“I take my responsibilities seriously. I did not lie” - UK politics June 23 on

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Have at it.

TY FRANCE HATES TEXAS CONFIRMED (gyac), Friday, 9 June 2023 21:51 (one year ago) link

rip are boris truly u were the people's cunt i wish u hadn't been murdered by the perfidious johnny eu

rick semper moranis (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 9 June 2023 22:30 (one year ago) link

‘he's a most notable coward, an infinite and endless liar, an hourly promise-breaker, the owner of no one good quality worthy your lordship's entertainment…’

yeah, but enough about Kieth.

calzino, Saturday, 10 June 2023 08:12 (one year ago) link

It's been heavily briefed already that The Times will back Labour, and with Boris Johnson resigning from parliament, Tony Gallagher hasn't the slightest reason to change course. https://t.co/0mlq6swyW8

— Elvis Buñuelo (@Mr_Considerate) June 10, 2023

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 10 June 2023 12:17 (one year ago) link

Some Tory MP and Boris brown-noser I've never heard of has just resigned "with immediate effect", so that's three by-elections to look forward to!

Renaissance of the Celtic Trumpet (Tom D.), Saturday, 10 June 2023 13:05 (one year ago) link

Strange to think that these fuckers could well limp on for another 18 months, they seem like a placeholder government already

I question your commitment to the revolution (Matt #2), Saturday, 10 June 2023 13:27 (one year ago) link

I assume Dorries is just going down with her shit, she has several conversations with Boris yesterday (disclaimer: the source for this is almost certainly Dorries)

Andrew Farrell, Saturday, 10 June 2023 13:48 (one year ago) link

going down with her shit

Can't tell if this is a typo or not.

you gotta roll with the pączki to get to what's real (snoball), Saturday, 10 June 2023 13:56 (one year ago) link

circling the drain

Tracer Hand, Saturday, 10 June 2023 14:55 (one year ago) link

every time I see the two main dead-eyed freakazoids of the Labour Party with ghastly voices talking up nothing as something I only feel anger + despair at how wretched they are. I don't feel any relief that the tories are knackered at all.

calzino, Saturday, 10 June 2023 21:44 (one year ago) link

Remembering how 'knackered' (in other words not really knackered at all) the Tories were just before the 1997 GE and comparing them to how knackered the Tories are now more than anything else shows how absolutely knackered Labour are now.

you gotta roll with the pączki to get to what's real (snoball), Sunday, 11 June 2023 08:45 (one year ago) link

last year I was chatting with old bloke who is a long time on/off Labour member who was disgusted with the Kinnock purges and first cancelled their membership over clause 4, but keeps going back to them on the rationale that they are the only vehicle for change and is too much of a party history geek to ever totally give up on them. He was a bit lukewarm and critical of Corbyn but not as hostile as yer average melts were at the time and gave me a telling off for dissing Kieth at the start of his leadership. But now he's really really glum about Kieth.

calzino, Sunday, 11 June 2023 10:18 (one year ago) link

if Starmer gets in it’s up to all of us to push him in the right direction, and i suspect that will have to come from outside the party. i mean he is a chickenshit with no principles so it’s not like he won’t change his mind for expediency. we just need to make the right moves expedient for him

Tracer Hand, Sunday, 11 June 2023 11:44 (one year ago) link

either that or get him on mic calling some old lady a bigot

Tracer Hand, Sunday, 11 June 2023 11:45 (one year ago) link

You're more likely to get some old lady on a mic calling him a bigot.

Renaissance of the Celtic Trumpet (Tom D.), Sunday, 11 June 2023 11:55 (one year ago) link

Police Scotland: A 52-year-old woman has been arrested as a suspect in connection with the investigation into the SNP's funding and finances.

Nicola Ferguson Sturgeon is a Scottish politician who served as First Minister of Scotland and Leader of the Scottish National Party from 2014 to 2023. Wikipedia
Born: 19 July 1970 (age 52 years), Ayrshire Central Hospital, Irvine.

Just sayin' like.

Renaissance of the Celtic Trumpet (Tom D.), Sunday, 11 June 2023 13:35 (one year ago) link

What!

TY FRANCE HATES TEXAS CONFIRMED (gyac), Sunday, 11 June 2023 13:45 (one year ago) link

Sorry Scots, looks like you'll be yoked to perfidious Albion for a while yet

darts macabre (Matt #2), Sunday, 11 June 2023 13:49 (one year ago) link

I blame that shifty husband of hers.

Renaissance of the Celtic Trumpet (Tom D.), Sunday, 11 June 2023 14:09 (one year ago) link

Getting arrested or indicted is all the rage these days

StanM, Sunday, 11 June 2023 14:48 (one year ago) link

Given she posted her driving theory test yesterday, polis clearly thought she was a flight risk, hence the lifting

— Michael Scanlan is on MAB (@ScanlanWithAnA) June 11, 2023

two grills one tap (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 11 June 2023 15:11 (one year ago) link

NEW: Seven hours after her arrest, Nicola Sturgeon has been released by police without charge. pic.twitter.com/Y541IJImwu

— Lewis Goodall (@lewis_goodall) June 11, 2023

two grills one tap (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 11 June 2023 17:01 (one year ago) link

IT'S ALMOST AS IF

two grills one tap (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 11 June 2023 17:02 (one year ago) link

LOCK HER UP

rick semper moranis (bizarro gazzara), Sunday, 11 June 2023 17:04 (one year ago) link

Last year I planned to take my own life. I saved up my antidepressants with a plan to overdose on them. I didn't tell anyone, my girlfriends found out and staged an intervention.
I reached out to my MP (and someone I consider a friend) @KirstySNP ahead of this debate. https://t.co/qS3GsFx9KI

— Heather Herbert (@HeatherHerbert_) June 13, 2023

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 13 June 2023 10:47 (one year ago) link

Not sure where else to post this, but I am feeling a bit shat up about the attacks this morning: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-nottinghamshire-65887752

emil.y, Tuesday, 13 June 2023 13:31 (one year ago) link

that, and another incredibly bleak and depressing child murder as a result of chronically under-funded and over-stretched social services, thank you Tory Britain

Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Tuesday, 13 June 2023 13:46 (one year ago) link

twitter was not a good place to try and find any accurate reports about the carnage in Nottingham this morning. I had to scroll past hundreds of grotesque idiots linking it with asylum seekers and the French attack from last week.

calzino, Tuesday, 13 June 2023 14:14 (one year ago) link

The only time I can find on the news reports is 4am, which strikes me as a very poor choice of time to do terrorism, so I'd be surprised if it did turn out to be a 'terror attack'. I think Neil S is more likely to be correct.

emil.y, Tuesday, 13 June 2023 14:59 (one year ago) link

also the judge that gave a 24 month sentence to someone with 3 kids, one of them disabled, in that abortion pill case is a total dick.

calzino, Tuesday, 13 June 2023 15:27 (one year ago) link

I found the Nottingham incidents particularly difficult because:
a) my oldest friend died early this morning, very near to where one of the attacks occurred, and I was scared that the medical people were going to be delayed in reaching her (thankfully they weren’t).
b) someone else I know, who lives in the next street to where one of the attacks occurred, couldn’t sleep and took a night time walk down that very street, an hour before it all happened.
c) one of the streets that was sealed off was the same street where my oldest friend and I lived next door to each other, 40 years ago.

mike t-diva, Tuesday, 13 June 2023 22:48 (one year ago) link

sorry to hear that Mike, that's awful.

the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 14 June 2023 06:27 (one year ago) link

yeah, horrible

Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 14 June 2023 09:30 (one year ago) link

Oh god, Mike, that's all terrible, I'm so sorry. In my friend group there was a lot of working out exactly where it all happened and who lived there and if everyone was alright yesterday, but that sounds so much more intense.

emil.y, Wednesday, 14 June 2023 14:05 (one year ago) link

It's horrible for you both. Horrible when the violence is so near. Sorry to hear it.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 14 June 2023 14:18 (one year ago) link

My non-music job is as an informatics/analytics lead for a major London trust and I have seen many “AI” automation proposals. All of them have been staggeringly unworkable in almost every way, largely proposed by (albeit well-meaning) folk with no working knowledge of NHS data. https://t.co/qJyZVIomjg

— Phexioenesystems (@phxsys) June 14, 2023

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 14 June 2023 16:04 (one year ago) link

I'd like to see old Boris wriggle his way out of this one!

Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Thursday, 15 June 2023 08:24 (one year ago) link

well at least our next likely PM is not an unprincipled, lying, adulterous piece of human garbage, lol

calzino, Thursday, 15 June 2023 08:29 (one year ago) link

Ouch, they've really done a number on the lying sack of shit.

Renaissance of the Celtic Trumpet (Tom D.), Thursday, 15 June 2023 08:54 (one year ago) link

Now endless videos and pics of him jogging.

nashwan, Thursday, 15 June 2023 09:06 (one year ago) link

Now endless videos and pics of him jogging.

nashwan, Thursday, 15 June 2023 09:06 (one year ago) link

Boris Johnson
Liberal, nuanced, cautious: is this the real Boris Johnson?

the Graun had his number right from the start of his premiership

calzino, Thursday, 15 June 2023 09:12 (one year ago) link

Now endless videos and pics of him jogging.

the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 15 June 2023 09:19 (one year ago) link

lol

Renaissance of the Celtic Trumpet (Tom D.), Thursday, 15 June 2023 09:21 (one year ago) link

Jog on Jogson

nashwan, Thursday, 15 June 2023 09:29 (one year ago) link

An ok piece laying out our next crisis.

https://www.theguardian.com/news/2023/jun/15/drought-is-on-the-verge-of-becoming-the-next-pandemic

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 15 June 2023 13:03 (one year ago) link

Pollster: 'Boris Johnson is more unpopular than Phillip Schofield or Xi Jinping'

Renaissance of the Celtic Trumpet (Tom D.), Thursday, 15 June 2023 13:50 (one year ago) link

he's history's greatest monster

Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Thursday, 15 June 2023 13:56 (one year ago) link

Unless you're an equally conniving corrupt MP who is now free to act with impunity until the next time the press need a wicker man

two grills one tap (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 15 June 2023 13:57 (one year ago) link

Now endless videos and pics of him jogging.

TY FRANCE HATES TEXAS CONFIRMED (gyac), Thursday, 15 June 2023 14:03 (one year ago) link

Corbyn on R4 PM today - first on Glenda Jackson, then on Johnson, then on Labour - was excellent. (Twitter thread)

“The meeting went silent, every body turned to stare at each other, and Glenda gave me the biggest wink you’d ever seen”

Former Labour leader, @jeremycorbyn , shares his fond memories of working with Glenda Jackson, who has passed away at age 87.#bbcpm pic.twitter.com/wqqT2WdrMb

— BBCPM (@BBCPM) June 15, 2023

mike t-diva, Thursday, 15 June 2023 20:06 (one year ago) link

I listened to a GJ interview a few years ago and she was saying Corbyn shouldn't have been the leader because working class people who the Labour Party are supposed to serve are preternaturally a socially conservative bunch of people. Her politics were basically of that detestably condescending noblesse oblige variety of the Labour Right.

calzino, Thursday, 15 June 2023 20:42 (one year ago) link

...which makes JC's tribute all the more generous, and suggestive of a broader acceptance of differing views than he's generally given credit for.

mike t-diva, Thursday, 15 June 2023 20:57 (one year ago) link

How dare Jambone Crumhorn say anything ever

two grills one tap (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 15 June 2023 21:11 (one year ago) link

he has consistently been very generous towards other party people like that, and it has rarely been reciprocated unless you could take a knife in the back as a friendly gesture. It's all very well being a nice guy, but they were going to destroy him even if he wasn't.

calzino, Thursday, 15 June 2023 21:12 (one year ago) link

I was living in Primrose Hill with a bunch of Balearic ravers and club runners from a fairly infamous estate in South London and they did terrace chants of GLENDA IS OUR LEADER, OUR LEADER, OUR LEADER when she was elected, which was the only bit of levity in the 1992 election. They were classic ex-terrace hoolies who’d had epiphanies about violence and racism while on pills in Ibiza, and every single one of them hated Thatcher for destroying any cohesion in their community of origin (and the rest).

BTW Glenda Jackson also told anyone who asked that she did not consider Jeremy Corbyn to be antisemitic and that his advocacy for Palestinians was the cause of the accusations.

steely flan (suzy), Friday, 16 June 2023 06:21 (one year ago) link

turd that won't flush transferred to new bowl

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FyvnYv5WcAIMp4a?format=jpg&name=large

rick semper moranis (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 16 June 2023 12:42 (one year ago) link

Now endless videos and pics of him jogging.

TY FRANCE HATES TEXAS CONFIRMED (gyac), Friday, 16 June 2023 12:51 (one year ago) link

"-and it'll be required that we only say nice things about him from now on"

xpost obv

Mark G, Friday, 16 June 2023 14:29 (one year ago) link

apparently johnson's first mail column will be essentially an advert for a new weight loss drug.

the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 16 June 2023 18:01 (one year ago) link

not 'apparently' it's already online.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/textbased/news/text-12203407/BORIS-JOHNSON-Wonder-drug-hoped-stop-raids-cheddar-chorizo-didnt-work-me.html

and yes, this an advert free way of checking/hatereading their site.

mark e, Friday, 16 June 2023 18:50 (one year ago) link

He's no Adrian Chiles.

Renaissance of the Celtic Trumpet (Tom D.), Friday, 16 June 2023 19:01 (one year ago) link

God that was a slog, makes me yearn for the exquisite prose of Adrian Chiles. Wonder who actually wrote it?

lolworthy xpost

darts macabre (Matt #2), Friday, 16 June 2023 19:03 (one year ago) link

I think they'll need endless videos and pics of him jogging for this column to work.

Renaissance of the Celtic Trumpet (Tom D.), Friday, 16 June 2023 19:07 (one year ago) link

Next column: the responsibilities of fatherhood.

darts macabre (Matt #2), Friday, 16 June 2023 19:10 (one year ago) link

... how to avoid them.

Renaissance of the Celtic Trumpet (Tom D.), Friday, 16 June 2023 19:16 (one year ago) link

Wes Streeting: ‘If I’m going out, I’m a binge drinker – terrible messaging for the shadow health secretary!’


Huge Hague/Gove energy from Wes

TWELVE Michelob stars?!? (seandalai), Saturday, 17 June 2023 13:06 (one year ago) link

Surely this is contraindicated by his recent health izsuesy

two grills one tap (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 17 June 2023 13:06 (one year ago) link

Lol typo got away from me

two grills one tap (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 17 June 2023 13:07 (one year ago) link

I'd be very surprised if Wes really is a binge drinker, it was only a few years ago he had major surgery for stomach cancer. Maybe he just wants the Westminster piss-head crew to think he's one of them.

calzino, Saturday, 17 June 2023 13:44 (one year ago) link

Kidney cancer (and if he’d had stomach cancer so young, that might be indicative of extra drinking).

steely flan (suzy), Saturday, 17 June 2023 16:42 (one year ago) link

ah, I remembered it wrong. If his posting is to be believed a steady diet of ultra processed beef from McDs would also put him at risk. Not that I believe anything this fucker says.

calzino, Saturday, 17 June 2023 17:33 (one year ago) link

I was probably born with the kidney cancer my doctor found when I was four, so I can’t really speak to that bit of his experience.

steely flan (suzy), Saturday, 17 June 2023 18:54 (one year ago) link

Even I as a non-dancer, am a bit embarrassed for them.

EXCLUSIVE: First ever Partygate video revealed as Tories drink, dance and laugh at Covid rulespic.twitter.com/vIHbuIqWWf

— The Mirror (@DailyMirror) June 17, 2023

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 18 June 2023 08:59 (one year ago) link

the tories are flailing. Strong Colin Hunt vibes from the male "dancer".

calzino, Sunday, 18 June 2023 09:14 (one year ago) link

wonder how long this video has been available to journalists who've chosen not to share it

i'm not particularly bothered by this party compared to the many government decisions which actually killed people during the pandemic, always interesting to see what's considered newsworthy and worthy of outrage showboating tho

two grills one tap (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 18 June 2023 09:19 (one year ago) link

I personally don't care either, but can understand why it's emotive to people who couldn't attend funerals or had family die alone and how UK media cynically publishes this stuff when it suits their agenda. Although saying that I detest funerals and would be happy to die alone, so perhaps I'm not normal!

calzino, Sunday, 18 June 2023 09:26 (one year ago) link

I'd like to believe that the Mirror sat on this for a period because they knew it would give people no motivation to obey the lockdown rules themselves if they saw this. But I think that's probably far too generous an interpretation. I'm also disgusted to read that apparently the Met knew this video existed but did nothing with it.

boxedjoy, Sunday, 18 June 2023 09:33 (one year ago) link

that the UK govt flouts their own rules isn't really as shocking as them rolling out policies that causes hundreds of thousands of people to die miserable, squalid deaths. I was reminded by a program last week the the first WCA related suicide happened some time before the 2010 GE results came in. This is why any partisan stuff from The Mirror doesn't really work for me, because the people with blood on their hands will likely be ministers in the next Labour govt.

calzino, Sunday, 18 June 2023 09:48 (one year ago) link

Another Con MP quits, another byelection.

the pinefox, Sunday, 18 June 2023 11:07 (one year ago) link

the complaints about him are malicious says the Tory MP who admitted he was sniffing cocaine and drinking "incredibly potent" Japanese whisky

calzino, Sunday, 18 June 2023 12:18 (one year ago) link

I like the BBC headline “I’ll expose my children to homelessness - William”. Not a practice that’s unknown to royal types, not sure people will approve nowadays .

a hallan shaker loon (dowd), Sunday, 18 June 2023 13:15 (one year ago) link

The prince also revealed when asked there are "absolutely" plans for social housing on the Duchy of Cornwall - the estate given to the heir of the throne, which provides him with an income.

great, another little Poundbury style model village from one of these parasitic fuckwits. So entitled and up his own arsehole he thinks becoming a landlord is an altruistic act.

calzino, Sunday, 18 June 2023 13:53 (one year ago) link

Can I defect from the UK to go and talk about this on North Korean podcastshttps://t.co/26JPnOes6k pic.twitter.com/JUp8zVBx8N

— Alice Podcasts (@AliceAvizandum) June 18, 2023

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 18 June 2023 17:37 (one year ago) link

let’s fuckin go babey, mad max by 2035 or gtfo

Another pledge broken pic.twitter.com/iv6DlsgEyr

— j (@jrc1921) June 18, 2023

rick semper moranis (bizarro gazzara), Sunday, 18 June 2023 17:46 (one year ago) link

NEW: Church of England clergy, represented by @unitetheunion, have for the first time in their history submitted a formal pay claim, as members struggle with the cost of living.

Vicars call for a 9.5% pay rise. Unite says the Church of England has billions in the bank & can pay.

