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Send ballots to i l x 2017 film poll @ g ma il . c o m
Maximum of 25 votes, minimum of 10. All weighted, with first at the top of the list and on down. Please do not number them, as it makes the tabulating process tedious and I always forget to mention that.
Anything that was screened in a cinema is eligible*, just remember that if it only played in a film festival near you or it was a reissue of an old movie it will probably not place, or you might split the votes between this year and next year when it is released, but it's up to you.
*Yes, Twin Peaks screened in a cinema, all of it, so there you go.
Ballots in by 7pm EST on March 4th (Oscar Night), so putting it all together will give me something to do during the broadcast other than tweet.
― Gukbe, Saturday, 3 February 2018 00:39 (six years ago) link
Yay!
― Cherish, Saturday, 3 February 2018 01:50 (six years ago) link
When you say screened in a cinema do you mean screened in a cinema in any country in the world?
― i know kore-eda (or something), Saturday, 3 February 2018 02:17 (six years ago) link
That question is very confrontational.
― clemenza, Saturday, 3 February 2018 02:24 (six years ago) link
I can't do a full ballot, but I can put together at least 10.
― WilliamC, Saturday, 3 February 2018 03:26 (six years ago) link
Is Twin Peaks one slot or 18?
― Tarr Yang Preminger Argento Carpenter (Eric H.), Saturday, 3 February 2018 03:29 (six years ago) link
Thanks for doing this again Gukbe.
― Agharta Christie (Ward Fowler), Saturday, 3 February 2018 03:43 (six years ago) link
― i know kore-eda (or something), Saturday, February 3, 2018 2:17 AM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Yes. Not restricted to US (Academy) rules.
― Tarr Yang Preminger Argento Carpenter (Eric H.), Saturday, February 3, 2018 3:29 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I think Lynch sees it as one movie, and anyway, for those who don't consider it TV, I imagine they'd look at it as one work. So yes, it all counts as one. Anyone throws an "Episode 8" or what have you on their ballot, I'm gonna go ahead and count it as an entry for the full. If they list several episodes, I'll count the highest and discard the rest.
― Gukbe, Saturday, 3 February 2018 04:58 (six years ago) link
As far as streaming films goes, I think they've mostly all had some sort of limited release to quality for Academy Awards. I know Mudbound played in DC, and the Baumbach had a run in LA and NY. Those shouldn't be an issue.
― Gukbe, Saturday, 3 February 2018 05:00 (six years ago) link
xp glad we've established that it's E8 that's the next level one
― Tarr Yang Preminger Argento Carpenter (Eric H.), Saturday, 3 February 2018 05:00 (six years ago) link
sweet, sent my ballot in, 25 was fun. i didn't feel comfortable putting twin peaks in my top 10 at the expense of actual movies but w/e
― flappy bird, Saturday, 3 February 2018 06:12 (six years ago) link
this is before i can do a rewatch of Nocturama, so i won't be voting.
always in a fucking hurry...
(also TP is bullshit and will win)
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 3 February 2018 07:45 (six years ago) link
nice of you to fix it, gukbe
If it's good enough for cahiers du cinema, it's good enough for me (also we have the precedents in this poll of the OJ doc and Arabian Nights) - if anything I wonder if this year there'll be a significant number of voters that would do away with the theatrical screening rule, so they could vote for Gerald's Game or whatever
― scrüt (wins), Saturday, 3 February 2018 10:21 (six years ago) link
Cahiers du cinema? Seriously?!
Arabian Nights had a cinematic release (it was shit, so the only crime was to like it). I wasn't impressed that OJ and now TP will get in. Its a fix, why don't we just do a cinema/TV poll then?
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 3 February 2018 13:04 (six years ago) link
Thanks Gukbe for doing it but come on.
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 3 February 2018 13:05 (six years ago) link
Maybe you can get a Javascript applet that will strip Twin Peaks out of the final ranking and move everything else up one.
― Alba, Saturday, 3 February 2018 13:40 (six years ago) link
The first two episodes of Twin Peaks was shown in cinemas, and it's hard arguing against that as a pure cinematic experience. And once that box is opened, better just clump it all together. It's great, but I won't be voting for it, but it'll definitely place, but we all know the true winner is The Florida Project and/or Janbal.
― Frederik B, Saturday, 3 February 2018 15:58 (six years ago) link
The whole thing was shown in a cinema
― scrüt (wins), Saturday, 3 February 2018 16:25 (six years ago) link
"Yes Darling, But is It Cinema?" A mini-explanation by Gukbe
The first time I did this poll, I started with the idea that it would be based on Academy rules (commercial release in NY or LA for at least a week in the calendar year). The idea was to limit the number of films eligible and level the playing field (if someone saw a film at a festival and nobody else would see it until the next year, it would dilute the vote by spreading it over years, etc). This was obviously unworkable, if only because other countries have different release dates. For instance, Ladybird isn't out in the UK until March. So I relented, and even if it wasn't necessarily fair to a film that it was screened at a festival (You got to go to TIFF? Awesome, but most of us don't), it would be an arbitrary distinction. So, let people vote for what they feel to head off complaints.
So what's the restriction? Most of us can't see Nocturama in the theater, but there it is, streaming on Netflix. The best I could come up with was that as long as it had a public screening in a cinema, it counts. O.J. felt more TV to me, but it was screened. Twin Peaks is somewhat similar, because even though Lynch considers it a movie, and it wasn't really written episodically (the Bang Bang Club epilogues felt like they were added in rather than part of the whole), I watched it week by week and that's a different experience for me. Other arguments are available, including the excellent Nick Pinkerton piece linked in the Detrius thread. But really, the whole thing was screened at MoMa, so how could I not include it without it being arbitrarily taking a side and not wanting to include it in the results?
If you don't think it counts, make an argument and convince people.
And sorry, Morbs, but I can't dwell on the previous year longer than 3 months.
― Gukbe, Saturday, 3 February 2018 16:59 (six years ago) link
I'm still working on 2015.
but there it is, streaming on Netflix
ah so that's who sponsors this poll
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 3 February 2018 17:14 (six years ago) link
the whole thing was screened at MoMa
Was this some cynical cash-in? Who were the suckers who went?
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 3 February 2018 19:44 (six years ago) link
They hold free screenings of notable films near the end of the year; I think Twin Peaks was part of that series.
― one way street, Saturday, 3 February 2018 19:47 (six years ago) link
fwiw, were we running this back in their respective years I don't think Berlin Alexanderplatz or Fanny and Alexander or Carlos should've been on the poll. They were made for TV, whatever its cinematic qualities (also whether Lynch considers it a film or not is neither here nor there - it lived on a different format, whatever the odd screening at the cinema might otherwise say) xp = cool thanks. Here Berlin Alexanderplatz got a screening or two. I mean that's fine if you wanted to see it that way and its part of a retro, it just lived in a different way.
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 3 February 2018 19:52 (six years ago) link
I'd rather have a poll anyway - just remarking the result will be odd.
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 3 February 2018 19:55 (six years ago) link
Well personally I'm gonna be voting for stuff that I didn't get to see in a theatre but watched on MUBI or bluray, so I'm already a sinner in thinking something can live in more than one wayBut even if TP wasn't obviously better film in 2017 than "film in 2017" was, it placing would still be valuable for annoying the type of person that would be annoyed by it
― scrüt (wins), Saturday, 3 February 2018 23:23 (six years ago) link
Well, this has got off to a good start
― i know kore-eda (or something), Sunday, 4 February 2018 00:54 (six years ago) link
I'm only going to vote for stuff I watched on my smartphone this year so my ballot is mostly going to be made up of Luke Cage episodes
― Well bissogled trotters (Michael B), Sunday, 4 February 2018 02:08 (six years ago) link
Berlin Alexanderplatz, Fanny and Alexander & Carlos were all released first in cinemas in the US.
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 4 February 2018 02:48 (six years ago) link
At least four critics and two civilian Lynchdorks I know, and about 344 others. Full theater for 3 days.
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 4 February 2018 03:03 (six years ago) link
Carlos was also screened here - the shorter theatrical version (F&A has one as well). Counting those would be to their detriment, depends on the edit.
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 4 February 2018 09:48 (six years ago) link
Twin Peaks was shown in cinema first in France.
― Frederik B, Sunday, 4 February 2018 10:29 (six years ago) link
So much hand-wringing over something that takes care of itself. With or without Twin Peaks, it seems fairly obvious to me that Phantom Thread will win. Excepting myself and a couple of other people, there's been universal swoon over it on ILX.
― clemenza, Sunday, 4 February 2018 14:08 (six years ago) link
Rest assured: I'll do what I can to get A Quiet Passion, The Ornithologist, or The Lost City of Z up there.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 4 February 2018 14:12 (six years ago) link
Same, plus Personal Shopper and Nocturama
― Tarr Yang Preminger Argento Carpenter (Eric H.), Sunday, 4 February 2018 18:41 (six years ago) link
I can't think of anything better 2017 movies than the 5 just mentioned there.
― calzino, Sunday, 4 February 2018 18:49 (six years ago) link
does L’Économie du couple count as a 2017 movie?
― calzino, Sunday, 4 February 2018 18:55 (six years ago) link
Personal shopper feels like it came out ages ago (I still haven't seen it)
― scrüt (wins), Sunday, 4 February 2018 18:57 (six years ago) link
I thought it was brilliant, and along with Nocturama and A Quiet Passion it will be my top 3.
