Trump, July 2017: Tweet more

http://i.imgur.com/s4EHzHf.jpg

ugggggghhhhh

Another month in hell

A wonderful summary by John Cole ("previously, on...")

But the important thing to remember in all of this is that while all this is going on, Republican operatives are using the chaos to fulfill life long goals.

The Kris Kobach/Hans von Sapovsky voter purge, the destruction of medicaid, destroying longstanding alliances and trade agreements, immigrations “reforms,” stacking the courts, gutting the EPA and actively using the government to attack CLimate Science, etc. It’s nearly impossible to keep track of all the evil shit that is going on, and it wouldn’t surprise me if Trump doesn’t know of 99% of the shit that is happening.

link for credit https://www.balloon-juice.com/2017/06/30/schlock-doctrine/

New thread? But I wasn't done laughing at covfefe ! Guys.... Covfefe! Covfefe! Covfefe!

it wouldn’t surprise me if Trump doesn’t know of or care about 99% of the shit that is happening.

covfefe is not dead, sleepingbag, it only sleeps

mark your calendars - just three more weeks and this horrifying nightmare presidency will be one-eighth of the way over!

or one-sixteenth

covfefe is not dead, sleepingbag, it only sleeps

"In his house at R'lyeh, dead Covfefe waits dreaming"

kayfabe covfefe :)

MLS fans should ditch the old world-famous "ole, ole ole ole, ole, ole" and go with "covfefe, covfefe! covfefe, covfefe." It's more American.

how is covfefe pronounced? I like "cahv-fay-fay"

I say Co-fee-fee

COVE FEI FEI

as in Wong Fei-hung

a shame this thread was named before this https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/speaking-of-science/wp/2017/07/01/it-has-to-be-something-but-it-could-be-infinity-trump-ponders-space-in-strange-ceremony/?utm_term=.54ae91ced78b

“At some point in the future, we’re going to look back and say how did we do it without space?”

“Infinity and beyond!” Aldrin said.

Everyone laughed.

Then Trump added some lines of his own.

“This is infinity here,” he said. “It could be infinity. We don’t really don’t know. But it could be. It has to be something — but it could be infinity, right?”

I mean had Buzz Aldrin been a little later you wouldn’t have had the Deep Impact. He was a very tough person, but he had a big heart. He was really angry that he saw what was happening with regard to the meteors, he said, "There’s no reason for this." People don’t realize, you know, infinity, if you think about it, how much is that? People don’t ask that question, but how much is infinity? Why could that one not have been worked out?

Trump should allocate billions toward the discovery of infinity. I mean, you never know, right? It could be right there. Maybe it's even been there all along!

I support the President ordering his entire Cabinet to drop everything they're doing and begin counting to infinity, no matter how long it takes. Maybe it could be suggested to him that this was precisely the kind of decisive action that Failing Obama was too chicken to take.

Remarks by the President Signing an Executive Order on the National Space Council

So, I just want to tell you that we are now going to sign an executive order, and this is going to launch a whole new chapter for our great country. And people are very excited about it and I can tell you, I’m very excited about it. Thank you all very much. (Applause.)

(The order is signed.)

COLONEL ALDRIN: Infinity and beyond. (Laughter.)

THE PRESIDENT: This is infinity here. It could be infinity. We don’t really don’t know. But it could be. It has to be something -- but it could be infinity, right?

Okay.

Jeez, you guys are all approximately 1.5 hours ahead of me....

lol this is his pinned tweet

I am thinking about changing the name #FakeNews CNN to #FraudNewsCNN!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) July 1, 2017

I still can't believe Donald Trump is the President of the United States.

This is pretty powerful

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/in-a-midwestern-town-that-went-for-trump-a-muslim-doctor-tries-to-understand-his-neighbors/2017/07/01/0ada50c4-5c48-11e7-9fc6-c7ef4bc58d13_story.html

Is he planning to start a war with North Korea as the ultimate diversion tactic?

Starting a war would build loyalty/goodwill among jingoistic idiots, redouble the divide between "patriots" and "globalist cucks," and give Trump some serious conflict to sink his teeth into as a distraction from the unbearable emptiness of his being.

Win. Win. Win.

The "strategic patience is over" line really bothered me. It's probably just more bullshit but still terrifying.

trump starting a catastrophic idiotic war is one of my biggest fears. it seems obvious that he'll do it. he has voices whispering in his ear telling him to do it.

HAPPY SATURDAY NIGHT THO

NK regime understands particularly well that having the serious ability to fight back is their best guarantee of survival, no matter what bluster Trump can dish out. War would mean hundreds of thousands dead in the first couple of weeks. They're even strategically hardened against nukes and could inflict plenty of damage even after a nuclear strike. If Trump gets all upset at the sight of a few Syrian kids getting bombed, he ought to break down into a weepy puddle on the floor at the thought of the masses of Korean kids he'd personally kill, maim and traumatize by starting a shooting war in Korea.

oh that's different

He doesn't care about Syrian kids. He only cares about getting attention by being the biggest asshole possible. Who knows what kind of reasoning will go into his military decision making.

If he provokes Kim Jong Un to commit atrocities he will probably say that proves he was right to attack and say the crooked fake media thought Kim was just fine.

I mean, who knows. Hopefully no one tries to talk him into some major conflict. There are plenty possible ones he could pick -- NK is just an example based on his recent statement.

We've already collectively othered the people and leaders of North Korea (see ILX thread "North Korea people getting fucked over for life is hilarious!" or whatever - although i will grant that the kim jong family is just fucking ridiculous and it is sort of funny), so I don't envision many people crying about the dead, let alone trump. beyond perhaps the diehard iraq war protesters, no one really gave a shit about all the civilians who died there. when people talk about what a terrible mistake that was, they're generally referring to the geopolitical consequences. GWB is a colossal piece of shit but he's probably spent more time thinking about the people that died as a result of his decisions than just about anyone else. although who knows, maybe everyone is constantly thinking about the people who were slaughtered but don't want to say anything because it never feels like a good time to bring it up. in my experience whenever that topic comes up people are just like "yeah...man that was fucked up *stare blankly for 2 seconds* i like hot dogs" or whatever and then it's over. anyway, my point is that no one cared about the dead civilians in iraq, and we've already been trained from birth to think that everything in NK is a joke and they have it coming. and that's like, for a normal USA person. trump is something else. i get tired of everyone psychologizing him but er yeah i don't think he cares about anyone else in the universe so i sure as hell don't think he really cares about who is going to die whenever he tells "the generals" to do something, or more accurately, whenever he allows "the generals" to do whatever they've been wanting to do for a long time

http://thehill.com/policy/defense/340330-possible-war-authorization-repeal-reflects-growing-shift-in-gop

Maybe this will become law before it's too late.

Buuuuuuut probably not

Cuz if there's anything Trump respects, it's the law

Kinda feeling like we jumped the gun on the thread title: "MODERN DAY PRESIDENTIAL" is clearly the better option.

My use of social media is not Presidential - it’s MODERN DAY PRESIDENTIAL. Make America Great Again!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) July 1, 2017

I was wondering how fleeting each new fiasco would be in the olight of the next one.
He'll probably say something even more odd before the day is out.
But yeah Modern Day Presidential does have a certain ring about it, maybe preserve it as a new word for potential nadir?

If he leaves enough room in a tweet for the full "Make America Great Again!," instead of #MAGA or whatever, does he give himself two extra cookies?

this thread title gets 'hamilton' stuck in my head

"Modern Day Presidential" isn't a thread title, it's an album title.

“Whoa,” Lee wrote on Twitter following a voice vote that pushed through her amendment to sunset the 2001 Authorization for Use of Military Force (AUMF).

Need to know where this falls in darraghmac' cosmology of WHOA tweets

XP The hotly anticipated follow-up to I've Got My Own Country To Bomb.

um latest tweet anyone

Need to know where this falls in darraghmac' cosmology of WHOA tweets

― El Tomboto, Sunday, 2 July 2017 13:19 (thirty minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Feels legit tbf until we find out what will replace it

CNN is fake, but wrestling is real

um latest tweet anyone

We are officially in the dystopia timeline

the tweet is very good tbh

um latest tweet anyone

jesus god almighty

#FraudNewsCNN #FNN pic.twitter.com/WYUnHjjUjg

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) July 2, 2017

re: leaving enough room in tweets, remember that this is a president whose legal counsel (incidentally a member of a Boston-desecrating republican cover band) bases whole defenses on false and easily disprovable claims that the president was just out of characters and simply couldn't fit in a non-incriminating message. so basically any tweet could possibly be any other tweet

So his point is the news, like wrestling, is fake, and he excels in kicking some ass in fake events only? Ok, then.

