Oscars 2018

visual effects longlist

Alien: Covenant
Beauty and the Beast
Blade Runner 2049
Dunkirk
Ghost in the Shell
Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2
Jumanji: Welcome to the Jungle
Justice League
Kong: Skull Island
Life
Logan
Okja
Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Men Tell No Tales
The Shape of Water
Spider-Man Homecoming
Star Wars: The Last Jedi
Thor: Ragnarok
Valerian and the City of a Thousand Planets
War for the Planet of the Apes
Wonder Woman

Justice League

This the Henry Cavill 'stache coverup job?

Apes ftw. A pretty amazing showcase for how far cgi has come.

This the Henry Cavill 'stache coverup job?

― Fred Klinkenberg (Eric H.),

I thought this was the Henry Cavill sexuality coverup job

also, we neglected the Governors Awards

“It is a big event, very serious,” Varda said, receiving an honorary Oscar for her six-decade filmmaking career as a feminist trailblazer and a French New Wave pioneer. “But if I have to choose between serious and lightness, I choose lightness.” With that, Varda grabbed the hand of presenter Angelina Jolie and began an impromptu dance to the jazz music playing in the ballroom, her distinctive, two-tone pageboy haircut shaking as she shuffled.

http://www.youtube.com/embed/WyiAGbahDwc

https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2017/11/governors-awards-2017-oscars-harvey-weinstein

while Angelina Jolie's distinctive monochrome ex-husband looked on

I hope Ladybird is up for editing

wonder how many of 2018’s nominations will be accused of sexual harassment between now and then

Or how Casey Affleck is going to handle presenting Best Actress.

imagine being the writer for that segment

hoping he will absent himself

from this mortal coil

I'm picturing the prompter just displaying [good luck pal]

doc feature shortlist

http://www.oscars.org/news/15-documentary-features-advance-2017-oscarr-race

Foreign finalists:

Chile: A Fantastic Woman, Sebastián Lelio
Germany: In the Fade, Fatih Akin
Hungary: On Body and Soul, Ildikó Enyedi
Israel: Foxtrot, Samuel Maoz
Lebanon: The Insult, Ziad Doueiri
Russia: Loveless, Andrey Zvyagintsev
Senegal: Félicité, Alain Gomis
South Africa: The Wound, John Trengove
Sweden: The Square, Ruben Östlund

Is there still that side committee that rescues one not-horribly-embarrassing film to secure a slot in the rundown? Can't remember how that's worked in the past, but this year's slate looks to be brimming with pap.

Damn, I was really hoping Zama would make it in.

How so more than usual?

In that even the vanguard selections here are things like The Square.

I guess there's the possibility that Loveless is "the one." I haven't seen it yet.

BPM missing, no surprise

I thought it had a shot, but evidently this year's committee was feeling extra antediluvian.

I wondered where Sacred Deer was until I remembered that only the delivery was foreign.

The inclusion of things like On Body and Soul, a Fantastic Woman and Felicité seems a bit more daring than usual imo. Or at least business as usual. I don't think it's worse than it always is. Except that Denmark isn't on there for the first time in a while.

Here we go:

'Florida Project' producer accused of sexual misconduct
By LINDSEY BAHR
AP Film Writer

LOS ANGELES (AP) -- "The Florida Project" producer Andrew Duncan has been accused of sexual misconduct by a dozen anonymous women and is stepping down from his company June Pictures.

Duncan in a statement Friday disputes the allegations, calling them either distorted or demonstrably false. He accuses rivals of "taking advantage of the news climate" and trying to undermine his financial prospects.

The Hollywood Reporter detailed accounts from multiple women alleging various kinds of misconduct on or around film sets ranging from inappropriate suggestions to kissing and groping without consent.

Alex Saks is taking sole control of June Pictures in Duncan's absence.

In addition to "The Florida Project," considered a candidate for best picture at the Oscars, June Pictures produced Paul Dano's directorial debut "Wildlife" and "Book Club," with Diane Keaton and Jane Fonda.

eligible songs, scores

http://www.awardsdaily.com/2017/12/18/70-original-songs-compete-90th-academy-awards/

http://www.awardsdaily.com/2017/12/18/141-original-scores-eligible-best-original-score/

get that song oscar to fuck, jesus.

is there a fee for getting on a longlist?

gotta be Dunkirk for score, no one else should even bother showing up.

I listened to the first 10 songs

"U.N.I"
Ed Sheeran glop. Has a speed rap portion that reminds me of "One Week".

"Love and Lies" - Band Aid
garbage indie pop collaboration. has some fred armisen involvement.

"If I Dare"
too many different sections. sounds like it was created by committee. something vague about girl power.

"Evermore" -- B&tB
Disney formula song, still aiming for that Whitney Houston moment. Lyrics seem to be about the beast being a stalker.

"How Does A Moment Last Forever" -- B&tB
Barely exists in the film. Has a longer Celine Dion version that suuuucks.

"Now or Never" - Bloodline: Now or Never
unrelated to the halsey song with 44M views on youtube. also unrelated to the netflix series. cheesy dance song with a horn hook. no chance.

"She" -- can't find it

“Your Hand I Will Never Let It Go” from “The Book of Henry”
Stevie Nicks! Too bad it sucks. the type of inspirational glop the academy likes.

“Buddy’s Business” from “Brawl in Cell Block 99”
O'Jays. retro but i like it. in the style of those great blaxploitation songs where the lyrics recap the plot.

“The Crown Sleeps” from “The Breadwinner”
a soft song with 'ethnic' touches. not bad actually.

get that song oscar to fuck, jesus

Sad to find that there isn't a song on the longlist called "Fuck, Jesus."

uh oh!

https://www.slantmagazine.com/house/article/2018-oscar-nomination-predictions

(re the intro, as if i need another reason to hate figure skaters)

Have you seen his butt?! Up there with the best inline skaters, it is.

They're just the worst kind of queens imho.

(worse than the ones complaining about Phantom Thread being 'closeted')

They're just the youngest kind of queens, is what you're saying.

so swishy in her satin and tat

idk if this is the place to talk about phantom thread but that movie was fucking incredible

We have a Phantom Thread thread that needs some livening up.

So will Jonny Greenwood sneak into the score category?

http://thefilmexperience.net/blog/2018/1/20/final-oscar-predictions-in-every-single-category.html

is PTA ever going to win an Oscar for writing or directing

Nominations going live as I type

woah at Mudbound's Rachel Morrison being the first female DP to get a nom

lmk if Sean Price Williams gets in

So will Jonny Greenwood sneak into the score category?

Yup!

Baby Driver got in for editing, the only thing it deserves really

god they've divided nomination announcements in half. We gotta await another couple minutes for the big ones.

Leslie Manville! Mary J. Blige!

Octavia Spencer this generation's Thelma Ritter.

