THE WORST SINGLES OF THE 90s

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so, about a month ago, tom and i came up with a list of the worst singles of the 90s. i think it pretty well speaks for itself. the only problem is that it's missing 14 entries. so here's where you can list them. the worst will be included in the final 100. THIS LIST IS FINAL. NO WHINING. i also need 7-8 people to help out with writing about 10 or so of these fat, steaming turds for an eventual FT piece. so get in touch if you can stomach it.

jess (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 2 November 2002 06:14 (twenty-one years ago) link

here they are:

1. 4 non blondes “what’s up?”
2. red hot chilli peppers “under the bridge”
3. billy joel “we didn’t start the fire”
4. elton john “candle in the wind 97”
5. whitney houston “I will always love you”
6. van halen “right now”
7. oasis, “champagne supernova”
8. smashing pumpkins “tonight tonight”
9. celine dion “my heart will go on (theme from titanic)”
10. crash test dummies “mmm mmm mmm mmm”
11. rem, “radio song”
12. baz luhrman “everybody’s free (to wear sunscreen)”
13. deep blue something “breakfast at tiffanys”
14. spin doctors “two princes”
15. bryan adams “everything I do (I do it for you)”
16. joan osborne “one of us”
17. alanis morrisette “ironic”
18. lou bega “mambo no. 5”
19. cranberries “zombie”
20. u2 “discotheque”
21. live, “lightning crashes”
22. dave matthews band “what would you say?”
23. hootie, “let her cry”
24. mr. big “to be with you”
25. all4one “I swear”
26. snow “informer”
27. shawn mullins “lullaby”
28. billy ray cyrus “achy breaky heart”
29. los del rio “Macarena”
30. barenaked ladies “one week”
31. digable planets “rebirth of slick”
32. Madonna “you must love me”
33. the lemonheads, “mrs. robinson”
34. tortoise, “djed”
35. goldie & noel gallagher
36. googoo dolls “iris”
37. lisa loeb “stay”
38. jill sobule “I kissed a girl”
39. color me badd “I adore mi amore”
40. jeff buckley, “last goodbye”
41. pearl jam “Jeremy”
42. michael jackson “black or white”
43. meredith brooks “bitch”
44. ugly kid Joe, “everything about you”
45. jamiroquai “virtual insanity”
46. genesis “I can’t dance”
47. urge overkill “girl, you’ll be a woman soon”
48. tupac “dear mama”
49. greenday “time of your life”
50. chumbawamba “tub thumping”
51. extreme “more than words”
52. silk “freak me”
53. sublime “santeria”
54. verve pipe “freshmen”
55. scatman john “the scatman”
56. us3 “cantaloop”
57. counting crowes “round here”
58. eels “mr. e’s beautiful blues”
59. beastie boys “bodymovin (fatboy slim remix)”
60. Aerosmith “ I don’t want to miss a thing”
61. arrested development “mr wendel”
62. the heights, “how do you talk to an angel”
63. verve, “the drugs won’t work”
64. rednex “cotton eye Joe”
65. toad the wet sprocket “all I want”
66. soundgarden, “black hole sun”
67. adam ant, whatever that horrid fucking comeback single was
68. fugees “no woman, no cry”
69. marcy playground “sex and candy”
70. offspring “keep em separated”
71. master p “make em say ungh”
72. jon spencer blues explosion, “talk about the blues”
73. santana feat. rob thomas “smooth”
74. vanessa williams “save the best for last”
75. bad religion – “21st century digital boy”
76. marilyn manson “sweet dreams (are made of this)”
77. the wallflowers “one headlight”
78. radiohead “creep”
79. body count “cop killer”
80. depeche mode “I feel you”
81. the toadies “possum kingdom”
82. mc hammer “2 legit 2 quit”
83. weezer “buddy holly”
84. ll cool j “doin it”
85. no doubt “just a girl”
86. dr. dre “been there, done that”

jess (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 2 November 2002 06:15 (twenty-one years ago) link

I'm in, etc.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 2 November 2002 06:16 (twenty-one years ago) link

(this list also features input from maura, ned, mitch, and fred.)

jess (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 2 November 2002 06:17 (twenty-one years ago) link

i'll write about these but i hafta get more drunk first

geeta (geeta), Saturday, 2 November 2002 06:17 (twenty-one years ago) link

uh no thanks

jess (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 2 November 2002 06:22 (twenty-one years ago) link

I'd be more than happy to volunteer my services, even though I could take offense re: a few of the choices. (As if anyone gives a shit.)

David R. (popshots75`), Saturday, 2 November 2002 06:24 (twenty-one years ago) link

OK, if I can help

* The Farm "Groovy Train"
* Atari Teenage Riot "Atari Teenage Riot"
* Cher "Believe"
* L.A. Style "James Brown is Dead"
* Blind Melon "No Rain"
* Bush "Glycerine"
* the Mighty Mighty Bosstones "Knock on Wood"
* Gin Blossoms "Hey Jealousy"
* Terence Trent D'arby "wishing well"
* Public Enemy "911 is a Joke"
* Duran Duran "Come Undone"

more soon

donut bitch (donut), Saturday, 2 November 2002 06:38 (twenty-one years ago) link

eat a dick jess!!

geeta (geeta), Saturday, 2 November 2002 06:42 (twenty-one years ago) link

* Aerosmith "Sweet Surrender"
* Flaming Lips "She Don't Use Jelly"
* Stone Roses "One Love"
* Tag Team "Whoomp, there it is"

donut bitch (donut), Saturday, 2 November 2002 06:50 (twenty-one years ago) link

A few artists seem to have conviently slipped the net. Take your pick of singles from this lot.

Mariah Carey
Paula Abdul
MC Hammer
Vanilla Ice
Steps
Back StreetBoys
Five
Hanson
Arrested Development
Marky Mark
Gin Blossoms
Shaquille O'Neal
Will Smith

selective memory, Saturday, 2 November 2002 07:13 (twenty-one years ago) link

MEATLOAF and SHAGGY are missing

minna (minna), Saturday, 2 November 2002 07:23 (twenty-one years ago) link

i could also tell you some comedy australian ones but they don't even really aspire to be the worst

minna (minna), Saturday, 2 November 2002 07:24 (twenty-one years ago) link

sorry I see MC HAmmer made it.I forgot Take That as well..actually one you might actually seriously consider is Stiltskin-Inside. Yuk.

Kiwi, Saturday, 2 November 2002 07:24 (twenty-one years ago) link

i tried to get them to unvote for 'buddy holly', i did! and my eve6 recommendation didn't make the cut, huh?

mitch lastnamewithheld (mitchlnw), Saturday, 2 November 2002 08:51 (twenty-one years ago) link

Man. "Overplayed singles" maybe but I would totally listen to a radio station with most of these in occasional rotation. "Santaria" popped into my head unbidden the other day. "Under The Bridge" was my first kiss. "Tonight, Tonight" is pure gold. The Vanessa Williams is one of my favorite songs ever.

You probably hate things that sample "Broken Wings" too.

Jess, do you hate emotion?

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Saturday, 2 November 2002 09:04 (twenty-one years ago) link

i think it pretty well speaks for itself.

It sure does.
Having a good read through this list, there are some great songs there. I knew the indie guilt thing is powerful but I never realised it was so destructive. You guys have had a shocka. I could give you 10,000 singles from the 1990's worse than the ones you have listed. No doubt I "just dont get it" but this is popism gone mad.

Kiwi, Saturday, 2 November 2002 09:47 (twenty-one years ago) link

"Tonight Tonight" is apalling. Some of these records are OK but those are the chances you take. Did we really pick "Radio Song" over "Everybody Hurts"?

Tom (Groke), Saturday, 2 November 2002 09:52 (twenty-one years ago) link

What is apalling about it? Best songs on the list: Cantaloop, Iris, Rebirth of Slick.

bnw (bnw), Saturday, 2 November 2002 09:57 (twenty-one years ago) link

What's with "Girl, You'll Be A Woman Soon" being on the list? Oh, now I see -- IT'S AN IRONIC COVER AND IT WAS IN PULP FICTION. Oh the horror.

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Saturday, 2 November 2002 10:10 (twenty-one years ago) link

His voice mostly. I can't really remember anything else about the song, though I've heard it several times. It just makes me think of some unpleasant slimy thing flapping and wheedling at me ineffectually. The Smashing Pumpkins disgust me.

JBR - I've never seen Pulp Fiction so have no beef with it either way. Obviously had it not been for the film fewer people would have heard Urge Overkill's laboured version. If the list had extended to the 00s then Louise's cover of "Stuck In The Middle With You" could have been included.

Tom (Groke), Saturday, 2 November 2002 10:19 (twenty-one years ago) link

Having looked over the list there are only 2 I think are actually good, though there are loads I don't know. I don't want to write about any of them, though. I tried once writing something about "Mr E's Beautiful Blues" and just couldn't find the words, it was too horrible. If I tried writing about some of these I'd get an ulcer.

Tom (Groke), Saturday, 2 November 2002 10:24 (twenty-one years ago) link

You've missed out

"A Little Time" Beautiful South
"Cats In The Cradle" Ugly Kid Joe
"A Change (Will Do You Good)" Sheryl Crow

and, of course, "Runaway Train" Soul Asylum

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Saturday, 2 November 2002 10:35 (twenty-one years ago) link

Tom sorry I thought the list is to find the worst singles of the 1990's not the worst singles of rock groups you hate plus a few token pop singles you cannot ignore.
"Mr E's Beautiful Blues"... I thought this was from '00 anyway?

Kiwi, Saturday, 2 November 2002 10:39 (twenty-one years ago) link

"Mr E's Beautiful Blues"... I thought this was from '00 anyway?

It was 2000, as it was my single of 2000...

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Saturday, 2 November 2002 10:42 (twenty-one years ago) link

I'm fairly sure it's '99 Kiwi. I don't understand the rest of your post - if I hated rock groups more than anything else in the 90s it stands to reason most of my list (not that this is - I contributed about 20-25% of it) would be singles by them. Your list would be different, good for you.

Dom, fine choices all except the Sheryl which is great! Actually I don't remember the UKJ one and "Runaway Train" has some kind of merit maybe, I can't remember.

Tom (Groke), Saturday, 2 November 2002 10:44 (twenty-one years ago) link

wow--no Collective Soul at all? I'd've thought "Shine" would be a shoo-in for this.

M Matos (M Matos), Saturday, 2 November 2002 10:53 (twenty-one years ago) link

I know its just your personal choice and I sound a bit excited in my protests but your list reads like a checklist of fun times and places in my mind of the90's ;).As bad as you think these singles are ..pearl jam, counting crows, pumpkins, eels, soundgarden, rhcp,etc etc you cannot seriously keep a straight face and tell me that their singles are WORSE than marky mark ,take that, will smith etc etc . It just feels so wrong!

Kiwi, Saturday, 2 November 2002 11:05 (twenty-one years ago) link

I love that Color Me Badd song, but I agree that it's pretty badd.

I nominate LaTour's "People are Still Having Sex"

J (Jay), Saturday, 2 November 2002 11:44 (twenty-one years ago) link

I like so many of these songs its untrue.

