, I don’t know of anybody that thought I should do it. That was a decision I made because I was seeing and hearing that China has a big problem. So they have a big problem, a big contagious problem, a problem of contagion to put it a different way, right? And I closed our country in January, the end of January, I closed our country to China. Nancy Pelosi was dancing in the streets of Chinatown at the end of February.
Mr. Bender: Did you consult with Bolton on coronavirus?
Mr. Trump: No. I lost respect for Bolton’s intellect fairly early in the process. It wasn’t a big deal to me because frankly, he was good for me to use in negotiations because everyone thought he was crazy and he would go to war.
Mr. Bender: Was that effective? Was there an instance where you felt having Bolton in the room paid off in a negotiation?
Mr. Trump: When people saw Bolton in the room, they figured probably he was stupid enough to go to war all the time. You know, he was a guy that I could tell you, if I would have listened to him, you and I would be in World War Three right now. He’s crazy. He’s crazy, and I think he’s not smart. But you know what I’m talking about right?
Mr. Meadows: Yes I do, sir.
Mr. Trump: He wanted to do things that were insane.
Mr. Bender: Like what?
Mr. Trump: I don’t want to tell you that. Maybe I’ll tell you, you know, at a later date. But he had no touch. He had no feel. And I think he, you know, just had little intellect. He was also somebody who, just, people didn’t like him. Nobody in the office liked him. Nobody wanted to be with him. Nobody wanted to talk much with him. And I realized early on, as I was saying before to Michael, was when I asked him the question, so John, you were one of the people that were really pushing hard to go into the Middle East, to go into Iraq. Would you do it again? He said, Yes. And that’s where I said this guy is crazy.
Mr. Bender: That was only after a month?
Mr. Trump: Yeah, I don’t know. But it was very early on. I was talking to him. I said, So was that a mistake? I said, and it’s okay to admit you made a mistake, although that’s a big one. That’s a beauty. And I said, Do you think it was a mistake? And he said, No, I think it was the right thing to do. And I said, You know, you can’t explain that. You just can’t explain it. So anyway,
Mr. Bender: Maybe points for honesty?
Mr. Trump: That’s very interesting. Or maybe points for stupidity? I can figure out which. Oh, wait, you take this. (Mr. Trump offers his print out of accomplishments.)
You can add on to what I said. Tried to deal with a Nafta. By the way. One thing. It wasn’t Bolton that killed al Baghdadi. It wasn’t Bolton that killed Soleimai. … Bolton might say, oh, Trump wasn’t tough enough on China and wasn’t tough enough on this. I know that kind of shit, because he lied a lot. He is a liar. Nobody was tougher in China. Nobody was tougher on Iran. Nobody’s been tougher on anything. We’ll see how North Korea works out. … It’s early in that whole situation. So we’ll see. You know, in the meantime, he expected to be in war. OK. We’re not in war. What have we given up? Nothing. Have we reduced sanctions? No. Have we done anything? No. And the fake news video—total phony media would say, Oh, Trump’s give it up a lot. Really what have I given up? Nothing. … Okay. A few more Mike.
Mr. Bender: Just a couple on coronavirus and I want to make sure to as you a little about your police reforms.
Mr. Trump: On coronavirus, I acted very quickly, and I acted early. And they can’t get over it. Number one. Number two. If I didn’t act, we would have had 3 million deaths. And instead we’re at 110,000. And we could be heading to a number that’s, you know, higher than 150,000 to 200,000, it could be ending all now depending on how it goes. We’re doing very well on vaccine. We’re doing very well on therapeutic. But if I didn’t do what we did, we would have anywhere from 1.5 million to 3 million deaths. That would be 20 times more than we’ll end up having, you know? 10 to 30 times more.
Mr. Bender: It sounds like you’re very tuned in to what’s happening in China and in the second waves that are happening there. There was a spike a couple weeks ago in Wuhan…
Mr. Trump: Well, first of all they don’t... We did an incredible thing, not since the Second World War. We had very few ventilators in our country. You couldn’t get them because every country was desperate for ventilators. We went into the ventilator-making business and now we have thousands of ventilators being made every week. And we’re helping other countries with ventilators. On the medical equipment, same thing. We’re with making a lot. I was up in Maine the other day. I don’t know if you were there. The lines of people on the street in Maine... That was a swab plant. But we’re making a lot of our own stuff now. And very importantly, our testing is so far advanced of any other country. And that’s a good thing and a bad thing. Here’s what’s bad about it.
We tested I think, 20 some odd million people now, right? No country is even close to that. You look at 4 million, maybe 5 million in Germany, no country’s even close to 20 million. The problem is when you test, you’re finding cases, you’re finding kids that had it and you know, etc, etc.
Mr. Bender: Why is that a problem?
Mr. Trump: Well, the problem is because we’re showing cases whereas other countries that don’t have testing capacity, they don’t show cases. So they say the United States has more cases than anybody else. That’s because we do more testing. If we use the same testing that I used in China, or in Iran, or in some of these larger countries, it would blow us away. First of all, China doesn’t report it’s testing.…
So I do say they contained it. Now, just the last little day and it’s all of a sudden turning that maybe it wasn’t contained. But it seems to have been contained in China. And why was it contained in China? But the Chinese people that were infected go to Europe and go all over the world?
Mr. Bender: What’s the answer to that question, Mr. President?
Mr. Trump: Well, that’s what I’m trying to find out.
Mr. Bender: What do you think it is?
Mr. Trump: There is a very good chance it was incompetence. There was a very good chance it was a mistake. And there’s a chance that it was intentional.
Mr. Bender: You think that is a lesser chance?
Mr. Trump: Yeah I think so. Because I don’t think I don’t think they would do that. But you never know. But it has had an impact.
Mr. Bender: And that would be to spread the economic consequences around the globe?
Mr. Trump: Correct. They’re saying, man, we’re in a mess. The United States is killing us. Don’t forget, my economy during the last year and a half was blowing them away. And the reason is the tariffs.
Mr. Bender: Is that your gut on that? Or do you have intelligence that they may have pushed this beyond their border?
Mr. Trump: It’s my sense that could have happened. I hope not. And I hope we’ll be able to find it out.
Mr. Bender: The Wuhan question I wanted to ask about the spike there, which resulted in them testing almost all 11 million people in 9 days. If there was a second spike in New York or Michigan, would you push to test everyone in New York, everyone in Michigan?
Mr. Trump: No, I wouldn’t. I personally think testing is overrated, even though I created the greatest testing machine in history. I’ve created the greatest testing machine in history. And I think testing is overrated.
Mr. Bender: Why is that?
Mr. Trump: Because I think you’ll have it and you’ll test. I’m not saying testing is bad. And certainly you test people and you want to see whether or not they have it. But the testing can lead to a lot of mistakes also. Look, if we didn’t test all the cases that we’re reporting, you wouldn’t know about any of those cases. In many ways, it makes us look bad. The fact that we’re so good at something makes us look bad. But having the ability to test is…has helped us a lot. But don’t forget we report every single death.…We report every case. So, if we test 20 times more than some other country, we’re going to find cases. They call them cases. And that’s only because our testing is much better.
Mr. Bender: You think testing is overrated because it adds to the caseload?
Mr. Trump: No, not for that reason. I just think that what you have to do is be careful, regardless. You have to be careful. You have a certain population... we now know that elderly people, especially elderly people that have a problem such as heart disease, or various…they’re literally listed, okay? They’re literally listed. Diabetes, heart disease, I think would be number one and two. But they’re listed. If they’re elderly, and they have those diseases, it’s not easy. It’s not gonna be pleasant. OK? So we know where we should protect. We had a number of governors that did a very, very poor job with respect to nursing homes, a very, very poor job. And they should have known better.
Mr. Bender: You also don’t seem to like masks very much. Do you think people are protesting you when they wear them?
Mr. Trump: Masks are a double-edge sword. People touch them. And they grab them and I see it all the time. They come in, they take the mask. Now they’re holding it now in their fingers. And they drop it on the desk and then they touch their eye and they touch their nose. No, I think a mask is a…it’s a double-edged sword. It’s a double-edged sword. I see Biden. It’s like his whole face is covered. It’s like he put a knapsack over his face. He probably likes it that way. He feels good that way because he does. He seems to feel good in a mask, you know, feels better than he does without the mask, which is a strange situation.
Mr. Bender: You’ve commented on Biden’s mask a few times, and a couple of reporters who wear masks. Do you view that as a protest of you? Do you feel like people wear masks to show their disapproval of you?
Mr. Trump: It could be, yeah. It could be. But it could also be they feel better about it. I mean, I’m okay with it. Look, I’m okay with it. But the mask is a double-edged sword and I see it. People come in, they’re talking through the mask for hours. They probably don’t clean them after, you know, they get a little cocky, right? Then they take the mask, they put their finger on the mask, and they take them off, and then they start touching their eyes and touching their nose and their mouth. And then they don’t know how they caught it.
Mr. Bender: One of my sisters is a nurse and she’s described this as a false sense of security that it gives people.
Mr. Trump: It’s possible. It could be a false sense of security. But think of it, they’re touching it. I watch them all day long. They’re playing with it. You watch some of these politicians, they start talking, they take their fingers and they put them inside the mask and they rip it down. Now their fingers are infected. Potentially. And then they touch their nose. They touch their eyes, they touch their mouth. Voilà.
Mr. Bender: So it’s okay if your supporters wear masks at the rally?
Mr. Trump: Absolutely. They can wear them or not. I want them to be happy. We’re gonna have a good time. Yeah, I want them to be happy.
Mr. Bender: What happens if your supporters get sick at one of these rallies?
Mr. Trump: Well, people have to know that, yes, you do. But it’s tiny. You know, it’s a very small percentage. We did the right thing. We closed it down. We closed it down. Expensive. But you can’t put a price on saving millions of lives. We saved millions of lives. You know, a lot of people say herd. Well how did herd work for Sweden? No good. How did herd work for Brazil? No good.
Mr. Bender: Let me put it in personal terms. Would you be okay if a family member of yours, if Ivanka wanted to go sit in the crowd at your rally?
Mr. Trump: Yeah I would. I would be. Well, first of all, she’s young. And this really is a disease…I was with the governor of New Jersey the other night, because he wants to do a big bridge in New Jersey that they’ve been trying to finance for 50 years. And I approved it. Very expensive bridge in New Jersey. They need it. It’s been a real problem. You know the bridge. And he was telling me something that was shocking. He said they’ve had.. how many people died in New Jersey?
Ms. Farah: I don’t know exactly. But New York and New Jersey are one-quarter of the cases
Mr. Trump: Thousands of people. They lost one person under 18. Hey, would you find out the number of deaths in New Jersey? The state of New Jersey. It was only a few days ago. So they lose one person under 18, he said. I said that’s amazing. That’s why the schools have to open. But the people that are at risk are our older professors, and they’re gonna have to be careful, Maybe not be there initially or maybe have, you know, be behind some kind of a protective shield.
But this was brought to us by China. Just came in from China, and should have never happened because they could have stopped it.
Mr. Bender: Can I ask just a couple questions on the George Floyd fallout?
Mr. Trump: Sure
Mr. Bender: Do you think that there’s systemic racism in the country?
Mr. Trump: In the country?
Mr. Bender: Yes. In America.
Mr. Trump: Hopefully not. But there’s always something going on that’s bad, because there’s always something going on. Here, let me just see that for a second. (Mr. Trump’s assistant hands the president a chart with the number of coronavirus deaths, which total about 12,800.)
OK. Yeah. So, that number. When he mentioned he said 12,500. So he said at 12,500, one person died under the age of 18. So I think that a lot of these are older persons. So I’m very happy I’m young and in perfect condition. OK?
Mr. Bender: You said you hope there’s not systemic racism. Do you think there is?
Mr. Trump: I would like to think there is not. Yeah, I would like to think there is not such systemic racism. And it would be whatever I can do to make myself correct on that thought, I’d like to do it. Now, unfortunately, in the real world, there is some. But I would like to, whatever I could do to reduce that or get rid of it, I’d be very happy with.
Are you asking in police departments or the U. S.?
Mr. Bender: I meant systemic racism. In police departments, in hiring practices...
Mr. Trump: Yeah, I’d like to think there is not but unfortunately, there probably is some. I would also say it’s very substantially less than it used to be.
Mr. Bender: How are you thinking about some of these issues? I know your position on law and orders is very clear. You’ve had some public events with the police. You had some victim’s families in here yesterday. But when it comes to...
Mr. Trump: By the way that was a very impactful moment. The people I met were incredible people.
Mr. Bender: Impactful in what way? What did you take away from that?
Mr. Trump: Meeting the parents, in most cases, parents. of young people, sons in many of the cases, a daughter in one case, that were killed is devastating. To see the parents and so needless, I mean, it should never have happened. I met with a large number of parents that were just, I mean, their lives have been torn apart.
Mr. Bender: Did any of those cases resonate with you? Any particular story that stands out?
Mr. Trump: All of them.
Mr. Bender: Was there one that stood out?
Mr. Trump: All of them. Ahmed. Ahmad. He is the young man who was running. It was just sad to see. The mother was a fantastic woman. Made a great impression. They all made a great impression on me. In fact, after that I had the speech with the law enforcement. So we had two meetings. And it was very interesting because they were very different meetings, very important meetings. But the impact of meeting the parents was very important.
Mr. Bender: The meeting with families was private. And it sounds like everyone wanted to keep it that way, for a number of reasons. But when it comes to healing the country, is that something you think about and have you thought about ways to try to bring people back together?
Mr. Trump: So I think, Michael, that the best way I can do it, it’s leadership. But I want to bring the economy back. Because if I can bring the economy back, African-American unemployment was the best it has ever been, by far. Number of jobs overall. Hispanic, Asian. But if I can bring the economy back, we’re gonna have great jobs, we’re gonna have families where life is going to be a lot easier. Their life is just going to be better. And I was there. We had the greatest economy. We had the largest increases and, you know, 3.2% increases, It’s unheard of what we did, and I think you would have seen a lot of people starting to come together. And now I’m starting that process all over again because Wuhan. I can give you 12, I can give you 15 different names for that. We can call it China. We can call it Wuhan. We can call it many different things. But because of the virus, it came from China, I have to start that process all over again.
Mr. Bender: Is there any part of you that wishing you hadn’t sent the tweet about the shooting starts when the looting starts?
Mr. Trump: Well, that tweet is viewed both ways. And by the way, that wasn’t from some mayor in Miami, there was a man named Frank Rizzo from New Jersey, was a rough guy. He ran a rough operation, but he didn’t have a lot of looting, I can tell you. But that is viewed both two ways. Number one, it can be viewed as a threat. And number two, it can be viewed as a fact that if people start looting, then end up getting shot. And that’s usually a fact. Now it’s less of a fact in a politically correct society. Because I saw a lot of looting and these kids would just walk out with television. Nobody was doing anything.
Mr. Bender: Did you view it as a fact or a threat?
Mr. Trump: I viewed it that, generally speaking, it could be a combination of both. And look, I think that it’s not right, that police offices run by weak liberal Democrats, allow kids to break into stores and walk out with television sets and put them in the back of a car. Which is incredible. Where does the car come from? But, you know, I saw tremendous looting. And I think it’s terrible. There was tremendous damage done. Small businesses were ruined. Lives were ruined by that and people were killed. Nobody mentions that. They don’t say, Well, what about the people that got killed on the other side? They’re more saying, Oh, what a horrible threat. But no, I view it to me, it would normally mean that when somebody walks into a store and walks out carrying a television set on his back, he’s putting himself in great danger, in theory. But then you look at a place like Seattle, where they take over a major part of a major city. And the mayor says, well, it’s going to be a love fest, and the governor does nothing and doesn’t even... says he doesn’t know about it, but on that he’s lying obviously because he knew about it. But he actually said, you saw that, he said, Gee, I didn’t know nothing about that. That’s a terrible thing. That’s a terrible precedent.
Mr. Bender: You did move your rally off Juneteenth. Can you talk about why you did that?
Mr. Trump: Well, I did that out of respect because I had two African-American friends and supporters. And most people, and I went to a lot of people, they didn’t they had not heard the term Juneteenth.
Mr. Bender: Do you know what it was?
Mr. Trump: I did something good. I made it famous. I made Juneteenth very famous. It’s actually an important event, it’s an important time. But nobody had heard of it. Very few people have heard of it. Actually, a young African-American Secret Service agent knew what it was. I had political people who had no idea. Did you ever hear of Juneteenth before?
Ms. Farah: I did from last year when the White House put out a statement
Mr. Trump: Oh really? We put out a statement? The Trump White House put out a statement?
Ms. Farah: Yes
Mr. Trump: Oh OK. Good. I don’t think it was put up by others. But we made people aware of it, and it’s good. But they asked me, you know, and these are two really good supporters, African-American supporters that they believe in what we’re saying…You know, we have a lot of black support, tremendous black support.
Mr. Bender: Some people wondered why some of the black supporters didn’t walk over to St. John’s with you, or why they haven’t been to many events.
Mr. Trump: Because they weren’t here. I just made that decision very quickly. I’m the only man that can walk three blocks—in danger—can walk three blocks, hold up a Bible in front of a church that protesters just burned the hell out of and get bad publicity. I’m the only person that’s capable of doing that. Think of what I did. I made a speech which people thought was a good speech. I then walked across the street. Not across the street, I walked a long distance away. It’s like a three block walk. And there is danger, because of buildings. I’m not saying there is danger with the protesters, because the Secret Service had that in very good shape. We had no problem. But this danger from above right? I walked three blocks, go to a church that had just suffered a major fire that was built at the same time as the White House. So very important. John Adams was the first parishioner. Was he the fifth or sixth? Whatever. You’ll figure it out. First supporter. First parishioner. I hold up a Bible in front of the church that just got burned badly the night before, and I got bad publicity than me
Mr. Bender: There may be people who are critical of you no matter what. But why didn’t you pray? Why didn’t you read something from scripture? Why didn’t you bring someone from the black community? Or a parishioner?
Mr. Trump: Well, I was standing outside on a sidewalk. It was very, very noisy, as you can imagine. The protesters, who, the day before tried to burn down the church…You know, everyone was saying, Oh, they were so wonderful. They weren’t wonderful. They tried to burn down the church. And it was, they told me, the same group. A similar group. So you have people screaming all over the place. And I didn’t think it was exactly the right time to pray. I’m on the sidewalk. And the church itself, I didn’t want to go in because they had a lot of insurance reasons. You know, the church was boarded up. The entire church was boarded up, and I knew that. So I went there, stood there, held up the Bible, talked to a few people and then we left. I came back and I got bad publicity.
But I also, if you think about it, I went to West Point over the weekend, made a very good speech, according to everybody. They said the speech was one of the best. The kids thought it was one of the best they’d ever heard. Stood up there for a long time saluting. Were you there?
Mr. Bender: No, but I watched. It looked like a really nice day.
Mr. Trump: Yeah. After the helicopters came over, the hats went up, the general said, Sir, Are you ready? I said, I’m ready. And he led me to a ramp that was long and steep and slippery. And I said, I got a problem because I wear, you know, the leather bottom shoes. I can show them to you if you like. Same pair. And you know what I mea, they’re slippery. I like them better than the rubber because they don’t catch. So they’re better for this. But they’re not good for ramps. I said, General, I got a problem here. That ramp is slippery.…
So I’m going to go real easy. So I did. And then the last 10 feet I ran down. They always stop it just before I ran, they always stop it. So, I spent three hours between speeches and saluting people and they end up, all they talked about is ramp. … If you would have seen this ramp, it was like an ice skating rink. So I’m the only one that can happen. But the church is an interesting thing. I mean, here I spent three hours on stage, the sun pouring in and I saluted 1,106 cadets, and that’s not easy. Even the general said, That’s amazing. Other presidents would never have been able to do it. Because usually they do the first 10. They do 10 honor rolls, and then they go home. I stayed there for hours. And what do I do? I get publicity about walking down a ramp. And does he have Parkinson’s? I don’t think so.
Mr. Bender: Well, some of it may be your campaign raising similar questions about Biden’s age and people asking similar questions...
Mr. Trump: Well, I’m four years younger. But no, it’s not Biden’s age. I know people that are much older than me. And they’re sharp as they were when they were 25. I know a man who’s 92, is 100% sharp. Take a look at Bernie Marcus, Home Depot. Take a look at Sheldon Adelson. So sharp. It’s not the age. … But what the news does is they try and put me in that position they saw the ramp. The amazing thing is the Washington Post did a story. Do you have a copy of this story? It’s around someplace. Could you give me the copy of the Washington Post this guy wrote on the ramp? Do me a favor. He said Trump’s right. I could not believe it. Do you see the story that did a Trump’s right? It wasn’t his health it was politics. I said to the general, This isn’t good. Don’t forget the generals were in rubber, you know rubber boots.
That was quick. Rampgate has nothing to do with Trump’s health. This was in the Washington Post. This was one of the great shockers of all time. Do you want it? You don’t need it, right?
Mr. Bender: I can get it at home.
Mr. Trump: The writer, named Henry Olsen. I said, I can’t believe the Washington Post. I gained respect for The Washington Post. They said they had a picture. Look. This is steel. Steel.
Mr. Bender: Are you okay renaming some of the military bases with Confederate names?
Mr. Trump: So, I would like to keep. I don’t think we should be changing these bases. From these bases, we won two World Wars, and plenty of other things. We had great victories. They’re known all over the world. Fort Bragg is the largest military base in the world. I don’t think we should be changing the names and a lot of people agree. They were named after the Civil War in some cases in order to bring people together, north and south. And now you’re going to take them off? You’re going to bring people apart.
Mr. Bender: Have you asked the two black friends you mentioned earlier about that? Or your Secret Service agents?
Mr. Trump: No, I haven’t asked them about that. They told me about the Juneteenth. This is... you’re asking me a separate question.
Mr. Bender: Yes. I was wondering if you have members of the black community to run some of these questions by.
Mr. Trump: I haven’t discussed this with them. I just say this. We’ve won two World Wars. Those names were put on there for a reason. It was a reconciliation. It was bringing people together. This was after the war. And I think that we’re always trying to be so politically correct. And it’s hurting our country very badly in my opinion.
Mr. Bender: The Buffalo protester, the 75-year-old man who fell. He had a brain injury and can’t walk. So you still think he may be Antifa?
Mr. Trump: That I don’t know. I retweeted…he was a professional agitator. He was having a fight with other guys there that were agitators that were younger. Did you see the clip? Do you see the clip of the young guys that were screaming, Get the hell out of here? They were fighting with them. Then he steps and he puts himself right in the way of these people. And then he takes something and starts putting it on their body, touching them or close. And somebody said it was a scanner, whatever it was. I’m not saying anything one way or the other. I’m just saying, What did he stand right in their path? And he moved right into their path. And the soldiers knew him.
Mr. Bender: Do you think he’s still you still think he might be Antifa?
Mr. Trump: If you look at his tweets, he certainly had things about Antifa on his tweets. You saw that right? And he deleted his entire account when the people started going, because they saw the tweets, and then he deleted his entire account. So what’s that all about? No, I don’t like to see people hurt. But he put himself right into the midst of the soldiers. These police, they meant business. They were walking and he puts himself right there. And you could tell they knew him. They knew him. But he’s had a long history. Too bad he had to get hurt.
Mr. Bender: You opened this on polls, let’s end it there. Sounds like there’s a big gap in Arizona. Iowa is tightening. How are you feeling about things right now?
Mr. Trump: I hear we’re doing very well in the polls. And I see we’re doing very well. We have polls. And if you look at a lot of the polls, they’re very heavily weighted Democrat,
But I hear we’re doing very well. We’ll see. We’ll get to know soon enough. This is no different than what I had in a certain other election in 2016. And they would tell me about the poll,
Mr. Bender: You see parallels with the two races?
Mr. Trump: I think this is far worse. I think the press is more dishonest now than it was in 2016. They call them suppression polls. I think that I’m way ahead in Iowa. How could I not be ahead? I took care of the farmers better than anybody who’s ever taken care of farmers? Biden would never do it. He wouldn’t even know that they had a problem. How could they possibly go for Biden. He wouldn’t know the farmers even at a problem. They were targeted for $12 billion and $16 billion, and I got them $12 billion and $16 billion out of the tariffs that China was paying us and had a lot of money left over for the United States Treasury.
Mr. Bender: I know you’re not happy about the press coverage. Sometimes it seems you want to run against the press more than you do against Biden.
Mr. Trump: I just think that I don’t think the press is extremely dishonest. The only thing I can’t figure out is why. Go back a couple of months and take a look at what we’ve done.
And then we would have started with the debt, and we would have started with cutting and you know, bringing things, really, I mean, we were in such great shape. And you think people would love having a strong military and low taxes and all of these things that we had. It was, you know, we have the strongest military now we’ve ever had. One of the things I did also, I don’t even know if it’s in here, the wall. Our border security now is as good as it’s ever been. But we just completed 212 miles of wall. And that’s one of the reasons—that’s a lot, you know, in the most critical areas. And nobody gets through that wall. That wall is the real deal. And so that’s a big thing. But we’ll see you again, Michael.
Mr. Bender: Who do you think Biden should pick as his VP? I’ll leave you on that.
Mr. Trump: I mean, he said he’s going to pick a woman. So I would imagine he’s going to pick a woman. I would hope so. I don’t want to really guesstimate, but you know, there are probably three or four that I would see as being viable. More than that.
Mr. Bender: Thank you very much for the time.
Mr. Trump: Any time.
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 19 June 2020 14:11 (three years ago) link
idk that is some really flimsy ground to for this dude of all people to stand on xp
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 19 June 2020 14:11 (three years ago) link
Is that actually worth reading?
― nashwan, Friday, 19 June 2020 14:12 (three years ago) link
hahaha the first thing he mentions in the interview is poll numbers
― treeship., Friday, 19 June 2020 14:12 (three years ago) link
fuck this shit - say anti-fascist
― nashwan, Friday, 19 June 2020 14:14 (three years ago) link
this part
Mr. Bender: Do you think that there’s systemic racism in the country?Mr. Trump: In the country?Mr. Bender: Yes. In America.Mr. Trump: Hopefully not. But there’s always something going on that’s bad, because there’s always something going on. Here, let me just see that for a second. (Mr. Trump’s assistant hands the president a chart with the number of coronavirus deaths, which total about 12,800.)OK. Yeah. So, that number. When he mentioned he said 12,500. So he said at 12,500, one person died under the age of 18. So I think that a lot of these are older persons. So I’m very happy I’m young and in perfect condition. OK?Mr. Bender: You said you hope there’s not systemic racism. Do you think there is?Mr. Trump: I would like to think there is not. Yeah, I would like to think there is not such systemic racism. And it would be whatever I can do to make myself correct on that thought, I’d like to do it. Now, unfortunately, in the real world, there is some. But I would like to, whatever I could do to reduce that or get rid of it, I’d be very happy with.Are you asking in police departments or the U. S.?Mr. Bender: I meant systemic racism. In police departments, in hiring practices...Mr. Trump: Yeah, I’d like to think there is not but unfortunately, there probably is some. I would also say it’s very substantially less than it used to be.Mr. Bender: How are you thinking about some of these issues? I know your position on law and orders is very clear. You’ve had some public events with the police. You had some victim’s families in here yesterday. But when it comes to...Mr. Trump: By the way that was a very impactful moment. The people I met were incredible people.Mr. Bender: Impactful in what way? What did you take away from that?Mr. Trump: Meeting the parents, in most cases, parents. of young people, sons in many of the cases, a daughter in one case, that were killed is devastating. To see the parents and so needless, I mean, it should never have happened. I met with a large number of parents that were just, I mean, their lives have been torn apart.Mr. Bender: Did any of those cases resonate with you? Any particular story that stands out?Mr. Trump: All of them.Mr. Bender: Was there one that stood out?Mr. Trump: All of them. Ahmed. Ahmad. He is the young man who was running. It was just sad to see. The mother was a fantastic woman. Made a great impression. They all made a great impression on me. In fact, after that I had the speech with the law enforcement. So we had two meetings. And it was very interesting because they were very different meetings, very important meetings. But the impact of meeting the parents was very important.
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 19 June 2020 14:17 (three years ago) link
that video was fucking hilarious. as always, the real victim is Trump. at least quality-wise it's better than the one he tweeted last night of the little white and black boys embracing that misspelled "toddler"
― Evans on Hammond (evol j), Friday, 19 June 2020 14:17 (three years ago) link
"But there’s always something going on that’s bad, because there’s always something going on."
July thread title imo
― Evans on Hammond (evol j), Friday, 19 June 2020 14:19 (three years ago) link
tl;dr
Mr. Trump: Who is full of shit?Mr. Bender: You, sir.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 19 June 2020 14:20 (three years ago) link
posted unread
who the HELL would wade thru all that gibberish
― brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Friday, 19 June 2020 14:21 (three years ago) link
Me! Because you get gems like this, Re: Bolton:
He’s a hardliner, but I call him a stupid liner
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 19 June 2020 14:23 (three years ago) link
tl;dr x100
― Rapsputin (Tom D.), Friday, 19 June 2020 14:25 (three years ago) link
I did laugh at "So I’m very happy I’m young and in perfect condition. OK?" Must be all that Diet Coke.
― nashwan, Friday, 19 June 2020 14:36 (three years ago) link
this is the type of sentiment that will hit hard with people longing for "normalcy." ... i feel like this general message that the media is out to divide America and trump stands, instead, for solidarity, will be effective. usually he just screeches in a messy way about "fake news!" and "trump derangement syndrome!" so it seems idiotic but actual media people could make it hit home harder. i think this video is a glimpse of that
Just admit you're Chuck Todd.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Friday, 19 June 2020 15:30 (three years ago) link
I had two African-American friends and supporters.
I want to rename the politics thread again.
― Irritable Baal (WmC), Friday, 19 June 2020 15:43 (three years ago) link
You really get a sense of how he operates as he calls on his aides to back him up while he stumbles through his answers. Coronavirus? Protests? Um yeah, that's fake news... really unfair... Hey secretary, bring me my list of accomplishments! Find that Washington Post article that defended my walk down the ramp! Hey bodyguard, you're black, have you ever heard about this Juneteenth thing?
― BrianB, Friday, 19 June 2020 16:19 (three years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vx5ii-MlCD4
― Anti-Cop Ponceortium (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Sunday, 21 June 2020 12:09 (three years ago) link
wish someone had shopped in Snoopy's doghouse in the background somewhere
― Pinche Cumbion Bien Loco (stevie), Sunday, 21 June 2020 12:35 (three years ago) link
oh damn, i respect whoever did that for marking sure the music was buried under the ever-present sound of the helicopter blades
― time is running out to pitch in $5 (Karl Malone), Sunday, 21 June 2020 15:42 (three years ago) link
This worked, too:
I’m sure! After the walk of shame!! Trump Returning home after his disappointing Rally! Cover, Foreigner - 'I Want To Know What Love Is' (SOUND UP) #TrumpWannaKnowWhatLoveIs pic.twitter.com/0MWqG3NvT0— Just Vent (@JustVent6) June 21, 2020
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 21 June 2020 18:59 (three years ago) link
I do wonder how Trump can walk so normally after that stroke that left him unable to manage a drink of water?
― the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Sunday, 21 June 2020 19:09 (three years ago) link
XP Now somebody do one with "Walk of Life"...
― "...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 21 June 2020 19:11 (three years ago) link
Metallica's One
― Pinche Cumbion Bien Loco (stevie), Sunday, 21 June 2020 19:56 (three years ago) link
Until tonight, I have never seen a man leaving with his hat LITERALLY in his hands. pic.twitter.com/7RquAQC858— Derek Sheen (@DerekSheen) June 21, 2020
― but also fuck you (unperson), Sunday, 21 June 2020 20:07 (three years ago) link
Josh said "Maybe?" a week ago, and five people dismissed it a week ago, this is not a major issue that needs debunking itt (also homeboy does not walk normally for a regular human, but that's a different matter)
― an, uh, razor of love (sic), Sunday, 21 June 2020 21:10 (three years ago) link
has anyone seen this film?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y415jk42fs8
― S-, Tuesday, 23 June 2020 07:15 (three years ago) link
(Josh, my partner who's a physical therapist and works with stroke victims all the time said that he didn't look like someone who'd had a stroke)
― change display name (Jordan), Tuesday, 23 June 2020 12:29 (three years ago) link
I don't really think he had a stroke. Just the combination of tilting that glass of water that particular day, and the ramp nonsense, was odd. Of course, he is obese and carries himself oddly, anyway, so you have to figure he's in some constant state of discomfort: back brace, plus lifts, plus tall and obese, plus diapers, plus ill-fitting suits, not to mention having a perfectly coifed hair helmet that he doesn't want to mess up that forces him to limit his own mobility to preserve said coif. Plus poor eyesight and a refusal to wear glasses, and so on ... he might be a run of the mill mess perfectly in line with many of his age, but he's a mess all the same. Mentally, I think the stuff people point to as dementia is just streams of bullshit brought on by him refusing to read or memorize or practice speeches (the unprepared book report presentation theory). If he "dominates" conversations then he controls the conversation, which means not getting called out for ignorance or inability to read.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 23 June 2020 13:45 (three years ago) link
back brace, plus lifts, plus tall and obese, plus diapers, plus ill-fitting suits
Not to defend this clown but it's also possible he's wearing a bulletproof vest, which would certainly affect things like standing and walking normally
― If you choose too long a name, your new display name will be tru (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 23 June 2020 13:58 (three years ago) link
If Trump gets beaten (especially decisively) in November, that helicopter walk video is going to be the Saigon embassy image of his presidency.
― Night of the Living Crustheads (PBKR), Tuesday, 23 June 2020 14:18 (three years ago) link
I honestly don't know much about presidents wearing vests and how often they do it. I wonder if he would brag about it or not?
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 23 June 2020 14:18 (three years ago) link
Barack and Michelle's clothes had to be altered to accommodate vests for their inauguration walk. Right-wingers used that imagery for years as a way to call her fat and/or secretly a man. Classy!
― If you choose too long a name, your new display name will be tru (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 23 June 2020 14:30 (three years ago) link
If anything, Trump is probably wearing a Nathan Fielder chili vest that he can take a slurp from when he starts getting peckish.
― Well, that's a fine howdy adieu! (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 23 June 2020 14:38 (three years ago) link
also a good way to make a buck on the side
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 23 June 2020 16:21 (three years ago) link
but it's also possible he's wearing a bulletproof vest
he was addressing the US Military Academy at West Point and the Secret Service routinely sweeps areas where a president is about to spend time in public, so a bulletproof vest would seem to be unlikely.
― the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Tuesday, 23 June 2020 16:46 (three years ago) link
Fragging tho.
― "...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 23 June 2020 16:49 (three years ago) link
remember we're talking about a man who won't wear a face mask
― the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Tuesday, 23 June 2020 16:52 (three years ago) link
xpost lol
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 23 June 2020 16:53 (three years ago) link
yeah but that goes on your face where people can see how weak it makes you look
― j., Tuesday, 23 June 2020 17:24 (three years ago) link
and he was also so relaxed he took time out to inspect the White House bunker in the previous week
― assert (MatthewK), Tuesday, 23 June 2020 19:50 (three years ago) link
kind of chilling to hear trump go on an extended rant about mail-in ballots, his supporters cheering him every time he pauses to take a breath. he repeated 10 lies about mail-in ballots and voter fraud, and added a few i'd never heard of. "- and who is signing them? what, are they signing them at the kitchen table?" he also started saying "at the end there's going to be huge bat-" before cutting himself off.
later:
"this will be, in my opinion, the most corrupt election in the history of this country. we cannot let this happen, and they want it to happen so badly. we believe in the sacred principle of one person, one vote."
oh yeah, and he just said "some people don't want to hear this, but we must have voter ID"
― time is running out to pitch in $5 (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 23 June 2020 23:37 (three years ago) link
i'm sure the takeaway will be that trump is really sweating a lot, more than i've ever seen him sweat. it's easier to talk about that then how intensely surreal and creepy it is to have a wannabe dictator openly describe his fascist plans while everyone cheers him on
― time is running out to pitch in $5 (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 23 June 2020 23:39 (three years ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/yGO4Z3l.png
this is a "Students for Trump" event, so these *students* are talking right now. i muted them, and then when i unmuted for just a second, i heard "-and they let antifa run over our vets-
*actually middle aged men in teenager suits
the guy on the right is talking now. "i was attacked by radical left students over a condition that i have that affects my ability to grow hair"he also "saw a Antifa logo in the passageway"
way to go hitler youth!
― time is running out to pitch in $5 (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 23 June 2020 23:43 (three years ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/AqwHLZG.png
next up is Reagan, who recently had a negative experience with "cancel culture" due to her religious beliefs.
she saw an evangelist demand that white people get down on their knees and apologize for the color of their skin. but she wouldn't take it. she told the preacher (on twitter i think):
"it is a problem of the heart. it is not a problem that can be solved by any law, protest, or march"
it was those beliefs, her defense of the heart, that caused her to get canceled by her leftist friends. the internet exploded at her - she lost some friends. then she lost her job. but here's the thing - a job is nothing compared to the grace of god.
and her experience is just one example of what's happening across the entire country.
lol now she's talking about Aunt Jemima getting canceled!
Reagan says the first Aunt Jemima was "the face of the american dream", she fought for equality. now the american left mob is trying to erase her legacy.
now she says that leftists are making jesus christ the face of white supremacy. last week she thought leftists thought jesus was the face of socialism. now he's the face of white supremacy. reagan is confused.
finally, from the bottom of her heart, reagan would like to think trump for never, ever apologizing to the leftists. god bless america
https://i.imgur.com/DvwpBgf.png
― time is running out to pitch in $5 (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 23 June 2020 23:52 (three years ago) link
Watching that kind of stuff is like having something annoying stuck between your teeth and having your tongue constantly touching it to see if it is still there. Yup. Yup. Yup. Yup. Still there. Yup.
― the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Tuesday, 23 June 2020 23:56 (three years ago) link
if the "something" in that metaphor is birdshit
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 23 June 2020 23:57 (three years ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/L1rzYGA.png
this person, a turning point usa staffer, is currently delivering the message that all lives matter. she thinks it is interesting that black lives matter only shows up during election years. if they really believed that black lives matter, they would defund planned parenthood. now she is thanking the president for his work with african americans, for example, his funding of HBCUs and creation of Opportunity Zones, and "all without pandering"
― time is running out to pitch in $5 (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 23 June 2020 23:59 (three years ago) link
"that's where you're at, you're at a crossroads", trump says, standing in front of Turning Point USA's branding
― time is running out to pitch in $5 (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 24 June 2020 00:00 (three years ago) link
now he says "this moment will be remembered as a Turning Point" in the history of our country
― time is running out to pitch in $5 (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 24 June 2020 00:03 (three years ago) link
btw, brad parscale just gave trump a big pat on the back as he stepped off the stage to the stones' "you can't always get what you want"
― time is running out to pitch in $5 (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 24 June 2020 00:04 (three years ago) link
my bad, that was jerry falwell jr, not parscale
― time is running out to pitch in $5 (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 24 June 2020 00:07 (three years ago) link
i didn't see any shots of the crowd, except at the very end as everyone was standing up and facing away from the camera. but i'd guess that around 30-40% of people were wearing masks, if that. here's a little yellow dot on all the people who clearly aren't. (i'm being very conservative here)
https://i.imgur.com/fmD6Ph8.jpg
― time is running out to pitch in $5 (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 24 June 2020 00:11 (three years ago) link
i mean if a bunch of hitler youth get covid in the midst of shouting out praise for their fascist leader, i guess it's at least a partial win. too bad they'll go back to their shitty friends and family and get them sick too, because eventually one of their shitty friends or family will interact with the rest of the world and get them sick as well.
― time is running out to pitch in $5 (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 24 June 2020 00:13 (three years ago) link
openly describe his fascist plans while everyone cheers him on
but they are fascist plans on behalf of keeping those cheering people comfortably in power and well-served ahead of everyone else. ofc they cheer that.
― the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Wednesday, 24 June 2020 00:14 (three years ago) link
yikes
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 24 June 2020 00:30 (three years ago) link
Business, politics, religion - it all gets mixed up together
― time is running out to pitch in $5 (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 24 June 2020 00:33 (three years ago) link
I never really thought about it before, but there must be a couple generations now of conservatives that have cursed their daughters with the name "Reagan".
― "...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 24 June 2020 00:42 (three years ago) link
Like "Nancy" wasn't good enough or too deferential.
― "...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 24 June 2020 00:43 (three years ago) link
it's a great excuse to change your name, tbh. many times i have wanted to change my name. but it's such a pain in the ass, and i wouldn't want to have to answer any questions about why i did it.
but people named reagan? life circumstances are practically _begging_ them to take this opportunity to change their name to whatever they want, anything at all
― time is running out to pitch in $5 (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 24 June 2020 00:44 (three years ago) link
a friend from HS has a girl named Reagan
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 24 June 2020 00:45 (three years ago) link
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 24 June 2020 00:46 (three years ago) link
was gonna say
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 24 June 2020 01:29 (three years ago) link
OMG, how did I never realize that movie was a political allegory
― Well, that's a fine howdy adieu! (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 24 June 2020 01:37 (three years ago) link
“Aunt Jemima was canceled… She was the picture of the American dream. She was a freed slave who went on to be the face of the pancake syrup." -- A student at Trump’s event on Tuesday pic.twitter.com/jgONhiXiza— Peter Wade 🤦♂️ (@brooklynmutt) June 24, 2020
― time is running out to pitch in $5 (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 24 June 2020 02:22 (three years ago) link
People thinking Aunt Jemima and Uncle Ben were both real people and founders of their respective brands is really weird.
― "...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 24 June 2020 02:48 (three years ago) link
if you watch the clip, you'll hear that she does refer to the original basis for the character/logo. but it's no less weird to think that being emancipated from slavery is part of 'the american dream'.
― j., Wednesday, 24 June 2020 02:53 (three years ago) link
I actually haven't looked at the clip yet, but I have seen some poorly researched social media posts by conservatives harping on how disrespectful this is to the real Jemima & Ben.
― "...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 24 June 2020 02:56 (three years ago) link
Gosh she seems so innocently happy back in the day, just hanging with the Frito Bandito and Injun Orange Funny Facehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ipamH6EEwI
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 24 June 2020 03:42 (three years ago) link
I await a passionate young person's defense of the Kool-Aid man forthwith.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Wednesday, 24 June 2020 05:24 (three years ago) link
well it starts with a dialectical inversion of adorno
― j., Wednesday, 24 June 2020 05:45 (three years ago) link
The President uses the term “Kung Flu” again and says “COVID, COVID-19, COVID, I said what’s the 19. COVID-19, some people can’t explain the 19.” pic.twitter.com/9tD6dC8aGB— Acyn Torabi (@Acyn) June 23, 2020
― Scampidocio (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 24 June 2020 07:46 (three years ago) link
You don't need to go to social media, you can find these right here on ILX.
― Night of the Living Crustheads (PBKR), Wednesday, 24 June 2020 11:37 (three years ago) link
“COVID, COVID-19, COVID, I said what’s the 19. COVID-19, some people can’t explain the 19.”
Adolf 'Itler.
― Future England Captain (Tom D.), Wednesday, 24 June 2020 11:49 (three years ago) link
Trump claims he's personally "changed designs" of Navy ships, instructing officials that "this is not a good looking ship. Let's change the design of it, & I got people in, & we looked at different designs.""I said, 'that's a terrible looking ship. Let's make it beautiful.'" pic.twitter.com/FpI5GxeYAG— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) June 25, 2020
― Scampidocio (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 26 June 2020 08:07 (three years ago) link
^ fits well with the anecdote some underling circulated a few years ago, about how in his casino-building era he spent almost all his time looking at fabric swatches.
― the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Friday, 26 June 2020 16:13 (three years ago) link
If only someone had told him at a young age that interior design was a profession he could have entered.
― Well, that's a fine howdy adieu! (Old Lunch), Friday, 26 June 2020 16:26 (three years ago) link
Even his doctor doesn't want to enter that interior.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 26 June 2020 16:38 (three years ago) link
i don't think the doctor will fit, but two raccoons will
https://i.ibb.co/wYx1MKd/106098202-564936704414053-2468858543960596891-o.jpg
― I hear that sometimes Satan wants to defund police (Neanderthal), Friday, 26 June 2020 16:43 (three years ago) link
fits well with the anecdote some underling circulated a few years ago, about how in his casino-building era he spent almost all his time looking at fabric swatches.
related story, the Dilbert guy (who as you probably know is a huge MAGA idiot these days) once opened up a restaurant that quickly went under and some of the employees said the only detail he really paid attention to was the curtains for some reason. like, he didn't give a shit about the food, just the lighting
― frogbs, Friday, 26 June 2020 16:46 (three years ago) link
https://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/11/business/11dilbert.html
― Wayne Grotski (symsymsym), Friday, 26 June 2020 16:54 (three years ago) link
He believes proper light is the primary factor in a restaurant’s success — not food, price, location, location or location. “With the right light, you look better and your date looks better,” he said. “That influences your impression of everything else.”
But when they designed their space, Mr. Adams and Ms. Belkin blundered by creating multiple, large floor-to-ceiling storefront windows that are now proving impossibly expensive to cover.
He always despised the light in the restaurant. So, skeptical employees in tow, he embarked on a surreal hunt for window coverings. One interior decorator after another suggested translucent curtains, or curtains that gather on the sides, or curtains designed to stay rolled up.
“Every meeting was the same conversation,” he said. “They couldn’t understand that the point was to have less light.” Roman shades would have done the trick, but they cost $50,000.
The project was temporarily shelved this fall, but not before it had become a source of comedy among the wait staff. “At this point, I’m sure he wouldn’t care if we put cardboard on windows,” said Kristina Jernigan, the bar manager.
― Wayne Grotski (symsymsym), Friday, 26 June 2020 16:55 (three years ago) link
rich guy has no skills whatsoever and gets obsessed with interior design in his shitty shop is a major plot point in the (very bad) michael winterbottom/steve coogan vehicle, "greed"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3ZJB1zUY7g
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 26 June 2020 17:09 (three years ago) link
"A friend of mine said, 'you have to be the most perfect person.' Isn't that true?" -- Trump pic.twitter.com/9OWptMZngV— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) June 26, 2020
― mookieproof, Friday, 26 June 2020 18:49 (three years ago) link
Everyone who applauded that should be put to sleep.
― Well, that's a fine howdy adieu! (Old Lunch), Friday, 26 June 2020 18:52 (three years ago) link
sure, but both sides. remember when obama was always mentioning how everyone called him perfect, and we all applauded without hesitation?
― time is running out to pitch in $5 (Karl Malone), Friday, 26 June 2020 18:56 (three years ago) link
A friend of mine, by the name of John Barron.
― circa1916, Friday, 26 June 2020 21:32 (three years ago) link
Also I love that there is a wiki page for Trump pseudonymshttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pseudonyms_of_Donald_Trump
― circa1916, Friday, 26 June 2020 21:33 (three years ago) link
Slow morning at work so I spent an hour filling my cart with merch at the Trump/Pence store. Sorted by best selling and bought 10 of everything in every size available. Currently have 1000 items in my cart for a total $37,267.50. Apparently, if I abandon my cart before checking out it causes all sorts of costly problems on their end. It’s the least I can do.
― ... (Yelploaf), Saturday, 27 June 2020 18:44 (three years ago) link
Can anyone confirm that's effective?
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Saturday, 27 June 2020 22:25 (three years ago) link
yeah, I've been trying to find out what exactly it does other than temporarily make items look sold out
― I hear that sometimes Satan wants to defund police (Neanderthal), Saturday, 27 June 2020 22:27 (three years ago) link
jfc you guys 1 out of 100 times, you accidentally purchase everything, which effectively gives you tons of new merch
― time is running out to pitch in $5 (Karl Malone), Saturday, 27 June 2020 23:35 (three years ago) link
we weren't supposed to complete the transaction?
shit
― I hear that sometimes Satan wants to defund police (Neanderthal), Saturday, 27 June 2020 23:41 (three years ago) link
Sorry, the “jfc you guys” was meant for the Homegrown thread #onethread
― time is running out to pitch in $5 (Karl Malone), Saturday, 27 June 2020 23:41 (three years ago) link
There is only one thread in the world. One thread, with many faces.
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Sunday, 28 June 2020 01:58 (three years ago) link
I can’t say if it’s effective but it was fun to think I’d gummed up the works.
https://www.distractify.com/p/why-is-digital-shopping-cart-abandonment-a-problem
― ... (Yelploaf), Sunday, 28 June 2020 02:27 (three years ago) link
so i'm trying to mess with this and it seems locked to 3 of each item?
― Clay, Sunday, 28 June 2020 02:56 (three years ago) link
ffs ppl
― mookieproof, Sunday, 28 June 2020 03:23 (three years ago) link
What kind of e-commerce platform/POS takes something out of inventory before payment?
― Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Sunday, 28 June 2020 03:43 (three years ago) link
a trump powered one
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Sunday, 28 June 2020 03:48 (three years ago) link
Fair.
― Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Sunday, 28 June 2020 04:14 (three years ago) link
Pretty sure the reason Trump is defending the confederate flag/statues/names of military bases is that when he loses the election and tries to invalidate the election, he’s going to declare himself the leader of the next confederacy. All the boogaloo types are internally conflicted right now because they want to support Trump but they are supposed to be anti-government. That won’t be a problem when he’s not the president anymore. Then he’ll be the “resistance” to the Biden government and he can add the boogaloos to his militia/army. Hopefully he’s gotten so used to being able to do whatever he wants with absolute impunity, that once he’s no longer in power, he’ll do something stupid out of habit like declare a revolt, and he’ll get his ass thrown in jail for sedition.
― epistantophus, Sunday, 28 June 2020 14:21 (three years ago) link
Uh
― I hear that sometimes Satan wants to defund police (Neanderthal), Sunday, 28 June 2020 14:22 (three years ago) link
Or maybe there will be a peaceful transition of power, who knows. Why even worry, right? When has the worst case scenario ever happened?
― epistantophus, Sunday, 28 June 2020 14:27 (three years ago) link
I am absolutely shocked that his fans haven't started sculpting and installing public Trump statues.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 28 June 2020 14:53 (three years ago) link
Besides this one of course:
https://www.madametussauds.com/media/1731083/jdh_21.jpg?width=500&height=360
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 28 June 2020 14:55 (three years ago) link
https://i1.wp.com/altoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/Trump-3.jpg?w=1392&ssl=1
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 28 June 2020 14:56 (three years ago) link
I much prefer this one:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CqLNI1QUEAA5A2c.jpg
― pomenitul, Sunday, 28 June 2020 14:58 (three years ago) link
A friend of mine has a relative in Norway who lives in a pop. 5000 town near a fjord and whose hobby is to sculpt reverential statues in Trump's likeness.
― pomenitul, Sunday, 28 June 2020 15:01 (three years ago) link
ban pom imo
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Sunday, 28 June 2020 15:05 (three years ago) link
Worth getting banned over such eye candy tbh.
― pomenitul, Sunday, 28 June 2020 15:10 (three years ago) link
Why would a person living in a country that shares a border with Russia want to nevermind
― sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Sunday, 28 June 2020 15:19 (three years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/InGXFD2.png
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 29 June 2020 03:42 (three years ago) link
https://www.mcsweeneys.net/articles/the-complete-listing-so-far-atrocities-1-759Color coded! And sparing!
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 30 June 2020 18:13 (three years ago) link
Could they use a larger font size?</chandlerbing>
― Well, that's a fine howdy adieu! (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 30 June 2020 18:16 (three years ago) link
awful plate approach here. garbage load position and his swing plane isnt getting a ball out of the infield. pic.twitter.com/3s1KJhTHtG— Clinton Yates (@clintonyates) July 2, 2020
― brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 2 July 2020 17:07 (three years ago) link
now i see why my dad @gtconway3d tweets about trump. this shit is so fun— CLAUDIA CONWAY (@claudiamconwayy) July 2, 2020
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 2 July 2020 17:22 (three years ago) link
Lmao
― treeship., Thursday, 2 July 2020 17:23 (three years ago) link
TO DREAM THE IMPOSSIBLE DREAM ... LAS VEGAS! pic.twitter.com/wBDYUFIite— Kenneth P. Vogel (@kenvogel) July 4, 2020
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 4 July 2020 18:26 (three years ago) link
i wonder if he sided with the villain in chinatown
― wasdnous (abanana), Saturday, 4 July 2020 19:56 (three years ago) link
would love to hear his synopsis of Bugsy.
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Saturday, 4 July 2020 22:03 (three years ago) link
(xpost) Can easily imagine someone asking him in 2015, "You're rich [pretend for a minute that is indeed true], you're famous, you've got your own TV show...Why are you doing it? How much better can you eat? What could you buy that you can't already afford?"
"The future, Mr. Scaramucci, the future!"
― clemenza, Saturday, 4 July 2020 22:16 (three years ago) link
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trumps-worldview-forged-by-neglect-and-trauma-at-home-his-niece-says-in-new-book/2020/07/07/b19b22f6-bf9d-11ea-864a-0dd31b9d6917_story.html
A tell-all book by President Trump’s niece describes a family riven by a series of traumas, exacerbated by a daunting patriarch who “destroyed” Donald Trump by short-circuiting his “ability to develop and experience the entire spectrum of human emotion,” according to a copy of the forthcoming memoir obtained by The Washington Post.President Trump’s view of the world was shaped by his desire during childhood to avoid his father’s disapproval, according to the niece, Mary L. Trump, whose book is by turns a family history and a psychological analysis of her uncle.Mary’s father, Fred Jr., — the president’s older brother — died of an alcohol-related illness when she was 16 years old in 1981. President Trump told The Washington Post last year that he and his father both pushed Fred Jr. to try to go into the family business, which Trump said he now regrets.Donald escaped his father’s scorn and ridicule, Mary Trump wrote, because “his personality served his father’s purpose. That’s what sociopaths do: they co-opt others and use them toward their own ends — ruthlessly and efficiently, with no tolerance for dissent or resistance.”The president, Mary Trump wrote, is a product of his domineering father and was acutely aware of avoiding the scorn that he heaped on his older brother, called Freddy, Trump writes.“By limiting Donald’s access to his own feelings and rendering many of them unacceptable, Fred perverted his son’s perception of the world and damaged his ability to live in it.”Mary Trump wrote that her grandfather’s children routinely lied to him but for different reasons. For her father, “lying was defensive — not simply a way to circumvent his father’s disapproval or to avoid punishment, as it was for the others, but a way to survive.”For her uncle Donald, however, “lying was primarily a mode of self-aggrandizement meant to convince other people he was better than he actually was,” Trump writes.Mary wrote that her father had a “natural sense of humor, sense of adventure, and sensitivity,” which he worked hard to hide from the family patriarch.“Softness was unthinkable in his namesake,” she writes.“Fred (Sr.) hated it when his oldest son screwed up or failed to intuit what was required of him, but he hated it even more then, after being taken to task, Freddy (Fred Jr.) apologized. ‘Sorry, Dad,’” Mary wrote of the way her grandfather treated her father, known as Freddy. Fred Sr. “would mock him. Fred wanted his oldest son to be a ‘killer.’”Donald, seven-and-a-half years younger than his brother, “had plenty of time to learn from watching Fred humiliate” his eldest son, Mary Trump wrote.“The lesson he learned, at its simplest, was that it was wrong to be like Freddy: Fred didn’t respect his oldest son, so neither would Donald.”The book, “Too Much and Never Enough: How My Family Created the World’s Most Dangerous Man,” became an instant bestseller based on advance orders, underscoring the intense interest among the public about the forces that shaped the man who became president.Mary Trump, 55, who has a doctoral degree in clinical psychology, shares a history of family tragedy and division with President Trump. In 1981, when she was 16 years old, her father Fred Jr. — the president’s older brother — died of an alcohol-related disease. Friends of her father told The Washington Post last year that they questioned whether Donald and other members of the family bore some responsibility for Fred Jr.’s decline.Mary Trump once stood up to her uncle Donald. How her book describes a ‘nightmare’ of family dysfunction.President Trump, who rarely admits mistakes, told The Post in an interview last year that he regrets the way he way he and his father pressured his brother to go into the family business instead of encouraging to continue with the dream of becoming a commercial airline pilot.“I do regret having put pressure on him,” Trump said. Running the family business “was just something he was never going to want” to do. “It was just not his thing. . . . I think the mistake that we made was we assumed that everybody would like it. That would be the biggest mistake. . . . There was sort of a double pressure put on him” by his brother and his father.Trump pressured his alcoholic brother about his career. Now he says he has regrets.After her father died, the Trump family agreed to help support Mary and her brother Fred III.But when Mary’s grandfather Fred Sr. died in 1999, she and her brother did not get the inheritance they expected, a sum that might have equaled the amount that would have gone to their father, if he had lived. Mary and Fred contested Fred Sr.’s will, contending that one or more people connected to the Trump family coerced him to change it and give them less money.Fred and Mary eventually reached a settlement with Donald and his siblings, receiving an undisclosed amount and signing a confidentiality agreement. President Trump’s younger brother, Robert, filed a petition in New York Supreme Court seeking to stop publication on grounds that she had agreed not to publish an account of the family. But the court’s appellate division ruled last week that the publisher, Simon & Schuster, was not a party to that agreement and lifted a temporary restraining order against it.As Donald Trump announced his candidacy in 2015, Mary Trump does not appear to have said anything publicly about him.But when it became clear that her uncle had won the presidency, she took to Twitter. “Worst night of my life,” she wrote at least 12 times in tweets that have been deleted recently. She wrote that “We should be judged harshly. . . . I grieve for our country.”The publisher said it had already shipped thousands of copies, and it moved the publication to July 14, two weeks ahead of the original schedule. Mary Trump has sought to lift the temporary restraining against her, and a decision on that could come within days.
President Trump’s view of the world was shaped by his desire during childhood to avoid his father’s disapproval, according to the niece, Mary L. Trump, whose book is by turns a family history and a psychological analysis of her uncle.
Mary’s father, Fred Jr., — the president’s older brother — died of an alcohol-related illness when she was 16 years old in 1981. President Trump told The Washington Post last year that he and his father both pushed Fred Jr. to try to go into the family business, which Trump said he now regrets.
Donald escaped his father’s scorn and ridicule, Mary Trump wrote, because “his personality served his father’s purpose. That’s what sociopaths do: they co-opt others and use them toward their own ends — ruthlessly and efficiently, with no tolerance for dissent or resistance.”
The president, Mary Trump wrote, is a product of his domineering father and was acutely aware of avoiding the scorn that he heaped on his older brother, called Freddy, Trump writes.“By limiting Donald’s access to his own feelings and rendering many of them unacceptable, Fred perverted his son’s perception of the world and damaged his ability to live in it.”
Mary Trump wrote that her grandfather’s children routinely lied to him but for different reasons. For her father, “lying was defensive — not simply a way to circumvent his father’s disapproval or to avoid punishment, as it was for the others, but a way to survive.”
For her uncle Donald, however, “lying was primarily a mode of self-aggrandizement meant to convince other people he was better than he actually was,” Trump writes.Mary wrote that her father had a “natural sense of humor, sense of adventure, and sensitivity,” which he worked hard to hide from the family patriarch.
“Softness was unthinkable in his namesake,” she writes.
“Fred (Sr.) hated it when his oldest son screwed up or failed to intuit what was required of him, but he hated it even more then, after being taken to task, Freddy (Fred Jr.) apologized. ‘Sorry, Dad,’” Mary wrote of the way her grandfather treated her father, known as Freddy. Fred Sr. “would mock him. Fred wanted his oldest son to be a ‘killer.’”
Donald, seven-and-a-half years younger than his brother, “had plenty of time to learn from watching Fred humiliate” his eldest son, Mary Trump wrote.
“The lesson he learned, at its simplest, was that it was wrong to be like Freddy: Fred didn’t respect his oldest son, so neither would Donald.”
The book, “Too Much and Never Enough: How My Family Created the World’s Most Dangerous Man,” became an instant bestseller based on advance orders, underscoring the intense interest among the public about the forces that shaped the man who became president.
Mary Trump, 55, who has a doctoral degree in clinical psychology, shares a history of family tragedy and division with President Trump. In 1981, when she was 16 years old, her father Fred Jr. — the president’s older brother — died of an alcohol-related disease. Friends of her father told The Washington Post last year that they questioned whether Donald and other members of the family bore some responsibility for Fred Jr.’s decline.
Mary Trump once stood up to her uncle Donald. How her book describes a ‘nightmare’ of family dysfunction.
President Trump, who rarely admits mistakes, told The Post in an interview last year that he regrets the way he way he and his father pressured his brother to go into the family business instead of encouraging to continue with the dream of becoming a commercial airline pilot.
“I do regret having put pressure on him,” Trump said. Running the family business “was just something he was never going to want” to do. “It was just not his thing. . . . I think the mistake that we made was we assumed that everybody would like it. That would be the biggest mistake. . . . There was sort of a double pressure put on him” by his brother and his father.Trump pressured his alcoholic brother about his career. Now he says he has regrets.
After her father died, the Trump family agreed to help support Mary and her brother Fred III.
But when Mary’s grandfather Fred Sr. died in 1999, she and her brother did not get the inheritance they expected, a sum that might have equaled the amount that would have gone to their father, if he had lived. Mary and Fred contested Fred Sr.’s will, contending that one or more people connected to the Trump family coerced him to change it and give them less money.
Fred and Mary eventually reached a settlement with Donald and his siblings, receiving an undisclosed amount and signing a confidentiality agreement. President Trump’s younger brother, Robert, filed a petition in New York Supreme Court seeking to stop publication on grounds that she had agreed not to publish an account of the family. But the court’s appellate division ruled last week that the publisher, Simon & Schuster, was not a party to that agreement and lifted a temporary restraining order against it.
As Donald Trump announced his candidacy in 2015, Mary Trump does not appear to have said anything publicly about him.But when it became clear that her uncle had won the presidency, she took to Twitter. “Worst night of my life,” she wrote at least 12 times in tweets that have been deleted recently. She wrote that “We should be judged harshly. . . . I grieve for our country.”
The publisher said it had already shipped thousands of copies, and it moved the publication to July 14, two weeks ahead of the original schedule. Mary Trump has sought to lift the temporary restraining against her, and a decision on that could come within days.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 7 July 2020 15:30 (three years ago) link
NEWSFLASH: Loser's family are losers; please pay $29.99 to find out more
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 16:14 (three years ago) link
Book by Trump's Niece a Desperate Plea For Understanding: My Uncle Was Not Always the Coarse, Warped, Despicable and Evil Man He Now Is: He Once Was an Infant: Thought You Should Know: Kthxbye!
― the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 18:04 (three years ago) link
thanks so much for releasing this AFTER he became president, great job niece! congrats as well on your book advance you rich fuck!
― time is running out to pitch in $5 (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 18:14 (three years ago) link
but i'm sure she donates all of her corrupt family's wealth to charity
― time is running out to pitch in $5 (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 18:15 (three years ago) link
she also claims that he hired someone to take the SAT for him, which is simply beyond the pale
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 7 July 2020 18:27 (three years ago) link
god, please make donald trump take a real SAT test right now and publicize his score
i know i talk a lot of shit on you and have actually been actively working to subvert you because i'm 99% sure you are a disinterested or actively malign god, if you exist at all, but i will fucking MAKE IT UP to you if you make this happen
― time is running out to pitch in $5 (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 18:29 (three years ago) link
GOD: ...
*thousands of years pass*
― time is running out to pitch in $5 (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 18:30 (three years ago) link
uh oh, look out, new word from god coming out!!
GOD: ...i have decided....that Cain should be punished
Herman Cain
― I hear that sometimes Satan wants to defund police (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 18:34 (three years ago) link
Herman Cain: "OH LORD, DID YOU MEAN TO PUNISH ME, OR THE BIBLICAL CAIN? PLEASE TELL ME, I AM SO SORRY!!"
― time is running out to pitch in $5 (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 18:35 (three years ago) link
So the SAT stuff is the big revelation out of this book? Zzzzzzzzzzzzz
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 18:36 (three years ago) link
paid someone to take SAT? that makes him smart
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 18:46 (three years ago) link
the chase is on
ATTENTION: If Donald Trump paid you to take the SATs for him, hit me up on twitter. DMs are open.— Sam Stein (@samstein) July 7, 2020
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 7 July 2020 18:51 (three years ago) link
Oh, this will bring him down for sure. For SURE. FOR SURE.
― Well, that's a fine howdy adieu! (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 19:19 (three years ago) link
it's the worst thing he's ever done
― Wayne Grotski (symsymsym), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 19:32 (three years ago) link
wait are you telling me this guy is a cheat now
― time is running out to pitch in $5 (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 19:40 (three years ago) link
Like, show us some proof that Trump actually took the SATs himself and didn't completely shit the bed in the course of doing so. Now THAT would be news.
― Well, that's a fine howdy adieu! (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 19:50 (three years ago) link
HonorCodeGate
― Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 19:53 (three years ago) link
.@PressSec on Mary Trump's book:"Have yet to see the book, but it is a book of falsehoods."— Aaron Blake (@AaronBlake) July 7, 2020
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 7 July 2020 19:56 (three years ago) link
remember when he floated the idea of having a moat on the southern border of the US filled with alligators and snakes? remember how that didn't put a dent in him?
― Temporary Erogenous Zone (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 20:08 (three years ago) link
"I haven't tasted that pizza yet, but it tastes like absolute ass."
Love when they jump ahead of the damage control without even trying to understand what they are trying to spin.
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 20:12 (three years ago) link
"there is no merit to the story that Donald Trump once took a group of Boy Scouts into the woods to play freeze tag, left them to go out to dinner, then couldn't remember where he left them, and just went home after".
"none of that is mentioned in the book".
"right. because it didn't happen".
― I hear that sometimes Satan wants to defund police (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 22:24 (three years ago) link
https://www.thecrimson.com/article/2020/7/8/harvard-mit-sue-immigration-authorities/
― reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 8 July 2020 15:40 (three years ago) link
For the 1/100th time, the reason we show so many Cases, compared to other countries that haven’t done nearly as well as we have, is that our TESTING is much bigger and better. We have tested 40,000,000 people. If we did 20,000,000 instead, Cases would be half, etc. NOT REPORTED!— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) July 9, 2020
"FOR THE 1/100th TIME"
― Scampidocio (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 9 July 2020 13:14 (three years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYycDyAxgb0
― Lipstick O.G. (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 9 July 2020 13:42 (three years ago) link
Let's just conveniently ignore the thing where a lot of people can't even get approval for a test until/unless they're exhibiting signs of full-blown 'rona.
― Well, that's a fine howdy adieu! (Old Lunch), Thursday, 9 July 2020 13:47 (three years ago) link
this means we have to hear it 100 more times before we even get to hear it a complete first time
― time is running out to pitch in $5 (Karl Malone), Thursday, 9 July 2020 14:35 (three years ago) link
― assert (MatthewK), Friday, 10 July 2020 00:55 (three years ago) link
I've been tuned out for two or three weeks. When I heard him today, it's hard to even describe the sensation--different than what I'd ever felt before.
― clemenza, Friday, 10 July 2020 02:06 (three years ago) link
Why oh why won't the media report this obvious fact that anyone with 2 functioning brain cells could grasp while also realizing it's a fucking idiotic way to look at it, PLEASE TELL ME WHY THEY DON'T
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Friday, 10 July 2020 02:43 (three years ago) link
what does this sentence meanlol that he says doctors were surprised he passed a fucking cognitive test!! Wtf ?
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 10 July 2020 03:21 (three years ago) link
Even if it were true, "the doctors were *very* surprised I passed a cognitive test" is not really the slam dunk the president thinks it is. https://t.co/7hk0LAFxcZ— Kevin M. Kruse (@KevinMKruse) July 10, 2020
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 10 July 2020 03:22 (three years ago) link
Fucking shit we really are in some uncharted territory. I mean this whole shit show is so far beyond like Katrina level failure it’s insane.
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 10 July 2020 03:26 (three years ago) link
yeah, with Katrina, Republicans were abandoning the Bush train and people were eager to sell him out. Katrina was bad, this is basically "is my cat playing Simcity"?
― I hear that sometimes Satan wants to defund police (Neanderthal), Friday, 10 July 2020 03:47 (three years ago) link
a cat playing simcity would be preferable, because although it might occasionally lay on the keys and accidentally trigger a disaster or bulldoze a small district, everything else would pretty run on autopilot, probably resulting in bad traffic and lopsided zoning. instead, trump is like a really, really dumb kid playing simcity, and that is so much worse for the simcitizens
― Karl Malone, Friday, 10 July 2020 04:23 (three years ago) link
“Rarely do people do what you just did.”
― singular wolf erotica producer (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 10 July 2020 04:24 (three years ago) link
Truer words....
this is the one guy screaming "YOU WILL REGRET THIS!" in America's face over and over again
― trapped out the barndo (crüt), Friday, 10 July 2020 04:28 (three years ago) link
lol exactly
he was so right
― Karl Malone, Friday, 10 July 2020 04:45 (three years ago) link
well, we said as the water came to a full boil and the babies began to stop screaming, he DID tell us he was gonna do this
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 10 July 2020 04:53 (three years ago) link
starting to think if there's a god, he's like that weird luminous one from God Told Me To
― I hear that sometimes Satan wants to defund police (Neanderthal), Friday, 10 July 2020 05:01 (three years ago) link
god is the god of job: he will ruin a good man's life just to make a point to the devil
― Karl Malone, Friday, 10 July 2020 05:14 (three years ago) link
motherfucker
― j., Friday, 10 July 2020 05:28 (three years ago) link
Who, god? Or job?
― all cats are beautiful (silby), Friday, 10 July 2020 05:30 (three years ago) link
Job is just God spelled backwards
scene at heaven's gatespeter is checking the guest list
"no.""...motherfucker"
― Karl Malone, Friday, 10 July 2020 05:37 (three years ago) link
Job is just God spelled backwardsthis would be a good tattoo
I just grasped how his lizard brain farted out the "1/100th" thing. 100th=hundredth so you gotta put a 1 in front of it if you mean to say "one hundredth". Wonder if he typed "1 100th" at first but knew that didn't look right.
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Friday, 10 July 2020 06:20 (three years ago) link
I randomly think about "which do you prefer, old or new testament?", "ohh I'd say…equal" and start giggling
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Friday, 10 July 2020 06:24 (three years ago) link
particularly like how he gives it a bit of thought before answering, it's a *real* opinion you see
whoever said his question replies are classic "forgot to prepare my book report" was painfully otm
― assert (MatthewK), Friday, 10 July 2020 08:30 (three years ago) link
The Trump baseball has been reduced from $88 to $87.50.
― calstars, Monday, 13 July 2020 17:58 (three years ago) link
which pretty much confirms it was not a coincidence.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 13 July 2020 18:00 (three years ago) link
TRUMP: I hate being President. You think if I allow 200,000 to die from this thing, they'll vote me out?ADVISER: There's no guarantee. TRUMP: Fuck! How do you lose one of these things?— Dennis Perrin (@DennisThePerrin) July 11, 2020
― brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Monday, 13 July 2020 18:08 (three years ago) link
xp
i still have no idea about the original intent. seems impossible to prove either way, and of course the fact that his top aides are white supremacists means anything they do is pretty suspect.
but them changing the price now confirms nothing. would them keeping the price at $88 confirm that it was a coincidence? if not, then why does changing the price confirm that it was not a coincidence?
― The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Monday, 13 July 2020 18:09 (three years ago) link
Well, at the least it seems to confirm they recognized it was problematic, because why else would they lower it by $.50? My guess, and of course it is only a guess, is some asshole picked that price on purpose, and some lesser degree of asshole caught it and changed it just to avoid the headache. Like, "lol, good one, Stephen Miller, own those libs, but I still think I should change this."
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 13 July 2020 18:35 (three years ago) link
This bit (re: Woolery) is making me think this guy may be kind of a dud.
“I didn’t make a comment,” Trump told Herridge. “I did. I reposted a tweet that a lot of people feel. But all I am doing is making a comment."
I didn't make a comment. I did. All I am doing is making a comment.
To say those three things in a row is... just... boggling. How can anyone keep track of it? The answer is that you can't, and that that is the point. It's chaff. Throw up so many conflicting messages that no one can pin him down, and he can just walk away from any assertion without consequence.
Because once we've isolated and scratched our heads over this bit of nonsense, there will be three more by nightfall.
― the word "restaurateur" doesn't have an n in it (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 16 July 2020 15:17 (three years ago) link
Master of challops
― calstars, Thursday, 16 July 2020 15:20 (three years ago) link
it's very much Rick James on Chappelle. Why would I rub my boots on his couch? That's crazy. But hell yeah, I rubbed my boots on his couch!
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 16 July 2020 15:22 (three years ago) link
Climate change is not real, and it is real but it’s good for agriculture, and also there’s nothing we can do about it. They’ve been rehearsing this bit since I was born
― The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Thursday, 16 July 2020 15:23 (three years ago) link
lmao that this guy wound up on with the job where you'd least want someone who's "just thinking out loud"
― frogbs, Thursday, 16 July 2020 15:32 (three years ago) link
someone who's "just thinking out loud"
― bat ain't Thad (sic), Thursday, 16 July 2020 20:48 (three years ago) link
So shower heads, you take a shower, the water doesn’t come out. You wanna wash your hands, the water doesn’t come out... Dishwashers you didn’t have any water... In most places of the country, water is not a problem. They don’t know what do with it. It’s called rain
― blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Thursday, 16 July 2020 23:38 (three years ago) link
today I tried to open a door and the knob fell off. then I picked up my briefcase and the handle fell off.
i'm afraid to go to the bathroom.
― Lady Antibody (Neanderthal), Thursday, 16 July 2020 23:40 (three years ago) link
Thanks to the dementia or the adderall or whatever it was actually closer to “You want to wash your hands and the watersssssumout”
― Evans on Hammond (evol j), Thursday, 16 July 2020 23:49 (three years ago) link
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/07/trump-wallowing-self-pity/614434/
One senses in Donald Trump no joy, no delight, no laughter. All the emotions that drive him are negative. There is something repugnant about Trump, yes, but there is also something quite sad about the man. He is a damaged soul. In another time, in a different circumstance, there would perhaps be room to pity such a person. But for now, it is best for the pity to wait. There are other things to which to attend. The American public faces one great and morally urgent task above all others between now and November: to do everything in its power to remove from the presidency a self-pitying man who is shattering the nation and doesn’t even care.
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 18:25 (three years ago) link
would you say he's... increasingly isolated?
― trapped out the barndo (crüt), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 18:26 (three years ago) link
Dud, methinks. he looks like an orange cheeto
― Give me a Chad Smith-type feel (map), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 18:32 (three years ago) link
The conservative movement in the 1980s, although hardly flawless, was intellectually serious and politically optimistic. And Reagan himself was a man of personal decency, grace, and class.
― Give me a Chad Smith-type feel (map), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 18:33 (three years ago) link
ideas/
― The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 18:36 (three years ago) link
William Bennett, a man of intellectual seriousness and optimism.
― Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 18:41 (three years ago) link
my cock's on fire
― Ward Fowler, Tuesday, 21 July 2020 18:43 (three years ago) link
― Give me a Chad Smith-type feel (map), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 18:44 (three years ago) link
lol x2
― Sonny Shamrock (Tom D.), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 18:47 (three years ago) link
Reagan is my bad desirewhoa, oh oh my cock's on fire
― The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 19:04 (three years ago) link
There is something repugnant about Trump, yes, but he is such a raging asshole that it is impossible to be sad about the man.
― Orson Well Yeah (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 19:11 (three years ago) link
if you even think about forgiving him in your mind, he'll do something later that day to make in abundantly clear that he deserves zero forgiveness
― The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 19:14 (three years ago) link
I'm not sure about forgiveness, but I would be quite susceptible to pitying Donald Trump as I led him to the cell in which he would spend all the remaining days of his life. Of course, he could have a Bible in his cell, for the spiritual comfort it would provide.
― the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 19:37 (three years ago) link
make sure it has both old and new testaments!
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 19:42 (three years ago) link
i think the trump edition has only two corinthians
― The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 19:44 (three years ago) link
if he hears you said that, he'll have Kayleigh go fetch him a dozen or so more corinthians
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 19:52 (three years ago) link
the very best corinthians
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 19:54 (three years ago) link
*President Trump takes a big bite of steak and is momentarily unable to speak while he chews it*HEADLINE: Trump Strikes A New, More Presidential Tone. But Will It Last?— Alexandra Petri (@petridishes) July 21, 2020
― but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 20:57 (three years ago) link
I don’t know how to embed a YouTube but check Mannie Fresh’s IG. Classic.
― Yelploaf, Thursday, 30 July 2020 04:16 (three years ago) link
Intent on showing off to Abe, Trump sent his aides to bring Basham right up to their table. This happens a lot to performers at Mar-a-Lago: They are asked to stand next to the table and sing his requests. Usually something from Phantom of the Opera or Cats.
https://www.miamiherald.com/article244430777.html
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 1 August 2020 15:52 (three years ago) link
and I'm guessing he corrects them on the lyrics a lot
― XVI Pedicabo eam (Neanderthal), Saturday, 1 August 2020 15:53 (three years ago) link
With the wrong lyrics.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 1 August 2020 16:07 (three years ago) link
If I were the leader of another country at dinner with the president of the United States, and the POTUS hailed over a performer and insisted they sing "Memory," I'd leave the table, tell my staff to pack my bags, and never speak to the POTUS for the rest of his term.
― blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Saturday, 1 August 2020 16:28 (three years ago) link
Donald Trump is boring. pic.twitter.com/dgxaYrQpws— The Good Liars (@TheGoodLiars) August 1, 2020
― Pinche Cumbion Bien Loco (stevie), Saturday, 1 August 2020 22:03 (three years ago) link
this is p good, maybe better than the guy throwing shoes at w
― methinks dababy doth bop shit too much (m bison), Saturday, 1 August 2020 22:10 (three years ago) link
Hah, more of that!
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 1 August 2020 22:10 (three years ago) link
Shoes and heckling.
Like, I hope he gets shit on for the rest of his life.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 1 August 2020 22:15 (three years ago) link
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Saturday, 1 August 2020 22:20 (three years ago) link
That seems just a little bit fake
― sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Saturday, 1 August 2020 22:27 (three years ago) link
i assumed it had to be fake but looks like it's real
One of our Tiktok followers sent us this video of us calling Trump “boring.” pic.twitter.com/JDJ8hzPokz— The Good Liars (@TheGoodLiars) August 1, 2020
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Saturday, 1 August 2020 23:07 (three years ago) link
it's from 2016
― wasdnous (abanana), Saturday, 1 August 2020 23:14 (three years ago) link
Looking forward to their follow-on effort: Bored to Death: USA, Trump and COVID-19.
― the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Sunday, 2 August 2020 00:14 (three years ago) link
Trump, this morning, introducing his Secretary of the Interior: "He loves the Interior."— Annie Karni (@anniekarni) August 4, 2020
― The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 4 August 2020 18:53 (three years ago) link
definitely in character for the guy who gave HUD to his only black friend.
― Evans on Hammond (evol j), Tuesday, 4 August 2020 19:11 (three years ago) link
Re that Interior comment, on Reddit earlier someone pointed out the reason Trumpy kept going on about making windows/clear panes in his stupid wall, which seemed WTF at the time, was because some news headlines had said they "wanted transperancy around the building contracts" and... he took that literally??!
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Tuesday, 4 August 2020 23:05 (three years ago) link
just imagining what he did when he was told he should "get his ducks in a row"
― XVI Pedicabo eam (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 4 August 2020 23:11 (three years ago) link
xpost I thought it was from the Simpsons:
https://www.cartooncuisine.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/Fish-Sandwich-Screenshot.jpg
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 4 August 2020 23:20 (three years ago) link
He's stupider than any person I've ever personally known. Like it isn't even a contest.
― Why does this relates to Yoda? (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 4 August 2020 23:30 (three years ago) link
He is sitting at his desk in the oval office asking where his TAB is.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Wednesday, 5 August 2020 01:02 (three years ago) link
Ok. Who made this? It's genius. pic.twitter.com/EkwG2RlDel— The Lincoln Project (@ProjectLincoln) August 5, 2020
― chonky floof (groovypanda), Wednesday, 5 August 2020 08:26 (three years ago) link
Credit to Justin T Brown, the editor of this amazing clip. https://t.co/YAY2f88MHp— edgarwright (@edgarwright) August 5, 2020
― Steppin' RZA (sic), Wednesday, 5 August 2020 08:39 (three years ago) link
Came here to post that, very funny.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 5 August 2020 14:13 (three years ago) link
https://t.co/56cZJb191r pic.twitter.com/YfobY6Z6s1— Pictures of Nixon (@picturesofnixon) August 10, 2020
― brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 12 August 2020 23:07 (three years ago) link
remembering when potato with an "e" meant your were stupid
― singular wolf erotica producer (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 12 August 2020 23:12 (three years ago) link
YOUR WERE
hee hee
― Steppin' RZA (sic), Wednesday, 12 August 2020 23:16 (three years ago) link
Sorry, but this level of ...whatever this is...classic. Actually burst out laughing at the hairy legs quote fade-in.
pic.twitter.com/36b2xC1GZf— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) August 13, 2020
― caută tu singur (gyac), Thursday, 13 August 2020 05:41 (three years ago) link
serious Xavier Renegade Angel vibes going on there
― unpaid intern at the darvo institute (Simon H.), Thursday, 13 August 2020 06:34 (three years ago) link
damn, that ad is good
― anvil, Thursday, 13 August 2020 07:27 (three years ago) link
bidet rain
― No mean feat. DaBaby (breastcrawl), Thursday, 13 August 2020 17:59 (three years ago) link
so is DT supposed to be channeling Eddy Grant here or is it Joe B who’s rocking down to Electric Avenue?
― No mean feat. DaBaby (breastcrawl), Thursday, 13 August 2020 18:03 (three years ago) link
Serious question btw – the opening lines are obviously there for a reason:Down in the street there is violence / And-a lots of work to be doneI mean, this is a cool song and it bangs, so you would want to claim it for yourself and not give it away to your opponent, would you? But if Trump is the one who will get to work and fix it, he’s also implicitly endorsing this part:Who is to blame in one country / Never can get to the oneDealin' in multiplication / And they still can't feed everyone
Or is “Electric Avenue” supposed to be soundtracking the evil protesters, and is Sleepy Joe pathetically slow to respond, unlike that unstoppable Trump/Pence “KAG” (wtf?) train? But again, this is a cool song and it bangs...
(The answer could of course simply be that they think it sounds clunky and dorky, but they would be wrong)
― No mean feat. DaBaby (breastcrawl), Thursday, 13 August 2020 20:26 (three years ago) link
Because you can't say "Cohen" (phonetically) without "ew:"
👀"From golden showers in a sex club in Vegas, to tax fraud, to deals with corrupt officials from the former Soviet Union, to catch and kill conspiracies to silence Trump’s clandestine lovers, I wasn’t just a witness to the president’s rise—I was an active and eager participant." https://t.co/LdKBeBxHMf— Natasha Bertrand (@NatashaBertrand) August 13, 2020
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 13 August 2020 20:31 (three years ago) link
Eager for Piss
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 13 August 2020 20:35 (three years ago) link
damn, that's from the foreword. i guess it's time to learn more about trump's penis
― The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Thursday, 13 August 2020 20:43 (three years ago) link
“You’re family,” Trump said to my son and I.
so I guess this hasn't been given an edit yet
― singular wolf erotica producer (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 13 August 2020 20:45 (three years ago) link
i will leave it to some poor political reporter to sift through that and deliver the newsworthy items to me, because i cannot read any more of that prose style
― The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Thursday, 13 August 2020 20:46 (three years ago) link
― No mean feat. DaBaby (breastcrawl), Thursday, August 13, 2020 1:59 PM bookmarkflaglink
never meant to cause u any leakagenever meant to cause u any pain
― popeye's arse (Neanderthal), Thursday, 13 August 2020 23:12 (three years ago) link
Jesus that's dark
― blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Friday, 14 August 2020 01:19 (three years ago) link
still not a word from him about the fact that his brother died today
― frogbs, Sunday, 16 August 2020 03:04 (three years ago) link
he released a statement
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 16 August 2020 03:13 (three years ago) link
"I never met my brother"
― popeye's arse (Neanderthal), Sunday, 16 August 2020 03:14 (three years ago) link
uncharacteristic"It is with heavy heart I share that my wonderful brother, Robert, peacefully passed away tonight. He was not just my brother, he was my best friend. He will be greatly missed, but we will meet again. His memory will live on in my heart forever. Robert, I love you. Rest in peace," the President said.
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 16 August 2020 03:20 (three years ago) link
oh I didn't see that. not written by him obviously
― frogbs, Sunday, 16 August 2020 03:21 (three years ago) link
― solo scampito (mh), Sunday, 16 August 2020 03:28 (three years ago) link
by the way very curious they aren't revealing the cause of death given that everyone's gonna assume it was you-know-what
― frogbs, Sunday, 16 August 2020 03:33 (three years ago) link
Truly beautiful that he considers his best friend to be his brother who I didn’t even know existed until yesterday and who I’ve never heard him mention once.
― Evans on Hammond (evol j), Sunday, 16 August 2020 03:37 (three years ago) link
xpost it's ok, he'll just issue an Executive Order banning coronavirus
― popeye's arse (Neanderthal), Sunday, 16 August 2020 03:37 (three years ago) link
if it were a simple case of masturbatory self-asphyxiation leading to massive brain damage they'd have released the details by now.
― the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Sunday, 16 August 2020 03:39 (three years ago) link
he honored him by golfing with an NFL kicker today
― frogbs, Sunday, 16 August 2020 03:40 (three years ago) link
Imagine Trump having a friend.
― Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Sunday, 16 August 2020 03:41 (three years ago) link
hopefully they meet again soon.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 16 August 2020 03:57 (three years ago) link
yeesh this is brutal
Melania - once again - wanting nothing to do with Trump’s small hands... pic.twitter.com/kjf7rv1EFC— Rex Chapman🏇🏼 (@RexChapman) August 17, 2020
― frogbs, Monday, 17 August 2020 02:55 (three years ago) link
i mean, she knows just as we do that she could do a lot better
― treeship., Monday, 17 August 2020 07:27 (three years ago) link
Calls into Fox & Friends; is asked about his dead brother...
Trump praises his late brother Robert for his lack of "jealousy" of him. Whether he "had the number one show," a great real estate deal or was becoming president, Trump says, Robert didn't show the jealousy that sometimes exists in families.— Daniel Dale (@ddale8) August 17, 2020
― but also fuck you (unperson), Monday, 17 August 2020 12:31 (three years ago) link
Perfectly normal when discussing a recently-deceased relative to extemporate at length about how chill they were re: your own awesomeness.
― Ask yoreself: are you're standards too high? (Old Lunch), Monday, 17 August 2020 13:07 (three years ago) link
i wonder when trump will start getting jealous of his brother
― turn the jawhatthefuckever on (One Eye Open), Monday, 17 August 2020 13:12 (three years ago) link
honestly when he does stuff like this i think he's extremely funny.
― treeship., Monday, 17 August 2020 13:26 (three years ago) link
xpost Well, his brother getting press atm (and consequently drawing attention that is rightfully Donald's) so it's just a matter of time before he drops an insulting tweet or three about Lazy Rob.
― Ask yoreself: are you're standards too high? (Old Lunch), Monday, 17 August 2020 13:27 (three years ago) link
"He never had a boat parade..."
― "...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 17 August 2020 13:28 (three years ago) link
I prefer the brothers who don't die
― all we are is durst in the wind (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 17 August 2020 13:51 (three years ago) link
tweet before that one is great too: "He was my friend. And I guess they say 'best friend.' And that's true,"
― turn the jawhatthefuckever on (One Eye Open), Monday, 17 August 2020 13:55 (three years ago) link
Hell, let's just say "only friend." Because he was my brother and he had no choice. Plus, us assholes got to stick together. Family! Sad!
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 17 August 2020 13:59 (three years ago) link
Even saying something as simple as "my brother was my best friend", god forbid he not frame it as something where he is in agreement with a widely-held consensus opinion. Its like has to constantly remind himself out loud that nothing he says or thinks is unusual.
― turn the jawhatthefuckever on (One Eye Open), Monday, 17 August 2020 14:02 (three years ago) link
looking back, it's amazing that he was able to fake any interest at all in other people's fortunes during the campaign. or it is amazing that enough voters thought he gave a shit about anything other than self-promotion.
― tobo73, Monday, 17 August 2020 14:04 (three years ago) link
xp to myself: ...or he could just be so unfamiliar with the concept of a friend that the terminology still feels new to him. "When I hear people talking about friends, I notice they often seem to use the term 'best friend'. And what I guess that term means, it seems to apply to me and my brother."
― turn the jawhatthefuckever on (One Eye Open), Monday, 17 August 2020 14:07 (three years ago) link
― calstars, Monday, 17 August 2020 14:14 (three years ago) link
it does feel like a comedy bit. he takes self-centeredness so far beyond any other person i've seen.
― treeship., Monday, 17 August 2020 14:16 (three years ago) link
They should totally give him his own reality show.
― Ask yoreself: are you're standards too high? (Old Lunch), Monday, 17 August 2020 14:41 (three years ago) link
The thing I find most hilarious about this human black hole is watching human civilization get sucked into his inescapable gravity well and obliterated. It's sick, brah.
― Ask yoreself: are you're standards too high? (Old Lunch), Monday, 17 August 2020 14:42 (three years ago) link
he had his own reality show for years
― treeship., Monday, 17 August 2020 14:45 (three years ago) link
it was called "the fire man" i think. he fired people and american viewers rejoiced in the humiliation of unemployment.
i remember his famous catchphrase "you have become fired"
― turn the jawhatthefuckever on (One Eye Open), Monday, 17 August 2020 14:49 (three years ago) link
https://www.ocregister.com/wp-content/uploads/migration/l0v/l0vuax-l0vtw5guyfieriphoto1white.jpg?w=535
his hairstyle was way better back then
― treeship., Monday, 17 August 2020 14:51 (three years ago) link
Josh I'm very confused about how you say Cohen, phonetically or not
― change display name (Jordan), Monday, 17 August 2020 15:01 (three years ago) link
Jordan, you dolt. It's cue-an. Q Anon. Michael Cohen is Q! the jailing was just a cover story for what he is actually doing--hunting pedophiles at trump's behest. a one-man army.
― treeship., Monday, 17 August 2020 15:02 (three years ago) link
Donald's thoughts on his dead brother, in full (as someone who transcribes interviews a lot, I can only imagine how many times the transcriber had to re-listen to this flood of mouth-diarrhea; no wonder the NY Times so frequently opts for "[indecipherable]" when posting Q&As with him):
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EfoTGrdWkAwk17m.jpg
― but also fuck you (unperson), Monday, 17 August 2020 15:04 (three years ago) link
lol xp
― change display name (Jordan), Monday, 17 August 2020 15:06 (three years ago) link
Not to state the obvious but it's clear that Trump has never felt empathy for another human being in his entire miserable life.
― healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Monday, 17 August 2020 15:08 (three years ago) link
So fucking bizarre how QAnon has now spread to the rest of the world. I fail to see its 'value' for non-Americans (except perhaps for Canadians, because living vicariously through the US is the closest thing we have to an identity, or so I tell myself in my more despondent moods).
― pomenitul, Monday, 17 August 2020 15:11 (three years ago) link
xposts Weird that Trump recited a passage from Naked Lunch to eulogize his brother but whatever floats your boat, I guess.
― Ask yoreself: are you're standards too high? (Old Lunch), Monday, 17 August 2020 15:13 (three years ago) link
"well we did interact" is a normal way to describe a relationship with your sibling
― contorted filbert (harbl), Monday, 17 August 2020 15:14 (three years ago) link
I didn’t know it had spread. But conspiracies that the world is secretly run by an elite group who partake in depraved rituals is a trope that never really goes away. Usually it’s explicitly antisemitic—I don’t know to what degree this is true of Q Anon.
― treeship., Monday, 17 August 2020 15:14 (three years ago) link
― treeship., Monday, 17 August 2020 15:15 (three years ago) link
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/aug/11/qanon-facebook-groups-growing-conspiracy-theory
These newer groups and pages also demonstrate the spread of QAnon around the world. They include groups dedicated to QAnon followers in the United Kingdom, Northern Ireland, Canada, Australia, Mexico, Brazil, Germany, Poland, the Netherlands, Bulgaria, Hungary, the Czech Republic, Romania, Serbia and Slovenia. The largest international QAnon groups documented by the Guardian were German, Italian, Polish, Dutch, Australian and British.
― pomenitul, Monday, 17 August 2020 15:16 (three years ago) link
all the great countries love QAnon, ladies and gentlemen
― contorted filbert (harbl), Monday, 17 August 2020 15:17 (three years ago) link
I like the subtle implication that Northern Ireland isn't really part of the UK.
― pomenitul, Monday, 17 August 2020 15:18 (three years ago) link
Yeah well America has also exported hip hop and coca-cola—a lot of cool stuff. They can’t all be winners.
― treeship., Monday, 17 August 2020 15:18 (three years ago) link
His fluency in oral cut-up is without peer. Truly the most avant pop performance artist since Kenneth Goldsmith.
― pomenitul, Monday, 17 August 2020 15:19 (three years ago) link
I should have specified, without the "e" sound and without the "w" sound. coWEn.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 17 August 2020 15:34 (three years ago) link
lol. A grosser person than I would intersperse that run on sentence of a paragraph with pornography a la "American Psycho."
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 17 August 2020 15:36 (three years ago) link
Gov Walz says as President prepares to visit Walz’s hometown of Mankato, MN says he “spent this weekend trying to tell the White House why it was a really bad idea to have Pres Trump go down and stand at the George Floyd memorial and use as a backdrop” #tptalmanac @tpt @NewsHour pic.twitter.com/eXEqo3ZrkQ— Mary Lahammer (@mlahammer) August 17, 2020
― Get the point? Good, let's dance with nunchaku. (Eric H.), Monday, 17 August 2020 15:40 (three years ago) link
So it's definitely going to happen, then.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 17 August 2020 15:45 (three years ago) link
maybe it would help if trump holds up an anti-racism book that belongs to someone else, while he speaks
― The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Monday, 17 August 2020 15:49 (three years ago) link
Holy shit, out of nowhere I suddenly had the strangest epiphany: "covfefe" was him channeling a message from the future! He was actually trying to say "covid" but it got garbled in the process. Trump tried to warn us!https://i.insider.com/4f3ad6d16bb3f78a15000015?width=750&format=jpeg&auto=webp
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 17 August 2020 15:50 (three years ago) link
I for one encourage Donald Trump to make more ill-advised trips to places where lots of angry people despise him. Like daily, if possible.
― Ask yoreself: are you're standards too high? (Old Lunch), Monday, 17 August 2020 15:54 (three years ago) link
I assume that's already true of every place he goes.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 17 August 2020 15:57 (three years ago) link
so did his brother die of covid or what?
― Pinche Cumbion Bien Loco (stevie), Monday, 17 August 2020 20:32 (three years ago) link
I've been camping
Maybe, maybe not.
― pomenitul, Monday, 17 August 2020 20:33 (three years ago) link
His brother had taken a fall earlier in the year and suffered some cerebral bleeding and never recovered.
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Monday, 17 August 2020 20:39 (three years ago) link
And is there any chance that condition is hereditary
― Ask yoreself: are you're standards too high? (Old Lunch), Monday, 17 August 2020 22:17 (three years ago) link
DJT has had lots of mysterious bruises in the last year, Robert was released from neurological intensive care into Charles Harder's custody to act as a stalking horse for Donald's lawsuit against Mary, and their father died with dementia.
― healthy butts on perfect cocaine (sic), Monday, 17 August 2020 22:31 (three years ago) link
So DJTJR seemed p oked up on the telly box last night eh?
― Pinche Cumbion Bien Loco (stevie), Tuesday, 18 August 2020 12:36 (three years ago) link
https://i0.wp.com/toughguydigest.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/ellis-doing-blow.jpg
― Ask yoreself: are you're standards too high? (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 18 August 2020 13:25 (three years ago) link
Oh god, how much cocaine did he do before this interview pic.twitter.com/SevcI7TDJJ— Acyn Torabi (@Acyn) August 18, 2020
― peace, man, Tuesday, 18 August 2020 13:47 (three years ago) link
DJTJ looks a few bumps away from having A Michael Mann moment.
― "...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 18 August 2020 13:51 (three years ago) link
his dad?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJFyz73MRcg
― Stevolende, Tuesday, 18 August 2020 14:31 (three years ago) link
Eh, all those TV outrage factory situations seem to espouse the George Lucas direction of "faster!" or "more intense!"
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 18 August 2020 14:34 (three years ago) link
the rage-o-meter is only 90% full, get angrier!!!
― The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 18 August 2020 14:38 (three years ago) link
"sir, our indicators show that the home audience's rage has dipped, it's dropped...it's..."
"just give me the news straight, i can take it"
"...the home audience's rage has dipped below...90%. i'm so sorry"
"god damn. god DAMN"
― The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 18 August 2020 14:40 (three years ago) link
get me some fresh caravan footage, i need it yesterday
― The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 18 August 2020 14:41 (three years ago) link
Historians: Is there a precedent for any sitting president's child(ren) to be so annoyingly involved in their parents' reelection campaign?
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 18 August 2020 15:46 (three years ago) link
The standard Trumper line of defense here is that "everyone else in government is either useless or out to get him; these are people he knows he can trust."
― all we are is durst in the wind (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 18 August 2020 16:23 (three years ago) link
These are people i wish he'd flushed
― muntjac wagner (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 18 August 2020 16:49 (three years ago) link
another addition to the "nuh uh, YOU are. all of what you said, only, about YOU" collection:
“We’re going to have an election that is all about the survival of the nation,” Trump told a crowd that had gathered inside an airport hangar south of Minneapolis for a scaled-down version of one of his signature rallies.“Joe Biden is the puppet of left-wing extremists trying to erase our borders, eliminate our police, indoctrinate our children, vilify our heroes, take away our energy,” Trump added, claiming Biden was looking to “replace American freedom with left-wing fascism.””Fascists,” he said. “They are fascists.”
“Joe Biden is the puppet of left-wing extremists trying to erase our borders, eliminate our police, indoctrinate our children, vilify our heroes, take away our energy,” Trump added, claiming Biden was looking to “replace American freedom with left-wing fascism.””Fascists,” he said. “They are fascists.”
― The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 18 August 2020 23:59 (three years ago) link
I just got a text from a marketing firm asking if I'm voting for Donald Trump. Ignore? Because I really want to send a fuuuuuuuck no! screed.
― Orson Well Yeah (Dan Peterson), Thursday, 20 August 2020 18:51 (three years ago) link
such bait usually has a hook enclosed in it
― the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Thursday, 20 August 2020 18:52 (three years ago) link
My view on that kind of thing is that I'm not going to take the chance of providing the Trump campaign with more information with which to target their campaigning/advertising/etc.
― trunk's full of pearl and lonestar (PBKR), Thursday, 20 August 2020 19:02 (three years ago) link
Just got one of those as well. Deleted.
― Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Thursday, 20 August 2020 19:11 (three years ago) link
Yeah, on second thought I'll just channel my rage elsewhere.
― Orson Well Yeah (Dan Peterson), Thursday, 20 August 2020 19:22 (three years ago) link
give them nothing
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 20 August 2020 19:40 (three years ago) link
Trump advanced the false claim that the Democratic National Convention removed the word “God” from the Pledge of Allegiance.“The Democrats took the word GOD out of the Pledge of Allegiance at the Democrat National Convention,” the president tweeted on Saturday morning. “At first I thought they made a mistake, but it wasn’t. It was done on purpose. Remember Evangelical Christians, and ALL, this is where they are coming from-it’s done. Vote Nov 3!”The claim isn’t true. During the prime-time, televised events, DNC attendees recited the full Pledge of Allegiance, including the phrase “one nation under God.” What is true is that a few participants during breakout caucus meetings omitted the line when saying the pledge, but it was not widespread.
“The Democrats took the word GOD out of the Pledge of Allegiance at the Democrat National Convention,” the president tweeted on Saturday morning. “At first I thought they made a mistake, but it wasn’t. It was done on purpose. Remember Evangelical Christians, and ALL, this is where they are coming from-it’s done. Vote Nov 3!”
The claim isn’t true. During the prime-time, televised events, DNC attendees recited the full Pledge of Allegiance, including the phrase “one nation under God.” What is true is that a few participants during breakout caucus meetings omitted the line when saying the pledge, but it was not widespread.
discourse in 2020: no, they did NOT take "under god" out of it, but you know what, it would be fine even if they did. but they didn't! and fuck you! fuck
― The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Saturday, 22 August 2020 16:55 (three years ago) link
However, Republicans can proudly claim to have inserted the words "under God" into the pledge. They did it during the Eisenhower administration. The pledge originated decades earlier and contained no such phrase. They also inserted "In God We Trust" onto the coinage, so as to cock a snook at those godless commies.
― the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Saturday, 22 August 2020 17:04 (three years ago) link
isn't it better to text back saying you will vote for him, maybe waste some of their time + give them bad data?
― unpaid intern at the darvo institute (Simon H.), Saturday, 22 August 2020 17:07 (three years ago) link
"a lot of my friends here in manhattan and brooklyn are hopping on the trump train. i honestly think he can take new york if he diverts the bulk of his budget to these neighborhoods: the lower east side, williamsburg, bushwick, greenpoint."
― treeship., Saturday, 22 August 2020 19:16 (three years ago) link
Surprised to see no one mention that a judge decided Trump needed to pay Stormy Daniels' legal fees.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 22 August 2020 19:37 (three years ago) link
...and this too:
NEWS: I got a tip that someone in town for Robert Trump's White House funeral punched a server tonight at D.C.'s Fig & Olive restaurant. I called and an employee there confirmed it: "Somebody blindsided one of my servers. Clocked him right in the nose."— Geoff Bennett (@GeoffRBennett) August 22, 2020
I'm told some in the group were still carrying funeral programs. The "unruly" group lashed out when the restaurant couldn't accommodate their large party. Employee: "It’s a pandemic, doing the best we can. Totally uncalled for." Employee says no "high-profile" Trump was involved.— Geoff Bennett (@GeoffRBennett) August 22, 2020
So...it was Tiffany?
― "...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 22 August 2020 22:14 (three years ago) link
it was Robert. after you die sometimes stiff appendages will reflex due to pooling of blood
they wanted to give him one last dinner with the crew before throwing his body into the ocean, but these libcucks couldn't accommmodate their party
― muntjac wagner (Neanderthal), Saturday, 22 August 2020 22:35 (three years ago) link
The pledge originated decades earlier and contained no such phrase
Yes and the pledge also was supposed to be accompanied by a salute that looks a trifle problematic in retrospect:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/73/Students_pledging_allegiance_to_the_American_flag_with_the_Bellamy_salute.jpg
― all we are is durst in the wind (Ye Mad Puffin), Sunday, 23 August 2020 02:51 (three years ago) link
yeah, though tbf, it originated in the late 19th century, and then fell out of favor for pretty much the obvious reasons
― muntjac wagner (Neanderthal), Sunday, 23 August 2020 02:58 (three years ago) link
pledges of allegiance are fucked up anyway tbh.
let's replace them with an ode to pizza
We had to pledge allegiance to the US, then to Texas then sing a goddamned song about Texas
― Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Sunday, 23 August 2020 03:05 (three years ago) link
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/maryanne-trump-barry-secret-recordings/2020/08/22/30d457f4-e334-11ea-ade1-28daf1a5e919_story.html
Maryanne Trump Barry was serving as a federal judge when she heard her brother, President Trump, suggest on Fox News, “maybe I’ll have to put her at the border” amid a wave of refugees entering the United States. At the time, children were being separated from their parents and put in cramped quarters while court hearings dragged on.“All he wants to do is appeal to his base,” Barry said in a conversation secretly recorded by her niece, Mary L. Trump. “He has no principles. None. None. And his base, I mean my God, if you were a religious person, you want to help people. Not do this.”Barry, 83, was aghast at how her 74-year-old brother operated as president. “His goddamned tweet and lying, oh my God,” she said. “I’m talking too freely, but you know. The change of stories. The lack of preparation. The lying. Holy shit.”Maryanne Trump Barry: ‘I’m talking too freely’Lamenting “what they’re doing with kids at the border,” she guessed her brother “hasn’t read my immigration opinions” in court cases. In one case, she berated a judge for failing to treat an asylum applicant respectfully.“What has he read?” Mary Trump asked her aunt.“No. He doesn’t read,” Barry responded.In the weeks since Mary Trump’s tell-all book about her uncle has been released, she’s been questioned about the source of some of the information, such as her allegation that Trump paid a friend to take his SATs to enable him to transfer into the University of Pennsylvania. Nowhere in the book does she say that she recorded conversations with her aunt.In response to a question from The Washington Post about how she knew the president paid someone to take the SATs, Mary Trump revealed that she had surreptitiously taped 15 hours of face-to-face conversations with Barry in 2018 and 2019. She provided The Post with previously unreleased transcripts and audio excerpts, which include exchanges that are not in her book.Barry has never spoken publicly about disagreements with the president, and her extraordinarily candid comments in the recordings mark the most critical comments known to have been made about him by one of his siblings. No one else in the family except Mary Trump has publicly rebuked the president.The transcripts reveal the depths of discord between the president and his sister, illuminating a rift that began when she asked her brother for a favor in the 1980s, which Trump has frequently used to try to take credit for her success.At one point Barry said to her niece, “It’s the phoniness of it all. It’s the phoniness and this cruelty. Donald is cruel.”Mary Trump, 55, told The Post recently that her uncle is unfit to be president and she plans to do “everything in my power” to elect Joe Biden. Her father, Fred Trump Jr., died of an alcohol-related illness when she was 16 in 1981. In her book, she says Donald Trump and his father mistreated her father.The Post sought comment about the tapes from Barry and White House officials on Friday and Saturday and did not receive a response. After this story posted online Saturday night, the White House issued this statement from the president that said in full: “Every day it’s something else, who cares. I miss my brother, and I’ll continue to work hard for the American people. Not everyone agrees, but the results are obvious. Our country will soon be stronger than ever before!”
“All he wants to do is appeal to his base,” Barry said in a conversation secretly recorded by her niece, Mary L. Trump. “He has no principles. None. None. And his base, I mean my God, if you were a religious person, you want to help people. Not do this.”
Barry, 83, was aghast at how her 74-year-old brother operated as president. “His goddamned tweet and lying, oh my God,” she said. “I’m talking too freely, but you know. The change of stories. The lack of preparation. The lying. Holy shit.”
Maryanne Trump Barry: ‘I’m talking too freely’
Lamenting “what they’re doing with kids at the border,” she guessed her brother “hasn’t read my immigration opinions” in court cases. In one case, she berated a judge for failing to treat an asylum applicant respectfully.
“What has he read?” Mary Trump asked her aunt.“No. He doesn’t read,” Barry responded.
In the weeks since Mary Trump’s tell-all book about her uncle has been released, she’s been questioned about the source of some of the information, such as her allegation that Trump paid a friend to take his SATs to enable him to transfer into the University of Pennsylvania. Nowhere in the book does she say that she recorded conversations with her aunt.
In response to a question from The Washington Post about how she knew the president paid someone to take the SATs, Mary Trump revealed that she had surreptitiously taped 15 hours of face-to-face conversations with Barry in 2018 and 2019. She provided The Post with previously unreleased transcripts and audio excerpts, which include exchanges that are not in her book.
Barry has never spoken publicly about disagreements with the president, and her extraordinarily candid comments in the recordings mark the most critical comments known to have been made about him by one of his siblings. No one else in the family except Mary Trump has publicly rebuked the president.
The transcripts reveal the depths of discord between the president and his sister, illuminating a rift that began when she asked her brother for a favor in the 1980s, which Trump has frequently used to try to take credit for her success.
At one point Barry said to her niece, “It’s the phoniness of it all. It’s the phoniness and this cruelty. Donald is cruel.”
Mary Trump, 55, told The Post recently that her uncle is unfit to be president and she plans to do “everything in my power” to elect Joe Biden. Her father, Fred Trump Jr., died of an alcohol-related illness when she was 16 in 1981. In her book, she says Donald Trump and his father mistreated her father.
The Post sought comment about the tapes from Barry and White House officials on Friday and Saturday and did not receive a response. After this story posted online Saturday night, the White House issued this statement from the president that said in full: “Every day it’s something else, who cares. I miss my brother, and I’ll continue to work hard for the American people. Not everyone agrees, but the results are obvious. Our country will soon be stronger than ever before!”
And so on.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 23 August 2020 03:10 (three years ago) link
“Every day it’s something else, who cares.”This guy just straight barfs thread titles
― syphilitic wolf prose errata (Hadrian VIII), Sunday, 23 August 2020 03:19 (three years ago) link
lmao
Not that this ultimately means anything, but that is some cold-blooded family shit.
― trunk's full of pearl and lonestar (PBKR), Sunday, 23 August 2020 04:03 (three years ago) link
slight whiff of the omen about this new twitter account, which may mean it's realTake a look at Barron Trump (@BallerBarron): https://twitter.com/BallerBarron
― Anti-Cop Ponceortium (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Sunday, 23 August 2020 07:07 (three years ago) link
he's either going to be in an asylum or managing a Shake Shack in 20 years
― muntjac wagner (Neanderthal), Sunday, 23 August 2020 07:11 (three years ago) link
poor kid
I have a feeling from reading this that he's going to be just an asshole, quite possibly a very successful asshole
― Anti-Cop Ponceortium (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Sunday, 23 August 2020 07:17 (three years ago) link
he will change his last name in less than 10 years
― muntjac wagner (Neanderthal), Sunday, 23 August 2020 07:18 (three years ago) link
it's to be hoped that the trump name will be tainted forever, of course, but...
― Anti-Cop Ponceortium (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Sunday, 23 August 2020 07:21 (three years ago) link
I asked my dad why people hate him. He said “Barron, when it comes to politics, that’s just the art of the deal.”what?
― brimstead, Sunday, 23 August 2020 07:32 (three years ago) link
I've beginning to think that he thinks that book is his dad
― muntjac wagner (Neanderthal), Sunday, 23 August 2020 07:34 (three years ago) link
Which is the direction of fit is Barron trump named after a fictitious personal his dad used to lie to the media or is the fictitious persons named after the son of the liar.& has it had any psychological impact on the poor lad. Or is it just one of a load of factors he's having to overcome.
I mean sympathy where sympathy's due so not sure in this case.
― Stevolende, Sunday, 23 August 2020 07:52 (three years ago) link
Persona got autocorrected twice there.
― Stevolende, Sunday, 23 August 2020 07:53 (three years ago) link
you don't actually think that Twitter account is real, do you?
― Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Sunday, 23 August 2020 08:00 (three years ago) link
obviously it isn't actually him writing it. but the photo is real, and these apples do not fall far from this tree, if he really were writing it it would likely be no better.
― Anti-Cop Ponceortium (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Sunday, 23 August 2020 08:07 (three years ago) link
I can't wrap my head around how reading someone LARPing as a child who's never spoken out loud in public is giving you any kind of read on the actual child's personality or future. He might be a dick! Or he might hate his father so much he becomes a good person. He's a child.
― Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Sunday, 23 August 2020 08:09 (three years ago) link
i can't wrap my head around how you think obvious joek posts made at 3 am were real prognostications of Barron Trump's future.
― muntjac wagner (Neanderthal), Sunday, 23 August 2020 08:15 (three years ago) link
Because he said they’re not joke posts?
― Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Sunday, 23 August 2020 08:16 (three years ago) link
I'm assuming the account has been set up ahead of him speaking at the RNC, not as a 3am prank
― Anti-Cop Ponceortium (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Sunday, 23 August 2020 08:17 (three years ago) link
So I tutor this kid who talks to Barron sometimes on Twitch. Apparently, he is planning a secret speech for the RNC, in which he’s going to excoriate his father’s handling of the crisis, his general lack of character, and the disfiguring effects of capitalist society on the human psyche—the real monster, the one that produced his father. As they haul him away he is going to shout “Medicare for all!”
This is real, guys.
― treeship., Sunday, 23 August 2020 13:01 (three years ago) link
Given that iirc none of the other Trump kids had a reputation for being total, complete, all-encompassing right-wing assholes before Alpha Asshole became president, but once he got elected they immediately seemed to step up - even Tiffany is speaking at the RNC - I'd say it's far more likely Barron Von Trump follows suit than goes the Ron Reagan Jr. route. But really, who cares. Fuck him and his whole family.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 23 August 2020 13:08 (three years ago) link
I mean, he’s just a kid, idk. He’s not complicit the way the others are, Tiffany included.
― treeship., Sunday, 23 August 2020 13:14 (three years ago) link
That's absolutely true. But point being that all of his kids were once just kids, too, and yet apparently they all turned out to be total assholes. As is Asshole's wife, as is his son in law. That can't be a coincidence, but you never know!
Anyway, hilarious that they're pretty much all speaking at the RNC. I'd say they locked in the Trump vote, but between Mary and Trump's sister, they've fallen short on that front, too.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 23 August 2020 13:19 (three years ago) link
his mom literally gave him caviar rubs after his baths until he was at least 7, I'm sure he'll be the first in his family to magically find a moral compass
― syphilitic wolf prose errata (Hadrian VIII), Sunday, 23 August 2020 13:27 (three years ago) link
That's just how they do it in Latveria.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 23 August 2020 13:43 (three years ago) link
Maryanne said on another occasion that her brother kept asking about Fox News. One day, Barry said, the president called her and said, “Did you watch Fox News?”Maryanne Trump Barry tells President Trump she doesn’t watch Fox News“No,” Barry said she told the president.“Why not?” he said.“I don’t watch much television at all,” Barry said she responded.“What do you do?” the president asked.“I read,” Barry replied.“What do you read?” the president said.“Books,” Barry said.The president was incredulous. “You don’t watch Fox?”
Maryanne Trump Barry tells President Trump she doesn’t watch Fox News
“No,” Barry said she told the president.
“Why not?” he said.
“I don’t watch much television at all,” Barry said she responded.
“What do you do?” the president asked.
“I read,” Barry replied.
“What do you read?” the president said.
“Books,” Barry said.
The president was incredulous. “You don’t watch Fox?”
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 23 August 2020 14:38 (three years ago) link
that's what i heard, too
― The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Sunday, 23 August 2020 15:20 (three years ago) link
I won't believe it's real until people start talking pandas.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 23 August 2020 15:21 (three years ago) link
You haven't been following TechWorldNews, I see: Washington DC Zoo Working on App that Lets Humans Talk to Pandas.
― the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Sunday, 23 August 2020 18:56 (three years ago) link
That's just silly, anyone can talk to a Panda.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 23 August 2020 18:58 (three years ago) link
Barry say hi to me
― syphilitic wolf prose errata (Hadrian VIII), Sunday, 23 August 2020 19:02 (three years ago) link
anyone can talk to a Panda.
that's like saying anyone can talk to Beyoncé -- except first you need a backstage pass. And no one gets a backstage pass.
― the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Sunday, 23 August 2020 19:34 (three years ago) link
I bet she would give it to a talking panda in a heartbeat. She wouldn't even ask what it was doing there, she would be all, you, talking panda, we're going to hang. I bet she even has bamboo on her rider.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 23 August 2020 19:40 (three years ago) link
I bet she gets to beta test the app and I bet it was the panda who requested that.
― the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Sunday, 23 August 2020 19:43 (three years ago) link
The panda is all, psh, I spend all this time learning to understand human, and it turns out these fucking humans are too lazy to learn panda. I'd throw money at the problem myself if I had any thumbs, so I'll just get my girl Beyonce on it.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 23 August 2020 19:45 (three years ago) link
And yes, I know pandas have sort of fake thumbs, and no, you can't use Panda Thumbs as your stupid band names.
Actually, you totally can, Panda Thumbs is a great band name.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 23 August 2020 19:46 (three years ago) link
Latest in the Trump tax return fight: The 2nd Circuit denied Trump's request for an immediate stay while he takes the case up on appeal again. The court will hear args on the stay issue on 9/1 instead. NY DA's office agreed to give Trump until 8/28, so... pic.twitter.com/NtQ9h56z1u— Zoe Tillman (@ZoeTillman) August 24, 2020
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 24 August 2020 13:32 (three years ago) link
lots of speculative posts about the inner life of a child itt. very cool!
― unpaid intern at the darvo institute (Simon H.), Monday, 24 August 2020 13:37 (three years ago) link
(cont'd) ...Trump could try to petition the 2nd Circuit to reconsider en banc, or ask SCOTUS to step in. Absent a stay, the district court in its latest decision gave the DA's office the green light to enforce the grand jury subpoena for years of Trump's tax returns.— Zoe Tillman (@ZoeTillman) August 24, 2020
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 24 August 2020 13:44 (three years ago) link
When President Trump mentioned Obama, someone from the crowd shouted, “Monkey!” and the president relished in it.Disgusting. Do you approve of this @ThomTillis? pic.twitter.com/vOxAmRJByZ— The Lincoln Project (@ProjectLincoln) August 24, 2020
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Monday, 24 August 2020 17:42 (three years ago) link
Bit rich coming from Rick Wilson & Cohttps://www.dailydot.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/Screen-Shot-2020-07-09-at-9.53.57-AM.jpg
― Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Monday, 24 August 2020 17:49 (three years ago) link
well yeah is anyone under any delusions regarding these guys?
i just posted for the video
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Monday, 24 August 2020 17:54 (three years ago) link
Since there's no Melania thread:
https://www.theweek.com/speedreads/933226/melania-trump-reportedly-taped-making-disparaging-remarks-about-president-children
― pomentiful (pomenitul), Monday, 24 August 2020 18:51 (three years ago) link
“Always wants me to pee on him, what the fuck?!”
― Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Monday, 24 August 2020 18:53 (three years ago) link
Eric Trump is taking the Fifth.You can’t take the Fifth if you didn’t have some potential criminal exposure. https://t.co/oVr1glCcgW— Renato Mariotti (@renato_mariotti) August 24, 2020
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 24 August 2020 19:18 (three years ago) link
Between hurricanes, the RNC, covid, this ongoing NY AG stuff, the heat, more taped and otherwise on the record bullshit coming out, hints of other big news announcements imminent ... this week seems like it's just going to get crazier and crazier.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 24 August 2020 19:24 (three years ago) link
AG lays out why that legal 5th amendment defense is bogus in the filing they made to compel him to testify:
"Given the context in which this abrupt turnabout arose (purported concern about acriminal proceeding), it is possible to read it as an invocation of the Fifth Amendment privilege.9
But is well-established that “a blanket claim of privilege could not be invoked prior toquestions actually having been asked.” Application of Waterfront Comm’n of N.Y. Harbor, 245A.D.2d 63, 64 (1st Dep’t 1997); see also Matter of Parkhouse v. Stringer, 17 Misc. 3d 1119(A)(Sup. Ct. N.Y. Cty. 2007), aff’d, 55 A.D.3d 1 (1st Dep’t 2008), aff’d, 12 N.Y.3d 660 (2009).Hence, the Fifth Amendment cannot plausibly support Eric Trump’s blanket refusal to testify.Nor has Eric Trump established any other basis to refuse to comply with his “general duty togive what testimony one is capable of giving.” Jaffee v. Redmond, 518 U.S. 1, 9 (1996).10 "
― muntjac wagner (Neanderthal), Monday, 24 August 2020 22:00 (three years ago) link
So that means ... you can't preemptively plead the fifth? I guess that makes sense.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 24 August 2020 22:27 (three years ago) link
y'know just in case
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 24 August 2020 22:43 (three years ago) link
"I plan to plead the Fifth about this crime we are about to commit, if anyone ever asks in the future."
― but also fuck you (unperson), Monday, 24 August 2020 23:10 (three years ago) link
Mueller Deputy Andrew Weissman now on MSNBC: “This is really serious. This is not a bit of hidden income. There are allegations that Eric Trump and the Trump Organization did not report $100 million in income. And that’s just one allegation.“— Robert J. DeNault (@robertjdenault) August 25, 2020
In other words, we got him!
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 25 August 2020 16:06 (three years ago) link
But what if....
It....
DIDN'T...
Happen
― muntjac wagner (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 25 August 2020 16:24 (three years ago) link
That's fair, if anyone deserves the benefit of the doubt, it Trump and his family.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 25 August 2020 16:26 (three years ago) link
9 years pass....
"and news today that after the initial trump organization case rose all the way to the state supreme court and then passed back down to a circuit court and then appealed back up to the second highest court, then stayed and revived and sustained and rejected and demoted and then puffed up a little with mysterious drugs with names that look like social security numbers, the allegations against eric trump jr have been dropped"
― The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 25 August 2020 16:33 (three years ago) link
i love how magically, 2.5 months before the election, so much progress is suddenly being made in the case
― The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 25 August 2020 16:34 (three years ago) link
how long ago did mueller's team refer this to SDNY?
I think this stretches back to at least Michael Cohen's arrest.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 25 August 2020 16:48 (three years ago) link
I am obsessed with the guy at the RNC roll call who said ‘Donald John President’ pic.twitter.com/ojVESe6oQ8— Dan Dixon (@danldixon) August 25, 2020
― syphilitic wolf prose errata (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 26 August 2020 03:30 (three years ago) link
We brought out the goof Don JThe Grand Ole Party and me
― muntjac wagner (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 26 August 2020 03:51 (three years ago) link
Permanent name change? Subtle dynasty start so nobody notices. Used to be an elective role now going to be in the family so to honour tradition we thought we'd honour it.Hope not.
― Stevolende, Wednesday, 26 August 2020 07:26 (three years ago) link
Or like another bunch of primitivity from Queens take it on as a group surname for all the bruddas and especially the sista.Now for a minimalist solo from Ivanka President that lasts 4 years.
― Stevolende, Wednesday, 26 August 2020 07:36 (three years ago) link
Just having a normal one:
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-meltdown-missed-phone-call-putin-mike-flynn-theresa-may-meeting-a9691001.html
― pomentiful (pomenitul), Thursday, 27 August 2020 14:45 (three years ago) link
i'm leaning towards dud
― muntjac wagner (Neanderthal), Thursday, 27 August 2020 22:49 (three years ago) link
give him a chance
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 27 August 2020 22:57 (three years ago) link
Another 12 years in the White House and he’ll grow on you.
― pomentiful (pomenitul), Thursday, 27 August 2020 23:03 (three years ago) link
The thirty seconds of the president petulantly demanding that a reporter take off his mask here is just the prelude to an amazing clip. https://t.co/Ed3tiVfsu0— Kevin M. Kruse (@KevinMKruse) September 7, 2020
― Just a few slices of apple, Servant. Thank you. How delicious. (stevie), Monday, 7 September 2020 20:03 (three years ago) link
Former White House Press Secretary wrote in her book—"Speaking for Myself: Faith, Freedom, and the Fight of Our Lives Inside the Trump White House"—that Trump told her the video for 'November Rain' was "the greatest music video of all time" and made her watch it with him in the Oval Office to prove his point, though she "didn't disagree."
https://www.newsweek.com/trump-rally-michigan-november-rain-axl-rose-guns-n-roses-1531294
― pomenitul, Saturday, 12 September 2020 22:44 (three years ago) link
The CC has it right
"They take our money and spend it on building airplanes, ships, rockets, and muscles."
― nashwan, Saturday, 12 September 2020 22:54 (three years ago) link
Them Sammie's gonna end up all over that tie...
sir real philly guys can confirm this is exactly how we eat our hot meat pockets sir https://t.co/DmuBPzeDFm— kilgore trout, non mini-stroke haver (@KT_So_It_Goes) September 15, 2020
― "...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 16 September 2020 01:00 (three years ago) link
Cheddar Goblin vibes
― assert (MatthewK), Wednesday, 16 September 2020 02:44 (three years ago) link
^^Worst Spiderman Villain
― "...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 16 September 2020 02:46 (three years ago) link
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/sep/17/donald-trump-accused-of-sexual-assault-by-former-model-amy-dorris
Not that anyone gives a shit, of course.
― hey, trust the fungus! (pomenitul), Thursday, 17 September 2020 19:29 (three years ago) link
I was going to ask if this was 100% a new accuser, or more in-depth reporting on an existing one. I'm assuming the former, but I've lost track.
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 17 September 2020 19:32 (three years ago) link
This is a new accusation as far as I can tell.
― hey, trust the fungus! (pomenitul), Thursday, 17 September 2020 19:33 (three years ago) link
It still astounds me that absolutely fuck all happens with these mountains of accusations. But hey, at least we booted Al Franken out of public life for good for that tasteless photo!
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 17 September 2020 19:44 (three years ago) link
Not that Franken didn't deserve some sort of pushback for that shit either, just infuriating that nothing sticks to this fuckin' guy.
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 17 September 2020 19:45 (three years ago) link
Well, you see, Donnie is not only a rich and powerful man, he is also famous for his good looks, which have always made the ladies swoon. As he effortlessly leaps from lily pad to lily pad, some lilies inevitably get jealous and band together in order to take down the Don Juan who promised them the moon only to leave them all in the dust. These things always boil down to liberal resentment, you see, so don't you believe a word of what these chicks are saying.
― hey, trust the fungus! (pomenitul), Thursday, 17 September 2020 19:51 (three years ago) link
His figure, and the splendour of his dress, Of which some gilded remnants still were seen, Drew all eyes on him, giving them to guess He was above the vulgar by his mien; And then, though pale, he was so very handsome
― reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 17 September 2020 20:22 (three years ago) link
Great minds incest alike.
― hey, trust the fungus! (pomenitul), Thursday, 17 September 2020 20:26 (three years ago) link
Drunk guy sitting next to you on a plane pic.twitter.com/s1yCyXtaC1— Tim Burgess (@Tim_Burgess) September 18, 2020
― but also fuck you (unperson), Friday, 18 September 2020 13:42 (three years ago) link
There are, as usual, some bonkers clips that came out of that. It's incredible this guy even has a shot, because he sounds like he truly does not give a shit.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 18 September 2020 13:59 (three years ago) link
sorry if linked upthread or elsewhere but only just seen this
Barbara Walters tried to tell you bitches about this man 30 years ago, but you didn't listen. Now, we're here.pic.twitter.com/5nYkqDgzvm— Covfefe "Shecky" Jones- King Of Shade👑 #BBQAnon🌊 (@King_Of_Shade) September 12, 2020
― nashwan, Friday, 18 September 2020 16:08 (three years ago) link
^ I've definitely mentioned before, but he was barred from opening a casino in Sydney in 1987 because of his untrustworthiness and mafia involvement
― erratic wolf angular guitarist (sic), Friday, 18 September 2020 20:08 (three years ago) link
he's done some stuff, ok. but why can't we just give him a chance and see how he does, these last few months of the term? everyone deserves a fresh, clean start
― Karl Malone, Friday, 18 September 2020 22:00 (three years ago) link
tbf he's never had a second term, give him a chance.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 18 September 2020 22:09 (three years ago) link
he got booed by some randos near the supreme court today. apparently it was only like the 5th time he's had to endure this humiliation:
On Thursday morning, we saw one of the rare exceptions. Trump and first lady Melania Trump visited the Supreme Court to pay their respects to Ruth Bader Ginsburg, the Supreme Court justice who died last week. When Trump emerged from the building, within view of the assembled crowd, a rumble of opposition emerged. Soon, it became a chant: “Vote him out.” Trump was probably thankful that, for once, he was wearing a mask; no reaction was visible on his face.Other incidents in which he’s faced public opprobrium can be counted on one hand: boos at his inauguration, boos at a Nationals baseball game last year and, again, at a UFC event a few days later, and, unusually, boos after disparaging the press at an international summit in Switzerland in 2018. Beyond that, opposition manifested directly to Trump’s face is rare precisely because he rarely gets his face in front of hostile critics.It’s tricky to overstate the extent to which Trump generally operates in a sphere where criticism is limited or rare. The White House has been largely purged of people who are willing to buck Trump, by his own design. His travel heavily skews toward either his private properties — where the other people have paid to be in his presence — or to campaign rallies crowded with supporters. During his trips to and from those appearances, he can often see critics along the side of the road, people bearing signs or elevating particular fingers to make their feelings known. But the car simply zips past them.
Other incidents in which he’s faced public opprobrium can be counted on one hand: boos at his inauguration, boos at a Nationals baseball game last year and, again, at a UFC event a few days later, and, unusually, boos after disparaging the press at an international summit in Switzerland in 2018. Beyond that, opposition manifested directly to Trump’s face is rare precisely because he rarely gets his face in front of hostile critics.
It’s tricky to overstate the extent to which Trump generally operates in a sphere where criticism is limited or rare. The White House has been largely purged of people who are willing to buck Trump, by his own design. His travel heavily skews toward either his private properties — where the other people have paid to be in his presence — or to campaign rallies crowded with supporters. During his trips to and from those appearances, he can often see critics along the side of the road, people bearing signs or elevating particular fingers to make their feelings known. But the car simply zips past them.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/09/24/brief-moment-trump-comes-face-to-face-with-political-reality/
― Karl Malone, Friday, 25 September 2020 02:24 (three years ago) link
Yeah, I saw somewhere that this was the first time since January he'd been in public at something that wasn't a rally or some other event honoring him (ie. with a controlled audience).
― "...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 25 September 2020 05:16 (three years ago) link
that time that he had public servants beat up citizens and throw priests out of a church so he could do a photo op was technically an event honouring him by the time he walked outside I guess
― erratic wolf angular guitarist (sic), Friday, 25 September 2020 07:42 (three years ago) link
Has there been any broad public appearance he's made where he hasn't been booed?
― joygoat, Friday, 25 September 2020 13:55 (three years ago) link
how many does he have that aren't closely stage managed
― LaRusso Auto (Neanderthal), Friday, 25 September 2020 13:57 (three years ago) link
according to that washpost article, 5
― Karl Malone, Friday, 25 September 2020 14:51 (three years ago) link
Other incidents in which he’s faced public opprobrium can be counted on one hand: boos at his inauguration, boos at a Nationals baseball game last year and, again, at a UFC event a few days later, and, unusually, boos after disparaging the press at an international summit in Switzerland in 2018
+ boos at RBG's wake at the SC
i DEEPLY wish that the phrase "and the time he got within 500 ft of karl malone, who immediately screamed 'FUUUUUUCK YOOOOOOOOOOUUU!!' at the top of his lungs before escaping down an alleyway while blasting an air horn" could be added to that sentence though
― Karl Malone, Friday, 25 September 2020 14:53 (three years ago) link
I wonder if his death will eventually be celebrated as a sort of unofficial national holiday, with impromptu fireworks, pinatas, parties ... like, Don't Be An Asshole Day.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 25 September 2020 15:52 (three years ago) link
Anyway, for fellow masochists:
https://www.c-span.org/video/?475971-1/trump-v-vance-oral-argument&live
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 25 September 2020 15:56 (three years ago) link
he definitely seems like one of those people who is going to choose to cryogenically freeze his body rather than succumb to death
― Karl Malone, Friday, 25 September 2020 15:56 (three years ago) link
I don’t think he has given even one second of thought to his own death. It wouldn’t surprise me if he doesn’t have a will.
― Boring, Maryland, Friday, 25 September 2020 16:08 (three years ago) link
there's a song called "When Will You Die?" by They Might be Giants that, if it was released today, would immediately be assumed to be about Donald Trump
I'm so tiredOf your liesAnd the evil thingsYou're doing behind my backAre there crimesThat you have never committed?I doubt it, sometimes I wonderWhen will you die?You're insaneYou are badYou wreck everything you touchAnd you're a sociopathBut there's one thingThat everyone's wonderingWhen will you die?
Are there crimesThat you have never committed?I doubt it, sometimes I wonderWhen will you die?
You're insaneYou are badYou wreck everything you touchAnd you're a sociopath
But there's one thingThat everyone's wonderingWhen will you die?
― frogbs, Friday, 25 September 2020 16:14 (three years ago) link
I don’t think he has given even one second of thought to his own death.
lol, he probably has a dedicated team doing constant sweeps making sure a mysterious nerve agent doesn't get within 50 feet of him.
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 25 September 2020 16:15 (three years ago) link
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Novichok_agent#Instances_of_usage
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 25 September 2020 16:16 (three years ago) link
I was wrestling with how to describe that, but then I knew I could count on good ol' Sic Flair to swing in with the realness.
― "...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 25 September 2020 16:42 (three years ago) link
these last few posts sure are interesting october 3 reading
― maura, Saturday, 3 October 2020 22:24 (three years ago) link
There’s a Donald Trump episode of Sesame Street and 15 years later it’s pretty on the nose! pic.twitter.com/oaLjCf1AUZ— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) October 13, 2020
― Walter Draggedman (stevie), Tuesday, 13 October 2020 14:11 (three years ago) link
wait until he finds out about the 80s and 90s
― Covidiots from UHF (sic), Tuesday, 13 October 2020 16:47 (three years ago) link
I meant in pop culture generally too, but here's Sesame Street covering Trump as a slumlord claiming classiness in 1988. And some gross behind-the-scenes of Joe Pesci as Trump on the show in 1994, when they did the same plot as the end of Bloom County in 1989, Trump buying the whole thing and shutting it down.
― Covidiots from UHF (sic), Tuesday, 13 October 2020 17:46 (three years ago) link
your skin is like love to me, my barron
Trump on his son getting the coronavirus: "My Barron. My tall Barron. He's very tall. My beautiful Barron. Handsome. He is handsome. But my beautiful Barron had it. He recovered, like, so fast. I said, wait a minute: how long did that take?"— Daniel Dale (@ddale8) October 15, 2020
― mookieproof, Thursday, 15 October 2020 18:15 (three years ago) link
His hard stop with interjectionary 'like's makes me. Like. Sick to my fucking stomach.
― OrificeMax (Old Lunch), Thursday, 15 October 2020 18:19 (three years ago) link
He sounds like Baron Harkonnen talking about Feyd.
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 15 October 2020 18:20 (three years ago) link
Rabban leaves just as Feyd steps out of the shower. The Baron turns to him lovingly.-- BARON (to Feyd) And when we've crushed these people enough I'll send in you Feyd... they'll cheer you as a rescuer... lovely Feyd... really a lovely boy. (suddenly he smiles and screams) Where's my doctor?
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 15 October 2020 18:21 (three years ago) link
Realized that I've never seen this guy laugh. Even someone like Nixon I've seen giving a hearty bellylaugh. He's so joyless.
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 15 October 2020 18:21 (three years ago) link
Mary T's book lays out the why and how of all that really.
― nashwan, Thursday, 15 October 2020 18:24 (three years ago) link
To be fair, Nixon was pretty drunk most of the time.
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 15 October 2020 18:24 (three years ago) link
TS: gin vs. adderall
― error prone wolf syndicate (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 15 October 2020 18:25 (three years ago) link
Trump tells Iowa MAGA crowd how angry he was to see the Iowa news talk about Iowa floods and problems with Iowa crops instead of his nomination for the Nobel Peace Prize (*anyone can be nominated). Even the MAGA audience is confused 🤷♀️ 🤷🏻♂️ pic.twitter.com/VSkAjCtkve— Ben Meiselas (@meiselasb) October 15, 2020
It really is astounding that even 1% of the population would vote for this sentient shitstain
― error prone wolf syndicate (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 15 October 2020 18:32 (three years ago) link
"I get home, I turn on the tellavision!" Why is he talking like Jerry Stiller?
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 15 October 2020 18:35 (three years ago) link
He asked Melania if she knows what the Nobel Prize is?
― jmm, Thursday, 15 October 2020 18:37 (three years ago) link
darlin’
― Welcome to Nonrock (breastcrawl), Thursday, 15 October 2020 18:37 (three years ago) link
what's the opposite of a tight ten? a prolapsed term?
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 15 October 2020 18:43 (three years ago) link
Hitler was actually nominated in 1939, so there's that.
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 15 October 2020 18:43 (three years ago) link
"ya floods in Iowa"
― jmm, Thursday, 15 October 2020 18:48 (three years ago) link
That's one of the most "beyond parody" things I've seen from a guy with a lifetime of them. God he's so fucking clueless how shit like that comes across.
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 15 October 2020 19:14 (three years ago) link
I'm sure he was just joking around tho, what a card
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 15 October 2020 19:15 (three years ago) link
Realized that I've never seen this guy laugh. Even someone like Nixon I've seen giving a hearty bellylaugh. He's so joyless.― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, October 15, 2020 1:21 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, October 15, 2020 1:21 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
The only time I've seen him laugh was at the Al Smith dinner in 2016
https://s1.ibtimes.com/sites/www.ibtimes.com/files/styles/lg/public/2016/10/21/clump-doinner.jpg
― jaymc, Thursday, 15 October 2020 19:39 (three years ago) link
he's got that Kanye thing, hyper-aware when the cameras are on
― frogbs, Thursday, 15 October 2020 19:41 (three years ago) link
reagan, too
― president of my cat (Karl Malone), Thursday, 15 October 2020 19:49 (three years ago) link
I like the rakish angle of the cardinal's cap... he looks like a ceramic salt shaker.
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 15 October 2020 20:12 (three years ago) link
Twitter Shuts Down Entire Network To Slow Spread Of Negative Biden News https://t.co/JPmjOrKPcr via @TheBabylonBee Wow, this has never been done in history. This includes his really bad interview last night. Why is Twitter doing this. Bringing more attention to Sleepy Joe & Big T— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) October 16, 2020
― Ilxor in the streets, Scampo in the sheets (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 16 October 2020 11:38 (three years ago) link
Trump owes $400+M to the wallet inspector
― nashwan, Friday, 16 October 2020 11:51 (three years ago) link
lol what an idiot
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 16 October 2020 12:09 (three years ago) link
President Trump Declares The Babylon Bee His Most-Trusted News Source https://t.co/oObdxaH3w6— The Babylon Bee (@TheBabylonBee) October 16, 2020
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 16 October 2020 12:21 (three years ago) link
I wanted to say he's the dumbest human on earth but then I scrolled through the replies so let's just say that he and his supporters could be outsmarted by a not-particularly-bright dog and leave it at that.
― OrificeMax (Old Lunch), Friday, 16 October 2020 12:23 (three years ago) link
Did he ever host a Fake News Awards? Just another promise broken ...
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 16 October 2020 12:39 (three years ago) link
My favorite reply was a Trump supporter who literally used the phrase "4d chess"
― Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Friday, 16 October 2020 13:28 (three years ago) link
It would have been better if the supporter had thought it was "forty chess"
― shout-out to his family (DJP), Friday, 16 October 2020 13:29 (three years ago) link
Farty Chess.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 16 October 2020 13:31 (three years ago) link
farty jizz
― Welcome to Nonrock (breastcrawl), Friday, 16 October 2020 13:50 (three years ago) link
I have regrets now
― shout-out to his family (DJP), Friday, 16 October 2020 13:51 (three years ago) link
when the Babylon Bee is dunking on you...
― frogbs, Friday, 16 October 2020 13:52 (three years ago) link
He's a dumb person's idea of a smart guy.
― pomenitul, Friday, 16 October 2020 13:54 (three years ago) link
No, he's a dumb person's idea of a tough guy. Being smart is not exactly seen as a plus here.
― Get the point? Good, let's dance with nunchaku. (Eric H.), Friday, 16 October 2020 14:15 (three years ago) link
'Actually, throughout my life, my two greatest assets have been mental stability and being, like, really smart.'
― pomenitul, Friday, 16 October 2020 14:16 (three years ago) link
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, October 16, 2020 7:39 AM (two hours ago)
he did.
for some reason i saved the entire thing (HTML, images, etc) on the day it happened
― president of my cat (Karl Malone), Friday, 16 October 2020 15:03 (three years ago) link
he didn't "host" it like a tv presenter, but he did "host" it on one of trump websites
― president of my cat (Karl Malone), Friday, 16 October 2020 15:04 (three years ago) link
Oh. Well, I guess he got my vote back, sorry.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 16 October 2020 15:08 (three years ago) link
campaign pledge FULFILLED.
U.S. President Donald Trump created the Fake News Awards to highlight the news outlets that he said were responsible for misrepresenting him and/or producing false reports both before, and during, his presidency. A post to the blog of the GOP website announced the winners on January 17, 2018. They included reports ranging from comments by journalists on social media to news reports that later required corrections.
and it's still there: https://gop.com/the-highly-anticipated-2017-fake-news-awards
― president of my cat (Karl Malone), Friday, 16 October 2020 15:10 (three years ago) link
honestly, i assumed they would take it down shortly afterward. it was very clearly - CLEARLY - made the night before it was due by someone who had never posted anything on the internet before
I hope Biden keeps the Fake News Awards.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 16 October 2020 15:10 (three years ago) link
a Trump supporter who literally used the phrase "4d chess"
Americans rooting against their President's health makes about as much sense as betting big on a chess tournament in which you plan to play pawns against monarchs.— Bret Weinstein (@BretWeinstein) October 2, 2020
― Wayne Grotski (symsymsym), Friday, 16 October 2020 17:14 (three years ago) link
Have you read the responses to that Tweet from chess champions? Hilarious.
― healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Friday, 16 October 2020 17:39 (three years ago) link
all the replies are really great. and also when he tries to explain chess to the international chess federation:
Oh come now. If someone decides to act in the interest of pawns, and against the interests of monarchs, they lose by the normal rules of chess. It’s a lot like hoping your nation’s leader will fail. You can define it as a win, but big picture it’s a loss.— Bret Weinstein (@BretWeinstein) October 3, 2020
― Wayne Grotski (symsymsym), Friday, 16 October 2020 17:44 (three years ago) link
it is a lot like hoping your nation's leader will fail tho
― president of my cat (Karl Malone), Friday, 16 October 2020 17:51 (three years ago) link
"someone decides to act in the interest of pawns" = SOCIALISM
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 16 October 2020 17:52 (three years ago) link
pawns can never do anything. that's how chess works. it's the monarchs that do the moving
― president of my cat (Karl Malone), Friday, 16 October 2020 18:19 (three years ago) link
no way for pawns to become monarchs, in the game of chess
― Wayne Grotski (symsymsym), Friday, 16 October 2020 18:48 (three years ago) link
Move me on to any black square
― nonsensei (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 16 October 2020 18:57 (three years ago) link
that guy's stupid leather fedora. what a tool. i bet he smells bad.
― Give me a Chad Smith-type feel (map), Friday, 16 October 2020 19:07 (three years ago) link
and his pinned tweet, lol. what a jerkoff
― Give me a Chad Smith-type feel (map), Friday, 16 October 2020 19:15 (three years ago) link
Rick Gates? pic.twitter.com/Rip4NfGpHx— Acyn Torabi (@Acyn) October 16, 2020
Matt Gaetz cried in his car after this
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 16 October 2020 21:58 (three years ago) link
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EkfhQZ3X0AUnBqc?format=jpg&name=900x900
― calzino, Saturday, 17 October 2020 01:53 (three years ago) link
Tucker wants us to pity a poor (wealthy) bin Laden?
― the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Saturday, 17 October 2020 01:58 (three years ago) link
Trump says he may leave the US if Biden wins. pic.twitter.com/XmbtYpNDoh— David Mack (@davidmackau) October 17, 2020
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Saturday, 17 October 2020 02:55 (three years ago) link
the gift that keeps
― Dinglebarista (Neanderthal), Saturday, 17 October 2020 02:57 (three years ago) link
the grift that creeps
― error prone wolf syndicate (Hadrian VIII), Saturday, 17 October 2020 02:59 (three years ago) link
he has that golf course in Scotland. he could just go live over there and basically pay himself out of the profits from his secret service detail's hotel bills.
― sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Saturday, 17 October 2020 03:02 (three years ago) link
does he have any resorts in non-extradition countries?
― sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Saturday, 17 October 2020 03:03 (three years ago) link
His next reality show can be him trying to build a golf course in Venezuela
― American Fear of Scampos (Ed), Saturday, 17 October 2020 03:16 (three years ago) link
he can build himself into the course
― Dinglebarista (Neanderthal), Saturday, 17 October 2020 03:17 (three years ago) link
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EkoKJNlUUAA2GSK?format=jpg&name=4096x4096
Very ... bemused Satan?
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 18 October 2020 18:32 (three years ago) link
^was he in Florida in that photo?
― the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Sunday, 18 October 2020 18:35 (three years ago) link
Las Vegas, iirc. He is being "blessed."
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 18 October 2020 18:49 (three years ago) link
Boy do I ever hate his dumb + smug face. I mean the rest of him, too, of course, but I'm just focused on the face rn.
― OrificeMax (Old Lunch), Sunday, 18 October 2020 18:52 (three years ago) link
I thought that was a spitting image puppet for a second.
― Boring, Maryland, Sunday, 18 October 2020 18:55 (three years ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/mPlysmy.jpg
― president of my cat (Karl Malone), Sunday, 18 October 2020 18:59 (three years ago) link
lol, i didn't realize those were people PRAYING for him in that photo! i thought they were just dumb people waving at him
― president of my cat (Karl Malone), Sunday, 18 October 2020 19:00 (three years ago) link
he's about to leave our lives, as mysteriously as he arrived.
― treeship., Sunday, 18 October 2020 19:01 (three years ago) link
https://basementrejects.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/big-trouble-in-little-china-thunder-explodes-ending-carter-wong-review.jpg
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 18 October 2020 19:01 (three years ago) link
that's just a bad angle josh. fake news!
― treeship., Sunday, 18 October 2020 19:03 (three years ago) link
I mean to the extent that one's visage is a roadmap of one's experiences, Trump's experience of having everything handed to him forever and the attendant self-satisfaction of that perpetual state is positively etched across his stupid fucking face. It's like the slack o-face of someone who jacks off to a picture of himself holding a fanned-out stack of hundos and can't imagine anything sexier or more perfect.
― OrificeMax (Old Lunch), Sunday, 18 October 2020 19:51 (three years ago) link
http://assets.titleleaf.com/abdopub/product/cover/xl_9781532127472_fc.jpg
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Sunday, 18 October 2020 21:44 (three years ago) link
open up those masks people, take a good whiff
― assert (MatthewK), Sunday, 18 October 2020 22:46 (three years ago) link
― Give me a Chad Smith-type feel (map), Monday, 19 October 2020 01:57 (three years ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/uSGFYCP.jpg
― error prone wolf syndicate (Hadrian VIII), Monday, 19 October 2020 02:23 (three years ago) link
Newsmax preempted their schedule to broadcast the president’s rally but apparently didn’t think it important to change the title of the programming. pic.twitter.com/mHtdyOv3MY— Jonathan Reiner (@JReinerMD) October 19, 2020
― Walter Draggedman (stevie), Monday, 19 October 2020 10:18 (three years ago) link
President Donald Trump was in the middle of receiving a highly classified briefing on Afghanistan at his New Jersey golf club when he suddenly craved a malted milkshake.“Does anyone want a malt?” he asked the senior defense and intelligence officials gathered around him, an august group that included the head of the CIA’s Special Activities Center, which is responsible for covert operations and paramilitary operations. “We have the best malts, you have to try them,” Trump insisted, as he beckoned a waiter into the room where code-word classified intelligence was being discussed.
“Does anyone want a malt?” he asked the senior defense and intelligence officials gathered around him, an august group that included the head of the CIA’s Special Activities Center, which is responsible for covert operations and paramilitary operations. “We have the best malts, you have to try them,” Trump insisted, as he beckoned a waiter into the room where code-word classified intelligence was being discussed.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 19 October 2020 13:11 (three years ago) link
the blackest comedy
― error prone wolf syndicate (Hadrian VIII), Monday, 19 October 2020 13:12 (three years ago) link
And at the same time, the whitest
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 19 October 2020 13:16 (three years ago) link
― pomenitul, Monday, 19 October 2020 13:16 (three years ago) link
Is this something he picked up when he was pretending to like Goya products?
https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/7163qiczJIL.jpg
― but also fuck you (unperson), Monday, 19 October 2020 13:34 (three years ago) link
This guy nails it:
PRES TRUMP TODAY IN CALIFORNIA: " 'WEIRD AL' WAS VERY MEAN TO MR. COOLIO!! DIDN'T ASK FOR RIGHTS. NOT VERY NICE!" pic.twitter.com/kgF5UFYRLP— james austin "johnson" (@shrimpJAJ) October 18, 2020
I love the idea of a guy roaming the streets just riffing as Trump.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 19 October 2020 15:26 (three years ago) link
wow yeah he's good
― frogbs, Monday, 19 October 2020 15:34 (three years ago) link
It's good but I am also kind of sad thinking of how much one would have to actually listen to Trump to get to that level and... I just can't.
― they see me lollin' (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 19 October 2020 15:38 (three years ago) link
Every now and then I remember that even in the event of a humiliating defeat, for the rest of his years Donald Trump will have secret service protection, travel privileges, (military) health care, a lifetime salary of $200,000, plus 100K annually for office expenses....
― error prone wolf syndicate (Hadrian VIII), Monday, 19 October 2020 15:58 (three years ago) link
...access to executive intelligence briefings...
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Monday, 19 October 2020 16:16 (three years ago) link
Hah, like he'd read
― they see me lollin' (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 19 October 2020 16:20 (three years ago) link
can't be great for your mental health either xxxp
― global tetrahedron, Monday, 19 October 2020 16:25 (three years ago) link
He will always get asked to that impression, they will tear him down :-(
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 19 October 2020 16:38 (three years ago) link
holy shit i never thought i would want to hear a trump impression again, that was brilliant
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 19 October 2020 16:42 (three years ago) link
I assume a future president or whomever could pretty easily strip a former president of those benefits, esp. if they were compromising national security or putting people at risk. Like, Trump could conceivably trade state secrets in return for, say, permission to build a hotel in Moscow or something, which I know is nothing he'd even consider, we're just talking hypotheticals here.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 19 October 2020 17:45 (three years ago) link
goddamnit the malt thing is one of the very few times Trump is actually relatable.
― Evans on Hammond (evol j), Monday, 19 October 2020 17:49 (three years ago) link
finally, he's struck a new tone
Dr.Tony Fauci says we don’t allow him to do television, and yet I saw him last night on @60Minutes, and he seems to get more airtime than anybody since the late, great, Bob Hope. All I ask of Tony is that he make better decisions. He said “no masks & let China in”. Also, Bad arm!— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) October 19, 2020
...P.S. Tony should stop wearing the Washington Nationals’ Mask for two reasons. Number one, it is not up to the high standards that he should be exposing. Number two, it keeps reminding me that Tony threw out perhaps the worst first pitch in the history of Baseball!— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) October 19, 2020
― frogbs, Monday, 19 October 2020 18:26 (three years ago) link
name drop bob hope, that's the way to get those seniors back onto your team
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 19 October 2020 18:27 (three years ago) link
Ah, yes, it's the old "which candidate would you rather drink a malt with" question. Can Biden's ice cream addiction compete with sudden cravings for a malted milkshake? We'll see when all the votes have been tallied on November, uh, 40th.
― the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Monday, 19 October 2020 18:31 (three years ago) link
he is quite the soda jerk, yes
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 19 October 2020 18:32 (three years ago) link
This asshole just trying to lose now
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Monday, 19 October 2020 18:32 (three years ago) link
ony threw out perhaps the worst first pitch in the history of Baseball!
Only because our favorite president has yet to do so, to my eternal chagrin.
― OrificeMax (Old Lunch), Monday, 19 October 2020 18:38 (three years ago) link
Can you imagine the gif, just playing on repeat forever and ever, that sad ball flopping onto the ground three feet in front of him, the front of his slacks slowly darkening with the urine of regret
― OrificeMax (Old Lunch), Monday, 19 October 2020 18:39 (three years ago) link
On tarmac in Phoenix, Trump sounding angry, calling Joe Biden "a criminal" and accusing the press of being criminals for not covering his attacks on Biden.— Jim Acosta (@Acosta) October 19, 2020
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Monday, 19 October 2020 18:52 (three years ago) link
The president of the United States says that a reporter asking him a question is "a criminal for not reporting" on the Hunter Biden smear story. pic.twitter.com/g7gVI4K2YB— Matthew Gertz (@MattGertz) October 19, 2020
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Monday, 19 October 2020 18:58 (three years ago) link
Fucking losing it
but vague threats have always worked well for him in the past
― the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Monday, 19 October 2020 19:00 (three years ago) link
"good luck and have a good time"
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 19 October 2020 19:01 (three years ago) link
https://comb.io/35YLfC.gif
― OrificeMax (Old Lunch), Monday, 19 October 2020 19:01 (three years ago) link
its amazing that none of this shit affects his standing at all. 46% of America is hooting and hollering as he disparages our top doctors and rails against freedom of speech
― frogbs, Monday, 19 October 2020 19:01 (three years ago) link
To the extent that it doesn't become dangerous (which isn't unlikely), his increasingly-unhinged desperation will be quite beautiful to behold.
― OrificeMax (Old Lunch), Monday, 19 October 2020 19:02 (three years ago) link
xpost They were literally chanting 'WE LOVE YOU!' in some rally clip I saw this morning.
― OrificeMax (Old Lunch), Monday, 19 October 2020 19:03 (three years ago) link
Remember when 3 Doors Down played his inauguration?
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 19 October 2020 19:58 (three years ago) link
Every now and then I remember that even in the event of a humiliating defeat, for the rest of his years Donald Trump will havesecret service protection, travel privileges, (military) health care, a lifetime salary of $200,000, plus 100K annually for office expenses....
I can't even be mad at the idea of a secret service detail flanking him on his daily travel from his cell to the showerblock to the mess hall
― Covidiots from UHF (sic), Monday, 19 October 2020 20:07 (three years ago) link
the Presidential shiv
― eat my room temperature ass (Neanderthal), Monday, 19 October 2020 20:20 (three years ago) link
This guy will never, ever face a consequence and will die of old age in comfort, a perfect metaphor for the society that America has allowed to flourish.
― assert (MatthewK), Monday, 19 October 2020 20:23 (three years ago) link
Here's the clip from Trump's rally: pic.twitter.com/UeRmUyBpUw— The Recount (@therecount) October 19, 2020
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Monday, 19 October 2020 20:57 (three years ago) link
You know, Biden wants, listen, Biden wants you and your loved ones to not die prematurely. Sad!It's a winning strategy for the votes.
― OrificeMax (Old Lunch), Monday, 19 October 2020 21:33 (three years ago) link
You know what I miss? Hamberders.
― DJI, Monday, 19 October 2020 22:14 (three years ago) link
"I call the head of Exxon. I'll use a company. 'How, how are you doing, how's energy coming? When are doing the exploration? Oh, you need a couple of permits, huh?' But I call the head of Exxon, I say, 'you know, I'd love you to send me $25m for the campaign'" - Trump #QuidProQuo pic.twitter.com/Tr1ccpyMzw— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) October 19, 2020
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Monday, 19 October 2020 22:17 (three years ago) link
i mean, that is how it works
― treeship., Monday, 19 October 2020 22:18 (three years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7_k9mOsqV0
― treeship., Monday, 19 October 2020 22:19 (three years ago) link
after trump is gone, we need to revisit the issue of campaign finance. and pack the court so we can overturn citizens' united.
well yeah
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Monday, 19 October 2020 22:20 (three years ago) link
Trump is always referring to "the disaster known as Obamacare." If Biden wins, he should rename it "The Disaster Formerly Known as Obamacare" in the first few months of his term, then drop that for a mysterious symbol.
― clemenza, Monday, 19 October 2020 22:29 (three years ago) link
he should rename it trumpcare, just for the lols
― umsworth (emsworth), Monday, 19 October 2020 22:38 (three years ago) link
he should change it up a little and call it Medicare for All
― treeship., Monday, 19 October 2020 22:47 (three years ago) link
he should eat shit slowly
― Walter Draggedman (stevie), Monday, 19 October 2020 22:57 (three years ago) link
“Oh, I don’t know,” Trump replied. “Look, he’s an expert. He’s one of the experts of the world.”i’m afraid to say there are some Trump phrases that almost make you wriggle with pleasure. from this long dive into white house covid chaos in the WaPo.to balance what might be seen as unseemly amusement, i thought the most telling quote in the piece was this:
Trump and many of his advisers have come to believe that the key to a revived economy and a return to normalcy is a vaccine.“They’ve given up on everything else,” said a senior administration official involved in the pandemic response. “It’s too hard of a slog.”
― Fizzles, Tuesday, 20 October 2020 07:21 (three years ago) link
Yes, good stuff, Fizzles. In the UK we've been alternating between grim workaholics and lazy offhand poshos for some time: Brown/ Cameron/ May/ Johnson. I'm not saying one is necessarily a reaction to the other but I do wonder sometimes.
― Young Boys of Bernie (Tom D.), Tuesday, 20 October 2020 09:12 (three years ago) link
This is the same guy, rant on Scooby Doo:
https://t.co/w1NP5xnR54— Dylan Ewing 🛸 (@realcooltimes) October 19, 2020
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 20 October 2020 10:36 (three years ago) link
WHOA: "Three Simultaneous Lightning Strikes on the Trump Hotel Chicago at 2:14am on Thursday." Thanks to @BarryButlerPhotography for sharing the incredible shot. pic.twitter.com/4r431yhikq— ABC 7 Chicago (@ABC7Chicago) October 22, 2020
― you are like a scampicane, there's calm in your fries (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 22 October 2020 15:27 (three years ago) link
huge ghostbusters energy
That lightning storm last night (and I mean freaking ALL last night) was something else. Had no idea it was some deity or other attempting to destroy Trump's shitty building but I support the effort.
― OrificeMax (Old Lunch), Thursday, 22 October 2020 15:30 (three years ago) link
Oh for FUCK'S sake, the writers are going way overboard on heavy-handed metaphors this season.
― fretless porpentine (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 22 October 2020 15:35 (three years ago) link
It's not a metaphor.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 22 October 2020 15:36 (three years ago) link
i've been flipping that building off for 4 years now, glad to see that my negative energy is starting to translate
― president of my cat (Karl Malone), Thursday, 22 October 2020 15:45 (three years ago) link
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ElCP3ntXgAEaToj?format=jpg&name=small
― calzino, Friday, 23 October 2020 19:01 (three years ago) link
like they added a little Sam Waterston DNA
― Neanderthal, Friday, 23 October 2020 19:40 (three years ago) link
so either a cake or for ballistics tests i guess?
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 23 October 2020 19:47 (three years ago) link
one of the few human beings who looks more human as a cake than as himself
TRUMP: I would eat me.
― "what are you DOING to fleetwood mac??" (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 23 October 2020 19:49 (three years ago) link
Are there still Melania truthers out there?
Is this really Melania? Nose, jawline, and smile aren't the same as the real one. pic.twitter.com/zcb5PIkRJY— 10 more days - Let's end this nightmare! (@DrPimK) October 24, 2020
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Sunday, 25 October 2020 01:35 (three years ago) link
Looks like her
― Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Sunday, 25 October 2020 02:22 (three years ago) link
yes. me. I think that's a different person.
― frogbs, Sunday, 25 October 2020 02:24 (three years ago) link
you absolutely can't conclude anything from a single low-res digital image taken in motion from one angle, AND also that doesn't look like her
― Un-fooled and placid (sic), Sunday, 25 October 2020 02:28 (three years ago) link
Also, the b00ps are much smaller than Melania and the teeth are different.— 10 more days - Let's end this nightmare! (@DrPimK) October 24, 2020
― Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Sunday, 25 October 2020 02:30 (three years ago) link
also: why would a fake melania be there
― president of my cat (Karl Malone), Sunday, 25 October 2020 02:43 (three years ago) link
Real Melania is in hiding preparing to turn state's evidence against him.
― Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Sunday, 25 October 2020 02:44 (three years ago) link
Melania doesn't smile wide with teeth like that. Though I guess to be fair, she's always so made up I imagine it doesn't take much (or less) to make her look like someone else.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 25 October 2020 02:45 (three years ago) link
Maybe he ate Melania?
I am embarrassed to agree with this or really have any opinion at all on it but yeah that just doesn't look like her?
― error prone wolf syndicate (Hadrian VIII), Sunday, 25 October 2020 02:45 (three years ago) link
― Give me a Chad Smith-type feel (map), Sunday, 25 October 2020 02:45 (three years ago) link
Probably just the pilot's fashionista wife.
― error prone wolf syndicate (Hadrian VIII), Sunday, 25 October 2020 02:46 (three years ago) link
I care whether they're using a Melania stunt double about as much as I care that Donald used to call reporters claiming to be his own publicist. Believable, sure. In character, yes. Does it matter in terms of whether or not he's a piece of shit? Eh, not really.
It may turn out that there's a stunt Melania. It may turn out that there isn't, and it's just a weird angle or lighting or whatever.
If we press the line that it's the former, and it was the latter, then we look stupid and delusional. It's bait. If we just shake our heads at how fucked up that whole family and scene is, that's low stakes and has the advantage of being obviously true.
― Fjord Explorer (Ye Mad Puffin), Sunday, 25 October 2020 03:18 (three years ago) link
I think it’s just a weird angle. It still looks kind of like her:
― treeship., Sunday, 25 October 2020 03:21 (three years ago) link
i'm with YMP, i just dgaf, and bummed seeing my friends posting the shit
― Neanderthal, Sunday, 25 October 2020 03:24 (three years ago) link
Soon the trumps will be gone
― treeship., Sunday, 25 October 2020 03:24 (three years ago) link
with brown underwear as their only take home gift
― Neanderthal, Sunday, 25 October 2020 03:25 (three years ago) link
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 25 October 2020 03:32 (three years ago) link
I mean, you all know that most heads of state and presidents have doubles, right? I don't care, but I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility
― healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Sunday, 25 October 2020 11:31 (three years ago) link
How long after he loses before she serves divorce papers? Maybe he gets to keep the shadow warrior, who knows.
― logout option: disabled (Matt #2), Sunday, 25 October 2020 12:32 (three years ago) link
She was supposed to divorce him in 2016 after he lost the election, then disaster struck. Trumps now banging Hope Hicks is the rumor.
― Boring, Maryland, Sunday, 25 October 2020 12:42 (three years ago) link
― Boring, Maryland, Sunday, 25 October 2020 12:43 (three years ago) link
I was just about to say, is it really that common? Why would any of them have doubles? If they were in two places at once that would be a giveaway, and if you're making a public appearance that means close up work, which could be a giveaway, too. I think the only reason dictators had/have doubles is in case someone tries to kill them, which is not as much of a concern here.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 25 October 2020 12:45 (three years ago) link
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/80/Dave_poster.jpg
― Fjord Explorer (Ye Mad Puffin), Sunday, 25 October 2020 12:53 (three years ago) link
A double of Boris Johnson, can you imagine?
― Young Boys of Bernie (Tom D.), Sunday, 25 October 2020 13:23 (three years ago) link
Give it a few years
https://celebs.infoseemedia.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/Boris-Johnson-son-Theodore-Apollo-Johnson-image.jpg
― logout option: disabled (Matt #2), Sunday, 25 October 2020 13:45 (three years ago) link
^ about to be sorted into Slytherin
― Fjord Explorer (Ye Mad Puffin), Sunday, 25 October 2020 15:01 (three years ago) link
still got it
wut pic.twitter.com/dVghqC5MMM— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) October 27, 2020
― Un-fooled and placid (sic), Tuesday, 27 October 2020 06:21 (three years ago) link
And that's what I did on my summer vacation.
― the colour out of space (is the place) (PBKR), Tuesday, 27 October 2020 13:38 (three years ago) link
"before that, we will do tomorrow"
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 27 October 2020 18:19 (three years ago) link
"These are very, very tough times," Trump says. This video is not about COVID, but Antifa. https://t.co/PMc2izfuzU— Noah Bierman (@Noahbierman) October 27, 2020
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Tuesday, 27 October 2020 21:24 (three years ago) link
Call me crazy tin-foil, but there is a part of me that believes that the pigs who killed Walter Wallace Jr. in front of his family yesterday in Philly did so to stir up reaction on the left and scare voters in the suburbs into voting Republican. At this point, I wouldn't put anything past these fuckers.
― healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Tuesday, 27 October 2020 21:42 (three years ago) link
That has definitely crossed my mind as a thing that could/would/may have happened with respect to police shootings.
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Wednesday, 28 October 2020 01:42 (three years ago) link
when it produces headlines like this it's hard not to
Philadelphia police say 1,000 looters targeting businesses on second night of protests https://t.co/cTOwkrMl1l— Fox News (@FoxNews) October 28, 2020
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 28 October 2020 01:48 (three years ago) link
xxp don't know what they were thinking, but it crossed my mind too that it scares voters in the suburbs into voting Republican
― Dan S, Wednesday, 28 October 2020 01:50 (three years ago) link
My dad, a man who has grown more and more left-oriented as he's gotten older, basically said to me today, "well, every FOP consists of a bunch of corrupt thugs, and absent abolition, we'll never see a change in the way policing is handled in the US."
― healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Wednesday, 28 October 2020 01:56 (three years ago) link
But he's an outlier. I don't know how much of a difference it will make, but my conspiracy mind is always there.
― healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Wednesday, 28 October 2020 01:58 (three years ago) link
xxp I wonder if there was an intention there, even if unconscious and based on existing prejudices
― Dan S, Wednesday, 28 October 2020 01:59 (three years ago) link
President Trump took off in Air Force One 1 hr 20 minutes ago, but thousands of his supporters remain stranded on a dark road outside the rally. “We need at least 30 more buses,” an Omaha police officer just said, shaking his head at the chaotic cluster that is unfolding.— Jeff Zeleny (@jeffzeleny) October 28, 2020
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 28 October 2020 04:25 (three years ago) link
...how did they get there in the first place?
― just another 3-pinnochio post by (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 28 October 2020 05:38 (three years ago) link
did the buses drop them off and leave?
there was darkness, then a fog. most of the participants were unclear on how they got to their destination, many rubbed their eyes and expected to wake from a dream. but to no avail - there they were. and there he was.
― Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 28 October 2020 05:41 (three years ago) link
mike pence stared blankly at them all
mother
― just another 3-pinnochio post by (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 28 October 2020 05:42 (three years ago) link
Long twitter thread about the Omaha clusterfuck
Officers picking up people wandering in the cold unable to locate their vehicles and are taking them to various parking lots.— Omaha Scanner (@omaha_scanner) October 28, 2020
― Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 28 October 2020 05:44 (three years ago) link
One officer advising 8 to 9 elderly people who are struggling. Seperate officer advising they have located an elderly party who is frozen cold unable to move with an altered mental status.— Omaha Scanner (@omaha_scanner) October 28, 2020
ok that's just fucked up
― Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 28 October 2020 05:49 (three years ago) link
https://iowastartingline.com/2020/10/28/trump-supporters-left-stranded-at-freezing-omaha-airport/
― Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 28 October 2020 05:53 (three years ago) link
Wow. After Trump's rally tonight, he left thousands of supporters stranded in the blistering cold miles away from their cars. @omaha_scanner is currently reporting at least 30 patient contacts and 7 patient transports to the hospital. Elderly supporters were hit the hardest. pic.twitter.com/RnWy4ab4eq— MeidasTouch.com (@MeidasTouch) October 28, 2020
― Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 28 October 2020 05:56 (three years ago) link
I just finished watching the PBS Frontline program (a repeat) that tries to give a political biography of Trump and Biden. I must say, though PBS usually is weak-kneed and timid about appearing biased, this documentary pretty clearly laid out the Mary Trump point of view about her uncle Donald, that he's a bully, a racist, a liar and has no interest in anyone or anything except the continuing 'success' of Donald Trump.
Cool! Nice to see it all tied up with a bow and given out for free to the public right now as the voting happens.
― the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Wednesday, 28 October 2020 06:08 (three years ago) link
Man, if only there was a way to convince his fans that he gives exactly as many fucks (read: zero) about them as he gave about his Omaha fans last night. Like I don't know how more stark an example you could provide, aside from a straight-up Greg Stillson moment.
― OrificeMax (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 28 October 2020 12:07 (three years ago) link
(Not that I'm discounting the possibility of Trump using the child of a Trump supporter as a human shield at some point in the next week.)
― OrificeMax (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 28 October 2020 12:08 (three years ago) link
with an altered mental status
idgi how can they tell
― error prone wolf syndicate (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 28 October 2020 12:43 (three years ago) link
irl loled at work, thanks Hadrian (I aws on webcam - people probably wondering what the fuck i'm laughing at)
― Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 28 October 2020 13:48 (three years ago) link
:)
― error prone wolf syndicate (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 28 October 2020 17:09 (three years ago) link
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 28 October 2020 17:13 (three years ago) link
Vic Berger has made an hour-long "phantasmagoric odyssey into the presidency of Donald J. Trump"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZKkUyrklpc&
― Number None, Wednesday, 28 October 2020 19:43 (three years ago) link
― beard papa, Thursday, 29 October 2020 22:05 (three years ago) link
"Look, we'll probably lose half a million lives to this pandemic before it's all over, but so far it's nobody I really care about. All I care about is: me."
― the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Thursday, 29 October 2020 22:11 (three years ago) link
Just had a great meeting with @realdonaldtrump @potus besides what he’s done so far with criminal reform, the platinum plan is going to give the community real ownership. He listened to what we had to say today and assured he will and can get it done. 🤙🏾 pic.twitter.com/Q9c5k1yMWf— Lil Wayne WEEZY F (@LilTunechi) October 29, 2020
― calzino, Thursday, 29 October 2020 22:56 (three years ago) link
^I clicked that, got this, seemed appropriate:
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― the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Thursday, 29 October 2020 23:19 (three years ago) link
https://www.newyorker.com/news/q-and-a/noam-chomsky-believes-trump-is-the-worst-criminal-in-human-history
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 30 October 2020 18:41 (three years ago) link
a bold claim in a world where the hamburglar is still at large
― you are like a scampicane, there's calm in your fries (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 30 October 2020 18:51 (three years ago) link
I believe it's supposed to be spelled "Hamberdler."
― Anaïs Ninja (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 30 October 2020 18:54 (three years ago) link
WTF is the platinum plan
― Ape Hole Road (Boring, Maryland), Friday, 30 October 2020 18:58 (three years ago) link
Healthcare for hip-hop magnates
― Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Friday, 30 October 2020 19:09 (three years ago) link
It's the sole policy in Trump's platform.
― Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Friday, 30 October 2020 19:10 (three years ago) link
Hip Hop Co-payyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
― Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Friday, 30 October 2020 19:15 (three years ago) link
― Give me a Chad Smith-type feel (map), Friday, 30 October 2020 19:15 (three years ago) link
any melania truthers here
― Give me a Chad Smith-type feel (map), Friday, 30 October 2020 22:07 (three years ago) link
"WTF is the platinum plan"
building platforms, creating growth .. for the lil community
― calzino, Friday, 30 October 2020 22:14 (three years ago) link
Photos taken of famous people together that you would never have expected to be together but make you sad all the same.
― here we go, ten in a rona (onimo), Saturday, 31 October 2020 10:11 (three years ago) link
VOTE! VOTE! VOTE!pic.twitter.com/85ySh1KYkh— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 3, 2020
― real muthaphuckkin jeez (crüt), Tuesday, 3 November 2020 14:40 (three years ago) link
When gpa thinks he knows what flossing is
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 3 November 2020 14:42 (three years ago) link
"Pundits questioned the strategy of a dance-battle challenge as polls opened, but when the final results were tabulated ..."
― On average, this critic grades 8.3 points lower than other critics (Eric H.), Tuesday, 3 November 2020 14:49 (three years ago) link
is this a bluey reference
― adam, Tuesday, 3 November 2020 14:52 (three years ago) link
He was a massive failure in almost every regard, but no one can say he didn't move his arms a lot.
― error prone wolf syndicate (Hadrian VIII), Tuesday, 3 November 2020 15:08 (three years ago) link
If never very high.
― OrificeMax (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 3 November 2020 15:10 (three years ago) link
Here especially, he knew his limits.
― error prone wolf syndicate (Hadrian VIII), Tuesday, 3 November 2020 15:12 (three years ago) link
Exclusive: Tired of Trump, Deutsche Bank games ways to sever ties with the president - sources
NEW YORK/FRANKFURT (Reuters) - Deutsche Bank AG is looking for ways to end its relationship with President Donald Trump after the U.S. elections, as it tires of the negative publicity stemming from the ties, according to three senior bank officials with direct knowledge of the matter.Deutsche Bank has about $340 million in loans outstanding to the Trump Organization, the president’s umbrella group that is currently overseen by his two sons, according to filings made by Trump to the U.S. Office of Government Ethics in July and a senior source within the bank. The three loans, which are against Trump properties and start coming due in two years, are current on payments and personally guaranteed by the president, according to two bank officials.In meetings in recent months, a Deutsche Bank management committee that oversees reputational and other risks for the lender in the Americas region has discussed ways in which it could rid the bank of these last vestiges of the relationship, two of the three bank officials said. The bank has over the years lent Trump more than $2 billion, one of the officials said.One idea that has come up in the meetings: sell the loans in the secondary market, two of the bank officials said. But one of the officials said that idea has not gained traction, in part because it is not clear who would want to buy the loans and the attendant problems that come with it....The loans, which are against Trump’s golf course in Miami, and hotels in Washington and Chicago, are such that the Trump Organization has only had to pay interest on them so far, and the entire principal is outstanding, two of the three bank officials said. They come due in 2023 and 2024, the filings show.The businesses backing the loans face challenges. The coronavirus-driven economic slowdown has hit the travel industry, including hotels. Moreover, last month Reuters reported that Trump’s plan to make money by developing houses and hotels on his golf courses, including the one involving the Deutsche Bank loan, had not panned out so far.The Deutsche Bank executives are not unduly concerned about Trump’s ability to repay the loans, given the president’s personal guarantees and the time left before they come due, the three bank officials said.If Trump is not in office, Deutsche Bank executives feel that it would be easier for them to demand repayment, foreclose if he is not able to pay it off or refinance, or try to sell the loans, according to two of the three bank officials.Since Trump has personally guaranteed all the loans, Deutsche Bank could also seize the president’s assets if he is unable to repay, two of the three bank officials said.
Deutsche Bank has about $340 million in loans outstanding to the Trump Organization, the president’s umbrella group that is currently overseen by his two sons, according to filings made by Trump to the U.S. Office of Government Ethics in July and a senior source within the bank. The three loans, which are against Trump properties and start coming due in two years, are current on payments and personally guaranteed by the president, according to two bank officials.
In meetings in recent months, a Deutsche Bank management committee that oversees reputational and other risks for the lender in the Americas region has discussed ways in which it could rid the bank of these last vestiges of the relationship, two of the three bank officials said. The bank has over the years lent Trump more than $2 billion, one of the officials said.
One idea that has come up in the meetings: sell the loans in the secondary market, two of the bank officials said. But one of the officials said that idea has not gained traction, in part because it is not clear who would want to buy the loans and the attendant problems that come with it.
The loans, which are against Trump’s golf course in Miami, and hotels in Washington and Chicago, are such that the Trump Organization has only had to pay interest on them so far, and the entire principal is outstanding, two of the three bank officials said. They come due in 2023 and 2024, the filings show.
The businesses backing the loans face challenges. The coronavirus-driven economic slowdown has hit the travel industry, including hotels. Moreover, last month Reuters reported that Trump’s plan to make money by developing houses and hotels on his golf courses, including the one involving the Deutsche Bank loan, had not panned out so far.
The Deutsche Bank executives are not unduly concerned about Trump’s ability to repay the loans, given the president’s personal guarantees and the time left before they come due, the three bank officials said.
If Trump is not in office, Deutsche Bank executives feel that it would be easier for them to demand repayment, foreclose if he is not able to pay it off or refinance, or try to sell the loans, according to two of the three bank officials.
Since Trump has personally guaranteed all the loans, Deutsche Bank could also seize the president’s assets if he is unable to repay, two of the three bank officials said.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 3 November 2020 15:27 (three years ago) link
The Deutsche Bank executives are not unduly concerned about Trump’s ability to repay the loans, given the president’s personal guarantees
Cannot help imagining subtext of "There is nothing unduly about our concerns. We are very duly concerned indeed."
― anatol_merklich, Tuesday, 3 November 2020 15:35 (three years ago) link
yeah, i stared at that exact fragment, for a while.
they are not "unduly concerned" = one thingthey are not "unduly" concerned" = another
― just another 3-pinnochio post by (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 3 November 2020 15:55 (three years ago) link
why can i not type letters and symbols without mistakes
they are not "unduly concerned" = one thingthey are not "unduly" concerned = another
This is interesting if true - the r/asktrumpsupporters line lately has been "meh, he'll just renegotiate / refinance loans."
Even the most rosy pro-Trump view is that the reason for his financial sitch is that he just buys properties and keeps them. He pursues "passion projects" like golf courses and is focused more on owning things than profiting from them. So debt is beside the point, because he has lots of assets that he doesn't sell, so his net worth is still comfy. I am not a money-knowing person so I won't speculate on the wisdom of this.
Perhaps Deutsche Bank wants to repossess a bunch of shitty hotels and stupid fairways, I dunno. But I think they'd like cash more.
― Kabob Dylan (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 3 November 2020 15:58 (three years ago) link
i know it's the least important thing, but god if i ever dance like this, please just help me
Tops off! pic.twitter.com/I2ecdXE4WC— James Cullen (@jamescullen123) November 3, 2020
― just another 3-pinnochio post by (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 3 November 2020 16:50 (three years ago) link
the finger up at the end is what makes me ia
― Give me a Chad Smith-type feel (map), Tuesday, 3 November 2020 16:58 (three years ago) link
but yeah he looks like a woo girl on k
god he really does have tiny lil hands
― plax (ico), Tuesday, 3 November 2020 17:24 (three years ago) link
hand moves reminiscent of Toni Collette's in the attic towards the end of Hereditary
― circa1916, Tuesday, 3 November 2020 17:34 (three years ago) link
I just saw his dance style referred to as the double hand job.
You're welcome.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 3 November 2020 17:38 (three years ago) link
https://thumbs.gfycat.com/VacantDishonestIberianmidwifetoad-size_restricted.gif
― circa1916, Tuesday, 3 November 2020 17:46 (three years ago) link
and there it is
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 3 November 2020 18:01 (three years ago) link
VOTE! VOTE! VOTE!pic.twitter.com/85ySh1KYkh— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump)
Four years ago, his campaign videos were as awkwardly made as an episode of Decker. Today, his campaign videos are indistinguishable from Vic Berger edits.
― edited for dog profanity (sic), Tuesday, 3 November 2020 18:50 (three years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdr2eLAAPuw&feature=emb_title
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 3 November 2020 18:52 (three years ago) link
Well that didn't work, but it was supposed to link to the Season 1 finale of Silicon Valley. If you've seen it, you know the scene.
https://i.imgur.com/k4f6qRU.gif?noredirect
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 3 November 2020 19:24 (three years ago) link
what an astonishingly petty little bitch, full thread for details
"And then I won't pay the bill of the company that does this crazy microphone, and they'll do a story, 'Trump is a horrible human being, he doesn't pay a bill.' No, I don't like to pay bills when people do a bad job ... [but] they look like nice people, they come from Kenosha." pic.twitter.com/TDvetjCszq— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) November 3, 2020
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 3 November 2020 20:20 (three years ago) link
Am happy to see "YMCA"'s fate sealed. One of the biggest examples of pandering, crossover disco leading to its untimely demise, now being used on the daily amid the political equivalent of the Comiskey Park "disco sucks" rally.
― On average, this critic grades 8.3 points lower than other critics (Eric H.), Tuesday, 3 November 2020 20:34 (three years ago) link
Going with dud
― JoeStork, Tuesday, 3 November 2020 20:46 (three years ago) link
― Give me a Chad Smith-type feel (map), Tuesday, 3 November 2020 20:49 (three years ago) link
Sorry, YMCA scene in Ash is the Purest White it actually rehabilitated the song for me.
― the colour out of space (is the place) (PBKR), Tuesday, 3 November 2020 21:09 (three years ago) link
it
I don't know how long this guy is gonna be here, but omg
(has sound)https://www.earthcam.com/usa/louisiana/neworleans/bourbonstreet/?cam=catsmeow2
― Two Meter Peter (Ste), Tuesday, 3 November 2020 21:24 (three years ago) link
what was it?
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 3 November 2020 22:50 (three years ago) link
oh he's still there, with friends. The drunk guy performing lude acts on the Trump doll in the street. Earlier (and if you scroll down on the page you'll see the Hall of Fame archive pics) consisted of up the arse acts and also some of the stuff he was shouting regarding how does it feel Mister Trump to be fucked by a black guy etc. Fun street act, that kind of thing.
― Two Meter Peter (Ste), Tuesday, 3 November 2020 23:01 (three years ago) link
in the first movie (of how many?) i wonder when barry soetero will be roasting 1term while osama bin laden's execution is underway, the beginning or the end. the middle would just be too melodramatic imho
― reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 5 November 2020 22:32 (three years ago) link
xpost - I don't see anything in the hall of fame photos either.
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 5 November 2020 22:58 (three years ago) link
https://static.earthcam.com/hof/louisiana/neworleans/bourbonstreet/1604435621741_2.jpg
― Two Meter Peter (Ste), Thursday, 5 November 2020 23:10 (three years ago) link
If Q get their own Oliver Stone their JFK is going to be super weird.
― Bidh boladh a' mhairbh de 'n láimh fhalaimh (dowd), Friday, 6 November 2020 00:58 (three years ago) link
their JFK is going to be super weird
Compared to what?
― On average, this critic grades 8.3 points lower than other critics (Eric H.), Friday, 6 November 2020 01:01 (three years ago) link
i'm going with "dead"
― Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Friday, 6 November 2020 03:06 (three years ago) link
I saw someone post that the only way he's getting to 270 is by losing 50.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 6 November 2020 04:30 (three years ago) link
:/
― cointelamateur (m bison), Friday, 6 November 2020 04:33 (three years ago) link
i seen a man die
― Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Friday, 6 November 2020 04:37 (three years ago) link
DUD
― PEnnsylvania 3-5000 (Matt #2), Saturday, 7 November 2020 16:45 (three years ago) link
Did
― dan selzer, Saturday, 7 November 2020 16:57 (three years ago) link
DUN
― sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Saturday, 7 November 2020 17:12 (three years ago) link
I'm going with "done"
― Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Saturday, 7 November 2020 17:42 (three years ago) link
xpost goddammit Tombot
TUMP
― here we go, ten in a rona (onimo), Saturday, 7 November 2020 17:44 (three years ago) link
DUND
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Saturday, 7 November 2020 17:47 (three years ago) link
DUR
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 7 November 2020 17:49 (three years ago) link
can we set this thread on fire, an eternal flame
― Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Saturday, 7 November 2020 17:49 (three years ago) link
DUNG
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 7 November 2020 17:50 (three years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSoOFn3wQV4
― coup de nancy grace (Ye Mad Puffin), Saturday, 7 November 2020 17:59 (three years ago) link
Trump got the entire 2020 experience. He got covid he lost his job and in 2.5 months will be evicted.— HAZE (@HazeStag) November 7, 2020
― lukas, Saturday, 7 November 2020 18:06 (three years ago) link
that is a good tweet
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Saturday, 7 November 2020 18:22 (three years ago) link
― early-Woolf semantic prosody (Hadrian VIII), Saturday, 7 November 2020 18:58 (three years ago) link
so long don
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Saturday, 7 November 2020 18:59 (three years ago) link
this guy sucks imo
― @oneposter (✔️) (sic), Saturday, 7 November 2020 19:22 (three years ago) link
he was always my least favorite bloom county character
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Saturday, 7 November 2020 19:37 (three years ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/8J0M2kQ.jpg
― @oneposter (✔️) (sic), Saturday, 7 November 2020 23:37 (three years ago) link
a one-term impeached president that lost the popular vote twice? I think I'm sticking with dud.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 7 November 2020 23:54 (three years ago) link
On one hand, he's a dud.
On the other hand, he's a dud.
― Allen (etaeoe), Sunday, 8 November 2020 01:26 (three years ago) link
my 3 favorite most classic Trump lies:"Largest inauguration crowd, period". Bam! Right out the gate with the crazy dictator shtick "I meant to say I have no idea why it would NOT be Russia." I wouldn't have the gall to try that type of lie on my cats. "Uhhh I'd say about equal" when asked if was old or new testament guy. The one that consistently makes me burst out laughing.
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Sunday, 8 November 2020 03:25 (three years ago) link
^ yeah, that was the best until Four Seasons Total Landscaping
― @oneposter (✔️) (sic), Sunday, 8 November 2020 03:44 (three years ago) link
2 Corinthians
― Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Sunday, 8 November 2020 03:54 (three years ago) link
"Because I'm a perfect physical specimen and I'm extremely young" <---late entry for funniest imo
― it bangs for thee (Simon H.), Sunday, 8 November 2020 03:55 (three years ago) link
"I meant to say I have no idea why it would NOT be Russia." I wouldn't have the gall to try that type of lie on my cats.
holy shit can't believe I forgot about this
― frogbs, Sunday, 8 November 2020 03:56 (three years ago) link
― Give me a Chad Smith-type feel (map), Sunday, 8 November 2020 05:20 (three years ago) link
I think this was actually a genuine joke, it's just that (as the writers' accounts from his Comedy Central Roast aver) since the only thing he can think or talk about is how great he is, the only type of joke he can make is "slightly exaggerating the type of thing he normally thinks and says about himself"
― @oneposter (✔️) (sic), Sunday, 8 November 2020 05:55 (three years ago) link
"Uhhhh, I'd say about equal" is another one of those jokes Ianucci wishes he could've written
― Fetchboy, Sunday, 8 November 2020 07:24 (three years ago) link
While we're replaying the hits, the quote that sums him up for me is "I am much more humble than you would understand."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1R42mFx3_ss
― here we go, ten in a rona (onimo), Sunday, 8 November 2020 09:20 (three years ago) link
Very good brain
“I’m speaking with myself, number one, because I have a very good brain and I’ve said a lot of things."
― Three Seasons Partial Landscaping (Ye Mad Puffin), Sunday, 8 November 2020 10:33 (three years ago) link
Looking forward to the day when it doesn't even occur to me to look at his twitter, but until then, I will never get over this mewling puke being poster boy for the anti-participation trophies crowd:
71,000,000 Legal Votes. The most EVER for a sitting President!— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 7, 2020
― rob, Sunday, 8 November 2020 13:47 (three years ago) link
would a recount in Texas rub it in a little further.In the right direction and all or not?
― Stevolende, Sunday, 8 November 2020 13:50 (three years ago) link
My favorite Trump bit, which I often quote to myself, because he sounds like he’s reading a Heidecker/Clickhole bit:
Trump talks about "my tall Barron, my beautiful Barron" as an example of COVID not affecting young people. pic.twitter.com/YqVveModk8— The Recount (@therecount) October 15, 2020
― blatherskite, Sunday, 8 November 2020 15:07 (three years ago) link
"they're kids for some reason" is such an amazing sentence
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 8 November 2020 15:20 (three years ago) link
How is kiddo formed
― Three Seasons Partial Landscaping (Ye Mad Puffin), Sunday, 8 November 2020 15:25 (three years ago) link
It was on the news this mroing
― pomenitul, Sunday, 8 November 2020 15:27 (three years ago) link
How was Babbron formed
― Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Sunday, 8 November 2020 15:32 (three years ago) link
how ivanka get pragnent
(Had to, sorry.)
― pomenitul, Sunday, 8 November 2020 15:33 (three years ago) link
"Are you still a believer in Santa? Because at 7, it's marginal, right?"
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Sunday, 8 November 2020 16:12 (three years ago) link
feels so good to start feeling like this circus is almost in the rear view mirror
― global tetrahedron, Sunday, 8 November 2020 16:40 (three years ago) link
Another thing I thought of when he lost, besides "touchable," was this scene in GoodFellas:
https://y.yarn.co/07500a18-7fdd-4085-9133-69ab38734ffd_screenshot.jpg
"And that's that."
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 8 November 2020 19:46 (three years ago) link
No idea when or where I saved this Trump quote from but it's the one that'll stick with me pic.twitter.com/PwIbgzLbN4— henno (@jrhennessy) November 8, 2020
― @oneposter (✔️) (sic), Sunday, 8 November 2020 23:42 (three years ago) link
https://pbs.twimg.com/card_img/1325599323724320768/YUS8xvZ1?format=jpg&name=medium
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 9 November 2020 04:17 (three years ago) link
FLASHBACK: In 2018, President Trump attacked Carrots the turkey for refusing to concede he had lost the vote on the White House turkey pardon contest."This was a fair election... unfortunately, Carrots refused to concede and demanded a recount." pic.twitter.com/MzcackiDwd— andrew kaczynski🤔 (@KFILE) November 23, 2020
― pomenitul, Wednesday, 25 November 2020 01:33 (three years ago) link
theres always a gobble gobble
― discourse stu (m bison), Wednesday, 25 November 2020 03:45 (three years ago) link
Say what you will, he really knows how to answer a question (during a Thanksgiving PR photo op):
https://i.imgur.com/Hiuqorx.jpg
― huge rant (sic), Friday, 27 November 2020 22:41 (three years ago) link
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EokhrQEXYA0u3lO?format=jpg&name=900x900
― calzino, Sunday, 6 December 2020 21:27 (three years ago) link
still classic
― Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Sunday, 6 December 2020 21:28 (three years ago) link
Or worse! https://t.co/a7zbQ4TSD7— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) December 8, 2020
A xmas miracle…or worse!
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 9 December 2020 05:29 (three years ago) link
blast from the past
I've been reading MAGA transcripts for a project. Like this, from a 2018 rally in Great Falls, Montana, for 7,000 people. Realized it's Joycean outsider art – un-self-consciously self-conscious, crude and tedious but weirdly riveting. A 2-minute sample of the hour and a quarter: pic.twitter.com/2dJGnUPEoQ— Kurt Andersen (@KBAndersen) December 8, 2020
― huge rant (sic), Thursday, 10 December 2020 10:12 (three years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_jrebvmPlk
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 15 December 2020 01:57 (three years ago) link
H.L. Mencken would have been obsessed with Trump's rambling impromptu speeches.
― Respectfully Yours, (Aimless), Tuesday, 15 December 2020 04:01 (three years ago) link
June 2019:
What’s the first thing that comes to mind when viewing this photo of the 45th President of the United States? pic.twitter.com/6IyLIHj0IM— Abraxsys (@Abraxsys) December 16, 2020
― early-Woolf semantic prosody (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 16 December 2020 17:40 (three years ago) link
srsly wtf nobody looks like that
― early-Woolf semantic prosody (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 16 December 2020 17:41 (three years ago) link
this is not my beautiful house
― frogbs, Wednesday, 16 December 2020 17:41 (three years ago) link
― The Battle of Taylor Swift's "Evermore" (PBKR), Wednesday, 16 December 2020 17:45 (three years ago) link
man the Goombahs look so much better in the special edition of Super Mario Bros movie
― Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 16 December 2020 21:45 (three years ago) link
it's so hard to imagine trump reading a child a story
― the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 17 December 2020 00:14 (three years ago) link
"Copyright One-thousand ninehundred eighty five, Har-court Brace Jovanovich"
― Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Thursday, 17 December 2020 00:37 (three years ago) link
twistin’ the night away
― obsessed with quality over quantity or the need to produce tracks (breastcrawl), Thursday, 17 December 2020 20:06 (three years ago) link
Is that really trump? It looks like Madame Tussaud's animatronic Andy Rooney.
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 17 December 2020 20:27 (three years ago) link
Classic.
Donald Trump, answering phone call from 7-year-old on Christmas Eve: "Are you still a believer in Santa? Because at seven it's marginal, right?" pic.twitter.com/VHexvFSbQ1— The Daily Beast (@thedailybeast) December 25, 2018
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 25 December 2020 11:57 (three years ago) link
could we please just let Donald rust peacefully elsewhere today?
― Respectfully Yours, (Aimless), Friday, 25 December 2020 19:48 (three years ago) link
People did for eight hours! Thanks for giving that video the love.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 25 December 2020 20:05 (three years ago) link
i gate your mom some love last night
― ffolkes (map), Friday, 25 December 2020 22:02 (three years ago) link
America's most admired man
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/trump-ends-obama-12-streak-180116763.html
― Alba, Wednesday, 30 December 2020 13:38 (three years ago) link
Who is trying to get Americans 2k? Classic!
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 30 December 2020 13:54 (three years ago) link
I don't actually care, but worth noting that the reason Trump finally won the "admired man" title this year is because liberals who have reflexively answered "Obama" for the past 12 years gave Biden a little love this time, thus splitting the vote.
― jaymc, Wednesday, 30 December 2020 16:08 (three years ago) link
other liberal heroes like fauci in that list as well. once again trump benefits from vote-splitting
― trans-panda express (m bison), Wednesday, 30 December 2020 17:22 (three years ago) link
Figures that the reality show star benefits from a reality show convention
― Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 30 December 2020 17:32 (three years ago) link
4% voted for melania
seriously, what is admirable about her? she doesn't even put up christmas decorations in an admirable way
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 30 December 2020 18:19 (three years ago) link
she's pretty and married rich
― frogbs, Wednesday, 30 December 2020 18:33 (three years ago) link
so admirable that those things that happened to her
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 30 December 2020 18:42 (three years ago) link
Congrats to Alec Baldwin, his new wife will be great for him and a gem.— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) July 5, 2012
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 30 December 2020 18:45 (three years ago) link
truly the taco bowl of wives
― Evans on Hammond (evol j), Wednesday, 30 December 2020 19:10 (three years ago) link
she doesn't even put up christmas decorations in an admirable way
Disagree. Her "Christmas - that's when we sacrifice the peasants' children to the Ice God" decorations were the best thing about the Trump White House.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 30 December 2020 19:39 (three years ago) link
Wishing I could put the lid back on the Pandora's Box full of 'people' that my fellow Americans admire.
― Telly Salivas (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 30 December 2020 19:48 (three years ago) link
Almost agree w/ unperson - they would have been, if she'd been public about how much she loathed Christmas.
― shivers me timber (sic), Wednesday, 30 December 2020 19:50 (three years ago) link
Mourning a fellow poster today truly one of the greatest to ever log on RIP— Better things are possible (@InternetHippo) January 8, 2021
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 8 January 2021 23:40 (three years ago) link
We lost Donald Trump's tweets about the Oscars. We lost his tweets about Robert Pattinson. We lost his tweet about how everybody needs to calm down because Ben Affleck will be a great Batman. Laugh and cheer all you want, but this is like the burning of the Library of Alexandria.— Will Sloan (@WillSloanEsq) January 8, 2021
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 8 January 2021 23:47 (three years ago) link
dw i saved my favorite trump tweets before today pic.twitter.com/nRGvEd2MLN— maya kosoff (@mekosoff) January 8, 2021
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 8 January 2021 23:49 (three years ago) link
lolll
― early-Woolf semantic prosody (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 8 January 2021 23:50 (three years ago) link
So many classics:
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 9 January 2021 00:03 (three years ago) link
RIP pic.twitter.com/kauVboaPYs— Alex Press (@alexnpress) January 8, 2021
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 9 January 2021 00:04 (three years ago) link
Lol
https://www.thetrumparchive.com/
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 9 January 2021 00:09 (three years ago) link
Not a patriot.
"The Coca Cola company is not happy with me--that's okay, I'll still keep drinking that garbage."
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 9 January 2021 00:12 (three years ago) link
in memoriam, my all-time fav tweet: pic.twitter.com/4pWDCSxlj8— rex (@oldredtree) January 8, 2021
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 9 January 2021 00:16 (three years ago) link
Someone's telling pokies
― nob lacks, noirish (darraghmac), Saturday, 9 January 2021 00:18 (three years ago) link
pic.twitter.com/fNzZW8b3SV— Lena (@banalplay) January 8, 2021
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 9 January 2021 00:18 (three years ago) link
RIP to the only good poster
― marg bar āmrikā (||||||||), Saturday, 9 January 2021 00:19 (three years ago) link
This is legit his funniest post by a good distance
― early-Woolf semantic prosody (Hadrian VIII), Saturday, 9 January 2021 00:19 (three years ago) link
Yeah that's the one I searched for
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 9 January 2021 00:21 (three years ago) link
preserve this for posterity, it’s the gold standard
FYI this is the funniest letter Trump’s written, to date. He sent it to New York Magazine in 1992. I look forward to more. pic.twitter.com/CSSBHrhWlj— Letters of Note (@LettersOfNote) January 9, 2021
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 9 January 2021 00:30 (three years ago) link
Poetry pic.twitter.com/D97E2ndhsg— Tom James (@TACJ) January 9, 2021
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 9 January 2021 00:34 (three years ago) link
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Saturday, 9 January 2021 01:27 (three years ago) link
Dud. xyzzz is absolutely the poster who would post his "greatest hits" here though.
― dean bad (map), Saturday, 9 January 2021 01:29 (three years ago) link
I’ve been holding my tongue and trying to make up my mind these past five years but coming out of the woodwork to say I’m leaning towards dud.
― Next Time Might Be Hammer Time (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 9 January 2021 01:31 (three years ago) link
Aww give him a chance
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Saturday, 9 January 2021 01:50 (three years ago) link
I feel like I just had a Baby!!!! pic.twitter.com/DUSvWPzgt9— MichaelRapaport (@MichaelRapaport) January 9, 2021
― early-Woolf semantic prosody (Hadrian VIII), Saturday, 9 January 2021 06:21 (three years ago) link
― dean bad (map), Saturday, 9 January 2021 bookmarkflaglink
Plenty of people posting these on the US Pol thread.
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 9 January 2021 12:50 (three years ago) link
Fine ppl on both sides
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 9 January 2021 12:54 (three years ago) link
I can't bring myself to find anything this awful, awful cunt says or does funny, except maybe the coca cola tweet
― SDFG SDFG SDFG SDFG SDFG SDFG SF (stevie), Saturday, 9 January 2021 17:32 (three years ago) link
Here’s a type of thing I’m thinking of a lot forever now pic.twitter.com/DPgRmWxMwM— how doom hold heat and preach nonviolence (@Hegelbon) January 9, 2021
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 9 January 2021 23:27 (three years ago) link
I don't want to actually link to Gab, and I can't find another link, but I watched Trump's response video to the Capitol riot. He sounded the closest thing to chastened I've ever heard him sound, like maybe this hadn't worked out as well for him as he thought it would and he actually recognized it and tried to fake presidentialness way too late.
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Sunday, 10 January 2021 02:35 (three years ago) link
I wonder if there are offers from Parler and Gab to entice Asshole to set up his Twitter replacement on their platforms
― assert (MatthewK), Sunday, 10 January 2021 03:41 (three years ago) link
Maybe not Parler
A message from the CEO of Parler. pic.twitter.com/dRBWEUmlJ6— Jerm (@mynameisjerm) January 10, 2021
― groovypanda, Sunday, 10 January 2021 08:11 (three years ago) link
building bare metal products
― Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Tuesday, 12 January 2021 17:42 (three years ago) link
I don't know why these people can't just do like James Redd, Sr. and excercise their right to free hate speech on holidays and family gatherings.
― Next Time Might Be Hammer Time (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 12 January 2021 17:45 (three years ago) link
is that when the Blecching occurs?
― Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 12 January 2021 17:53 (three years ago) link
Well thanks to Facebook and Twitter every day is Festivus
― Evan, Tuesday, 12 January 2021 17:54 (three years ago) link
Right exactly.
― Next Time Might Be Hammer Time (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 12 January 2021 17:54 (three years ago) link
is that when the Blecching occurs?― Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 12 January 2021 17:53
― Next Time Might Be Hammer Time (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 12 January 2021 17:57 (three years ago) link
These days, leaning toward "dud."
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 12 January 2021 17:59 (three years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWDlE3swBdA
― Next Time Might Be Hammer Time (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 12 January 2021 18:01 (three years ago) link
Trump making milk duds in his pants rn
― Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 12 January 2021 18:16 (three years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZ6v0OBlygQ
― Next Time Might Be Hammer Time (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 12 January 2021 18:43 (three years ago) link
I don't know how I ever thought he would but he has learned NOTHING in the last couple of days.https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jan/12/donald-trump-texas-impeachment-effort
― StanM, Tuesday, 12 January 2021 18:46 (three years ago) link
If he can’t stay in office, he just wants to do as much damage as possible.
― treeship., Tuesday, 12 January 2021 18:46 (three years ago) link
He’s a malevolent person, fundamentally.
― treeship., Tuesday, 12 January 2021 18:47 (three years ago) link
he's a shit cunt
― Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 12 January 2021 18:52 (three years ago) link
Can’t teach an old psychopathic narcissist new tricks, I guess.
― Next Time Might Be Hammer Time (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 12 January 2021 18:54 (three years ago) link
I don't know how I ever thought he would but he has learned NOTHING in the last couple of days.https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jan/12/donald-trump-texas-impeachment-effort🕸
― Boring United Methodist Church (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 12 January 2021 19:30 (three years ago) link
WTF do you even mean "learned"? He wants to be this way.
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Tuesday, 12 January 2021 21:43 (three years ago) link
Exactly. Probably should post that Lily St. Clair twitter thing for the thrid time.
― Next Time Might Be Hammer Time (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 12 January 2021 21:46 (three years ago) link
people need to stop treating him like he's a human being who experiences normal human emotions
― frogbs, Tuesday, 12 January 2021 21:47 (three years ago) link
Lilith Saintcrow, sorry.
― Next Time Might Be Hammer Time (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 12 January 2021 21:48 (three years ago) link
frogbs otm
Still disconcerting, to say the least, to ponder those of his followers that one might know, that seemed to give signs of humanity upon occasion.
― Next Time Might Be Hammer Time (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 12 January 2021 21:49 (three years ago) link
If you’re a reporter or cameramen or sound guy how can you refrain from just yelling “fuck you” whenever he spouts that shit
probably don't want someone showing up outside their kids' elementary school
― frogbs, Tuesday, 12 January 2021 21:53 (three years ago) link
is he happy now?https://www.bostonglobe.com/2021/01/13/nation/us-carries-out-its-1st-execution-female-inmate-since-1953/?p1=Article_Recirc_InThisSection
― StanM, Wednesday, 13 January 2021 07:40 (three years ago) link
Whether Donald Trump is ever happy is an interesting question.
― Alba, Wednesday, 13 January 2021 15:01 (three years ago) link
when he dies, a MAGA supporter is gonna steal the body, stuff him and mount him
― Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 13 January 2021 15:08 (three years ago) link
and is then going to put the stuffed body on their wall
Beat me to the punch there.
― Eggbreak Hotel (Tom D.), Wednesday, 13 January 2021 15:11 (three years ago) link
The Secret of Donnie's Tomb
― stylish but illegal (Simon H.), Wednesday, 13 January 2021 15:12 (three years ago) link
Buried in Trump's ... tomb.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 13 January 2021 15:14 (three years ago) link
His headstone might as well just be a big urinal.
it's pretty much going to be, whether he intends it or not
― Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 13 January 2021 15:15 (three years ago) link
Fake Tomb!
― Next Time Might Be Hammer Time (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 13 January 2021 15:40 (three years ago) link
they should really bury this fucker at sea next to OBL
― Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Wednesday, 13 January 2021 16:19 (three years ago) link
looking forward to the day when we have a poll about what to do with his corpse, think I will vote for it to be flushed down a huge gold toilet
― ٩(͡๏̯͡๏)۶ (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 13 January 2021 16:21 (three years ago) link
― Alba, Wednesday, January 13, 2021 9:01 AM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
It's not happiness as you or I or any other living human would define it, but I'm sure he gets some kind of dopamine rush whenever one of his acts of cruelty bears fruit.
― Looks like I'm gonna be the filling in a missile sandwich! (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 13 January 2021 16:28 (three years ago) link
you mean he jizzes in his pants?
― ٩(͡๏̯͡๏)۶ (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 13 January 2021 16:29 (three years ago) link
Trumppies
― Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 13 January 2021 16:32 (three years ago) link
Abraham Zapruder https://t.co/hKrlDoa1n9— Eric Allen Hatch (@ericallenhatch) January 13, 2021
― pomenitul, Wednesday, 13 January 2021 17:11 (three years ago) link
i don't really care (do u?) if Trump is happy or not but it raises the question of which despots at least seemed to be enjoying themselves in the moment. mussolini appeared to be mostly having a good time!
― the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 13 January 2021 17:19 (three years ago) link
Most of them except Cromwell, who didn't approve of happiness.
― Eggbreak Hotel (Tom D.), Wednesday, 13 January 2021 17:25 (three years ago) link
there's kind of a drug fiend element to the rallies he does. I feel like in 2016 they legitimately made him feel good but now it's kind of a sad charade, even when there's all the applause and chanting of his name it looks like such a pained smile now
― frogbs, Wednesday, 13 January 2021 17:27 (three years ago) link
That'll be the girdle
― prize-winning marconi bakery (Matt #2), Wednesday, 13 January 2021 17:28 (three years ago) link
Hard to waste any more energy on what this monster "thinks" or "feels."
― Next Time Might Be Hammer Time (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 13 January 2021 17:34 (three years ago) link
He lobbied unsuccessfully to change the method of execution from lethal injection to being shot on Fifth Avenue
― alpaca lips now (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 13 January 2021 17:52 (three years ago) link
Yet here we are classic/dudding him year after year and splitting hairs over exactly how much of a fascist he might be.
Suggest cancel.
― new variant (onimo), Wednesday, 13 January 2021 18:36 (three years ago) link
I'm coming down on the side of Dud, personally
― map, Wednesday, 13 January 2021 18:42 (three years ago) link
this is for the historians to decide
― Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Wednesday, 13 January 2021 18:56 (three years ago) link
Sometimes I imagine the party that's going to happen when he croaks. It's really going to be something.
― Pere Legume (the table is the table), Wednesday, 13 January 2021 19:37 (three years ago) link
Classic
Since Trump’s almost out of office, I figured this would be a fun time to remind everyone of the weirdest & dumbest sh*t our failed dictator did in the last four years that we totally forgot about.Starting with a classic:STARING DIRECTLY INTO THE SUN DURING A SOLAR ECLIPSE pic.twitter.com/XtvDltgJsv— Jules Suzdaltsev (@jules_su) January 12, 2021
― groovypanda, Thursday, 14 January 2021 10:53 (three years ago) link
from the obit thread-
Dr. Harold Bornstein, Donald Trump's personal physician from 1980 until early 2018, has passed:
https://www.legacy.com/obituaries/nytimes/obituary.aspx?n=harold-bornstein&pid=197497206
In 2018, Bornstein admitted that Trump dictated the letter:
To Whom My[sic] Concern:I have been the personal physician of Mr Donald J. Trump since 1980. His previous physician was my father, Dr Jacob Bornstein. Over the past 39 years, I am pleased to report that Mr Trump has had no significant medical problems. Mr Trump has had a recent complete medical examination that showed only positive results. Actually, his blood pressure, 110/65, and laboratory test results were astonishingly excellent.Over the past twelve months, he has lost at least fifteen pounds, Mr Trump takes 81 mg of aspirin daily and a low dose of a statin. His PSA test score is 0.15 (very low). His physical strength and stamina are extraordinary.Mr Trump has suffered no form of cancer, has never had a hip, knee or shoulder replacement or any other orthopaedic surgery. His only surgery was an appendectomy at age ten. His cardiovascular status is excellent. He has no history of ever using alcohol or tobacco products.If elected, Mr Trump, I can state unequivocally, will be the healthiest individual ever elected to the presidency.
I have been the personal physician of Mr Donald J. Trump since 1980. His previous physician was my father, Dr Jacob Bornstein. Over the past 39 years, I am pleased to report that Mr Trump has had no significant medical problems. Mr Trump has had a recent complete medical examination that showed only positive results. Actually, his blood pressure, 110/65, and laboratory test results were astonishingly excellent.
Over the past twelve months, he has lost at least fifteen pounds, Mr Trump takes 81 mg of aspirin daily and a low dose of a statin. His PSA test score is 0.15 (very low). His physical strength and stamina are extraordinary.
Mr Trump has suffered no form of cancer, has never had a hip, knee or shoulder replacement or any other orthopaedic surgery. His only surgery was an appendectomy at age ten. His cardiovascular status is excellent. He has no history of ever using alcohol or tobacco products.
If elected, Mr Trump, I can state unequivocally, will be the healthiest individual ever elected to the presidency.
After The New York Times published a report in 2017 in which Dr. Bornstein said he had prescribed Mr Trump with Propecia, an anti-baldness drug, Trump's bodyguards raided Bornstein's office and removed everything related to the President.
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 14 January 2021 15:38 (three years ago) link
trump is really for the birds imho, just the pits no matter how you look at it
― nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Thursday, 14 January 2021 16:00 (three years ago) link
does Bornstein's death seem sinister to anyone else or am I just developing 2021 derangement syndrome?
― Ray Cooney as "Crotch" (stevie), Thursday, 14 January 2021 16:02 (three years ago) link
Nah. He looked about as healthy as "the healthiest individual ever elected to the presidency."
― Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Thursday, 14 January 2021 16:06 (three years ago) link
comrade bonespurs
https://www.defenseone.com/ideas/2021/01/pentagon-wont-throw-traditional-farewell-ceremony-trump/171408/
― reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 14 January 2021 21:25 (three years ago) link
No time, no time; there are prisoners to execute, oil leases to auction, allies to alienate... he's very busy these last days
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 14 January 2021 21:52 (three years ago) link
I got a text from an old work colleague I haven't spoke to in years that went: "that president is so bad I'm going to impeach him TWICE!"
I know it isn't funny but it made me laugh like crazy. it comes from an old work joke to do with someone seeing some daft teenager walking out of Spiderman 2 at the cinema and saying: that film is so bad I'm going to watch it TWICE! So at work it became a running joke, like if say you had some onerous task and the boss/evil overseer/ asked for a progress report like say doing power and lighting circuits in some clustered, hot boiler room all in steel conduit you'd say: this boiler room is so bad I'm going to wire it TWICE!
― calzino, Thursday, 14 January 2021 22:00 (three years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsi5lXxzByU
― John Wesley Glasscock (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 14 January 2021 22:05 (three years ago) link
Overheard Secret Service on @realDonaldTrump at lunch. He ate rice and 2 pieces of cherry pie. Took a few sips of his drink. "He loves rice"— Leigh Ann Caldwell (@LACaldwellDC) October 24, 2017
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 01:12 (three years ago) link
He will only eat his chicken tendies if they’re cut into the shape of a dinosaur
― Dan I., Wednesday, 20 January 2021 01:22 (three years ago) link
2scoops
― assert (MatthewK), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 01:24 (three years ago) link
Trump OTM about rice
― Joe Biden Stan Account (milo z), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 01:27 (three years ago) link
end of an era!
― treeship., Wednesday, 20 January 2021 01:27 (three years ago) link
... thankfully
Mary Trump just affirmed what we all probably guessed, that this (today/tomorrow) is "the worst day of his life."
Good to hear but hoping "so far" is implied
― John Wesley Glasscock (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 01:31 (three years ago) link
i think of modest mouse in this trying time. "god who'd want to be, god who'd want to be such an asshole."
― treeship., Wednesday, 20 January 2021 01:32 (three years ago) link
― satanist of size (map), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 02:10 (three years ago) link
Farewell to the weirdest guy I have ever seen. pic.twitter.com/zjyyr44N8O— Luke Mones (@LukeMones) January 19, 2021
― John Wesley Glasscock (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 02:14 (three years ago) link
beyond the 'weirdness' those clips portray many signature moves of a bully and demagogue. they mostly seem weird to people who don't respond with adoration to all those cues.
― Respectfully Yours, (Aimless), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 02:19 (three years ago) link
That video is gross
― Dan S, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 02:27 (three years ago) link
that is because of the content
― the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 03:28 (three years ago) link
ctrl+f "Trump" on Google News homepage yields 27 hits. 4 of the 6 "Headlines" entries have his name in the headline.― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, June 11, 2019 4:58 PM (two months ago) bookmarkflaglink27 hits for "Trump" again today wtf― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, June 25, 2019 7:27 AM (one month ago) bookmarkflaglink40 now!― A True White Kid that can
― A True White Kid that can
It's down to 8 now yesssssssss
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 28 January 2021 17:46 (three years ago) link
Trump 'happier' now that he's off social media: former aide https://t.co/e3AF1TzunK pic.twitter.com/Uo5AAWmllR— New York Post (@nypost) February 7, 2021
― Zach_TBD (Karl Malone), Sunday, 7 February 2021 18:56 (three years ago) link
tragic news
― Left, Sunday, 7 February 2021 18:56 (three years ago) link
that's basically the first time ever something (allegedly) coming from trump has been in the ballpark of relatable
― Washington Generals D-League affiliate (will), Sunday, 7 February 2021 18:58 (three years ago) link
Trump "very sorry" after "cooling down for a bit", "didn't know what happened back there", says former aide
― Zach_TBD (Karl Malone), Sunday, 7 February 2021 19:03 (three years ago) link
narcissism, megalomania & steroids. the worst Simon and Garfunkel album.
― Compromise isn't a principle, it's a method (Aimless), Sunday, 7 February 2021 19:29 (three years ago) link
https://www.rawstory.com/trump-dementia/
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Tuesday, 16 February 2021 20:36 (three years ago) link
Bannon seems to age 5 years with each new photo I see of him, so I beg of you please paparazzi - keep photographing him.
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 16 February 2021 20:39 (three years ago) link
Nice kicker at the end of that story.
"Bannon realized that Trump was repeating the same stories over and over again... and Bannon wanted to do something about it," Rosen explained, adding that Bannon believed he could take over the right-wing movement from Trump.
― Compromise isn't a principle, it's a method (Aimless), Tuesday, 16 February 2021 20:50 (three years ago) link
Occasionally I will think 'lol, remember the time everyone laughed at Bannon because he wore two shirts like an idiot' and then I'll see a picture of Bannon and remember 'oh no, wearing two shirts like an idiot is what he does literally all the time'.
Again, no one who didn't live through this era will believe half of the recounted details about this era.
― The Mandolinrainian (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 16 February 2021 21:06 (three years ago) link
“He’s said that not being on social media, and not being subject to the hateful echo chamber that social media too frequently becomes, has actually been good,” Miller told the outlet.
I dont believe theres even a ghost of a chance that he would say something like that. Imho the reason for:
it’s been “the first time in years that I saw the president truly relaxed,” Miller told the paper
is that Trump hated being president so. fucking. much.
― nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Tuesday, 16 February 2021 21:33 (three years ago) link
Trump hated being president so. fucking. much.
Yet he didn't resign from the job, and when he lost the election he spent months desperately trying to hold onto the job, capping it all by committing serious crimes in plain view, all so he wouldn't be forced to leave the job he hated. so. fucking. much.
― Compromise isn't a principle, it's a method (Aimless), Tuesday, 16 February 2021 21:38 (three years ago) link
Both can be true. He hated it but he needed it because it was his shield from prosecution and the taxman and dealing with his debt, and it was the best grift he'd ever lucked into.
― Motoroller Scampotron (WmC), Tuesday, 16 February 2021 21:43 (three years ago) link
WmC otmfm
― Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 16 February 2021 21:46 (three years ago) link
And he loved doing the rallies (as long as they were full.)
― Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 16 February 2021 21:47 (three years ago) link
Nice kicker at the end of that story."Bannon realized that Trump was repeating the same stories over and over again... and Bannon wanted to do something about it," Rosen explained, adding that Bannon believed he could take over the right-wing movement from Trump.
sorry, I read these posts as being about Ba*rr*on. not sure if I'm relieved or disappointed now.
― Long Tall Arsetee & the Shaker Intros (breastcrawl), Tuesday, 16 February 2021 22:00 (three years ago) link
none of that is because he liked "the job", in fact he pretty much avoided working whenever possible
― frogbs, Tuesday, 16 February 2021 22:02 (three years ago) link
like the power and fame, hate the job
― Zach_TBD (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 16 February 2021 22:04 (three years ago) link
In sum, Donald Trump is a land of many contrasts.
― Compromise isn't a principle, it's a method (Aimless), Tuesday, 16 February 2021 22:07 (three years ago) link
Apparently they block PornHub in the WH and Trump was none too pleased with that
― Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 16 February 2021 22:28 (three years ago) link
don’t forget that he toyed with the idea of not even moving into the WH in the first place, he was so grossed out by it.
the stuff he liked about the gig (the title, rallies, being treated like a kingmaker, getting free money from doing crimes) he still has access to postpresidency. The stuff he clearly loathed about it (being in away from his luxury properties, having to occasionally see ppl he didn’t know and listen to stuff he didn’t care about) he doesn’t have to deal with anymore. I’ve got no doubt he’s overjoyed that he never has to set foot in the WH for at least the next 4 years.
― nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Tuesday, 16 February 2021 23:29 (three years ago) link
The shield from prosecution/taxman and grift are so far down the list of reasons he disputed the election (#s 98-100). IIRC the first 97 reasons are "to shield my massively fragile ego".
― Rocky Thee Stallion (PBKR), Tuesday, 16 February 2021 23:45 (three years ago) link
Yeah I don’t believe he has any serious thought that he is at risk of prosecution or jail time, I don’t think that factors into his thinking at all
― nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Tuesday, 16 February 2021 23:51 (three years ago) link
After all the shit he put us through, we deserve to read this statement. A “Detox”-level lost masterpiece. pic.twitter.com/yaYglz6pwv— Ian Cohen (@en_cohen) February 16, 2021
― scampless, rattled and puce (gyac), Wednesday, 17 February 2021 00:27 (three years ago) link
Yeah, I'm not sure Trump should really be ridiculing anyone else's appearance.
― Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 17 February 2021 00:39 (three years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnizDJxzlv0
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 17 February 2021 14:15 (three years ago) link
(sorry, thought it would work)
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 17 February 2021 14:16 (three years ago) link
- Donald Trump
― That's not really my scene (I'm 41) (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 17 February 2021 16:25 (three years ago) link
finally removing bookmark from this thread after 4 years
― if you meh them, shut up (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 17 February 2021 21:11 (three years ago) link
Fitting, because Trump has never read a book.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 17 February 2021 21:49 (three years ago) link
And the walls came a-tumblin' down
LOOK: The Trump Plaza Hotel and Casino in Atlantic City is demolished. The hotel has been closed since 2014 pic.twitter.com/qniUzxp8Nk— Bloomberg Quicktake (@Quicktake) February 17, 2021
― The Mandolinrainian (Old Lunch), Thursday, 18 February 2021 18:06 (three years ago) link
https://www.washingtonian.com/2021/02/19/trump-hotel-employees-tell-all-what-it-was-really-like-serving-right-wing-elite
― StanM, Friday, 19 February 2021 21:34 (three years ago) link
lotta pull quotes there
― That's not really my scene (I'm 41) (forksclovetofu), Friday, 19 February 2021 21:40 (three years ago) link
It contains the sentence: “The splatter just missed the President’s son.”
― Long Tall Arsetee & the Shaker Intros (breastcrawl), Friday, 19 February 2021 22:04 (three years ago) link
i came to post that link, glad to see Stan got to it already.
rich ppl's need to be fawned over by service industry workers is so pathetic and tacky.
also pathetic and tacky: https://www.washingtonian.com/2021/01/19/yep-donald-trump-only-visited-one-dc-restaurant-in-four-years/
― davey, Saturday, 20 February 2021 20:30 (three years ago) link
Pouring Diet Coke like vintage champagne...
― "what are you DOING to fleetwood mac??" (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 20 February 2021 20:33 (three years ago) link
"A tray of junk food needed to be available for every Trump visit: Lay’s potato chips (specifically, sour cream and onion), Milky Way, Snickers, Nature Valley Granola Bars, Tic Tacs, gummy bears, Chips Ahoy, Oreos, Nutter Butters, Tootsie Rolls, chocolate-covered raisins, and Pop-Secret."
fuckin pathetic tasteless loser asshole
― davey, Saturday, 20 February 2021 20:38 (three years ago) link
i'm still not over it... to know a man could have all the wealth and power in the world, and choose to live this way... to go so far beyond previously known limits of vacuous tastelessness... it must be parody, yet it is indisputable fact and my mind cannot accept it...
― davey, Saturday, 20 February 2021 21:16 (three years ago) link
Tbh was having similar thoughts.
It truly is like a stupid child's fantasy of what being rich must be like, tbh. The candy, the soda poured out like champagne, extra desserts...
― it's like edging for your mind (the table is the table), Saturday, 20 February 2021 21:19 (three years ago) link
yes. my thoughts turn to the simulation hypothesis. this might be the thing that finally convinces me.
― davey, Saturday, 20 February 2021 21:23 (three years ago) link
the whole thing's a Buñuel film, i'm convinced
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 20 February 2021 21:26 (three years ago) link
It's Home Alone except Kevin is stuck in his home, alone, for 60 years and essentially remains a feral eight-year-old the whole time.
― The Mandolinrainian (Old Lunch), Saturday, 20 February 2021 22:37 (three years ago) link
May be a good time to clear out for Cancun.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/20/politics/trump-cpac-republican-party/index.html
― clemenza, Sunday, 21 February 2021 00:28 (three years ago) link
(we don't have nor necessarily yet need a DJTJ thread, so this'll go here)
This looks and sounds like an extremist video posted from a bunker of undisclosed location pic.twitter.com/LNWmiUN96I— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) February 21, 2021
I like how all the guns are pointed at his head.
― "what are you DOING to fleetwood mac??" (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 21 February 2021 20:05 (three years ago) link
Y'all probably saw already, but Two Scoops The Younger got roasted on Twitter earlier this week for blaming the Texas Ice Disaster on the incompetent leadership of our DEMOCRAT governor.
― "what are you DOING to fleetwood mac??" (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 21 February 2021 20:12 (three years ago) link
Good news for the guy here who wanted the tax returns.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/22/politics/supreme-court-trump-taxes-vance/index.html
― clemenza, Monday, 22 February 2021 14:46 (three years ago) link
Hope those tax returns get released before this clown of a crook runs for president.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 22 February 2021 15:04 (three years ago) link
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/feb/27/donald-trump-cpac-speech-2021
Wow it's gonna be really kewl and unexpected when he starts talking about how the election was stolen from him.
― pomenitul, Sunday, 28 February 2021 15:43 (three years ago) link
Morris Day did it better pic.twitter.com/GNfSUSp9gB— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) March 1, 2021
― "what are you DOING to fleetwood mac??" (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 2 March 2021 02:42 (three years ago) link
More and more, I don't subscribe to the idea that the 2024 nomination is his if he wants it. Three points:
1) (I may have said this on another thread) Politicians are hyper-driven by ambition. The idea that all these people dying to run will just step aside down the road doesn't comport with human nature, whether or not he decides to himself.
2) Neither party has given the nomination to a previous general-election loser since Nixon in '68, and that was kind of a perfect storm of events (much like Trump in '16 was). They just don't do it anymore--you get your chance and that's it, you win or you're gone.
3) As Cuomo's present meltdown attests to yet again--the Cuomo who less than a year ago was the VP-in-waiting if he wanted it (with even murmurs of a emergency nomination)--the cliché that "(x amount of time) is a lifetime in politics" is a cliché for a reason. You could list dozens and dozens of examples from recent history. (Reading about the flameout of John Connally in Reaganland right now.)
So I think that, while Trump will be meddlesome and influential in whoever is the nominee, and that nominee could be just as bad and maybe even worse (hard to imagine, but looking at Greene and Hawley, who knows), I don't think it'll be Trump, even if he does run.
― clemenza, Tuesday, 2 March 2021 17:49 (three years ago) link
If MTG becomes the GOP nominee for president in my lifetime, that will mark the official end of my lifetime.
― Chokeslamming A Memory (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 2 March 2021 17:53 (three years ago) link
Why kill yourself just because other people want to kill you? Kind of seems like cutting off your life to spite your life.
― it's like edging for your mind (the table is the table), Tuesday, 2 March 2021 18:00 (three years ago) link
Something more like
https://thumbs.gfycat.com/AcceptableBothImago-max-1mb.gif
― Chokeslamming A Memory (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 2 March 2021 18:05 (three years ago) link
clemenza makes several cogent and valid points, but regarding...
Politicians are hyper-driven by ambition. The idea that all these people dying to run will just step aside down the road doesn't comport with human nature, whether or not he decides to himself.
It was only a short time ago, in 2015, when HRC managed to convince large numbers of her potential rivals that it would be futile to challenge her bid for the nomination, so all of them but Bernie decide to sit 2016 out.
― Judge Roi Behan (Aimless), Tuesday, 2 March 2021 19:54 (three years ago) link
true but there's a difference between HRC, an incredibly intelligent person who was First Lady, a US Senator, and then Secretary of State, and Trump, who has zero experience and understands basically nothing. Dems still believe that experience & tenure matter and that's why they put up candidates like Hillary and Biden - Republicans believe in nothing but punishing people they don't like, so any candidate who is thoroughly hated by the left has a shot
― frogbs, Tuesday, 2 March 2021 20:03 (three years ago) link
Trump is still basking in the glow of his failed presidency - his fans are by and large not big GOP supporters, they'll follow him anywhere but don't really care about party machinations.
But I wouldn't put it past him - an early announcement of his intention to run again. It's a way to raise money and organize massive super spreader events, to drop coy one liners, to attack his perceived enemies... his greatest joys in life.
― Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 2 March 2021 20:16 (three years ago) link
I honestly don't think he even cares if he wins as long as he can keep up four more years of rapturous applause at his rallies. That devotion is the shit he feeds off of.
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 2 March 2021 20:19 (three years ago) link
if he can keep up for two more election cycle, that could bring him home -- to the end of his natural lifetime. he will spend it basking in applause and truly believing he is the greatest man in history
― treeship., Tuesday, 2 March 2021 20:21 (three years ago) link
by this point the southern district will have finally prepared their case, they'd be ready to bring charges. but alas!
xpost He'll just claim victory anyway... he gets to be the 'winner' without having to do the actual job.
― Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 2 March 2021 20:22 (three years ago) link
Did I see right that the C-Pac straw poll put him at 55% or so? Even as the avatar of the GOP, a month after people stormed the capital in his name, he could barely squeak out a majority of support.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 2 March 2021 20:22 (three years ago) link
yeah by 2024, the storming of the capitol will have receded. some conservatives are still revolted by it or say they are but that will die down over time.
― treeship., Tuesday, 2 March 2021 20:23 (three years ago) link
everything just fades away with this guy
I genuinely believe that even with his diet and lifestyle, unless he goes to prison, he will be with us well into his nineties. If by some miracle he goes to prison, he won't serve a full year before croaking it.
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 2 March 2021 20:23 (three years ago) link
who knows. he almost died of coronavirus which indicates to me he isn't super healthy.
― treeship., Tuesday, 2 March 2021 20:25 (three years ago) link
I think that only proves my point, not even COVID could knock him off, evil stagnates and keeps the husk alive. Look at Kissinger.
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 2 March 2021 20:27 (three years ago) link
Trump getting the 2024 nom would be an unmitigated disaster for the GOP. maybe pre-insurrection I could see it happening, but he's banned from all social media and even FOX won't carry his ramblings most of the time. I don't know if people's opinions of him will soften over time but I think as things return somewhat to "normal" over the next year the idea of going back to the way things were in 2020, a year so fucking awful that it became a meme onto itself, is going to be seen as thoroughly insane. You know those movies where a bunch of crooks & con artists pull off a scheme that relies on so many little things going right, only to attempt it AGAIN and fail miserably as virtually none of the same conditions apply anymore? That would be Trump in 2024.
― frogbs, Tuesday, 2 March 2021 20:31 (three years ago) link
Yes but Americans hate themselves and they want to suffer.
― treeship., Tuesday, 2 March 2021 20:34 (three years ago) link
I'm going to go out on a limb and predict these social media bans aren't going to be "forever", as much as we'd like them to be. And if he became a serious contender and/or got the nomination, he'd be back on every single one of them with lots of hemming and hawing about "learned lesson", "equal time", "newsworthy" and every other manner of bullshit excuse whomever is running Twitter and Facebook by then will trot out.
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 2 March 2021 20:35 (three years ago) link
Business Insider: Donald Trump will only "pretend" to run for president in 2024 in order to raise money before dropping out, his niece Mary Trump predicted.
"I think he's going to pretend to, for sure," Mary Trump said of her uncle running for president again.
"Think about how much money he's made off the big lie the last few months. He's made more money since President Biden won the election than I think he has in his entire life. So I don't think he's going to let that grift go quite so soon."
She predicted that her uncle would not become the GOP nominee in 2024 because he would fear losing.
"There's no way that he is going to put himself in the position of losing again," she said. "The problem is the Republican Party seems determined to continue to keep him legitimate, which is the really scary part."
Sounds about right.
― Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 2 March 2021 20:51 (three years ago) link
they already made the decision to ban a sitting President. they might play dumb but they're aware he'll never "learn his lesson" and we all know he's going to spend every single public appearance for the rest of his life repeating the same lies that led to him getting banned in the first place. banning him because he was a threat to our nation but then allowing him back on because he has the chance to become a threat to our nation again would be a disaster for them. they've already absorbed the PR hit from the right.
― frogbs, Tuesday, 2 March 2021 20:56 (three years ago) link
"There's no way that he is going to put himself in the position of losing again," she said.
Thank you, Mary Trump, for this reassuring insight.
― Judge Roi Behan (Aimless), Tuesday, 2 March 2021 20:57 (three years ago) link
banning him because he was a threat to our nation but then allowing him back on because he has the chance to become a threat to our nation again would be a disaster for them.
Yes because, if nothing else, Facebook and Twitter are both notoriously known for always doing the right thing.
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 2 March 2021 21:03 (three years ago) link
has nothing to do with what's right, it would be bad for their bottom line
― frogbs, Tuesday, 2 March 2021 21:08 (three years ago) link
Look, I don't want to ever entertain the idea of that guy's thoughts being forced on me from any site, but I don't think it's going to be as much of a blow to their bottom line as you might think, at least not three years in the future.
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 2 March 2021 21:19 (three years ago) link
Presuming he can't and won't win a general election, I actively like the idea of him freezing other candidates out. Cruz, Cawthorne, and company absolutely can't run if T is also on the ballot. No one can ever be Trumpier than Trump. So a primary race of him vs. an antiTrump MittBot would be a blowout, but the general would be a different ballgame.
― chillin' like Emperor Maximilian (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 2 March 2021 23:07 (three years ago) link
Democrats should be thrilled he's not going gently into the night; he's done more damage to the GOP than anyone in history, let him finish this important work.
― Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 2 March 2021 23:15 (three years ago) link
That historically damaged GOP still controls many state governments, has 50 US senators and it gained seats in the House in the 2020 election. The storming of the US Capitol will more likely than not be a faded memory of small import in the 2022 elections, in part because it hasn't been hammered at by the media or denounced by Biden on a daily basis to keep it fresh as a rallying cry.
― Judge Roi Behan (Aimless), Tuesday, 2 March 2021 23:24 (three years ago) link
Having Trump on the ballot was great for the GOP overall; but I don't know that Trump fans will give a rat's ass about ballots that he doesn't appear on.
― Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 2 March 2021 23:31 (three years ago) link
I could easily imagine Cruz trying to weasel his way into the nomination, even if Trump ran, as only Cruz can.
"Look, folks--we all love Donald. We know what he's done for the party, for our country, for our world. The simple fact is, he can't win. Not because he shouldn't win, but because more than half the country hates him. They shouldn't hate him, they should love him--we know that--but because of the media, they can never know the Donald we know. To correct that, I offer myself as a humble stand-in. Let's you, me, and the spirit of Donald Trump go forward and scale heights we never knew possible. Let's do this--let's Make MAGA Great Again."
(Also known as MMAGAGA, not to be confused with Lady Gaga.)
― clemenza, Tuesday, 2 March 2021 23:31 (three years ago) link
Xp to AndytG, hat is a fair point
― wake me up before you cuomo (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 2 March 2021 23:32 (three years ago) link
Cawthorne won't be old enough to run for President until 2032
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 3 March 2021 00:06 (three years ago) link
CAWTHORN 2032
- Granny Dainger
― grab bag cum trash bag (sic), Wednesday, 3 March 2021 00:26 (three years ago) link
Hopefully he won't make it to that age.
― it's like edging for your mind (the table is the table), Wednesday, 3 March 2021 02:54 (three years ago) link
I think it’s safe to once again say: Classic
Former President Trump is releasing statements that read like tweets on letterhead. pic.twitter.com/bGJaaRvPzf— Yamiche Alcindor (@Yamiche) March 10, 2021
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 11 March 2021 00:34 (three years ago) link
Like the aging high school quarterback watching old films of his salad days: "I was something else! Hope they don't forget... "
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 11 March 2021 01:05 (three years ago) link
"(often referred to as...)"--like riding a bike.
― clemenza, Thursday, 11 March 2021 01:09 (three years ago) link
it's so strange that he actually could take a teeny weeny bit of credit for the fast development of vaccines but 1) he doesn't and 2) his moron followers don't trust the vaccine that he could be taking some credit for. Because of dumb stuff they read on the internet. Such a ridiculous unforced error on his part.
― tobo73, Thursday, 11 March 2021 01:59 (three years ago) link
He really wanted this out there to breathe new life into 'China Virus'.
― "what are you DOING to fleetwood mac??" (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 11 March 2021 02:28 (three years ago) link
Hah, like there is such a thing as an unforced error in trumpworld.
The followers don't have any trouble holding contradictory positions as long as all of them can be spun to be laudatory of the god-emperor.
1. The virus is a dangerous bioweapon intentionally unleashed by the wily Chinese Communists to destroy our precious way of life. Only Trump with his manly manliness was able to do the right thing and stand up to those godless bastards with his prescient travel ban. MAGA!
2. The virus is actually not that big a deal, the flu kills way more people anyways. And Democrat health officials are classifying deaths from car accidents as COVID deaths, just to obtain more control. Only Trump with his excellent brain could tell that it was an overblown threat ginned up by evil Fauci and the Deep State to control the lives of our noble patriots. MAGA!
3. The virus would have been a WAY more serious threat, had it not been for the lightning-fast rapid vaccine development enabled by Trump's quick thinking and excellent brain. Had he not acted as he did, millions would be dying in the streets. Thanks, DJT! MAGA!
4. Vaccines are a crock; we should all have been taking hydroxychloroquinine with a bleach chaser and a sunlight enema long ago, and everything would be fine. But the lying deep state pedophiles like Fauci, who are in league with AOC and the FAKE NEWS MEDIA, don't want you to know that. Because they want to control every aspect of your lives. Only Trump with his excellent brain could see through the establishment's lies and see the Truth. MAGA!
There's really no problem believing all these things simultaneously as long as they all end with MAGA!
― wake me up before you cuomo (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 11 March 2021 02:31 (three years ago) link
You’re right but if he had done a better job taking credit for the vaccine maybe he could have attracted some non-true-believers. Wouldn’t have been that hard to do but he was just too lazy or undisciplined.
― tobo73, Thursday, 11 March 2021 02:50 (three years ago) link
I wish journalists would stop helping Trump get around his Twitter ban.
― Motoroller Scampotron (WmC), Thursday, 11 March 2021 13:43 (three years ago) link
someone on twitter determined that this new missive fits just under the current 280 character limit
― global tetrahedron, Thursday, 11 March 2021 14:37 (three years ago) link
WmC otm
― Red Nerussi (Neanderthal), Thursday, 11 March 2021 16:09 (three years ago) link
― map ca. 1890 (map), Thursday, 11 March 2021 17:16 (three years ago) link
I love that I'm only now learning about this press release, a day on.
― Alba, Thursday, 11 March 2021 20:28 (three years ago) link
idk I think journalists are spending the appropriate amount of time on Trump right now, you barely hear him mentioned on the news lately (outside of "the previous administration really fucked this up"), something like this really should get the spotlight as a reminder of how absolutely pathetic the entire GOP is
― frogbs, Thursday, 11 March 2021 20:31 (three years ago) link
Yeah but why won't the lamestream media remind everybody that he personally OK'd the vaccinations' creation? (Even though they're actually Soros/Antifa microchips?)
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 11 March 2021 20:34 (three years ago) link
Tussaud’s Waxworks in San Antonio removes Trump figure because people keep punching it
― "Salvation Army FUCK!" (Neanderthal), Thursday, 18 March 2021 19:55 (three years ago) link
lol, that looks nothing at all like him.I'm deeply disappointed that they didn't include a picture with its face mashed in.
― Clem McFlannery's Clam Phlegm Cannery (Old Lunch), Thursday, 18 March 2021 20:14 (three years ago) link
wanna see that video i made of trump and the hall of presidents a few years ago again? might as well, it took me 2349087234-8723-4032q950-98238q24-0q239489-231098432=0-94823-0948u23-0948123-0948123-0948123 years to make\\
https://vimeo.com/248242009
― Zach_TBD (Karl Malone), Thursday, 18 March 2021 21:32 (three years ago) link
2349087234-8723-4032q950-98238q24-0q239489-231098432=0-94823-0948u23-0948123-0948123-0948123
#notaNFT
― Zach_TBD (Karl Malone), Thursday, 18 March 2021 21:36 (three years ago) link
https://www.instagram.com/p/CMnBwidFAZ3/?igshid=1k8lfguzipuwh
The acrylic lectern is so on brand for a guy whose brain stopped working in 1986.
― Joe Bombin (milo z), Friday, 19 March 2021 18:38 (three years ago) link
looks like he's running for condo board treasurer in that pic, strong morty seinfeld vibes
― nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Friday, 19 March 2021 19:13 (three years ago) link
its kind of surreal seeing all these sad photos of him in half-empty ballrooms at Mar-a-Lago, I still cannot believe that fucking guy was President
― frogbs, Friday, 19 March 2021 19:22 (three years ago) link
...surrounded by a slew of John Waters' films extras.
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 19 March 2021 19:26 (three years ago) link
― map ca. 1890 (map), Friday, 19 March 2021 19:28 (three years ago) link
Former President Donald Trump's Mar-a-Lago resort has closed its dining room and suspended beach club services to guests due to a Covid-19 outbreak among "some" staff, according to an email sent to members Friday afternoon and shared with CNN.The email says the closure is out of "an abundance of caution."Banquet and event services remain open, the email says, adding: "We have already undertaken all appropriate response measures in accordance with CDC guidance, including activating a thorough sanitization and cleaning of any affected areas and all club facilities, and we will continue our heightened environmental cleaning regimen."
The email says the closure is out of "an abundance of caution."
Banquet and event services remain open, the email says, adding: "We have already undertaken all appropriate response measures in accordance with CDC guidance, including activating a thorough sanitization and cleaning of any affected areas and all club facilities, and we will continue our heightened environmental cleaning regimen."
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Saturday, 20 March 2021 02:28 (three years ago) link
https://happymag.tv/trump-wax-figure-removed-from-museum/?fbclid=IwAR3W-YKduZCOF8l2JYwqX7zwZo4pmt_4x7qSE7tuV5psUH8Q0pN68x8_EGk
― We’re Up All Night To Get Lochte (Raymond Cummings), Saturday, 20 March 2021 17:18 (three years ago) link
fbclid=IwAR3W-YKduZCOF8l2JYwqX7zwZo4pmt_4x7qSE7tuV5psUH8Q0pN68x8_EGk
― armoured van, Holden (sic), Saturday, 20 March 2021 17:28 (three years ago) link
fbclid=IwARdudduddud3W-YKduZCOF8l2JYwqX7dudduddudduddudduddudzwZo4pmt_4x7qSE7tuV5dudduddudpsUH8Q0pN68x8_EGdudduddudk
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 20 March 2021 17:59 (three years ago) link
https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/21/media/donald-trump-social-media-network/index.html
"Completely redefine the game"--in a downward direction, I assume, if that's even possible.
― clemenza, Sunday, 21 March 2021 18:58 (three years ago) link
Today in Things That Will Never Happen...frankly, I'm surprised he didn't say it would be coming "in about two weeks".
― but also fuck you (unperson), Sunday, 21 March 2021 19:29 (three years ago) link
― treeship., Sunday, 21 March 2021 19:35 (three years ago) link
Facst? Nzi Prty?
― "what are you DOING to fleetwood mac??" (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 21 March 2021 19:46 (three years ago) link
call me naive, but i think it's going to happen. it may suck and immediately fall apart, or it may actually attract a bunch of people. it makes too much sense for it not happen, especially given that everyone involved is either desperate for money or desperate to throw money at things.
the more interesting thing, i think, will be what they'll do when all fascists and militia groups establish their presence (on day 1, i'd guess). i would assume that any trump social network will do zero "moderation". so what does that mean when he's hosting stormfront?
― Zach_TBD (Karl Malone), Sunday, 21 March 2021 19:51 (three years ago) link
Same--with all that money out there just waiting to be milked, I'd be surprised if they didn't at least get it off the ground. I'm interested in how much attention is paid to it by CNN and such. If there's little or none, I expect Trump would quickly lose interest.
― clemenza, Sunday, 21 March 2021 19:59 (three years ago) link
StrmFrnt?
― "what are you DOING to fleetwood mac??" (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 21 March 2021 20:00 (three years ago) link
this will collapse if the apple app store doesn't host it. this means it will have to commit to certain moderation standards, which means that trump would not be able to speak freely on the app the way he once did on twitter.
― treeship., Sunday, 21 March 2021 20:22 (three years ago) link
Patriots use Goya phones
― Zach_TBD (Karl Malone), Sunday, 21 March 2021 20:27 (three years ago) link
Ban the apple ecosystem!
― Zach_TBD (Karl Malone), Sunday, 21 March 2021 20:28 (three years ago) link
If it's anything at all, it'll be a knockoff Gab with Trump's name stamped on it (big shiny gold logo) and one of the least attractive user bases in media. Smaller, too, because every time a high-profile account migrates from one platform to another they lose a sizable percentage of followers just due to attrition. I guarantee Trump has no idea how much of a money sink social media networks are in general (Twitter wasn't profitable until 2019, and both revenues and profits have declined since) and will lose interest incredibly rapidly if any of his own money is at risk.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Sunday, 21 March 2021 20:43 (three years ago) link
i would guess he's less in it for the money and more for having a platform where people pay attention to him and he can guarantee that any critical voice will be outnumbered
― Zach_TBD (Karl Malone), Sunday, 21 March 2021 20:45 (three years ago) link
if i die in the next few months, it is likely because i got mad at the world and decided to go on to trumpballs.com to troll the ted cruz posts
― Zach_TBD (Karl Malone), Sunday, 21 March 2021 20:46 (three years ago) link
what the hell even is this?
This is a real statement released tonight by former President Trump in its entirety pic.twitter.com/gB61je1mg9— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) March 27, 2021
― Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Saturday, 27 March 2021 01:07 (three years ago) link
when he's right, he's right
― armoured van, Holden (sic), Saturday, 27 March 2021 02:10 (three years ago) link
Uh, there is, in fact, a Durham Report:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Durham_Report
― pomenitul, Saturday, 27 March 2021 02:13 (three years ago) link
Maybe we should ask the guy who appointed Durham. Or the guy who appointed that guy. Oh... right.
It's not the flex you think it is when you ask about the reality and/or existence of one of your former employees. Just sayin.
"Was I a complete imbecile, completely unsuited to my job? Why yes, I was! Someone should do something about that!"
― calzone layer (Ye Mad Puffin), Saturday, 27 March 2021 02:21 (three years ago) link
The big guy wandered into a wedding reception and toasted the happy couple:
“Y’know, I just got, I turned off the news, I get all these flash reports, and they’re telling me about the border, they’re telling me about China, they’re telling me about Iran—how’re we doing with Iran, howdya like that? Boy, they were ready to make a deal, they woulda done anything, they woulda done anything, and this guy goes and drops the sanctions and then he says, ‘We’d love to negotiate now,’ ‘We’re not dealing with the United States at all,’ oh, well, they don’t want to deal with us. And China, the same thing, they never treated us that way, right? You saw what happened a few days ago, was terrible, and uh, the border is not good, the border is the worst anybody’s ever seen it, and what you see now, multiply it times 10, Jim — he’s the only one I know who would handle the border tougher than me. We have to, and the tough is... in the most humanitarian way, because that’s what it is. What’s happening to the kids, they’re living in squalor, they are living like nobody has ever seen anybody, there’s never been anything like what’s, and you’re gonna have hundreds, and you have it now, they have the airplane photos, the shocks, and they call ’em shocks, and these things are showing thousands and thousands of people coming up from South America and it’s gonna be, it’s just uh, look, it’s a disaster. It’s a humanitarian disaster from their standpoint, and it’s gonna destroy the country, and frankly, the country can’t afford it because you’re talking about massive, just incredibly massive amounts. Our school systems, our hospital systems, everything. So it’s a rough thing, and I just say, ‘Do you miss me yet?’ We did get 75 million votes, nobody’s ever gotten that. They said, ‘Get 66 million votes, sir, and the election’s over.’ We got 75 million and they said... but you know, you saw what happened, 10:30 in the evening, all of a sudden I said, ‘That’s a strange thing, why are they closing up certain places, right?’ Now, a lot of things happening right now, I just wanted to say, it’s an honor to be here, it’s an honor to have you at Mar-a-Lago, you are a great and beautiful couple.”
Nailed it.
― armoured van, Holden (sic), Monday, 29 March 2021 02:44 (three years ago) link
imagine not being able to quickly skim through that speech. i guess when you attend a wedding at mar-a-lago, you know what the possibilities are
― Zach_TBD (Karl Malone), Monday, 29 March 2021 02:54 (three years ago) link
We have to, and the tough is... in the most humanitarian way, because that’s what it is. What’s happening to the kids, they’re living in squalor, they are living like nobody has ever seen anybody, there’s never been anything like what’s, and you’re gonna have hundreds, and you have it now, they have the airplane photos, the shocks, and they call ’em shocks
― You Can't Have the Woogie Without a Little Boogie (Old Lunch), Monday, 29 March 2021 03:02 (three years ago) link
if you have your wedding at maralago you fucking deserve this imo
― G.A.G.S. (Gophers Against Getting Stuffed) (forksclovetofu), Monday, 29 March 2021 03:52 (three years ago) link
oh definitely
― Zach_TBD (Karl Malone), Monday, 29 March 2021 05:16 (three years ago) link
this is no slight against DSA, but it's like getting married at DSA Headquarters in Marxville, New Marxston
home to some of the greatest comrades i have come across
― Zach_TBD (Karl Malone), Monday, 29 March 2021 05:17 (three years ago) link
Like a ZX81 that got connected to the internet and it fried its every circuit
― anecdotal certainly but not nothing (stevie), Monday, 29 March 2021 08:18 (three years ago) link
His latest press release explains how he saved all our lives by ignoring both Fauci and Birx, and you can tell they were both wrong because Fauci didn't trust Birx and requested not to be part of press conferences with her. Also he is bad at throwing a baseball. Time has now proved Trump's COVID response was the correct one.
― armoured van, Holden (sic), Tuesday, 30 March 2021 05:55 (three years ago) link
https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/30/media/donald-trump-website-launch/index.html
My site, which I've had for 20+ years, is on Tripod--wish this had been there, or even better, Angelfire.
― clemenza, Wednesday, 31 March 2021 02:10 (three years ago) link
Is this the “social media platform” they said he was going to reveal??? Hahahaha
― akm, Wednesday, 31 March 2021 02:12 (three years ago) link
no
― Zach_TBD (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 31 March 2021 02:13 (three years ago) link
No. Before the next one redefines social media, this one's going to redefine homepages.
Nice touch by CNN: "The website, 45office.com, comes after Trump's ban from social media sites in the aftermath of the January Capitol insurrection."
"Trump's ban from social media sites" gets a link, and "aftermath of the January Capitol insurrection" gets a link, but "45office.com" doesn't.
― clemenza, Wednesday, 31 March 2021 02:14 (three years ago) link
if it weren't for the aftershocks from his bullshit that we'll be experiencing for years to come, I'm kinda already at the point where the last four years feel like a weird fever dream rather than something that could ever possibly have actually happened.
― You Can't Have the Woogie Without a Little Boogie (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 31 March 2021 02:54 (three years ago) link
yea I saw the wedding toast and my brain had trouble reconciling the fact that that clearly brain damaged man was just President of the United States
― frogbs, Wednesday, 31 March 2021 02:55 (three years ago) link
that clearly brain damaged man was just President of the United States
and he consistently enjoyed job approval ratings in the near vicinity of 40%
― Judge Roi Behan (Aimless), Wednesday, 31 March 2021 02:59 (three years ago) link
and 74 million people voted for his re-election despite the fact that he demonstrably fucked up every single aspect of his job and failed to deliver on a single campaign promise other than "I will pay less taxes"
― frogbs, Wednesday, 31 March 2021 03:08 (three years ago) link
the last four years feel like a weird fever dream rather than something that could ever possibly have actually happened
I've experienced this feeling many times the past few weeks when I see some stray item about Trump.
― clemenza, Wednesday, 31 March 2021 03:22 (three years ago) link
https://morbotron.com/gif/S01E02/1156215/1161637/IEZpbmUsIEknbGwgZ28gYnVpbGQgbXkKIG93biB3ZWJzaXRlIHdpdGgKIGJsYWNramFjayBhbmQgaG9va2Vycy4KIEluIGZhY3QsIGZvcmdldCB0aGUKIHdlYnNpdGUgYW5kIHRoZQogYmxhY2tqYWNrLg==
― "what are you DOING to fleetwood mac??" (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 31 March 2021 03:31 (three years ago) link
https://morbotron.com/gif/S01E02/1156215/1161637.gif?b64lines=IEZpbmUsIEknbGwgZ28gYnVpbGQgbXkKIG93biB3ZWJzaXRlIHdpdGgKIGJsYWNramFjayBhbmQgaG9va2Vycy4KIEluIGZhY3QsIGZvcmdldCB0aGUKIHdlYnNpdGUgYW5kIHRoZQogYmxhY2tqYWNrLg==
― "what are you DOING to fleetwood mac??" (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 31 March 2021 03:32 (three years ago) link
President Joe Biden will not call for a wealth tax to help pay for his multitrillion-dollar Build Back Better initiative, according to multiple people familiar with the White House’s thinking. In doing so, he will sidestep a proposal that progressive Democrats, led by Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.), say would raise trillions of dollars in revenue and narrow income inequality.
― armoured van, Holden (sic), Wednesday, 31 March 2021 03:44 (three years ago) link
according to multiple people familiar with the White House's thinking, who are very eager to have their version of the "White House's thinking" aired in the press, for reasons that shall not be examined very closely because journalists do not bite the hands that feed them
― Judge Roi Behan (Aimless), Wednesday, 31 March 2021 03:51 (three years ago) link
fbclid=youarepostinginthewrongthread
― akm, Wednesday, 31 March 2021 14:22 (three years ago) link
"45office.com" is unbelievably funny.
― Meet me at the corner of Haile and Selassie (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 31 March 2021 14:49 (three years ago) link
it does sound like he's selling printer paper and staples
― G.A.G.S. (Gophers Against Getting Stuffed) (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 31 March 2021 15:08 (three years ago) link
Is he going to build his own Oval Office replica?
― jmm, Wednesday, 31 March 2021 15:12 (three years ago) link
Agreed. Guy has spent his entire life building up the "Trump" brand, and this is what he picks for his blog's domain?
― beard papa, Wednesday, 31 March 2021 19:06 (three years ago) link
Gonna assume that squatters already bought up all the domains he would've preferred. And god bless every one of them.
― You Can't Have the Woogie Without a Little Boogie (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 31 March 2021 19:27 (three years ago) link
Visitors to the former president's website can also request a personalized greeting from the president and the First Lady, or request that the Trumps attend an event. Due to the high number of requests, the greetings page says it will take up to six weeks for processing.As for having the Trumps attend an event, the website said it there would be no status updates "due to the volume of requests President and Mrs. Trump receive. Requests must note if media will be present and if there will be any notable attendees."
As for having the Trumps attend an event, the website said it there would be no status updates "due to the volume of requests President and Mrs. Trump receive. Requests must note if media will be present and if there will be any notable attendees."
Cameo For Cucks. You Love To See It.
― "what are you DOING to fleetwood mac??" (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 31 March 2021 19:42 (three years ago) link
i'm surprised there is no section for tweetlike missives from trump
― treeship., Wednesday, 31 March 2021 20:05 (three years ago) link
like a "newsreel"
I’m imagining 45Office is just a shitty(er) version of Microsoft’s Office365.
― In on the killfile (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 31 March 2021 21:41 (three years ago) link
Like you get a red squiggle under every line of text that's coherent or grammatically-correct or free of deeply racist subtext.
― You Can't Have the Woogie Without a Little Boogie (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 31 March 2021 21:44 (three years ago) link
lol 45office.com has to just be a wordpress template
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 31 March 2021 21:48 (three years ago) link
cameo
Yes?
https://en.wikipedia-on-ipfs.org/I/m/Cameo_2016.jpg
― calzone layer (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 31 March 2021 21:55 (three years ago) link
Whoops
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/31/nyregion/trump-vance-investigation.html?smid=tw-share
State prosecutors in Manhattan investigating former President Donald J. Trump and the Trump Organization have subpoenaed the personal bank records of the company’s chief financial officer and are questioning gifts he and his family received from Mr. Trump, according to people with knowledge of the matter.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 31 March 2021 22:39 (three years ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/MdgqZ6F.png
― Zach_TBD (Karl Malone), Monday, 5 April 2021 03:12 (three years ago) link
Where/in what form was that, uh, published?
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Monday, 5 April 2021 03:14 (three years ago) link
yeah, i don't even know. it was a "written statement". he made issued some other blowhard statement the other day via the Save America PAC, so maybe them again
― Zach_TBD (Karl Malone), Monday, 5 April 2021 03:29 (three years ago) link
echoes of his famous "even the haters and losers" tweet, but he's clearly not in top form anymore.
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Monday, 5 April 2021 04:47 (three years ago) link
He’s hiding his Diet Coke bottle behind the phone a day after telling everyone to boycott Coca-Cola! https://t.co/K2is5hpl7o pic.twitter.com/idDtVtkBeM— Josh Billinson (@jbillinson) April 5, 2021
― StanM, Tuesday, 6 April 2021 05:43 (three years ago) link
OMG that plane's headed straight for Mount Rushmore
― nashwan, Tuesday, 6 April 2021 10:09 (three years ago) link
hehe. also: glasses. plus, is that newspaper hiding something?
― StanM, Tuesday, 6 April 2021 10:43 (three years ago) link
The newspaper is hiding 3 McRibs.
― epistantophus, Tuesday, 6 April 2021 13:02 (three years ago) link
Looks like right before the picture was taken Asshole told other Asshole "ok, take a step back. No, one more step. OK, just one more ..." And then at the last minute Miller creeped one step closer again, to stay in the frame.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 6 April 2021 13:09 (three years ago) link
I was just wondering:
Does Donald Trump, as of April 2021, have any political agenda, other than to protect and perhaps enrich himself?
He was considered, from say 2016-2021, as the leader of a populist far-right / proto-fascist turn in world politics. He enacted, I think, bad and dangerous policies. You would normally expect such a figure to be continually pushing a policy agenda by whatever means.
But is Trump? Or is he merely shoring himself up (what happened to all the claims about prosecutions he would face after leaving office?), or merely trying to make maximum cash -- with no real political agenda beyond that?
― the pinefox, Saturday, 10 April 2021 23:31 (three years ago) link
His only agenda is promoting himself, preferably enriching himself also in the process. That should be abundantly clear by now.
― sharpening the contraindications (Aimless), Saturday, 10 April 2021 23:43 (three years ago) link
IDon’t Care
― In on the killfile (Boring, Maryland), Saturday, 10 April 2021 23:48 (three years ago) link
Aimless: wouldn't that, then, be good news? As it would mean that he doesn't have any particular interest in promoting far right policies?
― the pinefox, Sunday, 11 April 2021 09:40 (three years ago) link
(what happened to all the claims about prosecutions he would face after leaving office?)
yeah i‘ve been wondering about that myself
― groovemaaan, Sunday, 11 April 2021 13:00 (three years ago) link
he's promoting the far right policies still to stoke up his followers to stave off repercussions from his presidency, to grift them and also because he's a racist and a fucking terrible human being
― anecdotal certainly but not nothing (stevie), Sunday, 11 April 2021 13:13 (three years ago) link
_ (what happened to all the claims about prosecutions he would face after leaving office?)_yeah i‘ve been wondering about that myself
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 11 April 2021 13:35 (three years ago) link
This in and of itself would be enough for headaches but there’s whatever the Fulton County DA in Georgia is considering, while the wider DOJ look into January 6 is a story of increasing focus on various superseding indictments on particular participants. And for all we know there’s other stuff being looked at quietly.
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 11 April 2021 13:37 (three years ago) link
They're all going to pull a Mueller and indict a bunch of b-listers and goons but not the big guy.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 11 April 2021 13:40 (three years ago) link
It seems like Trump has the GOP tied up in knots right now. This feels like a good thing. They are in the “can’t live with him, can’t live without him” stage. Of course, this could all change at a moment’s notice. Or... he could be the wrench in McConnell’s works for the next several years. I, for one, hope the GOP finally is getting to the point where they regret, and really start paying for, having hitched their wagons to his cult of personality.
― epistantophus, Sunday, 11 April 2021 14:53 (three years ago) link
There will be no regrets as long as the tax cuts and court packing are in effect.
― Fetchboy, Sunday, 11 April 2021 15:08 (three years ago) link
I hope all the members of the GOP die fiery deaths.
― it's like edging for your mind (the table is the table), Sunday, 11 April 2021 15:26 (three years ago) link
― It Is Dangerous to Meme Inside (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 11 April 2021 15:46 (three years ago) link
New: Former President Trump attacked Mitch McConnell as a "dumb son of a bitch" in his speech at the RNC donor retreat tonight, per an attendee.— Shane Goldmacher (@ShaneGoldmacher) April 11, 2021
― global tetrahedron, Sunday, 11 April 2021 15:51 (three years ago) link
Already trying to thread the needle there
https://www.axios.com/trump-gop-party-asa-hutchinson-54217032-186b-426d-b50b-3635c0a0b205.html
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 11 April 2021 15:54 (three years ago) link
Dud.
― pomenitul, Sunday, 11 April 2021 16:00 (three years ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/U3IDa8l.png
(at cpac on feb 28)
― Zach_TBD (Karl Malone), Sunday, 11 April 2021 16:16 (three years ago) link
Welp, there went my breakfast
― You Can't Have the Woogie Without a Little Boogie (Old Lunch), Sunday, 11 April 2021 16:30 (three years ago) link
that's just your old breakfast now
― Zach_TBD (Karl Malone), Sunday, 11 April 2021 16:30 (three years ago) link
look deeply into his eyes and remember your breakfast
― Zach_TBD (Karl Malone), Sunday, 11 April 2021 16:31 (three years ago) link
I know King Turd has his diehard fans, but seriously, is there really a significant group of even the GOP that wishes this guy were louder and more visible? It feels like such a relief to only have to deal with his shit by choice. Wanting things back the way things were just a few months ago would be like getting over a bad case of food poisoning but wishing you still had diarrhea.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 11 April 2021 17:05 (three years ago) link
🐦[New: Former President Trump attacked Mitch McConnell as a "dumb son of a bitch" in his speech at the RNC donor retreat tonight, per an attendee.— Shane Goldmacher (@ShaneGoldmacher) April 11, 2021🕸]🐦
― In on the killfile (Boring, Maryland), Sunday, 11 April 2021 17:36 (three years ago) link
Trump only has ever cared about himself. He wants the attention, he wants it to all be about him. When he was president, he of course helped the GOP reach some of their goals, but only in so far as it benefitted him to do so. But now what can he do for the GOP? Only make noise, distract, get involved where he’s not wanted, and actively backstab GOP leadership as they attempt to move on. But he’s losing his grip on at least a portion of his base, which means he’s losing his power over GOP leadership. He’s back to being all talk now, and frustrated over not being able to use his preferred channels and reach the same scale of audience. I can only see him continuing to lash out and attack any and all targets even if it won’t benefit himself beyond just saving a little face over being unwanted, a loser and a pariah.
― epistantophus, Sunday, 11 April 2021 17:36 (three years ago) link
Aimless: wouldn't that, then, be good news?
I take it as better than most of the alternatives. The critical thing so far has been the removal of his Twitter account. He has no method of amplifying his momentary thoughts and he's too lazy to find and learn a more difficult tool. How he rose to the presidency in face of his universal incompetence is an insoluble mystery.
― sharpening the contraindications (Aimless), Sunday, 11 April 2021 17:39 (three years ago) link
I'm waiting for him to do an arena tour. I liked the recent David Roth tweet, too, where he predicted that a commercial starring Trump seems inevitable, and inevitably (even if very much in character) super tacky.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 11 April 2021 17:41 (three years ago) link
his being banned from twitter a few months ago instead of a decade ago does help explain at least some of his success
― new display name (Left), Sunday, 11 April 2021 17:55 (three years ago) link
The internet's greatest researcher, Ashley Feinberg, has mapped out what the former guy's days look like when CPAC isn't on:
https://www.trashberg.com/p/what-exactly-is-trump-doing-at-mar
― bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Sunday, 11 April 2021 18:58 (three years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAkZT_4vL_Y
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 11 April 2021 19:57 (three years ago) link
if you don’t click we’ll blow up a hospital https://t.co/URDQGfsuPL— the women of kilgore trout’s office (@KT_So_It_Goes) April 26, 2021
― blue whales on ambient (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 26 April 2021 17:59 (two years ago) link
Don't not click "yes" if you think we should kill this puppy.
Click "no" if you don't want us to not kill this puppy.
Are we clear?
― Jurassic parkour (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 26 April 2021 18:18 (two years ago) link
My parents' neighbors STILL have their Trump/Pence sign up. But they used black electrical tape to block out Pence. Feels like they're not quite ready to abandon Trump just yet.
― Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Monday, 26 April 2021 18:36 (two years ago) link
The one time leader of the free world who now lives alone in a hotel sharing buffets, common areas, and staff with strangers, yearns for attention and relevance so badly, he now stands on a patio step every night ranting to tens of people about a 6 month old election that he lost pic.twitter.com/xIuZ7jAkZD— Mystery Solvent (@MysterySolvent) April 30, 2021
― bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Saturday, 1 May 2021 04:25 (two years ago) link
...and then he brought down the house with a killer rendition of "Kokomo".
― blue whales on ambient (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 1 May 2021 05:15 (two years ago) link
Seeing all the stuff about the 10th anniversary of killing Bin Laden, and then remembering when in '19 Two-Scoops & Co. managed to fuck up their victory lap after nailing the head ISIL guy.
― blue whales on ambient (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 2 May 2021 03:00 (two years ago) link
Hard not to think about the damage done with that fake vaccine plot when tracking him down.
― JoeStork, Sunday, 2 May 2021 03:28 (two years ago) link
I'll randomly remember some crazy/idiotic thing about Trump. Like yesterday I thought about the whole John Barron thing. Hilarious! One of about 1000 things that on their own should've made him an utter laughingstock to 100% of people.
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Sunday, 2 May 2021 15:28 (two years ago) link
RTF--random Trump flashbacks--will probably be officially classified as a psychological disorder one day.
― clemenza, Sunday, 2 May 2021 15:30 (two years ago) link
remember, while the world was panicking at the outset of a global pandemic, when he suggested during a press conference that we should look into getting light or bleach inside our bodies to kill viruses? good times.
― Draymond is "Mr Dumpy" (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 2 May 2021 20:04 (two years ago) link
― assert (MatthewK), Sunday, 2 May 2021 20:09 (two years ago) link
Covfefe All the wayA cove who is like double iron, yeah hardman like
― Stevolende, Sunday, 2 May 2021 22:20 (two years ago) link
does he have anything other than insults on his new FromTheDeskOf thing? Very presidential and dignified.
― StanM, Wednesday, 5 May 2021 07:50 (two years ago) link
It’s funny that it took over four months for his crack team of programmers to build this.
― treeship., Wednesday, 5 May 2021 11:46 (two years ago) link
They have six more months to perfect it.
― clemenza, Wednesday, 5 May 2021 13:27 (two years ago) link
before we're all dead?
― Filibuster Poindexter (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 5 May 2021 13:32 (two years ago) link
https://www.cnn.com/business/live-news/facebook-trump-decision-05-05-21/index.html
― clemenza, Wednesday, 5 May 2021 13:46 (two years ago) link
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
― burnt hombre (stevie), Wednesday, 5 May 2021 15:07 (two years ago) link
no private corporation should have that much control over speech etc etc etc but
― global tetrahedron, Wednesday, 5 May 2021 16:09 (two years ago) link
Not that I have any faith in Zuckerberg doing the right thing, ever, unless basically forced to, but I appreciated this from the above link:
Notably, the board also told Facebook it needed to consider several other measures, including “a comprehensive review of Facebook’s potential contribution to the narrative of electoral fraud and the exacerbated tensions that culminated in the violence in the United States on January 6.”The board said such a review “should be an open reflection on the design and policy choices that Facebook has made that may allow its platform to be abused.”
The board said such a review “should be an open reflection on the design and policy choices that Facebook has made that may allow its platform to be abused.”
― epistantophus, Wednesday, 5 May 2021 16:33 (two years ago) link
let's not forget this classic holiday post
https://img.washingtonpost.com/rf/image_480w/2010-2019/WashingtonPost/2016/05/05/National-Politics/Images/trump-taco-bowl1462484641.jpg
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 5 May 2021 16:47 (two years ago) link
design and policy choices that Facebook has made that may allow its platform to be abused
the Facebook board of directors faces the problem and forcefully covers it with mush.
― sharpening the contraindications (Aimless), Wednesday, 5 May 2021 17:40 (two years ago) link
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E0pqfSdXoAEDi1z.jpg
― pomenitul, Wednesday, 5 May 2021 22:43 (two years ago) link
One for the 'marketing of femininity' thread.
― pomenitul, Wednesday, 5 May 2021 22:45 (two years ago) link
what is #trump2037?
― Zach_TBD (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 5 May 2021 22:53 (two years ago) link
xpost https://thecarnivoreproject.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8345295c269e20153909b1f29970b-800wi
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 5 May 2021 22:54 (two years ago) link
Like the existence of a Trump dildo in our fallen world doesn't surprise me exactly but it still very much makes me want to not be alive anymore.
― Slime Goobody (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 5 May 2021 23:41 (two years ago) link
(NOT FOR MEN)
― Wayne Grotski (symsymsym), Wednesday, 5 May 2021 23:46 (two years ago) link
nah, i am happy that he is a novelty sex toy type celebrity now and not president
― treeship., Wednesday, 5 May 2021 23:48 (two years ago) link
https://washingtoncitypaper.com/article/396593/barack-obama-dildo-could-ruin-sex-obama-for-you/
― bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Thursday, 6 May 2021 00:37 (two years ago) link
Don’t you both sides me.
― pomenitul, Thursday, 6 May 2021 00:48 (two years ago) link
You’re right, that totally ruined Sex Obama for me.
― epistantophus, Thursday, 6 May 2021 00:55 (two years ago) link
You'll want to wash it in between both sides.
― bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Thursday, 6 May 2021 01:01 (two years ago) link
It's NOT FOR ME(N) though.
― pomenitul, Thursday, 6 May 2021 01:02 (two years ago) link
You just have to be more gentle next time. Sex Obama is delicate.
― Evan, Thursday, 6 May 2021 01:02 (two years ago) link
Melania asked for Sex Obama, and look where that got us...
― blue whales on ambient (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 6 May 2021 01:13 (two years ago) link
Note: Diet Coke is NOT an effective lubricant.
― Triumph of the Willa Cather (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 6 May 2021 13:59 (two years ago) link
#Trump2024Handslide
― Long Tall Arsetee & the Shaker Intros (breastcrawl), Thursday, 6 May 2021 14:43 (two years ago) link
xpost things that you were shockingly old when you learned?
― Feta Van Cheese (Neanderthal), Thursday, 6 May 2021 14:49 (two years ago) link
The attempts by Trump's team to come back from deplatforming are objectively not going well. People are not engaging with the posts. Deplatforming works. pic.twitter.com/Yj9PgzM6BF— Brandy Zadrozny (@BrandyZadrozny) May 6, 2021
― jaymc, Thursday, 6 May 2021 14:51 (two years ago) link
They should try defenestration next.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 6 May 2021 14:53 (two years ago) link
Surprised at the zero pins. Surely neo-fascist crafters are a thing.
― Joe Bombin (milo z), Thursday, 6 May 2021 15:28 (two years ago) link
lmao at the fact that this "ultimate free speech" platform does not allow you to interact with his posts at all
― frogbs, Thursday, 6 May 2021 16:06 (two years ago) link
"Engagements" is throwing me--not marriage proposals, I hope.
― clemenza, Thursday, 6 May 2021 16:12 (two years ago) link
Is he ... is he aware that Medina Spirit is a horse? pic.twitter.com/K5SImeNgpL— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) May 9, 2021
― blue whales on ambient (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 10 May 2021 22:14 (two years ago) link
Angry sore loser hollers into the void
― Andy the Grasshopper, Monday, 10 May 2021 22:21 (two years ago) link
So glad Twitter deplatformed him just so people like Rupar can just smear his feces all over the platform anyway.
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 11 May 2021 00:39 (two years ago) link
Ehh i think it’s fine when he says something completely insane and idiotic like this
― frogbs, Tuesday, 11 May 2021 00:45 (two years ago) link
it's also one thing he's said in five months of mostly being silent
― Feta Van Cheese (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 11 May 2021 00:50 (two years ago) link
due to deplatforming.
― Feta Van Cheese (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 11 May 2021 00:51 (two years ago) link
yeah, and trump's audience and rupar's don't exactly have the biggest overlap xp
― Clay, Tuesday, 11 May 2021 00:51 (two years ago) link
― Van Halen dot Senate dot flashlight (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 11 May 2021 01:29 (two years ago) link
"Junky horses, ruining the country..."
― blue whales on ambient (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 11 May 2021 01:37 (two years ago) link
tbh the owner saying the horse was a victim of "cancel culture" and then Trump calling the horse a "junky" is objectively hilarious, I'm sorry
― frogbs, Tuesday, 11 May 2021 02:44 (two years ago) link
Get this jokey off my back
― Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Tuesday, 11 May 2021 13:23 (two years ago) link
The whole world is laughing at us regarding our Kentucky Derby policies?
― BrianB, Tuesday, 11 May 2021 14:05 (two years ago) link
the world is always laughing at us about something. That's why we bomb it.
― Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Tuesday, 11 May 2021 14:09 (two years ago) link
Eh, Rupar is just the latest example though. It's not egregious, no, but there were a few of those Trump obsessed liberal dudes that tweet 400 times an hour that had been breathlessly repeating even those weird statements he issued from Mar-A-Lago.
I guess it's less Rupar's specific instance here than it is a fear that this is just the tip of the iceberg. It's not like Trump is going to stop saying stupid, insane shit and I could live perfectly fine without the, "hey you guys just gotta check out what he said now!" shit.
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 11 May 2021 14:12 (two years ago) link
I was going to vociferously agree with jon and then I realized we were both making this stand on a thread called "Donald Trump: Classic Or Dud?" and realized that maybe there were some complicity factors on our parts that were helping to ruin our day
― 80's hair metal , and good praise music ! (DJP), Tuesday, 11 May 2021 14:17 (two years ago) link
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 11 May 2021 14:21 (two years ago) link
more like Aaron Pupar amirite
― Feta Van Cheese (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 11 May 2021 14:22 (two years ago) link
I was wondering what more might be happening Weisselberg-wise and it turns out
https://www.wsj.com/articles/prosecutors-seek-cooperation-of-trump-confidante-subpoena-manhattan-private-school-11620921963
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 13 May 2021 16:57 (two years ago) link
The CEO of my old company once arranged to pay for a lavish dinner for my wife and I while we were on vacation - at a place I didn't really want to eat. I found the whole thing showy and annoying (meal and experience of it being comped).
When I got back, our CFO told me I owed taxes on the dinner because it was compensation.
― Deicide at Chuck E. Cheese (PBKR), Thursday, 13 May 2021 17:53 (two years ago) link
classy
― Draymond is "Mr Dumpy" (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 15 May 2021 22:34 (two years ago) link
NEW: NY AG’s office tells CNN — “We have informed the Trump Organization that our investigation into the organization is no longer purely civil in nature. We are now actively investigating the Trump Organization in a criminal capacity, along with the Manhattan DA.”— Ana Cabrera (@AnaCabrera) May 19, 2021
― parenthetically yours, (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 19 May 2021 02:35 (two years ago) link
As my brother said just earlier today, "it's like he's a mafia figure."
― sharpening the contraindications (Aimless), Wednesday, 19 May 2021 02:37 (two years ago) link
Surely Ol' Donny Trump won't be able to wriggle his way put of THIS jam!
― Sarah Jessica Parkour (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 19 May 2021 10:48 (two years ago) link
I only care about this insofar as it might prevent him from running in 2024. I don’t want the country to go through another season of that show.
― treeship., Wednesday, 19 May 2021 11:27 (two years ago) link
I'm sure most Canadians would have found this headline as disconcerting as I did:
https://www.cnn.com/2021/05/19/politics/bedminster-mar-a-lago-donald-trump/index.html
Happily, "north" = Bedminster, New Jersey.
― clemenza, Wednesday, 19 May 2021 13:13 (two years ago) link
Over the weekend, Trump finished well enough in a members' tournament to nab a trophy, said one of the members.
"Give the fat fuck another trophy or we'll never hear the end of it."
― but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 19 May 2021 13:19 (two years ago) link
not one to do the "i read somewhere..." thing w this clown, but did anyone else see where ppl thought he was going to tough it out in florida bc desantis has some sort of override wrt NYS/non-FLA-issued subpoenas?
― Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Wednesday, 19 May 2021 13:28 (two years ago) link
I remember ppl speculating that. i never really bought it myself - i dont think hes concerned about the investigations at all
― nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Wednesday, 19 May 2021 13:51 (two years ago) link
I don't think he's concerned about *anything* at all.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 19 May 2021 13:59 (two years ago) link
I think he understands - at some sub-ganglionic level - that the more prosecuted he is, the more persecuted he can paint himself. And that always plays well with the MAGAhats. "See? SEE? The corrupt swamp keeps coming after me because I pose a threat to them!"
Given that there will almost certainly never be consequences for his behavior (see Access Hollywood, Impeachment One, and Impeachment Two: Electoral Boogaloo), why should he behave any differently?
Investigations and lawsuits have always been in the offing and have never delivered, but they're great fodder for grift - the more investigations there are, the more fundraising appeals he can make to his followers. Plenty of Cletuses out there eager to sell a kidney so they can donate to the Trump Legal Defense Fund. Own the libs!
― balsamic panic (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 19 May 2021 14:00 (two years ago) link
Again, MAGAnauts are more likely to be a Chad than a Cletus, fwiw.
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 19 May 2021 14:40 (two years ago) link
ok Chadney McMaga III
― balsamic panic (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 19 May 2021 14:48 (two years ago) link
Not picking on you, just tired of the shorthand for his supporters being dumb Southerner types when it's probably more likely to be an upper middle class dude who owns three car dealerships.
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 19 May 2021 14:51 (two years ago) link
The Bocephurati strike again
― Feta Van Cheese (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 19 May 2021 15:23 (two years ago) link
It’s all kinds of ppl. He was a popular guy.
― treeship., Wednesday, 19 May 2021 15:24 (two years ago) link
"was"
― remind me not to read the comments on that one (Matt #2), Wednesday, 19 May 2021 15:28 (two years ago) link
Donald Trump was a popular guy and he still is
― Feta Van Cheese (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 19 May 2021 15:30 (two years ago) link
fair point, jon, thanks for the corrective
― balsamic panic (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 19 May 2021 15:39 (two years ago) link
It's just a pet peeve of mine, I just think the lazy shorthand of Trump supporters as slack-jawed yokels does a disservice by removing focus from just how many of them are actually in positions of power and influence, which is all the more insidious. It also irks me with the lazy stereotyping implied that all rural people are morons.
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 19 May 2021 15:41 (two years ago) link
Point taken. I am happy to go on record as despising all Trump supporters: rural, suburban, richer, poorer, smart, and less-smart.
― balsamic panic (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 19 May 2021 15:51 (two years ago) link
It’s maybe kind of trite to say so but that tweet/video posted itt a while ago about trump living alone in a hotel and coming out every night to rant about the stolen election to like a dozen ppl really is like the end of a Scorsese movie
― Pfizer the pharma chip (wins), Wednesday, 19 May 2021 15:52 (two years ago) link
or Godfather III (if we're lucky)
― Feta Van Cheese (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 19 May 2021 15:52 (two years ago) link
isn't The Irishman basically about an ex-president who refuses to accept he lost?
― rob, Wednesday, 19 May 2021 15:56 (two years ago) link
There's a new book about the Secret Service - one allegation had it that Melania stayed in Trump Tower after his inauguration not just for Barron's sake, but to renegotiate the pre-nupt agreement; i.e., you want me to move to DC and play first lady, talk to my lawyer.
― Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 19 May 2021 16:24 (two years ago) link
This the same book that says Tiffany and Junior McCokehead's ex-wife had affairs with secret service agents?
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 19 May 2021 16:27 (two years ago) link
Talk about "secret service," am I right?
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 19 May 2021 16:29 (two years ago) link
An ex-Taoiseach who refuse to accept he's lost surely?
― Are Animated Dads Getting Hotter? (Tom D.), Wednesday, 19 May 2021 16:48 (two years ago) link
one allegation had it that Melania stayed in Trump Tower after his inauguration not just for Barron's sake, but to renegotiate the pre-nupt agreement; i.e., you want me to move to DC and play first lady, talk to my lawyer.
I thought reports at the time said this?
― treeship., Wednesday, 19 May 2021 17:17 (two years ago) link
That's ancient history at this point, but I don't remember it ever being officially "reported" more just rumor, no?
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 19 May 2021 17:39 (two years ago) link
Maybe yeah but this book also seems to be based in hearsay.
― treeship., Wednesday, 19 May 2021 17:40 (two years ago) link
Poor Trump, despised by his own wife.
― treeship., Wednesday, 19 May 2021 17:41 (two years ago) link
say what now?
― In my house are many Manchins (WmC), Wednesday, 19 May 2021 17:44 (two years ago) link
Poor Trump, despised by his own wife every person with a shred of respect for the truth or compassion for the victims of his numerous crimes, his ceaseless bullying, and his vindictiveness**.
**It is unclear where Melania might fit into these categories.
― sharpening the contraindications (Aimless), Wednesday, 19 May 2021 17:50 (two years ago) link
i know people here hated when we talked about this but one thing that was definitely very funny was how clearly Melania despised him. she's an awful person too but still
― frogbs, Wednesday, 19 May 2021 17:52 (two years ago) link
I just hated the memes (which idk if they ever appeared here) that said shit like "Blink twice if you need help, Melania", because 'spousal abuse is funny'.
― Feta Van Cheese (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 19 May 2021 17:54 (two years ago) link
https://www.cnn.com/2021/05/19/politics/bedminster-mar-a-lago-donald-trump/index.htmlHappily, "north" = Bedminster, New Jersey.
He's made his Bedminster. Now let him shit in it.
― balsamic panic (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 19 May 2021 18:01 (two years ago) link
Obama’s strongest remark, Dovere reports, was prompted by reports that Trump was speaking to foreign leaders – including Vladimir Putin, amid the investigation of Russian election interference and links between Trump and Moscow – without any aides on the call.
“‘That corrupt motherfucker,’ he remarked.”
― Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 19 May 2021 19:32 (two years ago) link
On the other hand
Bull FUCKING SHIT YES BIDEN IS GOING TO RAISE TAXES !!!!HE SAID SO HIMSELF AND THE FUCKING MEDIA IN THIS NATION MUST STOP PROTECTING THAT CORRUPT MOTHERFUCKER JOE BIDEN!!!!!!— Noelle (@noelle20102) October 21, 2020
― jaymc, Wednesday, 19 May 2021 20:54 (two years ago) link
So how long do you think until some real violence breaks out? It's kinda obvious a good portion of the Red Hatters are doubling down on the crazy.
I sadly think it is probably inevitable.
― earlnash, Wednesday, 19 May 2021 21:34 (two years ago) link
So how long do you think until some real violence breaks out?
Are you including violent diarrhea? Because we're talking Trump here.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 19 May 2021 21:43 (two years ago) link
didn't violence already break out?
― Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Wednesday, 19 May 2021 22:01 (two years ago) link
I seem to recall some.
― sharpening the contraindications (Aimless), Wednesday, 19 May 2021 22:09 (two years ago) link
I was going to say. Violence been breaking out since May 1865.
― Deicide at Chuck E. Cheese (PBKR), Wednesday, 19 May 2021 22:10 (two years ago) link
Regardless of what exactly will or won't happen to him, this story is the best one I've seen tying a variety of threads together so far. A couple of key parts:
The New York attorney general’s office has been criminally investigating the chief financial officer of former President Donald J. Trump’s company for months over tax issues, according to people with knowledge of the matter.The office of the attorney general, Letitia James, notified the Trump Organization in a January letter that it had opened a criminal investigation related to the chief financial officer, Allen Weisselberg, the people said. The investigators have examined whether taxes were paid on fringe benefits that Mr. Trump gave him, including cars and tens of thousands of dollars in private school tuition for at least one of Mr. Weisselberg’s grandchildren....Rather than risk bumping into each other, the two investigative offices recently began collaborating, another person with knowledge of the matter said. Two assistant attorneys general from Ms. James’s office have joined the district attorney’s team, which has been seeking to turn Mr. Weisselberg into a cooperating witness against Mr. Trump and the Trump Organization, people with knowledge of that effort said....Mr. Trump has been described by advisers as agitated by the two investigations. After moving last week from his private Florida club, Mar-a-Lago, to another of his clubs in New Jersey, he then decamped to Trump Tower for his first extended stay in years, spending time at the office where aides have been grappling with the inquiries for many months.
The office of the attorney general, Letitia James, notified the Trump Organization in a January letter that it had opened a criminal investigation related to the chief financial officer, Allen Weisselberg, the people said. The investigators have examined whether taxes were paid on fringe benefits that Mr. Trump gave him, including cars and tens of thousands of dollars in private school tuition for at least one of Mr. Weisselberg’s grandchildren.
Rather than risk bumping into each other, the two investigative offices recently began collaborating, another person with knowledge of the matter said. Two assistant attorneys general from Ms. James’s office have joined the district attorney’s team, which has been seeking to turn Mr. Weisselberg into a cooperating witness against Mr. Trump and the Trump Organization, people with knowledge of that effort said.
Mr. Trump has been described by advisers as agitated by the two investigations. After moving last week from his private Florida club, Mar-a-Lago, to another of his clubs in New Jersey, he then decamped to Trump Tower for his first extended stay in years, spending time at the office where aides have been grappling with the inquiries for many months.
More smoke/mirrors than anything else, who knows. But if you combine it with the continual drip of stuff that Weisselberg's former daughter-in-law keeps happily sharing, the latest today:
https://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/manhattan/ny-trump-ag-james-nyc-manhattan-da-vance-criminal-probe-20210519-u3iuor4axrf3tadfvy6lgtunoe-story.html
Then sure looks like something.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 20 May 2021 04:26 (two years ago) link
taxes on fringe benefits? maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan
― parenthetically yours, (Karl Malone), Thursday, 20 May 2021 04:46 (two years ago) link
Couldn’t they have phrased that headline slightly differently?
― epistantophus, Thursday, 20 May 2021 11:05 (two years ago) link
the continual drip of stuff
I have been following a “continual drip” of Trump legal rumors for five years. First Mueller, then other things—it always feels like a tease.
― treeship., Thursday, 20 May 2021 11:50 (two years ago) link
The wheels of justice move slow.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 20 May 2021 12:11 (two years ago) link
looking forward to the “Trump is becoming increasingly agitated” takes in the next few years
― Long Tall Arsetee & the Shaker Intros (breastcrawl), Thursday, 20 May 2021 13:12 (two years ago) link
Weisselberg honestly seems like someone Trump has more interest in/concern about than his own family.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 20 May 2021 13:25 (two years ago) link
xp "he's been screaming at people and acting like an asshole all day... he must be agitated about those NY investigations!"
― nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Thursday, 20 May 2021 13:32 (two years ago) link
Every day in Apple News there is a new story from Vanity Fair about how Trump is THIS close to getting arrested. It’s the new “increasingly isolated.”
― DJI, Thursday, 20 May 2021 15:25 (two years ago) link
All the arrests to him and his family be imminent, until he magically runs for president again and regains immunity, not via the law but some longstanding tradition among law enforcement to never arrest obviously guilty politicians
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 20 May 2021 15:30 (two years ago) link
Again, the “I could shoot someone on 5th Avenue!” bit was indicative of something more real than we all thought at the time. I’m guessing that emerged from a conversation he had with his own lawyers beforehand. They probably informed him that as president he would have insane legal immunity to all sorts of things. He probably said “you mean I could shoot someone?” and they all laughed, and one of his dumb sons added “even on 5th Avenue!” and they all laughed, and then a couple days later trump was on the third hour of ad libbing at a campaign stop and he said it, and they all laughed
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 20 May 2021 15:34 (two years ago) link
"he's been screaming at people and acting like an asshole all day... he must be agitated about those NY investigations!"
― nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Thursday, May 20, 2021 9:32 AM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
Exactly the type of fantasy dot connecting people were desperately making during the last 5 years that inspired all of the subsequent resistanceporn fanfiction by twitter handles that were probably just trying to attract followers by pretending they had special insight.
― Evan, Thursday, 20 May 2021 15:52 (two years ago) link
Zeno's Trump paradox?
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 20 May 2021 17:26 (two years ago) link
he could go down for tax fraud, who knows? seems likely he will just spend his life tied up in lawsuits and then fade away.
― treeship., Thursday, 20 May 2021 17:29 (two years ago) link
people just have put so much hope into him getting arrested--for years!
― treeship., Thursday, 20 May 2021 17:30 (two years ago) link
I think it may be less him than 'the business' as such in the end which gets it. But we'll see.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 20 May 2021 18:08 (two years ago) link
He does rather have a track record of declaring bankruptcy and skating away from consequences, why change tack now?
― balsamic panic (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 20 May 2021 19:15 (two years ago) link
also, like, how is rudy giuliani still walking around and traveling and shit? isn't he, openly, one of the most corrupt people in the country? how long does it take to fucking nail him on something?
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 20 May 2021 19:27 (two years ago) link
karma police arrest that man. and matt gaetz, same deal. he's not indicted yet? why? i don't call cops, but i would call the cops on gaetz if he lived in my town and i knew he'd done 1/10th of what he very obviously did
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 20 May 2021 19:30 (two years ago) link
i get that our justice system is incredibly slow and a complete failure. maybe it's taking a minute to get the evidence in the right bag, and prepare the correct documents. but also, it's been crystal clear that giuliani is a corrupt piece of shit for several decades now. probably safe to begin drafting the legal documentation ahead of time? was anyone shocked that gaetz will do whatever it takes to sleep with teenagers?
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 20 May 2021 19:33 (two years ago) link
With cable shows about sugar daddies, feel like Gaetz is benefitting from desensitization.
― the body of a spider... (scampering alpaca), Thursday, 20 May 2021 19:52 (two years ago) link
I get that expectations and standards have been wholly lowered by this point, but it does kind of astound me that a sitting member of Congress is accused of paying for sex with a minor via an app and it's still a comparatively niche news story.
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 20 May 2021 19:54 (two years ago) link
then he went on the America First! tour with MTG, and everyone cheered for them
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 20 May 2021 19:59 (two years ago) link
all comes back to Trump himself, doesn't it? Gaetz is a sexpest but no moreso than Trump is. MTG is a fucking lunatic but the stuff she says is no dumber than what Trump says on a daily basis. Giuliani is corrupt as hell but Don's in a whole other league. Republican voters do not care. so why *not* go on tour?
― frogbs, Thursday, 20 May 2021 20:09 (two years ago) link
Trump literally got hundreds of thousands of people killed and incited a goddamn riot at the Capitol and the only thing that happened to him is he got banned from Twitter
― frogbs, Thursday, 20 May 2021 20:12 (two years ago) link
And millions of people would happily reelect him.
― Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Thursday, 20 May 2021 20:35 (two years ago) link
"Gaetz is against cancelling Xmas, and I'm against cancelling Xmas, so therefore..." etc.
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 20 May 2021 20:37 (two years ago) link
Republican voters do not care.
This understates the situation. It's not "I've heard the accusations and I don't care."
It's "I wear the scorn of the woke libs as a badge of honor. The baseless accusations of the FAKE NEWS lamestream media just solidify my support for these patriot warriors for MAGAtruth!!!!"
Simply "not caring" would be indifference. This lunacy is reactive, and it is a feedback loop. The more Gaetz and MTG get vilified by the liberal media elite, the more their fans double down and increase in fervency.
― balsamic panic (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 20 May 2021 20:46 (two years ago) link
or what Andy the Grasshopper said
I'd argue that's it's just as likely that they have not heard any such accusations as the media they follow shields them from anything negative about their team above and beyond anything else
― Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Thursday, 20 May 2021 20:53 (two years ago) link
Exactly. It makes no difference that Biden spoke not word one about taking away anybody's hamburgers; to be on the side of hamburgers is to protect our values against rampant pedo-socialism, so count me in!!
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 20 May 2021 20:53 (two years ago) link
Remember when Obama was gonna take all the guns?
Good times, good times.
― balsamic panic (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 20 May 2021 20:54 (two years ago) link
A little more on that business side of things. Some details in here (such as more on disclosure when asking for loans) I wasn't aware of.
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2021/05/20/whats-behind-the-new-york-attorney-generals-criminal-probe-of-the-trump-organization-489866
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 20 May 2021 21:46 (two years ago) link
*taps “ah well nevertheless” tweet*
― Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Thursday, 20 May 2021 21:59 (two years ago) link
Grand jury convened in Trump criminal probe to hear evidence, weigh potential charges https://t.co/MXL5g6R59e— The Washington Post (@washingtonpost) May 25, 2021
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 26 May 2021 13:17 (two years ago) link
the grand jury is for the next 6 months, if i remember correctly from reading that this morning. shortly after that, he'll announce he's running for president in 2024, he'll be the frontrunner, and the investigations will halt because it's unprecedented
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 27 May 2021 00:42 (two years ago) link
that makes him smart
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 27 May 2021 00:43 (two years ago) link
lol that is absolutely what will happen.
― treeship., Thursday, 27 May 2021 01:24 (two years ago) link
In a statement issued through his leadership political action committee Save America, Trump hammered Ryan as a “RINO” — Republican in name only
From wikipedia: "Trump registered as a Republican in Manhattan in 1987 and since that time has changed his party affiliation five times. In 1999, Trump changed his party affiliation to the Independence Party of New York. In August 2001, Trump changed his party affiliation to Democratic. In September 2009, Trump changed his party affiliation back to the Republican Party. In December 2011, Trump changed to "no party affiliation" (independent). In April 2012, Trump again returned to the Republican Party..."
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 28 May 2021 19:02 (two years ago) link
Sometimes I think someone told him it stood for something else and he thinks it's a deep burn.
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 28 May 2021 19:04 (two years ago) link
he has internalized it as "rhino in name only" and thinks the rhino is the best animal
― Karl Malone, Friday, 28 May 2021 19:07 (two years ago) link
https://www.businessinsider.in/politics/world/news/former-daughter-in-law-of-trump-org-cfo-allen-weisselberg-says-that-hes-evicting-her-as-retribution-for-speaking-out/articleshow/83063085.cms
― StanM, Sunday, 30 May 2021 22:30 (two years ago) link
folks ... Qallapalooza just got even better pic.twitter.com/tNQ8h0W16s— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) June 1, 2021
VIA JUMBOTRON!
― blue whales on ambient (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 1 June 2021 23:43 (two years ago) link
I'm always impressed by the subtle aesthetic touch of such posters.
― clemenza, Tuesday, 1 June 2021 23:52 (two years ago) link
It looks like a rodeo bill, or like an amateur boxing or wrestling tournament or a mariachi festival, like this:
https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/s1080x2048/100761305_144290267210202_496207729304535040_n.jpg?_nc_cat=102&ccb=1-3&_nc_sid=e3f864&_nc_ohc=crP_txbDVSMAX_RGu2W&_nc_oc=AQlq-xZPVbIuuFwN5RI4Nl2WKsU6qKJJOy8DkpYvFBbv688V2y9-pUwC5pRmVxcSLKY&_nc_ht=scontent-ort2-1.xx&tp=7&oh=120ec1f3e90680996ab58c14dafda19a&oe=60DACF87
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 2 June 2021 00:35 (two years ago) link
They should hire Pen & Pixel.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_ufkaGeHKwjo/SutFibnsOTI/AAAAAAAACVE/XfyIuUwGnXU/s1600/1485508844.jpg
― blue whales on ambient (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 2 June 2021 00:48 (two years ago) link
DT: Da Last Real Don President
― blue whales on ambient (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 2 June 2021 00:49 (two years ago) link
Sad times
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/06/02/trump-blog-page-shuts-down-for-good.html
― Alba, Wednesday, 2 June 2021 14:18 (two years ago) link
cancel culture strikes again
― frogbs, Wednesday, 2 June 2021 14:24 (two years ago) link
man I'm not looking forward to this guy being President again in August
― Piven After Midnight (The Yellow Kid), Wednesday, 2 June 2021 14:42 (two years ago) link
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/95/CountingCrowsAugustandEverythingAfter.jpg
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 2 June 2021 14:44 (two years ago) link
another blow for the blogosphere
― A viking of frowns, (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 2 June 2021 14:45 (two years ago) link
So they ... cancelled him?
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 2 June 2021 14:50 (two years ago) link
That is truly sad (pathetic-sad, obviously, not the other sad).
― clemenza, Wednesday, 2 June 2021 14:53 (two years ago) link
I missed out on the @georgepbush swag yesterday: The koozie says "this is the only Bush that likes me. This is the Bush that got it right. I like him" - Donald Trump #txlege pic.twitter.com/pFTzQCmoRG— Scott Braddock (@scottbraddock) June 3, 2021
― blue whales on ambient (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 3 June 2021 16:05 (two years ago) link
That looks like a David Rees cartoon.
― heyy nineteen, that's john belushi (the table is the table), Thursday, 3 June 2021 16:08 (two years ago) link
Trump has continued to tease a potential White House bid in 2024 but also play into false beliefs from some of his supporters that he'll be reinstated as president.
QAnon conspiracy theorists and Trump-supporting online forums have promoted the dangerous suggestion that a military coup like the one in Myanmar should occur in the US so Trump can be reinstated as President in the coming months.
Ahh yes - now the 'patriots' who loathe gov't tyranny and overreach are dreaming of military junta, makes total sense to me
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 3 June 2021 16:27 (two years ago) link
We should just let them believe he's President.
― Feta Van Cheese (Neanderthal), Thursday, 3 June 2021 17:55 (two years ago) link
Seriously Biden should just go out and claim “no really Trump is the president I am just a front, and my friend T. wants everybody to call their senator and demand they pass the PRO Act and the John Lewis Act, MAGA!”
― Van Halen dot Senate dot flashlight (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 3 June 2021 18:03 (two years ago) link
i think that's usually when the simulation ends
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 3 June 2021 18:12 (two years ago) link
when you can no longer tell the difference between television and real life
I stand by my rock-solid assertion that Biden actually received 17 million more votes than Trump, but for fraud. Hopefully the AZ audit will back this up.
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 3 June 2021 18:20 (two years ago) link
How do those vote totals figure in the fact that Trump himself is a fraud?
― What's It All About, Althea? (Aimless), Thursday, 3 June 2021 18:28 (two years ago) link
Ultimately the world would be a much better place with Trump dead
― burnt hombre (stevie), Thursday, 3 June 2021 18:34 (two years ago) link
a little late (but I won't say no)
― intern at pelican brief consulting (Simon H.), Thursday, 3 June 2021 18:37 (two years ago) link
There's an alternate universe where he's unable to avoid the draft and heroically dies from infected bone spurs in a Saigon hospital bed
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 3 June 2021 18:41 (two years ago) link
something always brings me back to youit never takes too long
― Feta Van Cheese (Neanderthal), Thursday, 3 June 2021 19:17 (two years ago) link
Bargain hunters are swooping in to take advantage of prices in Trump buildings that have dropped to levels not seen in over a decade, a crash brokers attribute to a combination of the former president's polarizing image and the coronavirus pandemic. It’s a stunning reversal for a brand that once lured the rich and famous willing to pay a premium to live in a building with Trump’s gilded name on it.
“They’re giving them away,” says Lane Blue who paid $160,500 in March for a studio in Trump’s Las Vegas tower, $350,000 less than the seller paid in 2008.
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 4 June 2021 19:12 (two years ago) link
Others are noting this, but it can't be shared enough: Donald Trump gave his big speech today with his pants on backwards. Look close and tell me I'm wrong.pic.twitter.com/sRsoJVfyf8— Brandon Friedman (@BFriedmanDC) June 6, 2021
― frogbs, Sunday, 6 June 2021 14:37 (two years ago) link
Big ketchup stain on the front so he has to improvise
― Van Halen dot Senate dot flashlight (Boring, Maryland), Sunday, 6 June 2021 16:52 (two years ago) link
I don’t like to judge based on appearances but I’m saying I’m also a heavy guy and my suit pants looked better than Trump’s even the time I got drunk during lunch and fell asleep under the desk hiding from a fire drill— LolWhatInsurrectionHat (@Popehat) June 6, 2021
― blue whales on ambient (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 6 June 2021 17:18 (two years ago) link
Look close and tell me I'm wrong
I looked closely. The fly was blurred out. It's a 'shop'. A bad one, too.
― What's It All About, Althea? (Aimless), Sunday, 6 June 2021 18:19 (two years ago) link
today was a trying day, but I should really count my blessings that I didn't spend a moment of it examining Donald Trump's crotch
― A viking of frowns, (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Sunday, 6 June 2021 19:59 (two years ago) link
Down and to the leftDown and to the left
― Joe Bombin (milo z), Sunday, 6 June 2021 20:20 (two years ago) link
Does not appear to be a shop
It's not altered. You can watch the original on the Fox Carolina News YouTube https://t.co/4aNxcHbqaE— Bla1ze (@bla1ze) June 6, 2021
― frogbs, Sunday, 6 June 2021 21:13 (two years ago) link
he clearly peed himself
― Feta Van Cheese (Neanderthal), Sunday, 6 June 2021 21:18 (two years ago) link
Weird, he usually hires someone else for that.
― Joe Bombin (milo z), Sunday, 6 June 2021 21:23 (two years ago) link
I guess the news people were using a direct line into the PA, which makes his entrance and letting the song completely play out as he mugs for the audience come off really weird because there's no audible cheering whatsoever for minutes on end.
― blue whales on ambient (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 6 June 2021 21:29 (two years ago) link
Imo it’s got to be some kind of dress pants with an elastic waist and no zipper. If he put regular pants on backwards that would mean he’d have to reach behind and do the zipper, and no way he can reach to do that
― nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Sunday, 6 June 2021 21:46 (two years ago) link
Whether they're on backwards or no, they're almost certainly elasticated pants with a fake fly, pulled over a diaper.
― bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Sunday, 6 June 2021 21:47 (two years ago) link
Diaper Donnie just getting all incontinent over the Constitution.
― earlnash, Sunday, 6 June 2021 21:54 (two years ago) link
he’d have to reach behind and do the zipper, and no way he can reach to do that
That's what he keeps Eric around for.
― blue whales on ambient (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 6 June 2021 22:09 (two years ago) link
In other recent Trump offspring news, DJTJ needs Coke money, gets dunked on by Claire McCaskill
Seriously? $19.99 for a DM? This is hilariously pathetic. pic.twitter.com/fHd8tu9kKi— Claire McCaskill (@clairecmc) June 3, 2021
― blue whales on ambient (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 6 June 2021 22:12 (two years ago) link
I thought for sure this was a parody. pic.twitter.com/8kDCQLDm7q— OG JJ (@J_Dot_J) June 8, 2021
― blue whales on ambient (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 8 June 2021 21:59 (two years ago) link
Fucking hell people, stop sharing this shit on fucking Twitter, even if you want to dunk on him.
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 8 June 2021 22:02 (two years ago) link
One of the joys of him being booted was to not have to look at this shit and it was nice for awhile, but for the last week it feels like a quarter of my feed is fucking Trump again, even if it is all making fun of him.
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 8 June 2021 22:06 (two years ago) link
I was looking for a famous birthday to talk about for a teaching job today, and yuck. I think we'll talk about Boy George/Culture Club instead.
― clemenza, Monday, 14 June 2021 12:55 (two years ago) link
not allowed!
― cancel culture club (Neanderthal), Monday, 14 June 2021 13:07 (two years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c18441Eh_WE
― treeship., Monday, 14 June 2021 13:25 (two years ago) link
RIP I’ll always remember you big guy.
― Van Halen dot Senate dot flashlight (Boring, Maryland), Monday, 14 June 2021 13:43 (two years ago) link
I wish I talked about Trump instead. I played "Do You Really Want to Hurt Me" for them--and had to stop 30 seconds in. (Hadn't seen the video for 30 years at least.) Jesus. "Teachable moment," as they say.
― clemenza, Monday, 14 June 2021 15:15 (two years ago) link
I have honestly never seen that video before. Holy hell.
― Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Monday, 14 June 2021 15:20 (two years ago) link
xxp don't get my hopes up please
― A viking of frowns, (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 14 June 2021 15:20 (two years ago) link
wow @ that culture club video, sure I have seen that before, how did I not notice THAT?
― A viking of frowns, (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 14 June 2021 15:23 (two years ago) link
Karma Chameleon video is also fairly problematic along similar lines
― A viking of frowns, (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 14 June 2021 15:24 (two years ago) link
I had "Karma Chameleon" cued up to play after, but that was immediately a no-go...It really shook me up. We talked about it, and then I phoned the principal as soon as I had a break. She was really good about it. Last time I ever play a music video without double-checking first.
― clemenza, Monday, 14 June 2021 15:28 (two years ago) link
from https://www.songfacts.com/facts/culture-club/do-you-really-want-to-hurt-me, don't know that this really explains it...
The concept of the video was Boy George as an outsider, getting kicked out of different places in various historical settings. It was directed by Julien Temple, who came up with the idea of jurors dressed in blackface. This was a shocking image for American audiences, who long associated blackface with racism, but in England it was far more accepted as part of their music hall tradition.Temple explained in the book I Want My MTV: "'Do You Really Want To Hurt Me?" was about being gay and being victimized for your sexuality, which George was kind of emblematic of. It seemed appropriate to me that in the video he would be judged by jurors in blackface, to send up bigotry and point out the hypocrisy of the many gay judges and politicians in the UK who'd enacted anti-gay legislation."
Temple explained in the book I Want My MTV: "'Do You Really Want To Hurt Me?" was about being gay and being victimized for your sexuality, which George was kind of emblematic of. It seemed appropriate to me that in the video he would be judged by jurors in blackface, to send up bigotry and point out the hypocrisy of the many gay judges and politicians in the UK who'd enacted anti-gay legislation."
count me among the people who saw this many times as a child, but did not recall the blackface element
― Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Monday, 14 June 2021 15:34 (two years ago) link
Was there an edited version as well, maybe?
I seem to recall the original video for Taco's "Putting on the Ritz" featuring blackface bits that were later removed and replaced with generic stills of Gary Cooper
― Hongro Hongro Hippies (Myonga Vön Bontee), Monday, 14 June 2021 16:17 (two years ago) link
I think there was...? I remember reading at the time that MTV refused to play it (not that MTV's programming wasn't already explicitly racist in the early '80s).
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 14 June 2021 16:48 (two years ago) link
See also UB40's 1980 video for 'Dream a Lie'
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfoVVRDU378
― Portsmouth Bubblejet, Monday, 14 June 2021 16:55 (two years ago) link
There must have been an alternative or edited version, I've never seen that before.
― Are Animated Dads Getting Hotter? (Tom D.), Monday, 14 June 2021 17:04 (two years ago) link
xpost yeah looks like the blackface is in the slow opening part of the song. Pretty easy to cut that part out.
― Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Monday, 14 June 2021 17:15 (two years ago) link
I had to check when The Black and White Minstrel show ended on the BBC - 1978, so three years before the Culture Club video, too far a distance timewise for the CC vid to be taken or excused as parody.
― Ward Fowler, Monday, 14 June 2021 17:52 (two years ago) link
Running weekly for 20 years makes enough of a cultural impact that it can still be referred to as an element of public consciousness three years later... even if the stage show wasn’t still touring regularly until 1987, and playing Butlins until 1989.
― bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Monday, 14 June 2021 18:14 (two years ago) link
too far a distance timewise for the CC vid to be taken or excused as parody
Are you kidding? People are still making jokes about shit that happened in 1978 now.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Monday, 14 June 2021 18:22 (two years ago) link
True. That was the year the Star Wars Xmas special aired.
― Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Monday, 14 June 2021 18:25 (two years ago) link
ask someone if they have 'badges' and wait for them to tell you they don't have to show you any 'stinkin badges'.
― cancel culture club (Neanderthal), Monday, 14 June 2021 18:36 (two years ago) link
Wait, is this the Donald Trump thread? I think I'm lost
― Andy the Grasshopper, Monday, 14 June 2021 18:51 (two years ago) link
all threads are Donald Trump threads. no threads are Donald Trump threads.
― cancel culture club (Neanderthal), Monday, 14 June 2021 18:55 (two years ago) link
Boy George came out as MAGA
― Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Monday, 14 June 2021 19:01 (two years ago) link
not my lover, but my rival
― cancel culture club (Neanderthal), Monday, 14 June 2021 19:03 (two years ago) link
Make America George Again
― blue whales on ambient (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 14 June 2021 19:05 (two years ago) link
I'll grumble 4 ya
― cancel culture club (Neanderthal), Monday, 14 June 2021 19:07 (two years ago) link
KarMA_GAmeleon
― ten man poland chasing this means hamsik feasts (breastcrawl), Monday, 14 June 2021 19:08 (two years ago) link
but really, he did?xp
― ten man poland chasing this means hamsik feasts (breastcrawl), Monday, 14 June 2021 19:09 (two years ago) link
Perhaps he has a... poisoned mind
― Champagne Heathernova (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 14 June 2021 19:20 (two years ago) link
trump is still doing fake tweets as "statements" on his website. nothing worth mentioning.
― wasdnuos (abanana), Tuesday, 15 June 2021 19:08 (two years ago) link
File in the "WTF?" dept.:
The niece of Osama bin Laden on Wednesday protested the Biden-Putin summit with a “Trump Won” flag.
Video surfaced on Twitter Wednesday showing Noor bin Laden, on a boat with others, holding a “Trump Won” flag in Geneva, the site of the summit. Noor bin Laden is pushing the unfounded claim that former President Trump won the 2020 election.
― Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 16 June 2021 23:12 (two years ago) link
i think maybe bin Laden's angle is that anything that promotes the idea the Trump Won is a destabilizing influence for the U.S. as a whole. or, you know, she could just be out of her mind like so much of humanity
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 16 June 2021 23:15 (two years ago) link
― ten man poland chasing this means hamsik feasts (breastcrawl), Monday, 14 June 2021 19:08 (two days ago) bookmarkflaglink
vvg
― Eschew things thirty two times before swallowing them (darraghmac), Wednesday, 16 June 2021 23:20 (two years ago) link
BIN LADEN WON
― Alba, Wednesday, 16 June 2021 23:36 (two years ago) link
she could just be out of her mind
This. She's been a major, out of her mind Trumper for years.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 16 June 2021 23:36 (two years ago) link
bin laden did win, tbh
he got bush and the neocons to sliiiiightly overreact in Iraq and Afghanistan, which played a big hand in obama getting elected (he was one of the few candidates who could credibly say he was against iraq from the beginning), and then white americans got so mad about a black man being president that they elected trump, which made pretty much everyone mad
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 16 June 2021 23:39 (two years ago) link
not that he planned it out that way, of course. but the initial destabilizing event 9/11 led very directly to other destabilizing events, varnished the bravado of 80% of americans being for bush in the wake of the attack, freedom fries, all that bullshit. one big evil tragedy leads to another
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 16 June 2021 23:40 (two years ago) link
and eventually everyone's just like "fuck you asshole!", including me. seriously, fuck any republican 4 life for what they did. i'm supposed to talk to them? fuck them
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 16 June 2021 23:41 (two years ago) link
She's a nutjob, but honestly, I don't think there is much significance to the Bin Laden connection
― Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Wednesday, 16 June 2021 23:58 (two years ago) link
okay, she references some 'bombshell': ... the Revolver News bombshell on possible FBI infiltration in 1/6
Prepare for this bombshell, people.. this... changes... everything...
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 17 June 2021 00:19 (two years ago) link
BI(nla)DEN WON
― Hongro Hongro Hippies (Myonga Vön Bontee), Thursday, 17 June 2021 00:20 (two years ago) link
The golldang FBI orchestrated the Capitol Riots!! Wait watch the lametream media try to distort this electrifying new evidence
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 17 June 2021 00:21 (two years ago) link
Trump-Bin Laden 2024
― treeship., Thursday, 17 June 2021 00:21 (two years ago) link
Here we go:
BREAKING: Congressman Matt Gaetz calls on FBI Director Christopher Wray to fully disclose the role and involvement of FBI operatives during the January 6th Capitol riot.
Look! a condor in a wet suit!
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 17 June 2021 00:29 (two years ago) link
he sure is playing with fire
― Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Thursday, 17 June 2021 00:38 (two years ago) link
now i'm looking up how many nieces and nephews bin laden has but i can't find it, i think it may be in the hundreds
― superdeep borehole (harbl), Thursday, 17 June 2021 01:09 (two years ago) link
he had 53 siblings and most (if not all) males in his family have a large number of wives
― superdeep borehole (harbl), Thursday, 17 June 2021 01:11 (two years ago) link
Bin Laden, nieces, nephews, Matt Gaetz: patterns seem to be appearing - what could it all mean?
― ten man poland chasing this means hamsik feasts (breastcrawl), Thursday, 17 June 2021 05:38 (two years ago) link
The scum also rises.
― earlnash, Thursday, 17 June 2021 05:43 (two years ago) link
The golldang FBI orchestrated the Capitol Riots!!
This isn't really an unbelievable concept.
― Joe Bombin (milo z), Thursday, 17 June 2021 05:52 (two years ago) link
these patterns...they must mean something!
this can't be a coincidence
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 17 June 2021 06:01 (two years ago) link
looks toward heavens
THIS CAN'T BE A COINCIDENCE?!?
THIS CAN'T JUST BE, ALL OF IT, UNPLANNED!!
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 17 June 2021 06:02 (two years ago) link
or, on the other hand, maybe it is
the wingnuts are obsessing over use of "unindicted co-conspirators" in the indictments of rioters--claiming that they must all be undercover FBI agents (rather than rioters flipping on other rioters)
― Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Thursday, 17 June 2021 13:44 (two years ago) link
the wingnuts only know how 5 things work in the world and just hinge on key phrases that manipulative talking heads convince them are important.
words/phrases that no longer mean anything thanks to Trumpers wrecking them:
"fake news""voting irregularities""unindicted co-conspirators""Quid pro quo""Treason""coup""bigot"
― cancel culture club (Neanderthal), Thursday, 17 June 2021 13:50 (two years ago) link
I'll never forget how quickly Trump co-opted the phrase 'fake news' as a legitimate descriptor of his word vomit and just turned it into more word vomit. Dismantling the English language and cobbling together a verbal IED from the remains.
― Jerome Percival Jesus (Old Lunch), Thursday, 17 June 2021 14:06 (two years ago) link
xpost add "exonerated" to the list.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 17 June 2021 14:09 (two years ago) link
"witch hunt"
― frogbs, Thursday, 17 June 2021 14:11 (two years ago) link
"great"
― clemenza, Saturday, 19 June 2021 18:46 (two years ago) link
― cancel culture club (Neanderthal), Saturday, 19 June 2021 18:52 (two years ago) link
I've known Jeff for fifteen years. Terrific guy. He's a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. No doubt about it — Jeffrey enjoys his social life.
― Left, Saturday, 19 June 2021 20:13 (two years ago) link
“Testing is killing me!” Trump reportedly told then-Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar during a phone call on March 18. Trump was yelling so loud that aides were said to have overheard every word of the conversation.
“I’m going to lose the election because of testing! What idiot had the federal government do testing?” Trump exclaimed.
“Uh, do you mean Jared?” Azar responded, according to the Post...
― Andy the Grasshopper, Monday, 21 June 2021 18:19 (two years ago) link
Getting tired of all the "Weisselberg is about to flip" stories. The fact that prosecutors are now looking at Matthew Calamari probably means Weisselberg told them to go pound sand.
― Vin Jawn (PBKR), Tuesday, 22 June 2021 12:18 (two years ago) link
or they're just hungry
― cancel culture club (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 22 June 2021 12:57 (two years ago) link
Maybe, in a twist, Trump is gonna flip on Weisselberg.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 22 June 2021 13:17 (two years ago) link
seriously, is anything at ALL going to happen to him before he's running for president in 2024 and is immune to prosecution again, according to DOJ policy 2340, regional prosecution jurisdiction order AJ#22 and what's known as "the unspoken gentlemen's code" that when you're running for office and you might win, you can't commit crimes?
― Karl Malone, Tuesday, 22 June 2021 15:16 (two years ago) link
before he's running for president in 2024
by this i mean starting to run for president in 2022, when the campaigns start in earnest
― Karl Malone, Tuesday, 22 June 2021 15:17 (two years ago) link
Former President Donald Trump has amassed 10 times more campaign cash than he had four years ago, and he’s already resuming fundraising efforts ahead of intra-party clashes in the 2022 midterms and a potential 2024 presidential run.Trump’s leadership PAC, Save America PAC, had $85 million in the bank through March, CNBC reported this week. That’s up from $31 million through the end of 2020. The group will officially file its fundraising and spending figures with the Federal Election Commission by April 15.Bolstered by a constant stream of online donations from diehard supporters, Trump is in a stronger financial position than he was four years ago. Through the first three months of 2017, his campaign reported having about $8.4 million in the bank. Trump began fundraising for reelection shortly after taking office, giving him a significant head start in the 2020 race.
Trump’s leadership PAC, Save America PAC, had $85 million in the bank through March, CNBC reported this week. That’s up from $31 million through the end of 2020. The group will officially file its fundraising and spending figures with the Federal Election Commission by April 15.
Bolstered by a constant stream of online donations from diehard supporters, Trump is in a stronger financial position than he was four years ago. Through the first three months of 2017, his campaign reported having about $8.4 million in the bank. Trump began fundraising for reelection shortly after taking office, giving him a significant head start in the 2020 race.
of course he'll run for office until he's dead. he finally found a business where people just throw money at him
― Karl Malone, Tuesday, 22 June 2021 15:19 (two years ago) link
figured there'd be a bump for this additional proof about what a whiny thin-skinned snowflake he was:
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-asked-if-doj-fcc-could-punish-snl-after-mocking-report-2021-6
President Donald Trump asked advisors and lawyers to look into how "Saturday Night Live" and other late-night shows could be punished after they mocked him, The Daily Beast's Asawin Suebsaeng and Adam Rawnsley reported on Tuesday.Two sources told the outlet that Trump had asked aides in 2019 to look at what the Federal Communications Commission, US courts, and the Department of Justice could do about "SNL" and other shows, like "Jimmy Kimmel Live."
Two sources told the outlet that Trump had asked aides in 2019 to look at what the Federal Communications Commission, US courts, and the Department of Justice could do about "SNL" and other shows, like "Jimmy Kimmel Live."
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 22 June 2021 15:19 (two years ago) link
in a slightly better alternate universe, instead of trump getting enraged by obama at the press dinner in 2011 (reminder: trump was enraged by obama because obama had the nerve to make a joke making light of how trump had led a global racist movement targeting obama's birth certificate) and becoming president and shitting all over this country's dinner, he could have instead been enraged by SNL making fun of him and instead taken over SNL and made the show even worse, somehow. but i suppose entertainment and politics are forever entwined now
― Karl Malone, Tuesday, 22 June 2021 15:23 (two years ago) link
basically he was Victor Orban without the cunning
― cancel culture club (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 22 June 2021 15:24 (two years ago) link
Ron DeSantis is doing quite well with the dead enders. Don't be surprised if the money people turn to him.
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 22 June 2021 15:36 (two years ago) link
DeSantis is a fuckin' monster.
― cancel culture club (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 22 June 2021 15:47 (two years ago) link
Our friends on this thread will soon find out.
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 22 June 2021 15:49 (two years ago) link
Don't worry, I believe both of you! No need to have him foisted on us to understand, we don't doubt his monstrosity.
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 22 June 2021 15:52 (two years ago) link
hoping he gets completely destroyed in the lawsuits over the illegal Big Tech 'fine' system he signed into law
― cancel culture club (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 22 June 2021 15:52 (two years ago) link
i don't wish DeSantis on anybody. Gillum might have alcohol issues but he's someone I would have trusted.
Abbott seems to be gunning for the role of biggest GOP monster, governor division.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 22 June 2021 15:52 (two years ago) link
in retrospect, it's amazing that all-time classic ilxor abbbbbbotttttt knew to modify her name before Abbott came on the national scene
― Karl Malone, Tuesday, 22 June 2021 16:00 (two years ago) link
amusingly, In the Heights removed its only reference to Donald Trump from the lyrics to "96,000" for the movie
― cancel culture club (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 22 June 2021 16:03 (two years ago) link
changed it to Tiger Woods
The brother of a friend just completed a book on the Toronto Argos' 1991 Grey Cup. (If you're not from Canada, don't worry about that part.) Trump gets a brief mention in the book, I believe because of some connection to Bruce McNall, co-owner of the team (with John Candy and Wayne Gretzky) who went on to serve time in prison.
Anyway, the punch line: the league's commissioner at the time, mentioned throughout the book, was a guy named Donald Crump.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Crump
― clemenza, Friday, 25 June 2021 23:10 (two years ago) link
is he still alive
― unknown or illegal user (doo rag), Saturday, 26 June 2021 03:12 (two years ago) link
YepI refuse to die until he does
― Karl Malone, Saturday, 26 June 2021 03:13 (two years ago) link
You shouldn't say those things about Donald Crump.
― clemenza, Saturday, 26 June 2021 13:25 (two years ago) link
From Don Jr’s Instagram pic.twitter.com/ES16TszXz7— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) July 13, 2021
― blue whales on ambient (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 13 July 2021 22:14 (two years ago) link
Dear MAGA
― blue whales on ambient (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 13 July 2021 22:15 (two years ago) link
― pure rim rest (Spottie), Tuesday, 13 July 2021 22:16 (two years ago) link
― not up to Aerosmith standards (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 13 July 2021 22:54 (two years ago) link
Every other city we goEvery other videoNo matter where I goI ain't President no mo
― not up to Aerosmith standards (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 13 July 2021 22:56 (two years ago) link
I always figured Trump was "doing" somebody vocally and obv DJT is a philistine who knows jack shit about movies but *somehow*, at some point, William Friedkin ended up in the mix. (Along with Lieutenant Columbo saying "terrific" all the time.) pic.twitter.com/5BK8BwIHY4— // jbl (@neurasthenya) July 14, 2021
A little disappointed that the clip isn't Friedkin in the Cruising making of doc saying 'leather bar' 38 different times.
― “Heroin” (ft. Bobby Gillespie) (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 15 July 2021 05:21 (two years ago) link
🐦[From Don Jr’s Instagram pic.twitter.com/ES16TszXz7🕸— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) July 13, 2021🕸]🐦
― ten man poland chasing this means hamsik feasts (breastcrawl), Thursday, 15 July 2021 05:46 (two years ago) link
Don Jr. will be the Republican nominee sometime in the future, and no doubt the general election will be a toss-up. Well done, everybody.
― Sam Weller, Thursday, 15 July 2021 09:03 (two years ago) link
He Wish
― ten man poland chasing this means hamsik feasts (breastcrawl), Thursday, 15 July 2021 09:57 (two years ago) link
Nothing too surprising here, except perhaps the leak itself:
Kremlin papers appear to show Putin’s plot to put Trump in White House
They agreed a Trump White House would help secure Moscow’s strategic objectives, among them “social turmoil” in the US and a weakening of the American president’s negotiating position.
There is a brief psychological assessment of Trump, who is described as an “impulsive, mentally unstable and unbalanced individual who suffers from an inferiority complex”.
There is also apparent confirmation that the Kremlin possesses kompromat, or potentially compromising material, on the future president, collected – the document says – from Trump’s earlier “non-official visits to Russian Federation territory”.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jul/15/kremlin-papers-appear-to-show-putins-plot-to-put-trump-in-white-house
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 15 July 2021 17:31 (two years ago) link
so the fact that this leaked from the kremlin makes me mistrust it. especially because the kremlin themselves are denying it, creating these mixed messages. it seems like a surkovian stunt -- something the kremlin might have put out there to kick some dust in the air and put trump back in the news cycle.
― treeship., Thursday, 15 July 2021 17:36 (two years ago) link
this is what they do.
In contemporary Russia, unlike the old USSR or present-day North Korea, the stage is constantly changing: the country is a dictatorship in the morning, a democracy at lunch, an oligarchy by suppertime, while, backstage, oil companies are expropriated, journalists killed, billions siphoned away. Surkov is at the centre of the show, sponsoring nationalist skinheads one moment, backing human rights groups the next. It's a strategy of power based on keeping any opposition there may be constantly confused, a ceaseless shape-shifting that is unstoppable because it's indefinable.— Peter Pomerantsev, in "Putin's Rasputin", London Review of Books issue of 20 October 2011
— Peter Pomerantsev, in "Putin's Rasputin", London Review of Books issue of 20 October 2011
― treeship., Thursday, 15 July 2021 17:37 (two years ago) link
https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/15/politics/kfile-pac-trump-robocall-operation/index.html
I'm just a few paragraphs into this and it's already hilarious
― Karl Havoc (DJP), Thursday, 15 July 2021 20:43 (two years ago) link
Hate the game, not the playa
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 15 July 2021 21:39 (two years ago) link
they raise money to pay for robocalls so they can raise more money to pay for more robocalls
^^Best Spaceman 3 Album
― “Heroin” (ft. Bobby Gillespie) (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 15 July 2021 21:50 (two years ago) link
Is the big man gettin his beak wet in this scam? He’s usuallyso protective of his image!
― KEEP HONKING -- I'M BOBOING (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 15 July 2021 22:01 (two years ago) link
I so wish there was video (got to be on surveilance) of the Trumps melting down realizing he lost. Someday (hopefully) that is going to be some funny shit on a movie or TV show.
― earlnash, Friday, 16 July 2021 01:40 (two years ago) link
Bugfuck thing I forgot about the previous administration #543: Trump autographing giant portraits of murder victims held up by their families at an anti-immigration presser in 2018.
As Biden delivers a speech at the White House today on crime, I was reminded of the time Trump did that and autographed photos of murder victims -- low key one of the most bizarre political moments of the last five years. https://t.co/0Sp9NK4SEH— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) July 22, 2021
Trump holds up an autographed photo of a murder victim, quips that the man is "Tom Selleck, except better looking." pic.twitter.com/8iOsdCT4xo— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) June 22, 2018
― “Heroin” (ft. Bobby Gillespie) (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 23 July 2021 01:33 (two years ago) link
jfc that second clip. thank you so much for the compliment about my son looking like tom selleck only better
― Z_TBD (Karl Malone), Friday, 23 July 2021 01:41 (two years ago) link
Definitely makes those homicide photos more appealing on Antiques Roadshow
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 23 July 2021 01:42 (two years ago) link
― Z_TBD (Karl Malone), Friday, 23 July 2021 01:43 (two years ago) link
i would like to see them assess the value of those autographed photos. holy shit
In the great flood of raw sewage that was the Trump presidency it's his shining moments like this, or when he started rambling about New York cocktail parties to a Boy Scout Jamboree, that illustrate that he is completely unable to empathize with other human beings on any level whatsoever.
― Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Friday, 23 July 2021 15:25 (two years ago) link
That lack of empathy can on the rare occasion produce gold however, such as when he asked the 7-year old kid if he still believed in Santa, "because at that age it's kind of marginal, right?"
― henry s, Friday, 23 July 2021 17:09 (two years ago) link
he wasn't a regular guy
― treeship., Friday, 23 July 2021 17:29 (two years ago) link
i continue to wonder if i made him up
― Yours in Sorrow, A Schoolboy: (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 28 July 2021 19:38 (two years ago) link
my mouth isn’t filled with bloodm it’s victory wine https://t.co/TR2Ao1UisP— kilgore trout, terminal hiccups patient (@KT_So_It_Goes) July 28, 2021
― “Heroin” (ft. Bobby Gillespie) (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 28 July 2021 20:11 (two years ago) link
this seems very illegal
Donald Trump to DOJ last December: "Just say that the election was corrupt + leave the rest to me" https://t.co/iMWh3QxhHa— CNN Politics (@CNNPolitics) July 30, 2021
― frogbs, Friday, 30 July 2021 16:47 (two years ago) link
When you're president they let you do it.
― Marty J. Bilge (Old Lunch), Friday, 30 July 2021 16:52 (two years ago) link
but somehow, they just can't find the evidence and prove that he was the most corrupt president in our lifetime, easily outranking nixon. it's just too hard to prove it, i guess. federal law, state law, local law, natural law, lord of the flies, martial law - none of them can contain his genius. he is just too tricky, too smart for anyone to bring down. trump is such a smart guy, he really is. great job law!!
― Z_TBD (Karl Malone), Friday, 30 July 2021 16:54 (two years ago) link
only marshall law from tekken could take trump down, which is why trump won't even agree to fight him
I'm so sick of that fuckchop, I wish he would choke on a McRib and die die die
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 30 July 2021 17:12 (two years ago) link
Whoops!
BREAKING:WASHINGTON (AP) — Justice Department tells Treasury to turn over Trump tax returns to Congress.— Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) July 30, 2021
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 30 July 2021 18:06 (two years ago) link
Oh ho ho
― Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 30 July 2021 18:07 (two years ago) link
Now we've got him. At long last. No slipping out this time, Mr. Trum—oh, goddamn it.
― Marty J. Bilge (Old Lunch), Friday, 30 July 2021 18:10 (two years ago) link
A little more
There's a new DOJ memo that says the Treasury Dept. can turn over Trump's tax returns to a House committee: https://t.co/6nMRxSGLNeBut, per ongoing litigation over this, Trump is supposed to get 72-hour notice before it actually happens (aka a window to try to stop it) pic.twitter.com/lLa64QQcLj— Zoe Tillman (@ZoeTillman) July 30, 2021
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 30 July 2021 18:18 (two years ago) link
evergreen
https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/027/463/Screen_Shot_2018-10-24_at_11.08.29_AM.jpg
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 30 July 2021 18:25 (two years ago) link
72 hours from now though, THEN he's caught!
― Z_TBD (Karl Malone), Friday, 30 July 2021 18:29 (two years ago) link
"What, me crimes? No, it's the law that's wrong."
― StanM, Friday, 30 July 2021 18:34 (two years ago) link
Wait I thought he was under audit, perpetually under audit
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 30 July 2021 18:39 (two years ago) link
https://i.imgflip.com/5i4cz3.jpg
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 30 July 2021 19:09 (two years ago) link
― Bo Burzum (Boring, Maryland), Friday, 30 July 2021 19:40 (two years ago) link
Mmm num ba deDum bum ba beDoo buh dum ba beh behCovfefe
― tean mean poleand cheaseang theas means hamseak feasts (breastcrawl), Friday, 30 July 2021 19:41 (two years ago) link
That isn't cow shit, they're Trump Victory Patties!
Oh look, Trump just announced his next rally. In a cow pasture in Alabama. pic.twitter.com/sGwyHiRy1Y— Ron Filipkowski (@RonFilipkowski) August 2, 2021
― “Heroin” (ft. Bobby Gillespie) (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 3 August 2021 03:24 (two years ago) link
Why doesn't he just keep touring like this? It's clearly what he lovers: the roar of the greasepaint, the smell of the crowds. Just be a headliner, being a president is fucking boring and tedious... better just to wind 'em up, and then golf the next morning.
― Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 3 August 2021 03:54 (two years ago) link
What else do you believe he is currently doing?
― bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Tuesday, 3 August 2021 03:55 (two years ago) link
thats all he did in office though, but with the perk of getting to commit unlimited crime
― frogbs, Tuesday, 3 August 2021 03:56 (two years ago) link
plus, the presidency of the USA is the world's biggest stage, attracting the most attention of anyone on Earth.
― it is to laugh, like so, ha! (Aimless), Tuesday, 3 August 2021 03:58 (two years ago) link
But this is where the money's at... funding a super PAC with shadowy bookkeeping, in a cow pasture in Alabama
― Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 3 August 2021 04:02 (two years ago) link
this Vic Berger video is deeply satisfying, it's long but the whole thing is worth a watch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFUr6Px99aQ
― frogbs, Tuesday, 3 August 2021 14:28 (two years ago) link
yes but also a piece of my soul dies every time i watch a vice news video
― aegis philbin (crüt), Tuesday, 3 August 2021 15:15 (two years ago) link
I know michael wolff is sus or whatever, but “landslide” is a good trashy read. The second impeachment trial was truly odd—castor and schoen were extremely underqualified. At one point wolff says that schoen apologized to trump for something and admitted he was “a wimp, sir” and trump just flew off the handle. “My lawyer’s a wimp? A wimp?” Lmao.
