Why do people leave ILX for good?

no "arsenal are boring and shit" category?

nabisco posted a cpl weeks ago and no one noticed

*improvements in sex toy technology* suspiciously absent from your choices.

*reads through list* hmmm yeah ok hmm maybe hmm HEY WAIT

picked user at random, promise!

I don't approve of any one person being singled out in a poll. even a Cardiacs fan.

altho I literally did drive someone off ILX last year and still feel shitty about it :(

Voted 'demands of career' although I don't really have a career, just a job. I haven't posted on ILX much in the last 2-3 years because of it.

*noticeable lack of Geir* should have also been an option.

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1330670254/come_to_hongro_400x400.jpg

Imago

what's the difference between "content" and "hate everything"?

I really don't see myself ever leaving ILX.

i was thinking hate everything in a more general sense, not hate everything about the site xp

"trump made everything boring"

i voted 'demands of career' and just happened to be checking back in to ilx as this was posted. i love this website but shiiiit man i got shit to do.

I call bullshit AHH I called into covent garden last time I was in London and no sign of u

"price" doesn't really reflect the whole idea of "cost-benefit analysis"

"content" as in they are content to no longer be on ILX or as in they don't like ILX's content?

other please specify: death

Also if Imago now suddenly leaves, that's on you Rip van Winko

Winko wanko potato potato

the real answer is right in the thread title. they want to banish evil from their hearts.

other: useless moderators creating problems

Truth xp

I dont work in Covent garden?

missing option: Kolinahr
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Other: pourquoi pas?

earlier today i somehow found myself viewing a 1991 channel 4 ad break on youtube, and there in the comments was r0bin c4rmody somehow pinpointing the exact date. so my answer is, other: youtube comment section culture more intellectually stimulating

redpilled, joined 4Chan

You could've told me that sam

All best posters gone to twitter

Lol not rly

I can think of at least a couple of people who were basically hounded out of here. Whatever you thought about their posting, not pleasant.

So what's Racoon Tanuki like irl?

Let me clarify: regular, non-joke people.

Poll

It's sad Garu was a G

i will never log off

maybe they forget the url

end up on the greenspun forums, keep posting there wondering where everybody went

jealous of the tireless breast-beating over ex-posters and want in on some of that action

figure they'll never get a macarthur grant if they keep fucking around on internet message boards

sudden onset of ambition to do something with life?
moved out of internet range?
lost password during change of residence?
realized Excelsior threads had lost their mojo?
finished dissertation and no longer needed so much distraction?

They become rockists

Realized they were wasting their witty posts here and moved to Twitter?

marginalized by being called trolls

New thread viewing algorithm is bullshit to enslave users

i can’t leave now, it’s too late, i even think in lowercase

finally heard every record worth hearing

See also: why do people stay on IlX

Sunk cost fallacy

forgot my password to life

altho I literally did drive someone off ILX last year and still feel shitty about it :(

Embrace it imo

reddit also has boards with blue material, if you're into that sort of thing

Lots of people in limbo as well

Missing option for Unhappy With American Domination of ILX.

U wadi not mi wadi

actually I reckon they'll all come back when dom is unbanned

Worth trying

See also: why do people stay on IlX

― calstars, Saturday, February 24, 2018 10:38 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Forgot how to maintain face-to-face relationships.

“leaving” a website is a strange concept since people really just go to other websites, and coming back is just really “hey i’ll type that url again”

I don't think people really do leave ILX here for good, they are locked in the servers like the end of "San Junipero"

https://is3-ssl.mzstatic.com/image/thumb/Purple69/v4/4d/e7/8b/4de78b49-921b-86f7-4977-98c09b2e28f3/mzl.ginwxxfm.jpg/246x0w.jpg

Why do people leave ILX for bad?

All my favorite posters got banned during the sb wars around 2008 and presumably found better things to do with their lives

who besides dom and ethan?

have kids or get a real job

ILM

Sweet memories are made of this

never understood the hate of ILM on ILE

I don't hate ILM. I am simply a bad fit for the culture there, so I avoid it. Near as I can tell, the incidence of clusterfucks is similar between ILM and ILE, so it isn't as if one is a snake pit and not the other.

For one thing for a board called I Love Music there's a load of people hating music on it

Fahrenheit v. Celsius
Aussie rules elections
Zizek

To hate music is to love music xp.

perforated ulcers

For one thing for a board called I Love Music there's a load of people hating music on it

As opposed to hating everything on ILE.

Fahrenheit v. Celsius
Aussie rules elections

unsubscribe cape ✅

Opening a thread on the shitpostiest subforum on this site and getting mad is so excellent

otm, it’s like deleting your amazon account because you really hate trampolines

never understood the hate of ILM on ILE

― Algerian Goalkeeper (Odysseus), Sunday, 25 February 2018 21:38 (thirty-one minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Dude

I don't really differentiate between ILM & ILE, tbh?

Same

Dudes

"was never real in the first place"

ilm is higher on the behave-yourself scale

ILM hate is boring as fuck tbh.

The unbannable multisockpuppetheaded hydra who is 2/3s of the posters.

Since SNA who cares what board anything is on?

Exactly

You've changed yr tune Tom!

TWU otm

Tom D means the hate is not strong enough.

need spicier hate...

Every time I check in it feels like going back to my old high school and finding everyone I went to school with still there wandering the halls and muttering to themselves

— Mark Slutsky (@totallyslutsky) January 8, 2018

I found ILX through ILM around 2001 or 2002. I prefer ILE and then the noize board. And then I left all of it for about 10 years except a maybe 2 times a year check in. ~3 months ago I started checking it every day. I'm not a social media person and I still have contact with old ilxors in person. I dunno. Sometimes I feel like venting without wanting to see likes or being notified of responses.

xpost, yeah, I am/was super surprised about all the old ilxors on here still posting regularly.

Can we post tweets now

xp why did you leave?

talk about muttering to yourself...

Tweets
35.3K

ya but

Followers
3,149
Likes
10.8K

when ilx was great, it was easily my favourite thing on the web

nobody remembers anything that anyone writes on twitter. its the epitome of mumbling down a hallway.

(xposts) I imagine I'll bail one day--not out of malice, I hope--but I can't ever imagine preferring Twitter to ILX. Not a knock on Mark, but Twitter's ridiculous. The whole idea of it makes me think of "Hank's Thoughts" from Hank Kingsley's fanzine: "I could really go for a Creamsicle right now."

when ilx was great, it was easily my favourite thing on the web

guessing you’re talking about the so not gonna happen/WHOSE ARM IS THAT?????/roll up the rim to win era

talking like 07-13

agree w/flopson

i can't be the only person who is still here because i've been here so long. who else would have me? i just use it now as a respite from facebook. i don't even consider ilx a part of the larger internet. it exists outside of time and space. and i've said it before so i'll say it again: most message boards/communities on the web are horror shows of dumb and sadness.

also totally makes sense to me that a lot of people i knew here who started writing more and more seriously and more professionally would stop typing so much somewhere for free. it takes mental energy out of you.

To hate music is to love music xp.

Eternal borad description imo

xpost — Rather.

Sometimes because we’ve got a lot of thinking to do on our own.

You guys don’t have a “post your Letterboxd” thread around here these days? How far underground did you have to go?

https://letterboxd.com/cbf/

i cant imagine leaving ilx simply because there's people who I like and love to read on ilx who wont add me on facebook/pretend they dont do facebook because they dont like me, so where else am I going to read what they say?