— Taj Ali (@Taj_Ali1) June 19, 2023

xyzzzz__, Monday, 19 June 2023 09:26 (one year ago) link

for god and ulster

Ár an broc a mhic (darraghmac), Monday, 19 June 2023 09:57 (one year ago) link

EXC: Schools trans guidance revealed - with @NatashaC

- No pronoun or uniform change without parental consent

- No hiding changes from parents

- Head can say no to protect other kids

- Competitive sport protected - gender questioning pupils bannedhttps://t.co/HYhcApyhR7

— Harry Cole (@MrHarryCole) June 18, 2023

xyzzzz__, Monday, 19 June 2023 10:40 (one year ago) link

Tories are in massive trouble and it looks like Sunak has chosen to lash out at trans/non-binary people. Horrible.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 19 June 2023 11:03 (one year ago) link

Probably because you can't get away with open homophobia nowadays, so they choose the next marginal group down the list. Not helped by all the smug JKR-type transphobes slowly but surely pivoting to the far right!

darts macabre (Matt #2), Monday, 19 June 2023 11:23 (one year ago) link

Absolute depressing filth, what else is there to be said?

half the population ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ (gyac), Monday, 19 June 2023 11:28 (one year ago) link

i'd say the increasing screeching about Pride covers getting away with open homophobia, albeit this has been enabled by transphobic legitimate concerners all the way

two grills one tap (Noodle Vague), Monday, 19 June 2023 11:34 (one year ago) link

i've worked with trans kids in the past and some of them need protection from their parents, not subjection to their whims

two grills one tap (Noodle Vague), Monday, 19 June 2023 11:36 (one year ago) link

good to see government concerned about the sanctity of competitive sports in schools, because teens have been so well served by existing opportunities

https://www.theguardian.com/education/2022/mar/07/uk-girls-lose-interest-in-sport-as-teenagers-women-in-sport-survey

two grills one tap (Noodle Vague), Monday, 19 June 2023 11:40 (one year ago) link

Probably teach them to be better at evading authority, if anything. But yeah they’ve been going hard for Gillick for a while now and nobody in the press gives a fuck about it cos pRoNoUnS

half the population ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ (gyac), Monday, 19 June 2023 11:41 (one year ago) link

there are thousands of young people, not just trans kids but obviously including them, for whom school is a refuge from the fuckery of their home lives. obviously this needs to be stopped

two grills one tap (Noodle Vague), Monday, 19 June 2023 11:46 (one year ago) link

Mis-gendering is widespread irrespective of parental awareness and acceptance and not sure what kids can do about staff or peers not respecting their wish about pretty much anything. On uniform I suppose this is to some extent also about 'protecting' centuries of related bullshit like girls not allowed to wear trousers.

'No hiding changes from parents' is gibberish or maybe implies school staff are expected to snoop and ask parents if they know their kid has 'changed' in some way that might not be obvious to them but sounds (intentionally?) unworkable.

nashwan, Monday, 19 June 2023 11:59 (one year ago) link

It seems parents are a bit like the market, they know best.

Renaissance of the Celtic Trumpet (Tom D.), Monday, 19 June 2023 12:07 (one year ago) link

There's an article a few days ago in noted left-wing rag the Daily Mail where the Chief Rabbi points out that "schools must tell parents" is an enormous safeguarding failure.

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 19 June 2023 12:38 (one year ago) link

He's still gonna vote Tory tho

nashwan, Monday, 19 June 2023 12:40 (one year ago) link

child liberation now

your original display name is still visible (Left), Monday, 19 June 2023 13:35 (one year ago) link

parents are inherently reactionary as a political bloc and anything that empowers them abuses children by design

your original display name is still visible (Left), Monday, 19 June 2023 13:39 (one year ago) link

when I was 17 my stepdad threw me out the house for two nights upon learning of my homosexuality. I was lucky to have friends whose parents welcomed me in with open arms and didn't have any issue with it, and I went home on the condition that it was to be kept secret and not mentioned in case anyone else was embarassed by it. I only ever thought of myself as "lucky" in the few years after that, because my perspective was that it could have been (and I expected it to be) a lot worse, and it's only when I got I realised that actually, it was just shit and not something to ever forgive.

This is worse than Section 28, because Section 28 didn't come with a mandate to out me to my parents. If a teacher had told my stepdad there was a whiff of gayness about me I can only imagine how difficult my life would have become.

boxedjoy, Monday, 19 June 2023 20:14 (one year ago) link

Yeah, the idea they could "nip it in the bud" right?

Mark G, Monday, 19 June 2023 22:27 (one year ago) link

Probably because you can't get away with open homophobia nowadays, so they choose the next marginal group down the list.

This is the dynamic in the U.S., without a doubt.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 19 June 2023 22:31 (one year ago) link

It will be easy to fuck Starmer over bcz he won't have great answers to these. Johnson is a liar but he proved he could get Brexit over the line. What can Starmer offer?

OTOH we might be in a recession by then.

One frontbencher says a current online video of Starmer’s flip-flops is a taste of things to come.

"The general election campaign is going to be full of videos of Keir, ‘he said this, now he’s says that’.”pic.twitter.com/BK0IO7DkRC

— Paul Waugh (@paulwaugh) April 8, 2023

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 20 June 2023 13:11 (one year ago) link

the election campaigns, when they come, are likely to reflect badly on Sunak and Kieth because they're both terrible politicians (never mind terrible people). i can't see any result hinging on that, so it'll come down to the perceived state of the economy come the time, and the narrative that the media spin on that. anything Labour says between now and then will be focused on trying to keep the press onside

two grills one tap (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 20 June 2023 13:53 (one year ago) link

otm

Renaissance of the Celtic Trumpet (Tom D.), Tuesday, 20 June 2023 14:05 (one year ago) link

If only more people were like Waterstones Dad. I think my (popular nonfiction) book is a story of what happens when people decide that someone is a social problem for reading too much Steven Pinker. https://t.co/Y6SA4aNvRq

— Daniel Finkelstein (@Dannythefink) June 21, 2023

that 'Waterstones Dad' article doesn't seem like much more than low-effort reheated 2017 centrist dad discourse, but I think it's justifies its existence by prompting this insane tweet (Finkelstein's book is about how members of his family were persecuted in Nazi Germany and Stalin's Russia btw)

he thinks it's chinese money (soref), Wednesday, 21 June 2023 12:13 (one year ago) link

What’s this post got to do with anything

half the population ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ (gyac), Wednesday, 21 June 2023 12:29 (one year ago) link

anything Labour says between now and then will be focused on trying to keep the press onside

― two grills one tap (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 20 June 2023 bookmarkflaglink

Saw a post on twitter saying it's widely believed the Times will go for Labour but it's not the win that it might've been in the mid-90s.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 21 June 2023 13:07 (one year ago) link

I enjoyed the new centrist dad or w/e article a great deal, however this was 95% because it's in the new statesman and describes their own readers.

the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 21 June 2023 13:10 (one year ago) link

How is this different from £50 FOPP man?

steely flan (suzy), Wednesday, 21 June 2023 13:31 (one year ago) link

xp: it was also a copy of a years old joke tweet

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 21 June 2023 14:15 (one year ago) link

What’s this post got to do with anything

― half the population ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ (gyac), Wednesday, 21 June 2023 13:29 (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

why do you talk to everyone here like you're their line manager doing a performance review?

he thinks it's chinese money (soref), Wednesday, 21 June 2023 14:16 (one year ago) link

xp sorry for posting a question on a thread

half the population ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ (gyac), Wednesday, 21 June 2023 15:13 (one year ago) link

As a renter this country is far more interested in houses. They are more likely to have families, people in full-time work or the retired who have paid into the system.

The way people talk about the mortgage crisis compared to the rental crisis is so revealing. (Full disclosure: I have a mortgage)

Mortgage crisis: talk of the horrors of costs going up by hundreds of £ a month and the threat of people "losing their homes". Rental crisis: silence

— Rachel Cunliffe (@RMCunliffe) June 22, 2023

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 22 June 2023 10:31 (one year ago) link

I only click on New Statesman articles because I actively enjoy the way it just fades into white after a few lines.

nashwan, Thursday, 22 June 2023 10:40 (one year ago) link

"I read it for the article limits"

Alba, Thursday, 22 June 2023 22:16 (one year ago) link

🚨BREAKING: Junior doctors in England to escalate strike action.

Five-day strike from Thursday 13th July to Tuesday 18th July.

This will be the longest single period of industrial action in the history of the NHS.

— Taj Ali (@Taj_Ali1) June 23, 2023

xyzzzz__, Friday, 23 June 2023 13:19 (one year ago) link

Also three day rail strike

xyzzzz__, Friday, 23 June 2023 13:19 (one year ago) link

worth pointing out that this is not going to reduce the pain at all. people notoriously prioritise mortgages over all other bills; someone who is skipping mortgage payments will have cut consumption to the bone https://t.co/HNG3O4XY3P

— Dan Davies (@dsquareddigest) June 23, 2023

xyzzzz__, Friday, 23 June 2023 13:56 (one year ago) link

Long enough to cover the next election campaign of course

Renaissance of the Celtic Trumpet (Tom D.), Friday, 23 June 2023 14:06 (one year ago) link

The chief secretary to the treasury when we fell into our biggest financial crash post war, and the asshole who dug us into an even bigger hole by slashing govt spending after that crash want to give us lectures on economics? Like taking medical lectures off Shipman. https://t.co/BVq17bdOcE

— Chris Corney (@ChrisCorney1) June 29, 2023

seriously, these two ghouls should be sent on an enforced mariana trench trip in a carbon fiber submersible for all the damage they've done. A podcast for non-sentient economy thinktank molluscs, not for human beings who have had to live with the damage caused by these cunts.

calzino, Thursday, 29 June 2023 08:16 (one year ago) link

if a meteor has to crash into a podcast studio then I can't think of a better one.

will be interesting to see which supposedly centre-left "tory-hating" commentators express any kind of objection to this.

the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 29 June 2023 08:29 (one year ago) link

they could have called it "FAILING UP" maybe then somebody would listen

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 29 June 2023 08:44 (one year ago) link

I'm just trying to think about what they'd politically disagree on, possibly Trump would be a dividing line and that's probably about it.

calzino, Thursday, 29 June 2023 09:08 (one year ago) link

Rwanda asylum plan ruled unlawful... again.

Renaissance of the Celtic Trumpet (Tom D.), Thursday, 29 June 2023 09:14 (one year ago) link

... by Court of Appeal this time.

Renaissance of the Celtic Trumpet (Tom D.), Thursday, 29 June 2023 09:15 (one year ago) link

I'm just trying to think about what they'd politically disagree on, possibly Trump would be a dividing line and that's probably about it.

Osborne would want the NHS to be entirely privatized (and his mates get all the money), Balls would want there to be a public-private partnership (in which Osborne's mates get all the money).

Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 29 June 2023 09:31 (one year ago) link

the ideological differences of the UK political spectrum laid bare

calzino, Thursday, 29 June 2023 09:48 (one year ago) link

Balls thinks Osborne's titanium tax doesn't go too far enough

orcas who sign their posts like it's a freaking email (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 29 June 2023 09:53 (one year ago) link

I'm learning about grown up economics from the UK media commentariat today. It's bad for water companies to be nationalised because the taxpayer foots the bill and it requires govts to borrow heavily for infrastructure investment. It's good for water companies to borrow heavily/increase bills/cut infrastructure investment so they can pay £72 billion in shareholder dividends, because at least it doesn't require govt funding. That is until the hollowed out, heavily leveraged shell of the water company has run completely dry.

calzino, Thursday, 29 June 2023 10:08 (one year ago) link

Usually my TheyWorkForYou e-mails show a clean record of Abbott voting on the losing side of every vote, but today I was surprised that she voted yes on something that went through - apparently a bill allowing the Secretary of State to use funds to build a memorial in rememberance of the holocaust, as well as an associated learning centre. 10 votes against, by the way - 9 tories and one DUP.

Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 29 June 2023 10:48 (one year ago) link

for a second there I thought you meant she'd voted against it!

calzino, Thursday, 29 June 2023 10:52 (one year ago) link

surprisingly despite the shameful anti-semitism that holds hegemony over the labour left they all voted for it

Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 29 June 2023 10:58 (one year ago) link

Dead on arrival.

I wrote for the @NewStatesman about the lessons Keir Starmer should learn if he wants to avoid ending up like François Hollandehttps://t.co/N8PTorFm5X

— David Klemperer (@dmk1793) June 29, 2023

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 29 June 2023 12:35 (one year ago) link

Not reading that but in reply to the URL…. so_gonna_happen

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 29 June 2023 12:46 (one year ago) link

lol sorry i mean tweet, not URL but what’s the d’urgence these days

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 29 June 2023 12:46 (one year ago) link

Yeah not reading it either

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 29 June 2023 12:49 (one year ago) link

Does that mean we get our own Macron after Starmer. And our own Let Pen after that.

Zelda Zonk, Thursday, 29 June 2023 12:51 (one year ago) link

I don't know a lot about French politics, but my understanding was that hollande was elected with high expectations on a fairly left wing platform and then jettisoned many of his policy commitments and shifted to the right, starmer seems like he's making sure to disappoint everyone before he's actually elected

he thinks it's chinese money (soref), Thursday, 29 June 2023 12:55 (one year ago) link

Britain's most racist professor reckons Sunak not getting what he wants is good for Sunak actually

And are 'the British people' in the room with us now pic.twitter.com/uF1T7EfqLj

— Jeremy Noel-Tod (@jntod) June 29, 2023

nashwan, Thursday, 29 June 2023 13:00 (one year ago) link

every Goodwin treat can be reduced to 14 words

orcas who sign their posts like it's a freaking email (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 29 June 2023 13:47 (one year ago) link

hollande also famously was the actual President of France, triumphantly beating Sarkozy, and then decided not to seek re-election when his personal popularity had somewhat declined to.... 4%

his party now holds 27 of 577 seats in the national assembly

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 29 June 2023 15:46 (one year ago) link

Oh dear Zak has resigned, and obv takes the high ground

Mark G, Friday, 30 June 2023 09:29 (one year ago) link

He runnin for London mayor again or something

Toploader on the road, unite and take over (Bananaman Begins), Friday, 30 June 2023 09:38 (one year ago) link

Interesting as to why the Spanish government is set to lose elections next month:

Here are actual “hard choices” being implemented- the Spanish govt standing up to energy companies, landlords & business profiteering for the benefit of the people. When UK politicians invoke “hard choices” they means screwing the people for landlords, business and profiteers. https://t.co/SjpZAfzrh3

— Mr Demos of Pnyx (@gem_ste) June 30, 2023

xyzzzz__, Friday, 30 June 2023 09:47 (one year ago) link

xp ya unfortunately that's bad politics as majority of people want to be screwed lol

the best minds of my generation destroyed by woke (Bananaman Begins), Friday, 30 June 2023 10:14 (one year ago) link

if you're not permanently worse off and miserable is it even grownup politics?

orcas who sign their posts like it's a freaking email (Noodle Vague), Friday, 30 June 2023 10:19 (one year ago) link

it's more mature and serious to vote for a govt of corrupt lackeys that run down all public services and is a mere client of the financial markets, lol just the way it is I'm afraid.

calzino, Friday, 30 June 2023 10:38 (one year ago) link

Hilariously, it seems like Labour has now expelled Neal Lawson, head of soft-left thinktank Compass, for the heinous crime of describing cross-party co-operation scheme in Oxfordshire as "grown-up politics".

Piedie Gimbel, Friday, 30 June 2023 11:08 (one year ago) link

don't talk about any of the Scottish Labour/Conservative council shenanigans that have been going on then. That will definitely get you booted out of the party as well.

calzino, Friday, 30 June 2023 11:17 (one year ago) link

xp ya unfortunately that's bad politics as majority of people want to be screwed lol

― the best minds of my generation destroyed by woke (Bananaman Begins), Friday, 30 June 2023 bookmarkflaglink

Lool we probably need a bit more info before coming to that conclusion. Not everywhere is England.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 30 June 2023 11:57 (one year ago) link

Only really pay attention to foreign politics to extent necessary to confirm my pre-existing prejudices tbrr

the best minds of my generation destroyed by woke (Bananaman Begins), Friday, 30 June 2023 12:04 (one year ago) link

Lol

I think of the support I gave Keir Starmer, personally, publicly, to win the leadership, when he absolutely knew I held these views that are apparently now anathema to the Labour Project. I thought I was too old to be disappointed in a politician.

— @zoesqwilli✧✧✧@min✧✧✧.soc✧✧✧ (@zoesqwilliams) June 30, 2023

xyzzzz__, Friday, 30 June 2023 15:04 (one year ago) link

This is a hell of a story. Besides being presumably completely illegal, they thought it would be a good idea to invite *checks notes* WIll Hutton??

https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/secret-email-severn-trent-boss-070627641.html

Tracer Hand, Friday, 30 June 2023 15:08 (one year ago) link

Hilarious how Liz Truss has kept being blamed. Only 40 days as PM.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 30 June 2023 15:17 (one year ago) link

that Zoe Williams tweet is so delicious i think i've put on more weight

orcas who sign their posts like it's a freaking email (Noodle Vague), Friday, 30 June 2023 16:03 (one year ago) link

lol it’s true

Tracer Hand, Friday, 30 June 2023 16:13 (one year ago) link

Muahaha! Three years into the biggest Labour Right led factional purge of members since the Kinnock years and Zoe isn't playing anymore because they've gone after one of her soft-left drinking buddies.

calzino, Friday, 30 June 2023 17:26 (one year ago) link

I don’t say this lightly, but if Starmer, or anyone from his frontbench team who have remained silent as Labour has thrown LGBTQ+ people under the bus, show up at #LondonPride they deserve to be heckled.

They’re taking the votes of queer people for granted. https://t.co/obp9oqirH2

— Alex Feis-Bryce (@Alex_FeisBryce) June 30, 2023

half the population ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ (gyac), Friday, 30 June 2023 17:51 (one year ago) link

making these people unwelcome wherever they go is praxis

orcas who sign their posts like it's a freaking email (Noodle Vague), Friday, 30 June 2023 17:55 (one year ago) link

because I never let anything go and I'm a dickhead - I just can't help remembering when OJ and ZW were both urging Corbyn to step down as leader. It seemed quite obvious at the time that any of the other leadership front runners would be at least as terrible as Starmer is. It sounds like OJ might have learned something in the intervening years since but ZW is an incorrigible graun brained melt.

calzino, Friday, 30 June 2023 18:50 (one year ago) link

it's warming up nicely

Of course Labour can't possibly eject Neal Lawson of Compass for a 2-year-old tweet of great good sense. Even to threaten risks stirring a mighty rebellion - and not by the usual suspects. The majority of the members voted for proportional representation! Sack the lot?

— Polly Toynbee (@pollytoynbee) June 30, 2023

and this shows pretty clearly that it's not about political differences, it's about cliques and cronies

orcas who sign their posts like it's a freaking email (Noodle Vague), Friday, 30 June 2023 19:25 (one year ago) link

Labour can’t possibly be dismissive of its own membership’s concerns

Grandall Flange (wins), Friday, 30 June 2023 19:38 (one year ago) link

"a mighty rebellion" heh! classic Toynbee

calzino, Friday, 30 June 2023 19:40 (one year ago) link

i assume she's asked to speak to the manager

orcas who sign their posts like it's a freaking email (Noodle Vague), Friday, 30 June 2023 19:45 (one year ago) link

Just something to think there would be a rebellion over...Neal from er, Compass.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 30 June 2023 20:54 (one year ago) link

transport and tax incentives are no substitute for a development plan. (also - you could have put a tram system in every British town over 500k population for the money spent on this white elephant) https://t.co/vDcE3Ml69B

— Dan Davies (@dsquareddigest) July 1, 2023

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 1 July 2023 10:51 (one year ago) link

some say the IRA's own development plan for CW was a wicked act, but think of the long term benefits if they had used a more powerful bomb!

calzino, Saturday, 1 July 2023 11:06 (one year ago) link

the Jess Phillips vs Katharine Birbalsingh twitter beef is way too grim to pick a side, but Phillips actually comes out of it looking the biggest arsehole as usual. Birbalsingh has wrote a tldr letter of complaint to Kieth about the incident in which she alleges Babs has unconscious bias issues with black people on the conservative end of the pol spectrum. Probably not correct because Abbott is not a conservative and Phillips had issues with her as well for shome mysterious reason

calzino, Saturday, 1 July 2023 14:24 (one year ago) link

one of those arguments where you hope they both lose

the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 1 July 2023 14:47 (one year ago) link

losing is the bare minimum i wish for them

orcas who sign their posts like it's a freaking email (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 1 July 2023 14:56 (one year ago) link

Big day for fearless British journalism as the Guardian publishes an article Will Hutton was paid to write by the CEO’s of private water firms https://t.co/xpXOgeH9ME

— Metal Bizkit Rising (@allforthanookie) July 2, 2023

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 2 July 2023 18:04 (one year ago) link

he could have at least reeled off some examples of the success of privatising water from around the globe, oh I see nobody else does it apart from Chile and it's a Pinochet legacy.

calzino, Sunday, 2 July 2023 18:28 (one year ago) link

"But in the utilities especially – and I would argue more generally – successful companies must unite their stakeholders around a common purpose."

you've just got the simple task of persuading greedy parasitic speculators and foreign investment firms that some negligible quantity of less shit pumped into the waterways of England and Wales means means you get lower share dividends and this is a good thing.

calzino, Sunday, 2 July 2023 18:50 (one year ago) link

Today's atrocity:

The BDS bill is having its first debate in parliament today, just hours after Israel launched its biggest Israeli military assault on the West Bank in years.