― treeship., Wednesday, 4 August 2021 18:30 (two years ago) link
“They should replace the wokesters with Patriots and start winning again. The woman with the purple hair played terribly and spends too much time thinking about Radical Left politics and not doing her job!”
'wokesters'! lolI'm not sure I would go around attacking others' hair, but that's just me
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 5 August 2021 16:22 (two years ago) link
start winning again
They got Bronze in the Olympics. There's only two spots more winning than that.
― “Heroin” (ft. Bobby Gillespie) (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 5 August 2021 16:26 (two years ago) link
America will never be great again with that attitude.
― Soundtracked by an ecojazz mixtape (Tom D.), Thursday, 5 August 2021 16:30 (two years ago) link
At one point wolff says that schoen apologized to trump for something and admitted he was “a wimp, sir” and trump just flew off the handle. “My lawyer’s a wimp? A wimp?” Lmao.
― Bo Burzum (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 5 August 2021 16:42 (two years ago) link
big Artie Fufkin energy there
― A viking of frowns, (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 5 August 2021 16:44 (two years ago) link
KellyAnne was the lone cockroach, the survivor... she probably hid in the ladies room when he was in one of his moods
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 5 August 2021 16:48 (two years ago) link
i'm a wokester, i'm a smoker, i'm a midnight toker
― think “Gypsy-Pixie” and misspelled. (We are a white family.) (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 5 August 2021 16:52 (two years ago) link
Trump's missing out on a good grift by not forming a shadow government and selling Cabinet spots. Mike Lindell would pay big money to be the True Secretary of State.
― Joe Bombin (milo z), Thursday, 5 August 2021 20:14 (two years ago) link
Pillow diplomacy
The gov't in exile should ideally be located at Mar-a-Lagoo, and every administration member pays full price
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 5 August 2021 20:33 (two years ago) link
They could have a Cuban Pillow Crisis
― Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Thursday, 5 August 2021 20:47 (two years ago) link
urethra highway, I like it https://t.co/QzxoU8uqqs— kilgore trout, terminal hiccups patient (@KT_So_It_Goes) August 9, 2021
― “Heroin” (ft. Bobby Gillespie) (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 10 August 2021 02:48 (two years ago) link
I mean, when these brainless chuds call him the greatest president ever, what "achievements" can they even point to to justify it? His reign was one of pathetic failure and spite and failure and self-sabotage and failure. How Herculean must self-delusion be, to take you that far?
― "the fancy things" being his nads, etc (stevie), Tuesday, 10 August 2021 07:06 (two years ago) link
he was the most persecuted, the most attacked
― Read between the lines Zach (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 10 August 2021 10:21 (two years ago) link
That’s easy, he was the greatest to them because he made them feel validated, and spoke directly to their worst impulses, and affirmed their own feelings of being righteous yet constantly wronged by others. And he clarified a confusing and frightening world into simple dichotomies that made sense and reinforced their tribal inclinations- us vs. them, good vs. evil. And he played up the conspiracy theories, subtle winks and secret codes, making them feel like they were part of something big and secretive and important, like some real life Da Vinci Code shit. In short, he made them feel like they’ve been right all along, and like all the worst things about them, that they’ve always been told were bad and should be hidden away or stifled, were actually their greatest virtues.
― epistantophus, Tuesday, 10 August 2021 12:39 (two years ago) link
I mean, tbf, he did make America great again, even if he failed to do it again again.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 10 August 2021 13:17 (two years ago) link
Dropped that corporate tax rate from 35 to 21 % along with many other tax perks for the executive classes. Who gives a shit about the rest, the plebs are easily led by the piper.
― earlnash, Tuesday, 10 August 2021 13:32 (two years ago) link
Greatest economy the world has ever seen iircBut obv epistaphanus is correct. HL Mencken "downright moron" quote n all.
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 10 August 2021 15:27 (two years ago) link
He built THE WALL... he said he was gonna do it, and he did it!
It blew over, and destroyed tribal lands and desert habitat, and it wasn't finished or properly funded, and kids with backpacks can shimmy over it with ease... but he did it!
― Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 10 August 2021 17:01 (two years ago) link
He was so badly mistreated and yet he won, I mean we won
― Read between the lines Zach (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 10 August 2021 17:03 (two years ago) link
The real wall was the one he helped us build between ourselves.
― Marty J. Bilge (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 10 August 2021 17:11 (two years ago) link
he built a wall of his own feces
― there's too much fucking shit on me (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 10 August 2021 17:15 (two years ago) link
He rewrote the Quixote word for word on the Wall, and still it became his story.
― the people of dorchester are marching upon us (Matt #2), Tuesday, 10 August 2021 17:43 (two years ago) link
affirmed their own feelings of being righteous yet constantly wronged by others.
This showed up from a friend of a friend on FB today:
I AM TIRED and It is time for me to vent, please allow me to share my thoughts with you!I’ve worked hard all my life, most times I put in 60-80+ hours a week, sometimes holding down three jobs. I sacrificed being away from my family for days, and sometimes weeks at a time, to provide for them! I made a reasonable salary, but I didn't inherit my job or my income, and I worked to get where I am. I juggled being a father, a husband, a grandfather, a teacher, a bus driver, a business owner, a community servant, an elected official, a friend, and an employee. It wasn’t always easy. I'm no saint, but I DID IT, and I made sacrifices to do it. Sometimes I missed my wife’s, children’s, and grandchildren’s birthdays, school functions, or being able to spend holidays with them! I'm tired of being told that I have to "spread the wealth" to people who don't have my work ethic, sometimes to people that have sacrificed nothing.I'm tired of being told that the government will take the money that I earned, by force if necessary, and give it to people that are too lazy to work!I'm tired of being told that I must lower my living standard to fight global warming, which I am not allowed to debate.I'm tired of hearing wealthy athletes, entertainers, and politicians of all parties, talk like their opinions really matter to the common person.I’m tired of any of these people even pretending that they can relate to my life and circumstances!I'm tired of people with a sense of entitlement, whether they are rich, OR poor.I’m upset that I’m labeled as a racist because I am proud of law enforcement and believe in border security!I’m tired of being told that I need to accept the latest fad, or politically correct stupidity, of befriending a group that is intent on killing me, because I won’t convert to their religion, or their laws.I'm really tired of people who don't take responsibility for their lives and actions, especially the ones that want me to fund it.I'm tired of hearing them blame their problems on discrimination, or the government.I’m also tired of hearing that, because I believe in putting America First, that I’m a racist. I’m tired of hearing that if I believe in Legal Immigration of Immigrants, that I’m cruel, bigoted, insensitive, uncaring, racist and an elitist, just to name a few. Yes, I'm really tired.But, I'm also glad to be in the second half of my life.Because, mostly, I'm not going to have to see the world that these people are creating.I am thankful that I'm on the way out, and not on the way in.I just hate knowing that my children and grandchildren will have to face this screwed up world, which can only be redeemed by putting God back in our homes, schools, and country😪😪😪🙏🙏🙏🇺🇸There is no way that these thoughts will be widely publicized, unless each of us sends it on!Surely, the politically correct Facebook cops will try to quiet us.If you're “tired” too, feel free to copy and paste.
― Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 10 August 2021 17:49 (two years ago) link
"I’m tired of being told that I need to accept the latest fad, or politically correct stupidity, of befriending a group that is intent on killing me, because I won’t convert to their religion, or their laws....But, I'm also glad to be in the second half of my life.Because, mostly, I'm not going to have to see the world that these people are creating.I am thankful that I'm on the way out, and not on the way in."
glad this person's on the way out!
― Read between the lines Zach (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 10 August 2021 17:53 (two years ago) link
I juggled being a father, a husband, a grandfather, a teacher, a bus driver, a business owner, a community servant, an elected official, a friend, and an employee.
Sure you did.
― DJI, Tuesday, 10 August 2021 17:55 (two years ago) link
listing out a bunch of totally common roles like he's working 10 jobs at once
― Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Tuesday, 10 August 2021 17:58 (two years ago) link
"There is no way that these thoughts will be widely publicized"
I've literally heard this same screed, with slight variations, hundreds of times in the past few years alone.
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 10 August 2021 17:58 (two years ago) link
I avoid posting on the annoying phrases thread, but I am tired of "I am tired"
― rob, Tuesday, 10 August 2021 18:01 (two years ago) link
I'm tired of being told that I must lower my living standard to fight global warming, which I am not allowed to debate.
I'm tired of people with a sense of entitlement
hmm ok
― criminally negligible (harbl), Tuesday, 10 August 2021 18:02 (two years ago) link
"of befriending a group that is intent on killing me"
what could this be alluding to?
― Read between the lines Zach (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 10 August 2021 18:03 (two years ago) link
So he owned the bus, drove it, taught his son and grandson how to drive it, was elected transportation czar on his Facebook neighborhood HOA page by a friend, and a clown as well?
― Evan, Tuesday, 10 August 2021 18:03 (two years ago) link
i think the group is muslims, they keep asking him to convert to their religion and be subject to SHARIA LAW
― criminally negligible (harbl), Tuesday, 10 August 2021 18:04 (two years ago) link
I am sleepy
― Evan, Tuesday, 10 August 2021 18:05 (two years ago) link
"I'm tired of hearing them blame their problems on discrimination, or the government."
wait I missed this the first time...wut?
― rob, Tuesday, 10 August 2021 18:06 (two years ago) link
can the following people die in a one huge plane crash:
TrumpAnthony SabatiniGiulianievery former press secretary of DJTDeSantisAbbottRubioAubrey HuffKevin McCarthyMo BrooksBoebertMJGMcConnellCottonTucker CarlsonSean HannityDan BonginoHawley
and then we can call it the day the fascists died
and we'd be singing
― there's too much fucking shit on me (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 10 August 2021 18:08 (two years ago) link
What a surprise the "fuck your feelings" crowd wants the world to bend to the will of their feelings
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 10 August 2021 18:08 (two years ago) link
He’s on his way out, tough. Soon sweet death will arrive to fix everything forhim
― Read between the lines Zach (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 10 August 2021 18:09 (two years ago) link
These people hate Facebook but can't quit it
― Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 10 August 2021 18:09 (two years ago) link
i kind of want sarah huckabee sanders back though
― criminally negligible (harbl), Tuesday, 10 August 2021 18:09 (two years ago) link
I fear Neanderthal's plan would give us President Ben Shapiro
― rob, Tuesday, 10 August 2021 18:12 (two years ago) link
Fun fact: in the Harry Potter universe his name is also a spell that summons a bench out of thin air
― Evan, Tuesday, 10 August 2021 18:16 (two years ago) link
loooool A+!
― Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 10 August 2021 18:28 (two years ago) link
I do like seeing this thread hover in tandem with the obituary thread. As anxious as the latter makes me, it's worth it!
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 10 August 2021 18:35 (two years ago) link
what time was he getting reinstated again today?
― StanM, Friday, 13 August 2021 17:07 (two years ago) link
I juggled being a father, a husband, a grandfather, a teacher, a bus driver, a business owner, a community servant, an elected official, a friend, and an employee. I’m a bitch I’m a lover I’m a child I’m a mother
― Joe Bombin (milo z), Friday, 13 August 2021 17:36 (two years ago) link
A child and a mother, I'll give you.
― i carry the torch for disco inauthenticity (Eric H.), Friday, 13 August 2021 17:40 (two years ago) link
Way Too 'On The Nose', 2021...
The Cullman Alabama Trump rally happening today has penned up his supporters in livestock cages. pic.twitter.com/Z87eISCITX— Sun (@Suncelnumber2) August 21, 2021
― “Heroin” (ft. Bobby Gillespie) (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 22 August 2021 01:40 (two years ago) link
TIL what a sundown town is
― StanM, Sunday, 22 August 2021 04:40 (two years ago) link
one of our more egregiously ugly parts of American history amidst an admittedly overwhelming selection of choices
― Duke Detain (Neanderthal), Sunday, 22 August 2021 17:51 (two years ago) link
can't believe it was only 7 years ago that tim mcgraw released an album called "sundown heaven town" without any controversy
― aegis philbin (crüt), Sunday, 22 August 2021 17:58 (two years ago) link
o_O
― rob, Sunday, 22 August 2021 18:02 (two years ago) link
In the run-up to the 20th anniversary of 9/11, Donald Trump is doing interviews with conservative media - in this case, Hugh Hewitt - suggesting Osama Bin Laden wasn't that big of a deal and wasn't a "monster." pic.twitter.com/3xJXVn2AIM— Mehdi Hasan (@mehdirhasan) August 26, 2021
"The guys I got were bigger!"
― Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 27 August 2021 00:59 (two years ago) link
"bin laden had one hit, and it was a bad one, in New York City, the World Trade Center"
of course, the USS cole was another classic bin laden hit
― professional anti- (Karl Malone), Friday, 27 August 2021 01:22 (two years ago) link
Not many people got killed on 9/11, but each and every one of them started a band.
― and after eel, you're my Wonder Wheel (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 27 August 2021 01:30 (two years ago) link
i'm sure hugh hewitt pressed him closely on this
― professional anti- (Karl Malone), Friday, 27 August 2021 01:32 (two years ago) link
pains me to admit it but this guy could say some deeply funny shit from time to time
― frogbs, Friday, 27 August 2021 01:48 (two years ago) link
― Dan S, Friday, 27 August 2021 02:03 (two years ago) link
― professional anti- (Karl Malone), Thursday, August 26, 2021 9:22 PM (forty-one minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
Bin Laden more of a singles artist; never really put together a cohesive album.
― Taliban! (PBKR), Friday, 27 August 2021 02:06 (two years ago) link
which was his New Jersey
― Duke Detain (Neanderthal), Friday, 27 August 2021 03:09 (two years ago) link
That's a one-hot-attack-every-ten-year averageAnd that's so laaaaaame
― Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Friday, 27 August 2021 13:25 (two years ago) link
bin laden was just doing "that thing you do" starring tom hanks
― criminally negligible (harbl), Friday, 27 August 2021 13:28 (two years ago) link
bid Laden's first group at Oxford... he played bass I think:
https://external-preview.redd.it/zLFjbFP-cy9z4mR-pcBG5ZcDmJTwvTVkMfC2BLVI2t8.jpg
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 27 August 2021 16:27 (two years ago) link
that's him on the right
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/1595000/images/_1595205_laden300.jpg
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 27 August 2021 16:32 (two years ago) link
lmao. frogbs otm unfortunately—Trump could be funny.
― treeship., Friday, 27 August 2021 16:34 (two years ago) link
His way of speaking is so distinctive. The syntax is unmistakable.
― treeship., Friday, 27 August 2021 16:35 (two years ago) link
Donald Trump claims he will invoke executive privilege to block the January 6th committee from obtaining documents from him and members of his administrationOne problem. As a former president, Trump has no authority to invoke executive privilege— Edward Hardy (@EdwardTHardy) August 27, 2021
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 27 August 2021 17:37 (two years ago) link
Such a dipshit, but the way things are going in this timeline it will probably still somehow work.
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 27 August 2021 17:38 (two years ago) link
It probably helps his case somewhat that he's actually still the president and will be returning to the WH any day now.
― Marty J. Bilge (Old Lunch), Friday, 27 August 2021 17:56 (two years ago) link
won't that be a party
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 27 August 2021 17:57 (two years ago) link
bin Laden's first group at Oxford... he played bass I think:
But his sense of time was a bit subpar. His bandmates would secretly refer to him as "Osama's Been Laggin'."
― and after eel, you're my Wonder Wheel (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 27 August 2021 18:00 (two years ago) link
DADDY PLEASE LOVE ME
Lol pic.twitter.com/1L1rIbZoe2— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) September 6, 2021
― Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 8 September 2021 22:26 (two years ago) link
I wonder whose books those are behind him? Some rich people buy random books just to have something on the shelves.
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 9 September 2021 15:54 (two years ago) link
Books by the Foot, it's a real business
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/12/26/books-by-the-foot-washington-dc-covid-books-440347
― Richard Marxist (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 9 September 2021 15:56 (two years ago) link
^ Some real 'heat death of western culture' vibes right there
― Marty J. Bilge (Old Lunch), Thursday, 9 September 2021 16:04 (two years ago) link
Scores of giant reels of old data tape would be a good accent there.
― antebellum tension fatigue (Hunt3r), Thursday, 9 September 2021 16:10 (two years ago) link
A poster of his hair's evolution, like the pictures of glaciers retreating.
― the body of a spider... (scampering alpaca), Thursday, 9 September 2021 16:13 (two years ago) link
yeah. it reminds me of madison cawthorn, who got rid of whatever "policy" employees he had early on in DC and instead set up a "communications team". i won't doomandgloom the entire northern/western hemisphere just yet, but it all points toward a future where political office and/or punditry is like constructing a hollywood set and constructing nothing but an image, leaving all substance behind for good.
easy to say it's already like that, but there are always many degrees of this shit. reagan was a pioneer
― "HYYOOOOOOONK!" is the sound I make (Karl Malone), Thursday, 9 September 2021 16:13 (two years ago) link
or in other words, pee wee herman sits in the little video booth to talk to oprah, turns around and pulls down the "smart politician book backdrop", and then screams "i'm a swing vote, huh-HUH!"
― "HYYOOOOOOONK!" is the sound I make (Karl Malone), Thursday, 9 September 2021 16:14 (two years ago) link
my sincerest negative take on people nowadays is to say “that is not a serious person.”
“not serious” is some kind of amalgamation or conflation of in bad faith, moronic, self-dealing, cruel, damaged, and like, actively traumatized.
― antebellum tension fatigue (Hunt3r), Thursday, 9 September 2021 16:31 (two years ago) link
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― Marty J. Bilge (Old Lunch), Thursday, 9 September 2021 16:32 (two years ago) link
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― "HYYOOOOOOONK!" is the sound I make (Karl Malone), Thursday, 9 September 2021 17:43 (two years ago) link
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― it is to laugh, like so, ha! (Aimless), Thursday, 9 September 2021 17:49 (two years ago) link
Best. President. Ever.
― "HYYOOOOOOONK!" is the sound I make (Karl Malone), Thursday, 9 September 2021 17:51 (two years ago) link
I MADE $10 MILLION PER MONTH PLUS BENNIES FROM HOME WITH NO JOB AS PRESIDENT YOU CAN TOO
― antebellum tension fatigue (Hunt3r), Thursday, 9 September 2021 18:11 (two years ago) link
just remembered this for no reason at allhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JR-rG49bm64
― criminally negligible (harbl), Thursday, 9 September 2021 20:31 (two years ago) link
pretty infuriating to watch the media do the will-he-or-won't-he thing as though he's Brett Favre and not the guy who recently tried to overthrow the government
― frogbs, Friday, 10 September 2021 13:03 (two years ago) link
they know the ratings
― Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Friday, 10 September 2021 14:29 (two years ago) link
they are all so blatantly thirsty to have him in the narrative again, it's absolutely disgusting. i mean i'm not a Biden fan either but the shift by even the faux ""liberal"" outlets to blaming the entirety of two decades in Afghanistan on him and pinning COVID to him entirely is showing their whole ass.
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 10 September 2021 14:33 (two years ago) link
The entire thrust of Big Media at this point is to attain those sweet sweet clicks/eyeballs on screens by any means, no matter how debased.
― Marty J. Bilge (Old Lunch), Friday, 10 September 2021 14:50 (two years ago) link
yeah I mean look at this bullshit
Thinner, more energetic Kim Jong Un steals the spotlight at North Korea parade https://t.co/BXeiWQWvfS— CBS News (@CBSNews) September 10, 2021
― frogbs, Friday, 10 September 2021 15:05 (two years ago) link
Journalism is just one of the many archaic concepts of yesteryear that we'll have to explain at length to the youth of tomorrow.
― Marty J. Bilge (Old Lunch), Friday, 10 September 2021 15:16 (two years ago) link
"Kim Jong Un.. you're gonna like the way you look. I guarantee it."
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 10 September 2021 16:54 (two years ago) link
Is this Holyfield commentary thing real?!
― crisp, Friday, 10 September 2021 17:04 (two years ago) link
Um, exactly how hard is it for Kim Jong Un to "steal the spotlight" at any time in North Korea?
― it is to laugh, like so, ha! (Aimless), Friday, 10 September 2021 17:51 (two years ago) link
The spotlight once tried to escape North Korea, but Kim Jong Un caught it, brought it back, tortured it, and it's now starving in a prison work camp, forced to shine on him on command.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 10 September 2021 17:54 (two years ago) link
how long does he go into the boxing commentary before whining about the election? I'd give him about 3 minutes.
― frogbs, Friday, 10 September 2021 17:56 (two years ago) link
"Mike Tyson bit this guy's ear off, remember? That's dirty fighting. Just like the Democrats and Sleepy Joe."
― Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Friday, 10 September 2021 18:08 (two years ago) link
Gonna have to be careful using terms like "rigged" and "fixed" when it comes to boxing. Unlike politics, there may be actual repercussions for starting shit and making claims of cheating in this particular industry.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 10 September 2021 18:14 (two years ago) link
Sad lol
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Friday, 10 September 2021 18:33 (two years ago) link
He gave a paid speech to a cult. On 9/11. Before announcing a pay-per-view boxing match. Once again, on 9/11. https://t.co/j3vJev9nwM— Parker Molloy (@ParkerMolloy) September 12, 2021
― Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 12 September 2021 16:54 (two years ago) link
he can't do dumb things on 9/11
not my president
― "HYYOOOOOOONK!" is the sound I make (Karl Malone), Sunday, 12 September 2021 18:13 (two years ago) link
Donald Trump is worried about a Saturday rally in support of those arrested during the January 6th attack on the U.S. Capitol by his supporters seeking to overturn the election.
"Mr. Trump, aides said, has little interest in engaging with the protest and has no plans to be anywhere near Washington on Saturday," The New York Times reported Wednesday. "Instead, his schedule includes a golf tournament at his Bedminster, N.J., club before he heads back down to his Mar-a-Lago resort in Florida, according to people familiar with his schedule."
"Mr. Trump views the planned protest as a setup that the news media will use against him regardless of the outcome," the newspaper reported, citing "people familiar with his thinking."
'People familiar with his thinking' = just about everyone, right?
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 16 September 2021 18:07 (two years ago) link
"people" familiar with his "thinking"
― Richard Marxist (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 16 September 2021 18:08 (two years ago) link
I think his disdain for this particular rally centers around the estimated crowd size... less than a thousand.
If 40,000 were expected, he'd be there in a heartbeat.
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 16 September 2021 18:08 (two years ago) link
xpost aka his toilet
― you had me at "giallo" (Neanderthal), Thursday, 16 September 2021 18:09 (two years ago) link
I suspect that, um, this isn’t true and Mr. Trump is already salivating.
― Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 16 September 2021 18:10 (two years ago) link
Well, the organizers requested that nobody bring Trump flags or wear Trump schwag, so where's the fun in that?
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 16 September 2021 18:12 (two years ago) link
I'll be in the city that day. I'm not concerned. The organizers' permit stated they expect a maximum of 700 people and I’d be surprised if half that shows up. If the big man ain't there there's no interest.
― Porking level G4 (Boring, Maryland), Friday, 17 September 2021 00:56 (two years ago) link
someone should do a "LImp Bizkit is at 7/11" type prank suggesting Trump is at various terrible public locations (ie portapotty warehouse), take pictures of the people that show up, and then steal their cars
― you had me at "giallo" (Neanderthal), Friday, 17 September 2021 00:59 (two years ago) link
lmao https://t.co/PsTHePoB5U pic.twitter.com/H7dPZAjyMb— It’s-a Tyler Dinucci 🤌🏼 (@TylerDinucci) September 18, 2021
― Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 19 September 2021 02:54 (two years ago) link
Folks, first Trump football pic.twitter.com/Qb8T75AgH4— Josh Marshall (@joshtpm) September 19, 2021
― Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 21 September 2021 02:57 (two years ago) link
Richard Nixon didn't sign a football, because (all together now)
― Mark G, Tuesday, 21 September 2021 09:19 (two years ago) link
🎶 ... a football killed his family. 🎶
― i carry the torch for disco inauthenticity (Eric H.), Tuesday, 21 September 2021 12:49 (two years ago) link
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2014/11/13/upshot/15UP-Beschlos-sNixon/15UP-Beschlos-sNixon-superJumbo.jpg
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 21 September 2021 13:08 (two years ago) link
And here he is with the nuclear footballhttps://nsarchive.gwu.edu/sites/default/files/thumbnails/image/photo-3-37-whpo-e2360-13-a-2020-rp-nixon-and-milaide-2.jpg
Surprised Trump didn't steal one and sign *that*.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 21 September 2021 13:09 (two years ago) link
They probably gave him a real football and wrote NUKLEEAR on it in magic marker
― Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Tuesday, 21 September 2021 13:44 (two years ago) link
Wants to lock up Zuck and endorsed Stacey Abrams for GA governor.
― papal hotwife (milo z), Sunday, 26 September 2021 01:17 (two years ago) link
when he’s right, he’s right
― bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Sunday, 26 September 2021 02:03 (two years ago) link
and here I thought milo was a one trick pony but now we’re boosting Trump
― epistantophus, Sunday, 26 September 2021 02:16 (two years ago) link
/pointless snark
― epistantophus, Sunday, 26 September 2021 02:17 (two years ago) link
gonna be hard to explain to future generations how impossibly weird this guy was
Trump’s handlers designated a White House official known as the “Music Man” to play him his favorite show tunes, including “Memory” from “Cats,” to pull him from the brink of rage, Grisham writes in her new memoir. @katierogers has the details. https://t.co/PQbuFMnFyB— Peter Baker (@peterbakernyt) September 28, 2021
― frogbs, Tuesday, 28 September 2021 15:45 (two years ago) link
he was only soothed by the all assholes version of Cats
― Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Tuesday, 28 September 2021 16:02 (two years ago) link
Punch meit's so easy to leave melying down on the pavementbleeding out in the sun
If you punch meyou'll understand what happiness iseven though Ireally won
― Gardyloominati (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 28 September 2021 16:02 (two years ago) link
https://t.co/4Fu6T1WdWP pic.twitter.com/CVMhX1Xpvk— kilgore trout, ron desantis spokesperson (@KT_So_It_Goes) September 28, 2021
― Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 28 September 2021 16:03 (two years ago) link
*sits future generations down to watch Dr. Strangelove*
“It was kind of like that, but terrifying in different ways”
― Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 28 September 2021 16:23 (two years ago) link
Yeah, Strangelove was President.
― Taliban! (PBKR), Tuesday, 28 September 2021 17:04 (two years ago) link
Biden admin tell-all, circa 2029: "I saw it, we all saw it - he put Splenda on a half grapefruit."
― Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 28 September 2021 17:49 (two years ago) link
To be added to the "sir" file:He was there for like 40 years or something. He was a part of the furniture. But if you think about it, I really did pretty much the opposite of whatever he said," Trump said.
"I actually got along with him, you know? I actually found him–he was a character. He'd say, 'Just call me Tony. Just call me Tony, sir.' And, you know, he's a better promoter than he is a doctor."
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 28 September 2021 18:37 (two years ago) link
is he going to force the Nobel Peace Prize committee to recount the votes?
― StanM, Friday, 8 October 2021 09:54 (two years ago) link
Only thing that will come out is the Senate Judiciary Committee will ask Trump to return the VCR tape of Schoolhouse Rock's "The Constitution".
― earlnash, Friday, 8 October 2021 14:14 (two years ago) link
But they won't want to see what he's taped over it with.
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 8 October 2021 14:23 (two years ago) link
"...there's a time for love and a time for living, you take a chance and face the wi..."
― Gardyloominati (Neanderthal), Friday, 8 October 2021 14:33 (two years ago) link
“…The facts of life, the facts of life!”
― And of course the worms! (Boring, Maryland), Friday, 8 October 2021 14:52 (two years ago) link
“We loved Mrs. Garrett, didn’t we folks?”
― And of course the worms! (Boring, Maryland), Friday, 8 October 2021 14:53 (two years ago) link
can we not revive this thread until he dies
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 8 October 2021 14:56 (two years ago) link
That would be "Classic."
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 8 October 2021 15:07 (two years ago) link
can we not revive Trump if he dies
― Gardyloominati (Neanderthal), Friday, 8 October 2021 15:08 (two years ago) link
― And of course the worms! (Boring, Maryland), Friday, 8 October 2021 16:55 (two years ago) link
Trump's Blue Check FB page apparently was restored earlier this week. The last posts were on 1/6.
― Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 8 October 2021 17:51 (two years ago) link
i think he has learned his lesson
― typo hell #12: a hundreds of millions of people (Karl Malone), Friday, 8 October 2021 17:52 (two years ago) link
I don't think he's allowed to post...also it's been back for a while, apparently?
― I'm a sovereign jazz citizen (the table is the table), Friday, 8 October 2021 18:04 (two years ago) link
I dunno, just saw some Trump stans/Q followers excitedly posting about it a few days ago.
The White House has agreed to turn over Trump's 1/6 records to the investigation committee.
― Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 8 October 2021 19:58 (two years ago) link
it's just a bunch of tv guides with certain shows circled in sharpie
― typo hell #12: a hundreds of millions of people (Karl Malone), Friday, 8 October 2021 20:00 (two years ago) link
TV guides? Thought he was 24/7 glued to the Gorilla Channel.
― henry s, Friday, 8 October 2021 20:29 (two years ago) link
CGM: What is a Blue Check Facebook page?
― clemenza, Friday, 8 October 2021 21:06 (two years ago) link
Verified Account, so it's authentic and not an imposter or fan page.
― Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 8 October 2021 21:23 (two years ago) link
Damn. I was hoping it was a FB page where they had a special Blue Check Panel monitoring it intently 24/7.
― clemenza, Friday, 8 October 2021 21:26 (two years ago) link
Forgot this happened:
pic.twitter.com/PC86kKTMsw— SNL Hosts Introducing the Musical Guest (@snlhostsintro) October 8, 2021
― Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 9 October 2021 04:02 (two years ago) link
I forgot about gorilla channel!
― When Young Sheldon began to rap (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 9 October 2021 06:30 (two years ago) link
That revived FB page is so weird. It still has a Trump/Pence banner up top, and the last posts are from Jan. 6.
― clemenza, Saturday, 9 October 2021 20:42 (two years ago) link
With all the rigged election stuff, and all the FB disclaimers. Why would they restore all the posts that got him booted off in the first place?
― clemenza, Saturday, 9 October 2021 20:44 (two years ago) link
Possibly as evidence?
― Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 9 October 2021 23:31 (two years ago) link
The man never listened to Toots & The Maytals in his life. pic.twitter.com/vtFHpXkCrr— Dan (@WarioArgento) October 8, 2021
― Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 9 October 2021 23:33 (two years ago) link
Still out there on the Neverending Rally...
WE WILL BAN CRITICAL RACE THEORY IN A BOX.WE WILL BAN IT WITH A FOX.I DO NOT LIKE IT IN A HOUSE.I DO NOT LIKE IT WITH A MOUSE.I DO NOT LIKE THAT THEORY HERE OR THERE.I DO NOT LIKE IT ANYWHERE.I DO NOT LIKE CRITICAL RACE THEORYI DO NOT LIKE IT WHERE-EVIE https://t.co/bqP0Z88fMo— David Freedlander (@freedlander) October 10, 2021
― Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 10 October 2021 04:01 (two years ago) link
This seems to me more important and dangerous than a lot of symbolic stuff he does, a thoroughgoing endorsement of the violent vanguard that nearly reached members of Congress, but it’s getting almost zero pickup in mainstream outlets and no condemnation from Republicans. https://t.co/lREDsPALZZ— southpaw (@nycsouthpaw) October 11, 2021
― Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 11 October 2021 22:45 (two years ago) link
he's been doing it for so long, though. it was more "brazen" today because he went ahead and said happy birthday to the fake martyr at the same time -- could be a potential holiday in the post 2024 red states -- but he and everyone around him have been building this up for months. remember when he was grifting people back on the obama birth certificate stuff? sometimes it would get covered, sometimes it wouldn't. it was in plain sight and everyone knew it was wrong and racist and just evil and self-serving, and then he ran for president and no one ever mentioned it.
― typo hell #12: a hundreds of millions of people (Karl Malone), Monday, 11 October 2021 22:49 (two years ago) link
god, it just brings me back to the 2016 debates, with hillary clinton, and of course everyone has an idea in their head of what _they'd_ say to donald trump to just really corner him and knock him out, i mean it must be so easy right? siiiiigh, deep sighhh at myself mainly. but a lot of people felt like that. and in my head, i'd be like "what about obama's birth certificate?! you promoted that racist conspiracy theory, you were the face of it for years! and it was based on total bullshit and everyone knew it! that was only 2 years ago! why should anyone believe you have better judgment now?!" and then the moderators stand up and applaud and the flag is raised on my side as donald's platform gets hydraulically lowered by 10 feet compared to my side
― typo hell #12: a hundreds of millions of people (Karl Malone), Monday, 11 October 2021 22:53 (two years ago) link
anyways, the point is, this shit happens in plain sight and it's just normal now because he normalized it on a broad scale
― typo hell #12: a hundreds of millions of people (Karl Malone), Monday, 11 October 2021 22:54 (two years ago) link
Former Trump campaign manager Corey Lewandowski is no longer allowed on Trump properties or at Trump parties after a high-profile donor accused him of sexual misconduct...
'Donor' being the key word here
― Andy the Grasshopper, Monday, 11 October 2021 22:57 (two years ago) link
when you drive down a highway in the middle of nowhere, any state, and a white person passes you in the car, they're probably a fucking asshole. those are just the percentages. if they're in a city, hey some white people, some of them are cool ok. but if you're in a rural area, any state pretty much, it's better than 50/50 odds that this person either votes for trump or nods along to all that shit.
to me that is terrifying, and i say that with the obvious benefit of not being an immediate target. but even with that, it's just terrifying to me, to be in rural areas and walk around places and just be in the midst of total hysteria, just the fuckenn worst ever
― typo hell #12: a hundreds of millions of people (Karl Malone), Monday, 11 October 2021 22:57 (two years ago) link
Karl I obviously understand your despair but I need to remind you that widespread, baldfaced lying and enshrinement of white supremacy by our presidents has been a thing for ...uh... a pretty long time. The number of times the US has put military boots to the ground in other countries under false pretenses is enough to convince anyone of this fact, and that's just one arena of untruth and misrepresentation.
What is different is that with widespread social media usage and increased class and racial stratification, the ability for people to either reject these lies outright or strongly get behind them *as lies* has become more vocal, and in the latter case, more unhinged.
― I'm a sovereign jazz citizen (the table is the table), Monday, 11 October 2021 23:05 (two years ago) link
It's like, we all knew W was lying. Everyone knew he was lying.
Same with Bush Sr. and Reagan.
And to be fucking honest, same with Obama and Clinton, too.
― I'm a sovereign jazz citizen (the table is the table), Monday, 11 October 2021 23:07 (two years ago) link
But that's obvious, all politicians are lying sacks of shit, this country is doomed, etc.
― I'm a sovereign jazz citizen (the table is the table), Monday, 11 October 2021 23:08 (two years ago) link
i think all of that is true, but there was a difference. you may have known. many people here probably knew. i'm talking about this:
i truly believe that most people reading this knew, most of those times. maybe not, but i think of ilxors as people who tend to "know" things at a rate that is above average, and you know what? i'll take it. BUT
it was still coded, or hidden. there was still an attempt to at least cover it with a veneer of plausibility or at least a competently constructed chart or something. that, alone, was enough to create a whole subclass of george will / david brooks "respectable" centrists that could be the "intellectual" (ugh) face of the GOP and the punditry, etc.
i believe that what's happening now is categorically different than that. i understand that this all goes way back. it's not new, donald trump didn't invent it, i get all that. i'm saying that shit gets real when the veneer wears off, when suddenly it becomes very clear that if you stand with THIS, you are standing for a fascist autocrat. ----waitwaitwaitwaitwait i know, that was also very clear in 2016. in fact, everyone here is so smart that THEY knew that the fascist autocracy was coming in the mid-70s. but now, all the excuses are gone, it's not even debated, there's no other explanation for trump. it's just are you for the christian fascist party or not. it's different, not because it feels different to any of you (of course it doesn't -- you already knew it would happen) but because it feels different to other people
― typo hell #12: a hundreds of millions of people (Karl Malone), Monday, 11 October 2021 23:28 (two years ago) link
and so, to me at least, it is different now, and terrifying, to drive down rural highways and know that the person is not only likely a trump voter, but also that a "trump voter" is something kind of new, kind of like being a "wallace voter" in the 60s, only wallace is dominant
― typo hell #12: a hundreds of millions of people (Karl Malone), Monday, 11 October 2021 23:30 (two years ago) link
Normally when somebody loses the presidency (and perhaps loses Congress as well), the defeated party pretty much shuns them and stops inviting them to things, at least for awhile. That didn't happen here. The big loser that lost everything is arguably still the top republican, and there isn't even a splinter faction to speak of.
― Andy the Grasshopper, Monday, 11 October 2021 23:44 (two years ago) link
just like when Bush Sr lost, right? lol
god, also the fact that since Bush Sr lost, republicans have only won the popular vote ONCE in a presidential election, and even that was close
― typo hell #12: a hundreds of millions of people (Karl Malone), Monday, 11 October 2021 23:46 (two years ago) link
The moment a democrat wins the electoral without the popular, only then will the GOP call for dismantling the Electoral College.. it's worked out pretty well for them overall
― Andy the Grasshopper, Monday, 11 October 2021 23:48 (two years ago) link
but i see table's point. and it's sad, just thinking - during the last few decades, as we've tilted toward elections where democrats must carry 55-60% of the vote in order to have a chance of holding majorities, i'm sure good old bush sr and many of his pals had a good idea of what was coming ahead.
i'm just saying, i think things are different now because that evil scum has been totally revealed and there's no easy excuse for doofuses to point to anymore. things are very stark now
― typo hell #12: a hundreds of millions of people (Karl Malone), Monday, 11 October 2021 23:49 (two years ago) link
A one term president who lost by seven million votes might rethink his platform and messaging, but that also not the case here... he's doubling down. Critical race theory? Does he even know what that is? No, he doesn't, but it's good for some applause.
Even the freaking Taliban seem to know this
― Andy the Grasshopper, Monday, 11 October 2021 23:56 (two years ago) link
but...do you see how it doesn't matter?
― typo hell #12: a hundreds of millions of people (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 12 October 2021 00:04 (two years ago) link
put aside whether it should matter (though not permanently - god, please, let us all maintain our ideas of why it SHOULD matter!)
but do you see how it doesn't matter?
― typo hell #12: a hundreds of millions of people (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 12 October 2021 00:05 (two years ago) link
sometimes people want a King.
i imagine rolled eyes, but maybe not. sometimes people want a king. christians want a King. they want a king to come and return and rule for eternity. that's part of being a christian. that's most of the people in the US, still. the aggrieved white christian minority. so hard for them, and yet, when it comes down to it they all want a king
― typo hell #12: a hundreds of millions of people (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 12 October 2021 00:07 (two years ago) link
so it shouldn't be surprising that when a wannabe autocrat comes along, no matter how incompetent they are, and they have the correct answer on abortion, they are the king
― typo hell #12: a hundreds of millions of people (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 12 October 2021 00:08 (two years ago) link
Since losing both elections he ran in hasn't diminished his power, the only real question is, would a... non-electoral solution (think JFK) do anything? In that situation, would someone equally compelling spring up in his place? I doubt it. People are forever talking about how "if it's not him, it'll be someone like him, but smarter and more competent," but I don't think that's true. And I think there's an easy(ish) and obvious way to prove that hypothesis.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 12 October 2021 00:15 (two years ago) link
'non-electoral solution'
I'm thinking choking on a hot wing bone, but whatever works
― Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 12 October 2021 00:18 (two years ago) link
No, it's got to be obviously external.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 12 October 2021 00:24 (two years ago) link
Getting back to the Ashli Babbit thing I think Jeet Heer was saying that she’s becoming Trumpworld’s Horst Wessel in a new Dolchstosslegend.
― And of course the worms! (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 12 October 2021 00:34 (two years ago) link
Not sure what you’re saying unperson. the only non-electoral solution that seems to be on the horizon to me is legislatures in republican states, by the laws they are enacting now, overturning legitimate vote counts in 2024 to install their preferred candidate, Trump
― Dan S, Tuesday, 12 October 2021 00:54 (two years ago) link
I'm talking about the kind of non-electoral solution that involves a man in a high place with a rifle.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 12 October 2021 01:11 (two years ago) link
:) ok get it now
― Dan S, Tuesday, 12 October 2021 01:19 (two years ago) link
BACK and to the LEFT.
https://thumbs.gfycat.com/AromaticBelatedJapanesebeetle-max-1mb.gif
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 12 October 2021 01:22 (two years ago) link
Oliver Stone's DJT
― Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 12 October 2021 01:27 (two years ago) link
No rolled eyes here, I think this is absolutely true and always has been. The idea that everyone likes or is on board with democracy, I just don't see it. The rural peasant class in multiple democracies resisted the introduction of democracy in the first place, I don't see that that has fundamentally changed
I think the fascism angle isn't the right one, its monarchy/aristocracy rather than fascism (which I think certainly overlaps but isn't what we're seeing here).
― anvil, Tuesday, 12 October 2021 08:02 (two years ago) link
i think they want a solomon but they're going to get a fascist instead
― typo hell #12: a hundreds of millions of people (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 12 October 2021 08:05 (two years ago) link
a lot of people on ilx haven't prayed in a long time, i'd wager. here is a contemporary prayer:
Pray for him to have courage. Because I can tell you that when you step into this, everybody’s out to get you. Everybody’s out to make you look bad. And there’s a lot of you know, there’s a lot of just spiritual warfare stuff that seems to happen in the middle of it. Like, I don’t fully understand why this audit is so pivotal in what’s happening in our country right now. But it is in the spiritual realm. It’s not just in the physical realm. It has a core impact of where our country is going. And I’m truly believing for revival. I don’t know how revival comes out of an audit, but that’s what I’ve been praying for.
that was the ceo of the bullshit "arizona audit" company cyber ninjas (oh, stfu people who name these things)https://flux.community/right-wing-watch/peter-montgomery/2021/10/ceo-company-hired-arizona-republicans-says-americans-must
after the audit found nothing, the ceo of cyber ninjas and virginia state senator and shitlord Amanda Chase held a call with a bunch of christians to complain about how persecuted they were and share good thoughts about how the apocalypse is nigh.
IFA’s Kris Kubal told listeners to be encouraged, saying that if God were done with America, “there would be no battle,” adding that “We know that God still has plans and purposes because the enemy is trying his best to stop them.”When Chase joined the call, she commended Logan, saying, “He has the mind of Christ,” adding that she knew that whatever the “audit” revealed, “it’s gonna be the truth.”Chase complained about Democrats’ control of the Virginia statehouse and legislature, claiming, “I basically live in a Marxist state.” She complained about being censured for saying that the 2020 election was stolen and for having a plexiglass wall built around her desk when she refused to wear a mask. “You just would not even believe the amount of persecution” she said.She charged that “there was complete maladministration by Maricopa County” and claimed, “They just obstructed justice.” Republican officials in Maricopa County and journalists have repeatedly discredited the “audit” as procedurally flawed and a partisan ploy.Chase said that we are living in the End Times and that things written about in the biblical book of Revelation are being fulfilled, but that there is still work to do. “Virginia is not a lost cause,” she said, urging people to pray for the state’s elections and saying that “the best number one solution for Virginia to have better election integrity is to elect a Republican governor, lieutenant governor, attorney general, and replace all the members in the House so that we have Republican majority.” Having a Republican governor, she said, would mean a state election board with a Republican majority, “and that will change everything.”Chase said that the “election integrity caucus” she started has had five or six phone calls. Caucus members are still reviewing and digesting the Cyber Ninjas’ final report, she said, before releasing a statement on behalf of the group.Logan closed the session with a prayer for revival, asking, “May our nation remember its roots, its Christian roots, oh God, and may they turn away from their wicked ways.”
When Chase joined the call, she commended Logan, saying, “He has the mind of Christ,” adding that she knew that whatever the “audit” revealed, “it’s gonna be the truth.”
Chase complained about Democrats’ control of the Virginia statehouse and legislature, claiming, “I basically live in a Marxist state.” She complained about being censured for saying that the 2020 election was stolen and for having a plexiglass wall built around her desk when she refused to wear a mask. “You just would not even believe the amount of persecution” she said.
She charged that “there was complete maladministration by Maricopa County” and claimed, “They just obstructed justice.” Republican officials in Maricopa County and journalists have repeatedly discredited the “audit” as procedurally flawed and a partisan ploy.
Chase said that we are living in the End Times and that things written about in the biblical book of Revelation are being fulfilled, but that there is still work to do. “Virginia is not a lost cause,” she said, urging people to pray for the state’s elections and saying that “the best number one solution for Virginia to have better election integrity is to elect a Republican governor, lieutenant governor, attorney general, and replace all the members in the House so that we have Republican majority.” Having a Republican governor, she said, would mean a state election board with a Republican majority, “and that will change everything.”
Chase said that the “election integrity caucus” she started has had five or six phone calls. Caucus members are still reviewing and digesting the Cyber Ninjas’ final report, she said, before releasing a statement on behalf of the group.
Logan closed the session with a prayer for revival, asking, “May our nation remember its roots, its Christian roots, oh God, and may they turn away from their wicked ways.”
what do they want? monarchy? fascism? theocracy? heaven on earth? they want heaven on earth. does anyone _want_ fascism? not really, since mussolini. but they'll get some version of it
― typo hell #12: a hundreds of millions of people (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 12 October 2021 08:11 (two years ago) link
“Virginia is not a lost cause,” she said
with no apparent awareness, at all, of anything that had ever happened
― typo hell #12: a hundreds of millions of people (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 12 October 2021 08:13 (two years ago) link
The rural peasant class in multiple democracies resisted the introduction of democracy in the first place, I don't see that that has fundamentally changed
To be fair the introduction of democracy didn't include the rural peasant class at all in most cases (only allowing votes for ppl w/ a certain degree of schooling, heads of households, etc.)
― Daniel_Rf, Tuesday, 12 October 2021 09:51 (two years ago) link
many would argue that the introduction of democracy did not include almost everyone
― typo hell #12: a hundreds of millions of people (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 12 October 2021 09:59 (two years ago) link
Like any women at all.
― Starmer: "Let the children boogie, let all the children boogie." (Tom D.), Tuesday, 12 October 2021 10:12 (two years ago) link
― And of course the worms! (Boring, Maryland), Monday, October 11, 2021 8:34 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink
A second trump term would be more surreal and fucked up than the first. It must be presented.
― treeship., Tuesday, 12 October 2021 12:15 (two years ago) link
Saw an interview with Babbit's mom. She insists that she supports the police, but that the capital police are not real police and should be investigated. Also, that the election was stolen, there's been a cover up, and that her daughter died fighting for the truth.
These people barely know which way is up.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 12 October 2021 12:22 (two years ago) link
I forgive her mom. Her daughter was shot. She truly doesn’t know what way is up. The former president is going on tv to wish her dead daughter happy birthday and proclaim her total innocence, that in fact she was a martyr. All those things make perfect sense to a grieving family. I blame everyone else
― typo hell #12: a hundreds of millions of people (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 12 October 2021 12:44 (two years ago) link
Semi related, but doesn't the father of one of the survivors of the Parkland massacre now think his son is a crisis actor?
― anvil, Tuesday, 12 October 2021 13:11 (two years ago) link
I read that long New Yorker piece on Kyle Rittenhouse, and at the end of it I did kind of emerge thinking "I blame everyone else." Because he *was* led astray, and other people actively took advantage of him, and so on. But then I shook myself out of it and recalibrated. "No, wait, fuck that kid, he was definitely vulnerable and taken advantage of and exploited, but he still went out of his way to shoot three people."
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 12 October 2021 13:26 (two years ago) link
Karl, your points well-taken regarding my comments from yesterday. You have to understand that in the world I was in as a teenager, the teens read Harper's and the adults had "WAR IS NOT THE ANSWER" stickers on their Volvos— I think that a lot of people knew what was happening was a sham, same with the 2000 election, but that my environment was much more progressive than most, so I sometimes forget how gung-ho jingoist the rest of this godforsaken country still was when Baghdad was lit up in 2003.
― I'm a sovereign jazz citizen (the table is the table), Tuesday, 12 October 2021 19:47 (two years ago) link
Who could have known that The King would be a twice-divorced, serially bankrupt casino developer smothered in tanning spray?
Mysterious ways, indeed
― Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 12 October 2021 19:59 (two years ago) link
Really want to know his take on the Bad Art Friend.
― And of course the worms! (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 12 October 2021 21:06 (two years ago) link
Don't Threaten Me With A Good Time!
🤔 Trump just threatened to have Republican voters stay home in 2022 and 2024 unless the party is able to "solve" (by which he seems to mean overturn) the result of the last presidential election, which he lost. pic.twitter.com/sHvXHrKZtH— Sahil Kapur (@sahilkapur) October 13, 2021
― Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 14 October 2021 05:34 (two years ago) link
Trump to launch new social media platform TRUTH Social
TMTG, which he chairs, also intends to launch a subscription video-on-demand service.
TMTG said its video-on-demand service would "feature 'non-woke' entertainment programming, news, podcasts, and more"..
Finally a venue for the Song of the South/Faces of Death dream pairing
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 21 October 2021 16:29 (two years ago) link
Excited for a group of bored teens to hack this site and dox everyone who signs up
― Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Thursday, 21 October 2021 16:33 (two years ago) link
But within hours, pranksters found what appeared to be an unreleased test version and posted a picture of a defecating pig to the “donaldjtrump” account.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2021/10/21/trump-truth-social-fake-accounts/
― Profiles in Liquid Courage (WmC), Thursday, 21 October 2021 16:35 (two years ago) link
Apparently there is no platform yet, just a sign-up page
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 21 October 2021 16:39 (two years ago) link
The site looks almost entirely like a Twitter clone: A user can post Truths, which are like tweets, or Re-Truths, which are retweets. There’s also a news feed, called the Truth Feed, a notification system so users can know “who’s interacting with your TRUTH’s,” the social network’s App Store profile states.
so far beyond parody
― John Stockton buying a used car from (Karl Malone), Thursday, 21 October 2021 16:39 (two years ago) link
there was one, the skeleton of one. they took it down after signing up donaldjtrump and mikepence (pranking teens and a washington post reporter, respectively) within a couple hours
― John Stockton buying a used car from (Karl Malone), Thursday, 21 October 2021 16:40 (two years ago) link
The best part of that fake profile was the profile pic was the taco bowl photo.
― Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 21 October 2021 16:42 (two years ago) link
TRUTH can't handle the truth.
― i carry the torch for disco inauthenticity (Eric H.), Thursday, 21 October 2021 16:42 (two years ago) link
Thank u for new dn
― (a picture of a defecating pig) (Old Lunch), Thursday, 21 October 2021 16:42 (two years ago) link
This will all be a foggy memory by Xmas
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 21 October 2021 16:44 (two years ago) link
Dude can't run an Atlantic City casino, much less a media empire
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 21 October 2021 16:45 (two years ago) link
― Linda and Jodie Rocco (map), Thursday, 21 October 2021 16:49 (two years ago) link
nah, by next year there will be a liberal version called TRUTH Bader Ginsberg
― Chappies banging dustbin lids together (President Keyes), Thursday, 21 October 2021 16:51 (two years ago) link
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 21 October 2021 16:54 (two years ago) link
Got a foggy notion #OneThread
― Double Chocula (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 21 October 2021 16:59 (two years ago) link
What happens if some Trumper posts a Truth that is not exactly The Truth? (Highly unlikely, if not impossible, but bear with me here.)
https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/gameshows/images/7/7a/Toc50.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20101217062650
― Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Thursday, 21 October 2021 17:19 (two years ago) link
Oh, they get their IMG link removed.
― Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Thursday, 21 October 2021 17:20 (two years ago) link
There will be 2, yes TWO, moderators who will carefully scrutinize each TRUTH for traces of untruths
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 21 October 2021 17:21 (two years ago) link
I hope the Truths come with Verrit codes
― JoeStork, Thursday, 21 October 2021 17:29 (two years ago) link
It's such low-hanging fruit it's almost not even worth reaching for it, but...99% of his tweets contained provable falsehoods so of COURSE his site is called TRUTH.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 21 October 2021 17:44 (two years ago) link
I'm tempted to say, "Mods, close this thread"? What is there to discuss? If he runs for president again, create another thread.
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 21 October 2021 17:45 (two years ago) link
Move for the next thread title to be Donald Trump: Classic or Dead?
― i carry the torch for disco inauthenticity (Eric H.), Thursday, 21 October 2021 17:49 (two years ago) link
If he runs for president again
Pretty sure that boat has sailed
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 21 October 2021 17:53 (two years ago) link
Never underestimate a grifter grifting. The rest is MSNBCC hand-wringing.
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 21 October 2021 17:56 (two years ago) link
lol MSNBC
OL, the picture was specifically a pig defecating onto its own testicles, if you want to truly honor the moment.
― bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Thursday, 21 October 2021 18:05 (two years ago) link
I am looking forward to this platform failing so I can use "truth decay" as a joek
― mothersbaugh of invention (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 21 October 2021 18:09 (two years ago) link
sometimes i find it difficult to keep track of all the criminal and civil litigation against trump. here is a handy guide:
https://www.justsecurity.org/75032/litigation-tracker-pending-criminal-and-civil-cases-against-donald-trump/
Key Takeaways1. E. Jean Carroll Defamation and Federal Tort Claims Act LitigationCarroll is suing Trump for defamation after he publicly accused her of fabricating a rape allegation against him. The parties are currently involved in an appeal before the Second Circuit, where Trump (and so far, the Justice Department as well) is arguing that he had official immunity from Carroll’s defamation claim under the Federal Tort Claims Act (FTCA).2. Summer Zervos Defamation SuitSummer Zervos, a former contestant on the Apprentice, has filed a civil suit against former President Trump for defamation after he claimed her allegations of his inappropriate sexual conduct were lies designed to help the Clinton campaign and improve her fame. The case is currently at the New York Court of Appeals, the highest New York state court. Update: On Oct. 4, 2021, the trial court ruled that Trump could be deposed before Dec. 23, 2021. 3. Mary Trump Fraud LitigationMary Trump is suing Donald Trump for defrauding her out of millions of dollars in an inheritance dispute. The suit is pending in New York state court, where the parties are currently battling over former President Trump’s move to dismiss the case.Update: On Sept. 21, 2021, Donald Trump filed a related lawsuit against Mary Trump, the New York Times, and several of its reporters.4. Panama Hotel Fraud and Tax Litigation (CLOSED)Ithaca Capital is suing Trump’s hotel management company for fraud in federal court. Primarily, Ithaca claims that Trump representatives exaggerated the value of a Panama hotel during Ithaca’s negotiations to purchase it. Update: On Sept. 15, 2021, the parties agreed to end the lawsuit.5. Doe v. The Trump Corporation Class ActionA group of anonymous plaintiffs have filed a class action against the Trump family and their business, alleging that the Trumps used their brand to scam investors into paying for worthless business opportunities. The district court denied the Trumps’ bid to force the case into arbitration, and the Trumps are now appealing.6. DC Civil Suit over Misuse of 2017 Inauguration FundsIn a non-criminal suit, the DC Attorney General is suing several Trump-affiliated entities for misusing inauguration funds to enrich Trump’s family business. The suit is currently in discovery before DC’s local court, where the AG’s office is deposing key Trump executives, notably including his children.7. Reps. Karen Bass et al. Incitement Suit for Jan. 6 Capitol AttackTen members of the House of Representatives, represented by the NAACP, are suing Trump, Rudy Giuliani, and two right wing militia groups for conspiring to forcibly prevent Congress from counting the Electoral College votes on Jan. 6. 8. Eric Swalwell Incitement Suit for Jan. 6 RiotsOn Mar. 5, 2021, Representative Eric Swalwell sued Donald Trump, Rudy Giuliani, Donald Trump Jr., and Congressman Mo Brooks in federal court over the Jan. 6 riots. Swalwell alleges that the defendants violated federal civil rights laws–including the Ku Klux Klan Act–when they conspired to interfere with the Electoral College Count on Jan 6. Beyond that, Swalwell also says the defendants should be held liable for negligently violating DC criminal codes on incitement, encouraging the rioters’ violent conduct, and intentionally inflicting emotional distress on members of Congress.9. Capitol Police Suit for Jan. 6 RiotsTwo Capitol Police officers–both on duty during the Jan. 6 insurrection–sued Donald Trump for injuries they sustained while protecting the Capitol. Both allege that the rioters physically attacked them with fists, chemical spray, and other weapons. They allege that the former president, by his incendiary words and conduct, directed the physical attack and emotional distress.10. Second Capitol Police Suit for Jan. 6 RiotsA second group of Capitol Police officers filed suit against Trump, the Proud Boys, the Oath Keepers, and other affiliates involved in allegedly planning and executing the Jan. 6 riots. The seven officers claim that they were physically and emotionally injured by attackers that Trump instigated, and that Trump and his co-defendants conspired to disrupt congressional business in the certification of electoral votes.11. NAACP’s Legal Defense Fund Voting Rights Case for Post-Election ActionsThe LDF is suing Trump, the Trump Campaign, and the RNC for their efforts to overturn the 2020 election in violation of the Voting Rights Act and the Ku Klux Klan Act. While the litigation is still at its early stages, Trump faces damages and a declaratory judgment that he did indeed violate these provisions of the law.12. New York Attorney General’s Civil and Criminal InvestigationsSince March 2019, New York Attorney General Letitia James has been investigating allegations that the Trump Organization altered property values to avoid tax liabilities. The investigation began after Trump’s former attorney Michael Cohen provided congressional testimony that Trump engaged in fraud. In October 2020, James’s office deposed Eric Trump, and in January 2021 a state court judge ruled that Trump’s tax attorneys must turn over thousands of documents. Update: On May 18, 2021, a spokesperson for New York’s Attorney General said, “We have informed the Trump Organization that our investigation into the organization is no longer purely civil in nature. We are now actively investigating the Trump Organizations in a criminal capacity, along with the Manhattan DA.”13. Scotland Unexplained Wealth OrdersIn February 2021, the Scottish Parliament voted to reject an investigation into unexplained cash transactions executed by the Trump Organization’s Scottish golf courses. A non-profit group is now challenging that decision in Scottish court.14. Trump Tower Assault SuitA group of six protesters are suing Trump over allegations that Trump’s security guards assaulted them outside Trump Tower in 2015. The case is pending in New York state court. On Oct. 18, 2021, former President Trump sat for a four-hour deposition to answer questions about the incident.15. Criminal Investigations into Trump’s FinancesDuring his presidency, the Manhattan District Attorney investigated Trump’s finances. Manhattan DA Cyrus Vance recently gained access to Trump’s tax information in the course of a criminal investigation into potential tax crimes, insurance fraud, and other financial crimes under state law. Criminal charges have not been filed.Update-1: New reporting on Mar. 1 revealed that Vance’s investigation has focused on Trump Organization chief financial officer, Allen Weisselberg, whose potential cooperation with prosecutors could be a significant breakthrough in the investigation. On Mar. 31, the New York Times reported that prosecutors have subpoenaed Mr. Weisselberg’s personal bank records, and on Apr. 8, investigators took possession of financial records from Weisselberg’s daughter-in-law.Update-2: New reporting on Mar. 8 revealed that Vance’s probe has expanded to include an investigation of a loan the Trump Organization received to build its Chicago tower, and whether the forgiveness of that loan was reported as income.Update-3: Vance has convened a special grand jury that is “expected to decide whether to indict former president Donald Trump, other executives at his company or the business itself should prosecutors present the panel with criminal charges,” the Washington Post reported on May 25, 2021. “The move indicates that District Attorney Cyrus R. Vance Jr.’s investigation of the former president and his business has reached an advanced stage …. It suggests, too, that Vance believes he has found evidence of a crime — if not by Trump then by someone potentially close to him or by his company.”Update-4: On Jun. 4, ABC News and the New York Times report that Trump Organization senior vice president and controller, Jeff McConney is among a number of witnesses to have already appeared before the special grand jury. He is reportedly the first employee of the company called to testify. Update-5: The DA charged the Trump Organization and its chief financial officer Weisselberg on Thursday, July 1 for an alleged 15-year-long tax fraud scheme. The indictment includes reference to an “unindicted coconspirator,” who is Jeff McConney, the Trump Organization’s controller, a person familiar with the investigation told CNN.16. DC AG Incitement Criminal InvestigationThe DC Attorney General, Karl Racine, has announced a criminal investigation into Trump’s alleged role in provoking the Jan. 6th riots. No charges have been filed, though Racine’s office is reportedly looking into a local DC code that makes it a misdemeanor to incite violence.17. Fulton County, Georgia Criminal Election Influence Investigation The Fulton County DA’s Office has opened a criminal investigation into attempted election interference by Trump. The DA’s Office has requested that all official and unofficial emails concerning the election be preserved and has reportedly also planned to look into a call between Senator Lindsey Graham (R-SC) and Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger as part of the investigation as well as Rudy Giuliani’s potential false statements to Georgia officials.Update-1: Officials are reportedly expected to seek a grand jury subpoena the week of March 1, 2021 for documents and witnesses connected to the investigation.Update-2: On Mar. 11, a recording of a call between then-President Trump and the chief investigator of the Georgia Secretary of State’s office, Frances Watson, was released by the Wall Street Journal. On the call, Trump urged Watson to look for fraud in mail-in ballots. The Fulton County DA’s Office has said that they will request a copy of the phone call. Update-3: As of Mar. 28, there are reportedly two grand juries considering subpoenas for documents relevant to the investigation.18. Westchester, New York Criminal Investigation of Trump Organization Gulf CourseThe Westchester District Attorney’s Office reportedly launched an investigation which probes, at least in part, whether the Trump Organization misled local officials on the property values of its golf course in order to reduce its taxes.
1. E. Jean Carroll Defamation and Federal Tort Claims Act Litigation
Carroll is suing Trump for defamation after he publicly accused her of fabricating a rape allegation against him. The parties are currently involved in an appeal before the Second Circuit, where Trump (and so far, the Justice Department as well) is arguing that he had official immunity from Carroll’s defamation claim under the Federal Tort Claims Act (FTCA).
2. Summer Zervos Defamation Suit
Summer Zervos, a former contestant on the Apprentice, has filed a civil suit against former President Trump for defamation after he claimed her allegations of his inappropriate sexual conduct were lies designed to help the Clinton campaign and improve her fame. The case is currently at the New York Court of Appeals, the highest New York state court.
Update: On Oct. 4, 2021, the trial court ruled that Trump could be deposed before Dec. 23, 2021.
3. Mary Trump Fraud Litigation
Mary Trump is suing Donald Trump for defrauding her out of millions of dollars in an inheritance dispute. The suit is pending in New York state court, where the parties are currently battling over former President Trump’s move to dismiss the case.
Update: On Sept. 21, 2021, Donald Trump filed a related lawsuit against Mary Trump, the New York Times, and several of its reporters.
4. Panama Hotel Fraud and Tax Litigation (CLOSED)
Ithaca Capital is suing Trump’s hotel management company for fraud in federal court. Primarily, Ithaca claims that Trump representatives exaggerated the value of a Panama hotel during Ithaca’s negotiations to purchase it.
Update: On Sept. 15, 2021, the parties agreed to end the lawsuit.
5. Doe v. The Trump Corporation Class Action
A group of anonymous plaintiffs have filed a class action against the Trump family and their business, alleging that the Trumps used their brand to scam investors into paying for worthless business opportunities. The district court denied the Trumps’ bid to force the case into arbitration, and the Trumps are now appealing.
6. DC Civil Suit over Misuse of 2017 Inauguration Funds
In a non-criminal suit, the DC Attorney General is suing several Trump-affiliated entities for misusing inauguration funds to enrich Trump’s family business. The suit is currently in discovery before DC’s local court, where the AG’s office is deposing key Trump executives, notably including his children.
7. Reps. Karen Bass et al. Incitement Suit for Jan. 6 Capitol Attack
Ten members of the House of Representatives, represented by the NAACP, are suing Trump, Rudy Giuliani, and two right wing militia groups for conspiring to forcibly prevent Congress from counting the Electoral College votes on Jan. 6.
8. Eric Swalwell Incitement Suit for Jan. 6 Riots
On Mar. 5, 2021, Representative Eric Swalwell sued Donald Trump, Rudy Giuliani, Donald Trump Jr., and Congressman Mo Brooks in federal court over the Jan. 6 riots. Swalwell alleges that the defendants violated federal civil rights laws–including the Ku Klux Klan Act–when they conspired to interfere with the Electoral College Count on Jan 6. Beyond that, Swalwell also says the defendants should be held liable for negligently violating DC criminal codes on incitement, encouraging the rioters’ violent conduct, and intentionally inflicting emotional distress on members of Congress.
9. Capitol Police Suit for Jan. 6 Riots
Two Capitol Police officers–both on duty during the Jan. 6 insurrection–sued Donald Trump for injuries they sustained while protecting the Capitol. Both allege that the rioters physically attacked them with fists, chemical spray, and other weapons. They allege that the former president, by his incendiary words and conduct, directed the physical attack and emotional distress.
10. Second Capitol Police Suit for Jan. 6 Riots
A second group of Capitol Police officers filed suit against Trump, the Proud Boys, the Oath Keepers, and other affiliates involved in allegedly planning and executing the Jan. 6 riots. The seven officers claim that they were physically and emotionally injured by attackers that Trump instigated, and that Trump and his co-defendants conspired to disrupt congressional business in the certification of electoral votes.
11. NAACP’s Legal Defense Fund Voting Rights Case for Post-Election Actions
The LDF is suing Trump, the Trump Campaign, and the RNC for their efforts to overturn the 2020 election in violation of the Voting Rights Act and the Ku Klux Klan Act. While the litigation is still at its early stages, Trump faces damages and a declaratory judgment that he did indeed violate these provisions of the law.
12. New York Attorney General’s Civil and Criminal Investigations
Since March 2019, New York Attorney General Letitia James has been investigating allegations that the Trump Organization altered property values to avoid tax liabilities. The investigation began after Trump’s former attorney Michael Cohen provided congressional testimony that Trump engaged in fraud. In October 2020, James’s office deposed Eric Trump, and in January 2021 a state court judge ruled that Trump’s tax attorneys must turn over thousands of documents.
Update: On May 18, 2021, a spokesperson for New York’s Attorney General said, “We have informed the Trump Organization that our investigation into the organization is no longer purely civil in nature. We are now actively investigating the Trump Organizations in a criminal capacity, along with the Manhattan DA.”
13. Scotland Unexplained Wealth Orders
In February 2021, the Scottish Parliament voted to reject an investigation into unexplained cash transactions executed by the Trump Organization’s Scottish golf courses. A non-profit group is now challenging that decision in Scottish court.
14. Trump Tower Assault Suit
A group of six protesters are suing Trump over allegations that Trump’s security guards assaulted them outside Trump Tower in 2015. The case is pending in New York state court. On Oct. 18, 2021, former President Trump sat for a four-hour deposition to answer questions about the incident.
15. Criminal Investigations into Trump’s Finances
During his presidency, the Manhattan District Attorney investigated Trump’s finances. Manhattan DA Cyrus Vance recently gained access to Trump’s tax information in the course of a criminal investigation into potential tax crimes, insurance fraud, and other financial crimes under state law. Criminal charges have not been filed.
Update-1: New reporting on Mar. 1 revealed that Vance’s investigation has focused on Trump Organization chief financial officer, Allen Weisselberg, whose potential cooperation with prosecutors could be a significant breakthrough in the investigation. On Mar. 31, the New York Times reported that prosecutors have subpoenaed Mr. Weisselberg’s personal bank records, and on Apr. 8, investigators took possession of financial records from Weisselberg’s daughter-in-law.
Update-2: New reporting on Mar. 8 revealed that Vance’s probe has expanded to include an investigation of a loan the Trump Organization received to build its Chicago tower, and whether the forgiveness of that loan was reported as income.
Update-3: Vance has convened a special grand jury that is “expected to decide whether to indict former president Donald Trump, other executives at his company or the business itself should prosecutors present the panel with criminal charges,” the Washington Post reported on May 25, 2021. “The move indicates that District Attorney Cyrus R. Vance Jr.’s investigation of the former president and his business has reached an advanced stage …. It suggests, too, that Vance believes he has found evidence of a crime — if not by Trump then by someone potentially close to him or by his company.”
Update-4: On Jun. 4, ABC News and the New York Times report that Trump Organization senior vice president and controller, Jeff McConney is among a number of witnesses to have already appeared before the special grand jury. He is reportedly the first employee of the company called to testify.
Update-5: The DA charged the Trump Organization and its chief financial officer Weisselberg on Thursday, July 1 for an alleged 15-year-long tax fraud scheme. The indictment includes reference to an “unindicted coconspirator,” who is Jeff McConney, the Trump Organization’s controller, a person familiar with the investigation told CNN.
16. DC AG Incitement Criminal Investigation
The DC Attorney General, Karl Racine, has announced a criminal investigation into Trump’s alleged role in provoking the Jan. 6th riots. No charges have been filed, though Racine’s office is reportedly looking into a local DC code that makes it a misdemeanor to incite violence.
17. Fulton County, Georgia Criminal Election Influence Investigation
The Fulton County DA’s Office has opened a criminal investigation into attempted election interference by Trump. The DA’s Office has requested that all official and unofficial emails concerning the election be preserved and has reportedly also planned to look into a call between Senator Lindsey Graham (R-SC) and Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger as part of the investigation as well as Rudy Giuliani’s potential false statements to Georgia officials.
Update-1: Officials are reportedly expected to seek a grand jury subpoena the week of March 1, 2021 for documents and witnesses connected to the investigation.
Update-2: On Mar. 11, a recording of a call between then-President Trump and the chief investigator of the Georgia Secretary of State’s office, Frances Watson, was released by the Wall Street Journal. On the call, Trump urged Watson to look for fraud in mail-in ballots. The Fulton County DA’s Office has said that they will request a copy of the phone call.
Update-3: As of Mar. 28, there are reportedly two grand juries considering subpoenas for documents relevant to the investigation.
18. Westchester, New York Criminal Investigation of Trump Organization Gulf Course
The Westchester District Attorney’s Office reportedly launched an investigation which probes, at least in part, whether the Trump Organization misled local officials on the property values of its golf course in order to reduce its taxes.
― John Stockton buying a used car from (Karl Malone), Thursday, 21 October 2021 20:19 (two years ago) link
All those silly suits will be summarily dropped once the litigants sign up for a TRUTH account and see how great it is
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 21 October 2021 21:05 (two years ago) link
Seems like this thread needs to stay open to continue chronicling the Trump Follies, share suddenly remembered oddities of his presidency, and deal with the PTSDs triggered by both.
Like how today I was reminded of the annexation attempt on Greenland...or was it Iceland?
― Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 21 October 2021 21:15 (two years ago) link
…it AINT over til he’s oooooohhh verrrrrr…
so many tears i cry, so many FUCK. YOUUUUUS! i sigh, etc
― antebellum tension fatigue (Hunt3r), Saturday, 23 October 2021 01:01 (two years ago) link
There's a very good Bloomberg column about the latest Trump Thing. In case it's paywalled, I'll paste it below.
Trump SPACDonald Trump is a very famous person who likes to talk and who has a lot of enthusiastic fans. If he started a television channel that consisted of him talking about whatever for two hours every afternoon, surrounded by 22 hours of other people talking about how great he is, it would probably get a lot of viewers and could carry a lot of ads for pillows or whatever. But this would probably involve a certain amount of work and competence — you’d have to hire people to point the cameras at him and negotiate cable carriage and ad deals — and television is expensive; there would be some real financial risk to it.Or he could start a social media company for his fans, where he could send out his thoughts without being banned. I am not going to pretend to make a business case for that one — there is a long history of hilarious failure in the “social media for Trump” category — but maybe you can. It is not a sure thing, in any case. Maybe it would work, maybe it wouldn’t. When Twitter Inc. went public it had never been profitable and it was, you know, a real social network that people used. Maybe Twitter But Trump would immediately be profitable but boy I have some doubts.On the other hand if Donald Trump launched a company that was like “I am going to start a social media platform for Trump fans,” could he get people to buy the stock? I think that two fundamental lessons of the last few years are:You can get people to buy any stock; and Donald Trump can get people to buy anything.So if Donald Trump announced “hey I’m gonna do a social media company, buy some stock,” people would buy some stock. And then he’d get a lot of money. And then if the social media platform did not end up being profitable — as I cannot imagine it would be! — then he would, uh, still have that money? And if the social media platform did not end up being launched — if Trump and his crack team of technologists just couldn’t actually build a well-functioning online social network — then he would, uh, still have that money? And if there was no crack team of technologists at all, if nobody even tried to build the social media platform — then you see where I am going with this right?The point is that if you launch a company with the goal of making it profitable, you have to, like, have a workable business plan and execute on it and deal with a million different operational complexities. If you launch a company with the goal of selling a lot of stock, you have to get people to trust you and give you their money. There is some overlap between those things! But they are different things!Now, there are some difficulties with doing an initial public offering that is like “we’re gonna build a beautiful social network, trust me.” But a third important lesson of the last few years is: SPACs!If you go public by merging your private company with a special purpose acquisition company, then you can just make up whatever you want and no one will check. No, I’m kidding, that is very much not the law! But it is maybe a little bit the law? In particular, there is a view that pre-revenue private companies can go public via SPAC merger and market themselves to investors using wildly optimistic projections of their future revenue, and that if those projections do not come true they won’t get in trouble. Again, this is not quite true — talk to your lawyer before trying this! — but there is an element of truth to it. If you are in the business of raising money to fund a social media company that you haven’t built yet and perhaps never will, the SPAC format has a real appeal.Anyway, anyway, anyway, anyway, anyway, anyway:>>PALM BEACH, FL -- October 20, 2021 -- Trump Media & Technology Group and Digital World Acquisition Corp. (NASDAQ: DWAC) have entered into a definitive merger agreement, providing for a business combination that will result in Trump Media & Technology Group becoming a publicly listed company, subject to regulatory and stockholder approval. The transaction values Trump Media & Technology Group at an initial enterprise value of $875 Million, with a potential additional earnout of $825 Million in additional shares (at the valuation they are granted) for a cumulative valuation of up to $1.7 Billion depending on the performance of the stock price post-business combination. Trump Media & Technology Group’s growth plans initially will be funded by DWAC’s cash in trust of $293 Million (assuming no redemptions).>>Trump Media & Technology Group's mission is to create a rival to the liberal media consortium and fight back against the "Big Tech” companies of Silicon Valley, which have used their unilateral power to silence opposing voices in America.>>Trump Media & Technology Group (“TMTG”) will soon be launching a social network, named "TRUTH Social." TRUTH Social is now available for Pre-Order in the Apple App store. TRUTH Social plans to begin its Beta Launch for invited guests in November 2021. A nationwide rollout is expected in the first quarter of 2022. Those who are interested in joining TRUTH Social may now visit www.truthsocial.com to sign up for the invite list.>>President Donald J. Trump, the Chairman of TMTG, stated, “I created TRUTH Social and TMTG to stand up to the tyranny of Big Tech. We live in a world where the Taliban has a huge presence on Twitter, yet your favorite American President has been silenced. This is unacceptable. I am excited to send out my first TRUTH on TRUTH Social very soon. TMTG was founded with a mission to give a voice to all. I'm excited to soon begin sharing my thoughts on TRUTH Social and to fight back against Big Tech. Everyone asks me why doesn’t someone stand up to Big Tech? Well, we will be soon!”Well. That's a real press release filed with the real Securities and Exchange Commission by Digital World Acquisition Corp., which is a real SPAC insofar as a SPAC can be real. It has $293 million in its trust. Traditionally SPAC deals are often announced with PIPEs, private investments in public equity, in which institutional or strategic investors commit hundreds of millions of dollars of their own money alongside the SPAC investment. Here, there is no PIPE; no institutional investors seem to be involved. Trump Very Tech Company Group is raising its money only from public investors in the SPAC.Ordinarily that would be risky: The SPAC investors have withdrawal rights — they can take back their $10 per share in cash, plus a little interest, instead of leaving it in the pot for the merger — so the company might not get any money. Here, it is not risky. The reason it is not risky is that people who like Trump will buy the stock. (Also: People who think “people who like Trump will buy the stock” will buy the stock; the Keynesian beauty contest applies here too.) Yesterday, before this announcement, DWAC’s stock closed at $9.96, a bit below the approximately $10.20 per share that it has in its trust, sort of a standard price for a SPAC with no deal yet. At 11 a.m. today it was trading at about $19.38, implying a valuation for Trump Thing of something like $1.7 billion. 2 If you think Trump Thing is worth $19.38 per share, you are not going to take your $10 back; you’re going to keep the stock and let Trump have your $10. 3 He will definitely get all $293 million.Why would you think Trump Thing, a company with no product and no revenue, is worth $1.7 billion? Are you looking at the wildly optimistic projections of future revenue in the investor presentation? No you certainly are not! The initial SEC filing doesn’t include an investor presentation, but there is a “Company Overview” deck on Trump Thing’s website, and, fun fact, there is not a single dollar sign in the whole deck. There is no financial analysis, no sources and uses of funds for the deal, no capital structure, and certainly no projections of future revenue. It does have a mock-up of the app with Donald Trump tweeting (TRUTHing?) “lorem ipsum” text:Here’s a slide with Donald Trump presenting a trophy to a sumo wrestler:Here’s a slide about “Tech Monopoly Censorship Threatens Free Speech”:That sort of thing. You are not buying this stock because you have faith in its optimistic cash-flow forecasts; it has not bothered with cash-flow forecasts. You are buying this stock because you like Donald Trump and think that Tech Monopoly Censorship Threatens Free Speech. Cash flows, valuation, etc., are all irrelevant. It is just vibes.It does feel a little bit like all of recent financial history has been leading up to this moment? Like, Donald Trump, sure; obviously part of the Donald Trump thing is “I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody, and I wouldn't lose any voters.” Similarly, he can launch a company with no product, business plan or capital structure and the stock will double. But also the SPAC boom has made it viable for pre-product, pre-revenue companies to go public at multibillion-dollar valuations if they can get enough hype. But also meme stocks have prepared everyone for the notion that the value of a stock is based on the fervor of its community of online fans, not its projected cash flows. But also the cryptocurrency boom seeded that notion, and paired it with libertarianism and resistance to tech-company dominance. But also the boom in non-fungible tokens further proved the idea that membership in an online community has a value that can be captured and financialized and traded and turned into a bubble.Or I talk sometimes about the “Elon Markets Hypothesis,” the notion that stocks (or cryptocurrencies) go up because Elon Musk tweets about them. Musk’s online cult of personality is enough to create financial value. I joke sometimes that he should use that to extract some of that value for himself, but honestly Musk is super-rich and has a lot of weird hobbies and just isn’t that interested in pumping Dogecoin to make a little day-trading profit. 4 But if anyone else has their own large devoted online cult, they can use it to pump a stock and extract some value for themselves. Donald Trump has a Musk-level online cult and is clearly not above extracting value for himself. What is the long-term value of Trump Thing? Well I suppose you could make an optimistic case that it will eventually displace Twitter and Facebook and CNN and … Netflix? and … Amazon? and … Stripe? ... and become a dominant multi-trillion-dollar tech giant. Again the investor presentation doesn’t make that case but it does have a slide with Stripe’s logo:And then you’d feel pretty good about getting in at $1.7 billion. Or you could make a more normal case that Donald Trump is a big media personality and you can sell a certain number of pillow ads against him and this will end up being a viable, profitable business and $1.7 billion is roughly the right price for it. But I think that a more realistic valuation method here is not to worry about cash flows at all — as Trump SPAC clearly does not — and treat the stock simply as a token of public interest in Donald Trump. My guess is that the price of Trump SPAC stock will not, for instance, be much affected by its earnings announcements, unless Trump himself does the earnings calls in which case it will go up no matter what he says. My guess is that the stock will not be particularly correlated with the stocks of other media or technology companies. My guess is that the stock will go up when Trump is on television, or if he announces that he’s running for president again. My guess is that if something bad happens to Trump — if he’s sued or arrested or banned by a new tech company or some new scandal comes out — then that will also make the stock go up, to own the libs or whatever. My guess is that each day that goes by without Trump news, the stock will go down a bit. My guess is that the stock is essentially a bet on Trump’s personal newsiness, on Trump-news volatility. 5To be clear I have absolutely no corporate finance basis for these guesses; I don’t think that, like, getting sued for attacking protesters will be good for Trump Thing’s ad revenue or whatever. I don’t have some story of “public interest in Trump increases the expected value of Trump Thing's cash flows so the stock will go up.” I just think that the stock price will have nothing to do with the ad revenue; it will be based entirely on how much attention Trump’s fans are paying to Trump.At the beginning of February, when GameStop Corp.’s stock price became unmoored from anyone's expectations about future cash flows, I wrote a paragraph that people still tweet at me from time to time:>>But I tell you what, if we are still here in a month I will absolutely freak out. Stock prices can get totally disconnected from fundamental value for a while, it’s fine, we all have a good laugh. But if they stay that way forever, if everyone decides that cash flows are irrelevant and that the important factor in any stock is how much fun it is to trade, then … what are we all doing here? When people tweet this at me it is because GameStop’s price is still pretty much where it was in February (though arguably a bit more justified by actual changes to the business!), and they say “so are you freaked out yet?” And, I don’t know, yes? Doesn’t it feel like there has been a paradigm shift, a regime change? Doesn’t it feel like for the last 80 or so years there has been a dominant view of investing, a first-page-of-the-textbook given, that investments are worth the present value of their expected future cash flows? Doesn’t it feel like that world has ended and a new one has begun? I should go buy some Dogecoin.Oh, also. One other thing that I like to say around here is that “everything is securities fraud”: Every bad thing that a public company, or a public-company executive, does can be recast as securities fraud and lead to securities lawsuits. There will be like 200 securities-fraud lawsuits against Donald Trump by Christmas, enjoy!
Or he could start a social media company for his fans, where he could send out his thoughts without being banned. I am not going to pretend to make a business case for that one — there is a long history of hilarious failure in the “social media for Trump” category — but maybe you can. It is not a sure thing, in any case. Maybe it would work, maybe it wouldn’t. When Twitter Inc. went public it had never been profitable and it was, you know, a real social network that people used. Maybe Twitter But Trump would immediately be profitable but boy I have some doubts.
On the other hand if Donald Trump launched a company that was like “I am going to start a social media platform for Trump fans,” could he get people to buy the stock? I think that two fundamental lessons of the last few years are:
You can get people to buy any stock; and Donald Trump can get people to buy anything.
So if Donald Trump announced “hey I’m gonna do a social media company, buy some stock,” people would buy some stock. And then he’d get a lot of money. And then if the social media platform did not end up being profitable — as I cannot imagine it would be! — then he would, uh, still have that money? And if the social media platform did not end up being launched — if Trump and his crack team of technologists just couldn’t actually build a well-functioning online social network — then he would, uh, still have that money? And if there was no crack team of technologists at all, if nobody even tried to build the social media platform — then you see where I am going with this right?
The point is that if you launch a company with the goal of making it profitable, you have to, like, have a workable business plan and execute on it and deal with a million different operational complexities. If you launch a company with the goal of selling a lot of stock, you have to get people to trust you and give you their money. There is some overlap between those things! But they are different things!
Now, there are some difficulties with doing an initial public offering that is like “we’re gonna build a beautiful social network, trust me.” But a third important lesson of the last few years is: SPACs!
If you go public by merging your private company with a special purpose acquisition company, then you can just make up whatever you want and no one will check. No, I’m kidding, that is very much not the law! But it is maybe a little bit the law? In particular, there is a view that pre-revenue private companies can go public via SPAC merger and market themselves to investors using wildly optimistic projections of their future revenue, and that if those projections do not come true they won’t get in trouble. Again, this is not quite true — talk to your lawyer before trying this! — but there is an element of truth to it. If you are in the business of raising money to fund a social media company that you haven’t built yet and perhaps never will, the SPAC format has a real appeal.
Anyway, anyway, anyway, anyway, anyway, anyway:
>>PALM BEACH, FL -- October 20, 2021 -- Trump Media & Technology Group and Digital World Acquisition Corp. (NASDAQ: DWAC) have entered into a definitive merger agreement, providing for a business combination that will result in Trump Media & Technology Group becoming a publicly listed company, subject to regulatory and stockholder approval. The transaction values Trump Media & Technology Group at an initial enterprise value of $875 Million, with a potential additional earnout of $825 Million in additional shares (at the valuation they are granted) for a cumulative valuation of up to $1.7 Billion depending on the performance of the stock price post-business combination. Trump Media & Technology Group’s growth plans initially will be funded by DWAC’s cash in trust of $293 Million (assuming no redemptions).
>>Trump Media & Technology Group's mission is to create a rival to the liberal media consortium and fight back against the "Big Tech” companies of Silicon Valley, which have used their unilateral power to silence opposing voices in America.
>>Trump Media & Technology Group (“TMTG”) will soon be launching a social network, named "TRUTH Social." TRUTH Social is now available for Pre-Order in the Apple App store. TRUTH Social plans to begin its Beta Launch for invited guests in November 2021. A nationwide rollout is expected in the first quarter of 2022. Those who are interested in joining TRUTH Social may now visit www.truthsocial.com to sign up for the invite list.
>>President Donald J. Trump, the Chairman of TMTG, stated, “I created TRUTH Social and TMTG to stand up to the tyranny of Big Tech. We live in a world where the Taliban has a huge presence on Twitter, yet your favorite American President has been silenced. This is unacceptable. I am excited to send out my first TRUTH on TRUTH Social very soon. TMTG was founded with a mission to give a voice to all. I'm excited to soon begin sharing my thoughts on TRUTH Social and to fight back against Big Tech. Everyone asks me why doesn’t someone stand up to Big Tech? Well, we will be soon!”
Well. That's a real press release filed with the real Securities and Exchange Commission by Digital World Acquisition Corp., which is a real SPAC insofar as a SPAC can be real. It has $293 million in its trust. Traditionally SPAC deals are often announced with PIPEs, private investments in public equity, in which institutional or strategic investors commit hundreds of millions of dollars of their own money alongside the SPAC investment. Here, there is no PIPE; no institutional investors seem to be involved. Trump Very Tech Company Group is raising its money only from public investors in the SPAC.
Ordinarily that would be risky: The SPAC investors have withdrawal rights — they can take back their $10 per share in cash, plus a little interest, instead of leaving it in the pot for the merger — so the company might not get any money. Here, it is not risky. The reason it is not risky is that people who like Trump will buy the stock. (Also: People who think “people who like Trump will buy the stock” will buy the stock; the Keynesian beauty contest applies here too.) Yesterday, before this announcement, DWAC’s stock closed at $9.96, a bit below the approximately $10.20 per share that it has in its trust, sort of a standard price for a SPAC with no deal yet. At 11 a.m. today it was trading at about $19.38, implying a valuation for Trump Thing of something like $1.7 billion. 2 If you think Trump Thing is worth $19.38 per share, you are not going to take your $10 back; you’re going to keep the stock and let Trump have your $10. 3 He will definitely get all $293 million.
Why would you think Trump Thing, a company with no product and no revenue, is worth $1.7 billion? Are you looking at the wildly optimistic projections of future revenue in the investor presentation? No you certainly are not! The initial SEC filing doesn’t include an investor presentation, but there is a “Company Overview” deck on Trump Thing’s website, and, fun fact, there is not a single dollar sign in the whole deck. There is no financial analysis, no sources and uses of funds for the deal, no capital structure, and certainly no projections of future revenue. It does have a mock-up of the app with Donald Trump tweeting (TRUTHing?) “lorem ipsum” text:
Here’s a slide with Donald Trump presenting a trophy to a sumo wrestler:
Here’s a slide about “Tech Monopoly Censorship Threatens Free Speech”:
That sort of thing. You are not buying this stock because you have faith in its optimistic cash-flow forecasts; it has not bothered with cash-flow forecasts. You are buying this stock because you like Donald Trump and think that Tech Monopoly Censorship Threatens Free Speech. Cash flows, valuation, etc., are all irrelevant. It is just vibes.
It does feel a little bit like all of recent financial history has been leading up to this moment? Like, Donald Trump, sure; obviously part of the Donald Trump thing is “I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody, and I wouldn't lose any voters.” Similarly, he can launch a company with no product, business plan or capital structure and the stock will double.
But also the SPAC boom has made it viable for pre-product, pre-revenue companies to go public at multibillion-dollar valuations if they can get enough hype. But also meme stocks have prepared everyone for the notion that the value of a stock is based on the fervor of its community of online fans, not its projected cash flows. But also the cryptocurrency boom seeded that notion, and paired it with libertarianism and resistance to tech-company dominance. But also the boom in non-fungible tokens further proved the idea that membership in an online community has a value that can be captured and financialized and traded and turned into a bubble.
Or I talk sometimes about the “Elon Markets Hypothesis,” the notion that stocks (or cryptocurrencies) go up because Elon Musk tweets about them. Musk’s online cult of personality is enough to create financial value. I joke sometimes that he should use that to extract some of that value for himself, but honestly Musk is super-rich and has a lot of weird hobbies and just isn’t that interested in pumping Dogecoin to make a little day-trading profit. 4 But if anyone else has their own large devoted online cult, they can use it to pump a stock and extract some value for themselves. Donald Trump has a Musk-level online cult and is clearly not above extracting value for himself.
What is the long-term value of Trump Thing? Well I suppose you could make an optimistic case that it will eventually displace Twitter and Facebook and CNN and … Netflix? and … Amazon? and … Stripe? ... and become a dominant multi-trillion-dollar tech giant. Again the investor presentation doesn’t make that case but it does have a slide with Stripe’s logo:
And then you’d feel pretty good about getting in at $1.7 billion. Or you could make a more normal case that Donald Trump is a big media personality and you can sell a certain number of pillow ads against him and this will end up being a viable, profitable business and $1.7 billion is roughly the right price for it.
But I think that a more realistic valuation method here is not to worry about cash flows at all — as Trump SPAC clearly does not — and treat the stock simply as a token of public interest in Donald Trump. My guess is that the price of Trump SPAC stock will not, for instance, be much affected by its earnings announcements, unless Trump himself does the earnings calls in which case it will go up no matter what he says. My guess is that the stock will not be particularly correlated with the stocks of other media or technology companies. My guess is that the stock will go up when Trump is on television, or if he announces that he’s running for president again. My guess is that if something bad happens to Trump — if he’s sued or arrested or banned by a new tech company or some new scandal comes out — then that will also make the stock go up, to own the libs or whatever. My guess is that each day that goes by without Trump news, the stock will go down a bit. My guess is that the stock is essentially a bet on Trump’s personal newsiness, on Trump-news volatility. 5
To be clear I have absolutely no corporate finance basis for these guesses; I don’t think that, like, getting sued for attacking protesters will be good for Trump Thing’s ad revenue or whatever. I don’t have some story of “public interest in Trump increases the expected value of Trump Thing's cash flows so the stock will go up.” I just think that the stock price will have nothing to do with the ad revenue; it will be based entirely on how much attention Trump’s fans are paying to Trump.
At the beginning of February, when GameStop Corp.’s stock price became unmoored from anyone's expectations about future cash flows, I wrote a paragraph that people still tweet at me from time to time:
>>But I tell you what, if we are still here in a month I will absolutely freak out. Stock prices can get totally disconnected from fundamental value for a while, it’s fine, we all have a good laugh. But if they stay that way forever, if everyone decides that cash flows are irrelevant and that the important factor in any stock is how much fun it is to trade, then … what are we all doing here?
When people tweet this at me it is because GameStop’s price is still pretty much where it was in February (though arguably a bit more justified by actual changes to the business!), and they say “so are you freaked out yet?” And, I don’t know, yes? Doesn’t it feel like there has been a paradigm shift, a regime change? Doesn’t it feel like for the last 80 or so years there has been a dominant view of investing, a first-page-of-the-textbook given, that investments are worth the present value of their expected future cash flows? Doesn’t it feel like that world has ended and a new one has begun? I should go buy some Dogecoin.
Oh, also. One other thing that I like to say around here is that “everything is securities fraud”: Every bad thing that a public company, or a public-company executive, does can be recast as securities fraud and lead to securities lawsuits. There will be like 200 securities-fraud lawsuits against Donald Trump by Christmas, enjoy!
― but also fuck you (unperson), Saturday, 23 October 2021 13:37 (two years ago) link
Interesting article. I have a chapter on this topic in my upcoming book "Capitalism's Entropic Asymptote," describing the period before we are eating each other's faces, and also before Cthulu lumbers forth from the sea to assume his throne on the rubble of Trump Tower.
― antebellum tension fatigue (Hunt3r), Saturday, 23 October 2021 16:47 (two years ago) link
Is there a chapter on the face-eating Cthulhu faze? Because I would like to buy shares in your book.
― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 23 October 2021 17:10 (two years ago) link
You are not buying this stock because you have faith in its optimistic cash-flow forecasts; it has not bothered with cash-flow forecasts. You are buying this stock because you like Donald Trump and think that Tech Monopoly Censorship Threatens Free Speech. Cash flows, valuation, etc., are all irrelevant. It is just vibes.It does feel a little bit like all of recent financial history has been leading up to this moment? Like, Donald Trump, sure; obviously part of the Donald Trump thing is “I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody, and I wouldn't lose any voters.” Similarly, he can launch a company with no product, business plan or capital structure and the stock will double.But also the SPAC boom has made it viable for pre-product, pre-revenue companies to go public at multibillion-dollar valuations if they can get enough hype. But also meme stocks have prepared everyone for the notion that the value of a stock is based on the fervor of its community of online fans, not its projected cash flows. But also the cryptocurrency boom seeded that notion, and paired it with libertarianism and resistance to tech-company dominance. But also the boom in non-fungible tokens further proved the idea that membership in an online community has a value that can be captured and financialized and traded and turned into a bubble....Doesn’t it feel like there has been a paradigm shift, a regime change? Doesn’t it feel like for the last 80 or so years there has been a dominant view of investing, a first-page-of-the-textbook given, that investments are worth the present value of their expected future cash flows? Doesn’t it feel like that world has ended and a new one has begun? I should go buy some Dogecoin.
...Doesn’t it feel like there has been a paradigm shift, a regime change? Doesn’t it feel like for the last 80 or so years there has been a dominant view of investing, a first-page-of-the-textbook given, that investments are worth the present value of their expected future cash flows? Doesn’t it feel like that world has ended and a new one has begun? I should go buy some Dogecoin.
perhaps i'm alone in this, but for the last several years i've had the notion that people are starting to act as if there really were no future, or at least if it the world we all grew up in is no longer the basis for the future. the 2016 election pointed toward that, as well as the rise of crypto, and it seems to be escalating.
again, maybe that's just me. and maybe i see it because that kind of thinking has rubbed off on me a bit. i see no real future for myself, not any kind of traditional one at least. i already feel my body ailing, i already see my friends and family getting sick and dying, more and more. i want to live my life now, while i can, rather than following the traditional consensus of "defer most of the joy of your life to the future, when you are retired". after the events of the last few years, to me that sounds a lot like "keep earning money for other people. when you are so tired and burned out and old that you no are no longer able to make money for other people, you can retire and travel a bit". and that does seem like a fucking joke, where i am the lifelong butt of the joke.
i guess that has little to do with trump, or anything else. i just wanted to register the thought, the feeling in the air, that the zeitgeist seems to be shifting toward "no future"
― Jeff Hornacek walks into a bar with (Karl Malone), Saturday, 23 October 2021 17:15 (two years ago) link
If by 'future' you mean a recognizable future which progresses logically from the perpetuation of systems that have underpinned the breadth of our lives thus far (and particularly systems which require some degree of constituent agreement about how they function in order to perpetuate as they have), then no. There probably is no future. It's just a slow, intentional, nihilistically hilaaaaaarious erosion of load-bearing walls with no thought given to what's gonna keep the ceiling from collapsing on us when we're done.
― (a picture of a defecating pig) (Old Lunch), Saturday, 23 October 2021 17:32 (two years ago) link
oh no! they may have totally inadvertently used some code that wasn't theirs without asking and now they have 30 days to stop that:https://www.theverge.com/2021/10/22/22740354/trump-truth-social-network-spac-mastodon-license-software-freedom-conservancy
― StanM, Saturday, 23 October 2021 17:35 (two years ago) link
It's just a slow, intentional, nihilistically hilaaaaaarious erosion of load-bearing walls with no thought given to what's gonna keep the ceiling from collapsing on us when we're done.
wait, maybe this is the mypillow guy's angle? when you don't have anyone or anything else you can count on, nothing to protect you, nothing to sleep on - a pillow is handy
― typo hell #14: neanderthal started writing it not know how it (Karl Malone), Saturday, 23 October 2021 17:39 (two years ago) link
it's like the towel in Hitchhiker's Guide, only better
Doesn’t it feel like that world has ended and a new one has begun?
One of the old rules on Wall Street is that whenever conventional wisdom starts to wonder if the latest bubble actually means that we've entered a new world where the old rules don't apply, then the latest bubble is on the verge of bursting and it's time to get out.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Saturday, 23 October 2021 18:34 (two years ago) link
Agree with all of this 100%. I feel like younger people are giving up on "the system," and I see that as an unequivocally good thing. Maybe they'll manage to wrest a better world from the brittle claws of my parents' generation (and my generation). As for me, I'm glad I never had kids, and I'm mostly living my life as a vulture, picking away at the carcass of a failing society for the 20-30 years I've got left.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Saturday, 23 October 2021 19:37 (two years ago) link
Yeah KM I know exactly what you mean. I don't think there's "no future" exactly but I do know the world is going to look radically different by the time my kids are my age. It might not be *entirely* a bad thing. I mean this current generation of teens feels so much different to my generation already; I've met so many young people who are already radicalized by the events of the last few years and I am guessing a lot of these people are going to be in political power soon. I was taught from a young age to value money and "hard work" above all else which in the world of Tether and NFTs and Gamestop feels like a cruel joke. Like imagine explaining to a class of 3rd graders that you have to work for money to buy things but also that there are like 3 people who own as much as half the country combined. Can you imagine being born in say, 2003, and watching the older generation lose their fucking minds over Donald Trump? How do you trust your elders after that? How do you trust the American system?
It does at least have *something* to do with Trump imo because his primary appeal to Republican voters was not the racism or even the cruelty but rather that he appeared to have successfully avoided the gravity of reality. dude was dumb as bricks but still managed to make a lot of money for himself, fuck a bunch of models, commit unlimited amounts of crime, and do and say whatever he wanted. To me that's Trumpism to the core. It's nothing but an escape from reality. They want to live in a world where America is always #1, where their way of life continues forever, where climate change isn't real, where every crime Trump committed was imagined by the "fake news", where Trump won in a landslide, where Covid is some cooked up scheme by globalists to destroy the good guys for whatever reason, etc. etc., and since we are at the point where these people would literally rather DIE than face reality (see r/HermanCainAward) it seems like the entire American worldview which has coddled these beliefs for so long can only collapse, which I guess can go one of two ways. I try to be optimistic but I can totally see why that's so difficult right now.
― frogbs, Saturday, 23 October 2021 20:14 (two years ago) link
guys don't worry, rome didn't fall in a day.
― antebellum tension fatigue (Hunt3r), Sunday, 24 October 2021 03:24 (two years ago) link
Naming his planned network PRAVDA Social is pretty funny. Trump 2024: TRUMP HARDER
― antebellum tension fatigue (Hunt3r), Sunday, 24 October 2021 08:06 (two years ago) link
Is all that methane good for global warming?
― Stevolende, Sunday, 24 October 2021 08:40 (two years ago) link
What a fucking little pig...
https://www.thedailybeast.com/donald-trump-jr-is-hawking-shockingly-tacky-alex-baldwin-kills-people-t-shirts
― Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 25 October 2021 15:22 (two years ago) link
…
― Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 25 October 2021 15:24 (two years ago) link
I knew when conservatives started railing against "political correctness" that it was only a short step to "I can just be an unmitigated fucking asshole with no repercussions." And here we are.
― Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Monday, 25 October 2021 17:06 (two years ago) link
Conservatism is just a "Calvin peeing on..." meme these days
― Chappies banging dustbin lids together (President Keyes), Monday, 25 October 2021 17:40 (two years ago) link
This piece from yesterday is of interest in that regard
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/10/evangelical-trump-christians-politics/620469/
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 25 October 2021 17:42 (two years ago) link
You live by the sword, you die by the sword.
― Hannibal Lecture (PBKR), Monday, 25 October 2021 18:27 (two years ago) link
When the Christian faith is politicized, churches become repositories not of grace but of grievances, places where tribal identities are reinforced, where fears are nurtured, and where aggression and nastiness are sacralized.
There were church leaders warning about this back during the rise of Falwell and the Moral Majority.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Monday, 25 October 2021 18:28 (two years ago) link
And yet . . .
― Hannibal Lecture (PBKR), Monday, 25 October 2021 18:30 (two years ago) link
It's also rich that Peter Wehner wrote that article, as he's certainly helped contribute to the culture of White Evangelical Nationalism. Someone ought to tell him that if you make your bed and also shit in it, you can't wring your hands about your little oopsy-poopsy.
― I'm a sovereign jizz citizen (the table is the table), Monday, 25 October 2021 18:32 (two years ago) link
“Nearly everyone tells me there is at the very least a small group in nearly every evangelical church complaining and agitating against teaching or policies that aren’t sufficiently conservative or anti-woke,” a pastor and prominent figure within the evangelical world told me. (Like others with whom I spoke about this topic, he requested anonymity in order to speak candidly.) “It’s everywhere.”
good article so far, but had to lol a bit at this.
it's been everywhere for at least 30 years dude!!!
― typo hell #14: neanderthal started writing it not know how it (Karl Malone), Monday, 25 October 2021 19:49 (two years ago) link
this is interesting, though, and something i haven't thought about:
“What we’re seeing is massive discipleship failure caused by massive catechesis failure,” James Ernest, the vice president and editor in chief at Eerdmans, a publisher of religious books, told me. Ernest was one of several figures I spoke with who pointed to catechism, the process of instructing and informing people through teaching, as the source of the problem. “The evangelical Church in the U.S. over the last five decades has failed to form its adherents into disciples. So there is a great hollowness. All that was needed to cause the implosion that we have seen was a sufficiently provocative stimulus. And that stimulus came.”
i've never really thought about catechism because it was never present in any evangelical context that i knew of. the pastor and the assistant pastor (aka "the music guy" who led the band through so many endless power ballads as people were saved) had degrees from some theological place, but in general, the vibe was "if you are an expert, you are an expert" everywhere else. it does seem like abandoning theological coherence and just leaving it to everybody to come up with their own ideas would soon lead to...the average republican?
― typo hell #14: neanderthal started writing it not know how it (Karl Malone), Monday, 25 October 2021 20:03 (two years ago) link
The idea that the average white evangelical over the last 30 years would have renounced the political elements of their agenda had only they been better instructed in Christ's teachings is total and complete fucking bullshit made up by some evangelical numbnuts who apparently doesn't like realizing what side he's been on the last 30 years.
― Hannibal Lecture (PBKR), Monday, 25 October 2021 20:27 (two years ago) link
This isn't directed at you Karl so sorry if it seemed that way. Reacting to the quote.
― Hannibal Lecture (PBKR), Monday, 25 October 2021 20:29 (two years ago) link
i'm not sure that's what he said, though! or at least, not the claim that better instruction would have led to renouncing political elements.
i see it more as just making a connection between the empty theology ("great hollowness") and the willingness of white evangelicals, more than any other religious group, to go waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay out there on conspiracy theories and anti-masking and shit like that
― typo hell #14: neanderthal started writing it not know how it (Karl Malone), Monday, 25 October 2021 20:31 (two years ago) link
xp!
He's making a pretty direct comparison. The two paragraphs preceding your quoted paragraph are referencing the politicization of evangelicals. I don't see how Christ's teachings change that politicization - it's a feature, not a bug.
― Hannibal Lecture (PBKR), Monday, 25 October 2021 20:41 (two years ago) link
sure, but there are many ways to be politicized. the direction that evangelicals have gone isn't predetermined by those teachings. it would be amazing if all of a sudden evangelicals were focused on the jesus of the gospels and suddenly understood that they were supposed to have compassion for those they disagreed with, and also that they weren't supposed to be figuring out how to get more money all of the time, for example
― typo hell #14: neanderthal started writing it not know how it (Karl Malone), Monday, 25 October 2021 20:54 (two years ago) link
I'm mildly curious as to what these anti-woke activist would say when asked to define what 'woke' means to them
― Andy the Grasshopper, Monday, 25 October 2021 20:59 (two years ago) link
Focusing on (or even mentioning) racial issues, because "I don't see color" afaik.
Sermons are short. Only some churchgoers attend adult-education classes, and even fewer attend Bible study and small groups. Cable news, however, is always on. “So if people are getting one kind of catechesis for half an hour per week,” Jacobs asked, “and another for dozens of hours per week, which one do you think will win out?”
I thought this was key. My parents do this with CNN and MSNBC. Their friends/relatives are 24/7 Fox, if they haven't moved on to the hard stuff like OANN.
― Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Monday, 25 October 2021 21:01 (two years ago) link
yeah, basically CRT, woke, etc boils down to any discussion of race whatsoever.
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Monday, 25 October 2021 21:07 (two years ago) link
Old people leave the TV on all the time, it seems. My parents still don't have cable!
― I'm a sovereign jizz citizen (the table is the table), Monday, 25 October 2021 21:16 (two years ago) link
I don't even have parents.
― Hannibal Lecture (PBKR), Monday, 25 October 2021 21:19 (two years ago) link
I don't even own a parent
― Gardyloominati (Neanderthal), Monday, 25 October 2021 21:20 (two years ago) link
i don't even have an alibi, TRUMP! full circle
― typo hell #14: neanderthal started writing it not know how it (Karl Malone), Monday, 25 October 2021 21:20 (two years ago) link
I’m so grateful that my parents listen to classical music 24/7 and not news or cable.
― Typo? Negative! (Boring, Maryland), Monday, 25 October 2021 21:21 (two years ago) link
Don't they watch The Price is Right anymore? What the hell is wrong with these boomers
― Andy the Grasshopper, Monday, 25 October 2021 21:23 (two years ago) link
just make sure they're not listening to wagner 24/7, that's a warning sign
― typo hell #14: neanderthal started writing it not know how it (Karl Malone), Monday, 25 October 2021 21:24 (two years ago) link
Everyone always does that whole thing but whatever, having a house without TV or cable TV is actually good and I don't give a fuck if that makes me some sort of snooty asshole. TV sucks. Period.
― I'm a sovereign jizz citizen (the table is the table), Monday, 25 October 2021 21:32 (two years ago) link
He’s heard of many congregants leaving their church because it didn’t match their politics, he told me, but has never once heard of someone changing their politics because it didn’t match their church’s teaching. He often tells his congregation that if the Bible doesn’t challenge your politics at least occasionally, you’re not really paying attention to the Hebrew scriptures or the New Testament. The reality, however, is that a lot of people, especially in this era, will leave a church if their political views are ever challenged, even around the edges.
HENLEY: Well, yeah.
― mothersbaugh of invention (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 25 October 2021 21:33 (two years ago) link
100%
xp to table
― typo hell #14: neanderthal started writing it not know how it (Karl Malone), Monday, 25 October 2021 21:33 (two years ago) link
this is gold pic.twitter.com/PY9mDTBNeg— MeidasTouch.com (@MeidasTouch) October 31, 2021
(which was at this game - he announced that he was invited but they refuted that: he called and asked them : https://sports.yahoo.com/mlb-refutes-trump-claim-they-invited-him-to-world-series-200004450.html )
― StanM, Sunday, 31 October 2021 14:57 (two years ago) link
Trump on Waukesha: The good news is he hated Trump pic.twitter.com/hE800i5Gvb— Acyn (@Acyn) November 24, 2021
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 24 November 2021 14:02 (two years ago) link
used to be disgusted by that stuff but turns out this is how the entire American right thinks
― frogbs, Wednesday, 24 November 2021 14:10 (two years ago) link
Little Rocket Man --> Little Rifle Man
Trump having a photo of Kim Jong-un on his wall is so painfully on brand https://t.co/Fcvh1maspa— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) November 24, 2021
― Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 25 November 2021 17:02 (two years ago) link
http://screenrant.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/injustice-league-hall-of-doom.jpg
― When Young Sheldon began to rap (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 25 November 2021 17:18 (two years ago) link
MELANIA NFT
Melania Trump is getting in on the latest crypto craze -- NFTs.The former first lady announced that she is selling an NFT, or a non-fungible token, titled "Melania's Vision" -- her first public endeavor since leaving office almost one year ago. https://t.co/Sg2ypIH7nw— CNN (@CNN) December 16, 2021
― Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 16 December 2021 20:19 (two years ago) link
Wow, she's like Mother Teresa reincarnate
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 16 December 2021 20:55 (two years ago) link
Feels like a rare misstep - the rubes and marks who buy Trump shit are a different group than the rubes and marks who buy NFTs.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 16 December 2021 20:56 (two years ago) link
A lotta creepy middle-aged MAGA dudes furiously googling "NFTs" this afternoon.
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 16 December 2021 21:02 (two years ago) link
The NFT is a "watercolor" by Marc-Antoine Coulon that includes an audio recording of Trump
Doesn't say which Trump
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 16 December 2021 21:22 (two years ago) link
Surely there’s a “Be Best” joke here just waiting to write itself
― Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 16 December 2021 21:24 (two years ago) link
hoping it's a recording of Trump, the famous Hearthstone pro
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Thursday, 16 December 2021 21:28 (two years ago) link
To be fair, apparently this whole scam is ostensibly a benefit for "Be Best" and will help foster kids learn computer skills
Of course, we all know the sordid history of Trump charities...
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 16 December 2021 21:48 (two years ago) link
BE BEAST
― When Young Sheldon began to rap (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 16 December 2021 22:02 (two years ago) link
Weird Trump Thing I Remembered Today: Going off on 'The Lovers' during rally speeches by playing both parts (and doing all the sound effects) in little one-man show about Strzok & Page making out.
― Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 16 December 2021 22:42 (two years ago) link
― Nedlene Grendel as Basenji Holmo (map), Thursday, 16 December 2021 23:16 (two years ago) link
Checking out what our friends at https://t.co/upnTTxj8TI think about Trump telling a crowd in Dallas that he got his covid booster shot pic.twitter.com/lpLdIGfZqu— Aric Toler (@AricToler) December 21, 2021
― Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 21 December 2021 19:23 (two years ago) link
I think they forced him to take the first vaxx and it changed his DNA and now he's a blonde redhead.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDwhWF9WS70
― Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 21 December 2021 19:32 (two years ago) link
xpost ^ Yet another bit of evidence that there's no reversing the process of sanity erosion once it's begun
― Rep. Cobra Commander (R-TX) (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 21 December 2021 19:34 (two years ago) link
Absolute devotion flipping to total scorn and rejection? The only through-line is the high drama that must be sustained every day, like a soap opera, but with more apeshit crazy.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 21 December 2021 19:41 (two years ago) link
He's either a deep fake or reptilian but he can't be both
― Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 21 December 2021 19:54 (two years ago) link
That's exactly what They want you to think!
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 21 December 2021 19:58 (two years ago) link
He tied it once or twice, found it all right for kicksNow he's gonna find out it's a habit that sticksand he's a Vax Booster addict
― Chappies banging dustbin lids together (President Keyes), Wednesday, 22 December 2021 15:34 (two years ago) link
Yesterday, #DonaldTrump released this statement.....what I want to know is WHO WANTS TO DEBATE DONALD TRUMP? Was @JoeBiden really the loser in a RIGGED and CROOKED election.#MerryChristmas2021 #MerryChristmas pic.twitter.com/hlJJklYbz4— Dushan Skorich🗓📺📊 (@dukeduluth) December 24, 2021
The words of a man who now, in the last few days, is now legitimately hated by everyone in the nation. MERRY XMAS TO ALL!
― Max Hamburgers (Eric H.), Friday, 24 December 2021 14:40 (two years ago) link
Gotta admit "Unselect" Committee is a pretty sick burn.
― henry s, Friday, 24 December 2021 15:00 (two years ago) link
Ha! And he just admitted in an interview he didn't win the election...
In a new interview, Trump admits he lost the 2020 election. pic.twitter.com/2zM2lyAF0d— Ron Filipkowski (@RonFilipkowski) December 23, 2021
― Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 24 December 2021 15:16 (two years ago) link
Instead of having debate, they should have to play each other in Jeopardy.
― earlnash, Friday, 24 December 2021 15:28 (two years ago) link
I just wish he was dead.
― Enjoy the brighter sounds of Analog on CD (stevie), Friday, 24 December 2021 17:35 (two years ago) link
Still hoping for jail while he's compos enough to notice.
― dark end of the st. maud (sic), Friday, 24 December 2021 19:23 (two years ago) link
Rooting for “torn apart by his own former supporters”
― epistantophus, Friday, 24 December 2021 21:44 (two years ago) link
― Nedlene Grendel as Basenji Holmo (map), Friday, 24 December 2021 21:50 (two years ago) link
Stevie OTM
― Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 24 December 2021 21:54 (two years ago) link
This is the moment when he became ex-presidential
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Friday, 24 December 2021 22:12 (two years ago) link
I visited my parents in January of 2017, before we moved back to Philly, and my mom and I were driving through the city to visit my aunt. There was some horrible story about Trump on the radio, and I said, "I really wish someone would just assassinate this guy." we were at a stoplight, and my mom looked at me, then looked forward and said, "i do too, sweetie."
Poignant moments there.
― we need outrage! we need dicks!! (the table is the table), Saturday, 25 December 2021 15:50 (two years ago) link
Lol that is awesome
― hopefully this review helped someone (Neanderthal), Saturday, 25 December 2021 16:39 (two years ago) link
Ambushed by unexpected emotion ^
― epistantophus, Saturday, 25 December 2021 17:41 (two years ago) link
oh boy i wish such a moment were a possibility for me
― Enjoy the brighter sounds of Analog on CD (stevie), Monday, 27 December 2021 09:53 (two years ago) link
My mom and I spent a fair amount of energy in early 2020 debating the likely outcome of the election — I argued that it would be the usual Republican soft coup through electoral college shenanigans etc, but my mom anticipated an actual violent insurrection. Turns out we were both right!
― recovering internet addict/shitposter (viborg), Monday, 27 December 2021 10:07 (two years ago) link
Your mom sounds funny, the table…
― recovering internet addict/shitposter (viborg), Monday, 27 December 2021 10:08 (two years ago) link
Don Jr’s new fiance looks like if you tried to draw Melania from memory pic.twitter.com/9Vs99R2Kp3— Zack Bornstein (@ZackBornstein) January 4, 2022
― Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 5 January 2022 01:39 (two years ago) link
that photo takes creepy to a higher level
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 5 January 2022 01:52 (two years ago) link
reminds me of the Michael Jackson, Elizabeth Taylor, Liza Minnelli, David Guest photo, although not quite as creepy
― Dan S, Wednesday, 5 January 2022 02:04 (two years ago) link
It's like those photos of a celebrity standing next to their wax duplicate and you can't tell which is which
― Rep. Cobra Commander (R-TX) (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 5 January 2022 02:58 (two years ago) link
My mother and I have had similar conversations over the years, but your version is somehow much more poignant, table.
― Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 5 January 2022 03:17 (two years ago) link
never wise to get overly excited about this stuff, but this thread and the accompanying motion to compel seems significant
We have uncovered significant evidence indicating that the Trump Organization used fraudulent and misleading asset valuations on multiple properties to obtain economic benefits, including loans, insurance coverage, and tax deductions for years.— NY AG James (@NewYorkStateAG) January 19, 2022
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Wednesday, 19 January 2022 05:46 (two years ago) link
AG Tweeting about ongoing investigation seems not good idea
― Chappies banging dustbin lids together (President Keyes), Wednesday, 19 January 2022 11:56 (two years ago) link
Agreed, don't show your cards until you're ready to go all in.
I suspect that that nearly every developer plays that game to some degree and fraud is v hard to prove, so the evidence better be pretty obnoxious. On the plus side, Trump is known to be greedy and obnoxious.
― removing bookmarks never felt so good (PBKR), Wednesday, 19 January 2022 12:34 (two years ago) link
maybe it's a strategy, he might just reveal some evidence by accident
― StanM, Wednesday, 19 January 2022 12:39 (two years ago) link
violates the rules of professional conduct imo
― towards fungal computer (harbl), Wednesday, 19 January 2022 12:41 (two years ago) link
^totally agree
― Ste, Wednesday, 19 January 2022 12:45 (two years ago) link
did we get this sorted lads?
― Khafre's clown (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 19 January 2022 12:46 (two years ago) link
“Eric Trump then invoked his Fifth Amendment right against self-incrimination in response to more than 500 questions over six hours.” pic.twitter.com/wWGKBY6RN3— southpaw (@nycsouthpaw) January 19, 2022
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 19 January 2022 14:04 (two years ago) link
Huh, don't know why that ? showed up, I actually have very few questions here.
And in other news:
NEW: Sidney Powell, a lawyer who pushed unfounded fraud conspiracies after the 2020 election on Trump’s behalf, says in a statement through her attorney she will appear before the 1/6 Committee & answer qs. But her attorney says Powell still believes there was election fraud.— Ana Cabrera (@AnaCabrera) January 19, 2022
Of course one of the few of these big names who may in fact actually be mentally ill is the one to right away say "sure, I'll talk."
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 19 January 2022 14:29 (two years ago) link
re NY AG: is she actually putting anything into those tweets that isn't addressed in exhaustive detail in the accompanying court filing?
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Wednesday, 19 January 2022 14:33 (two years ago) link
agree with not showing cards, unfortunately stupid lefty voters harass these types of folks all the time when they don't by writing dumb shit like "WHAT ARE YOU DOING? WHY IS THERE NO NEWS ON INVESTIGATIONS?", as if they think this shit is all instant.
doesn't mean the AG needs to pay them any mind though
― they were written with a ouija board and a rhyming dictionary (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 19 January 2022 14:33 (two years ago) link
Don't know why she went public with anything just now, but knowing (all too well) the infamously arrogant, capricious, stupid targets, I would not be shocked if this provokes even more crimes and/or evidence out of them. In fact, if they keep their mouths shut after this shot across the bow I'd read that as proof that she's got a good case and they know it.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 19 January 2022 14:48 (two years ago) link
hi everyone, just want to point out she "went public" by filing a 160 page motion to compel Trump and family to be deposed. This was not a standalone twitter outburst. If you want a slightly more detailed version, go to the link below, but the filing itself is public, so this isn't some weird announcement just to appease angry people on twitter
https://ag.ny.gov/press-release/2022/attorney-general-james-takes-action-force-donald-j-trump-donald-trump-jr-and
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Wednesday, 19 January 2022 14:51 (two years ago) link
For those who have given up hope that there will ever be any real consequences for those vermin, at least turning on the kitchen light and making them scurry around a bit (and have their assistants' assistants' interns stay up late shredding things) might be seen as slightly better than nothing? I don't know and won't pretend to know.
― umami dearest (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 19 January 2022 14:52 (two years ago) link
The biggest fucking dud in American history.
― jimbeaux, Wednesday, 19 January 2022 15:13 (two years ago) link
https://c.tenor.com/M4njES4jiw4AAAAC/leon-airplane-the-movie.gif
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 19 January 2022 15:15 (two years ago) link
real question is gonna be whether or not any of this is gonna be finished before he gets installed as president for life
― frogbs, Wednesday, 19 January 2022 15:16 (two years ago) link
I fully expect it to be clear that they’re all guilty, but it will be election season so there’s some sort of justice Dept policy that the person is completely above the law until the great people of the USA vote for the criminal or not. They will.
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 19 January 2022 15:34 (two years ago) link
And then anyone involved in investigating him will be the first sentenced to death in his new kangaroo court.
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 19 January 2022 15:36 (two years ago) link
turning on the kitchen light and making them scurry around a bit
fyi I adore this analogy
― Ste, Wednesday, 19 January 2022 15:51 (two years ago) link
it will be election season so there’s some sort of justice Dept policy that the person is completely above the law until the great people of the USA vote for the criminal or not.
I would imagine something like this has already been floated by McConnell, and Manchin and Sinema agree.
― Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 19 January 2022 17:18 (two years ago) link
lol yeah of course! we can't allow our justice dept to sway an election in any way
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 19 January 2022 17:21 (two years ago) link
Donald Trump has only $93 million in cash left, according to Forbes. His properties are all indebted. The Trumps could potentially owe $100 to $300 million or more in back taxes, restitution, and penalties — and that’s just in the NY AG civil case alone.— Tristan Snell (@TristanSnell) January 27, 2022
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 27 January 2022 22:22 (two years ago) link
until 2021 he had as much money as deutsche bank wanted him to have
― adam t. (abanana), Thursday, 27 January 2022 22:27 (two years ago) link
He can run again and raise a lot of campaign cash, then lose and have control of what's left over.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 27 January 2022 22:42 (two years ago) link
I hope he spends his final days penniless and in total obscurity.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 27 January 2022 22:43 (two years ago) link
As much as I would love to see it, he'll never be completely broke. There are enough morons out there who adore the shit out of him that, even if he were reduced to utter penury, they'd throw money at him just to own the libs.
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 27 January 2022 22:45 (two years ago) link
Not enough to make him "wealthy" again, but I fear he'll always grift enough to stay afloat and be a constant presence.
A debilitating stroke would end that.
And then someone could wheel him in front of a TV playing Obama's 2012 roast of him on an endless loop.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 27 January 2022 22:48 (two years ago) link
best way to give him a stroke is just one of us follow him around with an airhorn that we blow at erratic, inconsistent times each day
― they were written with a ouija board and a rhyming dictionary (Neanderthal), Thursday, 27 January 2022 23:13 (two years ago) link
let's not think of giving trump a stroke right now, these are intense times for all of us
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 27 January 2022 23:15 (two years ago) link
Hahaha
― Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 27 January 2022 23:15 (two years ago) link
$93 million in cash is actually a lot of money
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 27 January 2022 23:18 (two years ago) link
Not if you have $738 million in debt.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 27 January 2022 23:19 (two years ago) link
they're just going to "find another trump"
― i cannot help if you made yourself not funny (forksclovetofu), Friday, 28 January 2022 01:28 (two years ago) link
folks pic.twitter.com/o9O6uH88oc— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) February 1, 2022
― Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 2 February 2022 00:45 (two years ago) link
http://static.simpsonswiki.com/images/thumb/0/05/How_to_Cook_for_Forty_Humans.png/240px-How_to_Cook_for_Forty_Humans.png
― i cannot help if you made yourself not funny (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 2 February 2022 04:25 (two years ago) link
https://images.firstpost.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/Donald-Trump-McDonalds-380.jpg?impolicy=website&width=320&height=180
Lads Who Lunch
― Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 2 February 2022 04:48 (two years ago) link
Friend, I've decided to do/Something I rarely do/in the hope that you'll join me
good yacht rock lyrics
― Chappies banging dustbin lids together (President Keyes), Wednesday, 2 February 2022 14:51 (two years ago) link
I don't seek them out, but his various missives and declarations, while horrifying, are also kind of hilarious. Very birthday gift stationary "From the Desk of" energy.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 2 February 2022 15:05 (two years ago) link
"I've decided to do something I RARELY DO in the hope that you'll join me for lunch." Poll options:
[] use stairs[] drink water[] speak with Barron
― nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Wednesday, 2 February 2022 15:14 (two years ago) link
WipeChewThink before speakingExercise
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 2 February 2022 15:22 (two years ago) link
Shake Hands?
― Mark G, Wednesday, 2 February 2022 16:33 (two years ago) link
Eat a salad?
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 2 February 2022 16:33 (two years ago) link
Pretend to be Klunk from "Dastardly and Muttley in Their Flying Machines" ?
― Mark G, Wednesday, 2 February 2022 16:39 (two years ago) link
Here’s a note that was sent to Mar-a-Lago club members this week, advertising the former president as disc jockey. pic.twitter.com/shfLBPOPU1— Maggie Haberman (@maggieNYT) February 4, 2022
DJ Dr. Donnie Covid
― Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 5 February 2022 00:03 (two years ago) link
WTF songs would he play? Lee Greenwood and "YMCA"?
― Andy the Grasshopper, Saturday, 5 February 2022 00:07 (two years ago) link
Brimful of bangers from prez 45
― Agnes, Agatha, Germaine and Jack (Willl), Saturday, 5 February 2022 00:08 (two years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPRfP_TEQ-g
― Karl Malone, Saturday, 5 February 2022 00:13 (two years ago) link
JFC... is that "heart of glass" underneath all that dreck?
― Andy the Grasshopper, Saturday, 5 February 2022 00:16 (two years ago) link
Strangely he is really into Helado Negro
― i cannot help if you made yourself not funny (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 5 February 2022 00:25 (two years ago) link
that video is still one of my picks for 20 Revolting Things That Happened
― Karl Malone, Saturday, 5 February 2022 00:51 (two years ago) link
why are you all memorializing him? is my question
― Dan S, Saturday, 5 February 2022 01:03 (two years ago) link
this thread should be deep in the ilx graveyard
deep-sixing has been tried with mixed results: Flush this question out
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Saturday, 5 February 2022 01:19 (two years ago) link
This is less "memorializing" and more 'look at this dumb sad asshole' (who still has a good shot at ruining what's left of this country).
― Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 5 February 2022 02:01 (two years ago) link
it's still about accepting and by extension valorizing him
― Dan S, Saturday, 5 February 2022 02:37 (two years ago) link
I'll save the valorization for after his straight-fire DJ set at Coachella.
― Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 5 February 2022 02:47 (two years ago) link
DJT-Kicks
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 5 February 2022 02:56 (two years ago) link
― beard papa, Saturday, 5 February 2022 07:57 (two years ago) link
Take Helado's name out of your mouth!
― There's A Goots In My House (stevie), Saturday, 5 February 2022 11:05 (two years ago) link
JUST NOW: "Staff in WH residence would periodically find the toilet clogged. The engineer would have to come and fix it. What the engineer would find would be wads of clumped up wet, printed paper." @maggieNYT on concerns of Trump flushing documents.pic.twitter.com/dertOPEXYm— John Berman (@JohnBerman) February 10, 2022
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 10 February 2022 14:37 (two years ago) link
Damn low flow toilets!
― Johnny Mathis der Maler (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 10 February 2022 14:41 (two years ago) link
White House Plumbers always cleaning up messes
― Chappies banging dustbin lids together (President Keyes), Thursday, 10 February 2022 15:04 (two years ago) link
Of course he's denying he flushed papers down the toilet, but I'm not sure I saw a denial that he *ate* documents. Considering our own suspicions of what damage he did to the toilets and pipes through diet alone, I think they may both be right: staff did find documents clogging the toilets, but Asshole did not put them there. At least, not directly ...
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 10 February 2022 16:19 (two years ago) link
to be fair, when COVID kicked off, there was a toilet paper shortage
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Thursday, 10 February 2022 16:21 (two years ago) link
Glad to learn Haberman saved this bit for her book.
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 10 February 2022 16:22 (two years ago) link
oh no I have accidentally valorized Donald Trump by laughing at his DJ set
― Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 10 February 2022 16:46 (two years ago) link
is this why he used to complain about toilets needing 10-15 flushes
― frogbs, Thursday, 10 February 2022 17:13 (two years ago) link
well that plus a diet of aspartame, evil, and ketchup on well-done steak, but mostly evil
― imam and apple pie (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 10 February 2022 17:17 (two years ago) link
"This plumbing is from the 19th Century! Please put only toilet paper in the toilet, not wipes or confidential documents!"
- handwritten sign in the Coolidge Lavatory
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 10 February 2022 17:50 (two years ago) link
he stole the goddamn sharpied hurricane pic.twitter.com/c4iZ8iL1xY— kilgore trout, cryptopolice chief (@KT_So_It_Goes) February 10, 2022
― Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 10 February 2022 23:44 (two years ago) link
Don Jr. probably planned to sell the purloined papers later on.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 10 February 2022 23:50 (two years ago) link
Don Jr. flushed the papers and told everybody it was his stash.
― Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 10 February 2022 23:58 (two years ago) link
Oh shit nft
― Johnny Mathis der Maler (Boring, Maryland), Friday, 11 February 2022 00:47 (two years ago) link
Gonna guess this ... is not normal.
News - Mazars has effectively fired the Trump Organization, citing a non-waivable conflict, and determined that Trump's financial statements from 2011-20 should not be relied on, per a letter to Alan Garten filed in court today. pic.twitter.com/UmC1nVe4ZP— southpaw (@nycsouthpaw) February 14, 2022
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 14 February 2022 23:09 (two years ago) link
Deeply un-normal. Mazars is pretty clearly saying:
"Wow the money you reported isn't the case.""That apartment thing really looks fucking illegal.""We don't want to get sued or prosecuted, pretty please.""Attention any other firms on our general level: we don't recommend them as a client."
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 14 February 2022 23:11 (two years ago) link
Rhetorical question cause I know “elite impunity”. Again, how the fuck has he been allowed to flout the law his whole life?
― Johnny Mathis der Maler (Boring, Maryland), Monday, 14 February 2022 23:18 (two years ago) link
"When you're famous ... "
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 14 February 2022 23:32 (two years ago) link
CALLING IT NOW: TRUMP/MEYER 2024
urban meyer’s latest stop in his incredible journey to cartoon supervillain pic.twitter.com/2larhNPPx5— kilgore trout, cryptopolice chief (@KT_So_It_Goes) February 14, 2022
can’t stop laughing at this centerpiece of a mangled espn football and the helmet of the worst nfl team this decade containing a sad 99 cent pennant pic.twitter.com/s3GWg2wNqc— kilgore trout, cryptopolice chief (@KT_So_It_Goes) February 14, 2022
― Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 14 February 2022 23:39 (two years ago) link
I'm hoping one of the Trump access journalists will tell us whether Don Jr's screed last night came after pre-notice from Mazars.— emptywheel (@emptywheel) February 14, 2022
In the screed (which is in the comments and which I listened to 3 seconds of) he sounds exactly like Rush Limbaugh. Also, I guess the Mazars letter went out a few days ago, so DJTJ has I imagine been stewing. Though we already know he's stewed. Stewed, screwed and tattooed.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 14 February 2022 23:59 (two years ago) link
Re: the Mazars letter to Trump, that's as loud a withdrawal as you are ever going to see.
― removing bookmarks never felt so good (PBKR), Tuesday, 15 February 2022 03:08 (two years ago) link
didn't pull out in time
― sorry Mario, but our princess is in another butthole (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 15 February 2022 03:32 (two years ago) link
*show all messages*
ctrl+f "urban meyer" =0
― bad luck banging, or Lorna Doone (sic), Tuesday, 15 February 2022 07:03 (two years ago) link
HE'S IN THE TWEET, SHOWN ATTENDING A SUPERBOWL PARTY SEATED IN CLOSE QUARTERS TO TWO-SCOOPS AND ENJOYING HIS COMPANY.
― Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 15 February 2022 07:30 (two years ago) link
I've assumed the next non-Trump GOP President would be a footbaw coach, my money was on Saban but then he backed voting rights and I guess is a Democrat.
― papal hotwife (milo z), Tuesday, 15 February 2022 07:40 (two years ago) link
who the fuck is urban meyer
― bad luck banging, or Lorna Doone (sic), Tuesday, 15 February 2022 07:53 (two years ago) link
Flat bottom, a conical body, cylindrical neck?
― peace, man, Tuesday, 15 February 2022 11:55 (two years ago) link
Running with Urban Meyer seems to be a great move if you want to lose Michigan.
― removing bookmarks never felt so good (PBKR), Tuesday, 15 February 2022 12:12 (two years ago) link
lol pic.twitter.com/0a16jjVoRw— Ken Klippenstein (@kenklippenstein) February 15, 2022
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 15 February 2022 13:27 (two years ago) link
Abusive former College & NFL coach.
https://apnews.com/article/nfl-sports-business-florida-jacksonville-jaguars-4cded3f50853c703e1876c8e0150ba33
― Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 15 February 2022 15:04 (two years ago) link
what a miserable looking superbowl party! Those chairs look so uncomfortable even
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Tuesday, 15 February 2022 15:10 (two years ago) link
― removing bookmarks never felt so good (PBKR), Tuesday, February 15, 2022 6:12 AM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
he's none too well-liked in Florida either
― frogbs, Tuesday, 15 February 2022 15:12 (two years ago) link
Ohio, too, afaik.
― tobo73, Tuesday, 15 February 2022 15:18 (two years ago) link
https://aaronrupar.substack.com/p/ignoring-trump?r=ex4o
― Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 15 February 2022 22:31 (two years ago) link
Talk about a conflict of interest.
― removing bookmarks never felt so good (PBKR), Tuesday, 15 February 2022 22:50 (two years ago) link
A Manhattan judge refused to quash civil subpoenas and depositions for former President Donald Trump and his children in a blistering ruling on Thursday, writing that it would have been “blatant dereliction of duty” not to investigate them.“For OAG not to have investigated the original respondents, and not to have subpoenaed the new Trump respondents, would have been a blatant dereliction of duty (and would have broken an oft repeated campaign promise). Indeed, the impetus for the investigation was not personal animus, not racial or ethnic or other discrimination, not campaign promises, but was sworn congressional testimony by former Trump associate Michael Cohen that respondents were ‘cooking the books,'” Manhattan Supreme Court Justice Arthur Engoron wrote in a 8-page ruling.Trump and his children Ivanka Trump and Donald Trump Jr. have 21 days from the date of his order to sit for a deposition, Engoron ruled.
“For OAG not to have investigated the original respondents, and not to have subpoenaed the new Trump respondents, would have been a blatant dereliction of duty (and would have broken an oft repeated campaign promise). Indeed, the impetus for the investigation was not personal animus, not racial or ethnic or other discrimination, not campaign promises, but was sworn congressional testimony by former Trump associate Michael Cohen that respondents were ‘cooking the books,'” Manhattan Supreme Court Justice Arthur Engoron wrote in a 8-page ruling.
Trump and his children Ivanka Trump and Donald Trump Jr. have 21 days from the date of his order to sit for a deposition, Engoron ruled.
Attorney Alan Futerfas, arguing for the president’s children, argued that the civil investigation could put his clients in criminal jeopardy. During criminal proceedings, one can assert a Fifth Amendment right against self-incrimination without any adverse inference being drawn, but that is not true of a civil investigation. He argued that the what he described as dual nature of James’s investigation stripped his clients of that constitutional right.Engoron skewered that argument in his ruling.“The target of a hybrid civil/criminal investigation cannot use the Fifth Amendment as both a sword and a shield; a shield against questions and a sword against the investigation itself,” he wrote. “When they are deposed, the New Trump Respondents will have the right to refuse to answer any questions that they claim might incriminate them, and that refusal may not be commented on or used against them in a criminal prosecution. However, there is no unfairness in allowing the jurors in a civil case to know these refusals and to draw their own conclusions.”
Engoron skewered that argument in his ruling.
“The target of a hybrid civil/criminal investigation cannot use the Fifth Amendment as both a sword and a shield; a shield against questions and a sword against the investigation itself,” he wrote. “When they are deposed, the New Trump Respondents will have the right to refuse to answer any questions that they claim might incriminate them, and that refusal may not be commented on or used against them in a criminal prosecution. However, there is no unfairness in allowing the jurors in a civil case to know these refusals and to draw their own conclusions.”
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 17 February 2022 22:57 (two years ago) link
Is this gonna be televised
― frogbs, Thursday, 17 February 2022 22:59 (two years ago) link
I don't know, but if you're patient I bet someone will write a book.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 17 February 2022 23:00 (two years ago) link
Be cool if Trump and the kids made a suicide pact rather than testify.
― papal hotwife (milo z), Thursday, 17 February 2022 23:04 (two years ago) link
this defecation will definitely be televised
― sorry Mario, but our princess is in another butthole (Neanderthal), Thursday, 17 February 2022 23:07 (two years ago) link
“them duke boys…” etc.incite a riot. or invite a cavalcade of truckers in their rigs. both, maybe. nothing surprises.
― The Hon. Christian Sharia (R - MO) (Hunt3r), Friday, 18 February 2022 06:30 (two years ago) link
lol ty grisso
Other issues for Meyer:— He hired strength coach Chris Doyle in February despite accusations of racist behavior and then had to let him go a day later because of a pending lawsuit.
— He hired strength coach Chris Doyle in February despite accusations of racist behavior and then had to let him go a day later because of a pending lawsuit.
― bad luck banging, or Lorna Doone (sic), Friday, 18 February 2022 07:13 (two years ago) link
the "POTUS Trump NFT Collection" is ... objectively hideous, a spinning 3d plaque with spinning stars, a 3d flag, protruding text, and on the reverse, a 45 set atop a background of 45s, some of them upside-down, plus a tiny photo that's probably Trump but can you really tell? pic.twitter.com/ijClu9NTWm— Stuart A. Thompson (@stuartathompson) February 22, 2022
― Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 23 February 2022 00:31 (two years ago) link
There is nothing Donald Trump cannot turn cheap and gaudy.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 23 February 2022 00:37 (two years ago) link
The prospect of receiving payment while providing nothing of any value likely appeals to him
― Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 23 February 2022 00:40 (two years ago) link
The value of that NFT is incredible, it’s huge. Everybody is saying it’s the greatest NFT of all time, which says a lot. The best people, who really know NFTs.
― The Hon. Christian Sharia (R - MO) (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 23 February 2022 00:46 (two years ago) link
Noxious Flatulent Token
― sorry Mario, but our princess is in another butthole (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 23 February 2022 19:07 (two years ago) link
Never Failing Trump
― Chappies banging dustbin lids together (President Keyes), Wednesday, 23 February 2022 19:08 (two years ago) link
Breaking News: The prosecutors leading the Manhattan district attorney’s inquiry into Donald Trump have resigned. The D.A. is said to have doubts about the case. https://t.co/n6W30FopJw— The New York Times (@nytimes) February 23, 2022
― dig your way out of the shit with a gold magic shovel! (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 23 February 2022 19:51 (two years ago) link
Depressingly predictable. This fuckin' guy will never, ever face a single consequence.
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 23 February 2022 19:57 (two years ago) link
did they give a reason??
― frogbs, Wednesday, 23 February 2022 20:02 (two years ago) link
The two prosecutors leading the Manhattan district attorney’s investigation into former President Donald J. Trump and his business practices abruptly resigned on Wednesday amid a monthlong pause in their presentation of evidence to a grand jury, according to people with knowledge of the matter, throwing the future of the high-stakes inquiry into serious doubt.
The prosecutors, Carey R. Dunne and Mark F. Pomerantz, submitted their resignations after the new Manhattan district attorney, Alvin Bragg, indicated to them that he had doubts about moving forward with a case against Mr. Trump, the people said.
Mr. Pomerantz confirmed in a brief interview that he had resigned, but declined to elaborate. Mr. Dunne declined to comment.
Good old fashioned bribery? His threats still carry weight in NYC? They really had nothing? Who knows. The crowing about this will be insufferable.
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 23 February 2022 20:07 (two years ago) link
My reading is that the two prosecutors actually want to pursue it, but this new DA is a wet blanket
― Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 23 February 2022 20:15 (two years ago) link
Aside from Cruz being too try hard at being a normie bro, WTF IS GOING ON WITH THAT PAINTING!?!?!?
Culty https://t.co/64MpXWdBhB— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) February 23, 2022
― Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 23 February 2022 21:42 (two years ago) link
trump has long had one of the tackiest sense of style in the celebrity culture. it's what makes is especially pathetic for his supporters.
i do wonder about the origin of the maga red hat and if they were, in fact, playing first dimensional chess by making it so awful
― dig your way out of the shit with a gold magic shovel! (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 23 February 2022 21:50 (two years ago) link
"Yes sir, that is correct, his exact instructions were indeed to 'paint me like one of your '80s movie villains trying to shut down the upstart tennis academy'".
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 23 February 2022 21:51 (two years ago) link
pic.twitter.com/e4eMrfFosd— ghow (@ghow) February 23, 2022
― celebrating ten years of constant posting (breastcrawl), Wednesday, 23 February 2022 21:54 (two years ago) link
Are they priming Walker for a political career? VP candidate?
― Johnny Mathis der Maler (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 23 February 2022 22:06 (two years ago) link
Walker's running for US Senate (Warnock's seat) in Georgia.
― Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 23 February 2022 22:18 (two years ago) link
A former football player who probably has CTE is a perfect Republican nominee.
― we need outrage! we need dicks!! (the table is the table), Wednesday, 23 February 2022 22:24 (two years ago) link
Walker's son is a chasm of horribleness, I can't imagine hating myself that much.
― we need outrage! we need dicks!! (the table is the table), Wednesday, 23 February 2022 22:25 (two years ago) link
The Story Behind Donald Trump's Epic Mar-A-Lago Portrait
― visiting, Wednesday, 23 February 2022 22:37 (two years ago) link
pic.twitter.com/yalWlfv6ho— Old Donald Trump posts (not affiliated w/Trump) (@oldTrumpTweetz) March 7, 2022
― calzino, Tuesday, 8 March 2022 10:14 (two years ago) link
classic
― Chappies banging dustbin lids together (President Keyes), Tuesday, 8 March 2022 19:29 (two years ago) link
I am very obviously biased because not only do I know the Manhattan DA from college but he also might be my distant cousin, but there was more to what happened to the case than just "the Manhattan DA didn't want to pursue it":
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/05/nyregion/trump-investigation-manhattan-da-alvin-bragg.html
Mr. Bragg was not the only one to question the strength of the case, the interviews show. Late last year, three career prosecutors in the district attorney’s office opted to leave the investigation, uncomfortable with the speed at which it was proceeding and with what they maintained were gaps in the evidence. The tension spilled into the new administration, with some career prosecutors raising concerns directly to the new district attorney’s team.Mr. Bragg, whose office is conducting the investigation along with lawyers working for New York’s attorney general, Letitia James, had not taken issue with Mr. Dunne and Mr. Pomerantz presenting evidence to the grand jury in his first days as district attorney. But as the weeks passed, he developed concerns about the challenge of showing Mr. Trump’s intent — a requirement for proving that he criminally falsified his business records — and about the risks of relying on the former president’s onetime fixer, Michael D. Cohen, as a key witness.
Mr. Bragg, whose office is conducting the investigation along with lawyers working for New York’s attorney general, Letitia James, had not taken issue with Mr. Dunne and Mr. Pomerantz presenting evidence to the grand jury in his first days as district attorney. But as the weeks passed, he developed concerns about the challenge of showing Mr. Trump’s intent — a requirement for proving that he criminally falsified his business records — and about the risks of relying on the former president’s onetime fixer, Michael D. Cohen, as a key witness.
― castanuts (DJP), Tuesday, 8 March 2022 20:16 (two years ago) link
the risks of relying on the former president’s onetime fixer, Michael D. Cohen, as a key witness.
This is only a risk if you consider the possibility of **gasp** losing a high-profile case as a greater risk than than letting gross criminal misconduct, for which you have plentiful evidence, go unchallenged in court.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 8 March 2022 20:43 (two years ago) link
I think if you stopped to process what you were reading before acting like a sanctimonious prick, you would have realized that the assertion here is that proving gross criminal misconduct hinged largely on the testimony of one witness without solid corroborating evidence due to Trump's penchant for avoiding email communication
― castanuts (DJP), Tuesday, 8 March 2022 21:02 (two years ago) link
Yeah if it's not there and nobody flips, *shrug* -- seems like it IS there for Weisselberg, which is why he's hunkering down and taking the hit.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 8 March 2022 21:08 (two years ago) link
Not disagreeing with your take DJP and I gave money to Bragg’s campaign after you posted about him originally, but there is definitely a difference between prosecutors willingness prosecute a drug case without overwhelming evidence and a white collar case without overwhelming evidence. In the latter, there has been a real aversion the last 10-15 years to even the possibility of losing a high profile case, which has not been helpful.
― removing bookmarks never felt so good (PBKR), Tuesday, 8 March 2022 21:16 (two years ago) link
so is this gonna be another thing where Trump gets off scot-free cuz he's so dumb you can't actually prove he was trying to break the law
― frogbs, Tuesday, 8 March 2022 21:27 (two years ago) link
basically yes
― castanuts (DJP), Tuesday, 8 March 2022 21:29 (two years ago) link
"challenged in court" and then not being convicted gives him a "See, I was proven innocent! The libs like to persecute me!" take.
― nickn, Tuesday, 8 March 2022 21:36 (two years ago) link
We've heard that from him hundreds of times already so I wouldn't really say *this* gives him that
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 8 March 2022 21:57 (two years ago) link
To his followers it would, "tried in court and found innocent" vs him just saying he's innocent.
― nickn, Wednesday, 9 March 2022 00:34 (two years ago) link
due to Trump's penchant for avoiding email communication
Give the guy a break, he simply couldn't find that AOL installation disc he got in 2001
― jenny from the blockchain (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 9 March 2022 02:16 (two years ago) link
Plane carrying Donald Trump made emergency landing after engine failure following GOP donor speech in New Orleans
So close!
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 10 March 2022 01:04 (two years ago) link
I'm torn because it would have been so great but 'engine failure plane crash into the ocean' is probably the most conspiracy theory ready way possible.
― joygoat, Thursday, 10 March 2022 14:33 (two years ago) link
There are probably conspiracies circulating at this moment that he has just survived another failed assassination attempt
― I am using your worlds, Thursday, 10 March 2022 14:59 (two years ago) link
if there’s going to be a crash we really need to get more of those donors on that plane
― OG Bob Sacamano (will), Thursday, 10 March 2022 15:13 (two years ago) link
He'll join JFK Jr., Paul Wellstone and the Big Bopper in the fake plane death secure location
― Chappies banging dustbin lids together (President Keyes), Thursday, 10 March 2022 16:28 (two years ago) link
also Stevie Ray Vaughn--helluva band!
Wellstone’s death still hurts.
― Otto Insurance (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 10 March 2022 17:48 (two years ago) link
Buy Me Stuff?
NEW: Trump asking supporters to fund new plane after emergency landing https://t.co/ocbQz1tU8M pic.twitter.com/sZ5twiNwrJ— The Hill (@thehill) March 10, 2022
― Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 10 March 2022 19:01 (two years ago) link
one with an even more broken engine plz
― i read to 69 position (Neanderthal), Thursday, 10 March 2022 19:16 (two years ago) link
Amazing detail is that the plane in question wasn't even Trump's big ol' Trumpy jet. That one has apparently been unused and in disrepair in a hangar for years. This was just a loaner.
― peace, man, Thursday, 10 March 2022 19:23 (two years ago) link
you are not the owner of that jet, it is a loanerI got money stacks as tall as you, that's just my persona
― i read to 69 position (Neanderthal), Thursday, 10 March 2022 19:28 (two years ago) link
Be yourselfGive your free will a chanceYou've got to want to succeedOwner of a loaner jet
― celebrating ten years of constant posting (breastcrawl), Thursday, 10 March 2022 19:49 (two years ago) link
So the poor followers, struggling to make ends meet with inflation, they should buy the luxury jet - not the billionaire dude?
Grifters gonna grift
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 10 March 2022 19:54 (two years ago) link
when you put it that way, and knowing how many donations probably pour in everytime he puts out a request like that, it really highlights the levels of stockholm syndrome a significant percentage of this country has with this fucker
― Lavator Shemmelpennick, Thursday, 10 March 2022 21:31 (two years ago) link
lol classic Trump
OMG I’m dying!!! On a UFC podcast today, Trump is asked how he sees the war in Ukraine playing out and he launches into a riff about windmills! pic.twitter.com/S2nV6hLIbP— Ron Filipkowski (@RonFilipkowski) March 10, 2022
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 11 March 2022 00:12 (two years ago) link
Donald J. Quixote
― Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 11 March 2022 00:28 (two years ago) link
his bit on that pod about YMCA being the gay national anthem was just indistinguishable from
SCOOBY-DON !! pic.twitter.com/DESl7LDplH— James Austin Johnson (@shrimpJAJ) August 21, 2020
― symsymsym, Friday, 11 March 2022 00:45 (two years ago) link
When Trump dies they need to setup some pay 2 bucks public bathroom setup at his mausoleum so everyone in the world can get a chance to pi$$ on his grave.
It would be a proper tribute.
― earlnash, Friday, 11 March 2022 02:18 (two years ago) link
you can hear his dentures are loose in the podcast clip
― nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Friday, 11 March 2022 02:28 (two years ago) link
I guess he did a new interview where he claims Putin "changed" and that he was "surprised" he invaded, which is a rare instance of Asshole (or someone) realizing he stepped in it and is now doing damage control. Of course the quote I saw still called Putin smart, because Asshole has no discipline and can never back down entirely, but taken in tandem with other news stories making the rounds about the ineffectiveness of his political endorsements, maybe it's just a further sign that his inexplicable swagger is shifting to a stagger. Fingers crossed, and that he follows it up by dying.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 16 March 2022 14:21 (two years ago) link
He gave an unhinged rally in South Carolina over the weekend.
"We will pass critical reforms making every executive branch employee fireable by the president of the United States. The deep state must and will be brought to heel." -- Trump proposes a drastic expansion of presidential power pic.twitter.com/u09FV910iA— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) March 13, 2022
Trump calls on his supporters to "lay down their very lives" in the fight against critical race theory pic.twitter.com/ZtbOizUDTa— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) March 13, 2022
― Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 16 March 2022 14:35 (two years ago) link
Man with barely high school levels of comprehension reads words written by someone with barely high school level of intellect.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 16 March 2022 14:59 (two years ago) link
She was a patriot. She threw her body between a high school kid and a teacher's mention of redlining.
― Chappies banging dustbin lids together (President Keyes), Wednesday, 16 March 2022 15:29 (two years ago) link
The Apprenticification of the White House, ratings gonna be yuge,yuge
― Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 16 March 2022 16:14 (two years ago) link
He gave an unhinged rally in South Carolina over the weekend.🐦["We will pass critical reforms making every executive branch employee fireable by the president of the United States. The deep state must and will be brought to heel." -- Trump proposes a drastic expansion of presidential power pic.twitter.com/u09FV910iA🕸— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) March 13, 2022🕸]🐦🐦[Trump calls on his supporters to "lay down their very lives" in the fight against critical race theory pic.twitter.com/ZtbOizUDTa🕸— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) March 13, 2022🕸]🐦
― celebrating ten years of constant posting (breastcrawl), Wednesday, 16 March 2022 17:05 (two years ago) link
Pretty tepid crowd response for that "lay down your lives" line. Maybe CRT isn't quite the rallying cry he thinks it is.
― Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 16 March 2022 17:15 (two years ago) link
He might as well be rallying the troops against square televisions.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 16 March 2022 17:18 (two years ago) link
Re: the crowd signage - is 'Save America' the new MAGA?
― Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 16 March 2022 17:38 (two years ago) link
He already made America great again. Iirc "Save America" is his new members-only discount shopping venture.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 16 March 2022 17:45 (two years ago) link
SA, what a concise abbreviation, I wonder where we have seen those initials before. Hope it doesn't mean anything hella racist
― imagine flagons (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 16 March 2022 17:49 (two years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSVSxZmOW04
― Chappies banging dustbin lids together (President Keyes), Wednesday, 16 March 2022 17:55 (two years ago) link
Trump asked Kid Rock what we should do about North Korea. https://t.co/dvVSbkuPjS— Laura Bassett (@LEBassett) March 22, 2022
― Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 22 March 2022 23:17 (two years ago) link
― move over GAPDY, now there's BIG THIEF! (PBKR), Tuesday, 22 March 2022 23:30 (two years ago) link
Classic Trump, I mean.
he touched us all
― unknown or illegal user (doo rag), Wednesday, 23 March 2022 00:59 (two years ago) link
C'mon they all do it, we all remember when JFK sought Chubby Checker's advice on the Cuban Missile Crisis.
― Sam Weller, Wednesday, 23 March 2022 08:59 (two years ago) link
https://www.businessinsider.com/mo-brooks-says-trump-asked-him-to-immediately-remove-biden-from-office-and-illegally-hold-a-new-presidential-election-2022-3
In a statement on Wednesday, Trump said Brooks had gone "woke" by asking him to move beyond his repeatedly debunked claims about the 2020 election.
GOING WOKE IS THE NEW GOING ROGUE
― Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 23 March 2022 22:51 (two years ago) link
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-03-24/trump-sues-hillary-clinton-democrats-claiming-2016-conspiracy
― StanM, Thursday, 24 March 2022 19:56 (two years ago) link
this guy loves him some court
― Chappies banging dustbin lids together (President Keyes), Thursday, 24 March 2022 20:01 (two years ago) link
It's the only time people for real call him "sir"
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 24 March 2022 20:03 (two years ago) link
"How should I spend the cash I'm saving by not defending against that NYC lawsuit? I know!"
― the body of a spider... (scampering alpaca), Thursday, 24 March 2022 20:27 (two years ago) link
the URL for the firm representing him is legalbrains.com (Ticktin Law Group PA; website giving a 404 error right now)
― Je55e, Thursday, 24 March 2022 20:40 (two years ago) link
he should take them to Judge Judy
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 24 March 2022 21:06 (two years ago) link
I hope the law firm is grifting the fuck out of him.
― nickn, Thursday, 24 March 2022 21:15 (two years ago) link
I wonder if he pays attys. Assume yes, unlike building contractors/workers
― The Hon. Christian Sharia (R - MO) (Hunt3r), Friday, 25 March 2022 04:14 (two years ago) link
He actually just issued a press release about this “hole-in-one.” pic.twitter.com/ZZ3iHuQkwa— Ron Filipkowski 🇺🇦 (@RonFilipkowski) March 28, 2022
Wasn't sure to put this here or the things that look like an Onion article thread
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 29 March 2022 00:35 (two years ago) link
I can't tell if I love or hate that these statements just use Arial and Times New Roman. The best fonts.
― nashwan, Tuesday, 29 March 2022 09:21 (two years ago) link
this is the most ny timesy millennial tragedy of the day, not that i don't agree
― The Hon. Christian Sharia (R - MO) (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 29 March 2022 19:55 (two years ago) link
“I didn’t win the election,” he said.
The admission came in a video interview with a panel of historians convened by Julian Zelizer, a Princeton professor.
Trump also said “the election was rigged and lost”.
Baby steps
― Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 5 April 2022 17:16 (two years ago) link
is anything actually happening to keep him from winning in '24? it's starting to feel like an inevitability?
― StanM, Tuesday, 5 April 2022 20:14 (two years ago) link
Our best hope is a massive coronary or a debilitating stroke.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 5 April 2022 20:15 (two years ago) link
*scribbles in Death Note book*
― the body of a spider... (scampering alpaca), Tuesday, 5 April 2022 20:24 (two years ago) link
most people on this board seemed to think his re-election was inevitable too
obviously I'm guilty of being consistently wrong about these things like everyone else here but my feeling right now is that Trump wouldn't even win the primary. for one, so much of his appeal in 2016 was that he was different than everyone else, which obviously isn't true in an age where people the Bushes are a distant memory and Romney is a severe outlier in his own party. for two Trump himself seems more washed every day, dude can't draw a crowd anymore and obviously now he's banned from social media which is how he got here in the first place. of course I can envision a scenario where Elon Musk strongarms Twitter into letting him back on but I feel like Republican voters may want to rally around someone who is just as dishonest and shitty but younger & without the massive amounts of baggage Trump has
― frogbs, Tuesday, 5 April 2022 20:28 (two years ago) link
You'd think the guy who got impeached for trying to blackmail Zelenskyy wouldn't stand a chance these days, but I doubt the Democrats will be able to weaponize that
― Chappies banging dustbin lids together (President Keyes), Tuesday, 5 April 2022 20:32 (two years ago) link
Feels like DeSantis is trying to bully his way into the nomination, should be fun when the feathers start flying
― Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 5 April 2022 20:38 (two years ago) link
"""""""fun"""""""
― politics is about vibes and the vibes are off (stevie), Tuesday, 5 April 2022 20:41 (two years ago) link
https://www.whiskeyriff.com/2022/04/08/kid-rock-opens-new-tour-with-a-video-message-from-president-trump-lets-make-america-rock-again/
“Hello everyone. I love you all. I know you’re having a great time at the Kid Rock concert tonight. Quite frankly, he’s amazing.All of you in attendance are the true backbone of our great country. Hardworking, God-fearing, rock and roll patriots. Bob is truly one of the greatest entertainers of our time. Not the best golfer by any means, his golf came could use a little work, but a great, great entertainer, and that’s why you’re there.Let’s all continue to love one another, fight for our God-given freedoms, and most of all, let’s make America rock again!Have a wonderful time tonight. God bless you, and God bless America.”
All of you in attendance are the true backbone of our great country. Hardworking, God-fearing, rock and roll patriots.
Bob is truly one of the greatest entertainers of our time. Not the best golfer by any means, his golf came could use a little work, but a great, great entertainer, and that’s why you’re there.
Let’s all continue to love one another, fight for our God-given freedoms, and most of all, let’s make America rock again!
Have a wonderful time tonight. God bless you, and God bless America.”
RIP ROCK MUSIC
― Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 8 April 2022 23:06 (two years ago) link
Trump always has to get in that little dig to let whomever he's praising know that he's still the best.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 8 April 2022 23:09 (two years ago) link
Just thinking about the Disney parks boycott and how Trump must be kicking himself for not getting into the amusement park business.
― Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 9 April 2022 00:32 (two years ago) link
He could go shopping for one here: Abandoned Amusement/Fun Parks
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Saturday, 9 April 2022 00:37 (two years ago) link
pic.twitter.com/agpXCUGMCK— wyatt dunkin (@WyattDuncan) April 20, 2022
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 20 April 2022 21:43 (two years ago) link
Trump looks suspiciously thin in this Truth Social post pic.twitter.com/bc1GeGKXUP— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) May 1, 2022
Photoshop or Lipo?
― Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 1 May 2022 16:20 (one year ago) link
Chemo? We can hope
― joygoat, Sunday, 1 May 2022 16:40 (one year ago) link
He's being consumed by regret.
Hahahahahaha
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Sunday, 1 May 2022 17:24 (one year ago) link
Posture still weird af.
― Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 1 May 2022 17:48 (one year ago) link
he had his stomach glued to a golden ass
― | (Latham Green), Sunday, 1 May 2022 20:44 (one year ago) link
Trump: We’ve endorsed Dr.Oz. We’ve endorsed JP right? JD Mandell. He’s doing great pic.twitter.com/wkP3KetanL— Acyn (@Acyn) May 1, 2022
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Sunday, 1 May 2022 23:52 (one year ago) link
Everything he endorses turns to fake gold
― | (Latham Green), Wednesday, 4 May 2022 13:39 (one year ago) link
Trump said he took the Samsung with him to the White House in 2017, but “it was taken from me at some point while I was president. I do not have the Samsung in my possession and I do not know its current whereabouts.”
the pornhub phone, no doubt
― Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 11 May 2022 18:12 (one year ago) link
https://images.app.goo.gl/6SWD8kn5MTV6C6Ch7
― Chappies banging dustbin lids together (President Keyes), Wednesday, 11 May 2022 18:38 (one year ago) link
Truth Social Delivers...
This is normal… pic.twitter.com/BpU57pVzPj— The Republican Accountability Project (@AccountableGOP) May 18, 2022
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 18 May 2022 20:55 (one year ago) link
HILLARY QUEENTON
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 18 May 2022 20:56 (one year ago) link
My drag name
― DAMAGED by Black Flat (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 18 May 2022 22:17 (one year ago) link
If the Democrats are too incompetent not to incorporate a completely deranged, dementia laden sociopath Trump dancing next to the podium at the NRA convention days after 19 kids were murdered into many television ads, I give up. https://t.co/KjFyheMkcI— Spiro Agnew’s Ghost (@SpiroAgnewGhost) May 28, 2022
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 28 May 2022 03:07 (one year ago) link
Leaning towards dud
― lemmy incaution (emsworth), Saturday, 28 May 2022 03:23 (one year ago) link
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Saturday, 28 May 2022 03:25 (one year ago) link
you honestly cannot even imagine just how bad and tacky this https://t.co/jxUSbfioxI— Matt Binder (@MattBinder) May 28, 2022
Jesus. I’m expecting to Kirk Hammett to start riffing
― rare lipstick or mohawks that somehow make them more valuable (President Keyes), Saturday, 28 May 2022 19:01 (one year ago) link
...and then for DT to start waxing rhapsodic about taco bowls.
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 28 May 2022 19:09 (one year ago) link
Cue Angus Young
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Saturday, 28 May 2022 19:33 (one year ago) link
Jesus. I’m expecting to Kirk Hammett to start riffingHe did his little dance at the end
― Yul Brynner film festival on Channel 48... (sic), Saturday, 28 May 2022 20:24 (one year ago) link
The hogs just go wild when he does that little dance.
― papal hotwife (milo z), Saturday, 28 May 2022 21:11 (one year ago) link
Waiting for the Vic Berger remix where the tolling bells are placed with an air horn.
― THE VEIVET UIUERABOUIU (Boring, Maryland), Saturday, 28 May 2022 23:07 (one year ago) link
Despite this being word salad, the meaning is clear. He's advocating for national don't say gay laws, and non-recognition of trans identities legally. The WH didn't do it in NOV-DEC 2018, but they will this time. Transphobia is now a central platform to the GOP, unlike 2016-2020. https://t.co/yj0EkPvsUc— Brynn Tannehill (@BrynnTannehill) May 29, 2022
'teach transgender'
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 29 May 2022 01:11 (one year ago) link
"ok kids, homework tonight is go home and choose some clothes of the opposite gender, come in tomorrow wearing them, and we'll judge who's best..
― Mark G, Sunday, 29 May 2022 13:34 (one year ago) link
. <- this spot reserved for a bad joke about Christians and cross dressing
― StanM, Sunday, 29 May 2022 13:38 (one year ago) link
He's a bandit and a heart stressor Oh, but Jesus was a cross dresser
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Sunday, 29 May 2022 14:49 (one year ago) link
in case you were wondering, no this isn't real life.
The family of Isaac Hayes has spoken out against former president Donald Trump walking off and dancing to one of the late soul music pioneer’s songs after he read the names of murdered children at the NRA's convention.https://t.co/JzBDluxzdP— The Intellectualist (@highbrow_nobrow) May 30, 2022
― Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Monday, 30 May 2022 16:25 (one year ago) link
He’s a complicated man
― Eggs Benedick (Eric H.), Monday, 30 May 2022 16:43 (one year ago) link
You shut your mouth!
― Halfway there but for you, Monday, 30 May 2022 16:44 (one year ago) link
was it chocolate salty balls?
― StanM, Monday, 30 May 2022 18:08 (one year ago) link
Isaac Hayes did not write Chocolate Salty Balls.
― Yul Brynner film festival on Channel 48... (sic), Monday, 30 May 2022 19:01 (one year ago) link
But it is *his*
― Mark G, Tuesday, 31 May 2022 09:14 (one year ago) link
he does have custody of the balls
― Gymnopédie Pablo (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 31 May 2022 13:58 (one year ago) link
Isn’t Hayes dead? His balls could be anywhere.
― THE VEIVET UIUERABOUIU (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 31 May 2022 21:34 (one year ago) link
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2022/06/13/how-will-trumps-primary-messages-affect-the-midterms/amp
― Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 9 June 2022 11:13 (one year ago) link
Email from Trump sent three minutes ago. pic.twitter.com/6RNIoSHmNT— Josh Marshall (@joshtpm) June 10, 2022
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 10 June 2022 03:15 (one year ago) link
lol, it turned out to be a link to a secret video
New email out from Trump 4 minutes ago pic.twitter.com/syZtruYELd— Josh Marshall (@joshtpm) June 10, 2022
― Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Friday, 10 June 2022 03:22 (one year ago) link
it is really amazing that there are so many people out there that would, on this night of all nights, gladly pay $50 to "unlock" a SECRET VIDEO"! that kind of grift is actually very impressive, best in class
― Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Friday, 10 June 2022 03:23 (one year ago) link
It's like Cameo for useless shitbirds
― Gymnopédie Pablo (Neanderthal), Friday, 10 June 2022 03:27 (one year ago) link
come on, admit it : you want to know what's on the $50 secret trump video
― Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Friday, 10 June 2022 03:34 (one year ago) link
Pee tape?
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 10 June 2022 03:42 (one year ago) link
no, the pee tape grift will be that we have to pay $50 to avoid seeing it
― Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Friday, 10 June 2022 03:45 (one year ago) link
Trump now prepared to throw Ivanka under the bus.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 10 June 2022 14:38 (one year ago) link
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FU3AxKUXoAQjAsg?format=jpg&name=small
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 10 June 2022 14:44 (one year ago) link
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FU3AxKUXEAEGzC9?format=jpg&name=small
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 10 June 2022 14:45 (one year ago) link
Jared of the Punchable Face
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 10 June 2022 14:45 (one year ago) link
Is this the DALLE MINI thread?
― Evan, Friday, 10 June 2022 14:52 (one year ago) link
Yeah, I said the conspiracists are going to have a field day with the audio sync issues from that first Bill Barr clip, but ol' Vanky just looks fully cgi...
― m0stly clean (Slowsquatch), Friday, 10 June 2022 15:09 (one year ago) link
"Jared Kushner lost in DUNE upset" [RUN]
― Evan, Friday, 10 June 2022 15:16 (one year ago) link
they finally smelled each others' farts
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 10 June 2022 16:39 (one year ago) link
half-digested babies
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 10 June 2022 17:01 (one year ago) link
Someone should do one of those fake tweets where Trump goes after one of his grandkids: "Arabella is a well-known coward--I call her 'Yella Bella'--and they say that none of the other kids at day care will play with her."
― clemenza, Saturday, 11 June 2022 00:13 (one year ago) link
this is not a very good thread, who gives a shit about these jokes and dunks
― Dan S, Saturday, 11 June 2022 00:25 (one year ago) link
Is this what you do? Monitor the Donald Trump threads 24/7, and scold anyone who posts about Donald Trump on them? Jesus, man, this is more tiresome than anything you complain about.
― clemenza, Saturday, 11 June 2022 00:29 (one year ago) link
"I don't care about these jokes and dunks--I'll just make sure I never miss one."
― clemenza, Saturday, 11 June 2022 00:30 (one year ago) link
I'm not monitoring threads! just came upon this
but this is the day after the fairly consequential first televised congressional hearing about Jan 6th and Trump's treachery and nobody seems to care, at all
― Dan S, Saturday, 11 June 2022 00:36 (one year ago) link
Just you Dan--you're the only one who cares, and you deserve a round of applause.
― clemenza, Saturday, 11 June 2022 00:40 (one year ago) link
I'm sorry I offended you clemenza, I like you and repect you.
― Dan S, Saturday, 11 June 2022 00:43 (one year ago) link
*respect
― Dan S, Saturday, 11 June 2022 00:44 (one year ago) link
No need to apologize, I just don't get this obsession you have with trying to preempt any posting about Trump--or at least posting from me--that isn't sufficiently grave or angry or I don't what. I say some film reminds me about something about Trump and, no, can't do that; an innocuous joke, no, not that either. And again, if the mere mention of Trump is so mortally upsetting to you, the first course of action--as others besides me have suggested--is not to open up Trump-related threads.
― clemenza, Saturday, 11 June 2022 00:50 (one year ago) link
it's my own issue and I won't open up a Trump thread again, but I think he is a monster and it’s hard for me to understand how any of you can find him funny or ironic or laughable in any way
― Dan S, Saturday, 11 June 2022 01:19 (one year ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G629a_3MkkI
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 11 June 2022 01:26 (one year ago) link
(xpost) You'll never read this, because I know you're swearing off Trump threads forever, but--whether laughing at him (hopefully) or with him (ugh), that "any of you" accounts for what, 90% of anyone who knows who he is?
― clemenza, Saturday, 11 June 2022 02:07 (one year ago) link
Donald Trump has become more popular since the January 6 Capitol attack
https://edition.cnn.com/2022/06/11/politics/donald-trump-january-6-democrats-moderate/index.html
the inevitability of it all... sigh
― StanM, Sunday, 12 June 2022 00:56 (one year ago) link
the election's not for two years, hell, an asteroid might hit by then.
― Gymnopédie Pablo (Neanderthal), Sunday, 12 June 2022 00:58 (one year ago) link
can also guarantee when gas prices finally alleviate (even if a year from now) that will change
― Gymnopédie Pablo (Neanderthal), Sunday, 12 June 2022 00:59 (one year ago) link
Even during his presidency the asshole’s popularity would get a temporary bump when he made fewer statements.
― assert (matttkkkk), Sunday, 12 June 2022 06:35 (one year ago) link
will he be as popular as the committee hearings wear on is, I guess, the question
― politics is about vibes and the vibes are off (stevie), Sunday, 12 June 2022 12:55 (one year ago) link
― Dan S
The fuck are you talking about?
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 12 June 2022 13:09 (one year ago) link
Which means it's also the sixth anniversary of this sociopathic "appreciate the congrats" tweet from the man who would go on to become president https://t.co/5QRtYOKcxC pic.twitter.com/GGtkVQsTeo— Parker Molloy (@ParkerMolloy) June 12, 2022
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 12 June 2022 15:08 (one year ago) link
"Here, have some swag..."
Meadows apparently wanted to send Georgia officials who were being pressured to overturn the election "a shitload of POTUS stuff," including coins and hats pic.twitter.com/efp6CN87ow— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) June 21, 2022
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 21 June 2022 19:51 (one year ago) link
Tackiness is the least of their faults but it’s still accurate to describe them as “ludicrously tacky”
― Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 21 June 2022 19:53 (one year ago) link
No Trump Steaks? Cheapskates.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 21 June 2022 20:07 (one year ago) link
Apparently he none too pleased with Kevin McCarthy right now, since there's nobody there to 'defend' him
― Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 21 June 2022 20:26 (one year ago) link
He may actually think this is a trial of some sort. Maybe we can bluff him into jail?
― Antifa Sandwich Artist (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 21 June 2022 22:19 (one year ago) link
SCOOP: The House select committee investigating Jan. 6 sent a subpoena last week to ALEX HOLDER, a documentary filmmaker who was granted extensive access to President DONALD TRUMP and his inner circle, and who shot interviews with the then-president both before and after Jan. 6. The existence of this footage is previously unreported.A source familiar with the project told Playbook on Monday night that Holder began filming on the campaign trail in September 2020 for a project on Trump’s reelection campaign. Over the course of several months, Holder had substantial access to Trump, Trump’s adult children and VP MIKE PENCE, both in the White House and on the campaign trail.According to the subpoena, which was obtained exclusively by Playbook, the committee wants three main things from Holder:(1) Raw footage from Jan. 6.(2) Raw footage of interviews from September 2020 to present with Trump, Pence, DONALD TRUMP JR., IVANKA TRUMP, ERIC TRUMP and JARED KUSHNER.(3) Raw footage “pertaining to discussions of election fraud or election integrity surrounding the November 2020 presidential election.”Holder is expected to fully cooperate with the committee in an interview scheduled for Thursday. Read the full subpoenaTODAY’S JAN. 6 HEARING — At 1 p.m., the committee will gavel in for a hearing that centers on the pressure campaign Trump and his allies mounted to get state officials to overturn the 2020 election, including attempts to advance slates of “alternate electors” to flip the results in Trump’s favor.As our Nicholas Wu and Kyle Cheney report this morning, that plan was concocted even before the election was actually called.
A source familiar with the project told Playbook on Monday night that Holder began filming on the campaign trail in September 2020 for a project on Trump’s reelection campaign. Over the course of several months, Holder had substantial access to Trump, Trump’s adult children and VP MIKE PENCE, both in the White House and on the campaign trail.
According to the subpoena, which was obtained exclusively by Playbook, the committee wants three main things from Holder:
(1) Raw footage from Jan. 6.
(2) Raw footage of interviews from September 2020 to present with Trump, Pence, DONALD TRUMP JR., IVANKA TRUMP, ERIC TRUMP and JARED KUSHNER.
(3) Raw footage “pertaining to discussions of election fraud or election integrity surrounding the November 2020 presidential election.”
Holder is expected to fully cooperate with the committee in an interview scheduled for Thursday. Read the full subpoena
TODAY’S JAN. 6 HEARING — At 1 p.m., the committee will gavel in for a hearing that centers on the pressure campaign Trump and his allies mounted to get state officials to overturn the 2020 election, including attempts to advance slates of “alternate electors” to flip the results in Trump’s favor.
As our Nicholas Wu and Kyle Cheney report this morning, that plan was concocted even before the election was actually called.
― dow, Tuesday, 21 June 2022 22:23 (one year ago) link
Really, I had no idea, before watching today's hearings, just how many state officials across the country, def including Black poll workers in Atlanta, but also white Reaganites etc., got the zoom lens and more from T. and his minions and local talent.
― dow, Tuesday, 21 June 2022 22:26 (one year ago) link
Half afraid the "raw footage" is Trump eating Rudy's ass
― Slowzy LOLtidore (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 21 June 2022 22:56 (one year ago) link
Xpost the story about civilians trying to break into election officials' homes trying to make citizens' arrests was pretty chilling.
― Slowzy LOLtidore (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 21 June 2022 22:57 (one year ago) link
classic or nname=playbook&nid=0000014f-1646-d88f-a1cf-5f46b7bd0000&nrid=00000172-4d9a-d3ba-a9f3-6f9e04a20000&nlid=630318
― Vance Vance Devolution (sic), Wednesday, 22 June 2022 02:14 (one year ago) link
lol wasn't that first big Trump book (Fire and Fury) written by some dude who figured out you could get unlimited access just by hanging around and sucking up a lot
― frogbs, Wednesday, 22 June 2022 02:19 (one year ago) link
Sounds right, but don't get it as response to my comment.
― dow, Wednesday, 22 June 2022 03:14 (one year ago) link
That music...
CNN just played the first footage from that Trump documentary that has come up at the January 6 hearings pic.twitter.com/PLhzoR4TGt— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) June 23, 2022
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 23 June 2022 17:32 (one year ago) link
― dow, Tuesday, June 21, 2022 10:14 PM (two days ago) bookmarkflaglink
maybe I misunderstood what you were trying to say, my point is there's no real secret to anything these guys do, they'll tell anyone proudly
― frogbs, Thursday, 23 June 2022 17:36 (one year ago) link
The Trumps did not have editorial control. Full stop. pic.twitter.com/gMWnGY83Dz— Alex Holder (@alexjholder) June 23, 2022
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 23 June 2022 18:51 (one year ago) link
it puts the table back and puts the water on the table without the thing on top of it
or else it gets the hose again
― Nutellanor Roosevelt (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 23 June 2022 21:33 (one year ago) link
it's the little things, it really is
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 23 June 2022 21:44 (one year ago) link
― Build My Gallows Hi Hi Hi (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 28 June 2022 18:20 (one year ago) link
I don't know, based on this new testimony sounds like pretty classic Trump.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 28 June 2022 18:29 (one year ago) link
the president was so angry he didn’t want his dino nugs— kilgore trout, death to putiner (@KT_So_It_Goes) June 28, 2022
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 28 June 2022 18:36 (one year ago) link
Total and complete dud.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 28 June 2022 19:36 (one year ago) link
he is a very strong and confident man. you can tell by the courage of those around him to do the right thing
― Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 28 June 2022 19:37 (one year ago) link
He would never fall off a bike
― rare lipstick or mohawks that somehow make them more valuable (President Keyes), Tuesday, 28 June 2022 19:41 (one year ago) link
The minibar Diet Coke
chekhov's ketchup pic.twitter.com/jctMvHKI8j— kilgore trout, death to putiner (@KT_So_It_Goes) June 28, 2022
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 28 June 2022 19:53 (one year ago) link
not a parody, also maybe one of the funniest tweets I've ever seen
The January 6th committee should cancel its upcoming hearings out of respect for President Trump while he is in mourning for the loss of a great friend, Shinzo Abe.— Brigitte Gabriel (@ACTBrigitte) July 8, 2022
― frogbs, Friday, 8 July 2022 20:49 (one year ago) link
he's emotionally eating wasabi peas
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 8 July 2022 20:53 (one year ago) link
Another: pic.twitter.com/9v1R6RwT7w— Scott Lincicome (@scottlincicome) July 8, 2022
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 8 July 2022 20:54 (one year ago) link
When he was a small child, Mr. Trump said, he went with his family to the Hamptons. While there, he acted at Gosman’s (Montauk’s best-known seafood spot) in a way that “exceeded the limits” of everyone’s patience. His mother, he said, took him to the bathroom and showed him “what Eastern European discipline was really all about.”When it was over, he said, she told him, “And if you cry, we’re going to come back in here and do this again.”The younger Mr. Trump — whose fiancée, the former Fox News personality Kimberly Guilfoyle, sat across the aisle from him — told another story about his sister Ivanka destroying a very pricey chandelier while playing in the house with a beach ball. “Ivanka managed to quickly convince my mother that it was me,” he said.That time, the “remedy,” as he put it, was a “wooden spoon,” and what made his mother even more irate as she spanked him was his fervent denial of having played any role in the misbehavior. “Not only had I broken the chandelier, but now I was also lying to her,” he said.But by the time she realized he was telling the truth, Mr. Trump said, she was “too tired to deal with Ivanka.”
When it was over, he said, she told him, “And if you cry, we’re going to come back in here and do this again.”
The younger Mr. Trump — whose fiancée, the former Fox News personality Kimberly Guilfoyle, sat across the aisle from him — told another story about his sister Ivanka destroying a very pricey chandelier while playing in the house with a beach ball. “Ivanka managed to quickly convince my mother that it was me,” he said.
That time, the “remedy,” as he put it, was a “wooden spoon,” and what made his mother even more irate as she spanked him was his fervent denial of having played any role in the misbehavior. “Not only had I broken the chandelier, but now I was also lying to her,” he said.
But by the time she realized he was telling the truth, Mr. Trump said, she was “too tired to deal with Ivanka.”
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 21 July 2022 17:36 (one year ago) link
...and if they really got out of line, they'd get spanked with rolled-up magazines with father on the cover!
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 21 July 2022 17:48 (one year ago) link
(CNN) - Former first lady Melania Trump said in a new interview with Fox that she was "unaware" of the ongoing riot on January 6, 2021, because she was too busy photographing a rug in the White House. https://t.co/9xFG7WfB82— Sarah Boxer (@Sarah_Boxer) July 21, 2022
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 22 July 2022 01:26 (one year ago) link
i believe her
― terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Friday, 22 July 2022 01:31 (one year ago) link
It really tied the room together
― F'kin Magnetometers, how do they work? (President Keyes), Friday, 22 July 2022 02:01 (one year ago) link
Then she was going to Hang the drapes! Hang the drapes!
― nickn, Friday, 22 July 2022 16:51 (one year ago) link
she couldn’t see the riot for the rug, as the saying goes
― big movers, hot steppers + long shaker intros (breastcrawl), Friday, 22 July 2022 18:41 (one year ago) link
It takes a maga riot to get me to be best, right now
― F'kin Magnetometers, how do they work? (President Keyes), Friday, 22 July 2022 19:28 (one year ago) link
I don't think I've ever felt deeper passive aggression vibes from anyone than from Melania Trump
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 22 July 2022 20:49 (one year ago) link
cannot imagine the fathomless well of rage she would have accumulated, married to Asshole
― assert (matttkkkk), Friday, 22 July 2022 21:07 (one year ago) link
Oh, I'm not expressing a scintilla of sympathy for her, fuck her
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 22 July 2022 21:18 (one year ago) link
she seems vapid, incurious and self-absorbed, hates her husband, likes being rich, and that's pretty much it. I've never found anything more likeable about her than her husband except that it's not possible to be as unlikeable as her husband.
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 22 July 2022 21:19 (one year ago) link
I mean she doesn't seem to have the desire to inflict horrible things on others so I guess that's a plus
― frogbs, Friday, 22 July 2022 21:26 (one year ago) link
Apparently by many accounts she is a horrible person and perfectly matched to her (check) mate.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 22 July 2022 21:29 (one year ago) link
She enabled him his entire presidency. Nothing stops her from leaving other than whatever less than favorable prenup she probably has that would require downgrading her lifestyle. Is there any evidence of her being a kind or caring person in any sense? How do we know she's not cruel? She kind of looks cruel.
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 22 July 2022 21:31 (one year ago) link
Focking Christmas
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 22 July 2022 21:34 (one year ago) link
Is there any evidence of her being a kind or caring person in any sense?
Locking away her son in some tower?
https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/disney/images/4/4f/Mother_Knows_Best.png/revision/latest?cb=20150214165256
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 22 July 2022 21:48 (one year ago) link
Goddamit.
she's married to Trump.she knows who he is.she stayed married to him.she's bad.
― We were clothed, except for Caan, who was naked. Don't know why. (Neanderthal), Friday, 22 July 2022 21:49 (one year ago) link
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-allies-secret-plan-fire-thousands-govt-workers-2024-axios-2022-7?r=US&IR=T
― StanM, Friday, 22 July 2022 21:56 (one year ago) link
I legit wonder if the rose garden has been fixed from the scorched earth abomination she created there.
― BlackIronPrison, Friday, 22 July 2022 21:56 (one year ago) link
https://64.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mell4htB6U1rcb0d2o1_640.jpg
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 22 July 2022 21:57 (one year ago) link
Basically Carmela Soprano's storyline over seven seasons.
― clemenza, Saturday, 23 July 2022 02:29 (one year ago) link
― We were clothed, except for Caan, who was naked. Don't know why. (Neanderthal), Saturday, 23 July 2022 02:35 (one year ago) link
Trump has kept his audience in Arizona waiting for nearly two hours now since Kari Lake wrapped up her warmup speech. He was supposed to start more than a half hour ago. Gonna be a late night.— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) July 23, 2022
DT pulling an Axl.
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 23 July 2022 02:38 (one year ago) link
Chinese Fascism
― nickn, Saturday, 23 July 2022 02:51 (one year ago) link
Diet Coke Tongue
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 23 July 2022 02:53 (one year ago) link
Got em in a coma
― We were clothed, except for Caan, who was naked. Don't know why. (Neanderthal), Saturday, 23 July 2022 05:00 (one year ago) link
Nobody puts baby in a coma.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 23 July 2022 14:25 (one year ago) link
Trump was booed at his Arizona rally for his endorsement of a congressional candidate. He seemed taken aback, and asked the crowd, "But you like me, right?"
Really, that's Trump in a nutshell. It would be pathetic if he weren't such an asshole.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Saturday, 23 July 2022 23:32 (one year ago) link
He also....prematured onstage?
pic.twitter.com/W1wOibrX5C— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) July 23, 2022
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 24 July 2022 00:24 (one year ago) link
Levez vos skinny fists comme antennas to heaven
― Antifa Sandwich Artist (Boring, Maryland), Sunday, 24 July 2022 00:31 (one year ago) link
nobody, not even the rain, has such small hands
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Sunday, 24 July 2022 00:33 (one year ago) link
god what a pathetic fuck
― assert (matttkkkk), Sunday, 24 July 2022 01:58 (one year ago) link
I'll refrain from posting the Rupar vids, but today at the turning point conference, both DJTJ and DT brought up the ramp thing at length.
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 24 July 2022 02:49 (one year ago) link
And Matt Gaetz went off on a tear about "women who look like thumbs" shouldn't worry about abortion, because no one wants to impregnate them.
Every once in a while, you meet someone who would have benefited from getting his ass kicked sometime in adolescence.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Sunday, 24 July 2022 02:58 (one year ago) link
After Trump endorsed his opponent at his latest Arizona rally, Republican candidate Ron Watkins, whose website platformed Q, revealed he declined Trump’s endorsement requirements:1. Invest a million dollars into the campaign.2. Hire a “specific person” at $10K/mo pic.twitter.com/Kk6CHMIcek— PatriotTakes 🇺🇸 (@patriottakes) July 24, 2022
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 25 July 2022 03:05 (one year ago) link
classic Trump
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 25 July 2022 03:10 (one year ago) link
grift recognize grift
― nickn, Monday, 25 July 2022 05:38 (one year ago) link
And Matt Gaetz went off on a tear about "women who look like thumbs" shouldn't worry about abortion, because no one wants to impregnate them.Every once in a while, you meet someone who would have benefited from getting his ass kicked sometime in adolescence.
― link.exposing.politically (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 25 July 2022 06:04 (one year ago) link
Donald Trump is basically the quiet part loud personified.
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Monday, 25 July 2022 16:53 (one year ago) link
"Remember I said we're going to save Christmas, Merry Christmas, we saved Merry Christmas didn't we, the department store... said don't buy if they don't have... Merry Christmas, they were... told it's not good...they want to get rid of Christopher Columbus but more importantly Merry Christmas but they say Merry Christmas again don't they, right? Whole different thing..."
― Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Monday, 25 July 2022 18:46 (one year ago) link
Of course it's real.
― peace, man, Monday, 25 July 2022 18:52 (one year ago) link
"whole different thing...we don't say merry christmas columbus...i've never said that, but the MEDIA want you to know i said that folks...christmas columbus...they wanted me to say it...never did never will again.."
― nashwan, Monday, 25 July 2022 19:36 (one year ago) link
Merry Focking Christmas
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 25 July 2022 19:47 (one year ago) link
Trump's former campaign manager said the ex-president is now surrounded by people trying to take advantage of him
https://www.businessinsider.com/trumps-people-trying-take-advantage-of-him-2022-7
Break out the world's smallest violin.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 28 July 2022 18:17 (one year ago) link
in a parallel universe, very much like our own but with small differences, the terribleness of donald trump is entirely contained within QVC, where he is the star and rips people off there, in QVC, just in QVC
― Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Thursday, 28 July 2022 18:19 (one year ago) link
I mean that's kind of what it felt like until he ran for president? Asshole has show about being asshole, is contained to show about being an asshole and some gaudy properties/brands.
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 28 July 2022 18:29 (one year ago) link
A history of breaking everything he touched.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 28 July 2022 18:34 (one year ago) link
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/07/28/15/60799705-11058449-image-a-2_1659019303480.jpg
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 28 July 2022 22:26 (one year ago) link
That can't be real.
He looks like the Tall Man from Phantasm.
― doomposting is the new composting (PBKR), Thursday, 28 July 2022 22:33 (one year ago) link
or David Lo Pan
― peace, man, Thursday, 28 July 2022 23:49 (one year ago) link
https://decider.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/old-people-poltergeist-ii.gif
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 28 July 2022 23:50 (one year ago) link
they're real.. unless his automaton escaped Disneyland:
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/07/28/22/60814071-11059559-image-a-6_1659044927029.jpg
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 28 July 2022 23:53 (one year ago) link
"You were not put upon this world to "get it", Mr. Biden!"
― peace, man, Thursday, 28 July 2022 23:53 (one year ago) link
So he’s stopped spray-painting himself?
― but also fuck you (unperson), Friday, 29 July 2022 00:20 (one year ago) link
Or doesn't have a White House level makeup team.
― nickn, Friday, 29 July 2022 00:51 (one year ago) link
"You were right about me"
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 29 July 2022 01:18 (one year ago) link
Oh come on pic.twitter.com/wYwbBVt9mW— Molly Jong-Fast (@MollyJongFast) July 29, 2022
This is next level bleak pic.twitter.com/VzBkpul3Sm— Molly Jong-Fast (@MollyJongFast) July 29, 2022
Research NJ cemetery law, burying a body on your land protects it from all sorts of things. Including seizure and paying taxes— johnnybonesjones™️ (@jjones4236) July 29, 2022
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 30 July 2022 01:35 (one year ago) link
Trump looks like Jerry Jones if Jerry hadn't been getting facelifts every six months for two decades.
― papal hotwife (milo z), Saturday, 30 July 2022 02:09 (one year ago) link
God, that photo is disturbing.
― jmm, Saturday, 30 July 2022 02:17 (one year ago) link
he still has a way to go before he reaches end-stage al davis
― mookieproof, Saturday, 30 July 2022 02:39 (one year ago) link
"Y’know, the thing about a shark, he’s got lifeless eyes, black eyes, like a doll’s eyes."
― earlnash, Saturday, 30 July 2022 13:36 (one year ago) link
As a tax researcher, I was skeptical of rumors Trump buried his ex-wife in that sad little plot of dirt on his Bedminster, NJ golf course just for tax breaks. So I checked the NJ tax code & folks...it's a trifecta of tax avoidance. Property, income & sales tax, all eliminated. pic.twitter.com/VDZBlDyuhQ— Brooke Harrington (@EBHarrington) July 31, 2022
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 31 July 2022 17:56 (one year ago) link
There are many reasons I love living in NJ, but this place is crooked as fuck in a whole lot of ways, large and small. If you read the laws and tax codes carefully enough, you can do just about anything you want here.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Sunday, 31 July 2022 18:15 (one year ago) link
Unfortunately it all involves burying someone
― Evan, Monday, 1 August 2022 02:19 (one year ago) link
I'm reading a history of the USFL by Jeff Pearlman; he includes this letter at the front of the book.
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/letter_copy.jpg?w=928
― clemenza, Monday, 1 August 2022 02:32 (one year ago) link
This man was once the President of the United States. I’m not kidding. Seriously - for like four years. I shit you not. pic.twitter.com/FjHgkkM0vy— Ed Solomon (@ed_solomon) July 31, 2022
― frogbs, Monday, 1 August 2022 04:25 (one year ago) link
and he will be again, too. Unless (what, though?)
― StanM, Monday, 1 August 2022 05:45 (one year ago) link
Is that from “Truth”? Is the UI for Truth exactly the same as Twitter? please, tell me the truth
― Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Monday, 1 August 2022 14:20 (one year ago) link
Only 8.22k Retruths?
― F'kin Magnetometers, how do they work? (President Keyes), Monday, 1 August 2022 15:57 (one year ago) link
I wonder why someone on Truth Central would Retruth a Trump Truth. Is there anyone on there who doesn't follow Trump?
― F'kin Magnetometers, how do they work? (President Keyes), Monday, 1 August 2022 15:59 (one year ago) link
Retruth of the Cruel.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 1 August 2022 16:31 (one year ago) link
After seeing all the photos of them together this weekend this seems very possible to me https://t.co/hZP4GSrc5V— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) August 1, 2022
<Tik Tok 'Oh no' meme>
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 1 August 2022 18:53 (one year ago) link
this fucker is somehow going to outlive Kissinger.
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 1 August 2022 18:57 (one year ago) link
Trump is 76; Kissinger is 99. The odds are in his favor, yes.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Monday, 1 August 2022 19:24 (one year ago) link
Having the third wife standing on the first wife’s grave and smiling is brazy! pic.twitter.com/VTVBwhkd4h— church girl (@KiaSpeaks) August 1, 2022
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 1 August 2022 19:46 (one year ago) link
(That's Photoshopped, but I bet we get a real one when her husband dies)
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 1 August 2022 19:47 (one year ago) link
xp - well, yeah, I meant he'll stick around tormenting us with his presence longer than even Kissinger.
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 1 August 2022 19:49 (one year ago) link
he'll stick around tormenting us with his presence Supreme Court longer than even Kissinger.
― DJI, Monday, 1 August 2022 19:53 (one year ago) link
I bet we get a real one when her husband die
...and on OnlyFans, one of her honoring a favorite activity by peeing on it.
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 1 August 2022 23:57 (one year ago) link
big news, folks -- Trump says he actually completed the wall after all. Our border problems are solved! pic.twitter.com/fFh9ZdIHS0— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) August 6, 2022
Didn't just complete the wall, he actually added even more wall.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 6 August 2022 14:54 (one year ago) link
He's got new hair too.
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 6 August 2022 15:18 (one year ago) link
Amber waves of gain.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 6 August 2022 15:25 (one year ago) link
we need to stop the radical left indoctrination of our children pic.twitter.com/ksfaBHN1kN— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) August 5, 2022
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 6 August 2022 15:40 (one year ago) link
https://www.axios.com/2022/08/08/trump-toilet-photos-maggie-haberman
― lord of the rongs (anagram), Monday, 8 August 2022 12:56 (one year ago) link
Cursed URL
― jaymc, Monday, 8 August 2022 13:21 (one year ago) link
so fresh, so clean
― big movers, hot steppers + long shaker intros (breastcrawl), Monday, 8 August 2022 13:22 (one year ago) link
Maggie’s desire for a fresh scoop at any cost has gone too far this time
― Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Monday, 8 August 2022 14:32 (one year ago) link
Fresh scoop...
― m0stly clean (Slowsquatch), Monday, 8 August 2022 14:49 (one year ago) link
OK, I'll do it...
Maggie’s desire for a fresh poop at any cost has gone too far this time
― Bait Kush (Eric H.), Monday, 8 August 2022 16:45 (one year ago) link
:-o
― Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Monday, 8 August 2022 16:57 (one year ago) link
Trump, on his return to Washington, hatched a plan for the “biggest, grandest military parade ever for the Fourth of July”. But the plans went down badly with Trump’s cabinet staff.
“I’d rather swallow acid,” the defense secretary and former Marine Corps general, James Mattis, is reported to have said...
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/aug/08/trump-pentagon-generals-nazis-second-world-war
― Andy the Grasshopper, Monday, 8 August 2022 17:35 (one year ago) link
Kelly got in a decent burn too
“Why can’t you be like the German generals?” Donald Trump asked John Kelly, who was his White House chief of staff at the time, according to a new book. It depicts Trump as deeply frustrated by top military officials, whom he saw as insufficiently loyal. https://t.co/WunFHIU5bZ pic.twitter.com/ZvnqqJDw5B— The New York Times (@nytimes) August 8, 2022
― Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Monday, 8 August 2022 17:37 (one year ago) link
I'm finding this hard to believe, since the main thing we know about Hitler's generals is that they were big time losers.
― F'kin Magnetometers, how do they work? (President Keyes), Monday, 8 August 2022 18:11 (one year ago) link
Who hated Hitler.
― Buckfast At Tiffany's (Tom D.), Monday, 8 August 2022 18:17 (one year ago) link
perhaps he just wanted Kelly to wear a monocle and carry a riding crop
― Andy the Grasshopper, Monday, 8 August 2022 20:18 (one year ago) link
Trying to imagine any other major politician in American history getting away with complete disdain for the troops.
― papal hotwife (milo z), Monday, 8 August 2022 22:29 (one year ago) link
Holy shit — the FBI went to Mar-A-Lago with a search warrant! This image is real; Trump posted it on Truth Social.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FZrHfURWYAE1Xbz.jpg
― but also fuck you (unperson), Monday, 8 August 2022 23:00 (one year ago) link
I hope they checked the toilets.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Monday, 8 August 2022 23:13 (one year ago) link
Whoa!!! Any idea what they were looking for??
― frogbs, Monday, 8 August 2022 23:15 (one year ago) link
Such an assault could only take place in broken, Third-World Countries.
Harsh assessment of Florida, but I get it
― Andy the Grasshopper, Monday, 8 August 2022 23:17 (one year ago) link
The difference between 'this and Watergate' would be the search warrant
― Andy the Grasshopper, Monday, 8 August 2022 23:18 (one year ago) link
lol, seriously.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 8 August 2022 23:19 (one year ago) link
Fed's Raided Mar-A-Lago. Oh shit.... Shit's poppin off.— ICE T (@FINALLEVEL) August 8, 2022
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 8 August 2022 23:34 (one year ago) link
"And now we're joined by Ice T for his analysis of this breaking story..."
Reminds me of Chapelle's "Fuck Ja Rule!" bit
― Andy the Grasshopper, Monday, 8 August 2022 23:38 (one year ago) link
nobody seems to know shit
The raid began early Monday morning and law enforcement personnel appeared to be focused on the area of the club where Trump's offices and personal quarters are, according to a person familiar with the matter.
The Justice Department declined to comment, as did the White House. A White House official said it was not notified about the raid.
― Andy the Grasshopper, Monday, 8 August 2022 23:42 (one year ago) link
did all that toilet talk in the news this morning have to do with this?
― maf you one two (maffew12), Monday, 8 August 2022 23:42 (one year ago) link
There is some reporting that it was related to classified documents taken from the White House. I could have sworn we went through this already, but maybe it's just the wheels of justice moving slowly and finally catching up to what was reported months ago.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 8 August 2022 23:46 (one year ago) link
That was my guess as well.. probably china, silverware, linen too
― Andy the Grasshopper, Monday, 8 August 2022 23:48 (one year ago) link
they were given plenty of time to flush them
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Monday, 8 August 2022 23:51 (one year ago) link
Nah, I'd absolutely want Ice-T liveblogging a Trump perp walk.
― papal hotwife (milo z), Monday, 8 August 2022 23:58 (one year ago) link
The guy’s still got it. He knocked away all those headlines about wanting Hitler’s generals. Well done.
― F'kin Magnetometers, how do they work? (President Keyes), Tuesday, 9 August 2022 00:05 (one year ago) link
I voted quite a few days ago, but will be working through this playlist for a long while
― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 9 August 2022 00:09 (one year ago) link
gotta say, I'm leaning towards Classic
― maf you one two (maffew12), Tuesday, 9 August 2022 00:12 (one year ago) link
The warrant came with a playlist?
― clemenza, Tuesday, 9 August 2022 00:12 (one year ago) link
i bet it beats Obama's
― maf you one two (maffew12), Tuesday, 9 August 2022 00:13 (one year ago) link
Track 1:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NttlPwNKd_M
― F'kin Magnetometers, how do they work? (President Keyes), Tuesday, 9 August 2022 00:23 (one year ago) link
Lol whoops - wrong thread ha ha!
― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 9 August 2022 00:35 (one year ago) link
The fbi just broke into your safe - what’s on your playlist?!
― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 9 August 2022 00:36 (one year ago) link
So turns out violating the Presidential Records Act, which was passed after Watergate, disqualifies you from holding elected office.
― death generator (lukas), Tuesday, 9 August 2022 02:01 (one year ago) link
PLease don't tease me like that
― Are U down with the BVM (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 9 August 2022 02:02 (one year ago) link
Trump safe full of fraudulent steaks
― Are U down with the BVM (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 9 August 2022 02:04 (one year ago) link
Kevin McCarthy vowing revenge when the GOP regains power, seems bad
― frogbs, Tuesday, 9 August 2022 02:27 (one year ago) link
You know they’re going to impeach Biden three times if they take the House and Trump will try to call in a nuke on Delaware if he wins in ‘24.
― papal hotwife (milo z), Tuesday, 9 August 2022 02:33 (one year ago) link
There's going to be stupid stuff like this either way, why worry?
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Tuesday, 9 August 2022 03:10 (one year ago) link
― Mar - a - Lago, or 120 Days of Sodom (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 9 August 2022 03:19 (one year ago) link
the whole shit drives me nuts, I mean I know conservatives have baby brains so I get that they might think the President can just order FBI raids for no reason but it's literally the previous fucking President, if there's anyone who ought to know what the POTUS can and can't do it's fucking him!! if he could order raids to settle personal vendettas he would've done it nonstop while he was in office!! he literally appointed the guy who approved the raid because he was a Trump loyalist!! do they stop and think for a single fucking second or is this another one of those things they say constantly but don't actually believe???
― frogbs, Tuesday, 9 August 2022 03:40 (one year ago) link
1/3Per sources: search warrant at Mar-a-Lago was related to retention of classified docs. FBI showed up at 9am and left at 6:30pm. They were in plain clothes -- so club staff likely thought they were secret service. That is why it didn't leak earlier.— Brian Entin (@BrianEntin) August 9, 2022
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 9 August 2022 03:41 (one year ago) link
They’re mad cause an elite might actually answer for his crimes.
― Mar - a - Lago, or 120 Days of Sodom (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 9 August 2022 04:04 (one year ago) link
Unfortunately, I think will probably be forgotten in 10 days
And even if they find some really good shit in his safe, really juicy stuff, it may not be covered in the narrow scope of the warrant
― Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 9 August 2022 04:05 (one year ago) link
No one had a problem when the FBI was investigating Hilary Clinton when she was the Democratic nominee.
― Mar - a - Lago, or 120 Days of Sodom (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 9 August 2022 04:05 (one year ago) link
I mean, he won't.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 9 August 2022 04:10 (one year ago) link
There was communication between the FBI and US Secret Service before the search warrant was executed Monday, a person familiar with the matter said, allowing for the FBI to access the estate without any complications. There is only a small Secret Service footprint at Mar-a-Lago when Trump is not there....The National Archives, charged with collecting and sorting presidential material, has previously said at least 15 boxes of White House records were recovered from Trump’s Mar-a-Lago resort – including some that were classified.In early June, a handful of investigators made a rare visit to the property seeking more information about potentially classified material from Trump’s time in the White House that had been taken to Florida....The source said some of the documents shown to investigators had top secret markings.Five days later, on June 8, Trump’s attorneys received a letter from investigators asking them to further secure the room where the documents were stored. Aides subsequently added a padlock to the room....“It is a federal crime to remove classified documents wrongly. And so if you are filling out that affidavit and you have to list the crime, you can list that as the crime,” said Elie Honig, a former federal and state prosecutor and a CNN senior legal analyst.Honig told CNN’s Erin Burnett on “OutFront” that the timing of the search held with the longstanding department rule not to execute politically sensitive moves within 90 days of an election.“Today is just about 90 days out exactly from the midterms, I think maybe 91 or 92 days out. That policy, that may be a reason why they did it today because they want to stay clear of that if they’re interpreting that as a 90 day rule,” he said.
...The National Archives, charged with collecting and sorting presidential material, has previously said at least 15 boxes of White House records were recovered from Trump’s Mar-a-Lago resort – including some that were classified.
In early June, a handful of investigators made a rare visit to the property seeking more information about potentially classified material from Trump’s time in the White House that had been taken to Florida....The source said some of the documents shown to investigators had top secret markings.Five days later, on June 8, Trump’s attorneys received a letter from investigators asking them to further secure the room where the documents were stored. Aides subsequently added a padlock to the room....“It is a federal crime to remove classified documents wrongly. And so if you are filling out that affidavit and you have to list the crime, you can list that as the crime,” said Elie Honig, a former federal and state prosecutor and a CNN senior legal analyst.
Honig told CNN’s Erin Burnett on “OutFront” that the timing of the search held with the longstanding department rule not to execute politically sensitive moves within 90 days of an election.
“Today is just about 90 days out exactly from the midterms, I think maybe 91 or 92 days out. That policy, that may be a reason why they did it today because they want to stay clear of that if they’re interpreting that as a 90 day rule,” he said.
― dow, Tuesday, 9 August 2022 04:25 (one year ago) link
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/64/c4/cd/64c4cd722e929636b1b156934e9a8632.gif
― frogbs, Tuesday, 9 August 2022 04:30 (one year ago) link
There are clear laws that protect federal records – with varying degrees of likelihood in their application.https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/11/politics/trump-legal-risk-explainer/index.html
― dow, Tuesday, 9 August 2022 04:34 (one year ago) link
The only reason they would have to open the safe would be if someone told them what was likely in the safe, no?
I like the detail that it wasn't, like, some vault, it was just some shitty standard hotel safe.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 9 August 2022 12:36 (one year ago) link
I am curious why this Asshole who had no attachment to the office or job or White House or really much at all would take 15 boxes of *anything* with him, let alone 15 boxes of documents. He seems like the type of Asshole that would just leave all his shit behind. Also, 15 boxes is a lot. There is no way this dickhead knows what is in those boxes, right? He probably just told some underling to dump everything from the Oval Office into some boxes and ship it down to Florida, like someone who stays in hotels and compulsively takes home all the free pens, paper, soaps, shampoos, anything that's not nailed down.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 9 August 2022 12:41 (one year ago) link
he's probably selling information to other countries
― a (waterface), Tuesday, 9 August 2022 12:51 (one year ago) link
That's what I was thinking it was about, not stealing incriminating documents to protect himself, we already know he flushes those down the toilet, but stealing top secret documents to sell or blackmail, that sounds like something he wouldn't be able to resist on his way out of the white house.
― BrianB, Tuesday, 9 August 2022 13:10 (one year ago) link
We’ve gotten so used to the cartoon villainy of Trump and his people—but it is refreshing to see the FBI treating him with no deference.
― F'kin Magnetometers, how do they work? (President Keyes), Tuesday, 9 August 2022 13:15 (one year ago) link
One of Asshole's supporters tweeted some ridiculous defense about Asshole declassifying a bunch of shit and taking it with him because the American people deserve to know all these secrets, or some such shit. Which would imply intent to distribute or make public, if it weren't such obvious bullshit.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 9 August 2022 13:20 (one year ago) link
/22 This is a good suggestion by Andrew Weissmann. There’s reporting that a DoJ team recently visited Mar-a-Lago and talked to people including Trump himself about the documents. If he lied, that would be a classic FBI trap. Still seems light to justify that search. https://t.co/ppVVvIr5RD— DarkTimesHat (@Popehat) August 9, 2022
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 9 August 2022 13:28 (one year ago) link
Thomas Schwartz, a professor at Vanderbilt University who studies and writes about the presidency, said Nixon wasn’t allowed to take tapes or other materials from the White House when he resigned in 1974.
Many of Nixon's papers remained in Washington for years before being transferred to his presidential library in California, Schwartz said.
“This is different and it is a sign of how unique the Trump period was... how his behaviour was so unusual," Schwartz told the Associated Press news agency.
So Nixon wasn't 'allowed,' and Trump was allowed to remove stuff.. who is on site to make this call? Is there was non-partisan White House overseer?
― Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 9 August 2022 16:50 (one year ago) link
I mean, pretty clearly he *wasn't* allowed. Now able, that's a different question, but this Asshole has been able to do all sorts of shit his whole life.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 9 August 2022 16:51 (one year ago) link
the thing is, despite the resignation and everything else, the establishment would have lost it's mind if the FBI raided Nixon's home looking for evidence. I gather that the pardon was meant to stop that kind of thing from happening. Trump doesn't get that kind of institutional protection.
― F'kin Magnetometers, how do they work? (President Keyes), Tuesday, 9 August 2022 18:20 (one year ago) link
I think the key to this situation is that they were not looking for evidence, the evidence is what earned them the warrant.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 9 August 2022 18:39 (one year ago) link
One of the funniest things about the state of AI images right now is that when you feed it a name, it's just like, "Hell, yeah, got it, here's that person doing everything you wanted."Someone else asked it for an image of Trump getting perp-walked, and it returned this, lol pic.twitter.com/ikGBcW9Syt— Parker Molloy (@ParkerMolloy) August 9, 2022
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 9 August 2022 20:27 (one year ago) link
16 year old me: Hey, 37 year old me, what is the future like?Me: Well, I learned about the former president getting raided by the FBI from an internet cat talking to a rapper.16 year old me: wait what pic.twitter.com/U0gGaraHRl— Ben Mooney, Lasagna Councilman (@Ben_Etcetera) August 9, 2022
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 9 August 2022 20:48 (one year ago) link
that AI-generate image is gonna haunt my nightmares for weeks to come
― Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 9 August 2022 20:53 (one year ago) link
do they stop and think for a single fucking second or is this another one of those things they say constantly but don't actually believe???
No.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 10 August 2022 01:06 (one year ago) link
sir, this is a Wendy's pic.twitter.com/ptcXKEGcgI— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) August 10, 2022
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 10 August 2022 03:23 (one year ago) link
NEW YORK (AP) — Donald Trump says he invoked Fifth Amendment, declined to answer questions during testimony in NY civil investigation.— Hugo Lowell (@hugolowell) August 10, 2022
Honestly, if I were this asshole's lawyer I would just tell him to plead the 5th to anything, always, because he's a walking perjury trap, even discounting his usual run of the mill everyday perjury.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 10 August 2022 14:58 (one year ago) link
OK, knowing this guy's tweet history, there MUST be a time when he said "anyone pleading the 5th MUST be guilty!"
― WmC, Wednesday, 10 August 2022 15:01 (one year ago) link
Not that it matters a bit, but these clips will be on endless loop for the next couple of days.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMyh7ko9L2g
― clemenza, Wednesday, 10 August 2022 15:01 (one year ago) link
If I’m not mistaken, despite years of speculation and expectation, this is the first time Trump is actually invoking the Fifth to avoid answering questions. It is absolutely the right call in his circumstances.— InvokeTheHat (@Popehat) August 10, 2022
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 10 August 2022 15:11 (one year ago) link
Snopes: Did Trump Say ‘If You’re Innocent, Why Are You Taking the 5th Amendment?’
In fact, Trump has used the Fifth Amendment himself. Trump invoked his Fifth Amendment right during a divorce deposition in 1990 to avoid answering nearly a hundred questions.
― Kim Kimberly, Wednesday, 10 August 2022 15:27 (one year ago) link
yeah, looking at the thread I posted that is perhaps the only example people have of him using the fifth.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 10 August 2022 17:01 (one year ago) link
Trump took Fifth Amendment more than 440 times in refusing to answer New York attorney general’s questions https://t.co/t4kJ3UXyku— CNBC (@CNBC) August 11, 2022
In an episode of a low-budget Twilight Zone rip-off, Asshole would be stuck in a room pleading the fifth for eternity.
"What do you mean, Mr. Trump? This *is* your life!"
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 11 August 2022 13:51 (one year ago) link
At approximately 9 AM this morning an armed subject attempted to breach the Visitor Screening Facility at #FBI Cincinnati. After an alarm and a response by FBI special agents, the subject fled north onto Interstate 71. pic.twitter.com/vFZHnpbM9L— FBI Cincinnati (@FBICincinnati) August 11, 2022
― groovypanda, Thursday, 11 August 2022 16:20 (one year ago) link
of course, cincinnati is where the fbi keeps the extra top secret stuff
― Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Thursday, 11 August 2022 16:26 (one year ago) link
gee who could have imagined framing this as some banana republic shit would rile up the dumbshit Bocepherati
― We were clothed, except for Caan, who was naked. Don't know why. (Neanderthal), Thursday, 11 August 2022 16:33 (one year ago) link
well, the Cincinatti FBI office it clearly run by Democrats:
The office's public corruption team has been probing an alleged $60 million bribery scheme in which FirstEnergy Corp. reputedly paid former Republican Speaker Larry Householder to orchestrate the passage of a $1 billion bailout of two nuclear plants owned by its then-subsidiary and to squelch a repeal effort.
― President Keyes, Thursday, 11 August 2022 16:39 (one year ago) link
bringing a firearm into an FBI office before you have a chance to produce offspring might not be such a bad thing
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 11 August 2022 16:48 (one year ago) link
not surprising...
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/11/us/politics/trump-fbi-subpoena.html
― bookmarkflaglink (Darin), Thursday, 11 August 2022 17:22 (one year ago) link
I for one am shocked that the former President of the United States would blow off a subpoena.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 11 August 2022 17:34 (one year ago) link
Trump receives more restraint than the average poor civilian would when committing a crime, whine as if he's the victim of a no-knock warrant and had a flash bang grenade thrown in his face anyway
― We were clothed, except for Caan, who was naked. Don't know why. (Neanderthal), Thursday, 11 August 2022 17:38 (one year ago) link
Some senior Republicans have been warned by allies of Mr. Trump not to continue to be aggressive in criticizing the Justice Department and the F.B.I. over the matter because it is possible that more damaging information about Mr. Trump related to the search will eventually become public.
If this is true, will be interesting to see if it has an effect.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 11 August 2022 17:41 (one year ago) link
Once you hang your hat on "planted evidence" does it really matter what else comes out?
― henry s, Thursday, 11 August 2022 17:42 (one year ago) link
I am convinced that the DOJ/FBI would not have done this if the contents of the documents were not potentially very incriminating. The mere possession of them would be unlikely to justify such a public spectacle.
For that matter, I don't know why they would have been at Mar-A-Lago (how I have come to loathe that name) had they not been incriminating in the first place.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 11 August 2022 17:43 (one year ago) link
I was just holding it for a friend.
If this stuff were truly incriminating I'm wondering why it wasn't given a viking funeral like a long time ago?
― henry s, Thursday, 11 August 2022 17:45 (one year ago) link
That is a great question. On the other hand, I found myself wondering through all four years of the Kakistocracy why people were doing the things they were doing.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 11 August 2022 17:46 (one year ago) link
xp most likely because they just now found out about it somehow? I am still guessing this had to be something from Alex Jones's phone
― frogbs, Thursday, 11 August 2022 17:50 (one year ago) link
I'm sticking with my theory that Asshole took something as a souvenir that wouldn't pass the national security smell test. Could be something as seemingly innocuous (to Asshole) as a thank you note for dropping a bomb on an enemy or something, that seems like something Asshole would a) actually have read and b) taken with him and c) boastfully shared with others.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 11 August 2022 17:59 (one year ago) link
Would that constitute a "raid"
― Evan, Thursday, 11 August 2022 18:00 (one year ago) link
This is Trump's Rosebud, his Maltese Falcon ...
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 11 August 2022 18:03 (one year ago) link
I don’t think Alex Jones’ phone will turn out to have anything to do with this. Mark Banston has given an interview to Young Turks and says anybody expecting revelations will be disappointed as Jones appears to be rather isolated and nobody returns his messages. The most salacious thing was he had been sending nudes of his wife to Roger Stone, and Banks suggested these may have been taken without her knowledge.
Also dick pics.
Interview is on YouTube
― I am using your worlds, Thursday, 11 August 2022 18:08 (one year ago) link
Like I said some other time, it beggars belief that one of the most intellectually incurious people of all time would actually have 15 or 20 boxes of currently or formerly classified shit he wanted to take down with him, because that would presume he read it, and there is no way he did. So my guess is (best case scenario for him) it was just stuff of surface curiosity he took with him, and perhaps unknowingly some of that stuff was super-duper classified. And then at some point someone else got a gander ("Hey, check out this cool night-image picture of this Iranian nuclear weapons site we took before we blew the shit out of that place!") and ratted him out. Though I wish and hope it's something worse.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 11 August 2022 18:10 (one year ago) link
Mark Banston has given an interview to Young Turks and says anybody expecting revelations will be disappointed as Jones appears to be rather isolated and nobody returns his messages.
it's daily beast but
https://www.thedailybeast.com/tucker-carlson-shitting-himself-scared-that-his-alex-jones-texts-may-leak
― Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Thursday, 11 August 2022 18:11 (one year ago) link
we all know whats in those boxes... its da pee tape baby
― lag∞n, Thursday, 11 August 2022 18:20 (one year ago) link
in all seriousness he prob took whatever it was for a reason, but also it couldve been for no reason
― lag∞n, Thursday, 11 August 2022 18:21 (one year ago) link
unfortunate mixup with the pop secret homestyle butter 30 pack, unfortunately left behind and likely expired by now
― Evan, Thursday, 11 August 2022 18:28 (one year ago) link
“It’s important that I, and the DOJ, address what’s on every American’s minds at this unique moment in our history: Beyoncé’s ‘Renaissance’.”
― The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 11 August 2022 18:29 (one year ago) link
Asshole may have taken stuff he thought he could sell for big bux.
― Mar - a - Lago, or 120 Days of Sodom (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 11 August 2022 18:40 (one year ago) link
Duffy: Did they raid Hillary Clinton’s home?Jessica: They didn’t need to because she cooperated like a normal human being! pic.twitter.com/ElO9BjmJ16— Acyn (@Acyn) August 11, 2022
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 11 August 2022 18:43 (one year ago) link
Merrick Garland is gonna make a statement this afternoon. (It was supposed to happen at 2:30; still waiting.)
― but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 11 August 2022 18:53 (one year ago) link
https://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/dallas_stream6/2270399/
― President Keyes, Thursday, 11 August 2022 18:54 (one year ago) link
let's try that again:
https://www.nbcmiami.com/news/national-international/ag-merrick-garland-to-make-statement-days-after-search-of-trumps-mar-a-lago/2833431/?_osource=sm_npd_nbc_mia_twt_mn
― President Keyes, Thursday, 11 August 2022 18:55 (one year ago) link
You can almost never go wrong guessing that that is Trump's motivation.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 11 August 2022 19:04 (one year ago) link
Merrick making public statement right now...
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/08/11/attorney-general-merrick-garland-set-to-make-statement-days-after-fbi-raid-on-trump-home-at-mar-a-lago.html
― bookmarkflaglink (Darin), Thursday, 11 August 2022 19:08 (one year ago) link
Warrant to be unsealed and that's about it
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Thursday, 11 August 2022 19:10 (one year ago) link
The warrant has to list specifically what they were looking for and why they knew it was there
― President Keyes, Thursday, 11 August 2022 19:11 (one year ago) link
A very scrupulous “stay tuned folks”
― Bait Kush (Eric H.), Thursday, 11 August 2022 19:12 (one year ago) link
Just as Asshole didn't reveal the subpoena he was served about this stuff months ago, he didn't have to open his (virtual) mouth about the search. The fact that he was compelled to preemptively say shit and allow/encourage his minions to spread lies and stir shit does not bode well for what may have been found, but I guess we'll see, assuming we get more than a page of blacked-out text.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 11 August 2022 19:13 (one year ago) link
Hot-take observation made elsewhere, it will be curious to see if Trump *opposes* the motion to unseal any of the warrant.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 11 August 2022 19:15 (one year ago) link
not sure how common it is in other states, but in missouri warrants are public records
― Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Thursday, 11 August 2022 19:17 (one year ago) link
Sean Duffy is an anthropomorphic thumb
― castanuts (DJP), Thursday, 11 August 2022 19:23 (one year ago) link
End of the filing concludes: "This Court should unseal Docket Entry 17, subject to the presentation ofcountervailing interests by former President Trump." So yeah, Trump can say no, or sue or whatever to prevent its release/revelation, which if he does is not a good look for a guy that complained so loudly. Garland basically calling his bluff.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 11 August 2022 19:24 (one year ago) link
Fox News hosts now asking why Trump hasn’t released the warrant. Bret Baer and Martha MacCallum both agree that the next piece of info needed is the warrant, and expressed uncertainty about why Trump hasn’t released it.— Robert J. DeNault (@robertjdenault) August 11, 2022
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 11 August 2022 21:00 (one year ago) link
They need a new angle fast
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Thursday, 11 August 2022 21:02 (one year ago) link
For the same reason he didn't return the boxes, obviously. Some secrets and truths are too great for mortals, our species isn't ready for it.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 11 August 2022 21:05 (one year ago) link
'They took all my stuff! But it was, it was planted, it was mine, but that's what they, when they, had any of it all been declassified... mostly press clippings, but yeah they planted evidence! And they took my stuff, really bad.'
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 11 August 2022 21:06 (one year ago) link
Only people who are suspected of being guilty need to produce evidence that they are innocent. Think about it.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 11 August 2022 21:06 (one year ago) link
Innocent people have nothing to prove. That's just logic.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 11 August 2022 21:07 (one year ago) link
On yesterday's The Daily, Maggie Haberman said he was fascinated with some stuff, like letters from Kim Jong-un (remember that Trump was sending him some very effusive missives, proudly shared with The Failing New York Times etc.). Was showing them to other people, some other items as well, and some visitors did not have much in the way of security clearance (eyewitness reports, sounds like): https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/10/podcasts/the-daily/fbi-donald-trump-classified-records-mar-a-lago.html Gives the whole long-ass timeline of this recovery effort, of course, all the consideration he got.
― dow, Thursday, 11 August 2022 21:42 (one year ago) link
but, also, if the most important classified document that the fbi raided his house to get is some stupid memento, this country is FUCKED
― Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Thursday, 11 August 2022 21:45 (one year ago) link
on the plus side, if it's an important document, this country is REDEEMED
― Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Thursday, 11 August 2022 21:47 (one year ago) link
the FATE of the NATION is ON THE LINE....
COMING UP
― Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Thursday, 11 August 2022 21:48 (one year ago) link
just an example of things that he does take an interest in and show to whomever, demonstrating his loose behaviorRodan Rodan, you're a bad boyTokyoIs not your toy
― dow, Thursday, 11 August 2022 21:49 (one year ago) link
I imagine it's very possible/likely that Asshole (who was in NY) was told of the search warrant action, lashed out without even knowing what the warrant was about, mobilized his hornets and sycophants, and only then was informed by his lawyers what was in the warrant. And is now in an untenable position. Release the information and reveal the crime he possibly committed, or refuse and look even more guilty.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 11 August 2022 22:03 (one year ago) link
In other words, *classic* Trump.
if you read Charlie Kirk's twitter feed it's basically just "no u" rn
― We were clothed, except for Caan, who was naked. Don't know why. (Neanderthal), Thursday, 11 August 2022 22:13 (one year ago) link
wait, why would anybody do that
I heard a great quote from someone on the news right now, basically: "The DOJ played this quietly, Donald Trump is the one that made it loud."
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 11 August 2022 22:21 (one year ago) link
he's like Toshiro Mifune when he gets woken up in Seven Samurai
― We were clothed, except for Caan, who was naked. Don't know why. (Neanderthal), Thursday, 11 August 2022 22:31 (one year ago) link
Won't he just say that he would love to release the warrant but can't because he's, uh, being audited?
― henry s, Thursday, 11 August 2022 22:44 (one year ago) link
Trump allies are discussing the possibility of challenging DOJ's motion to unseal the Mar-a-Lago search warrant. They've contacted outside lawyers about helping them.confirmed by me & @maggieNYT https://t.co/7mngDhlAxz— Katie Benner (@ktbenner) August 11, 2022
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 11 August 2022 22:56 (one year ago) link
fwiw JiC your careful insistence on 'Asshole' is not really any better than going with 'Drumpf'
okay it's actually slightly better, but still
― mookieproof, Thursday, 11 August 2022 22:57 (one year ago) link
Happy to call him Trump. It's all really the same thing, isn't it?
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 11 August 2022 23:00 (one year ago) link
words are just the same letters in different orders
― Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Thursday, 11 August 2022 23:02 (one year ago) link
mio
In about two years people are going to be insisting that Trump was actually Antifa
― President Keyes, Thursday, 11 August 2022 23:02 (one year ago) link
some were saying that in 2016 when he was polling so badly!
― We were clothed, except for Caan, who was naked. Don't know why. (Neanderthal), Thursday, 11 August 2022 23:08 (one year ago) link
anyway it is clear how this will end, with the Rolling Stones killed
― We were clothed, except for Caan, who was naked. Don't know why. (Neanderthal), Thursday, 11 August 2022 23:09 (one year ago) link
Don't go there, but the Fox News site frames it as "Garland has until 3:00 tomorrow to convince Trump to release the warrant." Dang it, he wriggled out of another one!
― henry s, Friday, 12 August 2022 00:10 (one year ago) link
My guess is that he agrees to release it, but refers to it as the "unwarrant."
― henry s, Friday, 12 August 2022 00:11 (one year ago) link
um
FBI searched Trump’s home looking for nuclear documents and other items, according to people familiar with the investigation https://t.co/kbfLiO2veE— The Washington Post (@washingtonpost) August 12, 2022
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 12 August 2022 00:23 (one year ago) link
wait the documents are radioactive?
― We were clothed, except for Caan, who was naked. Don't know why. (Neanderthal), Friday, 12 August 2022 00:23 (one year ago) link
Classified documents relating to nuclear weapons were among the items FBI agents sought in a search of former president Donald Trump’s Florida residence on Monday, according to people familiar with the investigation.Experts in classified information said the unusual search underscores deep concern among government officials about the types of information they thought could be located at Trump’s Mar-a-Lago Club and potentially in danger of falling into the wrong hands.The people who described some of the material that agents were seeking spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss an ongoing investigation. They did not offer additional details about what type of information the agents were seeking, including whether it involved weapons belonging to the United States or some other nation. Nor did they say if such documents were recovered as part of the search. A Trump spokesman did not immediately respond to a request for comment. The Justice Department and FBI declined to comment.
The people who described some of the material that agents were seeking spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss an ongoing investigation. They did not offer additional details about what type of information the agents were seeking, including whether it involved weapons belonging to the United States or some other nation. Nor did they say if such documents were recovered as part of the search. A Trump spokesman did not immediately respond to a request for comment. The Justice Department and FBI declined to comment.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 12 August 2022 00:25 (one year ago) link
swear to god, if we tried and failed to get him on so many big things over four years, and him taking home cardboard boxes full of shit out in the open is what does him in....
― We were clothed, except for Caan, who was naked. Don't know why. (Neanderthal), Friday, 12 August 2022 00:26 (one year ago) link
there were stories about him being super into nukes
― lag∞n, Friday, 12 August 2022 00:26 (one year ago) link
its always like that its never the worst thing, tho tbf no one really tried to get him before xp
― lag∞n, Friday, 12 August 2022 00:27 (one year ago) link
My Own Private Search Warrant
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 12 August 2022 00:27 (one year ago) link
^Kanye
― We were clothed, except for Caan, who was naked. Don't know why. (Neanderthal), Friday, 12 August 2022 00:28 (one year ago) link
as much as I'd be excited about Trump being indicted, I probably wouldn't leave my house for a week knowing how his loony-toons base would react
― We were clothed, except for Caan, who was naked. Don't know why. (Neanderthal), Friday, 12 August 2022 00:29 (one year ago) link
(it should still happen)
maybe he lost a golf game with Putin... pee tape vs. strategic nuclear documentation, winner takes all
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 12 August 2022 00:29 (one year ago) link
Urkel defense is probably all he has going for him
https://c.tenor.com/oQOEF5bfCeIAAAAS/family-matters-did-i-do-that.gif
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 12 August 2022 00:34 (one year ago) link
Gee I wonder who might be interested in classified info about US nukes
― frogbs, Friday, 12 August 2022 00:39 (one year ago) link
We’ll see, but this may help explain why some Republicans are staying mum.
― The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 12 August 2022 00:41 (one year ago) link
It would have been cool if he’d taken a nuke with him
― President Keyes, Friday, 12 August 2022 00:42 (one year ago) link
"woke Americans wanting to arrest the President simply because they "don't want to be nuked". the Constitution provides no express protection against being nuked. get over it."
― We were clothed, except for Caan, who was naked. Don't know why. (Neanderthal), Friday, 12 August 2022 00:42 (one year ago) link
McConnell's silence is most telling of all... all he fucking cares about is regaining majority and that his blackened, bruised hands don't fall off
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 12 August 2022 00:44 (one year ago) link
Pretty sure he gave a fairly muted, non crazy reaction when news of the raid first dropped.
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Friday, 12 August 2022 00:46 (one year ago) link
yeah, that's what I mean by silence.. "let's not rush to judgement, let's see how this plays out etc" = silence
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 12 August 2022 00:49 (one year ago) link
That’s what I was getting at, too.
― The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 12 August 2022 00:53 (one year ago) link
McConnell's a knob but he's a strategist - while this raid might give a bump for Trump himself, it's really not helpful for the Party going into the midterms
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 12 August 2022 00:54 (one year ago) link
Any benefit might go more to trumpist loons in the primaries, who'll be easily picked off in the general, at least in some districts/states
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 12 August 2022 00:57 (one year ago) link
https://c.tenor.com/rXVv9jO6MBcAAAAC/check-check-your-butt.gif
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 12 August 2022 00:58 (one year ago) link
so i took a little nuke when i left, who cares, its tiny couldnt hurt a fly, i keep it on my desk, its beautiful perfectly made the type of thing thats so wonderful about this country, i show it to kids the little boys they go crazy for it ask me if they can set it off they say they want to be an army man when they grow up, and now the fbi wants to say im doing something wrong
― lag∞n, Friday, 12 August 2022 01:00 (one year ago) link
'I mean, why is everyone so secret about nukes? Why so secret? Let's get it out there, they'll show us theirs, we'll show them ours.. we need transparency about nukes, also about lo-flow shower heads, he's a great guy, he said there's no way he'd ever nuke us, not with me in office... now Sleepy Joe, well, I can't say.. can't guarantee we won't be nuked, if you could see...'
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 12 August 2022 01:04 (one year ago) link
Just thinking about that $2,000,000,000 deal Kushner made with the Saudis
― frogbs, Friday, 12 August 2022 01:05 (one year ago) link
there were a lot of Trumpers saying he had the legal right to take whatever he wanted and that he could declassify documents *after* he left office.
almost as if Trumpers don't actually know how government works.
― We were clothed, except for Caan, who was naked. Don't know why. (Neanderthal), Friday, 12 August 2022 01:05 (one year ago) link
That has created a sense of dog-catches-the-car whiplash for Trump and his team, who now must decide whether to permit the quick release of the search warrant — which may point to specific crimes that are under investigation — and a receipt detailing the items seized by FBI agents during the search..
'dog catches car' is a great metaphor for the GOP's current plight
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 12 August 2022 01:10 (one year ago) link
Unbelievable
he’s already fundraising pic.twitter.com/LHukDxFJkf— Mike Scollins (@mikescollins) August 12, 2022
― frogbs, Friday, 12 August 2022 01:18 (one year ago) link
hmm, sky's a bit more orange tonight, let me go outside and ch
― We were clothed, except for Caan, who was naked. Don't know why. (Neanderthal), Friday, 12 August 2022 01:26 (one year ago) link
Not a peep from the Trumpists right now they must be workshopping a really insane excuse
― frogbs, Friday, 12 August 2022 01:28 (one year ago) link
Pins and needles waiting to hear the spin from the right on this
― death generator (lukas), Friday, 12 August 2022 01:31 (one year ago) link
y'know that tweet is a joke right?
― We were clothed, except for Caan, who was naked. Don't know why. (Neanderthal), Friday, 12 August 2022 01:34 (one year ago) link
though not the fundraising part obv
But the fact it could be real says so much about our society :)
― frogbs, Friday, 12 August 2022 01:35 (one year ago) link
Also how is the Times going to take a neutral, dignified position on this?
― death generator (lukas), Friday, 12 August 2022 01:36 (one year ago) link
Trump Said the Mar-A-Lago Raid Was a Political Hit Job. But Some Disagree.
― frogbs, Friday, 12 August 2022 01:37 (one year ago) link
maybe you can try to understand the New York Times's effect on man
― We were clothed, except for Caan, who was naked. Don't know why. (Neanderthal), Friday, 12 August 2022 01:38 (one year ago) link
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FZ0vxD9XgAIeTnR?format=png&name=900x900
― lag∞n, Friday, 12 August 2022 01:48 (one year ago) link
Okay but surely, SURELY, now that we know what he took, the Times will take a clear stand. I'm just gonna go to bed and sleep comfortably, confident that the Times will do the right thing.
― death generator (lukas), Friday, 12 August 2022 01:53 (one year ago) link
― Andy the Grasshopper
shirtless putin with ripped abs: be careful Donald, or you might have to take your next shot...from the bunker
― Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Friday, 12 August 2022 02:15 (one year ago) link
god even I didn't expect it to be something this bad
― frogbs, Friday, 12 August 2022 02:45 (one year ago) link
like ALL THE FUCKING SCANDALS this dude had, all the extensive shit with Russia & randomly leaking classified secrets to them, then extorting Ukraine for Biden dirt, then straight up invoking a gang of insurrectionists to MURDER THE VICE PRESIDENT and somehow, fucking SOMEHOW, this might be the most insane of them all!! didn't he first ask to view this stuff right before his left office? like what is the point of keeping the toppest of top secret NUCLEAR documents IN YOUR HOUSE unless you were willing to sell them to another nation??? is there literally any worse crime against the country you can commit??
― frogbs, Friday, 12 August 2022 02:55 (one year ago) link
..."polls show that 44% believe the FBI planted the evidence, after weeks of tucker carlson blalaldsf;lsdf"
― Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Friday, 12 August 2022 03:10 (one year ago) link
let's be clear: this is not real life. this is ninja gaiden fan fiction
― Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Friday, 12 August 2022 03:11 (one year ago) link
Trump’s lawyers just released this in his defense. pic.twitter.com/sobIS2Q5Oa— lensflare (@lensflare8) August 12, 2022
― We were clothed, except for Caan, who was naked. Don't know why. (Neanderthal), Friday, 12 August 2022 03:26 (one year ago) link
god I just can't process it right now, on top of the five separate felonies he's already being investigated for it looks like he's committed a crime which I think would get you the death penalty everywhere on Earth
― frogbs, Friday, 12 August 2022 03:33 (one year ago) link
I’m lolling right now but I’m also not going to get my hopes up it’s like actual bomb plans. But after the last several years of madness have shown us things that exceed all our imaginations.
― Mar - a - Lago, or 120 Days of Sodom (Boring, Maryland), Friday, 12 August 2022 03:37 (one year ago) link
…there are things and events that have exceeded our imaginations.
― Mar - a - Lago, or 120 Days of Sodom (Boring, Maryland), Friday, 12 August 2022 03:39 (one year ago) link
*jots down a few notes*
i'd say this year has exceeded imaginations, easily
― Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Friday, 12 August 2022 03:43 (one year ago) link
You wouldn't raid a butt
― We were clothed, except for Caan, who was naked. Don't know why. (Neanderthal), Friday, 12 August 2022 03:46 (one year ago) link
You wouldn't download a nuke
re: getting your hopes up, I understand because this right here would be pretty much the only crime imaginable that would actually land Trump in jail, but on the other hand I'm not sure I want to live in a country where the leader of one of the two political parties is selling nuclear secrets to the only country able to successfully pull off a terrorist attack against us
― frogbs, Friday, 12 August 2022 03:49 (one year ago) link
i'm not sure i want to live here now anyway. all this is like side quest shit
― We were clothed, except for Caan, who was naked. Don't know why. (Neanderthal), Friday, 12 August 2022 03:51 (one year ago) link
looks like he's giving the feds the green light to release the warrant
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Friday, 12 August 2022 03:55 (one year ago) link
no no this is gonna be one of those "I will show you my tax returns but I can't because of the AUDIT" things
― frogbs, Friday, 12 August 2022 04:01 (one year ago) link
Wapo
https://i.imgur.com/EfXMARF.png
NYT
https://i.imgur.com/iQoxY3W.png
― peace, man, Friday, 12 August 2022 11:12 (one year ago) link
so now it’s illegal to be interested in physics
― nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Friday, 12 August 2022 11:20 (one year ago) link
Astonishing that there was that doc about NYT fighting for democracy at the start of the Trump era, and it's been pretty appalling at not both-sidesing every step of the way.
― politics is about vibes and the vibes are off (stevie), Friday, 12 August 2022 11:21 (one year ago) link
xp lol
― maf you one two (maffew12), Friday, 12 August 2022 12:12 (one year ago) link
(realized shortly after posting that i saw that line on twitter late last night and thats why it popped into my head this morning. dont want to get caught being dishonest on the trump thread)
― nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Friday, 12 August 2022 12:32 (one year ago) link
Stealing Twitter valor
― Mar - a - Lago, or 120 Days of Sodom (Boring, Maryland), Friday, 12 August 2022 12:51 (one year ago) link
So this pretty much confirms the presence of secret nuclear stuff, right?
Trump on Truth Social suggests without evidence that nuclear materials were planted by the FBI during the Mar-a-Lago search pic.twitter.com/EBaY37JZ5O— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) August 12, 2022
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 12 August 2022 13:07 (one year ago) link
i don't understand why he would want this information
― treeship., Friday, 12 August 2022 13:08 (one year ago) link
What do you get the man who has everything?
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 12 August 2022 13:09 (one year ago) link
if it was some kind of cunning attempt to sell secrets to another nation, why would he hide them in such a conspicuous place as mar-a-lago?
― treeship., Friday, 12 August 2022 13:10 (one year ago) link
just bizarre and inexplicable like so much else about this guy
― treeship., Friday, 12 August 2022 13:12 (one year ago) link
Again, this guy reportedly didn't read classified information when it was important to him. I bet whatever he has he took because he thought it looked cool or something stupid. Hell, I could imagine him taking something *because* it had a big red "classified" stamp on it or whatever.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 12 August 2022 13:16 (one year ago) link
He's still @realDonaldTrump on his own social network?
― jmm, Friday, 12 August 2022 13:18 (one year ago) link
and he uses the same prof pic too. brand consistency.
― treeship., Friday, 12 August 2022 13:20 (one year ago) link
JiC otm, i can believe that he would take stuff like that just bc he thought it was cool. he was so into the trappings of the presidency - getting visited by sports teams, a superplane, military parades, etc. cool nuclear stuff fits right into that zone of a 10 year olds idea of "badass president stuff"
― nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Friday, 12 August 2022 13:23 (one year ago) link
It is, how you say, very intersting that Trump is accusing the FBI of planting top secret nuke docs at Mar-a-Lago when AFAICT the presence of top secret nuke docs at Mar-a-Lago has been merely the topic of speculation and in no way confirmed. Until he pretty much did so just now. Dumbest fucking human on earth.
― Beautiful Bean Footage Fetishist (Old Lunch), Friday, 12 August 2022 13:31 (one year ago) link
Let me get this straight libs. When you laughed at him for not knowing about the nuclear triad he was unpresidential. But then, when he takes time and effort to better himself and study the nukes on his own time in his own home it suddenly becomes a problem? Hypocrisy much…— Conner Hafen (@Conblob) August 12, 2022
― frogbs, Friday, 12 August 2022 13:32 (one year ago) link
― treeship., Friday, August 12, 2022 8:10 AM (twenty-two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
same reason my son stashes Cheez-its in his dresser drawer. the worst thing that's ever happened to him is a 15 minute timeout
― frogbs, Friday, 12 August 2022 13:36 (one year ago) link
Orange Julius Rosenberg
― politics is about vibes and the vibes are off (stevie), Friday, 12 August 2022 13:42 (one year ago) link
this all seems far too credulous. he knew what he had and fought to hide it and keep it. why give him the benefit of the doubt?
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Friday, 12 August 2022 13:43 (one year ago) link
Reminds me of a Christopher Steele dossier!
Trump is an Amazon top reviewer
― President Keyes, Friday, 12 August 2022 14:05 (one year ago) link
Trump just admitting the documents were at Mar-a-Lago lmao
― frogbs, Friday, 12 August 2022 14:11 (one year ago) link
could you at least quote the man correctly? Reminds me of a Christofer Steele Dossier!xp
― big movers, hot steppers + long shaker intros (breastcrawl), Friday, 12 August 2022 14:13 (one year ago) link
i think he prob just liked having the secret stuff and he has a known interest in nukes but also part of him liking secret stuff is because it could be used in a deal because he likes deals
― lag∞n, Friday, 12 August 2022 14:29 (one year ago) link
saudis trying to get nukes would be very weird since theyre firmly under the usa protectorate and a big part of that arrangement is not getting nukes, however mbs is an ultra hawk so its possible that he could be trying to take the country in a new direction
― lag∞n, Friday, 12 August 2022 14:34 (one year ago) link
and if they wanted to get nukes they could surely do it without dealing with the cop magnet donald trump, but that of course doesnt mean they wouldnt do it, or maybe trump just thought they would like it, trying to sweeten the pot on jareds deals or something who knows, none of it makes sense but it wouldnt surprise me
― lag∞n, Friday, 12 August 2022 14:36 (one year ago) link
here comes president deals again
― Warning: Choking Hazard (Hunt3r), Friday, 12 August 2022 14:40 (one year ago) link
I mean, it also doesn't mean Trump wouldn't try to make a deal with them anyway, which is a problem enough on its own. Doesn't make it less terrible just because he failed to make the deal.
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 12 August 2022 14:40 (one year ago) link
back when he tried to trade ordinance and codes for greenland and keep it under the salary cap, but couldn't get it done. he needs a win here.
― Warning: Choking Hazard (Hunt3r), Friday, 12 August 2022 14:43 (one year ago) link
Let me guess, if he denies it and says the evidence was planted then... nothing happens...again.
― Buckfast At Tiffany's (Tom D.), Friday, 12 August 2022 14:45 (one year ago) link
He's too dumb to be a master criminal, I don't buy the idea of him having this stuff around to sell off to the highest bidder.
― Buckfast At Tiffany's (Tom D.), Friday, 12 August 2022 14:47 (one year ago) link
I dont buy that he wanted it as a souvenir, dude didn't give a shit about it even when he was in office
― frogbs, Friday, 12 August 2022 14:48 (one year ago) link
like gee willikers didn't he just say a week ago that we haven't gotten to the bottom of 9/11 yet
― frogbs, Friday, 12 August 2022 14:50 (one year ago) link
My bet is he was trying to take something to do with ufos or unexplained phenomena and accidentally put some nuclear stuff in the boxes.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 12 August 2022 14:55 (one year ago) link
Am I the only one wondering “what IS nuclear stuff”?
― Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Friday, 12 August 2022 14:58 (one year ago) link
nuclear is unclear
― Evan, Friday, 12 August 2022 14:59 (one year ago) link
It’s...how to make a bomb tutorial? No. Passwords? Maybe (?) but hopefully they change them after five-year-olds are president? Locations of secret uranium stocks or refineries? A list of top ten nuclear explosions of all time? Rolodex of nuclear experts that you can just call and they tell you how it all works?
― Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Friday, 12 August 2022 15:01 (one year ago) link
What is the document that can be sold to another country for billions of dollars
basically every government thing nuclear is classified by default and theres tons of it could be anything
Great little story from @mjgault on classification and the nuclear enterprise. https://t.co/aAF0kpo6a1— Kelsey D. Atherton (@AthertonKD) August 12, 2022
― lag∞n, Friday, 12 August 2022 15:03 (one year ago) link
A set of plutonium golf tees
― Halfway there but for you, Friday, 12 August 2022 15:04 (one year ago) link
apparently he handed over 15 boxes of classified material to the national archives a few months ago but specifically declined, i guess, to include whatever these documents are
― treeship., Friday, 12 August 2022 15:08 (one year ago) link
also like, if he's had these documents for over a year, how could the fbi "take them away"? wouldn't there likely be copies of whatever it is he wanted?
― treeship., Friday, 12 August 2022 15:09 (one year ago) link
*lord of the rings voice* my precious hehe
― lag∞n, Friday, 12 August 2022 15:09 (one year ago) link
Maybe he thought Biden needed the info and that these were the only copies.
― Cow_Art, Friday, 12 August 2022 15:34 (one year ago) link
you work with what youve got
It’s not very good, but the talking point has been established. pic.twitter.com/VB5svffL7z— Seth Cotlar (@SethCotlar) August 12, 2022
― lag∞n, Friday, 12 August 2022 15:37 (one year ago) link
ok lol I'd missed the part about him making this a felony: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/08/10/trump-fbi-search-surveillance-law/
If Trump is found to have violated federal law in removing and retaining classified documents without authorization, he could be convicted of a felony punishable by five years in prison. And that conviction would be a felony carrying that punishment because of a law signed by President Donald Trump.
― rob, Friday, 12 August 2022 15:42 (one year ago) link
Not sure you just wanna be admitting it like this
New Trump statement just dropped:He heard that his predecessor, who may or may not be a radical Islamic terrorist, kept "lots" of classified nuclear documents. pic.twitter.com/T3scYJcv6o— Justin Baragona (@justinbaragona) August 12, 2022
― frogbs, Friday, 12 August 2022 15:52 (one year ago) link
18 months after trump leaves:
"Hey can you pull me the file on the nuclear gizmo?"
"sure. hmmm, shit!"
"what's up?"
"folder is empty... wait, there's some old french fries at the bottom?"
"...are they moldy?"
"no, but how-"
"mcdonalds"
― Evan, Friday, 12 August 2022 15:56 (one year ago) link
Guys 33 million pages seems way worse! That’s a lot more boxes just sitting on Martha’s Vineyard!
― Bait Kush (Eric H.), Friday, 12 August 2022 15:56 (one year ago) link
wow that's like 3 copies of infinite jest
― Evan, Friday, 12 August 2022 15:57 (one year ago) link
as a side note, the 33 million documents to which you will see many references in the coming days are documents set aside for the Obama presidential library. they are not boxes of documents that Obama is personally holding on to at his private residence.
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Friday, 12 August 2022 15:58 (one year ago) link
Wow, if the FBI has waited 1,999 days to get those nuclear documents back from Obama then they're worse at their jobs than I thought. Sad!
― President Keyes, Friday, 12 August 2022 15:58 (one year ago) link
this is literally the "The Kennedys did it too" defense
― President Keyes, Friday, 12 August 2022 16:00 (one year ago) link
I just googled and there’s even more nuclear documents on the web, Wikipedia alone- tons on nuclear
― Evan, Friday, 12 August 2022 16:01 (one year ago) link
snitch
― President Keyes, Friday, 12 August 2022 16:09 (one year ago) link
Fox News is also going with the sweet innocent baby angle
Fox's Sean Duffy floats a new Trump raid talking point -- Trump didn't pack the boxes from the White House, so he doesn't know what's in them."Do you think that he went through the boxes at Mar-a-Lago? Do you think he knows what he had in those boxes? I don’t think he did." pic.twitter.com/UZOOXbtx8c— Justin Baragona (@justinbaragona) August 12, 2022
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Friday, 12 August 2022 16:20 (one year ago) link
the famously legitimate didnt know i was committing a crime defense
― lag∞n, Friday, 12 August 2022 16:24 (one year ago) link
Melania told him they were Christmas decorations! You know, we say 'Merry Christmas' again...
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 12 August 2022 16:26 (one year ago) link
the famous I accidentally stole nuclear secrets defense
― death generator (lukas), Friday, 12 August 2022 16:27 (one year ago) link
do we actually know they included launch codes? or is launch codes sort of a shorthand for "detailed operational plans" or something?
― death generator (lukas), Friday, 12 August 2022 16:28 (one year ago) link
we dont know what was in there all nuclear stuff of which there is tons is default classified and cannot be declassified by the president is my understanding based on reading a few articles and many tweets over the last couple days
― lag∞n, Friday, 12 August 2022 16:30 (one year ago) link
word is now that these may be the NOC lists, which is the thing Tom Cruise stole in Mission Impossible lol
― frogbs, Friday, 12 August 2022 16:34 (one year ago) link
Anyone consider that maybe Trump just wanted to make nuclear weapons?
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 12 August 2022 16:36 (one year ago) link
For the moment, I'm just gonna pretend that we live in the world where this shit actually produces results instead of the world where he once again eludes any semblance of consequence before stealing the 2024 election and establishing the Trump dynasty of god emperors.
― Beautiful Bean Footage Fetishist (Old Lunch), Friday, 12 August 2022 16:38 (one year ago) link
i think it could go either way
― lag∞n, Friday, 12 August 2022 16:39 (one year ago) link
The predictability is so tiring..
"I didn't do it, it's a witch hunt"... "Well it was planted, you see"... "OBAMA DID IT TOO"
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 12 August 2022 16:47 (one year ago) link
I wonder if he is going to try to retroactively declare Mar- a - Lago as a presidential library and claim anyone could have made an appointment to see the “nuclear”.
― Mar - a - Lago, or 120 Days of Sodom (Boring, Maryland), Friday, 12 August 2022 16:50 (one year ago) link
opening a library in Florida is also a felony though
― rob, Friday, 12 August 2022 16:59 (one year ago) link
Actual photo of the Obama Presidential Libraryhttps://www.mlive.com/resizer/D5R-Xho4kC1djylNedt11omxbww=/1280x0/smart/cloudfront-us-east-1.images.arcpublishing.com/advancelocal/5ALCNB6YR5CBVL6Y6IT5AGKJPU.JPG
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 12 August 2022 16:59 (one year ago) link
2017!https://www.theonion.com/mar-a-lago-assistant-manager-wondering-if-anyone-coming-1819579801
― StanM, Friday, 12 August 2022 17:00 (one year ago) link
The Very. First. Issue. Of Spy. 1986. pic.twitter.com/yGEMKwxjoZ— David Kamp (@MrKamp) August 12, 2022
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 12 August 2022 17:04 (one year ago) link
Actual Politico subhead:
Republicans who days ago were near-united in blasting the Justice Department are allowing that nuclear weapons-related materials at Mar-a-Lago might be problematic.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 12 August 2022 17:06 (one year ago) link
he loves nuclear its one of his things
― lag∞n, Friday, 12 August 2022 17:07 (one year ago) link
Actual WaPo head:
Event venues (like Trump’s Mar-a-Lago) are not good places to store nuclear secrets
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 12 August 2022 17:08 (one year ago) link
they should be stored at Hobby Lobby
― We were clothed, except for Caan, who was naked. Don't know why. (Neanderthal), Friday, 12 August 2022 17:09 (one year ago) link
everything is problematic these days, I'll bet DOD even put trigger warnings on these specs for advanced weapons systems
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Friday, 12 August 2022 17:10 (one year ago) link
I wouldn't put it past Trump to steal nuclear documents and store them at his resort just to own the libs. "Boo hoo, snowflakes!"
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 12 August 2022 17:13 (one year ago) link
why are you so determined to find a million reasons to let him off the hook for this?
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Friday, 12 August 2022 17:13 (one year ago) link
This story is lol, but I'm going to guess everyone will have forgotten about it in three weeks (except perhaps as a right-wing talking point).
― doomposting is the new composting (PBKR), Friday, 12 August 2022 17:32 (one year ago) link
Probably because they will have discovered something even worse. Anyway, he's totally on the hook for this (whatever this turns out to be, exactly). But it is completely in character for Trump to commit a major crime for the stupidest reason possible, vs some sort of ambitious "I'm going to smuggle these nuclear secrets out of the White House and sell them to the Saudis for billions!" scheme. He's such a fuck-up. So it's kind of like the Trump version of Occam's Razor: what is the stupidest possible reason for him to commit a crime?
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 12 August 2022 17:34 (one year ago) link
xxpost Because he was the President, and if he wants to be the President of the New Breakaway Republic of Flexas he has to bring Nuclear with him. What's a country without Nuclear? It's like when you leave one job for another, you don't leave all that experience behind.
― President Keyes, Friday, 12 August 2022 17:36 (one year ago) link
“I can tell you that there are a number of things that fall under the umbrella of nuclear weapons, but that are not necessarily things that are truly classified. Many of them you can find on your own phone,” said Rep. Mike Turner (R-Ohio), ranking member of the House Intelligence Committee.
Other members invoked the 2017 congressional baseball shooting and, yet again, the Hillary Clinton email scandal.
Rep. Chris Stewart (R-Utah) asked: “Was it nuclear? Was it ― heck, maybe it was aliens. That’s the point. We don’t know. We are asking them to tell us.”
― President Keyes, Friday, 12 August 2022 17:37 (one year ago) link
Heck, we don't know. It might have been Melania's famous goulash recipe.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 12 August 2022 17:39 (one year ago) link
Because Trump hasn't been convicted in court yet that means he is innocent and must be released
― We were clothed, except for Caan, who was naked. Don't know why. (Neanderthal), Friday, 12 August 2022 17:39 (one year ago) link
heck, maybe it was aliens
― Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Friday, 12 August 2022 17:41 (one year ago) link
that's the point.
more importantly, he says he is innocent. guilty people don't say that.
― President Keyes, Friday, 12 August 2022 17:41 (one year ago) link
guys I want to remind u of something
~innocent until PROVEN guilty~
ergo
if he has not been proven guilty in a court of law
that means he is innocent
and legally
that means he can no longer be investigated
― We were clothed, except for Caan, who was naked. Don't know why. (Neanderthal), Friday, 12 August 2022 17:42 (one year ago) link
Regular reminder to the Biden administration and the DOJ that much of the public will judge how severe Trump's misconduct is based on how severe the consequences he will face are, not the other way around!— Michael Tae Sweeney (@mtsw) August 12, 2022
"the power of positive thinking" case for the prosecution
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 12 August 2022 17:44 (one year ago) link
he's like the ultimate 1-dimensional chess player. his big scheme to squeeze Ukraine for dirt on the Bidens was just to call Zelensky up on the phone and say it outright while like 50 different people were listening. i would be shocked if there were any plan at play in his mind beyond some variation of "having this stuff makes me feel cool"
― nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Friday, 12 August 2022 17:44 (one year ago) link
It's kind of a shame, the one person reckless and wild enough to release secret proof of aliens also turned out to be the one imbecile so intellectually incurious he probably didn't bother to look. He probably just did the top-secret archives equivalent of googling himself all day.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 12 August 2022 17:45 (one year ago) link
xpost The way I heard it put yesterday was that the DOJ is playing chess but he is eating checkers. Might have to credit Jennifer fuckin' Rubin for that one.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 12 August 2022 17:46 (one year ago) link
agents left this behind
https://khristore.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/s-l1600-17.jpg
― President Keyes, Friday, 12 August 2022 17:46 (one year ago) link
Breaking on WSJ: FBI removed 11 sets of classified documents, including some marked as Top Secret, as well as information about the President of France, binders of photos, a handwritten note and an executive grant of clemency for Roger Stone.— Hugo Lowell (@hugolowell) August 12, 2022
BTW, it's one hour before deadline and nothing has been released/revealed yet. Probably because of the audit.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 12 August 2022 17:52 (one year ago) link
Mon dieu, Macron!
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 12 August 2022 17:53 (one year ago) link
The man really loves the French Presidents.
― Mar - a - Lago, or 120 Days of Sodom (Boring, Maryland), Friday, 12 August 2022 17:53 (one year ago) link
Didn’t he call Sarkozy (or Macron) randomly at the middle of the night just to talk?
― Mar - a - Lago, or 120 Days of Sodom (Boring, Maryland), Friday, 12 August 2022 17:54 (one year ago) link
https://andrewsidea.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/bar2.jpg
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 12 August 2022 17:56 (one year ago) link
Boom.The former President is under investigation for 793. (And obstruction). pic.twitter.com/WXQCVObQK8— emptywheel (@emptywheel) August 12, 2022
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 12 August 2022 18:43 (one year ago) link
NEW via Breitbart: Trump under investigation per search warrant for:18 USC 2071 — Concealment, removal or mutilation18 USC 793 — Gathering, transmitting or losing defence information18 USC 1519 — Destruction, alteration or falsification of records in Federal investigations— Hugo Lowell (@hugolowell) August 12, 2022
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 12 August 2022 18:45 (one year ago) link
if's the ufo stuff
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 12 August 2022 18:45 (one year ago) link
Someone should ask emptywheel if he is under investigation for violations of BOFA.
― doomposting is the new composting (PBKR), Friday, 12 August 2022 18:47 (one year ago) link
793 is apparently the espionage act.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 12 August 2022 18:50 (one year ago) link
For those following along at home, 793 is a main Espionage Act offense, 2071 is purloining government records, and 1519 is destroying or mutilating them. https://t.co/vxmyFb4tpc pic.twitter.com/TB0xhySPOV— southpaw (@nycsouthpaw) August 12, 2022
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 12 August 2022 18:51 (one year ago) link
Breitbart: The document, obtained and reviewed by Breitbart News, shows that the DOJ and FBI waited several days after Reinhart approved the warrant to conduct the raid, something that severely undercuts the talking points issued by Attorney General Merrick Garland in a public statement on Thursday
Early in the article, it admits 'nearly three full days' and then goes on to repeatedly say 'several days'
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 12 August 2022 18:54 (one year ago) link
The first time I saw the judge referenced I thought they were talking about Judge Reinhold.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 12 August 2022 18:57 (one year ago) link
more breitbart: " ...seems to indicate that the judge did not think this is so serious that immediate or urgent action was needed..."
This will become a talking point: the judge didn't think it was very serious
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 12 August 2022 18:57 (one year ago) link
let them talk.
he's not going to jail for ten years, more than likely, but this is definitely not a 'i can't wait to see Trump wriggle out of that one' scenario. if charges don't get filed, it'll be because they didn't find what they expect or the investigation didn't turn up what they thought, not because anybody leaned on them. Trump and conservative media is outright trying to get FBI agents murdered, I sincerely doubt any of them are going to show restraint.
he fucked up in a way he can't easily snap his fingers out of this time.
― We were clothed, except for Caan, who was naked. Don't know why. (Neanderthal), Friday, 12 August 2022 19:05 (one year ago) link
Breitbart breaking the story is literally the ep of South Park with Cartman showing the entire class the pic of him sticking his dick in Butters's mouth so he could get ahead of the story
― We were clothed, except for Caan, who was naked. Don't know why. (Neanderthal), Friday, 12 August 2022 19:08 (one year ago) link
lolY'know, fuckit, even if all that comes out of this is Trump being rendered ineligible to run for president again, I'll count it as a pretty major W.
― Beautiful Bean Footage Fetishist (Old Lunch), Friday, 12 August 2022 19:10 (one year ago) link
Maybe the funniest breaking news article I've ever read https://t.co/7Eo0MtQK14 pic.twitter.com/YivbFJKr3h— Osita Nwanevu (@OsitaNwanevu) August 12, 2022
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 12 August 2022 19:12 (one year ago) link
“much of the public will judge how severe Trump's misconduct is based on how severe the consequences he will face are, not the other way around!”No it’s worse as usual. Trumpists will only judge misconduct as negative if any negative effects will affect them PERSONALLY.That is the loyalty oath. “I don’t care that you did crime. I will defend or deny your blackest deed. I only care if your crime was against ME. Otherwise, fuck my enemies and make our side win.”
― Warning: Choking Hazard (Hunt3r), Friday, 12 August 2022 19:23 (one year ago) link
The longer receipt was signed by FBI Special Agent Jeremy Linton and the shorter receipt was signed by the name: “L. Grady Gary” and includes the title SSA. It is unclear who that person is, and the handwriting is not the clearest.
Grassy knoll guy obv
― President Keyes, Friday, 12 August 2022 19:24 (one year ago) link
Trump apparently leaked the warrant to Breitbart. The DOJ had sought to redact or shield the names of agents involved. Trump took no caution. The Breitbart article has names of agents, which obviously puts a target on their back. Reprehensible. Trump needs to be stopped. Enough.— Don Lewis (@DonLew87) August 12, 2022
― StanM, Friday, 12 August 2022 19:27 (one year ago) link
yeah right wingers already going nuts because Linton filed an affidavit with the 1/6 committee
― President Keyes, Friday, 12 August 2022 19:34 (one year ago) link
that bit from breitbart - "as president he has original and absolute declassification authority" - is flat wrong, as i understand it - the current president can re-classify anything declassified by their predecessor. and also that "absolute" declassification authority does not extend to things like espionage-related material & nuclear secrets. if that is going to be their best argument, it will not get them very far.
― nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Friday, 12 August 2022 19:45 (one year ago) link
CNN re WSJ:
Federal agents reportedly seized one set of "top secret/SCI" documents, the highest level of classification. Agents took four sets of "top secret" documents, three sets of "secret" documents and three sets of "confidential" documents, the lowest level of classification, the Journal reported.
― dow, Friday, 12 August 2022 19:45 (one year ago) link
they believe taking a little Harry Potter wand and going "declassifiiiiiiiiied" is all it takes
― We were clothed, except for Caan, who was naked. Don't know why. (Neanderthal), Friday, 12 August 2022 19:46 (one year ago) link
FBI are so stupid... the docs they planted were already declassified!
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 12 August 2022 19:47 (one year ago) link
DECLASSIFIUS
― thinkmanship (sleeve), Friday, 12 August 2022 19:49 (one year ago) link
it's been pointed out elsewhere that the crimes being investigated do not hinge upon the classification status of the documents
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Friday, 12 August 2022 19:49 (one year ago) link
yeah, the whole declassifying stuff as I'm running out the door thing smacks of "Of course I can pardon myself"
― President Keyes, Friday, 12 August 2022 19:51 (one year ago) link
ya it's a tough spot because somehow I don't think "so what Obama took 33,000,000 pages of documents with him" is gonna stick either
― frogbs, Friday, 12 August 2022 19:52 (one year ago) link
esp since it was a completely different situation.
― We were clothed, except for Caan, who was naked. Don't know why. (Neanderthal), Friday, 12 August 2022 19:57 (one year ago) link
why has nobody investigated 311 yet
i'm going to a metal show where I know the , uh, Trump quotient is going to be, well, way above zero, and not looking forward to talking to anybody tonight.
my friend is working a country music festival and she's already worried about shenanigans or people harassing her about being liberal and shit, which already happens
― We were clothed, except for Caan, who was naked. Don't know why. (Neanderthal), Friday, 12 August 2022 19:58 (one year ago) link
also b/c he made his entire campaign in 2016 about handling of confidential information which led to him signing the law he's gonna get tried for lmao
― frogbs, Friday, 12 August 2022 19:58 (one year ago) link
as much as I enjoy watching all these idiots squirm, I'm really annoyed that he's back in the news... a year or so ago, he seemed to be fading away
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 12 August 2022 19:59 (one year ago) link
real question is who's gonna prosecute him, the federal courts are full of Trump loyalists and if Congress has anything to do with it it's over
― frogbs, Friday, 12 August 2022 20:00 (one year ago) link
Really can't believe nobody ever made Biden/Harris "Fuck Your Feelings" T-shirts, except for, you know, the risk of getting shot.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Friday, 12 August 2022 20:01 (one year ago) link
another amusing detail: it turns out that Christina Bobb, Trump's attorney who suggested on various news shows that the evidence was planted and there was no nuclear info, is the person who signed the receipt received from the FBI
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Friday, 12 August 2022 20:02 (one year ago) link
I'm sure they used their FBI bedazzlers to get her to sign
― President Keyes, Friday, 12 August 2022 20:10 (one year ago) link
Yesterday I walked into a bookstore and overhead this guy who looked to be in his mid-60s just absolutely berating a cashier to the point of her being in tears. Fortunately another employee (probably a manager of some sort) came out and firmly shut him down and escorted him out.
I was not at all surprised to see that he was wearing both a "Let's Go Brandon" hat AND t-shirt when he turned around.
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 12 August 2022 20:11 (one year ago) link
And Underoos, probably
― The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 12 August 2022 20:12 (one year ago) link
The more I hear it being talked and read what's being written about it, the more I think the dude might finally be fucked, at least as a politician. Desantis (or some other ghoul or goon) must be loving this.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 12 August 2022 20:13 (one year ago) link
xxxpost Initial reports incl. that she (Bobb) was there the whole time. (Trump: "Wimmin.")
― dow, Friday, 12 August 2022 20:14 (one year ago) link
And once again Jeff Sessions did absolutely nothing to protect him, that rat fink
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 12 August 2022 20:20 (one year ago) link
Who would have ever imagined that Donald Trump's ultimate undoing would not be lack of intelligence but possessing *too much* intelligence.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 12 August 2022 20:21 (one year ago) link
― death generator (lukas), Friday, 12 August 2022 20:23 (one year ago) link
So the strategy is:*Trump releases photocopies he has of all the docs, in like, Breitbart*“Give me a break, who didn’t KNOW all this worthless garbage already? EVERYBODY has known this forever. This is all a worthless crime against ME over stuff we’ve all known and nobody cares about!”Trumpistas “YEAH STOP THE FBI AND DOJ— THE REAL CRIMINALS!!
― Warning: Choking Hazard (Hunt3r), Friday, 12 August 2022 20:24 (one year ago) link
A little reminder: The DoJ referred to this as the "pre-indictment stage" of the (espionage) investigation into donald trump in their motion to unseal the warrant.— Mueller, She Wrote (@MuellerSheWrote) August 12, 2022
― death generator (lukas), Friday, 12 August 2022 20:26 (one year ago) link
Looking forward to singing "He's So Indicted" to a specific factory guy wearing Trump t-shirts and hats daily.
― the body of a spider... (scampering alpaca), Friday, 12 August 2022 20:30 (one year ago) link
lol Josh
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Friday, 12 August 2022 20:30 (one year ago) link
I’m probably way behind the curve in noticing this, but when did WSJ op-eds become indistinguishable from Fox News? https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-payback-for-mar-a-lago-will-be-brutal-trump-raid-fbi-justice-department-president-investigation-11660255311
― Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Friday, 12 August 2022 20:40 (one year ago) link
outside of a few writers that lean centrist or left, for several years now
― We were clothed, except for Caan, who was naked. Don't know why. (Neanderthal), Friday, 12 August 2022 20:47 (one year ago) link
yeah, when that old fuck bought the paper
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 12 August 2022 20:50 (one year ago) link
donald trump has converted to islam— DougExeter (@Doug_Exeter) August 12, 2022
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 12 August 2022 20:50 (one year ago) link
Top comments on Trump forums right now are just trying to ID the specific FBI agents who were part of and signed off on the raid so they can be “helicopter passengers,” a reference to Chilean dictator Augusta Pinochet murdering dissidents by throwing them out of helicopters.— Ben Collins (@oneunderscore__) August 12, 2022
so many people are gonna get visits in the upcoming weeks
― frogbs, Friday, 12 August 2022 20:51 (one year ago) link
He's So Indicted"
my favorite Pointer Sisters song
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 12 August 2022 20:51 (one year ago) link
it's kind of funny that everybody is saying this will completely rejuvenate Republicans/Trumpers prior to 2022 and/or 2024 and cause massive Democratic losses. because they literally said that during the impeachment trial, and it didn't help him fuck all during the 2020 election (granted, his handling of COVID-19 and the economy at the time didn't help him).
granted, I wouldn't say Democratic/left winger voters are as fired up as they were in 2018 or 2020 as they're just fucking exhausted and angry at Roe v Wade, but Independents, as always, are the wild card. right now, it's worrying as they're not loving Biden, but don't exactly think people who identify as Independents are gonna be real 'fired up' over this right now.
not to mention there is definitely more Republican in-fighting going on now than there was before, a lot more splintering factions.
i wouldn't care if his imprisonment guaranteed a Republican president in 2024 though, I'd still support it because if you only do things based on how other people might react, then nothing matters and laws don't mean anything, we're just a reactive society that bases action on what other people might do.
― We were clothed, except for Caan, who was naked. Don't know why. (Neanderthal), Friday, 12 August 2022 20:56 (one year ago) link
The 'independents,' as you pointed out, are all who matter.
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 12 August 2022 20:57 (one year ago) link
arrest DeSantis too IMO
― We were clothed, except for Caan, who was naked. Don't know why. (Neanderthal), Friday, 12 August 2022 21:00 (one year ago) link
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 12 August 2022 21:00 (one year ago) link
into the sun
― broccoli rabe thomas (the table is the table), Friday, 12 August 2022 21:01 (one year ago) link
that is just how bullies talk. "if you try to do anything about it it'll only make us stronger". anyone who thought the FBI would raid Mar-a-Lago for "political reasons" is voting Republican no matter what anyway
― frogbs, Friday, 12 August 2022 21:02 (one year ago) link
Republicans also seem to think being a victim is 'fun' and that they're missing out on all of the joyous experience of being victimized because they enjoy usurping the language of victims and cosplaying as victims, it's like fun you get to get mad, and yell, and cry, and ask people to give you money as a result, and also make sure you talk about Dr King and how you're similar to him
― We were clothed, except for Caan, who was naked. Don't know why. (Neanderthal), Friday, 12 August 2022 21:03 (one year ago) link
granted, I wouldn't say Democratic/left winger voters are as fired up as they were in 2018 or 2020 as they're just fucking exhausted and angry at Roe v Wade
I gotta say, my anecdotal experience is that suburban moms are riled as hell about Roe v Wade and unlike college students they are liable to vote.
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, 12 August 2022 21:06 (one year ago) link
I'm not sure if "our top guy got arrested for espionage" is a particularly good message for the midterms
― frogbs, Friday, 12 August 2022 21:08 (one year ago) link
IF YOU VOTE FOR US WE'LL ARREST THE OTHER GUY
― We were clothed, except for Caan, who was naked. Don't know why. (Neanderthal), Friday, 12 August 2022 21:09 (one year ago) link
is the name of my dog
hmm eephus! good point
i'm trying to imagine the interior life of someone who in 2022 still doesnt have a strong positive or negative opinion of trump, and what might get them "fired up"
― nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Friday, 12 August 2022 21:13 (one year ago) link
fun to imagine the sort of person who could potentially land on a jury
― frogbs, Friday, 12 August 2022 21:15 (one year ago) link
Not sure about their interior life but in their exterior life they would look a lot like Ken Bone.
― henry s, Friday, 12 August 2022 21:17 (one year ago) link
"Donald Trump? Wasn't he the USFL guy?"
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 12 August 2022 21:18 (one year ago) link
well that name just triggered some PTSD
― frogbs, Friday, 12 August 2022 21:18 (one year ago) link
Donald Simp
― We were clothed, except for Caan, who was naked. Don't know why. (Neanderthal), Friday, 12 August 2022 21:21 (one year ago) link
^^ side 2 The Great Escape track
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 12 August 2022 21:24 (one year ago) link
Speaking of Club Mar-a-La-Go-Go:
Reports of former President DONALD TRUMP storing 11 sets of classified documents, possibly containing nuclear weapons-related and “special access program” info, at Mar-a-Lago have centered attention on the sensitivity of those papers.But the more important aspect, according to a former official who assisted GEORGE W. BUSH's handling of the government's classification system, is the lack of protection of those items.“Let's say one of those documents was about Bill Leonard and had my social security number on it. The Privacy Act prohibits the disclosure of that information,” said J. WILLIAM LEONARD, who from 2002 to 2008 led the Information Security Oversight Office. “But if you're talking about information related to nuclear weapons or whatever, the safeguarding requirements are the same. It still needs to be in approved storage facilities, still may need to be under constant surveillance in terms of either guards or alarm systems. You need to ensure that only authorized people have access to it.”The Wall Street Journal reported that the FBI's haul from "the southern White House" included 11 sets of classified documents, including some items with information about the president of France.Leonard called the caterwauling over what Trump could and could not declassify while president a “red herring.” Yes, he acknowledged, Trump had broad powers to declassify nearly all intelligence, except when they contained information of nuclear issues, covert operations and operatives, or data sent to the U.S. by a treaty partner.But he doesn’t have the right to leave those papers lying around Mar-a-Lago for anyone to access, especially when the club is a counterintelligence nightmare with horrific security.That, and the Presidential Records Act, is why Leonard felt it was “appropriate for the government to insist on recouping possession.”He noted that most of these situations typically resolve themselves amicably — and clearly, this was not one of those situations. “You revert to the criminal justice system only in the most anomalous or unusual circumstances,” Leonard told NatSec Daily. It’s still unclear why the FBI took such a step, which followed a grand jury subpoena in June.Whatever the reason, the government’s move means it’s more likely now that some government secrets are secured.“I would be surprised that even amongst the unclassified information in the 15 boxes or however many they removed, that there was not classified information that required protection,” Leonard told NatSec Daily before news of the contents of Trump's documents broke.
But the more important aspect, according to a former official who assisted GEORGE W. BUSH's handling of the government's classification system, is the lack of protection of those items.
“Let's say one of those documents was about Bill Leonard and had my social security number on it. The Privacy Act prohibits the disclosure of that information,” said J. WILLIAM LEONARD, who from 2002 to 2008 led the Information Security Oversight Office. “But if you're talking about information related to nuclear weapons or whatever, the safeguarding requirements are the same. It still needs to be in approved storage facilities, still may need to be under constant surveillance in terms of either guards or alarm systems. You need to ensure that only authorized people have access to it.”
The Wall Street Journal reported that the FBI's haul from "the southern White House" included 11 sets of classified documents, including some items with information about the president of France.
Leonard called the caterwauling over what Trump could and could not declassify while president a “red herring.” Yes, he acknowledged, Trump had broad powers to declassify nearly all intelligence, except when they contained information of nuclear issues, covert operations and operatives, or data sent to the U.S. by a treaty partner.
But he doesn’t have the right to leave those papers lying around Mar-a-Lago for anyone to access, especially when the club is a counterintelligence nightmare with horrific security.
That, and the Presidential Records Act, is why Leonard felt it was “appropriate for the government to insist on recouping possession.”
He noted that most of these situations typically resolve themselves amicably — and clearly, this was not one of those situations. “You revert to the criminal justice system only in the most anomalous or unusual circumstances,” Leonard told NatSec Daily. It’s still unclear why the FBI took such a step, which followed a grand jury subpoena in June.
Whatever the reason, the government’s move means it’s more likely now that some government secrets are secured.
“I would be surprised that even amongst the unclassified information in the 15 boxes or however many they removed, that there was not classified information that required protection,” Leonard told NatSec Daily before news of the contents of Trump's documents broke.
― dow, Friday, 12 August 2022 22:19 (one year ago) link
It's "still unclear why the FBI took such a step"?????
― death generator (lukas), Friday, 12 August 2022 23:08 (one year ago) link
It's like the writer had just finished putting together a 500 piece puzzle and spent hours looking for the 501st piece
― We were clothed, except for Caan, who was naked. Don't know why. (Neanderthal), Friday, 12 August 2022 23:27 (one year ago) link
not sure what to make of this: CNN analyst says the intel Trump stole are so sensitive that FBI agents will begin FINGER PRINTING each document to find out who actually touched them
― Andy the Grasshopper, Saturday, 13 August 2022 00:07 (one year ago) link
<Nelson Muntz laugh> is my take
― thinkmanship (sleeve), Saturday, 13 August 2022 00:11 (one year ago) link
Fingerprints are not so reliable; maybe DNA? But then they'd have to get a whole lotta samples---maybe check ancestry.com? Srsly, they've done that in some cases.
xpost Guess Politico scribe was thinking, "Why didn't they just keep negotiating, keeping it all on the paper snail trail, " like we're used to seeing with gov. vs. Mr. T---but, although gov. dude mentioned on CNN this a.m. that the gov. dude who had been leading negotiation was the one who signed go-ahead for this "raid," like somebody had finally had enough---it was not out of the blue, since they'd already taken more boxes the first time, it was just done as quietly as this might have been, if Trump hadn't squawked on Truth: sounds unlikely, but word didn't get around the first time, when he somehow kept mum about it. (I'm sure word got around to some extent somewhere, but not like this.)
― dow, Saturday, 13 August 2022 00:16 (one year ago) link
On the NYT homepage right now.
https://i.imgur.com/4dxBIwb.png
― jaymc, Saturday, 13 August 2022 00:35 (one year ago) link
NYT version of Thread Connections 2022
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Saturday, 13 August 2022 01:06 (one year ago) link
pic.twitter.com/nDeRsKZpem— The Eorzea Mets (@MC_Nietzsche) August 12, 2022
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 13 August 2022 01:23 (one year ago) link
Whoa
― frogbs, Saturday, 13 August 2022 01:29 (one year ago) link
Statement from Trump Office: As we can all relate to, everyone ends up having to bring home their work from time to time… He had a standing order that documents removed from the Oval Office taken to the residence were deemed to be declassified.. pic.twitter.com/pnTjRnOqif— Acyn (@Acyn) August 13, 2022
Lol keep talking moron
― frogbs, Saturday, 13 August 2022 01:33 (one year ago) link
This is the “I said ‘Not it infinity’” defense
― President Keyes, Saturday, 13 August 2022 01:45 (one year ago) link
Nuclear secrets become unsecret when they enter my tacky compound
― Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Saturday, 13 August 2022 02:13 (one year ago) link
Got to admit, I did not foresee psychic declassification on the game card.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 13 August 2022 02:22 (one year ago) link
It's like a child making up new rules to the game as they go along to ensure they keep winning. "Oh, wait, if I'm behind, when I make a basket it's worth twice as many points until I catch up to your score plus one, and then it goes back to normal scoring."https://www.mcgilltribune.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/Sports-1-Brian-Koberlein-Calvinball.jpg
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 13 August 2022 02:25 (one year ago) link
“From the Trump office in Wahoo, Nebraska”
― Mar - a - Lago, or 120 Days of Sodom (Boring, Maryland), Saturday, 13 August 2022 02:44 (one year ago) link
I swear there was some chud on FOX a few years ago saying something like "the President cannot commit any crimes, if he does it then it is by definition not a crime"
― frogbs, Saturday, 13 August 2022 03:02 (one year ago) link
in today's news, rock beat scissors, but then it was time for the bulldozer. bart simpson was also deployed but was handily beaten by the bulldozer. weather on the tens, coming up
― Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Saturday, 13 August 2022 03:15 (one year ago) link
Xpost oh shit someone brought Nixon back to life?
― We were clothed, except for Caan, who was naked. Don't know why. (Neanderthal), Saturday, 13 August 2022 03:53 (one year ago) link
https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/enfuturama/images/2/26/RICHARD_NIXON%27S_HEAD_IN_A_JAR.png/revision/latest?cb=20180216001708
― jaymc, Saturday, 13 August 2022 04:37 (one year ago) link
hey guys remember when Tulsi Gabbard was a democrat
https://theweek.com/tucker-carlson/1015890/tulsi-gabbard-fills-in-on-tucker-carlson-tonight
― We were clothed, except for Caan, who was naked. Don't know why. (Neanderthal), Saturday, 13 August 2022 17:17 (one year ago) link
yeah, I saw that the other day. she's been filling in while tucker tans his balls. i'm trying to imagine the political and psychological journey of some rando 2016 left-leaning voter who decides that tulsi gabbard is the best person to support, and then if they kept supporting her all the way to the present moment.
― Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Saturday, 13 August 2022 17:20 (one year ago) link
The party changed not her
― President Keyes, Saturday, 13 August 2022 17:37 (one year ago) link
Xpost You are basically describing the Jimmy Dore fanbase
― President Keyes, Saturday, 13 August 2022 17:38 (one year ago) link
Tulsi is just another Palin-style raw opportunist, but with a prettier face to exploit.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Saturday, 13 August 2022 17:49 (one year ago) link
I mean, the minute I read in 2016 that she was a Christian, anti-marriage equality individual from Hawai’i , it was pretty evident that she was actually a conservative— all of those types are
― broccoli rabe thomas (the table is the table), Saturday, 13 August 2022 18:05 (one year ago) link
I spent a good 4 years between 2016 and 2020 sharing this the moment any friend or acquaintance got a "she look intersting" vibe about Tulsi. Great reporting by Eoin Higgins: https://www.pastemagazine.com/politics/tulsi-gabbard/tulsi-gabbard-is-not-who-you-think-she-is/
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Saturday, 13 August 2022 18:15 (one year ago) link
that link 404'ed me
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Saturday, 13 August 2022 18:17 (one year ago) link
That link isn’t what you think it is either
― frogbs, Saturday, 13 August 2022 18:20 (one year ago) link
Tulsi Gabbard is hosting “Tucker Carlson,” the predictable end point of a political pivot I called six years agohttps://t.co/QINzvNOigH— ℮oin Higgins (@EoinHiggins_) August 11, 2022
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Saturday, 13 August 2022 18:21 (one year ago) link
― broccoli rabe thomas (the table is the table), Saturday, August 13, 2022 2:05 PM bookmarkflaglink
that's what doesn't make sense to me about the handful of friends I know who are progressive who weirdly endorsed her in 2016. they mostly abandoned her later but it's like she always seemed fucking phony
― We were clothed, except for Caan, who was naked. Don't know why. (Neanderthal), Saturday, 13 August 2022 18:27 (one year ago) link
At least one lawyer for former President Donald J. Trump signed a written statement in June asserting that all material marked as classified and held in boxes in a storage area at Mr. Trump’s Mar-a-Lago residence and club had been returned to the government, four people with knowledge of the document said.The written declaration was made after a visit on June 3 to Mar-a-Lago by Jay I. Bratt, the top counterintelligence official in the Justice Department’s national security division.The existence of the signed declaration, which has not previously been reported, is a possible indication that Mr. Trump or his team were not fully forthcoming with federal investigators about the material. And it could help explain why a potential violation of a criminal statute related to obstruction was cited by the department as one basis for seeking the search warrant used to carry out the daylong search of the former president’s home on Monday, an extraordinary step that generated political shock waves.It also helps to further explain the sequence of events that prompted the Justice Department’s decision to conduct the search after months in which it had tried to resolve the matter through discussions with Mr. Trump and his team....Mr. Trump said on Friday that he had declassified all the material in his possession while he was still in office. He did not provide any documentation that he had done so....n the spring, the Justice Department issued a subpoena to Mr. Trump seeking further documents believed to be in his possession. He was repeatedly urged by advisers to return what remained, despite what they described as his desire to continue to hold onto some documents.In an effort to resolve the dispute, Mr. Bratt and other officials visited Mar-a-Lago in early June, briefly meeting Mr. Trump. Two of Mr. Trump’s lawyers, M. Evan Corcoran and Christina Bobb, spoke with Mr. Bratt and a handful of investigators he traveled with, people briefed on the meeting said....According to two people briefed on the visit, Mr. Bratt and his team left with additional material marked classified, and around that time also obtained the written declaration from a Trump lawyer attesting that all the material marked classified in the boxes had been turned over....The Justice Department also subpoenaed surveillance footage from Mar-a-Lago, including views from outside the storage room. According to a person briefed on the matter, the footage prompted concern among investigators about the handling of the material. It is not clear what time period that footage was from.Over recent months, investigators were in contact with roughly a half-dozen of Mr. Trump’s current aides who had knowledge of how the documents were handled, two people briefed on the approaches said. At least one witness provided the investigators with information that led them to want to further press Mr. Trump formaterial, according to a person familiar with the inquiry.Concern about Mr. Trump’s cavalier handling of classified information dates back to the early days of his administration. When Mr. Trump left office, President Biden quickly took the extraordinary step of barring him from receiving the intelligence briefings traditionally provided to former presidents, saying that Mr. Trump could not be trusted because of his “erratic behavior.”
The written declaration was made after a visit on June 3 to Mar-a-Lago by Jay I. Bratt, the top counterintelligence official in the Justice Department’s national security division.
The existence of the signed declaration, which has not previously been reported, is a possible indication that Mr. Trump or his team were not fully forthcoming with federal investigators about the material. And it could help explain why a potential violation of a criminal statute related to obstruction was cited by the department as one basis for seeking the search warrant used to carry out the daylong search of the former president’s home on Monday, an extraordinary step that generated political shock waves.
It also helps to further explain the sequence of events that prompted the Justice Department’s decision to conduct the search after months in which it had tried to resolve the matter through discussions with Mr. Trump and his team.
...Mr. Trump said on Friday that he had declassified all the material in his possession while he was still in office. He did not provide any documentation that he had done so.
...n the spring, the Justice Department issued a subpoena to Mr. Trump seeking further documents believed to be in his possession. He was repeatedly urged by advisers to return what remained, despite what they described as his desire to continue to hold onto some documents.
In an effort to resolve the dispute, Mr. Bratt and other officials visited Mar-a-Lago in early June, briefly meeting Mr. Trump. Two of Mr. Trump’s lawyers, M. Evan Corcoran and Christina Bobb, spoke with Mr. Bratt and a handful of investigators he traveled with, people briefed on the meeting said.
...According to two people briefed on the visit, Mr. Bratt and his team left with additional material marked classified, and around that time also obtained the written declaration from a Trump lawyer attesting that all the material marked classified in the boxes had been turned over....The Justice Department also subpoenaed surveillance footage from Mar-a-Lago, including views from outside the storage room. According to a person briefed on the matter, the footage prompted concern among investigators about the handling of the material. It is not clear what time period that footage was from.
Over recent months, investigators were in contact with roughly a half-dozen of Mr. Trump’s current aides who had knowledge of how the documents were handled, two people briefed on the approaches said. At least one witness provided the investigators with information that led them to want to further press Mr. Trump formaterial, according to a person familiar with the inquiry.
Concern about Mr. Trump’s cavalier handling of classified information dates back to the early days of his administration. When Mr. Trump left office, President Biden quickly took the extraordinary step of barring him from receiving the intelligence briefings traditionally provided to former presidents, saying that Mr. Trump could not be trusted because of his “erratic behavior.”
― dow, Saturday, 13 August 2022 18:29 (one year ago) link
Trevor Noah Thinks Donald Trump May Be His Own FBI Leak: ‘He’s the King of Snitching on Himself’ (Video)”For all we know, he was bragging about it at the Mar-a-Lago buffet,“ the ”Daily Show“ host said
― dow, Saturday, 13 August 2022 18:35 (one year ago) link
he's the king of blissful snitching
― We were clothed, except for Caan, who was naked. Don't know why. (Neanderthal), Saturday, 13 August 2022 18:38 (one year ago) link
Good one.
― Buckfast At Tiffany's (Tom D.), Saturday, 13 August 2022 18:47 (one year ago) link
https://www.newsweek.com/exclusive-trump-raid-documents-could-reveal-intel-sources-us-payroll-1733230
― StanM, Saturday, 13 August 2022 21:40 (one year ago) link
2 years later
"So Trump sold Intel secrets to China and Russia. So what? The Clintons did it!"
― We were clothed, except for Caan, who was naked. Don't know why. (Neanderthal), Saturday, 13 August 2022 21:43 (one year ago) link
everybody does it
― Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Saturday, 13 August 2022 21:45 (one year ago) link
it's more suspicious if you don't do it, that's who they should be looking into. if you _say_ you don't do it, that is
― Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Saturday, 13 August 2022 21:46 (one year ago) link
Press conference tomorrow to say he found Nicole Brown Simpsons real killer
― We were clothed, except for Caan, who was naked. Don't know why. (Neanderthal), Saturday, 13 August 2022 21:48 (one year ago) link
In pursuing the unprecedented search of Donald Trump's residence on Monday, the FBI was seeking to retrieve Top Secret and "compartmented" documents dealing with intelligence "sources and methods," two federal government sources tell Newsweek—documents with the potential to reveal U.S. intelligence sources, including human sources on the American government payroll.This greatly complicates any public discussion of the documents or any substantiation of Trump's potential violation of U.S. law. The sources, who were briefed on the investigation, requested anonymity in order to discuss sensitive information.Compartmented" is a specific term meaning "classified information concerning or derived from intelligence sources, methods, or analytical processes, which is required to be handled within formal access control systems established by the Director of National Intelligence." It includes a variety of different access categories—for example, human, intercept, satellite sources—each of which limits how many people can know the nature of the compartment. One of the government sources says that "special access program" information was involved in the Mar-a-Lago case, a further category of information limited to an even smaller group of people.In order to prove that this was a matter of national security and essential to be done in this way, some detail on what Trump was keeping will have to be revealed," one intelligence officer, granted anonymity to speak about an ongoing investigation, tells Newsweek. "That might be difficult for the government precisely because of the sensitivity of the documents."...The former president does not have authority to declassify such documents, intelligence sources say, because they are classified under statute rather than by executive order. Trump's possession of those documents and the fact that he was secreting them away came to light in the course of a multi-month federal government investigation that focused on the status of presidential records taken from the White House.
This greatly complicates any public discussion of the documents or any substantiation of Trump's potential violation of U.S. law. The sources, who were briefed on the investigation, requested anonymity in order to discuss sensitive information.Compartmented" is a specific term meaning "classified information concerning or derived from intelligence sources, methods, or analytical processes, which is required to be handled within formal access control systems established by the Director of National Intelligence." It includes a variety of different access categories—for example, human, intercept, satellite sources—each of which limits how many people can know the nature of the compartment. One of the government sources says that "special access program" information was involved in the Mar-a-Lago case, a further category of information limited to an even smaller group of people.In order to prove that this was a matter of national security and essential to be done in this way, some detail on what Trump was keeping will have to be revealed," one intelligence officer, granted anonymity to speak about an ongoing investigation, tells Newsweek. "That might be difficult for the government precisely because of the sensitivity of the documents."...The former president does not have authority to declassify such documents, intelligence sources say, because they are classified under statute rather than by executive order. Trump's possession of those documents and the fact that he was secreting them away came to light in the course of a multi-month federal government investigation that focused on the status of presidential records taken from the White House.
― dow, Saturday, 13 August 2022 21:58 (one year ago) link
again:
...The former president does not have authority to declassify such documents, intelligence sources say, because they are classified under statute rather than by executive order.
― dow, Saturday, 13 August 2022 22:00 (one year ago) link
So as long as they're in that category, they don't have to be (totally?) unredacted for a judge to rule: the statute has been violated or whatever you call it, so he's guilty, prob fined, and hopefully disqualified from running for President again.
― dow, Saturday, 13 August 2022 22:05 (one year ago) link
― broccoli rabe thomas (the table is the table), Saturday, August 13, 2022 2:05 PM (five hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
shes part of some weird hindu cult, theres a good article about it that goes deep into the whole situation
― lag∞n, Saturday, 13 August 2022 23:13 (one year ago) link
i'm in that cult, that's where i met her. she used to be cool
― Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Saturday, 13 August 2022 23:19 (one year ago) link
damn ok right on
― lag∞n, Saturday, 13 August 2022 23:27 (one year ago) link
this is the article I think: https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/11/06/what-does-tulsi-gabbard-believeby Kelefa Sanneh
― symsymsym, Sunday, 14 August 2022 01:08 (one year ago) link
Big Liars have a name for fans of the former president who don't want to overturn democracy: “TINOs” — Trump in Name Only. https://t.co/h9jMJJu1LT— Noah Shachtman (@NoahShachtman) August 14, 2022
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 15 August 2022 00:19 (one year ago) link
https://vz.cnwimg.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/GettyImages-72339295-e1592246469554.jpg
― mookieproof, Monday, 15 August 2022 01:26 (one year ago) link
Karl what is the deal with Science of Identity -- I was ISKCON for years, I note that SoI's guru claims direct disciplic succession from Srila Prabhupada & his bio notes this too, but no talk of when a split from ISKCON happened or what sastra's being invoked to justify a new lineage outside of Prabhupada's own org. Not that there aren't good reasons to split from ISKCON, mind!
― J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Monday, 15 August 2022 01:43 (one year ago) link
this was not true! i thought it was funny to just immediately claim membership in whatever group Tulsi Gabbard is, but I can see how that is neither funny nor interesting. so, no insight on the ISKCON/Science of Identity stuff! (the joy of ilx is i expect someone else probably does though)
― Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Monday, 15 August 2022 02:08 (one year ago) link
also that is a really cursed tino pic mookie lol
― Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Monday, 15 August 2022 02:09 (one year ago) link
(i thought the joke was silly and funny tbh please don't hate me).
― Warning: Choking Hazard (Hunt3r), Monday, 15 August 2022 02:17 (one year ago) link
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FaNKAqlXgAE7wcW?format=png&name=small
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 15 August 2022 15:47 (one year ago) link
So many questions:
is the former president a flight risk? pic.twitter.com/yr8tgKpBjl— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) August 15, 2022
Why does he have two passports? Which country issued the second one? Why was he keeping his multiple passports in the same boxes as the classified shit he had his lawyers falsely swear he didn't have?
― but also fuck you (unperson), Monday, 15 August 2022 18:13 (one year ago) link
US military folks have two passports, one for military use and one for personal use. Wouldn't be surprised if a lot of politicians have similar.
― Jaime Pressly and America (f. hazel), Monday, 15 August 2022 18:16 (one year ago) link
wait, when did they let this fucker back on Twitter?
― thinkmanship (sleeve), Monday, 15 August 2022 18:16 (one year ago) link
they didn't, Truth Social is a Twitter rip off. Note red check instead of blue.
― Jaime Pressly and America (f. hazel), Monday, 15 August 2022 18:18 (one year ago) link
They "stole" his passports :rollseyes:
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 15 August 2022 18:22 (one year ago) link
thank u (xp)
― thinkmanship (sleeve), Monday, 15 August 2022 18:26 (one year ago) link
This feels to me like Trump didn't want to return a bunch of boxes of crap out of spite, and played chicken with their return until some bureaucrat got sick of it and called the cops on him to get them back. That seems more likely to me than Trump planning to sell a burn list to the Saudis or something, but I could be wrong.
― DJI, Monday, 15 August 2022 18:28 (one year ago) link
Agreed that selling info seems like a bridge too far for even him. Seems more likely that he wanted to impress his douchey club friends with fancy documents that he would otherwise never read or understand.
― tobo73, Monday, 15 August 2022 18:31 (one year ago) link
Yeah, but as I understand it a lot of this stuff should never have been there in the first place--the fact that it was taken from its proper location (e.g., the SCIF) is problematic in and of itself and begs the question why and how it ended up in Florida.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 15 August 2022 18:32 (one year ago) link
no need to sell anything directly when you can just have money funneled to jared
― Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Monday, 15 August 2022 18:35 (one year ago) link
ultimately I'm getting the sense it doesn't really matter what he *planned* to do with it, just having it there is a huge fucking deal
that said I don't see why anyone would give him the benefit of the doubt on this, if there's one consistent thing in politics these days it's that if you give Donald Trump the benefit of the doubt on literally anything you'll wind up looking like a fool. often the very next day
― frogbs, Monday, 15 August 2022 18:37 (one year ago) link
Oh, I'm sure he's learned his lesson this time.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 15 August 2022 18:38 (one year ago) link
i am so sick of thinking about this fucker
― a (waterface), Monday, 15 August 2022 18:41 (one year ago) link
OTFM. If he died tomorrow I'd be glad never to give him another thought, unless it was maybe to piss on his grave if I were in the area.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 15 August 2022 18:42 (one year ago) link
This is exactly right. The example I saw on Twitter was a federal employee who took documents home to keep working on them after hours. The FBI came down the chimney and off to prison he went.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Monday, 15 August 2022 18:44 (one year ago) link
Is it a huge deal, though? Not to both-sides it, but did other presidents have boxes of classified stuff at their residences? I'm guessing they probably did. I'm sure that if they did, since they aren't fucking babies like Trump, they would have returned the boxes, when asked.
― DJI, Monday, 15 August 2022 18:45 (one year ago) link
I actually really doubt any of them did, and if they did it's nothing even close to the magnitude of what Trump reportedly had
― frogbs, Monday, 15 August 2022 18:47 (one year ago) link
Is it a huge deal, though? Not to both-sides it, but did other presidents have boxes of classified stuff at their residences? I'm guessing they probably did.
Yes, it's a huge deal. No, other presidents did not do this.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Monday, 15 August 2022 18:48 (one year ago) link
August 2016 pic.twitter.com/6Fg3sq00CW— andrew kaczynski (@KFILE) August 15, 2022
Ex-presidents do normally continue to get security briefings. Biden suspended Trump's because the latter is such a security risk. I doubt you'd find another ex-president who had the kind of stuff that Trump apparently had, though. As I understand it, the "SCI" stuff in particular normally does not leave its secure location.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 15 August 2022 18:50 (one year ago) link
the person who keeps coming to mind is General Petraeus, someone who really was just fucking around with classified info, but in the end that didn't matter. maybe its true that Trump wasn't planning to do anything with it, much like it could be true that "very fine people on both sides" was actually just referring to those who showed up early to express their enthusiasm for Civil War statues. or that "grab 'em by the pussy" was just something he pulled out of thin air to impress Billy Bush. but it's also true that Trump & his organization has a lot of well-documented shady dealings with hostile nations and that he has zero respect whatsoever for the law or the interests of America itself so
― frogbs, Monday, 15 August 2022 18:51 (one year ago) link
He has something like $800 million in loans coming due, and an inability to separate the public interest from his own.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 15 August 2022 18:53 (one year ago) link
No, other presidents did not do this.
Source?
― DJI, Monday, 15 August 2022 18:53 (one year ago) link
I'm not asking about KEEPING stuff, just about taking it to their homes while they were president.
― DJI, Monday, 15 August 2022 18:55 (one year ago) link
another thing is that Trump had basically no interest in this stuff while he was actually President, in fact the people briefing him literally had to dumb it down to a 5th grade level in order to get him to even pay attention. but now Kushner gets this insane, nonsensical $2 billion deal from the Saudis and suddenly he's stealing boxes of it? idk man pretty sus
― frogbs, Monday, 15 August 2022 18:58 (one year ago) link
c'mon, this FBI raid business is so last week
Full story from Washington Post:https://t.co/GmkJaQ5RPM— Tristan Snell (@TristanSnell) August 15, 2022
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Monday, 15 August 2022 19:01 (one year ago) link
It seems likely to me that within days of being sworn in that Trump went through as much classified information as he could (or directed that his trusted lackeys do so) in order to monetize as much of it as possible. It defies belief, in fact, that he wouldn't do exactly that. He took all the valuable stuff to Mar-a-Lago because he quite reasonably inferred that he would never face any consequences for doing so, since he's never gotten in real trouble for anything in his entire life. And here we are.
― Jaime Pressly and America (f. hazel), Monday, 15 August 2022 19:02 (one year ago) link
Prolly not, but I hope there's a way that they can determine if those documents have been scanned or photographed while they were in his possession.
― henry s, Monday, 15 August 2022 19:04 (one year ago) link
Well, they were secured by a padlock. Eventually.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 15 August 2022 19:07 (one year ago) link
dont forget the Trump DC hotel which was about to go under until he won, at which point he used it to conduct official government business at insane markups
― frogbs, Monday, 15 August 2022 19:10 (one year ago) link
Trump models himself on a mafia don. Whatever he had in mind by keeping those documents, you can be sure he thought he could use them to increase his power or to make money.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Monday, 15 August 2022 19:15 (one year ago) link
Knowledge *is* power. He was already very smart and knew almost everything, which made him very powerful, but now these boxes of classified shit have taught him so much more, making him even more powerful! No one will be laughing when he completes his secret nuclear missile silo base below Mar a Lago. And when he starts wearing an eye patch we will know he has reached his final Emilio Largo form.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 15 August 2022 19:21 (one year ago) link
for DJI
Can a president legally remove declassified information from the White House?No, according to security experts. There are other laws that protect the country’s most sensitive secrets beyond how it is classified. For example, according to Aftergood, some of the intelligence and documents related to nuclear weapons can’t be declassified by the president. Aftergood said such information is protected by a different law, the Atomic Energy Act.
Another law — called “gathering, transmitting or losing defense information” — states it is illegal to remove documents related to national security from their proper place if it could risk the security of the country, no matter the classification level of the information.
“The classification is just one piece of the picture,” Aftergood said. There are other protections in the law that can make disclosure or unauthorized retention problematic or even criminal.
Removing certain property and documents from the White House would also violate the Presidential Records Act, which requires presidents to preserve official records during their time in office. The act says that records from a presidency are public property and do not belong to the president or the White House team. Violating the records act would be a civil, not a criminal, offense.
― a (waterface), Monday, 15 August 2022 19:42 (one year ago) link
Who can access classified information?Government workers and contractors must go through background checks to receive the necessary clearance to access classified information. The more sensitive the information, the more arduous the background check process a person would need to pass to get clearance. There is certain classified information that thousands of people can access. For other information, only a handful of people have the necessary clearance levels to access it. The president would have access to every document and all intelligence information.
Some workers have to sign nondisclosure agreements when they leave the government to ensure they do not discuss the secret information they had access to while on the job, said Javed Ali, a senior official at the National Security Council during the Trump administration who now teaches at the University of Michigan.
“You go through serious levels of background checks to get a clearance, and not everyone passes,” Ali said. “You want people who can be trusted with this sensitive information and do the right thing.”
from this
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2022/08/13/trump-warrant-classified-answers/
feel like Trump's passports getting seized is a pretty big deal
― frogbs, Monday, 15 August 2022 20:20 (one year ago) link
to say nothing of his apes
― nashwan, Monday, 15 August 2022 20:25 (one year ago) link
xp provided he's not lying, obv
― Bait Kush (Eric H.), Monday, 15 August 2022 20:44 (one year ago) link
I get that presidents aren't SUPPOSED to take documents out of the white house. I just want to understand if they DID take stuff from the white house, before Trump.
― DJI, Monday, 15 August 2022 21:14 (one year ago) link
I can imagine presidents taking classified docs from the white house when they go to their other homes (e.g. Nixon's western white house) but these trips would be accompanied by secret service people keeping the docs secure en route and at their final destination.
― nickn, Monday, 15 August 2022 21:25 (one year ago) link
don't they have library cards
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 15 August 2022 21:50 (one year ago) link
― (grim) pump track (wales) (map), Monday, 15 August 2022 22:13 (one year ago) link
When it comes to destroying everything he touches, Classic.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 15 August 2022 22:15 (one year ago) link
i had a dream last night that I was at Mar A Lago, like moving furniture or something and trying to avoid meeting Trump and that the tv was on and it was announcing that Sean Hannity had been killedi don’t want to dream about these people!ugh
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 15 August 2022 22:26 (one year ago) link
i've probably mentioned the time i got within 5 feet of trump and failed to scream "YA JACKASS!!!!" at him. it was in 2012-13 or so, in DC. i often got lunch at the food court at the bottom of the old post office pavilion, the one Trump bought and turned into a corruption machine for visiting diplomats. it was known that he was thinking of buying the place, so it wasn't an enormous surprise to see him and a small entourage walk by. i wish i would have known what a gigantic fucking asshole he is, i would have pushed him into a fryer
― Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Monday, 15 August 2022 22:31 (one year ago) link
You would have saved us all a lot of grief, Karl.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 15 August 2022 22:33 (one year ago) link
i knew he was an asshole, but he was also, i thought, permanently shamed at that point for having led the Birther movement for several years. it's so weird that, even now, the story of trump's rise politically is basically that he wanted to do it for many years but struggled to come up with the most racist strategy possible. once he hit on it, he was unstoppable
― Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Monday, 15 August 2022 22:35 (one year ago) link
the good white evangelicals of america just could not get enough of this wonderful man
― Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Monday, 15 August 2022 22:36 (one year ago) link
I thought his call during the campaign for a Muslim ban would have ended him. Instead it boosted him.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 15 August 2022 22:38 (one year ago) link
I had like 1000 of those moments. I still have those fucking moments, it’s awful
― Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Monday, 15 August 2022 22:40 (one year ago) link
I talked to him on a call-in radio show once, probably late 90s. He was plugging some stupid memoir, and I chided him for saying that he regretted never getting a chance to date Princess Diana before her death. To my surprise, he took the criticism well and said others had told him the same thing
He used to be different - more articulate maybe, also a hint of self-deprecation (on Howard Stern, for example) that is just completely gone now... everything is just 'really bad' now
― Andy the Grasshopper, Monday, 15 August 2022 22:53 (one year ago) link
Don't get me wrong, he's always been a complete fucking tool, but it seems like his vocabulary has shrunk considerably
― Andy the Grasshopper, Monday, 15 August 2022 22:54 (one year ago) link
TRUMP: "By copy of this TRUTH, I respectfully request that these documents be immediately returned to the location from which they were taken. Thank you!" pic.twitter.com/oD1tGbpjOl— Benny Johnson (@bennyjohnson) August 14, 2022
― Beautiful Bean Footage Fetishist (Old Lunch), Monday, 15 August 2022 23:37 (one year ago) link
He DID run all of US foreign and domestic policy through twitter decrees, so maybe he thinks that's how it works.
― DJI, Monday, 15 August 2022 23:38 (one year ago) link
NEW: According to a DOJ official, the FBI is NOT in possession of former President Trump's passports. Trump had accused the FBI of stealing his three passports during the search of his Mar-a-Lago home.— Norah O'Donnell 🇺🇸 (@NorahODonnell) August 15, 2022
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 15 August 2022 23:43 (one year ago) link
It’s always the last place you look (between your ass cheeks, where the last world war went)
― Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Monday, 15 August 2022 23:45 (one year ago) link
Supposedly they had them but gave them back, which is the lie of the century per Republithugs
― We were clothed, except for Caan, who was naked. Don't know why. (Neanderthal), Monday, 15 August 2022 23:50 (one year ago) link
i will never get over "ReTruths"
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Tuesday, 16 August 2022 00:08 (one year ago) link
^best Expose song
― We were clothed, except for Caan, who was naked. Don't know why. (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 16 August 2022 00:14 (one year ago) link
ReTruth, ReJustice, and the ReTrumpian Way
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 16 August 2022 00:29 (one year ago) link
^and now we're on to Sacred Reich
― We were clothed, except for Caan, who was naked. Don't know why. (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 16 August 2022 00:45 (one year ago) link
Since posting that Newsweek (!) piece upthread, incl. that the recovered docs incl. a category that can't be declassified by a President, I've seen the statute for that category referenced elsewhere online---CNN and MSNBC's TV talking heads still seem a bit unemphatic about it---I suppose Trump might say he didn't know about that, and lawyers/staff shoulda told him, although some reports indicate that he was warned by somebody inside to give all this stuff back forthwith---speaking that word, and re what previous Presidents did, although that shouldn't determine what happens in this case---take a look in this time lens, my friends at a ruling I'm starting to hear more about, which led me to:
Court Orders Nixon to Yield Tapes; President Promises to Comply FullyJustices Reject Privilege Claim in 8-to-0 RulingBy John P. MacKenzieWashington Post Staff WriterThursday, July 25, 1974; Page A01The Supreme Court ruled yesterday unanimously, and definitively, that President Nixon must turn over tape recordings of White House conversations needed by the Watergate special prosecutor for the trial of the President's highest aides.Ordering compliance with a trial subpoena "forthwith," the court rejected Mr. Nixon's broad claims of unreviewable executive privilege and said they "must yield to the demonstrated, specific need for evidence in a pending criminal trial."The President said he was "disappointed" by the decision but said he would comply. His lawyer said the time-consuming process of collecting and indexing the tapes would begin immediately.Chief Justice Warren E. Burger delivered the historic judgment in a packed and hushed courtroom. His 31-page opinion drew heavily on both the great cases of the court's past, as well as the pro-prosecution edicts of a court dominated by Nixon appointees.Only a few times in its history has the court grappled with such large assertions of governmental power. As in most of those encounters, the justices concluded that the judiciary must have the last word in an orderly constitutional system even though its view of the Constitution is "at variance with the construction given the document by another branch."Brushing aside warnings by presidential lawyer James D. St. Clair that it was in an impeachment thicket, the court handed down its 8-to-0 ruling hours before the House Judiciary Committee was scheduled to open debate on proposed articles of impeachment.One justice, William H. Rehnquist, disqualified himself because of his previous association with former Attorney General John N. Mitchell in the Justice Department.
By John P. MacKenzieWashington Post Staff WriterThursday, July 25, 1974; Page A01
The Supreme Court ruled yesterday unanimously, and definitively, that President Nixon must turn over tape recordings of White House conversations needed by the Watergate special prosecutor for the trial of the President's highest aides.
Ordering compliance with a trial subpoena "forthwith," the court rejected Mr. Nixon's broad claims of unreviewable executive privilege and said they "must yield to the demonstrated, specific need for evidence in a pending criminal trial."
The President said he was "disappointed" by the decision but said he would comply. His lawyer said the time-consuming process of collecting and indexing the tapes would begin immediately.
Chief Justice Warren E. Burger delivered the historic judgment in a packed and hushed courtroom. His 31-page opinion drew heavily on both the great cases of the court's past, as well as the pro-prosecution edicts of a court dominated by Nixon appointees.
Only a few times in its history has the court grappled with such large assertions of governmental power. As in most of those encounters, the justices concluded that the judiciary must have the last word in an orderly constitutional system even though its view of the Constitution is "at variance with the construction given the document by another branch."
Brushing aside warnings by presidential lawyer James D. St. Clair that it was in an impeachment thicket, the court handed down its 8-to-0 ruling hours before the House Judiciary Committee was scheduled to open debate on proposed articles of impeachment.
One justice, William H. Rehnquist, disqualified himself because of his previous association with former Attorney General John N. Mitchell in the Justice Department.
― dow, Tuesday, 16 August 2022 01:04 (one year ago) link
This goes with comments by some legal experts that the famously cautious Garland could have invoked one of the three laws he cited, in ordering the retrieval---but having those three laws involved indicates that he was thinking of (at least possible)indictments---so the Nixon ruling is starting to come up as basis for the way documents have been handled---even by presidents, as well as ex-president---before now.
― dow, Tuesday, 16 August 2022 01:12 (one year ago) link
famously cautious garland walking in bare feet on the sharp lawn blades, going "ow! ooooowwwwww!"
― Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 16 August 2022 01:14 (one year ago) link
It's mind-blowing that this is in reference to an investigation of a former president and not a mobster:
NEW: DOJ is also worried the release of the FBI affidavit underlying the Mar-a-Lago search would "chill future cooperation" by witnesess — particularly when threats related to Trump probe are "not merely a hypothetical concern."https://t.co/TUnPlXWRZY pic.twitter.com/oOdKaycXnr— Kyle Cheney (@kyledcheney) August 15, 2022
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 16 August 2022 02:50 (one year ago) link
future cooperation is so chilled
― Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 16 August 2022 02:57 (one year ago) link
Witness and chill.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 16 August 2022 02:59 (one year ago) link
I have to suppose at this point that anyone who publicly turns on Trump is going to at least have a few armed crazies wandering around their neighborhood looking at house numbers
― President Keyes, Tuesday, 16 August 2022 14:35 (one year ago) link
liz cheney canceled her campaign events (not that she had much of a chance at winning anyway) because of threats
― Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 16 August 2022 14:55 (one year ago) link
hope she runs for President just to fuck over Trump
― Jaime Pressly and America (f. hazel), Tuesday, 16 August 2022 14:59 (one year ago) link
she doesn't seem to be very effective at convincing other conservative republicans, unfortunately. but yes, it would be nice to have at least a couple republicans run for president who aren't full on fascists, just to stir the cup a little and see what happens
― Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 16 August 2022 15:16 (one year ago) link
(yes, i know her last name is cheney)
part of the general disappointment of this era is "rooting" for people like liz cheney, paired with joe biden somehow becoming the president of the united states even though, up until the establishment rallied around him to defeat bernie, i have never heard anyone in my life say that they would like to be president. that sentence is grammatically horrible and i don't care
― Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 16 August 2022 15:21 (one year ago) link
i guess i do care. about the grammar and also about the banality of what i said. people always are greatly disappointed with the president. people always find themselves rooting for lower-level villain to defeat a high-ranking one
― Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 16 August 2022 15:23 (one year ago) link
Um, not to be a dick, but define, "people." Liz Cheney and her entire family should be burnt at the stake in front of an audience of the Iraqi people, end of story, fuck them forever.
― broccoli rabe thomas (the table is the table), Tuesday, 16 August 2022 16:36 (one year ago) link
Like maybe "reasonable" people root for the lesser of two evils, but "reasonable" people have gotten us where we are, so fuck being reasonable.
― broccoli rabe thomas (the table is the table), Tuesday, 16 August 2022 16:37 (one year ago) link
wait do we fuck them or burn them
― nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Tuesday, 16 August 2022 17:01 (one year ago) link
burnpit iirc
― Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 16 August 2022 17:07 (one year ago) link
Table otm. The media narrative being pushed, that Liz is somehow a "good" Republican for speaking out against Jan. 6, when she previously voted with Trump's agenda 93% of the time, is horseshit.
― Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 16 August 2022 17:15 (one year ago) link
No GOP politician from the last 40 or 50 years deserves any revisionist rehabilitation
― Weltanschauung Dunston (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 16 August 2022 17:27 (one year ago) link
People are neither wholly good nor wholly bad. Their specific intentions, actions and consequences are a bit easier to categorize that way. In the case of Liz Cheney, she's got plenty of bad intentions, actions and consequences, but I'm not going to fault her for bashing Trump and the insurrection he fomented. That's one to her credit.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 16 August 2022 17:31 (one year ago) link
I agree they don't but whatever anti-Trump movement exists within the GOP is still very important considering they have to win every election by the seat of their pants
― frogbs, Tuesday, 16 August 2022 17:34 (one year ago) link
i'm annoyed but mainly at myself
― Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 16 August 2022 17:44 (one year ago) link
― broccoli rabe thomas (the table is the table), Tuesday, 16 August 2022 18:09 (one year ago) link
speaker for the dead
― President Keyes, Tuesday, 16 August 2022 18:11 (one year ago) link
she can be a bad person but also the specific thing that she is doing re:jan 6th is good. both things can be true.
― nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Tuesday, 16 August 2022 18:29 (one year ago) link
^^^
― Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 16 August 2022 18:35 (one year ago) link
Nope, you're still missing it. Cheney is a bad person, actively evil, in fact, much like her father, but she is narrowly useful right now. The Democrats need to hold onto the House; work with Cheney on this one issue while she's willing to work with them; and render her irrelevant once again as soon as possible.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 16 August 2022 18:53 (one year ago) link
Y’all would defend Kissinger if he was on the Jan 6th committee.
― broccoli rabe thomas (the table is the table), Tuesday, 16 August 2022 19:46 (one year ago) link
you do realize that the kind of thinking you're indulging in here is indistinguishable from the very popular "lock up every criminal in solitary confinement and throw away the key" school of thought, don't you?
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 16 August 2022 19:50 (one year ago) link
table has the moral high ground, you know. Since we all agreed with the invasion of Iraq and he didn't.
― President Keyes, Tuesday, 16 August 2022 19:52 (one year ago) link
sounds like you do think it is nbd in the grand scheme of things
― Left, Tuesday, 16 August 2022 19:56 (one year ago) link
Liz Cheney and her entire family should be burnt at the stake in front of an audience of the Iraqi people
That's a bit medieval, isn't it? Dick is certainly a war criminal, but does Liz bear any responsibility for her father's crimes? She may have her own to answer for, but she wasn't even in Congress until 2017. Back in the mid-aughts, she was a mid-level State Department official. (She was part of a group formed to pressure Iran and Syria, which was disbanded in 2007 when the Bushies wanted to try to make peace with those two countries.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 16 August 2022 20:13 (one year ago) link
I just don’t think there’s anything redeemable about Liz Cheney, and quite frankly don’t give a fuck about the “good work” she’s done on the January 6th committee. She’s a fascist.Aimless, I’m not a Kantian, so what I think about the genocidal Cheney family has little bearing on what I think about even the most violent “criminals” in the US justice system. Your gotcha moments are tiresome precisely because they fail to recognize context, and instead rely on false syllogism to buoy their reasoning.
― broccoli rabe thomas (the table is the table), Tuesday, 16 August 2022 20:16 (one year ago) link
Your gotcha moments are tiresome precisely because they fail to recognize context
right. the context here is your personal judgement operating on a case-by-case basis. For example, your expressed judgment is that every member of the Cheney family should be burnt at the stake. But, if I were to draw from that statement the conclusion that you favor the death penalty I can see I'd be 'relying on a false syllogism'. You am what you am.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 16 August 2022 21:47 (one year ago) link
im no philosopher but seems to me it could be useful & maybe even healthy to find a way to talk about politics without indulging in so many hyper violent torture/murder fantasies but ymmv
― nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Tuesday, 16 August 2022 21:54 (one year ago) link
I think very deeply
― President Keyes, Tuesday, 16 August 2022 22:13 (one year ago) link
How do we talk about people who aided and abetted genocide under completely false pretenses? It might be crass or a rejection of Christ-like logic of turning the other cheek to ask for their heads, but perhaps the fact that genocidaires continue to live comfortable and lovely lives insulated from violence and criticism should also be considered.
― broccoli rabe thomas (the table is the table), Tuesday, 16 August 2022 23:49 (one year ago) link
Posting this for no reason whatsoever
SIERRA ADAMSON: “That’s an American citizen that’s being targeted without due process of law, without trial. And he’s underage. He’s a minor.”ROBERT GIBBS: “I would suggest that you should have a far more responsible father.
― President Keyes, Wednesday, 17 August 2022 00:05 (one year ago) link
table literally everyone in this thread agrees that liz cheney is bad, a couple posters remarked that it would be good if the jan 6 comittee which she is a part of contributed to stopping trump, youve spent the entire day fulminating that people itt are trying to rehabilitate her or insulate her from criticism which literally nobody is doing and its tedious, we all hate liz cheney but ok you hate her in the best most violent & correct way, can we please move on now
― nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Wednesday, 17 August 2022 00:23 (one year ago) link
I don’t get the impression that everyone thinks she is bad, which is why I keep being a tedious asshole, but I’ll stop now.
― broccoli rabe thomas (the table is the table), Wednesday, 17 August 2022 00:34 (one year ago) link
A primary loss for Cheney is a win for Trump and his personal brand of vindictive cancel culture, it’s as simple as that. I don’t want to see Trump have a reason to celebrate anything at all.
― epistantophus, Wednesday, 17 August 2022 01:43 (one year ago) link
Although I must admit I am glad that he focuses so much more on redressing personal slights than on doing anything at all to advance the goals of the GOP.
― epistantophus, Wednesday, 17 August 2022 01:51 (one year ago) link
Yeesh. https://t.co/U7AfNgpT4d pic.twitter.com/46R2JqVEEJ— southpaw (@nycsouthpaw) August 17, 2022
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 17 August 2022 13:08 (one year ago) link
You finish “Breaking History” wondering: Who is this book for? There’s not enough red meat for the MAGA crowd, and Kushner has never appealed to them anyway. Political wonks will be interested — maybe, to a limited degree — but this material is more thoroughly and reliably covered elsewhere. He’s a pair of dimples without a demographic.What a queasy-making book to have in your hands. Once someone has happily worked alongside one of the most flagrant and systematic and powerful liars in this country’s history, how can anyone be expected to believe a word they say?It makes a kind of sense that Kushner is likely to remain exiled in Florida. “The whole peninsula of Florida was weighted down with regret,” as Cynthia Ozick put it in “The Shawl.” “Everyone had left behind a real life.”
What a queasy-making book to have in your hands. Once someone has happily worked alongside one of the most flagrant and systematic and powerful liars in this country’s history, how can anyone be expected to believe a word they say?
It makes a kind of sense that Kushner is likely to remain exiled in Florida. “The whole peninsula of Florida was weighted down with regret,” as Cynthia Ozick put it in “The Shawl.” “Everyone had left behind a real life.”
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 17 August 2022 13:09 (one year ago) link
https://s.wsj.net/public/resources/images/RV-AP784_BKRVFD_M_20150312122211.jpg
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 17 August 2022 13:10 (one year ago) link
which one is Kushner?
― rob, Wednesday, 17 August 2022 13:25 (one year ago) link
He's the chair.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 17 August 2022 13:29 (one year ago) link
Word gets around eventually...
Former president Donald Trump and close aides have spent the eight days since the FBI searched his Florida home rushing to assemble a team of respected defense lawyers. But the answer they keep hearing is “no.”The struggle to find expert legal advice puts Trump in a bind as he faces potential criminal exposure from a records dispute with the National Archives that escalated into a federal investigation into possible violations of the Espionage Act and other statutes.“Everyone is saying no,” said a prominent Republican lawyer, who like some others spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss confidential conversations....Ordinarily, the prestige and publicity of representing a former president, as well as the new and complex legal issues at stake in this case, would attract high-powered attorneys. But Trump’s search is being hampered by his divisiveness, as well as his reputation for stiffing vendors and ignoring advice.“In olden days, he would tell firms representing him was a benefit because they could advertise off it. Today it’s not the same,” said Michael Cohen, a former lawyer for Trump who was convicted of tax evasion, false statements, campaign finance violations and lying to Congress in 2018. “He’s also a very difficult client in that he’s always pushing the envelope, he rarely listens to sound legal advice, and he wants you to do things that are not appropriate, ethically or legally.”One lawyer told a story from early in Trump’s presidency of his legal team urging him against tweeting about the Mueller probe, only to find he’d tweeted about it before they got to the end of the West Wing driveway. Several people said Trump was nearly impossible to represent and that it would be unclear if they would ever get paid.
The struggle to find expert legal advice puts Trump in a bind as he faces potential criminal exposure from a records dispute with the National Archives that escalated into a federal investigation into possible violations of the Espionage Act and other statutes.
“Everyone is saying no,” said a prominent Republican lawyer, who like some others spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss confidential conversations.
Ordinarily, the prestige and publicity of representing a former president, as well as the new and complex legal issues at stake in this case, would attract high-powered attorneys. But Trump’s search is being hampered by his divisiveness, as well as his reputation for stiffing vendors and ignoring advice.
“In olden days, he would tell firms representing him was a benefit because they could advertise off it. Today it’s not the same,” said Michael Cohen, a former lawyer for Trump who was convicted of tax evasion, false statements, campaign finance violations and lying to Congress in 2018. “He’s also a very difficult client in that he’s always pushing the envelope, he rarely listens to sound legal advice, and he wants you to do things that are not appropriate, ethically or legally.”
One lawyer told a story from early in Trump’s presidency of his legal team urging him against tweeting about the Mueller probe, only to find he’d tweeted about it before they got to the end of the West Wing driveway. Several people said Trump was nearly impossible to represent and that it would be unclear if they would ever get paid.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 17 August 2022 14:49 (one year ago) link
Reynal is probably game.
― Chyiv Kyiv (Fetchboy), Wednesday, 17 August 2022 14:56 (one year ago) link
What lawyer wouldn't want a client who doesn't pay for advice he doesn't pay attention to? Oh, and one who will destroy your career and reputation.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 17 August 2022 14:56 (one year ago) link
Sounds like a job for Giuliani & Powell, LLC!
― nickn, Wednesday, 17 August 2022 16:19 (one year ago) link
Please let this go to trial, please let Rudy and Sidney represent him, please please oh please
― Beautiful Bean Footage Fetishist (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 17 August 2022 17:04 (one year ago) link
Go to trial? I doubt there’s even going to be charges.
― doomposting is the new composting (PBKR), Wednesday, 17 August 2022 18:09 (one year ago) link
*wriggle
― Evan, Wednesday, 17 August 2022 18:47 (one year ago) link
Source confirms Allen Weisselberg will implicate the Trump Organization and Trump Payroll Corp when he pleads guilty to criminal tax fraud charges in the morning — and he will agree to testify against them at trial in October if called as a witness. https://t.co/c7HCjwfm0n— Molly Crane-Newman (@molcranenewman) August 17, 2022
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 17 August 2022 20:58 (one year ago) link
the move by the AG to drop the investigation into Trump looking stupider by the day
― frogbs, Wednesday, 17 August 2022 21:00 (one year ago) link
(DA) otm
― bulb after bulb, Wednesday, 17 August 2022 21:41 (one year ago) link
CNN says just the opposite:
(CNN)The former chief financial officer of the Trump Organization is expected to plead guilty Thursday to a 15-year tax fraud scheme, but he will not enter into a cooperation agreement to aid New York prosecutors in their criminal investigation of the real estate companies' finances, a person familiar with the matter said.
― Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 17 August 2022 22:09 (one year ago) link
my read was that if he pleads guilty 'without cooperation' he can't take the 5th when he's later subpoenaed to testify, and that that was the agreement reached
― Dan S, Wednesday, 17 August 2022 22:32 (one year ago) link
Daily Mail says he is gonna plead guilty & testify in exchange for a greatly reduced sentence - 100 days vs up to 15 years
Can't blame him
― Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 17 August 2022 22:40 (one year ago) link
From Newsweek daily bulletin:
FBI Sought Russiagate Files and Trump’s Personal Stash of Hidden DocumentsTL/DR: "We've still got to unpack all of these terms—nuclear, espionage, classified—so the public understands. That will be tricky because the issues and technicalities are in fact extremely complicated,” one official told Newsweek.The FBI's raid on Mar-a-Lago was intended to recover Donald Trump's personal "stash" of hidden documents, two high-level U.S. intelligence officials told Newsweek. While some of the intelligence documents might have dealt with nuclear weapons, the classification level was not the main focus. "Trump kept documents that interested him," one official said, "sometimes Iranian or North Korean nukes, sometimes Ukraine or Russia, some foreign leaders." But the Justice feared that Trump might "weaponize" the information."Trump was particularly interested in matters related to the Russia hoax and the wrong-doings of the deep state," an ex-Trump official says. Trump may have been planning to use them as part of a 2024 run for the presidency. The FBI were also after documents that they felt the former president had no intention to return," said an official. Trump said the FBI broke into his personal safe. The two officials agree that the private cache was located separately from the storage room that contained the 11 sets of documents that were the bulk of what the FBI retrieved.What happens now? Several Trump supporters have lashed out at the Justice Department’s decision to oppose the release of an affidavit supporting the search warrant. It’s “hard for people to understand” that classification was not the focus, one of the officials said. "It is Donald Trump's potential law-breaking that is the focus… Justice was alarmed that Trump was planning to keep his possession secret," the official said. The other official said that it is what authorities knew (or believed) about Trump's plans that prompted the search now. But the official, who is confident that the search was legally valid, questions whether it was the smartest move.Deeper reading: FBI Sought Documents Trump Hoarded for Years, Including about Russiagate
TL/DR: "We've still got to unpack all of these terms—nuclear, espionage, classified—so the public understands. That will be tricky because the issues and technicalities are in fact extremely complicated,” one official told Newsweek.
The FBI's raid on Mar-a-Lago was intended to recover Donald Trump's personal "stash" of hidden documents, two high-level U.S. intelligence officials told Newsweek. While some of the intelligence documents might have dealt with nuclear weapons, the classification level was not the main focus. "Trump kept documents that interested him," one official said, "sometimes Iranian or North Korean nukes, sometimes Ukraine or Russia, some foreign leaders." But the Justice feared that Trump might "weaponize" the information.
"Trump was particularly interested in matters related to the Russia hoax and the wrong-doings of the deep state," an ex-Trump official says. Trump may have been planning to use them as part of a 2024 run for the presidency. The FBI were also after documents that they felt the former president had no intention to return," said an official. Trump said the FBI broke into his personal safe. The two officials agree that the private cache was located separately from the storage room that contained the 11 sets of documents that were the bulk of what the FBI retrieved.
What happens now? Several Trump supporters have lashed out at the Justice Department’s decision to oppose the release of an affidavit supporting the search warrant. It’s “hard for people to understand” that classification was not the focus, one of the officials said. "It is Donald Trump's potential law-breaking that is the focus… Justice was alarmed that Trump was planning to keep his possession secret," the official said. The other official said that it is what authorities knew (or believed) about Trump's plans that prompted the search now. But the official, who is confident that the search was legally valid, questions whether it was the smartest move.
Deeper reading: FBI Sought Documents Trump Hoarded for Years, Including about Russiagate
― dow, Thursday, 18 August 2022 00:41 (one year ago) link
"Trump was particularly interested in matters related to the Russia hoax and the wrong-doings of the deep state," an ex-Trump official says.
I mean isn't this just the next way they'll lie about the investigation? That Trump was holding on to the materials to justify his arguments about the deep state?
I wish the fucker was dead.
― politics is about vibes and the vibes are off (stevie), Thursday, 18 August 2022 09:41 (one year ago) link
I can’t read Newsweek. It shows up but the words physically blend together. I then export the single mass of words as a cube of extra firm tofu and enjoy it with chipotle sauce
― Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Thursday, 18 August 2022 13:10 (one year ago) link
― politics is about vibes and the vibes are off (stevie), Thursday, August 18, 2022 5:41 AM (three hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
he shouldve died of the virus, we were robbed
― lag∞n, Thursday, 18 August 2022 13:17 (one year ago) link
Good chance if that had happened then Pence would have won, and would you want that?
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 18 August 2022 14:02 (one year ago) link
we cant all be political consultants, someones got to want the enemies dead
― lag∞n, Thursday, 18 August 2022 14:09 (one year ago) link
i don't think Pence would have won, he has the personality of a damp sock
― a (waterface), Thursday, 18 August 2022 14:15 (one year ago) link
A month out from the election, Pence delivers nice eulogistic noises to keep MAGA on board, Trump-hesitant GOPers feel comfortable about voting for the GOP again ("he won't embarrass us"), I think it might have been enough in the closest states.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 18 August 2022 14:21 (one year ago) link
I'm not saying I would have WANTED it to happen, but.
The Supreme Court fix would have been in by that point regardless, Ginsburg passed in mid-September.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 18 August 2022 14:22 (one year ago) link
I sincerely doubt Pence would have won. MAGA folk voted for Trump, not him. lot of the may have still voted, a lot of them would have lost their motivation.
not to mention the whole fiasco of how to get his name on the ballot that late would have been tricky.
― Weltanschauung Dunston (Neanderthal), Thursday, 18 August 2022 14:39 (one year ago) link
in general you don't want your party's candidate dying the month before a Presidential election, is how I break things down to an extent.
though for state legislative races, sometimes it doesn't matter lol
― Weltanschauung Dunston (Neanderthal), Thursday, 18 August 2022 14:41 (one year ago) link
It its intersting to speculate whether folx in another reality would have turned out in sufficient numbers to elect a dude who, in our reality, they wanted to see dead less than two months later.
― Beautiful Bean Footage Fetishist (Old Lunch), Thursday, 18 August 2022 14:43 (one year ago) link
honestly don't think a "sane" Romney or McCain type Republican is ever gonna win again in my lifetime. I think Pence would've gotten crushed.
― frogbs, Thursday, 18 August 2022 14:49 (one year ago) link
xp never forget
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/missouri-elects-dead-man-as-senator-623222.html
― Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Thursday, 18 August 2022 14:50 (one year ago) link
THIS time, Charlie Brown
The moment has finally arrived when Lindell is going to change the world by presenting 12 hours of “evidence” on Sat and 12 more on Sunday to hundreds of millions of viewers on Lindell TV: “I’m telling you everybody, it’s over for them!” pic.twitter.com/CLmRfaJIkm— Ron Filipkowski 🇺🇦 (@RonFilipkowski) August 18, 2022
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 18 August 2022 16:43 (one year ago) link
get your pillows ready
― StanM, Thursday, 18 August 2022 16:46 (one year ago) link
Who knew Mike Lindell would be the next slow cinema titan?
― Bait Kush (Eric H.), Thursday, 18 August 2022 16:51 (one year ago) link
Is it Pay per View? Should be. Vince McMahon needs some work.
Re: voters, I think we all tend to overestimate the level of engagement of the general public. I saw an interview with one of the Alex Jones jurors, and she's from Texas, identifies as liberal, and yet had never heard of Alex Jones. I suspect that just as there are millions of people that think horribly of immigrants or gays or Jews or whatever without having met a single person in any of those categories, there are probably plenty of people (on, er, both sides) that vote for the idea of a candidate without actually knowing much or anything about them or their policies beyond "not Trump" or "not Biden" or whatever.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 18 August 2022 16:53 (one year ago) link
Fleece or be fleeced
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 18 August 2022 16:54 (one year ago) link
Too many people vote on the basis of "I'd have a beer with that guy" or "I like that guy, he's taller than the other guy."
