"Break up caused by meat! Break up caused by meat!" - The official TERRACE HOUSE thread

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With the new series 'Opening New Doors' just released to Netflix, it's time this beacon of Japanese reality television got its own home on ILX.

Post your screenshots, Ryota Yamasato quotes and heartbreak over Hansan here...

OMG. I forgot it was starting now. This and the British Bakeoff are the absolute best before bed shows to watch ever. Not a care in the world.

I love how handsy Yu and Torichan get while watching the show.

It's there! And who knows how many times the season will be extended this time? That alone is a phenomenon I've never encountered in TV before.

I hope Yu and Torichan are close outside the show too. Torichan is even dressed a bit like her in this first episode. Got to try and pace myself somehow...

I watched the first episode two months back (found it online). I may have to rewatch, I can barely remember. Controversial opinion. I don't understand why everyone liked Minori's sister. I was always meh on both of them.

The stuffed pandas from the first episode killed me.

I adored Minori on account of her apathy and anti-socialness and of course for writing 'coward' on the rice, which I think might be the most incredible way to attack someone I've ever seen. Her sister didn't amaze me like she seemed to a lot of people.

First thing I've learnt from this series: 'hot pot sergeant' appears to be a thing.

Konbanwa.

I'll try to catch an episode tonight. I'm glad it's back in Japan.

I wasn't crazy about Minori at first but she grew on me, especially for how she handled Natsumi. She really knew how to push her buttons but kind of played it off like it was a misunderstanding due to their personal differences and an example of how they should not have to change for others but be more accepting of their differences.

I wouldn't say her sister was amazing but she seemed down-to-earth, straight forward and likable. I don't really remember but I feel like maybe she said some good things about other cast mates, like what an overbearing jackass Tap was being?

I think the sister was also popular due to being something of an audience stand-in.

I say this as a huge TH stan, but if you can find a way to watch the original 2 year season ("Terrace House - Boys & Girls Next Door"), please do so as it is the best season and it's something like 90-95 eps.

This new season (which I'm watching ahead of the international release) has a HUGE plot twist around week 10. Must resist giving away spoilers!!!

Also... due to my wife's fandom I had a chance to chat with Mizuki (from Boys & Girls In The City) at her coffee shop in Omotesando, she's a huge NBA fan (GS Warriors) and makes an amazing latte.

Ugh, I really doubt that I will be able to find a version with english subtitles (for the original series) but I'll still look this weekend. I love Mizuki.

@Yerac this goes to ep55, more than halfway through the entire run:
https://terriblehouse.com/

... but oh shit! there's also the new season on there too with huge spoilers in the thumbnails... proceed with extreme caution!

OMG. Thank you! Sometimes I just wish I would get some non-threatening case of mono or pneumonia so I can lay in bed and watch all of these without interruption.

I literally only started watching it as a lark because I was living in Oahu for 5 months last year and was missing Hawaii. I've gotten so many people hooked. It's hard to convince some people though that the series in Japan locales are far superior.

Dang, jealous of your O'ahu residency... but yeah Aloha State is the worst season by far. I met Avian when she was a kid at her mom's shop lol.

First thing I've learnt from this series: 'hot pot sergeant' appears to be a thing.

Yes, two people have said it independently so far! Excellent phrase.

It's weird to watch Aloha State before other seasons. Like, they don't explain the premise of people being "pre-planned" to leave and new arrivals. I was so anti-Lauren at first because she bailed and was a model that rarely worked until I realized that having models on there is a characteristic of the show. I kind of feel like she was too American for the show though. I have dreams about Oahu every month. Besides the creeping anxiety of a NK attack, living there was the best. I could die there.

I don't know what this hot pot sergeant is. We had an electric wok growing up that we would do shabu shabu/sukiyaki once a week. Assuming it's that?

Oh, I finally found it while googling. That is a good phrase. I wish I had an electric wok.

Didn't a few people leave and get replaced before Lauren, though?
Mizuki was another of my favorites. I liked Lauren too. I guess there were very few members I disliked, and even then it wasn't really strong dislike.

I think only Uke left before her. I love her now for all her awkwardness. And she is the most model-y. I actively disliked Cheri. There were some that I found boring or just a bad fit but I didn't dislike them.

I think I was confused about people being labeled "models". But I watched Tokyo idols and was in Japan for 3 weeks and then it all made sense.

I think Naomi and Eric also left before Lauren.
Pushiness is one of my least favorite qualities in reality show personalities, so I was more put off by Anna (with her needling Avian about Yuya) and some of Taishi's moments, but I didn't dislike them. Some of the members seemed to not do much, or not much the producers wanted to show.
On Boys and Girls in the City, Tap and Natsumi bugged me, but they also had their more sympathetic and likable moments.

Aloha State's main problem was that the Japanese natives could only stay so long in Hawaii before their visas ran out so you were stuck with a bunch of unlikeable castings of hapas & hafus incessantly pumping their brand. The end of Aloha State (Cheri/Wez/Anna & Eric's returns) was such a complete slog of pointless drama...

...except the last dude with the hazel eyes who was barely there for a minute who took a trip to the big island to tour that hippy Kona coffee plantation, that was so awesome and I wish they had just done things like that the whole time.

The timing seemed off. Some of those people were barely there.

And I had totally forgotten about Naomi. Eric I never understood why he was cast. Too sunburnt and tired for living in Hawaii full time. Anna was just an interesting,smiley mess. Ugh, so many blah people on Aloha comparatively. (Wez LOL!) The only thing that saved it was the scenery, Guy, the hosts making fun of Guy and the unlikely pairing of Avian and Yuya (in that order).

I liked Natsumi, because she was kind of crazy/conflicted. Her being drunk kind of scared me...but only scared me if I was a japanese person.

Oh gah, i meant to say Anna was an UN-interesting, smiley mess. I felt a little bad for her at the end with Wez.

Something that isn't addressed enough: The panel makes this show and was the only reason I felt compelled to slog on with Aloha State. I have deep love for Tokui, You, Yama... I liked Tori & Baba more in the B&G Next Door/B&G In The City, seems like they're given a rough edit and less screen-time in the past two series.

Also: If you guys didn't know this, you can simultaneously watch the panel's LIVE COMMENTARY (almost like a director's cut) on the JP Netflix site and it's even more hilarious (sometimes the editors will cue back to it for the benefit of the folks who don't watch it that way). There's also tons of BTS clips on the TH Youtube channel (which is region locked so you need a VPN).

Natsumi was kinda crazy, she was a drinker but there are a ton of folks on TH who enjoyed alcohol without starting fights that had to be broken up by the production crew.

I kind of identified the most with Natsumi. Something about her inability to filter herself and how she instantly turns hostile when she feels like she's been slighted. That was the funnest stretch of the show.

I could relate so much to Minori's reaction to Natsumi. I hate being around that kind of person. Minori ended up handling it way better than I would have though.
Totally agree about the panel.

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The fact that one of the first points of drama in the new season is about whether a breakfast soup is too flavourless is perfect Terrace House.

In real life I would never be friends with Natsumi, but for tv she had a very strange combination of being early 20s scary, not subtle, slightly charming and too pretty to have to pull all that obvious shit while being Japanese! Her interactions with Minori were the only things to make me like Minori more. Ugh, I know why they can't but I really wish there was only one version of netflix. My version is bonkers. Some shows I can't get english subtitles and some all of a sudden switch overdubs when a season flips.

Those three!!!... were all kind of terrible in their own way, but better than most of Aloha.

what's the deal with people being models? A Japanese thing?