At 2.30pm, Palestinian children will be dying in Jenin hospitals as Tory MPs tell us that to oppose this is anti-semitic.

— Rivkah Brown (@RivkahBrown) July 3, 2023

xyzzzz__, Monday, 3 July 2023 10:32 (one year ago) link

Reading this thread from an incredibly brave woman and you see how the trans panic distracts from the issues we face.

There've been thousands of tweets full of hate, cruelty & attempts at ridicule directed at me this week. But it's #Pride weekend, queers are & always will be queers, and you can't erase us. Here's me & my kid having fun watching @AidaHDeeDrag story time at #Pride yesterday. https://t.co/WrQXaWznx0 pic.twitter.com/Nq2iddnyjx

— Mika Minio-Paluello (@mikaminio) July 2, 2023

xyzzzz__, Monday, 3 July 2023 12:51 (one year ago) link

Katharine Birbalsingh's tweets becoming increasingly dril-like

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F0DRkkKXoAEb7ZC?format=jpg&name=900x900

he thinks it's chinese money (soref), Monday, 3 July 2023 13:02 (one year ago) link

thanks mainly to "withering financial support from Central Government" the respite centre at the NAS run Robert Ogden school is closing at extremely short notice. It's just a small regional story of austerity stripping away essential services, but it will be devastating for lots of young autistic people and their carers. My heart nearly stopped when I got told a muddled version of events and thought they were closing the school, but it is still awfully sad. Anyway, fuck this heartless right-wing tory country and all its garbage political parties.

calzino, Monday, 3 July 2023 17:50 (one year ago) link

Will Hutton: love water companies. Social business.

Pollution released by Thames Water turned river black, court hears https://t.co/tz71Kvtyyx

— BBC News (UK) (@BBCNews) July 3, 2023

xyzzzz__, Monday, 3 July 2023 20:05 (one year ago) link

doesn't look like we've mentioned farage's latest debacle yet. 'the woke banks are all out to get me'...

koogs, Wednesday, 5 July 2023 08:10 (one year ago) link

it was mentioned on the Novashite Media thread. Just another opportunity for the bbc to interview their favourite blustering racist about a non-story. Or as Bastani would have it - it's a serious civil rights issue.

calzino, Wednesday, 5 July 2023 08:15 (one year ago) link

these fuckers

Society is broken when these people feel confident to say these things on camera with their faces uncovered pic.twitter.com/GyRxILUuPR

— Mic Wright is reporting. (@brokenbottleboy) July 4, 2023

the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 5 July 2023 08:27 (one year ago) link

This is another one, it does sound like some lame landlords are getting screwed.

Turns out he’s getting absolutely hammered pic.twitter.com/B9Li5h8F53

— Mike Cosgrove (@mikecosgrove) July 4, 2023

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 5 July 2023 15:24 (one year ago) link

"smashing the class ceiling"

hackneyed soundbite about adding elocution lessons to the national curriculum. I think funding free school meals would be a better idea. It's not like as if loads of kids start talking in an rp voice then structural inequalities will be broken through, more fucking insipid shite from the Labour brains trust.

calzino, Thursday, 6 July 2023 08:11 (one year ago) link

It's surprising how often I still hear quite intelligent people say things like 'not long till we get the Tories out'.

I seem to be more unusual than I had thought in thinking that the potential replacement government is equally bad.

the pinefox, Thursday, 6 July 2023 08:15 (one year ago) link

I think I'd actually prefer Hunt continuing as the scared-to-break-anything post Truss chancellor over Reeves, she seems like a ruthlessly malevolent psychopath and she might actually have some dangerous ideas about dealing with the *economically inactive*. i.e. ppl like me!

calzino, Thursday, 6 July 2023 08:34 (one year ago) link

(xxp) He surely didn't mention elocution lessons did he? I did hear him droning on this morning about how his dad was a toolfitter or whatever he supposedly was. Like anyone gives a fuck.

Foot Heads Arms Body (Tom D.), Thursday, 6 July 2023 08:40 (one year ago) link

"The ability to speak well and express yourself should be something that every child is entitled to and should master,"

"But the curriculum doesn't allow us to provide this. This is short-sighted. An inability to articulate your thoughts fluently is a key barrier to getting on and thriving in life.

calzino, Thursday, 6 July 2023 08:42 (one year ago) link

ironic given the lawyer-bureaucrat-politician verbal mush he spouts

Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Thursday, 6 July 2023 08:50 (one year ago) link

Yes. He does not talk fluently at all.

the pinefox, Thursday, 6 July 2023 08:52 (one year ago) link

I think the policy is about communicating confidently rather than actually elocution, but maybe working class kids would communicate more confidently if anyone listened or cared about what they had to say when they spoke? Idk I’m not a big brain Labour leader though.

half the population ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ (gyac), Thursday, 6 July 2023 08:59 (one year ago) link

A lot of MPs articulating their wants in the HoC.

EXC - In rare move, parliamentary aide goes on record to say she’s “very angry” with harassment & sexual misconduct around HoC. 25yr old Ellie Varley says she was asked to sit on MP’s lap & felt she had no choice but to do so “to get him off my case” 1/ https://t.co/wXTZKtAN5k

— Sima Kotecha (@sima_kotecha) July 5, 2023

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 6 July 2023 09:26 (one year ago) link

Starmer claims Just Stop Oil are 'riddled with arrogance' and says he can't wait for their protests to stop

Some people have too many rights eh Keef

nashwan, Thursday, 6 July 2023 10:23 (one year ago) link

Fantastic!

🚨🚨

one of the youngsters placed behind Starmer for his education speech starts heckling him about watering down the £28bn green promise - before being escorted off the premises pic.twitter.com/TReh2wD9RW

— Jim Pickard 🐋 (@PickardJE) July 6, 2023

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 6 July 2023 10:37 (one year ago) link

when your props aren't supposed to talk back

orcas who sign their posts like it's a freaking email (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 6 July 2023 10:49 (one year ago) link

“Wish I could tase you, bro”

half the population ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ (gyac), Thursday, 6 July 2023 10:55 (one year ago) link

"which side are the labour party on?"

"we are on the side of economic growth"

conrad, Thursday, 6 July 2023 11:05 (one year ago) link

"thank you very much, thaaaank you very much, thaaank you very much, thaaank you"

polite!

conrad, Thursday, 6 July 2023 11:07 (one year ago) link

Starmer says, if Labour takes power, it will inherit an economy that is badly damaged. It won’t be like 1997, he says.

I guess when you're *double digits* ahead you can aim this low.

nashwan, Thursday, 6 July 2023 11:10 (one year ago) link

i wonder if any previous Labour governments took over a fucked economy and achieved anything

orcas who sign their posts like it's a freaking email (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 6 July 2023 11:32 (one year ago) link

“We can’t do anything good because of the mess we inherited from the previous lot” is 2010 Tory austerity chat, literally the exact same line. I don’t know how much more evidence anyone needs of the cunt continuity we’re saddled with whatever happens at the GE but some ppl love to get their wallets inspected

Grandall Flange (wins), Thursday, 6 July 2023 12:25 (one year ago) link

Due to rate rises and gilt market stuff there probably is a lot of pressure on what the chancellor/Treasury can do. Even if we had an anti-austerity chancellor it might've been difficult.

Though there are things government can do to alleviate poverty and we could put in rent controls.

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 6 July 2023 12:40 (one year ago) link

tough on poverty, tough on people in poverty

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 6 July 2023 12:49 (one year ago) link

lmao

vexingvexillologist, Thursday, 6 July 2023 13:26 (one year ago) link

Found a better video :)

Sir Keir Starmer's major education speech is disrupted by climate protesters who ask him if he'll reinstate Labour's pledge to commit £28bn to tackling climate change pic.twitter.com/2OlSYwIP1c

— ITV News Politics (@ITVNewsPolitics) July 6, 2023

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 6 July 2023 14:21 (one year ago) link

God what a cunt. Good on them

Grandall Flange (wins), Thursday, 6 July 2023 15:48 (one year ago) link

Cannot get over the repeated 'thank you v much'. What a fucking piece of cardboard.

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 6 July 2023 16:31 (one year ago) link

Because Luke’s been telling everyone what happened that night in 2019. With you and that girl in a toilet cubicle. That girl who couldn’t even stand up. Remember her?

LaMDA barry-stanners (||||||||), Thursday, 6 July 2023 19:46 (one year ago) link

How about that little girl in Bruton you came across that night? Remember that? Did you know she’d only just turned 16? How old were you then, George, 49?

LaMDA barry-stanners (||||||||), Thursday, 6 July 2023 19:48 (one year ago) link

Bumped his own thread but i had no idea that MF Doom's death was an NHS fuck-up or that he had died in Leeds:

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2023/jul/06/leeds-hospital-trust-apologises-after-rapper-mf-doom-died-in-its-care?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other

NickB, Thursday, 6 July 2023 20:42 (one year ago) link

yeah, I had no idea that he died in Leeds as well

calzino, Thursday, 6 July 2023 20:54 (one year ago) link

Wow.

Foot Heads Arms Body (Tom D.), Thursday, 6 July 2023 20:59 (one year ago) link

actually flashing back here. I think I remember being surprised that he had died in Leeds at the time when it was mentioned in various obits, but had completely forgotten this.

calzino, Thursday, 6 July 2023 21:03 (one year ago) link

i just remember his death was announced quite a while after he'd passed away

NickB, Thursday, 6 July 2023 21:05 (one year ago) link

oh yeah, that as well

calzino, Thursday, 6 July 2023 21:12 (one year ago) link

itv just covered starmer speech without mentioning the protest at all

koogs, Thursday, 6 July 2023 21:19 (one year ago) link

despite the video upthread being from itv Twitter

koogs, Thursday, 6 July 2023 21:20 (one year ago) link

not sure if I can share it directly on here, but this tweet has a link to the George Osborne email people are talking about this morning

George Osborne is a political piece of shit, sure, but a part of the email that I've not seen a single comment on yet is the rape accusation on line 56

A girl who "[can't] even stand up" can't consenthttps://t.co/doxnwdpWFx

— Seph Hallow (@SephHallow) July 7, 2023

the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 7 July 2023 06:53 (one year ago) link

I've got no idea what's going on here but my mind is somewhat blown by George Osborne being only 52.

Foot Heads Arms Body (Tom D.), Friday, 7 July 2023 07:11 (one year ago) link

it's an anonymous email sent to all the guests at his wedding + apparently everyone in tory politics & the media. so gossip about an utter cunt circulated among a load of other cunts. however does contain some very serious allegations and probably the best shot he has at any consequences for his crimes

the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 7 July 2023 07:25 (one year ago) link

The communist revolution in 2035 is another chance.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 7 July 2023 07:29 (one year ago) link

Osborne is a very bad man but god the style of that email, couldn't finish it

Ditto.

Foot Heads Arms Body (Tom D.), Friday, 7 July 2023 09:12 (one year ago) link

teachers retire early because of Ofsted, a teacher even killed herself because of Ofsted. The inspectors usually don’t have a clue about teaching. Absolutely insane this. What a way to get literally every single teacher out on the picket line https://t.co/rud3gHE1Ss

— tom (@tomrade_) July 7, 2023

xyzzzz__, Friday, 7 July 2023 09:56 (one year ago) link

Ofsted, like means testing, is at the core of right wing Labour DNA. it's all about the managerialism, bureaucracy, "playing by the rules", respectability. this whole insulting speaking lessons so poor kids can pass as middle class. when Labourites talk about aspiration what they mean is everybody should aspire to join the bourgeoisie, and if you don't then you can be happily ignored and left to your service jobs, serving the aspirational well-spoken real people

and the education system that offers nothing except prepping tools for their appropriate slot in the workforce isn't wrong-headed, it just needs MORE utilitarianism, more league tables, more outcomes, more numbers

once my year 6 son finished his SATs suddenly school was such a happier place, teachers taught what they wanted, kids were suddenly engaged and interested

Tracer Hand, Friday, 7 July 2023 11:06 (one year ago) link

I had an Ofsted inspector on the phone earlier. My son has been selected as a sample student to observe at the SEND college he attends. When the college have been crap I've been quick to let them know about it, but they are doing a great job now. Still I'd never say anything negative or critical about the college to an inspector, that would be nasty. The poor staff have had them in since yesterday now and all seem on high levels of stressed outness.

calzino, Friday, 7 July 2023 11:15 (one year ago) link

I just typed a long post about our last Ofsted inspection but eh, what's the point? The whole process is cunty, for all involved. I could be generous and say some of the outcomes were positive but the way it's delivered is so ugly. Anyone who has been in contact with the process is scarred by it. Why does no one listen to this?

(picnic, lightning) very very frightening (Chinaski), Friday, 7 July 2023 11:36 (one year ago) link

Obviously what we need is four times as many Ofsted inspections.

Foot Heads Arms Body (Tom D.), Friday, 7 July 2023 11:55 (one year ago) link

this is entirely with Starmer’s annoying middle manager character sheet

“senior leadership feel the business will operate better if we have 4 performance reviews per year”

Tracer Hand, Friday, 7 July 2023 11:59 (one year ago) link

IN KEEPING with

Tracer Hand, Friday, 7 July 2023 11:59 (one year ago) link

Scottish government wants drug possession to be legalhttps://t.co/XZQxyfOfoN

— BBC Scotland News (@BBCScotlandNews) July 7, 2023

xyzzzz__, Friday, 7 July 2023 12:25 (one year ago) link

a rational and necessary legal change that will no doubt be met with thoughtful discussion from the other parties and the media

> speaking lessons so poor kids can pass as middle class.

what if they use their new found assertiveness to point out your own hypocrisy at u-turns in eco promises?

koogs, Friday, 7 July 2023 14:18 (one year ago) link

You will be thanked for your contribution to the debate ofc

xyzzzz__, Friday, 7 July 2023 14:50 (one year ago) link

i was gonna say "oratory" instead of "speaking lessons" but i suspect that what's proposed isn't anything as sophisticated as oratory, it will literally be "being appropriate at work"

The speech equivalent of covering up your tattoos (if they're not hands or face)

Andrew Farrell, Friday, 7 July 2023 16:39 (one year ago) link

Feeling despair and hopelessness because of the gross inequities of the UK class system and from a poor background? You need to ingratiate yourself with people who consider you a lower class of lifeform by talking like a total prick - that's all that is preventing you from becoming a useful person.

As has already been posted, you couldn't find a worse example of a person (re: their oratory skills) to announce a garbage policy like this. Nothing about student fees and grants for students from poor backgrounds or free school meals. I wouldn't vote Labour if someone tried to force me to at gunpoint.

calzino, Friday, 7 July 2023 18:01 (one year ago) link

For a foresmic King’s Counsel he is an incredibly weak public speaker, flubs like “the family outstairs” quite common in prepared speeches, easily rattled, general mien of a supply teacher

His poor articulation doesn’t seem to have impeded his opportunities much but I’m sure it’s all that’s standing in the way of poor BAME kids and nothing else needs to be addressed ever

Grandall Flange (wins), Friday, 7 July 2023 18:11 (one year ago) link

yeah I wonder if talking fluently in an establishment approved style will shield BAME kids from racist police officers who abuse their stop and search powers

calzino, Friday, 7 July 2023 18:20 (one year ago) link

You forget Starmer comes from a Four Yorkshiremen Sketch background where his entire family spoke in inarticulate grunts and he was the first in his family to master human speech.

Foot Heads Arms Body (Tom D.), Friday, 7 July 2023 18:28 (one year ago) link

that might have been his "humble toolmaker" dad, who Starmer is loath to mention - was actually the fucking senior management of this factory!

calzino, Friday, 7 July 2023 18:31 (one year ago) link

the humble toolmaker created one hell of a tool tbh

NickB, Friday, 7 July 2023 18:57 (one year ago) link

it just makes me think if we'd had the equivalent of Mao's cultural revolution in the UK, his dad might have got thrown off a bridge or beaten to death by an angry mob before he had a chance to conceive him!

calzino, Friday, 7 July 2023 19:32 (one year ago) link

Get him, Rishi!

So after promising a new era of "integrity" and "grown up" politics, Rishi Sunak now plans to resurrect exactly the same disgraceful smears used by Boris Johnson against his opponents. pic.twitter.com/G4eoXcKzNU

— Adam Bienkov (@AdamBienkov) July 8, 2023

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 8 July 2023 18:32 (one year ago) link

I love disgraceful smears - but tbf this cunt was DPP and Savile DID NOT get prosecuted under his watch - so fair game.

calzino, Saturday, 8 July 2023 18:41 (one year ago) link

the Starmer fans will be posting about how close Savile was with Thatcher and the Conservative Party, oooh you've got them there.

calzino, Saturday, 8 July 2023 18:53 (one year ago) link

Well, Starmer publicly agreed with his party's attack ad that implied that Sunak personally wanted paedos to get lighter sentences, based off the legal guidelines that Sir Keir was involved in drafting.

Live by the sword, get shanked.

Also when you have made lying like a snake your personal brand, you can't complain about any dirty tricks.

glumdalclitch, Saturday, 8 July 2023 18:59 (one year ago) link

Apologies to my snake brethren, you are without any hyperbole morally and spiritually superior to Sir Keir Starmer

glumdalclitch, Saturday, 8 July 2023 19:01 (one year ago) link

Sir Kieth must apologise

orcas who sign their posts like it's a freaking email (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 8 July 2023 19:15 (one year ago) link

As the world records its hottest ever week, Labour sources brief the Sunday Times that Keir Starmer "hates tree huggers" and wants to ditch the party's green agenda pic.twitter.com/8XIrbNZFVT

— Adam Bienkov (@AdamBienkov) July 9, 2023

lol we're all very much gonna die

Just the stupidest cunt imaginable

Oh no. I'm going to go all whiny centrist dad. But I can't help it. This is just a horrible thing to do on someone's wedding. Just maybe leave them the fuck alone. https://t.co/vxcmaWeBMk

— Ian Dunt (@IanDunt) July 9, 2023

half the population ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ (gyac), Sunday, 9 July 2023 10:32 (one year ago) link

Oh the humanity! Someone's attacked George Osborne with confetti!

