A Steven Spielberg Poll (1994-2018)

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It's been nearly a decade since this: Steven Spielberg post-1993: Vote for the best

Time for a redo. Not closing until a few months after the latest opens.

Poll Results

OptionVotes
A.I. Artificial Intelligence (2001) 22
Munich (2005) 19
Lincoln (2012) 14
War of the Worlds (2005) 13
Saving Private Ryan (1998) 8
Catch Me If You Can (2002) 8
Bridge of Spies (2015) 4
The Adventures of Tintin (2011) 3
Ready Player One (2018) 3
Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull (2008) 2
Minority Report (2002) 2
The Lost World: Jurassic Park (1997) 2
Amistad (1997) 1
The BFG (2016) 1
The Terminal (2004) 0
War Horse (2011) 0
The Post (2017) 0


Tarr Yang Preminger Argento Carpenter (Eric H.), Thursday, 1 February 2018 20:02 (one year ago) link

Voting for either Munich or A.I..

Tarr Yang Preminger Argento Carpenter (Eric H.), Thursday, 1 February 2018 20:05 (one year ago) link

you've seen the final cut of Ready Player One?

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 1 February 2018 20:07 (one year ago) link

Munich
A.I.
War of the Worlds
Lincoln

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 1 February 2018 20:07 (one year ago) link

Minority Report winning this last time around was a travesty. Let's do better this time, ILX.

Tarr Yang Preminger Argento Carpenter (Eric H.), Thursday, 1 February 2018 20:08 (one year ago) link

Soto about right! but i'd squeeze Bridge of Spies in, possibly 3rd. Ryan and Amistad get too much flak (around here).

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 1 February 2018 20:09 (one year ago) link

Probably Catch Me If You Can. It's one of those movies that I'm always in the mood to watch. Pure entertainment!

If they didn't ultimately fizzle out after jaw-dropping opening salvos, Saving Private Ryan and War of the Worlds would be two of the greatest films of all time.

Maybe I should endeavor to see Munich before I vote. And The BFG of course.

Senior Soft-Serve Tech at the Froyo Arroyo (Old Lunch), Thursday, 1 February 2018 20:09 (one year ago) link

Seen three of these: one blanded out a book, one was so dull I can't remember anything about it except some birdy num num shit, the third was one of two movies I've ever walked out of & snuck into something else

Haribo Hancock (sic), Thursday, 1 February 2018 20:10 (one year ago) link

Munich by a fair distance, not sure how SPR can get too much flak, it's a terrible misuse of technical facility

bizarrer Gandhara (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 1 February 2018 20:10 (one year ago) link

Seen three of these: one blanded out a book, one was so dull I can't remember anything about it except some birdy num num shit, the third was one of two movies I've ever walked out of & snuck into something else

Yeah, so which one gets your vote?

Tarr Yang Preminger Argento Carpenter (Eric H.), Thursday, 1 February 2018 20:14 (one year ago) link

They're all terrible - Spielberg butchering AI taking the fucking cake - but voting Munich. That one's sort of ok.

Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 1 February 2018 20:17 (one year ago) link

AI or Lincoln.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 1 February 2018 20:23 (one year ago) link

i rewatched minority report recently, it's fun and feels about 20 minutes too long

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Thursday, 1 February 2018 20:26 (one year ago) link

would prob vote for war of the worlds or a.i. here (i've never seen munich)

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Thursday, 1 February 2018 20:26 (one year ago) link

Saving Private Ryan probably had the biggest impact on filmmaking out of any of these. The first hour of War of the Worlds is very intense and disturbing, but it kind of falls apart after that.

Moodles, Thursday, 1 February 2018 20:29 (one year ago) link

Catch Me If You Can is always an enjoyable watch. Rest of them I could easily live without seeing again.

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 1 February 2018 20:30 (one year ago) link

The ending of A.I. is unforgivably bad

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 1 February 2018 20:31 (one year ago) link

WotW might get my vote but it really does lag in that second half, occasional beautifully apocalyptic imagery aside.

Munich is outstanding almost throughout but he sure botched a couple of those scenes in a major way and i think his handling of a pair of the assassination scenes was a bit too studied somehow, they just felt wrong.

omar little, Thursday, 1 February 2018 20:31 (one year ago) link

End of AI is one of my favorites. Ends of War of the Worlds and SPR really mess things up. End of Minority Report likewise a letdown.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 1 February 2018 20:33 (one year ago) link

Spielberg butchering AI taking the fucking cake

i'm not going here again, but what you think is wrong

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 1 February 2018 20:34 (one year ago) link

ok IT'S STANLEY'S ENDING bye

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 1 February 2018 20:34 (one year ago) link

Not sure I understand how SPR's ending is out of line with the rest of the movie.