― calzino, Sunday, 4 February 2018 19:01 (six years ago) link
Of the following films, which are eligible:
Toni Erdmann, Certain Women, Personal shopper, elle, the handmaiden,the love witch, hell or high water
― i know kore-eda (or something), Sunday, 4 February 2018 19:10 (six years ago) link
I think you'll find that at least three of those 'placed' last year, but hey everything's eligible
so i encourage votes for any and all Welles films
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 4 February 2018 19:20 (six years ago) link
Last year's results, fwiw ...
Toni Erdmann 475 18Manchester By The Sea 379 15American Honey 300 10Moonlight 297 11Things to Come 271 10Paterson 247 11Cameraperson 244 9Embrace of the Serpent 239 10Certain Women 223 8Elle 216 9O.J.: Made in America 209 6Silence 206 9Love & Friendship 186 9The Handmaiden 185 8Cemetery of Splendour 178 5The Witch 168 8Arabian Nights 165 5I Am Not Your Negro 163 7Green Room 160 8Hell or High Water 143 8The Assassin 143 5The Neon Demon 141 7I, Daniel Blake 137 6Son of Saul 129 5Hail, Casear! 118 5Victoria 115 6A Bigger Splash 114 4Mountains May Depart 112 4The Other Side 111 4The Measure of a Man 108 4Hunt for the Wilderpeople 92 6Weiner Dog 91 4Everybody Wants Some!! 85 5Little Men 85 5Childhood of a Leader 83 3Knight of Cups 83 4Fire At Sea 82 4No Home Movie 82 4Sunset Song 82 3The Death of Louis XIV 81 3Loving 77 420th Century Women 76 5Arrival 73 5Sieranevada 72 2The Fits 71 4Jackie 70 4High Rise 69 3The Lobster 68 4Sing Street 66 3Anomalisa 65 3Maggie's Plan 65 3Indignation 63 3Tower 63 3Pearl Button 62 2Rams 57 4De Palma 56 2The Love Witch 56 2Zootopia 56 3Our Little Sister 50 3The Club 47 3Eisenstein in Guanajuato 46 2Aferim 45 2La La Land 42 2Train to Busan 41 2A Quiet Passion 40 1Being 17 40 1Visit or Memories and Confessions 40 1Weiner 39 2Chevalier 38 2The Woman Who Left 38 2Deapool 37 2Under the Shadow 37 2When Marnie Was There 37 2White Girl 36 1Tale of Tales 35 3Dirty Grandpa 33 1Julieta 33 2Mustang 33 2The Nice Guys 33 1The Red Turtle 33 2Remainder 32 2My Golden Days 31 3Happy Hour 30 1Kubo and the Two Strings 30 1Nocturnal Animals 30 2Standing Tall 30 1Hypernormalisation 29 2Right Now, Wrong THen 29 2The Illinois Parables 29 2Captain America: Civil War 28 1Cosmos 28 1Scarred Hearts 28 1Keanu 26 2Nothing Left Unsaid 26 1The Greasy Strangler 26 1The Wialing 26 1Evolution 25 2Ixcanul 25 1Kate Plays Christine 25 2Men and Chicken 25 2Popstar: Never Stop Never Stopping 25 2Supersonic 25 1Swiss Army Man 25 1Couple in a Hole 24 2In the Last Days of the city 24 1Lemonade 24 1Mapplethorpe: Look at Pictures 24 1Queen of Katwe 24 2Triple 9 24 1Into the Inferno 23 1Mimosas 23 1The Edge of Seventeen 23 1The Invitation 23 1A Lullaby to the Sorrowful Mystery 22 1Aaaaaaah! 22 1Author: THe JT LeRoy Story 22 1Christine 22 1Florence Foster Jenkins 22 1Passengers 22 1The Treasure 22 1Dog Eat Dog 21 1Kaili Blues 21 1The Son of Joseph 21 1Tickled 21 1Your Name 21 4Histoire(s) Du cinema 20 1The Ornithologist 20 1Girls Lost 19 1The Hateful Eight 19 1Don't Think Twice 18 1Neruda 18 1Not Film 18 110 Cloverfield Lane 17 2Aquarius 17 1Creepy 17 1Eat That Question: Frank Zappa... 17 1King Jack 17 1Nocturama 17 1Serena 17 1A Town Called Panic: Back in School 16 1El Sur 16 1I Am Not A Serial Killer 16 1Louder than Bombs 16 1The Jungle Book 16 1Doctor Strange 15 1Don't Blink 15 1In the Shadow of Women 15 1Captain Fantastic 14 1Harmonium 14 1Le Fils de Joseph 14 1My Friend from the Park 14 1Neon Bull 14 2Other People 14 1February 13 1Star Trek Beyond 13 1Sully 13 1Janis: Little Girl Blue 12 1Sweet Bean 12 1Hacksaw Ridge 11 1Halfway 11 1Microbe and Gasoline 11 1The Happiest Day in the Life of Olli Maki 11 1The Sundial Carved with a Thousand... 11 1Uncle Kent 2 11 1American Pastoral 10 1JLG/JLG 10 1The United States of Love 10 1Godless 9 1King Lear 9 1Sweaty Betty 9 1Cafe Society 8 1One Sings, the Other Doesn't 8 1The Untamed 8 1In the Realm of the Sense 7 1Papusza 7 1The Last Family 7 1
― Tarr Yang Preminger Argento Carpenter (Eric H.), Sunday, 4 February 2018 19:37 (six years ago) link
I see The Death of Louis XIV got some votes last year.
This year too
― scrüt (wins), Sunday, 4 February 2018 19:42 (six years ago) link
Yeah thanks I knew I'd voted for some of those last year but they definitely didn't get a British release til this year
― i know kore-eda (or something), Sunday, 4 February 2018 20:01 (six years ago) link
Perhaps we should make something that placed in the previous year ineligible for the following. I dunno seems unfair on some but I don't wanna vote toni erdmann film of the year 2 years running eg (tbh I might have it at 2 or 3 this time around but still)
― i know kore-eda (or something), Sunday, 4 February 2018 20:04 (six years ago) link
Has anything got votes 3 years running yet?
― scrüt (wins), Sunday, 4 February 2018 20:08 (six years ago) link
Perhaps we should make something that placed in the previous year ineligible for the following.
I strongly disagree w/ this. I purposely didn't vote for Toni Erdmann last year because I knew I would want to to vote for it in this year's poll, 2017 being the year it got a cinema release in Britain and the year that I first saw it.
― Agharta Christie (Ward Fowler), Sunday, 4 February 2018 20:46 (six years ago) link
I also didn't get to see Scorsese's Silence until the very beginning of 2017, but I didn't include any of the staggered release movies that I also loved in early 2017 (Julieta, Toni Erdmann, Elle). I guess I go by Oscar qualifications, cf. Personal Shopper, which came out in the USA in March 2017 and didn't qualify for the Oscars despite opening in many other countries in 2016. And yeah honestly I feel like putting Twin Peaks in is fishy, as much as Lynch says it's one long movie it's not, it wasn't made for the cinema, it was made for television. I still put it on my ballot because this is a message board poll and I loved Twin Peaks and ultimately idgaf but it's definitely not the same as Fanny and Alexander, which had a 3 hour theatrical cut released to theaters in America before anyone had access to the TV version. anyway
― flappy bird, Sunday, 4 February 2018 21:43 (six years ago) link
― Agharta Christie (Ward Fowler), Sunday, 4 February 2018 20:46 (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag
I'm cool with that but it means I'm going to vote for a few films I voted for last year
― i know kore-eda (or something), Sunday, 4 February 2018 21:59 (six years ago) link
Toni Erdmann WON last year? i am getting better at forgetting the results of these polls almost instantly.
these slo-mo releases are a good argument for delaying such decisions til July.
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Monday, 5 February 2018 01:33 (six years ago) link
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― Alba, Monday, 5 February 2018 07:36 (six years ago) link
Poll sent!
― Agharta Christie (Ward Fowler), Monday, 5 February 2018 12:27 (six years ago) link
Ballot sent!
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 5 February 2018 21:09 (six years ago) link
You guys are voting so early! Have you seen everything? There’s still time to watch some good stuff by female directors:
My Happy FamilyOn Body and SoulBy the Time It Gets DarkBerlin Syndrome
― Cherish, Friday, 9 February 2018 00:43 (six years ago) link
I have a ballot ready to go, but I'm holding off sending it until March 1st or so.
― WilliamC, Friday, 9 February 2018 03:14 (six years ago) link
I can't see The Florida Project until February 20, so I have to wait until then at least.
But, seriously, those four I listed are very good. I don't want to be the only one who votes for them!
― Cherish, Sunday, 11 February 2018 19:59 (six years ago) link
I def wanted to see On Body and Soul when MUBI was showing it but I didn't get round to it. Missed By the Time It Gets Dark in its one week run. Sadly there is only so much time.
I put The Nothing Factory in my ballot.
https://www.theguardian.com/film/2018/jan/28/the-nothing-factory-review-unconventional-workplace-drama
This was like a summation of a lots and lots of political cinema of many colours, and its very knowing on how boring as well as exciting a lot of it was.
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 11 February 2018 20:14 (six years ago) link
You guys are voting so early!
I always think of this as a poll of the films I saw in 2017, so in theory could have submitted my vote on Jan 1st. There's always next year's poll!