Foot Heads Arms Body (Tom D.), Sunday, 9 July 2023 10:38 (one year ago) link

this is a real 'If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face for ever' of an image

https://i.imgur.com/q1MrGcQ.png

he thinks it's chinese money (soref), Sunday, 9 July 2023 10:38 (one year ago) link

New campaign song.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLalJpRsrGQ

Foot Heads Arms Body (Tom D.), Sunday, 9 July 2023 10:42 (one year ago) link

it's just a pity they weren't throwing confetti at Gideon's funeral

calzino, Sunday, 9 July 2023 10:43 (one year ago) link

The cause of Labour is the no hope of the world

he thinks it's chinese money (soref), Sunday, 9 July 2023 10:45 (one year ago) link

Dunt is toxic jelly

Bet you Dorian agrees with him. Hi Dorian! If you see this, you’re still a cunt!

half the population ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ (gyac), Sunday, 9 July 2023 11:15 (one year ago) link

I genuinely thought this was a parody when I first saw it.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F0k396dXgAEmUdi.jpg

Piedie Gimbel, Sunday, 9 July 2023 12:03 (one year ago) link

The melts are questioning the source but it's easily as likely to be Labour spin as it is those nasty Tories

even with a work of fictional dialogue they always have to portray Ed as the chumpish loser

calzino, Sunday, 9 July 2023 12:35 (one year ago) link

https://twitter.com/BRYN_BORANGA/status/1678037291502120974?t=c6aG-AWH0KR50rcX9iyqVA&s=19

the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Sunday, 9 July 2023 13:59 (one year ago) link

twitter embeds broken now?

the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Sunday, 9 July 2023 14:00 (one year ago) link

🚨NEW: Railway workers on Eurostar have secured a significant pay rise following negotiations between @RMTunion and management.

All staff on £45,000 or below will get a minimum uplift of £4,300.

Pay deal is worth between 8-17% depending on grade and role.

— Taj Ali (@Taj_Ali1) July 11, 2023

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 11 July 2023 16:33 (one year ago) link

hell fucking yes

that would have been a lot harder if the UK still had a 50% stake…

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 11 July 2023 16:38 (one year ago) link

Better vote for them anyway tho #GTTI

Grandall Flange (wins), Tuesday, 11 July 2023 16:51 (one year ago) link

because of the economic devastation caused by the Truss mini-budget and Putin's invasion of Ukraine ... blah blah ad infinitum. Regretfully, now a prospective centre-right Labour govt led by someone just as evil and dishonest as any Tory. They will have to commit to the damaging and dangerous austerity/PFI ideas that is in the party's DNA and the watered down to meaningless flagship green policy - all shit stuff that they were going to do anyway, under any circumstances. Oh such difficult decisions for them to make.

calzino, Tuesday, 11 July 2023 17:57 (one year ago) link

as a non-economist I'm curious why these sensible pragmatists can't offer ballpark aspirations for public spending based on forecasts for tax take etc. even within the framework of their own arbitrary rules they seem evasive and dishonest and unable to articulate any kind of positive vision - their rhetoric betrays their nihilism at every turn

orcas who sign their posts like it's a freaking email (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 11 July 2023 18:10 (one year ago) link

sorry, I'm in a stupid place, I know they answer to my own half-baked thoughts. this is a party machine run by people with absolute contempt for voters and they operate on the principle that ideas are bad and confusing.

also of course they are nihilists but

orcas who sign their posts like it's a freaking email (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 11 July 2023 18:13 (one year ago) link

i can't remember where i read this but we're still living in the reagan "regime". politicians believe that in order to be taken seriously they must make sure that the principles of the market are the principles of society. all the hedging of starmer et al, the abdication of any vestige of corbynism, is obeisance to this regime. there are signs of regime change - the appetite for state action is growing, there's a trend there - but rather than get ahead of this wave starmer is determined to stay behind it, where he thinks the water is safe, which, to be fair, politically, it essentially has been since the early 80s

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 11 July 2023 21:58 (one year ago) link

please let this happen

Hahahaha pic.twitter.com/MvmJfU9xAa

— j (@jrc1921) July 12, 2023

the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 12 July 2023 06:49 (one year ago) link

Perfect.

Foot Heads Arms Body (Tom D.), Wednesday, 12 July 2023 06:59 (one year ago) link

lol, amazing.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 12 July 2023 07:18 (one year ago) link

I'm guessing they feel they need a "name" candidate because they're being told by people on the ground that Corbyn is likely to win. Which reminds me that I was phoned by a polling company about a year ago and asked, among other things, if I'd vote for Corbyn if he ran as an independent.

Foot Heads Arms Body (Tom D.), Wednesday, 12 July 2023 07:41 (one year ago) link

heard they are also considering Luciana Berger, which would be the same result but less funny

the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 12 July 2023 07:49 (one year ago) link

you need a mission specialist like Paul to take on Corbyn, some low value person who the party doesn't give a fuck about and has previous experience of rejection and failure.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 12 July 2023 08:07 (one year ago) link

LB is the epitome of a spoiled Habs old girl, let her lose there too.

steely flan (suzy), Wednesday, 12 July 2023 08:11 (one year ago) link

apparently she was appalling to her staffers and she's a dreadful melt

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 12 July 2023 08:13 (one year ago) link

but I think the party will see her as too high value to waste on a lost cause

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 12 July 2023 08:14 (one year ago) link

Would imagine Berger is being lined up for somewhere she can actually win, probably not Liverpool this time lol. But if they did put her up against Corbyn then there would obviously be a certain discourse we would have to go through again.

the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 12 July 2023 08:16 (one year ago) link

also relevant to note

As a student activist and new Labour MP, Berger was romantically linked to Tony Blair's son Euan and with Chuka Umunna

the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 12 July 2023 08:18 (one year ago) link

Tonty took her under his wing at an early age and she seems to have stayed there

the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 12 July 2023 08:19 (one year ago) link

Are there many Welsh speakers in Islington North?

AlanSmithee, Wednesday, 12 July 2023 08:23 (one year ago) link

The whole world is represented in Islington North.

Body Odour Ultra Low Emission Zone (Tom D.), Wednesday, 12 July 2023 08:29 (one year ago) link

being the anti-Corbyn candidate in Islington N requires either great stupidity or hubris - qualities Mason has plenty of in equal measure!

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 12 July 2023 08:37 (one year ago) link

I think LB wants to stand in Golders Green and Finchley? She ran there last time as a Lib Dem but it’s where she’s actually from or where she has lived as an adult.

She totally dated Chuka but always denies her friendship with Euan Blair was a relationship.

steely flan (suzy), Wednesday, 12 July 2023 08:46 (one year ago) link

So she moved to 2 different opposition parties, stood for the Lib Dems, and is now fine to stand as a Labour MP again.

When you have it laid out in front of you the hypocrisy is comical.

glumdalclitch, Wednesday, 12 July 2023 13:47 (one year ago) link

at least she didn't make a single tweet broadly in support of tactical voting a few years ago eh?

the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 12 July 2023 13:56 (one year ago) link

Whenever anyone on the right of Labour is described as ‘talented’ by others in that group, I’m always left wondering what they could possibly mean. Talented at opening and shutting briefcases?

steely flan (suzy), Wednesday, 12 July 2023 14:25 (one year ago) link

The talent is not being seduced by dumb shit like humanity or wanting to reduce inequality

orcas who sign their posts like it's a freaking email (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 12 July 2023 14:27 (one year ago) link

BBC journalists constantly talking about "junior doctors say they've had below-inflation pay-rises for years" - this isn't a question of opinion, it's on the historical record and you can look it up and report it as a fact. obviously somebody prefers to present it as doubtful claim

orcas who sign their posts like it's a freaking email (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 13 July 2023 09:28 (one year ago) link

Millions of public sector workers, including teachers, police and junior doctors to get pay rises between 5-7%, UK government sayshttps://t.co/3U2SzSrR6A

— BBC Breaking News (@BBCBreaking) July 13, 2023

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 13 July 2023 12:50 (one year ago) link

The government will help fund public sector pay increases by “significantly” raising fees for migrants’ visa applications and NHS access, Rishi Sunak said.

Setting it up nicely for an incoming Lab govt to continue along the same path

I fell asleep at kabuki (Matt #2), Thursday, 13 July 2023 12:59 (one year ago) link

There is no new money there apart from the idea of getting migrants to pay for it, which is so utterly craven - and, I think, delusional - I can absolutely accept that it came from this government.

Hilarious that Rishi kept saying he couldn't agree to the 6% pay recommendations because it would be inflationary, and now he says he can after all - as long as austerity is reimposed. It's not about inflation at all. It's about squeezing the state dry.

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 13 July 2023 13:18 (one year ago) link

those "out-of-touch unelected judges" have made some good rulings recently. lol at Kwarteng's political legacy

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 13 July 2023 18:24 (one year ago) link

Even if it were a good policy, I cannot see how migrants' visa fees can begin to cover public sector pay rises.

the pinefox, Thursday, 13 July 2023 18:27 (one year ago) link

it's got to the point where policies don't need to workable or have any practical use at all, as long they sound punitive enough towards anyone who isn't British then it's good to go.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 13 July 2023 18:39 (one year ago) link

probably a fair amount of immigrants coming here will be people coming to work in the public sector as nurses etc

NickB, Thursday, 13 July 2023 19:59 (one year ago) link

when i worked in a s/w house, we once got raided by the home office as someone had tipped them off re us having illegals.
meant that the next day we all had to take in our passports to prove we were who we were.
the so called illegals, were developers over from our chicago office who all had valid visas.
however, the process and interviews that the chicago crew had to go through was intense and very intimidating.
and this was over 10 years ago.
i dread to think how things are now.

mark e, Thursday, 13 July 2023 20:11 (one year ago) link

Teachers Unions leaders are a disgrace for recommending this offer.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 14 July 2023 10:03 (one year ago) link

I suspect our union will accept it.

Body Odour Ultra Low Emission Zone (Tom D.), Friday, 14 July 2023 10:10 (one year ago) link

A good thing about social media is how it facilitates chat around how shit a lot of union leaders are. Hope teachers reject (and your union Tom) reject this pay cut

xyzzzz__, Friday, 14 July 2023 10:16 (one year ago) link

would it be so hard for Starmer to say “we’d negotiate to find a fair deal with the great workers of this country”? ffs just last week he accused rishi of having “given up”, the attack line is just sitting there waiting

Tracer Hand, Friday, 14 July 2023 12:39 (one year ago) link

You can load the bases with no outs and he’ll choose the NOBLETIGER every time

(who is an amazing ice cream maker by the way) (gyac), Friday, 14 July 2023 12:48 (one year ago) link

Rachel Reeves was saying last week that a Labour government might also ignore the recommendations of pay review boards - what's she saying now the Tories have accepted then?

Body Odour Ultra Low Emission Zone (Tom D.), Friday, 14 July 2023 12:58 (one year ago) link

god knows i nod off every time she opens her mouth

orcas who sign their posts like it's a freaking email (Noodle Vague), Friday, 14 July 2023 13:00 (one year ago) link

I can barely hear her over my screaming.

Body Odour Ultra Low Emission Zone (Tom D.), Friday, 14 July 2023 13:02 (one year ago) link

Frankly, the left has to start caring a lot more about growth, about creating wealth, attracting inward investment and kickstarting a spirit of enterprise,” he says.

“It is the only show in town for those who dream of a brighter future.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/jul/15/keir-starmer-we-cant-spend-our-way-back-to-power

orcas who sign their posts like it's a freaking email (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 15 July 2023 19:20 (one year ago) link

LOL TIL he entered politics via the scottish parliament

xpost

conrad, Saturday, 15 July 2023 19:20 (one year ago) link

is the RIP act of 2000 still in force? because that had a prison sentence for failing to disclose passwords and 'I've forgotten it' wasn't a valid response. People were prosecuted under it.

koogs, Sunday, 16 July 2023 00:02 (one year ago) link

Senior Labour insiders said they agreed that the policy was “horrible” and would not exist “in a perfect world” but said the party was not making any spending commitments it was unable to deliver on. “I can see why colleagues might feel uncomfortable with this but we’ve got to be realistic about the state of the economy,” they said.

One shadow cabinet minister said Starmer had to be able to “slay shibboleths” over public spending but admitted it was a tough position for MPs with constituents in poverty to defend.

“These things are not easy for the MPs because they do genuinely hurt families in their constituencies,” they said. “But we can’t end child poverty unless we have more money to do it – and that’s not going to happen, frankly, in the first term of a Labour government.”

https://i.imgur.com/XjBzkbW.png

he thinks it's chinese money (soref), Monday, 17 July 2023 09:03 (one year ago) link

this insistence on refusing to commit to actually improving anything in any way reminds me of this joke Jeremy Hardy made in the late 90s about New Labour coming to power and the public feeling like someone who had waited 18 years for an organ transplant only to find out that the donor had the same condition

he thinks it's chinese money (soref), Monday, 17 July 2023 09:07 (one year ago) link

Can't remember the last time I've had a thought reading this thread that wasn't "these fucking cunts" (nb not the thread contributors).

Daniel_Rf, Monday, 17 July 2023 09:08 (one year ago) link

The funniest thing about lack of commitment is how quickly old that will get when we have droughts/flood/fires and the like.

Sleepwalkers, the lot of them.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 17 July 2023 09:12 (one year ago) link

enlightening article (for some Americans) about the NHS in the NYT today

youn, Monday, 17 July 2023 11:04 (one year ago) link

A good person.

I’ve decided to resign from @UKLabour and serve as an Independent Mayor.

People are tired of being controlled by Westminster and Party HQs. They want someone to stand up for them. Let the people decide. £25k by end of Aug & I’ll stand as North East Mayor👉https://t.co/WuDEGd3xxJ pic.twitter.com/kscPeMmlX5

— Mayor Jamie Driscoll (@MayorJD) July 17, 2023

the pinefox, Monday, 17 July 2023 12:29 (one year ago) link

All power to Jamie.

Those quotes from the "Senior Labour insiders" (Mandeldroids like Akehurst and McSweeney) won't convince anyone. We've all learnt by now that these people take active pleasure in the suffering of natural Labour voters. It's punishment for the enthusiasm for Corbyn, for wanting fairer policies, for being impudent and not accepting what they're told. The level of hatred these people are going to start to see directed towards them in a Labour gov may well surprise even them.

glumdalclitch, Monday, 17 July 2023 13:19 (one year ago) link

Jamie has raised 20k in barely 24 hrs.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 17 July 2023 13:42 (one year ago) link

How many of those are giving bits of spare cash they shouldn't but are doing so anyway just bcz they want someone who cares?

xyzzzz__, Monday, 17 July 2023 13:44 (one year ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F1PkNG3XsAA9uhb?format=jpg&name=medium

the replies to Kim McGuiness announcing her candidacy is mostly ppl saying fk off they are voting for Driscoll, what a charming Labour person she is.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 17 July 2023 14:11 (one year ago) link

This has every chance of being this decade's Thatcher Milk Snatcher pic.twitter.com/GIuMf1umLW

— Samplo Corvodina QC (@TreborRhurbarb) July 17, 2023

orcas who sign their posts like it's a freaking email (Noodle Vague), Monday, 17 July 2023 17:13 (one year ago) link

I can't imagine seeing a classic like that on bluesky!

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 17 July 2023 17:20 (one year ago) link

But one shadow cabinet member said: “It’s possible to both be critical of the two-child policy but also say we can’t make spending commitments. We have to be fiscally disciplined.”

make no mistakes, Labour's "fiscal discipline" is going to make them more dangerous than a Tory party that is on the ropes. Despicable people.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 17 July 2023 17:54 (one year ago) link

Driscoll now on 53k in half a day. Astonishing

glumdalclitch, Monday, 17 July 2023 18:26 (one year ago) link

Good for him. He was pretty impressive on C4 news tonight.

steely flan (suzy), Monday, 17 July 2023 21:33 (one year ago) link

Unhinged to keep going on about that note after all the covid support people and businesses got.

Lucy Powell holds the line on the two-child limit on Times Radio: "There's no money left, to coin a phrase." Liam Byrne's note not so much a millstone for this Labour leadership as a philosophy for government.

— Patrick Maguire (@patrickkmaguire) July 18, 2023

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 18 July 2023 09:12 (one year ago) link

The Labour Party using a stick the Tories have gleefully used over the years to beat the Labour Party, to beat... the Labour Party? Self-clowning or what?

Body Odour Ultra Low Emission Zone (Tom D.), Tuesday, 18 July 2023 09:17 (one year ago) link

Have they used the Winter of Discontent and the Enemy Within yet?

Body Odour Ultra Low Emission Zone (Tom D.), Tuesday, 18 July 2023 09:18 (one year ago) link

Give's department literally* 'gave back' £2Bn last week.

nashwan, Tuesday, 18 July 2023 09:25 (one year ago) link

Gove lol. First he Goveth.

nashwan, Tuesday, 18 July 2023 09:25 (one year ago) link

not seen any signs of this imminent "Shadow Cabinet revolt" against Kieth that was reported yesterday, if any of them had a shred of integrity they'd have already been booted out.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 18 July 2023 09:39 (one year ago) link

‘I don’t think the idea of keeping people in poverty is fiscally responsible'

North of Tyne Mayor Jamie Driscoll says Labour is ‘storing up problems for the long term’ with its new policy to keep the two-child cap on benefits if it gets into government
https://t.co/P0zxS1DNGF pic.twitter.com/Zj5EfMhT9e

— BBC Newsnight (@BBCNewsnight) July 17, 2023

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 18 July 2023 10:49 (one year ago) link

The Westminster Think Tank scene

This is both dumb and disgraceful - Policy Exchange is an important part of the Westminster think tank scene and shouldn’t be intimidated in this way https://t.co/cBABHJ5ECa

— Sebastian Payne (@SebastianEPayne) July 20, 2023

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 20 July 2023 11:35 (one year ago) link

bloody Camden scenesters

the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 20 July 2023 11:41 (one year ago) link

JSO protesters getting assaulted in the street meanwhile.

nashwan, Thursday, 20 July 2023 11:46 (one year ago) link

https://t.co/DvPMVDLefs pic.twitter.com/BOfFqTVWP8

— Samplo Corvodina (@TreborRhurbarb) July 20, 2023

the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 20 July 2023 15:44 (one year ago) link

lmao

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 20 July 2023 16:33 (one year ago) link

The scene that celebrates its health (fiscal only)

I fell asleep at kabuki (Matt #2), Thursday, 20 July 2023 17:08 (one year ago) link

Nice

orcas who sign their posts like it's a freaking email (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 20 July 2023 17:25 (one year ago) link

Tories HOLD Uxbridge & South Ruislip!
No idea whether this is good or bad, probably bad because everything is bad. Bad in that they are already pinning it on ULEZ I suppose.
Bad that I'm still awake at this time.

the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 21 July 2023 01:46 (one year ago) link

Gonna need to offer to starve more kids

orcas who sign their posts like it's a freaking email (Noodle Vague), Friday, 21 July 2023 01:55 (one year ago) link

LET’S GOOOOOOO https://t.co/C562GtQOHJ pic.twitter.com/NyRHbJSwXs

— El Borto 🔥🔥🔥 (@leo_hutz) July 21, 2023

orcas who sign their posts like it's a freaking email (Noodle Vague), Friday, 21 July 2023 02:06 (one year ago) link

Sadiq Khan will be shitting himself.

John Donne In Concert (Tom D.), Friday, 21 July 2023 06:23 (one year ago) link

Spot the unconvincing puppet with Keir Starmer's hand up his arse.

https://e3.365dm.com/23/07/768x432/skynews-keir-mather-labour_6225140.jpg

John Donne In Concert (Tom D.), Friday, 21 July 2023 06:50 (one year ago) link

Lol @ this nerd

xyzzzz__, Friday, 21 July 2023 07:00 (one year ago) link

Starmer Boy

John Donne In Concert (Tom D.), Friday, 21 July 2023 07:03 (one year ago) link

My God, he's even called Keir!