Tarr Yang Preminger Argento Carpenter (Eric H.), Thursday, 1 February 2018 20:37 (one year ago) link

Good man speech is lame (iirc) and misleading face morph.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 1 February 2018 20:38 (one year ago) link

so easy. war of the worlds in a landslide.

scott seward, Thursday, 1 February 2018 20:49 (one year ago) link

Good directors judge if an ending is working or not then change it if they need to.

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 1 February 2018 20:51 (one year ago) link

SPR is basically if The Dirty Dozen was a violent Lifetime movie but i like it.

omar little, Thursday, 1 February 2018 20:53 (one year ago) link

as far as the rest go:

The Lost World: Jurassic Park (1997) nice if you are ten.
Amistad (1997) boring.
Saving Private Ryan (1998) cool first scene. its no big red one.
A.I. Artificial Intelligence (2001) zzzzzz....
Minority Report (2002) stupid.
Catch Me If You Can (2002) would have been better if an adult had played the lead.
The Terminal (2004) dumb.
War of the Worlds (2005) best movie of 2005.
Munich (2005) never saw it but i'm sure it's riveting. as riveting as david mamet's The Unit? time will tell. if i ever watch the movie.
Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull (2008) great if you are nine.
The Adventures of Tintin (2011) horrible and endless.
War Horse (2011) whatever.
Lincoln (2012) yeah, no, it's 8 hours long, right?
Bridge of Spies (2015) can't remember what this is.
The BFG (2016) no way in hell i am watching robin williams robot terrorize children. i already had to live through Hook.
The Post (2017) have no idea.
Ready Player One (2018) no.

scott seward, Thursday, 1 February 2018 20:54 (one year ago) link

munich is a brilliant film, hard to vote for others.

Also enjoyed:
catch me if you can
minority report
SPR
Lincoln

hoooyaaargh it's me satan (voodoo chili), Thursday, 1 February 2018 20:57 (one year ago) link

Looking over the complete list, I've still never seen Always, Amistad, The Terminal, War Horse, Bridge of Spies or BFG.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 1 February 2018 20:57 (one year ago) link

as riveting as david mamet's The Unit?

unfamiliar with this, but usu the creator being a crazed Zionist isn't productive

Mark Rylance was the BFG

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 1 February 2018 20:59 (one year ago) link

Mark Rylance is ...

"The BFG"

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 1 February 2018 21:00 (one year ago) link

1) A.I.
2) Bridge of Spies
3) Munich

Haven’t seen Terminal or Lincoln, and Post looks too drab to even MoviePass

rb (soda), Thursday, 1 February 2018 21:00 (one year ago) link

I still feel annoyed at not being properly warned about how long and how boring Lincoln was.

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 1 February 2018 21:00 (one year ago) link

i'm not going here again, but what you think is wrong

― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Thursday, February 1, 2018 8:34 PM (twenty-nine minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Tbf I was mostly baiting you. Your show of restraint is impressive.

Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 1 February 2018 21:04 (one year ago) link

as is, speaking of Hook, your refusal to age

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 1 February 2018 21:05 (one year ago) link

C-

Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 1 February 2018 21:08 (one year ago) link

i'd like to see the terminal again.

difficult listening hour, Thursday, 1 February 2018 21:24 (one year ago) link

Catch Me If You Can, if only because it is by far the most fun I've had watching a new Spielberg movie since the original JP.

iCloudius (cryptosicko), Thursday, 1 February 2018 21:38 (one year ago) link

my inclination's to go straight for the munich/wotw decision point but: i haven't seen a.i. since the theater and suspect i like it, catch me if you can is a good movie that seems to me only to benefit from its 10-year-old lead (same way the much worse django unchained uses him), and tbh i rly loved amistad when they made us watch it in 9th grade.

had somehow forgotten about literally all his post-munich stuff that isn't Annals Of The Republic even tho it is the majority, but man it is not v good imo. indy4 was dreadful and tintin was a tech demo that's hopefully v inspirational to someone. possibly i'd like the bfg.