This is the worst episode of Black Mirror.

I Am Kicking and SCreaming into a Paper Bag Because The Traitor In Chief Posted A Particularly Controversial Ziggy Last Night pic.twitter.com/5fW9x4XYxu

— 🍍 Dollars Horton 🍍 (@crushingbort) July 2, 2017

today is the day donald trump became president

He's gotten especially fixated on cable news the past fee days. It's weird.

Ok lol

The original was posted here 4 days ago: https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/6jy5xo/trump_takes_down_fake_news_colorized_2017/

This feels disturbingly accurate:

There is no president, there is a delusional old man who tweets and occasionally performs the ceremonial parts of the job.

— Jamelle Bouie (@jbouie) July 1, 2017

If there was a way to hit the reset button and live just about anywhere else, I would

💅

Ugh media going with the "this is a literal threat" angle

president kayfabe

related

http://deadspin.com/triple-h-donald-trump-is-unclear-on-whether-wrestling-1790037536

See the thread title is perfect now

My use of social media is not Presidential - it’s MODERN DAY PRESIDENTIAL.

this is the most literally true thing he has ever said

This is pretty powerful

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/in-a-midwestern-town-that-went-for-trump-a-muslim-doctor-tries-to-understand-his-neighbors/2017/07/01/0ada50c4-5c48-11e7-9fc6-c7ef4bc58d13_story.html

― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, July 1, 2017 7:37 PM (yesterday)

cried a lot reading this. i cringed for him when he started to go off the rails a bit during the third lecture. seems like a decent, ordinary guy who has to deal with things no one should have to. incredible reporting.

ugh this story

that's an incredible piece.

yes.

So apparently Trump is gonna try and sneak into England for a visit, because he wants to avoid protests. Except a) the Independent is already reporting the plan, and b) it's being said that if it happens, it will happen as part of his trip to France for Bastille Day, which is July 14. So if he's going to "sneak in," it's going to be either the day before or the day after. I'm pretty sure the protesters will be able to mobilize and execute on that kind of notice, don't you?

That Ziggy thing is killing me, because C-SPAN is literally nothing but a live feed of congress most of the time.

Not only that, Trump seems to think that was an actual Ziggy cartoon, not a fake he plucked off the internet.

unperson, these are people who can't keep Russian photographers out of the Oval Office, of course they can't imagine protesters being able to add and subtract from a specific and obvious date

Did Trump actually tweet the ziggy cartoon? I can't find it on his feed

i fully endorse the president doing more skulking.

hate to break it to you but the ziggy tweet is actual fake news

I believe it is meant to be an example of Literal Things That Could Happen and as such has poignancy becz Ziggy!

reading this, about just one pesticide that Pruitt has delayed action on, which seems to cause developmental problems in children:

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/15/health/pesticides-epa-chlorpyrifos-scott-pruitt.html

and actually literally thinking there needs to be a Nuremberg trial for these people.

Spiders from Mars feeling very left out rn

Oh and

There is no president

THERE IS ONLY ZUUL

i cringed for him when he started to go off the rails a bit during the third lecture.

This was awesome, a bit scattered maybe but totally righteous anger and exasperation.

i feel sorry for dude having to read the fucking bible just to debate his audiences

Tbf everyone should read the bible (and the koran)

Especially if it's illustrated imo

Tbf everyone should read the bible (and the koran)

Speaking as someone who is currently required to read the Bible (mostly double-checking quotes) for a freelance project, uh, fuck no they shouldn't.

everyone should be required to read Deeper Thoughts by Jack Handy, the sequel to Deep Thoughts by Jack Handy. It's just as good if not better than the original

Actually, most writers should read Bible stories at some point. I was lucky to read them at the same time as Greek mythology in 7th grade.

oh man that article about the Muslim doctor. kind of a nice ending, though!

i haven't read it yet but i hope the ending is that he is now president of the united states

haha me too :(

btw my mom doesn't live in Dawson, Minnesota or anything and she doesn't wear hijab but a couple of months ago she started carrying her passport with her everywhere she goes "just in case," she told me and it makes me quietly despair

i mean there are a lot of people who have it worse than she does in trump's america, but i feel confident that she had some encounters that made her decide to do that that she's not telling me about and it is just sad

xp: Doubt he'll still be in rural Minnesota in 3 years, TBH.

I still know every time I walk the dogs which houses had Trump signs.

The 'says who?' guy has his troubles:

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/02/us/politics/michael-cohen-donald-trump.html

But learns from the master:

Like Mr. Trump, he lashes out at critics on Twitter, where he also spends quite a bit of time fighting with anonymous critics, or trolls — calling them “haters” and “idiots,” sometimes within the comment threads of Mr. Trump’s tweets.

In one such exchange last week, a Twitter user named Corvetteman, who has 88 followers and a profile photograph of an orange cat, called Mr. Cohen “a joke.” Mr. Cohen replied: “Reminder...@realDonaldTrump won! Wake up #hater.”

I am also now remembering a while back (post 9/11, pre-Obama) my dad had a neighbor who was nasty to him about being Muslim in a series of escalating incidents (my stepmother does wear hijab). I remember telling him he needed to make a big stink about it and that his other neighbors would have his back. he seemed less confident about that than I was. now I wonder if I was wrong. he's a pediatrician and he had cared for some of those neighbors' kids. at the time I couldn't imagine they'd be okay with him getting harassed on the daily.

Speaking as someone who is currently required to read the Bible (mostly double-checking quotes) for a freelance project, uh, fuck no they shouldn't.

― grawlix (unperson), Monday, 3 July 2017 04:00 (five hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Is it the mandatory nature that you're against, or do you consider it, like, a dangerous book?

more that it's really boring

Genesis, Judges, the Chronicles, and the Kings are where it's at imo.

I think it also helps to read what Biblical scholars have to say (both the religious folk and the agnostics like Bart Ehrman). the latter is really eye-opening and he writes in a very easy to follow format for laymen.

the Bible is great

I suppose I could imagine reading an annotate edition, like "The Annotate Alice" or something. We're talking the Old Testament, right? I'd totally read that or the Koran, thought just a lifetime of Jew stuff, however casual, as exposed me to most of the former, I suspect.

I just read the dirty parts.

Well, yeah. I bet the copy fell right open to them.

The Bible contains both great literature and "pernicious nonsense" (I think that's a Penn Jillette quote, someone I'm generally not apt to quote)

it's more for me that I got my fill of it the 4 years I spent in a Fundie church and their stupid interpretation of it ruined the parts I liked even though I knew the Methodists (where I grew up) had a far more forgiving look at things.

but understanding what Fundies think about it, or Baptists, or any of the fire and brimstone crowd does allow you some deeper insight into why these people are so impossible to appease on everything.

When I started buying music in my teens, I was amazed at how many lyrics are straight lifts from or homages to Old and New Testament verse.

"Turn, Turn, Turn"!

"harvester of sorrow - language of the dead!" or wait was that lovecraft

"what you got i want to give it put it in you". no?

Metallica did have "Creeping Death" tho that was more the Bible by way of C.C. Demille

i.e. how most people know the Bible.

bible by way of cc deville

Didn't Jesus say "every rose has its thorn?" I think so.

it was close enough to get bill and ted into heaven iirc

I think I first heard the line that goes "wandering stars, to whom is reserved the blackness of darkness for ever" in Portishead. Then I read saw the same lines in Innocents Abroad, and thought it interesting that Mark Twain was into Portishead. It comes from the Book of Jude.

the Bible is what it is, people have used it for good and for evil. it's not a collection of magical words that turn normal people into assholes. it's been a cultural channel for thousands of years for all kinds of people spanning power structures from slave to king. if a Bible-literate atheist were to be politically active they would be far more effective in debating/illustrating the nuance than wholly rejecting it. seceding it wholly to fundies is the stupidest move possible but i know dems are all about them idiotic culture wars rn.

it's an arbitrary selection from thousands of Xtian writings.

personally I wish everybody's read the Infancy Gospel of Thomas, which is of course nonsense but p hilarious:

Most Delightfully Evil Thing Young Jesus Does in "The Infancy Gospel of Thomas" - a POLL

and god said unto moses 'it is what it is'

and Jesus said to the adoring crowd: "give a fan a fish and he will be fed for a day. Teach a man to fish, he'll be fed for a lifetime. This of course will not do, privatize fish IMO".

thou shalt not kill - and here's why

So, this Charlie Gard thing. He's going full fundie, right?

the prospect of trump helming a terri schiavo reboot is not a promising one, right enough

Unlike Schiavo, there's a natural limit, the 15 neonates with RRM2B-related encephalomyopathic mitochondrial DNA depletion have all died in months.