I don't fully understand it. A lot may be just weird reality show/unemployed/aspirational/attractive person labeling. But Japan has an idol culture that is unique and is tangential. Google it. I kind of hate what it represents but if it keeps lonely, insecure men from doing bad shit, great.

ah yes, ok. I heard about this idols thing.

Seeing Riko go through the process of it was interesting. It got very real at one point when we see her in tears after a photo session.

Wow, this thread took off while I was asleep!

I’m four episodes in to the new season so far and have a few predictions in the way of big twists, but I would be equally happy if it just turned out to be that Yuudai can finally make a flavoursome-enough mizutaki.

That picture upthread is a tableau I would want on my wall.

I figured they often have models in because a) people like watching attractive people on TV, and b) models are likely to benefit professionally from a show like this. But is there a hidden reason I’m missing? There are also a ton of people there ‘starting a brand’, which is usually snuck in the narrative around their third day of being there.

Albert R. Broccoli seems to have the inside scoop! So cool that you’ve actually met some of them haha. Also I had no idea producers got involved with a Natsumi fight!

I think it's also me being a jerk where I am stuck on western ideas of runway or editorial models. I was critical of Minori being a model and really wanted her to pick a more interesting thing to do.

I got the sense that Minori was more like a fashion model whereas Riko was an idol. Minori seemed to be doing mainly fashion shoots, while for Riko the fandom aspect was fundamental.

I don't want to get all Tyra here but it was having to rethink the models as ones doing catalogue, print ads or hostess type of work instead of runway/high fashion. But I don't read asian magazines so maybe they were high fashion? Riko made me sad. She seemed very smart and it all just ended poorly on the show.

Minori just got married to Keigo Uetake (a streetwear designer dude) over the holidays:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BfVYYRIBQ9A/ (keep swiping to see pics)

Riko was a gravure idol which is kind of like a "sexy-cute" bikini model, totally different uh... target market than a runway model. The exposure of the depth of the Riko/Hayato affair was one of the highlights of the Tokyo series imho. The editing around the dinner table catching their glances once the group let them know the jig was up was priceless!

Also I had no idea producers got involved with a Natsumi fight!

― tangenttangent, Wednesday, March 14, 2018 2:15 AM (nine hours ago)

Yeah, they mentioned either on the commentary or alluded to the panel discussion where the directors/editors made the call NOT to show the fight between Misaki and Natsumi because it could have negative effect on Natsumi's career. But yeah, they said it got pretty savage and that all the guys and crew had to get involved!

xpost Not talking about Riko being a model (sorry that was unclear) but all the other women, Minori, Natsumi, Lauren etc.

I enjoyed the discovery of the affair at the end but still was kind of sad. Hayato was shady shady. I liked how at the very beginning the other women thought he was gross.

Hayato seemed like a creep. I loved Ryota Yamasato's comment about him on his first episode.
I am curious about if any TH couples are still together.

That was a crazy twist. I remember after the yukata date having the feeling that there was something not right about how they were interacting.

Also Riko's Mom knew all along, so if you watch knowing that, it's super apparent and pretty funny. I think Hayato is not as terrible as people make him out to be, and if you follow along with the alumni, he's super popular with both all the guys & gals and apparently still a pretty good chef according to friends.

Minori does runway & print, Natsumi does TV & print, Lauren does tons of print work, she was all over on my last trip.

One edit about Lauren that didn't make it out was that she spent every summer in high school doing modeling (print) in Tokyo. I think her edit just made it seem like she had only done a foreign exchange semester abroad in Hiroshima.

The first series in Shonan (B&G Next Door) has some legit models, actors, musicians, talent, athletes & entertainers, much higher profile than any of the subsequent seasons.

third ep is emosh

the panel is so good. yokui & the other comedian guy (when the jokes aren't being lost in translation) are actually hilarious

When I first started watching TH Aloha for some reason I my netflix didn't have english subtitles available and I was trying to follow along in Spanish subtitles. So I always fast forwarded all of the panel parts. All of a sudden I got english subtitles and the panel was a revelation.

I find it quite creepy tbh.

This season is kind of crazy... A lot of weird tensions flying around and reactions that just seem off-kilter. I thought I had some decent predictions lined up but now I’m not so sure... Money’s on something dramatic happening with either Yuudai or Tsubasa though. My OWN money that is.

I find it quite creepy tbh

The whole show or the presenters? I’m sure either way it’s a fair comment in some regards.

Driving me crazy that I can't watch until this weekend (houseguest).

Always knew there was more to that Natsumi/Misaki fight. Misaki seemed terrified for a while afterwards until Byrnes arrived on the scene, aaww. It would be nice if they stayed together! Minori and her new husband look very sweet together.

That must be hard. I’ll try to keep spoilers to a minimum. I should really be writing an essay this week anyway...

My spouse (and houseguest) walked in and I was watching Greatest Homes or whatever that new show is called, and he saw the reflection in the window and started chastising me for watching TH without him. He just saw people sitting down in a living room and thought it was the new one.

Minori's and new husband look great/happy in the pics.

Do the producers of the show prod people to leave if they get boring or is it really strictly up to the person?

Arman never leaving should answer that. :D

(when the jokes aren't being lost in translation)

One of my favourite things is when the jokes and references are completely opaque. I like not getting the joke.

When they talk about Guy and the rice ball...it was amazing.

I loved Arman.

Hot Pot Sergeant!

I like the snowboarder, he's cool.

I need to orchestrate a situation where I can use 'hot pot sergeant' in normal conversation.

between this and Mind of a Chef, I want to eat Ramen every day.

what's the status of homosexuality in Japan? an equivalent show in the UK would definitely have homosexual or bisexual participants. to be honest I find the gay element in UK TV now to be too much, especially in soap operas and reality shows. I am actually interested by the lack of them, it's a relief.

i could just google that but i feel like i wouldn't be particularly enlightened.

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Perfectly countered.

I did like Arman eventually, he was just coasting by doing nothing significantly entertaining for months and didn't have a care in the world about it. It's always perfect when the presenters get up in arms about providing free accommodation for someone who isn't pulling their weight.

The thing about Arman's edit that was perhaps unfair to him was that when Arman was leaving LocoMart (the gardening center in Kamakura) the honcho said that he was the hardest working TH member who'd ever worked for him. The panel who'd been giving him a hard time took back all the things they said about him being a slacker as it recast him in a different light coming from a successful business leader (with good reason, the crew probably couldn't make the trip from HigashiGotanda to Kamakura every shift).

Arman has gone behind the camera and is doing a lot of work in video production in Hawaii and Japan. It's vague whether he's still with Martha or not.

Up to episode 7. I love that the disappointing mizutaki is still being brought up seven weeks later.

I think around ep7 it starts to get really pretty in Karuizawa. Any scene with Tsubasa's Dad is my favorite so far.

It looks like a nice area. I like the shots with Mt. Asama rising up in the background.

Tori-chan's dismay on the subject of ex-partners hooking up is amazing

I think Tori-chan looks really fresh this season with her no bangs and short hair. My spouse said she looked old! WTF!

Yuudai seems so much younger than anyone who has been on this show.

I think Tori-chan looks really fresh this season with her no bangs and short hair. My spouse said she looked old! WTF!

― Yerac, Saturday, March 17, 2018 4:24 PM (three hours ago)

your spouse OTM! I liked her look most in the first season.

here's a vid of her interviewing Tokyo Hotel in German:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFCVnlPDi8k

Yuudai seems to get younger and younger every episode.

watching both series simultaneously. arman has just joined in series 1. enjoying series 2 cast more, though yuudai is infuriating. ami was mean to him on their athletics course date tho

Yuudai should have been on Aloha State.