I’ve been spending more time on ILX because I’m not doing twitter anymore, ILX somehow healthier of a pastime.

Anyway the heat death of ILX will be no activity for 17 years and then deems bumping a thread with five posts from 2004 saying “did we ever get this sorted” and then another six years and then the final poll results will arrive

that will be a whiney poll then

xp will probably chose that very post fyi

Flooding/JCLC otm

ID politics killed ilx btw

Flopson

I started reading in 2001, posting in 2003 and left b/c of major life upheaval in 2010. I posted very occasionally for the next six years b/c of work, relationship, and feeling like things had gotten a little nastier.

But last year I quit Facebook and simultaneously realized that I have very little time to socialize IRL. And I thought about it for a while and realized that the fake and Zucker-mediated unfulfilling socializing of Facebook had taken over for the (much more) fulfilling socializing I achieve in this board. So I’m back, but I genuinely don’t know whose username corresponds to whom any more, and I just kind of assume yer all my old friends.

I miss Slocki and Chaki and tabren and Beth Parker and Maria and Jon and Ian and Jaq and Vic and Nabisco and Crump and a lot of the alexes of various cities, Elvis Telecom, rogermexico, dean, gear, tep, many, many more... and I love the little snippets from the Minnesota crew, remaining noize dudes, tombot, and laurel, and jbr, ned, morbs, Mississippi shakedown, Jess, Soto, Seattle folx, brits, darragh, chil-xors, Whiney, antipodeans and sheepfuckers, laxors, Boston types...the the teacher crew. Probably forgot heaps of you too. I actually got a lot of love for y’all, and w/o Facebook I’m here for the long haul.

"most message boards/communities on the web are horror shows of dumb and sadness." is otm. Even in these grey senescent days there's just nowhere else where people aren't complete fucking idiots.

ID politics killed ilx btw

Yeah I don't even really believe it myself silby

Point being tho, right, that christ even saying it five years ago would have started a magnificent riot by now

Ah good times

The various exoduses (is that right) would make a good study maybe, what threads caused what tranche to leave

The learnings could be the next Hawthorne study

We can still get people blood libeling each other sometimes but it’s not the same as a multi-way pileup it’s true xp

I note soda's having separated me from britcrew above btw it's appreciated surely

Can i get a pointer to the last good blood libel, I'm not sleeping.

soda doesnt like the scots?

He's within his rights and may have his reasons.

Also, it's "the scotch" fyi

that's whisky.

deej vs forks is much fiercer and more genuinely ill-meant than anyone rly expected

also at least 3 of rb's miss list still post regularly iirc

make that 5 or 6

more than that i reckon.

i stick aroun’ cos fb has become dire and i just don’t GET twitter/tumblr one whit.

i’d happily go back to usenet if anyone’d still use it.

tipping

It reaches a point alright

why do people leave ilx for ill?

we call that graduating

why do people leave ILX for evil?

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I would have assumed demands of family life or career would have stopped me from posting by now. I've been a lurker/low volume poster for probably about 12 years now, but with 3 kids + full time job without a huge amount of down time I'm sometimes surprised by how much I've become attached to this place (this is by far my most used web site).

This place has become my most reliable provider of music/movie/tv recommendations, which is pretty important when you actually don't have the time to watch a lot tv and movies (I can at least listen to a lot of music when working). So yeah, I'm probably going to keep doing my one post every 2 weeks thing for a while yet.

i like instagram! i like pictures. i don't post anything because i don't have a phone. i like seeing my friends' pictures though and nothing but the pictures. it is really good pr for the store too. much better than facebook ever was and all i do is have rufus post pictures of records.

i can't stand twitter. never liked it. always avoid it.

one post every 2 weeks

goals

Oh, I know a lot of my list still post. I just have no idea who they are, and I like to read a lot of posts by unknown/different names and think, gee... I wonder if that’s X? And I don’t need to confirm it because if it’s not by X it makes me sad.

True fact tho: I hav yo post almost exclusively from my phone (typos probably make that obvious) because work owns my computer and blocks it from non-work sites... and incidentally there’s no cellular/WiFi signal at work. So posting is limited to vacations, evenings I’m not teaching, and cool-downs from the treadmill at the gym.

Love to Scots posters, to you I raise a crumb-soaked egg. And also the China ILXors, wherever you may be.

I voted other and I guess just the relative dearth of users compared to the old days and that fact that many good posters who used to post a lot no longer post is surely one of the biggest issues. I have thought about leaving for good but I come back due to, I dunno, sentimental reasons? I follow v few ilxors on social media so if I leave I'll never hear about posters here that I've *known* via this website for over a decade, would be weird. Like if imago gets hit by a bus tomorrow I'd like to be privy to that information

You guys are the best. Thanks for kicking the shit out of me back in the day.

here to help

I'd post a lot less (ie prob never) if I only had phone access as I also find it a PITA to type.

i'd post a lot more but suspect that people get tired of my obscure aussie rules elections references rather quickly - and if you're fanging for that, check out my 17,844 tweets

i can’t leave now, it’s too late, i even think in lowercase

truth bomb

whatever i said whatever i did i didnt mean i just want to leave ilx for good

discussed this thread with 2 ex-posters in the last 24 hours

talking like 07-13

― flopson, Sunday, 25 February 2018 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Kids today.

xp outcomes plz

i'm going to quit posting because i didn't make rb's rollcall

wow owned

Totes honorary britcrew son stand down

Moving on / generational switch? Seems to me at least, when now reading old ilx posts.

xxxxpost I like slutsky a lot but I thought that tweet flopson posted was really dickish and smug.

overall I like it and I wish all you find internet posters the best.

but you know, I've always said ilx bemoaning the downfall of ilx is ilx's greatest tradition.

to the point where now, for example, the era flopson views as the glory days was at the time viewed as a decline from ilx's golden age.

ilx: why is it so bad and hated

xp that's an essential truth alright

the decline posts started less than a year after the advent of ILM

before we even left greenspun

Ha, yeah. 07-13 didn't really stand out as exceptional in my memory at first but there were some good polls and listening clubs then tbf.

social media as self-promotional arena(s) require(s) regular platform migration by committed opportunists

what if I told you...the golden age hasn't happened yet

I ain't going anywhere.

the roman empire never ended iirc

ilx, our collective black iron prison

xxxxpost I like slutsky a lot but I thought that tweet flopson posted was really dickish and smug.

what do you expect, it was a tweet

tweeting about quitting ILX is on a plane of ridiculousness I hadn’t really conceived of before (sorry Ronan)

to the point where now, for example, the era flopson views as the glory days was at the time viewed as a decline from ilx's golden age.

yeah but us golden agers were wrong about that then is the thing imo. the olden olden greenspun days threads -- I don't think I can be the only back-when dude who sees them now and goes "wow y'all need an editor." some influx of young cats who'd got online younger (cats who nb could also be total dicks a lot of the time & really hounded the people they didn't like imo & that was toxic as shit so there's that too) circa 07ish improved posting generally just by the speed of their game - the general tenor of the internet/social media also has a lot to do w/this mind but I think during that time ilx was learning to think of itself differently and consequently there were big lols to be had.

Food poll tournament undoubtedly the pinnacle of ilx imo

nb the old-schoolers also hounded ppl I'm not suggesting neo-ilxors invented being dicks to ppl on the board

xp otm

I think the periods when I've got the most from ilx are ≈ 01-03 (when it felt like a real community of people with fascinating new ideas, even if most of it seems ridiculous in retrospect) and the last few years (when I've been getting the most satisfying music recommendations).