Glad the NHS is misspending scarce funds (keeping the kid on life support) to spare these parents of the circus of hope US Fundies would put them through.

I open the Trump thread and get 35 straight posts about the Bible? Fellas, he doesn't read.

http://www.academiccomposition.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/pot-kettle.jpg

preferring the Old Testament is fine but it's kind of a played-out opinion that ppl love to trot out for whatever reason. The New Testament is a fantastic read. The Gospel of John is a total headfuck to read right after the Synoptic Gospels. And the Pauline epistles are unrelenting.

The Old Testament gave me huge anxiety as a child

Like legit trepidation and fear.

uh yeah. on balance I wish I had never even heard of the bible.

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/513Xw6c1nAL.jpg

Adam otm

Xps

to swing things back toward the political zone a bit, i'm finishing up reza aslan's Zealot and would recommend it for anyone interested in actual jesus. it's written at about an 8th grade level so it's possible that someone like trump could actually get through a few paragraphs

people have used it for good and for evil

And to swat flies, and to prop up uneven table legs...

the thin pages of your typical gideon edition make reasonable rolling papers when you're in a jam iirc

LIFEHACK

it's written at about an 8th grade level so it's possible that someone like trump could actually get through a few paragraphs

Does it also have pictures, and include his name in bold print every third sentence or so?

his special edition will replace all mentions of jesus with 'trump'

YOU MENTALISTS

the point is that the doctor is being forced by his circumstances into reading a scripture he may well have little interest in sorting out

yet all around him are people with zero inclination to do that with his

> It is difficult to place Trump squarely within any of the known religiopolitical movements of his time. He was a man of profound contradictions, one day preaching a message of racial exclusion, the next, of benevolent universalism; sometimes calling for unconditional peace, sometimes promoting violence and conflict.

war is peace, iirc

he is large, multituding is easy.

cool party

Per Playbook, Jared and Ivanka were at a party in the Hamptons yesterday with George Soros and Schumer, hosted by a former owner of WaPo pic.twitter.com/xbOXPdQb33

— Ben Jacobs (@Bencjacobs) July 2, 2017

play everyone below you against each other, party in the hamptons together

that makes them smart

preferring the Old Testament is fine but it's kind of a played-out opinion that ppl love to trot out for whatever reason

not sure why you need to prefer one or the other. i find OT more interesting due to it 1) being more ancient 2) more derived from oral traditions (thus allowing for more interpretations) 3) is in origin the cultural tradition of a marginalized and oppressed people. its crazy how the words have been perverted extracted and idolized completely out of context by a political minority into slogans for anti human legislation. the religious left should step up and challenge the idea that fundies alone should define political and popular religious expression.

the religious left is too full of the milk of human kindness to get into an alley fight with the religious right

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/paloma/the-health-202/2017/07/03/the-health-202-trump-is-trying-to-blow-up-the-obamacare-strategy-he-pushed-for/59569696e9b69b7071abc9d1/?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_heath202-trumpstrategy-1056am%3Ahomepage%2Fstory

Spicer told the Financial Times that Trump is definitely not planning to visit the UK as part of his upcoming Euro trip. The official quote is, "While he looks forward to visiting the UK, it will not be in the next two weeks.” In other words, it's totally happening, so protesters, be ready!

May also claims to know nothing. Be prepared, as Trump won't understand the the two-fingered salute.

A Trump visit is the last thing May needs and has only been speculated because nobody knows what he is doing for four days. It's another case of The Independent chasing clicks.

I wouldn't bet against him turning up at his Scottish golf resort though.

Kilts and mooning are a natural fit.

A Trump visit is the last thing May needs and has only been speculated because nobody knows what he is doing for four days.

Nobody knows what the fucker is doing from hour to hour. (Except that he apparently spends 4-6 hours a day watching cable news.) But the "Trump's Razor" theory tells us that we should expect him to make the stupidest possible move at any given time. So if going to England will be the absolute worst thing for everyone involved, and set him up for a massive face-planting in front of the entire world's media, that's exactly what he will do. Get ready!

When yr discussing the Bible with bruneau he has already won, ppl

good weekend to nuke the Hamptons, as often as i've said that before

lmao if first news UK government has of Trump visit is from Aberdeen Airport air traffic control who say air force one is demanding permission to land

So proud to have Tammy Duckworth at our local parade this morning.

Lmao is first news UK gov has of trump visit is a radio message from Airforce one day that Nicola Sturgeon has denied permission to land and asking what 'get tae fook' means.

sturgeon's a manc?

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These threads ought to slow their velocity now that it is July 4 and the official Summertime Silly Season has begun. This won't stop Trump and his cohorts from doing stupid things, but it ought to deprive him of half his audience.

We need a statscock for monthly trump threads to see if things are getting bette for worse.

Spending my 4th in meetings all day. #ThanksNorthKorea

— Nikki Haley (@nikkihaley) July 4, 2017

Comments on that are wonderful.

Looks like Illinois senate just voted to override asshole gov's budget veto. Assuming it squeaks through the house tomorrow, that makes two troubled states recently sticking it to the stubborn GOP governor's draconian fiscal policy.

NPR has, line by line, been tweeting the full text of the Declaration of Independence today and MAGA people on twitter are going bonkers because they're all dumb as shit and think Trump is being personally attacked.

BTW, down to 1 carrier group in WestPac. Pyongyang is safe for a while.

I noticed that at least one US paper printed a free copy of the constitution as a free giveaway over the weekend. Would think most of the better ones might want to take the opportunity to make sure people had at least seen the thing. Before 45 suspends it or something.

Nowadays most people just read the constitution for the dirty parts.

the We the People and General Welfare stuff was just jokes

Guys did u know sepuratien of church n state is not in Constilution

i am such a strict originalist i don't care about well regulated militias

I can't be bothered to look at what everybody else had to say about Nikki's whining on twitter but suffice to say fuck that lazy cunt what job did you think were signing up for? the rest of the defense department, the state department, and DHS would also like to mention fuck you, and oh did those meetings occur in climate-controlled conference rooms in New York City? because also fuck you, and fuck you.

i agree with all of that, except that it legitimately needs several more fuck you's in it. fuck you nikki haley

My use of the c-word inspired more by regular cathartic reading of UK politics threads than any deep misogyny (I hope)

May I say, kudos for taking down the Confederate Flag over the SC capital, but otherwise, fuck you Haley.

My use of the c-word inspired more by regular cathartic reading of UK politics threads than any deep misogyny (I hope)

― El Tomboto, Tuesday, July 4, 2017 6:56 PM (forty minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

preemptively fp'd you anyway

Btw haley is garbage

I always get weirded out when americans use cunt as an epithet against women. For me its always been either one to use against men, or a more general aussie humour general people thing "hey you cunce" and so on.

I wince whenever I see/hear that word, but I get that in England it means the same thing as jerk or whatever.

Nikki Haley is bad of course. Nearly every Trump appointee is ridiculous.

boohoo, Nikki was gonna bbq

I get that in England it means the same thing as jerk or whatever.

lol, like hell!

plz read one Chaucer and note what "queynte" means.

our British cozzens don't have the PC stick inserted quite as far up their rectums, is all.

Fact I didn't know until I googled the Chaucerian word quoted above: 'quaint' and 'cunt' have the same etymology

It varies widely, unsurprisingly Scottish and Irish (and I assume Northern Irish?) are the same as Australia, elsewhere it's more shocking - in both cases applying it to a woman is a bold stance.

I'd say there's a class element too.

Chaucer is definitely a current writer using modern idiom, though.

Sometimes it means cunt

Scottish and Irish (and I assume Northern Irish?) are the same as Australia,

qft

I mean you know, we cant say it on the telly before the watershed or anything (...or at all? Not sure on that actually) but it can be used as a general term of affectionate abuse.

I'd say that jerk equivalence was pretty accurate, one meaning is despicable person though somewhat more pointedly.
Possibly more so than prick even. Like Cunt seems to be altogether wilful whereas prick might just be reflecting ineptitude.