The most gripping and dramatic aspect to Terrace House is Tori-chan's face when the others are all being vulgar

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Meanwhile she's doing splatter movies with Sion Sono.

I like Tori-chan, but I do think she lays it on kind of thick sometimes.

We can't figure out what the deal is with Yuudai. I thought Ami was perfectly fine to him on the date. He's an oblivious 12 year old. Episode 8! And then have to wait for new episodes to drop. Will start the ones on Terrible House after. I love when Tori-chan puffs out her cheeks.

Seriously, what is up with Yuudai. I don't want to but I might have to do some research on reddit about his fuckery.

“I don’t like to talk while eating. I’m conversing with my taste buds.” - !!!

When he asks his ex to put his socks on for him...

I guess he did say up front that he expected to be treated like a puppy.

Tsubasa and Shion are pleasant and low-key. There's not much to say about them.

I see that there is some talk online of Shion and Tsubasa both being gay and just mutually agreed upon dating for the show. Regardless I love them both and would watch them just for pleasant hanging out.

yuudai’s ex’s response was classic. “no.”

His ex's and his friends' responses were like "damn, ice cold." Everyone is just done with him.

Where should I start with this?

Hahaha! VP. Too bad I am not in the city, we could watch this together. We love it so much.

VP, go chrono:
start with BGND on terriblehouse.com
then BGitC on regular netflix
then Aloha State
then BGOND

I'm finishing up Aloha State now, and it's getting good again with Chikako.

"What's an inspection kiss?" "That sounds like something from the Soviet Union."

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Paw Broon's got the toothache again.

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Uh. Wrong thread, obv.

who even knows

maybe he can talk some common sense into yuudai

Oh wow, I just read the summaries for season 2 epis of Opening New Doors. WINE!

The first 3 eps of S2 are on Terrible House, and you should definitely watch them, huge bombshell!

Yeh, that is what I was just reading. I was so confused for a second.

when should we expect them in europe?

would definitely recommend watching BGND before watching season 2 of OND

yuki getting swerved for costco was so painful

why do the panellists continually hold their hands up over their mouths ? mostly when laughing, but sometimes when speaking too. is it a modesty thing? or are they embarrassed by their teeth ? I thought it was just the women who do it but I've noticed yokui doing it too

Only the Tokyo panelists do, you'll notice the Kansai ones don't (Baba-chan & Tokui). It's a regional thing.

that's interesting. I thought yokui was from kansai? I thought I'd picked up on that when they were doing all the (very opaque) riffing on natsumi's accent

also why is tsubasa so lovely

Tokui does a lot of impressions of the team members, maybe that's why? He has a distinguishable Kyoto accent and Babachan has a thick Osaka accent. When they laugh, they show their tongue and inside of their mouth which most stereotypical Tokyo people think is uncivilized.

The new season Tsubasa and Taka-san have these crazy mountain accents and speak in dialect to each other that's pretty country but cool. I think the panel made fun of Taka and his bro's radio station where they speak almost exclusively in dialect.

thanks. all the kansai accent ribbing directed at natsumi in the first series was fully impenetrable to me (still absolutely hilarious for some reason) (I guess regional accent ribbing is universal, and there are archetypes across the world even if you don't know the specific specifics in question)

I've watched S02E10 now and don't really get the significance of the twist but I gather things might get /interesting/ now

Are y'all going to be talking about stuff that isn't on Netflix yet? Not sure whether to avoid the thread.

I don't think we should. as soon as it's up on netflix, it's fair game. sorry, I tried to keep my ref oblique (someone had already referred to it upthread as 'a twist')

So what was the deal with Cheri anyway? Was she just partying way too hard and flipped out?

I won't post any spoilers for the new season, but I can't make any promises about the earlier seasons!

Cheri slowly melted down into an alcoholic haze until she was confronted about a few things and then got incredibly defensive (and offensive to Mariko). Pretty immature and trashy for your typical TH member. She's also a Trump supporter and 2nd ammendment nut.

OMG, are you kidding me. I saw that after the show she still won Miss Ala Moana and was surprised. She kind of had hard drug bloat/paralysis going on with her face that I had no clue what was going on.

I always get jolted when I meet a Hawaiian Trump supporter (early last year). But the whole sovereignty/ religious thing it kind of made sense.

Yeah, her voice became more and more gravelly as well... Hopefully she detoxed.

I'm watching those exact Cheri episodes now, and they're interesting to watch knowing all of that. It seems like the alcohol problem is being constantly alluded to without ever being explicitly mentioned (Wez: "I think we all need to be more honest.") The confrontation with Mariko and Taishi seems to come out of nowhere. They're fighting about these secondary issues of who said what to whom, without ever getting at the real problem. Maybe they didn't feel they could do it on camera.

I feel like my japanese becomes so much better when I watch the show. And I only know maybe 10 japanese words.

rough when hansan leaves. the panel is amazing tho

I am watching the very first series. I like it but am very sad that there is no panel. And the music is jarring (Taylor Swift!)

SPOILER: All the original Japanese releases of Terrace House have Taylor Swift as the opening song. They chose to change the music to generic youtube pop for the international release.

things I have learned about japan from TH: japanese people are obsessed with goals and dreams; japanese people only eat hamburgers; japanese people are absolutely filthy XXX-rated

I heard the song used in the intro for US TH releases in the trailer for a new Netflix movie "Happy Anniversary." That was weird.

started watching B&GND yesterday and wow the first season is realy different

japanese people only eat hamburgers

Hamburg steak. Slightly different:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamburg_steak#Around_the_world

I started watching Boys and Girls in the City. It’s so awkward! Does it get less cringey?

I feel like every season starts out a little rough. Tap is super cringey.

Apologies, but can someone explain "breakup caused by meat!"? is it related to hamburg steak?

It's from an incident in Boys and Girls in the City. Uchi is given some expensive wagyu beef by one of his clients. His girlfriend Minori doesn't realize how important this is to him, and she and the other housemates cook it up without asking his permission. He gets very upset with her. The presenters thinks that breaking up over meat is the funniest thing ever.

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And it was a multi episode storyline. I was on Uchi's side although I don't know if they had rules for food in the house.

i agree; that is the funniest thing ever!

was fkn shady eating the meat tbf. uchi had every right to be raging

why has terrible house not uploaded any more new epis recently?

arman owns. I mean he’s a boring bastard but who isn’t.

We were surprised that the panel didn't think that the meat eating was a big deal.

I think Arman is great.

I watch one season of Terrace House and now I'm being solely recommended things in Japanese.

I put Ainori Love Wagon on my list. Hoping it will be as good as TH.

I like how The Cut is now doing TH episode reviews.

!! I started watching Ainori Love Wagon pretty much exactly as you posted this. I think it has different charms to Terrace House, but it's too early to say quite how.

https://i.imgur.com/oXz4wbw.jpg

i'm still watching part one but i feel like yuudai is being quite badly treated?

i think i don't like this show, actually. it's cruel. i don't understand it.

I find it very soothing! But I am not in love with the new season yet. Yuudai probably should not have been on the show.

^^^^

(It gets better!)

Ainori turns out to have been great! The Netflix season does all sorts of lovely (and weird) things, culminating in several jawdropping romances and a busload of drama! And there's a whole fifteen-minute informational segment on LGBT in Thailand - clearly the producers sticking it to stuffy old Japanese sexual politics culture

New episodes up. Can we talk about this yet? The vibe has totally changed for the better!

I just started the new ones.
Ami is kind of a drain, eh.
But I think I would find Seina overbearing.