Every time I pass over an egg option for a cheese option on the menu I smile like the Mona Lisa nobody has ever asked me why but the internal monologue is fierce at I can assure u

xpost I get that jclc

The one way in which that slutsky tweet is wrong: twitter can attract the same sorts of ppl as ILX -- ok that depends on which twitter you follow -- nevertheless I often think this or that person would've been perfect for ILX except twitter got in the way of them ending up here.

I've never been on FB (lol def not Linkedin) but I don't get that impression.

the writing and editing of posts improved when I joined imo

here's my blueprint for triumph

- clandestine recruitment drive on other websites. candidates are discussed at length on 77. if they pass muster they are sent a PM on their own website simply reading 'you are ready for ilxor' like how bill bruford joined king crimson. you laugh but I actually recruited both ultros ultros-ghali and Spottie using this technique on Drowned In Sound, and I'm prepared to repeat the process on RYM and so forth
- restructuring of the boards (we can discuss this) that doesn't sacrifice the overall vibe. STRONGLY recommend separate 'I Love Politics' board for starters
- more proactive/comedy modding. it gets a bit moribund on that front these days
- 'guest artists' come and give interviews/do AMAs like on Reddit EXCEPT they're all kind of obscure/ilxor types like avalon emerson or that guy who directed horse money or w/e. if the site was run a little more like a culture blog this wouldn't be too hard to organise
- ilxor youtube channel
- some kind of social component I haven't calculated yet

basically, anything to make this place less of a waste of time for ppl, and more of an indispensable cultural nexus containing all the math, all the languages etc

That posts needs more DJ Martian

been here 15 years and de subjectivisten remains a(n excellent) mystery

PLANK xyzzzz doesn't believe in SOCIAL NETWORKS

I could see leaving ILX at least temporarily if I found myself in a new job which made it more difficult to toss out witty ripostes in the midst of 'doing work'. Or if I decided to devote time to being successful at something in life ever.

- 'guest artists' come and give interviews/do AMAs like on Reddit EXCEPT they're all kind of obscure/ilxor types like avalon emerson or that guy who directed horse money or w/e. if the site was run a little more like a culture blog this wouldn't be too hard to organise

this is a cool idea actually

Ha, yeah. 07-13 didn't really stand out as exceptional in my memory at first but there were some good polls and listening clubs then tbf.

― No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r),

the listening clubs were indeed fun but they were never going to last

- clandestine recruitment drive on other websites. candidates are discussed at length on 77. if they pass muster they are sent a PM on their own website simply reading 'you are ready for ilxor' like how bill bruford joined king crimson. you laugh but I actually recruited both ultros ultros-ghali and Spottie using this technique on Drowned In Sound, and I'm prepared to repeat the process on RYM and so forth

How many people will leave ILX for good if this is introduced?

restructuring of the boards (we can discuss this) that doesn't sacrifice the overall vibe. STRONGLY recommend separate 'I Love Politics' board for starters

I second this, particularly part B.

everything is political tho and we already have an i love everything board

https://im-01.gifer.com/13N8.gif

U can't remove politics from anything iirc

Lol xp

Srs suggestion: everyone forced to join I live footy

The world cup threads are the bright counterweight to what used to be a similarly periodic shitfest of US elections but somewhere along the way a particularly clunky comparison of trump to something something face like a melting wax ass lololol tore through the unknown materials and rules that combine to dictate the strange gravity and orbit of these event threads and now we all live in the awful US election thread universe

If I no longer loved music I would quit this place bc the discussion of most other topics I care about isn’t strong here & I don’t care about movies or tv but I do love music so I’ll be around. It seems like older people stop loving music and turn to tv and movies instead or just turn away from social life on the internet. if you leave for Twitter well then you get what you deserve.

football is cancer

bc the discussion of most other topics I care about isn’t strong here

rude imo

I've never really thought of ILE as more or less than a secondary board that was created so music fans could also have a place to shoot the shit about other things.

If I no longer loved music I would quit this place bc the discussion of most other topics I care about isn’t strong here & I don’t care about movies or tv

what else is there after art and politics and food?

fucking for one

humping iirc

eyyyy

plus the weather

"Sex" and "food" are synonymous.

I've never really thought of ILE as more or less than a secondary board that was created so music fans could also have a place to shoot the shit about other things.

I only come here when ILM slows down to a crawl. Like imago said, a separate 'I love (US) politics' board would make this neck of the woods more appealing (to me, at least).

then why am i so much better at eating than shagging xp

It's funny but I dont think I ever looked at ILE for it's first few years of existence. Pretty sure 2003 will be when I first posted there at the earliest. I remember DG setting it up though. I miss DG but he always comes back every few years

then why am i so much better at eating than shagging xp

― NEW CHIMP THREAT (bizarro gazzara),

using the wrong recipes

it's a poor workman that blames his tools

Pl

surely it's the ten thousand hours thing

PLANK xyzzzz doesn't believe in SOCIAL NETWORKS

― imago, Monday, 26 February 2018 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Your ideas are thrash and I'm the plank?

I've never really thought of ILE as more or less than a secondary board that was created so music fans could also have a place to shoot the shit about other things.

― No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Monday, 26 February 2018 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

This board got good around 2013 which is roughly around the time I started to take it seriously, as it happens.

I support LJ’s proposal and volunteer to do alumni interviews with prospective posters in the new york/new jersey region.

if they pass muster they are sent a PM on their own website simply reading 'you are ready for ilxor'

there was an episode of Lewis with some club like this it was not good and did not end well

Oh well let's just give up so

How many people will leave ILX for good if this is introduced?

― Video reach stereo bog (Tom D.)

i don't know. me, maybe? y'all want to be important and influential and popular and that's not me. i'm a long tail guy. the more this place becomes a Twitter Annex the less i care.

we turn the board into an interactive realtime mystery game where there's a clue in every poll

I haven't stopped posting but I post way less frequently than I used to and I think it really is because most of my favorite posters don't post anymore and it doesn't seem anywhere near as interesting or as funny. Also, and maybe I am wrong in thinking this, but it feels like there are far fewer women posting these days and I think that factors in somehow too.

i love bees

also the whole idea of ilx as a Planned Community seems so pathetic to me, things have an organic lifecycle and if this community is heading for extinction i say embrace it

Amen.

There really are way, way fewer women posting these days. Unless they're doing so surreptitiously. It's a shame.

if they pass muster they are sent a PM on their own website simply reading 'you are ready for ilxor' like how bill bruford joined king crimson.

Robert Fripp is such a fucking dickhead. Apropos of nothing.

i definitely read ilx more than i post to ilx these days. i don't really have any places to hang out anymore. i'll never unlock my gold Ned badge at this rate.

xxpost - It is. :( I miss them and of course I dp realize that by not posting as much I myself am contributing to that trend. Come back women!

that guy who directed horse money or w/e

lol good to know that Portugal's most famous/only criterionized director is still seen as a dude who'd totally have the time and inclination to talk to randos on ILX (probably not far wrong tbh).

Early 00's ILM was super formative to me as a young rockist wannabe rock critic, opened so many doors not just for then contemporary Hip-Hop and Chartpop but also Jazz, Techno, House, Ska. Atmosphere was far from friendly but really I cherish the beatdowns I got from jess, Blount and the like - at 18 I really needed to be told to stfu and stop thinking I was a genius.