TIL: While cunt is attested in its current meaning by 1230, Chaucer euphemistically punning with queint “a clever or curious device or ornament”.

You cunt make it up m8

Did most of those choads delete their tweets? Just scanned the NPR feed and its just people going, "Duh, its the Declaration Of Independence!"

cunt is an all-purpose noun in some parts of scotland tbh

a primary school teacher friend of mine had to take one of his pupils aside and tell him that 'cunt' wasn't appropriate language for the classroom and the kid was genuinely taken aback that the word was considered swearing at all

Lol

The kids lying

LOL

BREAKING: We filed complaint today alleging Kris Kobach violated Hatch Act by using work w/ sham Pence-Kobach Comm. to promote his candidacy

— Kristen Clarke (@KristenClarkeJD) July 3, 2017

It's like none of these people respect the fundamentals of our government or the rules the rest of us live by

omg trumpkins getting mad at the Declaration Of Independence is the funniest thing ever.

So North Korea

it's over there

I think we'll have to make concessions to them in order to stop their nuclear program, like we did in the 90s. "Pressure" from us will just make them more committed to getting long range nukes and "pressure" from China isn't happeninf. I don't think Trump will want to negotiate with Kim unless it's framed as the Super Bowl of deals or something.

All the projections say that even limited airstrikes against NK would lead to a catastrophe of an unimaginable scale. I don't envision that happening but who knows.

there's a non-zero possibility that trump would come out of any meeting with kim as a committed worker's party zealot and denounce the decadence of the west

Il Juche

"the guy makes some good points about tyranny!"

it's terrifying because it's a legit possibility. the guy thinks duterte is doing a great job

If Kim flattered Trump and focused on how very badly he was treated by Obama he could pull off something like that, possibly. He hooked Dennis Rodman, a smarter and better man than Trump.

oh to live in a world where the prospect of president rodman didn't sound like a more appealing proposition than the sitting premier

yes it's true, we live in a world where the president of the United States is Donald Trump and the most successful U.S. emissary to a dangerous dictatorship has been Dennis Rodman. that's something i just had to type out.

President Hillary Rodman-Clinton - it could still happen!

if she steps into Seth Brundle's machine sure

She could divorce Bill, marry Dennis Rodman, and hyphenate. Done!

And then she can say she did it all to gain access to North Korea, and save the world. She would sacrifice everything ... for us.

And then she would run again in 2020 and lose.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fumChF0Skg

He is not well... It's fairly clear. And the stresses of the job won't do him good for the next three and a half years.

no offense but videos like that and the speculation they invite really fucking annoy me

first of all, even assuming the worst it's not that bad. a man exits a plane and walks in the wrong direction for 5 seconds and then changes course and walks in a different direction. could this be a clue?!!??!?!?!?!
more importantly, we don't know what's going on off-camera. maybe one of his team of dipshits beckoned to him on one side of the plane, before another dipshit redirected him in another direction? it could be all sorts of things. it's just not a big deal. god, if there were a camera on me all the time with that much scrutiny i'd probably the the subject of a dozen videos per day. zach walked to the kitchen, opened the fridge door, grabbed some hot sauce and returned to the couch, but then he walked BACK to the kitchen to grab a glass of water. why didn't he do both at the same time? is he mentally ill?!? is he fit to be the kind of person who walks around a household?!!??!!

it's just so so so so not important and completely speculative

Jet plane fuels conspiracies

libs focusing on trivia; strange, has never happened before

first of all, even assuming the worst it's not that bad. a man exits a plane and walks in the wrong direction for 5 seconds and then changes course and walks in a different direction. could this be a clue?!!??!?!?!?!
more importantly, we don't know what's going on off-camera. maybe one of his team of dipshits beckoned to him on one side of the plane, before another dipshit redirected him in another direction? it could be all sorts of things. it's just not a big deal. god, if there were a camera on me all the time with that much scrutiny i'd probably the the subject of a dozen videos per day. zach walked to the kitchen, opened the fridge door, grabbed some hot sauce and returned to the couch, but then he walked BACK to the kitchen to grab a glass of water. why didn't he do both at the same time? is he mentally ill?!? is he fit to be the kind of person who walks around a household?!!??!!

you don't like Oliver Stone's JFK, do you

Ugh, I already regret posting that, it's nothing against you j in chi, I'm just grumpy. Lord Baal knows I've posted my fair share of dumb shit over the years much worse than that.

you're not wrong.

But KM that's exactly the kind of melodrama based on nothing that Trump's reality show loving fans eat up. They're more likely to see that as evidence of him being unfit to lead than a exhaustively researched article about his shady behavior with his businesses or Russia etc.

Basically my point being that the people who edit reality shows have ruined the country.

trump's reality show loving fans are unlikely to ever see that video and if they do happen across it they'll dismiss it as FAKE NEWS and go back to picking their scabs or whatever

the people who edit reality shows have ruined the country

truth bomb

xpost No offense taken. Obviously someone else captured and posted that on youtube, not me. That said, this is not the first time he's done that.

I'm not saying it would actually change anything in reality, just talking about what people pay attention to/absorb/are programmed to care about.

xps

That said, there does seem to be ample anecdotal evidence that stairs throw him off.

woke-reality pods are the new reality shows #dealwithitshadedog

44 states rejecting voter data request, only 6 are still "undecided" about what to do

Six states have not yet said what they'll do:

Arkansas
Florida
Hawaii
Illinois
Nebraska
New Jersey https://t.co/5UqSkBJAtV

— Dale Ho (@dale_e_ho) July 5, 2017

i hope at least these six do the right thing and enable mr. trump's voter suppression efforts!

other than FL, are any of those considered to be states that can tip the EC balance?

Rick Scott's running for senator. I suspect he'll join the list.

on the bright side of ICBMs

i love reading CNBC because it's a perfect distillation of capitalism without any bullshit liberal filler pic.twitter.com/mQvzgNMnOT

— Adam H. Johnson (@adamjohnsonNYC) July 5, 2017

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htsU7DEm5v4

In other media news: NYT appears to have fallen for the parody North Korea Twitter account pic.twitter.com/TdkJjnmD6b

— Alex Griswold (@HashtagGriswold) July 5, 2017

LOL - nice burn, hillz!

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/hillary-clinton-gop-healthcare-plan-article-1.3303758?cid=bitly

but her emails!

sweet mary and joseph

https://www.yahoo.com/news/doj-letter-may-more-alarming-195813171.html

Trumpers clinging really heavily to this CNN blackmail story, which is just so incredibly desperate

CNN are fair game, they're such assholes they've managed to look worse than a fucking meme making MAGA chud.

How have CNN managed to look worse?

CNN is not publishing "HanA**holeSolo's" name because he is a private citizen who has issued an extensive statement of apology, showed his remorse by saying he has taken down all his offending posts, and because he said he is not going to repeat this ugly behavior on social media again. In addition, he said his statement could serve as an example to others not to do the same.

CNN reserves the right to publish his identity should any of that change.

this is the quote in question.

in a post violentacrez world, redditors shouldn't take their anonymity for granted. but you know, that paragraph is hilariously thuggish.

CNN is not publishing "HanA**holeSolo's" name because he is a private citizen who has issued an extensive statement of apology, showed his remorse by saying he has taken down all his offending posts, and because he said he is not going to repeat this ugly behavior on social media again. In addition, he said his statement could serve as an example to others not to do the same.
CNN reserves the right to publish his identity should any of that change.

Nice anonymity you got there, be a shame if anything... happened to it.

I mean, fuck the chud in question obviously. But CNN clearly being thugs here.

ha xp, thuggish is the exact word

I'm emphatically not a 'they go low we go high' kind of guy, so if a chekist like me thinks you've gone too far...

Ack, didn't see that quote.

http://edition.cnn.com/videos/politics/2017/07/06/trump-poland-russia-election-obama-sot.cnn

god smite this awful cunt

As others have noted, it's quite remarkable how much he still blames shit on Hillary or Obama. What a venal, defensive piece of shit.

just to get this straight, is he saying that the election *that he won* was rigged by foreign powers?

Who can say, right?

Well, he would've won 250% of the vote if not for those meddling foreign powers.

This right here seems like the real news of the day

Felix Sater agrees to co-operate in money-laundering probe https://t.co/Z7Pxfj3hWY

— Blake Hounshell (@blakehounshell) July 6, 2017

Given Sater's role on the money front all this time, well before the presidential campaign, watching what happens next on this front will be key.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/7/5/15802616/bernie-sanders-2020

I actually really liked this. And is there any chance his age could be a sorta positive thing, if he chose the right running mate? Like Nina Turner, not known enough to win the nomination on her own, but as a running mate, wouldn't she do a lot of good in shoring up the base?