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 18 August 2022 17:30 (one year ago) link
Or "He hates the people I hate, fuck yeah"
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 18 August 2022 17:45 (one year ago) link
pic.twitter.com/kr5BuENl92— 🇺🇦🤝🇺🇸 Monty Boa 🇺🇸🤝🇺🇦 (@MontyBoa99) August 18, 2022
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 18 August 2022 18:55 (one year ago) link
How many lefty podcasters are planning to watch the entire Lindell stream-- ON ACID!
― President Keyes, Thursday, 18 August 2022 19:15 (one year ago) link
pic.twitter.com/tq24Y0BwVl— AVΞNGΞR RΞSISTΞR (@AvengerResister) July 24, 2022
NEW: Unsealed Trump Mar-a-Lago search warrant application cover sheet offers the DOJ’s description of potential crimes:— Wilful retention of national defense information— Concealment or removal of govt records— Obstruction of federal investigationhttps://t.co/tA1vsQz2T7— Hugo Lowell (@hugolowell) August 18, 2022
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 18 August 2022 19:40 (one year ago) link
(Unrelated, the first is just a funny Lindell moment from a few days ago. The latter is Trump's cage rattling resulting in making things worse.)
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 18 August 2022 19:41 (one year ago) link
The 'evidence of a crime' box checked off is also nice to see so starkly. pic.twitter.com/OZkxV84oKl— Don Lewis (@DonLew87) August 18, 2022
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 18 August 2022 19:42 (one year ago) link
yeah but guys he hasn't been convicted yet so he's innocent
― Weltanschauung Dunston (Neanderthal), Thursday, 18 August 2022 19:47 (one year ago) link
We will all owe him a great big apology.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 18 August 2022 19:49 (one year ago) link
If you need to look for "evidence" to "prove" that someone "committed a crime" then you must suck at investigating
― President Keyes, Thursday, 18 August 2022 20:28 (one year ago) link
cant believe they raided a former president for contraband fruits seems excessive
― lag∞n, Thursday, 18 August 2022 20:42 (one year ago) link
so like, lychees or
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 18 August 2022 20:52 (one year ago) link
the manchurian fruit
― Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Thursday, 18 August 2022 20:56 (one year ago) link
Pretty sure all fruits are considered contraband at Mar a Lago. And vegetables, too.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 18 August 2022 21:02 (one year ago) link
French Fries are vegetables
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 18 August 2022 21:19 (one year ago) link
gummy worms as well
― Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Thursday, 18 August 2022 21:21 (one year ago) link
French Fries are were vegetables. French fries are vegetables that have become their final, perfect form.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 18 August 2022 21:27 (one year ago) link
wonder where he kept the jelly beans.
― ミ💙🅟 🅛 🅤 🅡 🅜 🅑💙彡 (Austin), Thursday, 18 August 2022 22:17 (one year ago) link
Evidence of a lime
― your marshmallows may vary (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 19 August 2022 19:57 (one year ago) link
Orange you glad they did, though?
― nickn, Friday, 19 August 2022 21:08 (one year ago) link
Yes, berry glad.
― Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Friday, 19 August 2022 21:21 (one year ago) link
Uh, "pro se" means, Trump's going it alone. https://t.co/YLRiFHNpDe— emptywheel (@emptywheel) August 22, 2022
― death generator (lukas), Monday, 22 August 2022 20:49 (one year ago) link
I would assume that is a glitch.
― Abel Ferrara hard-sci-fi elevator pitch (PBKR), Monday, 22 August 2022 21:06 (one year ago) link
probably bc none of his dummy lawyers/“officers” want to be on the hook for filing dumbly
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 22 August 2022 21:26 (one year ago) link
this trial is going to be in front of an NBA referee
― Toonie Orlando (Neanderthal), Monday, 22 August 2022 21:30 (one year ago) link
Does he really have a lawyer named Jim Trusty?
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 22 August 2022 21:33 (one year ago) link
if anyone has a lawyer called Jim Trusty, it's this guy
― link.exposing.politically (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 22 August 2022 21:58 (one year ago) link
"890 other statutory actions"
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 22 August 2022 22:06 (one year ago) link
it’s like turning in your homework on a napkin and the meeting with the teacher isn’t so much “these answers are wrong and let’s discuss why” but more “son, do you understand the concept of PAPER?”
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 22 August 2022 23:12 (one year ago) link
heh
Two former White House officials, who had been designated as among Mr. Trump’s representatives with the archives, received calls and tried to facilitate the documents’ return.
Mr. Trump resisted those calls, describing the boxes of documents as “mine,” according to three advisers familiar with his comments.
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/22/us/politics/trump-mar-a-lago-documents.html
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 23 August 2022 00:42 (one year ago) link
That is funny. Dude fucked around and found out.
― Abel Ferrara hard-sci-fi elevator pitch (PBKR), Tuesday, 23 August 2022 00:46 (one year ago) link
i still hold that he may be made up of two five-year olds, one standing on top of the other inside a large suit, bojack horseman style
― Karl Malone, Tuesday, 23 August 2022 01:09 (one year ago) link
Explains the weird posture.
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 23 August 2022 01:16 (one year ago) link
*dark thoughts*
you all seem so convinced of his stupidity. I don’t think he’s stupid at all. he's going to finesse everything.
delays are his intended effect, there will be more and more delays, and maybe the court cases wont be resolved before he is elected president again, when he will be literally free from consequences
I would like Merrick Garland to come through but I don't think he will
― Dan S, Tuesday, 23 August 2022 01:59 (one year ago) link
you realize the reason he succeeded at obstruction prior to 2021 was because he had the power of the Presidency at his disposal, right?
dude hasn't even been able to get reinstated on Twitter, and he's going to mastermind a rise from the ashes?
entirely possible he doesn't do time or get indicted/etc but you're overestimating his abilities since he left office.
― Toonie Orlando (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 23 August 2022 02:08 (one year ago) link
I guess
― Dan S, Tuesday, 23 August 2022 02:11 (one year ago) link
He might mastermind a rise from the ashes given that he has more control over the federal judiciary than obvious criminals usually do
People chuckling about the amateurishness of Trump's filing are going to be disappointed when he wins anyway because the judge is a far-right hack. https://t.co/aLRNBhbKDE— Michael Tae Sweeney (@mtsw) August 22, 2022
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 23 August 2022 02:11 (one year ago) link
if we're just talking about this one case only, ok
― Toonie Orlando (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 23 August 2022 02:12 (one year ago) link
i think reading any certainty into this latest filing is a fool's errand though
so trump filed a … motion? petition? … to exclude evidence from a proceeding that doesn’t exist?— Joshua Erlich (@JoshuaErlich) August 22, 2022
― Toonie Orlando (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 23 August 2022 02:16 (one year ago) link
the "he's representing himself" though was definitely bullshit and once again people just believing shit because it's funny
how do experienced lawyers not know how ECF works. nearly 30k likes on a tweet that’s plainly false. https://t.co/t2O8L1uqy5— Joshua Erlich (@JoshuaErlich) August 22, 2022
― Toonie Orlando (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 23 August 2022 02:22 (one year ago) link
(it was a temporary clerical error)
― Toonie Orlando (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 23 August 2022 02:24 (one year ago) link
unless theres evidence he was engaged in actual espionage kinda doubt hell be charged for just trying to keep the documents, could have worse luck in some of the other cases floating around out there tho
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 23 August 2022 02:30 (one year ago) link
should also be noted that Michael Tae Sweeney is a film and tv editor, with little expertise on the issue, and the person he quoted (Marc Joseph Stern, who is an extremely reliable source) didn't have quite the outlook he did. MJS is more baffled at the entire filing and thinks the most Trump will get out of the judge is slow-walking the case.
xpost yeah it's never been a certainty he would be indicted to begin with.
― Toonie Orlando (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 23 August 2022 02:34 (one year ago) link
how many times do we have to do thishe IS stupid AND he was the 45th president. we are at the point now where that is demonstrably true.he’s not a secret genius no matter how much you want that to be true, no matter how much you want to believe that only smart people attain power he IS stupid and any success he has isnt because he’s a secret genius it’s because there’s a system allowing it to happen
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 23 August 2022 02:35 (one year ago) link
there have been like 500 tell-all books about Donald Trump and the only ones that promote a remotely flattering assessment of his intelligence are the ones he paid to have written. whenever he goes off-prompter he either says the dumbest shit imaginable or acts like he has no clue what he just said 5 seconds ago. hate to be one of the guys who say this kind of bullshit but reality TV really did lead us directly to this, literally and figuratively
― frogbs, Tuesday, 23 August 2022 02:46 (one year ago) link
we are deep into america in paradise
― Karl Malone, Tuesday, 23 August 2022 02:49 (one year ago) link
It continually amazes me how much people rely on the garbage fire that is twitter for their news and facts.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Tuesday, 23 August 2022 05:12 (one year ago) link
We did not deserve him. pic.twitter.com/lfn1So2kab— 𝚂𝚘𝚌𝚛𝚊𝚝𝚎𝚎𝚓 (@TheSocrateej) August 21, 2022
I'm not sure about "we didn't deserve him" but this cracked me up
― calzino, Tuesday, 23 August 2022 08:44 (one year ago) link
Officially Dead 💀😂😂😂 pic.twitter.com/LCNfYNObPs— M-A.Stay’Legit ™️🇨🇦🇩🇪 (@BagdMilkSoWhat) August 22, 2022
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 23 August 2022 10:22 (one year ago) link
"We appreciate it, now it all makes sense" is exactly a sentence any FBI agent would say to a subject of an investigation. pic.twitter.com/YTaRRcifhZ— Bill Grueskin (@BGrueskin) August 22, 2022
They had tears in their eyes, too, I bet.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 23 August 2022 12:02 (one year ago) link
sir,
― aegis philbin (crüt), Tuesday, 23 August 2022 12:33 (one year ago) link
the wifi password at mar-a-lago is literally 1122334455 but please say more about your secure document facilities pic.twitter.com/tmYUGLHSQG— ya girl (@goldengateblond) August 20, 2022
― but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 24 August 2022 00:56 (one year ago) link
You love to see it
Trump wants to lock up his longtime Transportation Secretary. #ettd pic.twitter.com/pqNmDpmwGY— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) August 24, 2022
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 24 August 2022 23:53 (one year ago) link
Enjoy an affidavit
https://www.politico.com/f/?id=00000182-daea-d289-a3bb-daef43180000
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 26 August 2022 16:16 (one year ago) link
Or this may be a supporting document -- in any event, whole lotta redactions!
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 26 August 2022 16:18 (one year ago) link
Note that Reinhart has not unsealed 89 yet, so he may actually still be reviewing the affy. pic.twitter.com/nhtw8j2kbP— emptywheel (@emptywheel) August 26, 2022
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 26 August 2022 16:20 (one year ago) link
Sums it up!
Here's a redacted list of the iteimzed redactions with one exception: "Agent safety." https://t.co/buDmDZYl5o— Kyle Cheney (@kyledcheney) August 26, 2022
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 26 August 2022 16:23 (one year ago) link
Okay the actual affidavit
https://www.politico.com/f/?id=00000182-daec-dfd1-adef-dafe79d30000
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 26 August 2022 16:27 (one year ago) link
The stretch from about page 23 to 28 makes for very gripping reading.
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 26 August 2022 16:30 (one year ago) link
Even bypassing the redactions, it's immediately clear that there is very narrowly written statutory language describing what you're allowed to do with classified and secret documents, whether you're an ex-president or a janitor, and that this fuck broke every rule of document security. He should already be in prison.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Friday, 26 August 2022 16:45 (one year ago) link
vibe pic.twitter.com/vIignkU6ra— Josh Marshall (@joshtpm) August 26, 2022
― Bait Kush (Eric H.), Friday, 26 August 2022 17:20 (one year ago) link
http://newsinteractive.post-gazette.com/anna-de-rothschild-trump-mar-a-lago-security-fbi-investigation/
“What I’m trying to understand is how did they allow this?” said Mr. Lawrence. “How could someone keep coming back — at that level? This is Mar-a-Lago.”
― borrowed Ostalgia for the unremembered 80s (MoominTrollin), Friday, 26 August 2022 20:54 (one year ago) link
going to imagine this was Joey Lawrence
― and the worms, they entered his ass (Neanderthal), Friday, 26 August 2022 21:18 (one year ago) link
Famously secure fortress Mar-a-Lago
― Mar - a - Lago, or 120 Days of Sodom (Boring, Maryland), Friday, 26 August 2022 21:33 (one year ago) link
Neando you should buy a cheap knockoff Trump shirt and just show up and wander around for us.
― Mar - a - Lago, or 120 Days of Sodom (Boring, Maryland), Friday, 26 August 2022 21:34 (one year ago) link
...Cannon, who was nominated by Trump and confirmed by the Senate about a week after his defeat in 2020, said she plans to hold a hearing Thursday in West Palm Beach on the former president’s request for a special master. She typically convenes court in Fort Pierce, Fla., about an hour’s drive north of there.The judge’s two-page order giving “notice of [her] preliminary intent to appoint a special master in this case” came less than a day after Trump’s attorneys late Friday made a pitch for an independent review of the materials seized from his Mar-a-Lago estate and before prosecutors filed any reply.Cannon gave no indication how she viewed Trump’s claims that the search was unnecessary and extreme. Instead, she asked Trump to file a brief responding to the Justice Department’s produced list of seized materials. She also asked both sides to describe specifically the role they envision for a special master. And she asked DOJ to reveal the status of its filter review, and whether any investigators outside of the review team had seen the seized materials.The Department of Justice declined to comment on the ruling.Appointments of special masters to oversee the handling of evidence seized in federal criminal investigations are unusual, but typically have occurred when prosecutors seize records from an attorney’s office. Judges in Manhattan used the mechanism in recent years in connection with investigations into two Trump attorneys: Michael Cohen and Rudy Giuliani.
The judge’s two-page order giving “notice of [her] preliminary intent to appoint a special master in this case” came less than a day after Trump’s attorneys late Friday made a pitch for an independent review of the materials seized from his Mar-a-Lago estate and before prosecutors filed any reply.
Cannon gave no indication how she viewed Trump’s claims that the search was unnecessary and extreme. Instead, she asked Trump to file a brief responding to the Justice Department’s produced list of seized materials. She also asked both sides to describe specifically the role they envision for a special master. And she asked DOJ to reveal the status of its filter review, and whether any investigators outside of the review team had seen the seized materials.
The Department of Justice declined to comment on the ruling.
Appointments of special masters to oversee the handling of evidence seized in federal criminal investigations are unusual, but typically have occurred when prosecutors seize records from an attorney’s office. Judges in Manhattan used the mechanism in recent years in connection with investigations into two Trump attorneys: Michael Cohen and Rudy Giuliani.
― dow, Sunday, 28 August 2022 00:55 (one year ago) link
If the special master she appoints is Rudy Guiliani, we'll know the fix is in.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Sunday, 28 August 2022 03:25 (one year ago) link
Leaving aside how far Judge Cannon is going to accommodate Trump, it’s not like appointing a special master changes anything about Trump’s potential liability or the legitimacy of DOJ’s search. It’s about the possible return of *some* of the seized materials — and nothing more. https://t.co/MrWQdacvfi— Steve Vladeck (@steve_vladeck) August 27, 2022
― and the worms, they entered his ass (Neanderthal), Sunday, 28 August 2022 04:15 (one year ago) link
No. At some point she’s going to have to address her authority to do any of this — and whatever she says will presumably be subject to appeal.— Steve Vladeck (@steve_vladeck) August 27, 2022
― and the worms, they entered his ass (Neanderthal), Sunday, 28 August 2022 04:20 (one year ago) link
Yes lol
Trump made some outrageous claims about German energy at the UN — and the German delegation’s reaction was priceless pic.twitter.com/izpa2fKC3B— NowThis (@nowthisnews) September 26, 2018
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 29 August 2022 07:00 (one year ago) link
haa
― lag∞n, Monday, 29 August 2022 10:37 (one year ago) link
Lots of crowing from the right online about that (MAGAbots obv but not exclusively), like a bandwagon attack on Germany for rejecting nuclear and approach to renewable. But Germany is now on 40% less gas from Russia than it was a year ago and whatever Germans are paying for energy I get the impression Brits will actually pay more.
― nashwan, Monday, 29 August 2022 11:33 (one year ago) link
Actually came to the thread to post Jamie Foxx's new-to-me extremely good Trump impression but nm
― nashwan, Monday, 29 August 2022 11:34 (one year ago) link
I know it's been said but the Mussolini parallels in the asshole's mannerisms in that video are overwhelming
― assert (matttkkkk), Monday, 29 August 2022 11:35 (one year ago) link
Jamie Foxx does a better vocal mimic of Trump than that "comedy professional" from R4 who does it very badly
― calzino, Monday, 29 August 2022 11:50 (one year ago) link
He's a pretty good mimic overall. Cf. his appearance on Fallon's "Wheel of Musical Impressions."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGidYBqBHVw
― gin and tonic the hedgehog (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 29 August 2022 13:51 (one year ago) link
that's unbelievable
― symsymsym, Monday, 29 August 2022 14:43 (one year ago) link
Trump demands he be declared the rightful winner of the 2020 election or that a re-do election be held “immediately” pic.twitter.com/tlWM60ar7p— nikki mccann ramírez (@NikkiMcR) August 29, 2022
― frogbs, Monday, 29 August 2022 17:20 (one year ago) link
EMBOLISM NOW! EMBOLISM NOW!
― the body of a spider... (scampering alpaca), Monday, 29 August 2022 17:24 (one year ago) link
Meanwhile, there's a parallel universe where everyone scratches their chins and thinks that's a compelling argument.
― the body of a spider... (scampering alpaca), Monday, 29 August 2022 17:26 (one year ago) link
He must constantly act like his lies and his crazy demands are the only valid reality lest his cult following fall prey to the other reality in which he is a loser, a fraud and and a blowhard.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Monday, 29 August 2022 17:26 (one year ago) link
I say we have a new election, eventually!
― You can't spell Fearless without Earle (President Keyes), Monday, 29 August 2022 17:29 (one year ago) link
once again - trump was kicked off twitter, and I don't see the point of tweeting his 'truths', just let him yell at the TV in peace
― Andy the Grasshopper, Monday, 29 August 2022 17:37 (one year ago) link
The part that I find really breathtaking is that he genuinely believes that if there was a new election held today, he would win.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Monday, 29 August 2022 17:49 (one year ago) link
I think he will refuse to run in the 2024 election until after they sort out the 2020 election
― You can't spell Fearless without Earle (President Keyes), Monday, 29 August 2022 17:51 (one year ago) link
I think there's a greater than outside chance he would.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 29 August 2022 17:57 (one year ago) link
― Mar - a - Lago, or 120 Days of Sodom (Boring, Maryland), Monday, 29 August 2022 17:57 (one year ago) link
he totally could win
to me the crazy part is admitting he lost because the FBI (that he presided over) didn't publicly pursue his political opponents aggressively enough and that amounts to election interference.
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Monday, 29 August 2022 18:00 (one year ago) link
I wonder if there's a small percentage of Trump supporters who didn't even vote, confident that he couldn't possibly lose to Sleepy Joe who NEVER HELD RALLIES!
― Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Monday, 29 August 2022 18:03 (one year ago) link
― Andy the Grasshopper, Monday, August 29, 2022 12:37 PM (twenty-eight minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
he's still by far the most popular figure in the Republican party and, until recently, pretty much everyone on this board assumed he was gonna win in 2024
― frogbs, Monday, 29 August 2022 18:06 (one year ago) link
I think he still could, and it’s not a small chance. Source: the history of the United States
― Karl Malone, Monday, 29 August 2022 18:13 (one year ago) link
Don't blame the voters. If he's the only racist on the ballot then who else can they vote for?
― You can't spell Fearless without Earle (President Keyes), Monday, 29 August 2022 18:14 (one year ago) link
So what you (and the other folks who agree with you) think is that Donald Trump is more popular now than he was in November 2016, when he squeaked out the most statistically improbable barely-a-win in US political history. More popular now than he was in November 2020, when he lost by seven million votes. More popular after January 6. More popular after the Mar-A-Lago raid and all the news stories about mishandling of classified national security documents. Joe Biden has shitty approval ratings, but his approval/disapproval numbers are ten points above Trump's. But sure, Trump could win.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Monday, 29 August 2022 18:23 (one year ago) link
Have you seen a gas prices?
― You can't spell Fearless without Earle (President Keyes), Monday, 29 August 2022 18:24 (one year ago) link
2020 was pretty close right? And the electoral machinery in some swing states is now firmly held by election deniers?
― death generator (lukas), Monday, 29 August 2022 18:26 (one year ago) link
At this point we're conditioned to expect the stupidest outcome imaginable, all of which were unimaginable pre-2016
― Evan, Monday, 29 August 2022 18:26 (one year ago) link
there is entirely valid reasons to worry about the fuckery that might happen in the elections in 2024. with that being said, giving myself a brain tumor over it now when I can't do anything about it isn't going to help things, so I'm waiting til closer to that time and I'm sure demonstrations are gonna ramp up anticipating the sabotage.
we should be doing that for the midterms as well.
― and the worms, they entered his ass (Neanderthal), Monday, 29 August 2022 18:27 (one year ago) link
xxpost Seriously. I don't know how much 'popularity' is going to really factor in with respect to whichever GOP psycho 'wins' the '24 presidential election.
― Beautiful Bean Footage Fetishist (Old Lunch), Monday, 29 August 2022 18:31 (one year ago) link
nope
if he wins, it would be because he stole it. they're going to try to steal it again. it's great that america's institutions stood up to it in 2020. hopefully they do enough in 2024 as well.
i don't think this is likely. i'm just saying, when tens of millions of angry people decide to openly steal an election together, they do have a chance, even if they're outnumbered and make no sense and everyone hates them
― Karl Malone, Monday, 29 August 2022 18:32 (one year ago) link
2020 was pretty close right?
― death generator (lukas), Monday, August 29, 2022 2:26 PM (four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
iirc ~50k votes across three states wouldve swung the election to trump
― lag∞n, Monday, 29 August 2022 18:34 (one year ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/4g1FwSv.png
― Karl Malone, Monday, 29 August 2022 18:36 (one year ago) link
anyway, not trying to be negative nancy over here, i know it's very annoying when someone is worried about that kind of shit. i felt that way in the month before january 6, too, when trump and everyone around him were also openly saying they were going to try to steal the election and it was like sure, but rudy giuliani's hair dye is running down his cheek lol
― Karl Malone, Monday, 29 August 2022 18:38 (one year ago) link
With his base, he has reached messianic status. They will turn out for him no matter what. Combine that with tepid interest in whoever the Democratic candidate is, Supreme Court shenanigans insulating state running of elections from judicial review, and the assumption of the voting apparatus by his supporters, and yes, I think he could win.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 29 August 2022 18:43 (one year ago) link
I'm not Mr. "Yay, The System Works!" either. This country is fucked and unsalvageable; my wife and I are actively discussing our bugout options. I just think the fuckedness is on a slightly longer timeline than the folks who seem to think the apocalypse will be here by Labor Day, or certainly Thanksgiving at the outside.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Monday, 29 August 2022 18:44 (one year ago) link
the apocalypse is not a real thing
― lag∞n, Monday, 29 August 2022 18:47 (one year ago) link
good essay about the flaws in apocalyptic thinking https://gen.medium.com/i-lived-through-collapse-america-is-already-there-ba1e4b54c5fc
― lag∞n, Monday, 29 August 2022 18:50 (one year ago) link
With his base, he has reached messianic status. They will turn out for him no matter what.
true, but every time Trumpism is on the ballot the other side turns out in big numbers as well. it's fun to watch the right all aghast that Joe Biden - arguably a less exciting candidate than Al Gore - got 81 million votes, completely oblivious to how insanely off putting Trump and the entire Republican platform is right now
― frogbs, Monday, 29 August 2022 18:51 (one year ago) link
OTM. The cult has no idea how despised its leader is outside the cult.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 29 August 2022 18:54 (one year ago) link
we're hypothesizing about an utterly batshit scenario in which there was suddenly a re-do election because the FBI didn't arrest Hunter Biden, but the crazy part is thinking if such a scenario came to pass there's no way Trump could win, am I getting this right?
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Monday, 29 August 2022 18:55 (one year ago) link
No, I was thinking of 2024, not a hypothetical "redo" of 2020.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 29 August 2022 18:56 (one year ago) link
let's worry about 2024 after we win the 2020 re-do, ok?
― You can't spell Fearless without Earle (President Keyes), Monday, 29 August 2022 18:58 (one year ago) link
every time Trumpism is on the ballot the other side turns out in big numbers as well
This is what I'm saying. A) Trump's base has shrunk since 2020; B) the number of people who hate Trump, and by extension hate the Republican party, and will absolutely vote against them, has grown substantially, especially since Roe v. Wade was overturned. I mean, 70% of new voter registrations in Pennsylvania are women. Do you think they're planning on voting Republican? I don't.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Monday, 29 August 2022 18:59 (one year ago) link
xxp
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, August 29, 2022 12:57 PM (one hour ago)
were you?
but yeah, if we are talking about 2024, then absolutely Trump could win
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Monday, 29 August 2022 19:00 (one year ago) link
i think trump would probably lose in an election but i also dont really want to see it play out
― lag∞n, Monday, 29 August 2022 19:16 (one year ago) link
the chance that republicans could steal said election is way past uncomfortably high
― lag∞n, Monday, 29 August 2022 19:17 (one year ago) link
xxp yeah, I don't think we are going to re-do the 2020 election under any circumstances. But I will not dismiss the possibility of Trump winning until he is dead and buried.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 29 August 2022 19:35 (one year ago) link
That process looks something like this:1. Trump dies2. Trump is buried3. Hunter Biden’s laptop4. Trump is exhumed 5. Trump wins presidency
― realistic pillow (Jon not Jon), Monday, 29 August 2022 19:44 (one year ago) link
'You've offended the lord': Latinos for Trump leader fears ex-president suffering divine retribution
https://www.rawstory.com/donald-trump-prayer/
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 29 August 2022 19:46 (one year ago) link
(low-hanging fruit alert)
Didn't come state/county/region elect a dead guy to some office not terribly long ago?
― henry s, Monday, 29 August 2022 19:47 (one year ago) link
prayer closet
― henry s, Monday, 29 August 2022 19:48 (one year ago) link
He should be turned into a pillar of shit] salt.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 29 August 2022 19:58 (one year ago) link
Truth Social may be circling the drain anyway:
...unnamed sources say Truth Social has made only three of its contractual monthly payments to RightForge — the company that Truth Social pays to keep the platform online — since the two began working together in October of last year, and has not made any new payments since March. The company is threatening to take legal action to recoup the money, the report says... it may not be long before Truth Social ends up in the graveyard of failed social media sites.
― Andy the Grasshopper, Monday, 29 August 2022 20:04 (one year ago) link
Wow, a Trump company stiffing one of its vendors?
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 29 August 2022 20:05 (one year ago) link
Its a bit lengthy, but "Trump has possibly offended the Lord in some big way" for September thread title
― Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Monday, 29 August 2022 20:10 (one year ago) link
plz plz plz not another Trumpcentric title. he's the worst reality show and we don't have to watch it.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Monday, 29 August 2022 20:17 (one year ago) link
The Lord loves the Presidential Records Act
― You can't spell Fearless without Earle (President Keyes), Monday, 29 August 2022 20:17 (one year ago) link
“I’ve got your secret spy shit”
― The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 29 August 2022 21:04 (one year ago) link
"Word is, lots!"
― henry s, Monday, 29 August 2022 21:23 (one year ago) link
Mutilated by rats, burned, trashed: 200 years of ILX politics threads lost
― DPRK in Cincinnati (WmC), Monday, 29 August 2022 21:26 (one year ago) link
Don't blame the voters. If he's the only racist on the ballot then who else can they vote for?― You can't spell Fearless without Earle (President Keyes), Monday, August 29, 2022 11:14 AM (five hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
― You can't spell Fearless without Earle (President Keyes), Monday, August 29, 2022 11:14 AM (five hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
Um, not to be Captain Obvious here, but Joe Biden is absolutely a total fucking racist, and please spare me the "but Obama and Kamala" shit.
― broccoli rabe thomas (the table is the table), Tuesday, 30 August 2022 00:15 (one year ago) link
But obama and kamala
― You can't spell Fearless without Earle (President Keyes), Tuesday, 30 August 2022 02:08 (one year ago) link
C'mon, man. They are very articulate.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 30 August 2022 02:14 (one year ago) link
And clean
plz plz plz not another Trumpcentric titlewhat do you think the title of this thread should reference?
― Vance Vance Devolution (sic), Tuesday, 30 August 2022 03:54 (one year ago) link
DT having a normal one
Donald Trump is having a total meltdown on Truth Social this morning. All of these posts are from just the last few hours. pic.twitter.com/qtQs6KEA7D— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) August 30, 2022
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 30 August 2022 16:55 (one year ago) link
what do you think the title of this thread should reference?
this thread title is fine. I was replying to a post suggesting a new "September thread title", which clearly referred to the US politics thread, which renews monthly. maybe you could have figured that out yourself, if you tried, instead of prematurely leaping at the chance to zing me.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 30 August 2022 17:06 (one year ago) link
I think Donald Trump is just bored. Someone should get him a fidget spinner.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 30 August 2022 17:50 (one year ago) link
Someone should introduce him to Netflix.
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 30 August 2022 18:06 (one year ago) link
Heck, someone should teach him about podcasting then lock him in a bathroom and tell him to just start talking.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 30 August 2022 18:25 (one year ago) link
I want him to livetweet watching The Rehearsal
― Mar - a - Lago, or 120 Days of Sodom (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 30 August 2022 18:25 (one year ago) link
He should record commentary tracks. To anything, really.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 30 August 2022 18:27 (one year ago) link
The Rehearsal is... fake. It's fake, okay? And people have been saying, "Oh sir, it's not real." And it's a terrible thing. And we're going to do something about that, aren't we?
― Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 30 August 2022 18:34 (one year ago) link
Man if only his career trajectory had gone in this direction instead
― epistantophus, Tuesday, 30 August 2022 18:35 (one year ago) link
"And ... look, the name of the tournament is called Kumite, but the name of the arena ... well, if it was up to me, in my opinion it should have been Trump Arena, we offered them a very good deal to call it Trump, but they didn't want Trump, which was a mistake, in my opinion, the tournament would have been a lot more successful, a lot less underground. Frankly, many, many more people would have heard of it. Instead, people are saying it was a failure, the Kumite tournament. Should have been Pay-per-view, they begged me to reconsider. But that's OK, it was their choice to turn down all that money. It's a freestyle fight, kumite, menaing almost anything goes. Well, a lot of people don't know this, but the word 'kumite' has its roots in Japanese, where it, where it translates roughly to mean 'grappling hands.' And frankly there is a lot of grappling in this movie, maybe too much grappling. But "kumite" ... Jean Claude Van Damme is a man of honor, so yes, he is literally grappling with his enemies, but he is also grappling metaphorically, to choose to do the right thing, to win - and this is important - to win with honor. The Kumite becomes not about the death touch, not about love - though the woman, the woman is very beautiful, the most beautiful - it is about grappling with the morality of vengeance and emerging victorious not by beating his enemy Chong Li - a cheater - but by finally turning himself in to Helmer and Rawlins and restoring his honor."
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 30 August 2022 20:16 (one year ago) link
"By 2019, tensions between the two men and their worldviews burst into the open. After disputes between the two leaders over Iran, Syria, and NATO, Trump could be heard blasting Macron as a “pain in the ass” to a White House gathering of international ambassadors to the United Nations. Trump’s former White House press secretary Stephanie Grisham also wrote in a memoir that Trump had privately called Macron a “a wuss guy” and “a hundred twenty pounds of fury.”"
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/donald-trump-emmanuel-macron-maralago-fbi-raid-1234582465/
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 30 August 2022 22:12 (one year ago) link
"a wuss guy" said the hair-sprayed makeup wearer who's never carried anything heavier than a five iron in forty years
― Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 30 August 2022 22:23 (one year ago) link
i noticed that too— lol like Macron could totally take you, Donnie. he’d use your sweat to glide away to victory
― broccoli rabe thomas (the table is the table), Tuesday, 30 August 2022 22:27 (one year ago) link
https://uproxx.com/viral/trump-truth-social-why-are-people-so-mean/
― and the worms, they entered his ass (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 30 August 2022 22:30 (one year ago) link
Kind of impressive his total lack of self-awareness or capacity for reflection.
― sweating like Cathy *aaaack* (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 30 August 2022 22:56 (one year ago) link
Holy fuck
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 30 August 2022 22:57 (one year ago) link
I mean I would be a nightmare of a person just like him, but it must be...something...to go through life like that. Liberating in a way.
― sweating like Cathy *aaaack* (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 30 August 2022 22:59 (one year ago) link
He called Ted Cruz’s wife “ugly” and accused his dad of assassinating JFK.
And now said Cruz moistly grovels at trump's feet, hoping for a pat on the head
― Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 30 August 2022 23:04 (one year ago) link
no Zodiac accusation, no credibility
― sleeve, Tuesday, 30 August 2022 23:05 (one year ago) link
Now that is a fucking thread title
― frogbs, Tuesday, 30 August 2022 23:20 (one year ago) link
haha
― sleeve, Tuesday, 30 August 2022 23:23 (one year ago) link
NEWS: DOJ's new filing includes. photo of the classified documents found at Mar-a-Lago on Aug. 8. https://t.co/nm567c96bi pic.twitter.com/0U2hoSogxQ— Kyle Cheney (@kyledcheney) August 31, 2022
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 31 August 2022 03:37 (one year ago) link
All that’s missing from that tableau is some greasy fast food wrappers.
― Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 31 August 2022 09:31 (one year ago) link
Or some greasy former President.
― Buckfast At Tiffany's (Tom D.), Wednesday, 31 August 2022 09:39 (one year ago) link
but her emails?
― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 31 August 2022 10:06 (one year ago) link
What's up with the framed Time magazine cover(s) in the box? Looks like the start of a "help me identify the crimes in this photo" thread.
― BrianB, Wednesday, 31 August 2022 12:20 (one year ago) link
I don't see any emails there=innocent!
Seriously, though, there are people that have gone to jail for a fraction of the infractions displayed here.
Trump's incompetence is legendary, and the fact that people again and again keep sacrificing themselves at his throne of stupidity boggles the mind. The body count of people tainted (or convicted) for covering up for him, for enabling him, is higher than that pile of burgers when he invited that sports team to the White House.
Some people are already mocking, saying, oh, Time magazine, soooo classified, but that's the whole point. He had all this important classified stuff mixed in with his personal shit. Reportedly he had highly classified stuff in his desk with his passports, which further underscores chain of custody. Reportedly the DOJ has evidence that Trump Inc. *moved* classified documents in response to the subpoena, no doubt because perpetually entitled, consequence-free Trump insisted on grabbing what he could and no one could or would stop him. It just blows the mind the extent to which Trump and his team just so brazenly blew off the DOJ. You'd think *someone* there would have recognized the extent of the criminality, and hey, maybe someone did, because clearly someone ultimately ratted him out.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 31 August 2022 12:28 (one year ago) link
A natural impulse:
After all, why not? pic.twitter.com/7LmD1QBECf— Paul Sherman (@PaulMSherman) August 31, 2022
― but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 31 August 2022 20:20 (one year ago) link
oh yes. Records Custodian Order #1348: "President Donald Trump sir is allowed to take what he needs from the Oval Office in the White House of America to the Mar-a-Lago toilets and other rooms there, and the second they leave the Oval Office they become declassified as well"
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 1 September 2022 02:02 (one year ago) link
fukken loved that order, it became common knowledge overnight
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 1 September 2022 02:03 (one year ago) link
that's why we voted a great businessman into the oval office, because he would have common sense
― Clay, Thursday, 1 September 2022 02:06 (one year ago) link
seems to me like his behaviour is an attempt to validate / legitimise his claim that he's still the president, i.e. of course I can take this to my residence
― assert (matttkkkk), Thursday, 1 September 2022 02:45 (one year ago) link
This is what the #TruthSocial office looked like in Sarasota, Fl. on Wed. afternoon. There was no one inside the social media company’s headquarters, no receptionist, no business sign, no sign of CEO Devin Nunes, nothing with Trump’s name anywhere in the building. @HeraldTribune pic.twitter.com/VnZ0bAuPFw— Chris Anderson (@ChrisA0213) August 31, 2022
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 1 September 2022 02:49 (one year ago) link
Folks from MySpace nodding grimly in agreement
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 1 September 2022 03:14 (one year ago) link
If he's so goddamn rich, he could infuse a little cash and keep it going until Xmas... but why go down with the ship?
Once Musk controls Twitter, he's back in the spotlight
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 1 September 2022 03:16 (one year ago) link
"Movant also agrees that it would be appropriate for the special master to possess a Top Secret/SCI security clearance." (Trump's 8/31 filing page 14)No reason to ask for this if the documents were declassified.— Civis Mundus (@CivisMundusSum) September 1, 2022
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 1 September 2022 15:26 (one year ago) link
Trump's just trying to make sure Q is the special master
― You can't spell Fearless without Earle (President Keyes), Thursday, 1 September 2022 15:34 (one year ago) link
has anybody considered that q might be… trump?
― brimstead, Thursday, 1 September 2022 15:51 (one year ago) link
nah, Q doesn't post enough
― You can't spell Fearless without Earle (President Keyes), Thursday, 1 September 2022 15:52 (one year ago) link
Saw some new Trump clip where he suggests the FBI raided Mar-a-lago looking for Hillary's emails, which is just dumbfounding in its ridiculousness.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 1 September 2022 16:21 (one year ago) link
Flooding the zone with shit
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 1 September 2022 16:21 (one year ago) link
he's moved on from the auto-declassify thing, now it's turned to a "of course I have top secret docs, I'm the president" type thing
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 1 September 2022 16:35 (one year ago) link
I'm going to guess that at least some of the papers are transcripts of phone calls between Peter Strzok and Lisa Page with Trump's cum stains on them.
― You can't spell Fearless without Earle (President Keyes), Thursday, 1 September 2022 16:46 (one year ago) link
sounds like the judge is ready to drown this case in the tub. oh well, it was fun while it lasted.
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Thursday, 1 September 2022 22:18 (one year ago) link
*wriggles*
― sleeve, Thursday, 1 September 2022 22:19 (one year ago) link
I saw that story. Any order she gives will be immediately appealed.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 1 September 2022 22:20 (one year ago) link
i read the words "Trump's cum stains" earlier and it completely ruined my day
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 1 September 2022 23:16 (one year ago) link
Sorry, on what grounds are they going to dismiss this case?
― frogbs, Friday, 2 September 2022 00:29 (one year ago) link
Not a dismissal, she is apparently considering granting Trump's motion for a special master (and thereby halting DOJ's review of the documents pending the special master's review). It's a grotesquerie.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 2 September 2022 00:31 (one year ago) link
How the fuck is a Trump appointed judge allowed to have anything to do with this case
― frogbs, Friday, 2 September 2022 00:33 (one year ago) link
ginni thomas said it would be fine
― Karl Malone, Friday, 2 September 2022 00:40 (one year ago) link
Reminder
― and the worms, they entered his ass (Neanderthal), Friday, 2 September 2022 02:24 (one year ago) link
It will slow things down, not stop them, and I am betting an appeal gets any ruling of hers tossed for lack of jurisdiction
― and the worms, they entered his ass (Neanderthal), Friday, 2 September 2022 02:25 (one year ago) link
Another of the “frequent” guests to the room where the FBI found highly classified materials? pic.twitter.com/zZK64EOliA— Robert Maguire (@RobertMaguire_) September 1, 2022
Big 'Cocaine Grandparents' Energy
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 2 September 2022 04:24 (one year ago) link
what is that painting with the american-flagged face to their left?
― Western® with Bacon Flavor, Friday, 2 September 2022 04:33 (one year ago) link
Looks like a grinning skull.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 2 September 2022 20:22 (one year ago) link
Lots of grinning skulls up in there
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 2 September 2022 20:36 (one year ago) link
This is fun:
Bill Barr said he did not believe Trump's claim that he had declassified everything before it was taken to his Florida resort, and he hit back at critics of the FBI search saying it was 'unprecedented' for such sensitive materials to be taken to a 'country club.'
Barr made his comments as Trump supporters continue to accuse the FBI and Department of Justice of conducted a witch hunt...
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 2 September 2022 20:46 (one year ago) link
witch hunt is so season 2 of this show
― Karl Malone, Friday, 2 September 2022 21:21 (one year ago) link
xpost The actual clip is kind of fun, because he goes out of his way to give that quote:
Bill Barr: "I think the driver on this from the beginning was loads of classified information sitting in Mar-a-Lago. People say this was unprecedented, well it’s also unprecedented for a president to take all this classified information and put them in a country club, ok!" pic.twitter.com/A7fT59aKpD— Justin Baragona (@justinbaragona) September 2, 2022
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 2 September 2022 21:35 (one year ago) link
it would hit so much harder if he wasn't such an untrustable and corrupt person himself
― Karl Malone, Friday, 2 September 2022 21:39 (one year ago) link
Oh, for sure, he is a poop.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 2 September 2022 21:39 (one year ago) link
it's like when michael cohen tries to school everyone
as an honorable man for the past...*checks notes*...several weeks, i have important things to say about the lack of honor for the people i once served for years
― Karl Malone, Friday, 2 September 2022 21:40 (one year ago) link
also if the coup would have worked, barr would have carried into the new term as the new lord of justice
― Karl Malone, Friday, 2 September 2022 21:41 (one year ago) link
I'm sure he quit because he understood it had almost no chance of success, especially once the military told Trump to pound sand.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 2 September 2022 21:43 (one year ago) link
Bill Barr is a shit and should be in gulag but it’s good that he, as an administration henchman, is saying this to a Fox audience.
― sweating like Cathy *aaaack* (Boring, Maryland), Friday, 2 September 2022 21:44 (one year ago) link
The more generous way to read it is, "I am a corrupt creature, a calculating, conniving crony, but even I have my limits."
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 2 September 2022 21:44 (one year ago) link
I mean, he was brought on as AG because of his track record of successfully covering up presidential misconduct.
I wouldn't want to send him to a gulag, but I do think it would be fitting if he were disbarred.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 2 September 2022 21:45 (one year ago) link
i'm sure trump hates his guts, but barr did him a major solid by putting out that memo (or press release? I don't remember) that purportedly summarized the findings of the Mueller report, weeks/months before that report became public. he straight up lied to protect Trump. he made it seem like an exoneration for Trump. Even now, to this day, since no one ever reads shit like the Muller report, even many/most liberal/left people have no idea how damning it was (and even that, from Mueller's team, seeming to bend over backward for Trump at every point)
― Karl Malone, Friday, 2 September 2022 21:46 (one year ago) link
it took a village to polish that turd for America
― Karl Malone, Friday, 2 September 2022 21:47 (one year ago) link
Didn't the unredacted version of the Mueller report he summarized just come out a few days ago, revealing ... nothing? Or did I miss something.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 2 September 2022 21:48 (one year ago) link
barr is a pile of steaming shit but the part in that clip about how long the DOJ should be expected to wait before acting is pretty solid
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 2 September 2022 21:49 (one year ago) link
xpost i didn't know that an unredacted version just came out, i wasn't trying to reference current news, whoops. but...
it wasn't the redactions that were the problems with it. i'm talking about criticisms that were evident as soon as the Mueller report came out. differences between how Barr described them (falsely, inaccurately "leaked" it, more like) and what the actual contents of the released report were.
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/05/judge-slams-bill-barr-122449https://www.acslaw.org/projects/the-presidential-investigation-education-project/other-resources/stark-contrasts-between-the-mueller-report-and-attorney-general-barrs-summary/
― Karl Malone, Friday, 2 September 2022 21:52 (one year ago) link
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux)
I see what you did there
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 2 September 2022 21:54 (one year ago) link
“The inconsistencies between Attorney General Barr’s statements, made at a time when the public did not have access to the redacted version of the Mueller Report to assess the veracity of his statements, and portions of the redacted version of the Mueller Report that conflict with those statements cause the Court to seriously question whether Attorney General Barr made a calculated attempt to influence public discourse about the Mueller Report in favor of President Trump despite certain findings in the redacted version of the Mueller Report to the contrary,” the judge added.
wow, Barr got slammed on that one! so many consequences for him!!
― Karl Malone, Friday, 2 September 2022 21:54 (one year ago) link
bill barr was like, damn, i'm never going to be invited on television again
― Karl Malone, Friday, 2 September 2022 21:55 (one year ago) link
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 2 September 2022 21:58 (one year ago) link
Asked what he thought of the argument for the appointment of a special master, Mr. Barr laughed. “I think it’s a crock of shit,” he said, adding, “I don’t think a special master is called for.” https://t.co/auJhHiRXGN— Adam Goldman (@adamgoldmanNYT) September 2, 2022
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 2 September 2022 22:22 (one year ago) link
Special mastur amirite
― the floor is guava (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 2 September 2022 22:40 (one year ago) link
I've a hunch that Barr is deeply offended that, after Trump hired him as AG, he's publicly employed a long list of lawyers who are complete hacks and fools, thus forcing Barr to be associated with them in the public mind.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 2 September 2022 22:48 (one year ago) link
Right. Barr may be a liar, an authoritarian and an enabler of authoritarians, but he is neither a hack nor a fool.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 2 September 2022 22:51 (one year ago) link
no he's a hack
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 2 September 2022 23:22 (one year ago) link
Yeah but he is a *conceited* hack, and one whose father helped give Jeffrey Epstein a leg up into high society. We must respect him.
― treeship., Friday, 2 September 2022 23:26 (one year ago) link
I guess we can at least agree he is not a quack.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 2 September 2022 23:28 (one year ago) link
He’s just a fucking asshole GOP apparatchik.
― treeship., Friday, 2 September 2022 23:29 (one year ago) link
The best description I ever read of Barr's look was "Steve Bannon Meets Queer Eye."
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 2 September 2022 23:29 (one year ago) link
He’d still be carrying water for Trump if it was in any way in his interest to do so. He’s just making a different calculation these days.
― treeship., Friday, 2 September 2022 23:30 (one year ago) link
He was awful as Poppy's AG
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 2 September 2022 23:30 (one year ago) link
Alfred have you read Russ Baker’s book “Family of Secrets,” and if so do you regard it as quackery or a pretty good portrayal of how the Bush family situated themselves at the center of American power?
― treeship., Friday, 2 September 2022 23:32 (one year ago) link
William Barr a/k/a "Robert Johnson"
I wonder if he met the devil at a crossroads?
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 2 September 2022 23:33 (one year ago) link
I had some sake and I want to talk JFK.
― treeship., Friday, 2 September 2022 23:33 (one year ago) link
hell yeah
― Karl Malone, Friday, 2 September 2022 23:37 (one year ago) link
treeship, I'd love to chill with you and sake
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 2 September 2022 23:37 (one year ago) link
Me too. Lemme know when you are in nyc.
― treeship., Saturday, 3 September 2022 00:29 (one year ago) link
I had my first negroni the other night and my bestie said "what put you in the mood for that"
I mentioned a friend in South Florida :)
― and the worms, they entered his ass (Neanderthal), Saturday, 3 September 2022 01:23 (one year ago) link
hell yes
― sleeve, Saturday, 3 September 2022 01:28 (one year ago) link
Negronis rule.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 3 September 2022 02:51 (one year ago) link
I love negronis so much.
― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 3 September 2022 19:18 (one year ago) link
otoh, Donald Trump does not love negronis at all. the fool.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Saturday, 3 September 2022 19:22 (one year ago) link
Also I will be in NY ina couple weeks. Schedule is pretty packed, but the gf and I are open to suggestions on breweries and cocktail locations. Also i should find the right thread for this.
― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 3 September 2022 19:46 (one year ago) link
I doubt Donald Trump has ever shared his coke.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Saturday, 3 September 2022 23:10 (one year ago) link
OK, this is important. So let's go thread. And remember: I'm from New York; I volunteered in the recovery afterward; I wouldn't lie about this shit ... [1] https://t.co/NlkOnmIMy0— Jeff Pearlman (@jeffpearlman) September 4, 2022
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 4 September 2022 03:03 (one year ago) link
OK, this is not important
― mookieproof, Sunday, 4 September 2022 03:12 (one year ago) link
It's OK to remind everyone that Trump is a shameless liar who will say anything that he thinks will make him look like an admirable human instead of a worthless piece of shit. It ain't news but it is truth.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Sunday, 4 September 2022 03:42 (one year ago) link
you are correct
and i guess i'm glad that you haven't become too disheartened to mention it yet again now when it meant nothing 10 years ago
― mookieproof, Sunday, 4 September 2022 03:58 (one year ago) link
the only solution to trumpism is to displatform trump completely from everything
appeals to hypocrisy are laughable
― mookieproof, Sunday, 4 September 2022 04:02 (one year ago) link
It's absolutely infuriating, is what it is.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Sunday, 4 September 2022 04:50 (one year ago) link
forgive my being slow on the uptake but it recently crystallized for me that (one explanation for why) the core cult simps for him so hard is because he’s an avatar of all the privileges: white, male, straight, cis, rich. he can’t break the law because he is the law. he can’t ever face consequences because he can’t ever be wrong. that’s why every foul thing he says and does just cleaves those fuckheads closer to him. his untouchableness, his absolute freedom to publicly indulge in every lowest stupidest harefulest impulse, is a reflection and amplification of their own privilege (actual or aspirational).
feeling pretty “um, no duh" about taking so long to see this. i bet others have been pointing it out for ages.
― sourselves (cat), Sunday, 4 September 2022 05:24 (one year ago) link
he's just the result of a spoiled brat never being taught responsibility. It's always someone else's fault, you can run away from everything, you can pay people instead of doing anything yourself, etc
― StanM, Sunday, 4 September 2022 07:10 (one year ago) link
It goes beyond that. He has a truly aberrant personality. Without money, he'd likely be in jail or dead already.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Sunday, 4 September 2022 14:30 (one year ago) link
*without money and a truly remarkable ability to get people to go along with his bullshit, which is closely related to, but not the same as, having money
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Sunday, 4 September 2022 14:31 (one year ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybtwzNpJ0YA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a71VqHpza58
i don't think the "start at" will work, maybe it will. but just in case, compare and contrast 58 seconds into the first video and 49 seconds into the second
― Karl Malone, Sunday, 4 September 2022 15:24 (one year ago) link
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/deconstructed/id1354611827?i=1000578150696Alex holder’s peeks into the weird interior life of trump. If useful, maybe for “is he an evil machiavellian or is he a delusional madman?” eval. But then, it doesn’t really sound like there’s too much interior there.
― i'm intentionally vague, intending to front multitudes (Hunt3r), Sunday, 4 September 2022 22:43 (one year ago) link
all the rich interiority of an empty shoebox
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 4 September 2022 23:15 (one year ago) link
A document describing a foreign government’s military defenses, including its nuclear capabilities, was found by FBI agents who searched former president Donald Trump’s Mar-a-Lago residence and private club last month, according to people familiar with the matter, underscoring concerns among U.S. intelligence officials about classified material stashed in the Florida property.Some of the seized documents detail top-secret U.S. operations so closely guarded that many senior national security officials are kept in the dark about them. Only the president, some members of his Cabinet or a near-Cabinet-level official could authorize other government officials to know details of these special-access programs, according to people familiar with the search, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to describe sensitive details of an ongoing investigation.
― You can't spell Fearless without Earle (President Keyes), Wednesday, 7 September 2022 00:12 (one year ago) link
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2022/09/06/trump-nuclear-documents/
― You can't spell Fearless without Earle (President Keyes), Wednesday, 7 September 2022 00:13 (one year ago) link
I'm not at all convinced that he's fucked, but I'm almost certain we are.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 7 September 2022 00:20 (one year ago) link
otm (sigh)
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 7 September 2022 00:21 (one year ago) link
it is mind boggling to me how much this one fucking guy, who is absolutely an incurious moron, has laid bare the basic inequities and depravities at the heart of US empire in a more visible way than any other person during my lifetime.i’m not at all surprised that so many people cheer him on— they want the depravity, because without it, their lives are meaningless.
― broccoli rabe thomas (the table is the table), Wednesday, 7 September 2022 00:46 (one year ago) link
As others have said, the guy didn’t care about intelligence briefings etc. while he was President. Why would he want them now?
― sweating like Cathy *aaaack* (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 7 September 2022 00:56 (one year ago) link
I’m sure his bestie MBS would be interested in Israeli or Iran nuclear information.
― sweating like Cathy *aaaack* (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 7 September 2022 00:57 (one year ago) link
if that is what he was doing and the judge he appointed is running cover for him... i mean, i don't even know what to say.
my original theory was that he kept information that he thought showed the mueller investigation was a "witch hunt," or maybe information that could be used as oppo in the future. however, this document described in the washington post doesn't seem to be of this kind.
― treeship., Wednesday, 7 September 2022 01:28 (one year ago) link
i’m not at all surprised that so many people cheer him on— they want the depravity, because without it, their lives are meaningless.― broccoli rabe thomas (the table is the table), Tuesday, September 6, 2022 8:46 PM (forty-one minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
i’m not at all surprised that so many people cheer him on— they want the depravity, because without it, their lives are meaningless.
― broccoli rabe thomas (the table is the table), Tuesday, September 6, 2022 8:46 PM (forty-one minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
this is true. they like that he is nihilistic and uninhibited, it gives them a vicarious thrill. if you have values or standards, that places certain demands upon you. trump doesn't have anything like this, and to some his existence suggests the intriguing possibility that nothing matters.
― treeship., Wednesday, 7 September 2022 01:31 (one year ago) link
I mean the Saudis gave Jared K, a notoriously shitty businessman and all around idiot, $2bn.
― sweating like Cathy *aaaack* (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 7 September 2022 01:43 (one year ago) link
Why does he ever want anything? Because (1) someone else has it and/or (2) he perceives some advantage to himself in having it.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 7 September 2022 01:44 (one year ago) link
― tobo73, Wednesday, 7 September 2022 01:47 (one year ago) link
I think he definitely saw something he could make money off of.
― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 7 September 2022 02:28 (one year ago) link
all of the above
― frogbs, Wednesday, 7 September 2022 02:29 (one year ago) link
He was probably collecting all this stuff for a cool coffee table book.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 7 September 2022 12:06 (one year ago) link
Things you can learn from playing golf, like.
― Stevolende, Wednesday, 7 September 2022 12:09 (one year ago) link
― treeship., Friday, September 2, 2022 8:29 PM (five days ago) bookmarkflaglink
― and the worms, they entered his ass (Neanderthal), Friday, September 2, 2022 9:23 PM (five days ago) bookmarkflaglink
― sleeve, Friday, September 2, 2022 9:28 PM (five days ago) bookmarkflaglink
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, September 2, 2022 10:51 PM (five days ago) bookmarkflaglink
― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, September 3, 2022 3:18 PM (four days ago) bookmarkflaglink
― more difficult than I look (Aimless)
https://i.imgur.com/s0ARTmn.jpg
Good morning!
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 7 September 2022 12:53 (one year ago) link
Campari is overrated
― Bait Kush (Eric H.), Wednesday, 7 September 2022 12:55 (one year ago) link
You can always put that bottle where your heart ought to be!
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 7 September 2022 12:57 (one year ago) link
Campari and soda is a wonderful apertif
― sweating like Cathy *aaaack* (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 7 September 2022 14:55 (one year ago) link
When asked about what impact Trump’s border tax might have on the spirits business, Bob Kunze-Concewitz, CEO of Gruppo Campari said: “Usually I only comment on things I can influence and I don’t think Mr Trump will be listening to me on this topic.”
“Although I think a Negroni would do him a lot of good,” he added in reference to the Campari and gin cocktail.
― You can't spell Fearless without Earle (President Keyes), Wednesday, 7 September 2022 15:12 (one year ago) link
Campari hasn't been the same since they stopped putting bugs in it. Make Campari Insectivorous Again!
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 7 September 2022 15:23 (one year ago) link
I’ve been laughing at “This isn’t the 1800s. You can’t pay me with a horse” for a solid 10 minutes pic.twitter.com/DO3ribvXQD— Abe Goldfarb (@AbeGoldfarb) September 8, 2022
― politics is about vibes and the vibes are off (stevie), Thursday, 8 September 2022 14:48 (one year ago) link
wait, was this also for a handjob?
― You can't spell Fearless without Earle (President Keyes), Thursday, 8 September 2022 14:49 (one year ago) link
The best horse, people are saying...
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 8 September 2022 14:50 (one year ago) link
It will make the best glue, believe me.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 8 September 2022 14:58 (one year ago) link
lol I love the idea that he has a junk drawer full of deeds and top secret docs and the like that he just doles out as needed. Like the "treasure" chest of plastic shit they keep at the children's dentist as an incentive for good behavior.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 8 September 2022 15:19 (one year ago) link
My favorite detail was all the empty folders marked "top secret." Lots of theorizing, but I'm pretty sure he just kept them to pass out to donors.
― You can't spell Fearless without Earle (President Keyes), Thursday, 8 September 2022 15:20 (one year ago) link
https://contentcdn.vtechda.com/Data/Store/US/InnoTab/58-126800-000-248/screenshotLarge06.png
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 8 September 2022 15:21 (one year ago) link
Why, anybody can have money. That's a very mediocre commodity. Every pusillanimous creature that crawls on the Earth or slinks through slimy seas has money. Back where I come from, we have universities, seats of great learning, where men go to become great thinkers. And when they come out, they think deep thoughts and with no more money than you have. But they have one thing you haven't got: a horse.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 8 September 2022 15:24 (one year ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljPFZrRD3J8
― the floor is guava (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 8 September 2022 15:56 (one year ago) link
THREAD: NEW: the DoJ has filed a motion for a PARTIAL STAY of Judge Cannon’s order to the 11th circuit pending appeal in the Mar-a-Lago case. These are screen grabs of a declaration supporting the partial stay from the assistant director of counterintel at the FBI. 1/ pic.twitter.com/vH5EmNq9u5— Mueller, She Wrote (@MuellerSheWrote) September 8, 2022
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 8 September 2022 21:30 (one year ago) link
I like how we're supposed to believe these are both written by the same guy, back to back. pic.twitter.com/f25xPMLj4s— Ben Collins (@oneunderscore__) September 8, 2022
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 8 September 2022 23:35 (one year ago) link
of course...
WHOA! Trump filed a baseless lawsuit v. Hillary Clinton, ex-FBI Agent Peter Strzok et al in Florida. Back in April, Trump tried to get the assigned judge kicked off the case. The judge said no & basically accused Trump of judge-shopping. For what judge? Yup, Aileen Cannon⬇️ /1 pic.twitter.com/WCHGqvNq7j— Don Lewis (@DonLew87) September 9, 2022
― bookmarkflaglink (Darin), Friday, 9 September 2022 17:18 (one year ago) link
Trump is doing his dictator tease over on Truth Social pic.twitter.com/yqWLwLYgPd— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) September 13, 2022
Reminds me of a meme I saw shortly after the '16 election, pitching 8 years of DT, then 8 of Pence, followed by 8 with Ivanka.
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 13 September 2022 03:54 (one year ago) link
It's sort of adorable that Trump thinks he'll be alive in 2028, much less 2048.
― Bait Kush (Eric H.), Tuesday, 13 September 2022 04:09 (one year ago) link
Maybe he thinks one of his children will run.
Hahaha. Just kidding, he never thinks of anyone but himself.
― MarkoP, Tuesday, 13 September 2022 04:12 (one year ago) link
there isn't going to be a 2048
― dead queen's reich (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 13 September 2022 04:59 (one year ago) link
Why was he in DC in his golf shoes yesterday?
― politics is about vibes and the vibes are off (stevie), Tuesday, 13 September 2022 06:18 (one year ago) link
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-golf-course-today-b2165864.html?amp
― StanM, Tuesday, 13 September 2022 06:25 (one year ago) link
It was rainy and 99% humidity here yesterday hope they were miserable.
― sweating like Cathy *aaaack* (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 13 September 2022 11:59 (one year ago) link
I don't want to read or speculate about why asshole was on his golf course. It just gives him more of his endless media coverage. Ping me when he's in prison or dead.
― Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 13 September 2022 13:49 (one year ago) link
setting a reminder
― You can't spell Fearless without Earle (President Keyes), Tuesday, 13 September 2022 13:53 (one year ago) link
Probably scouting out prospective grave sites for Marla Maples and Tiffany.
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 13 September 2022 13:53 (one year ago) link
HOOS!
They'll tell you there's 2 noble truths, maybe if you're important you'll hear 3 of them -- but I'm the President, and I've seen all four (audience boos) thats right folks, 4 noble truths, and we don't care for that fourth one do we https://t.co/s5DIMLnRg7— justin jacoby smith (@hoosteen) September 13, 2022
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 14 September 2022 03:34 (one year ago) link
Two weeks apart (h/t @ShawnGarrett) pic.twitter.com/RL2xsOfM3u— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) September 16, 2022
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 17 September 2022 00:27 (one year ago) link
― You can't spell Fearless without Earle (President Keyes), Saturday, 17 September 2022 01:51 (one year ago) link
Anything he does apart from dying of sudden cardiac arrest is dud-dud-dud imo. It still seems incredible to me that out of the entire citizenry of the USA a person could rise to supreme power who is so thoroughly dud as to be incapable of exhibiting even one momentary humane quality.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Saturday, 17 September 2022 03:04 (one year ago) link
this is one of the most bizarre things I've seen at a Trump rally. All it is missing is passing around Kool-Aid right after. pic.twitter.com/BmPOztb7kA— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) September 18, 2022
Too bad they didn't...
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 18 September 2022 01:47 (one year ago) link
he directly compared JD Vance to Kim Jong Un
― frogbs, Sunday, 18 September 2022 02:01 (one year ago) link
wow sir very Hitleresque sir
― frogbs, Sunday, 18 September 2022 02:37 (one year ago) link
they are still putting michael the black man on camera. he's a murderer and a cult leader.
― formerly abanana (dat), Sunday, 18 September 2022 02:48 (one year ago) link
starting to believe this one really may matter
NYT- Trump was warned by his own attorneys to return the documents to the US government or face legal peril.Why didn’t he just return them? Because doing so would expose him & provide more proof that he shared classified information with third parties- a much bigger legal peril— Tom Joseph (@TomJChicago) September 20, 2022
― frogbs, Tuesday, 20 September 2022 02:30 (one year ago) link
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/donald-trump-says-he-wouldn-t-have-sat-back-there-at-queen-s-funeral-like-joe-biden/ar-AA120OAl
― StanM, Tuesday, 20 September 2022 04:31 (one year ago) link
FWIW, last week Trumpalos were distributing false news stories about how Trump had been Knighted during his presidency.
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 20 September 2022 04:47 (one year ago) link
When psychosis becomes a feature, not a bug.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 20 September 2022 13:29 (one year ago) link
According to Game of Thrones, you can be knighted by any other knight. Maybe Trump was knighted by Kevin Spacey?
― SincereLee 'Scratch' Perry (President Keyes), Tuesday, 20 September 2022 13:58 (one year ago) link
did u consider that *u* may be the fake news?!
― i eat ass with a knife and fork (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 20 September 2022 16:56 (one year ago) link
Everyone that attended the Klanbake in Ohio got one of these. pic.twitter.com/gdEweChQ95— Hoodlum 🇺🇸 (@NotHoodlum) September 19, 2022
During the presidency of President Donald Trump, it became evident to me that the prophecies about the Son of Man, as predicted by Jesus in the Bible were, to a significant extent, fulfilled at the hands of Mr Trump. The Bible speaks about two different Christs-or Messiahs. Jesus, the Son of God is the one Christ, whereas the Son of Man is the other. Jesus always referred to the Son of Man in the third person. The greatest distinction or significance between the Son of Man and the Son of God (the Lamb) is their respective positions at the throne of God. There are numerous differences between the Son of God and the Son of Man, but overall, people read these scriptures and they do not realize that the Son of God (the Lamb) stands in front of the throne of God, whereas the Son of Man, is positioned on the right hand of God. Jesus spoke about two different killings in the four gospels of the New Testament. People read these scriptures and are unaware that Jesus (the Son of God) predicted his own killing in the first person, as opposed to the several prophecies that He made in respects to the Son of Man who will be crucified. The New Testament speaks about "two Kings;" Jesus, the Son of God, is the "King of the Jews," whereas the Son of Man is the "King of Kings" who will be a world-ruler, and He will rule all the nations (the tribes) of the earth with a rod of iron. This book will explain in depth how "Donald John Trump's" full name literally means: "The Ruler of the World, graced by Yahweh (the LORD) and a descendant of a Drummer." Upon reading this book, the reader will be captivated when they realize how President Donald John Trump fulfilled most of the prophecies as the Son of Man. It speaks about End Time Prophecies and Biblical revelations regarding "President Donald J. Trump, the Son of Man. The Christ."
― SincereLee 'Scratch' Perry (President Keyes), Tuesday, 20 September 2022 19:01 (one year ago) link
President Donald J. Trump, the Son of Man. The Christ."
― Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 20 September 2022 19:15 (one year ago) link
Don’t forget the “descendant of a drummer” part
― tobo73, Tuesday, 20 September 2022 19:30 (one year ago) link
Must have been buddy Rich’s son
― Karl Malone, Tuesday, 20 September 2022 19:36 (one year ago) link
Or the drummer from Gay Dad.
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 20 September 2022 19:45 (one year ago) link
fun fact: Woody Guthrie wrote a song about Donald Trump's dad in an early attempt at resistance grifting
― SincereLee 'Scratch' Perry (President Keyes), Tuesday, 20 September 2022 19:53 (one year ago) link
Savage but deserved.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FdH5xvzWIAAM8dm.jpg
― but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 20 September 2022 19:56 (one year ago) link
hahahahaha
― DPRK in Cincinnati (WmC), Tuesday, 20 September 2022 20:00 (one year ago) link
Upon reading this book, the reader will be captivated when they realize how President Donald John Trump fulfilled most of the prophecies as the Son of Man. It speaks about End Time Prophecies and Biblical revelations regarding "President Donald J. Trump, the Son of Man. The Christ."
I'll admit I'm no biblical scholar. But how is this not blasphemy?
― politics is about vibes and the vibes are off (stevie), Tuesday, 20 September 2022 21:03 (one year ago) link
When you're famous they let you do it...
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 20 September 2022 21:13 (one year ago) link
It is. But like many things conservatives believe, they cherry-pick the parts that fit their agenda. xp
― Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 20 September 2022 21:13 (one year ago) link
Christ, what an asshole
― meat and two vdgg (emsworth), Tuesday, 20 September 2022 21:18 (one year ago) link
I mean, I suppose it's theoretically possible that he IS the Christ. Otherwise, it absolutely is.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 20 September 2022 22:14 (one year ago) link
Contemporary evangelicals don't care as much about "blasphemy" as more traditional christians did/do. Since televangelism & the prosperity gospel took hold of evangelicals, scripture is only used to support their own greed and the persecution of others (defacto trumpublican ideology), so this fellow grifter selling this dumb book citing Bible verses that he says make Trump the son of man is now closer to their actual religious beliefs than the European dogma that their religion grew out of.
― BrianB, Tuesday, 20 September 2022 22:22 (one year ago) link
technically speaking the first time Xtians proclaimed Jesus the Messiah, it was a gigantic retcon over the previous understood definition of "Messiah", so this kind of fits.
― i eat ass with a knife and fork (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 21 September 2022 02:50 (one year ago) link
wondering how long it will be before it's rebranded Trumpstianity
― i eat ass with a knife and fork (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 21 September 2022 02:52 (one year ago) link
the funniest thing about the quote above is that famous agnostic Biblical scholar Bart Ehrman actually agrees with the idea that Jesus was not referring to himself when he talked about the Son of Man (https://ehrmanblog.org/at-last-jesus-and-the-son-of-man/). so weird when these cultish weirdos actually inadvertently stumble upon an interesting thought before taking a malodorous dump all over it
― i eat ass with a knife and fork (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 21 September 2022 02:57 (one year ago) link
if the great religion of 19th cent usa was momronism, and the 20th was scyentology, the church of qanon/trump should really deliver for the 21st.
― i'm intentionally vague, intending to front multitudes (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 21 September 2022 03:43 (one year ago) link
I think mary baker eddy's christian science outdrew the mormons in the nineteenth century, but the LDS was built to be a fortress against outsiders and outlasted it.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 21 September 2022 03:47 (one year ago) link
From your lips to Trump's ears
― Bait Kush (Eric H.), Wednesday, 21 September 2022 03:54 (one year ago) link
it's time for another round of what white nonsense is this xpost
― i'm intentionally vague, intending to front multitudes (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 21 September 2022 03:57 (one year ago) link
descendant of a drummeranother and anotherdescendant of
― put their faith in a god-fearing man selling them tiny homes (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 21 September 2022 04:04 (one year ago) link
Very Jesus-like, sir
In 2019, Trump directed us to go and take immigrants from the border and, quote, bus and dump them into democratic cities but he was more specific. He wanted us to identify the murderers, the rapists, and the criminals, and in particular, make sure we did not incarcerate them. pic.twitter.com/e6WEPtBip7— Acyn (@Acyn) September 21, 2022
― frogbs, Wednesday, 21 September 2022 04:39 (one year ago) link
Upon reading this book, the reader will be captivated when they realize how President Donald John Trump fulfilled most of the prophecies as the Son of Man.
Most of the prophecies. Most of 'em. The important ones. You know.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 21 September 2022 05:09 (one year ago) link
― big movers, hot steppers + long shaker intros (breastcrawl), Wednesday, 21 September 2022 05:49 (one year ago) link
it would add a whiff of continuity, place it in that rich tradition
― big movers, hot steppers + long shaker intros (breastcrawl), Wednesday, 21 September 2022 06:05 (one year ago) link
when you think about it Trump really is a lot better than Jesus--
Has more money.
Builds big buildings, not just some carpenter.
Got three Supreme Courts picks, Jesus got zero.
Nobody killed him.
― SincereLee 'Scratch' Perry (President Keyes), Wednesday, 21 September 2022 14:01 (one year ago) link
I'm gonna say "yet" on that last one, and take a wait and see.
― Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 21 September 2022 14:10 (one year ago) link
well, if it happens he probably won't come back to life like some hippie zombie
― SincereLee 'Scratch' Perry (President Keyes), Wednesday, 21 September 2022 14:35 (one year ago) link
also,
Trump: bangs pornstarsJesus: hangs around sex-workers, but it's totally platonic
― SincereLee 'Scratch' Perry (President Keyes), Wednesday, 21 September 2022 14:37 (one year ago) link
Trump was under pressure to meet his father's expectations and match his achievements, Jesus had similar problems but with a more absentee father.
― Narada Michael Fagan (Tom D.), Wednesday, 21 September 2022 14:48 (one year ago) link
Trump doesn't drink.
Jesus turned water into wine. (Alcoholic?)
― SincereLee 'Scratch' Perry (President Keyes), Wednesday, 21 September 2022 14:52 (one year ago) link
tick tick tick?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHL7MfpBQQs
― SincereLee 'Scratch' Perry (President Keyes), Wednesday, 21 September 2022 15:05 (one year ago) link
CNN:
New York Attorney General Letitia James filed a civil fraud lawsuit Wednesday against former President Donald Trump, according to court records.
The case docket indicates the defendants are Donald J. Trump, Donald Trump Jr., Eric Trump, Ivanka Trump, Allen Weisselberg, Jeffrey Mcconney, The Donald J. Trump Revocable Trust, The Trump Organization, Inc., and other businesses associated with Trump.
― SincereLee 'Scratch' Perry (President Keyes), Wednesday, 21 September 2022 15:32 (one year ago) link
Add it to the list, I guess.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 21 September 2022 15:35 (one year ago) link
James is referring her findings to federal prosecutors in Manhattan, who could possibly open a criminal investigation into bank fraud, according to a footnote in the lawsuit.
Through "persistent and repeated business fraud," the Trumps convinced banks to lend money to the Trump Organization on more favorable terms than deserved, according to the lawsuit, which named the former president, three of his adult children, the company, and two of its executives, Allan Weisselberg and Jeff McConney.
― SincereLee 'Scratch' Perry (President Keyes), Wednesday, 21 September 2022 15:36 (one year ago) link
civil suit
trump is going to have to pay some money (or somehow he'll get someone else to pay it for him), 3 to 20 years down the line, after hundreds of appeals. plus they might get him to move his business operations to another state, like, i don't know, Florida, where the fascists seem to really love him. meanwhile he was actively trying to find immigrant murderers and put them in american cities so that he could prove his important point that immigrants are murderers
justice is served
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 21 September 2022 15:39 (one year ago) link
The civil lawsuit, filed Wednesday in State Supreme Court in Manhattan, seeks a $250 million judgment and a prohibition on any of the Trumps leading a company in the state of New York.Among other allegations, the suit claims that the former president’s Florida estate and golf resort, Mar-a-Lago, was valued as high as $739 million, but should have been valued at around one-tenth that amount, at $75 million. The suit says that higher valuation was "based on the false premise that it was unrestricted property and could be developed for residential use even though Mr. Trump himself signed deeds donating his residential development rights and sharply restricting changes to the property."
Among other allegations, the suit claims that the former president’s Florida estate and golf resort, Mar-a-Lago, was valued as high as $739 million, but should have been valued at around one-tenth that amount, at $75 million. The suit says that higher valuation was "based on the false premise that it was unrestricted property and could be developed for residential use even though Mr. Trump himself signed deeds donating his residential development rights and sharply restricting changes to the property."
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 21 September 2022 15:39 (one year ago) link
In other words, yeah, this will amount to shit some years down the line, but in the meantime, boy, I just bet it makes him really mad. Like, super mad. Maybe he'll counter sue for emotional damages?
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 21 September 2022 15:42 (one year ago) link
Not one fucking thing will come of this beyond a token fine years from now.
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 21 September 2022 15:44 (one year ago) link
well, even though it's a civil suit it seems a pretty thorough investigation was done, and it's being referred to state and federal prosecutors as well as the IRS. Maybe not much will happen, but nothing at all would happen without this step.
― SincereLee 'Scratch' Perry (President Keyes), Wednesday, 21 September 2022 15:48 (one year ago) link
Oh, I don't disagree, it's just the last, I don't know, ten years or so have convinced me that there are just simply no actual consequences whatsoever for rich white men. None.
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 21 September 2022 15:56 (one year ago) link
let's see if the feds act on it. if they do, it's hard for me to imagine that they'll complete the "investigation" (even though NYS just did it for them) before the 2024 election, which of course, starts the day after the mid-term
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 21 September 2022 15:58 (one year ago) link
we can't charge him with federal crimes! he's trying to be the president again!
I'm more interested in state prosecution, since he can't be pardoned by a GOP President for that.
― SincereLee 'Scratch' Perry (President Keyes), Wednesday, 21 September 2022 16:02 (one year ago) link
Maybe he'll counter sue for emotional damages?
Apparently his recent attempted suit against Hillary Clinton for 'Russiagate' was so laughably badly written that the judge promptly tossed it
― Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 21 September 2022 16:17 (one year ago) link
"... there are just simply no actual consequences whatsoever for rich white men. None."
I don't know, Epstein got a consequence.
― nickn, Wednesday, 21 September 2022 16:41 (one year ago) link
One potential problem Trump could face in responding to multiple civil and criminal suits filed in multiple venues is that he'll need to assemble a large legal team to cope with them and the type of firms who could do this at a high level of competence have watched how Trump operates and very likely won't take him as a client. He's down to scraping the bottom of the barrel in terms of legal talent willing to represent him.
Look how well Alex Jones, who is both white and very wealthy, is doing with his incompetent legal team. There is room to hope that Trump will see some substantial consequences.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 21 September 2022 17:15 (one year ago) link
Alex Jones, for talking shit about parents of dead kids back in 2012.
It is a testament to our legal system that even the shittiest lawyers hired by the shittiest people for the crimiest crimes can stretch these cases out for decades
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 21 September 2022 17:26 (one year ago) link
Exactly. He'll be dead before it gets around to any ramifications for him. Sure, his shitty offspring might be around to feel the sting, but he won't.
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 21 September 2022 17:28 (one year ago) link
I'd settle for him being dead as a consolation prize.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 21 September 2022 17:30 (one year ago) link
Trump should be sentenced to never being allowed to shower or change his underwear again
― i eat ass with a knife and fork (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 21 September 2022 17:42 (one year ago) link
nothing will happen. the DA who would prosecute this as a criminal case has already declined. in principal he can change his mind, but he won't.
good work AOC anyway
Trump can thank @AOC for this @NewYorkStateAG lawsuit https://t.co/KcDOzzNaQF— Mike Sacks (@MikeSacksEsq) September 21, 2022
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 21 September 2022 18:28 (one year ago) link
The defamation suits against Jones were filed in Texas in 2018 and the verdicts arrived at in 2022. And there was a pandemic that made a total mess of court dockets inserted in that time frame. Just sayin' that not every suit takes ten years to resolve.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 21 September 2022 18:46 (one year ago) link
true but there is no one more skilled at delaying litigation than Trump. dude knows all the tricks and virtually every motion he files for is just an attempt to stall things further. he pleaded for a special master, got one who was firmly in his camp, and refused to even cooperate with that. it's all a show.
― frogbs, Wednesday, 21 September 2022 18:53 (one year ago) link
also, didn't the judge (the one confirmed in the days after january 6) who allowed the special master already state that she would take the special master's findings under review but could override them herself as she saw fit?
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 21 September 2022 19:05 (one year ago) link
https://www.cnn.com/2022/09/21/politics/appeals-court-mar-a-lago-criminal-classified-documents/index.html
― i eat ass with a knife and fork (Neanderthal), Thursday, 22 September 2022 01:01 (one year ago) link
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/donald-trump-classified-documents-justice-department-11th-circuit-court-of-appeals-stay/
― i eat ass with a knife and fork (Neanderthal), Thursday, 22 September 2022 01:04 (one year ago) link
two of the justices were Trump appointees too, lol
― i eat ass with a knife and fork (Neanderthal), Thursday, 22 September 2022 01:05 (one year ago) link
By the end of this clip, Trump almost completely decomposes.If you saw someone on a sidewalk talking this way, you’d put your phone to your ear, stare at the ground and cross the street as fast as possible. Via @atrupar pic.twitter.com/SFUI8jOr4o— Bill Grueskin (@BGrueskin) September 22, 2022
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 22 September 2022 02:55 (one year ago) link
Brain visibly collapsing in on itself there.
― circa1916, Thursday, 22 September 2022 03:10 (one year ago) link
remarkable how raddled and unkempt he looks there, like they dragged him from bed to do the interview
― assert (matttkkkk), Thursday, 22 September 2022 05:10 (one year ago) link
Hillary? LOL
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 22 September 2022 12:54 (one year ago) link
hey, FOX calls him "former president." Progress.
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 22 September 2022 13:33 (one year ago) link
― circa1916,
Trump's too.
Slightly loving how painful it clearly is for Hannity to have to keep Trump from stepping on third rails in these interviews, and how unable Trump is to keep from treading from those third rails.
Maybe I'm dead and watching Hannity in Hell/purgatory?
― politics is about vibes and the vibes are off (stevie), Thursday, 22 September 2022 13:44 (one year ago) link
sounds like he's doing an impression of James Austin Johnson at times
― SincereLee 'Scratch' Perry (President Keyes), Thursday, 22 September 2022 13:53 (one year ago) link
I mean, as usual Trump will skate on this documents thing because there's probably no specific law that says a President can't declassify thing "by just thinking about it."
― SincereLee 'Scratch' Perry (President Keyes), Thursday, 22 September 2022 14:06 (one year ago) link
By that reasoning, he's declassified 75% of Mr. Skin.
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 22 September 2022 15:05 (one year ago) link
A journalist should send him the equivalent of a FOIA request. "Since you've declassified all these documents simply by waving your stubby paws over them, sir, may we read them now, too?"
― but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 22 September 2022 15:09 (one year ago) link
Iirc a couple of people/organizations already did!
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 22 September 2022 15:10 (one year ago) link
Has he ever attempted to explain why he "declassified" them and took them to Mar-a-Lago? I can't keep up.
― lord of the rongs (anagram), Thursday, 22 September 2022 15:11 (one year ago) link
they were just time magazines with him on the cover, he wanted to look at them in his free time
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 22 September 2022 15:12 (one year ago) link
xpost Because he wanted to catch up on his work now that he doesn't have at that coup-plotting stuff to distract him.
― SincereLee 'Scratch' Perry (President Keyes), Thursday, 22 September 2022 15:27 (one year ago) link
all that
Some of those documents can't be declassified by anybody, even the President
― i eat ass with a knife and fork (Neanderthal), Thursday, 22 September 2022 16:29 (one year ago) link
“That was appropriately quick," former prosecutor @MitchellEpner noted. https://t.co/dlnbFe1Nzp— Adam Klasfeld (@KlasfeldReports) September 22, 2022
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 22 September 2022 16:42 (one year ago) link
supposedly this change she's made means that the stay can't be appealed to SCOTUS anymore
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Thursday, 22 September 2022 16:58 (one year ago) link
He got a get-out-of-jail-early card, and to protect dozens and dozens of his clients in the process.
― Vance Vance Devolution (sic), Thursday, 22 September 2022 17:56 (one year ago) link
anything can be appealed to scotus as scotus isn't following rules any more
― formerly abanana (dat), Thursday, 22 September 2022 18:28 (one year ago) link
the old court order was vacated and a newer one was issued, so there is no old order in force to appeal
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 22 September 2022 18:32 (one year ago) link
Haberman describes Rep. Debbie Dingell (D-Mich.) getting a phone call from an unknown number. “When she answered, the man on the other end identified himself as a Washington Post reporter, and said he knew her husband from his investigations in Congress. The name he gave was not one she recognized. The man asked Dingell if she was looking for an apology from Trump. No, she replied, merely that people could be civil to one another. As the man talked, Dingell couldn’t shake the idea that his voice sounded like that of the forty-fifth president.”
― President Keyes, Wednesday, 28 September 2022 15:25 (one year ago) link
Phony call very much in character.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 28 September 2022 15:31 (one year ago) link
Newly released Jan. 6 body-worn camera footage shows the mob using an enormous TRUMP sign as a battering ram against police. pic.twitter.com/8pPMupf2cn— Ryan J. Reilly (@ryanjreilly) September 28, 2022
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 28 September 2022 16:39 (one year ago) link
It may be new footage, but the only real reason for recasting this as 'news' is because most people in the USA have forgotten how they felt on Jan. 6, 2021 while watching all this in real time and half of them have had false memories implanted by the Trumpian media.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 28 September 2022 16:43 (one year ago) link
Literally a false flag, it clearly says "dWURT" or something.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 28 September 2022 16:46 (one year ago) link
tbh even I was skeptical of the idea that prominent Republicans including the President himself would've been involved in organizing this but I guess I forgot Trump rule #1 which is that things are always worse than they look
― frogbs, Wednesday, 28 September 2022 17:20 (one year ago) link
wow speaking of
NEW: Remember when Trump took a trip to Japan back in 2019 and reports surfaced that the WH requested the move the USS John McCain out of view so it wouldn't upset Trump? Well, I #FOIA'd the military for docs about this & 3 yrs later they just arrived"This just makes me sad" pic.twitter.com/GeJwQIn57S— Jason Leopold (@JasonLeopold) September 29, 2022
actually remember some rightwingers chastising people for believing this "obviously fake" story
― frogbs, Thursday, 29 September 2022 04:16 (one year ago) link
https://www.theguardian.com/books/2022/sep/29/trump-theresa-may-boris-johnson-maggie-haberman-book
“He just grabbed it,” May told aides. “What can I do?”
― the cold light of today (Matt #2), Thursday, 29 September 2022 07:42 (one year ago) link
you just grab em by the, er, hand
― StanM, Thursday, 29 September 2022 10:16 (one year ago) link
"This just makes me sad" for October US Politics thread.
― i need to put some clouds behind the reaper (PBKR), Thursday, 29 September 2022 13:07 (one year ago) link
Apparently he's on quite a truth rant tonight, must be more bad news coming. Even for him, particularly unhinged, not the least of which is some extremely racist shit aimed at McConnell's wife.
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Saturday, 1 October 2022 01:42 (one year ago) link
I don't usually share his posts, but this is insane. pic.twitter.com/95gDKhjTWP— Christopher Bouzy (@cbouzy) September 30, 2022
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 1 October 2022 02:11 (one year ago) link
Holy fucking shit. He's losing what little self control he had.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Saturday, 1 October 2022 17:44 (one year ago) link
his what now?
― StanM, Saturday, 1 October 2022 19:02 (one year ago) link
yeah idk what kinda goodwill you are extending him that he ~ever~ had that
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 1 October 2022 19:18 (one year ago) link
I'm sure he's turned down a third Big Mac from time to time.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Saturday, 1 October 2022 19:28 (one year ago) link
a group of women who appear to be nuns are at the Trump rally in Warren, Michigan (Getty) pic.twitter.com/8DhAeB1jxa— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) October 1, 2022
"Six nuns walk into a Trump rally..."
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 1 October 2022 23:56 (one year ago) link
They were at another recent rally of his too. They can’t be real, they’re probably the female equivalent of the trad cats men who wear capes.
― sweating like Cathy *aaaack* (Boring, Maryland), Sunday, 2 October 2022 00:02 (one year ago) link
*cath
Six Nuns and 2000 Mules
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 2 October 2022 00:09 (one year ago) link
nones
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 2 October 2022 00:11 (one year ago) link
2000 Mules for Sister Sara (and her 5 friends)
― nickn, Sunday, 2 October 2022 00:14 (one year ago) link
Kind of wish Sister Wendy was still around to do a show about Trump fan art.
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 2 October 2022 00:20 (one year ago) link
How do you solve a problem like the Donald
― the floor is guava (Ye Mad Puffin), Sunday, 2 October 2022 01:20 (one year ago) link
do you find trump merch in charity shoppes over there these days? i'd kind of like one of those "TRUMP - AT LAST A PRESIDENT WITH BALLS" tshirts
― donald wears yer troosers (doo rag), Sunday, 2 October 2022 05:02 (one year ago) link
Doin' the Vatican drag
― *wonders what he's got himself into* (Matt #2), Sunday, 2 October 2022 08:22 (one year ago) link
https://www.ncronline.org/news/people/religious-life/record-michigan-nuns-trump-rally-are-not-really-nuns
― peace, man, Sunday, 2 October 2022 18:10 (one year ago) link
i for one am shocked
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 2 October 2022 20:30 (one year ago) link
He's a hard habit to break.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 3 October 2022 17:03 (one year ago) link
being without him takes a lot of getting used toyou learn to live with it
― stank viola (Neanderthal), Monday, 3 October 2022 17:07 (one year ago) link
CNN must be shaking in their loafers:
In the lawsuit filed Monday, Trump’s attorneys claim CNN “has sought to use its massive influence — purportedly as a ‘trusted’ news source — to defame the Plaintiff in the minds of its viewers and readers for the purpose of defeating him politically, culminating in CNN claiming credit for ‘(getting) Trump out’ in the 2020 presidential election.”
The former president is seeking $475 million in punitive damages, according to the lawsuit...
― Andy the Grasshopper, Monday, 3 October 2022 22:58 (one year ago) link
Wait'll he finds out CNN is now owned by one of his supporters.
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 3 October 2022 23:00 (one year ago) link
The filing of the suit and the $475 million amount were publicized, therefore it has already accomplished its whole mission. It'll get 1/10th of the attention when it's tossed out.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Monday, 3 October 2022 23:06 (one year ago) link
They can’t be real, they’re probably the female equivalent of the trad cats men who wear capes.
Red Scare Patreon bonus level
― papal hotwife (milo z), Monday, 3 October 2022 23:17 (one year ago) link
Trump says pollster told him: “If George Washington and Abraham Lincoln came alive from the dead and formed a President and VP team, you would beat them by 40%.” pic.twitter.com/dlsQvCavdP— Ron Filipkowski 🇺🇦 (@RonFilipkowski) October 5, 2022
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 5 October 2022 21:14 (one year ago) link
He said, "Sir . . ."
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 5 October 2022 21:19 (one year ago) link
I knew it before I even listened to the clip. It's one of his "tells."
It's never, "...this is a Wendy's."
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 5 October 2022 21:23 (one year ago) link
beyond parody"and Abraham ... *Lincoln* ..."
― assert (matttkkkk), Wednesday, 5 October 2022 23:01 (one year ago) link
'.. just prior to the plague..' is crucial here
― Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 5 October 2022 23:29 (one year ago) link
By the way, "RSBN"? Is this the network for people who think Newsmax is staffed by bed wetting liberals?
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 5 October 2022 23:38 (one year ago) link
Right Side Broadcasting Network (RSBN) is a pro-free speech network dedicated to bringing the TRUTH to the American people and the world
Actually founded in 2015, I've never heard of it either
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 6 October 2022 00:04 (one year ago) link
our hero, the man who fucked america in the ass
― donald wears yer troosers (doo rag), Thursday, 6 October 2022 00:07 (one year ago) link
I swear, we (and I dont just mean ILX I mean reddit and twitter and etc) need to stop giving these pissant media groups and social media platforms any oxygen. If we all stopped listening to/talking about him COMPLETELY, this would wither and dry up and die.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Thursday, 6 October 2022 00:15 (one year ago) link
It's been grimly, terrifyingly fascinating to me how, following the election and Jan 6, as Fox News has ever-so-slightly pivoted its lips away from Trump's asshole, channels like OAN, etc, have gained more visibility.
― politics is about vibes and the vibes are off (stevie), Thursday, 6 October 2022 09:27 (one year ago) link
when yr dependent you don't rly care who yr dealer is, u gotta get some more of that trump? kids w hustle always out there lol
― i'm intentionally vague, intending to front multitudes (Hunt3r), Thursday, 6 October 2022 14:22 (one year ago) link
is that… dirt https://t.co/Nq9IhGlHQa— kilgore trout, death to putiner (@KT_So_It_Goes) October 10, 2022
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 10 October 2022 02:40 (one year ago) link
"servant leadership" is one of those phrases that will turn you into a 2009 reddit atheist without you even realizing it
― papal hotwife (milo z), Monday, 10 October 2022 02:43 (one year ago) link
the carpet looks great but what about how antifa spraypainted blue all over the stripes of our blessed american flag?
― Karl Malone, Monday, 10 October 2022 03:37 (one year ago) link
this is dirt with curtains on one side, a sparkling clean red rug, and a couple flags we got on discount because they had bright blue stains on them. sir we love you
― Karl Malone, Monday, 10 October 2022 03:38 (one year ago) link
https://frinkiac.com/video/S04E21/KTiXD8RnSMQOueQArPyrydIJWlY=.gif
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 10 October 2022 04:02 (one year ago) link
She should call four seasons landscaping they do great work
― i'm intentionally vague, intending to front multitudes (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 11 October 2022 13:39 (one year ago) link
Isn't she gonna rake all those unsightly footprints in the sand? Slacker
― Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 11 October 2022 16:32 (one year ago) link
Psycho ex-president Trump posts bizarre video vowing revenge. Put him in prison now, this motherfu*ker is dangerous. pic.twitter.com/u3iY4Q44eG— Mike Sington (@MikeSington) October 11, 2022
― “uhh”—like, this is an insane oatmeal raisin cookie “uhh” (President Keyes), Tuesday, 11 October 2022 16:39 (one year ago) link
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 11 October 2022 16:45 (one year ago) link
I mean, it's a Christopher Walken monologue from a movie, but Trump did post it
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/donald-trump-video-documentary-truth-social-b2199939.html
― “uhh”—like, this is an insane oatmeal raisin cookie “uhh” (President Keyes), Tuesday, 11 October 2022 16:50 (one year ago) link
ha, thought it was Abel Ferrara
― Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 11 October 2022 16:59 (one year ago) link
You are like a lion, sir, they all said, a lion who is being provoked my jackals in your midst, sir
― Karl Malone, Tuesday, 11 October 2022 17:47 (one year ago) link
Remember when a lion could eat everything in its path? Everything, it was beautiful. Then Obama started putting in the restrictions. Gluten-free, they call it. Hard to be a lion when you're gluten-free.
― sometimes you have to drink to kill the paranoia (PBKR), Tuesday, 11 October 2022 17:56 (one year ago) link
when I think jackal, I think Devon Nunes
― Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 11 October 2022 18:12 (one year ago) link
He’s more a remora
― Lord Pickles (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 11 October 2022 19:24 (one year ago) link
This really is how Trump sees himself.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 11 October 2022 20:06 (one year ago) link
It’s weird how we don’t remember who trump is and need him to remind us. With his fury.
― i'm intentionally vague, intending to front multitudes (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 11 October 2022 20:47 (one year ago) link
His leonine nature.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 11 October 2022 20:59 (one year ago) link
It's a weird parable for him to glom onto as a political message: his opponents, the jackals, saw his wife & kids disrepecting him, so they thought that they could mess with him too, so he's gotta eat everything in his path to show them who's boss... vote Trump 2024!
― BrianB, Tuesday, 11 October 2022 21:47 (one year ago) link
You're probably reading too much into it. His thought processes stop at "I'm a lion!"
― Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 11 October 2022 21:54 (one year ago) link
it's kind of a bit of a burn on his own family, too. in the well-known parable - everybody has Poolhall Junkies memorized by this point, right? - the strong lion first revealed its weakness by letting his lion cubs nibble at his ear in the full view of others. the lion should have eaten his cubs as soon as they showed disobedience, sir
― Karl Malone, Tuesday, 11 October 2022 22:09 (one year ago) link
He has nice kids though
Love checking in on my boy pic.twitter.com/RBz3L55NIQ— Ashley Feinberg (@ashleyfeinberg) October 4, 2022
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 11 October 2022 22:29 (one year ago) link
They seriously are the “Best Value” Targaryens.— Cory vs The Evil Dead (@MrCoryPants) October 4, 2022
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 11 October 2022 23:58 (one year ago) link
so gross
― treeship., Wednesday, 12 October 2022 00:15 (one year ago) link
https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/10/15/truth-social-trump-animosity-whistleblower/
Love to see the true believers get caught in the grift.
― DPRK in Cincinnati (WmC), Sunday, 16 October 2022 01:49 (one year ago) link
Will Wilkerson, then an executive at former president Donald Trump’s start-up Trump Media & Technology Group, was at a Fort Lauderdale, Fla., coffee shop with company co-founder Andy Litinsky last October when Trump called Litinsky with a question: Would he give up some of his shares to Trump’s wife, Melania?
Trump Media, the owner of the fledgling social network Truth Social, had just been boosted by a huge merger agreement and a flood of investment that had made the stake worth millions of dollars. Trump had already been given 90 percent of the company’s shares in exchange for the use of his name and some minor involvement, leaving everyone else to split the rest.
Litinsky tried to brush it off, telling Trump “the gift would have meant a huge tax bill he couldn’t pay,” Wilkerson said in an interview. “Trump didn’t care. He said, ‘Do whatever you need to do.’ ”
Five months later, Litinsky, who first met Trump in 2004 as a contestant on the TV show “The Apprentice,” was abruptly removed from the company’s board. Wilkerson said he believes it was payback for his refusal to turn over a small fortune to the former president’s wife. Litinsky thought so, too, according to an email Wilkerson and his attorneys shared with The Washington Post and the Securities and Exchange Commission. In that email, Litinsky complained that Trump was “retaliating against me” by threatening to “ ‘blow up the company’ if his demands are not met.”
― DPRK in Cincinnati (WmC), Sunday, 16 October 2022 01:50 (one year ago) link
Something off about this Trump guy
― “uhh”—like, this is an insane oatmeal raisin cookie “uhh” (President Keyes), Sunday, 16 October 2022 01:55 (one year ago) link
just an update on bannon's sentencing for refusing to show up for the jan 6 committee subpoena, since it might provide a rough timeline of how long it would might possibly take for trump to face consequences for not showing up for his own subpoena. bannon is the only other guy to get charged with this in 50+ years. after the sentencing, he will appeal, and it'll take until next summer at the earliest. so, about a year and a half after refusing to show up?
Before I get into DOJ's Steve Bannon's sentencing memo, keep in mind that Bannon's sentence will be appealed. Bannon is HIGHLY unlikely to go to jail until next summer, at the earlier. And this is being written for Carl Nichols, who favors the appeal. https://t.co/bNpfHgjGAs— emptywheel (@emptywheel) October 17, 2022
assuming trump refuses to show up this fall, the miracle that he is actually held accountable for this and is punished for the same thing any of us would be punished for, and that it is appealed and the appealing judge isn't corrupt, that puts trump's 30 day sentence in jail (lol, it seems so impossible that it would ever, ever happen as i type this) some time in late spring/early summer 2024? this sounds incredibly plausible, can't wait to see him go to jail in the middle of his campaign to openly steal the election
― Karl Malone, Monday, 17 October 2022 14:32 (one year ago) link
I feel like this timing would help his campaign. Mandela vibes.
― treeship., Monday, 17 October 2022 15:05 (one year ago) link
a judge will probably rule that the subpoena is going to be dropped in January anyway
― “uhh”—like, this is an insane oatmeal raisin cookie “uhh” (President Keyes), Monday, 17 October 2022 15:14 (one year ago) link
yeah. and even if the democrats keep the house, no one will ever give a fuck about this subpoena that he'll never show up to. the only way it will be remembered is if it stands as the last action of the jan 6 committee, if nothing else comes out of it. and then it will be remembered as a complete fucking joke
― Karl Malone, Monday, 17 October 2022 15:16 (one year ago) link
Trump’s company charged Secret Service ‘exorbitant’ hotel rates to protect the first family, House committee report says
https://www.cnn.com/2022/10/17/politics/trump-secret-service-hotel-rates/index.html
"One thing about us wise guys, the hustle never ends."
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 17 October 2022 17:40 (one year ago) link
"Muh tax dollars!"
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 17 October 2022 17:49 (one year ago) link
"He sold us $350,000 screwdrivers because he's smart!"
― “uhh”—like, this is an insane oatmeal raisin cookie “uhh” (President Keyes), Monday, 17 October 2022 18:12 (one year ago) link
may have resulted in a taxpayer-funded windfall for former President Trump’s struggling businesses
weren't they also forcing air force planes to refuel at some obscure base in Scotland so the crews would be forced to stay at one of his golf courses?
― Andy the Grasshopper, Monday, 17 October 2022 19:04 (one year ago) link
That was in reference to Trump implying there was a secretive weapons system he controlled. “I have built a weapons system that nobody’s ever had in this country before,” Trump said in an interview, before referring to Russian President Vladimir Putin and Chinese President Xi Jinping. “We have stuff that you haven’t even seen or heard about. We have stuff that Putin and Xi have never heard about before.”Trump’s long obsessions with strongmen leaders — and Kim in particular — comes through in the interviews. Throughout their conversations, Trump repeats the false claim that former president Barack Obama tried 11 times to reach Kim with no success.Woodward points out that Trump’s own military advisers have warned him that Kim “lies through his teeth to you,” and that Obama made no attempts to speak with Kim himself.“Kim Jong Un gave you bad information on that,” Woodward tells Trump at one point. “I don’t think that’s true.”But Trump is not persuaded, choosing to believe Kim over his own advisers.“Obama called 11 times,” Trump insists. “They showed me the records in Korea. I’m very close to this man. Very close.”In a later interview, Trump boasts that he averted a war with North Korea, again repeating his false claim about Obama and choosing to believe Kim over his own military team: “Obama wanted, 11 times he tried,” Trump says. “Kim Jong Un told me. Eleven times.”
Trump’s long obsessions with strongmen leaders — and Kim in particular — comes through in the interviews. Throughout their conversations, Trump repeats the false claim that former president Barack Obama tried 11 times to reach Kim with no success.
Woodward points out that Trump’s own military advisers have warned him that Kim “lies through his teeth to you,” and that Obama made no attempts to speak with Kim himself.
“Kim Jong Un gave you bad information on that,” Woodward tells Trump at one point. “I don’t think that’s true.”
But Trump is not persuaded, choosing to believe Kim over his own advisers.
“Obama called 11 times,” Trump insists. “They showed me the records in Korea. I’m very close to this man. Very close.”
In a later interview, Trump boasts that he averted a war with North Korea, again repeating his false claim about Obama and choosing to believe Kim over his own military team: “Obama wanted, 11 times he tried,” Trump says. “Kim Jong Un told me. Eleven times.”
11 times, kim jong un told him
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 19 October 2022 15:11 (one year ago) link
1. Kim was washing his hair;2. Took his sister to brunch, couldn't take the call3. Busy with missile test4. Murdering uncle with anti-aircraft gun, try back later5: Playing Xbox, not a good time6. etc. etc.
― Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 19 October 2022 16:30 (one year ago) link
Breaking:NEW YORK (AP) — Former President Donald Trump has been deposed in defamation suit filed by rape accuser E. Jean Carroll, her lawyers say.— Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) October 19, 2022
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 19 October 2022 23:44 (one year ago) link
it's crazy how many times people have mistakenly thought he did something horrible
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 19 October 2022 23:45 (one year ago) link
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/ca-judge-finds-trump-likely-lied-to-court-in-georgia-big-lie-case
President Trump knew that data supposedly showing voter fraud in the 2020 election was false, but signed a court document attesting to it regardless, a federal judge said on Wednesday.U.S. District Judge David Carter for the Central District of California found that Trump likely lied to a Georgia federal court in December 2020, when he claimed that Fulton County had counted the votes of the dead, convicted felons, and unregistered voters.Trump had already filed a lawsuit making the claims in Georgia state court.But when the former President’s legal team began to consider moving the state court case to federal court, Trump attorney John Eastman realized that the data was flawed, Carter found.“Although the President signed a verification for [the state court filing] back on Dec. 1, he has since been made aware that some of the allegations (and evidence proffered by the experts) has been inaccurate,” Eastman wrote in a Dec. 5, 2020 email cited by Carter. “For him to sign a new verification with that knowledge (and incorporation by reference) would not be accurate.”Trump and his lawyers ended up filing the federal lawsuit with the faulty information anyway, Carter said. The judge remarked that the federal lawsuit was filed “without rectifying, clarifying, or otherwise changing” the incorrect data.
U.S. District Judge David Carter for the Central District of California found that Trump likely lied to a Georgia federal court in December 2020, when he claimed that Fulton County had counted the votes of the dead, convicted felons, and unregistered voters.
Trump had already filed a lawsuit making the claims in Georgia state court.
But when the former President’s legal team began to consider moving the state court case to federal court, Trump attorney John Eastman realized that the data was flawed, Carter found.
“Although the President signed a verification for [the state court filing] back on Dec. 1, he has since been made aware that some of the allegations (and evidence proffered by the experts) has been inaccurate,” Eastman wrote in a Dec. 5, 2020 email cited by Carter. “For him to sign a new verification with that knowledge (and incorporation by reference) would not be accurate.”
Trump and his lawyers ended up filing the federal lawsuit with the faulty information anyway, Carter said. The judge remarked that the federal lawsuit was filed “without rectifying, clarifying, or otherwise changing” the incorrect data.
how does he keep getting blamed for this stuff? get a life, people!!
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 19 October 2022 23:53 (one year ago) link
"deposed" as in deposition... boring
I was hoping it was more deposed like Ceaușescu
― Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 19 October 2022 23:53 (one year ago) link
disposed
― treeship., Thursday, 20 October 2022 00:17 (one year ago) link
I really think he made a deal with Morgoth that he can get away with anything an then when he dies his soul becomes a giant tarantula for eternity
― | (Latham Green), Thursday, 20 October 2022 00:26 (one year ago) link
Trump's legendary sense of humorhttps://www.businessinsider.com/trump-joked-scotus-leaker-threat-be-bride-of-a-prisoner-2022-10
― StanM, Wednesday, 26 October 2022 11:55 (one year ago) link
I didn't know they made glasses in this shade of rose-tinted:
https://www.newsweek.com/2022/11/04/sweet-revenge-what-trump-would-do-second-term-1754654.html
Bolton, too, can envision Trump trying to hang on past a second term. But he also suggests an alternative, far more benign vision of how Trump might cope with the hard stop that in principle awaits him at the end of that term. "In a second term, Trump will start thinking about his legacy," he says. "He doesn't want to go down in history as a loser. And because his supporters can't vote for him anymore, he won't care what they think."Liberated from having to play to his base, says Bolton, Trump may attempt to establish himself as someone who can restore balance to a deeply polarized America, putting behind him the fact that he himself is responsible for much of that polarization. "People think Trump is a conservative, but he's not," says Bolton. "Jared [Kushner, his son-in-law and former advisor] and Ivanka [Trump, his daughter and former advisor] are basically Manhattan liberals. If they said to him his next Supreme Court nomination should be a liberal, he might listen."The notion that Trump has been playing at being an arch-conservative to fire up his base isn't that fantastic; he was a registered Democrat for eight years until 2009. A Trump 47 who dropped his flamethrower to pick up a fire extinguisher might be a possibility. He showed hints of being a bridge-builder early in his first term.Bolton is quick to hedge that bet. "In the Trump universe," he says, "you can't rule anything out."
Liberated from having to play to his base, says Bolton, Trump may attempt to establish himself as someone who can restore balance to a deeply polarized America, putting behind him the fact that he himself is responsible for much of that polarization. "People think Trump is a conservative, but he's not," says Bolton. "Jared [Kushner, his son-in-law and former advisor] and Ivanka [Trump, his daughter and former advisor] are basically Manhattan liberals. If they said to him his next Supreme Court nomination should be a liberal, he might listen."
The notion that Trump has been playing at being an arch-conservative to fire up his base isn't that fantastic; he was a registered Democrat for eight years until 2009. A Trump 47 who dropped his flamethrower to pick up a fire extinguisher might be a possibility. He showed hints of being a bridge-builder early in his first term.
Bolton is quick to hedge that bet. "In the Trump universe," he says, "you can't rule anything out."
― Eric H., Wednesday, 26 October 2022 18:36 (one year ago) link
He showed hints of being a bridge-builder early in his first term.
was that before or after the muslim ban
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 26 October 2022 18:42 (one year ago) link
I think it's when he said the words "infrastructure week"
― rob, Wednesday, 26 October 2022 18:54 (one year ago) link
Maybe when he evoked the specter of "American carnage" in his inauguration speech. That was a real moment of coming together.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 26 October 2022 18:54 (one year ago) link
Pretty sure was willing to ogle, grab, assault, and/or demean women from BOTH parties.
― blissfully unawarewolf (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 26 October 2022 19:03 (one year ago) link
I think he spoke for all Americans when he told the 7 year-old kid that at his age it was "marginal" to still believe in Santa Claus.
― henry s, Wednesday, 26 October 2022 19:06 (one year ago) link
― Vance Vance Devolution (sic), Wednesday, 26 October 2022 20:41 (one year ago) link
The one hilarious thing from Trump’s insane inauguration speech was George W Bush allegedly saying to his companions when it was over:”Well THAT was fucked up”.
― Lord Pickles (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 26 October 2022 21:40 (one year ago) link
the day george w bush finally became president
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 26 October 2022 21:43 (one year ago) link
I think it was, "That was some weird shit," which somehow is even funnier.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 26 October 2022 21:53 (one year ago) link
Roy Cohn taught him well.. when threatened, counter-attack:
In the latest lawsuit - which was filed to the Florida State Circuit Court - Mr Trump accused Ms James of "a relentless, pernicious, public and unapologetic crusade" against him and the Trump Organization.
He also alleges that the attorney general's own case against him is a "plot" to obtain control of his business that began as a "cartoonish, thinly-veiled effort to publicly malign" the former president.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-63501157
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 3 November 2022 19:27 (one year ago) link
As a counter attack that's not worth a bucket of warm piss in regards the court system. it only works when the media picks it up, makes a story out of it, and his bogus claims get quoted as serious litigation.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 3 November 2022 19:29 (one year ago) link
which the media obligingly does for him, bcz their interests overlap.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 3 November 2022 19:30 (one year ago) link
It's wild seeing someone tweeting from a fake verified Trump account, openly question why they hadn't gotten suspended yet, and then continue going for another full day. pic.twitter.com/FdTcpF0J8l— Parker Molloy (@ParkerMolloy) November 12, 2022
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 12 November 2022 23:21 (one year ago) link
"I call him king" -- Trump on President Xi pic.twitter.com/lPJqGGsEED— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) November 16, 2022
― the pinefox, Wednesday, 16 November 2022 09:44 (one year ago) link
Pivot! https://t.co/13LKY8bQwK— Roy Edroso (@edroso) November 16, 2022
― ex-McKinsey wonk who looks like a human version of a rat (Eric H.), Wednesday, 16 November 2022 15:43 (one year ago) link
Some people tried to leave his speech last night partway through and apparently security wouldn't let them leave, they were locked in until the end.
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 16 November 2022 16:00 (one year ago) link
Welcome to the Hotel Maralago
― “uhh”—like, this is an insane oatmeal raisin cookie “uhh” (President Keyes), Wednesday, 16 November 2022 16:14 (one year ago) link
At what point does that count as kidnapping?
― jmm, Wednesday, 16 November 2022 16:17 (one year ago) link
Flashing onto Carrie closing the doors on those two suckers at the prom.
― ex-McKinsey wonk who looks like a human version of a rat (Eric H.), Wednesday, 16 November 2022 16:17 (one year ago) link
lol President Keyes!
― Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 16 November 2022 16:18 (one year ago) link
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0),
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9r70KNoEFLc
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 16 November 2022 16:19 (one year ago) link
the fact that he is even able to run at all is a sad sign for America and the world
― | (Latham Green), Wednesday, 16 November 2022 16:20 (one year ago) link
I turned on his speech last night and he was talking about the Carters. I was like wtf?
― “uhh”—like, this is an insane oatmeal raisin cookie “uhh” (President Keyes), Wednesday, 16 November 2022 16:22 (one year ago) link
Trump goes on strange riff about taking back the "carters of power". pic.twitter.com/DJndyCAq4B— Josh Marshall (@joshtpm) November 16, 2022
Bien sûr, Soto's movie reference is classier than mine
― ex-McKinsey wonk who looks like a human version of a rat (Eric H.), Wednesday, 16 November 2022 16:22 (one year ago) link
― “uhh”—like, this is an insane oatmeal raisin cookie “uhh” (President Keyes
idk it's a courteous gesture considering how Aaron died
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 16 November 2022 16:23 (one year ago) link
I was expecting him to diss Jimmy Carter for not having the balls to run against Reagan in 1984.
― “uhh”—like, this is an insane oatmeal raisin cookie “uhh” (President Keyes), Wednesday, 16 November 2022 16:24 (one year ago) link
Hotel Maralago forever and ever now. Damnation.
― i'm right back on my shit (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 16 November 2022 16:28 (one year ago) link
Maybe it's another landscaping thing
https://carterspower.com/
― peace, man, Wednesday, 16 November 2022 16:29 (one year ago) link
Jealous of all the Jay-Z / Beyonce press he isn't getting.
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 16 November 2022 16:32 (one year ago) link
This speech is Trump's message delivered with Jeb Bush's energy and Ted Cruz's charisma— Dan Pfeiffer (@danpfeiffer) November 16, 2022
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 16 November 2022 16:40 (one year ago) link
I'm biased, but this dude running again falls into the "how can we miss you if you don't go away?" void. I mean, he's essentially been running for the past two years, why anyone should care more now is a mystery.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 16 November 2022 16:45 (one year ago) link
yeah I was honestly confused by the NYT opinion section being 90% trump today, like this is some seismic event. I guess they all had them ready to go in drafts lol
― rob, Wednesday, 16 November 2022 16:47 (one year ago) link
his fans care and the rest follow suit because they know he will not hesitate to throw them all under the bus if they hurt his precious feelings
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Wednesday, 16 November 2022 16:47 (one year ago) link
The Nytimes made a big deal about hiring a *third* Trump reporter just last week. They're fuckin' lame.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 16 November 2022 16:50 (one year ago) link
It's doubtless all mummery and posing from Murdoch but still, that NY Post 'Florida Man' cover bullet and then the actual story.
NY Post: Florida Man Makes Announcement —> story deep inside on page 26. pic.twitter.com/rccr3OcD1P— Christine Romans (@ChristineRomans) November 16, 2022
(But there is something to be said to compare this to the NYT reaction.)
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 16 November 2022 16:52 (one year ago) link
for one this version of Trump is a lot more openly fascist. for two he's way less fun. for three the evidence is mounting that he's actively torpedoing the Republican party so there aren't as many Trumpy loudmouths at Denny's to take advice from. not saying the MSM is gonna learn any lessons but I can see him not getting the clicks he used to.
― frogbs, Wednesday, 16 November 2022 16:53 (one year ago) link
he's way less fun.
Speak for yerself.
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 16 November 2022 17:02 (one year ago) link
well, the question of him returning to Twitter or not is being solved by Elon Musk destroying Twitter before campaign season begins
― Jaime Pressly and America (f. hazel), Wednesday, 16 November 2022 17:09 (one year ago) link
I mean, I know he's just parroting his favorite dictators of the past and present, but it's hard to get any lols out of him being cheered for wanting to execute drug offenders.
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 16 November 2022 17:13 (one year ago) link
Donald Trump was never fun unless you're Maggie Haberman. Habers gonna Habe.
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 16 November 2022 17:16 (one year ago) link
I appreciated this since it delved into some details and data
https://www.thedailybeast.com/day-1-of-the-trump-campaignand-his-donors-are-already-exhausted
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 16 November 2022 17:21 (one year ago) link
Voting will be done purely on Twitter in 2024.
― Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 16 November 2022 17:28 (one year ago) link
"carters" of power - corridors maybe? that's how they talk in Queens
― Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 16 November 2022 17:33 (one year ago) link
🐦[Trump goes on strange riff about taking back the "carters of power". pic.twitter.com/DJndyCAq4B🕸— Josh Marshall (@joshtpm) November 16, 2022🕸]🐦
― big movers, hot steppers + long shaker intros (breastcrawl), Wednesday, 16 November 2022 17:35 (one year ago) link
Yeah, I think he's saying "corridors of power"
― jmm, Wednesday, 16 November 2022 17:40 (one year ago) link
I think he's saying "I wandered lonely as a cloudThat floats on high o'er vales and hills,When all at once I saw a crowd,A host, of golden daffodils;Beside the lake, beneath the trees,Fluttering and dancing in the breeze.
Continuous as the stars that shineAnd twinkle on the milky way,They stretched in never-ending lineAlong the margin of a bay:Ten thousand saw I at a glance,Tossing their heads in sprightly dance.
The waves beside them danced; but theyOut-did the sparkling waves in glee:A poet could not but be gay,In such a jocund company:I gazed—and gazed—but little thoughtWhat wealth the show to me had brought:
For oft, when on my couch I lieIn vacant or in pensive mood,They flash upon that inward eyeWhich is the bliss of solitude;And then my heart with pleasure fills,And dances with the daffodils"
― ex-McKinsey wonk who looks like a human version of a rat (Eric H.), Wednesday, 16 November 2022 17:41 (one year ago) link
"carters" of power - corridors maybe? that's how they talk in Queens― Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, November 16, 2022 12:33 PM (nine minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
― Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, November 16, 2022 12:33 PM (nine minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
Holy shit, thank you.
― peace, man, Wednesday, 16 November 2022 17:43 (one year ago) link
you'd think after working for decades in hotels & offices, the word 'corridor' would come up enough that you would know how to pronounce it, just through osmosis
I guess not
― Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 16 November 2022 18:00 (one year ago) link
Jimmy Corridor Says Yes.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 16 November 2022 18:04 (one year ago) link
he's trying to say corridors but his face gets in the way
i like the shape of this distribution
https://i.imgur.com/mstl1oY.png
and those 2 reviews are, i think, very representative of a person who loves the apprentice
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 16 November 2022 18:09 (one year ago) link
Oh yeah,we're taking over the Carter.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=taGt2UqFdm0
― iliac crestfallen (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 16 November 2022 18:23 (one year ago) link
https://i2-prod.chroniclelive.co.uk/incoming/article11029127.ece/ALTERNATES/s810/12617231.jpg
― Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 16 November 2022 18:28 (one year ago) link
Corridor the Unstoppable Sex Machine
― “uhh”—like, this is an insane oatmeal raisin cookie “uhh” (President Keyes), Wednesday, 16 November 2022 18:56 (one year ago) link
I like how he keeps stressing the corridors themselves: "They're our corridors." Pretty sure the expression isn't usually truncated like that.
― jmm, Wednesday, 16 November 2022 19:05 (one year ago) link
that's the big lesson of the corridors of power, though. they are out there, and you have to walk in them, take control of them. redecorate them and keep them clean, maybe assign some people to watch over them, keep the lights on.
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 16 November 2022 19:13 (one year ago) link
https://pyxis.nymag.com/v1/imgs/653/8ba/19d09c1a6d03b7b3992156ced5463aa424-13-melania-trump-christmas-trees.rsquare.w700.jpg
― ex-McKinsey wonk who looks like a human version of a rat (Eric H.), Wednesday, 16 November 2022 19:14 (one year ago) link
they really do have such a tacky sense of style, they can't even do fucking christmas trees right
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 16 November 2022 19:16 (one year ago) link
Day of the Treefids
― iliac crestfallen (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 16 November 2022 19:18 (one year ago) link
deleted scene from Midsommar
― Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 16 November 2022 19:20 (one year ago) link
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-76H_H6o2rIE/UA6ai005xaI/AAAAAAAAF80/Ayw_T49e8Xw/s400/gmcopfr.jpeg
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 16 November 2022 19:22 (one year ago) link
shit oops sorry
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 16 November 2022 19:23 (one year ago) link
they really do have such a tacky sense of style, they can't even do fucking christmas trees right― Karl Malone, Wednesday, November 16, 2022 2:16 PM (thirty-four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, November 16, 2022 2:16 PM (thirty-four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
The only thing I liked about Trump were the creepy christmas trees. Make Christmas Creepy Again!
― peace, man, Wednesday, 16 November 2022 19:54 (one year ago) link
(as long as it doesn't involve letting the Trumps within 200 miles of the White House, it should go without saying)
Yeah, the Eyes Wide Shut Xmas was a high-point for the first lady
― Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 16 November 2022 19:55 (one year ago) link
whatever happened to her tennis pavilion? was it ever completed?
― Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 16 November 2022 19:56 (one year ago) link
the real Carters of Power
https://wilkesheritagemuseum.com/media/k2/items/cache/077ab55046ce80eaf9a3ddea999597ca_L.jpg
― “uhh”—like, this is an insane oatmeal raisin cookie “uhh” (President Keyes), Wednesday, 16 November 2022 19:57 (one year ago) link
jeez these pictures:
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2022/11/16/donald-trumps-comeback-attempt-2024-00067492
― Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 16 November 2022 20:00 (one year ago) link
Toreador of Power
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUBxaK9T5II
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 16 November 2022 20:02 (one year ago) link
xp Is the whole floor of that auditorium underlit?
― ex-McKinsey wonk who looks like a human version of a rat (Eric H.), Wednesday, 16 November 2022 20:02 (one year ago) link
xp top work on that DJT flair
TRUTH TRUMPO WON
BORN TO RIDEDONALD J TRUMP
― circa1916, Wednesday, 16 November 2022 20:07 (one year ago) link
Barf at those pictures.
Any chance the Russians might park some of those terribly aimed missiles near that dump?
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 16 November 2022 20:09 (one year ago) link
Trumpo, the long-forgotten Marx Brother.
― Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 16 November 2022 20:14 (one year ago) link
https://www.politico.com/dims4/default/3e7ccfc/2147483647/strip/true/crop/1160x378+0+0/resize/1350x440!/format/webp/quality/90/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fstatic.politico.com%2F0b%2F14%2Fe33d3dee4a2baab197ab3b4b64ba%2Fpetersonsecondary3.jpg
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_mpBGa4P5jUo/TBIuv7rrFKI/AAAAAAAAEsA/tOm2B_4hGhI/s1600/inlandempire2.jpg
― Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 16 November 2022 20:17 (one year ago) link
otmfm
― ex-McKinsey wonk who looks like a human version of a rat (Eric H.), Wednesday, 16 November 2022 20:19 (one year ago) link
xp - that photo on the right, I initially misread the caption as "shrieks in front of cameras"
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 16 November 2022 20:20 (one year ago) link
June Corridor Cash
― m0stly clean (Slowsquatch), Wednesday, 16 November 2022 20:21 (one year ago) link
I want to hear more about what this person was going for.
https://i.imgur.com/nDNwRaE.jpeg
― jmm, Wednesday, 16 November 2022 20:34 (one year ago) link
"Let's Go Brandon" Branding
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 16 November 2022 20:35 (one year ago) link
Those photos appear to indicate that the ban on Blacks for Trump at the event was very real
― Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 16 November 2022 20:40 (one year ago) link
That person should get a load of my "Where's the Beef, Hart?" tat.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 16 November 2022 20:58 (one year ago) link
Ok so why were “Blacks for Trump” banned?
― Lord Pickles (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 16 November 2022 21:04 (one year ago) link
optics would upset his core base
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 16 November 2022 21:05 (one year ago) link
I wonder:
The man was “Blacks for Trump” founder Maurice Symonette, a.k.a. Michael the Black Man, a former member of a violent cult who posts anti-Semitic screeds and racist conspiracy theories online, and yet has been a featured member of the audience at Trump campaign events since 2016.
On his website, Symonette makes a variety of bizarre claims, including that Omar and other prominent Black Democrats, artists and athletes — including former President Barack Obama, Jesse Jackson, Spike Lee, Colin Kaepernick, and Rep. Maxine Waters, D-Calif. — are “DECEVING FAKE BLACK PEOPLE WHO ARE REALLY INDIANS!” In a sermon now deleted from YouTube, he claimed that the Senate is controlled by a secret underground of “Cherokee Mormons.”
― “uhh”—like, this is an insane oatmeal raisin cookie “uhh” (President Keyes), Wednesday, 16 November 2022 21:30 (one year ago) link
In other words, he was too moderate.
― “uhh”—like, this is an insane oatmeal raisin cookie “uhh” (President Keyes), Wednesday, 16 November 2022 21:32 (one year ago) link
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EoQsF89W8AMkCtS.jpg
― big movers, hot steppers + long shaker intros (breastcrawl), Wednesday, 16 November 2022 21:39 (one year ago) link
that jawline could cut a tree trunk in half
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 16 November 2022 21:41 (one year ago) link
So why was that guy a bridge too far and not all the other racists and antisemites who hang around Trump?
― Lord Pickles (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 17 November 2022 01:12 (one year ago) link
There was a tweet up-thread where someone claimed that "Blacks for Trump" were not allowed in the rally thing, but I haven't seen it repeated elsewhere
Maybe it was just this weirdo
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 17 November 2022 01:17 (one year ago) link
"They're mad because we're standing behind Trump all the way!" As former President Trump announced his 2024 bid to retake the presidency at Mar-a-Lago on Tuesday night, several "Blacks for Trump" rallied to support him. Video contributed by David Decker"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_j9jZr2NxcI'm not watching him talk for 10 minutes though, does he say they were banned from entering?
― StanM, Thursday, 17 November 2022 01:33 (one year ago) link
"no roach would ever vote for the shoe!"
I can't watch it either, he's rambling about king solomon or something
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 17 November 2022 01:39 (one year ago) link
11th Circuit has tossed out the special master review
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Friday, 2 December 2022 03:11 (one year ago) link
^ classic sample on an early wu-tang track
― more crankable (sic), Friday, 2 December 2022 06:38 (one year ago) link
UP FROM THE 11TH CIRCUIT
― Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Friday, 2 December 2022 06:52 (one year ago) link
11 Circuits of Danger
― “uhh”—like, this is an insane oatmeal raisin cookie “uhh” (President Keyes), Friday, 2 December 2022 16:43 (one year ago) link
Ol Dirty Bastard You Wish Was Dead Along With His Whole Fuckin Family
― his cartoon heart expands, then he relaxes by smoking crack (stevie), Friday, 2 December 2022 19:10 (one year ago) link
Old Duddy Bastard
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 2 December 2022 19:28 (one year ago) link
this is probably the most nakedly authoritarian thing Trump has ever posted pic.twitter.com/fnO5VbXyhX— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) December 3, 2022
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 3 December 2022 19:16 (one year ago) link
Who cares
― Lord Pickles (Boring, Maryland), Saturday, 3 December 2022 19:53 (one year ago) link
Yeah, who the fuck cares, it's almost 2023. Dude wants to dominate the news cycle so badly, he should just die.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 3 December 2022 21:38 (one year ago) link
it’s over man, let her go
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 3 December 2022 21:46 (one year ago) link
he’s fully on some joe jackson “is she really going out with him” shit like stop staring out your window like a creep and MOVE THE FUCK ON
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 3 December 2022 21:47 (one year ago) link
I mean… this is a Donald Trump thread.
― circa1916, Saturday, 3 December 2022 21:50 (one year ago) link
Maybe he doesn't know what year it is.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 3 December 2022 21:52 (one year ago) link
Maybe don’t pile on a guy for posting a thing Trump said in a Trump thread? Maybe don’t even open the thread? Y’all are weird.
― circa1916, Saturday, 3 December 2022 21:54 (one year ago) link
I assume this will be the first thread boosted when he dies, so ... hope springs eternal I guess.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 3 December 2022 22:08 (one year ago) link
Well I was just more like, he’s been raging impotently for two years now what else is new? If he’s actively organizing another armed rebellion maybe that’s news, but not his tedious whining.
― Lord Pickles (Boring, Maryland), Saturday, 3 December 2022 22:11 (one year ago) link
he's still the frontrunner for the 2024 nod so I reckon some people still care
― frogbs, Saturday, 3 December 2022 22:12 (one year ago) link
https://dangerousminds.net/content/uploads/images/made/content/uploads/images/kubricksellers7592_465_273_int.jpeg
"You can whine tediously in here! This is the Donald Trump Thread!"
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 3 December 2022 22:17 (one year ago) link
― frogbs, Saturday, December 3, 2022 5:12 PM (six hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
fwiw https://www.predictit.org/markets/detail/7053/Who-will-win-the-2024-Republican-presidential-nomination
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, 4 December 2022 04:51 (one year ago) link
Lol at his kid making the cut
― Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Sunday, 4 December 2022 05:40 (one year ago) link
Lol at fancult not getting elmo on there
― i'm right back on my shit (Hunt3r), Sunday, 4 December 2022 05:52 (one year ago) link
Why would he be on there? He can’t be President.
― castanuts (DJP), Sunday, 4 December 2022 12:30 (one year ago) link
and that's why it would be perfect in our world d
also im brain dead now
― i'm right back on my shit (Hunt3r), Sunday, 4 December 2022 15:24 (one year ago) link
I dont think the Founding Fathers would have wanted to prevent a white billionaire from becoming president just because he was born in South Africa. Lets rip up the constitution and start again.
― “uhh”—like, this is an insane oatmeal raisin cookie “uhh” (President Keyes), Sunday, 4 December 2022 16:46 (one year ago) link
It will 100% be DeSantis
― عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.), Sunday, 4 December 2022 20:08 (one year ago) link
And 1 cent for Ted Cruz is just *kiss*
― عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.), Sunday, 4 December 2022 20:09 (one year ago) link
Biden v DeSantis: Ghoul Fite
― Tracer Hand, Sunday, 4 December 2022 21:57 (one year ago) link
Don't know how important this will be in the grand scheme of things
Scoop: Trump owed hidden debt while in office. https://t.co/XHvBPPZmHG— Dan Alexander (@DanAlexander21) December 4, 2022
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Monday, 5 December 2022 02:34 (one year ago) link
Well now he’s finally toast
― “uhh”—like, this is an insane oatmeal raisin cookie “uhh” (President Keyes), Monday, 5 December 2022 20:11 (one year ago) link
Yup, he's done [Muellersmirking.jpg]
― Evan, Monday, 5 December 2022 20:44 (one year ago) link
https://i.giphy.com/media/k49oXgsKbVQ4g/giphy.gif
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 5 December 2022 20:46 (one year ago) link
"I've got hidden debt too! He's just a regular guy like me, that why blah blah blah..." - 40% of Americans
― Andy the Grasshopper, Monday, 5 December 2022 20:50 (one year ago) link
Also:
[PictureofTrumpfacewhilezonedoutandgassy.jpg] He knows he's done
― Evan, Monday, 5 December 2022 20:55 (one year ago) link
Ah of course:
Lawyers for former president Donald Trump found at least two items marked classified after an outside team hired by Trump searched a storage unit in West Palm Beach, Fla., used by the former president, according to people familiar with the matter.
"Wait you mean I wasn't supposed to put the nuclear codes over in my local Public Storage?"
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 7 December 2022 18:36 (one year ago) link
Well, I'm sure that's all of them.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 7 December 2022 18:37 (one year ago) link
Thinking about Trump’s need to stay relevant and be in the headlines all the time. I’m starting to rethink my default stance which is that he needs to die or go to prison as soon as possible. If he manages to cling to life and relevance for another decade or two- how much chaos and dissension can he throw into the Republican ranks going forward? The more that Republican leadership finds it necessary to repudiate him or what he says- he has always had a need to punch back harder- how will it feel for them now, the more that his ire is turned toward those who had enabled him in the past? They have a monster to deal with now, who commands a huge portion of their support but who no longer has the ability to win big elections for them. I had hoped back in 2016 that he would fracture the Republican party and dash their plans, hopes, and expectations for the next several decades. Obviously his winning the presidency was a disaster from which we will take generations to recover- especially as regards the Supreme Court- but lately it’s starting to feel more like he is an albatross around their necks. I’m honestly starting to root for him to continue fucking up their plans to dominate the country and rewrite the Constitution, as opposed to just dying and getting swept under the rug. I’m not sure how this makes me feel- I’ve been monitoring the news daily for over 5 years now, waiting for him to die so I can dance on his grave. Now, I kind of want to see how much damage he can do to the Republican party. He’s like a wild card that they somehow never adequately planned for turning against them.
― epistantophus, Thursday, 8 December 2022 00:01 (one year ago) link
I think Dem leadership feels the same as you... he's become a useful anchor in statewide races, as was proven yesterday in Georgia
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 8 December 2022 00:13 (one year ago) link
Him running for president from prison would be almost as funny as him going to prison would be satisfying
― more crankable (sic), Thursday, 8 December 2022 01:08 (one year ago) link
YES
Oh my goodness Trump’s “major announcement” is even more pathetic than I anticipated pic.twitter.com/5IzjklP7Fo— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) December 15, 2022
― bit high, bitch (gyac), Thursday, 15 December 2022 16:19 (one year ago) link
I thought this was Christmas not April 1st?
― Gulf VAR Syndrome (Tom D.), Thursday, 15 December 2022 16:21 (one year ago) link
Limited edition digital cards? So ... NFTs.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 15 December 2022 16:24 (one year ago) link
raise up off these NFTscos you gets none of deez
― Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Thursday, 15 December 2022 16:33 (one year ago) link
gotta admit--that is some amazing ART
― The Beatles were the first to popularize wokeism (President Keyes), Thursday, 15 December 2022 16:34 (one year ago) link
very much like a baseball card, but hopefully much more exciting.
― Piven After Midnight (The Yellow Kid), Thursday, 15 December 2022 16:42 (one year ago) link
It's been a long time since I've seen a trading card this exciting
― The Beatles were the first to popularize wokeism (President Keyes), Thursday, 15 December 2022 16:43 (one year ago) link
lol it really grosses me out when he or whoever writes his tweets imitates his speaking style but in tweet form (the “i believe” thrown in there at the end)
― lets hear some blues on those synths (brimstead), Thursday, 15 December 2022 16:52 (one year ago) link
he is the reigning "trump champion" it's right on the blet
― normal AI yankovic (Hunt3r), Thursday, 15 December 2022 16:55 (one year ago) link
He really loves wrestling belts.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 15 December 2022 16:56 (one year ago) link
Super heroes usually have big belts that they win by beating bad guys it's true
― The Beatles were the first to popularize wokeism (President Keyes), Thursday, 15 December 2022 16:59 (one year ago) link
Each Digital Trading Card (NFT) is not only a rare collectible, it automatically enters YOU INTO A SWEEPSTAKES for a chance to win 1000’s of incredible prizes and meet the one and only #45! There's no purchase necessary to enter!
exciting doesn't half cover it
― I did see Xhaka crotchgrab (breastcrawl), Thursday, 15 December 2022 17:01 (one year ago) link
another classic Trump moment
― circa1916, Thursday, 15 December 2022 17:02 (one year ago) link
i hope the hinternets track til there's a winner and a ceremony/intro
― normal AI yankovic (Hunt3r), Thursday, 15 December 2022 17:03 (one year ago) link
its funny to imagine that thirsty scammers around him have likely spent countless hours trying to explain NFTs to him in order to convince him to sign off on any # of NFT crap but he didnt get it, and what finally made it click is the comparison to baseball cards, something he understands & remembers
― waste of compute (One Eye Open), Thursday, 15 December 2022 17:07 (one year ago) link
Do the cards have stats?
Would be funny if it was like a Magic the Gathering card or Pokemon or something, and he got all his people trading, and battling or hunting snipes or whatever it is people do with those cards.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 15 December 2022 17:08 (one year ago) link
I would pay good money to watch Trump try to explain exactly what an NFT is. xp
― Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Thursday, 15 December 2022 17:16 (one year ago) link
There's one card in the video where Trump (looking like Nicolai Carpathian) is having dinner with a couple while Armageddon rages outside
― The Beatles were the first to popularize wokeism (President Keyes), Thursday, 15 December 2022 17:18 (one year ago) link
I really hope I get one these for christmas
― The Beatles were the first to popularize wokeism (President Keyes), Thursday, 15 December 2022 17:20 (one year ago) link
omg this is the promo video from trump's nft card project, im dying. this clown. maybe now people will believe that im not making this up!!!!!! pic.twitter.com/4Cx9u3Xe6E— Oliver Willis (@owillis) December 15, 2022
The video is peak Trump. "Dinner with me. I don't know if that's an amazing price, but it's what we have."
― The Beatles were the first to popularize wokeism (President Keyes), Thursday, 15 December 2022 17:22 (one year ago) link
Once more life imitates On Cinema at the Cinema--Tim Heidecker came out trading cards earlier this year. At least those were physical cards, though!
― blatherskite, Thursday, 15 December 2022 17:29 (one year ago) link
No Purchase Necessary for the sweepstakes? Is that for some legal reason?
― jmm, Thursday, 15 December 2022 17:31 (one year ago) link
the laser eyes?? the unbelievable crappiness? it’s a fuckin lot, people
― Tracer Hand, Thursday, 15 December 2022 17:33 (one year ago) link
xpost yes
dying
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FkB_zvQXEAACGJb?format=png&name=small
― lag∞n, Thursday, 15 December 2022 17:35 (one year ago) link
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FkCAoV8XoAMVeXW?format=jpg&name=medium
― lag∞n, Thursday, 15 December 2022 17:36 (one year ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/xOXXUz8.png
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 15 December 2022 17:37 (one year ago) link
That infomercial is amazing.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 15 December 2022 17:38 (one year ago) link
AI art has really come a long way, huh?
― sleeve, Thursday, 15 December 2022 17:39 (one year ago) link
i appreciate how traditional all these are astronaut army man fancy boy thats the american male
Trump's "major announcement" turns out to be a series of $99 NFTs that are ugly even by the usual NFT standards. pic.twitter.com/f6r80q2PgB— Will Sommer (@willsommer) December 15, 2022
You might think the Trump NFTs are a scam. But if you buy 45 pics of an NFT like Shotgun Trump or Wall Street Trump — so, roughly $4500 worth — you get a ticket for a "Gala Dinner with Trump" pic.twitter.com/cDqlekG87Y— Will Sommer (@willsommer) December 15, 2022
i am going to acquire this Donald Trump NFT because it is the everyday looking version of him that we all know and love pic.twitter.com/zVnAS3H6xk— Matt Binder (@MattBinder) December 15, 2022
― lag∞n, Thursday, 15 December 2022 17:39 (one year ago) link
― blatherskite, Thursday, December 15, 2022 11:29 AM (nine minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
oh my god it's the exact same vibe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTHw6xryUIU
― frogbs, Thursday, 15 December 2022 17:41 (one year ago) link
I want pictures of everybody who buys one of these, can I get that via a FOIA request
― Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Thursday, 15 December 2022 17:42 (one year ago) link
the fuckin gold bars one haaaaa
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FkCM4i7XgAE5faF?format=jpg&name=medium
― lag∞n, Thursday, 15 December 2022 17:42 (one year ago) link
the stupidest fucking world we live in
― “Cheeky cheeky!” she trills, nearly demolishing a roadside post (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 15 December 2022 17:44 (one year ago) link
that trump steaks vibe. catch it! with TRUMPSTAKES TRADING NFTs
― normal AI yankovic (Hunt3r), Thursday, 15 December 2022 17:44 (one year ago) link
the football one is incredible but i feel they missed a chance to make him more overtly the football coach like they coudlve given a headset or a clipboard
― lag∞n, Thursday, 15 December 2022 17:45 (one year ago) link
big xpIf you have to buy something to enter a drawing, it's considered gambling.
― nickn, Thursday, 15 December 2022 17:47 (one year ago) link
And the football looks flat in the pic, like Tom Brady's deflategate all over again.
― nickn, Thursday, 15 December 2022 17:50 (one year ago) link
totally read that as "group therapy session with #45", was about to get into crypto
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 15 December 2022 17:50 (one year ago) link
I do not mean any respect by this, but it is pretty impressive how he has just always stayed the same guy no matter what.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 15 December 2022 17:50 (one year ago) link
Everything he has done is 100 percent in line with 2nd-generation racist real estate scammer from Queens.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 15 December 2022 17:51 (one year ago) link
that's probably why they included a very fun and easy way to enter the contest without buying a piece of beautiful nft art:
No Purchase Mail-In Alternate Method of Entry: Beginning November 28, 2022 and continuing throughout the Sweepstakes Entry Period, to receive one (1) entry in the Sweepstakes without making a purchase, complete the following steps: (i) mail one (1) envelope to Official Donald Trump NFT Collection Sweepstakes, 1143 East Union St, Newark, NY 14513, with such envelope containing (1) one (1) self-addressed postage paid No. 10 envelope (except Vermont residents are not required to affix return postage), and (2) an index card with Entrant’s first name, last name, postal address e-mail address in non-black pen.
for some reason the requirement that non-black pens be used is cracking me up
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 15 December 2022 17:52 (one year ago) link
you can scroll down here to see the approximate cash equivalent values for the prizes:
https://www.collecttrumpcards.com/official-sweepstakes-rules#how-to-enter-the-sweepstakes
for example, you can either claim this amazing prize: "One (1) hour golf game at Trump Golf Palm Beach with President Trump for winner and two (2) guests at a date and time to be determined by Sponsor in its sole discretion" ooooooooor you can take the $300 cash equivalent, it's up to you
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 15 December 2022 17:55 (one year ago) link
fucking amazing that people flew thousands of miles in an attempt to murder the vice president and overthrow the government on behalf of this doofus
― frogbs, Thursday, 15 December 2022 17:55 (one year ago) link
ok I might pay the $99 for this one
https://i.imgur.com/K1L9pU0.jpg
― frogbs, Thursday, 15 December 2022 17:56 (one year ago) link
xpost i'm sure there is definitely no way those mailed envelopes get dumped in the trash
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 15 December 2022 17:56 (one year ago) link
How long until this nob is on Cameo?
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 15 December 2022 17:56 (one year ago) link
you might be wondering, what is the equivalent of winning "One (1) ticket to a 2,000 person 20 minute Zoom call with President Trump, at a date and time to be determined by Sponsor in its sole discretion. Participants will have an opportunity to submit questions in advance of the Zoom call, but there is no guarantee that the question(s) will be asked or answered." ??
as you'd expect, there is no equivalent of that prize. it is "priceless". however, if you must, you can trade that 2000 person zoom call for (1) Exclusive Limited Edition Trump NFT
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 15 December 2022 17:57 (one year ago) link
Non-brown pens too, I would imagine.
― nickn, Thursday, 15 December 2022 17:57 (one year ago) link
Individual 20 minute meeting with President Trump at Mar-a-Lago at a date and time determined by Sponsor in its sole discretion
$0/Priceless
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 15 December 2022 17:58 (one year ago) link
your trap card is no match for my Blue Eyes White Supremacist
― frogbs, Thursday, 15 December 2022 17:59 (one year ago) link
"Participants will have an opportunity to submit questions in advance of the Zoom call, but there is no guarantee that the question(s) will be asked or answered."
ok this is very funny!
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 15 December 2022 17:59 (one year ago) link
Holy shit, I hope someone records the 2,000 person 20 minute Zoom call with President Trump
― jmm, Thursday, 15 December 2022 17:59 (one year ago) link
omg
― jmm, Thursday, 15 December 2022 18:02 (one year ago) link
I love this part:
A few lucky winners will receive Mystery Prizes! What is it? Even though we can’t reveal what the prizes are, we can tell you you’ll be very happy to receive this Mystery Prize if you’re a President Donald J. Trump fan!
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 15 December 2022 18:03 (one year ago) link
has Trump ever delivered on one of those "have dinner with me" sweepstakes? feels like he's promoting this all the time but never does it
― frogbs, Thursday, 15 December 2022 18:06 (one year ago) link
"Where's the Bored Ape Channel?"
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 15 December 2022 18:09 (one year ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/CGDEZEk.jpg
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 15 December 2022 18:12 (one year ago) link
i’d be shocked if even half of these in-person prizes get fulfilled
― Tracer Hand, Thursday, 15 December 2022 18:13 (one year ago) link
first prize: a one-hour dinner with donald trumpsecond prize: a two-hour dinner with donald trump
― Tracer Hand, Thursday, 15 December 2022 18:14 (one year ago) link
Third prize is you're fired — as in, Trump will call and leave "You're fired!" as your outgoing voice mail message on your phone.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 15 December 2022 18:34 (one year ago) link
"really incredible artwork"
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 15 December 2022 18:35 (one year ago) link
the astronaut one looks a lot like Joe Biden
― symsymsym, Thursday, 15 December 2022 18:46 (one year ago) link
This absolutely made my day.
― Lord Pickles (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 15 December 2022 18:47 (one year ago) link
This would all be beyond hilarious if Trump was still just that douche from The Apprentice but as is it just adds another item to the list of reasons why I can't vacate this insane timeline soon enough
― Beautiful Bean Footage Fetishist (Old Lunch), Thursday, 15 December 2022 18:56 (one year ago) link
Like there's a non-zero chance that this human shart could be president. Again. Nothing about any of this is okay.
― Beautiful Bean Footage Fetishist (Old Lunch), Thursday, 15 December 2022 18:58 (one year ago) link
i been hackedall my trumps gone
― waste of compute (One Eye Open), Thursday, 15 December 2022 19:07 (one year ago) link
Why is the "hand signed memorabilia" one signed by a Louise Marylin?
― Evan, Thursday, 15 December 2022 19:11 (one year ago) link
It doesn’t say whose hand
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 15 December 2022 19:14 (one year ago) link
honestly they're so bad i think they're worth $99
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 15 December 2022 19:17 (one year ago) link
"Oh wow I like your picture of famous race car driver... Doris Murphy?"
― Evan, Thursday, 15 December 2022 19:19 (one year ago) link
i love the "handsigned memorabilia" part as it cuts to Trump signing his name with a stylus on a tablet
― circa1916, Thursday, 15 December 2022 19:21 (one year ago) link
goodbye TelSell, hello TrumpDump
― I did see Xhaka crotchgrab (breastcrawl), Thursday, 15 December 2022 19:29 (one year ago) link
Meant to discourage bulk submissions. There used to be a whole thing where a "wet signature" with blue pen was thought to indicate "signed for real" instead of "scanned once and printed multiple times" (even though laser printers have been able to print in blue for quite a long while).
They don't want any of the prizes to be won by someone with an elaborate mass-spamming operation like in "Charlie and the Chocolate Factory"
― Cirque de Soleil Moon Frye (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 15 December 2022 19:41 (one year ago) link
Trump has lost his spot on the hero pantheon for the Christian traditionalist fascists
― | (Latham Green), Thursday, 15 December 2022 20:05 (one year ago) link
xp how has no one done a bit where trump gives out golden tickets for a tour of maralago with oompaloompa housekeepers, chocolate swamp golf course, q gum that tastes like conspiracy, private teevee cameras, great glass escalators etc etc etc
― “Cheeky cheeky!” she trills, nearly demolishing a roadside post (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 15 December 2022 21:24 (one year ago) link
because Willy Wonka is a beloved and magical character and not a venal, whining narcissist?
― assert (matttkkkk), Thursday, 15 December 2022 21:52 (one year ago) link
would def buy nft of trump as willy wonka fyi
― o shit the sheriff (NickB), Thursday, 15 December 2022 22:01 (one year ago) link
Would buy NFT of Trump being sucked into the Fudge Room.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 15 December 2022 22:03 (one year ago) link
If he's able to offload some $100 jpegs to his rubes, more power to him
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 15 December 2022 22:37 (one year ago) link
many xxp to "(i) mail one (1) envelope to Official Donald Trump NFT Collection Sweepstakes, 1143 East Union St, Newark, NY 14513":
1143 East Union St, Newark, NY 14513
― Look closely, that is all. (doo dah), Thursday, 15 December 2022 22:54 (one year ago) link
but it's what we have pic.twitter.com/10LVZHiUr7— Emoji Caresser (@LizRummy) December 15, 2022
― lag∞n, Thursday, 15 December 2022 22:54 (one year ago) link
Kinda like baseball cards, except that you pay a 10% royalty every time you trade them.
On each secondary sale of a Trump Digital Trading Card, there will be a 10% royalty on the sale price that will be paid back to the creator.
― jmm, Thursday, 15 December 2022 22:59 (one year ago) link
aren't there services where you could pay someone to send an envelope for you.
thinking ILX needs to enter this competition hardcore
― Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Thursday, 15 December 2022 23:00 (one year ago) link
you can just drop off your NFT collection sweepstakes information at the NY Great Wall Buffet on East Union in Newark, just off Highway 31. they're really lovely people there, really the best, better than lincoln, much better than washington
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 15 December 2022 23:00 (one year ago) link
yes there is - pay me $20/hr with potential NFT incentives and i will hole up in the NY Great Wall Buffet for as long as it takes to win this competition
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 15 December 2022 23:01 (one year ago) link
we should start winning the new yorker caption contest again, start kicking some ilx ass in the real world
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 15 December 2022 23:02 (one year ago) link
Best Buy Auto Sales, right next to the Four Seasons Total Landscaping
― jmm, Thursday, 15 December 2022 23:05 (one year ago) link
oh my god, that address link, thx doo dah
― sleeve, Thursday, 15 December 2022 23:09 (one year ago) link
many xxp to "(i) mail one (1) envelope to Official Donald Trump NFT Collection Sweepstakes, 1143 East Union St, Newark, NY 14513":1143 East Union St, Newark, NY 14513🕸
― Lord Pickles (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 15 December 2022 23:32 (one year ago) link
that's entertainment pic.twitter.com/qXD12b5KGP— Atrios (@Atrios) December 15, 2022
― symsymsym, Thursday, 15 December 2022 23:36 (one year ago) link
First of all "the creator?" Does he think he's god?
Secondly, are they covering the extremely outside chance that these become valuable, so Trump wants to make additional profit?
― nickn, Friday, 16 December 2022 00:00 (one year ago) link
is he running out of cash or something? This seems pretty desperate
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 16 December 2022 00:39 (one year ago) link
were talking about a guy who sold steak and ties here
― lag∞n, Friday, 16 December 2022 00:43 (one year ago) link
Village People parodies are already being generated. Collect 'em all!
Personally I have the Motorcycle Cop and the Construction Worker, and I'm bidding on the Indian Chief.
― Cirque de Soleil Moon Frye (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 16 December 2022 13:07 (one year ago) link
This one always killed me pic.twitter.com/jWEz6HWMGb— RG (@calmeda323) December 16, 2022
― lag∞n, Friday, 16 December 2022 14:20 (one year ago) link
just a few updates
1) it appears that all of the NFTs sold out (or were bought in bulk by one giant fucking loser as a favor, who knows)
Who bought these? Trump’s digital trading cards have sold out, all 45,000 of them at $99 each. That means he raised $4.45 million in just 12 hours. (Data: OpenSea) pic.twitter.com/JbLr1CTkO3— Mike Sington (@MikeSington) December 16, 2022
2) it is incredibly hard to find the website where the "cards" were listed. i know i posted the URL yesterday, and i will scroll up. but i'm just saying, it is really hilariously hard to find on the internet, even after doing it once. (update: https://www.collecttrumpcards.com/)
3) it was pretty clear just from glancing at them, but at least some of the amazing art was just photoshopped from the websites of clothing brand. https://gizmodo.com/donald-trump-nft-trading-cards-1849900531 in other words they'll probably get sued about all of this, and about 10-15 years from now you'll see a news item noting that the case was settled out of court
― Karl Malone, Friday, 16 December 2022 16:01 (one year ago) link
These are the new stock buybacks.
― nashwan, Friday, 16 December 2022 16:07 (one year ago) link
You're laughing now, but when I sell the entire collection in a few years for a massive profit (minus the 105 fee) I'll be the one laughing.
Wait, are we talking about Tesla stock?
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 16 December 2022 16:11 (one year ago) link
Do you think he faked the purchase of all the cards? How much tax will he have to pay for their sale?
― o shit the sheriff (NickB), Friday, 16 December 2022 16:14 (one year ago) link
I will go on record as saying I really do not think 45,000 people actually bought Trump NFTs
― frogbs, Friday, 16 December 2022 16:16 (one year ago) link
Yeah, I have no idea how that works. Can I offer a make-believe golden calf for sale, and then immediately just claim it's been sold for a million dollars? Has any fraud been committed if there was no actual exchange of anything?
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 16 December 2022 16:16 (one year ago) link
maybe no one was buying them so they just pretended they sold out, wld make sense the nft market is completely dead and trumps demographic is not exactly the nft type
― lag∞n, Friday, 16 December 2022 16:19 (one year ago) link
you can prove that there were real exchanges of crypto, at least:
https://opensea.io/collection/trump-digital-trading-cards
(warning: be careful browsing that site. there is some really, really good art on there and you might just have to buy something for your collection!!)
― Karl Malone, Friday, 16 December 2022 16:20 (one year ago) link
no I think they actually "sold" (that data is publicly available) but they sold in the same way those Bored Apes were "selling" when it turned out it was just like 3 people buying them from each other at steadily escalating prices. like it's either money laundering or whoever made these bought them in order to drive up the price, something that did briefly work two years ago thanks to idiots like Jimmy Fallon and Paris Hilton actually spending tons of cash on them
― frogbs, Friday, 16 December 2022 16:22 (one year ago) link
You don't think there are at least 45,000 morons in the USA?
― Gulf VAR Syndrome (Tom D.), Friday, 16 December 2022 16:24 (one year ago) link
like this one
https://opensea.io/assets/matic/0x24a11e702cd90f034ea44faf1e180c0c654ac5d9/36404
if i'm understanding, it was transferred to "MyNFTonETH" yesterday for 0.0559 ETH, which is currently "worth" around $67 but was presumably worth around $99 yesterday. since then, MyNFTonETH has listed it for 0.175 ETH and then dropped it to 0.150 ETH a few minutes ago, which is around $179, currently. you'd think that would be way too much, but they have received dozens of offers already, including one as high as 0.133 ETH ($159).
just as a reminder, this is all for this
https://i.imgur.com/LgzelIo.png
"Trump Digital Trading Card #36404"
― Karl Malone, Friday, 16 December 2022 16:26 (one year ago) link
im sure anyone who knows a lil about tracking crypto transactions could figure out if those were legit sales pretty easily, the trump org is not known for its rigor, in fact i the info is prob already on twitter
― lag∞n, Friday, 16 December 2022 16:27 (one year ago) link
i might be completely misunderstanding the trading offers and stuff. i try not to dabble too much in crypto these days because i don't like the sensation of turds squeezing between my teeth and down my esophagus
― Karl Malone, Friday, 16 December 2022 16:27 (one year ago) link
https://64.media.tumblr.com/f5ef12ed2e6eff9d2988aee1746e38f3/tumblr_mjbeb9LQVY1qz8x31o6_1280.jpg
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 16 December 2022 16:29 (one year ago) link
― Gulf VAR Syndrome (Tom D.), Friday, December 16, 2022 10:24 AM (three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
who know how to buy NFTs and are willing to spend $99 to do so? idk just look at the NFT market this year practically nobody is buying them
― frogbs, Friday, 16 December 2022 16:29 (one year ago) link
I mean it's really a pretty brilliant scam: I have 5,000 limited edition piece of shit jpegs for sale @ $100 a pop. Whoooops, they all just 'sold out' and are even more valuable! And now all of the shitty jpegs that I totally sold to other people and totally didn't just keep for myself are available at inflated prices on the secondary market. And if you have a long history of fraudulent behavior without ever having suffered punishment sufficient enough to do you any harm whatsoever, why would you even hesitate?
― Beautiful Bean Footage Fetishist (Old Lunch), Friday, 16 December 2022 16:30 (one year ago) link
well he does need someone to actually buy them at some point
― lag∞n, Friday, 16 December 2022 16:33 (one year ago) link
more likely they sold zero of them and then just bought them up to save face
Here's the Opensea wallet of the person who bought 1,000 Trump NFTs. No previous activity before (though it's trivial to set up a new wallet). Major collection. This is how generational wealth is built.https://t.co/kiHL7r5naf pic.twitter.com/CPyqc0DXHa— Jacob Silverman (@SilvermanJacob) December 16, 2022
― lag∞n, Friday, 16 December 2022 16:36 (one year ago) link
Trump might be an exception as far as the NFT market goes. He's probably the most famous celebrity to put out an NFT, I'd think? I could totally see there being a lot of initial demand for these fucking things.
― jmm, Friday, 16 December 2022 16:37 (one year ago) link
idk trumps hardcore fans are more buying gold coins off fox news types than digital art investors, asking them to go through the process of buying one of these things is a lot
― lag∞n, Friday, 16 December 2022 16:40 (one year ago) link
xps
honestly, i don't know how difficult it is to fake all these transactions. but it would seem that you'd have to at least have thousands of fake wallets?
if they did, it was a pretty complicated scheme with thousands of fake buyers. like, on that shitpic i posted just above, there are dozens of offers from different accounts on it, already. here's one of the accounts that's made an offer - https://opensea.io/techboss - techboss has 6 NFTs and has been on opensea since oct 2021.
again, beats me, maybe it's easy to create a bunch of fake accounts to make it look like a bunch of different people actually bought them. but if they did, then it seems like an unusual level of competence for either trump or the grifters to make these accounts that look like they've had authentic shitty taste in investments for over a year now
― Karl Malone, Friday, 16 December 2022 16:42 (one year ago) link
it would be not very hard to do it if you wanted to, wash trading is basically what nfts are for, whether wanted to or not who knows, maybe they sold some and bought the rest idk
― lag∞n, Friday, 16 December 2022 16:43 (one year ago) link
assuming that theres scamming going on with nfts is a very safe bet tho
― lag∞n, Friday, 16 December 2022 16:44 (one year ago) link
i mean who did the technical part of making the nfts probably an established nft entity aka a scammer
― lag∞n, Friday, 16 December 2022 16:47 (one year ago) link
definitely wouldn't surprise me if that's the case. the chances of "trump nfts were a money laundering scheme" happening is very high and approaches 100% in the long-term
― Karl Malone, Friday, 16 December 2022 16:51 (one year ago) link
trump nfts were a money laundering scheme requires no scare quotes, just a fact
― “Cheeky cheeky!” she trills, nearly demolishing a roadside post (forksclovetofu), Friday, 16 December 2022 17:16 (one year ago) link
its not hard for me to believe that there are plenty of shady international pols & oligarchs eager for a simple way to pass along a 7-figure bribe to the trump org
― waste of compute (One Eye Open), Friday, 16 December 2022 17:22 (one year ago) link
my guess would be the fraud is all on the nft guys side, trump org prob played it straight its just not their area of expertise
― lag∞n, Friday, 16 December 2022 17:26 (one year ago) link
the confounding factor here is that it's probably both. i believe there are at _least_ 45,000 people who would be more than happy to give donald trump $99 for tacky photoshops, and also that there are many people who can use this as a vehicle for fraud. the former group provide very good cover for the latter.
in a somewhat tortuous way, it reminds me of the meadows texts that came out recently and also televangelists and the people who give money to them, where it's unsettling to see so many people in that orbit appearing to legitimately believe that the total bullshit. whether they actually believe it or not, as long as they give the appearance of a true believer they provide the cover to the ones doing the crimes
― Karl Malone, Friday, 16 December 2022 17:32 (one year ago) link
Took me a moment to realise Trump is not wedgie-ing himself in that gold-tinted pic above.
― nashwan, Friday, 16 December 2022 17:35 (one year ago) link
is it reasonable to think that a perhaps not insignificant percentage of the cards were purchased as gag gifts?
― henry s, Friday, 16 December 2022 17:37 (one year ago) link
"Generational wealth" LOL
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 16 December 2022 17:47 (one year ago) link
if this was a legitimate sell-out, you know that Series II is being created right now... you gotta keep grifting until the marks move on
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 16 December 2022 17:49 (one year ago) link
sure but they're $99, that's kind of a big chunk of change for most people
I mean look I agree with KM there are a lot of morons out there willing to chuck money at Trump I'm just saying I have a hard time believing very many of them are interested in NFTs or even know what they are. and it's not like he doesn't have every conceivable type of merchandise out there already
however one thing I am learning via the discussion on this is that there do seem to be at least some people who bought these without knowing what they really were and are now tweeting at the official account wondering "how do I access this thing"
― frogbs, Friday, 16 December 2022 17:49 (one year ago) link
As someone pointed out, the entire collection is worth less than $4.5 million. Will it appreciate? Doubtful. This is hardly the stuff of "generational wealth."
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 16 December 2022 17:50 (one year ago) link
holy shit there's one of him wearing a yarmulke at the Wailing Wall:
https://i.seadn.io/gcs/files/42f04a4f20f57ebce2366ef3e684a2ae.jpg
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 16 December 2022 17:58 (one year ago) link
Errr, the Western Wall is a more appropriate name I just learned
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 16 December 2022 17:59 (one year ago) link
if this was a legitimate sell-out, you know that Series II is being created right now
https://frinkiac.com/video/S05E05/TwB3-84Zl5Olm0RtNXX4TC-jg4g=.gif
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 16 December 2022 18:04 (one year ago) link
Also wanna point out it’s a pretty common Republican tactic to use donor money to buy thousands of copies of their own books so idiots like Rubio and Don Jr. can be “best selling authors”. Just saying this shit is already in the playbook
― frogbs, Friday, 16 December 2022 18:04 (one year ago) link
It's interesting to see the slight variations to make each one 'exclusive'.. a little change in the background, a camo cap instead of red, etc. I almost wonder if they used some kind of AI to make every possible variation of every single pose:
https://opensea.io/0xfb65415Ca83B69DA9bC56B4C9C2334fa402baCd7?tab=collected
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 16 December 2022 18:11 (one year ago) link
the super saiyan trick
― “Cheeky cheeky!” she trills, nearly demolishing a roadside post (forksclovetofu), Friday, 16 December 2022 18:12 (one year ago) link
I'm guessing one of the people buying the max was Don Jr. trying to win that one-on-one dinner with Dad
― frogbs, Friday, 16 December 2022 18:17 (one year ago) link
The AI has a slimming effect
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 16 December 2022 18:19 (one year ago) link
I guess that's supposed to be a hunter's stand in the background, but it sure as hell looks like a Gulag watchtower:
https://i.seadn.io/gcs/files/f2cf1a9876c6997182799a5e9d5e38b2.jpg
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 16 December 2022 18:24 (one year ago) link
They should sell Mr. Potato Head Trumps that you could swap out limbs and outfits for.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 16 December 2022 19:00 (one year ago) link
They should reboot the "Ernest Goes to ... " movies with Trump. Was there an "Ernest goes to Washington"?
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 16 December 2022 19:03 (one year ago) link
Action Jackson Trump
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 16 December 2022 19:04 (one year ago) link
It's also embiggened his hands!
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 16 December 2022 20:08 (one year ago) link
Reportedly "the Jan. 6 committee will vote Monday on a subcommittee recommendation to refer *at least* three criminal charges against Trump — including for USC 2383, insurrection. Two others: 1512c obstruction and 371 conspiracy to defraud the US."
Also: "House Ways and Means announces closed meeting next week where they are expected to discuss — for the first time — Trump’s tax returns that they have obtained after years of court battles. It’s unclear how the committee plans to handle it."
The correct thing to do would be for ways and means to issue the tax returns as NFTs.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 16 December 2022 20:34 (one year ago) link
i do love this answer tbh lol
― normal AI yankovic (Hunt3r), Friday, 16 December 2022 23:45 (one year ago) link
He looks like how Ben Garrison draws him which has me wondering if he was involved somehow lol.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Saturday, 17 December 2022 06:42 (one year ago) link
I haven't known any hunters in a long time, I wonder if hunting gear actually looks that tacticool now. Those are some high speed low drag overalls.
― papal hotwife (milo z), Saturday, 17 December 2022 06:48 (one year ago) link
Um, just catching up, 45,000 is not by any means a large number in pretty much any context when it comes to # people (esp since the 45 virus is to an extent worldwide, not US only)?
That x people should do a specific daft thing is surely only remarkable if x has I dunno seven digits or more, maybe eight?
― anatol_merklich, Saturday, 17 December 2022 13:55 (one year ago) link
I mean (and I choose this team at complete random) the Lansing Lugnuts at the high-A level of Minor League Baseball: how many unique spectators (ie not counting repeats) do they draw in the course of a season? I have no idea, but baulking at 45K doing a Dumb Thing seems somewhat in need of calibration.
― anatol_merklich, Saturday, 17 December 2022 14:05 (one year ago) link
I see it could come across that way: No shade intended at the Lugnuts!
― anatol_merklich, Saturday, 17 December 2022 14:07 (one year ago) link
Gonna have to push back as no one chooses Lugnuts at complete random! This has been proven by probability science. Also, everyone who attends Lugnuts games did a fantastic job, I wish I were there with them at every game, let’s go Nuts
― Karl Malone, Saturday, 17 December 2022 14:09 (one year ago) link
Xp too late! The Lugs are going to be playing angry this year
― Karl Malone, Saturday, 17 December 2022 14:10 (one year ago) link
45k is not a big number... much to think about
― lag∞n, Saturday, 17 December 2022 14:21 (one year ago) link
I bow to your greater sagacity and will carefully reconsider my positions, users Karl Malone and lag∞n. I have also acquired an otherwise unexplainable urge to travel to Michigan, United States of America, for the viewing of non-superhero-level baseball. This is a thing I have never actually seen.
― anatol_merklich, Saturday, 17 December 2022 14:31 (one year ago) link
(45k is not a big number)
― anatol_merklich, Saturday, 17 December 2022 14:33 (one year ago) link
its a big number for some things and not for others, its wild actually
― lag∞n, Saturday, 17 December 2022 14:38 (one year ago) link
It's no 45 billion, that's for sure
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4J9MRYJz9-4
― jmm, Saturday, 17 December 2022 14:41 (one year ago) link
If I look at a video of a Trump rally and think about those people in relation to knowing what an NFT is, 45,000 seems like a lot.
― Cow_Art, Saturday, 17 December 2022 14:44 (one year ago) link
I still disagree. It is a small number. Sorry to be a pest.
― anatol_merklich, Saturday, 17 December 2022 14:58 (one year ago) link
Elon Musk you really are quite funny, you sir have won the internet today, please buy me this Lansing Lugnuts hoodie
https://www.duened.com/milb-store-lansing-lugnuts-baseball-shir?prop%5Bcolor%5D=red&prop%5Bsize%5D=&product=31&item=1010064990&side=front
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 17 December 2022 15:01 (one year ago) link
is there anything trump could organically sell 45k of in one day just by dropping an infomercial, what would be the best selling thing he could do it with a book maybe, would that sell 45k first day with no press nowhere to buy it except one website idk maybe im thinking probably not tho, what if the website was more complicated to buy things from than most sites, theres a ton of trump books already theres an insane amount of trump crap all the hardcore fans have a lot of it and are receiving constant calls to buy more many from trump himself, now are nfts considerably less desirable than any number of trump crap items absolutely yes, the digital pictures are not popular, but they are maybe the most fraudulent industry in the world, all that considered i feel comfortable in saying that those 45k nft did not really by any normal definition sell out
― lag∞n, Saturday, 17 December 2022 15:09 (one year ago) link
is there anything trump could organically sell 45k of in one day just by dropping an infomercial
Of course. 45000 is a small number. What the hell is difficult about this concept??
I just don't get it, apparently. Maybe it is I who should get an order-of-magnitude recalibration course, or something.
― anatol_merklich, Saturday, 17 December 2022 15:15 (one year ago) link
one thing you could do is instead of being all *extremely nerds voice* based on first principles 45k is a small number you could look into how much of things is a lot to sell then try to figure out if that thing is similar to trump nfts
― lag∞n, Saturday, 17 December 2022 15:18 (one year ago) link
Fair. Ish. I didn't entirely get that your point was about the number of sales*; I thought it was about the number of weirdos**.
*) The last book I co-wrote sold about 700 including a few mandatory for national library etc. My co-writer has a garage full of the remaining 1300 or something. **) in which case I believe I am right, regardless of nerdvoice register I apparently use. Apologies again; it's a fine line between being clear and being hectoring.
― anatol_merklich, Saturday, 17 December 2022 15:37 (one year ago) link
would that sell 45k first day with no press nowhere to buy it except one website
It was all anyone was talking about the day of the announcement.
74 million Trump voters, plus who knows how many other Trump fans, plus anyone who might be disposed to buy one of these just to flip it, plus anyone who might be disposed to buy one on a lark. This is the context in which 45,000 is a not implausible number of people* who might be willing and able to buy a Trump NFT.
*I don't think it was literally 45,000 people, since people bought multiples. Say 45,000 sincere purchases.
― jmm, Saturday, 17 December 2022 15:41 (one year ago) link
yeah i mean theres what 8 billion people in the world pretty much anyone can sell 45k nfts in a day no problem case closed
― lag∞n, Saturday, 17 December 2022 15:45 (one year ago) link
tomorrow trump could announce a new tshirt and sell 45k and then the next day some socks or whatever
― lag∞n, Saturday, 17 December 2022 15:47 (one year ago) link
Only $35.30 @ Walmart.com
https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/51d87EZxLiL._AC_SY580_.jpg
https://cdn.asotvinc.com/pimg/3E37492654C44A538651EDB5C097EBE6.jpg
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 17 December 2022 16:54 (one year ago) link
ayo anatol could you send me a small amount of dollars
― more crankable (sic), Saturday, 17 December 2022 17:10 (one year ago) link
That ain't Chia Trump, that's Chia Frank Sivero
― Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Saturday, 17 December 2022 18:10 (one year ago) link
let’s go Nuts
much appreciated
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Saturday, 17 December 2022 18:11 (one year ago) link
:) i hope they do say that
― Karl Malone, Saturday, 17 December 2022 20:47 (one year ago) link
the bernie sanders “freedom choice” chia is $2 more on amazon than the trump one, thereby proving what we knew all along about socialism
― the late great, Saturday, 17 December 2022 20:51 (one year ago) link
Now this is amusing
https://www.pcmag.com/news/art-for-trumps-nfts-relies-on-stock-photos-for-online-clothing
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Sunday, 18 December 2022 00:02 (one year ago) link
Apes:Slurp Juices::Trump:Wal-Mart Couture
― papal hotwife (milo z), Sunday, 18 December 2022 00:29 (one year ago) link
lol/sob
People who buy Trump's NTF images don’t fully own them: if they sell the digital cards they have to kick back 10% of the sale price to Trump, who is not actually producing the things. Back in March he set up an entity called CIC which holds the rights to his image and name for NFT licensing. He then granted a license to a group called NFT International, LLC, which was also set up in March.NFT International has been traced – first to a mailbox at a UPS store in a strip mall in Utah, then from there to an office building in Wyoming and finally to a tiny brick house in Cheyenne that is also the corporate “home” for several frauds and international criminals.Other companies registered by Wyoming Corporate at 1712 Pioneer with a final address at 2710 Thomes Ave., include:1) former Ukrainian Prime Minister Pavlo Lazarenko, who in 2004 was sentenced to eight years in a California prison for money-laundering and extortion, using shell companies and offshore bank accounts to hide stolen Ukrainian government funds.2) Ira Rubin, who was sued in 2006 by the FTC in federal court for fraudulently using at least 18 different front companies to hide his role as a credit-card processor for telemarketing scams.and it is also clear that the Trump images are simply his face Photoshopped into old images taken from various Internet websites and rendered to appear as if they are new artwork. Not clear if rights to use those images were obtained, but it appears they were not...
― sleeve, Wednesday, 21 December 2022 00:20 (one year ago) link
He learned well from the mafiosos at his casino
― Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 21 December 2022 00:23 (one year ago) link
Now that's classic Donald trump!
― nickn, Wednesday, 21 December 2022 00:23 (one year ago) link
This fuckin' guy.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 21 December 2022 01:35 (one year ago) link
classy stuff pic.twitter.com/BCcUzD4lv5— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) December 27, 2022
I don't want to play this game, but...
https://www.cjr.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/Nuzzi_NyMag_DailyBeast-500x500.jpg
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 27 December 2022 01:46 (one year ago) link
That Nuzzi article is… something
― Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Tuesday, 27 December 2022 02:30 (one year ago) link
tl; dr?
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 27 December 2022 02:35 (one year ago) link
Trump is a sad loser who nobody likes. He might not even run for president again in 2024, because he's really old and has loser stink all over him, so bad that even other Republican politicians can smell it.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 27 December 2022 02:54 (one year ago) link
AI Prompt: write a children's story about donald trump, a sad loser who nobody likes, who might not even run for president again in 2024, because he's really old and has loser stink all over him, so bad that even other Republican politicians can smell it.
"Once upon a time there was a man named Donald Trump. He was a sad loser who nobody liked. He always wanted to be President of the United States, but he just couldn't seem to get enough people to like him.
He tried and tried to get people to like him, but it just didn't work. He would spout off his opinions to anyone who would listen and try to get them to like him, but it never worked. He just couldn't seem to connect with people.
He tried to become President in 2020, but he lost to Joe Biden in a landslide. Everyone thought it was a sign that his time was up, and that he would never be President.
But Donald Trump was determined to try again. He started talking about running for President in 2024, but people weren't so sure. After all, he was really old and had loser stink all over him. Even other Republican politicians could smell it.
So, as time went on, people started to think Donald Trump would never run for President again. He was too old, too unpopular, and too full of loser stink.
But Donald Trump still hasn't given up. He still talks about running for President in 2024. Only time will tell if he's able to convince enough people to like him, or if he will just fade away into history as an old, sad loser."
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 27 December 2022 03:07 (one year ago) link
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/donald-trump-running-for-president-2024.html
― “Cheeky cheeky!” she trills, nearly demolishing a roadside post (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 27 December 2022 07:54 (one year ago) link
Found the small passing detail about Ivanka learning guitar as a key part of her post-White House life hilarious for some reason.
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 27 December 2022 13:13 (one year ago) link
I hope she plays Smelly Cat (she does look like Lisa Kudrow a little bit, even)
― StanM, Tuesday, 27 December 2022 13:19 (one year ago) link
he just couldn't seem to get enough people to like him
The people who liked him liked him because he was disliked - by people they disliked. "Has the same enemies as me" was a powerful drug in those days, but its shelf-life was limited as a formula for winning.
― Ye Mad Puffin, Tuesday, 27 December 2022 14:28 (one year ago) link
Nuzzi's article was pretty good. IMO that's the only way you should really be writing about this guy - as reality star/"celebrity" first, politician second. Politicians have policy goals; Trump's endgame is getting on TV and selling hats and NFTs along the way. Was kinda surprised at the detail about the movie Sunset Boulevard...I would not have expected that
― frogbs, Tuesday, 27 December 2022 14:47 (one year ago) link
It's that one story about Donald Fagen and Lou Reed that is buried in the archives.
― A Kestrel for a Neve (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 27 December 2022 14:49 (one year ago) link
He's really coming unglued.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 27 December 2022 15:26 (one year ago) link
Increasingly isolated, even.
― Ye Mad Puffin, Tuesday, 27 December 2022 15:38 (one year ago) link
the story briefly touches on this but it's obviously worth noting that Trump was surrounded by an F-team through most of his last campaign too...until the media propelled him to some early primary victories. as we all know they'll come crawling back the instant he starts winning. though I do have some serious doubts he can pull that off again.
― frogbs, Tuesday, 27 December 2022 15:44 (one year ago) link
https://pisces.bbystatic.com/image2/BestBuy_US/images/products/8332/8332903_so.jpg
― DPRK in Cincinnati (WmC), Tuesday, 27 December 2022 15:48 (one year ago) link
this is a very low energy portrait its not good very sad, he needs new drugs maybe idk, tho it is worth noting that were still pretty far out and he doesnt really need to do all that early leg work that the other candidates do going to state fairs meeting with local mayors and whatnot, if he can get himself revved up he should still take the primary pretty easy
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 27 December 2022 15:49 (one year ago) link
Even after trashing her you know Trump'll keep taking Nuzzi's calls. He absolutely cannot resist the New York media he grew up with.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 27 December 2022 15:50 (one year ago) link
His entire frame for seeing the world is still rooted in the Reagan era, when he was at his early showman peak.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 27 December 2022 15:51 (one year ago) link
I mean if you can stomach to watch videos of Trump circa 2015 or 2016 it's a pretty striking difference from what he is now. I don't think he'll ever be that guy again.
― frogbs, Tuesday, 27 December 2022 15:52 (one year ago) link
yeah he easily could be cooked but im not ready to count ol donnie trump out yet
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 27 December 2022 15:54 (one year ago) link
yeah the entire time reading that profile i was just like WHY ARE YOU STILL AGREEING TO TALK TO THIS PERSON
― waste of compute (One Eye Open), Tuesday, 27 December 2022 16:41 (one year ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emY12SGdrIM
― A Kestrel for a Neve (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 27 December 2022 16:47 (one year ago) link
Donald Trump mistook his sexual assault accuser E. Jean Carroll for his ex-wife Marla Maples when shown a photograph from the 1990s in a deposition at Mar-a-Lago last year, potentially undermining one of the common defenses he has used to deny an attack.Trump, who is being sued by Carroll, an author and advice columnist, for defamation and sexual assault stemming from the same alleged encounter, has repeatedly said Carroll is not his “type,” suggesting an assault could not have occurred because he would not have pursued her romantically.“That’s Marla, yeah. That’s my wife,” Trump said under examination from Carroll’s lawyer Roberta Kaplan, in a new selection of excerpts from the deposition that was unsealed Wednesday in U.S. District Court in Manhattan.
Trump, who is being sued by Carroll, an author and advice columnist, for defamation and sexual assault stemming from the same alleged encounter, has repeatedly said Carroll is not his “type,” suggesting an assault could not have occurred because he would not have pursued her romantically.
“That’s Marla, yeah. That’s my wife,” Trump said under examination from Carroll’s lawyer Roberta Kaplan, in a new selection of excerpts from the deposition that was unsealed Wednesday in U.S. District Court in Manhattan.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 19 January 2023 15:00 (one year ago) link
still sharp as a razor
― lag∞n, Thursday, 19 January 2023 15:35 (one year ago) link
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/98/The_Man_Who_Mistook_His_Wife_for_a_Hat_cover.jpg
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 19 January 2023 15:42 (one year ago) link
lol, classic book
― fentanyl young (Neanderthal), Thursday, 19 January 2023 17:22 (one year ago) link
required reading in my soph psych class
― fentanyl young (Neanderthal), Thursday, 19 January 2023 17:23 (one year ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/IACNTg8.png
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 19 January 2023 17:27 (one year ago) link
man these Malignant mockbusters gotta stop
― fentanyl young (Neanderthal), Thursday, 19 January 2023 17:41 (one year ago) link
hes still got it
After Silk goes on and on about how much she loves Trump and all the great times they had together, Trump gets up and says this: “I knew Diamond, but I didn’t know Silk at all. I just learned about Silk. You’re fantastic.” pic.twitter.com/jgReN5hW5C— Ron Filipkowski 🇺🇦 (@RonFilipkowski) January 21, 2023
― lag∞n, Sunday, 22 January 2023 00:12 (one year ago) link
If he could he would give her the world
― عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.), Sunday, 22 January 2023 15:08 (one year ago) link
like most trump statements i can imagine a semantic world in which that is consistent but it proves all we need to know either way really
― normal AI yankovic (Hunt3r), Sunday, 22 January 2023 19:13 (one year ago) link
I can tell you one thing for sure, because he said it himself 5 times, Trump was definitely NOT expecting to sit through 3+ hours of hymns and stories at Diamond’s memorial service today: “They said about 15-20 minutes, in and out. This is a little longer than 15 minutes, right?” pic.twitter.com/IZgRioU3Iq— Ron Filipkowski 🇺🇦 (@RonFilipkowski) January 22, 2023
you devote your life in service of this fuckin guy this is the eulogy you deserve
― frogbs, Monday, 23 January 2023 05:06 (one year ago) link
I dunno guys, he seems like a suppurating asshole to me
― assert (matttkkkk), Monday, 23 January 2023 06:19 (one year ago) link
Do any of them, ever, get the feeling they've been cheated?
― his cartoon heart expands, then he relaxes by smoking crack (stevie), Monday, 23 January 2023 08:51 (one year ago) link
Really outstanding work there from The Donald. Larry David could not have written it better.
― Tracer Hand, Monday, 23 January 2023 08:55 (one year ago) link
Yes; you have clearly not followed the saga of USA Freedom Kids
― The Myth of Sisyspacek (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 23 January 2023 12:57 (one year ago) link
Ah yes, I remember that story.
― his cartoon heart expands, then he relaxes by smoking crack (stevie), Monday, 23 January 2023 13:06 (one year ago) link
the narcissistic comments he made at diamond's funeral are funny but also disturbing. i can't help but put myself in the position of one of her family members.
― treeship., Monday, 23 January 2023 13:17 (one year ago) link
tbf she was in on the scam so
― lag∞n, Monday, 23 January 2023 13:36 (one year ago) link
I get what treeship is saying - D&S chose to lie down with TrumpDawg so it's not surprising for them to wake up with fleas, but it's not like their friends and family deserve to have Orange Man stand up to talk about how it's all about ME ME ME.
― The Myth of Sisyspacek (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 23 January 2023 13:46 (one year ago) link
Yeah, it's disgusting and gross, even if she was a huge grifter herself. I just don't understand how these people can see who Trump is and not think, "Uh, he's totally going to fuck me over as quickly as all these other fools".
― his cartoon heart expands, then he relaxes by smoking crack (stevie), Monday, 23 January 2023 13:55 (one year ago) link
https://www.reddit.com/r/LeopardsAteMyFace/
'I never thought leopards would eat MY face,' sobs woman who voted for the Leopards Eating People's Faces Party
― The Myth of Sisyspacek (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 23 January 2023 13:57 (one year ago) link
xp I think they really do think “I’m like the winner Silk, who the big guy respects - not like diamond”
― Karl Malone, Monday, 23 January 2023 14:06 (one year ago) link
Did the family not have the option to not invite Trump?
― عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.), Monday, 23 January 2023 15:02 (one year ago) link
Trump is the only reason people have heard of Diamond and Silk. No press would cover their funeral if he wasn’t there. I have no empathy for this family of grifters.
― Lord Pickles (Boring, Maryland), Monday, 23 January 2023 15:44 (one year ago) link
dont want it to get lost here that she was unvaxxed and died of Covid
― frogbs, Monday, 23 January 2023 15:47 (one year ago) link
Imagine how much worse it would have been if she taken the jab
― George Santos' If I Could Only Remember My Name - C or D? (President Keyes), Monday, 23 January 2023 15:52 (one year ago) link
she died because she came in contact with vaxxed people and picked up some of their lethal vax fumes in the air
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Monday, 23 January 2023 15:53 (one year ago) link
Second-Hand Scamdemic
― George Santos' If I Could Only Remember My Name - C or D? (President Keyes), Monday, 23 January 2023 15:55 (one year ago) link
This from the Twitter comments is A+: Folks, do you still believe in heaven, because at this point it's marginal, right?
― Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Monday, 23 January 2023 16:13 (one year ago) link
Dear mr JesusI just had to write to youSilk died from vax chemtrailsI just saw it on the news
― fentanyl young (Neanderthal), Monday, 23 January 2023 16:41 (one year ago) link
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Monday, January 23, 2023 10:53 AM (fifty-three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
they call it shedding
― lag∞n, Monday, 23 January 2023 16:47 (one year ago) link
ok I've watched some of Trump's "eulogy" and god damn it's even worse than you're imagining
― frogbs, Tuesday, 24 January 2023 15:48 (one year ago) link
Funny, when you build a cult around someone who sees everything in terms of whether it is good or bad for him... don't be surprised when he shows up with exactly that spin on everything.
Humoring a malignant narcissist adds fuel to his narcissism, film at eleven.
― is it milli vanilli or just a facsimile (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 24 January 2023 15:55 (one year ago) link
Yeah, I was watching Jimmy Kimmel talk about it and...it's breathtakingly insane. He was up there for 45 minutes doing a greatest hits set, literally talking about calling Elizabeth Warren "Pocahontas" at a fucking funeral.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 24 January 2023 15:59 (one year ago) link
really sad/incredible when he was like "low energy....do you remember low energy..."
― frogbs, Tuesday, 24 January 2023 16:05 (one year ago) link
https://i.imgflip.com/78ll1d.jpg
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 24 January 2023 16:08 (one year ago) link
also wtf was he trying to do with the "I knew Diamond...I didn't know Silk" thing. they clearly met several times, there are plenty of photos of it. I don't think they ever appeared separately and clearly Trump didn't know a damn thing about either of them. like what was he trying to say there
― frogbs, Tuesday, 24 January 2023 16:17 (one year ago) link
Maybe Silk seemed like kind of a loser until he realized she was the one who didn't die, so therefore was the better one.
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Tuesday, 24 January 2023 16:21 (one year ago) link
he might have just forgotten who they were due to dementia
― treeship., Tuesday, 24 January 2023 16:22 (one year ago) link
and said some random things to cover for it, badly
Saying you don't even know who someone is is always a good power move to use. Good for birthday parties and funerals.
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Tuesday, 24 January 2023 16:24 (one year ago) link
USA Freedom Kids, sometimes referred to as USA Freedom Girls, are an American girl group known for performing their song "Freedom's Call" at a Donald Trump rally in Pensacola, Florida in January 2016, during his presidential campaign.[2] While the group's manager formerly supported Trump, he claims that the group has never been political, and that they had offered to perform at Hillary Clinton's rallies. The group now supports Biden, re-recording their most known song.
I’m sorry, what
― castanuts (DJP), Tuesday, 24 January 2023 16:27 (one year ago) link
“We sing patriotic songs at political rallies, how is that political?”
― frogbs, Tuesday, January 24, 2023 11:17 AM (eleven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
he was styling on her cause she was up there before him talking about how theyre best friends
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 24 January 2023 16:30 (one year ago) link
Hahahaha wait
― castanuts (DJP), Tuesday, 24 January 2023 16:33 (one year ago) link
this is why i think it's some kind of cognitive lapse
― treeship., Tuesday, 24 January 2023 16:45 (one year ago) link
tbf Silk spent much of her eulogy calling Trump's vaccine poison.
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Tuesday, 24 January 2023 16:46 (one year ago) link
― treeship., Tuesday, 24 January 2023 16:50 (one year ago) link
she spoke first and was like me and trump are besties
he didnt like that so he said i dont know her
not that complicated
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 24 January 2023 16:52 (one year ago) link
well she said she felt like part of Trump's family so it makes sense he doesn't recognize her
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Tuesday, 24 January 2023 16:54 (one year ago) link
holy shit she really did try to claim she was killed by the vaccine
― frogbs, Tuesday, 24 January 2023 16:54 (one year ago) link
One presumes DJT just lives in a bubble of sycophants and as long as everyone is constantly complimenting him he's fine. He doesn't have much incentive to distinguish between or among sycophants. His polarized vision can only detect sycophants and enemies. Diamondandsilk was in the Trumpy camp, so he was happy to take them as a unit. One of them dying gave him the tedious task of determining which was which. His brain just fizzled there, because why would he possibly care?
― is it milli vanilli or just a facsimile (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 24 January 2023 17:08 (one year ago) link
Whatever his motivations it’s funny as hell.
― Alicia Silver Stone (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 24 January 2023 17:13 (one year ago) link
holy shit she really did try to claim she was killed by the vaccine― frogbs, Tuesday, January 24, 2023 11:54 AM (twenty-one minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
― frogbs, Tuesday, January 24, 2023 11:54 AM (twenty-one minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
yeah, reading her tweets now. silk believes the vaccines are part of a deliberate depopulation agenda. she also claims that everyone is at risk due to vaccinne shedding -- this is how diamond was allegedly killed by the vaccine. the coroner said diamond died to heart disease caused by chronic high blood pressure.
― treeship., Tuesday, 24 January 2023 17:18 (one year ago) link
big cor in bed with big con and big tech
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Tuesday, 24 January 2023 17:21 (one year ago) link
Boring, I mostly agree but I think I would be better able to appreciate the lulz if there weren't genuine human pain involved
― is it milli vanilli or just a facsimile (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 24 January 2023 17:25 (one year ago) link
Autopsy said it was heart disease. They are obv in on it
― fentanyl young (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 24 January 2023 17:26 (one year ago) link
xpost Not sure I follow--would Santos be funnier if his politics were better?
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Tuesday, 24 January 2023 17:26 (one year ago) link
wrong thread I think
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Tuesday, 24 January 2023 17:27 (one year ago) link
i'm not laughing about this, i was just pointing out what silk is saying xp
― treeship., Tuesday, 24 January 2023 17:28 (one year ago) link
the anti-vax stuff is dark
― treeship., Tuesday, 24 January 2023 17:29 (one year ago) link
And, in case there is some confusion, I'm laughing at Trump, not the anti-vax propaganda.
― Alicia Silver Stone (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 24 January 2023 17:30 (one year ago) link
― is it milli vanilli or just a facsimile (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, January 24, 2023 11:25 AM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
well sure there are a lot of people going "wow imagine being one of her family members or someone who really cared about her and having this guy just talk about himself for 45 minutes at the eulogy" but, I dunno, it didn't seem like the mourners disapproved of it, I think a lot of these people really do believe their purpose in life is to be foot soldiers on the front lines of the dumbass culture wars
― frogbs, Tuesday, 24 January 2023 18:39 (one year ago) link
the newish movement to blame covid deaths on people who are vaccinated follows the logic of the old one. they were part of one of the cruelest movements i can recall, the covid denier thing, and their disinformation needlessly killed millions of people who should be alive right now. they were never going to apologize for that or contemplate what they had done. they feed on cruelty, they have to turn it up a notch. blaming covid on those trying to prevent covid is today's escalation. who knows what they will do tomorrow - i'm guessing they will look for ways to punish people who are doing the right thing
― Karl Malone, Tuesday, 24 January 2023 18:49 (one year ago) link
didn't seem like the mourners disapproved of it
very likely that most of the mourners were dazzled by the idea that a former POTUS, billionaire, and television celebrity agreed to come to the funeral and speak to them. even without all the secret service agents and other trappings of enormous power that's enough to turn most people's brains to vapor.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 24 January 2023 18:56 (one year ago) link
i think one can view it as a tragedy that someone who struggled with heart disease for years could be manipulated into following someone like Trump et al and being an anti-vax advocate who basically accelerated their own death, while also saying "but also fuck this person for spreading this fucked message"
― fentanyl young (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 24 January 2023 19:00 (one year ago) link
Also, to be very clear about my position on this, all of this is extremely funny
― castanuts (DJP), Tuesday, 24 January 2023 21:36 (one year ago) link
It doesn't matter whether you win or lose, as long as you WIN
Former president Donald Trump claimed victory in the seniors’ golf championship at his property in West Palm Beach, Florida, over the weekend.
The Daily Mail revealed how the former President orchestrated the feat. “Insiders told DailyMail.com that competitors arriving for day two of the contest on Sunday morning were surprised (although not exactly shocked) to see his name at the top of the leaderboard with a five-point lead over the overnight leader,” the outlet wrote.
“He apparently told members that he had played a cracking round on Thursday, and that would count as his first day’s score.”
The Daily Mail also noted that this is not the first time Trump, a notorious golf cheater, has bent the rules at his own club. The outlet said, “Participants merely shrugged and competed for second place.”
― Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 25 January 2023 00:12 (one year ago) link
It would not surprise me at all if he started selling the opportunity to lose a round of golf to him. Meaning whatever actually happens on the course, when you get back, he says he won and you nod and smile.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 25 January 2023 00:20 (one year ago) link
If only all sports were self-officiating
― Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 25 January 2023 00:21 (one year ago) link
Follows the same logic as stop the steal. When he's in front it's time to stop counting.
― BrianB, Wednesday, 25 January 2023 00:23 (one year ago) link
I am therefore pleased to announce my future victory in the Super Bowl*
,* which will be held on my couch and which will be filled with tortilla chips
In conclusion: yum, guacamole
― is it milli vanilli or just a facsimile (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 25 January 2023 00:24 (one year ago) link
he's like a character in some 1980's National Lampoon movie
― Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 25 January 2023 00:30 (one year ago) link
anthony's scaramucci's first press conference as press secretary:
But here’s what I tell you about the President. He’s the most competitive person I’ve ever met. Okay, I’ve seen this guy throw a dead spiral through a tire. I’ve seen him at Madison Square Garden with a topcoat on. He’s standing in the key and he’s hitting foul shots and swishing them, okay? He sinks 30-foot putts. I don’t see this guy as a guy that’s ever under siege. This is a very, very competitive person.
scaramucci-heads will remember that he didn't actually say '30-foot putts', he said '3-foot putts'. the white house communications team just changed it for the transcript. what a weird, weird group of people
https://deadspin.com/white-house-alters-transcript-to-clarify-that-the-presi-1797305596
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 25 January 2023 00:31 (one year ago) link
You misspelled putz
― is it milli vanilli or just a facsimile (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 25 January 2023 00:33 (one year ago) link
It’s hard to believe he is an actual person.
― treeship., Wednesday, 25 January 2023 00:38 (one year ago) link
scaramucci-heads
do these exist?
― Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 25 January 2023 00:39 (one year ago) link
Wait 'til he golfs with Santos and they both win
― Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 25 January 2023 00:40 (one year ago) link
i'm assuming someone who runs the occupy democrats account is way down deep in this kind of shit
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 25 January 2023 00:42 (one year ago) link
whereas i, reminding everyone of how the 30-foot putt mentioned several years ago was actually a reference to a 3-foot putt, float above it trousers unsoiled
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 25 January 2023 00:43 (one year ago) link
they could have added "He sinks 3 foot putts, blindfolded.." and I would've been impressed
― Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 25 January 2023 00:50 (one year ago) link
bro
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FnQ9QT3WYAAXYWN?format=jpg&name=medium
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 25 January 2023 03:12 (one year ago) link
Grandpa is drunk but he doesn’t drink
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 25 January 2023 03:16 (one year ago) link
it's ok, his veins are pumping pure Sweet 'n Sour sauce at this point, his right eye is going to pop out of his head soon
― def jeftones (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 25 January 2023 03:19 (one year ago) link
he's unarguably a warped, dysfunctional human being, but he sure as f*ck knows his audience
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 25 January 2023 03:46 (one year ago) link
one recent new thing for me to hate about him is how much shittier i eat now. like – he eats mcdonalds and KFC everyday and should have been dead a decade ago. but he's still here, waddling around, sucking oxygen and stuffing his face with quarter pounders. why should i suffer through salads for lunch and be generally unenthusiastic about my meal choices when that pile of shit is still having the time of his life getting mcdicks hand delivered and slathering ketchup on his steaks?!
― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 25 January 2023 06:35 (one year ago) link
he does wear diapers though
― StanM, Wednesday, 25 January 2023 09:33 (one year ago) link
eh mcdonalds is not that great. it's not like he gets pleasure from anything--let alone eating
― a (waterface), Wednesday, 25 January 2023 13:39 (one year ago) link
He gets pleasure from hurting people.
― castanuts (DJP), Wednesday, 25 January 2023 13:44 (one year ago) link
The cruelty, and agonising bowel obsctructions, are the point.
― his cartoon heart expands, then he relaxes by smoking crack (stevie), Wednesday, 25 January 2023 14:00 (one year ago) link
why is he still using truth social? wasn't he unbanned?
― treeship., Wednesday, 25 January 2023 14:34 (one year ago) link
Isn't he contractually obligated to continue using Truth Social? Wouldn't going to Twitter pretty much be a confession that Truth Social was as much a failure as Trump U, Trump Steaks, the Trump presidency, etc?
― his cartoon heart expands, then he relaxes by smoking crack (stevie), Wednesday, 25 January 2023 14:36 (one year ago) link
― castanuts (DJP), Wednesday, January 25, 2023 1:44 PM (fifty-five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
yep, important point
― a (waterface), Wednesday, 25 January 2023 14:40 (one year ago) link
he always feels bad so he takes pleasure in making others feel bad
maybe that is all that was going on with his negging of silk, a woman mourning her sister who has only every said flattering things about trump
― treeship., Wednesday, 25 January 2023 14:53 (one year ago) link
Isn't he contractually obligated
i doubt this is an obstacle
― normal AI yankovic (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 25 January 2023 14:59 (one year ago) link
Yeah there's been some reports in the last day or so that he's about to ditch Truth Social and move back to Twitter
― groovypanda, Wednesday, 25 January 2023 17:12 (one year ago) link
"MAGA!!" What's this mean? It's not on my chart
https://www.eslbuzz.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/6e36d48e7ba734aff65c917eb38c9339.jpg
― Evan, Wednesday, 25 January 2023 17:19 (one year ago) link
xpost There is no way he won't be feuding with Elon soon
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Wednesday, 25 January 2023 17:20 (one year ago) link
"Ol' Spacey Elon..."
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 25 January 2023 17:24 (one year ago) link
That T is still alive is grist for my tinfoil hat conspiracy theory that there is indeed an island full of clones of our ruling class.
― Alicia Silver Stone (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 25 January 2023 19:19 (one year ago) link
Harvested for pets, of course.
Parts
Sure maybe pet clones too who knows
"Keptin, ve haff gotten a new shipment of trump hairdos."
https://www.startrek.com/sites/default/files/styles/content_full/public/images/inline/2019-01/b5f9ba8039d9df8b3a6acf08fd5d2e84.jpg
― is it milli vanilli or just a facsimile (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 25 January 2023 19:28 (one year ago) link
He's getting his FB and Instagram pages back
― his cartoon heart expands, then he relaxes by smoking crack (stevie), Wednesday, 25 January 2023 22:34 (one year ago) link
well I'm sure he has no doubt learned his lesson
<3 living in an era with no real consequences for rich white racists
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 25 January 2023 22:36 (one year ago) link
And when TRUTH Social totally implodes, he conveniently has his whipping boy Devin Nunes to blame for it
― Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 25 January 2023 23:20 (one year ago) link
& Devin is already trying to blame the implosion on the feds. https://www.rawstory.com/devin-nunes-truth-social-funding/
― BrianB, Wednesday, 25 January 2023 23:35 (one year ago) link
FB & IG checked to see if he was indicted, yet. nope. must be safe to move ahead with Project Loudmouth Liar
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 26 January 2023 00:23 (one year ago) link
would love for Nunes to be crushed by a backhoe
― def jeftones (Neanderthal), Thursday, 26 January 2023 01:13 (one year ago) link
Or one of his cows.
― nickn, Thursday, 26 January 2023 01:37 (one year ago) link
apparently he said on his little social media platform (in ALL CAPITALS) that he could finish the war in Ukraine in less than 24 hours
― StanM, Friday, 27 January 2023 16:33 (one year ago) link
For whose side?
― عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.), Friday, 27 January 2023 16:38 (one year ago) link
Hello! Vladimir? Donald here. I'm calling about that little scrape you've gotten into in The Ukraine. Yup, it's crazy, I know. But I have an idea. Just hear me out. Those new-cue-lar bombs you've got over there are just collecting dust, right? I say, use 'em. War'll be done in less than 24 hours. No, don't thank me. Happy to help. Bye.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 27 January 2023 17:27 (one year ago) link
More like he would side with Putin, pull all support for Ukraine, pressure allies to do the same and then just let Putin steamroll the country. Done: war finished.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 27 January 2023 17:43 (one year ago) link
Nobel prize!
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Friday, 27 January 2023 17:46 (one year ago) link
he also claimed Mexico would pay for the Wall, so...
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 27 January 2023 18:11 (one year ago) link
He also claimed peace in the Middle East would be "so easy."
― henry s, Friday, 27 January 2023 18:32 (one year ago) link
starting to think this guy isn't on the level
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Friday, 27 January 2023 18:33 (one year ago) link
idk give him a shot why not
― lag∞n, Friday, 27 January 2023 18:57 (one year ago) link
Ah yes:
The scenarios Republicans find themselves fantasizing about range from the far-fetched to the morbid. In his recent book Thank You for Your Servitude, my colleague Mark Leibovich quoted a former Republican representative who bluntly summarized his party’s plan for dealing with Trump: “We’re just waiting for him to die.” As it turns out, this is not an uncommon sentiment. In my conversations with Republicans, I heard repeatedly that the least disruptive path to getting rid of Trump, grim as it sounds, might be to wait for his expiration.Their rationale was straightforward: The former president is 76 years old, overweight, appears to maintain the diet of a college freshman, and believes, contrary to all known science, that exercise is bad for you. Why risk alienating his supporters when nature will take its course sooner or later? Peter Meijer, a former Republican representative who left office this month, termed this strategy actuarial arbitrage.“You have a lot of folks who are just wishing for [Trump’s] mortal demise,” Meijer told me. “I want to be clear: I’m not in that camp. But I’ve heard from a lot of people who will go onstage and put on the red hat, and then give me a call the next day and say, ‘I can’t wait until this guy dies.’ And it’s like, Good Lord.” (Trump’s mother died at 88 and his father at 93, so this strategy isn’t exactly foolproof.)
Their rationale was straightforward: The former president is 76 years old, overweight, appears to maintain the diet of a college freshman, and believes, contrary to all known science, that exercise is bad for you. Why risk alienating his supporters when nature will take its course sooner or later? Peter Meijer, a former Republican representative who left office this month, termed this strategy actuarial arbitrage.
“You have a lot of folks who are just wishing for [Trump’s] mortal demise,” Meijer told me. “I want to be clear: I’m not in that camp. But I’ve heard from a lot of people who will go onstage and put on the red hat, and then give me a call the next day and say, ‘I can’t wait until this guy dies.’ And it’s like, Good Lord.” (Trump’s mother died at 88 and his father at 93, so this strategy isn’t exactly foolproof.)
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2023/01/2024-republican-primary-donald-trump-deus-ex-machina/672888/
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 30 January 2023 17:58 (one year ago) link
The exchange with Portman at the end, ridiculous.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 30 January 2023 18:02 (one year ago) link
But I’ve heard from a lot of people who will go onstage and put on the red hat, and then give me a call the next day and say, ‘I can’t wait until this guy dies.’
looool
― Karl Malone, Monday, 30 January 2023 18:03 (one year ago) link
Meantime
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/30/nyregion/trump-stormy-daniels-grand-jury.html
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 30 January 2023 18:04 (one year ago) link
“I want to be clear: I’m not in that camp."
Ten minutes later:
"Can we go off the record now? All right. Just make sure you include that quote about me not wanting him to die, OK? But, god, I can't wait for him to die."
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Monday, 30 January 2023 18:33 (one year ago) link
the looming DeSantis/Trump showdown is gonna be wild, especially if things start turning against him. can't imagine he's gonna handle it the way Bernie did.
― frogbs, Monday, 30 January 2023 18:42 (one year ago) link
He destroyed a whole generation of "up and coming" GOPers in 2016, I genuinely want him to do it again, but I'm afraid he's not up to the task.
― Alicia Silver Stone (Boring, Maryland), Monday, 30 January 2023 18:55 (one year ago) link
lol knowing this guy's luck, *DeSantis* is going to be the one that dies.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 30 January 2023 19:15 (one year ago) link
Fine with me
― frogbs, Monday, 30 January 2023 19:22 (one year ago) link
Why not both?
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 30 January 2023 20:12 (one year ago) link
They're both in the same state, the right hurricane might take care of both in one fell swoop
― Andy the Grasshopper, Monday, 30 January 2023 20:25 (one year ago) link
DeSantis should drop a new mixtape featuring a verse by Trump, in which Trump murders him, and DeSantis is so embarrassed he disappears. And then Trump dies.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 30 January 2023 20:46 (one year ago) link
the looming DeSantis/Trump showdown is gonna be wild
i honestly can't wait for this
― Tracer Hand, Monday, 30 January 2023 22:08 (one year ago) link
They're both in the same state, the right hurricane alligator might take care of both in one fell swoop
Fixed.
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 30 January 2023 22:21 (one year ago) link
https://static1.colliderimages.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/imgonline-com-ua-resize-E3pjoVBZ81Cn.jpg?q=50&fit=contain&w=1140&h=&dpr=1.5
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 30 January 2023 22:28 (one year ago) link
Those guys are so tough no mere alligator could take them.
― tobo73, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 00:05 (one year ago) link
are we certain Desantis is going to run? I think he might wimp out.
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 00:19 (one year ago) link
Don't you mean he might woke out?
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 00:38 (one year ago) link
apparently he is preparing for a run, according to a bunch of news outlets quoting inside sources.
― treeship., Tuesday, 31 January 2023 02:33 (one year ago) link
everyone expects him to, and if he ever wants to this would be the time to do it. his stock's never gonna be higher
― frogbs, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 03:15 (one year ago) link
He's not running *cough* I'm running.
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 03:17 (one year ago) link
america isn't ready for a music critic president
― treeship., Tuesday, 31 January 2023 03:20 (one year ago) link
a Negroni drinking president
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 03:21 (one year ago) link
Soto/(Nude) Gyllenhaal '24
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 04:17 (one year ago) link
Well, yeah.
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 10:35 (one year ago) link
I had a vivid dream about two weeks ago... Jerry Orbach-era L&O, with Det Briscoe on the trail of some shirtless, leather-jacket wearing cat burglar. When he finally catches up with the perp and his associates, they're wearing "Stipe/Biles '24" lapel badges. "Good luck with that," says Briscoe.
So, there are options.
― Michael Jones, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 11:07 (one year ago) link
― Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 12:24 (one year ago) link
michael stipe and simone biles the gymnast?
― treeship., Tuesday, 31 January 2023 13:27 (one year ago) link
Briscoe didn’t clarify. But it was my brain so I guess so!
― Michael Jones, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 13:58 (one year ago) link
amazing dream
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 16:39 (one year ago) link
that is one hell of a dream/post
― not too strange just bad audio (brimstead), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 16:48 (one year ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/5ykPh6e.png
― Karl Malone, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 18:54 (one year ago) link
The Lion, The Bitch & The Wardrobe
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 20:44 (one year ago) link
nailed it
― assert (matttkkkk), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 21:01 (one year ago) link
RealDonaldTrump meets a lion he is 100% getting mauled
― Camaraderie at Arms Length, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 21:04 (one year ago) link
AI art has gone too far
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 21:08 (one year ago) link
https://api.time.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/donald-trump-2016-election-biography-photos-24.jpg?resize=2048,1336
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 21:14 (one year ago) link
Donald probably thinks its name is Assland
― I HAVE NO IDEA HOW THE DIAPER GOT LOOSE (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 21:30 (one year ago) link
or Asian
― nashwan, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 21:36 (one year ago) link
the hands in that lion painting seem a little.. small
― Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 21:48 (one year ago) link
Even in those worshipful paintings he still has the bearing and posture of someone who has freshly shit themselves.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 22:11 (one year ago) link
He should be in a goregrind band
― I HAVE NO IDEA HOW THE DIAPER GOT LOOSE (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 22:41 (one year ago) link
does the artist know how big a lion actually is? and why is Trump dressed like a hotel doorman
― Alicia Silver Stone (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 23:21 (one year ago) link
lol this nerd is going to get booted off mainstream social media again faster than Kanye*.
2 days after saying he still believes Putin more than the US Intel Community, the current Republican front runner for President reposts a message encouraging people to be “locked and LOADED” to “physically fight for him this time.”Normal signs of a well-functioning democracy. pic.twitter.com/sH9iE3C5Z3— Pete Strzok (@petestrzok) February 1, 2023
*Though probably not, sigh ...
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 16:37 (one year ago) link
People my age and old
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 16:42 (one year ago) link
the 15 millionth ilx post is coming up in only 14K posts...what if we let bygones be bygones and invite him to the The 200,000th Thread Anticipation, Celebration, & Physical Fights Thread and contain his physical fighting challenges in there
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 16:44 (one year ago) link
he'd get to 51 so fast
― symsymsym, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 16:45 (one year ago) link
This is pretty snarky, even by Chotiner standards:
https://www.newyorker.com/news/q-and-a/are-republicans-ready-to-move-on-from-donald-trump
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 16:48 (one year ago) link
There was really no need to include his own little pissy asides
― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 16:51 (one year ago) link
Fitting that "They got my 6" tweet came from Texas.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwXkKDiNI4U
― Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 16:52 (one year ago) link
There's no need to interview people who speak of themselves in the third person. ("Here's what Jim Rinacci thinks, okay?")
― but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 16:56 (one year ago) link
― Tracer Hand,
oh there absolutely was -- I wish fucking NYT reporters did it.
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 16:57 (one year ago) link
In your initial responses to my questions, you expressed concern that other people would have qualms about Trump. But it seems like you have some qualms, too.Renacci: Well, I do. But, as I said, I have qualms that could be changed with him coming out and just saying, “This isn’t about me. This isn’t about the 2020 election anymore. This isn’t about January 6th. This is about me getting back and changing the country and representing the people.” Do I think there were problems in the 2020 election? Yes, I do. But I also believe in the Constitution, and I believe that the Constitution tells us that once the House and the Senate vote, the election’s over.
Renacci: Well, I do. But, as I said, I have qualms that could be changed with him coming out and just saying, “This isn’t about me. This isn’t about the 2020 election anymore. This isn’t about January 6th. This is about me getting back and changing the country and representing the people.” Do I think there were problems in the 2020 election? Yes, I do. But I also believe in the Constitution, and I believe that the Constitution tells us that once the House and the Senate vote, the election’s over.
what's kind of amazing is that if Trump could somehow force himself to say those things, even though it would be very obvious that he didn't mean any of those things at all, he would win the GOP nomination (and he might anyway, imo). even after everything that has happened. all he has to do is say the things he very obviously doesn't believe, and his base would understand that he was just saying the things he was being forced to say (like when he told the proud boys to stand down and stand by), and he wins. he could even do some bullshit like say "i know that i won the 2020 election, and i know that all of you know that and i am a proud boy for all of you who fought so hard for me, but the time has come to focus on 2024 bla bla bla" and that would be enough, if he actually just focus. but he can't.
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 17:10 (one year ago) link
that new yorker convo with Renacci is really funny, though. "congressman, you're a smart guy", lol
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 17:13 (one year ago) link
"Maybe he has a thing against talking in the third person."
Isaac Chotiner is a real one there. I don't understand how he continues to get these interviews, but I'm here for it
― octobeard, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 17:58 (one year ago) link
I see these two statements repeated constantly:
1. Trump remains, arguably, the most powerful Republican in the country.2. Aside from his most blinkered loyalists, virtually everyone in the party agrees: It’s time to move on from Trump.
Honest question here. Why does #2 not negate #1?
― Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 17:59 (one year ago) link
here's the key part, nothing to see here
So you would still support him if he won the nomination?I would support him as a Republican, because the Democratic Party has gone so far away from the ideals and principles of where we should be going. Absolutely I would support him if he was the nominee.
I would support him as a Republican, because the Democratic Party has gone so far away from the ideals and principles of where we should be going. Absolutely I would support him if he was the nominee.
― frogbs, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 18:01 (one year ago) link
"everyone in the party" apparently doesn't include the party's voters
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 18:01 (one year ago) link
2, translated: Trump is kind of a shitty candidate.1, translated: the party's even shittier.
― The Terroir of Tiny Town (WmC), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 18:05 (one year ago) link
to answer Dan's question, obviously a lot of these guys are gonna talk about Jan. 6 and election denial and all the legal problems he has but the real reason is that he's a loser. despite there being generally favorable conditions for Republicans, they've now underperformed in 3 straight elections and a lot of Republicans are starting to suspect it's because Trump is not only motivating a lot of turnout for the Dems (lets face it, there's no reason Joe freakin' Biden should've gotten more votes than any Democrat in history) but also because he's strongarming them into running a lot of genuine weirdos like Dr. Oz and Blake Masters. it's not a stretch to say he's singlehandedly cost them both houses of Congress.
in other words its like saying Aaron Rodgers is the best QB on the Packers' roster, but it's still time to move on, because you aren't winning shit with him anymore.
― frogbs, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 18:09 (one year ago) link
Part of is that moving on from Trump, or running against him, means making an enemy of someone who will never shut up and has the blind loyalty of many millions of people
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 18:11 (one year ago) link
yea Liz Cheney's seat was really safe until she was brave enough to uhhhh point out what we all saw on video
― frogbs, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 18:14 (one year ago) link
He said You’re Fired on tv and earned about 30 million permanent votes
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 18:24 (one year ago) link
lol this nerd is going to get booted off mainstream social media again faster than Kanye
yeah I doubt it this time. musk isn't going to kick him off twitter (not that he's using it...yet). meta reinstating him despite everything seems to indicate they feel it's too risky to be anything but totally hands off on this going forward.
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 18:25 (one year ago) link
He's not even the best drummer in the Beatles.
― forbidden fruit salad (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 18:28 (one year ago) link
someone who will never shut up and has the blind loyalty of many millions of people
Perhaps just as importantly, someone who will never shut up and has the not-so-blind loyalty of every influential media company which eagerly monetize both his many millions of blindly loyal followers and his many millions of vehement detractors. it's a self-supporting ecosystem.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 19:02 (one year ago) link
sure but it still seems like even FOX doesn't wanna touch the guy anymore. surely that'll change as primaries come up but the guy is just a shell of his former self. he has none of the energy he had in 2016 and if anything has gotten tremendously weirder. feels a bit like the Herschel Walker thing, even the people who support him think it's probably a bad idea to have him on TV right now
― frogbs, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 19:15 (one year ago) link
We all said this in 2016 and look what happened
― Alicia Silver Stone (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 19:30 (one year ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPNwJAcMH5U
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 10 February 2023 22:01 (one year ago) link
meatball ron there you go so much better
Trump has been mocking DeSantis in casual conversations, calling him “Meatball Ron” and “Shutdown Ron,” a reference to coronavirus closures that Trump’s team believes cast DeSantis as a fake https://t.co/54t0ZE5FWG— Maggie Haberman (@maggieNYT) February 12, 2023
― lag∞n, Sunday, 12 February 2023 18:40 (one year ago) link
I can get behind Meatball Ron, they must have market tested that one.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 12 February 2023 18:57 (one year ago) link
When you get right down to it we're all just balls of meat
― Auf Der Martini (Ye Mad Puffin), Sunday, 12 February 2023 20:09 (one year ago) link
"All we are is balls of meat..." - Kansas
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 12 February 2023 20:11 (one year ago) link
Classic Trump barb, it scores extra points for being simultaneously dismissive, xenophobic, and body-shaming
― epistantophus, Sunday, 12 February 2023 20:44 (one year ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_LX4yZjSoA
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 12 February 2023 20:53 (one year ago) link
Meatball Ron is great. Shutdown Ron makes no sense because Florida was famously resistant to federal covid guidelines.
― treeship., Sunday, 12 February 2023 21:04 (one year ago) link
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FpCXzIoXgB0Q9YM?format=jpg&name=medium
― lag∞n, Thursday, 16 February 2023 02:12 (one year ago) link
i read this earlier today, and got hung up on "I told Nikki to follow her heart, not her ambition or belief." what does he mean by that? also imagine someone telling you not to follow your belief
― President of Destiny Encounters International (Karl Malone), Thursday, 16 February 2023 02:15 (one year ago) link
His new york bitchiness is his most relatable and endearing trait.
― treeship., Thursday, 16 February 2023 02:17 (one year ago) link
We could have been saved from the last seven years if only E! had given him a talk show in 2015.
― papal hotwife (milo z), Thursday, 16 February 2023 03:52 (one year ago) link
^the saddest words of tongue or pen
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 16 February 2023 03:53 (one year ago) link
I like this new direction in his tweets, honing his backhanded compliment game.
― Alicia Silver Stone (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 16 February 2023 16:07 (one year ago) link
Not a tweet, but a TRUTH!
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 16 February 2023 17:35 (one year ago) link
the universe will only be put right when he comes up with a nickname for her.. Failing Haley, Tricky Nikki, etc.
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 16 February 2023 17:38 (one year ago) link
haley's going to go down in flames. the two notable aspects of her campaign so far are that it's explicitly christian nationalist (i know, i know: more visibly so than most candidates) and that she keeps referring to trump as her friend even as he tries to tear her down.
https://t.co/yKuzW16bb6 pic.twitter.com/xdfPPpt0tH— Poli Alert (@polialertcom) February 16, 2023
― President of Destiny Encounters International (Karl Malone), Thursday, 16 February 2023 17:43 (one year ago) link
and re: questions asked in some doc I will never see, well maybe they should be asking about the Evens and maybe the 2005 tour with The Ex or y'know any of the other cool things Ian & Amy have been up to, do the fucking homeworkat least they're fucking trying...
haley's going to go down in flames. the two notable aspects of her campaign so far are that it's explicitly christian nationalist (i know, i know: more visibly so than most candidates) and that she keeps referring to trump as her friend even as he tries to tear her down. 🐦[https://t.co/yKuzW16bb6🕸 pic.twitter.com/xdfPPpt0tH🕸— Poli Alert (@polialertcom) February 16, 2023🕸]🐦
― his cartoon heart expands, then he relaxes by smoking crack (stevie), Thursday, 16 February 2023 18:25 (one year ago) link
Sorry pressed the wrong button on ZING!
― his cartoon heart expands, then he relaxes by smoking crack (stevie), Thursday, 16 February 2023 18:26 (one year ago) link
i finally made it into a tweet!
*celebrates*
― President of Destiny Encounters International (Karl Malone), Thursday, 16 February 2023 18:27 (one year ago) link
Congrats Karl!
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 16 February 2023 18:36 (one year ago) link
i hope it goes viral! i know the the low-performing tweets don't get compensated well, but once you make it into the 100M+ territory, that's where you can actually make a great deal of money pretty quickly
― President of Destiny Encounters International (Karl Malone), Thursday, 16 February 2023 18:38 (one year ago) link
I saw the Evens once
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 16 February 2023 18:40 (one year ago) link
lol that one about appointing her ambassador hes mad
― lag∞n, Thursday, 16 February 2023 18:51 (one year ago) link
wait, whose tweet km?
― POLIZISTEN VERSINKEN IM SCHLAMM (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 16 February 2023 19:06 (one year ago) link
Oh, I was just goofing on stevie’s post a bit upthread, where part of my ILX post got incorporated into a tweet, sort of. It was a zing disaster, something I’m no stranger to
― President of Destiny Encounters International (Karl Malone), Thursday, 16 February 2023 19:07 (one year ago) link
Aging Act refuses to acknowledge their latest hit
The gloves are off pic.twitter.com/5kc4u7llMt— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) February 18, 2023
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 18 February 2023 20:33 (one year ago) link
"His loyalty skills are really weak."
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Saturday, 18 February 2023 21:31 (one year ago) link
lol i will never call meatball ron meatball ron
― lag∞n, Saturday, 18 February 2023 23:09 (one year ago) link
Did Paul Ryan kill Fox News?
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Saturday, 18 February 2023 23:10 (one year ago) link
Who are we to speak of apophasis?
― nat king cole slaw (Ye Mad Puffin), Sunday, 19 February 2023 15:48 (one year ago) link
His screeds are so unintelligible, his appeal must be getting more "selective" by this point, surely?
― his cartoon heart expands, then he relaxes by smoking crack (stevie), Sunday, 19 February 2023 16:29 (one year ago) link
meatball
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FpWCG2UXwAE4SXO?format=jpg&name=small
― lag∞n, Sunday, 19 February 2023 16:52 (one year ago) link
hes going to war god bless
disasters ALL
― here you go, muttonchops Yaz (gyac), Sunday, 19 February 2023 16:53 (one year ago) link
it's gonna be a Trump-DeSantis ticket
― symsymsym, Sunday, 19 February 2023 16:53 (one year ago) link
Spaghetti (brain) & Meatball
― here you go, muttonchops Yaz (gyac), Sunday, 19 February 2023 16:57 (one year ago) link
Club for NO Growth, good one
― President of Destiny Encounters International (Karl Malone), Sunday, 19 February 2023 16:58 (one year ago) link
"Ron DeSanctimonious"
I'll give that Christgau's stoic emoji (which I don't think I can cut-and-paste here): "may impress once or twice with consistent craft or an arresting track or two. Then it won't."
― clemenza, Sunday, 19 February 2023 16:59 (one year ago) link
To the tune of TransformersDeSantisRINO in disguiseDeSantisLess than meets the eyes
― here you go, muttonchops Yaz (gyac), Sunday, 19 February 2023 17:00 (one year ago) link
a dissenting opinion
i’m telling y’all, desanctimonious is a kill shot for republican primary voters. trump is taking the “me or it all burns” approach. https://t.co/xO99XSHYHb— depressed knick fan/sami zayn lookalike (@will_crist) February 19, 2023
― lag∞n, Sunday, 19 February 2023 17:21 (one year ago) link
It all burns regardless
― عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.), Sunday, 19 February 2023 18:16 (one year ago) link
title for the eventual primary thread
― POLIZISTEN VERSINKEN IM SCHLAMM (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 19 February 2023 19:30 (one year ago) link
If Trump doesn’t get the nomination I expect an insurrection at the GOP convention
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Sunday, 19 February 2023 19:37 (one year ago) link
that would be cool (if no one dies) but if he doesn't get the nomination i expect that will be because he completely fucks up somehow or everyone is just exhausted with him.
at this point, partly due to the winner takes all form of the gop primaries, he still seems like the frontrunner because he can "win" individual states by picking up the 30-35% of his zombie horde and then let all the other people he's making fun of split the rest of the vote
― President of Destiny Encounters International (Karl Malone), Sunday, 19 February 2023 19:41 (one year ago) link
He’s only in trouble if it’s him and Ron, one on one, maga a maga
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Sunday, 19 February 2023 19:48 (one year ago) link
and even then, as many people in FL have pointed out, ron desantis is just a massively unlikable dickhead. so is trump, but he's more performatively cruel. desantis' cruelty comes in the forms of policies and stunts that he only tepidly brags about. trump is just a massive loud cruel asshole - gop primary voters eat that shit up.
i think the big battle is whether the white evangelical leaders will throw their weight behind desantis or trump. if they somehow go for desantis, maybe trump is in trouble. but white evangelical leaders are the most heartless cruel fuckers of the century, so i expect they'll side with trump again
― President of Destiny Encounters International (Karl Malone), Sunday, 19 February 2023 19:52 (one year ago) link
i think desantis would actually be "better" for white evangelicals overall, in terms of suppressing and even punishing non-christians. but trump is more liable to just pay the leaders off by channeling money to them in various ways. it's gonna be a battle
― President of Destiny Encounters International (Karl Malone), Sunday, 19 February 2023 19:54 (one year ago) link
the party elites backing desantis in order to get rid of trump obviously just plays into his hands, tho not as much as supporting him would, tough times for the party elites
― lag∞n, Sunday, 19 February 2023 20:03 (one year ago) link
i do think it's funny how trump is taking this opportunity, right after all the post-SOTU fuss with republicans pretending they don't want to cut the safety net, that ron desantis wants to cut the safety net
― President of Destiny Encounters International (Karl Malone), Sunday, 19 February 2023 20:05 (one year ago) link
Another vote here for an insurrection at the GOP convention. With maybe a bit of light hostage taking just to show they're serious about it. This would help sharpen the contradictions as the saying goes.
This would be especially helpful for all the down ballot GOP candidates who'd have to publicly declare whose side they're on before the general election in November, thereby ensuring their abandonment by a large chunk of GOP voters who vehemently disagree with their choice. Win-win!
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Sunday, 19 February 2023 20:07 (one year ago) link
I e joy a good dumpster fire as much as, uh, the next dumpster fire fan. (With the eternal caveat that I also enjoyed 2016, thinking it would go exactly that badly for GOPenises, except that it kinda didn't.)
Also I want to create a music called Dumpster Fyre Festival but I know I'd never be able to do that because it's a trademark
― nat king cole slaw (Ye Mad Puffin), Sunday, 19 February 2023 22:36 (one year ago) link
When it comes down to it Trump v. DeSantis is a replay of Trump v. Cruz. Cruz was much more palatable with religious leaders and was popular with tea party types, but he was unlikable and the voters went with the big dog.
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Sunday, 19 February 2023 22:55 (one year ago) link
maga a maga*polite applause*
― normal AI yankovic (Hunt3r), Sunday, 19 February 2023 23:13 (one year ago) link
also, if i had to watch a victim of intra-faction violence burn (and painfully), trump or cruz, i'd actually enjoy cruz more. i can think of at least one reason. but who and what reasons are yours, lol? fwiw i'm not sure i'd even care about desantis. should i change that position? should i really enjoy his imagined destruction more?
― normal AI yankovic (Hunt3r), Sunday, 19 February 2023 23:20 (one year ago) link
Yeah maga a maga is very good
― nat king cole slaw (Ye Mad Puffin), Sunday, 19 February 2023 23:27 (one year ago) link
I don't want a goddamn dumpster fire. Stop it.
I want them both to die.
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 19 February 2023 23:34 (one year ago) link
Don't make me choose
― عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.), Sunday, 19 February 2023 23:37 (one year ago) link
Any kind of "horserace" encouragement is evil and I'm gonna call it out. Whoever wins the nomination will have earned it for being more hateful, malevolent, and fascist than any candidate in a putative democracy.
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 19 February 2023 23:39 (one year ago) link
Kids will die because of this nominee
da ghost of morbs
― lag∞n, Sunday, 19 February 2023 23:48 (one year ago) link
y'all, i regret that self-satifying last post of mine. actually sorry. i try to be better, and at the very least, i try to stfu if that's impossible. failed there. stay well and remember soto's post, it's real.
― normal AI yankovic (Hunt3r), Sunday, 19 February 2023 23:51 (one year ago) link
No apologies necessary. The horse race is addictive. But Neanderthal and I live in Florida, and this shit's real.
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 19 February 2023 23:58 (one year ago) link
name a potential republican candidate who won't lead to dead kids
― POLIZISTEN VERSINKEN IM SCHLAMM (forksclovetofu), Monday, 20 February 2023 01:42 (one year ago) link
that's my point
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 20 February 2023 01:44 (one year ago) link
i just remembered john huntsman
― President of Destiny Encounters International (Karl Malone), Monday, 20 February 2023 01:45 (one year ago) link
he liked Yes!
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 20 February 2023 01:46 (one year ago) link
wait - i don't know this reference. remind me please!
― President of Destiny Encounters International (Karl Malone), Monday, 20 February 2023 01:48 (one year ago) link
xxxp, yes; i'm agreeing with you.
― POLIZISTEN VERSINKEN IM SCHLAMM (forksclovetofu), Monday, 20 February 2023 01:50 (one year ago) link
Point taken, Alfred, I will govern myself accordingly
― nat king cole slaw (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 20 February 2023 02:37 (one year ago) link
all three, surely?
― his cartoon heart expands, then he relaxes by smoking crack (stevie), Monday, 20 February 2023 08:27 (one year ago) link
tbc I'm not gonna police the thread, and as 2024 approaches it's inevitable that we/I turn our/my attention to the horse race; but when we turn to who's-up/who's-down in the Chuck Todd manner, devoid of morality, my stomach turns.
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 20 February 2023 10:48 (one year ago) link
I think, at this point, we’re worrying about which of these chuds we will be up against in 2024. It’s telling that the press is largely giving DeSantis a pass on his horrible actions mainly because they don’t want Trump as the nominee again.
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Monday, 20 February 2023 12:55 (one year ago) link
I am not exactly breaking new ground here, but he is clearly mentally ill, possibly as a result of, or made worse by, extended drug use.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 20 February 2023 13:53 (one year ago) link
xp Are they though? From my vantage point in Minnesota, Florida is the state whose politics I’ve seen the most coverage of in the last few years. Way beyond the former champ, Texas.
― عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.), Monday, 20 February 2023 13:56 (one year ago) link
And, to be fair to Florida journalism, our local papers have extensively covered -- editorialized about -- DeSantis' horrors
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 20 February 2023 13:58 (one year ago) link
I feel like the coverage I see is a lot about political positioning
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Monday, 20 February 2023 14:04 (one year ago) link
centrist dem pundit class not really caring about book banning is i guess not surprising but upsetting none the less particularly considering their enthusiastic coverage of the politics of higher education
― lag∞n, Monday, 20 February 2023 14:04 (one year ago) link
Ron DeSantis Is Not Scott Walker
His support among Republicans at this early stage of the primary cycle puts him in rare company.
By Nate CohnPublished Feb. 13, 2023Updated Feb. 15, 2023
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Monday, 20 February 2023 14:06 (one year ago) link
xpost that's national political press, though, a cloaca in the best of times. Flipping through channels last week, though, I caught "Morning" Joe denouncing a (dismissed) proposal requiring teenage girls to disclose their menstrual status.
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 20 February 2023 14:07 (one year ago) link
yeah cant speak to the florida press but nationally the desantis coverage while voluminous hasnt been great
― lag∞n, Monday, 20 February 2023 14:32 (one year ago) link
It’s possible I’m in my own self-structured echo chamber. What I’m seeing stops just short of putting trans students and their parents in public stocks and giving everyone else a mandatory stone
― عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.), Monday, 20 February 2023 14:37 (one year ago) link
My hometown paper's opinion page: https://www.miamiherald.com/opinion/
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 20 February 2023 14:37 (one year ago) link
I was visiting my dad in the Tampa area last week. There was a scathing op ed in the Times (I think) about DeSantis's racism. It was, if I recall correctly, on the front page.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 20 February 2023 18:05 (one year ago) link
Good thing no one reads the dying lamestream media.
― Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Monday, 20 February 2023 18:08 (one year ago) link
The failing Tampa Times
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 20 February 2023 18:13 (one year ago) link
I almost posted “the MH. how many divisions do they have”? but after libations, i post it. lol i’m sure negronis would have afforded better judgment to me, blee me mine were not that good. 🙂
― liberal with a capital LIE (Hunt3r), Monday, 20 February 2023 23:04 (one year ago) link
he's slightly modified his "joke" about the n-word
Trump: "You have two n-words, neither of which should ever be mentioned ... you know what the one is, but the other is the nuclear word." pic.twitter.com/vBYmX5nRdh— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) February 21, 2023
more than once, he has told it more along the lines of "we all know what the n-word is, right?", and then he waits for everyone in the crowd to laugh at the really funny question, before eventually clarifying that he definitely mean nuclear
― President of Destiny Encounters International (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 21 February 2023 01:27 (one year ago) link
I hope he runs and I hope he is absolutely obliterated, and I don't mean metaphorically
― his cartoon heart expands, then he relaxes by smoking crack (stevie), Tuesday, 21 February 2023 08:59 (one year ago) link
I hope the chuds turn on them both.
― put a VONC on it (suzy), Tuesday, 21 February 2023 09:08 (one year ago) link
Trump claims the US has surpassed socialism and is now a Marxist communist country pic.twitter.com/Jz12XFVryv— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) February 21, 2023
also extraordinary.
― the pinefox, Tuesday, 21 February 2023 10:32 (one year ago) link
They’ve gone along beyond that what they’re going
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Tuesday, 21 February 2023 12:50 (one year ago) link
You know, I was just thinking that while on my way to work in a collective farm where the means of production is owned by the proletariat
― nat king cole slaw (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 21 February 2023 13:02 (one year ago) link
i'm going to take a massive dump and ensure it is evenly distributed amongst Trump and the rest of the GOP
― waiting for a czar to fall (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 21 February 2023 16:06 (one year ago) link
I avoid videos of trump but maybe I shouldn't; watching that clip, it's nearly impossible to imagine him getting anywhere near the white house again.
― rob, Tuesday, 21 February 2023 16:12 (one year ago) link
love him to be getting near back seat of hearse. like come on his cholesterol is through the roof even w/ a statin
― waiting for a czar to fall (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 21 February 2023 16:41 (one year ago) link
Every time a famous person dies that is younger and more healthy than him, I get kind of frustrated ngl.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 21 February 2023 16:43 (one year ago) link
Every time anyone who dies who isn't him, I get kind of frustrated agl.
― Maggot Bairn (Tom D.), Tuesday, 21 February 2023 16:49 (one year ago) link
― better than whoever you are (gyac), Tuesday, 21 February 2023 17:03 (one year ago) link
He seems really disinterested, for someone motivated by spite and desperation
― his cartoon heart expands, then he relaxes by smoking crack (stevie), Tuesday, 21 February 2023 17:25 (one year ago) link
Hope he wrecks the rest on the way out!
From your mouth to the ears of the gods.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 21 February 2023 18:41 (one year ago) link
Ya this version of Trump has like 20% of the energy of 2016 Trump and none of the charisma, which is to say he still looks more electable than desantis
― frogbs, Tuesday, 21 February 2023 19:36 (one year ago) link
Oooh, pass the Bactine!
― steely flan (suzy), Tuesday, 21 February 2023 19:41 (one year ago) link
Trump's thought/conversational patterns were always circuitous and rambling, but he now sounds exactly like James Austin Johnson's impression of him. He's become the parody.
― Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 21 February 2023 20:12 (one year ago) link
He sounds kinda sad we never stopped at the Socialist Station, maybe he heard they have good burgers or something.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 21 February 2023 20:18 (one year ago) link
Good berders
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 21 February 2023 20:20 (one year ago) link
After reading the many comments posted above about the Trump clip in the Rupar tweet I had high hopes of seeing a much different and diminished Trump. I'm sorry to say I saw nothing there that his past voters would shy away from or reject as unacceptable. It's no different than his normal incoherence. His supporters will hear all the right notes and ignore the things we notice the most.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 21 February 2023 20:41 (one year ago) link
Like how he has to pause between the words "Socialiat" and "station", because he's never once been on a train and has no idea where they go when they are not running.
― henry s, Tuesday, 21 February 2023 20:44 (one year ago) link
His supporters will hear all the right notes and ignore the things we notice the most.
In 201whatever the critique of the critique of Trump was that we took him literally but not seriously, while his supporters took him seriously but not literally.
We forget this at our peril.
― nat king cole slaw (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 21 February 2023 20:59 (one year ago) link
So you had people who weren't so much pro-Trump as anti-anti-Trump. The more the "elites" mocked him, the more he was loved by chuds. So let's be careful how we evaluate his current chances, despite how tempting it is
(maybe at some point this repeated caveat can just be taken as assumed and not repeated endlessly)
― nat king cole slaw (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 21 February 2023 21:02 (one year ago) link
It would be a little easier to dismiss his chances if he were locked up. Just sayin'...
― Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 21 February 2023 21:31 (one year ago) link
Being locked up is not a bar to being elected. We'd all be better off if he were fuckin' dead.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 21 February 2023 21:32 (one year ago) link
hell just call him and tell him he's locked out of his home, he'll believe it and start screaming and banging on his windows and then call him to tell him that liberals removed the air from his home and he'll believe it and suffocate and die.
― waiting for a czar to fall (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 21 February 2023 21:33 (one year ago) link
jimbeaux otm. whatever 'martyrdom' blah blah at this point i'm just wanting to be rid of him.
the damage is done, him being gone doesn't magically end the GOP march towards fascism but it at least removes one of its players from the chess board
― waiting for a czar to fall (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 21 February 2023 21:34 (one year ago) link
No one of whom I am aware has the ability to mobilize the mouth-breathing troglodytes like Trump.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 21 February 2023 21:36 (one year ago) link
I mean it'll be a power vacuum but it wasn't as if more extreme right-wing candidates weren't starting to gain footholds even pre-Trump.
him dying leads them to splinter a bit though which helps
― waiting for a czar to fall (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 21 February 2023 21:38 (one year ago) link
it's quite possible I've been out of the country too long at this point and I'm missing the overall US vibe, but trump long-windedly rambling through that tortured train station analogy, getting slightly lost mid-riff, and ending up complaining about "the commies" just doesn't have the juice his past public appearances had imo. I'm not advising anyone to take it easy or anything — and I have no illusions that the core 40% maniac electorate will vote for him, Ron, or whoever the hell — but idk he's lost almost all the showbiz dazzle he once had. maybe that won't matter, I'm not making any predictions, I literally meant it's hard for me to imagine him succeeding again
alternately, it's just that the terror his public appearances used to precipitate in me has finally gone, which means nothing outside of my own brain
― rob, Tuesday, 21 February 2023 21:49 (one year ago) link
a big factor, i think, which is also very hard to measure and very subjective is how people are watching footage of trump these days. up until the early 2010s, it seems like evening news and mainstream newspapers was a major source, maybe the major source. at some point the major sources switched to just straight up propaganda (fox and rightwing radio already being a thing, then breitbart and daily caller then newsmax and OANN and wherever dumbasses get their news from these days)
i guess what i'm trying to say is that i don't think many conservative voters are likely to even see trump say the dumb shit about "the commies". they'll get a version that edits that out. the people who do see it are the true diehards who will watch a full speech by him or attend a rally, and at that point they're clearly some of the worst, hateful people who are currently alive so they're already a convert
― President of Destiny Encounters International (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 21 February 2023 21:55 (one year ago) link
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FphnRyUacAA_HGk.jpg
― but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 21 February 2023 22:56 (one year ago) link
Chuds won’t be turned off, but the not insignificant segment of people who in 2016 may have been like “he’s a successful businessman and I always said we need a businessman as president and sure he says weird things but he’ll mellow out in office” may be tuned off this time.
― Alicia Silver Stone (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 21 February 2023 23:53 (one year ago) link
poll: will you be shocked
A special grand jury that investigated election interference by former President Donald J. Trump and his allies in Georgia recommended indictments of multiple people on a range of charges in its report, most of which remains sealed, the forewoman of the jury said in an interview today.“It is not a short list,” the forewoman, Emily Kohrs, said, adding that the jury had appended eight pages of legal code “that we cited at various points in the report.”She declined to discuss who specifically the special grand jury recommended for indictment, since the judge handling the case decided to keep those details secret when he made public a few sections of the report last week. But seven sections that are still under wraps deal with indictment recommendations, Ms. Kohrs said. Asked whether the jurors had recommended indicting Mr. Trump, Ms. Kohrs gave a cryptic answer: “You’re not going to be shocked. It’s not rocket science,” adding “you won’t be too surprised.”...“We definitely started with the first phone call, the call to Secretary Raffensperger that was so publicized,” said Ms. Kohrs, whom The Associated Press first named and spoke with on Tuesday about the election meddling investigation.“I will tell you that if the judge releases the recommendations, it is not going to be some giant plot twist,” she added. “You probably have a fair idea of what may be on there. I’m trying very hard to say that delicately.”
“It is not a short list,” the forewoman, Emily Kohrs, said, adding that the jury had appended eight pages of legal code “that we cited at various points in the report.”
She declined to discuss who specifically the special grand jury recommended for indictment, since the judge handling the case decided to keep those details secret when he made public a few sections of the report last week. But seven sections that are still under wraps deal with indictment recommendations, Ms. Kohrs said.
Asked whether the jurors had recommended indicting Mr. Trump, Ms. Kohrs gave a cryptic answer: “You’re not going to be shocked. It’s not rocket science,” adding “you won’t be too surprised.”
...“We definitely started with the first phone call, the call to Secretary Raffensperger that was so publicized,” said Ms. Kohrs, whom The Associated Press first named and spoke with on Tuesday about the election meddling investigation.
“I will tell you that if the judge releases the recommendations, it is not going to be some giant plot twist,” she added. “You probably have a fair idea of what may be on there. I’m trying very hard to say that delicately.”
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/02/21/us/jury-in-georgia-trump-inquiry-recommended-multiple-indictments-forewoman-says.html
― z_tbd, Wednesday, 22 February 2023 04:49 (one year ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/VIPWosK.png
― z_tbd, Wednesday, 22 February 2023 04:51 (one year ago) link
Ms. Kohrs said she was between jobs, after helping make masks during the pandemic, when she received a grand jury summons last year. Even though she didn’t vote in 2020, she said she was “insanely excited” about serving on the jury, adding, “This is one of the coolest things that’s ever happened to me.”
She could tell that not everyone on the jury felt the same way. “It seemed like everybody else was not initially happy about eight months of jury duty,” she said, and so she volunteered to be the forewoman.
Among the things that surprised her in listening to the testimony, including from a number of officials from the Trump administration, was “how much people curse in the White House.”
As forewoman, she got to swear in each of the witnesses who came through, including her state’s Republican governor, Brian Kemp.
“It was really cool,” she said. “I got 60 seconds of eye contact with everyone who came in the room. You can tell a lot about people in that 60 seconds.”
When she asked David Ralston, the former Georgia House speaker who died in November, if he swore to tell the truth during his testimony last July, he told her “it was the first time in 60 years he had said ‘I do’ to a woman,” Ms. Kohrs said.
Noting that she was 11 when the Sept. 11 attacks happened, Ms. Kohrs said that “Rudy Giuliani is almost like a myth figure in my head, so I’m already intimidated.” She said she made a point of shaking his hand when his testimony was finished.
― symsymsym, Wednesday, 22 February 2023 04:52 (one year ago) link
this is both true and also what everyone always says, like they're especially good at those 60 seconds. bush was able to get a sense of putin's soul using such methods
― z_tbd, Wednesday, 22 February 2023 04:56 (one year ago) link
As forewoman, she got to swear in each of the witnesses who came through
i keep reading this as "swear in front of" bc of the previous paragraph
― c u (crüt), Wednesday, 22 February 2023 04:57 (one year ago) link
with enough chance first interactions of people, i bet you'd find a lot of combos where both people meeting each other shake each other's hands intensely (because you can tell a lot about someone from the way they shake hands) while also staring deeply into each other's eyes (same reason)
― z_tbd, Wednesday, 22 February 2023 04:59 (one year ago) link
"John, get the fuck up to the stand, now"
― waiting for a czar to fall (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 22 February 2023 05:10 (one year ago) link
there's so much in there I missed the detail of her not voting in 2020.
― symsymsym, Wednesday, 22 February 2023 05:15 (one year ago) link
Isn’t the entire point of shaking the hand of someone like Giuliani to pull them in for the head butt? I don’t see anything about the follow through though
― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 22 February 2023 05:28 (one year ago) link
She probably didn't want to get any weird dark liquids dripping down the side of his head onto her clothing
― octobeard, Wednesday, 22 February 2023 05:53 (one year ago) link
I wonder whose idea this was. Hers? Did she have a lawyer, and if so did that lawyer try to talk her out of it? It seems to me to be a really bad idea.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 22 February 2023 14:48 (one year ago) link
it's quite possible I've been out of the country too long at this point and I'm missing the overall US vibe, but trump long-windedly rambling through that tortured train station analogy, getting slightly lost mid-riff, and ending up complaining about "the commies" just doesn't have the juice his past public appearances had imo.
― rob, Tuesday, February 21, 2023 4:49 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink
tbf hes always been like this hour long rambling rallies that the best 30 seconds gets pulled from, which is not to say he hasnt aged and worn down cause he obvs has
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 22 February 2023 17:40 (one year ago) link
The audiences for those gonzo rally speeches are just thrilled to be in The Presence of the Orange God; they aren't following every twist and turn.
Like lagoon I can both recognize decline and suspect it doesn't matter.
― nat king cole slaw (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 22 February 2023 18:19 (one year ago) link
Why are news orgs interviewing that juror? She could possibly throw the case in jeopardy.
― treeship., Wednesday, 22 February 2023 21:10 (one year ago) link
Knowing trump’s luck, I bet it will.
― treeship., Wednesday, 22 February 2023 21:11 (one year ago) link
xp That was my thought exactly. It struck me as very irresponsible.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 22 February 2023 21:13 (one year ago) link
Wasn’t she advised by the judge not to do this?
― treeship., Wednesday, 22 February 2023 21:16 (one year ago) link
i'm sure there are rightwing conspiracies being hatched right now, as well as leftwing counterparts that she was planted as foreperson in order to do exactly what she's doing now and fuck it up. i do have to wonder about the competence of any group of people who selected her as the leader
https://news.yahoo.com/cnn-panel-cringes-trump-grand-050305226.html
Honig, a former state and federal prosecutor, said that the interviews were a “horrible idea” and that prosecutors were probably wincing watching them, adding that it was “painful” to see Kohrs dropping hints.“This is a very serious prospect here,” he said. “Indicting any person, you’re talking about potentially taking away that person’s liberty. We’re talking about potentially [indicting] a former president for the first time in this nation’s history. She does not seem to be taking that very seriously.”Honig, a former assistant U.S. attorney, suggested that Kohrs’ comments could pave the way for Trump’s team to make a motion, should he be indicted, to dismiss the indictment based on grand jury impropriety.“She’s not supposed to be talking about anything really, but she’s really not supposed to be talking about the deliberations,” he said, describing Kohrs as “a prosecutor’s nightmare.”
“This is a very serious prospect here,” he said. “Indicting any person, you’re talking about potentially taking away that person’s liberty. We’re talking about potentially [indicting] a former president for the first time in this nation’s history. She does not seem to be taking that very seriously.”
Honig, a former assistant U.S. attorney, suggested that Kohrs’ comments could pave the way for Trump’s team to make a motion, should he be indicted, to dismiss the indictment based on grand jury impropriety.
“She’s not supposed to be talking about anything really, but she’s really not supposed to be talking about the deliberations,” he said, describing Kohrs as “a prosecutor’s nightmare.”
― z_tbd, Wednesday, 22 February 2023 21:22 (one year ago) link
she said she was “insanely excited” about serving on the jury, adding, “This is one of the coolest things that’s ever happened to me.”
And now she wants to tell you all about it!
― Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 22 February 2023 21:27 (one year ago) link
The greeting people involved also seems bizarre (shaking Rudy's hand, etc). You're not supposed to have any interaction with the parties involved.
― nickn, Wednesday, 22 February 2023 21:34 (one year ago) link
"It's so cool being in Witness Protection. When I was known as Jane Miller, my life was under constant threat from organized crime. Oh, and please don't print that name in the paper", the star witness informed us exclusively this afternoon.
Subsequent attempts to get back in touch with her were unsuccessful.
― waiting for a czar to fall (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 22 February 2023 21:35 (one year ago) link
Aren't jurors allowed to blab all they want after their work is done?
― henry s, Wednesday, 22 February 2023 21:36 (one year ago) link
I mean, if I am ever on a high profile jury, just try and stop me! (And comments like that will preclude me from ever serving on said juries.)
― henry s, Wednesday, 22 February 2023 21:37 (one year ago) link
I got a federal grand jury summons recently, but I was able to weasel out of it because I appeared for selection on a (non-grand) jury within the last year; one that I was not selected for
― Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 22 February 2023 21:38 (one year ago) link
(being a victim of a violent crime sucked, but it means I'll probably never be selected so there's that)
― Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 22 February 2023 21:39 (one year ago) link
i was summoned once in 2006, and never even left the lobby. read an entire Al Franken book that day.
the last time, they told me I didn't even need to show up the day before.
they must read my social media
― waiting for a czar to fall (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 22 February 2023 21:41 (one year ago) link
This reminds me that the last time I got summoned I kicked the can down the road...and next month is the end of the road.
― henry s, Wednesday, 22 February 2023 21:43 (one year ago) link
it's a pretty limited group of people that can serve on an 8 month grand jury where you instructed not to look at the news or talk to anyone about the case
― Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 22 February 2023 21:43 (one year ago) link
you really can't blame them for wanting to get their yap on as soon as it's done
― henry s, Wednesday, 22 February 2023 21:45 (one year ago) link
i shook rudys hand looked him dead in the eye and said you are americas mayor
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 22 February 2023 21:48 (one year ago) link
and we're gonna get you out of this mess, sir
― Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 22 February 2023 21:49 (one year ago) link
I laugh because when I was last called for jury duty and woman said she should be excused for this very reason and the judge said, "ma'am, this is Cook County, everyone has been, or is related to, someone who has been the victim of a crime, that's not going to get you out of performing your civic duty".
Now, I do suspect that if the case involved a violent crime and wasn't a civil case that might have actually been taken into account - but you could see the shoulders slump on other potential jurors who hoped that would be their ticket out.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 22 February 2023 21:56 (one year ago) link
when you know a secret but you're not supposed to share but technically you are allowed to share so
https://i.imgur.com/figOhQ4.png
― z_tbd, Wednesday, 22 February 2023 22:07 (one year ago) link
So he went to Ohio...
Not paper towels. This time tossing MAGA hats in a McDonalds. Leadership. pic.twitter.com/YHc5ziDnJK— Ron Filipkowski 🇺🇦 (@RonFilipkowski) February 22, 2023
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 22 February 2023 22:07 (one year ago) link
Please enjoy this 2007 video of Sylvester Stallone taste testing Trump Water and truly hating it.Easily the second most embarrassing Access Hollywood clip involving Donald Trump. https://t.co/HyIV02cqSy pic.twitter.com/spUZhpdbss— Jon Bershad (@JonBershad) February 22, 2023
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 22 February 2023 22:09 (one year ago) link
"Trump Water" is just Mar-A-Lago piss, yes?
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 22 February 2023 22:10 (one year ago) link
Grand Jury is different from a regular trial jury, you’re not allowed to talk about what you’ve done even after your service is over.
― Alicia Silver Stone (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 22 February 2023 22:23 (one year ago) link
I’m just going to be the one to say that even if they’re going after people whom I loathe and who want to kill me, grand juries seem blatantly fucked up and insane to anyone with a reasonable outlook on “justice” imho.
― Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Wednesday, 22 February 2023 23:07 (one year ago) link
xp that's what I thought as well... that's why you get $40 per day instead of $15, to keep your trap shut
― Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 22 February 2023 23:08 (one year ago) link
ok the poor hatless people of eastern Ohio now have some shitty hats, so there's that
I mean, when your economy has been fucked over by coroporate greed and your air is toxic, it's great that you have a stupid red hat. Hats are well known for their ability to protect you from economic and environmental harms wreaked upon you by... pretty much the same people who gave you a stupid red hat
carry on
― nat king cole slaw (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 23 February 2023 15:32 (one year ago) link
take notes, biden
― nat king cole slaw (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 23 February 2023 15:34 (one year ago) link
i'm reading https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/591675/american-made-by-farah-stockman/. it seems like a book length version of those NYT-on-safari-in-a-diner industrial midwest things, padded out to book length. and i guess it kind of is. but it's pretty good and th length allows her to talk a lot more about local labor history, etc. while still ultimately being a long profile of a couple of specific trump voters.
anyway, my point is, reading it, i feel confident that 1) these kinds of voters are not going to turn out for trump again en masse 2) they will never turn out for desantis.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 25 February 2023 21:26 (one year ago) link
Just a reminder about Ohio and pay for play politics. This story seemed to really go under the radar with the orange infants incessant crying.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ohio_nuclear_bribery_scandal
― The Artist formerly known as Earlnash, Saturday, 25 February 2023 23:26 (one year ago) link
nice to take both trump and desantis out of the running! this is the day nikki haley became my president
Cut every cent from every country that hates us.— Nikki Haley (@NikkiHaley) February 25, 2023
― z_tbd, Saturday, 25 February 2023 23:59 (one year ago) link
good luck ron!
Jeb Bush endorses Ron Desantis for president. pic.twitter.com/qBF0YGHcG4— Ron Filipkowski 🇺🇦 (@RonFilipkowski) February 26, 2023
― lag∞n, Sunday, 26 February 2023 17:35 (one year ago) link
and
New: With Trump running, nearly all Republican senators say no to a presidential bid“This cycle is shaping up to be very different from every cycle since 2000, where it seemed half the Senate was campaigning for president.”w/ @scottwongDC: https://t.co/fIBWEYyF9H— Sahil Kapur (@sahilkapur) February 26, 2023
― lag∞n, Sunday, 26 February 2023 17:36 (one year ago) link
Ted Cruz can humiliate his own damn self without any of your help, Mr. Trump!
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 26 February 2023 17:51 (one year ago) link
Donald Trump and a group of individuals incarcerated for their alleged involvement in the Jan. 6 riot have collaborated on a song called “Justice for All.” It will debut Thursday at midnight on streaming services, including Apple Music and Spotify, according to a person with knowledge of the project.The track interpolates Trump reciting the Pledge of Allegiance into “The Star-Spangled Banner,” which is performed by a group of about 20 inmates, called the J6 Prison Choir, housed at the Washington, D.C. jail. The song ends with the inmates chanting, “USA!”Profits are slated to benefit the families of people imprisoned for their alleged roles in the Capitol riots that left five people dead.A music video featuring footage of Trump performing patriotic acts during his presidency and shots of the riots, including police firing tear gas, will debut later Friday morning on Steve Bannon’s “War Room” podcast.
The track interpolates Trump reciting the Pledge of Allegiance into “The Star-Spangled Banner,” which is performed by a group of about 20 inmates, called the J6 Prison Choir, housed at the Washington, D.C. jail. The song ends with the inmates chanting, “USA!”
Profits are slated to benefit the families of people imprisoned for their alleged roles in the Capitol riots that left five people dead.
A music video featuring footage of Trump performing patriotic acts during his presidency and shots of the riots, including police firing tear gas, will debut later Friday morning on Steve Bannon’s “War Room” podcast.
not linking because forbes is a shitty website
― z_tbd, Friday, 3 March 2023 18:09 (one year ago) link
Find it so grim, so true, so real
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Friday, 3 March 2023 18:12 (one year ago) link
I misread that last line as performing pathetic acts.
― Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Friday, 3 March 2023 18:13 (one year ago) link
The ultimate in vanityExploiting white supremacy
― hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Friday, 3 March 2023 18:15 (one year ago) link
what patriotic acts? skipping a visit to a cemetery because his hair would get wet?
― StanM, Friday, 3 March 2023 18:17 (one year ago) link
A music video featuring footage of Trump performing patriotic acts
tossing rolls of Bounty to grateful Puerto Ricans
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 3 March 2023 18:17 (one year ago) link
holding a Bible upside down in front of a church
― StanM, Friday, 3 March 2023 18:18 (one year ago) link
ok, standing behind heaps of american berders
― StanM, Friday, 3 March 2023 18:19 (one year ago) link
getting the best health care in the united states that is unavailable to almost everyone to treat his covid, then upon discharge from the hospital, ascending to the upstairs balcony of the white house to heroically unmask himself
― z_tbd, Friday, 3 March 2023 18:22 (one year ago) link
including Apple Music and Spotify
the war on Big Tech
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 3 March 2023 18:22 (one year ago) link
Dang Don, you’ve really outdone yourself
― ian, Friday, 3 March 2023 20:00 (one year ago) link
Just clips of him shovelling McDonald’s into his face.
― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 3 March 2023 21:00 (one year ago) link
It occurs to me that I've seen tons of photos of him posing with food but I've never actually seen a picture or video of him eating.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Friday, 3 March 2023 21:22 (one year ago) link
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/donald-trump-i-love-hispanics-taco-bowl-cinco-de-mayo/
― z_tbd, Friday, 3 March 2023 21:23 (one year ago) link
i guess he was just posing in that one, too. you're looking for a food eating action shot?
there was a video of him eating pizza with a knife and fork next to Sarah Palin
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Friday, 3 March 2023 21:27 (one year ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MEMOhoWBGE
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Friday, 3 March 2023 21:29 (one year ago) link
you really want to see this?
https://maysimpkin.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/Donald-Trump-890653.jpg
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 3 March 2023 21:30 (one year ago) link
In a video set to be released on Friday, Trump will call for a “quantum leap” in the American standard of living.
Trump’s plan, shared in advance with POLITICO, calls for holding a contest to design and create up to ten new “Freedom Cities,” built from the ground up on federal land. It proposes an investment in the development of vertical-takeoff-and-landing vehicles; the creation of “hives of industry” sparked by cutting off imports from China; and a population surge sparked by “baby bonuses” to encourage would-be-parents to get on with procreation. It is all, his team says, part of a larger nationwide beautification campaign meant to inspire forward-looking visions of America’s future.
"baby bonuses"? that sounds pretty national socialist
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 3 March 2023 21:48 (one year ago) link
Great idea, but I've got a better idea. Trump and all his family and friends can buy an island somewhere, declare it tax-free/regulation-free/woke-free, then spend the rest of their days developing flying cars.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 3 March 2023 21:54 (one year ago) link
https://media.wired.com/photos/593252a2a31264584499416b/master/w_1600,c_limit/the-homer-inline2.jpg
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 3 March 2023 21:55 (one year ago) link
Future Freedom Cities, filled with As Seen On TV appliances from the Trump brand? Did he get this from Ron Popeil?
― StanM, Friday, 3 March 2023 21:56 (one year ago) link
”baby bonuses"? that sounds pretty national socialist
― let us now celebrate ama ‘piano’ smith & the clowns (breastcrawl), Friday, 3 March 2023 22:06 (one year ago) link
ha that plan rules tbf when did we forget how to dream
― lag∞n, Friday, 3 March 2023 22:06 (one year ago) link
he even knows a certain real estate developer who might be able to make them a reality
He should also make Mexico pay for the Freedom Cities and flying cars
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 3 March 2023 22:08 (one year ago) link
i was actually thinking of elon musk and how he make sure that people talk about him for the next 2 years
― z_tbd, Friday, 3 March 2023 22:09 (one year ago) link
im gonna need big vision plans from all candidates going forward
― lag∞n, Friday, 3 March 2023 22:09 (one year ago) link
Trump and all his family and friends can buy an island somewhere
is Greenland still for sale?
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 3 March 2023 22:09 (one year ago) link
i want a food truck that is just for me, stocked with my favorite fusion dishes. and i want the proceeds of the truck to go to america
― z_tbd, Friday, 3 March 2023 22:11 (one year ago) link
ILXors need to enter this design competition and make New Morbsville a reality
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 3 March 2023 22:18 (one year ago) link
"All You Can USA"
Anyway, Trump's got my vote.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 3 March 2023 22:20 (one year ago) link
These big dreams of his were obviously poured into his ear by conservative think tanks who are workshopping ways to reverse demographic trends while preparing for the next civil war (“we will need our *own* cities and plentiful child labor when we secede!”)
― epistantophus, Saturday, 4 March 2023 00:34 (one year ago) link
We are an hour into Trump's CPAC speech and it has been all grievances about his legal problems, potshots at Biden, and alternative history about how awesome his term was. There has barely been a hint of an actual 2024 campaign agenda.— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) March 4, 2023
what aaron ruper doesn't know is that he's about to launch his Freedom Cities idea. just wait til they hear about the vehicles that launch vertically, and how much time and money that will save
― z_tbd, Saturday, 4 March 2023 23:36 (one year ago) link
Fox host visits Florida diner asking who they prefer for 2024, presumably to showcase DeSantis' support, but every single person says Trump. Host then beelines to a lady wearing a DESANTIS shirt but even she says Trump or DeSantis lolpic.twitter.com/kxbUxKhicc— Ken Klippenstein (@kenklippenstein) March 3, 2023
― lag∞n, Monday, 6 March 2023 04:09 (one year ago) link
Trump’s plan, shared in advance with POLITICO, calls for holding a contest to design and create up to ten new “Freedom Cities,” built from the ground up on federal land. It proposes an investment in the development of vertical-takeoff-and-landing vehicles; the creation of “hives of industry” ...
Is this not just the plot of Brave New World?
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Monday, 6 March 2023 05:28 (one year ago) link
thinkin' about those SOMA beans
― StanM, Monday, 6 March 2023 05:29 (one year ago) link
reading the trump leaves
Trump's CPAC speech is worth paying attention to. It laid out his strategy for winning the GOP nomination (hitting DeSantis on social security & medicare) and the White House (hitting Biden on foreign policy). https://t.co/8LcH3CBTSh— Jeet Heer (@HeerJeet) March 6, 2023
― lag∞n, Monday, 6 March 2023 16:10 (one year ago) link
oh cool Beltway press gonna treat him like a normal ghoul like it's 2015 again
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 6 March 2023 16:13 (one year ago) link
i dont think thats what jeet is doing heer fwiw
― lag∞n, Monday, 6 March 2023 16:15 (one year ago) link
I ordinarily don't have a problem with him
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 6 March 2023 16:19 (one year ago) link
I have to think it's not a great sign that Trump, the presumptive Republican presidential candidate for 2024, is signaling constantly to a fascist death cult devoted to the idea that he should be a dictator. https://t.co/Dqa7WBeboj— Will Sommer (@willsommer) March 6, 2023
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 6 March 2023 16:20 (one year ago) link
Aanyone here in the year of our lord 2023 who isn't well aware that becoming a dictator for life is Trump's biggest dream...
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 6 March 2023 16:24 (one year ago) link
it's worthwhile to understand his strategy in order to plan how to beat it
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Monday, 6 March 2023 16:24 (one year ago) link
I feel like have studied history a decent amount. I am not aware of anyone who was so driven by ego to become a fascist dictator, while being comically lazy at the same time.
Seriously, yr Caesar/Napoleon/Hitler/Stalin/Mussolini type doodz were fanatical egomaniacs, sure, but they put in the WORK, yo. They brought attention to detail. They looked at maps and org charts and such.
Trump just wants his name on stuff. Low energy. Sad.
― nat king cole slaw (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 6 March 2023 16:45 (one year ago) link
Thing is, he doesn't have a "strategy" beyond just yelling his cultists' grievances back at them.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 6 March 2023 16:46 (one year ago) link
Eh, Mussolini was pretty lazy.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 6 March 2023 16:48 (one year ago) link
That's a dangerous assumption to make, hitting the competition on SS and Medicare is a fairly smart direction to go. It will be more difficult for him to paint himself as the moderate option as he did in 2016, but this kind of stuff pushes in that direction.
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Monday, 6 March 2023 16:50 (one year ago) link
Moodles, he has lucked into good lines of attack but there aren't principles behind it - it's all in the service of ego.
Mostly though he is a human feedback loop for MAGApplause. Doesn't matter what he says or whether he believes it or can even articulate it correctly, it's just "how do I get these chuds to cheer me and wear my stupid hats?" Like, embracing diversity would be a real position. Trump can only manage to tweet that he loves taco bowls. Acknowledging that non-college-educated voters are real people with real concerns would be an actual position; the best he can do is the garbled "I love the poorly educated."
Everything is filtered through the lens of whether it glorifies his name or doesn't. Everything that works gets repeated; anything that doesn't work gets rapidly abandoned. There is no secret sauce other than that. It is a remarkably simple formula, and it slightly depresses me that it has worked this well for this long.
― nat king cole slaw (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 6 March 2023 16:59 (one year ago) link
lol remember when he praised the vaccine in fall '21 -- the only good thing to emerge from his wretched term -- but stopped when the crowd booed? Now he's attacking DeSantis for not opening the state early enough.
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 6 March 2023 17:02 (one year ago) link
I agree that there are no principles behind it, but principles and strategy are two different things. He clearly doesn't have any strong beliefs or moral center, but he is running an actual campaign and trying to win.
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Monday, 6 March 2023 17:02 (one year ago) link
giving people what they want aka populism is a powerful political art, particularly when contrasted with politicians who are more concerned with giving corporations what they want
― lag∞n, Monday, 6 March 2023 17:05 (one year ago) link
or at least telling people what they want to hear, the actual giving is a little trickier
― lag∞n, Monday, 6 March 2023 17:07 (one year ago) link
and doesn’t matter, since his base don’t care or find excuses for his total failure to deliver on the wall, health care, infrastructure, etc etc etc
― assert (matttkkkk), Monday, 6 March 2023 21:55 (one year ago) link
he seemed so sad when he got booed for the vaccine, he was so proud of it initially I think he was convinced that he had actually done the research himself
― papal hotwife (milo z), Monday, 6 March 2023 21:59 (one year ago) link
lol yeah it was kinda like a snake oil salesman who stumbled on a snake oil that actually worked.
gotta admit, after about two years of not being worried about trump winning in 2024, i am now a little worried about trump winning in 2024.
― ꙮ (map), Monday, 6 March 2023 22:42 (one year ago) link
after getting a long hard look at DeSantis yeah I think he is probably gonna be the nominee again
― frogbs, Monday, 6 March 2023 22:53 (one year ago) link
I'm less worried about Trump winning than DeSantis, but Ye Olde Fossil will beat Trump in November. Trump ain't wooing back voters he lost in those '20 swing states.
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 6 March 2023 22:57 (one year ago) link
will be interesting to see just how senile they can both get
― lag∞n, Monday, 6 March 2023 22:59 (one year ago) link
Poll time?
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 6 March 2023 23:04 (one year ago) link
but Ye Olde Fossil will beat Trump in November
if things stay the same. there's a decent possibility biden has some sort of health scare in the next 18 months. i don't think that would increase trump's vote, but it might suppress biden's. enthusiasm for harris in the 2020 primaries was even less than it was for biden
― z_tbd, Monday, 6 March 2023 23:09 (one year ago) link
Yes he did pic.twitter.com/neN3aV4tii— Maggie Haberman (@maggieNYT) March 6, 2023
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 6 March 2023 23:37 (one year ago) link
bird flu is gonna take out Mar-a-Lago
― hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Monday, 6 March 2023 23:47 (one year ago) link
Trump stares up into the sun as he is wont to do, seagull flies by and shits in his mouth, he dies one week later
― papal hotwife (milo z), Tuesday, 7 March 2023 00:02 (one year ago) link
it's funny that he is still posting on truth social instead of twitter
― treeship., Tuesday, 7 March 2023 03:17 (one year ago) link
truth social is more stable
― frogbs, Tuesday, 7 March 2023 03:19 (one year ago) link
Maddow talking about new GA law for firing/discipling prosecutors (pending gov sig) was good for that “i’d like to to see ol Trump wriggle outta THIS one” vibe i’ve been missing.
― liberal with a capital LIE (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 7 March 2023 14:16 (one year ago) link
...up to ten new “Freedom Cities,” built from the ground up on federal land.
Some people are saying we should build them from the sky down, but I say no, from the ground up is the way. It's better.
― fetter, Tuesday, 7 March 2023 14:43 (one year ago) link
it how our ancestors did it
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 7 March 2023 14:51 (one year ago) link
Fox News host Tucker Carlson said in a text message after the 2020 election that he "passionately hated" Donald Trump, according to new court filings.Mr Carlson's message to a colleague in January 2021 emerged as part of a defamation lawsuit by Dominion Voting Systems against Fox News.The electronic voting firm accuses the network of promoting baseless claims of vote-rigging in the election.Fox News denies defamation and says on-air comments were taken out of context.The latest filings in the case suggest Mr Carlson expressed his dislike of the outgoing US president two days before Trump supporters stormed the US Capitol to derail lawmakers from certifying Joe Biden's election win."We are very, very close to being able to ignore Trump most nights," he wrote in a text sent on 4 January 2021. "I truly can't wait.""I hate him passionately," he added.Mr Carlson, the top-rated host on the conservative network, also appeared to denigrate the Trump presidency in these private messages, despite lauding his achievements on air.
― giant bat fucker (gyac), Wednesday, 8 March 2023 15:40 (one year ago) link
tucker is a true sicko
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 8 March 2023 15:42 (one year ago) link
https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/71E4b1ldo+L._SX425_.jpg
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Wednesday, 8 March 2023 15:43 (one year ago) link
it's funny how there was that whole thing about fox news knowingly lying to their own viewers and how everyone knew it from the top to the bottom in the organization, but yet, none of their viewers cared. fox continues to dominate the ratings as if nothing happened. and i don't think any advertisers left, either (?)
― z_tbd, Wednesday, 8 March 2023 15:49 (one year ago) link
maybe it's because the viewers just don't know about it?
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/03/business/media/fox-dominion-conservative-media.html
On 26 of the most popular conservative television news networks, radio shows, podcasts and websites, only four — National Review, Townhall, The Federalist and Breitbart News — have mentioned the private messages from Fox News hosts that disparaged election fraud claims since Feb. 16, when the first batch of court filings were released publicly, according to a review by The New York Times.The majority — 18 in all, including Fox News itself — did not cover the lawsuit at all with their own staff. (Some of those 18 published wire stories originally written by The Associated Press or other services.)Four outlets mentioned the lawsuit in some way, but did not mention the comments from Fox News hosts. One of those, The Gateway Pundit, published three articles that included additional unfounded allegations about Dominion, including a suggestion that security vulnerabilities at one election site using Dominion machines could have led to some fraud, despite no evidence that votes were mismanaged.
The majority — 18 in all, including Fox News itself — did not cover the lawsuit at all with their own staff. (Some of those 18 published wire stories originally written by The Associated Press or other services.)
Four outlets mentioned the lawsuit in some way, but did not mention the comments from Fox News hosts. One of those, The Gateway Pundit, published three articles that included additional unfounded allegations about Dominion, including a suggestion that security vulnerabilities at one election site using Dominion machines could have led to some fraud, despite no evidence that votes were mismanaged.
― z_tbd, Wednesday, 8 March 2023 15:51 (one year ago) link
even if they did would they believe it?
― his cartoon heart expands, then he relaxes by smoking crack (stevie), Wednesday, 8 March 2023 15:52 (one year ago) link
yeah, probably not! it's tough down there in the hole, stacking mud, waiting for tucker to tell you what is wrong
― z_tbd, Wednesday, 8 March 2023 15:53 (one year ago) link
Howard Kurtz was quoted on his show as saying he'd love to talk about it but essentially had been told by management that he couldn't, likely for obvious reasons but also because they were the subject of said litigation and it wouldn't help their side much. Which is interesting to me because given Tucker's current on-air screeds, kinda seems like Dominion's team is probably thinking "Ah, thanks for the additional evidence, very helpful."
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 8 March 2023 15:55 (one year ago) link
i don't think any advertisers left, either (?)
― z_tbd, Wednesday, March 8, 2023 10:49 AM (six minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
tbf all the advertisers who would care left a long time ago, the pillow guy is their biggest spender
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 8 March 2023 15:58 (one year ago) link
i periodically ask this, but is there a good source for tracking advertiser spending? the scenario that always comes up, year after year, is when someone like rush limbaugh says something even more horrible than normal, and then there's news that advertisers are dropping him. and i wonder...for how long? do the same advertisers come back? and who fills the void while they're gone?
and what i'm driving at, i guess, is if it's possible to come up with a "boycott these shitty companies that are even worse than the normal companies" list that is even close to comprehensive.
i guess either a lot of it is proprietary or something, and/or, like most financial stuff, the advertiser's ownership structures are so fucking complicated that it's tough to make the connections between the entities spending the ad money and the name brand crap we actually recognize?
― z_tbd, Wednesday, 8 March 2023 16:06 (one year ago) link
the safest assumption is that every single company is horrible and to try to buy as little as possible, i know. but it would be nice to have a giant printed list to throw darts at and to clean out muddy cleats
― z_tbd, Wednesday, 8 March 2023 16:08 (one year ago) link
is anyone actually surprised tucker carlson personally hates trump? anyone who has had to deal with trump personally, especially during the presidential years, seems to feel this way. this is why so many people left his administration even though they shared his egregious politics.
― treeship., Wednesday, 8 March 2023 16:33 (one year ago) link
I assumed Trump had better relations with media personalities than with underlings, but apparently he alienates everyone he meets
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Wednesday, 8 March 2023 16:35 (one year ago) link
and it's everyone else's fault, I bet
― StanM, Wednesday, 8 March 2023 16:37 (one year ago) link
Does Donald J. Trump still have your support? YES or NO? 👇 pic.twitter.com/I68fAtjSuw— shaneyyricch (@shaneyyricch) March 8, 2023
― giant bat fucker (gyac), Wednesday, 8 March 2023 16:39 (one year ago) link
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2021/03/19/lens/19xp-waxfigure-photo/19xp-waxfigure-photo-mediumSquareAt3X.jpg
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 8 March 2023 16:43 (one year ago) link
I thought Diane Arbus died years ago but clearly she's still out there, shooting at conservative events.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 8 March 2023 16:48 (one year ago) link
i periodically ask this, but is there a good source for tracking advertiser spending?
― z_tbd, Wednesday, March 8, 2023 11:06 AM (forty minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
im sure you could find this info if you wanted its def tracked by various industry entities and their are activists that put together lists who feel like have been pretty successful in the case of fox news at least there arent a ton of blue chip advertisers on there
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 8 March 2023 16:49 (one year ago) link
ok i googled it, first result this this is old but https://adage.com/article/media/beyond-mypillow-other-biggest-brand-advertisers-fox-news-revealed/2354321
The biggest advertisers on Fox News by TV ad impressions, from Jan. 1 through July 29, 2021, per iSpot:1. Fox News (8.5 million)2. Balance of Nature (4.6 million)3. Liberty Mutual (3.9 million)4. Fox Nation (3.8 million)5. NewDay USA (3.7 million)6. MyPillow (2.3 million)7. Relief Factor (2.2 million)8. USAA (2.0 million)9. Indeed (1.8 million)10. Nutrisystem (1.6 million)11. Fox (1.3 million)12. Progressive (1.3 million)13. Safelite Auto Glass (1.3 million)14. Applebee’s (1.0 million)15. ADT (1.0 million)
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 8 March 2023 16:51 (one year ago) link
I have no clue who shaneyyricch is. Every time I see one of these tweets I have to research "okay, who's this fucking doorknob now..."
― Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 8 March 2023 16:53 (one year ago) link
14. Applebee’s (1.0 million)
No more appletinis for me
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 8 March 2023 16:53 (one year ago) link
bunch of orgs going after the advertisers none of which date their lists is it so hard to throw a date on there folks
https://dropfox.com/advertisers/ (© Media Matters for America 2021)
https://actionnetwork.org/letters/tell-these-advertisers-to-stop-funding-fox-news-now
http://foxnewsboycott.com/fox-news-sponsors/fox-sponsors-a-l/ (comments from 2011 lol)
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 8 March 2023 16:58 (one year ago) link
thanking u lag00n
― z_tbd, Wednesday, 8 March 2023 17:11 (one year ago) link
but of course
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 8 March 2023 17:12 (one year ago) link
now - let's get out there and take down fox news with our purchasing decisions!!
*buys a local stick*
― z_tbd, Wednesday, 8 March 2023 17:14 (one year ago) link
im skeptical of the efficacy of ethical shopping etc but it is pretty funny that fox has to pander to the pillow man
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 8 March 2023 17:17 (one year ago) link
they should be out there wining and dining with the big boys
so Fox News has to buy ads from Fox News? Is that how it works?
― Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 8 March 2023 17:52 (one year ago) link
In house promos, baby.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 8 March 2023 17:55 (one year ago) link
We should boycott Fox News until they stop advertising on Fox News
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Wednesday, 8 March 2023 18:24 (one year ago) link
done!
― Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 8 March 2023 18:40 (one year ago) link
If Joe Tacopina is your lawyer, you'll probably get off, but you did that shit and everybody knows it.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 9 March 2023 18:14 (one year ago) link
yeah this is something that really others me about conservatives. I get that they don't care about hypocrisy, their entire political philosophy is "we get to make the rules and you don't", but like...even when they find out the people they listen to 24/7 are straight up bullshitting them, they just don't care. will Tucker saying he "hated Trump passionately" affect his viewership at all?? not a chance. will the fact that they've been so provably wrong about everything time and time again mean a thing? no way. and we still have to have "good-spirited debates" with these folks? give me a break
― frogbs, Thursday, 9 March 2023 18:37 (one year ago) link
even when they find out the people they listen to 24/7 are straight up bullshitting them, they just don't care
i regret that i spent years believing that if they were convincingly shown that they were being lied to, it would make any difference at all on their actions. it doesn't. "debating" or arguing things with people i knew that i cared about, randos at a bar, the comment section of watts up with that, people in the family, everything. such a complete waste of time and a terrible headspace to be in.
― z_tbd, Thursday, 9 March 2023 18:40 (one year ago) link
― Camaraderie at Arms Length, Thursday, 9 March 2023 19:14 (one year ago) link
Joe Tacopina is such a great name for a mob lawyer. Joey Tacos.
― Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Thursday, 9 March 2023 19:18 (one year ago) link
yup I get into arguments with a family member about this dumb shit and I always try to stop myself because there is just no winning. recently he's onto this idea that the vaccine is causing a lot of young healthy people to suddenly die, that it's causing all these crazy heart problems and clotting issues and it's all just going completely unreported. and his evidence is a very long documentary hosted on some crazy rightwing site. I don't watch it but if you look it up you can see all the ways it's wrong. like obviously wrong.
for example their 'evidence' involves video footage of events that were taken in 2018 or 2019, well before the vaccine, sometimes even before Covid itself. and you can prove it too. here's the footage. here's where that footage is from. here's the date on it. OBVIOUSLY THE FILMMAKERS KNEW THIS and included it anyway because they think you're too stupid to look it up. one would think that would be the end of it. oh, but it's not. instead its like "well you're just nitpicking" or "you didn't address the other points, if even a fraction is true this is a big deal", or worst of all "I suspect maybe they intended to put that in there" for whatever reason. THAT is the sort of worldview that I think is going to make shit much worse than it has to be. How many people have died of Covid thanks to this bullshit???
― frogbs, Thursday, 9 March 2023 19:22 (one year ago) link
I am always flabbergasted by this covid denial shit and yet we're at the point where I just watched a congressional hearing where Jim Jordan and Matt Taibbi were telling me that the republic is in danger because someone at the NHO wrote an email about countering an RFK Jr. anti-vax tweet.
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Thursday, 9 March 2023 19:29 (one year ago) link
I know this won't convince anyone, but I'd point out that over 72% of the entire global population has taken covid vaccines, so if it were killing lots of people it would be very obvious to everyone.
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Thursday, 9 March 2023 19:31 (one year ago) link
wish more GOP politicians had died of COVID
― hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Thursday, 9 March 2023 19:34 (one year ago) link
lol camaraderie
― z_tbd, Thursday, 9 March 2023 19:35 (one year ago) link
the argument is that it is but it's not actually reported that way. like "oh there's a huge uptick in MY-OH-CAR-DYE-TIS and it's because of the vaccine". which is fucking maddening because the uptick is due to Covid itself!! either way "they" are burying the story, "they" are taking orders, "they" are getting paid off, blah blah blah. it's all in plain view! you see that dude's heart stop on Monday Night Football? yep. that was the vaccine too.
― frogbs, Thursday, 9 March 2023 19:36 (one year ago) link
― hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Thursday, March 9, 2023 1:34 PM (two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
idk if anyone's studied this but it has been shown that Republican voters are dying of COVID at a significantly higher rate than Dems, which might have made a difference these midterms
― frogbs, Thursday, 9 March 2023 19:38 (one year ago) link
and certainly in 2020
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 9 March 2023 19:39 (one year ago) link
yes, but the point is that the vaccine has been taken by so many people that if it posed a serious health risk it wouldn't be something the media could hide because we'd all know lots of people dropping dead because of it
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Thursday, 9 March 2023 19:41 (one year ago) link
well sure if those people hadn't been replaced by tunnel kids with plastic surgery
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Thursday, 9 March 2023 19:43 (one year ago) link
no, you're 100% otm Moodles, which is why watching people that once seemed reasonable say "there just seems to be something about this vaccine" got infuriating to the point where I quit reading all of the rhetoric altogether.
― hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Thursday, 9 March 2023 19:45 (one year ago) link
the anti vaxxers have won this shit is so mainstream now theres gonna be terrible effects from it for years to come just hope we dont have another pandemic
― lag∞n, Thursday, 9 March 2023 19:49 (one year ago) link
the next one will be the last one
― hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Thursday, 9 March 2023 19:50 (one year ago) link
these people are also bad with numbers though. like "surely this would happen to someone I know" is not really something that goes through their head. they dont know how "the media" actually works because they don't watch real news. same as the whole thing about how undocumented folks are getting 100k/year in government assistance. no I don't know any personally but everyone knows they're all over the place. they're with the AR-15s that are saving lives on a daily basis
― frogbs, Thursday, 9 March 2023 19:53 (one year ago) link
New: Prosecutors Signal Criminal Charges for Trump Are Likely https://t.co/O5uuprV1d4— Jonah Bromwich (@Jonesieman) March 9, 2023
The Manhattan district attorney’s office recently signaled to Donald J. Trump’s lawyers that he could face criminal charges for his role in the payment of hush money to a porn star, the strongest indication yet that prosecutors are nearing an indictment of the former president, according to four people with knowledge of the matter.The prosecutors offered Mr. Trump the chance to testify next week before the grand jury that has been hearing evidence in the potential case, the people said. Such offers almost always indicate an indictment is close; it would be unusual for the district attorney, Alvin L. Bragg, to notify a potential defendant without ultimately seeking charges against him.In New York, potential defendants have the right to answer questions in the grand jury before they are indicted, but they rarely testify, and Mr. Trump is likely to decline the offer. His lawyers could also meet privately with the prosecutors in hopes of fending off criminal charges.Any case would mark the first indictment of a former American president, and could upend the 2024 presidential race. It would also elevate Mr. Bragg to the national stage, though not without risk.
The prosecutors offered Mr. Trump the chance to testify next week before the grand jury that has been hearing evidence in the potential case, the people said. Such offers almost always indicate an indictment is close; it would be unusual for the district attorney, Alvin L. Bragg, to notify a potential defendant without ultimately seeking charges against him.
In New York, potential defendants have the right to answer questions in the grand jury before they are indicted, but they rarely testify, and Mr. Trump is likely to decline the offer. His lawyers could also meet privately with the prosecutors in hopes of fending off criminal charges.
Any case would mark the first indictment of a former American president, and could upend the 2024 presidential race. It would also elevate Mr. Bragg to the national stage, though not without risk.
― z_tbd, Thursday, 9 March 2023 23:17 (one year ago) link
sigh
In New York, falsifying business records can amount to a crime, albeit a misdemeanor. To elevate the crime to a felony charge, Mr. Bragg’s prosecutors must show that Mr. Trump’s “intent to defraud” included an intent to commit or conceal a second crime.In this case, that second crime could be a violation of New York State election law. While hush money is not inherently illegal, the prosecutors could argue that the $130,000 payout effectively became an improper donation to Mr. Trump’s campaign, under the theory that because the money silenced Ms. Daniels, it benefited his candidacy.Combining the criminal charge with a violation of state election law would be a novel legal theory for any criminal case, let alone one against the former president, raising the possibility that a judge or appellate court could throw it out or reduce the felony charge to a misdemeanor.
In this case, that second crime could be a violation of New York State election law. While hush money is not inherently illegal, the prosecutors could argue that the $130,000 payout effectively became an improper donation to Mr. Trump’s campaign, under the theory that because the money silenced Ms. Daniels, it benefited his candidacy.
Combining the criminal charge with a violation of state election law would be a novel legal theory for any criminal case, let alone one against the former president, raising the possibility that a judge or appellate court could throw it out or reduce the felony charge to a misdemeanor.
― z_tbd, Thursday, 9 March 2023 23:19 (one year ago) link
"Develop flying cars" 😆 pic.twitter.com/5P7Ly0GltV— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) March 9, 2023
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 9 March 2023 23:34 (one year ago) link
cursed pic.twitter.com/glqAlbh0lj— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) March 13, 2023
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 13 March 2023 18:45 (one year ago) link
Some real "Sending Our Love Down the Well" energy
― hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Monday, 13 March 2023 20:45 (one year ago) link
8. USAA (2.0 million)
this is a side point, but what is the deal with USAA? they do insane amounts of advertising, so much on NFL games which is some of the most expensive ad slots that exist...all to market and insurance company who can't sell to anyone who didn't serve in the military? always seemed off to me
heck even Rob Gronkowski can't get insurance through them
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 13 March 2023 20:53 (one year ago) link
USAA rules, we love them.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 13 March 2023 20:54 (one year ago) link
were you in the military? or are there ways around it?
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 13 March 2023 21:01 (one year ago) link
feels like Cartmanland kinda
― hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Monday, 13 March 2023 21:13 (one year ago) link
My dad was in the Air Force in the early '70s. He must have become a USAA member at some point, because USAA members can pass membership to their kids afaict in perpetuity. I have no other connections to the military, but my kids should be able to use USAA, too.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 13 March 2023 21:26 (one year ago) link
It took months and months but America finallly found someone worse than Morgan Wallen to top the singles charts
― عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.), Monday, 13 March 2023 23:51 (one year ago) link
definitely verbatim conversation quotes:
Trump contended that DeSantis pleaded with him for an endorsement during his first run for governor, when polls showed him trailing his primary challenger, then-Florida agricultural commissioner Adam Putnam.“I said ‘You are so dead right now you are not going, no endorsement is going to save you. George Washington won’t save you.’ He said, ‘I’m telling you, if you endorse me, I have a chance,’” Trump said.
“I said ‘You are so dead right now you are not going, no endorsement is going to save you. George Washington won’t save you.’ He said, ‘I’m telling you, if you endorse me, I have a chance,’” Trump said.
― it's a new day in the international landscape (z_tbd), Monday, 13 March 2023 23:58 (one year ago) link
he said, sir,
Tears in his eyes
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 14 March 2023 00:08 (one year ago) link
but then, george washington unexpectedly saved ron desantis
― it's a new day in the international landscape (z_tbd), Tuesday, 14 March 2023 00:10 (one year ago) link
george washington said, sir,
― it's a new day in the international landscape (z_tbd), Tuesday, 14 March 2023 00:11 (one year ago) link
he really is at heart a man of many bits
"Does anybody in here not like their children" -- Trump in Davenport, Iowa pic.twitter.com/zk3PJRincU— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) March 13, 2023
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 14 March 2023 00:20 (one year ago) link
"Besides me, I mean ..."
― nickn, Tuesday, 14 March 2023 03:48 (one year ago) link
someone else is to blame, part 258633784: Pence caused Jan. 6th. : https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/mar/13/trump-pence-january-6-violence
― StanM, Tuesday, 14 March 2023 07:23 (one year ago) link
Pence tried to kill HIMSELF? damn now that is a twist
― frogbs, Tuesday, 14 March 2023 13:16 (one year ago) link
"Pence, a very strange man, kind of depressed. Maybe he just likes God so much he wants to go meet him."
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Tuesday, 14 March 2023 13:44 (one year ago) link
you know what I just won?
THE WET T-SHIRT CONTEST, JESUS LOVERS
― hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 14 March 2023 13:54 (one year ago) link
“We are learning that the Manhattan DA office has asked for a meeting with law enforcement ahead of a potential Trump indictment. The meeting is to discuss logistics for some time next week which would mean they are anticipating an indictment next week” pic.twitter.com/IkbM46Naoe— Acyn (@Acyn) March 17, 2023
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 17 March 2023 21:25 (one year ago) link
but this is meaningless too, right? he'll just go "nah", not show up for anything, and nothing will happen because law enforcement chuds don't want to look "political"
― frogbs, Friday, 17 March 2023 21:26 (one year ago) link
Kraken 2: Release the Crappin'
― Minivan Morrison (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 17 March 2023 21:29 (one year ago) link
I mean, I don't know, the story says he'll need to be fingerprinted and processed like anyone else. I suppose he could blow it off, but I can't imagine the state being cool with him doing that.
In related wheels-of-justice news:
THREAD: What should we make of the Chief Judge's ruling that DOJ prosecutors have met the threshold for the crime-fraud exception for Trump attorney Evan Corcoran?— Renato Mariotti (@renato_mariotti) March 17, 2023
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 17 March 2023 21:30 (one year ago) link
The stormy is coming...
― BrianB, Friday, 17 March 2023 21:32 (one year ago) link
I mean nothing came of it when this dude stole classified documents, extorted the president of Ukraine, and tried to overthrow the government, I can't imagine this being anything but a very minor convenience
― frogbs, Friday, 17 March 2023 21:36 (one year ago) link
he was impeached for the Ukraine thing!
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 17 March 2023 21:45 (one year ago) link
yeah he got to spend 2 weeks chilling in the White House fundraising and crying witch hunt while everyone else in Congress had to work 12 hour days pretending there was actually a sliver of a chance he'd get removed from office
― frogbs, Friday, 17 March 2023 21:48 (one year ago) link
the sepublican senators showed tremendous integrity and courage during that second impeachment
― it's a new day in the international landscape (z_tbd), Friday, 17 March 2023 21:56 (one year ago) link
sepublican
― it's a new day in the international landscape (z_tbd), Friday, 17 March 2023 21:57 (one year ago) link
Maybe not coincidence this is the 30 year anniversary of Branch Davidian siege near Waco. https://t.co/HfSz2X8REG— Patrick W. Watson (@PatrickW) March 17, 2023
Messiah complex? ✔️
Likes underage girls? ✔️
Pro-gun? ✔️
Doesn't play guitar, but Ivanka does ✔️
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 18 March 2023 02:47 (one year ago) link
I mean nothing came of it when this dude stole classified documents
Isn't this Corcoran thing directly about the documents?
― dicbo=v2-ubswizzb&hrt (stevie), Saturday, 18 March 2023 11:40 (one year ago) link
Yeah. Classified docs stuff still very much in play. There's a special prosecutor who is still actively special prosecuting!
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 18 March 2023 13:19 (one year ago) link
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FrgVz9nXgAImVTW?format=jpg&name=large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FrgV0PbXwAEdBAv?format=jpg&name=large
― lag∞n, Saturday, 18 March 2023 13:28 (one year ago) link
he seems fine
― lag∞n, Saturday, 18 March 2023 13:29 (one year ago) link
His rants scan like mistranslated North Korean propaganda.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 18 March 2023 13:32 (one year ago) link
Or maybe the opening scroll from a cheap straight to VHS post-apocalyptic movie.
Wait, "former" president?
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 18 March 2023 13:37 (one year ago) link
Anarchists have stollen? Lucky anarchists.
https://www.daringgourmet.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/Stollen-2-square-edited.jpg
― Maggot Bairn (Tom D.), Saturday, 18 March 2023 13:47 (one year ago) link
Ok reading those truth social posts maybe something is gonna happen
― frogbs, Saturday, 18 March 2023 14:32 (one year ago) link
Not if we take our nation back!
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 18 March 2023 14:50 (one year ago) link
its kinda funny and pretty dicey that this is the thing hes going to get tried for cause paying someone to shut up isnt against the law its done all the time instead theyre making the argument that paying her was for the benefit of his campaign and therefor violated campaign laws which is not a particularly common way of thinking about things, youd think if you were going to arrest the ex pres youd want to do it for something rock solid
― lag∞n, Saturday, 18 March 2023 14:57 (one year ago) link
Most likely Trump's attorneys were told by the Manhattan DA's office that an indictment would likely issue early next week and that he would need to surrender on Tuesday and appear in court.That would not be an "arrest" but Trump is trying to dramatize this for his supporters. https://t.co/DN4bYLhkCM— Renato Mariotti (@renato_mariotti) March 18, 2023
Anyway, this may just be the tip of the iceberg. There's little doubt he's committed numerous crimes in numerous ways in numerous states. That's never really been in question. The issue has been prosecution, which, go figure, only really ramped up once he was out of office. Though not least because several of his crimes (Georgia, January 6, classified docs) were committed on the way out.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 18 March 2023 15:01 (one year ago) link
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 18 March 2023 bookmarkflaglink
It's actually purely American in its levels of delusion about the best country in the world. With a bunch of racism.
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 18 March 2023 15:03 (one year ago) link
its kinda funny and pretty dicey that this is the thing hes going to get tried for cause paying someone to shut up isnt against the law its done all the time instead theyre making the argument that paying her was for the benefit of his campaign and therefor violated campaign laws which is not a particularly common way of thinking about things, youd think if you were going to arrest the ex pres youd want to do it for something rock solid― lag∞n, Saturday, March 18, 2023 10:57 AM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
― lag∞n, Saturday, March 18, 2023 10:57 AM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
Cohen’s already gone to jail for this, so maybe that sets a precedent. But I agree—this seems dicier than the Georgia election fraud case but I am no lawyer.
― treeship., Saturday, 18 March 2023 17:04 (one year ago) link
They just want to get him in court and talking so he'll confess to 7 other things during one of his rants
― hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Saturday, 18 March 2023 17:17 (one year ago) link
I think that's probably right, and it's the area where in the past he might have been savvier, but I think he'll say all kinds of nonsense under oath now
― J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Saturday, 18 March 2023 17:24 (one year ago) link
He'll probably just keep pleading the fifth, which is one reason this stuff keeps getting dragged out. But the ongoing Stormy Daniels thing specifically seems to have been drawn out due to prosecutorial foot dragging; it was always weird that Cohen did time for a crime committed at the behest of the asshole that did not go to jail, but again, don't underestimate the dampening effect of Trump being president. The second he was out of office all this shit started ramping up. He's been in and will be in court for all sorts of stuff for the foreseeable future, even if he'll never see the inside of a jail cell, though he's such a POS there is ample potential for him to finally cross some red line and get himself in even more serious legal jeopardy. He's a perma-perp. He can't help it.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 18 March 2023 17:31 (one year ago) link
That Trump tweet (or whatever they're called on Truth Social) above very reminiscent of Wire's "Reuters": "This is your correspondent, running out of tape, gunfire's increasing, looting, burning, rape."
― clemenza, Saturday, 18 March 2023 17:35 (one year ago) link
A good minithread from someone who keeps regular tabs on this stuff
For those asking, so far there's scattered anger but no concrete plan on Trump forums for his potential arrest on Tuesday.So far it's:1—Users urging DeSantis not to be like "Judas Pence" and hand him over2—Random, rote calls for Civil War if it happensI'll keep you updated.— Ben Collins (@oneunderscore__) March 18, 2023
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 18 March 2023 17:37 (one year ago) link
Judas Pence was more into leather
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 18 March 2023 17:39 (one year ago) link
Hopefully this ugly link works ...
https://starwarsintrocreator.kassellabs.io/?gclid=Cj0KCQjwwtWgBhDhARIsAEMcxeC6PoXcXx-B0xxVmos44bIkuAcxm6q9f5aZpv6Tqk0vbiTyBGAxS6UaArVqEALw_wcB#!/ENQpnoy6A-BgHK0zZBk1
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 18 March 2023 17:43 (one year ago) link
what do you think the ?gclid=Cj0KCQjwwtWgBhDhARIsAEMcxeC6PoXcXx-B0xxVmos44bIkuAcxm6q9f5aZpv6Tqk0vbiTyBGAxS6UaArVqEALw_wcB#!/ENQpnoy6A-BgHK0zZBk1 bit means
― least said, sergio mendes (sic), Saturday, 18 March 2023 17:55 (one year ago) link
I literally have no idea, why don't you tell me? I was just trying to find a way to embed my generated video.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 18 March 2023 18:07 (one year ago) link
My new band concept is heavy metal covers of songs about coins ("Penny Lane," "Three Coins in a Fountain," "Here's a Quarter, Call Someone Who Cares," "Brother, Can you Spare a Dime?,"and selections from the Threepenny Opera).
I am calling it Judas Pence
― carne asana (Ye Mad Puffin), Saturday, 18 March 2023 18:08 (one year ago) link
Google Click ID (GCLID) is a parameter passed in the URL with ad clicks, to identify the campaign and other attributes of the click associated with the ad for ad tracking and campaign attribution. In Google Ads, this is enabled by turning on the auto-tagging setting. It’s required for Google Ads website conversion tracking and also used to link data between Google Ads and Google Analytics. It can also be used in conjunction with features like offline conversion tracking.
― rob, Saturday, 18 March 2023 18:13 (one year ago) link
Huh. What does that mean? That the link generates ad revenue?
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 18 March 2023 18:16 (one year ago) link
Sad Wings of Desantisy
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Saturday, 18 March 2023 18:25 (one year ago) link
I suspect his supporters know the arrest is the point: the final act of martyrdom. It will be a glorious day for'em.
― the very juice and sperm of kindness. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 18 March 2023 18:37 (one year ago) link
It means you can just delete everything from the ? onwardshttps://starwarsintrocreator.kassellabs.io/
― groovypanda, Saturday, 18 March 2023 18:50 (one year ago) link
if *we* can barely figure out what he's being prosecuted for in nyc, imagine how it will seem to, like, normal people. which will make his claims that this is a political prosecution resonate.
― Thus Sang Freud, Saturday, 18 March 2023 18:54 (one year ago) link
Perhaps it will be easier to figure out when there's an actual indictment.
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Saturday, 18 March 2023 18:56 (one year ago) link
what if it just says "cheeto man bad" tho then what
― lag∞n, Saturday, 18 March 2023 19:02 (one year ago) link
It means you can just delete everything from the ? onwards
Yeah, but that would only get someone to the site's homepage with the template, not the thing I generated. When I click on the messy link I pasted it takes me to the thing I generated.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 18 March 2023 19:03 (one year ago) link
He's been/being prosecuted for lots of things in NY, iirc, but this one seems pretty simple (if relatively minor, compared to classified docs and GA): using campaign funds to pay out hush money. Right?
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 18 March 2023 19:06 (one year ago) link
I mean who gives a fuck what Trump supporters or libertarians et al think, they would think the same thing if he was arrested eating a child on TV. You don't base these moves on whether people will like them.
― hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Saturday, 18 March 2023 19:06 (one year ago) link
Republicans don't mind doing things that enrage 200 million people daily.
― hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Saturday, 18 March 2023 19:13 (one year ago) link
yeah, all, move to Florida, join Neanderthal and me for Negronis
― the very juice and sperm of kindness. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 18 March 2023 19:14 (one year ago) link
Probably next on DeSantis's chopping block.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 18 March 2023 19:16 (one year ago) link
Wokegronis
― carne asana (Ye Mad Puffin), Saturday, 18 March 2023 19:17 (one year ago) link
D'oh, too late
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Saturday, 18 March 2023 19:18 (one year ago) link
i agree that maga idiots will never change their minds, it doesn't matter. however, it's kind of infuriating that he could tell everyone he was going to try to steal the election, for months, lose the election and immediately try to steal it in several different states, openly, blatantly, with a loudhorn, using a stupidass legal theory that everyone knew was complete bullshit from the beginning, told everyone to come to march on the capitol and steal it for him, and was perfectly fine with letting white supremacists lead and organize the violence. and then what he gets indicted for is some hush payment on sleeping with the four thousandth person who wasn't his wife, and something which everyone already knew about before the election, something he's already done many times while everyone looked the other way, and had long since forgotten about since there were so many other things he openly did.
it's cool and whatever but hundreds of thousands of people unnecessarily died because of him, and that was for something that he won't even be prosecuted for, and something for which everyone has already totally forgiven and forgotten. i guess i'm glad if he goes down over some bullshit but it's hard not to feel like everything is just...absurdly upside-down.
i do want to note that i'm so glad michael avenatti already fucked off
― it's a new day in the international landscape (z_tbd), Saturday, 18 March 2023 19:28 (one year ago) link
I think the specific arrest day came from Asshole contacting the prosecutors and receiving “C U Next Tuesday” as a reply
― assert (matttkkkk), Saturday, 18 March 2023 19:38 (one year ago) link
sorry don't mean to derail with navel-gazing weirdness but—
anyone else taking a step back from all of this "he's gonna get arrested!" hype and look at how dystopian it all is? one side wants it, the other side has been committing domestic terrorism and all of the news outlets saw how well the fbi going into mar-a-lago drove up engagement so i get this feeling like it's the "super bowl" of possible political comeuppance. yes, of course he needs to be put away forever but so do most politicians. he's just the loudest asshole. ugh. the whole thing: no. simply no.
(and plus— the whole "reason" being given for the arrest seems like a fucking movie plot it's so cliche. otoh, cool that they're gonna try to get him for misogynistic nonsense. be even cooler if daniels was working the long con this whole time and took one for the team.)
― ''can be prusuaded to show gayness'' (Austin), Saturday, 18 March 2023 19:38 (one year ago) link
(ftr: i hate talking about any of these people. i'm sorry if i come off as flippant, but sheesh. how can anyone have any sort of normal life in this dystopia?)
― ''can be prusuaded to show gayness'' (Austin), Saturday, 18 March 2023 19:41 (one year ago) link
If it's any reassurance, opinions are pretty aggressively divided among those that care about this stuff at all, but I suspect the vast majority of people dgaf about any of this, which is ... maybe not much reassurance.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 18 March 2023 20:05 (one year ago) link
I don't think any minds are getting changed about Der Trumpmeister, in either direction. Everyone is dug in.
― carne asana (Ye Mad Puffin), Saturday, 18 March 2023 20:08 (one year ago) link
well in that case, here's my opinion: i want it to be a "choose your own adventure" and i want the next wave of headlines to hit early tomorrow morning (~4am est) and have them be about how he has skeedattled off to moscow to consult with vlad.
(going for the most venture bros-esque scenario)
― ''can be prusuaded to show gayness'' (Austin), Saturday, 18 March 2023 20:11 (one year ago) link
I want Trump to descend down into the empire of the ants and meet his grisly demise.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 18 March 2023 20:14 (one year ago) link
i expected this movie to be so much better too. i'd have walked out but they locked the doors. wait i smell smoke omigod
― liberal with a capital LIE (Hunt3r), Saturday, 18 March 2023 20:15 (one year ago) link
(reads ahead)
this choose your adventure sucks. everyone dies horribly in all of the outcomes.
― ''can be prusuaded to show gayness'' (Austin), Saturday, 18 March 2023 20:20 (one year ago) link
The reason most people don’t care about the legal hubbub is because most people are savvy enough to understand that the justice system is built to buoy the rich and punish the poor and non-white. it is mostly liberals who actually care about the legal hubbub because the idea of legal consequences for this stuff feeds into their latent patriotism. “you see the system works!”
― Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Saturday, 18 March 2023 21:50 (one year ago) link
Meantime:
They're burning Pepe memes in effigy over on TheDonald. pic.twitter.com/dbsymCGBgO— Ben Collins (@oneunderscore__) March 18, 2023
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 18 March 2023 22:14 (one year ago) link
"Our culture"
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Saturday, 18 March 2023 22:16 (one year ago) link
Children get your culture.
― Think Fast, Mr. Mojo Risin’ (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 18 March 2023 22:19 (one year ago) link
yea I agree with Zach on this the fact that it's the Stormy Daniels thing is pretty lame, like I don't really care about that and I doubt anyone else does either. the only reason why people do is because fuck Trump. fair enough. if you're dumb enough to donate to a dude whose entire campaign was "look at how rich I am" then having that money go to a porn star is probably best case scenario. idk it just bothers me because Trump caught so much shit for things that, lets face it, were kind of trivial, once you get that he's a rich Republican in politics, he's allowed to be corrupt, everyone knows that's how it goes. it shouldn't be overlooked that this guy tried to steal the election in plain sight, which, as far as any soverign nation is concerned, really is a major, unforgivable crime. that's 10000x bigger than some dumb hush money scandal.
― frogbs, Saturday, 18 March 2023 22:38 (one year ago) link
Austin otm
Frogbs also
As Flaubert wrote about the Franco-Prussian War, "whatever else happens, we shall remain stupid."
― carne asana (Ye Mad Puffin), Saturday, 18 March 2023 22:45 (one year ago) link
President Trump will be arrested during Lent—a time of suffering and purification for the followers of Jesus Christ.As Christ was crucified, and then rose again on the 3rd day, so too will @realDonaldTrump.Violence is never the answer. Winning the election is. Vote for Trump!— Joseph D. McBride, Esq. (@McBrideLawNYC) March 18, 2023
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Saturday, 18 March 2023 23:49 (one year ago) link
see you next Tuesday
― assert (matttkkkk), Saturday, 18 March 2023 23:54 (one year ago) link
i *would* like to see donald wriggle his way out of a crucifixion
― mookieproof, Sunday, 19 March 2023 00:09 (one year ago) link
some people get really cranky during lent, could play a role
― it's a new day in the international landscape (z_tbd), Sunday, 19 March 2023 00:09 (one year ago) link
god, i am the least fairly treated, the most forsaken, pontius said sir, you are the most innocent we have ever seen
― it's a new day in the international landscape (z_tbd), Sunday, 19 March 2023 00:12 (one year ago) link
ok, lol
― awaiting the ILX acquihire (PBKR), Sunday, 19 March 2023 01:34 (one year ago) link
Lord, forgive them, for they know not what they do. By which I mean they have dementia and are very very weak, so weak.
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Sunday, 19 March 2023 01:44 (one year ago) link
Apparently (and not surprisingly) there is online chatter in the places one might expect threatening to show up to Mar a Lago armed and ready to defend Trump from extradition (just as there are predictable rumors that Trump is not in fact planning to surrender to authorities if demanded). Would bring up some interesting conflicts: the collision of 2nd amendment stuff, DeSantis more or less curtailing certain forms of protest, stand your ground laws, Secret Service and ex-presidents, state law enforcement vs federal, the torn allegiances of cops between their own local power and broadly fascist national figureheads and movements ...
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 19 March 2023 04:09 (one year ago) link
The Trump jailbreak plots would be incredible. 20 55-year old dudes in Oakleys dual wielding Glocks trying to take down the Manhattan detention center.
― papal hotwife (milo z), Sunday, 19 March 2023 04:23 (one year ago) link
I can imagine a Trump jailbreak scenario where he tunnels through a long shit-strewn sewer and emerges at the end into another, different jail cell.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 19 March 2023 14:05 (one year ago) link
Unfortunately the jailbreak fails because the only location given is “somewhere in this town.”
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Sunday, 19 March 2023 18:04 (one year ago) link
lmao guess it's happening
Steel barricades arriving outside Manhattan Criminal Court @CBSNews pic.twitter.com/aWESUZ01fU— Robert Costa (@costareports) March 20, 2023
― frogbs, Monday, 20 March 2023 15:30 (one year ago) link
pretty funny that hes provoking his followers surround maralago with guns to stop the arrest when really hes just going to be showing up at court in ny
― lag∞n, Monday, 20 March 2023 15:57 (one year ago) link
At this point even if it wasn't happening they would need barricades, because Trump kicked the MAGA hive.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 20 March 2023 16:04 (one year ago) link
One could make an educated guess, though.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 20 March 2023 16:30 (one year ago) link
outmanoeuvring trumps supporters by simply arresting him on Monday
― piedro àlamodevar (wins), Monday, 20 March 2023 17:25 (one year ago) link
^ more plausible than one might think
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Monday, 20 March 2023 17:29 (one year ago) link
arrest him on the tuesday after tuesday, make them stand there yelling incredibly dumb stuff for a week
― it's a new day in the international landscape (z_tbd), Monday, 20 March 2023 17:30 (one year ago) link
would very much be in character for Trump to get the date wrong
― frogbs, Monday, 20 March 2023 17:31 (one year ago) link
not even arrested, he just has to go to court. delay that for 15 tuesdays in a row
― it's a new day in the international landscape (z_tbd), Monday, 20 March 2023 17:31 (one year ago) link
tuesday will almost certainly be wrong. he and his supporters were just guessing at the date, they don't have any special information. his primary motivation was to get out ahead of the news and prepare his followers to produce counter-news on the day that it does happen
― it's a new day in the international landscape (z_tbd), Monday, 20 March 2023 17:34 (one year ago) link
I will gladly arrest you Tuesday for a hamberder today.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 20 March 2023 17:35 (one year ago) link
politico reporting late today or wednesday
https://www.politico.com/news/2023/03/20/law-enforcement-donald-trump-indictment-plan-00087836
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 20 March 2023 18:40 (one year ago) link
i just want them to muss his hair and makeup for the mugshot
“We think this is, no pun intended, a trumped-up political prosecution of the former president,” Wax said.
you just know he got hi-fives from everyone in the group for that. killer wordplay bruh
― hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Monday, 20 March 2023 18:44 (one year ago) link
Gonna be fun to see literally thousands wearing the Trump mug shot T-shirt at the state fair this summer
― عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.), Monday, 20 March 2023 18:53 (one year ago) link
I really wish this arrest was for the Georgia thing and not the hush-money misdemeanor
― Andy the Grasshopper, Monday, 20 March 2023 19:00 (one year ago) link
Same here, but here's hoping the dominoes start falling.
https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/20/politics/georgia-racketeering-conspiracy-trump-willis/index.html
― Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Monday, 20 March 2023 19:19 (one year ago) link
So sad
A quick update: Pro-Trump influencers are trying to organize anti-indictment rallies tonight, one in NYC and one at Mar-a-Lago, mostly on Telegram.Trump fans are mostly telling each other not to go, saying it's a fed trap. This mirrors most pro-Trump protest failures since 1/6.— Ben Collins (@oneunderscore__) March 20, 2023
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 20 March 2023 19:35 (one year ago) link
It's kind of amazing* how easily his fans hand-wave away his crimes. "Yeah, he's probably guilty of all this stuff, but is this really the best they can do? It's going to be some bullshit charge." As if rich and powerful people constantly getting away with all sorts of stuff regular people can't get away is somehow not the root of the fabled "swamp," let alone an example of entitled elitism at least on par with the predilections of oft vilified ivory tower latte sipping liberals.
*not really
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 20 March 2023 19:37 (one year ago) link
i'm going full resistance lib this week for fun, apologies in advance
i think this is otm
one of my longstanding views is that the absence of criminal charges or consequences for trump has validated his behavior and neutralized some of his opposition since, the logic goes, if he was *actually* as bad an actor as his opponents say, he would already be in jail— b-boy bouiebaisse (@jbouie) March 19, 2023
this is a long list of likely forthcoming charges!
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/19/us/politics/trump-investigations.html
georgia one certainly looks like it's coming soon
NEW: As he awaits indictment in Manhattan, Trump is trying to stave off another one — in Georgia, where today his lawyer moved to suppress evidence gathered by a special grand jury. https://t.co/FSMmbSJIQ4— Kyle Cheney (@kyledcheney) March 20, 2023
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 20 March 2023 19:38 (one year ago) link
right, I get that this particular case feels a bit underwhelming compared to some others that have been brewing, but I don't really get the despair over that, it's not like any of those others suddenly go away.
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Monday, 20 March 2023 19:40 (one year ago) link
just need one of them to get a photo of him without makeup on
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 20 March 2023 19:41 (one year ago) link
What is the likelihood of these idiots pulling off a huge demonstration in NYC? There would probably be an equal or greater number of counter protestors.
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Monday, 20 March 2023 19:42 (one year ago) link
Bunch of Proud Boys already had a bad weekend protesting a Drag Queen Story Hour this weekend, can't imagine a Trump honor guard would fare much better
― papal hotwife (milo z), Monday, 20 March 2023 19:44 (one year ago) link
First they would have to overcome their fears and make it to New York, a Big City which is very very dangerous.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 20 March 2023 19:45 (one year ago) link
xp got a link for that? love 2 read PB arrest records
― obsidian crocogolem (sleeve), Monday, 20 March 2023 19:47 (one year ago) link
ha, was just typing this up, New Yorkers are ready to rumble if MAGA shitheads try any bullshit
#HappeningNow "I came here to help, not get the shit beat out of me" - a member of Proud Boys, with visible blood on his face ushered away from Drag Queen Story Hour event in NYC as protesters chant "Fuck the Proud Boys" https://t.co/bXZXQWtfVH pic.twitter.com/ObbuyZXOVo— Oliya Scootercaster 🛴 (@ScooterCasterNY) March 19, 2023
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Monday, 20 March 2023 19:47 (one year ago) link
love it
― obsidian crocogolem (sleeve), Monday, 20 March 2023 19:48 (one year ago) link
And yeah, I kinda think b-boy is OTM, too. When I read defenses from some of the Jan. 6 jagoffs, I get the feeling a lot of them just had no idea what they were doing was illegal. Like, they just fundamentally don't understand how the world works, and part of that is because they view people like Trump as untouchable superheroes.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 20 March 2023 19:48 (one year ago) link
I don't know if there were any arrests but here's one crying about getting punched
― papal hotwife (milo z), Monday, 20 March 2023 19:48 (one year ago) link
oops xp
― papal hotwife (milo z), Monday, 20 March 2023 19:49 (one year ago) link
no I enjoyed reading that twice, really, tyvvm
― obsidian crocogolem (sleeve), Monday, 20 March 2023 19:50 (one year ago) link
I hoped someone smacked him in the face with a stiletto heel
I get the feeling a lot of them just had no idea what they were doing was illegal
or, as with the Proud Boys or the freaks they ran in the midterms, how much normal people hate them - they're convinced there's a true silent majority of support for their fascism
― papal hotwife (milo z), Monday, 20 March 2023 19:50 (one year ago) link
I've come across a couple of interesting essays noting that a downside of deplatforming at least some of these dummies is that their echo chambers become smaller and smaller, and tighter and tighter, and crazier and crazier, until they just end up with a throroughtly distorted view of reality.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 20 March 2023 19:53 (one year ago) link
I don't think that's much of a downside compared to the alternative, tbh
― obsidian crocogolem (sleeve), Monday, 20 March 2023 19:55 (one year ago) link
Yeah, neither do I. Just might explain why these guys can't understand how they can be so bad and so hated.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 20 March 2023 19:56 (one year ago) link
I also think Bouie is right that Trump being actually indicted and arrested matters. I think it weakens him, just like him being impeached twice weakened him. That doesn't mean it kills him off, politically speaking, obviously it doesn't. But the whole "you'll only make him stronger" thing I think is bullshit. Seeing people arrested has an effect, sends a message. And anyway, if he broke the law he oughta be held accountable.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Monday, 20 March 2023 20:00 (one year ago) link
a downside of deplatforming at least some of these dummies is that their echo chambers become smaller and smaller, and tighter and tighter, and crazier and crazier, until they just end up with a throroughtly distorted view of reality
There's a guy across the street from the hotel I'm currently staying in with a series of hand-scrawled signs taped to a tree. I think he's reaching just about as many people as Milo Yiannapolous (sp?)...and I'm fine with that. I don't see that as a "downside" of anything, and the more of these fuckos it happens to, the better. Eventually each one of them will have 10-12 hardcore disciples and they'll yammer at each other in the political equivalent of twin talk and no one else will need to care at all.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Monday, 20 March 2023 20:01 (one year ago) link
these people were better when they were afraid to show their faces
― hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Monday, 20 March 2023 20:02 (one year ago) link
this is 9/11 for HVAC guys in florida https://t.co/BbWF0NvoQC— hasanabi (@hasanthehun) March 20, 2023
― papal hotwife (milo z), Monday, 20 March 2023 20:05 (one year ago) link
when i worked in NYC my office window looked down directly onto the front steps of that court! wish i could be there to see the ultimate fuckface confront the bare minimum of accountability for all the shit he's done
― it's a new day in the international landscape (z_tbd), Monday, 20 March 2023 20:08 (one year ago) link
the thing about these echo chambers is nobody knows what the fuck these people are talking about half the time anymore. it's like how Trump would randomly tweet shit like "Remember sailor!" which I think entrenches them even more since now they get to believe that they're the only ones who follow the "real news"
― frogbs, Monday, 20 March 2023 20:26 (one year ago) link
every now and then some bullshit they're talking about trends on Twitter and I see it: like yesterday they were talking about how John Fetterman had died and been replaced.
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Monday, 20 March 2023 20:28 (one year ago) link
But the whole "you'll only make him stronger" thing I think is bullshit.
yeah it's just the Bond villain thing where they just go "you'll be sorry!" whenever they get foiled, it's so see-through. of course getting arrested isn't going to help him.
― frogbs, Monday, 20 March 2023 20:29 (one year ago) link
It is more publicity for him and raises his star in the Republican primary. But he is no longer electable nationally.
― treeship., Monday, 20 March 2023 20:52 (one year ago) link
interesting to see desantis (pretty succesfully?) try to thread the needle of supporting him and reminding people he's bad
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/20/us/politics/desantis-trump-indictment.html
lol at trump's response too
"when he’s unfairly and illegally attacked by a woman, even classmates that are ‘underage’ (or possibly a man!). I’m sure he will want to fight these misfits just like I do!"
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 20 March 2023 20:55 (one year ago) link
Thus far they're doing a bang-up job of smearing each other. Long may they run.
― dicbo=v2-ubswizzb&hrt (stevie), Monday, 20 March 2023 20:57 (one year ago) link
Folks, the reason Trump said he was going to be arrested is because he knows he won't be arrested. Indicted, charged, arraigned, questioned, subpeonaed, maybe, but it's unlikely
When he is very much NOT arrested, he can claim that the deep state WANTED to arrest him, but backed down in the face of his ballsiness and the patriotism of his MAGA supporters. "See? Those wimps didn't have the guts to arrest Your Favorite President." He gets both the martyrdom points, and the hero points.
On the (very very minimal) chance that he DOES get actually arrested, well, he gets even more martyrdom points.
― carne asana (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 20 March 2023 21:52 (one year ago) link
I dunno, dude is prideful above all else. But he doesn't want this kind of attention. (See also: pleading the fifth 400 times in that other NY case.) His survival instinct lets him know the rare times he should just stfu. He'll crow or complain when it's done and he's back in Florida.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 20 March 2023 22:01 (one year ago) link
Not getting arrested, though, unless he doesn't show up.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 20 March 2023 22:02 (one year ago) link
Agree that he will whine, boast, or most likely both, no matter the outcome.
Anything that he's directed to do he will just... not do.
It's a fantasy to think he'll be cuffed and led off to a cell in an orange jumpsuit or whatever.
― carne asana (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 20 March 2023 22:05 (one year ago) link
I’m at the pro-Trump protest put on by the NY Young Republicans Club. Not a joke, there are more reporters here than Trump supporters.This was supposed to be the big one. pic.twitter.com/NhXyiKoDAC— Ben Collins (@oneunderscore__) March 20, 2023
― lag∞n, Monday, 20 March 2023 22:10 (one year ago) link
Take me back to Four Seasons Total Landscaping.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 20 March 2023 22:11 (one year ago) link
It's astounding to me that he called on his supporters to protest and they're like "nice try FBI, we know a trap when we see it!" like trump somehow secretly didn't want them to protest and was just trolling the deep state by calling for protests. Like they can take away the exact opposite message from what he says and still think he's brilliant for saying it.
― BrianB, Tuesday, 21 March 2023 13:38 (one year ago) link
astounding dumbfounding that is.
― BrianB, Tuesday, 21 March 2023 13:40 (one year ago) link
Never underestimate our talent for stupidity.
― the very juice and sperm of kindness. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 21 March 2023 13:41 (one year ago) link
soooo sounds like this is not happening now? has ol' Donny wriggled his way out of another jam?
― frogbs, Tuesday, 21 March 2023 13:51 (one year ago) link
I mean it's also hilarious because obvs he does want them to protest
― dicbo=v2-ubswizzb&hrt (stevie), Tuesday, 21 March 2023 13:51 (one year ago) link
If nothing comes of this it's clearly because Bragg is down in Guantanamo along with the Biden, the Clintons, Tom Hanks, George Soros and everyone else awaiting execution.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 21 March 2023 14:25 (one year ago) link
xxpost where are you seeing it might not happen? sincerely doubt they're gonna just abruptly yank an indictment (unless there never was one to begin with).
― hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 21 March 2023 14:45 (one year ago) link
some armchair analysis on Twitter, apparently they decided not to reconvene the grand jury which implies they aren't gonna indict him, at least not today
― frogbs, Tuesday, 21 March 2023 14:58 (one year ago) link
― Camaraderie at Arms Length, Tuesday, 21 March 2023 15:02 (one year ago) link
Last I heard the idea was it would either happen yesterday or tomorrow. But of course who knows.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 21 March 2023 15:17 (one year ago) link
NBC News: Several sources familiar with the matter say do not expect developments Tuesday in the Trump grand jury matter. The next scheduled grand jury date is Wednesday. That is the earliest we may learn more as to what comes next. @MSNBC— Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) March 21, 2023
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Tuesday, 21 March 2023 15:25 (one year ago) link
A lot of people fixated on public safety, or the safety of the court, but don't underestimate the possibility of someone trying to pull a Jack Ruby. Which, you know ...
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 21 March 2023 15:26 (one year ago) link
lmao that Trump is now doing the "Michael Cohen is a disbarred lawyer with a lot of clients!" thing, given that A) he was disbarred for trying to keep Trump out of legal trouble and B) his only other clients were Sean Hannity and some other Republican lawmaker who knocked up a young woman
― frogbs, Tuesday, 21 March 2023 15:37 (one year ago) link
xp Addition by subtraction
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 21 March 2023 15:38 (one year ago) link
killer mike going lib for #resistance week, love it
Up watching ya now my guy. https://t.co/3k3lqdw0rM pic.twitter.com/o7ewFrvKo7— Killer Mike (@KillerMike) March 21, 2023
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 21 March 2023 15:39 (one year ago) link
yeeeah I dont think its happening
A grand jury will reconvene on Wednesday to continue to weigh charges against former Pres. Trump in connection with the Manhattan district attorney's hush payment probe.See live updates here: https://t.co/uk9A3Y2pez— ABC News (@ABC) March 21, 2023
― frogbs, Tuesday, 21 March 2023 15:51 (one year ago) link
tbf killer mike is a small business opportunity zone ass cop loving lib 24/7
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 21 March 2023 15:55 (one year ago) link
So Trump was...lying?
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Tuesday, 21 March 2023 15:56 (one year ago) link
So Trump was...lying is dumber than a dumb bag of dumb hammers?
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 21 March 2023 15:58 (one year ago) link
Maybe Trump has gotten so used to talking about himself in the third person that he confused Trump with someone else and was just relaying some internet rumor he read about someone named Trump being arrested. The same thing happens all the time among the Smurfs.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 21 March 2023 16:02 (one year ago) link
(The Smurfs substitute Smurf for subjects, verbs, adjectives and the like, but don't refer to themselves in the third person. - someone on ILX)
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 21 March 2023 16:07 (one year ago) link
it is kinda funny how many people just jumped on this based on what Trump said on Truth Social
― frogbs, Tuesday, 21 March 2023 16:07 (one year ago) link
eh, there's quite a lot of reporting from multiple independent reporters that it's happening.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 21 March 2023 16:14 (one year ago) link
I mean maybe probably perhaps just saying even Matt Gaetz skated on a slamdunk case so I'm just gonna take the "it's gonna go like it always goes but I'm willing to be proven wrong" stance here
― frogbs, Tuesday, 21 March 2023 16:17 (one year ago) link
also, they are not suddenly putting up security barriers for no reason.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 21 March 2023 16:25 (one year ago) link
tbf that could have been prompted by trump attemtping to incite all 50 of his remaining supporters to riot.
but the reporting about the activity of the grand jury seems pretty concrete at this point.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 21 March 2023 16:27 (one year ago) link
obvs these are particular circumstances but normally once a grand jury is convened charges are almost guaranteed
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 21 March 2023 16:38 (one year ago) link
you guys, i know when it's going to happen. i can't say it out loud because i don't think it's allowed, but trust me...let's just say that it's going to be hard to miss
https://i.imgur.com/rB4sSib.png
― it's a new day in the international landscape (z_tbd), Tuesday, 21 March 2023 16:45 (one year ago) link
damn looks like it did happen after all
Fake photos of Donald Trump getting arrested are going viral ‼️😭 pic.twitter.com/OYcltEgtB2— RapTV (@Rap) March 21, 2023
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 21 March 2023 16:50 (one year ago) link
oh it's very much happening
BREAKING: sources close to the situation tell us armed authorities have arrived at the Mar-a-Lago home of former President Donald Trump and are negotiating with Secret Service— WPLN - West Palm Local News (@wapplehouse) March 21, 2023
One source inside the home said Trump is using his 17 year old son Barron as a human shield— WPLN - West Palm Local News (@wapplehouse) March 21, 2023
― frogbs, Tuesday, 21 March 2023 16:52 (one year ago) link
good choice very tall easy to hide behind
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 21 March 2023 16:53 (one year ago) link
xpost Looks like one of those "circle all the differences" puzzles
― Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 21 March 2023 16:54 (one year ago) link
"Go on, Barron, Daddy never loved you anyway."
― the very juice and sperm of kindness. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 21 March 2023 16:56 (one year ago) link
John Barron strikes again!
BREAKING: A bomb threat was called in just as a judge in lower Manhattan was about to start a hearing over a $250 million lawsuit by New York AG Letitia James against Donald Trump https://t.co/1g8v5rzmfC pic.twitter.com/jnktwIhq1a— Bloomberg Politics (@bpolitics) March 21, 2023
― frogbs, Tuesday, 21 March 2023 17:06 (one year ago) link
― at bottom, wrapping my arms around some tripe called "Quest" (breastcrawl), Tuesday, 21 March 2023 17:12 (one year ago) link
As I foretold, the only reason Trump floated the idea of him being arrested is so that he could claim victory when he was very much not arrested.
This just in: I also did not get arrested today. Go me!
Though I guess there's still time. BRB, gonna go do some crimes
― carne asana (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 21 March 2023 17:18 (one year ago) link
for those of you going full #resistance and avoiding work this week, this seems like the guy who will break it if/when it happens https://twitter.com/GrahamKates
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 21 March 2023 17:22 (one year ago) link
and it's not even Follow Friday
― dicbo=v2-ubswizzb&hrt (stevie), Tuesday, 21 March 2023 17:23 (one year ago) link
You're only arrested if you're indicted and don't voluntarily surrender.
It's going to be hard for him to claim victory if he voluntarily surrenders, even though he obviously won't be detained and won't be perp walked.
― hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 21 March 2023 17:37 (one year ago) link
Trump being perp-walked in cuffs is a delicious fantasy but it will forever remain just that, a fantasy.
He only brings up the possibility so that he can boast about it not happening
― carne asana (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 21 March 2023 17:39 (one year ago) link
so tired of this. nothing is going to happen. we're going to get a statement later this week or early next week, stating that they have decided to not indict him after all. this guy will never see a single legal consequence for any of this. stop fantasizing people.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 21 March 2023 17:41 (one year ago) link
Crowd of 300+ has gathered in the east village with police presence but someone said it’s for a sneaker giveaway…
― realistic pillow (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, 21 March 2023 17:44 (one year ago) link
I do wonder to what extent repeatedly declaring, with doubtless justified cynicism, this won't happen helps reinforce the unlikelihood that it will happen.
― dicbo=v2-ubswizzb&hrt (stevie), Tuesday, 21 March 2023 17:47 (one year ago) link
i like the ai photo of trump running away from the cops because, due to the situation, it implies he went to the DA office to turn himself in and then got cold feet and darted across the street
― treeship., Tuesday, 21 March 2023 17:52 (one year ago) link
of course he's not going to be perp walked, nobody ever suggested he was. powerful people are never perp-walked unless they do an OJ Simpson type escape.
― hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 21 March 2023 17:53 (one year ago) link
he's not even going to be arrested, ever.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 21 March 2023 17:53 (one year ago) link
if everyone wants to keep reading the tea leaves of today to suggest the indictment isn't going to happen because it doesn't happen on the day that only Trump himself said it was going to happen and nobody else did, well....
― hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 21 March 2023 17:54 (one year ago) link
this was a good way for trump to turn the spotlight back on himself though, which is his favorite place for it to be. good work trump.
― treeship., Tuesday, 21 March 2023 17:55 (one year ago) link
seriously, the doom posts are really unnecessary
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Tuesday, 21 March 2023 17:57 (one year ago) link
― obsidian crocogolem (sleeve), Tuesday, 21 March 2023 17:57 (one year ago) link
you say doom posts, i say dose of realism. but, whatever.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 21 March 2023 17:57 (one year ago) link
I've noticed that the future is always somewhat uncertain until it arrives.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 21 March 2023 17:58 (one year ago) link
i think he could still get arrested, for this or something else. he is different from other presidents in many ways so what happened to say, nixon, isn't a precedent.
― treeship., Tuesday, 21 March 2023 18:01 (one year ago) link
I really don't see how "nothing will happen" is realism when all signs seem to be pointing towards an indictment
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Tuesday, 21 March 2023 18:06 (one year ago) link
nothing will happen until something happens
― dicbo=v2-ubswizzb&hrt (stevie), Tuesday, 21 March 2023 18:07 (one year ago) link
is how i break it down to an extent
i mean i remember 2016 when this noxious fart was never going to win the election/the candidacy/etc etc
something will happen and it will be nothing
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 21 March 2023 18:07 (one year ago) link
but maybe someone will turn that nothing into something
― dicbo=v2-ubswizzb&hrt (stevie), Tuesday, 21 March 2023 18:08 (one year ago) link
but also maybe not
i like the ai photo of trump running away from the cops because, due to the situation, it implies he went to the DA office to turn himself in and then got cold feet and darted across the street can run
― عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.), Tuesday, 21 March 2023 18:08 (one year ago) link
but does the doubtless earned cynicism not translate into adverse force against the possibility of something happening?
Whatever happens, happens.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 21 March 2023 18:12 (one year ago) link
can the subaltern tweet
― hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 21 March 2023 18:12 (one year ago) link
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Tuesday, March 21, 2023 1:06 PM (four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
all signs have been pointing towards all sorts of bad shit happening to Trump the last 6 years, it never does
― frogbs, Tuesday, 21 March 2023 18:14 (one year ago) link
re no president ever seeing judgement for what theyve done i do think trump uniquely violated the compact of the position he didnt play the game how youre supposed to which maybe leaves him vulnerable in a way the other presidents arent, he still obvs has a huge special safety net but its maybe not totally failsafe like it wouldve been if he hadnt been out there just doing whatever
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 21 March 2023 18:15 (one year ago) link
for instance multiple criminal investigations of an ex pres is not something thats happened before or at least not in modern times
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 21 March 2023 18:20 (one year ago) link
It would have happened with Nixon but for the pardon.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 21 March 2023 18:21 (one year ago) link
idk this just feels like the sort of situation where decisions have to be made up and down a bunch of channels and when you run into a Trump/Republican loyalist things will just die on the vine
― frogbs, Tuesday, 21 March 2023 18:25 (one year ago) link
that's the spirit
― dicbo=v2-ubswizzb&hrt (stevie), Tuesday, 21 March 2023 18:26 (one year ago) link
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, March 21, 2023 2:21 PM (two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
maybe who knows but they took care of it, regardless trump doesnt have that luxury
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 21 March 2023 18:27 (one year ago) link
my question is why are all these defeatist voices showing up today, when the only source of the exact day of the supposed indictment was Trump himself. we believe him now?
like, he wasn't the source that an indictment was going to happen. he was the source that stipulated it'd happen on Tuesday.
― hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 21 March 2023 18:28 (one year ago) link
like Trump adopting such an abrasive, unlikeable persona really paid off. his supporters/sycophants can just say "you're only doing this because you hate him!" and it's not totally false. people do really fucking hate him. and not in the same way they hated Dubya
― frogbs, Tuesday, 21 March 2023 18:29 (one year ago) link
my question is why are all these defeatist voices showing up today
hey now I've been camp "nothing important will happen" for a while
― frogbs, Tuesday, 21 March 2023 18:30 (one year ago) link
The only consequence he is likely to face is his own death, which I hope will be protracted and full of suffering.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 21 March 2023 18:33 (one year ago) link
like the more realistic reaction here is, he will be indicted, but the charges won't be that heavy, and he's not going to serve any time for these particular charges, but probably pay some huge fine or something.
other charges in the pipeline are more serious, but dude isn't like going to be lifting weights in prison any time soon.
― hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 21 March 2023 18:33 (one year ago) link
indicting him seems pretty doable from where we are now, bringing home a conviction tho idk an actual trump criminal trial would be such a shitstorm lol, mb theyll let him plead out for a slap on the wrist go home with a conviction of a president in their pocket
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 21 March 2023 18:36 (one year ago) link
The main thing I'm tracking is that the only establishment people out there talking about an indictment being political or divisive are GOP ghouls whose jobs depend upon Trump's fortunes. Are there centrist columnists decrying the arrest of a former President? I don't know. Seems like if he was really going to avoid indictment here there'd be all these retired politicians talking about decency and moderation.
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Tuesday, 21 March 2023 18:36 (one year ago) link
Stevie, you appear to be ascribing power to people who have exactly zero amount of power
Like, there is utterly no way my posting "it won't happen" on ILX has any bearing on what does or doesn't happen in the world.
And: being indicted (which is actually possible, even likely) is not the same thing as being arrested (which is what Trump claimed).
I maintain that the only reason he said he would be "arrested" is so that he can claim victory when it does not happen. He has preemptively cast anything short of a cuffed perp-walk as a victory.
It is the most rudimentary PR: manage expectations such that you can spin things so that you look like a winner no matter what happens.