John Donne In Concert (Tom D.), Friday, 21 July 2023 07:04 (one year ago) link

Some of this shit will be swept away so fast. A decrease in inflation and interest rates should do it

xyzzzz__, Friday, 21 July 2023 07:06 (one year ago) link

fucking Rovers fans

orcas who sign their posts like it's a freaking email (Noodle Vague), Friday, 21 July 2023 09:44 (one year ago) link

can he make up his mind whether being murdered by a 19 year old is embarrassing or a clear act of self defence https://t.co/ykySp50nrV

— tyron (@thetyronwilson) July 21, 2023

Andrew Farrell, Friday, 21 July 2023 09:53 (one year ago) link

I know it’ll have been a fair amount of tactical voting there but Labour losing their deposit whilst the greens double their vote share isn’t a great look for the impending Labour landslide https://t.co/UDaJAf3NSy

— Chris Duffy (@OtherChrises) July 21, 2023

xyzzzz__, Friday, 21 July 2023 10:02 (one year ago) link

Current headline on the guardian...

Starmer urges Khan to ‘reflect’ on Ulez rules after Uxbridge defeat

Labour leader hails Selby byelection victory but says London mayor must consider expansion of ultra-low emission zone

God I hate this prick. Yeah tory voters don't want environmentally progressive policies, big fucking surprise. How to address that? Be more tory! Fuckhead.

NickB, Friday, 21 July 2023 17:03 (one year ago) link

I tend to think this is right. There is no going back now and the ratchet effect will be applied until the the handle snaps off. Everyone talking about "wasted opportunities" to propose left policy with a relatively high poll lead simply does not understand the goals of the labour right. To them this is a golden chance to cement Blairism in even harsher, hegemonically dominant terms so there will be no backsliding into socialism for the British state. Blair's own recent comments are the clue to what they want to do.

The one thing you can say for certain about Starmer’s Labour is however right wing you think it is now, it’s going to become a lot more right wing in the months ahead https://t.co/wo9xfT7jPB

— Owen Jones (@OwenJones84) July 21, 2023

glumdalclitch, Friday, 21 July 2023 17:41 (one year ago) link

it was shaaps that expedited the roll out of ulez in London, and that's a lot of what people are pissed about, the speed of it

https://www.onlondon.co.uk/letter-from-grant-shapps-shows-that-government-proposed-enlarging-london-congestion-charge-zone/

koogs, Friday, 21 July 2023 17:42 (one year ago) link

People hate breathable air, good that labour addresses these concerns

Grandall Flange (wins), Friday, 21 July 2023 17:46 (one year ago) link

i'm sure every single person crying about ulez absolutely relies on their car and has no option to use public transport

orcas who sign their posts like it's a freaking email (Noodle Vague), Friday, 21 July 2023 18:44 (one year ago) link

tfw a prospective Labour govt is actually going to be worse than the Tories. In some ways a detestable glazed ham like Starmer with a dreadful voice is probably a good thing because whoever is in his place - it will be the same party machine policy makers and influences driving the direction and this cunt has hung parliament written all over him.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 21 July 2023 18:48 (one year ago) link

yeah since we're going to hell anyway i hope they stick with this absolute machine of unintentional comedy

orcas who sign their posts like it's a freaking email (Noodle Vague), Friday, 21 July 2023 18:49 (one year ago) link

i'm sure every single person crying about ulez absolutely relies on their car and has no option to use public transport

Unfortunately conspiracy theorists have got a hold of it too, I've had a "discussion" with one of them in my work.

John Donne In Concert (Tom D.), Friday, 21 July 2023 20:47 (one year ago) link

https://news.sky.com/story/vomiting-blood-and-shaking-uncontrollably-funding-cuts-leave-addicts-left-to-fight-disease-alone-12928915

Just watching Yvette Cooper looking extremely uncomfortable about having to blame Tory austerity measures for these figures - you could tell even saying the word "austerity" stuck in her craw. Of course, thereafter, not promising to spend any more money on the problem and instead vaguely talking up linking addiction treatment to improvements in crime prevention. Vile.

Also I saw Ed Miliband the other day talking about the climate crisis having obviously been briefed to make sure he namechecked Starmer and Rachel Reeves. Somebody just shoot that guy and put him out of this misery.

John Donne In Concert (Tom D.), Friday, 28 July 2023 07:20 (one year ago) link

lonely guy, thinking baout freedom

Talking about freedom, sat in Margaret Thatcher’s old Rover.

Earlier I spoke to @Telegraph about how important cars are for families to live their lives. It’s something anti-motorist Labour just don’t seem to get.

And it’s why I’m reviewing anti-car schemes across the country. pic.twitter.com/0OiKhFLjc3

— Rishi Sunak (@RishiSunak) July 30, 2023

he thinks it's chinese money (soref), Sunday, 30 July 2023 11:56 (one year ago) link

this photo is making me laugh so much, he looks like a little boy whose parents are letting him sit in the front seat of the family car while it remains stationary in their driveway, pretending to drive

he thinks it's chinese money (soref), Sunday, 30 July 2023 12:00 (one year ago) link

brrum brrum

Daniel_Rf, Sunday, 30 July 2023 12:01 (one year ago) link

miming turning the wheel round because he's been sternly told that he's on no account to actually touch any of the controls

he thinks it's chinese money (soref), Sunday, 30 July 2023 12:07 (one year ago) link

is this a metaphor for his Prime Ministership?

Let's talk about local tomatoes (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 30 July 2023 13:05 (one year ago) link

I could be wrong but does Sunak seem to only have one mode - grinning like an idiot, an uber-consumercapitalist smiley everything-is-great facial expression all the time? Cameron had his serious face, May had her stern face, Johnson had his vicious scowl. Sunak is the totemic sunny face of late authoritarian capitalism all the time. I find him more botlike than May even

glumdalclitch, Sunday, 30 July 2023 13:11 (one year ago) link

LOL this is so fucking pathetic and transparently desperate it makes the Labour Party seem competent.

Continuous Two-Tone Warble (Tom D.), Sunday, 30 July 2023 13:16 (one year ago) link

Families, families, families
families

families

No-one else needs a fucking car

moribund new dance craze (Matt #2), Sunday, 30 July 2023 13:38 (one year ago) link

Starmer next week all like I have always loved cars more than anything, here are some pictures of me in or near cars throughout my life, under labour all motorists will be allowed three no-questions-asked vehicular homicides a day

hiroyoshi tins in (Sgt. Biscuits), Sunday, 30 July 2023 13:57 (one year ago) link

Kieth drinking a pint of leaded petrol

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 30 July 2023 14:01 (one year ago) link

this "own the tree-huggers" race to the bottom is not really a good idea

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 30 July 2023 14:06 (one year ago) link

treehuggers, lightweights who can't deal with air pollution, fuck the lot of them

Let's talk about local tomatoes (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 30 July 2023 14:16 (one year ago) link

I'm sure they're getting all this garbage from focus groups but I just don't believe any of this is actually popular with the general public.

Continuous Two-Tone Warble (Tom D.), Sunday, 30 July 2023 14:19 (one year ago) link

a good chunk of people have an unhealthy emotional attachment to cars

Let's talk about local tomatoes (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 30 July 2023 14:21 (one year ago) link

Starmer next week all like I have always loved cars more than anything, here are some pictures of me in or near cars throughout my life, under labour all motorists will be allowed three no-questions-asked vehicular homicides a day

― hiroyoshi tins in (Sgt. Biscuits), Sunday, 30 July 2023 14:57 (seven hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

This is the time to really start playing on his strong record of knocking down deliveroo drivers in his SUV

glumdalclitch, Sunday, 30 July 2023 21:06 (one year ago) link

in some ways the grim as fuck 2017 Theresa May govt that pissed its majority away was more progressive than the Labour Party in 2023.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 30 July 2023 21:28 (one year ago) link

if he's so keen on cars, why the fuck does he fly everywhere instead?

NickB, Sunday, 30 July 2023 22:00 (one year ago) link

He luvs cars he has visited loads of them.

Mark G, Monday, 31 July 2023 07:41 (one year ago) link

Unfortunately his feet don't reach the pedals yet so he has to rely on other people to drive for him.

Continuous Two-Tone Warble (Tom D.), Monday, 31 July 2023 08:19 (one year ago) link

"I would like to buy some petrols please..."

Mark G, Monday, 31 July 2023 08:34 (one year ago) link

he had to borrow a car for that petrol station forecourt photo op recently.

in other news:

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/jul/29/mirrors-description-of-matt-hancock-as-failed-health-secretary-not-inaccurate-says-watchdog

hancock complained over the mirror describing him as 'failed health secretary and cheating husband who broke the lockdown rules he wrote' and other things, but ipso has just said that none of it was inaccurate.

koogs, Monday, 31 July 2023 08:55 (one year ago) link

Failure is just success that hasn't happened yet.

nashwan, Monday, 31 July 2023 09:26 (one year ago) link

Love how Lab's incoherent reading of Uxbridge has created the space for this to happen.

500 people in Uxbridge protested about a car charge and now our children and grandchildren all have to die, sorry I don’t make the rules https://t.co/jszqa2dHEn

— Jonathan Lis (@jonlis1) July 31, 2023

xyzzzz__, Monday, 31 July 2023 10:03 (one year ago) link

some people will see this as a story about one guy's hypocrisy, but really it's about how actually-existing drugs policy is a charade that nobody seriously believes in https://t.co/SJPHzMRZAk

— Jon Stone (@joncstone) July 31, 2023

xyzzzz__, Monday, 31 July 2023 22:46 (one year ago) link

Stats for melts going Green

🚨 NEW: Labour confirms that they will uphold all new oil and gas licences granted before the next election.

Labour's Thangam Debbonaire reaffirmed on Newsnight that Labour will keep any licence granted before the party comes to office. https://t.co/KQYtqyL4mD

— Stats for Lefties 🏳️‍⚧️ (@LeftieStats) August 1, 2023

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 1 August 2023 09:24 (one year ago) link

Not only shameless but stupid on all levels.

Continuous Two-Tone Warble (Tom D.), Tuesday, 1 August 2023 09:25 (one year ago) link

pitiful claim that they don't want to create uncertainty for businesses, when unequivocally saying "we will revoke all these new licences" would create certainty

Let's talk about local tomatoes (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 1 August 2023 09:41 (one year ago) link

we don't wait to create uncertainty that we might be anything other than craven bootlicking cunts who will allow international business interests to pillage the environment until every last human on earth is drowned, burned or starved

come on barbo let’s go parpo (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 1 August 2023 10:15 (one year ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F2YP1F5XwAs_9SQ?format=jpg&name=large

shocking news if true, lol

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 1 August 2023 18:04 (one year ago) link

Jimmy Saville on a Tory Poster next year 😎

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 1 August 2023 19:29 (one year ago) link

i mean it wouldn't be the first time

Let's talk about local tomatoes (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 1 August 2023 19:30 (one year ago) link

Once the food supply chain is fucked those oil contracts will be cancelled so fast.

South America is living one of the extreme events the world has ever seen
Unbelievable temperatures up to 38.9C in the Chilean Andine areas in mid winter ! Much more than what Southern Europe just had in mid summer at the same elevation: This event is rewriting all climatic books pic.twitter.com/QiiUKllWWP

— Extreme Temperatures Around The World (@extremetemps) August 1, 2023

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 2 August 2023 08:07 (one year ago) link

Ok

Exclusive: Rishi Sunak’s plans for a Great British chess revival

- Gov will financially back England’s chess teams for the first time
- 100 chess boards to be rolled out in parks
- drive for more chess in state schoolshttps://t.co/KgO8oGfOZt

— Ellen Milligan (@EllenAMilligan) August 2, 2023

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 2 August 2023 13:41 (one year ago) link

After seeing off Jack from Guilford too

.@RishiSunak talking in averages to a guy who has a specific problem.
He's telling Jack from Guildford, who is facing a mortgage rise from £1500 to £2800, that he should be aware that actually the average mortgage is going up from £800 to £1000.@LBC @NickFerrariLBC

— Paul Waugh (@paulwaugh) August 2, 2023

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 2 August 2023 13:43 (one year ago) link

his favourite word is "actually"

conrad, Wednesday, 2 August 2023 15:31 (one year ago) link

for a guy who's all about the importance of teaching maths in schools he seems to have a poor grasp of how averages work

come on barbo let’s go parpo (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 2 August 2023 15:34 (one year ago) link

https://theartofantiquing.com/products/margaret-british-chess-set

British Chess Set of Political figures including Big Ben and Margaret Thatcher
$270.00 USD

koogs, Wednesday, 2 August 2023 15:40 (one year ago) link

I was taught chess at state school. I was rubbish I suppose but enjoyed it a lot as a kid until we had our first match vs another school and saw a chess clock for the first time which is something our teacher had never used with us or told us about . we were v v confused. and lost.

oscar bravo, Wednesday, 2 August 2023 20:21 (one year ago) link

considering who their major donors are this is a good opp for Kieth to diverge from the tories for once and make the case for online poker.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 2 August 2023 20:31 (one year ago) link

NEW: NatWest closed bank accounts for Jamaican people living outside the UK earlier this year, I've been told. 100s have been affected it is claimed, including a 92 year old man who has not had his state pension since January 2023.

— Nadine White. (@Nadine_Writes) August 2, 2023

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 2 August 2023 21:17 (one year ago) link

lol at the idea that NF is going to be the saviour of a ton of immigrants who can't get an account / have been debanked

koogs, Thursday, 3 August 2023 02:35 (one year ago) link

(also, maybe time to move my money out of nat west)

koogs, Thursday, 3 August 2023 02:37 (one year ago) link

Some former Bank of England ghoul on Sky News lamenting high wage rises and low unemployment rates. It's how they all think but tend to avoid saying out loud.

Continuous Two-Tone Warble (Tom D.), Thursday, 3 August 2023 06:39 (one year ago) link

1 in 50 Londoners is now homeless. On average at least one child in every London classroom is homeless.

This is an absolute scandal & should be front page news. The number of homeless residents in temporary accommodation in London is now just under 170,000. 83,500 are children pic.twitter.com/1EEMSBrIUB

— Aydin Dikerdem (@AydinDikerdem) August 3, 2023

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 3 August 2023 11:33 (one year ago) link

"that can't be true or opposition politicians would be constantly berating the government about it"

Let's talk about local tomatoes (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 3 August 2023 12:01 (one year ago) link

This is the time to really start playing on his strong record of knocking down deliveroo drivers in his SUV

― glumdalclitch, Sunday, July 30, 2023 bookmarkflaglink

in some ways the grim as fuck 2017 Theresa May govt that pissed its majority away was more progressive than the Labour Party in 2023.

― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, July 30, 2023 bookmarkflaglink

if he's so keen on cars, why the fuck does he fly everywhere instead?

― NickB, Sunday, July 30, 2023 bookmarkflaglink

He luvs cars he has visited loads of them.

― Mark G, Monday, July 31, 2023 bookmarkflaglink

Unfortunately his feet don't reach the pedals yet so he has to rely on other people to drive for him.

― Continuous Two-Tone Warble (Tom D.), Monday, July 31, 2023 bookmarkflaglink

"I would like to buy some petrols please..."

― Mark G, Monday, July 31, 2023

Series of good posts, ILX doing what it does well!

the pinefox, Thursday, 3 August 2023 13:38 (one year ago) link

Labour explicitly saying that people need to vote with the Conservative Party or will be suspended.

“Only last week we suspended two Labour councillors in Edinburgh because they weren’t prepared to vote for the Tories over the SNP.”

Was she supposed to say that?

pic.twitter.com/A8IZu80eqZ

— Alex Nunns (@alexnunns) July 14, 2022

the pinefox, Thursday, 3 August 2023 13:48 (one year ago) link

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2023/aug/03/budget-retailer-wilko-makes-administration-move-risking-12000-jobs There’s a Wilko in pretty much every town in the UK so this is a shock.

Dan Worsley, Thursday, 3 August 2023 15:55 (one year ago) link

i was in one last saturday morning and there were plenty of empty shelves, i did wonder if they were having money troubles.

koogs, Thursday, 3 August 2023 16:10 (one year ago) link

Yeah someone told me a few months ago they thought it was circling the drain & since then I’ve really noticed how understocked & understaffed the ones I’ve gone into have been

Grandall Flange (wins), Thursday, 3 August 2023 16:42 (one year ago) link

I'd never buy any paint from them again, their bathroom paint is crap. The colour and finish is awful and it's already peeling off in one spot after weeks. And the worst paint stench ever. lol, gl to them though!

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 3 August 2023 17:33 (one year ago) link

I confess I don't even know what Wilko sells, they didn't exist in Scotland when I lived there.

Continuous Two-Tone Warble (Tom D.), Thursday, 3 August 2023 17:34 (one year ago) link

It's probably the non-supermarket shop I use the most, that or b&m. feel like they spread themselves a bit too thinly product-wise, always seems like they don't stock things I expect them to have, and do stock a load of seemingly random stuff that nobody would expect to find there

the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 3 August 2023 17:36 (one year ago) link

weirdly* enough i bought a new broom at wilko a month back (nothing looked untoward)

it probably sweeps clean, but i haven't used it yet

*not very weird really, except it's the first time i've ever been in a wilko that i can remember and apparently also the last

mark s, Thursday, 3 August 2023 17:39 (one year ago) link

good for cheap picture frames, i must have 10 of their postcard-size ones (although the recent one don't match the older ones, annoyingly). i might go and stock up on saturday.

and i bought a junior hacksaw there a couple of weeks ago to cut the old sofa in two so i can get it down the stairs for the bulk waste people.

koogs, Thursday, 3 August 2023 17:48 (one year ago) link

They've honestly been going downhill ever since they stopped being Wilkinson, not that it was exactly amazing then either

Scene report: Rochester MN (Matt #2), Thursday, 3 August 2023 17:58 (one year ago) link

I hate it when brands start officially adopting the colloquial names that the public confer on them, feels presumptuous in the same way as overly informal brand twitter accounts. It was all downhill for Woolworths when they started referring to themselves as 'woolies' in their adverts in the late 90s, maybe brands only start doing this when their medium-term financial viability is not looking too good

he thinks it's chinese money (soref), Thursday, 3 August 2023 20:09 (one year ago) link

haven't seen any "Primarni" adverts yet tbf

Let's talk about local tomatoes (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 3 August 2023 20:11 (one year ago) link

It was not good when the Daily Mirror became The Mirror.

Somehow such a change misunderstands usage.

the pinefox, Friday, 4 August 2023 10:26 (one year ago) link

I'm impressed by Koogs chopping a sofa in two.

Possibly also by Mark S *sweeping clean*.

the pinefox, Friday, 4 August 2023 10:26 (one year ago) link

Is the Manchester Guardian worse than it used to be?

Continuous Two-Tone Warble (Tom D.), Friday, 4 August 2023 10:29 (one year ago) link

I had the old sofa doesn't fit through the door prob. Was going to saw it but was thinking if I sawed it in half the council will probably try and charge me for two bulky waste items, not even joking. So I smashed the legs off and deformed it some more with a lump hammer so it was slightly small enough for me to get it through alone, it was quite easy as well because furniture is so poorly made these days and the wood on the back and armrests of the frame was poor quality. To keep it on topic I was imagining the sofa was Kier Starmer's head so it had no chance!

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 4 August 2023 10:50 (one year ago) link

I've got rid of two sofas, three beds and about half a dozen swivel chairs in the last year. A high turnover of broken furniture!

