Star Wars: The Disney+ Empire Strikes Again and Again and...

Well, a lot going on here.

Rangers of the New Republic, a new Original Series set within the timeline of @TheMandalorian, is coming to @DisneyPlus. pic.twitter.com/YKlWJpvhAW

— Disney (@Disney) December 10, 2020

Ahsoka, a new Original Series, starring @RosarioDawson and set within the timeline of @TheMandalorian, is coming to @DisneyPlus. pic.twitter.com/ZojpCkhPS7

— Disney (@Disney) December 10, 2020

“Everything I did, I did for the Rebellion.” Andor, an Original Series set in the Star Wars universe, is streaming in 2022 on #DisneyPlus. pic.twitter.com/q2IT2qzEeR

— Star Wars (@starwars) December 10, 2020

Hayden Christensen returns as Darth Vader, joining Ewan McGregor in OBI-WAN KENOBI. The Original Series begins 10 years after the dramatic events of Revenge of the Sith, and is coming to #DisneyPlus. pic.twitter.com/9WR2npRUkk

— Star Wars (@starwars) December 10, 2020

A sneak peek at Star Wars: The Bad Batch, an all-new animated Original Series from Lucasfilm Animation, coming soon to #DisneyPlus pic.twitter.com/V0jQc4XNIe

— Star Wars (@starwars) December 10, 2020

Star Wars: Visions, an Original Series of animated short films, celebrates the @StarWars galaxy through the lens of the world’s best Japanese anime creators. Coming in 2021 to @DisneyPlus. pic.twitter.com/syUmiL7SdI

— Disney (@Disney) December 10, 2020

The galaxy’s favorite scoundrel, Lando Calrissian, will return in Lando, a brand-new event series for @DisneyPlus. Justin Simien (@JSim07) is in the early stages of developing the project.

— Disney (@Disney) December 10, 2020

Leslye Headland brings a new @StarWars series to @DisneyPlus with The Acolyte. “The Acolyte” is a mystery-thriller that will take viewers into a galaxy of shadowy secrets and emerging dark-side powers in the final days of the High Republic era.

— Disney (@Disney) December 10, 2020

Lucasfilm Animation is teaming up with Lucasfilm’s visual effects team, Industrial Light & Magic, to develop a special @StarWars adventure for @DisneyPlus, A Droid Story. This epic journey will introduce us to a new hero guided by R2-D2 and C-3PO.

— Disney (@Disney) December 10, 2020

dear fucking god

Plus Taiki Waititi's thing and Patty Jenkins is doing this:

pic.twitter.com/e3N00xCr5i

— Patty Jenkins (@PattyJenks) December 10, 2020

sadlol

All of the upcoming Star Wars/Lucasfilm projects #DisneyInvestorDay pic.twitter.com/ipP8uTxdbT

— DiscussingFilm (@DiscussingFilm) December 10, 2020

I'm skeptical they'll manage to give each of these a distinct feel rather than following the proven Mando formula. I think I'd be more excited if there was one or two series in development rather than a half dozen.

Remember when 15 or 16 years would pass without a new Star Wars thing, that was pretty tight in retrospect

Well, depending on the media. That Timothy Zahn book in 1991 kickstarting the run of novels and the various 90s computer games were keeping interest pretty high.

I remember as a young fan in the 80s/early 90s being convinced there'd never be another proper Star Wars thing...

xpost

average convo in a Gen X household in Dec

"bought $100 worth of Star Wars toys"

"oh, the kids will love that..."

"right....the kids..."

I hope, completely and unironically, that the Rangers of the New Republic series does nothing but remake old CHiPs episodes, and somehow stars Estrada, Wilcox, Dorn and Chris Pine's dad.

Yyyyyyyyeah, mandalorian is one thing as a fun retro treat but fuck if I’m clearing out a fucking mall size space in my memory palace for this avalanche of trademarks.

misread one of the projects as Star Wars: The Bad Bitch

wait the Obi-Wan show is gonna have Hayden Christiansen as Darth?

wtf - JEJ is still gonna do the voice, presumably, so....are they just paying him to walk around in the costume?

xp Me too

Supposedly he's retired from doing the voice, but I don't know if that was just a rumor or not. At the least there's been no handoff as with Chewie yet.

oh god if Hayden does the voice

Darth "Stoned" Vader

this is a controversial opinion, but I think this is too much star wars

A Lando show is just too good, man i loved me some Solo.

Star Wars: The Bad Bitch

yeah gonna be a lot of demands for this now - Sy Snootles finally getting her due

this is like when as a teenager I went to a bookstore in the 90s and saw dozens of star wars books. Suddenly something I like becomes way too much and not something I want to keep track of.

The Star Wars franchise should just be non-stop announcements of things that are never delivered.

every single one of these things is going to feature a puppet baby version of a preexisting character

Baby Palpatine

I can't believe this shit

Man, even as a huge fan of Star Wars, this is too much. And I really miss the days when this was all slowly revealed, not spat out in one massive investor call data dump.

Baby Jabba

Baby Palpatine

This would ... rule?

I'm pretty cool with just continuing to treat the pre-Disney material and the Filoniverse as the only SW stuff worth paying attention to. Granted, wrt the latter that would still have me on the hook for half of these new shows.

I feel like there's a very real chance "The Acolyte" will have baby Sheev.

there's gonna be a movie about how Sheev conceived his son

called Palp Fiction

*Friction

Sheev's Gotta Have It

Droid Six

The Emperor's New Groove

Imperial Bedroom

Sidious Kinky

holy shit a+

Why would anyone come onto a thread to express negative thoughts about Disney properties

http://i.pinimg.com/originals/c6/3f/33/c63f33f578bb17f7be8f96d6f9822b61.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yix_9g_Ob74

Kind of interesting article (with a minor spoiler about future plans, if you haven't finished The Mandalorian yet): https://variety.com/2020/tv/news/disney-star-wars-marvel-studios-1234866986/

I'm just going to post this now because I can see that I'm going to get a lot of requests -

Yes, Rian's SW trilogy is still on. No dates or timelines because he has other projects going on, but it is happening.

THAT IS ALL I KNOW ABOUT IT. 😁😁😁

— Sariah Wilson (@sariahwilson) February 16, 2021

Not sure where this goes (it’s not tv or movie related, but relevant): https://www.washingtonpost.com/entertainment/books/star-wars-high-republic-novels/2021/02/22/adbb4338-72e3-11eb-85fa-e0ccb3660358_story.html

The incredible cast includes Ewan McGregor, Hayden Christensen, Moses Ingram, Joel Edgerton, Bonnie Piesse, Kumail Nanjiani, Indira Varma, Rupert Friend, O’Shea Jackson Jr., Sung Kang, Simone Kessell and Benny Safdie. pic.twitter.com/VltHs5Aw6r

— Star Wars (@starwars) March 29, 2021

that is a pick names out of a hat cast there

Hayden C. unrecognizable in that pic

lol Benny really sticking out there

cast certainly is... incredible...

Edgerton returning as Uncle Owen. Nice. (and uh, Bonnie Piesse as Beru)

So is Christensen gonna be running around sans mask and Scarred Eggplant Man makeup through most of this or will he be wearing full Vader gear? Which, if it’s Full Vader, means *anyone* could’ve played The Dark Lord. The mind boggles. Also, looking forward to more blue milk gags.

Yeah - cool to see the "ROTS" Owen x Beru team back

xpost I assume it'll be like the scene in Empire where we briefly saw the back of Vader's helmet-free noggin only this time we'll briefly get to see the front, as well.

Benny Safdie?!?

the second lead of Good Time, who's also in the new PTA?

I suspect Kenobi will be seeing a lot of Anakin's screwed up face in his dreams or some fucked up Force projection (as per Luke in TLJ). Hard to see how any direct confrontation with the real DV could be good in this.

Yeah - as someone in that Twitter thread commented, it feels like it would be weird for Obi-Wan to encounter Vader before ANH. Has that happened in the comics or anything?

Recently got through most of The Clone Wars over the last few months and ended up really enjoying those smart, tense final four episodes from the last season and how it links with events in ROTS.

psyched to see Benny Safdie play Anakin's long lost mentally disabled brother

Can we also get him to direct an episode pls

sic yeah but in a Star Wars TV show? seems a little off-brand

Edgerton returning as Uncle Owen. Nice. (and uh, Bonnie Piesse as Beru)

After her turn in The Vow as the one of that whole bunch who figured out it was crap near the start and got out, hey, bring her back!

xp if they could make Werner Herzog work...

I just wound up watching the various Star Wars animations over the last month or so. ON Clone Wars season 5, finished Rebels and Resistance.
I noticed there seemed to be a problem with the timeline between teh end of Rebels and Mandalorian assumed Rebels should be canon to Mandalorian. BUt something a little off. Won't say more cos may be too much spoiler.

Found Resistance quite amusing and liked the animation. So wouldn't mind more of it or more done by the team working on it.

Haven't finished Clone Wars and only realised that Season 7 was made several years after the bulk of it recently. have only watched the first 2 episodes of that so far. Assumed since there was a gap it wouldn't be too much of a spoiler to the last few seasons of the earlier stuff.

S6 and S7 of Clone Wars are definitely worthwhile - especially the last one - mostly dedicated to trying the series into the timeline of Revenge of the Sith. There are some plot threads from S6 that pay off in S7, so I don't know if would just skip it. Those last two seasons are short, anyway.

Well went back to S5 anyway

Anyway, the batch, it is bad.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsOmYpP4UDU

looks like shit

They pop up earlier in Clone Wars, is that the 1st 2 episodes of S7?
Obviously long hair is supposed to be a Rambo.
Did hope it had some merit, could have been something semi worthwhile but also could just be a toy tie in.
There have been gropups like this that have been interesting in terms of tensions etc but probably just going to be gung ho and very puerile.