I do miss a ton of posters but on a selfish level I feel like the brain drain from this forum makes it possible for me to post mostly w/o ridicule so...

jess and blount were a deadly duo. they trampled the weak and hurdled the dead.

i don't miss the mean-spiritedness of old ilx at all, like 0%
i do miss some of the people who have left but mostly they are on facebook or twitter if we are hungry for their thoughts. one of the best things about ilx is the lack of quantification of how many people approve of your thoughts and the democratizing bland b/w landscape. it's a huge equalizer, which some people like and i guess others don't.

Prolific women posters leaving is the most bummer ilx trend

x-post - I thought I should add that I'm glad you are still posting a lot LL because whenever I do read or post I'm glad to see you here.

I can't even imagine posting a pic on a what do you look like thread nowadays. I think a lot of people just got super private. I hung out with rjg last month and we were discussing old ilxors and what their new names are. I've been so confused about who is who.

I figured the lack of WDYLLs was less because of privacy and more because many of us know what each other looks like these days because of Facebook.

FB you can at least control the audience and admin. Here you can't. I happened to be at a housewarming in London about 2 years ago and there were 5 old school London ilxors there that I had met at a fap 10 years prior. It was a trip.

Yeah I guess you're right that had just never occurred to me as a major reason.

xp - that's good to hear! :)
this is a great place to be if you like to discuss things (music in particular) but actually don't wish to cultivate followers or quantify how much people like your thoughts

as long as you're not posting photos of yourself or other private deets, ilx is a good place to discuss things that are not personal, which is 95% of what i am comfortable discussing in general -- both online and off.

Also there's the thing where some of us who were once young and spry are now old and broken and don't care to commemorate the brutal savagery of time's passage with photographic evidence.

x-post - I've found it really helpful over the years for discussing some very personal things but I'm generally pretty open with people (could probably stand to be more guarded tbh) irl too I think.

overly simplistic maybe but this could all be that old ilxors are now 18 years older and more likely to have families, kids, etc and are too busy to regularly post here. nothing on the internet is expected to last 20 years anyway, so ilx still being here is a minor miracle

i don't miss the mean-spiritedness of old ilx at all, like 0%

I remember this being worst around the time of the supposed Golden Age, though, at least the first part of it.

I don't remember any mean-spiritness. Except maybe for the twoooooo weeeeeks thing.

w/out really speculating on root cause ilx feels less funny, less open, less communal, and less freewheeling than it did when i really liked it here. i mostly stick to one small corner of the site at this point and hopefully the crew there stays strong and active for a long time.

other: gaz coombes

The underlying lack of anonymity that so many of you seem to cherish makes this place even more alienating to a newcomer tbh. I already felt this during my first stint as a half-lurker in 2003 or so.

CAD otm. It is most definitely all of those things for me too.

but actually don't wish to cultivate followers or quantify how much people like your thoughts

i enjoy the challenge of hurling bon mots into the abyss day after day, with only the occasional grudging excelsior to offer a brief, bittersweet endorphin burst

i hate 'likes' and hate 'upvotes' even more, all of that shit is poisonous

'i hate likes and i like everything else'

what is ILX like on a phone? if its in any way not phone-friendly that might be another reason why people stick to their tweets and instacat pictures.

it's super phone friendly (except that you can't search out an old thread you want to bump)

I don't remember any mean-spiritness. Except maybe for the twoooooo weeeeeks thing.

― Yerac, Monday, 26 February 2018 16:02 (fourteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Roy Keane Saipan?!

XP I ilx phone exclusively it is not a demotivator

other: gaz coombes

his underapprecation on this board is a scandal, it's true

One person's 'ilx got less mean' is another person's 'jesus this place suck now' I dunno if that could be of value to point out

True, some people seem to treat him as some sort of figure of fun. (xp)

Lol throughout the years i’ve always thought “do A and B, like, actually know each other irl and hang out at those fappy things or whatever theyre called”?

I dont recall ilx being super mean-spirited, but that 07 period was pretty high energy. Xp

i love j0n W irl but cmon he was mean. cutty was mean. hst3nc1l was mean.

darraghmac that point has been clear to me since people started calling it the golden age
classic insider/outsider perspectives!

i remember a lot of mean spiritedness
just for one quick example, the threads where people would make fun of other people on the board were at least somewhat openly mean-spirited, at least they were imo
i used to follow them just to make sure i didn't show up. honest truth there. :-/

I don't remember any of them being mean? But I also always thought gabbneb was fine too. He at least would buy pizza at faps for everyone.

i always felt bad when people got picked on here. even if they were being jerky or obtuse. nobody has ever really picked on me here and if that was common i totally wouldn't still be here. i never understood the people who were gluttons for punishment. why they took/take abuse for so long. maybe some people just like getting yelled at.

Thankfully I've only ever gotten consistent grief from one mysteriously-beloved dickhole who's since vacated the premises. It wasn't enough to make me leave but it was a fuckin' bummer and definitely curbed my posting significantly.

As long as Mordy and Dr Morbius both post there will be equilibrium.

Two wallows do not make a wummer guys let's keep thread posi and constructive!

"It wasn't enough to make me leave but it was a fuckin' bummer and definitely curbed my posting significantly."

this happened to me too. where i really thought i was going for good because of one person. i couldn't take it. i did actually leave for awhile because of it.

I was terrified of the "what a horribly formed 'joke'" thread because I both like to joke and can be pretty sensitive (more so in the past).

i hate 'likes' and hate 'upvotes' even more, all of that shit is poisonous

Starting to post here again after years of Facebook was really a trip because you have to lay down your thoughts without any knowledge of what the majority thinks of them beyond yr own ability to read the room. It's kinda scary but leads to way more interesting convos, also when someone does go "OTM" the endorphin rush is so much sweeter.

RONG

Thankfully I've only ever gotten consistent grief from one mysteriously-beloved dickhole who's since vacated the premises. It wasn't enough to make me leave but it was a fuckin' bummer and definitely curbed my posting significantly.

yea I stopped posting for a while because of that person too. he'd literally tell other posters to get raped and die over the most innocuous shit and most of ILX would just be like "aww, hope you work past your mental issues *hugs*" meanwhile I'd rack up 5,000,000 SBs because I posted about how shirtless Australian dudes were hot

Can we name names here I'm kinda lost

I'll turn all mirrors inwards if it helps

You're slipping D.

Actually I might be thinking of the wrong person.

deems otm so many mysteriously-beloved dickholes to choose from

best-beloved dickhole

(sorry enbb, much love to benson)

We're talking about Dom, right?

x-post lol

yeah I'm sure frogbs and OL are talking about different ppl but I have no idea who (well with frogbs I do)

beloved is not usu. a word I associate with Dom tbh

lmao you might be right

Yeah, p sure we're talking about different people. Dom was no treat but never abusive towards me.

frogbs is talking about a certain hungry princess who was by all accounts a v sweet guy when he wasn't spewing trollish hatred online

OL I can't tell but I have an inkling

LJ, your inkling is most likely correct.

oh yes princess [percussion instrument frequently used by Mahler] right

What

Jesus times I wonder was I ever on this site at all

ah yes, princess coconuts

a few posters quit forever during the Luna thing, m1ss m1s3ry i remember in partic

why did turangalila quit? I can't remember now. And did he come back?

I don't ever like people being dicks about other people unless those other people have really done something to deserve it, think I'm probably not alone in this, but it's difficult to forcibly stand up for wishy washy opinions even if they are obviously right.