I avoided this because the Glasgow Film Theatre booklet compared it to Gomes' The Arabian Nights, which I largely disliked, but based on your description I regret that now.
― Agharta Christie (Ward Fowler), Sunday, 11 February 2018 20:25 (six years ago) link
Its miles better than The Arabian Nights, whose 1st part I caught and also despised (oh they are both Portuguese and left-wing! So bloody lazy).
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 11 February 2018 20:34 (six years ago) link
It's very much in the same tradition as Arabian Nights, a tradition that goes from Antonio Reis and gives so many Portuguese films such an ethnographic dimension. There's a bunch of Portuguese documentaries a lot like it, and you see aspects of it in Pedro Costa and Joao Pedro Rodrigues as well, just to name two other major Portuguese filmmakers.
― Frederik B, Sunday, 11 February 2018 21:04 (six years ago) link
Pedro Costa has a completely different rhtyhm and his films are the result of a specific project and even a politics (there is much empathy for the poor and it delves into Portuguese history and colonial history but its also very resigned about it all as well).
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 11 February 2018 21:09 (six years ago) link
no Ward, no. eg, Phantom Thread is not a 2018 film, not no way, not nohow.
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 11 February 2018 21:12 (six years ago) link
UK Release Date: Friday 2 February 2018
― Agharta Christie (Ward Fowler), Sunday, 11 February 2018 21:37 (six years ago) link
pish tosh
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 11 February 2018 21:52 (six years ago) link
Just looked through the list from last year. I'm voting for at least four that got votes last year.
Also noticed that one of them, Eugene Green's The Son of Joseph, got one vote in English and one in French! Let's consolidate our votes this year, Green fans. Pick a language!
― Cherish, Sunday, 11 February 2018 22:41 (six years ago) link
Tomorrow is the two-year anniversary of the premiere of The Son of Joseph. Great film.
― Frederik B, Sunday, 11 February 2018 22:55 (six years ago) link
It is great, and the most openly comic film of his I've seen. Of course there's comedy in all his films, and obviously Le monde vivant was pretty silly, but this one is classic farce.
"How do you feel about hipsters?"
"I hate them."
"Me, too!"
― Cherish, Monday, 12 February 2018 00:20 (six years ago) link
The Nothing Factory was some hot, flaming bullshit, and this is from someone who thinks Arabian Nights is one of the best films ever. To compare them is criminal. If you want to watch a film that will clumsily attack you for daring to watch it, for three fucking hours, be my guest. Dismal
― imago, Tuesday, 13 February 2018 22:01 (six years ago) link
And yeah, of course I'm aware the effect was intentional. That doesn't mean that the execution was good or that I'm happy to have been subjected to it
If you compiled all the scenes that took place outdoors then you'd have a decent ambient short tbf
― imago, Tuesday, 13 February 2018 22:19 (six years ago) link
Glad I'm holding my ballot. I've seen Good Time and Nocturama so far this week.
― WilliamC, Wednesday, 14 February 2018 04:09 (six years ago) link
Really, really happy you hated The Nothing Factory, Louie. Tell me you didn't walk out? That's even better.
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 14 February 2018 07:58 (six years ago) link
Or if you did please tell me it was around the 20+ min scene of the Capital I-intellectuals talking around the dinner table. I knew one or two ppl would walk at that and right enough.
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 14 February 2018 08:04 (six years ago) link
Oh I stayed till the end, buddy
― imago, Wednesday, 14 February 2018 08:21 (six years ago) link
I'm aware the Intellectuals bit was meant to be satirical, but the point was so heavy-handed. 'film attacks its own bourgie audience' has been done, oh, very slightly better ;)
― imago, Wednesday, 14 February 2018 08:23 (six years ago) link
Some people did indeed leave during that bit btw
― imago, Wednesday, 14 February 2018 08:24 (six years ago) link
It wasn't satire. Its partly a play on some of the 60s/70s political films. Mainly and basically though talking about what is going on should be fine for the audience -- who are mostly educated (in the sense they come in with some familiarity with Marxist texts and current affairs) -- they ought to be staying with it. Especially given what happened later.
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 14 February 2018 08:48 (six years ago) link
Every one of its intellectual flourishes was subsequently deflated - seemingly on purpose - but not in good ways. We are shown how the main guy is a horrible prick to his wife, the musical bit is a daft contrivance, the workers' discussions go in futile circles. Some of the actual theory was sound but nothing new - the rest felt like antagonism. For a film about the Struggle it really didn't seem to have many answers
― imago, Wednesday, 14 February 2018 08:54 (six years ago) link
It doesn't pretend to have any answers and you should not start looking for it ina film (you basically look for edgy stuff - hence the ambient comment - anyway). The worker discussion is documentary and it's exactly the kind of thing you should be listening to. They seized the means of production. Musical functioned as a break and it often has a part in certain political films.
Guy being a horrible prick to his wife is your male feminist logging on.
God knows how Fred is gonna sort this out.
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 14 February 2018 09:12 (six years ago) link
Why would I sort it out? I saw it in a competition of debut films, I thought it was a promising but flawed film that seemed fairly typical of Portuguese cinema.
― Frederik B, Wednesday, 14 February 2018 13:43 (six years ago) link
Just thought you had all the answers, that's all.
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 14 February 2018 13:53 (six years ago) link
Weekend Bump
― Gukbe, Saturday, 17 February 2018 23:51 (six years ago) link
Saw and was inspired by too few new films to vote, though they didn't include Get Out or The Work or The B-Side or, I expect of greater relative interest to me, Mudbound or BPM or Ex Libris or The Four Sisters. I typically enjoyed the half-Varda and to a lesser degree Soderbergh and Winterbottom, but found them less interesting slight returns to somewhat familiar territory (same for the 2016 Assayas, which I saw that year too, though it might be worth a second look), and the Grateful Dead movie I more than willingly sat through four hours of was as advertised both long and a little strange but not quite a trip. Lady Bird was not without its minor charms, but I suspect I would have enjoyed a lot more with Gerwig rather than Ronan in front of the camera, and ultimately I was tempted to deem it the vaguely-indie coming-of-age-comedy cognate of the comic-book/sci-fi films whose artistic merit appears to have been inflated by whatever cultural importance there may be in their being helmed by and/or starring women and/or African-Americans, less interesting or substantive than, say, the more adult Columbus. Same goes for The Florida Project, which I found too aggressively awful in content, milieu, and lack of any particular point I cared to discern to be attentive to the extent to which it may have been well made by anyone other than the adult leads. While I'd felt similarly about previous McDonagh work, the somewhat-accidentally-seen Three Billboards felt sufficiently meatier in its storytelling and mild convention-subversion to overlook the complications and light weight; I suspect Wind River probably was too. The Hong movie seemed a bit more interesting than those I'd seen previously, but not enough to bother me that I was dragged out of it early on content grounds. My favorite 2017 film (excluding 2016s not seen in that year like Cameraperson or especially Robinson Devor's fairly compelling Pow Wow) was probably The Other Side of Hope, which felt most of and responsive to the moment.
― Moo Vaughn, Monday, 19 February 2018 01:47 (six years ago) link
Same goes for The Florida Project, which I found too aggressively awful in content, milieu, and lack of any particular point I cared to discern to be attentive to the extent to which it may have been well made by anyone other than the adult leads.
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― flappy bird, Monday, 19 February 2018 05:22 (six years ago) link
not entirely wrong
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 19 February 2018 11:21 (six years ago) link
Lady Bird was not without its minor charms, but I suspect I would have enjoyed a lot more with Gerwig rather than Ronan in front of the camera, and ultimately I was tempted to deem it the vaguely-indie coming-of-age-comedy cognate of the comic-book/sci-fi films whose artistic merit appears to have been inflated by whatever cultural importance there may be in their being helmed by and/or starring women and/or African-Americans
entirely wrong
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 19 February 2018 11:25 (six years ago) link
Saw Good Time last night! Lovely nerve-shredder. I cried at the end
― imago, Monday, 19 February 2018 12:21 (six years ago) link
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, February 19, 2018 11:25 AM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
It may be that I'm just insufficiently suburban in origin, female in gendering, millennial in generation, or Catholic in upbringing to have more than modest feeling for a film that competed with food and drink, etc. for my attention as many increasingly do, but even putting aside the fact that for all her very good work Ronan never entirely registered as Sacramentian, the whole thing just felt less real than even the comic-book take of Ghost World, for which I had less feeling even before a recent screening highlighted its fairly reactionary/not a little creepy script. Part of that may also have to do with the slightly peculiar lightness with which Gerwig's (or, I suppose more appropriately, her teenaged/post-collegiate characters') happy-go-lucky vision/persona treats life's difficulties, but again I find that treatment more convincing when she embodies it herself.
― Moo Vaughn, Monday, 19 February 2018 14:17 (six years ago) link
The slightly peculiar lightness is a sensibility I've encountered more than a few times in adulthood, and only rarely have I seen it incarnated onscreen as fully as Gerwig does. Couple this sensibility with the editing and Ronan's acting chops and the result was a small miracle.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 19 February 2018 14:20 (six years ago) link
Ronan never entirely registered as Sacramentian
I didn't exactly feel that (someone like Christine could exist anywhere in the US, and it's up to the movie to show us what kinds of people there are), but if Ronan's own origins were creating some interference, that could work in its favour given that Christine is always dreaming of being away from Sacramento.