Ugh – Christopher Plummer and Three Ebbings dudes in Supporting Actor. Nobody from Call Me By Your Name.

Greenwood in for score

has anyone seen any of the non-Square Foreign Pic nominees?

hint: actors' taste often sucks

Call Me by Your Name has only grossed something like $7.5 M in N America

The release schedule for that film has been a travesty.

Chalamet, Day-Lewis, Kaluuya, Oldman, Washington (!)

Hawkins, McDormand, Robbie, Ronan, Streep

Directors: Nolan, Peele, Gerwig, Anderson, del Toro

sufjan deserves to win the Best Song oscar for vetoing the "show up in the movie and perform the songs" idea

Chalamet! I'm happy.

Phantom Thread's performance is a most welcome surprise.

cmon boss baby

oh fuck off w/ Logan

oh! Agnes Varda made it too

Call Me By Your Name
Darkest Hour
Dunkirk
Get Out
Lady Bird
Phantom Thread
The Post
The Shape of Water
Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri

honestly not as bad a slate as it could have been

something to consider

First Oscar nominations in over a decade without the heavy-handed influence of the Weinstein corp.

— Justine Peres Smith (@redroomrantings) January 23, 2018

has anyone seen any of the non-Square Foreign Pic nominees?

― Simon H., 23. januar 2018 14:43 (twelve minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

On Body and Soul is quite good.

I'm delighted James Franco didn't make it.

I bet that's a relief for him too

I'm unclear on the rules here: when DDL decides two years from now to do another movie, does he have to return the retirement Oscar the Academy gives him this year?

Gary Old Ham is winning, OL.

of course Varda made it; with the special Oscar, they found out who she was this year.

and DDL is fucking brilliant btw

I've heard. I can't wait to see it.

aside from PT, happy to see Strong Island for doc

I'm unclear on the rules here: when DDL decides two years from now to do another movie, does he have to return the retirement Oscar the Academy gives him this year?

― the smartest persin in the room (Old Lunch),

lol he's NOT winning a fourth Oscar; he ain't Kate Hepburn.

Chalamet's publicists need to commission some MSM articles about what a racist Churchill was.

As nice as some of these nods are ... Darkest Hour somehow got 6 of them.

Although I dig I, Tonya being snubbed for best picture if that lifts Metcalf's chances any.

Academy needs to remind audience that they're still old, white, and sipping sherry

As for Christopher Plummer, well: the fastest turnaround for a nomination ever. It took some timing to fire Spacey and hire Plummer, and in this case showing up meant getting a consolation prize.

Once again, though, it's nice that the lateness/lastness of the Oscars in the awards calendar allowed for everyone to make the effort to see Phantom Thread.

And, yay, now I don't have to see Downsizing!

Nick Pinkerton likes Downsizing.

It's gotta be better than Baby Driver.

no Ansel, no credibility

via The Film Experience:

"This is Meryl's first time in a Best Picture nominee since Out of Africa (1985)."

Welp, that more or less proves Mark Harris's point about the misogyny behind the term "Oscar-bait."

I've not seen The Post but I hope it's more deserving of a nomination than Out of Africa was.

If The Shape of Water deserved 13 nominations, The Post deserved 258 nominations.

let's go out for a spielburger, Eric

"This is Meryl's first time in a Best Picture nominee since Out of Africa (1985)."

― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), T

I saw that too and he's wrong: The Hours.

Go Sufjan! When was the last great Oscar-nominated song? Must be 20 years ago maybe.. Elliott Smith's was pretty good.
Feels most odd to truly love an Oscar-nom tune.

oh xp

One nomination for The Florida Rascals, high five!

btw Alfred he's not wrong -- he means it's the first time she's been nominated AND the film was since OoA. RoboStreep was not one of the 3 acting nominees for The Hours (a film i have jubilantly avoided seeing).

Oh I see.

And don't see The Hours.

I couldn't even finish reading Mrs. Dalloway.

of note

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/kobe-bryants-oscar-nomination-clouded-by-past-sexual-assault-allegation-1077353

Good for Timothée and Greta Gerwig.

Cool to see On Body and Soul nommed

That means that the winner of the Golden Bear, Golden Palm and Golden Lion all got Oscar Noms in their respective categories, which feels rare? Also, Wang Bing clearly got cheated out of a best Doc nom, then.

Alexandra Borbély's acceptance speech for On Body and Soul at the EFA is worth watching!

https://www.europeanfilmawards.eu/en_EN/efa-2017-alexandra-borbely

Ha – I just realized that Octavia Spencer gets her third nomination playing a sassy maid in the '50s or '60s.

#OscarSoLouiseBeavers

I couldn't really find a way to say that tactfully in my nominations piece.

The Hidden Figures role is different enough. Shape of Water though? Nope.

Hidden Figures a slightly more deserving nomination too

Surprised that Phantom Thread got snubbed for Original Screenplay, but more disappointed that that piece of shit The Big Sick got nominated. wtf?

that piece of shit The Big Sick

fp'd

oh my god what an awful movie, so full of itself & full of loathsome obnoxious people, the apotheosis of the noxious trend of "improv & standup comedians giving *sage advice* and showing us how to live"

yeah I didn't get defenses of its freshness and wit.

Haven't seen any of the documentaries--Ex Libris and Dawson City should be there, also (more subjectively) Citizen Jane. (Like best picture, more than five should be allowed.)

xp it was a paint by numbers romcom elevated by its projected and perceived 'social import' starring unfunny and actively annoying people lecturing the audience for an hour and a half. no wit, no 'freshness'- just hectoring & navel-gazing of a particularly banal life story. anyway

Best Picture a toss-up between Get Out, Lady Bird, and The Shape of Water... I made out like a bandit last year, making bets this time is a little more difficult

I'm so happy Jonny Greenwood got nominated

Don't give a shit about Radiohead but his relationship with PTA has been amazing, great scores

Hans Zimmer will win for Dunkirk, tho, a good score from a composer I don't care for otherwise

At this point, BP is probably Shape of Water vs. Three Billboards, and I hate that this makes me want to root for the latter, despite being basically awful.

re: Big Sick, what's this about (haven't seen it)

the big sick is a good movie to watch if you want to see a bunch of Pakistani women get shade thrown at them

— Cold Drinks Enjoyer Li'l 🌴 (@karengeier) January 23, 2018

At this point, BP is probably Shape of Water vs. Three Billboards, and I hate that this makes me want to root for the latter, despite being basically awful.

― Tarr Yang Preminger Argento Carpenter (Eric H.)

are you serious? SOW is at worst conservative Oscarbait with monsters and bestiality.

I would've agreed with you but ... 13 nominations.

Three Billboards isn't likely to win without a director nomination, is it? I would think Lady Bird or Get Out are the other films competing with SOW for BP

Three Billboards is not going to win

a million people have already written thinkpieces about how racist it is and there'll be another million before the ceremony

It'd be a miracle for Get Out or Lady Bird to win tbh.