― carne asana (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 21 March 2023 18:37 (one year ago) link
i mean yea, it definitely seems more likely that he will than he wont, but even still it seems meaningless. he'll pay a 50k fine and fundraise 500k off the persecution complex
― frogbs, Tuesday, 21 March 2023 18:37 (one year ago) link
Let's all show decency and moderation toward the man who took large dumps on the national rug.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 21 March 2023 18:38 (one year ago) link
how much money do u think his followers have left
― hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 21 March 2023 18:38 (one year ago) link
They haven't maxed out their credit cards yet . . . unless they didn't uncheck that little "automatically renew" box.
I'm sure whatever happened was his attorneys told him he was likely to be indicted between Monday and Wednesday, and Trump, being a complete moron, jumped to the conclusion that he was being arrested on Tuesday. Because of course he doesn't know the difference between an arrest and an indictment, or an arrest and coming in for arraignment. And yeah, assuming the pending charges are what we assume them to be, they're pretty minor, in the scheme of things, and will not result in any significant punishment. But the stuff down the line (Georgia and classified docs) could, as could the fraud case in progress, as could the Jean Carroll case, as could etc.. He'll never see the inside of a a cell, but this deep pile of prosecutions isn't doing him any favors.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 21 March 2023 18:41 (one year ago) link
― limb tins & cum (gyac), Tuesday, 21 March 2023 18:46 (one year ago) link
this deep pile of prosecutions isn't doing him any favors
I dunno, seems like a lot of people were trying to forget him and move past him. Including people who voted for him twice.
Him being prosecuted / persecuted puts him back in the headlines, which is where he wants to be. The MAGAheads (who might have drifted into irrelevance) are all fired up again, due to the lawfare against their orange god.
― carne asana (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 21 March 2023 18:48 (one year ago) link
he doesn't know the difference between an arrest and an indictment, or an arrest and coming in for arraignment
Josh otm. His red-hat brigade knows even less about how the world works. Hence, a PR coup for the Donald no matter what happens. Or doesn't happen.
― carne asana (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 21 March 2023 18:51 (one year ago) link
I don't buy the whole "prosecution helps him, actually" line of thinking
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Tuesday, 21 March 2023 18:58 (one year ago) link
yeah it's absurd and I am FPing everyone who says it
― obsidian crocogolem (sleeve), Tuesday, 21 March 2023 18:58 (one year ago) link
Yeah, prosecution might get him back on the front pages, but it doesn't earn him any new support. Just makes fans of his extralegal shenanigans that much more frenzied.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 21 March 2023 19:01 (one year ago) link
I don't think it helps him either but it's true that Trump has a spell over such a wide swath of the Republican base which makes it real difficult for any consequences to happen. Like, the man could very well be elected president again next year. But if DeSantis actually manages to convert the Trump people and becomes the nominee I think what lagoon said is probably otm, once he's completely out of power nobody's gonna be loyal to him
― frogbs, Tuesday, 21 March 2023 19:05 (one year ago) link
_but does the doubtless earned cynicism not translate into adverse force against the possibility of something happening?_Stevie if any of us had this power I doubt we’d be in this scenario.
― piedro àlamodevar (wins), Tuesday, 21 March 2023 19:09 (one year ago) link
unless it's a clown car field, you have to get *some* votes from chamber of commerce types to win a GOP nomination. 0 votes from them is not enough. and you need them to turn out to win a national election. him being charged with a felony is not good news for him, be serious.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 21 March 2023 19:10 (one year ago) link
xp ikr like you’d waste that kind of power on that sort of shite if you had it“Oh no, one of the thirty people who still reads ilx and is eligible to vote in America saw a post calling Biden a rapist, the race is over”
― limb tins & cum (gyac), Tuesday, 21 March 2023 19:18 (one year ago) link
um excuse me there are like a thousand lurkers it’s a legit concern
― piedro àlamodevar (wins), Tuesday, 21 March 2023 19:40 (one year ago) link
I mean, it was an idle thought, and I'm not imagining it would have a concrete effect on voters, I was considering it more as helping build a general cynicism that saps any pressure for an indictment/prosecution to happen, and in a wider sense rather than just on ILX. It is dumb, I guess.
― dicbo=v2-ubswizzb&hrt (stevie), Tuesday, 21 March 2023 19:42 (one year ago) link
I don't want to feed into this BS much further, but this was pretty amusing:
Trump’s increasing insistence that he wants to be handcuffed behind his back for a perp walk appears to come from various motivations, including that he wants to project defiance in the face of what he sees as an unfair prosecution and that it would galvanize his base for his 2024 presidential campaign.But above all, people close to Trump said, he was deeply anxious that any special arrangements – like making his first court appearance by video link or skulking into the courthouse – would make him look weak or like a loser....Trump ... has told various allies over the weekend that he didn’t care if someone shot him – he would become “a martyr”. He later added that if he got shot, he would probably win the presidency in 2024, the sources said.
But above all, people close to Trump said, he was deeply anxious that any special arrangements – like making his first court appearance by video link or skulking into the courthouse – would make him look weak or like a loser.
Trump ... has told various allies over the weekend that he didn’t care if someone shot him – he would become “a martyr”. He later added that if he got shot, he would probably win the presidency in 2024, the sources said.
Win/win?
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 22 March 2023 15:51 (one year ago) link
New via Insider: The Manhattan 'hush-money' grand jury has been told not to come in on Wednesday, a cancellation that comes on the brink of a possible historic indictment vote of Trump, according to two law enforcement officers.— Hugo Lowell (@hugolowell) March 22, 2023
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 22 March 2023 15:52 (one year ago) link
ridiculous
― treeship., Wednesday, 22 March 2023 15:57 (one year ago) link
this is funny
― treeship., Wednesday, 22 March 2023 15:58 (one year ago) link
feel free to find out, Asshole
― assert (matttkkkk), Wednesday, 22 March 2023 16:00 (one year ago) link
pre-emptively removing bookmark, but there can be a ton of reasons for this that have nothing to do w/ having 'cold feet', as the article insinuates, and the prosecutors legally can't tell you why the delay, but I'm sure the internet is going to clusterfuck over the fact that Bragg didn't meet Trump's self-professed indictment deadline
― hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 22 March 2023 16:00 (one year ago) link
what if the guy Trump shot in the middle of 5th ave. was...himself?
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Wednesday, 22 March 2023 16:00 (one year ago) link
Someone's been watching Bob Roberts.
― dicbo=v2-ubswizzb&hrt (stevie), Wednesday, 22 March 2023 16:01 (one year ago) link
hopefully it's more like Bullworth
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Wednesday, 22 March 2023 16:01 (one year ago) link
fwiw same dude is reporting that grand jury is on standby for tomorrow, Thursday. Gotta stretch this shit out, I guess ...
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 22 March 2023 16:07 (one year ago) link
Trump triggering a suicide vest when the Marshals try to take him would be fun.
― papal hotwife (milo z), Wednesday, 22 March 2023 16:13 (one year ago) link
xpthis world turns its back on God, we must kill to join him
― rob, Wednesday, 22 March 2023 16:37 (one year ago) link
Wait a minute, maybe it is happening after all!!!!
Donald Trump in witness box at #ProudBoys trial. pic.twitter.com/mXqOeHBeu2— norm_pattis (@PattisNorm) March 22, 2023
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 22 March 2023 16:50 (one year ago) link
He was indicted LIKE A DOG
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Wednesday, 22 March 2023 16:53 (one year ago) link
MAGArf
― carne asana (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 22 March 2023 18:56 (one year ago) link
whoever owns that dog is amazingly committed to pwning the libs at every possible opportunity
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 22 March 2023 18:59 (one year ago) link
Roaning the Ribs.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 22 March 2023 19:27 (one year ago) link
i would assume jurors being told not to come in might have more to do with security fears than anything else?
― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 22 March 2023 19:42 (one year ago) link
wonder if this is why, this thread implies something pretty major was discovered in the classified docs thing recently
BREAKING: Potential earthquake coming in Mar-a-Lago documents case. DC Circuit sets unprecedented schedule requiring Trump counsel to submit filing by midnight TONIGHT and then DOJ to reply by 6 a.m. tomorrow morning.Did the court see evidence of national security threats?— Tristan Snell (@TristanSnell) March 22, 2023
― frogbs, Wednesday, 22 March 2023 20:05 (one year ago) link
The fact that the DC Circuit ordered Trump's lawyer to testify to a grand jury about the classified documents case is in itself pretty compelling evidence that something very serious was discovered. Compelling a lawyer to breach client confidentiality is extremely rare. Whatever the outcome of this, I'm thinking most of the court's records will be sealed. We plebians won't get to see the inside scoop.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 22 March 2023 20:21 (one year ago) link
The "I'd win if I got shot" thing is def Trump remembering what happened to his old pal Bolsonaro.
― Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 22 March 2023 20:26 (one year ago) link
MORE: Mar-a-Lago bombshell may be, in part, that Trump lawyer Evan Corcoran RECORDED and transcribed conversations, possibly between himself and Donald Trump. Corcoran has been ordered to hand over transcriptions. There is something crucial in Corcoran’s documents or testimony.— Tristan Snell (@TristanSnell) March 22, 2023
― hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 22 March 2023 20:38 (one year ago) link
Circuit Court ruled against Trump/attorney, attorney compelled to testify against Trump:
https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/3913007-appeals-court-backs-doj-forcing-trump-attorney-to-aid-documents-probe/
― hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 22 March 2023 20:50 (one year ago) link
Can we plz have no more "major bombshell coming soon" stuff?
I will believe that something is happening when it happens. We've had, like, eight years of these "major thing ABOUT TO HAPPEN" telegraphs and the only things that ever happen are mostly shit.
Otherwise it's just an eternal krakenboner
― carne asana (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 22 March 2023 20:54 (one year ago) link
Not relitigating the "doom" posting from yesterday, just to say that part of the problem with following this stuff is that it gets exhausting wading through every single "bombshell!", "huge news" tweet from 4,650 armchair lawyers with a blue checkmark every day. I think the fatigue of seeing these type of proclamations, dozens of times a day in some cases, has turned people pretty cynical about even the most legit newsworthy breaks.
(caught in the xpost with YMP)
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 22 March 2023 20:55 (one year ago) link
Uhh...
Literally the article I just posted is the confirmation of the bombshell that was posted two posts above it.
― hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 22 March 2023 20:57 (one year ago) link
Not sure if you were responding to me or YMP, but it's not that specific bombshell, but that we've been told about 15-20 alleged bombshells since last Friday, which makes it hard to acknowledge what might be legit new developments worth watching.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 22 March 2023 21:00 (one year ago) link
It was to Tracer
Like the original tweet posted was from last night saying "omg the District Court ordered Trump's lawyer to testify by midnight, something must have prompted them to act fast", I then posted a tweet showing that it likely meant Corcoran had tapes and transcriptions that he had to hand over, and the news just confirmed that is exactly what happened. The district court used the words "criminal scheme" to describe what Trump did and ordered him to testify against Trump and turn over all of those recordings. they believe Trump committed a crime and his attorney knowingly aided him
This isn't speculation. It happened.
― hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 22 March 2023 21:02 (one year ago) link
Like it blows my mind that...
Tuesday: "Major bombshell coming"Wednesday: "Confirmed, thing happened exactly as described, very serious"
Is being put in the same league as
2016: "Major info dump coming out on Friday"
― hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 22 March 2023 21:03 (one year ago) link
Back the fuck out of this thread, I'm in a mood already
― hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 22 March 2023 21:04 (one year ago) link
*backing
hah good thing you clarified
― frogbs, Wednesday, 22 March 2023 21:05 (one year ago) link
idk I get how exhausting this all is but it's not like there weren't bombshells every week or two during his presidency, it's just Trump is immune to all that shit
― frogbs, Wednesday, 22 March 2023 21:06 (one year ago) link
I rather prefer hopeful speculation about possible consequences of his actions to the constant stream of "nothing will come of this" and trump death fantasies itt.
― BrianB, Wednesday, 22 March 2023 21:14 (one year ago) link
Trump can still appeal the DC Circuit ruling to the SCOTUS. Knowing him, he will try. Whatever evidence of a "criminal scheme" the original judge saw before her ruling, it was developed independently of the materials and testimony being demanded by the court order. One suspects that independent evidence is fairly strong to warrant these rulings.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 22 March 2023 21:14 (one year ago) link
This special counsel knows his shit and Garland is not impeding him.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 22 March 2023 21:19 (one year ago) link
I am not necessarily saying "nothing will come of this."
Just, I'll celebrate when there are some actual consequences for this mofo. We've been hearing about potential legal peril for years. I'm not uncorking the champagne until something real happens.
― carne asana (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 22 March 2023 21:24 (one year ago) link
may I mix a Negroni?
― the very juice and sperm of kindness. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 22 March 2023 21:25 (one year ago) link
You may and you should.
― carne asana (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 22 March 2023 21:30 (one year ago) link
years ago there weren't multiple active cases in criminal court against him, there was a Special Investigation that many of us (me included) put too much faith in, and impeachment proceedings that we knew wouldn't progress to conviction in the Senate, and a whole bunch of unsourced rumors.
this is tangible information about the proceedings of an actual criminal case where his own lawyer has been ordered to testify against him - something about 5 million degrees more severity than he faced while in office or since, up until this point. you may not find that important or interesting, many of us do.
as Aimless points out, he can and probably will appeal to SCOTUS, but this SCOTUS has proven they care more about issues than protecting specific individuals who aren't even in office any more, esp given their lack of desire to even hear his lawsuits regarding 'election fraud', and their refusal to overturn a lower court and block the release of his tax returns. they could rule the court overstepped. they might not. but what happened is quite literally a big deal.
― hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 22 March 2023 21:32 (one year ago) link
(and when I say 'care more about issues', let me be VERY CLEAR that I mean "care more about advancing the extremely racist, misogynist, and deadly issues that the extreme right-wing death cult keeps sending through the court system" and not actually doing their actual jobs)
― hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 22 March 2023 21:33 (one year ago) link
I’m waiting for confirmation from Lou mensch before I start celebrating
― piedro àlamodevar (wins), Wednesday, 22 March 2023 21:43 (one year ago) link
it's not real until JoJofromJerz sez so
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 22 March 2023 21:47 (one year ago) link
― c u (crüt), Thursday, 23 March 2023 12:41 (one year ago) link
That's the direction I'm leaning in right now.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 23 March 2023 12:49 (one year ago) link
NEW: The Manhattan grand jury will not hear the Trump "hush-money" case for the rest of this week, source tells @Italiano_Laura https://t.co/r1jfbjSLL3— Oma Seddiq (@omaseddiq) March 23, 2023
― frogbs, Thursday, 23 March 2023 13:39 (one year ago) link
Lucy, football
Some assembly required
― carne asana (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 23 March 2023 13:41 (one year ago) link
I dunno, this seems to be trolling Trump as much as trolling us. Keep him guessing!
― "The pudding incident?" (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 23 March 2023 14:11 (one year ago) link
Spring break!
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Thursday, 23 March 2023 14:15 (one year ago) link
I'm not a lawyer and likely don't know enough about the grand jury process, or maybe it's just reporters using confusing terminology, but if they haven't finished hearing the case how can anyone know for certain the indictment is imminent? I understand that the significant majority of cases before grand jury result in indictments, but the order of things here seems confusing.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 23 March 2023 14:20 (one year ago) link
b/c the media fell into Trump's trap again
― the very juice and sperm of kindness. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 23 March 2023 14:22 (one year ago) link
dude is gonna die in his sleep at Mar a Lago at age 90, I've accepted it
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 23 March 2023 14:23 (one year ago) link
xpost - that was almost the second part of my post before i deleted it "is it because the media falls for his bullshit every. fucking. time."
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 23 March 2023 14:29 (one year ago) link
b/c the media fell into Trump's trap again― the very juice and sperm of kindness. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, March 23, 2023 10:22 AM (fourteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
― the very juice and sperm of kindness. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, March 23, 2023 10:22 AM (fourteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
it's unbelievable that this happened again
― treeship., Thursday, 23 March 2023 14:37 (one year ago) link
the D.A. should have issued a statement after trump's tweet about getting arrested on tuesday saying that the grand jury hadn't finished deliberating and any indictments that follow the deliberations will be revealed at that time.
― treeship., Thursday, 23 March 2023 14:39 (one year ago) link
now it looks like they are backtracking due to political pressure.
however, it's not all on the DA office. the times and other news outlets were citing inside sources saying his indictment was "imminent."
― treeship., Thursday, 23 March 2023 14:40 (one year ago) link
When the streams cross!
UPDATE: Joe Biggs’ attorney Norm Pattis just asked Corcoran if he’d accept service of a subpoena to Trump for testimony in the Proud Boys trial. Corcoran told him he “wasn’t authorized” to accept it, Pattis says.— Kyle Cheney (@kyledcheney) March 23, 2023
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 23 March 2023 15:03 (one year ago) link
Busy day over there
MORE: Four Trump attorneys and Pence attorney Emmet FLOOD just walked into Chief Judge Boasberg’s courtroom to argue over Pence grand jury subpoena. AUSA Thomas Windom just entered as well for the government.— Kyle Cheney (@kyledcheney) March 23, 2023
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 23 March 2023 15:04 (one year ago) link
Oh yeah and if you were wondering:
New: Bragg’s response to House GOP pic.twitter.com/79jsNwEUz1— Jordain Carney (@jordainc) March 23, 2023
BRAGG bottom line: There’s no legitimate legislative reason to probe his ongoing investigation. The claim that it’s purely political is “unfounded” and can only be legitimately alleged during NY court proceedings. pic.twitter.com/XjSSavyvhP— Kyle Cheney (@kyledcheney) March 23, 2023
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 23 March 2023 15:09 (one year ago) link
lol at "defendant created the false impression that he would be arrested the next day"
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Thursday, 23 March 2023 15:14 (one year ago) link
it's amazing how much confusion trump is STILL able to cause
― treeship., Thursday, 23 March 2023 15:24 (one year ago) link
And yet people keep calling us skeptics out for being.... skeptical.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 23 March 2023 15:28 (one year ago) link
skepticism that there will be no legal consequences I understand, saying "this all just makes him stronger" is ludicrous
― obsidian crocogolem (sleeve), Thursday, 23 March 2023 15:34 (one year ago) link
at some level i think people want him back. they want to see him in handcuffs, they want to see his goons riot and then get arrested, etc. it's like a sequel to a hit movie.
― treeship., Thursday, 23 March 2023 15:34 (one year ago) link
xp - yeah I'm def not onboard "this will make him stronger" train, but the former absolutely. the most likely worst (best?) case outcome in any of the ongoing cases is that he'll end up with a minimal, "symbolic", slap on the wrist fine that he supporters will happily pony up for and he'll continue to sow chaos to uncritical media dipshits for another decade from his gold-plated compound.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 23 March 2023 15:37 (one year ago) link
the thing that's causing my brain to go crack-ping right now is that Michael Cohen ALREADY served time for trying to cover this up, which is almost certainly a much harsher punishment than what the man who ordered him to do it will get, and now Trump is using Cohen's "criminal history" as evidence that he's not a reliable witness, it's making me feel like Frank Grimes right now
― frogbs, Thursday, 23 March 2023 15:41 (one year ago) link
I think the legal system is simply not designed for, and perhaps has never faced, a chaos agent as overwhelming as Trump.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 23 March 2023 15:45 (one year ago) link
maybe his whole game is just to make all go insane.
― treeship., Thursday, 23 March 2023 15:47 (one year ago) link
i think he relishes the contradictions and the stunned look on people's faces as they are plowed down by the firehose of bullshit
yea to make another Simpsons reference this is the Mr. Burns thing where he has so many health problems that none of them can get through the door to actually kill him, it sure seems like a big problem with these investigations is the fact that there are so many happening at once and he committed so many crimes that we're still discovering new ones
― frogbs, Thursday, 23 March 2023 15:50 (one year ago) link
It seems like it shouldn’t matter though. People can be tried for several independent crimes.
― treeship., Thursday, 23 March 2023 15:53 (one year ago) link
and there's the rub, there is so much about the last seven years of this guy's life that "should" have happened and yet... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
tbqh, even with the knowledge that we are in a completely unprecedented era wrt what is deemed "acceptable" for a politician, i still have trouble wrapping my brain around how there were stretches where this fuckin' guy would have things come out weekly that had killed entire careers in the recent past!
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 23 March 2023 16:01 (one year ago) link
maybe we're all just living in a simulation, or the dream my brain is concocting while I'm in a coma
― dicbo=v2-ubswizzb&hrt (stevie), Thursday, 23 March 2023 16:28 (one year ago) link
we are in a completely unprecedented era wrt what is deemed "acceptable" for a politician
to be fair a lot of what's "acceptable" now applies to Trump and Trump only. I think the "nothing matters lol" mentality has caused Republicans to lose a lot of winnable races, even to the extent they lost a Senate seat in Alabama because they didn't want to cut ties with a dude who was probably a pedophile. they ran a lot of freaks and weirdos in the midterms and nearly all of them lost. Boebert was in a R+20 district and won by like 3 votes vs. a dude nobody had ever heard of. Trump's been a known quality as a celebrity and a scumbag for decades so I think he's kinda grandfathered into the anti-mattering shield. its kinda like how a bunch of rock musicians from the 60s almost certainly did a lot of dubious shit that would absolutely get you cancelled today (and you know because they wrote it into their own memoirs and went "ah yeah, those were the days") but nobody cares because "that's just how it was back then".
― frogbs, Thursday, 23 March 2023 16:35 (one year ago) link
Y'all the impending indictment news didn't all come from Trump. The date did.
The "he may be indicted soon" came from the fact that Bragg actually offered Trump the opportunity to testify before the Grand Jury, which is a usual sign that charges are forthcoming. Usually such an offer isn't granted if charges aren't coming - it's a last ditch chance to give defendants to answer grand jury questions before and indictment. This isn't like a public trial where you're forced to read tea leaves.
Enhanced Security protocols at the courthouse began well in advance of Trump's "I'm being arrested Tuesday statement", which was another acknowledgement of there being a feeling that charges were coming.
Bragg might ultimately decide not to, who knows, but the media didn't just get fed this by Trump
― hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Thursday, 23 March 2023 16:39 (one year ago) link
The media didn't even really suggest he'd be arrested Tuesday, they reported that he made that claim on social media. Readers for some reason took it as gospel
― hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Thursday, 23 March 2023 16:43 (one year ago) link
its true actually its just next tuesday
― lag∞n, Thursday, 23 March 2023 16:44 (one year ago) link
see you then
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Thursday, 23 March 2023 16:46 (one year ago) link
many are saying
― it's a new day in the international landscape (z_tbd), Thursday, 23 March 2023 16:46 (one year ago) link
if you have to guess wildly, guess on a day of the week. 1 out of 7 chances at worst, and if you know it's gonna be a weekday it's 1 in 5
― it's a new day in the international landscape (z_tbd), Thursday, 23 March 2023 16:47 (one year ago) link
if you predict when you will be arrested they have to arrest you that day or its unconstitutional
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Thursday, 23 March 2023 16:49 (one year ago) link
indictment week is the new infrastructure week
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Thursday, 23 March 2023 16:52 (one year ago) link
if you predict the day you're indicted, you get your choice of whether to go first or last during questioning and you get to choose the music
― it's a new day in the international landscape (z_tbd), Thursday, 23 March 2023 17:01 (one year ago) link
Sadly he predicted incorrectly, so he doesn't get the free large fries that would have otherwise come with his indictment.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 23 March 2023 17:04 (one year ago) link
Trump just shared a fake AI-created image of himself praying on Truth Social https://t.co/14SqJ96qhJ pic.twitter.com/SNAB2qi2GO— Matt Novak (@paleofuture) March 23, 2023
― lag∞n, Thursday, 23 March 2023 18:29 (one year ago) link
One CorinthianTwo CorinthiansThree times a Corinthian
― hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Thursday, 23 March 2023 18:32 (one year ago) link
People can be tried for several independent crimes
And if you're an unarmed poor person of color, you can be executed just for suspicion of a minor nonviolent crime or just during a routine traffic stop.
Just to put all this hilarity into sobering perspective. The justice system can move quickly when it wants to.
― carne asana (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 23 March 2023 19:00 (one year ago) link
Oh my god. Running out of words to describe how crazed he is pic.twitter.com/s6YkhnNOBN— Spiro’s Ghost (@SpiroAgnewGhost) March 23, 2023
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Thursday, 23 March 2023 19:33 (one year ago) link
dude is really, really fucking proud of those Georgia phone calls isn't he?
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 23 March 2023 19:36 (one year ago) link
PERFECT phone calls
― c u (crüt), Thursday, 23 March 2023 19:36 (one year ago) link
perfect phone calls is so absurd, and i can't believe it's far from the first phone call he's had that he described as perfect. the "beyond parody" stuff has been well discussed but when you take a step back and walk back in, hear "perfect phone calls" fresh, it's just astonishing
― it's a new day in the international landscape (z_tbd), Thursday, 23 March 2023 19:40 (one year ago) link
imagine your most perfect phone call
― it's a new day in the international landscape (z_tbd), Thursday, 23 March 2023 19:41 (one year ago) link
Even if we had no other supporting evidence, Trump's Truth Social cosplay is a decent signifier of deep mania
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/12/Nuke_%28Marvel_Comics_character%29.png
― Beautiful Bean Footage Fetishist (Old Lunch), Thursday, 23 March 2023 19:41 (one year ago) link
it's just a weird feedback loop with this guy, "perfect phone call" being one of those odd phrases that Trump sometimes says that people glomped on to, so naturally that makes Trump use it more, obviously not really understanding why people thought it was a weird phrase in the first place
― frogbs, Thursday, 23 March 2023 19:44 (one year ago) link
everything about it. the pristine quality of the audio. the time of day it was made. the dulcet tones of his voice. the asking to disenfranchise 100,000+ voters. one day this call will be played as a benchmark for all calls to be measured by.
― hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Thursday, 23 March 2023 19:47 (one year ago) link
I thought the original 'perfect call' was the one to Zelensky, no?
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 23 March 2023 19:54 (one year ago) link
it's hard to remember, so many of his calls are perfect. relaly it'd be easier just to ask which ones were only A minuses...and even those, I mean, those should be in the Smithsonian
― hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Thursday, 23 March 2023 19:55 (one year ago) link
Harassing and intimidating people at levels not seen before
Yes, as I recall, American history has heretofore been mercifully free of harassment and intimidation of innocent people
It's really amazing we made it so far
― carne asana (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 23 March 2023 20:09 (one year ago) link
There's a more recent post (I think from today) along the same lines that specifically mentions indictment. Call me crazy, but I don't think he's playing 8-dimensional chess here, I think he's been told an indictment is forthcoming.
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Thursday, 23 March 2023 20:11 (one year ago) link
He's not playing chess at all, he's too busy eating checkers.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 23 March 2023 20:11 (one year ago) link
the President of Evidence actually ruled today that they can't indict Trump what a super victory for America!!!
― hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Thursday, 23 March 2023 20:15 (one year ago) link
There is a loophole in the Constitution that a former President can be arrested at the Superbowl if halftime show performers are white.
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Thursday, 23 March 2023 20:17 (one year ago) link
There was some reportage I saw this morning from his purported inner circle that claimed his lawyers informed him, yes, an indictment is all but certain, with that settling in as they recommended, and he seemed to agree, to focusing on a future appeal. but there are many stories about this mad monkey seemingly accepting an outcome only to turn around and freak out in public about it.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 23 March 2023 20:18 (one year ago) link
Bombthrower, what a sick burn. If Trump had started his own fast food chain this would be one of the characters.
― nashwan, Thursday, 23 March 2023 20:21 (one year ago) link
Mayor McCheesy
― carne asana (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 23 March 2023 20:24 (one year ago) link
Bombthrower sounds like the nickname a fast food place would give a frequent customer who would come in and just utterly destroy a toilet.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 23 March 2023 21:07 (one year ago) link
really more like *dropping* a bomb tho
― hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Thursday, 23 March 2023 21:25 (one year ago) link
if you're throwing it, kinda insinuates you didn't make it to said toilet
― hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Thursday, 23 March 2023 21:26 (one year ago) link
There is nothing wrong with the Bombthrower nickname, it is a PERFECT beautiful nickname.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 23 March 2023 22:14 (one year ago) link
Maybe that's what Trump was talking about when he complained about having to flush 10-15 times.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 23 March 2023 22:24 (one year ago) link
I know the true deplorables are beyond help but I would love to know what %age of his hardcore following aren't feeling at least a little uneasy about how unhinged and bonkers he is. Like, at least a few of the Nazis in the classic Downfall clip were shooting each other nervous glances.
― dicbo=v2-ubswizzb&hrt (stevie), Friday, 24 March 2023 10:25 (one year ago) link
0.0%
Someone just posted that his support among self-described conservatives has gone up since December.
― Rupal Gandhi (PBKR), Friday, 24 March 2023 11:45 (one year ago) link
and DeSantis keeps dropping. He's going to be the nominee unless he's in jail.
― the very juice and sperm of kindness. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 24 March 2023 11:49 (one year ago) link
I honestly can't even imagine another Trump campaign, let alone term.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 24 March 2023 12:58 (one year ago) link
at least a few of the Nazis in the classic Downfall clip were shooting each other nervous glances
The longer this Trump era limps on, the more I think that kind of portrayal of Hitler's followers is revisionist history.
― fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Friday, 24 March 2023 13:21 (one year ago) link
It's interesting, I'm reading a memoir right now from Hans Massaquoi, who had a German mother and an African father, and grew up black in Nazi Germany (and then went on to do a bunch of other impressive things). The general vibe he recalls is a mix of true believers and people absolutely disgusted with the Nazis, many of whom just held their nose and hoped it would all be over soon. From his perspective, though, as a young guy, he didn't really have any idea what was specifically going on, just bits and pieces and clues here and there, though he did understand why so many Nazis treated him like shit (even if his friends who joined the party didn't). Anyway, it's a good book and a novel perspective and kinda inspiring and ultimately worth more of your energy than the contemporary subject of our ire and distaste.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 24 March 2023 13:31 (one year ago) link
― Josh in Chicago
You're living it.
― the very juice and sperm of kindness. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 24 March 2023 13:37 (one year ago) link
I think there's almost certainly a faction of Trump Nation who deep down are ready to get past the clown show aspect of the moment and start literally incarcerating everyone on the other side, yes.
― fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Friday, 24 March 2023 13:37 (one year ago) link
Distinguishing Trump followers from other conservatives in 2023 is wasted time. They're the same thing.
Yeah, fuck 'em all.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 24 March 2023 13:38 (one year ago) link
You can go look at https://www.reddit.com/r/AskTrumpSupporters
for insight.
Plenty of them are tired/bored/embarrassed with Donaldian shenanigans, but still prefer him to any other alternative.
I have seen plenty of sentiments like "yeah sure I wish he would sometimes just shut up" or impatience with his hyperpersonal mudslinging ways, but none of these sentiments are turning Trump supporters into potential Democratic voters.
― carne asana (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 24 March 2023 13:49 (one year ago) link
Some of it is familiar partisanship: Biden's old, but I'm going to vote for him in 2024. Some of it is a lingering respect for the anti-democratic drool that Trump has legitimated and DeSantis purified.
― the very juice and sperm of kindness. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 24 March 2023 13:51 (one year ago) link
Preparing to leak about how concerned they were to Maggie Habermarck
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Friday, 24 March 2023 13:53 (one year ago) link
I have seen plenty of sentiments like "yeah sure I wish he would sometimes just shut up" or impatience with his hyperpersonal mudslinging ways, but none of these sentiments are turning Trump supporters into potential Democratic voters.― carne asana (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, March 24, 2023 9:49 AM (ten minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
― carne asana (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, March 24, 2023 9:49 AM (ten minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
These people are lying to themselves. The only thing that distinguishes him from other Republicans at this point is his showmanship.
― treeship., Friday, 24 March 2023 14:00 (one year ago) link
This is the thing people like about him, not the thing they could do without. It’s not like he was exceptionally gifted at governing and forming coalitions or whatever.
― treeship., Friday, 24 March 2023 14:01 (one year ago) link
i once sent a Trump voter an email saying he was a cunt and in revenge he signed me up for FBI email updates.
― hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Friday, 24 March 2023 14:01 (one year ago) link
seems pretty likely he's gonna call on his supporters to burn things down but he's gonna phrase it like "it would be a real tragedy if someone bombed the attorney general's office because of fake news!" which is gonna open up another investigation slowing this all down even further
― frogbs, Friday, 24 March 2023 14:03 (one year ago) link
it's unlike him to be that direct, he likes his followers to connect the dots so he can sell them out and say he didn't tell them to do it.
it's going to be harder to get his base to want to do what they did on 1/6/2021, when Trump was still in office and they felt more protected, like he could call off the National Guard (as he did) etc. but sure, some will def try things - they already are! hence why going anywhere these days has me always making sure I know where the exits are.
― hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Friday, 24 March 2023 14:09 (one year ago) link
also he is dumb enough to expose himself further but idk if *that* dumb, if anything that'd probably get him in custody faster
― hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Friday, 24 March 2023 14:11 (one year ago) link
seems pretty likely he's gonna call on his supporters to burn things down
In an overnight social media post, Trump predicted that “potential death and destruction” may result if, as expected, he is charged by the Manhattan district attorney in connection with hush-money payments to a porn star made during the 2016 campaign. https://t.co/nAiBlhlh97— erica orden (@eorden) March 24, 2023
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 24 March 2023 14:13 (one year ago) link
yeah that's the way he does it. "this might happen", then when someone does something, he can say "look I aws just predicting what would happen as a warning, not actually telling people to do it".
with the exception of Jan 6 where he quite literally sicced his folks on the Capitol
― hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Friday, 24 March 2023 14:17 (one year ago) link
this is largely, btw, the likely reason that any indictment has been 'delayed', because they're trying to bolster security for the grand jury and the buildings/etc
― hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Friday, 24 March 2023 14:19 (one year ago) link
(though that was already happening before he opened his maw)
curious what exactly the risk is of something like that happening again. was 1/6 considered a huge dud in Trumpworld? it accomplished nothing, made them look like dumb violent thugs, got a few people killed, and several hundred arrested. are any of them still like "hell yeah I'd do it again"?
― frogbs, Friday, 24 March 2023 14:24 (one year ago) link
What else, exactly, do you think is on their social calendars?
― fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Friday, 24 March 2023 14:25 (one year ago) link
well, it was Antifa so they don't like it
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Friday, 24 March 2023 14:25 (one year ago) link
― fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.),
In January 2021? Catching COVID at the Perkins salad bar.
― the very juice and sperm of kindness. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 24 March 2023 14:28 (one year ago) link
A lot of people that showed up on 1/6 expected nothing to happen to them because they thought Trump's army/national guard/etc would protect them. Or swoop in and join them
A few of them were quoted in the press as being shocked when this didn't happen.
Your Proud Boys etc don't care about jail, but good luck getting the random families to show up again
― hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Friday, 24 March 2023 14:30 (one year ago) link
yeah agreed knowing what they know now the average trump fan is not going to try another jan 6 but the hardcore militants could get up to stuff
― lag∞n, Friday, 24 March 2023 17:53 (one year ago) link
across the various wingnut channels when people suggest showing up somewhere with guns or whatever half the responses are accusing it of being a fed honeypot, mostly theyre not really cut out for that sort of thing on jan 6 they just thought they were allowed to
― lag∞n, Friday, 24 March 2023 17:55 (one year ago) link
I also suspect the authorities will be more aggressive in putting them down, and the wingnut warriors know that.
― nickn, Friday, 24 March 2023 18:04 (one year ago) link
Will they though? I don't see nypd being eager to arrest their own.
― Chyiv Kyiv (Fetchboy), Friday, 24 March 2023 18:58 (one year ago) link
I do think the right wing militia groups are still scary and in FL the Three Percenters literally showed up to 'protect' the Flagler school board from a trans activist group that was protesting it and brought weapons and armor and intimidated and shouted hate invective at them and even tried to follow some of them home.
that's the shit that keeps me up at night. the activist group didn't buckle though.
― hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Friday, 24 March 2023 19:02 (one year ago) link
The light dawns a bit:
Trump: You know, I always used to think that, uh, attorneys really had a very high status in life that when you had an attorney, the attorneys can't be subpoenaed. They can't be summoned to talk.. pic.twitter.com/cvi0NfUyBz— Acyn (@Acyn) March 25, 2023
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 25 March 2023 13:36 (one year ago) link
https://dfjc3etzov2zz.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/Mad-Magazine-Alfred-Neuman-what-me-worry.gif
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 25 March 2023 13:43 (one year ago) link
Wish the FBI would do one of those Mad Fold-Ins to his head
― hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Saturday, 25 March 2023 16:04 (one year ago) link
We are so fucking back it’s insane pic.twitter.com/uc4g6Wldb4— Movies Consigliere (@MuskTillDawn) March 25, 2023
― lag∞n, Saturday, 25 March 2023 16:52 (one year ago) link
That's quite a summation.
― This machine bores fascism (PBKR), Saturday, 25 March 2023 17:02 (one year ago) link
lol is he subtweeting his kids
― Daniel_Rf, Saturday, 25 March 2023 17:09 (one year ago) link
You can tell that farm policy, the subject he was supposed to address, bores him to tears and he knows it bores most of his base, too, so he couldn't resist leaving the script and clowning on the whole subject like a naughty kid clowning for the class during a boring book report. His base loves that shit and why not.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Saturday, 25 March 2023 17:28 (one year ago) link
He’s definitely the best human cartoon character to ever do it. Too bad he set his sights on the presidency and not just more reality tv ventures.
― treeship., Saturday, 25 March 2023 18:20 (one year ago) link
second time recently hes gone off script to talk about people not loving their children
― lag∞n, Saturday, 25 March 2023 18:56 (one year ago) link
much in the way Emeril would derail mundane conversations to talk about cooking, you gravitate towards what you have mastery of
― hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Saturday, 25 March 2023 19:05 (one year ago) link
"I Stopped Loving Them Today"
― hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Saturday, 25 March 2023 19:06 (one year ago) link
It plays to his base of people whose children blocked them on Facebook by mid-2017.
― papal hotwife (milo z), Saturday, 25 March 2023 19:09 (one year ago) link
I imagine some of those people forgot they had children by 2020
― hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Saturday, 25 March 2023 19:10 (one year ago) link
Surprised he hasn't actively encouraged his followers to write him into their wills. He could be picking up so many condos in the Villages over the next couple of years.
― papal hotwife (milo z), Saturday, 25 March 2023 19:10 (one year ago) link
lol i wonder how many people designated him as life insurance beneficiary
― hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Saturday, 25 March 2023 19:11 (one year ago) link
and then struggled to find out his SSN
trumpworld is so crooked lol
My story today, gift version. The exiled Chinese suspect in a billion-dollar series of frauds secretly controlled social network Gettr, which was fronted by Trump advisor Jason Miller. https://t.co/LoK0vrLHRU— Joseph Menn (@josephmenn) March 26, 2023
― lag∞n, Sunday, 26 March 2023 14:53 (one year ago) link
I mean I'm looking forward to his death for many reasons but I just realized thanks to that farm video that his will/estate etc is going to be a comedic soap opera of epic proportions, god that will be fun when he sticks the knife into Don Jr from the grave
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 26 March 2023 15:07 (one year ago) link
It’s an odd time
WATCH: Trump lawyer @JosephTacopina asks what Trump was "supposed to put in his personal ledger? 'Payment for hush money to quiet an affair I claim I never had'?"@chucktodd: "How about the truth?""... You're being petty." pic.twitter.com/a3FMWykcnQ— Meet the Press (@MeetThePress) March 26, 2023
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 26 March 2023 15:25 (one year ago) link
Lol "his hands were tied, he had to lie!"
― hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Sunday, 26 March 2023 15:35 (one year ago) link
As I said earlier, if Joe Tacopina is your lawyer, you might get off, but you did that shit and everybody knows it.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Sunday, 26 March 2023 16:02 (one year ago) link
if you do hire joe tacopina as your lawyer maybe dont hire him as your going on tv guy too
― lag∞n, Sunday, 26 March 2023 16:06 (one year ago) link
he looks like poached salmon with hair
― the very juice and sperm of kindness. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 26 March 2023 16:08 (one year ago) link
He looks like one of those balloons from the Simpsons arcade game right before it explodes
― frogbs, Sunday, 26 March 2023 16:14 (one year ago) link
lag∞n, start a poll!
― the very juice and sperm of kindness. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 26 March 2023 16:18 (one year ago) link
Lol Alfred
― hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Sunday, 26 March 2023 16:52 (one year ago) link
ooh ooh mister tacopina
― mookieproof, Sunday, 26 March 2023 17:02 (one year ago) link
I'm just waiting for Tacopina to join this list of over 30 -- 30! -- Trump lawyers who have been investigated, questioned, etc. about their work with him.
https://www.emptywheel.net/2023/03/24/happy-crime-fraud-exception-day-for-those-who-celebrate/
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 26 March 2023 17:20 (one year ago) link
Mister Tacopina Mister Bob Tacopina
― "The pudding incident?" (Boring, Maryland), Sunday, 26 March 2023 18:14 (one year ago) link
win
― liberal with a capital LIE (Hunt3r), Monday, 27 March 2023 03:24 (one year ago) link
https://www.cnbc.com/2023/03/29/trump-grand-jury-in-new-york-expected-to-take-month-off-.html
The New York grand jury being used for a criminal investigation of former President Donald Trump is not expected to hear evidence for the next month, according to multiple reports Wednesday.
love to see how our gullible-ass media fell for his dumb fuck truth post
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 29 March 2023 17:23 (one year ago) link
welp.. love to see how he wriggles... etc etc
this is precisely why I remain firmly in the skeptical as fuck camp re: tangible consequences for this shitstain
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 29 March 2023 17:26 (one year ago) link
if they can only push it a little further into primary season they'll be firmly in the "well gee we couldn't possibly do anything that would interfere with an election" zone
― frogbs, Wednesday, 29 March 2023 17:28 (one year ago) link
fwiw I did listen to an Ezra Klein podcast about this and his conclusion is that people shouldn't get their hopes up about the Stormy Daniels thing, in fact of the 20+ investigations Trump is currently under it's one of the least promising. the GA election interference and classified docs investigations are not only way stronger cases but obviously much more serious and damaging felonies. they're also cases which have won every mid-course court battle and the GA thing is about as open and shut as you can get. for political reasons you wouldn't really want *this* to be the thing he first gets indicted for anyway.
― frogbs, Wednesday, 29 March 2023 17:43 (one year ago) link
i'm sure that's true, at the point just annoyed for how many outlets fell for his self-serving bullshit so easily (last I saw he'd pulled in $1.5 million since his "arrest" claim)
but i don't think he'll ever be indicted for any of those other investigations either, this is all just nearly* meaningless show.
(* - obviously i'm all for this shit getting aired out and documented, so thankful for the investigations to at least pull that weight)
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 29 March 2023 17:47 (one year ago) link
Starting to think our justice system is overly populated with people who are legit terrified of his violent base, so they just keep punting on everything.
This is why he whips up the violent rhetoric, the intimidation works! Straight out of his old NYC mobster wannabe playbook.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 29 March 2023 18:03 (one year ago) link
do grand juries usually take a month off before reaching a decision?
― treeship., Wednesday, 29 March 2023 18:09 (one year ago) link
tbf media outlets are concerned first and foremost with audience engagement - trump's false claims about his arrest were a gift to them, and this delay is another gift
― c u (crüt), Wednesday, 29 March 2023 18:09 (one year ago) link
this hiatus was previously planned, not something they arbitrarily decided today. it's just that they didn't have an indictment prior to the previously scheduled hiatus
― hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 29 March 2023 18:18 (one year ago) link
also it can be reconvened if Bragg decides to during said hiatus
waiting for Bragg to take a great leap forward
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Wednesday, 29 March 2023 18:21 (one year ago) link
xpost - yeah the reporting is (unsurprisingly at this point) worded terribly. they aren't taking a month off, they are taking two weeks off starting April 10th. so the reality seems to be more "we won't hear anything more for probably a month" instead of an actual month long break.
The break is due in large part to a pre-scheduled two weeks off beginning April 10, the day after Easter, according to the people familiar with the situation, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because grand jury proceedings are secret.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 29 March 2023 18:31 (one year ago) link
https://cropper.watch.aetnd.com/cdn.watch.aetnd.com/sites/5/2017/11/CharlieBrownLucyFootball.jpg
― Chyiv Kyiv (Fetchboy), Wednesday, 29 March 2023 19:27 (one year ago) link
waiting for Bragg to take a great leap forward― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes),
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes),
ooh i see what you did there
― anatol_merklich, Wednesday, 29 March 2023 20:24 (one year ago) link
looks like its happening
MANHATTAN GRAND JURY VOTES TO INDICT TRUMP: https://t.co/bLrHeXTFLJ— Jonah Bromwich (@Jonesieman) March 30, 2023
― lag∞n, Thursday, 30 March 2023 21:30 (one year ago) link
but I was told it would never happen
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Thursday, 30 March 2023 21:40 (one year ago) link
An indictment will likely be announced in the coming days. By then, prosecutors working for the district attorney, Alvin L. Bragg, will have asked Mr. Trump to surrender and to face arraignment on charges that remain unknown for now.
― limb tins & cum (gyac), Thursday, 30 March 2023 21:42 (one year ago) link
think the consensus here was it probably would happen but that it's likely just gonna be a fine equal to maybe 5% of the amount he fundraised out of this
― frogbs, Thursday, 30 March 2023 21:42 (one year ago) link
Going full resistance
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 30 March 2023 21:42 (one year ago) link
Perp walk gifs time
― papal hotwife (milo z), Thursday, 30 March 2023 21:44 (one year ago) link
Will L&O do a ripped from the headlines episode?
lets fuckin go baby!
― lag∞n, Thursday, 30 March 2023 21:44 (one year ago) link
― The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 30 March 2023 21:46 (one year ago) link
it’s hard to see how Asshole is gonna wriggle his way outta this
― assert (matttkkkk), Thursday, 30 March 2023 21:46 (one year ago) link
I will believe it when I see it and not a moment before
― she loves me like a rock lobster (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 30 March 2023 21:48 (one year ago) link
He has risen fallen!
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 30 March 2023 21:49 (one year ago) link
we got him hell yeah
― Clay, Thursday, 30 March 2023 21:49 (one year ago) link
Another fucking indictment, great.
― the very juice and sperm of kindness. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 30 March 2023 21:50 (one year ago) link
Whatever happens, I’m just going to enjoy the moment, you know? This moment, when anything seems possible.
― The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 30 March 2023 21:50 (one year ago) link
he should go on the lam, down mexico way maybe
― lag∞n, Thursday, 30 March 2023 21:50 (one year ago) link
He should refuse to be taken alive.
― papal hotwife (milo z), Thursday, 30 March 2023 21:52 (one year ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/IJn7vJL.jpg
― frogbs, Thursday, 30 March 2023 21:52 (one year ago) link
Trump and Lindell flying over the rim of the Grand Canyon like Thelma & Louise
― papal hotwife (milo z), Thursday, 30 March 2023 21:53 (one year ago) link
he should offer to snitch on don jr
― lag∞n, Thursday, 30 March 2023 21:53 (one year ago) link
Feelin' kinda classic right now.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 30 March 2023 21:53 (one year ago) link
Lots of federales are saying
― It’s Only Her Factory, Girl! (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 30 March 2023 21:53 (one year ago) link
stoked for the madness obv
― JLB Credit (Jack BS), Thursday, 30 March 2023 21:54 (one year ago) link
exile in Saudi Arabia, he can take over Idi Amin's villa
― papal hotwife (milo z), Thursday, 30 March 2023 21:54 (one year ago) link
Trump is apparently on his way to Cleveland because he thought they said he was inducted
― hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Thursday, 30 March 2023 21:54 (one year ago) link
if it's about misappropriation of campaign funds, it amounts to very little if anything. if it's about fraud, then it gets somewhat more interesting. maybe a class C felony? then we get the endless pretrial motions and media chatter. still, it's something more than nothing.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 30 March 2023 21:55 (one year ago) link
While he's dealing with this more will be coming
― hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Thursday, 30 March 2023 21:56 (one year ago) link
Yeah, this was the least of all the stuff piling up.
― henry s, Thursday, 30 March 2023 21:57 (one year ago) link
So long as the GOP nominates him next year, and I see no reason they wouldn't nominate a felon.
― the very juice and sperm of kindness. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 30 March 2023 21:58 (one year ago) link
exactly, I don't get why we keep treating the misappropriation of funds as the end of the story when it's just the tip of the iceberg
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Thursday, 30 March 2023 21:59 (one year ago) link
Trump is on the way to the maternity ward because he heard he was going to be induced.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 30 March 2023 21:59 (one year ago) link
donald pls watch this pic.twitter.com/SHzqEul0QP— Osita Nwanevu (@OsitaNwanevu) March 30, 2023
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 30 March 2023 21:59 (one year ago) link
I just enjoy seeing him being made to eat shit no matter the size of the spoon.
― BrianB, Thursday, 30 March 2023 21:59 (one year ago) link
that's right
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Thursday, 30 March 2023 22:00 (one year ago) link
BrianB OTM
― The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 30 March 2023 22:00 (one year ago) link
Hey DJP, what's on your iPOD?
― hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Thursday, 30 March 2023 22:01 (one year ago) link
thought he was more of a pee guy than a shit guy tho
― papal hotwife (milo z), Thursday, 30 March 2023 22:01 (one year ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfWQS5fWxxU
― hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Thursday, 30 March 2023 22:02 (one year ago) link
Wonder if he'll wear that Superman t-shirt to court when he enters his plea.
― henry s, Thursday, 30 March 2023 22:06 (one year ago) link
And you just know he'll ad-lib the "not guilty" part ala O.J.
his mouthpiece will enter his plea in court. then he'll go stand in front of the courthouse and smugly lie his head off to the microphones.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 30 March 2023 22:10 (one year ago) link
More GOP reaction on Trump:Rep. Paul Gosar R-AZ: "This is third world politics"Sen. Thom Tillis R-NC: "This indictment doesn't pass the smell test"Rep. Ronny Jackson R-TX: "The hateful Deep State wants this country to BURN."— Jamie Dupree (@jamiedupree) March 30, 2023
― lag∞n, Thursday, 30 March 2023 22:20 (one year ago) link
you know youre into some serious shit when you make pol pot blush
Trump Jr. starts his podcast: "Well, guys, I guess I got some news at 10-15 minutes ago..."Apparently, Soros-backed Manhattan DA Alvin Bragg is indicting my father. Let's be clear folks: This is Communist-level shit. This is stuff that would make Mao, Stalin, Pol Pot blush."— Ben Collins (@oneunderscore__) March 30, 2023
― lag∞n, Thursday, 30 March 2023 22:24 (one year ago) link
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/mar/30/trump-indictment-charges-what-does-it-mean-stormy-daniels-payment-explained
"His attorneys are all but guaranteed to fight the charges tooth-and-nail in the pre-trial stages, submitting motions in efforts to exclude evidence and testimony they believe will harm his defense, as is normal in criminal cases.
This, in turn, will result in re-setting of deadlines and scheduling events, making a definitive trial date elusive until shortly before proceedings kick off. It’s possible that years elapse between Trump’s indictment and any possible trial."
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 30 March 2023 22:25 (one year ago) link
Remember that gop debate when they crowed about how it was the A team, and that none of them were being investigated by the FBI, and that was, like, a point of pride? We're awesome and totally not like Crooked Hillary.
That was fun.
― she loves me like a rock lobster (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 30 March 2023 22:28 (one year ago) link
From the QAnon "this means Obama is actually getting arrested" crowd pic.twitter.com/0FmWPZSke3— Aric Toler (@AricToler) March 30, 2023
― lag∞n, Thursday, 30 March 2023 22:43 (one year ago) link
INDICATED
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FsgH9PSWcAYjogf?format=jpg&name=large
― lag∞n, Thursday, 30 March 2023 22:44 (one year ago) link
So they’re saying these are felony charges?? I thought this campaign finance stuff was almost always a misdemeanor
― frogbs, Thursday, 30 March 2023 22:45 (one year ago) link
it's a new category, felony misdemeanor, just for ex-presidents.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 30 March 2023 22:47 (one year ago) link
"INDICATED"
dril can retire now
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 30 March 2023 22:49 (one year ago) link
I love it when I wake up from a nap and Donald trump has been indicted.
― Infanta Terrible (j.lu), Thursday, 30 March 2023 22:52 (one year ago) link
― obsidian crocogolem (sleeve), Thursday, 30 March 2023 22:55 (one year ago) link
.@ManhattanDA It’s Opening Day, you asshole.— Richard M. Nixon (@dick_nixon) March 30, 2023
― the very juice and sperm of kindness. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 30 March 2023 22:56 (one year ago) link
wtf does that mean
― obsidian crocogolem (sleeve), Thursday, 30 March 2023 22:56 (one year ago) link
The "Nixon" Twitter account had vowed to only talk about baseball today.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 30 March 2023 22:57 (one year ago) link
ok lol at the Sky News live feed of Mar A Lago with the flag at half mast
― nashwan, Thursday, 30 March 2023 23:15 (one year ago) link
pic.twitter.com/3mGeW1QmJf— Alvin Bragg (@ManhattanDA) March 30, 2023
― lag∞n, Thursday, 30 March 2023 23:20 (one year ago) link
What she asked of me at the end of the dayPol-Pot would have blushed
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 30 March 2023 23:24 (one year ago) link
Daily Show tweeted "Congratulations to Donald Trump on finally getting a majority of the vote."
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 30 March 2023 23:37 (one year ago) link
ouch, that's good
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 30 March 2023 23:39 (one year ago) link
"ladies and gentlemen, president ham sandwich"
― liberal with a capital LIE (Hunt3r), Thursday, 30 March 2023 23:58 (one year ago) link
I like how in the middle of his outrage at the "radical left" he still manages to get in a DeSantis dig.
― nickn, Friday, 31 March 2023 00:01 (one year ago) link
DeSantis should just drop out of the Presidential race now.
― papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 31 March 2023 00:04 (one year ago) link
Costa knows his stuff/has good sources -- this isn't surprising news but I'm sure there's more going on than we know:
Sources familiar with the investigation tell CBS tonight that Bragg has some documents that have been uncovered during the probe but are not yet known to the public/been reported, both financial records and communications between key figures… will use these as well as testimony— Robert Costa (@costareports) March 30, 2023
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 31 March 2023 00:09 (one year ago) link
Dick pics Trump sent Stormy
― papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 31 March 2023 00:10 (one year ago) link
the pee tape
― lag∞n, Friday, 31 March 2023 00:11 (one year ago) link
i'm hearing it's confirmed it's the tape we've been waiting for
― Clay, Friday, 31 March 2023 00:13 (one year ago) link
If it’s what I think it is I love it!
― henry s, Friday, 31 March 2023 00:14 (one year ago) link
I don’t know what I think it is, I’ve just wanted to use that one for a while.
34 counts, reportedly?
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 31 March 2023 00:43 (one year ago) link
maybe fake news?
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 31 March 2023 00:44 (one year ago) link
lol, CNN headline
Haberman: Trump advisers in 'something of shock'• The notable legal clouds that continue to hang over Trump in 2023
― obsidian crocogolem (sleeve), Friday, 31 March 2023 00:45 (one year ago) link
CNN reporting "more than 30" xp
But do we know if he’s increasingly isolated?
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Friday, 31 March 2023 00:57 (one year ago) link
"These Thugs" - dog whistle for the racists, coming in loud & clear
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 31 March 2023 00:58 (one year ago) link
I’m very surprised he isn’t using his reinstated Twitter account tonight.
― treeship., Friday, 31 March 2023 01:09 (one year ago) link
oh man lol he shd do it for the good of the nation
― lag∞n, Friday, 31 March 2023 01:12 (one year ago) link
A week ago a video circulated of a lunatic harassing a family on a New York subway. He hurled racial slurs (the family was white) and threatened them. Alvin Bragg thinks that man should walk free and Donald Trump should go to jail for a fake misdemeanor. It’s despicable.— J.D. Vance (@JDVance1) March 30, 2023
(The family was white)
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Friday, 31 March 2023 01:21 (one year ago) link
gonna be in NYC next week, kind of tempted by the circus...
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 31 March 2023 01:26 (one year ago) link
as long as there's a crime happening somewhere in New York City, it needs to take higher priority than anything done by the ex-president
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Friday, 31 March 2023 01:27 (one year ago) link
the dumbest possible take
"The law applies to everyone equally" no it doesn't! It never has! This is a terrible time to try to change that! If we're going to start applying the law to everyone equally can we please start with Wall St CEOs or, like, reduce the crack/cocaine sentencing disparity?— Laura Jedeed (@LauraJedeed) March 30, 2023
― papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 31 March 2023 01:58 (one year ago) link
lol that thread is so bad
― lag∞n, Friday, 31 March 2023 02:03 (one year ago) link
how about we start with Donald Trump and then move on to all that
― frogbs, Friday, 31 March 2023 02:03 (one year ago) link
thats a big who cares from me, also just clearly not gonna happen
"It's not frivolous bullshit, he broke the law" but in a really stupid way though, does anyone really feel like paying a porn star to shut up with campaign funds is a serious offense? Serious enough to open the door for Republican DAs to indict Obama for anything they can find?— Laura Jedeed (@LauraJedeed) March 30, 2023
― lag∞n, Friday, 31 March 2023 02:07 (one year ago) link
Remember, if they can belatedly indict The Crime Guy for one of his many, many obvious and highly public crimes, they could do the same thing to you.— David Roth (@david_j_roth) March 30, 2023
― lag∞n, Friday, 31 March 2023 02:09 (one year ago) link
look its been hinted at above but my understanding is that the actual crime would be more of a misdemeanor and is past the statute of limitations anyway, so the fact that he's being indicted on 34 counts hints there's a bit more going on here
― frogbs, Friday, 31 March 2023 02:10 (one year ago) link
yeah why dont we wait and see what hes charged with before deciding if its bullshit
― lag∞n, Friday, 31 March 2023 02:12 (one year ago) link
but yea the Republican response to this has been pathetic and incredibly dumb given that A) nobody knows what's in the indictment and B) he's almost certain to face several more indictments for much more serious crimes
― frogbs, Friday, 31 March 2023 02:13 (one year ago) link
I don't blame Republicans for their response, tbh, they're doing exactly what they have to do politically.
Centrists and supposed libs like the TNR contributor there are just fucking morons.
― papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 31 March 2023 02:34 (one year ago) link
that Jedeed thread is impressive in its idiocy
― hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Friday, 31 March 2023 02:35 (one year ago) link
"but if we arrest mobsters, they might retaliate!"
Gallows humor aside, this indictment is a disaster obviously. I'm in shock they actually went forward with this— Matt Taibbi (@mtaibbi) March 31, 2023
― the very juice and sperm of kindness. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 31 March 2023 09:28 (one year ago) link
Ah, Matt. On the wrong side of every argument for as long as I can remember.
― dicbo=v2-ubswizzb&hrt (stevie), Friday, 31 March 2023 09:46 (one year ago) link
He must feel very proud when he looks upon the long stream of replies by absolute morons, schmucks, shitheads, bigots, racists, homophobes, gun-fuckers, toadies, wannabe-henchmen, power-worshippers and cowards who agree with him that people who are powerful and have money shouldn't be investigated or punished for crimes.
― dicbo=v2-ubswizzb&hrt (stevie), Friday, 31 March 2023 09:50 (one year ago) link
What a dope
If presidents think they will be chased into jail under thin pretexts as ex-presidents, they’ll try even harder to never leave office. This is how autocracies are born. https://t.co/HGM1rAbHA3— Matt Taibbi (@mtaibbi) March 31, 2023
― Number None, Friday, 31 March 2023 11:49 (one year ago) link
Roman History 101— Rob Passarella (@robpas) March 31, 2023
― lag∞n, Friday, 31 March 2023 11:52 (one year ago) link
republicans have already tried to criminalize rival politicians. it was trump who led the chants of "lock her up," it was republicans who led the sham benghazi hearings.
― treeship., Friday, 31 March 2023 12:05 (one year ago) link
even harder
― bulb after bulb, Friday, 31 March 2023 12:08 (one year ago) link
Never forget; "The first Rutles album took 20 minutes to record. The second took even longer ..."— Mark Kermode (@KermodeMovie) February 27, 2012
― Little Big Man Yells at Red Cloud (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 31 March 2023 12:41 (one year ago) link
Trump Executed https://t.co/UcEfuL0C4C pic.twitter.com/W3WNxih4ud— The Onion (@TheOnion) March 31, 2023
― dicbo=v2-ubswizzb&hrt (stevie), Friday, 31 March 2023 13:21 (one year ago) link
Lolol
They had two years to indict Trump before he became the presumptive Republican nominee. He's off limits until the election is over. If the charges are that strong they can indict then if he loses.— Dave Explains (@DaveExplainsWhy) March 31, 2023
― hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Friday, 31 March 2023 13:21 (one year ago) link
Man, you can just rob a bank on Monday, declare you're running for President on Tuesday and book, you're immune!
― hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Friday, 31 March 2023 13:22 (one year ago) link
The costa thing about there being unreported evidence might be relate for this which broke a couple hours before the indictment and got lost in the shuffle as a result
https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/30/politics/karen-mcdougal-trump-grand-jury/index.html
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 31 March 2023 13:26 (one year ago) link
nice of so many prominent Republican lawmakers and journalists to offer their hot takes before they even know what's in the indictment
― frogbs, Friday, 31 March 2023 13:32 (one year ago) link
If presidents think they will be chased into jail under thin pretexts as ex-presidents, they’ll try even harder to never leave office.
Hopefully we'll never find out what it's like to have a defeated President try hard not to leave office
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Friday, 31 March 2023 13:58 (one year ago) link
― hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Friday, 31 March 2023 13:59 (one year ago) link
if we arrest the GOP, they might start doing things to subvert democracy and disenfranchise voters!
This take is literally "We can't prosecute Trump because then Presidents will act like Trump."
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Friday, 31 March 2023 13:59 (one year ago) link
this take is literally "Hi I'm Matt Taibbi give me money and i'll say what u want"
― hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Friday, 31 March 2023 14:02 (one year ago) link
it's been a Stormy week for Donald Trump haha
― ꙮ (map), Friday, 31 March 2023 15:10 (one year ago) link
it really does set a chilling precedent for people who have spent their entire adult lives defrauding the universe— Lousy Smarch Madness (@scratchbomb) March 30, 2023
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 31 March 2023 15:29 (one year ago) link
i wonder what @daveexplains thinks when he hears people making fun of mansplainers who say actually too much. it guess it either makes dave bitterly angry or it just doesn't register at all
― treeship
yeah...i don't want to look one up and i definitely don't want to make it up, but a handy rebuttal would just be a 4 hour long compilation of all the times trump and his dipshit fans have chanted "lock her up". nothing else, just that
― it's a new day in the international landscape (z_tbd), Friday, 31 March 2023 15:37 (one year ago) link
but of course rebutting or responding at all is playing exactly into their horrible game
― it's a new day in the international landscape (z_tbd), Friday, 31 March 2023 15:38 (one year ago) link
Didn't someone on Fox recently claim the "lock her up" chant was just a joke or some other BS? True bully asshole excuse, "come on, I was just kidding, lighten up ... "
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 31 March 2023 15:41 (one year ago) link
it really is funny that the entire GOP is treating Trump like he's Nelson Mandela right now when the thing he got busted for is illegally paying off a porn star
― frogbs, Friday, 31 March 2023 16:33 (one year ago) link
on the local news they showed pro-Trump protestors on the roads outside Mar-a-Lago. it was a tiny handful of them and it was pretty hilarious. one of them said "hope to see thousands of us out here...hopefully pretty soon"
― hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Friday, 31 March 2023 16:39 (one year ago) link
they should storm the place, to make sure he's safe.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 31 March 2023 16:41 (one year ago) link
yea he's gonna call on people to protest in New York and I bet there will be 3x as many reporters as actual protestors
― frogbs, Friday, 31 March 2023 16:43 (one year ago) link
GOP is treating Trump like he's Nelson Mandela
Can't wait for the star-studded benefit concert
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 31 March 2023 16:49 (one year ago) link
maybe several sympathetic bands will write a tribute album with all original songs
such as Aaron Lewis with "If Loving Titty is Against the Law (Lock Me Up)"
― hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Friday, 31 March 2023 16:50 (one year ago) link
The Washington Nationals have the opportunity to do the funniest thing in MLB history during the presidential mascot race on Saturday— The Chiefsaholic Innocence Project (@aryasometimes) March 30, 2023
― ꙮ (map), Friday, 31 March 2023 16:50 (one year ago) link
it funny that his primary opponents are defending him it makes no sense how do they hope to win
― lag∞n, Friday, 31 March 2023 16:51 (one year ago) link
they indict trump and then this happens immediately https://t.co/RGzgsKkOcP— Mr. American Neom (@raaleh) March 31, 2023
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 31 March 2023 16:52 (one year ago) link
― "The pudding incident?" (Boring, Maryland), Friday, 31 March 2023 17:45 (one year ago) link
someone needs to step up and start throwing bows cmon mix it up i want to see some scuffling
― lag∞n, Friday, 31 March 2023 17:49 (one year ago) link
because the gop is the party of trump and still is. they emulate his language, even, and they know that vehement opposition to trump gets to you where liz cheney is. their only hope is to emulate him and hope that somehow trump can't run because he's in jail and that all of his dogshit supporters will somehow turn to them as the heir apparent. and yes, it makes no sense, and they have no chance of winning. there are no ideas other than cruelty and there haven't been for a long time
― it's a new day in the international landscape (z_tbd), Friday, 31 March 2023 17:55 (one year ago) link
if they were serious about emulating him they would be sending passive aggressive tweets wishing him well in his serious legal matter that involves a porn star who said horrible things about his weird dick
― lag∞n, Friday, 31 March 2023 17:57 (one year ago) link
^they lack the lifetime of practise Trump has accrued at that kind of shit
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 31 March 2023 17:58 (one year ago) link
theyre all such fn stiffs its shameful
― lag∞n, Friday, 31 March 2023 17:59 (one year ago) link
“Political Persecution,” Trump alleged in his statement.“Political persecution,” parroted Reps. Diana Harshbarger (Tenn.), Josh Brecheen (Okla.), Claudia Tenney (N.Y.), and Paul Gosar (Ariz.).“Blatant Election Interference,” Trump announced.“This is unprecedented election interference,” echoed GOP conference chair Elise Stefanik (N.Y.).“An attempt to interfere in our Presidential election,” echoed House Speaker Kevin McCarthy (Calif.).“Witch hunt,” complained Trump.“Witch hunt,” repeated Reps. George Santos (N.Y.), Lauren Boebert (Colo.), Ralph Norman (S.C.), Matt Gaetz (Fla.) and more, including House Majority Whip Tom Emmer (Minn.).“Weaponizing our justice system,” Trump inveighed.“Weaponizing,” chorused Majority Leader Steve Scalise and Reps. David Rouzer (N.C.), Austin Scott (Ga.), Rich McCormick (Ga.) and more.Trump blamed George Soros. Reps. Wesley Hunt (Tex.), Mike Johnson (La.), Harshbarger, Gosar and Sens. Rick Scott (Fla.) and Ron Johnson (Wis.) blamed Soros.They aped Trump in other ways, too.In their vulgarity:“Enough of this witch hunt bulls---,” tweeted Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (Ga.)“This is complete and utter bulls---,” asserted Rep. Brian Mast (Fla.).In using ALL CAPS:“WITCH HUNT!” screamed Rep. Ronny Jackson (Tex.) and “Alvin Bragg is a NATIONAL EMBARRASSMENT.”In demanding vengeance:“Hunter Biden: Call your lawyers,” suggested Rep. Darrell Issa (Calif.).“The House of Representatives will hold Alvin Bragg and his unprecedented abuse of power to account,” declared McCarthy.“When Trump wins, THESE PEOPLE WILL PAY!!” tweeted Jackson.In voicing deep-state conspiracy theories:“The Regime occupying our country and systematically killing America is most afraid of President Donald J. Trump,” warned Gosar.And in stoking paranoia among the unstable:“If they can come for him, they can come for anyone,” tweeted Rep. Andy Biggs (Ariz.).
“Political persecution,” parroted Reps. Diana Harshbarger (Tenn.), Josh Brecheen (Okla.), Claudia Tenney (N.Y.), and Paul Gosar (Ariz.).
“Blatant Election Interference,” Trump announced.
“This is unprecedented election interference,” echoed GOP conference chair Elise Stefanik (N.Y.).
“An attempt to interfere in our Presidential election,” echoed House Speaker Kevin McCarthy (Calif.).
“Witch hunt,” complained Trump.
“Witch hunt,” repeated Reps. George Santos (N.Y.), Lauren Boebert (Colo.), Ralph Norman (S.C.), Matt Gaetz (Fla.) and more, including House Majority Whip Tom Emmer (Minn.).
“Weaponizing our justice system,” Trump inveighed.
“Weaponizing,” chorused Majority Leader Steve Scalise and Reps. David Rouzer (N.C.), Austin Scott (Ga.), Rich McCormick (Ga.) and more.
Trump blamed George Soros. Reps. Wesley Hunt (Tex.), Mike Johnson (La.), Harshbarger, Gosar and Sens. Rick Scott (Fla.) and Ron Johnson (Wis.) blamed Soros.
They aped Trump in other ways, too.
In their vulgarity:
“Enough of this witch hunt bulls---,” tweeted Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (Ga.)
“This is complete and utter bulls---,” asserted Rep. Brian Mast (Fla.).
In using ALL CAPS:
“WITCH HUNT!” screamed Rep. Ronny Jackson (Tex.) and “Alvin Bragg is a NATIONAL EMBARRASSMENT.”
In demanding vengeance:
“Hunter Biden: Call your lawyers,” suggested Rep. Darrell Issa (Calif.).
“The House of Representatives will hold Alvin Bragg and his unprecedented abuse of power to account,” declared McCarthy.
“When Trump wins, THESE PEOPLE WILL PAY!!” tweeted Jackson.
In voicing deep-state conspiracy theories:
“The Regime occupying our country and systematically killing America is most afraid of President Donald J. Trump,” warned Gosar.
And in stoking paranoia among the unstable:
“If they can come for him, they can come for anyone,” tweeted Rep. Andy Biggs (Ariz.).
― it's a new day in the international landscape (z_tbd), Friday, 31 March 2023 18:02 (one year ago) link
we should arrest more Republicans imo
― hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Friday, 31 March 2023 18:04 (one year ago) link
Is the Trump indictment Biden's Katrina?— New York Times Pitchbot (@DougJBalloon) March 31, 2023
― the very juice and sperm of kindness. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 31 March 2023 18:14 (one year ago) link
WITCH CAUGHT
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Friday, 31 March 2023 18:21 (one year ago) link
because this all but ensures him the gop nomination and they would all like to be his running mate or in his cabinet.
― Thus Sang Freud, Friday, 31 March 2023 18:28 (one year ago) link
maybe if all his opponents rally around him instead of attacking a huge fuckin weakness
― lag∞n, Friday, 31 March 2023 18:32 (one year ago) link
oh for sure he'll be the nominee -- martyrs make great nominees
― the very juice and sperm of kindness. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 31 March 2023 18:33 (one year ago) link
hell be the nominee because the gop cant produce anyone with any game, his supporters are willing to give up at him look at the attendance at these protests, but theres just no one to grab the ring
― lag∞n, Friday, 31 March 2023 18:42 (one year ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/93dlDpx.jpg
― the very juice and sperm of kindness. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 31 March 2023 18:47 (one year ago) link
There’s just nothing else for them to talk about, except about how bad trump has it. They have a problem of not actually having an idea. There is actually no reason for them to be a leader. What are they going to do, talk about how their economic plan which is just to lower taxes for rich people and weaken regulations, again? The only ideas are punishment for people they’re afraid of, and that’s trump’s domain
― it's a new day in the international landscape (z_tbd), Friday, 31 March 2023 18:47 (one year ago) link
i'm sure the viewership for this was miniscule.
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2023/03/30/jason_whitlock_i_never_voted_before_but_the_left_has_made_me_hardcore_maga_ready_for_whatever_is_next.html
― Thus Sang Freud, Friday, 31 March 2023 18:54 (one year ago) link
They don't like our Judeo-Christian founding. That's why they don't like the Founding Fathers. That's why they want to overthrow the constitution that is laced with biblical values and biblical principles. They want a Marxist, godless, communist country. Plain and simple. Clear as day. With the alphabet mafia. This LGBTQ alphabet mafia in control
― the very juice and sperm of kindness. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 31 March 2023 18:55 (one year ago) link
The Alphabet Mafia.
"weaponizing"
like that is a bad thing? I thought Republicans love weapons. Just look at their family Christmas cards. Weapons, weapons, weapons.
― she loves me like a rock lobster (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 31 March 2023 18:59 (one year ago) link
They want a Marxist, godless, communist country
Hell yeah!
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 31 March 2023 19:02 (one year ago) link
Jason Whitlock works for The Blaze. is he really going to claim he's never voted before?
― hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Friday, 31 March 2023 19:03 (one year ago) link
I thought they would go after us for porn shaming
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Friday, 31 March 2023 19:04 (one year ago) link
lol at spinning this like this indictment finally spurred him to action, he was hardcore MAGA before this indictment, he's had a column with the Blaze the last two years, called the left "Satanic" in 2021 on Tucker Carlson's show, and he made racist comments about Jeremy Lin when he was a sports broadcaster
― hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Friday, 31 March 2023 19:06 (one year ago) link
I will never get tired of that gob-smacked, stricken expression of Tucker's whenever he's in split-screen.
― the very juice and sperm of kindness. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 31 March 2023 19:15 (one year ago) link
perpetually being stung by a bee
― hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Friday, 31 March 2023 19:20 (one year ago) link
look folks we have been through this before. he was impeached once and every single person on FOX News (and several on ILX!) claimed it basically guaranteed his re-election. then he was impeached again and the same people argued it was only gonna make him stronger. instead he lost re-election and the entire MAGA movement got embarrased in the midterms. the GOP still has to rally around him because, as Zach mentions, they actually have no ideas, and despite retaking the House campaigning on jobs, inflation, and education, and they have actually put forth exactly zero bills to address those issues. there's another reason of course, which is that any Republican who goes against Trump winds up being hated by everybody. Liz Cheney lost her job pointing out what was obvious to everyone. Jeff Flake was forced into retirement. James Comey's legacy is throwing the election to Trump and being hated by every single Republican anyway. you really don't wanna be in that spot.
― frogbs, Friday, 31 March 2023 19:21 (one year ago) link
with the eeyores in public and on social media all saying he's been given Popeye's spinach, all these dudes want is clout, because it's always a moving goalpost.
"we impeached him, now we just gave him the White House in 2020""oh, ok, he lost, but he only lost because of the pandemic, no Republican will ever lose again. and we still don't have the Senate""ok so we have the Senate now, but it's just 50/50, and we're now fucked in the midterms in 2022 thanks to this and Biden - when the GOP will have both chambers.""ok so we kept the Senate and only barely lost the House. this only happened because of the abortion ruling and once that is distant news, we're back to being fucked".
none of these people actually gaf about is being right and being the first person to call it, and give little fucks about the actual scenario on the ground, and the only treatment these trolls should be given is being shat on, often, by someone who knows how
― hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Friday, 31 March 2023 19:30 (one year ago) link
It's all about who has the hottest take.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 31 March 2023 19:31 (one year ago) link
I mean the central tenet of the MAGA movement right now is just being wrong about absolutely fucking everything. this loser couldn't even get the day he was gonna be indicted right. I don't care what anyone says having the main media story being about how you're about to get arrested for 2 weeks, and then ACTUALLY getting arrested, is not a great campaign strategy. look I could be wrong about this but I really do think he could've cruised to re-election just by being a little less weird and abrasive. this shit he's doing doesn't really work!
― frogbs, Friday, 31 March 2023 19:35 (one year ago) link
I'd be tempted to feel sorry for him if he weren't such a colossal asshole.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 31 March 2023 19:36 (one year ago) link
https://thumbs.gfycat.com/AridPresentFeline-size_restricted.gif
― fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Friday, 31 March 2023 19:48 (one year ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXtBsikiY50
― Little Big Man Yells at Red Cloud (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 31 March 2023 19:51 (one year ago) link
there's a group called the New York Young Republican Club. here's what they have to say
“President Trump embodies the American people — our psyche from id to super-ego — as does no other figure; his soul is totally bonded with our core values and emotions, and he is our total and indisputable champion,” the statement reads. “This tremendous connection threatens the established order.”
― it's a new day in the international landscape (z_tbd), Friday, 31 March 2023 20:21 (one year ago) link
this shit he's doing doesn't really work!
point taken. what's truly remarkable is the fact that it worked as well as it did for decades. after all, he was able to move up from grifting his way through a whole series of borderline or outright fraudulent business ventures, from failed casinos, to selling Trump-branded steaks, water, 'college diplomas' and golf resorts, to becoming a successful reality show host, then he hit the BONANZA and won the 2016 election while getting three million fewer votes than his opponent, being impeached by the House and acquitted by the Senate, twice.
all this has taught him that he can ride the back of the tiger forever and never have to dismount and be eaten by it. he'll never ever change his modus operandi. he trusts it to deliver because so often it has.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 31 March 2023 20:22 (one year ago) link
The New York Young Republican Club also wished to share a special message with Trump himself
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1EOdbPlbKU4
― hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Friday, 31 March 2023 20:24 (one year ago) link
he was impeached once and every single person on FOX News (and several on ILX!) claimed it basically guaranteed his re-election. then he was impeached again and the same people argued it was only gonna make him stronger. instead he lost re-election and the entire MAGA movement got embarrased in the midterms. t
This is what I have to tell the Dems down here with their croakings of doom.
― the very juice and sperm of kindness. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 31 March 2023 20:28 (one year ago) link
always amazing to remember he bankrupted a business where "the house always wins"
― it's a new day in the international landscape (z_tbd), Friday, 31 March 2023 20:28 (one year ago) link
see also: Elon Musk, where public perception went from "he's a supergenius and visionary" to "ok he's kinda weird but must still be good at some things" to "wait how fucked up is this country"
― frogbs, Friday, 31 March 2023 20:34 (one year ago) link
he was right about being arraigned on tuesday.
― Thus Sang Freud, Friday, 31 March 2023 20:39 (one year ago) link
"we impeached him, now we just gave him the White House in 2020"
this talking point is so fucking dumb. literally zero people who weren't going to vote for Trump will vote for him now as a reaction to the impeachment. absolute fuckin zero. I guess you could argue some people who might have stayed home will be motivated to vote but I really, really doubt it.
― J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Friday, 31 March 2023 20:42 (one year ago) link
More than a week after Donald Trump had angrily predicted — incorrectly and with no specific evidence — that he would be arrested, the former president had grown cautiously optimistic.Advisers had counseled him that a possible indictment by a Manhattan grand jury involving hush-money payments to an adult-film star would not come for some time — if at all — and Trump had even begun joking about “golden handcuffs,” said one person who spoke with him in recent days....But when the indictment came, Trump and his advisers were caught off guard.“It was a surprise to everybody,” said David Urban, a longtime Trump adviser who is not working on his 2024 presidential campaign.Some of his lawyers had been preparing to take a few days off, not expecting any movement for several weeks, said two people familiar with the matter who, like many in Trump’s orbit, spoke on the condition of anonymity to candidly share details of private discussions. Some Trump aides — including adviser Boris Epshteyn, who is taking a leading role on Trump’s legal team — had even begun telling the former president that he would not be indicted at all, people familiar with the comments said.
Advisers had counseled him that a possible indictment by a Manhattan grand jury involving hush-money payments to an adult-film star would not come for some time — if at all — and Trump had even begun joking about “golden handcuffs,” said one person who spoke with him in recent days.
...But when the indictment came, Trump and his advisers were caught off guard.
“It was a surprise to everybody,” said David Urban, a longtime Trump adviser who is not working on his 2024 presidential campaign.
Some of his lawyers had been preparing to take a few days off, not expecting any movement for several weeks, said two people familiar with the matter who, like many in Trump’s orbit, spoke on the condition of anonymity to candidly share details of private discussions. Some Trump aides — including adviser Boris Epshteyn, who is taking a leading role on Trump’s legal team — had even begun telling the former president that he would not be indicted at all, people familiar with the comments said.
is this story true, or is someone just lying for reasons i can't understand? and if it is true, .....wtf, how do these people get in these positions of power without knowing anything at all, ever
― it's a new day in the international landscape (z_tbd), Friday, 31 March 2023 20:47 (one year ago) link
were they telling him he wouldn't be indicted just to make him stop whining like a fucking baby?
― it's a new day in the international landscape (z_tbd), Friday, 31 March 2023 20:49 (one year ago) link
power of positive thinking, etc
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 31 March 2023 20:49 (one year ago) link
it has probably been said on the thread already, but if the thing that brings this fucker down is illegally claiming a payoff to a porn star as a campaign expense then that would be just perfect.
― Camaraderie at Arms Length, Friday, 31 March 2023 20:53 (one year ago) link
sorry, no offense to people on this thread who never thought he would be indicted. i understand the frustration with how he always evades any accountability whatsoever for his actions, and it wouldn't surprise me if he is found not guilty or it's a mistrial or some other bullshit, with the stormy daniels stuff. the atlanta case is much, much stronger for many reasons. but that he would be indicted here was not really in question iirc
― it's a new day in the international landscape (z_tbd), Friday, 31 March 2023 20:55 (one year ago) link
i dunno i guess we all have to wait and see what he is actually charged with, but it is not hard to imagine that people might be persuaded to vote if they don't buy bragg's alleged "novel legal theory" (kristoff) and think this is a political hit job.
― Thus Sang Freud, Friday, 31 March 2023 20:56 (one year ago) link
I want to know what changed in NY. Remember when those two top prosecutors reportedly resigned in protest when Bragg wouldn't act? And then many weeks/months later, I guess a switch got flipped and he did?
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 31 March 2023 20:57 (one year ago) link
yes and one of the prosecutors who resigned wrote a book outlining his own labyrinthene novel legal theory.
― Thus Sang Freud, Friday, 31 March 2023 21:01 (one year ago) link
Though iirc, maybe it had something to do with not getting in the way of James' own state investigation?
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 31 March 2023 21:04 (one year ago) link
Even a potential guilty verdict would not disqualify Trump’s bid for the White House, according to Anna G. Cominsky, a professor at New York Law School, or keep him from serving if he was elected.of course you can be President while not being able to vote
― nashwan, Friday, 31 March 2023 21:07 (one year ago) link
at a 1000-ft level, do we want to be seen as the party that thinks it's cool if presidential elections hinge on whether or not a candidate once had consensual sex ten years ago?
― Thus Sang Freud, Friday, 31 March 2023 21:16 (one year ago) link
countdown to not my party
― it's a new day in the international landscape (z_tbd), Friday, 31 March 2023 21:18 (one year ago) link
Was that the only thing that happened?
― limb tins & cum (gyac), Friday, 31 March 2023 21:18 (one year ago) link
but as for the democratic party, it just doesn't fucking matter what they're "seen" as. no one left of a republican is going to see the democrats like that, and republicans already refer to democrats as marxists with seemingly zero awareness of what words mean. it just doesn't matter
― it's a new day in the international landscape (z_tbd), Friday, 31 March 2023 21:19 (one year ago) link
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, March 31, 2023 3:57 PM (thirty-five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
thought this was a broader investigation into the Trump org and separate from the Stormy Daniels thing
― frogbs, Friday, 31 March 2023 21:35 (one year ago) link
Don't know why
Trump is an indicted guy
Stormy weather
― she loves me like a rock lobster (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 31 March 2023 21:42 (one year ago) link
most of the charges are about business fraud:
JUST IN: Donald Trump faces more than 30 counts related to business fraud in an indictment from a Manhattan grand jury, sources say https://t.co/GMfu9870dQ— CNN (@CNN) March 31, 2023
Of course the GOP is going to find an angle (Stormy Daniels in this case) where they think they can get a rhetorical edge. They're going to do that for anything the other side does, world without end, amen. So what?
― official representative of Roku's Basketshit in at least one alternate u (lukas), Friday, 31 March 2023 21:49 (one year ago) link
― Thus Sang Freud, Friday, March 31, 2023 5:16 PM bookmarkflaglink
Lol GTFO with this, that's not what he was indicted for.
Can we declare a moratorium on further discussion on how bullshit the charges are until THEY'RE UNSEALED???
― hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Friday, 31 March 2023 21:50 (one year ago) link
Lukas otm
need I remind you the 2016 election literally hinged on Anthony Weiner sexting teenagers
― frogbs, Friday, 31 March 2023 21:51 (one year ago) link
And emails
― hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Friday, 31 March 2023 21:51 (one year ago) link
Tbf I don't know if there are naked people in the emails
please
― she loves me like a rock lobster (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 31 March 2023 22:12 (one year ago) link
peemails
― she loves me like a rock lobster (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 31 March 2023 22:13 (one year ago) link
The two modern Presidents this would have cost us are Trump and Bill Clinton so... yeah, cool.
― papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 31 March 2023 23:06 (one year ago) link
I can't believe I have to point this out but the crime is the misuse of funds, not the consensual sex
― obsidian crocogolem (sleeve), Friday, 31 March 2023 23:08 (one year ago) link
do we want to be seen as the party that thinks it's cool if presidential elections hinge on whether or not a candidate once had consensual sex ten years ago?
this needs some clarification. just for starters, who are the "we" being addressed, are "we" really a "party", how do "we" as a party have the thoughts you attribute to us, and who is doing the seeing of us. Later we can get into the hermaneutics of what is cool and the whole sex aspect of your rather maze-like query.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 31 March 2023 23:21 (one year ago) link
xp There are 30+ charges to address, Stormy payment may be the absolute least of them. And agreed, until the charges are made public prognostication is useless.
― Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Friday, 31 March 2023 23:24 (one year ago) link
will be pretty funny if theres some very bad shit in there
― lag∞n, Friday, 31 March 2023 23:29 (one year ago) link
we being the left-leaning folks who populate ilx, and who i think it's safe to assume largely vote for democrats vice republicans. as for who is doing the seeing i think it's mostly the swing voters i have in mind -- i.e. the few who swing elections one way or another. the relatively sane ones, in particular. the ones whos party affiliations aren't etched in stone. but to escape from the maze, what i am really saying is: if all those 30 counts of fraud turn out to be misdemeanor-like efforts to hide his payment of extortion money, those relatively sane swing voters might reasonably think that's a.o.k. behavior if the alternative is yet another sordid and trivial sidetrack from actual important election issues. like, is "rule of law" in this case the be-all and end-all? i would think, rather, that ensuring trump doesn't get reelected should be the be-all and end-all. in which case (and this, seemingly, is my opinion and no one else's here, but so be it) this court case is a really, really stupid way to go about it. i could be totally proved wrong on tuesday when he reveals his airtight case, but that's the way it looks to me at the moment.
― Thus Sang Freud, Friday, 31 March 2023 23:32 (one year ago) link
swing voters!
― lag∞n, Friday, 31 March 2023 23:36 (one year ago) link
xp you seem to have forgotten the other court cases
― obsidian crocogolem (sleeve), Friday, 31 March 2023 23:36 (one year ago) link
You heard it here, because of swing voters laws no longer exist
― hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Friday, 31 March 2023 23:37 (one year ago) link
i have not forgotten them. i am talking about this one in specific.
― Thus Sang Freud, Friday, 31 March 2023 23:37 (one year ago) link
Jon Stewart said it best recently
“He could become president anyway. Fareed, we either have the rule of law or we have no rule of law,” Stewart said. “The rule of law does not take into account if that might make you a martyr to somebody.”
― hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Friday, 31 March 2023 23:38 (one year ago) link
we certainly do not have the rule of law but its worth trying idk
― lag∞n, Friday, 31 March 2023 23:39 (one year ago) link
The only way to guarantee no Trump presidency at this point is for him to drop dead, and no actions taken should be done so with WHAT ABOUT THE UNDECIDED VOTERS in mind
― hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Friday, 31 March 2023 23:41 (one year ago) link
Xpost
what i am really saying is: if all those 30 counts of fraud turn out to be misdemeanor-like efforts to hide his payment of extortion money, those relatively sane swing voters might reasonably think that's a.o.k. behavior if the alternative is yet another sordid and trivial sidetrack from actual important election issues.
we have no idea what's really in those 30+ indictments. your concerns are, at this point, entirely imaginary. but I think it is a near certainty that however all this plays out, the opinions espoused on ilx will have no measurable effect of the outcome of the next US presidential election. so, rest easy.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 31 March 2023 23:44 (one year ago) link
haha well that's true, but also remember this is a public forum so if the "others" want a good view of how "we" think they just have to look here.
― Thus Sang Freud, Friday, 31 March 2023 23:45 (one year ago) link
It's not even the job of prosecutors or a grand jury to "think of how people might vote".
Comey sure didn't care
― hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Friday, 31 March 2023 23:47 (one year ago) link
i agree it shouldn't be, but bragg campaigned by bragging about how many times he's sued trump, so he might not meet that standard.
― Thus Sang Freud, Friday, 31 March 2023 23:54 (one year ago) link
The only way to guarantee no Trump presidency at this point is for him to drop dead
Aside from him being dead, the best part of this would be Don Jr. trying to run and eating shit.
― papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 31 March 2023 23:57 (one year ago) link
Next Trump Up
― hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Friday, 31 March 2023 23:58 (one year ago) link
It should be remembered that Michael Cohen served time in jail over crimes connected with this investigation even though he was a cooperating witness. The indictments handed down against Cohen clearly implicated another "individual 1" in the same crimes (who obviously was Trump). iow, the evidence against Trump was just as compelling as that against Cohen, but the prosecutor at the time chose not to seek indictments against "individual 1", undoubtedly because the criminal was the chief executive of the US government. If anything about this case was driven solely by "politics" that qualifies, and it tilted in Trump's favor.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Saturday, 1 April 2023 00:02 (one year ago) link
Can anyone even slightly open to the idea of voting for a second dose of Donald Trump as president be described as "relatively sane"?
― but also fuck you (unperson), Saturday, 1 April 2023 00:05 (one year ago) link
unless one wants to dismiss nearly half the country as not sane. i know we joke, but calling half the country insane is not a good look. michael cohen pled to eight counts, the least of which (3 i think?) were related to the hush money.
― Thus Sang Freud, Saturday, 1 April 2023 00:53 (one year ago) link
Lol are u Matt Taibbi
― hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Saturday, 1 April 2023 00:54 (one year ago) link
does he say stuff like that? no i'm not.
― Thus Sang Freud, Saturday, 1 April 2023 00:56 (one year ago) link
unless one wants to dismiss nearly half the country as not sane. i know we joke, but calling half the country insane is not a good look.
Well, first of all, we're not talking about "nearly half the country"; we're talking about 40% (max) of registered voters, who are less than 50% of adult Americans. So we're probably actually talking about 17-20% of the population. And no, I am not joking. If they are still willing to vote for Donald Trump to be president, after having already had him as president for four years and seeing what he brought to the job (racism, corruption, incompetence, et fucking cetera), they are either insane — in the sense that maybe they're suffering from dementia or some other organic brain dysfunction — or actively evil. And it doesn't really matter which, because the practical effect is the same.
Donald Trump is not a traditional "guy whose politics I disagree with". He's a criminal and a psychopath, and if you actively support him, you're a piece of shit. And if you don't currently actively support him, but you can be convinced to vote for a criminal and a psychopath as president, you are yourself fucked in the head. This idea you seem to have about giving people the benefit of the doubt, and assuming they're reasonable and rational actors — you need to let go of that shit. We don't live in that country anymore.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Saturday, 1 April 2023 01:00 (one year ago) link
I can't even imagine giving benefit of the doubt to voting for a guy who proposed a Muslim ban, then tried to enact one his first month in office
― hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Saturday, 1 April 2023 01:03 (one year ago) link
insane is the wrong framing, I'd go with 'complicit with evil' same as it ever was.
― papal hotwife (milo z), Saturday, 1 April 2023 01:20 (one year ago) link
Otm
(Four horsemen amassing)
― hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Saturday, 1 April 2023 01:21 (one year ago) link
it is not hard to imagine that people might be persuaded to vote if they don't buy bragg's alleged "novel legal theory" (kristoff) and think this is a political hit job
I don't think this describes any actual people (except for uh jason whitlock)
― symsymsym, Saturday, 1 April 2023 01:44 (one year ago) link
I like how Josh Marshall is thinking about this
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/how-to-think-about-the-trump-indictments-and-find-inner-peace
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Saturday, 1 April 2023 01:49 (one year ago) link
are there any previous examples of voters turning out because candidates are under criminal investigation? or does this supposed phenomenon only benefit donald trump?
― symsymsym, Saturday, 1 April 2023 01:49 (one year ago) link
― obsidian crocogolem (sleeve), Saturday, 1 April 2023 01:54 (one year ago) link
could maybe make a case for marion barry
― mookieproof, Saturday, 1 April 2023 02:26 (one year ago) link
feel like the right overestimates how conservative the population is, they'll vote for them because they're bigots or because they love guns or just really dislike liberals, but I don't think a whole lot of them are willing to go as far as "there is a nationwide conspiracy to steal the election and throw Trump in jail". even if they say that shit sometimes I think deep down they kinda think the news is real. I mean a hell of a lot of them got vaccinated.
― frogbs, Saturday, 1 April 2023 02:43 (one year ago) link
catering to the far right serves their purposes, though, in the huge amount of the country where elections are not in doubt. many of them, maybe most, can be content with dominating their districts, or entire states, in the case of gop trifectas. if the senate or the presidency is democratic, well, that's a bummer, but they can still make sure that no significant legislation is passed, the supreme court and much of the federal judicial system is in their favor, and they can exist almost entirely in a rightwing media vacuum that will not only tolerate their bullshit but also reward them for more extreme views
― it's a new day in the international landscape (z_tbd), Saturday, 1 April 2023 02:56 (one year ago) link
gop politicians in these horrible places could theoretically try to be good people and not do things that actively endanger the lives of people. but that's not what their loudest idiots want, so they run the risk of getting primary'd by someone who is even more fucked up
― it's a new day in the international landscape (z_tbd), Saturday, 1 April 2023 02:58 (one year ago) link
yeah I just mean in general none of this shit is gonna "awaken a sleeping giant" that's gonna let Trump roll to the presidency again, that giant is already awake and perpetually fired up. but I think the last few election cycles have shown that going absolutely insane just might drive out turnout on the other side. I think that Josh Marshall blog summed it up pretty well.
― frogbs, Saturday, 1 April 2023 03:09 (one year ago) link
Yeah, it's really bizarre that not one Washington journalist is willing/mentally able to accept the idea that tons of people really fucking hate Donald Trump and by extension the Republican Party. I mean, three straight elections now and these dipshits are still out there going, "This is likely going to fire up his base and might be risky for Democrats!" No, his base is not an electoral majority, and the people who hate "his base" are.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Saturday, 1 April 2023 03:58 (one year ago) link
it's more than his base though. i would never dream of voting for trump in a million years but when i read these words in the nytimes it smells of "guy searching for a way to indict trump" not "rule of law being upheld."
One year ago this week, the Manhattan district attorney’s investigation into Donald J. Trump appeared to be dead in the water.
The two leaders of the investigation had recently resigned after the new district attorney, Alvin L. Bragg, decided not to charge Mr. Trump at that point. Amid a fierce backlash to his decision — and a brutal start to his tenure — Mr. Bragg insisted that the investigation was not over. But a disbelieving media questioned why, if the effort was still moving forward, there were few signs of it.
“Unless y’all are great poker players,” Mr. Bragg told The New York Times in an early April 2022 interview, “you don’t know what we’re doing.”
What they were doing, new interviews show, was going back to square one, poring over the reams of evidence that had already been collected by his predecessor.
For a time, their efforts were haphazard as they examined a wide range of Mr. Trump’s business practices, including whether he had lied about his net worth, which was the focus of the investigation when Mr. Bragg had declined to seek an indictment. But by July, Mr. Bragg had decided to assign several additional prosecutors to pursue one particular strand that struck him as promising: a hush-money payment made on Mr. Trump’s behalf to a porn star during the final days of the 2016 presidential campaign.
On Thursday, Mr. Trump was indicted on that strand. He is expected to surrender to the authorities in Manhattan on Tuesday and face arraignment on more than two dozen charges, which will be unveiled at that time.
This account of Mr. Bragg’s decision to revive the investigation and point it toward the hush-money arrangement, based on interviews with about a dozen people familiar with the matter, reveals the circuitous, sometimes uncertain road that led to the first criminal charges against a former American president.
Along the way, a key internal skeptic of the investigation became one of its champions; Mr. Bragg shook up the Trump team and hired an experienced lawyer away from the Justice Department to help lead it; and he ultimately found new promise in a key witness he had once disregarded as unreliable. The district attorney was also emboldened late last year when his prosecutors won a conviction of Mr. Trump’s company in an unrelated tax case.
― Thus Sang Freud, Saturday, 1 April 2023 10:23 (one year ago) link
"promising"
― Thus Sang Freud, Saturday, 1 April 2023 10:28 (one year ago) link
we frame it "nobody is above the law," they frame it "they can and will come after you too," and i think that will be a more successful framing.
― Thus Sang Freud, Saturday, 1 April 2023 10:45 (one year ago) link
How does one pay any attention whatsoever to the life and career of one Donald Trump and not feel that searching for a way to indict Donald Trump = upholding the rule of law? How? Please tell me how. Any other living human who didn't tiptoe so gracefully between the raindrops while doing crimes would've been indicted many, many times before now.
― Beautiful Bean Footage Fetishist (Old Lunch), Saturday, 1 April 2023 10:47 (one year ago) link
how does one pay attention to politics and not realize that political problems (i.e. figuring out how to get people to vote for your candidtates) can't be solved by legal means?
― Thus Sang Freud, Saturday, 1 April 2023 10:49 (one year ago) link
No one itt is suggesting it can?
― Daniel_Rf, Saturday, 1 April 2023 10:59 (one year ago) link
for a long time now, the singleminded focus of all the cable news shows has been trump/jail. if there are any other issues important to them, they don't get mentioned.
― Thus Sang Freud, Saturday, 1 April 2023 11:19 (one year ago) link
you're not seriously suggesting that if this wasn't happening cable news would be covering anything actually important, surely? that is not what it does.
― Daniel_Rf, Saturday, 1 April 2023 11:23 (one year ago) link
that's sort of our problem, don't you think? it's our public face. (i know, i know, who do i mean by "our" etc. etc.) like, we actually have a voice there, small as it might be, whereas we have no voice about what tuucker carlson emits.
― Thus Sang Freud, Saturday, 1 April 2023 11:37 (one year ago) link
I mean there's partic no "us" here because I'm not American but no I don't think you have any voice in what gets put on cable news, no.
― Daniel_Rf, Saturday, 1 April 2023 11:40 (one year ago) link
sort of a weird situation where we learn about "their" evilness and horribleness and vileness from their cable shows, yet we can't do anything about the idiocy that happens on "our" cable shows.
― Thus Sang Freud, Saturday, 1 April 2023 11:43 (one year ago) link
frogbs being super otm
― the very juice and sperm of kindness. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 1 April 2023 11:44 (one year ago) link
How about: all cable news is rank idiocy and who gives a rip what any of those sensationalists are breathlessly bleating about?
― Beautiful Bean Footage Fetishist (Old Lunch), Saturday, 1 April 2023 11:53 (one year ago) link
― Daniel_Rf, Saturday, 1 April 2023 11:53 (one year ago) link
I have been a news-centric human for half a century. I went to journalism school! I have yet to get a useful piece of information from a television show. And I don't _think_ I have ever had my mind changed or my opinion shaped by a television show, but perhaps I am wrong about that and am flattering myself.
― she loves me like a rock lobster (Ye Mad Puffin), Saturday, 1 April 2023 11:59 (one year ago) link
re the combing of evidence - the guy hires people whose literal job it is to cover his tracks, so due diligence has to be a little more assiduous if the law is to be applied equitably
― assert (matttkkkk), Saturday, 1 April 2023 12:01 (one year ago) link
More like "combover" of evidence amirite
― she loves me like a rock lobster (Ye Mad Puffin), Saturday, 1 April 2023 12:05 (one year ago) link
I teach and still practice a bit of journalism yet Willie Geist makes me weak.
― the very juice and sperm of kindness. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 1 April 2023 12:29 (one year ago) link
TRUMP'S LAWYERS: "Whatever you do, don't piss off the judge."TRUMP: pic.twitter.com/ksaPl7h98Y— StrictlyChristo 🇺🇦🌻 (@StrictlyChristo) March 31, 2023
― StanM, Saturday, 1 April 2023 12:49 (one year ago) link
Last word OTM
― nashwan, Saturday, 1 April 2023 13:00 (one year ago) link
I thought he misspelled “appalling” at first but now I get it.
― epistantophus, Saturday, 1 April 2023 13:15 (one year ago) link
He’s doing that thing where he distills an entire sentence down into one heavily emphasized word
― epistantophus, Saturday, 1 April 2023 13:19 (one year ago) link
Guy who is deeply hated by 55% of voters: “what are the chances that someone hates me?!?”
― it's a new day in the international landscape (z_tbd), Saturday, 1 April 2023 13:40 (one year ago) link
This was an entrance question at Wharton but somehow he skated his way through the admissions process
― it's a new day in the international landscape (z_tbd), Saturday, 1 April 2023 13:41 (one year ago) link
lol donnie trump is gonna get put down like a dog baby
― lag∞n, Saturday, 1 April 2023 13:45 (one year ago) link
im gonna be the trumps going to jail and it will solve all of our problems guy itt, it really needs really needs it
― lag∞n, Saturday, 1 April 2023 13:49 (one year ago) link
ty for yr service
― symsymsym, Saturday, 1 April 2023 13:57 (one year ago) link
cant wait to see donlad trump in chains!
― lag∞n, Saturday, 1 April 2023 13:59 (one year ago) link
it could actually happen tho
― lag∞n, Saturday, 1 April 2023 14:02 (one year ago) link
I think they're basically one and the same. I mean it's not as though, say, it was Ted Cruz who won in 2016, who was later found to have paid off a porn star and now 7 years later got indicted for it. I think that is something that would probably provoke the reaction some people are worried about, that left moderates would go "hey I don't like the guy but this is pretty extreme".
I'm mostly just paraphrasing Josh Mashall here but Trump is a very extreme case, he's unlike anything we've ever seen in American politics. While the election was going on his dumb "university" was in the process of being exposed as a total fraud, he was on tape bragging about being a sexual predator (while also having a dozen rape allegations being investigated), and he was also actively trying to get Russia to release dirt on Hillary Clinton. As President the dude was committing crime constantly - he forced foreign diplomats to stay at his hotel at insane prices and extorting the President of Ukraine were 2 big examples. Even stuff that was technically legal also felt like a massive abuse of the system, such as using something like $100,000,000 of taxpayer money to go golfing at his resort twice a week. When he lost the election he committed even more serious crimes, trying to extort Georgia to "find" votes, inciting an insurrection, and stealing classified documents for (apparently?) no real reason. If we decide as a country not just to let this slide but to also just treat this dude as just another politician, then we don't really have a country, we have a dictatorship. I don't care if this is like the Al Capone thing, where he's a massive criminal and you just get him on taxes. I don't think anyone on the left does either. He's a crook and everyone knows it.
― frogbs, Saturday, 1 April 2023 14:28 (one year ago) link
idk if trump is exactly extreme if anything his crimes are smalltime compared to typical presidential behavior, but he did fail to understand how to play the game, you have to color inside the lines to maintain presidential privilege, for instance obama bailing out wall st and happily just letting them carry on with business as usual afterwards gets him a couple mil for a speech immediately upon retirement and the law doesnt care, id say what trump is more is heterodox in behavior and rhetoric if not underlying politics, which is how he became president in the first place insulting orthodox washington etc
― lag∞n, Saturday, 1 April 2023 14:41 (one year ago) link
― limb tins & cum (gyac), Saturday, 1 April 2023 14:42 (one year ago) link
george bush did war crimes and so forth you get the picture xp self
― lag∞n, Saturday, 1 April 2023 14:42 (one year ago) link
xp yes otm exactly, it’s real smalltime shit compared to the usual crimes of the office, but that’s who he is!
― limb tins & cum (gyac), Saturday, 1 April 2023 14:43 (one year ago) link
he couldnt not be himself god bless
― lag∞n, Saturday, 1 April 2023 14:44 (one year ago) link
of those things you mention only the possession of top secret documents strikes me as clearly criminal. but is clouded by the issue of other pols also being found to have classified stuff in their archives. others are not crimes at all (if you replace "dirt" with "information" there's nothing actually wrong with seeking information on your opponent whereever you can find it). other things on your list point to a diseased mind much more than to criminality. i think there has been a growing awareness of trump's mental instability, even among former advocates, and they've been looking elsewhere for leadership. this case seems to want to halt that trend and throw the spotlight back on trump, and all indications are that it's very weak sauce. remains to be seen what happens but i don't get good vibes.
― Thus Sang Freud, Saturday, 1 April 2023 14:47 (one year ago) link
i think there has been a growing awareness of trump's mental instability, even among former advocates, and they've been looking elsewhere for leadership.
https://www.politico.com/news/2023/03/29/fox-poll-trump-desantis-00089593
― the very juice and sperm of kindness. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 1 April 2023 14:48 (one year ago) link
Your concern trolling is appreciated, though.
― the very juice and sperm of kindness. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 1 April 2023 14:49 (one year ago) link
of those things you mention only the possession of top secret documents strikes me as clearly criminal.
― limb tins & cum (gyac), Saturday, 1 April 2023 14:51 (one year ago) link
Grow up and say what your real problem is.
my problem, such as it is, is that i would dearly like for the democratic candidate to win the next election.
― Thus Sang Freud, Saturday, 1 April 2023 14:52 (one year ago) link
I mean look at the guy's Hannity interview - Hannity is constantly saying stuff like "oh you wouldn't do this, you didn't mean it like that, this isn't you..." and then Trump would immediately go "no, I have the right to do that, it's not wrong, I can take anything I want, it's called presidential privelege, it all belongs to me". I would posit that if you let *that* guy run for President again, you don't really have a rule of law.
and yes I know Dubya and (to a lesser extent) Obama committed crimes in office, and that in some sense they were a bit more serious, but I would say that's only because Trump is not a very smart or savvy criminal. I mean the dude straight up tried to steal a presidential election in broad daylight. That's pretty serious. I shudder to think what he would have done had we gotten into some kind of foreign conflict. If 9/11 happened on his watch I feel like we would've wound up with something somehow much worse than what we actually got.
― frogbs, Saturday, 1 April 2023 14:52 (one year ago) link
his phone call with Raffensperger seems pretty blatantly illegal to me
― c u (crüt), Saturday, 1 April 2023 14:53 (one year ago) link
yeah I'm confused. TSF: are you arguing that Trump hasn't committed any crimes during his political career, or that none of the current cases against him are legit (but there are other cases that would be)?
― rob, Saturday, 1 April 2023 14:54 (one year ago) link
Something something martyr Trump red tidal wave will crush us* all*¯\_(ツ)_/¯
― limb tins & cum (gyac), Saturday, 1 April 2023 14:55 (one year ago) link
others are not crimes at all (if you replace "dirt" with "information" there's nothing actually wrong with seeking information on your opponent whereever you can find it).
not true! there is actually a pretty well defined way you can and can't do this! he literally withheld foreign aid to Ukraine (who were invaded the next year!) because they weren't giving him information on Hunter Biden! he's on tape pressuring election officials in Georgia to make up votes for him! lets say he actually succeeded and intimiated enough governors in swing states into "finding missing votes"....would you think it was a crime then?
― frogbs, Saturday, 1 April 2023 14:56 (one year ago) link
and yes I know Dubya and (to a lesser extent) Obama committed crimes in office, and that in some sense they were a bit more serious,
all three were involved in egregious war crimes, there's no reason to rank them on the 'serious crime' scale
― rob, Saturday, 1 April 2023 14:58 (one year ago) link
if you replace "dirt" with "information" there's nothing actually wrong with seeking information on your opponent whereever you can find itif you replace "dirt" with "information" there's nothing actually wrong with seeking information on your opponent whereever you can find itif you replace "dirt" with "information" there's nothing actually wrong with seeking information on your opponent whereever you can find it
― limb tins & cum (gyac), Saturday, 1 April 2023 14:58 (one year ago) link
― Thus Sang Freud,
Have you not paid attention to what happened in 2018, 2022, and, uh, 2020? I'm a queer man living in fucking Florida and you're the one worried about exciting the MAGAs?
― the very juice and sperm of kindness. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 1 April 2023 14:59 (one year ago) link
i mean what bush did was much worse it does deserve to be said xp
― lag∞n, Saturday, 1 April 2023 15:00 (one year ago) link
also yeah trump attempting a coup does rise above smalltime
― lag∞n, Saturday, 1 April 2023 15:01 (one year ago) link
Reveal Your Uncool Legal Beliefs Here.
― the very juice and sperm of kindness. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 1 April 2023 15:01 (one year ago) link
xp it was a smalltime type coup though, you know Cheney would have done it professionally!
― limb tins & cum (gyac), Saturday, 1 April 2023 15:02 (one year ago) link
yea the conception and execution deeply were flawed but nevertheless
― lag∞n, Saturday, 1 April 2023 15:04 (one year ago) link
wait, the dirt on hillary thing wasn't the ukraine thing. those were two different things.
― Thus Sang Freud, Saturday, 1 April 2023 15:04 (one year ago) link
Have you not paid attention to what happened in 2018, 2022, and, uh, 2020?
yes we've been scraping by. we narrowly pulled out a victory against the craziest candiate of all time! baby steps. but i'd like to keep things headed in the right direction. this seems to me like a big backwards step.
― Thus Sang Freud, Saturday, 1 April 2023 15:07 (one year ago) link
Indicting him for a crime is a step in the right direction.
― the very juice and sperm of kindness. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 1 April 2023 15:09 (one year ago) link
i agree its good
― lag∞n, Saturday, 1 April 2023 15:09 (one year ago) link
we'll see.
― Thus Sang Freud, Saturday, 1 April 2023 15:10 (one year ago) link
― lag∞n, Saturday, April 1, 2023 11:00 AM (seven minutes ago)
yeah I rethought that after posting tbh; Obama and Trump (war) crimes obvs descend from Bush's actions. plus there's a level of zeal to the W administration's criminal activities that outpaces the others. that said, they all did grotesquely immoral shit
― rob, Saturday, 1 April 2023 15:10 (one year ago) link
yes we've been scraping by. we narrowly pulled out a victory against the craziest candiate of all time
It was the first time an incumbent lost since 1992, in an era where things are so polarized that that only a handful of states decide every election
― hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Saturday, 1 April 2023 15:16 (one year ago) link
― lag∞n, Saturday, April 1, 2023 9:41 AM (twenty-nine minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
I agree with this but I don't really like the framing because it plays into that common GOP idea that people just don't like Trump because he's an outsider, he's mean on Twitter, he's abrasive and "speaks his mind" or whatever. Trump was very clear about wanting to turn America into a dictatorship in which he was the king. He very much wanted to transform the American political system into one in which a Democrat could never win again. He was explicit about using state violence to accomplish this and even directed the National Guard to tear gas BLM protestors. He got his supporters to ransack the Capitol building and refused to call them off even as the violence was unfolding. He talked shit about every single one of our allies and bragged about how well he got along with Putin and Kim Jong Un. So I think in the broad sense Trump is much more dangerous than his predecessors, the difference is overthrowing a major nation is a lot harder than fucking shit up in the Middle East. By the way just in case I'm unclear on this I think Dubya deserved to go to Guantanamo.
― frogbs, Saturday, 1 April 2023 15:18 (one year ago) link
TSF, we keep posting evidence, you respond, "I dunno, I got vibes, man."
― the very juice and sperm of kindness. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 1 April 2023 15:19 (one year ago) link
By the way just in case I'm unclear on this I think Dubya deserved to go to Guantanamo.
Then Obama couldn't have closed it!
not sure i've noticed the evidence. evidence of what? i've seen a lot of invective flying fast and furious.
― Thus Sang Freud, Saturday, 1 April 2023 15:21 (one year ago) link
and again I really don't wanna minimize the tragedy of the Bush administration but when it comes to how a country ought to handle the crimes of its rulers, a ruler who is trying to overthrow the very foundations of its country is the sort of thing that a nation, by definition, needs to take more seriously than anything else.
― frogbs, Saturday, 1 April 2023 15:21 (one year ago) link
the evidence that Trump's base is shrinking xpost
― the very juice and sperm of kindness. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 1 April 2023 15:23 (one year ago) link
i guess i'm not necessarily talking about his base? like, i think the something that looks like vengeance could cut a wider swath through right-leaning voters?
― Thus Sang Freud, Saturday, 1 April 2023 15:25 (one year ago) link
and your evidence of this happening is:
― symsymsym, Saturday, 1 April 2023 15:27 (one year ago) link
i can't have evidence of the future. man you guys are rough.
― Thus Sang Freud, Saturday, 1 April 2023 15:28 (one year ago) link
STOP CONCERN TROLLING WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU
― obsidian crocogolem (sleeve), Saturday, 1 April 2023 15:29 (one year ago) link
FP'd
― obsidian crocogolem (sleeve), Saturday, 1 April 2023 15:30 (one year ago) link
I agree with this but I don't really like the framing because it plays into that common GOP idea that people just don't like Trump because he's an outsider, he's mean on Twitter, he's abrasive and "speaks his mind" or whatever.
― frogbs, Saturday, April 1, 2023 11:18 AM (eight minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
it is kinda true tho, you can see it in democrats pining for the days of respectable republicans like ronald reagan, trump just as they saysaid the quiet part loud
― lag∞n, Saturday, 1 April 2023 15:32 (one year ago) link
He very much wanted to transform the American political system into one in which a Democrat could never win again. He was explicit about using state violence to accomplish this and even directed the National Guard to tear gas BLM protestors.
― frogbs, Saturday, April 1, 2023 11:18 AM (thirteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
i mean this is just regular stuff
He got his supporters to ransack the Capitol building and refused to call them off even as the violence was unfolding. He talked shit about every single one of our allies and bragged about how well he got along with Putin and Kim Jong Un. So I think in the broad sense Trump is much more dangerous than his predecessors, the difference is overthrowing a major nation is a lot harder than fucking shit up in the Middle East. By the way just in case I'm unclear on this I think Dubya deserved to go to Guantanamo.
and this is counter productive to the conservative project
― lag∞n, Saturday, 1 April 2023 15:35 (one year ago) link
tho i would agree that saying the quite part loud is indeed dangerous and has unleashed all sorts of nasty forces
― lag∞n, Saturday, 1 April 2023 15:36 (one year ago) link
and prob needless to say i would rather have almost anyone with their finger on the button besides him
― lag∞n, Saturday, 1 April 2023 15:37 (one year ago) link
Aha! You are New York Times journalist Peter Baker! What do I win?
― but also fuck you (unperson), Saturday, 1 April 2023 15:40 (one year ago) link
So I think in the broad sense Trump is much more dangerous than his predecessors, the difference is overthrowing a major nation is a lot harder than fucking shit up in the Middle East.
I don't really have the energy for this convo, but this kind of thinking is why people justifiably hate americans
― rob, Saturday, 1 April 2023 15:41 (one year ago) link
― obsidian crocogolem (sleeve), Saturday, April 1, 2023 11:29 AM bookmarkflaglink
― hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Saturday, 1 April 2023 15:47 (one year ago) link
Well again I’ll stress that GWBs administration was way more tragic and terrible but had Trump won in 2000 and had to manage 9/11 and the wars that were brewing I think he actually would’ve handled it much worse.
― frogbs, Saturday, 1 April 2023 15:49 (one year ago) link
idk attacking iraq was really some shit
― lag∞n, Saturday, 1 April 2023 15:51 (one year ago) link
― lag∞n, Saturday, April 1, 2023 10:32 AM (sixteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
Sure and those Dems obviously suck. But I think with Reagan and GWB though there was never the threat that they’d try to illegally seize power and attempt a coup if they lost re-election, with Trump it was something everyone saw coming from the start. In terms of “what kind of crimes should a nation not allow from its leaders” I’d imagine this sort of thing is right up top.
― frogbs, Saturday, 1 April 2023 15:55 (one year ago) link
The consequences of the Bush admin for global security and peace are worse than those of the Trump administration. However, Trump is a career criminal and unhinged lunatic who belongs in jail.
― treeship., Saturday, 1 April 2023 15:56 (one year ago) link
These are just independent facts. They can both be true.
reagan et al were playing the long game, with great success
― lag∞n, Saturday, 1 April 2023 15:57 (one year ago) link
I’ll use an analogy which I suspect is terrible but in my uniquely American mind it makes sense. In Major League Baseball you get a harsher punishment for using steroids than you do committing acts of violence. It’s not because their worldview is that cheating at baseball is more immoral than hurting people, it’s because the league by definition has to treat it that way or else they lose credibility and trust in their product. I 100% think Bush should’ve been held accountable, and that even factoring in the COVID stuff he’s done way more harm than Trump. But as far as the rule of law is concerned, if you have a guy who is constantly committing crimes in the open and promising to abuse the rule of law to maintain permanent power, either you deal with it or you don’t actually have a rule of law at all.
― frogbs, Saturday, 1 April 2023 16:24 (one year ago) link
Reagan made everything bad worse. In a lot of ways we're still climbing out of that wreck.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 1 April 2023 16:26 (one year ago) link
The dude should have been jailed long ago just on pure aesthetic grounds. Crimes against taste. All the other stuff is bad too, of course. A clear pattern of sexual assault, emboldening institutionalized racism, unleashing the worst possible people into corridors of power, firing up millions of troglodytes and telling them that their ugliest impulses are okay, running multiple grift-tastic businesses before, during, and after being in office... I can't keep track and neither can you.
It is very much not my job to ensure that an unimaginably hideous person gets punished for the correct things in the correct order. Al Capone was jailed for tax evasion; everyone knew he had done other bad things.
So with Trump, is it a specific phone call or hush-money payment or golf trip or whatever? Who gives a shit? I can't really be bothered to care which specific thing sticks.
Also treeship is right. There's no reason to require proportionality with other crimes done by other presidents. When I get a speeding ticket I don't get to interrogate the justice system on the grounds of who DIDN'T get a ticket on that same road on a different day, or whatever.
Someone else having committed an equivalent or worse infraction is not a very compelling legal defense. You did a thing and you got caught. Own it, beeyotch.
― she loves me like a rock lobster (Ye Mad Puffin), Saturday, 1 April 2023 16:26 (one year ago) link
― lag∞n, Saturday, April 1, 2023 11:51 AM (thirty-five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
Agree that what Bush did was worse, but since we’re talking criminal law Bush had the alibi of his act getting signed off on by Congress and the media and like 80 percent of the American people
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Saturday, 1 April 2023 16:34 (one year ago) link
Still amazes me how many people uncritically fell for it
― hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Saturday, 1 April 2023 16:47 (one year ago) link
The few protests I went to had counter protesters who were dumb as a box of rocks .
― hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Saturday, 1 April 2023 16:48 (one year ago) link
Some other pretty disastrous things Trump did:- strongarmed Anthony Kennedy into retiring, setting up a conservative SC takeover we may never dig our way out of- deluded his voters into disbelieving reality and gave a megaphone to conspiracy theories from no less a platform than the presidency- set vaccination science and disease eradication back decades by turning his followers against medical science
― epistantophus, Saturday, 1 April 2023 17:24 (one year ago) link
SCOTUS hostile takeover probably the most damaging.
If RBG had died two months later, we might still have Roe v Wade
― hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Saturday, 1 April 2023 17:27 (one year ago) link
trump can't win re-election without drawing support from non-committed voters or without a depressed dem turnout. indicting trump is not going to make him more popular with non-committed voters. it will only energize his core base which, again, is well less than half the country.
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Saturday, 1 April 2023 17:29 (one year ago) link
an indicted Trump WILL energize Dem voters
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Saturday, 1 April 2023 17:30 (one year ago) link
indicted in multiple venues for a wide array of crimes, one hopes
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Saturday, 1 April 2023 17:42 (one year ago) link
hopefully this will be like when the first person steps on the dancefloor - soon it will be an indictment inferno— Simon Reynolds (@SimonRetromania) March 30, 2023
― official representative of Roku's Basketshit in at least one alternate u (lukas), Saturday, 1 April 2023 17:47 (one year ago) link
Burn baby burn
― hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Saturday, 1 April 2023 17:55 (one year ago) link
"if we strike batters out, they're just gonna try harder to hit the ball, can't have that. Let's just walk everyone"
― hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Saturday, 1 April 2023 17:56 (one year ago) link
akm otm
― symsymsym, Saturday, 1 April 2023 18:05 (one year ago) link
Agree that what Bush did was worse, but since we’re talking criminal law Bush had the alibi of his act getting signed off on by Congress and the media and like 80 percent of the American people― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Saturday, April 1, 2023 5:34 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Saturday, April 1, 2023 5:34 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
yeah i think one big thing that makes it possible that trump goes to jail was that he broke manufactured consent
― ꙮ (map), Saturday, 1 April 2023 18:17 (one year ago) link
strongarmed Anthony Kennedy into retiring, setting up a conservative SC takeover we may never dig our way out of
Did he? I thought Kennedy willingly offered Trump his counsel, i.e. nominate Barf.
― the very juice and sperm of kindness. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 1 April 2023 18:36 (one year ago) link
Misread that as Trump strong arming Anthony Kiedis.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 1 April 2023 18:37 (one year ago) link
Re: fostering further vaccine denialism, my mom, a retired physician, is convinced that a measles epidemic is next on the horizon, and that one will kill children.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 1 April 2023 18:38 (one year ago) link
Such a silly notion that we should not charge a criminal with crimes because
a. There are worse criminals than him
or
b. These aren't the worst crimes he has done
c. Do we want other people who we like more, but have had the same job as him, to also get charged with crimes?
Because
a. Yeah, and?
b. Yeah, so?
c. Sure, why not?
Don't want to get charged with crimes? Don't do crimes!
― she loves me like a rock lobster (Ye Mad Puffin), Saturday, 1 April 2023 19:29 (one year ago) link
xxp Republicans want children to die- otherwise the pesky things keep growing up into young voters
― epistantophus, Saturday, 1 April 2023 19:36 (one year ago) link
Also I guarantee Trump applied some heavy mafia style leverage against Kennedy- he needed that SC justice, that was his crowning moment, that’s what gave the evangelicals the fig leaf they needed to come fully to heel.
― epistantophus, Saturday, 1 April 2023 19:48 (one year ago) link
Seriously, how does a one-term President magically get the opportunity to nominate not one, not two, but three SC justices? It doesn’t happen without some serious behind the scenes activity. And we know how he operates.
― epistantophus, Saturday, 1 April 2023 19:53 (one year ago) link
So you’re saying he killed Ginsburg.
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 1 April 2023 19:54 (one year ago) link
I hate Ginsburg
― "The pudding incident?" (Boring, Maryland), Saturday, 1 April 2023 20:00 (one year ago) link
To be honest, I thought it was a possibility at the time. Someone sneaking in with a pillow. Never actually believed that, but it wouldn’t have surprised me, let’s say.
― epistantophus, Saturday, 1 April 2023 20:13 (one year ago) link
I don’t think so
― treeship., Saturday, 1 April 2023 20:14 (one year ago) link
he killed Ginsburg
Ruthlessly.
Seriously, though, RBG was 87 years old and had been in failing health for a while. Yeah, she could have retired earlier, but hindsight does not help us
― she loves me like a rock lobster (Ye Mad Puffin), Saturday, 1 April 2023 20:24 (one year ago) link
There is a whole #Resistance lib conspiracy surrounding this clip of Trump and Kennedy:
Trump says something to Justice Kennedy that shocks him. Something's up. (No sound) pic.twitter.com/qSkTu9B092— Eleven Films (@Eleven_Films) October 8, 2018
― jaymc, Saturday, 1 April 2023 20:49 (one year ago) link
"Do you ever find that your diaper kinda wedges up in your crack when you sit in an uncomfortable chair?"
― she loves me like a rock lobster (Ye Mad Puffin), Saturday, 1 April 2023 21:13 (one year ago) link
"Logical Song? Fuck no, Breakfast In America every time."
― nashwan, Saturday, 1 April 2023 21:44 (one year ago) link
more like "I know what you did" prob
― obsidian crocogolem (sleeve), Saturday, 1 April 2023 22:19 (one year ago) link
Kennedy’s son apparently worked for Deutsche Bank which was the only bank that would lend to T.
― "The pudding incident?" (Boring, Maryland), Saturday, 1 April 2023 22:53 (one year ago) link
Yep
― the very juice and sperm of kindness. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 1 April 2023 22:58 (one year ago) link
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Saturday, April 1, 2023 12:42 PM (five hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
― The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Saturday, 1 April 2023 23:12 (one year ago) link
surprised no one is talking about this: https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2023/04/02/trump-mar-a-lago-obstruction-classified/
― bookmarkflaglink (Darin), Sunday, 2 April 2023 22:44 (one year ago) link
do you think maybe be did something illegal? who among us ... etc.?
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 3 April 2023 03:24 (one year ago) link
very sus
― hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Monday, 3 April 2023 12:49 (one year ago) link
― Thus Sang Freud, Saturday, April 1, 2023 3:45 AM (two days ago) bookmarkflaglink
CNN — Sixty percent of Americans approve of the indictment of former President Donald Trump, according to a new CNN Poll conducted by SSRS following the news that a New York grand jury voted to charge him in connection with hush money payments made to adult film actress Stormy Daniels. About three-quarters of Americans say politics played at least some role in the decision to indict Trump, including 52% who said it played a major role.
Independents largely line up in support of the indictment – 62% approve of it and 38% disapprove. Democrats are near universal in their support for the indictment (94% approve, including 71% who strongly approve of the indictment), with Republicans less unified in opposition (79% disapprove, with 54% strongly disapproving).
While views on the indictment are split along party lines, the poll finds that majorities across major demographic divides all approve of the decision to indict the former president. That includes gender (62% of women, 58% of men), racial and ethnic groups (82% of Black adults, 71% of Hispanic adults, 51% of White adults), generational lines (69% under age 35; 62% age 35-49; 53% age 50-64; 54% 65 or older) and educational levels (68% with college degrees, 56% with some college or less).
https://www.cnn.com/2023/04/03/politics/cnn-poll-trump-indictment/index.html
― symsymsym, Monday, 3 April 2023 15:14 (one year ago) link
― the very juice and sperm of kindness. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 3 April 2023 15:16 (one year ago) link
51% of white people a surprise
― hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Monday, 3 April 2023 15:16 (one year ago) link
lock him up!
― lag∞n, Monday, 3 April 2023 15:17 (one year ago) link
America: eff that guy
― The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 3 April 2023 15:17 (one year ago) link
60% of Americans think criminals being indicted is a good thing, actually
― symsymsym, Monday, 3 April 2023 15:18 (one year ago) link
there you go again with your facts and figures and things that actually happen in the real world rather than in my imagination
― dicbo=v2-ubswizzb&hrt (stevie), Monday, 3 April 2023 15:46 (one year ago) link
flawed poll, didn't ask people "are you now going to vote for Trump because of the bullshit indictment"
― hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Monday, 3 April 2023 15:54 (one year ago) link
yeah I mean lets face it a bet a lot of people publicly defending him in the media actually agree with the indictment
― frogbs, Monday, 3 April 2023 16:42 (one year ago) link
here he comes
WATCH: Donald Trump's motorcade departs his Mar-a-Lago estate in Florida as the former president heads to New York to face arraignment https://t.co/loy3kzMzbL pic.twitter.com/xzFnRSr9hN— Bloomberg (@business) April 3, 2023
― lag∞n, Monday, 3 April 2023 16:45 (one year ago) link
Axios -- Former President Trump has raised more than $5 million since news of his indictment broke late Thursday — over $4 million in the first 24 hours and over $1 million in the second 24 hours, a Trump official told Axios on Saturday night.
Why it matters: The donation gusher validates the view of most top Republicans that the expected indictment from Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg, at least in the short term, will help Trump's effort to build a formidable lead for the 2024 Republican presidential nomination.
By the numbers: In announcing the initial $4 million haul, Trump's campaign noted that over 25% of the donations came from first-time donors to him.
What they're saying: The campaign tells Axios that 16,000+ volunteers signed up on his website in 24 hours.
― Thus Sang Freud, Monday, 3 April 2023 16:46 (one year ago) link
he can (and should) use that money to pay off 30 more porn stars
― frogbs, Monday, 3 April 2023 16:48 (one year ago) link
god , if a monster truck can just go over the motorcade
― hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Monday, 3 April 2023 16:52 (one year ago) link
omg he's fundraising! what will we do
― hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Monday, 3 April 2023 16:53 (one year ago) link
shame this is the first time he ever made millions off of his base
sad to see George Soros mess up like this
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Monday, 3 April 2023 16:55 (one year ago) link
Sweet. That's what America's about: second chances.
― the very juice and sperm of kindness. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 3 April 2023 16:55 (one year ago) link
Meanwhile all would-be MAGA protesters should definitely listen to this guy, those NYC Antifas are laying in wait! Stay away!
Here’s why you shouldn’t protest in blue cities and why you should DEFINITELY stay out of NYC tomorrow.Remember Mike Tyson? We all watched him knock people’s heads off for a living. But you know what we didn’t watch?— Jesse Kelly (@JesseKellyDC) April 3, 2023
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Monday, 3 April 2023 17:20 (one year ago) link
Yes, it's THAT Jesse Kelly:
@JesseKellyDCHost of the nationally syndicated Jesse Kelly Show. Host of ‘I’m Right’ on The First. Anti-Communist. World Famous Author.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Monday, 3 April 2023 17:31 (one year ago) link
I’m surprised at the violent threats he is making on Truth Social. First off, why isn’t he on Twitter? Secondly, he seems to be burning the good will he was building with “moderate” Republicans who sympathized with his position that this indictment is politically motivated.
― treeship., Monday, 3 April 2023 17:35 (one year ago) link
I guess it’s just his instinct—rile up the base. But January 6th style stuff didn’t really work out for him politically imo.
― treeship., Monday, 3 April 2023 17:36 (one year ago) link
The thing is his instincts (such as they are) have mostly worked out for him over the course his lifetime. I'm sure he sees Jan. 6 mostly as a failure by other people to follow thru on what he knew needed to be done. No way he's going to change or moderate anything about his behavior now.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Monday, 3 April 2023 17:45 (one year ago) link
xp - I don't believe there's any nuanced thought behind the violent threats. He just believes that projecting maximum power is the key to 'winning'. This is just him dialing up the "fire and fury such as the world has never seen" rhetoric, figuring the other guy can't tell if he's just fronting. He's used to doubling down on this strategy until the other guy backs off. Basic bully stuff.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Monday, 3 April 2023 17:59 (one year ago) link
I know he ain’t say what I think he said 🤭 pic.twitter.com/ksKxqQs53M— chris evans (@notcapnamerica) April 3, 2023
― dicbo=v2-ubswizzb&hrt (stevie), Monday, 3 April 2023 17:59 (one year ago) link
Jack Posobiec: "[Trump] waved. He waved once to the cameras, to the crowd, and, in a sense, he's waving goodbye to the republic that once was" pic.twitter.com/5T791bM5hw— Jason Campbell (@JasonSCampbell) April 3, 2023
― lag∞n, Monday, 3 April 2023 18:01 (one year ago) link
wow hell of a Freudian slip there
― frogbs, Monday, 3 April 2023 18:02 (one year ago) link
I’m still laughing out loud over that slip
― The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 3 April 2023 18:06 (one year ago) link
I still think it's hilarious that there is such a thing as a Trump donor, let alone a Trump volunteer.
Like seriously, you have spare time and/or money and you want to give it/them to that?
― she loves me like a rock lobster (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 3 April 2023 18:09 (one year ago) link
Ohhhhhh, it’s a new-ass country alright
― The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 3 April 2023 18:09 (one year ago) link
― frogbs, Monday, April 3, 2023 2:02 PM (nineteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
Think you mean Fraudian slip
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Monday, 3 April 2023 18:23 (one year ago) link
He should try and sell "President Fraud" to De Santis as a campaign trail zing
― dicbo=v2-ubswizzb&hrt (stevie), Monday, 3 April 2023 18:24 (one year ago) link
President Fraud on anything but rollerskates
― henry s, Monday, 3 April 2023 18:37 (one year ago) link
It's sick.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 3 April 2023 18:43 (one year ago) link
they frame it "they can and will come after you too,"
… do you think “using campaign funds for bush money” is a relatable problem for Americans?
― papal hotwife (milo z), Monday, 3 April 2023 18:48 (one year ago) link
I paid the mods off years ago
― hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Monday, 3 April 2023 18:51 (one year ago) link
A couple of presidents used Bush money for campaign funds.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 3 April 2023 18:52 (one year ago) link
starting to get some 'things I just don't care about' vibes from this whole show
― Andy the Grasshopper, Monday, 3 April 2023 19:48 (one year ago) link
"they can and will come after you too,"
Golly, if they can indict the best president ever just for paying hush money to a porn star, why they could come after my poor, frail 91 year old dad for... uh, wait...
― Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Monday, 3 April 2023 20:24 (one year ago) link
First they came for the fraudster, and I did not speak because I'm not a fucking moron
― hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Monday, 3 April 2023 20:26 (one year ago) link
Look these are the people who keep arguing we need guns to stop a tyrannical government despite the fact that it’s something that literally never happens. And also the fact that they are the ones voting for the tyrants!
― frogbs, Monday, 3 April 2023 20:33 (one year ago) link
tyrants can only be taken down by a self-appointed militia of land-owning white men
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Monday, 3 April 2023 20:35 (one year ago) link
TRUMP SENTENCED TO IMMEDIATE DEATH
― it's a new day in the international landscape (z_tbd), Tuesday, 4 April 2023 14:59 (one year ago) link
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 4 April 2023 15:00 (one year ago) link
EVERYONE HE HURT GETS TO PUNCH HIM IN THE FACE FIRST
wow was not expecting this on arraignment day but i'll take it!
― it's a new day in the international landscape (z_tbd), Tuesday, 4 April 2023 15:00 (one year ago) link
xp yeah the judge was just like "i've seen enough, you're dead"
cant argue with that
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 4 April 2023 15:01 (one year ago) link
and then he reached into his chest and pulled out his heart
― hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 4 April 2023 15:01 (one year ago) link
the judge said "the tree of liberty must be watered from time to time with the blood of this asshole sitting right there". all 12 jurors as well as the foreman completely agreed
― it's a new day in the international landscape (z_tbd), Tuesday, 4 April 2023 15:04 (one year ago) link
shitshow vibes already through the roof lol if it goes to trial its going to be an alltimer
pic.twitter.com/MmbfulYbSf— William Turton (@WilliamTurton) April 4, 2023
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 4 April 2023 15:09 (one year ago) link
Now grind exceeding fine, o mills
― alright alright alright alright (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 4 April 2023 15:24 (one year ago) link
love you sir
Sen. Cindy Hyde-Smith (R-Miss.) announced her endorsement of Donald Trump for the 2024 Republican presidential nomination on Monday night — hours before he was set to be arraigned Tuesday.
― it's a new day in the international landscape (z_tbd), Tuesday, 4 April 2023 15:40 (one year ago) link
this is some shit you would see in a bad movie
Trump supporters and anti-Trump protesters are separated by metal barriers and heckling each other pic.twitter.com/aHGzqlrL74— Tess Owen (@misstessowen) April 4, 2023
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 4 April 2023 15:40 (one year ago) link
Both sides!
― the very juice and sperm of kindness. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 4 April 2023 15:43 (one year ago) link
Gary Cherone and Extreme will soon be occupying the middle
― hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 4 April 2023 15:44 (one year ago) link
The best people.
Someone dressed up as Biden on the pro-Trump side demanding to know where his son Hunter is pic.twitter.com/MgNPU9Lodg— Tess Owen (@misstessowen) April 4, 2023
― the very juice and sperm of kindness. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 4 April 2023 15:49 (one year ago) link
"What do you think about . . ."
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 4 April 2023 15:51 (one year ago) link
Genuinely perplexed at where these people find the time and energy to care about Hunter Biden so much.
― Camaraderie at Arms Length, Tuesday, 4 April 2023 15:54 (one year ago) link
Genuinely perplexed at where these people find the time and energy to care about Hunter Biden Hillary Clinton's emails so much.
― the very juice and sperm of kindness. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 4 April 2023 15:59 (one year ago) link
and a number of other things
― Camaraderie at Arms Length, Tuesday, 4 April 2023 15:59 (one year ago) link
they have nothing better to focus on
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Tuesday, 4 April 2023 16:02 (one year ago) link
life imitates that Tim Burton Batman movie that aged really badly
― dicbo=v2-ubswizzb&hrt (stevie), Tuesday, 4 April 2023 16:02 (one year ago) link
the interview was the most perfect
Hannity: “I can’t imagine you ever saying: ‘Bring me some of the boxes that we brought back from the White House. I’d like to look at them.”Trump: “I would do that!”Hannity: “Alright, let me move on...” Trump: “I have the right to take stuff!” pic.twitter.com/lAWOibvMxw— No Lie with Brian Tyler Cohen (@NoLieWithBTC) April 3, 2023
― it's a new day in the international landscape (z_tbd), Tuesday, 4 April 2023 16:22 (one year ago) link
a crime is only a crime if you say you're doing a crime
― hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 4 April 2023 16:22 (one year ago) link
i simply want the stuff and i will have it i love the stuff why not who doesnt like stuff
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 4 April 2023 16:25 (one year ago) link
"they ended up paying Richard Nixon $18 million dollars for what he had"
Intimating that maybe they should really pay Donald Trump for what he has
― Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 4 April 2023 16:29 (one year ago) link
The law didn't exist when Nixon got that payday.
― the very juice and sperm of kindness. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 4 April 2023 16:35 (one year ago) link
https://media.gettyimages.com/id/1250762766/photo/us-politics-justice-trial-trump.jpg?s=2048x2048&w=gi&k=20&c=tEeVB2UatjvvjZyT1aA7ClwzQ8n1pMfvWecNI5kEPAk=
Pro and anti trump supporters argue outside of the Manhattan Criminal Court in New York City on April 4, 2023. - Donald Trump will make an unprecedented appearance before a New York judge on April 4, 2023 to answer criminal charges that threaten to throw the 2024 White House race into turmoil. (Photo by ANGELA WEISS / AFP)
― fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Tuesday, 4 April 2023 16:49 (one year ago) link
what the hell is going on there?
― Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 4 April 2023 16:50 (one year ago) link
???
― The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 4 April 2023 16:51 (one year ago) link
Marge fell over and dude is like "whad'ya doin?!?"
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Tuesday, 4 April 2023 16:51 (one year ago) link
the ska to maga pipeline in effect
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 4 April 2023 16:52 (one year ago) link
some combination of post-Trump politics + NYC
― c u (crüt), Tuesday, 4 April 2023 16:53 (one year ago) link
Greene told Right Side Broadcasting that she spoke with Trump on Monday. She said that the former president is “completely committed to fighting this injustice,” and seemed to compare him to Jesus.
“President Trump is joining some of the most incredible people in history being arrested today. Nelson Mandela was arrested; served time in prison. Jesus. Jesus was arrested and murdered by the Roman government,” she said.
― Thus Sang Freud, Tuesday, 4 April 2023 16:55 (one year ago) link
xps - I'll believe in the "turmoil" when I see someone besides Trump winning primaries in states where the GOP dominates.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 4 April 2023 16:55 (one year ago) link
Of course, Jesus' own people demanded his crucifixion.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 4 April 2023 16:56 (one year ago) link
one protester's going this waythe other protester's going the other waythis guy's like whadya want from me
― hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 4 April 2023 16:57 (one year ago) link
It took me a minute, but I believe that Trump supported charged a giant anti-Trump sign and ended up taking a header
― fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Tuesday, 4 April 2023 16:58 (one year ago) link
most incredible people in history being arrested
see also: Al Capone, Charles Manson, Carlos the Jackal, etc. etc.
― Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 4 April 2023 17:00 (one year ago) link
best guess is a Trumper is using her body to prevent a huge anti-Trump banner that was laid out on the ground from being hoisted.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 4 April 2023 17:01 (one year ago) link
it's pretty easy to give someone the heave ho BY hoisting it tho
― hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 4 April 2023 17:02 (one year ago) link
We don't know what's in her purse
― fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Tuesday, 4 April 2023 17:02 (one year ago) link
probably a copy of the Turner Diaries
― hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 4 April 2023 17:03 (one year ago) link
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fs4wDW0WYAQrhzd?format=jpg&name=large
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 4 April 2023 17:37 (one year ago) link
np: “Brand New Day” from The Wiz
― castanuts (DJP), Tuesday, 4 April 2023 17:41 (one year ago) link
Currently don’t care whether he is convicted on this particular charge, dude got arrested and is being arraigned, I will laugh at him for that forever
― castanuts (DJP), Tuesday, 4 April 2023 17:43 (one year ago) link
https://media.tenor.com/GVErK1qUF4EAAAAC/free-the-wiz.gif
― fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Tuesday, 4 April 2023 17:45 (one year ago) link
Also very tired of the UNPRECEDENTED rhetoric, which very much feels fueled by the fact that Bragg is black
― castanuts (DJP), Tuesday, 4 April 2023 17:45 (one year ago) link
Trump you know it ain't easy
You know how hard it can be
The way things are going
They're gonna crucify me
― she loves me like a rock lobster (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 4 April 2023 17:46 (one year ago) link
salute to the #resistance today is your day now this isnt a photoshop
https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1643305695075262480
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 4 April 2023 17:47 (one year ago) link
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fs4x0RBWYBIPlvW?format=jpg&name=small
Outside the courthouse. pic.twitter.com/w21bjyPW5n— Ben Collins (@oneunderscore__) April 4, 2023
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 4 April 2023 17:48 (one year ago) link
― castanuts (DJP), Tuesday, April 4, 2023 12:43 PM (five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
Indeed
― The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 4 April 2023 17:50 (one year ago) link
It’s UNPRECEDENTED that you were so BAD at crimes that you got arrested and arraigned for something that has probably been done before, you stupid fucking bag of pimple pus
― castanuts (DJP), Tuesday, 4 April 2023 18:00 (one year ago) link
CNN commentators keeping saying “this is sad” and I’m like “shut up, fool”
― castanuts (DJP), Tuesday, 4 April 2023 18:01 (one year ago) link
he refused to ever once listen to a lawyer lol
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 4 April 2023 18:02 (one year ago) link
Sad is the fact that this sentient mound of rancid pubic hair was elected President in the first place, all of this is funny as shit
― castanuts (DJP), Tuesday, 4 April 2023 18:02 (one year ago) link
lmao are we really gonna get to go through this 2 or 3 more times this year
― frogbs, Tuesday, 4 April 2023 18:02 (one year ago) link
#SantaIsReal
― castanuts (DJP), Tuesday, 4 April 2023 18:04 (one year ago) link
― castanuts (DJP
― the very juice and sperm of kindness. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 4 April 2023 18:07 (one year ago) link
chances are the talking heads on cnn were carefully instructed not to be happy because that would show bias, so the producer chose 'sad' as the neutral script to work from. it's all just 'doing business' to them.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 4 April 2023 18:11 (one year ago) link
While all this is going on, note this thread (yeah yeah, breaking, but kinda justified here):
🚨 BREAKING - MARK MEADOWS 🚨Okay, we're spelunking in sealed dockets & h/t to @TimInHonolulu for noticing.Last Wednesday, Trump appealed Judge Howell's order requiring Meadows, Dan Scavino, Jason Miller to testify before Jack Smith's 1/6 grand jury /1 https://t.co/j0K1tsxPdv— Opening Arguments (@openargs) April 4, 2023
End result?
And just a few minutes ago, the panel unanimously DENIED Trump's motion to vacate Judge Howell's order & to stay proceedings, which means unless the Supreme Court steps in -- and Trump has gone 0-for at SCOTUS on these requests -- Meadows et al. WILL be required to testify. /6 pic.twitter.com/p3uJqryAey— Opening Arguments (@openargs) April 4, 2023
Basically in combination with the Pence ruling, the Corcoran one, etc., all kinds of people who can't normally talk or wouldn't normally be able to re that federal grand jury in DC will have to do a lot of same.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 4 April 2023 18:11 (one year ago) link
If he started listening to their advice he might have to start paying them.
― she loves me like a rock lobster (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 4 April 2023 18:13 (one year ago) link
are we gonna get a mug shot out of this?
― Chyiv Kyiv (Fetchboy), Tuesday, 4 April 2023 18:26 (one year ago) link
doubt it. maybe a gag order.
― Thus Sang Freud, Tuesday, 4 April 2023 18:30 (one year ago) link
Hopefully he'll get in an "I'm out of order? I'M out of order? YOU'RE out of order, this whole court's out of order!" while pounding the table
― Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 4 April 2023 18:38 (one year ago) link
He doesn't look very confident in the first courtroom photos coming out or as he walked in. He looks exactly like a white collar criminal who knows he has run out of options.
― BrianB, Tuesday, 4 April 2023 18:42 (one year ago) link
there he is
First photo of Trump inside the courtroom @AP pic.twitter.com/kfq6JeGIHo— Jesse Rodriguez (@JesseRodriguez) April 4, 2023
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 4 April 2023 18:46 (one year ago) link
Specifically George Soros.
― Maggot Bairn (Tom D.), Tuesday, 4 April 2023 18:51 (one year ago) link
He looks like he was caught taking a shit in Rockefeller Center.
― the very juice and sperm of kindness. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 4 April 2023 18:51 (one year ago) link
part of me wants a mug shot, part of me doesn't want him to have the martyr-fuel
― The Terroir of Tiny Town (WmC), Tuesday, 4 April 2023 18:53 (one year ago) link
xxp Pilate was a Soros-funded animal
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 4 April 2023 18:53 (one year ago) link
and then he said "you're the best looking man I've ever mugshot, sir"
― StanM, Tuesday, 4 April 2023 18:53 (one year ago) link
The indictment has been unsealed
― castanuts (DJP), Tuesday, 4 April 2023 18:54 (one year ago) link
Will be live on the web shortly
And no mug shot will be taken, allegedly
― fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Tuesday, 4 April 2023 19:03 (one year ago) link
how will we know what the defendant looks like
― it's a new day in the international landscape (z_tbd), Tuesday, 4 April 2023 19:05 (one year ago) link
conspiracy charges appear to be in play
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Tuesday, 4 April 2023 19:12 (one year ago) link
Arrested for dropping mad dookie
― hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 4 April 2023 19:16 (one year ago) link
In my fevered imagination the defendant is wearing prison garb but for some reason also a stupidly long necktie in a boring solid color
― she loves me like a rock lobster (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 4 April 2023 19:32 (one year ago) link
No gag order, but Trump was warned about making social media posts that would potentially cause violence and unrest. I'm sure that'll work out
― fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Tuesday, 4 April 2023 19:42 (one year ago) link
Don jr posted a photo the judge's daughter during the hearing.
― BrianB, Tuesday, 4 April 2023 19:44 (one year ago) link
Dry reading buthttps://www.manhattanda.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/Donald-J.-Trump-Indictment.pdf
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 4 April 2023 19:45 (one year ago) link
Kind of surprising that there isn't more here than falsifying business records.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 4 April 2023 19:49 (one year ago) link
Ugh.
Stay classy, republipeeps
― she loves me like a rock lobster (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 4 April 2023 19:58 (one year ago) link
The Statement of Facts is more interesting than the indictment itself. Lays out the whole story, and yeah, it's more than just Stormy Daniels — it's her, Karen McDougal, and a Trump Tower doorman who claimed Trump had another, secret, kid.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 4 April 2023 20:00 (one year ago) link
!
― The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 4 April 2023 20:07 (one year ago) link
That secret kid? Shia LaBoeuf
― castanuts (DJP), Tuesday, 4 April 2023 20:15 (one year ago) link
Bragg strikes me as impressively assured in this press conference.
― the very juice and sperm of kindness. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 4 April 2023 20:21 (one year ago) link
Oh MY FUCKING GOD: MSNBC is showing a split screen of Bragg and Trump's getaway plane.
I'm done.
― the very juice and sperm of kindness. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 4 April 2023 20:22 (one year ago) link
Already seeing the MAGA headlines now:
OMG he fudged a few ledgers? Everyone does that.
I'm sharing the SOF for my friends instead.
Thanks for the links!
― hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 4 April 2023 20:23 (one year ago) link
OMG he fudged a few ledgers?
in the commission of another crime... therein lies the felony
― Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 4 April 2023 20:26 (one year ago) link
Alvin’s been like this since college
― castanuts (DJP), Tuesday, 4 April 2023 20:26 (one year ago) link
The right guy at the right time.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 4 April 2023 20:26 (one year ago) link
no conspiracy charge some sort of misunderstanding apparently
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 4 April 2023 20:30 (one year ago) link
Get the door yourself, chump
The court officers very much did not hold the door for Trump when he walked past the pool cameras pic.twitter.com/XvSlxjM8Qz— Peter Stevenson (@PeterStevenson) April 4, 2023
― The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 4 April 2023 21:03 (one year ago) link
― obsidian crocogolem (sleeve), Tuesday, 4 April 2023 21:05 (one year ago) link
Incoming tweetstorm: "The door thing was big - a thread"
― But his face would not turn into hot Kirby (Evan), Tuesday, 4 April 2023 21:06 (one year ago) link
those cops probably have electrical and drywall contractors in the family that were stiffed by Trump & Co. years ago
Nowhere is he despised more than in his own hometown
― Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 4 April 2023 21:09 (one year ago) link
I tend to think NYC cops are the only ones who have reason to dislike him.
― the very juice and sperm of kindness. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 4 April 2023 21:15 (one year ago) link
I'm putting together a screenplay about those cops. It practically writes itself
― But his face would not turn into hot Kirby (Evan), Tuesday, 4 April 2023 21:19 (one year ago) link
Title THE SNUB
― Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 4 April 2023 21:20 (one year ago) link
In the criminal justice system, crims committed by people with stupid hairdos are considered especially heinous.
DON DON
― she loves me like a rock lobster (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 4 April 2023 21:21 (one year ago) link
ACAB: All Cops Are Bad (At Door Etiquette)
DING (DON)G! Who's Hair? Don't Ding Don During Door Duty Dammit (riveting 6 episode docuseries)
― But his face would not turn into hot Kirby (Evan), Tuesday, 4 April 2023 21:30 (one year ago) link
lol @ Trump scowling about having to touch a door for the first time in decades
― Beautiful Bean Footage Fetishist (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 4 April 2023 21:43 (one year ago) link
Jonathan Chait's fetish for being told "Jesus, will you just fuck off?" remains as strong as ever...
― but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 4 April 2023 22:04 (one year ago) link
I assumed all the extremely fat white cops shown on TV were Proud Boys or Proud Boy adjacent. I doubt those pigs have anything but love for Trump.
― brotherlovesdub, Tuesday, 4 April 2023 22:15 (one year ago) link
ugh, unperson, by renaming your link you tricked me into opening NY Mag, which allows very few free articles, and which I'm not going to pay for, just to read this chud
― Dan S, Tuesday, 4 April 2023 22:21 (one year ago) link
bringing up the Comey stuff is dumb as shit, nobody had a problem with the email thing getting a thorough investigation, the problem was that he did it with literally 10 days to go, singlehandedly swinging the polls enough to let Trump squeak by. had we all known about the Stormy Daniels thing back then who knows? obviously Trump voters will stomach pretty much anything but a swing of like 0.2% is I think all it would've took.
― frogbs, Tuesday, 4 April 2023 22:22 (one year ago) link
stormy could have spoken up any time she wanted to.
― Thus Sang Freud, Tuesday, 4 April 2023 22:31 (one year ago) link
Always, always, always right-click links and select "Open in incognito browser window". Always.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 4 April 2023 22:32 (one year ago) link
Ken "Popehat" White is apparently unimpressed with the indictment, he usually has a solid legal read on this stuff
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Tuesday, 4 April 2023 22:34 (one year ago) link
Thus, she was under an NDA, aka DJT's favorite three letter acronym.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 4 April 2023 22:35 (one year ago) link
Fwiw I’ve heard a lot of legal guys say this investigation was kinda weak, but that he may be fucked on the GA and classified docs ones
― frogbs, Tuesday, 4 April 2023 22:39 (one year ago) link
To be fair to chait, if some conservative district was bringing similar charges against obama, i’d find it suspicious. It is an odd legal theory to make these felonies. (Obama is not an adulterer, I understand, but if he was).
― treeship., Tuesday, 4 April 2023 22:41 (one year ago) link
I'm not sure I agree, the instantaneous analysis of this by 'legal experts' on CNN, MSNBC etc. is what seems really weak, and it looks clear from his press conference that he knows what he's doing and has got a bigger case than they think he does. I don't know how the process works and Bragg didn't lay it all out in the indictments which are bare bones, but he seems to think there is ample evidence there was an ongoing conspiracy to falsify campaign records to influence an election
― Dan S, Tuesday, 4 April 2023 22:50 (one year ago) link
Whatever the case, it's gonna be a long time before this goes to trial, so I'm going to forget about this by, oh, thursday or friday as will everyone else
― Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 4 April 2023 22:54 (one year ago) link
lawyers I'm hanging with suggest the same, that these charges should not have been brought, probably, but the looming charges are less easy to dismiss.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 4 April 2023 22:57 (one year ago) link
The strength of Bragg's case is that it doesn't hinge on a vaguely worded law and he has credible witnesses. The easiest part is that the statements were provably false. Beyond that they believe they can bring credible witnesses who will speak to his knowledge of their falsity, his intent to deceive, his motive for deception, and his knowledge of the illegality of that deception. If they convince a jury these are the simple facts of the case, then the legal requirements of the law would compel a guilty verdict.
It all has to go to trial first, though. That's ages away.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 4 April 2023 23:08 (one year ago) link
xp yes the federal and georgia charges do not seem like small potatoes to me. with this case i don’t understand how it is different from what john edwards was acquitted of but then again I am not a lawyer, just a humble poster
― treeship., Tuesday, 4 April 2023 23:25 (one year ago) link
love this (from the Guardian):
As Trump was in court, pleading not guilty to the charges, his supporters had started to drift away from their protest area. The more buttoned-down supporters – the types who will wear a hat, but can’t be bothered carrying a flag, seemed to leave first, leaving behind an assortment of kooks and weirdos who contributed to a slightly surreal atmosphere.
One woman kept saying the United Nations building, about three miles to the north, was the “Synagogue of Satan”. A man tried, in vain, to get a rather convoluted chant about gender pronouns going.
― Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 4 April 2023 23:34 (one year ago) link
I don't understand why we give a shit how small fry this indictment is. Goddamn, people: celebrate it! Then get involved.
― the very juice and sperm of kindness. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 4 April 2023 23:36 (one year ago) link
yeah - salad comes before dinnerthis is just the opening course
― Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 4 April 2023 23:39 (one year ago) link
so if trump went to prison would the secret service have to protect him there
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 4 April 2023 23:49 (one year ago) link
no, he'd have to join a gang of other disgraced financiers out in the yard
― Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 4 April 2023 23:51 (one year ago) link
lol mookieproof, good question
― obsidian crocogolem (sleeve), Tuesday, 4 April 2023 23:53 (one year ago) link
I don’t think the indictment is ‘an odd legal theory’ or ‘small potatoes’ or that it ‘should not have been brought’, I think that that is just rhetoric we accept from lawyers
and lawyers in my experience are brainwashed by law school and in some sense are the most naive people I've ever met
― Dan S, Wednesday, 5 April 2023 00:02 (one year ago) link
hence why ever hack SCOTUS justice gets "brilliant" modifying their names.
― the very juice and sperm of kindness. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 5 April 2023 00:03 (one year ago) link
Have any of his supporters argued that what he did was not illegal? Anyway, it really doesn't matter if it's small or big potatoes. This is our legal system. Godspeed, you big asshole, this is what often happens when you do crimes, you get charged with criminality and get a chance to defend yourself.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 5 April 2023 00:32 (one year ago) link
Yeah if you don't want to be in criminal court being charged with crimes, maybe don't do so much criming like a crimey criminal all the flippin time.
― she loves me like a rock lobster (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 5 April 2023 00:35 (one year ago) link
xp ok but you just posted your lawyer friends were saying charges should not have been brought
― Dan S, Wednesday, 5 April 2023 00:38 (one year ago) link
I'm not sure that naivety is an accurate descriptor. For a prosecutor, the question about whether to charge always has to include the questions, Can I get a conviction? And will it be sustained on appeal? I think many lawyers, with reason, question whether charging a former president with what is usually a misdemeanor, bootstrapped here into a felony, is a good idea.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 5 April 2023 00:41 (one year ago) link
this just happens to be the opening salvo because it's the oldest of the myriad crimes iirc? I'll take it.
― obsidian crocogolem (sleeve), Wednesday, 5 April 2023 00:42 (one year ago) link
Without doubt, the Georgia and federal cases are much more serious.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 5 April 2023 00:43 (one year ago) link
A classic of the genre
Donald Trump during his arraignment. Courtroom sketch by 🎨 Jane Rosenberg pic.twitter.com/DdfXkHhnUA— Reuters Pictures (@reuterspictures) April 4, 2023
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 5 April 2023 00:47 (one year ago) link
Yeah, lawyer friends were just thinking lawyer strategy. There are more crimes than there are charges and trials, because prosecutors pick and choose which to pursue (or so I was told). If this were the only case it would seem desperate, but it's not, and Trump's I presume live in progress outrage I imagine is disproportionately focused on today and not the tougher stuff in store.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 5 April 2023 00:49 (one year ago) link
one thing about this indictment is someone has already gone to prison for the crime and that person is a prosecution witness, so in that sense i could see a prosecutor thinking it was a pretty good choice, whether its politically a good choice idk maybe they dont care
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 5 April 2023 00:50 (one year ago) link
Cohen was convicted in federal court for tax evasion, making a false statement to a financial institution, excessive campaign contributions and other federal crimes. He was also convicted of perjury in his Congressional testimony. So, crimes arising out of the same set of facts, but different crimes in different court.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 5 April 2023 00:54 (one year ago) link
that argument actually resonated with the same lawyer friends.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 5 April 2023 00:58 (one year ago) link
people are saying its small beans but you gotta think that regardless the size of the beans the prosecutions gotta think they have a very strong case here
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 5 April 2023 01:00 (one year ago) link
The news here this morning was showing some pro-Trump campaign nutter speculating that all this will just whoosh him right into the white house in '24.
Which leads me to ask - please don't tell me your country allows felons, or those with felonies hanging over them, to be president. My bf says "they'll allow a president from jail if they could" but surely that isnt right please tell me that isn't right.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Wednesday, 5 April 2023 01:00 (one year ago) link
well weve never actually elected a felon
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 5 April 2023 01:01 (one year ago) link
you gotta think that regardless the size of the beans the prosecutions gotta think they have a very strong case here
That is true. "You come at the king, you best not miss."
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 5 April 2023 01:02 (one year ago) link
there is no way he will be president again
many xps
Yeah, lawyer friends were just thinking lawyer strategy
which I think is naive
I’m not talking about prosecutors. Most lawyers are not prosecutors and are not having to deal with these questions. (I know you all hate prosecutors here.) I was just speaking about the lawyers I know. One of my best friends graduated from UC Berkeley's Law School. He has made a career out of being a general counsel, as a company’s main source of legal advice. He has been very successful. But when I talk to him about national politics I’m kind of taken aback by his sunny law school optimism about the legal system and law strategy
― Dan S, Wednesday, 5 April 2023 01:03 (one year ago) link
hate to tell you Trayce, but yes it is OK according to the law as written. there are states where felons can't own guns or vote, but I think those laws are wrong and bad and I'd probably (very reluctantly) have to agree here, if some rad progressive person with a felony ran I would want to vote for them
― obsidian crocogolem (sleeve), Wednesday, 5 April 2023 01:03 (one year ago) link
xp It's not naive. We don't go to court to lose.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 5 April 2023 01:04 (one year ago) link
xp to sleeve I get your point, assuming you mean someone who, lets say, was arrested for an abortion or a protest sit-in or similar. It just feels wrong if its a crimimal record for going against the fabric of democracy, but now I'm getting in over my head as far as my understanding of US civics.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Wednesday, 5 April 2023 01:05 (one year ago) link
i feel bad that everyone in the world follows our politics lol its not great
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 5 April 2023 01:06 (one year ago) link
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, April 4, 2023
ok, maybe it's just that the lawyers I know don't go to court, they manage mergers and acquisitions or are the general counsel for a company. so 'lawyer friends giving their opinion' is not relevant to me
― Dan S, Wednesday, 5 April 2023 01:13 (one year ago) link
lol lag we dont get much choice, the media shovel it down our throats like we're fois gras geese.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Wednesday, 5 April 2023 01:14 (one year ago) link
its that old hollywood razzle dazzle + being the global hegemon
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 5 April 2023 01:17 (one year ago) link
I am watching this on loop mad giggling
https://fb.watch/jIE12Qt3Kn/?mibextid=YCRy0i
― hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 5 April 2023 03:10 (one year ago) link
Trumper face planting
making a felony conviction a bar to running for or holding office, aside from requiring a constitutional amendment, would just mean Bernie Sanders or Hilary Clinton would be convicted of felonies in Idaho or Florida within seconds of announcing they were running.
― the absence of bikes (f. hazel), Wednesday, 5 April 2023 04:07 (one year ago) link
it should be illegal to be a Trump and run for President.
― hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 5 April 2023 04:08 (one year ago) link
he's going to win the election because the media can't help focusing on him. no other issues/themes matter.
― StanM, Wednesday, 5 April 2023 09:26 (one year ago) link
eugene debs ran for US president from jail in 1920 (his fifth run)
the actual 1920 winner was warren g. harding lol, destroyed by a scandal called "teapot dome" (which im sorry is a v funny and humiliating name for a scandal) and died in office basically of being sad and being owned
― mark s, Wednesday, 5 April 2023 09:34 (one year ago) link
― StanM, Wednesday, April 5, 2023
oh please
― the very juice and sperm of kindness. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 5 April 2023 09:37 (one year ago) link
He hasn't come close to winning an election since he lost to Hillary Clinton in the popular vote but won the election anyway.
― Maggot Bairn (Tom D.), Wednesday, 5 April 2023 10:18 (one year ago) link
he came very close to winning vs biden
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 5 April 2023 12:29 (one year ago) link
I‘be settled on the opinion that that election was close but not nearly as close as cable news wanted us to think it was
― castanuts (DJP), Wednesday, 5 April 2023 12:32 (one year ago) link
When it comes to litigators (Ken White is one), esp. Federal litigators or lawyers who understand the federal system, I'd def. take their word over a transactional/business/contracts lawyer. A litigator has/does work with DAs and understand a *different part* of the legal system than yr business lawyers. You wouldn't get a DA to work on closing a deal/transactional stuff.
It sucks that Trump has put the country in this position but it does speak to the complexities of our legal and political systems--I agree the GA case and the docs case are much bigger potatoes. Trump doesn't even go back to court for this case until December.
fwiw I don't think there's any chance he gets close to Biden if when he runs again. WI is looking blue, and there's no way he's winning MI--which is now very blue
― a (waterface), Wednesday, 5 April 2023 12:38 (one year ago) link
the sucky part is he's exploiting a system that benefits people like him--not just white guys, but white guys in his line of work in NYC
― a (waterface), Wednesday, 5 April 2023 12:39 (one year ago) link
― castanuts (DJP), Wednesday, April 5, 2023 8:32 AM (five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
45k votes across three states
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 5 April 2023 12:40 (one year ago) link
re the strength of the case
The books and records counts laid out in the charging papers against Mr. Trump are the bread and butter of the D.A.’s office. Mr. Trump, who pleaded not guilty to all charges on Tuesday, is the 30th defendant to be indicted on false records charges by Mr. Bragg since he took office just over a year ago, with the D.A. bringing 151 counts under the statute so far. Indeed, the Trump Organization conviction and the Weisselberg plea included business falsification felonies.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/04/04/opinion/donald-trump-alvin-bragg-indictment-charges.html
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 5 April 2023 13:34 (one year ago) link
ha! from a lawyer standpoint (I'm not a lawyer) i'd def take the word of a former prosecuting attorney over a business lawyer--kind of wild to me that the Ian Twitter guy and Elie Mystal are pessimistic about it. Also Ken White/Popehat's blog said the opposite that the nyt article does--"we still have no idea what the heart of this case is."
also a good reminder that just because someone is writing as a lawyer, doesn't mean they know what they're talking about
― a (waterface), Wednesday, 5 April 2023 13:44 (one year ago) link
Thanks Electoral College. Whatta system.
― Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 5 April 2023 14:16 (one year ago) link
I’m of the opinion that he should be arrested, charged and tried as often as possible, for every crime he has committed where there is enough evidence to build a case. Forget about whether he may or may not be found guilty. Was there a crime? Is there a case? Charge him. Just keep him in the criminal court system for as much time as possible, where he is unable to control the messaging, is not on his own schedule, and is not in charge of the situation. Get those photos out there in the news where he looks resigned and sulky and guilty as f*ck. That’s what people will see. Nobody new will tune into his press conferences and get riled up on his behalf. But people will see the photos and read the headlines and know that this is a fallen human being with no political future, with always another criminal indictment looming on the horizon. The more criminal cases and trial appearances he has to focus on and worry about, the less time he has to strategize and campaign and do the things he wants to do. As the indictments pile up, eventually he will look like nothing more than a rat in a trap, not a viable candidate for public office. Keep it coming.
― epistantophus, Wednesday, 5 April 2023 14:20 (one year ago) link
^ how I break it down to an extent
― castanuts (DJP), Wednesday, 5 April 2023 14:32 (one year ago) link
otm. plus fatigue is a thing. Trump will always have a brainwashed herd that show up to sweat blood and tears for him, but lots of protesters are going to get tired of showing up to protest on the second, third, fourth indictments, much less keep up with them. many are spooked by January 6th arrests (as they should be). they're already talking themselves out of showing up due to their own conspiracy theories.
this one's getting all the buzz among his followers because it's the first one, but the novelty wears off, even they'll get bored.
― hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 5 April 2023 14:33 (one year ago) link
yes I don't understand how anyone who isn't MAGA and lived through the last seven year could wring their hands and go, "Hells bells! I wish we could find stronger charges!" It's so like a (white) liberal to not embrace a victory, however fleeting.
― the very juice and sperm of kindness. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 5 April 2023 14:34 (one year ago) link
if it were really a weak case that just fell apart that would be not great imo, but it doesnt seem like its that, so i mean get his ass
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 5 April 2023 14:36 (one year ago) link
and i seriously doubt that any prosecutor is going to try to get him on some weak shit anyway prob not worth worrying about
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 5 April 2023 14:37 (one year ago) link
but lots of protesters are going to get tired of showing up to protest on the second, third, fourth indictments
they didn't even show up to this one!
epistantophus very OTM, I know people are still pretending that political gravity doesn't exist since Trump won, but the last 6 years sure seem to suggest otherwise. this particular case might not sway much but when he's charged with trying to overturn the election in Georgia/stealing classified docs (and ignoring the subpoena, as we just found out yesterday!)/inciting an insurrection you can be damn sure that he's not gonna be talked about like an "outsider" or a "businessman" like he was in 2016 but rather as a criminal. even garbage outlets like the New York Times and CNN are referring to him that way now. he'll probably still win the nomination but I just don't think he has any chance in the general
― frogbs, Wednesday, 5 April 2023 14:41 (one year ago) link
I think, per epistantophus's point, we're already missing how badly he lost yesterday morning around when he was heading over to court when the DC Circuit said 'lol no' to his attempt to stop a slew of various WH aides etc from testifying to the J6 grand jury. To give you an idea of how that played out, Ken Cuccinelli *already* went in yesterday afternoon to answer questions as a result -- Trump didn't even try to appeal to the Supreme Court, and two to one we're going to hear about a lot more people going on (not to mention members of his own Secret Service detail in the documents case on Friday, and then there's Good Ol' Mike Pence, etc.). I read all his (lack of) energy yesterday and playing the hits at a briefer speech last night -- along with his returning to venting spleen about defunding the DOJ and FBI via social media -- as adding to all that.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 5 April 2023 14:42 (one year ago) link
to frogbs' point:
The counties of Waukesha, Ozaukee, and Washington — collectively known as the WOW counties — have been the centerpiece of any Republican victory in Wisconsin for decades.
But they brought mostly bad news for Republicans on Tuesday.
The counties, which surround Milwaukee, have been emblematic of the shift in the state during the Trump era. They collectively have not voted for a Democrat for president since Lyndon Johnson, but have gradually trended more Democratic over the last decade.
On Tuesday, former state Supreme Court Justice Dan Kelly was still on track to win all three of those crucial counties. But the margins continue to shrink for Republicans there — a bright red, flashing warning side for the GOP ahead of the 2024 elections.
Notably, Protasiewicz came dangerously close to outright winning in Ozaukee County, trailing Kelly by roughly five points in a county that Mitt Romney won by roughly 30 points a decade ago.
And perhaps even more concerning for Republicans: A special election for a red-leaning state Senate seat in the WOW counties on Tuesday is a nailbiter. Should Jodi Habush Sinykin, the Democratic candidate, eventually pull off the win, it would flip the seat for Democrats — and prevent Republicans from picking up a supermajority in the state Senate.
Tuesday’s election brought even more good news for Democrats elsewhere in the state.
Dane County, which is home to Madison, is one of the fastest growing regions. The area saw incredibly high turnout on Tuesday for a spring off-year election — and Protasiewicz won the county by a lopsided margin. The area is quickly turning into Democrats’ mini blue wall in the state.
― the very juice and sperm of kindness. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 5 April 2023 14:42 (one year ago) link
AFAIC, him dragging out his base for as long as possible and his various wannabe rivals and regional bootlickers all trying to pretend he's worthy of defense is absolutely worth it at this point. Lots of wasted time, energy, money (seriously, at a certain point that's going to turn into no more than a steady tap flow at best, and likely not even that) and that's fine with me.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 5 April 2023 14:43 (one year ago) link
To give you an idea of how that played out, Ken Cuccinelli *already* went in yesterday afternoon to answer questions as a result -- Trump didn't even try to appeal to the Supreme Court
wow, I totally missed this. that's huge
― hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 5 April 2023 14:44 (one year ago) link
also can I point out that Janet Protasiewicz won by over 11 points here yesterday in the swing state of Wisconsin and from what I can gather a lot of that had to do with the fact that if Kelly won the state would be turbofucked into permanent Republican control. that sort of thing really does seem to turn voters off (or at least drive up turnout on the other side) so I can only imagine what having Trump on the ballot again would do.
― frogbs, Wednesday, 5 April 2023 14:45 (one year ago) link
xpost It is! And it went under the radar precisely because of the spectacle, but don't ignore it in the slightest.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 5 April 2023 14:46 (one year ago) link
The size of Protasiewicz's victory astounded me, actually.
― the very juice and sperm of kindness. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 5 April 2023 14:47 (one year ago) link
Notably, Protasiewicz came dangerously close to outright winning in Ozaukee County
that's where my Mom used to live and it's about as Trumpy an area as I've seen here, seems like really bad news for them
― frogbs, Wednesday, 5 April 2023 14:48 (one year ago) link
in lieu of a trial, Trump is going to request a Wild West duel at 10 paces, and will realize at the 8th pace that he has no idea how to shoot a gun.
― hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 5 April 2023 14:49 (one year ago) link
it would astound me if any of you could spell her name from memory.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 5 April 2023 14:50 (one year ago) link
I can after two Negronis.
― the very juice and sperm of kindness. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 5 April 2023 14:53 (one year ago) link
along with his returning to venting spleen about defunding the DOJ and FBI via social media
can't imagine this kind of thing is gonna help him either, Trump has always been the kind of person willing to burn the whole system down to save his own skin which I think will not play well in a general election
― frogbs, Wednesday, 5 April 2023 14:54 (one year ago) link
xpost that would be a good sobriety test.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 5 April 2023 14:56 (one year ago) link
we're already missing how badly he lost yesterday morning around when he was heading over to court when the DC Circuit said 'lol no' to his attempt to stop a slew of various WH aides etc from testifying to the J6 grand jury. To give you an idea of how that played out, Ken Cuccinelli *already* went in yesterday afternoon to answer questions as a result -- Trump didn't even try to appeal to the Supreme Court
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, April 5, 2023 10:42 AM (thirteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
wonder if he just forgot
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 5 April 2023 14:57 (one year ago) link
"there was *something* I was supposed to do today, I tied a string around my finger"
― hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 5 April 2023 15:06 (one year ago) link
My tiny finger
― Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 5 April 2023 15:09 (one year ago) link
he did not look good in those court pics
― a (waterface), Wednesday, 5 April 2023 15:11 (one year ago) link
i mean he never looks good but
if he keeps frowning like that his face will freeze that way.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 5 April 2023 15:14 (one year ago) link
In re those advisors having to testify, this story notes what some had been asked about already earlier in the year, plus:
Cuccinelli was spotted going back into the grand jury on Tuesday, April 4.Without that privilege shield, former officials must answer questions about their interactions and conversations with the former president, including what he was told about the lack of evidence for election fraud and the legal remedies he could pursue.That line of questioning goes to the heart of Smith’s challenge in any criminal case he might bring – to prove that Trump and his allies pursued their efforts despite knowing their fraud claims were false or their gambits weren’t lawful. To bring any potential criminal charges, prosecutors would have to overcome Trump’s public claim that he believed then and now that fraud really did cost him the election.“There’s lots of ways you can show that. But certainly one of them is if they were told by people who knew what they were talking about, that that there was no basis to take the actions,” said Adav Noti, an election law attorney who previously served in the US Attorney’s Office in Washington, DC, and at the Federal Election Commission’s general counsel’s office.“I would not want to be a defense lawyer trying to argue, ‘Well, yes, my client was told that, but he never really believed it,’” Noti said.
Without that privilege shield, former officials must answer questions about their interactions and conversations with the former president, including what he was told about the lack of evidence for election fraud and the legal remedies he could pursue.
That line of questioning goes to the heart of Smith’s challenge in any criminal case he might bring – to prove that Trump and his allies pursued their efforts despite knowing their fraud claims were false or their gambits weren’t lawful. To bring any potential criminal charges, prosecutors would have to overcome Trump’s public claim that he believed then and now that fraud really did cost him the election.
“There’s lots of ways you can show that. But certainly one of them is if they were told by people who knew what they were talking about, that that there was no basis to take the actions,” said Adav Noti, an election law attorney who previously served in the US Attorney’s Office in Washington, DC, and at the Federal Election Commission’s general counsel’s office.
“I would not want to be a defense lawyer trying to argue, ‘Well, yes, my client was told that, but he never really believed it,’” Noti said.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 5 April 2023 16:17 (one year ago) link
I know people are still pretending that political gravity doesn't exist since Trump won, but the last 6 years sure seem to suggest otherwise.
people are still astounded that he won in 2016 and that has left them believing the up is down and left is right and this fuckin hateable asshat could one day cause an upset like that again, even though he's been box office poison at the ballot box since the very moment he won.
― dicbo=v2-ubswizzb&hrt (stevie), Wednesday, 5 April 2023 16:18 (one year ago) link
I have no way to assess the likelihood of conviction here, but I don't think there's a universe where "Well, those hush payments to the porn star didn't actually break any laws" is a good headline for him. Of course if he's acquitted Trump will declare massive victory etc, but I think the primary effect of all of this for anyone except true Trump believers is exhaustion with the whole idea and persona of Trump.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 5 April 2023 16:23 (one year ago) link
I just remember Trump's presidency, where "payoffs to a porn star" was a non-needle moving event that quickly got swept into the whole Trump-gets-away-with-everything narrative and normalized.
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Wednesday, 5 April 2023 16:37 (one year ago) link
lets roll lol
Trump just called for — wait for it — defunding federal police.— Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) April 5, 2023
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 5 April 2023 16:43 (one year ago) link
HE ADMIT IT
"The only crime that I have committed is to fearlessly defend our nation from those who seek to destroy it," the 76-year-old told supporters
I remember when Hillary Clinton was asked at a debate whether she had any faults, and it was something like "I guess my main fault is just caring too much"
― Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 5 April 2023 16:43 (one year ago) link
Hard to say, really. The guy didn't get re-elected. I don't think the Stormy Daniels story was a big part of that, but I don't think it's entirely negligible. If you think about those precious purple suburbs where Trump underperformed, I think the general miasma of ickiness about him was a factor. So to the degree that all of this keeps that miasma front and center, I don't think it does him any favors regardless of the verdict.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 5 April 2023 16:58 (one year ago) link
it's a lot easier to wriggle out of jams when you're President! many legal scholars believe you *can't* indict a President, plus you have all of the various wings of government at your disposal to use as he did.
― hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 5 April 2023 17:01 (one year ago) link
and while Biden's approval ratings currently suck, he was above 50% significantly longer than Trump ever was. Trump eventually settled into a 40-45% floor after the tax code changes passed, but before that dude was cratering in his first year (was once 16% underwater in a Rasmussen poll).
his devoted followers believe he can do no wrong, but they're not who lifted him into the White House. Independent voters, disillusioned (read: DUMB) Democrats etc pushed him across the finish line, and a significant number of them said things like "He's just saying <thing> to get elected, he won't be all that bad" or "His power will really be limited and he'll be more middle of the road", and many of those people began having buyer's remorse on Day 1, others came around to it later.
Independents *are* the type that could easily break away from Biden because they tend to be the wishy washy type, but the thing about Trump in 2016 vs now is people were voting for a potential outcome in 2016, and now they have 4 hours of empirical evidence, and unlike 2020, he's not an incumbent anymore.
― hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 5 April 2023 17:07 (one year ago) link
that said, I don't see Trump getting blown out even in "Obama-McCain" or "Obama-Romney" fashion. he'll probably clear 200 EVs easily just like last time.
― hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 5 April 2023 17:08 (one year ago) link
At this point if the Republican nominee were an inanimate carbon rod it would clear 200 EV easily, as long as it promised to "take back our nation" and defeat the evil schemes of the socialist traitors.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 5 April 2023 17:24 (one year ago) link
Inanimate Carbon Rod is my new porn name.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 5 April 2023 17:28 (one year ago) link
it would be particularly satisfying to see him get nailed down on this, because central to Trump's whole persona is that he doesn't really believe in anything besides his own greatness and I think that is part of what made him essentially bulletproof. so many Republicans defended him by saying "well, I don't know about the truthfulness of it, but it is clearly a valid feeling that he shares with many Republicans" which is such a bullshit argument and one I don't think any other politician could really get away with.
― frogbs, Wednesday, 5 April 2023 17:30 (one year ago) link
I daresay carbon rod would outpoll Pence rn
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 5 April 2023 17:30 (one year ago) link
I think it’s also worth noting that his personality is such that, the more legal trouble he’s in, the less he can stop himself from digging himself a deeper hole. Case in point, the judge told him specifically not to make any statements that might jeopardize the rule of law or cause civil unrest (as he has a well-documented history of doing!), and he immediately went on the offensive against the judge and the prosecutor that same day. He can’t help himself- it’s what he thinks he needs to do in order to “win” and look strong- even when he is under a legal microscope. The more legal jeopardy he is in, the more opportunity he has to slip up, say the wrong thing, go off script, etc., so I say let’s give him every opportunity to make things worse for himself.
― epistantophus, Wednesday, 5 April 2023 17:32 (one year ago) link
^^^ the Alex Jones Effect
― castanuts (DJP), Wednesday, 5 April 2023 17:38 (one year ago) link
Contempt of court seems like a good bet, if only because Trump truly holds the court system in contempt.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 5 April 2023 17:40 (one year ago) link
Ah, Day Two of every relationship between Trump and a new lawyer, when Trump still pretends to be a good client and the same Trump-whisperers pretend he writes the polite statements. https://t.co/SH0tIQ5HqX— emptywheel (@emptywheel) April 5, 2023
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 5 April 2023 17:59 (one year ago) link
"sooo" is a nice touch
― treeship., Wednesday, 5 April 2023 18:01 (one year ago) link
Ha, I think he's gotten word of the delight the nation felt when those cops didn't hold the door open for him
― Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 5 April 2023 18:01 (one year ago) link
damn looks like hes getting off
BREAKING: Donald Trump's former attorney Alan Dershowitz admits that the indictment looks grim for the ex-president and says that he "probably will be convicted by a New York jury" and he doesn't think that he could "could get this case dismissed so easily" and it would be a…— Occupy Democrats (@OccupyDemocrats) April 5, 2023
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 5 April 2023 18:52 (one year ago) link
BREAKING
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Wednesday, 5 April 2023 18:53 (one year ago) link
Occupy Democrats is 100% exhausting
― castanuts (DJP), Wednesday, 5 April 2023 18:55 (one year ago) link
― Perverted By Linguiça (sleeve), Wednesday, 5 April 2023 19:14 (one year ago) link
otm seconded. That perpetual outrage isn't any more palatable to me when Occupy does it than Fox News.
― Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 5 April 2023 19:29 (one year ago) link
Outrage is fine, being a source-free clown show isn’t
― castanuts (DJP), Wednesday, 5 April 2023 19:31 (one year ago) link
In more down to earth stuff:
NEWS: Mike Pence will NOT appeal a court order to testify to Jack Smith's Jan. 6 grand jury.https://t.co/kTB1fWwquq— Kyle Cheney (@kyledcheney) April 5, 2023
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 5 April 2023 19:56 (one year ago) link
(This was already kinda clear from the other week, but that's that. Reminder that Boasberg, the new judge in charge of things in general on the DC circuit but who has essentially approached everything so far much like Howell, told him "Yeah there are specific speech and debate things you aren't obligated to testify about but you still have to talk about anything illegal Trump did." Fun!)
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 5 April 2023 19:58 (one year ago) link
Relatedly from the NYT story on this about the other aides who are being compelled to testify:
With their options narrowing, some of the witnesses who have recently lost their attempts to assert forms of privilege to avoid answering questions may soon take another tack and assert their Fifth Amendment right against self-incrimination, according to people familiar with the matter.
Kinda inevitable: you either consult with your lawyer, talk to the prosecution in hopes re immunity and sell out Trump or take the Fifth and likely get charged as a result. Poor souls!
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 5 April 2023 20:22 (one year ago) link
― assert (matttkkkk), Wednesday, 5 April 2023 20:22 (one year ago) link
Separately, doing great over there:
Last night Trump mused about what Jack Smith's name possibly was before, indicating he has changed it or something. This is something Trump has been suggesting privately, often saying "if that's really even his name" when talking about the special counsel, per several people.— Kaitlan Collins (@kaitlancollins) April 5, 2023
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 5 April 2023 20:26 (one year ago) link
Jack Soros.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 5 April 2023 20:26 (one year ago) link
Tbf, his birth certificate probably reads 'John Smith' not Jack.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 5 April 2023 20:28 (one year ago) link
suuuuuure
― Perverted By Linguiça (sleeve), Wednesday, 5 April 2023 20:29 (one year ago) link
Weird
― treeship., Wednesday, 5 April 2023 23:34 (one year ago) link
Could be an antisemitism thing.
― treeship., Wednesday, 5 April 2023 23:35 (one year ago) link
https://scontent-ord5-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/340075196_246219684491505_5357333091311833151_n.png?stp=dst-png_p526x296&_nc_cat=109&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=9267fe&_nc_ohc=2KL5dUvgV0UAX9aq9A5&_nc_ht=scontent-ord5-1.xx&oh=00_AfByj1LJfyEWP-p2xWkCJTa8W9FjbvM3ePgz2ThztPpEyw&oe=643353C0
First time the NY'er is using a courtroom sketch as a cover.
― The Terroir of Tiny Town (WmC), Thursday, 6 April 2023 02:31 (one year ago) link
lol that is not flattering
― lag∞n, Thursday, 6 April 2023 02:34 (one year ago) link
The New Yorker has not been quiet, to date, on its contempt for the orange individual. There have been a bunch of anti-Trump covers.
That said, I am pretty sure there is not a single Trump supporter who reads the New Yorker or gives a shit what it thinks of them.
Like, New Yorker readers (of whom I am one!) are a subset of a subset of mostly coastal liberals.
Us coastal liberals may get a mild chuckle from this but let's be realistic - it does not even budge the needle of national politics.
I will never not love that magazine but I am fully aware that it's conversation with its audience is a circular one. It preaches to a very specific choir.
― the importance of being urdu (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 6 April 2023 03:05 (one year ago) link
NY'er knows this will rile him something fierce. good on them!
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 6 April 2023 03:06 (one year ago) link
Aimless otm
― Perverted By Linguiça (sleeve), Thursday, 6 April 2023 03:14 (one year ago) link
Yer a mean one, Mr. Trump
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 6 April 2023 03:27 (one year ago) link
All credit to Jane Rosenberg, the artist. I bet Drew Friedman said "oh hell yeah."
― The Terroir of Tiny Town (WmC), Thursday, 6 April 2023 03:31 (one year ago) link
he loves being hated and the new yorker love hating him. the relationship between trump and places like the new yorker is symbiotic.
― treeship., Thursday, 6 April 2023 03:39 (one year ago) link
I think "codependent" is closer
― assert (matttkkkk), Thursday, 6 April 2023 03:42 (one year ago) link
Mouly has had the job for thirty years this year; pretty sure she’s done it well in most of those without considering Trump, let alone his reaction to her choices, and I doubt that he has ever even thought of her having an opinion, an aesthetic, or an identifiable editorial approach.
― least said, sergio mendes (sic), Thursday, 6 April 2023 04:13 (one year ago) link
Last night Trump mused about what Jack Smith's name possibly was before, indicating he has changed it or something. This is something Trump has been suggesting privately, often saying "if that's really even his name" when talking about the special counsel, per several people.
Basically he's too lazy to invent his latest conspiracy theories and, instead, just asks a question that gets his base to start making shit up
― fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Thursday, 6 April 2023 15:24 (one year ago) link
I'm not saying that Hillary Clinton is a shapeshifting lizard creature, but I'm also not NOT saying it, if you take my meaning.
― the importance of being urdu (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 6 April 2023 15:26 (one year ago) link
seems like he just thought the name jack smith seemed too generic, so then he must be a spy, maybe a jewish trans spy
― lag∞n, Thursday, 6 April 2023 15:27 (one year ago) link
Early colonial America was explored by Commodore Giuseppe O'Malley Chan-McGillycuddy. But that was deemed too ridiculous, hence the creation of the fictional Captain John Smith.
― the importance of being urdu (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 6 April 2023 15:44 (one year ago) link
it was...jack drumpf, nobody wants that
― alright alright alright alright (Hunt3r), Thursday, 6 April 2023 15:45 (one year ago) link
Kind of amazed at the anti-Semitism this guy gets away with.
― Maggot Bairn (Tom D.), Thursday, 6 April 2023 16:09 (one year ago) link
it's pretty much accepted mainstream behavior over here these days unless you are saying something bad about Israel
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Thursday, 6 April 2023 16:16 (one year ago) link
"He tells it like it is" is conversational shorthand for "I'm also reprehensible".
― the body of a spider... (scampering alpaca), Thursday, 6 April 2023 16:20 (one year ago) link
nice to live in a world where every belief spreads by meme and link
"THINK FOR YOURSELF, SHEEP", says the people who do nothing but share one person's tweets all day
― Trout Fishing in America (Neanderthal), Thursday, 6 April 2023 16:23 (one year ago) link
i guess you can't call them Tweets since Trump posts them on another platform
Teets
― m0stly clean (Slowsquatch), Thursday, 6 April 2023 16:56 (one year ago) link
Speaking your mind is not a virtue when your mind is a dumpster fire.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 6 April 2023 16:56 (one year ago) link
Troompths
― the importance of being urdu (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 6 April 2023 17:56 (one year ago) link
New w @maggieNYT: Former President Donald J. Trump has told aides to hire Laura Loomer, a far-right and anti-Muslim activist, for a campaign role, according to four people familiar with the plans. https://t.co/IsCZFZgTcY— Jonathan Swan (@jonathanvswan) April 7, 2023
IT LOOMS.
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Friday, 7 April 2023 16:44 (one year ago) link
― c u (crüt), Friday, 7 April 2023 16:54 (one year ago) link
bigots to the front
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 7 April 2023 16:56 (one year ago) link
she's going to chain herself to the mailbox of the courthouse
― Trout Fishing in America (Neanderthal), Friday, 7 April 2023 16:57 (one year ago) link
I mean, why not? His Muslim ban didn't hurt him; in fact, it probably helped him.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 7 April 2023 17:06 (one year ago) link
“Laura Loomer” = it’s like the name of a supervillain from a 1976 Marvel comic
― The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 7 April 2023 17:08 (one year ago) link
i only vaguely know who she is. his campaign will obviously be staffed by alt media goons and goblins like duh.
― treeship., Friday, 7 April 2023 17:09 (one year ago) link
and if he is elected, his cabinet will consist of these people, not the washington conservative insiders he relied upon in his first term. just look at what was left of his legal team by the time he left office.
― treeship., Friday, 7 April 2023 17:10 (one year ago) link
xxp -- w/the LL initials she should be DC
― The Terroir of Tiny Town (WmC), Friday, 7 April 2023 17:10 (one year ago) link
I still remember a colleague of mine saying, after Trump won in 2016, that he wouldn't be so bad because "he'll be surrounded by good, competent people."
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 7 April 2023 17:11 (one year ago) link
are you sure he didn't say "incontinent people"
― Trout Fishing in America (Neanderthal), Friday, 7 April 2023 17:22 (one year ago) link
No, this guy is a Republican. I think he was whistling past the graveyard.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 7 April 2023 17:27 (one year ago) link
lol loomer is such a d lister just utterly bottom shelf did bill mitchell turn him down
― lag∞n, Friday, 7 April 2023 17:28 (one year ago) link
I hear James O'Keefe neeeds a job. Jacob Wohl probably available too.
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Friday, 7 April 2023 17:31 (one year ago) link
― michel goindry (wins), Friday, 7 April 2023 17:35 (one year ago) link
is Wohl a free man at the moment
― Trout Fishing in America (Neanderthal), Friday, 7 April 2023 17:36 (one year ago) link
xp Could be. He's a big supporter of Brian Kemp, who has much the same agenda but is much quieter about it.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 7 April 2023 17:39 (one year ago) link
wow you hate to see this sort of infighting
Laura Loomer is mentally unstable and a documented liar. She can not be trusted.She spent months lying about me and attacking me just because I supported Kevin McCarthy for Speaker and after I had refused to endorse her last election cycle. She loves the alleged FBI… pic.twitter.com/1D78hU59Z0— Marjorie Taylor Greene 🇺🇸 (@mtgreenee) April 7, 2023
― lag∞n, Friday, 7 April 2023 17:41 (one year ago) link
If he’s reduced to hiring Laura Loomer I think he might not even win the primary
― frogbs, Friday, 7 April 2023 17:42 (one year ago) link
I am tempted to call Laura Loomer vs Marjorie Taylor Greene a scatfight, which probably means it’s time to log off for the day
― castanuts (DJP), Friday, 7 April 2023 17:44 (one year ago) link
Laura Poomer
― Trout Fishing in America (Neanderthal), Friday, 7 April 2023 17:44 (one year ago) link
Scatfight is a great pun.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 7 April 2023 18:12 (one year ago) link
🐦[New w @maggieNYT🕸: Former President Donald J. Trump has told aides to hire Laura Loomer, a far-right and anti-Muslim activist, for a campaign role, according to four people familiar with the plans. https://t.co/IsCZFZgTcY🕸— Jonathan Swan (@jonathanvswan) April 7, 2023🕸]🐦IT LOOMS.
― "The pudding incident?" (Boring, Maryland), Friday, 7 April 2023 18:14 (one year ago) link
She loves the alleged FBI
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Friday, 7 April 2023 18:29 (one year ago) link
oh, ha ha, there was more
“Alleged FBI informant and weirdo Nick Fuentes” pic.twitter.com/1Xv3FQ9uhm— No Lie with Brian Tyler Cohen (@NoLieWithBTC) April 7, 2023
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Friday, 7 April 2023 18:31 (one year ago) link
BREAKING: Gov. Ron DeSantis says largest Buc-ee's will soon be constructed in Florida"We [will] have an opening of the third Buc-ee's in the state of Florida [...] It's gonna be 80,000 square-foot store. It's gonna have 120 fuel pumps and more than 720 parking spaces." pic.twitter.com/1263A8iomE— Florida’s Voice (@FLVoiceNews) April 7, 2023
― lag∞n, Friday, 7 April 2023 18:54 (one year ago) link
Can-do attitude! Bringing home the Buc-ee's
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 7 April 2023 19:04 (one year ago) link
*infighting intensifies*
And they’re off … pic.twitter.com/eEwIMzb8g7— Ron Filipkowski 🇺🇦 (@RonFilipkowski) April 7, 2023
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 7 April 2023 19:08 (one year ago) link
But wait, there’s more … pic.twitter.com/C1LyXnsdHw— Ron Filipkowski 🇺🇦 (@RonFilipkowski) April 7, 2023
what a fn freakshow
― lag∞n, Friday, 7 April 2023 19:11 (one year ago) link
popcorn.gif
― Perverted By Linguiça (sleeve), Friday, 7 April 2023 19:12 (one year ago) link
I thought Milo was her paid intern? not a 'consultant'
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 7 April 2023 19:16 (one year ago) link
Laura Loomer, Marge aghast/Milo is a pederast/Ali A worked for YE/What else do I have to say?
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Friday, 7 April 2023 19:17 (one year ago) link
I really am honestly wondering what might come of all this, given Ali's exposure on J6 stuff -- he's already testified to the grand jury, and rumor was that he made claims that are not belied by evidence -- and MTG's own murky role. Anybody ends up feels betrayed one way or another may decide to do something interesting about it.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 7 April 2023 19:18 (one year ago) link
there will be blood
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 7 April 2023 19:20 (one year ago) link
Milo was her muse.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 7 April 2023 19:59 (one year ago) link
I’m grateful I am not terminally online enough to understand that beef.
― "The pudding incident?" (Boring, Maryland), Friday, 7 April 2023 20:23 (one year ago) link
Bucee's is a meme in Texas but I absolutely DNGI - it's a gas station, an XXXXL QuikTrip.
― papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 7 April 2023 20:28 (one year ago) link
My 12 year old and his friends have made kind of a meme about it--I think it's the name + the logo.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 7 April 2023 20:29 (one year ago) link
Aw
NEW: After our reporting, a high-ranking Trump official says Loomer is not getting hired. @jonathanvswan me https://t.co/x8Fl2rVLI0— Maggie Haberman (@maggieNYT) April 7, 2023
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 7 April 2023 22:01 (one year ago) link
Of course he'll hire her tomorrow anyway
and then not pay her invoices
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 7 April 2023 22:03 (one year ago) link
she'll sign an NDA, work for three months, and then shop around a tell-all
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 7 April 2023 22:04 (one year ago) link
And if he doesn't he'll just have more grist for his endless "dying NYT gets everything wrong" rants. xp
― Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Friday, 7 April 2023 22:04 (one year ago) link
Was just in New York where I met up with an old friend who it turns out currently has a job in the AG office. He's working on a separate Trump thing (related to the tax returns) and told me absolutely everybody was blindsided (but not in a bad way) by the apparently totally secret indictment, which in turn has inspired them to further drill down on their own stuff. Makes me wonder how many other investigations are out there but totally locked down, away from public view or knowledge.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 7 April 2023 22:08 (one year ago) link
and building/feeding on each other
― Perverted By Linguiça (sleeve), Friday, 7 April 2023 22:12 (one year ago) link
I’m fine with this jerk being on trial or in jail for the rest of his life, so go for it, lawyers!
― The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 7 April 2023 22:22 (one year ago) link
lmao @ the Buc-ee's thing, finally DeSantis is tapping into Real Florida
― c u (crüt), Friday, 7 April 2023 22:31 (one year ago) link
Oh for the days when it was all dirt roads and orange groves
― Trout Fishing in America (Neanderthal), Friday, 7 April 2023 22:33 (one year ago) link
'what started a little fruit stand and filling station..'
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 7 April 2023 22:38 (one year ago) link
Makes me wonder how many other investigations are out there but totally locked down, away from public view or knowledge.
I mean, give the federal grand juries in particular some credit, both the J6 and documents juries are apparently pretty well locked down. And only the Georgia foreperson said anything, and that was after they were all done.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 7 April 2023 23:52 (one year ago) link
For sure. Like, I know it was a running joke here, but I totally forgot about his tax returns.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 8 April 2023 00:35 (one year ago) link
going back several days...
I‘ve settled on the opinion that that election was close but not nearly as close as cable news wanted us to think it was
― castanuts (DJP), Wednesday, April 5, 2023
The electoral college outcome didn't reflect it but it was pretty damn close, closer even than the 2016 election. Out of the 100s of millions of votes cast (10 million more for Trump than even in 2016!) it was decided by a few thousand votes in Wisconsin, Georgia and Arizona
― Dan S, Saturday, 8 April 2023 01:04 (one year ago) link
I think you have it backward. 2016 was closer than 2020.
― This machine bores fascism (PBKR), Saturday, 8 April 2023 01:25 (one year ago) link
2020 was closer in the sense that Trump would have only needed to flip around 40,000 votes in 3 states to win. Hilary would have needed to flip around 70,000 votes in Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, and Michigan.
― symsymsym, Saturday, 8 April 2023 01:48 (one year ago) link
yes, it was closer. regardless of the fact that Biden got millions more votes than Trump, those few thousand votes in three swing states were what mattered
― Dan S, Saturday, 8 April 2023 02:07 (one year ago) link
it's a really great system
― symsymsym, Saturday, 8 April 2023 02:12 (one year ago) link
its weird how for years theres been a realistic movement to do away with the electoral college thats already part way to making it happen and you never hear a national dem mention it despite losing the presidency twice recently when winning the national vote, almost like they dont care about winning
― lag∞n, Saturday, 8 April 2023 02:14 (one year ago) link
its exactly the kind of issue they freak out about repealing because they think going against some weird shit everyone learned in 5th grade would turn everyone off
― frogbs, Saturday, 8 April 2023 02:18 (one year ago) link
bunch of civics class ass professional losers
― lag∞n, Saturday, 8 April 2023 02:19 (one year ago) link
Imagine the alternate reality where Bush won the popular vote and lost the EC:
https://www.nydailynews.com/archives/news/bush-set-fight-electoral-college-loss-article-1.881690
― symsymsym, Saturday, 8 April 2023 02:21 (one year ago) link
Clarence Thomas deserves a full Senate investigation and possible impeachment, but Congress likely doesn't have the appetite for that.As one Democratic House member tells me via text, "Public trust in SC is already bad. A big circus would destroy it completely."— Max Burns (@themaxburns) April 6, 2023
― lag∞n, Saturday, 8 April 2023 02:43 (one year ago) link
Tell me again exactly how this SCOTUS has earned the public's trust?
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Saturday, 8 April 2023 02:46 (one year ago) link
whatever happened to Omarosa?
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Saturday, 8 April 2023 04:26 (one year ago) link
(that was supposed to be in reply to : "she'll sign an NDA, work for three months, and then shop around a tell-all")
Oh no destroying public trust in the SC
― Trout Fishing in America (Neanderthal), Saturday, 8 April 2023 13:35 (one year ago) link
― papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, April 7, 2023 3:28 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, April 7, 2023 3:29 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink
sorry to derail the donald trump sucks thread, but i just want 2 add that bucee's is one of the worst-designed places ive ever been to, yes there are dozens of toilets but there are still lines out the door because every yutz who lives along I35 wants to take in the experience of mass pissing apparently, the food is overrated garbage, there is virtually no traffic regulation regime, just every car for itself. its like the founders of this business said "what if the small town gas station was also the source of one of the most intense feelings of anxiety, drivers these days are too calm"
― slai gorgeous-alexander (m bison), Saturday, 8 April 2023 17:35 (one year ago) link
I'm comfy with my Wawas
― Trout Fishing in America (Neanderthal), Saturday, 8 April 2023 17:47 (one year ago) link
There are no chain convenience stores near me — at least, none that I've seen. There's a gas station with a convenience store attached about a block away — the only store within walking distance — which my wife and I have begun referring to as "the bodega."
― but also fuck you (unperson), Saturday, 8 April 2023 18:45 (one year ago) link
sorry to derail the donald trump sucks thread
it's ok really it's just fine
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Saturday, 8 April 2023 18:52 (one year ago) link
I lived in the Austin area for three years and somehow never entered a Bucees
― The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Saturday, 8 April 2023 19:17 (one year ago) link
Where they there in the early 90s? Have no recollection.
― Beatles in My Passway (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 8 April 2023 19:18 (one year ago) link
― a hallan shaker loon (dowd), Saturday, 8 April 2023 20:51 (one year ago) link
Buc-ee's is much newer than that. I've had fairly positive experiences there, spacious clean bathrooms and no lines, but it's been several years since I've been to one, so I'm sure it's gone downhill. Might also depend on the specific location. I also know for a fact that the unusual candy selection, which was a big draw for me, has been greatly reduced in recent years.
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Saturday, 8 April 2023 23:38 (one year ago) link
I only know about bucees because of a tweet the other week from someone in the UK aghast that the salary for a manager at a car wash was 3x the average professional salary for someone in the UK (it was like 105k/yr) and lots of people had to tell him this wasn't just some little gas station carwash, and also yes UK salaries fucking suck
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Sunday, 9 April 2023 00:53 (one year ago) link
What kind of “professional” salary?
― treeship., Sunday, 9 April 2023 01:16 (one year ago) link
https://www.reddit.com/r/Buceestx/comments/r3srr9/shocking_how_bucees_employees_are_treated/
What working at Buc-ee's is like. People who should know better here in Texas love those shitholes. I'll never set foot in one again.
― the absence of bikes (f. hazel), Sunday, 9 April 2023 01:35 (one year ago) link
troubling
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FtS4j10WIAAyhfC?format=png&name=small
― lag∞n, Sunday, 9 April 2023 19:15 (one year ago) link
He's nuking his golden toilet at this very moment
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Sunday, 9 April 2023 19:19 (one year ago) link
I just looked at his Truth Social for the first time ever. Dude’s really coming unglued.
― Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Sunday, 9 April 2023 19:33 (one year ago) link
He is risen
― fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Sunday, 9 April 2023 19:40 (one year ago) link
lol @ Nuke avatar
― least said, sergio mendes (sic), Sunday, 9 April 2023 19:53 (one year ago) link
guys are misconstruing, he's into heroin now, WWIII is the product he enjoys
― Trout Fishing in America (Neanderthal), Sunday, 9 April 2023 20:12 (one year ago) link
A new ABC/Ipsos poll pegs Trump's favorable rating at just 25%.This has been a bad poll for Trump, but I'm not sure we've seen a number that low in any poll since early in/before the 2016 campaign. pic.twitter.com/lSKbd4wxgv— Aaron Blake (@AaronBlake) April 10, 2023
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 11 April 2023 13:12 (one year ago) link
nah I'm pretty sure getting arrested is gonna make him stronger
― frogbs, Tuesday, 11 April 2023 13:16 (one year ago) link
lol, stroke out big man
― "The pudding incident?" (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 11 April 2023 13:19 (one year ago) link
Ha, watch him get reelected while indicted in multiple courts, on dozens of charges, with a minority of the votes, *and* a minuscule approval rating. USA! USA!
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 11 April 2023 13:40 (one year ago) link
I’m pretty sure the President can’t pardon themselves but I’m also pretty sure Trump would 100% try to
― castanuts (DJP), Tuesday, 11 April 2023 14:09 (one year ago) link
surprised he didnt try on his way out
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 11 April 2023 14:11 (one year ago) link
There was a serious question about that! Willing to bet his narcissism got in the way.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 11 April 2023 14:45 (one year ago) link
yeah prob just thought he was above the law at that point because it had been true his whole life
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 11 April 2023 14:49 (one year ago) link
still might be true who knows but its getting pretty uncomfortable
If Trump could pardon himself he would never leave the house.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 11 April 2023 14:54 (one year ago) link
Meantime...
Spotted going through security at the DC federal courthouse: Stephen Miller. Miller was part of a recent order rebuffing Trump's challenge to Jan. 6 grand jury testimony from former senior aides on executive privilege grounds https://t.co/pMQF9u8nIQ— Zoe Tillman (@ZoeTillman) April 11, 2023
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 11 April 2023 16:36 (one year ago) link
Trump's final Hail Mary to prevent testimony from others on his end is the appeal about Pence's testimony on an executive privilege basis; Pence and his team have said they got what they wanted in the earlier ruling from the legislative ending so that's all that's left. Given all previous appeals have failed -- which is why Miller's there today -- I'm guessing that's about that. (Of course, Miller et al can just take the Fifth, but that's the point -- it's their core and deserved right on the one hand, but they will have formally answered in a court context on the other as opposed to avoiding testimony entirely.)
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 11 April 2023 16:40 (one year ago) link
biggest q: why _didnt_ trump pardon himself? the rules of if ur not cheatin u aint tryin demand it. what a cuck.
― Laurie Anderson’s Singing Bowl Migraine Orchestra (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 11 April 2023 19:08 (one year ago) link
I just read a nickname for Trump that I had not encountered before:
The Count of Mostly Crisco
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 11 April 2023 23:42 (one year ago) link
Loved his Easter message - really captured the spirit of the holiday, rebirth & renewal:
Trump with a devout, uplifting and inspiring Easter message for the faithful. pic.twitter.com/lrLDGvHeVH— Ron Filipkowski 🇺🇦 (@RonFilipkowski) April 9, 2023
― Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 11 April 2023 23:46 (one year ago) link
Speaking of Trump's christian faith, have you heard the one about the two Corinthians?
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 11 April 2023 23:49 (one year ago) link
Trump airs disgusting ad featuring Ron DeSantis eating pudding with his fingers. pic.twitter.com/QWAPI21AjU— Mike Sington (@MikeSington) April 14, 2023
― lag∞n, Friday, 14 April 2023 18:46 (one year ago) link
desantis needs to hit back with his own disgusting but true ad about trump. this year needs to get disgusting
― it's a new day in the international landscape (z_tbd), Friday, 14 April 2023 18:50 (one year ago) link
lets do this
― lag∞n, Friday, 14 April 2023 18:50 (one year ago) link
I curse this world in which a Trump ad brings me such glee. God damn it all to hell.
― Cow_Art, Friday, 14 April 2023 18:56 (one year ago) link
"Trump shits his pants regularly - OAN News"
― Will.I.Am's fetid urine (Neanderthal), Friday, 14 April 2023 18:58 (one year ago) link
I bet that ad made Trump hungry.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 14 April 2023 18:58 (one year ago) link
PAC money still shields the actual candidate when the mud-flinging gets too much to stomach. The whole "I'm Senator Goober McFleece and I approved this message" only shows up on the nicey-nice ads. Otherwise it's always "Senator Lousewort eats babies -- paid for by Citizens for Government Excellence".
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 14 April 2023 19:02 (one year ago) link
I love that DeSantis hasn't even announced yet, and it's already come to this
Let the circular firing squad begin!
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 14 April 2023 19:10 (one year ago) link
"Ron DeSantis claims he is 'not even running for President'. How can the public be expected to vote for a guy who says he isn't running?"
― Will.I.Am's fetid urine (Neanderthal), Friday, 14 April 2023 19:11 (one year ago) link
also btw I know how unreliable polling is this early before a primary but DeSantis is getting thoroughly destroyed, like it doesn't seem like he has much chance.
he seems more likely to prop up another candidate or just fall behind Trump eventually, like Cruz did
― Will.I.Am's fetid urine (Neanderthal), Friday, 14 April 2023 19:13 (one year ago) link
(thoroughly destroyed by Trump that is)
and yet he's thoroughly destroying florida to look 'presidential'
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 14 April 2023 19:18 (one year ago) link
tell me about it :(
― Will.I.Am's fetid urine (Neanderthal), Friday, 14 April 2023 19:19 (one year ago) link
I think his whole strategy is to be the 2nd choice and hope Trump is forced out of the race
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Friday, 14 April 2023 19:21 (one year ago) link
he prob believed the hype for a while when the media was lining behind him but reality has to be setting in now, just gotta hope trumps in jail or dead
― lag∞n, Friday, 14 April 2023 19:28 (one year ago) link
to be fair I believe this was the point in the cycle where Rudy Guiliani had like a 10 point lead so who knows. the GOP wasn't a cult of personality the way it is now though. kinda sucks that Trump is running away with it because this whole thing has the potential to get very ugly in a way that is actually good for Democrats
― frogbs, Friday, 14 April 2023 19:37 (one year ago) link
like I think pudding fingers is probably an effective ad but it plays right into one of the GOP's biggest problems, which is that they're really fucking weird in ways that are clearly turning voters off
― frogbs, Friday, 14 April 2023 19:38 (one year ago) link
DeSantis is young enough to wait it out and run next time tho
Trump and Biden need to run because they don't have another cycle in them
― doja catharsis (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 14 April 2023 19:47 (one year ago) link
to be fair I believe this was the point in the cycle where Rudy Guiliani had like a 10 point lead so who knows. the GOP wasn't a cult of personality the way it is now though.
Rudy Giuliani had literally nothing going for him beyond "cult of personality" so I'm not sure I see the connection between your first and second sentences. (Also, the Republicans have been a cult of personality since Reagan. Bush I only got in because he had spent four years sitting at Saint Reagan's right hand.)
― but also fuck you (unperson), Friday, 14 April 2023 19:52 (one year ago) link
Meantime should be noted that Trump's various hail Marys to try and stop the E Jean Carroll trial from starting a week from Monday are pretty much nonstarters; there's a little bit of extra stuff that'll have to happen but doesn't seem like there will be any further change there. Like Fox, all the dodging and weaving is for naught.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 14 April 2023 19:53 (one year ago) link
he won by a landslide even during an election cycle where Republicans vastly underperformed. you could argue his star is never gonna be brighter than it is right now. if he's getting crushed by a dude with 15 active criminal investigations maybe it's just not gonna happen for him.
― frogbs, Friday, 14 April 2023 19:54 (one year ago) link
Did you live through the Reagan presidency?
― castanuts (DJP), Friday, 14 April 2023 19:55 (one year ago) link
well yeah it's been a "cult of personality" in comparison to virtually every other democracy on the planet but what we have with Trump now compares more to North Korea bullshit. I don't think the GOP had to worry about Reagan trying to destroy the entire political party if he didn't get the nomination. which you damn well know Trump would do if DeSantis won.
― frogbs, Friday, 14 April 2023 20:02 (one year ago) link
um he's kinda already destroyed the Republican party
― a (waterface), Friday, 14 April 2023 20:09 (one year ago) link
and maybe not when he was in office but Reagan is def. revered super highly --cult leader like Trump? Probably not but close
― a (waterface), Friday, 14 April 2023 20:10 (one year ago) link
fairly sure many in the GOP are starting to pivot to "he didn't go anywhere near far enough" w/ Reagan
― Will.I.Am's fetid urine (Neanderthal), Friday, 14 April 2023 20:18 (one year ago) link
Rudy had a cult of personality around him, but the GOP base didn't trust him on abortion, so they went with McCain. Trump was all over the place on abortion but the base didn't care.
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Friday, 14 April 2023 20:21 (one year ago) link
Did anyone draw Reagan with bulging muscles and sixpack abs back then, a la Garrison's Trump caricatures? Or hobnobbing with Jesus? Seems like that's a cult thing that didn't exist until recently.
― Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Friday, 14 April 2023 20:34 (one year ago) link
They did depict Reagan as the Marlboro Man, among other Western "icons."
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 14 April 2023 20:36 (one year ago) link
Reagan literally had films of himself dressed up as a cowboy, so it wasn't that hard
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Friday, 14 April 2023 20:51 (one year ago) link
Trump was all over the place on abortion but the base didn't care.
Trump's great advantage in 2016 over 2020/24 was that he didn't represent the insane social reactionary worldview that has become the GOP standard now - racism, xenophobia and crime obviously his calling cards but he wasn't a creepy off-putting fundamentalist (like Pence) or talking about litter boxes in classrooms. He still doesn't traffic in that stuff as much as DeSantis et al. but he can't escape the stink of it from the rest of the party.
― papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 14 April 2023 20:58 (one year ago) link
When it came to the bedrock politics of abortion Trump made it clearto the anti-abortion bloc in 2016 that he would fill any SCOTUS vacancies with the justices committed to the repeal of Roe. This was effectively communicated to those voters, and kept them firmly on board even through the Access Hollywood fiasco.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 14 April 2023 22:13 (one year ago) link
Even so, there were a lot of people in 2016 trying to convince themselves that Trump was more moderate than the typical republican candidate. No one is going to buy that now.
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Saturday, 15 April 2023 00:59 (one year ago) link
― Perverted By Linguiça (sleeve), Saturday, 15 April 2023 01:01 (one year ago) link
also, uh
Trump Says He’ll Launch Probe Into Whether Trans ‘Ideology’ Leads to Mass Shootings
― Perverted By Linguiça (sleeve), Saturday, 15 April 2023 01:03 (one year ago) link
Trumps Promises Something Designed to Grab Headlines and Reassure Bigots But is Probably Lying
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Saturday, 15 April 2023 01:07 (one year ago) link
Muslim Ban 2024
― Will.I.Am's fetid urine (Neanderthal), Saturday, 15 April 2023 01:15 (one year ago) link
What a despicable male antihero
― treeship., Saturday, 15 April 2023 01:51 (one year ago) link
― Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson)
Yes.
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 15 April 2023 01:57 (one year ago) link
https://i0.wp.com/www.bulletproofaction.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Ronbo.jpg
― but also fuck you (unperson), Saturday, 15 April 2023 03:09 (one year ago) link
yup
― Perverted By Linguiça (sleeve), Saturday, 15 April 2023 03:13 (one year ago) link
DeSatanis could really turn the whole ‘sticking his fingers where they don’t belong’. God these people are so fuckin gross.
― The Artist formerly known as Earlnash, Saturday, 15 April 2023 07:46 (one year ago) link
My guess is he read all this very haltingly
https://www.politico.com/news/2023/04/15/trump-turns-from-past-to-future-at-rnc-donor-retreat-00092212
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 16 April 2023 03:47 (one year ago) link
Trump traded the election grievance rhetoric that has defined his last two years in the public eye for a different type of message — his vision for the future
this is nothing new for him. he occasionally makes an empty gesture in the direction of his 'vision for the future'. they're usually hilariously simplistic and bad - like building ten new government cities or Space Force. he'll dutifully trot them out for a public viewing but you can tell his heart isn't in it.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Sunday, 16 April 2023 15:54 (one year ago) link
I was promised flying cars.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 16 April 2023 16:00 (one year ago) link
its sad the real estate developer cant even get into the idea of making his own new cities, id love to see what he comes up with, i want him to get really into it talk about it all the time
― lag∞n, Sunday, 16 April 2023 16:02 (one year ago) link
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Top Republican donor Thomas Peterffy is halting plans to help finance the US presidential bid of Florida governor Ron DeSantis due to his extreme positions on social issues.
“I have put myself on hold,” the billionaire told the Financial Times.
“Because of his stance on abortion and book banning . . . myself, and a bunch of friends, are holding our powder dry.”
Though DeSantis has not formally announced a run, he has for months been considered former president Donald Trump’s main rival for the Republican nomination for president in 2024.
But in recent weeks, the Florida governor’s popularity among likely voters has wobbled as he has tried to appeal to Trump’s far-right voter base while also presenting himself as an opponent with broader appeal.
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 16 April 2023 16:07 (one year ago) link
If Trump is the nominee — which looks more and more likely — I really wonder who he'll end with as VP. Somebody like Kari Lake, I guess? Doesn't seem like any halfway sane or normal person would do it. Like, Nikki Haley would be kind of a textbook pick under normal circumstances, but hard to imagine her wanting it.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Sunday, 16 April 2023 16:12 (one year ago) link
I’m not joking when I say that either Jared or Ivanka have a good shot at being his VP.
― "The pudding incident?" (Boring, Maryland), Sunday, 16 April 2023 16:33 (one year ago) link
i'm not sure why haley wouldn't want it - she proudly served under trump and still, to my knowledge, is unwilling to name a single thing about trump that she doesn't support, or anything she would do differently. i don't think he'd name her vp, though, because she dared to run against him this year. very unloyal.
kari lake seems possible, as does greene
― it's a new day in the international landscape (z_tbd), Sunday, 16 April 2023 16:36 (one year ago) link
if his draining the swamp includes abolishing the Senate, then he may not need a VP at all
― StanM, Sunday, 16 April 2023 16:38 (one year ago) link
I may be overestimating Haley's intelligence, but being his vice president is clearly a terrible, awful job. He urged a mob to kill his last one iirc.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Sunday, 16 April 2023 16:45 (one year ago) link
i guess i'm assuming he's going full on troll for his vp pick. pence is a horrible person, but he represented a compromise to appease delusional people like chuck todd who saw some sort of pivot toward conventional behavior as imminent and necessary for a successful gop candidate. trump put up with pence but also had white nationalists try to murder him. he's going to be embroiled in lawsuits for the duration of this campaign and i'm sure they'll magically peak in summer 2024, just at the point where people start saying that "the people need to decide" via voting, so it's tough to imagine him picking anyone other than the loudest loyal liar
― it's a new day in the international landscape (z_tbd), Sunday, 16 April 2023 16:47 (one year ago) link
I guess someone like Kristi Noem might do it. She's about as close to a conventional pick as I can imagine being willing to take it on.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Sunday, 16 April 2023 16:54 (one year ago) link
haha, just remembering her bragging to the nra the other day about how her 2-year-old granddaughter already owns a shotgun and a rifle. and also a pony. by today's standards it was barely newsworthy but holy shit are they fucked up
― it's a new day in the international landscape (z_tbd), Sunday, 16 April 2023 16:56 (one year ago) link
if he picks someone like Kari Lake or MTG it'll be a huge gift to the Dems. the VP picks of people like Trump, Biden, and McCain did have some weight to them because the candidates themselves were so old. I mean you could argue picking Sarah Palin singlehandedly tanked McCain in '08. good luck courting the votes of moderates when your extremely unhealthy 77-year old candidate's backup is the Jewish space laser "gazpacho police" lady. I kinda think Trump at least kinda knows that these people are crazy losers who won't do much to help him but who knows. Trump is a crazy loser himself these days. and honestly what kind of actual up-and-coming moderate is gonna want that job?
― frogbs, Sunday, 16 April 2023 17:36 (one year ago) link
Lol at “I have put myself on hold”
― The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Sunday, 16 April 2023 17:55 (one year ago) link
look I don't wanna get overly confident here but how the hell is Trump gonna do any better in 2024 than he did in 2020? he's gotten even weirder and angrier since and now is facing a lot of actual legal trouble. paying off a porn star may not hurt him much but trying to defraud the election in Georgia, inciting an insurrection, and stealing top secret documents might. Republicans have been geting trounced in nearly every single election since 2016. the abortion issue is killing them right now. they won back the House and haven't written a single bill since. their entire platform is weird unpopular shit like showing the world Hunter Biden's dick and facilitating the genocide of trans people. he won't have the incumbent advantage either which history tells us is a big deal (hell, even Dubya won re-election). I suppose I can see a strange confluence of events pushing him just over the finish line by like 500 votes in all the right states but idk, if I was a GOP politician right now I'd be thinking 2024 was just hopeless
― frogbs, Sunday, 16 April 2023 18:20 (one year ago) link
While incumbents do have an advantage, Trump could benefit from the independents who like voting for the rebel candidate from the party not in power. The same voters who say they vote for Republican Senators but Democratic Presidents because they "don't want one party to have too much power".
That and Biden's currently low favorability likely gives him a legit shot.
But, the election cycle gives Trump ample opportunity to shoot himself in the foot so
― Will.I.Am's fetid urine (Neanderthal), Sunday, 16 April 2023 18:34 (one year ago) link
Pay operatives to approach Trump under the guide of being a conservative blogger and con him into saying really terrible shit on tape that he stopped himself from saying last time
― Will.I.Am's fetid urine (Neanderthal), Sunday, 16 April 2023 18:36 (one year ago) link
could be a bad recession next cycle biden could fall down the stairs or whatever
― lag∞n, Sunday, 16 April 2023 18:37 (one year ago) link
We're definitely not in the "Trump has no shot" wilderness anymore.
― Will.I.Am's fetid urine (Neanderthal), Sunday, 16 April 2023 18:38 (one year ago) link
The same voters who say they vote for Republican Senators but Democratic Presidents because they "don't want one party to have too much power".
Feel like the Republican Party is turning those people off too, considering they’re actively trying to make it illegal to vote for Democrats
― frogbs, Sunday, 16 April 2023 18:55 (one year ago) link
Feel like Tim Scott talking about running is a pure VP audition.
― papal hotwife (milo z), Sunday, 16 April 2023 19:06 (one year ago) link
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Uh oh Alfred you're gonna get sued.
― Daniel_Rf, Sunday, 16 April 2023 19:16 (one year ago) link
financial times more like financial crimes
― slai gorgeous-alexander (m bison), Sunday, 16 April 2023 19:27 (one year ago) link
DeSantis the obvious VP pick?
― symsymsym, Sunday, 16 April 2023 19:27 (one year ago) link
Usually you’d think so and maybe it’ll happen, but a.) two candidates from the same state would really put the spotlight on Florida and a lot of that won’t play well nationally, and b.) maybe I’m misreading DeSantis but it’s just hard to imagine him willing to play second fiddle to a guy who’s been abusive to him. Plus of course the prospect of losing, which could make it harder for him to run next time around.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Sunday, 16 April 2023 19:39 (one year ago) link
DeSantis is a groveling worm, of course he’d accept it
Highly doubt Trump would pick him though
― frogbs, Sunday, 16 April 2023 19:44 (one year ago) link
Also it’s unconstitutional to have a pres and VP from the same state, but really who cares about the “Constitution” or “laws”, not these guys. Dick Cheney had to pretend he lived in Wyoming for that reason.
― "The pudding incident?" (Boring, Maryland), Sunday, 16 April 2023 19:45 (one year ago) link
judging from the pence hell pick the most generic possible person he likes the spotlight for himself
― lag∞n, Sunday, 16 April 2023 19:48 (one year ago) link
That was Steve Brannons pick right?
― frogbs, Sunday, 16 April 2023 19:59 (one year ago) link
Also it’s unconstitutional to have a pres and VP from the same state
Oh right, there is that too. DeSantis could move to rust-belt Pennsylvania I guess, since he's already from there in his mind. But anyway, I can't imagine his ego being willing to be anyone's VP. He's already governor of one of the largest states, I don't see him trading down in power.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Sunday, 16 April 2023 20:06 (one year ago) link
It's not unconstitutional to have a pres and VP from the same state, the rule is that state can't give their electoral votes to both of them. So Florida's electoral votes couldn't go to DeSantis as VP (and you would risk ending up with like Trump as Pres and Kamala Harris as VP if it was a close election)
― Piven After Midnight (The Yellow Kid), Sunday, 16 April 2023 20:09 (one year ago) link
I think that's an outcome nobody would have any problem with
― symsymsym, Sunday, 16 April 2023 20:16 (one year ago) link
well um yeah actually I would have a big problem with Trump being president again
― Perverted By Linguiça (sleeve), Sunday, 16 April 2023 20:18 (one year ago) link
Trump can change his residence to Kansas because he'll be in Leavenworth amirite
― papal hotwife (milo z), Sunday, 16 April 2023 20:36 (one year ago) link
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Sunday, 16 April 2023 21:45 (one year ago) link
Trump is going to lose again to Joe Fucking Biden.
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 16 April 2023 21:49 (one year ago) link
Biden has at least been better than a caretaker filling that role. For a man of his advanced age I think he's been remarkably open to taking social policy in new directions.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Sunday, 16 April 2023 22:04 (one year ago) link
I think DeSantis has his eye on 2028, no way is he gonna get the Trump taint, which I think will be stronger in 4 yrs even than now, on him for VP.
― nickn, Sunday, 16 April 2023 23:51 (one year ago) link
Biden has started drilling in the arctic but sure let’s complement the man xp
― Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Monday, 17 April 2023 00:02 (one year ago) link
Trump taint
― "The pudding incident?" (Boring, Maryland), Monday, 17 April 2023 00:28 (one year ago) link
― nickn, Monday, 17 April 2023 00:29 (one year ago) link
― Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved),
Well, yeah. I expected shit like this. It's Joseph Robinette Biden. I didn't expect him to sign some of the bills presented to him.
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 17 April 2023 00:29 (one year ago) link
new directions
Many people's favorite kind.
― doja catharsis (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 17 April 2023 00:30 (one year ago) link
Ah, yes, that was an embarrassingly gushing compliment to be sure. Oh, and you seem remarkably able to complete grammatical sentences, if we overlook your spelling.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Monday, 17 April 2023 03:04 (one year ago) link
fuck off Aimless
― Perverted By Linguiça (sleeve), Monday, 17 April 2023 03:06 (one year ago) link
it's just incredible to me what an absolutely worthless piece of shit you are
― Perverted By Linguiça (sleeve), Monday, 17 April 2023 03:07 (one year ago) link
look I don't wanna get overly confident here but how the hell is Trump gonna do any better in 2024 than he did in 2020?
haven't a lot of local election boards made it easier to stick their thumb in the pie? isn't that actually the plan?
― J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Monday, 17 April 2023 03:07 (one year ago) link
xp - hey, it was a compliment
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Monday, 17 April 2023 03:11 (one year ago) link
yea but there was a lot of fear of that in 2022 too and the only one who made noise about it was Kari Lake who was roundly ignored
― frogbs, Monday, 17 April 2023 03:12 (one year ago) link
sure, but I'm willing to clutch a pearl or two about how those election boards might behave when their figurehead is the one up for election
― J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Monday, 17 April 2023 03:15 (one year ago) link
DeSantis openly speculating about what the state could build next to Walt Disney World:“Someone even said, maybe you need another state prison…” pic.twitter.com/dlZ2r2OAqZ— Scott Gustin (@ScottGustin) April 17, 2023
― lag∞n, Monday, 17 April 2023 18:27 (one year ago) link
dude is flailing
― a (waterface), Monday, 17 April 2023 18:39 (one year ago) link
The all-Goofy wet works team is on standby.
― papal hotwife (milo z), Monday, 17 April 2023 18:46 (one year ago) link
presidential campaign not going well? why not escalate your beef with the famously vindictive media conglomerate
― lag∞n, Monday, 17 April 2023 18:47 (one year ago) link
i get that early polling has him beating biden in some key places but there's just no way. 6 week abortion band plus shitting on the mouse
― a (waterface), Monday, 17 April 2023 18:58 (one year ago) link
they could build an even bigger Buc-ee's
― c u (crüt), Monday, 17 April 2023 19:07 (one year ago) link
Guys, he needs the new state prisons to house the drag queens, bar managers, professors, and pregnant women
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 17 April 2023 19:15 (one year ago) link
the Six Week Abortion Band is the house band of the RNC
― Will.I.Am's fetid urine (Neanderthal), Monday, 17 April 2023 19:15 (one year ago) link
*thinking of ways people will like me enough to vote for me for president* i'm going to shut down disney world— Ben Rosen (@ben_rosen) April 17, 2023
― lag∞n, Monday, 17 April 2023 19:46 (one year ago) link
what's funny is like....there's a decent amount of animosity towards Disney for how it treats its employees, particularly during the pandemic, but it's mostly been forgotten because these same people hate DeSantis more.
― Will.I.Am's fetid urine (Neanderthal), Monday, 17 April 2023 19:48 (one year ago) link
yeah were he being anti corporate in some way that might be good but its obvs just some asshole fight
― lag∞n, Monday, 17 April 2023 19:52 (one year ago) link
DeSantis going all in on the Disney to prison pipeline.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 17 April 2023 19:53 (one year ago) link
how bad do you have to fuck up to make Disney look like the good guys
― frogbs, Monday, 17 April 2023 19:56 (one year ago) link
Heh. We're in the minority. In Florida, Disney's always been one of the good guys.
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 17 April 2023 20:14 (one year ago) link
I’ve never been more sure of anything in my life his favorite band was Live https://t.co/fgrZNGITxm— eve6 (@Eve6) April 17, 2023
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 17 April 2023 20:35 (one year ago) link
That's a DC Talk fan right there
― papal hotwife (milo z), Monday, 17 April 2023 20:36 (one year ago) link
jesus fuck I had that same haircut
― Cthulhu Diamond Phillips (Neanderthal), Monday, 17 April 2023 20:37 (one year ago) link
I had a crush on a boy with that same haircut and now he's governor of Florida
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 17 April 2023 20:39 (one year ago) link
-Dead Milkmen
― Cthulhu Diamond Phillips (Neanderthal), Monday, 17 April 2023 20:39 (one year ago) link
RONALD Vs. DONALD
― Andy the Grasshopper, Monday, 17 April 2023 20:41 (one year ago) link
90% of my junior high rocked the chili bowl
― papal hotwife (milo z), Monday, 17 April 2023 20:43 (one year ago) link
I initially mixed up DC Talk with DC Follies, the Sid & Martial Krofft political puppet show that I have not thought about since I was a kid and I watched it religiously. That combined with Bloom County is how you get an 11 year old making Jimmy Hoffa jokes that none of his peers understand.
Sorry, I digress. Yes, total DC Talk fan.
― Cow_Art, Monday, 17 April 2023 20:53 (one year ago) link
I'd actually say he looks more like the kid who used to like DC Talk but now has to hide his hip-hop cassettes in the DC Talk sleeves so his parents don't find out.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 17 April 2023 20:59 (one year ago) link
DC Talk-to-Pantera pipeline was also running strong for the chili bowl & polo crowd
― papal hotwife (milo z), Monday, 17 April 2023 21:06 (one year ago) link
Gov is a Verb
― Cthulhu Diamond Phillips (Neanderthal), Monday, 17 April 2023 21:08 (one year ago) link
Prison next to Disney = EpCon
― doja catharsis (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 17 April 2023 21:58 (one year ago) link
It's a small cell after all
― doja catharsis (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 17 April 2023 21:59 (one year ago) link
Last week, @RonDeSantisFL’s political operation reached out to members of Florida’s congressional delegation to ask that they not yet endorse @RealDonaldTrump, per report by @MDixon55. Since then two additional Florida U.S. Reps. have endorsed Trump. https://t.co/xPJssWMH0o— Peter Schorsch (@PeterSchorschFL) April 18, 2023
― fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Tuesday, 18 April 2023 18:46 (one year ago) link
hes really got the touch baby (of being indistinguishable from a verhoeven character)
Trump says he will outlaw homelessness and arrest everyone who refuses to comply. He will then give them the option to get out of jail to be relocated to new tent cities elsewhere where he will take care of their needs. pic.twitter.com/P5z5ckG8b6— Ron Filipkowski 🇺🇦 (@RonFilipkowski) April 18, 2023
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 19 April 2023 14:29 (one year ago) link
OK so socialism.
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 19 April 2023 14:31 (one year ago) link
The best tents, really. Gold tents.
― when you wish upon a tsar (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 19 April 2023 14:49 (one year ago) link
like how he note that the tents will be located on cheap land, thats real estate americas greatest resource
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 19 April 2023 14:54 (one year ago) link
We will 'concentrate' them in these 'camps' and bring in doctors to identify their problems
― Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 19 April 2023 16:47 (one year ago) link
isn't there some cheap land right next to Disney World, just heard about that somewhere
― Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 19 April 2023 16:51 (one year ago) link
once again i have to remind you that trumps plan for homelessness is straight out of an episode of star trek: deep space nine where the crew goes back in time to the year 2024 https://t.co/4c9MEYivel pic.twitter.com/r4j3Lrv5Ct— COSMIC SLOP 🖖🏾 (@afrocosmist) April 19, 2023
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Wednesday, 19 April 2023 23:32 (one year ago) link
he will take care of their needs
― brimstead, Thursday, 20 April 2023 00:10 (one year ago) link
the presumptive GOP 2024 nominee is literally suggesting concentration camps for people convicted of no crime
I'm sure this will seem quite reasonable to a certain percentage of that party
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 20 April 2023 00:18 (one year ago) link
What could possibly go wrong?
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 20 April 2023 00:18 (one year ago) link
Biden's campaign ads are writing themselves
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 20 April 2023 00:20 (one year ago) link
"What did they do to deserve this?"
The GOP has an answer to that.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 20 April 2023 00:21 (one year ago) link
here's Ron DeSantis in South Carolina saying "woke" 7 times in 20 seconds pic.twitter.com/pzVI58LR8T— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) April 19, 2023
― lag∞n, Thursday, 20 April 2023 13:41 (one year ago) link
and yet Florida apparently tested their emergency broadcast service on everyone's cell phones at 4:45 AM this morning....does he want people to be woke or not???
― frogbs, Thursday, 20 April 2023 13:44 (one year ago) link
about 25 of my friends posted angry about it on FB. i slept through it lmao
― Cthulhu Diamond Phillips (Neanderthal), Thursday, 20 April 2023 13:47 (one year ago) link
I never got one. I guess I die, and this time not because I'm queer.
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 20 April 2023 13:53 (one year ago) link
The next movie is so dumb, possibly dumber, it made me reassess whether it and its predecessor were dumb on purpose. Jury is still out, but there is little doubt that every dollar of dumbness is up there on the screen.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 20 April 2023 14:52 (one year ago) link
ha, my bad.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 20 April 2023 14:53 (one year ago) link
or maybe not?
Here's a lol at someone else's expense:
MyPillow founder and prominent election denier Mike Lindell made a bold offer ahead of a “cyber symposium” he held in August 2021 in South Dakota: He claimed he had data showing Chinese interference and said he would pay $5 million to anyone who could prove the material was not from the previous year’s U.S. election.He called the challenge “Prove Mike Wrong.”On Wednesday, a private arbitration panel ruled that someone did.The panel said Robert Zeidman, a computer forensics expert and 63-year-old Trump voter from Nevada, was entitled to the $5 million payout.Zeidman had examined Lindell’s data and concluded that it not only did not prove voter fraud, it had no connection to the 2020 election. He was the only expert who submitted a claim, arbitration records show.He turned to the arbitrators after Lindell Management, which created the contest, refused to pay him.
He called the challenge “Prove Mike Wrong.”
On Wednesday, a private arbitration panel ruled that someone did.
The panel said Robert Zeidman, a computer forensics expert and 63-year-old Trump voter from Nevada, was entitled to the $5 million payout.
Zeidman had examined Lindell’s data and concluded that it not only did not prove voter fraud, it had no connection to the 2020 election. He was the only expert who submitted a claim, arbitration records show.He turned to the arbitrators after Lindell Management, which created the contest, refused to pay him.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/2023/04/20/mike-lindell-prove-wrong-contest/
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 20 April 2023 15:08 (one year ago) link
shocked, I tell you!
― StanM, Thursday, 20 April 2023 15:10 (one year ago) link
Lindell said in a text to The Post: “They made a terribly wrong decision! This will be going to court!” His attorneys did not reply to a request seeking comment.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 20 April 2023 15:11 (one year ago) link
hahahhaha
― Cthulhu Diamond Phillips (Neanderthal), Thursday, 20 April 2023 15:16 (one year ago) link
Beautiful.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 20 April 2023 15:28 (one year ago) link
every time I see a picture of Lindell, I see Baltimore's Count Gore DeVol, late night TV monster movie host.
― Every post of mine is an expression of eternity (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 20 April 2023 15:31 (one year ago) link
There is all sorts of joy in that piece:
Lindell testified at arbitration that he did not share what he had described as his key data to support the foreign intrusion claim during the conference. He held off, he said, after a man seeking a selfie poked him in the side as the symposium was nearing an end — an act that Lindell called an assault and said he took as a signal the government might tamper with his central information if he made it public.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 20 April 2023 15:32 (one year ago) link
This may not be an original observation (NARRATOR: It isn't), but.
Surely there is some connection between the opposition to "wokeness" and the guy who sells pillows. You know, pillows, on which people are supposed to be... um, non-woke?
A good marketing exec would be lining up Nytol and Sominex and melatonin to the non-woke campaign. Get some pajama manufacturers in on the grift somehow.
Maybe repurpose some Lennon/Ono bed-in stills for the campaign?
Don't be woke! Sleep through election day!
― when you wish upon a tsar (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 20 April 2023 15:37 (one year ago) link
imagine thinking any of these nutballs are leaders you should follow
― dicbo=v2-ubswizzb&hrt (stevie), Thursday, 20 April 2023 15:38 (one year ago) link
During his deposition, Lindell said he was never concerned someone might actually win the challenge."No, because they have to show it wasn't from 2020 and it was," Lindell said, chuckling.
"No, because they have to show it wasn't from 2020 and it was," Lindell said, chuckling.
― fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Thursday, 20 April 2023 15:46 (one year ago) link
I remember Lindell claiming he only slept 2 hours a night, seems like a bad thing for a pillow salesman to admit
― frogbs, Thursday, 20 April 2023 15:48 (one year ago) link
Cocaine's a helluva et al
― fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Thursday, 20 April 2023 15:49 (one year ago) link
lol frogs
― Cthulhu Diamond Phillips (Neanderthal), Thursday, 20 April 2023 15:51 (one year ago) link
Allowing myself to indulge in a little wistful nostalgia this morning, I miss when grifters like Lindell were relegated to scamming people via ads in the back of comic books.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 20 April 2023 16:02 (one year ago) link
Apparently you can get the best of both worlds!
https://ctl.s6img.com/society6/img/fZBhAZj7TvSdOqkw-VVqHVdpAxw/w_700/shams/standard/synthetic/top/~artwork,fw_6105,fh_3500,fy_-1303,iw_6105,ih_6105/s6-original-art-uploads/society6/uploads/misc/58ed91a143db49cbad7ecddd401a95a7/~~/old-comic-book-ads-shams.jpg?attempt=0
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 20 April 2023 16:08 (one year ago) link
"want a pillow that will make your dick bigger? try MYPILLOW.
also do u want to run for office y/n"
― Cthulhu Diamond Phillips (Neanderthal), Thursday, 20 April 2023 16:12 (one year ago) link
Made love to MyPillow, but it didn't feel right
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEIUOq_HbqU
― when you wish upon a tsar (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 20 April 2023 16:17 (one year ago) link
― Every post of mine is an expression of eternity (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 20 April 2023 17:07 (one year ago) link
Thatcher (4 hours)
― ledge, Thursday, 20 April 2023 17:43 (one year ago) link
I've heard not getting sleep fucks with your memory which I think explains a lot about how these dudes just never seem to learn anything - iirc a lot of the books about Trump from people inside the admin said something about how Trump just didn't know shit about basic functions of government despite having been the president for multiple years
― frogbs, Thursday, 20 April 2023 17:53 (one year ago) link
I'd say that has less to do with lack of sleep and more with him being a fucking idiot.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 20 April 2023 17:56 (one year ago) link
Those organizations that are always advocating for us to get better sleep should absolutely use "don't be these guys, get 8 hours of sleep" as an ad campaign.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 20 April 2023 17:57 (one year ago) link
I mean you don't gotta be smart to make a pillow.
― Cthulhu Diamond Phillips (Neanderthal), Thursday, 20 April 2023 18:00 (one year ago) link
https://ksr-ugc.imgix.net/assets/015/387/858/1e4454416bc7f44c2b8979032439fc94_original.jpg?ixlib=rb-4.0.2&crop=faces&w=1552&h=873&fit=crop&v=1493789431&auto=format&frame=1&q=92&s=b5b6b246f02384776dd01add90c81e67
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 20 April 2023 18:02 (one year ago) link
Trump just didn't know shit about basic functions of government despite having been the president for multiple years
the wealthy don't have to know stuff. they 'have people for that'.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 20 April 2023 18:03 (one year ago) link
xp Lalo Salamanca only slept a couple hours a night. He got his best ideas when it was quiet out.
― henry s, Thursday, 20 April 2023 23:14 (one year ago) link
Our former university president would answer emails himself at 4 a.m. and we're convinced it's this addled state of mind that produced so many poor decision.
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 20 April 2023 23:16 (one year ago) link
A Toledo Salamanca.A what?A sword, Frank. A very rare sword.Is it worth much?Only about a million bucks.
― mookieproof, Thursday, 20 April 2023 23:19 (one year ago) link
Breached date: what to do with it first?https://www.cnn.com/2023/04/21/politics/trump-georgia-senate-breached-voting-data/index.html
― dow, Friday, 21 April 2023 20:26 (eleven months ago) link
Christ on a cracker! This is deeply criminal behavior on the part of everyone connected to it. I hope the GA grand jury starts handing down true bills right and left asap.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 21 April 2023 21:08 (eleven months ago) link
Lalo Salamanca only slept a couple hours a night. He got his best ideas when it was quiet out.
Vladimir Nabokov, as well.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 21 April 2023 21:11 (eleven months ago) link
Yeah but he's just a fictional character
― symsymsym, Friday, 21 April 2023 23:32 (eleven months ago) link
also everyone who says they only sleep x number of not vary many hours is lying, which is in some way worse they think not sleeping is cool
― lag∞n, Saturday, 22 April 2023 01:59 (eleven months ago) link
theres also the studies that have found that insomniacs are sleeping when they claim to not be, and they really believe it, the human mind is a total freak show more or less
― lag∞n, Saturday, 22 April 2023 02:01 (eleven months ago) link
I don't even own a bed.
― This machine bores fascism (PBKR), Saturday, 22 April 2023 02:30 (eleven months ago) link
You hipster.
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 22 April 2023 02:34 (eleven months ago) link
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/95/ed/d6/95edd6e371b26d44171e54a8dde890ed.jpg
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 22 April 2023 02:35 (eleven months ago) link
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FuVa0jnXwAEweUz?format=jpg&name=medium
― lag∞n, Saturday, 22 April 2023 17:26 (eleven months ago) link
Photoshop some Uggs on him
― papal hotwife (milo z), Saturday, 22 April 2023 17:28 (eleven months ago) link
The 'Trump sucks' thread has morphed into the 'DeSantis sucks' thread so slowly I barely noticed. No doubt Ronald would consider this a measure of success.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Saturday, 22 April 2023 17:31 (eleven months ago) link
ive come to think of ron as the shadow trump
― lag∞n, Saturday, 22 April 2023 17:32 (eleven months ago) link
https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/611rNkvs4yL._AC_UY1000_.jpg
― when you wish upon a tsar (Ye Mad Puffin), Saturday, 22 April 2023 17:36 (eleven months ago) link
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FuVa0jnXwAEweUz?format=jpg&name=mediumhttps://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/01/Mr._Stay-Puft_Marshmallow_Man.png
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 22 April 2023 18:09 (eleven months ago) link
https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/xg4AAOSwordihZQM/s-l1600.jpg
― when you wish upon a tsar (Ye Mad Puffin), Saturday, 22 April 2023 18:35 (eleven months ago) link
https://img.songfacts.com/calendar/5092.jpg
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 22 April 2023 18:47 (eleven months ago) link
https://sadgeezer.com/wp-content/uploads/ZappyZapperZappBrannigan-e1559057296778.jpg
― nashwan, Saturday, 22 April 2023 18:52 (eleven months ago) link
desantis' boots only white to distract from the weird fuckin shit going on with the cop's left foot - looks like he's just snapped his ankle?
― dicbo=v2-ubswizzb&hrt (stevie), Saturday, 22 April 2023 19:03 (eleven months ago) link
https://cdn2.ezcosplay.com/media/catalog/product/d/i/disney_the_incredibles_2_syndrome_white_shoes_cosplay_boots_1.jpg
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 22 April 2023 19:57 (eleven months ago) link
I just read a piece speculating that Trump might pick Marge Greene as his running mate. Please, oh please.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Saturday, 22 April 2023 19:58 (eleven months ago) link
The day he selects a woman VP candidate is the day I know he has at least one real, existing campaign manager still
― fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Saturday, 22 April 2023 20:51 (eleven months ago) link
You say that now, but when it turns out to be Ivanka...
― but also fuck you (unperson), Saturday, 22 April 2023 21:32 (eleven months ago) link
Pencil it in!
New via AJC: Fulton County DA Fani Willis tells law enforcement to expect a decision on whether Trump will be charged over his efforts to overturn 2020 election results between July 11 and September 1.— Hugo Lowell (@hugolowell) April 24, 2023
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 24 April 2023 21:07 (eleven months ago) link
Willis revealed the timetable in a letter to local law enforcement in which she asked them to be ready for “heightened security and preparedness” because she predicted her announcement “may provoke a significant public reaction.”
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 24 April 2023 21:09 (eleven months ago) link
just do it now whats the problem
― lag∞n, Monday, 24 April 2023 21:09 (eleven months ago) link
Gotta prepare, I guess. Police barriers don't put up themselves.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 24 April 2023 21:12 (eleven months ago) link
Between July 11 and September 1. Okay.
Possibly in Fulton County but maybe in, heck, I dunno, Tulsa?
There will be between 1 and 73 charges.
Possible statutes under which the charges may fall can be found in U.S. Code sections 1 through 597, and Georgia Code sections 2 through 434.
― when you wish upon a tsar (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 24 April 2023 22:12 (eleven months ago) link
"I'm not a candidate, so we'll see if and when that changes," Gov. DeSantis, who is in Japan right now, says when asked about polls that show him falling behind Trump. pic.twitter.com/nDVeyBoVHN— Kaitlan Collins (@kaitlancollins) April 24, 2023
― lag∞n, Monday, 24 April 2023 22:15 (eleven months ago) link
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FufxgCaXsAEjOar?format=jpg&name=900x900
don't think I've heard him speak before.this man is never going to be president.
― the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 24 April 2023 22:31 (eleven months ago) link
This has not been altered. https://t.co/lHvOqYgpuc— Richard M. Nixon (@dick_nixon) April 24, 2023
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 24 April 2023 22:32 (eleven months ago) link
It's like he can't hide his general resentment of the world and dislike of being questioned, and can only react with sarcasm. I do wonder what that cut in the middle of the video is about, though, so it seems like the video has been altered at least a little to cut out something in the middle
― Dan S, Monday, 24 April 2023 22:40 (eleven months ago) link
or maybe just to reframe his response
― Dan S, Monday, 24 April 2023 22:41 (eleven months ago) link
Kinda rocking the Paul Lynde vibe - camp is king
― Andy the Grasshopper, Monday, 24 April 2023 22:51 (eleven months ago) link
did not think I could possibly hate this guy anymore but the way he talk about "the N-word" every single time he gets up to speak is so fucking infuriating. even as a bad South Park style joke it makes no sense!! people say "nuclear" all the time! idk just feels like with all the talk about Trump being a criminal and traitor he felt the need to remind them that he's also a racist as well
― frogbs, Tuesday, 25 April 2023 15:10 (eleven months ago) link
thats him
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 25 April 2023 15:20 (eleven months ago) link
ron!
New story, more to come: Disney sues Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis over control of self-governing district >> https://t.co/7Q64zl1fLS— Daniel Arkin (@d_arkin) April 26, 2023
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 26 April 2023 16:22 (eleven months ago) link
i would like a browser plugin that automatically replaces any image of desantis with the recent one with his mouth wide open
― z_tbd, Wednesday, 26 April 2023 16:27 (eleven months ago) link
how is that man only like 2 years older than me
― Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Wednesday, 26 April 2023 16:29 (eleven months ago) link
every time you try to completely fuck over an innocent person, it ages you 20 seconds. it doesn't sound like a lot but it has quickly added up for ron
― z_tbd, Wednesday, 26 April 2023 16:32 (eleven months ago) link
Alex Jones is only 49
― Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 26 April 2023 16:49 (eleven months ago) link
― Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Wednesday, 26 April 2023 16:53 (eleven months ago) link
xxp if this were true Trump would have been dead at 30
― The Terroir of Tiny Town (WmC), Wednesday, 26 April 2023 16:55 (eleven months ago) link
Alex Jones' death will be the most predictable thing ever, yet will still be viewed as an unexplainable mystery by his fans
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Wednesday, 26 April 2023 16:57 (eleven months ago) link
Judge in Carroll v. Trump case admonished Trump for social media comments, telling Trump's lawyer: “We’re getting into an area, conceivably, where your client may or may not be tampering with a new source of potential liability" https://t.co/ZgG18joSc3— erica orden (@eorden) April 26, 2023
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 26 April 2023 16:57 (eleven months ago) link
Trump's lawyer seemed to acknowledge the difficulty of restraining his client: “Here’s all I can tell you: I will speak to my client and ask him to refrain from any further posts regarding this case...I will do the best I can do, your honor. That’s all I can say.”— erica orden (@eorden) April 26, 2023
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 26 April 2023 16:58 (eleven months ago) link
Reading between lines that are triple spaced apart.
― the body of a spider... (scampering alpaca), Wednesday, 26 April 2023 17:18 (eleven months ago) link
why would anyone even take him as a client doesnt pay doesnt listen toxic reputation
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 26 April 2023 17:21 (eleven months ago) link
i mean i guess it could raise your profile but more likely than not prospective clients would be turned off by the association
con: you get disbarredpro: you become a pundit on fox news
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 26 April 2023 17:23 (eleven months ago) link
punditry does seem better than lawyering tbf
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 26 April 2023 17:25 (eleven months ago) link
Never thought I would be rooting for Disney in a jurisdiction dispute but here we are
strange bedfellows
Suddenly I'm in House Mouse
― pinot grigioriffic (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 26 April 2023 17:56 (eleven months ago) link
lol yeah prior to this brouhaha Disney was very persona non grata in my circle for how they treated international exchange employees during the pandemic, as well as how poorly they pay and treat their employees (when compared to Universal Studios).
but sometimes the enemy of the enemy is your friend!
― Cthulhu Diamond Phillips (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 26 April 2023 17:58 (eleven months ago) link
I've started to realize a lot of lawyers love being on TV so maybe that's why
― frogbs, Wednesday, 26 April 2023 18:00 (eleven months ago) link
Neanderthal, my man: I was reflexively anti-Disney for most of my life. But in perhaps 2018, my wife and children sat me down and basically told me that there was a narrow window in which we would, collectively, be likely to enjoy a vacation in that allegedly magical place, and we needed to do it exactly then.
So I obligingly contributed something like eight thousand dollars to your local economy. (You're welcome.) We had an okay time. My children outgrew everything Disney-related. After that I didn't ever want to think about the Mouse again, and now here I am thinking about MouseCorp again. Fuck you, Ron.
― pinot grigioriffic (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 26 April 2023 18:10 (eleven months ago) link
i actually went last month! had been my first time in like 15 years, lol.
― Cthulhu Diamond Phillips (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 26 April 2023 18:27 (eleven months ago) link
I went to Disneyland when I was about five and have almost no memory of it other than the submarine ride and the Pirates of the Caribbean ride, which was a little scary. I went to Disney World when I was 10 — I remember that one a little better, because EPCOT had just opened. It was fine. I enjoyed watching the Disney TV show as a kid way more than I did going to the actual parks.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 26 April 2023 18:49 (eleven months ago) link
All that said, I hope Disney steamrolls DeSantis until he's personally on the street shaking a cup for coins.
DeSantis seems hellbent on being the most despised politician in the country, which doesn't bode well for his political future
― Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 26 April 2023 20:13 (eleven months ago) link
In my experience, Disney World is fantastic for a child, a nightmare for an adult. It's also a perfectly tuned machine for separating parents from their money. I'll be happy if I never have to go again, although I hope I'm lucky enough to have grandchildren to take.
That said, I hope they crush this little upstart like the insect he is.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 26 April 2023 20:16 (eleven months ago) link
funny thing re ron saying hes not a candidate the other day i got an ad for his presidency during the nba playoffs last night
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 26 April 2023 20:16 (eleven months ago) link
im sure it was via some super pac but it was indistinguishable from a regular old campaign ad
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 26 April 2023 20:17 (eleven months ago) link
Disney World is wonderful. Good food and drink.
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 26 April 2023 20:21 (eleven months ago) link
I don't count as a Floridian, I suppose, but before the pandemic we'd often go and maybe hit one park in three days, there's so much stuff to do.
For me, it's complete sensory overload, like a casino. And the rides end up making me sick after a while.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 26 April 2023 20:23 (eleven months ago) link
Disney is great, though I doubt I'll go again until I am a grandparent, assuming I can even afford it by then.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 26 April 2023 20:24 (eleven months ago) link
Epcot is far from a sensory overload experience but ymmv
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 26 April 2023 20:25 (eleven months ago) link
I grew out of theme parks in general after a while. just a product of getting old. I'm a fiend for water rides but my friends never want to get wet. i'm like "it's 90 degrees in Florida, you'll be dry again in 20 minutes".
in my 20s, when I was mostly broke in college, my folks got me an annual pass to Universal Studios/Islands of Adventure, and it felt like the holy grail, like, I'd just drive there at random times because I wanted to ride a rollercoaster. then I started going there to ride the Hulk instead of going to class. i'd go with my friend and we'd spend literally all day there.
now, after four hours in a theme park, I'm already ready to tap out. it's hot, my legs get sore, and rollercoasters, though I still love them (and did the Dragster at Cedar Point before it permanently closed), I get head-aches and backaches like I never got before. Disney rides mostly don't have that problem but you'll walk a much longer distance there then at Universal. my friend does tours there for rich fams sometimes and walks like 8 miles a day.
Tron ride is top notch though, dope design and everything.
― Cthulhu Diamond Phillips (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 26 April 2023 20:27 (eleven months ago) link
Epcot has always been my fav, since childhood.
I still miss the Kitchen Kabaret show at The Land, which featured Pita Gabriel
Last time I spent three days at Universal with my kids, by the end I was ready to die.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 26 April 2023 20:32 (eleven months ago) link
I still like Busch Gardens because it has animals to look at, more walking space, and involves me leaving Orlando for the day.
also appreciate the one in Williamsburg, home to the Big Bad Wolf ride from the 80s to like maybe a decade ago.
― Cthulhu Diamond Phillips (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 26 April 2023 20:37 (eleven months ago) link
The giant roller coaster at Busch Gardens is the only thing I remember. I enjoyed that.
Honestly, my most memorable amusement park experience was going to Action Park in NJ as a teenager. That place was a terrifying, life-in-your-hands experience. Even the documentary about it doesn't fully convey just how fucked up and thoroughly late '70s/early '80s grimy/trashy it was.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 26 April 2023 20:39 (eleven months ago) link
having an annual pass to Universal gets you in free to the Mardi Gras concert series, which one year featured Al Green.
― Cthulhu Diamond Phillips (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 26 April 2023 20:40 (eleven months ago) link
(I went, but paid full price...was still worth it)
what would a Donald Trump theme park entail
― Cthulhu Diamond Phillips (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 26 April 2023 20:41 (eleven months ago) link
I don't ride many attractions these days; like I said, I treat Disney World as an expensive hanging-out experience.
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 26 April 2023 20:41 (eleven months ago) link
Universal kind of sucks, with the exception of immersive stuff like Harry Potter and maybe the Simpsons, it's mostly a bunch of indoor 3D motion simulators where a bunch of cartoons yell and spit at you.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 26 April 2023 20:45 (eleven months ago) link
a bunch of cartoons yell and spit at you.
i.e. just my typical morning walk in western Miami-Dade County
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 26 April 2023 20:46 (eleven months ago) link
Philip K Dick and Disneyland, what on earth PKD would have made of Trump I can't imagine
https://raynelson.com/phil.html
― hellboy falling through the bar (Matt #2), Wednesday, 26 April 2023 20:46 (eleven months ago) link
Used to go to fla every year. When I last went to Busch Gardens it was subtitled “the Dark Continent”
― dan selzer, Wednesday, 26 April 2023 21:31 (eleven months ago) link
I remember.
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 26 April 2023 21:31 (eleven months ago) link
I cannot fathom being a fully grown adult and not finding amusement parks to be a total nightmare. They are the most awful places on earth.
― Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Wednesday, 26 April 2023 23:45 (eleven months ago) link
Not my idea of a good time either but I liked OG Disneyland when I was 10.
― Every post of mine is an expression of eternity (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 27 April 2023 00:30 (eleven months ago) link
ive only been to disneyland when i was a kid but i do think disneyworld is interesting because of the scale its fuckin huge like a city and also just the mystique of it its really its own thing where as a like six flags or something is pretty generic, also something about it being such an insane expression of our culture, not sure id want to go tho, def not enough to actually go
― lag∞n, Thursday, 27 April 2023 00:33 (eleven months ago) link
i would check it out if it was easy tho def
― lag∞n, Thursday, 27 April 2023 00:37 (eleven months ago) link
Something inherently funny about the phrase "Disney regrets that it has come to this" https://t.co/usdFEkpNlj pic.twitter.com/uqZCKc0ale— Mike Bird (@Birdyword) April 26, 2023
while we’re sharing I hated amusement parks as a kid but kinda enjoyed Epcot because the food was better and it had low key educational shit and nice gardens to walk around in
― brimstead, Thursday, 27 April 2023 01:04 (eleven months ago) link
there was an extremely cool panoramic train journey movie thing through china
― brimstead, Thursday, 27 April 2023 01:05 (eleven months ago) link
epcot and going in epcot is one of my first memories. no idea what happened in there but it must have been fucked up
― z_tbd, Thursday, 27 April 2023 01:10 (eleven months ago) link
last (only?) time i went to disney when i was circa 8yo. space mountain was only a few years old and i was still scared of roller coasters, but i rode it with my (step)dad anyway. managed to avoid voiding myself during, reached the end, my dad lifted the restraining bar, and then there was this last sudden jerk that made my face hit the bar
it wasn't all *that* bad but my dad felt horrible about it for literally the rest of his life
― mookieproof, Thursday, 27 April 2023 01:53 (eleven months ago) link
while we’re sharing I hated amusement parks as a kid but kinda enjoyed Epcot because the food was better and it had low key educational shit and nice gardens to walk around inThe water jets at the Epcots gardens (that turned on and off quickly to shoot little coherent arcs of water, which you could catch in your hand) is the only thing I remember about my family's trip to Disney World when I was a kid.
― official representative of Roku's Basketshit in at least one alternate u (lukas), Thursday, 27 April 2023 02:05 (eleven months ago) link
My wife occasionally talks about how we need to go to Disney before the kids are too old and I totally “yes dear” it and continue about my business, confident that the cats in the cradle and the silver spoon that shit ain’t happenin’.
― Cow_Art, Thursday, 27 April 2023 02:20 (eleven months ago) link
I was taken to OG Disneyland as a cancer kiddie when I was 5, and then to Disney World every spring until I was 11. We always stayed in the Contemporary Resort; my aunt and uncle would go at the same time and stay in the Polynesian Village. While I have no love for Disney now, I picked up an enthusiasm for hotel breakfast buffets that persists even now :)
― steely flan (suzy), Thursday, 27 April 2023 11:35 (eleven months ago) link
Disney World is way more than an amusement park, lag∞n otm
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 27 April 2023 11:38 (eleven months ago) link
― Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, April 26, 2023 3:13 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink
Yeah, this is the thing, and it’s been said again and again that we can’t underestimate the awfulness of our fellow citizens, but: this guy is a charisma-free zone on top of being powerful troll. There is nothing appealing about this guy, even in a Joker like way. Do other elected Republicans even like him a little bit?
― The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 27 April 2023 11:42 (eleven months ago) link
― Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Wednesday, April 26, 2023 6:45 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink
And even as a kid - I never made it to any Disney property - I felt this way going to Kings Dominion or whatever. Hordes, noise, overpriced everything, endless lines.
― The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 27 April 2023 11:45 (eleven months ago) link
Liking him isn't the point, I don't think. It's liking what he does to woke libs.
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 27 April 2023 11:47 (eleven months ago) link
DeSantis will never be president. Trump “triggered libs” in a mischievous, sort of joyful way from the perspective of his fans. DeSantis’s personality is morbid and obsessive.
― treeship., Thursday, 27 April 2023 11:52 (eleven months ago) link
The danger of Trump was that he was and is a skilled entertainer. It almost disguised the hatefulness and danger.
― treeship., Thursday, 27 April 2023 11:53 (eleven months ago) link
If this sort of populist neo-fascist politics has a future in America the leader is more likely to be Tucker than DeSantis. Idk if Tucker has those kinds if ambitions but he could pull off the Trump thing.
― treeship., Thursday, 27 April 2023 11:55 (eleven months ago) link
The biggest difference between Disney and its closest competitors and peers is both obvious and oft overlooked: Disney has less teen appeal, which means fewer teens, which means less trouble; generally speaking, teens are priced out of going unless they're with their parents, who keep them in (relative) check, vs. Great America or whatever, where teens get dropped off and run amuck. And then next down the list is the (again, relative) lack of alcohol at Disney, which further reduces jackassery.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 27 April 2023 11:55 (eleven months ago) link
That has changed hugely, Josh. Even the Magic Kingdom sells beer and wine. And Epcot's food and wine festival is a bacchanal (I've never been).
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 27 April 2023 11:57 (eleven months ago) link
― treeship.,
See: Reagan, Ronald Wilson.
Teens these days are not trouble. The rebellious hooting and hollering days are over.
― treeship., Thursday, 27 April 2023 11:57 (eleven months ago) link
For some reason I don’t quite understand.
Wait, they have beer etc. throughout the Magic Kingdom? Not just at one or two spots now?
I've been to Epcot during the food and wine thing, it was nbd.
Anyway, teens.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 27 April 2023 12:03 (eleven months ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wCXr_6wgns
― Every post of mine is an expression of eternity (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 27 April 2023 12:17 (eleven months ago) link
Someone, I think it was John Jeremiah Sullivan, wrote a long-form article about going to Disney World with his kids and spending the whole time finding discreet places to get high.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 27 April 2023 12:47 (eleven months ago) link
Years ago Rich Juzwiak wrote about using Grindr at Disney World
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 27 April 2023 12:50 (eleven months ago) link
An old friend used to be a ride operator at Disney in the 90s and worked many a Grad Night and said lots of teens would fuck on the rides.
One night he saw a girl giving head to her bf and he shouted "hey!" and moments later the young man in the ride screamed, for it seems that the yell startled the young lady and she... inadvertently bit him.
― Cthulhu Diamond Phillips (Neanderthal), Thursday, 27 April 2023 13:00 (eleven months ago) link
Cher once described her marriage to Gregg Allman as like being at Disneyland on acid. Also, all this trippin' at Disney talk reminds me of Escape From Tomorrow, the full-length feature filmed on the down low at Disneyworld.
― henry s, Thursday, 27 April 2023 13:03 (eleven months ago) link
A former colleague of mine grew up not far from Orlando and used to go to Disney World regularly. He once dropped acid and got off the boat in Pirates. They had to coax him out of the scenery. That was his story, anyway.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 27 April 2023 13:22 (eleven months ago) link
https://longform.org/posts/you-blow-my-mind-hey-mickey
― dicbo=v2-ubswizzb&hrt (stevie), Thursday, 27 April 2023 13:23 (eleven months ago) link
That's the one. He's a good writer.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 27 April 2023 13:25 (eleven months ago) link
Man, I need to click some of these links!
The thing I *have* always savored in amusement parks are sky gondolas, or cable cars, or whatever you want to call them. I could straight up ride those all day long.
― The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 27 April 2023 13:26 (eleven months ago) link
I rode the sky ride at Busch Gardens Williamsburg with my then three year old son. Now, at 19, he still remembers and talks about it.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 27 April 2023 13:32 (eleven months ago) link
So I was kind of right, alcohol is not openly served and cannot be carried in the park, so is pretty much limited to table service at the restaurants (which are also expensive and generally require reservations). So "drinking" at Disney is not really a practical thing. Drugs, that's pretty easy, I imagine, though again, it's a high entry point to even get in (if you pardon the pun); why someone would pay $300 a day or whatever to get messed up at Disney is a mystery to me, but different strokes.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 27 April 2023 13:36 (eleven months ago) link
You're equating Disney with the Magic Kingdom. At the other three theme parks you can open carry drinks.
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 27 April 2023 13:45 (eleven months ago) link
I think a Trump theme park would be something like E. Buzz Miller's World of Adventure
"The Tunnel of Noxious Gases"
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 27 April 2023 13:47 (eleven months ago) link
The Canadian place in Epcot - I think it is called Le Cellier - fed me an utterly perfect meal one time.
Like, just perfect: Salad, wine, steak. I have eaten in some pretty good restaurants but for some reason that one just absolutely hit the spot. No notes whatsoever.
― pinot grigioriffic (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 27 April 2023 13:51 (eleven months ago) link
I was at an event at EPCOT about 15 years ago. While we were outside watching the fireworks, some guy maybe 30 yards away collapsed, apparently of a heart attack. They had EMTs on the scene in about five minutes. If I ever have a heart attack, I want to have it at Disney World.
That story also reminds me that Walt originally conceived of EPCOT as a model city of the future.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 27 April 2023 13:54 (eleven months ago) link
Main memory of Disneyland Paris is queuing for 40 mins with my kids for the teacup ride to see several entire cups taken up by loan adults. one middleaged German guy filmed himself on an i pad for the whole ride. pretty Tumpish behaviour in retrospect.
I did get some decent wine, tho.
― fetter, Thursday, 27 April 2023 13:55 (eleven months ago) link
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, April 27, 2023 9:54 AM (eight minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
that story is wild, a utopian vision that fell apart when walt realized youre not allowed to be the dictator of your own town in america, he wanted disney employees living there too so he could control their lives 24/7
― lag∞n, Thursday, 27 April 2023 14:06 (eleven months ago) link
and he was very serious about it it was the primary project of the last x number of years of his life he basically delegated all the movie and park responsibilities to focus on it
― lag∞n, Thursday, 27 April 2023 14:14 (eleven months ago) link
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, April 27, 2023 8:45 AM (twenty-four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
It's pretty much compulsory at World Showcase in Epcot, ime.
As much I enjoy this completely insane digression from the pustulant thread subject, there is also reddening's thread of DISNEY PARKS gossip.
― Beautiful Bean Footage Fetishist (Old Lunch), Thursday, 27 April 2023 14:14 (eleven months ago) link
The model of the model city at the Space Mountain exit always reminded me of Logan's Run.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 27 April 2023 14:16 (eleven months ago) link
― lag∞n, Thursday, April 27, 2023 10:06 AM bookmarkflaglink
and then they rolled out Celebration, the city that was a very mini version of that, and then divested and sold it, and now homeowners there hate it, and say they have to get approval from property management for just about any cosmetic change, including their garden, and can't even repair their own property because of the way the mortgages are written, they have to go through ownership, who often will leave things like major leaks sitting unrepaired for like years.
― Cthulhu Diamond Phillips (Neanderthal), Thursday, 27 April 2023 14:23 (eleven months ago) link
(and though I'm aware Homeowners Associations regularly govern things like lawn maintenance/etc, in Celebration, you have very few freedoms to customize your property at all, because the whole idea is that the whole property is supposed to look uniform, like a unit)
― Cthulhu Diamond Phillips (Neanderthal), Thursday, 27 April 2023 14:24 (eleven months ago) link
lol yeah hoas are about half way to local dictatorship
― lag∞n, Thursday, 27 April 2023 14:25 (eleven months ago) link
Was Trump the model for Biff Tannen?
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 27 April 2023 14:27 (eleven months ago) link
more on Celebration here: https://www.thedailybeast.com/celebration-florida-how-disneys-community-of-tomorrow-became-a-total-nightmare
― Cthulhu Diamond Phillips (Neanderthal), Thursday, 27 April 2023 14:28 (eleven months ago) link
xpost McMaster!!! (slaps head)
Back to the Future is a Universal property, we are talking about Disney.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 27 April 2023 14:30 (eleven months ago) link
I once had a friend that grew up in Celebration, he said it was great.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 27 April 2023 14:31 (eleven months ago) link
The Biff of Back to the Future II bears a strong resemblance to the Donald and the Casino and Pleasure Palace is not far off from Trump Tower.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 27 April 2023 14:34 (eleven months ago) link
Huh.
https://www.thejournal.ie/biff-tannen-donald-trump-bob-gale-2405112-Oct2015/
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 27 April 2023 14:39 (eleven months ago) link
the Trump of the 80s did not seem as thoroughly unlikeable and mean spirited as Biff was, though in hindsight he got it exactly right, which is pretty nuts considering Biff is one of the most unsubtle characters in cinematic history
― frogbs, Thursday, 27 April 2023 14:42 (eleven months ago) link
I hope he rots in hell and soon This was a grueling read and it breaks my heart that she hasn't had a romantic relationship or interation since this event. https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2023/04/26/e-jean-carroll-trump-testimony/
― Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Thursday, 27 April 2023 14:55 (eleven months ago) link
("this event" = being sexually assaulted by Donald Trump)
― Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Thursday, 27 April 2023 14:56 (eleven months ago) link
got him
Trump on John McCain’s funeral: “Just like his wars, it never ended.” pic.twitter.com/DiDbZLJcCY— David Pinsen (@dpinsen) April 26, 2023
― lag∞n, Thursday, 27 April 2023 17:36 (eleven months ago) link
when he defames mccain i see clearly the thrill he gives his followers
― lag∞n, Thursday, 27 April 2023 17:37 (eleven months ago) link
he's still got it
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 27 April 2023 17:38 (eleven months ago) link
― Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Thursday, 27 April 2023 18:19 (eleven months ago) link
saw some thing about how disney doesnt allow people to scatter loved ones ashes at the parks but people are always doing it anyway lol wild stuff
― lag∞n, Thursday, 27 April 2023 18:20 (eleven months ago) link
If my loved ones dump my ashes in the Magic Kingdom, I'm coming back and haunting their asses.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 27 April 2023 18:22 (eleven months ago) link
thats how they got the haunted house ride
― lag∞n, Thursday, 27 April 2023 18:23 (eleven months ago) link
my ashes are only permitted to be dumped on Tom G Warrior's head.
even if he dies before I do.
― Cthulhu Diamond Phillips (Neanderthal), Thursday, 27 April 2023 18:34 (eleven months ago) link
Wow, the only thing more cringe than having your ashes scattered in a corporate theme park is having your ashes surreptitiously scattered in a corporate theme park because the corporation actively doesn't want people scattering ashes there.
Like I am reasonably fond of Fender guitars and Jim Beam whiskey. But if the guitar factory and/ot whiskey distillery did not want my ashes to be placed there, I would not want my descendants to actively go against the wishes of the business.
― pinot grigioriffic (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 27 April 2023 18:55 (eleven months ago) link
if you throw your ashes where they not wanted and someone eats or drinks yr ashes by mistake u got nobody to blame but urself
― Cthulhu Diamond Phillips (Neanderthal), Thursday, 27 April 2023 18:59 (eleven months ago) link
A pair of students two classes before mine got expelled for getting caught tripping at Disney World.
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 27 April 2023 19:00 (eleven months ago) link
I hope he rots in hell and soonThis was a grueling read and it breaks my heart that she hasn't had a romantic relationship or interation since this event.https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2023/04/26/e-jean-carroll-trump-testimony/
― Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Thursday, April 27, 2023 7:55 AM bookmarkflaglink
FYI, there is a rape trial happening against Donald Trump now.
― felicity, Thursday, 27 April 2023 20:13 (eleven months ago) link
Sadly, it is a civil suit, so he won't go to prison.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 27 April 2023 20:37 (eleven months ago) link
Think the point's more that it's a bit jarring and uncomfortable for the posts after Lechera's to be lols at the man's quips and theme park talk.
― Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 27 April 2023 20:44 (eleven months ago) link
theme park talk convo began well before LL's post
― Cthulhu Diamond Phillips (Neanderthal), Thursday, 27 April 2023 20:47 (eleven months ago) link
you gotta wait seven posts thats the rule
― lag∞n, Thursday, 27 April 2023 20:49 (eleven months ago) link
Yes I am aware Neanderthal, don't think that changes anything tbh.
― Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 27 April 2023 20:50 (eleven months ago) link
I never found the guy 'funny' and entertaining to talk about, esp during his campaign in 2016 - yeah, we all didn't think he had a chance in Hell to win, but the ugliness and toxicity he was encouraging made me to distressed to enjoy any part of it. only cathartic LOLs at his expense when he was soundly defeated brought me joy.
I think the theme park convo emerged from one of many tangents that came out of bashing DeSantis. i don't begrudge that, we're all living in Hell right now and sometimes need a little diversion.
but yes it is worth remembering Trump is a literal rapist and monster and as much as we would love the guy to get his legal comeuppance, we'd all be better off if he just fuckin dropped dead
― Cthulhu Diamond Phillips (Neanderthal), Thursday, 27 April 2023 20:51 (eleven months ago) link
pretty sure everyone here knows hes bad
― lag∞n, Thursday, 27 April 2023 20:52 (eleven months ago) link
I think we all agree that his death will be the first good thing he's done for anyone else.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 27 April 2023 20:54 (eleven months ago) link
It's more to do with this theme park talk after that a link to that testimony was dropped yesterday.
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 27 April 2023 20:56 (eleven months ago) link
you guys should see some of the other stuff hes done
― lag∞n, Thursday, 27 April 2023 21:01 (eleven months ago) link
Guys your stale zings aren’t as important as maybe discussing the literal trial against him now, if you’re not interested then you’re free not to comment, but we’re also free to look at how eager people were to change the subject when that testimony was posted, and draw our own conclusions.
― Everybody's gonna get what they got coming (gyac), Thursday, 27 April 2023 21:02 (eleven months ago) link
I can speak only for myself, I didn't mean to change the subject, the crosstalk is just sometimes hard to keep up with. I don't think anyone is interested in minimizing his egregious behavior, I just have zero hope that anything resembling justice will come of this latest trial.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 27 April 2023 21:04 (eleven months ago) link
no ones changing subject lol get a grip
― lag∞n, Thursday, 27 April 2023 21:04 (eleven months ago) link
Justice would be him getting eaten by rabid jackals.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 27 April 2023 21:05 (eleven months ago) link
im pretty sure im the one who hates him the most and understands how bad he is
― lag∞n, Thursday, 27 April 2023 21:07 (eleven months ago) link
Yeah whatever you’re so irony poisoned it doesn’t matter, I get it
― Everybody's gonna get what they got coming (gyac), Thursday, 27 April 2023 21:08 (eleven months ago) link
xp Marla?
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 27 April 2023 21:09 (eleven months ago) link
― ꙮ (map), Thursday, 27 April 2023 21:10 (eleven months ago) link
yes everyone who isnt behaving according to you thread rules must be poisoned ok
― lag∞n, Thursday, 27 April 2023 21:10 (eleven months ago) link
It is pretty easy to get jaded when this motherfucker does quite literally whatever the hell he wants and suffers absolutely no consequences.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 27 April 2023 21:11 (eleven months ago) link
If what you're getting from these posts is "these ppl think we don't know Trump is bad" you're very much missing the point.
mamy xposts
― Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 27 April 2023 21:12 (eleven months ago) link
lagoon, friend, you’re being an asshole
― slai gorgeous-alexander (m bison), Thursday, 27 April 2023 21:13 (eleven months ago) link
xp Thanks for the explainer.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 27 April 2023 21:13 (eleven months ago) link
― slai gorgeous-alexander (m bison), Thursday, April 27, 2023 5:13 PM (thirty-seven seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink
nope sorry im drawing the line here feel free to message me if you want to talk more
― lag∞n, Thursday, 27 April 2023 21:14 (eleven months ago) link
That was directed at lagoon, not you jim.
― Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 27 April 2023 21:14 (eleven months ago) link
Peace
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 27 April 2023 21:15 (eleven months ago) link
― Daniel_Rf, Thursday, April 27, 2023 5:12 PM (two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
what exactly is the point here i looked back and i cant even follow the thread tbh
― lag∞n, Thursday, 27 April 2023 21:16 (eleven months ago) link
the important thing is to immediately assume bad faith
― Cthulhu Diamond Phillips (Neanderthal), Thursday, 27 April 2023 21:16 (eleven months ago) link
I just wanted to post about what he did to E Jean and how sad it made me that it affected her life so entirely. I don’t care if he goes to prison for it — I care that we never forget who he is and it’s also worth remembering how brave a person has to be to take him on publicly. E Jean Carroll had a pretty good life going and then this asshead came along in her 50s and assaulted her. Just wtf. That’s all.
― Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Thursday, 27 April 2023 21:28 (eleven months ago) link
yeah its awful, hes awful, i hope she and others hes harmed can find some relief
― lag∞n, Thursday, 27 April 2023 21:35 (eleven months ago) link
It's extraordinary both legally and financially that E. Jean Carroll could bring this claim at all. A lot of mountains had to be moved to bring this to trial. Her testimony is harrowing and 100% credible.
― felicity, Thursday, 27 April 2023 21:49 (eleven months ago) link
Amanda Marcotte: https://www.salon.com/2023/04/27/e-jean-carroll-rape-trial-full-misogny/
― BrianB, Thursday, 27 April 2023 21:57 (eleven months ago) link
Reading about this trial it’s the same old pattern that repeats over centuries cos it works. Trump’s lawyer is constantly picking holes, knowing that he doesn’t have to completely demolish the story (which he can’t) and just suggesting lack of credibility is enough, which usually it is. Women lie, they’re motivated by money, they do contradictory things, it doesn’t matter that my client is as prolific a liar as you’ll meet, what about her, what did she do. It goes from what he did to what she did, and there honestly is a point where these strategies are so well known, and yet people still fucking fall for them. Misogyny is so pervasive. I can’t imagine a number in the world large enough to persuade me to bring a trial against this man, let alone for this, if I was in her shoes. I imagine she must live in constant fear and although her transcripts read as calm, she’s had a lot of time to think about it and it’s just what happened. I wish her well but I fear the worst.
― Everybody's gonna get what they got coming (gyac), Thursday, 27 April 2023 22:05 (eleven months ago) link
yeah i hope she wins a gets some money at least but the risk of bringing the suit is pretty big, like im sure shes effectively in hiding now and prob will be for a while
― lag∞n, Thursday, 27 April 2023 22:11 (eleven months ago) link
That article BrianB posted about the misogyny defense makes a good point about framing.
"The misogyny defense attempts to shift the frame from "did he do it?" to "isn't she annoying by making a fuss over this?" So many of us have been conditioned to dismiss women's voices that the misogyny defense still, in 2023, has a whole lot of power."
― felicity, Thursday, 27 April 2023 22:18 (eleven months ago) link
I wonder if Trump is gonna even make an appearance in the courtroom
If he doesn't, that will speak volumes to the jury
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 27 April 2023 22:36 (eleven months ago) link
He won't. It's part of the (flawed) strategy to subliminally suggest that E. Jean isn't someone worth listening to.
E. Jean Carroll expressed that she wanted her day in court and to tell her story. So that's her goal. I get it. Not everyone wants that but I think it's important to accept that being heard and seen is what E. Jean Carroll wants out of it.
It was heartbreaking to hear that, of the 2 friends E. Jean Carroll told about the rape at the time, one friend told E. Jean to go to the police (Lisa Birnbach - respect to her) and the other told her not to bother. Just shows you how powerful and internalized the misogynistic culture of victim blaming and shaming is.
― felicity, Thursday, 27 April 2023 22:47 (eleven months ago) link
I think not going to the police is tough because it’s not so much internalised misogyny so much as structural. Will the police take a person seriously? Will they leave a rape kit on the shelf? Will the person have to relive the experience and tell the story again and again while the police ask intrusive and painful questions? One of the reasons rape and sexual assault are so underreported is due to structural disinterest; it’s not that people don’t know they should go to the police but it’s more like, on the balance of probabilities will my life become worse as a result of this?I would never recommend someone didn’t report, but I’d also entirely understand why they didn’t.
― Everybody's gonna get what they got coming (gyac), Thursday, 27 April 2023 22:53 (eleven months ago) link
Thanks for posting what I was going to post, gyac— there are plenty of reasons why people don’t go to the police in sexual assault cases, not all of them have to do with internalized misogyny and shame.
― Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Thursday, 27 April 2023 22:56 (eleven months ago) link
She also mentioned in her testimony that she felt a lot of shame and confusion over putting herself in that situation in first place, and that may have led to her reluctance to report
it's pretty chilling stuff: one minute they were laughing and joking, the next he was shoving her against the dressing room wall... like the flick of a switch. Dude's a psycho
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 27 April 2023 22:58 (eleven months ago) link
Internalised misogyny does play a part - felicity is not wrong about that. But societal failures at prosecution are incredibly damaging and are probably one of the clearest examples of structural misogyny. NB I am not saying only women are raped, they are the majority of victims in most reporting but in general the number of unreported cases is so large, it is impossible to know.To circle back to Trump, this means that there are certainly other people out there who have so far chosen not to come forward. Maybe this testimony will encourage them, but they may also see the reaction and decide to stay silent.
― Everybody's gonna get what they got coming (gyac), Thursday, 27 April 2023 23:00 (eleven months ago) link
Which, yknow, as someone who is abolition minded and very much ACAB, I also understand why people report, but think that it is up to the person who was assaulted. Some people want accountability processes and community acknowledgment and etc, and that’s also fine.
― Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Thursday, 27 April 2023 23:04 (eleven months ago) link
my understanding is EJC's boss at the time was friends with trump and she was certain she would be fired on top of everything else had she gone public with the story
― Clay, Thursday, 27 April 2023 23:15 (eleven months ago) link
This just happened… pic.twitter.com/fQLVkSxP8c— Jacob N. Kornbluh (@jacobkornbluh) April 27, 2023
When your nieces and nephews make you eat CiCi’s Pizza for lunch.
― papal hotwife (milo z), Thursday, 27 April 2023 23:15 (eleven months ago) link
the man does not know the first thing about the clean and jerk
― lag∞n, Thursday, 27 April 2023 23:18 (eleven months ago) link
To be clear I was talking about E. Jean Carroll's self blaming in her particular case and how much she felt herself to blame that she put herself in a position where it could happen in the first place.
And if you are a media personality and at some level you report to (serial sexual assaulter) Roger Ailes and even your successful women friends are telling you not to bother reporting it because of who the rapist is, that's the product of not just structural indifference but a very specific calculus that must be made against a tightly controlled system of enabling and oppressing women that comes from the very top of society.
https://news.yahoo.com/trump-rape-accuser-e-jean-200640059.html
xxxp
― felicity, Thursday, 27 April 2023 23:21 (eleven months ago) link
Yes, that makes sense. A lot of people struggle with exactly that. And yes, excellent point re Ailes.
― Everybody's gonna get what they got coming (gyac), Thursday, 27 April 2023 23:28 (eleven months ago) link
OJ Simpson evaded criminal charges, but lost in the civil case - and never really escaped that ruling
I know monetary damages won't affect Trump much (he probably has abuse allegations insurance, for all we know), but the judgment of a jury definitely will
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 27 April 2023 23:38 (eleven months ago) link
There are exactly zero Trump fans itt as far as I can tell. But the point is well taken that we could focus a bit more on him being a rapist who has ruined the lives of real human people, plus a raging racist. Not just a comic book bad guy with bad taste in decor.
Like, sure, there are a thousand reasons to hate this fuckin guy, he's really hateable. But let's also listen to voices directing our attention to those most harmed. It isn't about his ugly hair or stupid ties. It's about the people he hurts with his callous behavior, which is part and parcel with his casually cruel politics. It's all related.
― pinot grigioriffic (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 28 April 2023 01:31 (eleven months ago) link
if you want to talk about something go ahead engage the conversation, the sort of meta thread monitoring approach isnt really good for much imho
― lag∞n, Friday, 28 April 2023 01:38 (eleven months ago) link
also the conversation as to whether its ok to goof on horrible people is so tiresome, its ok goofin is fine
― lag∞n, Friday, 28 April 2023 01:53 (eleven months ago) link
anyway trumps out there quoting lenin while were debating thread policing
Trump quotes Vladimir Lenin, a Communist tyrant, while continuing to deny outcome of 2020 election pic.twitter.com/kV5fDh5NVl— Based Barry (@BasedBarryFan) April 27, 2023
― lag∞n, Friday, 28 April 2023 02:00 (eleven months ago) link
I think the issue is that Trump is a comedian. A lot of the clowning is self-clowning, he’s in on it, and he uses it to his advantage. Sartre, not Leneen, was the best at understanding guys like him:
Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.
― treeship., Friday, 28 April 2023 02:28 (eleven months ago) link
He is doing a schtick. The more people focus on Donald Trump the character the less they can envision Donald Trump the rapist. I think he is in control of the performance and his absurdity almost always bounces to his advantage.
― treeship., Friday, 28 April 2023 02:34 (eleven months ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snRlPpAZMuo
― Perverted By Linguiça (sleeve), Friday, 28 April 2023 02:35 (eleven months ago) link
i dont think theres much of a dichotomy between those two aspects its all in the schtick, as the saying goes the cruelty is the point xp
― lag∞n, Friday, 28 April 2023 02:37 (eleven months ago) link
I think if you really think about what you just said up there about literal rape being part of a schtick, you might reconsider.
And I don't know if the point of the schtick is the cruelty. More likely the point of the schtick is distraction.
treeship's quote reminds me of this Toni Morrison quote and this Paris Review article about the triple violence of the KKK joke:
“The function, the very serious function of racism is distraction. It keeps you from doing your work. It keeps you explaining, over and over again, your reason for being. Somebody says you have no language and you spend twenty years proving that you do. Somebody says your head isn’t shaped properly so you have scientists working on the fact that it is. Somebody says you have no art, so you dredge that up. Somebody says you have no kingdoms, so you dredge that up. None of this is necessary. There will always be one more thing.” — Toni Morrison
https://www.theparisreview.org/blog/2020/07/02/the-pain-of-the-kkk-joke/
― felicity, Friday, 28 April 2023 06:50 (eleven months ago) link
Just positing here that while I am sympathetic to felicity’s point, there is also the fact that nothing has harmed Trump so far— nothing. All of us know this and are tired of it, and some of us might resort to dunking on the sadistic morherfucker because that‘s all we have against him that we know can stick.
― Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Friday, 28 April 2023 11:36 (eleven months ago) link
also tho:
― Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Friday, 28 April 2023 11:49 (eleven months ago) link
Don't see why literal rape couldn't be part of the schtick tbh
― Toploader on the road, unite and take over (Bananaman Begins), Friday, 28 April 2023 12:00 (eleven months ago) link
its not news that trump is a sexual predator he was elected president with this information available one can only assume that his fans like it, which does track with his general fash shit
― lag∞n, Friday, 28 April 2023 12:01 (eleven months ago) link
"Len-EEN".
Extraordinary.
― the pinefox, Friday, 28 April 2023 12:12 (eleven months ago) link
xp yeah it’s extremely on brand, “When you’re famous they let you do it”
― Everybody's gonna get what they got coming (gyac), Friday, 28 April 2023 12:31 (eleven months ago) link
Sorry that was to BB xps
― Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Friday, April 28, 2023 4:36 AM bookmarkflaglink
I don't think it's remotely true that "nothing" has harmed Trump.
I also think that it's a straw man argument to suggest that your need for dunking is somehow at odds with a serious discussion of the rape trial. I just found it odd that LL mentioned there is a rape trial going on - you'd think this would provide ample opportunity for zings and lols - but rather than acknowledge her, it was just ignored.
I have to ask, which point have I made exactly that you're sympathetic to?
― felicity, Friday, 28 April 2023 12:39 (eleven months ago) link
also the conversation as to whether its ok to goof on horrible people is so tiresome
No one said this?
― felicity, Friday, 28 April 2023 12:48 (eleven months ago) link
i could just see it coming, and tbf you ignored the rape trial story too in favor of thread policing, if you want to talk about it just talk about it
― lag∞n, Friday, 28 April 2023 12:49 (eleven months ago) link
that did happen eventually and it was a good conversation right no one cried and demanded trump gifs
― lag∞n, Friday, 28 April 2023 12:50 (eleven months ago) link
Hilarious how quickly people explode into “NOBODY TELLS ME WHAT TO SAY” with relatively little provocation.
― Everybody's gonna get what they got coming (gyac), Friday, 28 April 2023 12:56 (eleven months ago) link
you seem to have experience with this
― lag∞n, Friday, 28 April 2023 12:58 (eleven months ago) link
No, I don’t think I’ve ever thrown a tantrum bc someone was like “maybe you could not just skip past a post about sexual assault and stow your unfunny jokes”
― Everybody's gonna get what they got coming (gyac), Friday, 28 April 2023 13:01 (eleven months ago) link
also hilariously how someone who hardly posts here emerges every few months to police threads
Just positing here that while I am sympathetic to felicity’s point, there is also the fact that nothing has harmed Trump so far— nothing. All of us know this and are tired of it, and some of us might resort to dunking on the sadistic morherfucker because that‘s all we have against him that we know can stick.― Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Friday, April 28, 2023 4:36 AM bookmarkflaglinkI don't think it's remotely true that "nothing" has harmed Trump. I also think that it's a straw man argument to suggest that your need for dunking is somehow at odds with a serious discussion of the rape trial. I just found it odd that LL mentioned there is a rape trial going on - you'd think this would provide ample opportunity for zings and lols - but rather than acknowledge her, it was just ignored.I have to ask, which point have I made exactly that you're sympathetic to?
― Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Friday, 28 April 2023 13:02 (eleven months ago) link
whos throwing a tantrum
― lag∞n, Friday, 28 April 2023 13:02 (eleven months ago) link
Many xps
"tbf" my entry into this thread was literally:
I hope he rots in hell and soonThis was a grueling read and it breaks my heart that she hasn't had a romantic relationship or interation since this event.https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2023/04/26/e-jean-carroll-trump-testimony/― Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Thursday, April 27, 2023 7:55 AM bookmarkflaglinkFYI, there is a rape trial happening against Donald Trump now.― felicity, Thursday, April 27, 2023 1:13 PM
― felicity, Thursday, April 27, 2023 1:13 PM
Where was the ignoring the rape trial in favor of thread policing - was it the "FYI" or the "there is a rape trial happening"?
Anyway, good luck finding the thread police, lag∞n. I wish you well.
― felicity, Friday, 28 April 2023 13:04 (eleven months ago) link
― Everybody's gonna get what they got coming (gyac), Friday, 28 April 2023 13:05 (eleven months ago) link
anyway i have to do work now if anyone wants to continue to fight with me over thread etiquette ill check back in later
― lag∞n, Friday, 28 April 2023 13:08 (eleven months ago) link
Given our past interactions, I won’t be engaging with you any longer― Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Friday, April 28, 2023 6:02 AM bookmarkflaglink
And .... SCENE!
What a great way to make your point that you're sympathetic to my point of listening to women.
No need to announce your departure from our little tête-a-tête. It's not an airport. You are welcome back any time.
― felicity, Friday, 28 April 2023 13:08 (eleven months ago) link
Just positing here that while I am sympathetic to felicity’s point, there is also the fact that nothing has harmed Trump so far— nothing.
I mean he was impeached twice, lost re-election, arrested once, will probably be arrested many more times in the future, and is probably singlehandedly responsible for the GOP's totally underwhelming performance during the last midterms. All the Trumpy shit is getting Republicans killed electorally and he's so thoroughly hollowed out the party that they don't really have another option. I mean I get the guy probably deserves the electric chair at this point but that is really not how this country works.
― frogbs, Friday, 28 April 2023 13:39 (eleven months ago) link
To flatten a personal disagreement with one woman into willful misogyny and ignoring all women is absurd.I believe E Jean Carroll and have advocated on behalf of survivors of sexual assault.
― Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Friday, 28 April 2023 13:49 (eleven months ago) link
Trump's like the inverse of a black hole, spewing inescapable harm, negativity and blackness in all directions. That's why I have no problems with digressions on his thread. News, dunking, debates, whether or not he wears a diaper, it's an outlet for seriousness and silliness in equal measure at this point, imo, because the dude himself is horrifically surreal.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 28 April 2023 13:53 (eleven months ago) link
Totally agree with that, Josh.
― felicity, Friday, 28 April 2023 13:56 (eleven months ago) link
frogbs, what I was trying to get at is that Trump himself has been put on trial and has tarnished his party, but he’s still fashing up our general body politic. People who have seen the so-called justice system fail to nab the fucker are rightfully cynical and might be more apt to focus on dunking on his image, as that seems to be something that can stick to him. That doesn’t mean not calling attention to the wrongness of his actions otherwise.
― Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Friday, 28 April 2023 13:56 (eleven months ago) link
Yeah I don’t think anyone started out thread policing but I hope the dynamics of how speaking up can cause backlash and trouble is fully on display. I really thought it was weird that no one responded to my post and continued to talk about amusement parks. I didn’t speak up about that. The ensuing defensiveness was why I didn’t. The parallels to speaking up bravely when a rich and powerful man assaults seem at the very least interesting to me. I was moved by EJC’s testimony. That’s what I wanted to say and what I said.
― Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Friday, 28 April 2023 13:57 (eleven months ago) link
Thank you for that link LL, EJC's testimony was very traumatic and powerful. If there's a hell, let Trump burn in it, and sooner rather than later.
― dicbo=v2-ubswizzb&hrt (stevie), Friday, 28 April 2023 14:02 (eleven months ago) link
I understand the weariness and fear of hope, but dunking on him absolutely doesn't stick. it's a free message board, post what you want, own what you post, people are free to judge you on what you post - but none of this is remotely the work, you'd be doing more good with a photocopier and a can of billboard paste.
― Andrew Farrell, Friday, 28 April 2023 14:12 (eleven months ago) link
point taken, LL . I admit that my cynicism is such that I don’t think Trump will face any consequences for his assault of E Jean Carroll, and that perhaps it’s worth evaluating how Trump himself has fostered this sense of cynicism and misogyny in the general body politic. I’m not immune from it, obviously.
― Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Friday, 28 April 2023 14:13 (eleven months ago) link
― Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Friday, 28 April 2023 14:18 (eleven months ago) link
E. Jean Carroll is doing important work by sticking to her guns in the face of everything thrown at her by Team Trump. You want a profile in courage? That is courage.
Making fun of his tiny hands or gold toilets or stupid ties or whatever (while admittedly fun) is not as courageous as what Carroll is doing.
I can't say whether any of it will lead to consequences - orange guy has been notoriously immune to real consequences basically forever, which is its own problem, larger than Trump. Privileged dudes getting away with heinous shit is a tale as old as time. It preexists him and will outlive him.
― Ice cubist (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 28 April 2023 14:32 (eleven months ago) link
I believe E Jean Carroll and have advocated on behalf of survivors of sexual assault.― Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Friday, April 28, 2023 6:49 AM bookmarkflaglink
― Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Friday, April 28, 2023 6:49 AM bookmarkflaglink
That's good to hear.
Anything that amplifies the actual testimony of E. Jean Carroll is a win in my book.
This opinion piece Donald Trump May Have Begun Losing by Katherine Miller the New York Times mentions the importance of truth-telling, creating evidence, and bearing collective witness as the function the January 6 commission. Although it does not mention the E. Jean Carroll rape trial as one of those, it talks about how important memorializing detailed witness accounts on a wide, public scale can be important. History is written by the victors, but even the losers will try to come along later to erase and deny history, which Trump is working extra hard to do at all times.
No one is disputing that it was known Trump was a sexual predator in 2016. What wasn't known until 2019 that Trump raped this particular woman, E. Jean Carroll. The details of what happened to her so strikingly resemble his "grab em by the" comment that the quote almost sounds like a confession. It is also fairly rare (at least in my experience) that a civil defendant would not attend his own trial. So that is newsworthy as well, as is the fact that (as discussed elsewhere on ILX) Trump could face contempt charges if he continues tweeting from the sidelines. One can only imagine how much gold Trump's side probably tried to stuff E. Jean Carroll's mouth with to shut her up rather than go to trial. The fact that she either couldn't be bought or they didn't try is something as well.
― felicity, Friday, 28 April 2023 14:34 (eleven months ago) link
Agreed, felicity.
― Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Friday, 28 April 2023 14:35 (eleven months ago) link
It’s interesting how little tolerance the judge has in this case for his usual shit. So you don’t have to give the Guardian a click:
Before Carroll took the stand, however, the judge in the case, Lewis A Kaplan, rebuked Trump for an “entirely inappropriate” statement on his social media platform, Truth Social, shortly before proceedings began.…Lawyers for Carroll, whose suit includes claims Trump previously defamed her by publicly calling her case a “hoax”, “scam”, “lie” and “complete con job”, mentioned his new statement to Kaplan.The judge told Trump’s lawyers: “What seems to be the case is that your client is basically endeavoring, certainly, to speak to his quote-unquote public, but, more troubling, the jury in this case about stuff that has no business being spoken about.”He also called Trump’s post “a public statement that, on the face of it, seems entirely inappropriate”.The Trump attorney Joe Tacopina noted that jurors are told not to follow any news or online commentary about the case. But he said he would ask Trump “to refrain from any further posts about this case”.“I hope you’re more successful,” Kaplan said, adding that Trump “may or may not be tampering with a new source of potential liability”.
― Everybody's gonna get what they got coming (gyac), Friday, 28 April 2023 14:44 (eleven months ago) link
Kaplan has been a long time judge in SDNY with a reputation for taking no bullshit.
― This machine bores fascism (PBKR), Friday, 28 April 2023 14:50 (eleven months ago) link
Oh nice. I didn't even notice the case was in federal court. Federal judges with lifetime appointments do not mess around.
― felicity, Friday, 28 April 2023 14:56 (eleven months ago) link
This being a defamation case I draw parallels (in my mind anyway) between the conduct of the judge here and in Depp-Heard. The judge in the latter allowed Depp fans to attend court in numbers, heckling and harassing Heard outside, and disrupt proceedings. She made the trial public viewing despite the large amount of testimony that was about sexual assault, so the public could use clips shorn of context for memes and mockery. That judge was an absolute abhorrent piece of shit. In terms of supporting someone going to court on such a matter, that was incredibly disgusting & set the tone very early on. I’m glad Kaplan is taking no such shit with this one because cases about rape and assault are difficult for accusers to deal with.
― Everybody's gonna get what they got coming (gyac), Friday, 28 April 2023 14:57 (eleven months ago) link
Two words: State. Court.
― felicity, Friday, 28 April 2023 14:59 (eleven months ago) link
One can only imagine how much gold Trump's side probably tried to stuff E. Jean Carroll's mouth with to shut her up rather than go to trial
?
I thought Trump's thing was almost never actually paying anyone ever for anything. My understanding was that the strategy with Carroll was threats and bluster, and bluster and threats.
Did Team Trump try to silence Carroll with actual money, a la Daniel's?
Sorry I am a bit behind on the list of hideous things done by this hideous person
― Ice cubist (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 28 April 2023 15:22 (eleven months ago) link
One of the reasons I am so impressed by E Jean’s testimony is because of her courage in the face of her largely victim-blaming generation. Imagine being 79 years old and testifying that a powerful rich ex president assaulted you when you were in your 50s — for a woman of her generation it’s Herculean imo. I also didn’t know about the judge — glad he has said something about social media/contempt bc if there’s one substance DJT runs on it’s the fuel of contempt (for court and women and POC and and and ) His blood is coursing with all sorts of contempt.
― Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Friday, 28 April 2023 15:26 (eleven months ago) link
Did Team Trump try to silence Carroll with actual money, a la Daniel's?Sorry I am a bit behind on the list of hideous things done by this hideous person― Ice cubist (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 28 April 2023 15:22 (twenty-two minutes ago) link
― Ice cubist (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 28 April 2023 15:22 (twenty-two minutes ago) link
We may never know but it seems likely to me. Although maybe offered in some plausible-deniability workaround type of way, which seemed to be his m.o.
Jill Harth discontinued her sexual assault claim against Trump at the time he structured an undisclosed settlement payment with Harth's boyfriend over a supposed business dealing (odd because he notoriously does not pay contractors). It was reported in the indictment that Trump had a "catch and kill" arrangement with the National Enquirer where he would pay for negative stories not to be published, and that money was offered to kill a story by at least one other woman besides Stormy Daniels (aka "Woman 2" and "Woman 1" in the indictment, respectively).
That's another problem for Trump. These proceedings get reduced to indictments and transcripts. Enablers go to jail or have to start cooperating. Evidence and testimony in any case can be used to cross-examine or support perjury of witnesses in other cases. And the wheels start coming off, even if it looks like no consequences so far.
This case may be different too because E. Jean Carroll's legal fees are funded by Reid Hoffman. So no chance she'll be forced by economic duress to drop the case.
― felicity, Friday, 28 April 2023 16:25 (eleven months ago) link
― felicity, Friday, April 28, 2023 10:59 AM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
gyac, not being in the US you might not understand felicity's point (a good one) that there is a pretty drastic difference (especially wrt the quality of judges) between the US federal court system and state court systems, which can be amazingly provincial (I clerked in one, I should know, lol). Just wanted to explain that further.
― This machine bores fascism (PBKR), Friday, 28 April 2023 17:20 (eleven months ago) link
Also, federal judges are more or less appointed for life, so they may have less shits to give.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 28 April 2023 17:23 (eleven months ago) link
*cough* Feinstein *cough*
― Ice cubist (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 28 April 2023 17:26 (eleven months ago) link
Meanwhile in New Hampshire:
After QAnon supporter Micki Larson-Olson was pointed out to Trump as a “Jan. 6-er” by the crowd at a packed diner, Trump sought her out, calling her “terrific,” telling her to “hang in there” and giving her a hug, video shows.
Larson-Olson said in an NBC News interview the next day that Trump is the “real president” and that she “would like a front seat of Mike Pence being executed.”
“The punishment for treason is death, per the Constitution,” Larson-Olson said. “I believe every single person, every single person that stole a voice from our collective voice of ‘We the people, of the people, for the people, by the people,’ deserves death, and no less than that.”
good people on both sides, etc. etc.
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 28 April 2023 17:29 (eleven months ago) link
xps you are really kind pbkr, i actually messaged her directly so as not to take up the thread with it :)
― Everybody's gonna get what they got coming (gyac), Friday, 28 April 2023 17:30 (eleven months ago) link
No problem, dual US system probably is wack to the outside world.
I'm a dummy and had to look up who Reid Hoffman is, but this is great.
― This machine bores fascism (PBKR), Friday, 28 April 2023 18:29 (eleven months ago) link
There are ultimately better uses of money, but if I were filthy rich it would be tempting to spend my wealth down funding lawsuits against Trump.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 28 April 2023 18:42 (eleven months ago) link
better this kind of thing than what the other reid (reed hastings) does with his money, i.e. fund charter school ballot measures and candidates for school boards.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, 30 April 2023 22:10 (eleven months ago) link
oh ron
DeSantis and his advisers loaded up his memoir with quotes about how he weaponized the state against Disney, as a selling point to GOP primary voters.All this is now evidence against him. I went through Disney's lawsuit and pulled out key quotes here:https://t.co/vgMZ9FlHa7 pic.twitter.com/PZlIQVjL3q— Greg Sargent (@ThePlumLineGS) May 2, 2023
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 2 May 2023 12:28 (eleven months ago) link
all I can think of is that scene from The Wire, "are you taking notes on a criminal conspiracy?"
― frogbs, Tuesday, 2 May 2023 13:45 (eleven months ago) link
Why are Democrats so intimidated by President Trump’s masculinity?— Brigitte Gabriel (@ACTBrigitte) May 2, 2023
― Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 2 May 2023 23:03 (eleven months ago) link
I know this one! Is it tofu?
― BrianB, Tuesday, 2 May 2023 23:13 (eleven months ago) link
The jury's seen Trump suggest that four women who have appeared in court are unattractive:* E. Jean Carroll* Jessica Leeds* Natasha Stoynoff* Carroll's attorney Robbie Kaplan(The jury, which has 6 men, 3 women, also saw him confuse Carroll with his ex-wife Marla Maples.) https://t.co/IdhNrDWa1N— Adam Klasfeld (@KlasfeldReports) May 4, 2023
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 4 May 2023 16:01 (eleven months ago) link
Heck of a defense
In the videotaped deposition, Trump grew agitated at time, crossing his arms over his chest. He defended his comments on the Access Hollywood tape: https://t.co/sSpYKoZOUl pic.twitter.com/Vuci1tF0Kn— erica orden (@eorden) May 4, 2023
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 4 May 2023 19:18 (eleven months ago) link
"But I would only grab someone I deemed sexual assault worthy, and I'm afraid your client doesn't make the cut.."
Yeah, hell of a defense
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 4 May 2023 19:26 (eleven months ago) link
The testimony of Jessica Leeds and Natasha Stonyoff is pretty damning as well.
Leeds testified that years after assaulting her Trump recognized her at an event and said, "I remember you, ... You’re that c*** from the airplane.”
Stonyoff testified that Trump pushed her into a room, shut the door, pushed her against the wall and started kissing her at Mar-a-Lago. Very similar to what he did to Carroll.
It's worth remembering that Trump is, on top of everything else, 6 feet 3 inches tall and heavy set.
Also, Trump has been ordered to pay the New York Times' legal fees for the case he lost about their reporting investigations into possible tax fraud.
― felicity, Thursday, 4 May 2023 19:44 (eleven months ago) link
"and you consider yourself to be a star?" is just ace cross-examining. he is bound by the terms of his self-image to affirm it immediately.
― J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Thursday, 4 May 2023 19:51 (eleven months ago) link
It is both funny and a provision of generous lengths of rope.
― felicity, Thursday, 4 May 2023 19:53 (eleven months ago) link
Well, I guess if you look over the last million years, that’s been largely true
I wish this would disqualify him among young-earthers but noooooo
― The Terroir of Tiny Town (WmC), Thursday, 4 May 2023 21:00 (eleven months ago) link
but fits right in with Scientology, so...
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 4 May 2023 21:04 (eleven months ago) link
Trump should seek Xenu in the molten crater of an erupting volcano.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 4 May 2023 21:09 (eleven months ago) link
Clears have been grabbing 'em for trillions of years, that's just how it goes
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 4 May 2023 21:16 (eleven months ago) link
DO IT
The judge in the Carroll trial says he will allow Trump's lawyer until 5pm on Sunday to make a motion "on behalf of Mr. Trump to reopen his case for the purpose and the sole purpose of testifying as a witness in this case."— erica orden (@eorden) May 4, 2023
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 4 May 2023 21:46 (eleven months ago) link
in a civil case like this, can trump appeal if found guilty? can carroll appeal if he's found not guilty?
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 4 May 2023 22:05 (eleven months ago) link
can trump appeal if found guilty? can carroll appeal if he's found not guilty?
I think the only thing Trump could appeal would be whether the size of the award was excessive. I don't think Carroll would have recourse to appeal if there was a finding of no damages.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 4 May 2023 22:40 (eleven months ago) link
Prosecutors investigating the former president’s handling of classified material have issued a wave of new subpoenas and obtained the confidential cooperation of a witness who worked at Mar-a-Lago.
The existence of an insider witness, whose identity has not been disclosed, could be a significant step in the investigation, which is being overseen by Jack Smith, the special counsel appointed by Attorney General Merrick B. Garland. The witness is said to have provided investigators with a picture of the storage room where the material had been held. Little else is known about what prosecutors might have learned from the witness or when the witness first began to provide information to the prosecutors.But prosecutors appear to be trying to fill in some gaps in their knowledge about the movement of the boxes, created in part by their handling of another potentially key witness, Mr. Trump’s valet, Walt Nauta. Prosecutors believe Mr. Nauta has failed to provide them with a full and accurate account of his role in any movement of boxes containing the classified documents.In the past few weeks, at least four more Mar-a-Lago employees have been subpoenaed, along with another person who had visibility into Mr. Trump’s thinking when he first returned material to the National Archives, according to people briefed on the matter. Two people said that nearly everyone who works at Mar-a-Lago has been subpoenaed, and that some who serve in fairly obscure jobs have been asked back by investigators.
But prosecutors appear to be trying to fill in some gaps in their knowledge about the movement of the boxes, created in part by their handling of another potentially key witness, Mr. Trump’s valet, Walt Nauta. Prosecutors believe Mr. Nauta has failed to provide them with a full and accurate account of his role in any movement of boxes containing the classified documents.
In the past few weeks, at least four more Mar-a-Lago employees have been subpoenaed, along with another person who had visibility into Mr. Trump’s thinking when he first returned material to the National Archives, according to people briefed on the matter. Two people said that nearly everyone who works at Mar-a-Lago has been subpoenaed, and that some who serve in fairly obscure jobs have been asked back by investigators.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 4 May 2023 23:33 (eleven months ago) link
sounds pretty serious
― lag∞n, Thursday, 4 May 2023 23:45 (eleven months ago) link
xxp Any lawyer that lets him testify in person should be immediately disbarred, but it's probably reached a point where if they don't let him 'exonerate' himself in person, they know they might not get paid
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 4 May 2023 23:52 (eleven months ago) link
Any lawyer that lets him testify in person...
As one of his lawyers recently stated 'all I can do is try'.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 5 May 2023 00:06 (eleven months ago) link
On Wednesday the defense team said its only other witness, a technical expert, was too sick to testify.
That meant the jury of three women and six men has only heard testimony from Carroll’s witnesses and Trump’s legal team has been limited to trying to discredit it.
you get what you (don't) pay for
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 5 May 2023 00:14 (eleven months ago) link
What a train wreck this man’s life is.
― The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 5 May 2023 00:15 (eleven months ago) link
Kinda hard to appeal on inadequate counsel when you yourself hired them
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 5 May 2023 00:18 (eleven months ago) link
kinda wonder what their 'technical expert' was going to add to the mix... maybe an expert on department store dressing rooms or somethihng
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 5 May 2023 00:20 (eleven months ago) link
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2023/05/05/fulton-county-georgia-trump-investigation-electors-immunity/
At least eight of the 16 Georgia Republicans who convened in December 2020 to declare Donald Trump the winner of the presidential contest despite his loss in the state have accepted immunity deals from Atlanta-area prosecutors investigating alleged election interference, according to a lawyer for the electors.Prosecutors with the office of Fulton County District Attorney Fani T. Willis (D) told the eight that they will not be charged with crimes if they testify truthfully in her sprawling investigation into efforts by Trump, his campaign and his allies to overturn Joe Biden’s victory in Georgia, according to a brief filed Friday in Fulton County Superior Court by defense attorney Kimberly Bourroughs Debrow....The news that some — but likely not all — of the electors will not be charged raises new questions about the scope of Willis’s examination of the meeting of electors, all of whom she previously identified as criminal targets in her investigation. The electors who accepted immunity did so without any promise that they would offer incriminating evidence in return, and they all have stated that they remain unified in their innocence and are not aware of any criminal activity among any of the electors, Debrow said.“In telling the truth they continue to say they have done nothing wrong and they are not aware of anyone else doing anything wrong, much less criminal,” said an individual familiar with the investigation who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss the case.
Prosecutors with the office of Fulton County District Attorney Fani T. Willis (D) told the eight that they will not be charged with crimes if they testify truthfully in her sprawling investigation into efforts by Trump, his campaign and his allies to overturn Joe Biden’s victory in Georgia, according to a brief filed Friday in Fulton County Superior Court by defense attorney Kimberly Bourroughs Debrow.
...The news that some — but likely not all — of the electors will not be charged raises new questions about the scope of Willis’s examination of the meeting of electors, all of whom she previously identified as criminal targets in her investigation. The electors who accepted immunity did so without any promise that they would offer incriminating evidence in return, and they all have stated that they remain unified in their innocence and are not aware of any criminal activity among any of the electors, Debrow said.
“In telling the truth they continue to say they have done nothing wrong and they are not aware of anyone else doing anything wrong, much less criminal,” said an individual familiar with the investigation who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss the case.
yes, the GA gop electors who knew their guy lost and tried to overthrow the election results anyway definitely did nothing wrong and are not aware of anyone doing anything wrong. "much less criminal", meaning, no one even made a mistake at the meeting. everything was perfect, the speaking was perfect. the decision to knowingly try to make trump the president even though he clearly lost, not a mistake. the dinner orders were perfect, the amount of appetizers were right on, and everyone remembered the name of everyone else's children and asked how they were doing
― z_tbd, Saturday, 6 May 2023 02:33 (eleven months ago) link
Robbie Kaplan shows the clip of Trump saying stars "historically" grab women, "unfortunately or fortunately"Who would say 'fortunately' to describe" an act of "sexual assault?" [...]"He thinks stars like him can get away with it." https://t.co/v3VeiRY0yH— Adam Klasfeld (@KlasfeldReports) May 8, 2023
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 8 May 2023 14:05 (eleven months ago) link
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 9 May 2023 17:14 (eleven months ago) link
what a strange way of talking he has
― treeship., Tuesday, 9 May 2023 17:27 (eleven months ago) link
That cold, cruel insouciance in the clip. Nixon and Reagan weren't capable of it.
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 9 May 2023 17:27 (eleven months ago) link
Nixon was neurotic, Reagan lacked compassion, but Trump is a full-fledged sociopath.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 9 May 2023 17:29 (eleven months ago) link
i agree, unfortunately or fortunately
― treeship., Tuesday, 9 May 2023 17:29 (eleven months ago) link
Nixon has often been described as amoral, but I agree, he was not an obvious sociopath in the way Trump so clearly is.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 9 May 2023 17:30 (eleven months ago) link
nixon was an angry, bitter person who hated himself.
reagan was the poster child of toxic positivity, that particularly american brand of cruelty rooted in wilful ignorance.
trump is a gangster and an animal.
― treeship., Tuesday, 9 May 2023 17:31 (eleven months ago) link
The verdict sheet in Carroll v. Trump is four pages long. This first page illustrates the various theories under which a jury can find the former president liable of battery under New York's Adult Survivors Act.Doc: https://t.co/6rGyXbcBvI pic.twitter.com/fWGmv1qhUE— Adam Klasfeld (@KlasfeldReports) May 9, 2023
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 9 May 2023 17:35 (eleven months ago) link
The jury has reached a verdict in the civil rape trial brought by E Jean Carroll, who claimed Donald Trump raped her in New York in the 1990s
that was quick
― Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 9 May 2023 19:00 (eleven months ago) link
Judge issues decorum warning for Carroll v. Trump verdict:"No shouting. No jumping up and down. No race for the door."— Adam Klasfeld (@KlasfeldReports) May 9, 2023
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 9 May 2023 19:05 (eleven months ago) link
No shouting holy shit a shred of accountability for the very obviously guilty man
― z_tbd, Tuesday, 9 May 2023 19:07 (eleven months ago) link
Trump more likely than not sexually abused E. Jean Carroll, a federal civil jury unanimously finds. Story soon, @LawCrimeNews— Adam Klasfeld (@KlasfeldReports) May 9, 2023
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 9 May 2023 19:11 (eleven months ago) link
The judy did find that he sexually abused Carroll.
The jury has found that Trump did not rape Carroll.
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 9 May 2023 19:12 (eleven months ago) link
$2 million verdict.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 9 May 2023 19:12 (eleven months ago) link
The jury also finds that Trump defamed Carroll.Total awards: $5 million.— Adam Klasfeld (@KlasfeldReports) May 9, 2023
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 9 May 2023 19:13 (eleven months ago) link
Joe Tacopina got a lot of adulatory press when Trump signed him as his lead defense lawyer. This jury shat all over him. Good on them!
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 9 May 2023 19:15 (eleven months ago) link
and his numbers skyrocket among GOP voters
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Tuesday, 9 May 2023 19:16 (eleven months ago) link
It's hard to put up a good defense when you really have none, and your client basically shrugs the whole thing off.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 9 May 2023 19:16 (eleven months ago) link
"Soros-funded jury" to trend on Twitter in three, two...
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Tuesday, 9 May 2023 19:17 (eleven months ago) link
The late Glenn Frey excepted, no man looked more like autonomous life carved from capicola.
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 9 May 2023 19:17 (eleven months ago) link
Isn't CNN supposedly hosting a townhall with Trump tomorrow?
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 9 May 2023 19:18 (eleven months ago) link
an L for the orange man, may there be many more
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 9 May 2023 19:19 (eleven months ago) link
― treeship., Tuesday, May 9, 2023 12:29 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
This clip is weird as hell, like all of this has been basic reality processed through a glitching AI
― The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 9 May 2023 19:21 (eleven months ago) link
Like Trump himself, Tacopina has been well known to East Coast natives for decades. As I said upthread, if Tacopina's your lawyer, you might get off (he got Meek Mill released), but everybody will know that you did that shit, and probably more.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 9 May 2023 19:21 (eleven months ago) link
Really happy for her. I wonder if this result will encourage others.
― Everybody's gonna get what they got coming (gyac), Tuesday, 9 May 2023 19:27 (eleven months ago) link
yeah, it would be great if he got a judgement like this say, oh, every other week for the rest of his life
― Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 9 May 2023 19:28 (eleven months ago) link
fuck yeah.
― Qeq-hauau-ent-pehui (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 9 May 2023 19:29 (eleven months ago) link
Even beyond the end of his life.
― The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 9 May 2023 19:30 (eleven months ago) link
I think the fact that he didn't show up once, not even on the first day, must've not done him any favors with the jury
― Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 9 May 2023 19:35 (eleven months ago) link
post through it bitch
https://i.imgur.com/21s7f5X.png
― frogbs, Tuesday, 9 May 2023 19:39 (eleven months ago) link
i wonder if any of the other GOP candidates will attempt to use this against him.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 9 May 2023 19:40 (eleven months ago) link
maybe this is the greatest witch hunt of all time. I'm feeling pretty psyched about it right now anyway
― rob, Tuesday, 9 May 2023 19:41 (eleven months ago) link
massive respect to E. Jean Carroll though, I'm particularly glad the jury decided he defamed her
― rob, Tuesday, 9 May 2023 19:42 (eleven months ago) link
doesn't Fake News CNN have a town hall with Trump tonight
― frogbs, Tuesday, 9 May 2023 19:44 (eleven months ago) link
i wonder if any of the other GOP candidates will attempt to use this against him.― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, May 9, 2023 8:40 PM (three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, May 9, 2023 8:40 PM (three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
the won't
massive respect to E. Jean Carroll though, I'm particularly glad the jury decided he defamed her― rob, Tuesday, May 9, 2023 8:42 PM (two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
― rob, Tuesday, May 9, 2023 8:42 PM (two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
absolutely
― ꙮ (map), Tuesday, 9 May 2023 19:45 (eleven months ago) link
It looks like the town hall is tomorrow, assuming it is t cancelled
― Marvel Puzzle Quest is my favorite gasm (DJP), Tuesday, 9 May 2023 19:45 (eleven months ago) link
xp probably true. they will continue to fight among themselves and/or wait for something to happen that rules trump out (passive voice).
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 9 May 2023 19:46 (eleven months ago) link
sure is nice of CNN to reward him with a bunch of free airtime to say whatever he wants, given he spent his entire term shitting on them constantly
― frogbs, Tuesday, 9 May 2023 19:47 (eleven months ago) link
On the other hand, CNN will get exclusive rights to the start of whatever defamation case he sets in motion next.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 9 May 2023 19:51 (eleven months ago) link
well, given that half his Cabinet works for them, why not
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 9 May 2023 19:51 (eleven months ago) link
DeSantis should immediately call out Trump as a sexual predator, so Trump will be forced to respond by insulting his wife or something, please throw a can of kerosene on this upcoming dumpster fire called the GOP presidential nomination
― Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 9 May 2023 19:57 (eleven months ago) link
Drinking to this outcome
― michel goindry (wins), Tuesday, 9 May 2023 19:59 (eleven months ago) link
is DeSantis even running
― frogbs, Tuesday, 9 May 2023 19:59 (eleven months ago) link
wins otm
― Perverted By Linguiça (sleeve), Tuesday, 9 May 2023 19:59 (eleven months ago) link
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EZMFX7aXYAElc7i.jpg
― Perverted By Linguiça (sleeve), Tuesday, 9 May 2023 20:00 (eleven months ago) link
xp TALLAHASSEE, Fla. — Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis severed his connection to his long-standing state political committee and the tens of millions of dollars that it now controls, a step he needs to take ahead of a presidential campaign
― Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 9 May 2023 20:00 (eleven months ago) link
welp RIP DeSantis I guess
― frogbs, Tuesday, 9 May 2023 20:02 (eleven months ago) link
I know DeSantis is a garbage candidate and scared of Trump and his followers, but if he refuses to use this, then he just does not want to win.
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Tuesday, 9 May 2023 20:04 (eleven months ago) link
may he swim eternally in swift rivers of piss
― donald wears yer troosers (doo rag), Tuesday, 9 May 2023 20:07 (eleven months ago) link
he can try but he's too chickenshit to do it I think
going after Trump would mean ignoring the anti-reality shield the GOP has so meticulously built up these past few years and siding with....fact checkers and the media
― frogbs, Tuesday, 9 May 2023 20:09 (eleven months ago) link
Every single opportunity these GOP dummies have had to sever ties with Trump, or sideline Trump, they have instead turned up the volume of their support. At this point I suspect, go figure, they just kind of like him in all his criminal, corrupt glory.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 9 May 2023 20:09 (eleven months ago) link
Geraldo knows which way the wind is blowing, this is not going to just disappear or be forgotten about.
Geraldo on Fox News: "It is so parochial and partisan to suggest that a finding of sexual battery is nothing. This is not nothing." pic.twitter.com/5Rg8eC3I4T— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) May 9, 2023
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Tuesday, 9 May 2023 20:11 (eleven months ago) link
I dunno, the party has become so stupidly, blindly ugly and contrarian that it would not shock me if they pushed to decriminalize sexual assault. And justified it as somehow protecting children.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 9 May 2023 20:13 (eleven months ago) link
Oh PLEASE stop itYou cannot be serious This is a day for vindication not florid catastrophizing
― Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Tuesday, 9 May 2023 20:15 (eleven months ago) link
I don't know what this changes or affects in the long term, but fuck yes this is good. Good for E. Jean Carroll for standing up to him, she never had to say a word about this and risked a fair amount by doing it. She deserves every penny.
Also, in re the long term, there's no way it doesn't hurt him. Whether other Republicans use it against him or not, Democrats and progressive outside groups definitely will. I imagine there'll be an anti-Trump spot just featuring her.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 9 May 2023 20:15 (eleven months ago) link
LL otm
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Tuesday, 9 May 2023 20:16 (eleven months ago) link
they just kind of like him in all his criminal, corrupt glory
more like they can't wait to attend his funeral, where they will conspicuously weep, overpraise him, and throw bouquets of flowers on his grave, then immediately start brawling to see who succeeds him.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 9 May 2023 20:16 (eleven months ago) link
Apparently Trump intends to appeal.. I wonder on what grounds?
― Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 9 May 2023 20:23 (eleven months ago) link
Doesn't matter, this is just learned behavior. Work the system, run out the clock. Maybe he hopes Carroll will die still waiting on his money.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 9 May 2023 20:24 (eleven months ago) link
I really really don't wanna turn into POLITICO hack here.
Let's celebrate the justice rendered to this woman without worrying about the consequences to Trump. Lechera otm.
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 9 May 2023 20:25 (eleven months ago) link
You cannot be seriousThis is a day for vindication not florid catastrophizing
― Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Tuesday, May 9, 2023 4:15 PM
kinda why i've just avoided this thread for a while, even when things are good they are bad here
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Tuesday, 9 May 2023 20:27 (eleven months ago) link
True and I’m here for some bleak celebration of this one victory, feel free to join me. If you can keep your nightmarish hypotheses to yourselves for one day that would be great. Even a couple hours to let it sink in that he was held responsible for his vile behavior by a jury.
― Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Tuesday, 9 May 2023 20:35 (eleven months ago) link
Any day that’s a bad day for DARVO is a good day for me
Otm, and sexual assault is basically already decriminalised in some areas going by conviction rates ffs. This is a good outcome!
― Everybody's gonna get what they got coming (gyac), Tuesday, 9 May 2023 20:36 (eleven months ago) link
From The Guardian: The verdict for the first time legally brands a former US president as a sexual predator.
― Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 9 May 2023 20:36 (eleven months ago) link
Don't think for a second I am not celebrating this. As I will celebrate the next time he loses.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 9 May 2023 20:42 (eleven months ago) link
Oh PLEASE stop itYou cannot be seriousThis is a day for vindication not florid catastrophizing
― Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Tuesday, May 9, 2023 4:15 PM bookmarkflaglink
Otm x 30000
― Qeq-hauau-ent-pehui (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 9 May 2023 20:42 (eleven months ago) link
Before I could put in my disclaimer on FB about "no Eeyore shit" I already had one friend explaining why this is actually bad.
― Qeq-hauau-ent-pehui (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 9 May 2023 20:43 (eleven months ago) link
it'll be on "can't get a fair hearing in NY" or "judge was biased" -- didn't they move for change of venue to staten island?
― J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Tuesday, 9 May 2023 20:46 (eleven months ago) link
very good news
― c u (crüt), Tuesday, 9 May 2023 20:47 (eleven months ago) link
Good for her. Jury service is important. The defamation finding is significant.
It's somewhat of an open issue whether you can get a prior restraint on specific speech that has been found to be defamatory, but you can see he is already being forced to change his wording.
― felicity, Tuesday, 9 May 2023 20:48 (eleven months ago) link
Was gonna ask about that
― michel goindry (wins), Tuesday, 9 May 2023 20:51 (eleven months ago) link
IIUC the window is still open for others to sue him using the law carroll used https://www.governor.ny.gov/news/governor-hochul-signs-adult-survivors-act
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 9 May 2023 20:52 (eleven months ago) link
From The Guardian: _The verdict for the first time legally brands a former US president as a sexual predator._
― michel goindry (wins), Tuesday, 9 May 2023 20:53 (eleven months ago) link
Judge in E. Jean Carroll case advises jurors not to identify themselves after finding Trump liable of sexual abuse and defamation and ordering him to pay $5 million in damages. pic.twitter.com/RMfxH0AmNU— Jamie Gangel (@jamiegangel) May 9, 2023
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 9 May 2023 20:53 (eleven months ago) link
CNN should really cancel that stupid town hall (they never should have hosted to begin with).
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 9 May 2023 20:55 (eleven months ago) link
Maybe CNN should hire Mo Brooks to take Trump's place:
Ex-Rep. Mo Brooks of Alabama - who once pleaded for Donald Trump's endorsement - now says Republicans must repudiate Trump. pic.twitter.com/GAHWILLKdk— Jamie Dupree (@jamiedupree) May 9, 2023
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 9 May 2023 20:56 (eleven months ago) link
Sen John Cornyn (R-TX) to @CBSNews about Donald Trump:“I don’t think he can get elected”— Scott MacFarlane (@MacFarlaneNews) May 9, 2023
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 9 May 2023 20:57 (eleven months ago) link
Hasn’t stopped them before.
Can’t wait for all the ego destroying Ls this mfer is going to experience for the rest of his life.
― This machine bores fascism (PBKR), Tuesday, 9 May 2023 21:00 (eleven months ago) link
Hope his last realization before he dies is that everybody did in fact hate him as much as he secretly feared.
― This machine bores fascism (PBKR), Tuesday, 9 May 2023 21:01 (eleven months ago) link
― Piggy Lepton (La Lechera)
OTMFM throughout, <3 LL
― Perverted By Linguiça (sleeve), Tuesday, 9 May 2023 21:02 (eleven months ago) link
Apparently Trump intends to appeal.. I wonder on what grounds?― Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, May 9, 2023 1:23 PM
― Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, May 9, 2023 1:23 PM
If they don't know, I'm certainly not going to start brainstorming ideas.
― felicity, Tuesday, 9 May 2023 21:08 (eleven months ago) link
There is a part of me that would be down with the town hall if the people asking the questions all asked variations of “how many other women have you sexually assaulted” and “why are you bothering, we all know jail time is inevitably coming from you” etc
I know that won’t happen but it’s nice to dream. I also can’t imagine Trump going through with it at this point; CNN obviously wants it to happen because they’re half-hoping someone does a John Wilkes Booth on live television
― Marvel Puzzle Quest is my favorite gasm (DJP), Tuesday, 9 May 2023 21:08 (eleven months ago) link
If this part of his life is really gonna be defined by a cascade of court cases it’s gratifying that this is the first big verdict
― michel goindry (wins), Tuesday, 9 May 2023 21:09 (eleven months ago) link
Fuck yes.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 9 May 2023 21:09 (eleven months ago) link
every single one of the town hall questions is gonna be about inflation and immigration plus maybe "what do you think is your greatest quality as a father"
― frogbs, Tuesday, 9 May 2023 21:15 (eleven months ago) link
And he will answer by ranting about the verdict and all the other bullshit he has spouted on repeat for years.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 9 May 2023 21:16 (eleven months ago) link
"We'll appeal. We got treated very badly by the Clinton-appointed judge," Trump said.
There's the grounds for appeal lol
― Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 9 May 2023 21:22 (eleven months ago) link
shoulda had Sidney Powell representing u man
― Qeq-hauau-ent-pehui (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 9 May 2023 21:23 (eleven months ago) link
“What’s it like knowing that at any given moment, you could be subpoenaed, indicted, or slapped into leg irons?”
― The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 9 May 2023 21:37 (eleven months ago) link
"like being in Atlantic City"
― Qeq-hauau-ent-pehui (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 9 May 2023 21:39 (eleven months ago) link
meanwhile, over in the Foxiverse, the lead story?