― jmm, Monday, 19 February 2018 14:36 (six years ago) link
Yeah, sorry, I just saw a very good performance of teenaged suburban American identity rather than someone actually acquainted with it. It wasn't necessarily the specific geography I was hung up on, though I do tend to care about such things, but I did, like Richard Brody (who offhandedly appears to agree with me about Gerwig's absence), miss the absence of much specificity - https://www.newyorker.com/culture/richard-brody/greta-gerwigs-exquisite-flawed-lady-bird.
― Moo Vaughn, Monday, 19 February 2018 15:10 (six years ago) link
absence/presence
Voted.
― WilliamC, Tuesday, 20 February 2018 03:42 (six years ago) link
Sent mine!
― Cherish, Wednesday, 21 February 2018 22:40 (six years ago) link
GG was not going to play a 17-year-old. Ronan's fine.
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 21 February 2018 22:41 (six years ago) link
Not going to vote until the deadline, but I generally vote for anything I’ve seen prior to the poll even if its UK release was later as I don’t like to get left out of the US voting current and risk the lower placement or missing out of things I loved.
Really appreciate Cherish’s list upthread - I’ll definitely try to see at least one of those before voting. Any other suggestions for probably-missed films? The more intense the better. I have limited patience for slowcore atm
― Launch of new ILM school business management programmes! (tangenttangent), Monday, 26 February 2018 22:18 (six years ago) link
'limited patience for slowcore' waaaait we saw A Ghost Story like yesterday and you LIKED it
but yeah we're going to watch something tonight and it might as well be from that list, although I'm angling for Paddington 2
― imago, Monday, 26 February 2018 22:24 (six years ago) link
I DID NOT necessarily know what I thought of it beyond disconsolate crying.
Someone save me from Paddington 2
― Launch of new ILM school business management programmes! (tangenttangent), Monday, 26 February 2018 22:30 (six years ago) link
On body & soul was good! From the fest here I liked kékszakállú and the forest of lost souls
― scotti pruitti (wins), Monday, 26 February 2018 22:31 (six years ago) link
I also recommend voting for twin peaks
― scotti pruitti (wins), Monday, 26 February 2018 22:32 (six years ago) link
By the Time It Gets Dark is pretty slowcore, fyi. Also my least favorite of the four.
Have you guys seen Wonderstruck?
― Cherish, Monday, 26 February 2018 22:39 (six years ago) link
I have not! It is not on my radar at all. Would you recommend? Thanks for the advice too. Definitely going to try and watch On Body and Soul and Berlin Syndrome before the deadline.
For now we are watching I Am Not a Witch, but everything mentioned is getting added to the list.
― Launch of new ILM school business management programmes! (tangenttangent), Monday, 26 February 2018 22:51 (six years ago) link
Paddington 2 is great, unless you hated Paddington 1
― Haribo Hancock (sic), Monday, 26 February 2018 22:54 (six years ago) link
Paddington 2 is so deeply moving and emotional that it transcends traditional categorization
― flappy bird, Monday, 26 February 2018 22:55 (six years ago) link
Would you recommend?
I do recommend it! It's a kids's movie, really, but carefully and cleverly designed for film buffs -- with its two story lines filmed in two distinct styles.
I think you'll really like the other two also. I'm always happy to pass on good movies!
― Cherish, Monday, 26 February 2018 23:01 (six years ago) link
Wonderstruck doesn't really work, but I kinda admire Haynes for trying it.
― Frederik B, Monday, 26 February 2018 23:02 (six years ago) link
I’ve not gotten around to some key movies yet but I want to vote for Ex Libris. Hmmm...
― Chris L, Monday, 26 February 2018 23:03 (six years ago) link
Wonderstruck is a minor work by Haynes, still pretty good though.
― flappy bird, Monday, 26 February 2018 23:10 (six years ago) link
Yeah. I went in with no expectations and was surprised how much I liked it. It's a very simple story, sure, but visually fun. And that young deaf actress is extremely good.
― Cherish, Monday, 26 February 2018 23:12 (six years ago) link
I Am Not A Witch was superb and you should all subscribe to the BFI player and see it. Really unusual and risk-taking but it pretty much all comes off. And it's totally hilarious
― imago, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 00:36 (six years ago) link
also, [Mr Peanutbutter voice] I *loved* Paddington 1!
― imago, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 00:46 (six years ago) link
Paddington 2 is, then: great
― Haribo Hancock (sic), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 08:22 (six years ago) link
accurate
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 18:01 (six years ago) link
i spose this is better than stanning for the bloody 'days of empire' movies
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 18:03 (six years ago) link
Bump. Theoretical final week of voting. Work just threw some stuff at me though so I'll know by Saturday.
― Gukbe, Thursday, 1 March 2018 04:16 (six years ago) link
btw deadline was bumped a week last year...
I apologize to wins for telling him to blow me on last year's thread. I deserved his opprobrium.
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 1 March 2018 19:41 (six years ago) link
I've forgotten how the weighting works. If you put fewer films on your ballot, will the ones that are left be given more juice?
― Alba, Friday, 2 March 2018 12:12 (six years ago) link
No, you're just denying the films lower on the ballot any points. 1=40, 2=36, etc...
― Gukbe, Friday, 2 March 2018 14:51 (six years ago) link
voted!
― well bissogled trotters (Michael B), Friday, 2 March 2018 14:53 (six years ago) link
we've been seeing filmz
call me by your name is an excellent movie about summering in italy and it features a lot of really excellent birdsong
― imago, Friday, 2 March 2018 15:03 (six years ago) link
Haha morbius I don't doubt it, no need to apologise tho cmonimago/tt and any others looking to catch up over the weekend, I v much recommend watching Dawson City, Frozen Time - a highlight of my cinemagoing last year and deserving of a place (fundamentally tho I recommend everyone stop playing themselves and vote for twin peaks obv)
― scotti pruitti (wins), Friday, 2 March 2018 20:51 (six years ago) link
excerpted from a major film journal's year-end request email:
...if you could send me a top ten, ranked, of your choice for annum 2017, based on films that premiered (in festivals or cinemas or on Showtime), that would be great...
― Simon H., Friday, 2 March 2018 20:54 (six years ago) link
some of us have seen only 2/18 of TP:TR, categorization be damned
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Friday, 2 March 2018 21:01 (six years ago) link
Vote for it anyway
― scotti pruitti (wins), Friday, 2 March 2018 21:06 (six years ago) link
saving it for TV poll
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Friday, 2 March 2018 21:07 (six years ago) link
everyone i know that saw Dawson City: Frozen Time said they liked it but found the music super treacly and almost unbearable
― flappy bird, Friday, 2 March 2018 21:15 (six years ago) link
I can't call the music to mind- it was a sigur ros guy right?
― scotti pruitti (wins), Friday, 2 March 2018 21:37 (six years ago) link
Simon's quote is unsurprising I think serious venues are quite aware of how undistinguished a year 2017 is once you ignore the filmic event of the yearObviously it's excellent to be more bothered about whether things are filed correctly tho 😎
― scotti pruitti (wins), Friday, 2 March 2018 21:52 (six years ago) link
I have two episodes left in TP:TR and it wouldn't even occur to me to vote it best of the year.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 2 March 2018 21:57 (six years ago) link
i still haven't recovered from xyzzzz calling the nothing factory better than arabian nights and i doubt i can tbh, that's the kind of cognitive dissonance you don't come back from
― imago, Friday, 2 March 2018 21:57 (six years ago) link
― flappy bird,
This is another one I sorta liked but started looking at my watch after 50 minutes.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 2 March 2018 21:58 (six years ago) link
BPM, The Other Side of Hope, Phantom Thread: all distinguished.
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Friday, 2 March 2018 21:59 (six years ago) link
BPM not out til April here ☹️
― scotti pruitti (wins), Friday, 2 March 2018 22:05 (six years ago) link
Faces places not out til idk never
Other side of hope very high up in my ballot if I actually get around to doing one instead of just trolling
― scotti pruitti (wins), Friday, 2 March 2018 22:06 (six years ago) link
Yeah: Faces Places not out in UK till September. Maybe Morbs is right and the balllot should be held next century.
― Alba, Friday, 2 March 2018 22:10 (six years ago) link
But you guys are so close to France!
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Friday, 2 March 2018 22:11 (six years ago) link
I do still stand by my half-time assessment that 2017 has not been a vintage year. I'm sure deficiencies in my cinemagoing are partly to blame but there has felt like a lack of strength in depth: looking at my ballot there's a top 8 or so I really feel strongly about but in previous years it's been a struggle to cull it to 25.
― Alba, Friday, 2 March 2018 22:17 (six years ago) link
2017 was an all time great year for Danish cinema, but a bad year for festival films which is what normally fills my ballot. Looking at the Cannes list, for example, there's really only a couple film I liked.
― Frederik B, Saturday, 3 March 2018 00:33 (six years ago) link
Sent
― i know kore-eda (or something), Saturday, 3 March 2018 01:04 (six years ago) link
we just saw 'the party'! it was...unsubtle. but fun.
tt: "like you"
― imago, Saturday, 3 March 2018 01:20 (six years ago) link
Ballot sent. Went for the full 25 after all. Sneaked A Fantastic Woman in.
Someone else is voting for Detroit and England Is Mine, right?
― Alba, Saturday, 3 March 2018 08:05 (six years ago) link
them 2 along with Baby Driver were like a spiritual experience to me. i.e like going to church and listening to a paed delivering a sermon on morality.Just joking, haven't seen any of them tbh.