Those are the same characters from the beginning of S7. Thought that arc was OK so I'm down for this. Plus, more Fennec!

There is something about the style of animation of these Star Wars series that makes them unwatchable to me. I'm not sure what it is, too much in the video-game cutscene circa mid 00s style maybe. It's just ugly to me.

The visual style of the Star Wars cartoons always reminds me of that movie Antz.

I found the animation style on The Clone Wars to be a nigh-insurmountable barrier to entry for years. I'm glad I finally pushed through my aesthetic objections because it's the best filmed SW thing since The Empire Strikes Back imo. And the animation improves considerably as the show progresses.

I see there's another character from the Clone Wars Bad Batch story arc that is now part of the team.

Same for me, OL. In fact, watching this trailer now, I'm thinking it looks great visually, whereas five years ago I probably wouldn't have thought much of it! I'll watch this

First episode of The Bad Batch was actually pretty good

i guess technically they couldn't call it Clone Wars Season 8, given that the wars end in the first episode, but that's what it is

Yeah both of the first two episodes were sharp, I thought. My hope is that we move from specific callbacks/return appearances more.

this is most insane thing ive seen on tik tok pic.twitter.com/8RREvCvqEe

— chris (ツ) (@Iameaschris) May 9, 2021

glad that's getting around, it's incredible

My first reaction was "that's hilarious" but then I started to feel it was actually pretty mean

It's creative and well executed, but a lot of work for a "haha Star Wars nerds don't have girlfriends" joke that was stale 15 years ago.

he deserved memification, but why add public mockery to poor brittany's suffering?

i know i posted it in the star wars thread but this guy's delivery was what deserved memeification, the sci-fi context is almost purely incidental to the cringe

Okay I'll admit that I didn't even consider that the first one was earnest until now. I assumed the entire thing was a joke.

Guess I’m officially too old, I cannot parse the layers of meta-textuality or whatever is going on.

Okay I'll admit that I didn't even consider that the first one was earnest until now.

If the original video was a goof I retract my claim that it was mean but I assumed they were all making fun of an awkward guy in a "so not gonna happen" kind of way

I have no idea! I'm just so skeptical of viral stuff that I assume everything is a bit. I didn't even think about the possibility that the original video was earnest.

So anyway who else has been watching Bad Batch regularly? While the feature-not-bug of the galaxy apparently consisting of twenty people that keep running into each other remains in full effect, the show’s set up some great visuals and set pieces and the easy chemistry of the Batch and Omega always charms. Last week’s episode and this week’s were both really sharp, all the sneaking around ruins and firing up old equipment like the cruiser engine.

Yeah I’m enjoying it. Big credit to Dee Bradley Baker who’s basically voicing every single character.

I (ahem) might be in the process of chronologically working my through the prequel-era novels and comics atm, so a rewatch of TCW followed by TBB is impending.

I like it more than I expected based on how I felt about them in the clone wars appearance, but I always like the filling in of details about timelines between films and what I know

With the bounty hunter connections and the bandages i was wondering if somehow crosshair ends up as dengar because while I realize the character most likely has a complete existing backstory I know nothing about it

Just caught up. Yup, Bad Batch is good stuff, happy to have it.

And one Bad Batch episode to go, with a second season already in the works. It's pretty generally clear what the final episode will involve, I'd guess -- last minute escape, off to new adventures, etc etc. -- but it's been a nice little resolving on what happened with Kamino exactly in classic 'hm, yeah, let's tie that up' fashion with the SW universe. Read a little guess or two that this could also tie in long term with some of the bio research stuff we saw in The Mandalorian, who knows? Anyway, good first season, look forward to the next.

So Bad Batch ended well enough and we'll see about next season. Enjoyed some of the big set pieces over the last couple of episodes, and the teaser/cliffhanger of sorts ending, I like it.

Meantime, next month

Reimagine the galaxy with #StarWarsVisions, an Original Series featuring stories from seven visionary Japanese anime studios, streaming September 22 on #DisneyPlus. pic.twitter.com/YfeBv5Lpru

— Disney+ (@disneyplus) August 17, 2021

“The Duel” — Animated by Kamikaze Douga, who also made the Batman Ninja movie. The voice cast includes: Brian Tee (Ronin), Lucy Liu (Bandit Leader), Jaden Waldman (Village Chief).
“Lop and Ochō” — Animated by Twin Engine’s Geno Studio. Voice cast: Anna Cathcart (Lop), Hiromi Dames (Ocho), Paul Nakauchi (Yasaburo), Kyle McCarley (Imperial Officer).
“Tatooine Rhapsody” — Animated by Twin Engine’s Studio Colorido, who also did the movie adaptation of Burn the Witch. Cast: Joseph Gordon-Levitt (Jay), Bobby Moynihan (Geezer), Temuera Morrison (Boba Fett), Shelby Young (K-344), Marc Thompson (Lan).
“The Twins” — Animated by TRIGGER, known for Tenga Toppen Gurren Laggen, Kill la Kill, Promare, and many other anime. The voice cast includes: Neil Patrick Harris (Karre), Alison Brie (Am), Jonathan Lipow (B-20N)
“The Elder” — Also by TRIGGER! The voice cast: David Harbour (Tajin), Jordan Fisher (Dan), James Hong (The Elder)
“The Village Bride” — Kinema Citrus. The voice cast includes: Karen Fukuhara (F), Nichole Sakura (Haru), Christopher Sean (Asu), Cary-Hiroyuki Tagawa (Valco), Andrew Kishino (Izuma), Stephanie Sheh (Saku).
“Akakiri” — Animated by Science Saru, who made the incredible Keep Your Hands of Eizouken! TV series. Voice cast: Henry Golding (Tsubaki), Jamie Chung (Misa), George Takei (Senshuu), Keone Young (Kamahachi), and Lorraine Toussaint (Masago).
“T0-B1” — Also by Science Saru. The cast includes Jaden Waldman (T0-B1) and Kyle Chandler (Mitaka).
“The Ninth Jedi” — By Production I.G, which has done Ghost in the Shell, Psycho Pass, Moriarty the Patriot, and so much more. The voice cast includes: Kimiko Glenn (Kara), Andrew Kishino (Juro), Simu Liu (Zhima), Masi Oka (Ethan), Greg Chun (Roden), Neil Kaplan (Narrator), Michael Sinterniklaas (Hen Jin).

ahhh two shorts by TRIGGER is truly a gift

I hope there’s at least an option for Japanese language tracks

Well, Star Wars: Visions is out, there is an option for Japanese tracks, burned through them all yesterday and that was a damned good effort all around. The various behind the scenes short videos for each are also good to watch. I don't know I have a specific favorite given the stylistic and thematic range but the two TRIGGER shorts are great for sure. Absolutely loved "Tatooine Rhapsody," and was especially interested in "The Ninth Jedi" since Kenji Kamiyama's on deck for the LOTR anime in a couple of years, and clearly he's on a good roll here.

Will definitely give credit to Science SARU for having two of the most tonally different shorts as well.

Why yes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOJ1cw6mohw

Gonna wait to watch this one with the kid at home tonight, he was just asking when this was on the way.

I totally forgot about this whole thing. (No Mando costumes last night; saw a few good other SW ones, though.)

So Boba remains Fetting re the first episode -- pretty logical extension of The Mandalorian's general tone but I appreciated the even sparser dialogue approach. Plus Matt Berry playing a droid because why not.

it was pretty good
fight scenes were kinda bland & overly choreo’d but that is my only ~slight~ negative, not a dealbreaker

Found it so dull I frequently found myself looking at other things in the room. No connection to the supposed “no disintegrations” contract killer he was supposed to be.

He was a younger, more impulsive Fett then

Fettlife

Not much “magic of Star Wars” in ep 1 for me (low midichlorian count?)

Boba Fett is definitely a character I am not v.interested in getting to know - he was best as a mysterious badass and not sure this show can do anything but diminish what was cool about him in the first place.

But I watched it happily enough.

This Was Fine. Rodriguez direction goes a long way for me.

It replicates the texture and atmosphere of The Mandolorian well enough, but is sadly lacking a central dynamic anywhere near as compelling as Mando & Child. Temura Morrison is not the most charismatic actor. I'll carry on watching though.

Pivoting

This character is cool because you know nothing about him

to

This character is cool because you now know everything about him

Is a tough ask.

Couldn't stop thinking he was Bezos Fett

Emsworth otm

I bet it will get better too

We all enjoyed it

Watching this now, a few beers in… I LOL’d as soon as it cut to the in-Sarlaac footage.

The Sarlaac looked extremely easy to bust out of.

Yes, like hey Stormtrooper with the full body armour and the air supply Fett needed …

shit sorry I don’t know how to spoiler tag, but I guess not egregious

Even having watched the episode, there are certain plot points I would appreciate having “spoiled” (as they make little sense).

It seemed this focused more on the action and especially choreographed fight sequences, which were handled rather expertly I thought.

funny how Luke was so concerned about sandpeople when there were 6 legged spoilersauruses chillin an inch below the surface

spoiler: Luke was racist

*thinks back to original film's dialogue*

LUKE: "Sandpeople! Or worse."

*concludes the 'or worse' covers spoilersauruses, sues Neanderthal for slander*

Hot take

choreographed fight sequences, which were handled rather expertly I thought.