The only thing beneficial about likes and upvotes is knowing someone read your post? ILX is full of little essays followed by responses to other posts or new little essays. Upvotes or likes compensate for the fact that you can't pick up on normal face to face conversation visual or audio cues. You have to see someone respond to a point nested in your essay to find out whether you're even part of the discussion.

xposts

a few posters quit forever during the Luna thing, m1ss m1s3ry i remember in partic

why did turangalila quit? I can't remember now. And did he come back?

― Lockhorn. Lockhorn breed-uh (Jon not Jon), Monday, February 26, 2018 9:06 AM (one minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

kv_nol bailed during lunagate, but not before attempting to give me the ol "what for" in an email.

yea I stopped posting for a while because of that person too. he'd literally tell other posters to get raped and die over the most innocuous shit and most of ILX would just be like "aww, hope you work past your mental issues *hugs*"

― frogbs, Monday, February 26, 2018 11:44 AM (twenty-three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I had this experience! I did get an apology eventually though. Wonder if it's the same person.

it's possible i know who Old Lunch is talking about too but idk.

http://revuepostures.com/sites/postures-dev.aegirnt2.uqam.ca/files/thumbnails/image/sans_titre8.png

I forget, was Lunagate that she wasn't who she was in her posted pics???

The only thing beneficial about likes and upvotes is knowing someone read your post? ILX is full of little essays followed by responses to other posts or new little essays. Upvotes or likes compensate for the fact that you can't pick up on normal face to face conversation visual or audio cues. You have to see someone respond to a point nested in your essay to find out whether you're even part of the discussion.

i know what you're saying, but i don't buy this. i think likes/upvotes/quantifying response can be toxic to both the discussion and the self. i would rather know someone is engaging with someone i said by seeing what i said quoted and responded to. that's how you know you are part of the conversation :) voting/liking is not conversationally equivalent to body language imo.

Ah right, I think I know who frogbs is talking about.

ah yes, princess coconuts

― alien lames (NickB), Monday, February 26, 2018 5:05 PM (three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lmao

yerac, yes but it was much more than that. the main lunagate thread is worth reading when you have a few hours.

oops
with someone should be someTHING not one
woops

Nah, I kind of remember when it was going on, but I wasn't that invested in it at the time either.

i mean i guess it is also kind of boring placed in the wider world of 'weird online grifter shit'. At the time I was glued to my fuckin' desk though

i can't believe it's been over ten years since Lunagate

For some reason I thought she still posted here?

Based on what I know and what I've inferred, I cannot imagine that Luna would be at all welcome around these parts.

why did turangalila quit? I can't remember now. And did he come back?

― Lockhorn. Lockhorn breed-uh (Jon not Jon)

he's fine but says hes no intentions of coming back. He's on FB though.

I know who imago refers to but no idea with old lunch

Oh wait, did Luna end up being a man? Ha, maybe I should go and re-read the threads.

I do suggest a re-read instead of rehashing it all here tbh

Ah right, I think I know who frogbs is talking about.

Strike that, I meant the person OL is talking about, have no idea who frogbs is talking out. This is hard work.

i'll never unlock my gold Ned badge at this rate.

Patience and time, my friend.

i like the current era of ILX a lot, which is kind of a lonely position. it's different than older eras, but still in a good way. it's smaller, but i also feel like i recognize most people and have a rough idea of where they're coming from on any given thread. i enjoy my messageboard community.

to address the OP, at least some people leave because they're just trying to leave the internet in general. that was the case with me, twice. i failed miserably both times, and immediately came back. but during those times, i would start to see the internet/ILX as a place that i've invested so much time and energy into at the expense of real life, like a zero sum game. so i'd freak out and try to cut myself off to force myself to be a normal human being in the real world. that dichotomy is baloney, though.

i might be alone in that as well, though. i think what barreras described above is probably the more likely explanation for the general attenuation of the board:

overly simplistic maybe but this could all be that old ilxors are now 18 years older and more likely to have families, kids, etc and are too busy to regularly post here. nothing on the internet is expected to last 20 years anyway, so ilx still being here is a minor miracle

xposts There was no overt beefing on my part, inasmuch as my interactions with said poster were limited to saying 'hey, dude I never interact with and have no desire to interact with, stop evoking my name in threads whose entire purpose is to rank on other posters'.

I'm with you, KM. This is my favorite era of ILX. People don't have to agree or even get along but the general diffusion of outright antagonism these days is a relief.

Yeah my inkling about OL is true

The guy was an incredible poster and a one-off but he could, it's true, be a little spiteful

KM and OL OTM.

i think i worked it out

Ah, maybe it isn't who I'm thinking of then! Pretty sure it's someone else now.

i know what you're saying, but i don't buy this. i think likes/upvotes/quantifying response can be toxic to both the discussion and the self. i would rather know someone is engaging with someone i said by seeing what i said quoted and responded to. that's how you know you are part of the conversation :) voting/liking is not conversationally equivalent to body language imo.

― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Monday, February 26, 2018 12:14 PM (two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yeah I'm not exactly arguing in support of it, but I see some value in that system when the feature isn't abused (and that's rare of course). It is a shame though to watch your big thoughtful post drift off to sea then wait all day in the widow's walk hoping for some kind of acknowledgement, perhaps even a juicy OTM!

Oh cankles!

Far be it from me to note that you have to know how seriously to take some ppl I mean that's a dangerous comment to make I know but I mean

Cankles!

i like the current era of ILX a lot, which is kind of a lonely position

not a lonely position. i'm right there with you on that.

it's hard to xls everything from memory but wasn't the princess a new user name for cankles?

And look.

Look

I got time for my guy frogbs indeed I think I was a lot more light-hearted on him at the time than many posters posting itt tbh

But frogbs cmon man do you even remember how you hit this place at the start

Guys let's not utterly rewrite it all!

xpost
a relatively lonely position on this thread, at least, as i scan through it! but yeah, there must be a lot of people who agree. otherwise, why come here all the time (other than habit or to resolve one last beef before leaving in triumph)

i would start to see the internet/ILX as a place that i've invested so much time and energy into at the expense of real life

As long as you are not trying to invert Maslow's Pyramid your 'real life' is probably fine. Some people here would mock the idea, but ILX encourages and stimulates the intellect. You can't make a whole life out of that, but after you've satisfied certain other more-basic needs, ILX provides an agora for the agoraphobic.

lol otm, you gotta cop to that fb! xxp

frogbs became a good poster when he explained how d3athdr0ne was bad at poker

x-post - lol yeah I remember hating and giving Frogbs shit for something years ago and although I can't remember the particulars I do remember that it was something pretty misogynistic. I think. My point is that I think it was rare for someone to get shit if they didn't at least sort of deserve it in some way. I'm not advocating bullying by any means but I do miss some of the more lighthearted ribbing that used to go on.

frogbs a poster who really came into his own after surviving the haze imo

xpost loving 'an agora for the agoraphobic'! A+

He wdylled a tadpolebs and it was all love from thereon in

My wife says "you're always reading your blue boxes" but I think she's starting to understand the conversations here are more substantive than what might be typical of an "internet message board" to the disengaged. It's addicting but it's not the junk food that is browsing most social media.

yes @ frogbs becoming a valuable poster @ poker w/ d34thdr0ne xp

good times

xp I miss a lot of the heavy-hearted ribbing but I don't expect to win votes with that sentiment

it's a cool club tbh - people who showed up, irritated the entire forum and then hung around until they were part of the furniture. each one a victory for the corrective powers of the zing

how did wins sidestep the process? is he a demon?

sorry daemon

And ok "deserve" was probably a poor choice there word wise. Yes, some people def took it pretty far but I guess I just don't remember any sort of mean spiritedness that ever seemed completely unprovoked.