difficult listening hour, Thursday, 1 February 2018 21:39 (one year ago) link

I liked Tintin. iirc.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 1 February 2018 21:41 (one year ago) link

Tintin had some great action sequences! Some of his best since the first JP.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mVpZTGCikM?t=55

Millennial Whoop, wanna fight about it? (Phil D.), Thursday, 1 February 2018 21:43 (one year ago) link

yr not wrong, it was weird, i was absolutely conscious of such while watching and also incredibly bored.

difficult listening hour, Thursday, 1 February 2018 21:46 (one year ago) link

Tintin had some great action sequences! Some of his best since the first JP

made it 42 seconds in before the grossness, the uncanny valley, the cutscene-level motion, the "foley", the absolute failure to understand anything at all about what makes Herge worthwhile, let alone great, and most of all: the repugnantly busy over-scoring (Williams) made me lunge for the pause button

Haribo Hancock (sic), Thursday, 1 February 2018 22:30 (one year ago) link

as dlh knows I'm a sucker for presidential hooey, and Anthony Hopkins' turn in Amistad as JQA is irresistible (and he's experiencing a comeback at the moment).

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 1 February 2018 22:49 (one year ago) link

AI with Lincoln second ( but not a close one ).

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Thursday, 1 February 2018 22:52 (one year ago) link

AI with Lincoln a not-very-close runner up

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Thursday, 1 February 2018 22:53 (one year ago) link

sorry for the double post

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Thursday, 1 February 2018 22:53 (one year ago) link

Though I love WotW until that garbage end

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Thursday, 1 February 2018 22:58 (one year ago) link

should have been a question mark after Williams

Haribo Hancock (sic), Thursday, 1 February 2018 23:14 (one year ago) link

just googled and yes

Haribo Hancock (sic), Thursday, 1 February 2018 23:15 (one year ago) link

Minority Report winning this last time around was a travesty. Let's do better this time, ILX.

― Tarr Yang Preminger Argento Carpenter (Eric H.), Thursday, 1 February 2018 20:08 (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Wrong

Alderweireld Horses (darraghmac), Friday, 2 February 2018 00:11 (one year ago) link

The Lost World: Jurassic Park (1997)- ?
Amistad (1997)- vg tbh
Saving Private Ryan (1998)- neither as good nor as had as they say
A.I. Artificial Intelligence (2001)-?
Minority Report (2002)- excellent genre exercise
Catch Me If You Can (2002)- great fun
The Terminal (2004)-?
War of the Worlds (2005)- got a bit into this once it was ungripping
Munich (2005)- sufficiently weighty themes do not save a dull and heavy effort
Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull (2008)- fucking travesty
The Adventures of Tintin (2011)-?
War Horse (2011)-?
Lincoln (2012)-?
Bridge of Spies (2015) my review of this lazy mess in the thread for this lazy mess is the best thing about this lazy mess
The BFG (2016)- you have to be kidding
The Post (2017)- fool me ten times shame on me
Ready Player One (2018)- ?

? signifies 'this guy makes more bad movies than good I skipped this it looked shit'

Alderweireld Horses (darraghmac), Friday, 2 February 2018 00:17 (one year ago) link

Like morbs will have something to say here obviously but morbs thinks that ppl who didn't like eg bridge of spies needed -get this- *more* DO YOU SEE moments and I just cant

Alderweireld Horses (darraghmac), Friday, 2 February 2018 00:23 (one year ago) link

uh no Lincoln is not shit.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 2 February 2018 00:23 (one year ago) link

BOS is mostly expendable but Lincoln is not, thanks to Kushner.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 2 February 2018 00:24 (one year ago) link

I'll consider Lincoln ty

Alderweireld Horses (darraghmac), Friday, 2 February 2018 00:25 (one year ago) link

I walked into Lincoln with trepidation expecting the Magic Kingdom's Hall of Presidents experience but I was surprised Spielberg and Kushner concentrated on Lincoln as conniving, wily politician. It has obvious moments, but so does John Ford. Deal with it.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 2 February 2018 00:26 (one year ago) link

Just clarifying: the ending everyone hates in WotW is the son being alive, right?

Mince Pramthwart (James Morrison), Friday, 2 February 2018 00:27 (one year ago) link

Wow spoiler

Alderweireld Horses (darraghmac), Friday, 2 February 2018 00:29 (one year ago) link

No, it's Spielberg losing interest one Tim Robbins enters the frame. Everything up to that point is amaaaaaaaazing, to the same extent that everything after is boooooooring.