Hell, maybe it's Darkest Hour's to lose. It already got five more nominations than anyone expected.

I hope Ronan can eke out a win over McDormand, but I don't really buy that 3BB's momentum is abating after it managed to steal two nods in the supporting actor category

I know the tweet earlier was kinda joking but I could actually see a cappaign of reminding people Churchill was a shithead working pretty well to spoil any chances it may have

Shape of Water is the safest bet

@simon - that's a particularly stupid critique of the movie i've seen a few times. basically the lead guy falls in love with a white woman, but his family is insistent that he follow in their footsteps and accept an arranged marriage with a Pakistani woman. the family hoodwinks him several times into blind dates with various Pakistani women at their house. he's not interested because he's in love with someone else. there's no 'shade' thrown at these random women, his heart is already set on someone else. I don't see the issue.

ahhh.

I guess Desplat could win if Zimmer doesn't. I only just saw Dunkirk and thought that was the freshest element, instead of using the usual war-film stirring orchestral template.

I am not paying to see Three Billboards, and don't have good feelings about going to SoW either.

All these BP "it can't win" arguments remind me of the 2016 Republican primaries, and...

The shape of water had a nice score. Felt like they put effort in, with actual motifs for the characters and everything

and Three Billboards has a strong Trump-ian undercurrent so

I can't figure out why del Toro's film is gonna be the monster-movie romance to get a Golden Shower. Cronenberg is asking, "Where were you people for The Fly?"

I don't understand the racist/Trump connection in Three Billboards at all. I saw it in November, really liked it, and only a few weeks ago began seeing the 'problematic' thinkpieces popping up, and before I read any of them, I couldn't even guess what they would take issue with. Why do people need to make a villain to root against? Moonlight v. La La Land was a pretty stark contrast & all that mishegoss made sense, especially at the time. Now people are really grasping at straws.

I have no memory of Desplat winning an Oscar for The Grand Budapest Hotel. Zimmer won 20+ years ago for The Lion King.

xxp Morbs i wasn't interested in The Shape of Water based on the trailer, but it really moved me. also it's really well paced, it manages to be a lot of things (Cold War movie, buddy comedy, romcom, tearjerker) and it's really, really entertaining and movie. in my mind it's 'Oscar bait' in the best sense of the word- a movie with mass appeal that pulls off a lot that isn't pandering or contrived.

an extra 'and' woops

I don't understand the racist/Trump connection in Three Billboards at all. I

The glibness with which it waves aside Rockwell's sadism and racism, and how the film adds black heroes that make Sidney Poitier look like Bull Connor, plus makes a joke of its flirtation with vigilantism, is damn gross. I'll grant you that the only Trump connection is the insistence on being "color blind"

I don't dislike The Shape of Water; I understand why Oscar voters preferred it to Pan's Labyrinth.

It'd be a miracle for Get Out or Lady Bird to win tbh.

Really? Seem like both have a built in narrative would give the academy a pat on the back.

was Silence of the Lambs the last horror-ish thing to win?

(no "so bad it was scary" joke responses pls)

They did that last year. Could get a big enough pat by giving the prize to a film made by a Mexican or Irish guy (they think; I think it's all a self-conscious game of keeping up appearances).

xxp

no horror(ish) since Lambs, no

Considering putting a few dollars down on Get Out for BP, good odds

They did that last year. Could get a big enough pat by giving the prize to a film made by a Mexican or Irish guy (they think; I think it's all a self-conscious game of keeping up appearances).

xxp

― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, January 23, 2018 2:55 PM (four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Doesn't mean they're not going to do it again. They absolutely will- Lady Bird represents #metoo, Get Out is Black Lives Matter / more atonement for #OscarsSoWhite, and apparently Three Billboards is Trump's America (the movie many people won't admit voting for). The confluence of ready-made narratives & a really stellar list of movies to match is rare.

That's the problem this year. Everything comes to Oscar night with causes attached to every limb, like leeches.

... save for Phantom Thread!

that's the way it's going to be for the foreseeable future. at least the movies are good this year

PTA is going to end up like Altman, Hitchcock, Lynch, Scorsese (yea yea i know 2006). Lifetime achievement award in 20-30 years, maybe a belated win like Scorsese.

Bigelow/Detroit shut out. (Didn't see it.)

No one's talked about that movie in months that I can recall, beyond the Best Song category.

Yeah, I remember telling my relatives about that Detroit song at Thanksgiving, and how it might land an Oscar nomination.

Bigelow//Detroit/ shut out. (Didn't see it.)

domestic gross: $16.8 M

(in 2009, The Hurt Locker was $17 M btw)

the net is gross.

Argo won without a Best Director nom.

as did Driving Miss Daisy

not many movies can match Driving Miss Daisy and Argo, of course

perhaps foolish of me to have hoped for a nomination or two for Lost City of Z

Didn't star Franchot Tone and Clark Gable.

a 'difficult' film that died at the box office? yes.

I'd put money on Zimmer, that score is amazing, I only watched the first half of that movie but was completely blown away both by the concept-- "let's have a single continuous piece of music with a constantly accelerating and decelerating tempo, and float from scene to scene from timeline to timeline following the mood but not the cuts"-- and execution

Greenwood should've won for The Master imho, best modern score imho

mother! was robbed!

five thirty eight is leaning towards The Shape of Water, too:

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/oscars-2018-early-predictions-nominations/

meanwhile Richard Brody has words for those of us who thought Tiffany Haddish was awful announcing the nominations:

Even the jokes that she made of her mispronunciations on the nominations broadcast—referring to the town in the title of “Three Billboards” as “Ebony, Missouri,” or calling the star of “Get Out,” Daniel Kaluuya, “Kahlúa” and “Kallelujah”—are marks of improvisational genius.

damn brody let us know when the shuttle lands

was personal shopper eligible this year?

I think it was caught in between 2016/2017. Opened in the US in March, but premiered abroad in 2016. Same thing with the new Almodovar.

It was. So was BPM. (One-week release in LA is all that counts.)

https://www.oscars.org/sites/oscars/files/90th_reminder_list.pdf

Julieta was '16, both on the general release list and as the Spanish f.l.f. submission.

I have my grandchildren — the two children of my son Mathieu — who live in Los Angeles. I will be with them until I go to the place of the Oscar. No problem. No anxiety!

http://www.vulture.com/2018/01/agns-varda-does-not-care-about-being-oldest-oscar-nominee.html

LOVE that!

"place of the Oscar" much better than Kodak Theater

Casey Affleck withdrew from presenting the best actress oscar.

ah I was wondering about that today. wonder who it'll be then

Leo then? Or a political choice- something to do with #MeToo?