It has raised questions about what steps Mr Trump has taken to check whether tainted funds are coursing through his properties.

I could hazard a guess: none.

With Sanders’s strong support of Heath Mello’s ultimately failed bid to become mayor of Omaha, his growing prominence has even become a reed of hope for America’s long-suffering anti-abortion Democrats, who argue with some plausibility that ideological flexibility on this topic is integral to securing congressional majorities.

Hahahahah get fucked.

Nice anonymity you got there, be a shame if anything... happened to it.

I mean, fuck the chud in question obviously. But CNN clearly being thugs here.

it sounds like anyone could've found this guy's real name in 5 minutes given the details in his Reddit account. I'm not exactly stanning for CNN here but if threatening to expose a dude for being a Nazi in public sounds as "thuggish behavior" then I don't even know anymore.

Ya maybe ur right, I'm not hard to convince in cases like this. At any rate, perhaps (fat chance) it will be teachable moment for a Trumper to find himself grovelling to a powerful corporation out of fear lol

I like how they demanded a formal apology as a condition of not doxing him even though it's obvious he doesn't mean it. Like a show trial.

In any case the media's codependent relationship with Trump was more responsible for his victory than any of these anime nazis. CNN made a billion dollars in profit last year, a 19% increase from 2015.

How on earth is it obvious he doesn't mean it, Treeship? Are you a mindreader?

Fred are you literally suggesting Bernie run a morbid Lessig campaign because he'll be likely to become unfit for office or die after inauguration? WTF?

Also this is a dude who could not win in the primaries against "the most unpopular candidate ever" so I do not at all understand suggesting him as viable for 2020 on any grounds really other than strictly emotional ones

I'm not sure if they demanded an apology; didn't the guy himself say that CNN wasn't strongarming him? more likely the dude just became desperate when he realized that a lifetime of posting Nazi shit on the internet might actually have a real-world consequence. strange, I know...

I don't for a second believe Trump is smart enough to be doing this on purpose, but he really is doing a pretty good job of compelling the MSM to fight with him on his terms. I mean, I understand he's in Eastern Europe and about to meet with Putin, but the fact that the big story right now is his answer to a question about Russian interference in the election...I mean, at this point what percentage of Americans really give a fuck about this issue? I think the vast majority of people consider this whole thing a sideshow and are tuning it out accordingly, which only benefits a president who is desperate to undermine the media. And they just can't help taking the bait time and time again.

x-posts: Lol. No, but every vice presidential candidate ever has been chosen to 'shore up' some constituency, and might that not work better for an older candidate? Also, the runner up is quite often the frontrunner next time, and Clinton was stunningly popular for a long time, until it all collapsed.

Age aside, I feel like Bernie would do much better in a second election. Many people were just discovering his existence as he was running, as opposed to the two well-known public figures who became the eventual nominees.

Not advocating Bernie running again, fyi.

He might win

Depends, how is his reality show faring?

speaking of Depends...

I'm willing to believe CNN when they say that the dude apologized first, and they made a decision to respect his privacy, though they weren't under any obligation to do so. And they wanted to state that there was no deal to keep his info private in exchange for the apology, and they inadvertently phrased this really badly. Mostly because I can't really envision CNN being that effectively ruthless, but they are pretty dumb most of the time.

https://blogs.chapman.edu/wilkinson/2016/10/11/americas-top-fears-2016/

Re: Russia, a huge percentage of Americans care deeply (or claim to care) about corruption among government officials. The key to making the Russia thing stick is to frame it as an issue of corruption, rather than appealing to patriotism or constantly shouting "traitor" as a lot of twitter weirdos seem to be doing

"Corrupt government officials" seems like a pretty squishy category. That's obviously not just Russia. It's also "the establishment," "the insiders" and the swamp Trump is supposedly busy draining.

"they're ALL corrupt" etc

Hillary was the most corrupt presidential candidate in history, let's not forget

we'd be on the brink of war if she'd been elected

i heard a few people say in earnest that Hillary was "the most corrupt politician of all-time."

But the joke was on all of them, because now they know more than they ever wanted to know about the Teapot Dome scandal

i hope mr. trump's six-month review with his supervisor, mr. putin, goes well!

DOE Rick Perry at coal plant:"Here’s a little economics lesson: supply and demand. You put the supply out there and the demand will follow."

— Taylor Kuykendall (@taykuy) July 6, 2017

hope he was wearing his glasses while he schooled everyone

Fuuuuuuuuuck

Seriously?

well, he was a governor, he would know things.

hahahaha

https://i.makeagif.com/media/10-14-2015/0piIiO.gif

Nothing means anything anymore, just say whatever you feel, it's cool.

I don't even know why we use stupid words anymore, it's almost like we forgot that god gave us middle fingers.

I never even knew I wanted coal until there were piles of it up and down my street

And heading up the EPA... : Braniac

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DEDJuSoXsAAvgmc.jpg

well the Poles sent some guys to Jeff Davis, right

plz no sarcasm about the US "on the brink of war," war is our leading industry

at least it's war to those who die

These never get old.

#Trump left hanging when President #Duda's wife Agata Kornhauser-Duda walks past him as he tries to shake her hand. pic.twitter.com/c2TSQLEKmR

— Jeffrey Guterman (@JeffreyGuterman) July 6, 2017

actualol

hahahahaha

lol @ his face

well, she's only like a 6 or 6.5, so whatevs.

ha he immediately went to a "oh, this shit again" face

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DEEGJDnWAAAG168.jpg

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/07/04/politics/justice-hui-chen-resignation/index.html

Polish first lady looks like she rehearsed that move.

https://newrepublic.com/minutes/143739/dont-listen-mark-penn

well tbf

Local Customs and Considerations for Travel in Poland
Etiquette
Some men, particularly older men, may kiss a woman's hand when greeting or saying goodbye. Kissing a woman's hand is considered to be chivalrous by some, but is more and more often seen as outdated. Handshakes are quite common; however, it is very important to remember that men should not offer their hand to a woman - a handshake is only considered polite if the woman offers her hand to the man first. For a more heartfelt greeting or goodbye, close friends of opposite sex or two women will hug and kiss three times, alternating cheeks.

Local Customs and Considerations for Travel in Poland Etiquette Some men, particularly older men, may kiss a woman's hand when greeting or saying goodbye. Kissing a woman's hand is considered to be chivalrous by some, but is more and more often seen as outdated. Handshakes are quite common; however, it is very important to remember that men should not offer their hand to a woman - a handshake is only considered polite if the woman offers her hand to the man first. For a more heartfelt greeting or goodbye, close friends of opposite sex or two women will hug and kiss three times, alternating cheeks.

sorry for the double copy paste on there

POTUS Briefing on Social Etiquette in Poland, July 6, 2017, 7:30 AM

it is very important to remember that men should not offer their hand to a woman - a handshake is only considered polite if the woman offers her hand to the man first.
it is very important to remember that men should not offer their hand to a woman - a handshake is only considered polite if the woman offers her hand to the man first.
it is very important to remember that men should not offer their hand to a woman - a handshake is only considered polite if the woman offers her hand to the man first.
it is very important to remember that men should not offer their hand to a woman - a handshake is only considered polite if the woman offers her hand to the man first.
it is very important to remember that DONALD TRUMP should not offer their hand to a woman - a handshake by DONALD TRUMP is only considered polite if the woman offers her hand to DONALD TRUMP first.

Local Customs and Considerations for Travel in Poland
Etiquette
Some men, particularly older men, may kiss a woman's hand when greeting or saying goodbye. Kissing a woman's hand is considered to be chivalrous by some, but is more and more often seen as outdated. Handshakes are quite common; however, it is very important to remember that men should not offer their hand to a woman - a handshake is only considered polite if the woman offers her hand to the man first. For a more heartfelt greeting or goodbye, close friends of opposite sex or two women will hug and kiss three times, alternating cheeks.

Local Customs and Considerations for Travel in Poland Etiquette Some men, particularly older men, may kiss a woman's hand when greeting or saying goodbye. Kissing a woman's hand is considered to be chivalrous by some, but is more and more often seen as outdated. Handshakes are quite common; however, it is very important to remember that men should not offer their hand to a woman - a handshake is only considered polite if the woman offers her hand to the man first. For a more heartfelt greeting or goodbye, close friends of opposite sex or two women will hug and kiss three times, alternating cheeks.

of course the White House would know this if anyone worked at the State Department.

that's way too many shitloads for a fuckton

is that a Harpers' "Findings"? It sure reads like one.