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 4 August 2023 10:53 (one year ago) link

I also paint houses

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 4 August 2023 11:00 (one year ago) link

Many xps, I also thought there were no branches of Wilkos in Scotland, but it appears there are now a few across the central belt.

hamicle, Friday, 4 August 2023 11:16 (one year ago) link

Ok.

Rishi Sunak apparently went to a Taylor Swift-themed SoulCycle class in Santa Monica ? pic.twitter.com/J1HsFFaFzG

— J.D. Capelouto (@jdcapelouto) August 4, 2023

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 5 August 2023 11:13 (one year ago) link

TS just donated what must've been hundreds of thousands to a Santa Clara food bank after her two gigs there.

koogs, Saturday, 5 August 2023 13:38 (one year ago) link

In other news, Stephen Flynn is a person.

Mark G, Wednesday, 9 August 2023 15:00 (one year ago) link

Diane tells it like it is, UK Twitter frantically clutches pearls and calls the police

These migrants have indeed fucked off. To the bottom of the sea https://t.co/bdF2oNdAAV

— Diane Abbott MP (@HackneyAbbott) August 9, 2023

the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 9 August 2023 15:27 (one year ago) link

😯

Posted today on the ‘Civil Service Jobs’ internal website. pic.twitter.com/D3eUlBTp9B

— Robin Moira White (she/her) (@moira_robin) August 10, 2023

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 10 August 2023 15:44 (one year ago) link

LOL at Diane Abbott getting attacked from all quarters for "politicizing" the deaths of migrants... expect it's not really a LOL.

Monthly Python (Tom D.), Thursday, 10 August 2023 15:47 (one year ago) link

why is SKSQC huffing horse manure the mad jenkem xunt

LaMDA barry-stanners (||||||||), Saturday, 12 August 2023 20:02 (one year ago) link

that's SKRSKCMP to you

conrad, Saturday, 12 August 2023 22:01 (one year ago) link

more like SKRSHRIMP

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 13 August 2023 00:54 (one year ago) link

As an @Arsenal season ticket holder, there is nothing like the buzz of the first day of a new campaign.

I can feel this is the season for us... #hope #PL https://t.co/vmWbv8t1Bk pic.twitter.com/xm1McTLxHq

— wariotifo (@wariotifo) August 12, 2023

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 13 August 2023 07:32 (one year ago) link

Was he indeed. https://t.co/F82r6xUqGO pic.twitter.com/8FEmyO4XC9

— Elvis Buñuelo (@Mr_Considerate) August 13, 2023

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 13 August 2023 22:31 (one year ago) link

doesn't feel like a *great* sign for the government that a Telegtaph cartoonist is portraying Sunak and Hunt as the heirs to Liam Byrne does it pic.twitter.com/ebkY8BBeEC

— Jonn Elledge (@JonnElledge) August 14, 2023

xyzzzz__, Monday, 14 August 2023 10:06 (one year ago) link

Actually it's what I expected from, austerity forever.

Which will rub against reality, which is increasing levels of money to keep things afloat.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 14 August 2023 10:08 (one year ago) link

Meanwhile in Italol

Italy’s prime minister, Giorgia Meloni, has doubled down on a shock decision to introduce a 40% windfall tax on banks, saying she would “do it again”

nashwan, Monday, 14 August 2023 12:26 (one year ago) link

They will never get a single vote from me under this leadership. Repulsive people.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F3er_g0XoAAL3Dy?format=png&name=900x900

ydkb (gyac), Monday, 14 August 2023 16:42 (one year ago) link

I sometimes forget how comfortably I'd given up on them pre Corbyn and it's very easy to give up on them again now. More so even, never again with these shit people, can't imagine a future Labour Party I could vote for

you're a sick man, Buddy Rich (Noodle Vague), Monday, 14 August 2023 16:58 (one year ago) link

I wonder why Babs would have a problem with a left leaning moderate like Dawn, who wasn't really a vociferous Corbynite. There is a question with an obvious answer.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 14 August 2023 16:59 (one year ago) link

Yeah the fact that I would never think of Dawn as lol fuck off "hard left" says a lot about this story

you're a sick man, Buddy Rich (Noodle Vague), Monday, 14 August 2023 17:24 (one year ago) link

Evening Standard's big story tonight is: Labour reshuffle imminent - how can KS get rid of the damaging socialist Corbynite ... Angela Rayner?

The main reflection I take from all this is something like "give an inch and they'll take a mile", or "first they came for x, then they came for me". People who were happy to excuse attacks on JC or RLB as justified have ended up with Neal Lawson and Angela Rayner being potentially excluded as dangerous leftists, because the "window" of what kind of insane attacks are acceptable has been allowed to shift steadily along. You can see Khan and Burnham (following Driscoll) entering the same frame.

the pinefox, Monday, 14 August 2023 17:41 (one year ago) link

some of them could have resigned over the two child benefit cap and pretended they had some integrity, but were cowed into silence by kieth and now they are going to get pumped anyway - ha ha

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 14 August 2023 17:51 (one year ago) link

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2023/aug/16/captain-tom-charity-faces-scrutiny-after-report-of-payments-to-daughter

Look can we all just admit now that this Captain Tom thing was a grift from start to finish, instigated by his psychotic daughter as a means of financing a luxury lifestyle? She was probably off-camera promising him food if he staggered a couple more lengths of the garden.

Logacta championship 1978 (North London heats) (Matt #2), Wednesday, 16 August 2023 13:13 (one year ago) link

Dawn Butler, right?

I hate it when articles stick to "Surname only", but hey

Mark G, Wednesday, 16 August 2023 14:07 (one year ago) link

Good luck to @UKAFRugby as the World Military Rugby Championship kicks off in Brittany today.

I know you will make our country proud.

— Keir Starmer (@Keir_Starmer) August 16, 2023

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 16 August 2023 18:38 (one year ago) link

Nigel Farage’s Coutts fiasco highlighted debanking. Yet Muslim communities have complained of bank account closures for years, and barriers to banking mean one in 10 Muslims in Britain don’t have a current account. Read my story here: https://t.co/RBY2jt0roA via @business

— Aisha S Gani (@aishagani) August 16, 2023

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 16 August 2023 19:02 (one year ago) link

can't see what they can threaten people who are facing 8 life sentences with that'll make it worth their while to attend their hearings. doesn't stop rishi from making policy from it though.

koogs, Monday, 21 August 2023 11:28 (one year ago) link

not to mention how impractical it would be. The prisoner could just scream over the sentencing or put their fingers in their ears or any number of things to make it a pointless exercise.

boxedjoy, Monday, 21 August 2023 11:38 (one year ago) link

in an unsurprising turn of events Kieth is sternly in favour of this pointless exercise

you're a sick man, Buddy Rich (Noodle Vague), Monday, 21 August 2023 11:45 (one year ago) link

as a former DPP, he should understand the importance of dispassionate justice. Like for example his night courts.. oh yeah soz I forgot he has always been a total dick

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 21 August 2023 12:05 (one year ago) link

she's got 13 whole life orders and will never be released. Yet some people feel that because of the no-show, she isn't being properly confronted with the severity of her crimes. Next stop bring back the gallows. Kieth will be fully on board .

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 21 August 2023 13:05 (one year ago) link

And that is something that a public representative with integrity has a responsibility to recognise and to explain, instead of appropriating bereaved families for their tubthumping tabloid pledges.

I bet they are annoyed that a former barrister is all in on this pathetic game without even a second thought.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 21 August 2023 15:28 (one year ago) link

Ok.

William Hague pretended to follow Rotherham United reveals Lord Danny Finklestein, who was tasked with feeding back updates to the Tory MP so he wasn’t “caught out”...

Listen on @GlobalPlayerhttps://t.co/SdyBDl7qyY@lewis_goodall | @Dannythefink pic.twitter.com/IgtgJRAT7g

— The News Agents (@TheNewsAgents) August 21, 2023

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 22 August 2023 07:31 (one year ago) link

and yet Hague still made a more convincing Rotherham fan than that Roger Nouveau cunt posting about grass and horse shit

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 22 August 2023 08:16 (one year ago) link

Absolutely where they want people to be, imprisoned by debt.

One in three tenants borrowed money to pay rent in last month https://t.co/PiZxwoUitD

— Jon Stone (@joncstone) August 22, 2023

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 22 August 2023 12:24 (one year ago) link

it me :/

you're a sick man, Buddy Rich (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 22 August 2023 12:56 (one year ago) link

Economic growth via exponential interest payments to kneecapper debt godfathers, Labour will be creaming themselves at the thought

there's no such thing as a winnable volume war (Matt #2), Tuesday, 22 August 2023 13:16 (one year ago) link

Today's my Grandma's birthday. She worked 19 hours a day running a pub until she was 70 & she left me £12K.
I invested it in a buy to let. Now #MichaelGove is forcing me to evict my young tenants from this Victorian terrace because of energy ratings dictated by #NetZeroBy2050

— Liz Kershaw (@LizKershawDJ) August 21, 2023

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 22 August 2023 18:34 (one year ago) link

Difficult to know where to start with that one.

Monthly Python (Tom D.), Tuesday, 22 August 2023 18:42 (one year ago) link

usually the best way to start with any matters regarding self-victimising landlord scum is building a gallows.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 22 August 2023 18:50 (one year ago) link

She should be happy she got the rental income she did from letting out a damp hovel bought with money she didn't earn! Should be a good blag for cowboy builders anyway over the next few years, figuring out how to insulate these un-insulatable properties.

there's no such thing as a winnable volume war (Matt #2), Tuesday, 22 August 2023 18:53 (one year ago) link

I've never seen a pub landlord who works a 19 hour day, her grandma must have had an opium den in the cellar. It doesn't take that long to clean the pumps.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 22 August 2023 18:59 (one year ago) link

my mum used to work for arseholes like her grandma and used to tell me stories about how they've got money stashed everywhere!

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 22 August 2023 19:03 (one year ago) link

Sitting around getting pissed with the regulars while the criminally underpaid bar staff do all the work - for 19 hours a day? Don't believe it.

Monthly Python (Tom D.), Tuesday, 22 August 2023 19:23 (one year ago) link

huge news as Dorries resigns

no wait, tiny news, who gives a fuck?

my full length poll (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 26 August 2023 17:16 (one year ago) link

having an 11 week meltdown over a denied peerage is pretty funny!

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 26 August 2023 17:27 (one year ago) link

OTM. Also sticking the boot right into that grinning jackass Sunak.

Monthly Python (Tom D.), Saturday, 26 August 2023 17:55 (one year ago) link

it's the children i feel sorry for...

koogs, Saturday, 26 August 2023 18:04 (one year ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F4wyj7PWEAAs6T1?format=png&name=360x360

do you want to be in his gang

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 30 August 2023 08:47 (one year ago) link

depressing that the "I should be able to drive my car wherever I want even if it means suffocating and running over toddlers" lobby has become the single most powerful voice in British politics

Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Wednesday, 30 August 2023 08:57 (one year ago) link

Another day, another unhinged Torygraph front page.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 30 August 2023 08:59 (one year ago) link

xp
at least the pro-pollution lobby now have their leader of the gang!

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 30 August 2023 09:00 (one year ago) link

xp
at least the pro-pollution lobby now have their leader of the gang!

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 30 August 2023 09:00 (one year ago) link

oops

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 30 August 2023 09:00 (one year ago) link

This guy was cheering on the Lib Dems at the last election, and now he’s been selected to stand as a Labour MP.

Meanwhile, left wing members are being banished from Labour for liking a Green Party tweet in 2012.

The hypocrisy of the Labour right knows no bounds! https://t.co/yjuk4lnXwt pic.twitter.com/opKO9EH7DC

— Phil Gould 🇵🇸🖕🥁 (@bongosaloon) August 30, 2023

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 31 August 2023 09:46 (one year ago) link

you reckon i could crowdfund £10k for the express purpose of bribing the Labour Party to do some funny shit? now we know how cheaply they can be bought....

— wariotifo (@wariotifo) August 31, 2023

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 31 August 2023 10:02 (one year ago) link

Ofc, these are Labour right MPs setting themselves up for jobs in privatised entities and consultancy work. They are setting policy now and taking care of their future.

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 31 August 2023 10:04 (one year ago) link

Didn't know we were at war.

A couple of Tory backbenchers not happy with Grant Shapps being appointed Defense Secretary.

Sam Coates: "This man doesn't get across detail & only cares about photos & gimmicky press releases... what a wasted opportunity"

"He sold encyclopedias. It's a joke given we're at war" pic.twitter.com/tiG89dWQoJ

— Haggis_UK 🇬🇧 🇪🇺 (@Haggis_UK) August 31, 2023

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 31 August 2023 14:46 (one year ago) link

we'm always at war

da elephant in daruma (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 31 August 2023 15:01 (one year ago) link

…on woke

AlanSmithee, Thursday, 31 August 2023 16:53 (one year ago) link

We've always been at war with Eastasia.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 31 August 2023 17:21 (one year ago) link

🚨BREAKING: For the first time in NHS history, junior doctors and consultants will coordinate strike action in a major escalation.

4 joint days of strike action across September and October alongside additional days of strike action.

— Taj Ali (@Taj_Ali1) August 31, 2023

xyzzzz__, Friday, 1 September 2023 06:20 (one year ago) link

i recognise there's a bit of symbolic fun to be had but i can't remember the last time i gave less of a shit about a news story than RAAC concrete

da elephant in daruma (Noodle Vague), Friday, 1 September 2023 15:05 (one year ago) link

Quite a meaty story for silly season maybe?

Definitely better than 10 minutes about some “AI popstar”

Chewshabadoo, Friday, 1 September 2023 15:34 (one year ago) link

it's probably that there's some underlying conclusions to be drawn from the story that the news media have got no interest in covering

da elephant in daruma (Noodle Vague), Friday, 1 September 2023 15:52 (one year ago) link

Senate Dems wake-up and take a cue fr British Labor Party. Read Shadow Chancellor of Exchequer Reeves interview in Telegraph No tax increases and no wealth tax. She is for wealth creation She feels u don’t tax ur way out economic prob. U grow ur way out. VERY REAGANESQUE

— Chuck Grassley (@ChuckGrassley) September 1, 2023

come on barbo let’s go parpo (bizarro gazzara), Saturday, 2 September 2023 12:14 (one year ago) link

lol i just saw that, i'm sure the shadow cabinet are pleased with the endorsement tbh

da elephant in daruma (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 2 September 2023 12:15 (one year ago) link

I can't believe the republicans would admire such a vicious right-wing ghoul

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 2 September 2023 12:16 (one year ago) link

oh yeah .. I mean I can believe it

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 2 September 2023 12:17 (one year ago) link

a fucking Labour shadow chancellor espousing Reaganomics in the Torygraph. Do the GTTO crew think this anything other than terrible?

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 2 September 2023 12:30 (one year ago) link

:-(

Young woman left fighting for her life after swimming in sewage-filled Pembrokeshire seahttps://t.co/0sFAchX5CU

— ITV News (@itvnews) September 2, 2023

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 2 September 2023 18:08 (one year ago) link

Slater said the DfE told Treasury that to avoid this critical risk to life – including *kids'* lives - they needed to replace 300-400 schools/yr. Sunak would only pay for 100/yr, and then halved that to 50. This has the potential to be very, very damaging for the PM.

— Peter Walker (@peterwalker99) September 4, 2023

xyzzzz__, Monday, 4 September 2023 10:19 (one year ago) link

There was also something about them preferring to spend the money on building more "free" schools. Figures.

Monthly Python (Tom D.), Monday, 4 September 2023 10:25 (one year ago) link

we could feed the dead children to the remaining children #outsidethebox

Tracer Hand, Monday, 4 September 2023 10:35 (one year ago) link

the tories treating us to more pancake days! UK schools are already dangerous enough with all the asbestos in the walls, ceilings, support posts and pipe lagging. Some of these schools should have been demolished decades ago - loads of the prefab ones are half a century beyond the 15 yr lifespan they were supposed to have when they were hastily knocked up in the 50's. Shithole country.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 4 September 2023 11:13 (one year ago) link

the school around the corner, the listed, goldfinger-designed school, has just had months of asbestos work done on it

koogs, Monday, 4 September 2023 11:31 (one year ago) link

the attack lines from a theoretically confident labour party finding its stride (lol) write themselves. there's a direct line from austerity to bonfire of the regs to theresa may skirting around the outside of the grenfell estate to this schools disaster. public services literally hollowed out from the inside. the tories literally didn't bother even pretending to deal with this until they were back from holiday.

Tracer Hand, Monday, 4 September 2023 14:18 (one year ago) link

possibly Labour are trying to work out how many of these buildings were built or ignored on their watch. but also any attack lines will have to be carefully worded to avoid promising to do anything about this in government

da elephant in daruma (Noodle Vague), Monday, 4 September 2023 14:20 (one year ago) link

yes :/

Tracer Hand, Monday, 4 September 2023 14:22 (one year ago) link

the school buildings containing RAAC were built between the 50's and the 90's and it apparently was known to have a 30 year life span before becoming structurally unsafe. So Labour while in govt have been equally negligent here.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 4 September 2023 14:39 (one year ago) link

This is a load of bollocks isn't it? She's trying to be jonathan fucking pie.

Education secretary Gillian Keegan is recorded on camera saying others ‘have been sat on their a***s’ on schools Raac crisis and shares frustration about not being thanked for doing ‘a f***ing good job’https://t.co/c02gI4dXiM pic.twitter.com/jWbYTVZl5D

— ITV News Politics (@ITVNewsPolitics) September 4, 2023

the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 4 September 2023 14:42 (one year ago) link

to be fair the tories axed school renovations already in train - part of a broad investment in public schools from the labour govt - the instant they clubbed with clegg in 2010. here’s an article from that time.

https://www.theguardian.com/education/2010/jul/08/schools-building-michael-gove-public-anger

Tracer Hand, Monday, 4 September 2023 14:42 (one year ago) link

I saw a teachers' representative being interviewed this morning saying what we need is for the next Labour government to promise to reintroduce their school building programme which the Tories scrapped. I thought. "Don't hold your breath, mate".

Monthly Python (Tom D.), Monday, 4 September 2023 14:46 (one year ago) link

xp

I believe that any of the potential Labour govts post 2010 (apart from when Corbyn was leader) would have done the same!

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 4 September 2023 14:51 (one year ago) link

the excuse being made for Labour not making any pledges or manifesto commitments is that this huge lead Kieth is holding is a fragile ming vase that will shatter in his hands the minute he pledges that there won't be starving children under a Labour govt.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 4 September 2023 15:35 (one year ago) link

men who are afraid of commitment eh? typical

da elephant in daruma (Noodle Vague), Monday, 4 September 2023 15:37 (one year ago) link

footy mad Kieth is very much committed to Arsenal. "Hurrah! Play up you magnificent gunners!" he shouts from the corporate box, ironically paid for by the arms industry.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 4 September 2023 15:45 (one year ago) link

lol, I'm old enough to remember when Starmer wouldn't even endorse Biden in 2020!

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 4 September 2023 16:03 (one year ago) link

Birmingham city council has gone bust

It was going to happen to a big city soon enough. And Birmingham was always one of the likely candidates. Even the cities that have been very well run (Manchester, Leeds, very probably many others) are struggling now. Birmingham has at times made mistakes. They catch up. https://t.co/rQyVH0WjPu

— Tom Forth (@thomasforth) September 5, 2023

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 5 September 2023 10:05 (one year ago) link

obv fuck the rapist enabling SWP forever but I do get a kick out of following the evolution of their posters, they are such brazen opportunists. For a while they were trying to associate themselves with Corbyn then after the elections there was a period of doing a lot of BLM type stuff. Now their latest is "From Oppenheimer To Today - A Socialist View on Nuclear Weapons". It's like one of those 60's producers who chased after every new trend with each single, except it's (barely) a political party.