Oprah?

oh hell yeah

people talking about awards season shit before 10am pic.twitter.com/CE52AJFPtZ

— Michael Lieberman (@michaelagrammar) January 26, 2018

saw 3BB last night, I liked it far more than I was expecting to after having seen all kinds of backlash against it, from along the lines that Alfred painted to Rebecca Solnit who thought it was an unfair caricature of the South and cops (!!!). the characters in it are nuanced and have more than one side, certainly; I don't think it really excuses anything they do; and at no point is anyone ever really 'good' or 'bad' except for probably Woody. I don't think you're supposed to think well of McDormand and Rockwell going off to do what they think they're going to do at the end. Dunno.

Anyway I don't think it'll win; it's was fine but hardly best picture material. It's certainly no In Bruges!

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2018/jan/25/shape-of-water-oscars-paul-zindel-similarities

In both stories, a female cleaner works a night shift at a lab and falls for an aquatic creature that is the subject of mysterious science experiments. Both women develop a relationship by bringing food to the animal and dancing with a mop in front of the tank to the tune of a love song.

The two cleaner characters both learn to communicate with the creatures, and both labs are involved in secretive military operations. The protagonists both discover imminent plans to kill the creature, and both labs mention “vivisection”.

Both women also devise plans to rescue the animal and release it to the sea by sneaking it out in a laundry cart. In Let Me Hear You Whisper, named after a song lyric that the laboratory plays for the dolphin, the creature repeatedly says “hamper” to the protagonist, Helen, to encourage her to get a laundry cart.

Both women are friends with another janitor who helps them – Danielle in one version of Zindel’s work and Zelda in Del Toro’s film, played by Octavia Spencer, who was nominated for an acting Oscar alongside Hawkins.

There are also major differences in the two stories. In The Shape of Water, the main character, Elisa, is mute and communicates in sign language with the creature.

Helen speaks, but does reference muteness when discussing the dolphin’s inability to talk to the scientists, saying: “Some human beings are mute, you know. Just because they can’t talk, we don’t kill them.”

The Shape of Water also has another significant character: Elisa’s gay friend, played by Richard Jenkins. There are further substantial differences in the endings of the two works.

I usually watch any BP nom, but should I bother with Darkest Hour?

No

A nothing of a movie that assumes its scaffolding is supported by one performance.

https://www.theguardian.com/film/shortcuts/2018/feb/06/agnes-varda-cut-out-oscars-french-film-maker

awesome! all downhill from here

I've considered bringing a cutout to class tbh

well but here the other nominees noticed the difference *RIMSHOT*

I said bring a cutout, not a cutup.

on a relevant note, see the Rip Torn thread

they're baaaack

https://www.slantmagazine.com/house/tags/474-academy-awards

im waiting for that hollywood reporter (?) annual series where they get people in the academy to speak anonymously and candidly about what they voted for, those are always the best

maybe they'll tell us that they always thought McCartney a shirty basset and who fucked Marlon Brando in a washing machine.

*shitty bassist, but I like how auto correct assumed I meant Shirley Bassey

xp I thought you were calling Melissa McCarthy a shirty basset

xxp pffffft lmao

the Beatles Derangement Syndrome itt is so wild & inexplicable when it's easily the least interesting or controversial bit in either of the QJ interviews

im waiting for that hollywood reporter (?) annual series where they get people in the academy to speak anonymously and candidly about what they voted for, those are always the best

isn't it always the same grumpy asshole with terrible taste?

Lol maybe but it is reliably hilarious

isn't it always the same grumpy asshole with terrible taste?

― Simon H.,

somebody dig up Ernest Borgnine

Or Morbs.

heyyyyyyyyyy now!

I agree, that was beneath me.

who let jeffrey tambor in here

a forgiving tranny?

iirc he's the one who needs forgiveness

yeah i read the news

front page of the new york times

[url=https://www.thedailybeast.com/confessions-of-an-oscar-voter-why-i-loved-three-billboards-and-dont-get-get-out?ref=home]Michael Musto[/i] talks to the usual Anonymous Voter[/i], whom he should have set on fire:

Best Actor?

It’s absolutely Gary Oldman. Ironically, I’ve seen Darkest Hour five times and have absolutely enjoyed it five times. The only reason I don’t think it will win Best Picture is because it’s too safe. The Shape of Water is very slick, but there’s no risk involved in Darkest Hour.

What about the supporting categories?

[For Best Supporting Actor], for me, it was a toss-up between Sam Rockwell [for Three Billboards] and Willem Dafoe [for The Florida Project]. I’m going for Sam Rockwell for the same reason as Frances McDormand. He was pitch-perfect. He had to straddle the line between monster and hero, and he did it perfectly. The Florida Project was one of my favorite movies of the year. I was disappointed it did not make the list [for Best Picture]. I thought Willem Dafoe was absolutely perfect in bridging the gap between seasoned actors and newcomers.

But Rockwell win win?

Oh, yeah. Unfortunately, because Florida Project did not get [nominated for] Best Picture or even screenplay, I think the chance of Dafoe has gone way down.

Your thoughts on Daniel Day-Lewis’ swan song, Phantom Thread?

I liked it, but it’s definitely something where the whole is a lot better than the sum of its parts. You had to sit through this excruciatingly slow film to appreciate the ending and find the film really good, while Three Billboards and The Shape of Water and most of the other nominees were enjoyable from beginning to end.

Oh Fuck Yes

Love this guy. Full disclosure- I haven't read a word of this yet

Will The Shape of Water win the most awards? Dunkirk?

I hope it’s not Dunkirk. Between Darkest Hour and Dunkirk, I didn’t understand Dunkirk. It’s a fine battle picture, but it’s very, very confusing. They constantly switch between night and day. I wasn’t familiar with Dunkirk in my history, and I didn’t know it’s in France. And they never explained it.

I mean jesus.

It's set in Dunkirk, Montana.

Three Battles Outside Dunkirk, Montana

lmao i know, i love it

You'd think the French the locals were speaking might've been a tipoff.

As if Americans can identify French vs. say, Klingon

The baguette and Hamburglar turtleneck are always a tip-off

A different anonymous voter!

http://www.indiewire.com/2018/02/anonymous-oscar-ballot-voter-best-picture-three-billboards-lady-bird-1201927235/

Has anyone who is not an Oscar voter seen Three Billboards

The Florida Project” was too controversial, too dark and edgy

"Controversial" = Lord Soto's million-strong Twitter campaign turned the tide?

xp yeah it did pretty well

lol i like that another academy member is on record re: the sound editing / sound mixing categories: "i don't understand what they are"

iirc, the editing is about the quality of the post production stuff (sound f/x, dubbing, etc.) and mixing is about the quality of the film as it sounds in the theatre. Gearhead stuff that matters not to 99.999% of the populace.

I mean, I've actually taken legit classes in Film Audio, and I still had to stretch for an answer.