Ugh we're going to get rolled. Tillerson is a fucking incompetent lightweight.

Per @jonathanvswan, likely the only other people in Trump-Putin meeting will be Tillerson, Lavrov and translators https://t.co/i7Pk4kiRWc

— Bradd Jaffy (@BraddJaffy) July 6, 2017

i started wondering about slovenian and slavic connections- found it has been considered: http://fusion.kinja.com/how-immigrants-like-melania-trump-became-white-1793860919

https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/one-reason-the-gop-health-bill-is-such-a-mess-they-didnt-think-trump-would-win/2017/07/06/bed6a8e0-624a-11e7-8adc-fea80e32bf47_story.html?utm_term=.a80bf1908cef

Haha

christ on a fucking cracker, these lazy dipshits had YEARS to come up with something

The White House waited too long to book a hotel in Hamburg, forcing Trump to stay at the Senate guesthouse, while his staff sleeps at the US Consulate.

If only he had some pull in the hotel industry.

THE DEALMAKER

Tremble: http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/07/10/americas-future-is-texas

Nearly every state in America is Texas, with one or two Austins each.

That article has got a lot of neat info about Texas politics, but the title seems like it was chosen by someone who hadn't actually read it.

http://www.businessinsider.com/trump-taj-mahal-atlantic-city-holding-liquidation-sale-2017-7

TBH I stopped reading it after 15 pages maybe, when I realized a), there was a whole lot more, and b), it was pretty much just an article about Texas politics.

December 2002 "The future is Texas" - http://www.economist.com/node/1487487

July 2009 https://images1.dallasobserver.com/imager/u/original/7130467/economistcovercaliforniatexaseconomy.jpg

August 2012 - http://www.dallasobserver.com/news/california-is-now-creating-more-jobs-than-texas-7130468

it's like, uh, like a pendulum or something.

JUST IN: McConnell concedes GOP may not be able to repeal ObamaCare https://t.co/tL55aaY3I5 pic.twitter.com/XnaGyOiggU

— The Hill (@thehill) July 6, 2017

p thin "admission" but given how tight-lipped he is this is probably indicative of ... something

Who could have predicted this would happen?

no one knew it was this complicated folks

They should just explain to everyone that once they get the supply going, the demand will follow. That's economics, folks.

GOP health bill is a mess because no one thought Trump would win

Republican leaders expected Hillary Clinton to become president, and that left them paralyzed about how to proceed when she didn’t.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/one-reason-the-gop-health-bill-is-such-a-mess-they-didnt-think-trump-would-win/2017/07/06/bed6a8e0-624a-11e7-8adc-fea80e32bf47_story.html

If only they had SIX ENTIRE YEARS TO WORK SOMETHING OUT???

It's much easier to toss bricks when you are outside glass houses.

the other reason their bill is a mess is that there aren't actually any great ways to get more people health care that involve spending less money without the government getting involved. it really doesn't matter how much time they prepare a health care bill, that will always be the case.

Huh. Republicans creating a workable healthcare bill would be an act of self-annihilation.

Not sure it'd be any different with the current incarnation of the Democrats, either. Wonder why it hasn't happened yet. All the non-ghoul Americans are on their own, so what to do about that.

The New York Times and the Democrats are trying to build and secure their base of the well-to-do who have a philosophy pretty similar to the Republicans on this front. https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/10/opinion/sunday/stop-pretending-youre-not-rich.html

At the very least, they see a threat's out there. And what's that threat? People demanding a humane quality of life. Ohohohohohoh, so horrible!

oh good I'm glad your opinions are finally here

Hey man, I've seen too much fucked up shit under both the Republicans and Democrats philosophies. I'd be a monster if I didn't speak out about it.

Meanwhile, for what it's worth, Illinois, with the help of both Democrats and Republicans (though of course mostly the former) overrode the disliked GOP gov's veto to pass its first budget in two years, I think the longest any state has ever gone with no budget. This came not long after Dems and Republicans overrode the disastrous Kansas GOP governor's budget veto, and after the disliked GOP governors of Maine and New Jersey lost their own budget battles, ending their respective shutdowns. Something's afoot. At the least, just saying no turns out to be a pretty shitty way to run a government.

Hey man, I've seen too much fucked up shit under both the Republicans and Democrats philosophies. I'd be a monster if I didn't speak out about it.

― jenkem street team (carpet_kaiser), Thursday, July 6, 2017

Well, cool, I'm glad you've been able to marry your gay boyfriend and get Medicaid expansion under GOP presidents.

Lol

Alright, Democrats aren't as bad as Republicans in total, but that creates a dangerous situation since the only other alternative we've got are the Republicans. "You want some of this nice stuff? Well, you gotta take all our shit, too, fuckface."

I'm learning things today.

where's that stupid mind explosion gif

Got mine, fuck you. It's a sentiment shared by both Republicans and Democrats. Just different constituencies.

How long do you think that can last? It's a mindset that's not going to create a more humane society, just one with yet more tribes who fight each other with increasing violence.

"HURRRR all this unrest, this anger, this misery, where's that coming from?" I guess nowhere, according to you guys. Guess what exists doesn't, because the desire to pretend it doesn't. Whatever.

Iago Galdston was more fun iirc

It's because this isn't fun. Maybe it is for you. I just remember the elderly woman who was tossed to a hospital who got drugged to death because she was an inconvenience. Watching her mind and health decline, while Republicans beat their chest in euphoria, and Democrats say "hey, not me!" and cover themselves in piety.

Maybe you could teach me a thing or two about blood lust hidden in costume, Democrat style.

It's related because both Republicans and Democrats both hold fast the ideology of free market Capitalism, a hierarchy based on the "best use" of humanity decided top down. And that use is profit. The unprofitable must be eliminated. Nothing different b/t the two parties there, gay marriage or not. Luxury laid on bones.

Is this some kind of Carlin bit.

No, it's haunting shit I've seen that I can't stop thinking about.

Hey larry appleton.

I actually agree that there are inherently fucked up aspects of society that our political system is structurally unable to address, which has rendered us vulnerable to nihilism.

I don't think this justified the nihilism though.

What this is isn't nihilism. We've seen it before, it's just learned from experience.

Just imagine what you could learn from the experience of being launched into space.

It's an onion, it has many layers within layers, and will drive you to tears when you try to slice the whole goddamn thing open.

Who Is Kaiser Carpet?

WHO IS MIKE JOOOOOONES

sorry, i just had a flashback to an old promo cd

MIKE JO-JOOONES

out on the road today
i saw a deadhead sticker on a cadillac

kaiser otm tho

kaiser otm, yes

Holy shit. Republicans are buying stocks to profit from their plan to kill hundreds of thousands of poor Americans. https://t.co/WW7iVkLjAI pic.twitter.com/7SN2t4wvUs

— sean. (@SeanMcElwee) July 6, 2017

The GOP show great respect to their prey by making use of every part of America's corpse.

"savvy" is an interesting term. I would've used "vile."

Such a fine line between savvy and vile...

savvile

None So Savvile

(forgot GOTT PUNCH is the only one who will get that. oh well)

@realDonaldTrump
Everyone here is talking about why John Podesta refused to give the DNC server to the FBI and the CIA. Disgraceful!

sure dumbass they are really talking about this right now in the EU. gtfo you stupid dick

Dark and bitter lolz, Old Lunch. Nose to tail.

pic.twitter.com/WAf4iAQqhE

— Gourmet Spud (@gourmetspud) July 7, 2017

how can this be a Pres
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P17l2Tw4qO4

attempt to troll the Trumps on climate fails

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-07-06/merkel-s-man-shows-trump-s-women-climate-change-president-denies

xp watchin them stairs

Damn, when you're getting yelled at by John Podesta, it's time to take a breather.

Podesta tweetstorm to Trump: “Get a grip man, the Russians committed a crime when they stole my emails to help get you elected President.” pic.twitter.com/vISIa0iOl7

— Bradd Jaffy (@BraddJaffy) July 7, 2017

Bild: Protesters beset Melania Trumps hotel

Reportedly more police and military are converging on Hamburg from all over Germany.