Senior Soft-Serve Tech at the Froyo Arroyo (Old Lunch), Friday, 2 February 2018 00:32 (one year ago) link

one = once

Senior Soft-Serve Tech at the Froyo Arroyo (Old Lunch), Friday, 2 February 2018 00:32 (one year ago) link

alfred otm, lincoln is good, its limited scope (like the ford movie it covers one case) is used v well and not too violated by all spielberg's endings, ddl and tlj both excellent, strathairn too.

difficult listening hour, Friday, 2 February 2018 00:39 (one year ago) link

haven't seen bridge of spies but i saw a clip from it the other day of alan alda like CAN'T YOU JUST DROP IT WITH THIS CONSTITUTION STUFF? and i was like man idk

difficult listening hour, Friday, 2 February 2018 00:40 (one year ago) link

It was good enough to make me crave a sequel: Seward.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 2 February 2018 00:40 (one year ago) link

sally field also terrific iirc.

difficult listening hour, Friday, 2 February 2018 00:41 (one year ago) link

Yeah! Tommy Lee Jones and Bruce McGill too. A fully inhabited world.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 2 February 2018 00:44 (one year ago) link

i've only seen a few of these but adventures of tintin is the one i remember enjoying the most.

The times they are a changing, perhaps (map), Friday, 2 February 2018 00:48 (one year ago) link

I like that Spielberg made a kind of historical atrocity trilogy in Schindler, Amistad and Ryan, and then made a kind of trilogy of followups in Munich, Lincoln and Bridge of Spies. Three films which is mainly about how we survivors are indebted to those who were killed, three films that studies how that debt was in actuality handled. I should write something about that someday. Anyways, the right answer is either Amistad or Ryan.

Frederik B, Friday, 2 February 2018 01:50 (one year ago) link

Minority Report needs a rewatch, I remember it being fine until it turned into a bad TV cop show (or a Blade Runner sequel) in the last 15 minutes.

Aside from the somewhat pedestrian courtroom stuff, Amistad is piercing.

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Friday, 2 February 2018 02:28 (one year ago) link

i remember the middle passage stuff in amistad being fully as vivid and terrible as the opening of ryan. inevitably less celebrated.

difficult listening hour, Friday, 2 February 2018 03:11 (one year ago) link

Yeah, the middle passage stuff is what makes Amistad. Steven Spielberg is a good historical filmmaker because he fully believes in the power of cinema to describe the unimaginably horrific. Which is naive, and he's probably wrong, but there's a kinetic force to his best stuff, which a lot of other historical filmmakers won't even aspire to.

The courtroom stuff is fairly pedestrian, though, and he does sorta pull his punches. But I kinda think he does that in Schindler as well.

Frederik B, Friday, 2 February 2018 09:26 (one year ago) link

as riveting as david mamet's The Unit?

unfamiliar with this, but usu the creator being a crazed Zionist isn't productive


The (Mamet-penned iirc) episode with the Iranian embassy had some pretty nuanced Persian characters at a time when muslims were generally portrayed as beardy terrist savages on U.S. T.V.

Wes Brodicus, Friday, 2 February 2018 09:46 (one year ago) link

i'm standin' on a bridge of spies
i'm sick of hearin' all these goddamn lies

(the blues version in his Broadway show) (crüt), Friday, 2 February 2018 13:36 (one year ago) link

i haven't actually seen any of these except The Lost World

(the blues version in his Broadway show) (crüt), Friday, 2 February 2018 13:36 (one year ago) link

This is WOTW, Munich or Lincoln for me. I'm not bothered by the WOTW ending, it's a loose approximation of exactly what happens in the original novel regarding the narrator and his wife. They're separated relatively early on, he believes she's been killed in an attack, he finds her alive at the end of the novel. NBD.

Millennial Whoop, wanna fight about it? (Phil D.), Friday, 2 February 2018 15:41 (one year ago) link

shocked to realize i've only sat through lost world, AI, CMIYC, crystal skull, and tintin. a range of competencies and errors on display there. and several things to like a lot. but nothing that gets me like the big hitters in the earlier period. if i were voting just on those five it'd be CMIYC eeeeeeeasy, that movie rules, but clearly i'm out of my depth here. somehow most of these have always felt like it'd be Work to sit down and watch them, even tom cruise waving his hands around and hiding from aliens.