Ugh:

With only 13 days left until Oscar, the race in most of the marquee categories is sadly settled. BAFTA, held today in London, cemented the frontrunners honoring the exact same actors as the Critics Choice Awards, SAG, and Golden Globes. It's Gary Oldman, Frances McDormand, Sam Rockwell, and Alison Janney for the Oscars. Engrave the statues now. That's just too much consensus for Oscar to overthrow though we're personally baffled that none of that quartet's strong (and arguably better) competitors managed to put up a fight. What's more it's the first time in history when there's been no variation whatsoever in the prizes despite none of that foursome winning any of the top critics awards (NYFCC, LAFCA, and NSFC). Usually there's at least one 'we're-doing-our-own-thing' moment within the four categories in the televised precursors. Not this year. What happened to the tough battle we were suppose to have in Best Actress for example with Saoirse Ronan, Margot Robbie, and Sally Hawkins all seeming possible early on as victors.

haven't these fucking things been and gone already

i've not seen those 4 performances and have no plans to (certainly not to pay)

Daniela Vega among the presenters

http://www.oscars.org/news/90th-oscars-first-slate-presenters-announced

They better be holding Keir Dullea and Gary Lockwood as the Golden Surprise...

if you missed Sci/Tech night

http://www.oscars.org/sci-tech/ceremonies/2018

you like me probably don't know what the Hydrascope telescoping camera crane systems are.

So every single one of the TV awards -- Globes/SAG/BAFTA -- went for the same quadfecta of Oldman, McDormand, Rockwell and Janney. Should be as boring an Oscar night as we've seen in eons.

Haha, oops, I see someone already posted that. I've been away.

Best Picture is still an open question, though

as is who will win the In Memoriam

sam rockwell. really? bad part, and not acted notably well.

yeah BP is a complete tossup AFAICT. I can see almost any of the nominees taking it.

nah imo it’s between lady bird, shape of water, 3BB, and get out

ie the movies that represent social causes

thinkin' it's 3BB or Shape. They'd like to give orig screenplay to Gerwig AND Peele purely for the optics, but have to choose.

The Vanity Fair Oscar podcast had a guy on who fronted the compelling argument that Dunkirk is positioned to be a strong challenger for best picture. It made about as much sense as a plurality getting behind something like The Shape of Water tbh.

ie the movies that represent social causes

if that's the main qualifier, you're neglecting The Post.

yea that one is a true toss up

and uh shape of water doesn't represent a social cause it's just a 'good movie' (i liked it a lot) that has wide appeal. that's my bet. younger pool of voters will split between get out and lady bird, with an edge on lady bird bc that'll get more of the older crew

I swear I thought this would be Dunkirk. On first glance The Shape of Water isn't uh standard Oscar fare until you remember how sentimental it is.

xp oh yeah the post. everyone just sort of forgot about that movie. it wasn't good. i mean movies that come to represent social causes- i.e. la la land somehow being trump, moonlight being hillary or not trump

Also, either Get Out or Lady Bird or even both are likely going home empty handed. So, the Academy will have to answer for that.

Shape of Water is honestly good platonic crowd pleaser oscar winner bc it does have a refreshingly frank take on female sexuality (re: her daily routine, not necessarily the fish)

xp yes that is possible. again bc of vote splitting

xp Only way that doesn't happen is if Peele wins screenplay and somehow Metcalf beats Janney.

i'da thought people who are into the wah would opt for dunkirk over the awful biopic, but then that anonymous voter interview showed up...

I'm fairly certain at this point that Lady Bird will get nothing.

The FIlm Experience podcast speculated on (hoped for) a possible Adrien Brody spoiler in Best Actor but conceded the folly of Sony Picture Classics's not promoting the hell out of Chalamet and knocking a very easy trophy out of Oldman's hands.

just reminding flappy bird that Peele is an amateur next to Spielberg, and the films show it

lol

i mean yes Peele has directed... 2? films, spielberg dozens, but boy the post sucked

no, it didn't. the last 35 minutes of Get Out sucked.

I'm fairly certain at this point that Lady Bird will get nothing.

― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, February 21, 2018 9:17 AM (nine minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this sucks

knocking a very easy trophy out of Oldman's hands

You are familiar with what wins Oscars, yes? Chalamet didn't have a chance in hell to win this, no matter how much SPC flogged him.

who's been flogging Chalamet? in what dungeon?

You are familiar with what wins Oscars, yes? Chalamet didn't have a chance in hell to win this, no matter how much SPC flogged him.

― "Minneapolis" (barf) (Eric H.)

I wasn't even thinking of Chalamet – I had Kaluuya in mind. Until the TV award juggernauts Oldman looked like frontrunner for obv reasons but not a lock, i.e. no real enthusiasm.

If it were either Chalamet or Kaluuya alone in a category full of Gary Oldmans and Denzel Washingtons -- the actual Adrian Brody scenario set-up -- then yes, maybe they would've had a shot. And even then, Brody was playing a Holocaust survivor, so.

and Kaluuya's playing the lead in 2017's favorite mainstream talking point movie.

it evens out

Ask three people over the age of 50 what they thought of Get Out.

I'd argue that Get Out gets knocked out of the best picture race by the second or third pass, tbh.

It's true, we oldtimers know The Stepford Wives when we see it. (even if we never saw the original)

Maybe there's just enough reflexive Day-Lewis voters to engineer an upset (who are also closeted gay men who like to get poisoned). Not betting on it though.

have you seen the fashion choices of Academy members? Not happening.

Phantom Thread is not going to win anything

Maybe Best Score

Nope: https://www.slantmagazine.com/house/article/oscar-2018-winner-predictions-costume-design

oh right, duh

"closeted gay men who like to get poisoned" is one of the less popular craigslist personals sections

easier to find your soulmate then

he's not gay.

don't say that to David Ehrenstein!

I'm 63. I loved Get Out. Whatever that means.

jed, do you know what the exclusive meaning of "confirmed bachelor" was in the mid-20th century?

It meant “hungry boy,” iirc

lol

I was finally able to see Lady Bird on its return to a local theater and I'm going to be angry if it gets shut out

I don't need to see this Three Billboards crap to be justifiably angry at it for getting nominations, right?

it is very bad

I never saw Crash for similar reasons, but is it Crash levels of bad

not quite, but it nearly reaches crash levels of hamfistedness

There is no such thing as Crash-level badness. Only Crash has ever been that bad.

Three Billboards is its own level of badness.