I am also in the middle of watching the very first season of TH so it's weird to simultaneously see the 5 years apart Seina at the same time.

Two things I really laughed at. When Tsubasa? said "hide" when the new person showed up. (I don't know why this made me laugh). And when Seina is asked if she is interested in wine and she said it is her only interest. I kind of want that in a gif.

There aren't very many new episodes! I am about halfway through them.
Seina seems more low key than she did on her first episode and on her appearances on Boys and Girls in the City and Aloha State. The way they have talked about her make her seem like some kind of troublemaker, but that doesn't seem to be th case? And they even said she doesn't fight with other women, which is a relief. What was her deal on her other seasons and the movie?
Regarding Yuudai, I did feel kind of bad for him. He seemed so hapless and I can relate to his avoidant personality, But I don't think I can fault the others for how they were to him. He must have been so annoying and frustrating to deal with, and they probably thought he was just immature, inconsiderate, and oblivious. If there is more to it, I don't think they saw it. It's not really that clear what was going on with him.
Ami doesn't seem to have great social skills, and is maybe kind of oblivious herself, but it was a little obscured by Yuudai's issues. They probably just made each other worse.
I don't really get Tsubasa and Shion.

I am only 30 episodes into the first season ( think it goes on for like 80 epis and the movie) and Seina is totally fine and nice on the show. I think she is just very motivating I think Albert may know more.

Yuudai drove me crazy. I am so glad he's gone although I liked to be bewildered by his laziness and excuses (his conversations with his ex and friends were so cringeworthy.)

As RuPaul would say, Ami rests on being pretty and isn't willing to put in effort.

Yes, Ami seems to expect a lot from others while doing nothing herself.

Maybe Seina was right about the three days, because she has really grown on me. I found her appearances on the prior two seasons kind of off-putting, because she seemed like a busybody, grating, and kind of full of herself. Also, on her first episode here she was like a Real Housewife compared to these other people, but she has really toned it down.
Anyway, I am actually finding her defense of Ami convincing.

I admire how she told Tsubasa that women shouldn't think/talk about themselves that way, after Tsubasa was implying she wasn't worthy of Shion. I don't get Shion at all. I wonder what the gap is between what is filmed and what they watch on this season. They haven't shown them watching episodes of themselves yet?

Seina has a reputation for drinking lots of wine, being 「トレンドー」 (literally "trendy" but meaning playfully dramatic), drinking lots of wine, playing cupid (or "kewpie"), drinking lots of wine, passing along relationship intel, & drinking lots of wine. She's awesome, she's essentially the heart and soul of the TH franchise (can't say too much for fear of spoilers).

S3 of Opening New Doors gets really good, that's all I'm gonna say.

So when I was last in Tokyo I asked one of my colleagues if he watches TH and he said "Nah, that's for college girls."

Imagine my surprise when I check his IG this morning and saw he hosted a party last night where one of the guests was Shion Okamoto from TH Opening New Doors.

This new season of Terrace House is SO AWKWARD. What is going on??? ( I am halfway done with the episodes).

I just had to spoil myself. I don't think I could've dealt with a bad ending this year.

I need to catch up on ONH. I haven't even gotten to the second batch yet.

The cuteness almost killed me!

I am googling Terrace House drinking game because I know this has to exist.

On IG stories, someone asked Avian from Aloha State if she's watching THOND and she replied "yes, but just wait, i heard it's gonna get crazy!"

she is friends with one of the current cast-members of OND S4 so I'm sure she's getting some BTS intel.

I am streaming the new episodes now (since I finished the new season on netflix already). Again, the change of music is so jarring.

Embrace the Swiftness!

When it's all said and done, I think the biggest takeaway from TH for me will be watching someone make a soft scramble and being astounded that they squirted a couple of globs of Kewpie into the eggs. I do it all the time now and let me just tell you: it has made all the difference.

I can't watch the next part until imago is back. The suspense is too much! I really hope they put the original series up at some point too. I've looked around for one with subtitles but I don't think it exists.

The original series does exist but you need a VPN to access Netflix Japan and then use a lil hacking to replace the JP closed captioning file with a .dxfp overlay in EN from these guys: https://www.patreon.com/CostcoSubs

I need to start writing "Coward" in all the food I make for other people.

xp Haha aaw, that is way too complicated for me. The VPN bit is fine, but the rest of that is too tricksy. It's okay, I'll wait it out...

I've definitely threatened to make coward rice before! Will post here if I ever go through with it. Maybe someone needs to make me a coward rice for not making one.

We were watching old episodes on Terrible House (with subtitles). But it seems to have disappeared.

FujiTV (the original producers of TH, the Boys & Girls Next Door season) have very good lawyers, sadly.

Netflix only is hosting Boys & Girls for a limited time... actually I think already some of the earlier seasons of that show have expired... :-(

just got to the episode where the two guys have drinks with Tsubasa's dad a few days before the hockey final.... oh god so sad.

So, is Yui the best house member yet?

She's def. the third best of the current female members (Aya & Maya).

I just had to look her up because totally forgot. I am watching these starting Monday. Yui seemed really american in her overt innocent sado-masochism.

Maya? You're speaking from the future. Maya isn't on Netflix yet. Aaaagh

Although nice to know they're rid of Seina and that psychopath she's started dating

I want each episode to go on forever.

I realized that Yui annoys me because she reminds me a lot of myself when I was younger, right down to the hair and mannerisms.

Also I keep calling Shohei the same name as an old Japanese housemate we had for 2 years. And then I realized Shohei is a Kyushu guy too (like our housemate)!

Shion's dad played the long game by posting for 6 months on r/terracehouse before letting on who he is. He posted this today:

https://www.reddit.com/r/terracehouse/comments/a64gt8/just_look_who_my_son_brought_to_dinner/

omg. That is the sweetest thing ever. I am amazed about how much of a doubter I was about their relationship because they seriously the best.

and I obviously can't type. I am going back and re-reading the dad posts now.

The whole Ainsworth clan, from Sean's older brother's IG who is also a model:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BTRNovdFkPW/

omg at this

Lauren doing a vlog for Vogue Japan:

https://www.vogue.co.jp/celebrity/interview/VJ1027-My5Favorites-2018-12-ORIG_LaurenTsai/videos

Fun fact, an ilxor who used to live in Honolulu took me to that same hot pot restaurant and it was fantastic.

What beach was that in the video. Somewhere near Ko Olina? I didn't recognize it.

The new cast on TH...that app guy seems pretty scary.

I like how You got some attention for her Juul necklace. I was thinking about cutting a hole in the neck of my Taiwan t shirt like she does.

I thought it was somewhere near Hawai'i Kai... I'll ask around.

Watched all of the latest part in a couple of days, but now I'm not sure if it's coming back? They mentioned as much, but it ended so inconclusively...not that I was massively keen on the new housemates. I found myself longing for someone like Arman by the end.

I am glad the app guy drives everyone else crazy too. Such a creepster.

I was a little surprised how long the lag time is from when they are seeing episodes of themselves. In earlier seasons it felt like 2-3 weeks? Now it's about 2 months?

I like Tsubasa and Shion a lot, but the show got better and more interesting to me after they left.
I guess like You I got used to the app guy and no longer mind him.
The panel gave Tokui a hard time for being too excited and enthusiastic about Yui’s virginity, which is understandable, but I was kind of grossed out by their general reaction to her supposed innocence and cuteness. Then they held it against her when she didn’t live up to their imagined version of her.
The panel seemed pretty quick to label people and moments “scary” this year.

Didn't they think Natsumi, Cheri and Hayato were scary? In the first 5 minutes that the app guy was on screen I said "he's so going to stab someone in their sleep." I had to look up what a Junon boy was (lol).