The real answer would be that they are ALL chart trance from 1999.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Saturday, 2 November 2002 11:50 (twenty-one years ago) link

And also ALL the alterna-rock stuff you've mentioned is brilliant. Except possibly Jeremy.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Saturday, 2 November 2002 11:52 (twenty-one years ago) link

10. crash test dummies “mmm mmm mmm mmm”
11. rem, “radio song”
12. baz luhrman “everybody’s free (to wear sunscreen)”
13. deep blue something “breakfast at tiffanys”
14. spin doctors “two princes”
15. bryan adams “everything I do (I do it for you)”
16. joan osborne “one of us”


Take Bryan Adams out of that and you have a decent "Side One" for a "Best of the 90s" mixtape.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Saturday, 2 November 2002 11:54 (twenty-one years ago) link

err, no you haven't...

michael (michael), Saturday, 2 November 2002 12:04 (twenty-one years ago) link

whitney's song shd not be on that list, despite her hand playing a quartertone sharp when she hits the high notes

kiwi, watch that bubblegum guilt!!

mark s (mark s), Saturday, 2 November 2002 12:19 (twenty-one years ago) link

hand = band!!

mark s (mark s), Saturday, 2 November 2002 12:22 (twenty-one years ago) link

Maria McKee's Show Me Heaven should definitely be in the list.

MarkH (MarkH), Saturday, 2 November 2002 13:05 (twenty-one years ago) link

Yeah, count me in.

You forgot:

2nu, "Ponderous"
The Brian Setzer Orchestra, "Since I Don't Have You"
Cliff Richard, "The Lord's Prayer"
Dead Eye Dick, "New Age Girl"
Voices That Care, "Voices That Care"
Bob Carlisle, "Butterfly Kisses"

I think it will be crucial to allow people who actually like some of the list songs to provide positive reviews as a kind of counterpoint.

I love: #36, #50, #53, #54, #57, #74, #77, #84.

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Saturday, 2 November 2002 13:46 (twenty-one years ago) link

No "Show Me Heaven" is brill!!

I agree that some of these choices were clearly based on familiarity rather than true awfulness - "My Heart Will Go On" sounds pretty good straight after "It's All Coming Back To Me Now" or "Tell Him".

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Saturday, 2 November 2002 13:59 (twenty-one years ago) link

"Tonight Tonight" is apalling.

LalalalaICAN'THEARYOUlalalala...

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 2 November 2002 14:03 (twenty-one years ago) link

Donut Bitch's list is OTM, apart from Wishing Well, which was 80's and grebt, and the Farm selection. Groovy Train might be arse on a plate, but All Together Now is double arse on two plates.

RickyT (RickyT), Saturday, 2 November 2002 14:15 (twenty-one years ago) link

WHERE THE FUCK IS MOBY?!!

Keith McD (Keith McD), Saturday, 2 November 2002 14:15 (twenty-one years ago) link

Of course now "What's Up" sounds great in all its forms because Pink is singing it. Her last two singles are worse versions of the same.

Ronan (Ronan), Saturday, 2 November 2002 14:17 (twenty-one years ago) link

42. michael jackson “black or white”

HAHAHAHA! So many of these songs are grebt. You are all on crack.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Saturday, 2 November 2002 14:53 (twenty-one years ago) link

"WHERE THE FUCK IS MOBY?!!

But Keith, most of Moby's nineties stuff is fine - the metal stuff I'm not sure about but it is surely to negligable to count.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Saturday, 2 November 2002 14:57 (twenty-one years ago) link

What is more fun than the list itself is wondering whether there is any song on this list that NO ONE on ILE will stick up for.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Saturday, 2 November 2002 14:58 (twenty-one years ago) link

AND THERE IS NO SLEEPER OR GREAT ESCAPE BLUR STUFF YOU ARE ALL MENTALISTS!

Matt DC (Matt DC), Saturday, 2 November 2002 15:01 (twenty-one years ago) link

AND THERE IS NO MENSWEAR OR NORTHSIDE OR UB40 OR 2 UNLIMITED OR...

It's all blandly inoffensive Radio Rock, mostly, but hardly anything I would run from the room to avoid. This is what happens when you get Yanks to tell you what they hate. Where are all those really shit records that came out of Europe and Britain in the 90s, eh... EH?!!

Matt DC (Matt DC), Saturday, 2 November 2002 15:11 (twenty-one years ago) link

I like a fair percentage of those singles.

jel -- (jel), Saturday, 2 November 2002 16:22 (twenty-one years ago) link

and where the hell are basemnet jaxx?

jel -- (jel), Saturday, 2 November 2002 16:23 (twenty-one years ago) link

You also missed out Fun Lovin' Criminals' "Scooby Snacks" or whatever it was called.

N. (nickdastoor), Saturday, 2 November 2002 16:23 (twenty-one years ago) link

1. 4 non blondes “what’s up?”
Eeeek! Thanks a lot, guys.

2. red hot chilli peppers “under the bridge”
Really? Number 2? It's not that bad, is it?

3. billy joel “we didn’t start the fire”
Good pick here. This song should be buried somewhere in a Nevada desert.

8. smashing pumpkins “tonight tonight”
? Surely they've put out worse?

11. rem, “radio song”
Yes, you should have put "Everybody Hurts" on there, too. Though this one sucks pretty bad as well...Did they really release it as a single?

14. spin doctors “two princes”
Another good pick. Awful.

15. bryan adams “everything I do (I do it for you)”
However, really EXCELLENT for comic relief, if you start spontaneously singing the chorus if you do someone a favor and they say "Thank you".

16. joan osborne “one of us”
Would almost certainly be in my the Top 5, for me.

17. alanis morrisette “ironic”
Overwrought, but I dislike "One Hand in My Pocket" more.

19. cranberries “zombie”
My father inexplicably LOVES this song. I mean LOVES it. He doesn't like anything else by them, just this song.

42. michael jackson “black or white”
Brings back chilling memories of McKauley Culkin...

46. genesis “I can’t dance”
Should be MUCH higher up on this list. Another Top 5'er.

57. counting crowes “round here”
Mr. Jones

65. toad the wet sprocket “all I want”
Nah. Harmless. I say substitute this with that "dance on the ocean" or "walk on the ocean" (or whatever the hell it was) song.

Good list, Tom and Jess!

Others:

As suggested previously, Dead Eye Dick's "New Age Girl" has GOT to be on this list, and way, way up. Sheryl Crow's "If It Makes You Happy". Bryan Adams' "Have You Ever Really Loved a Woman" might be a strong contender as well.

Joe (Joe), Saturday, 2 November 2002 16:51 (twenty-one years ago) link

Billy Joel's "We Didn't Start The Fire" is terrible, but it isn't from the 90s.

one that really should be there: "Both Sides Of The Story" by Phil Collins. or was he just not worth hating by that time?

robin carmody (robin carmody), Saturday, 2 November 2002 16:54 (twenty-one years ago) link

eurocrap: blur - charmless man

did smashmouth release anything in the 90s? 'walking on the sun' should be included if eligable

and is 'keep em seperated' really worse than 'pretty fly for a white guy'?

minna (minna), Saturday, 2 November 2002 16:57 (twenty-one years ago) link

Other ones I'd consider: "My Sister" Juliana Hatfield, "Hey Jealousy" by erm...who did that one? Blanking on the name. How about "It's a Shame about Ray" by The Lemonheads? "Good Stuff" by the B-52s (or was that still in the 80s)? And there must be something out there by They Might Be Giants and Soul Asylum that fits this list.

Joe (Joe), Saturday, 2 November 2002 16:58 (twenty-one years ago) link

hey jealousy = gin blossoms but it's not top 100 bad

minna (minna), Saturday, 2 November 2002 17:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Oops. Robin's right.

This is from a BJ discography: Storm Front and the first single, We Didn't Start The Fire, reached the #1 spots simultaneously on the Billboard album and singles charts on December 16, 1989. My Billboard book says it stayed #1 for a total of two weeks. So while it was still a hit during the first flush weeks of the '90's, it peaked before 1990. Hence, I would say: NOT a '90's record.

Oh god, yes, the Juliana Hatfield one.

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Saturday, 2 November 2002 17:03 (twenty-one years ago) link

Is there a reason Dodgy "Staying Out For The Summer" wasn't chosen?

"Champagne Supernova" wasn't a single, but I guess it might as well have been. But given my horrid housemates obsession with it I'll let that pass.

Graham (graham), Saturday, 2 November 2002 17:08 (twenty-one years ago) link

No Shamen? ("Phorever People", "Ebeneezer Goode")
No Smart-E's? ("Sesame's Treet")
No Stone Temple Pilots? (Um, I don't remember the names of any of their singles. "Big Bang Baby"? "Sour Girl"? "Creep"? Are those right?)

Tracks that I'm not sure came out in the 90s:

3. billy joel “we didn’t start the fire”
31. digable planets “rebirth of slick”
39. color me badd “I adore mi amore”
74. vanessa williams “save the best for last”
82. mc hammer “2 legit 2 quit”

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Saturday, 2 November 2002 17:09 (twenty-one years ago) link

Adamski - Killer

jel -- (jel), Saturday, 2 November 2002 17:10 (twenty-one years ago) link

It was a single i can even remember the huge video with the girls dancing argh

Chupa-Cabras (vicc13), Saturday, 2 November 2002 17:15 (twenty-one years ago) link

i like way too muhc songs on that list, but again i have no taste

Chupa-Cabras (vicc13), Saturday, 2 November 2002 17:17 (twenty-one years ago) link

IT'S THE MOST HILARIOUSLY AWFUL LIST I'VE EVER SEEN. BAD, BAD CHOICES THROUGHOUT. IF THAT'S THE WORST SINGLES OF THE 90'S I'D BE VERY INTERESTED TO READ WHAT YOU THOUGHT WERE THE BEST. BIZARRE!!! NO, I WON'T STOP SHOUTING.....

Mckenzie (Mckenzie), Saturday, 2 November 2002 17:19 (twenty-one years ago) link

jamie walters 'how do you talk to an angle'

keith (keithmcl), Saturday, 2 November 2002 17:23 (twenty-one years ago) link

According to Billboard:

3. billy joel “we didn’t start the fire” - 1989
31. digable planets “rebirth of slick” - 1993
39. color me badd “I adore mi amore” - 1991
74. vanessa williams “save the best for last” - 1992
82. mc hammer “2 legit 2 quit” - 1991

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Saturday, 2 November 2002 17:23 (twenty-one years ago) link

angle = angel

keith (keithmcl), Saturday, 2 November 2002 17:23 (twenty-one years ago) link

pity, cz i wz going to say "very obliquely" ahahaha

mark s (mark s), Saturday, 2 November 2002 17:28 (twenty-one years ago) link

You talk to an angle in the right way. And don't be obtuse. *dodges hurled brickbats once again*

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 2 November 2002 17:29 (twenty-one years ago) link

Tom's [I think] top 100 singles of the nineties

Graham (graham), Saturday, 2 November 2002 17:30 (twenty-one years ago) link

Mr E's Beautiful Blues, released Feb 14th 2000, though they might have started playing it just before Christmas.