ILX provides an agora for the agoraphobic.

oh, for sure. i've come around to that. it's amazing to be able to bump a relatively minor topic (like the raspberry pi thread) with a handful of weird questions about a project, and then get really thoughtful advice soon afterward from people that i know, and that i know will still be there in a few weeks and might be interested in how the project is coming along.

My first OP was an inadvertent duplicate thread for Mad Men season 4 which enraged lag8n and he image bombed my thread, so a mod locked his thread in response

Now we’re best buds

man i wish jbr would come back

FTR, I'm not so thin-skinned that I can't deal with ribbing or criticism. sleeve, eg, has been vocal about his lack of appreciation for my Trump posts but I have no beef with sleeve even though I can't understand why anyone would ever object to anything I've ever posted because it's all kind of amazing tbh.

Ages ago, I wrote what was easily my most vitriolic post on the board in response to a shitty attack post by someone I subsequently spent ages thinking was a total dick and who I now think is a pretty cool dude and poster. ILX clearly demonstrates that bridges can be mended if one posts from a place of openness and love. Namaste.

Tone policing valid criticism nagl my man

Also link plz

Ages ago, I wrote what was easily my most vitriolic post on the board in response to a shitty attack post by someone I subsequently spent ages thinking was a total dick and who I now think is a pretty cool dude and poster. ILX clearly demonstrates that bridges can be mended if one posts from a place of openness and love. Namaste.

Same and otm.

yeah, that's happened to me more than once too. and a lot of the times it goes the other way, too, where i was being a complete dick to someone for no reason and then gradually realized that the other person was a human being who was actually really interesting

I still hate everyone I ever hated ftr.

my posting has slowed down a lot, or it feels like it has. i peaked years ago! i don't really have much to talk about on here these days nor much to contribute. i'm not disinterested, but i'm beginning to feel like i want to hang on for one last big poll and then get out. like a heist movie. except I'm heisting music recommendations.

lots of the posters i was pals with back in the day i don't really talk to anymore, but that's maybe bc I'm not one who's ever met anyone IRL (except JBR for about a minute, and she's great!)

I do believe that every ILXor I've met IRL has been gone from the board for a decade+ at this point.

now i just post GIFs to watch their fuckin' expression change etc

I keep misreading this thread titles as "Why do good people leave ILX?"

dear god, why does ilx happen to good people?

there's people you thought left years ago but are still around in a new username that everyone but me knows who it is

Sund4r hates people? A new facet haha

02-03 were fun years for me

w/r/t recruitment, i have done my part by both speaking with people in person and virtually

have successfully gotten a handful of people on board but they all give me the same feedback

also i think these are good but different times

people get nostalgic for the past or for what can't be had

Who was infinity symbol

meanwhile, i still don't have the slightest idea who the infinity symbol is

dmac u and i will never agree on socks just tellin u rn bud

I mean is that a clue I mean

Way I'm feeling rn I'm just gonna disappear and come back as '?'

what are your positions on socks?

Mine?

Hmm we could extrapolate I spose

Just thought I can't come back as ? because jay batman would kick my ass

I'm against socks I think it's a silly business.

Online like.

One of my favourite genres of ilxor is people who have been here for like 15 years, always with the same username, and yet are subtle enough to slip under the radar

NZ's own 'etc' being one of the finest exponents of this

xp i certainly can't read either of your minds! and i did ask.

Sund4r hates people? A new facet haha

Sometimes yes, but I was joking there tbc.

i have no desire to connect my various usernames to previous ones bc i don't treat this message board the same way others do, and never have, if people want an explanation

i do think i've gotten old too and am much less profane than before

just livin for the moment and chilin in lyfe now

other: when they tore the statscock down

Ok guys

Who was infinity

Srs now

chexy obv

who?

c21m50nh3x460n, but that doesn't explain who he was back in 02-03

but like he says, now chillin in lyfe.

oh come on he's not crimso

who the fuck is crimso?

not him that's for sure

jaymc to thread plz

I'd be surprised if chexy wasn't new as chexy tbh

Who is the sockpuppetmaster of ilx

TWU what's happening to me

He Do the Posters in Different Voices

the seemingly decline in big cultural tentpole moments is a factor for me. a lot of what made ilx fun for me was participating in those threads. although i guess a new star wars can be relied upon to come out every year. i think this is especially apparent on the music side. i mean just look at what was #1 for the tracks poll! a song nobody loved.

maybe that's another way of saying lots of good discussion can be found somewhere else, and also maybe that i'm less interested in engaging with the 'culture' nowadays. i will say ilx is nice though in that it's often a refuge from the hysteria present on other social media like twitter, the politics thread is often a good splash of cold water from trump fear.

also unfortunate is the number of shitty posts blanketing the board from posters like infinity symbol which makes finding the good stuff that much harder.

anyway! ilx is dead, long live ilx.

Who is the sockpuppetmaster of ilx

― Simpson L. (darraghmac), Monday, February 26, 2018 1:40 PM (five minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Like online or on our own time?

Dyao so help me

Who is the sockpuppetmaster of ilx

it's these two kids:

https://i.imgur.com/cX2mKYS.jpg

Johnny Mathis and Mark Cuban

Write in vote for I save my best comments for secret ilx chat room bc tbph the ppl there are cooler sors

😮

Head spinning now

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/e4/99/0b/e4990bf906ca52606033de1d330698c3--infinity-quotes-fun-quotes.jpg

yea I admit I spent a lot of time trying to rile people up in the old days and a lot of my opinions were flat out dumb. one big moment for me was when I used the word "uppity" in the "is this racist" thread and a lot of people gave me shit for using such a "racially charged word". but I *honest to God* never remembering hearing the word in that context (or just didn't realize it at the time) so I thought all you guys were trolling me so I kept trolling back even harder, and then I looked it up and it turns out it IS a racially charged word, and I wanted to go and say "my bad" but wound up with 68,000 SBs and couldn't post for a while

lol I tried to get into the discord chat the other day and I guess it's gone or something. I don't understand the new ways of using the internet.

ilx declined when I stopped lurking and started posting regularly

yea I admit I spent a lot of time trying to rile people up in the old days and a lot of my opinions were flat out dumb. one big moment for me was when I used the word "uppity" in the "is this racist" thread and a lot of people gave me shit for using such a "racially charged word". but I *honest to God* never remembering hearing the word in that context (or just didn't realize it at the time) so I thought all you guys were trolling me so I kept trolling back even harder, and then I looked it up and it turns out it IS a racially charged word, and I wanted to go and say "my bad" but wound up with 68,000 SBs and couldn't post for a while

― frogbs, Monday, February 26, 2018 10:59 AM (one minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol at this wtf

Crazy that one ILX is not enough for people, they need two of the fuckers.

Write in vote for I save my best comments for secret ilx chat room bc tbph the ppl there are cooler sors

― Mordy, Monday, February 26, 2018 12:53 PM (five minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I think this is the funniest shit, how many 'secret' chat rooms do we have now that are mostly ilx people? lagoon and I tried making a slack but no one joined but there are at least two active ones I know of, but am not part of (probably for the best)

but but but

xxp

unite all boards into a single one

Have to say 77 and [secret board name redacted] are where it is pretty much these days.