The fighting was so slow!! omg, I was laughing

I mean, do we remember the first light saber fight in the SW universe

like it was yesterday. "oh my goodness, a lightsaber! ... or worse"

I don’t even care about Star Wars but the fact that they made Patton Oswalt’s fillibuster fan fic story from Parks and Rec and actual thing in Book of Boba Fett is amazing! pic.twitter.com/MvwSWvSryk

— Ashley's feeling 2022 🍾🍾 (@craftyashley_) December 30, 2021

lol that rules

Holy shit, lmao

Exactly my first thought when Fett burst out of the sand was that P&R scene.

That is really funny

I guess even "official" SW is at least 1/3 in-joke at this point

So this new episode was mostly full on deep original film lore shit and I loved every second of it.

:D i cant wait

very excited to watch!

No spoilers of course and the templates throughout are, how you say, obvious/resonant, but basically you just learn a hell of a lot about Tatooine and those who live there, and it's handled really well.

Though I *will* say it's also pretty interesting due to the sheer accident of timing that this is running just a couple of months after Dune made a big splash.

Oh and check the end credits for the cast carefully. There is some REALLY deep original film lore shit going on, trust me.

Didnt think this show was gonna have boba going on a spirit journey to make his own gaffi stick but i guess everybody gets a backstory these days

this was ok, still a bit drab? i also feel lightly outraged that Boba Fett saying “tricky little bugger” is now canon

When are we getting an Ewoks series?

But we already did! :-D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQLpoy37LL8

This was great fun and very weird. Much less "Buck Rogers"-y (as in the 80s TV series) than the first episode - I'm still not into the casting of very "Special Guest Star" tv types in minor roles on these shows. They feel like they've walked off a Donny & Marie skit.

https://i.imgur.com/yVwPAM6.png

I enjoyed this episode! and without spoiling: showcases the worst most unpleasant method of getting high that i have seen #justsayno

not really familiar with the wider universe & had to look up stuff afterwards but it wasnt a hindrance to my enjoyment of the episode

I dug this episode. Like emsowrth upthread, I was a little worried about this show pulling back whatever veil of mystery remained with Fett and over-explaining everything, but this has been a pretty fun ride so far. My 10 year-old, absolutely loves it and has already proclaimed it "better than Mandalorian". I'm not exactly onboard with that sentiment just yet, but it definitely helps my enjoyment to watch him geek out over it.

once again, the theme music is fuckin' great

my god this is great

I thought this episode was fairly boring, and parts were just ridiculous, but my kid seemed really into it. This show seems good for kids. The assault on the train was cool.

Pleasantly surprised to see Nat from Yellowjackets show up in this, even if she was dressed like she walked off the set of that show straight onto this one. Her little gang and their Vespa speeders were so goofy though! lol

Still not sure if I’m sold on this show yet but it’s keeping my attention at least

That whole hover moped sequence was cringingly bad

I still don't get why Fett wants to be Don Tatooine in the first place – rather than, say, going anywhere else; finding Han Solo and kicking his ass; etc. (was this made clear at the end of The Mandalorian S2)? I imagine his "motivation" will also come into focus as the flashbacks slowly progress...

He was a bounty hunter like Jango. You can only climb so high hunting the bounties yourself, so it's natural he'd get into management.

the show is about Peter Principle

also the near-death experience in the sarlacc pit and forced time with the tusken raiders has given him this new interest in justice. the Tatooine daimyo seems to have more power than the mayor in shaping daily life for those living there. he disagrees with the Hutt way and wants to change things. perhaps he also enjoys the respect.

Plus, hanging around with space mopeds. (Quadrophrenia mixed with a guy wanting to dress like Doctor Who?)

Anyway, Danny Trejo.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_IXzU-lnLU

xpost Boba don't text

Lads i think this show sucks

one long scooter ad

How did he know those guys who rode by on the speeders were bullies & thugs whom he could justifiably beat up and jack their gear?

i love this show so much and enjoyed this episode a lot

but that was the SLOWEST goddamn chase i have ever watched lmao

I was thinking that but I also kinda liked it for that reason? It made it weirdly more tense!

how long until disney makes palpatine a good guy

you either die a villain, or live long enough to see yourself become the hero

seeing some theories floating about: chiefly why the Drash character, played by American Sophie Thatcher, is British i.e. she could be either Rey's mother/related to Palpatine, or Kenobi's daughter/granddaughter. I hate this shit already.

that chase reminded me of the early Harry Potter quidditch match scenes, and not in a good way.

Drash just has the same virus Leia had at the start of Episode IV it will wear off.

Drash got a droid's british accent to do proper ultraviolence on her scooteries with the droogs

Quite jarring to hear a London accent in a Star War - Englishers in it are usually incredibly posh.

(Even ones raised as parentless dessert urchins)

*desert

Watto:
"Chut! Chut! Gando doe wallya. Uni panna cotta." (Watch the store. I have some dessert urchin to eat.)

My kids actually caught the subtle Peli Motto (Mandalorian season character) cameo that was in the background of one shot. https://screenrant.com/book-boba-fett-mandalorian-amy-sedaris-peli-motto-cameo/

The chase had to be quite deliberately covering all the cliches - halfway through when they got to the two guys carrying a big thing across the street, I was like “ok, now where is the cart of watermelons” and then there it was. My husband also thinks the scooters were a Quadrophenia reference. The. design of the one with all the redundant mirrors on the front convinced me too.

After seeing a prior attempt of Boba Fett’s to be a leader, where he leaves for a negotiation and it ends up being an utter tactical failure, it’s pretty funny that in the present he’s recruiting teens.

those teens must think it's so lame that none of his fancy mando parts are actually integrated into his biomass

Can't wait to watch this, sounds swell!

Stephen Root was the only glimmer of interest in this episode

Among everything else, the contrast btw the gravity of the flashbacks and goofiness of the “present-day” scenes in not a sign of a good show

Enjoyed this piece -- the author is Native American.

https://gizmodo.com/how-the-book-of-boba-fett-evolved-star-wars-view-of-the-1848361263

Ep 4 certainly answered the questions about why he ditched hunting and became daimyo.

also, lots of "I am Bóba Fett" not Boba Fétt

This week’s episode was a pleasant surprise!

Forgive the thread spam, but I wanted to note that all the ding dang star wars shows what aired in 2021 are nominated in the ILX TV poll, with voting ending this weekend:

ILX's Best Television of 2021 Poll / VOTING AND CAMPAIGNING THREAD / Voting Ends After January 31, 2022

If you like this show and you'd like to see it have a good showing in the poll (running in February) all you need to do is submit a ballot including it and your other favorites (3 minimum, 25 maximum, ranked by your favorite to least favorite) to forksclovetofu at gmail. It'll take five minutes; get to it!

Mostly this episode highlighted how much more I now like SPOILER than Bobba. The ringworld was sick, but could've used a few parks.

I used to date a jawa

omg

this episode <3

Yeah that was good all around, both on the serious and fun tip. Nice how it seems to partially set up a third season of something else.

cranking that fan service dial up to 1000%

I mean, this entire series is 1000% fan service from the jump, so that seems an odd complaint. I'd argue that the entire Disney+ series ecosystem (Marvel, Star Wars) exists solely as fan service.

It just feels like it's losing momentum with each episode, though I guess that's not a common complaint.

that wasn’t a complaint! i’m a fan and i appreciated the service

Sorry, I think I'm just so used to people using "fan service" as a pejorative that I made a faulty assumption.

Wait so Grogu shows up? Guess I gotta watch the rest of this mess. We gave up after ep 2, where they got into a fight with some people riding on a train for no good reason.

where they got into a fight with some people riding on a train for no good reason.

This is.. not what happened? A spice syndicate was passing by on a train, shooting at (and killing a couple of) the Tusken Raiders that Boba Fett had been captured by. He led an attack on the train in revenge.

Seemed to me a train was driving by and the tuskans were shooting at it. Why would the spice traders randomly open fire on the tuskans from a train?

I thought it was pretty clear that the spice traders had attacked them multiple times in the past, to the point that the Tuskens had somewhat of watch out for the train so they could be ready to fire back and defend themselves.

I’m pretty sure that shooting at native peoples from a train for the hell of it, or due to some past conflict, isn’t something the show writers invented

Yeah this point was totally clear

Sure. I don't want to shit on this show, but y'all are nuts if you think this is good TV. Especially when you compare it to the Mandolorian.

I mean, I don't care if you hate it, but your terrible description of basic plot points leads me to believe you barely paid attention to what was on the screen.

That is possible. It was not engaging.

A reason people are a little prickly about this is that the reference points are obvious and very ugly
https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/features/tcrr-native-americans-and-transcontinental-railroad/

This is not a hill I want to die on, but that is a story about clashes between railroad builders and Native Americans. Boba Fett had a story about dudes zooming through a landscape (why are they not just flying in the air? Who knows?) taking potshots at Tuskan Raiders for unexplained reasons other than that they are assholes. Seems like a shaky parallel to me, but if that was their intent, fine.

I believe they are shooting at them because they are raiders. Perhaps flight is expensive for the amount or weight of cargo. Or maybe a train is safer for transporting illegal stuff.

DJI, i'm sympathetic to your desire to not read too much into a space chambara but i do think the parallels with genuine aboriginal v colonizer wars - whether american or elsewhere - were clearly intentional
https://gizmodo.com/how-the-book-of-boba-fett-evolved-star-wars-view-of-the-1848361263

that said, i stopped on the second episode and - though I'll likely go back - I've found this notably less charming and clever than the mando and baby yoda program. not really sure why, except that neither temuera or ming-na haven't been much fun to watch.

they are both v low-key actors & the pacing of Boba Fett series is a lot slower than Mando seemed

to my memory anyway

But the thing is I'm loving practically every minute of it.