Graham (graham), Saturday, 2 November 2002 17:31 (twenty-one years ago) link

that list is so indie.

keith (keithmcl), Saturday, 2 November 2002 17:46 (twenty-one years ago) link

meaning the top 100 list, of course.

keith (keithmcl), Saturday, 2 November 2002 17:46 (twenty-one years ago) link

(I'll gladly write about some of these, BTW.)

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Saturday, 2 November 2002 18:04 (twenty-one years ago) link

More Life In A Tramp's Vest
Happy Shopper
Alright (Cast version)
The Circle
She's In Fashion (except I've an eerie feeling that was 2000)
Swallowed
Where I Find My Heaven
You Stole The Sun From My Heart (again, was this 2000?)
(How Does It Feel To Be) On Top Of The World
Don't Come Home Too Soon
South Of The Border
I've Got Something To Say
Good Enough
All-Star

Is 14.

Graham - by Dodgy's standards, Staying Out For The Summer isn't that bad...

Mr Swygart (mrswygart), Saturday, 2 November 2002 18:18 (twenty-one years ago) link

Oh, and I might write about one of them as well, if you want. Except looking at that list, I quite like a few of them.

Under The Bridge, though...

Mr Swygart (mrswygart), Saturday, 2 November 2002 18:22 (twenty-one years ago) link

Jess: I am very glad you've run with the "21st Century Digital Boy" suggestion.

Ned: "Tonight, Tonight" is possibly the most god-awful single of the quarter century -- a shallow ploy to try and replicate the commercial success of "Disarm," except in place of that single's boringly ominous vibe they brought in the flattest, most rudimentary string section possible and everyone just pumped and pumped and strained to find some emotion in a very, very dull song. Corgan's labored bleating over the top does not help -- he sounds like Gilbert Gottfried in labor.

Ones I like / don't mind so much: "Radio Song" (please replace with "Everybody Hurts," which even as an REM-friendly type I cringed at), "Two Princes" (it seems wrong for Spin Doctors to be the whipping-boys of the 90s when they generally just seemed like a casual bar-band that lucked into a chart single: I don't even think they thought they were cool), "Rebirth of Slick," "Djed" (this is a list of pop singles; shoehorning the 20-minute album track "Djed" in there seems like a really lame way to pick on post-rock, plus ruins the logic of the thing, because if album tracks count I guarantee you there are things on let's say Lou Bega's record that are a million times worse than "Mambo #5") ... (replace "Everything About You," which was at least sort of amusing, with UKJ's "Cat's in the Cradle" cover). "More than Words" I absolutely hate but I feel like there's something remarkable about having written the anthem to every American high-school asshole pressuring his girlfriend to put out, and I think I might like to write about that. (Funnily enough I am already writing something for something else about Silk's "Freak Me," the only song in history that makes me physically ill when I hear it.) "Cantaloop" ain't so offensive (though "Mr. Wendel" is, it seems like something Mr. Lif would have written when he was younger and even hokier). "Sex and Candy" I didn't mind, and file with Spin Doctors -- such a brief flash of an inoffensive throwaway single that it seems rude to hate it. Thank you for remembering the shit that was the Toadies; and yeah, I too unsurprisingly like "Buddy Holly."

Things I seem to recall really sucking: that Cake "how do you afford your rock and roll lifestyle" song, the Fleetwood Mac comeback release (if that can count), Sublime's "What I Got" or the even more dire one that came after it, something or other about Superman by some horrible Canadian alt-rock band or other (Our Lady Peace?), John Secada, "These are Days" by 10,000 Maniacs, BLACK CROWES ...

Also please note that maybe contrary to your intentions this looks like a list that was written by people who listen to mostly alt-rock and just don't like the examples of it that chart.

nabisco (nabisco), Saturday, 2 November 2002 18:34 (twenty-one years ago) link

"Tonight, Tonight" is possibly the most god-awful single of the quarter century

Let's just say I violently disagree and leave it at that. :-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 2 November 2002 18:51 (twenty-one years ago) link

I agree with Ned in the violently disagreeing stakes!

jel -- (jel), Saturday, 2 November 2002 18:54 (twenty-one years ago) link

I think this list can't decide whether it wants to be a cartography of the despised middlebrow or the work of ph34rsomely iconoclastic despewados.

Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Saturday, 2 November 2002 18:56 (twenty-one years ago) link

I kind of disown the the Top 100 singles list, actually - which is why it's not linked to on FT any more. It was compiled and written when I was suffering from depression and needed something - in this case writing 250 or so words an evening - to give myself a structure and pull me out of it. It worked very well but I don't really recognise the person who put it together now. (Though I still love about half the songs and like almost all of them).

Tom (Groke), Saturday, 2 November 2002 18:58 (twenty-one years ago) link

The reason for the split list personality is that it was done by lots of people with no consultation in vastly differing states of sobriety. Tempting though it is to look for ulterior motives there wasn't any overarching principle I don't think, other than listing records that came out in the 1990s and were awful. I didn't even think the list would be made public.

That said I stand by my choices, which I do think are all very bad records and really got under my skin and annoyed me (in a way that even awful pop usually doesn't - something about the typical forcefulness of the rock delivery maybe?).

Tom (Groke), Saturday, 2 November 2002 19:06 (twenty-one years ago) link

"Jeremy", "Two Princes", and "Zombie" are all the most tolerable songs by bands I dislike. I don't get the purpose of making this list. These songs all seem either like perfectly adequate ballads (mostly) from their genre for the time or else obviously not to my liking but not worth getting worked up over - I haven't had to hear "I Will Always Love You" in 8 years or so and I don't listen to any divas of that sort so who cares what I think? It is totally beyond me why something like "Black Hole Sun" would be one of the worst singles of the 90s.

sundar subramanian (sundar), Saturday, 2 November 2002 19:27 (twenty-one years ago) link

The purpose originally was for Jess and I to amuse each other on IM by naming terrible singles - nothing more or less.

"Black Hole Sun" if it's in there because of me is in there because the video is so bad.

Tom (Groke), Saturday, 2 November 2002 19:31 (twenty-one years ago) link

the really bad stuff that does chart is also quickly forgotten. as in 'erased from memory'. so its a tough one to list.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Saturday, 2 November 2002 19:33 (twenty-one years ago) link

yeah, it's kind of pointless to try to figure out who chose what, as at least 50 of the tracks were me and tom pissed out of our minds on IM saying "blah blah song title" & "MY GOD HOW AWFUL IS THAT", followed by me actually compiling the IM chat (as per tom's request, but sorry if you didn't want me to post it...heh, or at least identify you with it.) maura, fred, ned and mitch's additions (as well as josh and nitsuh and felicity and some others i'm probably forgetting) were all done non-drunk (as far as i know.) the list is predominantly american because a. everyone else but tom is an american and b. america produced the worst music of the 90s (sorry, we just make more period, so it's law of scale.) (tom and i also discovered that night that rock was the worst music ever, complete with hilarious scenario of uh ? the mysterians or whoever coming to our near and horrible future and looking at what they had wrought.)

ethan got on my dick last night that the list was too obvious and middlebrow, but fuck it, that's what WAS so horrible about the 90s: the creeping evil of banality and all that...(also, ethan has lost any ability at aesthetic reflection in the last 12 months.) part of the point of making lists like this, however, is a. wallowing in yr own "misery" and b. attempting to rile people (as ethan and 50% of the posters to this thread have proved out.) it was also a lot f fun. what's the point of doing anything then, especially posting a reply to a thread about it?

(or, what tom said as i was posting.)

jess (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 2 November 2002 19:34 (twenty-one years ago) link

No ATB? No Meredith Brooks? I'd mention Alicia's Attic, but someone on here is bound to stick up for them, or Ind*pendent Love Song, but for some reason I still feel guilty after that woman googled herself (and I hadn't even got round to spewing my bile over the thread in question by then).

I will not bother listing the indie entries which I consider lacklustre and plodding but not actually BAD because I know nobody involved will ever agree, but I must disagree with the first two lines of Dan's suggestions, too. I wouldn't be that offended if Smart Es got in, but really, is there any complaint that could be levelled at it that wouldn't be much more fairly aimed at, I don't know, Poing?

(I'd even stick up for the original Poing if I had to, but whoever decided it needed a 1999 trancebag makeover needs a slap.)

Rebecca, hunting for flame-proof jacket (reb), Saturday, 2 November 2002 19:34 (twenty-one years ago) link

one that really should be there: "Both Sides Of The Story" by Phil Collins. or was he just not worth hating by that time?

Certainly "Both Sides of the Story" as well as "Another Day in Paradise" are both vomit-inducing. Was "The Living Years" by Mike and the Mechanics in the 1990s? Something's telling me it was in the 80s, as well as "Wild Wild West" by The Escape Club. If not, they are all viable candidates for inclusion.

How about "Deeper Shade of Soul" by Urban Dance Squad? I have kind of a love/hate thing with that one...or "Life Is a Highway" by Tom Cochrane? Eh, I guess it isn't Top 100 bad.

Joe (Joe), Saturday, 2 November 2002 19:42 (twenty-one years ago) link

"The Living Years" was 80s, but the Mechanics' "Word of Mouth" was 90s, and that's unspeakable.

robin carmody (robin carmody), Saturday, 2 November 2002 19:47 (twenty-one years ago) link

jess, you're welcome for the help.

felicity (felicity), Saturday, 2 November 2002 20:27 (twenty-one years ago) link

* Public Enemy "911 is a Joke"

DB, please tell me you not serious!! The video rules!!!!

brg30 (brg30), Saturday, 2 November 2002 21:52 (twenty-one years ago) link

No Stone Temple Pilots? (Um, I don't remember the names of any of their singles.

Dan,You Are Blessed!!!

brg30 (brg30), Saturday, 2 November 2002 21:54 (twenty-one years ago) link

The worst single of the 90s was that horrible piece of shit that went something like "This is the story of a GIRRRRRLLLL, WHO CRIED A RIVER AND DROWNED THE WHOLE WORRRRRRRRRRRRLD!!!!!!!!!!!" Who was that? Awful AWFUL song.

Evan, Saturday, 2 November 2002 22:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

I'd like to contribute to this. As for list suggestions:

1) No Creed? (right now I wouldn't waste the brain cells trying to come up with a song title)
2) Why "Radio Song" when that song REM did for the Man on the Moon soundtrack is infinitely worse?
3) No Shania Twain?

j.lu (j.lu), Saturday, 2 November 2002 22:07 (twenty-one years ago) link

shania twain is going through her neil young trans period, it's great!

jel -- (jel), Saturday, 2 November 2002 22:26 (twenty-one years ago) link

I like a few of these songs, but I love none of them, so I ain't mad atcha. I nominate the Rollins Band's "Liar" to the list, too, along with "Barbie Girl" because I hate fun.

I know this is mostly pop-focused, but can we please please please please make an exception and add Tim McGraw's "Indian Outlaw" to the list?

Nate Patrin (Nate Patrin), Saturday, 2 November 2002 22:34 (twenty-one years ago) link

A lot of those songs are actually good, what the hell? I had like ten things to contribute until I actually read the list. I mean it's ya'alls list, I don't really care, but it seems odd to ask for other people to write about why these songs suck, when everyone here is arguing that many of them don't.