WALLS CLOSING IN: Hunter Biden's former business partner makes last-ditch attempt to avoid prison
― Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 9 May 2023 22:02 (eleven months ago) link
He's always the victim. I hope he burns in hell.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 9 May 2023 23:57 (eleven months ago) link
there you go, making him the victim again!
― Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Wednesday, 10 May 2023 02:11 (eleven months ago) link
Congratulations on your sexual assault judgment grampa.
This is still making me happy hours later.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 10 May 2023 02:26 (eleven months ago) link
The town hall is going to be unhinged.
― treeship., Wednesday, 10 May 2023 11:51 (eleven months ago) link
nah it's gonna be a free campaign rally
The venue for CNN's Trump town hall will be "filled with about 400 voters who are Republicans or Republican-leaning independents."I've never seen a network try this hard to get their own anchor booed live on their own airwaves. https://t.co/rSA525kCvh pic.twitter.com/oN0TpVWkhe— Matthew Gertz (@MattGertz) May 10, 2023
― frogbs, Wednesday, 10 May 2023 17:53 (eleven months ago) link
― treeship., Wednesday, May 10, 2023 6:51 AM (six hours ago)
was trying to figure out what it was about this post that was sticking in my head and realized it is basically another way of saying "will be wild"
Which also reminded me to thank VG (I think?) for posting about the Will Be Wild podcast -- great stuff, thank you for the rec wherever you are!
― Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Wednesday, 10 May 2023 17:55 (eleven months ago) link
CNN was acquired just over a year ago in a major media merger where the acquiring CEO mentioned CNN's politics (at the time rated -2 or "lean left" on the political bias scale) were just too radical for mainstream america. So yeah, this is the "new CNN", just giving voices to underrepresented centrist voices like poor ole DJT.
Also I missed it in real time but thank you to LL, felicity and others for keeping this thread focused amid the nonsense.
― citation needed (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 10 May 2023 19:46 (eleven months ago) link
What a welcome post, Steve Shasta. <3
― felicity, Wednesday, 10 May 2023 20:01 (eleven months ago) link
Yes and these are unhinged.
― treeship., Wednesday, 10 May 2023 20:10 (eleven months ago) link
seems like there was an anti-woke crank on the jury, and even he found in favor of carroll
Remember when I told you that the Carroll verdict shocked me, in part because of @Jose_Pagliery’s reporting on the jury’s “media diet,” especially Juror No. 77’s admitted interest in Tim Pool. Carroll’s team had serious concerns too, based on filings unsealed today. 1/— Lisa Rubin (@lawofruby) May 10, 2023
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 10 May 2023 21:35 (eleven months ago) link
Maybe shows that people can be shaken out of their echo chamber when faced with the plain truth.
― treeship., Wednesday, 10 May 2023 21:38 (eleven months ago) link
One person at least
― Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Wednesday, 10 May 2023 21:39 (eleven months ago) link
he was probably the only reason the finding was sexual assault rather than rape.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 10 May 2023 21:43 (eleven months ago) link
Haopy about reporter Joseph Pagliery, a former student.
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 10 May 2023 21:52 (eleven months ago) link
Jose
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 10 May 2023 21:53 (eleven months ago) link
yeah, Fox News yesterday was 'JURY REJECTS RAPE CHARGE' in bold, before conceding that maybe he was found liable for something after all
― Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 10 May 2023 22:16 (eleven months ago) link
They rejected the rape charge because rape is the one crime where you apparently have to have video of the incident, a recording of the assailant admitting he did it to even approximate anybody believing you, and then you'll still be called a liar anyway.
Even in a civil suit, which requires a much lower burden of proof.
― Qeq-hauau-ent-pehui (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 10 May 2023 22:41 (eleven months ago) link
Unless you're a male victim, then they'll believe you and ridicule you for "being weak and letting someone do this to you", much like Terry Crews got told when he accused a Hollywood Exec of sexually assaulting him.
― Qeq-hauau-ent-pehui (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 10 May 2023 22:44 (eleven months ago) link
So the Town Hall is just an opportunity for Trump to frame his scandals the precise way he wants to backed by wild applause and sycophantic laughter. This is ridiculous.
― treeship., Thursday, 11 May 2023 00:54 (eleven months ago) link
why are you watching
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 11 May 2023 00:56 (eleven months ago) link
I dipped in out of curiosity
― treeship., Thursday, 11 May 2023 00:56 (eleven months ago) link
Jonathan SwanMay 10, 2023, 8:46 p.m. ET16 minutes ago16 minutes agoJonathan Swan
Advisers to Trump are thrilled at how this is going so far for him. They can’t believe he is getting an hour on CNN with an audience that cheers his every line and laughs at his every joke.
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 11 May 2023 01:02 (eleven months ago) link
This is what I observed as well. In this environment he comes across as far more lucid and quick witted than I have seen him in years. If you didn’t pay attention to his words, just his affect, you’d think he seemed reasonable.
― treeship., Thursday, 11 May 2023 01:06 (eleven months ago) link
This is the night he finally became President
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Thursday, 11 May 2023 01:11 (eleven months ago) link
This town hall seems like something everyone will forget about in24 hours. The NY verdict doesn’t. And if it gives him a boost in the primary, great. He will not win the general election, says me!
― tobo73, Thursday, 11 May 2023 01:11 (eleven months ago) link
Between this and the appalling both sidesism of the Jordan Neely killing, I feel like I am in a time warp. Things that seemed definitively not mainstream are now mainstream again.
― treeship., Thursday, 11 May 2023 01:11 (eleven months ago) link
I agree tobo. He can’t win a national election. Most Americans don’t want a rapist as president. That is a low bar but I think we meet it at least…
― treeship., Thursday, 11 May 2023 01:13 (eleven months ago) link
I wish I had your certainty. He’s not going to win, he’ll get decisively fewer votes, but my fear is all the states working very hard to disenfranchise voters and change the rules so he can’t lose.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 11 May 2023 01:37 (eleven months ago) link
One thing that doesn’t make sense to me —
In the final days of his administration, as he promoted “stop the steal,” he seemed to have alienated everyone who even seemed halfway serious. His team consisted of clowns like giuliani and sidney powell. He could hardly find anyone to represent him in the impeachment case.
And yet now it seems plausible that he could pull off the kind of mass disenfranchisement he fantasized about before. I guess it is the GOP doing it at the state level — various loosely affiliated actors — but inspired by his obsession with voting laws.
― treeship., Thursday, 11 May 2023 01:50 (eleven months ago) link
Grab a drink, folx.
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 11 May 2023 01:55 (eleven months ago) link
Done, your lordship
― coolgnoscenti (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 11 May 2023 01:58 (eleven months ago) link
Disenfranchisement is a republican priority overall because it is easier than finding a popular platform that also pushes as much money as possible into the pockets of the richest people.
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Thursday, 11 May 2023 01:59 (eleven months ago) link
I dunno how plausible it is really. I mean he lost pretty badly in 2020 and that was before Jan 6, before the arrest, before the sexual assault judgement, before all the other things we know are coming soon. Trumpy candidates are constantly getting their asses kicked. idk how conditions are gonna get any better for him in the next 18 months.
― frogbs, Thursday, 11 May 2023 01:59 (eleven months ago) link
An inspired act of god should happen here
― omar little, Thursday, 11 May 2023 02:02 (eleven months ago) link
he could still win but prob needs circumstances to break pretty hard his way, he and his movement are weak dems need to go on offense really kick these freaks asses
― lag∞n, Thursday, 11 May 2023 02:04 (eleven months ago) link
I think an economy dip near the election, Biden having a Diane Feinstein moment, China/North Korea rattling their swords especially loudly, etc could be the circumstance that tips it.
― nickn, Thursday, 11 May 2023 02:14 (eleven months ago) link
― omar little
how's your mousse
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 11 May 2023 02:31 (eleven months ago) link
Nothing's a sure thing until election day is over and the votes are all in, but Trump fatigue is a real thing among vaguely Republican-leaning voters. Nothing will shake loose his fanbase voters, so it's a good bet he has a lock on the nomination. We'll all be sick, sick, sick of him before Nov. 2024. I'll just rely on him having worn out his welcome with 60% of the electorate and the campaign will only remind everyone of that very forcefully.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 11 May 2023 02:45 (eleven months ago) link
he could always drop dead at a rally, let's stay positive here
― Perverted By Linguiça (sleeve), Thursday, 11 May 2023 02:46 (eleven months ago) link
i.e. omar otm, sorry I am slow
― Perverted By Linguiça (sleeve), Thursday, 11 May 2023 02:47 (eleven months ago) link
Nothing's a sure thing until election day is over and the votes are all in, but Trump fatigue is a real thing among vaguely Republican-leaning voters.― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, May 10, 2023 7:45 PM
I just hope Biden fatigue doesn't rear its ugly head among vaguely Democratic-leaning voters.
― nickn, Thursday, 11 May 2023 03:42 (eleven months ago) link
this could perhaps be a very low turnout election. in either or both directions
― Qeq-hauau-ent-pehui (Neanderthal), Thursday, 11 May 2023 03:44 (eleven months ago) link
it's too bad DeSantis and Trump don't like each other any more, that they couldn't be on the same train that derails in a fiery ball
― Qeq-hauau-ent-pehui (Neanderthal), Thursday, 11 May 2023 03:45 (eleven months ago) link
there haven't really been low turnout elections in the last 7 years. I think things will get very crazy again this time next year.
― frogbs, Thursday, 11 May 2023 03:48 (eleven months ago) link
2020 was never going to be low turnout because Democrats were amped up to get Trump out of office since basically November of 2016. many of those people will still be motivated af to turn up in 2024. but progressives who are seeing states carrying out attempts at LGBTQ+ erasure, unhindered whatsoever by having a D in the White House, might be disheartened or focus more of their efforts on state-level elections and ballot initiatives than voting for President.
(of course this is spitballing, and it could also continue the same trend and be the largest vote share in history...who knows. I have given up predicting things since 2016)
― Qeq-hauau-ent-pehui (Neanderthal), Thursday, 11 May 2023 03:53 (eleven months ago) link
when Trump is on TV 24/7 again I think they'll be just as amped up, maybe even more so since he's basically promised to make it illegal to vote Democrat
― frogbs, Thursday, 11 May 2023 03:59 (eleven months ago) link
Yall are out of your minds— voting against this pussy-grabbing sentient swastika is quite literally the only reason many people will vote in 2024. I hate him and want him destroyed, and there are millions of people like me.
― Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Thursday, 11 May 2023 11:06 (eleven months ago) link
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 11 May 2023 11:36 (eleven months ago) link
Millions of independents who left him 2018, 2020, and 2022 are not going to run into his arms again, especially when he claims victory for Roe's overruling.
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 11 May 2023 12:03 (eleven months ago) link
Table speaks truth, but it is simultaneously true that there is still a sizable chunk of people for whom voting FOR the pussy-grabbing sentient swastika is a motivator. Owning the libs and whatnot.
The more you tell them not to do a thing, the more they will want to do it. In my dark fantasies I try to come up with ways to convince them that "the woke libs" don't want them to walk off ledges and die horribly.
So. To be clear: Walk off a ledge, MAGANauts, it's the best way to own the woke libs. I would be SO TOTALLY OWNED.
― coolgnoscenti (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 11 May 2023 12:18 (eleven months ago) link
2020 was never going to be low turnout because Democrats were amped up to get Trump out of office since basically November of 2016. many of those people will still be motivated af to turn up in 2024.
would be cool to get young voters interested by not running the eighty-something incumbent whose popularity level never rises above "eh"
― J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Thursday, 11 May 2023 13:35 (eleven months ago) link
― Qeq-hauau-ent-pehui (Neanderthal), Thursday, 11 May 2023 13:38 (eleven months ago) link
sure but we all had that concern in 2020 too and he got the most votes ever so I guess at the end of the day keeping Trump out of office is a pretty strong motivator
― frogbs, Thursday, 11 May 2023 13:42 (eleven months ago) link
imo one of the biggest factors is that people are just really fucking sick of him, sick of him driving the news constantly and putting himself at the center of everything, to the point where even professional sports were all about Trump. that first debate between him and Biden made a lot of people sick to their stomach and it kinda felt like that was the point where his shtick just stopped being entertaining
― frogbs, Thursday, 11 May 2023 13:45 (eleven months ago) link
His only chance of winning would be if he was running against a doddery dithery old fossil who, when he talks, looks like he might not make it to the end of the sentence ... oh, hold on a minute ...
― Maggot Bairn (Tom D.), Thursday, 11 May 2023 13:49 (eleven months ago) link
C'mon man, Biden still shows flashes of wit. And besides, America voted for the obviously sundowning Reagan twice.
― Every post of mine is an expression of eternity (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 11 May 2023 13:56 (eleven months ago) link
are we gonna argue this again
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 11 May 2023 13:57 (eleven months ago) link
did we ever stop?
― The Terroir of Tiny Town (WmC), Thursday, 11 May 2023 14:00 (eleven months ago) link
I'm not saying it's wise to field Biden in 2024 or that he doesn't have doddery moments or even that he's a good president, but I saw this clip earlier this week and he doesn't seem doddery or dithery. This seems a firm and fair a putdown of a reporter regurgitating Republican talking points.
just catching up on this exchange from Biden's news conference yesterday where he grilled a reporter to specify to him what spending cuts McCarthy is actually proposing pic.twitter.com/Ipyd7eOZvD— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) May 10, 2023
― dicbo=v2-ubswizzb&hrt (stevie), Thursday, 11 May 2023 14:00 (eleven months ago) link
I realize this doesn't say much about the Democratic Party, but I genuinely don't know who would be a more viable general election candidate than Biden. It's not like there's someone obvious waiting in the wings who can instantly generate enthusiasm.
― jaymc, Thursday, 11 May 2023 14:05 (eleven months ago) link
This is an amazing idea! And it'll totally work, since we've got something like 50 great candidates to put up instead, all of whom have broad popular and media appeal and better policy ideas than Biden...oh, wait.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 11 May 2023 14:06 (eleven months ago) link
Biden's fine for an 80-year-old man who is slowing down. He will be the nominee. He may die in office; if so, then Kamala Harris will be the next president. I lose no sleep over any of this.
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 11 May 2023 14:06 (eleven months ago) link
Usually you'd say that the candidate who ran a strong second-place primary campaign in the last two elections would be the obvious successor, but he's older than Biden.
― jaymc, Thursday, 11 May 2023 14:09 (eleven months ago) link
No one in the known universe is excited about Joe, but I am also not hearing a compelling alternative
― coolgnoscenti (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 11 May 2023 14:12 (eleven months ago) link
Actually, that's a sharp clip, stevie. There he is at his best.
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 11 May 2023 14:13 (eleven months ago) link
This Hamilton Nolan column is a journalist's fantasy. It's such a fantasy, in fact, that I'm surprised Nolan (a writer I have occasionally thought was pretty smart and on-his-game) didn't end with "and then you just punch him right in his fat face and he dies and you are loved forever, by the American people and especially your dad!" The simple fact is that journalists who are not servile bootlickers Don't Get In The Room With The President (or the ex-president). The real takeaway from last night's shitshow was not the person flinging the shit. It was the people who had their arms and mouths wide open to catch it all. They're not ex-presidents; they're not ex-anything. They live in your neighborhood, and they are *far* more dangerous to this country than he is, because he's not gonna be re-elected. He was elected on a wave of "I hate that bitch, and anyway, how bad could he be?" And then we spent four years, stretching into seven years now, finding out. He will not be re-elected. But his shit-eating cult members are out there. (I'm probably surrounded by more of them as I type these words than I've ever been in my life.) They're not going away.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 11 May 2023 14:37 (eleven months ago) link
I genuinely think he could peel off a few faithful Republican voters in this mode, which is what is necessary to fend off a Trump win, which is necessary for the future of the US, the world. Biden definitely has copious shortcomings but maybe there's a way to engage with those without regurgitating Trump talking points.
― dicbo=v2-ubswizzb&hrt (stevie), Thursday, 11 May 2023 14:53 (eleven months ago) link
Trump lost in 2020 (and lost de facto in 2022) because Biden peeled away enough independents scared of Trump.
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 11 May 2023 14:56 (eleven months ago) link
I can't imagine that a Trump campaign based on "Actually, I won last time" is going to win over any independents either
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Thursday, 11 May 2023 14:59 (eleven months ago) link
necessary for the future of the worldCan’t wait for him to put even more periods on his ending of oil and gas drilling on federal land
― least said, sergio mendes (sic), Thursday, 11 May 2023 15:03 (eleven months ago) link
This is doubtless true but I worry that as the media embraces Trump again in a way they haven't since 2020, so he might be redeemed in some voters' eyes.
― dicbo=v2-ubswizzb&hrt (stevie), Thursday, 11 May 2023 15:03 (eleven months ago) link
Can’t wait for him to put even more periods on his ending of oil and gas drilling on federal land
I'm not saying it's wise to field Biden in 2024 or that he doesn't have doddery moments or even that he's a good president
― dicbo=v2-ubswizzb&hrt (stevie), Thursday, 11 May 2023 15:04 (eleven months ago) link
But also I'm more interested in that as a progressive critique that "LOL he's old"
― dicbo=v2-ubswizzb&hrt (stevie), Thursday, 11 May 2023 15:05 (eleven months ago) link
I'm pretty misanthropic but I don't believe most people have the memories of goldfish.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 11 May 2023 15:11 (eleven months ago) link
the media legitimizing Trump seemes like something that would've been a bigger probem in 2016, when people still stupidly thought there might be something behind the facade. even the "home run" town hall he did yesterday was primarily just him defending himself..."its a witch hunt", "that woman is a liar", "I did nothing wrong", etc. etc....I don't think that's exactly a winning message. you have to at least be able to pretend it's about inflation or "economic anxiety" or whatever. can't even do the freedom angle when your party is constantly in the news for trying to strip them away.
― frogbs, Thursday, 11 May 2023 15:52 (eleven months ago) link
Biden beat Trump because he told him to shut up in the televised debate is how I break it down. If he remembers to do that again, he'll win again
― Toploader on the road, unite and take over (Bananaman Begins), Thursday, 11 May 2023 16:38 (eleven months ago) link
I believe that
― mh, Thursday, 11 May 2023 16:41 (eleven months ago) link
Given how at least 60% of Trump's campaign will be about Hunter Biden, I wouldn't dismiss the idea of Joe punching Trump in a debate
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Thursday, 11 May 2023 16:45 (eleven months ago) link
If Trump faces Biden in 2024, will it be the first time the same candidates have been pitted against each other four years apart?
― Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 11 May 2023 17:02 (eleven months ago) link
Harrison vs. Cleveland
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 11 May 2023 17:07 (eleven months ago) link
Bryan and McKinley rematched in 1900.
Depends on whether you count former presidents, though.
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 11 May 2023 17:08 (eleven months ago) link
Ike v Adlai
― symsymsym, Thursday, 11 May 2023 17:10 (eleven months ago) link
Adams Vs. Jefferson
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Thursday, 11 May 2023 17:12 (eleven months ago) link
the civil suit's outcome will certainly be remembered by what Lindsay Graham calls 'our suburban women problem'
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 11 May 2023 17:19 (eleven months ago) link
In his unguarded moments, Lindsey is quite the truth-teller.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 11 May 2023 17:24 (eleven months ago) link
this is lovely
https://avidly.lareviewofbooks.org/2023/05/10/e-jean-carroll-bought-me-a-dress/
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 11 May 2023 18:03 (eleven months ago) link
oh wow that made me cry
― ꙮ (map), Thursday, 11 May 2023 18:18 (eleven months ago) link
Just in ... meh:
Just in: CNN's town hall with Donald Trump averaged 3.1 million total viewers. The event outrated Fox and MSNBC, as expected, but these are not 2015/16 level numbers for Trump — not even close.— Brian Stelter (@brianstelter) May 11, 2023
― fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Thursday, 11 May 2023 19:04 (eleven months ago) link
That being said, the kids are not alright
In the key 25- to 54-year-old demo, the town hall averaged 703,000, about five times higher than CNN's typical performance at 8pm.
― fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Thursday, 11 May 2023 19:05 (eleven months ago) link
“Low-Ratings Donnie”
― The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 11 May 2023 19:24 (eleven months ago) link
24-54? that isn’t a demographic, that’s nearly three different generations, if not four lmfao
― Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Thursday, 11 May 2023 19:42 (eleven months ago) link
and how many of those were either pointing and laughing, or playing drinking games?
― Perverted By Linguiça (sleeve), Thursday, 11 May 2023 19:43 (eleven months ago) link
I have no idea why they break TV demos the way they do ... I couldn't possibly have less to do with 25-year-olds' viewing habits, and vice versa.
― fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Thursday, 11 May 2023 19:43 (eleven months ago) link
By the way, can you imagine CNN hosting a town hall with Bernie and the audience being filled with socialists who booed Dems and Republicans alike, cheered Bernie when he attacked the media, and applauded every reference to Medicare for All and justice for the Palestinians? https://t.co/S5RuI5I41u— Mehdi Hasan (@mehdirhasan) May 11, 2023
Sounds like compelling TV tbh?
― fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Thursday, 11 May 2023 19:47 (eleven months ago) link
iiuc 25-55 is the group of people who mostly no longer live with parents and have disposable income, but are not yet old enough to be worth advertising drugs to
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 11 May 2023 19:49 (eleven months ago) link
Furthermore, no idea what the major difference is between 18-49 and 25-54
― fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Thursday, 11 May 2023 19:53 (eleven months ago) link
The timing of this 'town hall' - months before anything campaign-related has really begun - makes me think this is just a hasty and cynical attempt by CNN to woo disgruntled FOX viewers over to their new rightist programming... for their ilk, it's like getting Taylor Swift to play a tune on your late night show
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 11 May 2023 19:58 (eleven months ago) link
― fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Thursday, May 11, 2023 3:53 PM bookmarkflaglink
feelings about My Chemical Romance
― Qeq-hauau-ent-pehui (Neanderthal), Thursday, 11 May 2023 20:20 (eleven months ago) link
― Perverted By Linguiça (sleeve), Thursday, 11 May 2023 20:21 (eleven months ago) link
this is just a hasty and cynical attempt by CNN to woo disgruntled FOX viewers over to their new rightist programming... for their ilk, it's like getting Taylor Swift to play a tune on your late night show
He's the problem it's him
― coolgnoscenti (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 11 May 2023 20:26 (eleven months ago) link
all you're ever gonna be is mean
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 11 May 2023 20:28 (eleven months ago) link
Incredible, lovely piece thanks caek. I’ll share it with my daughters.
― assert (matttkkkk), Thursday, 11 May 2023 20:35 (eleven months ago) link
E. Jean Carroll is weighing whether to file a new defamation lawsuit against former President Donald J. Trump in the wake of his diatribe against her during a CNN town hall Wednesday night, she said in an interview. https://t.co/pKjbIAPLM1— Josh Dawsey (@jdawsey1) May 11, 2023
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 11 May 2023 22:59 (eleven months ago) link
I'm hoping she does. Trump probably thinks that once he's been found guilty he's entitled to "get his money's worth", in the manner of an ejected baseball manager who spews profanity-laced invectives back at the ump on his way to the clubhouse.
― henry s, Thursday, 11 May 2023 23:10 (eleven months ago) link
prob thinks it's double jeopardy
― Every post of mine is an expression of eternity (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 11 May 2023 23:19 (eleven months ago) link
He doesn't look very presidential. pic.twitter.com/wy7zHM6Hvs— Don Lewis (@DonLew87) May 16, 2023
― dicbo=v2-ubswizzb&hrt (stevie), Tuesday, 16 May 2023 13:53 (eleven months ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_bnRD7aaok
― gelatinous cubist (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 16 May 2023 14:08 (eleven months ago) link
We're talking about the same state with Rick Scott as a senator, the standard for secret alien-looking politician is pretty high.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 16 May 2023 14:34 (eleven months ago) link
what is his plan? why is he running? is he running?
Did you spot this attack from a pro-DeSantis super last week that went WAY further than almost any 2024 R's have gone?Don't expect to see it again: @shelbytalcott scoops that it drew strong pushback within the PAC. One ally called it a "massive mistake."https://t.co/al2WI9nFxq pic.twitter.com/kBGttMOJCd— Benjy Sarlin (@BenjySarlin) May 16, 2023
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 16 May 2023 18:28 (eleven months ago) link
Plan B for when the big man dies. Or Secretary of Book Burning.
― Every post of mine is an expression of eternity (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 16 May 2023 18:41 (eleven months ago) link
I don't know about the effect on right wing media, but the much-anticipated Durham Report already seems to be fading down the headlines, a day after its release
there were no bombshells, and there was no 'total exoneration' - apparently it stated that Trump should have been investigated, but agents should've vetted their sources better - and that's about it
― Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 16 May 2023 18:59 (eleven months ago) link
Deep State Durham
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Tuesday, 16 May 2023 19:02 (eleven months ago) link
No MAGA will ever believe Trump is dead even if they see a skeleton
― the manwich horror (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 16 May 2023 19:12 (eleven months ago) link
Garrison will still draw that skeleton as virile and muscular.
― henry s, Tuesday, 16 May 2023 19:13 (eleven months ago) link
only the best and most spectacular bones, just amazing really
― Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Tuesday, 16 May 2023 19:14 (eleven months ago) link
My favorite current right-wing conspiracy theory is about the Biden whistleblowers. Supposedly there is a whistleblower, but now that mysterious whistleblower, who has not been named or identified, has vanished, possibly because the deep state covered it up, possibly because he's been murdered, along with a whole bunch of other whistleblowers. Because if they weren't disappeared, one way or the other, then why have they not appeared? Logic.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 16 May 2023 19:26 (eleven months ago) link
Last I saw they have the whistleblower still, and he's got really good stuff, but his main witness is the one who went missing.
― dan selzer, Tuesday, 16 May 2023 19:28 (eleven months ago) link
Fucking deep state.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 16 May 2023 19:31 (eleven months ago) link
he got vince fostered
― Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 16 May 2023 19:32 (eleven months ago) link
Schrödinger's informant.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 16 May 2023 19:33 (eleven months ago) link
Deep fucking state.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 16 May 2023 19:34 (eleven months ago) link
hah my Roganpilled brother brought that up during Mother's Day dinner, as usual I got that feeling you get when people are having a deep conversation about some TV show you've never seen
― frogbs, Tuesday, 16 May 2023 19:43 (eleven months ago) link
Yes, I’m publishing a non-woke men’s lifestyle magazine. Check it out and subscribe today.https://t.co/waUJUvntGt pic.twitter.com/dhHwzoRnW3— Donald Trump Jr. (@DonaldJTrumpJr) May 18, 2023
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 20 May 2023 04:22 (eleven months ago) link
Playfail
― il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Saturday, 20 May 2023 11:56 (eleven months ago) link
Dud, son of Dud.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Saturday, 20 May 2023 18:45 (eleven months ago) link
Why it all sounds so fun over there in Trump legal land (gift link)
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 20 May 2023 22:23 (eleven months ago) link
"Alan Feuer covers extremism and political violence."
― StanM, Sunday, 21 May 2023 00:25 (ten months ago) link
It’s a living, sadly.
“A conflict inside former President Donald J. Trump’s legal team erupted into public view on Saturday as one of his former lawyers went on television to attack one of his current lawyers, who has been the focus of ire from others on the team.”
― The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Sunday, 21 May 2023 00:56 (ten months ago) link
Haha... She's going for it:
The author and columnist E Jean Carroll will go back to court to demand “very substantial” additional damages from Donald Trump for the disparaging remarks he made about her during a televised CNN town hall just a day after he was found liable in a civil case for sexually assaulting her.
An amended lawsuit seeking an additional $10m in compensatory damages – and more in punitive damages – was filed in Manhattan on Monday by lawyers for Carroll...
― Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 23 May 2023 17:44 (ten months ago) link
Raymond C I wonder if any of these lawyers has been paid yet
― Landfill Collins (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 23 May 2023 17:46 (ten months ago) link
If they didn't demand sizeable retainers, then they're even dumber than I thought.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 23 May 2023 17:47 (ten months ago) link
Here's your sizeable retainer
https://fhl-website.s3.amazonaws.com/content/uploads/2020/02/12001030/Levy_Retainer_Schenck-5276_2880x1201-scaled.jpg
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Tuesday, 23 May 2023 17:52 (ten months ago) link
Thank you, you're marvelous.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 23 May 2023 17:52 (ten months ago) link
Trump is now calling DeSantis "Rob" because of a typo in a Daily Mail headline.
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Tuesday, 23 May 2023 18:22 (ten months ago) link
By now these lawyers HAVE to be demanding retainers or they don’t deserve their law licenses
― The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 23 May 2023 18:24 (ten months ago) link
Classic alpha dog move from Trump letting the whole world see how he's whining like a little baby to Merrick Garland for mercy. Meanwhile, Michael Beschloss is feeling like a lil mischief maker.
Can’t possibly guess who might have been the ghostwriter of this letter: pic.twitter.com/1wAHHcxQ42— Michael Beschloss (@BeschlossDC) May 24, 2023
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Wednesday, 24 May 2023 03:25 (ten months ago) link
Click through for lolz
Um just file maybe
― Laurie Anderson’s Singing Bowl Migraine Orchestra (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 24 May 2023 04:07 (ten months ago) link
love that he included his lawyer's cell #
Hilarity ensues - I wonder how many texts that poor sap received last night
― Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 24 May 2023 17:06 (ten months ago) link
that letter also implies that Hunter Biden is being treated fairly, so...
― Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 24 May 2023 17:16 (ten months ago) link
When I read stuff like that, I am reminded (as though I needed another reminder) just how repugnant Trump's personality is on a basic human level.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 24 May 2023 18:35 (ten months ago) link
some of the replies speculate that this is a desperate last ditch effort to head off the document mishandling indictment that's likely dropping soon
― Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 24 May 2023 18:41 (ten months ago) link
That's no joke. He's likely facing charges under the Espionage Act.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 24 May 2023 18:42 (ten months ago) link
Would love for him to face charges from multiple bolts of lightning
― the manwich horror (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 24 May 2023 22:08 (ten months ago) link
Unfortunately the only justice we'll ever actually see will come when his heart finally gives out on his 187th consecutive fast food meal.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 24 May 2023 22:29 (ten months ago) link
Hopefully that will happen when he’s on the toilet
― TY FRANCE HATES TEXAS CONFIRMED (gyac), Wednesday, 24 May 2023 22:30 (ten months ago) link
A la Elvis
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 24 May 2023 22:35 (ten months ago) link
No no, I want to see this onstage at CPAC, I want to see every moment of it
― Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 24 May 2023 22:41 (ten months ago) link
He might be on the toilet at CPAC
― the manwich horror (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 24 May 2023 23:25 (ten months ago) link
And the walls might fall over, like in Jurassic Park.
― henry s, Wednesday, 24 May 2023 23:55 (ten months ago) link
Trump gets really lucky with opponents sometimes
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Thursday, 25 May 2023 00:06 (ten months ago) link
Not with this one he doesn't:
NEW: Trump's lawyers are warning him to get ready for a *federal* indictment, and soonhttps://t.co/zwxprl6mkj— Noah Shachtman (@NoahShachtman) May 25, 2023
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 25 May 2023 20:32 (ten months ago) link
The article more or less says the lawyers want him to "get ready" because it would be stupid to be caught flat-footed and unprepared when the smart alternative is to prepare for it, even if it doesn't happen. Duh. Of course lawyers would give that advice. It's the right advice.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 25 May 2023 20:45 (ten months ago) link
If by 'get ready' they meant 'prepare an array of personal assaults to lob at any potential judge and/or their family members once the hammer drops', I think he's on the case.
― Beautiful Bean Footage Fetishist (Old Lunch), Thursday, 25 May 2023 21:07 (ten months ago) link
"Get ready" in the sense that "I Gotta Feeling" is a song about getting ready.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 25 May 2023 21:24 (ten months ago) link
sir your only chance of beating this is to bring up Hunter Biden some more
― frogbs, Thursday, 25 May 2023 21:28 (ten months ago) link
countdown to a string of posts predicting nothing will happen and these warnings to get ready are just a gambit by Trump to get clicks
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Thursday, 25 May 2023 21:41 (ten months ago) link
― frogbs, Thursday, May 25, 2023 5:28 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
This is cracking me up so much.
― il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Thursday, 25 May 2023 23:10 (ten months ago) link
hunter biden has his father’s love but is fucked up and found real drugs, donald jr. is just fucked up and never found father’s love
― mh, Friday, 26 May 2023 04:34 (ten months ago) link
hey that's unfair its p clear Don Jr has found real drugs too
― serving aunt (stevie), Friday, 26 May 2023 07:28 (ten months ago) link
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/trump-bucks-promise-wealth-maga-loyalty-lose-thousands-rcna84965
John Amann told NBC News he bought $2,200 worth of Trump Bucks and other items over the past year only to discover they were worthless when he tried to cash them in at his local bank. So he’s gone on Twitter to warn other Trump supporters not to fall for this scam.
― papal hotwife (milo z), Tuesday, 30 May 2023 06:13 (ten months ago) link
“The buck stops with you”
― slugbuggy, life has new meaning to me (breastcrawl), Tuesday, 30 May 2023 06:51 (ten months ago) link
But on social media and in promotional videos — many featuring faked celebrity endorsements — the sellers have tapped an audience that believes Trump’s ouster was part of a great conspiracy and that by investing in the Trump Rebate Banking System, or TRB for short, Trump will reward their loyalty by making them rich.
Is there a name for when your manufactured alternate reality collides with actual reality?
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 30 May 2023 12:52 (ten months ago) link
hilariousness
― Marvel Puzzle Quest is my favorite gasm (DJP), Tuesday, 30 May 2023 12:57 (ten months ago) link
at the grocery store yesterday there was a copy of the National Enquirer that had "SEX CREEP TRUMP" in big block letters so I guess they've turned on him too
― frogbs, Tuesday, 30 May 2023 13:16 (ten months ago) link
That’s an endorsement
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Tuesday, 30 May 2023 13:31 (ten months ago) link
BRB starting a "have you been scammed by a Trump scammer, give me some money and I'll get your money back for you, by the way I am JFK" scam
― Every post of mine is an expression of eternity (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 30 May 2023 14:10 (ten months ago) link
"Send us $5000 and we will make sure Donald Trump is included in the updated version of 'We Didn't Start the Fire.'"
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Tuesday, 30 May 2023 14:17 (ten months ago) link
when jfk jr is revealed as the executioner of the traitor(s) ___ ___ at guantánamo bay, all holders of trump bucks will be made whole
― z_tbd, Tuesday, 30 May 2023 14:30 (ten months ago) link
on one hand, I have a family member who used to volunteer in my state's consumer protection bureau and have sympathy for credulous people who get scammed by fly-by-night operators
on the other hand, the Trump faithful have enjoyed being marks for so many years now it's hard to be surprised when they're enthusiastic about promises that have a zero percent chance of panning out. magic beans!
― mh, Tuesday, 30 May 2023 19:26 (ten months ago) link
― ꙮ (map), Tuesday, 30 May 2023 19:29 (ten months ago) link
very dud
― mh, Tuesday, 30 May 2023 19:29 (ten months ago) link
Some people say, Dud.
― il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Tuesday, 30 May 2023 23:57 (ten months ago) link
This is a big stephen miller thing... seems like you'd need to, IDK, maybe pass a constitutional amendment or something, a tall order for his first day back at work
Trump pledges to end birthright citizenship on first day in office
― Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 31 May 2023 00:04 (ten months ago) link
can't stop won't stop
Trump trashes Kayleigh McEnany. pic.twitter.com/aylP807XKF— Ron Filipkowski (@RonFilipkowski) May 31, 2023
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 31 May 2023 01:00 (ten months ago) link
On the birthright citizenship, there's a whole "originalist" argument that the 14th amendment was never meant to apply to the children of undocumented immigrants. It's a contentious theory to put it mildly, but fuck knows how all those Federalist Society creeps would rule on it. I assume the goal of an order like that would be to get it in front of SCOTUS and see how far they're willing to go.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 31 May 2023 01:06 (ten months ago) link
That the citizenship argument advanced during the most conservative Supreme Court of all time tells you something about this bunch of psychos.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Wong_Kim_Ark
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 31 May 2023 01:08 (ten months ago) link
"Milktoast" LOL.
The one thing you can count on when you board the Trump Train is, eventually you will be thrown off.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 31 May 2023 05:24 (ten months ago) link
"We will also make sure that we get a reckoning with respect to the policies that the federal government enacted vis-a-vis COVID-19."— David Weigel (@daveweigel) May 31, 2023
Desantis really did go to Harvard, huh?
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 31 May 2023 14:44 (ten months ago) link
Of course -- he used "with respect to" and "vis-a-vis"
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 31 May 2023 14:51 (ten months ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lj3iNxZ8Dww
― fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Wednesday, 31 May 2023 14:59 (ten months ago) link
Shitter's full https://t.co/dfxIK8sOe1— Jeff Timmer (@jefftimmer) May 31, 2023
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 31 May 2023 15:26 (ten months ago) link
This is just a real nice surprise, a real nice surprise
― fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Wednesday, 31 May 2023 15:29 (ten months ago) link
picture unrelated
― mh, Wednesday, 31 May 2023 16:30 (ten months ago) link
At the very least, he's not paying for a blue checkmark
― fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Wednesday, 31 May 2023 17:32 (ten months ago) link
https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/31/politics/trump-tape-classified-document-iran-milley/index.html
New: Trump acknowledged he retained a classified Pentagon document in an audio tape obtained by Special Counsel Jack Smith — confirming CNN. Our sources indicate this doc was classified at the SECRET level, the kind of doc DOJ would be inclined to charge.— Hugo Lowell (@hugolowell) May 31, 2023
The classification of this document is important — if it was too important to acknowledge and release publicly, DOJ might not be able to use it at trial.As @secretsandlaws discusses often, NatSec prosecutors look for documents that are classified but not *too* important. https://t.co/NQZccUfKpE— Renato Mariotti (@renato_mariotti) May 31, 2023
In other words, he's right on track to be charged in ... 2027 or something.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 31 May 2023 22:26 (ten months ago) link
Seems like the legal woes are really closing in on him pt.94, meanwhile he's about to run for President again
― like the vengaboys with music degrees (Matt #2), Wednesday, 31 May 2023 22:42 (ten months ago) link
they finally got him
― Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 31 May 2023 22:46 (ten months ago) link
Increasingly isolated
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Wednesday, 31 May 2023 22:55 (ten months ago) link
They also had him on tape with a foreign president threatening to withhold aid unless he interfered in the US election. Still remained president after that one, lmao
― treeship., Thursday, 1 June 2023 01:06 (ten months ago) link
This is the most maddening part of the durham report. Like—ok, it seems he didn’t solicit election interference from russia, which is what mueller concluded anyway. (If that investigation was a set up it didn’t work very well). But he still did solicit help from ukraine, using taxpayer money as leverage. It’s like the false accusation gave him the idea to do it for real.
― treeship., Thursday, 1 June 2023 01:10 (ten months ago) link
Yeah, but he was, like, totally impeached for that.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 1 June 2023 01:13 (ten months ago) link
I know but like
― treeship., Thursday, 1 June 2023 01:15 (ten months ago) link
totally impeached
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 1 June 2023 01:28 (ten months ago) link
Relax folks, he’s gonna pull something in the third year in his second term, most likely involving bribing state officials to ratify the proposed constitutional amendment to eliminate term limits, that he is like going to totally get actually punished for.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 1 June 2023 03:01 (ten months ago) link
More like during his third term.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 1 June 2023 03:53 (ten months ago) link
Meantime in the snakepit
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/jun/01/trump-lawyers-resign-criminal-investigation
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 1 June 2023 13:38 (ten months ago) link
"some of the lawyers started to believe the biggest impediment to defending Trump might just be the distrust and interpersonal conflict Trump."
Fixed
― Landfill Collins (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 1 June 2023 14:59 (ten months ago) link
hahaha covering their fair & balanced ass
Notably, Thursday night’s town hall with Trump in the Des Moines suburb of Clive will be pre-taped, giving Fox News the option of editing out egregious lies about the 2020 election in general or Dominion and Smartmatic in particular before its broadcast at 9pm.
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 2 June 2023 00:55 (ten months ago) link
Once they edit out all the insane bullshit, it'll be 10 minutes of actual Trump Q&A, and 45 minutes of Hannity and whoever else is still on board that sinking ship talking about what a genius he is.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Friday, 2 June 2023 01:05 (ten months ago) link
really starting to wish the republicans had followed suit and decided to change the order of states in their primary
― mh, Sunday, 4 June 2023 16:45 (ten months ago) link
The word/byline ratio on this story is 34/6. https://t.co/sRrygfQLuO— Isaac Chotiner (@IChotiner) June 6, 2023
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 6 June 2023 21:28 (ten months ago) link
34:1, technically, but hey, don't let that get in the way of a funny tweet
― fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Tuesday, 6 June 2023 21:32 (ten months ago) link
Mar-a-Lago ketchup reserves are about to go through some things pic.twitter.com/IhaUPKtKQ2— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) June 7, 2023
Congrats to Truth Social for getting this scoop
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Wednesday, 7 June 2023 19:22 (ten months ago) link
I saw someone post an even more aggrieved than usual rant of his right after his team was done meeting with the DOJ, and that was seen by some as confirmation that they came back and told him, "Sorry, dude, you're getting indicted. Again."
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 7 June 2023 20:38 (ten months ago) link
🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨BREAKING per @AndrewFeinberg :MARK MEADOWS has agreed to plead guilty to several lesser federal crimes in exchange for his testimony under a limited grant of immunity. It is believed Trump will be indicted as soon as tomorrow on obstruction & Espionage Act charges.— Spiro’s Ghost (@AntiToxicPeople) June 7, 2023
"As soon as tomorrow," which means between now and never.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 7 June 2023 20:43 (ten months ago) link
didn't you do the exact same thing with the last indictment?
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Wednesday, 7 June 2023 20:50 (ten months ago) link
Holy fuck.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 7 June 2023 20:50 (ten months ago) link
is there really any doubt this will happen soon very soon? obv most are skeptical of what becomes of it all but come on
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 7 June 2023 20:55 (ten months ago) link
The idea of Meadows pleading to lesser crimes and flipping is pretty astonishing. Of course, his lawyer says it's complete bullshit.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 7 June 2023 20:56 (ten months ago) link
note from a british person: if the independent is reporting it as an exclusive, it's probably not true.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 7 June 2023 21:08 (ten months ago) link
Yeah I'm treating everything as rumor mill stuff unless/until it actually happens.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 7 June 2023 21:29 (ten months ago) link
Yeah so far I'm only seeing the independent as a source for those specifics.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 7 June 2023 21:30 (ten months ago) link
Yeah I think it’s happening, maybe not this week or even this month but this is the exact way he was publicly freaking out before the first one
― frogbs, Wednesday, 7 June 2023 21:48 (ten months ago) link
what the hell is a spiro's ghost
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 7 June 2023 21:53 (ten months ago) link
My guess is someone trying to ride the Richard M. Nixon twitter account vibe.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 7 June 2023 21:59 (ten months ago) link
This is a bit more reputable, at least the byline:
NEW: Special Counsel formally told Trump’s lawyers last week that the former president is a target in the Mar-a-Lago docs investigation, per people familiar. @guardian confirming https://t.co/U71nLjZ1x8— Hugo Lowell (@hugolowell) June 7, 2023
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 7 June 2023 22:28 (ten months ago) link
well I guess we finally got him now
― sayonara, capybara (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 7 June 2023 23:21 (ten months ago) link
yes, a target
― Dan S, Wednesday, 7 June 2023 23:30 (ten months ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHW33NjVRMQ
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 7 June 2023 23:33 (ten months ago) link
who else would be the target of the investigation into him stealing documents?
― treeship., Wednesday, 7 June 2023 23:36 (ten months ago) link
Anyone involved in helping him directly/assisting with hiding them further.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 7 June 2023 23:38 (ten months ago) link
this is a good explanation of what it means when they say that he is the target of the investigation
Trump has been informed he is the target of a special counsel investigation over classified docs, sources say.@AshaRangappa_: "This means that they are basically at the end of the investigation, at least the one that is the subject of the target letter."https://t.co/iohAbVemwd pic.twitter.com/Bm0VVMBFwo— ABC News Live (@ABCNewsLive) June 7, 2023
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Wednesday, 7 June 2023 23:40 (ten months ago) link
in other words, this is not just stating an obvious fact that we've known all along, it is a formal step in the process towards an indictment
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Wednesday, 7 June 2023 23:42 (ten months ago) link
ah gotcha. thanks for the clarification.
― treeship., Thursday, 8 June 2023 13:58 (ten months ago) link
Yeah, it's always nice to be reminded that "target" is a formal legal term.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 8 June 2023 14:48 (ten months ago) link
also a store that worships satan
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Thursday, 8 June 2023 15:05 (ten months ago) link
Hmm...
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 8 June 2023 23:33 (ten months ago) link
The coup-attempting former president says he has been indicted, and has to appear at the federal courthouse in Miami on Tuesday. pic.twitter.com/thlCH5wwxi— S.V. Dáte (@svdate) June 8, 2023
Nominate Alfred to be our special correspondent.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 8 June 2023 23:34 (ten months ago) link
Billy Joel shout out at the end
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Thursday, 8 June 2023 23:36 (ten months ago) link
"I AMMMMMM...not handling PRESSURE."
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 8 June 2023 23:40 (ten months ago) link
Logged on just to see when (not if) someone here would make that joke. I knew ILX wouldn't let me down.
― gjoon1, Thursday, 8 June 2023 23:46 (ten months ago) link
I'm a big fan of his infantile deflection, which any parent will appreciate. "I didn't do anything wrong! But even if I did, they did the same thing I did, why aren't they in trouble?! It's not fair!!!!"
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 8 June 2023 23:59 (ten months ago) link
“Documents strewn all over his garage floor where he parks his Corvette” The Diamond Joe archetype is so strong. pic.twitter.com/5n3wlITm6J— southpaw (@nycsouthpaw) June 9, 2023
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Friday, 9 June 2023 00:07 (ten months ago) link
Hmm...does Trump actually drive? Like, beyond golf carts?
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 9 June 2023 00:08 (ten months ago) link
Trump just posted a Truth Social video about his indictment and all I focus on is this. https://t.co/ldZtH6JY0k pic.twitter.com/9syWvcsUyM— Kyle Cheney (@kyledcheney) June 9, 2023
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 9 June 2023 00:17 (ten months ago) link
Hmm deleted
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Friday, 9 June 2023 00:21 (ten months ago) link
Repost
Trump just posted a Truth Social video about his indictment and all I can focus on is this. https://t.co/ldZtH6JY0k pic.twitter.com/ZDcJAIFyRK— Kyle Cheney (@kyledcheney) June 9, 2023
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 9 June 2023 00:22 (ten months ago) link
lol this was my first thought too
pic.twitter.com/UzoowpVsZo— Kevin M. Kruse (@KevinMKruse) June 8, 2023
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Friday, 9 June 2023 00:36 (ten months ago) link
Thread with some interesting context
(thread/tonight) What I'm hearing... Trump is frustrated not just with the indictment but with people in his inner circle who reassured him for months that it was very unlikely to happen... source close to Trump says "too much happy talk for way too long" about what could happen— Robert Costa (@costareports) June 9, 2023
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Friday, 9 June 2023 00:37 (ten months ago) link
“Too much happy talk”
― The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 9 June 2023 00:52 (ten months ago) link
That's the Trump inner circle's biggest failing, the happy talk.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 9 June 2023 00:53 (ten months ago) link
Captain Sensible to thread
― henry s, Friday, 9 June 2023 01:04 (ten months ago) link
tfw you go home with a dude in his early 80s and he's got documents strewn all over the garage floor, like grow up already.
― JoeStork, Friday, 9 June 2023 01:16 (ten months ago) link
Yeah but did you see the Corvette
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Friday, 9 June 2023 01:18 (ten months ago) link
that’s the classic move, he lures you in with the corvette and then he’s got all these boxes
― JoeStork, Friday, 9 June 2023 01:20 (ten months ago) link
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, June 7, 2023 5:08 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 9 June 2023 01:55 (ten months ago) link
Dear Martha Mae,
We have seen some dark days since the onset of this terrible conflict, but none that has so seared our souls ...
We take no pleasure in reporting that @CrackerBarrel has fallen.A once family friendly establishment has caved to the mob. pic.twitter.com/IM0p1NT20S— Texas Family Project (@FamilyProjectTX) June 8, 2023
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Friday, 9 June 2023 02:01 (ten months ago) link
!!Trump lawyer Jim Trusty on @CNN interview just now with @kaitlancollins says charges include:18 USC "1512"!! “We weren’t advised of anyone else being indicted.” "I have a theory."KC: What's your theory?It is subtle but then intimates that Walt Nauta may have flipped. pic.twitter.com/Lhg31aPnW5— Ryan Goodman (@rgoodlaw) June 9, 2023
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 9 June 2023 02:03 (ten months ago) link
Time to go full resistance lib as a treat
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 9 June 2023 02:04 (ten months ago) link
Gonna get Avenatti on the phone er hold on
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 9 June 2023 02:06 (ten months ago) link
But who is Walt Nauta, you ask https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2023/03/walt-nauta-diet-coke-valet-trump-loyal-aide.html
― The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 9 June 2023 02:08 (ten months ago) link
Tipsy that Civil War joke may just be the zeitgeist
Fox News: Trump indictment is an insult to the soldiers who died at Gettysburg. pic.twitter.com/TeFjVPvJhl— alexander nazaryan (@alexnazaryan) June 9, 2023
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 9 June 2023 02:09 (ten months ago) link
lol I actually meant to post it on the politics thread but #onethread
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Friday, 9 June 2023 02:15 (ten months ago) link
LOCK HIM THE FUCK UP— Jeff Tiedrich (@itsJeffTiedrich) June 8, 2023
So happy for this guy
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 9 June 2023 02:16 (ten months ago) link
That picture always makes me think it's Eric Clapton, which is funny.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 9 June 2023 02:20 (ten months ago) link
So if you're Atlanta, working on your own Trump legal shit, do you wait for this to move further along before dropping your own indictment? Do the states coordinate and cooperate for a clean unrolling?
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 9 June 2023 02:43 (ten months ago) link
That picture always makes me think it's Eric Clapton
You got me on my knees, Melania
I'm begging darling please
Darling I don't care do you?
Billy Joel shout out
We didn't start the indictment
― sayonara, capybara (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 9 June 2023 02:46 (ten months ago) link
YES...I keep thinking it's Eric Clapton. So I think, "nah, it's the good Clapton". But he's so cringey you don't wanna think he's the good anything. Alas, this day is for him and he's allowed to be an all-caps guy
― frogbs, Friday, 9 June 2023 02:47 (ten months ago) link
orange man down bad
― lag∞n, Friday, 9 June 2023 03:02 (ten months ago) link
― assert (matttkkkk), Friday, 9 June 2023 03:03 (ten months ago) link
So if you're Atlanta, working on your own Trump legal shit, do you wait for this to move further along before dropping your own indictment? Do the states coordinate and cooperate for a clean unrolling?― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, June 8, 2023 10:43 PM (forty-five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, June 8, 2023 10:43 PM (forty-five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
she's on the record as saying her indictment, if it comes, will be between july 11 and september 1. https://www.nytimes.com/2023/04/24/us/trump-investigation-georgia.html
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 9 June 2023 03:30 (ten months ago) link
absolute loser response from desantis. he doesn't want to win.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 9 June 2023 04:34 (ten months ago) link
https://edition.cnn.com/2023/06/09/politics/trump-tape-didnt-declassify-secret-information/index.html
― serving aunt (stevie), Friday, 9 June 2023 12:20 (ten months ago) link
― c u (crüt), Friday, 9 June 2023 12:30 (ten months ago) link
CNN first reported last week that prosecutors had obtained the audio recording of Trump’s 2021 meeting at his Bedminster, New Jersey, resort, with two people working on the autobiography of Trump’s former chief of staff Mark Meadows as well as aides employed by the former president, including communications specialist Margo Martin.The transcript of the audio recording suggests that Trump is showing the document he’s discussing to those in the room. Several sources have told CNN the recording captures the sound of paper rustling, as if Trump was waving the document around, though is not clear if it was the actual Iran document.“Secret. This is secret information. Look, look at this,” Trump says at one point, according to the transcript. “This was done by the military and given to me.”
The transcript of the audio recording suggests that Trump is showing the document he’s discussing to those in the room. Several sources have told CNN the recording captures the sound of paper rustling, as if Trump was waving the document around, though is not clear if it was the actual Iran document.
“Secret. This is secret information. Look, look at this,” Trump says at one point, according to the transcript. “This was done by the military and given to me.”
Possible candidate for Mount Rushmore of self-pwn.
― il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Friday, 9 June 2023 12:39 (ten months ago) link
Roughly 90 minutes after he found out about his latest travails, Mr. Trump — who was playing disc jockey on his club patio at Mar-a-Lago after his April arraignment — went to the main building at Bedminster for dinner outdoors.
Wearing a red Make America Great Again cap, he again acted as a D.J., according to a person there, using an iPad to play some of his favorites: Elvis, the opera singer Pavarotti and his idol in showmanship, James Brown.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/09/us/politics/trump-indictment-club-bedminster-nj.html
― lag∞n, Friday, 9 June 2023 12:42 (ten months ago) link
Flunky President (It's Bad)
― serving aunt (stevie), Friday, 9 June 2023 12:43 (ten months ago) link
― serving aunt (stevie), Friday, June 9, 2023 8:20 AM (twenty-two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
“As president, I could have declassified, but now I can’t,” Trump says, according to the transcript.
― lag∞n, Friday, 9 June 2023 12:46 (ten months ago) link
How much do we want to bet that Lordy, there are tapes for every single crime committed by this goblin?
― The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 9 June 2023 12:50 (ten months ago) link
This totally wins my case, you know. Except it is like, highly confidential.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 9 June 2023 13:13 (ten months ago) link
DeSantis busy trying to figure out how he can get indicted too. He’s ceding the whole “martyr” space right now.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Friday, 9 June 2023 13:20 (ten months ago) link
I guess he could brag about how many laws he’s signed that have been found unconstitutional, that’s kind of like being persecuted by the Biden Crime Family.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Friday, 9 June 2023 13:21 (ten months ago) link
"This is secret information. Look, look at this." is some Rick James shit. "See, I never just did things just to do them. Come on, what am I gonna do? Just all of a sudden jump up and wave around secret documents? Come on. I got a little more sense than that...Yeah, I remember jumping up and waving around secret documents.”
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 9 June 2023 13:26 (ten months ago) link
Legitimately extraordinary
― omar little, Friday, 9 June 2023 13:42 (ten months ago) link
Donald Trump: Classic or Dud or Extraordinary?
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 9 June 2023 13:49 (ten months ago) link
Look, look at this." is some Rick James shit.
can't touch this
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 9 June 2023 13:54 (ten months ago) link
this sounds like a plotline that was rejected from Arrested Development for being too dumb
― frogbs, Friday, 9 June 2023 13:57 (ten months ago) link
DeSantis busy trying to figure out how he can get indicted too.
it's the party platform afaict
― Laurie Anderson’s Singing Bowl Migraine Orchestra (Hunt3r), Friday, 9 June 2023 13:58 (ten months ago) link
The US establishment hated and feared Trump from the start, largely due to the instability he poses to its hegemony. CIA/FBI concocted a bullshit scandal to sink his campaign and presidency, and now are desperately trying to make him ineligible.Look to Brazil for how it works. pic.twitter.com/5LV5K7f8hg— Glenn Greenwald (@ggreenwald) June 9, 2023
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 9 June 2023 13:59 (ten months ago) link
NEWS - Judge Aileen Cannon, a Trump appointee, initially assigned to oversee his case: SourcesStory w/ @alex_mallin @lcbruggeman https://t.co/FBX2kE3kPd— Katherine Faulders (@KFaulders) June 9, 2023
lmao remember this is the judge who tried to ruin the case from the start
― frogbs, Friday, 9 June 2023 14:01 (ten months ago) link
I wonder why the US establishment could possibly hate this Trump guy so much (xp)
― c u (crüt), Friday, 9 June 2023 14:02 (ten months ago) link
I said I just wanna rule yaGuess that's why I'm so indicted
― Halfway there but for you, Friday, 9 June 2023 14:08 (ten months ago) link
lol glenn is so far gone
― lag∞n, Friday, 9 June 2023 14:13 (ten months ago) link
"US establishment hates Trump because he is a threat to their hegemony" in the running for dumbest take of the century so far.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 9 June 2023 14:14 (ten months ago) link
its kind of true of the gop establishment except they dont hate him they just find him annoying and inconvenient
― lag∞n, Friday, 9 June 2023 14:15 (ten months ago) link
"If the case is being overseen by the same district and magistrate judges, that means the court likely considered the indictment to be 'related' to the search warrant and intentionally assigned it to those judges," former senior Justice Department national security official Brandon Van Grack told ABC News.
― il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Friday, 9 June 2023 14:25 (ten months ago) link
i.e. not that surprising that the case would be assigned to the judge that had already heard preliminary matters
― il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Friday, 9 June 2023 14:26 (ten months ago) link
lol remember
https://i.imgur.com/PdGSZgU.jpg
― frogbs, Friday, 9 June 2023 14:53 (ten months ago) link
I'm so indicted
And I just can't hide it
I'm about to lose control
And I think I like it
― sayonara, capybara (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 9 June 2023 15:03 (ten months ago) link
the assignment of this judge is bizarre. don't know enough how these decisions are made but it is suspicious.
― treeship., Friday, 9 June 2023 15:17 (ten months ago) link
1/Before everyone gets too spun up about reports Judge Cannon has been assigned to the Trump case, a little law. I used to be an appellate chief in the 11th Circuit (where Florida is) and I litigated a few appeals where we asked the court of appeals to order a judge to recuse.— Joyce Alene (@JoyceWhiteVance) June 9, 2023
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 9 June 2023 15:18 (ten months ago) link
Worth noting in that first piece about it that the magistrate judge who was also involved (and was very much not judging like Cannon) is named as well -- as the quoted fellow noted, this all seems like essentially procedure, and almost certainly was factored in to the decision to indict in Florida rather than DC -- which itself removes the prospect of an extended venue fight.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 9 June 2023 15:20 (ten months ago) link
The other thing I'll note is that there's already been quite a few hints and suggestions others are going to be charged as well in this, which would make sense.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 9 June 2023 15:21 (ten months ago) link
Breaking: Jim Trusty and John ROWLEY have RESIGNED from Trump’s team, saying in a joint statement they tendered their resignations this morning. Trusty was just on CNN last night defending Trump and detailing charges against him.— Kaitlan Collins (@kaitlancollins) June 9, 2023
lol byeee
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 9 June 2023 15:41 (ten months ago) link
when u see feds
― lag∞n, Friday, 9 June 2023 15:45 (ten months ago) link
the decision to indict in Florida rather than DC
― Ned Raggett, Friday, June 9, 2023 11:20 AM (twenty-four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
seems like dc would be better from a jury pov
― lag∞n, Friday, 9 June 2023 15:47 (ten months ago) link
Florida has better beaches imo
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 9 June 2023 15:48 (ten months ago) link
little-read Corvette
this sped by too fast
― serving bundt (sic), Friday, 9 June 2023 15:49 (ten months ago) link
my understanding is this was moved to Florida as most of the events in question happened there, which means it will be harder to challenge the venue and slow down the entire process
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Friday, 9 June 2023 15:51 (ten months ago) link
Also worth noting that it was the grand jury IN Florida that signed off on the indictments, so.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 9 June 2023 15:52 (ten months ago) link
Breaking: Trump announces on Truth Social that Todd Blanche will be his criminal defense attorney in the Mar-a-Lago docs case with another firm yet to be named. Jim Trusty and John Rowley are out.— Hugo Lowell (@hugolowell) June 9, 2023
Per ppl familiar: Blanche — also the attorney for Trump adviser and in-house counsel Boris Epshteyn — for several weeks has been seen by Trump advisers as the “head honcho” of the legal team in the docs case.— Hugo Lowell (@hugolowell) June 9, 2023
Let's get honched.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 9 June 2023 15:53 (ten months ago) link
Honchin' on Boris
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Friday, 9 June 2023 15:54 (ten months ago) link
Rowley and Trusty issue joint statement saying they won’t be making media appearances discussing their departure, a clear shot at Tim Parlatore, who appeared on CNN and blamed Boris Epshteyn for why he left.— Maggie Haberman (@maggieNYT) June 9, 2023
Slightly relatedly, though, it was Parlatore who pretty much said Boris Epshteyn as gatekeeper was a big problem for trying to get Trump to understand what he was dealing with. So when you've got the attorney for that guy as your own attorney, well, roffle.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 9 June 2023 15:57 (ten months ago) link
Trump says he has learned his personal aide, Walt Nauta, who came with him to Florida from the White House, has been indicted: pic.twitter.com/qmBbOLc1cG— Meridith McGraw (@meridithmcgraw) June 9, 2023
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Friday, 9 June 2023 16:00 (ten months ago) link
ooh
― assert (matttkkkk), Friday, 9 June 2023 16:01 (ten months ago) link
Ha, was waiting on that.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 9 June 2023 16:04 (ten months ago) link
I think Trump's only recourse is to represent himself.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 9 June 2023 16:04 (ten months ago) link
lol "Thugs"
As one of the general categories of charges against Trump apparently involves conspiracy, by default you have to be conspiring WITH someone, so.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 9 June 2023 16:06 (ten months ago) link
I know it's unseemly to have a favorite Trump brain-bubble, but I do, and it's when he not only refers to himself in the third person but puts his name in quotes. Makes me laugh every time.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Friday, 9 June 2023 16:10 (ten months ago) link
"Thugs from the Department of Injustice" was an underrated PE album.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 9 June 2023 16:11 (ten months ago) link
DOJ are a joke in your town
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Friday, 9 June 2023 16:12 (ten months ago) link
I like how he lauds Nauta as "a member of the US Navy," an obvious flag-wave to all the military supporters. We love our military, right folks? Unless you're Col. Vindman, then not so much.
― Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Friday, 9 June 2023 16:34 (ten months ago) link
what a fabulous batch of news updates to wake up to
― broken breakbeat (sleeve), Friday, 9 June 2023 16:42 (ten months ago) link
Perimeter probe = the opposing side is looking at what you are doing. Buckle up = gear up Rock steady = man up 1/50 = mapping scaling description for terrain and distance (where are assets like bridges)I don't think this is subtle. pic.twitter.com/pzWd3a1yFM— Juliette Kayyem (@juliettekayyem) June 9, 2023
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Friday, 9 June 2023 16:47 (ten months ago) link
still find it hard to believe Trump will suffer any consequences but then again I didn't think he'd actually be on tape admitting to serious crimes
― frogbs, Friday, 9 June 2023 16:51 (ten months ago) link
based on what i know about that guy, for him that's vv subtle. he's one of the fringiest fringe dwellers of the admittedly very fringy nu-GOP
― omar little, Friday, 9 June 2023 16:53 (ten months ago) link
you mean this guy? seems fine to me
@RepClayHiggins pushing an activist for asking tough questions is supposed to be normal? pic.twitter.com/CQx6s3PCQ3— Kristy Fogle PA-C (@kristyfoglePAC) May 17, 2023
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 9 June 2023 16:59 (ten months ago) link
https://www.rawstory.com/rep-clay-higgins/
Sharlet, whose latest book, The Undertow: Scenes from a Slow Civil War, features in-depth reporting on right-wing extremists, warned that the GOP lawmaker appeared to be calling for an insurgency.
"Deep scary: 1/50 k refers to military scale maps & publicly available US Geological Survey maps of areas mostly surrounding military installations," Sharlet said. "This isn’t a metaphor. This isn’t slow civil war. This is a congressman calling for the real thing."
"I think this is scary as hell," he added.
― fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Friday, 9 June 2023 17:06 (ten months ago) link
More from Costa (good and well-sourced reporter, BTW, would tend to take his threads on-board):
(Thread) learning some new things this morning about WHY this all happened and the motivation, especially for the audio from 2021 discussing classified material. In short, it comes down to one person: *Milley.* Trump loathed his coverage in press, in books, per multiple sources…— Robert Costa (@costareports) June 9, 2023
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 9 June 2023 17:17 (ten months ago) link
The question isn't "What is Clay Higgins calling for?" but "Who listens when Clay Higgins opens his stupid fat mouth?" and the answer, I believe, is "nobody."
To paraphrase Stalin, how many divisions does Clay Higgins have?
― but also fuck you (unperson), Friday, 9 June 2023 17:19 (ten months ago) link
Milley Cyrus
Is also (spoiler alert) Hannity Montannity
― sayonara, capybara (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 9 June 2023 17:31 (ten months ago) link
Hiding the files like yeah
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Friday, 9 June 2023 17:37 (ten months ago) link
BREAKING: INDICTMENT UNSEALED @CBSNews https://t.co/UHnXSNF8zJ— Robert Costa (@costareports) June 9, 2023
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Friday, 9 June 2023 17:45 (ten months ago) link
LOL @ PARA 4.
― il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Friday, 9 June 2023 17:48 (ten months ago) link
"the beautiful mind paper boxes"
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 9 June 2023 17:49 (ten months ago) link
lol at pgs. 15-16
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Friday, 9 June 2023 17:49 (ten months ago) link
Mind Paper Boxes is my next band ne
― sayonara, capybara (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 9 June 2023 17:50 (ten months ago) link
*name
"I don't want anybody looking through my boxes."
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 9 June 2023 17:51 (ten months ago) link
Love the little flashbacks to his presidential declarations abt classified info
― omar little, Friday, 9 June 2023 17:55 (ten months ago) link
Handy, really.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 9 June 2023 17:59 (ten months ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/ZXNZ2nt.jpeg
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 9 June 2023 18:00 (ten months ago) link
you know, pluck it out
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 9 June 2023 18:02 (ten months ago) link
If thy classified document offend thee
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 9 June 2023 18:03 (ten months ago) link
Said to his lawyers: “Wouldn’t it be better if we just told them we don’t have anything here?”
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 9 June 2023 18:06 (ten months ago) link
Is it bad? Good?
― mh, Friday, 9 June 2023 18:09 (ten months ago) link
Sounds like Jack Smith is due to give general media remarks in a little under an hour.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 9 June 2023 18:10 (ten months ago) link
over/under on how long they've had this sitting in drafts:
Bringing this back in light of recent news:Get a limited-edition But Her Emails hat and support @onwardtogether groups working to strengthen our democracy.https://t.co/4TiUxjmRNY pic.twitter.com/uSofeNjBxy— Hillary Clinton (@HillaryClinton) June 9, 2023
― fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Friday, 9 June 2023 18:17 (ten months ago) link
This isn't worse than expected; if you think it is, then your imagination has been asleep since June 2015. This is what this man was always capable of, too stupid to hide his crimes and too confident about never being caught.
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 9 June 2023 18:19 (ten months ago) link
So indicted for 38 counts, not 7 as was previously reported. Oof.
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Friday, 9 June 2023 18:24 (ten months ago) link
I mean this guy's reputation is that no matter how dumb he appears to be he at least knows how to play "the system", be it show business, political media, the law, tax codes, etc., and yet here he is declaring that he's committed a federal crime, providing proof of said crime, and acknowledging that he knows it's a crime, all while he's being recorded...may be the only time I say this but I really didn't think Donald Trump was that stupid
― frogbs, Friday, 9 June 2023 18:25 (ten months ago) link
lmao when matt levine thinks you've done crime in an amusing way, you know you're in trouble
"is you taking notes on a criminal conspiracy" etc., but it is kind of great that every time trump sort of hinted to his lawyers that they should do crimes, they took copious notes like "i took this to be a hint that we should do crimes," and handed them right over.— Matt Levine (@matt_levine) June 9, 2023
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 9 June 2023 18:26 (ten months ago) link
Don't forget he at one time was saying all the documents were planted
― omar little, Friday, 9 June 2023 18:27 (ten months ago) link
At least this halfwit gets it:
The problem for Trump -- you can "but Hillary" and "but Biden" all you want, but they have Trump on tape admitting he is showing classified documents that have not been declassified and he is showing them to people without proper clearance.— Erick Erickson (@EWErickson) June 9, 2023
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 9 June 2023 18:27 (ten months ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/eq0BnoG.png
"beautiful mind paper boxes" is such an amazing phrase
― frogbs, Friday, 9 June 2023 18:27 (ten months ago) link
you know how everyone searches the Fed transcripts for [laughter] when they come out. that but for federal indictments pic.twitter.com/PBSqD3AM0m— modest proposal (@modestproposal1) June 9, 2023
he has the worst attorneys
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 9 June 2023 18:28 (ten months ago) link
If only Guided By Voices could write a melody for it
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 9 June 2023 18:28 (ten months ago) link
his florida judge might delay it, or his heart might explode, but ... is this guy going to jail?
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 9 June 2023 18:30 (ten months ago) link
Oh, mesh gear foxPull out another paper trick from your beautiful mind box
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Friday, 9 June 2023 18:31 (ten months ago) link
"Now we have a problem" is a good name for a politics thread. Or, you know, Trump thread.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 9 June 2023 18:32 (ten months ago) link
jesus christ
https://i.imgur.com/c3GitK1.png
idk what even to say at this point, I'm starting to believe he actually may go to jail
― frogbs, Friday, 9 June 2023 18:35 (ten months ago) link
Leaning towards dud these days.
― CeeLô Borges (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 9 June 2023 18:36 (ten months ago) link
Wasn't there a quote from fucking Kid Rock about being shown maps and thinking "Should I be seeing this?"
― but also fuck you (unperson), Friday, 9 June 2023 18:41 (ten months ago) link
I thought dud up until the indictment was unsealed. now he's definitely classic
― c u (crüt), Friday, 9 June 2023 18:41 (ten months ago) link
― il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Friday, June 9, 2023 8:39 AM (six hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
― il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Friday, 9 June 2023 18:43 (ten months ago) link
see what happens when Pat Robertson stops praying for you for one day
― frogbs, Friday, 9 June 2023 18:44 (ten months ago) link
Hey, buddy, want to COMMIT SOME CRIMES together? I’m going to show you some stuff that’s COMPLETELY ILLEGAL.
― papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 9 June 2023 18:45 (ten months ago) link
Special Counsel Jack Smith's indictment against former President Trump includes photos of documents boxes stored in various places at Mar-a-Lago. pic.twitter.com/Mz5zJvJjCM— Arden Farhi (@ArdenFarhi) June 9, 2023
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 9 June 2023 18:45 (ten months ago) link
on a stage and next to a toilet bowl
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 9 June 2023 18:46 (ten months ago) link
Well, sure, you need something to read while you're on the can.
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 9 June 2023 18:51 (ten months ago) link
"Donald Trump had illegally kept documents concerning U.S. nuclear programs and its potential vulnerabilities to military attack, the 49-page indictment showed."
seems significant that these docs were not just some crank's theory about how to invade iran.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 9 June 2023 18:53 (ten months ago) link
Smith's remarks to be streamed here (and elsewhere I'm sure)
https://www.justice.gov/live
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 9 June 2023 18:53 (ten months ago) link
One of a zillion problems for Trump here is that the absolute true believer conspiracy nuts aside, all of the actions described and/or caught on tape align perfectly with the Trump we all know so well. Like, you know exactly what the little self-satisfied smirk on his face was when he was saying these things, and everything described is entirely in character. Even the stuff that seems sort of generically unbelievable — "Nobody would do that!" — becomes completely believable in the context of it being Trump.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Friday, 9 June 2023 18:55 (ten months ago) link
Nauta seems like he's fucked and there is no way he is going to go down and not say, "Trump told me to do this."
― il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Friday, 9 June 2023 18:55 (ten months ago) link
I could totally see Waltine taking however much heat is needed for Dear Leader.
― The Terroir of Tiny Town (WmC), Friday, 9 June 2023 18:58 (ten months ago) link
I hope that Jack Smith has a voice to go with his grand inquisitor looks.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 9 June 2023 19:03 (ten months ago) link
as strong and supple as Mueller's.
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 9 June 2023 19:04 (ten months ago) link
I cannot even fathom what kind of legal defense they're gonna try here
― frogbs, Friday, 9 June 2023 19:04 (ten months ago) link
It may well involve a white Bronco.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Friday, 9 June 2023 19:05 (ten months ago) link
do you know who his parents are?
― reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 9 June 2023 19:06 (ten months ago) link
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 9 June 2023 19:09 (ten months ago) link
Straightforward enough statement from Smith, about all I'd expect.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 9 June 2023 19:10 (ten months ago) link
The legal defense will be " I am innocent, Jack Smith is a pedophile, when you are famous they just let you do it, fake news, Benghazi, Biden, Hunter."
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 9 June 2023 19:11 (ten months ago) link
I cannot even fathom what kind of legal defense they're gonna try here― frogbs, Friday, June 9, 2023 3:04 PM (seven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
― frogbs, Friday, June 9, 2023 3:04 PM (seven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
delay
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 9 June 2023 19:13 (ten months ago) link
whatever his defense is, i assume it will involve a comedic blundering into another wholly unnecessary but predictable crime.
― omar little, Friday, 9 June 2023 19:13 (ten months ago) link
as trump used to tell the families of dead troops, 'he knew what he signed up for'
― mookieproof, Friday, 9 June 2023 19:14 (ten months ago) link
I mean look the Stormy Daniels stuff is, J6 I think would be kind of hard to prosecute for, Georgia could even be a slap on the wrist given the friendly judges he's sure to get, but this here feels like the one thing even Trump may not be able to get away with, and it's such an open and shut case too
― frogbs, Friday, 9 June 2023 19:18 (ten months ago) link
The responses from loyalists seem to be primarily (1) it's not a crime, as President he could and did declassify all this stuff; (2) the transcript of the tapes is inaccurate, taken out of context, misleading, etc.; and (3) even if it was a crime, Hillary and Joe did so much worse.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 9 June 2023 19:19 (ten months ago) link
I think I read somewhere that the nature of the crime and the DOJ means that delay tactics aren't as effective as they are in a traditional criminal trial. This was in the New Yorker earlier today:
This case is going to have severe timing issues. The Trump people will want to drag it out to put off any punishment and because they hope he can be President again before any punishment comes. And the government may want this to wrap up before the campaign heats up. I have heard people say that federal prosecutions are harder to delay. Is that accurate?Yes, federal prosecutions are harder to delay. The federal rules are a little more pro-government when it comes to the timing of proceedings than is true in most state courts. But there are two wild cards. The first is the judge. The judge still has a fair amount of say over the scheduling and calendaring of pretrial matters. Wild card No. 2 is how complex the pretrial proceedings are. And, again, that is something the government will have a fair amount of control over based on how it chooses to charge the case. Are the charges going to invite a ton of pretrial wrangling over expert witnesses and CIPA and the spectre of graymail? If you are the government and timing is a priority to you, that too will shape some of your decision-making to try to reduce the possibility of time-consuming, contentious pretrial fights.
Yes, federal prosecutions are harder to delay. The federal rules are a little more pro-government when it comes to the timing of proceedings than is true in most state courts. But there are two wild cards. The first is the judge. The judge still has a fair amount of say over the scheduling and calendaring of pretrial matters. Wild card No. 2 is how complex the pretrial proceedings are. And, again, that is something the government will have a fair amount of control over based on how it chooses to charge the case. Are the charges going to invite a ton of pretrial wrangling over expert witnesses and CIPA and the spectre of graymail? If you are the government and timing is a priority to you, that too will shape some of your decision-making to try to reduce the possibility of time-consuming, contentious pretrial fights.
Whole interview is pretty good at laying out the nuts, bolts and potential bullshit: https://www.newyorker.com/news/q-and-a/the-legal-dynamics-of-trumps-second-indictment
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 9 June 2023 19:20 (ten months ago) link
on the other hand this guy did fire the FBI director who was investigating him and publicly said exactly why he was doing it and nothing happened so who knows what's gonna happen here
― frogbs, Friday, 9 June 2023 19:21 (ten months ago) link
beautiful mind, paper boxes, can't lose
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Friday, 9 June 2023 19:23 (ten months ago) link
So, what stands out to me is the number of Espionage Act charges: 31! I was expecting 10-15 or so, but 31 shows that DOJ will be pursuing a VERY aggressive strategy in this case. That has some strengths, and some drawbacks. Here's what it tells me, in no particular order.— Secrets and Laws (@secretsandlaws) June 9, 2023
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 9 June 2023 19:24 (ten months ago) link
xxpost what do you mean nothing happened? The Greatest Witch Hunt in History happened.
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Friday, 9 June 2023 19:26 (ten months ago) link
chotiner interview good as usual, but i think it was done before we knew who the judge is (which is not good news)
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 9 June 2023 19:27 (ten months ago) link
Hard to imagine there’s a lawyer on Earth who can get him to stop posting at this point. pic.twitter.com/npBOWtGp2q— Ben Collins (@oneunderscore__) June 9, 2023
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Friday, 9 June 2023 19:40 (ten months ago) link
Who is he talking to with these Truth Social assplosions?
― but also fuck you (unperson), Friday, 9 June 2023 19:47 (ten months ago) link
"His lawyers house in Boston" what
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 9 June 2023 19:50 (ten months ago) link
lol did Biden move his boxes AFTER being asked to return specific classified documents? I don't think so.
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Friday, 9 June 2023 19:54 (ten months ago) link
7. Nauta is f'd. Unless he's hoping Cannon or a Trump election will save him, I'd start plea talks real quick if I were him.— Secrets and Laws (@secretsandlaws) June 9, 2023
― il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Friday, 9 June 2023 20:02 (ten months ago) link
Doesn’t seem great when your indictment repeatedly quotes your own lawyers
― frogbs, Friday, 9 June 2023 20:03 (ten months ago) link
Also, he should stay away from hospital windows and Saudi Embassies.
― il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Friday, 9 June 2023 20:03 (ten months ago) link
xp to self
Ain’t no wriggling outta THIS jam.
― The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 9 June 2023 20:15 (ten months ago) link
And Boris Johnson's just resigned as an MP so it's been aa bad day for lying narcissistic scumbags all round.
― Renaissance of the Celtic Trumpet (Tom D.), Friday, 9 June 2023 20:39 (ten months ago) link
"If they knew, this would be a felony," said the former President, waving around an original Constitution from the Smithsonian and speaking directly into a recorder. "But they'll never know. They'll never know because I'm too smart."— Sen. Lemon Gogurt (I - Podcastia) (@Ugarles) June 9, 2023
― papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 9 June 2023 20:43 (ten months ago) link
Am aware of many political types today citing some TV dialogue about not taking notes on a criminal conspiracy. Gratified, yet we wrote our Baltimore players as at least half-smart, and not the easiest prey for common vanities and insecurities. Trump is a pompous, fatuous fool.— David Simon (@AoDespair) June 9, 2023
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Friday, 9 June 2023 20:44 (ten months ago) link
If your defense in doing crimes is "everybody does bunches of crimes," you are losing.
When I got pulled over for speeding, the police were strangely not swayed by an argument that ran "other people were speeding just as much, if not more."
― sayonara, capybara (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 9 June 2023 20:56 (ten months ago) link
🐦[Hard to imagine there’s a lawyer on Earth who can get him to stop posting at this point. pic.twitter.com/npBOWtGp2q🕸— Ben Collins (@oneunderscore__) June 9, 2023🕸]🐦
― TY FRANCE HATES TEXAS CONFIRMED (gyac), Friday, 9 June 2023 20:59 (ten months ago) link
i’m still loling at joe biden having documents all over his garage floor
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 9 June 2023 21:07 (ten months ago) link
Between this and Baby Gronk everything has felt like an I Think You Should Leave sketch lately
― frogbs, Friday, 9 June 2023 21:10 (ten months ago) link
which we know because Biden usually leaves his garage door open, like a bad HOA member
― felicity, Friday, 9 June 2023 21:11 (ten months ago) link
Using some missile defense specs to wipe off his hands after changing his oil in the Corvette.
― il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Friday, 9 June 2023 21:12 (ten months ago) link
I hear he drag races for nuke specs
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Friday, 9 June 2023 21:15 (ten months ago) link
I think we’ll find that a bunch of people are jailed for looking at the classified documents (i.e. espionage) while Asshole receives a stern rebuke and a five figure fine.
― assert (matttkkkk), Friday, 9 June 2023 21:27 (ten months ago) link
can we not
― broken breakbeat (sleeve), Friday, 9 June 2023 21:45 (ten months ago) link
this is a day of joy
Trump Attorney 3 is getting suspended if not disbarred.
― il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Friday, 9 June 2023 22:12 (ten months ago) link
Goddam Deep State strikes again.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 9 June 2023 22:13 (ten months ago) link
the recounting of movement of the boxes reads like a three-card monte recap (requested 80, moved 12, took 25, missing 72, deliver 30 etc)
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 9 June 2023 22:29 (ten months ago) link
seems unwise https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/110516652745413008
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 9 June 2023 23:10 (ten months ago) link
Nah, seems kosher to me. The more the merrier, it'll be wild. Soto, you should go!
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 9 June 2023 23:13 (ten months ago) link
can't we just C&P those posts? no way in hell am I clicking on that.
― broken breakbeat (sleeve), Friday, 9 June 2023 23:25 (ten months ago) link
I think what I learned today
Is
When you do crime remember to make a recording
So you know how to do crime next time
― the manwich horror (Neanderthal), Friday, 9 June 2023 23:40 (ten months ago) link
That's nothing! I'm calling on EVERY REPUBLICAN TO COMMIT SUICIDE in solidarity with Trump!Otherwise, we don't have a country, folks. https://t.co/3wzw9rjCqa— Ann Coulter (@AnnCoulter) June 9, 2023
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Saturday, 10 June 2023 00:33 (ten months ago) link
that's the kind of thing that gets keith olbermann's motors running
― mookieproof, Saturday, 10 June 2023 00:40 (ten months ago) link
damn, otm
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Saturday, 10 June 2023 00:43 (ten months ago) link
Twelve-D chess, man
Poking through the even more extreme websites, the story is that Trump wanted to get indicted SO THAT he could reveal he’s been president this whole time and indict Biden.— Raffi Melkonian (@RMFifthCircuit) June 10, 2023
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 10 June 2023 15:49 (ten months ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPumsKqIeBA
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 10 June 2023 15:58 (ten months ago) link
Trump supporters are organizing on fringe social media platforms, finding the names of fed prosecutors & compiling information about their "children" and families"We need to start killing" one MAGA cultist saidAnother: "(their) children are fair game"https://t.co/Rf1kZGtIHa— LeGate🤠 (@williamlegate) June 9, 2023
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 10 June 2023 16:04 (ten months ago) link
Twelve-D chess, man🐦[Poking through the even more extreme websites, the story is that Trump wanted to get indicted SO THAT he could reveal he’s been president this whole time and indict Biden.— Raffi Melkonian (@RMFifthCircuit) June 10, 2023🕸]🐦
― Crabber B. Munson (Boring, Maryland), Saturday, 10 June 2023 16:06 (ten months ago) link
How sad your life must be if you contemplate murder for Donald Fucking Trump.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Saturday, 10 June 2023 16:08 (ten months ago) link
I guess we’ll see?
I just don’t know what else to say at this point.
― The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Saturday, 10 June 2023 16:09 (ten months ago) link
these qanon types still telling themselves stories are really something
― lag∞n, Saturday, 10 June 2023 16:10 (ten months ago) link
these people know their correspondence can easily be tracked, right
― the manwich horror (Neanderthal), Saturday, 10 June 2023 16:10 (ten months ago) link
like half these dorks said this shit before inauguration and a bunch of them got hauled in lol
― the manwich horror (Neanderthal), Saturday, 10 June 2023 16:11 (ten months ago) link
Yeah I read it as mostly just msg board talk tbh. We'll find out.
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 10 June 2023 16:13 (ten months ago) link
It won’t surprise me if “the resistance” is like five random dudes.
These people are thick and deluded but (and maybe this is silly to think) after 1/6 the vibe among law enforcement is probably “fuck around and find out” on the streets, not just months later in court.
― The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Saturday, 10 June 2023 16:17 (ten months ago) link
one thing is that the jan 6 prosecutions have really spooked them, now whenever you see a call for violence theres people immediately accusing the person of being a fed, which doesnt mean no ones going to try anything just that the public rabble rousing organizing that led to jan 6 is in a tough spot
― lag∞n, Saturday, 10 June 2023 16:19 (ten months ago) link
I’ve been thinking that the vigorous prosecution of Proud Boys and Oath Keepers is also having the positive effect of ramping down on organized political violence that could be causing mayhem no and in the run up to the elections.
― Crabber B. Munson (Boring, Maryland), Saturday, 10 June 2023 16:20 (ten months ago) link
Or what you said lagoon.
― Crabber B. Munson (Boring, Maryland), Saturday, 10 June 2023 16:21 (ten months ago) link
our democracy is still limping along yay lol
― lag∞n, Saturday, 10 June 2023 16:46 (ten months ago) link
Not dead yet
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Saturday, 10 June 2023 17:05 (ten months ago) link
But it's gettin' there
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 10 June 2023 17:10 (ten months ago) link
i wonder how many different hats are in don’s rotation
― mookieproof, Saturday, 10 June 2023 17:32 (ten months ago) link
In case you get eye strain and just wanted to listen to the indictment read
https://prosecuting-donald-trump.simplecast.com/episodes/the-full-indictment-read-by-ali-velshi
― The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 12 June 2023 11:50 (ten months ago) link
Good morning from Miami!
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 12 June 2023 12:03 (ten months ago) link
Trump as hidden mahdi― Crabber B. Munson (Boring, Maryland), Saturday, 10 June 2023 16:06 (two days ago) link
This is one of the weirder things about q anon. It’s less a conspiracy then like a theory of prophecies and revelations.
― treeship., Monday, 12 June 2023 12:12 (ten months ago) link
so like the Old Testament then
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 12 June 2023 12:13 (ten months ago) link
Exactly. They compare Trump to the Biblical King Cyrus.
― treeship., Monday, 12 June 2023 12:14 (ten months ago) link
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jan/11/donald-trump-evangelical-christians-cyrus-king
― treeship., Monday, 12 June 2023 12:15 (ten months ago) link
Holy grift
Trump-Cyrus “prayer coins” – the king is in the background, a brooding profile of Trump is in the foreground – for $45 a coin.
― Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Monday, 12 June 2023 12:57 (ten months ago) link
need that prayer coin baby
― lag∞n, Monday, 12 June 2023 13:06 (ten months ago) link
Hard working needler Chotiner on Cannon:
https://www.newyorker.com/news/q-and-a/will-the-judge-in-trumps-case-recuse-herself-or-be-forced-to
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 12 June 2023 14:00 (ten months ago) link
Miami-Dade County's former mayor (who did a fine job during COVID) and my current House rep has been busy:
🚨Yes, I played golf with President Trump this week.We need Donald Trump back in the White House because this country cannot afford another 4 years of Joe Biden! pic.twitter.com/VG5p9KJdRp— Carlos A. Gimenez (@CarlosGimenezFL) June 12, 2023
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 12 June 2023 14:09 (ten months ago) link
Yes, in these challenging times, we need a guy who plays a lot of golf back in the White House.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 12 June 2023 14:16 (ten months ago) link
that new yorker piece is a clear summary, ty for link xp
― rick james, critical moralist (Hunt3r), Monday, 12 June 2023 14:19 (ten months ago) link
In these challenging times, why isn’t the White House a really dope-ass golf club?
― The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 12 June 2023 14:26 (ten months ago) link
make america golf again
― serving bundt (sic), Monday, 12 June 2023 15:45 (ten months ago) link
Putter emails
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Monday, 12 June 2023 15:49 (ten months ago) link
hey remember how spies from foreign countries kept getting arrested at Mar-a-Lago and it just ended up being one of those weird stories nobody could make heads or tails of
― frogbs, Monday, 12 June 2023 15:50 (ten months ago) link
weird coincidence
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Monday, 12 June 2023 15:51 (ten months ago) link
apologies if this has been addressed in thread, but is there a reason he wanted to keep these boxes so badly? was there some benefit or was it just a bilbo baggins "why shouldn't i keep it?" situation?
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 12 June 2023 16:09 (ten months ago) link
Forget it, ums, it's Trumptown.
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 12 June 2023 16:12 (ten months ago) link
idk it's still kind of a mystery, given his strange deferential relationship with Putin and Kim Jong Un plus the very shady looking deals Kushner got it wouldn't surprise me if he's just straight up selling government secrets. but also Trump is the one guy who might just take this stuff because he thought it was cool, or maybe out of bitterness, I know for most people it wouldn't matter but in this case I think it will
― frogbs, Monday, 12 June 2023 16:16 (ten months ago) link
afaict he did indeed go full Gollum.
“It's not theirs; it's mine,” several advisers say Mr. Trump told them.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 12 June 2023 16:16 (ten months ago) link
Occam's razor in full effect. Why did Trump take them? Because he is a selfish, shortsighted, self-obsessed moron.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 12 June 2023 16:17 (ten months ago) link
what's really funny is Trump was reported as frustrating all the records people when he was in office, because any time he's finished with anything, it was reported he'd habitually crumple up whatever it was he was reading and throw it in the trash. so someone's job was to fish things out and uncrumple them because there are rules about presidential record retention
presumably he needed as many documents as possible because he's wrecking them after waving them around and bragging
― mh, Monday, 12 June 2023 16:25 (ten months ago) link
The example in the indictment was Trump using the documents to prove that deep state people (i.e. Gen. Milley) were lying about him in the press.
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Monday, 12 June 2023 16:31 (ten months ago) link
If he has something he thinks he can use against his enemies, he's going to try to hang onto it
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Monday, 12 June 2023 16:32 (ten months ago) link
― frogbs, Monday, June 12, 2023 10:50 AM (forty-four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Monday, June 12, 2023 10:51 AM (forty-three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
That’s so crazy! If only there were a reason we could discern from subsequent events
― The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 12 June 2023 16:36 (ten months ago) link
its pretty funny how much he liked the secret docs considering hes not really a details guy, doesnt seem like he really wanted to do anything with them maybe just memorabilia to him
― lag∞n, Monday, 12 June 2023 16:49 (ten months ago) link
waving them around to impress people, its very silly, everyone knows you were president you dont really need props
― lag∞n, Monday, 12 June 2023 16:50 (ten months ago) link
tho tbf i could see how they would help sell the bit
He's probably a bit like that dictator in the Carolyn Forche poem who shows off the ears of enemies to his visitors.
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Monday, 12 June 2023 16:51 (ten months ago) link
― lag∞n, Monday, June 12, 2023 12:49 PM (eight minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
― lag∞n, Monday, June 12, 2023 12:50 PM (seven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
otm, it's not any deeper than it helps feed his massive narcissism as a totem that he was the most important person on the planet for four years.
― il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Monday, 12 June 2023 17:07 (ten months ago) link
this is just a divide that is bigger than the biggest divide you can think of. so divide. way divide. how? why?
"Eighty percent of likely Republican primary voters in a new poll think former President Trump should still be able to get back to the Oval Office even if he’s convicted in the classified documents case."
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4044648-80-percent-of-likely-gop-voters-think-trump-should-still-be-able-to-be-president-if-convicted/?fbclid=IwAR1l-EaEwQ3_P6mDpZiciOAdswwiaTM_ATKBiJHDZrTel3ot8z5SDM6Bb78
― scott seward, Monday, 12 June 2023 17:39 (ten months ago) link
trading ramen noodles for diet cokes. signing bills. working on his swing. writing his prison manifesto. inviting the NCAA championship team to his cell for non-alcoholic toilet wine...
― scott seward, Monday, 12 June 2023 17:40 (ten months ago) link
They said, sir, you have this wonderful system for doing the garlic. I used a razor, and I used to slice it so thin that it used to liquefy in the pan with just a little oil. It was a very good system.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 12 June 2023 17:43 (ten months ago) link
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown)
based on those transcripts & his general personality, i think he literally just wanted to use them to flex
― c u (crüt), Monday, 12 June 2023 18:05 (ten months ago) link
Going great:
New: Trump expected to leave Bedminster shortly to get to Florida this afternoon. He’s spending the day meeting potential lawyers — though David Markus is said to have already turned him down. Another said to be meeting with Trump is Ben Kuehne, who has previously been indicted.— Hugo Lowell (@hugolowell) June 12, 2023
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 12 June 2023 18:14 (ten months ago) link
They already have their wish. Legally speaking, he's not barred from the office. All he has to do is win a majority of the votes of the electoral college and he's back in.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Monday, 12 June 2023 18:15 (ten months ago) link
Perhaps relatedly
APPOINTMENT OF COUNSEL IN TRUMP CASE:I've seen folks speculating that Trump could have appointed counsel or a public defender. He can't. Appointment of counsel in these cases is under the Criminal Justice Act (CJA). (This is a core area of expertise for me.) 1/ https://t.co/WI69RjkFjY— Lee Kovarsky (@lee_kovarsky) June 12, 2023
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 12 June 2023 18:16 (ten months ago) link
He's so innocent no one wants to represent him. Too easy.
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Monday, 12 June 2023 18:22 (ten months ago) link
read your bible
"January 6th is gonna look like a playground" - Trump supporter Pat speaks outside of Trump National Doral Miami where Former President expected to arrive for his second Indictment - "All we need is an order, we are ready" pic.twitter.com/IbKyMwnNbz— Oliya Scootercaster 🛴 (@ScooterCasterNY) June 12, 2023
― lag∞n, Monday, 12 June 2023 18:37 (ten months ago) link
its been said before in this thread but I don't think the right has another J6 in them, the first one went so incredibly poorly
― frogbs, Monday, 12 June 2023 18:45 (ten months ago) link
nah, it was all a set-up to lose the dead weight. the next batch of assholes will be extra hardcore.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 12 June 2023 18:46 (ten months ago) link
Just think, if they riot at the courthouse and get themselves thrown in prison then they can be part of Trump's prison gang
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Monday, 12 June 2023 18:48 (ten months ago) link
yeah, considering it accomplished nothing but getting participants arrested and fired from their jobs, i'm not sure how gung-ho they'd be for a part 2.
― circa1916, Monday, 12 June 2023 18:51 (ten months ago) link
Seeing as these folks proudly fly old Dixie and Nazi flags, they obviously don't care about being on the successful side.
― citation needed (Steve Shasta), Monday, 12 June 2023 18:57 (ten months ago) link
last time around they actually had the belief that the Trump-lead military and government was going to be on their side. which of course happened but not to the degree that they succeeded. now they don't even have that.
the average person wants to go to see Zach Brown Band on Saturday and you can't do that dead or in jail
― the manwich horror (Neanderthal), Monday, 12 June 2023 19:00 (ten months ago) link
one thing's for sure every time something happens that's unambiguously bad for Trump a bunch of insane right-wing assholes (and the New York Times) will scream about how it's actually good for him
― frogbs, Monday, 12 June 2023 19:00 (ten months ago) link
I dunno, man, Trump supporter Pat looks like he's been storing up potential energy on that La-Z-Boy for the past 62 years and waiting like a cobra for the moment to strike.
― Beautiful Bean Footage Fetishist (Old Lunch), Monday, 12 June 2023 19:02 (ten months ago) link
Did that fuckwad say that if Trump gets indoctrinated January 6 is gonna look like a playground?
― henry s, Monday, 12 June 2023 19:03 (ten months ago) link
At this point there are plenty of extreme right LARPers who'll jabber ominously if you put a camera on them and invite them to tell the world how fearsome they are. My sense is that the more competent leadership, capable of forming a plan of action with a ghost of a chance, the type who have relevant military or police training, have either been indicted & convicted or have burrowed themselves deeper underground and are waiting for a more favorable moment such as might be provided with a close election or Trump back in office.
the first one went so incredibly poorly
I disagree. When you consider how small the central core of the conspirators was and how small a force they had at their disposal, they came unbelievably close to success. They nearly handed Trump a pretext for declaring a state of emergency. They expected him to use that gift to complete their coup d'etat. What they failed to understand was that Trump is incompetent. And very lazy. And by far the wrong person to trust to pull his weight.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Monday, 12 June 2023 19:09 (ten months ago) link
admittedly I'm not that well read up on what the plan actually *was* but I thought something like that would depend on Republicans going along with it in lockstep when in fact they were all scared out of their minds
― frogbs, Monday, 12 June 2023 19:16 (ten months ago) link
That moron in the clip does have a distinctive voice, he'd be a nice baritone for the next Trump prison-gang song grift.
― henry s, Monday, 12 June 2023 19:16 (ten months ago) link
xxpost That judge was right to emphasize how dangerous someone like Stewart Rhodes is, because he's (apparently) charismatic, smart and driven. Even if one were to concede the first trait in Trump's case, he sure as hell ain't the other two things.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 12 June 2023 19:22 (ten months ago) link
*capitol police officers watching this in the break room* https://t.co/rxe08GWXyd— southpaw (@nycsouthpaw) June 12, 2023
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 12 June 2023 19:27 (ten months ago) link
guessing the turnout will be higher than it was in New York but I'm still not sure if there will be more reporters or Trump supporters
― frogbs, Monday, 12 June 2023 19:43 (ten months ago) link
Well, it's Florida, for starters.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 12 June 2023 19:45 (ten months ago) link
Is this courthouse on the water? Could be a lot of idiots on boats, they do love a good boat parade.
― henry s, Monday, 12 June 2023 19:45 (ten months ago) link
I’m leaning heavily toward “more reporters”
― tobo73, Monday, 12 June 2023 19:46 (ten months ago) link
More reporters from places with names like FreedomNews.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 12 June 2023 19:48 (ten months ago) link
something like that would depend on Republicans going along with it in lockstep when in fact they were all scared out of their minds
bullies everywhere know that people who are scared out of their minds will often go ahead and eat the bug when you tell them to.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Monday, 12 June 2023 19:49 (ten months ago) link
Is that the 62yo civil war threatenin Trumpo above in this clip?
A trump supporter walks across the street and intimates a counter-protestor, cursing and telling him to leave. Police intervene and break up the confrontation. Outside the Doral hotel in Miami, Florida pic.twitter.com/U5xnmeLA62— Sergio Olmos (@MrOlmos) June 12, 2023
― serving aunt (stevie), Monday, 12 June 2023 19:49 (ten months ago) link
what kind of intimates did he wear?
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 12 June 2023 19:50 (ten months ago) link
Ooh it's the Ted Nugent dude from lagoon's post!
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 12 June 2023 19:57 (ten months ago) link
busy day!
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 12 June 2023 19:58 (ten months ago) link
that's the same guy. he's a publicity hog inspired by all the cameras. with all the photographers he knew he couldn't get physical or he'd risk arrest and conviction so he just yelled a lot.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Monday, 12 June 2023 20:00 (ten months ago) link
here's hoping someone will 'stand their ground' against him
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Monday, 12 June 2023 20:03 (ten months ago) link
i hope an elephant falls out of the sky and lands on him, and fuses together with his body, so that at his funeral, his loved ones will have to choose between an open casket funeral with everyone seeing his head buried deep inside a dead elephant, or a closed casket.
and because of the elephant and him fusing, the casket will have to have enormous proportions and they will have to pay like 300,000 dollars for it and someone will raise it for them and then steal the money and donate it to an LGBTQ+ charity in his name.
― the manwich horror (Neanderthal), Monday, 12 June 2023 20:09 (ten months ago) link
go talk to yr kids and grandkids. Oh wait they cut all ties. loser!
― Crabber B. Munson (Boring, Maryland), Monday, 12 June 2023 20:18 (ten months ago) link
i hope an elephant falls out of the sky and lands on him, and fuses together with his body, so that at his funeral, his loved ones will have to choose between an open casket funeral with everyone seeing his head buried deep inside a dead elephant, or a closed casket.and because of the elephant and him fusing, the casket will have to have enormous proportions and they will have to pay like 300,000 dollars for it and someone will raise it for them and then steal the money and donate it to an LGBTQ+ charity in his name.
― tobo73, Monday, 12 June 2023 20:45 (ten months ago) link
Strong Florida Man vibes with that dude.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 12 June 2023 20:47 (ten months ago) link
tobo73 I can have faith y'know. I can picture the elephant. I can see the elephant. Maybe I can manifest the elephant.
― the manwich horror (Neanderthal), Monday, 12 June 2023 21:02 (ten months ago) link
where's the birth certificate?
― reggie (qualmsley), Monday, 12 June 2023 21:47 (ten months ago) link
Qualms!
― The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 12 June 2023 21:49 (ten months ago) link
For a miserable dick head
― the manwich horror (Neanderthal), Monday, 12 June 2023 23:00 (ten months ago) link
Xxxpost
reporters winning so far
Outside federal court in Miami, 8:51 a.m. ET pic.twitter.com/4vzIpRkwPd— Robert Costa (@costareports) June 13, 2023
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 13 June 2023 14:39 (ten months ago) link
My man Ted's ready to go.
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 13 June 2023 14:45 (ten months ago) link
Roffle
Chris Kise files his appearance as Trump's defense attorney. Note the all caps acknowledgment at the bottom (required by local rules, I think). https://t.co/bXLqD01l1S pic.twitter.com/Fzp9uA69mK— southpaw (@nycsouthpaw) June 13, 2023
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 13 June 2023 14:47 (ten months ago) link
Live feed from an unbiased journalist:
LAURA LOOMER REPORTING LIVE FROM #MIAMI, Florida in front of the US Courthouse https://t.co/6V0pVRanpR— Laura Loomer (@LauraLoomer) June 13, 2023
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Tuesday, 13 June 2023 14:57 (ten months ago) link
weird scene everyone circulating randomly filming
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 13 June 2023 15:00 (ten months ago) link
wonder what percentage of trump supporters there are doing it as a job or at least trying to seems pretty high
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 13 June 2023 15:01 (ten months ago) link
That dude with the pig head seems to be trying to fill a Qanon Shaman-sized hole.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 13 June 2023 15:28 (ten months ago) link
Auditioning for Roger Waters tour
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Tuesday, 13 June 2023 15:29 (ten months ago) link
Right now on the Loomer feed a blonde reporter is talking to a white guy in a Blacks For Trump shirt holding a sign that says "Count the FBI in this Protest."
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Tuesday, 13 June 2023 16:43 (ten months ago) link
"Mediocrities of the world, I absolve you!"
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 13 June 2023 16:46 (ten months ago) link
Oh, so the blonde reporter was actually the 2020 GOP Senate nominee in Deleware. She claimed that there were pictures of Chris Coons' daughter on the Hunter Biden laptop.
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Tuesday, 13 June 2023 16:48 (ten months ago) link
Delaware
Delawhwere?
― pomplamoose and circumstance (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 13 June 2023 17:25 (ten months ago) link
Pls keep this narration going; it seems to be covering all important points and saving me from reading elsewhere.
― tobo73, Tuesday, 13 June 2023 18:18 (ten months ago) link
Right now the rapper from the anti-Target video is talking about an election being stolen. Not sure which one he's referring to.
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Tuesday, 13 June 2023 18:34 (ten months ago) link
J.D. Vance@JDVance1Until Merrick Garland stops using his agency to harass Joe Biden’s political opponents, I will hold all DoJ nominees.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 13 June 2023 18:42 (ten months ago) link
That’s not Melania.Melania is at Mar-a-Lago getting extra “tennis lessons.” pic.twitter.com/DSxnybQYNk— The USA Singers (@TheUSASingers) June 13, 2023
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Tuesday, 13 June 2023 19:09 (ten months ago) link
Judge Jonathan Goodman referred to Trump as “Former President Trump”…., Trump sat with arms folded and no expression on his face— Scott MacFarlane (@MacFarlaneNews) June 13, 2023
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 13 June 2023 19:20 (ten months ago) link
Fun Fact: JD Vance (then known as "James") lived* across the street from my buddy in Bernal Heights, SF about 8-10 years ago, back when he was just a garden variety techbro.
*501 Franconia St for those Zillow curious.
Kinda crazy what a decade can do (though he was working for Thiel at the time so he probably drank the koolaid and some).
― citation needed (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, 13 June 2023 19:21 (ten months ago) link
Huh, the other side of the hill from me. Figures I guess. I heard one time Charles Johnson (remember him?) was around here some years back.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 13 June 2023 19:27 (ten months ago) link
Were there any telltale signs of his current thing in that book of his? I received it as a gift, never read, dropped it at a little free library last year.
― omar little, Tuesday, 13 June 2023 19:28 (ten months ago) link
Lots of Bernal residents on this board iirc ;-)
Yeah that's what was surprising to my (longtime neighborhood resident) friend who said JD and his POC wife (note: they both used different names back then, is that a MAGA thing?) were active in their neighborhood projects (cleanups of neighborhood open space/public stairwells, garden) and seemed pretty non-sociopathic. Then they moved away and JD grew a beard and adopted this whole hillbilly rustbelt salt-of-the-earth persona.
― citation needed (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, 13 June 2023 19:34 (ten months ago) link
Anything for the grift.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 13 June 2023 19:39 (ten months ago) link
Charles Johnson (remember him?)
The Little Green Footballs Charles Johnson, or the Trump-loving sociopath Charles Johnson?
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 13 June 2023 19:41 (ten months ago) link
The latter.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 13 June 2023 19:51 (ten months ago) link
Trump at Cafe Versailles, of course.
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 13 June 2023 20:20 (ten months ago) link
JUST IN - "Food for everyone" Trump chants out at Versailles restaurant in Miami, as a crowd gathers around him. People prayed for him as he entered pic.twitter.com/gvNeCQ8yqw— Trending News (@Trendings911) June 13, 2023
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 13 June 2023 20:25 (ten months ago) link
Hopefully he throws it at folks like the toilet paper.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 13 June 2023 20:30 (ten months ago) link
And, I gotta say, this sequence of events made me sick: these people look like my aunts, uncles, and neighbors.
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 13 June 2023 20:35 (ten months ago) link
they probably are your neighbors, sadly
― broken breakbeat (sleeve), Tuesday, 13 June 2023 20:45 (ten months ago) link
He's gonna duck out and not pay for a thing.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 13 June 2023 20:46 (ten months ago) link
I used to love Versailles. I’m so sorry, Alfred
― Josefa, Tuesday, 13 June 2023 20:51 (ten months ago) link
He is such a cartoon gangster.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 13 June 2023 20:51 (ten months ago) link
Fat Donnie
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 13 June 2023 21:19 (ten months ago) link
Donnie One-Term
― il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Tuesday, 13 June 2023 21:22 (ten months ago) link
Donnie Toilet Paper
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 13 June 2023 21:27 (ten months ago) link
Would be funny if what finally puts him away is fraudulently claiming that restaurant bill on his taxes.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 13 June 2023 21:30 (ten months ago) link
Donny Small Thumbs
― Mule, Tuesday, 13 June 2023 21:32 (ten months ago) link
Donnie Filebox
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 13 June 2023 21:33 (ten months ago) link
the Grand Old Potty
― scott seward, Tuesday, 13 June 2023 22:06 (ten months ago) link
there is a zero percent chance he’ll ever pick up the tab for anyone. this has never happened. I assume when he sits down at someone else’s table at his country club, the food goes on their bill/membership
― mh, Wednesday, 14 June 2023 00:37 (ten months ago) link
― scott seward, Tuesday, June 13, 2023 11:42 AM (six hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
why can't Democrats do this
― symsymsym, Wednesday, 14 June 2023 01:20 (ten months ago) link
as usual, he isn't actually doing anything:
Details: The Ohio Republican is going to put holds on all nominees to the Department of Justice. That means all nominees will require procedural votes and confirmation votes; any one senator can slow down nominees, but a simple majority is required both for a procedural vote and final confirmation.“If Merrick Garland wants to use these officials to harass Joe Biden’s political opponents, we will grind his department to a halt," he said in a statement.Most DOJ nominees require procedural votes given the complexities in getting all 100 senators, particularly on the GOP side, to agree on a speedy vote.The policy does not apply to U.S. marshals, though it does apply to U.S. attorneys. Vance supports Trump in the 2024 primary.
“If Merrick Garland wants to use these officials to harass Joe Biden’s political opponents, we will grind his department to a halt," he said in a statement.
Most DOJ nominees require procedural votes given the complexities in getting all 100 senators, particularly on the GOP side, to agree on a speedy vote.
The policy does not apply to U.S. marshals, though it does apply to U.S. attorneys. Vance supports Trump in the 2024 primary.
― the manwich horror (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 14 June 2023 01:24 (ten months ago) link
like you're not even slowing them down because your party already grinds these votes to a halt, you're just doing nothing and wanting people to suck you off for it
― the manwich horror (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 14 June 2023 01:36 (ten months ago) link
I feel like a lot of the policies that come out of supposedly liberal cities due to the structure of moneyed/powered/embedded interests are responsible for dysfunction in those places and Vance types say how horrible those cities are and then… full-heartedly just spell out those policies and try to make them true everywhere?“the problems in SF are terrible, and that’s why we need policies that will make all places have the issues that exist there”
― mh, Wednesday, 14 June 2023 02:28 (ten months ago) link
One for the ages here pic.twitter.com/Wm417srIND— jordan (@JordanUhl) June 14, 2023
― Clay, Wednesday, 14 June 2023 04:02 (ten months ago) link
i did everything right, and they indicted me. what about sleazyhuntercrookedhillarysleepyjoeburismabenghazi? chinese hoax!
― reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 14 June 2023 21:26 (ten months ago) link
(re: jd vance, i forgot to mention that Hillbilly Elegy is one of the funniest movies i've seen in years. like, in a way that i didn't think anyone even made movies anymore. like, in that way that me and my sister used to endlessly recite lines from horrible t.v. movies when we were kids. that kind of funny.)
― scott seward, Wednesday, 14 June 2023 21:34 (ten months ago) link
god it was such dreck, my folks watched it.
― the manwich horror (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 14 June 2023 21:36 (ten months ago) link
remember after trump got elected when liberals were reading the book to understand what happened
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 14 June 2023 21:38 (ten months ago) link
that fucking pearl clutching was the worst.
― the manwich horror (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 14 June 2023 21:46 (ten months ago) link
its pretty funny that his deep insight to the culture was due to visiting his poor relatives who he hated when he was a kid
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 14 June 2023 21:47 (ten months ago) link
My insight is that Glenn Close is a terrible actress.
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 14 June 2023 21:50 (ten months ago) link
Glenn Close is a trashy actress who gets confused for a proper actress because she's got one of those Streep/Barkin faces. Used properly (The Shield, Damages, Fatal Attraction), she's great.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 14 June 2023 21:54 (ten months ago) link
And Dangerous Liaisons, watched, again, on a plane last Friday and still fun.
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 14 June 2023 22:01 (ten months ago) link
^ Yes, I was gonna say that, but you did first. Malkovich and Close got to 'villain up' in that one and tore into it with happy abandon.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 14 June 2023 22:06 (ten months ago) link
Yeah, I remembered that one as soon as I pushed the button.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 14 June 2023 22:08 (ten months ago) link
Glenn Closer to Fine
― pomplamoose and circumstance (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 14 June 2023 22:36 (ten months ago) link
I'm Glenning Closer to My Home
― henry s, Wednesday, 14 June 2023 22:55 (ten months ago) link
I never thought this day would endI never thought tonight could ever be Glenn Close to me
― pomplamoose and circumstance (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 14 June 2023 22:56 (ten months ago) link
Don't Glenn soDon't Glenn soDon't Glenn so Close to me
― henry s, Wednesday, 14 June 2023 22:58 (ten months ago) link
I was watching The Wife (still haven't finished it...) and I was imagining her playing The Joker. In the movie Joker.
(i'm definitely a fan. she's pretty fearless and fearless people fail a lot. but she's always kinda fun to watch.)
― scott seward, Wednesday, 14 June 2023 23:05 (ten months ago) link
Glenn Gary Glenn Close
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Wednesday, 14 June 2023 23:06 (ten months ago) link
Coffee is for close
Don(ald Trump)'n'Glenn (Close)
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 14 June 2023 23:17 (ten months ago) link
Did they ever meet her?
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 14 June 2023 23:22 (ten months ago) link
― il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Wednesday, 14 June 2023 23:23 (ten months ago) link
DON: I used to see Glenn at the usual Hollywood parties -- Elton's thing, David's thing. She struck me as a woman of extraordinary grace and delicacy, a true lady.
GHOST OF GLENN: If she's named after me, there's nothing graceful and delicate 'bout her!
DON: Well, yeah.
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 14 June 2023 23:34 (ten months ago) link
I never read HBE or saw the movie but the couple that owned the agency I used to work for recommended it which was enough for me to stay far away
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 14 June 2023 23:39 (ten months ago) link
mentioned it recently but when a c-suite guy was speaking to a meeting I was in and he kept mentioning Friedman’s “The World is Flat” glowingly (a couple years after it’s release), I kept thinking he wasn’t long for that job
and, amazingly, he was not
employers mentioning airport bestsellers never bodes well
― mh, Thursday, 15 June 2023 04:13 (ten months ago) link
Glenn Close is also really, really posh?
― steely flan (suzy), Thursday, 15 June 2023 08:11 (ten months ago) link
Close Spice
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Thursday, 15 June 2023 12:01 (ten months ago) link
Anyway, remember that time Trump went to Cafe Versailles and said "food for everyone"?
Yeah, he left without paying for anything.
Because of COURSE he did.
― pomplamoose and circumstance (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 15 June 2023 15:34 (ten months ago) link
(and poster mh TOTALLY called it)
― pomplamoose and circumstance (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 15 June 2023 15:35 (ten months ago) link
*raises hand*
― but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, June 13, 2023 8:46 PM (two days ago)
― but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 15 June 2023 15:36 (ten months ago) link
I mean, every last person in this thread and anywhere in the world called it, whether they said it aloud or not
― fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Thursday, 15 June 2023 15:38 (ten months ago) link
he just meant everyone was at a place where food was available
― lag∞n, Thursday, 15 June 2023 15:38 (ten months ago) link
sorry unperson!
Yep, just wanted to pass along the completely unsurprising confirmation of what we all already knew.
― pomplamoose and circumstance (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 15 June 2023 15:39 (ten months ago) link
stop the steal
― But his face would not turn into hot Kirby (Evan), Thursday, 15 June 2023 15:40 (ten months ago) link
technically the article says he didn't actually order anything, as opposed to ordering food and dashing on the check
― the manwich horror (Neanderthal), Thursday, 15 June 2023 15:44 (ten months ago) link
i.e., said "Food for everybody!" as a bullshit photo op, then said "lol nah" and his entourage left
― the manwich horror (Neanderthal), Thursday, 15 June 2023 15:45 (ten months ago) link
Maybe he was just commenting on the quantity of food. "There is enough food for everyone!"
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 15 June 2023 15:57 (ten months ago) link
"I can hear you! The rest of the world hears you! And the people who knocked these buildings down will hear all of us soon! jk, we're just gonna invade Iraq again."
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Thursday, 15 June 2023 15:59 (ten months ago) link
He loves the validation for knowing things about the common man. Yelled "Everyone poops!" when they took him past the restrooms.
― But his face would not turn into hot Kirby (Evan), Thursday, 15 June 2023 16:01 (ten months ago) link
"I know what this place is for!" Yes, Donald.
― But his face would not turn into hot Kirby (Evan), Thursday, 15 June 2023 16:02 (ten months ago) link
He may not have wanted to pay on realizing how shitty the food is.
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 15 June 2023 16:10 (ten months ago) link
"Everybody poops! that's you...not me."
― the manwich horror (Neanderthal), Thursday, 15 June 2023 16:16 (ten months ago) link
i could see don eating a cuban sandwich. with extra catsup.
― scott seward, Thursday, 15 June 2023 16:16 (ten months ago) link
"I am pooping right now, in solidarity with the common man! Well, symbolically solid, at least ... "
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 15 June 2023 16:17 (ten months ago) link
Donald would order a Cuban sandwich on a poppy seed bun
― the manwich horror (Neanderthal), Thursday, 15 June 2023 16:18 (ten months ago) link
― J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Thursday, 15 June 2023 16:43 (ten months ago) link
― the manwich horror (Neanderthal), Thursday, 15 June 2023 17:04 (ten months ago) link
You should hear him at the bank
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Thursday, 15 June 2023 17:11 (ten months ago) link
Money for everyone!
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 15 June 2023 17:19 (ten months ago) link
Little known fact is that Oprah was actually expressing surprise that everyone in her audience also got a car, the show's lawyers were deeply concerned with the lack of upward inflection in her voice, as she intended to say "you get a car? you get a car? and you get a car?"
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 15 June 2023 17:21 (ten months ago) link
As anyone with a modicum of curiosity about game shows will tell you, things you receive in this way are taxed as if they were income.
When you give someone a new car, or a trip to Tahiti, you also give them a tax bill that might be about 30% of the value of said item.
Here's a new $40,000 car! Enjoy driving it to a place where you can sell a kidney, because you are now on the hook to pay $12,000 in taxes on your new car.
― pomplamoose and circumstance (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 15 June 2023 17:35 (ten months ago) link
u can just sell the car tho
― lag∞n, Thursday, 15 June 2023 17:37 (ten months ago) link
Yeah, I remember it being pretty common knowledge that the winners of the Price is Right showcases mostly put that stuff on the market right after. Except for those trips to Tahiti maybe? Do they really tax things like that?
― henry s, Thursday, 15 June 2023 17:40 (ten months ago) link
Not if they come from Harlan Crow
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Thursday, 15 June 2023 17:41 (ten months ago) link
my friend won the showcase showdown when we were in our early 20s. I do recall he got taxed for the horrible living room furniture and entertainment center as well as his trip to mexico I think.
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 15 June 2023 17:42 (ten months ago) link
I loved those moments when this euphoric data operator from Duluth came on down and when Bob Barker led her to the big walls Elton John would yell A TRIP TO NORTH DAKOTA and the data operator looked like Naomi Watts in Mulholland Drive before she shot herself.
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 15 June 2023 17:44 (ten months ago) link
Of course you can sell the car but it's a really pointless exercise. You still need to report the income, and you are effectively selling a used car. So you're lucky to net half of the value of the thing you allegedly "won."
I would rather they just handed me the cash so I could blow it all on immorality, drugs, and loose living. The IRS can just go find my body out in the desert, wearing a tutu and clutching a bottle of paint thinner.
― pomplamoose and circumstance (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 15 June 2023 17:45 (ten months ago) link
Seems to me like you should be able to stow that new car away until you are 65, and then drive it around tax-free, like a 401K. You'd be the envy of the retirement community tooling around in that mint, vintage Mercury Montego.
― henry s, Thursday, 15 June 2023 17:52 (ten months ago) link
really want to party with Ye Mad now
― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 15 June 2023 18:06 (ten months ago) link
I always assumed they also offered a cash alternative far below the value of the prize. In the UK, we had a game show called Bullseye and many of the contestants seemed to come from the landlocked bits of the midlands, and the prize was often a speedboat, and really what's the fucking point of that?
― serving aunt (stevie), Thursday, 15 June 2023 18:41 (ten months ago) link
^^^ Likewise, easier for all involved to just give cash when the show is over.
― nickn, Thursday, 15 June 2023 19:06 (ten months ago) link
You don't pay tax on gameshow wins at all in the UK, I believe.
― emil.y, Thursday, 15 June 2023 19:09 (ten months ago) link
yeah but the questions are too hard there
― the absence of bikes (f. hazel), Thursday, 15 June 2023 21:09 (ten months ago) link
Also Australia. I live in a city where a massive Bond-villain art museum is paid for by the margins made on European track betting, and the owner had to take the state government to court for trying to tax the income that keeps it afloat. One of the stupidest attempts to kill the golden goose that I’ve ever seen.
― assert (matttkkkk), Friday, 16 June 2023 04:57 (ten months ago) link
Ha Matt I was just about to also mention MONA.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Friday, 16 June 2023 06:40 (ten months ago) link
(As I was reading down before I saw your comment I mean)
Bullseye was literally a game show based around playing darts
― serving aunt (stevie), Friday, 16 June 2023 07:48 (ten months ago) link
the question was 'can u hit a bullseye' and that's hard to do tbf
― rick semper moranis (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 16 June 2023 10:42 (ten months ago) link
Darts is hard!
― Grandall Flange (wins), Friday, 16 June 2023 10:44 (ten months ago) link
Just ask Adrian Chiles...
― Renaissance of the Celtic Trumpet (Tom D.), Friday, 16 June 2023 10:54 (ten months ago) link
iiiiiin #onethread
― Grandall Flange (wins), Friday, 16 June 2023 10:56 (ten months ago) link
JUST IN: Jim TRUSTY, who dropped off of Trump's criminal defense team last week, is now withdrawing from Trump's lawsuit against CNN, citing "irreconcilable differences" with his client. https://t.co/vNocXg40Aq pic.twitter.com/OgxqRPeuA9— Kyle Cheney (@kyledcheney) June 16, 2023
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 16 June 2023 14:16 (ten months ago) link
you can always tell when the lawyer has sent the third invoice to Trump
― the manwich horror (Neanderthal), Friday, 16 June 2023 14:17 (ten months ago) link
― out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Friday, 16 June 2023 14:29 (ten months ago) link
a lawyer called Trusty, eh? hmm.
― StanM, Friday, 16 June 2023 14:30 (ten months ago) link
irl lol @ Neanderthal's post
― J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Friday, 16 June 2023 14:32 (ten months ago) link
i lold
― Spottie, Friday, 16 June 2023 17:02 (ten months ago) link
It would be hilarious if the motion were denied.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 16 June 2023 21:29 (ten months ago) link
Happy Father's Day!
Based solely on what’s known publicly, I was skeptical that Trump would be indicted as part of the January 6th investigation.But Barr is one of a number of people who likely have inside information who are predicting an indictment. It appears Barr has spoken with Smith’s team. https://t.co/mSbtg10tGL— Renato Mariotti (@renato_mariotti) June 18, 2023
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 18 June 2023 18:40 (ten months ago) link
can't help but want to see him crack and start showing up in court in his bathrobe in a wheelchair. with a neck brace on. old man mafia-style. but it probably won't happen.
― scott seward, Sunday, 18 June 2023 19:35 (ten months ago) link
That worked for Weinstein.
― henry s, Sunday, 18 June 2023 20:42 (ten months ago) link
Oh wait, it didn’t.
he could hold one box labelled *beautiful mind* on his lap. and ask it for advice every once in a while. how sad! you can't convict!
― scott seward, Sunday, 18 June 2023 21:13 (ten months ago) link
Maybe Smith can just ask Baier to cross-examine him.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 20 June 2023 01:19 (ten months ago) link
a little behind just seeing these clips now lol!!
Trump brags to Bret Baier about granting Alice Johnson clemency.Baier informs him that she would be killed under his policy proposal of executing drug dealers.Trump is caught off guard: "No, no. No. Under my pl–. Under that? UHHHHHHHHHHH..." pic.twitter.com/WxSWOIQVi5— MeidasTouch (@MeidasTouch) June 20, 2023
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 21 June 2023 16:53 (nine months ago) link
"Okay. Starting now."
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 21 June 2023 16:58 (nine months ago) link
UHHHHHHHHHHH
― jmm, Wednesday, 21 June 2023 16:59 (nine months ago) link
Perfect
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Wednesday, 21 June 2023 17:01 (nine months ago) link
She would be executed under his plan, but the flip side is she would've served far less time.
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Wednesday, 21 June 2023 17:01 (nine months ago) link
well yeah, they would kill her when she was still young and bad rather than old and good.
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Wednesday, 21 June 2023 17:02 (nine months ago) link
Trump's plan was to make Henry McMaster the Governor of South Carolina. But first he had to get rid of the mediocre Nikki Haley by...appointing her U.N. Secretary.
Trump: Nikki Haley hasn't caught on, everyone knows she is highly overrated… Baier: That's why you put her in the position for the U.N.? pic.twitter.com/u1gOSo3IkC— Acyn (@Acyn) June 20, 2023
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Wednesday, 21 June 2023 17:08 (nine months ago) link
trying to ask him why he did anything at all is going to be a useless endeavor because he just... does stuff
― mh, Wednesday, 21 June 2023 17:20 (nine months ago) link
It certainly illustrates that his appointments are not well thought out when so many major ones end up under the bus, not exactly a picture of quality executive leadership.
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Wednesday, 21 June 2023 17:24 (nine months ago) link
At this point, further proof of Trump's incompetence is truly coals to Newcastle.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 21 June 2023 17:27 (nine months ago) link
“So nice to see that Sloppy, Low Energy RINO Bill Barr, gets loudly booed and shouted at everywhere he goes! He is sooo bad for America,” Trump wrote Tuesday on his Truth Social platform.
Barr gets booed?
― Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 21 June 2023 18:07 (nine months ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNxIatB-kqQ
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Wednesday, 21 June 2023 18:13 (nine months ago) link
so weird how these terrible traitors always seemed to elude his judgment when he nominated them
― the manwich horror (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 21 June 2023 18:13 (nine months ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMzIk2pUuNU
― Grandall Flange (wins), Wednesday, 21 June 2023 18:34 (nine months ago) link
Going great!
At Bedminster last night, Trump says some of the best lawyers and law firms in the country contacted him offering their help but he told them he didn’t need it. pic.twitter.com/63UkRZVqog— Ron Filipkowski (@RonFilipkowski) June 23, 2023
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 23 June 2023 14:49 (nine months ago) link
"They had me at 'sir'" ...
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 23 June 2023 15:34 (nine months ago) link
the biggest people
― c u (crüt), Friday, 23 June 2023 15:52 (nine months ago) link
he doesn't need them, he got Rudy
― StanM, Friday, 23 June 2023 16:23 (nine months ago) link
Rudy (as we all know) can't fail
― pomplamoose and circumstance (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 23 June 2023 16:25 (nine months ago) link
Meantime, this filing in re the Carroll suit and an appeal may seem pro forma:
https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.590045/gov.uscourts.nysd.590045.209.0.pdf
But to quote Mitchell Epner on Bluesky:
In my 25+ years as an attorney, I've never seen an appellant who had the $ that couldn't get a supersedeas bond. Donald Trump is so distrusted by the bonding community (who usually deal w/felons) that he has to deposit 110% of the $5M verdict into the Southern District of New York ($5.5M) to take an appeal.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 23 June 2023 19:02 (nine months ago) link
Donnie Empty-Pockets
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 23 June 2023 19:07 (nine months ago) link
lmao 110%
― mh, Friday, 23 June 2023 19:13 (nine months ago) link
111%!
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 23 June 2023 19:19 (nine months ago) link
Accordion hands: a definite tell. ✅ pic.twitter.com/DP75k8tEv1— Ali Adair #DoTheRightThing 🟧 (@AliAdair22) June 23, 2023
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 23 June 2023 20:38 (nine months ago) link
I like the read of this:
ALERT: Special Counsel Jack Smith files motion with Judge Aileen Cannon in Trump criminal case“The government files this motion to continue the trial date to December 11, 2023”(More)— Scott MacFarlane (@MacFarlaneNews) June 24, 2023
Namely, that this is not a delay but rather the counter, moving the tent date to a firm December, thus preempting Trump's typical delay strategy, while at the same time giving him several more months to put his foot in his mouth, while at the same time giving the government even more time to firm up its case, do interviews, find more evidence, etc.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 24 June 2023 02:12 (nine months ago) link
https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/26/politics/trump-classified-documents-audio/index.html
― Alito Bit of Soap (President Keyes), Tuesday, 27 June 2023 00:16 (nine months ago) link
Well, speaking of foot in mouth
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 27 June 2023 03:17 (nine months ago) link
ctrl-F "sir"
― assert (matttkkkk), Tuesday, 27 June 2023 04:05 (nine months ago) link
His need to show off is even greater than his (very large) sense of self-preservation.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 27 June 2023 18:31 (nine months ago) link
this is what happens when you elect a joke president. the country would have been better off with a sign that said "deez nuts" propped up on a chair in the oval office.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 27 June 2023 18:41 (nine months ago) link
Yeah, but the joke's on us.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 27 June 2023 18:43 (nine months ago) link
Deez Nuts/Squirrel 2024
― Alito Bit of Soap (President Keyes), Tuesday, 27 June 2023 18:45 (nine months ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfTGZFB0iU0
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 27 June 2023 18:51 (nine months ago) link
Personally, I intend to vote for Joe.
Mama
― pomplamoose and circumstance (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 27 June 2023 20:15 (nine months ago) link
we have to get bofa before the Supreme Court
― the new drip king (DJP), Tuesday, 27 June 2023 21:15 (nine months ago) link
― sad Mings of dynasty (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 27 June 2023 21:21 (nine months ago) link
That audio is hilarious
― treeship., Tuesday, 27 June 2023 21:21 (nine months ago) link
"Let me show you this buttfor I snuck out of the Oval Office before I left"
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 27 June 2023 21:22 (nine months ago) link
Most of all bc he doesn’t seem to know that the pentagon draws up plans for tons of scenarios. The existence of that doc doesn’t mean milley “planned to attack iran”
― treeship., Tuesday, 27 June 2023 21:23 (nine months ago) link
Grasp any straw!
Former President Donald Trump insisted on Tuesday that he was not showing off classified documents in an audio clip first published by CNN in which he referred to “highly confidential” material and “secret information” that he could no longer declassify.“I would say it was bravado, if you want to know the truth, it was bravado,” Trump said in an interview aboard his plane with Semafor and ABC News. “I was talking and just holding up papers and talking about them, but I had no documents. I didn’t have any documents.”The latest comments suggested a new potential legal argument from the former president: That he was overselling the material he was showing to an aide and people working on a biography of former chief of staff Mark Meadows in the recording, a transcript of which featured heavily in his recent federal indictment.“I just held up a whole pile of — my desk is loaded up with papers. I have papers from 25 different things,” he said, adding he kept relevant news articles about topics like Iran on hand.Asked about his use of the word “plans” during a Fox News interview earlier Tuesday to describe some items he may have highlighted in the 2021 meeting, Trump insisted he was referring to “building plans” and plans for golf courses strewn about his desk.“Did I use the word plans?” he said. “What I’m referring to is magazines, newspapers, plans of buildings. I had plans of buildings. You know, building plans? I had plans of a golf course.”Asked if he had any regrets about his handling of classified documents, Trump said he did not.
“I would say it was bravado, if you want to know the truth, it was bravado,” Trump said in an interview aboard his plane with Semafor and ABC News. “I was talking and just holding up papers and talking about them, but I had no documents. I didn’t have any documents.”
The latest comments suggested a new potential legal argument from the former president: That he was overselling the material he was showing to an aide and people working on a biography of former chief of staff Mark Meadows in the recording, a transcript of which featured heavily in his recent federal indictment.
“I just held up a whole pile of — my desk is loaded up with papers. I have papers from 25 different things,” he said, adding he kept relevant news articles about topics like Iran on hand.
Asked about his use of the word “plans” during a Fox News interview earlier Tuesday to describe some items he may have highlighted in the 2021 meeting, Trump insisted he was referring to “building plans” and plans for golf courses strewn about his desk.
“Did I use the word plans?” he said. “What I’m referring to is magazines, newspapers, plans of buildings. I had plans of buildings. You know, building plans? I had plans of a golf course.”
Asked if he had any regrets about his handling of classified documents, Trump said he did not.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 27 June 2023 23:34 (nine months ago) link
NO REGERTS
― out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Tuesday, 27 June 2023 23:49 (nine months ago) link
Gen Milley totally fucked up the 16th hole. Lots of missing balls.
― Alito Bit of Soap (President Keyes), Tuesday, 27 June 2023 23:59 (nine months ago) link
Okay he kind of sounds like he knows he’s fucked now
― frogbs, Wednesday, 28 June 2023 01:28 (nine months ago) link
Can I just say? It's unlikely that Trump will ever see jail time, but I love - love! - the idea of all his knucklehead followers getting busted in convoluted, stupid plans to bust him out. Hell, I would love a parade of failed jailbreaks even if Trump was *not* in jail, like these nerds were so far up their own butts they were convinced he was in Guantanamo and hatched some ill-fated schemes.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 28 June 2023 01:34 (nine months ago) link
They used to call that natural selection.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 28 June 2023 01:36 (nine months ago) link
i was startled by his use of the word "please" when asking for cokes, v. weak imo
― Marina Punky Chow (cat), Wednesday, 28 June 2023 01:39 (nine months ago) link
“ “I would say it was bravado, if you want to know the truth, it was bravado,” Trump said in an interview aboard his plane with Semafor and ABC News. “I was talking and just holding up papers and talking about them, but I had no documents. I didn’t have any documents.””
It goes without saying, but what a goddamn fucking moron.
― The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 28 June 2023 01:46 (nine months ago) link
“As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.”
― H.L. Mencken, On Politics: A Carnival of Buncombe
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 28 June 2023 02:01 (nine months ago) link
Every time Trump attempts to wriggle out of trouble I think of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3EVzoolYugAExcept in our cursed reality 3/4 of the world does Olympic-level mental gymnastics to pretend that they don't see the ALLEGED sprinkles that are vajazzled across the expanse of his pustulant mug
― Fish Sticks in the Fanny Pack (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 28 June 2023 02:09 (nine months ago) link
"Aides said he talked about Ivanka Trump's breasts, her backside, and what it might be like to have sex with her, remarks that once led (former Chief of Staff) John Kelly to remind the president that Ivanka was his daughter," Taylor writes.
"Afterward, Kelly retold that story to me in visible disgust. Trump, he said, was 'a very, very evil man.'"
― Alito Bit of Soap (President Keyes), Wednesday, 28 June 2023 16:41 (nine months ago) link
ew, you know Jared has to regale him with the details of their marital relations
― Crabber B. Munson (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 28 June 2023 17:08 (nine months ago) link
Date night
https://api.time.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/ivanka-trump-10.jpg
― Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 28 June 2023 17:12 (nine months ago) link
^^Worst Duran Duran video
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 28 June 2023 18:38 (nine months ago) link
*unbookmarks thread*
― Looking For Mr. Goodreads (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 28 June 2023 19:57 (nine months ago) link
I wish
There a lot of avenues for disliking this fellow but maybe can we not joke about this one?
Like, the dude has a lot of flaws and vulnerabilities, but let's please not be flippant about pedophilia and incest and the power dynamics involved with rape culture, thxbye
― pomplamoose and circumstance (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 28 June 2023 23:49 (nine months ago) link
he really loves those documents
EXCLUSIVE: Trump ordered his lawyers to get "my documents" back -- AFTER they told him he'd be indicted https://t.co/ig5qnGfYwh— Noah Shachtman (@NoahShachtman) June 29, 2023
― lag∞n, Thursday, 29 June 2023 00:13 (nine months ago) link
he was calling for his documents back on truth social like a few weeks ago -- after the indictment
― treeship., Thursday, 29 June 2023 00:20 (nine months ago) link
the stuff about his daughter is stomach-churningly evil. i know that she and her husband are corrupt, complicit, consciousless, etc, but i can't help feelign bad for her.
― treeship., Thursday, 29 June 2023 00:30 (nine months ago) link
*conscienceless
xp his presidential library will just be rows and rows of dusty banker's boxes... go ahead - lift the lid and see what's in there, maybe a yellowed clipping or some golf pants that don't fit anymore
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 29 June 2023 00:31 (nine months ago) link
If I hadn’t been prepared by years of jokes about Trump wanting to sleep with Ivanka, I would find this shocking
― Alito Bit of Soap (President Keyes), Thursday, 29 June 2023 00:34 (nine months ago) link
it's not shocking but it's disgusting
― treeship., Thursday, 29 June 2023 00:38 (nine months ago) link
well, yeah
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 29 June 2023 00:39 (nine months ago) link
He really does think he's some kind of aristocrat. (Take that how you want.)
― but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 29 June 2023 01:41 (nine months ago) link
See what you did there.
― Looking For Mr. Goodreads (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 29 June 2023 02:07 (nine months ago) link
― Alito Bit of Soap (President Keyes), Wednesday, June 28, 2023 7:34 PM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
yeah kind of messed up that the last President is openly talking about fucking his own daughter and the collective reponse is "yeah we already knew that, in fact everyone knew that when he was elected President, and it won't stop him from getting elected again"
― frogbs, Thursday, 29 June 2023 02:56 (nine months ago) link
Kind of a return to form for this country
― fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Thursday, 29 June 2023 03:10 (nine months ago) link
Remember, everyone side-eye joked about Saville for years and the truth ended up being WORSE.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Thursday, 29 June 2023 04:21 (nine months ago) link
He was known to be a corpse-fucker with sanctioned access to at least one hospital morgue for a decade or two before his death, I missed it if something worse came out(and Trump repeatedly talked on radio, TV and to print reporters decades before these secret tapes abt wanting to fuck his daughter)
― serving bundt (sic), Thursday, 29 June 2023 06:10 (nine months ago) link
yeah fair enough, I guess I forgot some ppl knew about the worst stuff (or suspected)
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Thursday, 29 June 2023 07:02 (nine months ago) link
This is a weird convo to be having but many of savile’s crimes were worse than necrophilia
― Grandall Flange (wins), Thursday, 29 June 2023 07:29 (nine months ago) link
― Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 29 June 2023 10:06 (nine months ago) link
(yes, weird convo but)Worse in terms of impact on victims, but wildly more precedented wrt being a common and actively supported perk of fame / power / money / monstrous self-confidence. It’s very, very unusual for public figures to have free rein to morgues, with it being reported in fun celebrity gossip newsletters, and (horribly) less so for those around them to treat access to large numbers of vulnerable young people as something to be blind-eyed, giggled about, or reinforced. Both were known during his lifetime, though, to the degree that he was asked on camera about the more commonly tolerated one. Likewise, it’s unusual for celebrities to publicly talk for decades about how very horny they are for their daughters, but “jokes” about Trump being horny for his daughter are in fact based on his history of saying “I am very horny for my daughter.”(Square the circle with Trump telling interviewers “Jeffrey Epstein is a cool guy that I admire, who fucks a lot of minors.”)
― serving bundt (sic), Thursday, 29 June 2023 13:29 (nine months ago) link
golly
"Prosecutors are now prepared to 'stack' an 'additional 30 to 45 charges' on top of the 37-count indictment brought against Mr Trump" using new evidence including additional recordings "which reveal Mr Trump making incriminating statements."https://t.co/CHZK0YQLIB— Oona Hathaway (@oonahathaway) June 29, 2023
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Thursday, 29 June 2023 19:24 (nine months ago) link
This is the key bit:
could do so in a number of different venues
ie very likely New Jersey due to Bedminster.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 29 June 2023 19:25 (nine months ago) link
I mean at this point his entire gambit to avoid/overturn conviction is to get elected president. They can charge him with 3,000 things, it doesn't matter, he's all in. He'll just keep doubling down, playing up the victim angle.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 29 June 2023 19:28 (nine months ago) link
That won't cut any ice with state charges in, e.g., Georgia.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 29 June 2023 19:29 (nine months ago) link
So are we saying this possible upcoming round of more indictments may literally be his New Jersey?
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 29 June 2023 19:33 (nine months ago) link
keep the faith
― Alito Bit of Soap (President Keyes), Thursday, 29 June 2023 19:34 (nine months ago) link
Donald J. Trump, truly the Drake of US politics
― slugbuggy, life has new meaning to me (breastcrawl), Thursday, 29 June 2023 19:36 (nine months ago) link
what are donald trump's flaws
― sad Mings of dynasty (Neanderthal), Thursday, 29 June 2023 19:39 (nine months ago) link
https://media.tenor.com/9WfymZ-vv3gAAAAM/mary-poppins.gif
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 29 June 2023 19:45 (nine months ago) link
Couldn't we just "stack" boulders on his chest?
― but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 29 June 2023 19:46 (nine months ago) link
"more weight" cried Giles Trumpy
― sad Mings of dynasty (Neanderthal), Thursday, 29 June 2023 19:48 (nine months ago) link
I'm not saying it's a well-thought-out strategy. That's not his thing. He's just running on sheer bullish instinct — it more or less hasn't failed him yet. People have told him he's fucked 10,000 times in his life and he's always just said, "I'm not fucked, YOU'RE fucked," and here he is at 77 running neck and neck for a second term as president.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 29 June 2023 20:00 (nine months ago) link
The best thing for all concerned would be for him just to die.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 29 June 2023 20:01 (nine months ago) link
I have no fucking doubt that this piece of shit will get a second term. Biden will tell us he’s so disappointed, but that “staying high while they go low” will continue to be the best path forward. Always be a good sport!
― beamish13, Thursday, 29 June 2023 20:11 (nine months ago) link
Jesus, I hope not.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 29 June 2023 20:13 (nine months ago) link
take it here: rolling “Trump is gonna win” containment thread
― sad Mings of dynasty (Neanderthal), Thursday, 29 June 2023 20:13 (nine months ago) link
He's not going to win, relax.
― Crabber B. Munson (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 29 June 2023 20:15 (nine months ago) link
I’ll take this anger inward, thank you. The worst that can happen is it metastasizes into cancer
― beamish13, Thursday, 29 June 2023 20:16 (nine months ago) link
If he dies without suffering, I guess that's all right. But I would prefer having him die after a deeply unpleasant period in which he has to be faced with the consequences of his actions, and in which he has to contemplate his myriad sins against taste and against humanity
ymmv
― pomplamoose and circumstance (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 29 June 2023 20:23 (nine months ago) link
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, June 29, 2023 4:01 PM (twenty-one minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
The best thing would be for him to get the nomination, pick some weirdo for his running mate, then die and let the GOP tear itself apart trying to decide who was going to replace him on the ticket.
― Alito Bit of Soap (President Keyes), Thursday, 29 June 2023 20:24 (nine months ago) link
pillow guy vs MTG FITE
― pomplamoose and circumstance (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 29 June 2023 20:26 (nine months ago) link
xxp I think he is completely immune to facing the consequences of his actions or contemplating his sins. I don't think his brain is even able to work that way.
I would actually love for him to have a massive, paralyzing stroke, be forced to spend the rest of his days watching Obama's roasting of him at the 2011 Correspondents' Dinner on an endless loop, and to die alone and in complete obscurity.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 29 June 2023 20:26 (nine months ago) link
ok
anyway Boebert/Hawley '24
― pomplamoose and circumstance (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 29 June 2023 20:27 (nine months ago) link
Is a presidential candidate even required to have a running mate?
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 29 June 2023 20:28 (nine months ago) link
Technically, no. It's just become customary. Pretty sure the original founding assumption was that the runner-up would become vice president.
― pomplamoose and circumstance (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 29 June 2023 20:30 (nine months ago) link
Biden/Trump 24
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 29 June 2023 20:30 (nine months ago) link
Different sides of the same ass penny
― beamish13, Thursday, 29 June 2023 20:31 (nine months ago) link
uh no
― out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Thursday, 29 June 2023 20:32 (nine months ago) link
“Whoever wins, we lose.”-Alien vs. Predator tagline. Also, the theme of every American election
― beamish13, Thursday, 29 June 2023 20:34 (nine months ago) link
I have no fucking doubt that this piece of shit will get a second term.
The independents who delivered his first term think he smells like shit now.. it's only his faithful now, and there's just not enough of them
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 29 June 2023 20:35 (nine months ago) link
there's losing and there's an 8-1 SCOTUS advantage and a President actively encouraging people to discriminate against minorities and gay people and issuing anti-trans Executive orders
― sad Mings of dynasty (Neanderthal), Thursday, 29 June 2023 20:36 (nine months ago) link
if he gets the nomination there's always a chance, but if he couldn't win as the incumbant I'm not sure how he's gonna win after losing once, inciting a riot, and then getting charged with 400 felonies. like who voted Biden in 2020 that is now gonna go, "eh, Trump deserves another chance"
― frogbs, Thursday, 29 June 2023 20:37 (nine months ago) link
When he gets the nomination
Who else is there? Fucking Mittens AGAIN? Abbott and De Santis don’t mean shit outside of their states. There are no women vying for it
― beamish13, Thursday, 29 June 2023 20:40 (nine months ago) link
Much like 2020, can't underestimate the absolute hate and terror that would drive Democrats to the polls
― omar little, Thursday, 29 June 2023 20:40 (nine months ago) link
Not that Trump doesn't have some enthusiasm in his base of course but I don't see it being better for him this time around
― omar little, Thursday, 29 June 2023 20:41 (nine months ago) link
There are no women vying for it
Except Nikki Haley
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 29 June 2023 20:42 (nine months ago) link
just seems if the GOP has any savviness at all they'd know they have to move past Trump, they've been consistently getting their asses kicked since 2016 and having their frontrunner be a guy who is facing trial for like a hundred felony counts while the primaries are going on seems like a surefire way to get your ass kicked again. but somehow I think DeSantis would do even worse!
― frogbs, Thursday, 29 June 2023 21:11 (nine months ago) link
“This is off the record, but -“
― The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 29 June 2023 21:20 (nine months ago) link
There's an old phrase, "lucky in one's enemies."
Trumpdom offers basically no appeal to anyone of good sense and good will... but it still needs a viable alternative. Sensible people reject the Don and all his insanity but there is also a serious enthusiasm gap around ol' Mr. Biden.
I would feel a lot better about dismissing any chance for The Orange Personage if we didn't have such a nose-holding situation on the opposing side.
― pomplamoose and circumstance (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 29 June 2023 21:21 (nine months ago) link
people were really enthusiastic about Biden when he was the only thing standing between us and 4 more years of Trump and I suspect that'll probably happen again
― frogbs, Thursday, 29 June 2023 21:24 (nine months ago) link
Biden’s health is an enormous fucking liability, and I hate how the DNC has no real contingency plan beyond Harris, who sold out her ideals very early in the 2020 cycle. Two octogenarians squaring off is horrifying. When the Soviet Union was in its death throes, everyone in power was ancient as well
― beamish13, Thursday, 29 June 2023 21:24 (nine months ago) link
I like Kamala, but she, like most female politicians in this country, is widely reviled.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 29 June 2023 21:25 (nine months ago) link
Hard to see a situation where Biden loses votes without Trump also losing as many or more votes. Hard to see the turnout increasing on 2020 too though (at least not in a way that benefits Dems as much as in 2020).
― nashwan, Thursday, 29 June 2023 21:26 (nine months ago) link
Most progressives do not like her poor history as a prosecutor, and she completely caved on Medicare for All. I detest her replacement in California, Alex Padilla, who is even worse
― beamish13, Thursday, 29 June 2023 21:27 (nine months ago) link
DeSantis is tacking to the right of Pinochet, I don't see how he thinks this is a winning strategy.. now he wants to end birthright citizenship and dissolve the IRS, no details on how he plans to accomplish other than repetitive evocations of woke
His whole 'we'll fight the woke on the beaches, we'll fight the woke in the streets" is a straight-up Churchill ripoff, except Churchill was talking about literal fucking NAZIs rather than well-meaning folks concerned with inclusion and social justice.. kind of offensive to compare the two
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 29 June 2023 21:40 (nine months ago) link
Most progressives do not like her poor history as a prosecutor, and she completely caved on Medicare for All.
Well, there go 30 votes in Vermont and 60 in California...
― but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 29 June 2023 21:41 (nine months ago) link
Sorry, what? M4All is INCREDIBLY popular, at least in coastal states. Oregon enshrined a right fi healthcare in its state constitution. Is it too much to ask America to evolve with the mid-20th century and have guaranteed fucking healthcare? Christ. You’re pudding away hundreds of billions on murdering people abroad every year
― beamish13, Thursday, 29 June 2023 21:44 (nine months ago) link
Part of the reason why I emigrated to Canada is a desire to not be a slave to my work just for healthcare. It’s an unbelievable burden, and eventually the dam has to burst in America. Or you go bust. Or both.
― beamish13, Thursday, 29 June 2023 21:47 (nine months ago) link
M4All is INCREDIBLY popular, at least in coastal states. Oregon enshrined a right fi healthcare in its state constitution. Is it too much to ask America to evolve with the mid-20th century and have guaranteed fucking healthcare?
"Medicare for All" as a concept, as a daydream, is popular in a "would you like a cookie? sure, if you're giving out cookies" sense, but it's not a determining factor in most people's vote for president and never will be, because a) they have decades of experience of seeing presidents throw away opportunities to improve the lives of Americans and b) they have decades of experience of governmental attempts at improving Americans' lives turning into compromised, suck-ass half-measures full of bribes for rich scumbags anyway.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 29 June 2023 21:50 (nine months ago) link
I guess Americans are fucked. It sucks that they don’t demand more, but I get it. You delude yourself into thinking you’re superior by staying ignorant of other countries and customs, promoting monolingualism, and romanticizing the status quo
― beamish13, Thursday, 29 June 2023 21:52 (nine months ago) link
M4Alll is a useful whipping boy for red state legislators; "wouldn't your rather have no healthcare at all than having BIG DEEP STATE gov't deciding when to euthanize your grandma??"
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 29 June 2023 21:57 (nine months ago) link
People fall for the Boogeyman. It’s the lack of media literacy (or really, literacy period. Millions cannot read at an 8th grade level)
― beamish13, Thursday, 29 June 2023 21:58 (nine months ago) link
Millions cannot read at an 8th grade level
My second favorite Tortoise album.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 29 June 2023 21:59 (nine months ago) link
50, 000 Trumpers Can Hijack a Government
― beamish13, Thursday, 29 June 2023 22:00 (nine months ago) link
How is Biden's health solely an issue when Trump has some of the worst cholesterol numbers that you'd ever expect to see from someone taking a powerful dose of statin. He also never exercises.
Like if someone's making that their reason to vote against Biden, nobody reasonable was ever getting their vote
― sad Mings of dynasty (Neanderthal), Thursday, 29 June 2023 22:20 (nine months ago) link
Still a shame COVID didn't get him
― sad Mings of dynasty (Neanderthal), Thursday, 29 June 2023 22:22 (nine months ago) link
Never said Trump’s wasn’t an issue, either. Neither is doing much better than Diane Feinstein (who I fucking detest. People like her and Ruth Bader Ginsburg just cannot cede power)
― beamish13, Thursday, 29 June 2023 22:28 (nine months ago) link
Btw progressives didn't give Biden the White House. Independents did. They don't gaf about M4A.
That's missing the point here itt though. Most of us here support progressive policies and know how fucked our system is, so you're kinda being needlessly condescending, beamish.
But lack of M4All isn't dooming Biden.
The worry is the aforementioned Independents. Some of them will defect to the outsider party as per usual. Some will do so because of blaming Biden for inflation/economy. Others will still be driven to vote against Trump. Some may give up on voting.
The indictment will drive many Independents away, as well as gaining some who are stupid and believe it's gamesmanship.
But the Independents plus D turnout as well as Rs maintaining their 2020 turnout are the key to this election
― sad Mings of dynasty (Neanderthal), Thursday, 29 June 2023 22:31 (nine months ago) link
Not trying to be condescending at all. Simply disgusted with the state of affairs in my former nation and resigned to the fact that things are only going to get worse
― beamish13, Thursday, 29 June 2023 22:34 (nine months ago) link
Turns out "American carnage" was aspriational.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 29 June 2023 22:37 (nine months ago) link
*aspirational
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 29 June 2023 22:38 (nine months ago) link
Wish Trump would aspirate.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 29 June 2023 23:53 (nine months ago) link
We can wish that he'd choke on a bone, but he probably only eats boneless chicken tenders.. he doesn't eat salmon
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 30 June 2023 00:06 (nine months ago) link
he doesn't eat salmon
definitely the beginning of the end for the Flaming Lips
― sad Mings of dynasty (Neanderthal), Friday, 30 June 2023 00:11 (nine months ago) link
he probably only eats boneless chicken tenders..
NEVER FORGET
https://img.i-scmp.com/cdn-cgi/image/fit=contain,width=425,format=auto/sites/default/files/styles/768x768/public/d8/images/methode/2020/11/23/06e11d1a-2a47-11eb-bf26-f2b76f37a526_image_hires_185130.png?itok=cUX5o-f0&v=1606128702
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 30 June 2023 01:27 (nine months ago) link
One of the only ways he plays is safe: eating KFC w/a knife & fork
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 30 June 2023 01:29 (nine months ago) link
that's another crime right there
― StanM, Friday, 30 June 2023 02:56 (nine months ago) link
wish he'd eat it with a katana
― sad Mings of dynasty (Neanderthal), Friday, 30 June 2023 03:01 (nine months ago) link
I agree — and to be clear, I'm not personally doomy about this election, I'm "I have no idea what's going to happen, shit is crazy." But Biden's weakness is just exactly what it looks like. Even if people don't think he's senescent, they do think he's old and out of touch and utterly uninspiring — I think that myself! For an incumbent, he's a super weak candidate. He got something of a pass in 2020 because so many people were turned off by Trump, but incumbents don't get that advantage. So I think he's coming in with the latent weaknesses of an incumbent in a shaky economy and few of the advantages.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Friday, 30 June 2023 05:16 (nine months ago) link
Incumbents do, however, have a pronounced advantage that in modern times, they rarely lose.
that said, I don't think his winning re-election is a foregone conclusion either (and this is coming from someone who spent 2019-2020 basically screaming Trump was toast). i think treating any of the outcomes like foregone conclusions is just an effort in anxiety at this point - who knows, maybe polar bears will take America hostage
I would, however, encourage people to ignore any polling Presidential head to head polling right now, particularly because the 'undecided' responses are through the stratosphere, and pre-nom polls are usually garbage.
― sad Mings of dynasty (Neanderthal), Friday, 30 June 2023 05:21 (nine months ago) link
People who were turned off by Trump in 2020 are still turned off by Trump, because he's still in their faces every day. That should translate to voting turnout but who can say any more. I just hope that people who got turned off by Trump over the past few years stay turned off.
― nickn, Friday, 30 June 2023 05:33 (nine months ago) link
I’m pretty certain Donnie won’t win again if he gets the nom, but also think the idea of large turnout is wild. Biden is about as inspirational as a school lunch tray left out in the rain.
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Friday, 30 June 2023 11:23 (nine months ago) link
It's tough to imagine the presidential election with the highest turnout percentage rate in our lifetimes could be followed by an election with the exact same two candidates but see a significant turnout dropoff but ... yeah, there we kind of are.
― fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Friday, 30 June 2023 11:31 (nine months ago) link
I for one would welcome the polar bears
― pomplamoose and circumstance (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 30 June 2023 12:04 (nine months ago) link
they make great points
― sad Mings of dynasty (Neanderthal), Friday, 30 June 2023 13:05 (nine months ago) link
It's been a while since I poked my head into reddit's Ask Trump Supporters group, where it's sometimes useful to take the temperature of things, and I was (pleasantly?) surprised to see the reaction of many to hearing the CNN tape that it does indeed look bad for Trump. Usually at least a few people bend over backwards to defend him, but in this case, not really.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 30 June 2023 13:16 (nine months ago) link
― Crabber B. Munson (Boring, Maryland), Friday, 30 June 2023 13:20 (nine months ago) link
Biden's been better than I expected. I've no problem voting for him positively.
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 30 June 2023 13:26 (nine months ago) link
Deez Nuts has an outsider chance
― sad Mings of dynasty (Neanderthal), Friday, 30 June 2023 13:27 (nine months ago) link
Bofa/Deez Nuts 24
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 30 June 2023 13:36 (nine months ago) link
Deez/Nader '24
― fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Friday, 30 June 2023 13:39 (nine months ago) link
Surprise third-party challenge from Updog
― pomplamoose and circumstance (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 30 June 2023 14:32 (nine months ago) link
Dee/Nuts '24
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 30 June 2023 14:32 (nine months ago) link
"I'm being indicted for you." biblical, man. there is so much fearmongering in the new hampshire speech i'm surprised that he didn't just start naming random objects that the government is coming to take away from you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-giInVBpG8
― scott seward, Friday, 30 June 2023 16:09 (nine months ago) link
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/27/TheyreComingToTakeMeAway-singlecover.jpg
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 30 June 2023 16:12 (nine months ago) link
He'll def be happy to see those nice young men in their clean white robes
― fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Friday, 30 June 2023 16:13 (nine months ago) link
I stumbled on a book review from September 2020 for Bob Woodward's tell-all books about Trump. It was a walk down Memory Lane. The review included such golden hits as:
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 30 June 2023 16:35 (nine months ago) link
And after all that he still got 70 million votes
Indeed and I would suggest that this indicates how elite opinion(e.g. NYT Op-Eds) against the guy don’t actually do anything noticeable to decrease his vote count. Hell, more than a little bit of his appeal to part of the voter base that he *against* all those elites that plenty of voters blame for making like shitty(and of course there’s a kernel of truth to that)
I’m reminded of a point I’ve seen made from everybody from George Lakoff to C. Derick Varn over the last 20 years, that non-reactionaries need a far better model of the reactionary mind, as most Discourse on this shit doesn’t have an accurate idea what motivates voter behavior, or even voter whim.
― Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Friday, 30 June 2023 16:51 (nine months ago) link
They can interview my family: they hate anyone whom they suspect of receiving unearned benefits. That's the whole story.
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 30 June 2023 16:53 (nine months ago) link
don’t actually do anything noticeable to decrease his vote count.
well except decreasing it below how many EVs the leading vote-getter had. the important part.
that's the main thing. we all want all of these controversies to like, embarrass Trump and cause him to lose 538-0, but in today's America nothing like that will ever happen again, even if the candidate is a dog with one leg. I do too! but each party has a significant amount of built in votes now which requires humongous domino-toppling to flip. Georgia is a state a Dem can flip, and Pennsylvania could be flipped by an R like Trump did, but flipping Texas or a Republican flipping California would likely require massive vote-rigging.
but these things DO have an effect on his performance, just not in the monumental way we want it to happen. the impact is more noticeable at midterms, but Trump could have spun COVID into a war-time bump to his numbers and instead it became a liability.
― sad Mings of dynasty (Neanderthal), Friday, 30 June 2023 16:57 (nine months ago) link
lets be real I think most dogs would probably win in a landslide right now
― frogbs, Friday, 30 June 2023 17:05 (nine months ago) link
Eminem vs 2 loud-assed, motherfuckin' barking dogs 2028
― sad Mings of dynasty (Neanderthal), Friday, 30 June 2023 17:07 (nine months ago) link
but yeah I think you're right, that stuff does move the needle a little, particularly amongst a subset of middle/upper class Republicans who legitimately do not like Trump. I know some of these people and when they talk politics it really is always about boring local issues, like who should be paying for this sidewalk, whether or not the Olive Garden should be subsidized, why the "free market" will always be better than a centralized system, etc. etc. They do not give a shit about Hunter Biden or Bud Lite or "wokeness" or CRT or any of the other shit Ron DeSantis constantly talks about. they really dislike violent protests but that's as far as they go in that direction. I really do think some of them are flippable, I know because I happen to know a few who actually did vote Biden, mostly because they think Trump is really bad for conservatism in general.
that said I think it's true that your average Trump voter is just someone whose life isn't great, who is probably working their ass off just to get by, who doesn't really give a shit about politics other than the fact that everyone is screwing them, so when they do consume any political media they're led directly to FOX News or Joe Rogan or Ben Shapiro or anyone else who will talk to them like they're a child, who insist that everything sucks but it could get better if only we elimainate wokeness or whatever. it doesn't make sense but it doesn't have to. when people like Rex Tillerson say Trump's an idiot, they think "if he's an idiot than I'm an idiot too, and I'm no idiot. You're the idiot."
― frogbs, Friday, 30 June 2023 17:15 (nine months ago) link
If Trump can be said to have a talent, it surely is convincing those people that he is one of them, and not one of the Rex Tillersons of the world. Which, truth to be told, he really would be if not for his father's money.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 30 June 2023 17:17 (nine months ago) link
frogbs otm except about their money. I walk among Cuban McMansions with Trump or DeSantis signs every morning
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 30 June 2023 17:21 (nine months ago) link
A sense of aggrievement is universal
multi-xps if I had to put it in a nutshell, I'd say reactionaries fear anything unfamiliar or difficult to understand, modern life is inherently complex and difficult to understand, fascism promises to control that complexity by violently suppressing or removing whatever provokes those fears, while progressives attempt to explain why those fears are unnecessary - and fail because the explanations themselves are complex and difficult to understand.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 30 June 2023 17:22 (nine months ago) link
xp And Trump is a writhing mass of aggrievement, the filthy little climber.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 30 June 2023 17:22 (nine months ago) link
non-reactionaries need a far better model of the reactionary mind, as most Discourse on this shit doesn’t have an accurate idea what motivates voter behavior, or even voter whim
It begins with o and ends with s
The middle part is wnthelib
― pomplamoose and circumstance (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 30 June 2023 17:30 (nine months ago) link
It begins with o and ends with sThe middle part is wnthelib
Well yeah, _ressentiment_ is certainly a core part much of it, but it doesn’t explain why some would go for DeSantis and some for Trump. And how many people are just regular GOP voters out of some vaguely understood habit of voting GOP because that’s what they’ve done for decades.
― Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Friday, 30 June 2023 17:46 (nine months ago) link
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, June 30, 2023 12:21 PM (forty-four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
sure but the dynamic going on with Cubans in Florida is a very different thing entirely, idk if I understand it really but I've heard they really do push the "everything left of George W Bush is COMMUNISM!!" angle hard
― frogbs, Friday, 30 June 2023 18:12 (nine months ago) link
I've worked some blue collar jobs and it did occur to me that you could accurately predict who was left or right leaning based on the amount of shit they gave you if you slacked off/came a few minutes late/didn't hit your target. some people were like "this job sucks" and others were like "my coworkers suck" and its the people in the latter category who always seemed to be particularly upset about Barrack Obama
― frogbs, Friday, 30 June 2023 18:15 (nine months ago) link
sure! I'm just reminding of you of the difference!
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 30 June 2023 18:15 (nine months ago) link
i.e. rich people like Trump
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 30 June 2023 18:16 (nine months ago) link
Biden communist About 12,100,000 results (0.44 seconds) xpost to frogs
― Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Friday, 30 June 2023 18:17 (nine months ago) link
I mean, I think Dem = Communist is hardwired into conservative rhetoric now
― Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Friday, 30 June 2023 18:18 (nine months ago) link
74 million people voted for trump. I'm not sure outlining the psychology of the "average trump voter" is anything more than solipsistic fantasizing.
OTOH, Arlie Hochschild's Strangers in Their Own Land attempts to explain the specific resentment of benefits/entitlements that both frogbs and Alfred mentioned and her main points are fairly solid. But it is imo pretty flawed; most unforgivably, she simply takes her white xtian GOP louisianan interlocutors' word for it that they aren't motivated by racism
― rob, Friday, 30 June 2023 18:23 (nine months ago) link
Dem = Communist is hardwired into conservative rhetoric now
The irony is that so many of the FDR policies that are now considered 'communist' (social security, new deal, WPA etc.) were promoted explicitly to avoid communism which was much more of a threat in the 1930's than it is now
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 30 June 2023 18:35 (nine months ago) link
somehow the overwhelming irony of so much of US politics never seems to make any difference to how people vote
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 30 June 2023 19:48 (nine months ago) link
Ironocracy
― pomplamoose and circumstance (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 30 June 2023 19:51 (nine months ago) link
Always nice to see it made explicit
Donald Trump says he's a target of special counsel's criminal probe into 2020 election aftermath | CNN Politics https://t.co/AWXSCayEfL— Manu Raju (@mkraju) July 18, 2023
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 18 July 2023 13:46 (nine months ago) link
countdown to post saying this doesn't mean anything and he'll never be indicted in 3,2...
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Tuesday, 18 July 2023 13:51 (nine months ago) link
For those who don't want to go to the other failing social media site owned by a fascist. pic.twitter.com/3F0nah2bqR— emptywheel (@emptywheel) July 18, 2023
― serving aunt (stevie), Tuesday, 18 July 2023 13:52 (nine months ago) link
At this point the numbers are getting kind of abstract. 34 indictments in NYC, 37 in Florida, that's 71 indictments, with more in the way, apparently re: Jan. 6 and, one presumes, in Georgia. Plus whatever other ongoing Sword of Damocles stuff we've forgotten about.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 18 July 2023 13:56 (nine months ago) link
At what point does the party cut him loose? Never?
― serving aunt (stevie), Tuesday, 18 July 2023 13:57 (nine months ago) link
Only when he hits a million indictments.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 18 July 2023 13:58 (nine months ago) link
If he loses again and takes out down ticket Rs, I don't see them nominating him for 2028, but he is a lock for 2024.
― il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Tuesday, 18 July 2023 14:00 (nine months ago) link
They can't nominate him in 2028 unless they're explicit about ignoring the Constitution (which, you know).
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 18 July 2023 14:05 (nine months ago) link
I think they can if he loses in 2024.
― hardcore technician gimmicks are also another popular choice f (President Keyes), Tuesday, 18 July 2023 14:10 (nine months ago) link
of course at that point he'd be 82.
― hardcore technician gimmicks are also another popular choice f (President Keyes), Tuesday, 18 July 2023 14:11 (nine months ago) link
― Gerard Grisey Funk (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 18 July 2023 14:23 (nine months ago) link
no because he'll be dead
― linoleum gallagher (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 18 July 2023 14:53 (nine months ago) link
or we will
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 18 July 2023 14:55 (nine months ago) link
Choices choices
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 18 July 2023 14:57 (nine months ago) link
I generally wish for an Ariel Sharon situation with this guy, a long, long, LONG period of brain death that will keep his family and hangers-on distracted and infighting for many years.
― The Terroir of Tiny Town (WmC), Tuesday, 18 July 2023 15:00 (nine months ago) link
He would still get the nomination
― hardcore technician gimmicks are also another popular choice f (President Keyes), Tuesday, 18 July 2023 15:01 (nine months ago) link
He may even be more electable
― serving aunt (stevie), Tuesday, 18 July 2023 15:06 (nine months ago) link
Well, he'd be quiet. We'd only hear the gurgling from the machiens.
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 18 July 2023 15:07 (nine months ago) link
*machines.
"And a good day to you, sir!"
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 18 July 2023 15:37 (nine months ago) link
I've probably said this before but I'll say it again to get it on the record: when Trump caught COVID, I experienced a terrifying premonition of Ivanka in a tell-all interview tearing up while she talks about how hard it was seeing the entire estate sold off piece by piece to pay her father's creditors.
― The king of the demo (bernard snowy), Tuesday, 18 July 2023 15:40 (nine months ago) link
Terrifying? This sounds amazing.
― il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Tuesday, 18 July 2023 15:44 (nine months ago) link
Somebody got ketchup all over a Dead Sea Scroll
Ancient artefacts sent from Israel to the US four years ago on a short-term basis and intended for display at a White House event have ended up at Donald Trump’s Mar-a-Lago estate in Florida, according to a report.
― nashwan, Tuesday, 18 July 2023 16:34 (nine months ago) link
It is not clear how the artifacts ended up at Mar-a-Lago, or whether Trump is aware they are on the premises.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 18 July 2023 16:35 (nine months ago) link
This is straight out of a super villain origin story
― hardcore technician gimmicks are also another popular choice f (President Keyes), Tuesday, 18 July 2023 16:36 (nine months ago) link
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, July 18, 2023 8:56 AM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
🎶 On an award tour, with Mohammad my man 🎵
― The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 18 July 2023 16:47 (nine months ago) link
Ancient artefacts sent from Israel to the US four years ago on a short-term basis and intended for display at a White House event have ended up at Donald Trump’s Mar-a-Lago estate
Obligatory melting nazi jpg
https://th.bing.com/th/id/R.de8d747dee503e952bd120009a2606cd?rik=NJsyBGThX26uqw&riu=http%3a%2f%2fmedia.giphy.com%2fmedia%2fIvcwXzJ1HiTTi%2fgiphy-facebook_s.jpg&ehk=1KfSq8EFZCjfpLw62HIwKxT8zoGDaVqEP2gE7RePUgo%3d&risl=&pid=ImgRaw&r=0
― Exit, pursued by a beer (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 18 July 2023 17:08 (nine months ago) link
Lol Raymond
― linoleum gallagher (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 18 July 2023 17:14 (nine months ago) link
NEWS—A federal judge DENIES Trump’s motion for a new trial in the E. Jean Carroll case — and his request to reduce the $5 million verdict. pic.twitter.com/H8aRHuMWQA— Adam Klasfeld (@KlasfeldReports) July 19, 2023
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 19 July 2023 13:09 (nine months ago) link
One interesting thing Josh Marshall pointed out about the Jan. 6th case is that it is the one we know the least about in terms of evidence. We really don't know yet what kind of communication or coordination was going on behind the scenes. There's a real possibility it could implicate other politicians beyond just Trump. Obviously we'll have to see.
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Wednesday, 19 July 2023 13:14 (nine months ago) link
Happy to see shit piling up on him and making him squirm, but I still can't help but feel a little skeptical. Like Aileen Cannon seeming to signal during her questions yesterday that she's going to delay the classified documents trial until after the election.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 19 July 2023 14:55 (nine months ago) link
What did she say that seemed to signal that?
― The Terroir of Tiny Town (WmC), Wednesday, 19 July 2023 15:02 (nine months ago) link
A delay like that could definitely happen, that's not the only trial being lined up though.
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Wednesday, 19 July 2023 15:05 (nine months ago) link
https://news.yahoo.com/experts-jack-smith-latest-move-181707108.html
― linoleum gallagher (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 19 July 2023 15:09 (nine months ago) link
xpost - I can't find the article I read last night, but basically she kept framing her questions in a way that she thinks a trial this year is far too soon for such a complex case:
Cannon zeroed in on arguments that the “voluminous” discovery in the case meant that the trial likely could not start by the mid-December date proposed by the prosecutors.She had very granular questions for prosecutor Jay Bratt about the status of the production of discovery and the amount of evidence the defendants will have to sift through. She also grilled him on whether the cases that Smith’s team was pointing to as examples of similarly expedited trial schedules were truly comparable to the case that has been brought against Trump.In a back and forth with Harbach, Cannon described the discovery as “voluminous.” Pointing to the security footage that’s been turned over to the defense, Cannon noted to the prosecutors that the defense team will want to review more than just what the Smith team had identified as the key parts of the video evidence.
She had very granular questions for prosecutor Jay Bratt about the status of the production of discovery and the amount of evidence the defendants will have to sift through. She also grilled him on whether the cases that Smith’s team was pointing to as examples of similarly expedited trial schedules were truly comparable to the case that has been brought against Trump.
In a back and forth with Harbach, Cannon described the discovery as “voluminous.” Pointing to the security footage that’s been turned over to the defense, Cannon noted to the prosecutors that the defense team will want to review more than just what the Smith team had identified as the key parts of the video evidence.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 19 July 2023 15:13 (nine months ago) link
To be fair, she also apparently pushed back a little on Trump's team trying to delay it "forever", but she didn't seem sympathetic to a trial starting before 2024. We'll see.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 19 July 2023 15:15 (nine months ago) link
That is probably justified in a case involving classified documents. It's mind-boggling that the DOJ slow-walked everything relating to Trump's Presidency and brought its first case on stuff that happened a year or so after he left office. And is now signalling a Jan. 6 indictment 5.5 months before the primaries start. Way to run your own clock down.
― hardcore technician gimmicks are also another popular choice f (President Keyes), Wednesday, 19 July 2023 15:19 (nine months ago) link
Oh yeah, that has been frustrating as well. I also just am generally skeptical about a Trump appointed judge hearing this case anyway.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 19 July 2023 15:20 (nine months ago) link
I mean if they rushed proceedings before they have sufficient evidence, then they run of the risk of the case being too weak to win.
the goal of special prosecutors/et al in cases like these isn't to "do this all in time to stop Trump from running for office or significantly interfere with his ability to win" (that's OUR goal).
― linoleum gallagher (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 19 July 2023 15:22 (nine months ago) link
there's definitely been some chatter that DOJ purposefully slow rolled it
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Wednesday, 19 July 2023 15:24 (nine months ago) link
Jack Smith is running both of these cases, and he was appointed in November of 2022.
― hardcore technician gimmicks are also another popular choice f (President Keyes), Wednesday, 19 July 2023 15:26 (nine months ago) link
There's something like a million docs to review, many of them classified/sensitive, so in this case I can understand a delay, at least to some degree. There has been some chatter, though, that Smith may have also found evidence in Bedminster, which both makes sense and would allow him to bring charges in New Jersey, potentially circumventing/parallel to Judge Cannon, if necessary. Who knows.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 19 July 2023 15:35 (nine months ago) link
That’s because people are idiots don’t know the litigation process
― the new drip king (DJP), Wednesday, 19 July 2023 15:37 (nine months ago) link
My point being more that there's a wide window between the mid-December start that the DOJ asked for and November 2024 for the trial to start. I'm not throwing away the hope of consequences for it, just saying that the optics of a judge appointed by the defendant even appearing slightly sympathetic to the defense's desired timing for the case is mildly frustrating.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 19 July 2023 15:38 (nine months ago) link
A 2023 trial would be incredibly quick given the issues in the case. Chill.
― il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Wednesday, 19 July 2023 15:43 (nine months ago) link
Thanks for clearly not even reading my posts before telling me to chill.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 19 July 2023 15:44 (nine months ago) link
Interesting insights from @secretsandlaws.One takeaway I have from Cannon’s initial rulings — she is not doing anything incredibly stupid that will get overturned, like she did in the prior civil case.She has learned and is acting within the typical bounds for a trial judge. https://t.co/dnU4QKBbU9— Renato Mariotti (@renato_mariotti) July 19, 2023
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 19 July 2023 15:44 (nine months ago) link
Wasn't just directed at you, but you're welcome.
― il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Wednesday, 19 July 2023 16:00 (nine months ago) link
So she decided not to delay it beyond the election, but she kindly made sure it was past most of the important primaries and that the venue would make sure to draw a jury pool from prime MAGA country. I think a degree of skepticism is warranted.
The federal judge overseeing former President Donald J. Trump’s prosecution on charges of illegally retaining dozens of classified documents set a trial date on Friday for May 2024, taking a middle position between the government’s request to go to trial in December and Mr. Trump’s desire to push the proceeding until after the 2024 election.In her order, Judge Aileen M. Cannon said the trial was to be held in her home courthouse in Fort Pierce, Fla., a coastal city two-and-a-half hours north of Miami that will draw its jury pool from several counties that Mr. Trump won handily in his two previous presidential campaigns.Judge Cannon also laid out a calendar of hearings, throughout the remainder of this year and into next year, including those concerning the handling of the classified material at the heart of the case.The scheduling order came after a contentious hearing on Tuesday at the federal courthouse in Fort Pierce where prosecutors working for the special counsel, Jack Smith, and lawyers for Mr. Trump sparred over when to hold the trial.The timing of the proceeding is more important in this case than in most criminal matters because Mr. Trump is now the front-runner for the Republican presidential nomination and his legal obligations to be in court will intersect with his campaign schedule.Indeed, the date Judge Cannon chose to start the trial — May 20, 2024 — is one day before the primary in the key swing state of Georgia. But it falls after the bulk of the primary race contests will have already taken place.
In her order, Judge Aileen M. Cannon said the trial was to be held in her home courthouse in Fort Pierce, Fla., a coastal city two-and-a-half hours north of Miami that will draw its jury pool from several counties that Mr. Trump won handily in his two previous presidential campaigns.
Judge Cannon also laid out a calendar of hearings, throughout the remainder of this year and into next year, including those concerning the handling of the classified material at the heart of the case.
The scheduling order came after a contentious hearing on Tuesday at the federal courthouse in Fort Pierce where prosecutors working for the special counsel, Jack Smith, and lawyers for Mr. Trump sparred over when to hold the trial.
The timing of the proceeding is more important in this case than in most criminal matters because Mr. Trump is now the front-runner for the Republican presidential nomination and his legal obligations to be in court will intersect with his campaign schedule.
Indeed, the date Judge Cannon chose to start the trial — May 20, 2024 — is one day before the primary in the key swing state of Georgia. But it falls after the bulk of the primary race contests will have already taken place.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 21 July 2023 15:02 (eight months ago) link
TBF, this schedule was also dictated by his other court cases, including the criminal one in March. Also I suspect ending up in the jury pool and being pretty easily clocked as MAGA/Trump-can-do-no-wrong is an excellent way to get dumped during selection.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 21 July 2023 15:04 (eight months ago) link
as I understand it, this is not exactly a crazy amount of time to schedule the trial given the complexity of the case
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Friday, 21 July 2023 15:16 (eight months ago) link
BTW, what have this asshole's dum-dum kids been up to?
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 21 July 2023 15:17 (eight months ago) link
Ibdunno but one of them may have "accidentally" left cocaine in the White House but let's move on and not dwell on past indiscretions
― Exit, pursued by a beer (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 21 July 2023 15:20 (eight months ago) link
xpost Plausible deniability.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 21 July 2023 15:20 (eight months ago) link
his legal obligations to be in court will intersect with his campaign schedule.
I'm sure this has been pointed out elsewhere, but his schedule of "rallies" is meaningless. Anyone attending those shitshows is already voting for him. Be like Biden, win the election "from your basement."
― Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Friday, 21 July 2023 15:42 (eight months ago) link
the rallies used to get him media attention. Maybe they will again if he talks about his trial there.
― hardcore technician gimmicks are also another popular choice f (President Keyes), Friday, 21 July 2023 15:44 (eight months ago) link
The rallies will absolutely start to get him increased media attention again once the calendar flips to primary season.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 21 July 2023 15:53 (eight months ago) link
First and likely only appearance of "be like Biden" on Ile
(I agree, tho)
― Exit, pursued by a beer (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 21 July 2023 15:55 (eight months ago) link
I know MPR airs these pieces just to torment me, but yesterday I was listening to Young Republicans in Miami, mostly first time voters, who are ride or die Trump. It was all I could do to keep from intentionally driving off the road into a tree.
― Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Friday, 21 July 2023 16:40 (eight months ago) link
A Trump supporter across the street from me committed suicide last week. So we're one vote up.
― hardcore technician gimmicks are also another popular choice f (President Keyes), Friday, 21 July 2023 16:51 (eight months ago) link
weird bc a trump supporter across the street from my mom also committed suicide
― omar little, Friday, 21 July 2023 16:59 (eight months ago) link
Hi rallies next year are going to turn into late period Lenny Bruce shows.
― bookmarkflaglink (Darin), Friday, 21 July 2023 17:00 (eight months ago) link
"Suicide." Sure. It's all Hillary's doing.
― Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Friday, 21 July 2023 17:03 (eight months ago) link
Jack Smith's deep state hit squad
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Friday, 21 July 2023 17:05 (eight months ago) link
His rallies next year are going to turn into late period Lenny Bruce shows.
They already are! Or Jello going on about his obscenity trial
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 21 July 2023 17:07 (eight months ago) link
we're one vote up
More like 50 million if you believe this rather rosy article (gift link)
https://wapo.st/3pRUPs6
We have often had the discussion that demographics give Democrats false hope. And I don't necessarily wish to rehash that whole Peanuts football discussion.
Nevertheless it is true that 17-year-old people DO keep turning 18. And 80+ year old people DO keep dying.
Accordingly, there IS a possible future that contains a less old, less white, and less Christian electorate. I don't have a lot of certainty that this electorate will make the world better. Merely that it may help a bit.
― Exit, pursued by a beer (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 21 July 2023 18:21 (eight months ago) link
This long Politico piece touches on similar themes but narrows it to specific places where young voters are making a real difference.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Friday, 21 July 2023 18:28 (eight months ago) link
less old, less white, and less Christian electorate
the cities keep growing, and the north dakotas keep shrinking
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 21 July 2023 18:36 (eight months ago) link
'Americans need to see Trump as we see him here. We recognise him as a dishonest, untrustworthy, unreliable, tax-dodging imposter’
https://www.theguardian.com/culture/gallery/2023/jul/21/the-scottish-villagers-who-defied-donald-trump
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 21 July 2023 18:39 (eight months ago) link
Xp, Andy, you are right, of course.
But as long as the Electoral College and its close sibling, gerrymandering, exist? Someone in North Dakota still gets something like three to five times more voting power than someone in New Jersey.
That sucks, but the disparity is structural in nature. Hence, it probably should be addressed structurally.
However, a realist would suggest that the required structural solution is unrealistic. So we are where we are.
― Exit, pursued by a beer (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 21 July 2023 18:47 (eight months ago) link
Someone in North Dakota still gets something like three to five times more voting power than someone in New Jersey.
That's where the Gen Z'ers who can't afford to live in the expensive states moving to the cheap ones comes into play
― fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Friday, 21 July 2023 18:58 (eight months ago) link
(Which, if anything, is what I think might be the REAL real motivator behind some of the most hateful social-issues laws being fast-tracked in them.)
― fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Friday, 21 July 2023 18:59 (eight months ago) link
Even though Trump won North Dakota 65% to 32% you could take all 235,000 of his voters there and fit them into a suburb outside of an east coast city.
― hardcore technician gimmicks are also another popular choice f (President Keyes), Friday, 21 July 2023 19:08 (eight months ago) link
...where they would be miserable and never shut up about it
― Exit, pursued by a beer (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 21 July 2023 19:36 (eight months ago) link
Unfortunately, by the same token middle-aged people keep getting older and turning more conservative, and so the churn continues.
― I fell asleep at kabuki (Matt #2), Friday, 21 July 2023 20:04 (eight months ago) link
by the same token middle-aged people keep getting older and turning more conservative, and so the churn continues
This feels less inevitable lately, though, because it was part of a larger process:
reach middle age -> have "good job" -> achieve material comfort/financial security -> turn conservative
Now that those two middle steps are gone for a lot of people, I think the last part is less of a guarantee.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Friday, 21 July 2023 20:07 (eight months ago) link
80 year olds were 24 in the Summer of Love.
― hardcore technician gimmicks are also another popular choice f (President Keyes), Friday, 21 July 2023 20:07 (eight months ago) link
The first Velvet Underground album only sold 10,000 copies, but everyone who bought it is on Social Security.
― hardcore technician gimmicks are also another popular choice f (President Keyes), Friday, 21 July 2023 20:11 (eight months ago) link
Someone woke up extra catty today!
The DeSanctimonious Polls are crashing because of his stance on Obliterating Social Security and Medicare! Nothing he will ever do is going to change his votes against. Attracting small crowds that leave really early, that's never a good sign! pic.twitter.com/b5mBwvcY4N— Trump War Room (@TrumpWarRoom) July 21, 2023
― bookmarkflaglink (Darin), Friday, 21 July 2023 20:13 (eight months ago) link
A few xps but: My mother turned 80 a month ago.
She is adamant about NOT being a Baby Boomer (born in 1943, so a "war baby"). Also adamant about having been too old to be a Woodstockian hippie. She's okay with Beatnik and bohemian labels, though.
I am very much not a guardian of generational labels but the sentiments are out there.
― Exit, pursued by a beer (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 21 July 2023 20:20 (eight months ago) link
My stepmom was a Barry Goldwater supporter, and if not an actual John Birch Society member, that's where she was during the Kennedy years
Now she absolutely despises Trump and his stans, breaks up with friends on FB over it, and claims to be a pagan but I think that just means she just likes gardening a lot
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 21 July 2023 20:24 (eight months ago) link
Oh yeah, a lot of 80 year olds are in the category of people who liked the Beatles until they got weird.
― hardcore technician gimmicks are also another popular choice f (President Keyes), Friday, 21 July 2023 20:27 (eight months ago) link
To be fair the Beatles did get weird.
― Exit, pursued by a beer (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 21 July 2023 20:33 (eight months ago) link
Especially the Traveling Wilburys
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 21 July 2023 20:38 (eight months ago) link
xp to YMP yeah, that's my mom as well, down to the birth year. She watches MSNBC daily and would sooner vote for a dented can of creamed corn than for Trump, or any other Republican.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 21 July 2023 20:52 (eight months ago) link
My mom hates Trump and tuned out after Rubber Soul so ymmv.
― bookmarkflaglink (Darin), Friday, 21 July 2023 21:15 (eight months ago) link
That's super weird, Rubber Soul may be Trump's best record.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 21 July 2023 21:51 (eight months ago) link
My mom prefers Motown, which makes sense, as she grew up near Detroit. The Supremes played at her high school once.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 21 July 2023 21:52 (eight months ago) link
And what is Trump's "New Jersey"
― symsymsym, Friday, 21 July 2023 22:52 (eight months ago) link
Eric, probably.
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 21 July 2023 23:46 (eight months ago) link
I grew up in a home where religion was discussed more than politics. My parents (Missouri Synod Lutheran) cared more about Billy Graham than whoever was president. Imagine my surprise, given how the GOP has completely kowtowed to the religious right, to find that my parents have never voted Republican. They’re 91, loathe Trump, and their views on gay marriage, abortion, and racial issues are quite progressive.
― Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Saturday, 22 July 2023 01:12 (eight months ago) link
bring it
Fulton county prosecutors prepare racketeering charges in Trump inquiry
― out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Saturday, 22 July 2023 03:25 (eight months ago) link
Re: Dan
I, who hail from a family that despises organized religion, stupidly attended a (now shuttered!) Missouri-Synod Lutheran middle school, which was my first exposure EVER to people who don’t accept evolutionary biology. I have to say that they weren’t *quite* as antisemitic as the Baptists I later encountered, but goodness do they think that Catholics are all bound for hell
― beamish13, Saturday, 22 July 2023 03:29 (eight months ago) link
Re: Trump I am reasonably pleased about charges and indictments and lawsuits and such. But it would be really nice to see some muthaflippin _consequences_ falling on his weirdly orange head. I am not impressed by the idea of him being "in legal peril"; as far as I can tell he has been "in legal peril" for half of my life. It keeps not turning into imprisonment and disgrace. It's just more cloudy murk of motions and depositions and procedural decisions and such.
I sometimes wish I could just go to bed for a few months and have someone wake me when Trump is actually, visibly, undeniably suffering.
― Some people call me Maurice Chevalier (Ye Mad Puffin), Saturday, 22 July 2023 03:37 (eight months ago) link
lol yes re: Catholics!
― Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Saturday, 22 July 2023 03:46 (eight months ago) link
― Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Saturday, 22 July 2023 03:47 (eight months ago) link
the fighting between the different Protestant denominations in the 70s/80s Midwest always took a back seat to the claim there are Christians and there are Catholics and those are two distinctly different groups
there are still outliers who haven’t died off but what a different time
― mh, Saturday, 22 July 2023 14:19 (eight months ago) link
My Unitarian grandparents were livid when my father married my mom, a Polish Catholic immigrant, in 1978. Still boggles my mind that people cared about such bullshit.
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Saturday, 22 July 2023 16:50 (eight months ago) link
Wow, I thought all Unitarians were real woo-woo "not all who wander are lost" polyglot types.
― Gerard Grisey Funk (Boring, Maryland), Saturday, 22 July 2023 17:07 (eight months ago) link
Table/Boring: It's complicated! In the 16th century, Unitarianism was a Christian sect with a decently solid base in central and eastern Europe, particularly Translyvania (insert vampire joke here). "Unitarian" mostly meant opposition to the idea of the trinity. In the 18th century this anti-trinitarian theology got some traction in New England. Universalism was a slightly different American Christian sect from the 18th century. But close enough for comfort.
Current Unitarian Universalism dates from 1961 and is famously creedless and "chosen" (as opposed to "imposed"). Yes, there is a strong smell of woo-woo, as Boring notes. A lot of hippies who have lost their birth faith but still like going to church. Expect to see a lot of vegetarian Democrats who wear chunky sweaters and have a wooden canoe and donate to NPR.
But there is still wide variance. Every UU congregation is its own thing. Some are high church, with choirs and God. Others are like a frickin geodesic dome where everybody's an atheist and they only want to talk about Einstein and Emma Goldman.
This is the only religious tradition that fails to completely piss me off 100% of time. Nowadays it only pisses me off 97% if the time. (see above, NPR and canoes)
― Some people call me Maurice Chevalier (Ye Mad Puffin), Saturday, 22 July 2023 17:32 (eight months ago) link
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Saturday, 22 July 2023 17:47 (eight months ago) link
p.s. Interestingly, my childhood Unitarian church was the one T.S. Eliot went to (founded by his grandfather; there is still a big mural of his face there). As soon as Eliot (the poet) could, he went for more restriction rather than less. Monarchist, Anglo-Catholic, conservative.
He wrote some good lines but... if I could get that stodgy prick into a time machine, I would take him to his childhood church and rub his nose in the pride flags and the Black Lives Matter signs. Dude needed to loosen up.
― Some people call me Maurice Chevalier (Ye Mad Puffin), Saturday, 22 July 2023 17:49 (eight months ago) link
we might disagree there, but ymmv
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Saturday, 22 July 2023 17:50 (eight months ago) link
hang on was someone suggesting upthread the white house coke was junior's?
― serving aunt (stevie), Monday, 24 July 2023 16:21 (eight months ago) link
If it was found in the White House I think that makes it the People's Coke.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 24 July 2023 16:24 (eight months ago) link
Don Jr. has been loudly denying that he does coke. Which is a bit odd.
― hardcore technician gimmicks are also another popular choice f (President Keyes), Monday, 24 July 2023 16:27 (eight months ago) link
I mean if a cokehead were to deny they do coke I guess they would do it loudly
― serving aunt (stevie), Monday, 24 July 2023 16:28 (eight months ago) link
and sweatily
― hardcore technician gimmicks are also another popular choice f (President Keyes), Monday, 24 July 2023 16:31 (eight months ago) link
"Never change your name in the middle of a campaign"
― the pinefox, Tuesday, 25 July 2023 10:31 (eight months ago) link
NEW: Potential charges in Trump-Georgia probe, per ppl familiar— solicitation to commit election fraud— conspiracy to commit election fraud— solicitation of a public officer to fail to perform duties— solicitation to destroy ballots@guardian exclusive https://t.co/8qPQ7usAgU— Hugo Lowell (@hugolowell) July 25, 2023
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 25 July 2023 20:07 (eight months ago) link
Pew research found that 63% of Americans of all political affiliations have an unfavorable opinion of Trump – an increase from 60% last year.
of course, both Biden & Harris are polling pretty low as well.. so he might get the nomination, but it seems like even a reasonably well-behaved sea lion could beat him in the general
― Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 25 July 2023 23:02 (eight months ago) link
the problem with dismissing Trump's chances based on a number that aggregates all voters into one national lump is the fucking electoral college, which has been the perennial problem with electing presidents for the past several decades. he's wildly popular in all the extremely rural states with outsized effects in the general election.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 25 July 2023 23:20 (eight months ago) link
If/when a GOP candidate wins the popular and loses the electoral, only then will it be an issue
No other country in the world does this shit, no state, no county, nowhere
― Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 25 July 2023 23:25 (eight months ago) link
American exceptionalism iirc
― assert (matttkkkk), Tuesday, 25 July 2023 23:27 (eight months ago) link
Yeah well think of the feelings of the electoral collegians for once why doncha
― toenail fungus (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 26 July 2023 12:04 (eight months ago) link
idk 63% unfavorable is really really bad for a presidential candidate, IIRC he was at something like 57% in 2020 and still lost pretty badly. can't imagine new sets of criminal charges and having this guy constantly back on TV again is gonna make anyone like him *more*
― frogbs, Wednesday, 26 July 2023 13:13 (eight months ago) link
Andy, the GW Bush campaign was expecting to win the popular vote but lose in the EC, they had a legal strategy lined up already to challenge the results, and had a PR strategy to discredit the EC.
― Moritz von Oswald von Wolkenstein (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 26 July 2023 14:23 (eight months ago) link
what's really going to doom DeSantis now is that, like Trump, he was faring well in head to head election polls with Biden, but his numbers have slipped significantly, with three of the last five polls having Biden with a margin of 4 points or better.
Trump himself has slid in the same head to head polls, though not quite as much, and considering the lack of enthusiasm for DeSantis, you'd look to some other factor to make his case.
Most of the poll shifting seems to be undecideds deciding, and obviously polls this far out with the Republican party not having an official nominee are meant to be taken with a grain of salt, but the negativity amongst both candidates seems to have a tangible impact now.
― linoleum gallagher (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 26 July 2023 14:28 (eight months ago) link
Polls this far out are gross indicators at best.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 26 July 2023 17:36 (eight months ago) link
Trump is pretty gross
― linoleum gallagher (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 26 July 2023 17:38 (eight months ago) link
Here we go again
BREAKING: Two sources with direct knowledge of the situation tells NBC News that Trump attorneys Todd Blanche and John Lauro are meeting with prosecutors in the Special Counsel's office in Washington and have been told to expect an indictment against Donald Trump. @MSNBC— Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) July 27, 2023
― hardcore technician gimmicks are also another popular choice f (President Keyes), Thursday, 27 July 2023 15:26 (eight months ago) link
Here's why it looks bad for President Biden.
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 27 July 2023 15:27 (eight months ago) link
lol Alfred
― J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Thursday, 27 July 2023 15:55 (eight months ago) link
― out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Thursday, 27 July 2023 15:55 (eight months ago) link
guy is piling up a lot of charges
― lag∞n, Thursday, 27 July 2023 17:34 (eight months ago) link
a double header?
Barricades erected outside the Fulton County courthouse now. Looks like preparation for some big legal news… pic.twitter.com/3QOccQOMnf— Charles Bethea (@charlesbethea) July 27, 2023
― hardcore technician gimmicks are also another popular choice f (President Keyes), Thursday, 27 July 2023 17:43 (eight months ago) link
Build the wall! Build the wall!
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 27 July 2023 17:56 (eight months ago) link
It's just a shame that a full two years after Jan 6, we only have 1,734 indictments.
― linoleum gallagher (Neanderthal), Thursday, 27 July 2023 18:30 (eight months ago) link
we need hundreds of millions of indictments
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Thursday, 27 July 2023 18:58 (eight months ago) link
I could have sworn I heard am interview with prosecutors that said, after a very brief lull several months ago, that there could be another thousand on the way.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 27 July 2023 19:46 (eight months ago) link
I wonder if anyone from a small town will come to Atlanta to Try That
― c u (crüt), Thursday, 27 July 2023 20:18 (eight months ago) link
It would be cool if a small town indicted Trump too.
― hardcore technician gimmicks are also another popular choice f (President Keyes), Thursday, 27 July 2023 20:20 (eight months ago) link
I was indicted in a small town
― linoleum gallagher (Neanderthal), Thursday, 27 July 2023 20:31 (eight months ago) link
son take a good look around
― Some people call me Maurice Chevalier (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 27 July 2023 20:46 (eight months ago) link
Met an N.Y. Don and brought him to this small townNow he's small town just like me
― hardcore technician gimmicks are also another popular choice f (President Keyes), Thursday, 27 July 2023 20:57 (eight months ago) link
just a small town girllivin' in a racist world
― Some people call me Maurice Chevalier (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 27 July 2023 21:07 (eight months ago) link
I guess the long-term play for DeSantis right now is to hope that all this stuff does make Trump look less and less electable, so that if the Trump fever ever breaks Dr. Ron is right there. It's just so hard to imagine that really happening.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 27 July 2023 21:44 (eight months ago) link
And of course DeSantis can't be too brazen about trying to capitalize on any of it. Like, you would think that your opponent facing multiple criminal indictments in multiple jurisdictions would be the most obvious attack point. But apart from Asa Hutchison none of them want to do that. What an insane time.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 27 July 2023 21:46 (eight months ago) link
BREAKING: A superseding indictment has been filed with new charges against Donald Trump.— Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) July 27, 2023
Justice Department: The superseding indictment also charges Trump, De Oliveira and Nauta with two new obstruction counts based on allegations that the defendants attempted to delete surveillance video footage at The Mar-a-Lago Club in summer 2022.— Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) July 27, 2023
are we led to believe that they tried and failed to delete the footage
― lag∞n, Thursday, 27 July 2023 22:35 (eight months ago) link
Indicted on charges of bumbling
― epistantophus, Thursday, 27 July 2023 22:37 (eight months ago) link
Well the good news is Byron Donalds is Donald's Byron.
What's crazy to me is I expressed support for the vast majority of the new African American history standards and happened to oppose one sentence that seemed to dignify the skills gained by slaves as a result of their enslavement.Anyone who can't accurately interpret what I… https://t.co/b6hqaSJtlp— Byron Donalds (@ByronDonalds) July 27, 2023
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 27 July 2023 22:42 (eight months ago) link
yeah thats crazy man who wouldve thought that the scorpions would react that way
― lag∞n, Thursday, 27 July 2023 22:46 (eight months ago) link
Shocked to find racists under these hoods
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 27 July 2023 22:48 (eight months ago) link
Waiting for Trump to be indicted again for trying to delete his demand that the security footage be deleted.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 27 July 2023 22:50 (eight months ago) link
Go to hell, you cowardly turd
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 27 July 2023 22:50 (eight months ago) link
Indictment Days Are The New Infrastructure Weeks
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 27 July 2023 23:24 (eight months ago) link
I’m so indicted! And I jus
did we already do that at some point? probably
― epistantophus, Thursday, 27 July 2023 23:56 (eight months ago) link
One of the new charges against Trump is that he willfully retained a top-secret document about Iran attack plans, which he discussed with biographers during a taped meeting at Bedminster. The charging document doesn't name the country, but Trump allies, and Trump himself even,…— Kaitlan Collins (@kaitlancollins) July 27, 2023
― lag∞n, Friday, 28 July 2023 00:28 (eight months ago) link
Tipsy, Desantis is relatively young and has time. He can wait for another cycle or two (as Biden did).
― Some people call me Maurice Chevalier (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 28 July 2023 00:38 (eight months ago) link
Or he can die in a fire
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 28 July 2023 00:59 (eight months ago) link
Alfred: yes, preferable.
― Some people call me Maurice Chevalier (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 28 July 2023 01:01 (eight months ago) link
I can't imagine him getting any less repellent than he is now.
― nickn, Friday, 28 July 2023 01:01 (eight months ago) link
Maybe he will catch Woke
― hardcore technician gimmicks are also another popular choice f (President Keyes), Friday, 28 July 2023 01:26 (eight months ago) link
From a Woketopus Teacher
― Some people call me Maurice Chevalier (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 28 July 2023 01:52 (eight months ago) link
This also suggests that, as in other legal matters, Trump is making his attorneys take absurd positions that will just make them look bad in the front of the judge. It's one thing to do that in a civil case, but in a criminal case, you might want to listen to your attorneys. https://t.co/MTKGP0wxfg— Secrets and Laws (@secretsandlaws) July 27, 2023
imho this is him testing Cannon— southpaw (@nycsouthpaw) July 27, 2023
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 28 July 2023 03:01 (eight months ago) link
DOJ: "There is no basis for the defendant’s request ... and it is particularly striking that he seeks permission to do so in the very location at which he is charged with willfully retaining the documents charged in this case"Trump response due 8/9. https://t.co/OP0CTK4nGn— Zoe Tillman (@ZoeTillman) July 28, 2023
whoa it’s like he dngaf!me: he cannot afford to do. and… it might work, i guess. not that i can imagine that.
― toenail fungus (Hunt3r), Friday, 28 July 2023 03:24 (eight months ago) link
Discovery of deleted Mar-a-Lago surveillance video casts a shadow over the Biden White House.— New York Times Pitchbot (@DougJBalloon) July 28, 2023
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 28 July 2023 14:17 (eight months ago) link
― linoleum gallagher (Neanderthal), Friday, 28 July 2023 14:21 (eight months ago) link
the video was of Hunter spilling coke on the documents
― hardcore technician gimmicks are also another popular choice f (President Keyes), Friday, 28 July 2023 14:25 (eight months ago) link
The expanded indictment against Trump includes a detailed and incredibly damning articulation of how his team allegedly tried to bury security footage. I walked through it. https://t.co/E2GA0ZMm7B— Philip Bump (@pbump) July 28, 2023
We now come to one of the most intriguing new parts of the indictment.“Between 1:31 p.m. and 1:50 p.m., DE OLIVEIRA walked through the bushes on the northern edge of The Mar-a-Lago Club property to meet with NAUTA on the adjacent property,” the indictment alleges, “then walked back to the IT office that he had visited that morning; and then walked again through the bushes on the northern edge of The Mar-a-Lago Club property to meet with NAUTA on the adjacent property.”There are a few possible reasons for this weird (alleged) interaction. One is that Nauta was engaged in some activity off the Mar-a-Lago grounds and simply couldn’t come closer to De Oliveira. Another is that Nauta didn’t want to been recorded as having visited Mar-a-Lago that day, either by Secret Service or other employees. Another is that Nauta and De Oliveira — by now very aware that the federal government was interested in movements at the facility — were eager not to be observed. Remember that De Oliveira’s conversation with the IT staffer took place not in the staffer’s office or a hallway but, instead, in a small nearby room.That people can gain access to Mar-a-Lago by slipping through the bushes is, of course, a subject that probably deserves more consideration, too.
“Between 1:31 p.m. and 1:50 p.m., DE OLIVEIRA walked through the bushes on the northern edge of The Mar-a-Lago Club property to meet with NAUTA on the adjacent property,” the indictment alleges, “then walked back to the IT office that he had visited that morning; and then walked again through the bushes on the northern edge of The Mar-a-Lago Club property to meet with NAUTA on the adjacent property.”
There are a few possible reasons for this weird (alleged) interaction. One is that Nauta was engaged in some activity off the Mar-a-Lago grounds and simply couldn’t come closer to De Oliveira. Another is that Nauta didn’t want to been recorded as having visited Mar-a-Lago that day, either by Secret Service or other employees. Another is that Nauta and De Oliveira — by now very aware that the federal government was interested in movements at the facility — were eager not to be observed. Remember that De Oliveira’s conversation with the IT staffer took place not in the staffer’s office or a hallway but, instead, in a small nearby room.
That people can gain access to Mar-a-Lago by slipping through the bushes is, of course, a subject that probably deserves more consideration, too.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 28 July 2023 15:02 (eight months ago) link
why did Hunter spill coke on the docs?No one can read with coke on the docsAfter a while, we learn from our talksHe did itCos we said "no"
― linoleum gallagher (Neanderthal), Friday, 28 July 2023 15:07 (eight months ago) link
In October of last year, the room were the surveillance footage was stored on a server was flooded as the nearby pool was being drained. This was likely after the subpoenaed footage had been turned over to investigators and it doesn’t appear that the server was damaged...the staffer responsible for draining the pool and accidentally flooding the room was none other than Carlos De Oliveira.
This part reminds me of that commercial where the woman tries to trash her ex's beloved SUV by having it pushed off a cliff, but of course the thing rolls over and over and emerges from a cloud of dust unscathed, to the woman's anguished chagrin.
― henry s, Friday, 28 July 2023 15:22 (eight months ago) link
by the way, "the room were the surveillance footage was stored", "didn't want to been recorded"...does WaPo even read these things before they post them?
― henry s, Friday, 28 July 2023 15:25 (eight months ago) link
If I could have chosen my own name, it would have been "Philip Bump."
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 28 July 2023 15:26 (eight months ago) link
The Room Were It Happend
― hardcore technician gimmicks are also another popular choice f (President Keyes), Friday, 28 July 2023 15:27 (eight months ago) link
Night of the Hunter Biden
― Some people call me Maurice Chevalier (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 28 July 2023 18:00 (eight months ago) link
On one hand he has the letters L-O-V-E tattooed.
On the other C-O-K-E.
― hardcore technician gimmicks are also another popular choice f (President Keyes), Friday, 28 July 2023 18:11 (eight months ago) link
Would love to see the MAGA crowd turn on Trump the way the angry mob turned on Robert Mitchum. Bluebeard! Hisss! Bluebeard!
― henry s, Friday, 28 July 2023 19:30 (eight months ago) link
I'd like it to be more like the end of Death of Stalin, including the pig roast at the end.
― Moritz von Oswald von Wolkenstein (Boring, Maryland), Friday, 28 July 2023 22:47 (eight months ago) link
Ah yes
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/donald-trump-jan6-jack-smith-rudy-giuliani-john-eastman-1234798826/
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 1 August 2023 18:18 (eight months ago) link
clearly not his fault, it's just a wild coincidence that every single lawyer he ever hired gave him bad advice
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Tuesday, 1 August 2023 18:28 (eight months ago) link
Love 2 see Trump's new lawyers lining up to be thrown under the bus in the future by Trump's new new lawyers
― Prop Dramedy (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 1 August 2023 18:34 (eight months ago) link
Something's up?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUQQDwsXsA0
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 1 August 2023 21:00 (eight months ago) link
Jack Smith is about to announce a stadium tour.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 1 August 2023 21:01 (eight months ago) link
Steve Bannon suggested Sunday that a presidential ticket with former President Trump (R) as president and Robert F. Kennedy Jr. (D) as vice president could result in “a massive landslide.”
And it's just weird enough that it might become a reality
― Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 1 August 2023 21:04 (eight months ago) link
The spectacle of MAGA-on-MAGA violence is too good not to post.
https://www.rawstory.com/donald-trump-supporters-2662573161/
“Tensions flared…with pro-Trump protesters denouncing the move (to change the delegate-selection process), police getting called and two factions nearly coming to fisticuffs,” the report said.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 1 August 2023 21:06 (eight months ago) link
Fisticuffs!
a massive landslide like a deadly earthquake that ends civilization, sure
― linoleum gallagher (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 1 August 2023 21:09 (eight months ago) link
UPDATE: It’s happening. Prosecutors have entered the courtroom and a new “grand jury returns” has been added to the docket.— Kyle Cheney (@kyledcheney) August 1, 2023
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 1 August 2023 21:10 (eight months ago) link
Court is now closed. We may have to wait for Trump to get the summons and hop on Truth Social to learn what happened.— Kyle Cheney (@kyledcheney) August 1, 2023
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 1 August 2023 21:14 (eight months ago) link
_Steve Bannon suggested Sunday that a presidential ticket with former President Trump (R) as president and Robert F. Kennedy Jr. (D) as vice president could result in “a massive landslide.” _And it's just weird enough that it might become a reality
― Moritz von Oswald von Wolkenstein (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 1 August 2023 21:20 (eight months ago) link
Former President Donald Trump has been informed he has been indicted, a source says.
That source? John Barron.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 1 August 2023 21:34 (eight months ago) link
Breaking: Trump has been indicted — https://t.co/prZhOLzl1v pic.twitter.com/lPA9ys6Yai— Hugo Lowell (@hugolowell) August 1, 2023
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 1 August 2023 21:36 (eight months ago) link
because he's once...twice...three timmmmmmes indicted
― henry s, Tuesday, 1 August 2023 21:36 (eight months ago) link
If you'd like some reading material
https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.258149/gov.uscourts.dcd.258149.1.0_1.pdf
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 1 August 2023 21:39 (eight months ago) link
the big one...for overturning the election. or trying to.
― linoleum gallagher (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 1 August 2023 21:43 (eight months ago) link
i already told my FB friends that "who cares nothing will happen" posts will be deleted on site. let's do this
Are you allowed to run for president if you're in jail?
― the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 1 August 2023 21:45 (eight months ago) link
yes
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Tuesday, 1 August 2023 21:45 (eight months ago) link
It's not only allowed, it's encouraged.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 1 August 2023 21:45 (eight months ago) link
But ex-cons aren't allowed to vote?
― the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 1 August 2023 21:46 (eight months ago) link
gonna be the first President to conduct a meeting with heads of state while shitting in an open cell
― linoleum gallagher (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 1 August 2023 21:46 (eight months ago) link
"I don't want a max prison, I want SUPERmax, I demand it!"
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 1 August 2023 21:47 (eight months ago) link
Apparently Rudy also has a minor role as "indicted co-conspirator 1."
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 1 August 2023 21:47 (eight months ago) link
― the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length)
depends on the state
― out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Tuesday, 1 August 2023 21:48 (eight months ago) link
Most states deprive convicted felons of many of their civil rights, including the right to vote. These rights are usually restored upon release, unless you have the misfortune to live in a state like Florida, which in an example of its endless fuckery won't restore them until the felon pays court costs, restitution, etc.
A felony conviction is no bar to running for President of the United States. The Senate could have convicted Trump in the second impeachment and prohibited from ever running for federal office again. Short of that, he'd have to be found to have engaged in rebellion.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 1 August 2023 21:48 (eight months ago) link
that's the trick, you have to stay convicted, then you can do whatever you want. once you stop being convicted is the problem
― linoleum gallagher (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 1 August 2023 21:53 (eight months ago) link
John Eastman as well... he was the architect of the 'bully Pence' theory
― Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 1 August 2023 21:55 (eight months ago) link
thats just common sense tho
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 1 August 2023 21:56 (eight months ago) link
"You're too honest."— What Trump told Pence on Jan. 1, after the then-VP said he had no constitutional authority to reject or return votes to the states, according to the indictment. https://t.co/zqADs0guFJ pic.twitter.com/swWZ9uWG9G— Adam Klasfeld (@KlasfeldReports) August 1, 2023
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 1 August 2023 22:02 (eight months ago) link
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F2UxuJxWEAIi7sU?format=jpg&name=medium
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 1 August 2023 22:06 (eight months ago) link
feeling happy for the eric clapton looking liberal guy again.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 1 August 2023 22:08 (eight months ago) link
As a west coaster, Rehoboth Beach sounds very Lovecraftian to me
― Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 1 August 2023 22:10 (eight months ago) link
He is truly fucked...unless he wins the next election.
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 1 August 2023 22:14 (eight months ago) link
Jack Smith speaks:
Smith: The attack on our nation's capital on January 6th was an unprecedented assault on the seat of American democracy. It's described in the indictment. It was fueled by lies. Lies by the defendant, targeted at obstructing a bedrock function of the U.S. Government pic.twitter.com/wj685DpKIy— Acyn (@Acyn) August 1, 2023
― but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 1 August 2023 22:23 (eight months ago) link
Feel like I've seen Smith in a bunch of B movies as a prolific yet respected character actor
― Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 1 August 2023 22:25 (eight months ago) link
Trump is scheduled to appear at the Washington, DC, federal courthouse at 4 p.m. ET on Thursday.
― out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Tuesday, 1 August 2023 22:38 (eight months ago) link
Will that be his first return to DC since losing?
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 1 August 2023 22:39 (eight months ago) link
if it's what you say i love it
https://i.imgur.com/9LrGF7T.jpg
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 1 August 2023 23:01 (eight months ago) link
Wasn't he the EPA guy in Ghostbusters?
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Tuesday, 1 August 2023 23:17 (eight months ago) link
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 1 August 2023 23:20 (eight months ago) link
Ooooohhhhhh he went there
“Today's indictment serves as an important reminder: anyone who puts himself over the Constitution should never be President of the United States,” Pence said in a statement.
― Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 1 August 2023 23:39 (eight months ago) link
Considering the guy reportedly took notes, and no doubt said notes had a big impact on this indictment, I guess that loser has nowhere else to go.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 1 August 2023 23:41 (eight months ago) link
Feel like I've seen Smith in a bunch of B movies as a prolific yet respected character actor― Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, August 1, 2023 6:25 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
― Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, August 1, 2023 6:25 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
for a while when he was first announced this was the photo they kept using and when i saw it i thought: yeah, this might actually go somewhere. this guy looks like a motherfucker out of central casting.
https://media.cnn.com/api/v1/images/stellar/prod/221210021157-jack-smith-special-counsel-2020-file.jpg?c=16x9&q=h_270,w_480,c_fill
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 1 August 2023 23:51 (eight months ago) link
I always see Haywire from Prison Break.
― epistantophus, Wednesday, 2 August 2023 00:00 (eight months ago) link
Rehoboth is nice, Andy.
― Steely Duran (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 2 August 2023 00:02 (eight months ago) link
I see "preacher who is visited by Benson and Stabler that knows more about what happened than he lets on"
― linoleum gallagher (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 2 August 2023 00:04 (eight months ago) link
Super weird how the right sees Jack Smith as some sort of a "bedraggled nervous wreck, dripping with anger and highly emotional," and not a stone cold legal killer.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 2 August 2023 00:31 (eight months ago) link
Trey Gowdy was their idea of a stone cold legal killer, so...
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 2 August 2023 00:37 (eight months ago) link
Rehoboth/Dewey has been one of my family's go-to family gathering spots for decades, it's nice in a classic Atlantic Seaboard way.
Also whatever happens with this I'm so glad he got outright charged for Jan. 6 — good! Any fuckin thing we can do to make anyone think twice about doing that again.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 2 August 2023 00:38 (eight months ago) link
Meanwhile Yglesias is SURPRISED that some of the people in the White House were actually ACTING like they were trying to steal an election.
WTF did he think they were doing?
This reveals a more serious level of real planning for a seizure of power than I’d guessed was happening. pic.twitter.com/k9o0pxl8v8— Matthew Yglesias (@mattyglesias) August 1, 2023
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 2 August 2023 00:40 (eight months ago) link
(I know, dunking on Yglesias should be confined to the Yglesias thread. My bad.)
I was always a big fan of Bethany beach.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 2 August 2023 00:49 (eight months ago) link
I think the part about this that various people are reacting to is that they were planning to use the military to enforce the overturned election.
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Wednesday, 2 August 2023 00:56 (eight months ago) link
Andy the Grasshopper at 6:10 1 Aug 23As a west coaster, Rehoboth Beach sounds very Lovecraftian to me
― peace, man, Wednesday, 2 August 2023 00:58 (eight months ago) link
I spent a few summers down in those parts, it was nice.
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Wednesday, 2 August 2023 02:15 (eight months ago) link
(well, weeks spread out among a few summers)
Also: I feel like the revelation of these goons wanting to use the military isn’t that surprising. Fascists are fascist.
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Wednesday, 2 August 2023 02:17 (eight months ago) link
The more surprising thing was how resistant the military was to it. At least the senior leadership. Not the kind of thing I take for granted. But of course, Trump spent his entire term trashing them, so they probably weren’t feeling very coup-y.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 2 August 2023 02:24 (eight months ago) link
you have to lay the groundwork for this sort of thing you cant just call up the army last minute all like what are you doing right now, the police wouldve been a better choice anyway
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 2 August 2023 02:26 (eight months ago) link
extremely poor plan altogether, staging a coup was a tall order anyway, stealing an election on the other hand is doable under the right circumstances, i wouldve focused on that
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 2 August 2023 02:29 (eight months ago) link
I was thinking of Nixon’s Saturday Night Massacre and how it took him so many tries to find someone who’d fire the prosecutorTrump ended up with a parallel problem, fired any guy who showed a spine at any point at all. Can’t really coup when everyone in your circle is either spineless or a pure opportunist. Or Pence. Pence was just there because he wanted to be VP despite having the least swag since Dan Quayle
― mh, Wednesday, 2 August 2023 02:48 (eight months ago) link
It was all very half-assed, like everything Trump does. Coup on the cheap. Good point about the cops, that's definitely more his base than the military (or at least than the senior military, there's inevitably fascists in the ranks).
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 2 August 2023 03:51 (eight months ago) link
good (LONG) breakdown thread hereif you are into other ppl reading long legal indictments for u like I very much am
lemme see what we got.— fooler initiative (@metroadlib) August 1, 2023
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 2 August 2023 03:59 (eight months ago) link
“Rehoboth/Dewey has been one of my family's go-to family gathering spots for decades, it's nice in a classic Atlantic Seaboard way.”
It’s wonderful. I’ve been there a bunch and spent a long, mellow weekend in Dewey back in April. For people in this area it’s kind of the chilled out version of Ocean City, Maryland.
― The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 2 August 2023 11:06 (eight months ago) link
Is this where we're talking about this?
Okay Rehoboth is gays and lesbians (per my daughter at 13: "yay! SO gay!") plus families with kids. Dewey is 20somethings who drink beer. Bethany is families with kids. Ocean City is basically nonstop Spring Break.
I have a few thoughts about Cape May and northward, and Virginia Beach and southward, but I will hold those in reserve for now.
― Steely Duran (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 2 August 2023 11:19 (eight months ago) link
I mean if we’re going to have this conversation, I submit that most beachy locales in the mid-Atlantic are kind of disgusting, and that good beaches only begin Virginia Beach and south and Connecticut and north.
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Wednesday, 2 August 2023 11:31 (eight months ago) link
I am in Bethany Beach right now with my wife's family. We have visited here every year for the last 15 years. It's nice and quiet if a bit crowded on the weekend. Only thing I dislike is the drive to/from Long Island.
The sweet corn this year is amazing, fyi.
― il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Wednesday, 2 August 2023 12:05 (eight months ago) link
― tobo73, Wednesday, 2 August 2023 12:08 (eight months ago) link
Basically, Delaware beaches rule, New Jersey beaches drool. Though per table, I don't really like most mid Atlantic beaches that much, at least not for actual beach stuff like going in the water. Up north it gets pretty, down south it gets warm, but all said and done I'd rather be in Michigan.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 2 August 2023 12:09 (eight months ago) link
― il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Wednesday, August 2, 2023 8:05 AM (fifteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
this is the kind of reportage i appreciate, i went to the cape this year, first time in a while i had a proper east coast beach vacation, went wild on some sea food, harvested my own oysters
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 2 August 2023 12:23 (eight months ago) link
never been to a mid atlantic beach, closest is the jersey shore, a hilarious place
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 2 August 2023 12:25 (eight months ago) link
I have deeply considered this most recent run of posts but I’m sorry I still find Donald Trump to be a Dud.
― Lavator Shemmelpennick, Wednesday, 2 August 2023 12:28 (eight months ago) link
― lag∞n,
https://i.imgur.com/hRPfwBC.jpg
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 2 August 2023 12:29 (eight months ago) link
ayye dis fuckin guy
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 2 August 2023 12:40 (eight months ago) link
the level of italian americaning happening on the jersey shore is unbelievable, the media does not exaggerate, even in the scenic non party towns, i wish people from colorado etc could go there just to appreciate ethnic white culture
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 2 August 2023 13:04 (eight months ago) link
Is this the right thread to ask about how a person might pronounce “LIRR”?
― a love song for connor wong (gyac), Wednesday, 2 August 2023 13:08 (eight months ago) link
you just say the letters individually
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 2 August 2023 13:09 (eight months ago) link
East Coast beaches do not seem like beaches (as I know them).
― youn, Wednesday, 2 August 2023 13:19 (eight months ago) link
i grew up spending every summer camping on beaches from Baja to Big Sur and now for the last 20 years Cape Cod and down to the Outer Banks. There's so much to enjoy in all those places for different reasons.
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 2 August 2023 13:22 (eight months ago) link
how so?
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 2 August 2023 13:25 (eight months ago) link
East Coast beaches are nice if you are able to temper your expectations about what a beach is supposed to be
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Wednesday, 2 August 2023 13:26 (eight months ago) link
They seem like national parks or nature preserves or amusement parks, but I haven't been to many. The sand doesn't seem as fine-grained, and the waves and the water are different. That is not to say that any kind of beach is better or worse.
― youn, Wednesday, 2 August 2023 13:28 (eight months ago) link
Conversely, growing up on East Coast beaches I find West Coast beaches all weird and cold and dramatic. East Coast beaches are warm and you can just wade into the surf without being knocked down, they're mostly very friendly.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 2 August 2023 13:28 (eight months ago) link
yeah west coast beaches arent as much about going in the water which is too bad cause i like going in the water
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 2 August 2023 13:30 (eight months ago) link
West coast beaches have cool dead stuff on them
― Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Wednesday, 2 August 2023 13:31 (eight months ago) link
Donaldlo Troomps is a dud
Maybe there needs to be "Beach, please" thread where we all get to uncloak our takes on intersections betwixt sea and sand. Personally I have said what I wish to say and I am tired.
Also Trump blows dead bears, so there's that.
― Steely Duran (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 2 August 2023 13:33 (eight months ago) link
(I think it's just that everyone is nervous and waiting.)
― youn, Wednesday, 2 August 2023 14:24 (eight months ago) link
the mediterranean is in many ways the best overall body of water but the beaches get a deduction for rockiness
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 2 August 2023 14:25 (eight months ago) link
When I was a kid and learning to swim, I took lessons out at the local lake. It was one of those two week boot camp style things. Anyway, on the last day we were supposed to have a swimming test at the beach, and I walked two blocks down and about a hundred yards beyond the swim area there was a boat going around in a circle with no one at the helm. Apparently, whoever had been at the helm somehow fell overboard and the boat boomeranged back around and went over him and he died instantly. So his body was floating out there with the boat kind of circling around it and I guess sometimes over it, and the authorities had yet to arrive to stop it. So I never did have that last swim lesson. Never went in the water there again. It wasn't a very nice beach anyway. For Midwest beaches I always preferred the ones I'd go swimming in while vacationing in minnesota.
― omar little, Wednesday, 2 August 2023 14:31 (eight months ago) link
Where in Minnesota did you go?
― steely flan (suzy), Wednesday, 2 August 2023 14:34 (eight months ago) link
holy shit, i'm sorry you witnessed that
― c u (crüt), Wednesday, 2 August 2023 14:34 (eight months ago) link
I went up to a couple lakes all the way by Ely, white iron lake and garden lake. vv nice spots.
It was pretty messed up but unless I totally blocked it out I don't recall seeing anything particularly grisly. It's one of those memories I forget but then something sparks it.
― omar little, Wednesday, 2 August 2023 14:46 (eight months ago) link
Nope. It's pronounced "L-I-double-R." Even TV newscasters say it like that.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 2 August 2023 14:53 (eight months ago) link
ive never heard anyone say that but i didnt watch the local news much when i lived in new york
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 2 August 2023 14:59 (eight months ago) link
it does sound like something long islanders would say tho tbf
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 2 August 2023 15:01 (eight months ago) link
actually you know what i just repeated both to myself in a long island accent and just saying the letters was better
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 2 August 2023 15:02 (eight months ago) link
tbf people in new york dont talk about the el eye are are that much but sometimes they do it stopped close to my place i took it at least once
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 2 August 2023 15:06 (eight months ago) link
Is this the right thread to ask about how a person might pronounce “LIRR”?― a love song for connor wong (gyac), Wednesday, August 2, 2023 6:08 AM
― a love song for connor wong (gyac), Wednesday, August 2, 2023 6:08 AM
I lived in NYC for ~10 years and honestly think I've only ever hear it pronounced as "the train"
― felicity, Wednesday, 2 August 2023 17:11 (eight months ago) link
Sorry to derail back to the indictment but VG that was a good Twitter thread.
The indictment itself is damning and sickening in how brainwashed and culty the inner circle was. For example, Co-Conspirator 4, a DOJ official who tried to "fire" his supervisor for not permitting a letter to go out to "contested states" on DOJ letterhead etc.
Sadlol at Paragraph 26, quoting one 45 campaign emailing another:
26. . . . As early as mid-November, for instance, the Senior Campaign Advisor had informed the Defendant that his claims of a large number of dead voters in Georgia were untrue. With respect to the persistent false claim regarding State Farm Arena, on December 8, the Senior Campaign Advisor wrote in an email, When our research and campaign legal team can't back up any of the claims made by our Elite Strike Force Legal Team, you can see why we're 0-32 on our cases. I'll obviously hustle to help on all fronts, but it's tough to own any of this when it's all just conspiracy shit beamed down from the mothership.
― felicity, Wednesday, 2 August 2023 17:25 (eight months ago) link
this can only be settled by 30 year old long island rap (2:58)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6phI8IlAqw
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 2 August 2023 17:28 (eight months ago) link
Alright, folks. Let's settle this once and for all. What are we called?— LIRR (@LIRR) January 11, 2023
some people say lur i guess
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 2 August 2023 17:33 (eight months ago) link
https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/villains/images/a/ab/Lrrr.png
― mark s, Wednesday, 2 August 2023 17:37 (eight months ago) link
Anyway at least co-conspirator 1 won't have any other distractions as he prepares to uh wait hold on
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/rudy-giuliani-racist-sexist-remarks-lawsuit-1234799473/
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 2 August 2023 17:38 (eight months ago) link
it's "the train" or "long island railroad" irl ime. i just watched some local news videos and those people (freaks) say "el eye double ar".
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 2 August 2023 17:40 (eight months ago) link
l i r r literally won the poll
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 2 August 2023 17:41 (eight months ago) link
Just say the letters, jeez; you are never in such a hurry that you can't say four syllables. We are not Australians who need to give everything a cute abbreviated nickname.
Hm. Anyway. Re: indictment There's no way Donald Trump can wriggle out of this, right?
We have finally got him, right?
Right?
― Steely Duran (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 2 August 2023 17:45 (eight months ago) link
Eh, we'll see.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 2 August 2023 17:46 (eight months ago) link
feel like i double r is obvs power user talk, normal people say l i r r, and sure yeah the train but thats just the mode of transport not the name, no one has time to say long island rail road you will miss the train if you do that, lur is what you say in kennedy fried chicken at 3am
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 2 August 2023 17:47 (eight months ago) link
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, August 2, 2023 1:38 PM (thirteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
guys just trying to work on his tight five give him a break jeez
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F2izlmPXIAATrEk?format=png&name=900x900
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 2 August 2023 17:52 (eight months ago) link
Personally I often use my cellular telephone to decide whether I will take an omnibus or a taximeter cabriolet to get to my chosen destination.
Perhaps I might deign to employ the servces of the Metropolitan Transportation Authority? One never knows.
― Steely Duran (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 2 August 2023 17:54 (eight months ago) link
no one has time to say long island rail road you will miss the train
1. long island railroad is one syllable longer than l i r r.
2. if you are in danger of missing the train you say "the train".
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 2 August 2023 17:54 (eight months ago) link
"excuse me good sir is this perchance where one catches the long island rail road montauk bound" everyone on the platform thinks youre a nerd now great job
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 2 August 2023 17:58 (eight months ago) link
Can we go back to the Rolling Stone article for a second because oh my GOD
― the new drip king (DJP), Wednesday, 2 August 2023 18:16 (eight months ago) link
if you ask where is the lirr in atlantic terminal you're a nerd.
xp yes let's leave this at joe is a nerd.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 2 August 2023 18:20 (eight months ago) link
xxxp that Giuliani quote has come up before and it's still just as funny. like he's trying to do a bit and failing terribly
― mh, Wednesday, 2 August 2023 18:23 (eight months ago) link
What about “I claim these tits. These tits are mine,” though?
― the new drip king (DJP), Wednesday, 2 August 2023 18:24 (eight months ago) link
ok I clicked through the actual article and, as usual, he's even worse than expected
― mh, Wednesday, 2 August 2023 18:26 (eight months ago) link
I didn't realize it was the Dunphy lawsuit and that article barely touches upon the many, many, many terrible things that went on
I don't have the prior articles handy, but the jist is that Giuliani met this woman who was going through a rough time and strung her along as a not-quite-assistant that he would share all kinds of confidential info with her, refuse to actually put her on payroll, and just slipped her cash occasionally while treating her terribly (and likely highly illegally) as a not-quite-assistant not-quite-girlfriend
She has my sympathies although "I really need to move forward in life, Rudy Giuliani seems like he's moving up in the world" is not exactly the best starting point
― mh, Wednesday, 2 August 2023 18:29 (eight months ago) link
One wonders what didn’t make the article
― The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 2 August 2023 18:29 (eight months ago) link
When I lived in NYC, we tried to avoid going to Long Island.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 2 August 2023 18:30 (eight months ago) link
There is some chatter as to why that Jeffrey Clark asshole has been walking free for the last few years, despite so many eyewitnesses to his reported crimes, criminality or general assholery.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 2 August 2023 18:31 (eight months ago) link
iirc Rudy promised Dunphy a $1 million-a-year job, right? And basically made her his sex slave while never actually giving her $1 million.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 2 August 2023 18:32 (eight months ago) link
xxxp here's more of it, if you want to feel grossed out https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2023/05/rudy-giuliani-noelle-dunphy-lawsuit
― mh, Wednesday, 2 August 2023 18:33 (eight months ago) link
xp It reminds me of the grouchy judge I was in front of this morning who asked another lawyer, "Are you familiar with due process?"
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 2 August 2023 18:33 (eight months ago) link
damn, grouchy judge otm
― mh, Wednesday, 2 August 2023 18:36 (eight months ago) link
Not a question you want to get from a judge.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 2 August 2023 18:40 (eight months ago) link
little judgy
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 2 August 2023 18:41 (eight months ago) link
Thanks, Google search.
People also askWhat is the Noelle Dunphy complaint?Who is Rudy Giuliani's accuser?What are Noelle Dunphy's measurements?Who is Dunphy Rudy Giuliani?
― Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 2 August 2023 18:41 (eight months ago) link
xxp real "is your law degree printed on toilet paper?" moment
― mh, Wednesday, 2 August 2023 18:42 (eight months ago) link
Guiliani also became Dunphy's lawyer for her domestic violence case and then inflicted his BSDM fantasies on her.
Really bizarre and gross conduct, all completely credible, given this drunk idiot loaded his 23,000 emails onto her computer and she recorded many of their conversations and has all the texts
https://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/nyscef/ViewDocument?docIndex=ayMPHcCh5eCKqo1g4gB42A==
― felicity, Wednesday, 2 August 2023 18:42 (eight months ago) link
lots of competition but, is Rudy the most loathsome US public figure of the 21st c? like on a base level of abject, visceral repugnance not proper moral accounting
― rob, Wednesday, 2 August 2023 18:45 (eight months ago) link
He's certainly had one of the steepest falls from grace. However, I don't see how he tops his master. He's Renfield to Trump's Dracula.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 2 August 2023 18:47 (eight months ago) link
Well what makes his fall so much more crazy is that he was actually elevated on this huge pedestal after 9/11, he was being lionized left and right in the few months afterwards. Setting aside whether he even deserved any of that or not, he could have just so easily had stayed quiet and slinked off into the night with a golden boy halo at the end.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 2 August 2023 18:49 (eight months ago) link
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, August 2, 2023 2:20 PM (twenty-eight minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
youre the one doing it, and youre dressed like paddington bear mate
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 2 August 2023 18:50 (eight months ago) link
xpsee for me that analogy is otm in terms of how much more loathsome Rudy is! like Dracula is a villain and compelling in his own way, Renfield is pathetic & disgusting
you're both right about the fall, though I was a big Rudy hater pre-9/11
― rob, Wednesday, 2 August 2023 18:51 (eight months ago) link
coincidence or was someone mad about daddy Trump's indictment?
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/us-capitol-police-searching-senate-office-buildings-report-active-shoo-rcna97814
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Wednesday, 2 August 2023 19:03 (eight months ago) link
to Ned's original point, the evidence in the Dunphy case is a distraction for him, and it's also conceivable the evidence in that case could converge with the indictment.
There is an allegation Giuliani admitted he did not actually believe they could prove the election had been stolen:
"Around this time, Giuliani stated, “When I walked out of the White House on the night before he was going to leave, I could feel pain” and thought, “Well, not gonna be back here for four years. That’s for sure.” Ms. Dunphy understood these comments as an acknowledgment by Giuliani that Donald Trump would be unable to prove that the election had been “stolen,” despite what Giuliani and Trump had been claiming publicly."
― felicity, Wednesday, 2 August 2023 19:04 (eight months ago) link
Lol ok
Mike Pence on Trump effort to overturn election results: "Sadly, the president was surrounded by a group of crackpot lawyers that kept telling him what his itching ears wanted to hear. ... The president ultimately continued to demand that I choose him over the Constitution." pic.twitter.com/wLhw0mA78Q— Manu Raju (@mkraju) August 2, 2023
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 2 August 2023 19:08 (eight months ago) link
trump famously does whatever lawyers tell him
― rob, Wednesday, 2 August 2023 19:09 (eight months ago) link
I mean, Rudy was known, fairly or not, as the prosecutor who took on the heads of the Five Families.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 2 August 2023 19:11 (eight months ago) link
seriously, he should know from wiretaps. What a disgrace.
― felicity, Wednesday, 2 August 2023 19:14 (eight months ago) link
suspect trumps primary opponents will soon find their way to the sadly hes too damaged by the deep state to win the general election weasel rationale
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 2 August 2023 19:14 (eight months ago) link
Never thought I would even start to think "Mike Pence otm," but here we are.
― Steely Duran (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 2 August 2023 20:10 (eight months ago) link
Also? Love that the Pence video takes place in front of both tractors and golf carts, the two iconic vehicles of the Republican dialectic.
― Steely Duran (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 2 August 2023 20:21 (eight months ago) link
A little late to the LIRR discussion as I was driving back all day to actual LI. IIRC the announcements at LIRR stations and on LIRR trains refer to it as LI double-R. I am not a native LI-er and refer to it by the four letters.
― il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Wednesday, 2 August 2023 21:02 (eight months ago) link
I was listening to a Peter Tosh album, Mama Africa, and lo, there is a song called Maga Dog. According to the liner notes, a maga dog is a rough, stray dog that you take in and feed but it will turn around and bite the shit out of you. Seems appropriate.
The lyrics seem to be about a woman, so a rough girl from the streets that the narrator takes care of but she keeps going back to her rough ways.
I can't find many references to the phrase outside of the song, but one website says maga=mongrel.
― Cow_Art, Wednesday, 2 August 2023 21:26 (eight months ago) link
Make America Great Dane Again
― Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 2 August 2023 21:30 (eight months ago) link
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0)
he's practically an object lesson in a self-own, i mean he could have chilled out as America's Mayor for the rest of his life and beyond, into the history books. he'd be like GWB now. the true trump derangement syndrome is the number of people who have thrown away everything for that guy.
― omar little, Wednesday, 2 August 2023 21:36 (eight months ago) link
the shine kinda wore off when he ran for president and no one voted for him
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 2 August 2023 21:59 (eight months ago) link
lol remember when it was supposed to be Rudy vs. Hilary
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 2 August 2023 22:01 (eight months ago) link
The shine also kinda wore off when his cheap-ass hair dye leaked down his face at a press conference
― Steely Duran (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 2 August 2023 22:02 (eight months ago) link
xxxp That's Trump's true talent, getting other people to destroy themselves for him.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 2 August 2023 22:02 (eight months ago) link
The shine sheen also kinda wore off when his cheap-ass hair dye leaked down his face at a press conference
― Steely Duran (Ye Mad Puffin),
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 2 August 2023 22:03 (eight months ago) link
https://whyy.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/fourseasonstotallandscaping-trumpgiuliani-768x432.jpg
― hardcore technician gimmicks are also another popular choice f (President Keyes), Wednesday, 2 August 2023 23:23 (eight months ago) link
only the greatest photograph ever taken
― J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Wednesday, 2 August 2023 23:34 (eight months ago) link
god bless The Onion
Trump Campaign Worried There Might Not Be Enough Indictments To Meet All Fundraising Goals
― out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Thursday, 3 August 2023 00:04 (eight months ago) link
this is pretty good as well...
https://www.theonion.com/studio-salvages-terrible-film-s-box-office-numbers-by-m-1850692439
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 3 August 2023 00:10 (eight months ago) link
ok ymp with the harshest burn i ever heard lmao
― the late great, Thursday, 3 August 2023 01:01 (eight months ago) link
Last time I was in New York, Trump was in court to be arraigned. Currently half of my family is in DC, where Trump is about to be arraigned. Question: when should we plan our trip to Atlanta?
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 3 August 2023 12:26 (eight months ago) link
― Cow_Art, Wednesday, August 2, 2023 5:26 PM (yesterday)
not really thread relevant, but I would have assumed "maga" = "mawga" which means thin or skinny in Jamaican English (supposedly derived from "meagre" though "maigre" means thin in French, though obviously they're related)
― rob, Thursday, 3 August 2023 13:16 (eight months ago) link
meagre ass dog
― lag∞n, Thursday, 3 August 2023 14:32 (eight months ago) link
Saw a good passing analysis of this case that pointed out that whether or not Trump believed his own lies is irrelevant, because it is not illegal to lie, it is not illegal to believe crazy shit or make stuff up, but it is illegal to, say, push forward an alternate set of electors or schemes like that. Everyone is entitled to their own truth, however bonkers, but not entitled to break the law in support of their own truth.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 3 August 2023 14:46 (eight months ago) link
wake up MAGAt i think i got something to say to youyou fucked up covid then lost the election you combovered fool
― reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 3 August 2023 14:47 (eight months ago) link
Biden tells @JayMcMichaelCNN he won’t be following Trump’s arraignment in federal court today: “NO” pic.twitter.com/TmdURLQQ5r— Kevin Liptak (@Kevinliptakcnn) August 3, 2023
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 3 August 2023 16:00 (eight months ago) link
― lag∞n, Thursday, 3 August 2023 18:05 (eight months ago) link
God could you imagine trump on a bicycle?
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 3 August 2023 18:15 (eight months ago) link
TIL that Eddy Grant has a $300k pending suit against Trump for retweeting an anti Biden 2020 commercial using Electric Avenue, and both have court gag orders on the claim. This eats
― toenail fungus (Hunt3r), Thursday, 3 August 2023 18:38 (eight months ago) link
GOOD GOD
― citation needed (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 3 August 2023 19:01 (eight months ago) link
And then we'll take it higher
― Steely Duran (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 3 August 2023 19:02 (eight months ago) link
OH! NO!
― frogbs, Thursday, 3 August 2023 19:07 (eight months ago) link
that commercial was hilarious ngl
― brimstead, Thursday, 3 August 2023 19:15 (eight months ago) link
one word: wow
Trump is sitting in Special Counsel Jack Smith’s direct line of sight in the courtroom — and Smith almost certainly just looked at Trump— Hugo Lowell (@hugolowell) August 3, 2023
― lag∞n, Thursday, 3 August 2023 20:27 (eight months ago) link
Uh okay
― the new drip king (DJP), Thursday, 3 August 2023 20:39 (eight months ago) link
dare jack smith to wink at him
― z_tbd, Thursday, 3 August 2023 20:40 (eight months ago) link
And then Billy Vera and the Beaters start playing
― linoleum gallagher (Neanderthal), Thursday, 3 August 2023 20:40 (eight months ago) link
BABY JACK JUST RIZZED UP TRUMPY
― the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 3 August 2023 20:41 (eight months ago) link
I get that we've all final bossed Trump but, any one of us would do that
― fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Thursday, 3 August 2023 20:42 (eight months ago) link
Our Big Boy’s hairline is really doing a number on the CNN lead photo
― Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Thursday, 3 August 2023 20:44 (eight months ago) link
IS HE THE NEW PERP KING????
― the new drip king (DJP), Thursday, 3 August 2023 20:45 (eight months ago) link
i cannot believe i am laughing but YUP
― toenail fungus (Hunt3r), Thursday, 3 August 2023 20:52 (eight months ago) link
Mini headline on WaPo:
Trump says it’s a ‘sad day for America,’ criticizes Washington ‘filth’
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 3 August 2023 21:24 (eight months ago) link
Smith looked at Trump, Trumpwanted to runBut the trial kept moving as planned
― nickn, Thursday, 3 August 2023 21:45 (eight months ago) link
Smith took Trump, he pushed him against the benchHe drove it in, he drove it home, he drove it deep in Trump
― nickn, Thursday, 3 August 2023 21:46 (eight months ago) link
Prison for 98 and a year and we'll call it even Donny '99
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 3 August 2023 21:47 (eight months ago) link
From my perspective, former President Donald Trump seemed today like many defendants making their initial appearance do -- which is to say, like someone beginning to appreciate the gravity of the situation. https://t.co/lbwQ0QmZBA— Jordan Fischer (@JordanOnRecord) August 3, 2023
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 3 August 2023 22:05 (eight months ago) link
Today he Truly became a criminal
― Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Thursday, 3 August 2023 22:08 (eight months ago) link
I am pressing the snooze button on this news because I feel like we've been stuck on "trump is in legal jeopardy" and "maybe he will someday almost face consequences" since 2015.
Wake me when something actually happens to this fucking douche
― Steely Duran (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 3 August 2023 22:11 (eight months ago) link
Kinda surprised he isn't playing the OJ "100% not guilty, your honor" card.
― henry s, Thursday, 3 August 2023 22:17 (eight months ago) link
what is the point of comments like this? sorry you are bored by the string of criminal indictments, it's not clear to me how this is not something happening
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Thursday, 3 August 2023 22:26 (eight months ago) link
Unless Jack Smith is going to strangle Trump to death on live TV in court, I don’t want anything to do with this snooze fest
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 3 August 2023 22:34 (eight months ago) link
hitting the 'dud' button
― ꙮ (map), Thursday, 3 August 2023 22:46 (eight months ago) link
sorry you are bored by the string of criminal indictments, it's not clear to me how this is not something happening― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Thursday, 3 August 2023
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Thursday, 3 August 2023
Yeah sorry if this is not well understood but the time alone consumed by being in multiple parallel and overlapping criminal and civil proceedings is significant. Trump has to be in DC, Florida, various court appearances at various times. And with that depositions, prep, etc.
Even bullshit lawsuits take up time to defend and these are not bullshit. Using up the only non-renewable resource a person has (time) is definitely something happening.
― felicity, Thursday, 3 August 2023 23:17 (eight months ago) link
extremely otm tyvm
― out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Thursday, 3 August 2023 23:31 (eight months ago) link
On that note:
Yeah, this is what happens when you don’t think through your lawsuit before you file it. https://t.co/UO5XAWC2AS— Bradley P. Moss (@BradMossEsq) August 3, 2023
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 3 August 2023 23:34 (eight months ago) link
wake up MAGAt i think i got something to say to youyou fucked up covid then lost the election you combovered foolwhere’s the rod stewarttunes??
― serving bundt (sic), Thursday, 3 August 2023 23:36 (eight months ago) link
xp lololol
― out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Thursday, 3 August 2023 23:51 (eight months ago) link
A grand jury... aka a jury... saw this evidence and decided it warranted an arrest/arraignment
Of course, Defense has not yet been allowed to present their side.. but I wonder just what these jurors saw. There's probably plenty of shit that was not included in the formal indictment, because they don't wanna show all their cards just yet
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 4 August 2023 00:22 (eight months ago) link
I don’t want anything to do with this snooze fest
That's OK. All the people who matter will be assembled in the courtroom and together they will produce a verdict. Your input or attention is purely optional to that process. We'll wake you up when the verdict arrives. It might interest you.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 4 August 2023 04:45 (eight months ago) link
lol what
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 4 August 2023 13:44 (eight months ago) link
When is Jack Smith going to give us Medicare For All?
― hardcore technician gimmicks are also another popular choice f (President Keyes), Friday, 4 August 2023 14:27 (eight months ago) link
when is the new White Smiths album coming out
― linoleum gallagher (Neanderthal), Friday, 4 August 2023 14:35 (eight months ago) link
Where are Jack Smith's tax returns?
― The Terroir of Tiny Town (WmC), Friday, 4 August 2023 14:54 (eight months ago) link
if that's even his real name
― out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Friday, 4 August 2023 14:58 (eight months ago) link
if he's so innocent, why won't he admit he's not?
― linoleum gallagher (Neanderthal), Friday, 4 August 2023 14:58 (eight months ago) link
trump said something good yesterday
“This is not the place that I left,” he said.
― z_tbd, Friday, 4 August 2023 15:12 (eight months ago) link
Trump’s campaign team was miffed by a lack of traffic support from local police after he arrived in Washington, forcing the motorcade to weave through rush-hour traffic. Other motorists attempted to change lanes between the motorcade, showing less deference than typical for an average funeral procession. The welcome from onlookers at the courthouse was occasionally hostile, with several middle fingers from bikers and spectators along the highway from the airport. There was a Biden flag on a corner near the courthouse.
The former president said it was a “very sad day for America.”
--
for mental health reasons i try to keep this man and his army of hateful fools out of my head. but yeah if he comes within 100 miles of me he's going to get all my middle fingers as well as an interpretation of what the inside of my most wretched innards sound like when converted to hoarse screaming
― z_tbd, Friday, 4 August 2023 15:15 (eight months ago) link
It’s funny, when you make your entire brand “hate goblin”, people start hating you
― the new drip king (DJP), Friday, 4 August 2023 15:26 (eight months ago) link
Make America Hate Again
― Continuous Two-Tone Warble (Tom D.), Friday, 4 August 2023 15:29 (eight months ago) link
staging a deadly riot for your own personal gain doesn't appear to sit well with the locals
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Friday, 4 August 2023 15:31 (eight months ago) link
i don't ask for much, but i do ask for him and his entire family and everyone who has ever helped to him to immediately die
― z_tbd, Friday, 4 August 2023 15:34 (eight months ago) link
From this side of the pond we are very much back to our broadcast media gawping at all this and tacitly saying, "Would you look at these dumb American assholes, what a state".
― Continuous Two-Tone Warble (Tom D.), Friday, 4 August 2023 15:34 (eight months ago) link
you can spare Tiffany
― frogbs, Friday, 4 August 2023 15:37 (eight months ago) link
(jk jk jk, sorry, too soon. i wish all the best to him and his lovely family and those wonderful supporters of his. honestly, he's already too in my head this morning, i think from all the news the last few days. i am hopeful that the jan 6 trial will be scheduled asap, before the other trials. if it gets scheduled after the maralago one, the shitty trump judge will acquiesce to all the predictable requests to delay the maralago trial until after the election, which will effectively push the other trials, including jan6, past the election as well. until those trial dates get set, i'm hitting the snooze on prognostication about these trials and the election, because it all depends on how much trump's team can convince trump's judges to sweep it under the rug until after the wonderful people of america can decide whether or not to give him power again)
― z_tbd, Friday, 4 August 2023 15:38 (eight months ago) link
middle fingers from BIKERS are worth double
― nashwan, Friday, 4 August 2023 15:44 (eight months ago) link
the judge in charge of the Jan 6 case is an Obama appointee who issued some of the most stringent sentences for previous Jan 6 defendants, hopefully she is not as easy to influence as the mar-a-lago judge
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Friday, 4 August 2023 15:45 (eight months ago) link
It's DC, probably bicycle commuters.
― Moritz von Oswald von Wolkenstein (Boring, Maryland), Friday, 4 August 2023 15:46 (eight months ago) link
OTM, it's the revolution consuming its own children.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 4 August 2023 17:29 (eight months ago) link
Try this out: "Your input or attention is purely optional".
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 4 August 2023 17:32 (eight months ago) link
Nah, she's got the curse. Mary is the only one worth a good god damn.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 4 August 2023 17:43 (eight months ago) link
kind interesting how his family is a no show for all of this, havent seen them standing up for him in the media
― lag∞n, Friday, 4 August 2023 18:14 (eight months ago) link
now that they have the saudi wealth fund, they don't need to humor crazy daddy anymore?
― reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 4 August 2023 18:16 (eight months ago) link
id imagine the lawyers are telling them to stay away too considering theyre all prob implicated
― lag∞n, Friday, 4 August 2023 18:22 (eight months ago) link
A piece on the subject:
https://www.emptywheel.net/2023/08/04/trumps-family-is-not-in-his-prosecution/
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 4 August 2023 18:25 (eight months ago) link
Don Jr, Eric, and Lara have all been showing up on various news shows complaining about this
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Friday, 4 August 2023 18:55 (eight months ago) link
― Continuous Two-Tone Warble (Tom D.), Friday, August 4, 2023 11:34 AM (four hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
Cool. Take your intellectuals back then.
https://wordpress.bigissue.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/1506_RussellBrand_2.jpg
― hardcore technician gimmicks are also another popular choice f (President Keyes), Friday, 4 August 2023 19:55 (eight months ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/uPL1J87.jpg"Would you look at these dumb American assholes, what a state".
― citation needed (Steve Shasta), Friday, 4 August 2023 19:59 (eight months ago) link
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/04/us/politics/desantis-trump-election-2020.html
Gov. Ron DeSantis of Florida said that claims about the 2020 election being stolen were false, directly contradicting a central argument of former President Donald J. Trump and his supporters.
i guess someone finally persuaded him there is no winning lane to trump's right?
Mr. DeSantis also said he did not have much time to watch coverage of his chief rival’s arraignment on Thursday.“I saw a little bit,” he said. “Unfortunately, one of the things as governor that you have to do is oversee executions. So we had an execution yesterday, so I was tied up with that for most of the day.”
“I saw a little bit,” he said. “Unfortunately, one of the things as governor that you have to do is oversee executions. So we had an execution yesterday, so I was tied up with that for most of the day.”
ah well nevertheless
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 4 August 2023 20:13 (eight months ago) link
Or that there is no winning lane to saying Trump should be president.
― nickn, Friday, 4 August 2023 20:15 (eight months ago) link
Tied up all day? Damn, he gets kinky horny at the thought of killing people
― fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Friday, 4 August 2023 20:20 (eight months ago) link
When you're governor you have to throw the switch, when you're president you get to slit throats, that's his motivation for running.
― BrianB, Friday, 4 August 2023 20:34 (eight months ago) link
Thought y'all would appreciate this reaction from a right wing newsletter that someone signed up for with my email:
The Biden administration has left the rule of law and the U.S. Constitution behind with its latest indictment of President Trump for daring to dispute the 2020 presidential election, as is his God-given right as a president, a citizen, and a candidate under state, federal and constitutional law.
This sham indictment is perfectly consistent with the partisan and political abuse I suffered at the hands of Jack Smith’s prosecutors for hours as they argued with me before their grand jury using Democratic talking points on the election controversy.
Let’s be blunt: This indictment is a naked threat and act of intimidation by the Democratic Party against any and all their political opponents. The message from the Biden regime is: “We will put you in jail if you dispute elections.” A free and fair 2024 election is officially impossible.
And, of course, Joe Biden and his political appointee Merrick Garland at the Justice Department want to distract from the conclusive evidence of Biden’s personal corruption by trying to jail and turn Trump into a political prisoner.
It is well past time for Congress to do everything possible under the law to undo this attempt to wreck our republican form of government.
Let’s hope the courts finally step up and shut down this unprecedented prosecutorial abuse.
In the meantime, Judic1al Watch will continue to expose and hold accountable the criminal elements in the Biden administration seeking to undo our republican form of government.
― Random Restaurateur (Jordan), Saturday, 5 August 2023 00:16 (eight months ago) link
just a bit of lunacy, so let's be blunt
― linoleum gallagher (Neanderthal), Saturday, 5 August 2023 00:38 (eight months ago) link
lmao of course they don't know how things work.
Yeah, Trump truthered that he wants SCOTUS to step in and put an end to this leftist madness
― Andy the Grasshopper, Saturday, 5 August 2023 00:49 (eight months ago) link
"We, the Supreme Court, hereby decree....stop it"
― linoleum gallagher (Neanderthal), Saturday, 5 August 2023 00:52 (eight months ago) link
Who wrote that newsletter thing?
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Saturday, 5 August 2023 01:00 (eight months ago) link
"Tom Fitt0n" for "Judic1al Watch"
― Random Restaurateur (Jordan), Saturday, 5 August 2023 01:02 (eight months ago) link
quite fitt0n
― linoleum gallagher (Neanderthal), Saturday, 5 August 2023 01:11 (eight months ago) link
Judicial Watch are just grifters
― Chevy Chase drumming mystery (Boring, Maryland), Saturday, 5 August 2023 02:09 (eight months ago) link
news you can use
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Saturday, 5 August 2023 03:33 (eight months ago) link
DoJ isn't fucking around
BREAKING: DoJ has filed a motion for a PROTECTIVE ORDER in the trump coup case based on Donald’s social media posts. DoJ argues that improper dissemination of evidence could have a chilling effect on witnesses. I believe they’ll be granted this motion. pic.twitter.com/kBoJjk1shL— Mueller, She Wrote (@MuellerSheWrote) August 5, 2023
― bookmarkflaglink (Darin), Saturday, 5 August 2023 04:25 (eight months ago) link
about fucking time
― out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Saturday, 5 August 2023 04:31 (eight months ago) link
A dozen Trump supporters approached Mike Pence’s vehicle as he entered his Friday event yelling, “that’s a traitor,” “you’re a sellout,” and “why didn’t you uphold the constitution?” “I upheld the constitution,” Pence shouted back. As they badgered him he yelled, “Read it!” pic.twitter.com/gKpeB2mntO— Kelsey Walsh (@Kjwalsh_news) August 5, 2023
Meanwhile, what were assholes like Pence thinking? For years he defended Trump, or avoided criticizing Trump. He dragged his feet when asked to give testimony about Trump or be formally interviewed about Trump. He put up with all sorts of affronts to his purported morality, at the cost of his credibility and, in some cases, literally putting his life at risk. And this is all in service of a guy that despises him, and his supporters, who also despise him. And then, years later, he finally takes a turn for the minimally righteous, and no one gives a shit. All that stalling, all that shallow stoicism and sophistry, was in service of nothing, and he will go down in history as a footnote, disliked by the majority of both sides, having gotten nothing in return. It would be downright Job-like had it not all been self-inflicted and totally avoidable from the start.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 5 August 2023 14:39 (eight months ago) link
Judicial Watch is a highly-evolved grift.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Saturday, 5 August 2023 14:43 (eight months ago) link
Here's the thing, though: they really do. They just pretend not to in order to gin up outrage and, hence, donations. They also pretend to be a watchdog group when they are, in fact, right-wing attack dogs.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Saturday, 5 August 2023 14:50 (eight months ago) link
It seems like they do a lot of filing legal requests and lawsuits that probably waste a considerable amount of time for various states and counties?
― Random Restaurateur (Jordan), Saturday, 5 August 2023 15:09 (eight months ago) link
Absolutely. They abuse the legal system.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Saturday, 5 August 2023 15:10 (eight months ago) link
I actually kinda recommend signing up for their mailing list, just to see all the crazy shit they say/do/claim to have done.
― Random Restaurateur (Jordan), Saturday, 5 August 2023 15:13 (eight months ago) link
TY Jordan, whoa what a thing that is. Their amicus briefs must read differently to their newsletters...
Damn now I'm wondering-- how many have they filed, and has one of them has ever been cited approvingly, anywhere?
― toenail fungus (Hunt3r), Saturday, 5 August 2023 16:10 (eight months ago) link
Trump team tried to extend the deadline to respond to the protective order to Thursday and the judge said gtfo
https://www.meidastouch.com/news/federal-judge-denies-trump-extension-request-in-extraordinary-weekend-order
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Saturday, 5 August 2023 22:18 (eight months ago) link
The prosecution's counter to their counter was pretty funny, and familiar to any parent. Basically, "if you spent more time doing your homework than you did complaining about doing your homework, then you'd be done already."
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 5 August 2023 22:29 (eight months ago) link
loving this
― out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Saturday, 5 August 2023 23:53 (eight months ago) link
heard part of the reason trump's lawyers wanted a delay is so they could appear on every sunday morning show that would have them
Meanwhile, what were assholes like Pence thinking?
over the last 40 years countless people have tried to harness trump's fame, or money, or following, for their own benefit. all the lawyers/contractors/financial partners/political parties thought they could use him rather than being used by him, and they've almost all been wrong. pence is just one of them
two who *have* gotten away with using him are the saudis and rupert murdoch, because they're much richer and care even less about their 'reputations' than he does
― mookieproof, Sunday, 6 August 2023 02:34 (eight months ago) link
doin good brother
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F22ks3cXYAAoS_q?format=jpg&name=large
― lag∞n, Sunday, 6 August 2023 15:34 (eight months ago) link
in HELL
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 6 August 2023 15:37 (eight months ago) link
Elevator sitcom pitch: Trump dies and goes to Hell, where he discovers Nancy Pelosi is literally the devil ... and also his new boss. Trump will play himself.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 6 August 2023 15:44 (eight months ago) link
Stable AND a genius, this one.
― The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Sunday, 6 August 2023 15:52 (eight months ago) link
I'm not scared, you're scared. And will live in hell.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Sunday, 6 August 2023 16:33 (eight months ago) link
wait isn't this hell
― toenail fungus (Hunt3r), Sunday, 6 August 2023 17:38 (eight months ago) link
I wasn't "scared."
― ꙮ (map), Sunday, 6 August 2023 17:42 (eight months ago) link
i wouldn't mind a wicked witch partner leading me from hell tbqh
― ꙮ (map), Sunday, 6 August 2023 17:43 (eight months ago) link
Remember when he was musing about Chuck'n'Nancy being his new friends?
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 6 August 2023 18:01 (eight months ago) link
Pelosi is a sincerely devout Catholic, so I'm sure a large number of the rabid evangelicals who inhabit Truth Social will agree about Nancy going to HELL.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Sunday, 6 August 2023 18:12 (eight months ago) link
On Saturday, Chutkan gave Trump's team until 5 p.m. ET on Monday to respond to prosecutors' request for a protective order. The order would prevent the former president and his legal team from sharing discovery materials with the public. Trump's attorneys asked for more time to prepare their response, which Chutkan swiftly denied.
"THERE IS NO WAY I CAN GET A FAIR TRIAL WITH THE JUDGE 'ASSIGNED' TO THE REDICULOUS FREEDOM OF SPEECH/FAIR ELECTIONS CASE. EVERYBODY KNOWS THIS, AND SO DOES SHE," Trump wrote on his social media site Truth Social Sunday morning.
― omar little, Sunday, 6 August 2023 19:51 (eight months ago) link
Definately rediculous
― omar little, Sunday, 6 August 2023 19:52 (eight months ago) link
This psycho shit is exactly why they’ve gotten trounced in nearly every election since 2016 so keep it up 👍
― frogbs, Sunday, 6 August 2023 22:32 (eight months ago) link
REDONKULOUS
― epistantophus, Sunday, 6 August 2023 22:34 (eight months ago) link
Trump (like Musk and plenty of other ludicrously entitled rich dudes) just utterly refuses to accept that any rules ever apply to him. And he’s usually maddeningly right. But judges tend to be very much not amused by that kind of shit.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Sunday, 6 August 2023 22:43 (eight months ago) link
weird guy, seems like he’s losing it
lmao this is so deranged pic.twitter.com/Sg5BO8YTrL— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) August 6, 2023
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 7 August 2023 00:41 (eight months ago) link
lot of hell stuff recently
― lag∞n, Monday, 7 August 2023 00:45 (eight months ago) link
Since asserting free speech as a defense to planning and executing a coup is a non-starter, maybe he’s going for a religious liberty defense? Coup plotting = his religion.
― Chevy Chase drumming mystery (Boring, Maryland), Monday, 7 August 2023 00:50 (eight months ago) link
the moment in 2020 where I started to feel like Trump was probably gonna lose was right after that first debate when Trump came off as incredibly rude and obnoxious, just shouting over everything and not actually answering a single question. even the Republican voters who were surveyed about it said he was acting like a caged animal. feels like 2024 is gonna be much worse, dealing not only with 3-4 indictments in different states (or more!) but also the rigor of the campaign, he's gonna totally lose his mind
― frogbs, Monday, 7 August 2023 01:09 (eight months ago) link
he's not gonna debate in 2024, especially if he's in jail
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 7 August 2023 01:10 (eight months ago) link
Hopefully this is finally his 'Col. Rhodes screaming at the undead to CHOKE ON 'EM as he's devoured' moment.
― Prop Dramedy (Old Lunch), Monday, 7 August 2023 01:13 (eight months ago) link
Wait, Joe Biden can cause a women's soccer team to lose a game?
Maybe that octogenarian has more powers than previously thought.
Which is it: is he ineffectual or an evil mastermind?
Like, can he tank my stocks or destroy my job and change the score of a sports game or is he a doddering fool who doesn't even know what year it is? Make up your goddamn mind.
― Steely Duran (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 7 August 2023 01:43 (eight months ago) link
Believe it or not, right wing assholes are REALLY pissed off at the team because certain members supposedly weren’t singing along with the worthless National Anthem
― beamish13, Monday, 7 August 2023 01:48 (eight months ago) link
its funny the things they think youre supposed to do for the anthem, put your hand over your heart, sing along, which are not actually the thing youre supposed to do, stand up
― lag∞n, Monday, 7 August 2023 01:50 (eight months ago) link
in addition to standing and singing along with your hand over your heart, you're supposed to cry ecstatic tears of joy when you get to the line about how "the flag was still there". then at the big finish about "land of the freeeeeeeee and the home --- of the ---- brave" you should pull out your concealed handgun and shoot off several rounds into the air, or at any liberals who failed to show proper respect. at least that's how I was taught to do it in my elementary school.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Monday, 7 August 2023 02:09 (eight months ago) link
most important you have to yell play ball after
― lag∞n, Monday, 7 August 2023 02:13 (eight months ago) link
always good to sing as loud as you can for a couple minutes before an hour and a half of running
― symsymsym, Monday, 7 August 2023 02:15 (eight months ago) link
hilarious the right trying to blame the loss on "wokeness" as though they weren't woke when they won the World Cup twice
― frogbs, Monday, 7 August 2023 02:16 (eight months ago) link
Liberals are weak and get nothing done but also they are omniscient puppet masters.
Liberals are stupid but they also easily stole an election.
― linoleum gallagher (Neanderthal), Monday, 7 August 2023 02:59 (eight months ago) link
Democrats go to college to get more knowledgeRepublicans go to Jupiter to get more stupider
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 7 August 2023 11:58 (eight months ago) link
how mean a thing to say!
― nashwan, Monday, 7 August 2023 12:04 (eight months ago) link
I am totally going to hell for that.
I came across this thread and found it a pretty compelling encapsulation of rightwing/reactionary rhetoric:
I'm stuck waiting on someone, so a quick 🧵I've been meaning to write, pulling together a few strands.In his book The School for Dictators, Ignazio Silone famously called fascism "a counter-revolution against a revolution that never took place." There is much wisdom there.— David Roberts (@drvolts) August 1, 2023
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 7 August 2023 12:09 (eight months ago) link
1000% OTM
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 7 August 2023 13:09 (eight months ago) link
Boris Johnson says hi.
― Continuous Two-Tone Warble (Tom D.), Monday, 7 August 2023 14:11 (eight months ago) link
Kind of funny how there's been and still is so much effort spent reporting and guessing when and where Trump will be indicted next, when each time he's been, like, "I will be indicted today at 5pm!"
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 7 August 2023 15:44 (eight months ago) link
This sure is a pretty unique defense strategy:
Attorney John Eastman, an architect of Donald Trump’s last-ditch efforts to subvert the 2020 election, is asking a California judge to postpone disbarment proceedings lodged against him, saying he’s increasingly concerned he’s about to be criminally charged by special counsel Jack Smith.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 7 August 2023 18:35 (eight months ago) link
such a freakazoid
“WOW, it’s finally happened! Liddle’ Mike Pence, a man who was about to be ousted as Governor Indiana until I came along and made him V.P., has gone to the Dark Side,” Trump wrote on Truth Social on Saturday.
“I never told a newly emboldened (not based on his 2% poll numbers!) Pence to put me above the Constitution, or that Mike was ‘too honest.’ He’s delusional, and now he wants to show he’s a tough guy,” Trump added, denying information that was contained in the indictment. “I once read a major magazine article on Mike. It said he was not a very good person. I was surprised, but the article was right. Sad!”
― Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 8 August 2023 00:04 (eight months ago) link
he can use "emboldened" in a sentence
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 8 August 2023 00:06 (eight months ago) link
jeez Mike who could have possibly seen this coming for you huh
― omar little, Tuesday, 8 August 2023 00:06 (eight months ago) link
glad he's back to 'Sad!'
― Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 8 August 2023 00:09 (eight months ago) link
I once read a major magazine article on Mike/It said he was not a very good person/I was surprised/But the article was right.
Sad! by King Missile
― hardcore technician gimmicks are also another popular choice f (President Keyes), Tuesday, 8 August 2023 00:18 (eight months ago) link
Didn't he already use "liddle" for Rubio? Or was that "widdle?" (And even by his standards, those are pretty lame putdown words, something you might expect in an Our Gang episode.)
― henry s, Tuesday, 8 August 2023 00:22 (eight months ago) link
Donald "Spanky" Trump
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 8 August 2023 00:44 (eight months ago) link
MAGAlfalfa
― Bonobo Vox (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 8 August 2023 00:55 (eight months ago) link
"I'ma He-Man Woke-Hater"
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 8 August 2023 01:26 (eight months ago) link
it might choke artie but it aint gonna choke donnie etc
― toenail fungus (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 8 August 2023 04:04 (eight months ago) link
I once read a major magazine article on Mike
Now his lies have gone too far.
― serving bundt (sic), Tuesday, 8 August 2023 04:05 (eight months ago) link
I want to point out that it wasn't just "liddle," it was "liddle'" with an apostrophe after the e.
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/09/trump-liddle-tweet/599032/
― J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Tuesday, 8 August 2023 05:33 (eight months ago) link
have lurking suspicion the linked article is not really worth the time, I just dug it up for reference, but I will never know for sure
― J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Tuesday, 8 August 2023 05:34 (eight months ago) link
I hate how it's Trump Trump Trump in the media again, every day. "what's the election going to be abouTRUMPTRUMPTRUMP" - there's that creeping inevitability again, isn't there? Who else is going to win in 2024? Nobody, let's face it.
― StanM, Tuesday, 8 August 2023 06:15 (eight months ago) link
+ all Putin needs to do in Ukraine is keep going until then and all the NATO help is going to dry up.
― StanM, Tuesday, 8 August 2023 06:17 (eight months ago) link
Stop
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Tuesday, 8 August 2023 06:39 (eight months ago) link
That Atlantic article was interesting... I didn't realize just how dishonest CNN was until Trump pointed out that they had deliberately misspelled "Liddle" by taking out the "hyphen" just to make him look dumb: To show you how dishonest the LameStream Media is, I used the word Liddle’, not Liddle, in discribing Corrupt Congressman Liddle’ Adam Schiff. Low ratings @CNN purposely took the hyphen out and said I spelled the word wrong."
― BrianB, Tuesday, 8 August 2023 12:37 (eight months ago) link
The stable genious strikes again.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 8 August 2023 12:38 (eight months ago) link
http://www.steeleryanracing.com.au/images/uploads/Stables12.jpg
― assert (matttkkkk), Tuesday, 8 August 2023 13:33 (eight months ago) link
stable genius needs to be put out to pasture
― linoleum gallagher (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 8 August 2023 14:17 (eight months ago) link
you left out the hyphen 'cause the hyphen ain't in you
― hardcore technician gimmicks are also another popular choice f (President Keyes), Tuesday, 8 August 2023 14:25 (eight months ago) link
To show you how dishonest the LameStream Media is, I used the word Liddle’, not Liddle, in discribing Corrupt Congressman Liddle’ Adam Schiff. Low ratings @CNN purposely took the hyphen out and said I spelled the word wrong.
Maybe the dumbest utterance in the history of human utterances.
― Prop Dramedy (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 8 August 2023 14:30 (eight months ago) link
weird guy, seems like he’s losing it🐦[lmao this is so deranged pic.twitter.com/Sg5BO8YTrL🕸— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) August 6, 2023🕸]🐦
― slugbuggy, life has new meaning to me (breastcrawl), Tuesday, 8 August 2023 14:41 (eight months ago) link
What an Iddiot'
― Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 8 August 2023 14:44 (eight months ago) link
Because I got hyphen
― Bonobo Vox (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 8 August 2023 14:45 (eight months ago) link
What a moron, doesn't know a hyphen from an ampersand.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 8 August 2023 14:47 (eight months ago) link
Given his diet, maybe he should be a bit more concerned with the colon.
― Bonobo Vox (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 8 August 2023 14:51 (eight months ago) link
Tip your waitress.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 8 August 2023 14:56 (eight months ago) link
Trump is soooooo dumbHow dumb is he?He's so dumb he thinks putting air quotes around things makes them inadmissibleHe thinks Question Mark means his chief of staff has to testify before Congress
― hardcore technician gimmicks are also another popular choice f (President Keyes), Tuesday, 8 August 2023 15:11 (eight months ago) link
It's almost impossible for me to comprehend the minutiae and the endless petty grievances that must circle his head 24/7, like turds flushing in a gold-plated toilet bowl.
― Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 8 August 2023 15:31 (eight months ago) link
have you hung out on right wing social media? That's all your neighbors and relatives do.
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 8 August 2023 15:35 (eight months ago) link
― tobo73, Tuesday, 8 August 2023 15:46 (eight months ago) link
Even amongst his followers, I wonder what percentage see that tweet and think, "Yeah, Fuck CNN for leaving out that hyphen."
― hardcore technician gimmicks are also another popular choice f (President Keyes), Tuesday, 8 August 2023 15:47 (eight months ago) link
guarantee you it's happening
― linoleum gallagher (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 8 August 2023 15:49 (eight months ago) link
have you hung out on right wing social media?
I used to check out Freerepublic occasionally to see what they were on about, but quit long ago. I try to stay away from the comments section of the media I consume as I don't care what garbage people think, but sometimes I feel the need to correct utter lies/bullshit.
― Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 8 August 2023 16:04 (eight months ago) link
I haven't thought about Freerepublic since we liberals were all lying about how great the Iraq War was going
― hardcore technician gimmicks are also another popular choice f (President Keyes), Tuesday, 8 August 2023 16:12 (eight months ago) link
There's one blogger I read who still reposts Free Republic comments as if that proves anything other than that nursing homes shouldn't have internet access.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 8 August 2023 16:34 (eight months ago) link
I found out a friend has a Truth social account to see what kind of stupid crap is going on. What entertained me is that all of the Trump posts max out at around 800 likes. Not a high engagement platform!
― mh, Tuesday, 8 August 2023 17:45 (eight months ago) link
Sad!
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 8 August 2023 17:48 (eight months ago) link
It’s not that we liked or enjoyed or found Trump funny. It’s that we understood what would make him appealing to other people. As much as I wish the man would vanish into a black hole, on, like, the very basic charming con man level, I get it!
With Captain Florida, there is just … nothing, nada, zilch. There is no charm, or soaring oratory, or grace, or even a sense of being comfortable in his own skin.
― The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 8 August 2023 17:49 (eight months ago) link
i created a Gab account after it launched. Dunno how much traction that still has amongst those types but it was wall-to-wall racism and insanity.
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Tuesday, 8 August 2023 17:52 (eight months ago) link
on, like, the very basic charming con man level, I get it!
here on ilx there were many who delighted in Trump's early "big-mass-of-candidates debate" appearances in the summer of 2015. they cheered him on as he relentlessly belittled all his more conventional media-favored opponents like jeb! cruz and rubio. he was viewed as a kind of useful idiot cutting the "real" candidates down to size.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 8 August 2023 18:08 (eight months ago) link
― hardcore technician gimmicks are also another popular choice f (President Keyes), Tuesday, 8 August 2023 18:09 (eight months ago) link
on the one hand he single-handedly burned the Bush-Cheney republican party to the ground, which is pretty classic. otoh he rules over a fanatically loyal zombie army numbering in the tens of millions, all clamoring to eat our brains, which is very dud.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 8 August 2023 18:24 (eight months ago) link
checking in on the competition
There is something very wrong with this man pic.twitter.com/pOpInPBj5q— Keith Edwards (@keithedwards) August 8, 2023
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 8 August 2023 18:52 (eight months ago) link
Trump is not just funny, he is the world’s greatest performance artist. His whole insane persona, an effete New York billionaire asshole turned idiot king of the “deplorables” of rural America, would be a remarkable literary invention, but he actually played it out in a reality. Everything he touches is somehow diminished — it is impossible for a serious person to be a patriotic American now, even in a qualified sense, after he reduced the pageantry of our politics to a pornographic spectacle. He ruined an entire country — a massive country, the world’s most powerful country — through the sheer perversity of his personality, and since we stooped to his level it’s hard to say we didn’t deserve it. (Resistance liberals, especially me, were as cringe as his supporters.) I hope he dies soon. He is a curse upon all of us. The fact that his performance was great doesn’t mean it wasn’t despicable and evil.
― treeship., Tuesday, 8 August 2023 18:52 (eight months ago) link
he was meant to die of covid, the perfect end to his story, the fact that the drugs that saved his life were produced just in time to do so was an affront to god
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 8 August 2023 18:56 (eight months ago) link
that shit is all so wild in retrospect because it's clear now how Trump's campaign and eventual victory was pretty much all a media creation. virtually nobody took him seriously back then, in fact I remember some CNN talking head going "I dunno, his poll numbers are pretty good, there could be something happening here" and getting laughed out of the room. even Trump himself was apparently only doing it to draw attention to himself in order to get The Celebrity Apprentice renewed. but he got ratings and so the RNC made the decision to focus these 12-man debates solely on him, and the media promoted them hard by going "oooh what's Trump gonna say next? who's the next guy to get a nickname? how racist is he gonna be?", essentially giving him billions of dollars worth of free airtime. and none of the other candidates wanted to attack him because it was clear he had 90% of the lunatic/KKK vote and they all wanted to be the guy who collected that once he inevitably dropped out. and because the GOP stands for nothing at all it turns out the voters actually didn't care who was a "serious" candidate, they just voted for the guy who made everyone mad, because that shit is how they get off in life. I mean if the media had just treated him like any other candidate he probably would've been one of the first guys out, now an entire political party is chained to a dude who is actively and brazenly trying to burn down the entire country
― frogbs, Tuesday, 8 August 2023 18:57 (eight months ago) link
"I don't know how to tell you this, Donald, but these were not monoclonal antibodies you were given. You were given...poison"
"w...how is this....possible"
(doctor turns around, last name Rubio)
― linoleum gallagher (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 8 August 2023 18:58 (eight months ago) link
The fact that he A) didn't accept his defeat, and B) actively attempted to overturn it, was the final blow in his clown show
Authoritarians all over the world can point and say, "See - democracy is a complete mess! Trust us instead" ... all based on his inability to accept defeat with grace
― Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 8 August 2023 18:58 (eight months ago) link
pic.twitter.com/0l1xtYZeeK— New York Times Pitchbot (@DougJBalloon) August 8, 2023
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 8 August 2023 18:59 (eight months ago) link
I also pitch that it be written by Matthew Yglesias, Tulsi Gabbard, and Bret Stephens
― linoleum gallagher (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 8 August 2023 19:00 (eight months ago) link
Oh, that was actually in the Times today
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Tuesday, 8 August 2023 19:09 (eight months ago) link
it was written by a Hoover Institute guy who served in the W. cabinet. Total insanity, the op-ed has 4000 comments from incensed libs.
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Tuesday, 8 August 2023 19:11 (eight months ago) link
I don't know, seems like a sound argument. Prosecuting Trump is just so divisive. So is beating him in elections. We should let him have this do-over in the name of national unity.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 8 August 2023 19:16 (eight months ago) link
I thought he was supposed to die of huffing horse tranquilizers or something.
Maybe injecting pureed Big Macs.
I forget. Hard to keep track of the wacky Diet Coke memes and the ither absurd shit that should have rid us of this charlatan long ago. And yet he remains. I am tired of even thinking about his stupid face and hair and yet he remains.
Will no on rid me etc.
― Bonobo Vox (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 8 August 2023 19:16 (eight months ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSTWqRkBN74
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 8 August 2023 19:17 (eight months ago) link
Will no one rid me etc., meant to say.
The dude heard "don't look directly at the eclipse" and was like, "I will now look directly at the eclipse." And yet he is still with us, constantly. Can someone please tell him not to jump into a volcano?
― Bonobo Vox (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 8 August 2023 19:20 (eight months ago) link
the op-ed has 4000 comments from incensed libs
"We did it again!" the members of the Times editorial board wheeze from behind their oxygen masks, high-fiving each other in slow motion.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 8 August 2023 19:28 (eight months ago) link
idk it probably wouldn't have been as much fun as you think. when Trump was hospitalized you had people like Rachel Maddow, Stephen Colbert, and Morning Joe all saying shit like "obviously I disagree with him on many things, but he's still the President and we pray for him to have a speedy recovery" which felt truly deranged to me. I mean these are people who got on TV 4-5 days a week to talk about how terrible this dude was for the country and how he was pretty much singlehandedly getting people killed during the pandemic, and now we have to *pray* for him? fuck off. he got Covid because he held a huge event in celebration of the death of RBG, the exact sort of mass gathering that every doctor in the country was saying you shouldn't do. if he died it would 100% be because he deserved it and the entire country would be unambigiously better off for it. yet I bet anything if it had actually happened you'd have wall-to-wall "respectful" coverage of his passing in a way that would've made him a martyr and the first big media personality to imply that he had it coming would immediately lose their job.
― frogbs, Tuesday, 8 August 2023 19:37 (eight months ago) link
Can someone please tell him not to jump into a volcano?
Yeah, sure, but with our luck there would be a perfectly timed blast of cooler air that just lifts him back and gently sets him down from whence he leapt, cursing us to another year of his continued existence.
(NB this isn't a commentary of the "oh whenever will he face legal consequences" ilk, just more about his consistent dumb luck in failing upwards despite his best efforts)
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 8 August 2023 19:44 (eight months ago) link
lol I can't imagine a bunch of corporate media people saying, "Burn in hell President Dickhead!"
― hardcore technician gimmicks are also another popular choice f (President Keyes), Tuesday, 8 August 2023 19:45 (eight months ago) link
yeah, if he died the whole nation would have been forced to act real sad by both Maga chuds and tone-policing centrists. It would have sucked. Instead his humiliation to losing...to Joe Fucking Biden, was the truly great end.
― Chevy Chase drumming mystery (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 8 August 2023 19:49 (eight months ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/zkgCFxy.gif
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 8 August 2023 19:51 (eight months ago) link
I guess I'm too uptight but it does genuinely bug me when people on the left who otherwise despise him are like "he's so funny! I hope this king never dies so we won't ever be denied moments like this" in response to the latest dumbass thing that he's said during a rally or whatever. I am incapable of enjoying anything about him or any aspect of his personal presentation, no matter how much of an ironic remove I situate myself at. I find him repellent in an absolute sense, and I don't want to see or hear from him ever again.
Should I loosen up and enjoy the ride as he enters his late Elvis phase and starts to morph into irl something like how Eli Valley depicts him? Maybe... but when he calls Chris Christie a fat slob or whatever I just feel like I am at the most depressing dive bar ever, listening to a drunken loudmouth regular commenting on whatever's showing on the tv overhead. Soon it will be almost a decade that he's been blasted into our consciousness on a more or less daily basis. Just a bad dream that never ends, or a particularly shitty horror movie franchise.
― dell (del), Tuesday, 8 August 2023 21:41 (eight months ago) link
Soon it will be almost a decade that he's been blasted into our consciousness on a more or less daily basis.
Imagine having grown up in the East Coast media market and knowing the fucker by face, name and reputation for 40 years, maybe longer. In New York and New Jersey, he's been famous — and a famous piece of shit — for pretty much my entire life.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 8 August 2023 21:45 (eight months ago) link
I guess I'm too uptight but it does genuinely bug me when people on the left who otherwise despise him are like "he's so funny! I hope this king never dies so we won't ever be denied moments like this"
About that last sentence -- wow, you know people who've said this?
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 8 August 2023 21:49 (eight months ago) link
yea I feel that's overstating it, I think it's possible to hate his guts and still think he does shit that's funny, I know a lot of people who feel that way who think him potentially dying of Covid would've been the funniest thing ever
I do admit I've got pretty mixed feelings about those Twitter personalities who made their entire shtick "look at this dumb asshole", feel like they've got a pretty symbiotic relationship with him that makes that shit tough to watch. like that lady who got a billion views just lip synching Trump speeches, that shit fucking sucked
― frogbs, Tuesday, 8 August 2023 22:12 (eight months ago) link
I mean it in no complimentary way whatsoever to acknowledge his showmanship and weird sort of charisma. Those are both key to successful authoritarian figures. It’s not that I in any way enjoy him, I just recognize that for all his ludicrous lunacy he has actual political strengths that (obviously) we underestimate at our peril.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 8 August 2023 22:21 (eight months ago) link
Every day I pray for a chicken or fish bone to do its deadly chore, but then I realize he only eats chicken tenders shaped like dinosaurs, and never eats fish outside of an annual shrimp cocktail
― Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 8 August 2023 22:27 (eight months ago) link
It's like denying that Reagan had genuine political gifts -- the guy won in two electoral landslides, he must have done a lot to woo Dems.
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 8 August 2023 22:46 (eight months ago) link
The thing is Trumps political instincts are terrible. He got jack shit done in office and permanently alienated a bunch of the base. He keeps backing the biggest freaks possible many of whom go on to lose races that shouldn’t have even been close. He was literally attacking the country’s World Cup team just a few days ago. What he’s good at is television. He knows how to chuck red meat and how to get himself on the news. He knows that being the GOP nominee means you can say and do whatever the fuck you want and no one will hold you accountable. He won the nom in 2016 because he was the most shameless and nakedly racist. That seems a lot different to me than what Reagan had, even as shameless and racist as that guy was
― frogbs, Tuesday, 8 August 2023 22:52 (eight months ago) link
Btw I know you’re not comparing the two Alf just remarking it’s a very different thing, Reagan definitely did know how to court moderates and centrist Dems, I can’t imagine Trump winning over a single 2020 Biden voter in 2024, he just has no clue how to do anything but pull ratings
― frogbs, Tuesday, 8 August 2023 22:57 (eight months ago) link
Keep 'em coming:
Fulton County DA Fani Willis, who has been investigating Donald Trump and his allies' efforts to overturn the Georgia 2020 election results, is likely to go before the grand jury next week to present her case, sources tell ABC News. https://t.co/TpLKqedGhe— Olivia Rubin (@OliviaRubinABC) August 8, 2023
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 8 August 2023 22:58 (eight months ago) link
Reagan was a middling actor who made his political bones by betraying his friends. That pretty much set the tone for the rest of his life.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 8 August 2023 23:00 (eight months ago) link
― frogbs,
No, I know you don't think so! I'm saying that acknowledging the enemy's gifts isn't endorsement.
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 8 August 2023 23:04 (eight months ago) link
and like you I've spent hundreds of hours at this point reminding my Dem base in South Florida that it's been downhill for Trump since 2016.
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 8 August 2023 23:05 (eight months ago) link
xp There was actually a thing called a 'Reagan democrat' and they numbered in the tens of thousands... I'm sure Trump converted a handful in 2016 but none in 2020
― Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 8 August 2023 23:06 (eight months ago) link
It didn't help that the Dems in 84 ran . . . Walter Mondale.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 8 August 2023 23:07 (eight months ago) link
There was actually a thing called a 'Reagan democrat' and they numbered in the tens of thousands..
More than that if you count both presidential elections and what went on for the next 20 years
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 8 August 2023 23:10 (eight months ago) link
There's an old Mondale event poster in a liquor store on San Pablo Ave on the Oakland/Emeryville border... 'Featuring Gov. Jerry Brown"
I have no idea why they haven't taken it down
― Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 8 August 2023 23:14 (eight months ago) link
The thing is Trumps political instincts are terrible.
This is true but it also supposes that he cares about politics as we think of them. If you view this all as the grandest prima donna act in a life full of them — a relentless need and urge to be bigger and bigger and bigger — rather than as some kind of political enterprise, I think he makes more sense. Of course people around him are using him for political ends, and he's happy for them to do it as long as they put him in front of adoring crowds, but also he's constantly getting in the way of their political ends because most of them he doesn't really care about. (Except, like, the racist and sexist ones, he's fully on board with those.)
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 8 August 2023 23:47 (eight months ago) link
Which is to say, Trump and Reagan wanted different things from politics and the presidency. Reagan cared about both in ways Trump never will.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 8 August 2023 23:48 (eight months ago) link
xps my dad (who is horrible but that's not relevant to this example) literally voted Republican/Reagan for the first time in his life b/c he hated Mondale so much
― out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Tuesday, 8 August 2023 23:49 (eight months ago) link
I'm saying that acknowledging the enemy's gifts isn't endorsement.
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn)
see the thing is framing it as a "gift" I think implies a level of skill that may not be there. its true that being an abrasive asshole loudmouth who speaks off the cuff and doesn't learn shit got him really far in life, but it's also true that this is a country where those born rich can do no wrong, with a legal system where you can stymie pretty much any lawsuit by just bleeding the plantiff dry and a tax system where rich property owners can effectively pay nothing. and of course a political & media system that really loves controversy. I mean this is a country that briefly made Charlie Sheen its biggest celebrity when he was going through a mental breakdown and allowed the "cash me outside" girl to bank millions of dollars for no reason at all. We made the Jersey Shore cast household names and the Kardashians billionaires. By the way I'm not saying anything bad about those folks, I have nothing against any of them, just saying Trump strikes me as a uniquely American thing. Fascists and racists and authoratarians can and do win elections all over the globe but Trump feels like a guy who could only win in America. You think his approval rating was low here? Every poll ran outside of America revealed that 85% of the planet thought Trump was a tremendous dipshit.
so like, if he was actually 'gifted', or was indeed some kind of "master wizard" as the Dilbert guy liked to say, surely he could leverage that shit a bit better? he was reduced to a babbling maniac on the debate stage by...Joe Biden. he floated tremendously dumb ideas constantly and immediately had to either walk them back or spend weeks insisting people heard him wrong. literally every single person who's ever worked for him says he's a moron who's trivially easy to manipulate. he was played like a fiddle by Steve Bannon, the guy commiting fraud in broad daylight who is currently suggesting that a Trump/RFK ticket would unite the nation. so does he actually have gifts or do we live in one sick fuck of a nation?
― frogbs, Wednesday, 9 August 2023 00:19 (eight months ago) link
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F3BuPzfXkAAadG9.jpg
Just want to interject that he looks like a Frank Miller drawing of himself at this point.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 9 August 2023 00:27 (eight months ago) link
EMERGENCY EYEWASH STATION
― out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Wednesday, 9 August 2023 00:31 (eight months ago) link
Obviously Trump has unusual political abilities. Tons of people with more political experience than him and much savvier political teams have tried to get elected president and failed. It's not an easy thing to do, especially running as he did the first time with no real infrastructure or even any real clue about how to go about it. It's not giving him credit to say he has actual political talents, it's just acknowledging the obvious. That doesn't make him "smart," obviously, but ask Liz Warren how far smart gets you.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 9 August 2023 00:52 (eight months ago) link
If we accept that the man is trivially easy to manipulate then it becomes much harder to explain why he always ends up doing exactly as he pleases in spite of dozens of his closest political advisors, defense lawyers, members of Congress and sitting judges trying to persuade him to do otherwise, including Steve Bannon, who was tossed aside and verbally abused just like every other person who enters his inner circle. The manipulators seem to have a very poor track record imo.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 9 August 2023 00:56 (eight months ago) link
xxxpost Donald Trump as Flattop in...Dick Tracy
― linoleum gallagher (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 9 August 2023 01:13 (eight months ago) link
I think that’s more down to the fact that, as every book written about him claims, he only remembers what the last person he talked to said
― frogbs, Wednesday, 9 August 2023 01:14 (eight months ago) link
he got Covid because he held a huge event in celebration of the death of RBG, the exact sort of mass gathering that every doctor in the country was saying you shouldn't do.
lmao I forgot about this.
― treeship., Wednesday, 9 August 2023 01:16 (eight months ago) link
― Prop Dramedy (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 9 August 2023 01:24 (eight months ago) link
there is a method to how he conducts himself. he treats everyone and everything around him with contempt, as if life itself is a joke. this makes a certain % of people love him as they wish they too were liberated from moral constraints. and then for the people who try to stop him, they just end up embarrassing themselves. ever try to discipline an unruly kid and then have the kid laugh at you? that’s what it’s like to criticize him.
― treeship., Wednesday, 9 August 2023 01:26 (eight months ago) link
he was reduced to a babbling maniac on the debate stage by...Joe Biden.
― toenail fungus (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 9 August 2023 01:44 (eight months ago) link
By the way I'm not saying anything bad about those folks, I have nothing against any of them
Oh, I do. This country worships absolute morons. Maybe that’s true elsewhere, I dunno, but thanks for reminding me that a dumb, affected teenager could signed to a recording contract thanks to an appearance on Jerry Springer. (many do)
― Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 9 August 2023 01:45 (eight months ago) link
That was supposed to say many xp, stupid phone.
― Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 9 August 2023 01:48 (eight months ago) link
It's not an easy thing to do, especially running as he did the first time with no real infrastructure or even any real clue about how to go about it.
Who needs campaign infrastructure when you can just tweet out dumb shit 24/7 and have the media run your campaign for you?? If you can attack CNN nonstop and have them reward you by broadcasting footage of an empty podium you’re set to speak at while your opponent is giving policy speeches why do you need to know how to do anything at all?
― frogbs, Wednesday, 9 August 2023 01:54 (eight months ago) link
― out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Wednesday, 9 August 2023 01:57 (eight months ago) link
i wish a hacker org could somehow mute all text and vid from trump it’d make it better and make him nuts.
― toenail fungus (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 9 August 2023 02:03 (eight months ago) link
Trump is not uniquely gifted either, just gripped with enough survivor sense, carved out of three decades of getting away with shit, to delay prosecution, etc. And emough sense to realize the GOP base didn't give a shit about "policy" -- they wanted grievances.
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 9 August 2023 04:58 (eight months ago) link
WILL YOU SHUT UP MAN?
I still think this was the moment Biden won the election
― mh, Wednesday, 9 August 2023 14:39 (eight months ago) link
I doubt anyone had ever told Trump to shut up before.
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 9 August 2023 14:40 (eight months ago) link
both otm
― out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Wednesday, 9 August 2023 14:56 (eight months ago) link
imagine if he'd said "up your nose with a rubber hose", he'd have the Horshack vote
― linoleum gallagher (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 9 August 2023 15:03 (eight months ago) link
Would have to take it back from Romney:
In the current New Republic, the editors have this to say about Mitt Romney: "He's unbearably unctuous - the Arnold Horseshack of the race, furiously waving his hand to grab the teacher's attention."
― hardcore technician gimmicks are also another popular choice f (President Keyes), Wednesday, 9 August 2023 15:07 (eight months ago) link
trump is very funny when is not in power and very unfunny when he is in power
― c u (crüt), Wednesday, 9 August 2023 15:22 (eight months ago) link
^^^ this is otm, urgent & key
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 9 August 2023 16:04 (eight months ago) link
Civilian Trump commenting on Kristen Stewart cheating--funny
President Trump complaining about Jimmy Kimmel jokes--not funny
― hardcore technician gimmicks are also another popular choice f (President Keyes), Wednesday, 9 August 2023 16:09 (eight months ago) link
I mean laugh-at funny, tbc.
― c u (crüt), Wednesday, 9 August 2023 16:26 (eight months ago) link
NEWS: Special counsel Jack Smith obtained a search warrant for Donald Trump's Twitter account in January.A delay in compliance by the company prompted a federal judge to hold Twitter in contempt and fine the company $350,000.Details TK— Kyle Cheney (@kyledcheney) August 9, 2023
Good luck getting this info from Musk, but still.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 9 August 2023 16:34 (eight months ago) link
Aw it was nice of Elongated to buy Twitter to help further try and (badly) protect his best bud.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 9 August 2023 16:53 (eight months ago) link
Oh, wait, delay in compliance means they got what they wanted, right? Apparently the delay was because Twitter was prohibited from telling Trump they even got the warrant.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 9 August 2023 16:53 (eight months ago) link
I hold Twitter in contempt myself.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 9 August 2023 16:58 (eight months ago) link
Yeah they have what they wanted. So Smith has Trump's DMs, which are likely very moist.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 9 August 2023 17:09 (eight months ago) link
Do you think Trump was much of a DM guy? I don't; he famously dictated his tweets to an underling. (His Truth Social posts might actually come from his own fat fingers, because they're demonstrably more insane/aggrieved.) He was always a guy who called people, and took calls from basically anyone who had his number.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 9 August 2023 17:18 (eight months ago) link
he's a BM guy
― linoleum gallagher (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 9 August 2023 17:22 (eight months ago) link
Back in 2005 a pal who at the time covered government for the Palm Beach Post was reporting on how neighbors near the airport were irritated by increasing air traffic. His editor asked him to call Trump at Mar-a-Lago. To my friend's amazement, Trump's secretary or whatever said, "He'll call you right back. Is this the number he can reach you?" And voila Trump himself called two minutes later, talked his ear off for 15-20 minutes. Then Trump called him back two days later to compliment him on the story ("You need anything? Let me know").
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 9 August 2023 17:23 (eight months ago) link
I don't; he famously dictated his tweets to an underlingNo, you could famously tell which were written by staffers and which were blasted out on the can by his own thumbs from the “sent from iphone” labels
― serving bundt (sic), Wednesday, 9 August 2023 18:11 (eight months ago) link
Trump is funny in the same way Vince McMahon is, except Vince has the self-awareness to *know* he's playing a heel, and that therefore the audience actually wants to see him get his ass kicked or leave in a huff after getting shown up, whereas Trump is famously prickly anytime he thinks something makes him "look bad".
also, as crut says, being a horrible asshole is only funny when they don't actually have any power. I think the dudes on It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia are hilarious but I probably wouldn't want to know them in real life
― frogbs, Wednesday, 9 August 2023 18:23 (eight months ago) link
Yeah, you can what Vince is like from what Trump does, and vice versa.
Both dudes had similar backgrounds in coming from abusive households with rich & successful fathers who had to make their own name starting in the mid-70s in the NY metro and becoming media creatures thru the 80s trying to get acceptance by the Manhattanite establishment. They’ve worked together since at least Wrestlemania IV, which was at Trump Casino iirc.
― Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Wednesday, 9 August 2023 20:29 (eight months ago) link
Again, recommending "Ringmaster," a new bio of Vince. The connections between the two are myriad and very close, going back to Vince Sr. prompting wrestling events in Queens.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 9 August 2023 21:07 (eight months ago) link
Yup, just got this book from the library
― Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Wednesday, 9 August 2023 21:38 (eight months ago) link
https://www.newsweek.com/its-time-freak-donald-trump-very-likely-our-next-president-opinion-1818694
― Thus Sang Freud, Saturday, 12 August 2023 13:14 (eight months ago) link
oh cool -- more Newsweek clickbait
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 12 August 2023 13:31 (eight months ago) link
Newsweek's calling it! Damn. OK, so who do we have in '28?
― henry s, Saturday, 12 August 2023 13:31 (eight months ago) link
I'll sum it up: No Labels, Cornel West, Joe Biden old.
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 12 August 2023 13:32 (eight months ago) link
he didn't even mention hunter. or the biden documents case.
― Thus Sang Freud, Saturday, 12 August 2023 13:40 (eight months ago) link
Or that Woody Harrelson is campaigning for RFK Jr!
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 12 August 2023 14:01 (eight months ago) link
i can't believe Trump is President again. oh well, back to Frisky Dingo
― earosmith (Neanderthal), Saturday, 12 August 2023 14:03 (eight months ago) link
before Trump, the only two incumbent presidents to lose reelection in the last 50 years have had a strong third-party bid to deal with—Jimmy Carter in 1980 and George H.W. Bush in 1992,
impeccable logic and punctuation
― symsymsym, Saturday, 12 August 2023 16:01 (eight months ago) link
Newsweek still polling dead Republicans, I see
― out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Saturday, 12 August 2023 16:03 (eight months ago) link
NEW: we now have two of the four stand-by witnesses reporting they’ve been given their 48-hour notice to appear Tuesday. GET YOUR TOWELS READY IT’S ABOUT TO GO DOWN! Turn on notifications for @indictmentsonly! https://t.co/OO79PN6RZC— Mueller, She Wrote (@MuellerSheWrote) August 12, 2023
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 12 August 2023 18:29 (eight months ago) link
We've got him this time.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Saturday, 12 August 2023 18:31 (eight months ago) link
Another day, another legal team to assemble. But, hey, what else can you expect when you go on a multi-state crime spree?
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Saturday, 12 August 2023 18:37 (eight months ago) link
Please don’t quote Mueller she wrote please
― Chevy Chase drumming mystery (Boring, Maryland), Saturday, 12 August 2023 19:40 (eight months ago) link
can we fast-forward to the bit where he dies please?
― the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 12 August 2023 19:41 (eight months ago) link
xpost Rather.
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 12 August 2023 19:44 (eight months ago) link
Is there something wrong with that Mueller person? I don't know who she is, I just picked that one because it summed up the situation.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 12 August 2023 19:53 (eight months ago) link
Is this guy better?
Confirmed: https://t.co/Dh82ef2f1a— Hugo Lowell (@hugolowell) August 12, 2023
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 12 August 2023 19:54 (eight months ago) link
Said Mueller person is one of those very Resistance types. Big Avenatti fan when that was a thing IIRC. So no it's not the news itself, it's that ALL CAPS OMG HERE WE GO vibe.
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 12 August 2023 20:05 (eight months ago) link
Yeah it’s the style not the substance.
― Chevy Chase drumming mystery (Boring, Maryland), Saturday, 12 August 2023 20:35 (eight months ago) link
Gotcha. Persona aside, otherwise she's a legit source, right? A lot of these figures, from public health people to legal people, have online personas that irk me - I think I've unfollowed, say, Popehat as many times as I've bought and sold Jeff Buckley's album - but I try to look beyond that to whatever information and context they can provide.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 12 August 2023 20:51 (eight months ago) link
she got a lot of flak for taking a PPP loan for her podcast
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Saturday, 12 August 2023 20:58 (eight months ago) link
the thread exposing her BS appears to be suspended: https://www.reddit.com/r/behindthebastards/comments/140wrbh/i_figured_something_was_off_about_the_person/
but she lied about a lot of stuff!
― symsymsym, Saturday, 12 August 2023 21:20 (eight months ago) link
she lied about the lies she was lying about
― henry s, Saturday, 12 August 2023 21:28 (eight months ago) link
jk I have no idea who she is
― henry s, Saturday, 12 August 2023 21:29 (eight months ago) link
I hear she wrote "Mueller".
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 12 August 2023 22:37 (eight months ago) link
MSW person grifted her underpaid staff and took out PPP loans when podcasts were one of the few pandemic-proof jobs. Then it came out she was stealing valor by misstating her record and also making up details about people she knew dying iirc
― mh, Saturday, 12 August 2023 22:52 (eight months ago) link
yeah like lots of other resistance types who got a lot of attention during impeachment and pandemic (i'd add Rebekah Jones to that list) who got addicted to attention and then turned it into grift
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Saturday, 12 August 2023 23:02 (eight months ago) link
I guess some of that stuff is starting to ring a bell. Why is she followed by so many seemingly legit people then?
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 13 August 2023 00:54 (eight months ago) link
All those big resistance Twitter people thrived on creating a sense of SOMETHING BIG COMING that felt very cultlike.
― hardcore technician gimmicks are also another popular choice f (President Keyes), Sunday, 13 August 2023 01:44 (eight months ago) link
Why is she followed by so many seemingly legit people then?
because people don't get around to unfollowing and also most people probably haven't dug into all of that.
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Sunday, 13 August 2023 01:48 (eight months ago) link
Tbf something big *did* often arrive as promised, but those big things just keep piling up, and none of these turds have paid a legal price yet.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 13 August 2023 02:52 (eight months ago) link
I heard a rumor that fani willis is planning to use that georgia rico law she is using against young thug in the trump case. So trump would be charged with racketeering.
― treeship., Sunday, 13 August 2023 03:51 (eight months ago) link
I heard a rumour that fani willis say you got a broken heart
― serving bundt (sic), Sunday, 13 August 2023 08:19 (eight months ago) link
― hardcore technician gimmicks are also another popular choice f (President Keyes), Saturday, August 12, 2023 9:44 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink
Everyone on Twitter with a following due to a focus on any specific subject is very likely going to do whatever they can to maintain and drive views/engagement. Always good to keep that in mind.
― But his face would not turn into hot Kirby (Evan), Sunday, 13 August 2023 11:44 (eight months ago) link
my sources say the death penalty, for espionage, being considered for trump. i am pro-life and take no pleasure in reporting this.
― come on barbo let’s go parpo (bizarro gazzara), Sunday, 13 August 2023 12:21 (eight months ago) link
Lol Trump buried his ex-wife at his golf course and refuses to landscape her grave. pic.twitter.com/Zndbtbksa5— Justin Horwitz (@JustinAHorwitz) August 13, 2023
― lag∞n, Sunday, 13 August 2023 13:59 (eight months ago) link
couldn't ivanka like, work some filial magic, and get some cheep plastic mums on mum?
― toenail fungus (Hunt3r), Sunday, 13 August 2023 15:39 (eight months ago) link
Not looking to defend Trump or anything but I doubt he personally is specifically "refusing" to landscape her grave. I'm sure it's just that he doesn't give a shit and never visits or thinks about it and everyone between him and whoever it might be who actually is in charge of landscaping therefore doesn't have to give a shit either.
― But his face would not turn into hot Kirby (Evan), Sunday, 13 August 2023 15:46 (eight months ago) link
ehh, he's never done one thing in his life to deserve the benefit of the doubt tho
― The Terroir of Tiny Town (WmC), Sunday, 13 August 2023 15:51 (eight months ago) link
― out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Sunday, 13 August 2023 15:52 (eight months ago) link
its not even mowed, at a golf course!
― lag∞n, Sunday, 13 August 2023 15:59 (eight months ago) link
Looks like someone's been peeing on it, but tbf, that could be anyone.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 13 August 2023 16:02 (eight months ago) link
Look like some vehicle ruts there too.
― Chevy Chase drumming mystery (Boring, Maryland), Sunday, 13 August 2023 16:04 (eight months ago) link
as i understand golf the rough is as important a feature as the bunkers and the green so in a sense it's a compliment
― mark s, Sunday, 13 August 2023 16:14 (eight months ago) link
Many a golfer at that course has been stymied by the infamous Ivanka trap.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 13 August 2023 16:19 (eight months ago) link
the local mink and weasel population are known pee-ers on the grave, it's all natural. grudges.
― toenail fungus (Hunt3r), Sunday, 13 August 2023 16:20 (eight months ago) link
I Slice On Your Grave
― the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Sunday, 13 August 2023 16:20 (eight months ago) link
on the course it's an ivana trap. in donnie's brain, it's an ivanka trap.
Not looking to defend Trump or anything but I doubt he personally is specifically "refusing" to landscape her grave.
lol, sorry i was just imagining someone having to say out loud to trump "hey trump, are you going to have your ex-wife's grave cleaned up? it's a mess"
― z_tbd, Sunday, 13 August 2023 16:38 (eight months ago) link
I actually had the brief thought that surely at least her children would care about the state of her gravesite until I remembered who her children were
― Beautiful Bean Footage Fetishist (Old Lunch), Sunday, 13 August 2023 17:18 (eight months ago) link
Haha I wasn’t giving him the benefit of the doubt at all, just found the framing kinda silly.
“Thanks for personally joining this important property upkeep meeting despite everything else you have going on. Now about the grave sir, should we mow or-“
“NO! NEVER! STOP ASKING”
― But his face would not turn into hot Kirby (Evan), Sunday, 13 August 2023 17:22 (eight months ago) link
when yr slightest whims become absolute rule in yr kingdom, it’s hard for me to believe anything but intention in this case.
― toenail fungus (Hunt3r), Sunday, 13 August 2023 18:31 (eight months ago) link
I dunno, I still like MSW.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Sunday, 13 August 2023 20:36 (eight months ago) link
The dirt patches almost look like the outline of a body, like she was just laid down sans coffin
― earosmith (Neanderthal), Monday, 14 August 2023 00:37 (eight months ago) link
Trying so hard to get himself thrown in jail by a Black woman.
Holy shit. He just attacked the Judge AGAIN in D.C., this time with a picture of her. He “reposted” someone elses’ nonsense so he thinks that makes it ok? What a lunatic. pic.twitter.com/atuVnjMCjC— Spiro’s Ghost (@AntiToxicPeople) August 13, 2023
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Monday, 14 August 2023 01:17 (eight months ago) link
An eagle-eyed Reuters journalist spotted this document -- which lists Trump as the defendant in multiple felony counts -- on the Fulton County, GA, court website. Fortunately, the reporter downloaded it before it was removed. https://t.co/pmSTM0ehRK pic.twitter.com/1GaDr7QR3a— Bill Grueskin (@BGrueskin) August 14, 2023
― lag∞n, Monday, 14 August 2023 18:06 (eight months ago) link
Anything less than the best is a felony
― hardcore technician gimmicks are also another popular choice f (President Keyes), Monday, 14 August 2023 18:12 (eight months ago) link
how many felony cases do you have to pick up before youre pretty much guaranteed to go to prison even if you were once the president
― lag∞n, Monday, 14 August 2023 18:16 (eight months ago) link
also how many do you need to pick up before you are guaranteed to be president again? I'm pretty sure it loops back around at some point
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Monday, 14 August 2023 18:18 (eight months ago) link
let's find out
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 14 August 2023 18:18 (eight months ago) link
how many indictments must a man pick up before you call him sir (with tears in your eyes)?
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Monday, 14 August 2023 18:21 (eight months ago) link
13 charges against him, including RICO! that DA isn't messing around. ofc, jury selection will be Urgent & Key now. all it takes is one goddamn ringer to hang a jury.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Monday, 14 August 2023 18:25 (eight months ago) link
how many felony cases do you have to pick up before you're pretty much guaranteed to go to prison even if you were once the president
https://www.candyfavorites.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/tootsie-pop-owl-pic.jpg
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 14 August 2023 18:29 (eight months ago) link
thinking much too far ahead... if he's convicted you can bet Kemp's going to get a Trump call angling for a pardon.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Monday, 14 August 2023 18:32 (eight months ago) link
Breaking: Former Lt. Gov. Geoff Duncan and independent journalist George Chidi were both supposed to testify on Tuesday, but are now expected to meet on Monday with grand jurors at the Fulton County Courthouse https://t.co/YBYU2c32EQ with @bluestein— Tamar Hallerman (@TamarHallerman) August 14, 2023
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 14 August 2023 18:33 (eight months ago) link
Can he make a plea bargain to have all charges dropped in exchange for halting his presidential campaign and exiting the public sphere altogether forever, with the caveat that if he breaks his word (which he inevitably will, probably within <24 hours) he will immediately be jailed for life? I would be good with that. In fact I think that's the preferable option (saving time and money on a trial that isn't likely to result in criminal charges or prevent him from becoming president again). Someone get me on the horn with the Fulton Co. DA.
― Prop Dramedy (Old Lunch), Monday, 14 August 2023 18:53 (eight months ago) link
the ol' Banished to Corsica plea bargain
― z_tbd, Monday, 14 August 2023 18:55 (eight months ago) link
.....
elba
― z_tbd, Monday, 14 August 2023 18:56 (eight months ago) link
Acisroc was I ere I saw Corsica.
― Bonobo Vox (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 14 August 2023 18:58 (eight months ago) link
trenchant:https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/adnd2e/images/3/3f/Roc_2e.png
― mark s, Monday, 14 August 2023 19:02 (eight months ago) link
Can we just fire him into the sun?
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 14 August 2023 19:04 (eight months ago) link
Best thing for all concerned is that the stress of all this causes him to have a massive coronary and die, or (even better) to be permanently disabled.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 14 August 2023 19:07 (eight months ago) link
An incapacitated Trump would be, all things considered, the nightmare of a "Trump, but this time more competent" scenario come true
― fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Monday, 14 August 2023 19:10 (eight months ago) link
Can he make a plea bargain to have all charges dropped in exchange for halting his presidential campaign/
He would never do this imo, because his entire argument is that he's done nothing wrong and Dems are bringing these trials solely to disrupt his campaign.
― Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Monday, 14 August 2023 19:11 (eight months ago) link
xp, OK, so let him drop dead.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 14 August 2023 19:12 (eight months ago) link
I feel like the “DUD” is about the side of Ohio by now
― The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 14 August 2023 19:13 (eight months ago) link
haha my first impulse every time I see this thread is to say "dud" aloud
― J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Monday, 14 August 2023 19:15 (eight months ago) link
An incapacitated Trump could just wind up being a Hector Salamanca type nightmare
― omar little, Monday, 14 August 2023 19:18 (eight months ago) link
Press the bell once to approve the bill, twice to veto.
no, once again, pressing the bell 7 times doesn't mean anything.
― earosmith (Neanderthal), Monday, 14 August 2023 19:18 (eight months ago) link
xpost He'd ring the bell and just poop his pants.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 14 August 2023 19:19 (eight months ago) link
I've said this before, but I'd be 100% in favor of his being completely paralyzed, unable to move or speak, and be forced to watch Obama's 2012 roast of him on an endless loop for the rest of his miserable days.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 14 August 2023 19:37 (eight months ago) link
The Diving Bell and the MAGAfly
― earosmith (Neanderthal), Monday, 14 August 2023 19:38 (eight months ago) link
I prefer these trials happen after the election, because I want him to be rejected by the voters and lose again (please). It will cause more harm to his ego and image, plus he still gets to face four trials immediately. Then after he is found guilty at all four trials, I would prefer he die in a completely embarrassing, public, and self-inflicted way.
― il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Monday, 14 August 2023 19:44 (eight months ago) link
so much losing...
― scott seward, Monday, 14 August 2023 19:49 (eight months ago) link
i know it would probably be a terrible idea to have cameras at the Georgia trial but i would also really like to see that. so, i'm torn.
― scott seward, Monday, 14 August 2023 19:50 (eight months ago) link
Jimbeaux, an ILX poster after my own heart
― The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 14 August 2023 19:50 (eight months ago) link
The grand jury is reportedly on or around witness five of 10.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 14 August 2023 19:52 (eight months ago) link
The waiting is the hardest part.
― henry s, Monday, 14 August 2023 19:56 (eight months ago) link
― The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 14 August 2023 20:00 (eight months ago) link
when you're dreaming with a broken Trump
― earosmith (Neanderthal), Monday, 14 August 2023 20:01 (eight months ago) link
Has the jury considered that it was a perfect phone call?
― hardcore technician gimmicks are also another popular choice f (President Keyes), Monday, 14 August 2023 20:25 (eight months ago) link
Could Trump be denied bail in Georgia? Their laws on these things are somewhat more...Southern than those of the courts in which he's previously been indicted.
Weissmann: let me give you the exact words because this is the provision that the court has to find to release someone on bail in Georgia which is that the defendant poses no risk of intimidating witnesses, or otherwise obstructing the administration of justice. pic.twitter.com/UbAxKZTGN7— Acyn (@Acyn) August 14, 2023
― but also fuck you (unperson), Monday, 14 August 2023 21:22 (eight months ago) link
Supposedly the courthouse usually closes at 5pm sharp, but reportedly the grand jury is still in session.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 14 August 2023 21:29 (eight months ago) link
From a quarter-hour back via NYT
Judge McBurney appears again in the courtroom and tells reporters, “You didn’t go get dinner, you should have gotten dinner.” (No argument here.) Then he turns to two deputies in the courtroom and says, “There’s really only one other thing that’s going to happen today.” Asked if that means that an indictment is coming tonight, he cryptically says: “I guess you’ll have to wait and see.”
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 14 August 2023 21:41 (eight months ago) link
Could Trump be denied bail in Georgia?
First question in my mind would be whether the prosecutor specifically asks the court for denial of bail, which would take levels of chutzpah rarely observed in nature. Only then would I consider the exact wording of GA law.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Monday, 14 August 2023 22:08 (eight months ago) link
Please no Georgia spoilers!
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 14 August 2023 23:18 (eight months ago) link
Geoff Duncan, after testifying to grand jury: "If we want to win an election in 2024, it's gonna have to be somebody other than Donald Trump."
Following his testimony to the grand jury, former Georgia lieutenant governor Geoff Duncan (R) said he thinks it’s time for the Republicans to “pivot” away from Donald Trump to win. Follow along for live updates. https://t.co/QhBIB8d4kO pic.twitter.com/Pew4xi4Gij— The Washington Post (@washingtonpost) August 14, 2023
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Monday, 14 August 2023 23:58 (eight months ago) link
The sort of things Republicans say when they are former office holders who are not currently running for office and have written a book about moving the GOP beyond Trump.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 15 August 2023 00:06 (eight months ago) link
also, if we want to lose elections, we need to pivot away from Donald Trump
― Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 15 August 2023 00:09 (eight months ago) link
bad news for joe biden
― z_tbd, Tuesday, 15 August 2023 00:13 (eight months ago) link
I just watched that Duncan clip, he does not mince words
― Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 15 August 2023 00:14 (eight months ago) link
He has all the motivations he obviously has, but he is also speaking with the benefit of knowing what he got asked at the grand jury. Not that it's much of a mystery, obv.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 15 August 2023 00:19 (eight months ago) link
'worse candidate than Hershel Walker' lol
― Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 15 August 2023 00:21 (eight months ago) link
rude
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 15 August 2023 00:32 (eight months ago) link
Former Georgia lieutenant governor Geoff Duncan (R) woke up one morning to discover his political party had transformed itself into a giant cockroach. He had no explanation for this metamorphosis.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 15 August 2023 00:48 (eight months ago) link
Of course he can't help reciting the economy-porous border-etc GOP sound bite. Still a party guy.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 15 August 2023 01:02 (eight months ago) link
ten indictments
― J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Tuesday, 15 August 2023 01:29 (eight months ago) link
https://images.saymedia-content.com/.image/c_limit%2Ccs_srgb%2Cq_auto:eco%2Cw_760/MTc2MjkyODM2MDk3MDA4ODMw/ten-plagues-of-egypt-things-you-might-not-know.webp
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 15 August 2023 01:31 (eight months ago) link
Fulton County court clerk Che Alexander confirmed to reporters congregated in her office that there are 10 indictments from the grand jury on Monday night. She would not say who was indicted.
The grand jury's certification, handled in the clerk's office, also indicates that it approved 10 indictments on Monday, according to paperwork signed on camera.
TV cameras captured Judge Robert McBurney signing documents in his courtroom after they were handled in the clerk's office, but the images of the paperwork were captured before the judge gave his signature.
The paperwork indicates the grand jury didn't vote against any of the indictments presented to it on Monday. The paperwork also doesn't list any defendant names.
Before indictments were handed up by the grand jury, Alexander told reporters that it could take her office as long as three hours to process any indictments before they are unsealed and made available to the public.
― out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Tuesday, 15 August 2023 01:31 (eight months ago) link
according to paperwork signed on camera.
erm, in camera innit?
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 15 August 2023 01:43 (eight months ago) link
grammar policing is classism FYI
― out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Tuesday, 15 August 2023 01:46 (eight months ago) link
so you think I'm a classy guy? thx
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 15 August 2023 01:48 (eight months ago) link
Some talk/clarification that not all of those 10 indictments handed down today were necessarily about the Trump stuff.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 15 August 2023 02:35 (eight months ago) link
give meone more 'dictcos I can't wait forever
― earosmith (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 15 August 2023 02:50 (eight months ago) link
curious if they got any other big names in this. like idk Lindsey Graham :)
― frogbs, Tuesday, 15 August 2023 02:52 (eight months ago) link
BREAKING: Donald Trump has been charged in Fulton County along with:
-JEFF CLARK-MIKE ROMAN-DAVIND SHAFER
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 15 August 2023 02:55 (eight months ago) link
THE CHARGES AGAINST TRUMP: pic.twitter.com/OcUqGTI4r4— Kyle Cheney (@kyledcheney) August 15, 2023
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 15 August 2023 02:56 (eight months ago) link
So, "13 felony charges against Trump, including RICO, conspiracy to commit forgery, filing false documents, Solicitation of Violation of Oath by Public Officer and more."
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 15 August 2023 02:57 (eight months ago) link
Buncha other names here, too:
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/23909543-23sc188947-criminal-indictment
Rudy, Eastman, Chesebro, Meadows, Jenna Ellis ...
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 15 August 2023 02:59 (eight months ago) link
Rico, whoah ohh whoah oh whoah ohh
― henry s, Tuesday, 15 August 2023 03:01 (eight months ago) link
They got the whole gang! Just the thought of all of those idiots lawyering up against each other is delightful.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 15 August 2023 03:04 (eight months ago) link
Reportedly 30 unindicted co-conspirators.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 15 August 2023 03:04 (eight months ago) link
Sidney Powell charged too
― earosmith (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 15 August 2023 03:09 (eight months ago) link
Per NYT and of course
Trump is already sending fundraising emails about the indictment.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 15 August 2023 03:16 (eight months ago) link
The Fulton Co. GA District Attorney's Office should set up a GoFundMe account. I'd be willing to help defray their expenses in pursuit of this nationally important case to the tune of, oh, at least $100 or thereabouts.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 15 August 2023 03:19 (eight months ago) link
amazing all that dumb bullshit he was saying when calling into OAN is listed on the indictment
― frogbs, Tuesday, 15 August 2023 03:26 (eight months ago) link
Well, there you go: a RICO conviction in GA imposes a mandatory 5 year sentence not subject to probation.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 15 August 2023 03:49 (eight months ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73GefWWmSBo
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 15 August 2023 03:54 (eight months ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8_f3kJOX_8
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 15 August 2023 03:56 (eight months ago) link
currently singing "Lido Shuffle" to the tune of "RICO Shuffle"
― out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Tuesday, 15 August 2023 03:56 (eight months ago) link
Once the flames begin to catchThe wind will blow it higher
Oh RICO, RICO, because RICOOh RICO, RICO, because RICO...The man is dead
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 15 August 2023 04:00 (eight months ago) link
just a reminder the first Republican debate is in 9 days and even though Trump says he's not doing it you know he can't resist
― frogbs, Tuesday, 15 August 2023 04:00 (eight months ago) link
Trump probably couldn't make a RICO UNSUAVE reference.
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 15 August 2023 04:01 (eight months ago) link
I like the way that ILX posters often respond to events with good-natured puns involving old rock song lyrics, even when I often don't know the songs (and I don't know what RICO means here either).
― the pinefox, Tuesday, 15 August 2023 10:22 (eight months ago) link
you need to start following some US youtube true crime accounts to complete your education!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 15 August 2023 10:24 (eight months ago) link
one thing I have learned is that Epshteyn is pronounced the same way as Epstein.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 15 August 2023 10:32 (eight months ago) link
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Monday, August 14, 2023 10:04 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink
❤️
― The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 15 August 2023 10:42 (eight months ago) link
Christmas all year! And all next year! And probably the year after that, and …
amusing word-choice in the (first) giuliani section of the wikipedia article on the RICO act: "The Gambino crime family boss Paul Castellano evaded conviction when he and his underboss, Thomas Bilotti, were murdered on the streets of Midtown Manhattan on December 16, 1985"
― mark s, Tuesday, 15 August 2023 11:02 (eight months ago) link
*fingers crossed* obviously
― Monthly Python (Tom D.), Tuesday, 15 August 2023 11:09 (eight months ago) link
it is pretty wild that rudys getting ricoed
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 15 August 2023 11:17 (eight months ago) link
meanwhile this is my truth what's yrs: J6 was foiled by DC's system of ROUNDABOUTS, which terrified and confused the insurgency
― mark s, Tuesday, 15 August 2023 11:28 (eight months ago) link
("traffic cicles" for those who terrified and confused by the word roundabout)
― Chevy Chase drumming mystery (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 15 August 2023 11:51 (eight months ago) link
Not every insurgent got stuck in a DC traffic circle, but every one of them that did formed a band.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 15 August 2023 11:51 (eight months ago) link
― Chevy Chase drumming mystery (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 15 August 2023 11:52 (eight months ago) link
Heh.
BTW, the expensive icing on this indictment cake is that while Trump may have an army of fundraisers paying his legal fees, most of the other assholes indicted along with him (and in allegiance to him) don't have deep pockets. Someone like Trump makes even criminality seem mundane, but for normal people it's generally a good rule of thumb to not get indicted.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 15 August 2023 11:56 (eight months ago) link
I see this batshit MAGA opera ending with Trump besting Giuliani in a duel (w/45s) on 5th Ave. and then, course, winning the election.
― avoid boring people, Tuesday, 15 August 2023 11:58 (eight months ago) link
^^^Is “boring” an adjective, a verb, or a proper name.
― Chevy Chase drumming mystery (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 15 August 2023 12:16 (eight months ago) link
Heading to Georgia now. See you soon!— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) January 4, 2021
― frogbs, Tuesday, 15 August 2023 13:06 (eight months ago) link
alright man have a great time
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 15 August 2023 13:07 (eight months ago) link
LAW & ORDER!— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) May 31, 2020
― frogbs, Tuesday, 15 August 2023 13:26 (eight months ago) link
xxxp - I use boring as verb and adjective.
― avoid boring people, Tuesday, 15 August 2023 13:28 (eight months ago) link
― The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 15 August 2023 13:31 (eight months ago) link
The January 4, 2021 tweet
Given that we're at the point where the notion of a non-teflon human being circumventing this shit strains credulity to the point of structural meltdown, I am entertaining any and all theories on how ol' DT manages to wriggle his way out of this one. I mean, I assume it'll happen, I just don't understand how.
― Prop Dramedy (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 15 August 2023 13:31 (eight months ago) link
Maybe on a technicality, like how Bill Cosby got let out of jail? But there seem to be so many moving criminal parts here - has he hit 100 indictments yet? - that it's just as likely he dies before really paying a legal price, like Roger Ailes did.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 15 August 2023 13:36 (eight months ago) link
And, well, more charges and indictments will probably follow. I can’t imagine how exhausting staying on top of all the legal stuff is if you have to do to for a living.
― The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 15 August 2023 13:40 (eight months ago) link
Watching even five seconds of MSNBC yesterday was exhausting. I had to turn it off and watch Adam's Rib.
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 15 August 2023 13:43 (eight months ago) link
that's true every day
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Tuesday, 15 August 2023 13:44 (eight months ago) link
So when dum dum *does* die, I wonder how hard it will be for his army of morons to accept? Or will we be seeing Trump campaign posters for decades to come, promoting the unbeatable dream team of Trump, JFK and Jesus?
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 15 August 2023 13:46 (eight months ago) link
I doubt JFK would be included.
― Monthly Python (Tom D.), Tuesday, 15 August 2023 13:48 (eight months ago) link
Mussolini maybe.
― Monthly Python (Tom D.), Tuesday, 15 August 2023 13:49 (eight months ago) link
They'll accept it immediately because there's a narrative for that: the Dems and MSM hounded him to death.
― The Terroir of Tiny Town (WmC), Tuesday, 15 August 2023 13:49 (eight months ago) link
Enh, there'll still be the batshit minority posting "he's not really dead" conspiracy theories.
― Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 15 August 2023 13:55 (eight months ago) link
Trumpers love JFK. They're sundowning boomers living in the past, who don't have a consistent politics.
― Chevy Chase drumming mystery (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 15 August 2023 13:59 (eight months ago) link
Hmm, how about a slate of Trump, Jesus and Walt Disney? Seems like a winner to me. I mean, Walt's been on deck for decades. "Put me in, coach, I'm ready to thaw!"
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 15 August 2023 14:00 (eight months ago) link
How can Hillary not go full Moe Greene at this point? "And this creep wanted to lock me up? No, no--you don't lock me up, I lock you up." Profound sadness? Honestly, who is she performing for at this point? Let loose with some gloating.
https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2023/08/15/hillary-clinton-reaction-trump-indictments-cnntm-vpx.cnn
― clemenza, Tuesday, 15 August 2023 14:12 (eight months ago) link
She's got to stay relatively fair and neutral so that what she says does not come back to haunt her when she runs for president again in 2028.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 15 August 2023 14:14 (eight months ago) link
So I have a Trump loving uncle, complete with a Trump flag in front of his house, that I'm honestly expecting to learn he actually was at January 6th any day now. Anyway, I try my hardest to minimize contact with him, which is fairly easy, but he was at my nephew's birthday party over the weekend and my cousin couldn't resist winding him up a little. My favorite was the exchange that caused him to get in his truck and leave...
MAGA uncle: "Why didn't Al Gore get indicted for when he tried to steal the 2000 election? Huh?"
my cousin: "Because he legally handled it through the courts and gave up when he lost the case? You do realize they are not comparable at all, don't you?"
MAGA uncle: "You liberal loonies are all the same, brainwashed fucking idiots."
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 15 August 2023 14:37 (eight months ago) link
fair point
― hardcore technician gimmicks are also another popular choice f (President Keyes), Tuesday, 15 August 2023 14:39 (eight months ago) link
it is kinda funny that Republicans have increasingly adopted the fringe-left lingo, like calling everyone 'sheep' and telling everyone to 'wake up'. that's the type of thing I used to hear at like, an anti-Iraq War rally.
― earosmith (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 15 August 2023 14:40 (eight months ago) link
only they do it while all sharing the same memes and c&ping the same posts on social media and not noticing the irony
and now they hate the Iraq War too!
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 15 August 2023 14:40 (eight months ago) link
Wasn’t fake news first used by the left in regards to Fox?
― Heez, Tuesday, 15 August 2023 14:42 (eight months ago) link
Elites etc
― Monthly Python (Tom D.), Tuesday, 15 August 2023 14:44 (eight months ago) link
My fave conservative line is that all these indictments will help Trump. Stuff like (and this is an actual comment I saw) "I know a ton of fence sitters who are now full MAGA because this 'indictment' is an attempt to jail a political opponent." Like all these supposed fence-sitters have been neutral about Trump's endless legal and ethical malfeasance, but this is where they finally rise up with righteousness and reverence for tradition and the rule of law?
Though tbf I shouldn't even bother calling bullshit on it, since I have to remind myself the internet is still rife with bots and trolls and bad actors just there to cause trouble and instill fear and doubt.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 15 August 2023 14:44 (eight months ago) link
― Heez, Tuesday, August 15, 2023 10:42 AM bookmarkflaglink
yeah, and there was a series of news articles between the time Trump won and inauguration warning people against 'fake news' articles on dubious web sites, which put the phrase more heavily into the mainstream and he seized on it and repurposed it.
― earosmith (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 15 August 2023 14:45 (eight months ago) link
max's c-span appearance around that time was probably the first i became aware of the term
― c u (crüt), Tuesday, 15 August 2023 14:51 (eight months ago) link
max's c-span appearance was the original fake news
― mh, Tuesday, 15 August 2023 14:54 (eight months ago) link
I remember that vividly, and the feeling when the term 'fake news' started slipping away and getting coopted by the right. It seemed so blatant and foreboding at the time, that might have been when I realized 'oh this is how everything is going to be now.'
― Random Restaurateur (Jordan), Tuesday, 15 August 2023 14:55 (eight months ago) link
love the implication that there are hordes of moderates/Dem voters who think Trump is a normal and reasonable guy who is being persecuted for political reasons. funny how that logic only applies to Trump and not Hillary or Biden
― frogbs, Tuesday, 15 August 2023 14:56 (eight months ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68iBVqJwO-E
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 15 August 2023 15:16 (eight months ago) link
xpost Trump's primary legacy will be the ease with which he dropped a nuke into the very heart of epistemology. Constituent reality and reasoned argument are going to be nursing their wounds for decades to come and may never fully return to their pre-2006 state.
― Prop Dramedy (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 15 August 2023 15:33 (eight months ago) link
^^^ yeah from faked moon landings, to flat-earthers, to JFK Jr.'s return, to Biden really being an imposter in a rubber mask (friend of mine's brother fully believes that last one) truth has taken a hard hit.
― Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 15 August 2023 15:42 (eight months ago) link
very funny to use lazy conspiratorial thinking for something that you know the actual facts
https://i.imgur.com/P1t9pZt.png
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 15 August 2023 15:45 (eight months ago) link
He's actually calling himself the "former President of the United States" now? Progress!
― fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Tuesday, 15 August 2023 15:48 (eight months ago) link
"former President of the United States, me"https://s43095.pcdn.co/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/burton2.gif
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 15 August 2023 15:49 (eight months ago) link
congratulations to all the tshirt sellers meme posters and so forth your time is now
BREAKING: Former President Trump will have his mugshot taken when he’s arraigned in Fulton County Georgia, per Sheriff Pat Labat.— Reda (@RedaMor_) August 15, 2023
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 15 August 2023 15:52 (eight months ago) link
Trump will probably sell his own mugshot T-shirts saying FRAMED or something. If anyone's going to make money off his face surely he'll want a cut.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 15 August 2023 15:59 (eight months ago) link
no doubt
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 15 August 2023 16:02 (eight months ago) link
He's going to sell "framed" copies of his mugshot, and if he doesn't, someone should.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 15 August 2023 16:07 (eight months ago) link
Wait, Sheriff Pat Labat? That's awesome.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 15 August 2023 16:08 (eight months ago) link
I can reveal that Sheriff Pat owns two rescue pups named Rico Hugo & Finesse.
― nashwan, Tuesday, 15 August 2023 16:18 (eight months ago) link
We’ve been here before and just in the last decade, w/r/t smiling politician and mugshots
https://api.time.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/political-mugshots-edwards-perry-delay.jpg
https://time.com/6268215/politicians-mug-shots-smiling/
― Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Tuesday, 15 August 2023 16:28 (eight months ago) link
Tom Cruise, Willian DaFoe, Nathan Lane
― But his face would not turn into hot Kirby (Evan), Tuesday, 15 August 2023 16:31 (eight months ago) link
― toenail fungus (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 15 August 2023 16:39 (eight months ago) link
just catching up on news, just saw that 18 others were charged. fuck yes. fuck all of these people.
are there any other ga-style investigations going on in other states? there is 0% chance that trump and gang of total idiots didn't try to do the same thing in several states
― z_tbd, Tuesday, 15 August 2023 18:57 (eight months ago) link
I wonder how many of those 18 are gonna take deals to testify... probably more than a few, now that they know just where this is going
― Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 15 August 2023 19:08 (eight months ago) link
And Trump can't even promise them pardons to dissuade them. (Which is probably a good thing for him, because he definitely would and it would definitely leak and then he'd get charged with bribery on top of everything else.)
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 15 August 2023 19:13 (eight months ago) link
the only similar case I know of is the one in which fake electors were charged in Michigan
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Tuesday, 15 August 2023 19:40 (eight months ago) link
All of whom have, I believe, pleaded not guilty
― fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Tuesday, 15 August 2023 19:40 (eight months ago) link
So pleased to see charges against the piece of shit asshole lawyer with the leather fedora
― realistic pillow (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, 15 August 2023 19:42 (eight months ago) link
I beg your pardon, m'lady.