Yeah a friend of mine with antifa connections was wondering why they picked Hamburg of all places, unless shit kicking off is the plan.

trump has a point that better relations with russia aren't a bad thing. however, it's true not in the way he intends and also is the last person who should be coordinating it

Largely because improving US/Russian relations isn't as much the goal as improving Trump/Russian relations.

Mansplaining, G20 style. Watch Angela Merkel’s eye-roll. pic.twitter.com/PXEI0WxyYH

— SimonNRicketts (@SimonNRicketts) July 7, 2017

unless shit kicking off is the plan.

a colleague indicated to me yesterday that german intelligence and law enforcement are certainly preparing as if it is

Spiegel has some live feeds: http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/g-20-newsblog-in-english-protests-as-world-leaders-meet-in-hamburg-a-1156308.html

Russia flussia, the real villain is the 1%

Why not both?

false choice, the answer is emails and bros and nazis and twitters and wikis and our stars

Leakers and fraudy voters

And unmaskers of course

so I noticed Trump didn't do the gorilla power handshake thing with Putin, I wonder why???

Apparently Trump 'accepted Putin's assurances that Russia didn't meddle in the U.S. election' =|

BREAKING: Russian foreign minister says Trump accepted Putin's assurances that Russia didn't meddle in the U.S. election.

— The Associated Press (@AP) July 7, 2017

Ok we're good. Thank god

Trump didn't do the gorilla power handshake thing with Putin, I wonder why???

note: mindset improvement opp

NEW: Admin official disputes FM Lavrov's assertion that Trump accepted Putin's assurances that Russia didn't meddle in US election.

— Peter Alexander (@PeterAlexander) July 7, 2017

(So look for Trump to say otherwise on Twitter tomorrow.)

Russian foreign minister says Trump accepted Putin's assurances that Russia didn't meddle in the U.S. election.

Putin, in turn, accepted Trump's balls in a ring box.

This reads...unusually.

Putin and Trump had such intense level of engagement neither wanted to stop, Tillerson says. 1st Lady came to interrupt, but went hour more.

— Jennifer Jacobs (@JenniferJJacobs) July 7, 2017

Tillerson says Trump and Putin didn't see much value in "relitigating of the past" and want to start making the US-Russia relationship work.

— Mark Knoller (@markknoller) July 7, 2017

Trump especially sees little value in relitigating the rolling disaster that made his stupid ass president

Two most powerful beings in earth history - and both twats

on the other hand it's nice that he's got a friend now

"donny, i know how to make this work. u see, _I_ get poland, _u_ get luxembourg, _I_ get ukraine, _u_ get andorra, _I_ get baltic states, _u_ get north korea-- jk lol kim is in timeout, like, forever, that is worst punishment."

on the other hand it's nice that he's got a friend now

Bibi forgotten already

NEW: Admin official disputes FM Lavrov's assertion that Trump accepted Putin's assurances that Russia didn't meddle in US election.

this shit is so embarrassing

putin wrestles alligators, has more nukes, more money, and more vassals than bibi. of course trump would like putin better.

who you gonna believe, donnie baby, a mere kenyan's FBI and NSA, or me, vladimir? now have another scoop :)

this shit is so embarrassing

the purported events, or the coverage of them?

i send bibi govt $, but vlad gets checks from my accounts, but only until we can move some stuff around.

"With the normalization of Trump’s antics, it is unfortunately all too easy to overlook the sheer rottenness of Mitch McConnell."

http://www.mikelofgren.net/mitch-mcconnells-sinister-role-in-the-russian-hacks/

^ article identifies McConnell as a shitbag, which we all knew already. but its case for McConnell committing treason is worthless.

McConnell's putrefying mug alone makes it difficult to overlook his rottenness.

http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/what-russian-journalists-think-of-how-american-reporters-cover-putin-and-trump/

^ good corrective to the "putin the chess player" vibe of a lot of russia reporting

This goes way past dog whistle... https://t.co/9VJoPFEsEM

— Christopher Hayes (@chrislhayes) July 7, 2017

On the whole, said Mikhail Zygar, a political journalist and the author of “All the Kremlin’s Men,” a well-sourced insider look at the cloistered world of Russian politics, the way the U.S. media has covered the Russia scandal has made “Putin seem to look much smarter than he is, as if he operates from some master plan.” The truth, Zygar told me, “is that there is no plan—it’s chaos.”

By way of an example, Zygar narrated what he saw as the total disorder that has marked Russia’s military campaign in Syria, which began with a surprise incursion of air power, in September, 2015. Putin seems to consider the intervention a success, because it outmaneuvered Western attempts to isolate him and elevated him to the position of global statesman; but, whatever the achievements, they came out of an absolutely slapdash policy, according to Zygar. “Nothing was calculated,” Zygar said. “There was no strategy, no preparatory work, no coördination with Iran, none with Turkey either, which is how we almost ended up in a war—not to mention the huge amount of money that was simply stolen in the course of this operation.”

According to Zygar’s sources, Putin forced Russia’s military prosecutor into retirement, in April, before he could deliver a report to the country’s upper house of parliament that would have revealed substantial financial losses in Syria due to corruption. Such cynicism and malfeasance is more the rule than the exception, Zygar said. He retold the story of how Putin showed Oliver Stone a video that was supposedly of Russian forces bombing ISIS fighters—“our aviation at work,” Putin told Stone—which turned out to be a lifted clip from 2013 of U.S. pilots attacking Taliban positions in Afghanistan. Zygar shook his head with laughter. “They couldn’t even film a two-minute video!”

gee who does this sound like

jfc at that Palin tweet

Agreed, the Putin-as-mastermind thing I don't buy. Ultimately it's just mutual levels of fronting for perceived home audiences.

i don't understand it.

Trump Gives Speech to the People of Poland, Says 14 Words That Leave Americans Stunned https://t.co/8iKHEQemn9

— Sarah Palin (@SarahPalinUSA) July 7, 2017

the purported events, or the coverage of them?

― Karl Malone,

the events

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourteen_Words

oh.

i want to go back to 20 seconds ago, when i didn't know what that meant

loool ugh me too

john podesta's gonna get benghazi'd by gowdy, isn't he :(

what?

https://youtu.be/WEeS-gXkfY4?t=18

Putin looking OLD

hfs i just learned some white supremacist bullshit hatespeech. i spent like 30 seconds counting words and was like 13, 15, 13, 12 wtf he didn't say 14 fucking words wtf is this?

know your enemies, folks

added Palin's tweet to the Wikipedia article. how long before some asshole reverts it

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourteen_Words

since it's not signed "SP" it's probably an intern that wrote it who will be of course thrown under the bus

looks like it's already been expunged.

yup. I undid the undo...lolz. not a fight worth fighting but hey

I'm always surprised at the tenacity of wikipedia editors - especially on such trivial topics like "Is this band NOTABLE enough for wikipedia!?!?"

who cares

(The Sarah Palin tweets link to this article is tenuous and speculative currently. If there is some sort of confirmation, it could be readded.) (undo)

"Yes, I meant it as a White Power allusion" - an admission that is not coming. hence why they're dog whistles.

I got this for trying to make a page for a Howlin' Wolf record!

This submission's references do not adequately show the subject's notability. Wikipedia requires significant coverage (not just mere mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject—see the guidelines on the notability of music-related topics, the golden rule and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue.

WTF!

unfortunately paywalled, but this was a good article on wikipedia's deletionists iirc http://www.nybooks.com/articles/2008/03/20/the-charms-of-wikipedia/

our only hope

http://hanlepedia.wikia.com/wiki/Hanlepedia_Wiki

meanwhile, I posted a reference on a song's page that my friend and three other people sang the song at karaoke at a local bar to see how long it would stay up, and it stayed on the page for like 3 months

TILLERSON: The two leaders also acknowledged the challenges of cyberthreats and interference in the democratic processes of the United States and other countries and agreed to explore creating a framework around which the two countries can work together to better understand how to deal with the cyberthreats, both in terms of how these tools are used to interfere with the internal affairs of countries, but also how these tools are used to threaten infrastructure, how these tools are used from a terrorism standpoint as well.

Mr. Arsonist can you help us fireproof our home?