Daniel_Rf, Tuesday, 5 September 2023 10:33 (one year ago) link

lol, even with a pic of Cillian Murphy

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 5 September 2023 15:38 (one year ago) link

seems a bit much

Robert Jenrick pushing this #ToryFascistDictatorship to the next level😏

Threatening LIFE IN PRISON to lawyers who help refugees which the government deem to be illegals

Somethings gone badly wrong in this country.

#GeneralElectionN0W pic.twitter.com/qLVWRJyB4m

— kerry ✊💙Save Our NHS (@hewitson10) September 5, 2023

koogs, Tuesday, 5 September 2023 15:43 (one year ago) link

I’m really happy I was just imagining contemporary anti-Irish sentiment 🥰🥰🥰

BREAK: Commons passes Bill to end historical prosecutions in Northern Ireland.

— David Blevins (@skydavidblevins) September 6, 2023

ydkb (gyac), Wednesday, 6 September 2023 16:45 (one year ago) link

i wish i hadn't read the comments

School of RAAC (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 6 September 2023 16:48 (one year ago) link

That story about lawyers facing possible life imprisonment for helping "illegal migrants" doesn't seem to have been reported anywhere.

Monthly Python (Tom D.), Wednesday, 6 September 2023 17:02 (one year ago) link

https://www.gov.uk/government/speeches/minister-jenricks-statement-on-illegal-migration

barest of coverage on the bbc, just the relevant bit of bbc parliament footage.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001qnkp

in fact the most recent match for jenrick is a piece about how asylum seekers are *enjoying* bibby stockholm (said article doesn't really back up the headline)

koogs, Wednesday, 6 September 2023 17:40 (one year ago) link

Not mentioned by anyone in the Labour Party either - though that doesn't surprise me. And to think we look down our noses at Orban and Trump.

Monthly Python (Tom D.), Wednesday, 6 September 2023 18:15 (one year ago) link

Maybe it's because many interpret it as him saying if you help someone commit fraud you are also doing a crime which...everyone already knows to be a law. I guess Jenrick may be dense enough to genuinely want to try jailing lawyers who fail to successfully defend their clients though, if they fit the profile.

nashwan, Wednesday, 6 September 2023 19:07 (one year ago) link

i'm not sure whether the "life" bit was a misspeak or if it's being ignored because even in this fascist shithole nobody seriously thinks this will happen so fuck that showboating cunt

School of RAAC (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 6 September 2023 19:10 (one year ago) link

There is a bleak deja vu seeing these front pages again. It is no better than a mob with a pitchfork. Love to every disabled person having to read this bile again. You are worth more than any journalist or minister finding scapegoats for their own gain. pic.twitter.com/MW4gmr4uWY

— Frances Ryan (@DrFrancesRyan) September 6, 2023

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 7 September 2023 09:34 (one year ago) link

sadly it's just the same ideas Labour were talking up back in January, so more disabled people will end up dead no matter who wins the next GE

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 7 September 2023 10:19 (one year ago) link

Liz Kendall has been promoted as DWP head so...

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 7 September 2023 10:20 (one year ago) link

Think there's about 1.6 million people total of working age who aren't employed

nashwan, Thursday, 7 September 2023 10:36 (one year ago) link

Absolutely hilarious. "Tweets" and Harry Potter running through this like a cancer. Shame she can't be kicked out bcz Transphobia.

https://unherd.com/2023/09/the-dark-art-of-toadying-to-starmer/

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 7 September 2023 10:49 (one year ago) link

a real line by line insight into the darkness but weirdly i don't mean Kieth's

School of RAAC (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 7 September 2023 11:31 (one year ago) link

Duffield's article manages to be worse, much worse, than I would have imagined.

My recollection is that she owes her position, of which she is so openly proud, to JC and Momentum activists campaigning for her in the past. She now routinely attacks them.

the pinefox, Thursday, 7 September 2023 11:38 (one year ago) link

she does not strike me as somebody capable of self-reflection

School of RAAC (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 7 September 2023 11:40 (one year ago) link

She is attacking the current lot. Not sure how that works out, she clearly doesn't want to be an MP.

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 7 September 2023 11:57 (one year ago) link

Yeah the summary appears to be "I am committed above all else to wrecking"

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 7 September 2023 13:24 (one year ago) link

couching her bitterness in all that Harry Potter shite is quite embarrassing. Isn't she effectively saying she didn't play the game so got no cabinet promotion - then why be surprised? Like she's a cut above these dickheads and shouldn't have to grovel - lol she's a fucking appalling human being even by Labour Party standards

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 7 September 2023 13:46 (one year ago) link

As Calzino says, the Potter element lowers it even further than it would otherwise be, in its strange, infantile, dated way.

the pinefox, Thursday, 7 September 2023 14:16 (one year ago) link

Isn't Duffield actually too old to be into Potter? I mean, even to have been into it as a child, or something?

the pinefox, Thursday, 7 September 2023 14:17 (one year ago) link

Lot of adults got into it reading it with their kids. I mean, they're still lamers, but I understand the process.

van der gragt generator (Bananaman Begins), Thursday, 7 September 2023 14:29 (one year ago) link

I hate to break it to you, pinefox, but some adults actually read Harry Potter books too.

Monthly Python (Tom D.), Thursday, 7 September 2023 14:31 (one year ago) link

(xp)

Monthly Python (Tom D.), Thursday, 7 September 2023 14:31 (one year ago) link

I've read all the Potter books but it's ok I've got nothing positive to say about them

School of RAAC (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 7 September 2023 14:33 (one year ago) link

Isn't she effectively saying she didn't play the game so got no cabinet promotion - then why be surprised? Like she's a cut above these dickheads and shouldn't have to grovel - lol she's a fucking appalling human being even by Labour Party standards

― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 7 September 2023 bookmarkflaglink

The party have become more Transphobic in part to appease the likes of Duffield, but the entitlement and ego are gigantic with her. Serving constituents isn't enough.

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 7 September 2023 15:19 (one year ago) link

You can never appease people like that until a law's been pushed through so being transgender is punishable by lengthy jail sentences, just more evidence of weak leadership.

I spent too long trying to write sensible SF (Matt #2), Thursday, 7 September 2023 15:24 (one year ago) link

the British left when the Legacy Bill passes ensuring their soldiers are immune from prosecution for crimes in Ireland: Shaquille O'Neal fast asleep meme

British left when it's time to defend dogs attacking children: Shaq wide awake, eyes glowing, REAL SHIT

— Brian Davey (@b_davey) September 10, 2023

ydkb (gyac), Sunday, 10 September 2023 17:42 (one year ago) link

Don't think it's to appease Duffield, a bitter sidelined no mark, so much as Mid England en masse.

nashwan, Sunday, 10 September 2023 18:26 (one year ago) link

“I don’t think it will make up for the pain I suffered at the time.”

Alfie Meadows - who was struck in the head with a police baton thirteen years ago during a protest - explains how he feels after receiving a six-figure compensation package from the Metropolitan Police. pic.twitter.com/xo0dQaZhoh

— Channel 4 News (@Channel4News) September 15, 2023

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 16 September 2023 10:11 (one year ago) link

Does feel like the pigs are paying a lot of people off in an attempt to clean up.

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 16 September 2023 10:12 (one year ago) link

Truss seems to be launching a campaign to push Tory economic policy to the ultra-right, and i strongly suspect this is happening at the behest of at least some section of the government

whatever happened to gravy brain? (Noodle Vague), Monday, 18 September 2023 09:30 (one year ago) link

i.e. she's acting as a herald for what Sunak wants, or she's fronting for another internal coup

whatever happened to gravy brain? (Noodle Vague), Monday, 18 September 2023 09:32 (one year ago) link

Latter I would say.

Monthly Python (Tom D.), Monday, 18 September 2023 09:40 (one year ago) link

Insane how a 40 day failure isn't shutting her up.

Families and businesses are being squeezed under the highest tax burden since the Second World War. Cutting taxes would put more money in people's pockets. #IfGTruss pic.twitter.com/CiFryAFQCq

— Liz Truss (@trussliz) September 18, 2023

xyzzzz__, Monday, 18 September 2023 11:29 (one year ago) link

thinking about thos high-net-worth individuals

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 18 September 2023 11:57 (one year ago) link

this is why it feels like it's not *just* a personal hobbyhorse. i get strong vibes that she represents interests

whatever happened to gravy brain? (Noodle Vague), Monday, 18 September 2023 11:57 (one year ago) link

Great strategy so far - just say the exact same shit as you did before becoming PM after all it worked that time.

nashwan, Monday, 18 September 2023 12:00 (one year ago) link

"As Conservatives we must make the case for less government intervention"

"There should be no official recognition of social transitioning for under-18s and single sex spaces should be protected in schools. The Government should issue guidance to schools urgently to make this clear."

nashwan, Monday, 18 September 2023 12:02 (one year ago) link

ah yes companies are relocating because of high tax and not because of brexit or nuffink

come on barbo let’s go parpo (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 18 September 2023 12:03 (one year ago) link

well i'm relocating because of the lack of protected single sex spaces in my workplace. i've HAD IT!

Tracer Hand, Monday, 18 September 2023 12:10 (one year ago) link

speaking of brexit, starmer is going to rescue us from the soylent green factories of sunak's broken britain:

Sir Keir Starmer has promised to seek a major rewrite of Britain’s Brexit deal in 2025 if the Labour party wins the next general election, saying he owes it to his children to rebuild relations with the EU.

Starmer told the Financial Times that he would put a closer trading relationship with Brussels and a new partnership with business at the heart of his efforts to bolster Britain’s economic growth.

Britain’s Trade and Cooperation Agreement with the EU, negotiated by former prime minister Boris Johnson, is due for review in 2025 and Starmer said he saw this as an “important” moment to reset relations.

“Almost everyone recognises the deal Johnson struck is not a good deal — it’s far too thin,” he said in an interview. “As we go into 2025 we will attempt to get a much better deal for the UK.”

he also goes on to say:

But Starmer said: “We have to make it work. That’s not a question of going back in. But I refuse to accept that we can’t make it work. I think about those future generations when I say that.

“I say that as a dad. I’ve got a 15-year-old boy and a 12-year-old girl. I’m not going to let them grow up in a world where all I’ve got to say to them about their future is, it’s going to be worse than it might otherwise have been. I’ve got an utter determination to make this work.”

speaking as a dad, your environment polices are going to ensure my daughter's future is short and miserable you fucking cunt

come on barbo let’s go parpo (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 18 September 2023 12:23 (one year ago) link

this is why it feels like it's not *just* a personal hobbyhorse. i get strong vibes that she represents interests

― whatever happened to gravy brain? (Noodle Vague), Monday, 18 September 2023 bookmarkflaglink

Not sure really. She does represent interests and they backed a winner that turned into a loss in 40 days.

No idea why anyone would back her now.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 18 September 2023 12:56 (one year ago) link

her failure only proves the value of her radical ideas, which were so frightening to woke banks and financiers that they conspired to dethrone her before she could usher in a low-tax, low-regulation paradise

come on barbo let’s go parpo (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 18 September 2023 13:03 (one year ago) link

add your own (((meaningful parathenses))) around 'woke banks and financiers' there as you see fit

come on barbo let’s go parpo (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 18 September 2023 13:03 (one year ago) link

Yes, she can pull the old Russell Brand switcheroo.

Monthly Python (Tom D.), Monday, 18 September 2023 13:08 (one year ago) link

The Blob got her.

Monthly Python (Tom D.), Monday, 18 September 2023 13:10 (one year ago) link

tag yourself

https://i.imgur.com/nMVoyE4.png

mark s, Monday, 18 September 2023 13:34 (one year ago) link

Her book's called 'Ten Years To Save The Whit-I mean, West'. Don't threaten us with a good time etc.

nashwan, Monday, 18 September 2023 13:37 (one year ago) link

Members of the government were in fairly short supply at Truss's speech earlier - David Frost was about it, and he's not been in cabinet since they wound up DExEU. A few years ago you'd see cabinet members popup to any old coup, but either Sunak has a tighter grip on them or no-one really fancies the idea of accidentally getting into office just in time for a wipeout. I think occam's razor says that the traits that got her into this are the same ones that means she can't read the room. She's got a book out and Tory party conference is coming up - see if anyone gives her the time of day after that.

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 18 September 2023 19:36 (one year ago) link

Really sad.

Private affluence, public squalor. Britain is becoming an ever more privatised, unequal, and impoverished country with crumbling and disappearing infrastructure and a shrunken culture and public realm—all so that the super rich can engage in dull lives of acquisitive banality. https://t.co/yCiL88fSzS

— Joe Guinan (@joecguinan) September 18, 2023

xyzzzz__, Monday, 18 September 2023 21:45 (one year ago) link

Compensations paid, now this.

It's hard to overstate the significance of a police officer being charged with murder for a killing they committed on duty. Look at the notes at the end of this press release for details of how rare it is.https://t.co/LArVKFtiOj

— Dave (@MediocreDave) September 20, 2023

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 20 September 2023 10:20 (one year ago) link

Good stuff

The president of Guyana swats away Richard Madeleys stupid question #GMB pic.twitter.com/dPCOukB702

— Saul Staniforth (@SaulStaniforth) September 20, 2023

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 20 September 2023 11:51 (one year ago) link

LOL @ Madeley trying desperately to keep up with the right wing arsehole zeitgeist.

Monthly Python (Tom D.), Wednesday, 20 September 2023 11:58 (one year ago) link

Really funny attempts at a Paxman impression.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 20 September 2023 12:04 (one year ago) link

My God, this Sunak statement on Net Zero is utter garbage. And all because they didn't lose the Uxbridge by-election! UK = comedy country.

Monthly Python (Tom D.), Wednesday, 20 September 2023 15:40 (one year ago) link

kicking the can up the street again, proper leadership that

NickB, Wednesday, 20 September 2023 16:27 (one year ago) link

What he actually said was that he was putting the long term interests of the country before short term politics - which is the exact opposite of what he's doing! It's completely absurd.

Monthly Python (Tom D.), Wednesday, 20 September 2023 16:32 (one year ago) link

looking forward to the next general election being a bidding war for the votes of the nastiest, most short-sighted and ill-informed voters in the country

whatever happened to gravy brain? (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 20 September 2023 16:43 (one year ago) link

nah, those are all on the commons benches already afaict

NickB, Wednesday, 20 September 2023 16:57 (one year ago) link

I think only the last of these is actual national government policy right now? https://t.co/TQkEFlSKmJ

— Pippa Crerar (@PippaCrerar) September 20, 2023

...and you probably don't need reminding that the last one will create thousands of jobs, grants can be given to those less able to afford it, and it'll actually save people money in the longterm and keep poorer families warmer

NickB, Wednesday, 20 September 2023 17:35 (one year ago) link

honestly can't wait for this prick to die in a plane crash

NickB, Wednesday, 20 September 2023 17:36 (one year ago) link

Just missing 'or whatever it is now and the bins must only be male or female we will check' after 'seven different bins'

nashwan, Wednesday, 20 September 2023 17:45 (one year ago) link

lol i hadn't even read that Sunak tweet until you said that

amazing stuff

whatever happened to gravy brain? (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 20 September 2023 17:47 (one year ago) link

I wish I had seven different bins to sort my rubbish into tbh.

Monthly Python (Tom D.), Wednesday, 20 September 2023 18:03 (one year ago) link

First I've heard of the compulsory car sharing, good policy though! Expect Labour to denounce it forthwith, even though it doesn't exist.

the arkansas ruggerclub (Matt #2), Wednesday, 20 September 2023 18:18 (one year ago) link

I used to have a glass bin collection (well to be more accurate it was a box), it was great until the LA cut it because otherwise they'd have to close 4 disability centres ... tough decisions etc.. fuck all these people.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 20 September 2023 18:24 (one year ago) link

Lads I need the car tomorrow OK? Good.

nashwan, Wednesday, 20 September 2023 18:31 (one year ago) link

This will be go down really well if there is the south east/west floods in the next year.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 20 September 2023 21:17 (one year ago) link

The way the rain is coming down at the moment those floods might arrive sooner than you think.

Monthly Python (Tom D.), Wednesday, 20 September 2023 21:23 (one year ago) link

the thought did cross my mind that the miserable pissy rain might've had something to do with the timimg of this statement

NickB, Wednesday, 20 September 2023 21:25 (one year ago) link

All of this is so fucking evil

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 21 September 2023 08:12 (one year ago) link

I lie awake literally every night worrying about the planet my kids are going to grow up on and then shit like this happens.

lurch of england (ledge), Thursday, 21 September 2023 08:14 (one year ago) link

The way the rain is coming down at the moment those floods might arrive sooner than you think.

― Monthly Python (Tom D.), Wednesday, 20 September 2023 bookmarkflaglink

Imagine the lack of investment in infrastructure and a climate event combining to decimate SE England and crashing house prices?

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 21 September 2023 09:16 (one year ago) link

It's all such extremely short-termist, penny-wise pound-foolish stuff, utterly transparent to anyone

Some of this could ostensibly be rowed back by a different government but pushing 100% EV sales back to 2035 probably could not be; you can't tell global car makers one date, then give them 5 years' breathing room, and then pull it back up to the original date

xpost I live in Stratford near the marshes so I'll be one of the first images on the 10 'clock news, waving down a helicopter from my roof

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 21 September 2023 09:39 (one year ago) link

They're so convinced that this is what the general hard working family public want too. Not exactly sure why. It's probably going to please the hardcore Tory headbangers in 5ge electorate but they're not going to win them an election

Monthly Python (Tom D.), Thursday, 21 September 2023 09:43 (one year ago) link

Well the Daily Mail hailed it as FINALLY COMMON SENSE so that's someone pleased.

Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 21 September 2023 09:45 (one year ago) link

A summer full of catastrophic fires and floods all over the world seems to have resonated with people, just from the conversations I have with people at work. Plus anyone under 30? Forget it!

Monthly Python (Tom D.), Thursday, 21 September 2023 09:45 (one year ago) link

(xp) Yes, the Telegraph love it... Sunak has gone from (net) zero to hero overnight.

Monthly Python (Tom D.), Thursday, 21 September 2023 09:50 (one year ago) link

What the UK does or doesn't do isn't a huge issue, to me. It's too small. China is adding huge amounts of renewables this year and some targets are being met. You can see other cities around Europe doing things too.

It's not enough but I suspect things will accelerate globally.

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 21 September 2023 09:57 (one year ago) link

There is a kernel of underlying reality to all debates about climate policy - who shoulders the costs? And UK politics is built on two parties both happy to disproportionately lumber the poorest with this. Of course that doesn't mean that any chat from the parties about hard working families is done in good faith, quite the opposite. But any form of flat tax is regressive and it's ok to call it as such

whatever happened to gravy brain? (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 21 September 2023 10:16 (one year ago) link

xp Yeah the manufacturers are furious about this, not least because Labour immediately said "no, that won't happen, we'll reverse that" (though we'll wait to see whether they'll stand on it)

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 21 September 2023 10:34 (one year ago) link

sunak was on radio 4 this morning talking about it, but as soon as i realised who it was i turned it off so i've no real idea if he said anything even vaguely convincing.

did find this though:
https://transact.westminster.gov.uk/env/streetreport.aspx?Street=Downing%20Street&USRN=8400071

it's quite obvious to me that he has people who put his bins out for him

koogs, Thursday, 21 September 2023 11:11 (one year ago) link

the four words i did hear him say was that the uk is doing more than anyone else already. british exceptionalism again...

koogs, Thursday, 21 September 2023 11:12 (one year ago) link

UK is the second biggest carbon emitter in Europe iirc

nashwan, Thursday, 21 September 2023 11:20 (one year ago) link

the pure daftness of allocating quanta of responsibility for global catastrophe to individual nation states should discount those arguments at source but people like to wrinkle their brows I guess

whatever happened to gravy brain? (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 21 September 2023 11:34 (one year ago) link

really surprising to see all those good apples in the Met trying to subvert a murder trial

Noodle Vague, Sunday, 24 September 2023 17:33 (one year ago) link

Not being able to legally execute young black men in broad daylight is the thin end of the wedge for them, where would it end?!

a man banging his head against several walls at once (Matt #2), Sunday, 24 September 2023 17:38 (one year ago) link

the MoD have offered military support tho so the streets will stay safe

Noodle Vague, Sunday, 24 September 2023 17:45 (one year ago) link

this all feels very liberal democracy

Noodle Vague, Sunday, 24 September 2023 17:46 (one year ago) link

Imagine the lack of investment in infrastructure and a climate event combining to decimate SE England and crashing house prices?,

Storm Agnes about to hit but it's missing the South East so who cares, trebles all round etc.