I hope the Obi-Wan series is better, but GD do I have Tatooine burnout

I thought the attack on the train was a Lawrence of Arabia reference, though it's been a long time since I saw it.

What a great episode
Baby F’in Greedo!
“I used to date a jawa…”

xxposts to Ned: same!

but when SPOILER showed up i was like aaaaaaahhhhh omg i missed u boo

The original Mando series had to prove Star Wars could work as a TV serial without sacrificing any of the production quality and visual imagination while finding new ways to expand the types of stories that could exist within the Star Wars mythos. This lent a dimension of danger to the weekly unfolding of each episode, even if the overarching motif was still that of marrying two ultimately conservative forms: the Western and the Space Opera. It seems, at least so far, Boba has doubled down on the more conservative aspects of the Mando series - more of a burrowing into a small section of the mythos than a pushing outward of the envelope.

Mandy was also (mostly) fun, even when it was junky fun. Fett isn’t much fun, IMO, not sure why

o nate - yeah that seems right

i love the digging-in aspect of it, i think bc slow pacing is not as common in these kinds of shows it is good that there’s a lot of room to explore

also i know its been a thing w this character for ages now but it occurred to me just the other day that it is so powerful that Morrison uses his native accent & is not having to do some kind of generic american accent or something

I hope the Obi-Wan series is better, but GD do I have Tatooine burnout

Oh god, so much this. With such an expansive universe, I'm over Tatooine. But I'm sure Obi-Wan will spend at least some time there.

we all need to appreciate that Favreau+Dis wrote a script that let the Star Wars universe have Jerri Blank

There's been at least one thing in each episode I've enjoyed, but overall, this Boba Fett season has felt kind of flat

I'm more of a Star Trek person than Star Wars, but I think for TV that is basically aimed at the enteral 12 year old, The Mandolorian/Boba Fett has been pretty cool.

I've been both Star Wars and Star Trek but have been slowly rebranding as a Dune guy

Still, too much sand on these Star Wars shows

sand wars: the series

Tatooine is like Smallville in the old Superboy comics; a sleepy backwater where thrilling adventures constantly happen, out of narrative necessity.

Just wanna say it was extremely cool to see a torus space cityscape in this.

I hope the Obi-Wan series is better, but GD do I have Tatooine burnout

Good job the Mandalorian featured several other planets! Which were mostly indistinguishable from Tatooine.

I've been both Star Wars and Star Trek but have been slowly rebranding as a Dune guy

Star Wars seems to be rebranding as a Dune guy as well.

Considering finally watching Zardoz to decide whether I could be a Zardoz guy

in terms of your personal style? I'd say yes, absolutely!

oh man, the latest episode reminded me of just how much I love Star Wars <3

The Mandalorian s3: The Book of Boba Fett: Return of Glup Shitto

I really didn’t need more Luke Skywalker, but training that stubborn little green guy was kind of fun

drake recoils: luke and grogu
drake approves: cad fucking bane

ughhhh going to have to go back to avoiding this thread since we aren't using spoiler tags

I used the wrong tag. Sorry, jon!

I mean just as much my fault for clicking on the thread before we watched, I should know better (actually forgot it was already Wednesday earlier!).

A lot going on. Didn't feel like it was just 47 minutes!

Too many shifts of focus and not enough story. Bit of a mess. The lack of Boba Fett in the last few episodes suggests they realised it was a rubbish idea to make a show about Boba Fett halfway through production and panicked.

...and way too soon for the return of Groggu. Displays a not very Jedi-like lack of patience.

I think of it really as
The Mandalorian s3: The Book of Boba Fett
and then in a smaller subtitle
The Return of Glup Shitto

good bits: timothy olyphant, grogu cheesy training montage, and yes cad fucking bane

bad bits: CGI luke (lol @ not showing him speaking as much as possible so that we don't see just how incredibly bad the audio/cgi sync is), bringing back ahsoka to do absolutely nothing, trying to figure out whether this is still boba fett: origins

my thoughts: lol fooled u haven't seen it but u smell bad and should feel bad

fair

why is call all destroyer in this?

I am really picky about this shit and I thought that in most shots chi Luke was a vast improvement over previous attempts - if minimizing the up close dialogue enhanced the effect then GOOD. These people are artists, not wizards. As far as Ahsoka, in the plot sense I took it as her continuing her connection to Grogu by overseeing his transition and looking out for him a little, despite not taking him on herself. In the practical sense I think she was included #1 for fan service and #2 just to introduce her character to any viewers who somehow haven’t watched Clone Wars, Rebels, or Mando. Those people might exist.

sorry chi = cgi

The io9 types have been venting about this episode’s ending which is kinda funny because Bleeding Cool pointed out something rather relevant they missed.

As in io9 writers or commenters? There are a few sharp minds in both, but not enough to keep me going to that site these days

I will say the ending scene has caused a great deal of consternation among the 10 year-old audience, picked up my son from school yesterday and there was heated discussion among his friends that Luke was "the biggest jerk ever" for making Grogu choose

luke is kind of a jerk tho

Jedi a portmanteau of "jerk, dick"

lol

The ancient jerk dick order

I'm guessing that Grogu is going to figure out a way to be both a Mandalorian and a Jedi and eventually wield the Dark Sabre since they made a point to mention in the last episode that the person who created the Dark Sabre was a Mandalorian Jedi

So yeah, Luke is being a jerk here and is providing additional evidence that the Jedis are for the most part not good at their jobs

Jon Favreau writing the last couple of episodes pic.twitter.com/Sa7ktLaokz

— Ireland Simpsons Fans (@iresimpsonsfans) February 4, 2022

lol

The finale mostly sucked but for RANCHOR SMASH which at least enjoyably sucked. Should've found a way to keep Cad Bane around for a while longer.

best part of the finale was finding out the theme song has lyrics

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljiVRV5B5i8

I can’t believe the How to Train Your Dragon “Firbidden Friendship” scene has been ripped off yet again.

best part of the finale was finding out the theme song has lyrics

― mh, Thursday, February 10, 2022 11:44 AM (five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Finding out the theme song has lyrics is exactly the same as finding out how han solo got his name

Binged through Book of Boba Fett this week in time to get to the finale.
Honestly, I was entertained the whole time! Weird to look at internet discourse (not just ILX, but pretty much every review I landed on) and see everyone complaining so much, considering in most respects this show was Mandalorean Season 2.5, especially those last three episodes (probably too much Mando honestly).

Yeah, there was a lot of clunkiness, and several character relationships could've been done better (hoping Fennec gets some more time in the next show) but as pure fan service - which these shows completely are - it succeeded immensely. Krrsantin and Cad Bane in live action! Rancor vs. MechaGodzilla fight! I was smiling like 90% of the time watching the show. Even the Luke CGI, while still a little uncanny, but was vastly improved over what we got in Mando S2 and reshashing Luke/Obi-Wan with Grogu was fun.

I'll be happy to stay on this Star Wars TV train with next season of Mando and if they bother to continue Boba Fett as a series, and Ahsoka, and Obi-Wan...

I loved it. Watched it with a 6.5-year-old that kept saying "The whoooole episode is a battle?!" while smiling. Amy Sedaris and Grogu ending were also huge comedy hits. Grogu's walk could have been more convincing.

yeah i loved it too & ageee re: baby yoda’s walk, it was v weird

Same. I found the Mandolarian quite boring and found this super entertaining.

loved the image of tiny baby yoda in the x-wing cockpit being all :D “yep i fly these now”… v funny

I assumed Baby Yoda's waddle was intentionally goofy, super muppet-motion

I found the first 4 eps of this pretty snoozy (albeit agreeably snoozy because it's Star Wars shit), but perked up substantially in ep 5 & 6 due because of excellent decision to jettison core concept. The ending was dumb but fun?

Ultimately I have felt deeply indifferent about this show ever since its existence was revealed at the end of Mando S2 - seems such a weird momentum-killing decision based on assumptions about Boba Fett that I find mystifying. As a OG SW '77 guy, I even struggle with the idea that Temuera Morrison is BF - he doesn't have the vibe I associate with the character at all, and I get no fan service payoff from his reprising the role.

As soon as Mando showed up in this he made Boba Fett redundant, as he has all along - effortlessly capturing what was cool about Boba in the first place (cool armour, body language, bad-assery) but also having compelling extra character layers.

Anyway I watched it with my kids regardless and they sat patiently thru the dull bits and loved all the Baby Yoda payoffs in Ep7.

Temura Morrison is also a terrible actor

he is a tricky little bugger

Was haunted by the faintest of memories so investigated, and - yes, the first time B.Fett actually appeared onscreen he was riding on the back of a big fuckin dinosaur thing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UC2Q6ANLXQ0

Good to see the new show honouring Boba’s deep love of sitting astride reptiles, a part of his character that I’m sure we can all agree has been under-explored

ok that is amazing

There's a decent boba fett history thing on disney+ that touches on this

my only complaint really is that it shouldn't have been that easy or quick for Grogu to return to Mando, which cheapens the end of season 2 after all that hard work of trying to get him to Luke in the first place. Having him come back as a full-fledged Jedi who doesn't need to take a nap every five mins would also have been more interesting.