I have read somewhere that you can easily get aroudn the notability guidelines if you know how - ie. if you can cite "sources" that mention you in some way even if you are nto well known at all

"i actually meant his 13 word sentence about the west's fight against extremism, but mis-counted. duh, me. sorry! ~shrug emoticon~"

xxpost I was thinking more along the lines of offering 'protection' because it sure would be a shame if something unfortunate were to happen to that country you have there, comrade. But arsonist metaphor also works.

too bad two scoops didn't go more alpha on the handshake

http://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/twitter-disappointed-over-historic-but-normal-trump-putin-handshake-at-g20/story-8ybZr1t6R7irL6wTARKhiL.html

I have to say I absolutely love the nickname Donnie Two-Scoops. Way better than Drumpf or Cheeto Jesus or whatever else I've heard.

yeah it's my preferred nomenclature, reminiscent of a shitty Dick Tracy villain

TILLERSON: The two leaders also acknowledged the challenges of cyberthreats and interference in the democratic processes of the United States and other countries and agreed to explore creating a framework around which the two countries can work together to better understand how to deal with the cyberthreats, both in terms of how these tools are used to interfere with the internal affairs of countries, but also how these tools are used to threaten infrastructure, how these tools are used from a terrorism standpoint as well.

Ironically, Russia and China have been pressing for a dedicated international treaty covering cyber security for years (and have signed a bilateral one covering it) but the US has always resisted - either because they think it is better to fit cyber crime, espionage, etc, into the existing framework of international law or because they don't want to limit their own offensive capabilities, depending on who you ask.

this seems pretty convincing as an explanation of Palin's 14 words tweet (explanation but not really exculpation given that this is surely an occupational hazard of retweeting articles from crypto-nazi websites)

http://www.thedailybeast.com/heres-why-sarah-palin-tweeted-the-neo-nazi-slogan-14-words?via=twitter_page

Palin did not immediately return requests for comment on the matter, but the answer for her social-media captions more realistically lies in the Young Conservative website’s backend.

While the headline and the article’s URL make no mention of the neo-Nazi phrase, one astute Twitter user pointed out that the manually selected Facebook caption—which automatically comes up when a user clicks the “Share” button on YoungCon’s website—contains the “14 words” reference.

Donnie Two Scoops loves the cyber!

xp

ironies abound. to think that after all this time and patriotic chest beating the republicans, not the democrats, would sell out to russia is just too much :)

It's no exaggeration to say a vote for Republicans is a vote to not cure Alzheimer's https://t.co/CGlOXofpMb pic.twitter.com/N4MDbOpBy1

— Jon Schwarz (@tinyrevolution) July 7, 2017

That clearly is an exaggeration

The only problem with this is that it'll piss off Merle's shade when Trump ends up signing it.

Looks like next week, House is considering HR 1988, a bill to name a post office in Bakersfield, Calif. after MERLE HAGGARD

🤠

— Jake Holzman (@jacob_holzman) July 7, 2017

A thing I learnt today:

Hamburg still has cobblestones

what's underneath

The three original Beatles.

The three original Beatles.

The three original Beatles.

The three original Beatles.

The three original Beatles.

xpost The three original Beatles.

but Yoko is not dead.

Remember when they brought Paul & Ringo & Patty & Yoko onstage at E3? That was weird, wasn't it?

aw man i was kinda hoping the next three years of trump threads could just be us endlessly posting "The three original Beatles."

This has been making the rounds lately, a rare rocking later-era Ringo performance with no second drummer, er, ringer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E33EVRy1r34

(Alas, Ringo was not an original Beatle)

Or I should say, not one of the three original Beatles.

The three original Beatles.

http://i.imgur.com/Ep39pua.jpg

Working like a dog.

http://images.eil.com/large_image/THE_BEATLES_DIE%2BBEATLES%2BUND%2BIHRE%2BSONGS%2B-%2BBAND%2B3%2B-%2BORIGINAL-335443.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DD61d-lUMAEK5VY.jpg:large

there's three of them
but they're not the Beatles

The Walrus Was Donnie Two-Scoops

flabby toad

Suddenly I understand why he won't have dinner with a woman who isn't his wife. pic.twitter.com/Vk2BLDRadR

— shauna (@goldengateblond) July 7, 2017

That's what they get for putting it in scare quotes.

Ironically, Russia and China have been pressing for a dedicated international treaty covering cyber security for years (and have signed a bilateral one covering it) but the US has always resisted - either because they think it is better to fit cyber crime, espionage, etc, into the existing framework of international law or because they don't want to limit their own offensive capabilities, depending on who you ask.

TBF China puts the suppression on free speech on the internet squarely in he hands of its cyber security administration so it's unlikely any kind of satisfactory Tracey could be concluded.

that satisfactory tracey in full

https://img1.od-cdn.com/ImageType-100/0290-1/%7B2C9D973A-EF08-4E83-877A-E43F19E2116C%7DImg100.jpg

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/politics/donald-trump-g20-latest-blocking-communique-line-about-climate-change-a7830271.html?cmpid=facebook-post

Trump is having bilateral meetings at G20 this morning so the US is being represented at the Leaders table discussions by...Ivanka.

And replaces Pres Trump at the #G20 table as he leaves for bilateral meetings pic.twitter.com/Hf1zfGQeIP

— Svetlana Lukash (@LanaLukash) July 8, 2017

Messed up.

Imagine Hillary getting Chelsea to sub in for her.

How is it that she hasn't been asked to leave. Is she in any way an official representative?

She has a job in the administration.

I would have thought that levels of clearance to be even in a room with that bunch of heads of state would be really exclusive. & being the daughter and wife of known felons might just count against one.

Would be lovely if outcry from this lead to something actually being done about things.
But looks like the others didn't object.
Is that a sign of things being normalized that really shouldn't be? Outrage fatigue?

This Politico piece is depressing and scary. Welcome back to the 19th Century, folks - but this time we've got nukes!

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/07/us/politics/republicans-health-care-bill.html?smid=tw-nytimes&smtyp=cur

I assume the G20 leaders have all seen this sort of thing before, just not from us.

The readout of Trump’s lengthy meeting with Putin included several key points. First, the United States will “move on” from election hacking issues with no accountability or consequences for Russia; in fact, the U.S. will form a “framework” with Russia to cooperate on cybersecurity issues, evaluating weaknesses and assessing potential responses jointly. Second, the two presidents agreed not to meddle in “each other’s” domestic affairs—equating American activities to promote democracy with Russian aggression aimed at undermining it, in an incalculable PR victory for the Kremlin. Third, the announced, limited cease-fire in Syria will be a new basis for cooperation between the U.S. and Russia; Secretary of State Rex Tillerson went so far as to say that the Russian approach in Syria—yielding mass civilian casualties, catastrophic displacement, untold destruction and erased borders—may be “more right” than that of the United States.

It's pretty amazing the Trump administration isn't taking steps to dispel the perception they are being influenced by Putin.

^^ When you think it's all fake news and fake media anyway, you probably won't feel the need to

The IC is going to go postal.

The themes of these speeches—speaking not of values but “civilization,” not of alliances but “sovereignty,” not of minority rights but the defense of the rights of the majority based on concepts of “traditional values”—were all central tenets of Trump’s speech in Warsaw, which was littered with illiberal buzzwords meant to catch the ear of those like-minded while simultaneously placating potential critics. Trump championed rhetoric and ideas that Putin had carefully crafted—ideas that some of Trump’s own advisers embrace.

This sort of gets it backwards though. Bannon and Miller don't believe in the the "clash of civilizations" narrative because they are following Putin's lead. America has it's own version of ethnic nationalism and their affinity for Putin stems from there. It's actually worse than if Putin had just installed a puppet regime here: a large contingent of Republican voters want the US to abandon its commitments to internationalism and human rights.

To be more specific, they don't believe we have any such commitments, or if we do, they aren't legitimate.

did Pence actually say the reason he touched the thing that said "do not touch" was cos Rubio dared him

Yes altho i think it was a joke

Such a funny man

I suspect the Plankton with a Hairpiece thought Pence would be instantly vaporized.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/senate-gop-and-white-house-plan-final-urgent-blitz-to-pass-health-care-law/2017/07/07/08367830-631d-11e7-8adc-fea80e32bf47_story.html?tid=sm_tw&utm_term=.92b5296b5971

One detail of this story makes me think McConnell already thinks it's over, and just wants to save face:

McConnell is expected to place greater responsibility on Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Tex.) to pitch his controversial amendment that would allow insurers to offer plans that don’t meet ACA requirements — provided they also offer some that do. McConnell could ask Cruz to speak to Republican senators as soon as Tuesday, according to a person familiar with his strategy. Cruz has often talked about his amendment in the senators’ regular Tuesday lunches, but the burden of building support for the bill could be left to the firebrand conservative.