― calzino, Saturday, 3 March 2018 10:34 (six years ago) link
How long precisely until ballots have to be submitted?
Just watched On Body and Soul. It was completely different to anything I had imagined it would be...sort of a muted, magic realist melodrama. What a bizarre career the director seems to have had. Does anyone know her other work and if it's at all similar in feel to this? The whole experience was quite overwhelming! That definitely shakes up my top 10.
― tangenttangent, Sunday, 4 March 2018 00:26 (six years ago) link
oh wow! I found it maudlin and commonplace.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 4 March 2018 00:27 (six years ago) link
Just saw it today and loved it. As well as the amazing lead performance, it has an subtle hallucinatory feel to it from the soundtrack and photography.
― Luna Schlosser, Sunday, 4 March 2018 00:31 (six years ago) link
Gloria really stayed with me, if it's as good as that one was it'll be on my ballot next year
― scotti pruitti (wins), Sunday, 4 March 2018 00:33 (six years ago) link
it looks like his next movie is a Hollywood remake of Gloria with Julianne Moore.
― calzino, Sunday, 4 March 2018 00:41 (six years ago) link
I sincerely apologize that this is happening again, but a combination of Donald Trump, Bibi Netanyahu, and now a tragedy in my life means I can't do this tomorrow night. I'm extending the deadline a week (again). So if you want to catch up with Princess Cyd on Netflix, go for it. Deadline is now next Sunday night.
― Gukbe, Sunday, 4 March 2018 03:11 (six years ago) link
Be well and best wishes, Gubke.
― flappy bird, Sunday, 4 March 2018 04:49 (six years ago) link
and thanks for the heads up about Princess Cyd being on Netflix - I missed that one at festivals last year & in its brief theatrical run last summer.
― flappy bird, Sunday, 4 March 2018 04:50 (six years ago) link
sorry, Gukbe
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 4 March 2018 08:20 (six years ago) link
take all the time you need :)
― imago, Sunday, 4 March 2018 10:35 (six years ago) link
Yeah, take all the time you need, Gukbe. Best wishes :)
― Frederik B, Sunday, 4 March 2018 12:29 (six years ago) link
― tangenttangent, 4. marts 2018 01:26 (eleven hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
There's a magical realist feel to all of it, but the muted feeling is new. My 20th Century is a forgotten gem, the rest is not really that good.
― Frederik B, Sunday, 4 March 2018 12:31 (six years ago) link
Thanks! I’ll definitely watch it based on that. Mutedness isn’t something I usually appreciate (although definitely in this context), so I’ll be interested to see what peaks she can reach!
Best wishes to you, Gukbe.
― tangenttangent, Sunday, 4 March 2018 12:52 (six years ago) link
On Body and Soul was not released in the US til 2018, i believe
but by all means let the goddamn Oscar nominations lead you
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 4 March 2018 14:53 (six years ago) link
It's weird imo that you'd assume people are led by oscar noms as opposed to, say, release dates in the countries we live inI know you're very strict about films not being considered to exist until they have been shown in the theatre nearest your apartment tho
― scotti pruitti (wins), Sunday, 4 March 2018 15:06 (six years ago) link
Feels bad, having movies come out first in other countries, doesn't it?
― imago, Sunday, 4 March 2018 15:07 (six years ago) link
that's a good criterion, wins
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 4 March 2018 15:16 (six years ago) link
On Body and Soul's reputation seems much grown since it was released in UK cinemas. I found it more of a curio than a film of the year.
― Alba, Sunday, 4 March 2018 16:44 (six years ago) link
I liked it fine, but it's not making my list.
― Frederik B, Sunday, 4 March 2018 17:03 (six years ago) link
A friend messaged to tell me that she had also watched On Body and Soul last night. I think this means that I am a deer.
― tangenttangent, Sunday, 4 March 2018 21:23 (six years ago) link
Best wishes to you, Gukbe. Is it ok if I send a revised ballot? I've been able to see a couple more 2017 releases since I sent my first one in.
― WilliamC, Monday, 5 March 2018 02:24 (six years ago) link
Yeah, if anyone wants to revise their ballot, go ahead.
― Gukbe, Monday, 5 March 2018 09:03 (six years ago) link
All the best, Gukbe.
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 5 March 2018 09:08 (six years ago) link
Bump. Final 3 days.
― Gukbe, Friday, 9 March 2018 08:32 (six years ago) link
Voted!
― devvvine, Friday, 9 March 2018 10:19 (six years ago) link
Still hoping to squeeze in Coco before I resubmit. Is it Sunday 7pm EST again?
― Alba, Friday, 9 March 2018 10:50 (six years ago) link
11pm est
― Gukbe, Friday, 9 March 2018 23:28 (six years ago) link
So glad I saw Coco in time.
Sorry for sending four versions of my ballot, Gukbe. That really is it now.
― Alba, Sunday, 11 March 2018 17:37 (six years ago) link
sent!
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 11 March 2018 17:40 (six years ago) link
― Frederik B, Sunday, 11 March 2018 20:34 (six years ago) link
Putting together my ballot I found it was a better year than I thought, for me: few obvious standouts but a bunch of films I liked quite well. I had to cut a few for space that I liked about as much as anything in the lower part of my ballot
― scotti pruitti (wins), Sunday, 11 March 2018 20:43 (six years ago) link
just sent mine in
― Dan S, Sunday, 11 March 2018 21:56 (six years ago) link
revised ballot sent
― WilliamC, Sunday, 11 March 2018 22:47 (six years ago) link
holy shit, Double King is ten minutes of your time on Youtube incredibly well spent
― imago, Monday, 12 March 2018 00:13 (six years ago) link
Voted :)
― tangenttangent, Monday, 12 March 2018 00:30 (six years ago) link
me too!
― imago, Monday, 12 March 2018 01:53 (six years ago) link
lmao I just realised I completely forgot about new haneke
― scotti pruitti (wins), Monday, 12 March 2018 08:13 (six years ago) link
I remembered that I'd forgotten about it.
― Alba, Monday, 12 March 2018 08:48 (six years ago) link
it was only released here last week, for a one-week twice-a-day run in one theater with broken seats
― just noticed tears shaped like florida. (sic), Monday, 12 March 2018 09:07 (six years ago) link
I know that sounds like a metaphor but it's not.
i remembered to skip it
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 14 March 2018 01:28 (six years ago) link
I'd missed the post about the life stuff. Sorry, Gukbe! Hope you're OK.
― Cherish, Sunday, 18 March 2018 18:04 (six years ago) link
Apologies for the delay. It's all tallied. I need to find time this week for the rollout. Got work and doctor's appointments and prep for an impromptu trip plus moving, so I can't guarantee a good UK/US friendly time. Will aim for Tuesday and Thursday.
― Gukbe, Monday, 19 March 2018 00:34 (six years ago) link
just post whenever you can, tension is fun
― just noticed tears shaped like florida. (sic), Monday, 19 March 2018 04:49 (six years ago) link
Tension? What tension? We all know that Florida Project and Dunkirk will win.
Best of wishes, Gukbe, don't worry about Danish time :)
― Frederik B, Monday, 19 March 2018 09:18 (six years ago) link
No worries if you can't make Tuesday or Thursday, Gukbe. Roll it out when you can.
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 19 March 2018 21:43 (six years ago) link
Just checking that I didn't miss this.
― "Minneapolis" (barf) (Eric H.), Wednesday, 4 April 2018 14:48 (six years ago) link
should be April 15 every year :)
― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 4 April 2018 15:10 (six years ago) link
gukbe clearly undergoing some major life shit atm
― imago, Wednesday, 4 April 2018 15:13 (six years ago) link
I hope gukbe is all right. sending love to you g, if you are reading this.
― Heavy Messages (jed_), Friday, 27 April 2018 01:56 (five years ago) link
Same.
― The Harsh Tutelage of Michael McDonald (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 27 April 2018 01:59 (five years ago) link
Yup.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 27 April 2018 15:13 (five years ago) link
Is there any desire to re-poll if gukbe is not returning?
― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 11 July 2018 15:47 (five years ago) link
yeah i'd like to
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 11 July 2018 15:57 (five years ago) link
I still have my ballot, and now I can include the IMDB 2017 films that didn't open until this year. Bonus.
― I Never Promised You A Hose Harden (Eric H.), Wednesday, 11 July 2018 16:18 (five years ago) link
wellll, i won't be including any that weren't released in NYC in '17.
― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 11 July 2018 16:35 (five years ago) link
Sounds like a plan (plus I am catching Ex Libris this weekend so it could make it on very belatedly).
― Minister of the Pillow (fionnland), Wednesday, 11 July 2018 16:51 (five years ago) link
how about making Twin Peaks: The Return not eligible? I mean I know I voted for it but it really shouldn't be on here. yea I know it screened in NYC but come on. not that I didn't love it, but these lists are good resources for finding obscure stuff and movies that might've slipped under the radar
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 11 July 2018 17:04 (five years ago) link
What year is this
― U. K. Le Garage (wins), Wednesday, 11 July 2018 17:04 (five years ago) link
I'll volunteer to receive ballots and tally if a patsy is needed.
(I'd also look at my own ballot and consider adding a dozen NYC '17 / wide 2018 or world '17 / USA & festivals 2018 flicks, except that I don't think we should set a precedent for removing Twin Peaks. Will totally calculate with and without both Peaks and Phantom Thread though.)