Oh wow auto corrected secret borad! :D

those chats are where they breed trolls w/regulars and come up with nefarious armies, i think that's what TWU is maybe on about.

I have heard of the double-secret board and have it on authority that it sucks

one big moment for me was when I used the word "uppity" in the "is this racist" thread and a lot of people gave me shit for using such a "racially charged word". but I *honest to God* never remembering hearing the word in that context (or just didn't realize it at the time) so I thought all you guys were trolling me so I kept trolling back even harder, and then I looked it up and it turns out it IS a racially charged word, and I wanted to go and say "my bad" but wound up with 68,000 SBs and couldn't post for a while

Oh man I remember this because, full disclosure, I didn't realize before then that it was racially charged and just thought it mean stuck up.

Imagine there's no 77. It's easy if you try.
No Moderator Request Forum. No I Love TMI.

i can tell how out of it i am bc i didn't even know these chats exist.

those chats are where they breed trolls w/regulars and come up with nefarious armies, i think that's what TWU is maybe on about.

― omar little, Monday, February 26, 2018 7:03 PM (forty seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

those chats made Trump president iirc

Hold on, there's more than one secret/invitation only board?

isn't TWU just rolling with the ongoing delusion that everyone who disagrees with him is a bot army, and not a bunch of people just reacting to bad posts

TWU's conspiracy theory is legitimately one of my favorite ongoing traditions.

oh and a couple of weeks ago, another great poster was driven off the board by a shitty poster. so there's that!

i love the idea of ILX crisis actors responding to bad opinions about Prefab Sprout or something.

is brad really gone xp? i may be done with ILM if brad is done

dayo otm

dayo i just rescreened that Johnnie To movie you sent me, it holds up.

i thought TWU was playing that for laughs nowadays tbh

Can't thank y'all enough that all this old days style excitement kicked off the day the wife left the country for a week

omar and dayo otm

"Hold on, there's more than one secret/invitation only board?

― Video reach stereo bog (Tom D.), Monday, February 26, 2018 2:05 PM (one minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

AFAIK no there isn't. There are, however, other boards that ILX posters have started and brought posters with them but they're not hosted by ILX or hidden here.

dayo i just rescreened that Johnnie To movie you sent me, it holds up.

― omar little, Monday, February 26, 2018 2:07 PM (forty-five seconds ago) Bookmark

sparrow? man did i send this to you or just make the rec? either way glad you liked it!

Sez u xp

I have one at \ilx.xls but nobody else posts to it :(

like youtubers sending their armies on a raid

Can't thank y'all enough that all this old days style excitement kicked off the day the wife left the country for a week

― Simpson L. (darraghmac), Monday, February 26, 2018 7:07 PM (two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Shees mr. you could've given us a couple of days notice at least that it'll be deems week this week.

Possibly 2 posters given I haven't seen someone else post since that incident but could just be coincidence xps

yeah Sparrow! you emailed me a download. i should show it to my w1fe, might be a good HK gateway drug, then she'll be into Bunman and Red to Kill before i know it.

party at dmacs lads

dyng at "w1fe" for some reason

hahahah same

the old Aim CHATZ run by roxy were fun

google w1fe and find omar little

tbh I am amazed anyone from ilx interacts with me on twitter. I realized after doing some cleanup that apparently I only respond to people on there in a really haphazard way, or after a few drinks

sorry to everyone who's still here who got weird misspelled or incoherent messages on that site. I'm going to do better. not on ilx, though.

I'm going to do better. not on ilx, though

― mh, Monday, February 26, 2018 11:15 AM (twenty-three seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

new board description

is brad really gone xp? i may be done with ILM if brad is done

yeah brad bounced iirc after being treated very shabbily by a regular

tbph i don't think brad left bc of that interaction. i mean maybe he did but it would be weird if a drive-by by a known troll and provocateur on one thread drove him off the rest of the site. maybe he's using it as an excuse to take a break in which case more power to him.

Paranoid I typed "wife" now

join me on the dark web, where we say "p4rtner"

actually if you google "ilxor" and "w1fe" you do find me, i fucked up

1LX 5P0U5E

i think for me, after 16+ years of reading and posting, i have really internalized a lot of the ILM / ILE discourse, to the point where i can generally predict what type of replies i will get if i post a thing or say a thing. so i'm content to sit back and not post, or maybe just to let other post it for me. because the other side of it is that a lot of what i have to say isn't that original anyway and not very interesting to many people. this is especially true on ILM. i like what i like and i have certain attitudes about music that i thnk are familiar to me and not that productive to endlessly rehash.

familiar to ILM i mean, not familiar to me

I feel that way sometimes, other times I hear some music that I should have known about and find out no one's ever mentioned it on ilm outside of voting for it in a year end poll!

What I like most about ILX is that it’s basically a better version of mid-90s Usenet, somewhat anonymous, pretty consistent group of intelligent/eloquent regulars with good discussions, no upvotes or other shit that makes discussions into popularity contests, no avatars, no emojis, no bots, but also no gigantic unmoderated flamewars. Most of the internet is an unadulterated shitstorm in terms of discussions, especially Twitter. I’m not going to maintain a second anonymous Facebook identity for online discussions, too much work.

I read daily, post occasionally. I’ve been here since 2001, probably will never leave, still don’t feel like I’m truly part of it all as a non-Anglospheric dude.

I don’t want to play the role of tonedeaf overearnest Scandinavian/Dutch/Swiss/German curiosity but I guess I am that guy once in a while.

What I like most about ILX is that it’s basically a better version of mid-90s Usenet

It was a direct descendant of 90s alt.music.alternative in a way.

I don’t want to play the role of tonedeaf overearnest Scandinavian/Dutch/Swiss/German curiosity but I guess I am that guy once in a while.

― Siegbran, Monday, February 26, 2018 7:33 PM (six minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/mobile/000/005/393/IKIFEEL.jpg

Geir said last year in the ilx now playing group that he was thinking of delurking on ilx to post again.

I still remember when he turned up after being an ilx bogeyman initially and tom had to post verifying it was really him when he did arrive

I like the low amount of beef on ILX these days bcz I don't have time to keep up with it. *

Strongly miss the volume of female posters generally, and specific voices like JBR/JBL and Jenny and c# who've exodused in recent years; especially JBL as it was openly due to toxicity rather than busy life changes. It's :-/ that the more congenial atmosphere these days is largely being enjoyed by middle-aged white str8 dudes.

deems: one had to stop browsing at work and switch to zing, found it harder, "now I'm over a year behind and can't catch up"; the other claimed to still post, but I haven't seen them do so for years. (tbh I see 2-6 ex-posters a week IRL who still read threads to some degree)

“w1fe” is my new favorite thing

* wrote this on zing and it wouldn't post and by the time I got to keyboard, where I was up to was lost in the fold. one thing doesn't change: ilx loves talking about itself.

imo the best approach instead of catching up is removing all bookmarks and starting fresh

If there were, say, a French equivalent to ILX (please point me in the right direction if you're aware of one, thx), I'd probably feel less inclined to spend time here. The Anglocentrism (in the broad sense) is kind of stifling sometimes, down to the overemphasis on ID politics.

ilx declined when I stopped lurking and started posting regularly

correlation is not causation :-)

the other claimed to still post, but I haven't seen them do so for years

verifiable through a Search on 'username' + 'posts' + 'most recent first'

Strongly miss the volume of female posters generally

yep. if there's anything "wrong" with ILX, it's this.

overemphasis on ID politics lol

Geir said last year in the ilx now playing group that he was thinking of delurking on ilx to post again.