Unless you WANTED 400 entries about why "Candle in the Wind '97" sucks.

Ally (mlescaut), Saturday, 2 November 2002 22:46 (twenty-one years ago) link

I like about 30 of these. Half fall into a category where I don't understand the logic for picking them (e.g. "All I Want": not hideously overplayed at the time, not hideously popular, and largely forgotten now), and the other half I understand (e.g. "Tubthumping": either immensely catchy or annoying).

You need some Bush song on there. They shouldn't escape this list after two awful 90's albums.

Vinnie (vprabhu), Saturday, 2 November 2002 23:16 (twenty-one years ago) link

jess, since when am i an american????

additionally, i think i arrived after the list was pretty much already finished, so all i did was agree with the ones that i thought were bad and went silent when 'buddy holly' came up.

mitch lastnamewithheld (mitchlnw), Saturday, 2 November 2002 23:19 (twenty-one years ago) link

i noticed that weezer made the list, just not often enough.

danzig and the oh-so excruciating tripping daisy are missing though, just like jan arden and natalie merchant.

mike (ro)bott, Sunday, 3 November 2002 00:31 (twenty-one years ago) link

hmmm ... there was a Duran Duran entry ("Come Undone") below the "911 Is A Joke" one, could it have been a misprint for Duran's cover of PE?

robin carmody (robin carmody), Sunday, 3 November 2002 00:55 (twenty-one years ago) link

mitch you're more americanized than a lot of american friends of mine!

jess (dubplatestyle), Sunday, 3 November 2002 01:10 (twenty-one years ago) link

the whole exercise will be invalidated if Creep by Radiohead is not number 1.

chris (chris), Sunday, 3 November 2002 01:17 (twenty-one years ago) link

While we're at it, here, "Wannabe" by the Spice Girls sucked too (nowhere to go but up after that one).

Joe (Joe), Sunday, 3 November 2002 02:38 (twenty-one years ago) link

no it didn't

mark s (mark s), Sunday, 3 November 2002 02:41 (twenty-one years ago) link

people need to stop picking good songs!

jess (dubplatestyle), Sunday, 3 November 2002 02:43 (twenty-one years ago) link

you started it!!

mark s (mark s), Sunday, 3 November 2002 02:53 (twenty-one years ago) link

oi! don't put this on me just because my fellow drunk isn't around to shoulder the blame!

jess (dubplatestyle), Sunday, 3 November 2002 03:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

That's it, I have to know: who DID pick Buddy Holly?

Anyway, yes, you are missing Bush, that was the first one I thought of too. Glycerine.

Ally (mlescaut), Sunday, 3 November 2002 03:45 (twenty-one years ago) link

And **Natalie Merchant**. Has anyone mentioned her yet (too lazy to scroll up)? How could I overlook her...The "hay! hay! give 'em what they want" song or the "they say ay must be one of God's wonders, thaht of cre-AY-shun" song...don't know the titles, of course. The video for the latter...[shivers] kind of a touchy-feely, warm 'n' fuzzy, "embrace the diversity! embrace your femininity!", brand x-Benetton commercial, wun't it?

Joe (Joe), Sunday, 3 November 2002 03:47 (twenty-one years ago) link

Graham, you forgot to convert this thread subject to lower case.

donut bitch (donut), Sunday, 3 November 2002 03:54 (twenty-one years ago) link

Y'all must make some place for Metallica - enter sandman - on this list.
I insist.

The Hegemon, Sunday, 3 November 2002 04:38 (twenty-one years ago) link

BLESSID UNION OF SOULS - "Hey Leonardo". Please amend.

David R. (popshots75`), Sunday, 3 November 2002 05:28 (twenty-one years ago) link

Nate is OTM about Tim McGraw's "Indian Outlaw." Why do so many rednecks think they're Indians?

I'm an Indian outlaw
Half Cherokee and Choctaw
My baby --
She's a Chippewaw, waw, waw, waw.

However, the single that was the singlehandedley most fucked up in music in the 90's would have to be:

I thought she took the train to Mars, she's out back counting STARS.

By whover the fuck it was. I remembered watching Howard Stern on TV once and that "Stars" band was playing in the studio with Howard Stern. It was shitty.

wildcat wendell cooley, Sunday, 3 November 2002 06:45 (twenty-one years ago) link

Oh, "Stars" by HUM. HUM, WTF???

wildcat wendell cooley, Sunday, 3 November 2002 06:47 (twenty-one years ago) link

I e-mailed Jess about this (assuming he hasn't blocked me or anything) and let him know that hey wait a minute what about the Butthole Surfers' "Pepper"? Those fuckers released some of the most mescaline-addled psychedelic hell-rock in the early '80s, and what are they reduced to a decade later? Sam's Club Beck! Gah.

Nate Patrin (Nate Patrin), Sunday, 3 November 2002 06:53 (twenty-one years ago) link

How' bout "Cherry Pie" by Slaughter???

wildcat wendell cooley, Sunday, 3 November 2002 06:58 (twenty-one years ago) link

nate, i got yr email.

wildcat: when i was doing the washing up today, i actually remembered hum. creepy.

jess (dubplatestyle), Sunday, 3 November 2002 07:01 (twenty-one years ago) link

Oh, "Stars" by HUM. HUM, WTF???

Josh Kortbein to thread!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 3 November 2002 07:16 (twenty-one years ago) link

I like about a quarter of these too. I'm esp. fond of: 06 12 46 66 76 78. ("bingo!")

Dan I., Sunday, 3 November 2002 07:30 (twenty-one years ago) link

brg, do you mean the Crash Test Dummies?

donut bitch (donut), Sunday, 3 November 2002 07:36 (twenty-one years ago) link

By the way, the answer is Counting Crows to all of the above. Thank you.

donut bitch (donut), Sunday, 3 November 2002 07:36 (twenty-one years ago) link

But Keith, most of Moby's nineties stuff is fine - the metal stuff I'm not sure about but it is surely to negligable to count.

Sorry about the outburst. I was drunk.
But seriously, 'Bodyrock' was released in 1999 (according to our friend AMG), and therefore MUST be in the top ten.

Keith McD (Keith McD), Sunday, 3 November 2002 08:55 (twenty-one years ago) link

ned, you touch me

Josh (Josh), Sunday, 3 November 2002 09:52 (twenty-one years ago) link

nb that is not an imperative

Josh (Josh), Sunday, 3 November 2002 09:53 (twenty-one years ago) link

"Sorry about the outburst. I was drunk.
But seriously, 'Bodyrock' was released in 1999 (according to our friend AMG), and therefore MUST be in the top ten. "

You're right - that should replace the much-less-offensive Fatboy Slim mix of "Body Movin".

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Sunday, 3 November 2002 10:51 (twenty-one years ago) link

you shd get someone to savage each song and someone (else) (or not necessarily heh) to celebrate it

i will defend whitney obv and "black or white" and i think "2 legit 2 quit"

mark s (mark s), Sunday, 3 November 2002 12:20 (twenty-one years ago) link

I second "Pepper," "Hey Leonardo" and the Tim McGraw track.

People have sadly forgotten Train's "Meet Virginia," though it was released just at the cusp of the '90's, entering the US top 40 on 11/20/02, peaking I don't know when.

Sinker's suggestion is U&K, obv. I will defend anything from Bush's first album.

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Sunday, 3 November 2002 12:33 (twenty-one years ago) link

WE ARE FORGETTING NU-SWING.

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Sunday, 3 November 2002 12:35 (twenty-one years ago) link

And 2 Hyped Brothers & A Dog's "Doo Doo Brown." Not just for the repeated title but for "Don't drink pepsi, always coke. (pause for effect) Dope."

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Sunday, 3 November 2002 12:54 (twenty-one years ago) link

I will defend anything from Bush's first album.

*blink* I'm not so much surprised at a defense as I am the fact you'd be the one defending it!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 3 November 2002 15:09 (twenty-one years ago) link

DOOP!

Matt DC (Matt DC), Sunday, 3 November 2002 15:44 (twenty-one years ago) link

'Two Sides To The Story' by Phil Collins is a good shout though.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Sunday, 3 November 2002 15:45 (twenty-one years ago) link

Actually, there are at least ten songs on this list I've never heard, and am actually downloading at this moment knowing I will probably end up liking them.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Sunday, 3 November 2002 15:46 (twenty-one years ago) link

I am very keen to see your defence of Black And White, Mark!

It's a good list. Only three I actually like (Beasties/Fatboy, Arrested Development (with big reservations about the lyrics!) and Dre), and absolutely loads of unspeakably bad records. Lots of good suggestions since too, except from the odd anti-pop mentalists (Spice Girls, Take That, Will Smith!) who are generally most annoyed by really good pop music, strangely.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 3 November 2002 16:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Oh, Ned, I HATED the pretty-boy caterwauling initially, but...you know. Duran Duran as grunge: they achieve the dual the trick of having fabulous cheekbones and rocking on out. And I don't know what the hell they were on about, either.

Uh, HELLO? Paula Cole, people! Where has "Where Have All the Cowboys Gone?" gone? Or Dawson's Creek theme song "I Don't Want To Wait."

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Sunday, 3 November 2002 16:10 (twenty-one years ago) link

Duran Duran as grunge

Ha! Okay, you called it. :-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 3 November 2002 16:16 (twenty-one years ago) link

two words: eddie van halen

mark s (mark s), Sunday, 3 November 2002 16:20 (twenty-one years ago) link

Actually, can we all vote and compile a proper worst singles list? Then it would be PROVEN BY SCIENCE that My Heart Will Go On is the worst record ever?

Matt DC (Matt DC), Sunday, 3 November 2002 16:38 (twenty-one years ago) link

I liked My Heart Will Go On listens the 8th-23rd times I heard it.

(I also own an Alisha's Attic single)

Graham (graham), Sunday, 3 November 2002 16:40 (twenty-one years ago) link

Did Eddie Van Halen play the guitar stuff on Black And White? They were good, but there are so many appalling things about that song...

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 3 November 2002 16:54 (twenty-one years ago) link

Did Eddie Van Halen play the guitar stuff on Black And White?

It was Slash, actually.

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Sunday, 3 November 2002 17:09 (twenty-one years ago) link

hah mark's references are so oblique, i didn't even consider for a moment that van halen actually had a direct connection to "b&w"

mitch lastnamewithheld (mitchlnw), Sunday, 3 November 2002 17:13 (twenty-one years ago) link

You're right - that should replace the much-less-offensive Fatboy Slim mix of "Body Movin".

Well the original was such a fun song with all those crazy steel drums and such, and since Cook was fresh off "The Rockafella Skank" you'd think a remix would be ace - but it just sounds kind of sloppy and rehashes that "Sound of Milwaukee" wah-wah-whirr noise. The video, however, is one of the greatest things in history.

Nate Patrin (Nate Patrin), Sunday, 3 November 2002 17:34 (twenty-one years ago) link

Yeah, it's far from among his finest moments, but I think it's even farther from being among the 100 worst (prominent/hit) songs of the '90s.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 3 November 2002 18:18 (twenty-one years ago) link

I'd happily defend Tonight Tonight.

jel -- (jel), Sunday, 3 November 2002 18:25 (twenty-one years ago) link

Shawn Mullins-"Lullaby"
Wilson Phillips-"Hold On"

"You could sustain/but are you comfortable with the pain?" Ewwwww.