― kelp, clam and carrion (sic), Wednesday, 11 July 2018 18:08 (five years ago) link
It’s still my #1 I reckon but even if it weren’t I’d be arguing for the non-uptight approach, as few restrictions as possible. It won’t make a difference 99.999% of the time anyway but like last year enough people wanted to vote for OJ made in America to get it just outside the top 10, it would have been weird to disallow it just cause some other people had quibbles. (ftr I also think people should be able to vote for movies that went straight to streaming if they want, whether or not they had that one screening somewhere that would arbitrarily make them exist)
― U. K. Le Garage (wins), Wednesday, 11 July 2018 18:15 (five years ago) link
true true
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 11 July 2018 18:32 (five years ago) link
I'm happy to get another crack at my ballot, having seen everything that opened in 2017 in NY & LA but didn't make it here until jan/feb/march
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 11 July 2018 18:33 (five years ago) link
I'll redo my ballot if given a chance -- I've seen a few more 2017 films since March.
― a shomin-geki poster with some horror elements (WilliamC), Wednesday, 11 July 2018 18:41 (five years ago) link
I've seen a few more too, but nothing that would change my ballot. I'll happily resubmit if this is really going to happen!
― Cherish, Thursday, 12 July 2018 17:03 (five years ago) link
does anyone know Gukbe off-ILX to check in and see if he's okay / happy for someone to take over?
― kelp, clam and carrion (sic), Thursday, 12 July 2018 20:05 (five years ago) link
I'll message him.
― Alba, Thursday, 12 July 2018 20:36 (five years ago) link
Gukbe's doing OK - on the mend but won't be doing the poll and sends his apologies. So if you want to pick it up sic, please do. I don't think my ballot will change much and Twin Peaks is definitely staying.
― Alba, Friday, 13 July 2018 17:35 (five years ago) link
if Gukbe has already tallied it perhaps he can just send it to sic?
― Britain's Sexiest Cow (jed_), Friday, 13 July 2018 17:45 (five years ago) link
xp happy 2 hear hes doing ok :)
― johnny crunch, Friday, 13 July 2018 17:46 (five years ago) link
yes indeed.
― Britain's Sexiest Cow (jed_), Friday, 13 July 2018 17:47 (five years ago) link
Happy to resubmit my ballot - all this talk of re-doing lists is painful to me.
Best wishes to Gukbe, thanks for stepping up (sic.)
― Ward Fowler, Friday, 13 July 2018 17:57 (five years ago) link
ILXmailed you, Alba.
― kelp, clam and carrion (sic), Friday, 13 July 2018 19:25 (five years ago) link
I’ll redo my ballot, when do you need it by?
― Dan Worsley, Friday, 13 July 2018 19:31 (five years ago) link
HEY GUYS
I have the old ballots, so if you don't want to change anything, just sit tight.
Anyone who wants to revise their ballot due to seeing more '17 releases in the last few months, belated embarrassment at your choices, or fury at The Discourse, please send me something by WEDNESDAY 18th July, 20:00 PDT / Thursday 19th 04:00 BST / Thursday 13:00 AEST.
― kelp, clam and carrion (sic), Saturday, 14 July 2018 21:15 (five years ago) link
nice work sic. I'm not changing owt, that's cheating!
― calzino, Saturday, 14 July 2018 21:40 (five years ago) link
btw reminder to Americans that Paddington 2 is a 2017 release
― kelp, clam and carrion (sic), Saturday, 14 July 2018 21:47 (five years ago) link
Where do we send revised ballots? Same gmail as prev ballot?
― a shomin-geki poster with some horror elements (WilliamC), Saturday, 14 July 2018 22:40 (five years ago) link
just ILXmail 'em to me, it's going to make it easier to tell the old from the new.
― kelp, clam and carrion (sic), Saturday, 14 July 2018 22:53 (five years ago) link
sent
― a shomin-geki poster with some horror elements (WilliamC), Saturday, 14 July 2018 23:17 (five years ago) link
― kelp, clam and carrion (sic)
thank you :)
― flappy bird, Saturday, 14 July 2018 23:26 (five years ago) link
It's tempting to resubmit so I could not vote for Phantom Thread a second time, but go with what I have--went through my last-x-movies posts since January and couldn't see anything I'd want to add.
― clemenza, Sunday, 15 July 2018 01:07 (five years ago) link
deadline at least a week OK?
― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 15 July 2018 01:22 (five years ago) link
I still haven't seen enough good movies from 2017 to feel confident about submitting a ballot, but I just checked out the title that I imagine will end up winning the poll from the library, so we'll see?
― Police, Academy (cryptosicko), Sunday, 15 July 2018 01:25 (five years ago) link
― kelp, clam and carrion (sic), 14. juli 2018 23:47 (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Ugh, I wasn't going to change my ballot, but I kinda want to vote for Paddington...
― Frederik B, Sunday, 15 July 2018 06:47 (five years ago) link
I think 120 BPM is the only one I might add to my list.
― Alba, Sunday, 15 July 2018 09:13 (five years ago) link
Sent mine
― . (Michael B), Sunday, 15 July 2018 09:35 (five years ago) link
is there any point in resubmitting to vote for Western or is everyone voting for it next year?
― devvvine, Sunday, 15 July 2018 13:23 (five years ago) link
I can't find my ballot, but I think I voted for it this year.
― Frederik B, Sunday, 15 July 2018 13:43 (five years ago) link
If I finally get round to seeing it and like it, it’ll be on next year’s. I do have some standards (although I can never remember what they are)
― Centipedes? In this economy? (wins), Sunday, 15 July 2018 13:46 (five years ago) link
I will be voting for Western in the poll of films we saw in 2018
― Ward Fowler, Sunday, 15 July 2018 14:27 (five years ago) link
Oh, thank you for reminding me of Western. It will be high on my list.
― Alba, Sunday, 15 July 2018 14:27 (five years ago) link
Western is quite emphatically a 2018 film here but I ignore that criterion all the time for films that come out in the early months of the year and that I know our stateside friends will be voting for because they saw it 9 months before we did. Obv I also vote for stuff that came out here that didn’t make it there yet, as an honest snapshot of my viewing and a corrective to the America-is-the-world chauvinism that leads to thread titles like THE LOBSTER (2016) - but I’m pretty sure at least once I have voted for the same film again in its year of global impact lol. & I vote for festival films fucking whenever cause I don’t give a shitStaggered release dates continue to suck in the DCP era not least because of this annual conversation itt
― Centipedes? In this economy? (wins), Sunday, 15 July 2018 14:42 (five years ago) link
Western did not receive a US theatrical release until this year.
― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 15 July 2018 15:02 (five years ago) link
Haha so only Fred saw it last year? I changed my mind then, we should all vote for it now
― Centipedes? In this economy? (wins), Sunday, 15 July 2018 15:05 (five years ago) link
It thought it got released over most of Europe in 2017, so I'll doubt I was the only one who saw it in 17.
Btw, is there any chance I could get my ballot sent to me? I have no idea where I put it, and no idea what I voted for, and I really really really want to help Paddington.
― Frederik B, Sunday, 15 July 2018 15:09 (five years ago) link
a gravely miscalculated revive on my part
― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 15 July 2018 15:17 (five years ago) link
Paddington will win
― Centipedes? In this economy? (wins), Sunday, 15 July 2018 15:20 (five years ago) link
Look what you did
― Centipedes? In this economy? (wins), Sunday, 15 July 2018 15:21 (five years ago) link
Aw, come on. You know it's right.https://media.giphy.com/media/3o7btUy4M3XaoZZATS/giphy.gif
― Frederik B, Sunday, 15 July 2018 15:31 (five years ago) link
I haven’t seen either of them! I’ve heard good things. Won’t speak for morbius but I have nothing against kid movies, just get peeved by the amount of cultural real estate they commandeer these days. We’re all having fun here
― Centipedes? In this economy? (wins), Sunday, 15 July 2018 15:35 (five years ago) link
Oh, wait, found my ballot. Yeah, I voted for Western.
― Frederik B, Sunday, 15 July 2018 17:09 (five years ago) link
Western was in the 2017 Sight and Sound top ten, fwiw.
― Ward Fowler, Sunday, 15 July 2018 17:42 (five years ago) link
elitists
― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 15 July 2018 17:45 (five years ago) link
Re-submitted! Mostly just to re-order, because some wore better over time.
― Cherish, Sunday, 15 July 2018 17:46 (five years ago) link
thread titles like THE LOBSTER (2016)
wow I saw this on a plane (that took off from US soil) in 2015
The Paddingtons are absolutely "family" films, not kid films, and the balance is tipped much further toward adult viewers and film nerds in #2
btw USA, it's screening again in Regal theatres on Tuesday Aug 14 and Weds Aug 15, for $1
― kelp, clam and carrion (sic), Sunday, 15 July 2018 18:44 (five years ago) link
― Centipedes? In this economy? (wins), Sunday, 15 July 2018 18:50 (five years ago) link
will vote Western then to stop Paddington winning
― devvvine, Sunday, 15 July 2018 19:28 (five years ago) link
Probably too obscure. Try Dunkirk.
― Frederik B, Sunday, 15 July 2018 19:44 (five years ago) link
lemme tell you about a little film called Darkest Hour
― devvvine, Sunday, 15 July 2018 19:46 (five years ago) link
Meh. Their Finest! Lone Scherfig, one of the great.