Righteous wax chaperone, rotating Wingdings (Doctor Casino), Friday, 2 February 2018 18:50 (one year ago) link

i did not sit thru Lost World bz i did sit thru JP

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Friday, 2 February 2018 19:30 (one year ago) link

I got off the boat with Munich, which I thought was just horrendous. Ponderous, politically a lot of liberal zionist drivel, with some terribly filmed "action" sequences. The scene were Bana has overwrought movie sex with his wife interspersed with images of the massacre on the airfield is just abominable.

Catch me if you can is the only one of these I would watch again.

khat person (jim in vancouver), Friday, 2 February 2018 19:31 (one year ago) link

What morbs you love Spielberg but not jp?!

scrüt (wins), Friday, 2 February 2018 19:33 (one year ago) link

no, fuck dinosaurs too

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Friday, 2 February 2018 19:33 (one year ago) link

politically a lot of liberal zionist drivel

hmmm not sure about this

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Friday, 2 February 2018 19:34 (one year ago) link

Posts very much out of character - I thought you only liked a bunch of dinosaur movies

scrüt (wins), Friday, 2 February 2018 19:35 (one year ago) link

War of the Worlds. saw it twice in theaters, the initial escape sequence made me bawl both times. the best post-9/11 movie. by far the best adaptation of the source material

flappy bird, Friday, 2 February 2018 19:35 (one year ago) link

Yeah isn't Eric Bana pretty much off the Zionist boat by the end of the movie? He's more or less, "Fuck an Israel, this shit gets us nowhere, I just want my wife and kids safe." And I mean the closing shot is pretty much "Backing the hardcore Zionists is going to get us 9/11."

Millennial Whoop, wanna fight about it? (Phil D.), Friday, 2 February 2018 19:38 (one year ago) link

a mossad agent who signs up to do wet-work but is impossibly conflicted over killing palestinians who are members of the black september organization is just a huge stretch.

the moral of the story really seems to be something along the lines of israel is great but loses moral authority if it resorts to bad violence like the palestinians and so should be nicer.

khat person (jim in vancouver), Friday, 2 February 2018 19:40 (one year ago) link

he scene were Bana has overwrought movie sex with his wife interspersed with images of the massacre on the airfield is just abominable.

eh you're just jealous Bana isn't having sex with you

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 2 February 2018 19:41 (one year ago) link

Eric Bana is a huge stretch alright

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Friday, 2 February 2018 19:43 (one year ago) link

More like Eric Banal am I right

Millennial Whoop, wanna fight about it? (Phil D.), Friday, 2 February 2018 19:44 (one year ago) link

Either saving private ryan or ai for me

infinity (∞), Friday, 2 February 2018 19:47 (one year ago) link

that's pretty good! one in a row. xxp

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Friday, 2 February 2018 19:48 (one year ago) link

morbz, i share yr general admiration for spielberg but yr selective snobbery is a little hard for me to fathom, i can't say i can identify any sensible reason to snort at the subject matter of jurassic park and then turn around and praise ET or close encounters. are aliens somehow more "serious" than dinosaurs?

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Friday, 2 February 2018 20:44 (one year ago) link

Go below the surface. They're just better films. (fwiw i like King Kong (1933), which has dinosaurs)

and stop taking me soooo seriously

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Friday, 2 February 2018 20:47 (one year ago) link

the 33 king kong is better, i'll grant you that

btw the silent lost world, which i watched recently, feels in some ways like more of a spielberg movie than the actual lost world he directed

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Friday, 2 February 2018 20:50 (one year ago) link

i don't recall seeing that one either

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Friday, 2 February 2018 20:51 (one year ago) link

It occurs to me that in Jaws he treats the shark, which is just an animal ("a miracle of nature, really . . .") as a monster; in JP he treats the dinosaurs, which we would consider "monsters," as just animals. The 'raptors are plenty scary, and smart, but they're just doing what nature intended. The shark appears to genuinely have it in for people.

Millennial Whoop, wanna fight about it? (Phil D.), Friday, 2 February 2018 21:36 (one year ago) link

(And of course the Quint story arc, dramatic irony, etc. If Spielberg had kept the more cynical Crichton JP ending with Hammond dying and the island being bombed to smithereens, it might be considered his best film!)