Thank goodness Taka finally left. He was the most attractive, boring person ever on that show. His lady friend seems perfect for him.

not really challop: app guy and Yui are the only interesting housemates at the end of the recent Netflix run

they've brought in some right dross

also tt and I are watching the first season from the start. it's great! all it needs is a studio panel, although You mumbling semi-comatose from a taxi to nowhere has its charms too

Yeah, I only made it to when Torichan joins You in a studio finally. I need to pick it back up. I really love the panel. I like Yui a lot.

omg spoiler lol

i mean of course she was the next to join

Ha, Albert Broccoli spoiled me about that too because I was not feeling season 1 with You being in a car commercial for most of it.

I needed something to look forward to.

I assume too they are ending the current season because it seemed like a nightmare to have people commuting in to Tokyo all the time.

idk about Season One being bad - it's sort of amazing! i really don't think TH has been gifted a scenario as rich as failed firefighter and actual popstar's forbidden romance while avuncular older pair are the two actually getting down to it on the sly. even the two fifth wheels are good fun

Oh, I don't think it's bad. The music was a bit disconcerting and I kept waiting for the panel breaks so it was harder to get into a rhythm. I am somewhere in the mid teens in the episodes.

At least they got a better design of bedrooms down so they can film everyone at once now.

oh god the music lol

it is very weird having the entire show scored seemingly by a British indie kid

I really need to make an effort to get back into season 1 episodes this weekend.

Natsumi and Cheri seemed more aggressive to me, whereas the "scary" moments the current season seem more the result of social awkwardness and the apparent lack of social skills of a number of the members.
I was rooting for Taka though he made me cringe on a number of occasions.
I really like Yui.
I am not into watching these people skating, surfing, singing, so I might prefer the people who do "nothing" or whose jobs are not considered interesting/cool.
I would like to watch the first season but think I will miss the panel a lot.

there may be a panel at some point. The first season goes on for 2 years or something.

I posted it upthread but yes, Boys & Girls Next Door is by far the best season (followed closely by BGitC). It spans two years, two houses & two dozen housemates... and yes, there's a panel for the majority of it.

And then... once the series ends, it dovetails straight into a 2 hour film sequel (Closing Doors).

But back to Opening New Doors, I'm not sure if it's in the current international release or the next one, but during the opening recap Yamasato gets really OTT faux-angry at app-bro and it's probably my favorite moment of the entire series thus far.

It's not *that* crazy of a commute by bullet train... esp compared to the season 1 commute which was perhaps a little longer?

when do they ditch the british indie haha

xpost, didn't app guy ( I guess I should say Sota) say he commutes a little over 2 hours one way to work every day?

I have to say I was thrilled that the panel was begging for an eyeglass date because that is exactly how I felt.

The fact that they’re watching the episodes back a couple of days later in season 1 must have been seriously psychologically detrimental. Like in the new seasons they have a buffer of a few weeks to forget about and get over things and to review arguments from a humorous distance. The old way seems completely brutal in its immediacy.

It’s interesting to see Seina’s early missteps in modelling, knowing how successful she later becomes. Her fallibility makes her even more likeable.

Maybe I will try to watch the first season but I am kind of bad at watching tv so we'll see.
I love that people on Terrace House watch Terrace House and talk about being on Terrace House. I don't on like US reality shows when they can't mention the show even when it's clearly what they're really talking about.
I am curious about the status of some of the couples from other seasons, lke Taishi and Chikako.

I want to know too! That couple seemed doomed tbh. Albert is a fountain of knowledge for this kind of thing.

Taishi & Chikako are still together (now married!) & vlogging:

http://www.youtube.com/channel/UChJTlso_SVU_R-v6VaX995w/videos?shelf_id=1&view=0&sort=dd

For older seasons, Franky & Andrew (non-TH member) are married. Not sure about Han-san.

For newer seasons: Tsubasa & Shion and Seina & Noah.

Interesting. I was wondering how that would go, because Taishi seemed like he could be all about the fantasy and not the reality, or be one of those guys who gets super enthusiastic about a person/relationship, then abruptly becomes disillusioned and drops them. Maybe once he was secure in the relationship he relaxed, because on the show he seemed to put a lot of expectations on the person he was with, as to how she should react to things he did and so on...and just seemed kind of exhausting...well, good for them, I guess.

Married! I don't know why I am so surprised, he seemed pretty focused. 18ish years ago we had a Japanese housemate from Kyushu (mentioned before) for two years while he was doing a postdoc and he randomly had a school friend come visit him where we lived in nowhere PA. Completely normal, basic visit. He went back to Japan after he finished up and they were married within 3 months.

Oh man... just when you thought this season was gonna be dull! Cliffhanger endings! Infighting! Sex! BTS Secrets! Good stuff coming your way.

Also if you like baseball (probably no one on this thread), Kenta Maeda (LA Dodgers pitcher) was the guest panelist on today's episode and he said that his wife went to a Halloween party in LA and Taishi (Guilty Samuria) was there and she took a picture with him and sent it to Maeda (who was pitching in the world series!) and he checked his phone and got super excited lollll

Finally got to the full panel for season 1. It's funny how quickly they all just clicked together.

Ohhhhh, it starts getting amazing right around then. Dyki & Hana moved in ya?

Miwako is there already. I just read she is one of the most popular TH members (instagram followers).

Oh damn, you're pretty far in then.

Miwako is great, she has a cute off-kilter smile. If you remember guest panelist Saito from Aloha State, they did some ads for glico together. As most people were I imagine, I was surprised to see them together on a pasted-up street ad:

https://lineblog.me/kakeimiwako/archives/8356641.html

This season is ending on a crazy note! Gahhh...

For those without access...

Terrace House Boys x Girls Next Door series:

https://www17.dramacool9.io/drama-detail/terrace-house-boys-x-girls-next-door

Terrace House movie Closing Door (2015) download link:

https://tecchanhouse.wordpress.com/2018/10/02/closing-door-2015-480p/

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And so it ends, kind of differently than you'd think. Some good news ahead for the next season though, don't want to spoil it but it should be a step up after the past 2 seasons.

I am reading way too much about this Enon/Becky scandal right now.

Maeda! is so tall. I can't believe they didn't put out a huge ass armchair for him.

i started this show a couple months ago (Boys & Girls in the City, via netflix) and i watch ultra-slowly, so i'm only up to episode 15.

i will say that episode 14, the one where uchi and minori kiss for the first time, was possibly the finest half an hour of television i have ever seen. it was like nathan for you levels of awkwardness, only real, but sort of not real. unbelievable. i watched half of the episode with hands over my eyes.

Karl Malone, watch as many episodes as possible. I think it's a huge supplement to a westener's sense of manners.

<3 Maeda. Even drafted him on my ILX Fantasy team today!

<3 the story of his wife taking a selfie with Taishi & Chikako and sending it to him while he was playing in the World Series.

B&GitC is so good. Savor it.

I don't know how I feel about this season. Tsubasa/Shion and Seina were the MVPs, I don't think I will remember much else from it. I wish Masao had been on the upcoming season instead.

I was reading an interview with Lauren and didn't realize that they only film in the house a couple of hours a day. So weird.

I am a little obsessed with the white tracksuit with winged sleeves? that You wears near the end.

in this bleak world we need some TH gossip:

Tsubasa broke up with Shion:
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bvb9UhvBCK9/

so weird that Seina & Noah outlasted them.

also rumors that Taishi & Chikako are over.