He chose The Shirt

yeah, I agree. while I love Grogu as much as everyone else i was honestly hoping for at least one Grogu-free season of Mando

“ Temura Morrison is also a terrible actor”

Someone finally said it. Yes, he’s likeable enough, but damn, the voice actor in clone wars and bad batch provided infinitely more feeling to (what is sort of) the same character. - more range could have transformed this series. The fact that he’s paired with an equally lethargic version of Fennec sure doesn’t help either.

seems such a weird momentum-killing decision based on assumptions about Boba Fett that I find mystifying

In retrospect, having watched this series, I agree with this statement. I think most of the problems with the show stem from the weakness of the original concept. Boba Fett doesn't ever become a very interesting character, and I don't think it's primarily the fault of Morrison. He's just not given much to work with. His backstory seems to be a pile of well-worn tropes from action movies and TV westerns that never cohere into a believable personality. It just seems a perfunctory replay of the Mando pitch: he's a ruthless bounty hunter with a heart of gold! At least in the case of Mando you could imagine there was some weird bond between him and Grogu that was bringing out his soft side. But in the case of Boba, his decision to suddenly become the Richard the Lionheart of Tatooine never really gets any explanation. And the supporting cast is very bland. The only stand-out to me is the weaselly aide of the mayor who somehow heroically drags a memorable performance out of the wooden dialogue he's given to work with. (David Pasquesi, I'll look for him now.)

Pasquesi is a legendary improv artist; making a silk purse out of a sow's ear has been his livelihood for decades.

You need to watch Lodge 49 xp

also does good work in veep as selena’s ex husband

love pasquesi

wow, how had I not made the lodge 49 connection! of course

seems such a weird momentum-killing decision based on assumptions about Boba Fett that I find mystifying

really hated how nü fett's default state is without helmet. he takes off his helmet so freaking much! terrible. i get that the showrunners need a way to distinguish him from mando and you're probably paying temeura a lot for that face and continuity with attack of the clones. but '80 fett says that the helmet stays on during sex!

oh yeah other people totally OTM that it's really hard to square "he's worth a lot to me - he's no good to me dead" fett with "these are my people who I must selflessly protect" bad nü fett, regardless of whatever lizardworms entered his brain!

And again!

Between darkness and defeat, hope survives.

Watch the new teaser trailer for @ObiWanKenobi, and start streaming the limited series May 25 on @DisneyPlus. pic.twitter.com/XiJANgWrEz

— Star Wars (@starwars) March 9, 2022

Looks phenomenal!

Where can I hide the boy? Perhaps with his actual biological next of kin just in the same house they've always been in where they're easy to find. But for myself, I'll need a whole new identity — Ben Kenobi, they'll never crack that one.

— Matthew Yglesias (@mattyglesias) March 9, 2022

that dude is such a fucking troll

Yglesias, not Ben Kenobi

Not sure about that Fifth Brother look

genuinely never thought we'd reach a point where there was generalized nostalgia for the phenomenally shitty "first trilogy" but here we are i guess

tbf, Ob-Ewan is one of the (very) few saving graces of the prequels, so I don't mind more of him.

if i had to pick the most unobjectionable element of those movies, it's definitely mcgregor

genuinely never thought we'd reach a point where there was generalized nostalgia for the phenomenally shitty "first trilogy" but here we are i guess

It's an absolutely real thing, no lie, that for a lot of people who were my age when the originals came out that they're VERY fond of said first trilogy, compounded by The Clone Wars series' impact.

Yeah Clone Wars - both the Tartakovsky and Filoni versions - did a lot to redeem the prequels.

I’ll always feel bad for McGregor though for having to utter the line “I have seen a security hologram of him... killing younglings!”

Eps 4 - 6 look like a war in a war-weary universe

Eps 1- 3 look like a screensaver

Yglesias sucks but he's not wrong in that tweet upthread.

obviously, the reason that plot point doesn't work is because Lucas hadn't worked that part out yet when he wrote the first one, Ben was more or less just observing him from a distance to protect him and possibly recruit him later, not "hiding Luke from the dark side on his father's home planet using his father's actual surname".

that's kinda why I get so annoyed with neo-Star Wars gatekeepers who call things "not true Star Wars" on the basis of some plot points that don't line up perfectly, because the OG trilogy was full of holes and contradictions and who actually gives a fuck.

remember leaving the Common Area of my dorm freshman year of college because two groups of about 10-15 people started getting into a heated argument about the Clone Wars, with chairs being overturned and stuff

I definitely did not expect the soundtrack to the trailer to lean so heavily on the first trilogy score.

was hoping it'd be some Marlon Brando sounding guy singing "star warrrr, sta-aa-aar warrrrrs, sta-staaaa-aa-aaar warrrs, sta-aa-arrr wars" to the original theme

still haven't finished Fett, mostly because I've never given a fuck about Boba Fett, but I'll get around to it. much more excited for this one, as Obi-Wan deserves a nice reclamation project after what they did to him in the prequels.

Just jump to the last three episodes of Fett or, hell, just the last one.

Not caring about Fett before watching seems to be the easiest path to enjoyment. Watch them all. It's a great series.

I just need a weekend where I can actually sit and watch hours of something, and this one might just be it!

surfjan otm, that was me — i love star wars but i have never ever given more than two shits about boba fett & i enjoyed the show a lot, chill vibe appreciated imo

Almost skipped Book of Boba Fett until I found out it ties in to Mandalorian, so good job Star Wars for forcing me to watch everything you make a la Marvel. But it was quite enjoyable! Yes it's ridden with cliches but this was easily as entertaining as the last season of Mando (I mean, it is Mando for half the season). I feel like SW has gotten into a good groove lately, will certainly watch Obi-Wan

And one further trailer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Yh_6_zItPU

Okay so we got the Obi-Wan series about the land and next up is the Andor one -- twelve episodes!

https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2022/05/andor-star-wars-series-diego-luna

About TO land, etc.

oh too bad

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/41qY1SOeyoL._SX351_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg

I was hoping the Andor thing was about the sea.

by andor by sea

Thought this was out today but two episodes land Friday instead

was hoping for andor to be about the wookiee planet

got a prequel prequel instead

You don't like it, there's the (An)door

Right, Obi-Wan then.

not really a spoiler but just wanted to note that this show’s opening scene was extremely unfortunate, given recent events :/

Quite, but here we are, sadly.

But phew...hell of a start overall, those two episodes. And canny bastards they got where nearly all of the trailer scenes were from these two episodes.

And of course the one character there wasn't a hint of at all.

And in terms of the featured cast...how you say, a guy known for other things a little more than acting, though obviously has done some acting already. I literally went "Wait is THAT...?!"

Also while we're at it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUGFFxIFym4

@ned i lol’d and i want that action figure

Especially if they make a variant with his more well known persona, only substituting a strapped-on lightsaber for a sock.

(And seeing the name in the familiar end credits font/backdrop absolutely did my brain in.)

Also lol i thought the same thing re: action playset

yeah man that was a NO WAY moment

Hahah.

"So you want to join our jizz band."

"Well, duh."

That Andor trailer, BTW, looks pretty fucking amazing. The building out of the Star Wars universe step by step keeps being interesting to me. (Also in how things can start to interconnect: the start of the first Obi-Wan episode also had me going "Hmm and elsewhere in the same building at the same time a little green alien kid is watching his protectors die...")

Worth noting in light of The Acolyte apparently being the first filmed version of the High Republic years that the next publishing initiative announced will be about a hundred years before said time in turn.

Anyway, Obi-Wan and the big character reveal we didn't know about beforehand: awesome. She is GOOD. What a smart way to bring the character back. (Even if, as others have noted, that kinda makes her later holographic message to the titular character seem a little stilted...)

also if she hung out w him so much back in the day as a kid… how come when she’s grown she only talks to him as her dad’s war buddy? 🤔

I dug it, but that chase scene in the forest was the cheesiest thing.

xpost Exactly my implication, you see. :-D

Hey if you're being chased in a forest by a rock star, is it cheese or their latest video?

i wish they had released that 5 minute recap theatrically back in the day, sparing me the disappointment of three entire prequels

It was interesting seeing all that with wholly new not-John Williams music over it that also worked. It really changed the emphasis of a lot of it!

I think 'us' as older fans coming to terms with how a younger generation has had the prequels, and then the Clone Wars et al as further supplements, as part and parcel of the whole story in their experience really is kinda key. A 51 year old like me just experienced what 'Star Wars' is supposed to be in a much different fashion.

much better less boring fashion
the younger generation can keep their galactic taxation sagas imo

McGregor the only good thing about this for me. That precocious little kid and her awkward line readings? The unfunny Kumail Nanjani? Flea? No thanks. Pretty bad, I thought.

*Nanjiani

Also SW takes place in the batteries not included universe, apparently

Is Lola a flying Sony Discman?

lol how was I thinking “hey, I recognize that guy!“ the whole time and not recognizing Flea

That was me too

and yes my teen son knows the prequels much better than he knows eps 4-6 and is super stoked for this, for him mcgregor is the real obiwan

is this Hong Kong planet the place OW was buzzing around with Anakin at the start of episode 2?

if i goes on Wookiepedia I'll be up all night

ep 1 a mixed bag for me, the lead bad guy was menacing enough, the kid made it pretty hard to watch, obi-wan actually a pretty boring character? probably a nil-all draw i guess, will invest in ep 2 (who am i kidding, if I watched the boba fett show i will watch anything with the SW logo)

also was bracing for vader’s “noooooo” in the recap- disappointed it was omitted- is this revisionism?

obi-wan actually a pretty boring character?

well he’s being played by ewan mcgregor so

recognised Flea Immediately. Have his memoir around somewhere, not read it yet.

Was trying to think how long ago the prequels were since this was set 10 years after. & how things tie in with other SW spinoffs timeline.
So this is handy
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/timeline/36i8r0q3ewr5zkj4359q8robq1shgpz.png

well would be if that was one image like I thought it was.
THis bit helps too
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/timeline/0ayy0y5cyjxha21r87de535covb3jui.png

gonna keep watching obvs, but this show is pretty bad imo

Think the kid is doing the best she could, but in true SW tradition, her lines feel like they were written by people who have never met an actual child before.