― Frederik B, Sunday, 15 July 2018 21:27 (five years ago) link
sent my revised ballot! also mostly to re-order
― Dan S, Monday, 16 July 2018 21:57 (five years ago) link
I redid mine from scratch before looking at my old one; discovered that the first four were the same with one order flipped. After two days I decided I was right before and flipped them again. (A whole bunch were dropped altogether.)
― kelp, clam and carrion (sic), Monday, 16 July 2018 22:09 (five years ago) link
will send it along in a couple days
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 16 July 2018 22:11 (five years ago) link
Me too
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 17 July 2018 00:52 (five years ago) link
Wait, who are we sending ballots to this time?
― I Never Promised You A Hose Harden (Eric H.), Tuesday, 17 July 2018 02:06 (five years ago) link
sic, via ILX mail, apparently. Is it reliable?
A reminder that the shamefully overlooked The Other Side of Hope is available from the Criterion Collection.
― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 17 July 2018 02:13 (five years ago) link
That was one of the main reasons I wanted to send a revised ballot.
― a shomin-geki poster with some horror elements (WilliamC), Tuesday, 17 July 2018 02:26 (five years ago) link
i applaud you
― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 17 July 2018 02:30 (five years ago) link
I wasn’t going to revise mine, did so to include The Other Side of Hope, and was surprised to realize it was in my top 3.
― Chris L, Tuesday, 17 July 2018 08:13 (five years ago) link
Is it reliable?I've received five revised ballots so far
― kelp, clam and carrion (sic), Tuesday, 17 July 2018 08:30 (five years ago) link
Wait, if I include Western then I should really include Jeune Femme. This whole thing is falling apart.
My general rule is that I'd rather vote for things I like in the year I think other people will vote for them if there's a choice. There doesn't seem to be anything to be gained from sticking to the year I saw them in an exercise like this, and I usually don't bother voting for something if it's already appeared prominently the year before because of a much earlier US release date.
― Alba, Tuesday, 17 July 2018 10:21 (five years ago) link
think Western will probs do better next year, will be revising for The Other Side of Hope though
― devvvine, Tuesday, 17 July 2018 10:27 (five years ago) link
On the one hand, I really think we're overestimating how well Western would be doing, even if we all coordinated our votes. On the other, removing it would leave me space for Paddington. Hmmmm...
― Frederik B, Tuesday, 17 July 2018 10:36 (five years ago) link
I think I'll throw in Jeune Femme too, just because my cinemagoing has ground to a sudden halt because of becoming a father, so I doubt I'll be submitting a 2018 ballot In fact, Jeune Femme was the very last film I saw before the baby came.
― Alba, Tuesday, 17 July 2018 10:50 (five years ago) link
Jeunne Femme is the one that was also called Montparnasse Bienvenue, right? Good film, just slightly missed my ballot.
― Frederik B, Tuesday, 17 July 2018 10:54 (five years ago) link
Yes, that's right. I don't know why they called it that in some territories: weird to choose a different title that's still in French.
― Alba, Tuesday, 17 July 2018 11:02 (five years ago) link
Looking fwd to the countdown. I am making no changes and iirc sic said to sit tight.
Morbs its great that you revived the thread. :-)
Hope Gukbe gets works through whatever is going down.
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 17 July 2018 13:17 (five years ago) link
Paddington, is that the thing about the bear? Just checking..
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 17 July 2018 13:18 (five years ago) link
I believe it's known as Jeune Ours in some territories.
― Alba, Tuesday, 17 July 2018 13:46 (five years ago) link
👍
― kelp, clam and carrion (sic), Tuesday, 17 July 2018 20:08 (five years ago) link
Sent you my revised ballot
― Alba, Tuesday, 17 July 2018 21:44 (five years ago) link
The Ornithologist better rank high. It's still on Netflix!
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 17 July 2018 23:32 (five years ago) link
Was pretty high on my 2016 ballot...
― Frederik B, Tuesday, 17 July 2018 23:45 (five years ago) link
it's a muddle
― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 17 July 2018 23:50 (five years ago) link
so is sex on a fresh water beach
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 17 July 2018 23:50 (five years ago) link
that's a mudder
― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 17 July 2018 23:51 (five years ago) link
so is Bea Arthur
― I Never Promised You A Hose Harden (Eric H.), Wednesday, 18 July 2018 02:22 (five years ago) link
Just resubmitted!
― devvvine, Wednesday, 18 July 2018 12:33 (five years ago) link
anyone other than Morbs and Soto still planning on sending a revised or new ballot?
― kelp, clam and carrion (sic), Wednesday, 18 July 2018 21:22 (five years ago) link
Yes, I will tonite!
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 18 July 2018 21:23 (five years ago) link
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 18 July 2018 21:30 (five years ago) link
I send one, I think?
― Frederik B, Wednesday, 18 July 2018 21:33 (five years ago) link
Same
― I Never Promised You A Hose Harden (Eric H.), Wednesday, 18 July 2018 21:44 (five years ago) link
I was considering revising but I think I might as well let mine stand - i don’t think there’s anything I’d add anyway, I was just thinking of shuffling some things and maybe removing a couple
― Centipedes? In this economy? (wins), Wednesday, 18 July 2018 21:50 (five years ago) link
yes, got Fred and Eric's: I haven't been posting "received" notices because that's tedious for everyone else to open an updated thread for, but we've got 12 revisions in so far, with Alfred's still being read by System.
― kelp, clam and carrion (sic), Wednesday, 18 July 2018 22:02 (five years ago) link
I guess i should've saved this revive for when my rewatches are complete in the fall?
― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 19 July 2018 00:32 (five years ago) link
lol,I feel my rewatching, rethinking, reordering is never going to be complete...
― Dan S, Thursday, 19 July 2018 00:38 (five years ago) link
it never should be
― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 19 July 2018 00:48 (five years ago) link
Nope, which is why no better time than the eternal present to rank.
― I Never Promised You A Hose Harden (Eric H.), Thursday, 19 July 2018 01:00 (five years ago) link
― flappy bird, Thursday, 19 July 2018 05:54 (five years ago) link
Alfred, yours still hasn't show up - can you try again?
― kelp, clam and carrion (sic), Thursday, 19 July 2018 06:13 (five years ago) link
Just sent a slightly revised ballot
― i know kore-eda (or something), Thursday, 19 July 2018 08:32 (five years ago) link
I sent it to ilx2017filmp✧✧✧@gm✧✧✧.c✧✧!
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 19 July 2018 10:35 (five years ago) link
That's Gukbe's account. You need to send it ilxmail (ie by clicking on sic's name then 'Send an Email to this User')
― Alba, Thursday, 19 July 2018 11:13 (five years ago) link
election interference from Miami!
― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 19 July 2018 11:18 (five years ago) link
Fraud complete!
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 19 July 2018 13:06 (five years ago) link
Whatever gets Assayas near the top.
― I Never Promised You A Hose Harden (Eric H.), Thursday, 19 July 2018 13:10 (five years ago) link
I did rewatch that recently just to make sure... Rosenbaum was right.
― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 19 July 2018 14:08 (five years ago) link
Yeah, I normally like Assayas, but thought Personal Shopper was just a big load of nothing very much. Still if it beats out the bear film, I'm all for it.
― Ward Fowler, Thursday, 19 July 2018 14:25 (five years ago) link
I would just like to make it clear that I probably would have voted for the bear film if I'd seen it, but I did not.
― Alba, Thursday, 19 July 2018 14:32 (five years ago) link
I don't even want to ask what the bear film is
― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 19 July 2018 14:32 (five years ago) link
Oh Morbiuspaws.
― Alba, Thursday, 19 July 2018 14:35 (five years ago) link
If we add a worst film vote, btw, mine is The Shape of Water
― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 19 July 2018 14:36 (five years ago) link
looking over a few year-end polls, i see a pig film, a rat film, a fishman film. no bear film
― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 19 July 2018 14:52 (five years ago) link
Three Billboards worst with a bullet, the blanket acceptance of its greatness i seemed to experience irl only reinforced it
― devvvine, Thursday, 19 July 2018 15:01 (five years ago) link
xp - Paddington 2, I assume.
― a shomin-geki poster with some horror elements (WilliamC), Thursday, 19 July 2018 15:04 (five years ago) link
xpmea culpa, due to an accounting error that wasn't showing up on my log. Actual worst, unranked:
Three BillboardsSong to SongBlade Runner 2049
― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 19 July 2018 15:09 (five years ago) link
(these are all about 4/10, i don't have to see even more putrid films anymore as i am not a critic)
― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 19 July 2018 15:10 (five years ago) link
What is the pig film?
― Alba, Thursday, 19 July 2018 15:23 (five years ago) link
Okja, I assume. (How can I monetize this part-time work as a translator?)
― a shomin-geki poster with some horror elements (WilliamC), Thursday, 19 July 2018 15:25 (five years ago) link
Three Billboards and all those cops.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 19 July 2018 15:26 (five years ago) link
I got okja but I don’t know the rat film
― Centipedes? In this economy? (wins), Thursday, 19 July 2018 15:28 (five years ago) link
It's literally called Rat Film so is a bit of a trick.
― Alba, Thursday, 19 July 2018 15:30 (five years ago) link
Can't believe I forgot Okja. I think Babe looms too large in my mind for another pig film.