I still remember when he turned up after being an ilx bogeyman initially and tom had to post verifying it was really him when he did arrive

― Algerian Goalkeeper (Odysseus), Monday, February 26, 2018 2:41 PM (six minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

omg, Geir? I'm happy to hear he's still out there loving music.

sorry carry on

roxy hasn't posted for a long time, she is missed.

overemphasis on ID politics lol

This is exactly what I'm talking about. For structural reasons, it's probably not as apparent if you live in the US/UK/Anglo Canada, etc.

surprised how many people here seem to know each other IRL. I spent a few hours with a fellow ILXor and it was a seriously surreal experience. especially since most of the conversation was about how the stars consistently kept aligning to integrate Ned Raggett into this guy's life

I found Geir active again on RYM recently and very nearly added him as a friend

geir still loves the same music he always did

you can join the group https://www.facebook.com/groups/ilxorsnowplaying/

personally I cannot imagine why there aren't more female posters

imo the best approach instead of catching up is removing all bookmarks and starting fresh

I believe it was more a general vibe than that the poster used bookmarks at all

verifiable through a Search on 'username' + 'posts' + 'most recent first'

I'm well aware, but search is not available on zing

why do people leave ILX for God?

(I had checked by the time I posted, and the last post for one username was March 2014, with the previous username stopping in November 2005, but I dunno if they had another more recently)

i only leave ILX for food

surprised how many people here seem to know each other IRL. I spent a few hours with a fellow ILXor and it was a seriously surreal experience. especially since most of the conversation was about how the stars consistently kept aligning to integrate Ned Raggett into this guy's life

― frogbs, Monday, February 26, 2018 1:51 PM (twelve minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol, was it gr80?

It was a direct descendant of 90s alt.music.alternative in a way.

It was indeed.

I spent a few hours with a fellow ILXor and it was a seriously surreal experience. especially since most of the conversation was about how the stars consistently kept aligning to integrate Ned Raggett into this guy's life

...I don't even know what to say to that.

And katherine OTM of course.

lucky guess

I'm kind of amazed sometimes how many people from ilx I've been fortunate to meet either by chance or design

then there's the near misses, like the realization I probably used to walk past the currently-screen-named JCLC in the grocery store all the time before I posted here

re: facebook diaspora - I am happy to return to an ad-free, grassrootsy, weird, non commercial environment

Facebook is a tool of the wicked, but we must do what we can with it since so many of us are trapped there

I still can't believe the one time years and years back when I was at LACMA visiting with a then-fairly-recently-arrived UK friend (non-ILX) and we were walking around in a courtyard and I heard a 'hello there' or the like right behind me and I turned around and it was gabbneb.

I don't even know what to say to that.

"my work is done" or something like that

I was going to ask if it was G too lol.

overemphasis on ID politics, or as we now call it in the USA, the totality of modern life.

xp to be fair he tells a very good tale of Ned

The weird thing is that gr80 has also now collectively met my entire immediate family aside from my mom, as well as meeting my girlfriend, and every time it's been outside of California.

yeah I know

tbh I'd double-check with your mom to make sure they haven't randomly met and you're merely unaware

x-post - lol!

I only really post intermittently and during polls (especially the metal poll which is always lovely). I start to get really depressed if I spend too long here, which is in part due to my own irrational paranoia but also has a lot to do with how quickly some posters seem to spring to a hostile response. I feel like this level of conflict is unprecedented...I mean, not on the internet of course, but I want ILX to be a haven from all of that. And the conflict is part of the fun, but not when it’s so frequent and really hurtfully personal.

Also it really upsets me how some of you speak to and about imago! Living with him, I think he is just really quite different to how he gets portrayed here sometimes... I know he’s part of creating that perception too of course, but I think the extent of the response is sometimes incongruous with what’s been said, just because it’s imago. Obviously all posters should be held accountable for bullshit or offensive things but the level of aggression is quite high where he is concerned.

Wait is this an LJ sock?

Hi tt!

Ban tange— no im sorry

Living with him, I think he is just really quite different to how he gets portrayed here sometimes... I know he’s part of creating that perception too of course,

imagine what he'd be like IRL by the time you met him if he hadn't been so relentlessly bullied by the sculptor's chisel here

I like imago and barely interact with him on ilm but I must guiltily admit when gr80 made a zine, I asked if I could be listed in the donors as "Ban LJ" and he wisely denied me

the more this place becomes a Twitter Annex the less i care

It's always been a decent aggregator though, now it's an aggregator aggregator.

ID politics killed ilx btw

I would say this is right-but-wrong - a lot of the rest of the web became either less boys-only, or far more so. ILX stayed more or less where it is, but leaking women. But ILX is rarely the only site that anyone goes to, so if other sites have better balances (and are aware of them) then so it goes.

Probably worth revisiting jbr's last posts here, tbh.

The Runaways - classic or dud?

are U a straight white male

I am still a fan of ILX, though.

I posted 17 or so years ago and left after a thread I started turned into some old fashioned meanness and subsequently lurked after. Current board seems less tough

Hi wins!

xps I am in many ways thankful for the grand work the bullying has done, but maybe now it can just be a meme (until the next time he casts a sweeping generalisation with certainty).

you're all pricks!

hey tt! not seen you post much outside of metal poll!

x-post - awww! I was just kidding. Fwiw the worst thing I've ever seen you post was the fish/chocolate thing. <3

worse than poppage?

it really has been just a meme for most of the last decade tt!

I think that's true for some posters but not for others

Most of my posts are sent internally but sometimes I post on the emo thread

I once saw real ILE people on the street and I was so amazed, like some fabric of reality unwound right there, I could not bring myself to make contact - how weird!

(You can see why ;_;)

x-post I honestly don't remember the origins or meaning of poppage (no, I don't want you to tell me) at this point!

The chocolate thing (cockles in red wine iirc?) was nightmarish tbh

Internal sending is an amazing Zen artform and I wish I'd been born with the ability tbh

re irl interactions i feel like if i meet a fatmantis i'll just https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CsyGe4F8CQ

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/771051280617791488/sKg0hPNI_400x400.jpg

I *just* wrapped up all of lunagate and obviously knew the surface story (found post below). The rest is super sad. That all really sucks.

boys = so easily fooled by big boobies

― Yerac, Tuesday, 16 October 2007

let's all start Hootsuite

TT, I can vouch for LJ being the princest among men, though I do feel nearly all on board here feel the same and it's "all in good fun". Until it stops being fun, I know I know, but ILX loves the lad dearly, believe <3

neverban luriqua jagger

Aaww that’s nice! I think I am overly sensitive and defensive. imago is mostly indifferent to comments in any case haha xp

luriqua was truly more than human

I bet he is. Insensitive bastard :D

You are in yr right to defend and b sensitive over the lad tho.

(you prob know he *hugely* helped me out recently w/ something and when ever I get back to London I will repay the good deed. love ot you both <3)

xp

I have no beef with LJ beyond his accursed youth. Must you taunt us so.

i'm 31 as of last week! flopson is the new 'damn u young' guy

luriqua came back quite recently for one post and it was so joyous

what? on what thread???

when i started posting here i was several years younger than LJ is now.

also LBI don't bet against our meeting being in Sint Annaparochie - I enjoy a good adventure. to be continued...

imago is mostly indifferent to comments in any case haha

Yes we can tell.

crutis was really young when he started.

Did we ever find out if it really was Aja posting or her mum pretending?