Kumail Nanjaini v distracting and not in a good way - he's one of those actors where I can't really see him as any other character but himself. took me right out. and it's never quite explained why his character suddenly decided to help obi-wan? i mean he says why, but they never gave us an actual reason to trust him so it was like... huh??

also if the inquisitors can just read minds, why even bother threatening people to give up the location of jedis?

and yeah the chase sequences were hilarious - again, I have a feeling no one on the set has ever worked with children before, because those scenes where Leia's being chased by an adult that's pretending very hard they can't catch up with her just looked soooo goofy lol

the good: McGregor (pretty much carrying this whole thing) and Flea (RIP). Jimmy Smits/Bail Organa = only good dad in the galaxy.

Reva and the other Inquisitors are also being saddled with bad dialogue but overall, ok. I'm assuming the Grand Inquisitor isn't actually dead - seems like a waste to cast Rupert Friend and not utilise his action skills

oooh the one actor I didn’t recognise: Benny Safdie as the other Jedi o_O

great, now I’m wishing the Safdies had their own Star Wars show lol

and it's never quite explained why his character suddenly decided to help obi-wan?

this worked for me, seemed clear nanjaini's character is not a garden-variety hive-of-scum-and-villainy criminal but a weirdo jedi stan who never thought he'd encounter the real mccoy/gregor

>also if the inquisitors can just read minds, why even bother threatening people to give up the location of jedis?

To terrorize the non-knowers, probably. Same reason copspeak exists

Meantime from Celebration

This one is my favorite pic.twitter.com/OcS1QRruoW

— dodge🧡 (@dodgerroo) May 27, 2022

lol thats p good

There’s nothing quite as sad and hilarious as middle aged men complaining about dialog and logic in a Star Wars movie. Like, did you even see the first trilogy? The dialog is corny af and forced and riddled with terrible acting. The worst thing about Star Wars is easily Star Wars fans. I saw both episodes. There was pew pew and space ships. It was entertaining.

Like, did you even see the first trilogy? The dialog is corny af and forced and riddled with terrible acting.

This is absolutely true but that doesn't make it unreasonable to want something made in 2022 to be better! Sitcoms in 1977 sucked too and if they launched a new half-hour show set in the Extended WKRP Universe I would expect the acting and writing to be held to a higher standard than the original.

I mean....the difference between asking someone and extracting info = one is easy and one is work. doesn't seem that much of a stretch.

having to extract info from someone while there's a Jedi in the same room also gives the Jedi an advantage because you're distracted

My kid pointed out that when Third Sister was interrogating Owen, the other Inquisitors were right nearby, which meant she couldn't get away with Jedi-prying stuff out of his mind.

mind-extracting seems to be a new Force skill because the Force has just been code for "LOL MAGIC" since 1977

Talk about a forced confession har har

I skipped Boba Fett because I heard it was awful. Was it? This looks more promising.

would take a vision quest to know for sure, but we're out of nose lizards.

The Batch: still Bad

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JX5OW8cOec

Sitcoms in 1977 sucked too and if they launched a new half-hour show set in the Extended WKRP Universe I would expect the acting and writing to be held to a higher standard than the original.

Network sitcoms today are many times worse than WKRP though.

Roz otm

i'll probably keep watching this because the Ewan stuff is JUST compelling enough. and because i like the Star Wars world and find many of its accoutrements aesthetically satisfying as well as comfortingly familiar. but a lot of it doesn't really grab me. and a lot of the story choices aren't grabbing me either, but I'll give them the benefit of the doubt and watch the rest before i start ranting. let it suffice to say that I think Mandalorian (which wasn't trying to closely slot into spaces between other stories) had it easier.

a big thing me is that the oomph and magic and grandeur of Star Wars just doesn't translate down to TV scale, for me, even though the costumes and lightsaber effects do. some shots of the seedy space town looked ok, but a lot of them really showed the signs of being a big green screen room with a few extras scrolling about to populate the scene. the forest chase felt very Hercules/Xena I'm sure everyone involved worked really hard and did many clever things to make possible what they have, but for whatever irrational reason i didn't embrace it. the Tattooine stuff worked better I thought.

i used to love Ewan McGregor pre Star Wars so i am enjoying watching him in particular

the kid bothers me not gonna lie
how is she even leia with no fire or stubbornness or attitude

No attitude? Seems like she has a lot of it!

the bar is too low for kid actors imo

she's fine, but the role needs "special," and it's really hard to find that, or draw it out on set (especially with a huge complicated production with a ton of other moving parts). more rehearsal time, super valuable for actors generally, could easily deaden a child's performance. and meanwhile she has to make sure she's hitting all the marks for the digital effects stuff. so we're back in prequel land in several ways.

Some good things:

* I did find the Inquisitors convincingly menacing and weird, even if their methods don't really make much sense. Main Baddie Sister is fine as a TV show villain but if this devolves into weekly "I'll get you next time, Kenobi!!" scenes, we're in trouble.

* I liked the approach to showing Kenobi's workaday grind in the desert, and what his priorities are at this point.

* I bet Smits was thrilled to finally get to play Bail in a complete, character-driven scene after all these years, and it worked well onscreen.

* Happy to have Edgerton back as Owen! He feels very natural and lived-in.

* Basically the first ep, apart from the forest bit, worked pretty well for me -- edit it down a little and it's a great first act for a lovely 95-minute Star Wars TV special.

-force mind reading had an established precedent in ROTJ, i thought ("sister... so... you have a twin sister..."), maybe this is just like an aggressive version of that.

-i enjoyed the T-16 skyhopper model that obi-wan bought for luke, nice callout ("i used to bullseye womp rats in my T-16 back home")

-sung kang has a nice sansho the bailiff vibe going with that hat

-kumail was not bad for what he was given, his character has this watto vibe going on. i assume he's formerly jedi academy adjacent, maybe even flunked out? hence the motivation to help obi wan.

-when is obi wan going to get confronted about meat-stealing, we keep on getting shots of him wrapping chekhov's hunk of krayt-ribeye in butcher paper. (ok, i know that's not a krayt dragon but i don't know any other tatooine megafauna it could be, maybe a franchise-crossover molduga from zelda?)

-otherwise roz and doctor casino otm, the action sequences feel so lifeless and clunky. it feels as wooden as the pre-mandalorian episodes of boba fett, i wonder if there's some edict from on high at disney to make everything slow and bad. i'm betting these episodes would be a lot better as a director's cut? also annoying how video game-y these episodes feel (go talk to character A to collect plot device B in order to take the offworld transport at location C)? amazing how much better the andor trailer looks, i assume everything is just a lot better when you get to white sheet the story/characters and not feel confined by trying to fit something in on a timeline between the prequels and the original trilogy.

i assumed the meat was a permitted daily ration. it's not really presented that way, but since Obi-Wan's entire status quo is "keep a low profile, don't attract attention, the boy is the only purpose remaining," i couldn't imagine him taking the risk of stealing stuff at work every day. also he's a single man, living way the hell out in the boonies with apparently few expenses - if anybody can possibly survive on the crappy pay of a short-term carcass-slicer, it'd be him.

hmm i thought it was to show how he can't keep his jedi instincts under warps even in exile since he feeds the meat to his tatooine camel - is star wars the franchise where being kind to animals marks you as a good guy or am i thinking of some other franchise?

the Andor trailer does look quite good

i think the relative cheapness of the production is simple economics stemming from the subscription model. really great-looking action takes time and money. not that you need infinite dollars to make a fight scene exciting, but it does take time to put the camera/lights in interesting places, rehearse exciting fights, etc. and maybe they just want a few good-enough Star Wars shows a year, to keep on board the people who only signed up for Mandalorian in the first place. if you've already got McGregor in the title role and are promising fans an exciting and untold chapter in several major chatacters' stories, maybe there's not as much support from above when the creators want to push all these elements to be their best.

-nice touch of bringing in temeura to play the homeless clone trooper

some shots of the seedy space town looked ok, but a lot of them really showed the signs of being a big green screen room with a few extras scrolling about to populate the scene.

yeah this was really bad, feels like there are directorial touches you can do to make a place seem a lot bigger and more lived in than it really is, using tight telephotos and zooms to provide a sense of depth - i suppose you can't do that with a greenscreen, everything is a big wide angle because you don't have a real set to work off of (the obvious call out is blade runner, look how much is done with just panning past the neon sign with a tight telephoto, some real depth to it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcwOApqmJMQ)

-is this our first time on alderaan outside of episode 3? i like how cheesy and 70s all the costumes and buildings were, also how much of a verdant paradise it's supposed to be, something very "inner light" about it, they're going overboard to make sure we understand how much of a loss it was for it to get blown up!

-force mind reading had an established precedent in ROTJ, i thought ("sister... so... you have a twin sister...")

ahh, yes, you are right! completely forgot about that

2 scenes of Vect slappin' the big console button. The child acting is bad. There are fun real life parallels involving child Jedi/actors and revisiting past mistakes going on. Slow start, but I'm into it now!

Ben (Ewan) must protect these force-gifted children (child actors) and get it right this time.

Pleading and persecuted young jedi vs pleading and persecuted young prequel loving fanbase

i'll tell you what, there's a reason most series don't open with a very long "previously on" scene, followed by an action scene, immediately followed by a "10 years later" intertitle and that reason is that you're like.. is the actual story going to start soon? and then you get the actual story and it's got something to do with some extremely boring invigilators or whatever pushing open the imaginary swinging doors of a tavern and expounding ludicrously on jedis while they clomp around like fools

this didn't feel that diff from an episode of Rebels tbh

Like Ewan but this was a bit boring imo

Boba Fett was also boring but I preferred that kind of boring?