The CMBYN Talking Heads t shirt having a picture from 1984 despite the film being set in 1983.. i mean come on costume bloke/lady jeez. Maybe i like film too much and i'm just nitpicking but i mean if it was the wrong Bob Dylan photo or some such we'd never hear the last of it.

you're just nitpicking

i love when the anonymous Oscar voters call Dunkirk confusing just to remind us they're in their 70s and watched it on their couch while doing a sudoku

— Corey Atad (@CoreyAtad) February 28, 2018

finally getting to watch Dunkirk the way it was intended to be seen pic.twitter.com/vSqGquIMs4

— demi adejuyigbe (@electrolemon) December 20, 2017

two hilarious tweets, nice

btw Ed G went gonzo at Slant today and picks Metcalf to take supp actress.

Any chance Jerry Lewis wins the obit montage? Didn't check any of the necrologies.

I'm hoping we get a Rylance-type surprise -- anything

I agreed with Ed's feelings on this one. And tomorrow's.

http://theweek.com/articles/756341/why-years-best-picture-race-total-crapshoot

it turns out i'll be watching at my friend's house (with his son who went to HS with Chalamet), so i don't need pool picks.

xp that sums up the problem with awards like the Oscars in a nutshell, along with some of the interviews with anonymous voters I've read: people vote for whatever film they feel is "the type of movie that wins Oscars"

it's almost as bad as the thought process that leads producers to demand things get include in high budget films because they're elements needed in blockbusters

So, Beatty and Dunaway take two for best picture, eh?

:o

if so it's gonna be heavily scripted comedy

Slant BP pick strikes me as "wishful." (Kinda like Ed's RussiaRussiaRussia doc feature pick, but I think he's got the mindset right there.)

https://www.slantmagazine.com/house/article/oscar-2018-winner-predictions-picture

"politically acute genre miscegenation" zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

that's a lot of adjectives to live down

if Slant's picks prove correct and Get Out were to win ONLY Best Picture, it will be interpreted by many as a supreme act of tokenism.

xps go to bed, old man.

And you're damned right it'll be tokenism. Until every category gets the ranked-choice treatment.

what's the fewest Oscars a BP has ever won?

I think Grand Hotel won just the one.

Plus The Broadway Melody and Mutiny on the Bounty

In modern times, Spotlight only one two.

wow. 3 movies that have aged about as well as the hamfisted, evasive third act of Get Out will. xp

"politically acute genre miscalculation" works for me btw

Any chance Jerry Lewis wins the obit montage? Didn't check any of the necrologies.

― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), 1. marts 2018 21:35 (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I'm hoping we get a Rylance-type surprise -- anything

― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), 1. marts 2018 21:53 (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Wow. That's dark, Alfred.

I coined the term "genre miscegenation" with you in mind, as the very thing that irks Oscar voters' Ernest Borgnine demo.

Nah, Ernest Borgnine comp doesn't work re Get Out. He wasn't above *appearing* in shit horror films, at least...

YEP IT WAS GONNA GO THERE

anyway Eric i appreciate yr calling Phantom Thread as Should Win (unless that was a combo vote)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DmYLrxR0Y8

Also, Grand Hotel is in like the 90th percentile for the first few decades of Oscar winners.

idgi, the 90th percentile re what?

Decent pictures to win, I think.

The 1930s had some of the worst winners in history: Cimarron, The Broadway Melody, Cavalcade

OK, maybe 90th percentile is a stretch, but it's among the best of everything pre-Gone with the Wind.

KJB hates it! Immune to all-star power, I guess.

I'm not crazy about it either.

I wouldn't kick it out of bed, though, which, admittedly, would be her considering its size.

her=hard

All Quiet on the Western Front
It Happened One Night
You Can't Take It with You

Those are the ones that I'll sit still for being called better. None of the rest.

Of course, of the next decade after that, the only one that's worse than Grand Hotel is Mrs. Miniver.

The last third of You Can't Take It with You is a disgrace, where they tear up the play and turn it into a Capracorn faux class-conflict thing.

(ie GWTW is better)

Right, I'm counting GWTW as the first of the next batch.

the year crash won (won 3 awards) was also the year martin mcdonagh won his first oscar (for best live short)

also, mcdonagh is now going out with fleabag (pheobe waller-bridge) but i don't know if fleabag has made it to north america.

It Happened One Night is great

I think Get Out will win. the purging of the Academy voting rolls & abundance of diverse young voters can't be overstated imo. i mean, fucking Moonlight won best picture last year. I think Peele has a good shot at director & screenplay, too.

I'm sending Catherine Keener after you with a tea cup if you're wrong.

i'll drink anything that woman gives me

https://www.aceshowbiz.com/images/still/hamlet2_11.jpg

I'm coming around to the Get Out argument

Who was purged from the Academy? I didn't realise that has happened: I just thought they'd added new people to dilute the old crowd.

Billy Mumy. That's about it, but it's gonna make a huge difference.

Is there still enough excitement about Get Out, though? It's been a year since it made its biggest impact. Moonlight was somewhat better timed for awards season.

maybe not as many as i thought: https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/features/oscarssowhite-academy-struggles-diversity-age-885633

Four days after that, she sent all Academy members an email — and simultaneously issued a press release — revealing that the previous evening the board unanimously had authorized "a series of courageous steps." Among them: members who had not remained "active" in the business during a 10-year period since being invited to join the Academy — except for those who had been nominated for an Oscar or who had demonstrated activity in three consecutive decades since joining the Academy — would lose their voting privileges beginning in the 2016 awards cycle.

xp - yes, Get Out has sustained excitement and every anonymous voter article i've read focusing on younger voters has them all voting for Get Out for Best Picture, Director, & Screenplay. one of them said that "Get Out is in my opinion the only masterpiece in the running this year." i'm positive Get Out will go down as the most important movie of the decade when the time comes.

they didn't replace all the Old Guard, y'know.

movies are not important.

still, the BP tabulation method is fucking insane, eliminating low finishers and crediting 2nd/3rd place votes til one gets over 50%?

and the whole notion of "awards season timing" and genre exclusions have gone out the window with younger voters. But there's an equally strong feeling among older voters who said "that's not an Oscar movie" and refused to see it. I still don't see what could win instead- Lady Bird feels like such a token pick, that one anonymous voter in the vulture article was otm: "this was a movie that five years ago would've been a hit at Sundance and got bought for 5-10 million" and "i'm glad Greta got nominated but it's ridiculous that Lady Bird is up against Phantom Thread and Dunkirk for Best Director."

xp- what's the old guard's pick? 3 Billboards? The Shape of Water?

also in that vulture piece someone brought up Gary Oldman's history of domestic abuse, which I didn't know about, and I don't think many Academy voters know about either. seems like all 4 acting categories are a wash- rockwell, janney, oldman, mcdormand. what do yall think?

Slant demurs

the "Scalia dissents" of the filmcrit world

I'm hoping for a Metcalf or Manville upset.

Oldman's personal history has been weirdly buried, yeah.

but Kobe Bryant's cartoon is apparently poised to win, and he had a case dismissed...

Dear Basketball, the ACTUAL worst movie nominated for an award this year outside of The Insult.