― Alba, Thursday, 19 July 2018 15:31 (five years ago) link
Motel Hell is the only pig film you need:
http://wickedhorror.thunderroadinc.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/Motel-Hell.jpg
― Ward Fowler, Thursday, 19 July 2018 15:33 (five years ago) link
Haven't seen Three Billboards, and I liked Blade Runner 2049 and The Shape of Water, so my worst/most overrated pick is The Florida Project.
― Police, Academy (cryptosicko), Thursday, 19 July 2018 15:34 (five years ago) link
Here is my list of offal.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 19 July 2018 15:42 (five years ago) link
Baby Driver my runner up for worst
― devvvine, Thursday, 19 July 2018 15:42 (five years ago) link
No film with Ansel can be #worst
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 19 July 2018 15:46 (five years ago) link
mediocre
it's hard to believe A Quiet Passion was only last year as i saw it at the NYFF '16
― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 19 July 2018 15:49 (five years ago) link
lol at Soto's revised ballot being exactly the same as his OG except with a different #24
― kelp, clam and carrion (sic), Thursday, 19 July 2018 18:49 (five years ago) link
That's low for Paddington :(
― Frederik B, Thursday, 19 July 2018 18:53 (five years ago) link
mine will likely have one new entry
― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 19 July 2018 18:59 (five years ago) link
understood - if you don't get yours in by the time I finish tallying, I'll add Paddington to the top.
― kelp, clam and carrion (sic), Thursday, 19 July 2018 19:13 (five years ago) link
never kid a kidder
when's the deadline? i am The catalyst, i should get at least a week.
― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 19 July 2018 19:23 (five years ago) link
it was 11pm last night NYC time
― kelp, clam and carrion (sic), Thursday, 19 July 2018 19:37 (five years ago) link
you're on fire today!
― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 19 July 2018 19:39 (five years ago) link
"I cannot start my day with a confrontation" The 2017 ILX Film Poll Voting Thread - Ballots Due Sunday, March 4th at 7pm EST.
― kelp, clam and carrion (sic), Thursday, 19 July 2018 20:27 (five years ago) link
well how the hell was i supposed to see that amidst all this chum and effluvia?
― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 19 July 2018 20:29 (five years ago) link
sent, you dastardly globetrotter
― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 19 July 2018 20:36 (five years ago) link
how many voters, sic?
― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Friday, 20 July 2018 19:08 (five years ago) link
looks like
TWENTY old voters who didn't want to revise, or didn't see the revive, or have quit ILX forever
SEVENTEEN of us who revised their ballots
...unless Frederik completely changed his entire ballot, as I don't have an old one that looks like his choices, and can't tell from an email address that anybody is him.
― kelp, clam and carrion (sic), Sunday, 22 July 2018 02:55 (five years ago) link
of all the ppl we don't want voting twice...
― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 22 July 2018 04:15 (five years ago) link
Is there a ballot w/ Bear film/Dunkirk at 1/2? That should be Fred.
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 22 July 2018 06:32 (five years ago) link
oh, I have his new one
― kelp, clam and carrion (sic), Sunday, 22 July 2018 06:44 (five years ago) link
It's Dunkirk/Bear, actually.
And I only changed one vote so the old one should be recognizable. It had 'Your Name' at 25.
― Frederik B, Sunday, 22 July 2018 07:04 (five years ago) link
shit i should've put that on my ballot
― flappy bird, Sunday, 22 July 2018 07:11 (five years ago) link
wtf is Bear film
― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 22 July 2018 09:00 (five years ago) link
The Revenant. Hey, it premiered in 2017 in Denmark. Actually the topselling film of the year.
― Frederik B, Sunday, 22 July 2018 09:04 (five years ago) link
jesus, DiCaprio w/ Marty is bad enough
― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 22 July 2018 09:05 (five years ago) link
Lol, that was way off, Revenant is of course oscar bait 2016 and thr equivalent this year was La La Land. The best selling film of 2017 was of course the wookie film.
― Frederik B, Sunday, 22 July 2018 09:26 (five years ago) link
what's up, 3am crew. 614 valid votes cast, looking like it'll be a top 52 because of ties.
― kelp, clam and carrion (sic), Sunday, 22 July 2018 09:43 (five years ago) link
just got around to watching Ex Libris: The New York Public Library the night before last. didn't watch it in time for the vote, but hope to see it in the rollout
― Dan S, Tuesday, 24 July 2018 00:30 (five years ago) link
― kelp, clam and carrion (sic),
Travel, etc.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 24 July 2018 01:17 (five years ago) link
If everyone's ready to move into the auditorium and take their seats, the results thread is about to begin.
― kelp, clam and carrion (sic), Tuesday, 24 July 2018 18:22 (five years ago) link
Straw poll: who's for voting 2018 in February again, and who's for waiting until, say, June?
― sans lep (sic), Monday, 31 December 2018 21:52 (five years ago) link
in on the first, happy to see it whenever it's donePADDINGTON 2 y'all
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 31 December 2018 22:20 (five years ago) link
would march be a nice compromise
― imago, Monday, 31 December 2018 22:24 (five years ago) link
February. I realize there's this compulsion for some to see everything before drawing up a list, but it's just a poll. If you miss something this year, you catch it next year. In general, I hate the modern tendency to rush everything--record and film reviews now, opinions now, year-end lists in early December--but February is perfectly reasonable. A year-end poll in June seems silly to me.
― clemenza, Monday, 31 December 2018 22:29 (five years ago) link
June was a proposed compromise against the much-loved July poll of this year
― sans lep (sic), Monday, 31 December 2018 22:47 (five years ago) link
I thought June was fine esp as a counterbalance to October year end polls
― Your dad's Carlos Boozer and you keep him alive (fionnland), Monday, 31 December 2018 23:04 (five years ago) link
Do it in Feb w/ the Oscars
― ebro the letter (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 31 December 2018 23:06 (five years ago) link
i guess we won't know who made the real five-baggers unless oscar tells us
― imago, Monday, 31 December 2018 23:08 (five years ago) link
June
― Juul Haalmeyer Dancers washout (WmC), Monday, 31 December 2018 23:09 (five years ago) link
yeah June, fionnland has a good point about it breaking up the glut of lists/polls this time of year. and those movies that don't make it out of new york or la by march 2019 might be someone's favorite, it's happened to me. but oddly this is the first year ever where I've seen everything of note (except Cold War). somehow everything made it here by the end of the year. but this is the first time this has happened to me 15+ years after leaving new york.
― flappy bird, Monday, 31 December 2018 23:18 (five years ago) link
February is perfect for me, personally. It gives me time to go to Gothenburg and catch up in January, and it means I get the list-making over with as the new festival year begins in Berlin. But ok, if the rest of you want to wait until June, I guess that's what we'll do.
― Frederik B, Monday, 31 December 2018 23:30 (five years ago) link
ftr
Really, the solution is to always do the poll in late July so nearly everything that opens on one continent the previous year will have had 7 months to spread, like a social disease.― Dr Morbius
― Dr Morbius
Actually rather agree with the late July idea― imago
― imago
Yeah I was gonna say we should do this in the middle of the year every year to avoid these double placements. I live in a mid-sized city in the USA and often get less than half of the prestige/quality art house films until early the next year, often going all the way into March.[...]Certain Women came out in Europe in March 2017, and was released on home video in June. this could've been avoided & could be in the future by delaying the poll til mid-summer― flappy bird
[...]
Certain Women came out in Europe in March 2017, and was released on home video in June. this could've been avoided & could be in the future by delaying the poll til mid-summer
― flappy bird
Agreed that we should put off voting until at least July for the previous year.― WilliamC
― WilliamC
counterpoint:
thought about watching Coco before voting; too busy watching Twin Peaks― Dr Morbius, July 2017
― Dr Morbius, July 2017
Morbs hasn't finished watching Twin Peaks yet, so if we hurry we can counteract any objections bcz he's obv still too busy to have watched any 2018 releases
― sans lep (sic), Monday, 31 December 2018 23:31 (five years ago) link
I'm making a vaguely concerted effort to catch up w/ some now-on-streamings at the moment (Madeline² last night), and Shoplifters is coming to a tiny indie in late January, so I'm expecting to be happy both to vote and to run the poll in February (cutting off votes before the Oscars, rolling out a week or so after). But nobody in the delayed results thread this year argued against the expanded catch-up time!
― sans lep (sic), Monday, 31 December 2018 23:40 (five years ago) link
April maybe?
― flappy bird, Monday, 31 December 2018 23:51 (five years ago) link
as a compromise
Feb please. June was a one-off.
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 1 January 2019 18:43 (five years ago) link
et tu Whiney
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 1 January 2019 21:16 (five years ago) link
There was a thread recently where there was some debate over when the year-end film poll should be. I thought it would have been here, but I guess not.
Anyway, I wanted to run a political-film poll this summer. Is is possible for the year-end to be over and done with before then?
ayo clemenza
maybe not over and done before the summer, given the fairly whelming opinion to wait ages, but before July?
clicks "submit post," leaves flat to go and see a movie postulating that evil monsters could take over American politics and society by infiltrating the media
― steven, soda jerk (sic), Thursday, 14 March 2019 03:04 (five years ago) link
I think we should start April 1
― flappy bird, Thursday, 14 March 2019 03:17 (five years ago) link
That'd be fine, thanks. I'll be retired by then anyway, so really, it doesn't matter.
― clemenza, Thursday, 14 March 2019 03:41 (five years ago) link