Millennial Whoop, wanna fight about it? (Phil D.), Friday, 2 February 2018 21:37 (one year ago) link

yeah, JP is def an advance over jaws in that respect. there's not really any attempt in jaws to depict the shark as a real animal or anything but a projection of pure fear. it may be the only great monster movie where you never get close to identifying w/ the monster.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Friday, 2 February 2018 21:49 (one year ago) link

there's not really any attempt in jaws to depict the shark as a real animal or anything but a projection of pure fear

I prefer this. So did Fidel Castro, apparently.

http://www.critical-theory.com/watch-zizek-jaws-fascism/

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Friday, 2 February 2018 22:15 (one year ago) link

I think Spielberg "Land Before Timing" up the innocent herbivores early on in JP was probably narratively ok for the purposes of lulling the characters into complacency but I think the real-life monster hiding in the depths in Jaws is handled better. It's also a much funnier and scarier film w/better characters. There's probably an argument one could make against the Mayor being the Dwayne T. Robinson of the film, just there to get in the way, but Murray Hamilton is great in that part.

omar little, Friday, 2 February 2018 22:19 (one year ago) link

jurassic park is not as good a movie as king kong it's true, but that's about it. (the allusion to one in the other is sublime. a snob might want goldblum's line dropped and the gates left to do the work themselves but... "whaddathey got in there?" is a fertile phrase, like someone approaching a tent, or a nickelodeon)

difficult listening hour, Friday, 2 February 2018 22:19 (one year ago) link

Watched me some Bridge of Spies tonight. Plenty of good value to make up for the inevitable eye-roll-y schmaltz. I've just come to accept Spielbergia as a magic realist world at this point, where folks on the train collectively scowl at you from behind eighteen different newspapers detailing your shameful exploits and subsequently gaze upon you wonderingly once they realize they had you all wrong, friend. I don't look to him for ambiguous nuance and unanswerable questions and I thusly remain rarely disappointed.

Cork Taint (Old Lunch), Saturday, 3 February 2018 06:29 (one year ago) link

That's just writing a blank cheque

Alderweireld Horses (darraghmac), Saturday, 3 February 2018 09:22 (one year ago) link

The thing about Munich is that it's supposed to be about the bad things that Mossad did, but it leaves out the worst thing they did, the murder of the completely innocent Ahmed Bouchiki. That's where it kinda becomes drivel. It's depiction of sex is awful as well, both the intercut scene mentioned above, but also the whole thing with the assassin. It's a film about historical trauma that is awful about actually depicting that trauma.

Frederik B, Saturday, 3 February 2018 10:40 (one year ago) link

Munich or Lincoln. Minority Report is the best action one he's done since the 80s, but let down by a rubbish third act.

chap, Saturday, 3 February 2018 12:59 (one year ago) link

Catch Me If You Can is always an enjoyable watch. Rest of them I could easily live without seeing again.

― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, February 1, 2018 8:30 PM (two days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

otm

lest anybody forget, The Lost World is the movie where a pre-teen gymnast somersaults and kicks over a dinosaur that weighs several tons.

fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Saturday, 3 February 2018 14:17 (one year ago) link

Catch Me If You Can is always an enjoyable watch. Rest of them I could easily live without seeing again.

It might be the only one of these I have seen twice - and the drop off in my appreciation the second time was massive.

chap, Saturday, 3 February 2018 14:26 (one year ago) link

Catch Me If You Can is such a great small movie, and perhaps the last time Christopher Walken has or will ever be cast as anything but a weirdo.

I've wondered how recognizable later Spielberg would be if had a different DP. It's amazing that they have worked on almost 20 movies together, but I'd argue Kaminski is still a controversial choice, or at the very least, for such a frequent collaboration they hardly have a reputation as some sort of classic movie team. Vs., say, Deakins and the Coen Brothers, say.

I do say that Spielberg's '90s/'00s productive streak is pretty mind-boggling. About 11 movies between '93 and 2004, with Jurassic Park and Schindler's the same year, Lost World and Amistad the same year, Minority Report and Catch Me If You Can the same year, and War of the Worlds and Munich the same year. That's pretty nuts.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 3 February 2018 14:33 (one year ago) link

and Tintin and War Horse!

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 3 February 2018 14:40 (one year ago) link

Does Munich have the most explicit sex scene in a Spielberg movie?