I only just caught Get Out; it's merely good, kind of an A minus grade student art film? But I thought Kaluuya was <i>phenomenal</i>. Everything works in the movie because of Kaluuya, not Jordan Peele.

That is to say, phonomenal

Please point me to some A-minus-grade student art films that are as good as Get Out. Seriously, it sounds I'd enjoy them, and there must a lot of them.

if i could stan for any upset it would be Manville.

It's perfectly okay to say Get Out does many things right and wittily, is not a great film, yet deserves to win anyway.

if it wins then at least it will be better than the last thing that won.

Moonlight? Marginally.

i said at least!

but yes, it is funny.

It's perfectly okay to say Get Out does many things right and wittily, is not a great film, yet deserves to win anyway.

yeah PT is a better movie but GO winning would be more fun

yep

well, PT winning would be more excellent fun.

the kinda fun I hate. xp

I'm soooo glad Charles Burnett and Melvin van Peebles remain unknowns while cinematic neophytes are blazing Oscar trails

the kinda fun I hate

Oh, so everything.

btw isn't You Can't Take It With You too *screwball* for you?

well yeah we can only have one kind of black filmmaker, right?

still, the BP tabulation method is fucking insane, eliminating low finishers and crediting 2nd/3rd place votes til one gets over 50%?

The most obvious downside for something like an award I guess is you can potentially pick a winner that a majority weakly support rather than one a plurality strongly support. (Whereas this is potentially desirable in a political contest.)

btw isn't You Can't Take It With You too *screwball* for you?

I said I can imagine and accept arguments for it being better than Grand Hotel. I didn't outline a referendum on my own taste.

well yeah we can only have one kind of black filmmaker, right?

No, in 2016-17 Oscar terms, just the kind who can't do third acts.

Whereas this is potentially desirable in a political contest.

yep, the alt-right is quakin'

strike that, i misinterpreted yr post

yesssss: https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/lists/brutally-honest-oscar-ballot-get-filmmakers-played-race-card-just-sick-meryl-streep-1090440/item/best-original-screenplay-2018-brutally-honest-oscars-ballot-2-1090472?utm_source=t.co&utm_medium=referral

lmfao:

At a talkback, he [del Toro] said, “I wrote a love story because I really think that if we love each other more, it will solve a lot of the problems in the world today.” I hadn’t thought about things that way and I liked that.

Oscar voter unfamiliar with Buddha, Jesus, Beatles

In Call Me by Your Name,] one guy [Armie Hammer] comes off as a 35-year-old hitting on a 17-year-old [22-year-old Timothee Chalamet], and that just bothered me

Here's the real reason why SPC was afraid to promote this thing.

I eliminated The Post first. To me, it was the most boring movie. I remember that era, and that Kay Graham flew in to LBJ’s parties every weekend down on his ranch — that I would have liked to have seen!

Oscar voter otm

“I wrote a love story because I really think that if we love each other more, it will solve a lot of the problems in the world today.”

Please let be mixing up del Toro and Tommy Wiseau.

oldman was dreadful to the point of surrealism, in case anyone's been wondering.

Like our president, say.

Would totally watch Trump in prosthetics playing Churchill.

I'd watch him prosthetics playing Trump.

watching the audience react to darkest hour was a hundred times more alienating and baffling than the 2016 election

Mayfair showing pretty muted. Where did you see it?

i'm in hawaii. muted is what i'm complaining about: you wait for the raucous laughter and it never comes

Ah, I see. Over here I'd heard report of rounds of applause at the end and the like, which was what I failed to experience.

a lot of impressed and moved talk in the lobby afterwards; the worst thing you can get anyone to say about it is that the movie isn't as good as oldman's performance, when in fact they are exactly suited for each other

anyway, sobering (in that interview) to see streep-sickness finally afflict the most resilient among us.

"i loved get out until its creators claimed it was about race" is presumably the premise of get out 2

That left it down to Darkest Hour and The Shape of Water.

OK, time to shuffle off the mortal voter roll.

Just heard the crazy system for voting best picture, which I guess takes into account second and third and so on choices (I think). Maybe this was on NPR? Anyway, they sort of theorized that Dunkirk and Get Out had the best underdog chances, because they were the most liked and made the most money so would perhaps appear on enough ballots in second or third (or first) place to get enough total votes to win.

Also, had two (female) friends of mine wonder if they would have liked Call Me By Your Name (which they loved) as much if it was set in Indiana and not Italy.

a lake house in Indianapolis, say.

I'm ruling Dunkirk out on the basis of most Academy members viewing these films on screeners (and, as someone commented here, probably doing sudoku at the same time).

Call Me By Your Name feels like a good outside bet to me.

Yeah a preferential ballot is crazy, Oscars should use a good rational voting system like the Electoral College

no shot for CMBYN as bp: we did gay last year

Nah.

roughly i think the odds are

3 Billboards 40%
Shape 35%
Lady Bird 15%
Get Out 10%

CMBYN is also probably the least watched of any of the nominees

Get Out? Surely the voters will think they did black last year ;)

xpost

that's different.

has 538 weighed in?

rly can't see get out winning, despite its being well-positioned to sneak in. the anthony lane review wrung its hands over the movie supposedly proposing we "cannot live together". imagine how oscar voters feel.

Academy kremlinology feels more fun than ever this year. One thing I always want to know (so much I just asked my first ever Quora question about it, to zero response):

Someone, at some point, tabulates the votes and knows what came second, how big the margin was etc. Does this knowledge go to their graves, or is it preserved in some secret Academy archive vault? I'd love it if after 50 years or whatever, this information was released.

Call Me stands the least chance in hell of winning.

It's The Shape of Water, Three Billboards, or Get Out. If TB wins Best Screenplay early, start pouring drinks.

So, am I crazy for predicting Lady Bird, as I did when my parents asked a while back?

Not gonna happen.

that oscar voter "eliminated" an awful lot of movies despite it being a preferential voting system.

Three Billboards is gonna sweep isn't it, although i think Greta is an outside shout for Director.

This can't have hurt

https://subscription-assets.timeinc.com/current/1850_top1_205_thumb.jpg

Watched Pan's Labyrinth with my wife and older daughter last night. They both loved it, and boy is that movie better than Shape of Water. (And yeah, Del Toro really likes stabbing and shooting people in the face). As my daughter (who has not seen SoW) astutely observed, the horrific sadistic violence in Pan's at least makes thematic sense because its perpetrated by horrific sadistic capital F fascists in the midst of fascist Spain, not gratuitously in some government facility in '50s Baltimore or wherever by an inexplicable psychopath.

(Had to look it up, and Pan's lost best foreign film to The Lives of Others, which is fair enough. But had it been nominated for Best Picture, as it might of, say, this year, it sure would have beat the fucking Departed.)