NB I always have a nice twenty-minute nap during Star Wars movies so boringness is not a bug

Perhaps -- because I'm not really that into Star Wars -- I'm having the same "there's too much continuity and they all look the same!!!!" reaction people have to Marvel movies.

Baby Leia asks Ben to "make her float", begging Ewan to make this series a success like the one with a floating baby yoda.

I spent the couple episodes thinking how hard Obi-Wan was working at being extremely offline. So many bits where logging on for a moment were so tempting. Almost made it, until finally he had to use the force to catch Leia.

Picturing Anakin meditating in his bacta tube getting the "Obi-Wan is online" ping when that happened

is it possible to use the force to 'make out' remotely

lmao mh

xp

didn't that happen in The Last Jedi?

Seems Ben would have sensed the still living Anakin at some point before logging off.

It had never occurred to me that he didn't know. I guess he really intended him to slowly and painfully die on the side of a volcano. Seems kinda out of character, but what do I know? Odd that he somehow had never heard any mention of "Darth Vader" but I guess I dunno how much his escapades were being publicized by the Empire at that point in time.

he was just "new suit goofin'" for 10 years

I know in Rebels the existence of Darth Vader himself isn't well known in the time after the rise of the Empire, and Ahsohka Tano is devastated when she finds out it's Anakin. amazing moment in that series.

also some neat Darth comics about his early time on the job, where he's somewhat insubordinate and still traumatized by what happened to him on Mustafar.

The comics are kind of a series of "ahh, this is the moment when he really becomes Darth Vader" followed immediately by him getting some ideas and the Emperor swatting him down hard, only to come back even more powerful

Emperor def didn't go through HR-sanctioned sensitivity training

It must be true

Watching Obi-Wan Kenobi and I like to imagine that Flea's eccentric gang of hapless criminals is the same as his eccentric gang of hapless criminals from Back to the Future II, Big Lebowski and Baby Driver and they just travel through different IP universes to do bungled capers. pic.twitter.com/7GRiyhXIz0

— Alex Seitz-Wald (@aseitzwald) May 28, 2022

would watch Flea crew multiverse

Throw in the crew he was part of with Chet Baker in the Baker doc Let’s Get Lost.

Inquisitor: You have failed the Empire once again. Have you anything to say for yourself?

Vect Nokru:

Fuck you asshole
You homophobic, redneck dick
You're big and tough and macho
You can kick my ass

So fucking what
So fucking what

Anyway, episode 3, gotta love a cliffhanger.

is star wars the franchise where being kind to animals marks you as a good guy or am i thinking of some other franchise?

This falls into the category/trope of Saving the Cat, doesn’t it? The protagonist displays how inherently good they are by extending care to an animal in need and thus establishes character without the need for dialogue.

I’m trying to remember what I watched in the last 6 months that literally had the protagonist saving a cat in the opening bits?

the inverse is true too. Kevin Spacey put a suffering dog out of his misery in House of Cards first episode, and boom...pedophile

The comics are kind of a series of "ahh, this is the moment when he really becomes Darth Vader" followed immediately by him getting some ideas and the Emperor swatting him down hard, only to come back even more powerful

― mh, Tuesday, May 31, 2022 3:53 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

Vader as someone with a damaged soul who has to be kept broken to maintain him as a junkyard dog was a good artistic choice.

like the Emperor knew there was a potential shelf life before Vader turned back to the light and each time he swatted him back, he was just kicking the can a little further down the road.

the RLM drunks should be pleased with the pace of that battle

xp I think it's more the entire Sith "only two" dynamic where the very nature of the deal is that the acolyte's supposed to overthrow the master, and the master just keeps alternating between pouring gasoline on the fire and hitting their nose with a rolled up newspaper

That was ... better? Though I feel that in this attractive yet kinda inept production McGregor is the only one with real chops. Kinda like Guinness in ANH? Oh -- and Cushing.

when does obi-wan turn into the sleepy-eyed, obdurate, epigrammatic presence we see in ep iv?? kind of hard to see how we get from here to there

McGregor is doing great work. I do love seeing how washed up and rusty he is, guessing we'll see him get his mojo back or something by the end.
I really like Moses Ingram as well - she's got the dial set to "Star Wars" acting just right.

I liked the cutoff dialogue when they were talking about what happened to the Grand Inquisitor, since the other inquisitors seem to think he's dead

I'm pretty sure he ain't dead yet!

btw there's some theorizing that like they did with Mark Hamill the Jones voice is deepfaked, which if true is pretty astounding; thought it sounded perfect

i'm finding this really underwritten (despite four credited screenwriters). every scene between obi-wan and leia just kinda repeats the same beats... he's SO wiped out and washed up and grumpy that he can't even muster interesting tidbits about the Force, or unique ways to establish that she needs to lay low and be quiet again, or clever cover stories when dealing with bad dudes.

idk, i'd just like a little pizzazz, a glint of specialness. the big confrontation this episode should be a HUGE moment but he has nothing to say there either. all the dialogue just feels very plot-functional to me.

Totally disagree! I liked their choice to have Obi-Wan have few lines and mostly physical emotive acting - he just found out a few hours ago that his lifelong surrogate son - who he STILL feels terrible guilt for murdering 20 years ago - survived as a hideous monster far more powerful than when he died and hellbent on revenge. He's utterly shell-shocked and basically gave up his life as a sacrifice play. I wonder how far they'll take Obi-Wan's growth by the end of the series.

The Vader appearance was brutal - neck snaps galore! - and just a notch or two below his Rogue One appearance

Oops, that ending hidden tag should've come after the second line. Or maybe not at all i dunno

The worst bits so far: a chest high tree branch impedes a kidnapper, a laser gate between two small hills must be destroyed for Ben and Leia to pass on foot, a fire between two mounds of rubble impedes a whole garrison that could split to cover each side

That last one made me lol. Again felt very much like a cheesy TV-episode-conclusion --- Wellp, dangit, I guess he made it over the county line. We'll get 'im next time, don't you worry!

Nhex, I do agree that Obi-Wan's characterization makes sense for where he's at. I've just found all the scenes between him and Leia, from the moment of their meeting, oddly inert... idk.

"they're very slowly getting away!"

i wonder if it's implied that vader has some sort of the-Hound-from-GoT aversion to fire now after mustafar

i am enjoying this even though it is very slight & there’s not a whole lot to it

vader’s dialogue felt kinda rehashed? but the ott rage & cruelty was pretty well done. i do like mcgregor a lot, he always has this exhausted look like “god again with all this? i wish i was chopping monster steaks” like he really does feel genuinely shutdown in a way that is quite genuine

the only thing i dont support is the ADULT ditching A CHILD like oh she said she’ll be fine & that i should go help ObiWan SHE IS A CHILD AND HE IS A GROWNASS JEDI ..,I REALLY DO THINK YOU SHOULD HELP HER FFS

I rewatched that bit and Leia seems to be the one telling her to go!

that’s what i mean! she’s a kid! if she insists you go you say “thats nice of you but no i’m not leaving you to navigate a tunnel network alone to meet someone you dont know”

so Leia continues to call him Ben, even though she ostensibly heard Reva call her Obi-Wan. Please tell me she didn't hear that, and like Luke, thinks Ben Kenobi and Obi-Wan Kenobi are two different people like in A New Hope.

"nah, that's my cousin. I'm Mike Kenobi, this is my brother Kyle Kenobi"

(I mean Leia *as an adult* thinks the Ben Kenobi she met years ago was not the same as Obi-Wan Kenobi that her daddy told her about)

Zach Braff is Freck? meh

If you want to do a mind-twisting retcon here, it’d make sense for Leia to act like her father hadn’t been in contact with Obi-Wan since the republic days in case she was captured. She could claim she was part of the rebellion and her senator father had no part in it, and he surely hadn’t talked to any Jedi since those days

They’re definitely taking advantage of the fact Leia and Obi-Wan never spoke on the Death Star

"Hi Ben!"

"Leia, shut up!"

my prediction is a force mind wipe of leia at some point

that's my suspicion too, though it would be incredibly lazy and lame if they went this route

They did do it at the end of Revenge of the Sith, so there’s precedent

...yeah but to a droid.

Just watched this, after not reading anything about it – more out of disinterest, than a desire to avoid spoilers (also haven't been following the thread, apologies).

I think it's even a little worse than I was expecting... and makes me appreciate the heavy fan-service approach of the other series more, in retrospect; at least those had a real "Star Wars" flavor. This just feels like sort of a pedestrian TV show, cheap-looking, acting/directing not particularly good, etc.

The Muppet Baby Leia adventure also doesn't work for me, and not just b/c the kid doesn't seem much like Leia – it just feels like a bad idea. And, yes, it also immediately raises the question I see is discussed above. (The plot also weakens other aspects of ANH – like when Vader says, "I sense a presence I haven't felt since...," he means "...oh, 8 or 9 years ago"?)

I do like a few moments – like Obi-Wan reminiscing about Padme, and Leia asking if he's her real father. I did NOT like when Vader randomly kills a child on the street – is that really his style(?) I haven't read the Vader comics or anything, maybe it is. Honestly, this series feels like it should have just been a comic.

never really knew Vader to be much of a merciful person, regardless of the age of his victims. he would be an HR nightmare, you dont' get fired for failing, you get choked to death.

Yeah, but none of those were civilians? He wasn't fighting anyone in that scene, just terrorizing the populace...