!!! I was looking last week and thought I saw something about promise rings between Tsubasa and Shion! What does that instagram post say??? They seemed really weird on the last episode.

oh, f i see it on jezebel now.

The Jezebel translation misses some nuance, sp. that Tsubasa broke up with Shion (ie, her call, perhaps not mutual) but yeah, big surprise!

I am deliberating whether to text the news to my spouse or not. It's so silly but exactly the type of thing he should be made aware of.

I mean, this will be dominating the news cycle for the next few weeks...

first the mueller report, now this. it’s a cruel world, man.

Damn, that sucks. A bleak world gets bleaker

Apparently I am the first person on the Internet to work out that Depparin from Ainori Love Wagon looks like Mads Mikkelsen

At tonight's Dodgers game, Kenta Maeda's pre-at-bat music is "Slow Down" by Lights Follow, the international theme to Terrace House.

New Season (Terrace House: Tokyo 2019-2020) premieres a week from today.

...in Japan, probably late July for international audiences.

I wonder why they haven't done a place like Kyoto or Osaka?

Just too far to get the same people who would need to commute to Tokyo?

I think for this season they want to capture the energy of the upcoming Olympics.

I have to point out the whole franchise started in Shonan which is several large regions/municipalities away from Tokyo, but definitely commutable. Another thing is I think there has only been a few Osaka cast members (& nobody from Kyoto iirc).

I am still not over Tsubasa and Shion.

Maybe their arc is not over...

Me and imago are just catching up on the sixth part and omg. It’s a full-blown thriller at times.

Yui is the demonic antihero you can't help but root for

Keep watching, lol

Lauren's uncle is New England celeb chef Ming Tsai.

New season is kind of slow to start, feel like everyone is on eggshells after Karuizawa.

...until ep4, which is a real blast, the panel is on fire and the episode ends on some playful drunken dare/confession!

ALSO: Yama-chan has pulled a fast one on everyone, he just got married to actress Yu Aoi after a 2-month engagement:

https://www.sponichi.co.jp/entertainment/news/2019/06/05/gazo/20190605s00041000345000p.html

OH congrats to him! He is going to have to change his schtick now.

This damn show made me add a Chvrches song to a playlist... ugh.

There's some good old fashioned drama between the girls already. Nice fight, the panel said that it was the most intense fight yet but they are forgetting the last Tokyo season apparently!

Welp, episode 11 in the new season has a scene that you will never forget lol. i take it the new season is not available on intl netflix yet?

I see a placeholder on Netflix for it but no release date.

I think it is strange Yui and Aio are still together.

Now that Taishi & Chikako have called it quits (+ Frankie & her husband from BGND got divorced!), I think the only two on-screen couples still involved are the highly unlikely Yui/Aio & Seina/Noah from OND.

Someone who was doing some IG-stalking noticed that Ryo (hazel-eyed apparel guy from Aloha State) & Naomi are now an item.

Seina and Noah seemed the most complimentary of couples. I can see them together for awhile.

Do not underestimate Yui! She knows at least three forms of witchcraft

Some mad cute chicks on this show. I think minori’s sister is my favorite

Mamma mia, first non-asian cast member to join the show. Weebs everywhere rejoicin'

NO!

First 12 episodes on netflix up!

so glad the ages are much more spread out.

Seven episodes in, omg Ruka is both a total moron and a snake, I fucking despise him so much. Another flawless victory for Yamachan's OTMness

Oh my dayzzz Shohei I have something totes raaaandom to tAlK tO yoU AbOuT but bot until tomorrow hehehehehe!

*tomorrow*

yeah that girl you're trying to date? hehehe I faaancy her too!! never spoken to her! should I ask her out? I'm totally going to ask her out hehehehe wowzors!!!!2!7!!

SPOILER I guess eh too late it probably isn't even going to be anything tbh

Yamachan is an excellent judge of character. He is also looking great. Marriage agrees with him.

omg Shohei is an idiot too, this is the most frustrating season of anything ever

Yamachan marriage reveal was the biggest shock ever on TH! I always hoped that there was some kind of a secret connection between him and Torichan.

And yeah, Shohei appears to have difficulty accepting happiness for himself...

Do you guys get episode 11 yet?

**Scrolls up** yes you do! That was a doozy lol.

there are 12 episodes online. we just finished episode 5. SPICYSOL. I don't like this new theme song.

The one they're using in Japan is OMG THE FIRST NON TAYLOR SWIFT SONG, it's this instead:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRuKrxjvXyA

I think towards the end of this 12 ep chunk, one of the saddest saps of the TH franchise comes back (he doesn't even live in the house!) and just won't go away.... ugh.

Haha we haven't actually seen ep.11 yet, but I think I know who you're talking about. I've seen people really loving him though!

What is the reason for the different theme tunes? And why is the one we get always like some weird eurodance/emo thing (not that I'm complaining)?

International licensing. Its why there's a delay in the release in Japan vs the rest of world: editors scrub all the music out & replace it with generic youtube pop/rock.

the Japanese theme is much better.

Lauren Tsai is on Legion? She has very good eyeliner.

Is she? Good for her! She was such a well-rounded person.

Also omg re: sad sap mentioned above. He’s just showed up (again).

I'm on episode 16 and he's STILL HANGING AROUND....

bah, I am spoiling myself and looking who it is because I can only imagine it's one person.

Nooo not again! They need to bring in like Makun or someone to take him to the beach for surfing lessons.

The time they carved out to celebrate yamachan getting married is cute. It's kind of statistically odd? though that he is the first of the panel to marry.

aren't at least one of tokui and you divorced

It’s crazy that it would have happened after just two months! Especially with him working throughout that time. I wonder if he speaks about it much on his oft-referenced YouTube channel

Oh, maybe he's the only one to be currently married then. I see that You is divorced.

You is twice divorced.

We’re just heading in to the fabled 11th episode. I hope it’s a good one because these housemates are maddening so far! If you have to change your mind so many times, then it’s possible there could be a match for you in the world somewhere outside of these three people.

The only one that I so far think is fine is Kaori.

Yeah, she seems very much like someone you could easily be friends with.

I’m not totally sure which event in episode 11 is the big one, but for me the scene with Shohei was totally shocking in comparison with the usual flow of things in the house.

This season is giving me a lot of existential anxiety and feelings of regret in general so far haha

but for me the scene with Shohei was totally shocking in comparison with the usual flow of things in the house.

bingo!

Just finished ep16 and it was great. If you feel like the first 12 eps are dragging, just wait til ep 15 and you can feel the build happening.

i am surprised they showed this pink film that shohei was cast in.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kptxrrqbdwc

Panelist Tokui Yoshimi recently admitted to a scandal (tax evasion, roughly $1M USD) and via his agency has announced he is suspending all entertainment appearances indefinitely. Looks like he will leave (temporarily or permanent?) from TH starting around episode 23... ep 22 just aired today in Japan.

He is an undeniable face/voice/mood of Terrace House, so I'm not sure who they will get to replace him, but it should be a reasonable talent given the rising international popularity of the show.

whoaaaa... so much panelist drama this season.

they should have kept him, would add to the sketchy old man vibe lol

Which one is he - the guy with glasses? Or the other one?

how dare you impugn yamachan

He is the younger woman who is half austrian.

I stumbled upon the IG of the person responsible for the English subs for TH:

https://www.instagram.com/hafudozen/

Rui should take over the open spot on TH. OMG.

Whereabouts are you? The current cast is insane... it gets crazier and crazier.

Netflix just released episodes 13-24. I think we got up to episode 17-18 last night.

I didn't get Shohei. I imagined he was an escort or something as a side gig since they were always so weird about him.