Arthur (Arthur), Sunday, 3 November 2002 18:35 (twenty-one years ago) link

I thought it was Slash who played guitar on Give In To Me, which is a much worse song than Black or White.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Sunday, 3 November 2002 19:03 (twenty-one years ago) link

By the way, the answer is Counting Crows to all of the above. Thank you.

Yes!!DB owns this thread now..rightupinyourfaceanddisyou...

brg30 (brg30), Sunday, 3 November 2002 20:43 (twenty-one years ago) link

BLESSID UNION OF SOULS - "Hey Leonardo". Please amend.

Never before has a person been so correct. How I forgot to mention this the first time is astounding.

Vinnie (vprabhu), Sunday, 3 November 2002 21:28 (twenty-one years ago) link

Also, how can it be possible that there isn't a single by Korn listed? (That nursery rhyme one for starters...)

"Wannabe" should most definitely be on this list, seeing as it's one of the most painful songs ever written.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Sunday, 3 November 2002 22:13 (twenty-one years ago) link

Another thread has reminded me of the disturbing absense of Timmy T's "One More Try" from this list, as well.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Sunday, 3 November 2002 22:16 (twenty-one years ago) link

So did Blind Melon make the list? If so, I wanna write about them. Either them, or Live.

Mandee, Sunday, 3 November 2002 22:29 (twenty-one years ago) link

''"Wannabe" should most definitely be on this list''

why is it painful dan?

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Sunday, 3 November 2002 22:30 (twenty-one years ago) link

Don't forget Itsy Bitsy Teeny Weeny...

I *liked* Wannabe at the time (along with Gangsta's Paradise it was one of my first popist conversions). Now I listen to it again it is truly, truly horrible. Just annoying. But still, I think there were followup songs that were infinitely worse ('Mama' owns this thread, although redeemed slightly for being the split A-side to the fantastic Who Do You Think You Are.)

And that's the problem - people are always willing to shoot down the high-profile singles, but usually the follow-ups are even worse. Everyone slates 2Unlimited's No Limit, but no-one mentions Faces. I bet virtually every artist on the above list has released worse singles to the ones up there.

And where the fuck are Simply Red, anyway? Bloody Americans wouldn't know shit music if it stared them in the face.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Sunday, 3 November 2002 22:44 (twenty-one years ago) link

I liked 2 Unlimited!

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 3 November 2002 23:15 (twenty-one years ago) link

everyone does

mark s (mark s), Sunday, 3 November 2002 23:16 (twenty-one years ago) link

Everyone = a lot of people but not really approaching "everyone" in the slightest, obv.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Sunday, 3 November 2002 23:32 (twenty-one years ago) link

why is it painful dan?

It is the sonic equivalent of Baz Luhrman's "Moulin Rouge"; a level of combined garishness and volume that leaves one saying: a) WTF?, b) who didn't take their Ritalin today?, and c) how can I avoid having to hear this as much as possible?

Joe (Joe), Monday, 4 November 2002 00:54 (twenty-one years ago) link

I will defend Wilson Phillips' "Hold On", incidentally.

surely Blessid Union Of Souls' "I Believe" is THE WORST THING EVAH?

robin carmody (robin carmody), Monday, 4 November 2002 06:40 (twenty-one years ago) link

the really bad stuff that does chart is also quickly forgotten. as in 'erased from memory'. so its a tough one to list.

Yes, but that would miss the point of the list, which is that these songs are still popular and bring happiness to many. If less people are wrong, then Tom and Jess are less right. Do you see??

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Monday, 4 November 2002 10:25 (twenty-one years ago) link

The worst single of the 90s was that horrible piece of shit that went something like "This is the story of a GIRRRRRLLLL, WHO CRIED A RIVER AND DROWNED THE WHOLE WORRRRRRRRRRRRLD!!!!!!!!!!!" Who was that? Awful AWFUL song.

Tragically, Nine Days' "Absolutely" is from 2000.

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Monday, 4 November 2002 10:26 (twenty-one years ago) link

can't be arsed to look through yr list, but first nail in Britpop coffin: "Live Forever" by Oasis (PLOD PLOD BE SERIOUS AND ROCK'S RICH TAPESTRY GGGGEEEEEZZZNXXXKK) and for services to ambulance chasing/final nail in Britpop coffin: "Say What You Want" by Texas (to Britpop what "We Close Our Eyes" by Go West was to '80s New Pop).

Denise Lambert, Monday, 4 November 2002 10:34 (twenty-one years ago) link

Yes Andrew we are such grinches and hate things that are popular.

I've just remembered that the Oasis song I wanted in but couldnt remember the title of is "All Around The World", thankyou Denise.

Tom (Groke), Monday, 4 November 2002 10:37 (twenty-one years ago) link

Sorry. I was a bit grumpy due to Tom's Top 100 singles being my Gateway Drug into Tom (It's all been downhill since there etc), and seeing it disowned in public pisses me off. So I should write my own!

And my point remains: The songs are on this list because they're popular, as well as you don't like them. A lot of these are The Big Hit for the band, and unnaturally extended their lifespan, causing them to release songs which aren't as good (or else those songs would be the big hit, which contradicts the premise of the supposition, thus proving it by science!).

Speaking of which, I understand that hopes are still high for science to discover a new power source based around the fact that the CD listing for All Around The World only says six minutes, but the track lasts for two to three days.

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Monday, 4 November 2002 11:02 (twenty-one years ago) link

i also liked the top 100 singles. i don't like this worst 100 list. sorry.

Alan (Alan), Monday, 4 November 2002 11:26 (twenty-one years ago) link

I only like 8 of these songs, and can only be bothered to defend strongly perhaps two of them ("Macarena" and "Two Princes"). Nonetheless, I see very little merit in turning this "list produced while we were drunk and on IM" (proof that two wrongs don't make a right haha) inro an FT article. 100 paragraphs of hate - ugh! BAD IDEA, GOTTIT?

However, mark's idea of pro and con pieces on, say, a selection of these, might be worth reading...

Jeff W (Jeff W), Monday, 4 November 2002 11:37 (twenty-one years ago) link

There's another thread where I explain the 'disowning' thing. The two lists aren't meant to be companion pieces or anything, obviously. I am very happy if people like that list and the writing on it: if I could distance myself from the circumstances of its writing I would too.

Andrew your argument still seems circular: the actual process goes - they are popular = we get to hear them = we get to choose whether we like them or not. Or - having hated "What's Up" by 4 non blondes none of the people concerned are likely to have rushed out to buy the album in order to check if there was anything worse on it.

Tom (Groke), Monday, 4 November 2002 11:41 (twenty-one years ago) link

(I just counted the songs on this list that I like... 23!)

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 4 November 2002 13:42 (twenty-one years ago) link

OI! OI! OI! HANG ON! Where is Jewel's "HANDS"?!?!?!?!

Also, I agree with Tom's modification of Oasis's songs. Can we also replace "Zombie" ----> "Salvation"??? (eg. bad ---> unbelievably awful)

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 4 November 2002 15:07 (twenty-one years ago) link

Yeah, where is ANYTHING by Jewel? "Who Will Save Your Soul?", "Foolish Games", "Another Whiny Song", "Another Whiny Song (Only Now My Breasts Are Huge)", etc.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 4 November 2002 15:17 (twenty-one years ago) link

I love the fact that Tom and Jess (to take examples) can get slagged off for liking pop too much and for hating popular things. This a) proves they must be doing something right and b) confirms they are elitist-ironic-pop-rockist-taste-farmers.

I don't know if Tom has to be understood to be disowning his original top 100: people change, no-one who writes is the same person second time around, and all that. But I think it's fair for him to say he doesn't want to be identified by that piece, if it is no longer representative of his views, which linking from FT / NYPLM would suggest.

alext (alext), Monday, 4 November 2002 16:33 (twenty-one years ago) link

*counts number of songs I enjoy [as opposed to vaguely approve of]*...six, maybe? There's a lot of crunt on that list, that's for sure.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 4 November 2002 16:41 (twenty-one years ago) link

i still can't be arsed to read the list, but scrolling down i noticed someone citing sesame's treet by the smart-es which is surely the GREBTEST SINGLE of the '90s - certainly the most avant-garde TOTP performance ever.

Denise Lambert, Monday, 4 November 2002 16:46 (twenty-one years ago) link

I think Tom and Jess would be disappointed if people didn't slag them off for this list, in all fairness.

Ronan (Ronan), Monday, 4 November 2002 16:46 (twenty-one years ago) link

Not that that's necessarily bad. I like about 4 or 5, I don't hate too many, I think lots are shit. I have to say I fucking love that Fatboy Slim Remix of the Beastie Boys, I mean for christ's sake feel the cheese.

Ronan (Ronan), Monday, 4 November 2002 16:49 (twenty-one years ago) link

okay, okay NEW IDEA: one person to write about why they HATE this song, and one person to write about why they LOVE it. maximum 2 lines per song (jeff's right 100 paragraphs [or 200!] on these songs would be enough to make me shit blood). EMAIL ME if you're interested (this is U&K), and tell me which songs you'd be interested in.

jess (dubplatestyle), Monday, 4 November 2002 16:52 (twenty-one years ago) link

this thread = proof why spin magazine, and so many others like it, have devolved into list monthly

maura (maura), Monday, 4 November 2002 16:57 (twenty-one years ago) link

haha maura, don't be hatin on the list when you helped compile it!

jess (dubplatestyle), Monday, 4 November 2002 17:07 (twenty-one years ago) link

...and tell me which songs you'd be interested in.

Wait, wait...this might be tricky since the top 100 (at least the last 14) hasn't been nailed down yet.

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Monday, 4 November 2002 17:12 (twenty-one years ago) link

TV cream used to (and prob still does cos it's never updated) have a page called Tribute n Trash which took two, uh, "things" that were tenuously connected in some way, and you had a mini essay on each as to why one was ace and the other rub. DO that instead.

Blimey! tvcream has been updated some time in the last 2 years!

http://tv.cream.org/arktrib.htm

The Clock Tower v The Terrapin Hut is wonderful -- doubtless you'll all find it v twee and indulgent nostalgia, nevertheless i found that particular TnT quite affecting.

Alan (Alan), Monday, 4 November 2002 17:15 (twenty-one years ago) link

At the time, I thought that Seahorses single -- the strap-on Sally one -- was possibly the worst thing I've ever heard, but with hindsight it may be too innocuous to get all bothered about these days.

also:
that Friends theme song
was AM Radio by Everclear from 99 or 2000?
something from Midnite Vultures
Anthem for the Year 2000, Silverchair
Fly Away, Lenny Kravitz
She Talks to Angels/Jealous Again/Hard to Handle, the Black Crowes

scott pl. (scott pl.), Monday, 4 November 2002 18:23 (twenty-one years ago) link

The problem with publishing a list like this is that most of the fun is in publishing the list, which, well, has just happened. Here. Without that element of surprise the writing part has to fight very hard to count, I'd think.