Over dinner last night my wife, who had gone running that morning and talked Oscars with her pals, stated "Boy, no one likes Three Billboards, do they?" She has been tasked with bringing a dish to an Oscar theme party. She is bringing Three Cheeseboards.

Lives of Others is among the most awful of foreign film winners. Sentimental hogwash.

Why, after all these decades, are you confusing Oscar winners with quality?

why, after all these decades, are you so cranky this morning?

Del Toro's Spanish language films are his best, IMO. Must be the excellent catering.

Why, after all these decades, are you confusing Oscar winners with quality?

Because after all these decades their imprimatur can still sometimes draw someone out to see something that is not a superhero film?

I've only just realised that Michael Shannon wasn't nominated for The Shape of Water. I loved him in that more than I've loved anything he's done for ages. I guess the way Del Toro shoots him is a big part of that.

omg this is amazing

Warren Beatty and Faye Dunaway to present best picture Oscar again

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2018/mar/02/warren-beatty-faye-dunaway-present-best-picture-oscar-again

Oh hell yeah

oh dear:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkqFhfMqz9M

Everyone's going to be high as a novelty kite aren't they? Considering the legalized weed i mean.

piscesx gettin news by Pony Express :)

really don't see a Metcalf upset if the Spirits bypassed her

Stream anyone?

hi!

He's no Chris Rock, that's for damn sure.

great opening monolgue. aw Sam and Woody make me emo..

i'm watching on Proper Telly but stream advice here:
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/oscars-2018-how-stream-show-1089912?utm_source=twitter

would pay for Rockwell-Harrelson slashfic

I can't wait to find out who wins the jetski

Got one! Thanks, y'all. P. S. Hi!

Haven't seen 3B (and don't wanna), but Rockwell's speech just reminded me of how much I liked him in The Way Way Back.

Woody would be so great in bed, i think.

Eva with it!

fuck me, Eva Marie Saint is 93!

can someone cast her in a movie plz

No rooting interest this year, so I'll duck in and out. But I'm glad I caught "Fred" Hitchcock.

she looks so fantastic

hey this 'montage' before the acting awards is a neat idea

I wondered if "Fred" was a flub, or if that is what some people called him.

I'm glad their doing the montages, too. I'm a sucker for those things.

"she looks like Eva Marie Saint, in On the Waterfront"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZuIZaLHy_KQ

(xpost) I took it as what some people who were close enough to him actually called him--partly as a joke, maybe.

So, did Moonlight win or what?

jeez that's some intense looking docs

Ugh -- Agnes Varda loses.

so sad. imagine Agnes's acceptance speech

Is she even there?

Yes, saw her in a red-carpet pic with a very colorful outfit.

Mary Blige is up for an acting award? I've got to get out of the house more.

holy shit i didn't know Raphael Saadiq was up for a nom. or a third of one anyway.

not much of a tune mind..

nope

I've got to get out of the house more.

you have to get in the house more. it's a netflick.

maybe ill start watching this now

id rather watch a movie but i have money riding on this and feel compelled to watch sporadically thru whenever warren & faye do best picture at like 1am

was that just a slam poetry ad for twitter

I'd be ok with Raphael Saadiq winning on Oscar.

I'm convinced the Russian doc won just so Kimmel could make that joke about Putin.

This montage is awful

Is this just a montage of random movies?

It wouldn't be the Oscars without one.

Fuck it im gonna watch a move or listen to cum town or something
ill come back for best pic

The theme for this (and every other) year's Academy Awards is 'let's hear it for films!'

Sidney Poiter's MISTER Tibbs monologue used every goddamn time. Imagine when this was the case when the Academy was less #woke

Wish they'd include The Slap instead.

To be fair, let's hear it for films is a pretty appropriate theme for the Oscars.

Good answer, Steven.

omg this song.

Holy crap, Gael García Bernal cannot sing.

HE CAN SING TO ME

otoh the set was pure EPCOT Center 1983

No coattails this year? Technical and acting awards have gone to five different best pic nominees so far.

the song that wrote itself.

TERESA WRIGHT!

Officer, I've just been threatened with a performance by sufjan stevens

soak it up.im interested to see what he'll do in this context.

Hans Zimmer's studio is sick

*returns from bar* What'd I miss. *reviews thread* ...not much.

Nope

Ned! Get us some Negronis.

this is dull as fuck

Sufjan all stars.

Serfyan

At least the Sufjan song was short.

We’re st Vincent’s legs and heels nominated for anything?

Why is he still popular?

xp

because he writes very beautiful songs. this one is a bit meh.

KOBE BRYANT HAS AN OSCAR. AND STANLEY KUBRICK DOES NOT. L to the O to the L.

— Wesley Morris (@Wesley_Morris) March 5, 2018

Very somnambulant, morelike.

xp

to the o to the L? help me out here?

Ned! Get us some Negronis.

Tempting.

blade runner 2049 has an oscar and do the right thing does not etc to the etc etc

wow, is this dull, dull, dull.

Christ on a crutch I will never get used to hearing "Academy Award winner Matthew McConaughey."

the oscar should go to whoever made a leather reconstruction of Matthew McConaughey.

"Movies: NOT REAL" - Matthew McConaughey

this isn't working, is it?

NOT FUNNY

not anything funny yet.

approx. what time does best picture go down? i want to watch a movie

I have no complaints, but then I'm watching Karl D and Ronnie W solo on CYHMK on PBS

I feel like the explanatory speeches describing the different jobs you can win an Oscar for should be recycled. Treat them like famous monologues, compare and contrast who did it best. Maybe then the actors presenting might be less likely to phone it in, because competition.

"this is so much better than the Oscars" uh..

Why is Maya Rudolph wearing a Snuggie?

This show needs some pep i'm much tireder at this point than in previous years.

Wish I could be watching w/you guys like usual but new 4pm-1am wed-sun job sked doesn't allow it :(

xxp we just had that conversation here too, but we settled on muumuu pantsuit

this chick is great. who is she?

Shenton's professional career began at the Edinburgh fringe festival

when is best picture

after common finishes yelling at me

is this a song?

Blade Runner 2049 absolutely deserved best visual effects.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLxxbfsj8IM

This show needs some pep i'm much tireder at this point than in previous years.

Don't worry, Eddie Vedder's coming.

I've been watching the Oscars since I was a little kid, pretty much every year. But this is one of the most boring ones I've seen.

Eddie Vedder was good in Twin Peaks

this year had so much potential for hilarity. jesus this is just nothing.

theyre nervous

I, uh, no.

To help stodgy movie goers my age understand why Get Out will outlast the rest: it is to race what Doctor Strangelove was to the Cold War, a hilarious and bold satire. The other movies, no matter how good, are relatively banal in their aims and achievements.

— Rafael Yglesias (@rafaelyglesias) March 4, 2018