He was indeed a trip, we viewers got kind of peek behind the curtain when he & Kaori let down their guard/kayfabe and Kaori admitted she could see how it could be perceived that she was engaged to her agent and that Shohei was uncommitted but was sleeping around a lot.

Ah, another basketball player (Ryo) that gets an omg. So far he seems to be as competent and attractive level as Hansan.

Ryo is a gem. Have you heard him speaking English yet?

the Netflix translations end on a cliffhanger to the best romance TH has seen in a long time (please don't spoil!) - it has been destroying me! i think it should be okay to say that Haruka's journey from weird date-jacking misanthrope to the giddy, tongue-tied beneficent lovestruck creature she is now is an amazing journey - she definitely stands in the running for all-time Most Improved Housemate

and as for her prince...

but

argh cliffhanger

say nothing

and yeah fun stuff is bubbling up with the others

Has he spoken a lot of english on the show? xpost

Ruka watching himself on tv was brutal.

a bit funny though

There's an episode where there is so much English spoken (by 3-4 members) that the subs are only present 50% of the time. Might be after the cliffhanger though... It's getting pretty great post where the international chunk stops...

Today's episode was lowkey amazing, the person you think is least likely to be an incredibly kind/empathetic/bearer of excellent advice steals the show.

I was at a kids bday party this weekend. My wife's friend's older sister mentioned to my wife that her 20 year old daughter (a model, now living in Tokyo) is dating someone who is/was a cast member from Terrace House. That is all the information that she was able to get from her, this person doesn't know anything about the show other than very surface details. Will try to follow up with more info at a later date.

I was just looking at the vrbo for the house in o'ahu.

https://www.vrbo.com/1221661

Forgive the thread spam, but I wanted to note that this show's 2019 season is nominated in the 2019 ILX TV poll:

ILX's Best Television of 2019 Poll / VOTING AND CAMPAIGNING THREAD / Voting Ends January 31

If you like this show and you'd like to see it have a good showing in the poll (running in February) all you need to do is submit a ballot including it and your other favorites (4 minimum, 25 maximum, organized by your favorite to least favorite) to forksclovetofu at gmail by end of day today. It'll take five minutes; get to it!

― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, January 31, 2020 6:29 AM (two hours ago)

voted!

Today's episode was lowkey amazing, the person you think is least likely to be an incredibly kind/empathetic/bearer of excellent advice steals the show.

― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Monday, December 30, 2019 10:14 PM (one month ago)

This person is still doling out really amazing advice! She's like the female Han-san.

i was just looking up how many episodes there are now and just slightly spoiled myself by a pic of one of the new castmates who was very noticeable.

Her entrance is pretty amazing, a real roller coaster in <60 seconds.

Broken egg thread reminding me of Ruka’s cracking eggs directly into a pan of boiling pasta. <3

Excited for next part of Terrace House to land. Thrilled for TH thread’s members representing in the TV poll too.

yeah, I am always amazed by people who cook like they have never seen the act of cooking before, which...might be true.

voted for this obv but let it be known I put Ainori above it even though they both get 10 points

I want to go to a japanese costco so badly.

Not as a date though ;)

dream date!

Utterly addicted to this show after a couple friends recommended it. My wife and I blew through the Tokyo episodes on NF in less than a week and had to find the newest ones as there's no way I could live with that cliffhanger for two months. I think part 3 has probably been the most interesting of this season so far, and I love the advice-giving castmate mentioned above

What do you all recommend for the next season of TH to watch? I imagine this was probably discussed before but I'm a little scared to read spoilers of prev seasons

Start at the beginning (which is a total hassle because it's not on NF incl. Japan) but it is not only the best season but the panel constantly refers back to the original series. There's also a 2 hour film "Closing Door" that takes place immediately after season 1 ends which is pretty good. But yeah chronological is a good start. In my opinion this current series is the best of the past 3. I'd rank them:

BGND + Closing Door
BGiTC
Tokyo 19-20
OND
AS

ugh, I STILL have not finished the original TH. It's hard to pick it back up. Netflix needs to purchase it.

Ok I'll look for that, thanks. I don't know if this is common among TH fans but we started skipping the panel segments after 6 episodes or so. It was a combo of the panel making a bunch of references to prev seasons we didn't understand + we became impatient to get back to the action + we occasionally found the panel boring. But I'm regretting that a little (especially after one moment this season where a castmate is affected by the panel's thoughts when that castmate watches the show) and I'll probably go back and rewatch their thoughts on key moments

when i first started watching (I started with Aloha State) I was skipping the panel because I didn't get them. But seriously...they are probably the best part of the show. Start watching tham all.

Yeah as Carey says: once you realize the panel is the best part of the show you will regret that later. Plus a lot of alumni show up (and rejoin as cast, some several times!)

And not to say the current season is "bad" necessarily, it's just that TH has become a huge vehicle for the castmembers so there is a lot of kayfabe going on (you learn a lot about this towards the end of BGitC), whereas in BGND (my abs. fave), the vibe/action is much more pure.

The degree of kayfabe (I had to look this word up, btw - useful word) in the show is another thing I am very curious about. There was a moment in a episode where a character outside the house was surprised at hearing some news, but then, there was a camera set up so obviously they knew something was going on. There's some other small important moments in the house that are caught on camera and I have to wonder if it's serendipitous or whether anything is restaged. Overall, the producers do a good job of making things seem real/natural. But again, don't really want to go looking for articles that reveal the nuts and bolts and then spoil earlier stuff for myself!

I did not know this word either. Was it Lauren Tsai that talked about how only a couple of hours were filmed each day?

That wouldn't surprise me. Seems almost all recordings in the house are done in the morning or at night, when everyone is around. And the cameras sometimes track people as they move inside the house so a director/crew must be working live at those times? I imagine no matter how "real" this show is, it must be a nightmare to film and edit

Assuming this thread can act as a catch-all for Japanese reality television, it seems right to announce here that the new Ainori Love Wagon: African Journey is now up on Netflix! We watched most of it elsewhere - just three episodes remain. It is as harrowing and compelling as ever.

JFC that was the most harrowing episode ever. There's no way the rest of the house will be the same from here on out.

...worse than the Cheri blow-up in Aloha State, worse than the Misaki-Natsumi fight in BGitC, with just some added dread & anxiety & just sheer cringe.

I haven't seen the last couple episodes of the Tokyo season, but I did want to thank you Al for recommending the BGND season, which was indeed hard to find but has been a godsend in these stressful times. We watched about 5 episodes a night, finishing with Closing Door yesterday, and it blows the Tokyo season away. Just seems a matter of good fortune/good casting that several of the initial group end up with such strong connections with each other, that it set the tone for the house the whole series. I think it's evidenced by the fact that former cast members visit back a lot - their bonds seem much stronger than the friendships in the newest season. Of course, it was also a much longer period of time. Tecchan's journey in particular was also really great to watch

:-)

Yikes, yes that was an intense episode. And not between the characters I was expecting

Vinnie, you will be happy you binged BGND before today's episode... surprisingly loving, wholesome and touching tribute from seemingly out of nowhere. Washed the nasty taste of last week's episode away.

ohh, i think we get the new section tomorrow.

I feel very remiss that I never finished the first series.

I'm thinking of watching it again!

Finish it Yerac! I think some of the best moments happen near the end. Perfect for these times

it's so hard streaming/downloading it sometimes. we forget about it. I keep hoping they get it on netflix to make it easy. I have no clue where I am in it. i probably just have to look back in this thread to figure it out because we never ended up picking it back up.

uh.. Uke seems to have gone on a regiment after the last series of episodes.

eden kai.