That said some sort of love it/hate it article or blog format is a good idea, and some of these records could well show up there.

(I don't think Maura was hatin' - just pointing out that 190 new answers is proof that list-making 'works'. I can't remember any Article Response thread getting this much.)

Tom (Groke), Monday, 4 November 2002 18:24 (twenty-one years ago) link

"Detachable Penis" - King Missile

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 4 November 2002 18:29 (twenty-one years ago) link

Dan was that meant for this thread?

Tom (Groke), Monday, 4 November 2002 18:41 (twenty-one years ago) link

no fair, i was away all weekend so missed the chance to get in early on this one...not that i have anything to say that hasnt already been said

blueski, Monday, 4 November 2002 18:45 (twenty-one years ago) link

What other thread would I have mentioned that song in, Tom?

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 4 November 2002 19:04 (twenty-one years ago) link

(You have now tempted me to post that to the engagement announcement thread. PHEAR ME etc.)

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 4 November 2002 19:09 (twenty-one years ago) link

Well precisely Dan it could have been any thread on the board.

Tom (Groke), Monday, 4 November 2002 19:15 (twenty-one years ago) link

Have to add another one that appears to have been missed out, despite the redundancy of doing so...Vanilla - No Way No Way

A list is meant to encourage debate otherwise what's the point and this one has certainly done that.

mms (mms), Tuesday, 5 November 2002 15:19 (twenty-one years ago) link

but a list can also attempt to defeat the need for debate by being as fair, accurate and objective as possible - i like those kinds of lists

blueski, Tuesday, 5 November 2002 15:22 (twenty-one years ago) link

If "Detachable Penis" goes in there I am going to write 10,000 words on why I love it.

nabisco (nabisco), Tuesday, 5 November 2002 17:03 (twenty-one years ago) link

three years pass...
Jay-z - Hard Knock Life
Will Smith - Getting Jiggy With it
Eminem - My Name Is
Kid Rock - Bawitdaba
TLC - No Scrubs

Ruben, Sunday, 20 November 2005 05:54 (eighteen years ago) link

Those are the best, you mentalist.

Yawn (Wintermute), Sunday, 20 November 2005 06:06 (eighteen years ago) link

wow, i'd somehow missed this thread. i agree with almost all of the original list!

whoever suggested "my sister" ought to be ashamed, tho.

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Sunday, 20 November 2005 06:47 (eighteen years ago) link

Haha, Jess's list looks almost exactly like the results of the OMGWTFLOL 90s singles poll. There must be 20 or 30 songs there that I really love. How can anyone claim "Macarena" or "Mr. Wendal" or "Informer" or "Scatman" or "Cantaloop" would be among the worst songs of the nineties?

Tuomas (Tuomas), Sunday, 20 November 2005 10:27 (eighteen years ago) link

STEVIE B - BECAUSE I LOVE YOU

JTS, Sunday, 20 November 2005 12:59 (eighteen years ago) link

You people are mental. Or deaf, one of the two.

Cracks (Crackity), Sunday, 20 November 2005 17:39 (eighteen years ago) link

so basically, every single released in the 90's is one of the worst?

latebloomer: Do I have a large frog in my hair? (latebloomer), Sunday, 20 November 2005 18:32 (eighteen years ago) link

you could probably make a list of 86 mainstream pop singles from the '80s about as bad as this one, but you'd have to try a lot harder.

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Sunday, 20 November 2005 23:55 (eighteen years ago) link

i stand by nothing in this thread after my original post. and i only stand by about 1/2 of that, since i cant remember which were mine at this point.

strongo hulkington's ghost (dubplatestyle), Sunday, 20 November 2005 23:59 (eighteen years ago) link

one year passes...

Dear Someone With Lots Of Time On Their Hands,

Please poll this motherfucker. Preferably so we get to vote for the worst.

Lots of love,

Matt DC, Friday, 25 May 2007 13:13 (sixteen years ago) link

"A Change (Will Do You Good)" Sheryl Crow

passantino ^^DOLLAR^^^STORE^^^

and what, Friday, 25 May 2007 13:16 (sixteen years ago) link

62. the heights, ?how do you talk to an angel?

I have never heard this but the title is hilarious. Please tell me this is some sort of post-Soul Asylum/proto-Nickelback doing their Big Sensitive Ballad.

Matt DC, Friday, 25 May 2007 13:18 (sixteen years ago) link

7. oasis, ?champagne supernova?

Not a single.

Mark G, Friday, 25 May 2007 13:20 (sixteen years ago) link

it was in the States and/or Europe i think (had a video)

blueski, Friday, 25 May 2007 13:21 (sixteen years ago) link

oh my god this list makes me want to fucking kill

Curt1s Stephens, Friday, 25 May 2007 13:22 (sixteen years ago) link

34. tortoise, ?djed?

lol i know jess suggested this in reactionary second-guessing/self-hating mode & i also know its one of his favorite singles of the 90s

and what, Friday, 25 May 2007 13:23 (sixteen years ago) link

haha the only song on that list i had an immediate NO WAY reaction to was "the scatman"

gff, Friday, 25 May 2007 13:26 (sixteen years ago) link

its funny seeing all the stuff that was lazy critic punching bags back in 2002

and what, Friday, 25 May 2007 13:26 (sixteen years ago) link

these are all okay/good/great:

26. snow ?informer?
31. digable planets ?rebirth of slick?
33. the lemonheads, ?mrs. robinson?
37. lisa loeb ?stay?
42. michael jackson ?black or white?
43. meredith brooks ?bitch?
45. jamiroquai ?virtual insanity?
47. urge overkill ?girl, you?ll be a woman soon?
50. chumbawamba ?tub thumping?
52. silk ?freak me?
55. scatman john ?the scatman?
56. us3 ?cantaloop?
58. eels ?mr. e?s beautiful blues?
59. beastie boys ?bodymovin (fatboy slim remix)?
66. soundgarden, ?black hole sun?
74. vanessa williams ?save the best for last?
78. radiohead ?creep?
83. weezer ?buddy holly?
84. ll cool j ?doin it?
85. no doubt ?just a girl?

blueski, Friday, 25 May 2007 13:26 (sixteen years ago) link

is there any excuse for hating dear mama or make em say ungh

and what, Friday, 25 May 2007 13:27 (sixteen years ago) link

WHERE IS STEREOPHONICS 'A THOUSAND TREES'?

braveclub, Friday, 25 May 2007 13:28 (sixteen years ago) link

I predict the Lex likes at least 15 of these songs.

Matt DC, Friday, 25 May 2007 13:28 (sixteen years ago) link

I think that was one of mine!

The choice that makes me saddest now is #55. He brought pleasure to so many and who were we to deny it?

Groke, Friday, 25 May 2007 13:28 (sixteen years ago) link

dear mama = too cloying/trite? u wouldn't tolerate it from anyone other than a gangsta rapper? (this might be a good thing i dunno!)

blueski, Friday, 25 May 2007 13:29 (sixteen years ago) link

bweee ba ba bada bo

gff, Friday, 25 May 2007 13:29 (sixteen years ago) link

'scatman' has great pathos

blueski, Friday, 25 May 2007 13:29 (sixteen years ago) link

RIP scatman

and what, Friday, 25 May 2007 13:30 (sixteen years ago) link

I'd like to think there's a direct correlation between their placing on this list and the Rednex putting themselves up for sale on Ebay.

Matt DC, Friday, 25 May 2007 13:30 (sixteen years ago) link

Also Scatman John = voice of Blurr in Transformers the Movie. Virtually everyone in that film is dead now.

Matt DC, Friday, 25 May 2007 13:31 (sixteen years ago) link

This is about 25% stuff I still haven't heard, 25% stuff I like now and 50% stuff I still hate. I was complaining about "I Feel You" by Depeche Mode just the other day. "Yes dear" said the wife as she changed my bedpan.

Groke, Friday, 25 May 2007 13:33 (sixteen years ago) link

In 1999, he released his third and final album as Scatman John, Take Your Time. It was later revealed that he had been battling ill health since late 1998. He continued work on the album despite being told to take it easy from his substantial workload. He was later diagnosed with lung cancer and soon went into intensive treatment. He maintained a positive attitude throughout, declaring that "whatever God wants is fine by me... I've had the very best life. I have tasted beauty." He died in his Los Angeles home on December 3, 1999.

In a 1996 interview, he commented that "I hope that the kids, while they sing along to my songs or dance to it, feel that life is not that bad at all. Even for just a minute."

and what, Friday, 25 May 2007 13:34 (sixteen years ago) link

that's a popular myth re Scatman John and Blurr, Matt, but it's not actually true.

blueski, Friday, 25 May 2007 13:34 (sixteen years ago) link

56. us3 ?cantaloop?

^^ i regularly listen to this

and what, Friday, 25 May 2007 13:35 (sixteen years ago) link

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/8a/Scatultraman.jpg

and what, Friday, 25 May 2007 13:35 (sixteen years ago) link

i never understand why people hate(d) 'Informer'.

blueski, Friday, 25 May 2007 13:36 (sixteen years ago) link

i don't understand ironic love for it either (beyond Snow's nerdy appearance)

blueski, Friday, 25 May 2007 13:37 (sixteen years ago) link

You know what the fines b-side ever is?

"Crazy with love" by Guy Mitchell.

That's it. Over.

Mark G, Friday, 25 May 2007 13:38 (sixteen years ago) link

a poll of these would be interesting -- i would have a really tough time deciding which of these i hated most

gff, Friday, 25 May 2007 13:40 (sixteen years ago) link

Tom what percentage of these have you played a bosh version of at Poptimism? I can think of at least three off the top of my head.

Matt DC, Friday, 25 May 2007 13:41 (sixteen years ago) link

steve trying to save lisa loeb is MADNESS

gff, Friday, 25 May 2007 13:41 (sixteen years ago) link

What's with "Girl, You'll Be A Woman Soon" being on the list? Oh, now I see -- IT'S AN IRONIC COVER AND IT WAS IN PULP FICTION. Oh the horror.

-- Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Saturday, November 2, 2002 10:10 AM

Was it ironic? That's sort of a shame. I always saw it as quite a faithful cover, and I love their version.

hobart paving, Friday, 25 May 2007 13:42 (sixteen years ago) link

UP AGAINST THE WALL, LISA LOEB

gff, Friday, 25 May 2007 13:43 (sixteen years ago) link

she was hott

blueski, Friday, 25 May 2007 13:43 (sixteen years ago) link

i could've listed more i loved at the time but have to let them go like teh suck they are i guess

blueski, Friday, 25 May 2007 13:45 (sixteen years ago) link

being an impressionable teen in the 90s - worse than being an impressionable teen in the 80s? YES

blueski, Friday, 25 May 2007 13:45 (sixteen years ago) link

5. whitney houston ?I will always love you?

you know, I heard this the other day and didn't know why I hated it so much at the time. Okay, so she does the trademark wibbly at the end of the line thing, but other than that its a pretty respectable version. I remember thinking Dolly Parton's version pissed all over it from a great height, but listening again, Dolly's version just sounds a little...hammy...whereas Whitney actually sounds like she means it.

hobart paving, Friday, 25 May 2007 13:45 (sixteen years ago) link

being an impressionable teen in the 90s - worse than being an impressionable teen in the 80s? YES

- blueski, Friday, May 25, 2007 1:45 PM (14 seconds ago) Bookmark Link

ohhh...the 90s get FAR too much grief round here. the 80s on the other hand - be grateful you never had an A Flock Of Seagulls haircut or any of those trousers with the flecky bits in that seemed to make a horrible comeback for a bit last year.

hobart paving, Friday, 25 May 2007 13:47 (sixteen years ago) link

shouldn't Shania Twain be on that list at least twice? Or was she this decade?

hobart paving, Friday, 25 May 2007 13:48 (sixteen years ago) link

plus there's all the 80s hits we've conveniently forgotten about - the Elaine Pages and Marillions and so forth

xp

braveclub, Friday, 25 May 2007 13:49 (sixteen years ago) link

at least the FOS hairstyle wasn't boring. pretentious > boring. and i wore some equally bad trousers.

blueski, Friday, 25 May 2007 13:49 (sixteen years ago) link

the Elaine Pages and Marillions and so forth

both have at least 2 good songs lol

blueski, Friday, 25 May 2007 13:50 (sixteen years ago) link

Flock of Seagulls >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Shawn Mullins

Curt1s Stephens, Friday, 25 May 2007 13:51 (sixteen years ago) link

at least the FOS hairstyle wasn't boring. pretentious > boring. and i wore some equally bad trousers.

-- blueski, Friday, May 25, 2007 1:49 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

I still HAVE all my 90s trousers.

hobart paving, Friday, 25 May 2007 13:54 (sixteen years ago) link

Joe Bloggs?

braveclub, Friday, 25 May 2007 13:54 (sixteen years ago) link

you know, I heard this the other day and didn't know why I hated it so much at the time. Okay, so she does the trademark wibbly at the end of the line thing, but other than that its a pretty respectable version. I remember thinking Dolly Parton's version pissed all over it from a great height, but listening again, Dolly's version just sounds a little...hammy...whereas Whitney actually sounds like she means it.

Whitney is flat every time she belts the long note in the chorus.

HI DERE, Friday, 25 May 2007 13:56 (sixteen years ago) link

That's kind of immaterial to whether or not she means it though, isn't it?

Matt DC, Friday, 25 May 2007 13:58 (sixteen years ago) link

Yeah Whitney was knee-jerk dumbness on my part (if it was on my part) - it's not right but it's OK.

Groke, Friday, 25 May 2007 13:59 (sixteen years ago) link

depends if she means it to be flat

696, Friday, 25 May 2007 14:00 (sixteen years ago) link

Hasn't been mentioned yet, but...

"Oh What A Night" is the worst single of the 1990s.

With "Rockabye" by Shawn Mullins as a close contender for second, "Pepper" a distant third", and everything else is OK.

Eazy, Friday, 25 May 2007 14:01 (sixteen years ago) link

Joe Bloggs?

-- braveclub, Friday, May 25, 2007 1:54 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

I think Joe Bloggs was a late 80s horror. It just lingered into the 90s.

hobart paving, Friday, 25 May 2007 14:01 (sixteen years ago) link

Hasn't been mentioned yet, but...

"Oh What A Night" is the worst single of the 1990s.

late december, back in '63?

hobart paving, Friday, 25 May 2007 14:02 (sixteen years ago) link

So if something is now considered "ironically bad/good/kitsch" it's not going to be on here?

Jarlrmai, Friday, 25 May 2007 14:03 (sixteen years ago) link

being an impressionable teen in the 90s - worse than being an impressionable teen in the 80s? YES

- blueski, Friday, May 25, 2007 1:45 PM (14 seconds ago) Bookmark Link

YES! Being a young impressionable teen in the 90s resulted in the following:

- I LOVED "Everything About You" by Ugly Kid Joe and thought the lead singer was hot.
- I bought a Wilson Phillips CD
- I had a poster of Nelson at one point
- I was a member of *cringe* the Soul Asylum Fan Club. They sent me Christmas cards.

Luckily I kind of figured things out around 16/17 but still . . .

ENBB, Friday, 25 May 2007 14:07 (sixteen years ago) link

what a pointless poll.

but, more importantly, it's not a very good selection. too many of these tracks are, by any measure, too good to be seriously considered.

darraghmac, Friday, 25 May 2007 14:12 (sixteen years ago) link

polls with more than a dozen options don't really work i think

blueski, Friday, 25 May 2007 14:14 (sixteen years ago) link

also polls that arent polls

and what, Friday, 25 May 2007 14:16 (sixteen years ago) link

YES! Being a young impressionable teen in the 90s resulted in the following:

- I LOVED "Everything About You" by Ugly Kid Joe and thought the lead singer was hot.
- I bought a Wilson Phillips CD
- I had a poster of Nelson at one point
- I was a member of *cringe* the Soul Asylum Fan Club. They sent me Christmas cards.

Luckily I kind of figured things out around 16/17 but still . . .

-- ENBB, Friday, May 25, 2007 2:07 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

noooo...

- I bought a Big Fun record
- I actually found one of them attractive
- I don't know who Nelson is, but I had a pic of Nic Kershaw

Still reckon the 90s were worse??

hobart paving, Friday, 25 May 2007 14:17 (sixteen years ago) link

yeah, if there was a worst ten singles poll, then you might see some agreement. as it is, i can't even vote because i'm annoyed at the gratuituous inclusion of about thirty or forty pretty ace tunes.

darraghmac, Friday, 25 May 2007 14:17 (sixteen years ago) link

I was wondering who was going to go to bat for "Mambo No. 5"...

HI DERE, Friday, 25 May 2007 14:18 (sixteen years ago) link

I was wondering who was going to go to bat for "Mambo No. 5"...

surely not the 90's?

darraghmac, Friday, 25 May 2007 14:20 (sixteen years ago) link

"Mambo No. 5" is a famous mambo dance song originally recorded and composed by Pérez Prado in 1952. Interpolations from various portions of this song were formed into a new song "Mambo Number Five", which was released by Lou Bega in 1999 on his debut album A Little Bit of Mambo. It was a smash hit in the United States, United Kingdom, and Australia, where it reached #1 in 1999. It also topped almost every chart in Continental Europe, and set a record by staying at number one in France for 20 weeks (longer than any stay at the top spot ever on the US or UK charts).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mambo_No._5

HI DERE, Friday, 25 May 2007 14:22 (sixteen years ago) link

no problem with Mambo No. 5 altho i hate the Bob The Builder version cos of annoying Neil Morrissey

blueski, Friday, 25 May 2007 14:30 (sixteen years ago) link

it's almost as if i am not quite their target market

blueski, Friday, 25 May 2007 14:30 (sixteen years ago) link

i didn't think "time of your life" and the santana/rob thomas song were 90s either

gff, Friday, 25 May 2007 14:31 (sixteen years ago) link

I do have to say that I'm overjoyed that Silk is on this list. I've been making fun of that song since the day it came out.

HI DERE, Friday, 25 May 2007 14:31 (sixteen years ago) link

we're forgetting something:

http://static.flickr.com/16/91084188_5603be178f.jpg

gff, Friday, 25 May 2007 14:33 (sixteen years ago) link

80s.

HI DERE, Friday, 25 May 2007 14:34 (sixteen years ago) link

where is Tracer to rep for Vanilla's 'No Way No Way'

blueski, Friday, 25 May 2007 14:34 (sixteen years ago) link

(Specifically 89, because we played that at German camp the second summer I went.)

HI DERE, Friday, 25 May 2007 14:35 (sixteen years ago) link

santana/rob thomas was definitely dot-com 90s summer of love, along with "All Star" and "What It's Like". I was sitting in the basement of a venture capitalist's new renovated townhome, writing FAQs for his website.

Eazy, Friday, 25 May 2007 14:36 (sixteen years ago) link

"Wind of Change" is a 1990 power ballad written by Klaus Meine, vocalist of Scorpions. The lyrics celebrate the political changes in Eastern Europe at that time - such as the fall of the Berlin Wall, the increasing freedom in the communist bloc (which would soon lead to the fall of the USSR), and the clearly imminent end of the Cold War.

gff, Friday, 25 May 2007 14:36 (sixteen years ago) link

jesus christ "All Star"

Curt1s Stephens, Friday, 25 May 2007 14:38 (sixteen years ago) link

Seriously what happened in the '90s you guys?

Curt1s Stephens, Friday, 25 May 2007 14:39 (sixteen years ago) link

'Smooth' makes me think of that bar in Ally Mcbeal. FUCK DAT.

blueski, Friday, 25 May 2007 14:39 (sixteen years ago) link

guys did you know that that other not-"Smooth" Santana song was a #1 for TEN WEEKS? How did we let this happen????

Curt1s Stephens, Friday, 25 May 2007 14:40 (sixteen years ago) link

'time of your life' soundtracked the clip montage on the final episode of seinfeld in 1998

and what, Friday, 25 May 2007 14:41 (sixteen years ago) link

is gnarls barkley the 'smooth' of the 00s?

and what, Friday, 25 May 2007 14:41 (sixteen years ago) link

"Hey Ya" is

Curt1s Stephens, Friday, 25 May 2007 14:42 (sixteen years ago) link

'time of your life' soundtracked the clip montage on the final episode of seinfeld in 1998

richards was probably thinking 'nothing i do can be worse than that!'

blueski, Friday, 25 May 2007 14:42 (sixteen years ago) link

Wet Wet Wet "Love Is All Around" should be in this poll surely?