― hardcore technician gimmicks are also another popular choice f (President Keyes), Tuesday, 15 August 2023 19:45 (eight months ago) link
I am not a lawyer, but I imagine it's rare for many people to plead guilty right off the bat. You start with "not guilty" and then you have some I guess in a sense negative leverage. That is, you can offer a guilty plea in return for deals/perks/giving the prosecutor an automatic win while saving them the time and resources. Plead guilty from the start and you don't get jack.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 15 August 2023 19:53 (eight months ago) link
Trump said Tuesday that he plans to reveal his “large, complex, detailed, but irrefutable” report at a press conference in Bedminster, N.J., next Monday, noting this report should result in the charges dropped against him and 18 others in (Georgia)...
Haha... hopefully written by Devin Nunes
― Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 15 August 2023 20:02 (eight months ago) link
xp - I think that would be normal advice from any defense lawyer.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 15 August 2023 20:04 (eight months ago) link
“large, complex, detailed, but irrefutable” report
irl lol. Do none of his lawyers already have this information? He's going to drop his huge top secret bombshell at a press conference and charges will be dropped?
― Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 15 August 2023 20:11 (eight months ago) link
How many exclamation points in this report?
― hardcore technician gimmicks are also another popular choice f (President Keyes), Tuesday, 15 August 2023 20:20 (eight months ago) link
One could legitimately argue that releasing this 'bombshell' of a report is a furtherance of the very conspiracy he's just been indicted for - this time trying to sway potential jurors
Down in a hole, yet he keeps digging
― Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 15 August 2023 20:20 (eight months ago) link
I didn't need any further evidence that Lindsey Graham is an irredeemable piece of shit but
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opinion/lindsey-graham-don-t-indict-trump-or-impeach-him-or-vote-against-him/ar-AA1fj3Wu?ocid=iehp&cvid=29f2dfc9b02048ee82a4c43371c6fe64&ei=12#comments
― Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 15 August 2023 20:22 (eight months ago) link
Everyone who purchases the damning, bombshell report gets a free pillow at no extra cost
― Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 15 August 2023 20:28 (eight months ago) link
I haven't changed my dn in ages, so in celebration of Georgia indictment day...
― Large, Complex, Detailed but Irrefutable POST (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 15 August 2023 20:31 (eight months ago) link
I am not a lawyer, but I imagine it's rare for many people to plead guilty right off the bat.
Far and away, the usual course is to take a deal to plead to a lesser offense.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 15 August 2023 20:34 (eight months ago) link
according to paperwork signed on camera.erm, in camera innit?― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Monday, August 14, 2023 6:43 PM
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Monday, August 14, 2023 6:43 PM
"In camera" means out of the view of the press and public. So this is a rare case when "on camera" is correct.
Anyway, yay indictments
― felicity, Tuesday, 15 August 2023 20:45 (eight months ago) link
I hope the press conference is being held at a landscaping company
― Bonobo Vox (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 15 August 2023 21:20 (eight months ago) link
Jesus, Trump is a whiny little bitch.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 15 August 2023 21:37 (eight months ago) link
at a press conference in Bedminster, N.J.
"have you seen the condition of ivana's grave? are you responsible for that?" *points* "it's just over there, everyone check this shit out, it's wild!"
― juan epshteyn-- r.i.c.o., but suave tambien (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 15 August 2023 21:55 (eight months ago) link
don't think I've ever heard "in camera" before
― the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 15 August 2023 22:03 (eight months ago) link
Yeah, it means in chambers.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 15 August 2023 22:08 (eight months ago) link
Which is a fancy term for the judge's office.
the judges office is a camera? taking a picture of society... much to think about
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 15 August 2023 22:11 (eight months ago) link
The judge's eye is an all-seeing camera.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 15 August 2023 22:12 (eight months ago) link
fucking christ how deep does this go
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 15 August 2023 22:13 (eight months ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HiUiKjH2IWE
― Blecch on Blecch (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 15 August 2023 22:16 (eight months ago) link
http://www.vandergraafgenerator.co.uk/incamera.jpg
― hardcore technician gimmicks are also another popular choice f (President Keyes), Tuesday, 15 August 2023 22:40 (eight months ago) link
In ancient Mexico, judges met in an Aztec Camera
― Bonobo Vox (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 15 August 2023 22:52 (eight months ago) link
The losing side had offer themselves up for human sacrifice after paying the winner's attorney fees.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 15 August 2023 22:58 (eight months ago) link
(at the risk of coming off like a dick)"camera" just means "room" - the original "camera obscura" was a dark room with a pinhole which allowed the image of a scene to be thrown on a canvas hung on the opposite wall upside down, so the proportions and perspective could be traced directly; then they used a lens to improve the pinhole image, then some clever chemist figured how to use a photosensitive plate instead of a canvas, and then they became portable cameras.(oh no the risk was too great)
― assert (matttkkkk), Tuesday, 15 August 2023 23:02 (eight months ago) link
whatever professor
― Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 15 August 2023 23:04 (eight months ago) link
there used to be a coo camera obscura out by the beach in San Francisco, no idea if it's still there
“A Large, Complex, Detailed but Irrefutable REPORT on the Presidential Election Fraud which took place in Georgia is almost complete & will be presented by me at a major News Conference at 11:00 A.M. on Monday of next week in Bedminster, New Jersey,” he said.
“Based on the results of this CONCLUSIVE Report, all charges should be dropped against me & others — There will be a complete EXONERATION! They never went after those that Rigged the Election,” Trump continued. “They only went after those that fought to find the RIGGERS!”
is that final word some kind of dog whistle?
― Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 15 August 2023 23:06 (eight months ago) link
when is the fucking gag order already FFS
― out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Tuesday, 15 August 2023 23:11 (eight months ago) link
It sounds like some old Roy Cohn advice: "double-down, dig your heels in, and just keep repeating the talking points over and over" and I don't think that's gonna fly here
― Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 15 August 2023 23:19 (eight months ago) link
And when all else fails, just make shit up.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 15 August 2023 23:21 (eight months ago) link
Shit the Bedminster
― Bonobo Vox (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 15 August 2023 23:22 (eight months ago) link
I don't think that's gonna fly here
He's in so deep that there's no other path he can pursue except to continue to feed his base the same brazen lies. He'll keep it up even after he's convicted and hope that the sheer weight of numbers in his cult somehow shields him from any consequences. He'd MUCH rather start a violent civil war than admit he did anything wrong.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 15 August 2023 23:35 (eight months ago) link
I suppose we got the government we deserved.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 15 August 2023 23:36 (eight months ago) link
w/r/t that, I'm definitely in the "the mask finally came off" camp, this is America's id unleashed at last
― out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Tuesday, 15 August 2023 23:37 (eight months ago) link
and it has been the reality for lots of ppl for a long time
Yeah sleeve, when I think of American history I see plenty of id.
― Bonobo Vox (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 16 August 2023 00:06 (eight months ago) link
"when is the fucking gag order already FFS"
he's not going to abide by any gag order
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Wednesday, 16 August 2023 00:07 (eight months ago) link
We're finally getting the kraken!
Why do I think that this irrefutable and exonerating report will consist of nothing but that US map that shows how much more red than blue there is, plus maybe another aerial shot of his "record-setting" inaugural crowd?
― henry s, Wednesday, 16 August 2023 00:14 (eight months ago) link
Don't discount the Sharpie.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 16 August 2023 00:17 (eight months ago) link
there's a very cool one in Havana, everyone should go check that one out
― serving bundt (sic), Wednesday, 16 August 2023 00:52 (eight months ago) link
massive lol, thanks YMP
― Large, Complex, Detailed but Irrefutable POST (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 16 August 2023 01:27 (eight months ago) link
I live to serve.
― Bonobo Vox (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 16 August 2023 01:31 (eight months ago) link
Trump looks like he’s giving Laura Loomer a side quest to rescue his frog son from the pond. pic.twitter.com/AidC5NItC7— Jesse Brenneman (@Jesse_Brenneman) August 15, 2023
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 16 August 2023 02:03 (eight months ago) link
Literal LOL
Trump is really letting himself go. Yes, Don, go ahead and eat that third Quarter Pounder.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 16 August 2023 02:05 (eight months ago) link
my god his hands
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 16 August 2023 02:05 (eight months ago) link
When he sits around the jailHe sits Around the jail!
― hardcore technician gimmicks are also another popular choice f (President Keyes), Wednesday, 16 August 2023 02:21 (eight months ago) link
for the record it's an AI/Photoshop expansion of the upper left quadrant image, you can see the glitch-out a little to the right of the scoreboard
― assert (matttkkkk), Wednesday, 16 August 2023 02:30 (eight months ago) link
Yeah apparently so. Even the original photo is pretty lol tho.
The “full” photo is fake. Possibly an AI expansion of the smaller true photo. Note the weird sharp point at the right of Trump’s waist. pic.twitter.com/G8N4M6bTTv— Jeffrey Pinyan is reading AND writing (@JeffPinyan) August 16, 2023
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 16 August 2023 02:54 (eight months ago) link
Fine. The original photo is 1% less hideous.
― Large, Complex, Detailed but Irrefutable POST (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 16 August 2023 03:16 (eight months ago) link
so here was my dumb evening with loony Trumpers.
my bestie asked if I wanted to go to this local wine bar for a Jackbox night/karaoke, I said sure, sounds fun. we get there and there's like...nobody there other than the employees and one other customer. there's no karaoke, only Jackbox, but at the front, after we ordered our drinks, we noticed like....FIVE bottles of Trump wine sitting at the front, positioned like bowling pins as a centerpiece. Fuck. We had zero idea of any of that fuckery before we went.
we'd driven like 30+ minutes to get there at that point and were kinda doing the 'sunken cost' thing at that point, since we'd traveled so far and already paid for our drinks. we hoped maybe other customers who weren't looney would show.
Nope. It was us three customers and the staff only. So we're playing Jackbox and these are the least imaginative, unfunny people on the planet, every Quiplash response is some dumb sex reference that was awkwardly shoehorned in. half the time these boomers couldn't figure out technology, loudly narrating their technical issues as if there was some mustachioed, polo-shirt wearing IT guy in the room listening to them. None of them understood how any of the games worked, mostly because they talked loudly through the instructions (the one other customer sounded and acted like Victoria Jackson and spoke at a volume 30 times as loud as everyone else).
But fortunately we had avoided politics, other than one dumb "Bidenomics" reference by one of the slightly-less stupid ones in the room. but then one of the games gets temporarily delayed as one of the employees had to take care of something and my friend had to use the bathroom, so they all start chatting, and then the wheels come off. the faux-Victoria Jackson starts talking about how she still drinks Budweiser, that she didn't care about the controversy no matter how much she 'disagreed' with them, and then she and the owner of the bar start recounting times they threatened to have customers thrown in jail for minor, petty theft, and the owner talked about how she started physically wailing on the customer (a thing that I'm sure totally happened as she described it).
my friend was still in the bathroom, and then the owner starts trying to talk to me and I know it won't be good, and she starts asking me if I'd heard of some former director of ICE or whatever, and I'm like obviously looking around uncomfortably for my friend, and she starts saying how he's this guy that fights human trafficking (oh dear god, probably an Operation Underground Railroad guy) and how they had recently attempted to host him at the wine bar for a speaking engagement, and how they had all of these adoring fans of Mr Human Traffic Warrior show up, and that he had a heart attack shortly after getting out of his limousine, ruining the engagement.
so basically this is MAGA Wine, and I msged my friend COME BACK PLEASE, THESE PEOPLE ARE INSANE! we both decided we'd wrap it up fairly quickly after that and then peaced to get dinner somewhere less crazy and never go back.
― earosmith (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 16 August 2023 03:45 (eight months ago) link
the person they hosted was Thomas Homan and it HAPPENED LAST NIGHT
― earosmith (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 16 August 2023 04:00 (eight months ago) link
So you’re saying they helped give this guy a heart attack.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 16 August 2023 04:54 (eight months ago) link
Giuliani is really sharting it. I saw a legal expert saying he's in the deepest shit and his nervous protestations that RICO isn't meant for cases like this is way off the mark, cos Fani Willis has successfully used it precisely in cases like this. lol I guess he might have discovered this himself by now.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 16 August 2023 05:03 (eight months ago) link
i couldnt decide if the tone police would cheer or dud willis’s tone at her indictment presentation (and haven’t looked to see) but i’ll clap and i loved the now i’m going to get some sleep finale. coulda mike-dropped and peaced after that
― juan epshteyn-- r.i.c.o., but suave tambien (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 16 August 2023 06:01 (eight months ago) link
The discussion about Trump’s “fleets” is amazing. In sum:Judge: WTF are fleets?Twitter lawyer: No idea (!) just heard about them todaySpecial counsel: WTF are fleets?! But also, you better give us all of Donald Trump’s fleets.https://t.co/vdhI6YrskP pic.twitter.com/8oXs1wVPBw— Kyle Cheney (@kyledcheney) August 16, 2023
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 16 August 2023 15:23 (eight months ago) link
https://bluesrockreview.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/controversialgretavanfleet.jpg
― hardcore technician gimmicks are also another popular choice f (President Keyes), Wednesday, 16 August 2023 15:42 (eight months ago) link
quick q that may have a complicated a:
why don't other states prosecute trump for doing what he did in georgia? for example, pennsylvania? does it come down
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2023/08/16/trump-georgia-phone-call/
https://i.imgur.com/T4Q9Chv.png
Within days of losing the vote in Pennsylvania, Trump and his allies allegedly began pressing officials there to change that outcome by backing a slate of pro-Trump electors. The indictment points to seven calls Trump’s team made to state GOP lawmakers in late November to discuss the effort.Rudy Giuliani, then Trump’s personal lawyer, aggressively pursued state Rep. Bryan Cutler (R), then the speaker of the Pennsylvania House of Representatives, leaving him four voice mails in four days, according to the indictment. Sometimes Giuliani was joined by Jenna Ellis, another member of Trump’s legal team. Giuliani and Ellis also called Jake Corman, then the Republican president pro tempore of the state Senate. Trump called Corman separately, according to the indictment.
Rudy Giuliani, then Trump’s personal lawyer, aggressively pursued state Rep. Bryan Cutler (R), then the speaker of the Pennsylvania House of Representatives, leaving him four voice mails in four days, according to the indictment. Sometimes Giuliani was joined by Jenna Ellis, another member of Trump’s legal team. Giuliani and Ellis also called Jake Corman, then the Republican president pro tempore of the state Senate. Trump called Corman separately, according to the indictment.
https://i.imgur.com/HQET58H.png
From Nov. 22, 2020, to Jan. 4, 2021, Trump and two allies each called the Arizona House speaker.GiulianiTrump, Giuliani and John Eastmanpressured Rusty Bowers to supporttheir elector scheme in Arizona.TrumpBowers3 callsEastmanArizona was the site of some of the earliest and largest “stop the steal” protests in the days after the election. It was also where, according to the indictment, then-state House Speaker Rusty Bowers (R) rebuffed attempts by Trump and his team to reverse Biden’s win in the state.In a call with Bowers, Trump and Giuliani raised false claims about voter fraud in the state, the indictment says, and asked if he would support their effort to appoint alternate electors from Arizona. In a second call about a month later, Trump again allegedly brought up the elector scheme. Bowers pushed back, according to the indictment, telling Trump, “I voted for you. I worked for you. I campaigned for you. I just won’t do anything illegal for you.”Still, Trump’s team continued to hound him. Days before the Capitol riot, lawyer John Eastman, an architect of the brazen legal strategy to keep Trump in office, called Bowers about appointing alternate electors, according to the indictment. Bowers again refused, saying it would violate his oath of office.
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Trump, Giuliani and John Eastman
pressured Rusty Bowers to support
their elector scheme in Arizona.
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Arizona was the site of some of the earliest and largest “stop the steal” protests in the days after the election. It was also where, according to the indictment, then-state House Speaker Rusty Bowers (R) rebuffed attempts by Trump and his team to reverse Biden’s win in the state.
In a call with Bowers, Trump and Giuliani raised false claims about voter fraud in the state, the indictment says, and asked if he would support their effort to appoint alternate electors from Arizona. In a second call about a month later, Trump again allegedly brought up the elector scheme. Bowers pushed back, according to the indictment, telling Trump, “I voted for you. I worked for you. I campaigned for you. I just won’t do anything illegal for you.”
Still, Trump’s team continued to hound him. Days before the Capitol riot, lawyer John Eastman, an architect of the brazen legal strategy to keep Trump in office, called Bowers about appointing alternate electors, according to the indictment. Bowers again refused, saying it would violate his oath of office.
― z_tbd, Wednesday, 16 August 2023 16:07 (eight months ago) link
i guess since some of the calls referenced in the GA indictment were made to PA lawmakers, it's sort of covered already? it's just odd to me that he was very clearly interfering with the PA election and no one there seems to have done anything about it
― z_tbd, Wednesday, 16 August 2023 16:09 (eight months ago) link
Trump's fleets:
https://i5.walmartimages.com/asr/57077b4e-d47c-4c4d-a834-cb827911a12a_1.666df0b310969192dd414c4e489736ed.jpeg?odnWidth=612&odnHeight=612&odnBg=ffffff
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 16 August 2023 16:10 (eight months ago) link
The recorded phone call in GA is about as "I am liveblogging my crimes" as it gets, so I think that's why.
Like few other calls where he gave a specific number of votes to "find"
Georgia gov also can't pardon which helps
― earosmith (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 16 August 2023 16:12 (eight months ago) link
Since when was it illegal to just ask questions? 100% not guilty.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 16 August 2023 16:15 (eight months ago) link
I am genuinely so excited to see this exoneration report. It's gonna make Ben Carson's version of the US map look like a work of deep competence and sophistication.
― Prop Dramedy (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 16 August 2023 16:18 (eight months ago) link
It will probably be paywalled
― hardcore technician gimmicks are also another popular choice f (President Keyes), Wednesday, 16 August 2023 16:20 (eight months ago) link
You gotta respect Team Trump for keeping this thing under wraps for so many years, just to make sure every last detail is right, before releasing it to the public.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 16 August 2023 16:21 (eight months ago) link
It would be a good trick for Trump to read us a bit of the report each day for years, and we have to wait to put him in jail until he's done.
― hardcore technician gimmicks are also another popular choice f (President Keyes), Wednesday, 16 August 2023 16:22 (eight months ago) link
i see that other state leaders are still talking about pressing charges, for example, the governor of arizona yesterday
https://ktar.com/story/5528616/gov-hobbs-says-arizona-should-press-charges-against-donald-trump-over-2020-election/
PHOENIX — Gov. Katie Hobbs said Tuesday that Arizona should press charges against former president Donald Trump over potential election interference in the 2020 election.Hobbs told reporters at an event in Phoenix that Arizona Attorney General Kris Mayes should follow suit with Georgia, which indicted Trump on Monday.“Absolutely. I have been an advocate for holding folks involved in trying to overturn the will of the voters in the 2020 election accountable and this is part of that process,” Hobbs, a Democrat, said.
Hobbs told reporters at an event in Phoenix that Arizona Attorney General Kris Mayes should follow suit with Georgia, which indicted Trump on Monday.
“Absolutely. I have been an advocate for holding folks involved in trying to overturn the will of the voters in the 2020 election accountable and this is part of that process,” Hobbs, a Democrat, said.
add to his pile of doom please
― z_tbd, Wednesday, 16 August 2023 16:22 (eight months ago) link
It's the T to the R to the UMPAnd if you charge me three times then I'll beat all threeCrooked Dems and Sleepy Joe in all their dishonor hate meBut when the judges get to rulin they'll all exonerate me
― earosmith (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 16 August 2023 16:22 (eight months ago) link
The game is Trump tight, ain't no need for you to boo me'Cause after its over, all you hoes gonna want to sue me
― hardcore technician gimmicks are also another popular choice f (President Keyes), Wednesday, 16 August 2023 16:27 (eight months ago) link
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 16 August 2023 16:30 (eight months ago) link
he wanted to count stacks in front of an audience
― earosmith (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 16 August 2023 16:34 (eight months ago) link
when that call came out with the Georgia Secretary of State I remember a number of Twitter legal guys going "this is really bad, you don't wanna do this anywhere but especially not in Georgia" for reasons I can't really recall right now
― frogbs, Wednesday, 16 August 2023 16:53 (eight months ago) link
“add to his pile of doom please”
PLEASE
Also lol Neanderthal
― The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 16 August 2023 17:06 (eight months ago) link
xp no pardons, among other issues
― out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Wednesday, 16 August 2023 17:08 (eight months ago) link
yeah I think a lot of left-leaning politicians are hesitant to give Trump anything he can turn into a victory and if you're in a state where the Governor leans R and he can pardon Trump, it may feel more like losing to indict him
― earosmith (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 16 August 2023 17:10 (eight months ago) link
I think all that Georgia could do to interfere in this case is attempt to dismiss the lead prosecutor but even that requires a high bar to do
― earosmith (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 16 August 2023 17:11 (eight months ago) link
I know a bunch of pundits said Trump getting impeached but not removed was a big win for him but I don't think there's any evidence that's actually the case
― frogbs, Wednesday, 16 August 2023 17:17 (eight months ago) link
His big win was the absence of a devastating loss, which created just enough ambiguity in regard to his criminal activities to let him be the presumptive Republican nominee and keep the party apparatchiks securely in his pocket.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 16 August 2023 17:28 (eight months ago) link
not at all. people, well-meaning and well, stupid, all seem to look incorrectly at the way he got elected in the first place. He benefitted from facing a candidate who was also historically unpopular due to her last name, Benghazi, and being investigated by the FBI, and the free coverage networks all provided him because they thought he had no chance.
the "Dems need to do soul-searching and reconnect with the Rust Belt" narrative was always a complete joke, like, sure, yes, they need to do that but it's not BECAUSE Trump won, it's because the party was out of touch even before that election. it wasn't as simple to say that's how he won and how Dems lost.
The reason he will always win tightly contested elections and not with any significant margin is that election or primary Trump is in, is like a pie. Most times, he will lose because the majority of the country hates him. He wins when other people lose pieces of their pie or there are lots of people fighting over the pie. In 2016, he was the favorite from the beginning, but he wasn't blowing other candidates away in the crowded primary. He just benefitted from no coalition forming behind a clear secondary candidate. His slice of the pie was tiny, but every Never Trump Republican's favorites were so divided amongst like 8 people that his piece was the biggest.
When Cruz finally became the last other candidate standing, he started winning a lot more delegates, but by then he had too much ground to make up (I also think he conceded too early).
by getting the nomination, his slice of the pie grew enormously merely by having the R in front of his name, and he only needed to steal a little sliver of the Independent slice, and hope that Ds gave away a little of theirs or were too full to eat it.
He achieved this through a remarkable series of lucky events, not least naive networks thinking he had no chance but giving him free, consistent publicity with the reality-show esque car-crash gawker coverage they gave him. The October surprise re: "grab em by the pussy" was mistimed and released too early, so he had time to bounce back. Comey's October surprise.
but most importantly, no political history. Hillary had a decades long track record, as did almost every other Republican candidate, whereas Trump was a wild card, so it was easier for more conservative Dems and Independents to take the risk because they were dumb and fucking naive. No different than when a minor league pitcher gets called up and initially succeeds because his opponents haven't seen game film on him and don't yet know the book on him.
the minute he took fucking office he started creating game film and people now knew exactly what he'd be like and that made him many more enemies. that began giving away a bunch of the Independent pie, had Dems fighting to take their pieces back.
So things like the impeachment give away more of his piece of the pie, it turns off Independent voters, and a tiny sliver of Republican voters, and he simply can't afford to lose votes from either because his base is too small to get him elected.
2016 was a "what's the worst that could happen?" year, now everybody fucking knows.
― earosmith (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 16 August 2023 17:36 (eight months ago) link
*every election or primary
― earosmith (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 16 August 2023 17:37 (eight months ago) link
An excellent analysis, Neanderthal.
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 16 August 2023 17:40 (eight months ago) link
Yeah booming post, Neanderthal.
Oh and in news that will surprise precisely no one, he never paid Giuliani or most other conspirators.
Maybe don't go to work for someone who is famous for stiffing people?
― Bonobo Vox (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 16 August 2023 17:49 (eight months ago) link
Hillary Benghazi
― Grandall Flange (wins), Wednesday, 16 August 2023 17:50 (eight months ago) link
I've said it before, if he has a talent it is getting other people to immolate themselves for him.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 16 August 2023 17:51 (eight months ago) link
He has the god-tier masochist vote locked up tight. Hurt me, daddy!
― Prop Dramedy (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 16 August 2023 18:03 (eight months ago) link
immolate themselves for free at that! it's amazing that people still fall for it.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 16 August 2023 18:03 (eight months ago) link
It's like the 'stop hitting yourself' gag except they really are hitting themselves
― Prop Dramedy (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 16 August 2023 18:13 (eight months ago) link
I can't believe the leopard ate MY face wtf
― out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Wednesday, 16 August 2023 18:36 (eight months ago) link
lol wins
― earosmith (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 16 August 2023 19:41 (eight months ago) link
sorry but
https://i.imgur.com/6yBA7fR.png
― frogbs, Wednesday, 16 August 2023 19:53 (eight months ago) link
Wait weren’t we supposed to get a very CONCLUSIVE and EXONERATING report from Trump today? Did I miss something?
― tobo73, Wednesday, 16 August 2023 19:59 (eight months ago) link
I think that's Monday
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Wednesday, 16 August 2023 19:59 (eight months ago) link
Somewhere somebody is assembling that report right now, I'm sure it's going great.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 16 August 2023 20:00 (eight months ago) link
one reason the report is good is because it's very long
― z_tbd, Wednesday, 16 August 2023 20:05 (eight months ago) link
Also Monday is the best day for truth
― hardcore technician gimmicks are also another popular choice f (President Keyes), Wednesday, 16 August 2023 20:07 (eight months ago) link
i REALLY like that
― z_tbd, Wednesday, 16 August 2023 20:09 (eight months ago) link
if Monday is the best day for truth, then i saylet the truth begin
As someone who has been following this all pretty casually, I liked this as a comparison of the federal/GA stuff:
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2023/08/trump-indictments-jack-smith-fani-willis-themes.html
― official representative of Roku's Basketshit in at least one alternate u (lukas), Wednesday, 16 August 2023 20:10 (eight months ago) link
i know we already touched on it above or in the other thread, but i really hopes he comes out to announce the report standing to another 5 foot high staged pile of blank pieces of paper
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 16 August 2023 20:11 (eight months ago) link
Somewhere somebody is assembling that
...great health care plan
...kraken
― Bonobo Vox (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 16 August 2023 20:13 (eight months ago) link
Are there any betting pools set up for people to wager on what he will actually say/do on Monday?
― henry s, Wednesday, 16 August 2023 20:15 (eight months ago) link
i bet $15 he will say something that will later be used as evidence in one of the four different cases
― i wanna post cool stuff, slick stuff, neat stuff (z_tbd), Wednesday, 16 August 2023 20:18 (eight months ago) link
uhhhh you'd have to give me massive odds on that
― frogbs, Wednesday, 16 August 2023 20:19 (eight months ago) link
see, that's the part about betting that i hate
― i wanna post cool stuff, slick stuff, neat stuff (z_tbd), Wednesday, 16 August 2023 20:22 (eight months ago) link
he's gonna say something really dumb.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 16 August 2023 20:25 (eight months ago) link
https://y.yarn.co/a0a16a2b-c302-4101-9fd9-a77efaf2487e_text.gif
― The Yellow Kid, Wednesday, 16 August 2023 20:27 (eight months ago) link
I am just curious about what excuse he uses for not making his exonerating report public.
― henry s, Wednesday, 16 August 2023 20:32 (eight months ago) link
Ran out of printer ink.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 16 August 2023 20:35 (eight months ago) link
The national Quinnipiac University poll showed 54 percent of Americans said Trump should be face federal criminal charges, while 42 percent said he should not be prosecuted for those alleged crimes.
Independent voters, notably, said they support prosecuting Trump for the alleged federal crimes in question by a margin of 20 points: 57 percent said they support and 37 percent said they do not.
this last bit is pretty notable, since it was Independents that really delivered him in 2016
― Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 16 August 2023 20:35 (eight months ago) link
That’s not you win an election
― tobo73, Wednesday, 16 August 2023 20:36 (eight months ago) link
they don't make elections anymore like with Ronald Reagan in them
― hardcore technician gimmicks are also another popular choice f (President Keyes), Wednesday, 16 August 2023 20:53 (eight months ago) link
when you got elections like ronald reagan in them, you can't lose
― Chevy Chase drumming mystery (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 16 August 2023 21:26 (eight months ago) link
frogbs at 11:53 16 Aug 23when that call came out with the Georgia Secretary of State I remember a number of Twitter legal guys going "this is really bad, you don't wanna do this anywhere but especially not in Georgia" for reasons I can't really recall right now
― jaymc, Wednesday, 16 August 2023 22:42 (eight months ago) link
BREAKING: Former Pres. Trump's promised press conference to refute the allegations in the indictment handed up by the Fulton County DA's Office is now very much in doubt, multiple sources familiar with the matter tell @ABC News. https://t.co/IlLLZYrqht— ABC News (@ABC) August 17, 2023
Anyway, these assholes are always so full of shit. I keep seeing clips of Republican dickweeds saying shit like "we have 10x the evidence of Biden's corruption than they have of even made-up Trump evidence," or "we are this close to getting rid of the Deep State" or exonerating Trump or whatever bullshit. But they never produce the evidence. Because of course there is none, or it's the same invented, refuted bullshit presented in a different order.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 17 August 2023 14:30 (eight months ago) link
not enough monkeys to work the typewriters
― hardcore technician gimmicks are also another popular choice f (President Keyes), Thursday, 17 August 2023 14:32 (eight months ago) link
how dare they take this from us?
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Thursday, 17 August 2023 14:39 (eight months ago) link
It's another version of Q, in a way — the promised revelation, always just out of reach.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 17 August 2023 14:44 (eight months ago) link
the conspiracy theory fantasy sphere is wild stuff, kaleidoscopic amusement
― lag∞n, Thursday, 17 August 2023 14:47 (eight months ago) link
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 17 August 2023 14:30 (twenty-one minutes ago) link
Using the successful formula of social media clickbait (big juicy dramatic headlines based on something flimsy or misconstrued) to keep supporters hooked and confuse general consensus through the magic of relentless "well I thought I heard" surface level perception manipulation.
― But his face would not turn into hot Kirby (Evan), Thursday, 17 August 2023 15:22 (eight months ago) link
It's effective too, at least with sympathetic audiences. A whole lot of people who only get information from right-wing media now firmly believe that there is strong irrefutable proof of the Biden Crime Family's misdeeds, and that the lack of prosecution for it is entirely a function of the Deep State.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 17 August 2023 15:26 (eight months ago) link
If you ask them what the evidence is, they'll just say things like, "It's everywhere! You can look it up!" And if you knock down any given talking point, they just cycle to another.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 17 August 2023 15:28 (eight months ago) link
After all this time, all they really have is an email that mentions "the big guy."
― hardcore technician gimmicks are also another popular choice f (President Keyes), Thursday, 17 August 2023 15:31 (eight months ago) link
if someone told me they were gonna take down the biden crime family id just be like ok thats fine
― lag∞n, Thursday, 17 August 2023 15:43 (eight months ago) link
Yeah, that's what the GOP doesn't seem to understand about the left--we don't have a cult-like attachment to people like Joe Biden, Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer, etc.
― hardcore technician gimmicks are also another popular choice f (President Keyes), Thursday, 17 August 2023 15:46 (eight months ago) link
xpost Yeah, it's like, just show me the (dirty) money.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 17 August 2023 15:47 (eight months ago) link
we don't have a cult-like attachment to people like Joe Biden, Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer, etc.
No, it's more like they have a remora-like attachment to us.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 17 August 2023 15:57 (eight months ago) link
remember in his first year he made this big show of doing the "fake news awards" and it just turned out to be some badly formatted HTML page
i'd bet anything this is the same deal, Trump just said it and expected his folks to make it happen, except now all his folks are probably indicted too so they can't
― frogbs, Thursday, 17 August 2023 16:01 (eight months ago) link
"We've incriminated ourselves enough!"
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 17 August 2023 16:07 (eight months ago) link
xp lol i love this explanation the most
― juan epshteyn-- r.i.c.o., but suave tambien (Hunt3r), Thursday, 17 August 2023 16:08 (eight months ago) link
“when we finally got indictments to defend, we could not because well… here we all are.”
― juan epshteyn-- r.i.c.o., but suave tambien (Hunt3r), Thursday, 17 August 2023 16:11 (eight months ago) link
This has always been his MO, from the USFL to his NFT "trading cards."
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 17 August 2023 16:17 (eight months ago) link
does Colton Moore saying he's gonna impeach Fani Willis amount to anything or nah
― J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Thursday, 17 August 2023 17:27 (eight months ago) link
as much as me saying "I declare Bankruptcy"
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 17 August 2023 17:38 (eight months ago) link
He wrote "We, the undersigned" and then signed it alone.
BTW, the Georgia legislature is not in session, and will not be until January.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 17 August 2023 17:40 (eight months ago) link
i think a more fair $15 bet is whether or not trump will say "no, YOU'RE out of order" to a judge at some point
― i wanna post cool stuff, slick stuff, neat stuff (z_tbd), Thursday, 17 August 2023 17:57 (eight months ago) link
expectations are the enemy of satisfaction TM
― juan epshteyn-- r.i.c.o., but suave tambien (Hunt3r), Thursday, 17 August 2023 18:03 (eight months ago) link
Everything I've read is that he's not particularly bold in the courtroom - 'crumpled and dispirited' is more like it
he's only likes the courts when he's suing someone
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 17 August 2023 18:05 (eight months ago) link
In the call, Ms Shry allegedly told the judge, who is overseeing an election conspiracy case against Mr Trump: "You are in our sights, we want to kill you."
Prosecutors say Ms Shry added: "If Trump doesn't get elected in 2024, we are coming to kill you."
This woman is probably just a harmless crazy, but this last line probably rings true for many Trump stans - he'd BETTER win or else, democracy be damned
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 17 August 2023 18:07 (eight months ago) link
The specimen is mostly deflated but somehow even gassier than usual.
― But his face would not turn into hot Kirby (Evan), Thursday, 17 August 2023 18:09 (eight months ago) link
I dunno these choads can’t stop getting convicted for threatening judges and congressmen by phone there may not be anyone left to carry out the killing in 2024.
― Chevy Chase drumming mystery (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 17 August 2023 18:30 (eight months ago) link
You’d think, but our system is great at churning out choads to replenish the ranks
― Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Thursday, 17 August 2023 18:39 (eight months ago) link
I mean these folks have been shown plenty of times within the last 7 years that they're more than willing to act out their violent fantasies so good luck USA
― frogbs, Thursday, 17 August 2023 19:11 (eight months ago) link
the promised revelation, always just out of reach.― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra)
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra)
The Crying of Don, 77
― the pinefox, Thursday, 17 August 2023 19:16 (eight months ago) link
Not gonna recommend watching 40 minutes of Morning Joe, but polls are not looking good for our boy...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LnMfqXbaMrk
― read-only (unperson), Thursday, 17 August 2023 19:21 (eight months ago) link
fake polls
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 17 August 2023 19:31 (eight months ago) link
honestly no clue how this is gonna shake out, my cynical side says Republican voters are gonna rally around him anyway cuz that's what they always do but the amount of mental gymnastics these people are gonna have to do in 2024 is outright insane. not really sure how you come back from 95 felony charges
― frogbs, Thursday, 17 August 2023 19:53 (eight months ago) link
like idk maybe he gets a friendly judge and a couple of closet Trumpers on the jury that somehow allows him to skate and he can play the "witch hunt" card again like he did after Russia and both impeachments but its not like that really helped the GOP electorally either
― frogbs, Thursday, 17 August 2023 19:56 (eight months ago) link
they simply don't do mental gymnastics, that's how. the charges are "fake" from the "deep state", so there is no disconnect to wrestle with.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 17 August 2023 19:57 (eight months ago) link
Independent voters are what matter, and at this moment he's bleeding them.
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 17 August 2023 20:00 (eight months ago) link
that probably describes like 80% of the Republican party but there are a lot of center-right folks and moderates who don't think that way. he won independents 2:1 in 2016 and that's why he became President. he managed to turn off most of them in 2020 and I don't think getting arrested every month is gonna bring em back
― frogbs, Thursday, 17 August 2023 20:01 (eight months ago) link
and sure enthusiasm for Biden is low but enthusiasm for keeping Trump out of office is really high and that's why Biden got the most votes in American history. the "he's literally gonna try to end democracy" pitch came off hyperbolic in 2020 but I'm guessing it'll play way better now
― frogbs, Thursday, 17 August 2023 20:06 (eight months ago) link
the polls are mostly national right now and they have way too high an undecided % in them to be anything but noisey. the latest Fox News one, which still had Biden ahead, had like 15% undecided in it.
Independents in the poll don't really like either candidate, but you can be sure these indictments, as they progress further, are going to peel off a little bit of that number. Republicans showed less support for Trump than Dems for Biden (something I never thought I'd see). I would also wager there's a sliver of people in D/Ind camp who are non-decisive in the poll because they don't think Biden will be the nominee, which he didn't have to contend with during similar polls in 2019 as he was just one of many candidates in the D poll at that point of time, whereas he's the actual President now with a secondary candidate polling in the low double digits. not realistic, but undecided voters are usually stupid.
― earosmith (Neanderthal), Thursday, 17 August 2023 20:06 (eight months ago) link
I feel like Biden might paradoxically have tougher sledding this time around despite being an incumbent, but at the same token, the idea that indictment proceedings are going to have no material effect on Independent voters (or even a tiny bit of movement on R voters) is kind of absurd.
tune back in one year from now basically
― earosmith (Neanderthal), Thursday, 17 August 2023 20:08 (eight months ago) link
midterms did a lot to quash those fears for me, inflation got really high and really was affecting a lot of shit, and naturally it seemed people were gonna blame Dems for it cuz that's what always happens. but it didn't really shake out that way.
― frogbs, Thursday, 17 August 2023 20:13 (eight months ago) link
Anyone who is still undecided at this point should be stripped of their right to vote IM(undemocratic)O. Regardless of how low-info a voter you are, how do you not have at least enough of an opinion about Donald Trump to have an idea of the general direction you're gonna go?
Welll, I dunno, maybe if he exceeds 100 indictments, I'll consider making a decision. Until then I'm just not sure. It's a toughie!
― Prop Dramedy (Old Lunch), Thursday, 17 August 2023 20:23 (eight months ago) link
kenbone.jpg
― out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Thursday, 17 August 2023 20:24 (eight months ago) link
The Dobbs Decision continues to have a massive influence
Trump's in a bind there - wanting to take credit for his SCOTUS appointments, but knowing that shit doesn't fly with the suburban moms
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 17 August 2023 20:26 (eight months ago) link
fwiw, I wasn't talking about "undecideds", I was just responding to frogbs' comment about Republican voters doing mental gymnastics to keep voting for him. there's also those GOP voters who will vote Trump simply because, "suck it, woke libs" is their only thought process entering the voting booth.
also fwiw, I'm not arguing that there are enough of these voters to put him back in office, rather just addressing the "how can people keep voting for this guy" line.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 17 August 2023 20:27 (eight months ago) link
kenbone kenbone ken whiny bone
― earosmith (Neanderthal), Thursday, 17 August 2023 20:32 (eight months ago) link
lol don't worry jon I started writing my response long before you posted, by the time I submitted it was xpost city.
― earosmith (Neanderthal), Thursday, 17 August 2023 20:33 (eight months ago) link
my cynical side says Republican voters are gonna rally around him anyway
He has gone up in the polls, so you are probably right. On the other hand, if--and this is a huge if--he gets convicted before November of next year, a lot of voters may opt out.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 17 August 2023 20:47 (eight months ago) link
KEN TO THE BONE! DUH DUH DUH DUH fug
― The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 17 August 2023 20:49 (eight months ago) link
he's gone up in the polls vs other Republicans but down otherwise IIRC
― official representative of Roku's Basketshit in at least one alternate u (lukas), Thursday, 17 August 2023 21:08 (eight months ago) link
^^
― out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Thursday, 17 August 2023 21:54 (eight months ago) link
That was my first time watching Morning Joe.. ^^^^ wasn't as bad as I thought
One point they keep hammering home is how weak the other GOP candidates look when they won't confront Trump (Hutchinson & Christie aside)... they just keep trying to bring in some shit about Hunter's 7 million but never talk about Jared's 3 BILLION, most of which was foreign money
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 17 August 2023 22:22 (eight months ago) link
The intelligent demon bastards like McConnell must be beside themselves that they are going to wind up with Trump again.
There is absolutely nothing Trump could do that would make his cult vote against him.
― Cow_Art, Thursday, 17 August 2023 22:44 (eight months ago) link
Usually at this point in the election cycle my CW is that "a lot can happen in the next 14½ months, so nothing is close to decided, yet." This time I'd have to say that the Republican nominee will be Trump again or the party becomes a de facto headless chicken.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 17 August 2023 23:36 (eight months ago) link
if he died and they put someone else on the ballot, we would hear about him having more write-ins than the official candidate, but never see the evidence.
― BrianB, Thursday, 17 August 2023 23:45 (eight months ago) link
Donald Trump, RIP, Republican candidate for president.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 17 August 2023 23:55 (eight months ago) link
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/08/17/22/74451253-12418749-image-m-32_1692309119368.jpg
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 18 August 2023 01:10 (eight months ago) link
doin good no a care in the world
Trump just posted this to Truth Social, and it’s alarming. He makes no sense at all. His words are garbled and slurred, his hair is mussed. He’s swaying, blinking excessively, and sweating. It’s actually frightening. Does he need medical help? pic.twitter.com/bVG6fs3k8D— Mike Sington (@MikeSington) August 17, 2023
― lag∞n, Friday, 18 August 2023 02:41 (eight months ago) link
He's off his meds again.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 18 August 2023 02:47 (eight months ago) link
that tweet got my hopes up. he made it sound like he was having a mental breakdown, but Mike Sington was just fantasizing. it was just standard Trump stuff. he just tried to cram in as many of his 'clever nicknames' as possible and it was like a traffic jam between his brain and his tongue. other than that, business as usual.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 18 August 2023 03:15 (eight months ago) link
a shitty performance gets my shitty weak review i guesshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hV85E2S-Idw
― juan epshteyn-- r.i.c.o., but suave tambien (Hunt3r), Friday, 18 August 2023 03:22 (eight months ago) link
Jon
there's also those GOP voters who will vote Trump simply because, "suck it, woke libs" is their only thought process entering the voting booth
― Capybara Gibb (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 18 August 2023 03:23 (eight months ago) link
Yeah sounded like normal trump rhetoric and delivery. Here we go again with the “Trumps losing his mind” pictures and vids everyone oversells for attention and engagement just like any other clickbait. Not like I wouldn’t love to witness his mashed potato brain oozing out of his ears...
― But his face would not turn into hot Kirby (Evan), Friday, 18 August 2023 03:24 (eight months ago) link
xp He did seem a little more unhinged than usual. It was sort of reminiscent of the press conference he held, I think it was the Thursday after the election, where he just stood at the podium and rattled off all of this conspiracy nonsense. I really thought he had lost his mind then.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 18 August 2023 03:24 (eight months ago) link
Yep, full on Scanners head explosion or nothing.
― Large, Complex, Detailed but Irrefutable POST (Dan Peterson), Friday, 18 August 2023 03:25 (eight months ago) link
You can see the legal edit right there. pic.twitter.com/4GebWGa24J— Ryan J. Reilly (@ryanjreilly) August 18, 2023
― read-only (unperson), Friday, 18 August 2023 03:40 (eight months ago) link
A record breaking Murder & Violent Crime area! I feel special!
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 18 August 2023 03:48 (eight months ago) link
I don’t have enough “u”s in fuuuuuuk no for this.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-lawyers-seeks-delay-federal-election-trial-2026-rcna100062
― Large, Complex, Detailed but Irrefutable POST (Dan Peterson), Friday, 18 August 2023 14:57 (eight months ago) link
i just remembered that rex tillerson was secretary of state
― i wanna post cool stuff, slick stuff, neat stuff (z_tbd), Friday, 18 August 2023 15:23 (eight months ago) link
I doubt he remembers it
― hardcore technician gimmicks are also another popular choice f (President Keyes), Friday, 18 August 2023 15:25 (eight months ago) link
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/18/us/politics/trump-debate-tucker-carlson.html
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 18 August 2023 17:19 (eight months ago) link
snicker: "The exact timing and platform of the interview with Mr. Carlson remain unclear..."
― Chevy Chase drumming mystery (Boring, Maryland), Friday, 18 August 2023 19:12 (eight months ago) link
Desperate attempt to get back on Twitter...
― read-only (unperson), Friday, 18 August 2023 19:12 (eight months ago) link
I for one am waiting for him to go full WWE somehow in a surprise reveal at the actual debate: "Wait, whose theme music is that, LOOK WHO'S WALKING UP TO A PODIUM!"
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 18 August 2023 19:17 (eight months ago) link
With Tucker as his hype man by his side, stealing the mic from the moderator to introduce him and egg on the crowd.
― BrianB, Friday, 18 August 2023 19:24 (eight months ago) link
iirc trump has an open invite to come back to Twitter and has been restricted by contract provisions with truth social which are expiring soon or are about to expire or something. I’m sure he’ll come back to Twitter like he came back from Covid and ripped his mask off
― i really like that!! (z_tbd), Friday, 18 August 2023 19:43 (eight months ago) link
"BAH GAWD that's Trump's music!"
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 18 August 2023 19:44 (eight months ago) link
he's unbanned, I'm sure he can just log in and post if he wants. idk if "contract provisions" really matter to Trump I mean this guy breaks the law constantly I think it's more likely he just doesn't want to, maybe just because he dislikes Elon, more likely because he's not crazy about the optics of returning to a platform you got very famously banned from
― frogbs, Friday, 18 August 2023 19:48 (eight months ago) link
I'm sure he's itching to get back just in time for X to implode, his 'troofs' get like 900 likes these days
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 18 August 2023 19:50 (eight months ago) link
xpbut unless i'm misunderstanding, he's about to drive a bunch of his horde traffic to twitter by appearing on fucker's show
― i really like that!! (z_tbd), Friday, 18 August 2023 19:51 (eight months ago) link
all 900 of them
― out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Friday, 18 August 2023 19:52 (eight months ago) link
Truth posts get reported on and shared widely on Twitter and his big business bollock of a brain doesn't want to disrupt that free product publicity.
― nashwan, Friday, 18 August 2023 20:04 (eight months ago) link
tucker's X 'show' is doing horribly, so this is mutually beneficial for both these slugs
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 18 August 2023 20:17 (eight months ago) link
Anytime they are in the same place at the same time, there is a chance they can be taken out by the same natural disaster.
― epistantophus, Friday, 18 August 2023 22:00 (eight months ago) link
In case you were wondering: Ivermectin still not effective or approved for COVID-19 treatment, FDA says
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 18 August 2023 22:08 (eight months ago) link
FAKE NEWS, I take a daily supplement, I hear they have gummies now
― epistantophus, Friday, 18 August 2023 23:13 (eight months ago) link
Our state passed a law that says pharmacies have to give it to you even if you don’t have a prescription. I wonder if anybody is still getting it.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Friday, 18 August 2023 23:19 (eight months ago) link
That sounds like responsible government.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 18 August 2023 23:26 (eight months ago) link
ask the state gov't when they will do that for opiates
― earosmith (Neanderthal), Friday, 18 August 2023 23:44 (eight months ago) link
Well I guess this guy won’t be the Veep pick
“That part about looking out for minors on an island, was literally about Donald Trump,” the ‘Rich Men North Of Richmond’ star Oliver Anthony told @RollingStone“The obese welfare fudge rounds part too,” Anthony continued. “We’re tired of supporting these rich bums.” pic.twitter.com/U5QjOLObcm— JustinTBrown (@JuuustinBrown) August 18, 2023
― hardcore technician gimmicks are also another popular choice f (President Keyes), Saturday, 19 August 2023 01:27 (eight months ago) link
they're just doing what he wants
ATLANTA — The FBI has joined an investigation into a barrage of threats against Fulton County officials in recent days, including members of the Atlanta-area grand jury that voted to indict former president Donald Trump and 18 of his allies in a sweeping criminal case focused on alleged 2020 election interference....The statement came amid growing concern about the safety of grand jurors involved in Monday’s indictment after the names, home addresses, photos and social media profiles of some members of the panel circulated online along with threatening messages targeting them and Fulton County District Attorney Fani T. Willis (D), whose office is prosecuting the case.Under Georgia law, names of grand jurors are publicly listed on indictments — an effort at transparency that some have questioned in light of ongoing threats in the aftermath of the charges against Trump and 18 others accused of conspiring to overturn Georgia’s 2020 presidential election results.
...The statement came amid growing concern about the safety of grand jurors involved in Monday’s indictment after the names, home addresses, photos and social media profiles of some members of the panel circulated online along with threatening messages targeting them and Fulton County District Attorney Fani T. Willis (D), whose office is prosecuting the case.
Under Georgia law, names of grand jurors are publicly listed on indictments — an effort at transparency that some have questioned in light of ongoing threats in the aftermath of the charges against Trump and 18 others accused of conspiring to overturn Georgia’s 2020 presidential election results.
― i really like that!! (z_tbd), Saturday, 19 August 2023 14:16 (eight months ago) link
i saw the fbi went to talk to a lady that made a online threat against a grand juror and she was all i was just talking i had no plans to go to atlanta which is what one should say under those circumstances but then she said however if they came to my town theyd have a problem which is what you shouldnt say
― lag∞n, Saturday, 19 August 2023 14:35 (eight months ago) link
but if she gets asked about that latter threat during a court case she can just say she was just talking again, this time to the fbi, she had no plans to do anything to the grand juror if she came to her town and there wouldn't be a problem.
however if the fbi and the grand juror were to come to the court case they'd have a problem though
― i really like that!! (z_tbd), Saturday, 19 August 2023 14:43 (eight months ago) link
― lag∞n, Saturday, 19 August 2023 14:46 (eight months ago) link
an FBI agent and a grand juror walk into a bar and
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 19 August 2023 14:49 (eight months ago) link
i think good patriotic folks like that lady should feel free to tell the fbi every little thought that crosses their minds, at length, in detail
― pretty god (cat), Saturday, 19 August 2023 14:53 (eight months ago) link
Try to threaten a grand juror in a small town
― citation needed (Steve Shasta), Saturday, 19 August 2023 15:26 (eight months ago) link
is that from a Miranda Lambert song
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 19 August 2023 15:29 (eight months ago) link
The Rural Juror
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 19 August 2023 15:42 (eight months ago) link
"I wasn't saying I was going to kill the juror, by "nobody will ever see or hear from him again" I meant the town will shun him forever.
With bullets"
― earosmith (Neanderthal), Saturday, 19 August 2023 15:42 (eight months ago) link
"share a gold domed suite with Vladimir, never to be seen or heard from again"
Complaining about the bail he will have to post in Atlanta, Trump is now joking about fleeing to Russia to “share a gold domed suite with Vladimir” Putin, “never to be seen or heard from again.” pic.twitter.com/3K1D0YCoVI— Natalie Allison (@natalie_allison) August 22, 2023
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 22 August 2023 04:26 (seven months ago) link
you're welcome to be domed buddy
― earosmith (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 22 August 2023 04:27 (seven months ago) link
genuinely bizarre some of the shit that plays well with the GOP base
― frogbs, Tuesday, 22 August 2023 04:31 (seven months ago) link
Any shit that comes out of his mouth plays well with the GOP base. He is Biff Tannen and they are all his pathetic sidekicks.
― serving aunt (stevie), Tuesday, 22 August 2023 07:50 (seven months ago) link
Last two sentences are sheer poetry tho.
― nashwan, Tuesday, 22 August 2023 09:00 (seven months ago) link
If his airplane crashed and he was the only casualty, THAT would be poetry.
― serving aunt (stevie), Tuesday, 22 August 2023 09:22 (seven months ago) link
Isn't this one of Trump's strangest ever statements?
― the pinefox, Tuesday, 22 August 2023 09:32 (seven months ago) link
Last two sentences are sheer poetry tho
Yeah, this is (I surmise) the Trump (ghostwriter) that people glommed onto in the first place
― fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Tuesday, 22 August 2023 12:46 (seven months ago) link
imo the tweets that he writes are better as tweets but yeah this one is a lil more expansive, which is not the trump brand!
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 22 August 2023 12:52 (seven months ago) link
"I'd be much better off flying commercial, I'm sure nobody would recognize me" sounds like a rueful line from, like, a Warren Zevon song or something.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 22 August 2023 12:59 (seven months ago) link
he's being sarcastic
― c u (crüt), Tuesday, 22 August 2023 14:05 (seven months ago) link
Thank you crüt, that was extremely helpful
― deep wubs and tribral rhythms (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 22 August 2023 14:07 (seven months ago) link
Are you being sarcastic?
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 22 August 2023 14:14 (seven months ago) link
absolutely not
― deep wubs and tribral rhythms (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 22 August 2023 14:55 (seven months ago) link
Sarcasm. Wow. My favorite.
― Capybara Gibb (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 22 August 2023 14:59 (seven months ago) link
Poll it.
― Monthly Python (Tom D.), Tuesday, 22 August 2023 15:06 (seven months ago) link
Casms, Smokey Robinson's upcoming outtakes EP.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 22 August 2023 15:07 (seven months ago) link
🤣
― The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 22 August 2023 15:21 (seven months ago) link
Sarcastic eyeroll emoji
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 22 August 2023 15:26 (seven months ago) link
I would definitely put sarcasm at number one, no question.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 22 August 2023 15:27 (seven months ago) link
Gold, gold, gold. The man's obsessed with the color gold, especially when he thinks of Russia.
― felicity, Tuesday, 22 August 2023 15:36 (seven months ago) link
pee tape
― rob, Tuesday, 22 August 2023 15:37 (seven months ago) link
I bet he has a bar stocked with Goldschläger.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 22 August 2023 15:38 (seven months ago) link
certainly out of character for him to obsess about gold furnishings, mentally fabricate a cozy personal relationship with murderous despots like Vladimir Putin, or make passive-aggressively needy statements about his popularity. something must be up. perhaps he's becoming increasingly isolated?
― vashti funyuns (sic), Tuesday, 22 August 2023 16:06 (seven months ago) link
All he missed out on was replacing "me" for "your favorite president."
― Large, Complex, Detailed but Irrefutable POST (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 22 August 2023 16:35 (seven months ago) link
xp are you being sarcastsic?
― nashwan, Tuesday, 22 August 2023 16:36 (seven months ago) link
*bangs on the side of ilx*
Yup, looks like the sarcasm detector is a little out of whack, might need a reboot.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 22 August 2023 16:42 (seven months ago) link
it's like he got script doctored
― aeronimo is mad againe (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 22 August 2023 16:45 (seven months ago) link
Didn’t Grover used to refer to himself as “me, your favorite monster” in the old Sesame Street books? That’s all I think of when Trump does that.
― epistantophus, Tuesday, 22 August 2023 17:04 (seven months ago) link
I'm being stochastically terrible.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 22 August 2023 17:09 (seven months ago) link
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR_c1A0bjunG0AbDub-dypDuB93Q8YgZiCDuU3uh9VneEXx6Q96UMLHhG5tYXSWo2wljuQ&usqp=CAU
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 22 August 2023 17:23 (seven months ago) link
https://x.com/msnbc/status/1694075005577961959?s=46
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Tuesday, 22 August 2023 19:59 (seven months ago) link
Yours in service,
Fuck You
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 22 August 2023 20:03 (seven months ago) link
Good Morning and get a brain Moran.
― Large, Complex, Detailed but Irrefutable POST (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 22 August 2023 20:09 (seven months ago) link
Yours in Christ,
Go to hell.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 22 August 2023 20:54 (seven months ago) link
BREAKING:A key witness against Trump and his two co-defendants in the classified documents case recanted previous false testimony and provided new information implicating Trump and the other defendants after he switched lawyers. https://t.co/95xPxCWkid— Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) August 22, 2023
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 23 August 2023 03:15 (seven months ago) link
They call him Flipper, Flipper, faster than lightning...
― The Terroir of Tiny Town (WmC), Wednesday, 23 August 2023 03:29 (seven months ago) link
flipper's delight
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 23 August 2023 05:43 (seven months ago) link
Just released: Guliani pic.twitter.com/huomOgkxdE— Xavier (@XavierResists) August 23, 2023
― groovypanda, Wednesday, 23 August 2023 21:12 (seven months ago) link
hot
― hardcore technician gimmicks are also another popular choice f (President Keyes), Wednesday, 23 August 2023 21:17 (seven months ago) link
Know what else is hot?
Jenna Ellis booking photo: pic.twitter.com/85vg79RZXK— philip lewis (@Phil_Lewis_) August 23, 2023
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 23 August 2023 21:20 (seven months ago) link
Preview of the Tucker diversionary interview
'Are you worried that they are going to try to kill you?' is just one of the explosive questions that Tucker Carlson asks him, in an interview on Trump's home turf at his Bedminster, New Jersey country club.
'Do you think we’re moving toward Civil War?' was another, along with, 'Whatever happened to Mike Pence?'
'They’re savage animals they are people that are sick,' Trump says of his enemies in the clip.
'There’s a level of hatred that I've never seen,' he adds.
― Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 23 August 2023 23:23 (seven months ago) link
i hope that people watch the debate instead of the interview and that trump gets pissy about it
― c u (crüt), Wednesday, 23 August 2023 23:28 (seven months ago) link
I think it's just on Twitter or something, right? thinking most of his demographic can't be bothered to navigate that, too 'big tech'
― Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 23 August 2023 23:30 (seven months ago) link
n his analysis of Nazi propaganda, Ellis Freeman identified an influence tactic based on projection: accusing another person of the negative traits and behaviors that one possesses and exhibits with the goal of deflecting blame away from one’s own misdeeds and toward the accused. Although the use of projection as an influence tactic is not limited to fascist regimes and its consequences can be socially devastating, the projection tactic has not been subjected to experimental analysis. In four experiments, the authors found that projection was effective in (a) increasing the blame placed on the target of the projection and (b) decreasing the culpability of the accuser (or projectionist). These effects occurred despite (a) raising suspicions about the motives of the projectionist, (b) providing evidence that the projectionist is guilty of the deed, and (c) timing the projection so that it occurred after the misdeeds came to light.
― out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Thursday, 24 August 2023 00:00 (seven months ago) link
The projection wouldn’t be so effective it it didn’t get breathlessly reported on as the latest development. It becomes a headline/sound byte and that’s all people pay attention to anymore.
― epistantophus, Thursday, 24 August 2023 01:18 (seven months ago) link
it’s DARVO all the way down
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Thursday, 24 August 2023 01:50 (seven months ago) link
Maybe Jenna Ellis just wanted a free taco
https://scontent-ord5-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/361093009_606225468164577_2583085448497567290_n.jpg?_nc_cat=101&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=8NY_v7S8fvwAX8pnIh9&_nc_ht=scontent-ord5-1.xx&oh=00_AfAU1HSB3KQ2zexgVHv-QqIUkgDb14jM1Y_VQtLn8LZudg&oe=64EC022A
― jaymc, Thursday, 24 August 2023 01:56 (seven months ago) link
Is that a picture of tacos on the left or one of those images that tries to trick your brain into seeing things that aren't there
― But his face would not turn into hot Kirby (Evan), Thursday, 24 August 2023 02:04 (seven months ago) link
I see Aughra from the Dark Crystal
― epistantophus, Thursday, 24 August 2023 04:28 (seven months ago) link
Rudy Giuliani spotted walking into A 2nd Chance Bail Bonds in Atlanta(@ATLNewsFirst helicopter & @cnn drone) pic.twitter.com/PATS6PRz40— Brendan Keefe - Atlanta News First (@BrendanKeefe) August 23, 2023
― honey badger drinks when he wants (stevie), Thursday, 24 August 2023 09:06 (seven months ago) link
guys like him are supposed to be siting on corporate boards, getting rich, playing golf, its sad
― lag∞n, Thursday, 24 August 2023 13:55 (seven months ago) link
The way Donald Trump says 2 🤣🤣🤣 pic.twitter.com/aJfBjyRWw9— NBA Slime (@TerryFranconia) August 24, 2023
― lag∞n, Thursday, 24 August 2023 14:40 (seven months ago) link
idk why he didnt do the debate thats where it all happened for him in the first place, gotta get back out there, say some mean shit to chris christie
― lag∞n, Thursday, 24 August 2023 14:41 (seven months ago) link
We lost 35,000 people to the mosquito pic.twitter.com/M6fxLxl06P— Marie Bardi (@mariebardi) August 24, 2023
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 24 August 2023 14:59 (seven months ago) link
― lag∞n, Thursday, 24 August 2023 15:03 (seven months ago) link
whos he gonna tell on
Hours before his expected surrender, Trump has hired the attorney who represented rapper Gunna in the YSL RICO case https://t.co/OaeQVnYgXR— philip lewis (@Phil_Lewis_) August 24, 2023
― lag∞n, Thursday, 24 August 2023 15:08 (seven months ago) link
"Tucker On X"
― nashwan, Thursday, 24 August 2023 15:21 (seven months ago) link
They're not sending their best mosquitoes
― Pontius Pilates (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 24 August 2023 16:45 (seven months ago) link
irl lol
― Large, Complex, Detailed but Irrefutable POST (Dan Peterson), Thursday, 24 August 2023 18:03 (seven months ago) link
there are all these Trumpers in that mosquito tweet rushing in to share the history of teh Panama Canal and missing the point that he's being clowned for the ineloquent way he put in (or puts everything, for that matter)
― I can't turn a fart into a question (Neanderthal), Thursday, 24 August 2023 18:22 (seven months ago) link
Trump (and others on Twitter/X) are claiming the Tucker interview has gotten more than 230 million views so far, which is both a) likely not true, and b) evidence it's being served against users' will in their timelines, and that Elon's counting 1-second views as views
― fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Thursday, 24 August 2023 18:56 (seven months ago) link
I love that his new lawyer is also Young Thug's lawyer
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 24 August 2023 21:03 (seven months ago) link
How "normalized" has this spectacle become? I was in and out all day, just got home, realized I had forgotten Trump was supposed to turn himself in today. "Geez, I should turn on CNN, see what's going on."
― clemenza, Thursday, 24 August 2023 21:04 (seven months ago) link
Too normalized.
― The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 24 August 2023 21:08 (seven months ago) link
CNN has someone who used to work for him on. "He's happy that no one's talking about the debate today."
― clemenza, Thursday, 24 August 2023 21:24 (seven months ago) link
so he's almost 100% sure to violate the court-mandated social media restrictions, he can't help himself.. what happens when he does?
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 24 August 2023 21:36 (seven months ago) link
Becoming increasingly indictsolated
― hardcore technician gimmicks are also another popular choice f (President Keyes), Thursday, 24 August 2023 21:46 (seven months ago) link
I think you'll find it was overwhelmingly labourers from the Caribbean who were "lost to the mosquito".
― Monthly Python (Tom D.), Thursday, 24 August 2023 22:02 (seven months ago) link
His $200,000 bail bond is being put up (or 90% of it--he's magnanimously covering 10% himself) by a local bail-bond company. This stuff writes itself.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7oxZhuEwUA
― clemenza, Thursday, 24 August 2023 22:10 (seven months ago) link
Anytime i would hear him talk he always gave off dumb guy trying to sound smart and insightful.
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 24 August 2023 22:16 (seven months ago) link
Damn wrong thread but it applies
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 24 August 2023 22:17 (seven months ago) link
His lawyer can now boast that he has represented both Young Thug and Old Thug.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 24 August 2023 22:28 (seven months ago) link
its gunnas lawyer not young thugs
― lag∞n, Thursday, 24 August 2023 22:36 (seven months ago) link
same case tho
― lag∞n, Thursday, 24 August 2023 22:37 (seven months ago) link
Man, why you gotta do that
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 24 August 2023 22:37 (seven months ago) link
i cant allow young thug, a great artist, to just be thrown willy nilly into jokes with donald trump
― lag∞n, Thursday, 24 August 2023 22:41 (seven months ago) link
His lawyer has now represented Young Slime Life and Old Slime Life.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 24 August 2023 22:46 (seven months ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/wcViysB.png
― c u (crüt), Thursday, 24 August 2023 23:03 (seven months ago) link
JUST IN: Donald Trump has been processed in the Fulton County jailAccording to this he’s 6’3 215 lb… while Meadows is 6’1” 240lb 🤔 pic.twitter.com/Z9DHbvIej1— Kyle Cheney (@kyledcheney) August 24, 2023
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 24 August 2023 23:47 (seven months ago) link
https://www.meidastouch.com/.image/t_share/MjAwMzExOTQ3ODUyMjYwNDYw/meadows-mug-.jpg
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 24 August 2023 23:47 (seven months ago) link
215? Total bullshit
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 24 August 2023 23:52 (seven months ago) link
normal day in american history
https://i.imgur.com/niAygRX.png
― i really like that!! (z_tbd), Thursday, 24 August 2023 23:54 (seven months ago) link
Cable networks are doing the OJ thing of following Trump's motorcade and I wanna die.
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 24 August 2023 23:55 (seven months ago) link
Job bluth ‘Oh C’mon’ gif
― BlackIronPrison, Thursday, 24 August 2023 23:57 (seven months ago) link
xp Your death would be a loss. Trump's death would be addition by subtraction.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 24 August 2023 23:58 (seven months ago) link
hungry like hannibal lectergot a posse of fake electors
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 25 August 2023 00:02 (seven months ago) link
Meadows looks like a televangelist hauled in while still drunk
― I can't turn a fart into a question (Neanderthal), Friday, 25 August 2023 00:13 (seven months ago) link
All night coke bender
Where the fuck is Trump's mugshot? We got coffee cups to print.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 25 August 2023 00:18 (seven months ago) link
Donald Trump - "Not guilty, y'all got to feel me"
― I can't turn a fart into a question (Neanderthal), Friday, 25 August 2023 00:20 (seven months ago) link
😂
― The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 25 August 2023 00:21 (seven months ago) link
Unless it’s a hoax, the mugshot is making its way across the internet as I type
― The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 25 August 2023 00:22 (seven months ago) link
one fake one out there at least
the Trump mugshot being passed around is fakeits a photoshopped version of a pic of Trump from November 2020 pic.twitter.com/f6QAhPHh5T— Matt Binder (@MattBinder) August 25, 2023
― lag∞n, Friday, 25 August 2023 00:25 (seven months ago) link
poor work couldve easily made it look more like the others
― lag∞n, Friday, 25 August 2023 00:28 (seven months ago) link
yep it dropped
https://i.ibb.co/xfQ9Bnw/Trump-Toilet-Paper.jpg
― I can't turn a fart into a question (Neanderthal), Friday, 25 August 2023 00:32 (seven months ago) link
the real Trump mugshot will have him looking off to the side, not realizing the pic was being taken
Fake mugshots are a new American folk art, like scrimshaw
https://a57.foxnews.com/static.foxnews.com/foxnews.com/content/uploads/2023/04/640/320/Trump-Mugshot-fake.png
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 25 August 2023 00:34 (seven months ago) link
here it is officially confirmed
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F4VhuV_XcAAgB15?format=jpg&name=900x900
― lag∞n, Friday, 25 August 2023 00:35 (seven months ago) link
this is my current fave
https://holrmagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/FrnIkekWcAISB-8-759x500.jpg
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 25 August 2023 00:35 (seven months ago) link
he's given different heights and weights at each different booking
― I can't turn a fart into a question (Neanderthal), Friday, 25 August 2023 00:37 (seven months ago) link
this one is nice he looks like the grinch
https://i.imgur.com/rWWRPRA.png
― lag∞n, Friday, 25 August 2023 00:37 (seven months ago) link
Mark Meadows channeling a bit of 'i ate his liver with some fava beans and a nice chianti' in that mug shot.
― earlnash, Friday, 25 August 2023 00:39 (seven months ago) link
cnn saying thats the real one
BREAKING: Fulton County releases a mug shot following former President Donald Trump's fourth arrest this year https://t.co/3fQ12Kwd19 pic.twitter.com/hEHCVPT6U2— CNN (@CNN) August 25, 2023
― lag∞n, Friday, 25 August 2023 00:41 (seven months ago) link
this guy had it a half an hour ago sans watermark
is this real chat pic.twitter.com/QCBQsTtPYa— ettingermentum (@ettingermentum) August 25, 2023
― lag∞n, Friday, 25 August 2023 00:43 (seven months ago) link
maybe cnn is just looking on twitter tho
great photo honestly
Trump’s mug shot pic.twitter.com/VpRroM9Xf5— Kaitlan Collins (@kaitlancollins) August 25, 2023
― lag∞n, Friday, 25 August 2023 00:44 (seven months ago) link
looks like the shopped ones
― Clay, Friday, 25 August 2023 00:45 (seven months ago) link
i thought they publicly said they wouldn't release until 4 pm tomorrow?
unless it leaked which wouldn't shock me, some newly wealthy jail employee is about to put their two weeks in tomorrow
― I can't turn a fart into a question (Neanderthal), Friday, 25 August 2023 00:45 (seven months ago) link
that's his Blue Steel
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 25 August 2023 00:47 (seven months ago) link
that day, his heart shrunk three sizes
― I can't turn a fart into a question (Neanderthal), Friday, 25 August 2023 00:52 (seven months ago) link
Q is back baby
Oh my god it was first posted on 8kunhttps://t.co/QOE1X4t6HK pic.twitter.com/VvHVp6MAGm— Aric Toler (@AricToler) August 25, 2023
― lag∞n, Friday, 25 August 2023 00:53 (seven months ago) link
whoa has that Qweet already been disappeared?
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 25 August 2023 00:58 (seven months ago) link
yeah he was confused
8kun post was actually ~20min after the tweethttps://t.co/QOE1X4t6HK— Aric Toler (@AricToler) August 25, 2023
― lag∞n, Friday, 25 August 2023 01:03 (seven months ago) link
The new winner of first post, from 8:05pm EST. https://t.co/gXaxS2XNnP— Aric Toler (@AricToler) August 25, 2023
― lag∞n, Friday, 25 August 2023 01:07 (seven months ago) link
You know what? 😭 pic.twitter.com/1yKpB5EJmR— chris evans (@notcapnamerica) August 25, 2023
― read-only (unperson), Friday, 25 August 2023 01:51 (seven months ago) link
he tweeted
https://t.co/MlIKklPSJT pic.twitter.com/Mcbf2xozsY— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) August 25, 2023
― lag∞n, Friday, 25 August 2023 02:01 (seven months ago) link
first time since
To all of those who have asked, I will not be going to the Inauguration on January 20th.— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) January 8, 2021
― lag∞n, Friday, 25 August 2023 02:02 (seven months ago) link
Interesting
― hardcore technician gimmicks are also another popular choice f (President Keyes), Friday, 25 August 2023 02:14 (seven months ago) link
Trump and Elon always had to get together at some point.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Friday, 25 August 2023 03:19 (seven months ago) link
This is good for a few chuckles.
The Georgia Indictment Mug Shots: A Close Reading
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2023/08/georgia-rico-mug-shots-who-managed-to-pose-for-the-best-one-so-far.html
Wearing the vacant gaze of the deeply hypnotized, paired with a white, collarless blouse, Powell looks like a member of the chain-smoking doomsday cult in The Leftovers being nabbed for a bout of domestic terrorism. Her forehead is placid and dewy; her grin is slack. Having been red-pilled against the deep state in the way of an internet-illiterate boomer, Powell is a true believer. This mug shot is all part of Trump’s beautiful master plan. There is nothing to fear.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 25 August 2023 03:44 (seven months ago) link
She doesn't look like Ann Dowd's character, but Gladys, a little bit. (Nitpicking Leftovers fan.)
https://i.postimg.cc/K8xt0h7W/gladys.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/SxSzW7kF/powell.jpg
― clemenza, Friday, 25 August 2023 04:00 (seven months ago) link
Yeah, I was gonna say, that's not Ann Dowd (whom I know mostly from Handmaid's Tale).
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 25 August 2023 04:03 (seven months ago) link
Ann Dowd in The Leftovers is what Trump's lawyer should have looked like.
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-rwFoB-Fls34/WYy8J4NxMPI/AAAAAAAAEOM/HvhuMgu0VgInF-5eF38UgxZBUx-rjJMowCLcBGAs/s1600/ann%2Bdowd.jpg
― clemenza, Friday, 25 August 2023 04:06 (seven months ago) link
LOL @ the absolute state of this clown
― Monthly Python (Tom D.), Friday, 25 August 2023 06:12 (seven months ago) link
when you click “our team” on a baptist church website pic.twitter.com/QjLB35ru9P— Mason Mennenga (@masonmennenga) August 24, 2023
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 25 August 2023 08:35 (seven months ago) link
i'm coming back around to 'classic' tbh
― come on barbo let’s go parpo (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 25 August 2023 10:22 (seven months ago) link
When this whole Georgia Trump trial shebang is functionally disabled and possibly dismissed through the attempted or actual removal of Willis from her office in October— these antics will be the fun times that I recall fondly.
― the freedom of birds is an insult to me (Hunt3r), Friday, 25 August 2023 11:08 (seven months ago) link
Oh, stop.
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 25 August 2023 11:18 (seven months ago) link
Powell looks like an A24 ghoul or a creepy doll that moves when you're not looking at it.
Giving Graham Ingels vibes
― Cow_Art, Friday, 25 August 2023 11:34 (seven months ago) link
When this whole Georgia Trump trial shebang is functionally disabled and possibly dismissed through the attempted or actual removal of Willis from her office
that's some heinous-clickbait-article-on-the-newsweek-site thinkin, suh
― honey badger drinks when he wants (stevie), Friday, 25 August 2023 12:35 (seven months ago) link
Who let NYT Pitchbot into this thread
― I can't turn a fart into a question (Neanderthal), Friday, 25 August 2023 12:49 (seven months ago) link
Maybe all doom posting can automatically be replaced by the classic “wriggle out of this jam” tweet. It captures the sentiment so no need to keep finding new ways of saying it
― But his face would not turn into hot Kirby (Evan), Friday, 25 August 2023 12:53 (seven months ago) link
hi jenna ellis x
― close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Friday, 25 August 2023 12:55 (seven months ago) link
i would have more confidence in his wriggling abilities if there was one case instead of four
― lag∞n, Friday, 25 August 2023 12:56 (seven months ago) link
srsly, Hunt3r, that's embarrassing.
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 25 August 2023 12:56 (seven months ago) link
Assuming it doesn't already exist, one of you nerds should whip up an Atlanta PD mugshot generator.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 25 August 2023 13:07 (seven months ago) link
― deep wubs and tribral rhythms (Boring, Maryland), Friday, 25 August 2023 13:09 (seven months ago) link
― close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Friday, 25 August 2023 13:13 (seven months ago) link
#mugshot #atlantapdfilter
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 25 August 2023 13:13 (seven months ago) link
an ex-President got arrested in Atlanta and all I got was this lousy pee tape
― I can't turn a fart into a question (Neanderthal), Friday, 25 August 2023 13:24 (seven months ago) link
xp ha sorry to disappoint. it was partly meant to be some doom humor, about y'know, now. these good times. there are suits pending against the law, there's kemp's own ambitions, there's the commission, and public opinion.
on the other hand, it's real, and donnie does not necessarily need to win, he needs to slow all of his procedures way down while he foments-- whatever it is that he's hoping to foment. actually cancel that, he needs to win, but delay helps.
― the freedom of birds is an insult to me (Hunt3r), Friday, 25 August 2023 13:28 (seven months ago) link
re: Hunt3r's magical thinking ... Anyone who thinks we're going to somehow escape the mess we're now in during our lifetimes is kidding themselves
― fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Friday, 25 August 2023 13:28 (seven months ago) link
yeah I"ve already made my peace with that. the damage by this current court won't be actively stopped at earliest for probably decades and then the lasting effects by what they've done, well, longer than that.
nevermind that in 20 years it will be 173 degrees outside.
but...i don't dwell on it anymore, just try and live life the best I can
― I can't turn a fart into a question (Neanderthal), Friday, 25 August 2023 13:31 (seven months ago) link
Yep, and knowing that the MAGA crowd will have one hell of a time finding a new avatar
― fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Friday, 25 August 2023 13:33 (seven months ago) link
sorry, messiah
I'm not one of those people who've spent the last 48 hours deliriously chronicling every waddle Trump's made, but I'm not one for Eric's strawman either. I know no one who thinks we'll somehow "escape" anything.
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 25 August 2023 13:36 (seven months ago) link
Pretty sure James Cameron already promised two or three more Avatars.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 25 August 2023 13:37 (seven months ago) link
xp Little miss evil
― fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Friday, 25 August 2023 13:38 (seven months ago) link
Poor little flower.
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 25 August 2023 13:43 (seven months ago) link
they kept saying on the news how it was a solemn time and nobody was happy about this...but they were totally wrong! i was very happy. i couldn't have been happier.
― scott seward, Friday, 25 August 2023 13:48 (seven months ago) link
It will be an even happier day when Giuliani receives some poetic justice i.e. getting shanked to ribbons inside the big house
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 25 August 2023 13:51 (seven months ago) link
xps Why do they always look like unhappy rabbits?
― fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Friday, 25 August 2023 14:03 (seven months ago) link
I know no one who thinks we'll somehow "escape" anything.
I won't stop believing.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/e0/JourneyEscapealbumcover.jpg
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Friday, 25 August 2023 14:10 (seven months ago) link
Who's crying now?
― hardcore technician gimmicks are also another popular choice f (President Keyes), Friday, 25 August 2023 14:12 (seven months ago) link
A buddy of mine came to the bar last night to tie one on in celebration of Booking Day. He ordered a Mug Shot of my choice, so I gave him a shot of our best tequila in a Moscow Mule mug. Anyway, on his way down into a dissolute puddle he said, "Back in WWII they said that the greatest hero of the war would be the person who killed Hitler, and that turned out to be Hitler. Today the greatest hero might be the person who kills the Republican Party, and that's going to turn out to be Trump." It was kind of funny/striking at the time but maybe a little overoptimistic?
― The Terroir of Tiny Town (WmC), Friday, 25 August 2023 14:12 (seven months ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCPIdzXk8Xo
― scott seward, Friday, 25 August 2023 14:14 (seven months ago) link
(can't remember the last time i felt compelled to share an msnbc moment but we are living in upresidneted tomes. times. pressindented.)
― scott seward, Friday, 25 August 2023 14:15 (seven months ago) link
― scott seward, Friday, August 25, 2023 9:48 AM (twenty-six minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
It's just something public figures have to reiterate to counter accusations of it being a politically motivated revenge scheme or whatever.
― But his face would not turn into hot Kirby (Evan), Friday, 25 August 2023 14:18 (seven months ago) link
reid piece has some clarity for you usa
― you need magical thinking ayo my name is david blaine (Hunt3r), Friday, 25 August 2023 14:26 (seven months ago) link
nobody on this site named usa iirc
― The Terroir of Tiny Town (WmC), Friday, 25 August 2023 14:29 (seven months ago) link
it me
― you need magical thinking ayo my name is david blaine (Hunt3r), Friday, 25 August 2023 14:30 (seven months ago) link
I don't even own an America
― I can't turn a fart into a question (Neanderthal), Friday, 25 August 2023 14:44 (seven months ago) link
mesa yousa wesa usa
― hardcore technician gimmicks are also another popular choice f (President Keyes), Friday, 25 August 2023 14:51 (seven months ago) link
I do not think Brian Kemp will be inclined to call a special session of the Georgia legislature to remove Fani Willis from office. He loathes Trump, and does not need the crisis that would ensue.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 25 August 2023 14:59 (seven months ago) link
removing a special prosecutor from office doesn't end a criminal trial, anyway, just slows it down
― I can't turn a fart into a question (Neanderthal), Friday, 25 August 2023 15:01 (seven months ago) link
which, yes, is the goal, but it's going to have limited efficacy
― I can't turn a fart into a question (Neanderthal), Friday, 25 August 2023 15:02 (seven months ago) link
we should elect someone to represent usa
― i really like that!! (z_tbd), Friday, 25 August 2023 16:00 (seven months ago) link
i also liked how the one msnbc anchor kept saying "Thomas Cheezebro/Chezbro" both ways because she admitted she didn't know how to pronounce it. it was just funny to hear her say it 50 times. everyone should do that. even if they figure out the right way to say it.
― scott seward, Friday, 25 August 2023 16:39 (seven months ago) link
Cheesebro
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 25 August 2023 16:57 (seven months ago) link
outrageous name
― lag∞n, Friday, 25 August 2023 17:00 (seven months ago) link
Soon to be known simply by a number.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 25 August 2023 17:02 (seven months ago) link
Derek Jeter broke ankle one day after he sold his apartment in Trump World Tower.— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) October 21, 2012
― lag∞n, Friday, 25 August 2023 17:03 (seven months ago) link
there's a "Chesebro Rd" in Thousand Oaks. It is next to "Cheesebro & Palo Comado Canyon".
― actual veggie mexican pizza received (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 25 August 2023 17:04 (seven months ago) link
Don't forget HOF'er and 41-game winner Jack Chesbro of the New York Highlanders.
― clemenza, Friday, 25 August 2023 17:17 (seven months ago) link
May I digress?
there's a "Chesebro Rd" in Thousand Oaks.
As an avid wakeboarder living in Malibu, I can firmly assure you there is no "Chesebro Rd" in TO. You have to jump over a few canyons closer to the valley to find Chesebro Rd in Old Agoura.
― citation needed (Steve Shasta), Friday, 25 August 2023 17:23 (seven months ago) link
This is 6'3" and 215lbs (left), not this (blech/right): pic.twitter.com/dGT3nteK48— Brian of Nazareth 🌻 (@Brian_of_Judea) August 24, 2023
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 25 August 2023 17:42 (seven months ago) link
the mugshot is a bit... https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/muppet/images/e/e9/Samseditorial.jpg
― StanM, Friday, 25 August 2023 17:44 (seven months ago) link
thank you dinesh, very cool!https://x.com/dineshdsouza/status/1695100601586106626
― come on barbo let’s go parpo (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 25 August 2023 18:13 (seven months ago) link
How do you go about getting an “impartial” jury together to try a president, especially this guy
― Grandall Flange (wins), Friday, 25 August 2023 18:26 (seven months ago) link
Juror questionnaire: How often did you watch 'The Apprentice'? A) NeverB) Infrequently C) Every goddamn episode
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 25 August 2023 18:31 (seven months ago) link
xxpost Remember when Tupac Shakur's mugshot was an UP YOURS to "the man"?
― hardcore technician gimmicks are also another popular choice f (President Keyes), Friday, 25 August 2023 18:38 (seven months ago) link
What kind of President is Donald Trump?
A) FormerB) CurrentC) Your Favorite
― hardcore technician gimmicks are also another popular choice f (President Keyes), Friday, 25 August 2023 18:40 (seven months ago) link
Trump's next mixtape will be straight fire yo
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 25 August 2023 19:03 (seven months ago) link
i'm ready for the posthumous mixtapes.
― scott seward, Friday, 25 August 2023 19:08 (seven months ago) link
It's a good question, as we somehow have plenty of undecided voters in this country who could theoretically serve as impartial jurors, but they seem to be missing the part of their brain that allows them to form an actual opinion about a man who has been one of the most public of public figures for decades upon decades so I don't know how evidence presented over the course of mere days would be enough to dissuade their fence-sitting.
― Prop Dramedy (Old Lunch), Friday, 25 August 2023 19:09 (seven months ago) link
xposts
A buddy of mine came to the bar last night to tie one on in celebration of Booking Day. He ordered a Mug Shot of my choice, so I gave him a shot of our best tequila in a Moscow Mule mug.
ty for this, pun name aside: just put a mule mug in the freezer to try a shot from when it's hot tonight
― vashti funyuns (sic), Friday, 25 August 2023 19:09 (seven months ago) link
this is how to do it
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F4Y0gv7XQAAU2pF?format=jpg
― mark s, Friday, 25 August 2023 19:15 (seven months ago) link
https://www.self-titledmag.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/R-30849-1336914949-4168.jpeg
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 25 August 2023 19:19 (seven months ago) link
Awwww, she probably thinks she's terrifying liberals or something
― But his face would not turn into hot Kirby (Evan), Friday, 25 August 2023 19:21 (seven months ago) link
If you share Trump’s mugshot today, please share that the Fulton County Jail it was taken at, is at 3x it’s capacity, infested with bugs, is holding 87% Black people, most of whom haven’t seen a day in court.Six people have died in custody this year. Fuck cops, fuck jails.— ashley fairbanks (@ziibiing) August 24, 2023
― out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Friday, 25 August 2023 19:26 (seven months ago) link
Zillow reports @realDonaldTrump sold Mar-a-Lago to Don Jr for $422 million before the old man’s latest arrestThe price seems greatly inflated. Trump bought it, furniture & all, with an unrecorded $10 million mortgage.There’s a tax story, and maybe a tax crime in this. pic.twitter.com/sbul784amD— David Cay Johnston (@DavidCayJ) August 25, 2023
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 25 August 2023 19:27 (seven months ago) link
not above grifting his own son, I like it
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 25 August 2023 19:33 (seven months ago) link
Here’s an incomplete list of athletes with the same height and weight as Donald Trump who said he was 6’3 and 215 Pounds. A thread. 🧵First up is quarterback Aaron Rodgers who is 6’2, 223 pounds. pic.twitter.com/B1lqq8xA24— CALL TO ACTIVISM (@CalltoActivism) August 25, 2023
― fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Friday, 25 August 2023 19:35 (seven months ago) link
https://frinkiac.com/gif/S07E07/373305/376225.gif?b64lines=
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 25 August 2023 19:45 (seven months ago) link
Hold up, how did DJTJ come up with half a billion dollar to spend on an estate?
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 25 August 2023 19:54 (seven months ago) link
74,223,975 voters
― fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Friday, 25 August 2023 19:55 (seven months ago) link
he pre-sold mugshot toilet paper. made a bundle.
― scott seward, Friday, 25 August 2023 20:09 (seven months ago) link
This is our local county mayor (and former pro wrestler), but it's representative of the weird idolatry that mugshot is inspiring on the right.
Here's the moral of the story: hate @realDonaldTrump all you want. But NO ONE stands up against the Establishment like he does. Thanks to that mugshot, he now represents anyone who has ever been stepped on or screwed over by The Man. Good luck stopping him.— Glenn Jacobs (@GlennJacobsTN) August 25, 2023
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Friday, 25 August 2023 20:58 (seven months ago) link
part of the brainworms is not understanding who “the Man” is
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Friday, 25 August 2023 20:59 (seven months ago) link
check him for CTE
― I can't turn a fart into a question (Neanderthal), Friday, 25 August 2023 21:01 (seven months ago) link
Really fucking sick of the "all this does is makes him stronger" memes.
― Large, Complex, Detailed but Irrefutable POST (Dan Peterson), Friday, 25 August 2023 21:03 (seven months ago) link
Donald Trump, the struggling everyman that Woody Guthrie wrote songs about
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 25 August 2023 21:23 (seven months ago) link
its all they got
― lag∞n, Friday, 25 August 2023 21:27 (seven months ago) link
well, Biden does pilates and spin classes
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 25 August 2023 21:28 (seven months ago) link
Donald Trump may have just suffered a catastrophic prolapse, but all it did was show the Liberal Elite that he has guts.
― Prop Dramedy (Old Lunch), Friday, 25 August 2023 21:43 (seven months ago) link
This machine kills taxes
― I can't turn a fart into a question (Neanderthal), Friday, 25 August 2023 23:34 (seven months ago) link
I have a lot of respect for this local burger joint up the road from me, which is popular with a very normie suburban crowd but DGAF.
Straight Outta https://t.co/labTsqt1cJ records listed his height as 6-patties-3oz and his weight as 215 calories. The source of the jail's information is unclear, and it appeared online before the burger arrived at the jailhouse. 🦍🍔🍻🤥🥸 #knoxville #burgertime #burgers pic.twitter.com/sK8gy84206— Inskip Grill (@InskipGrill) August 26, 2023
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Saturday, 26 August 2023 14:59 (seven months ago) link
― Large, Complex, Detailed but Irrefutable POST (Dan Peterson),
Especially since it's not true:
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2023/08/25/ipsos-poll-trump-indictment-00112755
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 26 August 2023 15:05 (seven months ago) link
I mean if it was just the Stormy Daniels shit it probably would actually help him and make him look like a victim trouble is he just committed so many crimes and did them in a way that left no plausible deniability whatsoever
― frogbs, Saturday, 26 August 2023 15:59 (seven months ago) link
Even as he remains the clear frontrunner for the Republican nomination, the cascading indictments are likely to take a toll on his general election prospects.
By all means drag the party down with you.
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 26 August 2023 16:26 (seven months ago) link
Yeah everybody, even people who don’t pay attention to the news, saw him lead a mob to attack the Capitol to try to overturn the election he lost.
― deep wubs and tribral rhythms (Boring, Maryland), Saturday, 26 August 2023 16:41 (seven months ago) link
I mean, he's been doing exactly that since the moment he was elected. Lost seats in both midterms, pushed insane losers as candidates for entirely winnable state elections...he's poison, but people (not only journalists but actual humans) continue to insist he's a genius because he tumbled backward into the presidency through an unrepeatable combination of lucky breaks.
― read-only (unperson), Saturday, 26 August 2023 17:04 (seven months ago) link
I'm biased b/c I live in Florida, but he and his party have lost every election since 2017.
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 26 August 2023 17:14 (seven months ago) link
xp don't interrupt the enemy when they are making a mistake
― deep wubs and tribral rhythms (Boring, Maryland), Saturday, 26 August 2023 17:27 (seven months ago) link
If he retains the nomination, his presence on the ballot (and his inevitable endorsement of whackadoodle downticket candidates) might have the very welcome effect of dragging the party down. Possibly flipping some close raves and maybe giving the Ds some traction on clawing back a legislature or two.
Note: not arguing for a Trump candidacy as a good 4D chess move. Just speculation.
― Pontius Pilates (Ye Mad Puffin), Saturday, 26 August 2023 17:45 (seven months ago) link
*close races, sheesh
― Pontius Pilates (Ye Mad Puffin), Saturday, 26 August 2023 17:46 (seven months ago) link
A neo-Nazi Christian organization that supports DeSantis just defaced the local LGBTQ Center in Orlando overnight.
God I hate this state
― I can't turn a fart into a question (Neanderthal), Saturday, 26 August 2023 17:55 (seven months ago) link
This is happening right now, but the judge has already apparently rejected both the defense *and* DOJ's suggested trial date. But this is intriguing:
Judge Chutkan at Trump election case hearing: “Setting a trial date does not depend and should not depend on the defendant’s personal and professional obligations. Mr Trump, like any defendant, will have to make the trial date work regardless of his schedule.”— Hugo Lowell (@hugolowell) August 28, 2023
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 28 August 2023 14:12 (seven months ago) link
Election day trial
― I can't turn a fart into a question (Neanderthal), Monday, 28 August 2023 14:13 (seven months ago) link
his followers will be watching and forget to vote
"My client requests a delay so that he can carry out his second coup attempt."
― hardcore technician gimmicks are also another popular choice f (President Keyes), Monday, 28 August 2023 14:28 (seven months ago) link
haha-- i was typing: can a trial atty tell me how often defense even requests press of business resked due to client's non-legal conflicts?-- outside of like life or death surgery, or death in the family? asking for it sounds more notable than chutkan's response.
― you need magical thinking ay my name is david blaine (Hunt3r), Monday, 28 August 2023 14:50 (seven months ago) link
meadows is taking the stand today. bold move for an incredibly unequipped man
― i really like that!! (z_tbd), Monday, 28 August 2023 15:06 (seven months ago) link
Mark Meadows is testifying at today's hearing where he's trying to move his case from state to federal court, per @KatelynPolantz @MarshallCohen: “Those were challenging times, bluntly,” Meadows said. “I don’t know if anyone was fully prepared for that type of job."— Jeremy Herb (@jeremyherb) August 28, 2023
the trump orbit's collective defense is "i was too dumb to know what was going on"
― i really like that!! (z_tbd), Monday, 28 August 2023 15:07 (seven months ago) link
He's clearly trying to move his case to federal court because he has some deal with Jack Smith, right?
― hardcore technician gimmicks are also another popular choice f (President Keyes), Monday, 28 August 2023 15:09 (seven months ago) link
that video of Roger Stone admitting they'd lost the election and then dictating how they were going to pursue a criminal conspiracy to overturn the result is pretty wild. I find it crazy that it wasn't cctv footage - he'd invited a film crew in and he just carried on like this in front of them!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 28 August 2023 15:17 (seven months ago) link
BREAKING: Chutkan sets **March 4, 2024** for Trump's trial on charges that he conspired to subvert the 2020 election.— Kyle Cheney (@kyledcheney) August 28, 2023
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 28 August 2023 15:24 (seven months ago) link
LOL suck it Trump
― I can't turn a fart into a question (Neanderthal), Monday, 28 August 2023 15:26 (seven months ago) link
A day before Super Tuesday
― jaymc, Monday, 28 August 2023 15:29 (seven months ago) link
maybe he could argue that the trial was going to distract from his campaign if he was bothering to even show up for debates and stuff
― hardcore technician gimmicks are also another popular choice f (President Keyes), Monday, 28 August 2023 15:36 (seven months ago) link
"Muh rallies!"
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 28 August 2023 15:53 (seven months ago) link
what about the other 3 trials? I assume they'll be scheduled in 2024 as well? seems pretty bad for Donnie, I don't care what conservatives say having to spend a big chunk of your campaign on trial for trying to subvert the last election does not bode well for his chances
― frogbs, Monday, 28 August 2023 16:31 (seven months ago) link
His lawyers are going to dump as much chaff in the system as possible.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 28 August 2023 16:33 (seven months ago) link
I don't know of many defendants who have so angered the judges before their trials even begin. (Excluding that weird judge on the Documents case.) Patience is going to be low for antics.
― hardcore technician gimmicks are also another popular choice f (President Keyes), Monday, 28 August 2023 16:39 (seven months ago) link
Roger Stone needs to shot into the sun
― deep wubs and tribral rhythms (Boring, Maryland), Monday, 28 August 2023 16:53 (seven months ago) link
I don't say this to join the doom and gloom brigade -- overall I think these trials are bad for him and good for us sane Americans -- but it is a bit of a bummer that they are going to provide a constant stream of dramatic inflammatory content in the lead up to the election. The chance was pretty slim anyway that the media would have learned any lessons about not feeding the beast, but with all this shit going on that chance drops to 0. And if 2016 taught us anything it's that there's not really such a thing as bad press for this guy. Ah well, nevertheless
― Lavator Shemmelpennick, Monday, 28 August 2023 17:22 (seven months ago) link
The thing is, the media matter less now; what happens is in the hands of the judges who must watch as Trump exhausts their patience.
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 28 August 2023 17:26 (seven months ago) link
Also, swing voters will have had 9 years of being tired of Trump being injected into their veins 24/7
― fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Monday, 28 August 2023 17:29 (seven months ago) link
And if 2016 taught us anything it's that there's not really such a thing as bad press for this guy.
Meanwhile, 2017, 2018, 2019, 2020, 2021, 2022 and 2023 have taught you nothing. But thanks for piping up!
― read-only (unperson), Monday, 28 August 2023 17:33 (seven months ago) link
Hey now, like I said, I think these are good developments. I am just bracing myself for his nonstop visage to continue to be everywhere for the foreseeable future. I recognize that was gonna happen anyway, it’s just an unpleasant aspect of the reality we live in, allow me to vent about that unpleasantness
― Lavator Shemmelpennick, Monday, 28 August 2023 17:39 (seven months ago) link
think of it this way, if somebody came to me to sponsor their youth baseball league, and they already had a decent amount of cash from their other sponsors, but they needed just that last little piece to get them across the finish line to cover operations.
and all of the other sponsors were eager and believed in the brand, whereas I was opportunistic and self-serving - I thought all of the kids and parents in the league were shitty, garbage people, and figured "ehh, the league will probably fold mid-season, for me it's a tax write-off and and I'll build my brand and look like I care about youth, win-win, besides Pony League sucks" and then they preceded to be the worst little shits in the world and at the center of a number of terrible in-town controversies, hurting my brand, and then they somehow made it through the end of the season....
and they come back to me to re-up my sponsorship for the next year, and the other sponsors were still mega enthusiastic but I said "fuck no, not after what happened last time"....
that's basically Trump. he got the outside help he needed in 2016 from a lot of naive, stupid people who don't want any part of him again, and he can't win without them.
― I can't turn a fart into a question (Neanderthal), Monday, 28 August 2023 17:44 (seven months ago) link
We already know that Trump's most eager followers have a huge appetite for social destruction, so his crimes matter nothing to them. In this primary phase of the election the main question is whether the less nihilistic, more laissez-faire Republicans continue to wash Trump's feet and dry them with their hair.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Monday, 28 August 2023 17:45 (seven months ago) link
appetite for social destruction
It's so easy.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 28 August 2023 17:59 (seven months ago) link
wash Trump's feet and dry them with their hair.
― deep wubs and tribral rhythms (Boring, Maryland), Monday, 28 August 2023 18:00 (seven months ago) link
Patience is going to be low for antics.
What about hijinks?
Shenanigans?
Tomfoolery?
― Pontius Pilates (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 28 August 2023 18:00 (seven months ago) link
What about Our Love to Admire?
― hardcore technician gimmicks are also another popular choice f (President Keyes), Monday, 28 August 2023 18:05 (seven months ago) link
Selecting any random set of days from Wikipedia's extensive timeline of the Trump presidency is a reminder that there were like 1,000 forgotten controversies for every one we collectively remember. pic.twitter.com/258CAqF60V— Alex Seitz-Wald (@aseitzwald) August 30, 2023
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 30 August 2023 18:22 (seven months ago) link
see also
https://whatthefuckjusthappenedtoday.com/
― out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Wednesday, 30 August 2023 18:22 (seven months ago) link
LOL, lock 'em all up Donnie
(Glenn) Beck said: “Do you regret not locking (Clinton) up? And if you’re president again, will you lock people up?”
Trump said: “The answer is you have no choice, because they’re doing it to us.”
Trump has encouraged the “lock her up” chant against other opponents but he remains in considerable danger of being locked up himself.
― Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 30 August 2023 23:13 (seven months ago) link
that's a genuinely deranged question to ask
― frogbs, Wednesday, 30 August 2023 23:54 (seven months ago) link
Yeah, I thought Beck had some kind of mea culpa a few years ago, but I guess he's still a kook
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 31 August 2023 00:01 (seven months ago) link
"And if you’re president again, will you lock people up?”https://townsquare.media/site/295/files/2017/12/macca-farleyv2.jpg?w=980&q=75
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 31 August 2023 00:05 (seven months ago) link
― Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, August 30, 2023 8:01 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
he tried rebrand as reasonable but it didnt take, not sure what he was thinking
― lag∞n, Thursday, 31 August 2023 01:18 (seven months ago) link
I thought he was going blind. Did he rebrand as sighted?
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 31 August 2023 01:21 (seven months ago) link
He really tried to rebrand? As sensible? Guess I could look this up somewhere.
― tobo73, Thursday, 31 August 2023 02:27 (seven months ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/GMjnXrt.png
― lag∞n, Thursday, 31 August 2023 02:35 (seven months ago) link
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
― Clay, Thursday, 31 August 2023 02:54 (seven months ago) link
If only he had lost the power of speech.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 31 August 2023 21:22 (seven months ago) link
NEW: Judge says court will allow livestreaming of proceedings in the Georgia election interference case against former Pres. Trump and others. https://t.co/YvoiRiRuxx— ABC News (@ABC) August 31, 2023
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 1 September 2023 01:41 (seven months ago) link
No doubt in my mind that's the right decision, even though it will be escalate the level of media pundit bloviation, incessant public chatter, and general political tension to nearly unbearable levels.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 1 September 2023 01:47 (seven months ago) link
I think I will wait for the 12" club remix
― Pontius Pilates (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 1 September 2023 01:56 (seven months ago) link
Donnie Goes To Atlantawood
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 1 September 2023 01:57 (seven months ago) link
Fulton County hearing is now streaming live
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Wednesday, 6 September 2023 17:54 (seven months ago) link
Donny NoCash live at Fulton
― StanM, Wednesday, 6 September 2023 20:02 (seven months ago) link
looks like the result of the hearing is that Chesebro and Powell will be tried together starting Oct. 23, it has not been determined whether the other 17 defendants will also be a part of that trial, but the judge said he was skeptical that they should be.
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Wednesday, 6 September 2023 20:17 (seven months ago) link
That needs a snappy portmanteau like PoBro or Chesebrowell or CheeseBowel.
― Pontius Pilates (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 6 September 2023 21:27 (seven months ago) link
still stunned at Tarrio getting 22 years, I mean no sympathy for that guy obviously but that's pretty harsh. and I think it then follows that Trump himself deserves 2222 years, though I suspect it's probably gonna be 3 months of house arrest at Mar-a-Lago or something. though I guess we've reached such a bizarre point in US History that it seems useless to speculate anything.
― frogbs, Wednesday, 6 September 2023 21:32 (seven months ago) link
oath keeper guy got 18, same ballpark for the masterminds, if the mob had been antifa they wouldve tried to put terrorism charges on ever last person within a mile of the capitol
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 6 September 2023 21:35 (seven months ago) link
as theyre doing now with the anti cop city people in atlanta
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 6 September 2023 21:36 (seven months ago) link
no time to go wobbly. in an ideal world tall members of right-wing street-fighting paramilitaires would be liquidated by the dictatorship of the proletariat
― deep wubs and tribral rhythms (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 6 September 2023 22:29 (seven months ago) link
short members, too
His whole 'I can't be a white nationalist, I'm Cuban!' thing never really gained much traction
― Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 6 September 2023 22:41 (seven months ago) link
I'll admit that I haven't been following the details of who did what but didn't Tarrio plot and attempt a coup? How is 22 years harsh?
― Chyiv Kyiv (Fetchboy), Wednesday, 6 September 2023 22:59 (seven months ago) link
re: Trump not Tarrio, did this get missed?
Trump is liable in the second E. Jean Carroll defamation case, judge rules; January trial will determine damages
― out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Wednesday, 6 September 2023 23:00 (seven months ago) link
in that trial-streaming image, Asshole is looking more like a gob of suet thrown at the backdrop than usual
― assert (matttkkkk), Wednesday, 6 September 2023 23:03 (seven months ago) link
― Chyiv Kyiv (Fetchboy), Wednesday, September 6, 2023 5:59 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
i'm not really following the details either but was he really the main guy? did this shit really start with the Proud Boys? feel like if that was the case he wouldn't have been out on bail
― frogbs, Thursday, 7 September 2023 00:03 (seven months ago) link
i dont think anyones saying they caused the whole thing but they did make a seditious plot and then carry it out
― lag∞n, Thursday, 7 September 2023 00:18 (seven months ago) link
yeah, they weren't there to sightsee the capitol
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 7 September 2023 00:20 (seven months ago) link
idk its just seeing these guys actually face serious consequences feels so weird, seems like the only time they face this stuff is when they literally execute a mass shooting. and even then you get to pick up a Whopper™ on your way to jail
― frogbs, Thursday, 7 September 2023 00:22 (seven months ago) link
the government frowns on overrunning their special building
― lag∞n, Thursday, 7 September 2023 00:24 (seven months ago) link
This version of democracy is sort of ending, so I don’t know if I’ve got room to have cold feet over 20some years vs 2 or 3
― fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Thursday, 7 September 2023 02:11 (seven months ago) link
apparently the saudis have, or are about to, execute a dude for tweeting to his eight followers
given the historical punishments, this guy is getting off pretty easy for legit sedition
― mookieproof, Thursday, 7 September 2023 02:21 (seven months ago) link
he defense was apparently "i was not in DC on jan 6" which is true, and seems pretty exculpatory until you hear what he did before and on jan 6.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 7 September 2023 02:57 (seven months ago) link
lol yeah I kinda figured if he got that sentence without even being there maybe he really fucked up after all
― frogbs, Thursday, 7 September 2023 03:02 (seven months ago) link
Yeah, I mean, like a lot of people online noted, Osama Bin Laden didn't fly the planes, Charles Manson didn't kill any of the Tate-LaBianca victims, etc.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 7 September 2023 12:14 (seven months ago) link
Tarrio was the Proud Boys leader.
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 7 September 2023 12:21 (seven months ago) link
leader of an organized group that used code words and allusions to tell the members to do exactly what they did, and one cooperating member testified that it was clear to him and others exactly what they were being told to do. Tarrio wasn’t there but was sending encrypted messages saying things like “keep doing it” on January 6Roger Stone squeaked out with a presidential commutation and pardon but I would guess any coordination he did as one of a handful of people that talked to multiple groups was also vague. So the loosely-affiliated groups and assorted qanon types at the capitol were really waiting for some sort of orders and the most they got was Trump making vague tweets.
― mh, Thursday, 7 September 2023 12:40 (seven months ago) link
― deep wubs and tribral rhythms (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 7 September 2023 12:43 (seven months ago) link
were the Proud Boys the ones that organized the whole Jan 6th thing? honestly I don't know how that got started.
― frogbs, Thursday, 7 September 2023 13:11 (seven months ago) link
Frogs man, where you been?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planning_of_the_January_6_United_States_Capitol_attack
― peace, man, Thursday, 7 September 2023 13:32 (seven months ago) link
I don't know if this makes me a bad person, as I have severe issues with the carceral system, but it did me good to read about these vile, racist pieces of shit and how long they're likely to spend in prison for what they've done.
― honey badger drinks when he wants (stevie), Thursday, 7 September 2023 13:35 (seven months ago) link
the half serious nature of their endeavor is interesting to me, on the cusp of larping and for real, infused with wishful conspiracy thinking
― lag∞n, Thursday, 7 September 2023 13:36 (seven months ago) link
hmmm interesting that Trump himself was directly encouraging these guys wonder what'll happen to him
― frogbs, Thursday, 7 September 2023 13:36 (seven months ago) link
lock him up haha (irony)
― lag∞n, Thursday, 7 September 2023 13:38 (seven months ago) link
I don't know how you guys feel, but Tarrio's conviction and incarceration have brought me more pleasure than Trump's indictments.
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 7 September 2023 13:40 (seven months ago) link
maybe because Miami has thousands of Tarrio wannabes who may turn to video games and porn for their jollies instead of harassing trans folks and waving flags.
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 7 September 2023 13:41 (seven months ago) link
Apparently Tarrio was offered a plea deal (9-11 years) that he passed on.
Before trial, USA offered Proud Boys plea deals, revealed yesterday. They passed. Result: Offer | Sentence after trialTarrio 9-11 yrs| 22 yrsNordean 6-8 yrs | 18 yrsBiggs 6-8 yrs | 17 yrsRehl 6-7 yrs | 15 yrsPezzola 4-5 yrs | 10 yrs/1 pic.twitter.com/OGf0CdRipr— Roger Parloff (@rparloff) September 7, 2023
― brownie, Thursday, 7 September 2023 13:47 (seven months ago) link
Art of the Deal baby
― frogbs, Thursday, 7 September 2023 13:48 (seven months ago) link
I'd insert downer John Oliver rant about plea deals here but ... nah, not this time
― fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Thursday, 7 September 2023 13:50 (seven months ago) link
they got off easy
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F5a85mDWcAAR94Q?format=jpg&name=large
― lag∞n, Thursday, 7 September 2023 13:52 (seven months ago) link
What about Gavin? I know he stepped down as leader or whatever but... it's weird to me that he was never even kicked out of the U.S. Does that mean he does a ton of snitching/informing in addition to whatever other garbage he gets up to?
― dell (del), Thursday, 7 September 2023 13:55 (seven months ago) link
The judge has made a point that he's picking sentences between the gov. requested max and the defense mins mostly (iirc) because he's not embracing the full terrorism scope of the charges, since what these assholes did was nonetheless not quite at the level of driving a U-Haul full of explosives into a government building (essentially judge's opinion). Though metaphorically at least that's exactly what they did, which is why they still got pretty stiff sentences.
My biggest schadenfreude hope is that Pezzola yelling "Trump won!" after crying on the stand and claiming he was no longer political hurts all future Jan. 6 defendants going forward. Not to mention dickholes like Kyle Rittenhouse.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 7 September 2023 13:57 (seven months ago) link
― dell (del), Thursday, September 7, 2023 9:55 AM (two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
just smart enough to not be involved in crimes prob
― lag∞n, Thursday, 7 September 2023 13:58 (seven months ago) link
pretty demonic to rile up the rubes then sit back while theyre imprisoned
― lag∞n, Thursday, 7 September 2023 14:04 (seven months ago) link
but Trump did it, eating popcorn
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 7 September 2023 14:04 (seven months ago) link
Wild that Trump is going to cinch the gop nomination while his followers are getting this kind of prison time
― treeship., Thursday, 7 September 2023 14:10 (seven months ago) link
Cheesebro getting his arse handed to him by a judge who wasn't even born while he was graduating from Harvard - that seems quite funny.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 7 September 2023 14:13 (seven months ago) link
yea as lagoon mentions the half serious nature of all this makes it more bizarre than your typical political "activism". that AGNB/Channel 5 movie which prominently featured Tarrio didn't really paint them so much as right-wing activists as it did trolls looking for attention and trying to sell T-shirts. kinda like how the purpose of Infowars is mostly to sell vitamin supplements when you really break it down.
could be a cover obviously but Tarrio def strikes me as the kind of guy whose ideal career path pre-Trump might've been something like parlaying an appearance on Jersey Shore into an ugly overpriced clothing brand marketed towards "alpha males"
― frogbs, Thursday, 7 September 2023 14:13 (seven months ago) link
tarrio wont do 9-11
― close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Thursday, 7 September 2023 14:37 (seven months ago) link
Tarrio also did federal time for Medicare fraud (resale of diabetic test strips) a decade ago. The guy's worse than a grifter.
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 7 September 2023 14:40 (seven months ago) link
trump obviously also said a bunch of encouraging, vague crap but there's no direct link to the idiots who were there, other than speaking to some of them down the road
if he'd actually said to do specific things then maybe they would have! we'll never know. he should be in prison, too
― mh, Thursday, 7 September 2023 14:43 (seven months ago) link
xp yeah, Tarrio also admitted in interviews he had other t-shirt brands selling pro-Biden merch. whether true or not, I have no idea. just an opportunistic asshole
Yeah, there was a lot of that dynamic on view in that HBO (or uh, "MAX"?) QAnon documentary from a couple years ago, where you could see people and groups obviously pushing sinister ideas that were potentially really fucked-up and dangerous, but meanwhile their presentation was at times so trolly or even kitschy that it was occasionally hard to see them as anything beyond journeyman grifters angling for money and attention and who just happened upon MAGA or that particular segment of the culture wars as being fertile ground for their dopey schemes. That said, some of those same people did end up being prosecuted for Jan 6 stuff, so...
― dell (del), Thursday, 7 September 2023 14:45 (seven months ago) link
if you spend any time looking at right wing media, especially comment threads or call-in shows, the calls for violence are so common that it's probably hard to suss out who is talking shit and who is serious
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Thursday, 7 September 2023 14:47 (seven months ago) link
I mean, we have this historical stereotype (or at least history classes and documentaries have conveyed to me) that revolutionaries and violent political actors are these ideological die-hards but the reality is that many of them are shmucks who love the opportunity to get rowdy with their peers, or are really into a stance that they might completely flip on given a change in circumstance. And some are just outright opportunists.
― mh, Thursday, 7 September 2023 14:51 (seven months ago) link
And some of them are simply stupid and gullible, their brains atrophied by "doing their own research" online 24/7.
― Large, Complex, Detailed but Irrefutable POST (Dan Peterson), Thursday, 7 September 2023 15:15 (seven months ago) link
Before trial, USA offered Proud Boys plea deals, revealed yesterday. They passed. Result: Offer | Sentence after trialTarrio 9-11 yrs| 22 yrsNordean 6-8 yrs | 18 yrsBiggs 6-8 yrs | 17 yrsRehl 6-7 yrs | 15 yrsPezzola 4-5 yrs | 10 yrs/1 pic.twitter.com/OGf0CdRipr— Roger Parloff (@rparloff) September 7, 2023― brownie, Thursday, September 7, 2023 8:47 AM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
REAL MEN OF GENIUS
― The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 7 September 2023 15:16 (seven months ago) link
The creeps getting jailed for calling government officials/offices with threats of violence are thankfully getting taken out of the "will they or won't they commit violence" pool.
― deep wubs and tribral rhythms (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 7 September 2023 15:28 (seven months ago) link
In earlier times, these people would have been cast out of the tribe and left to fend for themselves.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 7 September 2023 15:29 (seven months ago) link
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 7 September 2023 15:33 (seven months ago) link
― mh, Thursday, September 7, 2023 10:43 AM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
idk im curious to see what the prosecutors have
― lag∞n, Thursday, 7 September 2023 16:07 (seven months ago) link
Like all long-lived Mafia bosses, Trump manages to insulate himself from direct involvement. I think he's fucked on the documents and Georgia cases, though.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 7 September 2023 16:10 (seven months ago) link
The Jan. 6 Committee made the case that by sitting and watching the rioters on tv and not saying anything for hours Trump was tacitly showing his support for the coup. Which is true, but probably hard to prosecute.
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Thursday, 7 September 2023 16:13 (seven months ago) link
he thinks he is protected by the presidential records act on the documents case, but legal people are saying he obviously hasn't read it!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 7 September 2023 16:13 (seven months ago) link
he thinks he is protected by the presidential records act on the documents case, but legal people are saying he obviously hasn't read it anything ever
― fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Thursday, 7 September 2023 16:19 (seven months ago) link
xps yah fair
everything revealed about what Trump was up to so far has been from self-serving dorks like Mark Meadows who were hemming and hawing as he kept making ridiculous requests and they supposedly just ignored him
― mh, Thursday, 7 September 2023 16:41 (seven months ago) link
hes not being charged with conspiracy in the federal case re jan 6 so it doesnt matter but for a normal person it doesnt take much to get included in one
― lag∞n, Thursday, 7 September 2023 17:18 (seven months ago) link
like he doesnt have to talk to the proud boys but if roger stone did and then he talked to roger stone
― lag∞n, Thursday, 7 September 2023 17:19 (seven months ago) link
Outside jury nullification, he is dead to rights on the documents case.
― il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Thursday, 7 September 2023 17:55 (seven months ago) link
"So you're telling me there's a chance ... "
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 7 September 2023 17:57 (seven months ago) link
Fani Willis pretty much immolates Gym Jordan for attempting to meddle in her casehttps://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/23941366/jim-jordan-letter.pdf
― honey badger drinks when he wants (stevie), Thursday, 7 September 2023 18:03 (seven months ago) link
There's no realistic doubt that Trump asked for and was presented with a wide variety of ideas for stealing the election, that he approved of them, and directed people like Meadows, Eastman and Giuliani to actively pursue them. He did his share by loudly and openly claiming he won and that any evidence Biden won was based in voter fraud. He was well aware of the Proud Boys, Three-Percenters, Oathkeepers and QAnon because he was thoroughly briefed about them. His long term history shows how well he understands the use of threats, intimidation and violence as a tool for getting what he wants.
But mainly there's no doubt because he did it all in the open! It was reported in the news on a daily basis all through the months just before the election right up to January 6th, 2021.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 7 September 2023 18:26 (seven months ago) link
For a more thorough understanding of Georgia’s RICO statute, its application and similar laws inother states, I encourage you to read “RICO State-by-State.” As a non-member of the bar, you canpurchase a copy for two hundred forty-nine dollars [$249].
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 7 September 2023 18:27 (seven months ago) link
Oooo! Stevie, that letter is dynamite! Thanks for linking it.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 7 September 2023 18:28 (seven months ago) link
"Here is another reality you must ‘face: Those who wish to avoid (felony charges in Fulton County, Georgia — including violations of Georgia RICO law — should not commit ‘felonies in Fulton County, Georgia. "
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― Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Thursday, 7 September 2023 18:30 (seven months ago) link
God lord, Willis utterly clowned Jordan with that letter
― Western® with Bacon Flavor, Thursday, 7 September 2023 18:42 (seven months ago) link
If Jordan could read, he'd be so mad.
― read-only (unperson), Thursday, 7 September 2023 18:44 (seven months ago) link
That letter is going to make him redouble his efforts to do nothing.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 7 September 2023 18:57 (seven months ago) link
Shots fucking fired. Thank you, DA Willis.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 7 September 2023 19:36 (seven months ago) link
Your letter makes clear that you lack a basic understanding of the law, its practice, and the ethical obligations of attorneys generally and prosecutors specifically.
Chef's kiss
― Large, Complex, Detailed but Irrefutable POST (Dan Peterson), Thursday, 7 September 2023 19:37 (seven months ago) link
My favorite bit: "Chairman Jordan, I tell people often “deal with reality or reality will deal with you.” It is time that you deal with some basic realities. A Special Purpose Grand Jury made up of everyday citizens investigated for 10 months and made recommendations to me. A further reality is that a grand jury of completely different Fulton County citizens found probable cause against the defendants named in the indictment for RICO violations and various other felonies. Face this reality, Chairman Jordan: the select group of defendants who you fret over in my jurisdiction are like every other defendant, entitled 10 no worse or better treatment than any other American citizen."
― bookmarkflaglink (Darin), Thursday, 7 September 2023 19:47 (seven months ago) link
My favorite part of the letter might be its final pages and comments, which a header stresses were voluntary. Which is to say, she could have ignored his intrusion, or she could have just answered his questions, but she instead chose to go out of her way just to dunk on him some more.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 7 September 2023 20:00 (seven months ago) link
My fear right now is that the Cop City RICO case is going to get challenged by the ACLU and others, quickly escalated to the US Supreme Court, and the conservative justices do a little about-face and invalidate the Georgia RICO statues on that one to look like they're not meddling in the election one.
― mh, Thursday, 7 September 2023 20:29 (seven months ago) link
(the cop city rico case is absolutely not valid )
― mh, Thursday, 7 September 2023 20:30 (seven months ago) link
Cop City Rico is a terrible name for the 51st state
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Thursday, 7 September 2023 20:47 (seven months ago) link
It has my vote in the 6th generation console video game poll
― fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Thursday, 7 September 2023 20:51 (seven months ago) link
I think using RICO statutes for an semi-organized group of protestors will not hold up in court at all... there's thing whole thing in the Constitution about 'redress of grievances' that covers protestors. They can be charged with trespassing, vandalism, etc., but that's not what RICO was set up for
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 7 September 2023 20:56 (seven months ago) link
As opposed to, say, an organized crime conspiracy.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 7 September 2023 20:58 (seven months ago) link
its mostly harassment, the cop mind at work
― lag∞n, Thursday, 7 September 2023 21:09 (seven months ago) link
something to think about when youre considering jerking off over a memo from a judge
― lag∞n, Thursday, 7 September 2023 21:10 (seven months ago) link
she instead chose to go out of her way just to dunk on him some more.
I'm guessing Willis didn't feel like it was going out of her way and was happy to do it. Every sentient human being who's not a MAGA moron wants to kick Jim Jordan in the nuts.
― Large, Complex, Detailed but Irrefutable POST (Dan Peterson), Thursday, 7 September 2023 21:26 (seven months ago) link
Jordan should be dunked on with a vat of acid in a bath tub until there is no trace of him ever existing
― Make the chats AI (Neanderthal), Thursday, 7 September 2023 21:50 (seven months ago) link
...only after we've all kicked him in the nuts.
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 7 September 2023 21:52 (seven months ago) link
Whenever I hear of Cop City I think of Tim Machine
― deep wubs and tribral rhythms (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 7 September 2023 22:50 (seven months ago) link
Tin. Tim Machine is my porn name
― deep wubs and tribral rhythms (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 7 September 2023 22:52 (seven months ago) link
MAGA nuts: States' rights!MAGA nuts: No, not like that!
― felicity, Friday, 8 September 2023 01:05 (seven months ago) link
Tim Machine is perfectly acceptable: are "tim machine" the best thing david bowie ?
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 8 September 2023 01:40 (seven months ago) link
Georgia special grand jury had recommended charges against Lindsey Graham, David Perdue, Kelly Loeffler. They weren’t charged. https://t.co/G0siQlwbhN pic.twitter.com/5yS8rPV4id— Manu Raju (@mkraju) September 8, 2023
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 8 September 2023 15:16 (seven months ago) link
next time
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 8 September 2023 15:56 (seven months ago) link
Graham should be convicted of assholism, Divine style.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEFKH9KzJEE
― Large, Complex, Detailed but Irrefutable POST (Dan Peterson), Friday, 8 September 2023 17:27 (seven months ago) link
this whole thread, pillow man mad
I keep tabs on a lot of the lawsuits filed after the 2020 election. Yesterday, I noticed a new filing in former Dominion exec Eric Coomer's defamation suit against MyPillow CEO Mike Lindell.Coomer filed a motion for sanctions against Lindell, because Lindell has been… pic.twitter.com/N80tzSlmPB— Chris Dehghanpoor • chrisd9r.bsky.social (@chrisd9r) September 8, 2023
― lag∞n, Friday, 8 September 2023 18:25 (seven months ago) link
I kept on scrolling and scrolling and my eyes got wider and wider
― fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Friday, 8 September 2023 18:27 (seven months ago) link
the way the lawyer is antagonizing him is so good, perfect comedy routine
― lag∞n, Friday, 8 September 2023 18:29 (seven months ago) link
Starting off warning a former coke addict "I talk slow" is a nice, underrated touch
― fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Friday, 8 September 2023 18:33 (seven months ago) link
lmao hes got him all messed up
― lag∞n, Friday, 8 September 2023 18:36 (seven months ago) link
Fidgety fucker, ain't he
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 8 September 2023 18:38 (seven months ago) link
Maybe he needs a nap. I know where he can get a pillow
― Pontius Pilates (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 8 September 2023 18:39 (seven months ago) link
Someone should smother him with one of his pillows.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 8 September 2023 18:40 (seven months ago) link
― fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Friday, September 8, 2023 1:33 PM (seven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
Are we absolutely 100% sure about the 'former'
― Prop Dramedy (Old Lunch), Friday, 8 September 2023 18:41 (seven months ago) link
hot tub tim machine
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Friday, 8 September 2023 18:42 (seven months ago) link
the Better Business Bureau is not an especially powerful entity, but I remember a few years back they ruled against him... He would say "if you call this minute, you'll get a SECOND pillow for free!" but the BBB said it's not really a 'special deal' if it's always the same deal, every day
Echoes of what was in store for him
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 8 September 2023 18:43 (seven months ago) link
the bit where the lawyer hypothesizes (?) that people might call the company about a lumpy pillow followed by Mike being insanely offended by the implication his pillows are lumpy might be the funniest
there are two things you can't joke about: Trump's net worth and whether the pillow man sent you a lumpy pillow
― mh, Friday, 8 September 2023 18:51 (seven months ago) link
I'll defend him on that. the man really does care about those pillows which is more than Trump's ever cared about anything
― frogbs, Friday, 8 September 2023 18:53 (seven months ago) link
Hey now, Trump cares very, very deeply about Trump.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 8 September 2023 18:54 (seven months ago) link
Some delightful pull quotes in those deposition videos.
'How DARE him come and sue My Pillow. He's a scumbag for doing that. Put that in there. Scumbag: S-kee-U-M bag.'
― Prop Dramedy (Old Lunch), Friday, 8 September 2023 18:57 (seven months ago) link
"I don't think you understand how you're perceived" is saying a lot when juxtaposed with all the protestations about how employees are suffering, his product is good, etc.
you're the one who decided to junk your own company by tying your personal brand to both the product and these spurious political claims, man
― mh, Friday, 8 September 2023 19:00 (seven months ago) link
..and Lindell is still tweeting on his own account about election machines and fraud
― mh, Friday, 8 September 2023 19:04 (seven months ago) link
being his lawyer must be awesome
― mookieproof, Friday, 8 September 2023 19:06 (seven months ago) link
Martin McDonagh's MyPillowman
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 8 September 2023 19:14 (seven months ago) link
other thing that stick with me about the Lindell videos posted is that the questioning lawyer mentions multiple times that Lindell isn't answering the questions, they'll keep doing depositions until the questions are answered, and if he loses then the lawyer fees are going to come out of the settlement
keep talking about nonsense, buddy. you're going to be paying me to do this
― ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Friday, 8 September 2023 20:25 (seven months ago) link
Fun Fact: Lindell's company name was actually inspired by all the times he tried to steal medication from the pharmacy and was immediately tackled by security
― But his face would not turn into hot Kirby (Evan), Friday, 8 September 2023 20:38 (seven months ago) link
Lumpen pillowtariat
― Pontius Pilates (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 8 September 2023 20:42 (seven months ago) link
Thanks, Dad.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 8 September 2023 20:43 (seven months ago) link
there was some strong Gil Gunderson desperation from Navarro while he was getting heckled. Lol, funny guy - he talked himself into a custodial prison sentence.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 9 September 2023 07:46 (seven months ago) link
Here we go, interview with the author of that Vince McMahon book:
https://popular.info/p/the-key-to-understanding-donald-trumps
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 11 September 2023 13:38 (seven months ago) link
"Yeah, I don't approve of all of his methods or the things he says, but he's cool, and he gets the job done."Last bit is really "he's fun(ny), and my personal situation did not worsen under him"
― nashwan, Monday, 11 September 2023 13:47 (seven months ago) link
All of those insights are OTM and I've been trying to convey similar points to say, my parents, when they get all wrapped up and baffled by the mindset of Trump supporters (usually in relation to the latest daily "scandal" or SCANDAL).
― But his face would not turn into hot Kirby (Evan), Monday, 11 September 2023 13:58 (seven months ago) link
Last bit is really "he's fun(ny), and my personal situation did not worsen under him"
Except for a lot of them their personal situation did worsen, but they just don't care. I remember earlier this year seeing social media posts and even people talking irl about "those great gas prices three years ago" and I'm like, "Do you remember why those prices were so low? You couldn't even drive down the block to get a hamburger!" (Except I don't really say this out loud because I don't wanna engage with these idiots)
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 11 September 2023 14:56 (seven months ago) link
Also you would never get anywhere trying to convince them to agree with you're understanding of the cause / effect and who is responsible and why and that anything was even happening or what is real etc. It's a bottomless pit full of plummeting goal posts. They would begin their productive journey with you by disputing their personal ability to get a hamburger at any given point.
― Evan, Monday, 11 September 2023 15:01 (seven months ago) link
your*
― But his face would not turn into hot Kirby (Evan)
Adam Serwer said it best: the cruelty is the point. Dat's dat.
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 11 September 2023 15:03 (seven months ago) link
yeah the reward of trumpsim is more psychosocial than material, but better than nothing i guess
― lag∞n, Monday, 11 September 2023 15:10 (seven months ago) link
ironically the place where trumpists paid the biggest price was one where trump actually differed from them, covid
― lag∞n, Monday, 11 September 2023 15:11 (seven months ago) link
shd be noted i guess that trump did promise material and status gains in make america great again but did not deliver
― lag∞n, Monday, 11 September 2023 15:13 (seven months ago) link
feel like "sensationalism by any means" is more applicable to all related situations/stunts/persona than "cruelty", though I am not disputing the word in any other sense
― Evan, Monday, 11 September 2023 15:14 (seven months ago) link
yeah cruelty is only part of the mix, desantis is a good example of when you just do the cruelty
― lag∞n, Monday, 11 September 2023 15:17 (seven months ago) link
― lag∞n, Monday, September 11, 2023 11:13 AM (forty-four seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink
Oh but ask a supporter and they'll gladly provide a list or tell you what could have happened if it weren't for all that relentless lib opposition, but that goes without saying
― Evan, Monday, 11 September 2023 15:17 (seven months ago) link
you gotta win thats the point baby, which is something the dem party doesnt understand too well either lol
― lag∞n, Monday, 11 September 2023 15:18 (seven months ago) link
he delivered for billionaires
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Monday, 11 September 2023 15:19 (seven months ago) link
fundamental to the Trump cult (and most other fascist regimes) is that Trump tried to provide material gains but was thwarted by the internal enemies/deep state.
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Monday, 11 September 2023 15:19 (seven months ago) link
yeah idk if it can be overstated how little people actually connect actual government action to the material conditions in their own lives other than services and prices being bad when they need things. like there's probably a shitload of boomers who have no need to move who have no idea mortgage rates are high. probably noticing that car loan rates are high, though
― ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Monday, 11 September 2023 15:20 (seven months ago) link
weird how american politics have become totally devoid of material analysis wonder how that happened haha
― lag∞n, Monday, 11 September 2023 15:21 (seven months ago) link
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Monday, September 11, 2023 11:19 AM (two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
everyone seems to be able to deliver for the billionaires, weird to think about
the more money you have the more time you have to worry about what your money's doing. not a great state of affairs
― ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Monday, 11 September 2023 15:25 (seven months ago) link
― lag∞n, Monday, September 11, 2023 4:21 PM (four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
capital volume 1
― ꙮ (map), Monday, 11 September 2023 15:31 (seven months ago) link
mods!
― lag∞n, Monday, 11 September 2023 15:32 (seven months ago) link
So Chuck Todd finally fucks off as host of Meet the Press, and Kristin Welker, a somewhat respectable for-real journalist, takes over, and her first episode is an interview with this sack of shit? (Which I have not watched, and will not be watching.) I mean, I can't think of a better way to squander whatever good will people might have had for her on Day One. Jesus fuck.
― read-only (unperson), Sunday, 17 September 2023 16:14 (seven months ago) link
She's a parody of every idiot reporter who asked Trump golly-gee questions in 2016,
― hat trick of trashiness (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 17 September 2023 16:17 (seven months ago) link
The desire on the part of all these media conglomerates to fuck over the majority of their audience to court the diminishing demographic of Trump lovers, who have been bred to hate "MSM" on-sight regardless of how respectfully they treat that orange piece of shit, is genuinely baffling to me.
― Lumpy pillows, kiss my ass. Put that in your book (stevie), Sunday, 17 September 2023 21:45 (seven months ago) link
Like, for eg, surely the NYT's natural constituency isn't craving hagiographical treatment for Trump? While alienate them to win over an audience that is not win-overable?
― Lumpy pillows, kiss my ass. Put that in your book (stevie), Sunday, 17 September 2023 21:46 (seven months ago) link
so did he really say the whole idea to overturn the election was his in this interview? Is that like...a wise thing to say if you are facing charges for doing exactly this? because it doesn't seem like a very wise thing to say.
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Sunday, 17 September 2023 23:20 (seven months ago) link
I saw that and the he admit it man burst thru my window
― Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Monday, 18 September 2023 00:01 (seven months ago) link
could see trump talking about they need to make a steering wheel that doesnt fly off your hand while driving
― lag∞n, Monday, 18 September 2023 00:31 (seven months ago) link
I should stop being surprised by shit like MTP pulled at this point. It's clear that every arm of the American media landscape - left, right and purported center - is practically frothing at the mouth to keep Trump in the narrative as long as possible, because clicks and eyeballs.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 18 September 2023 14:41 (seven months ago) link
It's like it's 1994 and everybody can interview O.J. Simpson whenever they want
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Monday, 18 September 2023 14:44 (seven months ago) link
its wild how the conservative strategy is just whining about everything and never being appeased no matter how much everyone bends over backwards for you just seems to always work with these morons
― frogbs, Monday, 18 September 2023 14:47 (seven months ago) link
The basic appeal is to white grievance, which is perpetual, and therefore the strategy is also.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 18 September 2023 14:49 (seven months ago) link
republicans go were the mad ones, democrats go were the reasonable ones, then theres some voting
― lag∞n, Monday, 18 September 2023 15:18 (seven months ago) link
…pokemon go were the polls?
― vashti funyuns (sic), Monday, 18 September 2023 15:22 (seven months ago) link
Pikachu was on the Epstein logs
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Monday, 18 September 2023 15:24 (seven months ago) link
pika
― lag∞n, Monday, 18 September 2023 16:03 (seven months ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/6DgKMjd.jpg
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 20 September 2023 12:47 (seven months ago) link
rip big man
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 20 September 2023 12:51 (seven months ago) link
if that's what I think it is I love it!
― henry s, Wednesday, 20 September 2023 13:04 (seven months ago) link
"Here's your Quarter Pounder, dad."
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 20 September 2023 13:57 (seven months ago) link
He just died? Wow. I didn't know that. He led an amazing life.
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Wednesday, 20 September 2023 13:59 (seven months ago) link
Sometimes dead is better.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 20 September 2023 14:07 (seven months ago) link
RIP as in absolutely do not come back as a zombie
― the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 20 September 2023 14:09 (seven months ago) link
Rest in Fece
― Make the chats AI (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 20 September 2023 14:12 (seven months ago) link
what would be the funniest way for trump to die?
― the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 20 September 2023 14:20 (seven months ago) link
choking on mcdonalds
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 20 September 2023 14:21 (seven months ago) link
slipping on Giuliani's hair drips
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Wednesday, 20 September 2023 14:23 (seven months ago) link
Shits himself to death on stage at a rally
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 20 September 2023 14:25 (seven months ago) link
Expires while sitting on his golden toilet, a la Elvis, with a half finished post to "Truth Social," full of misspellings, on his phone.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 20 September 2023 14:31 (seven months ago) link
ripped apart by bald eagles
― the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 20 September 2023 14:32 (seven months ago) link
Is in a tank making the vroom vroom sound, tries to sound airhorn, accidentally shoots own tank
― Make the chats AI (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 20 September 2023 14:33 (seven months ago) link
Suffers a massive coronary while naked, on all fours, being spanked with a rolled up copy of the National Review by Marjorie Taylor Greene, who is dressed up as Miss Piggie.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 20 September 2023 14:34 (seven months ago) link
icepicked by a devout MAGA who's convinced the real DJT is a planted body double
― I Wanna Find an ILXor That'll Flag My Last Post Till I Have To Go (WmC), Wednesday, 20 September 2023 14:48 (seven months ago) link
Shot on stage at a rally by DJT Jr.
― il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Wednesday, 20 September 2023 14:51 (seven months ago) link
hangs self in the same cell Epstein died in
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Wednesday, 20 September 2023 14:53 (seven months ago) link
Strangles to death after his necktie gets entangled at the base of the Trump Tower escalator
(as happened to a character in "The World According To Garp")
― Hongro Hongro Hippies (Myonga Vön Bontee), Wednesday, 20 September 2023 14:53 (seven months ago) link
Wow, can't believe he's gone. Today is the day Donald Trump became president.
― Chyiv Kyiv (Fetchboy), Wednesday, 20 September 2023 14:57 (seven months ago) link
dying of COVID would've been the perfect end but nooooo we had to be denied that
― frogbs, Wednesday, 20 September 2023 14:59 (seven months ago) link
if only he'd have gotten it before everybody had figured out the right monoclonal antibody cocktails.
― Make the chats AI (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 20 September 2023 15:00 (seven months ago) link
Shit on on stage at a rally by DJT Jr.
― Lumpy pillows, kiss my ass. Put that in your book (stevie), Wednesday, 20 September 2023 15:08 (seven months ago) link
Dies in prison
a million times this
― frogbs, Wednesday, September 20, 2023
That Friday when the news broke was the happiest day of my miserable 2020.
― hat trick of trashiness (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 20 September 2023 15:10 (seven months ago) link
Choking on Putin's dick while seeking asylum in Russia.
― BrianB, Wednesday, 20 September 2023 15:30 (seven months ago) link
I'm gonna go with my first Midjourney prompt as a way for him to die: Donald Trump drowning in Cheetos
― underminer of twenty years of excellent contribution to this borad (dan m), Wednesday, 20 September 2023 15:34 (seven months ago) link
xpost Second best Primitive Radio Gods single
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 20 September 2023 15:40 (seven months ago) link
I will say though had he died in 2020 of COVID we wouldn't have gotten to see him charged with 100 felonies
― frogbs, Wednesday, 20 September 2023 15:44 (seven months ago) link
Y'all are crazy, he did die of covid, it's been a body double ever since, just like Fetterman.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 20 September 2023 15:45 (seven months ago) link
Falls into sinkhole outside Mar A Lago caused by the scale of his motorcade, stuck there a while then drowns from resulting burst sewage pipe.
― nashwan, Wednesday, 20 September 2023 15:50 (seven months ago) link
while being sworn for testimony, in the dock, at his own insistence contrary to the advices of his (forever unpaid) counsel
― you need magical thinking ay my name is david blaine (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 20 September 2023 16:05 (seven months ago) link
and before fani willis. with melania laughing in courtroom.
dying of COVID would've been the perfect end but nooooo we had to be denied that― frogbs, Wednesday, September 20, 2023
Alternately, dying after self-ingestion of bleach as treatment would be even sweeter
― Hongro Hongro Hippies (Myonga Vön Bontee), Wednesday, 20 September 2023 16:21 (seven months ago) link
Question for woman at Trump speech in Iowa today - How did Trump’s policies benefitted your life?A - Ahhhhhhhhh. I need the government to pay for my back surgery and I’m hoping Trump can help me out. pic.twitter.com/rEjrcytjGz— Ron Filipkowski (@RonFilipkowski) September 20, 2023
― hat trick of trashiness (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 20 September 2023 16:55 (seven months ago) link
"I'm hoping President Trump can lend me $100,000."
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 20 September 2023 17:04 (seven months ago) link
if you want that money to pay for your back surgery, become a televangelist like every other good Christian did
― Make the chats AI (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 20 September 2023 17:39 (seven months ago) link
Maybe she should just have Trump personally perform the surgery.
― il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Wednesday, 20 September 2023 17:54 (seven months ago) link
― deep wubs and tribral rhythms (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 20 September 2023 17:55 (seven months ago) link
"I've studied the back more than anyone." xp
― Large, Complex, Detailed but Irrefutable POST (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 20 September 2023 17:56 (seven months ago) link
“I’m hoping that failing that, Dr. Trump could perform my back surgery as part of a pay-per view event”
― The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 20 September 2023 18:18 (seven months ago) link
Dr Don Riviera
― Road House: Songs and Stories (Master of Treacle), Wednesday, 20 September 2023 18:22 (seven months ago) link
"She said, 'Sir, thank you for making me the most beautiful spines anyone ever had.'"
― il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Wednesday, 20 September 2023 18:35 (seven months ago) link
Guess whose back
― the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 20 September 2023 18:49 (seven months ago) link
When you're a chiropractor they let you do it
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 20 September 2023 18:50 (seven months ago) link
xp: genuine lol
― the new drip king (DJP), Wednesday, 20 September 2023 19:11 (seven months ago) link
The Judge today, reportedly, in the NY inflated real estate fraud case:
Engoron literally pounds the bench as he articulates this principle: “You cannot make false statements and use them in business.”
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 22 September 2023 19:00 (six months ago) link
gonna be interesting to see what happens as these trials progress and trump ramps up his threats against witnesses
One question I have about Trump’s overnight attack on Milley: Is he on the government’s witness list for Trump’s DC trial? He was a key Jan. 6 committee witness who said Trump privately admitted losing the election. pic.twitter.com/cwnYnxBGOA— Kyle Cheney (@kyledcheney) September 23, 2023
― lag∞n, Saturday, 23 September 2023 14:39 (six months ago) link
there was some discussion on one of those threads as to whether or not he was actually a witness. dumbass kind of confirmed it.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 23 September 2023 15:38 (six months ago) link
what happened with the request for a gag order or was that for another case, I can't even keep track now
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Saturday, 23 September 2023 15:45 (six months ago) link
Hard to gag a black hole.
― il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Saturday, 23 September 2023 16:15 (six months ago) link
I keep taking in information here, like that one of his incompetent joke lawyers fucked up the paperwork and now he won't get a jury trial and then I forget which of the cases it happened in.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 23 September 2023 16:20 (six months ago) link
To be (temporarily) fair to his lawyers, it's really hard to adequately represent someone who you know is not ever going to pay you.
I am not a lawyer but I can't imagine putting much effort in for a client who has a reputation for not paying.
― Hereward the Woke (Ye Mad Puffin), Saturday, 23 September 2023 16:31 (six months ago) link
no they always paid, after they've had to resort to sewing him for the money!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 23 September 2023 16:34 (six months ago) link
*get*
A client who doesn't pay, doesn't take your advice and ruins your professional reputation and/or puts your license in jeopardy? Sign me up!
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Saturday, 23 September 2023 16:35 (six months ago) link
you can become the next Michael Cohen
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 23 September 2023 16:37 (six months ago) link
A lawyer has to eat, but it's very hard to have any sympathy for the long suffering ones that represent Trump. I imagine they must have book deals on their mind or something because it must be a nightmare.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 23 September 2023 16:48 (six months ago) link
great gig when you're in need of a financial boost, represent the guy who is known for not paying people
― Make the chats AI (Neanderthal), Saturday, 23 September 2023 16:51 (six months ago) link
err guys it’s called pro bono?
― assert (matttkkkk), Saturday, 23 September 2023 18:53 (six months ago) link
Let’s leave U2 out of this mess
― the new drip king (DJP), Saturday, 23 September 2023 18:56 (six months ago) link
keep that shit to ilm
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 23 September 2023 18:56 (six months ago) link
Also Lol his lawyers aren't pro bono.
― Make the chats AI (Neanderthal), Saturday, 23 September 2023 18:58 (six months ago) link
He has an entire fund burning cash and getting close to insolvent just to pay his team of lawyers rn per latest news.
― Make the chats AI (Neanderthal), Saturday, 23 September 2023 18:59 (six months ago) link
i'm waiting for him to sell Trump Tower AND sell Barron and Melania to the Saudis to pay for his lawyers.
― scott seward, Saturday, 23 September 2023 19:03 (six months ago) link
he recalled $60m of super pac money because he's burning through that much, in the legal fees that he does actually pay [citation needed]
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 23 September 2023 19:03 (six months ago) link
Wouldn’t be surprised if there’s a lot of creative accounting there.
― deep wubs and tribral rhythms (Boring, Maryland), Sunday, 24 September 2023 04:34 (six months ago) link
In the civil fraud case his attitude still seems to be incredulity that he's in the shit for the type of overvaluation fraud he's probably been committing and getting away with for decades.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 24 September 2023 06:04 (six months ago) link
I'd imagine that type of real estate overvaluation is so common and probably just in general rarely prosecuted unless you have done something else to pi$$ off the man, get busted in taxes or the insurance industry in a claim.
― earlnash, Sunday, 24 September 2023 12:23 (six months ago) link
yeah or you settle get some fine and move on
― lag∞n, Sunday, 24 September 2023 13:57 (six months ago) link
The hilarious thing is that these rich creeps play it both ways, for their total value and for borrowing money etc. they want it overvalued but when it comes to paying taxes and it's assessment it's not worth sh!t. The streets should be painted in their blood really.
― earlnash, Sunday, 24 September 2023 14:03 (six months ago) link
I just love the fact that, because there's a form to these things that must apparently always be followed, the tweet includes "if the Fake News reporting is correct" - your position is that it isn't!
― Andrew Farrell, Sunday, 24 September 2023 14:37 (six months ago) link
Some folks are born silver spoon in handLord don't they help themselvesBut when the taxman come to the doorThe house looks like a rummage sale
― Hereward the Woke (Ye Mad Puffin), Sunday, 24 September 2023 15:23 (six months ago) link
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/troubles-biden-age-reelection-campaign-poll/story?id=103436611Trump 51Biden 42
― StanM, Sunday, 24 September 2023 20:46 (six months ago) link
“Among voters under age 35, Trump leads Biden in the new Post-ABC poll by 20 points” https://t.co/CTTCaM3bmt— Bill Scher (@billscher) September 24, 2023
Ok
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Sunday, 24 September 2023 20:55 (six months ago) link
Yeah, voters under 35 <with landlines>
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 24 September 2023 21:57 (six months ago) link
all five of em
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Sunday, 24 September 2023 22:26 (six months ago) link
Yeah, seriously, I know a lot of these stupid polls are intended to instill panic, but this one pretty much just earns giggles.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 24 September 2023 23:06 (six months ago) link
panic giggles is also a thing fwiw
― Hunt3r, Monday, 25 September 2023 01:47 (six months ago) link
I think polls are going to be pretty useless for the next year. Everybody ought to be acting like it's going to be a close election.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Monday, 25 September 2023 01:48 (six months ago) link
yea i'm curious if polls from this far out are actually predictive of anything
once election season actually starts the downsides of both candidates are gonna be talked about a ton and Trump not only has way way more his are also a lot more serious, also he has been acting like an absolute lunatic lately, think this'll once again be a referendum on if people really want more Trump in their lives
― frogbs, Monday, 25 September 2023 02:29 (six months ago) link
polls this far out usually give no more than a blurry picture of the mostly amorphous feelings of an electorate that's not particularly engaged. but in this case the odds of a rematch of 2020 are unusually high, so the trick right now is figuring out which polls to trust. sadly, that's nearly impossible. (shrugs)
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Monday, 25 September 2023 02:45 (six months ago) link
eh that's close enuf for me
― blurry picture of mostly amorphous feelings (Hunt3r), Monday, 25 September 2023 03:20 (six months ago) link
Complete outlier of a poll, not approximating any of the others in the last week.
Also some of this is Hunter Biden news influenced and will fade
― McNugget Aggressive Growth Fund (Neanderthal), Monday, 25 September 2023 07:01 (six months ago) link
the trick right now is figuring out which polls to trust
None of them. Not even the ones that tell you what you want to hear. It's all fiction.
― read-only (unperson), Monday, 25 September 2023 12:28 (six months ago) link
What are you talking about, they're totally rooted in data based on (checks notes) unverifiable opinions strangers report to the poll. In *this* house, we *believe* in science!
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 25 September 2023 13:26 (six months ago) link
I thought they were based on boat parades?
― henry s, Monday, 25 September 2023 13:34 (six months ago) link
Or general lack thereof?
― henry s, Monday, 25 September 2023 13:36 (six months ago) link
They take into account all sorts of data. Boat parades, those pain-level smiley faces, rolling D&D dice ...
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 25 September 2023 13:59 (six months ago) link
THE WINDMILLS ARE DRIVING THE WHALES BATTY.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 26 September 2023 12:31 (six months ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4DLzpB8e84
― scott seward, Tuesday, 26 September 2023 12:43 (six months ago) link
I think we have underestimated the comedic genius of Donald Trump.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 26 September 2023 13:00 (six months ago) link
Trump's beef with windmills is personal:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_International_Golf_Club_Scotland_Ltd_v_The_Scottish_Ministers
― c u (crüt), Tuesday, 26 September 2023 13:08 (six months ago) link
Of course. For him, everything is about his personal grudges.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 26 September 2023 13:11 (six months ago) link
at the the Trump rallies, in between rants about ripping up the constitution and destroying the free press and executing generals etc... He keeps telling his followers that the deep state is coming for them. But luckily he's the human shield protecting them! I don't why I find that so funny, but there is just something so ridiculous and unreal about the whole spectacle that cracks me up.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 26 September 2023 13:32 (six months ago) link
It's of a piece with his saying in 2016 that "I alone can fix it." He is playing into his followers' need for a savior, and I think on some level he really believes he is some kind of superhero.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 26 September 2023 13:48 (six months ago) link
it's a handy way for him to deflect all the ongoing legal cases against him
― c u (crüt), Tuesday, 26 September 2023 13:57 (six months ago) link
Muad'Dumb.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 26 September 2023 13:59 (six months ago) link
one of his former staffers, who I think has flipped, has said he used classified documents as post-it notes. He was writing to-do lists on the other side of them! I don't think anyone in his position would do something so dumb out of carelessness. I think that was his way of demonstrating to staff that he's a real president and he can do what he likes with classified docs. Because that is the kind of prick he is.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 26 September 2023 14:20 (six months ago) link
Q: What do you despise? By this are you truly known.
DT: Windmills
― underminer of twenty years of excellent contribution to this borad (dan m), Tuesday, 26 September 2023 14:37 (six months ago) link
donkey hotelier
― Chyiv Kyiv (Fetchboy), Tuesday, 26 September 2023 15:01 (six months ago) link
I saw some clip of him posing with a gun dude and it was so creepy. He just repeatedly pops his gruesome smile as needed, giving the thumbs up, while the gun dude grins like a goon. And then as soon as the picture is taken goes back to his usual default frown.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 26 September 2023 15:30 (six months ago) link
The Trump supporter who posted the viral video of Donald insisting he wanted to buy a Glock – which legally could have gotten Donald in a lot of legal trouble – DELETED it.Too late. I already put it in the family archive. 🧵👇 pic.twitter.com/gN2buUVlLd— Mary L Trump (@MaryLTrump) September 25, 2023
Trump's beef with windmills is personal:
― c u (crüt), Tuesday, September 26, 2023 9:08 AM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
https://bpb-us-w2.wpmucdn.com/blogs.baylor.edu/dist/c/3127/files/2015/12/DQ-Screen-Shot-2015-12-04-at-4.10.29-PM-29wbxtz.png
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 26 September 2023 15:37 (six months ago) link
Well now we know what Q stands for
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Tuesday, 26 September 2023 15:40 (six months ago) link
lol they should incorporate that into their theory
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 26 September 2023 15:41 (six months ago) link
Curious what the Secret Service thinks about these dudes with their pistols waving around by the ex-prez
― Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 26 September 2023 16:21 (six months ago) link
They probably think, these are my people.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 26 September 2023 16:22 (six months ago) link
So if I just put on a vest and get a doofy Richard Spencer buzz cut, I can get right up next to him with a pistol?
Good to know
― Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 26 September 2023 16:27 (six months ago) link
― assert (matttkkkk), Tuesday, 26 September 2023 17:23 (six months ago) link
Add getting a glock and instantly dropping it and shooting himself in the dick and balls to funniest ways he could die
― Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Tuesday, 26 September 2023 17:42 (six months ago) link
You think Alec Baldwin does a good Trump impression? Wait till you see Trump's Baldwin impression.
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Tuesday, 26 September 2023 17:43 (six months ago) link
He should really buy an American-made pistol, but Trump has never shot a firearm in his life, so he can be forgiven for not knowing what a Colt is
― Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 26 September 2023 17:48 (six months ago) link
It's of a piece with his saying in 2016 that "I alone can fix it."
Worst Live cover ever
― papal hotwife (milo z), Tuesday, 26 September 2023 17:51 (six months ago) link
they could just photoshop him doing that goofy low thumbs-up into any stupid situation and I'd accept the photo as legit
― ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Tuesday, 26 September 2023 17:52 (six months ago) link
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 26 September 2023 18:16 (six months ago) link
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 26 September 2023 18:17 (six months ago) link
arms are too high, must be fake donald
― ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Tuesday, 26 September 2023 18:43 (six months ago) link
Well this is satisfying
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-fraud-ruling_n_65133e02e4b0b4348f453a3f?5ye
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 26 September 2023 20:33 (six months ago) link
A judge has ruled that Donald Trump committed fraud for years while building the real estate empire that catapulted him to fame and the White House.Judge Arthur Engoron, ruling Tuesday in a civil lawsuit brought by New York’s attorney general, found that the former president and his company deceived banks, insurers and others by massively overvaluing his assets and exaggerating his net worth on paperwork used in making deals and securing financing....Engoron’s ruling, in a phase of the case known as summary judgment, resolves the key claim in James’ lawsuit, but six others remain.Engoron is slated to hold a non-jury trial starting Oct. 2 before deciding on those claims and any punishments he may impose.
Judge Arthur Engoron, ruling Tuesday in a civil lawsuit brought by New York’s attorney general, found that the former president and his company deceived banks, insurers and others by massively overvaluing his assets and exaggerating his net worth on paperwork used in making deals and securing financing....
Engoron’s ruling, in a phase of the case known as summary judgment, resolves the key claim in James’ lawsuit, but six others remain.
Engoron is slated to hold a non-jury trial starting Oct. 2 before deciding on those claims and any punishments he may impose.
a stern warning and a middling fine
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Tuesday, 26 September 2023 20:35 (six months ago) link
Two whole bucks!
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 26 September 2023 20:35 (six months ago) link
IDK wasn't this the judge that was pounding the bench in rage the other day?
― Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 26 September 2023 20:38 (six months ago) link
Yeah. Iirc, this call for summary judgement came about because the fraud was so blatant the prosecution basically argued to the judge that a trial was irrelevant, since no one disagreed on the facts. Apparently (again, if I was reading correctly) this kind of ruling is relatively rare.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 26 September 2023 20:38 (six months ago) link
Pretty much. It's why they were desperately trying to get him thrown off the case too, I think they read the tea leaves.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 26 September 2023 20:39 (six months ago) link
Oh looks like Engoron sanctioned Trump's lawyers too!
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 26 September 2023 20:47 (six months ago) link
Wait, this judgement also orders the Trump Org and all its LLCs ... dissolved?
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 26 September 2023 20:51 (six months ago) link
engoron spengelerer
― come on barbo let’s go parpo (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 26 September 2023 20:53 (six months ago) link
hopefully dissolved in acid
― Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 26 September 2023 20:54 (six months ago) link
From MSN:
"The documents here clearly contain fraudulent valuations that defendants used in business," Engoron wrote in his ruling, in which he ordered the defendants' New York business certificates canceled. He ordered that within 10 days, they must recommend potential independent receivers to manage the dissolution of the canceled LLCs.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 26 September 2023 20:56 (six months ago) link
https://pbs.twimg.com/card_img/1706771714602934272/gLBplM2J?format=jpg&name=medium
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 26 September 2023 20:59 (six months ago) link
Same MSN story:
Engoron also ruled Tuesday on a separate motion by the New York attorney general seeking sanctions against Trump's legal team for repeatedly making arguments Engoron and other courts had already rejected. Engoron ruled in the attorney general's favor, fining five attorneys $7,500 each.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 26 September 2023 20:59 (six months ago) link
In addition to finding that Trump committed fraud, the judge canceled the certificates of various Trump businesses, appointed a former judge as an independent monitor of the Trump Organization, and will appoint receivers to manage the canceled LLCs.This is a pretty big deal. https://t.co/0Z4y3lkHTK— Renato Mariotti (@renato_mariotti) September 26, 2023
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 26 September 2023 21:18 (six months ago) link
Daaaaaaaaamn
― The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 26 September 2023 21:21 (six months ago) link
Should be noted that the summary finding of fraud extends to Donald Jr and Eric, too.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 26 September 2023 21:26 (six months ago) link
The deposition line quoted in the last sentence of this paragraph is pretty telling. https://t.co/bn4wuPb3eC pic.twitter.com/vQYWIreZYt— southpaw (@nycsouthpaw) September 26, 2023
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 26 September 2023 21:31 (six months ago) link
Oh man. The combination of off-the-charts levels of idiocy and chutzpah in that attempt at a defense there is just staggering, even for him
― dell (del), Tuesday, 26 September 2023 22:02 (six months ago) link
I can't stop re-reading that and giggling in sheer disbelief that anyone would say that to another human being to bolster their argument, let alone to a judge!
― dell (del), Tuesday, 26 September 2023 22:08 (six months ago) link
value is subjective and he's also said the Saudis would pay whatever fucking price he puts on his real estate portfolio... because it's me!!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 26 September 2023 22:21 (six months ago) link
They pass for access, I sell them access
― Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 26 September 2023 22:27 (six months ago) link
He could shoot a Saudi on Fifth Avenue and the Saudi would be honored and grateful
― The Royal House of Hangover (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 26 September 2023 23:05 (six months ago) link
I like the swearing:
Trump will visit a non-union auto shop tomorrow, a fact that was not lost on those outside the Wayne plant.
“That’s where his loyalties lie,” Walter Robinson, a 57-year-old quality inspector, said. “If he wants to be with working people who are struggling, then he would be here. I don’t know who he is playing for – is he playing for working people, or corporations?”
“He has to go to a non-union plant because if he came here, we wouldn’t let him in,” added Hearn. “If he pulled up in his motherfuckin’ motorcade right now, we would not let him in.”
― Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 26 September 2023 23:20 (six months ago) link
hell yes to all of this, the house of cards is starting to topple
― out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Tuesday, 26 September 2023 23:33 (six months ago) link
Apparently, and I am a little embarrassed not to have known this, but there have been large numbers of whales beaching themselves lately. A quick Google search turns up various incidents all over the world. There is speculation about the reason(s), including some kind of sonic activity in the water, but as far as I can tell it has fuck all to do with windmills.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 26 September 2023 23:49 (six months ago) link
It will be amusing to see what Trump comes up with to say to these non-union workers tomorrow. I assume it will be the usual rambling laundry list of grievances that has little to do with the auto industry.
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Wednesday, 27 September 2023 00:03 (six months ago) link
It will mostly be jokes where he says one name when he means another.
― The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 27 September 2023 00:16 (six months ago) link
i hope he gets to ride in a big truck again
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 27 September 2023 00:17 (six months ago) link
If only that Glock had gone off.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 27 September 2023 00:17 (six months ago) link
Apparently, and I am a little embarrassed not to have known this, but there have been large numbers of whales beaching themselves lately.
One of those lives in Mar-a-Lago.
― hat trick of trashiness (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 27 September 2023 00:31 (six months ago) link
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 27 September 2023 00:32 (six months ago) link
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F6-9AsIWgAAlZF3?format=jpg&name=large
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 27 September 2023 01:33 (six months ago) link
wow think of the property taxes
― ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Wednesday, 27 September 2023 01:58 (six months ago) link
C-Hutch is coming up on MSNBC with Dullard O'Flannel.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 27 September 2023 02:04 (six months ago) link
In her defense, she made an OK, well, defense in a clip I saw of her Maddow interview. She basically conceded she drank the Kool-aid in supporting Trump Inc., but pointed out that if she is dismissed and ridiculed after coming forward and admitting her mistakes, then no one is going to come forward. Though no doubt this is still just a preamble to the public speaking / talking head money train, like fellow mea culpa miner Miles Taylor.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 27 September 2023 02:22 (six months ago) link
are there any praqctical implications of this for the NYS real estate the trump org owns? e.g. are they forced to divest assets in NYS?
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 27 September 2023 02:29 (six months ago) link
praqctical
are there any praqctical implications
i can't imagine that forcing the Trump Organization or its subsidiary LLCs into receivership wouldn't entail divestiture of assets to non-Trump-managed entities. If he tries to recoup his properties via a dummy corporation I'd expect the independent receivers and the court would take a very dim view of the subterfuge.
btw, praqctical is my new favorite word
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 27 September 2023 02:48 (six months ago) link
Praqctice makes perfect
― The Royal House of Hangover (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 27 September 2023 02:53 (six months ago) link
i assumed he could just redomicile the company and continue owning NYS real estate but apparently not?
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/26/nyregion/trump-james-fraud-trial.html
The decision could terminate his control over a flagship commercial property at 40 Wall Street in Lower Manhattan and a family estate in Westchester County. Mr. Trump might also lose control over his other New York properties, including Trump Tower in Midtown Manhattan and his golf club in Westchester.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 27 September 2023 03:01 (six months ago) link
so his disgorgement fine is going to be at least $250m, lol this is going to be one almighty kick in the bollocks!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 27 September 2023 04:52 (six months ago) link
"I'm sending you to a jail that I'd say is valued at... 800 million dollars."
― StanM, Wednesday, 27 September 2023 06:20 (six months ago) link
5 of Trump's lawyers have been sanctioned by the judge and each got $7.5k fines for persisting with timewasting bad faith defense arguments that had already been dismissed by him.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 27 September 2023 06:39 (six months ago) link
So what happens when he doesn’t pay?
― Cow_Art, Wednesday, 27 September 2023 09:06 (six months ago) link
I assumed he could just redomicile the company and continue owning NYS real estate but apparently not?
Typically LLCs domesticated in another state are required to obtain a certificate of authority to do business in a non-domicile state if they have a sufficient nexus with the non-domicile state. What is sufficient for nexus with a non-domicile state varies slightly from state to state, but typically ownership of property is sufficient for nexus.
― il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Wednesday, 27 September 2023 11:17 (six months ago) link
Having employees located in a non-domicile state is also a common way nexus is created.
― il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Wednesday, 27 September 2023 11:19 (six months ago) link
he will appeal until long after his own death. barron will be appealing this case as an old man.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 27 September 2023 12:35 (six months ago) link
Barron still has time to perfect his scowl.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 27 September 2023 12:59 (six months ago) link
https://townsquare.media/site/34/files/2022/06/attachment-Screen-Shot-2022-06-20-at-8.02.48-AM.jpg
― scott seward, Wednesday, 27 September 2023 13:10 (six months ago) link
What a little darling!
― hat trick of trashiness (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 27 September 2023 13:15 (six months ago) link
Who's the tall guy on the right?
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 27 September 2023 13:16 (six months ago) link
EW! Is that really him?
― Cow_Art, Wednesday, 27 September 2023 13:20 (six months ago) link
You can't escape your genes.
― Lumpy pillows, kiss my ass. Put that in your book (stevie), Wednesday, 27 September 2023 13:23 (six months ago) link
probably has the clap already
― hat trick of trashiness (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 27 September 2023 13:27 (six months ago) link
Golf clap
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 27 September 2023 13:51 (six months ago) link
Kise cautiously asks:"Don't take this the wrong way: What in the court's mind does this trial look like?"Justice Engoron already found Trump liable for fraud on the first count—and granted relief."What's the point of the other six [causes of action]?" he asks.— Adam Klasfeld (@KlasfeldReports) September 27, 2023
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 27 September 2023 14:27 (six months ago) link
stophittinghimhesalreadydead.gif
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Wednesday, 27 September 2023 14:34 (six months ago) link
A useful breakdown from Klasfeld as well:
https://themessenger.com/politics/trump-organization-fraud-lawsuit-ruling-annotated
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 27 September 2023 15:02 (six months ago) link
Hasn’t he suffered enough already now that he lost one legal case no one really cares about
― deep wubs and tribral rhythms (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 27 September 2023 15:05 (six months ago) link
Don’t let’s be beastly to the guy who led a mob to try to violently overthrow the government.
― deep wubs and tribral rhythms (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 27 September 2023 15:06 (six months ago) link
Who are you directing that to?
― il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Wednesday, 27 September 2023 15:18 (six months ago) link
I believe it's a riff on the tweet Josh linked to above
― c u (crüt), Wednesday, 27 September 2023 16:00 (six months ago) link
Just heard some law professor talk about Trump & Sons' hopes for a successful appeal in the property valuation ruling: not very good at all
They have to make the point that something was amiss in the actual trial process, rather than just repeating their already debunked legal arguments... I know he's the Teflon Don, but it's looking increasingly likely that he'll have to sell off everything: golf courses, privates jet, the works
― Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 27 September 2023 19:26 (six months ago) link
In the meantime, he's technically out of business
― Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 27 September 2023 19:28 (six months ago) link
I wonder at what point his disciples will get tired of the grift machine once it grinds into motion to pay for it all. Maybe never!
― abandoned luncheonmeat (Matt #2), Wednesday, 27 September 2023 19:35 (six months ago) link
One thing is unclear: whether they can transfer assets to a different holding company outside of NY.. I'm sure they will try
― Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 27 September 2023 19:38 (six months ago) link
― deep wubs and tribral rhythms (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 27 September 2023 20:16 (six months ago) link
I'm honestly wondering how he is going to have an actual campaign if all his funds are going to legal bills
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Wednesday, 27 September 2023 20:32 (six months ago) link
The only solution is to send him more donations.
― Large, Complex, Detailed but Irrefutable POST (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 27 September 2023 20:35 (six months ago) link
Yeah wait til you see the new round of NFT's, here's a couple for free
https://e3.365dm.com/23/04/2048x1152/skynews-trump-nfts_6126860.jpg
― Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 27 September 2023 20:50 (six months ago) link
One thing I will never underestimate about Trump is his ability to bleed his marks completely dry. They will shove that cash into his teensy little hands if they have to sell their kids to get it.
― Prop Dramedy (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 27 September 2023 21:00 (six months ago) link
If they ain't broke they must be woke.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 27 September 2023 21:41 (six months ago) link
The fact that they can seriously buy NFTs of Trump as a superhero or a rock star with no irony astounds me. If Obama would have marketed himself in that way the right wing blogoshere would have flamed him to death.
― Large, Complex, Detailed but Irrefutable POST (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 27 September 2023 22:00 (six months ago) link
iirc the last set of Trump-sponsored NFTs sold as fast as dead armadillos
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 27 September 2023 22:13 (six months ago) link
presumably by dormant shell companies
― close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Wednesday, 27 September 2023 22:19 (six months ago) link
The fact that they can seriously buy NFTs of Trump as a superhero or a rock star with no irony astounds me.
it's fascism. it has little truck with irony at its own expense.
― Lumpy pillows, kiss my ass. Put that in your book (stevie), Wednesday, 27 September 2023 22:30 (six months ago) link
Now camp, on the other hand…
― deep wubs and tribral rhythms (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 27 September 2023 23:31 (six months ago) link
it's kind of amazing just how camp the GOP has swung.. besides Boebert, Santos & Trump, DeSantis sounds just like Paul Lynde on Holiday Squares with his kooky, forced laugh
Curious to see where this trend goes
― Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 27 September 2023 23:38 (six months ago) link
“Ensconced in campaign slacker mode, Trump would like to pretend that nothing of substance will change over the next 14 months, so he should get his second term now. It doesn’t take a zoologist to appreciate that the world doesn’t stop when a bear hibernates. Trump might want to pretend the rest of the campaign is a meaningless charade, but a lot of history is about to go down between today and November 2024.”
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2023/09/27/trump-presidential-election-2023-00118204
― The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 28 September 2023 00:41 (six months ago) link
I don't think this strategy is really that risky. Why would he burn a bunch of cash campaigning against a field that can't be bothered to attack him on anything? None of the other Republicans are acting like they actually want to win this.
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Thursday, 28 September 2023 01:05 (six months ago) link
yeah he needs that cash for the lawsuits ;)
― out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Thursday, 28 September 2023 01:08 (six months ago) link
If Obama would have marketed himself in that way the right wing blogoshere would have flamed him to death.
tbf there was an industrious market of bootleggers doing this sort of stuff and I think it sold well, I'd point you to the thread where we documented this (Obamasploitation or something it was called?) but sadly I'm sure 90% of images from it are broken now.
― Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 28 September 2023 09:42 (six months ago) link
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F7FUMLRa4AEBUgl?format=jpg&name=medium
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 28 September 2023 13:30 (six months ago) link
Haha but of course
The Detroit News reported: “One individual in the crowd who held a sign that said ‘union members for Trump’ acknowledged that she wasn’t a union member when approached by a reporter after the event.
“Another person with a sign that read ‘auto workers for Trump’ said he wasn’t an auto worker when asked for an interview. Both people didn’t provide their names.”
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 28 September 2023 17:43 (six months ago) link
On the other hand the man holding the "Handsome Guys For Trump" sign confirmed that he was indeed handsome
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Thursday, 28 September 2023 17:53 (six months ago) link
NEW YORK (AP) — Appeals court rejects Donald Trump's request to delay civil trial in wake of fraud ruling that threatens business empire.— Hugo Lowell (@hugolowell) September 28, 2023
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 28 September 2023 19:24 (six months ago) link
FINISH HIM!
― Lumpy pillows, kiss my ass. Put that in your book (stevie), Thursday, 28 September 2023 20:16 (six months ago) link
i'm thinking he should get the man without a country treatment. revoke his passport and citizenship and banish him to a far off land. that would make me happy. and if he ever comes here again for any reason: immediate detention in gitmo.
― scott seward, Thursday, 28 September 2023 20:28 (six months ago) link
works for me
― out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Thursday, 28 September 2023 20:33 (six months ago) link
it wouldn't be constitutional, but it definitely would be poetic justice, after he publicly said he doesn't believe in following the requirements of the US constitution
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 28 September 2023 20:39 (six months ago) link
... overheard someone mindbogglingly keep finding ways to see him as some kind of Robin Hood type hero/martyr: "He defrauded banks and investors? Good. They're scum."
― StanM, Thursday, 28 September 2023 20:46 (six months ago) link
that person probably has trouble with object permanence, huh
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Thursday, 28 September 2023 20:52 (six months ago) link
(I acted like it was something on my phone that made me laugh when they said that)
― StanM, Thursday, 28 September 2023 20:53 (six months ago) link
“I’m sorry for eavesdropping but you are very very dumb”
― the new drip king (DJP), Thursday, 28 September 2023 21:05 (six months ago) link
Sweep the leg, stevie
― The Royal House of Hangover (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 28 September 2023 21:14 (six months ago) link
Reportedly he's scheduled to be deposed in the Peter Strzok/Lisa Page thing, which is ironic on so many levels. He talked shit about them and interfered in their firing, so they filed a civil suit, which draws him in for a deposition where he will no doubt (given his track record) open himself up to further legal action.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 28 September 2023 21:29 (six months ago) link
Remember when he did an impression of those two having sex? Those were the days.
seems apt:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEhS9Y9HYjUWhen you knew that it was over you were suddenly awareThat the autumn leaves were turning to the color of your hair(lyrics ever so slightly adjusted by court order)
― slugbuggy, life has new meaning to me (breastcrawl), Thursday, 28 September 2023 21:34 (six months ago) link
haha they are saying a gov shutdown could delay his deposition
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 28 September 2023 21:45 (six months ago) link
lololol has the judge's Chico Marx quote been posted yet?
― out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Thursday, 28 September 2023 21:48 (six months ago) link
"who ya gonna believe, me or your own eyes"
literally part of the ruling
― out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Thursday, 28 September 2023 21:49 (six months ago) link
i remember it as "your lyin' eyes"
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 28 September 2023 23:21 (six months ago) link
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 28 September 2023 23:42 (six months ago) link
Libs over here are panicky as well
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/sep/29/unless-joe-biden-stands-aside-the-world-must-prepare-for-president-trump-20
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 29 September 2023 07:44 (six months ago) link
Trump has similar factors to Biden too...be funny if both of them died on the campaign.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 29 September 2023 07:46 (six months ago) link
that guardian commentator particularly embodying the serious monkey journalist headshot
― imago, Friday, 29 September 2023 08:06 (six months ago) link
The Biden issue is one of them "well I wouldn't start from here" questions. Can't see that there's any younger pol who has the necessary profile + popularity to be a better bet. He has experience of campaigning and winning against Trump. And if Biden can take a big slice out of the coot vote as in 2020, that outweighs younger people thinking he's too doddery, because old people votes seem to count double.
― xl bully romance (Bananaman Begins), Friday, 29 September 2023 09:39 (six months ago) link
(I am very much a fuck centrists into the sun guy)
― xl bully romance (Bananaman Begins), Friday, 29 September 2023 09:41 (six months ago) link
Same here re: centrists, but there has been no prep from Democrats to prepare for a leadership change. Despise Garton Ash but the sleep is deep with that lot.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 29 September 2023 10:10 (six months ago) link
If we judge Biden by actions and results instead of how creaky his voice sounds, the consensus among US Ilxors leans towards his having been v competent and effective, and perhaps even startlingly progressive - the appearance on the picket lines this week isn't nothing, and is unprecedented. That's not what gets a vast chunk of the electorate voting though, I guess. Am very much hoping Democrats are considering who will takes the reins next, though. Newsom is very good at taking the fight to the media, but I haven't really a clue on where he stands with the larger, or even smaller, issues. Again, in the media climate we have now, that might even be a strength.
― Lumpy pillows, kiss my ass. Put that in your book (stevie), Friday, 29 September 2023 10:51 (six months ago) link
But I mean Biden could die, before the election even. But so could Trump. Welcome to the duality.
― Lumpy pillows, kiss my ass. Put that in your book (stevie), Friday, 29 September 2023 10:52 (six months ago) link
Harris vs. Junior '24
― The Royal House of Hangover (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 29 September 2023 12:30 (six months ago) link
"The Californian Democratic senator Dianne Feinstein refusing to retire at 90. Really? Give us a break."
Well
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 29 September 2023 13:12 (six months ago) link
If we judge Biden by actions and results instead of how creaky his voice sounds, the consensus among US Ilxors leans towards his having been v competent and effective
― jaymc, Friday, 29 September 2023 13:29 (six months ago) link
and harris could take over if need be. she knows how to do stuff. even if she is mostly invisible and people seem to hate her for some reason.
― scott seward, Friday, 29 September 2023 13:36 (six months ago) link
She's being exactly as competent and (in)visible as most other veep before Cheney. The only way the criticism makes sense is to remember what a racist society we still are.
― hat trick of trashiness (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 29 September 2023 13:38 (six months ago) link
Exactly. And I bet she knows how to spell "potato".
― Lumpy pillows, kiss my ass. Put that in your book (stevie), Friday, 29 September 2023 13:39 (six months ago) link
yeah well i kinda figure its race/sex-based hatred.
― scott seward, Friday, 29 September 2023 13:39 (six months ago) link
see, that's what's crazy to me. you can be VP of the US for 4 or even 8 years and nobody will remember a single thing you did unless you did something horrifying like spell a word wrong or get sworn in as president on an airplane next to a blood-stained widow. (that's my weird memory of johnson anyway...don't know if its true...)
― scott seward, Friday, 29 September 2023 13:41 (six months ago) link
it might have been a dream. were they on an airplane?
― scott seward, Friday, 29 September 2023 13:42 (six months ago) link
JFK is very much alive it must have been a dream
― Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Friday, 29 September 2023 13:50 (six months ago) link
xxp or invent the internet!
The other thing I remember Dan Quayle for is also JFK related, but I'm aware that even remembering him for that makes me a political junkie.
― Andrew Farrell, Friday, 29 September 2023 13:52 (six months ago) link
I don't know, that moment moved beyond political junkie-dom and well into pop culture.
― dan selzer, Friday, 29 September 2023 13:56 (six months ago) link
Quayle was born in 1947, which makes him younger than four of the five presidents who came after him.
― jaymc, Friday, 29 September 2023 14:02 (six months ago) link
Dan Quayle showed up to the Fox News HQ for some on-air bit and nobody in the reception area recognized him
"you were vice president of what, exactly?"
― ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Friday, 29 September 2023 14:04 (six months ago) link
Didn't Quayle also tell a bunch of emaciated refugees that they all looked like happy campers?
― henry s, Friday, 29 September 2023 14:17 (six months ago) link
I remember Bret Kimberlin claiming to have been Quayle's pot dealer in college.
― peace, man, Friday, 29 September 2023 14:23 (six months ago) link
"The Holocaust was an obscene period in our nation's history. ... No, not our nation's, but in World War II. I mean, we all lived in this century. I didn't live in this century, but in this century's history."
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Friday, 29 September 2023 14:27 (six months ago) link
we all need to put food on our families.
― Tracer Hand, Friday, 29 September 2023 15:07 (six months ago) link
https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/sHMAAOSwmtFfpKbM/s-l400.jpg
― jaymc, Friday, 29 September 2023 15:12 (six months ago) link
BREAKING: Bail bondsman Scott Hall on Friday became the first defendant in the Fulton election interference case to take a plea agreement with prosecutors https://t.co/NjEcON5JWe— Tamar Hallerman (@TamarHallerman) September 29, 2023
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 29 September 2023 20:03 (six months ago) link
Departing Joint Chiefs Chairman Gen. Mark Milley:
“We are unique among the world’s militaries,” Milley said. “We don’t take an oath to a country, we don’t take an oath to a tribe, we don’t take an oath to a religion. We don’t take an oath to a king, or a queen, or a tyrant or a dictator.”
“And we don’t take an oath to a wannabe dictator,” he spat. “We take an oath to the Constitution and we take an oath to the idea that is America – and we’re willing to die to protect it.”
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 29 September 2023 20:06 (six months ago) link
Sounds like a traitor to me.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 29 September 2023 20:15 (six months ago) link
"he spat" lol
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 29 September 2023 20:18 (six months ago) link
Woke Military
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Friday, 29 September 2023 20:21 (six months ago) link
it's just crazy to me that the GOP used to have total boners for institutions like the Armed Forces and the FBI, now they're infested with the wokes and should be abolished
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 29 September 2023 20:23 (six months ago) link
thing is, if they want to rip up the constitution and start instituting a dictatorship - getting the military establishment on board with this idea is quite an important part of this process!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 29 September 2023 20:38 (six months ago) link
'Please answer the question: are you or have you ever been a member of the Wokes? Answer the question!"
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 29 September 2023 20:42 (six months ago) link
"Have you ever used a pronoun?!?"
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Friday, 29 September 2023 20:45 (six months ago) link
ask/tell
― close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Friday, 29 September 2023 21:05 (six months ago) link
I'm guessing there are probably more than several reasons why Milley should be executed, but him informing Bejing that he's not going to let the crazy orange man launch any nukes is not one of them.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 29 September 2023 21:05 (six months ago) link
Our military, thank God, consists of a lot of non-white and non-Cis-male people in positions of power who would probably not look favorably on going along with a white supremacist dictatorship coup attempt.
― deep wubs and tribral rhythms (Boring, Maryland), Friday, 29 September 2023 21:22 (six months ago) link
Tuberville wants to change that
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 29 September 2023 21:29 (six months ago) link
exactly, that's the whole doomed plan
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Friday, 29 September 2023 21:30 (six months ago) link
Except our military also consists of a lot of white supremacists and white supremacist supporters so I'm not secure in my confidence that there will always be a check in place there.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 29 September 2023 21:30 (six months ago) link
there aren't enough white people who will serve to make it a viable proposition
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Friday, 29 September 2023 21:33 (six months ago) link
I mean, from the Army data as of 10/31/22:
The Racial/Ethnic distribution of the Army is as follows –White, Not Hispanic: 53.6%, Black, Not Hispanic: 20.3%, Hispanic: 17.6%, Asian or Pacific Islander:6.9%, American Indian or Alaskan Native: 0.9%, and Unknown/Other: 0.8%.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 29 September 2023 21:36 (six months ago) link
I think the combined Armed Forces average is quite a bit higher in black sailors/soldiers/guardsmen etc.
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 29 September 2023 21:41 (six months ago) link
also possible that some small % of white people in the military are not sympathetic to white supremacists, but who knows?
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Friday, 29 September 2023 21:45 (six months ago) link
lol, it's possible
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 29 September 2023 21:47 (six months ago) link
I'm not arguing that every white person in the military is sympathetic to Nazis, jfc. Nor am I arguing that a coup from the Nazi-doused military is around the corner. But I think it's overly hopeful to pretend that the US military is this shining example of diversity that will protect us unquestioningly from creeping fascism across the board, the military, like the police, is pretty well known for attracting Nazi sympathetic types.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 29 September 2023 21:51 (six months ago) link
Former President Donald Trump on Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce’s relationship: “I wish the best for both of them. I hope they enjoy their life, maybe together, maybe not — most likely not.”— Gary Grumbach (@GaryGrumbach) September 29, 2023
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 29 September 2023 22:03 (six months ago) link
xp - Then I take it you're in favor of doing whatever steps can be done to forestall a fascist takeover apart from simply trusting the military to prevent it for us. Sounds reasonable.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 29 September 2023 22:04 (six months ago) link
That tweet is basically 😑
― The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 29 September 2023 22:04 (six months ago) link
Who here said “the military is the only thing that will save us from fascism” rather than pointing out that it may not be a reliable tool for a fascist regime, especially one that has white supremacy as its base. I’ve also thought that what Tuberville wants an all-white, all-male military but the horse has left that barn.
― deep wubs and tribral rhythms (Boring, Maryland), Friday, 29 September 2023 22:12 (six months ago) link
If E! had made Trump the host of Talk Soup in 2010 it would have saved us all a lot of trouble.
― papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 29 September 2023 22:36 (six months ago) link
That's our era's "if Hitler had gotten into art school..."
― The Royal House of Hangover (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 29 September 2023 22:38 (six months ago) link
"Most Likely Not" = Next Taylor Bop
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 29 September 2023 22:49 (six months ago) link
I'd like to think our Armed Forces leadership is mostly educated, apolitical and committed to upholding the Constitution.. and then I remember Michael Flynn
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 29 September 2023 22:59 (six months ago) link
It’s a mixed bag for sure but I do know some current or ex military officers and they are very anti-Trump. They see him as a threat to the Constitution. He probably has more support from farther down the ranks.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Friday, 29 September 2023 23:21 (six months ago) link
If the military hadn't told him to pound sand when he asked for their help in overturning the election, things would have turned out quite differently.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 29 September 2023 23:22 (six months ago) link
Yeah the line held. Not one of those things you want to stress test a lot though.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Friday, 29 September 2023 23:27 (six months ago) link
Biden Democrats serve the military's interests every bit as much as Republicans and more than Trump Republicans. If it had been Bernie or someone promising to trim military budgets, the love of the Constitution probably gets a good deal shakier.
― papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 29 September 2023 23:36 (six months ago) link
Oh for sure.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Friday, 29 September 2023 23:38 (six months ago) link
watching those idiots at the debate the other night gives me some real hope that Trumpism will die with Trump... there will always be right-wing nuts and populists, but whatever his thing is, his appeal - it's a one man band
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 29 September 2023 23:46 (six months ago) link
I remember thinking back in '16 that a defense sec with the nickname "mad dog" (without knowing fuck all about him) within a Trump administration probably means lol we're all going to die, possibly much sooner than we might expect. But he resigned after not much time and obv hates Trump to this day. If you can't get the "mad dogs" on side amongst military top brass your dreams of dictatorship are going to be an uphill battle - with treacle in your boots.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 29 September 2023 23:57 (six months ago) link
yeah, I think draft-dodgers in hairspray & bronzer are not gonna necessarily appeal to the Mad Dogs of the world
― Andy the Grasshopper, Saturday, 30 September 2023 00:00 (six months ago) link
... and I think Trump's insults of McCain probably got him off on the wrong foot with the Joint Chiefs
― Andy the Grasshopper, Saturday, 30 September 2023 00:04 (six months ago) link
Trump mimicking Biden: "Let's indict the motherfucker. Let's indict." pic.twitter.com/1v2bzYF09t— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) September 29, 2023
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 30 September 2023 11:32 (six months ago) link
it’s insane how well he’s internalized the timing of standup comedy
― Tracer Hand, Saturday, 30 September 2023 14:21 (six months ago) link
If I can leave a note, I would suggest a little more Biden, something more like "C'mon, man! Let's indict the motherfucker, Jack!"
― henry s, Saturday, 30 September 2023 15:13 (six months ago) link
yeah thats a stock trump voice
― lag∞n, Saturday, 30 September 2023 15:23 (six months ago) link
yup, sounds exactly like Trump to me, nothing like Biden
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Saturday, 30 September 2023 20:09 (six months ago) link
Struggle with one foe long enough, you eventually start sounding like your enemy.
Wait, that didn't sound Star Wars-y enough. Needs more Yoda.
Struggle with the Trump Side you may, but... forever will it dominate your destiny.
If you strike him down, he will become more powerful than you can possibly imagine.
Let the Trump flow through your veins, Joe. Feel the power of the Trump Side.
― The Royal House of Hangover (Ye Mad Puffin), Saturday, 30 September 2023 20:40 (six months ago) link
in some of these he reminds me of regis philbin
Montage of 33 clips of the stupidest, most vile, insane, weirdest, addled dementia-ridden, psychotic statements made by Trump over the past two weeks. pic.twitter.com/iCbt5PtzBX— Ron Filipkowski (@RonFilipkowski) September 30, 2023
― mookieproof, Saturday, 30 September 2023 21:46 (six months ago) link
Slurring his words, Trump starts riffing about how he would rather be electrocuted to death than be eaten by a shark. pic.twitter.com/yqPrxWRzN3— Ron Filipkowski (@RonFilipkowski) October 1, 2023
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 2 October 2023 02:27 (six months ago) link
I guess I would agree?
― henry s, Monday, 2 October 2023 02:48 (six months ago) link
I would much rather he be electrocuted, then his corpse eaten by a shark. This would be the most respectful of his dying wish.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Monday, 2 October 2023 02:52 (six months ago) link
He can have it all
― Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Monday, 2 October 2023 03:18 (six months ago) link
the ex-sparkie in me is troubled that particular tautology, electrocution already implies death - you orange numpt
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 2 October 2023 04:36 (six months ago) link
But would he rather be a vampire or a werewolf?
― nickn, Monday, 2 October 2023 04:42 (six months ago) link
I got shocked as a young ‘un and it did me no harm. (Makes cat meowing sounds in front of co-worker)
― deep wubs and tribral rhythms (Boring, Maryland), Monday, 2 October 2023 08:30 (six months ago) link
I've had hundreds of belts. It corrected me .. a bit.
is it new news that Scott Hall has flipped in the Georgia trial?
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 2 October 2023 14:34 (six months ago) link
Yeah, that's awesome. I bet he won't be the last.
Meanwhile:
Trump isn’t getting a jury trial in his $250m civil fraud suit brought against him by New York AG James because one of his lawyers overlooked submitting the routine request/checking boxes on the form, per two people familiar https://t.co/7zvUfytiEr— Hugo Lowell (@hugolowell) October 2, 2023
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 2 October 2023 14:37 (six months ago) link
http://images.generallyawesome2.com/photos/funny/photos/justin-bieber-lawyer.jpg
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Monday, 2 October 2023 14:41 (six months ago) link
Lol, apparently the prosecution leads with an Eric deposition, where he refuses to take responsibility. Then DJTJ, who does the same. Then Donald, who throws Weisselberg under the bus. It's a shame this isn't on TV, because I have a hunch there are going to be lots of awesome deposition clips of Trump and his two squirming scions.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 2 October 2023 14:49 (six months ago) link
Missing a request for a jury trial is pretty much per se malpractice.
― il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Monday, 2 October 2023 16:39 (six months ago) link
forgetting who the defendant is in this case, is a jury trial usually advantageous for the defence in a civil case?
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 2 October 2023 16:44 (six months ago) link
I am not a lawyer, but in this case the judge gets to decide punishment (right?), and he's kind of tipped his hand a little by already establishing guilt. Also, there's no way to get, say, a deadlocked judge.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 2 October 2023 16:47 (six months ago) link
could swing either way I'd think--a jury sometimes hands down a huge $$ judgement that a judge probably wouldn't, but also a judge is less likely to be swayed by your bullshit if you're obviously guilty.
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Monday, 2 October 2023 16:48 (six months ago) link
I am just presuming Trump would like a shot at getting some of his ppl on a jury. Judge apparently isn't one.
― il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Monday, 2 October 2023 16:48 (six months ago) link
i guess it makes sense that the verdict of a judge would be more ... moderate?
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 2 October 2023 17:11 (six months ago) link
when you are having a bench trial, best thing you can do is slag off the judge and call the AG "racist" outside the court - every little bit helps!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 2 October 2023 17:18 (six months ago) link
xpost You mean the same judge that already ordered the entire organization potentially dissolved?
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 2 October 2023 17:18 (six months ago) link
― what you say is true but by no means (lukas), Monday, 2 October 2023 17:19 (six months ago) link
If I had to vaguely guess, besides being that's the only way he thinks, some part of him/the lawyers might be hoping for a 'see if we rile them up they'll act badly in response and then we can claim they really are biased.' But this does not strike me as very sound.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 2 October 2023 17:19 (six months ago) link
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, October 2, 2023 1:11 PM (seven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
You mean the same judge that already ordered the entire organization potentially dissolved?
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, October 2, 2023 1:18 PM (five seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink
― lag∞n, Monday, 2 October 2023 17:20 (six months ago) link
So delicious.
― Cow_Art, Monday, 2 October 2023 17:20 (six months ago) link
I appreciate this photo of someone is kinda realizing 'wait...I allowed this to happen and now I'm stuck here.'
https://themessenger.com/_next/image?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcms.themessenger.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2023%2F10%2FDonald-Trump-1701883837-1024x573.jpg&w=1920&q=75
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 2 October 2023 17:21 (six months ago) link
Also, no red tie?
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 2 October 2023 17:22 (six months ago) link
Feelin' blue.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 2 October 2023 17:25 (six months ago) link
Missing a request for a jury trial is pretty much per se malpractice.Does that mean a likely appeal or retrial?
Does that mean a likely appeal or retrial?
Neither. It's a civil trial, not criminal, so it has no effect on the outcome (no right to effective counsel in a civil trial). But theoretically Trump might have a civil cause of action against the attorney for malpractice.
― il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Monday, 2 October 2023 17:27 (six months ago) link
This is like when Alex Jones’ lawyers sent his phone over as discovery
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Monday, 2 October 2023 17:28 (six months ago) link
xpost You mean the same judge that already ordered the entire organization potentially dissolved?― Josh in Chicago, Monday, October 2, 2023 1:18 PM (nine minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, October 2, 2023 1:18 PM (nine minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
"forgetting who the defendant is in this case"
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 2 October 2023 17:28 (six months ago) link
Reportedly Trump and his kids are supposed to take the stand, but I don't see that happening.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 2 October 2023 17:29 (six months ago) link
do we actually know that the lawyer forgot to do this and that they wanted a jury trial?
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Monday, 2 October 2023 17:34 (six months ago) link
I'm honestly surprised Trump isn't representing himself.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 2 October 2023 17:36 (six months ago) link
maybe the lawyer did it on purpose
― out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Monday, 2 October 2023 17:37 (six months ago) link
I heard that he definitely wouldn't have wanted a bench trial in this case, or wouldn't have been advised to get one if was getting proper legal advise, so I guess it must have been a fuckup.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 2 October 2023 17:37 (six months ago) link
Knowing you're never gonna see a dime for it can have a real impact on the quality of one's work.
― read-only (unperson), Monday, 2 October 2023 17:39 (six months ago) link
Maybe they're getting paid in room service credit.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 2 October 2023 17:46 (six months ago) link
so how does the strategy work exactly, where you call the judge deranged and the case a scam?
― StanM, Monday, 2 October 2023 17:49 (six months ago) link
I'm guessing it's the "I've got rubes sending me millions of dollars and a decent shot of being President again, and anyway I'll probably die in a few years so fuck it" strategy
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Monday, 2 October 2023 17:52 (six months ago) link
Maybe they're getting paid in room service credit
Hamberders
― The Royal House of Hangover (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 2 October 2023 18:25 (six months ago) link
One hundredth of a Trump NFT per billing hour
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Monday, 2 October 2023 18:31 (six months ago) link
“This is a judge that should be disbarred. This is a judge that should be out of office. This is a judge that some people say could be charged criminally for what he’s doing. He’s interfering with an election and it’s a disgrace.”
— Donald Trump, upon leaving his civil fraud trial in New York City.
― Cow_Art, Monday, 2 October 2023 18:35 (six months ago) link
This is Mike Judgehttps://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTCf8sjG9BnhLPUca0ICaRbgzcho0Pl6rEg8ztE51L52VeIa9zg
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 2 October 2023 18:44 (six months ago) link
This is Judge Reinholdhttps://www.themoviedb.org/t/p/w500/oPdJz2hSIkrj1wvOpupGoIej6IO.jpg
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 2 October 2023 18:45 (six months ago) link
so I guess contempt of court isn't a thing anymore?
― StanM, Monday, 2 October 2023 18:48 (six months ago) link
his rants about the judge devaluing his properties are irrelevant, the figure isn't a selling price it's what the tax appraisers decide it's value is for their purposes. I don't know fuck all about law but I know a pointless, completely null defense argument when I see one.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 2 October 2023 19:00 (six months ago) link
Applause to JiC
― blurry picture of mostly amorphous feelings (Hunt3r), Monday, 2 October 2023 20:52 (six months ago) link
the figures they used were absurd but there are a lot of reasons for a gulf between taxable value and likely sale value of a property
most of which, if not nebulous and legally questionable, would mean a swift increase at reassessment
he's basically being marcel duchamp and saying, no, since I signed this urinal it's now a work of art and not the same as a toilet you buy from the supplier
― ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Monday, 2 October 2023 20:53 (six months ago) link
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Monday, October 2, 2023 1:34 PM (three hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
in the article it said that youre supposed to submit a form saying whether you want a jury trial or not and they did not submit the form, however the prosecution did submit the form and asked for a bench trial, so yea seems like a oopsie
― lag∞n, Monday, 2 October 2023 20:55 (six months ago) link
Yeah, but it doesn't work retroactively. His argument was, iirc, even if it wasn't worth a lot *then* it is *now*, but whatever value was added came *after* it was overvalued. And then there's flat-out fuckery like saying Trump Tower had three times as much space as was assessed. I believe there was some reporting that as soon as the overestimation of square footage came out, Trump Inc. stopped lying about it.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 2 October 2023 21:05 (six months ago) link
always a good strategy at a bench trial - insulting the presiding judge lol
Throughout the day, defense attorneys also took aim at the judge, making testy assertions such as “I don’t think you’re an expert on accounting standards” and “you owe it to the defendants to listen to this evidence.”
― Andy the Grasshopper, Monday, 2 October 2023 21:19 (six months ago) link
but you see, I signed next to the statement that the square footage magically tripled so I made it so
― ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Monday, 2 October 2023 21:30 (six months ago) link
lol... I've heard it's not even a dedicated form - It's literally a "jury trial" box that wasn't checked on another form!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 2 October 2023 21:49 (six months ago) link
A dozen innocent people plus alternates have been spared by this witless gaff
― Andy the Grasshopper, Monday, 2 October 2023 21:52 (six months ago) link
EXCLUSIVE: Arizona prosecutors are probing Trumpworld efforts to reverse the results of the 2020 presidential election — years into Joe Biden’s presidencyhttps://t.co/v8en5nUO8b— Rolling Stone (@RollingStone) October 3, 2023
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 3 October 2023 00:10 (six months ago) link
this guy just cant catch a break
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 3 October 2023 00:13 (six months ago) link
How can he be a "threat to democracy" when there are thousands of elections all over this country every year and he only tried to steal one of them? A statistically insignificant number!
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 00:22 (six months ago) link
he just wanted to steal one election, as a treat
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 3 October 2023 00:24 (six months ago) link
He tried to steal the prettiest one
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 00:27 (six months ago) link
lol good stuff
Eric Trump says New York City is dirty.Also, Eric Trump says his father has done more to shape New York City which he describes as amazing pic.twitter.com/YNJJti1MFp— Acyn (@Acyn) October 3, 2023
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 3 October 2023 02:31 (six months ago) link
starting to grow Perot ears
― real warm grandpa (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 04:24 (six months ago) link
I was about to post a picture of that genetically modified rat with an ear growing out of its back, but it was horrifying, even by the standards of Eric Trump.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 3 October 2023 12:07 (six months ago) link
one’s a hideous abomination formed by unholy meddling with the natural order, the other is a genetically modified rat etc etc
― come on barbo let’s go parpo (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 16:16 (six months ago) link
Earic Trump
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 16:18 (six months ago) link
jesus looking old there man
Trump shares bizarre court sketch of him sitting next to Jesus at fraud trial https://t.co/yQ70OstOy1 pic.twitter.com/4hdZ5Eq70c— New York Post (@nypost) October 3, 2023
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 3 October 2023 16:21 (six months ago) link
hey man, he packed a lotta livn' in those 33 years
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 16:22 (six months ago) link
forgot to hydrate
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 3 October 2023 16:23 (six months ago) link
Jesus looking old and also sinister.
― Large, Complex, Detailed but Irrefutable POST (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 16:23 (six months ago) link
He never buys any smokes iirc
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 16:25 (six months ago) link
Jesus looks like a guy with some dark secrets
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 16:25 (six months ago) link
unindicted co-conspirator #17 unmasked as yeshua bar yosef during surprise court appearance
― come on barbo let’s go parpo (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 16:28 (six months ago) link
looks like his death sentence was commuted to 20 years in prison and he paid off the Samaritan gang to shank Judas
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 16:29 (six months ago) link
he came back from the dead to attend a civil trial in New York, that doesn't surprise me a bit
― Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 3 October 2023 16:29 (six months ago) link
he looks like barry gibb
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 16:37 (six months ago) link
Jesus, or Sauron?
― The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 16:40 (six months ago) link
Jim Caviezel?
― Hongro Hongro Hippies (Myonga Vön Bontee), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 16:52 (six months ago) link
Jesus famously hung out with fraudsters.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 16:54 (six months ago) link
maybe Our Saviour sides with the prosecution? he works in mysterious ways, after all
― Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 3 October 2023 17:02 (six months ago) link
Trump, on Truth Social, is attacking Judge Engoron's *clerk," — who is literally in the courtroom with him — while calling her "Chuck Schumer's girlfriend" and posting a link to her Instagram account.I suspect this will be an exhibit in some gag order arguments.— Kyle Cheney (@kyledcheney) October 3, 2023
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 3 October 2023 17:03 (six months ago) link
Hang on, America!
― The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 17:04 (six months ago) link
(I mean, we’ve all been hanging on for dear life for damn near a decade, just a few more years)
― The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 17:05 (six months ago) link
― out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 17:08 (six months ago) link
Can you call back, my son? I'm hanging in court with Trump right now. Even better, just shoot me a text.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 3 October 2023 17:09 (six months ago) link
A contempt order would be hilarious.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 17:11 (six months ago) link
"Do you solemnly swear to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help you... uh, that guy right there?"
― The Royal House of Hangover (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 17:12 (six months ago) link
the nails in His wrists will set off the courtroom metal detector
― Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 3 October 2023 17:13 (six months ago) link
they seem to be tiptoeing around a gag order in all of the cases because he's a presidential candidate, perhaps when a witness or a court official ends up dead they might think he's gone a bit too far this time!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 17:15 (six months ago) link
can he be taken into custody on CoC in a trial like this or is it just censure
― Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 17:19 (six months ago) link
nothing will happen because roaches dont die but in *theory* anyway...
― Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 17:20 (six months ago) link
when is this fucker going to die
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 17:20 (six months ago) link
Jesus is right there. Trump could just go with him.
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 17:23 (six months ago) link
"When you saw only one set of footprints, it was then that I carried you."
(attempts to lift Trump)
"Fuck, what a gluttonous slob. Why don't you get some steps in yourself, you lazy-ass lump."
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 3 October 2023 17:44 (six months ago) link
Can't believe this has to keep being said but can we maybe focus on Trump's being a hateful, racist, fraudulent wannabe-dictator and maybe not crack jokes about his weight, as those won't hurt him but might make others feel shit?
― Lumpy pillows, kiss my ass. Put that in your book (stevie), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 18:17 (six months ago) link
Yup - it's shit like making fun of people's weight that is the reason we hate Trump.
― peace, man, Tuesday, 3 October 2023 18:23 (six months ago) link
Agree that there are lots of other avenues to attack that individual.
I am, however, mildly okay with at least some petty snipes at Trump, because he deals in them. And lo, it is written: thou shalt not disheth it out if thou cannot taketh it.
If he is going to deal in petty appearance-based slights about Liddle Marco or about his rape accusers not being Tens, then one can be forgiven for some of the (admittedly pretty juvenile) slights about the size of his hands or his stupid "hair" or the degeneracy of his diet or his ketchup/well-done steak habit or whatever.
Of course I don't condone any line of attack that makes decent, innocemt people feel hurt. But... Trump has taken the low road so many times that I am not sure we're obliged to take the high road where he is concerned.
― The Royal House of Hangover (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 18:54 (six months ago) link
https://themessenger.com/politics/trump-gag-order-new-york-engoron-clerk-truth-social
It's notable that the judge has clearly let Trump skate on all the venting against himself, but as soon as Trump did this, the hammer fell. One suspects his lawyers will take the hint in turn. Also: since Don Jr and Eric are part of this as well, they can't be proxies for dad here.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 3 October 2023 19:21 (six months ago) link
Barron, you're hired!
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 19:23 (six months ago) link
I'm sure this, finally, will keep T in check
― peanut filibuster parfait (Eric H.), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 19:36 (six months ago) link
I mean what happens if he defies the gag order? can't be good
― frogbs, Tuesday, 3 October 2023 19:37 (six months ago) link
I actually am honestly wondering what Trump will do here.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 3 October 2023 19:37 (six months ago) link
― peanut filibuster parfait (Eric H.),
When he, finally, became presidential.
― hat trick of trashiness (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 19:38 (six months ago) link
Quoth the judge, "Failure to abide by this order will result in serious sanctions." Saw somewhere that that could mean 30 days in jail.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 3 October 2023 19:38 (six months ago) link
His lawyers probably have a hard enough job keeping the phone out of his stubby little hands during the trial, lest he be actively "truthing" during it.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 19:38 (six months ago) link
can he be taken into custody on CoC in a trial like this or is it just censure― Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Tuesday, October 3, 2023 10:19 AM
― Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Tuesday, October 3, 2023 10:19 AM
In theory, a contemnor of a lawful order in a civil case in New York can be fine, or arrested and jailed. It depends how far the contempt goes.
Looks like we are going to find out.
― felicity, Tuesday, 3 October 2023 19:40 (six months ago) link
fined
Per a Bluesky post from Popehat/Ken White:
Annoying, insulting, or picking on courtroom staff is foolish on an entirely different level than just annoying the judge.You have NO IDEA the array of things that can start going badly for you. And judges are VERY protective of staff.
You have NO IDEA the array of things that can start going badly for you. And judges are VERY protective of staff.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 3 October 2023 19:41 (six months ago) link
fuck around, fined out
― Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 3 October 2023 19:42 (six months ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9b7QwdCWhw
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 19:42 (six months ago) link
Separately from legal reporter Adam Klasfeld, attending the trial:
One of the reasons Trump was playing with fire going after *this* clerk:She's an active participant in Engoron's cases, and she sometimes personally questions the parties. In fact, she grilled Trump's lawyers in critical pre-trial hearings in this case. https://t.co/yxODiZhUeu— Adam Klasfeld (@KlasfeldReports) October 3, 2023
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 3 October 2023 19:44 (six months ago) link
Basically he really did the stupidest thing possibly in a case where there's only one person who makes the decisions.
Did laugh at him saying he has a 'buyer beware' statement on all his business docs saying the figures above are all BS you want the real ones hey do your own research' outside the courtroom.
― nashwan, Tuesday, 3 October 2023 19:46 (six months ago) link
Basically he really did the stupidest thing possibly in a case where there's only one person who makes the decisions. every moment of his life
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 19:47 (six months ago) link
^^^ and yet.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 19:48 (six months ago) link
And this is only the first (second? third? fourth?) of five (six? seven? eight?) court cases, plus whatever other trouble he gets himself into.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 3 October 2023 19:49 (six months ago) link
On the one hand, he's once again demonstrated that he's the most recklessly stupid motherfucker on earth. On the other hand, being the most recklessly stupid motherfucker on earth has served him pretty well for nearly 80 years.
At this point, I'm basically betting on him dying peacefully in his sleep just before ever having to suffer any serious repercussions of his many, many malfeasances. I mean, yes, we're leading up to lots of potential comeuppance right now but at this phase in the process it's mostly just an annoyance for him.
― Prop Dramedy (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 19:53 (six months ago) link
I mean, it really is about proving that he can do literally anything and daring anyone to stop him, right? Everything is simultaneously the stupidest and the most necessary thing for him to do in the context of the persona he's cultivated
― peanut filibuster parfait (Eric H.), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 19:54 (six months ago) link
He should just go ahead and take a literal dump on the courtroom floor.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 19:56 (six months ago) link
“Personal attacks on members on my court staff are unacceptable, inappropriate, and I won't tolerate it [in my courtroom],” said New York State Supreme Court Justice Arthur Engoron.
He added later to "consider this a gag order for all parties from posting about any members of my staff."
feel like he should be able to avoid talking about court staff, if this was a gag order for the whole case theres no way lol
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 3 October 2023 19:58 (six months ago) link
Yeah, but tell him he can't, and he will.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 19:59 (six months ago) link
thats true it would be delicious to just say one little thing more
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 3 October 2023 20:00 (six months ago) link
Everyone thought that seeing Trump in a courtroom would be cathartic, but little did they know he'd be sitting there posting slash/fic about the courtroom staff
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 20:01 (six months ago) link
Oh, he will! At least one more thing.
The man is a black hat hacker of American democracy, whether he’s aware of it or not.
― The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 20:02 (six months ago) link
the judge gave and order a very mean order that i cant say anything about the court staff, like i couldnt say that theyre bought and paid for the by the deep state, i couldnt make a beautiful statement like that, its sad really
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 3 October 2023 20:02 (six months ago) link
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Tuesday, October 3, 2023 10:20 AM (two hours ago)
― out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 20:04 (six months ago) link
Feel like he's gonna get Caesared at some point
― real warm grandpa (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 20:39 (six months ago) link
On 5th Avenue.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 3 October 2023 20:40 (six months ago) link
Or, more likely, Nicky-in-Casino'ed
― real warm grandpa (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 20:40 (six months ago) link
Little Caesared - Chokes on Crazy Bread
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 20:52 (six months ago) link
"Did laugh at him saying he has a 'buyer beware' statement on all his business docs saying the figures above are all BS you want the real ones hey do your own research' outside the courtroom."
he actually said this was a brilliant and solid "worthless clause" that insulates him from legality, that's the actual term he used .... lol
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 21:08 (six months ago) link
Guess he decided to behave himself for now:
As for Mr. Trump, he sat quietly during the afternoon, occasionally making comments to his lawyers as he watched one aggressively question the accountant, Donald Bender.After court concluded, he did not respond to questions about the judge’s order but said he would return to the trial Wednesday.
After court concluded, he did not respond to questions about the judge’s order but said he would return to the trial Wednesday.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 3 October 2023 23:31 (six months ago) link
Maybe he'll learn something. Wouldn't it be funny if he went to jail and got a law degree? After he converted to Islam?
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 3 October 2023 23:37 (six months ago) link
What if Trump started publishing a ‘zine in prison and it was shockingly great.— Jon Wurster (@jonwurster) March 31, 2023
― Josefa, Wednesday, 4 October 2023 00:27 (six months ago) link
Yeah, but tell him he can't, and he will.you just know he's got some massive scotoma in his vision from looking at that eclipse trying to be a tough guy
― assert (matttkkkk), Wednesday, 4 October 2023 00:43 (six months ago) link
I don't know dick about the law BUT! I have seen a number of police procedural shows, and the lawyer who gets a contempt of court charge typically spends a night in jail. I can totally see Trump scaring up a CoC on purpose here and there, seeing that night in the slam as priceless pr for his sad cause.
― henry s, Wednesday, 4 October 2023 01:32 (six months ago) link
― deep wubs and tribral rhythms (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 4 October 2023 07:56 (six months ago) link
I predict a Jeremy Bentham type future for his remains
― StanM, Wednesday, 4 October 2023 10:27 (six months ago) link
LOL, this thread is like 25% trump death fantasies but people get their feathers ruffled when people make fun of his weight. Just don't say he'll die of obesity I guess.
― BrianB, Wednesday, 4 October 2023 12:26 (six months ago) link
People get their "feathers ruffled" because there might be people here who have had to deal all their lives with with bullying and self-image issues as a result of their weight and don't in the year 2023 need to be made to feel those issues yet again just to score cheap laughs on our dickhead ex-president.
Death fantasies are less offensive imo because no one here has suffered all their lives from dying, other than the way we all do every day.
― il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Wednesday, 4 October 2023 12:41 (six months ago) link
Thank you, and I can't fucking believe this has to be repeated.
― Lumpy pillows, kiss my ass. Put that in your book (stevie), Wednesday, 4 October 2023 12:43 (six months ago) link
Brian the death wishes are expressing extreme dislike of his personality and actions. Mocking his weight implies that being overweight is grounds for mockery. Does that not seem like a very different thing to you?
― assert (matttkkkk), Wednesday, 4 October 2023 13:17 (six months ago) link
sb and move on imo, this is neither a serious nor good faith argument
― the new drip king (DJP), Wednesday, 4 October 2023 13:44 (six months ago) link
SB away I guess, but I do seriously think it's an odd form of group think morality that relishes death fantasies but shuns weight jokes. I don't have a problem with either, I just was bummed about Josh getting scolded for his footprints in the sand joke, which I thought was funny.
― BrianB, Wednesday, 4 October 2023 14:27 (six months ago) link
One is punching down, and the other is killing up. Seems pretty self-explanatory
― peanut filibuster parfait (Eric H.), Wednesday, 4 October 2023 14:46 (six months ago) link
Can't we all just agree that Trump dying would be his first ever service to humanity?
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 4 October 2023 16:03 (six months ago) link
no it’s an odd group think morality
― brimstead, Wednesday, 4 October 2023 16:07 (six months ago) link
I dunno, body shaming seems like the kind of behavior we rightfully find objectionable in people like Trump. Admittedly, there is much more objectionable behavior, but still.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 4 October 2023 16:16 (six months ago) link
I think it's legit to make fun of Donald Trump for being fat because in addition to being fat, he is extremely vain, and he has a cult of sycophants who generate fan-art of him not being fat, in fact being super-muscular and manly. So a joke about Donald Trump being fat is not a joke about fat people being per se bad; it's a joke about Donald Trump's vanity and the insane flattery of his cult.
But ILX has this really weird, overcompensating hangup that fat jokes are, like, the worst, most evil thing someone could ever post. It's just one of the rules of the road around here, and people should know that by now.
― read-only (unperson), Wednesday, 4 October 2023 16:32 (six months ago) link
Wishing Trump dead, even if it had any power, is only proverbially hurting Trump.
Making fat jokes re: Trump is like throwing a grenade onto a crowded sidewalk he's standing on next to 100 innocent people, then asking what's the big idea, the grenade was only intended for him
― real warm grandpa (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 4 October 2023 16:33 (six months ago) link
Xxxposts
It may also be telegraphing to some friends "if I liked you less, I could be making this joke about you"
― real warm grandpa (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 4 October 2023 16:35 (six months ago) link
Is Trump usually surrounded by innocent people though?
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Wednesday, 4 October 2023 16:36 (six months ago) link
It's okay to ridicule the spray tan however, have at it
― Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 4 October 2023 16:37 (six months ago) link
Presumably when he goes to Quiznos it's not always on Theocracy Tuesdays
― real warm grandpa (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 4 October 2023 16:38 (six months ago) link
supposedly the only thing he hates hearing about himself is that he's not nearly as wealthy as he claims
which is funny because it's true, he's made terrible choices with money every step of the way and all the numbers are imaginary
oh, you could sell your little golf course for a billion dollars to a rich saudi guy? do it, man
― ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Wednesday, 4 October 2023 16:39 (six months ago) link
Re-elect him and he certainly will
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Wednesday, 4 October 2023 16:41 (six months ago) link
look I agree the fat jokes are probably in bad taste but this dude did list himself at 215, I mean come on if you could make an exception for anyone
― frogbs, Wednesday, 4 October 2023 16:52 (six months ago) link
The Saudis gave a billion dollars to his worthless bad-at-business son-in-law when the Trumps were out of office, the guy probably could get MBS to pay him hundreds of millions for swampland.
― deep wubs and tribral rhythms (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 4 October 2023 16:58 (six months ago) link
they’re not really “jokes” though, they’re just like annoying witticisms or something
― brimstead, Wednesday, 4 October 2023 16:58 (six months ago) link
they’re like bill Maher “jokes”
― brimstead, Wednesday, 4 October 2023 16:59 (six months ago) link
Ben Shapiro "jokes"
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 4 October 2023 17:03 (six months ago) link
Trump being large isn't funny, but Trump claiming to be 215 lbs is pretty funny
― ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Wednesday, 4 October 2023 18:04 (six months ago) link
"He has some repellent traits, which it's important that you understand I share"
― Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 4 October 2023 18:55 (six months ago) link
I guess as long as Republicans promise not to tell any jokes about President Pritzker...
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Wednesday, 4 October 2023 18:58 (six months ago) link
Trump's posture is his funniest physical characteristic. Constantly leaning into the headwinds of life
― papal hotwife (milo z), Wednesday, 4 October 2023 18:58 (six months ago) link
Plus the hair, the tan, the hands, the ties. You could write a dissertation on the way he presents himself to the world and weight wouldn't even be a footnote.
― henry s, Wednesday, 4 October 2023 19:08 (six months ago) link
right but it's all made a lot funnier by the fact that he's a giant lunk
― frogbs, Wednesday, 4 October 2023 19:25 (six months ago) link
Dude has attacked many people by how they look etc, that kinda makes him fair game.
Bullies really only understand a punch in the nose.
― earlnash, Wednesday, 4 October 2023 20:26 (six months ago) link
Trump was not a bad looking guy in his younger days, and he would be a perfectly adequate looking old dude if he hadn't devoted so much energy to becoming a burnt sienna grotesquerie with unkempt candy floss hair and a suppurating asshole for a mouth. If you wanna criticize his physicality, it's super easy to train all of your focus on the shit he actively does to make himself monstrous as part of his personal brand without ever even touching on stuff like his weight.
― Prop Dramedy (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 4 October 2023 20:29 (six months ago) link
^^^^ he's a self-created monster
― Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 4 October 2023 20:30 (six months ago) link
the 1 billion dollar bill should have his face on it - he'd never get to see it though
― StanM, Wednesday, 4 October 2023 20:30 (six months ago) link
It's the look of winky smarm mixed with unflattering vitriol, profuse sweat, ill fitting clothing and desperate insecurity
― Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 4 October 2023 20:31 (six months ago) link
xxxxphe's definitely not reading this though, is he? whereas there are people reading this that find that kind of speak hurtful.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 4 October 2023 20:32 (six months ago) link
this is the kind of thing that REALLY hurts him, where the sun don't shine
Donald Trump drops off Forbes 400 list of wealthiest people in the US
― Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 4 October 2023 20:36 (six months ago) link
Are we really making fun of poor people now?
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Wednesday, 4 October 2023 20:39 (six months ago) link
Did anyone itt call Trump gay? I'd like to know sooner than later
― peanut filibuster parfait (Eric H.), Wednesday, 4 October 2023 20:43 (six months ago) link
I think 'camp' has come up a few times, but that's different
― Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 4 October 2023 20:50 (six months ago) link
We've talked about him being mentally ill, addicted to substances, old. We've shamed his parenting.
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Wednesday, 4 October 2023 21:00 (six months ago) link
Orange.
― The First Time Ever I Saw Gervais (Tom D.), Wednesday, 4 October 2023 21:01 (six months ago) link
2scoops is the michael jackson reanimated corpse endgame the shallow as a december puddle that should be ice the US has earned
benghazi
― reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 4 October 2023 21:10 (six months ago) link
I did say that he should die choking on Putin's cock. Nobody seemed to mind though, I'm assuming because it was more about his exile & death than it was about homoeroticism.
― BrianB, Wednesday, 4 October 2023 21:14 (six months ago) link
shittest Brian B ever
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 4 October 2023 21:16 (six months ago) link
We've shamed his parenting.
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Wednesday, October 4, 2023 4:00 PM (seventeen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
What parenting? The only love he's shown for his children has been of the very unwholesome and inappropriate variety.
― Prop Dramedy (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 4 October 2023 21:20 (six months ago) link
BrianB kudos to you for like deliberately not reading what the actual criticism was like three times now.
anyways calzino is otm with this
xxxxphe's definitely not reading this though, is he? whereas there are people reading this that find that kind of speak hurtful.― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, October 4, 2023 4:32 PM bookmarkflaglink
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, October 4, 2023 4:32 PM bookmarkflaglink
― real warm grandpa (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 4 October 2023 21:41 (six months ago) link
It's not really any different from telling a 'fat joke' and having a friend with obesity walk by and be hurt and you saying "oh I wasn't talking about YOU".
the 'being fat' is the joke and is, as such, punching down. making fun of Trump for lying about his weight seems to be more mocking him for lying about everything, even unimportant things, than the actual being fat. possibly borderline but at least I understand that better than 'hur hur when Trump sits around the house..." jokes.
(not saying I haven't ever been guilty of it either, but trying to be more mindful)
― real warm grandpa (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 4 October 2023 21:47 (six months ago) link
xpost Look, everyone has their own love language
Also now you’re kink shaming
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Wednesday, 4 October 2023 22:15 (six months ago) link
Have been off IlX for a while for self-preservation reasons and popped in today to see how everyone’s doing. I’ll see myself out till next year.
― Yelploaf, Wednesday, 4 October 2023 22:31 (six months ago) link
Aw, it's not that bad.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 4 October 2023 22:36 (six months ago) link
Fatshaming Trump seems pointless when we have a horrifying description of his penis as part of the public record.
― papal hotwife (milo z), Wednesday, 4 October 2023 22:43 (six months ago) link
The feelings of people saying that they are personally ok with fatphobic comments are not relevant, as it is changing the context and perspective.
Multiple people have said this makes them feel bad. Any decent person would drop it at that point. It's not weird at all to point out that fatphobia is not cool.
― felicity, Wednesday, 4 October 2023 22:55 (six months ago) link
Pointing out that Trump is hypocritical about fatshaming others is low-hanging fruit.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 4 October 2023 22:58 (six months ago) link
Also, you cannot seriously be making arguments about your own conduct by pointing to what Trump does.
The man is a racist, a rapist, and every flavor of horrible in between.
― felicity, Wednesday, 4 October 2023 23:02 (six months ago) link
A criminal, a con man, an authoritarian, a cancer in the body politic.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 4 October 2023 23:03 (six months ago) link
a fraud, a monger of slander of law clerks
― felicity, Wednesday, 4 October 2023 23:04 (six months ago) link
a short-fingered vulgarian
― henry s, Wednesday, 4 October 2023 23:06 (six months ago) link
Former President of The United States
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 4 October 2023 23:11 (six months ago) link
Terrified of stairs
― papal hotwife (milo z), Wednesday, 4 October 2023 23:14 (six months ago) link
Biden should challenge him to climb a ladder.
― papal hotwife (milo z), Wednesday, 4 October 2023 23:15 (six months ago) link
All around Dud
― BrianB, Wednesday, 4 October 2023 23:24 (six months ago) link
Give him a chance
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Wednesday, 4 October 2023 23:35 (six months ago) link
trump's struggles with his weight is the most humanizing and relatable thing about him.
― treeship., Wednesday, 4 October 2023 23:45 (six months ago) link
I just came home from the public library having checked out the book his niece Mary Trump wrote about him and their incredibly damaged family. I'm not sure how much of it I can stomach, but I'm going to give it a trial.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 4 October 2023 23:47 (six months ago) link
I don't know if he can handle another trial.
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 4 October 2023 23:48 (six months ago) link
it's annoying that this "trump" stuff is still going on. from an artistic point of view, his story should have ended when he was booed at the al smith dinner
― treeship., Wednesday, 4 October 2023 23:56 (six months ago) link
trump is a pathetic rich kid in fifth grade who got caught cheating on a test for the fifth time, threatening not to invite people to his birthday party. he and his guests are way outnumbered but the rest of us pretend otherwise
― reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 5 October 2023 00:17 (six months ago) link
we'd much rather critique and belittle each other than stand up together against the bully and his wannabes
same as it was
― reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 5 October 2023 00:20 (six months ago) link
― treeship., Wednesday, October 4, 2023 6:45 PM (thirty-three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
I mean the man famously eats pretty much nothing but fast food and doesn’t believe in exercise, if it’s a struggle he’s not putting up much of a fight
― frogbs, Thursday, 5 October 2023 00:20 (six months ago) link
Yeah, I don't think the guy is struggling at all, he thinks he is in the peak of health. In fact, iirc, isn't he even explicitly anti-exercise?
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 5 October 2023 00:26 (six months ago) link
Only trump policy I can get on board with
― H.P, Thursday, 5 October 2023 00:32 (six months ago) link
I think he has a theory that your heart has a finite number of beats and if you exercise you use them up quicker (not a joke)
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Thursday, 5 October 2023 00:35 (six months ago) link
Trump himself says that he is “not a big sleeper” (“I like three hours, four hours”) and professes a fondness for steak and McDonald’s. Other than golf, he considers exercise misguided, arguing that a person, like a battery, is born with a finite amount of energy.
― symsymsym, Thursday, 5 October 2023 01:16 (six months ago) link
^what an idiotic idea
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 5 October 2023 01:22 (six months ago) link
So he has spent his finite energy lying, grifting, committing crimes and generally making life miserable for anyone who comes into his orbit. Well done.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 5 October 2023 01:28 (six months ago) link
xp I dunno, he keeps going, and going, and going …
― peanut filibuster parfait (Eric H.), Thursday, 5 October 2023 01:28 (six months ago) link
fortunately it's his only idiotic idea
― symsymsym, Thursday, 5 October 2023 01:29 (six months ago) link
If i call him a fucking monster pls don’t argue me back
― i'd meet u where u are, but that place really sucks (Hunt3r), Thursday, 5 October 2023 01:43 (six months ago) link
You have to call him a Donster
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 5 October 2023 02:15 (six months ago) link
the finite number of beats thing isn’t totally insane, peak athletes have very low resting heart rates and you could just come up with a silly idea about that
― ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Thursday, 5 October 2023 03:46 (six months ago) link
I assume it was the premise of a Steve Seagal movie that he heard parts of between fast forwarding between action scenes
― ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Thursday, 5 October 2023 03:47 (six months ago) link
Too many beats
― real warm grandpa (Neanderthal), Thursday, 5 October 2023 04:41 (six months ago) link
Other than golf, he considers exercise misguided, arguing that a person, like a battery, is born with a finite amount of energy.
Trump's going to lose his mind when someone tells him about rechargeable batteries.
― Portsmouth Bubblejet, Thursday, 5 October 2023 08:30 (six months ago) link
all the trump insults and fantasies are kind of sad, but understandable
― lag∞n, Thursday, 5 October 2023 17:05 (six months ago) link
speaking of trump fantasies
NEWS: Trump is considering a visit to the Capitol early next week where *he is open to pitching himself as a speaker candidate,* according to a R familiar.https://t.co/HK0KSRrzZ3— Sarah Ferris (@sarahnferris) October 5, 2023
― lag∞n, Thursday, 5 October 2023 17:07 (six months ago) link
he really thinks he can bail himself out of his legal trouble with this
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Thursday, 5 October 2023 17:10 (six months ago) link
What happens to you if you’re a Republican congressman and you don’t vote Trump for Speaker?
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Thursday, 5 October 2023 17:14 (six months ago) link
The answer, my friend
― real warm grandpa (Neanderthal), Thursday, 5 October 2023 17:28 (six months ago) link
this country is so, so embarrassing
― omar little, Thursday, 5 October 2023 17:32 (six months ago) link
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes),
He treats you like a KFC biscuit and slops you down.
― hat trick of trashiness (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 5 October 2023 17:37 (six months ago) link
Meanwhile on the toady front, Lindell can do a tour with Rudy begging for change with a tin cup
https://www.politico.com/news/2023/10/05/lawyers-bail-on-mypillows-michael-lindell-owes-millions-00120174
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 5 October 2023 18:32 (six months ago) link
Trump is considering a visit to the Capitol early next week where *he is open to pitching himself as a speaker candidate
Like his large, complex, detailed but irrefutable report that was going to totally exonerate him, I suspect this is yet another idle thought that flitted through what passes for his brain and out his sound-making hole. He knows how to keep himself in the daily news cycle by spewing random bullshit, I'll grant him that.
― Large, Complex, Detailed but Irrefutable POST (Dan Peterson), Thursday, 5 October 2023 18:36 (six months ago) link
Being Speaker is a thankless miserable job, I hope they elect him.
― papal hotwife (milo z), Thursday, 5 October 2023 18:42 (six months ago) link
I hear you get a hidden cubbyhole though
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Thursday, 5 October 2023 18:46 (six months ago) link
does he even know what Speaker of the House does
― frogbs, Thursday, 5 October 2023 18:51 (six months ago) link
he speaks
― hat trick of trashiness (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 5 October 2023 18:52 (six months ago) link
he probably thinks the Speaker gets to talk a lot, hence the name... something he's quite comfortable with
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 5 October 2023 18:52 (six months ago) link
Pelosi sold a lot of NFT's while she was Speaker, he wants to get in on that action
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 5 October 2023 18:54 (six months ago) link
https://www.gop.gov/conference-rules-of-the-118th-congress/
Rule 26—Temporary Step Aside of a Member of Leadership who is Indicted(a) A member of the Republican Leadership shall step aside if indicted for a felony for which a sentence of two or more years imprisonment may be imposed.
(a) A member of the Republican Leadership shall step aside if indicted for a felony for which a sentence of two or more years imprisonment may be imposed.
The GOP would have to change their own house rules to specifically allow someone indicted for a felony to serve, which scans terribly, which means they'd totally do it for Trump.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 5 October 2023 18:54 (six months ago) link
In January people were floating the idea that they could make Trump Speaker then impeach Biden and Harris so Trump would be President again
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Thursday, 5 October 2023 18:56 (six months ago) link
The Senate might go along. Who knows?
I don't think the Senate has a say
― a (waterface), Thursday, 5 October 2023 19:48 (six months ago) link
Not with the election for speaker, but with the fantasy double impeachment Pres. K. speaks of.
― The Royal House of Hangover (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 5 October 2023 19:55 (six months ago) link
ah gotcha.
I'd say this isn't going to happen but I didn't expect people to storm the Capitol either. The problem is, if they do elect him he's not gonna do shit and then when they try and kick him out he's not gonna leave
― a (waterface), Thursday, 5 October 2023 20:04 (six months ago) link
How can you kick out the greatest Speaker of all time?
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Thursday, 5 October 2023 20:05 (six months ago) link
I could see him having a talent for whipping votes through sheer intimidation, but he'd have to show up and do all the other stuff for that to happen
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Thursday, 5 October 2023 20:07 (six months ago) link
One week as speaker would be more hours of labor than the rest of his life combined.
― papal hotwife (milo z), Thursday, 5 October 2023 20:09 (six months ago) link
he'd just stay at Mar-a-Lago, hand over the real work to the Freedom Caucus. he could find plenty of willing dogsbodies to wield the gavel on a day-to-day basis. and, yes, once in he'd never permit a vote to kick him out.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 5 October 2023 20:17 (six months ago) link
Trump lawyers trying to get the Jan 6th indictment tossed since the coup attempt was part of 'official duties':
“Here, 234 years of unbroken historical practice — from 1789 until 2023 — provide compelling evidence that the power to indict a former president for his official acts does not exist,” they wrote.
The fucking GALL of '234 years of unbroken practice' when he was the first dickwad in those centuries to try and block the peaceful transition, JFC
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 5 October 2023 20:19 (six months ago) link
I’m not sure I have ever seen a sadder tweet than this. https://t.co/aqxewpLATd— Tim Nicolai (@tim_nicolai) October 5, 2023
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 5 October 2023 20:42 (six months ago) link
Even as they wrote that they knew it was nonsense and that no court is going to accept that argument. The question of whether there was any legitimacy to Trump's claims of election fraud has already been litigated and disposed of when he lost more than 60 court cases attempting to establish those claims and did not win once. That puts his efforts on January 6 far outside of any official duties and places his actions squarely in the realm of abrogating his oath of office.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 5 October 2023 21:01 (six months ago) link
Right, "Trump's official acts" is both A: desperate and B: all they've got.
― Large, Complex, Detailed but Irrefutable POST (Dan Peterson), Thursday, 5 October 2023 21:24 (six months ago) link
My Pillow dude deserves no sympathy, but this exhausted, dejected clip of him is, in every sense of the word, actually, to coin a phrase, sad:
Lindell is broke, basically. He did it to himself pic.twitter.com/ZcPUKCpxcS— Bradley P. Moss (@BradMossEsq) October 5, 2023
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 5 October 2023 21:31 (six months ago) link
then why don't I feel sad?
also, the fact that his lawyers took his case looks to me like prima facie evidence that their primary interest was billable hours. they should have been urging him to settle from the first day and every day after and when he consistently refused that advice, they should have resigned, not waiting until he ran out of money.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 5 October 2023 21:42 (six months ago) link
Wow I know that dude (Brad Moss, I mean, not Pillow Guy)
― The Royal House of Hangover (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 5 October 2023 21:44 (six months ago) link
Yeah, I mean, I'm not sad, it's just rare that you see any of these losers minus the overconfident swagger.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 5 October 2023 21:54 (six months ago) link
I remain astonished at Trump's ability to get people to immolate themselves for him.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 5 October 2023 21:55 (six months ago) link
I've seen the argument that a bunch of hollow people wanting their lives to be exciting basically attached themselves to him for just that and well, there ya go, it's exciting.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 5 October 2023 22:12 (six months ago) link
Sure, you think you're part of something until you realize you're just a smoldering husk on the side of a very long road.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 5 October 2023 22:14 (six months ago) link
Lindell also blew a bunch of his own cash make weird documentaries and live presentations about the 'big steal' mythos, so it's hard to be too sympathetic to his current plight
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 5 October 2023 22:26 (six months ago) link
"all the lawyers we have for mypillow and myself"
― lag∞n, Thursday, 5 October 2023 22:38 (six months ago) link
yeah, few have self immolated quite he did. overcame a substance abuse problem, had a successful pillow company, blew away his success in service of one of the biggest assholes in history.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 5 October 2023 22:47 (six months ago) link
OurPillows, Ourselves
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Thursday, 5 October 2023 22:49 (six months ago) link
What happened to the overstock.com guy? He went over the edge too didn't he? I suppose Rudy has fallen as far as anyone could possibly fall, but he was always a sleaze bag, just shifted to full wacky dgaf mode, to no apparent gain.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 5 October 2023 23:08 (six months ago) link
he's not part of that company anymore, I don't know... I think they bought BB&B and are rebranding that way, they don't just do overstocky stuff anymore
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 5 October 2023 23:14 (six months ago) link
There was a whole podcast about him and his Russian girlfriend.
Trump attracts grifters like shit attracts flies.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 5 October 2023 23:26 (six months ago) link
Game recognize game vs. blood in the water.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 5 October 2023 23:30 (six months ago) link
I think Lara Trump is starting to release music? They should all release albums.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 5 October 2023 23:31 (six months ago) link
Apple Music is censoring HER song “I Won’t Back Down”
If you search for it you just see the version by this Tom Petty guy
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Thursday, 5 October 2023 23:48 (six months ago) link
Eric T. And Rakim
― The Royal House of Hangover (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 5 October 2023 23:49 (six months ago) link
Hey, @Apple — where is my song??? Why doesn’t my song appear when you search “I Won’t Back Down”??? pic.twitter.com/CugiZggxOY— Lara Trump (@LaraLeaTrump) September 29, 2023
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Thursday, 5 October 2023 23:50 (six months ago) link
who is LARA trump?
Nevermind, I don't wanna know
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 5 October 2023 23:52 (six months ago) link
Heartbreakers/Trump collab Petty Larceny just dropped
― The Royal House of Hangover (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 5 October 2023 23:52 (six months ago) link
You don’t have to welcome a refugee
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Thursday, 5 October 2023 23:55 (six months ago) link
He was
An American ghoul
― The Royal House of Hangover (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 5 October 2023 23:59 (six months ago) link
the hating is the hardest part
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 6 October 2023 00:00 (six months ago) link
Damn the TrumpSpeedos
― The Royal House of Hangover (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 6 October 2023 00:00 (six months ago) link
Free fraudin'
― The Royal House of Hangover (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 6 October 2023 00:01 (six months ago) link
^^^ these are pure gold
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 6 October 2023 00:02 (six months ago) link
Tweeter and the MAGA man
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Friday, 6 October 2023 00:04 (six months ago) link
stop draggin' Old Fart around
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 6 October 2023 00:09 (six months ago) link
You Insurrect Me
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 6 October 2023 00:30 (six months ago) link
Kellyanne's Last Dance
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 6 October 2023 00:32 (six months ago) link
Yearning to Lie
― The Royal House of Hangover (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 6 October 2023 00:41 (six months ago) link
Lol at all the morons on Twitter saying it's because she didn't have permission to cover the song, which is 100% not required, and not realizing her version is on there, just not in the first list of results
― real warm grandpa (Neanderthal), Friday, 6 October 2023 00:48 (six months ago) link
Run Down Regime
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 6 October 2023 00:58 (six months ago) link
Even The Losers
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 6 October 2023 01:01 (six months ago) link
Get Elected Sometimes
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Friday, 6 October 2023 01:14 (six months ago) link
Just in: Trump has voluntarily dismissed his $500 million lawsuit against Michael Cohen in Florida without prejudice, per filing.— Hugo Lowell (@hugolowell) October 6, 2023
What a pussy.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 6 October 2023 01:15 (six months ago) link
Don't Sue Me Like That
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Friday, 6 October 2023 01:16 (six months ago) link
lollll
― out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Friday, 6 October 2023 01:17 (six months ago) link
Gee, I guess he really didn't want to testify
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Friday, 6 October 2023 01:34 (six months ago) link
excelsior threadin'
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 6 October 2023 01:36 (six months ago) link
hmmm. maybe having close to 100 felony indictments in multiple court venues, along with a pending civil suit for libel filed by the woman who just won a similar suit against him might cause Trump to cut back a bit on his habit of pursuing frivolous law suits
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 6 October 2023 01:39 (six months ago) link
I move that all pending suits be moved to Judge Judy's court and be argued simultaneously
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 6 October 2023 01:40 (six months ago) link
https://images.firstpost.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/AI-generated-photos-of-former-President-Trump-getting-arrested-7.jpg
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 6 October 2023 01:43 (six months ago) link
Don’t Coup Around Here No More
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Friday, 6 October 2023 02:27 (six months ago) link
The Last DOJ
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 6 October 2023 02:51 (six months ago) link
Damn the Torpedoes (that I told that Australian billionaire about)
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 6 October 2023 03:03 (six months ago) link
After all it was a great big world,With lots of shithole countries to run to
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Friday, 6 October 2023 03:08 (six months ago) link
Is that from the iconic song "American Girth"?
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 6 October 2023 03:10 (six months ago) link
bro pls stop talking about his girth 🙏
― the wind beneath my wang (cat), Friday, 6 October 2023 03:22 (six months ago) link
Yeah, sorry, I honestly saw the pun first and didn't think beyond that.
Though I do think one of the guy's most identifiable traits is he is just kind of big and lumbering. Nothing even to do with his weight, per se, he's just generally big and tall and seems to hulk over those around him (partly by design, due to the alleged lifts, but also the way he leans kind of up and forward, a compulsion to look aggressive and alpha). When I see him sitting at trial he kinda looks like an adult sitting uncomfortably at the kids table.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 6 October 2023 12:38 (six months ago) link
Front half of centaur, as has been pointed out. Although I didn’t know centaurs had their assholes at the front
― assert (matttkkkk), Friday, 6 October 2023 12:50 (six months ago) link
Half-asshole, half horse's ass.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 6 October 2023 12:52 (six months ago) link
One of my big Trump memories was channel surfing 15-20 years ago and landing on one of his beauty pageants, seeing him sitting strategically for camera attention a couple rows behind the judges, looking disgruntled and what at the time I took to be 'roided out, a huge body wrapped in a ill-fitting tux topped by a tiny head.
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 6 October 2023 13:01 (six months ago) link
Yeah same deal as his bro Vince:
https://imagez.tmz.com/image/a3/4by3/2022/07/22/a3e6da4182c746f681b9b96e4bae7560_md.jpg
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 6 October 2023 13:09 (six months ago) link
Son & Husband of immigrants on immigrants:
“Nobody has any idea where these people are coming from, and we know they come from prisons,” said the former president. “We know they come from mental institutions, insane asylums. We know they’re terrorists.“Nobody has ever seen anything like we’re witnessing right now. It is a very sad thing for our country. It’s poisoning the blood of our country. It’s so bad, and people are coming in with disease. People are coming in with every possible thing that you could have.”
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 6 October 2023 22:53 (six months ago) link
Trump, just white supremin' on a Friday.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 6 October 2023 22:58 (six months ago) link
"poisoning the blood of our country", this has to be a Stephen Miller line, going full Mein Kampf
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 6 October 2023 23:03 (six months ago) link
that is what I was thinking
― Dan S, Friday, 6 October 2023 23:14 (six months ago) link
It's a pretty clear callout to his white nationalist supporters.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 6 October 2023 23:16 (six months ago) link
A lot got made of one of his gang of incompetent lawyers, Alina Habba, turning up in court with a gaming laptop, the "2070ti asus laptop with the blue underglow". It's probably more of a tell that it was possibly she who didn't check the jury trial box on the form. Not being sexist here, it could have been another one that fucked that up. But fair to say she doesn't project legal competence by insisting it has been a "strong week" for him.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 6 October 2023 23:17 (six months ago) link
There's a group of billboard/ambulance-chasing personal injury attorneys called Habbas that advertise here in the Bay Area.. wonder if she's a relation
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 6 October 2023 23:19 (six months ago) link
Into the Great White Colon
― felicity, Friday, 6 October 2023 23:20 (six months ago) link
the "nobody has ever seen anything like this before" "no one has ever heard of this" thing might be my least favorite Trump rhetorical tic
― c u (crüt), Friday, 6 October 2023 23:23 (six months ago) link
"people come up to me, people come to me and they tell me, 'Sir, sir'" is probably my least favorite
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 6 October 2023 23:28 (six months ago) link
Yes, big, strong men with tears in their eyes. Does anyone believe that?
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 6 October 2023 23:31 (six months ago) link
A lot got made of one of his gang of incompetent lawyers, Alina Habba,
Ali Baba?
― hat trick of trashiness (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 6 October 2023 23:32 (six months ago) link
tbf, Trump will often insert a parenthetical "can you believe it?" into these stories to emphasize just how unbelievable they are. obviously he's a man to whom unbelievable things happen as often as they are needed to prove whatever point he wishes to make.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 6 October 2023 23:35 (six months ago) link
Maybe they *are* all going to put out albums.
hello. i am paralyzed and literally cannot breathe send help… 🤣oh my god… i haven’t touched anything… https://t.co/sgL07Dhh62 pic.twitter.com/nTGwI7PHPk— Jim Stewartson, Anti-disinfo activist 🇺🇸🇺🇦💙 (@jimstewartson) October 6, 2023
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 7 October 2023 04:41 (six months ago) link
Give it a couple years and Lauren Boebert will have more #1s than Elvis
― insert nothing here (Eric H.), Saturday, 7 October 2023 15:20 (six months ago) link
Number one with a Boebert.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 7 October 2023 15:25 (six months ago) link
She go from getting kicked out of Beetlejuice to starring in touring company of Beetlejuice.
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 7 October 2023 15:29 (six months ago) link
Based on her McCarthy vote, we do know she's very much "jump in the line" at this point
― insert nothing here (Eric H.), Saturday, 7 October 2023 15:32 (six months ago) link
Banana fana boebert
― The Royal House of Hangover (Ye Mad Puffin), Saturday, 7 October 2023 17:41 (six months ago) link
Trump on Hannibal Lecter: You know why I like him? Because he said on television “I love Donald Trump” so I love him pic.twitter.com/1jYyXKFkjI— Acyn (@Acyn) October 7, 2023
― lag∞n, Monday, 9 October 2023 02:21 (six months ago) link
Good to see he can still stay on message.
― epistantophus, Monday, 9 October 2023 02:56 (six months ago) link
Two great gourmands
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Monday, 9 October 2023 03:08 (six months ago) link
Has anyone seen Silence of the Lambs?
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 9 October 2023 20:19 (six months ago) link
Yeah that guy should def be president again
― tobo73, Monday, 9 October 2023 20:23 (six months ago) link
think he's a bigger fan of Triumph of the Will
― real warm grandpa (Neanderthal), Monday, 9 October 2023 20:47 (six months ago) link
"Hannibal Lecter, how great an actor was he?"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Ck-09fvlpI
― Large, Complex, Detailed but Irrefutable POST (Dan Peterson), Monday, 9 October 2023 21:09 (six months ago) link
I'll admit that, as a person who is opposed to every aspect of his existence, I'm occasionally overly eager to go for the 'what a fucking moron' GOTCHA! at times when the facts perhaps don't necessarily warrant a GOTCHA!, but in this instance, it really does not seem like he's capable of separating the character from the actor who plays the character. I'm genuinely unconvinced that he's aware of the difference.
― Prop Dramedy (Old Lunch), Monday, 9 October 2023 21:16 (six months ago) link
remember when he thought Vince McMahon died in a car explosion because of a WWE storyline?
― omar little, Monday, 9 October 2023 21:31 (six months ago) link
xp That was my thought as well.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 9 October 2023 22:07 (six months ago) link
Curious as to when & why Hopkins said he liked Trump.
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 9 October 2023 22:19 (six months ago) link
No, no, Hannibal Lecter said that.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 9 October 2023 22:21 (six months ago) link
Well of course he did...
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 9 October 2023 22:34 (six months ago) link
With fava beans and a nice Chianti.
― nickn, Monday, 9 October 2023 22:43 (six months ago) link
seems like it was
Mads Mikkelsen said in a 2016 CBS News interview that he had no idea what to think about Donald Trump as he had never met him.
"He’s obviously not the classic politician, that’s for sure. I can definitely laugh at some of the stuff he says but I can also go, 'Oh my God, did he say that?' I think he’s a fresh wind for some people, but that’s what you’re voting for, I guess, right? It’s a big job," he said.
https://www.sportskeeda.com/pop-culture/fact-check-did-hannibal-lecter-say-loves-donald-trump-anthony-hopkins-claim-debunked
― lag∞n, Monday, 9 October 2023 22:47 (six months ago) link
"I love Mad Max's son for what he said abou me. And that other Austrian, you know, Jack Hughman."
― nashwan, Monday, 9 October 2023 22:59 (six months ago) link
lol, no surprise it wasn't one of the supremo luvvie melts Hopkins or Cox
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 9 October 2023 23:03 (six months ago) link
The simplest explanation is that Trump forgot Anthony Hopkins' name so he substituted the name of the one role he played that everyone instantly recognizes. Chances are if he'd said "Anthony Hopkins" instead of "Hannibal Lector" fewer people in the audience would have known just who he was talking about anyway.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Monday, 9 October 2023 23:16 (six months ago) link
Surprised he didn't say Hannibal Buress
― real warm grandpa (Neanderthal), Monday, 9 October 2023 23:27 (six months ago) link
Like he knows the names of any Black people
― the new drip king (DJP), Monday, 9 October 2023 23:32 (six months ago) link
The simplest explanation is that Trump forgot Anthony Hopkins' namehow is this the simplest explanation when it was Mikkelsen
― vashti funyuns (sic), Monday, 9 October 2023 23:44 (six months ago) link
He knows Ginni Thomas is on the Supreme Court.
― hat trick of trashiness (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 9 October 2023 23:48 (six months ago) link
OK. I'm guessing Trump has no idea that there was a Lector-based TV series or that more than one actor ever played the part, so he probably thought all along it was Hopkins who said something nice about him. After all, who has time for all these unimportant details, when the only important or interesting thing was that the guy who played Lector knows how great he (Trump) is. The other details never mattered. Also, Trump forgot Hopkins' name. It didn't matter either.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Monday, 9 October 2023 23:55 (six months ago) link
Who did Dexter endorse?
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Tuesday, 10 October 2023 00:08 (six months ago) link
Gary Johnson
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 10 October 2023 00:30 (six months ago) link
i think he knew it wasnt hopkins but wanted people to think it was
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 10 October 2023 00:31 (six months ago) link
i mean if theres one thing trump understands its the relative prestige of various actors
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 10 October 2023 00:32 (six months ago) link
im even willing to entertain the idea that he knows mads mikkelsens name because he no doubt really likes it when a celebrity says something nice about him even if theyre just being polite
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 10 October 2023 00:35 (six months ago) link
Lecktor with an O was Cox. This is getting simpler by the minute!
― vashti funyuns (sic), Tuesday, 10 October 2023 10:11 (six months ago) link
another mindblowing session at the hannibal lectern
― ivy., Tuesday, 10 October 2023 13:24 (six months ago) link
"The Presidential oath, which the framers of the Fourteenth Amendment surely knew, requires the President to swear to 'preserve, protect and defend' the Constitution — not to 'support' the Constitution," said the filing by Trump's attorneys. "Because the framers chose to define the group of people subject to Section Three by an oath to 'support' the Constitution of the United States, and not by an oath to 'preserve, protect and defend' the Constitution, the framers of the Fourteenth Amendment never intended for it to apply to the President."
― earlnash, Thursday, 12 October 2023 00:39 (six months ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/Todb89h.jpg
― hat trick of trashiness (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 12 October 2023 00:45 (six months ago) link
Cool strategy to try in court
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Thursday, 12 October 2023 00:51 (six months ago) link
Trump claims Biden is letting terrorists into the country because “Barack Hussein Obama” and just repeats the name over and over again before saying the capital of the United States looks like “shit” pic.twitter.com/9xkxqcEOCs— Acyn (@Acyn) October 12, 2023
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 12 October 2023 01:17 (six months ago) link
doin good not a care in the world
― lag∞n, Thursday, 12 October 2023 01:20 (six months ago) link
Someone’s been tinkering with the dosages I see
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 12 October 2023 01:56 (six months ago) link
wonder if this kind of shit is gonna play well in the general
― frogbs, Thursday, 12 October 2023 01:59 (six months ago) link
I thought his supporters liked shit in the capitol!
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 12 October 2023 02:16 (six months ago) link
Muslim-bashing is cool again obv.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 12 October 2023 02:34 (six months ago) link
Big applause line there
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 12 October 2023 13:49 (six months ago) link
Elsewhere, per the NYT, strange things are afoot:
Steven C. Lee, an Illinois pastor charged in the Georgia election interference case against Donald J. Trump and his allies, is hoping to fund his legal defense, at least in part, with sales of “MAGA honey” bottles shaped like the former president.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 12 October 2023 18:26 (six months ago) link
a wide selection then
― hat trick of trashiness (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 12 October 2023 18:27 (six months ago) link
This is delightful, BTW:
One of Mr. Chesebro’s lawyers, Manubir S. Arora, set up a GiveSendGo page for his client that says Mr. Chesebro is being buried “under a mountain of legal bills.” Mr. Chesebro is shown smiling on a beach, hands outstretched. As of Wednesday afternoon, the campaign had raised $20.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 12 October 2023 18:42 (six months ago) link
Moneyplease.gif
― Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Thursday, 12 October 2023 18:56 (six months ago) link
Chesebros gonna chesebro
― Lavator Shemmelpennick, Thursday, 12 October 2023 19:01 (six months ago) link
this new line of thinking will take him far:
Speaking in Florida on Wednesday, Trump, the Republican frontrunner to take on Biden next year, called Hezbollah – a Lebanese group also backed by Iran and supportive of Hamas – “very smart” and the Israeli defense minister, Yoav Gallant, “a jerk”.
Benjamin Netanyahu, the Israeli prime minister, had been “hurt very badly”, Trump said, adding: “He was not prepared. He was not prepared and Israel was not prepared. And under Trump, they wouldn’t have had to be prepared. You know, Hezbollah is very smart. They’re all very smart.”
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 12 October 2023 19:05 (six months ago) link
"if the election wasn't rigged there would be nobody thinking about going into Israel"
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 12 October 2023 19:18 (six months ago) link
"All the time, I have these militants, these Islamic militants, you know these guys? Right? with the beards and the rifles... And they come up to me, they come up and say 'sir, sir'..."
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 12 October 2023 19:39 (six months ago) link
One of Mr. Chesebro’s lawyers, Manubir S. Arora, set up a GiveSendGo page for his client that says Mr. Chesebro is being buried “under a mountain of legal bills.” Mr. Chesebro is shown smiling on a beach, hands outstretched. As of Wednesday afternoon, the campaign had raised $20.― Ned Raggett, Thursday, October 12, 2023 1:42 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
― The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 12 October 2023 19:51 (six months ago) link
That’s enough for coffee for his lawyer and lawyer’s assistant, so that’s something, right
― The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 12 October 2023 19:52 (six months ago) link
tbh Manubir S. Arora sounds like the name on one of those "Nigerian prince" emails I'm always getting.
― Large, Complex, Detailed but Irrefutable POST (Dan Peterson), Thursday, 12 October 2023 19:58 (six months ago) link
wonder how many people will end up incarcerated over jan 6/election conspiracy they really got carried away just started doing crimes right out in the open
― lag∞n, Thursday, 12 October 2023 20:00 (six months ago) link
xxp if anyone can order a coffee that costs more than $10, it's a lawyer, not sure $20 is gonna cover the two of them unless they don't tip ;)
― out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Thursday, 12 October 2023 20:01 (six months ago) link
― real warm grandpa (Neanderthal), Thursday, 12 October 2023 20:03 (six months ago) link
say cheese, bro
― Lumpy pillows, kiss my ass. Put that in your book (stevie), Thursday, 12 October 2023 20:50 (six months ago) link
Stay fresh, cheesebags
― epistantophus, Thursday, 12 October 2023 20:51 (six months ago) link
I’m not a Chesebro/I stack cheeeeeese, bro
― The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 12 October 2023 21:01 (six months ago) link
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 12 October 2023 21:45 (six months ago) link
those names sound even les real than these: https://i.imgur.com/yC4qdm6.png
― StanM, Friday, 13 October 2023 04:28 (six months ago) link
less
Les Real should be one of those names
― Lumpy pillows, kiss my ass. Put that in your book (stevie), Friday, 13 October 2023 08:22 (six months ago) link
Tag yourself, I think I'm Bobson Dugnutt.
― The Royal House of Hangover (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 13 October 2023 13:28 (six months ago) link
Dwight Rortugal
― Dwight Rortugal (Eric H.), Friday, 13 October 2023 13:38 (six months ago) link
Say it in a Scooby Doo voice.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 13 October 2023 13:42 (six months ago) link
can't believe I misspelled my own natural-born name of four decades
― Dwigt Rortugal (Eric H.), Friday, 13 October 2023 13:49 (six months ago) link
Jeromy Gride
Gride: to scrape, graze, or rub against something so as to produce a harsh rasping sound
― kiwi side-eye specialist (Matt #2), Friday, 13 October 2023 13:56 (six months ago) link
We named our robot vacuum Todd Bonzalez — he's our clean-up man.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Friday, 13 October 2023 13:59 (six months ago) link
Got a few altered 90s hockey surnames amongst that list
― Hongro Hongro Hippies (Myonga Vön Bontee), Friday, 13 October 2023 14:31 (six months ago) link
Glenallen Mixon sounds like a journeyman utility infielder who never got past AA in the farm system during the Reagan administration.
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 13 October 2023 14:32 (six months ago) link
I thought he sounded like a Civil War general.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 13 October 2023 14:35 (six months ago) link
https://www.vice.com/en/article/wxj43x/trumps-secret-documents-case-just-got-worse-for-him
feel like the odds of serious consequences are gonna go way up if they can actually figure out why exactly he wanted those documents
― frogbs, Friday, 13 October 2023 17:04 (six months ago) link
I'm less optimistic about the documents case because I think the judge will probably delay as much as possible and ultimately throw it out
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Friday, 13 October 2023 17:08 (six months ago) link
"Robin........ itturnsoutthat...the documents he got indicted for retaining and concealing are......the documents he retained to prevent himself FROM BEING PUNISHED FOR STEALING!" "GREAT SMOKES BATMAN IT IS INGENIOUS!"
― i'd meet u where u are, but that place really sucks (Hunt3r), Friday, 13 October 2023 18:31 (six months ago) link
JUST IN: Judge Howell orders that the jury in Rudy Giuliani’s upcoming civil defamation damages trial be instructed that Giuliani intentionally tried to hide information about his financial condition. pic.twitter.com/WshWWygWWj— Kyle Cheney (@kyledcheney) October 13, 2023
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 13 October 2023 23:00 (six months ago) link
Judge Chutkan issued a partial gag order in the Jan 6 case restricting Trump from making or reposting comments that attack the prosecutors, the court, or any witnesses.
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Monday, 16 October 2023 16:39 (six months ago) link
I'm sure that'll hold for approximately 15 minutes
― Dwigt Rortugal (Eric H.), Monday, 16 October 2023 16:54 (six months ago) link
ok?
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Monday, 16 October 2023 16:57 (six months ago) link
You might be surprised -- the official statement is, notably and hilariously, venting in terms that absolutely fit the contours of the order as Chutkan specified:
“Today’s decision is an absolute abomination and another partisan knife stuck in the heart of our Democracy by Crooked Joe Biden, who was granted the right to muzzle his political opponent, the leading candidate for the Presidency in 2024, and the most popular political leader in America, President Donald J. Trump. President Trump will continue to fight for our Constitution, the American people’s right to support him, and to keep our country free of the chains of weaponized and targeted law enforcement.”
No mention of Smith, the court, etc. but as Chutkan specifically allowed for, venting re Biden and the general situation perfectly fine. (Again, how long this lasts, who knows.)
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 16 October 2023 18:01 (six months ago) link
trump has plenty of practice at making his thoughts perfectly visible even though they're swaddled inside a cocoon of vagueness and apparent ambiguity.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Monday, 16 October 2023 18:06 (six months ago) link
Oh sure! And one suspects that all sides understand this.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 16 October 2023 18:06 (six months ago) link
He may continue to stick to the order, he may not. If he doesn't, it's not as if the judge will just throw up her hands in frustration and let it happen. We need to drop this self-defeatist fantasy that he is absolutely invulnerable to any consequences when he's been on a losing streak since 2020.
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Monday, 16 October 2023 18:08 (six months ago) link
We need to drop this self-defeatist fantasy that he is absolutely invulnerable to any consequences
I think you're reading much more into the past few posts than what they said.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Monday, 16 October 2023 18:16 (six months ago) link
Not necessarily a response to anything specific on here, just the general vibe that the Judge's actions and various other things aren't punitive enough or that nothing will ever change or there's never any consequences. It wasn't aimed at anything you or Ned said.
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Monday, 16 October 2023 18:22 (six months ago) link
The speech is rapidly deteriorating as the show goes on. pic.twitter.com/5fQylo4VmD— Ron Filipkowski (@RonFilipkowski) October 17, 2023
last time I saw something like this it was a news anchor having a stroke on live TV
― frogbs, Wednesday, 18 October 2023 02:27 (six months ago) link
yeah that is very odd
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 18 October 2023 02:29 (six months ago) link
can't wait til this fucker drops dead on stage
― out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Wednesday, 18 October 2023 02:32 (six months ago) link
I don't have an ounce of sympathy for him but man his dad's political career appears to have wrecked his life. during the 2016 RNC I remember him giving a speech and thinking he was actually a pretty decent speaker who came off fairly sharp. like in a "oh fuck, this one's gonna get into politics too" sort of way. but every year he's gotten progressively worse and every time I've seen him lately he's just looked extremely unwell. even his dad still looks like he's sometimes having fun but Jr. comes off like one of those dudes from the end of Boogie Nights. and he keeps going after Hunter too, constantly describing him as a guy who meets the exact description as the man in the mirror
― frogbs, Wednesday, 18 October 2023 02:41 (six months ago) link
DJTJ's Car/Life Crash
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 18 October 2023 03:05 (six months ago) link
when you step back its a pretty amazing story they really flew too close to the sun
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 18 October 2023 03:11 (six months ago) link
funny detail jared kushner off to the side collecting billions of dollars in kicksbacks from the saudis while the trump boys are in court having their businesses shut down and so forth
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 18 October 2023 03:13 (six months ago) link
constantly describing him as a guy who meets the exact description as the man in the mirror
point of order: Hunter's dad actually loves him
― Yngwie Azalea (stevie), Wednesday, 18 October 2023 10:17 (six months ago) link
"Honomership!"
https://loveincorporated.blob.core.windows.net/contentimages/gallery/6a3228a0-8ff3-4c1e-b46c-573e739fd46e-lead-florida-trump-jr-roundel.jpg
― Large, Complex, Detailed but Irrefutable POST (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 18 October 2023 16:11 (six months ago) link
Built completely out of cocaine bricks.
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 18 October 2023 16:14 (six months ago) link
that's why it's best advice to have a couple beers before the interview, not four Jack & Cokes
― Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 18 October 2023 16:35 (six months ago) link
so funny seeing him angrily losing it at the press conference about the Mar-a-Lago valuation "it's probably the most expensive property in the world" "it could be worth billions.."etc etc... From what I can gather it was zoned as a club to stave off bankruptcy and has scores of rich members who have paid a quarter of a million in subs. So really, he barely even owns it. Nothing new here - just me discovering this stuff for the first time.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 18 October 2023 16:37 (six months ago) link
yeah they were all circling much smaller nearby properties that sold for insane prices but just forgetting to mention that its zoned as a club and is in fact a club
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 18 October 2023 16:41 (six months ago) link
maybe you could get it rezoned put up a some mansions but even then it would be worth maybe a few hundred million tops not a billion, and it would cost a lot to get there
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 18 October 2023 16:43 (six months ago) link
so funny seeing him angrily losing it at the press conference about the Mar-a-Lago valuation "it's probably the most expensive property in the world" "it could be worth billions.."
even funnier considering he's literally on trial for exaggerating the value of his properties
― frogbs, Wednesday, 18 October 2023 16:48 (six months ago) link
Escaping from one shark tank into a different shark tank
― The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 18 October 2023 16:51 (six months ago) link
i can't believe he said that he would go to jail to save democracy and that its actually a true statement! inadvertently, but still...
― scott seward, Wednesday, 18 October 2023 17:25 (six months ago) link
uh oh, bad news for our guy
BREAKING: Sidney POWELL is in Fulton County court right now pleading guilty.— Kyle Cheney (@kyledcheney) October 19, 2023
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Thursday, 19 October 2023 14:02 (six months ago) link
She might be crazy, but apparently not all dumb.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 19 October 2023 14:07 (six months ago) link
oh dear, one of the nutjob true believers has flipped
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 19 October 2023 14:10 (six months ago) link
Under a deal announced Thursday in Fulton County Superior Court, she will receive six years probation and pay a $6,000 fine.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 19 October 2023 14:12 (six months ago) link
Release the checkbook
― real warm grandpa (Neanderthal), Thursday, 19 October 2023 14:16 (six months ago) link
I wonder what the terms of the probation are? She seems to have done a better job staying mum than my pillow guy, maybe I'm looking in the wrong places.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 19 October 2023 14:16 (six months ago) link
she had agreed to testify in future proceedings
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Thursday, 19 October 2023 14:17 (six months ago) link
Lol @ Neanderthal
Perhaps she can go into the landscaping business
― The Royal House of Hangover (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 19 October 2023 14:18 (six months ago) link
I'd presume there might be a domino effect of other rather shook indicted retrobates turning witness now. I heard in RICO cases the ones that get in early get the best deals (free pizzas!), and once this starts there is no stopping it.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 19 October 2023 14:29 (six months ago) link
Powell got a Starbucks card too.
― hat trick of trashiness (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 19 October 2023 14:30 (six months ago) link
The Maestro told her to say she'd take it.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 19 October 2023 14:35 (six months ago) link
is she still on the hook for the dominion libel/defamation case?
― Yngwie Azalea (stevie), Thursday, 19 October 2023 14:37 (six months ago) link
I don't believe that case was addressed as part of the plea agreement
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Thursday, 19 October 2023 14:41 (six months ago) link
No, it's separate. Like Trump, lots of separate lawsuits going on.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 19 October 2023 14:45 (six months ago) link
so crazy that you can get probation for trying to overthrow the government. america, what a country!
― scott seward, Thursday, 19 October 2023 14:50 (six months ago) link
I’m assuming she don’t just flip, she did like a triple back flip
― The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 19 October 2023 14:53 (six months ago) link
Didn’t, not don’t
― scott seward, Thursday, October 19, 2023 10:50 AM (nine minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
its a victimless crime
― lag∞n, Thursday, 19 October 2023 15:00 (six months ago) link
pretty sure Fani Willis would not recommend such a sentence unless she got the goods from Powell
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Thursday, 19 October 2023 15:04 (six months ago) link
Powell could also be disbarred as a result of the plea.
― il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Thursday, 19 October 2023 15:09 (six months ago) link
I certainly hope so!
― out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Thursday, 19 October 2023 15:15 (six months ago) link
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, October 19, 2023 9:29 AM (fifty-one minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
right I thought this is why you charge as many people as you can with RICO, if you get a few plea deals it makes it a lot easier to charge the primary conspirators
― frogbs, Thursday, 19 October 2023 15:21 (six months ago) link
yeah I think the idea is to get the more minor players to flip upwards against the big dogs of the conspiracy and it seems to be working
so now Powell is obligated to also cooperate with Jack Smith in the classified documents case if he wants to use her.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 19 October 2023 15:46 (six months ago) link
Yes to all the above, though it's less the classified docs case -- I don't think she had anything to do with that? -- and more the J6 case in DC.
Per the NYT:
She was also fined $6,000 and agreed to pay $2,700 restitution to the state of Georgia, as well as write an apology letter to its citizens.Prosecutors said in court that Ms. Powell had given them a recorded statement on Wednesday as part of her plea deal. She has agreed to testify against any of the 17 remaining defendants. Ms. Powell has also agreed to turn over documents in her possession related to the case.
Prosecutors said in court that Ms. Powell had given them a recorded statement on Wednesday as part of her plea deal. She has agreed to testify against any of the 17 remaining defendants. Ms. Powell has also agreed to turn over documents in her possession related to the case.
So yeah, Willis would not have agreed to anything in court without that statement already in hand, that's for sure.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 19 October 2023 15:50 (six months ago) link
oh yes the J6 case, such a dizzying array of cases I'm still getting them crossed occasionally!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 19 October 2023 15:55 (six months ago) link
as well as write an apology letter to its citizens
ha, that's like something you would have a fourth-grader do after the start a small grass fire
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 19 October 2023 16:35 (six months ago) link
She's gonna leave the courtroom and say "Trump wo-" before getting flattened by a guy pushing a catering cart in the hallway
― real warm grandpa (Neanderthal), Thursday, 19 October 2023 17:21 (six months ago) link
Biggest problem with making a plea deal in exchange for her testimony is that she's done so much flagrant lying in front of so many cameras that attacking her credibility will be child's play.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 20 October 2023 02:38 (six months ago) link
Yeah, the apology letter thing is bizarre...
― m0stly clean (Slowsquatch), Friday, 20 October 2023 02:51 (six months ago) link
She should have to hand deliver it to every Georgia voter.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Friday, 20 October 2023 04:01 (six months ago) link
isn't it more important how it plays to the jury? after all Trump elevated this conspiracy theory minded Qanon extremist into a prominent position in his legal team, so doesn't it sort of enhance the narrative of crackerjack cranks attempting to illegally reverse election results? I don't know tbh. She was present and actively involved in pivotal moments of the conspiracy and oddly I think she could end up being quite a credible witness. Fani Willis seems formidable.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 20 October 2023 04:46 (six months ago) link
they should make all of those idiots stand outside Georgia malls wearing sandwich board signs that read *I tried to take over the country and deny you your rights as citizens also check out the great deals at Forever 21*. 12 hours a day every day for 12 years.
― scott seward, Friday, 20 October 2023 04:52 (six months ago) link
humiliating tho
― Yngwie Azalea (stevie), Friday, 20 October 2023 08:56 (six months ago) link
Does this have to be written in the form of an actual letter, like starting with "Dearest Georgians" and ending with "warmest regards" or "yours in service"?
― henry s, Friday, 20 October 2023 11:57 (six months ago) link
Scott OTM
― The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 20 October 2023 12:01 (six months ago) link
Dearest Georgians,
I apologize that you could not see the things that I saw. I assumed that when I shared the completely obvious evidence of malfeasance with you, that you would react in kind and take back your country. In retrospect, I probably should have expected less from you. After all, you voted for Joe Biden. Or so they tell you.
Valete Krakene,
Sidney
― real warm grandpa (Neanderthal), Friday, 20 October 2023 12:18 (six months ago) link
which will be covered in red ink with a huge "SEE ME!" at the top upon submission for approval
― real warm grandpa (Neanderthal), Friday, 20 October 2023 12:19 (six months ago) link
P.S.:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5uqPUZxZHg
― The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 20 October 2023 12:28 (six months ago) link
Powell should get the Larry Kleist treatment:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKE9W0O8bX8
(Ironic, because one of the players in this sketch is currently on trial for storming the capitol on January 6)
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 20 October 2023 13:34 (six months ago) link
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/judge-threats-imprison-trump-biolat-rcna121403
The judge presiding over Donald Trump’s $250 million civil fraud trial in New York raised the possibility on Friday of putting the former president in prison after Trump failed to comply with a partial gag order requiring him to remove a post trashing the judge's law clerk on social media.Judge Arthur Engoron said in court on Friday morning that Trump had posted on his social media account "an untrue and disparaging post about my clerk" and that he spoke to the former president about the matter."I ordered him to remove the post immediately and he said he did take it down," Engoron said.
Judge Arthur Engoron said in court on Friday morning that Trump had posted on his social media account "an untrue and disparaging post about my clerk" and that he spoke to the former president about the matter.
"I ordered him to remove the post immediately and he said he did take it down," Engoron said.
― Dwigt Rortugal (Eric H.), Friday, 20 October 2023 14:56 (six months ago) link
god imagine the day he goes to prison and right-wing pizza companies offer special Trump pies to help raise money to donate for his bail
― real warm grandpa (Neanderthal), Friday, 20 October 2023 14:59 (six months ago) link
I'm visualizing no bail terms, personally
― out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Friday, 20 October 2023 14:59 (six months ago) link
"i'm in jail"
"we know"
"bail me out"
"there's no bail"
"huh?"
"right but you can pay for me to leave jail right now"
"no that's bail"
"so do that"
"what are you talking about they do it on tv all the time"
"yes and I also enjoyed that episode of Law and Order but you don't get bail"
"I totally understand bail"
"no, you aren't offered bail"
"I don't care, I'm taking it anyway"
"that's not how it works"
"Get me out now"
"We've been through this"
"I pay your salary, find a way"
"actually you haven't paid si--"
"you're fired"
"ok. you're still in jail. good day."
― real warm grandpa (Neanderthal), Friday, 20 October 2023 15:06 (six months ago) link
Trump probably wouldn't want to leave prison--surrounded by adoring Nazis
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Friday, 20 October 2023 15:08 (six months ago) link
as well as write an apology letter to its citizensha, that's like something you would have a fourth-grader do after the start a small grass fire
restorative justice in action
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Friday, 20 October 2023 15:10 (six months ago) link
It's predictable that he was going push it with the gag order, but attacking the judge's staff again is really pushing it. I suspect he might want do some performative prison time, it will be a great boost for his fundraising.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 20 October 2023 15:11 (six months ago) link
ugh even that will ruin the celebration
"HA HA, YOUR CANDIDATE'S IN JAIL"
"jokes on you, he's playing 7D chess, what a headfake that you fell for"
― real warm grandpa (Neanderthal), Friday, 20 October 2023 15:13 (six months ago) link
Gettin' prison tats, makin' raisin wine. Asking Melania to put some money in his commissary account, lifting weights in the yard.
A comforting fantasy, and comforting fantasies are about all I have going for me right now
― The Royal House of Hangover (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 20 October 2023 15:13 (six months ago) link
if he lifted weights he'd probably go into cardiac arrest
― real warm grandpa (Neanderthal), Friday, 20 October 2023 15:14 (six months ago) link
given his views on exercise at least
― real warm grandpa (Neanderthal), Friday, 20 October 2023 15:15 (six months ago) link
I suspect he might want do some performative prison time, it will be a great boost for his fundraising.
only if he can get it reduced to a couple weeks of just hanging around Mar-a-Lago. the man's never lived a day in discomfort in his life I'm sure he doesn't actually want to go to jail
― frogbs, Friday, 20 October 2023 15:21 (six months ago) link
I suspect he might want do some performative prison time, it will be a great boost for his fundraising
Biden is way outraising Trump lately, based on what I've read
― Dwigt Rortugal (Eric H.), Friday, 20 October 2023 15:36 (six months ago) link
Going to jail for a post is the definition of a real poster
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 20 October 2023 15:38 (six months ago) link
sentenced to 51 years
― out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Friday, 20 October 2023 15:39 (six months ago) link
(I wish)
― xyzzzz__, Friday, October 20, 2023 11:38 AM (ten minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
salute
― lag∞n, Friday, 20 October 2023 15:49 (six months ago) link
Or 140 years
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 20 October 2023 15:50 (six months ago) link
would Trump be the first person to go to jail for posting?
― frogbs, Friday, 20 October 2023 15:52 (six months ago) link
No, that was Bean Dad
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Friday, 20 October 2023 15:53 (six months ago) link
― frogbs, Friday, October 20, 2023 11:52 AM (four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
naw lots of people have for making threats
― lag∞n, Friday, 20 October 2023 15:57 (six months ago) link
fraud, etc
frogs you even posted a thread about one in your early days!
― real warm grandpa (Neanderthal), Friday, 20 October 2023 16:12 (six months ago) link
oh just noticed he hadn't done it again, it was the failure to delete the og post and it was still up on his campaign site for several weeks after the gag order.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 20 October 2023 16:14 (six months ago) link
Right I mean there are crimes via posting but this is just standard Trumpposting which anyone could do. Not a huge distinction I admit
― frogbs, Friday, 20 October 2023 16:24 (six months ago) link
looks like Chesebro is now also pleading guilty
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Friday, 20 October 2023 16:32 (six months ago) link
NEW: Kenneth Chesebro, alleged architect of the “fake electors” plot, has struck a plea deal with prosecutors in Fulton County, Georgia, per source familiar with the arrangement. — Anna Bower, Lawfare
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 20 October 2023 16:32 (six months ago) link
And he was in direct communication with Eastman and Clark and types like that. Fun!
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 20 October 2023 16:33 (six months ago) link
― out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Friday, 20 October 2023 16:33 (six months ago) link
fuck me, this was the guy who was marching with Alex Jones, wearing a maga hat on jan 6th!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 20 October 2023 16:34 (six months ago) link
excuse me, I've gotta flip this Cheesebro
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Friday, 20 October 2023 16:36 (six months ago) link
When one cheese bro falls, they all fall.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 20 October 2023 16:36 (six months ago) link
Yeah this is kinda amazing -- they were the ones who wanted to force their trials early, got it, and then folded, something that otherwise might not have happened for months if at all. Truly self-owns; let's see what he agreed to give up.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 20 October 2023 16:38 (six months ago) link
Guys, guys, I'm getting...hopeful?
― deep wubs and tribral rhythms (Boring, Maryland), Friday, 20 October 2023 16:38 (six months ago) link
shhh lol
― out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Friday, 20 October 2023 16:40 (six months ago) link
even just a few days ago I heard a practising lawyer on a legal podcast saying it was unlikely that true believer Trump cultists like Powell and Cheesebro would flip.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 20 October 2023 16:44 (six months ago) link
I'm sure Lindell will continue holding the line
― Dwigt Rortugal (Eric H.), Friday, 20 October 2023 16:46 (six months ago) link
this does feel like something of a moment
― J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Friday, 20 October 2023 16:47 (six months ago) link
10/20/23: MAGA has fallen
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Friday, 20 October 2023 16:53 (six months ago) link
pour one out for the cheesbro
― the new drip king (DJP), Friday, 20 October 2023 16:54 (six months ago) link
et tu chesebro
― lag∞n, Friday, 20 October 2023 16:56 (six months ago) link
more like chesemelt amirite
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Friday, 20 October 2023 17:00 (six months ago) link
No bro of mine
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 20 October 2023 17:03 (six months ago) link
grate expectations
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 20 October 2023 17:06 (six months ago) link
none of these people were going to do 20 years for trump.
― scott seward, Friday, 20 October 2023 17:06 (six months ago) link
is it true that biden already has more followers on truth social than trump? because if true that is pretty funny. crowd size and all. sorry if talked about already.
― scott seward, Friday, 20 October 2023 17:08 (six months ago) link
The Biden campaign has more than the Trump campaign: https://www.axios.com/2023/10/18/biden-truth-social-followers-trump
― Dwigt Rortugal (Eric H.), Friday, 20 October 2023 17:09 (six months ago) link
gotta think truth social isnt too long for this world
― lag∞n, Friday, 20 October 2023 17:10 (six months ago) link
yeah a bit misleading because Trump doesn't really have a "campaign" like Biden does, I'm sure Trump the person has more Truth Social followers than anybody
― frogbs, Friday, 20 October 2023 17:13 (six months ago) link
6.4M compared to the two campaigns' collective 45K
― Dwigt Rortugal (Eric H.), Friday, 20 October 2023 17:17 (six months ago) link
dt is a campaign unto himself
― lag∞n, Friday, 20 October 2023 17:18 (six months ago) link
I can only assume anyone who signs up for Truth Social automatically gets subscribed to Trump, MySpace Tom style
― Dwigt Rortugal (Eric H.), Friday, 20 October 2023 17:18 (six months ago) link
xp He is large, he contains multitudes
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 20 October 2023 17:18 (six months ago) link
Looks like a similarish arrangement to Powell, except he's pleading guilty to a felony, ergo I'm sure he's got a lot more stuff to spill:
Chesebro pleaded guilty to 1 felony count of conspiracy to commit filing false documents. He will be ordered to serve 5 yrs probation, pay $5,000 in restitution, complete 100 hrs of community service, write a letter of apology to citizens of GA, and testify truthfully at trial. — Sam Gringlas, WABE
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 20 October 2023 17:21 (six months ago) link
after previously just having a sketchy concept (well, clueless tbh) of what a RICO case is and how it works from watching The Sopranos and other US crime movies and stuff. This has been very educational for me.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 20 October 2023 17:22 (six months ago) link
It has been mentioned previously, but just to reiterate, RICO statutes in the state of Georgia are very broad, covering many types of crimes that do not fall under RICO at the federal level. This has led prosecutors, including Fani Willis, to pursue RICO charges in some fairly unconventional cases, and has at times raised ethics questions concerning those cases. Doesn't mean that's an issue for this particular case, but it is context to keep in mind.
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Friday, 20 October 2023 17:35 (six months ago) link
A little more under the radar since Trump wasn't charged there directly but per WaPo:
Also this week, a Michigan prosecutor told a judge she had reached a cooperation agreement with one of the 16 Republicans who had signed official-looking paperwork falsely claiming Trump had won that state.The judge on Thursday dismissed the charges against Trump elector James Renner, but neither side made public the terms of the prosecution’s deal with him.Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel (D) in July charged Renner and 15 others with eight felony counts each, including forgery and conspiracy to commit forgery. The prosecution of the others is ongoing.
The judge on Thursday dismissed the charges against Trump elector James Renner, but neither side made public the terms of the prosecution’s deal with him.
Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel (D) in July charged Renner and 15 others with eight felony counts each, including forgery and conspiracy to commit forgery. The prosecution of the others is ongoing.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 20 October 2023 17:46 (six months ago) link
I don't like the idea of RICO being used against groups of ordinary citizens with no connection to power because making something a conspiracy seems to dispense with some of the ordinary legal protections defendants would have. But idgaf about this one!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 20 October 2023 17:52 (six months ago) link
Protestors of the planned law enforcement training center in Atlanta have been charged under the RICO statute.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 20 October 2023 17:54 (six months ago) link
Sixty one of them, to be precise.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 20 October 2023 17:55 (six months ago) link
Some them for run of the mill activism. Once you define something as a criminal enterprise then anyone who does anything to help it is a co-conspirator.
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Friday, 20 October 2023 17:57 (six months ago) link
Yeah, it's like the government deciding you are a "terrorist."
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 20 October 2023 17:58 (six months ago) link
i fucking hate trump. his hair looks fucking ridiculous in that courtroom. who goes to court with their hair like that?
i loved when jimmy kimmel said the other night that you are so used to trump being a scumbag that you forget what a dick he is!
― scott seward, Friday, 20 October 2023 17:59 (six months ago) link
sorry. just needed a good old-fashioned FUCK TRUMP. i'm good now.
Biden campaign should buy truth social and use it to deprogram his cult.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 20 October 2023 17:59 (six months ago) link
I have no doubt there will be some abhorrent use of RICO. Tbh my interest in this one is mainly just for entertainment. I just need the distraction from how depressing everything else is.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 20 October 2023 18:00 (six months ago) link
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra),
curtain call for this, very good
― that's when I reach for my copy of Revolver (WmC), Friday, 20 October 2023 19:02 (six months ago) link
― close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Friday, 20 October 2023 20:58 (six months ago) link
Without commenting on this particular situation, FYI there are civil claims under RICO statutes too. Civil RICO claims can be brought by the government or by private citizens. There is no prison time in civil RICO claims.
So not every instance of a RICO case will mean someone's in jeopardy of going to prison.
― felicity, Friday, 20 October 2023 21:24 (six months ago) link
Well I guess anyone in a courtroom is in jeopardy of going to jail if they behave badly enough. I just mean prison not a remedy under civil RICO.
― felicity, Friday, 20 October 2023 21:26 (six months ago) link
BREAKING: Attorney JENNA ELLIS is taking a plea deal in Fulton County. She's pleading guilty to one count of aiding and abetting false statements and writings— Tamar Hallerman (@TamarHallerman) October 24, 2023
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 24 October 2023 13:46 (five months ago) link
For those the can't or won't read Twitter (fair!), she goes on to post:
The terms: 5 years probation$5000 restitution to the Georgia Secretary of State’s officeFirst offender status100 hours community serviceApology letterTestify truthfullyNo communication with co-defendants, witnesses and mediaAdditional recorded statements to prosecutors
And as someone else posts:
Nice little reminder that as these various co-defendants plead guilty they're all implicating Trump in different prongs of the larger RICO conspiracy.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 24 October 2023 13:48 (five months ago) link
the fact that the sentences are so lenient has to be pretty appealing to the rest
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 24 October 2023 13:50 (five months ago) link
https://t4.ftcdn.net/jpg/00/72/03/89/240_F_72038944_pdmoHuXTyDyxrgqOtshAJvMAEoKa7OBm.jpg
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 24 October 2023 13:56 (five months ago) link
hate to be this guy but what are the chances none of this is gonna matter because of a hung jury?
― frogbs, Tuesday, 24 October 2023 13:57 (five months ago) link
A well-hung jury
― real warm grandpa (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 24 October 2023 14:15 (five months ago) link
Carrot/stick, etc.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 24 October 2023 14:19 (five months ago) link
who knows, but I will enjoy laughing when dipshit whines that his "deal" wasn't as lenient as everyone else's
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 24 October 2023 14:24 (five months ago) link
The Art of the Squeal
― Large, Complex, Detailed but Irrefutable POST (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 24 October 2023 14:27 (five months ago) link
I swear I misread "Testify truthfully" and "Testify tearfully"
― Look closely, that is all. (doo dah), Tuesday, 24 October 2023 14:30 (five months ago) link
so they started off last month with a shortlist of 900 potential jurors. I was thinking how many of these can be jury candidates who are genuinely impartial and unopinionated on this case - there will be some recusals and perhaps some dishonesty. I imagine the screening process for such a big case will be putting these mofos under a microscope, the FBI probably already have everything they've ever posted!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 24 October 2023 14:30 (five months ago) link
What exactly is the point of a jury system where the jurors are hand-picked by the legal teams? Hardly a cross-section of 'peers'. Maybe they should use all 900 and let them fight it out in a vast jury room a la A Matter of Life and Death.
― I must be the unluckiest man alive (Matt #2), Tuesday, 24 October 2023 14:34 (five months ago) link
As I understand it, it's not that they are hand-picked, per se, but that lawyers have a certain number of "vetoes," and have to do so strategically. (Lawyers, is this right?) Like, lawyers can't just say "no" to every juror, forever, especially when everyone knows the defendant and their alleged crimes.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 24 October 2023 14:41 (five months ago) link
makes me think of the OJ case. which infamously returned the wrong verdict
― frogbs, Tuesday, 24 October 2023 14:50 (five months ago) link
I like how this guy is starting to increasingly rely on 'look over there!' responses, per WaPo:
Steve Sadow, lead counsel for Trump in the Georgia case, pointed to the prosecution’s willingness to dismiss Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations charges, commonly known as RICO, as evidence of what he indicated was Willis’s true strategy.“For the fourth time, Fani Willis and her prosecution team have dismissed the RICO charge in return for a plea to probation,” he said. “What that shows is this so-called RICO case is nothing more than a bargaining chip for DA Willis. Moreover, this plea was to a completely separate charge, not a part of the original indictment, which doesn’t even mention President Trump.”
“For the fourth time, Fani Willis and her prosecution team have dismissed the RICO charge in return for a plea to probation,” he said. “What that shows is this so-called RICO case is nothing more than a bargaining chip for DA Willis. Moreover, this plea was to a completely separate charge, not a part of the original indictment, which doesn’t even mention President Trump.”
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 24 October 2023 15:10 (five months ago) link
I also turn on the waterworks when I plead guilty to making bad posts
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 24 October 2023 16:15 (five months ago) link
Steve Saddo
― real warm grandpa (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 24 October 2023 16:17 (five months ago) link
“What that shows is this so-called RICO case is nothing more than a bargaining chip for DA Willis."
Congratulations for understanding how the U.S. justice system works.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 24 October 2023 16:28 (five months ago) link
Cohen testified about the statement of financial condition: "I was tasked by Mr. Trump to increase the total assets based upon a number that he arbitrarily elected, and my responsibility, along with Allen Weisselberg, predominantly, was to reverse engineer...— erica orden (@eorden) October 24, 2023
...the various different asset classes, increase those assets in order to achieve the number that Mr. Trump had tasked us."As Cohen testified, Trump shook his head, looking red in the face.— erica orden (@eorden) October 24, 2023
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 24 October 2023 17:05 (five months ago) link
Cohen is a bit of a dickhead but has a fantastic Noo Yawk accent. Bad move by Trump to make an enemy of someone who was involved with this particular financial fraud and has the receipts.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 24 October 2023 17:12 (five months ago) link
Trump has been doing this kind of stuff for so long it may be inconceivable to him that there's any other way to do things. He would probably also say that everybody does it, which is almost certainly true! And he woulda got away with it if it weren't for those pesky kids getting elected president and trying to overthrow an election.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 24 October 2023 17:13 (five months ago) link
I have no doubt it's a wide spread practice. Maybe the cost of investigating is just too high, but they really should be prosecuting more of these.
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Tuesday, 24 October 2023 17:23 (five months ago) link
one thing the trump story has demonstrated or at least strong suggested is that white collar crime is wide spread and only lightly policed
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 24 October 2023 17:29 (five months ago) link
It's so brazen I'd suggest it's also only lightly polished.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 24 October 2023 17:31 (five months ago) link
If Trump had friends I bet he'd be invoking the "all my friends are doing it!" defense.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 24 October 2023 17:32 (five months ago) link
if theres no one watching theres no reason to do a good job
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 24 October 2023 17:32 (five months ago) link
sometimes during a witch hunt, you catch actual witches
― Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 24 October 2023 17:33 (five months ago) link
He's never actually denied being a witch.
― nashwan, Tuesday, 24 October 2023 17:35 (five months ago) link
it's defrauding the market and can have a negative impact on ordinary folk who want to borrow from banks themselves. But I think most of the public don't really care that much about it and dismiss it as one the lesser crimes that rich people do. Obv this is just based on a feeling and not quoting any solid opinion polling. But possibly it would prosecuted more if there was more public outrage.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 24 October 2023 17:35 (five months ago) link
pretty sure theres a high public disapproval of rich people getting away with stuff
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 24 October 2023 17:36 (five months ago) link
I heard a good analogy: you secretly 'borrow' $100 from your boss on a Friday, go to a casino on Saturday and win $1000, then replace the $100 monday morning
Not only did you steal the $100 from your employers, you also stole the other $900 since you couldn't have won it without the first theft
― Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 24 October 2023 17:38 (five months ago) link
witch hunt
In Trump's case, more like a lil' bitch hunt.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 24 October 2023 17:39 (five months ago) link
well right now it's more of a snitch hunt
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Tuesday, 24 October 2023 17:40 (five months ago) link
xxpyeah, I'm probably posting bollox here! But it's kind of boring fraud, like maybe the public get more animated when there are lurid tales of gold bars hidden in the wardrobe or whatever.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 24 October 2023 17:41 (five months ago) link
it's a miracle he got any work done with all those criminals around him
― StanM, Tuesday, 24 October 2023 17:42 (five months ago) link
im sure they would, and that dynamic is illustrative of the corrupt nature of the system altogether, if the people get fired up you can throw them a bone then continue on as per usual xp
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 24 October 2023 17:44 (five months ago) link
it's kind of boring fraud
This is part of the challenge for sure. Like I had a generally well-informed friend saying he just can't get interested in the SBF case because anything to do with crypto just makes his eyes glaze over — a sane reaction, but actually it's been a very entertaining trial imo once you get past the gobbledygook.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 24 October 2023 17:46 (five months ago) link
the sbf trial is so crazy and funny if you dont like that you dont like financial crimes
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 24 October 2023 17:51 (five months ago) link
is there anyone recommendable doing interesting coverage of the sbf case?
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 24 October 2023 17:54 (five months ago) link
crypto is basically a way to do crimes that are way too stupid to get off the ground in the normal financial system, you gotta love it
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 24 October 2023 17:54 (five months ago) link
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, October 24, 2023 1:54 PM (five seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink
these guys are prob deeper into the case and the whole scene than anyone
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvy1IJyax6E
matt levine also frequently writes about it https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2023-10-12/ftx-had-many-bad-spreadsheets
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 24 October 2023 17:58 (five months ago) link
thanks, I needed a new wormhole to go down!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 24 October 2023 18:00 (five months ago) link
enjoy, its good stuff lol
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 24 October 2023 18:01 (five months ago) link
the whole lewis take of "but wait-- the money isn't necessarily even gone because ~accounting~, there's a good chance many victims will be made whole" at that point my eyes don't glaze over but just refuse to look there because fuck these guys
― i'd meet u where u are, but that place really sucks (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 24 October 2023 18:01 (five months ago) link
lewis is really not covering himself in glory recently, which is a shame hes such a good writer, the government has throughly demonstrated that the money is in fact gone, not all of it but prob like half, also even if the money was all there the ftx brass were simply doing crimes left and right
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 24 October 2023 18:06 (five months ago) link
apparently one of the investments sbf made with ftx customer funds did well and sbfs lawyers were like hey look at this that moneys not stolen its right here in fact it grew and can cover for some of the other stolen money and the judge said if i steal a dollar from you and buy a scratch ticket that hits and then pay you back i have still stolen a dollar from you (exactly the same point andy was making upthread re trump)
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 24 October 2023 18:11 (five months ago) link
As I understand it, it's not that they are hand-picked, per se, but that lawyers have a certain number of "vetoes," and have to do so strategically. (Lawyers, is this right?) Like, lawyers can't just say "no" to every juror, forever, especially when everyone knows the defendant and their alleged crimes.― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, October 24, 2023 7:41 AM bookmarkflaglink
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, October 24, 2023 7:41 AM bookmarkflaglink
During the jury selection process I believe each side can excuse (veto) an unlimited number of jurors for cause ("cause" including displaying bias - there can be a side bar with the judge to argue this) and a set number of peremptory challenges (challenges where you don't have to provide an explanation).
However, there is case law prohibiting using peremptory challenges solely for racial reasons or in a way that is otherwise biased (Batson v. Kentucky being one of these cases.)
So a jury is not exactly hand-picked but it's not also completely uncurated.
― felicity, Tuesday, 24 October 2023 18:16 (five months ago) link
felicity otm.
I see that a third lawyer in the Georgia case, Jenna Ellis, has now flipped.
Rats, ship, etc.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 24 October 2023 19:09 (five months ago) link
having to smell two of Giuliani's close range farts at a hearing should have been enough to break her
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 24 October 2023 19:24 (five months ago) link
I hear that people are now starting to say that Mr. Trump may not be permitted infinite wriggles in the direction of 'out'.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 24 October 2023 19:31 (five months ago) link
how many farts must a man crack out
― real warm grandpa (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 24 October 2023 19:32 (five months ago) link
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution had a pretty interesting profile on Chesebro this past Sunday. People who know him well (e.g., his law school classmates at Hahvahd) are astonished at what appears to be a complete right turn in his life. Again, I am amazed at the power of Trump's only true talent: getting people to destroy themselves for his own aggrandizement.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 24 October 2023 19:35 (five months ago) link
Among the gazillions of reasons for concern about another Trump presidency is what kinds of people are still willing to go anywhere near him. The "adults in the room" of the first term, such as they were, did actually stop him from doing a lot of crazy shit. If he somehow gets thru all of this and ends up as president, it's going to be nothing but grifters, goons and Stephen Miller.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 24 October 2023 19:38 (five months ago) link
And he may never leave office voluntarily.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 24 October 2023 19:39 (five months ago) link
I hear that people are now starting to say that Mr. Trump may be permitted infinite isolations in the direction of 'increasingly.'
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Tuesday, 24 October 2023 19:40 (five months ago) link
Keep 'em coming
“Obviously we didn’t win.”ABC EXCLUSIVE — Mark Meadows has testified before a grand jury in exchange for immunity - according to sources familiar with the former chief of staff’s conversations with the Special Counsel. Meadows told prosecutors he he agreed the 2020 election…— Jonathan Karl (@jonkarl) October 24, 2023
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 24 October 2023 21:05 (five months ago) link
Neanderthal
The answer, my friend, is breaking in the wind
― The Royal House of Hangover (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 24 October 2023 21:08 (five months ago) link
maybe the public get more animated when there are lurid tales of gold bars hidden in the wardrobe or whatever.
or nuclear secrets in the shitter
what makes a man shart liars?
― Yngwie Azalea (stevie), Wednesday, 25 October 2023 10:11 (five months ago) link
He’s got a lot on his mind right now, including holiday cakes:
I don’t think Mark Meadows would lie about the Rigged and Stollen 2020 Presidential Election merely for getting IMMUNITY against Prosecution (PERSECUTION!)
https://i.imgur.com/aAhNHZ9.jpg
― epistantophus, Wednesday, 25 October 2023 14:02 (five months ago) link
Oh. I thought ^^^ that was a closeup of Trump's brain.
― hat trick of trashiness (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 25 October 2023 14:08 (five months ago) link
not enough yeast
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Wednesday, 25 October 2023 14:11 (five months ago) link
Trump compared himself to Nelson Mandela. I'm just gonna say that sentence a couple of times.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EgnPzDtgUl0
― scott seward, Wednesday, 25 October 2023 14:14 (five months ago) link
bless jimmy kimmel for immediately calling him Nelson Mandelicatessen.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 25 October 2023 14:19 (five months ago) link
lol A+. I can't believe I just listened to 2:24 of this idiot, but it was edifying to learn that we have gone to "communism, Marxism, fascism" since he left office. I must have missed the memo.
― Large, Complex, Detailed but Irrefutable POST (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 25 October 2023 14:24 (five months ago) link
It's been hard out here.
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Wednesday, 25 October 2023 14:25 (five months ago) link
I'll try to get out of the habit of posting tweets, but this was posted by Erica Orden:
Judge Engoron just tore into Trump, accusing him of having potentially violated the gag order again with comments he made outside the courtroom. Judge said he is under the impression Trump again disparaged his law clerk. Trump lawyer Chris Kise argued Trump was referring to Cohen
Here is what Trump said: "it would have been fair at least...because no negative jury would vote against me. But this judge will, because this judge is a very partisan judge with a person who's very partisan sitting alongside… perhaps even much more partisan than he is.”
The judge said: "I am very protective of my staff, as i should be…I don’t want anybody killed." After Kise claimed Trump was referring to Cohen, Judge Engoron said he would take the matter under advisement.
More Engoron: "I stated the last time that any future violations would be severely punished.Why should there not be severe sanctions for this blatant, dangerous disobeyal of a court order?"
The judge is now closing the courtroom with Trump and lawyers still in there.
Trump just exited the courtroom. He refused to say what happened during the conference. He denied that his earlier comment was about the clerk but he refused to answer multiple questions about who he was referring to.
He denied that his earlier comment was about the clerk but he refused to answer multiple questions about who he was referring to.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 25 October 2023 17:20 (five months ago) link
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 25 October 2023 17:24 (five months ago) link
Ok but "disobeyal"?
Disobeying, disobedience, defiance, flouting, ignoring... those are words
― Breakfast at Tiffani Amber Thiessen's (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 25 October 2023 17:29 (five months ago) link
I don't say evasion, I say avoision
― frogbs, Wednesday, 25 October 2023 17:31 (five months ago) link
OED allows it, dates from 1889 xp
― that's when I reach for my copy of Revolver (WmC), Wednesday, 25 October 2023 17:31 (five months ago) link
Ad inifinitum.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 25 October 2023 17:32 (five months ago) link
dornaldo troomps for prions
― baths in the belfry (cat), Wednesday, 25 October 2023 17:40 (five months ago) link
Oh shit, looks like the judge put Trump on the stand, found him not credible, and fined him $10,000 on top of the previous $5000. Which, sure, is not a lot in Trumpworld, but you know it pissed him off.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 25 October 2023 18:55 (five months ago) link
nbd just a judge doing judge stuff
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 25 October 2023 18:59 (five months ago) link
what a jack...butt...munch...ass
― real warm grandpa (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 25 October 2023 19:00 (five months ago) link
if you double it every time it gets pretty big fast tho as we know from the story of the chessboard and the rice
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 25 October 2023 19:00 (five months ago) link
I mean, this is the guy who looked at an eclipse. You tell him not to do something, he's gonna do it.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 25 October 2023 19:00 (five months ago) link
he had to be referring to Engoron's law clerk, because Cohen isn't "sitting alongside" the judge. So either Engoron is making empty threats or Trump has to be jailed.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 25 October 2023 19:03 (five months ago) link
More about the whole thing.
https://themessenger.com/politics/trumpg-gag-order-violation-judge-engoron
In terms of 'empty threats,' the worst thing Engoron could have done would have been to simply throw him in the slammer immediately. Letting him hang himself on his own rope is a much better approach and if Kise tries to file an appeal or complain the next level up goes "Yeah, and how many times was he explicitly instructed about this, and how many ways did you try and skate?"
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 25 October 2023 19:14 (five months ago) link
frankly surprised Trump hasn't just lied and said he's in jail and taken a video in some cheap Spirit Halloween prisoner costume behind cardboard bars
― real warm grandpa (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 25 October 2023 19:21 (five months ago) link
imagine the FUNDRAISING
― real warm grandpa (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 25 October 2023 19:22 (five months ago) link
Remarkable exchange between the judge and Trump’s lawyer at the end of the day.When Robert requests a directed verdict again, the judge snaps: “Absolutely not,” adding that he doesn’t regard Cohen as a “key witness.”“There’s enough evidence in this case to fill this courtroom,” he adds.
When Robert requests a directed verdict again, the judge snaps: “Absolutely not,” adding that he doesn’t regard Cohen as a “key witness.”
“There’s enough evidence in this case to fill this courtroom,” he adds.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 25 October 2023 19:52 (five months ago) link
#BREAKING from @NBCNews team inside courtroom:“TRUMP IMMEDIATELY GETS UP AND STORMS OUT OF THE COURTROOM WITH SECRET SERVICE AGENTS CHASING AFTER HIM….COMPLETELY UNEXPECTED AND SURPRISING TO HIS OWN ATTORNEYS …COURTROOM GASPED”— Shawn Reynolds (@ShawnReynolds_) October 25, 2023
deal from strength or get crushed every time
― frogbs, Wednesday, 25 October 2023 20:20 (five months ago) link
I've had enough of this - good night!— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) February 25, 2013
― frogbs, Wednesday, 25 October 2023 20:25 (five months ago) link
If you can't beat 'em, pretend beating them is beneath your dignity.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 25 October 2023 20:27 (five months ago) link
at this rate he's gonna talk himself into the death penalty
― frogbs, Wednesday, 25 October 2023 20:30 (five months ago) link
it'll take 16 Big Macs to calm him down
― Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 25 October 2023 20:32 (five months ago) link
gratifying AF but until he’s in debtors’ prison it’s temporary. XP
― BEWARE! SPOOKY! BOO! (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 25 October 2023 20:35 (five months ago) link
So it sounds like the sequence is:
Cohen says on stand that Trump did not directly tell him to inflate values.
Trump lawyer asks for directed verdict because this testimony absolves Trump
Judge says good try, Cohen isn't even a key witness.
Trump gets up and storms out
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Wednesday, 25 October 2023 20:47 (five months ago) link
Imagine him running you can't.
― nashwan, Wednesday, 25 October 2023 20:54 (five months ago) link
I'm imagining it alright, but he starts off running in place and not getting amywhere
― dell (del), Wednesday, 25 October 2023 20:57 (five months ago) link
with Hanna-Barbera sound fx playing on background
― dell (del), Wednesday, 25 October 2023 20:59 (five months ago) link
just like when I to type on my phone.
lol, I need caffeine
― dell (del), Wednesday, 25 October 2023 21:00 (five months ago) link
I want a GIF of Trump running that is accompanied by "Yakety Sax"
― Breakfast at Tiffani Amber Thiessen's (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 25 October 2023 21:25 (five months ago) link
So if you get up and storm out of your trial, at which you are (afaict) appearing voluntarily, can you be charged with contempt? Barring that, how about just for being a big drama-queen asshole?
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 25 October 2023 21:38 (five months ago) link
Does anyone know the source of his beef with this court clerk?
My court experience is limited, but I generally don't hold political views of the staff... perhaps an earlier encounter?
― Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 25 October 2023 22:22 (five months ago) link
He's got a great Deep State-dar.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 25 October 2023 22:23 (five months ago) link
iirc, one of the early stories about Trump's first statements attacking the clerk mentioned that during some of the more routine and preliminary court proceedings the clerk presided rather than the judge. my sense is that Trump is especially outraged by having a 'little nobody' kind of person in charge of any aspect of the case and treating him like any defendent. it afflicts his rich kid, spoiled, ex-presidential ego because such underlings should only appear in the role of doing his bidding and getting out of his way. I don't know if they are, but if the clerk is also a POC, that outrage would apply x10.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 25 October 2023 22:33 (five months ago) link
This is the clerk he doxxed right?
― Dwigt Rortugal (Eric H.), Wednesday, 25 October 2023 22:36 (five months ago) link
he posted a pic of the clerk that was taken with Chuck Schumer and inferred they were having an affair iirc
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 25 October 2023 22:41 (five months ago) link
Yes, he called her "Schumer's girlfriend."
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 25 October 2023 22:41 (five months ago) link
he probably doesn't know what 'partisan' actually means, but heard it from Bannon or someone and thinks that it makes him sound smart
― Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 25 October 2023 22:47 (five months ago) link
Never forget “…a very against police judge” from… 2018, i think?
― Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Wednesday, 25 October 2023 22:48 (five months ago) link
How does he cope with so much winning in court? Just needed to release the tension with a much-deserved victory lap? He won his case 10 times already, must be hard
― felicity, Wednesday, 25 October 2023 22:57 (five months ago) link
A contempt citation might be another $5,000 fine, which he can simultaneously ignore, appeal/challenge, and fundraise off of. Or do a Jim Carrey "I _AM_ in contempt!" speech.
But I wait in joyful hope for jail time
― Breakfast at Tiffani Amber Thiessen's (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 25 October 2023 23:05 (five months ago) link
he doesn't even need to be there, but who else will properly glower at the witnesses?
― Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 25 October 2023 23:09 (five months ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/htqlu5A.jpg
― epistantophus, Thursday, 26 October 2023 00:37 (five months ago) link
what do you think would happen to any other defendant who decided to just storm out of a courtroom like that?
― frogbs, Thursday, 26 October 2023 13:29 (five months ago) link
Good question frogbs. Of course, I can't recall very many times that a defendant had been head of state and therefore (theoretically) in charge of the entire government?
(Not defending this repugnant worthless ass, of course. Just saying that it's just a pretty novel situation.)
― Breakfast at Tiffani Amber Thiessen's (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 26 October 2023 13:34 (five months ago) link
Judge Ben Stiller looks on as Colin Jost testifies
https://media-cldnry.s-nbcnews.com/image/upload/t_fit-560w,f_auto,q_auto:eco,dpr_2.0/rockcms/2023-10/231225-donald-Trump-on-stand-ew-445p-c4abd1.jpg
― jaymc, Thursday, 26 October 2023 13:43 (five months ago) link
Keep thinking about this and wonder how many people have been tackled by the bailiffs for doing this.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 26 October 2023 13:49 (five months ago) link
yeah but bailiffs are usually not up against secret service agents
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Thursday, 26 October 2023 13:57 (five months ago) link
they were probably afraid of him actually shitting his pants on impact and getting it all over the flooring
― real warm grandpa (Neanderthal), Thursday, 26 October 2023 13:58 (five months ago) link
xp - of course not and I understand why this case is different, regardless I think it underscores how there remains two justice systems in this country.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 26 October 2023 14:02 (five months ago) link
Every time I open this thread I hope the c*** has died
― Yngwie Azalea (stevie), Thursday, 26 October 2023 14:03 (five months ago) link
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/colo-judge-rejects-trumps-bid-toss-lawsuit-aimed-keeping-2024-ballot-rcna122281
Similar lawsuit in Minnesota, and probably other states as well ...
Hard not to see a near future in which, depending on which state you live, there will be one major party candidate who the local government has ruled shall not appear on the ballot
― Dwigt Rortugal (Eric H.), Thursday, 26 October 2023 14:08 (five months ago) link
boy we are getting some purestrain Trump today. does this not defy the gag order as well?
The Radical Left Judge who should not be handling the FAKE & FULLY DISCREDITED CASE brought against me by the New York State A.G. (It should be handled by the Commercial Division, but should never have been brought!), fined me $10,000 yesterday under his so-called gag order. He is a judge that found me GUILTY before the trial even started, and long before he had the real facts, like Michael Cohen collapsing and choking yesterday under cross examination, and completely admitting that I did nothing wrong. He committed MASSIVE PERJURY, at a level seldom seen on the stand before. It was like watching the end of the best Petty Mason episode, where the defendant breaks down and cries, “Yes, I did it, I did it, I did it.” This case should be ended, NOW, but this Judge and his “boss,” Letitia Peekaboo James, will never let that happen. He even refuses to accept our big win in the Appeals Court. It is a disgrace to the legal system in the State of New York. This is a RIGGED CASE!
― frogbs, Thursday, 26 October 2023 14:29 (five months ago) link
No the gag order doesnt apply to the judge or AG aiui
― Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Thursday, 26 October 2023 14:32 (five months ago) link
This sounds like a guy who wants to discover what prison is like
― The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 26 October 2023 14:33 (five months ago) link
Letitia Peekaboo Jameswtf
― nashwan, Thursday, 26 October 2023 14:37 (five months ago) link
PETTY MASON
― scott seward, Thursday, 26 October 2023 14:37 (five months ago) link
he should hire petty mason. sounds like his kind of lawyer.
― scott seward, Thursday, 26 October 2023 14:38 (five months ago) link
Lol Skot
― The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 26 October 2023 14:39 (five months ago) link
an interesting point from yesterday is that Trump, without stopping for thought tells the lie that he was attacking the witness rather than the judge's clerk - so he was still breaking the terms of the gag order even in his lie.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 26 October 2023 14:41 (five months ago) link
Apparently he's been using the "Peekaboo" nickname for over a year. Nobody knows why.https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/letitia-james-peekaboo-trump-nickname-theories.html
― jaymc, Thursday, 26 October 2023 16:32 (five months ago) link
he boxes in a manner similar to Mike Tyson?
― real warm grandpa (Neanderthal), Thursday, 26 October 2023 16:34 (five months ago) link
I'd say that thinly veiled racism is a pretty cut and dried answer here
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Thursday, 26 October 2023 16:36 (five months ago) link
yeah really. barely veiled.
― scott seward, Thursday, 26 October 2023 16:44 (five months ago) link
right I don't think it's a mystery it just feels like one of those old school racist terms he probably learned from his Dad
― frogbs, Thursday, 26 October 2023 16:47 (five months ago) link
#onethread
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBRREj1CLpQ
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 26 October 2023 17:11 (five months ago) link
Or maybe like a guy who is 100% confident that when you're a celebrity former POTUS with millions of fanatical gun-owning followers they let you do it.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 26 October 2023 17:57 (five months ago) link
another new TRUTH about Maggot Haberman and Michael Cohen "chocking like a dog."
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Thursday, 26 October 2023 18:11 (five months ago) link
Peekaboo seems to me to be an obvious mashup of “pickaninny” and “jigaboo”
― the new drip king (DJP), Thursday, 26 October 2023 18:44 (five months ago) link
trump's from an era where that origin would make sense
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 26 October 2023 18:46 (five months ago) link
yeah just hadn't noticed him using it before, unreal
― nashwan, Thursday, 26 October 2023 18:52 (five months ago) link
the use of slightly altered racial slurs has been absolutely grotesque. At least Giuliani is going to have pay out bigtime to the black election worker he slandered and referred to as a "hustler". That has been a very satisfying outcome.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 26 October 2023 19:01 (five months ago) link
This was posted in the Urban Dictionary last year, fwiw:
peekaboo: Racist term used in white-supremacist circles to refer to a person of color, usually black, of upper or upper-middle class social standing.by WhoKnowsWhoItCouldBe September 21, 2022
by WhoKnowsWhoItCouldBe September 21, 2022
― keen reverberations of twee (collardio gelatinous), Thursday, 26 October 2023 19:17 (five months ago) link
That's the same date Trump first called James that word
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Thursday, 26 October 2023 19:30 (five months ago) link
fwiw indeed then.
― keen reverberations of twee (collardio gelatinous), Thursday, 26 October 2023 19:35 (five months ago) link
i remember back during the run up to the first muslim ban he, in an effort to get under the character limit, said something like '...bad hombres and immigs are flooding this country...,'"immigs" being short for "immigrants" of course. i was like damn this dude just invented a new slur whole cloth
― Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Thursday, 26 October 2023 19:35 (five months ago) link
"riggers" is another one he has been using
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 26 October 2023 20:34 (five months ago) link
yeah, I can't remember if it was 'stop the riggers!' or 'catch the riggers!' but it was really, really bad sounding
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 26 October 2023 20:49 (five months ago) link
'catch the riggers!'
by the toe, eh?
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 26 October 2023 20:50 (five months ago) link
It was like watching the end of the best Petty Mason episode, where the defendant breaks down and cries, “Yes, I did it, I did it, I did it.”
iirc Perry Mason always represents the defendants
Does Trump know who the defendant is in his own case? Maybe this is his way of confessing
― Brad C., Thursday, 26 October 2023 21:04 (five months ago) link
What I don't get, as far as that bullshit goes, is how a dude so undisciplined, so prone to just babbling barely coherently at best, so unable to keep himself on subject, so primed to meander and ramble and hop from non sequitur to non sequitur, can keep himself from blurting out worse, especially when he is overtly tip toeing that close to saying the thing he is insidiously coming very close to saying. You'd think he'd accidentally say the other thing in public over the course of the past several decades as a public figure, even once, but somehow, no.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 26 October 2023 21:04 (five months ago) link
I still don't understand how his making fun of that disabled guy wasn't the last time he was ever allowed to be out in public
― StanM, Thursday, 26 October 2023 21:12 (five months ago) link
Because and his followers had some half-assed explanation how that *wasn't* what happened. He does so much egregious shit that would sink any other politician but always walks away.
― Large, Complex, Detailed but Irrefutable POST (Dan Peterson), Thursday, 26 October 2023 21:19 (five months ago) link
he and his followers...
― Large, Complex, Detailed but Irrefutable POST (Dan Peterson), Thursday, 26 October 2023 21:20 (five months ago) link
ever since that moment I'm sure we live in what future historians will call post-civilised times.
― StanM, Thursday, 26 October 2023 21:24 (five months ago) link
Not as bad as mocking the disabled obviously, but all the way back to the debates where he was lurking behind Hillary I was like 'what the actual fuck is this?' How does the moderator not tell him to sit his fat ass down. Hillary should have thrown her mic at him. But again, no repercussions.
https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/fd7fc0342a3ef804ce06db6344616c121da45bb3/0_116_3514_2109/master/3514.jpg
― Large, Complex, Detailed but Irrefutable POST (Dan Peterson), Thursday, 26 October 2023 21:33 (five months ago) link
I mean, "the grab 'em by the pussy" tape! JFC I remain absolutely stunned that he skipped away from that with hardly a dent! Entire political careers have been ended on far, far, far less. This guys just fails upward at every fucking opportunity.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 26 October 2023 21:46 (five months ago) link
it's because these things are exactly why his voters like him
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Thursday, 26 October 2023 22:09 (five months ago) link
The mostly-liminal message is 'I'm so powerful I can walk all over people and get whatever I want and because we think alike you can trust me to deliver for you.'
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 26 October 2023 22:19 (five months ago) link
Yeah that sounds about right. Man, some people are stupid.
― Large, Complex, Detailed but Irrefutable POST (Dan Peterson), Thursday, 26 October 2023 22:28 (five months ago) link
And vengeful. Those two things, more or less.
― Dwigt Rortugal (Eric H.), Thursday, 26 October 2023 22:31 (five months ago) link
the irony is that he never wants to get within thirty feet of his actual followers.. they're dirty hillbillies, deplorables
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 26 October 2023 22:38 (five months ago) link
Oh I absolutely get why it appeals to his voters. 100%. My point is more than even 5-10 years prior, that outburst would have led to an immediate disavowal from at lease large swatch of the mainstream press and media. But, y'know, clicks and content, clicks and content.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 26 October 2023 22:49 (five months ago) link
it's been obvious to the public since at least 1984 exactly who he is.
it's the public who's got worse.
― BEWARE! SPOOKY! BOO! (Hunt3r), Thursday, 26 October 2023 23:29 (five months ago) link
My theory is that between now and Election Day the racist slurs will be flowing freely in his posts and rallies.
― The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 26 October 2023 23:37 (five months ago) link
I'm less mystified as to how he's managed to tiptoe between the raindrops with respect to the many many many things that should have brought him financial/legal/personal ruin than I am by the fact that no one has ever pummeled him comatose. That, to me, is a sign that civil society is still functioning on some level, because if there was anyone who ever asked for it harder, practically begged for it with his ass fully out for decade upon decade, I don't know who it would be.
― Prop Dramedy (Old Lunch), Thursday, 26 October 2023 23:49 (five months ago) link
Paid bodyguards are a hellava thing
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 26 October 2023 23:57 (five months ago) link
― Yngwie Azalea (stevie), Thursday, October 26, 2023 9:03 AM (nine hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
otfm
― underminer of twenty years of excellent contribution to this borad (dan m), Thursday, 26 October 2023 23:57 (five months ago) link
Andy: "I love the poorly educated."
― Breakfast at Tiffani Amber Thiessen's (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 26 October 2023 23:58 (five months ago) link
Ivanka has been ordered to testify in the civil fraud case
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Friday, 27 October 2023 16:11 (five months ago) link
ha
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 27 October 2023 16:28 (five months ago) link
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Thursday, October 26, 2023 5:09 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink
exactly. they think mocking handicapped people is funny. they think women fall over themselves to get the attention of rich men and then lie about it afterwards. they think anything that goes over their head is just the product of someone lying to them. they think the ultimate sign of intelligence and leadership is the ability to con people, because to them everything in life is a con. he is the perfect Republican candidate and I don't think anyone's gonna be able to replace him.
― frogbs, Friday, 27 October 2023 16:46 (five months ago) link
If the Maine shooter turns out to have authored a racist manifesto, he could peel away some Trump diehards
― The king of the demo (bernard snowy), Friday, 27 October 2023 16:54 (five months ago) link
possible running mate
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Friday, 27 October 2023 16:56 (five months ago) link
That would be a Trump Card!
― nickn, Friday, 27 October 2023 17:11 (five months ago) link
In even speaking it unto existence ... Yup, we're definitely getting a Trump-Racist Mass Shooter Du Jour 2024 ticket
― Dwigt Rortugal (Eric H.), Friday, 27 October 2023 17:14 (five months ago) link
Most likely the Subway killer guy
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Friday, 27 October 2023 17:15 (five months ago) link
Ivanka's lawyer pleading the dubious case that she's not involved with the Trump org anymore and her company is based in Delaware, not NYC. So the judge points out she's breaking the law there as well then, because she's operating from 5th avenue. lol, love this shit!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 27 October 2023 17:42 (five months ago) link
"I'm sorry your honor I cannot possible testify about THAT crime because I'm too busy criming elsewhere"
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 27 October 2023 17:45 (five months ago) link
The literal Trump crime family
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 27 October 2023 17:46 (five months ago) link
you move to Delaware you run up against the Biden crime family
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Friday, 27 October 2023 17:47 (five months ago) link
pleasepleaseplease put jared in jail. please?
― scott seward, Friday, 27 October 2023 17:48 (five months ago) link
isn't he solving the problems in the Middle East for a couple billion dollars right now?
― StanM, Friday, 27 October 2023 18:13 (five months ago) link
Trump expected on the stand Nov. 6 (I assume he cannot just get mad and leave). Someone posted: "Back-to-back-to-back-to-back testimony expected by three of Trump’s adult children, followed by the ex-president. A Trump on the stand for the first four court days in November."
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 27 October 2023 18:14 (five months ago) link
Four Days in November.
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Friday, 27 October 2023 18:19 (five months ago) link
I love it.
― The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 27 October 2023 18:19 (five months ago) link
I love that we use the term “adult children” for them.
― epistantophus, Friday, 27 October 2023 18:21 (five months ago) link
"Back-to-back-to-back-to-back testimony expected by three of Trump’s adult children, followed by the ex-president.
"Don't stand so close to me ... "
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 27 October 2023 18:22 (five months ago) link
keep doing this shit Donny
Since Bill Barr is a witness against Trump in the J6 case, this new post violates his gag order in DC. pic.twitter.com/9q4MwM0fNP— Ron Filipkowski (@RonFilipkowski) October 30, 2023
― frogbs, Monday, 30 October 2023 13:49 (five months ago) link
worth it, though
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Monday, 30 October 2023 13:51 (five months ago) link
I swear i saw bill barr wandering on 6th ave this summer without a care in the world
― Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Monday, 30 October 2023 14:06 (five months ago) link
And his hair was perfect.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 30 October 2023 14:08 (five months ago) link
His hair was perfectxpost ha ha
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Monday, 30 October 2023 14:09 (five months ago) link
I saw Don Junior walking with the caine
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Monday, 30 October 2023 14:11 (five months ago) link
What's it all about, Alfie
― real warm grandpa (Neanderthal), Monday, 30 October 2023 14:12 (five months ago) link
Trump: Well, that's one I haven't heard before.
Google: Trump fourth grade level About 9,950,000 results (0.37 seconds)
― Large, Complex, Detailed but Irrefutable POST (Dan Peterson), Monday, 30 October 2023 14:32 (five months ago) link
Tbh, I'm surprised we don't see this from any of them more often, but it's still funny:
Trump gets the name of the city he’s in wrong, forcing someone on stage to apparently whisper in his ear where he actually is: “You’re in Sioux City, Mr. President” pic.twitter.com/c0dEQbAElg— Biden-Harris HQ (@BidenHQ) October 29, 2023
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 30 October 2023 19:03 (five months ago) link
“Cleveland! Good morning!”
― The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 30 October 2023 19:05 (five months ago) link
O RLY
“ With droopy eyelids and mouth agape, Mr. Trump stammers and mumbles. He squints. His arms flap. He shuffles his feet and wanders laggardly across the stage. A burst of laughter and applause erupts from the crowd as he feigns confusion by turning and pointing to invisible supporters, as if he does not realize his back is to them.
But his recent campaign events have also featured less deliberate stumbles. Mr. Trump has had a string of unforced gaffes, garble and general disjointedness that go beyond his usual discursive nature, and that his Republican rivals are pointing to as signs of his declining performance.”
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/10/30/us/politics/trump-biden-age.html
― The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 30 October 2023 19:26 (five months ago) link
lol discursive is a polite way to describe it I guess
― Large, Complex, Detailed but Irrefutable POST (Dan Peterson), Monday, 30 October 2023 19:30 (five months ago) link
'increasingly incoherent' is the new 'increasingly isolated'
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Monday, 30 October 2023 19:31 (five months ago) link
he's a month away from the neck brace and wheelchair in court. "I'm sorry, your honor, my client is too incapacitated to participate any further."
https://bradybunchreviewed.files.wordpress.com/2017/12/jcoogan.jpg?w=840
― scott seward, Monday, 30 October 2023 19:33 (five months ago) link
His usual repulsive nature
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 30 October 2023 19:40 (five months ago) link
That's about the only time the NYT has run the Trump version of the is-Joe-Biden-too-old? piece.
― hat trick of trashiness (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 30 October 2023 19:50 (five months ago) link
#bothsides
#birthcertificates
― reggie (qualmsley), Monday, 30 October 2023 21:21 (five months ago) link
it sort of passed me by that "the adult children of Trump" isn't some media commentary joke, it's actually how the court describes them in discovery documents.. lol
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 31 October 2023 10:40 (five months ago) link
"Trump's next of kin" sounds better imho
― StanM, Tuesday, 31 October 2023 14:21 (five months ago) link
spawn maybe?
― epistantophus, Tuesday, 31 October 2023 14:41 (five months ago) link
I think that's meant in the "reading of the will" sense
― Dwigt Rortugal (Eric H.), Tuesday, 31 October 2023 14:42 (five months ago) link
They mean Trump’s adult children because he still has one who is not an adult yet.
― steely flan (suzy), Tuesday, 31 October 2023 15:58 (five months ago) link
^^ suzy coming in with the facts.
p.s. I initially read that as "still has one who is not an adult pet"
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 31 October 2023 18:04 (five months ago) link
as someone who has done minor groundworks and actually mixed and poured concrete as part of my previous job - albeit quite badly as I'm not a builder. I'm just sniggering to myself at this dense adult child brat of his, testifying in court under oath that "I just pour concrete". It's funny because I'm struggling to imagine him pouring a glass of water without fucking it up.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 3 November 2023 18:18 (five months ago) link
like trying to get out of jury duty lol
“Ms Trump, who resides in Florida with her three minor children, will suffer undue hardship if a stay is denied and she is required to testify at trial in New York in the middle of a school week, in a case she has already been dismissed from, before her appeal is heard,” her lawyers said in a legal filing on Thursday.
But in an expedited ruling on Thursday night, the appeals court offered a curt, 11-word response.
“Application for interim stay pending decision on the motion is denied,” the judges wrote.
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 3 November 2023 18:54 (five months ago) link
beautifully concise response
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 3 November 2023 18:56 (five months ago) link
Must have been tough for her lawyers to write that motion with a straight face
― tobo73, Friday, 3 November 2023 18:57 (five months ago) link
“Yours in service”
― The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 3 November 2023 18:57 (five months ago) link
jared can be mommy for a day or two
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 3 November 2023 18:57 (five months ago) link
Pretty sure DJT will motion that he is suffering an undue hardship as his testimony comes in the middle of King Kong Week on the Gorilla Channel.
― henry s, Friday, 3 November 2023 19:00 (five months ago) link
This whole thing is such a joke and his business seemingly ran the the emperor's new clothes, it makes me question the entire validity of the US economy as it seems like any moron with enough money can just get lawyers to make any stupidity go away.
As long as you don't get into Theranos or Enron or FTX total fuckery, you don't end up in REAL trouble.
Look at a dude like Michael Milken for all the BS he did, dude is still in business doing his thing.
All this and you can get choked out on the street for selling single smokes in America.
― earlnash, Friday, 3 November 2023 22:29 (five months ago) link
are you insulting the american dream
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Friday, 3 November 2023 23:42 (five months ago) link
LOL I have an old fam friend who’s a total Trumper, married a very rich person and they live practically next door to Trump in NJ and she just posted a pic on instagram a few days ago and I was like “is she posting a pic of herself with Michael Mullen?!?!” Yes she was.
― tobo73, Saturday, 4 November 2023 00:06 (five months ago) link
now that Meadows has disavowed the great lie his book publisher is suing him for leaving them with a lot of unwanted pulpers all about the great lie.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 5 November 2023 11:46 (five months ago) link
i love to see it
― Yngwie Azalea (stevie), Sunday, 5 November 2023 20:54 (five months ago) link
They could market it as metafiction
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Sunday, 5 November 2023 21:06 (five months ago) link
The second post is actually completely different from the first due to context.
Do you think you could market it as metafiction?
― Yngwie Azalea (stevie), Sunday, 5 November 2023 21:09 (five months ago) link
60 Minutes is doing a segment on me tonight, after an extensive interview I gave them a couple of weeks ago. Have no idea what the final produced version will be like, but wanted to let friends know to watch if you're interested. https://t.co/bEkmLdu0zu— John Eastman (@DrJohnEastman) November 5, 2023
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 5 November 2023 22:41 (five months ago) link
He seems confident his dodgy rationalizations will protect him from legal jeopardy.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Sunday, 5 November 2023 22:44 (five months ago) link
Another striking similarity with the Nazi party is how you can look at nearly all of these goons and be like, "THIS guy thinks he's part of a "master race"?"
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Sunday, 5 November 2023 22:49 (five months ago) link
I think that guy's face melted at the end of Raiders of the Lost Ark.
― omar little, Sunday, 5 November 2023 23:20 (five months ago) link
Lawyer’s nightmare scenario: When Trump takes the witness stand today, he needs to explain fraud allegations without committing perjury or invoke 5th Amendment privilege against self-incrimination, which allows judge, in this civil case, to infer the worst
Saw some suggestion that baiting the judge into losing his temper and overreacting to Trump bullshit is an actual possible Trump strategy and not just, like, rationalizing what may happen regardless.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 6 November 2023 14:41 (five months ago) link
Yes, read a Rolling Stone feature quoting Dershowitz saying it could be a tactic to goad the judge into overreacting and thus strengthening post-verdict appeal as Trump winning the case in the courtroom is virtually impossible.
― Yngwie Azalea (stevie), Monday, 6 November 2023 15:06 (five months ago) link
yah getting to be prez again is worth perjury and courtroom incitement-- in the same way paris was worth a mass.
i was gonna type "re-election is worth..." but decided he doesn't need actual re-election, since if he's on the ballot he'll just claim it anyhow.
― that genius dn i thought of on Zing but couldn't update to (Hunt3r), Monday, 6 November 2023 15:09 (five months ago) link
Judge Engoron to Trump: "Please, just answer the questions, no speeches." Judge added: "Some of your answers have not been responsive to the question."
Judge added: "Some of your answers have not been responsive to the question."
Always worth a reminder: he has already been found guilty, this is about damages/penalty, and iirc, the/this judge gets to decide them.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 6 November 2023 15:16 (five months ago) link
Engoron: "I beseech you to control him, if you can."The judge warns Kise that if he will control Trump if the lawyer doesn't.— Adam Klasfeld (@KlasfeldReports) November 6, 2023
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 6 November 2023 15:53 (five months ago) link
Reporter: Mr. Trump how’s it going in there?Trump: 🤐 pic.twitter.com/ORTSg6t3zc— Acyn (@Acyn) November 6, 2023
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 6 November 2023 16:09 (five months ago) link
Judge should punish him by forcing him to take LSD and then try to cross the street outside of the courthouse
― real warm grandpa (Neanderthal), Monday, 6 November 2023 16:10 (five months ago) link
^^ what a world this would be.
― tobo73, Monday, 6 November 2023 16:11 (five months ago) link
then forcing him to eat at gunpoint a dead cat
― hat trick of trashiness (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 6 November 2023 16:16 (five months ago) link
aka Steve Bannon
― real warm grandpa (Neanderthal), Monday, 6 November 2023 16:18 (five months ago) link
Gristly.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 6 November 2023 16:19 (five months ago) link
thought you were going to say "aka McDonald's Filet o Fish"
― hat trick of trashiness (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 6 November 2023 16:19 (five months ago) link
a dead cat
Trump himself does have, as the kids say, orange cat energy.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 6 November 2023 16:23 (five months ago) link
“Donald Trump just declared this an unfair trail” “Do you have more information on that?”“A very very unfair” pic.twitter.com/SKYeIVPTSW— Acyn (@Acyn) November 6, 2023
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 6 November 2023 16:26 (five months ago) link
“A very very unfair” for December US Politics thread title
― The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 6 November 2023 16:34 (five months ago) link
Such genius
NYAG's counsel confronts Trump with the deed stating that "the Club and Trump intend to forever extinguish their right to develop or use the Property for any purpose other than club use."Trump parses: "'Intend' doesn’t mean we will do it."— Adam Klasfeld (@KlasfeldReports) November 6, 2023
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 6 November 2023 16:59 (five months ago) link
I heard he has got an agreement with dept of interior or whatever the US heritage is called that it will remain a club and not be developed and he receives tax easements through this agreement so saying you can just say fuck 'em doesn't stack up!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 6 November 2023 17:07 (five months ago) link
Funny how it works
After Trump repeats his talking points about the disclaimer clause, Wallace tells him he already said that."I'm trying to make you understand it," Trump replies.— Adam Klasfeld (@KlasfeldReports) November 6, 2023
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 6 November 2023 17:13 (five months ago) link
Trump rails on about the "fraudulent" decision, claiming Engoron believed a political "hack" over him, referring to the NYAG.Wallace: "Are you done?"— Adam Klasfeld (@KlasfeldReports) November 6, 2023
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 6 November 2023 17:17 (five months ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noGHvxUtIy0
― The First Time Ever I Saw Gervais (Tom D.), Monday, 6 November 2023 18:32 (five months ago) link
So far Trump's defenses have largely been along the line of "Yeah, I signed/said it, but I didn't mean it."
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 6 November 2023 19:33 (five months ago) link
Wasn't that his defense of the bleach recommendation? "I was just joking, I wanted to see how'd you react."
― henry s, Monday, 6 November 2023 19:36 (five months ago) link
"Aberdeen is the oil capital of Europe, very rich..." Trump says, at which point, the judge interjects: "Irrelevant!"Trump adds softly, "It is."— erica orden (@eorden) November 6, 2023
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 6 November 2023 19:36 (five months ago) link
I know the criminal cases are juicier because of the dream of putting him behind bars, but I think this fraud case is going to be massively consequential for him, especially with the genius move of mouthing off to a judge who has sole discretion over his entire fortune.
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Monday, 6 November 2023 19:37 (five months ago) link
It probably works well for his fundraising side but when the judge is dismissing every defence from his attorney's as "whistling past the graveyard" you might think it's a terrible tactic and the level of disgorgement to come is going to be more high than low from what is already a high baseline!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 6 November 2023 19:45 (five months ago) link
This exchange making the rounds as a major gotcha:
Judge Engoran: Proceed.NY AG lawyer: Mr. Trump, the court officer is handing you PX 416, Deutsche Bank, term loan agreement 2012. Let's go to page 6. Is that your signature?Trump: Yes.NY AG lawyer: Page 105, the guaranty, did you sign it?Trump: Yes.NY AG lawyer: This says "in order to induce lending" - you see that?Trump: Yes.NY AG lawyer: Little Roman i, it says as of June 30, 2011 - do you believe it was true and accurate?Trump: Yeah, I do.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 6 November 2023 19:49 (five months ago) link
After Trump again brings up the disclaimer clause, giving a lengthy statement about how it is comprehensive and goes on forever, AG lawyer Kevin Wallace says, "Well, that clause isn’t the only thing that goes on forever."— erica orden (@eorden) November 6, 2023
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 6 November 2023 19:52 (five months ago) link
This whole thing is so rich
Trump says his net worth was far greater than on the financial statements. “Therefore, you have no case.”NYAG prosecutor: “Umm”— Hugo Lowell (@hugolowell) November 6, 2023
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 6 November 2023 19:53 (five months ago) link
Put your hand in the hand of the man who conned the donors
― a very very unfair (Neanderthal), Monday, 6 November 2023 19:58 (five months ago) link
“Trump testified that he believed he was worth more than his financial statements reflected, concluding: “Therefore, you have no case.”
As for the banks and insurers, Trump again pointed to the disclaimer clause, describing it as an extensive caveat that “goes on forever.”
Kevin Wallace, the lawyer for James’ office who was questioning Trump, replied: “Well, that clause isn’t the only thing that goes on forever.”
In between battling the judge, Trump’s lawyers heaped praise on their client, with Kise calling Trump’s answers “great” and “brilliant,” even while admitting, “I’m just not sure what he’s answering.” Kise also referred to Trump as the “former and soon-to-be chief executive of the United States.””
Reading this almost made me miss being a newspaper reporter, covering courts
https://www.politico.com/news/2023/11/06/trump-civil-fraud-trial-00125515
― The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 7 November 2023 00:17 (five months ago) link
Kise also said Trump will be the next Golden Bachelor.
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 7 November 2023 00:29 (five months ago) link
On his way out of court, Kise further applauded Trump’s performance, telling reporters: “In 33 years, I’ve never had a witness testify better.”
The level of sycophancy that this guy demands is so gross. Just odious.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 7 November 2023 02:37 (five months ago) link
yeah it’s for the paycheck right
― that genius dn i thought of on Zing but couldn't update to (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 7 November 2023 02:58 (five months ago) link
That's the weird thing, supposedly Kise got paid up front. (Which, credit to him, everyone else should have figured that out long ago.) I guess he figures doing all this nonsense is worth it.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 7 November 2023 03:11 (five months ago) link
ha! ty i obv didn’t remember that.