I’ve always felt it was 100% Kushner’s idea and Spielberg just filmed it exactly as written. Just not an idea I can associate with him. (I’m agnostic on the value of the scene.)

ryan, Saturday, 3 February 2018 14:57 (one year ago) link

The one in ET nearly garnered an X-rating iirc.

Cork Taint (Old Lunch), Saturday, 3 February 2018 15:15 (one year ago) link

sorry thought the Munich sex scene was entirely fitting and thematically sound

Fred, movies leave things out all the time, that's why they're not TV series, you git

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 3 February 2018 15:44 (one year ago) link

two months pass...

Sooo ... who's voting Ready Player One?! Nick Pinkerton, perhaps.

Unconflictedly loving Ready Player One is my heel turn.

— BANDZ STACKHAGE (@NickPinkerton) April 3, 2018

"But you have to admit the hot-girl-with-a-minor-physical-flaw thing is pretty cliché?" "NO I DON'T IT'S PURE AND BEAUTIFUL SORRY A NARCISSISTIC CULTURE OF FALSE AFFIRMATION HAS MADE IT IMPOSSIBLE FOR YOU TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT VULNERABILITY AND INSECURITY EVEN EXIST FUCK YOU."

— BANDZ STACKHAGE (@NickPinkerton) April 3, 2018

"Minneapolis" (barf) (Eric H.), Wednesday, 4 April 2018 14:50 (one year ago) link

Tough choice between AI and Lincoln. The kid won.

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Wednesday, 4 April 2018 15:01 (one year ago) link

Tough call between AI and Lincoln for me. The kid won.

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Wednesday, 4 April 2018 15:02 (one year ago) link

sorry - first post didn't go through hence the repost

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Wednesday, 4 April 2018 15:03 (one year ago) link

Holy shit I already voted/posted/reposted to this thread back in February. Awful deja vu.

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Wednesday, 4 April 2018 15:05 (one year ago) link

Pinkerton's twitter is consistently embarrassing.

I intend on giving RPO a shot at some point, Spielberg elevated a weak novel to classic status once, I imagine he can elevate a shitty one to "good."

omar little, Wednesday, 4 April 2018 15:16 (one year ago) link

of those I've seen, after scott:

Saving Private Ryan - an expert gilding of midcentury ball hairs w/ embossed face of hanks
A.I. Artificial Intelligence - okay when the kid is not visible, idea totally stolen off kubrick
Minority Report - stupid oopid
Catch Me If You Can - good enough to justify leo
War of the Worlds - not good enough to justify tom
Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull - odysseus arrives home after a long absence to find a small turd on his pillow
The Adventures of Tintin - ...to find america's greatest living director modeling trousers fashioned from the skin of argos
Lincoln - aside from that, how was the play?

not quite as cool as seeing damo's wang but (contenderizer), Thursday, 5 April 2018 05:11 (one year ago) link

war of the worlds. saw it twice in theaters & cried both times when they're escaping the city

flappy bird, Thursday, 5 April 2018 05:14 (one year ago) link

A.I. Artificial Intelligence - okay when the kid is not visible, idea totally stolen off kubrick

huh?

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 5 April 2018 12:43 (one year ago) link

We have to go thru the AI story a lot on ilx huh?

bad left terf nut (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 5 April 2018 12:46 (one year ago) link

p sure that was a gag post

explosion from DOOM courtesy of id software (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 5 April 2018 12:46 (one year ago) link

Sorry contendo

bad left terf nut (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 5 April 2018 12:48 (one year ago) link

p sure that was a gag post

― explosion from DOOM courtesy of id software (Doctor Casino)

I thought so at first until I read the rest of the dismissals.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 5 April 2018 12:58 (one year ago) link

Did it pass the Turing test?

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Thursday, 5 April 2018 13:14 (one year ago) link

Prep work, Alfred. I got internet dickhole finals tomorrow.

not quite as cool as seeing damo's wang but (contenderizer), Thursday, 5 April 2018 14:42 (one year ago) link

And you're still boning up on Spielberg Bashing 101? Better pull an all-nighter.

"Minneapolis" (barf) (Eric H.), Thursday, 5 April 2018 14:45 (one year ago) link

For students who get a 70 or below, I got a velociraptor waiting.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 5 April 2018 14:46 (one year ago) link

A.I. is one of the handful of movies I will defend to the death (precisely because of the ways it seems to get away from its director?) but that I cannot stomach sitting down to watch again.

ryan, Thursday, 5 April 2018 15:14 (one year ago) link

(I guess it's also the kind of work where "intention" doesn't seem to matter...)

ryan, Thursday, 5 April 2018 15:15 (one year ago) link

tbf, I haven't seen most of these, so I won't vote.