hobart paving, Friday, 25 May 2007 14:42 (sixteen years ago) link

1. 4 non geirs ?what?s up??
2. red hongro chilli peppers ?under the geir?
3. billy joel ?we didn?t start the hongro?
4. elton john ?hongroe in the wind 97?
5. whitney hongro ?I will always love geir?
6. van halen ?right geir?
7. oasis, ?champagne superhongro?
8. smashing pumpkgeirs ?tonight tonight?
9. celine dion ?my heart will geir on (theme from titanic)?
10. crash test dummies ?geir geir geir geir?
11. rem, ?radio song?
12. baz luhrman ?everybody?s hongro (to wear sunscreen)?
13. deep blue something ?breakfast at hongros?
14. spin hongros ?two geirs?
15. bryan adams ?everything I do (I do it for geir)?
16. joan osbgeir ?one of us?
17. alanis geirisette ?ironic?
18. lou bega ?mambo no. 5?
19. cranberries ?hongro?
20. u2 ?discotheque?
21. live, ?hongro crashes?
22. geir hongro band ?what would you say??
23. hootie, ?let geir cry?
24. mr. big ?to be with hongro?
25. all4geir ?I swear?
26. hongro ?informer?
27. shawn mullins ?lullaby?
28. geiry ray cyrus ?achy breaky hongro?
29. los del hongro ?Macarena?
30. barenaked geirs ?one week?
31. digable planets ?rebirth of geir?
32. Madonna ?you must love geir?
33. the lemonhongros, ?mrs. robinson?
34. tortoise, ?hongroed?
35. goldie & noel gallagher
36. geirgeir dolls ?iris?
37. lisa loeb ?stay? (i missed hongro)
38. jill sobule ?I kissed a geir?
39. color me geir ?I adore mi amore?
40. jeff buckley, ?last geirbye?
41. pearl geir ?Jeremy?
42. michael jackson ?black or geir?
43. meredith brooks ?geir?
44. ugly kid Joe, ?everything about geir?
45. jamiroquai ?virtual hongro?
46. genesis ?geir can?t dance?
47. urge overkill ?geir, you?ll be a woman soon?
48. tupac ?dear hongro?
49. greenday ?geir of your life?
50. chumbawamba ?geir thumping?
51. extreme ?more than geirs?
52. silk ?freak geir?
53. sublime ?santeria?
54. verve geir ?freshmen?
55. scatman geir ?the scatman?
56. us3 ?cantaloop?
57. counting crowes ?round geir?
58. eels ?mr. geirs beautiful blues?
59. beastie boys ?geirmovin (hongroboy slim remix)?
60. Aerosmith ? I don?t want to miss a geir?
61. arrested development ?mr hongro?
62. the heights, ?how do you talk to an hongro?
63. verve, ?the girs won?t work?
64. rednex ?cotton eye geir?
65. geir the wet sprocket ?all I want?
66. soundgeirden, ?black hole sun?
67. geir hongro, whatever that horrid fucking comeback single was
68. fugees ?no geir, no cry?
69. marcy playground ?sex and hongro?
70. offsgeir ?keep em separated?
71. master geir ?make em say ungh?
72. geir hongro blues explosion, ?talk about the blues?
73. santana feat. rob thomas ?smooth?
74. vanessa williams ?save the geir for last?
75. bad religion ? ?21st century digital geir?
76. marilyn manson ?sweet dreams (are made of geir)?
77. the geirflowers ?one headlight?
78. radiohongro ?creep?
79. geir count ?cop killer?
80. depeche mode ?I feel hongro
81. the toadies ?hongro kingdom?
82. mc hongro ?2 legit 2 quit?
83. weezer ?buddy hongro?
84. ll cool geir ?doin it?
85. no doubt ?just a geir?
86. dr. dre ?been geir, done that?

-- acrobat, Friday, May 25, 2007 2:40 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Link

and what, Friday, 25 May 2007 14:44 (sixteen years ago) link

geir hongro blues explosion

haha

Curt1s Stephens, Friday, 25 May 2007 14:45 (sixteen years ago) link

I like that not even Geir can penetrate the unstoppable force of Santana feat. Rob Thomas

Curt1s Stephens, Friday, 25 May 2007 14:46 (sixteen years ago) link

Right Said Fred - Those Simple Things/Daydream

blueski, Friday, 25 May 2007 14:47 (sixteen years ago) link

38. jill sobule ?I kissed a geir?

and what, Friday, 25 May 2007 14:47 (sixteen years ago) link

ah yes, the high level of discourse circa 2002, kudos!

bobby bedelia, Friday, 25 May 2007 14:48 (sixteen years ago) link

62. the heights, ?how do you talk to an hongro?

gff, Friday, 25 May 2007 14:49 (sixteen years ago) link

hongro no 5

and what, Friday, 25 May 2007 14:51 (sixteen years ago) link

a+

Curt1s Stephens, Friday, 25 May 2007 14:51 (sixteen years ago) link

I've heard "How Do You Talk To An Angel?" two times in the past two weeks, after not having heard it since the promo for The Heights was shown in movie theaters in '94. I heard it either at Subway or a supermarket -- must be part of a new Muzak playlist.

Eazy, Friday, 25 May 2007 15:03 (sixteen years ago) link

lol oh man this list

strongohulkington, Friday, 25 May 2007 15:09 (sixteen years ago) link

5 years ago

wtf

David R., Friday, 25 May 2007 15:22 (sixteen years ago) link

Elephant in the room on this thread:

http://www.carterusm.co.uk/photos/lianne_clickintogear.jpg

DavidM, Friday, 25 May 2007 15:47 (sixteen years ago) link

Yeah right like they were ever going to get into this list.

Matt DC, Friday, 25 May 2007 16:02 (sixteen years ago) link

who the fuck is that

Curt1s Stephens, Friday, 25 May 2007 16:02 (sixteen years ago) link

curtis otm

(even though i know)

strongohulkington, Friday, 25 May 2007 16:03 (sixteen years ago) link

"Lenny And Terence" wd fit right in Matt.

Groke, Friday, 25 May 2007 16:04 (sixteen years ago) link

Carter singles poll for tuesday

blueski, Friday, 25 May 2007 16:04 (sixteen years ago) link

i am kinda happy to see that most of these songs really are TERRIBLE

strongohulkington, Friday, 25 May 2007 16:04 (sixteen years ago) link

(tom and i also discovered that night that rock was the worst music ever, complete with hilarious scenario of uh ? the mysterians or whoever coming to our near and horrible future and looking at what they had wrought.)

lol

strongohulkington, Friday, 25 May 2007 16:06 (sixteen years ago) link

i agree that informer does not belong on that list.

s1ocki, Friday, 25 May 2007 16:10 (sixteen years ago) link

and not just because snow beat up one of my friends in high school. in fact, DESPITE it.

s1ocki, Friday, 25 May 2007 16:10 (sixteen years ago) link

replace Informer with Boombastic

Curt1s Stephens, Friday, 25 May 2007 16:11 (sixteen years ago) link

i'll always have a soft spot for informer cuz it reminds me of when i left hebrew school and decided to go to a really multi-culti junior high where i met like the first non-jewish friends in my life and discovered rap music, running shoes and reese's pieces

s1ocki, Friday, 25 May 2007 16:16 (sixteen years ago) link

very good list, but these are misses, the first especially

14. spin doctors ?two princes?
31. digable planets ?rebirth of slick?
59. beastie boys ?bodymovin (fatboy slim remix)?
68. fugees ?no woman, no cry?
78. radiohead ?creep?

also rong
* Cher "Believe"
* Public Enemy "911 is a Joke"

Informer very much belongs on this list

gabbneb, Friday, 25 May 2007 16:18 (sixteen years ago) link

that's a hell of a monday morning

xpost?

gff, Friday, 25 May 2007 16:19 (sixteen years ago) link

Boombastic > Informer though.

Matt DC, Friday, 25 May 2007 16:26 (sixteen years ago) link

Has Jesus Jones' "Right Here, Right Now" not been mentioned?

molly mummenschanz, Friday, 25 May 2007 16:28 (sixteen years ago) link

It came to mind when Songs About The Fall of the Iron Curtain came up with the Scorps, but I don't mind it. I think of "Right Here, Right Now" and "Unbelievable" as two songs that I never heard apart from each other.

Eazy, Friday, 25 May 2007 16:34 (sixteen years ago) link

ten months pass...

There's nothing wrong with "Buddy Holly" or "Black Hole Sun." Unless you hate life, of course.

billstevejim, Saturday, 29 March 2008 23:27 (sixteen years ago) link

in fact, that list is a piece of crap straight up.

darraghmac, Saturday, 29 March 2008 23:54 (sixteen years ago) link

unless you're just too cool to listen to the radio, maybe

darraghmac, Saturday, 29 March 2008 23:55 (sixteen years ago) link

Seriously, considering ILM at the time was a bunch of dudes praising the Manics and fucking Magnetic Fields

Dom Passantino, Saturday, 29 March 2008 23:57 (sixteen years ago) link

this thread is appalling. you are all a bunch of idiots.

Mr. Snrub, Sunday, 30 March 2008 00:06 (sixteen years ago) link

Indie rock guilt is so stupid. Why be guilty of music you used to like?

Herman G. Neuname, Sunday, 30 March 2008 00:30 (sixteen years ago) link

Tom and Jess coming up with that list:

http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/images/homepage/2303_jewel_header.jpg

Dom Passantino, Sunday, 30 March 2008 00:32 (sixteen years ago) link

I like some of the songs on this list (“More Than Words” is just a great tune!) but it's still quite funny. Lots of hate for college rock gone pop stuff.

Bodrick III, Sunday, 30 March 2008 00:36 (sixteen years ago) link

You also missed out Fun Lovin' Criminals' "Scooby Snacks" or whatever it was called.

-- N. (nickdastoor), Saturday, 2 November 2002 16:23

Hahaha... I expected this on there as well.

Bodrick III, Sunday, 30 March 2008 00:37 (sixteen years ago) link

"or whatever it was called." = "Errr... not that I would know, of course."

Bodrick III, Sunday, 30 March 2008 00:40 (sixteen years ago) link

paul jewell porn arghhhhhhhhhhh

Herman G. Neuname, Sunday, 30 March 2008 00:42 (sixteen years ago) link

What about the Wedding Present as they neared the end of their "hit parade" experiment (and running out of inspiration/money)? They could pretty much release anything at that stage and it would be a Top 40 hit, with something like "Shaft", or the theme from "Twin Peaks" on the B Side.

JTS, Sunday, 30 March 2008 12:12 (sixteen years ago) link

Wait Dom you don't like the Magnetic Fields? I thought you were all about lame indie shit like that?

Matt DC, Sunday, 30 March 2008 12:35 (sixteen years ago) link

Why be guilty of music you used to like?

even if it was Pearl Jam and Stone Temple Pilots?

blueski, Sunday, 30 March 2008 12:53 (sixteen years ago) link

I'm not embarrassed to have liked Pearl Jam. Infact i still like those records. Always hated Stone Temple Pilots(apart from that 1 song that sounded like Redd Kross). ST always seem more liked on ILM than PJ for some reason.

Or are you admitting you like Pearl Jam and STP and feel guilty?

Herman G. Neuname, Sunday, 30 March 2008 13:25 (sixteen years ago) link

the latter

blueski, Sunday, 30 March 2008 13:28 (sixteen years ago) link

i think i just picked completely the wrong year to get into US rock but it coiuldn't really be helped

blueski, Sunday, 30 March 2008 13:29 (sixteen years ago) link

Wait Dom you don't like the Magnetic Fields? I thought you were all about lame indie shit like that?

-- Matt DC, Sunday, 30 March 2008 12:35 (1 hour ago) Bookmark Link

I like pussy indie shit, not lame indie shit.

Dom Passantino, Sunday, 30 March 2008 14:27 (sixteen years ago) link

Ahh blueski I think you're a (good?)few years younger than I am so im sure you can be excused for liking that stuff in your early teens. I liked U2 at that age. And i've no guilt, even though I've hated their last few albums with a passion.

Herman G. Neuname, Sunday, 30 March 2008 15:01 (sixteen years ago) link

Was the sweetest thing a 90s single? if so that's one of the worst(of any decade)

Herman G. Neuname, Sunday, 30 March 2008 15:35 (sixteen years ago) link

it was an 80s b-side and a 90s a-side. go figure.

unless you're talking about Refugee Camp Allstars 'The Sweetest Thing' which was pretty good (it's OK i know you're not)

blueski, Sunday, 30 March 2008 16:57 (sixteen years ago) link

ten years pass...

Worst use of breathy singing.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 24 May 2018 02:03 (five years ago) link


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