Agree that it was really difficult to find the last few episodes of the first season, but we managed in the end. Tecchan was one of the all-time housemates.

New season part up, hooray! I have no idea if the allusions ARB is making will reveal themselves in this part or next? It showed up as a next play after finishing Sion Sono's 'Forest of Love', which was...ominous?

Well especially as the main character looked a bit like Tokui, who has *dramatic music* mysteriously vanished! ;)

Episode 38 is the one that was very dark and super negative. Episode 39 aired yesterday and was much better. The new housemate is a throwback (in many ways) to the original vibe of BGND.

The stuff we're mentioning will be part 4, but part 3 was very engrossing!

Was the new housemate in 39 ever featured incidentally in a previous season? Seems like he might have been, given his ties to previous cast. Yes, the tribute in the last ep was nice. I hadn't even known he died until I started looking up the BGND cast to see what they're doing now. Seems like Oji had the highest-profile career of the bunch!

Also, I noticed that a couple housemates in the last episode wore masks inside without mentioning being sick and I'm wondering if we're running into when they would have been aware of COVID...

just reached Kai's stand-up show, and tbh, if anything in a later episode is more harrowing than that, then it should probably be taken off Netflix for the common good

in my post above, i was referencing eden kai's current instagram. he looks different.

awww Ruka had such a good ending.

we have reached Kai's second stand-up and I want him kicked off the show. I want Yamachan to personally haul him out of Terrace House by the collar and chuck his belongings out of the window after him

the men in the house right now (ep 35) are a weird creep, the worst fucking comedian in history and some pathetic dweeb who's probably also a creep. get rid of them all and bring back peppe or just find someone to love hana ;_; ffs

ah OK fine I guess I approve

but your stand-up, it has to go

ok, i just realize there is a guy named Kai and not just Eden Kai. Only past 3 episodes of the new batch.

it was awesome how fast yamachan ID'd Tupas.

Prepare yourself for a stand-up routine you won't forget (x2)

oh just wait... can't say anymore...

We are forging ahead via Facebook links

Yes, join us on the dark side, imago

OK fuck I don't know how episode 38 could even be more harrowing than episode 37 but holy shit these are some dark, dark men, get rid omg

I did have a moment like you while watching 37 where I realized how terrible the guys are. I guess we haven't seen much of the third guy yet

Dear God, what a nightmare of a human being. A red-flavoured milkshake nightmare

Terrace House has suspended filming...noooooooo.

and how has no one told Kai that he should not be a comedian? I don't even know what that was.

how many episodes did it get up to before everything was suspended?

kai was obviously always an idiot stoner wastrel who should never have gotten through vetting

40 episodes.

And Ryo totally had a gf outside of the house right?

you sir, are no Hansan.

They've filmed at least a month more, based on people who saw the cast still filming scenes outside the house in mid-March, but I guess we won't see it. I expect this season will not continue even after they can film again. Shame, because I liked the direction things were going in episode 40

I want to discuss this conspiracy about Ryo and Emika but maybe it's addressed in the next four episodes that I need to watch.

TH conference call backgrounds anyone?

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Good news, the broadcasting of the 4 shelved pre-COVID19 episodes from the current 8-episode block will resume today through June 2nd.

Shacho... lol @ this guy.

"Showtime...!"

Stardom fans,

We are very sorry to report that our Hana Kimura has passed away.

Please be respectful and allow some time for things to process, and keep your thoughts and prayers with her family and friends.

We appreciate your support during this difficult time.

— We Are Stardom (@we_are_stardom) May 23, 2020

unbelievably awful news. heartbreaking

goddamn

reading into this, i’m actually a little taken back to find out that she received a wave of hate online. i’m partial to wrestling but she was one of my faves.

rip

i wonder if they even show the last two eps now...

Wow that's horrible. I know she takes a lot of shit online from TH fans, and I didn't really understand why. Very sad that it got to this point. I'm also wondering if they should just not show the last two episodes now

Fuck, that is so terrible and unbelievable.

yes :(

it seems like a lot of people hated her for her fight with Kai, which is...astonishing to me

apparently Kai had 'stans'

I'm not going to post precisely what I want to post because I'd be doing exactly what they did in the other direction, and I don't think Kai is in a particularly happy or secure place himself, but it really doesn't surprise me that (given they existed, which is itself fairly shocking to me) his fans, taking into account his comedic style, would have been viciously toxic

oh, this is horrible.

Welp...

JFC that was the most harrowing episode ever. There's no way the rest of the house will be the same from here on out.

― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Monday, March 30, 2020 8:50 PM (one month ago)

I just can't see the series going on from this, the whole format, the whole loss of innocence, the whole kayfabe/reality balance which was just delicate enough to begin with, now collapsing in today's social media dominated society.

One thing that gives me a little comfort is the Another Terrace (Behind The Scenes) clips from that episode where her housemates were trying to help Hana through her anger. It left me with a little more hope.

But yeah, I just can't see how the show could ever recover from this. Gah. RIP Hana.

well, the show was about to wrap for an undetermined amount of time anyway...

re: kai stans - if i were to guess, there’s probably a healthy bit of toxic guys that didn’t like a strong, forceful woman in the mix too

this is all so sad

Yeah, sorry for not being clear, I mean like the entirety of the Terrace House franchise will not be able to recover from this.

If you compare the Hana x Kai drama to an early conflict: Misaki & Natsumi in BGitC. It was revealed that the producers/editors made a conscious decision to edit their fight off the show, because it was so ugly and it could possibly have an effect on both talent's careers.

But then Aloha State happened which led to the combination of Cheri/Wez/Taishi that the producers/editors allowed us to view pure toxicity.

But the Kai x Hana episode was just soooo terrible on all sides, just a bitter stain that would be unlikely to wash away. What was once marketed as a boring, innocent, or however else the show was targeted to the West... that show is long gone.

Oh well, I strongly recommend people hunting down BGND, I feel like that was the pure essence of the franchise, where things were less contrived.

Without having seen the other seasons except BGND, I agree this casts doubt on the premise of the show being a good idea

Apparently Cheri is full-on QAnon, probably not a huge surprise but she's off the rails.

this came recommended as "for people who like terrace house" and ambient viewing is not my jam but maybe y'all will dig it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCEXsrhfY6a

try that again:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=videos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSmXQUHZJJw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nR0UTupTnEE

(bulk from reddit with my tweaks):

N: I wanted to return the two of us to Karuizawa where you and I met two years ago. Since then, through good times and bad, deep down I could tell I want us to be together forever. Through all the times we've shared I have felt sadness and love, but my feelings have not changed. I want us to be together forever. In the place we met, where the feelings began, I asked you here. If you will, please marry me.

... ... ...

S: What's this?

N: Did you hear me?

S: "Marry me?"!

N: Your finger... (Puts ring on)

S: Really? "Marry me?"!

N: Please.

S: (looking at ring) What's this? Is it real?

N: (laughs) It's real!

S: Really?

N: From now on, let's enjoy lots of happiness.

S: Are you sure?

N: Of course

S: I am quite an old lady...

N: Where do we go from here?

S: We're getting married aren't we?!

N: We're getting married!

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/terrace-house-seina-shimabukuro-noah-ishikura-expecting-first-child-.html

Oops- https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/terrace-house-seina-shimabukuro-noah-ishikura-expecting-first-child-033617058.html

Something good came of all this, at least

Watching former guest panelist Rui Hachimura be a fixture in the NBA playoffs going on right now, leading to my DiCaprio-pointing-at-TV moment:

https://i.imgur.com/6jita34.jpg