― that genius dn i thought of on Zing but couldn't update to (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 7 November 2023 03:18 (five months ago) link
Kise is allegedly the most highly reputable of the Trump legal team, which isn't saying much. He might think peers will understand that you have to be an obsequious creep to work for him and if he faced the press and said it truly was a cringeworthy and legally disastrous performance from his client, well then he'd be sacked and Trump would probably be suing him. But still he went much further than he needed to there!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 7 November 2023 11:34 (five months ago) link
https://i.insider.com/65492a67b788914e555106ef?width=1000&format=jpeg&auto=webp
https://media1.giphy.com/media/wu2nCG9rOy7AY/giphy.webp?cid=6c09b952p9jk43lltkdanzqhivygxwy3ee0uk5n3uxajg5xx&ep=v1_internal_gif_by_id&rid=giphy.webp&ct=g
― BrianB, Tuesday, 7 November 2023 12:22 (five months ago) link
Worth a read for y'all struggling to understand Trump's appeal to Cubans:
To many Republicans, the multiple criminal cases against Trump aren’t viewed as the just desserts of a norm-busting former president who broke the law or inspired angry people to sack the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021; they’re seen as “the weaponization of the justice system. And for those who fled dictatorships, that’s a red flag,” said Diaz-Balart.
“Trump is being persecuted unfairly. It’s not a prosecution. It’s the banana republic so many of us fled,” said Rafael Montalvo, who was part of the failed 1961 Bay of Pigs invasion in Cuba and is the president of Brigade 2506 Veterans Association.
The association made its first presidential primary endorsement ever in 2016 by backing Trump and Montalvo said “the Cuban community will always stand by Trump because he stood by us. I like DeSantis. He is great. He will make a great president one day. But he is our governor. Trump is our president.”
Guillermo J. Grenier, who conducts the widely respected Cuba Poll for Florida International University where he’s a sociology professor, said many Trump is a “political Rorschach” where people see what they want, and Cuban Americans and immigrants are no different.
Many voters view Trump as a strong man for tough times, he said, and they see the former New York developer and TV star of ‘The Apprentice” as the “pinnacle of success” who also is “the underdog, someone who has overcome in their view every smear and he’s talked truth to power. And Cubans identify with that here because they feel like they made Miami through hard work: ‘We’re the underdog. We made it.’ That’s just the DNA of this place.”
― hat trick of trashiness (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 7 November 2023 19:04 (five months ago) link
The man has a gold shitter. He's no underdog.
― Yngwie Azalea (stevie), Tuesday, 7 November 2023 19:14 (five months ago) link
The irony is, Trump is a weakling and a coward.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 7 November 2023 19:16 (five months ago) link
Most "strong men" are
― Dwigt Rortugal (Eric H.), Tuesday, 7 November 2023 19:18 (five months ago) link
so that all boils down to: he had a TV show, Biden never had his own TV show
― Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 7 November 2023 19:30 (five months ago) link
Alfred, can I ask what role you think racism plays in Trump’s high esteem among Cubans? Having a lot more friends and people around from Puerto Rico, Haiti, and the DR has opened my eyes to some of the racial dynamics at play in these communities, but I’m curious what you think
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Tuesday, 7 November 2023 19:31 (five months ago) link
He routinely “punches down” at people with lesser economic, social and political power. And somehow his fans see that as a sign of strength. This will always baffle me.
― tobo73, Tuesday, 7 November 2023 19:32 (five months ago) link
― Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, November 7, 2023 1:30 PM (two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
Take heed, White House media team
― The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 7 November 2023 19:33 (five months ago) link
anecdotal but one of my friend's mother's growing up was Cuban and any time her daughter went to a dance, she instructed her not to accept dance requests from Puerto Ricans
― a very very unfair (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 7 November 2023 19:34 (five months ago) link
― The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings)
Three's Company reboot with Biden as Mr. Furley.
― nickn, Tuesday, 7 November 2023 19:37 (five months ago) link
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table)
With the younger ones the racism is harder to see; they grew up in a more integrated society (not that Batista-era Cuba had Jim Crow).
My parents and grandparents? For damn sure. Exceptionalism reigns. The Black family friend is treated no differently than the rest (we have a cliche: "Juanito's not Black, he's Cuban!"), but Blacks as a group are regarded as aggrieved, in some cases The Real Racists.
Trump's support among the Hialeahans cited in the article has little to do with racism: it's xenophobia. The Bootstrap Ethos: "We made it; if you can't, fuck you." The Cubans my grandparents age think they earned the Cuban Adjustment Act -- the most generous and far-reaching assimilation law ever signed by an American president -- by demonstrating how hard they worked, not realizing that, as even Joan Didion figured out, they arrived in Miami as the Civil Rights and Voting Rights acts passed and promptly took those middle management jobs (supers, bank managers, small business owners, etc.) that would've gone to Miami Blacks as Jim Crow dissolved.
Finally: I've written about this a lot. Those Cubans don't hate Fidel because he was a dictator -- they hate him because he was the wrong kind of dictator. He was one of them, a member of the elite (he went to Belen and studied law!). We like dictators.
― hat trick of trashiness (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 7 November 2023 19:48 (five months ago) link
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"Live and let live, I always say"
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 7 November 2023 19:49 (five months ago) link
xp When I lived in Perú, I got the sense that many people resented Fujimori not because he was a dictator, but because he was a Chino.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 7 November 2023 19:51 (five months ago) link
The upper class who benefited from Batista disdained him for being mulatto.
― hat trick of trashiness (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 7 November 2023 19:57 (five months ago) link
They mockingly called it "la blandadura" LOL
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 7 November 2023 19:58 (five months ago) link
Thanks for that response, Alfred!
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Tuesday, 7 November 2023 20:25 (five months ago) link
a pleasure
― hat trick of trashiness (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 7 November 2023 20:55 (five months ago) link
I meant "la dictablanda," which is actually funnier because it makes sense.
Alberto Fujimori is still rotting in prison afaik. Which, I suppose, is some reason for optimism.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 8 November 2023 12:49 (five months ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/pzDkNyG.jpg
― epistantophus, Wednesday, 8 November 2023 19:38 (five months ago) link
Doesn't Peru have like three different ex-presidents currently in jail? xp
It's a nice thought
― Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 8 November 2023 19:46 (five months ago) link
ivanka will outsmart the NYC DA's office
― reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 8 November 2023 20:46 (five months ago) link
you may be mistaking them with the number of ex-cleveland browns head coaches still under contract
― mookieproof, Thursday, 9 November 2023 09:11 (five months ago) link
;_;
― brownie, Thursday, 9 November 2023 13:17 (five months ago) link
Heckuva job, brownie
― deep wubs and tribral rhythms (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 9 November 2023 14:01 (five months ago) link
xxp Yes, Perú has three ex-presidents currently in the same prison.
When I lived there in the early 90s, the immediate past president had fled the country to escape corruption charges. He later returned and was re-elected. He would likely be in prison as well if he hadn't shot himself in the head in 2019.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 9 November 2023 14:18 (five months ago) link
i cannot believe i didn't realize the number of peruvian ex prez in prison because i've been there and have like cousins there. i am aware of fujimori's daughter tho, who is running for the third time or fourth time in 24 or 6. def trumpy authoritarian elections-are-frauds type i understand
― digital chirping and whirring (Hunt3r), Thursday, 9 November 2023 14:38 (five months ago) link
the whole fujimori-shining path conflagration is one the the darker crazier political things in recent history
― lag∞n, Thursday, 9 November 2023 14:53 (five months ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/KwOSVnV.png
neck going crazy
― lag∞n, Thursday, 9 November 2023 20:14 (five months ago) link
https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/villains/images/6/6f/Henrietta_after_her_transformation.png/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/250?cb=20130904000726
― Dwigt Rortugal (Eric H.), Thursday, 9 November 2023 20:29 (five months ago) link
Brodigliani
― il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Thursday, 9 November 2023 21:06 (five months ago) link
Have to stretch it out to unhinge the jaw.
― nickn, Thursday, 9 November 2023 21:49 (five months ago) link
staring right at the illustrator: "how dare you, you filthy peon?"
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 9 November 2023 22:09 (five months ago) link
serious question: who is that supposed to be?
― assert (matttkkkk), Thursday, 9 November 2023 22:28 (five months ago) link
ivanka
― lag∞n, Thursday, 9 November 2023 22:30 (five months ago) link
giger has really hit hard times. sad.wait— he’s dead?
― digital chirping and whirring (Hunt3r), Thursday, 9 November 2023 22:42 (five months ago) link
I think Barron drew that
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 9 November 2023 22:46 (five months ago) link
Judge is really giving somebody the business in that sketch!
― henry s, Thursday, 9 November 2023 23:17 (five months ago) link
alina habba: "another Trump child was dragged into court today..." - not even appending ‘adult’ to one of the Trump children suggests to me some kind of fucked up psychological dynamic
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 10 November 2023 00:40 (five months ago) link
think of the children!
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 10 November 2023 00:42 (five months ago) link
I don’t want to think of these children anymore (I never wanted to)
― The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 10 November 2023 00:50 (five months ago) link
Is she calling a special advisor to the White House (or whatever Ivanka’s ridic title was) a child?
― tobo73, Friday, 10 November 2023 01:04 (five months ago) link
Today in Trump NYC trial:
Per Adam Klasfeld's reports on Twitter, Judge Engoron is basically overruling every AG objection to whatever evidence Trump wants to admit, which has to be very heartwarming for the AG and terrifying for Trump's lawyers
When the judge is being very, very nice to you, they are either in the tank for your side, or you are absolutely fucked and the judge wants to make sure you have no space for appeal. Guess which is more likely here.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 13 November 2023 22:42 (five months ago) link
https://abcnews.go.com/US/boss-leave-proffer-videos-show-trump-lawyers-telling/story?id=104831939
As part of a plea deal, one of former President Donald Trump's attorneys has told prosecutors in Georgia that she was informed in the wake of the 2020 election that Donald Trump was "not going to leave" the White House -- despite the fact that he had already lost the election and most of his subsequent challenges.The revelation, along with others, came during a confidential interview the attorney, Jenna Ellis, had with Fulton County investigators. ABC News has obtained portions of videos of the proffer sessions of both Ellis and Sidney Powell, two attorneys who aided Trump's efforts to overturn the election.
The revelation, along with others, came during a confidential interview the attorney, Jenna Ellis, had with Fulton County investigators. ABC News has obtained portions of videos of the proffer sessions of both Ellis and Sidney Powell, two attorneys who aided Trump's efforts to overturn the election.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 13 November 2023 22:52 (five months ago) link
NYT covering Hillary Clinton’s “deplorables” remark vs NYT covering Donald Trump’s “vermin” remark. pic.twitter.com/SR2gLIlEvb— Gabe Ortíz (@TUSK81) November 12, 2023
― stuffing your suit pockets with cold, stale chicken tende (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 14 November 2023 00:55 (five months ago) link
can't he just die already? DIE DIE DIE DUD
― Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 14 November 2023 01:08 (five months ago) link
All sounds promising but (presses snooze button) wake me when this guy faces actual muthaflippin consequences.
Honestly? Hearing about how _close_ Trump is to legal jeopardy is approximately as interesting as the year-plus when Sidney Powell was going to release the Kraken.
― don't let days go by, Listerine (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 14 November 2023 01:27 (five months ago) link
Break: Former president Trump's Truth Social has lost $73M since launching last year, and has brought in only $3.7M in net sales. https://t.co/RndlL2Gtme— Alex Weprin (@alexweprin) November 13, 2023
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 14 November 2023 01:51 (five months ago) link
Owning the Libs, or Actually Just Saying Things We Know Would Absolutely Own the Libs If Any Were On This Platform, For Only $110k Per Day.
― assert (matttkkkk), Tuesday, 14 November 2023 01:59 (five months ago) link
I was in an eaterie a few months ago (in Wall Drug in fact), and the two TVs on the wall were respectively tuned to Fox News and Truth Social. Both seemed to be talking about Hunter Biden's laptop a lot, in fact endlessly. Possibly the target market for this new addition to the media landscape don't, in fact, give a flying one about 'the laptop', but that seems to be what they get.
― I don't want to catastrophise but there's a catastrophe looming (Matt #2), Tuesday, 14 November 2023 02:15 (five months ago) link
i don't think the times is biased toward trump in any way, or that they ever minimized his danger. people who get their news from the times are aware of how horrific he is. the issue is that the people who support him do not get their news from the new york times. they live in a completely different media ecosystem and are exposed to a completely different set of facts. the new york times going harder on him would not effect anything at all -- he would still have his supporters. xp
― treeship., Tuesday, 14 November 2023 03:10 (five months ago) link
the "normalization" discourse was always dumb. it was clear to anyone who wanted to see who he was, and this was always reported in the mainstream press as far as i can see. perhaps sometimes they were softer on him that i would have been, or something, but the point is this is not why he has the base he does. his supporters watch things like newsmax.
― treeship., Tuesday, 14 November 2023 03:11 (five months ago) link
I’m maybe in the minority here, but as a subscriber, I say the NYT goes pretty hard against Trump
― Dwigt Rortugal (Eric H.), Tuesday, 14 November 2023 03:12 (five months ago) link
i think they did in 2016 too. the reason hillary's "depolorables" remark stuck and this much worse "vermin" one won't is because the latter is drowned out by a million other horrific things he says or does. it's nothing to do with unbalanced coverage the way that tweet up there implied.
― treeship., Tuesday, 14 November 2023 03:16 (five months ago) link
Yeah, he floods the zone with newsworthy shittiness.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 14 November 2023 03:28 (five months ago) link
the NYT is shitty for a number of reasons but going easy on Trump is not one of them. I hate to 'both sides' this but the left and right do the same media grievance shit when the reality is what treesh said, if everything Trump did was covered the way emails and "deplorables" was there would have to be like 15x more news
― frogbs, Tuesday, 14 November 2023 03:47 (five months ago) link
The NYT, yes, opposes Trump, but like many liberals and lib types it has no idea how to deal with a pathogen that doesn't acknowledge the paper's hegemony and mores, thus they way too often minimize the threat.
― stuffing your suit pockets with cold, stale chicken tende (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 14 November 2023 10:40 (five months ago) link
^^^^^^^^^^^
― a (waterface), Tuesday, 14 November 2023 13:29 (five months ago) link
EXCLUSIVE: ABC News has obtained video from Georgia prosecutors' interview with ex-Trump attorney Jenna Ellis, in which Ellis tells them she was personally informed by a top Trump adviser that Trump was "not going to leave" the White House — despite losing the 2020 election.… pic.twitter.com/J9c4bm9cbZ— ABC News (@ABC) November 13, 2023
And yet ... she kept banging the drum for them.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 14 November 2023 13:43 (five months ago) link
I’m not sure they are in a position to do anything different from what they have been doing. His base does not recognize them as legitimate. And there are no people left who consume both the new york times and fox news and try to decide which one they agree with. Completely separate audiences.
― treeship., Tuesday, 14 November 2023 13:43 (five months ago) link
Xp lol, these “flippers” hope they will be rehabilitated like michael cohen sort of was. Alas they will not.
― treeship., Tuesday, 14 November 2023 13:44 (five months ago) link
People at least pity cohen. He has a wounded basset hound quality.
― frogbs, Tuesday, November 14, 2023 3:47 AM (nine hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
vs
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/14/upshot/trump-abortion-republicans-2024-election.html
🚨🚨 LISTEN >> Donald Trump BRAGS that “nobody has ever done more” to ban abortion across the country by “[putting] 3 Supreme Court justices who all voted” to overturn Roe v. Wade. https://t.co/Ek45N2WF51— DNC War Room (@DNCWarRoom) January 17, 2023
― a (waterface), Tuesday, 14 November 2023 13:47 (five months ago) link
They are just reporting on public perception. They are not saying he should be seen as a moderate on abortion, just that he is for some incomprehensible reason.
― treeship., Tuesday, 14 November 2023 13:49 (five months ago) link
In fact, that article cites examples of Trump taking full credit for banning abortion
― Dwigt Rortugal (Eric H.), Tuesday, 14 November 2023 13:50 (five months ago) link
Cohen was a Trump henchman/legal thug/fixer though wasn't he? and he even said he'd take a bullet for him at the time. I feel quite sure he is a despicable person who has done lots of bad stuff to people on behalf of Trump, that he still hasn't properly atoned for. Great accent though!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 14 November 2023 13:54 (five months ago) link
He would have taken a bullet for trump and did, going to jail because he did something trump told him to do. And then when he was in jail Trump insulted him nonstop.
― treeship., Tuesday, 14 November 2023 13:56 (five months ago) link
There is pathos there. He obviously is a bad guy.
― treeship., Tuesday, 14 November 2023 13:57 (five months ago) link
Michael Cohen did go to jail for a year, that's more than most of these morons have been punished. Steve Bannon is still walking free like he's King Turd.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 14 November 2023 13:58 (five months ago) link
"like"
― stuffing your suit pockets with cold, stale chicken tende (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 14 November 2023 13:58 (five months ago) link
Before he flipped I saw Michael Cohen standing around outside when I was coming back from lunch. I think he was at an event for his daughter. I almost said something nasty to him but he looked so sad and lost.
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Tuesday, 14 November 2023 17:18 (five months ago) link
good
― the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 14 November 2023 17:20 (five months ago) link
Classic Tweet:
cohen has this certain hangdog je ne sleaze quoi that ... idk id hit it, that’s all i’ll say— . (@swordsjew) February 27, 2019
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 14 November 2023 19:21 (five months ago) link
lol bring it
New filing: "U.S. v. Hunter Biden (gun charges)"Doc #58: Motion for Miscellaneous ReliefPDF: https://t.co/G9JKr4duPn#CL67511701— Big Cases Bot (@big_cases) November 15, 2023
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 15 November 2023 15:21 (five months ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/nRKKMsq.png
― i really like that!! (z_tbd), Friday, 24 November 2023 16:05 (four months ago) link
More capital letters than Thomas Mann in the German.
― stuffing your suit pockets with cold, stale chicken tende (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 24 November 2023 16:07 (four months ago) link
ALL, FLOURISH,FLEE;ME,PROOF,WEAPONIZHELL;RINOS,STROY OUR COUNTRYWINMAKE ERICA GREAT AGAIN
donald trump is a new farm animal and the sound he makes is STAWNK!!
― i really like that!! (z_tbd), Friday, 24 November 2023 16:12 (four months ago) link
what's it gonna taaaaaaaaake
― stuffing your suit pockets with cold, stale chicken tende (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 24 November 2023 16:12 (four months ago) link
everybody knows how to dance, even with just one more-STAAAAAWNK! *airhorn*
i jest at all this even though it's kind of terrifying to think about the number of people who like this, who want this man back on their screens again with even more frequency, so that politics can be more like tv again
― i really like that!! (z_tbd), Friday, 24 November 2023 16:20 (four months ago) link
Who could've guessed that he'd repeatedly violate his gag order?
― Chyiv Kyiv (Fetchboy), Friday, 24 November 2023 16:22 (four months ago) link
in the Ruby Freeman/Shaye Moss defamation case, Giuliani's lawyer has filed a motion for a bench trial next month rather than face a jury to decide how much of whatever is left of his personal fortune he is going to lose. Lol, he is so fucked .. the arc of the moral universe is long ... etc
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 24 November 2023 16:48 (four months ago) link
I can't tell whether that screed is more unhinged than the time he gave thanks for himself, or less.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 24 November 2023 19:29 (four months ago) link
Special counsel Jack Smith has extracted data from the cell phone Donald Trump used while in the White House and plans to present evidence of his findings to a Washington, D.C. jury to demonstrate how Trump used the phone in the weeks during which he attempted to subvert the 2020 election.
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Tuesday, 12 December 2023 00:34 (four months ago) link
17 days without a bump, what bliss
― out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Tuesday, 12 December 2023 01:09 (four months ago) link
Probably more than Don Jr. could say.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 12 December 2023 01:24 (four months ago) link
heyooooo
― out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Tuesday, 12 December 2023 02:19 (four months ago) link
A+
― Large, Complex, Detailed but Irrefutable POST (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 12 December 2023 02:59 (four months ago) link
this bump seems fairly promising tho?
― impostor syndrome to the (expletive) max (stevie), Tuesday, 12 December 2023 09:20 (four months ago) link
[he said, licking his lips]
― impostor syndrome to the (expletive) max (stevie), Tuesday, 12 December 2023 09:22 (four months ago) link
Fuck it, I don't know, I've been so miserable about Trump a) escaping any censure b) winning election c) becoming dictatorial tyrant until his death that I'm willing to cheer this guy doing his best to pre-circumvent Trump's lawyers' circumventions.
― impostor syndrome to the (expletive) max (stevie), Tuesday, 12 December 2023 09:24 (four months ago) link
for the March 4th trial Jack Smith is apparently going to play a video history of Trump's election result denial going back as far as Obama/Romney to a jury and his recorded history of denying the validity of absentee ballots when they don't favour him. It must look quite insane behaviour when shown in series, almost hilarious.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 12 December 2023 11:48 (four months ago) link
Has anyone written anything about how you might try to run a campaign for the US presidency from jail?
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 12 December 2023 11:52 (four months ago) link
there is precedent!
https://images.jacobinmag.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/16062225/debs-prisoner.jpg
― mark s, Tuesday, 12 December 2023 12:09 (four months ago) link
Debs would have been the best pres ever tho, placing him in the same category as this fascist goon is a grave insult to Debs
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Tuesday, 12 December 2023 12:31 (four months ago) link
Every member of Congress would've lined up to shoot him on Inauguration Day, so we would never have known.
― stuffing your suit pockets with cold, stale chicken tende (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 12 December 2023 12:46 (four months ago) link
"Debs ran as a Socialist candidate for President of the United States five times: 1900 (earning 0.6 percent of the popular vote), 1904 (3.0 percent), 1908 (2.8 percent), 1912 (6.0 percent), and 1920 (3.4 percent), the last time from a prison cell."
Percentage stayed fairly constant. So running from jail not a factor.
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 12 December 2023 13:53 (four months ago) link
Anyway it will be wild to see the logistics behind the run.
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 12 December 2023 13:54 (four months ago) link
Holy ha ha at his new shill for NFTs:
https://✧✧✧.thre✧✧✧.n✧✧✧@aa✧✧✧.ru✧✧✧/post/C0wrdFWAY_1
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 12 December 2023 17:53 (four months ago) link
Weird, why does that happen? Let's try this:
https://www.threads.net ✧@aa✧✧✧.ru✧✧✧/post/C0wrdFWAY_1
Huh. Weird.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 12 December 2023 17:54 (four months ago) link
Mastodon and Threads don't link well here for some reason
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 12 December 2023 17:58 (four months ago) link
replace @ with "at" it's the site method for googleproofing email addresses iirc
― that's when I reach for my copy of Revolver (WmC), Tuesday, 12 December 2023 18:03 (four months ago) link
https://www.threads.net/ataaron.rupar/post/C0wrdFWAY_1
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 12 December 2023 18:07 (four months ago) link
i support all threads relating to NFTs getting a really weird unusable link
― z_tbd, Tuesday, 12 December 2023 18:13 (four months ago) link
Makes sense that Trump Inc. would still be on the NFT grift. It's like he always likes to have a few lawsuit pokers in the lawsuit fire, just in case.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 12 December 2023 18:17 (four months ago) link
selling dumb cartoons that don't actually exist to gullible rubes is a Trump dream come true
― Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 12 December 2023 18:22 (four months ago) link
The fine print says they're for 'enjoyment' and 'not an investment'.
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 12 December 2023 18:29 (four months ago) link
like pogs!
― z_tbd, Tuesday, 12 December 2023 18:30 (four months ago) link
"I wish I looked as good as I do on those cards, that I can tell you. They give me muscles where, believe me, I don't have them. But the wang, there's no problem there, right folks?"
― Large, Complex, Detailed but Irrefutable POST (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 12 December 2023 19:41 (four months ago) link
The best part of it is selling scraps of the suit he wore for his mugshot. Amazing.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 12 December 2023 19:45 (four months ago) link
my memento victrola shit not panning out what now
― digital chirping and whirring (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 12 December 2023 23:49 (four months ago) link
he says scraps of the suit he was wearing when he was booked into Fulton jail was a very nice suit and it's something you can give to your kids and grandkids 🤣
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 13 December 2023 08:25 (four months ago) link
Maybe that's the gift that will get them to speak to you again...
― papal hotwife (milo z), Wednesday, 13 December 2023 09:45 (four months ago) link
what's the over/under on whether Trump will surround himself with people wearing Trump masks/Trump lookalikes, so that when it's time to take him to jail, "they won't know which one to arrest"
― Formica Jordan (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 13 December 2023 22:44 (four months ago) link
who on the entire planet Earth looks like Donald Trump
― frogbs, Wednesday, 13 December 2023 22:47 (four months ago) link
Trump runs cackling into a hall of mirrors
― omar little, Wednesday, 13 December 2023 22:47 (four months ago) link
― frogbs, Wednesday, December 13, 2023 5:47 PM bookmarkflaglink
Trump Surgery
― Formica Jordan (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 13 December 2023 23:02 (four months ago) link
Eventually, there will be more pieces of the "Trump booking suit" than there were pieces of the True Cross.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 13 December 2023 23:03 (four months ago) link
Ship of Trumpeus
― Formica Jordan (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 13 December 2023 23:10 (four months ago) link
The Shroud of Urine
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Wednesday, 13 December 2023 23:42 (four months ago) link
Damn.
-applause.gif-
― m0stly clean (Slowsquatch), Wednesday, 13 December 2023 23:47 (four months ago) link
I am SparTrumpCus.
― CthulhuLululemon (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 14 December 2023 01:22 (four months ago) link
life imitates arrested development which imitated trump
― impostor syndrome to the (expletive) max (stevie), Thursday, 14 December 2023 09:11 (four months ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/p08weEX.png
https://i.imgur.com/UTgq1E2.png
― z_tbd, Friday, 15 December 2023 18:48 (four months ago) link
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 15 December 2023 18:51 (four months ago) link
This is just to sayI apologizefor my actionsin connectionwith Count 19 of this indictment:"Eating plums"that were "yours."
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Friday, 15 December 2023 18:57 (four months ago) link
Forgive meThey were seditious
― CthulhuLululemon (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 15 December 2023 18:59 (four months ago) link
Now the judge will force all of Georgia to hug them both and make up
― stephen miller is not your friend (Eric H.), Friday, 15 December 2023 19:10 (four months ago) link
― CthulhuLululemon (Ye Mad Puffin)
lolol
― stuffing your suit pockets with cold, stale chicken tende (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 15 December 2023 19:12 (four months ago) link
Surely the judge could've at least had them write it a hundred times on the blackboard
― Great-Tasting Burger Perceptions (Old Lunch), Friday, 15 December 2023 19:20 (four months ago) link
why didn't sidney powell draw a little cartoon of herself rolling her eyes under her signature
― z_tbd, Friday, 15 December 2023 19:22 (four months ago) link
Has this come up yet?
A 10in-thick binder containing nearly 3,000 pages of highly classified material related to the investigation of Russian election interference as well as links between Moscow and Donald Trump went missing in the final days of his presidency, CNN and the New York Times reported.
CNN said the disappearance raised alarms in the American intelligence community because “some of the most closely guarded national security secrets from the US and its allies could be exposed”.
The Times said national security officials were “vexed” by the disappearance of the “Crossfire Hurricane binder”, which was “the name given to the investigation by the FBI”.
The issue was so concerning, the Times added, the Senate intelligence committee was briefed.
Apparently it was at the White House, and then it just wasn't there
― Andy the Grasshopper, Saturday, 16 December 2023 00:06 (four months ago) link
Why bother to have a copy of any of it?
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Saturday, 16 December 2023 00:11 (four months ago) link
Investigators looking for the Crossfire Hurricane binder reportedly got no satisfaction.
― CthulhuLululemon (Ye Mad Puffin), Saturday, 16 December 2023 00:26 (four months ago) link
Trump thought it was one of Romney's binders full of women
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 16 December 2023 00:30 (four months ago) link
― CthulhuLululemon (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, December 15, 2023 4:26 PM
Don't jump to conclusions, Jack.
― nickn, Saturday, 16 December 2023 04:10 (four months ago) link
I’ve got no expectations.
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Saturday, 16 December 2023 14:31 (four months ago) link
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 12 December 2023 bookmarkflaglink
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/dec/18/imran-khan-deploys-ai-clone-to-campaign-from-behind-bars-in-pakistan
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 18 December 2023 12:11 (four months ago) link
Can a NFT run for President?
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 18 December 2023 13:44 (four months ago) link
Bored Apraham Lincoln
― m0stly clean (Slowsquatch), Monday, 18 December 2023 14:09 (four months ago) link
N.F.T.
― close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Monday, 18 December 2023 14:39 (four months ago) link
Chester Ape Arthur
fuck it, post
― Ethinically Ambigaus (Bananaman Begins), Monday, 18 December 2023 14:53 (four months ago) link
How lovely to end 2023 with one of the most batshit columns the NYT has ever published:
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/18/opinion/trump-election-2024.html#commentsContainer
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 18 December 2023 15:10 (four months ago) link
But both sides consistently misread Mr. Trump’s success. He isn’t edging ahead of Mr. Biden in swing states because Americans are eager to submit to authoritarianism, and he isn’t attracting the backing of significant numbers of Black and Hispanic voters because they support white supremacy. His success is not a sign that America is prepared to embrace the ideas of the extreme right. Mr. Trump enjoys enduring support because he is perceived by many voters — often with good reason — as a pragmatic if unpredictable kind of moderate.
oh, nothing to worry about then
in other places that aren't the NYT opinion section, it seems like the rhetoric has shifted a bit - i've noticed more and more people just calling trump what a fascist (including the white house), making direction connections to christian nationalists and their willingness to hand power over to a dictator so that they can impose their hateful beliefs on unbelievers. don't know if this will change things but i have to admit that calling things what they clearly are helps a lot with the "fog of total bullshit" that has descended upon the united states
― z_tbd, Monday, 18 December 2023 15:44 (four months ago) link
"often with good reason""often with good reason""often with good reason""often with good reason""often with good reason""often with good reason""often with good reason""often with good reason""often with good reason""often with good reason""often with good reason"
― stephen miller is not your friend (Eric H.), Monday, 18 December 2023 15:48 (four months ago) link
your 11 least-favourite NYT opinion clauses of the moment, fuck.
― stephen miller is not your friend (Eric H.), Monday, 18 December 2023 15:49 (four months ago) link
in other places that aren't the NYT opinion section, it seems like the rhetoric has shifted a bit - i've noticed more and more people just calling trump what a fascist
Not that it matters but flipping channels this morning I spotted lickspittle Jonathan Karl of ABC openly calling Trump's rhetoric at the last couple rallies "fascist."
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 18 December 2023 15:49 (four months ago) link
Now if we could just get someone to actually explain to an underinformed public what fascism is and why it's so bad and hated.
― Great-Tasting Burger Perceptions (Old Lunch), Monday, 18 December 2023 15:54 (four months ago) link
I think they know what it is and that's why they like it
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Monday, 18 December 2023 15:55 (four months ago) link
Rebrand fascism as communism if you want Americans to hate it
― the new drip king (DJP), Monday, 18 December 2023 16:00 (four months ago) link
or instead of "fascism" rebrand it as "COVID restrictions"
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 18 December 2023 16:01 (four months ago) link
the guy who wrote that batshit column is of course an editor at a virulently anti-immigration, nationalist, TERF-y publication
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Monday, 18 December 2023 16:06 (four months ago) link
Yeah this whole "ackshully, Trump is a moderate thing" is really baffling. I've heard it from both left and right. The guy is talking about how immigrants "poison the blood of the nation."
― Expansion to Mackerel (Boring, Maryland), Monday, 18 December 2023 16:23 (four months ago) link
They're bending over backwards to make "Trump has no iota of interest in anything political, or really anything that isn't his own lionization" become "Trump is a moderate, politically speaking"
― stephen miller is not your friend (Eric H.), Monday, 18 December 2023 16:24 (four months ago) link
Thank goodness it's December 2015 and we don't know what he's like in office.
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 18 December 2023 16:30 (four months ago) link
I am still quite adamant his poll numbers will decline next year when the campaign gets started in earnest and he picks a real whackadoo that normal people instantly hate as his VP.
― Expansion to Mackerel (Boring, Maryland), Monday, 18 December 2023 17:03 (four months ago) link
He isn’t edging ahead of Mr. Biden in swing states because Americans are eager to submit to authoritarianism
Then you're saying he'd be an authoritarian with poor approval ratings?
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Monday, 18 December 2023 17:07 (four months ago) link
VP Gary Busey
― Formica Jordan (Neanderthal), Monday, 18 December 2023 17:10 (four months ago) link
maybe to explain his numbers some analysis of the options being offered to the electorate might be in order
― Honnest Brish Face (Noodle Vague), Monday, 18 December 2023 17:14 (four months ago) link
Not to oversimplify things but I'm not sure the political appeal of Strong Man Who Will Solve Yr Problems and Smite Yr Enemies requires all that much analysis. Especially up against Weakish Old Man Who Made My Groceries Expensive.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Monday, 18 December 2023 18:02 (four months ago) link
Might be worth remembering what, if anything, Biden was last time around if not "Weakish Old Man who is NOT Trump" ... which speaks to Boring Maryland's point a few upthread
― stephen miller is not your friend (Eric H.), Monday, 18 December 2023 18:08 (four months ago) link
Was gonna say Trump's supporters are visibly quite comfortable with his authoritarianism. It doesn't matter to them if he uses extra-legal means or effectively destroys large parts of the social contract, so long as they think he'll reward them and suppress everything they disapprove of. These are not exactly deep thinkers we're talking about.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Monday, 18 December 2023 18:12 (four months ago) link
Independents, as always, will swing this thing, as will disgruntled Dems. Independents have begun swinging back Trump's way, but their support is always so much more tenuous than hard Ds and hard Rs.
― Formica Jordan (Neanderthal), Monday, 18 December 2023 18:14 (four months ago) link
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Monday, December 18, 2023 1:02 PM (twelve minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
And the first one lost already.
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 18 December 2023 18:16 (four months ago) link
again it's pretty hard to take polls seriously before a single primary vote has even been cast, a lot of this is just vibes at this point and the vibes have not been particularly good lately. but like you've got some showing RFK getting as much as 20%, so I dunno how much stock to put in these. I wonder if polls taken this far out are actually predictive of anything. fwiw I do think any illusion that Trump is 'moderate' is gonna be shattered as soon as the campaign actually starts. like obviously he has a path to converting independents if he says and does the right things but we all know that Trump will not, in fact between now and then he's going to say a hundred things that would be disqualifying for anyone else. and I also suspect the media is gonna cover him differently than they did in prior years, like every non-right wing journalist is gonna try to hammer him on the insurrection and 2020 election stuff and I don't think he's gonna respond to that in a normal way.
― frogbs, Monday, 18 December 2023 18:28 (four months ago) link
that said it wouldn't hurt the Dems to actually find a way to trumpet Biden's accomplishments some, it's really infuriating how from 2016-2020 every stock market record and decent jobs report was credited directly to Trump (even by the so-called left wing media!) while Biden's economy by the numbers has actually been significantly better and you don't hear a peep about it. like just imagine if gas had gone down to $2.70 under Trump's watch. you'd never hear the end of it. but instead Biden somehow takes all the blame for high food prices. idk I just think the Democrats have the worst PR people on the planet
― frogbs, Monday, 18 December 2023 18:32 (four months ago) link
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 18 December 2023 18:34 (four months ago) link
Congressional Dems rejected the idea of trumpeting Biden's economy
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Monday, 18 December 2023 18:35 (four months ago) link
Different games. Maybe it's because I just suffered through George Clooney's latest Greatest Generation rah-rah atrocity, but mainstream Dems are even still stymied by the lure of unity that by all appearances set sail decades ago. That is, suffice it to say, not the game its opposition is playing
― stephen miller is not your friend (Eric H.), Monday, 18 December 2023 18:36 (four months ago) link
idk I just think the Democrats the worst people on the planet
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Monday, 18 December 2023 18:36 (four months ago) link
YEP
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 18 December 2023 18:44 (four months ago) link
dunno, I can think of worse
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Monday, 18 December 2023 18:45 (four months ago) link
I get the impulse, but I'm not sure I'd sign off on the idea that the milquetoast fascist-enablers are actually worse than the fascists themselves.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 18 December 2023 18:52 (four months ago) link
I don't remember people universally thinking the economy was sunshine and roses under Trump.
https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2018/03/22/positive-views-of-economy-surge-driven-by-major-shifts-among-republicans/
https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2023/04/07/evaluations-of-the-economy-and-the-state-of-the-nation/
These do have some points of reference, though - healthcare and food costs the biggest issues for household economics, a sharp decline in people who thought the economy was going to improve after a year of Trump (only 10% of Democrats). For people who already owned houses they were seeing the value increase in big chunks in 2018, in 2023 the value of your house has flatlined but people who don't own still can't afford to buy.
― papal hotwife (milo z), Monday, 18 December 2023 18:52 (four months ago) link
I'll post a story about my recent adventures with a local politician running in 2o24 soon
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 18 December 2023 18:57 (four months ago) link
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 18 December 2023 18:58 (four months ago) link
It's funny, in Tennessee we actually have some pretty good Dems in office but I think a lot of it is because they're so powerless. It doesn't particularly cost them anything to argue for abortion rights, LGBTQ rights, immigrant rights, gun restrictions, labor rights, climate action ... because they don't have to worry about trying to put together a majority that can actually get those things passed. They write aspirational bills that get shitcanned in committee and never have to go through the compromises that would accompany them if they had any chance of becoming law.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Monday, 18 December 2023 19:10 (four months ago) link
Posting this a week after candidate filing deadline in TX = masterclass pic.twitter.com/d3WPLHKI1F— David Weigel (@daveweigel) December 19, 2023
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 19 December 2023 13:51 (four months ago) link
Chip Roy is a RINO? LOL
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 19 December 2023 13:53 (four months ago) link
Pissy baby is pissed because Roy didn't vote to overturn the results of the 2020 election, and because he's currently supporting DeSantis.
There needs to be a new acronym in this case. I propose CUNT: Conservative, Unfortunately Not Trumpy.
― Large, Complex, Detailed but Irrefutable POST (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 19 December 2023 18:49 (four months ago) link
At this point RINO is just an insult they throw around without regard to meaning. Sort of like how people get called TERFs when they are not feminists at all.
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Tuesday, 19 December 2023 19:02 (four months ago) link
It's code for "not one of us." You might as well call him a "Trotskyite."
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 19 December 2023 19:05 (four months ago) link
I believe it's spelled "troglodyte"
― stephen miller is not your friend (Eric H.), Tuesday, 19 December 2023 19:16 (four months ago) link
RINOSquishNeverTrumperNeoconDeep Stater
These all mean the same thing these days basically
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Tuesday, 19 December 2023 19:20 (four months ago) link
all republicans have to do to avoid becoming a RINO is commit eternal fealty towards a 91 times indicted, convicted rapist with early stage dementia, what's their problem?
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 19 December 2023 19:26 (four months ago) link
BREAKING: Colorado Supreme Court disqualifies Donald Trump from the state's presidential primary ballot under Section 3 of the 14th Amendment. The move sets up a battle before the U.S. Supreme Court. https://t.co/dfnRnBU3wS— ABC News Politics (@ABCPolitics) December 19, 2023
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 19 December 2023 23:28 (four months ago) link
― Formica Jordan (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 19 December 2023 23:29 (four months ago) link
I said this would never happen, so excellent work by my home state!
― digital chirping and whirring (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 19 December 2023 23:30 (four months ago) link
Coloradon't
― CthulhuLululemon (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 19 December 2023 23:32 (four months ago) link
Ron has a shot then!
― Expansion to Mackerel (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 19 December 2023 23:33 (four months ago) link
Doom-addicted pundits and bloggers sing as one: Oh, no, this will only make him stronger and more powerful...
― Tahuti Watches L&O:SVU Reruns Without His Ape (unperson), Tuesday, 19 December 2023 23:35 (four months ago) link
wow, the woke colorado supreme court
― z_tbd, Tuesday, 19 December 2023 23:44 (four months ago) link
Bold to call others a "RINO", he's the living embodiment of that term
Trump's political party affiliation has changed numerous times. He registered as a Republican in 1987; a member of the Independence Party, the New York state affiliate of the Reform Party, in 1999; a Democrat in 2001; a Republican in 2009; unaffiliated in 2011; and a Republican in 2012.
So he actually LEFT the GOP in 2001
― Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 19 December 2023 23:49 (four months ago) link
it's funny that any of this is even a question, since the constitution bans people who engage in insurrection from holding office, which trump obviously did (whenever it's suggested that there is anything other 100% certainty on this i feel gaslit as fuck and so do hundreds of millions of other people), but the u.s. supreme court will bail him out anyway.
― z_tbd, Tuesday, 19 December 2023 23:54 (four months ago) link
They haven't been real interested in saving Trump's ass so far
― the absence of bikes (f. hazel), Tuesday, 19 December 2023 23:59 (four months ago) link
I have a feeling they're going to hinge a lot on the Senate not convicting him. Just cannot see SCOTUS letting it stand. But also wtf do I know.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 00:20 (four months ago) link
I think even the most right-wing supreme court judges won't work towards reducing, even giving up their own judicial power, to suit a very strange nazi period of republican party history - that probably isn't that strange in the context of the history of US fascism, exceptions like Aileen Cannon seem like in a tiny minority.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 00:21 (four months ago) link
is Aileen Cannon a supreme court judge? fuck knows I'm going to bed!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 00:24 (four months ago) link
Dang, Donnie
― Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 00:26 (four months ago) link
I can see Clarence Thomas going for that but the other rightwing judges haven't really ruled in Trump's favor on anything so far
― frogbs, Wednesday, 20 December 2023 00:30 (four months ago) link
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, December 19, 2023
completely agree. although he's not going to win the general election in Colorado in any case
― Dan S, Wednesday, 20 December 2023 00:31 (four months ago) link
well this is some fabulous news!
― out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 00:32 (four months ago) link
Rudy, Colorado, what’s the third
― Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 00:33 (four months ago) link
Does SCOTUS even have to hear this? Or can they just mumble something about sovereign state election laws and let it stand
― Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 20 December 2023 00:37 (four months ago) link
The fight isn't really about Colorado — the suit was under the U.S. Constitution, if SCOTUS upholds it presumably it applies nationwide right? If you're violating the 14th Amendment in Denver, you're violating it in Des Moines.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 00:39 (four months ago) link
Anyway, his name is clearly going to stay on the primary ballot even in Colorado, because the order is stayed. But I guess we'll get an actual SCOTUS ruling on this. Interesting times.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 00:43 (four months ago) link
It will be interesting to see which states remove Biden from the ballot
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 00:49 (four months ago) link
thanks to hunter's nude freebasing
― Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 20 December 2023 00:55 (four months ago) link
Might as well be
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 00:59 (four months ago) link
i'd say both that yours is a very reasonable take but that unfortunately, no, recent history has shown that it's not a tiny minority: there are many judges who are just completely fraudulent pieces of shit and everyone knows it. clarence thomas couldn't possibly have more conflicts of interest. he'll be one of the votes that delivers trump
― z_tbd, Wednesday, 20 December 2023 00:59 (four months ago) link
He wasn’t going to win colorado anyway so I’m the end does this even matter
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 01:05 (four months ago) link
If it flies in Colorado I assume other states will be lining up to disqualify him.
― henry s, Wednesday, 20 December 2023 01:06 (four months ago) link
Doesn't this also remove him from the primary or no?
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 01:09 (four months ago) link
The appeal will probably outlast the primary contest, at least.
― henry s, Wednesday, 20 December 2023 01:11 (four months ago) link
it's bad news at any rate (i'm actually in a very good mood right now, for jobseeking reasons (i can't pay my rent and i may have just landed a decent job), so please don't take this as doomer shit. i am typing this in as good of a mood as you can be in while paying even a minimum amount of attention to what is happening in the world). it's bad news because one outcome is that the supreme court says it's fine that trump is now openly trying to be a dictator (or authoritarian/dictator/fascism/useful fool/whatever), which seems to be yet another milestone on in the collapse of democracy (or however long ago you think that's in the rearview now). the other outcome is that the supreme court does disallow trump from being on the primary ballot. i'll just note at this point that there's a new A24 movie called civil war which appears to try to be apolitical
― z_tbd, Wednesday, 20 December 2023 01:13 (four months ago) link
that 'civil war' movie from the little I've read sounds like sci-fi, which if that's the case I'm down for
― Dan S, Wednesday, 20 December 2023 01:16 (four months ago) link
This is pretty much it. I’d like to think the three justices selected by that fascist asshat would recuse themselves, leaving at least a 3-3 ruling (or perhaps 4-2 with Robert’s joining) upholding the Colorado Supreme Court’s ruling, thus sending other states to make similar rulings in accordance with the law, and finally putting this shit show away. It would be doing us all a solid and leaving a great start to the New Year. Whatever, we’ll see I guess.
― birdistheword, Wednesday, 20 December 2023 01:26 (four months ago) link
*Roberts
The Ghost of Christmas Future, IIRC.
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 01:33 (four months ago) link
Just based on how aligned the conservative justices are with the GOP, they will do whatever they think is necessary to preserve the GOP. It is the primary instrument of power for conservatism. Since Trump has recreated the party as his fiefdom, denying Trump ballot access would mean exploding the power base of the party. They will not be any more principled or any less craven than the Congress has been.
I agree with tipsy that the Senate's failure to convict will be their excuse. They can't really duck the responsibility of settling the primary constitutional question that's been raised. It's the whole reason the SCOTUS exists.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 01:44 (four months ago) link
^ And I hope like hell I'm wrong.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 01:47 (four months ago) link
I do think you’re wrong but we’ll see. I think that for better or worse the justices are lifetime appointees and realize that Trump will be dead soon and another nutiob republican will then seek power and the justices would rather align themselves with long-term movement than with the unseemly Trump. Alito and Thomas may not cooperate with this approach but I don’t think the others will further ruin their legacies on behalf of Trump. But we’ll see!
― tobo73, Wednesday, 20 December 2023 02:00 (four months ago) link
I think they will overturn the Colorado Supreme Court decision
and I don't think their legacies will be ruined because of it, they will just go on as before, and we will bow down to them when they die
― Dan S, Wednesday, 20 December 2023 02:22 (four months ago) link
I just don’t see how the SC could kick him off the ballot. He hasn’t been convicted of insurrection in the Senate or in a Court. I suppose they could make up a new power, but that would be pretty iffy.
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 02:35 (four months ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/CDToKFX.png
― z_tbd, Wednesday, 20 December 2023 02:45 (four months ago) link
we are FUCKED if people don't know this
god fucking dammit, section 3 of that. just skip to that
FUCK
― z_tbd, Wednesday, 20 December 2023 02:46 (four months ago) link
not to be sheeple, but sheeple, fuck, read the goddamn constitution so you can see them lie to you about it to your face
― z_tbd, Wednesday, 20 December 2023 02:47 (four months ago) link
Eye of beholder basically
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 02:49 (four months ago) link
oof yeah, that's going to be a moment, when they argue their way out of section 3, but yes. honestly my view is hold on tight, holy shit
― z_tbd, Wednesday, 20 December 2023 02:50 (four months ago) link
this whole case is basically a referendum on whether you believe in complete bullshit or not
― z_tbd, Wednesday, 20 December 2023 02:51 (four months ago) link
Not sure what you mean tho. No one has convicted Trump of insurrection. The SC would have to decide he was guilty.
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 02:54 (four months ago) link
It seems like it says the remedy to the situation is for congress to remove by ⅔ vote, which they already had the opportunity to do.
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 02:57 (four months ago) link
The flip of that, I wonder, is that these pending trials accusing him of insurrection, if the supreme court says he is not an insurrectionist, does that invalidate all these January 6 cases?
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 20 December 2023 02:57 (four months ago) link
Anyway, they should definitely impeach Trump.
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/colorado-supreme-court-disqualifies-trump-from-gop-ballot
So far, other courts to have addressed the question of Trump’s eligibility in light of the Disqualification Clause’s ban on former officials who engaged in insurrection have rejected efforts to bar him from seeking office on grounds of jurisdiction. The Colorado Supreme Court, in a case brought by good government nonprofit CREW, has now made a landmark, first-ever ruling in the country’s history: disqualifying a candidate from the presidency for having violated the 14th Amendment of the Constitution.The ruling ratifies the lower court finding that Trump engaged in insurrection on Jan. 6, under a measure used to keep Confederate officials away from power.
The ruling ratifies the lower court finding that Trump engaged in insurrection on Jan. 6, under a measure used to keep Confederate officials away from power.
― z_tbd, Wednesday, 20 December 2023 03:00 (four months ago) link
Yeah the fact that he hasn’t been convicted seems like it’ll be a sticking point
― frogbs, Wednesday, 20 December 2023 03:01 (four months ago) link
it doesn't say he has to have been convicted of it, simply that he took part in it. that seems incontrovertibly true to me but then I am not a brain damaged SC justice
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 03:02 (four months ago) link
if the supreme court says he is not an insurrectionist, does that invalidate all these January 6 cases?
i think there's a judicial process answer to this question, which many are likely to defend all the way up until it happens, and then there's the practical answer, which will likely be violent
― z_tbd, Wednesday, 20 December 2023 03:03 (four months ago) link
i am actually still in a good mood so i'm going to stop dwelling on this for now, sorry! but i will suggest the possibility of pretending like we just heard that our favorite guy joe biden is off the ballot in colorado, and it's because of some republican judge bullshit. biden is off the ballot and now republicans win colorado. that's why it would or will get violent.
in that situation we would think it was absurd that biden get kicked off a ballot while trump, demonstrably corrupt to the bone and a will to fascism, gets to run free. that's how conservative people, the kind that actually vote for them, think. the sliver of 'reasonable' conservatives is gone now. those that figured it out post 2016 and especially 2017 and especially any year after that can fuck off for the rest of their lives. so instead all that's left of conservatism is the dogmatic kind. all they see is trump is off the ballot in colorado, and it's because of some democratic judge bullshit. trump is off the ballot and now democrats win colorado. that's why it would or will get violent. what actually happened is becoming something like a curiosity
things are escalating and people are listening to other people who suggest that there
― z_tbd, Wednesday, 20 December 2023 03:15 (four months ago) link
...be hugs
ok be well but in general i think it's going to be a time of reckoning with real fascism, incoming, soon. i realize that's on the more negative side of thoughts about the future but it seems real to me, and (sorry, i know, i know) growing up in a pentecostal church, i have seen these fuckers and what they want, it's not good
― z_tbd, Wednesday, 20 December 2023 03:17 (four months ago) link
I think disqualifying one of the major candidates by decision of politically appointed judges is a great way to bring about that reckoning real fast. No matter how much it feels right, it is going to feel like cheating to many millions of people who staged a violent insurrection under far more clear cut circumstances.
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 03:36 (four months ago) link
But what if the disqualified candidate is a real asshole?
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 20 December 2023 03:43 (four months ago) link
right as much as he deserves to be booted off the ballot whatever happens next is not gonna be good for the country. personally I feel like "Trump should be disqualified as per the Constitution but he wasn't because he got to appoint 3 Supreme Cort judges so yes fascism is coming you idiots" might be something the Dems could run on
― frogbs, Wednesday, 20 December 2023 03:43 (four months ago) link
No, it’s gonna be fine, Trump is a moderate, I am assured.
― Expansion to Mackerel (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 03:48 (four months ago) link
I think SCOTUS is not going to want to rock the boat too hard. They'll do the minimum necessary to let the status quo prevail, which is to just keep Trump on the ballot. (I don't know what that legal contortion will look like, but they'll figure it out.)
NB: Maybe 5 of them will actually want him gone, that is an outside possibility.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 03:55 (four months ago) link
I think they'll say you can't remove him for insurrection when he hasn't been convicted by congress or in court.
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 03:56 (four months ago) link
No one has convicted Trump of insurrection. The SC would have to decide he was guilty.
The text doesn't say "shall be found to have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the state," it says "shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the state." And, you know, there's video. Call C-SPAN, they could burn you a copy, I bet.
― Tahuti Watches L&O:SVU Reruns Without His Ape (unperson), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 03:56 (four months ago) link
You realize this isn't self-evident to a massive portion of the country, right?
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 04:01 (four months ago) link
all they see is trump is off the ballot in colorado, and it's because of some democratic judge bullshit.
atm the SCOTUS has 6 justices appointed by republicans and 3 by democrats. this includes 3 justices appointed by Trump himself. so even a 5-4 split would necessarily include at least 2 republican nominees.
however, if there were a decision upholding the ballot invalidation in Colorado, one would hope for a 6-3 or 7-2 court in order to partially neutralize the backlash from Trump's cult.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 04:03 (four months ago) link
its too bad this won't happen in time for primaries because something like this might actually put the nomination in doubt if cards fall the right way and the RNC actually thinks this would severely damage his chances of winning. I know there are a lot of crazies in this country but I think the majority of Republican voters are not Jan 6ers but rather people scared of change who wish we could go back to the 1950s. once Trump is off TV for a few weeks they'll forget about him.
― frogbs, Wednesday, 20 December 2023 04:05 (four months ago) link
Yes, I am aware that most people are fucking morons, thanks.
― Tahuti Watches L&O:SVU Reruns Without His Ape (unperson), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 04:11 (four months ago) link
I think the safest thing (in a covering their own asses kind of way) the SC could do is refuse to take the case, allowing CO's ruling to stand but not necessarily establishing that other states have to follow. If they take it and affirm CO, it'll be Jan. 6 every day for millions of MAGAs even if the federal govt sort of limps along thereafter. If they overturn CO and force Trump onto the ballot, welp, there goes the country.
― that's when I reach for my copy of Revolver (WmC), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 04:15 (four months ago) link
like even look at J6 itself there were like 10,000 people there despite Trump getting like 80 million votes. yea some real loonies but not enough that there's more than a handful of now-famous faces in the crowd. a bunch of them were like, real-estate agents. probably like a hundred podcast hosts. they're people who broke a pretty serious law not because they are Nazis but because they are stupid and only capable of hearing the things they want to hear.
― frogbs, Wednesday, 20 December 2023 04:16 (four months ago) link
Though I suppose if they refuse to take the case, they're affirming the CO ruling. xp
― that's when I reach for my copy of Revolver (WmC), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 04:16 (four months ago) link
yeah it's like if it's taken, he stays on the ballot in CO pending decision.
so it doesn't sound like the "political question" dodge will work here well enough. i have to guess they'll do a "no conviction by court yet or by congress."
once Trump is off TV for a few weeks they'll forget about him.
ooooh my i want what you taking
― digital chirping and whirring (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 04:21 (four months ago) link
keeping him off tv would be fucking awesome tho
― digital chirping and whirring (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 04:22 (four months ago) link
If they take it and affirm CO, it'll be Jan. 6 every day for millions of MAGAs
see I'm not convinced of this. there are fascist rallies held fairly frequently in this country and nobody shows up but content creators and like 5 other people. sometimes there are more reporters than attendees. Trump himself spends his days calling into Z-rated podcasts and appearing on shows with names like Patriot Life Now! I mean there are 100% people willing to die for Trump but I feel like a significant portion of them are people who have already figured out a way to get on TV because every member of Trump Nation believes celebrity is the only thing that matters
― frogbs, Wednesday, 20 December 2023 04:26 (four months ago) link
I am aware that most people are fucking morons, thanks.
Most of us fit the profile. I recently read Drive Your Plow Over the Bones of the Dead, Olga Tokarczuk and one of the characters says (I'm paraphrasing), "Oh, you absolutely must tell people what they should think, otherwise someone else will." I agree.
People are very suggestible and when someone very confidently describes the 'right' way to look at something and no one immediately contradicts them, it's just easiest to adopt that viewpoint as correct and move on. Unless you have pre-existing countervailing thoughts.
The less you know about something, the easier it is to shape your views on it. It's also why news readers and talk show hosts strive to sound and act 'trustworthy' according to what their consultants say the correct signals are. This is an open secret that applies not just to FOX NEWS, but to all cable and broadcast news.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 04:30 (four months ago) link
when it comes to this stuff I think a lot about that study which showed that people become measurably less extreme after just two weeks of not watching FOX News. I know things look bad right now but I don't really believe that Donald Trump pushed the electorate past the point of no return
― frogbs, Wednesday, 20 December 2023 04:34 (four months ago) link
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Tuesday, December 19, 2023 11:01 PM bookmarkflaglink
are we just forever going to enslave ourselves to the will of ignorant, bloodthirsty authoritarian voters and the politicians they voted in? they're going to do terrible things if we sit and do nothing. they're going to do terrible things if provoked.
they're just going to do terrible things regardless but constantly framing things as "oh no we done poked the hornet's nest" just kinda lets them dictate the terms of how things go
― Formica Jordan (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 04:50 (four months ago) link
also - notice how shook a lot of these insurrectionists got AFTER January 6th, when many of them faced severe charges? remember all the talk on Telegram/other right wing social media about how armed "patriots" were going to ensure Biden never got to take office, and then a whole bunch of nothing happened?
these people felt comfortable thumping their chests on January 6th because they THOUGHT they were invincible. Imagine a convoy of idiot drivers all tearing down a road at 150 miles per hour, doing Tokyo Drift stunts because someone told them their cars had force fields around them, and then the first few rows of the fleet crashed and died in a fiery ball. the people that didn't die suddenly are going to drive like Sunday School teachers for the rest of their lives.
that doesn't mean this shit isn't scary or that we aren't going to see acts of violence/extremism from these folks, but y'know I'm not going to live in fear of how every little thing will inspire them to rise up and turn this country into the Turner Diaries Live on Ice. that's just giving them power.
― Formica Jordan (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 04:55 (four months ago) link
Why not let the actual criminal trial about this subject play out then?
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 04:57 (four months ago) link
conservative patriots are LARPers, the majority of whom like to act like badasses when there is no actual risk or repercussion, which is exactly why so many of these folk were little more than the drunk angry uncle who ranted on social media during the Obama administration
xpost the criminal trial that probably won't conclude prior to the election, so we can determine after he's possibly President again that he broke the law but oopsie we can't indict the President now so we will just have to say "lesson learned" for next time?
― Formica Jordan (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 04:59 (four months ago) link
Then perhaps the focus should be on actually beating him in the election instead of giving up and hoping the Supreme Court will save us.
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 05:01 (four months ago) link
their entire strategy is astroturfing. they talk about it openly on Twitter. like look at all the companies who got bullied by right-wingers after selling T-shirts that said "Gay Christmas" or whatever to the point where it actually affected their stock price. once they gave in it's not like their stock price went up. one of the biggest right wing celebrities is a guy who took a video of himself shooting up a case of Bud Light and then was photographed a few months later drinking it. 95% of this shit is pretend.
― frogbs, Wednesday, 20 December 2023 05:04 (four months ago) link
our strategy can be more than one thing. and it isn't as if Joe Biden is sitting here and puppeteering everything from his White House seat. there are a bunch of disconnected things happening around the country because Trump is a criminal so of course he's facing several different court cases/etc
― Formica Jordan (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 05:07 (four months ago) link
I was gonna waste my time taking this absurd argument apart, but Neanderthal already did.
― Tahuti Watches L&O:SVU Reruns Without His Ape (unperson), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 05:33 (four months ago) link
I was listening to that Trump–Raffensperger call. It's outrageously bad. When he is slandering Ruby Freeman he offers social media posts as evidence of her election fraud complicity. And someone suggests perhaps social media posting isn't evidence. And then he replies to clarify, no this wasn't social media, social media is big-tech, big tech isn't on our side - this was Trump media!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 09:12 (four months ago) link
― Muad'Doob (Moodles)
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 11:26 (four months ago) link
Should Biden win in November 2024 an army of former Clarence Thomas clerks will find some legal mechanism to deny him victory. You really think 2024 will be a normal election anyway? Come the fuck on.
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 11:28 (four months ago) link
Agree with Moodles that voting Trump out is better for the country. Getting him thrown off the ballot feels like abdicating responsibility.
I also hope he goes to jail the day after he loses the election for all the other crimes he has done.
― il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 13:01 (four months ago) link
There will already be people protesting the results of the 2024 election claiming Trump was kept off the ballot in every blue state, or whatever bullshit some guy in the front seat of his car on the internet put it in their heads.
Trump supporters are already so far gone that expecting them to follow the nuance of constitutional law is silly. They are Trump supporters because *they don't care* about the law. That care about force (of language, of action) in the face of the law.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 20 December 2023 13:07 (four months ago) link
It's not a matter of "better." Of course he's going to be on the ballot.
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 13:14 (four months ago) link
Then what is the point?
― il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 13:21 (four months ago) link
The point is to show that the law applies. The point is to show that liberal majorities whether in a court or in a legislature work. The point is to say fuck you.
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 13:24 (four months ago) link
It’s going to fun when Texas courts start kicking people who protested a war off the ballot for giving aid and comfort to the enemy
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 14:22 (four months ago) link
GOP legislatures and conservative courts have already been doing extralegal things to take away power from democratic officials, and in Tennessee, expelled two members of their legislature for merely protesting. they don't need provocation to do shit like this - they're already doing it
― Formica Jordan (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 14:43 (four months ago) link
Thank you
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 14:45 (four months ago) link
xpost and, once again, the law prohibits someone who engaged in insurrection from running, and it does not stipulate that he has to have been 'found guilty in a court of law'. the courts ruling that he engaged in insurrection *is* sufficient - or should be at least. I don't have, like, any faith that SCOTUS is actually going to back this ruling, but even if he IS found guilty, SCOTUS would be equally as likely to find some mechanism to say 'this doesn't actually apply' and undo the lower court's ruling.
moving goalposts is how conservatives work.
"well, ok, so he was found guilty, but it was by a biased court with a biased liberal judge! He voted for a Democrat once"
― Formica Jordan (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 14:48 (four months ago) link
Of course, a system of political parties taking turns throwing legal hail marys doesn't bode well, but this is the world we live in, and these are the hands we're given.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 20 December 2023 14:48 (four months ago) link
the courts ruling that he engaged in insurrection *is* sufficient - or should be at least.
Very much disagree with this.
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 14:50 (four months ago) link
I mean look the Republican house has already opened up an impeachment inquiry into Biden despite the fact that they have zero actual evidence of wrongdoing, and even say as much to the media when asked. they're gonna find whatever ways they can to kick Dems off the ballot regardless of how successful this is. the GOP recognized long ago that politics in this country is a form of Prisoner's Dilemma and if they're willing to cheat and do underhanded shit and the Dems aren't, then they're gonna wind up with all the power. I'm not sure how the Dems can really counteract that without screwing over everyone but I'm pretty sure appeasing the fascists ain't gonna do it, it never does
― frogbs, Wednesday, 20 December 2023 14:58 (four months ago) link
xpost why? this is one of the many untested parts of the Constitution. it's a Civil War provision that has fallen into relative obscurity and has zero precedent regarding the President. it makes zero mention of a criminal trial conviction being required, most likely because they didn't want a former Confederate to be able to hold office by either having crony sympathetic prosecutors refusing to bring criminal charges, or using a savvy legal team that can delay the trial long enough not to be disqualified.
this isn't as if the Colorado Supreme Court ignored decades or centuries of precedent and came up with a weird ruling - it's a hotly debated topic but while legal scholars are split on whether this applies to the Presidency, this isn't a case of them all saying "ok this is a reach".
the only way this shit gets settled is when a Court rules on it. otherwise it stays theoretical forever.
― Formica Jordan (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 15:02 (four months ago) link
lol "settled"
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 20 December 2023 15:04 (four months ago) link
I've been sort of skeptical of this lawsuit and I remain skeptical that SCOTUS will agree with the Colorado court. But that doesn't mean it shouldn't have been pursued, it's an important legal question. And as with all the Jan. 6 investigations and prosecutions up to and including Trump, I think that it also has some long-term impact in just trying to defend the integrity of elections and the peaceful transfer of power. The more any of this causes any future candidate or would-be insurrectionist to think for a second about whether they want to go to jail, the better!
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 15:04 (four months ago) link
Watching lib friends on social media wring their hands to a bloody pulp over this is more infuriating than usual. They're okay with punching back so long as we don't actually throw a punch.
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 15:05 (four months ago) link
Two days ago a young woman who graduated from my uni last week got arrested for 1/6 crimes. Almost three years later actions still have consequences.
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 15:06 (four months ago) link
I disagree with "settled," though. We're about to find out!
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 15:07 (four months ago) link
SCOTUS will vote to keep Trump on the ballot, and that will be the correct choice. No one has proven that Trump engaged in insurrection in a court, which is why it is a matter of opinion.
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 15:07 (four months ago) link
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/section-3-14th-amendment-us-constitution-trump-2024-ballot/
decent discussion here - even conservative legal scholars have written a legal brief supporting this interpretation of the Constitution.
that doesn't mean it's going to stick, it probably won't, but "don't return fire against the enemy that is bombing us, they might drop more bombs" is not a strategy I endorse.
― Formica Jordan (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 15:08 (four months ago) link
That's not my argument btw. I just disagree with this as constitutional law.
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 15:10 (four months ago) link
xpost the irony of handwringing about what a look this is for Democrats when the initial lawsuit itself was filed by CREW on behalf of six voters, they were all Republican or unaffiliated.
and....once again...nowhere in the provision does it state a requirement that a criminal trial has to occur. In this interpretation, it is a self-executing provision. a lawsuit was filed on behalf of these voters, the case has been heard by a District judge and the state's Supreme Court. they have seen the evidence and issued their own rulings based on this evidence.
― Formica Jordan (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 15:19 (four months ago) link
much like impeachment and the 25th amendment, our ancestors did a shit job of actually fleshing out the actual process, because at the time they felt it was self-evidence - you're a Confederate, you're out! which is why centuries later, we have such disagreements.
― Formica Jordan (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 15:21 (four months ago) link
*self-evident
― Formica Jordan (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 15:22 (four months ago) link
Now it's "You're a Confederate? You're in!"
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 15:24 (four months ago) link
No one has proven that Trump engaged in insurrection in a court, which is why it is a matter of opinion.
When my ten-year-old son tries to run for President, the state election board doesn't need him to be convicted by a court of being ten to disqualify him from appearing on the ballot. 14th Amendment says nowhere that a conviction for insurrection is required. You can like that or not like that for any number of reasons that appeal to conservatives and liberals variously, but that is what it says, it is the Constitution, and that is what the Colorado court used as the basis for their ruling here, including their determination that what Trump did on January 6th was insurrection.
The judiciary routinely draws up standards out of thin air for the application of laws. Many of them are famous! This is why you get a Miranda warning when being arrested, why free speech can be restricted if it provokes imminent lawless action, why art is obscene if taken as a whole, it lacks serious literary, artistic, political, or scientific value. The legislature didn't come up with those things. Here the Colorado court hasn't outlined a test for insurrectionary behavior, but they have by their ruling asserted that the court can determine according to their own standards what constitutes insurrection for the purposes of applying the Section 3 of the 14th Amendment. Their opinion, since they are judges, has the force of a ruling. Again, this happens all the time.
The Supreme Court will now weigh in. Who knows what they will do? Maybe say that a federal conviction for insurrection is the standard for 14th Amendment disqualification, which will then be the test that is applied in these cases. Maybe refuse to make that kind of ruling and say it is a matter for the states to decide, as they have often recently done for cases relating to elections. I doubt they'll mess with saying that Section 3 does not apply to the office of the President, the Colorado court dealt with that nonsense assertion very thoroughly.
― the absence of bikes (f. hazel), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 16:00 (four months ago) link
If the 14th amendment says all of this stuff, just imagine what's in the rest of the Constitution!
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 20 December 2023 16:06 (four months ago) link
we're not even allowed to go to the bathroom
― Formica Jordan (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 16:07 (four months ago) link
That's amendment #2, iirc.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 20 December 2023 16:09 (four months ago) link
The court requests NOT to hear what they will have to pry out of your cold, dead hands in the bathroom.
― the absence of bikes (f. hazel), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 16:10 (four months ago) link
It doesn't say a conviction is required but an actual conviction is what gets you past the "engaged in insurrection or rebellion" part being deemed debatable until then.
― Evan, Wednesday, 20 December 2023 16:11 (four months ago) link
I hear you can mint a trillion dollar coin
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 16:11 (four months ago) link
The Bulwark sums up the attitude I'm seeing in lots of places, including this thread, pretty well:
"Donald Trump must be allowed every possible legal maneuver in his quest to subvert American democracy. But the law must never apply to Trump, because doing so might make him stronger."
― Tahuti Watches L&O:SVU Reruns Without His Ape (unperson), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 16:13 (four months ago) link
My wanting to inflict maximum pain on Trump by having ~$81M voters tell him to go fuck himself before he is ruled ineligible to serve again and then thrown in jail for the rest of his life for one of any number of crimes he committed is not appeasing fascists or withholding fire or whatever other dumb things people are saying.
― il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 16:14 (four months ago) link
Both things can happen people.
― il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 16:15 (four months ago) link
The Bulwark sums up the attitude I'm seeing in lots of places, is run by war criminals
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 16:15 (four months ago) link
When my ten-year-old son tries to run for President, the state election board doesn't need him to be convicted by a court of being ten to disqualify him from appearing on the ballot.
I imagine there's some kind of certificate that notes that date of his birth.
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 16:17 (four months ago) link
But those probably aren't mentioned in the Constitution
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 16:18 (four months ago) link
xxxxxpost actually, it doesn't! one or more appellate courts could overturn his criminal trial conviction. or a state Supreme Court that skews conservative acknowledging his conviction but finding bullshit rationale to suggest this conviction doesn't rise to insurrection as defined in the 14th amendment?
none of this is cut and dried
― Formica Jordan (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 16:20 (four months ago) link
anyway, as I said earlier, this is largely moot in terms of "this is bad for Dems" because the voters who filed this lawsuit were largely Republican.
― Formica Jordan (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 16:21 (four months ago) link
It at least strengthens the argument!
― Evan, Wednesday, 20 December 2023 16:22 (four months ago) link
if Trump is disqualified from the Arizona primary and some other states follow suit, wouldn't that increase the odds of Nikki Haley taking up the running? She seems fairly wretched and I heard a MNCBC pundit (fwiw) saying some polling has suggested she'd do better against Biden than Trump would.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 16:23 (four months ago) link
I personally think the Colorado decision is both justified and hilarious, and I'm happy for it to be thrown to SCOTUS to make those fuckers squirm. Fuck you is right. And no there's no universe in which any of this is "better" for Trump. All of the bad things are bad for Trump! That they don't seem to hurt him with his lunatic base just makes them seem more loony. And yes I still want him to lose again in the actual election, but I'll also be perfectly happy for SCOTUS to yeet him from the ballot if they so choose.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 16:27 (four months ago) link
has this been proven in a court of law?
― impostor syndrome to the (expletive) max (stevie), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 16:28 (four months ago) link
Sadly, Bill Kristol could probably run for President
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 16:29 (four months ago) link
I can endorse that view, tipsy.
I just want to vote against this fucker one more time.
― il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 16:30 (four months ago) link
Don't blame me, I voted for f. hazel's 10-year old son.
― henry s, Wednesday, 20 December 2023 16:31 (four months ago) link
I heard a MNCBC pundit (fwiw) saying some polling has suggested she'd do better against Biden than Trump would.
nah. Trump is a brand and has a stanbase, that's the shit you don't wanna go up against; his base does not give a shit what he does or did, they're #teamtrump forever. normal politicians you can beat with a good ground game, he's bulletproof with a giant percentage of the american electorate. any other candidate is to be preferred both tactically and practically.
― J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 16:34 (four months ago) link
PBKR, it isn’t clear that Trump will be defeated by Biden. Not a single person I know outside of ILX plans on voting for Biden or Trump. Biden truly has lost many people on the left.
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 16:36 (four months ago) link
the "left"
― J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 16:36 (four months ago) link
all this drama and fight only makes the martyr more beloved
― | (Latham Green), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 16:36 (four months ago) link
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 16:23 (six minutes ago) link
I'm going pretty much totally on feels here, but I do kinda generally wonder if removing Trump from the ballot wouldn't ultimately help the GOP. Trump has a fervent base but, with the number of Republicans likely to abstain from voting and the number of people voting for Biden simply to keep Trump out of office, I'm not convinced that his base is enough to get him re-elected (by legitimate means). Whereas it seems like pretty much any other GOP presidential candidate would get overwhelming support from the party-at-large (maybe less so from the most frothy Trumpites) plus plenty of independent votes, and the turnout for Biden would likely be much lower without the looming threat of Trump Mk. 2.
― Great-Tasting Burger Perceptions (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 16:37 (four months ago) link
Colorado's primary (Super Tuesday) is March 5th, 2024. Trump's trial in DC for election interference activities begins March 4th. There is absolutely no way to have that case resolved by then.
to get to trial, the case required a lengthy House Committee hearing due to the sheer volume of witnesses to question and obstruction and obfuscation from Republican Congress, Trump and his lawyers. A special counsel investigation then had to follow that, before the Grand Jury decided to indict.
all this is to say that prosecuting a former President for crimes, which is unprecedented, is the type of thing that takes YEARS to even get to trial, not to mention the length of the trial itself. If you demand a guilty verdict in criminal court as a precursor for his expulsion from a primary ballot, then the President can basically participate in insurrection all he wants, because the clock will ALWAYS run out. What if he was to participate in an insurrection attempt one month before the actual election?
Not to mention, he's not on trial for 'insurrection' in these cases, he's charged with attempting to defraud American and its citizens through election interference and as such even with a conviction, his lawyers will try to argue that this does not rise to 'insurrection' as defined in the Constitution. they're already trying to argue this is a First Amendment matter (lol).
― Formica Jordan (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 16:38 (four months ago) link
I still want him to lose again in the actual election, but I'll also be perfectly happy for SCOTUS to yeet him from the ballot if they so choose.
dream big, like me: he could die before the election.
― impostor syndrome to the (expletive) max (stevie), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 16:38 (four months ago) link
Not sure what that’s supposed to mean, JCLC. Maybe you love watching Palestinian children get pulled from rubble as much as Joe Biden does, but most people I know will not vote for Genocide Joe
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 16:39 (four months ago) link
xxpost Another way to say this is that Trump is not even being prosecuted for "insurrection" because it's not obvious and not easy to prove.
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 16:40 (four months ago) link
Wow, tables, maybe stop with the completely needless and gross ad hominem bullshit.
― Great-Tasting Burger Perceptions (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 16:42 (four months ago) link
Trump actually IS being prosecuted for insurrection, that's the election interference case.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 16:42 (four months ago) link
Anyway I'm glad the CO court made this decision because it will force the SC to come up with a standard for something that hasn't really come up since the Reconstruction era.
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 16:43 (four months ago) link
xpost Not really.
The fact that people are running away from Biden in droves is part of what makes me so uneasy about this. It feels like liberals are celebrating some deus ex machina silver bullet because they're so demoralized and don't believe they can win for real. JiC's term "legal Hail Mary" was very much on point.
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 16:43 (four months ago) link
https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/d415a40c908c11417ac607a95c3a4c840967a508/206_0_3783_2270/master/3783.jpg
― impostor syndrome to the (expletive) max (stevie), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 16:44 (four months ago) link
If Trump's off the ballot then Biden might not even run
― the absence of bikes (f. hazel), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 16:45 (four months ago) link
There was something noticeably absent when the special counsel, Jack Smith, unsealed an indictment this week charging former President Donald J. Trump with multiple conspiracies to overturn the 2020 election: any count that directly accused Mr. Trump of being responsible for the violence his supporters committed at the Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021.
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 16:46 (four months ago) link
Sure, but that's still what the whole case is built around — his attempts to overturn the election. You can call it whatever you want, but if he's convicted on those counts it would definitely bolster the "insurrection" legal argument.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 16:47 (four months ago) link
Insurrection is defined by violence
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 16:49 (four months ago) link
I personally think the Colorado decision is both justified and hilarious, and I'm happy for it to be thrown to SCOTUS to make those fuckers squirm.
they're going to overturn it and they're not going to squirm while doing so. this is a waste of time.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 16:57 (four months ago) link
Sweet!
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 16:57 (four months ago) link
The fact that people are running away from Biden in droves is part of what makes me so uneasy about this. It feels like liberals are celebrating some deus ex machina silver bullet because they're so demoralized and don't believe they can win for real.
I think liberals will vote for Biden; the people table references, I have the same friends, they're not gonna vote for any Democrat who they can't imagine as a member of DSA. they were lost already, they're just madder now because Biden is fucking up the Palestine situation so bad -- but they were already disseminating plenty of right-wing propaganda on Biden, helping the right win elections has been one of the putative American left's projects for decades. my point, table, is that those people aren't leftists, they're accelerationists.
― J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 17:00 (four months ago) link
I dunno I'm not a lawyer, but if you're looking for preponderance of evidence of insurrectionary activity I think that case is pretty strong! Four Colorado justices think he's guilty of insurrection even without that, I think a conviction in that case would add more weight to it.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 17:00 (four months ago) link
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 17:01 (four months ago) link
Or we are people who actually dare to want something better than the current rot. Your “clear-eyed” view is just nihilism, afaic.
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 17:03 (four months ago) link
I want something better every time I vote in a primary.
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 17:09 (four months ago) link
Again viewing this as a Dem Hail Mary is inaccurate as this was a REPUBLICAN VOTER initiated lawsuit. Dems may be happy about it but have nothing to do with it.
Biden's polling numbers are certainly going to improve, much like Ralph Nader in 2000, who posted poll numbers in double digits before winding up at something like 2.5%, third party independent voters with significant backing often overperform in polls before the primaries because the election is an afterthought and people are more likely to reach for the stars or troll with third parties. So his share is probably greatly overstated in any polls.
Turnout is also important and that's harder to predict. It definitely isn't a slam dunk Biden will win, but taking polls this far out as a foregone conclusion is silly.
If economy keeps improving and inflation keeps slowing, that will win voters back. But yes I'd rather have Trump drop dead so we don't have to find out.
― Formica Jordan (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 17:13 (four months ago) link
Xposts
I wish I had someone better to vote for in a primary. Or that Biden would die or not run again, but I'm afraid the party mandarins would decree Harris the new nominee, then all is lost.
― Expansion to Mackerel (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 17:15 (four months ago) link
Maybe I'll write in my primary ballot "the Ghost of FDR" or Gretchen Whitmer.
― Expansion to Mackerel (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 17:16 (four months ago) link
xxpost I think the lawsuit was to get Trump off the Republican primary ballot in CO, so the Dems wouldn't have had standing anyway
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 17:18 (four months ago) link
Saw a breakdown that for what it is worth, all seven of those justices at the Colorado Supreme Court were apparently appointed by Democrats, so even among the seven there was not a unanimous consensus. We are so beyond the realm of right and wrong, we are at best teetering on the brink of what is remotely achievable. Like, hypothetical law, because the black and white of it has barely held for the last few years. That's why it's a hail Mary. It can say explicitly in the Constitution that people named Trump are forbidden from running and it would still be a hail Mary these days, imo.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 20 December 2023 17:21 (four months ago) link
xpost it also included unaffiliated voters, who also aren't allowed to vote in the primary, though
― Formica Jordan (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 17:25 (four months ago) link
Haley does poll better against Biden than Trump does, but I'd bet that's in large part because she's a lesser-known quantity whom voters don't have a strong opinion about. Right now, she polls well against Biden simply because she's neither Biden nor Trump. For a challenger to an incumbent, that may well be enough to win, but it's also way too early to tell since she's never been at the center of a national campaign.
― jaymc, Wednesday, 20 December 2023 17:25 (four months ago) link
xpost I mean, 6 members of the highest court in the land were appointed by Republicans and any questions of their legitimacy get responses of "cry more", soooooooooooo
― Formica Jordan (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 17:26 (four months ago) link
I'm voting in the primary only to signal the presence of liberals in Tennessee. I'd be happy to sit it out otherwise, but I want our lack of proportional representation on the record. So that's what my vote is for. Biden is just the name next to the bubble. Voting and not voting can mean lots of different things, and we can define them for ourselves.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 17:27 (four months ago) link
As I understand it, the U.S. is pretty much the only country where parties even allow voters to choose their general-election nominees. Anywhere else, Dean Phillips wouldn't even be on the ballot!
― jaymc, Wednesday, 20 December 2023 17:42 (four months ago) link
lol thinking that in addition to the "Trump's gonna win" containment thread we're going to need one for "Leftists who refuse to vote for Biden/don't try to change our minds" thread. Or we're gonna have this argument nonstop for 10 months.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 18:47 (four months ago) link
That would be the "Leftists howling into the void because the world refuses their gift of sanity" thread.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 18:51 (four months ago) link
you misspelled "grift"
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 18:53 (four months ago) link
not from their leftcentric pov
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 18:54 (four months ago) link
See this is why we need a containment thread.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 18:55 (four months ago) link
I apologize to JCLC for the association with a genocidaire, it was unfair.
appreciate but no offense was taken, we do get heated on the politics thread, it's a tradition
― J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 18:56 (four months ago) link
yes, I want that, too, but I'm not the nihilist here; a movement whose single greatest accomplishment is not getting appointed officials who'll achieve their stated ends does not actually want what it says it wants. no window is being moved by online lefties going gonzo on biden, which they were doing looooong before his latest disgrace, it's just reflexive mainstream Democrat hating. (I hate them too! But I'm not a revolutionary because I can really sock it to 'em online.) if your efforts defeat your stated goals, then those are not your actual goals.
― J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 19:01 (four months ago) link
Yep, hence my remark an hour ago about primaries. That was our chance to register our disgust with the status quo. Biden won with clear majorities, and here we are. ymmv but I don't vote for exciting candidates: I vote for candidates whose goals more or less align with mine and who have a record of accomplishment. Biden's funding of Bibi's war machine is in the same tradition as Obama's targeting of American citizens with drone rockets and FDR's internment camps; I voted for the first two anyway because #Florida.
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 19:07 (four months ago) link
look I have no reason to doubt these people table is referring to but I feel like we've already had this exact same conversation many times before. in 2020 when it became clear that Biden was gonna be the nominee there were a lot of progressives on Twitter saying the Dems were absolutely gonna lose 2020 now. it was all the same talk too, "nobody I know is going to vote Biden", "they'll need to do better than that if they want to earn my vote", "I voted Hillary but I'm sitting this one out", etc. etc. and yet somehow Biden still got 81 million votes. because I think at the end of the day its a lot easier to find the motivation to vote when fascism is staring you in the face. especially when it comes in the form of one of the most obnoxious, unlikeable people this country has ever produced. I mean I totally get the leftist opposition vs. Biden right now, but the people who are hitting him hard for what's happening with Israel are generally smart enough to realize that bringing in a dude who is almost certainly gonna float the idea of just nuking Gaza is not gonna make things any better.
― frogbs, Wednesday, 20 December 2023 19:08 (four months ago) link
and it's December 2023. The general public -- even Dem voters -- ain't paying attention.
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 19:11 (four months ago) link
Particularly since there's barely a primary season this time around.
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 19:13 (four months ago) link
people who actually dare to want something better
ah yes those rare people who want a better life. you can't even swing a cat by the tail without hitting one. (apologies to ilx's resident 'cat')
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 19:15 (four months ago) link
scrolling up to the top of this thread w/Trump's childhood photo up there is like watching the end of Come and See
― omar little, Wednesday, 20 December 2023 19:21 (four months ago) link
As I understand it, the U.S. is pretty much the only country where parties even allow voters to choose their general-election nominees. Anywhere else, Dean Phillips wouldn't even be on the ballot!― jaymc, Wednesday, December 20, 2023 12:42 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
― jaymc, Wednesday, December 20, 2023 12:42 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
dean phillips can be on the ballot under the system used in most other countries. he just can't claim to represent a particular party unless he wins an internal process in that party. having a state-run election to decide who will be on the ballot in the next state-run election is not an essential attribute of democracy.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 19:29 (four months ago) link
Biden won with clear majorities
I think in large part because people perceived he was probably the only candidate who could beat Trump.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 19:30 (four months ago) link
Especially in states with party registration and closed primaries. Strong case to be made that those shouldn't even be publicly funded, they should be paid for by the parties.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 19:31 (four months ago) link
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, December 20, 2023 1:11 PM (ten minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
its always important to remember that the people who post on the ilxor.com politics thread, along with most of those who are (or were) active on political Twitter, actually make up like the 99th percentile of sickos who actually follow this stuff. you see op-eds now about how the country/media isn't taking this seriously but I think they will once election season comes. people might have forgot this now but 2020 had so much coverage dedicated to Trump's wishy-washy statements about whether or not he would accept a Biden victory and all the things he was actively doing to make it harder to vote, particularly by mail. the plan to encourage in-person voting so it would look like a Trump victory on election day but would shift Biden's way over the next day or two, thereby generating the illusion of foul play was uh...not exactly a covert strategy. it was talked about constantly.
so I suspect for the 2024 election, this is gonna be the story, as much as emails were for Hillary in 2016. reporters are gonna be clamping at the bit to nail him, and every elected Republican, down on this subject. this is the shit they dream about. I don't think he's gonna get tossed from the ballot but if indeed the SC overturns it, is a ruling finding that he's legally ineligible to run according to the Constitution getting reversed by Trump's hand-picked justices really gonna be a good thing for him? especially when said candidate is currently under fire for directly quoting shit from Mein Kampf?
― frogbs, Wednesday, 20 December 2023 19:37 (four months ago) link
This is the truest thing said here today imo
― stephen miller is not your friend (Eric H.), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 19:44 (four months ago) link
Voting for Jesus btw
― Formica Jordan (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 19:47 (four months ago) link
One of these cycles, I legit hope he's on the ballot
― stephen miller is not your friend (Eric H.), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 19:54 (four months ago) link
Jesus has often run for downballot offices.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 19:56 (four months ago) link
Tax collector
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 19:59 (four months ago) link
Jesus works a no-show job
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 20:20 (four months ago) link
Been waiting about 2,000 years or so for him to show up.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 20:33 (four months ago) link
Any day now.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 20:34 (four months ago) link
My new ILX handle is plainly labeled
― Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 20:34 (four months ago) link
we probably do need a containment thread, but fwiw, i vote in local elections and do on-the-ground organizing, a point I have stated numerous times across numerous threads. Everything I have learned from my 20+ years of doing this kind of work and voting with the ethical imperatives that I do has informed my decisions— I haven’t voted for a major party president since Kerry, and I doubt I ever will again.
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 21:06 (four months ago) link
You have to realize though that the fact that you live in a swing state (that Trump won in 2016) and did not vote to stop him twice makes your complaints about him feel a bit hollow
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 21:22 (four months ago) link
I mean everyone's free to do whatever they want but I think JCLC made a pretty good point here:
if your efforts defeat your stated goals, then those are not your actual goals
in the last two elections I know people who said they either wouldn't vote or would vote 3rd party because Trump winning would be a "wake up call" for the Dems to stop running shitty centrists. that's not exactly what we got after Hillary lost and imo kind of a hard argument to make when the other candidate is calling the opposition vermin and is openly talking about the poisoning of the blood of the nation. I very much understand the frustration and anguish and disappointment in the people who claim to be "on our side" but, as my stepdad always told me, "it's better than a stick in the eye"
― frogbs, Wednesday, 20 December 2023 21:36 (four months ago) link
Pretty sure I remember Tabes saying that he didn’t live in PA in ‘16
― Expansion to Mackerel (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 21:36 (four months ago) link
xp My dad said the same thing, only he called it a sharp stick.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 21:37 (four months ago) link
I think I said this upthread, but I first voted in 1984. Since then, I have thought that I was voting for a candidate, rather than against another candidate, in 1992 and 2008. That's about it. Well, I'll throw in 2012. Obama was a seriously flawed president, but if he could have run for a third term I'd have voted for him again, regardless of whom he was running against.
All that is to say, I'm very glad I voted against the assholes I voted against, and will do so again next year.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 21:39 (four months ago) link
Obama was a seriously flawed president, but if he could have run for a third term ...
https://uproxx.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/get-out-whitford-1.jpg
― stephen miller is not your friend (Eric H.), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 21:47 (four months ago) link
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 20 December 2023 22:27 (four months ago) link
I actually forgot that was a line lol
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 22:29 (four months ago) link
Keyes, I lived in California from 2008-2017.
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 22:49 (four months ago) link
I'll vote for Biden again without holding my nose... yes, his response to the Gaza situation is awful, but I wonder if any prior president would have done anything different (Carter exempted)
When I vote for Biden, I'm voting for his administration more than the individual... and so far, that administration has been pretty effective in passing some legislation that's not completely horrible. The grim possibility of a Trump second term means that we need to circle the wagons and pretend that Biden is the greatest leader that ever lived, assuming he's actually in the general
― Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 20 December 2023 23:45 (four months ago) link
xpost ok, but in 2020 PA was still a swing state that had gone for Trump 4 years earlier. A lot of people would value casting a vote against Trump in that situation. Sometimes people participate in vote swaps (i.e. someone in CA agrees to vote for the Green Party candidate or whoever in exchange for a swing state voter to vote for the Dem.)
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Thursday, 21 December 2023 00:00 (three months ago) link
is PA a swing state? Serious question. Before 2016 the last time it had gone red was with Poppy Bush in '88.
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 21 December 2023 00:04 (three months ago) link
Biden beat Trump in 2020 there by 1.15%
You may also remember the lovely senators Rick Santorum and Pat Toomey.
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Thursday, 21 December 2023 00:10 (three months ago) link
Philly on one side, Pittsburgh on the other with Alabama in the middle, etc.
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Thursday, 21 December 2023 00:12 (three months ago) link
Lawrence Lessig wrote an op-ed explaining why Colorado’s decision should be overturned which is pretty depressing. Basically the conclusion is he can only be defeated electorally but at the point I have absolutely no faith in collective wisdom that will make that happen.
― birdistheword, Thursday, 21 December 2023 00:18 (three months ago) link
The compelling reason why the insurrectionist clause was added to the 14th amendment was that the process of reabsorbing the CSA states back into the USA meant that there was soon to be significant number of voters capable of voting for their insurrectionist leaders, both for Congress and President. It was explicitly denying voters their ability to vote for candidates who may have easily won election, had they been allowed to serve. It's sole purpose was anti-democratic in fact and in spirit, as a means of preserving the Union from the baleful politics of half the nation. That clear purpose should invalidate any argument that denying Trump continued access to the office of president is anti-democratic and disenfranchises his voters. The insurrectionist clause is deliberately anti-democratic and designed to disenfranchise voters from electing insurrectionists.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 21 December 2023 00:39 (three months ago) link
trump will be fine if he just writes a nice letter to andrew johnson
― difficult listening hour, Thursday, 21 December 2023 01:09 (three months ago) link
Individual votes don't matter, no one's consumer choice is swaying the future of mankind. In the event that Pennsylvania's vote hinges on one person and the EC hinges on Pennsylvania, you can yell at tables/Kevin Costner.
Scolding as a general GOTV strategy doesn't seem to be particularly effective, though, if 2016 is anything to go by.
― papal hotwife (milo z), Thursday, 21 December 2023 01:29 (three months ago) link
Cool, if individual votes don’t matter than none of us should ever vote and we should just sit home and cross our fingers that things move marginally in a better direction by sheer force of will.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 21 December 2023 02:02 (three months ago) link
Scolding may not be effective but it is fun.
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Thursday, 21 December 2023 02:27 (three months ago) link
The argument being thrown out here isn’t even that you should vote for Democrats to make a better world - just that you’re obligated to do so in order to slow the descent into a worse world.
Sitting at home and concentrating real hard on change for the better is as effective as your individual vote for Democrats in national elections so sure, do whatever makes you feel good.
If casting that ballot means you did your part to fight fascism, sweet. If not casting a ballot means you didn’t lower yourself to support ethnic cleansing, fantastic. The outcome is the same either way.
― papal hotwife (milo z), Thursday, 21 December 2023 02:39 (three months ago) link
You could almost say it’s RIGGED.
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Thursday, 21 December 2023 03:04 (three months ago) link
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2023/12/21/luttig-14th-amendment-trump-00132792
― Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 21 December 2023 11:29 (three months ago) link
It's great to know that the Colorado ruling is legally airtight, and it's also great to know that the Supreme Court is comprised of sober and serious-minded justices who will unquestionably affirm a legally-airtight ruling. I don't see a flaw in this plan! Trump is toast, everybody!
― Great-Tasting Burger Perceptions (Old Lunch), Thursday, 21 December 2023 12:24 (three months ago) link
We got him! 🤣
― Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 21 December 2023 12:27 (three months ago) link
I have always had reverence for the institution of the Supreme Court of the United States, and I have that same reverence for the institution and the current court that I have had my entire life.
Oh wait, I think I see a problem.
― Large, Complex, Detailed but Irrefutable POST (Dan Peterson), Thursday, 21 December 2023 15:18 (three months ago) link
How severely do you have to be Ludovico Treatment-ed before you just automatically barf out something like that?
― Great-Tasting Burger Perceptions (Old Lunch), Thursday, 21 December 2023 15:21 (three months ago) link
It would seem to me that the Constitution is “bad politics” of late, 2A aside
― stephen miller is not your friend (Eric H.), Thursday, 21 December 2023 15:49 (three months ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3huT9iemFTg
― the absence of bikes (f. hazel), Thursday, 21 December 2023 16:03 (three months ago) link
i'm so god damn fucking sick of wasting any time whatsoever thinking about this motherfucker! all time dude
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 21 December 2023 16:13 (three months ago) link
I hear you
― Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 21 December 2023 16:14 (three months ago) link
Death Was His Art, Dying Himself Would Be His Masterpiece
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 21 December 2023 17:13 (three months ago) link
Maybe it's just semantics, but I find the pundits saying, "let the people decide" a bit disingenuous--considering that losing the popular vote was no impediment to Trump taking office, the argument is more accurately, "let the electoral college decide." I think there's been compelling arguments over the last few years that letting the EC decide isn't that much fairer.
― blatherskite, Thursday, 21 December 2023 17:29 (three months ago) link
this seems like a situation where Dems should probably take care not to let the GOP control the narrative like they always do, since "the voters should decide, not the courts" misses the point, which is that it's The Constitution that bars him from running - you know, that sacred document they all claim they love so much.
― frogbs, Thursday, 21 December 2023 17:52 (three months ago) link
"let the people decide" is just a populist dog-whistle, nothing more
― Ghidorah, the three-headed Explorah (Neanderthal), Thursday, 21 December 2023 18:05 (three months ago) link
the 'people' don't get to decide most things in the US, but playing to the idea of a country established for and run by the people is the same kinda bullshit Juan Peron used to get 'elected'
― Ghidorah, the three-headed Explorah (Neanderthal), Thursday, 21 December 2023 18:07 (three months ago) link
Don't cry for me Orange County
― CthulhuLululemon (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 21 December 2023 18:12 (three months ago) link
the luttig argument is interesting, but since trump hasn't (yet) been convicted of something adjacent to "insurrection," i don't think the supreme court will uphold the colorado ruling.
― treeship., Thursday, 21 December 2023 18:16 (three months ago) link
xxpost like when Mitch McConnell used that famous canard re: SCOTUS it was the same thing. providing the illusion of 'control' which is like red meat to low-info voters who think the government is guilty of 'overreach'.
voters get to vote for people on the ballot in the primary, and in the election, they don't get to decide the rules for who is eligible to run, or what the Constitution actually means.
even if (and when) the attempt to remove him from the ballot fails, the alternative was...not trying that at all, which basically is a huge batman signal to the Republican party that "all of the things we do will no longer meet with resistance, they've finally given up".
― Ghidorah, the three-headed Explorah (Neanderthal), Thursday, 21 December 2023 18:17 (three months ago) link
SCOTUS has already gone rogue. if and when they overturn the ruling, it will be purely because the 6 Republican justices prefer he be in office and nothing more than that.
they will give it legal rationale, either saying that provision of the 14th amendment doesn't apply to Presidents, or some other excuse, but the whole "not convicted" thing doesn't matter. even if he was convicted tomorrow, SCOTUS would probably overturn the Colorado Supreme Court's ruling. focusing on the criminal trial misses the point. if SCOTUS is going to overturn the decision, it's going to do so no matter what happens because they've already shown they just rule the way they feel like it.
there is no requirement to achieve a conviction first and I doubt the drafters of the 14th Amendment ever intended it to be a requirement. as said upthread, it was to keep Confederates from reigniting their cause by infiltrating the government. I sincerely doubt they would have required anything other than "He fought for the South" as evidence. this amendment has already been used for lower offices to keep people who participated in January 6th from running, some of whom were not yet convicted either. even with Trump committing these crimes literally in his last two weeks in office, he won't start his trial until the next Presidential primary is already underway. the amendment provision is fundamentally toothless if it requires a criminal conviction first for this reason
― Ghidorah, the three-headed Explorah (Neanderthal), Thursday, 21 December 2023 18:27 (three months ago) link
I think the only legitimate question here is whether the President is an "officer of the United States" within the meaning of the Fourteenth Amendment.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 21 December 2023 18:28 (three months ago) link
― Expansion to Mackerel (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 21 December 2023 18:30 (three months ago) link
― assert (matttkkkk), Thursday, 21 December 2023 18:32 (three months ago) link
in fact, Couy Griffin, who was removed from his county commission post in New Mexico using the Insurrection Clause, was only found guilty of trespassing, and acquitted of disorderly conduct. and yet he was already removed and barred from running again, and nobody appealed it beyond New Mexico's Supreme Court because they don't give a fuck about a lowly county commissioner.
xpost yeah that seems to be the main legal challenge dividing experts.
― Ghidorah, the three-headed Explorah (Neanderthal), Thursday, 21 December 2023 18:35 (three months ago) link
hence why social media and a couple posters here implying that This Doesn't Matter annoys me.
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 21 December 2023 18:52 (three months ago) link
I think the only legitimate question here is whether the President is an "officer of the United States"
I haven’t seen the argument, but how is he not?
― Large, Complex, Detailed but Irrefutable POST (Dan Peterson), Thursday, 21 December 2023 18:58 (three months ago) link
The phrase is not defined in the text.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 21 December 2023 18:58 (three months ago) link
I just wish the Democratic party was capable of more bravely swarming when there's blood in the water rather than questioning if the blood means the wounded fish is actually getting stronger
― omar little, Thursday, 21 December 2023 18:59 (three months ago) link
He can't go under with three barrels on him.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 21 December 2023 19:01 (three months ago) link
More weight
― Ghidorah, the three-headed Explorah (Neanderthal), Thursday, 21 December 2023 19:01 (three months ago) link
hence why social media and a couple posters here implying that This Doesn't Matter annoys me.heavily otm
― z_tbd, Thursday, 21 December 2023 19:03 (three months ago) link
this amendment has already been used for lower offices to keep people who participated in January 6th from running, some of whom were not yet convicted either.
Has it been used for people who were not physically present at the Capitol?
The insurrection language was put in the Constitution after an actual war. Trump's role is the insurrection has been clearly defined and Jack Smith is not even bothering to try to convict him of insurrection because it's difficult to prove. It may be self evident to us, but not to a hundred million people or so.
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Thursday, 21 December 2023 19:11 (three months ago) link
has not been clearly defined
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Thursday, 21 December 2023 19:12 (three months ago) link
Like, yeah, you didn't need a trial to decided if someone was a Confederate because there were records identifying them
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Thursday, 21 December 2023 19:13 (three months ago) link
Also, establishment Republican types would love to have Trump yanked out of the election. They wouldn't have to deal with him anymore and they could still bitch about it.
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Thursday, 21 December 2023 19:14 (three months ago) link
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Thursday, December 21, 2023 2:13 PM bookmarkflaglink
that's goalpost moving. You require a criminal conviction for Trump for the invocation of the Insurrection Clause to be valid, yet it's fine for Confederates to be barred simply for being Confederates....because being a Confederate is inherently insurrection? Ok, but not in the eyes of the law as it pertains to that person. Even when you commit a crime out in the open that's witnessed by thousands of people, criminally speaking you are innocent until proven guilty (or until you plead guilty). Not to mention, similar to McCarthyism, civilians could easily have been misidentified as aiding the Confederacy.
In fact, J.D. Watkins, a District Attorney, was disqualified from office for the nebulous reason of "engaged in the rebellion", but no specific details as to what he actually did ever emerged. Most noteworthy is during that case, the Louisiana Supreme Court established in their ruling that Section 3 of Amendment 14 ("Insurrection Clause") is not a criminal punishment, merely a requirement for office, and thus state courts can enforce it.
A.F. Gregory, a Postmaster, was removed from his post by the Postmaster General, and no actual rationale was given, just that it fell under the Insurrection Clause.
John H. Christy was removed from his post for offering aid and encouragement to Confederates, but it was never established what he specifically did.
None of these three were ever charged or convicted with a crime. All of their removals stuck and only one court (Louisiana Supreme Court) even reviewed the case and upheld the removal.
No criminal conviction is required because this is a prerequisite for office and not a criminal punishment - so just like "being a member of or aiding the Confederacy" was enough to disqualify 6 individuals in the 19th century, a state court ruling Trump's actions amount to insurrection is sufficient as well. In the history of its usage, the expectation always seems to be that either by action (refusing to seat a candidate that won an election) or filing of a lawsuit, someone seeks to remove a candidate from office on Insurrection grounds, and that state courts are eligible to rule on the merits.
None of the legal experts I've read in the last three days who have brought up the significant legal challenges with this ruling have mentioned the lack of a criminal conviction. almost all of them have pointed to whether this clause applies to the Presidency or not.
― Ghidorah, the three-headed Explorah (Neanderthal), Thursday, 21 December 2023 19:41 (three months ago) link
yet it's fine for Confederates to be barred simply for being Confederates....because being a Confederate is inherently insurrection?
There was a literal war against the United States. These are two quite different things.
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Thursday, 21 December 2023 19:54 (three months ago) link
God every time I listen to a Dead C record it's like I can't listen to anything else for several days
― J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Thursday, 21 December 2023 19:58 (three months ago) link
xp I'm not paying the slightest attention to a poster who thinks that "COVID is over", you've lost what little legitimacy you had left on this board, just go away
― out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Thursday, 21 December 2023 20:00 (three months ago) link
I'll say it more simply here - in 1869, the precedent was set by the Louisiana Supreme Court that the Insurrection Clause can be enforced via civil lawsuits at the state court level, because it is not a criminal matter. It's a civil lawsuit. If I'm sued in civil court for assault, I don't beat the charges by merely yelling "well I was never arrested or convicted so they have no case" - I mean, I can try that, but it's not a winning strategy. Civil court has a much lower burden of proof required. and state Supreme Courts can adjudicate civil matters like these.
SCOTUS will of course reverse this but it will have nothing to do with anything based in legal rationale and everything to do with "lol fuck u libs" and we know this because people like Alito, Kavanaugh, and Thomas outright say things that amount to that, on the record.
― Ghidorah, the three-headed Explorah (Neanderthal), Thursday, 21 December 2023 20:16 (three months ago) link
I still think the easiest thing is for them to default back to the trial court's judgment that the section doesn't apply to the president. That way they're not imposing their view, they're upholding a lower court ruling and revering the state supreme court. Sure it leaves open the possibility of an insurrectionist getting elected president, but on balance that's not likely to happen very often — just next year, is all.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 21 December 2023 20:20 (three months ago) link
I just wish his decades of terrible eating and no exercise would finally catch up with him, but of fucking course not.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 21 December 2023 20:28 (three months ago) link
If you are required to take an oath of office to "protect preserve and defend the Consitution of the United States" then you are an officer of the US government. It was phrased that way to ensure that all the former US Army officers who fought for the confederacy would be included, along with all the former US congressmen or Cabinet officers in the CSA government. It probably swept in a lot of postmasters, too.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 21 December 2023 20:28 (three months ago) link
That still doesn't answer the question whether it applies to POTUS.
I'd say the chances the Supreme Court says it does are slim to none, and slim left town.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 21 December 2023 20:30 (three months ago) link
hold on, Thaddeus Stevens is booked on Rachel Maddow's show tonight.
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 21 December 2023 20:34 (three months ago) link
btw I haven't watched him in ages but Chris Hayes tried answering these questions last night:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTlPd0yuH1c
The 1869 Louisiana precedent was likely not challenged because the court was using the clause as it was intended, against people who had participated in a war against America. It is being challenged 150 years later because it's being used in a case about whether a sitting President incited a mob, or didn't do enough to calm the mob down.
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Thursday, 21 December 2023 20:35 (three months ago) link
He stood up on a podium in front of "the largest crowd ever for an Inauguration" and took the Oath of Office. Only the most tortured rationalizing could somehow deny that simple fact. So, it's right up Alito's alley.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 21 December 2023 20:39 (three months ago) link
I just heard some Harvard professor on the radio, and he said that the Constitution uses that term 25 times in describing duties of the President
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 21 December 2023 20:46 (three months ago) link
Aimless undoubtedly otm.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 21 December 2023 20:47 (three months ago) link
I mean, he didn't just incite a mob: he attempted a coup.
I feel like I'm on a merry-go-round here.
The only requirement for disqualification, once again, is having "participated in insurrection or rebellion against the United States". Not "having fought or participated in a civil war", not "having been convicted in criminal court of these offenses". It has already been used successfully to oust a city commissioner within the last two years, for a level of participation far below what Trump did (this was for someone who merely showed up to it).
You're also getting stuck on "well the Civil War was a war against America, so of course we don't need a trial, those soldiers wore uniforms" - yeah, no shit, but humoring you for a moment that a criminal conviction is required to disqualify Trump (which it is not), the same would hold true for being a part of the Confederacy. You can't have it both ways. The relative 'obviousness' of whether someone was a Confederate soldier or not doesn't matter - if you believe a conviction in court is required, then these Confederate sympathizers would similarly need to convicted first. Just like how in criminal court you don't forfeit the right to a trial because 1,000 people saw you do it and someone recorded you doing it. There's not a rotating set of standards based on context, here. You either believe a conviction is required or you don't believe it, and what I'm saying is only 1 of the 6 people disqualified in the 19th century was charged and convicted of anything. 3 of them, it's unclear what their role with the Confederacy even was.
Because, as I've already said, it's not as cut and dried as you keep implying. You have soldiers and army officers in the Confederacy, sure, but three of the people I listed who were removed in the 19th century as per this Amendment were not soldiers or officers of the Confederacy, and what they were accused of doing to aid the Confederacy was vague - it could have been as simple as, like, going to a meeting where Confederates were gathered, or writing something that seemed supportive of them. or donating money.
These extra caveats you keep insisting are requirements are your own artistic license.
― Ghidorah, the three-headed Explorah (Neanderthal), Thursday, 21 December 2023 20:55 (three months ago) link
xxxxposts
like let's not pretend there's going to be any legal pretext for the dismissal. Clarence Thomas and Alito are, to differing degrees, Originalists, and if they were going to rule in good faith, would not take the context of the amendment Section 3 being a byproduct of Civil War times, and don't view the Constitution as a living breathing thing.
except when the Originalist reading would warrant them ruling in a way they personally don't like.
― Ghidorah, the three-headed Explorah (Neanderthal), Thursday, 21 December 2023 20:59 (three months ago) link
Lucky for Trump every sitting justice on the SCOTUS was a lawyer. When it comes right down to it, they aren't even bound by precedent. All they have to do is get 5 votes and write some kind of fine sounding gobbledygook to back it up. The 5 votes don't even have to sign on to the same gobbledygook. That's why we love them so much.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 21 December 2023 21:03 (three months ago) link
Thomas and Alito are lickspittle trash so they'll probably overturn, but I really can't see Gorsuch or Kennedy doing it. Kavanaugh and Barrett I can't predict. But again, neither of them have had Trump's back judicially speaking so far.
― the absence of bikes (f. hazel), Thursday, 21 December 2023 21:19 (three months ago) link
It's splitting hairs because I'm not arguing anything except my understanding of what is technically true in this regard BUT: "The only requirement for disqualification, once again, is having 'participated in insurrection or rebellion against the United States'. [...] not 'having been convicted in criminal court of these offenses'." What's the difference? His "participation" is not formally fact UNTIL a conviction, no? He has to be found guilty before things can be set in motion contingent on his guilt.
DISCLAIMER I have no larger point at all I am just really fixated on this one single thing... all I'll say is that unless I'm way off here I can see them dismissing on that basis.
― Evan, Thursday, 21 December 2023 21:20 (three months ago) link
Ok, this is my artistic view: the Civil War and Jan. 6 are extremely different events-- the first was an actual war against the United States and the second is mob violence. Trump's level of culpability is in dispute, and it does not strike me as clear that the people who put the clause in the Constitution would have considered a sitting President giving a speech that made people storm the Capitol would count as an insurrection or a rebellion. So you are probably correct that the CO court had the authority to decide these matters against Trump, but to me the decision would be more convincing if some entity other than the CO court had decided Trump's guilt in the matter. If it's enough for you, that's cool, but I would rather see a clearer process put in place.
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Thursday, 21 December 2023 21:21 (three months ago) link
He did far more to overthrow the government than just give a speech.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 21 December 2023 21:45 (three months ago) link
John Schneider Calls For Joe Biden to Be Executed
https://www.newsweek.com/john-schneider-joe-biden-executed-1854401
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 21 December 2023 21:49 (three months ago) link
yea idk how much of those 1/6 hearings you listened to but there was def a lot more to it than that
― frogbs, Thursday, 21 December 2023 21:51 (three months ago) link
I know but insurrection is defined by violence.
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Thursday, 21 December 2023 21:53 (three months ago) link
Leaning on people to do illegal stuff is illegal, which is why Trump should be in jail.
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Thursday, 21 December 2023 21:54 (three months ago) link
just to be clear does anyone here actually believe Trump shouldn't be removed from the ballot because of this or is it just Devil's advocate because Trump always gets the benefit the doubt?
― frogbs, Thursday, 21 December 2023 21:58 (three months ago) link
He shouldn't be removed from the ballot until he's convicted.
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Thursday, 21 December 2023 22:03 (three months ago) link
xp I think that, in this case (unlike so much of the litigation he brings or causes), there is at least a colorable legal argument here that he should not be removed.
That said, he shouldn't be on the ballot anywhere. He should be cast into the outer darkness, where there is much wailing and gnashing of teeth.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 21 December 2023 22:04 (three months ago) link
https://i0.wp.com/www.kindertrauma.com/images/movies/blackhole1.jpg
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 21 December 2023 22:10 (three months ago) link
Evan, the framers did not include a conviction requirement because they probably considered "insurrection" self-evident. after all, the Civil War was the impetus for its creation. They didn't anticipate 100+ years later that there would be a political party that would openly try to steal elections and deny water is wet.
But how the provision has worked in the past when invoked is that interested parties have used Insurrection as a precondition for removing someone from their elected position or denying them the ability to run again. and the person accused has either quietly accepted the decision, or challenged it in court. that's how civil court generally works in legal disputes - if one party believes they've been wronged by another who they feel are doing so due to a misapplication of law, they sue, and the courts clear it up.
when a law is unclearly written, as this one is, courts typically intervene and their rulings are used as precedents for later rulings.
This is actually how this law has typically been applied. An elected official has been told they were removed from their position and could not run again due to being involved in insurrection or rebellion. They either quietly accept the decision, or, as is most cases, sue in court to try and reverse the decision (and usually lose).
Two separate individuals were removed from their elected positions in North Carolina in 1869 and sued to get their jobs (and ability to run in the future) back, and lost - one was Kenneth Worthy (a county sheriff), the other William Tate (a state solicitor). Worthy merely held public office in a state that was part of the Confederacy in the Civil War, whereas Tate was an actual officer of the Confederate army. Both sued, and it eventually got to the North Carolina Supreme Court who determined their dismissals were valid.
Zebulon Vance, on the other hand, was appointed to the US Senate in 1872, but Congress refused to seat him due to his being a Confederate officer and serving as Governor in a confederate state, citing 14th amendment. He did not challenge the ruling in court, instead petitioning Congress to seat him, and after two years, he gave up.
The only person prior to 2021 to actually be convicted prior to dismissal under the 14th amendment was Victor Berger, a Socialist who was elected to the House of Representatives in 2019 and Congress refused to seat him because he was arrested and later convicted under the Espionage Act for merely being a Socialist and writing in opposition to World War 1. This conviction was overturned by SCOTUS in 2021, and Congress no longer refused to seat him after that occurred. This was an example of a time the clause was horribly misused.
― Ghidorah, the three-headed Explorah (Neanderthal), Thursday, 21 December 2023 22:10 (three months ago) link
What should have happened was a Senate conviction on the second impeachment that included a bar on his ever holding federal office again. But, the temporary backbone some GOP Senators found in the aftermath of the riot had long evaporated by the time the vote came around.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 21 December 2023 22:12 (three months ago) link
I'm going to guess that conviction was in 1919?
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Thursday, 21 December 2023 22:14 (three months ago) link
Hmm maybe the Confederate flag on the car named General Lee should have been a tip-off here.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 21 December 2023 22:15 (three months ago) link
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Thursday, December 21, 2023 4:53 PM bookmarkflaglink
from the US criminal code, here is the actual law regarding insurrection or rebellion.
Whoever incites, sets on foot, assists, or engages in any rebellion or insurrection against the authority of the United States or the laws thereof, or gives aid or comfort thereto, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.
The actor themselves need not be the violent one, only need to incite those that are or assist them. He demanded the removal of metal detectors because he knew many of his supporters are armed. he gave a speech and encouraged them to march. pretty damn cut and dry.
― Ghidorah, the three-headed Explorah (Neanderthal), Thursday, 21 December 2023 22:16 (three months ago) link
The speech was also part of a longer-range plan to disrupt the electoral count and to overturn the election.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 21 December 2023 22:20 (three months ago) link
just to be clear does anyone here actually believe Trump shouldn't be removed from the ballot because of this
I don't think anyone should be barred from running/removed from ballots for any reason. I don't see that as an effective measure to stop anything/anyone bad - if a plurality or majority of an electorate wish to elect John Wayne Gacy, preventing them from voting for John Wayne Gacy isn't going to resolve the underlying issue - and runs parallel to my objection to stripping felons of the vote, etc..
― papal hotwife (milo z), Thursday, 21 December 2023 22:21 (three months ago) link
I see what you're going for here, but actors are meat puppets; they do what they're told.
― Tahuti Watches L&O:SVU Reruns Without His Ape (unperson), Thursday, 21 December 2023 22:22 (three months ago) link
He also had a lamentable career as a country singer.
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 21 December 2023 22:23 (three months ago) link
preventing them from voting for John Wayne Gacy isn't going to resolve the underlying issue
No, but it will prevent John Wayne Gacy from actually holding elected office.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 21 December 2023 22:23 (three months ago) link
also going to go out on a limb and assume the Founding Fathers didn't require conviction simply to prevent situations like these. in Civil War times, non-repentant Confederates still had a degree of popularity and were finding themselves easily elected to office, where you couldn't assume the stink of Confederacy would be sufficient to keep them out of office, much like we sadly can't assume a President who tried to commit a coup will be unpopular enough to lose an election.
he and his lawyers have been deliberately trying to slow-walk the trial so that the election ends before it's concluded and therefore avoid being prosecuted on behalf of being a sitting President. his lawyers have done this with several of his cases, judge shopping so they could get Judge Cannon. so idk maybe focus on that rather than concern trolling about a weird, incongruous reading of an obscure passage in the 14th Amendment.
― Ghidorah, the three-headed Explorah (Neanderthal), Thursday, 21 December 2023 22:24 (three months ago) link
it's not even a 'two wrongs make a right' scenario because one individual has violated the law many, many times, and the other side is actually interpreting the appropriate 14th amendment passage consistent with how it's been historically used, it's just never been used for this high an office.
― Ghidorah, the three-headed Explorah (Neanderthal), Thursday, 21 December 2023 22:27 (three months ago) link
Is there a Godwin's law for evoking John Wayne Gacy in an argument
― Great-Tasting Burger Perceptions (Old Lunch), Thursday, 21 December 2023 22:42 (three months ago) link
Self-clowning oven
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 21 December 2023 22:42 (three months ago) link
slow clap
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Thursday, 21 December 2023 23:32 (three months ago) link
our god is a mighty god!!!!!!!!!!
don't know why that popped into mind but yeah, god is deffo way dead
― z_tbd, Thursday, 21 December 2023 23:35 (three months ago) link
god is dead as a doornail
― z_tbd, Thursday, 21 December 2023 23:36 (three months ago) link
God's away on business.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 21 December 2023 23:38 (three months ago) link
god is ooo, but if we're real dead as a doorknob
― z_tbd, Thursday, 21 December 2023 23:40 (three months ago) link
just completely dead at this point
― z_tbd, Thursday, 21 December 2023 23:41 (three months ago) link
seems more likely we were badly misinformed about what to expect from god
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 21 December 2023 23:46 (three months ago) link
One must imagine a god of very low expectations beginning to roll a boulder up a mountain
― z_tbd, Thursday, 21 December 2023 23:53 (three months ago) link
new newshttps://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/2023/12/21/donald-trump-recorded-pressuring-wayne-canvassers-not-to-certify-2020-vote-michigan/72004514007/
― out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Friday, 22 December 2023 00:13 (three months ago) link
guys stop Peggy Noonan settled it
https://i.imgur.com/jdlSI8B.png
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 22 December 2023 00:14 (three months ago) link
Yeah mostly just thinking about the brazen Confederate iconography of my childhood and how probably we should have taken it more at face value.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Friday, 22 December 2023 00:20 (three months ago) link
His case seems pretty airtight. Treason is mentioned in the Constitution you know.
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Friday, 22 December 2023 00:26 (three months ago) link
It's the treason for the season
― papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 22 December 2023 00:28 (three months ago) link
how is Peggy Noonan only 73?
― jaymc, Friday, 22 December 2023 00:28 (three months ago) link
Gerald Ford, dead today
― Ghidorah, the three-headed Explorah (Neanderthal), Friday, 22 December 2023 00:28 (three months ago) link
There is a God, and he hates us
― Expansion to Mackerel (Boring, Maryland), Friday, 22 December 2023 00:50 (three months ago) link
it's a very bad saved game, saved for badness
― z_tbd, Friday, 22 December 2023 01:01 (three months ago) link
I’m calling BS on a narrative that’s become widespread: The idea that liberals hope the 14th amendment is the “magical cure-all” that finishes Trump once and for all.This NYT piece leads with this claim. 1/https://t.co/YaytnXJNOK pic.twitter.com/06n4ebzgPH— Greg Sargent (@ThePlumLineGS) December 21, 2023
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 22 December 2023 01:08 (three months ago) link
isn't allowing the people to vote for the end of democracy actually THE REAL DEMOCRACY? be real sheeple.
― digital chirping and whirring (Hunt3r), Friday, 22 December 2023 01:10 (three months ago) link
Sneer about “the Resistance” all you want, but
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Friday, 22 December 2023 01:20 (three months ago) link
what would it be like if we all got to call BS
― z_tbd, Friday, 22 December 2023 01:35 (three months ago) link
Institutions are supposed to deliver what they were designed for. In the case of our laws and legal institutions their declared intent is to deliver impartial justice arrived at through democratic legislative institutions and impartial courts. Obviously the NYT thinks that calling on the institutions of governance to perform their various obligations is the same as "searching for magic bullets". I guess the NYT is pushing the idea that our government, our laws and our institutions can't or won't do their job and it is foolish of anyone to think they will. Great editorial position there, NYT!
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 22 December 2023 01:36 (three months ago) link
FWIW... from Politico:
‘The Opposite of Politics’: A Conservative Legal Scholar Says Kicking Trump Off the Ballot Is ‘Unassailable’
J. Michael Luttig explains why he thinks the 14th Amendment should prevent Trump from running for president again.
You’ve said you’re confident that the Supreme Court will uphold the Colorado ruling. What’s the source of your confidence?
Luttig: I’m always exceedingly careful with my word choice in public on profound matters of great importance. What I have said is that I am confident that the Supreme Court would affirm Colorado Supreme Court’s decision based upon the objective law, which in this instance is Section 3 of the 14th amendment. Which is to say that I know that the Colorado Supreme Court decision is unassailable in every single respect under the Constitution of the United States.
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 22 December 2023 01:42 (three months ago) link
exceedingly careful
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 22 December 2023 01:46 (three months ago) link
the Colorado Supreme Court decision is unassailable in every single respect under the Constitution of the United States.
The First Rule of SCOTUS Club is that the US Constitution says what you say it says. What a Colorado court says it says is just their opinion.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 22 December 2023 01:52 (three months ago) link
i mean it's not unassailable according to 3/7 judges on the colorado supreme court
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 22 December 2023 02:44 (three months ago) link
I don't think felons should be barred from running for office but like if the crime was trying to overthrow the government that seems like one you ought to make an exception for. like if a doctor committed a felony by deliberately overprescribing his friends I'd say that dude probably shouldn't be able to work in the pharmacy either. but he could still become a Senator or be like Dr. Oz or something
― frogbs, Friday, 22 December 2023 04:12 (three months ago) link
That Detroit News story, which I came here to post, seems bad for Trump?
― impostor syndrome to the (expletive) max (stevie), Friday, 22 December 2023 10:46 (three months ago) link
Yeah, that seems more straightforwardly illegal than his role in j6 shenanigans...
― m0stly clean (Slowsquatch), Friday, 22 December 2023 11:40 (three months ago) link
They'll get right on it. Pencil the first hearing for 2029.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 22 December 2023 13:19 (three months ago) link
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/27/us/colorado-supreme-court-trump.htmlhttp://media.aclj.org/pdf/Colorado-Republican-State-Central-Committee-v.-Anderson-Cert-Petition-PDFA_Redacted.pdf
the CO GOP is first to ask the supreme court to appeal the disqualification of trump from the ballot. in their petition they frame the case like this:
Whether the President falls within the list of officials subject to the disqualification provision of Section Three of the Fourteenth AmendmentWhether Section Three of the Fourteenth Amendment is self-executing to the extent of allowing states to remove candidates from the ballot in the bsence of any Congressional action authorizing such processWhether the denial to a political party of its ability to choose the candidate of its choice in a presidential primary and general election violates that party’s First Amendment Right of Association
Whether Section Three of the Fourteenth Amendment is self-executing to the extent of allowing states to remove candidates from the ballot in the bsence of any Congressional action authorizing such process
Whether the denial to a political party of its ability to choose the candidate of its choice in a presidential primary and general election violates that party’s First Amendment Right of Association
― z_tbd, Thursday, 28 December 2023 17:27 (three months ago) link
i think they’d have a better case just begging roberts for trump’s constitutional right to a mulligan rly but it will work somehow maybe
― digital chirping and whirring (Hunt3r), Thursday, 28 December 2023 18:39 (three months ago) link
the first two are much stronger arguments than the third. the third is laughable
― Disco Biollante (Neanderthal), Thursday, 28 December 2023 18:39 (three months ago) link
"not being able to nominate a 12 year old middle schooler violates our First Amendment Rights""not being able to nominate a dead clown violates our First Amendment Rights""not being able to nominate someone who was born and lived in France and moved here 2 months ago violates our First Amendment rights"
― Disco Biollante (Neanderthal), Thursday, 28 December 2023 18:48 (three months ago) link
I’m actually mad I can’t vote for someone born and raised in France and only moved here 2 months ago
― stephen miller is not your friend (Eric H.), Thursday, 28 December 2023 18:53 (three months ago) link
"But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability."I find this pretty persuasive as to the intent as to self execution. i mean if ever an exception proved a rule ffs there it is
― digital chirping and whirring (Hunt3r), Thursday, 28 December 2023 19:00 (three months ago) link
I find the argument that the President is actually not "an officer of the United States" to be even more ridiculous than the 1st Amendment one. they probably do have a point that Congress ought to be involved, though I would argue that half of Congress is explicitly pro-insurrection, so we shouldn't give a fuck what they think either. but we all know the ball always bounces Trump's way so whatever, nothing's gonna happen
― frogbs, Thursday, 28 December 2023 19:13 (three months ago) link
I mean, Trump hasn't exactly avoided consequences in the years since he's left office. when he doesn't have the means of controlling the arms that are investigating him, he doesn't do so well.
in this particular case, it's not a nothingburger what happened either, but SCOTUS just doesn't have to do much to undo it, just refer it back to the lower court ruling.
it almost would help Republicans more to just let it ride, throw up their hands, oh, we would have nominated Trump, but corrupt justices made it impossible, so we're reluctantly nominating this other person, but don't worry, they will bring back Trump's agenda! and fundraise off of it.
I mean...they wouldn't win doing this either, but I feel like Trump's polling numbers are probably peaking right now and he's due for a major backslide next year and after he gets the nomination, especially after the latest economic data that just dropped.
― Disco Biollante (Neanderthal), Thursday, 28 December 2023 19:17 (three months ago) link
polling largely stopped for the year a week and a half ago so we'll have to see what the next set shows.
― Disco Biollante (Neanderthal), Thursday, 28 December 2023 19:20 (three months ago) link
the general pattern with Trump seems to be that his approval numbers are not awful during periods where he's mostly out of the news, once he wins the nomination there will probably be a lot more attention paid to him openly promising to be a dictator and saying shit like "may all liberals ROT in HELL!!". feel like once again we're gonna test if people's hatred of Trump is gonna win out vs. their indifference/dislike of Biden, idk seems like it'll probably work, especially because there is a pretty convincing argument to be made that America is essentially over if he wins again
― frogbs, Thursday, 28 December 2023 19:32 (three months ago) link
This coming year will be unbearable
― Expansion to Mackerel (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 28 December 2023 19:44 (three months ago) link
oh it's going to be completely garbage and i'm not looking forward to it since this year was pretty much the worst of my life. but hey maybe we pull off another miracle
― Disco Biollante (Neanderthal), Thursday, 28 December 2023 19:46 (three months ago) link
And, lo, gigantic TRUMP flags will emerge upon many a Dodge Ram pickup and yacht flotilla and fill the land with tumult and the owning of libs by invincible stupidity.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 28 December 2023 19:50 (three months ago) link
2024 is gonna suck no doubt but I’ve also come to realize that a big part of what made 2016-2020 so unbearable was just being on Twitter all the time. So I’m almost thankful to Elon for killing it. The reality is federal government shit doesn’t matter a whole lot in my life, not as much as local issues like who wins school board, obviously this is because I’m in a privileged group and I’m very sorry to those who are not but I think it’s important that everyone finds a way to stay sane through all this. My advice is to cut as many of the freaks out of your life as you can. I was so miserable trying to reason with certain people in my family who really did believe everyone smarter than them in any subject was full of shit, once you recognize it as the no-win situation it actually is it’s a lot easier to navigate.
― frogbs, Thursday, 28 December 2023 20:17 (three months ago) link
Of course I may be delusional but I’m not completely freaked out because I really don’t think Trump has what it takes to actually overthrow the entire government. He’s gonna hurt a lot of people out of incompetence but I really do think this country’s come too far to turn into a fascist hellhole overnight
― frogbs, Thursday, 28 December 2023 20:20 (three months ago) link
― more difficult than I look (Aimless),
Where I live "will" has nothing to do with it.
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 28 December 2023 20:21 (three months ago) link
the government has already been overthrown, nobody is actually running things anymore
― Disco Biollante (Neanderthal), Thursday, 28 December 2023 20:21 (three months ago) link
What do you mean, I’m right here. But my messages keep getting ignored.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 28 December 2023 20:23 (three months ago) link
kind of ignores the last 43 years dunnit?
― that's when I reach for my copy of Revolver (WmC), Thursday, 28 December 2023 20:27 (three months ago) link
Reporting from blood-red rural Montana, I am not seeing any Trump gear or bumper stickers or anything anywhere. Nor do I ever hear anyone talking politics in a loud, "I dare you to shut me up" voice, which is almost always a sign of a Trumpoid. When people talk politics around here they're complaining about local stuff — most people, including Republicans, really, really hate the governor, because he's done shit like raise their property taxes a lot and express the desire to put public lands up for sale. I would not be at all surprised if Montana has a Democratic governor a year from now — the D candidate is a former gun company executive whose position on social issues mostly boils down to "mind your own goddamn business." Which is a very winning message in the West.
― Tahuti Watches L&O:SVU Reruns Without His Ape (unperson), Thursday, 28 December 2023 20:32 (three months ago) link
Yeah Gianforte is a true grade A asshole - would love to see him out on his ear.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 28 December 2023 20:37 (three months ago) link
I have noticed that all the MAGA bumper stickers/hats/lawn signs which stayed up since 2021 have now come down, surely a lot will come back once the election season really starts up but I also wonder if the hundred felonies and open embrace of fascist language is gonna affect how these fuckers present themselves in public. Especially as virtually every Republican I know has lost friends and family ties over it. I still maintain the idea that 90% of Republican voters really don’t like Trump, but the other 10% are 10x as loud. They’ll still vote him though, in part because every other candidate is so pathetic, in part because they probably think he’s the only guy who can win
― frogbs, Thursday, 28 December 2023 20:40 (three months ago) link
the last time I spotted a Trump flag on a pickup truck was a couple months ago and it ended up actually being a Taylor Swift flag
― c u (crüt), Thursday, 28 December 2023 21:06 (three months ago) link
Trump,
we are never ever ever getting back together
Love,
America
― Disco Biollante (Neanderthal), Thursday, 28 December 2023 21:25 (three months ago) link
"Stop calling me."
― nickn, Thursday, 28 December 2023 22:06 (three months ago) link
the thing is authoritarians generally come into power when domestic conditions are legitimately bad, and no matter how much rightwing media spins it as such things are simply not that bad right now. unemployment is low, gas prices are low, the stock market is high, and inflation has stalled. yes there are a lot of people struggling but it's not like the levels we saw in 2008 or 2020. and even if "I alone can fix the economy" is a winning message, that's not the message Trump is sending out right now. there's really nothing in Trump's "platform" that's claiming it's gonna make anyone's life better, he's skipped directly to revenge and fascism and "rooting out the vermin". this isn't like 2016 where moderates still saw him as a harmless bozo, or even like 2020 where a lot of voters still thought he was all talk when it came to his inevitable attempts to steal the election. despite Biden's historic unpopularity and inability to excite anyone (not to mention how bad he's fucking up the Gaza situation) I still don't see how Trump is gonna do better this time around if he's gonna run as even more psycho and unpleasant than he was four years ago. yes I know the polls are worrying right now but I also know the way nearly every election since 2016 has gone. obviously a lot can change between now and then and anything can happen when the incumbant is as unpopular as Biden is but idk I'm not calling this a lock for Trump the way a lot of my friends are.
― frogbs, Thursday, 28 December 2023 22:28 (three months ago) link
The first, last and best service Trump could do for humanity is to die.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 28 December 2023 22:30 (three months ago) link
Assassinations never happen anymore it’s awful.
― Expansion to Mackerel (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 28 December 2023 22:36 (three months ago) link
I don't want anyone to go to jail for killing him. His heart must be the size of a canned ham, surely it will just blow up one of these days.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 28 December 2023 22:39 (three months ago) link
His parents lived to 88 and 93, their hearts fuelled like his by hostility and terror
― 1980 Jackanory spinoff (Matt #2), Thursday, 28 December 2023 22:44 (three months ago) link
The preservative power of bitterness and venom.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 28 December 2023 22:55 (three months ago) link
Reporting from blood-red rural Montana, I am not seeing any Trump gear or bumper stickers or anything anywhere. Nor do I ever hear anyone talking politics in a loud, "I dare you to shut me up" voice
I am also fond of Montana and think it's generally thought of in a 2D way by people who haven't been here, but this is what the 2020 Montana presidential map looked like.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1e/Montana_Presidential_Election_Results_2020.svg/2560px-Montana_Presidential_Election_Results_2020.svg.png
― J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Thursday, 28 December 2023 23:01 (three months ago) link
Unperson denied none of that, though.
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 28 December 2023 23:25 (three months ago) link
Tbf most state maps look kinda like that
― frogbs, Thursday, 28 December 2023 23:46 (three months ago) link
You are quite otm and have been repeating a variation of your post to typically terrified Dems.
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 28 December 2023 23:49 (three months ago) link
Been thinking about the dynamics of Biden v Trump and the novelty of an election where the winner definitely only has one term. I think Trump catastrophists — of which I can be one, in the right mood — underestimate the fading gravitational pull of lame-duck-hood. If Biden wins obviously he’s immediately yesterday’s news, he’s practically a lame duck right now. Trump less so because all the hoopla of changing administrations and all the batshit stuff he’ll do or try right off the bat. But especially if Congress is divided he won’t get MUCH done, apart from naming judges. And in any case the 2028 election basically starts immediately. I feel like Trump exhaustion sets in quickly whether he wins or loses.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Friday, 29 December 2023 00:20 (three months ago) link
yeah this is true tbh
― J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Friday, 29 December 2023 00:26 (three months ago) link
Many Trump catastrophists I know think elections will cease to exist come January '25.
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 29 December 2023 00:27 (three months ago) link
Sorry if this has already been shared https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2023/12/28/politics/trump-maine-14th-amendment-ballot/index.html
― Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 29 December 2023 00:33 (three months ago) link
xxxp see that's what 2020 came down to as well - imo the strongest force was "if Biden wins, it means you don't have to care about what Donald Trump does or says anymore". obviously that turned out to not be true since the GOP has absolutely nothing to offer anyone, but I think it really is true this time. if he loses he's really fucked legally. given how sick everyone's gonna be of him by the end of the year I think that's gonna paper over a lot of Biden's flaws.
― frogbs, Friday, 29 December 2023 00:39 (three months ago) link
I'm less worried about than I was a few years ago. Not that I'm unworried about it. But I feel like our dystopia is taking a different turn than playing Third Reich dress-up. More like a reversion to many former American means, or an attempted one state by state. That includes the subversion of democracy for sure, but I don't think it's like Trump gets in and just wipes out the Constitution. He's less powerful on day two than on day one and so forth. And lots of Republicans really are sick of him.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Friday, 29 December 2023 01:46 (three months ago) link
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/imageserver/image/%2Fmethode%2Ftimes%2Fprod%2Fweb%2Fbin%2Fca85f4da-db4e-11e6-a7b1-3a60b507a068.jpg?crop=2046%2C1364%2C164%2C173
It is kind of no wonder really.
― earlnash, Friday, 29 December 2023 01:48 (three months ago) link
Adam Kinzinger describes Donald Trump’s odor situation as “not good” and says he smells like arm pits, ketchup, makeup, and ass pic.twitter.com/LvqQ5As9Ez— Acyn (@Acyn) December 28, 2023
― Disco Biollante (Neanderthal), Friday, 29 December 2023 02:16 (three months ago) link
Purchase a case of Lume. Tailor-made for all the smelly areas, as the commercials say ad nauseum.
― the body of a spider... (scampering alpaca), Friday, 29 December 2023 02:28 (three months ago) link
we needed confirmation
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 29 December 2023 02:30 (three months ago) link
Arm pits, Ketchup, Makeup & Ass = Best New Order live boot
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 29 December 2023 03:32 (three months ago) link
Armpits, ketchup, ass, makeupAll must be preservedStill life displayed foreverNo less than he deserved
― Disco Biollante (Neanderthal), Friday, 29 December 2023 15:03 (three months ago) link
Armpit ketchup, ass make-up
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 29 December 2023 15:15 (three months ago) link
Armpit, Ketchup, Makeup, Dozy, Beaky, Mick & Tich, and Ass
― Large, Complex, Detailed but Irrefutable POST (Dan Peterson), Friday, 29 December 2023 15:55 (three months ago) link
^^ second-tier '70s prog rock act
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 29 December 2023 16:03 (three months ago) link
to add to his list of crimes he's now getting accused of not engaging with disinfection
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 29 December 2023 16:14 (three months ago) link
It’s hard to keep up with all the legal shit
https://www.newsweek.com/all-states-trying-kick-trump-off-ballot-where-cases-stand-1856331
― Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 29 December 2023 16:51 (three months ago) link
i think reasonable people will disagree (sorry..."reasonable people"...i hate how this phrase sounds - i guess another way to put it is "i don't think there's an obviously correct answer to this but i expect that other people think there's an obviously correct answer"), but i would prefer that trump is on the ballot.
i just typed out a partial explanation of why, but i don't think it will survive. i have a lot of contradictory thoughts about the whole thing. maybe this will resonate with someone, maybe not, but i think part of why i argue myself into circles with this is that i think political, election-related violence/revenge - worse than jan 6, and across the country - seems like such a likely possibility if trump loses. whether he's on the ballot or not. the whole thing gets snowballed, for me, into a larger issue of how to combat political violence on a large scale.
if violence weren't an issue, it would be easy. kick his ass off the ballot. the constitution clearly says to kick him off - it is a sign of our collective wandering dysphoria that this is even a question. and even with the acceptance of violence, i think "reasonable people" could very persuasively argue that fascism must be confronted head on, with force if necessary. our elections should not be influenced by fear of violent fascists. i believe that, of course. but again, there is the violence itself, and how likely it is, and the most marginalized people will be the first targets. it seems all too easy (and wrong) to say "bring it on". (but then again - it is wrong to make decisions based on trying not to make violent angry people even madder and more wrong than they usually are!)
again, i think the vast majority of the 22 people reading this don't think that violence on a wide scale is likely, and things are much more simple if it's not a factor. god i hope it's not. and i apologize to people who think that i'm a downer by bringing it up. i'm usually not.
― z_tbd, Friday, 29 December 2023 17:24 (three months ago) link
i think political, election-related violence/revenge - worse than jan 6, and across the country - seems like such a likely possibility if trump loses
You are wrong to think this, and here's why:
- Trump is not as popular as he once was. Not by a long shot. And he was never popular. His approval rating never broke the 50% mark the entire time he was in office. Not once. Not for a day, not for an hour.
- Many of his most violent supporters are already under arrest. The others have seen their peers arrested and thrown in federal prison. Even the ones who have not been arrested and put in federal prison have seen how normal people view them. January 6 rioters are not American heroes. They are viewed as at best, deluded idiots, and at worst, violent terrorists. And they know it.
Trump is going to lose next year. And it's not going to be close. The "leftists" claiming they won't vote for Biden because they think he's the president of Israel...well, they probably won't vote. But they won't be in states where it will matter. And things like gas prices and grocery bills will feel better by next fall. And Trump will have said many more, ever increasingly insane things between now and next fall, because he's insane, and he can't help himself, especially not when he gets desperate and can feel that the tide has turned against him. He is not winning anyone over at this point. At best, he is keeping the most diehard members of his cult on the compound with him. But nobody is signing up to join the cult in 2023/2024. Nobody.
― Tahuti Watches L&O:SVU Reruns Without His Ape (unperson), Friday, 29 December 2023 17:45 (three months ago) link
One of the things that struck me talking to Trump supporters after the 2020 election: they do not understand how much those of us who are not Trump supporters loathe him.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 29 December 2023 17:56 (three months ago) link
I thought they fed off of knowing how much everyone else hates them
― stephen miller is not your friend (Eric H.), Friday, 29 December 2023 18:05 (three months ago) link
One of many the things that made my head spin on election night was this nbc/cnn interview with a mellow middle age trump voter, asking her what her message is to all the people scared for their future under trump, her response was this super chipper dismissive “oh don’t worry! it’ll be fine!”, like someone told her she forgot to leave her porch light on.
― brimstead, Friday, 29 December 2023 18:07 (three months ago) link
(2020)
― brimstead, Friday, 29 December 2023 18:08 (three months ago) link
(2016, I mean, sorry, stopping posting now)
I'm not as confident as unperson that Trump will surely lose but I think the rest is pretty otm. rightwing violence is very much an issue and I am sure there's gonna be some dust ups if/when he loses but I really don't think we'll see something on the scale of J6 again (at least, not in service of Donald Trump). if there's one thing the right is really really good at it's astroturfing. they very much want you to believe they've got an entire militia on standby ready to fuck shit up if people mess with Trump. but yeah, I think this is very much the reality:
Many of his most violent supporters are already under arrest. The others have seen their peers arrested and thrown in federal prison. Even the ones who have not been arrested and put in federal prison have seen how normal people view them. January 6 rioters are not American heroes. They are viewed as at best, deluded idiots, and at worst, violent terrorists. And they know it.
it's hard to say anyone who participated in the J6 riot "won" in any sense. maybe the few people whose images got plastered all over TV, but nah, this thing has been an albatross for pretty much everyone involved. they accomplished nothing. many of them got arrested and thrown in jail. and I think it's not insignificant that Trump himself kinda left them all out to dry. I'm still very skeptical that Donald Trump commands some sort of sleeper cell army in this country - I think what he really controls is a mass of loud folks who very very badly want to be on TV.
― frogbs, Friday, 29 December 2023 18:09 (three months ago) link
Look at what happened to Tucker Carlson this year. He got fired from Fox, and instantly his audience diminished by about 90 percent, because "his" viewers weren't going to change the channel or go somewhere looking for him; they were just watching him because he was on Fox at 8 PM, or whatever. Same thing happened to Bill O'Reilly before him. When he was on Fox, when he was being spoon-fed to a vast herd of buffoons, he was very popular. The instant he was no longer on Fox, he was reduced to podcasting from his basement. This is just as observable with Trump, except losing Fox wasn't the blow — it was losing Twitter. Since losing his Twitter account in 2021, he's been on a downward slide. Not only does nobody outside the cult have any awareness of his Truth Social posts, even journalists don't bother covering them to the degree or in the manner that they covered his tweets. Trump has the stink of loser all over him.
― Tahuti Watches L&O:SVU Reruns Without His Ape (unperson), Friday, 29 December 2023 18:25 (three months ago) link
unperson/frogbs (responding to you both as one, though frogbs i note you disagreed with unperson on trump surely losing (as do i))
i definitely hope you're both right!
something i wanted to ask, then: if trump is politically obsolete, already, then (going back to what i was attempting to address in my post) what are your views on taking him off the ballot in some states? does it make any difference? (i have more baloney to say but want to make sure i understand what you're saying first)
― z_tbd, Friday, 29 December 2023 18:47 (three months ago) link
unperson and frogbs largely otm
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 29 December 2023 18:54 (three months ago) link
something i wanted to ask, then: if trump is politically obsolete, already, then (going back to what i was attempting to address in my post) what are your views on taking him off the ballot in some states? does it make any difference?
It makes a difference in that some states are willing to enforce a heretofore obscure section of the Fourteenth Amendment and I welcome it; but John Roberts and some portion of the Sinister Six will vitiate those eliminations anyway, so the point's moot.
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 29 December 2023 18:55 (three months ago) link
But nobody is signing up to join the cult in 2023/2024. Nobody.
I agree almost straight down the line with your post, but the true size of Trump's cult is the Republican Party, not just his adoring fans. All the Republicans who've stuck with the party since 2018 will be perfectly willing to vote for Trump again in 2024. That's his real base.
The structural advantages the GOP has in the solid South and the electoral college system that heavily favors rural/small state voters make him still formidable, if he can just budge a couple of 2020's swing states into his column. This election is no sure thing, even though Biden will crush Trump again in the popular vote.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 29 December 2023 18:57 (three months ago) link
Right, but as unperson said, who's joining the cult now? Not many.
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 29 December 2023 18:58 (three months ago) link
At this point they're only talking about primary ballots, right? General election ballots could presumably be a different court fight (and as Alfred notes, he installed a pliant Judiciary).
That said, any state willing to bump him would likely be one he wouldn't win anyway.
― CthulhuLululemon (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 29 December 2023 18:59 (three months ago) link
RE: taking Trhump off ballots, imo it's worthwhile to try. When it goes up to Supreme Court they'll have to rule on what they think the 14th Amendment actually says/means. It's the same thing the GOP is consistently doing, from gun rights and abortion rights to baking a gay wedding cake. They litigate the shit out of everything, it's only fair that we do likewise.
― Large, Complex, Detailed but Irrefutable POST (Dan Peterson), Friday, 29 December 2023 19:00 (three months ago) link
xp what was the cult before trump? did it come out of nowhere?
― z_tbd, Friday, 29 December 2023 19:00 (three months ago) link
what was the cult before trump? did it come out of nowhere?
It came out of the Tea Party, the Birther shitheads, and the vast swath of people who spend hours of every day mainlining FOX News and other right wing media, brainwashed by Limbaugh and Roger Ailes.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 29 December 2023 19:05 (three months ago) link
xp It was the Tea Party, I think.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 29 December 2023 19:05 (three months ago) link
xp lots of crossover in that Venn diagram.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 29 December 2023 19:06 (three months ago) link
In 2015 and 2016 he animated a group of non-voters and so-called independents -- many of whom had voted for Obama in 2008 -- to become Republicans.
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 29 December 2023 19:06 (three months ago) link
That's the difference that made the difference imo.
It's significant, if largely irrelevant at this point, that Trump launched his political career riding the "birther" canard. That was a pure expression of white reaction to a black president.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 29 December 2023 19:07 (three months ago) link
guess it depends on the state, it won't matter for CO but isn't Maine the state which does all four electoral votes individually? so it could matter there. ultimately I don't think it'll actually happen, obviously Trump will fight tooth and nail for it and the deck is largely stacked in his favor. but I do think the fact that there's gonna be a huge argument about whether or not he's Constitutionally eligible to run is not exactly where you wanna be once the campaign actually starts.
― frogbs, Friday, 29 December 2023 19:08 (three months ago) link
xps i thought there'd be more nixonland heads in this thread!
my view is that the current trump cult is the latest variation on a long line of conservative cults with roots in white evangelical alliances with the far right in the 50s and 60s (at least).
and my point in bringing that up is that the cult will continue on after trump is gone
― z_tbd, Friday, 29 December 2023 19:11 (three months ago) link
Nixonland is a key text. Having just read Doppelganger, I'd say that and Nixonland together capture our moment all too well.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 29 December 2023 19:14 (three months ago) link
I am not sure we've ever seen a cult of personality in the U.S. quite like Trump's. I can't even compare Reagan's following. But I think the comparison to evangelicals is otm.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 29 December 2023 19:14 (three months ago) link
if trump is politically obsolete, already, then (going back to what i was attempting to address in my post) what are your views on taking him off the ballot in some states?
I think he should be removed from the ballot in all 50 states. He should be ineligible to run for president — or, indeed, for any public office. And you can't make that decision based on what his most insane cultists might think, say, or do about it. You have to make the decision based on whether it's the right decision. And legally (and morally, for whatever that's worth) it is. Will Republicans attempt to get every Democratic candidate thrown off future ballots for specious reasons? Of course. But again, you can't take that as your guide and therefore do nothing. You have to do the right thing anyway.
― Tahuti Watches L&O:SVU Reruns Without His Ape (unperson), Friday, 29 December 2023 19:23 (three months ago) link
what makes the Trump cult so different is it has this aspect of reality TV to it, like I believe it's ushered in this new era of Republicans whose previous life goal was to be on something like The Bachelorette. through Trump they've found another way in. I keep thinking of MTG and how the people who knew her before she ran for Congress said she wasn't anything like this when they knew her, in fact they wouldn't have even guessed she was conservative. you see that all over Congressional Republicans now. lost in this weird battle for Speaker was the fact that the GOP-led house has passed essentially nothing since winning it back in 2022. Jim Jordan hasn't passed a bill, he hasn't even sponsored one. they're not even using trans panic and "the war on woke" or whatever to accomplish their goals, that in fact is their goal, to get on TV and loudly scream "WHATS HAPPENED TO OUR COUNTRY?"
(obviously there are a group of more sinister, goal-oriented Republicans who have glomped onto this movement to actually do evil shit, but I think the core of Trumpland is still something else)
― frogbs, Friday, 29 December 2023 19:26 (three months ago) link
i agree with the thought that the only states that would move to take him off the ballot are blue states, so it doesn't matter electorally. but i think the direct electoral effect is maybe the least important thing about the whole issue. more important (i think) is what that looks like to a typical gop voter. i think, to many people, and especially with the entire gop spin machine flooding the zone with shit, and the quality of civic education in the united states being _abysmal_ for several generations now, it comes across as "the democrats tried to cheat in the blue states".
people don't like losers, and it's true that trump has been losing a lot*, but i think they dislike cheaters even more than losers
― z_tbd, Friday, 29 December 2023 19:28 (three months ago) link
unperson i think this is a totally legit view, maybe even what i ultimately believe ("you have to do the right thing anyway.")i worry about the people who might bear the physical cost of doing the right thing, though
― z_tbd, Friday, 29 December 2023 19:29 (three months ago) link
frogbs otm. I think the other aspect of this to keep in mind is that the entire project of the modern Republican Party is to continue to benefit the very wealthiest in the U.S. to the greatest extent possible. This culture war shit is just a smokescreen. However, I do think that the people who actually run the party do run the risk of being hoist by their own petard.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 29 December 2023 19:29 (three months ago) link
get on TV and loudly scream "WHATS HAPPENED TO OUR COUNTRY?"
And solicit donations thereon.
― Large, Complex, Detailed but Irrefutable POST (Dan Peterson), Friday, 29 December 2023 19:30 (three months ago) link
but also those people pretty plainly saw what happened on Jan 6th, they saw Trump defending those dudes, they see the fact that he has mountains of legal issues stemming from virtually every action he takes, there are literally recorded phone calls of him outright trying to cheat, and so on and so forth so idk if this is the sort of thing that's gonna motivate people to vote. "the democrats tried to cheat in the blue states" is gonna motivate people to vote for him just as much as "how dare you shame this man for locker room talk" did in 2016
that said it would definitely be a lot better for everyone if they got this sorted out before the primaries, having him win the nomination and THEN getting kicked off the ballot is not a great look
― frogbs, Friday, 29 December 2023 19:33 (three months ago) link
i think my issue with the "you have to do the right thing anyway" strategy is that sometimes life is like
https://i.imgur.com/uZh0bq1.jpg
― z_tbd, Friday, 29 December 2023 19:36 (three months ago) link
Is Jake Gyllenhaal on that track or
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 29 December 2023 19:39 (three months ago) link
the person on the top track is indeed jake gyllenhaal. but on the bottom track are stephen miller, alex jones, dennis miller, desantis, and trump
― z_tbd, Friday, 29 December 2023 19:44 (three months ago) link
oh wait, i made that really easy lol. make dennis miller and jake gyllenhaal trade places, so jake's in the group with the other horrible guys and dennis miller is by himself. would you be willing to murder miller, jones, desantis, and trump, and sacrifice jake gyllenhaal, while letting dennis miller live?!
― z_tbd, Friday, 29 December 2023 19:46 (three months ago) link
That left turn is so sharp the car might tip, so I'd pull the lever and hope.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 29 December 2023 19:49 (three months ago) link
That's indeed what I've in mind
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 29 December 2023 19:54 (three months ago) link
This blog post sums up my feelings pretty well.
"If trump is taken off the ballot his supporters will respond with violence" is literally saying the law is whatever fascists want it to be because you're afraid of them.The Supreme Court is a Christofascist Trump-loving hive of authoritarian quislings, and they’ll almost certainly find some way to say that insurrection is totally cool when their buddy does it. But—and this is a key point—you don’t need to help Clarence Thomas and Sam “I love to torture women to death” Alito stab democracy through the fucking heart.You don’t need to crawl on hands and knees to Trump, scraping your face raw and bloody in the hopes that he won’t be mean to you. Instead, you can use the court rulings to remind voters that yes, Trump committed insurrection, and yes, our Constitution frowns on that. You can tell coup plotters, fascists, and the rest of Trump’s MAGA horde of sycophants, bullies, and cowards that we are going to stand together for democracy, and we’re going to use whatever means are at our disposal to win. ...This is an easy win. Trump’s a massive fascist pustule; each court ruling tossing him off the ballot is a news cycle about how he’s a massive fascist pustule. So help spread the message that he’s a massive fascist pustule! The alternative is to turn yourself into a fucking worm, squishing and sliding through Trump’s foetid orange leavings, aerating them and helping fascism grow. Don’t be that fucking worm.
The Supreme Court is a Christofascist Trump-loving hive of authoritarian quislings, and they’ll almost certainly find some way to say that insurrection is totally cool when their buddy does it. But—and this is a key point—you don’t need to help Clarence Thomas and Sam “I love to torture women to death” Alito stab democracy through the fucking heart.
You don’t need to crawl on hands and knees to Trump, scraping your face raw and bloody in the hopes that he won’t be mean to you. Instead, you can use the court rulings to remind voters that yes, Trump committed insurrection, and yes, our Constitution frowns on that. You can tell coup plotters, fascists, and the rest of Trump’s MAGA horde of sycophants, bullies, and cowards that we are going to stand together for democracy, and we’re going to use whatever means are at our disposal to win.
This is an easy win. Trump’s a massive fascist pustule; each court ruling tossing him off the ballot is a news cycle about how he’s a massive fascist pustule. So help spread the message that he’s a massive fascist pustule! The alternative is to turn yourself into a fucking worm, squishing and sliding through Trump’s foetid orange leavings, aerating them and helping fascism grow. Don’t be that fucking worm.
― Tahuti Watches L&O:SVU Reruns Without His Ape (unperson), Friday, 29 December 2023 20:01 (three months ago) link
“Leavings” is going to be rotating thru my conversations for the next week thank u
― Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Friday, 29 December 2023 20:03 (three months ago) link
Thanks for that, unperson. (And thanks, all of you, for today’s discussion.)
― Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 29 December 2023 20:10 (three months ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/8yojXc1.jpg
― z_tbd, Friday, 29 December 2023 20:11 (three months ago) link
Sorry Jake, but the numbers don't add up for you.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 29 December 2023 20:14 (three months ago) link
We'll still have Ryan Gosling.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 29 December 2023 20:17 (three months ago) link
The Tea Party is descended from Gingrich / Contract With America, which descends from talk radio, which descends from Reagan, who descended from Goldwater, and ultimately the Klan and the Confederacy, etc.
An anti-tax, small-government, anti-federal politics is inherently a racist politics.
― CthulhuLululemon (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 29 December 2023 20:18 (three months ago) link
Sure, there is a through line straight from the Confederacy to the present day GOP and Trump is its latest heir, but the particulars of the Trump cult added a new twist in that his most crazed and loyal acolytes were basically non-voters prior to Trump because of the prevalence of conspiratorial thinking among them, as typified by the birthers. It's no coincidence Trump served as their figurehead.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 29 December 2023 20:25 (three months ago) link
booming piece
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/05/opinion/trump-insurrections-disqualification-14th-amendment.html?unlocked_article_code=1.LU0.cfLX.xqQybZP3qsK-&smid=url-share
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 5 January 2024 14:30 (three months ago) link
Yeah it’s the most convincing thing I’ve read on what he should be disqualified. Every day I curse Pelosi for not fast tracking impeachment after January 6.
― Expansion to Mackerel (Boring, Maryland), Friday, 5 January 2024 15:29 (three months ago) link
Why he should be disqualified
Look me in the eyeThen tell me that I'm unqualified
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 5 January 2024 15:32 (three months ago) link
But these objections rest on a poor foundation. They treat Trump as an ordinary candidate and Jan. 6 as a variation on ordinary politics. But as the House select committee established, Jan. 6 and the events leading up to it were nothing of the sort. And while many Americans still contest the meaning of the attack on the Capitol, many Americans also contested, in the wake of the Civil War, the meaning of secession and rebellion. That those Americans viewed Confederate military and political leaders as heroes did not somehow delegitimize the Republican effort to keep them, as much as possible, out of formal political life.
What unites Trump with the former secessionists under the disqualification clause is that like them, he refused to listen to the voice of the voting public. He rejected the bedrock principle of democratic life, the peaceful transfer of power.
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 5 January 2024 15:32 (three months ago) link
xxpost He was impeached 7 days after Jan. 6.
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Friday, 5 January 2024 15:33 (three months ago) link
It was just enough time for Congress to scrape the feces off their desks.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vA9B4VU8FlM
― Little Billy Love (Tom D.), Friday, 5 January 2024 15:49 (three months ago) link
It brings to mind that (from what I see) there's too much debate around whether or not he "planned" to have the Jan 6 mob forcefully invade to overturn the election as the specific action and goal, and not enough pointing out that regardless of the particular intention and orchestration there's the fact that there was no true effort by him to tell them to STOP once things got out of hand. This seems overly generous but I've always felt that he himself and his advisors didn't really specifically conceive of a plan to literally have the mob violently overturn the election, but instead thought things would play out as sort of a Boston Tea Party style patriotic act of defiance that would be looked back at in history books in a similar positive light. But entertaining that idea feels like a weaker position to prosecute from, though I don't think the distinction really lets him off the hook at all given the lack of action once things really got out of hand. It just feels more in line with his/their style of opportunistic narrative manipulation to "see how things play out" and then leverage plausible deniability to steer the narrative accordingly.
― Evan, Friday, 5 January 2024 15:53 (three months ago) link
Back in 2021 the only way I stopped a conservative relative from babbling about Trump's culpability was when I quietly asked, "If he didn't encourage a rebellion on his behalf, then why didn't he stop it?"
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 5 January 2024 15:55 (three months ago) link
sorry didn't mean to use "things got out of hand" twice, I hate when I do stuff like that
― Evan, Friday, 5 January 2024 15:55 (three months ago) link
OMG and "things would play out" I guess I'm too tired to edit myself
― Evan, Friday, 5 January 2024 15:57 (three months ago) link
Exactly Alfred, and in conversation it feels like the only direct response would be a rhetorical "what was he supposed to do?!" with no interest in an answer
― Evan, Friday, 5 January 2024 16:00 (three months ago) link
see this is the problem, like yes if you give Trump the extreme benefit of the doubt I guess you can sorta exonerate him on this. problem is no politician in American history deserves the benefit of the doubt less than Donald Trump, the guy who will praise dictators and Nazis if they're nice to him, the guy who's defrauded every single person he's ever worked with, the guy who outright said he would only accept the results of the election if he won, the guy who was literally recorded trying to strongarm a secretary of state into "finding" more votes
regardless of who actually planned what the point is if he thought getting a mob together to storm the Capitol would actually overturn the election there is like a 100% chance he would try to do it
― frogbs, Friday, 5 January 2024 16:06 (three months ago) link
maybe the only way out of this that don't mek scotus look incredibly stupid or corrupt is that either 1 standards and process for finding insurrection must be required, or 2 standards and process for national or presidential balloting must be required.
re: an exception to states' rights being needed wrt balloting for national office-- pre-scotus gorsuch hisself is cited himself in CO's decision, stating that states HAVE such authority. he will need to do a little work ("well NOT for preznit," or "well NOT with regards standards for finding insurrection.")
― digital chirping and whirring (Hunt3r), Friday, 5 January 2024 16:13 (three months ago) link
how you find inherent contradiction or absurdity making such things required, that's where the magic is
― digital chirping and whirring (Hunt3r), Friday, 5 January 2024 16:14 (three months ago) link
the Jan 6th data from Trump's twitter dm's and phone acct that Jack Smith has acquired becomes public it could be interesting. I presume there must be some damning evidence there if they are going to present it to a jury.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 5 January 2024 16:17 (three months ago) link
I was just reflecting on it because:
-It's how I think it really played out, I'm not reaching to give him benefit of the doubt or exonerate him of his responsibility or guilt-As Alfred mentioned in his anecdote, it derails the central counterargument that his supporters push back on, which is whether it was preconceived and puts focus back on who is responsible for it going as far as it did and what was the hope that motivated letting it continue
― Evan, Friday, 5 January 2024 16:19 (three months ago) link
there's too much debate around whether or not he "planned" to have the Jan 6 mob forcefully invade to overturn the election as the specific action and goal, and not enough pointing out that regardless of the particular intention and orchestration there's the fact that there was no true effort by him to tell them to STOP once things got out of hand
"but officer, when i drank those ten beers, i didn't plan on running you off the road. no fair!"
― reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 5 January 2024 16:20 (three months ago) link
Dude got on national television and said “stand down and STAND BY”
Even his nominal attempt to calm thing down included a call to await further orders
― the new drip king (DJP), Friday, 5 January 2024 16:26 (three months ago) link
When I heard his Proud Boys remark on that first debate, I thought, "He means it" and "He also has no idea how English works."
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 5 January 2024 16:28 (three months ago) link
Taylor Swift did not direct her fans to attack Jake Glynenhaal, but she once they started she did nothing to stop them
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Friday, 5 January 2024 16:32 (three months ago) link
xpost That's the catch, isn't it? Trump only selectively seems to know what words mean.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 5 January 2024 16:34 (three months ago) link
― Expansion to Mackerel (Boring, Maryland), Friday, 5 January 2024 17:21 (three months ago) link
I was listening to them talk about this stuff on NPR this morning, and someone emailed in basically asking, where's the question in any of this? We watched it happen, we've all seen the tapes, people actually died, hundreds have been arrested, we've heard the testimony, there have been numerous investigations, what part of any of this is in doubt?
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 5 January 2024 17:30 (three months ago) link
― Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 5 January 2024 17:40 (three months ago) link
It's not as if anyone arguing in favor of Trump is doing so in good faith or making any attempt at an airtight argument. It's people with brains and eyes expending all the energy pointing at the mountain of evidence and saying 'you clearly did it!' and Diaper Don and his Doo-Doo Brigade simply responding with a lackadaisical 'nuh-uh'.
― Great-Tasting Burger Perceptions (Old Lunch), Friday, 5 January 2024 17:45 (three months ago) link
it's real simple, the question is whether or not Trump is above the law, as it pretty much always has been
― frogbs, Friday, 5 January 2024 17:46 (three months ago) link
I know what Steven Seagal would say.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 5 January 2024 17:47 (three months ago) link
"buy my illegal crypto"?
― Disco Biollante (Neanderthal), Friday, 5 January 2024 17:49 (three months ago) link
even the Trump–Raffensperger phone call should be enough to get him off the ballot. Trying to intimidate local officials to change an election result and then he calls it a "perfect phone call" the mind boggles. I'm totally persuaded towards the ballot removal argument now, even it is going to be overturned.
He's such a shite excuse for an insurrectionary criminal mastermind, leaving behind a trail of digital evidence of him committing his crimes is an amateur mistake.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 5 January 2024 17:53 (three months ago) link
no, the perfect phone call was where he tried to extort Zelenskyy for Hunter Biden dirt, the Raffensperger phone call was the one where everyone admitted he did nothing wrong
― frogbs, Friday, 5 January 2024 17:57 (three months ago) link
“This was a perfect phone call,” he has said of his call to Raffensperger
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 5 January 2024 18:02 (three months ago) link
IIRC, he said "stand back," not "stand down," which of course means something different.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 5 January 2024 18:03 (three months ago) link
Trump repeating himself? Never thought I’d see the day.
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Friday, 5 January 2024 18:04 (three months ago) link
As I understand it, Trump is petitioning the SC to not just decide if the 14th amendment applies, but whether or not he committed insurrection, which puts the SC in a bit of an awkward position in terms of how they can approach this.
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Friday, 5 January 2024 18:05 (three months ago) link
There is no way the Court can decide that at this stage.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 5 January 2024 18:06 (three months ago) link
and yet the argument his lawyers seem to be making is that even if the Colorado law could be applied to Trump, it wasn't valid because he didn't do an insurrection. There isn't any reason why they had to choose that particular line of argument, yet they did.
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Friday, 5 January 2024 18:10 (three months ago) link
At this stage in his mental decline, I'm only surprised he hasn't requested SCOTUS to rule on whether he was the best president of all time
― Wack Snyder (Eric H.), Friday, 5 January 2024 18:38 (three months ago) link
It's official folks, scrotum has named me this years best president of all time. That's right you heard it hear first and it's what everyone's been saying.
― Evan, Friday, 5 January 2024 18:44 (three months ago) link
the "god made trump" thing trump posted on truth social has me fucking dying
"come home hungry, have to wait until the first lady is done with lunch with friends, then tell the ladies to be sure and come back real soon, and mean it"
― c u (crüt), Friday, 5 January 2024 21:38 (three months ago) link
SCOTUS has agreed to hear the disqualification appeal
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 5 January 2024 23:03 (three months ago) link
Surely that will turn out well.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 5 January 2024 23:08 (three months ago) link
Not a whole of case law to draw on
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 5 January 2024 23:13 (three months ago) link
No worries. They'll just make something up and wrap an argument around it.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 5 January 2024 23:19 (three months ago) link
Surely not!
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 5 January 2024 23:54 (three months ago) link
they're gonna argue that he's not an 'officer,' even though the Constitution calls the president an officer like 25 times
― Andy the Grasshopper, Saturday, 6 January 2024 00:07 (three months ago) link
man that seems too actually stupid to work to me still.
nah it'll be like the constitution allows "time place and manner" this aint that, and it's illogical to have different candidates for president, so unless there is a federal conviction or finding that disqualifies, he's in.
― a single gunshot and polite applause (Hunt3r), Saturday, 6 January 2024 00:17 (three months ago) link
man it's like the founders/amenders made all these rules and shit so that a treacherous tyrant don't have to be stabbed like julius caesar, but it's like, donnie's destiny is to croak "et tu, nancy?" while she holds a dripping dagger. i dunno who the octavian will be, but pelosi getting to stab trump still seems worth it to me right now.
― a single gunshot and polite applause (Hunt3r), Saturday, 6 January 2024 00:20 (three months ago) link
i guess it should a senator not a house rep.
― a single gunshot and polite applause (Hunt3r), Saturday, 6 January 2024 00:21 (three months ago) link
Lindsey Graham should do the honors.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Saturday, 6 January 2024 00:22 (three months ago) link
No, Graham's role is to throw himself weeping on top of the coffin.
― Tahuti Watches L&O:SVU Reruns Without His Ape (unperson), Saturday, 6 January 2024 00:23 (three months ago) link
Good point. I would say Ted Cruz, who certainly has reason to want to stab Trump in the back, but he wouldn't have the nerve.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Saturday, 6 January 2024 00:30 (three months ago) link
https://crabdiving.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/ted-cruz-humiliation.jpg
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Saturday, 6 January 2024 00:32 (three months ago) link
It’s gonna be Christie or LCheney
― the new drip king (DJP), Saturday, 6 January 2024 00:40 (three months ago) link
It'll be Robot DeSantis, nothing will stand in the way of his prime directive.
― nickn, Saturday, 6 January 2024 00:46 (three months ago) link
Caesar Trump would a thousand Mark Anthonys
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Saturday, 6 January 2024 02:03 (three months ago) link
And Baron would slay them all
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Saturday, 6 January 2024 02:04 (three months ago) link
Trump: All I know about magnets is this, give me a glass of water, let me drop it on the magnets, that’s the end of the magnets pic.twitter.com/TopK4BRsOq— Acyn (@Acyn) January 6, 2024
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Saturday, 6 January 2024 03:38 (three months ago) link
When Jefferson Davis was on trial for treason, his lawyer used the Fourteenth Amendment to argue that since he's already banned from office he shouldn't face any further punishment. He didn't need to have been found guilty of insurrection for the Fourteenth Amendment to apply to him.
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2023/12/11/what-happened-when-the-us-failed-to-prosecute-an-ex-president
Davis walked out a free man, released on bail. And not too many months after that the federal government’s case against him fell apart. There’s no real consensus about why. The explanation that Davis’s lawyer Charles O’Conor liked best had to do with Section 3 of the Fourteenth Amendment, known as the disqualification clause, which bars from federal office anyone who has ever taken an oath to uphold the Constitution of the United States and later “engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof.” O’Conor argued that Section 3’s ban on holding office was a form of punishment and that to try Davis for treason would therefore amount to double jeopardy. It’s a different kind of jeopardy lately.
― symsymsym, Saturday, 6 January 2024 05:50 (three months ago) link
I just saw the vid of a party at Mar-a-Lago: Trump looking like the saddest rich geriatric freak in the world. The daylong pissed Giuliani, slow dancing and looking like he's probably grotesquely putting his hands all over an unfortunate woman on the dancefloor, while fiftysomething Vanilla Ice is on the stage with a teenage mutant ninja turtle. Not feeling so fomo about not attending any Christmas parties last year, now.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 6 January 2024 11:41 (three months ago) link
When Real Life is weirder than A.I.
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 6 January 2024 15:47 (three months ago) link
blood meridian is less disturbing than calzino's description. rudy is dancing dancing, tho maybe it's trump claiming immortality
― a single gunshot and polite applause (Hunt3r), Saturday, 6 January 2024 16:01 (three months ago) link
When Real Life is weirder than A.L.
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Saturday, 6 January 2024 18:34 (three months ago) link
he is a great favourite
― close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Saturday, 6 January 2024 19:12 (three months ago) link
https://www.wbez.org/stories/trump-did-not-sign-illinois-candidate-loyalty-oath/1d1fbaf4-261f-4c15-b466-8fb749d404e1
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 7 January 2024 17:13 (three months ago) link
a peek into how things work out well for trump:
if he would have signed it, it would have been news
since he did not sign it, it is news
― z_tbd, Sunday, 7 January 2024 17:30 (three months ago) link
nobody should sign it tbh, but his likely reason for not signing it still emblematic of his douchery
― Disco Biollante (Neanderthal), Sunday, 7 January 2024 17:34 (three months ago) link
He signed it in 2020 lol
― Pat Methamphetamine Trio (is this anything?) (Boring, Maryland), Sunday, 7 January 2024 18:53 (three months ago) link
icrime at the time but the laws we changed em
― a single gunshot and polite applause (Hunt3r), Sunday, 7 January 2024 19:11 (three months ago) link
he posted a video yesterday that strongly implied george bush sr. killed kennedy lmao
― treeship., Sunday, 7 January 2024 19:12 (three months ago) link
this election is going to be absolutely insane.
― treeship., Sunday, 7 January 2024 19:13 (three months ago) link
this is brutal, pretty much how all interviews with these lunatics should go
BORIS SANCHEZ: What would be your justification for removing Joe Biden from the ballot in Missouri?JAY ASHCROFT: There have been allegations that he's engaged in insurrectionSANCHEZ: How so?ASHCROFT: Um, I've seen allegations from the lieutenant governor of Texas pic.twitter.com/687uqKyCUw— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) January 8, 2024
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Monday, 8 January 2024 20:30 (three months ago) link
show me staters demand you show the evidence that joe biden did not engage in insurrection, allegedly, is what we heard
― z_tbd, Monday, 8 January 2024 20:56 (three months ago) link
"Boris Sanchez" is a comic book character name.
― Tahuti Watches L&O:SVU Reruns Without His Ape (unperson), Monday, 8 January 2024 20:57 (three months ago) link
seems to have some interviewing skills tho...
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Monday, 8 January 2024 20:58 (three months ago) link
Treeship: as opposed to all those really civilized and sober ones that we've gotten for the last, uh, 44 years?
― CthulhuLululemon (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 8 January 2024 21:22 (three months ago) link
Lemme guess: this Jay cat's related to our beloved John Ashcroft.
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 8 January 2024 21:22 (three months ago) link
his son!
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Monday, 8 January 2024 21:28 (three months ago) link
looks like he might have been conceived by a minute droplet of aftercum
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 8 January 2024 21:30 (three months ago) link
Trump the Comforter:
As a close-knit community in Iowa grapples with a school shooting that killed a sixth grader and left seven others injured, former President Donald Trump had this advice: “Have to get over it.”
“We’re really with you as much as anybody can be. It’s a very terrible thing that happened,” he said Friday during a speech in Sioux City, Iowa. “And it’s just horrible to see that happening, it’s just horrible. So surprising to see it here. But, uh, have to get over it. We have to move forward, we have to move forward.”
― Andy the Grasshopper, Monday, 8 January 2024 21:34 (three months ago) link
posts consist of so many things, so many ideas; really almost any combination of words can form a post, this is the magic of ilx
― Evan, Monday, 8 January 2024 21:37 (three months ago) link
Hardly getting over it, he's hardly getting used to getting by ...
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 8 January 2024 21:43 (three months ago) link
Hüsker Dön
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 8 January 2024 21:50 (three months ago) link
just be grateful for the time you have your with your child, they may not always be around
― Andy the Grasshopper, Monday, 8 January 2024 21:56 (three months ago) link
TBF Trump is viewing the tragedy from his own perspective, where like losing Don Jr. just means there's suddenly one less person to go fetch him a hamberder, a little sad but you move on
― Great-Tasting Burger Perceptions (Old Lunch), Monday, 8 January 2024 22:17 (three months ago) link
Masochists can listen to the first (I believe) hearing to determine if a president has immunity for all "official" acts:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PEQ1aToavl8
The seemingly incredulous judge (I think) just asked the defense if a president could be prosecuted for ordering the assassination of a political rival, and the defense basically said no, unless the president were convicted in an impeachment trial.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 9 January 2024 14:44 (three months ago) link
Judge asks if a president ordered the murder of political opponent by Seal Team 6, would he be immune from criminal prosecution? Trump lawyer says yes, in effect, unless he was impeached and convicted first.— Jim Sciutto (@jimsciutto) January 9, 2024
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Tuesday, 9 January 2024 14:56 (three months ago) link
oh sorry already mentioned
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Tuesday, 9 January 2024 14:57 (three months ago) link
https://x.com/jimsciutto/status/1744735106970108230?s=20
― impostor syndrome to the (expletive) max (stevie), Tuesday, 9 January 2024 15:06 (three months ago) link
Judge noted that Trump argued during impeachment trial that, in effect, there was no need to vote to convict there because he was subject to criminal prosecution later, adding those arguments are in the congressional record. She then asked his lawyer, “What changed?”— Jim Sciutto (@jimsciutto) January 9, 2024
it's very interesting to listen to this, but good lord, someone give this lawyer some water and a cough drop
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Tuesday, 9 January 2024 15:13 (three months ago) link
Covid *taps noggin knowingly*
― Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Tuesday, 9 January 2024 15:59 (three months ago) link
Meanwhile, one of the defendants in the GA trial has filed a motion accusing Fani Willis of having an improper relationship with one of her prosecutors and paying him excessively to be on the team then taking fancy vacations with him.
I have no idea how real any of this is, could be utter BS. Apparently Willis will be filing a response soon.
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Tuesday, 9 January 2024 17:00 (three months ago) link
lol, that voice, reminds me of giamatti in american splendor
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 9 January 2024 17:00 (three months ago) link
it would be pretty wild to put yourself front and center against Trump and his hordes without knowing they would be coming for you with anything they could. xp
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Tuesday, 9 January 2024 17:02 (three months ago) link
I kept thinking of this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czWGMpRm9I8
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Tuesday, 9 January 2024 17:03 (three months ago) link
she probably went on vacation to a hotel and coincidentally ran into him there and said 'nice to see you' and put her hand on his shoulder once and then left to go to her room
― Disco Biollante (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 9 January 2024 17:04 (three months ago) link
Thats true, but it's also kind of a wildly bold claim to put in a court motion if it's completely fabricated
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Tuesday, 9 January 2024 17:04 (three months ago) link
it doesn't have to be completely fabricated. just misrepresented.
it's what Trump does and trains the people he pays to do - find something relatively minor that could be spun into a big deal with a little imagination
― Disco Biollante (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 9 January 2024 17:06 (three months ago) link
that is entirely possible, but also not exactly a great outcome
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Tuesday, 9 January 2024 17:08 (three months ago) link
the fuck is a great outcome?
because who knows what actually happened. the filing was made, and Trump's lawyer already gave the excuse as for why she can't provide evidence in the filing, and Trump can then go on social media and share the bombshell news, knowing that Fani Willis cannot reply to it publicly and has to follow the proper channel to respond.
there might be something to it, but there doesn't have to be. Trump's claims stay in the news and circulating among his idiot fanbase for several days, if not longer, and by the time the complaint is dismissed as a nothingburger, the story's circulated enough to poisoned everybody's perception of what happened
― Disco Biollante (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 9 January 2024 17:12 (three months ago) link
I thought you lot had a revolution to get rid of this sort of behaviour from your rulers?
― Little Billy Love (Tom D.), Tuesday, 9 January 2024 17:12 (three months ago) link
xpost I mean he literally did this all the time when he was President
― Disco Biollante (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 9 January 2024 17:13 (three months ago) link
basically, this:
https://www.thedailybeast.com/fani-willis-allegations-wont-put-trumps-georgia-prosecution-at-risk
(written by former federal prosecutor)
I'd say any outcome that allows Willis to continue to pursue the case is good. If she has to step down, the case is over.
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Tuesday, 9 January 2024 17:14 (three months ago) link
since apparently it may be paywalled:
There is something to worry about in a motion filed today by a Donald Trump co-defendant seeking to dismiss the indictment and disqualify Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis. But the worry has nothing to do with the criminal prosecution.The motion was filed by attorney Ashleigh Merchant who represents Trump co-defendant Michael Roman—a former Trump campaign official—and accuses DA Willis of misconduct, conflict of interest, and even possible federal crimes based upon Merchant’s unsupported claim that Willis had “engaged in an improper and clandestine personal relationship during the pendency of the case” with a special prosecutor she hired to work on the case.Holding aside the fact that the motion manages to ramble on for 39 pages without offering any proof of a relationship between the two prosecutors, the motion’s legal theory is defective because at most the allegations amount to an HR personnel issue, not a prosecutorial misconduct—one much less a supposed federal crime.First, contrary to the Trump lawyer’s argument, there is no “conflict of interest” presented by two prosecutors having a romantic relationship. That’s because they are on the same side of the case. If a prosecutor and a defense attorney were a romantic item, then the defendant might argue that their defense counsel was conflicted because the relationship might cause the defense attorney to fail to zealously represent the client by going easy on their friends-with-benefits opponent.To get around this problem, defendant Roman argues that the conflict arises from the allegation that the special prosecutor—Nathan Wade—spends money on vacations with Willis, and that Willis therefore improperly “profits” from the prosecution. The problem with this argument is the fact that Willis is already paid to prosecute the case, so there is no “profit” in any prosecution for her.Any theory that Wade spent money on Willis derived entirely from his salary as a special prosecutor would require proof that—but for his special prosecutor salary—Wade could not afford to spend any money on his supposed dates with Willis. That’s hardly a convincing proposition on its face, and one that would be particularly to prove at any evidentiary hearing.But as The New York Times reported, one law and ethics professor—Clark D. Cunningham of Georgia State University—opined that Roman’s motion should have included “sworn affidavits by witnesses with personal knowledge or authenticated documents,” so the lack of any such proof makes it appear likely that any hearing would produce nada.The Atlanta Journal-Constitution—which first reported the story—quotes a professor emeritus ethics professor, Stephen Gillers, as saying if the allegations are true then “Willis was conflicted in the investigation and prosecution of the case” for lack of required “independent professional judgment.” But the professor goes on to clarify “that does not mean that her decisions were in fact improperly motivated,” but that the relationship could cause the public and state to lack confidence in her independent judgment.” Public confidence, however, is not a piece of evidence in criminal trials—because we don’t conduct prosecutions based on public opinion polling.Second, let’s look at a somewhat similar scenario involving the storied O.J. Simpson murder trial. In that case, it later became rumored (to this day, these remain unproven rumors) that the two lead prosecutors—Marcia Clark and Chris Darden—had been romantically involved during the case.If Simpson had been convicted, such a relationship would not have been grounds for reversal of his conviction because their theoretical relationship could not have affected the evidence in the case. That’s the problem for team Trump—it doesn’t matter what kind of relationship prosecutors may have unless that relationship somehow affects the evidence in the case.The aftermath of the Simpson case actually offers the only real cause for concern about friends with benefits dynamics between prosecutors. Namely, that it might prove a distraction.As Chris Darden put it in 2016, reacting to renewed interest in the case because of the hit FX series The People vs O.J. Simpson, “If I were to say I had a relationship with Marcia Clark, people would say we lost the case because we were more interested in intimacy than the law and the facts.”Defendant Roman also makes the argument that the entire indictment is defective because Wade had not filed his oaths of office prior to starting work. But that argument was already rejected previously by Judge Scott McAffee who though so little of the argument that he analogized it to the Monty Python skit about a dead parrot.So what is there to worry about with this motion? It’s the racism and sexism inherent in this effort to smear the district attorney and taint the prospective jury pool.Attacking Fani Willis’ character is just a continuation of the racist trope of hyper-sexualized black women and men. Like the media image of Asian women as “Dragon Ladies” (or submissive sex dolls), the “Jezebel” image of black women is equally degrading and harmful. Writing in The Washington Post, Jagger Blaec quoted Sherronda J. Brown: “In order for white women to be upheld as pure, black women are first defined as licentious and sexually deviant.”Trump himself wasted no time jumping on the bandwagon to smear Willis posting in his social media about the allegations. This is not new for Trump, as he previously made baseless claims about Willis supposedly of having an affair with a gang member. Then he referred to Willis as a “young racist”—which is Trump code used in place of a racial epithet like the “N-word.”So the real concern is not the meritless legal arguments made in this latest maneuver by the Trump legal team. No, the real worry is that it’s a continuation of Trump’s willingness to play to racist and sexist hatred if he thinks it will help him and the willingness of millions of Americans to condone it.
The motion was filed by attorney Ashleigh Merchant who represents Trump co-defendant Michael Roman—a former Trump campaign official—and accuses DA Willis of misconduct, conflict of interest, and even possible federal crimes based upon Merchant’s unsupported claim that Willis had “engaged in an improper and clandestine personal relationship during the pendency of the case” with a special prosecutor she hired to work on the case.
Holding aside the fact that the motion manages to ramble on for 39 pages without offering any proof of a relationship between the two prosecutors, the motion’s legal theory is defective because at most the allegations amount to an HR personnel issue, not a prosecutorial misconduct—one much less a supposed federal crime.
First, contrary to the Trump lawyer’s argument, there is no “conflict of interest” presented by two prosecutors having a romantic relationship. That’s because they are on the same side of the case. If a prosecutor and a defense attorney were a romantic item, then the defendant might argue that their defense counsel was conflicted because the relationship might cause the defense attorney to fail to zealously represent the client by going easy on their friends-with-benefits opponent.
To get around this problem, defendant Roman argues that the conflict arises from the allegation that the special prosecutor—Nathan Wade—spends money on vacations with Willis, and that Willis therefore improperly “profits” from the prosecution. The problem with this argument is the fact that Willis is already paid to prosecute the case, so there is no “profit” in any prosecution for her.
Any theory that Wade spent money on Willis derived entirely from his salary as a special prosecutor would require proof that—but for his special prosecutor salary—Wade could not afford to spend any money on his supposed dates with Willis. That’s hardly a convincing proposition on its face, and one that would be particularly to prove at any evidentiary hearing.
But as The New York Times reported, one law and ethics professor—Clark D. Cunningham of Georgia State University—opined that Roman’s motion should have included “sworn affidavits by witnesses with personal knowledge or authenticated documents,” so the lack of any such proof makes it appear likely that any hearing would produce nada.
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution—which first reported the story—quotes a professor emeritus ethics professor, Stephen Gillers, as saying if the allegations are true then “Willis was conflicted in the investigation and prosecution of the case” for lack of required “independent professional judgment.” But the professor goes on to clarify “that does not mean that her decisions were in fact improperly motivated,” but that the relationship could cause the public and state to lack confidence in her independent judgment.” Public confidence, however, is not a piece of evidence in criminal trials—because we don’t conduct prosecutions based on public opinion polling.
Second, let’s look at a somewhat similar scenario involving the storied O.J. Simpson murder trial. In that case, it later became rumored (to this day, these remain unproven rumors) that the two lead prosecutors—Marcia Clark and Chris Darden—had been romantically involved during the case.
If Simpson had been convicted, such a relationship would not have been grounds for reversal of his conviction because their theoretical relationship could not have affected the evidence in the case. That’s the problem for team Trump—it doesn’t matter what kind of relationship prosecutors may have unless that relationship somehow affects the evidence in the case.
The aftermath of the Simpson case actually offers the only real cause for concern about friends with benefits dynamics between prosecutors. Namely, that it might prove a distraction.
As Chris Darden put it in 2016, reacting to renewed interest in the case because of the hit FX series The People vs O.J. Simpson, “If I were to say I had a relationship with Marcia Clark, people would say we lost the case because we were more interested in intimacy than the law and the facts.”
Defendant Roman also makes the argument that the entire indictment is defective because Wade had not filed his oaths of office prior to starting work. But that argument was already rejected previously by Judge Scott McAffee who though so little of the argument that he analogized it to the Monty Python skit about a dead parrot.
So what is there to worry about with this motion? It’s the racism and sexism inherent in this effort to smear the district attorney and taint the prospective jury pool.
Attacking Fani Willis’ character is just a continuation of the racist trope of hyper-sexualized black women and men. Like the media image of Asian women as “Dragon Ladies” (or submissive sex dolls), the “Jezebel” image of black women is equally degrading and harmful. Writing in The Washington Post, Jagger Blaec quoted Sherronda J. Brown: “In order for white women to be upheld as pure, black women are first defined as licentious and sexually deviant.”
Trump himself wasted no time jumping on the bandwagon to smear Willis posting in his social media about the allegations. This is not new for Trump, as he previously made baseless claims about Willis supposedly of having an affair with a gang member. Then he referred to Willis as a “young racist”—which is Trump code used in place of a racial epithet like the “N-word.”
So the real concern is not the meritless legal arguments made in this latest maneuver by the Trump legal team. No, the real worry is that it’s a continuation of Trump’s willingness to play to racist and sexist hatred if he thinks it will help him and the willingness of millions of Americans to condone it.
― Disco Biollante (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 9 January 2024 17:15 (three months ago) link
so let me get this straight, they have no evidence of this whatsoever?
― frogbs, Tuesday, 9 January 2024 17:16 (three months ago) link
they claim they have it but that they can't share it until prosecutor's divorce records are unsealed and that it will "all come out during that hearing"
so yes, they have no evidence.
― Disco Biollante (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 9 January 2024 17:17 (three months ago) link
I'm totally open to the idea that it is 100% fabricated. Like I said, it seems like kind of a crazy bold step to take, and weirdly specific details. The article you shared is the only thing I've seen so far that is critical of all of this from a legal perspective, that it should have no bearing either way. Hopefully that is true. Pretty much everything else I've seen has just reported that there was a motion and what was in it without taking much of a stand on what it means.
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Tuesday, 9 January 2024 17:22 (three months ago) link
again - we've seen him and his lawyers do this again and again. It's literally what they did when they tried to challenge the election.
Find something that looks improper, however small. Frame it like it's a big deal. Use it to influence the public that things are rigged.
He and his lawyer know this will fail but he knows this will be in the news cycle for a week and that's what he wants. it's what he always wants.
how many times do he or his lawyers or the lawyers of people affiliated with him actually ever win anything?
― Disco Biollante (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 9 January 2024 17:25 (three months ago) link
I don't know, but I think we should spend three years investigating it. Starting after the election, of course.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 9 January 2024 17:35 (three months ago) link
I mean even if it's true, so what? they're on the same side
― frogbs, Tuesday, 9 January 2024 17:43 (three months ago) link
p much the crux of the article.
― Disco Biollante (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 9 January 2024 17:48 (three months ago) link
"Ok, ok. I'll fuck you. If you'll do something for me..."
"What?"
"Maybe I could convince you to help put Trump away"
"ok...well, I mean that's what you're already paying me f-"
"maybe you could say something in court that...i don't know...influences the case and gets Trump locked out"
"but that's already my jo-"
"look don't twist my arm man - maybe you could let slip in court some incriminating things Trump did"
"but I"m already the prose...you know never mind, sure, I'll do it. (unzips)"
― Disco Biollante (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 9 January 2024 17:51 (three months ago) link
the "FBI Lovers" were on the same side and he never shut up about them. It really riles him up to think about his enemies getting it on with each other.
― BrianB, Tuesday, 9 January 2024 17:54 (three months ago) link
If the accusations are completely true, the argument raised by that article may well be technically correct, but I'm not convinced that's a line Willis will be able to hold. I could very well be wrong, but I could easily see it being a problem just because that's the kind of fucked up world we live in.
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Tuesday, 9 January 2024 18:02 (three months ago) link
I mean....the author isn't even arguing on the validity of what is even alleged, he's saying "it's irrelevant because even if it didn't happen, that wouldn't impact the case or get it dismissed"
court of public opinion, well....they're mostly idiots so, lost cause
― Disco Biollante (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 9 January 2024 18:22 (three months ago) link
I don't see the case being dismissed based on this motion. I'm more concerned about scenarios in which these spurious allegations would put Willis in a position where she is forced to step down or is removed, which is the kind of thing we see happen all the time. If that were to happen, the case would be dead in the water.
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Tuesday, 9 January 2024 18:31 (three months ago) link
Here's the motion. It's very light on legal authority.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1gjEkIK3dMeS6zibCi4Wn_yaW8lprmIDM/view
https://www.atlantanewsfirst.com/2024/01/09/read-allegations-misconduct-against-fulton-county-da-fani-willis/
It's kind of a rope a dope because the whole theory of the motion (to the extent there is one) is more that that public officials shouldn't personally profit from their positions rather than that there is a conflict of interest. Which is much more applicable to the defendants here, as much as there is 39 pages of DARVO-type "Willis is the real racketeer" hand wringing.
― felicity, Tuesday, 9 January 2024 18:50 (three months ago) link
to be clear, I have no doubt this motion is primarily a mountain of Trumpian bullshit
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Tuesday, 9 January 2024 18:55 (three months ago) link
I'm more concerned about scenarios in which these spurious allegations would put Willis in a position where she is forced to step down or is removed, which is the kind of thing we see happen all the time.
I'm with you on that. The motion to dismiss was just a vehicle for floating a rumor of scandal into the public mind by disguising it as ordinary legal maneuvering. This is practical lawyering in the worst sense.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 9 January 2024 18:56 (three months ago) link
The litigation privilege is a powerful cover for scandal mongering
― felicity, Tuesday, 9 January 2024 18:59 (three months ago) link
I'm actually looking forward to listening to the Michael Popok analysis on this tomorrow morning, as much as I feel embarrassed admitting this!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 9 January 2024 20:01 (three months ago) link
On the same day Trump's lawyer argues that it would be legal for a US president to assassinate a political rival, we get this: https://newrepublic.com/post/177935/roger-stone-audio-assasinate-democrats-swalwell-nadler
― BrianB, Wednesday, 10 January 2024 00:22 (three months ago) link
These people all fucking suck.
I was thinking today about all these turds that just disappeared into the background once again. Scott Pruitt, Jeff Sessions, Rex Tillerson, Steve Mnuchin. All these assholes. I thought, where did they go? Where are they now? And then I realized wherever they were, they were still fucking rich and had faced next to zero consequences for shitting all over this country.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 10 January 2024 00:36 (three months ago) link
Betsy De Vos, Mike Pompeo, Stephen Miller, even Bill "Robert Johnson" Barr. They're all truly awful people. A true kakistocracy.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 10 January 2024 00:40 (three months ago) link
I still can't believe "President Donald Trump names the CEO of ExxonMobil as secretary of state" is something that actually happened and not a gag in Futurama.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 10 January 2024 00:43 (three months ago) link
Not only were they assholes, most of them were completely incompetent. In fact, I struggle to think of one who wasn't. Mnuchin? He was like a cartoon villain, but was he incompetent?
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 10 January 2024 00:47 (three months ago) link
and he turned out to be among the least evil of evil men
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 10 January 2024 00:47 (three months ago) link
Apparently he negotiated with Pelosi in good faith over the pandemic relief checks in spring '20. He was a grifter and a bounty hunter but not a Trumper.
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 10 January 2024 00:48 (three months ago) link
Still can’t believe “President Donald Trump” was a thing. The Simulation is just fucking with us now.
― Pat Methamphetamine Trio (is this anything?) (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 10 January 2024 00:51 (three months ago) link
These are the people you appoint when you want to destroy the institutions they are to lead.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 10 January 2024 00:53 (three months ago) link
Well, yeah
― Pat Methamphetamine Trio (is this anything?) (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 10 January 2024 00:54 (three months ago) link
Never forget
https://i.imgur.com/JlqbS4D.jpg
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 10 January 2024 00:58 (three months ago) link
Hey let's not forget Eric Greitens, Bob McDonnell, Dennis Hastert, Tom DeLay, Larry Craig, Anthony Scaramucci.
Here's hoping for Lauren Boebert, Chip Roy, Matt Gaetz, MTG, etc. to join them in infamy soon
― CthulhuLululemon (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 10 January 2024 01:00 (three months ago) link
We can only hope that Boebert's political career has come to an end with her drunken fight with her ex at a bar in Silt, Colorado.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 10 January 2024 01:02 (three months ago) link
Was that before or after the handy in the theater?
― nickn, Wednesday, 10 January 2024 01:06 (three months ago) link
Oh, the fight was just last week, well after the Beetlejuice Affair.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 10 January 2024 01:08 (three months ago) link
I guess I missed that one.
― nickn, Wednesday, 10 January 2024 01:13 (three months ago) link
I thought she just switched districts, from the one where she won by like half a percent to a safer, redder district.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 10 January 2024 01:33 (three months ago) link
After Donald Trump lost the 2020 election, Mnuchin established an investment fund, Liberty Strategic Capital. The fund obtained funds from the Saudis, Emirati and Qatari sovereign wealth funds. According to the New York Times, "The scale of Mr. Mnuchin’s fund and its investments from countries where he traveled as Treasury secretary have raised questions about whether he used his government role to enrich himself."
Hmm.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 10 January 2024 01:35 (three months ago) link
Boebert will continue to prosper as long as she annoys people like me.
Owning the libs is way more important to her base than proper theater and restaurant etiquette.
― CthulhuLululemon (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 10 January 2024 01:50 (three months ago) link
Peter @notalawyer.bsky.social · 51mfunniest outcome of the Trump immunity case is the court finds that the President has complete immunity and then Biden immediately kills Trump
― assert (matttkkkk), Wednesday, 10 January 2024 02:13 (three months ago) link
Her old district included the town where I went to high school. I mean, hasn't Pueblo suffered enough?
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 10 January 2024 02:13 (three months ago) link
stephen miller was quoted at length in https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/11/us/politics/trump-2025-immigration-agenda.html. he'll be in the administration again if trump wins, unlike mnuchin, sessions, tillerson, etc.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 10 January 2024 05:21 (three months ago) link
Miller is The Boy Who Lived
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Wednesday, 10 January 2024 14:34 (three months ago) link
You can't kill that which does not have a heart
― impostor syndrome to the (expletive) max (stevie), Wednesday, 10 January 2024 14:38 (three months ago) link
I think we can legit expect MyPillow in the cabinet somewhere ... probably on top of the sheets
― Wack Snyder (Eric H.), Wednesday, 10 January 2024 14:40 (three months ago) link
Secretary of Pillow Fights
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Wednesday, 10 January 2024 14:54 (three months ago) link
every time i read the stories associated with the reality of yesterday's proceedings i like literally cannot believe this is the reality of this shit. like, the fact that people are just arguing what they are arguing, and not being pelted with feces and stones.
― a single gunshot and polite applause (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 10 January 2024 16:09 (three months ago) link
Plus the whole thing where it's like someone who's actively feasting on an infant slinging baseless accusations about someone else just having shoplifted from a CVS and a distressing number of people are all like '(gasp) not a CVS!!!' rather than 'please stop ceaselessly prevaricating as a means of distracting us from the fact that we need to drive you out of society, you baby-gobbling monster'.
― Great-Tasting Burger Perceptions (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 10 January 2024 16:15 (three months ago) link
Today the NYT push alerted a headline "I'm Rubber, You're Glue" in reference to Trump and these very concerns and I had a similar "what in god's name happened to everything" moment
― Wack Snyder (Eric H.), Wednesday, 10 January 2024 16:17 (three months ago) link
Yeah - every now and again the sheer deranged nature of modern American political life does smack one about the head and face
― Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 10 January 2024 16:19 (three months ago) link
The deepest of roffles: per Joshua Friedman on Bluesky, "Please enjoy the full 10-page correspondence of Trump's attorney trying to negotiate his court appearance tomorrow"
https://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/nyscef/ViewDocument?docIndex=_PLUS_cASZsP0hNiBQOHYbw_PLUS_TPQ==
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 10 January 2024 18:13 (three months ago) link
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution today had extensive coverage on the Willis allegations and how they might affect the Trump indictment. I do not remember a single line questioning whether the allegations were true. There was, however, a front-page story on her supposed paramour.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 10 January 2024 18:16 (three months ago) link
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, January 10, 2024 10:13 AM bookmarkflaglink
That link didn't seem to work but the bluesky one does
https://bsky.app/profile/joshuajfriedman.com/post/3king6b7qav22
Incredible stuff, and would be very funny if it weren't so tragic.
― felicity, Wednesday, 10 January 2024 18:43 (three months ago) link
Continuing deep thanks to those credulous media outlets still, here in the year of our lord two thousand and twenty four, just taking any shit he spouts at face value.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 10 January 2024 18:45 (three months ago) link
oh cool Chris Kise's email address isn't redacted ,time 2 start trolling
― Disco Biollante (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 10 January 2024 18:46 (three months ago) link
The link works as long as the two equal signs at the end of it are included.
― that's when I reach for my copy of Revolver (WmC), Wednesday, 10 January 2024 18:47 (three months ago) link
Experience - Commitment - ResultsAppellateComplex LitigationWhite-Collar Defense
― Disco Biollante (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 10 January 2024 18:48 (three months ago) link
emails the court in lower case as if e.e. cummings went to law school
― felicity, Wednesday, 10 January 2024 18:56 (three months ago) link
The judge went out of his way to accommodate Trump, and of course it wasn't enough.
The denial of the request for Trump to speak was classic.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 10 January 2024 19:08 (three months ago) link
as if e.e. cummings went to law school
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 10 January 2024 19:09 (three months ago) link
After explicitly being told 'these are the conditions. they are not negotiable. take it or leave it', I like how Trump's lawyer shows the judge who's really the boss here by writing "Mr. Trump will speak tomorrow". When you represent Trump you set a torch to your professional standing and then trample the ashes in case there's anything left of it.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 10 January 2024 19:44 (three months ago) link
https://media.tenor.com/buxTDVSqwhgAAAAC/asha-rangappa.gif
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 10 January 2024 19:47 (three months ago) link
fwiw ned i feel like now bsky posts are public you may was well just link the post rather than manually c+p
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 10 January 2024 20:14 (three months ago) link
scuse me as I kiss Chris Kise
― Disco Biollante (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 10 January 2024 20:28 (three months ago) link
When someone holding a bible talks about how he is voting for Trump because of Trump's "principles"...to paraphrase ICP: "Fucking Trump voters, how do they work?"
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/11/us/politics/iowa-voters.html
― scott seward, Thursday, 11 January 2024 15:12 (three months ago) link
Trump reflects the eschatologically dwindling evangelical Xtian population's certainty that everyone else around them is evil?
― Wack Snyder (Eric H.), Thursday, 11 January 2024 15:15 (three months ago) link
he probably still would have appealed to a lot of those voters in the 90s, feel like the big difference with his forward trajectory is that he started appealing to a significantly greater percentage of people who really should fucking know better.
― Disco Biollante (Neanderthal), Thursday, 11 January 2024 15:19 (three months ago) link
"I just want people to follow the law"
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/bomb-threat-targeted-home-judge-trumps-civil-fraud-trial-rcna133416
― Disco Biollante (Neanderthal), Thursday, 11 January 2024 15:21 (three months ago) link
Kise probably called it in himself
― Disco Biollante (Neanderthal), Thursday, 11 January 2024 15:23 (three months ago) link
So there was just a courtroom meltdown?
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 11 January 2024 18:19 (three months ago) link
lol he said "it's a fraud on me"
― Disco Biollante (Neanderthal), Thursday, 11 January 2024 18:22 (three months ago) link
lol Engoran said "please control your client" to Kise at one point
― Disco Biollante (Neanderthal), Thursday, 11 January 2024 18:29 (three months ago) link
Trump says AG James is the reason why Exxon left New York and moved to Texas. Exxon moved to Texas in 1989 pic.twitter.com/EmBfetgznM— Acyn (@Acyn) January 11, 2024
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 11 January 2024 18:46 (three months ago) link
the lawyer nodding her head in agreement!
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 11 January 2024 18:47 (three months ago) link
'other companies are gonna be moving out of NY as well'
Including yours, idiot
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 11 January 2024 19:11 (three months ago) link
it's a circus that never ends. here's hoping Trump's DC trial on the Jan 6 conspiracy doesn't devolve into Trump spouting nonsense as badly as this one has.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 11 January 2024 19:54 (three months ago) link
It hasnt really been that bad imo! Judge may have been a trifle too clever at times but all his nonsense has been outside the courtroom bc when he’s in court he has to shut the fuck up
― Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Thursday, 11 January 2024 19:56 (three months ago) link
So he just started ranting and couldn't be stopped huh
― nashwan, Thursday, 11 January 2024 20:23 (three months ago) link
out of character tbh
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 11 January 2024 20:23 (three months ago) link
Hopefully he’ll come back, do it again, and be held in contempt of court
― Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 11 January 2024 20:24 (three months ago) link
^ rejected Steely Dan lyric
― CthulhuLululemon (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 11 January 2024 21:53 (three months ago) link
After a few minutes, Justice Arthur Engoron — who had earlier denied Trump permission to give a closing statement at the trial — cut him off and recessed for lunch.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 11 January 2024 22:11 (three months ago) link
Trump later threw his lunch plate at the wall.
― epistantophus, Friday, 12 January 2024 00:40 (three months ago) link
RIP Tyson chicken nuggies
― Disco Biollante (Neanderthal), Friday, 12 January 2024 00:42 (three months ago) link
Trump telling senior citizens to risk their lives braving subzero temps for him in the Iowa caucuses: "you can't sit home," Trump said. "if you're sick as a dog... Even if you vote and then pass away, it's worth it."
― BrianB, Monday, 15 January 2024 15:08 (three months ago) link
Even if you were kidding, I’d 100% believe it.
― Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 15 January 2024 15:10 (three months ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6L2K-VHkiM
― BrianB, Monday, 15 January 2024 15:13 (three months ago) link
"If you want to save America from crooked Joe Biden, you must go caucus tomorrow. First step, very first step," the former president said at the tail end of a 100-minute speech in Indianola. "We're gonna do it. We're gonna do it big. You got to get out.""You can't sit home," Trump added, raising his voice. "If you're sick as a dog, you say: 'God, I gotta make it.' Even if you vote and then pass away, it's worth it."Trump paused to let his supporters laugh before pressing on."If you're sick, if you're just so sick, you can't, darling, I don't think I can. Get up. Get up. You get up, you're gonna vote," Trump said, imitating a woman urging her husband to vote. "Yes, darling, because ultimately, we know who calls the shots, right?"Republican supporters cheered for the former president's caricature.Trump added that the caucuses would be held indoors and voters would "all be safe.""But you gotta get up, you gotta vote, because it has nothing to do with anything but taking our nation back, and that's the biggest thing there is," Trump said.
"You can't sit home," Trump added, raising his voice. "If you're sick as a dog, you say: 'God, I gotta make it.' Even if you vote and then pass away, it's worth it."
Trump paused to let his supporters laugh before pressing on.
"If you're sick, if you're just so sick, you can't, darling, I don't think I can. Get up. Get up. You get up, you're gonna vote," Trump said, imitating a woman urging her husband to vote. "Yes, darling, because ultimately, we know who calls the shots, right?"
Republican supporters cheered for the former president's caricature.
Trump added that the caucuses would be held indoors and voters would "all be safe."
"But you gotta get up, you gotta vote, because it has nothing to do with anything but taking our nation back, and that's the biggest thing there is," Trump said.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 15 January 2024 15:15 (three months ago) link
I don't mind if those voters die on their way to vote for Trump in a snowstorm tbh
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 15 January 2024 15:17 (three months ago) link
at the tail end of a 100-minute speech
― Wack Snyder (Eric H.), Monday, 15 January 2024 15:21 (three months ago) link
My senior citizen mom was thinking about going to caucus with whoever has the biggest non-trump group in her district but the weather plus having to register as a Republican will probably keep her at home.
― BrianB, Monday, 15 January 2024 15:28 (three months ago) link
Here's to Trump pulling a William Henry Harrison at a outdoor rally this week.
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 15 January 2024 15:30 (three months ago) link
On my gravestone I want it to read: He gave his life to stop a RINO from getting a good news cycle and 5% poll bump
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Monday, 15 January 2024 23:30 (three months ago) link
Anything to distract, still:
Trump has been muttering loudly & slamming his hand at counsel’s table.Judge Kaplan now, before the jury was brought back in says: “before we bring in the jury I’m just going to ask Mr. Trump to take special care to keep his voice down so the jury does not overhear it.”— Katie Phang (@KatiePhang) January 17, 2024
Kaplan threatened to kick Trump out of court after Carroll counsel complained again about Trump's commentary. Kaplan: "Mr. Trump has the right to be present here. That right can be forfeited." He continued: "Mr. Trump, I hope I don’t have to consider excluding you from the trial"
― Wack Snyder (Eric H.), Wednesday, 17 January 2024 18:40 (three months ago) link
Reporters in the courtroom heard Trump say, “I would love it.”“I know you would,” Kaplan said. “You just can’t control yourself in this circumstance apparently.”
“I know you would,” Kaplan said. “You just can’t control yourself in this circumstance apparently.”
and then everything resumes as-is because he gets all the warnings in the world because nobody wants to give him the press of being thrown out of the courtroom
― Disco Biollante (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 17 January 2024 18:42 (three months ago) link
I hope E Jean Carroll gets in a 'See you next time!' on her way out of the courthouse
― Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 17 January 2024 18:44 (three months ago) link
Why does Trump care about this trial so much? Why not be out giving speeches somewhere? He just needs the fuel for the persecution narrative that badly?
― what you say is true but by no means (lukas), Wednesday, 17 January 2024 19:00 (three months ago) link
yes, obv, you said it yourself, it's fuel
― that's when I reach for my copy of Revolver (WmC), Wednesday, 17 January 2024 19:17 (three months ago) link
Trump's campaign is threatening Nikki Haley that if she doesn't drop out they're going to after her on her alleged infidelities. It's all part of the pattern.
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Wednesday, 17 January 2024 19:20 (three months ago) link
Pot, meet kettle
― Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 17 January 2024 19:22 (three months ago) link
Unless it’s with corpses who would ever give a shit.
― B. Amato (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 17 January 2024 19:24 (three months ago) link
https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/46174c5a0f84d87192300ee2f8c984192f85e4d7/0_101_3024_1814/master/3024.jpg?width=620&dpr=2&s=none
― Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 17 January 2024 19:30 (three months ago) link
Just the amount of money and human effort to move this clown around to do all this crap is crazy in itself.
― The Artist formerly known as Earlnash, Wednesday, 17 January 2024 19:31 (three months ago) link
so he only sexually assaults women that he considers 'his type', good to know
― Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 17 January 2024 19:33 (three months ago) link
Mushrooms can be choosy.
― the body of a spider... (scampering alpaca), Wednesday, 17 January 2024 20:05 (three months ago) link
I mean, this is the argument well-regarded people have been making in newspapers and magazines with better prose. 'If you hold major political figures accountable, a lot of people and politicians might get mad and retaliate in potentially destabilizing ways.' That's basically it. https://t.co/gRbCwMW29p— Osita Nwanevu (@OsitaNwanevu) January 18, 2024
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 18 January 2024 16:53 (three months ago) link
YEARS OF TRAUMA TRYING TO DETERMINE GOOD FROM BAD for February thread title.
― il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Thursday, 18 January 2024 17:06 (three months ago) link
thread title? heck, make it the new board description.
― peace, man, Thursday, 18 January 2024 17:15 (three months ago) link
Trump's just getting some payola to promote this:
https://lrdisk.bandcamp.com/album/ten-years-of-trauma
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Thursday, 18 January 2024 17:16 (three months ago) link
It never really registered until now that he chose that avatar ... the flag overlay I get, but does he actually think looking mean is tantamount to looking good?
― badpee pooper (Eric H.), Thursday, 18 January 2024 17:23 (three months ago) link
weak man feigning strength
― impostor syndrome to the (expletive) max (stevie), Thursday, 18 January 2024 17:28 (three months ago) link
― jaymc, Thursday, 18 January 2024 17:28 (three months ago) link
Corey Hart better sue
― Disco Biollante (Neanderthal), Thursday, 18 January 2024 18:03 (three months ago) link
Given all we've learned about the political leanings of '80s B and C level celebrities, I think I'd rather not know how Corey Hart would react to that.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 18 January 2024 18:12 (three months ago) link
With ANY MISTAKE, EVEN IF WELL INTENDED is Trump maybe sorta letting it slip that he may have fucked up but it’s okay because he meant well?
― Large, Complex, Detailed but Irrefutable POST (Dan Peterson), Thursday, 18 January 2024 18:12 (three months ago) link
xp too late, the 8-episode Netflix doc series is already halfway thru production
― badpee pooper (Eric H.), Thursday, 18 January 2024 18:15 (three months ago) link
Like Nixon, but without the charm.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 18 January 2024 18:24 (three months ago) link
campaign slogan
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 18 January 2024 18:36 (three months ago) link
i've seen the never surrender t-shirts. the ones with the picture of a guy who was LITERALLY surrendering when his picture was being taken. i hate that guy.
― scott seward, Thursday, 18 January 2024 19:02 (three months ago) link
― B. Amato (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 18 January 2024 19:07 (three months ago) link
He’s mad and strong and handsome and rich
He's the stern father they never had. Or is that the stern father they all had?
― nickn, Thursday, 18 January 2024 19:12 (three months ago) link
personally believe that it is widely not understood how much the cycle of abuse contributes to the popularity of donald j trump
― ꙮ (map), Thursday, 18 January 2024 19:17 (three months ago) link
― Disco Biollante (Neanderthal), Thursday, 18 January 2024 19:32 (three months ago) link
its true, everyone I know who's really into Trump is a miserable fuck
― frogbs, Thursday, 18 January 2024 19:33 (three months ago) link
there's something I think of as the "Jesus is coming back" problem.
the people at my Fundie church were insane, and that shouldn't be ignored, but even then, when they said that phrase, it meant "all of our pain and suffering will be over, evil will be vanquished, we'll be at peace for eternity with our Creator" - it was something they looked forward to. or at worst, they'd be saying it to scare someone into getting baptized ASAP.
when the "religious right" says it, it means "Jesus is going to come back and destroy all of my enemies", like he's a junkyard dog on a leash. religion is a revenge fantasy, a way to eliminate the weak by virtue of being on the winning team.
so naturally, a President who essentially promises to do exactly that will do until Machine Gun Jesus comes back.
― Disco Biollante (Neanderthal), Thursday, 18 January 2024 19:44 (three months ago) link
basically I blame Dirty Harry for everything
― Disco Biollante (Neanderthal), Thursday, 18 January 2024 19:45 (three months ago) link
Part of the fundie mindset does depend on everything being worse so that Jesus will rescue his flock. At least subconsciously, they're doing what they can to sort of speed up the schedule by actively making everything worse.
― badpee pooper (Eric H.), Thursday, 18 January 2024 19:47 (three months ago) link
They don't wanna be rescued before Jesus takes an AR-15 and blows away their enemies.
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 18 January 2024 19:48 (three months ago) link
in 53 years nobody will be allowed outdoors, and all communication will be done via social media, and it will be 98% bots so nobody will know if anybody but them is alive. or if they are really alive and not just an unaware bot themselves.
― Disco Biollante (Neanderthal), Thursday, 18 January 2024 19:50 (three months ago) link
The Matrix still has so much to answer for
― badpee pooper (Eric H.), Thursday, 18 January 2024 19:59 (three months ago) link
hearty late-afternoon lol at "junkyard dog on a leash"
― dell (del), Thursday, 18 January 2024 21:03 (three months ago) link
― nickn, Thursday, January 18, 2024 1:12 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
― ꙮ (map), Thursday, January 18, 2024 1:17 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
^This. More specifically: how people relate to those cycles of abuse. I've never understood folks (like say Trump's spawn) who keep celebrating big mean glowering daddy in hope of rewards that they will never, ever get. Me, I'm fucked up in all my own special ways but mostly I'm just hyperallergic to bullies now.
― Great-Tasting Burger Perceptions (Old Lunch), Thursday, 18 January 2024 21:07 (three months ago) link
I feel like we haven't had enough big thinkpieces on the complete takeover of the right wing by the culture of bullying. Not that it was ever absent, but Trump obviously brought it center stage, made it text instead of the subtext. Just relentlessly picking the softest targets — trans teens, undocumented immigrants, school librarians — and turning a firehose of vitriol and legal harassment on them.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 18 January 2024 21:15 (three months ago) link
donald trump inherited $400,000,000 from his parents. anyone voting GOP admires that inherent quality over any character or ethical virtue. they want to be rich. they profess reverence for a religion that damns the rich to hell. what can you do
― reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 18 January 2024 21:17 (three months ago) link
Give them hell, for starters
― badpee pooper (Eric H.), Thursday, 18 January 2024 21:19 (three months ago) link
I have a campaign ad idea... just clips of Trump saying terrible things, followed by a grimacing Joe Biden: "I'm Joe Biden... and I don't approve of this message."
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 18 January 2024 21:21 (three months ago) link
xps - fwiw, Trump's spawn hope for the specific and obvious reward of a huge inheritance. The threat of disinheritance is a well-known way that wealthy families exert abusive control over their offspring. Donald, Sr. wields it like a hammer on his kids.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 18 January 2024 21:32 (three months ago) link
Yep:
The habitual ways of doing journalism no longer make sense. That the American way of politics has passed a watershed. That change is what Sharlet’s work struggles to characterize, as a desperate imperative—the way “these folks are changing the aesthetic of American politics.”
He gave as an example an infamous interview Lesley Stahl did on 60 Minutes with Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene. It had been characterized largely by Stahl’s frustration in attempting to fact-check her in real time, and many viewers’ frustration that she wasn’t doing it right, or enough, or adequately; the way Stahl arched her eyebrows in the face of the most fantastical, hateful lies, for example.
Quite brilliantly, Sharlet explained how this made his point about the inadequacy of political journalism’s inherited storytelling frames.
“[Greene], I would say, is the congressman from the fascist party. And I actually would like to speak a little bit more about that term, because I think it’s important.” He noted Stahl’s consternation as a function of the brokenness of the very cosmos in which her career—a great one, he stressed—was built. According to the old rules, a respected gatekeeper from a marquee journalistic institution grills a “rising star,” as a sort of ritual vetting to which the politician cannot but defer. “But Marjorie Taylor Greene isn’t a ‘rising star.’ Those old frames don’t work anymore,” Sharlet explained. “Marjorie Taylor Greene is not trying to join the cosmos that Lesley Stahl and much of American journalism is set up to cover.” She inhabited an entirely separate one: a fascist one, which the likes of Stahl have no idea how to comprehend. “Fascism is a dream politics. It’s a mythology. You can’t fact-check myth. You can’t arch an eyebrow and make it go away.”
https://prospect.org/politics/2024-01-17-metaphors-journalists-live-by-part-i/
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 18 January 2024 21:32 (three months ago) link
I am a bit more inclined toward tipsy mothra's viewpoint.
The bullies, the bullied; who's up, who's down, who gets shoved into the locker of a middle school and who does the shoving.
That is WAY more relevant to most people's lives than hazy biblical prophecy shit. Everybody went to middle school. We all experienced that dynamic.
Only a few people have read and understood Ezekiel 3.52 or Amos 4.72 or II Corinthians 4.15 or whatever. That's a tiny slice of the population.
Most Republicans are more like "tell me who I am supposed to hate today." It's a mistake to assume that just because they identify as culturally Christian means that they have any familiarity with Christian theology.
To the extent that they have a religion, it almost always consists of the AR-15 and the Ford F-150, plus camouflage hats. I have a degree in philosophy and am not impressed by the level of intellectual rigor in the MAGA crowd, sorry.
― Wine not? (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 18 January 2024 22:02 (three months ago) link
I have had to remind some people here in TN that the same people totally freaked out about drag queens now were totally freaked out about the "immigrant caravan" 5-6 years ago, and about Tennessee being taken over by Sharia Law 4-5 years before that. It's just a nonstop sequence of making people terrified of actually powerless people, and then using them as a scapegoat to vilify in the interest of consolidating political and cultural power. Not like it's a new tactic, but it's kind of become the whole POINT of Republican politics.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 18 January 2024 22:11 (three months ago) link
Tipsy otm
It is just grievance, weaponized.
― Wine not? (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 18 January 2024 22:19 (three months ago) link
Kinda makes me wonder if you could deflate a Republican one-to-one by simply asking them, "So what am I supposed to be scared of this month?"
― Tahuti Watches L&O:SVU Reruns Without His Ape (unperson), Thursday, 18 January 2024 22:20 (three months ago) link
You could really have fun by asking them, "What are you scared of this month?"
― badpee pooper (Eric H.), Thursday, 18 January 2024 22:21 (three months ago) link
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, January 18, 2024 3:21 PM (fifty-eight minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
Hire this guy, Biden campaign (seriously)
― Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 18 January 2024 22:22 (three months ago) link
I've always likened the Trump phenomenon to a snobs vs. slobs comedy, where his critics are the stuck-up snobs, shaking their fists and issuing decrees of Double Secret Probation, and his slovenly fans have their mouths full of mashed potatoes, manners be damned and ready to go.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 18 January 2024 22:22 (three months ago) link
Hi we kinda tried that in Virginia and lost, with devastating effects.
"Don't elect the obviously horrible person" sometime fails, unless you can also argue for a more inspiring and hopeful alternative. Good luck USA
― Wine not? (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 18 January 2024 22:30 (three months ago) link
the campaign ad idea makes sense in a better world, but honestly i think the effect of showing trump saying awful things, followed by joe biden disagreeing with them, is exactly what's happening now. trump's base is made up of people who enjoy the awful things he says. biden's base is made up of people who disagree with the awful things. if you showed 100 people an ad of trump being himself and biden calling him out on it, i think 35 people would say they love what trump said, 35 would say they completely disagree, 10 would be unsure what to think but all their friends and family love trump so they figure it's fine, 10 would unsure what to think but all their friends and family hate trump so they figure biden is right, and then there'd be a leftover 10 undecided people who keep chewing the drywall and forgot the question
― z_tbd, Thursday, 18 January 2024 22:35 (three months ago) link
Hillary totally tried that kind of ad, too. Just give us a good reason to vote for you, it’s not hard. (Answer; keeping abortion legal)
― B. Amato (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 18 January 2024 22:44 (three months ago) link
Xp Yum, drywall
― Wine not? (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 18 January 2024 22:45 (three months ago) link
And remember that one side of the political divide (the side that's up until recently been losing the culture wars in a rout) is openly ready for and wants the civil war to begin ... so ads like that only serve to reinforce and define the battle stations
― badpee pooper (Eric H.), Thursday, 18 January 2024 22:46 (three months ago) link
Maybe the judo move is to make a pro Trump ad of him saying awful things against his own party.
― Philip Nunez, Thursday, 18 January 2024 22:47 (three months ago) link
Hell, run ads showcasing Hunter Biden's junk that end with a dare for Eric and Don Jr. to show off theirs
― badpee pooper (Eric H.), Thursday, 18 January 2024 22:49 (three months ago) link
I think it has to be a push/pull between 'Trump bad, Biden good'... but when there is actual, recent footage of Trump saying he's proud of overturning Roe v. Wade, by God, use it
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 18 January 2024 22:52 (three months ago) link
I had called it an xp but now I think "Yum, drywall" is going to be my default response to everything from now on. Tasty tasty drywall, lol we are doomed, lol nothing matters
― Wine not? (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 18 January 2024 22:54 (three months ago) link
The modern GOP was created by and wholly owned by the 1%, who have created this population of id-driven monsters in order to win elections so they can cling to wealth and power. Now they are discovering that their creation no longer fully obeys them, large parts have fastened their allegiance to fascist usurpers, who recently discovered that they can hijack the party and get to drive the vehicle like joy-riding delinquents.
The 1% haven't entirely woken to the extent of this danger because the extremely wealthy find it impossible to believe that they aren't the undisputed masters any more. Our new fascist politicos will be happy to share power with the 1% -- right up to the day when they can seize it all and the 1% find out they no longer call the tune.
Our best hope is to outnumber the id-driven multitude election by election, because this unholy marriage of wealth to the crazies is not going anywhere anytime soon.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 18 January 2024 23:26 (three months ago) link
As Habba hammered on about the sexual commentary on Carroll’s social media accounts (the former Elle columnist has written about sex and relationships for years), questioning took a turn for the absurd.“Ms Carroll, what does this say: ‘What CAN be done about the penis? It gets large when you want it small, and stays small when you want it large,’” Habba asked, showing a 2013 tweet. “Those were your words, correct?”“Yes,” Carroll said.“And you posted them on a public social media account?”“Yes.”“And you left that on your Twitter account as we stand here today, correct?”Carroll answered in the affirmative.Pressed to explain the tweet, Carroll said: “It’s a philosophical question.”“Sometimes a woman doesn’t feel like making love and the man wants to,” Carroll explained, adding that sometimes it’s the reverse.“You discussed penises?” Habba said.Carroll said: “Yes.”
“Ms Carroll, what does this say: ‘What CAN be done about the penis? It gets large when you want it small, and stays small when you want it large,’” Habba asked, showing a 2013 tweet. “Those were your words, correct?”
“Yes,” Carroll said.
“And you posted them on a public social media account?”
“Yes.”
“And you left that on your Twitter account as we stand here today, correct?”
Carroll answered in the affirmative.
Pressed to explain the tweet, Carroll said: “It’s a philosophical question.”
“Sometimes a woman doesn’t feel like making love and the man wants to,” Carroll explained, adding that sometimes it’s the reverse.
“You discussed penises?” Habba said.
Carroll said: “Yes.”
some incredible lawyering by Habba, also when it was stated that Carroll now sleeps with a gun after the sexual assault by Trump, Habba asked if she has a licence for the gun.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 20 January 2024 06:44 (three months ago) link
uh
Carroll's lawyer: Your Honor, I belive we're done with our evidence - but give us the break first.Judge Kaplan: OK, ten minutes.Jury leaves.Carroll's lawyer: They intend to call Mr. Trump, then Ms. Martin.— Inner City Press (@innercitypress) January 25, 2024
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 25 January 2024 16:11 (two months ago) link
"Mr. Trump is precluded from offering any testimony, evidence or argument suggesting or implying that he did not sexually assault Ms. Carroll, that she fabricated her account of the assault, or that she had any motive to do so," Kaplan wrote in a ruling Jan. 9.Trump has given no indication he plans to stick to Kaplan's guidelines. Asked about his testimony before the trial started, he told reporters, “I’m going to explain I don’t know who the hell she is.”
Trump has given no indication he plans to stick to Kaplan's guidelines. Asked about his testimony before the trial started, he told reporters, “I’m going to explain I don’t know who the hell she is.”
― never trust a big book and a simile (Neanderthal), Thursday, 25 January 2024 16:27 (two months ago) link
lol Trump's defense is that Carroll tweeted a joke about penises
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Thursday, 25 January 2024 16:33 (two months ago) link
he's just a humongous piece of shit. who gets to try and further humiliate the person he raped and harassed and get cheered on for it.
― never trust a big book and a simile (Neanderthal), Thursday, 25 January 2024 16:43 (two months ago) link
He's the most humongous piece of shit.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 25 January 2024 16:46 (two months ago) link
Habba is also a piece of shit
― never trust a big book and a simile (Neanderthal), Thursday, 25 January 2024 16:47 (two months ago) link
A very interesting interview with the courtroom sketch artist from the current trial.
KABAS: The subject you're drawing is one of the most famous people in the world, and he stirs up a lot of emotions. What’s it like capturing someone who is such an emotional trigger for people?CORNELL: You know, his face is—everybody knows it. And he has about three expressions: One is just implacable. You don't know what the heck is going on. The other is angry, and the other is a smug smile.The thing that's most curious to me about him is that I think he's so in his own world that he doesn't have any receptiveness to other people in his face. It's mask-like. And it's obvious when he goes out to talk to the press after any hearings and he says always the same thing, almost like he's got a teleprompter in front of him, and nothing anybody says to him is of any interest to him. They can just clamor like a howling wind, but he's not going to respond to any of it. He's really unto himself.
CORNELL: You know, his face is—everybody knows it. And he has about three expressions: One is just implacable. You don't know what the heck is going on. The other is angry, and the other is a smug smile.
The thing that's most curious to me about him is that I think he's so in his own world that he doesn't have any receptiveness to other people in his face. It's mask-like. And it's obvious when he goes out to talk to the press after any hearings and he says always the same thing, almost like he's got a teleprompter in front of him, and nothing anybody says to him is of any interest to him. They can just clamor like a howling wind, but he's not going to respond to any of it. He's really unto himself.
It's not just about Trump, though. What she says about the business of being a freelance courtroom sketch artist (she gets hired by news channels; she doesn't work for the court) is fascinating too.
― Tahuti Watches L&O:SVU Reruns Without His Ape (unperson), Thursday, 25 January 2024 16:48 (two months ago) link
Kaplan is basically not-very-disguisedly pissed off at Trump's lawyers
― never trust a big book and a simile (Neanderthal), Thursday, 25 January 2024 16:48 (two months ago) link
Habba: They have opened the door on the Reid Hoffman issue - they asked about George Soros and the DNC - the door is open --Judge Kaplan: The door is closed. Let's bring in the jury.— Inner City Press (@innercitypress) January 25, 2024
― never trust a big book and a simile (Neanderthal), Thursday, 25 January 2024 16:49 (two months ago) link
Open the door, let 'em innn
― nashwan, Thursday, 25 January 2024 16:49 (two months ago) link
xxp She makes him, and most of the other participants, look fairly grotesque, if not monstrous.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 25 January 2024 16:50 (two months ago) link
Carroll's lawyer's name is Roberta Kaplan, the judge is Judge Kaplan.
$5 says Trump falsely claims they're married and judge biased after trial
― never trust a big book and a simile (Neanderthal), Thursday, 25 January 2024 16:50 (two months ago) link
Nah, he'll go big and say that they're the same person somehow.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 25 January 2024 16:54 (two months ago) link
prosecuted and judged by a woke hermaphrodite
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Thursday, 25 January 2024 16:56 (two months ago) link
Pounded in the butt by a Woke Judge's Doppelganger
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Thursday, 25 January 2024 17:02 (two months ago) link
Habba: Were you concerned for safety?Martin: On some levels. And for my daughter.Habba: Did you tell Ms. Carroll?Martin: Yes.Habba: How?Judge Kaplan: Is this a hypothetical question?Habba: Text, or in person - that was my questionJudge Kaplan: No it wasn't— Inner City Press (@innercitypress) January 25, 2024
― never trust a big book and a simile (Neanderthal), Thursday, 25 January 2024 17:02 (two months ago) link
hoping Kaplan closes procedures by saying "Damages are awarded in the amount of $x to the plaintiff. Habba...Nagila."
― never trust a big book and a simile (Neanderthal), Thursday, 25 January 2024 17:05 (two months ago) link
ladies and gentlemen, AN OPEN GOAL
Martin: After the NYT podcast there was interest.. There was a Harvey Weinstein sidebar... Not just E. Jean, but others as well.Habba: Did you think Ms. Carroll was enjoying the attention?Martin: At points.Habba: Ms. Martin, what does narcissism mean to you?— Inner City Press (@innercitypress) January 25, 2024
― never trust a big book and a simile (Neanderthal), Thursday, 25 January 2024 17:08 (two months ago) link
(last tweet share, I know ya'll can read the thread on your own or follow online, but that one was too rich)
― never trust a big book and a simile (Neanderthal), Thursday, 25 January 2024 17:09 (two months ago) link
this is a damages trial, yet she's trying to actually argue the merits of Trump's guilt, which has already been decided, and in fact, which has been given as a stipulation for why Trump can't talk about the merits of the case when he testifies. Habba seems to be trying to get the judge to vacate his previous decision, which.....LOL
― never trust a big book and a simile (Neanderthal), Thursday, 25 January 2024 17:16 (two months ago) link
"Habba is also a piece of shit"
She got in with Trump by grooming one of his employees who was sexually harassed by her boss and then after gaining her confidence + trust she tricked her into signing some bullshit waiver that meant she'd recieve next to nothing in damages and then she stopped talking to her. She's a hideous piece of shit.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 25 January 2024 17:30 (two months ago) link
sorry, one more...lmao
Judge Kaplan: Objection sustained.Habba: But you have shared Ms. Carroll's private messages?Martin: I really don't remember.Habba: Do you see that you sent this to--Judge Kaplan: Sustained. You are reading a document not in evidence— Inner City Press (@innercitypress) January 25, 2024
― never trust a big book and a simile (Neanderthal), Thursday, 25 January 2024 17:34 (two months ago) link
i have no clue what the angle is w/ this questioning
― Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Thursday, 25 January 2024 17:38 (two months ago) link
it's a performance for Trump and gives them something to complain about later
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Thursday, 25 January 2024 17:40 (two months ago) link
ostensibly it's to lower the damages by suggesting that Carroll is not really in emotional distress and is milking this for attention, but I doubt it worked.
Habba is objecting to every statement Carroll makes in cross now.
― never trust a big book and a simile (Neanderthal), Thursday, 25 January 2024 17:42 (two months ago) link
xp - otm, this way he can shriek later about how the CROOKED and CORRUPT judge LOSER in this RIGGED WITCH HUNT wouldn't allow his lawyers to present a defense, and the rubes will believe him
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 25 January 2024 17:43 (two months ago) link
thing is though the guilt has already been decided, this is degrees of damages, so that ship already sailed
― never trust a big book and a simile (Neanderthal), Thursday, 25 January 2024 17:44 (two months ago) link
yes, but they have plenty of extreme ignorant and gullible people ready to believe whatever they say
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Thursday, 25 January 2024 17:45 (two months ago) link
she has no joke objected to every statement Carroll's attorney has made, all have been overruled except one that was sidebarred and I don't know what was decided.
― never trust a big book and a simile (Neanderthal), Thursday, 25 January 2024 17:46 (two months ago) link
xpost I don't care about these people
ok? what's your point? there are many millions of them, they will do everything they can to get him back into power again, and constructing an alternate reality is essential to making that happen
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Thursday, 25 January 2024 17:49 (two months ago) link
Trump obviously cares more about his narrative than the court's judgement. Otherwise he could easily shut the fuck up.
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Thursday, 25 January 2024 17:51 (two months ago) link
I was just echoing Moodles point, facts won't stop him from screeching about how unfair it is. His lawyer knows her objections are bullshit, but she needs to help push that narrative of him being treated DEEPLY UNFAIRLY.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 25 January 2024 17:52 (two months ago) link
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Thursday, January 25, 2024 12:49 PM bookmarkflaglink
what's YOUR point? I'm not interested in riding this puke-encrusted ferris wheel again, it's been 7 years
― never trust a big book and a simile (Neanderthal), Thursday, 25 January 2024 17:53 (two months ago) link
his devoted followers didn't get him the election in 2016, duped Independents and Democrats did. and they fled in 2020. the people to target in 2024 are those same Independents to make sure they don't swing back to his side. nobody should give a fuck about his damn base
(not directed at you, Jon, just Moodles's point)
― never trust a big book and a simile (Neanderthal), Thursday, 25 January 2024 17:55 (two months ago) link
sometimes defeat is defeat
I think I was pretty clear: they do this stuff to prop up Trump and give them grievances to air out to the press and public. It's not going to do a single thing to help them in this trial, but not best way to look at these tactics is from a political POV rather than a legal one.
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Thursday, 25 January 2024 17:56 (two months ago) link
'tactics'
― Great-Tasting Burger Perceptions (Old Lunch), Thursday, 25 January 2024 17:57 (two months ago) link
I mean, that may well be true, I'm not trying to say this is a smart tactic or is going to win them the election, just that this is what they are attempting
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Thursday, 25 January 2024 17:58 (two months ago) link
and they fled in 2020.
Perhaps, but...
201662,985,106 votes
202074,224,319 votes
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Thursday, 25 January 2024 17:59 (two months ago) link
I, and the rest of this thread, know that, and we have known that for the last 7 years. this is why I'm talking about being bored of the discussion. we know there's an ulterior motive to everything he and his lawyers do. I don't see the need to bring it up. ever since he's been out of office (and hell, during his last few months in office), almost everything he's tried has failed.
however - it should be noted that his own lawyer can suffer professional consequences as many of his other lawyers have, and she should care about not doing things that could get her sanctioned.
― never trust a big book and a simile (Neanderthal), Thursday, 25 January 2024 17:59 (two months ago) link
2016
65,853,625 votes
2020
81,282,916 votes
why are we doing this
― never trust a big book and a simile (Neanderthal), Thursday, 25 January 2024 18:01 (two months ago) link
I don't disagree with you about the repetitiveness of it all Neando, but to be clear, I was responding to an actual question posed in this thread:
Wasn't implying that this was something to swing the election or mean anything outside his insular bubble, just explaining why this tactic is even in play. I think a direct answer to a direct question itt isn't unreasonable, despite how tired you personally may be of hearing about a particular angle.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 25 January 2024 18:02 (two months ago) link
This is the post I responding to:
― Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved)
apologies that you are bored with this discussion but time keeps marching forward
she might get sanctioned, she may not care, probably just angling for a spot in the cabinet or as a regular Fox commentator
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Thursday, 25 January 2024 18:02 (two months ago) link
xxpost Because you are claiming that the independents fled him in 2020. However his vote total grew by 12 million. If that's his base, it's pretty fucking huge.
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Thursday, 25 January 2024 18:03 (two months ago) link
xps - Trump comes from a world in which image and branding are paramount. It's how he made his money after he flamed out in the casino business. Expanding his brand was his original motivation for him to run for president. He was just copy-catting Herman Cain, the Godfather's Pizza guy. These days, he knows that his massive cult and its hold on the Republican party is what keeps him out of prison. So, yes, he cares more about his narrative than the court's judgement.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 25 January 2024 18:06 (two months ago) link
I refuse to believe Trump gained voters in 2020. My tinfoil hat conspiracy is that there was massive voting fraud in 2020...by the Republicans. Also based on the "always accuse your enemies of doing what you are doing" theory.
― B. Amato (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 25 January 2024 18:10 (two months ago) link
https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2021/06/30/behind-bidens-2020-victory/
25% of voters in 2020 didn't vote in 2016, and the majority of these 'new voters' favored Biden. the reason for the sharp increase in the number of voters, besides polarization leading to people "coming out of hibernation", was the ease of voting due to the prevalence of vote by mail being used much more than ever due to COVID. this is simple.
Biden gained 10% from Independent voters, whereas Trump got the same share he did in 2016. Trump's vote gains were almost 100% from people registered Republican - and actually, more Republican voters voted for Biden than voted for Hillary in 2016, by a small margin.
we've talked about this...at length...for years.
― never trust a big book and a simile (Neanderthal), Thursday, 25 January 2024 18:15 (two months ago) link
xxxpost
now can we focus on the trial...which is the actual thing happening today?
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, January 25, 2024 1:02 PM bookmarkflaglink
understood, and I respect where you're coming from but in this particular instance, I dont agree that it's really the strategy. the strategy is to lower the monetary damages. he wants to pay less money. yeah, there may be other ulterior motives, but that seems to be what she's getting at.
― never trust a big book and a simile (Neanderthal), Thursday, 25 January 2024 18:16 (two months ago) link
I'm guessing they are going to fail quite spectacularly with that as well
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Thursday, 25 January 2024 18:23 (two months ago) link
to beat a dead horse Neanderthal, getting 43% of independents in 2016 and 43% of independents in 2020 does not mean that Independents fled from you. It just means Biden was able to get many more than Hillary did. Unlikely to so this year.
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Thursday, 25 January 2024 18:28 (two months ago) link
Why is Biden less likely to do well with independents this year?
― default damager (lukas), Thursday, 25 January 2024 18:31 (two months ago) link
Because he's had historically low approval ratings for most of his term.
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Thursday, 25 January 2024 18:32 (two months ago) link
I know I always get scolded when I say this, but that is a big part of why I'm skeptical of the blind confidence some express in Biden cleanly trouncing Trump in the general. The historically low approval ratings, the media largely refusing to cover his clear wins and him continuing to fuck up in significant ways (Gaza)... I just don't see a clean, clear win without some drastic shift in the playing field.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 25 January 2024 18:37 (two months ago) link
One or more felony convictions might do that.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 25 January 2024 18:38 (two months ago) link
Fingers crossed.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 25 January 2024 18:40 (two months ago) link
Also, people are Feeling Better about the economy -- whatever it means (we've discussed it in the politics thread).
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 25 January 2024 18:41 (two months ago) link
I think the odds are in Biden's favor, but it will be painfully close either way, and there needs to be constant aggressive pushback to the false narratives that fuel Trump's campaign.
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Thursday, 25 January 2024 18:42 (two months ago) link
What Biden must worry about most:
(1) independents staying home (they're not going to vote for Trump) (2) a heart attack/embolism
I almost wrote "terrorist attack" but Biden's Senate career kowtowing to flag-waving will serve him in good stead.
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 25 January 2024 18:47 (two months ago) link
him continuing to fuck up in significant ways (Gaza)...
I feel like a huge asshole saying this, because I am obviously not on Israel's side, but I genuinely feel like "people who are not going to vote for Joe Biden because of Gaza" are...statistically insignificant. People say they're not going to vote for Biden because of Gaza, but they will; or people who were never going to vote at all say they're specifically not going to vote for Biden because of Gaza out of some combination of "maybe this will get people to pay attention to Gaza" and "look at me, I'm special"; but people Biden has actually lost because of this? You could fit them all in my apartment, and as fucked up as it is, he probably gains more votes from pro-Israel maniacs who might otherwise vote Republican.
― Tahuti Watches L&O:SVU Reruns Without His Ape (unperson), Thursday, 25 January 2024 18:49 (two months ago) link
I'd say Biden's gotta worry about sentiments in Michigan, but apparently his campaign announced yesterday they're going to live in the '20 battleground states.
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 25 January 2024 18:50 (two months ago) link
Every election will be painfully close from here on out. We as a nation have sorted ourselves with weirdly accurate precision, so as to keep things approximately tied from a Senate and Electoral College standpoint. Liberal voters concentrate in already blue cities, diluting their power. Rural voters stay put, and suburbs/exurbs gain - but it tends to be a wash.
So we're back where we started.
Here we go round again
― Wine not? (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 25 January 2024 18:52 (two months ago) link
good xp
― dead precedents (sleeve), Thursday, 25 January 2024 18:52 (two months ago) link
It's been thus since 2000, the Obama years excepted. I'm used to it.
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 25 January 2024 18:53 (two months ago) link
I totally understand the fatigue, I feel it too! Sadly, this shit never ends.
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Thursday, 25 January 2024 18:54 (two months ago) link
If you're queer, for example, the battle has never ended. So I see things differently.
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 25 January 2024 18:55 (two months ago) link
the blind confidence some express in Biden cleanly trouncing Trump in the general
where was this?
― il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Thursday, 25 January 2024 19:01 (two months ago) link
Several posters in the various politics threads over the past several months have quite clearly posted that they absolutely believe Biden will beat Trump in the general.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 25 January 2024 19:04 (two months ago) link
biden is fine in michigan, UAW just endorsed him and the poll that showed him trailing to trump has flaws
i think Biden will totally beat Trump
― a (waterface), Thursday, 25 January 2024 19:06 (two months ago) link
I'm confident Biden will beat Trump but it won't be a trouncing or, to quote Dubya, a thumpin'.
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 25 January 2024 19:07 (two months ago) link
Meantime, going great
Judge Kaplan: Let me hear from the other side.Roberta Kaplan: Just now Mr. Trump said under his breath he's going to say he never did it.Judge Kaplan: He will not testify about questions asked of him by reporters?Habba: No. If I may you Honor--Judge Kaplan: No— Inner City Press (@innercitypress) January 25, 2024
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 25 January 2024 19:07 (two months ago) link
A shellacking
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 25 January 2024 19:07 (two months ago) link
(2) a heart attack/embolism
Depends who has the heart attack/embolism
― impostor syndrome to the (expletive) max (stevie), Thursday, 25 January 2024 19:08 (two months ago) link
yah for sure i think it will be close too
― a (waterface), Thursday, 25 January 2024 19:09 (two months ago) link
Mm, I don't think it'll be THAT close. A Biden blowout, nah, but it'll be comfortably enough in the end.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 25 January 2024 19:09 (two months ago) link
Ned, have you been tampering with the ballot or
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 25 January 2024 19:10 (two months ago) link
Some very unhealthy people are also weirdly immortal
― Wine not? (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 25 January 2024 19:10 (two months ago) link
shh ned's cookin'
― impostor syndrome to the (expletive) max (stevie), Thursday, 25 January 2024 19:11 (two months ago) link
It's what I do, man.
Anyway, on the FAFO front:
Roberta Kaplan: He had an opportunity to participate in a trial--Judge Kaplan: And he lost. I will so instruct the jury. More than once.Trump says, "I wasn't at the trial, I never met this womanJudge Kaplan: Mr. Trump, keep your voice down.— Inner City Press (@innercitypress) January 25, 2024
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 25 January 2024 19:11 (two months ago) link
i mean i'm not super confident...about anything...but I dunno Trump-as-boogieman I just don't get it, he's very beatable
― Wine not? (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, January 25, 2024 1:10 PM (0 seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink
Harry Dean Stanton lived to 91
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 25 January 2024 19:11 (two months ago) link
I'm enjoying the trials but can't imagine they'll matter much in the election.
― default damager (lukas), Thursday, 25 January 2024 19:12 (two months ago) link
No way he's allowed to take the stand
― never trust a big book and a simile (Neanderthal), Thursday, 25 January 2024 19:12 (two months ago) link
Xpost they matter insofar as accountability and doing the right thing, esp this one
I mean when you take it all back to him being a Norman Vincent Peale drone when young, this all makes sense, everything about him -- he keeps power-of-positive-thinking his way out of everything whenever possible, and when it doesn't, he either doesn't get it or gets it but can't admit it. There's really not much more to him than that, it's everything else he's enabled along the way that's been the infuriation.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 25 January 2024 19:13 (two months ago) link
https://x.com/innercitypress/status/1750597398785855605?s=20
― never trust a big book and a simile (Neanderthal), Thursday, 25 January 2024 19:14 (two months ago) link
oh absolutely
― default damager (lukas), Thursday, 25 January 2024 19:20 (two months ago) link
I'm confident Biden will beat Trump, if only because it is much better for my mental health and it's not like I can fly the plane from my passenger seat. If it gets too close for comfort I can always shovel some money where I think it may do some good.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 25 January 2024 19:20 (two months ago) link
i don't want to underestimate Trump but i don't think the Biden campaign is ever going to do that, either.
― omar little, Thursday, 25 January 2024 19:23 (two months ago) link
If it gets too close for comfort I can always shovel some money where I think it may do some good.
I could use an espresso now.
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 25 January 2024 19:24 (two months ago) link
aw, go ahead and treat yourself!
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 25 January 2024 19:25 (two months ago) link
Anyway anticlimactic in the end; he tried one sneak-in of something and was shut down, a quick two question cross, one short followup and done. It's probably the least he's ever said in a legal context in his life and that amuses me greatly.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 25 January 2024 19:31 (two months ago) link
The whole point was just to get on the record that he's a little bitch, legally.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 25 January 2024 19:38 (two months ago) link
if/when Trump loses in '24, he'll be back in '28
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 25 January 2024 19:48 (two months ago) link
when he will be 82
― a (waterface), Thursday, 25 January 2024 19:49 (two months ago) link
and dead
― dead precedents (sleeve), Thursday, 25 January 2024 19:49 (two months ago) link
trump himself may be dead, but he'll still be railing against RINO's and the Deep State and also low-pressure shower heads
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 25 January 2024 19:51 (two months ago) link
I'm sure that wasn't he meant when he tweeted this video out, but it seems to apply to what we can expect:
pic.twitter.com/JDS4zUXXJG— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) June 21, 2019
― badpee pooper (Eric H.), Thursday, 25 January 2024 19:52 (two months ago) link
At least it'll keep ILE hummin'.
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 25 January 2024 19:52 (two months ago) link
Has he tried to sell a Trump coffin yet? He's already taken a lot of lessons from Kiss, might as well go all in.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 25 January 2024 19:53 (two months ago) link
Sirhan Sirhan should be released on humanitarian grounds, as long as he agrees to one more mission
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 25 January 2024 19:56 (two months ago) link
I'm sure they'll sell people the opportunity to cut off a body part and have it buried in Trump's coffin.
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Thursday, 25 January 2024 20:08 (two months ago) link
Trump is privately pressuring GOP to reject Ukraine/border deal to deny Biden a win.“Trump wants them to kill it because he doesn’t want Biden to have a victory. He told them he will fix the border when he is president,” per a source close to the talks https://t.co/fJHy5lOVeI— Igor Bobic (@igorbobic) January 25, 2024
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 25 January 2024 21:05 (two months ago) link
I know the GOP is not serious about border security - it's really the only issue they have that has any traction with the voters anymore - so this is totally unsurprising
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 25 January 2024 21:08 (two months ago) link
Thank God Biden's border thing is dead. We should all be rejoicing here. It was awful.
― B. Amato (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 25 January 2024 21:43 (two months ago) link
yeah and I think McConnell and some of the old guard do want to fund Ukraine all the same... if this is killed, they'll probably find a way to send them some munitions
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 25 January 2024 21:46 (two months ago) link
I know we've kind of entered some uncharted waters anyway and the end result here is fine since Biden's border thing wasn't great anyway, but my god, I can't help but be struck by how much sway Trump still manages when he doesn't even hold any office.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 25 January 2024 21:51 (two months ago) link
He's not asking the GOP to do what most in the party wouldn't try to do anyway
― badpee pooper (Eric H.), Thursday, 25 January 2024 21:53 (two months ago) link
It's really something to take a few steps back and imagine these career politicians who have in many cases spent decades playing the game to accrue power and influence and who now just bend in whatever direction some dough-brained reality tv star happens to aimlessly hurl his feces.
― Great-Tasting Burger Perceptions (Old Lunch), Thursday, 25 January 2024 21:57 (two months ago) link
it's not Mitch's party anymore, that's for sure... and Johnson takes orders directly from the mango mussolini
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 25 January 2024 22:00 (two months ago) link
I think Eric H. is right: the Trump shit is basically what the MAGAnumnuts wanted anyway. He just said the quiet part out loud, hence his appeal to those who wish they could do the same.
― Wine not? (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 25 January 2024 22:23 (two months ago) link
Well, yeah, I get that the interests are aligned... but more to OL's point, it's hard to imagine them allowing it to be made so blindingly obvious in the public eye that they are taking orders from him. Just seems like it'd be embarrassing on some level to a politicians' ego, even if they were getting what they wanted, to have to do a whole dog and pony show along with it about how they sure are making the unelected orange dipshit happy.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 25 January 2024 22:27 (two months ago) link
I am sure that most of them wish he would just die and let them get back to manipulating his mouth-breathing followers.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 25 January 2024 22:31 (two months ago) link
prepare for unimaginable levels of pettiness when he wins...
― StanM, Thursday, 25 January 2024 22:37 (two months ago) link
I'm curious who would make the candidate pool for VP but wouldn't be obviously rooting or even plotting for him to keel over.
― Philip Nunez, Thursday, 25 January 2024 22:38 (two months ago) link
https://www.dailydot.com/wp-content/uploads/aef/87/6220c8c9ccd6aa6da1989b406dc13ff7.jpg
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 25 January 2024 22:40 (two months ago) link
Or loses... Floridian Dems are bracing for a grouchy loser DeSantis back in the capitol
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 25 January 2024 22:41 (two months ago) link
Someone needs to make a "Hitler in the conference room" clip for DeSantis.
― nickn, Thursday, 25 January 2024 23:02 (two months ago) link
Just load his office with pudding cups, there's only so much damage he can do with his fingers perpetually shoved up his mouth.
― birdistheword, Thursday, 25 January 2024 23:11 (two months ago) link
I know we've already beaten this to death, but this is a solid take by Dahlia Lithwick on today's events in the defamation trial.
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2024/01/trump-three-minutes-stand-point-explained.html
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Friday, 26 January 2024 01:11 (two months ago) link
So would throwing Trump out of the trial early have been better? If not, we're just in "Trump put on a performance for his base" territory, right? The real question is whether he pays out to Carroll.
― default damager (lukas), Friday, 26 January 2024 01:25 (two months ago) link
I think he's going to pay out bigly
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Friday, 26 January 2024 01:32 (two months ago) link
what's the largest amount the jury could award, does anyone know?
― dead precedents (sleeve), Friday, 26 January 2024 01:33 (two months ago) link
750 hamberders
― StanM, Friday, 26 January 2024 01:47 (two months ago) link
Frustrating how in the Alex Jones and Giuliani trials, the minute these guys get got and whalloped with punitive damages, all of a sudden they go bankrupt and their millions disappear. Hope Carroll gets all Trump's cash and his gold toilet, but if he plays the suddenly-bankrupt game himself, maybe that'll bruise his image in the eyes of his scumbag followers somehow? I'm guessing not, but.
Or maybe the shithead will keel over and die.
― impostor syndrome to the (expletive) max (stevie), Friday, 26 January 2024 09:07 (two months ago) link
there should be a 1 billion dollar bill with his face on it, especially since he'll never own it in person
― StanM, Friday, 26 January 2024 09:34 (two months ago) link
Let's not forget he's likely on point to pay even that much more in the civil fraud suit.
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Friday, 26 January 2024 13:54 (two months ago) link
This is pretty funny — they're using his ridiculously inflated self-declared net worth to argue for high punitive damages.
The more important testimony from Trump that the jury saw Thursday was from his April 2023 deposition in the New York Attorney General’s fraud case. At one point, Trump, while discussing the value of his properties, estimated that his brand alone is worth “maybe $10 billion.” When Trump bragged about his billions in assets, he probably wasn’t anticipating that it would be used against him in the defamation case to argue for an enormous punitive damages award. But Carroll’s lawyers can put it to that use, and because deposition testimony is given under oath, there’s nothing Trump can do now to undercut it without exposing himself to the risk of perjury. Sometimes, the chickens really do come home to roost.
https://joycevance.substack.com/p/trump-testifies
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Friday, 26 January 2024 15:06 (two months ago) link
lololol excellent
― dead precedents (sleeve), Friday, 26 January 2024 15:07 (two months ago) link
news says that trump stomped out of the courtroom during closing arguments.
― scott seward, Friday, 26 January 2024 15:11 (two months ago) link
he probably stomped into the courtroom, too.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 26 January 2024 15:21 (two months ago) link
Some folks are born silver spoon in handLord, don't they help themselvesBut when the taxman come to the doorThe house looks like a rummage sale
― Wine not? (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 26 January 2024 15:28 (two months ago) link
That is a truly beautiful self-own.
Now let's see how he inevitably manages to wriggle out of this one.
― Great-Tasting Burger Perceptions (Old Lunch), Friday, 26 January 2024 15:38 (two months ago) link
Frustrating how in the Alex Jones and Giuliani trials, the minute these guys get got and whalloped with punitive damages, all of a sudden they go bankrupt and their millions disappear. Hope Carroll gets all Trump's cash and his gold toilet, but if he plays the suddenly-bankrupt game himself, maybe that'll bruise his image in the eyes of his scumbag followers somehow? I'm guessing not, but.Or maybe the shithead will keel over and die.
― B. Amato (Boring, Maryland), Friday, 26 January 2024 15:38 (two months ago) link
And yet, I don't think Jones has paid anything yet, right?
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 26 January 2024 16:15 (two months ago) link
Dunno, but, Trump already had to put $5M in escrow while he appeals the prior Carroll defamation case: https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/23/politics/trump-e-jean-carroll-5-5-million/index.html
Saw speculation that this could be in appeals for a very long time.
― default damager (lukas), Friday, 26 January 2024 16:24 (two months ago) link
was wondering about the appeal issue
― dead precedents (sleeve), Friday, 26 January 2024 16:37 (two months ago) link
Eternal return
Judge Kaplan: Move onto another topicHabba: Under the First Amendment you have a right to speak -Roberta Kaplan: Objection!Judge Kaplan: SustainedHabba: You've heard the objections, you've heard me being told to sit downRobert Kaplan: ObjectionJudge: Move on— Inner City Press (@innercitypress) January 26, 2024
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 26 January 2024 17:07 (two months ago) link
"Roberta and the Judge," Tuesdays this fall on NBC!
― badpee pooper (Eric H.), Friday, 26 January 2024 17:16 (two months ago) link
“President Trump has no more control over the thoughts and feelings of social media users than he does the weather,” Habba says.
― scott seward, Friday, 26 January 2024 17:18 (two months ago) link
xpost Throw in an orangutan and I'd totally wat... oh, wait.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 26 January 2024 17:20 (two months ago) link
I like this one, the timing is impeccable:
Judge Kaplan: She showed you only five tweets-Habba: Objection!Judge Kaplan: Only one lawyer. Who is it?Habba: Michael.Michael Madaio: Objection.Judge Kaplan: Overruled.— Inner City Press (@innercitypress) January 26, 2024
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 26 January 2024 17:23 (two months ago) link
Carroll lawyer Shawn Crowley: "One of the questions you have to decide is whether he acted with malice. What could be more on-brand for Donald Trump than malice?"— erica orden (@eorden) January 26, 2024
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 26 January 2024 17:27 (two months ago) link
https://img.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeed-static/static/2020-02/1/17/asset/ff90b1278a8b/sub-buzz-346-1580578270-8.png?downsize=700%3A%2A&output-quality=auto&output-format=auto
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 26 January 2024 17:44 (two months ago) link
I know of one way he could make around half of social media users feel very happy
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Friday, 26 January 2024 17:56 (two months ago) link
"Deliberations have begun in Carroll v. Trump, starting at 1:40 p.m. EST. "
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 26 January 2024 18:47 (two months ago) link
Over and over this week, Trump’s lawyers argued that E. Jean Carroll was not sexually assaulted or defamed by their client, when in fact Trump was found liable for both offenses in court already. Why no one on the defense team — including Trump himself — has not been found in direct criminal contempt of court is indicative of our judicial system and its different rules for the rich and powerful.
― TO BE A JAZZ SINGER YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO SCAT (Jazzbo), Friday, 26 January 2024 19:21 (two months ago) link
Kaplan pretty much shut that down every time, strictly limited the questions his lawyers could ask Trump, etc. I've seen a couple of posts from lawyers who've worked these contexts basically saying Kaplan would be primarily interested in getting the trial done first (especially since Trump etc would love there to be an obvious mistrial happening -- it's what they kept trying with Engoron), then if he felt it warranted could happily sanction the hell out of his lawyers after.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 26 January 2024 19:23 (two months ago) link
I'm on the caseCan't be fooledAny objectionIs overruled
Yes, I'm the ArbiterAnd I know best
He's impartialDon't push himHe's unimpressed
― never trust a big book and a simile (Neanderthal), Friday, 26 January 2024 19:41 (two months ago) link
the clip from the deposition where he's shown the photo of Jean Carroll, a woman he said he couldn't have assaulted because she's "not his type", and then proceeds to misindentify her as his second wife, while also being unable to recognize his first wife in the photo, is still I think one of the most truly insane Trump moments ever. the man's brain does not work
― frogbs, Friday, 26 January 2024 21:17 (two months ago) link
Sounds like we have a verdict.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 26 January 2024 21:28 (two months ago) link
at what point does one run out of appeals and have to cough up?
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 26 January 2024 21:35 (two months ago) link
beginning the countdown to when Trump gets in front of a dozen news cameras and defames Carroll yet again because he knows no other way to react
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 26 January 2024 21:36 (two months ago) link
Andy (clerk): 7.1 million... 11 million... punitives: $65 million— Inner City Press (@innercitypress) January 26, 2024
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 26 January 2024 21:42 (two months ago) link
Verdict in Carroll v. TrumpJury says Donald Trump must pay E. Jean Carroll:COMPENSATORY:Other than reputation repair program: $7.3MReputation repair program: $11MPUNITIVE: $65MTOTAL: $83.3M— erica orden (@eorden) January 26, 2024
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 26 January 2024 21:43 (two months ago) link
pay up, Fucker
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Friday, 26 January 2024 21:43 (two months ago) link
It's OK, his company is sitting on $400 million in cash and is worth $10 billion.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 26 January 2024 21:43 (two months ago) link
She should offer to accept the deed to Trump Tower in lieu of cash, like that woman who won the Klan's headquarters in court some years ago.
― Tahuti Watches L&O:SVU Reruns Without His Ape (unperson), Friday, 26 January 2024 21:44 (two months ago) link
I think Trump would rather have his dick cut off than give up Trump Tower.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 26 January 2024 21:44 (two months ago) link
Well, it's like LBJ's line about calling his opponent a pigfucker: "Let's make the son of a bitch deny it."
― Tahuti Watches L&O:SVU Reruns Without His Ape (unperson), Friday, 26 January 2024 21:45 (two months ago) link
is that more or less than what was expected? seems like an awful lot to me
― frogbs, Friday, 26 January 2024 21:46 (two months ago) link
Yeah, that's a shitload of money lol
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 26 January 2024 21:47 (two months ago) link
It's less than the Rudy decision, and less than the Alex Jones, fwiw, but it's still a lot!
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 26 January 2024 21:47 (two months ago) link
difference being that Trump is far more likely to actually have that kind of money
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Friday, 26 January 2024 21:49 (two months ago) link
Context/comparison:
The more than $83 million in combined damages far exceeds the amount Donald Trump was ordered to pay last year when a jury found for E. Jean Carroll. In that case, the jury found that he sexually assaulted her and defamed her, and they awarded her a combined $5 million.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 26 January 2024 21:51 (two months ago) link
think of how many NFTs he's gonna have to sell to recoup that
― frogbs, Friday, 26 January 2024 21:51 (two months ago) link
Whip-round from the adherents ought to cover it, or at least some of it. A little of it anyway.
― fourth world problems (Matt #2), Friday, 26 January 2024 21:51 (two months ago) link
File under understatement:
Judge Kaplan said to the anonymous jury that while they are now free to speak publicly, he didn’t advise it. “My advice to you is that you never disclose that you were on this jury and I wont say anything more about it.”
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 26 January 2024 21:52 (two months ago) link
The sad/tragic/funny thing is, it seems impossible that Trump will be able to avoid defaming her *again*. He probably barely makes it a day.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 26 January 2024 21:53 (two months ago) link
I dunno, Judge Kaplan, putting oneself in a position where Donald Trump might (and most likely will) defame you is starting to seem like a pretty sweet deal.
― Great-Tasting Burger Perceptions (Old Lunch), Friday, 26 January 2024 21:54 (two months ago) link
Can a judge sue for defamation?
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 26 January 2024 21:56 (two months ago) link
He rails against deep state RINOs, which is exactly what I am - I plan to sue as well
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 26 January 2024 21:59 (two months ago) link
in fairness (?????????) to the rudy verdict there were two plaintiffs
― Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Friday, 26 January 2024 21:59 (two months ago) link
Or more likely he hung himself on his own rope there. Someone asked Ken White/Popehat about the possibility of an appeal and reduction on the punitive damages and his understated snark response:
Low. That’s a reasonable multiplier of actual to punitive and consistent with his stated wealth.
The kicker is 'stated wealth' because Carroll's legal team played a clip of a formal deposition where he claimed he was worth $10 billion. So if he suddenly pleads poverty as a reduce to reduce, people get to go 'wow so about this perjury you committed' and then things get even more fun for him. (Trump's team very much saw this possibility coming and tried to work against it today, to no avail.)
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 26 January 2024 22:02 (two months ago) link
REASON to reduce, etc.
All I know is he should double the pay of this legal team and bring them in for every single trial. If not to actually defend him then at least to entertain us all. But they should probably defend him, too.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 26 January 2024 22:06 (two months ago) link
he's probably not going to pay his lawyer bills since they lost
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 26 January 2024 22:10 (two months ago) link
I hope they got yuge retainers up front.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 26 January 2024 22:11 (two months ago) link
Actually, I don't. Any lawyer who represents Trump gets whatever s/he deserves, which is nothing good.
Sometimes covid.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 26 January 2024 22:15 (two months ago) link
So has he posted to Truth Social yet?
― default damager (lukas), Friday, 26 January 2024 22:37 (two months ago) link
― Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Friday, 26 January 2024 22:39 (two months ago) link
or perhaps not. there's a mailer going around
― Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Friday, 26 January 2024 22:41 (two months ago) link
https://bsky.app/profile/matthewkeys.net/post/3kjw4b4g6yw2o
Not one direct mention of Carroll or his usual denials. I suspect he/whoever runs the account has clocked -- for now, let's see how long that lasts -- that if he goes down that road again she and her team can easily go 'hey, another defamation trial? don't mind if we do' and then he has to deal with two verdicts already assessed.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 26 January 2024 22:43 (two months ago) link
Even good ol' Andy McCarthy on Fox knows this much per WaPo:
Today’s ruling may not be the end of the story, according to Andy McCarthy, a former assistant U.S. attorney in the Southern District.“In theory, if (Donald Trump) continues to repeat what he said, she can continue to sue him, and seek more millions (in) damages,” McCarthy said on Fox News.
“In theory, if (Donald Trump) continues to repeat what he said, she can continue to sue him, and seek more millions (in) damages,” McCarthy said on Fox News.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 26 January 2024 22:44 (two months ago) link
Couple of separate posts on Bsky to further illustrate the current fun for him:
Surety bonds on appeal in the 2nd Circuit are at the district court's discretion. I'm guessing Judge Kaplan will require a bond for 100% of the verdict. Justice Engoron is likely to issue a ~$400 million fine next week; in state court appeal bonds MUST be for 100% plus statutory 9% interest.Appeal bonds are generally 100% collateralized; it's conceivable some bank could offer Trump an irrevocable letter of credit, but a half- billion dollars is a lot.
Appeal bonds are generally 100% collateralized; it's conceivable some bank could offer Trump an irrevocable letter of credit, but a half- billion dollars is a lot.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 26 January 2024 22:46 (two months ago) link
Gonna be a long weekend for somebody.
― Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 26 January 2024 22:50 (two months ago) link
I vote "dud"
― alpine static, Friday, 26 January 2024 22:56 (two months ago) link
sorry...
Someone else said on Bluesky
He can appeal without putting up the $83M BUTIf he does not put up the $, Carroll can begin executing the $83m judgment 30 days from now in all fifty states, seizing his cash & personal property and placing liens on his real estate.
BUT
If he does not put up the $, Carroll can begin executing the $83m judgment 30 days from now in all fifty states, seizing his cash & personal property and placing liens on his real estate.
― Tahuti Watches L&O:SVU Reruns Without His Ape (unperson), Friday, 26 January 2024 22:59 (two months ago) link
Even more fun!
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 26 January 2024 23:01 (two months ago) link
A dark weekend of the soul, you might say
― Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 26 January 2024 23:02 (two months ago) link
Good time to take up alcohol
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 26 January 2024 23:02 (two months ago) link
Unperson's last quote there is from Mitchell Epner, solid guy in my experience and great legal commentator (and a lawyer himself etc), and he also posted this:
Right now, FPOTUS is likely in a rage towards his former attorney Joe Tacopina, who made the wise decision to keep Trump off the stand in the 1st Carroll v. Trump trial. Trump appears to have convinced himself that he would have won that case, if he testified and collateral estoppel is unfair.
Get ready for the rants!
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 26 January 2024 23:06 (two months ago) link
Something tells me the rubes are about the get soaked again
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Friday, 26 January 2024 23:20 (two months ago) link
Truly he is a fisher of men.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 26 January 2024 23:29 (two months ago) link
delightful Epner quotes there, thank u both
― dead precedents (sleeve), Friday, 26 January 2024 23:38 (two months ago) link
“Absolutely ridiculous! I fully disagree with both verdicts, and will be appealing this whole Biden Directed Witch Hunt focused on me and the Republican Party,” Trump wrote on Truth Social. “Our Legal System is out of control, and being used as a Political Weapon.”
“They have taken away all First Amendment Rights,” he added. “THIS IS NOT AMERICA!”
THANKS BIDEN
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 26 January 2024 23:46 (two months ago) link
'our legal system is out of control' says the most litigious property developer in history
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 26 January 2024 23:47 (two months ago) link
He'll raise money off this but will he raise $83M?
― default damager (lukas), Friday, 26 January 2024 23:58 (two months ago) link
($83M more than he would have raised otherwise, I mean)
― default damager (lukas), Friday, 26 January 2024 23:59 (two months ago) link
they were floating an idea in Florida to use taxpayer dollars to cover his legal fees - but DeSantis nixed itJust insane that would be even be discussed
― Andy the Grasshopper, Saturday, 27 January 2024 00:06 (two months ago) link
Dud all you want, but this outcome is pretty classic Trump.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 27 January 2024 00:08 (two months ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsMUxdZGgWI
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 27 January 2024 00:14 (two months ago) link
Just hoping & praying that his seething, unrelenting anger is helping to shorten his lifespan
― Andy the Grasshopper, Saturday, 27 January 2024 00:16 (two months ago) link
^ 100000%
― the body of a spider... (scampering alpaca), Saturday, 27 January 2024 00:54 (two months ago) link
Dud for not stomping out and muttering this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxFQYw_MmAA
― nashwan, Saturday, 27 January 2024 01:04 (two months ago) link
He's going to die on the toilet while we sleep tonight
(Mods plz delete if I'm wrong)
― never trust a big book and a simile (Neanderthal), Saturday, 27 January 2024 02:06 (two months ago) link
on the toilet the golden toilet the donald dies toniiiight
― a single gunshot and polite applause (Hunt3r), Saturday, 27 January 2024 02:10 (two months ago) link
― impostor syndrome to the (expletive) max (stevie), Saturday, 27 January 2024 13:24 (two months ago) link
https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:6c45z5sf3rhgrupy26iqndmc/bafkreiezsxnf27xpxvqdqbb2d6g56tjdgp4uldcvgdaclnmtj7u3fsybky@jpeg
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 27 January 2024 13:32 (two months ago) link
trump sucks. i hate trump.
― scott seward, Saturday, 27 January 2024 15:07 (two months ago) link
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 27 January 2024 15:08 (two months ago) link
post is still there, guess he died
― soup of magpies (geoffreyess), Saturday, 27 January 2024 17:18 (two months ago) link
what a way to find out
― soup of magpies (geoffreyess), Saturday, 27 January 2024 17:19 (two months ago) link
yayyyyyy!
― never trust a big book and a simile (Neanderthal), Saturday, 27 January 2024 17:23 (two months ago) link
https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2024/01/24/gettyimages-1944807446-33f657b924375b3f8de8f3ddc342961b9b5ca4a7-s800-c85.jpg
I never paid much attention to the "Trump has tiny hands" thing before, always thought it was just a way to needle him, until I saw this pic from Monday. Seriously tiny hands!
― that's when I reach for my copy of Revolver (WmC), Saturday, 27 January 2024 18:52 (two months ago) link
not looking like a young 77 there.
― scott seward, Saturday, 27 January 2024 19:04 (two months ago) link
otoh he does look like a man who fell under 91 indictments and has five teams of lawyers he consults with multiple times a day trying to figure out how he might wriggle out of all of them. and it's not looking so good.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Saturday, 27 January 2024 19:49 (two months ago) link
Looking like Tom Wilkinson in Michael Clayton.
― Tahuti Watches L&O:SVU Reruns Without His Ape (unperson), Saturday, 27 January 2024 19:50 (two months ago) link
five teams of lawyers
He looks like a man proud of having five fingers.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 27 January 2024 19:50 (two months ago) link
xpost Too bad he doesn't look like Tom Wilkinson as he is today. Maybe he does.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 27 January 2024 19:51 (two months ago) link
Mitchell Epner has posted a long newsletter answering frequently asked questions about the Carroll verdict. Here is the most interesting stuff:
Can Donald Trump Delay Payment Of The $83.3 Million During An Appeal?Yes, but only if he pays about $92 million into the Court in the next 30 days.Under Federal Rule of Civil Procedure 62, E. Jean Carroll is barred from trying to execute on the $83.3 million verdict for 30 days after the judgment is entered. During that time, Donald Trump can (a) file a notice of appeal and (b) seek to have the trial court stay execution of the judgment by “providing” (depositing) “a bond or other security.” In the SDNY, the Court typically requires deposit of 110% of the amount of the verdict.For example, when Donald Trump appealed the $5 million verdict in 2023, he had to deposit $5.5 million into the court.The purpose of the deposit is to take “credit risk” away from the appeal. When the money is deposited to the Court, it leaves the control of the defendant. Whoever wins the appeal will get the money. If E. Jean Carroll prevails on appeal, the Court would pay the money directly to her. If Trump were to prevail on appeal, the Court would return the money to him.If Trump does not post the $92 million, he could still pursue an appeal, but that would not delay E. Jean Carroll from enforcing the judgment during the appeal. She could seize whatever funds are in any of Donald Trump’s bank accounts in any of the fifty states. She could also seize his personal property. She would have the assistance of county sheriffs, who would be required to seize his cars, paintings, etc and sell them at auction. In addition, she could place liens on any of his real estate. Most defendants prefer to post the security, rather than have their property seized.How Long Will An Appeal Take?Ordinarily, an appeal to the Second Circuit Court of Appeals would take about 18 months. Here, it is likely that the appeal of the $83.3 million 2024 verdict will be consolidated with Trump’s earlier appeal of the $5 million 2023 verdict. Trump filed his opening brief in November 2023.Although it is possible that the Second Circuit will wait until after Election Day (November 5), in an ordinary case I would not be surprised if the Second Circuit issues its decision by October 2024.
Yes, but only if he pays about $92 million into the Court in the next 30 days.
Under Federal Rule of Civil Procedure 62, E. Jean Carroll is barred from trying to execute on the $83.3 million verdict for 30 days after the judgment is entered. During that time, Donald Trump can (a) file a notice of appeal and (b) seek to have the trial court stay execution of the judgment by “providing” (depositing) “a bond or other security.” In the SDNY, the Court typically requires deposit of 110% of the amount of the verdict.
For example, when Donald Trump appealed the $5 million verdict in 2023, he had to deposit $5.5 million into the court.
The purpose of the deposit is to take “credit risk” away from the appeal. When the money is deposited to the Court, it leaves the control of the defendant. Whoever wins the appeal will get the money. If E. Jean Carroll prevails on appeal, the Court would pay the money directly to her. If Trump were to prevail on appeal, the Court would return the money to him.
If Trump does not post the $92 million, he could still pursue an appeal, but that would not delay E. Jean Carroll from enforcing the judgment during the appeal. She could seize whatever funds are in any of Donald Trump’s bank accounts in any of the fifty states. She could also seize his personal property. She would have the assistance of county sheriffs, who would be required to seize his cars, paintings, etc and sell them at auction. In addition, she could place liens on any of his real estate. Most defendants prefer to post the security, rather than have their property seized.
How Long Will An Appeal Take?
Ordinarily, an appeal to the Second Circuit Court of Appeals would take about 18 months. Here, it is likely that the appeal of the $83.3 million 2024 verdict will be consolidated with Trump’s earlier appeal of the $5 million 2023 verdict. Trump filed his opening brief in November 2023.
Although it is possible that the Second Circuit will wait until after Election Day (November 5), in an ordinary case I would not be surprised if the Second Circuit issues its decision by October 2024.
― Tahuti Watches L&O:SVU Reruns Without His Ape (unperson), Saturday, 27 January 2024 23:24 (two months ago) link
Judge in real estate trial says damages verdict likely by Wednesday. Meanwhile, the person appointed to monitor Trump org sent a letter to the judge noting, despite cooperation, a bunch of omissions and inconsistencies. For example:
Of particular note, I discussed the springing loan previously disclosed as being between Donald J. Trump individually and Chicago Unit Acquisitions (an entity related to the Trump Chicago Tower) with the Trump Organization several times. When I inquired about this loan, I was informed that there are no loan agreements that memorialize the loan, but that it was a loan that was believed to be between Donald J. Trump, individually, and Chicago Unit Acquisition for $48 million. However, in recent discussions with the Trump Organization, it indicated that it has determined that this loan never existed - and thus that it would be removed from any upcoming forms submitted to the Office of Government Ethics and would also be removed from subsequent versions of the MAML.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 27 January 2024 23:28 (two months ago) link
it has determined that this loan never existed
hmmm. it's like that version of three card monte where a pea disappears under one of three shells, only in this case it's shell companies. maybe they should consult the Trump Organization's CFO, Allen Weisselberg. They should be able to find him since he was just sentenced to 5 months in jail.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Saturday, 27 January 2024 23:49 (two months ago) link
Prediction: he will pay exactly nothing to anyone (including and especially his own lawyers).
Because *wriggle*.
Because there is always another appeal, always another court, always anither judge, always an other angle, always an other #wriggle.
I'm going to sleep in a bit. Wake me up if anything changes.
Just one more thing before I retire: when I am accused of a crime (which seems likely, as i am a notorious miscreant) can I get maybe 43% of the impunity this guy gets on the regular?
― Washington Post Malone (Ye Mad Puffin), Sunday, 28 January 2024 00:23 (two months ago) link
I know this show has gone on too long, but I really think they are gonna wrap it up this season
― dead precedents (sleeve), Sunday, 28 January 2024 00:30 (two months ago) link
Can Carroll choose which of his assets to seize, in the unlikely event he actually has to pay anything? i.e. could she demand Mar-a-Lago?
― fourth world problems (Matt #2), Sunday, 28 January 2024 00:44 (two months ago) link
you all saying he's not going to pay anything, did you miss the part in the post above where it says to stay execution of the judgment after 30 days, he has to pay the court 92 million, and if he doesn't, she can begin collecting immediately with the assistance of sheriffs even if he decides to file an appeal? unless all civil servants conspire to ignore the law simultaneously...he's quite literally going to be paying money.
and if he pays the court that 92 million, he's without it until his appeal is resolved, and only gets it back if he wins. I know it's fun to be cynical and constantly say "eh, it doesn't matter" whenever Trump has anything happen to him, but the instinct to just blurt that out right after the second of two trials where a rape victim put herself in harm's way at great cost to her mental health and safety to ensure Trump got held accountable...it doesn't come across very well.
― never trust a big book and a simile (Neanderthal), Sunday, 28 January 2024 01:20 (two months ago) link
(there's no way he doesn't pay the court 92 million...he isn't going to want to deal with attempts at seizures)
thank you xp
― dead precedents (sleeve), Sunday, 28 January 2024 01:26 (two months ago) link
Okay I will believe it when I see it actually happen. Yes I understand the legal language, but #wriggle.
Tell me when the wire transfer has gone through. I've just heard too many OMG TRUMP IS GONNA SUFFER stories.
― Washington Post Malone (Ye Mad Puffin), Sunday, 28 January 2024 01:30 (two months ago) link
sadly we can't tag you in these threads, so you'll just have to keep up
― dead precedents (sleeve), Sunday, 28 January 2024 01:33 (two months ago) link
I've just heard too many OMG TRUMP IS GONNA SUFFER stories.
Actual suffering doesn't seem very likely, apart from the self-inflicted stress experienced by a person of his wealth and temperament who must part with tens of millions without getting back anything tangible. In addition to the two judgments against him he'll also owe his lawyers millions more. I'm sure his inclination will be to complain that they don't deserve one cent of compensation because they lost his case, thereby proving their utter incompetence. Then he'll make them sue him to force him to pay their fees. That will assuage his suffering somewhat.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Sunday, 28 January 2024 01:42 (two months ago) link
I mean, Trump already put $5.5M in escrow for the other defamation case.
― default damager (lukas), Sunday, 28 January 2024 01:57 (two months ago) link
not to be a naysayer, and i do find it somewhat heartening that trump finally will face a consequence for anything that he has ever done, and i do believe that he will pay the money, one way or another, someday, and that it's a lot of money even for trump.
but is there any reason that jared can't take the 2 billion that he got from the saudis while trump looked the other way, divide the 2 billion stack into 20 smaller stacks of 100 million dollars each, and then give trump 1 stack of 100 million dollars to cover the whole thing?
― z_tbd, Monday, 29 January 2024 18:18 (two months ago) link
He didn't get two billion from the Saudis. He got control of two billion to invest on their behalf, from which he can charge them some small percentage as a management fee.
― the absence of bikes (f. hazel), Monday, 29 January 2024 18:22 (two months ago) link
lol damn jared got ripped off!
well, maybe there is someone else out there with over $100 million who wouldn't mind a fascist owing them a favor
― z_tbd, Monday, 29 January 2024 18:29 (two months ago) link
Yeah because if there’s one thing Donald Trump is particularly well-known for, it’s making good on his debts
― the new drip king (DJP), Monday, 29 January 2024 18:44 (two months ago) link
Just think what he owes the White House plumber alone.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 29 January 2024 18:45 (two months ago) link
Something I keep having to remind myself about with respect to this situation (because I am very much a not-smart about money, among many many other things) is the whole concept of liquidity. Trump's self-valuation is wildly and hilariously overblown, but how much of his actual wealth can even be put towards this use? Like, is he going to start having to sell off major assets to cover this bill? Is there a chance that Trump Tower or Mar a Lago wind up on the auction block?
I also just keep thinking about how this is maybe the first major consequence he's maybe ever had to face in a lifetime filled to the brim with absolute shit-ass behavior and how living a consequence-free life has probably left him very ill-prepared for the stress of such a major consequence and how that stress can only be compounded by his age and health and diet and general temperament and demonstrable inability to grow or change as a human being. Yes, he will probably still be fine even despite all of this because that's the world we live in, but you gotta have dreams in life.
― Great-Tasting Burger Perceptions (Old Lunch), Monday, 29 January 2024 19:06 (two months ago) link
no his situation after failing out of grifting atlantic city was truly quite dire bmu
― a single gunshot and polite applause (Hunt3r), Monday, 29 January 2024 19:17 (two months ago) link
"recreating" himself by becoming a blowhard reality tv/branding machine was actually the only thing he succeeded at. well that and tax fraud. for a while. annd presidon'ting
― a single gunshot and polite applause (Hunt3r), Monday, 29 January 2024 19:19 (two months ago) link
Quite a stretch to say he succeeded at presidenting.
He did a bang-up job at leaving the country in a shambles.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 29 January 2024 19:20 (two months ago) link
trump was in pretty bad shape before his t.v. show, right? i think i remember reading that. the show saved him. he had no money. getting sued left and right. nobody cared about him. that new yorker article was good about all that. blaming the fate of the world on the producer of trump's t.v. show.
same with rudy before 9/11. nobody wanted to have anything to do with him.
― scott seward, Monday, 29 January 2024 19:25 (two months ago) link
I think like a lot of rich people he leverages his value (as such) to get favorable loans, and those loans constitute his cash. But of course, as this lawsuit has underscored, he's repeatedly lied about or exaggerated his value to get said loans, so dunno what he's going to do to drum up more money to pay these fins and penalties. No doubt some other bank or entity will come through with more loans, if they see benefit from it. Nothing has ever stopped banks from being stupid with their (our) money.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 29 January 2024 19:31 (two months ago) link
He's pretty much run out of banks to borrow from. I'm sure he's in hock to the Russians for millions.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 29 January 2024 19:32 (two months ago) link
GoFundMe is still there, for millions of gullible dudes in red hats.
― Washington Post Malone (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 29 January 2024 19:33 (two months ago) link
presidon'ting
lol did you just coin this? applause.
― dead precedents (sleeve), Monday, 29 January 2024 19:43 (two months ago) link
That's what I get for not reading carefully, lol
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 29 January 2024 19:43 (two months ago) link
Clear and Presi-danger
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 29 January 2024 19:45 (two months ago) link
*bows with flourish*
― a single gunshot and polite applause (Hunt3r), Monday, 29 January 2024 20:53 (two months ago) link
Fake-hairison Ford?
― Washington Post Malone (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 29 January 2024 22:26 (two months ago) link
u love to see it
"If it'll cause him pain for me to give money to certain things, that's my intent," Carroll told George Stephanopoulos on "Good Morning America," suggesting she would create a "fund for the women who have been sexually assaulted by Donald Trump."
https://abcnews.go.com/amp/GMA/Culture/jean-carroll-plans-83-million-donald-trump-hates/story?id=106751516
― dead precedents (sleeve), Monday, 29 January 2024 22:39 (two months ago) link
Truly a genius
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/donald-trump-more-popular-taylor-swift-maga-biden-1234956829/
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 30 January 2024 19:19 (two months ago) link
MAGA pundits have spent months fuming about Swift and her boyfriend — already a hated figure for his role as a Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine spokesman.
Huh, I didn't know that, or tuned it out
― Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 30 January 2024 19:32 (two months ago) link
^^That's why Aaron Rodgers was trying to feud with him.
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 30 January 2024 19:37 (two months ago) link
Trump has also privately claimed that he is “more popular” than Swift is and that he has more committed fans than she does
i think he definitely has more fans who are committed at one point or another
― omar little, Tuesday, 30 January 2024 19:42 (two months ago) link
Good post: https://www.lawyersgunsmoneyblog.com/2024/01/taylor-swift-and-the-paranoid-style
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 30 January 2024 19:48 (two months ago) link
All's I want to say (rubbing my hands together): 'Mwaahahahahahah! Our secret weapon is Taylor Swift, what do you got? Huh?'
― Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 30 January 2024 19:56 (two months ago) link
Dean Cain, Kevin Sorbo, Gina Carano, Roseanne Barr, …
― the body of a spider... (scampering alpaca), Tuesday, 30 January 2024 19:57 (two months ago) link
Big Football and Big Pop in bed with Big FD
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Tuesday, 30 January 2024 19:58 (two months ago) link
Try That In A Taylor's Version
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 30 January 2024 19:59 (two months ago) link
doesn't seem fair to namecheck Stephen A. Smith in there. he's wrong about a lot. it's sort of his thing.
― frogbs, Tuesday, 30 January 2024 19:59 (two months ago) link
Oops.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/01/nyregion/weisselberg-perjury-trump-fraud.html
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 1 February 2024 21:10 (two months ago) link
Quite a specimen!
https://www.cnn.com/2024/02/01/politics/roberta-kaplan-donald-trump-deposition-maralago/index.html
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 2 February 2024 18:28 (two months ago) link
CLASSIC: He said, ‘I told you, I told them to make you really bad sandwiches, but they can’t help themselves here. We have the best sandwiches.’”
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 2 February 2024 18:32 (two months ago) link
Fani Willis waited until the very last minute to respond to Roman's motion to dismiss, sounds like the relationship did not begin until after Wade was divorced and after he was a part of the legal team, which should be helpful. Not sure why they let weeks go by before making a strong statement. It seems like at least in the context of the trial this should be completely thrown out, but no doubt GA republicans will do everything they can to drag it out.
NEW: Fulton County district attorney Fani Willis responds to allegations that she engaged in an “improper” relationship with special prosecutor Nathan Wade.She writes that efforts to disqualify her have “no merit” and should be summarily denied.” pic.twitter.com/JHE0evM2Yq— Anna Bower (@AnnaBower) February 2, 2024
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Friday, 2 February 2024 18:41 (two months ago) link
I mean the only response that really matters is filing the official response in court. court of public opinion doesn't really matter here, at least as far as the case is concerned.
guessing they took their time to make sure they addressed all of the complaints. but I don't know how court works.
― never trust a big book and a simile (Neanderthal), Friday, 2 February 2024 18:42 (two months ago) link
The president has described Trump to longtime friends and close aides as a “sick fuck” who delights in others’ misfortunes, according to three people who have heard the president use the profane description. According to one of the people who has spoken with the president, Biden recently said of Trump: “What a fucking asshole the guy is.”The White House declined to comment.
The White House declined to comment.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 2 February 2024 18:51 (two months ago) link
Biden otm
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 2 February 2024 18:52 (two months ago) link
Trump going to walk out to Kanye's I Love It at his rallies now
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 2 February 2024 19:11 (two months ago) link
Biden is finally putting out a policy i can fully get behind
― omar little, Friday, 2 February 2024 19:21 (two months ago) link
Kaplan said that during a deposition for a fraud case that accused Trump of lending his name to a pyramid scheme through endorsements on “The Celebrity Apprentice,” the former president chastised Habba for offering Kaplan lunch. Kaplan, who also represents writer E. Jean Carroll in her successful sexual abuse and defamation cases against the former president — which have ended in multimillion dollar verdicts — said that the Trump team had “graciously offered to provide” her team with lunch as is often a courtesy practice between opposing counsel.
Later, however, Kaplan said that Trump asked her, “Well, how’d you like the lunch?” and taunted, “I told them to make you really bad sandwiches, but they can’t help themselves here. We have the best sandwiches.”
Kaplan said Trump then threw a huge pile of documents and exhibits across the table and stormed out of the room, then turned to his own attorney and yelled at her.
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Friday, 2 February 2024 19:24 (two months ago) link
The White House declined to comment on what a sick fuck fucking asshole Trump really is
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 2 February 2024 19:24 (two months ago) link
I am not even remotely interested in who or what Fani Willis did or didn't do. The case against Trump should remain the same, even if Willis is a shape-shifting lizard creature from the planet Vulcan.
― Washington Post Malone (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 2 February 2024 19:28 (two months ago) link
a shape-shifting lizard creature from the planet Vulcan
That's actually Taylor Swift, yeah?
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 2 February 2024 19:31 (two months ago) link
Willis also seemingly fired a whistleblower who told her about Wade’s misuse of grant money
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Friday, 2 February 2024 19:48 (two months ago) link
a shape-shifting lizard creature from the planet VulcanThat's actually Taylor Swift, yeah?
Based on how easily Trump and the conservative echo chamber were able to turn Anthony Fauci- who at one point was polling as more popular than Trump- into a punching bag, I’m concerned about how hard they are going to go after her. Especially with the added dimension of massive sexism that is always so successfully deployed against women in power
― epistantophus, Friday, 2 February 2024 20:21 (two months ago) link
IDK, the Swiftie Army is not something I'd want to tangle with
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 2 February 2024 20:26 (two months ago) link
🇯🇵 Statement from the Embassy of Japan on Taylor Swift’s Reported Travel from Japan to the United States ✈️🏈 Are you ready for it? pic.twitter.com/wFKadehTJk— Japan Embassy DC🌸 (@JapanEmbDC) February 2, 2024
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 2 February 2024 20:27 (two months ago) link
Will Jack Antonoff comply with his Congressional subpoena?
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Friday, 2 February 2024 20:27 (two months ago) link
Xpost I mean, does it matter (from a legal perspective) how they go after her? Obviously I don't want anybody going through a harassment campaign from edgelord Republicans, especially not a Black woman, but public opinion isn't going to have any bearing on the case itself.
― never trust a big book and a simile (Neanderthal), Friday, 2 February 2024 20:28 (two months ago) link
they're looking absolutely desperate with the taylor swift thing, just completely pathetic.
― omar little, Friday, 2 February 2024 20:28 (two months ago) link
people were not "fans" of Dr. Anthony Fauci the way they are with Taylor Swift, they ain't gonna win this battle
― frogbs, Friday, 2 February 2024 20:30 (two months ago) link
tbh I'm surprised they didn't issue a statement that they're planning to send Air Force One to pick her up
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 2 February 2024 20:30 (two months ago) link
Taylor has been given shoot to kill orders
― never trust a big book and a simile (Neanderthal), Friday, 2 February 2024 20:31 (two months ago) link
Taylor Swift is...the Transporter.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 2 February 2024 20:32 (two months ago) link
speaking of which the other day this whole thing was brought up at the record store and an older guy started talking about how some art organization he was a part of in the 80s did a big event that was sponsored by Trump Tower and featured a speech by the man himself. apparently Trump arrived with some woman who clearly was not his wife, spoke for about 5 minutes and left, then just outright refused to pay a dime, which caused this organization to fold. I believe the way he put it was "fuck that guy, he's a huge asshole and I hope everyone knows it"
― frogbs, Friday, 2 February 2024 20:34 (two months ago) link
Taylor Swift should fly Concorde, which I recall is how Phil Collins was able to get from London to Philly in time to play both cities for Live Aid.
― henry s, Friday, 2 February 2024 20:45 (two months ago) link
I remember that Collins stunt All Too Well
― Washington Post Malone (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 2 February 2024 20:50 (two months ago) link
I do like the idea that someone like Taylor Swift can be so rich and successful that she owns a private decommissioned Concorde.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 2 February 2024 21:14 (two months ago) link
"Blank Space (Sonic Boom Remix)"
― dead precedents (sleeve), Friday, 2 February 2024 21:15 (two months ago) link
Here's the Wahington Post's latest on the Fani Willis stuff, it goes into lots of details of all the ins and outs. The bottom line is that the accusations may be ridiculous and technically unrelated to the actual case, but there are still many ways for this to go completely off the rails.
Gift link:
https://wapo.st/3UqCHCl
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Friday, 2 February 2024 21:26 (two months ago) link
I'm sorry, but this is a don't shit (fuck) where you eat type situation and easily avoidable.
Even if there are no merits.
― il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Saturday, 3 February 2024 00:01 (two months ago) link
A love affair with someone you supervise automatically carries plenty of pitfalls. Often it's a bad idea. But this stuff happens everywhere all the time and I haven't heard a whisper that it wasn't consensual. The 'ethics' charges Trump's lawyers raised are all bogus afaics.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Saturday, 3 February 2024 01:03 (two months ago) link
It's complete bullshit and a transparently craven move by the Trump team plus GA politicians to undermine the case. I just think it has a non-trivial chance of being consequential bullshit.
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Saturday, 3 February 2024 01:32 (two months ago) link
Took them long enough, but this is good news
BREAKING: Donald Trump is *NOT* immune from prosecution, DC Circuit rules.Details TK pic.twitter.com/U0rgc5kNXd— Kyle Cheney (@kyledcheney) February 6, 2024
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Tuesday, 6 February 2024 15:09 (two months ago) link
Your move, Sam and Clarence.
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 6 February 2024 15:14 (two months ago) link
and Ted and Alice
― badpee pooper (Eric H.), Tuesday, 6 February 2024 15:21 (two months ago) link
Photoshop that sucker!
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 6 February 2024 15:22 (two months ago) link
I didn't pay attention in Civics/Gov't class, but how does SCOTUS decide whether to take up or decline to hear a case? Always seemed a mystery to me
― Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 6 February 2024 18:07 (two months ago) link
whim
― the absence of bikes (f. hazel), Tuesday, 6 February 2024 18:08 (two months ago) link
Until Taft led a successful effort to reform the cert process, they pretty much by law had to accept almost every appeal.
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 6 February 2024 18:09 (two months ago) link
(four of nine them have to want to hear it)
― the absence of bikes (f. hazel), Tuesday, 6 February 2024 18:09 (two months ago) link
supposedly the justices discuss whether the case presents elements not adequately addressed by precedent and appropriately settled during appeal, thus requiring SCOTUS review. in reality, what f. hazel said.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 6 February 2024 19:50 (two months ago) link
I don't have much faith in the Supreme Court either but I don't think they're going to rule on the side of "the President can break the law"
― frogbs, Tuesday, 6 February 2024 19:56 (two months ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iG3V3CTUliI
― Chyiv Kyiv (Fetchboy), Tuesday, 6 February 2024 19:56 (two months ago) link
― frogbs, Tuesday, February 6, 2024 1:56 PM
What, in the judicial histories of Thomas, Alito, Gorsuch, Kav and Barrett, makes you think such a thing?
― that's when I reach for my copy of Revolver (WmC), Tuesday, 6 February 2024 20:25 (two months ago) link
Biden if they ruled that way: "Oh great!" *immediately has them arrested for roffles*
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 6 February 2024 20:26 (two months ago) link
Right, it's all an issue of timing. Give it a year, rule the (GOP) president can declare himself king for life
― badpee pooper (Eric H.), Tuesday, 6 February 2024 20:30 (two months ago) link
^^^That's what the Founding Father would have wanted... a Christian Monarchy
― Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 6 February 2024 20:31 (two months ago) link
where is the lie?
― badpee pooper (Eric H.), Tuesday, 6 February 2024 20:34 (two months ago) link
(said everyone who never read a single founding document)
I saw a real document today that Ben Franklin signed. There were wax seals even. I didn't read it but I think I'm better than you guys now.
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Tuesday, 6 February 2024 20:36 (two months ago) link
said everyone who never read a single founding document)
― badpee pooper (Eric H.),
srsly?
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 6 February 2024 20:37 (two months ago) link
ferioufly
― Virginia Wolfman (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 6 February 2024 20:41 (two months ago) link
no, of course I'm not being serious
― badpee pooper (Eric H.), Tuesday, 6 February 2024 20:43 (two months ago) link
I love my irreligious Masonic founding fathers.
― B. Amato (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 6 February 2024 21:50 (two months ago) link
feriouflyi love this post so goddamn much. like my entire mentality fees validated lolalso, the founders were radical dipshits about the even-possibility of tyranny and would have roasted trump on a fucking spit long before now. in my amateur student opinion.
― a single gunshot and polite applause (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 6 February 2024 22:59 (two months ago) link
Just a little something
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/feature/intro-chesebro-docs
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 12 February 2024 18:43 (two months ago) link
Hmm, sounds familiar:
During the interview with prosecutors, Chesebro cast himself as the latest in a long line of attorneys to be victimized by Trump and those around him. He blamed the campaign for throwing him under the bus in the years after the Capitol insurrection, suggesting that the campaign ordered him to stay quiet, while also casting him to the Jan. 6 Committee as a rogue attorney, all while refusing to pay his legal bills. “It’s been a real lesson in not working with people that you don’t know and are not sure you can trust. It really went south for me,” Chesebro told prosecutors. “I had a wonderful apartment in NYC that I had to sell for a $2 million dollar loss, and lost almost all my net worth because of the attorney bill.”
“It’s been a real lesson in not working with people that you don’t know and are not sure you can trust. It really went south for me,” Chesebro told prosecutors. “I had a wonderful apartment in NYC that I had to sell for a $2 million dollar loss, and lost almost all my net worth because of the attorney bill.”
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 12 February 2024 18:47 (two months ago) link
if only there had been some clue that this might happen! lol
― Surfin' burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (sleeve), Monday, 12 February 2024 18:49 (two months ago) link
I mean if an upshot of everything Trump-legal-related are a bunch of arrogant types who happen to be lawyers getting constantly hosed by their client while even more arrogant types who happen etc. line up for inevitable future hosing, then I welcome these obvious idiots getting theirs.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 12 February 2024 18:52 (two months ago) link
Cheesebro can go fuck himself. He knew exactly what he was doing.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 12 February 2024 18:55 (two months ago) link
theorizing, in early stages, went even further than previously known, imagining a Jan. 6 that lasted for not hours but days, an intervention by Supreme Court justices that they presumed to be loyal to President Trump, and a vice president who upended his constitutional duties, allowing the U.S. to descend into chaos
Good to have documentary confirmation. There were open speculations about this train of events even before Jan. 6. Most likely they were fueled by leaks coming from people involved in the conspiracy, especially since the reach of the conspiracy by necessity extended to many hundreds of people, not all of whom were all that bright. Such huge conspiracies are impossible to keep secret and coups d'etat are always preceded by insistent rumors of a coming coup.
No matter what the indictments say are the charges brought by the special counsel, the reality was treason.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Monday, 12 February 2024 19:00 (two months ago) link
I think his own attorneys are clearly not happy with him, per this first story in the overall series:
Attorneys for Chesebro downplayed his involvement to TPM, casting him as a lover of legal theory who lacked both the influence and understanding to impact the Trump campaign’s plans. “If you meet him and ask one straightforward question you’ll get 12 different ways it could be,” Chesebro attorney Manny Arora said.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 12 February 2024 19:01 (two months ago) link
"He's a confused legal moron who drives us nuts but he's paying us for now."
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 12 February 2024 19:02 (two months ago) link
Okay what the
It appears that Ken Chesebro had a secret online identity in the runup to Jan. 6. In emails obtained by TPM, Chesebro told other Trump lawyers to read documents uploaded from a Google Drive account called “Badger Pundit,” and encouraged other attorneys, via email, to support him in various Twitter (now known as X) arguments that an account with the “Badger Pundit” handle was engaging in.
In emails obtained by TPM, Chesebro told other Trump lawyers to read documents uploaded from a Google Drive account called “Badger Pundit,” and encouraged other attorneys, via email, to support him in various Twitter (now known as X) arguments that an account with the “Badger Pundit” handle was engaging in.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 12 February 2024 19:03 (two months ago) link
It's interesting to note how Trump's recent comments about NATO countries focus on "you don't pay your bills." He literally used those words. The world's most famous non-bill-payer.
So I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say Donald Trump: dud.
But I might kinda admire the brazenness of that hypocrisy if it came from someone less evil and harmful.
― Virginia Wolfman (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 12 February 2024 19:03 (two months ago) link
Sounds real fun to be around!
That backup X account remains active, and unlocked. Last August, after Georgia prosecutors charged Chesebro and others in a RICO indictment, thebadger14 complained: “Can’t the DA just drop all the RICO stuff, and focus on the fake electors? Seems like that’s plenty.”
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 12 February 2024 19:04 (two months ago) link
hahahahaa so desperate
― impostor syndrome to the (expletive) max (stevie), Monday, 12 February 2024 20:56 (two months ago) link
I like his early work
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIyixC9NsLI
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Monday, 12 February 2024 21:47 (two months ago) link
“The Badger Pundit”
🦡
― Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 12 February 2024 22:00 (two months ago) link
You know what? We complain a lot about the NY Times' coverage of Trump, and rightly so, but today they published a long and exhaustive guide to all his different court cases. (That's a gift link.) This is just the intro:
Former President Donald J. Trump’s legal problems are coming to a head as a wave of law enforcement scrutiny into his business and political careers culminates in overlapping trials and judicial rulings.Mr. Trump has been sued by the New York attorney general and criminally indicted in four separate cases: two brought by the special counsel Jack Smith, one by the Manhattan district attorney and the last coming from local prosecutors in Georgia.The result is a striking split screen as Mr. Trump fights multiple lawsuits and 91 felony charges across four states while seeking to lock up the Republican presidential nomination. His first criminal trial could start as soon as March, in the thick of the campaign.The trials began last year, not with a criminal case, but with the civil trial led by the New York attorney general, Letitia James, who sued Mr. Trump, his adult sons and their family business, accusing them of fraudulently inflating the former president’s net worth by billions of dollars.Ms. James, a Democrat, wants to extract a penalty of roughly $370 million, and to oust Mr. Trump from his own company and the wider world of New York real estate. In effect, she could run Mr. Trump out of doing business in the state he once called home.The criminal cases carry far more serious repercussions for Mr. Trump, who could face years behind bars.The first indictment came in March 2023, when the Manhattan district attorney, Alvin L. Bragg, filed 34 felony charges against Mr. Trump related to what prosecutors described as a scheme to cover up a potential sex scandal and clear his path to the presidency in 2016.The first federal case came months later, in June, as part of the special counsel’s investigation into Mr. Trump’s handling of classified documents and whether he obstructed the government’s efforts to recover them after he left office.In that case, Mr. Trump faces 40 criminal counts: 32 related to withholding national defense information, five related to concealing the possession of classified documents, one related to making false statements and two related to an effort to delete security camera footage at Mr. Trump’s Mar-a-Lago estate, where he stored the documents.The special counsel later filed another case — arguably the most consequential of all Mr. Trump’s legal entanglements — accusing him of conspiring to subvert the results of the 2020 election, which he lost to President Biden.The fourth and perhaps final indictment of Mr. Trump was brought by the Fulton County district attorney, Fani T. Willis, who accused the former president of orchestrating a “criminal enterprise” to reverse Georgia’s results in the 2020 election. He was charged alongside 18 of his lawyers, advisers and supporters as part of a sweeping racketeering case.Here is where the notable cases involving the former president stand:
Mr. Trump has been sued by the New York attorney general and criminally indicted in four separate cases: two brought by the special counsel Jack Smith, one by the Manhattan district attorney and the last coming from local prosecutors in Georgia.
The result is a striking split screen as Mr. Trump fights multiple lawsuits and 91 felony charges across four states while seeking to lock up the Republican presidential nomination. His first criminal trial could start as soon as March, in the thick of the campaign.
The trials began last year, not with a criminal case, but with the civil trial led by the New York attorney general, Letitia James, who sued Mr. Trump, his adult sons and their family business, accusing them of fraudulently inflating the former president’s net worth by billions of dollars.
Ms. James, a Democrat, wants to extract a penalty of roughly $370 million, and to oust Mr. Trump from his own company and the wider world of New York real estate. In effect, she could run Mr. Trump out of doing business in the state he once called home.
The criminal cases carry far more serious repercussions for Mr. Trump, who could face years behind bars.
The first indictment came in March 2023, when the Manhattan district attorney, Alvin L. Bragg, filed 34 felony charges against Mr. Trump related to what prosecutors described as a scheme to cover up a potential sex scandal and clear his path to the presidency in 2016.
The first federal case came months later, in June, as part of the special counsel’s investigation into Mr. Trump’s handling of classified documents and whether he obstructed the government’s efforts to recover them after he left office.
In that case, Mr. Trump faces 40 criminal counts: 32 related to withholding national defense information, five related to concealing the possession of classified documents, one related to making false statements and two related to an effort to delete security camera footage at Mr. Trump’s Mar-a-Lago estate, where he stored the documents.
The special counsel later filed another case — arguably the most consequential of all Mr. Trump’s legal entanglements — accusing him of conspiring to subvert the results of the 2020 election, which he lost to President Biden.
The fourth and perhaps final indictment of Mr. Trump was brought by the Fulton County district attorney, Fani T. Willis, who accused the former president of orchestrating a “criminal enterprise” to reverse Georgia’s results in the 2020 election. He was charged alongside 18 of his lawyers, advisers and supporters as part of a sweeping racketeering case.
Here is where the notable cases involving the former president stand:
― Tahuti Watches L&O:SVU Reruns Without His Ape (unperson), Monday, 12 February 2024 22:21 (two months ago) link
And as for their appeal of the immunity decision to the Supreme Court...uh:
Trump's lawyers argue that putting him on trial now would violate the First Amendment rights of "all American voters," who are entitled to hear what he has to say.
https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:rjczpaotvf22sva3wheiwmgk/bafkreia3uo3bczlcg4wt2gr2wlutd3haaeqmgb4dpo3mhfr6djmbxuqav4@jpeg
As you might guess, legal folks on social media are, how you say, bemused.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 12 February 2024 22:55 (two months ago) link
That is what we call a makeweight.
Or, more accurately, bullshit.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 12 February 2024 23:07 (two months ago) link
oh to have it dismissed properly as frivolous without briefings or nuthin. it won't
― a single gunshot and polite applause (Hunt3r), Monday, 12 February 2024 23:37 (two months ago) link
Now this is some hilarious news, RNC putting itself up for highway robbery
NEWS: a major Trump shakeup at the RNC. Trump will endorse Michael Whatley to succeed Ronna McDaniel as RNC Chair and Lara Trump for RNC co-chair. Chris LaCivita will be RNC COO, and will maintain his role as a senior adviser on the Trump campaign. https://t.co/zJfAgSsBov— Alex Isenstadt (@politicoalex) February 13, 2024
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Tuesday, 13 February 2024 02:00 (two months ago) link
yay bye Ronna McDonna
― never trust a big book and a simile (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 13 February 2024 02:14 (two months ago) link
Rhonda McRomney Daniel-san
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Tuesday, 13 February 2024 03:05 (two months ago) link
Ronna Ronna Ronna Ronna
Batman
― Virginia Wolfman (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 13 February 2024 03:30 (two months ago) link
Ronna Ronna Bo Bonna ...
― nickn, Tuesday, 13 February 2024 17:17 (two months ago) link
Awwww... what a big softie
In a Valentine’s Day fundraising message, Donald Trump sought to demonstrate the depth of his love for Melania Trump, his third wife, by referring to his lengthy list of criminal charges.
Under the headline “This is a Valentine’s Day letter from Donald J Trump”, the message sent out on Wednesday began: “Dear Melania. I love you!”
It then took its unexpected turn.
“Even after every single indictment, arrest and witch hunt, you never left my side. You’ve always supported me through everything. I wouldn’t be the man I am today without your guidance, kindness and warmth. You will always mean the world to me, Melania! From your husband with love, Donald J Trump.”
Recipients who clicked on one of three big red invitations to “send your love” were directed to a page offering the chance to send a “personalised message” to Melania – and to donate to Trump’s campaign amounts ranging from $20.24 to $3,300 or “other”
― Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 14 February 2024 18:42 (two months ago) link
ABG: Always Be Grifting
― Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 14 February 2024 18:43 (two months ago) link
Proud of this guy
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Wednesday, 14 February 2024 19:04 (two months ago) link
a ruling in the NY fraud case is coming on Friday, so that should be another major chunk of change extracted from him
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Wednesday, 14 February 2024 19:09 (two months ago) link
Putting that mildly. (It's important to remember that Trump will obviously appeal that, but if so he has to put up all the money in stated damages first -- ALL of it, plus interest. And if Engoron judges the way NYAG is asking for, that's $400 million right there.)
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 14 February 2024 19:11 (two months ago) link
If I were Trump I would have sold expensive Valentine's Day cards with my "Donald J. Trump" signature pre-printed on it. Maybe with "Dear Melania" pre-printed, too, that would have been funny.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 14 February 2024 19:39 (two months ago) link
But I guess that's why I'm not President.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 14 February 2024 19:40 (two months ago) link
I just threw up in my mouth a little.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 14 February 2024 20:18 (two months ago) link
^ Me, every day since 11/8/16.
― Great-Tasting Burger Perceptions (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 14 February 2024 20:51 (two months ago) link
me, every night due to acid reflux
― CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 14 February 2024 22:45 (two months ago) link
For all the masochists on here, Fani Willis disqualification hearing live stream
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqG_Nsc2ktA
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Thursday, 15 February 2024 14:36 (two months ago) link
I have no idea what the latest is on that. seems like a ridiculously stupid self own but idk
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 15 February 2024 14:47 (two months ago) link
so is the consensus that if she is disqualified, the case is dead? sounds incredibly idiotic
― frogbs, Thursday, 15 February 2024 14:50 (two months ago) link
The issue as I understand it is that if she is disqualified, her whole team has to step down, and then it's up to the discretion of the AG as to whether they want to proceed with the case.
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Thursday, 15 February 2024 14:56 (two months ago) link
how the hell are you working on a case you know is going to be under a microscope and have anything that seems even close to inappropriate going on? wtf?
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 15 February 2024 14:58 (two months ago) link
Just one lucky break for ol' Teflon Donnie after another.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 15 February 2024 15:07 (two months ago) link
Probably because there ought to be no grey area over whether it's a conflict of interest or it isn't. I would trust her to know better than the co-defendant I'd never even heard of before this came up but idk either.
― nashwan, Thursday, 15 February 2024 15:10 (two months ago) link
i wouldn't panic about it
https://www.ajc.com/politics/ethics-experts-back-up-fulton-da-in-trump-conflict-of-interest-dispute/5FUWN72MKVH55GF3BTHKDETCBY/?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=ajcnews_tw
― a (waterface), Thursday, 15 February 2024 15:12 (two months ago) link
“Disqualifying conflicts,” the group wrote, “occur when a prosecutor’s previous representation of a defendant gives the prosecutor forbidden access to confidential information about the defendant or a conflict otherwise directly impacts fairness and due process owed a defendant.”
“That kind of conflict is not at issue here,” they said.
― a (waterface), Thursday, 15 February 2024 15:13 (two months ago) link
unfortunately that group is not going to make a decision on this issue
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Thursday, 15 February 2024 15:14 (two months ago) link
but they all wrote an amicus brief supporting the DA to stay on in the case, and judges are usually hesistant to throw out cases for such non events
― a (waterface), Thursday, 15 February 2024 15:15 (two months ago) link
I once knew a guy who got drunk and drove his car into a tree. He was going to be in serious trouble. But he did so in a jurisdiction that subsequently ceased to exist, so there were exactly no consequences. He later became a lawyer and is now a judge.
(Long boring story, it was a tiny town where the police chief was also the mayor, and the city government consisted of him and his brother. They were both arrested for some kind of corruption, and the town just kind of dissolved back into its surrounding county.)
But anyway, sorry, even if the prosecutor is a reckless and/or bad person, you are still not supposed to do crimes. Usually you are still in trouble.
― fleetwood macrame (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 15 February 2024 15:21 (two months ago) link
It's a highly politicized case and there are lots of powerful people in GA that would like to see it go away. I'm not saying that it 100% won't happen if Willis is disqualified, but it certainly puts it at risk of never going forward.
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Thursday, 15 February 2024 15:25 (two months ago) link
I don't really get why this is a crime, they are both on the same side and it doesn't seem they did anything sketchy? just kinda looks bad
― frogbs, Thursday, 15 February 2024 15:25 (two months ago) link
Meanwhile, the Stormy Daniels criminal trial is going to proceed on March 25
yeah, it's not really clear, but I guess we'll see what happens in this hearing. I don't think disqualification is dependent on there being a crime though.
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Thursday, 15 February 2024 15:26 (two months ago) link
If the GA case gets buried, that kinda becomes a pretty easy rallying point for '24 there, no?
― Rich E. (Eric H.), Thursday, 15 February 2024 15:27 (two months ago) link
Would love to hear more about these crimes you think the prosecutor did
― a (waterface), Thursday, 15 February 2024 15:27 (two months ago) link
i don't think that is what that says
― c u (crüt), Thursday, 15 February 2024 15:34 (two months ago) link
oh you are right
apologies Ye Mad Puffin
― a (waterface), Thursday, 15 February 2024 15:35 (two months ago) link
It's cool, waterfall, that was ambiguously worded. I just meant that Trump should still be held accountable even if Willis acted improperly. Which I don't think, but in any case, it's irrelevant to what Trump did/didn't do.
― fleetwood macrame (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 15 February 2024 16:08 (two months ago) link
Noted somewhere else, but profoundly sad and ironic that Trump is literally a convicted sex offender and is not disqualified from running for president, but this DA had a consensual affair with a co-worker and suddenly her own qualifications are in question. (The money stuff is a different issue, I suppose.)
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 15 February 2024 16:16 (two months ago) link
Not a convicted sex offender (unfortunately). He was found liable in a civil trial (which was for defamation iirc).
― il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Thursday, 15 February 2024 16:19 (two months ago) link
he was found liable for the assault as well in the previous trial, but you're right that doesn't make him 'convicted' since not a criminal trial
― CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Thursday, 15 February 2024 16:19 (two months ago) link
He's convicted in the OJ sense
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Thursday, 15 February 2024 16:20 (two months ago) link
The Trump Legalistic Universe, everyone!
― Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 15 February 2024 16:23 (two months ago) link
here's what I've been able to get from the GA hearing so far:
A former friend of Fani Willis established at the beginning of the hearing that the relationship between Willis and Wade dated back to 2019, which is presumably earlier than was indicated in their statements. This lead to the denial of Nathan Wade's request to quash his subpoena, and he took the witness stand.
From what I can tell, Roman's lawyer has attempted to go after Wade in a couple of ways, neither of which seemed incredibly successful so far.
1. Perjury regarding his relationship with Willis. They appear to be trying to catch Wade in a lie regarding his statements about a relationship with Willis in his divorce proceedings and in his response to motion to disqualify. The problem they are running into with this is that Wade is making a somewhat fine grained distinction between whether he had an affair and whether he had a relationship. From his perspective, everything that happened with Willis is above board because his marriage was effectively over in 2015, which is when they agreed to get divorced, even though the actual divorce didn't happen until much later.
2. Paying for travel and gifts for Willis, potentially with tax payer dollars. This comes from the fact that Wade booked travel and charged other vacation expenses with Wade to his company credit card. However, as Wade explained, he always booked thing to his card because Willis did not like to book travel. She's a very public figure and did not want people following her around. What's not indicated in his credit card transactions is that she was also very meticulous about paying him back for everything in cash. She was very adamant about paying her own way to such a degree that it was apparently a point of contention between her and Wade.
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Thursday, 15 February 2024 17:59 (two months ago) link
Aw so sad
https://www.salon.com/2024/02/15/trump-is-out-of-money-fear-will-drain-rnc-funds-to-pay-his-own-legal-bills/
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 15 February 2024 18:26 (two months ago) link
poor baby
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Thursday, 15 February 2024 18:30 (two months ago) link
get those Presidents Day NFTs out now!
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Thursday, 15 February 2024 18:33 (two months ago) link
From Ned's Salon link:
"Trump is out of money which is why he is going hard at Ronna Romney so he can take over the RNC treasury," tweeted former Trump White House communications director Anthony Scaramucci.
He's baaaack! Hurray?
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 15 February 2024 18:38 (two months ago) link
"In 2008, participants of the First World Conference of Waste Pickers chose to use the term "waste picker" for English usage to facilitate global communication."
a man gotta eat
― a single gunshot and polite applause (Hunt3r), Thursday, 15 February 2024 18:58 (two months ago) link
Bring the band back together. Bannon, Scaramucci, everyone. Coalition of the Worst.
― fleetwood macrame (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 15 February 2024 19:41 (two months ago) link
The Mooch is a straight-up anti-trumper now
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 15 February 2024 19:43 (two months ago) link
Fani Willis is now on the stand and she's about ready to light these people on fire
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Thursday, 15 February 2024 20:09 (two months ago) link
more power to her
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 15 February 2024 20:10 (two months ago) link
Wade was mostly patient and tried to be helpful answering questions, though in a very lawyerly way. Willis, on the other hand, is clearly extremely pissed off and ready to tell Roman's attorney to her face that she's a liar.
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Thursday, 15 February 2024 20:11 (two months ago) link
"May I say 'eat a dick' your Honor?"
― CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Thursday, 15 February 2024 20:13 (two months ago) link
I love all the explanations about keeping cash in the house
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Thursday, 15 February 2024 20:36 (two months ago) link
also lines up exactly with what Wade was saying about how she paid for things, there was a lot of skepticism being raised about the fact that she always paid case, but then she immediately showed up in the court room and asked to be put on the stand
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Thursday, 15 February 2024 20:40 (two months ago) link
*paid cash
Willis attacked defense attorney Ashleigh Merchant as she began to question Willis during the hearing, saying that questions she was asking were based on lies.“It’s ridiculous that you lied on Monday and yet here we still are,” Willis said of a hearing earlier this week on efforts by Willis to stop Thursday’s hearing from occurring.
“It’s ridiculous that you lied on Monday and yet here we still are,” Willis said of a hearing earlier this week on efforts by Willis to stop Thursday’s hearing from occurring.
― CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Thursday, 15 February 2024 20:40 (two months ago) link
May I say 'eat a dick' your Honor?"
"All rise..."
― fleetwood macrame (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 15 February 2024 20:43 (two months ago) link
get 'em Fani
― I painted my teeth (sleeve), Thursday, 15 February 2024 20:45 (two months ago) link
The security presence in Judge Scott McAfee’s courtroom increased significantly once Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis unexpectedly took the stand.During the hours of previous witness testimony on Thursday, only two or three sheriffs deputy’s were present in the room.At least eight now are visible during Willis’ ongoing testimony.
During the hours of previous witness testimony on Thursday, only two or three sheriffs deputy’s were present in the room.
At least eight now are visible during Willis’ ongoing testimony.
huh, I wonder why they're doing that
― CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Thursday, 15 February 2024 20:45 (two months ago) link
(I do not actually wonder, it's rhetorical)
― CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Thursday, 15 February 2024 20:46 (two months ago) link
pretty much sums it up
https://x.com/Acyn/status/1758231232473633020
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Thursday, 15 February 2024 20:50 (two months ago) link
Willis: You're confused, you think I'm on trial, these people are on trial for stealing an election in 2020. I'm not on trial. pic.twitter.com/YgARkEgJB6— Acyn (@Acyn) February 15, 2024
Grateful Dead fans were often called Deadheads. Arnold Palmer's supporters were sometimes called Arnie's Army. Jimmy Buffet fans have been referred to as Parrotheads.
Fani Willis fans might reasonably be called...
Wait for it...
The Fani Pack
― fleetwood macrame (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 15 February 2024 20:54 (two months ago) link
Have I clicked on the Borowitz Report by mistake?
― impostor syndrome to the (expletive) max (stevie), Thursday, 15 February 2024 21:34 (two months ago) link
You did click on the Donald Trump: Classic or dud? thread, I’m not sure that gives any of us a leg up on anyone who goes to The Boroqitz Report
― Cemetry Gaetz (DJP), Thursday, 15 February 2024 21:59 (two months ago) link
When will someone mention ICP?
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Thursday, 15 February 2024 22:09 (two months ago) link
Man, Mike Roman’s Wiki entry is wall to wall asshole. Seems like he fancies himself a Roger Stone.
― Requiem for a Dream: The Musical! (Dan Peterson), Thursday, 15 February 2024 23:35 (two months ago) link
doesn't everyone
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 15 February 2024 23:45 (two months ago) link
I have a tattoo of Roger Stone's tattoo of Richard Nixon's Tattoo of Cher.
― fleetwood macrame (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 15 February 2024 23:56 (two months ago) link
I’m at about 70% that she’ll be removed from the case
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Friday, 16 February 2024 00:45 (two months ago) link
I'm more like 50%. It doesn't seem like anything truly unethical happened, so it comes down to how annoyed the judge is at this whole spectacle. Does he think this has caused so much disruption to the case that it can't be fixed?
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Friday, 16 February 2024 01:05 (two months ago) link
thing is, a jury don't decide whether she's removed or not, it's the judge and his mood, so putting a number on it will be impossible, unless you have recent case history to draw on.
― CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Friday, 16 February 2024 01:08 (two months ago) link
They had a witness today who claimed that Willis was lying about when the relationship started, and Wade had to revise his previous statements.
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Friday, 16 February 2024 02:11 (two months ago) link
I watched a bit of her testimony with closed caption on and did not think she did herself any favors.
Arguing with the questioner is not a great approach for a witness.
― il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Friday, 16 February 2024 02:32 (two months ago) link
Depends on the context and the witness.
― keen reverberations of twee (collardio gelatinous), Friday, 16 February 2024 03:06 (two months ago) link
I don't think it was great that the judge had to reprimand her a couple times, but the whole scene got pretty messy for a while, and you can't really blame her for being so angry about it all.
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Friday, 16 February 2024 03:28 (two months ago) link
but you can blame her for acting angry about it. operating at a v high level in a courtroom environment is like, actually her job. if that what she thinks will be most effective wrt to both exculpating herself and also staying on the matter, that's her judgment, i should hope-- not mere reaction. i think that's poor judgment, but not as poor judgment as what got us to this.
― a single gunshot and polite applause (Hunt3r), Friday, 16 February 2024 03:34 (two months ago) link
I had two teeth pulled this Monday and was unable not to occasionally squirm and flinch in the dentist’s chair.
All things considered, Ms. Willis kept awfully cool and composed on the stand. She must have been seething inside.
― keen reverberations of twee (collardio gelatinous), Friday, 16 February 2024 03:36 (two months ago) link
Yeah but Hunt3r it’s one thing to channel emotion when you’re wearing the prosecutor hat and it’s someone else who is being prodded and judged; another entirely when you’re the one, all of a sudden. Especially if it falls into age-old American traditions of persecuting female sexuality as well as perverse fascination with black sexuality.
― keen reverberations of twee (collardio gelatinous), Friday, 16 February 2024 03:43 (two months ago) link
Because Brett Kavanaugh remained famously cool and collected at his hearing?
I'm not suggesting you support Kavanaugh in any way btw.
I'm suggesting there might be some bias in how men and women are perceived when they feel they are wrongfully accused and how constrained the tones we must use.
I think the ethics charges are bs. But there is this also this idea that prosecutors must be "purer than Caesar's wife" in avoiding even the appearance of impropriety.
There is an element of politics in it that it plays into cynical hands. I mean you don't want to encourage frivolous dq motions but yiu want public confidence in the process.
Xxxp
― felicity, Friday, 16 February 2024 03:44 (two months ago) link
^this
I keep thinking about the Kavanaugh hearings during all this.
― keen reverberations of twee (collardio gelatinous), Friday, 16 February 2024 03:46 (two months ago) link
Yes you said what I mean but better
― felicity, Friday, 16 February 2024 03:47 (two months ago) link
No! :-)
― keen reverberations of twee (collardio gelatinous), Friday, 16 February 2024 03:48 (two months ago) link
But Kavanaugh’s performance made him even less credible
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Friday, 16 February 2024 04:06 (two months ago) link
It was pretty roundly mocked as well
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Friday, 16 February 2024 04:07 (two months ago) link
And it made no difference
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 16 February 2024 04:13 (two months ago) link
Kavanaugh's audience wasn't a solitary judge, but a Republican controlled Senate who for their political safety were going to vote for his confirmation even if he'd started jumping up and down on the table screaming profanities at his Democratic questioners.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 16 February 2024 04:15 (two months ago) link
They’re not entirely comparable , and yet my mind juxtaposes them as telling panels of the national collage.
― keen reverberations of twee (collardio gelatinous), Friday, 16 February 2024 04:23 (two months ago) link
xp i believe i understand everyone's points re ms willis, and thanks for the patient splains. i continue to root for her strongly. i'm not disappointed, not my job, i am just sorta surprised. no gifts to those bastards pls.
― a single gunshot and polite applause (Hunt3r), Friday, 16 February 2024 04:28 (two months ago) link
It really is such Karening and "hey look over there" bullshit and should not be a thing.
― felicity, Friday, 16 February 2024 05:00 (two months ago) link
Trial level judges have seen a lot and will be more understanding. If the judge is good he should rule no disqualificatiom and just let them make their record for the appellate court to deal with.
― felicity, Friday, 16 February 2024 05:02 (two months ago) link
One can both think she shouldn't be disqualified and she did herself no favors (with her decisions on and off the stand).
Having a "romantic relationship" (in the parlance of the questioning) with a coworker, especially one that might arguably be classified as a direct report, is incredibly dumb, regardless of the situation. It might not blow up on you, but it very easily can.
I felt bad for her having to discuss some of these matters on the stand.
Of course the entire thing is completely cynical - Trump is a cornered, desperate animal willing to thrash anyone to break free.
― il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Friday, 16 February 2024 12:45 (two months ago) link
Yeah, I don't know what the HR department is like in the Fulton County court system, but at my job, we have to participate in a training every other year that drives this home.
― peace, man, Friday, 16 February 2024 14:15 (two months ago) link
I think this Judge (McAfee) has showed himself to be fair and averse to bullshit, so even if Willis was snippy, I think the Judge would probably give her the benefit of the doubt.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 16 February 2024 14:17 (two months ago) link
I agree the optics are not the best, but I don't know if I'd go so far as to say lawyers should never date coworkers. There are specific ethics rules around it. The Obamas met at work. Many lawyers I know met their SO at work.
Then again I live in LA and it's more culturally relaxed than NYC (ime)
― felicity, Friday, 16 February 2024 14:23 (two months ago) link
Oh, I know it goes on in the real world - all the time!. My wife works at a large firm and has partners who have married attorneys they met at work (who no longer work at the firm, thank god). It's just kind of a, to be crass, don't shit (fuck) where you eat situation, for me.
Obviously hope the judge does not disqualify her and she goes on to convict Trump for his obvious crimes.
― il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Friday, 16 February 2024 14:44 (two months ago) link
Day 2 of this nonsense about kicking off now
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Friday, 16 February 2024 14:47 (two months ago) link
That there is a Day 2 is ridiculous.
― il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Friday, 16 February 2024 14:49 (two months ago) link
to be fair, the judge did say up front that he expected the hearing to take two days, but it's ridiculous it's happening at all
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Friday, 16 February 2024 14:52 (two months ago) link
apologize in advance, this is mostly restatment of my prev, but my experience says that if you stay right with the judge, and you have not violated the law wrt conflicts, and she sounds clear from what i've read/heard, she should be fine. but stay right with the judge, no matter your justifiable fury. she is a pro, she knows this, i tend to think her steps are intentional here. i do not know her history with this judge or her opinion of this judge and i'm confident she has both, but counselor-- stay right with the judge here pls.
― a single gunshot and polite applause (Hunt3r), Friday, 16 February 2024 16:14 (two months ago) link
I think she may have previously been the judge's boss
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Friday, 16 February 2024 16:15 (two months ago) link
lol i stayed out of court but ppl who both know and are way better'n me always said "you get credibility with a judge one time only. don't fuck it up."
― a single gunshot and polite applause (Hunt3r), Friday, 16 February 2024 16:18 (two months ago) link
fani's dad is on the stand.
― scott seward, Friday, 16 February 2024 16:26 (two months ago) link
Willis’ father explains why he always keeps cash. pic.twitter.com/mnfYDAsyC5— Acyn (@Acyn) February 16, 2024
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 16 February 2024 17:25 (two months ago) link
It's notable that a couple things he said like "always keep 6 months worth of cash on hand" and the description of the safes he has in the house match exactly with Fani Willis' testimony. I don't think there can be any doubt that the way that both Wade and Willis described how she paid for everything in cash is true.
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Friday, 16 February 2024 17:37 (two months ago) link
BTW, the live chat on the Atlanta News First stream that I've been watching is an utterly insane non-stop flurry of racist comments, extremely ugly
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Friday, 16 February 2024 18:03 (two months ago) link
At the risk of sounding flip 1) are you surprised and 2) surely there's a way to watch without having to see anyone's chat
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 16 February 2024 18:16 (two months ago) link
It's only if you stream it on YouTube, and there is absolutely an option to hide the chat.
― peace, man, Friday, 16 February 2024 18:20 (two months ago) link
Totally forgot, isn't the Engoron decision coming today?
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 16 February 2024 19:56 (two months ago) link
Supposedly.
― Cow_Art, Friday, 16 February 2024 19:56 (two months ago) link
Judges tend to ignore their self-imposed deadlines if they become inconvenient. Or so I hear.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 16 February 2024 19:58 (two months ago) link
300+ million dollar fine in the NYC case
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 16 February 2024 20:03 (two months ago) link
370!
― I painted my teeth (sleeve), Friday, 16 February 2024 20:05 (two months ago) link
i havent been keeping a total all the money hes been ordered to pay but it seems like a lot
― lag∞n, Friday, 16 February 2024 20:08 (two months ago) link
He's going to have to look in the sofa cushions
Or send out a few more emails
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 16 February 2024 20:10 (two months ago) link
banned from new york for 3 years.
― scott seward, Friday, 16 February 2024 20:11 (two months ago) link
Should be a physical ban imo
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 16 February 2024 20:12 (two months ago) link
yeah, banned from doing business for 3 years. i guess he could still go catch a broadway show.
― scott seward, Friday, 16 February 2024 20:13 (two months ago) link
The former president denied any wrongdoing, calling the case "a fraud on me."
― lag∞n, Friday, 16 February 2024 20:13 (two months ago) link
President Diarrhea and his lick spittles consistently whine and moan about how he is being treated unfairly, unlawfully, the deep state is fucking him and real murricans over…
But if you, and only you, an individual participating in ILX who hates Pres Diarrhea and MAGS fuckheads and their cretinous culture with every fiber of your being, found out that there was indeed a deep state conspiracy, which uses unfair/unlawful means to prevent him from assuming the presidency again, would you approve of it? This would mean that he would be irrelevant going forward from now until the day he suffers a grotesque and painful malady resulting in his death. Would you be okay with him being rendered ineffective by completely illegal subterfuge?
― veronica moser, Friday, 16 February 2024 20:15 (two months ago) link
* lady gaga voice *
FRAUD. ON. ME.
― Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Friday, 16 February 2024 20:15 (two months ago) link
xp Yes, I believe I would.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 16 February 2024 20:16 (two months ago) link
Link with more
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/ny-fraud-case-damages-pay-millions-judge-engoron-rcna135283
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 16 February 2024 20:17 (two months ago) link
If I correctly understand what I just heard reported on MSNBC, the ruling bars Trump from obtaining any loans from any bank or business which is licensed to do business in New York state for a period of 3 years. That will totally screw over his ability to pay judgments against him without liquidating large amounts of his assets.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 16 February 2024 20:17 (two months ago) link
Oh darn!
Especially since IIRC if he wants to appeal he has to put up the amount fined within 30 days.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 16 February 2024 20:21 (two months ago) link
Would you be okay with him being rendered ineffective by completely illegal subterfuge?
Show me some illegal subterfuge and then I'll consider what it means to me.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 16 February 2024 20:21 (two months ago) link
Fraud on me vs Down on Me vs Crazy on on You...
Any word on whether he will ever actually pay anything out as a result of these fines/judgments/rulings?
I know that it is not good news for him, but I just want to make sure he suffers, instead of kicking the can down the road endlessly.
― fleetwood macrame (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 16 February 2024 20:22 (two months ago) link
With any luck, the stress will kill him.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 16 February 2024 20:23 (two months ago) link
of course not that's what the RNC is for
― frogbs, Friday, 16 February 2024 20:26 (two months ago) link
Further thought: It's interesting that all these cases and appeals and fines and civil judgments are being handled by his lawyers. Lawyers that he has no intention of paying, ever.
Motherfucker needs some goddamn consequences
― fleetwood macrame (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 16 February 2024 20:27 (two months ago) link
This, of course, will only cause his cult to rally around him even more fervently. Thus, this is Bad News For Joe Biden.
― Tahuti Watches L&O:SVU Reruns Without His Ape (unperson), Friday, 16 February 2024 20:27 (two months ago) link
"Fraud On Me" was R.E.M.'s best single to date imo
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 16 February 2024 20:27 (two months ago) link
greasy crappy people yelling chants
― CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Friday, 16 February 2024 20:31 (two months ago) link
^^ to the tune of "Shiny Happy People"
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 16 February 2024 20:32 (two months ago) link
― I painted my teeth (sleeve), Friday, 16 February 2024 20:35 (two months ago) link
We already guessed, Alfred
― B. Amato (Boring, Maryland), Friday, 16 February 2024 20:37 (two months ago) link
Any word on whether he will ever actually pay anything out as a result of these fines/judgments/rulings?of course not that's what the RNC is for― frogbs, Friday, February 16, 2024 3:26 PM (seven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
― frogbs, Friday, February 16, 2024 3:26 PM (seven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
https://www.yahoo.com/news/truth-trump-rnc-shakeup-why-094025392.html
"During a monumental election year for the GOP, Trump has effectively taken over the Republican National Committee, a bid to ensure that the national fundraising juggernaut will chiefly serve him, and not other Republican efforts."