I thought Vader was doing it because he knew Obi-Wan would show himself if he kept killing the villagers?

I mean as Anakin he did also slaughter an entire village of Tusken Raiders.

And yes that was due to hate/vengeance, but I felt like Vader and Reva were pissed that he was hiding and nobody was fessing up as to where he was so he took things to the next level to draw him out

He also killed the younglings in Ep. 3, of course

It all plays into thing of how "questionable" it is that Anakin gets to chill in eternity as a Force Ghost if he's a cold-blooded murderer.

it's the whole Xtian allegory, he 'asked forgiveness' shortly before he died so all is kosher now.

A few other bits I liked were: (a) the Clone Veteran, and (b) Obi-Wan waking up in a cold sweat after suffering thru a nightmare montage of the prequels' shittiest moments (that had to be tongue-in-cheek, right?)

just terrorizing the populace...

this is his job

tis true, that's what the HR posting said.

I don't think you ever see him around civilians in any of the movies? (but again, I haven't read/watched the other stuff)

I thought his basic job was to serve as Palpatine's eyes/ears/muscle in the halls of the Empire itself

in the comics he light sabers a gun in Rineau, just to watch him die

*guy

Darth Vader stole my multiball bonus

I feel like Obi-Wan gestures toward the "aging hero reluctantly pulled out of retirement" trope, but doesn't want to commit fully to it – which is actually kind of interesting, but also makes the show feel weirdly hollow... like even the scene where goes John Wick and digs up his lifesabers doesn't trigger any emotion (and doesn't seem meant to). Obi-Wan just seems depressed... and you already know he can't get TOO much of his mojo back, since he just ends up going off the grid even further.

(I meant Life Savers, the candy, obv)

It's a bridge between what the jedi were and what they need to become, imo

Obi-Wan's not back, he's just doing the right thing for an old friend. He's not going back to being a jedi because he's adrift and doesn't know what being a jedi means anymore. We're getting the middle piece between him being mentally and emotionally wrecked after he left his best friend to die and his order was slaughtered and the calm, resolute Obi-Wan we first saw.

Maybe Qui-Gon picks up the force phone at some point in this series, or he figures out it's not the number of jedi using the force, it's the endless force that just needs one jedi to stand alone

so glad Zack Braff got beat up

didn't realize that was Hayden Christiansen beneath the suit in the last ep. had no reason to think it was, considering he only appeared as him in the transformation scene in ROTS and usually he's played by built dudes/stunt dudes.

(partial body shots/seated shots only, obv - no stunt work or full body shots with helmet on. but the Hayds was Vader for a few scenes!)

mh – I like that...

(I can't believe James Earl Jones is still doing Vader's voice!)

deepfakes baby

Ep. 4 has some good scenes of Obi-Wan getting his lightsaber on.

De-aging technology still has some way to go

lol yeah Hayden definitely looked much older than in prequels

I watched five seconds of that opening scene and turned the show off.

I have to admire their gutsiness in wanting to front-and-center the "Darth Vader is the same person as Anakin Skywalker" aspect of this whole universe/saga/whatever. It makes obvious narrative sense to do so, but has this problem where the three movies devoted to making the Anakin-Vader transition actually left me less convinced, emotionally speaking, that the murderous death robot voiced by James Earl Jones was once a whiny, angsty youth played by Hayden Christensen. It's a huge huge journey for this guy to have taken, but it's never felt real to me. And it's so important to Obi-Wan's motivations and feelings in this show!

Maybe if Anakin had been a young man in the first one, half-man half-machine in the second, and mostly Vader in the third, or something.... oh well. I don't think it's something they can really solve at this point, although maybe people who read the comic books or novels have other stuff filling those gaps.

I've always felt the prequels should have started w/Anakin as a young man, and taken place over a shorter period of time (like the OT). The events of TPM bring almost nothing to the table, other than showing you the roots of Palpatine's long game (which really don't matter).

fwiw I really liked the last episode and this series so far. it's character driven, not so much plot driven.

Why did they inatall the electical box in a vent?

Suppose it looks cleaner and everyone always has a droid handy anyway.

Droids are important to have around, you see. (I like Lola.) Good episode and I'm now puzzling out how the last one will play out; I have a few ideas but still...

yeah i liked this episode - also liked vader fighting third sister unarmed at first, that was kinda badass

finding this pretty gruelling - it is not much fun, i suppose the chronology/setting kinda precludes fun but it just feels like franchise bran - any lingering fondness for OWK I might’ve had based on Alec Guinness is long gone - if you saw this without any SW knowledge surely you’d be bored witless?

I'm into it enough to keep watching, but not swept up enough to not be distracted by little things. My favorite might be the jump from "your terrible injuries need more time to heal" to "I'll drop you off somewhere on this briny ocean planet and you'll swim the last few miles underwater."

Also, what the hell was Third Sister doing while Vader's attention and powers were completely occupied holding down that spaceship? Was she in the bathroom? Filling out paperwork with some stormtroopers? Really missed an opportunity there, oh well.

xxp I'm liking it fine (my reaction to everything star wars since i dunno, 2002) but yeah it would be a dreadful introduction to Star Wars

lol xp

Was thinking similar "I'll just wait until Vader stops struggling with that spaceship before attacking him sneakily from behind"

Reva doing the "keep your enemies close" long game is the plot point that rang really false for some of the reasons stated upthread. I like the angle of her being a Youngling that escaped, but I don't really watch this for the plot, more for the character moments of rusty Kenobi and sloppy, vindictive Vader.

My quick fix for this whole thing: have Christensen voice Vader, and he only acquires the James Earl Jones voice as a result of additional injuries suffered at some point in this series. Obviously this contradicts the ending of Episode III. But I think for this character story between him and Obi-Wan, it'd work better to ask Christensen to play bitter, self-loathing mid-30s psycho Anakin, still in denial about the exact way things went down back in the day.

well, but Vader speaks outside the mask towards the end of Jedi, and his regular, wispy speaking voice is nothing like the Vader voice he used 3 minutes prior.

i always assumed the voice synthesis technology of the helmet modulated his voice for intimidation purposes

a la Dark Helmet

i can't breathe in this thing!

I love though that after Vader is unmasked in Jedi, he acquires a British accent

is there any footage of Vader ordering lunch and springing for a beans on toast

I suspect when Hayden C is a little older, they’ll re-edit that scene and remove Prowse completely.

and then, years later, Justin Bieber, III will make an impression on Lucas, now 136, and he will recut all of the movies with 3Bieb as Anakin, and Darth Vader will sing

(Sorry, I meant Sebastian Shaw)

what could have been

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txmcsU5eFw4

despite the numerous weird plot holes and sometimes ridiculous logic in this series I am thoroughly enjoying this. As mentioned upthread maybe just because of some interesting character development, which isn't something you see as much in the star wars movies.

glad that people are enjoying it - for real! following comments offered merely as grist for the "internet forum"

the character development thing is interesting - i don't feel very interested in these characters as characters i gotta say - nobody is particularly charming/compelling - and their ability to meaningfully change is limited by their need to slot into their allotted positions for ep 4 - a grim ewan macgregor going from checked-out to marginally less checked-out isn't a super compelling arc for me

(i also think that as a kid who saw OG SW '77 in the cinema, i find it particularly difficult to think of these particular pieces of IP as actual characters with motivations and such - is it because i was so young when i saw it? but for me they'll always be brilliant archetypes who serve a plot function in those 3 films - and any attempt to give them proper psychological depth just bounces off my brain - same with Doctor Who, when people start talking about his PTSD or whatever I just tune out - he's The Doctor! that is all)

anyway, definitely think the Mandalorian is far and away the best of these series so far because it uses new characters - and i could probably make a case for Rogue One being the best film qua film of the Disney era

This is ridiculous and therefore great

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZnXjJqJp8g

Been mostly enjoying the series but that was a disappointing finale apart from the main duel (tho this ended unsatisfyingly also and didn't mean enough to justify the retcon). Stakes too low, villains weaknesses brought about far too easily. What even was Reva's plan? Would've liked more Hayden and there were a few ways they should've handled that but didn't.

haven't watched finale yet, have re-started watching Clone Wars, but I fear that until I get deeper into the series, I'm not going to have the itch to watch more than two a day. (I'm on Season 2).

This series was a’ight overall. But barely. Last two eps the best imho.

I like how things finally progressed from "sad man carries his guilt around and tries to help a special little girl" after a cool fight scene, immediately followed by "here's the fan service you've been waiting six episodes for"

I'm officially someone with Star Wars fatigue, having consumed almost all of the new media. My friends and their kids are enjoying Obi-Wan and the cool new stuff. But nearly every location, character, or plot point has happened in another Star Wars property so it's not new for me. Looking at that entire Inquisitor base bit that was nearly copy-pasted from the Jedi: Fallen Order video game with a little bit of side-eye

Thanks for not saying “content”!

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content

You horrid person.

Anyway I enjoyed it overall — a nice fillip in the end with a couple of striking moments. Roll on Andor….

felt a little flicker of engagement in the last ep
but it is my overall feeling that this show was Not Good

yeah i feel the same as mh - the story is deadened by being such a narrow arc within well-worn story beats we already know that i found it hard to get overly enthused or excited. i think i prefer something like mando where there’s more freedom in the storytelling? idk

the moments btw obi & leia were lovely though, and i thought mcgregor was a+

xxxpost to mh

“Aaaaarghhh!”

my reaction to the last two eps

https://i.postimg.cc/23NW4p2J/Capture.png

emsworth OTM for mine

Would've like to have seen Vader unboxing his replacement helmet while being berated by Palps.