I will say that the D-Day landing scene of Saving Private Ryan was some of the most brilliant filmmaking I've ever seen. Spielberg also indulged in some scenes that were so thickly sentimental and schmaltzy that they nearly ruined the movie for me.

A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 5 April 2018 15:50 (one year ago) link

Have you seen a lot of WW2 films from the '40s and the '50s? Many of them are more "sentimental."

the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 5 April 2018 16:05 (one year ago) link

Yes. That is so. But the existence of worse doesn't elevate what is bad.

A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 5 April 2018 16:11 (one year ago) link

D Day scene in '..Ryan' must surely be one of the most influential sequences of all time. I wish i could vote for that by itself.

Only saw WOTW recently and the effects looked dated as all hell.

piscesx, Thursday, 5 April 2018 16:28 (one year ago) link

the D-Day scene is really something else. unlike a lot of battle scenes which are gory and thrilling and not especially a tough watch, this one is extremely tough viewing. definitely pioneered the use of the "editing out every other frame" technique to create a more jarring sense of reality, and it made sense with the industrial terror of that kind of battle. actually a very good signifier of Gladiator being shit is when Ridley Scott used that same technique in that film's battle scenes, just trying to make the film and its boring story more dynamic and deciding to use a technique that simply didn't belong or make sense.

omar little, Thursday, 5 April 2018 16:54 (one year ago) link

three months pass...

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Thursday, 5 July 2018 00:01 (one year ago) link

Oh right, this one.

I Never Promised You A Hose Harden (Eric H.), Thursday, 5 July 2018 13:04 (one year ago) link

Well, it ain't Ready Player One, in any case.

I Never Promised You A Hose Harden (Eric H.), Thursday, 5 July 2018 13:05 (one year ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Friday, 6 July 2018 00:01 (one year ago) link

wow!

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 6 July 2018 00:05 (one year ago) link

I think the top 3 are otm (tho I'd flip 1 & 2)

the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Friday, 6 July 2018 00:07 (one year ago) link

Given the twaddle written about Spielberg on this board, that top three astonishes me.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 6 July 2018 00:11 (one year ago) link

a loud minority perhaps (or they don't vote)

the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Friday, 6 July 2018 00:31 (one year ago) link

Don’t see how a better version of what Lincoln is could exist, it is a heist movie where the heist is the 13th Amendment, and I love a good heist.

devops mom (silby), Friday, 6 July 2018 00:45 (one year ago) link

Yes. I saw it again three months ago and every time I cringed at an indelicacy I wonder who else could have commissioned this script and these performances -- how the fuck else could this have been made?

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 6 July 2018 00:51 (one year ago) link

I approve of Minority Report's swan dive from 25 votes to 2.

I Never Promised You A Hose Harden (Eric H.), Friday, 6 July 2018 03:12 (one year ago) link

And the top 4 is the right 4, regardless of order.

I Never Promised You A Hose Harden (Eric H.), Friday, 6 July 2018 03:15 (one year ago) link

Who on earth would vote for the BFG?

nate woolls, Friday, 6 July 2018 08:06 (one year ago) link

2 votes for crystal skull = you dont wanna base much on these results, ppl are fuckin with you

The opening scene of Crystal Skull is really good.

Alba, Friday, 6 July 2018 10:20 (one year ago) link

the fridge

youre talking about the fridge

two months pass...

a.i. is on hulu rn btw

i tried rewatching it last night and... it's a great movie but also one of the most emotionally traumatic things i've ever seen

princess of hell (BradNelson), Monday, 10 September 2018 16:03 (one year ago) link

Still as fine a set of poll results as this board ever produced.

I Never Promised You A Hose Harden (Eric H.), Monday, 10 September 2018 16:25 (one year ago) link

one month passes...

Comic I respect: Ugh, BernieBros.
Me: Sure, whatever.

Comic I respect: AI is the 14th best Spielberg movie.
Me: Who the fuck do you think you are?

— 🎃 Jake-o'-lantern 🎃 (@FilmBart) October 22, 2018

I Never Promised You A Hose Harden (Eric H.), Monday, 22 October 2018 17:43 (eleven months ago) link


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