I suppose the complete destruction of the GOP is a lot to hope for, but....
― Infanta Terrible (j.lu), Friday, 16 February 2024 20:39 (two months ago) link
his dumbass boys were fined 4 million each, and also banned from running things for 2 years.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 16 February 2024 20:44 (two months ago) link
Of course he's not beaten, yet, but this ruling strikes very hard at the foundations of his power and best of all, like the Carroll judgments, it isn't being conducted through the federal courts. So, may I be pardoned if just for this moment I pump my fist and shout WOO-HOOOOOO!
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 16 February 2024 20:44 (two months ago) link
right there with ya man
― I painted my teeth (sleeve), Friday, 16 February 2024 20:45 (two months ago) link
350 + 83 for the Jean Carrol case, is 433 million a lot
― a (waterface), Friday, 16 February 2024 20:47 (two months ago) link
but I thought he's rich
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 16 February 2024 20:54 (two months ago) link
So wait a minute, the thing about not doing business with any banks licensed to do business in NY…. that would be most (all?) major banks right?
― Cow_Art, Friday, 16 February 2024 20:55 (two months ago) link
If you think about it, there's no better way for him to prove his wealth than to just pay out, right?
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 16 February 2024 20:57 (two months ago) link
let's just say that the walls of his dining room are not safe from his next meal
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 16 February 2024 20:58 (two months ago) link
Every plate he throws at the wall will just be $5 less to sell on eBay.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 16 February 2024 20:59 (two months ago) link
would any of this have been investigated had he not decided to run for president?
― frogbs, Friday, 16 February 2024 20:59 (two months ago) link
Almost certainly not.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 16 February 2024 21:02 (two months ago) link
His pattern was buying off people who sued on the one hand and on the other trying to hide in plain sight in terms of his own dealings. He wanted the fame ticket, he got it, and here we are.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 16 February 2024 21:03 (two months ago) link
This may already be old news to US readers, but for this Britishes I found it a pretty useful summary of Trump's finances and his ability to pay out:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-68175846
― Ward Fowler, Friday, 16 February 2024 21:04 (two months ago) link
who gets to be the court-appointed monitor who has to look after all of Trump's finances in New York? that oughta be a fun job! maybe they give it to someone in nyc government as punishment.
― scott seward, Friday, 16 February 2024 21:25 (two months ago) link
i must have missed this but that monitor - a former judge - played a big role in the ruling today. proving that that Trump was just going to keep doing his lying thing.
https://abcnews.go.com/US/trump-organization-monitor-flags-errors-financial-misstatements-ahead/story?id=106737467
― scott seward, Friday, 16 February 2024 21:37 (two months ago) link
that would be most (all?) major banks right?
NY and London are the financial capitols of the world and any bank willing to grant an individual loan of that magnitude is almost certainly going to have a license to operate in NY. All this will become clearer as the ruling takes full effect. This won't destroy him, but it will hurt him in a very real way.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 16 February 2024 21:40 (two months ago) link
greasy crappy people yelling chantsbecause throwback hilarity/applause is whenever you get to it, i hereby entype this standing LOL
― a single gunshot and polite applause (Hunt3r), Friday, 16 February 2024 21:42 (two months ago) link
deutschebank you fuckin bitches, we’re waiting
― a single gunshot and polite applause (Hunt3r), Friday, 16 February 2024 21:43 (two months ago) link
You just know that from now to the day he dies, Trump will call NY Attorney General James several bad names every time he opens his mouth in public, and probably in private, too.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 16 February 2024 21:44 (two months ago) link
adjusting for inflation that's almost the entirety of his original inheritance, the poor fella. how unfair
― reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 16 February 2024 21:48 (two months ago) link
he had, like, zero dollars before he did his reality game show. he's just going back to his 90s roots of penniless grifter windbag who pretends to be rich.
― scott seward, Friday, 16 February 2024 21:57 (two months ago) link
ready for the NFT of him as a penniless hobo with fingerless gloves and a cigar stub
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 16 February 2024 22:08 (two months ago) link
I'll believe he's actually suffering financially the day I see the dumb ass huge "TRUMP" sign come off his tower here in Chicago.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 16 February 2024 22:28 (two months ago) link
Mitchell Epner's Bluesky reply thread starting here of interest in terms of the likelihood of the appeals going anywhere. (In sum, small.) C/P for ease:
1. Trump can appeal without posting security, but that would allow immediate enforcement of the judgments (ie - seizing over $400M in disgorgement and interest. If he wants to stay enforcement, he will have to put up cash or a supersedeas bond in the full amount (including accrued interest).2. The three year ban would run from the day that it was first imposed. If the trial court (or appellate division) stays enforcement of the ban on serving as an officer/director of a NY Corp pending appeal, then the 3 year ban would only start when the stay was lifted.3. In a bench trial, the Court's findings of fact are given full deference & can only be overturned on a finding of "clear error". On my initial read, Justice Engoron did a thorough job supporting his factual conclusions, including making credibility judgments that are NEVER reversed on appeal.4. On p.6, Justice Engoron to care to appeal-proof his fact finding: "This Court listened carefully to every witness, every question, every answer. Witnesses testified from the witness stand, approximately a yard from the Court, who was thus able to observe expressions, demeanor, and body language."
2. The three year ban would run from the day that it was first imposed. If the trial court (or appellate division) stays enforcement of the ban on serving as an officer/director of a NY Corp pending appeal, then the 3 year ban would only start when the stay was lifted.
3. In a bench trial, the Court's findings of fact are given full deference & can only be overturned on a finding of "clear error". On my initial read, Justice Engoron did a thorough job supporting his factual conclusions, including making credibility judgments that are NEVER reversed on appeal.
4. On p.6, Justice Engoron to care to appeal-proof his fact finding: "This Court listened carefully to every witness, every question, every answer. Witnesses testified from the witness stand, approximately a yard from the Court, who was thus able to observe expressions, demeanor, and body language."
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 16 February 2024 22:31 (two months ago) link
So basically Trump wants to appeal, his lawyers are playing along, but they also know they're fucked (whether Trump knows, frankly that's an open question at this point!)
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 16 February 2024 22:34 (two months ago) link
i still can't get over the chutzpah of continuing to go after hunter biden for trading on his father's name when lara trump was just appointed co-chair of the RNC while the DOJ indicted the star witness against hunter biden. and that's nowhere near the top ten most consequential things surrounding these trump republicans in the past three days
― reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 16 February 2024 22:37 (two months ago) link
Via WaPo:
Donald Trump’s campaign is trying to raise money off the judgment against him in the civil fraud case. “DEMOCRAT JUDGE JUST RULED AGAINST ME!” Trump wrote in a text message, seeking donations. He added, “We need a MASSIVE PEACEFUL PUSHBACK right here, right now.”
Roffle at the 'peaceful' bit, which of course he's had to do plenty of times now in the past few years.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 16 February 2024 22:40 (two months ago) link
I dunno, I'm starting to lean classic.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 16 February 2024 22:48 (two months ago) link
has there ever been anything like him? i guess only actual panamanian strongmen. or al capone or something.
― scott seward, Friday, 16 February 2024 22:50 (two months ago) link
P.T. Barnum, maybe? But Barnum surely was much smarter.
Don King?
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 16 February 2024 22:53 (two months ago) link
this is my favorite historical comparison
https://historynewsnetwork.org/article/169159
― reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 16 February 2024 22:53 (two months ago) link
Oh, yeah, I also thought of Commodus.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 16 February 2024 22:54 (two months ago) link
i guess if huey long had lived and become president we would have seen something similarly bizarre.
― scott seward, Friday, 16 February 2024 22:55 (two months ago) link
AG James is rubbing it in live right now. gotcha, asshole!
― scott seward, Friday, 16 February 2024 23:01 (two months ago) link
Injecting that Schadenfreude directly into my veins.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 16 February 2024 23:03 (two months ago) link
Jeffrey Clark's disciplinary proceeding in DC continues not to go well for him and his X timeline is positively deranged.
Just a snippet from last fall:
The committee rejected the motion two days after it was entered, writing that Clark "has continually misrepresented [the] disciplinary counsel's theory of the case to manufacture imaginary defenses."
― felicity, Friday, 16 February 2024 23:08 (two months ago) link
Is it a parody account? I cannot tell.
― felicity, Friday, 16 February 2024 23:11 (two months ago) link
I've said this more than once in this thread, but I am still amazed by Trump's ability to get people to immolate themselves for him. It's as though he taps into their secret desire for power, celebrity or recognition, gives them a little taste, then discards them when they have ceased to be of use. And at this point, everyone who gets on board the Trump Train knows they are going to be thrown off at some point.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 16 February 2024 23:13 (two months ago) link
Does Dancing With The Stars pay a lot? I assume people trip over themselves to join the Trump team in order to set up some kind of eventual reality TV payoff.
― henry s, Friday, 16 February 2024 23:19 (two months ago) link
do you know what's going to be really sad? that first time that eric trump goes into a new york bank and reaches for the basket of lollipops and they slap his hand away. that's going to sting the most.
― scott seward, Friday, 16 February 2024 23:53 (two months ago) link
― Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 16 February 2024 23:55 (two months ago) link
And at this point, everyone who gets on board the Trump Train knows they are going to be thrown off at some point.
I can't help but think many of them are convinced that *they'll* be the one to come out on top.
― nickn, Saturday, 17 February 2024 00:40 (two months ago) link
tbf cozying up to powerful people is usually a pretty good plan
― lag∞n, Saturday, 17 February 2024 00:50 (two months ago) link
Trump wants to appeal, his lawyers are playing along
I have probably said this, but it remains moderately amusing that he is probably never going to pay any of his lawyers.
― fleetwood macrame (Ye Mad Puffin), Saturday, 17 February 2024 00:57 (two months ago) link
suspect theyre demanding the money up front at this point
― lag∞n, Saturday, 17 February 2024 01:02 (two months ago) link
Supposedly Kise demanded 3 million up front. Smart.
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 17 February 2024 01:03 (two months ago) link
Trump's not going to pay his lawyers but his donors are.
In 2023, Trump spent $54.2 million raised almost exclusively from donors who gave $5 or $20 or $50 a month ― a vast number of them retirees ― to pay lawyers defending the former president in the various civil and criminal cases, a HuffPost analysis of Federal Election Commission filings found.
― visiting, Saturday, 17 February 2024 01:14 (two months ago) link
― a (waterface), Friday, February 16, 2024 3:47 PM (four hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
I think Musk will pay off 13 million so Trump will only owe…
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Saturday, 17 February 2024 01:24 (two months ago) link
I'm so tired about caring about this man.
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 17 February 2024 03:05 (two months ago) link
Truth.
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 17 February 2024 03:30 (two months ago) link
I remember thinking, in (say) December 2020, “soon I won’t have to ever think about this asshole or his family again.”
― Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Saturday, 17 February 2024 03:32 (two months ago) link
He's the stinking fish that keeps being delivered to our doorsteps by the Republican Party and our many compassion-impaired compatriots.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Saturday, 17 February 2024 03:41 (two months ago) link
https://bsky.app/profile/ygalanter.bsky.social/post/3klnhhpxe7o27
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Saturday, 17 February 2024 22:36 (two months ago) link
“Bold, gold, and tough, just like President Trump.”
What’s the matter, no rhyme for orange?
I just can’t even with his grifts anymore. But I’m not the audience; they’re sold out already.
― Requiem for a Dream: The Musical! (Dan Peterson), Sunday, 18 February 2024 00:00 (two months ago) link
https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_fullsize/plain/did:plc:ccrabc6xdnjx4l7btvynnng4/bafkreiaqiqtykzfopfucdm4nb4h67nnmocui5x7fmmvyvc4z32ctotwx7e@jpeg
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 18 February 2024 00:26 (two months ago) link
saucy!
― I painted my teeth (sleeve), Sunday, 18 February 2024 00:33 (two months ago) link
Somebody at last is allowing their underling to get drunk at happy hour and post on the job.
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 18 February 2024 00:49 (two months ago) link
The future of Trump's gold shoes? Everything old becomes new again!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OM3Z_Kskl_U
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Sunday, 18 February 2024 00:54 (two months ago) link
not a yuge surprise, but...
Donald Trump ranked as worst US president in history, with Joe Biden 14th
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/feb/20/presidents-ranking-trump-biden-list
― Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 20 February 2024 20:00 (two months ago) link
yeah, questioning the election results and inciting an insurrection really sunk him from a Harding/A. Johnson type of corrupt horrible president to sub-Buchanan levels
― c u (crüt), Tuesday, 20 February 2024 20:16 (two months ago) link
Direct link to the list: http://www.brandonrottinghaus.com/uploads/1/0/8/7/108798321/presidential_greatness_white_paper_2024.pdf
Some of the worst stinkers:
29 Hayes 30 Garfield 31 Harrison 32 GW Bush 33 Arthur 34 Coolidge 35 Nixon 36 Hoover 37 Tyler 38 Taylor 39 Fillmore 40 Harding 41 Harrison 42 Pierce 43 A. Johnson 44 Buchanan 45 Trump
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 20 February 2024 20:20 (two months ago) link
So gratifying to watch Jackson earn the ignominy he long deserved.
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 20 February 2024 20:26 (two months ago) link
GW Bush way too high, for all his faults Trump didn't murder over a million Iraqis
― This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 20 February 2024 20:32 (two months ago) link
But he did nominate judges and justices who will hurt or kill millions of American women.
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 20 February 2024 20:33 (two months ago) link
45 means 45
― nashwan, Tuesday, 20 February 2024 20:59 (two months ago) link
lmao at everyone below Harrison, how badly do you have to fuck up to be worse than the the guy who immediately contracted pneumonia and died at the start of his presidency
― Cemetry Gaetz (DJP), Tuesday, 20 February 2024 21:01 (two months ago) link
If he becomes 47 too does he get two bottom spots?
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Tuesday, 20 February 2024 21:01 (two months ago) link
Doughfaces like Pierce and Buchanan who licked the pro-slavery contingent every chance they got; racists like Andrew Johnson who vetoed every Reconstruction bill. xpost
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 20 February 2024 21:02 (two months ago) link
I know why they are there, I am laughing at them for being unable to surmount the presumably low bar of “died almost immediately upon assuming office”
― Cemetry Gaetz (DJP), Tuesday, 20 February 2024 21:04 (two months ago) link
yeah but what an inauguration
― omar little, Tuesday, 20 February 2024 21:09 (two months ago) link
can't do much damage when yer dead
― Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 20 February 2024 21:09 (two months ago) link
Many presidents' standings would be improved by dying in the first weeks of their term.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 20 February 2024 21:14 (two months ago) link
https://staticg.sportskeeda.com/editor/2024/02/b13ba-17083340778260-1920.jpg
I’m genuinely surprised how people close to Trump haven’t talked about the odor.It’s truly something to behold. Wear a mask if you can— Adam Kinzinger (Slava Ukraini) 🇺🇸🇺🇦🇮🇱 (@AdamKinzinger) December 16, 2023
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 20 February 2024 21:14 (two months ago) link
GW Bush way too high, for all his faults Trump didn't murder over a million Iraqis― This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, February 20, 2024 12:32 PM (forty minutes ago) bookmarkflaglinkBut he did nominate judges and justices who will hurt or kill millions of American women.― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, February 20, 2024 12:33 PM (thirty-nine minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
― This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, February 20, 2024 12:32 PM (forty minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, February 20, 2024 12:33 PM (thirty-nine minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
Alfred, I adore you, but this seems an inadvertent diminution of one of the worst tragedies to take place in our lifetimes.
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Tuesday, 20 February 2024 21:17 (two months ago) link
xpost it's like diarrhea mixed with milk chocolate, but the chocolate was from 1987
― CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 20 February 2024 21:18 (two months ago) link
I once read a historian describe Pierce as a functionally illiterate alcoholic.
― B. Amato (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 20 February 2024 21:18 (two months ago) link
They misspelled "Eau de Parm" on that cologne. Or maybe "Eau de Farm"? Maybe a mix of both.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 20 February 2024 21:25 (two months ago) link
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), T
dude, it's a race to the bottom. I've yelled at more people who say "Bush wasn't so bad" than you will care to know. I'll never forgive him for Iraq. And it's no stretch to argue that in the coming years that one-term Trump administration will have killed more people.
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 20 February 2024 21:47 (two months ago) link
But a Stalin v. Hitler body count battle isn't a scrimmage so I'll stop here.
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 20 February 2024 21:48 (two months ago) link
Pierce and Buchanan's policies precipitated if not caused a civil war. Andrew Johnson acted as if the freedmen didn't exist. Bush and Trump (and Reagan and Poppy) found novel ways to demonstrate our imperialism and racism, respectively.
https://i.imgur.com/sdG2onM.jpg
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 20 February 2024 21:52 (two months ago) link
W gave us Alito so he can eat shit on that count too
― rob, Tuesday, 20 February 2024 22:05 (two months ago) link
putting harrison #1 wouldve been the way to go
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 20 February 2024 22:07 (two months ago) link
lol, but WHH owned slaves, which ya know really should be considered more of a minus in these rankings imho (ayo George Washington)
― rob, Tuesday, 20 February 2024 22:10 (two months ago) link
at least Washington freed them
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 20 February 2024 22:15 (two months ago) link
After he died, and they were to be free after his wife died.
― B. Amato (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 20 February 2024 22:22 (two months ago) link
Exactly
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 20 February 2024 22:23 (two months ago) link
it's true that none of the other slave-owning presidents did even that, but I mean...owning 250 human beings is owning 250 human beings (not to mention pursuing one who managed to escape), it should at least be considered a demerit is all I'm saying, esp if the #1 is Lincoln
― rob, Tuesday, 20 February 2024 22:33 (two months ago) link
just clicked over to the nyt and they have a good piece on Hercules Posey who was Washington's enslaved chef (gift link): https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/20/dining/hercules-posey-george-washington-chef.html?unlocked_article_code=1.W00.GG90.2lbPs8950etY&smid=url-share
― rob, Tuesday, 20 February 2024 23:05 (two months ago) link
Yeah, but did he invent ice cream? Advantage: James Hemings, brother of Sally. That's why Jefferson is top 5.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 20 February 2024 23:16 (two months ago) link
I am not sure it needs to be a competition. Ruling people in those times were, generally, bad. Ruling people before then were also not great. Ruling people now? Um, some of them remain quite unpleasant.
I totally understand that there is a hierarchy - slavery and genocide are worse than (for example) securities fraud. But I am not aware of any public figures who can be described as flawless.
― alpaca lips now (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 00:09 (one month ago) link
I am not sure it needs to be a competition.
Too late, it already is, and Trump is the worst of all time!
― Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 21 February 2024 00:18 (one month ago) link
― B. Amato (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 00:24 (one month ago) link
Mitchell Epner shared this read from David Cay, who Epner describes as someone "who has been following Trump's finances for decades," and it's worth a gander.
https://www.dcreport.org/2024/02/19/trumps-legal-delay-tactics-will-lead-to-further-self-destruction/
Epner himself is skeptical, saying:
Even if Trump can't raise the funds to deposit with the courts, he can appeal - it just doesn't stay enforcement. If he appeals but does not post the $, it would put the onus on E. Jean Carroll and/or the NYAG to seek to enforce the judgments. That process would be ugly for Trump, but it would allow him to play to the MAGA masses. A personal bankruptcy filing strikes at his core identity. It also would open Trump up to extremely invasive discovery to find his assets and liabilities. The only thing that I know *for certain* about the future is that it has not happened yet, so Mr. Johnson's prediction may be proven accurate.We will see.
The only thing that I know *for certain* about the future is that it has not happened yet, so Mr. Johnson's prediction may be proven accurate.
We will see.
I lean Epner but then again, this is a scenario Trump has never wanted, and here he is.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 21 February 2024 00:36 (one month ago) link
xxp, I'm glad Obama ranks in the top 10 in that poll. I think he is still the best president of my lifetime, for being the originator of Obamacare if for nothing else.
But he was also essentially scandal-free and was someone who really understood what he could achieve - the limitations that were imposed on him by society and government - and was nevertheless able to lead us into the future without mishap
If new presidents are often the opposite of the last presidents, that swing was never as wide as after his 8 years
― Dan S, Wednesday, 21 February 2024 01:06 (one month ago) link
obama middling at best
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 21 February 2024 01:09 (one month ago) link
maybe not at best obama solidly middling
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 21 February 2024 01:10 (one month ago) link
― Dan S, Tuesday, February 20, 2024 8:06 PM (five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
as evidenced by the arguments that fans of his make
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 21 February 2024 01:14 (one month ago) link
whatever, wish I hadn't posted
― Dan S, Wednesday, 21 February 2024 01:17 (one month ago) link
cmon that wasnt that bad
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 21 February 2024 01:21 (one month ago) link
I've got friends who can get dialyses and health care thanks to Obamacare, which has the highest enrollment in the country in the reddest parts of Miami-Dade, so he's automatically better than Bill Clinton. So he ranks high among the sociopaths in this bunch; he killed American citizens and their children with drones vs. FDR and his internment camps, which is why I have no heroes
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 01:21 (one month ago) link
Obama was the best president of my life so far. I was born during the Johnson administration, so you might say that's slim pickings, but still.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 01:22 (one month ago) link
― Dan S,
Your post was fine. It's better than if you'd triggered one of us in the ILX film threads with praise of Oppenheimer.
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 01:22 (one month ago) link
oppenheimer was so bad, much worse than obama
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 21 February 2024 01:26 (one month ago) link
― I painted my teeth (sleeve), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 01:27 (one month ago) link
Oppenheimer’s fans are certainly more annoying than Obama’s fans
― Rich E. (Eric H.), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 01:29 (one month ago) link
johnson was maybe better than obama, carter maybe too, biden before the whole genocide situation, tho to obamas credit he did win twice which is certainly isnt nothing, clinton won too tho, kind interesting to consider them the bookmarks of dem neoliberalism
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 21 February 2024 01:30 (one month ago) link
"Oppenheimer showed us how Americans can achieve great things when they dare to dream big."
- Barack Obama
― omar little, Wednesday, 21 February 2024 01:31 (one month ago) link
Carter nominated some of the first female judges, kept Israel and Egypt from overtly killing each other, and...what else? He fought against full employment, was no fan of unions, brought the shah to America -- some vile shit.
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 01:33 (one month ago) link
Honestly, the ACA is responsible for me staying alive and remotely solvent. I am not the biggest fan of Obama, but I know to give credit where credit’s due.
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 01:41 (one month ago) link
he inspired the classic song i cant drive 5 by sammy the red rocker hagar xp
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 21 February 2024 01:44 (one month ago) link
I'd be approx $500 poorer every month without Obamacare, table otm. it's not as good as a real single payer system but it's a band-aid that actually helps.
― I painted my teeth (sleeve), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 01:50 (one month ago) link
All this Carter talk has made me wanna blast David Sylvian brb
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 01:52 (one month ago) link
obamacare obamacare is pretty weak sauce forget about single payer it was pretty lame for what it was even and a bunch of it has predictably been rolled back since but tbf it was an improvement over the status quo for sure tho not good from the opportunity cost pov, however the best thing he did in his presidency was expand medicare as part of obamacare
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 21 February 2024 01:57 (one month ago) link
*for states that accepted the money haha america gotta love it
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 21 February 2024 01:58 (one month ago) link
Obama is a 70’s Republican. He lost every ounce of credibility he had within months of entering the Oval Office, and he just got worse
― beamish13, Wednesday, 21 February 2024 03:11 (one month ago) link
Obamacare was amazing for the insurance companies that OK’ed every line of it. America’s only hope of ever having single payer is states doing it one by one, and I do think Gen Z is pissed off enough to demand it. That, or WWIII will end everything
― beamish13, Wednesday, 21 February 2024 03:13 (one month ago) link
Carter also got the ball rolling on genocide in Nicaragua, which Reagan gets much of the brunt for nowadays. He had the same bullshit foreign policies as every other POTUS.
But, hey, he does book signings in grocery stores and put up solar panels
― beamish13, Wednesday, 21 February 2024 03:14 (one month ago) link
was nevertheless able to lead us into the future without mishaphow did that future work out, I can’t remember
― bae (sic), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 03:35 (one month ago) link
Carter doing better out of office puts him ahead of every other president I know of tbf
― bae (sic), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 03:37 (one month ago) link
Anybody who runs for President and wins is the worst President
― CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 11:58 (one month ago) link
Obama went on the Daily Show and John Stewart called him "timid" to his face.
I was initially skeptical about Obama (during the primary campaign, I thought he overpromised) but I do think he did some good things in spite of massive headwinds.
Has everyone somehow forgotten how much Republican obstruction he had to overcome?
It's like, yeah, why are you not able to achieve unprecedented groundbreaking political miracles in spite of massive racist resistance = you suck.
― alpaca lips now (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 13:04 (one month ago) link
Republicans are so racist they're *still* running against Obama. And not even his policies, really, the very *idea* of Obama. You want reactionary, Trump originally ran and has always been more or less an explicitly anti-Obama reactionary, in as much as he has any consistent beliefs.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 21 February 2024 13:09 (one month ago) link
Back when I first realised that the GOP were working to obstruct Obama, I called it ‘cold civil war’ and nothing that has happened since 2008 in American political life can persuade me that I was wrong.
― steely flan (suzy), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 13:10 (one month ago) link
Seriously. Literally refusing to allow Obama to appoint a Supreme Justice might be the most audacious political act of my lifetime.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 21 February 2024 13:18 (one month ago) link
democrats always getting obstructed by those nasty republicans whatre you gonna do you know its unfortunate how theres always nothing they can do
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 21 February 2024 13:48 (one month ago) link
the filibuster seems more and more like a convenient crutch to give them an out from legislating
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 13:51 (one month ago) link
democrats are born to lose, just playing their role
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 21 February 2024 13:52 (one month ago) link
The general anti-government, anti-tax, "party of no" grievance shit was already present in the Newt era. But having a Black president pressed the accelerator.
CSA / Jim Crow / Contract With America / Tea Party / Limbaugh / Fox / MAGA bullshit... all a continuation of previously existing bullshit, but it's still odious.
And I don't see a lot of solutions except the stuff most of us are already doing.
― alpaca lips now (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 13:56 (one month ago) link
how much of this could have been avoided if you hadn't given the south control of the narrative as a consolation prize?
― Left, Wednesday, 21 February 2024 14:00 (one month ago) link
how much of this couldve been avoid if democrats actions werent such that they receive multimillion dollar payouts from wall street immediately upon leaving office
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 21 February 2024 14:03 (one month ago) link
The thing to do is blow up the part of West Virginia where Joe Manchin and his boat hang out.
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 14:17 (one month ago) link
without manchin someone else will just have to play the role
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 21 February 2024 14:23 (one month ago) link
Right, I think the Manchin is helping to provide cover to other senators who are not comfortable with losing the filibuster.
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 14:28 (one month ago) link
also just the legislation he was blocking was stuff that for sure at least a handful of other dems were probably not enthusiastic about
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 21 February 2024 14:30 (one month ago) link
Right.
At any rate he and the seat are gone in November, so the Dems will find another Trojan horse.
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 14:39 (one month ago) link
hey I didn't know anything about James Hemings until today*, so thanks Donald Trump thread Josh!
* pedantic note: saying he "invented" ice cream is not accurate—it had existed for thousands of years before he was born—but he did introduce it, macaroni and cheese, french fries, and a bunch of other French dishes to the US
― rob, Wednesday, 21 February 2024 14:45 (one month ago) link
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, February 21, 2024 9:39 AM (six minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
theres a term for it i was trying to google it only turned up heat shield but i dont think thats it
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 21 February 2024 14:47 (one month ago) link
I think Jefferson/Hemings are credited with popularizing it in America, that's why he gets a lot of credit. This is a good history:
https://www.monticello.org/research-education/thomas-jefferson-encyclopedia/ice-cream/
A little later another Black White House chef, Augustus Jackson, is credited with modernizing it in the US:
Jackson worked in the White House, too, as a chef for the First families, including James and Dolley Madison. (Apparently, the First Lady had eclectic taste that included ice cream studded with oysters.) After his tenure, he launched an ice cream business in Philadelphia, where many other Black pastry chefs and confectioners specialized in ice cream. One of Jackson’s big innovations was making ice cream more stable by adding salt to the recipe, which lowers the freezing temperature. It also enhances other flavors. But that’s not all that Jackson did for ice cream.While most early ice creams were frozen egg custards, Jackson developed a lighter kind of ice cream. “It was this eggless, uniquely American style,” Hopkins says. “And at some point, we made an industry out of it.” Jackson is the reason why many ice cream recipes now do not have eggs.Jackson prospered by selling his ice cream to parlors and ice cream vendors in Philadelphia who were predominantly Black. And as Black ice cream entrepreneurs moved north during The Great Migration, as Hopkins’ podcast details, they spread ice cream culture.
One of Jackson’s big innovations was making ice cream more stable by adding salt to the recipe, which lowers the freezing temperature. It also enhances other flavors. But that’s not all that Jackson did for ice cream.
While most early ice creams were frozen egg custards, Jackson developed a lighter kind of ice cream. “It was this eggless, uniquely American style,” Hopkins says. “And at some point, we made an industry out of it.” Jackson is the reason why many ice cream recipes now do not have eggs.
Jackson prospered by selling his ice cream to parlors and ice cream vendors in Philadelphia who were predominantly Black. And as Black ice cream entrepreneurs moved north during The Great Migration, as Hopkins’ podcast details, they spread ice cream culture.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 21 February 2024 14:58 (one month ago) link
the First Lady had eclectic taste that included ice cream studded with oyster
baller move
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 15:03 (one month ago) link
At any rate he and the seat are gone in November, so the Dems will find another Trojan horse
That being once again being the minority party in the Senate, no?
― Rich E. (Eric H.), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 15:05 (one month ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ut6MSMqxmlE
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 21 February 2024 15:05 (one month ago) link
ah yeah I read about Jackson too! Super interesting history
trenchant thought: historians should stop doings surveys on which slaveowning aristocrat and/or war criminal presidents had the best vibes, and start telling us about the history of mac and cheese
― rob, Wednesday, 21 February 2024 15:10 (one month ago) link
Does any other nation have such a robust canonical survey mechanism for ranking their own heads of state?
― Rich E. (Eric H.), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 15:11 (one month ago) link
Of course not -- we are, to quote Agnew, the greatest country in the history of the nation.
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 15:13 (one month ago) link
need to be ranking byzantine emperors instead, this guy went to harvard and sat on the boards of weapons manufactures after he left office who cares, lets talk about guys who had their step mothers blinded and sent to nunneries
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 21 February 2024 15:15 (one month ago) link
Yeah holding the Senate seems like mostly a lost cause. I got a lil shiver the other day at the prospect of waking up in November with Republicans actually in charge of everything, which is clearly a non-zero possibility. I do think the Dems will take back the House, but who knows.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 15:20 (one month ago) link
Talk about the nanny state
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 16:09 (one month ago) link
what was he driving, a lawnmower?
― CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 16:12 (one month ago) link
nah even that would get higher than 5
Maybe drunk driving an electric wheelchair around Cabo Wabo
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 16:14 (one month ago) link
french fries, and a bunch of other French dishes
But not, apparently, French dressing.
Anyway back to the most important topic - which is, of course, ice cream.
There was a 19th century custom where you got a glass container called a penny lick; they were intentionally designed to look more full of ice cream than they actually were. Generally I think you were supposed to return them.
Sometimes (apparently) a boy would follow you to retrieve the cup.
St. Louisans sometimes claim that the ice cream cone was invented for the 1904 World's Fair. Which is not quite right, but some St. Louisans just can't ever shut up about the Fair. There are some good things about that city, but. If I had peaked 120 years ago? I might start looking for new things to talk about.
― alpaca lips now (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 16:44 (one month ago) link
Yeah the World's Fair story is Italo Marchiony erasure: https://www.idfa.org/the-history-of-the-ice-cream-cone
(I was just reading about the history of ice cream cone production for work-related reasons not long ago.)
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 16:57 (one month ago) link
Yes, waffles already existed, and pastry-based cones are an ancient concept.
Trying to swerve back to the topic, Donald Trump likes McDonald's and McDonald's prefers to sell its ice cream-esque products in cups, rather than cones. Their milkshakes contain algae, and they seem to have stopped including a maraschino cherry. I choose to blame Donald Trump.
― alpaca lips now (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 17:14 (one month ago) link
those milkshakes bring all the puke to my mouth
― CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 17:21 (one month ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QI-xhtOhvGg
Conspiring with Grimace on his deadly milkshakes
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 17:24 (one month ago) link
McDonald's makes concrete milkshakes to throw at cops, boycott this woke corporation
― CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 17:29 (one month ago) link
McDonald's prefers to sell its ice cream-esque products in cups, rather than cones… and they seem to have stopped including a maraschino cherry.I haven’t been inside a McDonalds since the 20th century, but turns out I still have the capacity to find their regional variations fascinating
― bae (sic), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 17:46 (one month ago) link
idk if they still do but I've been inside at least one McDonald's in Miami that has their own version of a Cuban sandwich.
it was, however, dogshit. i don't even think they used the right bread
― CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 17:47 (one month ago) link
So you were not...
Lovin' it?
― alpaca lips now (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 17:48 (one month ago) link
Any time I've been in a McDonald's recently there's been a fight
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 17:57 (one month ago) link
Who have you been fighting?
― Cemetry Gaetz (DJP), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 18:13 (one month ago) link
Hamas
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 18:14 (one month ago) link
It's pronounced "HAM-bur-gers"
― Rich E. (Eric H.), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 18:32 (one month ago) link
clam chowdare
― CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 18:33 (one month ago) link
“Americans can expect that immediately upon President Trump’s return to the Oval Office, he will restore all of his prior policies, implement brand new crackdowns that will send shock waves to all the world’s criminal smugglers, and marshal every federal and state power necessary to institute the largest deportation operation in American history,” said Trump campaign spokeswoman Karoline Leavitt…she seems nicehttps://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/02/20/trump-mass-deportations-immigration/
― a single gunshot and polite applause (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 18:57 (one month ago) link
will they use cattle cars?
― Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 21 February 2024 18:59 (one month ago) link
What are the odds on Kyle Rittenhouse being in the administration?
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 19:08 (one month ago) link
In the Department of Street Justice
― Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 21 February 2024 19:09 (one month ago) link
I mean, of course he’ll have a seat at the table.
― Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 19:15 (one month ago) link
Would love it if Kyle was ground into street tacos #onethread
― CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 19:18 (one month ago) link
"Tastes like freedom!"
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 19:33 (one month ago) link
serve him w/ freedom fries on a freedom bun
― CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 19:34 (one month ago) link
leavitt out
― close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 19:36 (one month ago) link
https://es.rollingstone.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/12/cckr.jpg
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 19:38 (one month ago) link
^^ wtf is that?!?
― tobo73, Wednesday, 21 February 2024 20:32 (one month ago) link
Not really up on him these days, but I stopped on Jimmy Kimmel last night and he was showing a clip of Trump selling shoes recently at "Sneaker Con." Truly, truly bizarre--maybe this was discussed already.
― clemenza, Wednesday, 21 February 2024 20:39 (one month ago) link
he was booed at SneakerCon, but also applauded.. sneaker fans are a mixed batch
― Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 21 February 2024 20:40 (one month ago) link
It's the politics of the sneaker gimps.
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 20:47 (one month ago) link
He'd have done better if he'd made Velcro versions of the sneakers and sold them in The Villages.
― Tahuti Watches L&O:SVU Reruns Without His Ape (unperson), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 20:47 (one month ago) link
Yes, Newsweek is now a right-wing trash fire squatting on a once-worthwhile domain, but this is still pretty funny:
Donald Trump Wants to Negotiate with Judge Engoron
Donald Trump's attorney requested to propose a new judgment on Wednesday in the former president's civil fraud trial ruling, in which Judge Arthur Engoron ruled that Trump will be fined roughly $355 million.Context:In a lawsuit filed in September 2022, New York Attorney General Letitia James accused Trump, his two adult sons Donald Jr. and Eric, The Trump Organization and two firm executives, Allen Weisselberg and Jeff McConney, of fraudulently overvaluing assets to secure more favorable bank loans and taxation deals.On Friday, Engoron ruled that Trump will be fined roughly $355 million and barred from doing business in New York for three years after a monthslong civil trial from late last year into early January. The trial was to decide the damages Trump would face after Engoron found that he committed fraud by inflating the value of his assets. The other defendants in the case have also faced financial penalties and been barred from doing business in New York for periods of time.Trump, the current GOP frontrunner in the 2024 presidential election, has maintained his innocence in the case and claimed it was politically motivated.On Wednesday, Clifford Robert filed a letter in the New York City civil court addressed to Engoron which argues Trump was "deprived" of the chance to speak out against the ruling before it was filed.According to court records, Roberts requested the chance to propose a "counter-judgment" to Engoron's ruling, adding that it would be "contrary to fundamental fairness" if not allowed to submit a counter-judgment."Defendants therefore request that the Court set a return date for the Proposed Judgment that affords Defendants sufficient time to submit a proposed counter-judgment. To deprive Defendants of the opportunity to submit a proposed counter-judgment would be contrary to fundamental fairness and due process."
Context:In a lawsuit filed in September 2022, New York Attorney General Letitia James accused Trump, his two adult sons Donald Jr. and Eric, The Trump Organization and two firm executives, Allen Weisselberg and Jeff McConney, of fraudulently overvaluing assets to secure more favorable bank loans and taxation deals.
On Friday, Engoron ruled that Trump will be fined roughly $355 million and barred from doing business in New York for three years after a monthslong civil trial from late last year into early January. The trial was to decide the damages Trump would face after Engoron found that he committed fraud by inflating the value of his assets. The other defendants in the case have also faced financial penalties and been barred from doing business in New York for periods of time.
Trump, the current GOP frontrunner in the 2024 presidential election, has maintained his innocence in the case and claimed it was politically motivated.
On Wednesday, Clifford Robert filed a letter in the New York City civil court addressed to Engoron which argues Trump was "deprived" of the chance to speak out against the ruling before it was filed.
According to court records, Roberts requested the chance to propose a "counter-judgment" to Engoron's ruling, adding that it would be "contrary to fundamental fairness" if not allowed to submit a counter-judgment.
"Defendants therefore request that the Court set a return date for the Proposed Judgment that affords Defendants sufficient time to submit a proposed counter-judgment. To deprive Defendants of the opportunity to submit a proposed counter-judgment would be contrary to fundamental fairness and due process."
― Tahuti Watches L&O:SVU Reruns Without His Ape (unperson), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 20:56 (one month ago) link
― tobo73, Wednesday, February 21, 2024 3:32 PM (twenty-two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
Authorities in Argentina this week raided a cultural center named after Kyle Rittenhouse—the American teen known for shooting three people, two fatally, during a Black Lives Matter protest.
Police confiscated an 83-millimeter mortar shell from the center’s building in La Plata, about an hour outside of Buenos Aires, La Nacion reported, adding that the police planned to destroy the shell. It’s unclear if Rittenhouse is aware of the cultural center or has any ties to it. Attempts to reach him through social media and his former attorney were unsuccessful.
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 20:59 (one month ago) link
the clips in this monologue are all completely bonkers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52xuwD_xx0s
― scott seward, Wednesday, 21 February 2024 21:27 (one month ago) link
all completely bonkers and just meh-average for the man who suggested drinking bleach or exposing the inside of the human body to the sun would make good covid cures.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 22:27 (one month ago) link
What about the woman at 10:00? Even Trump looked a little perplexed for a few seconds.
― clemenza, Thursday, 22 February 2024 01:48 (one month ago) link
ok I admit Eric on the verge of tears saying "My father built the NYC skyline...and this is how they repay him??" was very funny
― frogbs, Thursday, 22 February 2024 01:53 (one month ago) link
Calling this guy energon per transformers law.
https://bsky.app/profile/mtsw.bsky.social/post/3klzk5txou22f
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 22 February 2024 18:25 (one month ago) link
xp - who can forget that iconic photo of a young Donny sitting next to his lunch pail on the steel beam 40 stories up?
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 22 February 2024 18:35 (one month ago) link
I don't believe this, but sometimes I'm tempted to think Trump's all-time biggest sin was naming his son Eric
― Rich E. (Eric H.), Thursday, 22 February 2024 18:36 (one month ago) link
Trump was probably a CHIPS fan
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Thursday, 22 February 2024 18:52 (one month ago) link
Pres K, with much respect... Erik.
― alpaca lips now (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 22 February 2024 19:07 (one month ago) link
It is true that he should’ve gone with “ponch“, but I think that might have been a bridge too far
― a single gunshot and polite applause (Hunt3r), Thursday, 22 February 2024 19:20 (one month ago) link
I love that the guy that won this challenge is a two-time Trump voter:
A federal judge has told MyPillow CEO Mike Lindell to hand over $5 million to a man who took up his challenge to debunk his election interference claim — and succeeded.
In the Wednesday ruling, U.S. District Judge John Tunheim ordered Lindell to pay Robert Zeidman, a computer forensics expert, the $5 million award he had promised (plus interest) within 30 days.
The yearslong saga first began at a three-day symposium in 2021 that Lindell organized to promote lies about voter fraud in the 2020 presidential election. Lindell claimed he had data that showed the Chinese government had interfered in the election and offered a prize of $5 million to anyone who could prove his data wrong. He called it the "Prove Mike Wrong" challenge.
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 22 February 2024 22:29 (one month ago) link
He should pay him with $5 million in pillows.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 22 February 2024 22:32 (one month ago) link
I expect we'll see Lindell file Chapter 11 any day now, if he hasn't already
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 22 February 2024 22:38 (one month ago) link
Of course this happened! Of course it did.
― Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 22 February 2024 22:56 (one month ago) link
So the crap you spout off at a conference is legally binding?
― nickn, Thursday, 22 February 2024 23:01 (one month ago) link
Offer, acceptance, contract.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 22 February 2024 23:03 (one month ago) link
Lindell's challenge appeared to have a set of written rules, complete with arbitration clause.
https://www.cnn.com/2024/02/21/politics/mike-lindell-lawsuit-payment/index.html
― felicity, Thursday, 22 February 2024 23:08 (one month ago) link
lol guy needs help
― lag∞n, Thursday, 22 February 2024 23:40 (one month ago) link
https://scontent-bos5-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/428657977_10224667612909630_7215587487606878242_n.jpg?_nc_cat=109&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=dd5e9f&_nc_ohc=L7D1c5ZnDrsAX9z9SAv&_nc_oc=AQnsuG0xqDcL1Af3NCC9shb0HnR9HsJR1q3Mh4QwLz-y4mj0xh46_ww4hPl-GUJCWfah2zEHYtuxzhNnK7UqFQCS&_nc_ht=scontent-bos5-1.xx&oh=00_AfAcw3Cik0qG4l0SXx8-JShbqxmQ-YvAlH1OfRBFjJgJGA&oe=65DC2258
― scott seward, Thursday, 22 February 2024 23:45 (one month ago) link
Add it to the list
MADISON, Wis. — Bipartisan ethics regulators in Wisconsin have recommended felony charges against one of Donald Trump’s fundraising arms and other Republicans in a scheme that they say was meant to circumvent campaign finance laws to take out a powerful GOP lawmaker who has turned against Trump.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/02/23/wisconsin-ethics-trump-fundraising-charges/
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 23 February 2024 17:14 (one month ago) link
Seeing Robin Vos get it from all sides there is kinda satisfying.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 23 February 2024 18:17 (one month ago) link
Meantime, Engoron has officially filed the fraud judgment so Trump has 30 days from now to either put up the cash or a bond for it or else the NYAG office can start merrily collecting, regardless of when Trump files his appeal. 31 days from now is when Trump's criminal trial begins. Timing!
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 23 February 2024 21:08 (one month ago) link
― I painted my teeth (sleeve), Friday, 23 February 2024 21:14 (one month ago) link
Fox cuts coverage of Trump’s rally: Even though he’s entitled to his opinion, he’s not entitled to his own set of facts. The market has indeed been going up but it has nothing to do with Trump. There was also no evidence of a rigged election pic.twitter.com/cwj8YIc1Xo— Acyn (@Acyn) February 23, 2024
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 23 February 2024 22:09 (one month ago) link
and so the trump worm continues a wrigglin' inside the mill in which turn them wheels of justice. the lore says they grind exceeding small--yet still they have never quite reached him. wriggle wriggle worm.
― a single gunshot and polite applause (Hunt3r), Saturday, 24 February 2024 00:11 (one month ago) link
Love these disclaimers, though
Newsmax adds a disclaimer at the end of Trump’s rally: The president mentioned in his speech, the 2020 elections. Newsmax as a network believes the results were legal and final. pic.twitter.com/SFD2ChXWcQ— Acyn (@Acyn) February 23, 2024
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 24 February 2024 00:12 (one month ago) link
― Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Saturday, 24 February 2024 00:51 (one month ago) link
“Rigged election? We here at Newsmax don’t throw that phrase around, that would be irresponsible and anti-civic, not us no sir”
― Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Saturday, 24 February 2024 00:52 (one month ago) link
There is a phrase used in rhetoric to mention something by saying you will not mention it. Apophasis? Paralipsis?
― alpaca lips now (Ye Mad Puffin), Saturday, 24 February 2024 03:10 (one month ago) link
if I posted that praeteritio is also a term you could use for this, it would just be showing off so I won't
― the absence of bikes (f. hazel), Saturday, 24 February 2024 03:23 (one month ago) link
Who are we to speak of such things?
― alpaca lips now (Ye Mad Puffin), Saturday, 24 February 2024 03:28 (one month ago) link
I’m getting my own show on newsmax. Tune in monday at 8pm
― treeship., Saturday, 24 February 2024 04:51 (one month ago) link
use the “don’t sue me” disclaimer is my non-legal advice. i use a “i’m so uncollectable” codicil, too.
― a single gunshot and polite applause (Hunt3r), Saturday, 24 February 2024 14:44 (one month ago) link
Thiiiis fuuuuuucking guuuuuuy
COLUMBIA, S.C. — Former President Trump sought to appeal to Black voters on Friday night in South Carolina by repeatedly citing the 91 felony charges he faces and comparing them to unfair treatment from the criminal justice system toward minorities in America.“A lot of people said that’s why the Black people liked me, because they had been hurt so badly and discriminated against. And they actually viewed me as I’m being discriminated against … Maybe there’s something to it,” he said, right after talking about the charges.He also cited his mug shot in Georgia — taken last summer after he was charged for trying to overturn the state’s election results — as a reason that Black voters would gravitate toward him in November. Trump said he now saw Black Americans wearing mug shots on their T-shirts.“When I did the mug shot in Atlanta, that mug shot is number one,” Trump said. He added that the Black population “embraced it more than anyone else.”He also said: “I’m being indicted for you, the Black population.”
“A lot of people said that’s why the Black people liked me, because they had been hurt so badly and discriminated against. And they actually viewed me as I’m being discriminated against … Maybe there’s something to it,” he said, right after talking about the charges.
He also cited his mug shot in Georgia — taken last summer after he was charged for trying to overturn the state’s election results — as a reason that Black voters would gravitate toward him in November. Trump said he now saw Black Americans wearing mug shots on their T-shirts.
“When I did the mug shot in Atlanta, that mug shot is number one,” Trump said. He added that the Black population “embraced it more than anyone else.”
He also said: “I’m being indicted for you, the Black population.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/02/24/trump-black-voters-indicted-mug-shot/
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 24 February 2024 14:56 (one month ago) link
stay woke donnie
― a single gunshot and polite applause (Hunt3r), Saturday, 24 February 2024 15:00 (one month ago) link
Orangebone
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 24 February 2024 15:05 (one month ago) link
As if there’s some compendium of “best selling mug shots” broken down by demographics.
― Requiem for a Dream: The Musical! (Dan Peterson), Saturday, 24 February 2024 15:17 (one month ago) link
"Maybe there's something to it."
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Saturday, 24 February 2024 18:02 (one month ago) link
"I just made it up on the spot, but - hey - anything's possible."
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Saturday, 24 February 2024 18:58 (one month ago) link
https://bsky.app/profile/kleinman.bsky.social/post/3km2dthtdyk23
― B. Amato (Boring, Maryland), Saturday, 24 February 2024 19:12 (one month ago) link
One of the replies shows Spike Lee holding up a pair of 'gold' shoes superficially similar to Trump's, but when you compare the two Trump's pair looks like embarrassingly cheap crap knocked off by the low bidder and designed by somebody's alcoholic brother-in-law, while Spike's look both stylish and wearable, like something a person who was really into shoes might covet.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Saturday, 24 February 2024 19:28 (one month ago) link
“For hard-working Americans, Nov. 5 will be our new Liberation Day,” Trump said in an address at the Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC). “But for the liars, and cheaters, and fraudsters, and censors and imposters who have commandeered our government, it will be their Judgment Day.”
― scott seward, Saturday, 24 February 2024 22:00 (one month ago) link
sounds fair.
“These are the stakes of this election: Our country is being destroyed and the only thing standing between you and its obliteration is me,” he declared, casting Biden’s leadership as “an express train barreling toward servitude and to ruin.”
”A vote for Trump is your ticket back to freedom, it’s your passport out of tyranny and it’s your only escape from Joe Biden and his gang’s fast track to hell. And in many ways, we’re living in hell right now,” he said, adding that: “the unprecedented success of the United States of America will be my ultimate and absolute revenge.”
― scott seward, Saturday, 24 February 2024 22:05 (one month ago) link
He's high on his own supply.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Saturday, 24 February 2024 22:12 (one month ago) link
...and said supply is just gas station dick pills.
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 24 February 2024 22:31 (one month ago) link
Next band name, thanks C.
― alpaca lips now (Ye Mad Puffin), Saturday, 24 February 2024 22:36 (one month ago) link
the unprecedented success of the United States of America is on my ultimate and absolute revenge vision board too!
― the absence of bikes (f. hazel), Saturday, 24 February 2024 22:44 (one month ago) link
I think what'll be interesting is that for so many older people, his election was totally reality-breaking, but for kids growing up under him, that's just what a President IS. He's the baseline of their understanding.— Brendan Hill (@playwrightrodeo) February 24, 2024
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 25 February 2024 11:26 (one month ago) link
The next celebrity Republican President probably won't be that Trumpish though, in terms of the specific traits that make him so anamolous.
― nashwan, Sunday, 25 February 2024 11:49 (one month ago) link
Not that I have a clue who that would be.
― nashwan, Sunday, 25 February 2024 11:51 (one month ago) link
probably Donald Trump
― bae (sic), Sunday, 25 February 2024 12:24 (one month ago) link
Just putting his fetid corpse up every four years does seem more likely now sure
― nashwan, Sunday, 25 February 2024 12:26 (one month ago) link
This MF will say anything - next thing you know he’ll be selling his own version of Wonka’s chocolate factory on the stump with no irony
― Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Sunday, 25 February 2024 14:01 (one month ago) link
Oompa loompa doompa dee dump
― CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Sunday, 25 February 2024 16:30 (one month ago) link
I liked the way Bakari Sellers framed the election last night: Biden vs. Trump vs. the couch.
― clemenza, Sunday, 25 February 2024 16:35 (one month ago) link
Only just caught up with the data set on last week’s president rankings and realized that, even among conservative/GOP-affiliated scholars, Trump ranks 43rd of 45, perhaps underlining how much the divide really is between “the elite” and everyone else
― Rich E. (Eric H.), Sunday, 25 February 2024 19:16 (one month ago) link
What Trump voters like most about him are features that barely show up on the radar of "presidential scholars" or else rate as negatives.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Sunday, 25 February 2024 19:42 (one month ago) link
I think just “scholars” of any type about covers it
― Rich E. (Eric H.), Sunday, 25 February 2024 19:51 (one month ago) link
there may be authoritarian xenophobic nationalist presidents in the future. (i hope there aren't). but there will never be the likes of this guy again. there isn't even anyone else in popular culture who is similar to him, like someone who is a deliberate parody of themself but still takes themselves seriously. maybe vince mcmahon or someone like that.
― treeship., Sunday, 25 February 2024 20:13 (one month ago) link
he's like a mix between vince mcmahon, joan rivers, tony soprano, and mussolini. the latter element -- the lust for power -- is the most incongruous with the rest of how he is lol.
― treeship., Sunday, 25 February 2024 20:18 (one month ago) link
How?
― Cemetry Gaetz (DJP), Sunday, 25 February 2024 20:23 (one month ago) link
because he is basically a right wing talking head type of guy with a very new york sassy insult comic thing. but then he really does want to be a dictator. some people had the idea during the 2016 election that he just wanted to be president to serve his vanity, as a ceremonial role, but that turned out to not be true. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_2025
― treeship., Sunday, 25 February 2024 20:29 (one month ago) link
i know he isn't an architect of project 2025, but it represents an attempt to translate the sort of things he tried to do into a systematic agenda.
― treeship., Sunday, 25 February 2024 20:35 (one month ago) link
a lot of people didn't think that HE thought that he would win. that he was just doing it for his brand and publicity. i can believe that. he certainly wasn't prepared in any way when he got in there.
― scott seward, Sunday, 25 February 2024 20:37 (one month ago) link
i was surprised he didn't pivot to a more moderate and mainstream style once he was elected. i think our sycophantic media class would have been relieved and embraced him if he did that, but instead he kept the lunatics around (bannon and flynn) and did things like the muslim ban. he also gave a speech at the fbi where he insulted them his first day i think.
― treeship., Sunday, 25 February 2024 20:42 (one month ago) link
I don’t think other people trying to bend Trump’s unacceptability into an acceptable narrative is an indicator that the avaricious yearning for power that has been the hallmark of his pursuit of celebrity for as long as I can remember knowing about him. One of the reasons his campaign was initially funny was because it was so obvious from both The Apprentice and also his rhetoric that he viewed the Presidency as a venue for dictatorship, and it stopped being funny when he started winning primaries and his obvious disqualifications didn’t disqualify him.
― Cemetry Gaetz (DJP), Sunday, 25 February 2024 20:44 (one month ago) link
DJP otm
― I painted my teeth (sleeve), Sunday, 25 February 2024 20:45 (one month ago) link
I missed out an “is surprising/out of character” because I was typing on my phone but I think the gist of what I meant comes across
― Cemetry Gaetz (DJP), Sunday, 25 February 2024 20:56 (one month ago) link
i hear sooooo many people on t.v. news saying complimentary things about nikki haley its insane. and i try not to be conspiracy-minded. msnbc constantly having people compliment her. the daily show had a good bit about it the other night. drives me nuts. maybe she's not trump but she's still pretty damn scary. she must be good for ratings. they hope she'll hang in there. good narrative. whatever.
― scott seward, Sunday, 25 February 2024 20:58 (one month ago) link
msnbc is full to the brim with anti-Trump republicans who believe George W Bush was an unfairly tarnished great man, of course they love Hailey
― Clay, Sunday, 25 February 2024 21:00 (one month ago) link
otm, it turned out Trump as president is exactly the same as Trump in every other setting. Surprising if your metric is, “How do presidents behave,” but not if it’s “How does Donald Trump behave?”
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Sunday, 25 February 2024 21:01 (one month ago) link
(Xposts)
this one. i promise not to keep spamming with daily show clips. they've just been good recently. that jon stewart tucker carlson russia thing made me laugh so hard! he hasn't made me laugh in....man, since obama? or bush. who knows. this clip is right on to me though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYp2j2dKsjA
― scott seward, Sunday, 25 February 2024 21:03 (one month ago) link
Like I said on Thursday, if Trump didn't exist Haley would be our most nutjob conservative presidential nominee in history.
The only truthful thing Trump has ever said is when he admitted after the '16 election that he didn't think he'd win.
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 25 February 2024 21:16 (one month ago) link
If Trump didn't exist it's hard to say what positions Haley would be taking on anything, since she's mostly an opportunist. In this case the opportunism takes the form of "splitting the difference between Trump and normal pre-2016 Republican candidates," but in different circumstances she could be tacking in any number of directions.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Sunday, 25 February 2024 21:24 (one month ago) link
I base my conclusions on how she ruled as governor during the Obama years and she was pretty fascist already.
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 25 February 2024 22:08 (one month ago) link
Her idea of "An alternative to Trump" is to run as she did in the mid '00s and it was already dismal, way to the right of Romney and McCain.
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 25 February 2024 22:09 (one month ago) link
She was terrible for sure. (I like this history of her support of the Confederate flag, both before and after she ordered it taken down: https://kevinmlevin.substack.com/p/nikki-haleys-revisionist-history)
I just mean that Trump has distorted everything in the Republican Party so much that it's hard to imagine what they would be like without him. Still terrible! But maybe also still hewing closer to the longstanding practice of keeping the racist/fascist/nationalist base energized enough to vote but preferably at arm's length.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Sunday, 25 February 2024 22:14 (one month ago) link
Her Dixie flag decisions looked like, if I remember (someone can correct me), a mix of disgust and cynicism. Her public statements seemed to capture a genuine sense of outrage, i.e. why do so many people in my state espouse Confederate values, when she was also ignorant if not stupid about what her party had espoused since 1964.
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 25 February 2024 22:22 (one month ago) link
Her basic line was, "It's appalling that white supremacists have hijacked the noble Confederate flag," which ... yeah.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Sunday, 25 February 2024 22:38 (one month ago) link
They are back live in Fulton County right now questioning Nathan Wade's lawyer about his knowledge of the relationship, he isn't giving the defense much whatsoever.
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Tuesday, 27 February 2024 19:29 (one month ago) link
The attorney for the defense is so bad, just utterly flailing around trying to get Wade's attorney to provide any useful information.
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Tuesday, 27 February 2024 19:44 (one month ago) link
If they were doing a better job they would be making a better case that they are not wasting everyone's time. Even the judge seems bored and ready to move on.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 27 February 2024 20:02 (one month ago) link
they are wasting so much time trying to make a point that wouldn't show much even if they were able to nail it down
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Tuesday, 27 February 2024 20:05 (one month ago) link
And this witness ain't giving them nothing.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 27 February 2024 20:08 (one month ago) link
Roffle:
Left: motion from the Trump folks today arguing "well even if he did cook the books, it could've been to spare himself embarrassment with the Mrs rather than save his campaign. Right: story from @swin24.bsky.social and I over a year ago predicting this
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 27 February 2024 20:33 (one month ago) link
seemed like the witness didn't want to perjure himself, funny how this always seems to happen in Trumpland
― frogbs, Wednesday, 28 February 2024 00:22 (one month ago) link
hes got a meme stock now, too perfect
What’s gotten far less attention, though, is this: A frenetic rally in a stock tied to Trump Media & Technology Group — which operates the Truth Social platform he posts on daily — has minted a nearly $4 billion windfall for him.
There are any number of caveats to this figure, including how it’s only a paper profit for now that he’ll have to wait months to monetize, and yet the stock’s surge is a potentially huge financial boost for a billionaire candidate suddenly short on cash.
The type of transaction — known as a de-SPAC or blank-check deal — that would hand Trump this new-found wealth is a complex one that briefly became popular on Wall Street during the stock mania unleashed by pandemic-era stimulus. In this particular deal, Truth Social’s owner would enter the stock market by merging with a publicly traded company called Digital World Acquisition Corp.
https://archive.ph/m3RVH#selection-1627.0-1645.31
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 28 February 2024 17:18 (one month ago) link
*wriggle*
― I painted my teeth (sleeve), Wednesday, 28 February 2024 17:19 (one month ago) link
Sigh.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 28 February 2024 17:21 (one month ago) link
this is really the perfect trump event wriggling out of a jam in the stupidest most media poisoned way possible while screwing over his supporters by dumping the stock that theyve pumped out of loyalty
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 28 February 2024 17:23 (one month ago) link
idk if itll actually work but its an interesting story
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 28 February 2024 17:24 (one month ago) link
i thought for sure that $400M would be too much for trump to ever be able to cover in a world stacked with evil billionaires!
― z_tbd, Wednesday, 28 February 2024 17:25 (one month ago) link
wait i can see it now hes gonna do very public obvious securities fraud in an effort to keep the price up while he sells
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 28 February 2024 17:27 (one month ago) link
This reminds me of the guy I work with who is always a disorganized mess, has made multiple very public colossal fuckups that have cost us money, yet every year he miraculously gets another massive promotion to everyone else's complete shock.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 28 February 2024 17:37 (one month ago) link
I'm going to go out on a limb and say that he will not make anywhere in the vicinity of $4B off this.
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Wednesday, 28 February 2024 17:38 (one month ago) link
I don't know. I hear he's good at deals.
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Wednesday, 28 February 2024 17:40 (one month ago) link
xp - I don't think he will either, but even if he pulls in 10% of the number he's covered for the two big court losses
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 28 February 2024 17:49 (one month ago) link
yeah, the problem with the "Donald Trump is going bankrupt" narrative is that he has a pool of about 50 million fanatics who would all probably send him a few bucks
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Wednesday, 28 February 2024 17:53 (one month ago) link
not really seeing news about this anywhere else, kinda skeptical that Trump has just minted 4 billion out of a tie to an unpopular social media site whose only source of revenue is advertising vitamins and gold bars
― frogbs, Wednesday, 28 February 2024 17:54 (one month ago) link
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/26/business/trump-media-digital-world-acquisition-cash.html
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Wednesday, 28 February 2024 17:57 (one month ago) link
Mr. Trump will have an overwhelming majority stake in the postmerger company and own 79 million shares. Shares of Digital World have soared this year on expectations that the deal will be completed and that Mr. Trump will win the Republican nomination for president. The stock closed on Monday at $47.23 per share. At that price, the former president’s stake would be worth nearly $4 billion.
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Wednesday, 28 February 2024 17:58 (one month ago) link
Ah! Well. Nevertheless.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 28 February 2024 18:01 (one month ago) link
It's down to $45.27 today, which means Trump is 160 million dollars poorer than on Monday. Loser!
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Wednesday, 28 February 2024 18:03 (one month ago) link
regardless of if the scheme works what matters is the journey
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 28 February 2024 18:03 (one month ago) link
Guys, you're missing some major points here, which that quote above underscores -- he needs the money now, and there's no guarantee it'll all be that valued down the pike when he can actually cash in, which is about six months from now.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 28 February 2024 18:05 (one month ago) link
and jimmy carter had to sell his peanut farm
― symsymsym, Wednesday, 28 February 2024 18:05 (one month ago) link
I mean the latest Trump lawyer filing was them saying "Uhhhh we can give you a bond for $100 million?" That is not a sign of overwhelming confidence in their current situation!
Shares of Digital World have soared this year on expectations that the deal will be completed and that Mr. Trump will win the Republican nomination for president. The stock closed on Monday at $47.23 per share.
Trump will get the nomination. That's a cinch. This merger deal might even close before September and the final run up to the election. But DJT's going to lose and then he'll revert to being the same Florida Man he's been since January 2021. That's if he stays out of jail. So how does that scenario make Truth Social worth one cent more in 2025 than today?
I find that share price of $47 kinda suspicious, since Trump wants to make the number 47 part of his branding, like he did with 45.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 28 February 2024 18:50 (one month ago) link
https://www.zodiacsigns-horoscope.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/47_angel_number-758x426.jpg
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Wednesday, 28 February 2024 18:57 (one month ago) link
Trump loses the most important part of his initial petition to the appellate division in New York. “The interim stay is denied as to the enforcement of money judgment”https://t.co/5Gx1yAcEVt pic.twitter.com/fpSteed3Qd— southpaw (@nycsouthpaw) February 28, 2024
― symsymsym, Wednesday, 28 February 2024 21:12 (one month ago) link
Did I also see that he is trying to get away with posting just $100 million of that $400 million plus judgment?
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 28 February 2024 21:23 (one month ago) link
they should allow this, in exchange prosecutors get to light a new property of his on fire each week
― CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 28 February 2024 21:26 (one month ago) link
only if we can start with Mar-A-Lago
― I painted my teeth (sleeve), Wednesday, 28 February 2024 21:27 (one month ago) link
the saudis can cover his debts, no problem
― from a prominent family of bassoon players (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 28 February 2024 21:28 (one month ago) link
eight fucking years and I can't think of a single significant consequence this guy has had for anything he's done, I am really trying to stay positive here but I am so so tired of it
― I painted my teeth (sleeve), Wednesday, 28 February 2024 21:28 (one month ago) link
half afraid of him dying and then finding out he made a deal to come back on weekends or some shit
― CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 28 February 2024 21:32 (one month ago) link
single significant consequence
Clogged arteries?
― Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 28 February 2024 21:43 (one month ago) link
how does this work, would Digital World shareholders be very happy about a merger that instantly puts a half a billion hole in their finances. Not really asking - just muttering to myself.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 28 February 2024 21:50 (one month ago) link
I doubt he can liquidate all of that stock at once.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 28 February 2024 22:16 (one month ago) link
But anyone even halfway paying attention knows he's gonna try. Which really limits (or should limit) how high the price will be able to rise. Gonna be hard to pump-and-dump when every other product you've ever slapped your name on has been a flaming bag of shit.
― Tahuti Watches L&O:SVU Reruns Without His Ape (unperson), Wednesday, 28 February 2024 22:23 (one month ago) link
Securities law was my least favorite class in law school, but there may be legal limits on how much he can sell. Not that that would stop him.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 28 February 2024 22:34 (one month ago) link
so... what just happened with the Supreme Court? did they hand him another win?
― I painted my teeth (sleeve), Wednesday, 28 February 2024 22:51 (one month ago) link
so sick of this shit
I don't even have the SC thread bookmarked anymore because it is so relentlessly depressing
― I painted my teeth (sleeve), Wednesday, 28 February 2024 22:52 (one month ago) link
“They let you do it”
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 28 February 2024 22:53 (one month ago) link
It's been an up-and-down day in Trump world. On the one hand, the Supreme Court agreed to hear arguments relating to "Presidential immunity" vis-a-vis being thrown off ballots. That'll happen in late April. On the other hand, he got slammed hard financially.
Donald Trump now owes the state of New York $454 million. To appeal the verdict and to pause the state’s efforts to collect the judgment during that appeal, Trump has to post a $454 million bond. Today Trump’s lawyers went into court and asked the judge to accept a $100 million bond in lieu of the $454 million. They said that $100 million was as much as Trump could come up with. If the judge rejected the plea, “properties would likely need to be sold to raise capital under exigent circumstances.” In other words, Trump would have to sell off property at fire-sale prices and suffer harm that could not be undone if he gets the judgment thrown out on appeal.Associate Justice Anil Singh denied Trump’s request.
Associate Justice Anil Singh denied Trump’s request.
― Tahuti Watches L&O:SVU Reruns Without His Ape (unperson), Wednesday, 28 February 2024 22:59 (one month ago) link
the Supreme Court agreed to hear arguments relating to "Presidential immunity" vis-a-vis being thrown off ballots. That'll happen in late April.
OK I can live with this, thank you
― I painted my teeth (sleeve), Wednesday, 28 February 2024 23:01 (one month ago) link
also, fuck 5/9 of the Supreme Court forever, die die die
but the immunity case that's being delayed is the DC case about trying to overthrow the 2020 election, not the ballot access case
― Dan S, Wednesday, 28 February 2024 23:04 (one month ago) link
― I painted my teeth (sleeve), Wednesday, February 28, 2024 2:28 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
same, it's pretty dispiriting
― gbx, Wednesday, 28 February 2024 23:04 (one month ago) link
xp oh that's just great, fuck this fucking country forever
― I painted my teeth (sleeve), Wednesday, 28 February 2024 23:07 (one month ago) link
― Dan S, Wednesday, 28 February 2024 23:09 (one month ago) link
sleeve otm, on both counts. I appreciate those of y'all keeping up the optimism for all of us, but I'm pretty fuckin' tired of the, "no wait, really, THIS is the one that will give him a meaningful consequence, promise".
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 28 February 2024 23:11 (one month ago) link
The grift continues down the generations: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/feb/29/donald-trump-jr-australia-tour-2023-ticket-refunds-waiting-brisbane-melbourne
― Zelda Zonk, Thursday, 29 February 2024 00:43 (one month ago) link
why the FUCK would you pay to see that weird beard? does he sing or something? fuck that dude and the kangaroo he rode in on
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 29 February 2024 00:52 (one month ago) link
The answer is, I hope, stop following Trump news (I don't) and do what you must to get local Dems enthused.
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 29 February 2024 00:56 (one month ago) link
Ensuring he loses in November means more to me than following the daily scrim but ymmv
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 29 February 2024 00:58 (one month ago) link
I hear that but I am in a blue state, my options are pretty much limited to donating when/where I can afaict
― I painted my teeth (sleeve), Thursday, 29 February 2024 01:50 (one month ago) link
If there's any consolation to be had, much of Trumpian wealth is in real estate. Including commercial real estate, like office buildings. That market is in the toilet.
Basically no one wants to go to an office anymore, and given interest rates, it is really hard to sell or buy any sort of real estate, and commercial real estate is particularly difficult.
― alpaca lips now (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 29 February 2024 02:42 (one month ago) link
As of today, the main consequences he's suffered have only consisted of staving off his serious legal jeopardy, not eliminating it. He has not been able to dispose of it, but he can, at a huge cost in lawyer's fees, postpone or minimize those consequences for a while longer.
He knows that the only completely effective strategy for eliminating the dire consequences of his multiform civil and criminal liabilities is to win the election and spend all his energy destroying what's left of the federal government and converting its apparatus into his wholly owned subsidiary, cowing all his enemies into submission or prison. He really envies Putin's death grip on Russia and would love to follow in his path.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 29 February 2024 04:24 (one month ago) link
"a huge cost in lawyer's fees"
wait he pays his lawyers now?
― mark s, Thursday, 29 February 2024 12:23 (one month ago) link
just the ones he hires when the ones he hasn't paid sue him
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 29 February 2024 12:37 (one month ago) link
hey have a question re the (450-million-+ counting) costs/late fees/interest - but see what seems conflicting comments re what Trump actually has to put up
So what I get is options aside from accept and pay-up are 1. put up full bond of assessed amount but 2. in some articles (reputable or semi-reputable publications - atlantic, slate, guardian, TPM, etc) some seem to state that he could do a 35 million bond(maybe 45 now with interest) post with a bondsman - standard 10% know from the fall guy.
my question is are some of these lawyers being quoted just messing up as conversant with one state's laws and not anothers? Is Trump just unwilling to pay whatever interest and legal attachment of assets to bond (of 35/45 million - not 100 mill he just offered to put up to escape the 450 million bond) he'd have to do? Being cheap and hoping appeals run out?
― H in Addis, Thursday, 29 February 2024 12:44 (one month ago) link
I think he and his lawyers are trying to negotiate it, and it is very doubtful they will have success with that.
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Thursday, 29 February 2024 13:57 (one month ago) link
if he uses a bondsman the bondsman has to be ultra secure that whatever Trump puts up in collateral is worth the amount Trump says it is.
how do you think that's gonna go
― a (waterface), Thursday, 29 February 2024 15:34 (one month ago) link
he's fucked financially
― a (waterface), Thursday, 29 February 2024 15:35 (one month ago) link
I really don't think he's as fucked as we'd all like him to be, amazingly he still has plenty of rich dumbfucks that love the "access" to him at Mar-a-Lago willing to help him out. Not to mention the millions of not rich people still willing to throw money at him. As long as he can still con these rubes, he's not well and truly fucked.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 29 February 2024 15:37 (one month ago) link
he will die, I'm guessing within the next decade or so, and I have every intention of outliving him. it's cold comfort but that's all I'm serving today.
― Is he an evil man who makes chocolate or is the chocolate itself evil? (stevie), Thursday, 29 February 2024 15:58 (one month ago) link
ok let me rephrase that
he's totally fucked financially and there's very little he can do about it, and people are not going to throw enough money to him for him to crawl out of it
― a (waterface), Thursday, 29 February 2024 16:07 (one month ago) link
I think his kids are more fucked than he is. He'll either be President again or go off somewhere to die in peace, but his family is unlikely to be able to grift at such a high level after he's dead.
― EMPRETY UKXEPCTED TWITS (President Keyes), Thursday, 29 February 2024 16:32 (one month ago) link
there have to be gold bars buried on that golf course of his somewhere. they will spend the rest of their lives digging for it.
― scott seward, Thursday, 29 February 2024 16:55 (one month ago) link
Twenty-four hours after he's officially declared dead the Russians and the Saudis are gonna round up all the Trump kids and explain exactly how they're going to start paying off their father's markers, immediately, and who's going to get bone-sawed first if they don't.
― Tahuti Watches L&O:SVU Reruns Without His Ape (unperson), Thursday, 29 February 2024 17:23 (one month ago) link
You all are fucking delusional. Those shits are going to stay rich until they, too, die.
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Thursday, 29 February 2024 17:25 (one month ago) link
that's what the bone saw is for
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Thursday, 29 February 2024 17:26 (one month ago) link
Like sorry not sorry, but the dream of class-based downfall independent of violence is just that— a dream. Unless someone takes their money from them— and the Saudis are not going to do that— then they will just continue to be rich little maggots feeding off the rest of us. That’s the way capitalism works.
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Thursday, 29 February 2024 17:27 (one month ago) link
35% of the buildings in the world will eventually start collapsing due to the rollback of regulations and cost-cutting measures and AI construction and I'm sure the Trumps will eventually be in one of those buildings
― CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Thursday, 29 February 2024 17:32 (one month ago) link
Netanyahu and the Bushes in the rest.
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 29 February 2024 17:33 (one month ago) link
― Muad'Doob (Moodles),
My favorite Amy Grant ballad.
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 29 February 2024 17:34 (one month ago) link
"I see," said the blind man, as he picked up his hammer and (bone) saw.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 29 February 2024 17:34 (one month ago) link
After Trump dies there will an international Deals shortage that will throw capitalism into a death spiral
― EMPRETY UKXEPCTED TWITS (President Keyes), Thursday, 29 February 2024 17:35 (one month ago) link
― CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Thursday, 29 February 2024 17:35 (one month ago) link
You all are fucking delusional.
Naw. They're just indulging in a bit of wishful thinking for personal amusement.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 29 February 2024 17:54 (one month ago) link
Anyway all that money he's supposed to be getting later? About that.
https://wapo.st/3P6sibt
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 29 February 2024 18:25 (one month ago) link
oompa loompa doompa de fuck
― CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Thursday, 29 February 2024 18:39 (one month ago) link
But what does one rhyme with that
― Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 29 February 2024 18:41 (one month ago) link
xp what a surprise
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 29 February 2024 18:41 (one month ago) link
Gift link -- a solid enough summary of Trump's facing something he's never wanted to do: actually disclosing what he's worth.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 1 March 2024 17:35 (one month ago) link
Relatedly, this filing from E. Jean Carroll's lawyer Roberta Kaplan yesterday is worth a read for the first two paragraphs alone.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 1 March 2024 17:36 (one month ago) link
this is praxis
This is exactly what he should be doing:"Loser" has become a favorite Biden taunt of Trump lately" pic.twitter.com/r81yPd2FzP— modest proposal (@modestproposal1) March 5, 2024
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 5 March 2024 18:01 (one month ago) link
I'm the only one who has ever beat him. And I'll beat him again.
And again. And again.
Sounds kinda kinky.
― alpaca lips now (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 5 March 2024 18:07 (one month ago) link
getting "loser" to stick seems possible (he won't be able to resist helping) and effective.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 5 March 2024 18:09 (one month ago) link
he starting to do the late-era Lenny Bruce thing
“Some people call it an experiment – I don’t call it an experiment,” Trump said of the United States. “I just say this is a magnificent place, a magnificent country, and it’s sad to see how far it’s come and gone … When you look at the depths where it’s gone, we can’t let that happen. We’re going to straighten it out. We’re going to close our borders. We’re going to drill baby drill.”
As the unhappy warrior spoke, 10 guests headed for the exit, apparently worn down by the misery of it all.
― Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 6 March 2024 18:04 (one month ago) link
lol “the unhappy warrior”
Biden should start calling him that
― Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 6 March 2024 18:11 (one month ago) link
A rare Al Smith reference, but wasted on 99% of the electorate.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 6 March 2024 18:21 (one month ago) link
"drill, baby, drill" I guess these bozos figured out it was time to coin a new 3 word slogan even more annoying and objectionable than "jobs, jobs, jobs,"
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 6 March 2024 18:25 (one month ago) link
"Drill, baby, drill" is a recycled Sarah Palin slogan from 2008.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 6 March 2024 18:28 (one month ago) link
talk about scraping the oil barrel
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 6 March 2024 18:30 (one month ago) link
he does that con man thing of talking about how great everything is going to be really well. i mean, he's good at it. he would have been good at selling insurance. everything is always in the future. everything now is horrible. and if it never happens it doesn't matter because he can just keep talking like that forever.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 6 March 2024 18:33 (one month ago) link
And yet if you ask him he'll say he came up with it.
― Tahuti Watches L&O:SVU Reruns Without His Ape (unperson), Wednesday, 6 March 2024 18:33 (one month ago) link
"Let's Make America Great Again" was Reagan's 1980 campaign slogan
― Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 6 March 2024 18:34 (one month ago) link
Turns out "American carnage" was not descriptive, but aspirational.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 6 March 2024 18:40 (one month ago) link
pretty bad Bradley Cooper film too
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 6 March 2024 18:45 (one month ago) link
Unhappy sniper
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 6 March 2024 18:56 (one month ago) link
"drill baby drill" is particularly stupid because US oil production is at an all-time high and the US is now the world's largest oil producer
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Wednesday, 6 March 2024 19:02 (one month ago) link
facts don't matter to MAGA
― Is he an evil man who makes chocolate or is the chocolate itself evil? (stevie), Wednesday, 6 March 2024 19:03 (one month ago) link
He's just playing the hits. Next it'll be "lock her up."
I love how he thinks he's running against Barack Obama.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 6 March 2024 19:04 (one month ago) link
Technically he is! we all know the Obamas still control the deep state from Epstein Island.
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 6 March 2024 19:06 (one month ago) link
smoking Kools and kiteboarding
― Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 6 March 2024 19:13 (one month ago) link
I think I mentioned this elsewhere but this is way more concerning to me than Biden's verbal slips, like it's one thing to mix up people who have similar positions or statuses but the current President, and guy you are running against in the election, should not be one of those things you mix up. in fact asking who the current President is is one of those things they ask you when you're suspected of having a concussion.
― frogbs, Wednesday, 6 March 2024 19:16 (one month ago) link
Also Biden has been making verbal slips since 1980, that's just how he's wired
― Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 6 March 2024 19:20 (one month ago) link
I think there's a credible case to be made that Trump decided to run after Obama roasted him at the 2011 Correspondents' Dinner. Of course, Trump had already been riding the "birther" hobby horse--that was the basis for Obama's jokes--but there certainly was an obsessive quality to the way Trump tried to erase Obama's legacy. So, in some ways, I suppose he is still running against Obama.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 6 March 2024 19:26 (one month ago) link
There are Trumpers who think Obama is the real President and he tells Biden what to do. Or the real President who isn’t Donald Trump.
― President Keyes, Wednesday, 6 March 2024 19:29 (one month ago) link
The Hidden Imam*
*President
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 6 March 2024 19:31 (one month ago) link
it's weird because it's not like fringe hateful conservative candidates, some with decent fame/money, hadn't run before, and usually did poorly (including he himself in his failed Reform Party bid in 2000). but gay people being treated better and a Black man in office for 8 years pissed everyone off so much that he became their hero.
it's weird how it's just accepted now considering how ridiculous it seemed at the time.
― CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 6 March 2024 19:32 (one month ago) link
otm. I remember an Obama-era Village Voice article titled something like "White America Has Lost Its Mind," describing exactly this phenomenon.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 6 March 2024 19:37 (one month ago) link
So the Reform Party now includes a Klansman—Mr. Duke, a Neo-Nazi—Mr. Buchanan, and a Communist—Ms. Fulani.This is not company I wish to keep.Donald Trump[109]
Donald Trump[109]
my how the times change
― CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 6 March 2024 19:37 (one month ago) link
He was referring to the Communist
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 6 March 2024 19:38 (one month ago) link
Well the one on right was on the leftAnd the one in the middle was on the right…
― President Keyes, Wednesday, 6 March 2024 19:40 (one month ago) link
Back when he spoke in sentences with subjects, verbs, and immovable objects.
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 6 March 2024 19:40 (one month ago) link
Yes, here it is
https://www.villagevoice.com/white-america-has-lost-its-mind/
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 6 March 2024 19:40 (one month ago) link
this is my tombstone statement for the trumpocene: "we are trapped in fifth grade." trump is the kid who has nothing going for him except the one thing that matters in ayn-rand-land -- his parents are loaded -- and unfortunately way too many of our classmates are (conditioned to be?) lazy and don't want to 'listen to the teacher' / 'do their homework' preferring (conforming) instead to emulate the rich kid and his privileged dingbat clique (rather than risk getting ganged up on by them). not terribly original i acknowledge but somehow since at least dubya we can't seem to break this idiotic suck-up cycle
― reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 6 March 2024 20:22 (one month ago) link
― CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Wednesday, March 6, 2024 1:32 PM (fifty-four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
he also got real lucky by running against such a weak and diluted field - you had like 12 identical candidates who all sucked in the same ways, to the point where the presumptive nominee was Jeb Bush, simply because of his last name. that said I admit Trump played the game pretty well - he was loud and obnoxious enough to draw ratings and was legitimately whiny and pissed off in a way other rich businessman candidates couldn't pull off. I think Republican voters legitimately resent anyone who comes off as smarter than them so Trump is kind of their perfect candidate.
― frogbs, Wednesday, 6 March 2024 20:32 (one month ago) link
“agreeance” lol w these opinions, though my disturbing realization after 2004 prez election was “omfg it’s like we’re stuck in HS!” but my realization after 2016 was “omfg it’s like we’re stuck in 8th grade!”
― ... 2024-- there's one clear winner! (Hunt3r), Thursday, 7 March 2024 01:51 (one month ago) link
I guess he filed his $91 million bond in the Carroll case. That's one down.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 8 March 2024 16:15 (one month ago) link
so will we find out where he got the money from?
― the absence of bikes (f. hazel), Friday, 8 March 2024 16:17 (one month ago) link
The Chubb Corporation (not a joke)
― a (waterface), Friday, 8 March 2024 16:27 (one month ago) link
So now he's in the pocket of Big Chubb.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 8 March 2024 16:31 (one month ago) link
The lock people?
― man in suit and red tie raising his fist (Tom D.), Friday, 8 March 2024 16:34 (one month ago) link
Chubb Rock
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 8 March 2024 16:41 (one month ago) link
No, Chubby Lock
― man in suit and red tie raising his fist (Tom D.), Friday, 8 March 2024 16:45 (one month ago) link
... I mean, Chubb Lock.
― man in suit and red tie raising his fist (Tom D.), Friday, 8 March 2024 16:46 (one month ago) link
I go by the name of the king Chubb LockI don't wear a cup nor a jock
― CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Friday, 8 March 2024 16:50 (one month ago) link
https://media.petsathome.com/wcsstore/pah-cas01//300/7141960PL.jpg
chub gone pro-maga! Actually it's quite easy to boycott this vile stuff, it gives my dog diarrhea
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 8 March 2024 16:52 (one month ago) link
Looks like Lara Trump is officially in with the RNC. Let the looting commence!
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Friday, 8 March 2024 17:25 (one month ago) link
Conspiracy theorists and anti-vaccine activists are angry and depressed over a Truth Social post in which Donald Trump boasts about the quick development of Covid vaccines during his presidency. pic.twitter.com/7ujom4wQ2T— Shayan Sardarizadeh (@Shayan86) March 8, 2024
― felicity, Saturday, 9 March 2024 06:45 (one month ago) link
one shouldn't have to prove he's full of shit but isn't the proof that his conflating haley with pelosi or biden with obama in speeches wasn't intentional as he later claimed, because any time he says anything that he considers remotely clever he takes a pause to bask in his own adoration of the hilarious thing he just said? there's nothing dry or understated about his delivery; if he had been utilizing a rhetorical device to make a point about how all these people are the same he would have congratulated himself at the time for being so smart and looked around the room with that stupid grin of self-approbation to soak it all in.
a quibbling point, but it always irks me with his pee-wee hermaning out of all the dumb stuff he says.
― slugbuggy, Saturday, 9 March 2024 08:29 (one month ago) link
i either never knew this one or i forgot about it because its so dumb but now i'm just like wtf? who on earth would do this in public? i mean, i know who...
https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/news/a54842/trump-civil-war-river-of-blood/
― scott seward, Saturday, 9 March 2024 15:37 (one month ago) link
its should be in the greatest hits package of Trumpiana.
― scott seward, Saturday, 9 March 2024 15:38 (one month ago) link
that is so good. “hey donnie that didn’t happen”“In my bizness you sell the sizzle not the steak— by the way my steaks are the best, everyone’s saying that.”“but there’s no steak—“
― ... 2024-- there's one clear winner! (Hunt3r), Saturday, 9 March 2024 15:54 (one month ago) link
“It doesn't make any difference. But many people were shot. It makes sense."
― Requiem for a Dream: The Musical! (Dan Peterson), Saturday, 9 March 2024 15:59 (one month ago) link
This essay is rough. But as the writer says, her story is a common one.
Daddy Died a MAGA
Daddy died in August of 2017…it was a terrible and painful death and he was only 61 years old. His last words to me were absolutely unfathomable and embarrassing: He begged for forgiveness for his behavior and his Facebook posts, since 2015. The MAGA mentality he had displayed since Trump came down that escalator. The point of contention in our formerly close relationship—the reason we had barely spoken in two years.He was dying and he talked about Betsy DeVos....I don’t know why I wrote this other than as a warning—your legacy will be impacted by the love or the hate you surround yourself with. I have to go way back before the Trump era to remember my dad properly. I know he knew this at the end, and feverishly tried to take it back before he left. I gave him grace then and I do now, but it doesn’t erase what he said and did and how it impacted our relationship.And that’s the thing…daddy wasn’t a outlier. His story is common. I wish it weren’t but such is the world we live in now. My hope is that the folks reading this can find grace for their loved one or just peace. Politics shouldn’t have destroyed my relationship with my dad before he died, but they did.My last memories of him leave a metallic taste in my mouth—bitter bile in my throat. I loved him deeply and it was reciprocated, but his skewed world view at the end of his life tragically confused his legacy and his loved ones, and that is the saddest thing I can say.
He was dying and he talked about Betsy DeVos.
I don’t know why I wrote this other than as a warning—your legacy will be impacted by the love or the hate you surround yourself with. I have to go way back before the Trump era to remember my dad properly. I know he knew this at the end, and feverishly tried to take it back before he left. I gave him grace then and I do now, but it doesn’t erase what he said and did and how it impacted our relationship.
And that’s the thing…daddy wasn’t a outlier. His story is common. I wish it weren’t but such is the world we live in now. My hope is that the folks reading this can find grace for their loved one or just peace. Politics shouldn’t have destroyed my relationship with my dad before he died, but they did.
My last memories of him leave a metallic taste in my mouth—bitter bile in my throat. I loved him deeply and it was reciprocated, but his skewed world view at the end of his life tragically confused his legacy and his loved ones, and that is the saddest thing I can say.
― Tahuti Watches L&O:SVU Reruns Without His Ape (unperson), Saturday, 9 March 2024 17:34 (one month ago) link
Papa was a MAGA choadWherever he owned the libs was home
― CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Saturday, 9 March 2024 19:50 (one month ago) link
And when he diedAll he left us was Anon
― President Keyes, Saturday, 9 March 2024 19:54 (one month ago) link
lol @ this guy being re-sued for further defamation every damn week for the next eight months because he cannot abide a) losing, b) keeping his mouth shut
― mookieproof, Monday, 11 March 2024 01:33 (one month ago) link
Jimmy Kimmel responds to Donald Trump’s review of his Oscar hosting performance: “Isn’t it past your jail time?”pic.twitter.com/zDvP3Lxpno— Keith Boykin (@keithboykin) March 11, 2024
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 11 March 2024 13:28 (one month ago) link
Responding to this turd just allows the right one more chance to frame Hollywood as bastion of groomer wokeness.
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 11 March 2024 13:30 (one month ago) link
I don’t know if I agree with that, and also the right framing everything that way has proven a losing battle in many ways
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Monday, 11 March 2024 13:56 (one month ago) link
Yes, not as if they’re going to make nice if Kimmel said nothing at all or something conciliatory.
― Dan Worsley, Monday, 11 March 2024 14:05 (one month ago) link
I guess we can cross Jodie Foster off the guest list for the second Trump inauguration.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 11 March 2024 14:08 (one month ago) link
Yeah, c'mon, the right wasn't going to suddenly toast Kimmel for a good job, so fuck it, it was a well delivered line.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 11 March 2024 14:10 (one month ago) link
Any chance to platform Trump as a whiny asshole more outraged about an awards show than atrocities in Ukraine and Gaza is a good thing.
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 11 March 2024 14:15 (one month ago) link
it really does make the right upset that virtually nobody famous likes them, that's why people like Aaron Rodgers make up conspiracy theories about Jimmy Kimmel and why people like Kid Rock and the Kevin Sorbo were able to make a second career catering to these idiots (though that does sometimes come at the expense of your first career, as the Dilbert guy found out). maybe the whole Trump thing really is that simple, he was the first household name who actually (pretended to) like them
― frogbs, Monday, 11 March 2024 14:17 (one month ago) link
I knew I should've qualified my sentence! And it was a good line.
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 11 March 2024 14:17 (one month ago) link
It also shows that the George Stephanopoulos interview with Nancy Mace pissed Trump off majorly.
― President Keyes, Monday, 11 March 2024 14:22 (one month ago) link
that interview was horrific, hopefully Stephanopoulos is not the last person to ask why they are so willing to support a rapist
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Monday, 11 March 2024 14:27 (one month ago) link
I mean this is a journalist's dream right? Trump has done so many utterly indefensible things, now actual juries are finding him liable so you can't say "its all politics", all you have to do is hold their feet to the fire
― frogbs, Monday, 11 March 2024 14:46 (one month ago) link
Oh, his followers are still saying it's all politics. They will believe he is being persecuted for political reasons even as he is led away in leg irons.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 11 March 2024 14:52 (one month ago) link
it generally seems to be the opposite, holding him accountable is the thing they fear the most, especially if they can't balance it out with similar crimes by the Bidens
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Monday, 11 March 2024 14:53 (one month ago) link
I think that is what the top brass clearly wants but for individual reporters there's no bigger dream than bringing down a president or presidential candidate
― frogbs, Monday, 11 March 2024 15:00 (one month ago) link
All interviews with politicians should be by Isaac Chotiner
― from a prominent family of bassoon players (Boring, Maryland), Monday, 11 March 2024 15:34 (one month ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXLbfGSB5cs
― scott seward, Monday, 11 March 2024 18:34 (one month ago) link
he's so dumb. and weird.
'zuckerbucks'! that's pretty good
― Andy the Grasshopper, Monday, 11 March 2024 18:36 (one month ago) link
what on earth is he talking about
― tobo73, Monday, 11 March 2024 19:22 (one month ago) link
He just riffs and riffs and riffs with zero concern for making any sense
― tobo73, Monday, 11 March 2024 19:26 (one month ago) link
whatever he's literally saying, his reckless rudeness conveys that he inherited a blessed $400,000,000 and is therefore worth more than almost everyone else who's ever lived, so get on board pro-life sunday church-goers, amen
― reggie (qualmsley), Monday, 11 March 2024 19:51 (one month ago) link
Wow.. a new low
Trump mocks Biden's stutter. #classy pic.twitter.com/4nzO552DHE— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) March 9, 2024
― Andy the Grasshopper, Monday, 11 March 2024 22:39 (one month ago) link
That’s an old low
― cozen itt (wins), Monday, 11 March 2024 22:42 (one month ago) link
You really got him, Donnie, ZING
― Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 11 March 2024 22:43 (one month ago) link
good point:
Writing in The Atlantic, John Hendrickson, who has described himself as a lifelong stutterer, noted, “More than Trump’s ugly taunt, one thing stands out to me about these moments: the sound of Trump’s supporters laughing right along with him. This is a building block of Trumpism. The man at the top gives his followers permission to be the worst version of themselves.”
― Andy the Grasshopper, Monday, 11 March 2024 22:45 (one month ago) link
yeah i don't think a lot of his followers need him to be the worst version of themselves. they are probably good at it all on their own.
― scott seward, Monday, 11 March 2024 22:46 (one month ago) link
well, he got a good laugh out of it, so I'm sure we'll hear plenty more.. he's testing out material
― Andy the Grasshopper, Monday, 11 March 2024 22:52 (one month ago) link
makes it even sadder that he lost by seven million votes to a stutterer ;_;
― mookieproof, Monday, 11 March 2024 23:10 (one month ago) link
i can tell you're lyingcos when you're replying
― CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Monday, 11 March 2024 23:57 (one month ago) link
Good news, everybody! The usual Trumpian business brilliance has affected an organization that he certainly won't be needing to do anything major in the next few months in particular...
RNC fires dozens of employees after Trump-backed leadership takes over
― Tahuti Watches L&O:SVU Reruns Without His Ape (unperson), Tuesday, 12 March 2024 00:01 (one month ago) link
To be replaced by some neo-Nazi teens.
― from a prominent family of bassoon players (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 12 March 2024 00:02 (one month ago) link
Trump said: “There’s nobody that’s better, smarter or a better leader than Viktor Orbán. He’s fantastic, he’s a non-controversial figure because he says, ‘This is the way it’s going to be,’ and that’s the end of it. Right? He’s the boss. No, he’s a great leader.”
nothing controversial about autocracy I guess
― Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 12 March 2024 00:28 (one month ago) link
Keep talking, pal, right into jail
― Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 12 March 2024 00:35 (one month ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eiyfwZVAzGw
― President Keyes, Tuesday, 12 March 2024 00:43 (one month ago) link
he did say that Orbán is a better leader than him, a rare display of humility
― Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 12 March 2024 00:47 (one month ago) link
Yeah Orban the leader of an economy smaller than Alabama.
― The Artist formerly known as Earlnash, Tuesday, 12 March 2024 01:20 (one month ago) link
Good advice
Donald Trump’s second White House chief of staff tried to stop him praising Adolf Hitler in part by trying to convince the then president Benito Mussolini, the Italian fascist dictator, was “a great guy in comparison”.
“He said, ‘Well, but Hitler did some good things,’” the retired marines general John Kelly told Jim Sciutto of CNN in an interview for a new book.
“I said, ‘Well, what?’ And he said, ‘Well, (Hitler) rebuilt the economy.’ But what did he do with that rebuilt economy? He turned it against his own people and against the world. And I said, ‘Sir, you can never say anything good about the guy. Nothing. I mean, Mussolini was a great guy in comparison.”
― Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 12 March 2024 18:16 (one month ago) link
Okay that’s a little too on the nose
― Cemetry Gaetz (DJP), Tuesday, 12 March 2024 19:14 (one month ago) link
Pretty canny move on Kelly's part, Trump apes a lot of Mussolini's gestures, whether consciously or unconciously.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 12 March 2024 19:17 (one month ago) link
apes is right
― President Keyes, Tuesday, 12 March 2024 19:20 (one month ago) link
Kind of insulting to Mussolini tbh.
― man in suit and red tie raising his fist (Tom D.), Tuesday, 12 March 2024 19:42 (one month ago) link
"Hitler did some good things" should be immediately answered by "get the fuck out of here."
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 12 March 2024 19:44 (one month ago) link
"Yeah, he killed himself."
― President Keyes, Tuesday, 12 March 2024 19:46 (one month ago) link
what if Trump became a vegetarian in emulation of der fuhrer
― Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 12 March 2024 19:48 (one month ago) link
what if Trump became a vegetable and Hitler ate him.
― President Keyes, Tuesday, 12 March 2024 19:53 (one month ago) link
What if Trump lost one of his balls in emulation of Hitler.
― man in suit and red tie raising his fist (Tom D.), Tuesday, 12 March 2024 19:55 (one month ago) link
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, March 12, 2024 2:17 PM (thirty-one minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
I've spent the last eight years waiting for the good people of the USA to aid him in aping Mussolini's ultimate gesture.
― Great-Tasting Burger Perceptions (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 12 March 2024 19:55 (one month ago) link
His balls are well past their sell by date.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 12 March 2024 19:55 (one month ago) link
So he can afford to lose one.
― man in suit and red tie raising his fist (Tom D.), Tuesday, 12 March 2024 19:56 (one month ago) link
xxp I can't think of anyone (in this country at least) who more richly deserves it.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 12 March 2024 19:56 (one month ago) link
He really is a master aper, all those hours watching The Gorilla Channel paid off.
― henry s, Tuesday, 12 March 2024 20:00 (one month ago) link
One of the great apers
― President Keyes, Tuesday, 12 March 2024 20:02 (one month ago) link
People come up to me, big strong men with tears in their eyes, they say, Sir, we have never seen a better aper.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 12 March 2024 20:03 (one month ago) link
No it's "Sir, we have never seen a better diaper."
― alpaca lips now (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 13 March 2024 03:21 (one month ago) link
a wetter diaper
― epistantophus, Wednesday, 13 March 2024 03:45 (one month ago) link
Not a bad late-period Stones album.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 13 March 2024 13:13 (one month ago) link
No, not that.
― Mark G, Wednesday, 13 March 2024 14:05 (one month ago) link
Judge McAfee dismissed 6 of the 41 counts in the Georgia case. The prosecution can refile, though.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 13 March 2024 18:50 (one month ago) link
go to 4:15 of this. i'm sorry for posting kimmel again but i couldn't find the video of this woman singing to trump anywhere else! it is beyond the beyond. i really want to hear the whole song...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3ljHhR8XPA
― scott seward, Wednesday, 13 March 2024 22:04 (one month ago) link
i'm afraid i'd have to go to truth social to see the whole thing...
― scott seward, Wednesday, 13 March 2024 22:05 (one month ago) link
^^"Rats Eating Our Marijuana" for April Thread Title
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 13 March 2024 22:15 (one month ago) link
if anyone can find an entire clip of that woman singing i will give you a cookie. the best cookie. nobody has ever made a better cookie.
― scott seward, Thursday, 14 March 2024 02:07 (one month ago) link
regardless of what you think of Jimmy himself his writing/research staff is pretty good. they really know how to portray what a weirdo he is
― frogbs, Thursday, 14 March 2024 02:42 (one month ago) link
they are on the ball for sure. and not just with trump. the whole gang of idiots.
― scott seward, Thursday, 14 March 2024 02:45 (one month ago) link
I wish to nominate "Nobody has been treated like Trump in terms of badly" for April's thread title.
Trump: Nobody has been treated like Trump in terms of badly pic.twitter.com/56jNtji8Ah— Acyn (@Acyn) March 14, 2024
― Tahuti Watches L&O:SVU Reruns Without His Ape (unperson), Thursday, 14 March 2024 03:16 (one month ago) link
Maybe if a good non-Trump one ever comes along, that would be nice.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 14 March 2024 03:19 (one month ago) link
I'll give him that one it's one of his best quotes
― frogbs, Thursday, 14 March 2024 03:22 (one month ago) link
The marijuana one is actually about a rat infestation in the evidence room of the New Orleans police department, and an apt statement on life in these here United States in the year of the diety of your choice 2024.
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 14 March 2024 03:25 (one month ago) link
Deity, although Diet-y fits too.
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 14 March 2024 03:26 (one month ago) link
stoned rats sums up trump's crew pretty succinctly too.
― scott seward, Thursday, 14 March 2024 03:31 (one month ago) link
if he even has a crew anymore...
so apparently one fairly significant development in the classified docs case is Jack Smith is now using the term "sale and delivery" which he wasn't using before. I guess the belief is he wouldn't use that term unless he actually had evidence of it and if evidence of Trump not just retaining but SELLING classified docs comes out its gonna be insane watching the GOP still find ways to stand behind him. like I don't think even the most corrupt governments on the planet have seen anything like that
― frogbs, Thursday, 14 March 2024 03:40 (one month ago) link
The GOP will find ways to stand behind him. They will be insane. It won't matter.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 14 March 2024 03:44 (one month ago) link
as always, struck afresh that this whiny, mewling self-pitier is given a platform and a large number of people think of him as strong somehow.
― assert (matttkkkk), Thursday, 14 March 2024 03:57 (one month ago) link
I'm sure his deal making skills will be roundly praised.
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Thursday, 14 March 2024 04:20 (one month ago) link
Well, he is a successful businessman.
― nickn, Thursday, 14 March 2024 04:55 (one month ago) link
Too bad the classified docs case will never go to trial.
― from a prominent family of bassoon players (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 14 March 2024 12:12 (one month ago) link
This may be the best thing I’ve ever watched.Volume up and put on those dancing shoes. pic.twitter.com/u0PtLGf8Qh— Scottacular (@Scottcrates) March 13, 2024
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 14 March 2024 12:17 (one month ago) link
that is the most deeply ick millennial-core thing i have seen in months, FPed
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Thursday, 14 March 2024 13:25 (one month ago) link
Trump says Hillary Clinton used acid that would essentially destroy everything within 10 miles and Bill Clinton took classified material in his socks pic.twitter.com/2s6vtlJEcY— Acyn (@Acyn) March 14, 2024
― frogbs, Thursday, 14 March 2024 13:35 (one month ago) link
― from a prominent family of bassoon players (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 14 March 2024 13:41 (one month ago) link
Anyway the best thing I have ever watched was a man piss over the edge of a canyon
For me it’s always going to be the squirrel eating a Ritz cracker to “If This Is It” by Huey Lewis and the News.
― henry s, Thursday, 14 March 2024 14:06 (one month ago) link
"...you, know the famous socks case, which he actually ended up winning..."https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/sites/default/files/imagecache/gallery_img_full/image/image_file/Socks_cat_1_0.JPG?itok=6BQNR7GT
― Is he an evil man who makes chocolate or is the chocolate itself evil? (stevie), Thursday, 14 March 2024 14:14 (one month ago) link
lol I don't know what millennial-core is, but I regretted posting it as soon as I posted it.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 14 March 2024 15:58 (one month ago) link
it's bad and you should feel bad
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 14 March 2024 15:58 (one month ago) link
Make me feel bad enough about myself and I'll have no choice but to vote for Trump.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 14 March 2024 16:03 (one month ago) link
the spiral into the alt-right begins when someone calls you cringe
― President Keyes, Thursday, 14 March 2024 16:18 (one month ago) link
everything will be all better if you just watch this. still the greatest.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuC3t-d0Zao
― scott seward, Thursday, 14 March 2024 16:47 (one month ago) link
I have a friend who used to be a record store guy and who (like nearly all record store guys) would add his own editorial stickers to new releases, comparing whoever it was to other bands, some of which were made up. My favorite of such made-up bands was Ernest Borgnine Jr.
― henry s, Thursday, 14 March 2024 17:02 (one month ago) link
nothing beats Ernest in BASEketball, when he appears in a recorded video at his funeral and asks everybody but Coop to leave the room, nobody does, and then he starts dancing/singing "I'm Too Sexy"
― CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Thursday, 14 March 2024 17:25 (one month ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/uhfLB7P.png
― default damager (lukas), Thursday, 14 March 2024 22:57 (one month ago) link
WTF
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 14 March 2024 23:11 (one month ago) link
lucian truscott iii otm
"Donald Trump, for all his carefully curated reputation as a billionaire, which we now know is about as solid as a pile of melting snow along a random roadside, was one of those free-floating-money guys, out there in business-world-land, grabbing $5 million here and a few hundred thousand there and making his own private decisions about how, or whether, he would report the money as income. And then, in 2015, he decided to run for president and what do you know, he was elected and had to start filling out stuff like FEC forms, where it’s not so easy to attribute or even hide money.
"While in office, Donald Trump became addicted to perks like Air Force One, on which he repeatedly flew down to Mar-a-Lago or over to Bedminster to play a round of golf and then flew back. So, he decided after losing the White House to Joe Biden in 2020 that he would like to go back to flying around on Air Force One and decided to run for election again. To this end, he enlisted a gaggle of half-wits in the House of Representatives to engender an impeachment of his rival, President Biden, and they began casting about for 'evidence' that 'the Biden crime family' had committed the same sort of crimes the Trump crime family had committed."
https://factkeepers.com/the-sneaky-snakey-world-of-donald-trumps-america/
― reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 15 March 2024 21:23 (one month ago) link
man, nothing says "successful Manhattan real estate titan" like Jared's sweet new deals:
"One of the proposed projects would be the development of an island off the coast of Albania into a luxury tourist destination.
A second — with a planned luxury hotel and 1,500 residential units and a museum — is in Belgrade, the capital of Serbia, at the site of the long-vacant former headquarters of the Yugoslav Army destroyed in 1999 by the NATO bombings, according to a member of Parliament in Serbia and Mr. Kushner’s company.
These first two projects both involve land now controlled by the governments, meaning a deal would have to be finalized with foreign governments."
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/15/us/politics/jared-kushner-pursuing-development-deals-in-albania-and-serbia.html
― scott seward, Saturday, 16 March 2024 02:57 (one month ago) link
its almost like he's preparing Putin's future retirement digs.
― scott seward, Saturday, 16 March 2024 02:58 (one month ago) link
but what do i know. maybe vacations to Serbia and Albania are all the rage these days for wealthy eco-tourists.
― scott seward, Saturday, 16 March 2024 02:59 (one month ago) link
i would actually like to hang out in Romania. i watched a doc about the forests and mountains there and it looked like heaven.
― scott seward, Saturday, 16 March 2024 03:02 (one month ago) link
Albania supposedly has some of the best unclimbed rocks and boulders in the world, would absolutely go to Albania.
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Saturday, 16 March 2024 11:23 (one month ago) link
I've been to Albania, it's a little like Greece and parts of Italy. I'd heard it'd been rising the tourist ranks, so I guess ... true.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 16 March 2024 12:06 (one month ago) link
This reminds me of Trump's big 2:00 AM speech from North Korea where his main point was about their miles of beautiful beaches awaiting resorts from American developers.
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 16 March 2024 12:53 (one month ago) link
I've been to Albania, it's a little like Greece and parts of Italy.
I've been hereI've been thereI've been every fucking where
― CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Saturday, 16 March 2024 13:06 (one month ago) link
good morning1
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 16 March 2024 13:09 (one month ago) link
I've never been to Italy, but I've seen pictures!
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 16 March 2024 13:20 (one month ago) link
"Corruption is still considered one of the most problematic factors for establishing business in Albania.[6] Even though anti-corruption legal framework of Albania is moderate, its enforcement is weak and corruption conviction rates are still very low."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corruption_in_Albania
― scott seward, Saturday, 16 March 2024 13:39 (one month ago) link
sounds like a good fit for jared. it all makes sense now.
i looked it up. serbia is much the same. my point being: if you were a bigshot real estate guy wouldn't you be buying a hotel in los angeles or miami or tokyo or somewhere fancy? my conspiracy spidey senses are tingling. you pretty much have to deal with heavy mobsters if you do business in serbia. maybe nobody else wants him around.
― scott seward, Saturday, 16 March 2024 13:43 (one month ago) link
I think that's pretty OTM. These assholes aren't subtle.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 16 March 2024 14:17 (one month ago) link
This kind of thing predates his presidency. I'm reminded of this article from shortly after he took office:"The President helped build a hotel in Azerbaijan that appears to be a corrupt operation engineered by oligarchs tied to Iran’s Revolutionary Guard."https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/03/13/donald-trumps-worst-deal
― jaymc, Saturday, 16 March 2024 14:38 (one month ago) link
I've been to Albania but I've never been to me
― m0stly clean (Slowsquatch), Saturday, 16 March 2024 14:48 (one month ago) link
That story about the tower in Azerbaijan illustrated so many big bright glaring red flags and alarm signals, but the fact that afaict literally nothing came of it pretty definitely put to rest any hope that any of these people would ever face any real consequences, as much as I'd love to see it happen.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 16 March 2024 15:06 (one month ago) link
man, reading some article about the horrible conditions in jared's apartment complexes down south was so gross. just the worst kind of slumlord stuff.
― scott seward, Saturday, 16 March 2024 19:47 (one month ago) link
is this the same Jared who brought peace to the Middle East?
― StanM, Saturday, 16 March 2024 21:26 (one month ago) link
Yes, and he fixed the prison system.
I heard on the news that Steven Mnuchin is gonna buy Tiktok for Trump. Trumptok. Truhthtik.
https://www.cnbc.com/2024/03/14/former-treasury-secretary-mnuchin-is-putting-together-an-investor-group-to-buy-tiktok.html
― scott seward, Saturday, 16 March 2024 22:05 (one month ago) link
This is how they reach the yutes, you see.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Saturday, 16 March 2024 22:08 (one month ago) link
his wife's new movie was a really good investment...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dESyA8IgA_M
― scott seward, Saturday, 16 March 2024 22:12 (one month ago) link
oh no!https://www.politico.com/news/2024/03/16/trump-bloodbath-biden-november-00147453
― StanM, Sunday, 17 March 2024 11:40 (one month ago) link
to fair, this country DOES need a bath. have you smelled it lately?
― scott seward, Sunday, 17 March 2024 12:00 (one month ago) link
“This is who Donald Trump is: a loser who gets beat by over 7 million votes and then instead of appealing to a wider mainstream audience doubles down on his threats of political violence,” Biden campaign spokesperson James Singer said in a statement.
i mean, this is inarguable. and it's terrifying anyone, let alone such a large minority, would vote for Trump. I know that's naive and obvious but it should be said more often.
― Is he an evil man who makes chocolate or is the chocolate itself evil? (stevie), Sunday, 17 March 2024 12:05 (one month ago) link
And similarly naive and obvious, if a brown-skinned politico threatened a bloodbath if they didn't win a vote, there'd be a bullet between their eyes before anyone could pontificate.
― Is he an evil man who makes chocolate or is the chocolate itself evil? (stevie), Sunday, 17 March 2024 12:06 (one month ago) link
Sleeve OTM
― Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Sunday, 17 March 2024 12:18 (one month ago) link
Wouldn't have thought it possible for him to get significantly worse in the last few weeks, but here we are I guess, openly threatening "a bloodbath" and referring to immigrants as non-humans.
― This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Sunday, 17 March 2024 12:45 (one month ago) link
chatgpt make a picture of djt dying like frank pentangeli
― ... 2024-- there's one clear winner! (Hunt3r), Sunday, 17 March 2024 14:11 (one month ago) link
How a sleuth defense attorney and a disgruntled law partner damaged the Trump Georgia case
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2024/03/16/fani-willis-misconduct-accusations-ashleigh-merchant/gift link: https://wapo.st/4cbf3jE
i just want to kindly remind everyone who was trying to shut discussion down about this, at the beginning, because it was so obvious that it was dumb and would have no effect on the case, that you all don't know everything that is going to happen
― z_tbd, Sunday, 17 March 2024 15:26 (one month ago) link
that came off way more whiny than i intended, sorry. i agree that it seemed ridiculous at the beginning, and that it should not have affected the case whatsoever. alas
― z_tbd, Sunday, 17 March 2024 15:43 (one month ago) link
none of this makes Trump innocent but it was bigly stupid
― StanM, Sunday, 17 March 2024 16:04 (one month ago) link
NY Times called his speech in Dayton, Ohio yesterday "freewheeling" where he called migrants "animals" and said there would be a "bloodbath" if he's not elected
― curmudgeon, Sunday, 17 March 2024 17:13 (one month ago) link
The speech was "Dylanesque"
― symsymsym, Sunday, 17 March 2024 17:35 (one month ago) link
Very nice of this country to move Heaven and Earth to ensure this man stays on the ballot
― frogbs, Sunday, 17 March 2024 17:39 (one month ago) link
lol the reporting on the “bloodbath” thing is dumb as fuck
― President Keyes, Sunday, 17 March 2024 17:40 (one month ago) link
The chapter on him in the new Village Voice book is interesting--in the very first piece dating back to the mid-'70s, the writer (Wayne Barrett, I think) is accusing him of overvaluing and undervaluing properties according to the situation.
― clemenza, Sunday, 17 March 2024 17:42 (one month ago) link
― from a prominent family of bassoon players (Boring, Maryland), Sunday, 17 March 2024 17:56 (one month ago) link
Donald learned tax evasion and cooking the books at his daddy's knee.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Sunday, 17 March 2024 18:00 (one month ago) link
And Wayne Barrett for the Voice did a great job for years of covering Trump financial slimy criminal tactics, and the mainstream press largely just ignored Barrett's writing as left wing ranting
― curmudgeon, Sunday, 17 March 2024 18:46 (one month ago) link
NY Times has subsequently updated "freewheeling" article to : Trump Says Some Migrants Are ‘Not People’ and Predicts a ‘Blood Bath’ if He Loses
― curmudgeon, Sunday, 17 March 2024 18:55 (one month ago) link
The NYT learns from its mistakes, then promptly forgets what it learned.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Sunday, 17 March 2024 18:57 (one month ago) link
The chapter on him in the new Village Voice book is interestingRecommended for anyone who likes their books proofread by >1 ilx0r.
― bae (sic), Sunday, 17 March 2024 19:27 (one month ago) link
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Sunday, 17 March 2024 20:43 (one month ago) link
my friend bartended a reggae festival this weekend and these two married assholes in MAGA visors showed up and one of them was loudly complaining that her husband's truck got pissed on because it had MAGA shit written on it, then promptly turned to her husband and told him to eat the pineapples because they would make his 'cum taste gewd'
NYT is attempting to locate the couple for a follow-up
― CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Monday, 18 March 2024 03:28 (one month ago) link
Trump supporters are such massive hypocrites on everything even whether or not the stuff that comes out of your weiner is any good
― frogbs, Monday, 18 March 2024 03:29 (one month ago) link
So he can't secure the bond for the $464 million judgment, but his lawyers argue that he shouldn't have to ... just because ...
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-unable-get-bond-464-million-judgment-lawyers-say-rcna143860
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Monday, 18 March 2024 15:34 (one month ago) link
While the filing says Trump can't afford the bond, it also argues that the attorney general doesn't have to worry about being able to collect her judgment."Defendants’ real estate holdings — including iconic properties like 40 Wall Street, Doral Miami, and Mar-a-Lago, — greatly exceed the amount of the judgment. Such assets are impossible to secrete or dispose of surreptitiously, leaving the plaintiff effectively secured during the pendency of an appeal," the filing said.
"Defendants’ real estate holdings — including iconic properties like 40 Wall Street, Doral Miami, and Mar-a-Lago, — greatly exceed the amount of the judgment. Such assets are impossible to secrete or dispose of surreptitiously, leaving the plaintiff effectively secured during the pendency of an appeal," the filing said.
lol at simultaneously saying you can't come up with the bond, but also don't worry about it, we're good for the money because we have all these expensive properties (that we were literally found guilty of overvaluing in this very case).
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 18 March 2024 15:48 (one month ago) link
“Iconic”
― Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 18 March 2024 15:51 (one month ago) link
"moronic"
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 18 March 2024 16:09 (one month ago) link
banana by the bunch
― CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Monday, 18 March 2024 16:21 (one month ago) link
still wondering what kind of bullshit exception will be made for him but if that doesn't happen wow he is gonna melt down
― the absence of bikes (f. hazel), Monday, 18 March 2024 17:07 (one month ago) link
He already failed once at this request
― CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Monday, 18 March 2024 17:14 (one month ago) link
I’m like, rules don’t apply because they never seem to do
― ... 2024-- there's one clear winner! (Hunt3r), Monday, 18 March 2024 17:16 (one month ago) link
he will have to sell his new jersey golf course. they can throw ivana in for free to sweeten the deal.
― scott seward, Monday, 18 March 2024 17:17 (one month ago) link
No money, mo’ problems”
― Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 18 March 2024 17:17 (one month ago) link
...I was kind of on the fence, but I heard that he gave a speech that was freewheeling and discursive, so now I'm leaning dud...
― m0stly clean (Slowsquatch), Monday, 18 March 2024 17:35 (one month ago) link
https://e.snmc.io/i/600/w/9f432ce462654ea526571f175d85e1df/7607057/diaframma-anni-luce-Cover-Art.png
― President Keyes, Monday, 18 March 2024 17:37 (one month ago) link
Some useful nuts/bolts commentary via WaPo:
Surety companies are requiring Trump to put up the entire amount needed for the bond, around $464 million, in collateral, according to the defense filing. Legal experts said that a likelihood of the appeal failing is the main reason companies would mandate such terms.“Insurance companies in appeals cases tend to want the full amount of the judgment as collateral,” said Adam Pollock, an attorney who formerly served as assistant attorney general in New York.Surety companies generally accept only cash or an irrevocable letter of credit as collateral, according to JD Weisbrot, who has worked in the business for more than 20 years and is a managing director at the underwriting firm Risk Strategies.Someone with assets like Trump, who has the majority of his fortune tied up in real estate, would ideally go through a bank to get that letter of credit, Weisbrot said. A bank would also likely want the full amount of the bond in collateral but might accept many more types of collateral, including deeds to real estate, fine art or other assets, he said. That could free up funds for someone who owns lots of property.“My feeling is a bank would likely take a similar position as a surety and likely also require a dollar-for-dollar amount in collateral,” he said. “But a bank is more flexible as a financial situation than a surety would be in terms of the type of collateral.”Trump has few existing relationships with big banks on Wall Street, according to a financial disclosure he filed with the government in August as part of his candidacy. Deutsche Bank, which provided him with a number of loans that fueled the expansion of his business before he entered politics, does not appear to be a current lender.
“Insurance companies in appeals cases tend to want the full amount of the judgment as collateral,” said Adam Pollock, an attorney who formerly served as assistant attorney general in New York.
Surety companies generally accept only cash or an irrevocable letter of credit as collateral, according to JD Weisbrot, who has worked in the business for more than 20 years and is a managing director at the underwriting firm Risk Strategies.
Someone with assets like Trump, who has the majority of his fortune tied up in real estate, would ideally go through a bank to get that letter of credit, Weisbrot said. A bank would also likely want the full amount of the bond in collateral but might accept many more types of collateral, including deeds to real estate, fine art or other assets, he said. That could free up funds for someone who owns lots of property.
“My feeling is a bank would likely take a similar position as a surety and likely also require a dollar-for-dollar amount in collateral,” he said. “But a bank is more flexible as a financial situation than a surety would be in terms of the type of collateral.”
Trump has few existing relationships with big banks on Wall Street, according to a financial disclosure he filed with the government in August as part of his candidacy. Deutsche Bank, which provided him with a number of loans that fueled the expansion of his business before he entered politics, does not appear to be a current lender.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 March 2024 17:58 (one month ago) link
The Carroll bond, FWIW, has collateral in an investment account at Schwab per filings, which by default took $100 million of his money off the table; it obviously can't be pledged twice.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 March 2024 17:59 (one month ago) link
it obviously can't be pledged twice
Which one could almost guarantee was his first thought.
― Tahuti Watches L&O:SVU Reruns Without His Ape (unperson), Monday, 18 March 2024 20:11 (one month ago) link
Trump's first school project, selling slices of pie, got out of hand when he sold the same 20 slices 457 times
also never paid for the pies that he sold
― CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Monday, 18 March 2024 20:13 (one month ago) link
xpost Haha believe me, I would love to see that happen because the shitshow that would result.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 March 2024 20:14 (one month ago) link
Barely related: the owner of a printing company I worked at got busted for using the same press as collateral for two different loans to buy new presses, plus other assorted financial crimes. He had a plea offer of 18 months but was absolutely sure he could win at trial...wound up serving 9.5 years.
― UKXEPCTED TWITS (WmC), Monday, 18 March 2024 20:24 (one month ago) link
Someone with assets like Trump, who has the majority of his fortune tied up in real estate, would ideally go through a bank to get that letter of credit
Oh you just wait, he's got some property assessments to show you, he'll send them right over
― Andy the Grasshopper, Monday, 18 March 2024 20:25 (one month ago) link
A little more about that Carroll bond:
https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_fullsize/plain/did:plc:yxavlmxjv2j2nwvjesmq5ogl/bafkreieizdbxz5tfsvw5rgxqpkofsxbvohjvk2hibyncykxso63zrczx7q@jpeg
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 19 March 2024 02:56 (one month ago) link
I am delighted to see that Trump shoved off part of the responsibility onto the failson.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 19 March 2024 02:57 (one month ago) link
Meantime, not unrelatedly I am sure:
Donald Trump’s reelection campaign has begun to see warning signs that the small-dollar donors who fueled his last run for the White House have slowed their support to the former president this year, according to people familiar with the matter.Since late last year, members of Trump’s team have been warned by Republican Party advisors that their small-dollar donor base could be shrinking, said the sources, who were granted anonymity to discuss internal campaign matters.Some have even been told there may not be much that the former president or his campaign can do to win back these key donors, the sources explained.
Since late last year, members of Trump’s team have been warned by Republican Party advisors that their small-dollar donor base could be shrinking, said the sources, who were granted anonymity to discuss internal campaign matters.
Some have even been told there may not be much that the former president or his campaign can do to win back these key donors, the sources explained.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 19 March 2024 03:08 (one month ago) link
clap harder or tinkerbell gets it you sobs
― ... 2024-- there's one clear winner! (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 19 March 2024 03:10 (one month ago) link
there may not be much that the former president or his campaign can do to win back these key donors
Public executions
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 19 March 2024 03:38 (one month ago) link
Well he killed a large number of them
― Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Tuesday, 19 March 2024 03:40 (one month ago) link
https://www.cnn.com/2024/03/18/politics/trump-allies-election-defamation-case-leak-dominion-emails/index.html
Lambert attended a hearing Monday in Byrne’s defamation case in Washington, DC, but was never seen leaving the courtroom, and questions swirled among the other attorneys about whether she had been taken into custody.The judge told Lambert to stay behind as the hearing wrapped up. The other attorneys left the courtroom, and two federal marshals then went inside and locked the doors. Lambert was never seen exiting the courtroom. The marshals declined to say whether they arrested her, and she didn’t answer messages seeking comment after the hearing.“The U.S. Marshals Service can confirm the arrest of Stefanie Lambert earlier this afternoon. Lambert is currently being held on local charges,” the statement said, referring to her Michigan-based criminal case.
The judge told Lambert to stay behind as the hearing wrapped up. The other attorneys left the courtroom, and two federal marshals then went inside and locked the doors. Lambert was never seen exiting the courtroom. The marshals declined to say whether they arrested her, and she didn’t answer messages seeking comment after the hearing.
“The U.S. Marshals Service can confirm the arrest of Stefanie Lambert earlier this afternoon. Lambert is currently being held on local charges,” the statement said, referring to her Michigan-based criminal case.
― felicity, Tuesday, 19 March 2024 08:00 (one month ago) link
i wondered why dominion hasn't gone after trump and i guessed that it would probably just be a supreme court headache to go after a president and then i found this which was interesting. most of these people asked think dominion would have a strong case. and i definitely think we need one more long and protracted court case against trump.
https://www.justsecurity.org/82447/8-top-experts-on-strength-of-a-dominion-defamation-case-against-donald-trump/
― scott seward, Tuesday, 19 March 2024 11:57 (one month ago) link
Nothing to do with what is currently going on with Trump, but I disliked him randomly showing up in an article I was reading which seemingly should have had nothing to do with him:
Trump has directly supported the use of asbestos, writing in his 1997 book The Art of the Comeback that it is "100% safe, once applied." He blamed the mob for efforts to discontinue its use: "I believe that the movement against asbestos was led by the mob, because it was often mob-related companies that would do the asbestos removal." In 2018, a Russian asbestos company began marketing the carcinogenic mineral with Trump's image and a seal reading "Approved by Donald Trump, 45th President of the United States." Russia has been a primary supplier of asbestos to the US.Trump is once again running for president and could move to undo the ban if he wins in November. That is one of the reasons some are calling on Congress to pass a law to ban all types of asbestos outright, The New York Times reported. Senator Jeff Merkley (D-Ore.) said the EPA's move today is "a long overdue step forward for public health. However, it cannot be the end of the road when it comes to phasing out other dangerous asbestos fibers, and Congress has a role to play here when it comes to providing stronger protections for our health."
Trump is once again running for president and could move to undo the ban if he wins in November. That is one of the reasons some are calling on Congress to pass a law to ban all types of asbestos outright, The New York Times reported. Senator Jeff Merkley (D-Ore.) said the EPA's move today is "a long overdue step forward for public health. However, it cannot be the end of the road when it comes to phasing out other dangerous asbestos fibers, and Congress has a role to play here when it comes to providing stronger protections for our health."
https://arstechnica.com/science/2024/03/epa-finally-bans-the-last-type-of-asbestos-used-in-us/
― silverfish, Tuesday, 19 March 2024 13:22 (one month ago) link
Trump should start incorporating asbestos into his makeup foundation, to make himself fireproof.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 19 March 2024 13:29 (one month ago) link
Really, though, that's like a perfect Trump bingo. It involves dangerous science denial, financial self-interest, accusing someone else of your own criminality, and Russia.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 19 March 2024 13:33 (one month ago) link
"100% safe, once applied."
lol, incredible.
someone might have once told Malcolm McLaren this, without adding the important bit about not smashing holes into it with a hammer
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 19 March 2024 14:08 (one month ago) link
make asbestos great again
― ... 2024-- there's one clear winner! (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 19 March 2024 14:25 (one month ago) link
https://newrepublic.com/post/179928/alina-habba-trump-bedminister-hush-money-lawsuit-settlement
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 19 March 2024 22:55 (one month ago) link
I'm leaning dud.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 19 March 2024 22:56 (one month ago) link
these people...
― scott seward, Tuesday, 19 March 2024 22:59 (one month ago) link
Just another "Trump bites lawyer" story!
The settlement contract included a bizarre and hugely significant line that stated both “parties agree that Alina Habba is not a party to this release,” The Daily Beast reported Tuesday.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 20 March 2024 00:29 (one month ago) link
I'm not even waiting for him to suffer real legal consequences at this point, I'm waiting for every lawyer and financial advisor and vendor he's ever stiffed to all get together and Ides of March his ass.
― Tahuti Watches L&O:SVU Reruns Without His Ape (unperson), Wednesday, 20 March 2024 00:41 (one month ago) link
"Et tu, Rudy?"
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 20 March 2024 00:51 (one month ago) link
That lawyer might be getting disbarred. You can't do that shit.
― il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Wednesday, 20 March 2024 01:24 (one month ago) link
― tobo73, Wednesday, 20 March 2024 02:19 (one month ago) link
Ok I read the whole article and now see who you’re talking about. Yeah she seems very very shady.
― tobo73, Wednesday, 20 March 2024 02:21 (one month ago) link
Alina Habba? Shady?
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 20 March 2024 02:44 (one month ago) link
I strongly suspect that it's occurred to him that she's kinda heavily responsible for all the money issues lately given the excellence of her work on said two cases he's coughing up for.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 20 March 2024 03:17 (one month ago) link
‘they knew what they signed up for’
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 20 March 2024 03:20 (one month ago) link
is the story that he can't pay the full $454 mill or that he can't even secure a bond? like I wouldn't expect him to have that much cash on band, but if he can't secure a bond...he should only need like $15 mil for that, if he ain't got that then lol
― frogbs, Wednesday, 20 March 2024 03:41 (one month ago) link
aiui, one difficulty in Trump's securing a bond is the perception that his appeal is very likely to fail, mainly because the evidence of fraud is incontrovertible and the judge handled the case so as not to give any technical or procedural grounds for dismissal, to say nothing of Trump's lifelong propensity to stiff anybody he can by any means available, because he's as crooked as a dog's hind leg.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 20 March 2024 03:51 (one month ago) link
xp aiui it's not the cost of the bond that's the issue but that no one will accept his collateral. it's to be seen whether or not he can pay the full amount.
― visiting, Wednesday, 20 March 2024 03:51 (one month ago) link
Worth noting that, as yet, the NYAG have yet to file anything in response. I suspect they will, but I half wonder if a clock is being run out just a little bit more.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 20 March 2024 03:53 (one month ago) link
Wonder if it might also be harder to bond it than a regular civil judgment, as a fraud judgment is not dischargeable in bankruptcy, where a regular civil judgment might be.
https://www.pbwt.com/bankruptcy-update-blog/supreme-court-holds-that-fraud-exception-to-debt-discharge-can-include-fraud-by-someone-other-than-the-debtor#:~:text=Section%20523%20of%20the%20Bankruptcy,a)(2)(A).
― felicity, Wednesday, 20 March 2024 04:05 (one month ago) link
is the story that he can't pay the full $454 mill or that he can't even secure a bond?
Both, but especially the latter. No one will lend him the money. And as I understand it, barring a stay from some appeals court, the NY Attorney General's office can start seizing assets on March 25.
― Tahuti Watches L&O:SVU Reruns Without His Ape (unperson), Wednesday, 20 March 2024 04:15 (one month ago) link
A process which isn’t automatic — it’s not like she’ll get everything like that — but still, not great for him!
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 20 March 2024 05:01 (one month ago) link
I believe visiting is right re: the issue with the bond is the collateral. Trump doesn't have access to normal lending and the lending/bonding he does have access to will want assets equal to the full value of the bond, not some portion of the bond. Some of these limited sources will accept real estate as collateral, which is Trump's significant assets, but it is complicated, apparently.
― il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Wednesday, 20 March 2024 11:44 (one month ago) link
*only* significant
I can't imagine it happening, but if the seizing started they should start with Mar a Lago and send his whole life into disarray.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 20 March 2024 12:05 (one month ago) link
I'm imagining Trump refusing to turn over the keys to Mar a Lago, hiding them behind his back, running around the grounds being chased by the deputies come to execute, while the Benny Hill song plays.
― il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Wednesday, 20 March 2024 12:19 (one month ago) link
I’m imagining him getting taken down like Scarface, except his “little friend” is just Giuliani.
― epistantophus, Wednesday, 20 March 2024 12:27 (one month ago) link
doesn't florida have special *not my mansion you don't* laws? i thought that was why all those assholes lived down there.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 20 March 2024 12:36 (one month ago) link
Waco style stand off or gtf.
― Tom D (the first British Asian ILXor) (Tom D.), Wednesday, 20 March 2024 12:50 (one month ago) link
I'm imagining Trump refusing to turn over the keys to Mar a Lago, hiding them behind his back, running motoring his Rascal around the grounds being chased by the deputies come to execute, while the Benny Hill song plays.
― henry s, Wednesday, 20 March 2024 12:58 (one month ago) link
lol PBKR
― Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 20 March 2024 12:58 (one month ago) link
The thing is, we all can imagine this scene so easily
Tossing the keys to a Secret Service guy, who tosses them to another Secret Service guy, etc
― Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 20 March 2024 12:59 (one month ago) link
doesn't florida have special *not my mansion you don't* laws?
Art. X, Section 4 of the Florida Constitution exempts every state resident's homestead from "forced sale under process of any court, and no judgment, decree or execution shall be a lien thereon."
But of course there is the question of whether it even is, legally, his residence, which it probably isn't, because there is nothing about this asshole that is ever cut and dry, legally. He's probably a legal resident of Curacao or some shit.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 20 March 2024 13:07 (one month ago) link
Maybe our Floridians can provide insight but it looks houses can be foreclosed on and sold by the mortgagers. Florida was one of the worst places hit in the foreclosure crisis.
― Slorg is not on the Slerf Team, you idiot, you moron (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 20 March 2024 13:32 (one month ago) link
Mar a Lago is deed restricted and cannot be anyone's residence, ever. So that would not protect it. Trump is only allowed to live there as an employee of the club.
― the absence of bikes (f. hazel), Wednesday, 20 March 2024 14:12 (one month ago) link
“Who Will Buy My Memories?” (Mar A Lago remix featuring Pit Bull).
― The Artist formerly known as Earlnash, Wednesday, 20 March 2024 14:18 (one month ago) link
The January 6 Hostage Choir- "I Ain't Got No Home in This World"
― President Keyes, Wednesday, 20 March 2024 14:24 (one month ago) link
Haha this is pretty obviously the guy himself calling into the NY Post and trying to spin this.
https://nypost.com/2024/03/20/business/donald-trump-may-not-pay-bond-and-instead-let-letitia-james-seize-trump-tower-insiders/
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 20 March 2024 14:43 (one month ago) link
Donald Trump may not pay bond — and instead let Letitia James seize Trump Tower: insiders
As Donald Trump faces a Monday deadline to post a $454 million bond in the civil fraud case against him in New York, insiders said he may be weighing a little-discussed option: Doing nothing.The ex-president reportedly has been struggling to raise the cash for the bond — either from banks or wealthy friends — with his lawyers claiming on Monday that it was a “practical impossibility.” While some reports have raised speculation that Trump may “go nuclear” with a Chapter 11 filing to protect his prize real estate assets across Manhattan, experts said bankruptcy would create unwelcome complications as the 2024 election season comes to a head.“He’s been there and done that,” one insider close to Trump said, dismissing the prospect of a Chapter 11 filing.A third possibility, however, is to let the deadline pass, leaving it to New York Attorney General Letitia James to seize Trump’s bank accounts or buildings — including Trump Tower, from which he declared his 2016 presidential run, and which famously includes his personal penthouse. It’s an option Trump appears to have considered – partly because he believes the chances are good that he could recover the assets on appeal, even if he is forced to take his case to the US Supreme Court, according to friends.“Even if there is a taking, it doesn’t mean he can’t take it back later,” a source close to Trump told The Post.A decision to do nothing poses risks of its own — among them that the New York AG’s Office has the right to sell off any properties it confiscates in order to recover the cash penalties it is owed.“They are going after the money and that’s all he has a right to get back, not the buildings — unless the judgment is reversed before they are sold,” said Adam Leitman Bailey, a New York-based attorney who’s focused on the commercial real estate sector.Sources friendly with Trump say the ex-president believes he has a strong case. Among other considerations, if the decision is not overturned, “it will have a chilling effect on people who do business in New York because it could happen to anyone,” according to one insider. “There will be severe consequences — not an insurrection. People will stop doing business in New York. No one will take the risk, and lenders are now spooked. The real estate market is already a disaster, with office buildings worth a fraction of what they were once worth, and there are metastasizing effects when a large part of the city’s budget is from real estate.”One source close to Trump insisted that he could raise funds from wealthy “friends and supporters,” but so far has not chosen this path.
The ex-president reportedly has been struggling to raise the cash for the bond — either from banks or wealthy friends — with his lawyers claiming on Monday that it was a “practical impossibility.”
While some reports have raised speculation that Trump may “go nuclear” with a Chapter 11 filing to protect his prize real estate assets across Manhattan, experts said bankruptcy would create unwelcome complications as the 2024 election season comes to a head.
“He’s been there and done that,” one insider close to Trump said, dismissing the prospect of a Chapter 11 filing.
A third possibility, however, is to let the deadline pass, leaving it to New York Attorney General Letitia James to seize Trump’s bank accounts or buildings — including Trump Tower, from which he declared his 2016 presidential run, and which famously includes his personal penthouse.
It’s an option Trump appears to have considered – partly because he believes the chances are good that he could recover the assets on appeal, even if he is forced to take his case to the US Supreme Court, according to friends.
“Even if there is a taking, it doesn’t mean he can’t take it back later,” a source close to Trump told The Post.
A decision to do nothing poses risks of its own — among them that the New York AG’s Office has the right to sell off any properties it confiscates in order to recover the cash penalties it is owed.
“They are going after the money and that’s all he has a right to get back, not the buildings — unless the judgment is reversed before they are sold,” said Adam Leitman Bailey, a New York-based attorney who’s focused on the commercial real estate sector.
Sources friendly with Trump say the ex-president believes he has a strong case. Among other considerations, if the decision is not overturned, “it will have a chilling effect on people who do business in New York because it could happen to anyone,” according to one insider.
“There will be severe consequences — not an insurrection. People will stop doing business in New York. No one will take the risk, and lenders are now spooked. The real estate market is already a disaster, with office buildings worth a fraction of what they were once worth, and there are metastasizing effects when a large part of the city’s budget is from real estate.”
One source close to Trump insisted that he could raise funds from wealthy “friends and supporters,” but so far has not chosen this path.
― Tahuti Watches L&O:SVU Reruns Without His Ape (unperson), Wednesday, 20 March 2024 14:44 (one month ago) link
I think he should definitely test these theories
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Wednesday, 20 March 2024 14:46 (one month ago) link
Yeah, not surprised that he's thinking that he can just bank on the Supreme Court he handpicked to bail him out.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 20 March 2024 14:47 (one month ago) link
as with all major and continuing crimes that we all commit on a daily basis, there shouldn't be any penalty or repercussions, but instead a third national election to decide our fate, after the first two ended with 1) losing and becoming president and 2) losing and not becoming president
― z_tbd, Wednesday, 20 March 2024 14:48 (one month ago) link
“He’s not an ‘I’m passing the hat’ man — he doesn’t want pity or for anyone to feel sorry for him,” the source claimed.
He's a fuckin' grifter and so are you.
― Is he an evil man who makes chocolate or is the chocolate itself evil? (stevie), Wednesday, 20 March 2024 14:53 (one month ago) link
hot too hot too skimadee bing bong boom hot too
― CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 20 March 2024 14:56 (one month ago) link
lol at the NYAG responding that there is not reason Trump needs a $450 million bond when he can simply pursue multiple smaller denomination bonds.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 20 March 2024 15:00 (one month ago) link
lmao @ this "no one's gonna want to do business in New York if they can't commit massive fraud" line of reasoning here
― frogbs, Wednesday, 20 March 2024 15:01 (one month ago) link
That's sort of the implicit "everybody does it!) defense of the (iirc?) Shark Tank asshole who keeps making the rounds, for some reason.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 20 March 2024 15:05 (one month ago) link
haley got 150k votes in the florida primary yesterday. the primary was closed (GOP) only, and voting began after haley withdrew. probably nothing.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 20 March 2024 15:08 (one month ago) link
Classic John Barron in that NY Post article.
― Kim Kimberly, Wednesday, 20 March 2024 15:16 (one month ago) link
xpost From the WaPo:
Yet again, we saw more Republican primary voters voting against Trump than Democratic ones voting against Biden.About 1 in 5 voters voted against Trump in Arizona, Florida, Illinois and Ohio. And about one-quarter voted against him in Kansas.By contrast, Biden ceded closer to 1 out of 10 votes in most states holding primaries Tuesday.A few observations from the results and exit polls:There has been some question about just how much Nikki Haley’s showings owe to early voters who cast ballots before she dropped out. But about half of Ohio’s early voting took place after she dropped out, meaning a significant protest vote appears to remain.Exit polls there also showed 75 percent of Republican primary voters said they would “definitely” back Trump, with 9 percent “probably” backing him. The rest said they were leaning toward Biden (9 percent) or wouldn’t vote for either (7 percent).It’s possible that includes many voters who were predisposed to voting against the GOP nominee and showed up to register their dismay, as appears to have happened in Georgia. But Florida’s primary Tuesday suggests there might be something more significant at play.Nineteen percent of Florida GOP primary voters voted for a candidate not named Trump. (That included 4 percent for home-state Gov. Ron DeSantis, who dropped out of the race two months ago and whom Trump has attacked recently.)That was actually less of a protest vote than in Illinois and Ohio. But crucially, Florida has closed primaries. That means only registered Republicans could vote. In many of these other states, independent voters and even Democrats could come out to vote against Trump, but that wasn’t the case in Florida.Florida also began its mandatory early-voting period after Haley dropped out, meaning this appears to be more of a pure protest vote from actual Republicans.If the trend holds, it appears as if about 1 in 5 GOP primary voters are just going to keep voting against Trump.
About 1 in 5 voters voted against Trump in Arizona, Florida, Illinois and Ohio. And about one-quarter voted against him in Kansas.
By contrast, Biden ceded closer to 1 out of 10 votes in most states holding primaries Tuesday.
A few observations from the results and exit polls:
There has been some question about just how much Nikki Haley’s showings owe to early voters who cast ballots before she dropped out. But about half of Ohio’s early voting took place after she dropped out, meaning a significant protest vote appears to remain.
Exit polls there also showed 75 percent of Republican primary voters said they would “definitely” back Trump, with 9 percent “probably” backing him. The rest said they were leaning toward Biden (9 percent) or wouldn’t vote for either (7 percent).
It’s possible that includes many voters who were predisposed to voting against the GOP nominee and showed up to register their dismay, as appears to have happened in Georgia. But Florida’s primary Tuesday suggests there might be something more significant at play.
Nineteen percent of Florida GOP primary voters voted for a candidate not named Trump. (That included 4 percent for home-state Gov. Ron DeSantis, who dropped out of the race two months ago and whom Trump has attacked recently.)
That was actually less of a protest vote than in Illinois and Ohio. But crucially, Florida has closed primaries. That means only registered Republicans could vote. In many of these other states, independent voters and even Democrats could come out to vote against Trump, but that wasn’t the case in Florida.
Florida also began its mandatory early-voting period after Haley dropped out, meaning this appears to be more of a pure protest vote from actual Republicans.
If the trend holds, it appears as if about 1 in 5 GOP primary voters are just going to keep voting against Trump.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 20 March 2024 16:13 (one month ago) link
Also saw something about the Biden campaign focusing on Texas and Florida, not to win them, per se, but to force the (underfunded) RNC to spend there.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 20 March 2024 16:15 (one month ago) link
I was going to post something similar about The State With the Prettiest Name. I'm still not convinced that in November these anti-Trumpers won't vote for the fucker again b/c Biden the socialist is worse.
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 20 March 2024 16:20 (one month ago) link
what did you want to say about idaho, soto?
― schrodingers cat was always cool (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 20 March 2024 16:30 (one month ago) link
Oh wait, we must be talking about some other Donald Trump, one who doesn't bleat like an infant with colic over every tiny self-inflicted infraction he's ever suffered.
― Great-Tasting Burger Perceptions (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 20 March 2024 17:06 (one month ago) link
definitely feels like Trump could win back some of those voters by moderating his message instead of going with this "America sucks and everyone is laughing at us" thing, but he's now referring to the J6ers as "hostages" so I don't think that'll happen
― frogbs, Wednesday, 20 March 2024 17:12 (one month ago) link
passing the hat w/ Trump is when somebody passes him the hat to pay what he owes them and he then walks outside Mar-a-Lago and hands the hat to the groupies standing outside, and then after collecting money and the hat owners come to pick up the hat and the money inside, and Trump says it's actually his hat, his dad gave it to him, everybody knows it was his hat.
― CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 20 March 2024 17:14 (one month ago) link
"America sucks and everyone is laughing at us"
this is the go-to line that my well-educated, very successful, and in almost every other way very thoughtful, and kind trumpy relations validate their trumpiness. to the extent they bother justifying it to me. my attempts to reason with them, or altly, to shame them, get sad eyerolls.
― schrodingers cat was always cool (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 20 March 2024 17:26 (one month ago) link
"America sucks and everyone is laughing at us”.
― Slorg is not on the Slerf Team, you idiot, you moron (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 20 March 2024 17:29 (one month ago) link
he's been using that line for a long time, dating back to at least the late 80s. in 2016 i watched a bunch of old videos of him and in the 80s he was obsessed with japan being evil and always said that everyone there was "laughing at us"
― z_tbd, Wednesday, 20 March 2024 17:41 (one month ago) link
Most countries are rolling disasters, I don't think "they're laughing at us" has ever had much juice (even though both parties deploy it as they deem useful).
From that article about Trump's money squeeze, this line is hilarious: "People will stop doing business in New York." I could be wrong because it's not like I know any of them, but I really really do not think that many prominent business people see Trump's legal woes as indicative of anything except the consequences of being a bullshit artist, rapist and insurrectionist.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 20 March 2024 17:42 (one month ago) link
he was obsessed with japan being evil and always said that everyone there was "laughing at us"
he's been faking having hair for decades, i'm p sure people have always been laughing at him
― Is he an evil man who makes chocolate or is the chocolate itself evil? (stevie), Wednesday, 20 March 2024 17:43 (one month ago) link
People have been laughing at us for decades. Mostly because of Adam Sandler.
― President Keyes, Wednesday, 20 March 2024 17:47 (one month ago) link
Obviously America sucks, just look at NYC, where no one wants to live or visit because you run the risk of someone unhinged and crooked Very Unfairly taking your beautiful, perfect building from you.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 20 March 2024 17:57 (one month ago) link
Any voter who cites "other countries are laughing at us" as their reason to vote for Trump are just using it as a convenient blanket statement expressing their messy, incoherent emotions about the world around them, but the bulk of those emotions are fear, hatred, greed, and confusion because that's the whole basis of Trump's appeal.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 20 March 2024 18:26 (one month ago) link
you think you're gonna take America awaywith your money and your cocaine
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 20 March 2024 18:31 (one month ago) link
It wasn't that long ago that assembled world leaders did, in fact, laugh at him.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 20 March 2024 18:43 (one month ago) link
the it could happen to anyone part of the "one insider"'s quote from that Post article is killing me
― dell (del), Wednesday, 20 March 2024 19:22 (one month ago) link
they asked melania if she was going to campaign with her husband all she said was: "Stay tuned"". still waters run...still.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 20 March 2024 19:26 (one month ago) link
that's literally all she said. i think that's all she has said in public since Trump was actually President.
Melania & Kate up in heaven smoking blunts.
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 20 March 2024 19:30 (one month ago) link
Waiting for when he finally refers to his youngest tallest son as Barack
― nashwan, Wednesday, 20 March 2024 19:31 (one month ago) link
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 20 March 2024 19:36 (one month ago) link
The tone is getting a little Jack Lemmon-in-Glengarry Glen Ross, honestly.
Donald Trump sent out a frantic fundraising plea centered around the possibility that Trump Tower might be seized as part of the massive New York fraud judgment leveled against him.The former president's lawyers notified the court that none of 30 underwriting entities they approached would finance the half-billion bond he needs to pay as he appeals the fraud judgment, which means the New York attorney general's office could begin seizing his properties next week if he fails to pay by Monday's deadline."KEEP YOUR FILTHY HANDS OFF TRUMP TOWER!" reads a fundraising email sent to supporters. "Insane radical Democrat AG Letitia James wants to SEIZE my properties in New York. THIS INCLUDES THE ICONIC TRUMP TOWER!"
The former president's lawyers notified the court that none of 30 underwriting entities they approached would finance the half-billion bond he needs to pay as he appeals the fraud judgment, which means the New York attorney general's office could begin seizing his properties next week if he fails to pay by Monday's deadline.
"KEEP YOUR FILTHY HANDS OFF TRUMP TOWER!" reads a fundraising email sent to supporters. "Insane radical Democrat AG Letitia James wants to SEIZE my properties in New York. THIS INCLUDES THE ICONIC TRUMP TOWER!"
― Tahuti Watches L&O:SVU Reruns Without His Ape (unperson), Wednesday, 20 March 2024 20:00 (one month ago) link
COVFEFE is for closers
― President Keyes, Wednesday, 20 March 2024 20:05 (one month ago) link
not sure if "donate now to help me keep this giant building" is an effective fundraising strategy
― frogbs, Wednesday, 20 March 2024 20:06 (one month ago) link
ironic trump tower
― schrodingers cat was always cool (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 20 March 2024 20:07 (one month ago) link
Maybe Trump should try to sell some single smokes outside Trump tower to raise some funds or open up an Only Fans site.
― The Artist formerly known as Earlnash, Wednesday, 20 March 2024 20:09 (one month ago) link
How many two dollar donations will it take to save this iconic skyscraper?
― Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 20 March 2024 20:09 (one month ago) link
xpost - I think it's more the continued grift to his supporters of, "if they can do this to me, they can do it to you too! don't let them seize my property or they'll come for you next". always gotta milk that righteous indignation
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 20 March 2024 20:09 (one month ago) link
Next week the Donald will have to move into Trump Trailer if things don’t work out.
― The Artist formerly known as Earlnash, Wednesday, 20 March 2024 20:11 (one month ago) link
Hoping George Soros buys the iconic tower
― Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 20 March 2024 20:12 (one month ago) link
I still remember the first time I visited New York, circa 1989, and was struck by just how ugly Trump Tower is. It looks like a giant turd on Fifth Avenue.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 20 March 2024 20:13 (one month ago) link
Which is what made it all the more surprising when the Trump tower in Chicago didn't look like dogshit. That is it didn't before he had to piss his name all over the side in giant letters.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 20 March 2024 20:14 (one month ago) link
and immediately demolishes it
― walking on the beach in a force ten gale (Matt #2), Wednesday, 20 March 2024 20:18 (one month ago) link
it's a very sad situation
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 20 March 2024 20:27 (one month ago) link
Letitia James is basically Al Queda--trying to take down this iconic New York tower
― President Keyes, Wednesday, 20 March 2024 20:40 (one month ago) link
Ironically, the laughter was deafening when America first made Trump president. There won't be any laughter if it happens again though.
― Tom D (the first British Asian ILXor) (Tom D.), Wednesday, 20 March 2024 20:40 (one month ago) link
https://media.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExeWsyc3A4NGtrczUxc3c4dXNremtsMXB3dGZrc3plejIxdWJraHMwZSZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/P9cprMIsZPt3q/giphy.gif
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 20 March 2024 20:43 (one month ago) link
― The Artist formerly known as Earlnash, Wednesday, March 20, 2024 3:11 PM (thirty minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
SNORT
― Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 20 March 2024 20:44 (one month ago) link
I hope George Soros buys it and renames it Barack Obama Tower.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 20 March 2024 20:56 (one month ago) link
Some interesting points, pulled from Bluesky discussion:
• The appeal process is going to take years, so not being able to post the bond means he's completely fucked even if he eventually wins. And this isn't the kind of thing a president can pardon himself out of.
• The deadline for team Trump to file an appeal is 8/26–they can get two extensions of 30 days and maybe a bit more, but if the AG is foreclosing and forcing sales, they may want to move this along. Argument will happen before the end of the year and a decision will issue about two months later.
• The start of asset seizure will likely cause a cascading devaluation of his other assets, leaving him with a collapsing house of cards.
• It will take a while to seize the real property. Any existing lien holders will have a chance to get in there first, stake a claim and slow the whole process down. But any known bank accounts can probably be cleaned out within the week if the paperwork is in order.
― Tahuti Watches L&O:SVU Reruns Without His Ape (unperson), Wednesday, 20 March 2024 21:10 (one month ago) link
What was the name of that song?
“You Played Yourself”?
― Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 20 March 2024 21:11 (one month ago) link
4 years ago the country couldn't buy toilet paper.
Soon he won't be able to
― CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 20 March 2024 21:30 (one month ago) link
Or maybe he'll be able to trade a few packs of cigarettes for a roll.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 20 March 2024 21:31 (one month ago) link
Which TP is worth more?Toilet paper or Trump Properties
― President Keyes, Wednesday, 20 March 2024 22:44 (one month ago) link
President Biden, speaking at a Texas fundraiser: "Just the other day, this defeated looking man came up to me and said: 'Mr. President I need your help. I'm in crushing debt. I'm completely wiped out.' I had to say, 'Donald, I can't help you'."— Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) March 21, 2024
― mookieproof, Thursday, 21 March 2024 17:11 (four weeks ago) link
Cold.
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 21 March 2024 17:12 (four weeks ago) link
Hahahaha
― Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 21 March 2024 17:14 (four weeks ago) link
yo is it true donald god sonned by a biden after a campaign beef??????
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 21 March 2024 17:15 (four weeks ago) link
I love how he (or his speechwriter) flipped the “men come up to me with tears in their eyes, saying sir, sir” goof of recent times into this banger
― Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 21 March 2024 17:15 (four weeks ago) link
Keep 'em comin', Joe, bring on the mockery.
― Tom D (the first British Asian ILXor) (Tom D.), Thursday, 21 March 2024 17:16 (four weeks ago) link
Meantime, Engoron has provided more details on what the monitor overseeing the business will be doing and what the obligations from Trump's side are. Fairly dry but I appreciate the stringency.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 21 March 2024 17:33 (four weeks ago) link
he told that joke at the gridiron dinner too.
― scott seward, Thursday, 21 March 2024 17:34 (four weeks ago) link
If my sense of how the Trump Organization has operated in the past is even minimally correct, that Engoron court order will eliminate or alter nearly every one of their common "business practices". Donald and his shady deals are going to be put into a strait jacket.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 21 March 2024 17:46 (four weeks ago) link
It's notable that the order also indicates any surety bond planning has to go through her too -- IOW, the thing Trump's still trying to work out before Monday.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 21 March 2024 17:47 (four weeks ago) link
You love to see it. For those ilxors who continually bewail that Trump has never yet suffered any consequences, this court order should be required reading. Not every legal action against him will succeed as we would like, but the two Carroll defamation judgments and this NY fraud case are bearing delicious fruit.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 21 March 2024 17:53 (four weeks ago) link
agree.
still haunted by that time obama got him at the press corp dinner. but times are different. nobody will be surprised by trump these days. if he manages a new but as devastating reply, i should say he's the devil.
― schrodingers cat was always cool (Hunt3r), Thursday, 21 March 2024 18:09 (four weeks ago) link
It begins
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-03-21/ny-poised-to-seize-trump-westchester-assets-if-fraud-fine-unpaid
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 21 March 2024 18:24 (four weeks ago) link
get him
― lag∞n, Thursday, 21 March 2024 18:45 (four weeks ago) link
The twice-impeached Trump – currently the presumptive Republican presidential nominee – continued: “Democrats think that this will intimidate me. They think that if they take my cash to stifle my campaign, that I’ll GIVE UP!
“But worst of all? They think that YOU will abandon me, and that you will GIVE UP on our country. Here’s one thing they don’t know: WE WILL NEVER SURRENDER!”
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 21 March 2024 18:48 (four weeks ago) link
just a little more time
― CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Thursday, 21 March 2024 18:49 (four weeks ago) link
no matter how many golf courses they seize from us
― lag∞n, Thursday, 21 March 2024 18:50 (four weeks ago) link
Just a little more time, to be sure, how I feeeeeeel
― Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 21 March 2024 18:50 (four weeks ago) link
I will admit that economics tends to fly over my head somewhat, but can anyone explain what one word of this gibberish actually means?
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/mar/21/trump-truth-social
Digital World is a meme stock, the term for an equity that is boosted by amateur investors on online forums via internet memes (an image, video or piece of text that is copied and passed around, often re-emerging with slight alterations).The most famous example of meme stock-boosting is GameStop, a US video game retailer that, although it appeared to be trending downwards in terms of its business prospects, suddenly attained a valuation of more than $22bn at the peak of a buying frenzy in 2021 – but is now worth just over $4bn.In one meme example on the Digital World page on Reddit, a photograph of Trump pointing is emblazoned with the slogan “He’s Right! Get More DWAC [Digital World Acquisition Corp]!” Another shows a bald eagle carrying the US flag in its talons with the letters DWAC above it.Julian Klymochko, the chief executive of Accelerate Financial Technologies, which has a Spac-focused fund, says Digital World’s soaring valuation has become detached from the fundamental value of Trump Media and its sales of less than $5m.“The stock’s market capitalisation is completely unhinged from its underlying fundamental business value. The stock price is solely based on being a meme stock,” he says.
The most famous example of meme stock-boosting is GameStop, a US video game retailer that, although it appeared to be trending downwards in terms of its business prospects, suddenly attained a valuation of more than $22bn at the peak of a buying frenzy in 2021 – but is now worth just over $4bn.
In one meme example on the Digital World page on Reddit, a photograph of Trump pointing is emblazoned with the slogan “He’s Right! Get More DWAC [Digital World Acquisition Corp]!” Another shows a bald eagle carrying the US flag in its talons with the letters DWAC above it.
Julian Klymochko, the chief executive of Accelerate Financial Technologies, which has a Spac-focused fund, says Digital World’s soaring valuation has become detached from the fundamental value of Trump Media and its sales of less than $5m.
“The stock’s market capitalisation is completely unhinged from its underlying fundamental business value. The stock price is solely based on being a meme stock,” he says.
― walking on the beach in a force ten gale (Matt #2), Thursday, 21 March 2024 18:56 (four weeks ago) link
can anyone explain what one word of this gibberish actually means?
Morons People are buying stock in DWAC in order to show tribal loyalty and jockey for status within the in-group of terminal suckers hardcore Trump fans.
― Tahuti Watches L&O:SVU Reruns Without His Ape (unperson), Thursday, 21 March 2024 19:00 (four weeks ago) link
it just means trump fans are driving the stock price of a company hes associated with up because they like him not because the company is actually worth what theyre paying
which somewhat resembles the "meme stock" phenomenon of people banding together online to drive the stock price of a company up, tho in that case theyre doing it to make money not cause theyre fans, mostly i think
― lag∞n, Thursday, 21 March 2024 19:05 (four weeks ago) link
TrumpFans might be a good, wholesome venture for bored investors
― Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 21 March 2024 19:33 (four weeks ago) link
$75 - one Trump Steak$150 - 1 Trumpcoin$500 - Trump football jersey (for Team America)$5,000 - autographed pic of Trump wearing football jersey$50,000 - autographed pic of Trump wearing only the football jersey
― CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Thursday, 21 March 2024 19:39 (four weeks ago) link
I think the Trump fans (and other small time investors who love meme stocks) who are buying into the Digital World stock based on the buzz around it being the vehicle for an IPO of Truth Social definitely believe they will make money from it. I'd put my money on the more experienced meme stock traders to make money on this. Ordinary Trump devotees who get lured in are just being set up as the 'bigger fools' in this deal.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 21 March 2024 19:57 (four weeks ago) link
The stock’s market capitalisation is completely unhinged from its underlying fundamental business value.
feel like you could say this about a great many things
― mookieproof, Thursday, 21 March 2024 20:34 (four weeks ago) link
lol the lovitz reference
https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_fullsize/plain/did:plc:3i7veujgdxt5flgdzimzqbxi/bafkreifx7pdrsplbjzsmm745tlqgfn3nhrcgbpbkrtx7kii7ovoarcsoky@jpeg
― lag∞n, Thursday, 21 March 2024 20:46 (four weeks ago) link
I love the inference that businesses are fleeing because of his trial. Also, "a true Trump Hater".
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 21 March 2024 20:48 (four weeks ago) link
is "ELECTION INTERFERENCE" an instruction to his supporters?
― This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 21 March 2024 20:50 (four weeks ago) link
and his attorneys failed to file timely paperwork for a jury trial
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 21 March 2024 20:52 (four weeks ago) link
the Jon Lovitz reference is very weird but I think a good insight to how his brain works
― frogbs, Thursday, 21 March 2024 20:56 (four weeks ago) link
On some level in Trump's mind it is always 1986.
― Tahuti Watches L&O:SVU Reruns Without His Ape (unperson), Thursday, 21 March 2024 20:58 (four weeks ago) link
I like to see if there is a possible hidden message in what he chooses to put in all caps:
THIN AIR, CRAZY, VERY EXPENSIVE FLEEING ELECTION INTERFERENCE
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 21 March 2024 21:00 (four weeks ago) link
xp before everyone hated him
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 21 March 2024 21:01 (four weeks ago) link
This Axios story is worth bookmarking as a reference/explainer:
What may happen if Trump can't secure $464M bond in New York fraud caseFormer President Trump has until Monday to post a $464 million bond to appeal New York's fraud case against him or else New York Attorney General Letitia James may begin to collect the court-ordered damages in the case.Why it matters: Trump's lawyers said this week securing a bond that size has been "impossible" after they approached more than two dozen companies and none were willing to cover the amount.Trump has denied any wrongdoing in the case.The latest: James took a first step toward seizing Trump's properties by filing judgements on March 6 in Westchester County, according to the county clerk's online database.It suggests James may seek to seize and sell the Trump National Golf Club Westchester or his Seven Springs private estate north of Manhattan to help fulfill the judgement.What does this indicate about Trump's finances?Trump's lawyers said no company would accept his real estate as collateral and would only accept cash or cash equivalents.Trump's inability to secure a bond under those terms at the very least suggests he lacks access to a large amount of liquid assets.This may in part be because he posted a nearly $92 million bond earlier this month to appeal the $83.3 million in damages he was ordered to pay writer E. Jean Carroll for defamation by denying her sexual assault allegations.What is a bond?In this case, it's a guarantee that the money for the damages will be available in case Trump's appeals ultimately fail.Typically, a defendant hoping to appeal legal damages will approach companies to post the bond on its behalf in exchange for a fee that's a percentage of the total bond amount.The bond is usually covered by cash or other liquid assets presented by the defendant as collateral. Real estate is rarely accepted as collateral because of the lengthy appraisal process and its value being influenced by market fluctuations.The bond allows defendants to exhaust their legal options while protecting the court from frivolous appeals. It also shields plaintiffs from dishonest tactics to delay payment and from the defendant's financial situation.What's next: If the appeals fail, the defendant will be required to pay the judgment. If they can't, the plaintiff may collect the damages from the bond company and the defendant would be required to reimburse the company.If a defendant wins the appeal and the damages are overturned or reduced, the company still retains the fee.Why is Trump's appeal amount so high?Trump's bond is nearly half a billion dollars because he was ordered to pay nearly that amount in damages and interest after being found liable for financial fraud for falsifying business records.New York law requires defendants in civil cases to post a bond worth at least 110% of the judgment amount to delay paying the penalty as they appeal.Since Trump is on the hook for $454 million in the civil fraud lawsuit, his appeal bond is $464 million.What they're saying: Trump's lawyers said securing that is a "practical impossibility" because only a very few companies would accept a bond of that amount.The only ones that would accept the bond require collateral worth approximately $557 million in the form of cash or cash equivalents and would charge nearly $20 million in fees, his lawyers said.What happens if Trump can't pay?James could have started collecting on the damages after the judgment was imposed in January, but she gave Trump and his co-defendants a 30-day grace period to arrange a bond or prepare to pay the judgment.If the grace period ends on March 25 without a bond posting, James will be entitled to collect.She could begin seizing and selling Trump's properties to fulfill the judgment. James has said she would do so if he can't pay, though actually doing so could be politically contentious.It would also be legally complex given the tangled structure and financing used by his businesses.James could also give Trump more time to pay the damages or arrange a lower amount through a counterproposal.Besides the bond, what can Trump do?Trump has asked an appeals court to pause collecting on the judgment while he appeals or to accept a much lower bond of $100 million. However, it's not certain the appeals court will rule before the March 25 deadline.If it rules against Trump, he could appeal to the state's highest court, but there's no guarantee he would be able to prevent James from collecting if he did so.Trump could come up with the liquidity needed for the bond collateral by selling one of his properties, though such a fast sell would likely come with major financial losses.He could also have the businesses implicated in the case declare bankruptcy, which would prevent James from collecting but would significantly damage his reputation and could ignite more litigation over corporate debts.Context: Considering some of Trump's companies had a string of bankruptcies in the 1990s and early 2000s that nearly financially ruined him, it's unlikely his companies will file for bankruptcy again.While Trump campaign fundraising committees have started using the bond deadline and the potential property seizures in donation requests, it won't help with the bond or judgement.One appeal to supporters said, "Keep your filthy hands off of Trump Tower," in response to James' threat to seize Trump's properties to pay the judgment.The Federal Elections Commission allows certain campaign funds to be used to pay for legal expenses, but using funds to pay a bond or a judgement would likely violate campaign finance laws.
Former President Trump has until Monday to post a $464 million bond to appeal New York's fraud case against him or else New York Attorney General Letitia James may begin to collect the court-ordered damages in the case.
Why it matters: Trump's lawyers said this week securing a bond that size has been "impossible" after they approached more than two dozen companies and none were willing to cover the amount.
Trump has denied any wrongdoing in the case.
The latest: James took a first step toward seizing Trump's properties by filing judgements on March 6 in Westchester County, according to the county clerk's online database.
It suggests James may seek to seize and sell the Trump National Golf Club Westchester or his Seven Springs private estate north of Manhattan to help fulfill the judgement.
What does this indicate about Trump's finances?Trump's lawyers said no company would accept his real estate as collateral and would only accept cash or cash equivalents.
Trump's inability to secure a bond under those terms at the very least suggests he lacks access to a large amount of liquid assets.
This may in part be because he posted a nearly $92 million bond earlier this month to appeal the $83.3 million in damages he was ordered to pay writer E. Jean Carroll for defamation by denying her sexual assault allegations.
What is a bond?In this case, it's a guarantee that the money for the damages will be available in case Trump's appeals ultimately fail.
Typically, a defendant hoping to appeal legal damages will approach companies to post the bond on its behalf in exchange for a fee that's a percentage of the total bond amount.
The bond is usually covered by cash or other liquid assets presented by the defendant as collateral. Real estate is rarely accepted as collateral because of the lengthy appraisal process and its value being influenced by market fluctuations.
The bond allows defendants to exhaust their legal options while protecting the court from frivolous appeals. It also shields plaintiffs from dishonest tactics to delay payment and from the defendant's financial situation.
What's next: If the appeals fail, the defendant will be required to pay the judgment. If they can't, the plaintiff may collect the damages from the bond company and the defendant would be required to reimburse the company.
If a defendant wins the appeal and the damages are overturned or reduced, the company still retains the fee.
Why is Trump's appeal amount so high?Trump's bond is nearly half a billion dollars because he was ordered to pay nearly that amount in damages and interest after being found liable for financial fraud for falsifying business records.
New York law requires defendants in civil cases to post a bond worth at least 110% of the judgment amount to delay paying the penalty as they appeal.
Since Trump is on the hook for $454 million in the civil fraud lawsuit, his appeal bond is $464 million.
What they're saying: Trump's lawyers said securing that is a "practical impossibility" because only a very few companies would accept a bond of that amount.
The only ones that would accept the bond require collateral worth approximately $557 million in the form of cash or cash equivalents and would charge nearly $20 million in fees, his lawyers said.
What happens if Trump can't pay?James could have started collecting on the damages after the judgment was imposed in January, but she gave Trump and his co-defendants a 30-day grace period to arrange a bond or prepare to pay the judgment.
If the grace period ends on March 25 without a bond posting, James will be entitled to collect.
She could begin seizing and selling Trump's properties to fulfill the judgment. James has said she would do so if he can't pay, though actually doing so could be politically contentious.
It would also be legally complex given the tangled structure and financing used by his businesses.
James could also give Trump more time to pay the damages or arrange a lower amount through a counterproposal.
Besides the bond, what can Trump do?Trump has asked an appeals court to pause collecting on the judgment while he appeals or to accept a much lower bond of $100 million. However, it's not certain the appeals court will rule before the March 25 deadline.
If it rules against Trump, he could appeal to the state's highest court, but there's no guarantee he would be able to prevent James from collecting if he did so.
Trump could come up with the liquidity needed for the bond collateral by selling one of his properties, though such a fast sell would likely come with major financial losses.
He could also have the businesses implicated in the case declare bankruptcy, which would prevent James from collecting but would significantly damage his reputation and could ignite more litigation over corporate debts.
Context: Considering some of Trump's companies had a string of bankruptcies in the 1990s and early 2000s that nearly financially ruined him, it's unlikely his companies will file for bankruptcy again.
While Trump campaign fundraising committees have started using the bond deadline and the potential property seizures in donation requests, it won't help with the bond or judgement.
One appeal to supporters said, "Keep your filthy hands off of Trump Tower," in response to James' threat to seize Trump's properties to pay the judgment.
The Federal Elections Commission allows certain campaign funds to be used to pay for legal expenses, but using funds to pay a bond or a judgement would likely violate campaign finance laws.
― Tahuti Watches L&O:SVU Reruns Without His Ape (unperson), Thursday, 21 March 2024 21:07 (four weeks ago) link
"Even though I did nothing wrong, the crooked Hades, a very unpopular god, has refused to allow my soul free passage. He is demanding that I stay in his house, which he keeps very dark and cold, and is always full of mist. (What is he trying to hide??) Your drachmae will help me expose this creep, who is one of the biggest Trump haters around, and blow the lid off his so-called Underworld!" - Memorial inscription, Trump Sarcophagus
― The king of the demo (bernard snowy), Thursday, 21 March 2024 21:11 (four weeks ago) link
so many people are going to think contempt of court isn't a thing anymore just because this guy can do it without getting punished...
― StanM, Thursday, 21 March 2024 21:33 (four weeks ago) link
This Axios story🕸 is worth bookmarking as a reference/explainer:
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 22 March 2024 01:03 (four weeks ago) link
― lag∞n, Friday, 22 March 2024 01:04 (four weeks ago) link
Might as well formalize it! https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/21/us/politics/trump-legal-bills-rnc.html?smid=url-share
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 22 March 2024 03:09 (four weeks ago) link
this guy...
― scott seward, Friday, 22 March 2024 03:19 (four weeks ago) link
if he wasn't such a racist shithead i might even be rooting for him! bankrupt the republican party and then ride off into the night. ordinarily a plan i could get behind.
― scott seward, Friday, 22 March 2024 03:20 (four weeks ago) link
so are all the corporate donors locked in already orrrr
― frogbs, Friday, 22 March 2024 03:23 (four weeks ago) link
Going back a bit
ny-poised-to-seize-trump-westchester-assets
Might one say they that they will... lock them up?
And as for
for an IPO of Truth
It's too late to change eventsIt's time to face the consequenceFor delivering the proofFor an IPO of Truth
― alpaca lips now (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 22 March 2024 03:32 (four weeks ago) link
Haha hardly. There's been reports of general reticence among that bunch precisely because of moves like this.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 22 March 2024 03:41 (four weeks ago) link
"On SNL when it was good" Okay Boomer
I mean, it's not wrong, per se... lots of people can like previous incarnations of SNL more than they like more recent ones. But "back when SNL was actually FUNNY" has become such a basic, trite cliche that it's lost all meaning. It's tiresome.
― alpaca lips now (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 22 March 2024 03:44 (four weeks ago) link
In this case I read it entirely as “SNL before they mocked me.”
― Requiem for a Dream: The Musical! (Dan Peterson), Friday, 22 March 2024 03:46 (four weeks ago) link
its also a weird thing to bring up in a social media post accusing a federal judge of being corrupt especially when you are a presidential candidate
― frogbs, Friday, 22 March 2024 03:48 (four weeks ago) link
In the lead up to the 2016 election, a colleague was convinced that Trump was going to win, and was all doom and gloom about it. “Tut-tut!” said I knowingly, “he won’t possibly win- and not only that, but he will destroy the Republican Party as he goes down in flames, to the point that it will never recover!” Something like that anyway.
I certainly had egg on my face when he won- but as of now, I like to think that I stand a reasonable chance of having been half right before all is said and done!
― epistantophus, Friday, 22 March 2024 03:48 (four weeks ago) link
It’s weird, but one of the ridiculous things about Trump is his obsession with the media and how he is covered in it. He can’t separate the topics in his mind even if he tries. xp
― Requiem for a Dream: The Musical! (Dan Peterson), Friday, 22 March 2024 03:59 (four weeks ago) link
It’s what you get when you elect a pathological narcissist as president.
― Requiem for a Dream: The Musical! (Dan Peterson), Friday, 22 March 2024 04:02 (four weeks ago) link
He should offer up top secret documents as collateral, let the state of NY grapple with some cool nuke plans.
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Friday, 22 March 2024 04:09 (four weeks ago) link
So this dumbass just boasted that he *does* have $500 million in cash?
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 22 March 2024 13:27 (four weeks ago) link
Keep talking, Donnie
― Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 22 March 2024 13:29 (four weeks ago) link
SNL was funny back when Jon Lovitz, Dennis Miller, Victoria Jackson, Rob Schneider and Jim Bruer were on it
― President Keyes, Friday, 22 March 2024 13:29 (four weeks ago) link
Weird aside about that Jon Lovitz sketch. I had a family friend at the time who used to go around saying "yeah, that's the ticket." He was in his teens and I was about 6 years old, so I didn't have the frame of reference for SNL. But I looked up to this kid and started saying it on my own. Trump's screed led me to look up the Lovitz bit on YouTube, and as soon as he started talking, I realized that this was the origin of that phrase.
― peace, man, Friday, 22 March 2024 13:45 (four weeks ago) link
....I thought it was a three stooges thing...
― m0stly clean (Slowsquatch), Friday, 22 March 2024 13:46 (four weeks ago) link
Good point. Lovitz didn't create the phrase, but I'm pretty sure that's where my friend got it. I remember it coming into my lexicon in 1985 or 86.
― peace, man, Friday, 22 March 2024 13:50 (four weeks ago) link
...I think a similar thing happened with "you dirty rat"... originally a 30s gangster line (cagney? robinson?), but had a later revival in the 80s, maybe also from snl?
― m0stly clean (Slowsquatch), Friday, 22 March 2024 14:09 (four weeks ago) link
I think maybe “you dirty rat” was reintroduced into the popular lexicon by the fast-talking Michael Keaton character in “Johnny Dangerously”?
― henry s, Friday, 22 March 2024 15:18 (four weeks ago) link
and bugs bunny probably.
― scott seward, Friday, 22 March 2024 15:27 (four weeks ago) link
i feel like rich little kept things alive for decades. definitely bogey.
― scott seward, Friday, 22 March 2024 15:28 (four weeks ago) link
Also "You dirty rat" was famously not actually said on screen.
― President Keyes, Friday, 22 March 2024 15:29 (four weeks ago) link
you dirty rat = cagney impersonators
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVFRI0h5NFw
― just like Christopher Wray said (brownie), Friday, 22 March 2024 15:38 (four weeks ago) link
The line from Blonde Crazy (1931) is "Oh, that dirty, double-crossin' rat! I'd like to get my hooks on him. I'd tear him to pieces!" Hack impressions reduced it to "You dirty rat!"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXxZCrM04uI
― Infanta Terrible (j.lu), Friday, 22 March 2024 16:43 (four weeks ago) link
Also, from Taxi! (1932): "Come out and take it, ya dirty, yellow-bellied rat, or I'll give it to ya through the door!"
― Kim Kimberly, Friday, 22 March 2024 16:54 (four weeks ago) link
love how this thread is devolving
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 22 March 2024 17:25 (four weeks ago) link
trump: a dirty rat
― schrodingers cat was always cool (Hunt3r), Friday, 22 March 2024 17:44 (four weeks ago) link
buncha headlines today about how Trump just made billions from some merger, I'm sure that's legit
― frogbs, Friday, 22 March 2024 17:45 (four weeks ago) link
https://images-cdn.bridgemanimages.com/api/1.0/image/600wm.REU.48410580.7055475/8498305.jpg
― President Keyes, Friday, 22 March 2024 17:46 (four weeks ago) link
Theoretically he has, but not exactly. Two good threads by Mitchell Epner with the details:
https://bsky.app/profile/mitchellepner.bsky.social/post/3koc6yudg7c2l
https://bsky.app/profile/mitchellepner.bsky.social/post/3kocdvboqms23
TL; DR: lots of restrictions and even his own hand-picked board would basically be risking their own money in general if they gave him everything, and even then the value itself is not exactly clear.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 22 March 2024 18:03 (four weeks ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNwPWQcnypo
― Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 22 March 2024 18:06 (four weeks ago) link
That said, Epner notes the board can potentially do something but there are still weird pitfalls (more in his replies, which may not be open to all — a key point, believe it or not, is that Don Jr can’t be involved). Backtrack from here:https://bsky.app/profile/mitchellepner.bsky.social/post/3kocknljjkv2b
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 22 March 2024 18:47 (four weeks ago) link
So DWAC (the company Trump is sweatily hoping to merge Truth Social with) lost 13% of its already imaginary share price today. As someone said on Bluesky, "remind me, is it a good idea to announce that a pump and dump is a pump and dump before the dump phase?"
― Tahuti Watches L&O:SVU Reruns Without His Ape (unperson), Friday, 22 March 2024 22:14 (four weeks ago) link
"You've got to prime the pump before the dump...Prime The Pump...what a phrase...I invented it... nobody said it before me...Prime The Pump before the dump...such massive dumping...many people are saying they've never seen a Pump and Dump so large..."
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 22 March 2024 22:21 (four weeks ago) link
Proverbs 16:18 KJV - Pump goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a dump.
― CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Friday, 22 March 2024 22:23 (four weeks ago) link
“TRUMP PUMP DUMP! TRUMP PUMP DUMP!” to reifenstahl-ish footage of gop convention
― schrodingers cat was always cool (Hunt3r), Friday, 22 March 2024 22:28 (four weeks ago) link
The thread is taking a turn that reminds me of dialogue in a George Saunders story, but I’m not looking it up
― Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 22 March 2024 22:35 (four weeks ago) link
I don’t know his work yet, but being from Texas, going to Mines, then doing straight documentation, and then being a creative writer is a story itself
― schrodingers cat was always cool (Hunt3r), Friday, 22 March 2024 22:51 (four weeks ago) link
When you've got even Charles Gasparino going 'uh' you know it's all bad over there in Trump finance world. A lot of usual whining but this bit is interesting:
As I first reported, Trump advisers are weighing whether to turn over all the properties to James and let her figure out the complexities of ownership, including his limited partners, until she gets to Trump’s share. By the time that happens, the case may have been successfully overturned on appeal.
boldstrategycotton.gif etc.
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 24 March 2024 22:17 (three weeks ago) link
― calstars, Sunday, 24 March 2024 22:20 (three weeks ago) link
I mean, it could be, right?
― Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Sunday, 24 March 2024 22:29 (three weeks ago) link
He did claim to invent the phrase "prime the pump." Gah, kill me now, this timeline....
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 24 March 2024 22:58 (three weeks ago) link
I made up the quote using parts taken from real quotes and known tropes.
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 24 March 2024 23:08 (three weeks ago) link
Credit where due: this is funny, and imagining the all-night stream of Truth Social posts it will inspire is even funnier.
Congratulations, Donald. Quite the accomplishment. pic.twitter.com/nyDivqPwoI— Joe Biden (@JoeBiden) March 25, 2024
― Tahuti Watches L&O:SVU Reruns Without His Ape (unperson), Monday, 25 March 2024 02:59 (three weeks ago) link
the fix is in
Breaking: New York appeals court judge grants stay of judgment in Trump's fraud case, gives him 10 days to post reduced bond of $175 million. pic.twitter.com/yyq3gPO5DW— Graham Kates (@GrahamKates) March 25, 2024
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 25 March 2024 15:32 (three weeks ago) link
― I painted my teeth (sleeve), Monday, 25 March 2024 15:33 (three weeks ago) link
Eh, not completely. He wanted to only pay $100 million for the bond, and $175 million has gotta hurt on top of the near $100 million he kicked down already for Carroll. Being down $300 million when his actual estimated worth is around $350 million is, how you say, amusing.
Per NYT reporting out of the NY court case hearing, Trump's lead lawyer just got rubbished big time. Probably not a good idea when the judge is saying things like this!
Merchan is now asking Trump’s lawyer Todd Blanche about his background as an assistant United States attorney, and telling him that he should have known that he could immediately seek the documents he wanted from federal prosecutors. “For whatever reason, you waited until two months before trial,” the judge says.--Justice Merchan is taking it a step further: suggesting that the Trump team was aware it wanted documents and didn’t ask for them for a long time.
Justice Merchan is taking it a step further: suggesting that the Trump team was aware it wanted documents and didn’t ask for them for a long time.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 25 March 2024 15:36 (three weeks ago) link
$175m will not hurt. he can put up someone else's money at that amount. this eliminates the PR problem of losing real estate, but also eliminates the actual problem in an election year of losing all his cash.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 25 March 2024 15:39 (three weeks ago) link
he can put up someone else's money at that amount.
Well, someone actually has to give it to him first. The Carroll bond was secured by collateral in some big Schwab account, per that paperwork.
Also in reading the order, the independent monitor plus the new director of compliance roles stay in place, which delights me because they clearly hate that.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 25 March 2024 15:41 (three weeks ago) link
little thread on how worthless Truth Social actually is
1. Can we talk for a minute about how poorly Truth Social is performing?In its November 2021 pitch to investors, Truth Social estimated it would have 41 million users in 2023 and 56 million in 2024It actually had 8.9 million "sign-ups" through 2/14/24 pic.twitter.com/itRPHP5HOs— Judd Legum (@JuddLegum) March 25, 2024
― frogbs, Monday, 25 March 2024 16:02 (three weeks ago) link
Anyway, Merchan rules from the bench, dismisses all the defense attempts, and the hush-money trial is now set for April 15th. It's pretty clear in his words to Trump's lawyer Todd Blanche earlier that any further attempt on their part to delay things will get shot down.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 25 March 2024 16:17 (three weeks ago) link
(The 15th is three weeks from today, etc. etc.)
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 25 March 2024 16:18 (three weeks ago) link
donnie rambling outside court at the moment.
― scott seward, Monday, 25 March 2024 16:21 (three weeks ago) link
He'll be doing a lot of that over the next couple of months!
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 25 March 2024 16:24 (three weeks ago) link
My freedom I hold dearHow years ago in days of oldWhen greatness filled the air'T was in the darkest depths of 'MericaI won a election so fairBut Biden, and the evil onesCrept up and slipped away with it
― President Keyes, Monday, 25 March 2024 16:34 (three weeks ago) link
Ramble, Donnie, ramble
― Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 25 March 2024 16:40 (three weeks ago) link
speaking of truth social, i keep reading that trump is about to make 3.5 billion off it? i'm a financial dummy (on purpose - i believe the love of money actually is the root of all evil), but even if truth social is worthless and he only gets 1.5 billion of it (or whatever), why can't he use that money to pay off the hundreds of millions he owes? is it because it's due this month? i feel like ol donny would be able to convince someone who has too much money to cover him for now and then pay them back with the truth social windfall, but that must be wrong because no one's talking about it and it seems obvious
― z_tbd, Monday, 25 March 2024 17:06 (three weeks ago) link
(jeez, "good ol donny" - this guy's existence led to several hundreds of thousands of people dying that didn't have to die, and yet that's what i call him. god what a horrible fucker he is)
― z_tbd, Monday, 25 March 2024 17:08 (three weeks ago) link
I think because he won’t be able to cash that stock in for months and it likely won’t be worth as much as people are speculating right now.
― President Keyes, Monday, 25 March 2024 17:09 (three weeks ago) link
oh didn't he rambleoh didn't he raaaamblehe rambled 'till the butchers cut him down
(we hope)
― Slorg is not on the Slerf Team, you idiot, you moron (Boring, Maryland), Monday, 25 March 2024 17:21 (three weeks ago) link
ramble tamble dissemble
― I saw three hippies saving a whale (Matt #2), Monday, 25 March 2024 17:24 (three weeks ago) link
z_tbd, his stock becomes worth $3.5bn only as part of a deal that forbids him from selling the stock for 6 months.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 25 March 2024 18:23 (three weeks ago) link
I don't understand how Truth Social is worth anything, it loses money hand over fist, has very few actual users, and will be completely dead whenever Trump kicks the bucket
― frogbs, Monday, 25 March 2024 18:25 (three weeks ago) link
it's a convenient vehicle to transfer bribes to someone with a 50% chance of being the next president
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 25 March 2024 18:26 (three weeks ago) link
The value of Truth Social is based entirely on a fairy tale and the name of that fairy tale is... The Emperor's New Clothes.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Monday, 25 March 2024 18:33 (three weeks ago) link
THE TRAIN IS COMING.
https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2024/03/23/fulton-county-da-fani-willis-exclusive-intv-nr-vpx.cnn
― scott seward, Monday, 25 March 2024 18:37 (three weeks ago) link
best possible quote.
it's a convenient vehicle to transfer bribes to someone with a 50% chance of being the next president― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 5:26 AM (seven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 5:26 AM (seven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
This
The 6 month lockup is just on market trades. There’s nothing that stops the SPAC vehicle from buying shares in any quantity from existing shareholders as part of the merger. Rest assured, money will flow to trump as soon as the deal closes.
This is a massive brown envelope, partly financed by rubes who’ve bought in. The fact that the price has run up to $40 (from 10) suggests that the people who set up the SPAC to fund trump have got a lot of their money back. It’s an amazing grift.
― Ed, Monday, 25 March 2024 18:39 (three weeks ago) link
xp thanks caek!
― z_tbd, Monday, 25 March 2024 18:47 (three weeks ago) link
For those ilxors who continually bewail that Trump has never yet suffered any consequences
ah! well, nevertheless
― bae (sic), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 08:43 (three weeks ago) link
Trump claimed that he had ample cash to secure the bond but that he would prefer to use the money toward his campaign. A reporter pointed out that Trump hadn’t put his own money into his campaign since 2016, and asked if he would start again. “It’s none of your business, frankly,” Trump snapped.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 26 March 2024 12:49 (three weeks ago) link
The reporter then shrugged, glanced into his billfold, and asked the former president if he needed to borrow a few bucks
― Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 13:40 (three weeks ago) link
fuck this piece of shit
― budo jeru, Tuesday, 26 March 2024 14:03 (three weeks ago) link
strongly considering shorting DJT
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 17:07 (three weeks ago) link
I did that last election and came up just slightly ahead factoring in when I did that the election prior.The crazy thing was I put in those bets AFTER he lost.
― Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 26 March 2024 17:10 (three weeks ago) link
just to be clear, I'm talking about the Digital World Acquisition Corp stock
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 17:12 (three weeks ago) link
Ooof... well there's that saying markets can be irrational longer than you can stay solvent but it still might be worth a spite-wager, no?
― Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 26 March 2024 17:16 (three weeks ago) link
it's up about 45% today, I don't see how that's sustainable, but I'm no market genius either
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 17:22 (three weeks ago) link
I did the math. If sustained, 45% increases per day would consume the entire energy output of the sun by January 1, 2045. Verdict: unsustainable.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 17:35 (three weeks ago) link
I've seen enough, I'm shorting the sun instead.
― citation needed (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 17:40 (three weeks ago) link
it's a safe bet that over the long run the sun will burn out
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 17:56 (three weeks ago) link
Many people are saying...
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 18:06 (three weeks ago) link
stare at it and see if it does
― President Keyes, Tuesday, 26 March 2024 18:12 (three weeks ago) link
Surely not long to go now before Trump defends Putin on ignoring US warning and implicating Ukraine
― nashwan, Tuesday, 26 March 2024 18:39 (three weeks ago) link
hey, again - i'm sympathetic to the idea that truth social is actually worthless and that the 3.5 billion valuation (that i've seen attached to it in various headlines/articles over the last few months) is way too high and is being propped up by professional liars. sounds like tesla, which is definitely a worthless house of cards which will fall apart at any second once everyone sees that.
but in the meantime, in the world that is both real and more fake, which is to say, the world we live in
https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2024/03/25/truth-social-trump-media-stock-market-billions/Trump Media soars in first day of public trading
The newly merged Trump Media & Technology Group, which owns the social network Truth Social, saw its share price climb roughly 35 percent in its first morning on the Nasdaq exchange under its new ticker symbol, DJT — Trump’s initials.The company took over the stock held by Digital World Acquisition, its merger partner, which saw its share price soar on Monday more than 30 percent. Shareholders on Friday approved the merger, which was first announced in 2021.Trump owns 60 percent of Trump Media, or roughly 78 million shares, a stake now worth more than $5 billion.The company’s valuation, however, stands at odds with its business performance. Trump Media earned about $3.4 million in revenue and lost $49 million in the first nine months of 2023, a Securities and Exchange Commission filing shows.By noon, the Trump company’s shares were trading for about $67 — around the same price as the discussion-board platform Reddit, which went public last week, has tens of millions more active users than Truth Social and generated more than $800 million in revenue last year.The trading frenzy has helped make the company one of the largest parts of Trump’s net worth, according to Bloomberg, which said Monday was “the single-greatest day on record for the former president’s wealth” and had elevated him for the first time onto its list of the 500 richest people.Trump, however, can’t sell his shares or use them as collateral for six months due to a common business-deal provision, known as a lockup, designed to give investors confidence that major shareholders won’t quickly cash out once a deal closes....
The company took over the stock held by Digital World Acquisition, its merger partner, which saw its share price soar on Monday more than 30 percent. Shareholders on Friday approved the merger, which was first announced in 2021.
Trump owns 60 percent of Trump Media, or roughly 78 million shares, a stake now worth more than $5 billion.
The company’s valuation, however, stands at odds with its business performance. Trump Media earned about $3.4 million in revenue and lost $49 million in the first nine months of 2023, a Securities and Exchange Commission filing shows.
By noon, the Trump company’s shares were trading for about $67 — around the same price as the discussion-board platform Reddit, which went public last week, has tens of millions more active users than Truth Social and generated more than $800 million in revenue last year.
The trading frenzy has helped make the company one of the largest parts of Trump’s net worth, according to Bloomberg, which said Monday was “the single-greatest day on record for the former president’s wealth” and had elevated him for the first time onto its list of the 500 richest people.
Trump, however, can’t sell his shares or use them as collateral for six months due to a common business-deal provision, known as a lockup, designed to give investors confidence that major shareholders won’t quickly cash out once a deal closes.
― z_tbd, Tuesday, 26 March 2024 19:21 (three weeks ago) link
also, regarding that 6 month waiting period until he can cash out:
The merger agreement says Trump could waive his six-month lockup provision with approval from Trump Media’s board, whose directors now include Nunes, Trump’s son Donald Trump Jr., and several high-profile Trump allies, including Robert E. Lighthizer, Linda McMahon and Kash Patel, an SEC filing shows.But allowing Trump to cash out early could flood the market and erode the company’s share price, financial experts told The Washington Post.
But allowing Trump to cash out early could flood the market and erode the company’s share price, financial experts told The Washington Post.
― z_tbd, Tuesday, 26 March 2024 19:25 (three weeks ago) link
Meanwhile, all I can conclude at this point is that Trump likes being gagged: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/judge-hush-money-case-hits-trump-partial-gag-order-rcna145170
Which, I mean, no kink-shaming here.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 19:26 (three weeks ago) link
sadly my account didn't have access to shares to sell, it was up near $75 when I was looking at it, now below $67
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 19:27 (three weeks ago) link
the world we live in
yup. stock manipulation has a proud history stretching back to the first stock markets in London and Paris and it's one of the more lucrative of the dark arts. this is one for the record books.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 19:34 (three weeks ago) link
God Bless The USA Bible
― visiting, Tuesday, 26 March 2024 19:41 (three weeks ago) link
"Make America PRAY again' barf
― Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 26 March 2024 19:47 (three weeks ago) link
Organizers of the 'Make America Pray, Or Else' movement cite the Second Amendment as a great assistance to their efforts.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 19:53 (three weeks ago) link
a bible with a bill of rights appendix, the pledge of allegiance... can't get more christian nationalist than that
― Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 26 March 2024 19:56 (three weeks ago) link
the bible shit is just noise to defray talk about his legal position. effective tactic for this guy over the years. clown a little, they focus on the clown shoes
― J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 19:59 (three weeks ago) link
All Americans need a bible in their home and I have many … to sell.
― Requiem for a Dream: The Musical! (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 20:48 (three weeks ago) link
In re that gag order I find this bit mentioned by the NYT even more telling:
In an unrelated order Tuesday, Justice Merchan issued a stern warning to Mr. Trump’s lawyers as well. He reminded them to behave professionally, or risk being held in contempt.“This court emphasizes that it hopes for and fully expects zealous advocacy from counsel as well as spirited contribution from witnesses and parties alike,” Justice Merchan wrote. “Nonetheless, the court expects that the line between zealous advocacy and willful disregard of its orders will not be crossed.”
“This court emphasizes that it hopes for and fully expects zealous advocacy from counsel as well as spirited contribution from witnesses and parties alike,” Justice Merchan wrote. “Nonetheless, the court expects that the line between zealous advocacy and willful disregard of its orders will not be crossed.”
This is not how you want to be addressed before the case has even begun.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 26 March 2024 20:53 (three weeks ago) link
where's the consequences?
/qualmsley
― I painted my teeth (sleeve), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 21:01 (three weeks ago) link
they're hidden in 21 cardboard file boxes stacked in a secret cupboard at Mar A Lago
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 21:31 (three weeks ago) link
There's not a Cross nor a picture of Jesus on the page, but plenty of photos of Trump. Who do you think this $60 bible is for?It sure isn't for Jesus. https://t.co/9Q9v8Gk2qf— Gregory Minchak (@gminchak) March 26, 2024
― Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 26 March 2024 22:10 (three weeks ago) link
“This is not how you want to be addressed before the case has even begun.”
Yuuuup
This is the court saying “fuck around and find out”
― Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 22:37 (three weeks ago) link
i'm sympathetic to the idea that truth social is actually worthless and that the 3.5 billion valuation (that i've seen attached to it in various headlines/articles over the last few months) is way too high and is being propped up by professional liars.
Supposedly most of the market was people who were buying DJT in order to short it. But I'm afraid of some sort of The Producers scenario, in which between the would-be short sellers and the true believers who HODL on to stiggit to the libz, somehow leads to TS having enough market value for Trump to realize substantial gains.
(Disclaimer: I have not seen any version of The Producers.)
― Infanta Terrible (j.lu), Wednesday, 27 March 2024 16:55 (three weeks ago) link
Not even the 1931 version?
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 27 March 2024 16:56 (three weeks ago) link
more motions to dismiss based on constitutional grounds happening now in Fulton County and streaming live
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Thursday, 28 March 2024 14:31 (three weeks ago) link
good morning, where's the consequences?
― I painted my teeth (sleeve), Thursday, 28 March 2024 14:32 (three weeks ago) link
guess we need to see if the actual trial ever happens
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Thursday, 28 March 2024 14:33 (three weeks ago) link
Even after he’s dead and buried, the “good morning!/where’s the ____?” one/two punch combo should stick around here
― Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 28 March 2024 15:08 (three weeks ago) link
Where's the wooden stake?
― President Keyes, Thursday, 28 March 2024 15:10 (three weeks ago) link
I do my best to compartmentalize and go about life, but I feel like this asshole has been eroding my soul for years now.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 28 March 2024 15:12 (three weeks ago) link
Same
― Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 28 March 2024 15:12 (three weeks ago) link
x3
― I painted my teeth (sleeve), Thursday, 28 March 2024 15:13 (three weeks ago) link
Ha I’m on a rad trip through FL this week and kinda near Mar a Lago and thought about driving by but then thought “why is this guy in my head so much? Fuck Mar a Lago!!”
― tobo73, Thursday, 28 March 2024 15:18 (three weeks ago) link
It hurts the soul a bit to realize we are sliding into the abyss with little power to stop it.
― Slorg is not on the Slerf Team, you idiot, you moron (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 28 March 2024 15:22 (three weeks ago) link
Negronis for everyone!
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 28 March 2024 15:23 (three weeks ago) link
Not being a US citizen probably makes it easier but after this guy got voted out I decided to excise him from my head, UNLESS something bad is happening to him like being hauled into court. Trump said something bad? Don't click the link - the substance of what he said is irrelevant. He whined about a witch hunt? Who cares. Life's hard enough without some clown (who's completely unaware of your existence) poisoning your precious thoughts.
― squirm baby squirm (Matt #2), Thursday, 28 March 2024 15:25 (three weeks ago) link
Don't worry, someone's on the case
https://www.yahoo.com/news/obama-fearing-biden-loss-trump-112028784.html
― President Keyes, Thursday, 28 March 2024 15:26 (three weeks ago) link
― squirm baby squirm (Matt #2),
Same here. Now that MSNBC has retreated to its did-you-HEAR-what-Trump-said mode on its non-Chris Hayes broadcasts it's way easier to tune him out.
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 28 March 2024 15:29 (three weeks ago) link
Back in SE Pennsylvania again, there are still no (literal) signs of the guy, which is passively reassuring. But I was just driving around the North Carolina research triangle and environs - Raleigh, Durham, Chapel Hill, Greensboro, etc. - and I know that area is probably an outlier but I didn't see any signs or stickers there, either. Some Biden, some pro-choice billboards, some lingering Haley yard signs, but no Trump. Probably because this one exception was hogging all the flair:
https://imgur.com/9ec2a40a-5e91-44c6-85e6-8daec81ad3d9
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 28 March 2024 15:43 (three weeks ago) link
dammithttps://i.imgur.com/jSVuErU.jpeg
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 28 March 2024 15:45 (three weeks ago) link
Not sure the "My Body" and "L0ve Them B0th" stickers aren't cancelling each other out there
― squirm baby squirm (Matt #2), Thursday, 28 March 2024 15:48 (three weeks ago) link
Love them both: Guns and Trump
― President Keyes, Thursday, 28 March 2024 15:54 (three weeks ago) link
the fault dear usa is not in our trump, but in ourselves etc etc
― schrodingers cat was always cool (Hunt3r), Thursday, 28 March 2024 16:18 (three weeks ago) link
xpost The "my body" one is anti-vax, if you check out the detail.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 28 March 2024 16:27 (three weeks ago) link
Obviously committed voting fraud if he has Youngkin and Bob Good stickers along with all the NC specific ones.
― Slorg is not on the Slerf Team, you idiot, you moron (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 28 March 2024 16:27 (three weeks ago) link
Not Trump related but it was great to see Youngkin eat shit with the Capitals/Wizards arena
― Slorg is not on the Slerf Team, you idiot, you moron (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 28 March 2024 16:28 (three weeks ago) link
Virginia's for lovers, but trust there's hate hereFor out-of-towners, who think that they gon' move weight here
― President Keyes, Thursday, 28 March 2024 16:32 (three weeks ago) link
lol PK
― Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 28 March 2024 16:48 (three weeks ago) link
I’m from Virginia, where ain’t nothing to do but mook
would love to know who the single person at the trump rally was who went “whooo!” when david lynch was mentioned pic.twitter.com/KWJTUEkHnT— eleanor (@dimestorepaglia) March 28, 2024
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 28 March 2024 17:49 (three weeks ago) link
why did he mention David Lynch?
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Thursday, 28 March 2024 18:01 (three weeks ago) link
This guy?
https://imagenes.elpais.com/resizer/dDo8M-ikZnl3zdNCGMHvjqogGEU=/1960x0/cloudfront-eu-central-1.images.arcpublishing.com/prisa/2DJ7KWXAKD4RRWB3NDMJ67SKA4.jpg
― President Keyes, Thursday, 28 March 2024 18:01 (three weeks ago) link
SE PA update: still no Trump flags, but I've now seen a couple of pickups with big American flags mounted on the back, so I assume they are in the zone.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 28 March 2024 18:30 (three weeks ago) link
Don't worry, in 2020 they had roadside stands in SE PA where you could buy Trump flags for your big ass truck.
― President Keyes, Thursday, 28 March 2024 18:33 (three weeks ago) link
Like when the Eagles are in the Superbowl
I don't think David Lynch has ever openly supported Trump but he did say something like "Why not just give him a chance? See what he can do." (This when Trump was president.) Which he walked back pretty quickly, as I recall.
― henry s, Thursday, 28 March 2024 18:52 (three weeks ago) link
The guy probably just heard the word "lynch."
― nickn, Thursday, 28 March 2024 18:53 (three weeks ago) link
I've said this before but I had never seen more Confederate flags in my life in one place than in rural Southwestern Pennsylvania in 2016 or so, more than even in the parts of the South I've traveled (never been to Mississippi or Alabama). And waaaaay more than I've ever seen in Maryland.
― Slorg is not on the Slerf Team, you idiot, you moron (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 28 March 2024 18:55 (three weeks ago) link
Pennsyltucky
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 28 March 2024 19:07 (three weeks ago) link
I've mentioned in the past that the small town where my mom lives in rural Illinois (1,700 population) has a Trump Store that sells (as far as I can tell from the road, fuck if I'll investigate more closely) flags and stickers and such, in a small strip on the main drag. Whenever I visit I always hope to see it vacant again, but sadly this weekend I saw that it has doubled in size, now taking over an additional storefront. The economy must be booming if there is that much money flowing for Trump merch!
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 28 March 2024 19:08 (three weeks ago) link
They should sell hams in his image.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 28 March 2024 19:13 (three weeks ago) link
that's the thing that the cultists can't understand... we just don't care about Joe Biden that much, but we're still gonna vote for him (at least most of us will)... we won't buy a flag or a bible or wear a kooky Biden hat, he's not that kind of figure. He's just a politician that takes up very little space in my head for the most part
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 28 March 2024 19:22 (three weeks ago) link
small wonder
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 28 March 2024 19:24 (three weeks ago) link
He hasn't even inspired a Shepard Fairey piece, ffs.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 28 March 2024 19:24 (three weeks ago) link
JOPE
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 28 March 2024 19:25 (three weeks ago) link
I take that back, he has, but not an iconic one like Obama's
https://cdn.musebycl.io/2021-01/Which-Future-Biden-Greenpeace-30x40.jpg
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 28 March 2024 19:26 (three weeks ago) link
tHe's just a politician that takes up very little space in my head for the most part
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, March 28, 2024 3:22 PM (fifty-eight seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink
that was bidens promise, which is a typically paltry stupid dem fantasy, but at this point a good chunk his potential constituency actively dislike him, with many feeling much more negative
― lag∞n, Thursday, 28 March 2024 19:28 (three weeks ago) link
someone in my neighborhood has the Trump-as-Rambo flag and all I can think every time I see it is if I saw someone do that with Joe Biden that person is either hilarious or needs to be committed
― frogbs, Thursday, 28 March 2024 19:29 (three weeks ago) link
dems should get someone that will inspire that sort of psychosis tho
― lag∞n, Thursday, 28 March 2024 19:30 (three weeks ago) link
I mean, if anyone could do it, it would be a Kennedy.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 28 March 2024 19:31 (three weeks ago) link
naw kennedys are cooked, fuck a dynasty anyway, need someone whos willing to get in there and mix it up a little
― lag∞n, Thursday, 28 March 2024 19:32 (three weeks ago) link
Michelle Obama
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 28 March 2024 19:33 (three weeks ago) link
yeah she could run on a hugging george w bush platform lol
― lag∞n, Thursday, 28 March 2024 19:36 (three weeks ago) link
AOC is 35 in 2028 yeah?
― I painted my teeth (sleeve), Thursday, 28 March 2024 19:37 (three weeks ago) link
She turns 35 this October
― President Keyes, Thursday, 28 March 2024 19:38 (three weeks ago) link
who knows what the real dynamics are but if she was currently in a primary v biden talking about cutting israel off people would be going wild it would be some shit, part of what made trump work was breaking republican taboos and just not being a typical on message politician, idk if theres something out there like that for dems but its interesting to ponder
― lag∞n, Thursday, 28 March 2024 19:42 (three weeks ago) link
by teh time millenials get their candidates eligible they won't be cool anymore just warning you about how this shit goes
― schrodingers cat was always cool (Hunt3r), Thursday, 28 March 2024 19:44 (three weeks ago) link
its politics its not cool
― lag∞n, Thursday, 28 March 2024 19:46 (three weeks ago) link
McGovern in '72
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 28 March 2024 19:47 (three weeks ago) link
the problem is Dems actually care about results and passing bills and stuff with the GOP it's just all vibes which is a lot easier to control
― frogbs, Thursday, 28 March 2024 19:47 (three weeks ago) link
i would argue that the dem party vibe is passing bills and stuff, do they actually pass bills and stuff no of course not, its a shitty vibe technocrats neoliberalism the managerial class etc, from a political perspective its what you could call loser stuff, a party designed to lose, which is what makes it vulnerable to someone who not totally motivated by sitting on corporate boards in retirement
― lag∞n, Thursday, 28 March 2024 19:52 (three weeks ago) link
if I saw someone do that with Joe Biden that person is either hilarious or needs to be committed
I think the only equivalent is the Dark Biden meme or whatever it is
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 28 March 2024 19:53 (three weeks ago) link
that meme only exists to needle people on the right I think
― frogbs, Thursday, 28 March 2024 20:00 (three weeks ago) link
an ironic joke that became post ironic via context collapse as things do
― lag∞n, Thursday, 28 March 2024 20:04 (three weeks ago) link
I continue to be surprised that the old Biden 'shops from the Onion never made a resurgence over the past several years.
― Great-Tasting Burger Perceptions (Old Lunch), Thursday, 28 March 2024 20:06 (three weeks ago) link
I think Obama was seen as pretty cool until he started trying to work with the Republicans and kept getting his ass handed to him. Oh, and droning people.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 28 March 2024 20:11 (three weeks ago) link
obama ran on hope and change then didnt hope or change anything, he was obvs just a very good electoral politician, but that trick only works once, he had something going but then totally shut it down cause at heart he was another centrist dem with "self" defeating ideas about governing
― lag∞n, Thursday, 28 March 2024 20:16 (three weeks ago) link
Yeah, but he became cool again when he started hanging with Lin Manuel Miranda and making Spotify playlists.
― President Keyes, Thursday, 28 March 2024 20:19 (three weeks ago) link
i found out about the underground rap artist jay z from obama
― lag∞n, Thursday, 28 March 2024 20:20 (three weeks ago) link
bernie is the real proof of concept weird old grumpy man who no one had ever heard of walked out of the vermont woods to give the anointed dem nominee a run for their money, some just completely left field shit, is bernie cool no of course not it doesnt matter
― lag∞n, Thursday, 28 March 2024 20:21 (three weeks ago) link
weird old grumpy man who no one had ever heard of
He was in the House of Representatives for almost 20 years and the Senate for a decade before he ran for president the first time.
― Tahuti Watches L&O:SVU Reruns Without His Ape (unperson), Thursday, 28 March 2024 20:25 (three weeks ago) link
whats yr point
― lag∞n, Thursday, 28 March 2024 20:29 (three weeks ago) link
a big dem impediment to having a good candidate from a voter pov, obvs nothing compared to corporate influence etc haha, is too many dems have expert syndrome they cant just like something they try to nate silver it, absolutely no theory of change just a bunch of cheap heuristics and historical anecdotes they think are universal laws, conclusions worse than if they were just folks
also their messaging sucks
― a (waterface), Thursday, 28 March 2024 20:31 (three weeks ago) link
imo thats more a result of the things they want sucking than being bad at messaging particularly
― lag∞n, Thursday, 28 March 2024 20:33 (three weeks ago) link
i think if michelle obama ran as an independent that she would win.
― scott seward, Thursday, 28 March 2024 20:36 (three weeks ago) link
― lag∞n, Thursday, March 28, 2024 8:33 PM (four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
yah for sure. "compromise" instead of, you know, "crazy stuff" (a 32 hour work week is not that crazy. but this will go nowhere.)
https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/4728
― a (waterface), Thursday, 28 March 2024 20:39 (three weeks ago) link
Oh absolutely that bill will go nowhere, but otoh, things like that are what plant the seed for eventual change so... I'm not mad at it, even knowing it's just a symbolic thing at this particular point in history.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 28 March 2024 20:41 (three weeks ago) link
― scott seward, Thursday, March 28, 2024 4:36 PM (five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
other things aside i dont think that coming together as a nation rhetoric plays these days
― lag∞n, Thursday, 28 March 2024 20:44 (three weeks ago) link
the example I keep bringing up is how everyone thought "build a wall" was the dumbest shit regardless of political affiliation but once Trump started winning primaries suddenly it became popular on the right. imagine that with an idea that's actually good and can be accomplished
― frogbs, Thursday, 28 March 2024 20:45 (three weeks ago) link
xpost When they go low, we go LOL
― President Keyes, Thursday, 28 March 2024 20:45 (three weeks ago) link
xpost I nominate "Soak the Rich"
― President Keyes, Thursday, 28 March 2024 20:47 (three weeks ago) link
we as a nation must hug it out
https://i.imgur.com/xZOzv6v.png
― lag∞n, Thursday, 28 March 2024 20:48 (three weeks ago) link
you know upon reflection could the country go for another vague inspirational obama campaign, they might im not gonna rule it out, obvs there are other particulars re michelle not being a politician but big picture it could maybe work
― lag∞n, Thursday, 28 March 2024 20:53 (three weeks ago) link
I love that all the former living presidents are all buddy-buddy, a club that Trump will never be allowed to join
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 28 March 2024 20:54 (three weeks ago) link
illuminati application rejected!
― lag∞n, Thursday, 28 March 2024 20:55 (three weeks ago) link
https://preview.redd.it/we-know-that-by-the-time-of-its-end-the-stonecutter-v0-29aq4xchdvfa1.png?auto=webp&s=608ddc3f86b5c3a4cb4f32645ac2557295c78585
― I painted my teeth (sleeve), Thursday, 28 March 2024 20:58 (three weeks ago) link
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, March 28, 2024 3:54 PM (four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
To say nothing of the former presidents’ children
― Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 28 March 2024 21:00 (three weeks ago) link
they're all Skull & Bones, he's just a bonehead
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 28 March 2024 21:09 (three weeks ago) link
Yeah they all go to Yale for Christ’s sake
― Slorg is not on the Slerf Team, you idiot, you moron (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 28 March 2024 21:19 (three weeks ago) link
oprah could win. people love oprah. oprah/obama 24.
― scott seward, Thursday, 28 March 2024 22:08 (three weeks ago) link
Right wing heads would explode. Which would be a bonus.
They've already convinced themselves that Michelle is actually a man.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 28 March 2024 22:12 (three weeks ago) link
There should be a Trump Library but it's just full of all the bad press about him.
― nashwan, Thursday, 28 March 2024 22:12 (three weeks ago) link
Would vote for RFK before Oprah
― President Keyes, Thursday, 28 March 2024 22:13 (three weeks ago) link
what'd I miss -- Obama's running again?
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 28 March 2024 22:25 (three weeks ago) link
running for... podcaster of the year!
― lag∞n, Thursday, 28 March 2024 22:31 (three weeks ago) link
The spectacle of Donald Trump selling $60 Bibles is “a spit in the face of people that really believe”, the Rev Al Sharpton said, amid widespread backlash over the presumptive Republican presidential nominee’s latest moneymaking scheme.
“Blasphemy certainly comes to mind,” Sharpton told MSNBC.
“I think that people ought to realize how offensive this is to those of us that really believe in the Bible. He’s doing this during Holy Week. Tomorrow is Good Friday, Sunday is Easter. Of all of the times you want to hustle using the Bible, why would you do it during Holy Week, which is really a spit in the face of people that really believe in the Bible from a Christian point of view?”
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 28 March 2024 23:14 (three weeks ago) link
i can't watch al sharpton on t.v. i just can't.
― scott seward, Thursday, 28 March 2024 23:17 (three weeks ago) link
i feel like he belongs in a time capsule with trump.
couple old school new yorkers gotta love it baby
― lag∞n, Thursday, 28 March 2024 23:23 (three weeks ago) link
i was sick of both of them in the 80s! i just read too many tabloids back then...the daily news was on fire back then.
― scott seward, Thursday, 28 March 2024 23:32 (three weeks ago) link
morelike al bluntton amirite
― close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Thursday, 28 March 2024 23:35 (three weeks ago) link
"sweatsuit" sharpton and donnie "trump the board game" trump, just a couple neighborhood guys
― lag∞n, Thursday, 28 March 2024 23:37 (three weeks ago) link
Crackin’ knuckles, breakin’ hearts, buyin’ BRYLCREEM by the case
― Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 28 March 2024 23:40 (three weeks ago) link
ugh...
― scott seward, Thursday, 28 March 2024 23:54 (three weeks ago) link
LOOOOOOOK AT MEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!
just forever and ever. don't they ever get tired of it?
Citing a source “familiar with the details of the business arrangement”, the New York Times reported that Trump is “getting royalties” from purchases of the branded Bible
holy shit, he wrote the bible? what a mensch
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 29 March 2024 00:07 (three weeks ago) link
yeah hes Q
― lag∞n, Friday, 29 March 2024 00:12 (three weeks ago) link
My father-in-law taught a high school social studies class where one of the students was a teenage Al Sharpton. FIL says that Sharpton was very bright and opinionated.
― Slorg is not on the Slerf Team, you idiot, you moron (Boring, Maryland), Friday, 29 March 2024 00:49 (three weeks ago) link
sounds about right
― lag∞n, Friday, 29 March 2024 00:54 (three weeks ago) link
― Is he an evil man who makes chocolate or is the chocolate itself evil? (stevie), Friday, 29 March 2024 06:26 (three weeks ago) link
can someone who speaks "conservative" do me a solid and explain why it's okay for lara trump to be the head of the RNC but joe biden should be impeached because his son does business? thanks in advance!
― reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 29 March 2024 14:25 (three weeks ago) link
It's okay when we do it but not okay when you do it?
― Great-Tasting Burger Perceptions (Old Lunch), Friday, 29 March 2024 14:28 (three weeks ago) link
Because Hunter's penis
― President Keyes, Friday, 29 March 2024 14:28 (three weeks ago) link
But Lara Trump's penis is a-ok.
I mean, blatantly hypocrisy trails just behind cruelty as central trait of modern conservatism. Tribalism at its finest.
― Great-Tasting Burger Perceptions (Old Lunch), Friday, 29 March 2024 14:30 (three weeks ago) link
Preserve your sanity and remember the rule is "we do what we want; you do what you're told"
― the absence of bikes (f. hazel), Friday, 29 March 2024 14:49 (three weeks ago) link
Hypocrisy is far down the list of things to hate about the Right. They believe anything is justified.
― President Keyes, Friday, 29 March 2024 14:55 (three weeks ago) link
That Christie considered a third-party bid at all is in part an indictment of Biden.
. . .Prominent former GOP officeholders, from George W. Bush to Mike Pence to Paul Ryan, also haven’t been contacted.
This writer is fucking deranged
― a (waterface), Friday, 29 March 2024 15:02 (three weeks ago) link
I reached out to every current Republican lawmaker who has refused to commit to Trump in the general election. Sens. Susan Collins (Maine) Mitt Romney (Utah), Todd Young (Indiana), Bill Cassidy (Louisiana) and Lisa Murkowski (Alaska) all said the same: they’ve not heard from Biden.“It is surprising,” Collins told me. “It’s especially surprising because President Biden does understand the Senate, he has personal relationships with some of us.”
― a (waterface), Friday, 29 March 2024 15:03 (three weeks ago) link
Contact them for what? To hear their expressions of "concern"? JFC.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 29 March 2024 15:04 (three weeks ago) link
Maybe it’s too early, in the campaign’s mind.
Would their voices even make a difference?
― Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 29 March 2024 15:06 (three weeks ago) link
I was promised property seizures this week, guess not!
― I painted my teeth (sleeve), Friday, 29 March 2024 15:09 (three weeks ago) link
of course they're waiting for Biden to come to them, why do the right thing when you could withhold your endorsement to extract favors
― the absence of bikes (f. hazel), Friday, 29 March 2024 15:11 (three weeks ago) link
This is the question. To paraphrase Stalin, how many divisions does Chris Christie have? How about Susan Collins?
― Tahuti Watches L&O:SVU Reruns Without His Ape (unperson), Friday, 29 March 2024 15:11 (three weeks ago) link
I'm finding it increasingly difficult to discount the existence of demonic entities to whom one can sell their soul in exchange for a lifetime of moderate success and pretty much consequence-free malfeasance. I'm not exactly sure how else to explain how this motherfucker manages to effortlessly tiptoe between every motherfucking raindrop. Oh, you say a billion-dollar valuation of a meme stock is what staved off his financial ruin today? Okay, cool, yes, this is indeed still a rational world.
― Great-Tasting Burger Perceptions (Old Lunch), Friday, 29 March 2024 15:16 (three weeks ago) link
It's true, Americans deeply care about what Susan Collins thinks.
― Slorg is not on the Slerf Team, you idiot, you moron (Boring, Maryland), Friday, 29 March 2024 15:20 (three weeks ago) link
Susan Collins would talk about endorsing Biden for three months before finally endorsing Trump
― President Keyes, Friday, 29 March 2024 15:21 (three weeks ago) link
Operation Pieceofsh!t, recruiting the Republicans who took one for the team. But can they build rockets?
― the body of a spider... (scampering alpaca), Friday, 29 March 2024 15:24 (three weeks ago) link
while I have my concerns about the man's litany of crimes, up to and including trying to overthrow the federal government, the country cannot withstand four more years of Biden's divisive rhetoric
― frogbs, Friday, 29 March 2024 15:24 (three weeks ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/4ThOV8Y.jpg
"Look! An independent voter!"
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 29 March 2024 15:24 (three weeks ago) link
play them your brett kavanaugh speech, susan, you independent motherfucker!!!
― z_tbd, Friday, 29 March 2024 15:44 (three weeks ago) link
...mornin' everyone
― z_tbd, Friday, 29 March 2024 15:45 (three weeks ago) link
i put on that Frontline movie about Trump, Democracy on Trial, and its so ominous. especially with scary Frontline narrator.
― scott seward, Saturday, 30 March 2024 14:40 (three weeks ago) link
a special easter message!
https://i.imgur.com/fikUXeH.png
― z_tbd, Monday, 1 April 2024 15:55 (two weeks ago) link
He has risen.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 1 April 2024 15:56 (two weeks ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIghUfCim-k
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 1 April 2024 15:58 (two weeks ago) link
JOE THUGS
― President Keyes, Monday, 1 April 2024 16:34 (two weeks ago) link
uh oh, DJT stock is currently shedding nearly 25% of it's value today
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Monday, 1 April 2024 16:57 (two weeks ago) link
That’s… too bad
― Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 1 April 2024 17:12 (two weeks ago) link
working on my essay abt the role of well-enforced wordcount in 21st century politics
― mark s, Monday, 1 April 2024 17:13 (two weeks ago) link
Don’t worry sophisticated stock picker Josh Marshall has called the bottom tick, to the moon from here
Truth Social now rebounding off low! pic.twitter.com/XPVVn4nqqW— Josh Marshall (@joshtpm) April 1, 2024
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 1 April 2024 17:29 (two weeks ago) link
hard to parse the layers of sarcasm here...
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Monday, 1 April 2024 17:34 (two weeks ago) link
why line go down
― lag∞n, Monday, 1 April 2024 17:36 (two weeks ago) link
Trump: "Get me a Sharpie!"
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 1 April 2024 17:40 (two weeks ago) link
i guess this is what precipitated it but its not like it wasnt known that it was losing tons of money company
New: Trump Media — the parent company of Truth Social — recorded $58m in losses against $4m in revenue in 2023, per SEC filings. The merger to take the company public last week unlocked new capital but the business fundamentals don’t justify $7bn valuation.— Hugo Lowell (@hugolowell) April 1, 2024
― lag∞n, Monday, 1 April 2024 17:47 (two weeks ago) link
The weird thing for me is how this was known from the start but traders only ramped up the selling after the filing happened.
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Monday, 1 April 2024 18:01 (two weeks ago) link
As someone pointed out, Truth Social is about as successful as your average McDonald's franchise.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 1 April 2024 18:03 (two weeks ago) link
i saw a mcdonalds commercial last night that went with the inspirational pr mood package, and as somber piano played it told me that 1 in 8 people in the united states had worked at mcdonalds at some point.
i thought, "damn, imagine if companies really did take care of their workers and paid them a fair wage and gave them benefits"
― z_tbd, Monday, 1 April 2024 18:38 (two weeks ago) link
pump dump trump
― schrodingers cat was always cool (Hunt3r), Monday, 1 April 2024 23:04 (two weeks ago) link
that's my guy
Just in: Trump’s gag order in the New York criminal case expanded to cover relatives of the presiding judge and the Manhattan DA after Trump last week went after the judge’s daughter— Hugo Lowell (@hugolowell) April 2, 2024
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 2 April 2024 00:01 (two weeks ago) link
He's posted that bond, BTW -- notably not through the Chubb folks again. (The fact that it took him a week is enough of a tell.)
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 2 April 2024 00:40 (two weeks ago) link
it is pretty impressive that he seems to be meme stocking his way out of the civil judgment. the guy is like a greased pig, you can't get em.
― treeship., Tuesday, 2 April 2024 01:02 (two weeks ago) link
Isn't the stock price plunging?
― CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 2 April 2024 01:05 (two weeks ago) link
still pretty high for a worthless company and people are buying on the dip. i hope it plunges, obviously, but it seems like the kind of stupid thing that will save his ass.
― treeship., Tuesday, 2 April 2024 01:06 (two weeks ago) link
it is pretty impressive that he seems to be meme stocking his way out of the civil judgment.
That's not what's happening at all. He hasn't been granted the waiver that would allow him to sell his shares before six months have elapsed, and the stock has lost a quarter of its "value" in the last 24 hours, so by the time he gets his hands on the money he ought to be able to get lunch at Subway out of it, assuming he's got a full punch card to redeem at the same time.
― Tahuti Watches L&O:SVU Reruns Without His Ape (unperson), Tuesday, 2 April 2024 01:07 (two weeks ago) link
idk maybe
― treeship., Tuesday, 2 April 2024 01:08 (two weeks ago) link
even if the price held until he was allowed to sell hed have a hard time cashing much in without driving it down
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 2 April 2024 01:13 (two weeks ago) link
i think he has some sort of scheme running, or someone else does, that will allow this stock to stay high for a long enough time. he has more power behind him now than he did in 2016, as seen in things like project 2025.
― treeship., Tuesday, 2 April 2024 01:14 (two weeks ago) link
if people want to prop the price up they might as well just give him the money it amounts to the same thing, which shows the problem with him selling hundreds of millions of dollars of it, is there hundreds of millions of dollars out there willing to be transferred to his account
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 2 April 2024 01:20 (two weeks ago) link
hmm is there anything happening in about 6 months time that might affect the value of stock in $DJT?
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 2 April 2024 01:29 (two weeks ago) link
The first presidential debates uh wait
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 2 April 2024 01:51 (two weeks ago) link
Anyway per Forbes via a Bluesky summary:
NEW: Trump secured his $175 million bond with a combination of cash and investment-grade bonds, per Don Hankey, chair of Knight Insurance and the "little-known king of subprime car loans." A supporter of Jeb Bush and then Trump, Hankey says he reached out to Trump with the offer.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 2 April 2024 01:56 (two weeks ago) link
i consider myself a bit of a little-known king of subprime car loans too
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 2 April 2024 01:57 (two weeks ago) link
Elevated circles!
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 2 April 2024 01:58 (two weeks ago) link
"Duke of Saxony" feeling pretty shabby rn
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 2 April 2024 02:07 (two weeks ago) link
MR. HANKEY
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 2 April 2024 02:15 (two weeks ago) link
Abe Froman passed on the opportunity
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 2 April 2024 12:54 (two weeks ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQML0_YASCI
― scott seward, Tuesday, 2 April 2024 13:35 (two weeks ago) link
Apparently not "anything."
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 2 April 2024 13:39 (two weeks ago) link
John Ganz, who I find worthwhile even when I don't totally agree with him, has an interesting post up about a new collection of essays debating the "Is Trump Fascist" question. Ganz is more on the side of "yes" — calling Trump semi- or proto-fascist — but is mostly writing about how dug in some of the liberal intellectuals in the "No he isn't" camp are, and why.
https://www.unpopularfront.news/p/what-happened-here
I've never been sure how much this debate really matters, since I think the actual facts of Trump are pretty plain for everyone to see, whatever you call them. Ganz otm here: "The simple fact is this: Trump would be dictator if he could, but it’s not that easy, and he probably won’t be able to become one. I don’t think anybody can honestly say, 'No, he really doesn’t have that aspiration or will at all.'”
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 2 April 2024 14:02 (two weeks ago) link
I think Trump is very used to having his word be law in his companies, however much of a sham they are. No doubt, he would like the government be the same way. I can't think of a more obvious example, in this country at least, of someone letting the power of the presidency go to his head.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 2 April 2024 14:04 (two weeks ago) link
I think he's clearly a fascist, but not like other fascists in history, for example I think he would without a doubt sell out the entire Republican party if it meant ridding him of his legal issues
― frogbs, Tuesday, 2 April 2024 14:07 (two weeks ago) link
Perlstein has a related thread:
I said no more, but I think it might be a useful contribution to expand upon a criticism I've had on @coreyrobin's classic everyone has to read, The Reactionary Mind, since it became such a powerful influence on me upon first reading. It ends making the argument that...— Rick Perlstein (@rickperlstein) March 31, 2024
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 2 April 2024 14:10 (two weeks ago) link
...the gist of which is that just because Trump isn't Hitler or Mussolini doesn't mean he isn't a fascist.
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 2 April 2024 14:11 (two weeks ago) link
Americans keep expecting their fascism to be of that of a Golan-Globus movie villain, which is the only reason they deny he's a fascist
"if he was a fascist, he'd tell us!"
― CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 2 April 2024 14:15 (two weeks ago) link
just like when Lindsay Graham was saying "it wasn't a quid pro quo, he didn't announce he was doing a crime"
― CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 2 April 2024 14:16 (two weeks ago) link
I wonder if Right Wing intellectuals are arguing right now about whether Biden is really a commie or not.
― President Keyes, Tuesday, 2 April 2024 14:19 (two weeks ago) link
right wing intellectuals kinda contradicting itself there
― CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 2 April 2024 14:21 (two weeks ago) link
"He told the protestors to go to the Capitol peacefully!"
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 2 April 2024 14:23 (two weeks ago) link
Robert O. Paxton got it right:
– A sense of overwhelming crisis beyond the reach of any traditional solutions;
– The primacy of the group, toward which one has duties superior to every right, whether individual or universal, and the subordination of the individual to it;
– The belief that one’s group is a victim, a sentiment that justifies any action, without legal or moral limits, against its enemies, both internal and external;
– Dread of the group’s decline under the corrosive effects of individualistic liberalism, class conflict, and alien influences;
– The need for closer integration of a purer community, by consent if possible, or by exclusionary violence if necessary;
– The need for authority by natural chiefs (always male), culminating in a national chieftain who alone is capable of incarnating the group’s historical destiny;
– The superiority of the leader’s instincts over abstract and universal reason;
– The beauty of violence and the efficacy of will, when they are devoted to the group’s success;
– The right of the chosen people to dominate others without restraint from any kind of human or divine law, right being decided by the sole criterion of the group’s prowess within a Darwinian struggle.
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― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 2 April 2024 14:25 (two weeks ago) link
- Anything is possible.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 2 April 2024 14:29 (two weeks ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PytXN5guhFw
― a (waterface), Tuesday, 2 April 2024 14:32 (two weeks ago) link
the is he a fascist debate is fun cause no one can agree what fascism is the only thing they can agree on is its a hard thing to pin down, i do think hes a fascist fwiw hes just low energy
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 2 April 2024 14:42 (two weeks ago) link
He’s a lazy fascist
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 2 April 2024 14:43 (two weeks ago) link
if he were younger and smarter he would be scarier but he's still scary as far as the damage he can inflict.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 2 April 2024 14:43 (two weeks ago) link
waterface beat me to it
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 2 April 2024 14:44 (two weeks ago) link
hes already done a lot of harm and lord knows what hell get up to if hes elected again
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 2 April 2024 14:44 (two weeks ago) link
also his fascist-friendly masterminds like stephen miller and bannon aren't exactly geniuses. which also helps.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 2 April 2024 14:44 (two weeks ago) link
i just think a swifter scary guy - if they had won in 2016 - would have had a complete 4 year plan drawn up and be ready to go. trump's team famously couldn't really figure out how to destroy big government too speedily. luckily. it isn't as easy at it looks in the movies.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 2 April 2024 14:47 (two weeks ago) link
fascists tend not to be the sharpest most competent guys but they have some insight into power at all costs and riling people up which sometimes is enough
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 2 April 2024 14:48 (two weeks ago) link
they did their worst though! they definitely broke some of the china. credit where credit is due.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 2 April 2024 14:48 (two weeks ago) link
tbf america has a pretty robust government its some teetering rinky dink state
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 2 April 2024 14:49 (two weeks ago) link
*not some
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 2 April 2024 14:50 (two weeks ago) link
it's what barely got us through 2020
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 2 April 2024 14:51 (two weeks ago) link
having outside forces help you with your *let's wreck america* campaign helps a lot too and i don't see that happening? even people as evil as koch brothers aren't supporting him. he doesn't have a company like IBM like Hitler did. willing to go along with his crazy crap and help him achieve his goals. right wing billionaires just want tax breaks. not death camps. i think...i hope....
― scott seward, Tuesday, 2 April 2024 14:56 (two weeks ago) link
hes def got his rich guy supporters, and i think generally corporate america is fine with him, but ultimately theyd rather just have a regular predictable politician in there cause they already had a good thing going, but make no mistake if america goes fascist theyll be right there along for the ride with the nytimes et al
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 2 April 2024 15:00 (two weeks ago) link
what's the little-known king of subprime car loans getting in return though?
oh no...
TRUMP-HANKEY 2024
― StanM, Tuesday, 2 April 2024 15:02 (two weeks ago) link
RFK Jr. got the ball rolling, let's just go full-bore into presidential candidates automatically naming their biggest donors as their VP picks, why not, we still have a long way to go before we reach peak cynicism
― Great-Tasting Burger Perceptions (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 2 April 2024 15:11 (two weeks ago) link
so sad that a kennedy needed some tech arriviste to pay for stuff
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 2 April 2024 15:12 (two weeks ago) link
None of the actual fascists of the past were super-smart either, it takes other skills to be a successful fascist: total lack of shame, complete belief in one's own righteousness, etc.
― Slorg is not on the Slerf Team, you idiot, you moron (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 2 April 2024 15:46 (two weeks ago) link
Being a sociopath obviously helps. I think Trump is definitely one.
― Slorg is not on the Slerf Team, you idiot, you moron (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 2 April 2024 15:47 (two weeks ago) link
hes still got it baby
Former President Donald Trump has sued two of his co-founders at Truth Social in an attempt to acquire their stake in the company, which went public late last month.
In a suit filed on March 24, but first reported by Bloomberg on Tuesday, Trump accused The Apprentice star Andy Litinsky and Wes Moss of failing in their duties to properly set up Truth Social, which resulted in “significant damage” to the company at “a critical time.”
At the time of the lawsuit, Trump owned 90 million shares, or 90% of Trump Media Group. Litinsky and Moss’ company United Atlantic Ventures owned 8,600,000 shares, or 8.6%, while Bradford Cohen owned 1,400,000 shares (1.4%).
https://www.mediaite.com/news/trump-sues-truth-social-co-founders-for-their-stake-in-company/
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 3 April 2024 02:33 (two weeks ago) link
Lol Litinsky is a conservative radio show host. I wonder if it’s awkward talking about how great Trump is while he’s suing you.
― President Keyes, Wednesday, 3 April 2024 02:43 (two weeks ago) link
I've given up any expectations that anything will happen to this asshole (short of maybe being reelected to the White House, which is of course totally reasonable for a discredited and dangerous con man imbecile), but the latest legal stuff with the classified documents is pretty fascinating, from a strategy standpoint. When last we heard from our hero Eileen Cannon, she gave both prosecution and defense the order to come up with different jury instructions, apparently just for lols/vibes. Trump defense came up with something predictably ad hoc that hinged on BS that the presidential records act allowed Trump to do ... basically anything. Prosecution response calls Cannon on bullshit, saying the Trump jury instruction defense is not based in law, essentially telling her to either rule and dismiss the case (which can be appealed) or forget this dueling jury instruction shit.
Turns out that if the judge fucks up (intentionally or not) and makes a decision mid-trial based on erroneous bullshit and the jury comes back with a not guilty, the prosecution can *not* appeal. So prosecution in this case is, as I understand it, demanding the bullshit games stop, that Cannon rules/dismisses the case so they can appeal or they're going over Cannon's head.
Again, nothing is going to happen to Trump or Cannon or anything or anybody, ever, but it's nice to see some dramatic pushback.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 3 April 2024 12:31 (two weeks ago) link
Question: Assuming he does not win the election to pres this time, isn't he just going to come back again in four years? Until croak or win?
― Mark G, Wednesday, 3 April 2024 13:12 (two weeks ago) link
No I reckon he’ll take the L with grace and dignity
― subpost master (wins), Wednesday, 3 April 2024 13:14 (two weeks ago) link
Be nicer if someone pushed him back off the edge of one of his shitty skyscrapers
― Is he an evil man who makes chocolate or is the chocolate itself evil? (stevie), Wednesday, 3 April 2024 13:15 (two weeks ago) link
^^"Russian Mob, are you listening?"
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 3 April 2024 13:35 (two weeks ago) link
a sharp rebuke!
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2024/04/03/trump-documents-case-cannon-jack-smith/
― scott seward, Wednesday, 3 April 2024 13:36 (two weeks ago) link
i was being kind of tongue-in-cheek about repeatedly joking/suggesting that trump would have no trouble paying the bonds because there's almost a limitless number of incredibly evil billionaires who want a president to owe them a favor. but...i just want to confirm - trump's bond was paid by some rich subprime auto loan guy who pretty much no one had ever heard of until this week, right?
i do compartmentalize my optimism and pessimism these days, and i am very optimistic about my life and what i'm doing. but all that pessimism has to go somewhere and yeah i don't think trump will ever suffer any sort of significant consequence, and neither will any of his dumbass children. he's responsible for hundreds of thousands of people dying that should not have died, and no one will even ask him about that ever again. he doesn't have to think about it.
since i'm doing classic pre-coffee i'm angry at trump rant, i'll add that i don't think this will end when he's dead. christian fascism is accelerating and they're not going to go back to how things were because they can't anymore
― z_tbd, Wednesday, 3 April 2024 14:59 (two weeks ago) link
I can't stand that Trump!
― scott seward, Wednesday, 3 April 2024 15:04 (two weeks ago) link
trump's bond was paid by some rich subprime auto loan guy who pretty much no one had ever heard of until this week, right?
It is and the fact that any number of actually-more-flush billionaires didn't -- and that it took a week instead of out of the gate -- is telling enough.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 3 April 2024 15:06 (two weeks ago) link
*sips coffee*
well perhaps this will end when he's dead!
― z_tbd, Wednesday, 3 April 2024 15:07 (two weeks ago) link
xp ned but (and i'm cosplaying a rich person here, i don't know) maybe those more flush billionaires didn't post his bond because they knew that some lower-tier billionaire like the subprime auto loans guy would do it for them?
― z_tbd, Wednesday, 3 April 2024 15:10 (two weeks ago) link
― I painted my teeth (sleeve), Wednesday, 3 April 2024 15:12 (two weeks ago) link
xpost Which also says something. "Hmm, a guy who sues and stiffs just about everyone to avoid having to actually pay anything if he has to. Yeahhhhhh I'll let someone else be that stupid patsy." (Remember, if the appeals process changing nothing, this subprime dude coughs up, and if Trump tries to get out of making him whole from there...well, that'll be deeply hilarious.)
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 3 April 2024 15:13 (two weeks ago) link
most billionaires prob like trump less than say biden or some more normal politician because hes unstable and doesnt really care about their carefully constructed system, he had to find a billionaire whos specifically into trump type stuff
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 3 April 2024 15:16 (two weeks ago) link
I would actually very much agree!
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 3 April 2024 15:17 (two weeks ago) link
wall st guys dont want someone who might cut off arms donations to ukraine pumping money into the defense industry is a core practice of the economy, some auto loan guy tho does he care he prob should but hes just into trump stuff he likes it
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 3 April 2024 15:20 (two weeks ago) link
Mike Lindell has got to feel *red faced* here.
― nashwan, Wednesday, 3 April 2024 15:21 (two weeks ago) link
The authoritarian/christian nationalist/proto-fascist wot have you movement won’t go away when Trump dies but it really galvanized around him in a way that will be hard to replicate. (Pre -existing celebrity, reputation as “successful” businessman,etc). Everyone else in those movements are charisma vacuums or too weird.
― Slorg is not on the Slerf Team, you idiot, you moron (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 3 April 2024 15:23 (two weeks ago) link
I'm glad y'all mentioned it. From today's NYT:
Mr. Biden has also brought to office an economic philosophy that relies heavily on federal government intervention in private markets. That includes investments in infrastructure and industries, which business leaders generally support.
But it also includes environmental, financial and other regulations meant to reduce risks in the marketplace. Businesses oppose those efforts, along with the administration’s aggressive antitrust enforcement and other initiatives meant to stimulate competition.
As a result, Mr. Biden’s relationship with corporate America “is a complicated one,” said Neil Bradley, the executive vice president and chief policy officer at the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, a large business lobbying group in Washington.
Mr. Biden and his economic team have been open and thorough in their outreach to business groups, Mr. Bradley said, but frustrating in their policy choices. Chamber officials calculate that federal agencies under Mr. Biden have issued about twice as many regulations considered “economically significant” — currently defined as carrying at least a $200 million annual effect on the economy — as they did under President Donald J. Trump.
It is a contrast with Mr. Trump, whose administration employed less consistent outreach and careened chaotically from crisis to crisis, business leaders say. Mr. Bradley said executives were torn on which combination they preferred.
“You can look at a Trump administration with a lot more uncertainty, but directionally, the regulatory effort was moving to lighten the regulatory costs,” he said. “Here in the Biden administration, we have a pretty good idea where they’re going to go — it’s just how crushing is it going to be in terms of the regulatory level? And so, interestingly, there’s a lot of people saying, ‘The chaos is better.’”
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 3 April 2024 15:24 (two weeks ago) link
the administration’s aggressive antitrust enforcement
haaa (i dont doubt corporations believe it they are very sensitive)
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 3 April 2024 15:30 (two weeks ago) link
Hey they’ve stopped a couple potential mergers, Spirit and Jet Blue for one.
― Slorg is not on the Slerf Team, you idiot, you moron (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 3 April 2024 15:30 (two weeks ago) link
Spirit-Jeb Blue?
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 3 April 2024 15:31 (two weeks ago) link
ha, jinx
yeah i guess doing anything at all does qualify as aggressive these days
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 3 April 2024 15:32 (two weeks ago) link
And so, interestingly, there’s a lot of people saying, ‘The chaos is better.’”
"interestingly" -- fuck you
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 3 April 2024 15:34 (two weeks ago) link
Jeb I’m sure is blue
― Slorg is not on the Slerf Team, you idiot, you moron (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 3 April 2024 15:34 (two weeks ago) link
Compared to even the Obama administration Biden’s is practically Teddy Roosevelt reincarnated.
― Slorg is not on the Slerf Team, you idiot, you moron (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 3 April 2024 15:36 (two weeks ago) link
reading the tea leaves of quotes from one lobbyist saying we might actually like the chaos better is an indication that they do not in fact like the chaos, which also stands to reason as chaos is by nature bad for established entities
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 3 April 2024 15:36 (two weeks ago) link
Yeah, if chaos were good it would not be chaos.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 3 April 2024 15:48 (two weeks ago) link
I hear it's a ladder
― President Keyes, Wednesday, 3 April 2024 15:50 (two weeks ago) link
there could be a situation where the level of regulation was so high under biden that it was actually worse for big biz than the chaos and low regulation of trump, but obvs were not nearly there, however its important consider that corporate executives are huge babies who are likely to throw a tantrum if anyone tells them they cant do exactly what they want all the time
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 3 April 2024 15:53 (two weeks ago) link
It's always wild to me that you can just call yourself the US Chamber of Commerce.
― Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 3 April 2024 16:03 (two weeks ago) link
Chaos is good and fine, there’s this little thing called the invisible hand
― brimstead, Wednesday, 3 April 2024 16:03 (two weeks ago) link
i'm always fruitlessly searching for polls that ask people if they think the US Chamber of Commerce is a government entity. it must be at least 33%
― z_tbd, Wednesday, 3 April 2024 16:10 (two weeks ago) link
US Chamber of Commerce is the name of my dog
― CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 3 April 2024 16:28 (two weeks ago) link
"And I know you hate me, and you got the right to kill me nowAnd I wouldn't blame you if you doBut you ought to thank me, before I dieFor the gravel in ya gut and the spit in ya eye'Cause I'm the son of a bitch that named you the US Chamber of Commerce."
― President Keyes, Wednesday, 3 April 2024 16:32 (two weeks ago) link
if chaos were good it would not be chaos.
Don't we have chaotic good / chaotic neutral / chaotic evil in our cosmology here? I thought we were supposed to be nerds.
― alpaca lips now (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 3 April 2024 22:56 (two weeks ago) link
U.S. Chamber at the controls
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E3GBoXTVgAYee97.jpg
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 4 April 2024 00:03 (two weeks ago) link
Radios appear
― CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Thursday, 4 April 2024 00:12 (two weeks ago) link
Whoopsie:
When former President Donald Trump posted a $175 million bond in New York on Monday, it appeared that he had evaded a financial crisis. He had paused enforcement of the more than $460 million judgment against him following a civil fraud trial, while his appeal is pending. But the surety bond was missing vital information typically included in those filings, experts say. These standard elements include documents related to power of attorney for the bond provider, Knight Specialty Insurance Company, a financial statement from the company and a certificate of solvency from the Department of Financial Services....On Wednesday, the New York Supreme Court clerk's office returned to Trump's attorneys the bond filing "for correction." There was no reason publicly specified in the request for correction.Adam Pollock, a former assistant attorney general in New York, said, "This bond is deficient for a number of reasons." "Including that the company doesn't appear to be licensed in New York and doesn't appear to have enough capital to make this undertaking," Pollock said."....Knight's compliance officer, Mike Pepitone, said that there are a number of insurance companies that do not hold a license in every state, but a company is able to write a bond in other states where they are not licensed on what he said is called "an excess and surplus lines basis.""For court bonds, as regulated by the CPLR, the law is clear about in-state license requirement," said Pollock, who noted that there are surety bonds used in other industries like construction that would not be subject to that rule.Shah initially said that the company had in fact submitted a financial statement with the bond. However, during a conversation the following day, Pepitone said the financial statement was not supposed to be a part of the filing and was "not willing" to share it with CBS.
But the surety bond was missing vital information typically included in those filings, experts say. These standard elements include documents related to power of attorney for the bond provider, Knight Specialty Insurance Company, a financial statement from the company and a certificate of solvency from the Department of Financial Services....
On Wednesday, the New York Supreme Court clerk's office returned to Trump's attorneys the bond filing "for correction." There was no reason publicly specified in the request for correction.
Adam Pollock, a former assistant attorney general in New York, said, "This bond is deficient for a number of reasons."
"Including that the company doesn't appear to be licensed in New York and doesn't appear to have enough capital to make this undertaking," Pollock said."....
Knight's compliance officer, Mike Pepitone, said that there are a number of insurance companies that do not hold a license in every state, but a company is able to write a bond in other states where they are not licensed on what he said is called "an excess and surplus lines basis."
"For court bonds, as regulated by the CPLR, the law is clear about in-state license requirement," said Pollock, who noted that there are surety bonds used in other industries like construction that would not be subject to that rule.
Shah initially said that the company had in fact submitted a financial statement with the bond. However, during a conversation the following day, Pepitone said the financial statement was not supposed to be a part of the filing and was "not willing" to share it with CBS.
The whole thing is very amusing and if the NY Supreme Court is already going "Yeah, about that," well well.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 4 April 2024 15:38 (two weeks ago) link
😬
― Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 4 April 2024 15:40 (two weeks ago) link
The company also does not appear to meet a restriction under New York insurance law barring companies from putting more than 10% of their capital at risky.
why do plain ol’ typos make me lol
― epistantophus, Thursday, 4 April 2024 15:47 (two weeks ago) link
― citation needed (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 4 April 2024 15:56 (two weeks ago) link
the little known king of subprime car loans going out of business cause he made trump a loan which he immediately defaulted on would be another perfect trump story
― lag∞n, Thursday, 4 April 2024 16:12 (two weeks ago) link
Really would!
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 4 April 2024 16:22 (two weeks ago) link
the court is asking for a correction. when the correction is made that will be the end of it. all the quotes are from people not involved in the case.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 4 April 2024 16:25 (two weeks ago) link
Yay oh wait. (I recall something similar happened with the Carroll bond, like the initial paperwork was not so great.) Still, those Knight guys quoted are involved in the case to a degree, surely. :-D
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 4 April 2024 16:31 (two weeks ago) link
― I painted my teeth (sleeve), Thursday, 4 April 2024 16:34 (two weeks ago) link
I just looked at CPLR Section 2502 and the relevant language is the bond must be issued by "an insurance company authorized to execute the undertaking within the state". That language seems to directly contradict the bond company's argument that they can write the bond on an excess and surplus lines basis (i.e. without the license).
Whenever I have to get bonds for employees or our companies, the bond has a page which contains a little balance sheet showing the bond company's assets and liabilities.
― il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Thursday, 4 April 2024 16:36 (two weeks ago) link
whats going on here seems weird
Hankey said that Trump used "cash" as collateral for the bond, a total of $175 million.
"First he furnished about $120 million worth of bonds that we OK'd, so we assumed it would be investment-grade bonds and cash. But as it turned out, it was all cash," he told CBS News in a brief phone call on Tuesday.
But Trump retained that $175 million cash collateral, according to Shah. He said the money is in an account that is "pledged" to the company. He would not specify the type of account. Trump paid a premium to the company that Shah declined to disclose.
― lag∞n, Thursday, 4 April 2024 16:38 (two weeks ago) link
https://media.istockphoto.com/id/177105352/photo/shell-game.jpg?s=612x612&w=0&k=20&c=xvjFTl_yP_NVTIXzAWoizUy9TOrZS3eJlBy2Kj93UKI=
― I painted my teeth (sleeve), Thursday, 4 April 2024 16:40 (two weeks ago) link
It should be obvious that Trump will keep trying to pull a fast one to give the appearance of compliance without any substance behind it, because he understands that compliance would be very painful and difficult and he's used to easily sidestepping such obligations by throwing up a smokescreen of lies and half-truth. At the very least, he can keep this up long enough to delay the resolution of his appeal and seizure of his assets, so he has nothing to lose by doing this shit. iow, typical Trump maneuvering.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 4 April 2024 16:45 (two weeks ago) link
CPLR 2502 (a) permits only two types of sureties: "1. an insurance company authorized to execute the undertaking within the state" or an individual. Without doubt, even though the bonds here may be valid and binding and insure against the risk specified, Athens is not "authorized to execute [the bonds] * * * within the state". Therefore, as plaintiff contends, the bonds at issue here are invalid.New York City v. Britestarr Homes, 150 Misc. 2d 820, 827 (N.Y. Sup. Ct. 1991)
New York City v. Britestarr Homes, 150 Misc. 2d 820, 827 (N.Y. Sup. Ct. 1991)
― il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Thursday, 4 April 2024 16:49 (two weeks ago) link
believe it when i see it
https://bsky.app/profile/toobigtofail.bsky.social/post/3kpd2judhsl2n
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 4 April 2024 16:55 (two weeks ago) link
yeah it seems super fishy
― a (waterface), Thursday, 4 April 2024 16:57 (two weeks ago) link
caek (or ?), could you c/p the content from the bsky ?
― citation needed (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 4 April 2024 17:00 (two weeks ago) link
Sign in required
― Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Thursday, 4 April 2024 17:00 (two weeks ago) link
"Here's the appellate docket on Trump's case (this is only viewable by NY lawyers so I can't link to this docket); unless a docket number 1708, motion for emergency relief to accept a deficient bond, pops up... uh, sooner than later... James can start collecting at 12:01 a.m."
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 4 April 2024 17:00 (two weeks ago) link
doesn't trump have that court-appointed monitor for all his financial dealings now? wouldn't that include bond stuff? making sure that he was on the up and up.
― scott seward, Thursday, 4 April 2024 17:05 (two weeks ago) link
that Too Big to Fail poster on bsky is citing statues so i would trust them
― a (waterface), Thursday, 4 April 2024 17:09 (two weeks ago) link
meanwhile in Fulton County, Trump's motion to dismiss on 1st amendment grounds has been denied
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Thursday, 4 April 2024 17:11 (two weeks ago) link
What a surprise.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 4 April 2024 17:46 (two weeks ago) link
Looks like AG James has filed an objection to the bond!
https://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/nyscef/ViewDocument?docIndex=s4dpZ_PLUS_u0rxLM_PLUS_xsccBGwbw==
Dunno, caek, seems like something could be up.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 4 April 2024 17:51 (two weeks ago) link
eh maybe. the one thing we know is up is this adds a delay.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 4 April 2024 17:53 (two weeks ago) link
doesn't trump have that court-appointed monitor for all his financial dealings now?
Yes:
Donald Trump's https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-bond-arthur-engoron-new-york-fraud-trail-manhattan-insurance-company-188676875m Bond Rejection Raises Questions
The Trump Organization's court-appointed monitor, Barbara Jones, likely has all the answers, MSNBC legal analyst, Lisa Rubin, wrote on X, formerly Twitter."I can think of a courtroom full of journalists, as well as a bunch of lawyers in the New York Attorney General's office, who would love to know what Barbara Jones presumably knows right now," Rubin said.
"I can think of a courtroom full of journalists, as well as a bunch of lawyers in the New York Attorney General's office, who would love to know what Barbara Jones presumably knows right now," Rubin said.
― Kim Kimberly, Thursday, 4 April 2024 17:57 (two weeks ago) link
Correct link
― Kim Kimberly, Thursday, 4 April 2024 17:58 (two weeks ago) link
From Bluesky:
Ok, let's dig in to this bond issue on the Trump appeal to see whether Tish James might actually, finally, be able to start siezing assets tomorrow. I have no idea if this link will work, but this is the copy of the bond on file with the First Department.
PDF of the bond
For some background on the operative statutes:CPLR § 5519 allows for stay of enforcement of a money judgment on appeal when "and an undertaking in that sum is given."CPLR § 2501 defines "undertaking" as an: "obligation... which contains a covenant by a surety to pay the required amount."CPLR § 2502 defines "surety" as: "1. an insurance company authorized to execute the undertaking within the state, or 2. a natural person... who shall execute with the undertaking his affidavit setting forth... that he is domiciled within the state and worth at least the amount specified"None of the people helping Trump with his bond are New York domiciliaries, and none of them are pledging their own individual money, so (2) is out the window, leaving (1). Now, Knight Insurance Company is not "an insurance company authorized to execute the undertaking within the state," for startersTaking the bond at face value, Knight has on hand surplus cash assets of $138,441,671... notably, less than the $175 million that they issued the bond for. Meaning that they can't actually pay the bond if Trump loses, meaning that even if a court were inclined to accept the deficient bond, it can't.Knight is claiming that it's authorized to issue the bond as a surplus lines insurer. Surplus lines insurance can be sold by unlicensed, foreign insurers in New York... but, notably, it does not comply with CPLR § 2502's requirements, so whether Knight can sell surplus lines is irrelevant.Additionally, the language in the bond is completely wrong. Knight claims to "undertake" that if the judgment is upheld in whole or in part, Defendants will pay $175,000,000 to the State of New York. That's not how it works - Knight has to guarantee that ~it~ will pay that amount.In short - none of this works; the bond is defective; the attempt to cure it today was defective; and Trump has not as yet filed any kind of emergency motion with the First Department to accept the bond... which he has another 11 1/2 hours to do before Tish James can start collecting.
CPLR § 2502 defines "surety" as: "1. an insurance company authorized to execute the undertaking within the state, or 2. a natural person... who shall execute with the undertaking his affidavit setting forth... that he is domiciled within the state and worth at least the amount specified"
None of the people helping Trump with his bond are New York domiciliaries, and none of them are pledging their own individual money, so (2) is out the window, leaving (1). Now, Knight Insurance Company is not "an insurance company authorized to execute the undertaking within the state," for starters
Taking the bond at face value, Knight has on hand surplus cash assets of $138,441,671... notably, less than the $175 million that they issued the bond for. Meaning that they can't actually pay the bond if Trump loses, meaning that even if a court were inclined to accept the deficient bond, it can't.
Knight is claiming that it's authorized to issue the bond as a surplus lines insurer. Surplus lines insurance can be sold by unlicensed, foreign insurers in New York... but, notably, it does not comply with CPLR § 2502's requirements, so whether Knight can sell surplus lines is irrelevant.
Additionally, the language in the bond is completely wrong. Knight claims to "undertake" that if the judgment is upheld in whole or in part, Defendants will pay $175,000,000 to the State of New York. That's not how it works - Knight has to guarantee that ~it~ will pay that amount.
In short - none of this works; the bond is defective; the attempt to cure it today was defective; and Trump has not as yet filed any kind of emergency motion with the First Department to accept the bond... which he has another 11 1/2 hours to do before Tish James can start collecting.
― Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Thursday, 4 April 2024 20:02 (two weeks ago) link
Additionally, the language in the bond is completely wrong. Knight claims to "undertake" that if the judgment is upheld in whole or in part, Defendants will pay $175,000,000 to the State of New York. That's not how it works - Knight has to guarantee that ~it~ will pay that amount
lol what is this whole thing just fake
― lag∞n, Thursday, 4 April 2024 20:05 (two weeks ago) link
can we just seize a few assets, as a treat?
I will personally paypal Ned $5 if there are any actual IRL consequences in the next 7 days.
― I painted my teeth (sleeve), Thursday, 4 April 2024 20:08 (two weeks ago) link
Hell I have no idea either way. I'm just here for the documentation.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 4 April 2024 20:09 (two weeks ago) link
it's definitely a delay tactic, but it does not seem very successful
― I painted my teeth (sleeve), Thursday, 4 April 2024 20:10 (two weeks ago) link
Don't worry, Jared should arrive from Dubai any minute with a trunk full of cash.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 4 April 2024 20:12 (two weeks ago) link
She has given them 10 days to fix things, per her objection posted above by Ned. (As i understand it?)
― Kim Kimberly, Thursday, 4 April 2024 20:13 (two weeks ago) link
What? Trump posted something fraudulent?
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 4 April 2024 20:14 (two weeks ago) link
xpost Apparently that's standard enough. (Though I am amused that this almost runs the clock now to his Manhattan criminal case, so we're Groundhog Daying this whole thing.)
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 4 April 2024 20:15 (two weeks ago) link
Roffle, THIS'll be funny.
In Trump's civil fraud case, Justice Engoron schedules a hearing later this month on the sufficiency of the surety bond. pic.twitter.com/yLBAKyele3— Adam Klasfeld (@KlasfeldReports) April 4, 2024
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 4 April 2024 20:24 (two weeks ago) link
A week after the criminal case starts so I'm sure Trump'll be in a happy mood.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 4 April 2024 20:25 (two weeks ago) link
OK, I extend my generous bet to include any IRL consequences within the month of April
― I painted my teeth (sleeve), Thursday, 4 April 2024 20:34 (two weeks ago) link
actually it's not a bet b/c u have zero obligation, but you get the idea
― I painted my teeth (sleeve), Thursday, 4 April 2024 20:35 (two weeks ago) link
Time will tell!
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 4 April 2024 20:36 (two weeks ago) link
Trump apparently misunderstood what "word is bond" means
― CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Thursday, 4 April 2024 20:43 (two weeks ago) link
Also per the comment above re what Barbara Jones might have access to as the Trump Org monitor, James just filed this with Engoron; per a Bluesky summary:
NY AG Letitia James wants the independent monitor to investigate whether Trump et al. “withheld relevant and responsive” information from prosecutors during the civil-fraud case
Maybe nothing will turn up. Buuuuut.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 4 April 2024 20:47 (two weeks ago) link
A lot of it has to do with Weisselberg and his own recent guilty plea, which is fun. But also this, which strikes me as technical though helpful in terms of 'hey if we need any info we'd like to be able to get it, very clearly':
On behalf of the Office of the Attorney General (“OAG”), we write regarding the Monitorship Order entered March 21, 2024 (NYSCEF No. 1706). Specifically, we write to ask for two modifications to the Monitorship Order: first, we ask that the Monitorship Order be amended to explicitly authorize the Monitor to share information, ex parte, with any party; and second, we ask that the Monitor be directed to investigate certain issues surrounding the recent perjury plea by defendant Allen Weisselberg. On the first issue, explicit authorization to share information on an ex parte basis, this would merely conform the post-trial Monitorship Order to the pre-trial Supplemental Monitorship Order entered on November 17, 2023 (NYSCEF No. 194). That earlier order provided that “The Monitor is authorized to engage in ex parte communications with the Court and any party.” Id. at 2. While the Monitorship Order does not preclude such communications, we believe that out of an abundance of caution, the provision should be added.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 4 April 2024 20:50 (two weeks ago) link
this is starting to make me a little dizzy...
― scott seward, Thursday, 4 April 2024 20:53 (two weeks ago) link
It would seem weird to hire a third party observer to keep an eye on Trump's secret tomfoolery and allow her to further keep those secrets.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 4 April 2024 20:59 (two weeks ago) link
we can't question the Wallwatchers though #onethread
― I painted my teeth (sleeve), Thursday, 4 April 2024 21:00 (two weeks ago) link
Who watches the wallwatcher men?
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 4 April 2024 21:04 (two weeks ago) link
>>It would seem weird to hire a third party observer to keep an eye on >>Trump's secret tomfoolery and allow her to further keep those secrets.
Yr not wrong but our Big Boy's whole thing is doing stuff in dark alleys if the 3rd Party Observer literally didn't see it because the money is coming in envelopes by underground courier systems then... moar crimes i guess!
― Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Friday, 5 April 2024 01:57 (two weeks ago) link
There it is:Rep Gerry Connolly (D-VA), Rep Jared Moskowitz (D-FL) introduce bill to change the name of the federal prison in Miami, Florida to the Donald J. Trump Federal Correctional InstitutionDays after House GOP members offered bill to rename Dulles Airport for Trump— Scott MacFarlane (@MacFarlaneNews) April 5, 2024
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 5 April 2024 18:06 (two weeks ago) link
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 5 April 2024 18:14 (two weeks ago) link
If assholes could fly this place would be Trump International Airport
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 5 April 2024 18:35 (two weeks ago) link
Nobody deserves a TIA more than he.
― nashwan, Friday, 5 April 2024 18:38 (two weeks ago) link
i am so happy his stock is tanking. it's giving me hope
― a (waterface), Friday, 5 April 2024 18:38 (two weeks ago) link
dang a little too much hope sorry
We need that much hope though
― Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 5 April 2024 18:56 (two weeks ago) link
yes that's a good amount of hope tbh
― Is he an evil man who makes chocolate or is the chocolate itself evil? (stevie), Friday, 5 April 2024 19:08 (two weeks ago) link
3 hopes
― lag∞n, Friday, 5 April 2024 19:09 (two weeks ago) link
minimum
― I painted my teeth (sleeve), Friday, 5 April 2024 19:10 (two weeks ago) link
Trump gave us all hoerpes.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 5 April 2024 19:13 (two weeks ago) link
hopey changey
― lag∞n, Friday, 5 April 2024 19:16 (two weeks ago) link
hopey changey diapies
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 5 April 2024 19:21 (two weeks ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZIQKn2Adfk
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 5 April 2024 19:23 (two weeks ago) link
I still believe in a place called Hope. It's in Arkansas.
― President Keyes, Friday, 5 April 2024 19:24 (two weeks ago) link
A stellar financial mind:
Don Hankey, the billionaire businessman whose company Knight Specialty Insurance provided the $175 million bond that Donald Trump posted in his New York civil fraud case, told Reuters that the fee his firm charged the former U.S. President was low. Hankey, who backed Trump as a presidential candidate in 2016 and has said he supports his re-election, has maintained that providing the bond was a business decision. He declined to disclose the fee, but said it was low because Knight did not think there was much risk involved...."We thought it would be an easy procedure that wouldn't involve other legal problems and it's not turning out that way. We probably didn't charge enough," Hankey said in an interview....Hankey, who runs a group of businesses including a provider of subprime automotive loans that has been reprimanded by regulators for predatory behaviour involving customers, said Trump offered collateral for the $175 million in cash. He said the cash is held at a brokerage firm and pledged to Knight, and that Knight can access it if needed. "I don't know if it came from Donald Trump or from Donald Trump and supporters," Hankey said of the cash Trump provided for collateral.
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 6 April 2024 17:56 (two weeks ago) link
“I mean, whatever, I was just doing a favor, I’m a guy who does favors. You never know when you’ll need a favor, right? Wait, is this guy in serious trouble or something”
― Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Saturday, 6 April 2024 18:03 (two weeks ago) link
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2024/04/02/investing/trump-bond-firm
“Ultimately, he put up all cash,” Hankey said, adding that he does not know where the $175 million in cash that Trump posted came from.
Hankey says the collateral was the full bond amount in cash... so why does Trump even need the middleman?
― Kim Kimberly, Saturday, 6 April 2024 18:27 (two weeks ago) link
To hide the source of the money, is the only thing I can think of.
― Ippei's on a bummer now (WmC), Saturday, 6 April 2024 18:34 (two weeks ago) link
It's Monopoly money
― CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Saturday, 6 April 2024 18:37 (two weeks ago) link
something weird going on there for sure
― lag∞n, Saturday, 6 April 2024 18:47 (two weeks ago) link
Russian hookers peed on it.
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 6 April 2024 18:47 (two weeks ago) link
― Slorg is not on the Slerf Team, you idiot, you moron (Boring, Maryland), Saturday, 6 April 2024 19:20 (two weeks ago) link
Well, by this time next year Mr. Hankey will either be on trial or Secretary of Gender Enforcement
― Slorg is not on the Slerf Team, you idiot, you moron (Boring, Maryland), Saturday, 6 April 2024 19:21 (two weeks ago) link
hide the source of the money, hide the fact that theres not actually money, a scam on hankey, a bs stalling tactic until he can get an actual bond
― lag∞n, Saturday, 6 April 2024 19:24 (two weeks ago) link
“Mr. Hankey”
― Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Saturday, 6 April 2024 19:28 (two weeks ago) link
At least we now have some
https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/61PzcpRrqaL._UF1000,1000_QL80_.jpg
or do we?
― if i just keep writing a plot will emerge by itself (Matt #2), Saturday, 6 April 2024 19:30 (two weeks ago) link
trump is on time out
― lag∞n, Saturday, 6 April 2024 19:30 (two weeks ago) link
case will be settled on the naughty steps of the courthouse
― close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Saturday, 6 April 2024 19:36 (two weeks ago) link
Howdy ho
― CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Saturday, 6 April 2024 19:55 (two weeks ago) link
The punishment will be the judge says a mean thing about his lawyers. Possibly even in writing.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 6 April 2024 21:14 (two weeks ago) link
a stern rebuke!
― I painted my teeth (sleeve), Saturday, 6 April 2024 21:14 (two weeks ago) link
“He went to get the hanging judge, but the hanging judge was drunk.”
― The Artist formerly known as Earlnash, Saturday, 6 April 2024 21:30 (two weeks ago) link
I know! we'll SUE THE JUDGE, what can go wrong?
Donald Trump will sue the judge overseeing his hush money trial, which is over allegations that Trump forged financial records in an attempt to cover up a sex scandal, the New York Times first reported.
The latest lawsuit from Trump is a last-minute attempt to delay the trial, which is set to begin 15 April in New York City.
According to the Times, Trump’s legal team has now filed an action against Judge Juan Merchan, though the lawsuit itself is not public.
― Andy the Grasshopper, Monday, 8 April 2024 19:10 (one week ago) link
this is going all the way to the Ice Cream Court
― CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Monday, 8 April 2024 19:12 (one week ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wInNjr_9D28
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 8 April 2024 19:17 (one week ago) link
fuck that's a harsh toke
― Andy the Grasshopper, Monday, 8 April 2024 19:19 (one week ago) link
"Donald Trump did this" is a slogan that can appear in a whole bunch of ads on a whole bunch of issues between now and November. I hope it does.
― Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Monday, 8 April 2024 19:20 (one week ago) link
The pro-Biden ads can’t go hard enough this cycle.
― Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 8 April 2024 19:21 (one week ago) link
Trump is wriggling out of calling for a nationwide ban now, now it's a 'states rights' issue
― Andy the Grasshopper, Monday, 8 April 2024 19:25 (one week ago) link
he knows it's a political loser
Remember when we were supposed to give a shit that Biden didn't say the word "abortion" in the State of the Union speech?
― Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Monday, 8 April 2024 19:26 (one week ago) link
He's still got the touch
...at the Saturday event in Palm Beach, Trump told his audience: “These are people coming in from prisons and jails. They’re coming in from just unbelievable places and countries, countries that are a disaster.
“And when I said, you know, ‘Why can’t we allow people to come in from nice countries,’ I’m trying to be nice. Nice countries, you know like Denmark, Switzerland? Do we have any people coming in from Denmark? How about Switzerland? How about Norway?”
The millionaires in the crowd “chuckled”, the Times said.
― Andy the Grasshopper, Monday, 8 April 2024 19:30 (one week ago) link
I believe his dumbass desperate statement literally says this.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 8 April 2024 19:34 (one week ago) link
Pence is feeling himself these days
https://www.politico.com/news/2024/04/08/trump-abortion-pence-00151080
― Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 8 April 2024 19:36 (one week ago) link
Pence is feeling himself
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 8 April 2024 19:38 (one week ago) link
The media will definitely be a “Trump is a moderate on abortion” never mind the fact there is a whole gaggle of people behind him who will try to ban it first thing. It doesn’t matter what Trump “personally” “thinks” the maniacs behind him will ensure he does what they want.
― Slorg is not on the Slerf Team, you idiot, you moron (Boring, Maryland), Monday, 8 April 2024 19:39 (one week ago) link
abortion is a huge election winner for dems right now, not hard to see how it could hand trump a loss, which is nice for national dems who did nothing to protect it talked about safe legal and rare and in fact wouldnt even say the word, sometimes its good to be the lesser of two evils
― lag∞n, Monday, 8 April 2024 20:08 (one week ago) link
I've already gotten two fundraising emails/texts since the Trump "news."
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 8 April 2024 20:09 (one week ago) link
and it should be noted are still doing nothing, state level people passing constitutional amendments thats whats up xp self
― lag∞n, Monday, 8 April 2024 20:10 (one week ago) link
betting markets and polls shifting slightly to Biden in the last week.
― CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Monday, 8 April 2024 20:15 (one week ago) link
An Emerson College poll of 1,438 registered voters, conducted from April 2 to 3, put Trump at 43 percent against 42 percent for Biden and 8 percent for independent candidate Robert F. Kennedy Jr. In a straight head-to-head with all other candidates and undecided voters removed, the Republican challenger had 51 percent of the vote against 49 percent for the Democratic incumbent. However, among very likely voters, Biden is ahead 51 to 49, said Spencer Kimball, executive director of Emerson College Polling.
A YouGov survey, conducted for The Economist, had Trump and Biden tied at 43 percent each with Kennedy Jr. third at 2 percent. This survey of 1,601 registered voters took place between March 30 and April 2.
still way too close
― President Keyes, Monday, 8 April 2024 20:17 (one week ago) link
if theres any bright side to the whole fucked situation of roe getting axed its that it might teach dems to talk about abortion as healthcare instead of choice, and maybe healthcare as a right idk
― lag∞n, Monday, 8 April 2024 20:19 (one week ago) link
likely as opposed to very likely
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 8 April 2024 20:20 (one week ago) link
I remember this 2021 bill
(1) Abortion services are essential to health care and access to those services is central to people’s ability to participate equally in the economic and social life of the United States. Abortion access allows people who are pregnant to make their own decisions about their pregnancies, their families, and their lives.
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 8 April 2024 20:23 (one week ago) link
this is a weird cycle its a rematch with no meaningful primaries, feels like it hasnt started yet when usually wed be deep in "election season"
― lag∞n, Monday, 8 April 2024 20:24 (one week ago) link
if democrats do indeed harvest children's blood & adrenochrome, we need to get Joe on a daily IV
― Andy the Grasshopper, Monday, 8 April 2024 20:24 (one week ago) link
they could at least give him some adderall
― lag∞n, Monday, 8 April 2024 20:25 (one week ago) link
The two candidates have both served as President, and have been in public life for 40+ years. Nobody is going to be able to "introduce" themselves at the conventions. The only thing that hasn't happened yet is Trump's veep choice. There may not even be debates.
― President Keyes, Monday, 8 April 2024 20:28 (one week ago) link
There may not even be debates.
I would literally rather see each of them cut WWE-style promos directly insulting the other.
― Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Monday, 8 April 2024 20:30 (one week ago) link
I've assumed since 2021 when I knew it'd be a Biden-Trump rematch that we'd have no debates.
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 8 April 2024 20:35 (one week ago) link
Can't top it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vU0fx8d2FiY
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 8 April 2024 20:39 (one week ago) link
ha ha I forgot the "Keep yappin' man" with the hand gesture
― President Keyes, Monday, 8 April 2024 20:44 (one week ago) link
prob the first time anyone ever told Trump to shut up who wasn't Marla Maples
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 8 April 2024 20:46 (one week ago) link
Biden found the secret sauce how to deal with T: just make wanking gestures
― Slorg is not on the Slerf Team, you idiot, you moron (Boring, Maryland), Monday, 8 April 2024 20:52 (one week ago) link
Trump’s attorneys for upcoming NY criminal trial: “Exhibit C reflects the flippant and dismissive approach that Rosenberg took in response to the subpoena.”
DA Bragg: You subpoenaed the wrong Jeremy Rosenberg
($15 = witness travel expenses)(via Frank G. Runyeon, Law360)
https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:qrllvid7s54k4hnwtqxwetrf/bafkreibft6g2fpjaeupjch6rjhkt4e7zvupaku4lsa2z6kmabifvim7ioi@jpeg
https://bsky.app/profile/joshuajfriedman.com/post/3kpq7dfrgj223
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 9 April 2024 22:28 (one week ago) link
― CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 9 April 2024 22:34 (one week ago) link
Jeremy Rosenburg Landscaping
― alpaca lips now (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 10 April 2024 00:01 (one week ago) link
what a shitshow
― Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 10 April 2024 00:04 (one week ago) link
holy lol, I am sure Alvin is enjoying this part of things
― Cemetry Gaetz (DJP), Wednesday, 10 April 2024 00:06 (one week ago) link
Hope he bought a 12 pack with the $15
― Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 10 April 2024 00:17 (one week ago) link
The followup joke is even better:
https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:qrllvid7s54k4hnwtqxwetrf/bafkreigahuj5fqjx3iwkghxsfnblnctyccllgwvcigmrku2s33blcphqgq@jpeg
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 10 April 2024 04:02 (one week ago) link
(Side note: 'extend,' you say. We all have our spelling fails but Blanche gives me the impression he might not actually know.)
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 10 April 2024 04:03 (one week ago) link
Was looking at the Sharon Jones wiki, noticed this unusual detail re: her death in November '16:
She suffered a stroke while watching the 2016 United States presidential election results and another the following day. Jones remained alert and lucid during the initial period of her hospital stay, claiming that the news of Donald Trump's victory was responsible for her stroke.
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 13 April 2024 22:38 (one week ago) link
you guys is the supreme court gonna let all the jan 6 people go free? they wouldn't would they? reading about that case gave me the jitters. i don't trust those fools.
― scott seward, Saturday, 13 April 2024 22:49 (one week ago) link
https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2024/04/14/truth-social-investors-faith-trump/These ppl are unbelievable idiots
― tobo73, Sunday, 14 April 2024 21:09 (six days ago) link
https://www.forbes.com/sites/johntobey/2024/04/12/sell-trump-media-stock-djt-nowan-implosion-is-coming/?sh=1b070b8319ef
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Sunday, 14 April 2024 21:18 (six days ago) link
Inject that directly in my veins.
― il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Sunday, 14 April 2024 21:26 (six days ago) link
What a fucking scam - a $58 million loss on $4 million revenue, with millions paid out in executive salaries and bonuses... yet another Trump racket heading for the courts.
― Zelda Zonk, Monday, 15 April 2024 00:44 (five days ago) link
oh man they interviewed Maria's sister Robin for this and her comments are priceless at the end. watch it! my sister-in-law on Trump!
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/interactive/2024/jury-trump-new-york-hush-money-trial/?itid=hp-top-table-main_p001_f007
― scott seward, Monday, 15 April 2024 01:34 (five days ago) link
i love her
― mookieproof, Monday, 15 April 2024 01:40 (five days ago) link
haha this dickhead is in court today
― Andy the Grasshopper, Monday, 15 April 2024 17:39 (five days ago) link
i hate trump. i hope he falls down.
― scott seward, Monday, 15 April 2024 17:54 (five days ago) link
Here’s hoping he at least smacks his head on the table when falling asleep
― Slorg is not on the Slerf Team, you idiot, you moron (Boring, Maryland), Monday, 15 April 2024 18:44 (five days ago) link
smack my bitch down
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 15 April 2024 18:45 (five days ago) link
With Clarence Thomas obviously dead and Trump obviously being in the process of shuffling off, maybe today could be like the assassin the heads of the Five Families only w God doing it
― CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Monday, 15 April 2024 18:51 (five days ago) link
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GLOiC0WWYAEXHOc?format=jpg&name=large
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 15 April 2024 19:21 (five days ago) link
oopsie
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Monday, 15 April 2024 19:39 (five days ago) link
uh oh boss is mad
Press pool report: “After the jurors leave the courtroom, [Trump] stares over at DA Alvin Bragg. Then Trump turns his eyes to the press pool. As he exits, he glares at New York Times reporter Maggie Haberman for several seconds as he walks out.” pic.twitter.com/wMQlSlD1Wt— Anna Bower (@AnnaBower) April 15, 2024
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 15 April 2024 20:06 (five days ago) link
Fake Droolz
― Never fight uphill 'o me, boys! (President Keyes), Monday, 15 April 2024 20:09 (five days ago) link
where is the courtroom artist's rendering of him sleeping
maybe they don't want to have to expand the gag order to cover that person's family
― mookieproof, Monday, 15 April 2024 20:11 (five days ago) link
the fact that Bragg is black must just make Trump's skin boil
― Andy the Grasshopper, Monday, 15 April 2024 20:14 (five days ago) link
What if, randomly, one of the prospective jurors was a still-living OJ Simpson
― Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 15 April 2024 20:30 (five days ago) link
The defense needs to find some of the OJ jurors. They even speak like Trump:
"I've always been very comfortable with my decision and the decision of the 11 other jurors," she said during the interview. "The evidence that was shown that was given to us and we had to consider. And at that point, there was reasonable doubt and it was something that you cannot deny, and that's why the verdict came so quick."
― Never fight uphill 'o me, boys! (President Keyes), Monday, 15 April 2024 20:37 (five days ago) link
if the hamberder doesn't fit, you must acquit
― Andy the Grasshopper, Monday, 15 April 2024 20:40 (five days ago) link
Thanks to Trump I've had "Frankie Sinatra" by the Avalanches in my head all day. "Frankie me boy you don't know, you have the perfect voice to sing calypso"
― henry s, Monday, 15 April 2024 20:45 (five days ago) link
this is a self-made billionaire, whose anti-american persecution is worse than communism. tax cuts!
― reggie (qualmsley), Monday, 15 April 2024 20:46 (five days ago) link
Huh
Robert F Kennedy Jr claims Trump had asked him to be running mate
Robert F Kennedy Jr, the prominent conspiracy theorist and independent presidential candidate, claimed on Monday he had turned down an offer from Donald Trump to be his running mate for the White House.
The assertion followed the launch earlier in the day of a website attacking Kennedy, published by a pro-Trump political action committee called Make America Great Again Inc (Maga Inc).
Accusing Kennedy, 70, of being a “leftist radical”, the vitriolic website attempts to highlight what it says are his extremist liberal positions, including supporting a 70% rate of income tax and pledging he would sign an assault weapons ban.
― Andy the Grasshopper, Monday, 15 April 2024 21:02 (five days ago) link
NY judge Juan Merchan rejects Trump's request to skip attending trial next Thursday to attend Supreme Court hearing on his "presidential immunity" argumentJudge: "Your client is a criminal defendant in New York. He is required to be here. He is not required to be in the Supreme Court. I will see him here next week"
Judge: "Your client is a criminal defendant in New York. He is required to be here. He is not required to be in the Supreme Court. I will see him here next week"
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 15 April 2024 21:04 (five days ago) link
He could be lying, and he could be telling the truth. Either possibility is viable.
― Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 15 April 2024 21:04 (five days ago) link
Xpost RFK JR
― Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 15 April 2024 21:05 (five days ago) link
It would be fun to see both Trump & Kennedy go down on the same plane, but alas it may not happen
― Andy the Grasshopper, Monday, 15 April 2024 21:06 (five days ago) link
real american tax dollars pay for the judge-ship to keep peace and order for not against the mr. trumps of the world. tax cuts!
― reggie (qualmsley), Monday, 15 April 2024 21:07 (five days ago) link
^^^^ gets it
― Slorg is not on the Slerf Team, you idiot, you moron (Boring, Maryland), Monday, 15 April 2024 22:15 (five days ago) link
― Slorg is not on the Slerf Team, you idiot, you moron (Boring, Maryland), Monday, 15 April 2024 22:17 (five days ago) link
re: RJK and Trump, I have a hard time determining which of these two stupid and insane bozos is lying
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Monday, 15 April 2024 23:55 (five days ago) link
It will be interesting to see tomorrow if Trump ups his dosage of uppers in order to stay awake, and starts disassembling furniture in the courtroom.
― Slorg is not on the Slerf Team, you idiot, you moron (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 01:13 (four days ago) link
They can't, obviously, ask prospective jurors how they voted last election or what their political affiliation is. I was thinking of ways you could maybe get around that:
"When you hear someone use 'bigly' in a sentence, do you immediately assume that person's a moron?"
― clemenza, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 02:19 (four days ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/YwoJ2fp.png
million bucks says he doesn't know what school Barron goes to
― frogbs, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 02:19 (four days ago) link
He should convey it to his son exactly like that post, verbatim.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 02:48 (four days ago) link
his writing style is so relentlessly whiny, it's like he can't write a sentence these days without inserting a minimum of one grievances per five words expended. it's getting beyond self-caricature territory and into the realm of psychosis.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 02:58 (four days ago) link
he should keep doing it people love that shit
― frogbs, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 03:01 (four days ago) link
Seems very unfair, doesn’t it?
― Never fight uphill 'o me, boys! (President Keyes), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 03:12 (four days ago) link
also I'm sure once he sees all the coverage and jokes about him falling asleep at the trial he won't shut the fuck up about it, because that's the sort of shit that really bothers him. like he brings up the two-hand water thing and walking down the ramp all the time. also the thing where he thought he was running against Obamna. just one more thing to be really really fucking annoying about
― frogbs, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 04:16 (four days ago) link
I wonder how many of his drongo followers on Truth Social even read through to the end of his tedious, paragraph-break-free blocks of whiny text.
― Is he an evil man who makes chocolate or is the chocolate itself evil? (stevie), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 08:01 (four days ago) link
if his judges are so corrupt, why doesn't he bribe them?
― StanM, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 08:11 (four days ago) link
He can't afford it.
― My God's got no nose... (Tom D.), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 08:13 (four days ago) link
He's improved his comma game.
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 09:49 (four days ago) link
xps Stevie are you Australian? because I can’t think of a more Aussie term than “drongo”
― assert (matttkkkk), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 10:53 (four days ago) link
It has long been in the realm of psychosis
― Chuck_Tatum, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 11:35 (four days ago) link
just taking a moment to fully appreciate how extremely weird this all is, like for the first time in history a former US president is sitting in a criminal trial (with several more criminal trials on the horizon), and it's for paying off a porn star and falsifying a bunch of records to cover it up. he posts these really erratic word salad screeds about it online but falls asleep at the actual trial. and the thing he's complaining so much about is not getting to see his son's high school graduation, a kid he's never actually acknowledged in the past (Barron didn't even live at the White House did he?), who by the way was the one his wife was pregnant with when he was cheating on her. idk the whole thing is just insane, it kinda reminds me of late-period Rome when emperors would name their horses as Senators or whatever
― frogbs, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 14:08 (four days ago) link
ha! no I am Britishes but thanks to a childhood misspent on Neighbours and the Paul Hogan Show I am entirely conversant w/Aussie lingo
― Big Bong Theory (stevie), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 14:13 (four days ago) link
I wonder if Merchan has any leeway in the number of alternate jurors he can seat along with the main twelve. I think the stress of this trial is going to eat jurors alive.
― Ippei's on a bummer now (WmC), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 14:23 (four days ago) link
His tweets have lost the juice since they removed the character limit.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 14:59 (four days ago) link
Absolutely no way he would have won in 2016 if you could write those long boring confusing tweets from 2009-2016.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 15:00 (four days ago) link
Saw a post pointing out that by blabbing a defense in front of the cameras this morning he essentially walks in that defense. It becomes admissible.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 15:29 (four days ago) link
Frogbs OTM
― Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 15:31 (four days ago) link
― I painted my teeth (sleeve), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 15:57 (four days ago) link
he has to sit through a 6 week trial when he really needs to be out there campaigning and it seems like the only time he gets any sleep now is in the courtroom
― frogbs, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 15:59 (four days ago) link
I'm seeing discomfort and inconvenience, but still no actual IRL consequences of any sort whatsoever aside from meaningless fines
― I painted my teeth (sleeve), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 16:00 (four days ago) link
Speak to the judge about accelerating the trial.
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 16:01 (four days ago) link
Look if he’s distracted and perpetually mad that’s a good thing and maybe he’ll stroke out.
― President of the Canadian Council of Bassoonists (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 16:22 (four days ago) link
^^^^
― the body of a spider... (scampering alpaca), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 16:26 (four days ago) link
oh believe me I visualize it daily
― I painted my teeth (sleeve), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 16:28 (four days ago) link
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, April 16, 2024 11:01 AM (twenty-seven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
the longer this goes the worse it's gonna be for him and it seems likely it might be a while because A) they're having a lot of problems finding jurors and B) he's almost certainly gonna violate his gag order
― frogbs, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 16:29 (four days ago) link
So the US jury selection system is a mystery to me, in the UK you just get sent a letter then you have to sit on whatever case you're picked for. What happens if they genuinely can't find twelve good men and true who are able to convince anyone that they're never heard of the fella and will judge him impartially? Move the trial to Puerto Rico or something?
― the scouse that roared (Matt #2), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 16:37 (four days ago) link
is it really true that they are having a hard time? there's a very large pool for this trial and it seems like they are just going through it as expected, lots of people will be excused but they just need to get it down to 12 and maybe backups
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 16:39 (four days ago) link
I am not a lawyer, but I'm pretty sure eventually a judge can just decide to go with what they've got.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 16:44 (four days ago) link
that is, jury selection can't be drawn out indefinitely.
Now: Trump's head slowly dropped, his eyes closed. It jerked back upward. He adjusts himself. Then, his head droops again. He straightens up, leaning back. His head doops for a third time, he shakes his shoulders. Eyes closed still. His head drops. Finally, he pops his eyes open.— Frank G. Runyeon (@frankrunyeon) April 16, 2024
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 16:47 (four days ago) link
Completely understandable for a very old man.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 16:48 (four days ago) link
mine was kind of like that, I was #47 of 50 and got asked much less questions than the first 30 or so did, eventually was placed on it mostly on the principle of "eh, he seems good enough"
not sure if that's gonna happen here though. I do think there are unbiased folks out there who really don't follow the news and just don't vote but they may be hard to find in New York. last I heard they hadn't picked a single juror yet.
― frogbs, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 16:49 (four days ago) link
fwiw I don't blame Trump for falling asleep here, this part of the trial is really boring, it's just the same questions getting asked over and over and over and over again
i fell asleep a long time ago reading this thread so i get it
― he/him hoo-hah (map), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 16:54 (four days ago) link
I think in many trials they narrow down the jury pool with questions like "Do you think you could be impartial in this case?" then once the individual interviews start the defense and prosecution get a certain number of jurors they can dismiss for whatever reason. The judge can also dismiss people for reasons too.
― Never fight uphill 'o me, boys! (President Keyes), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 16:55 (four days ago) link
also according to some smart law folks Trump is actively kneecapping his own defense by publicly stating that he doesn't know who Michael Cohen is, which is gonna make the prosecution's job a lot easier
― frogbs, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 16:56 (four days ago) link
prosecutors urge the judge to hold DJT in contempt of court over his social media posts today: https://www.axios.com/2024/04/16/trump-contempt-new-york-criminal-trial
― StanM, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 16:58 (four days ago) link
Now: Trump's head slowly dropped, his eyes closed. It jerked back upward. He adjusts himself. Then, his head droops again. He straightens up, leaning back. His head doops for a third time, he shakes his shoulders. Eyes closed still. His head drops. Finally, he pops his eyes open.
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/8b/01/f0/8b01f0767bc313cf6c18cb10854bf7f6.gif
― omar little, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 17:07 (four days ago) link
being unable to stay awake is one of the more relatable things he's done
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 17:08 (four days ago) link
I would theorize he's laying the groundwork for some Junior Soprano/Vincent "The Chin" Gigante "I'm just a sad, senile old man, Your Honor — have pity" action, but I think the real truth is they took his Adderall away to keep him from flipping out in court and making things worse, and they haven't calibrated a correct new cocktail of pills for him yet. Give the pit crew another day or two and they'll have him dialed in.
― Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 17:13 (four days ago) link
Yes, peremptory challenges -- a standard feature. This is exactly what happened in the case I was almost seated on last week. (The judge dismissed two alternates first, then the prosecutor dismissed me; at least one other main juror was dismissed too -- ran into him in the hall outside as I was getting ready to leave -- and I suspect there were more.) The official language at least in this situation/court was that we were 'thanked and excused' as opposed to being to told to fuck off out of there or something. (The judge did indicate that it would be polite not to act too unduly happy if we were excused, which I kept in mind.)
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 17:50 (four days ago) link
What happens if they genuinely can't find twelve good men and true who are able to convince anyone that they're never heard of the fella and will judge him impartially?
There are almost 1.7 million people in Manhattan, this won’t happen. It’s only day 2.
― Requiem for a Dream: The Musical! (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 17:51 (four days ago) link
― budo jeru, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 17:59 (four days ago) link
Yes, that too.
― Requiem for a Dream: The Musical! (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 18:02 (four days ago) link
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GLTbnPAXEAA_LVN?format=jpg&name=large
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 18:07 (four days ago) link
love to see it
― Big Bong Theory (stevie), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 18:12 (four days ago) link
*gasp*
you mean it's not that easy to make magic millions?
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 18:15 (four days ago) link
Sad trombone
― Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 18:17 (four days ago) link
It was always blindingly obvious that taking Truth Social public was solely a device to enrich Trump and a small handful of his co-conspirators by soaking a few hundred thousand rubes along with any greedy, but slow-footed speculators who tried to enrich themselves by grabbing onto Trump's coattails. All that talk of a $5B valuation they floated to the public ahead of time was pure hogwash, but it was catnip to the media, so the rubes all got the word. And here we are.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 18:19 (four days ago) link
I wonder if Merchan has any leeway in the number of alternate jurors he can seat along with the main twelve. I think the stress of this trial is going to eat jurors alive.― Ippei's on a bummer now (WmC), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 14:23 (three hours ago) link
― Ippei's on a bummer now (WmC), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 14:23 (three hours ago) link
Yeah, it occurred to me that the people most likely to be selected are those who are the least aware that Trump will happily badmouth them and, if possible, their families to his army of online cronies (how many of these unfortunate souls are gonna wind up getting doxxed). Like, actually being selected as an impartial juror in a Trump trial probably means that you've been living in some sort of bubble for the past eight years minimum and that reality is about to come at you fast.
― Great-Tasting Burger Perceptions (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 18:20 (four days ago) link
I'm honestly surprised that it has held onto as much value as it has for this long, it should be much closer to zero
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 18:20 (four days ago) link
there are some fairly strict restrictions on sharing the identities of the jurors in this trial, I think this judge would take it very seriously if Trump or his team revealed them
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 18:22 (four days ago) link
judge also seems serious about giving Trump some jail time if he's found in contempt, which Trump seems hellbent on doing
― frogbs, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 18:24 (four days ago) link
And Justice Merchan is now scolding Blanche because Trump was muttering. “I won’t tolerate that,” Merchan says, raising his voice. “I will not have any jurors intimidated in this courtroom.” He asks Blanche to speak to Trump, and Blanche quietly responds, "Yes, your honor." He then gives Trump the requested talking-to, and Trump looks furious.
I am delighted, frankly. (Not least because it humiliates both Blanche and Trump.)
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 19:12 (four days ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/bnKFckW.png
https://i.imgur.com/Nw0SEyW.png
too bad Trump's sleeping through all this
― frogbs, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 19:17 (four days ago) link
Yeah I was just thinking about how in a weird way this may be the most directly he's heard in a long while how people actually think about him who aren't slavering/paid devotees.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 19:19 (four days ago) link
What is this “AI” and how did it learn trump is dumb as fuck must be a wise software
― Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 19:20 (four days ago) link
In any event, six jurors have already been seated so any fears that this would be endless can be set aside.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 19:53 (four days ago) link
Any ilxors on the jury?
― Never fight uphill 'o me, boys! (President Keyes), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 19:54 (four days ago) link
Garu G
― CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 19:59 (four days ago) link
apparently they're going to have 6 alternates which seems optimistic
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 20:02 (four days ago) link
Standard, though. Foreperson is an Irish guy and I would love the idea of someone from one of Trump's 'nice' countries for immigrants fucking him over.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 20:02 (four days ago) link
Further re challenges etc from the NYT:
As they work to select the 12 people who will make up the jury panel, each side gets 10 peremptory challenges, which enable them to exclude prospective jurors without providing reasons. So far, Trump's lawyers have used 6 of their challenges and the prosecutors have used 4.
My understanding being that if/when they run out they actually have to provide reasons going forward which the judge can accept or deny, as has happened a couple of times already. So it's not like Blanche can automatically ask for everyone to get canned.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 20:10 (four days ago) link
There should be a rich vein of social media posts dissing Trump that Blanche can mine for grounds for dismissal without using his peremptory challenges.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 20:14 (four days ago) link
he should be on trial for negligent genocide
― reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 20:16 (four days ago) link
1.7 million dead in USA. gotta get down to it!
― reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 20:18 (four days ago) link
what if you knew her and found her dead on the ground?
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/05/trump-obama-coronavirus-pandemic-response
― reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 20:19 (four days ago) link
> Foreperson is an Irish guy
RFK Jr?
― citation needed (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 20:20 (four days ago) link
Mick Mulvaney
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 20:28 (four days ago) link
Conan O'Brien
― Never fight uphill 'o me, boys! (President Keyes), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 20:30 (four days ago) link
BONO
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 20:33 (four days ago) link
Shame-us Finnigan
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 20:47 (four days ago) link
i'll bet its that damn robert e. lee. "never fight uphill, me boys!"
― scott seward, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 20:47 (four days ago) link
i think i will probably be watching this forever.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pq4xSuiueUc
― scott seward, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 20:50 (four days ago) link
did he think Robert E Lee was a leprechaun
― frogbs, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 20:52 (four days ago) link
"Wow, that was a big mistake."
--Robert E. lee
― Never fight uphill 'o me, boys! (President Keyes), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 20:53 (four days ago) link
that crowd is missing the strategically placed black person, they're dropping the ball
― Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 20:55 (four days ago) link
the fact that he was 2 hours from gettysburg will define his legacy...
― scott seward, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 20:56 (four days ago) link
Love the Ethan Suplee-lookin' MF in a baseball cap to Trump's right taking a biiiiiiig yawn at the start
― Big Bong Theory (stevie), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 21:03 (four days ago) link
too intelligent. dismissed!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsz8wF-FAIY
― scott seward, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 21:53 (four days ago) link
i mean i could only hope someone that smart was on my jury. for my sham porn star hush money campaign malfeasance trial. she would see through the government's lies!
― scott seward, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 21:56 (four days ago) link
That was how I got out of jury duty the last time I was called, a couple of years ago. I explained to the judge that I was a freelance journalist who had to be able to pursue individual stories on my own time so I couldn't "take off work" and they let me go. Good thing, too; it was some kind of child sexual abuse trial that was projected to take six to eight weeks, as I recall, and even if I'd been collecting a regular paycheck I wouldn't want to spend two months hearing about that.
― Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 22:01 (four days ago) link
tell em yr a law buff and fuck facts you wanna make sure fellow jurors understand the law as you do they love that.
― schrodingers cat was always cool (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 17 April 2024 01:00 (three days ago) link
here's what's on his mind today
https://i.imgur.com/laiYaVp.png
(the Oscars were over a month ago)
― frogbs, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 14:41 (three days ago) link
That reads like an excerpt from Thomas Bernhard.
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 17 April 2024 14:42 (three days ago) link
hey cut him a break, he finally got around to watching the second half of the show he had on the ol' DVR
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 17 April 2024 14:43 (three days ago) link
hes never more cogent than when critiquing tv
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 14:43 (three days ago) link
I was watching the On Cinema Oscar Special like a normal person but uh didn't Al Pacino announce Best Picture?
― frogbs, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 14:43 (three days ago) link
the once vaunted Academy Awards
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 17 April 2024 14:44 (three days ago) link
lol I never heard a single word about Kimmell flubbing an award announcement. Does the Oscar host actually give out the Best Picture award?
― Never fight uphill 'o me, boys! (President Keyes), Wednesday, 17 April 2024 14:50 (three days ago) link
ha he did just make it up didnt he
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 14:51 (three days ago) link
Or is Trump mistaking Jimmy for Al Pacino?
― Never fight uphill 'o me, boys! (President Keyes), Wednesday, 17 April 2024 14:52 (three days ago) link
“Picture of the Year”
― President of the Canadian Council of Bassoonists (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 17 April 2024 14:53 (three days ago) link
there you go
Pacino, who won an Academy Award for best actor in “Scent of a Woman,” did not list any of this year's 10 nominees for best picture. Instead, he simply opened the envelope and said: “And my eyes see 'Oppenheimer.
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 14:53 (three days ago) link
I do like the idea of him not being able to tell the difference between Kimmel and Pacino though.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 17 April 2024 14:57 (three days ago) link
DON'T READ HIS TRUTH, JIMMY ME BOY, PLEASE DON'T DO THIS.
― henry s, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 14:57 (three days ago) link
I set Trump's Gettysburg speech to music:
https://www.udio.com/songs/krQ3YrdYhXngU34199PipT
― Never fight uphill 'o me, boys! (President Keyes), Wednesday, 17 April 2024 14:59 (three days ago) link
just realized truths are what post are called on truth social
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 14:59 (three days ago) link
Also, Oscar presenters haven't said "And the winner is..." since the 1980s. It's now "And the Oscar goes to..."
― jaymc, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 15:00 (three days ago) link
pacino getting up there and just doing whatever is too funny
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 15:02 (three days ago) link
Tbf to Al P, he says he wasn't supposed to read the 10 nominees. But "my eyes see Oppenheimer" is a funny way to announce the winner.
― jaymc, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 15:02 (three days ago) link
its so disrespectful
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 15:04 (three days ago) link
My eyes adored Oppenheimer.
― henry s, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 15:04 (three days ago) link
my grandma is suffering from dementia pretty bad where she can't remember the names of my kids or what she was in the hospital for yesterday, but her memory of events up to about 2009 or so is actually pretty good. feels like Trump has a similar thing going on
― frogbs, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 15:04 (three days ago) link
yeah pretty common to not be able to put new stuff in
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 15:06 (three days ago) link
My mom is in a dementia wing along with a bunch of other folks who essentially can't carry on any sort of conversation but damn if they still don't nail all the old-time movie trivia questions when they play "Jeopardy" in the day room.
― henry s, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 15:07 (three days ago) link
I mean does he ever actually refer to any of the specific things that happened while he was in office? every time he talks about his term or the people he worked with he just makes everything up
― frogbs, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 15:09 (three days ago) link
future ILX dementia ward
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 17 April 2024 15:09 (three days ago) link
jimmy kimmel has been relentless! its kinda crazy. he devotes almost 3/4 of his monologues to trump. his gettysburg one was good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOaRZx-o2fc
― scott seward, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 15:37 (three days ago) link
obviously tonight will be all about that truth tweet. insane that he is still thinking about it. in court for a trial and this is what he fumes about. i never thought i would be rooting for jimmy kimmel but he is really getting to him!
― scott seward, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 15:40 (three days ago) link
It's funny that every late night host rips into Trump but Kimmel is the only one that seems to really get under his skin. I think we all know what this means — Trump was a big fan of The Man Show.
― Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Wednesday, 17 April 2024 15:47 (three days ago) link
it helps that jimmy's jokes are the funniest of late night. he must have some good writers. and he's less polite than the rest. he calls trump a scumbag and the like.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 15:55 (three days ago) link
Maybe it's because Kimmel seems the closest (of the Late Night hosts) to the type of guy who might be a Trump fan.
― Never fight uphill 'o me, boys! (President Keyes), Wednesday, 17 April 2024 15:55 (three days ago) link
I know he's a lib, but personality-wise he's in the same ballpark as Rogan.
― Never fight uphill 'o me, boys! (President Keyes), Wednesday, 17 April 2024 15:56 (three days ago) link
Trump was a big fan of The Man Show.
He's pissed he only gets to have Adam Carolla now.
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 17 April 2024 16:01 (three days ago) link
i didn't think trump could get more ridiculous but he apparently has a full time aide who follows him around with a wireless printer to print out positive stories about himself, even following on in a golf cart on the course
https://futurism.com/the-byte/trump-aide-wireless-printer-good-news
i would love to see the official terms of reference for that job
― H in Addis, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 16:07 (three days ago) link
Trump definitely watched loveline with Dr. Drew and AC on MTV
― President of the Canadian Council of Bassoonists (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 17 April 2024 16:10 (three days ago) link
i didn't think trump could get more ridiculous but he apparently has a full time aide who follows him around with a wireless printer to print out positive stories about himself, even following on in a golf cart on the course https://futurism.com/the-byte/trump-aide-wireless-printer-good-news🕸i would love to see the official terms of reference for that job
― President of the Canadian Council of Bassoonists (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 17 April 2024 16:11 (three days ago) link
I have a catamite following me with freshly mixed Negronis.
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 17 April 2024 16:11 (three days ago) link
Looking at the Trump clips in the Kimmel clip, I see Two-Scoops is leaning into the "Four Years Ago Things Were Better" thing, so hey hey COVID Nostalgia...
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 17 April 2024 16:13 (three days ago) link
this is the america i know and love! maybe trump IS the right person for the job...
https://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/stupid/indiana-meth-069345
APRIL 17--An Indiana woman is facing a narcotics charge after she called 911 to report purchasing an inferior batch of methamphetamine and say that she wanted to file charges against her drug dealer, police report.
As alleged in a probable cause affidavit, Sarah Harris, 34, twice dialed the police emergency number to declare that her meth was “not what it was supposed to be.”
The drug, she later explained to police, left her feeling as if she was having a heart attack. Harris said she had snorted a line of the meth and felt “something different when it touched her skin and nostrils.”
Harris noted that she and a friend had “smoked a bowl of normal meth” before she eventually obtained the meth that led her to call 911 earlier this year.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 16:24 (three days ago) link
Make Meth Great Again
― Never fight uphill 'o me, boys! (President Keyes), Wednesday, 17 April 2024 16:28 (three days ago) link
xps I assumed Pacino said it that way in case it was the wrong envelope again
― soup of magpies (geoffreyess), Wednesday, 17 April 2024 16:30 (three days ago) link
Coincidentally it turns out that Moonlight actually won AZ in 2020.
― Never fight uphill 'o me, boys! (President Keyes), Wednesday, 17 April 2024 16:33 (three days ago) link
xp or he forgot his readers and wanted to reserve space for a correction
― schrodingers cat was always cool (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 17 April 2024 16:39 (three days ago) link
There is a bit of the last words of Dutch Schultz in how Trump speaks, especially in that Gettysburg address (sic).
― The Artist formerly known as Earlnash, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 16:45 (three days ago) link
― scott seward, Wednesday, April 17, 2024 10:55 AM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
I was pretty shocked to see Blaire Erskine show up during one monologue, I know her from Twitter and she's very funny. no surprise that a late night production that would hire her would wind up being a lot sharper than the others. much better than Colbert which might as well be written by the Krassensteins
― frogbs, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 17:12 (three days ago) link
― Never fight uphill 'o me, boys! (President Keyes), Wednesday, April 17, 2024 10:55 AM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
yeah I've thought this as well, especially if you know him primarily from The Man Show (which I'm assuming Trump does). I disagree that he's like Rogan though, maybe they're both guy's guys who revel in dumb humor but Kimmel seems way more down-to-earth and skeptical
― frogbs, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 17:16 (three days ago) link
i think he has actually evolved? it can happen. i never watched The Man Show. the promos back then on MTV were enough to make me never want to see it. he just seemed like a random morning radio zoo crew guy back then. i remember when he had a kid who had medical problems and he brought it up on his show and i felt really bad for him and saw him as a human. years ago.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 18:09 (three days ago) link
Rogan replaced Kimmel on the Man Show, which is why I made the connection
― Never fight uphill 'o me, boys! (President Keyes), Wednesday, 17 April 2024 18:12 (three days ago) link
weird. i don't remember that. i mostly hate rogan for making me never want to watch old episodes of newsradio which i loved.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 18:14 (three days ago) link
the other reason it's easy to be surprised by it is that Adam Carolla never did evolve and is some douche conservative still
― CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 17 April 2024 18:19 (three days ago) link
he was on some stupid talk show once talking about how liberals were making it impossible to police because they essentially didn't let cops aggressively take action and kill the person they're chasing, so they do things like chase vehicles over long stretches including neighborhoods.
he was too stupid to realize that over-aggressive policing is why you'd find a cop ripping after a vehicle at 80 mph in a neighborhood.
― CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 17 April 2024 18:21 (three days ago) link
"We wouldn't have had to run over your kid if you'd let us take out the bad guys with bazookas."
― Never fight uphill 'o me, boys! (President Keyes), Wednesday, 17 April 2024 18:23 (three days ago) link
ooh he apparently made a documentary called "No Safe Spaces"
sounds great.
― CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 17 April 2024 18:25 (three days ago) link
Joe Rogan was of course the lvp of that Newsradio cast. I just remember an interview with Maura Tierney where she talked about how she was having a bad day on set one time because Rogan was really unpleasant to her, and Phil Hartman came over and gave her a very empathetic pep talk. I don't know why anyone would be mean to Maura Tierney.
― omar little, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 18:48 (three days ago) link
Fwiw, when Kimmel started his late night show in 2003 (mere weeks before the invasion of Iraq), he was the only guy in late night network TV doing anti-Bush material (albeit kind of soft-sold -- he wasn't Jon Stewart) and one of his first weekly co-hosts was Janene Garofalo promoting the launch of Air America. Of course, one of the other co-hosts was Don King talking up "George Walker Bush" every night, although Kimmel seemed to regard it in a "look at this jackass" kind of thing.
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 17 April 2024 18:59 (three days ago) link
As someone who watched The Man Show, Kimmel’s delivery was the main thing that made the whole thing read like satire to me
― Cemetry Gaetz (DJP), Wednesday, 17 April 2024 19:20 (three days ago) link
I only watched a couple of episodes and I genuinely thought he was a dolt. His current persona/show is thus a lot more interesting to me than it would be otherwise.
― Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Wednesday, 17 April 2024 19:24 (three days ago) link
Don't forget his other gig on Win Ben Stein's Money. I mean I suppose being fully embedded with that dude for years might turn you into a complete leftist as well.
― omar little, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 19:26 (three days ago) link
NewsIn Trump's NY criminal case, prosecutors file their so-called "Sandoval" notice—disclosing uncharged prior bad acts they intend to use at trial to impeach his credibility. The list in the document rattles off the NYAG civil fraud case, the E. Jean Carroll case, and more. pic.twitter.com/rlkeE3TisN— Adam Klasfeld (@KlasfeldReports) April 17, 2024
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 19:34 (three days ago) link
― President of the Canadian Council of Bassoonists (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 17 April 2024 20:25 (three days ago) link
Wetting his beak.
Former President Donald Trump’s campaign has found a new way to press for badly needed cash.In a letter received by Republican digital vendors this week, the Trump campaign is asking for down-ballot candidates who use his name, image and likeness in fundraising appeals to give at least 5 percent of the proceeds to the campaign.“Beginning tomorrow, we ask that all candidates and committees who choose to use President Trump’s name, image, and likeness split a minimum of 5% of all fundraising solicitations to Trump National Committee JFC. This includes but is not limited to sending to the house file, prospecting vendors, and advertising,” Trump co-campaign managers Susie Wiles and Chris LaCivita wrote in the letter, which is dated April 15.They add: “Any split that is higher than 5% will be seen favorably by the RNC and President Trump’s campaign and is routinely reported to the highest levels of leadership within both organizations.”
In a letter received by Republican digital vendors this week, the Trump campaign is asking for down-ballot candidates who use his name, image and likeness in fundraising appeals to give at least 5 percent of the proceeds to the campaign.
“Beginning tomorrow, we ask that all candidates and committees who choose to use President Trump’s name, image, and likeness split a minimum of 5% of all fundraising solicitations to Trump National Committee JFC. This includes but is not limited to sending to the house file, prospecting vendors, and advertising,” Trump co-campaign managers Susie Wiles and Chris LaCivita wrote in the letter, which is dated April 15.
They add: “Any split that is higher than 5% will be seen favorably by the RNC and President Trump’s campaign and is routinely reported to the highest levels of leadership within both organizations.”
― Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Wednesday, 17 April 2024 20:26 (three days ago) link
Holy Pay to Play, Batman!
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 20:29 (three days ago) link
They invited him in...
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 17 April 2024 20:34 (three days ago) link
A two-bit grifter until the end.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 17 April 2024 20:34 (three days ago) link
You have to kick up to the Don
― Never fight uphill 'o me, boys! (President Keyes), Wednesday, 17 April 2024 20:38 (three days ago) link
Trump National Committee JFC
― memphis milano: the new trend of the 80s (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 17 April 2024 20:40 (three days ago) link
Fuck you, pay me.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 20:40 (three days ago) link
I can’t stop reading that last paragraph in Tom Hagen’s voice
― tobo73, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 20:51 (three days ago) link
Isn't that last line the same one used on garden-variety MAGA rubes? "President Trump will be personally reviewing a list of patriots later this week, and he hopes to see your name on it!"
― henry s, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 21:14 (three days ago) link
smacks of desperation
― Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 22:04 (three days ago) link
He's under indictment for more than 90 felonies. Of course he's desperate. He sees delaying his trials until after November and winning the election as his best chance to escape that jeopardy. If he loses to Biden, he'll still delay in every way possible, but the writing is on the wall.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 17 April 2024 22:16 (three days ago) link
Makes we wonder (not really) whatever became of good ol' Tom DeLay...
― henry s, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 22:18 (three days ago) link
*me
you guys, i can feel it. he's just about to get his comeuppance.
― budo jeru, Thursday, 18 April 2024 00:03 (two days ago) link
Just sitting quietly for hours on end in a room without a television or snacks is his comeuppance
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 18 April 2024 00:07 (two days ago) link
no way his uppance comes very soon. it'll drag out interminably, but even as he pays hundreds of millions to ensure that he'll be stuck in that process for years, he will hate being stuck there with a passion.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 18 April 2024 00:08 (two days ago) link
I'm sticking with my $5 bet that there will be zero IRL consequences by the end of April.
― I painted my teeth (sleeve), Thursday, 18 April 2024 00:20 (two days ago) link
"Just sitting quietly for hours on end in a room without a television or snacks is his comeuppance"
its something anyway. he's not in control and you know that just enrages him. which i am all for. but he deserves so much hell. he has created a lot of pain for people as president and beyond.
― scott seward, Thursday, 18 April 2024 00:27 (two days ago) link
Karen McDougal might testify? that's gonna be awesomely awkward
It's like the final Seinfeld episode, all the ghosts coming back to haunt him
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 18 April 2024 00:37 (two days ago) link
I keep thinking Karen McDougal is someone from the Whitewater case. But I guess that her name is not Susan.
― Never fight uphill 'o me, boys! (President Keyes), Thursday, 18 April 2024 00:53 (two days ago) link
I had the same reaction.
― Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 18 April 2024 00:56 (two days ago) link
me three
― President of the Canadian Council of Bassoonists (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 18 April 2024 01:40 (two days ago) link
me boys
― frogbs, Thursday, 18 April 2024 02:13 (two days ago) link
you can't fight Karen McDougal uphill, me boys!
― scott seward, Thursday, 18 April 2024 02:28 (two days ago) link
"I paid a lawyer and was marking it down as a legal expense ..."
I'm not a legal person but I'm guessing that the defendant outright confessing to his role in a major campaign finance violation, tax fraud etc in front of all the US media outside the courtroom is not a good move for his defense team.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 18 April 2024 06:31 (two days ago) link
Yeah, it's apparently admissible.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 18 April 2024 11:39 (two days ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtBHDjztb2g
― scott seward, Thursday, 18 April 2024 12:16 (two days ago) link
he might be onto something with this diaper thing
― frogbs, Thursday, 18 April 2024 12:43 (two days ago) link
well now we know the Trump team's strategy. wonder if he'll be held in contempt for stuff like this. one thing I learned from the trial I was on is that judges are very protective of the jurors and won't stand for this kind of thing. especially given how hard it is to find people to even serve on this thing.
After Jesse Watters ran this segment and Trump posted it, this juror asked to be excused because she was concerned about her identity becoming public. Fox & Trump are coordinating to intimidate jurors. pic.twitter.com/Fz8JC4A0n8— Ron Filipkowski (@RonFilipkowski) April 18, 2024
― frogbs, Thursday, 18 April 2024 14:27 (two days ago) link
It's absolutely bonkers not just that a former president is on trial at all, but that jurors are dropping out because they fear for their safety *from followers of as well as the same former president.*
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 18 April 2024 14:49 (two days ago) link
Apparently Trump was caught using his phone in court, too.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 18 April 2024 14:50 (two days ago) link
god that dude has such a punchable face
― President of the Canadian Council of Bassoonists (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 18 April 2024 15:00 (two days ago) link
there's a hearing set for Tuesday on the request to hold Trump in contempt
― CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Thursday, 18 April 2024 15:13 (two days ago) link
is that the same one or did they move it up? I read some places that they might try to move it up.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 18 April 2024 15:14 (two days ago) link
the NYT reported "later this month."
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 18 April 2024 15:20 (two days ago) link
The 23rd is the specific date given.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 18 April 2024 15:23 (two days ago) link
Asked about how Trump looked in the courtroom, Kat said, "He looked less orange" than she was expecting.She added, “He doesn’t look angry or — I think he looks bored, like he wants this to finish.”
She added, “He doesn’t look angry or — I think he looks bored, like he wants this to finish.”
― CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Thursday, 18 April 2024 15:29 (two days ago) link
― I painted my teeth (sleeve), Thursday, 18 April 2024 15:31 (two days ago) link
Heh
― Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 18 April 2024 15:33 (two days ago) link
He is probably used to seeing that look himself.
― Never fight uphill 'o me, boys! (President Keyes), Thursday, 18 April 2024 15:40 (two days ago) link
A beheading meme and 'Mark Ruffalo, naked' — how 'anti-Trump' posts got 5 New Yorkers booted from the hush-money trial
― scott seward, Thursday, 18 April 2024 16:16 (two days ago) link
extra! extra!
Kara McGee, a juror dismissed from the hush money criminal trial, told CNN ... that it was a fascinating experience because on the one hand, she was aware that "this is history in the making and whatever the outcome of this is, everything going forward will be affected by it" and at the same time she walked into the courtroom and saw Trump sitting there and realized, "Oh it's just a guy ... he's just a dude."
― jaymc, Thursday, 18 April 2024 16:21 (two days ago) link
Wonder what happened here:
The precise reason for the dismissal of one juror was not immediately clear, but prosecutors had raised concerns about the credibility of answers he gave to questions about himself. Asked outside the courthouse whether he believed he should have been dismissed, the man, who declined to give his name, replied: “Nope.”
― Never fight uphill 'o me, boys! (President Keyes), Thursday, 18 April 2024 17:00 (two days ago) link
Earlier today, prosecutor Joshua Steinglass said he notified the court that in the prosecution’s research, they found information about this juror that called into question the veracity of the answers he gave during voir dire.Prosecutors said they found records of a person with the same name who was arrested in the 1990s for tearing down political advertisements.
Prosecutors said they found records of a person with the same name who was arrested in the 1990s for tearing down political advertisements.
― ain't nothin but a brie thing, baby (Neanderthal), Thursday, 18 April 2024 17:03 (two days ago) link
i posted kara mcgee's interview up above somewhere with that quote. its good. she's the kind of smart person you want on a jury!
― scott seward, Thursday, 18 April 2024 17:11 (two days ago) link
Voir Dire sounds like a 80's french metal band
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 18 April 2024 17:25 (two days ago) link
xxp yeah the guy had answered that he'd never been arrested but they found that he had.
― Kim Kimberly, Thursday, 18 April 2024 17:33 (two days ago) link
I think he looks bored, like he wants this to finish
To Trump, the trial and the verdict are only temporary stops on the road to a flurry of motions to dismiss and appeals to higher courts. The shorter the trial, the sooner he gets out of sitting in the courtroom. And he's not wrong insofar as that goes. To his thinking there's nothing irreversible about a series of guilty verdicts on all 30 or so felony counts he's charged with. Having a billion dollars (give or take) does weird stuff to your head. Combine that with having served as POTUS for 4 years, with literally millions of workers serving your whims and no wonder he's just bored instead of solemnly contemplating the precarious position he's in.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 18 April 2024 17:33 (two days ago) link
Per NYT:
Trump is walking out. Passing the reporters in the final row, he asks us, “Cold enough? Is it cold enough?” (It is.)
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 18 April 2024 18:16 (two days ago) link
(This was for lunch break though I would be amused if he just got up and left while saying that and nobody else knew what to think.)
I was reading too fast and thought that said “Trump is passing out.”
― Requiem for a Dream: The Musical! (Dan Peterson), Thursday, 18 April 2024 18:23 (two days ago) link
he won't return from lunch, will get in a car chase in a Weinermobile
― ain't nothin but a brie thing, baby (Neanderthal), Thursday, 18 April 2024 18:23 (two days ago) link
"We're all looking for the guy" etc.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 18 April 2024 18:24 (two days ago) link
did trump's people really ask rfk jr to be VP? that might be the rapture right there...
― scott seward, Thursday, 18 April 2024 18:29 (two days ago) link
I believe RFK's affirmation more than the Trump denial
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 18 April 2024 18:34 (two days ago) link
And when he said no of course they denigrated him on social media which sounds very much like team trump tactics
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 18 April 2024 18:35 (two days ago) link
I think Trump dangles the VP spot out to lots of people just to see what he can extract from them
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Thursday, 18 April 2024 18:37 (two days ago) link
RFK did the same lol
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 18 April 2024 18:47 (two days ago) link
don't wanna hear about RFK's dangle
― ain't nothin but a brie thing, baby (Neanderthal), Thursday, 18 April 2024 18:49 (two days ago) link
a dangle in the grassy dingle
― scott seward, Thursday, 18 April 2024 18:58 (two days ago) link
Well anecdotally a lot of support for RFK is coming from people who would other vote for Trump so co-opting him wouldn’t be the dumbest thing by the Trump campaign
― Are you addicted to struggling with your horse? (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 18 April 2024 19:05 (two days ago) link
If Trump was really going that direction, it makes it more likely he'll pick someone like Tulsi.
― Never fight uphill 'o me, boys! (President Keyes), Thursday, 18 April 2024 19:16 (two days ago) link
Trump panders to his base PERFECTLY. The critical component is how many self-described conservatives who see Trump as a truly horrible person will vote for him anyway, because he is the Republican nominee and therefore automatically the correct 'conservative choice' on the ballot.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 18 April 2024 19:32 (two days ago) link
Well that's essentially what Bill Barr said yesterday.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 18 April 2024 19:44 (two days ago) link
Sad to say, that reflexive voting pattern will no doubt deliver millions of votes for Trump, often in swing states. None of this is much of a secret to either party or anyone here. At thje national level we're mostly spectators. At the local level there's much more opportunity to make a difference.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 18 April 2024 20:09 (two days ago) link
Anyway, twelve jurors plus one alternate now selected; sounds like Merchan is aiming to have the rest of the alternates (six total) seated by tomorrow at least.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 18 April 2024 20:55 (two days ago) link
When it's going great, per NYT:
Todd Blanche, a defense lawyer, asked for the names of the first three witnesses before proceedings ended for the day. But a prosecutor, Joshua Steinglass, refused to provide them, saying it’s a courtesy they normally extend, but "Mr. Trump has been tweeting about the witnesses.” The judge responded: “I can’t fault them for that.” Blanche asks what would happen if he could guarantee that his client wouldn’t do so. “I dont think you can make that representation,” Justice Merchan says, sharply.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 18 April 2024 21:30 (two days ago) link
Mitchell Epner, whose judgment I trust, calls that a 'pretty significant sanction,' adding that while he has no idea how Merchan will rule on contempt next week, Merchan still 'just made it clear he believes that FPOTUS has acted in violation of the pre-trial order.' Again, what actually happens, who knows, but while Blanche has to be somewhat aware there's a 'give them enough rope' play happening, I doubt Trump does.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 18 April 2024 21:39 (two days ago) link
Fascinating scene. As Necheles queries their personal opinions, Trump is forced to sit down & hear several say they don't like his character.Slumped back in his chair, arms folded, big frown, furrowed brow. Angry as people trash him.He's longer surrounded by sycophants.— Jose Pagliery (@Jose_Pagliery) April 18, 2024
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 18 April 2024 21:51 (two days ago) link
he has months to come of average americans - prospective jurors - telling the court that they don't like him
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 18 April 2024 22:23 (two days ago) link
My former student Jose Pagliery.
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 18 April 2024 22:24 (two days ago) link
I can't help fear that one of his foot soldiers will slip through the voir dire and hang the jury.
― nickn, Thursday, 18 April 2024 22:25 (two days ago) link
[And yes, "hang the jury, hang the jury, hang the jury ..."]
― nickn, Thursday, 18 April 2024 22:26 (two days ago) link
And the songs that they constantly play/They say nothing to me about MY trial
― Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 18 April 2024 22:29 (two days ago) link
Beware, I bear more grudges than lonely high court judges ...
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 18 April 2024 22:31 (two days ago) link
Considering the prevalence of social media and the penchant of the people using it to frequently and loudly proclaim their opinions on Trump, the kind of Trump fanatic most likely to slip onto the jury would be someone not on social media, whose opinions have been shaped by nonstop watching of FOX NEWS, viz. an old person.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 18 April 2024 22:32 (two days ago) link
Ain't singing for BidenAin't singing for TrumpI don't sing for nobodyMakes me look like a chump
― ain't nothin but a brie thing, baby (Neanderthal), Thursday, 18 April 2024 22:33 (two days ago) link
that's it, i've seen enough
― z_tbd, Thursday, 18 April 2024 22:38 (two days ago) link
In honor of Merchan, and of Pigmeat Markham's 120th birthday today
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ohq9h6QIcHY
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 18 April 2024 22:49 (two days ago) link
I haven't seen enough of him looking glum and dour with no snacks and not allowed to play poker on his phone
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 18 April 2024 22:52 (two days ago) link
lol he’s going to be found guilty isn’t he
Merchan declines to approve the challenge to the Borowitz Report enjoyer— Josh Kovensky (@JoshKovensky) April 16, 2024
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 18 April 2024 23:01 (two days ago) link
I sure fucking hope so
― I painted my teeth (sleeve), Friday, 19 April 2024 01:02 (yesterday) link
How does a jury usual view the defendant repeatedly falling asleep in court?
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 19 April 2024 17:49 (yesterday) link
Pro? Con? Jealous?
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 19 April 2024 17:50 (yesterday) link
Holy shit, someone just set themselves on fire outside the court room?!
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 19 April 2024 17:52 (yesterday) link
Meantime the six alternates have been chosen, we have a full jury selection.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 19 April 2024 17:53 (yesterday) link
Trump should self-immolate.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 19 April 2024 17:53 (yesterday) link
did that wake him up? xxpost
― StanM, Friday, 19 April 2024 17:53 (yesterday) link
Outside the courthouse rather than the room itself per NYT:
A young man set himself on fire after dousing himself with a flammable liquid in Collect Pond Park, across from the courthouse. As onlookers screamed, bright orange flames engulfed the man.He was in the area of the park cordoned-off for Trump supporters, around two dozen of whom fled screaming.The heat of the flames of the burning man could be felt a hundred feet away.The man threw multicolored pamphlets in the air before lighting himself on fire. It is unclear what motivated his action.It took several minutes for police officers to rush to the scene. A detective who was early to arrive tried to smother the man — who had collapsed — with his coat to extinguish the flames. Soon, dozens of officers swarmed the scene and began using a fire extinguisher.The man was still moving as officers knelt beside him and asked his name. He was loaded into an ambulance and taken away.
He was in the area of the park cordoned-off for Trump supporters, around two dozen of whom fled screaming.
The heat of the flames of the burning man could be felt a hundred feet away.
The man threw multicolored pamphlets in the air before lighting himself on fire. It is unclear what motivated his action.
It took several minutes for police officers to rush to the scene. A detective who was early to arrive tried to smother the man — who had collapsed — with his coat to extinguish the flames. Soon, dozens of officers swarmed the scene and began using a fire extinguisher.
The man was still moving as officers knelt beside him and asked his name. He was loaded into an ambulance and taken away.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 19 April 2024 17:54 (yesterday) link
Classic NYT headline tease:
Twelve jurors and six alternates have been chosen in the Manhattan trial of Donald Trump. Outside the courthouse, a man set himself on fire.
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 19 April 2024 17:54 (yesterday) link
there were bigly tears...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcmG2knXCKQ
― scott seward, Friday, 19 April 2024 17:55 (yesterday) link
"I mean, I guess we could have read one of the pamphlets before filing this story, now that you mention it..."
― Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Friday, 19 April 2024 17:55 (yesterday) link
Trump's lawyers find a potential alternates old social media posts, including one assailing Trump's "sociopathic incompetence."Judge: Does that describe your feelings at that time?"I wouldn’t say that’s far off-base," he says.— Adam Klasfeld (@KlasfeldReports) April 19, 2024
Another one of his old posts said of Trump:"I do actually believe that he’s the devil." He says, "At that time, yeah, I may have thought that."He's excused for cause.— Adam Klasfeld (@KlasfeldReports) April 19, 2024
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 19 April 2024 17:55 (yesterday) link
did anyone read the pamphlet? might be a clue in there.
― z_tbd, Friday, 19 April 2024 17:55 (yesterday) link
Also the rest of today is a Sandoval hearing, which translates as the prosecutors going "Oh, he says he wants to testify? Sure thing your honor, we'd like to ask him about all his other convictions on the record." (Among other things.) Judge has to sign off on it, thus the hearing.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 19 April 2024 17:56 (yesterday) link
Meiselas: What I’m hearing from credible sources is that Donald Trump is actually farting in the courtroom… I’m hearing it from actual credible people that as he’s kind of falling asleep, he’s actually passing gas and that his lawyers are really struggling with the smell. pic.twitter.com/wa6F3iRDgX— Acyn (@Acyn) April 19, 2024
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 19 April 2024 17:58 (yesterday) link
iwanttobelieve.gif
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 19 April 2024 17:59 (yesterday) link
idontwanttobreathe
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 19 April 2024 18:00 (yesterday) link
I have a hectic morning at work and all THIS happens and I miss it
― Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 19 April 2024 18:02 (yesterday) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ou7c8Sg9YVg
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 19 April 2024 18:04 (yesterday) link
taking the FART act a little too literally
― I painted my teeth (sleeve), Friday, 19 April 2024 18:08 (yesterday) link
One TrumpOne FartLet's get together andreek all night
― ain't nothin but a brie thing, baby (Neanderthal), Friday, 19 April 2024 18:09 (yesterday) link
It might have been even more tragic had Trump farted too close to the person that self-immolated. (Too soon?)
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 19 April 2024 18:21 (yesterday) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywCH3HN2S7E
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 19 April 2024 18:36 (yesterday) link
maybe better to wait a bit to discover the self-immolator's mental state
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 19 April 2024 18:51 (yesterday) link
The guy who self-immolated has an online manifesto that is a bit hard to nail down ideologically. It's a theory about Peter Thiel and a cryptocurrency Ponzi scheme, but then goes on to talk about how Bill Clinton was mean to Dukakis and maybe had Epstein set-up Rob Lowe because he was a Dukakis supporter.
― Never fight uphill 'o me, boys! (President Keyes), Friday, 19 April 2024 18:53 (yesterday) link
sounds... unsound
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 19 April 2024 19:01 (yesterday) link
His sign said, "Trump is with Biden and They're About to Fascist Coup Us."
― Never fight uphill 'o me, boys! (President Keyes), Friday, 19 April 2024 19:02 (yesterday) link
manifesto also has a long digression about the Simpsons monorail episode.
― Never fight uphill 'o me, boys! (President Keyes), Friday, 19 April 2024 19:03 (yesterday) link
not joking
xpostsThe fArt of the Deal
― StanM, Friday, 19 April 2024 19:13 (yesterday) link
Just out of curiosity does anyone know if Aaron Rodgers is at the Jets voluntary minicamp today?
― frogbs, Friday, 19 April 2024 19:20 (yesterday) link
That guy would rather set himself on fire then report to any sort of camp voluntarily. Freedom!!
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 19 April 2024 19:34 (yesterday) link
Apparently, the guy who set himself on fire was not concerned about Trump at all, pro or con. He had a long online manifesto about cryptocurrency and some grievances he had against NYU, but he knew where the reporters were gonna be.
― Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Friday, 19 April 2024 19:43 (yesterday) link
And to think, Trump probably slept through the whole thing, poor little guy.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 19 April 2024 19:46 (yesterday) link
“He knew where the reporters were gonna be” for May thread title
― Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 19 April 2024 19:47 (yesterday) link
self-immolator also had a laura dern podcast called dern after reading
― ivy., Friday, 19 April 2024 19:50 (yesterday) link
Guilty lolz
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 19 April 2024 19:55 (yesterday) link
Went and read it. Was not pro trump like I expected. Kind of a despairing anticapitalism run through a conspiracy blender and WTF close readings of classic simpsons episodes. Made me sad more than anything.
― realistic pillow (Jon not Jon), Friday, 19 April 2024 19:56 (yesterday) link
kinda seemed like the QAnon Shaman guy
― frogbs, Friday, 19 April 2024 20:00 (yesterday) link
Letitia James has asked Judge Engoron to reject Trump's $175 million bond, on the grounds that the company he used is not financially sound. Link here.
― Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Friday, 19 April 2024 20:05 (yesterday) link
Got to give her credit, she is not fucking around.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 19 April 2024 20:24 (yesterday) link
Manifesto guy bundled lots of his stuff together into a pamphlet called Dipshit Secrets of our Rotten World, which is applause worthy.
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Friday, 19 April 2024 20:29 (yesterday) link
I would have read it
― Never fight uphill 'o me, boys! (President Keyes), Friday, 19 April 2024 20:31 (yesterday) link
its not fair that Trump's the one on trial and yet it's everyone else who's getting the gas chamber
― frogbs, Friday, 19 April 2024 20:43 (yesterday) link
And how to end your Friday per the NYT:
Jesse McKinleyApril 19, 2024, 4:30 p.m. ET20 minutes ago“Sir, can you please have a seat?” the judge says to Trump, as he rises before court is adjourned.Maggie HabermanApril 19, 2024, 4:30 p.m. ET19 minutes agoJustice Merchan has left the bench. Trump is standing and looking around the room.Jonah BromwichApril 19, 2024, 4:31 p.m. ET19 minutes agoTrump walks out of the courtroom, patting the bench behind the defense table like an old friend as he goes.
“Sir, can you please have a seat?” the judge says to Trump, as he rises before court is adjourned.
Maggie HabermanApril 19, 2024, 4:30 p.m. ET19 minutes ago
Justice Merchan has left the bench. Trump is standing and looking around the room.
Jonah BromwichApril 19, 2024, 4:31 p.m. ET19 minutes ago
Trump walks out of the courtroom, patting the bench behind the defense table like an old friend as he goes.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 19 April 2024 20:51 (yesterday) link
After Trump lawyer Susan Necheles asked again for the name of at least the first witness, Steinglass said he would tell Trump’s counsel the name on Sunday, but if the identity is tweeted before Monday, “that will be the last time.”
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 19 April 2024 21:12 (yesterday) link
Clearly a post-fart shot:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-apps/imrs.php?src=https://arc-anglerfish-washpost-prod-washpost.s3.amazonaws.com/public/Z7CYYILLD4MLHBCOVIG36LTAYU.jpg&w=916
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 19 April 2024 21:33 (yesterday) link
Does he know which trial he’s in? (I mean, sometimes I get all the legal proceedings mixed up, too, so…)
― Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 19 April 2024 21:35 (yesterday) link
trump sharted u kno he did
― schrodingers cat was always cool (Hunt3r), Friday, 19 April 2024 21:36 (yesterday) link
for thread title
Sir, you were farting bigly.
― StanM, Saturday, 20 April 2024 02:55 (seven hours ago) link
really funny that the "Trump farted in court" story is taking off, you know it's gonna bother the shit outta him but the more he talks about it the more everyone's gonna think he farted in court
― frogbs, Saturday, 20 April 2024 03:14 (seven hours ago) link
Quite embarrassing to fart at your porn star hush money trial
― Never fight uphill 'o me, boys! (President Keyes), Saturday, 20 April 2024 03:27 (seven hours ago) link
bring on the fart truthers. they'll try to argue that he who smelt it dealt it but we all know it is in fact he who denied it
― frogbs, Saturday, 20 April 2024 03:29 (six hours ago) link
If I Dealt It by Donald Trump
― frogbs, Saturday, 20 April 2024 03:51 (six hours ago) link
― frogbs
He who denied it supplied it.
― nickn, Saturday, 20 April 2024 07:14 (three hours ago) link
David Pecker is such a classic victimised supply teacher, or porn star name. Apologies, I'm easily amused.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 20 April 2024 08:36 (one hour ago) link