The First Time Ever I Saw Gervais (Tom D.), Wednesday, 27 September 2023 09:23 (one year ago) link

Jack Straw, home sec, in 2000 and Phil Woolas, immig min, in 2009 also called for changes to Geneva convention https://t.co/87PtCJk6pe

— John Rentoul (@JohnRentoul) September 26, 2023

See also Tony Blair, A Journey pic.twitter.com/xHmmUrxAHJ

— John Rentoul (@JohnRentoul) September 26, 2023

Rentoul pointing out that the Braverman comments that provoked such outrage are not that different from things prominent New Labour figures used to say. I don't know if this is encouraging (the discourse has changed and there is now more pushback against these ideas?) or if it just indicates that a lot of the people currently denouncing Braverman will shrug it off when Starmer and Cooper make the same arguments in 18 months time, probably the latter

soref, Wednesday, 27 September 2023 09:38 (one year ago) link

it was bad then and it's bad now john you undead cunt

come on barbo let’s go parpo (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 27 September 2023 10:13 (one year ago) link

you'd think he'd be all in favour of fresh blood

Steve Bully IX (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 27 September 2023 11:09 (one year ago) link

OK, so now it seems people are pretending to be gay to get into the UK, says Bravermann

Mark G, Wednesday, 27 September 2023 14:52 (one year ago) link

... and we've got quite enough of them already, thank you. Is the unsaid part there.

The First Time Ever I Saw Gervais (Tom D.), Wednesday, 27 September 2023 15:04 (one year ago) link

If I was an LGBT+ asylum seeker the UK would be far down my list of safe spaces to want to come to. I barely feel safe and I've got comparative privilege as a white cis gay man, I can't imagine how hard it is to just exist in this country without the benefits that background brings me.

boxedjoy, Wednesday, 27 September 2023 16:14 (one year ago) link

It's not like asylum seekers get free choice of which country to go to though, nor do they always have access to the best information regarding the places they're going to. Anecdotally from my time in a detention support group yes a significant portion of the ppl we were visting were LGBTQ.

Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 27 September 2023 17:26 (one year ago) link

Community life is being completely hollowed out in this country. All there is now is endless cycles of going to work, coming home, watching a mediocre streaming service and going to bed miserable, skint and tired.

Shitehole of a place. https://t.co/pHunYWuG3R

— Calum Baird🔻 (@CalumBairdSongs) September 28, 2023

xyzzzz__, Friday, 29 September 2023 10:03 (one year ago) link

Just thinking this morning how Tory and Lab have always acted as a series of coalitions. Post WWII it was a lot of housebuilding and public infrastructure (Lab coming from a social democratic perspective; Tories more patrician) but after the 70s it's been mostly a destruction, which has accelerated despite bits of relief in the late 90s.

Now the consensus is austerity all the way.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 29 September 2023 10:07 (one year ago) link

a Labour Party that refuses to side with labour and doesn't believe in the economic power of the state, you've gotta love it

Steve Bully IX (Noodle Vague), Friday, 29 September 2023 10:10 (one year ago) link

I've never felt any sense of community in this country; when people here speak of it I don't quite know what it means.

Apart from -- in a v small way -- when I've gone to a local library. It certainly was the thing that provided for me. Almost certain my life would be so different, and I'd be so much poorer without it.

I hope the younger crowd are somehow managing, but so many, at any age group, have dropped out of society altogether.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 29 September 2023 10:39 (one year ago) link

community is a huge nebulous concept that's very interesting to examine. i would say there have been times when i've experienced it, altho "belonging" is another strong, nebulous term. switch "society" for "community" and maybe Thatcher will explain the direction of travel in the UK over my lifetime

Steve Bully IX (Noodle Vague), Friday, 29 September 2023 10:55 (one year ago) link

And people wonder why Scotland consistently votes SNP, shitty as they are.

The First Time Ever I Saw Gervais (Tom D.), Friday, 29 September 2023 11:26 (one year ago) link

great to see the prime minister of this great nation gearing up to go full qanon probably sometime in the middle of next week at this rate

Just the Prime Minister of the United Kingdom planning to make a debunked far-right conspiracy theory a key part of his conference speech to the nation. pic.twitter.com/vYF4tBceIp

— Adam Bienkov (@AdamBienkov) September 29, 2023

come on barbo let’s go parpo (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 29 September 2023 12:47 (one year ago) link

number of BBC phone-ins encouraging members of the public to talk about how the doctors' strike has impacted on their healthcare = dozens

number of BBC phone-ins encouraging doctors to talk about how decades of real terms pay cuts have impacted on their lives and impacted on the NHS = zero

no gap tree for old men (Noodle Vague), Monday, 2 October 2023 07:35 (one year ago) link

Don't even start... do not, even, start https://t.co/qK8wvrnZo8 pic.twitter.com/QBnkScmbW3

— Maurice Nagington 🏳️‍🌈💃☮️ (@NagingtonUoM) September 30, 2023

xyzzzz__, Monday, 2 October 2023 09:31 (one year ago) link

Yes, the tories stand little chance of staying in at the next election.

But a year more of this kind of discourse will mean some people are so terrified of being seen as 'skivers' they will starve. I mean that quite literally + I can point you to cases where that has happened.

— Dr Jay Watts (@Shrink_at_Large) October 2, 2023

xyzzzz__, Monday, 2 October 2023 17:22 (one year ago) link

The dark lols keep coming.

So to summarise, the Government has just announced plans to scrap the biggest public transport infrastructure project planned for any Northern city, while taking part in its conference in that same city, which its Chancellor chose to travel to by plane. https://t.co/x45OU9DGhu

— Adam Bienkov (@AdamBienkov) October 2, 2023

xyzzzz__, Monday, 2 October 2023 17:25 (one year ago) link

Liz and the Growth Groove are getting the band back together.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 2 October 2023 17:29 (one year ago) link

Honestly, no matter how bad Rishi is, I can’t comprehend how shit you must be to support the worst PM in history for anything.

sell cigs to kids (a hoy hoy), Monday, 2 October 2023 17:44 (one year ago) link

He might have to call a GE to make it go away?

steely flan (suzy), Monday, 2 October 2023 17:55 (one year ago) link

i'd describe it as a fight for the soul of the Conservative Party but, well, y'know

no gap tree for old men (Noodle Vague), Monday, 2 October 2023 18:59 (one year ago) link

Starmer will back Sunak

xyzzzz__, Monday, 2 October 2023 19:10 (one year ago) link

lol

Tracer Hand, Monday, 2 October 2023 19:14 (one year ago) link

I think at some points between the Tory leadership debate and during Sunak's time as PM, both him and Truss have accused each other of having socialist policies. I think with Sunak it was his CoL payments and with Truss it was her unfunded tax cuts for the rich. But mentioning the rich was a bit awkward for him so he just called it something for nothing socialism.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 2 October 2023 19:46 (one year ago) link

is this demented US-style rhetorical turn happening in other countries or is it mostly just this shithole?

no gap tree for old men (Noodle Vague), Monday, 2 October 2023 20:58 (one year ago) link

When it comes to summing up what’s going on at the Conservative Party conference, phone footage of Priti Patel and Nigel Farage dancing and singing along to ‘Can't Take My Eyes Off You’ could hardly be more on point.pic.twitter.com/mSDiau2gGt

— Nicholas Pegg (@NicholasPegg) October 3, 2023

Portsmouth Bubblejet, Tuesday, 3 October 2023 08:43 (one year ago) link

Thought politics was solved once that awful Jeremy Corbyn was defeated. What happened?

We need robust and serious journalism as the General Election draws near. Sunak and his team of ministers cannot be allowed to get away with demonstrably false claims like meat taxes, blanket 20mph zones and 15 minute cities where councils regulate how often we can go shopping.

— Matthew Stadlen (@MatthewStadlen) October 3, 2023

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 3 October 2023 08:51 (one year ago) link

xp oh jfc they absolutely fucked and now I have that image in my head

the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 09:10 (one year ago) link

is this demented US-style rhetorical turn happening in other countries or is it mostly just this shithole?

From the places I know I'd say it's yes and no. Portugal, France and Germany all have far right parties in charge of promoting this kind of rhetoric, so it doesn't penetrate the establishment right as much. But otoh, the establishment right is consistently losing votes to these parties, so they'll probably head that way soon enough.

Daniel_Rf, Tuesday, 3 October 2023 09:41 (one year ago) link

Actually we love Sunak and co's thrillingly stupid claims.

nashwan, Tuesday, 3 October 2023 09:51 (one year ago) link

I can see them fooling Starmer into asserting that he's totally seen this on the doorsteps too, yes.

https://x.com/AdamBienkov/status/1709098695902314794?s=20

Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 3 October 2023 10:28 (one year ago) link

Bah

Just a government minister openly spreading a far right conspiracy theory, even after being challenged on it pic.twitter.com/caJczDvDYq

— Adam Bienkov (@AdamBienkov) October 3, 2023

Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 3 October 2023 10:28 (one year ago) link

They've completely lost their minds since they managed not to lose the Uxbridge by-election. They're obviously been frantically focus- grouping.

The First Time Ever I Saw Gervais (Tom D.), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 10:47 (one year ago) link

Boris Johnson's final gift to UK pol was the fallout from that by-election.

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 3 October 2023 11:57 (one year ago) link

That Sophy Ridge interview of Claire Coutinho, 2 points: 1. So antisemitism (joking about a Jewish man and a pork sandwich) is good now, it's like 2015-2019 never happened 2. Despite everything Coutinho actually does make a solid point at the end about no one knowing what Starmer thinks about anything, and she could easily have added "and he lies so much we thought we'd have a bit of fun with it". You can hardly complain about misrepresentation of your policies when you are the biggest misrepresenter of policies you held even just a few months ago, and everyone is now familiar with your strategy of suggesting and dropping policy on a whim because you are playing some game where you think you are beating your own part members.

glumdalclitch, Tuesday, 3 October 2023 13:36 (one year ago) link

*party members

glumdalclitch, Tuesday, 3 October 2023 13:37 (one year ago) link

https://news.sky.com/story/tory-london-mayor-candidate-urged-to-apologise-for-suggesting-jewish-people-are-frightened-by-sadiq-khan-12975414

Could do without Wes Streeting going on about "decent Conservatives" though.

The First Time Ever I Saw Gervais (Tom D.), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 14:13 (one year ago) link

Meat tax? That's not on Keith, not when so many are struggling to put food on the table

xl bully romance (Bananaman Begins), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 14:14 (one year ago) link

The Jewish Labour Movement accused Ms Hall of "gutter divisive politics that seeks to use the Jewish community as political pawns".

"We had quite enough of this from Jeremy Corbyn and saw him off - and have no patience for it from Susan Hall," it said.

*look to camera*

nashwan, Tuesday, 3 October 2023 14:32 (one year ago) link

fucking hell, I just saw that ch4 news clip of a wheelchair bound woman with no legs who was declared fit for work. She even showed up at the job centre after receiving no benefits for weeks and was told there are obv no job vacancies that would be appropriate for her. Who could have figured?

Just for all that hateful anti-disability spiel in Jeremy Cunt's conf speech. I genuinely hope he get's hung drawn and quartered and has the slowest and most intensely painful death in all history.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 15:12 (one year ago) link

More than a million British children do not have their own bed to sleep in. https://t.co/os4z1cLKzj

— James B (@piercepenniless) October 3, 2023

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 3 October 2023 15:37 (one year ago) link

Yvette Cooper just can't wait to get started on torpedoing migrants crossing the channel:

Suella Braverman’s speech was devoid of practical policies and divorced from the reality of Tory failure over the last 13 years. She had nothing to say about the knife crime killing our children, the epidemic of town centre crime undermining our communities, or the collapse in prosecutions under the Tories which means more criminals are getting off. Nor did she mention the 1,000 people who have arrived on small boats since Tory conference started, all because she has totally lost control of border security.

Her promise to only “begin” closing hotels sometime “soon” is a massive watering down of the prime minister’s pledge to end hotel use [to house asylum seekers] last year, all while hotel use is still going up not down, and is now costing the taxpayer an astronomical £8m a day because they have simply failed to get a grip.

Suella Braverman and helicopter-riding Rishi Sunak may have the luxury of ignoring the blight of town centre crime or the serious problems our country faces but the British people don’t

blazin' squab (NickB), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 16:58 (one year ago) link

Just for all that hateful anti-disability spiel in Jeremy Cunt's conf speech. I genuinely hope he get's hung drawn and quartered and has the slowest and most intensely painful death in all history.

Yet I'm betting Wes Streeting would consider him a "decent Conservative".

The First Time Ever I Saw Gervais (Tom D.), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 17:03 (one year ago) link

pretty feeb when you have to get your spouse on as a hype man. must've sucked for Ted Heath

no gap tree for old men (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 4 October 2023 11:04 (one year ago) link

Sarah Brown did it twice! Didn’t help him much in the long run.

Dan Worsley, Wednesday, 4 October 2023 11:17 (one year ago) link

i think there's a pattern of "partner is possibly more media-friendly than the main guy" here

no gap tree for old men (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 4 October 2023 11:31 (one year ago) link

pretty feeb when you have to get your spouse on as a hype man. must've sucked for Ted Heath


You know what else sucked for Ted Heath

a long cane appears around the corner and pulls me offstage before I can finish

I’m going to get fined for being right, again (gyac), Wednesday, 4 October 2023 11:33 (one year ago) link

Starmer's wife keeps a pretty low profile though?

The First Time Ever I Saw Gervais (Tom D.), Wednesday, 4 October 2023 11:34 (one year ago) link

xp lol i knew what i was saying

no gap tree for old men (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 4 October 2023 11:35 (one year ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F7hh3cXXsAAJaLG?format=jpg&name=large

leadership makeover has her looking increasingly like Martian Girl from Mars Attacks, Braverman standing on a guide dog's tail. That's about right really.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 4 October 2023 12:56 (one year ago) link

Gillian Keegan, the education secretary, seemed moved to tears at one point during Rishi Sunak’s speech when Sunak talked about the pride his immigrant grandfather expressed when Sunak became an MP.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 4 October 2023 14:34 (one year ago) link

this is also conservative housing policy https://t.co/AfEIHrZXJ7

— 𝔐𝔞𝔤𝔫𝔢𝔱𝔰 🧲 (@PerthshireMags) October 4, 2023

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 4 October 2023 14:35 (one year ago) link

lol otm

smoking ban sounds awesome, hope i live long enough to watch middle aged people getting carded, might prove to be a moneyspinner in the absence of a pension

no gap tree for old men (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 4 October 2023 14:38 (one year ago) link

Almost a quarter of the HS2 money, unless I’ve misunderstood the background paper, is going on pothole repairs

— Jennifer Williams (@JenWilliams_FT) October 4, 2023

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 4 October 2023 14:45 (one year ago) link

I cannot stop watching this. It’s one of the most peculiar things I’ve ever seen, which given the venue, is really saying something. Get to the end (if you can). pic.twitter.com/tvn3HCxsSC

— Brendan May (@bmay) October 4, 2023

Portsmouth Bubblejet, Wednesday, 4 October 2023 16:00 (one year ago) link

if i wanted to avoid being accused of fascism i would simply avoid copping the language and mannerisms of a fascist

no gap tree for old men (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 4 October 2023 16:59 (one year ago) link

that was so laughably Trussesque, not really up there with the sword carrying symbolic fascism that made her a Tory pin-up at QEII's planting ceremony.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 4 October 2023 17:05 (one year ago) link

i'm sure she was coached - whoever coached her must be head in hands - but the Mussolini/Hitler hand jive is a bit on the nose for a dogwhistle

no gap tree for old men (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 4 October 2023 17:09 (one year ago) link

Well their most succesful leader was Thatcher who remains one of the weirdest, most outré, public figures I have ever seen.

The First Time Ever I Saw Gervais (Tom D.), Wednesday, 4 October 2023 17:26 (one year ago) link

twirling, twirling, twirling towards freedom!

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 4 October 2023 18:48 (one year ago) link

post Truss, they all know it doesn't matter how embarrassing, widely mocked and self-debasing their conference speeches are - they've still got a shot at leadership.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 4 October 2023 18:57 (one year ago) link

it's true people seem to have forgotten all the bizarre shit thatcher came out with on a daily basis

the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 4 October 2023 19:22 (one year ago) link

Ok this government is fucked

Mate you need to tell your photoshop team to bear in mind that when they search for stock images, "UK" also stands for University of Kentucky. https://t.co/1iuvCBcjSb

— Ledbury Dan (@LedburyGas) October 5, 2023

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 5 October 2023 09:07 (one year ago) link

Step one. Seize the land, demolish homes and businesses.
Step two: Sell off the land for billions of pounds and take the profits elsewhere. https://t.co/MKZhITAUGP

— Richard Osley (@RichardOsley) October 5, 2023

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 5 October 2023 09:11 (one year ago) link

RIP the Bree Louise

Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Thursday, 5 October 2023 09:16 (one year ago) link

Turns out there are University of Kentucky fans in Cornwall, UK government to last 100 years

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 5 October 2023 11:26 (one year ago) link

Sorry that was in response to Alphie's first link there, which is now dead - a recent picture of Rishi and some delighted fans looked like a bad (subject) photoshop when it's probably just a bad (methods) photoshop.

They may or may not be from the UK and he may or may not have met them, but its certainly a photoshop... pic.twitter.com/BOIRT5Qnpg

— David (@WondrousDavid) October 5, 2023

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 5 October 2023 11:35 (one year ago) link

Correct number of fingers = That'll do

xl bully romance (Bananaman Begins), Thursday, 5 October 2023 12:01 (one year ago) link

That’s not exactly a given with tories

I’m going to get fined for being right, again (gyac), Thursday, 5 October 2023 12:03 (one year ago) link

they should have mirked up the teeth a bit

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 5 October 2023 12:45 (one year ago) link

we've probably got the worst, most unaffordable dental care system of the G7, so no point shopping these young happy looking descendents of the Mayfair pilgrims with pearly white smiles!

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 5 October 2023 12:52 (one year ago) link

lol Mayfair ... I meant Mayflower

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 5 October 2023 12:54 (one year ago) link

top-shelf dental care

come on barbo let’s go parpo (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 5 October 2023 13:10 (one year ago) link

Saw Mayfair Pilgrims during the Onka's Big Mocha tour. Great days.

nashwan, Thursday, 5 October 2023 13:14 (one year ago) link

I just had a filling today where half the tooth had broken off and the dentist put's a huge glob of dental cement on it and sculps it into something resembling a full tooth. £180 it cost me and his parting comment was basically "it's looking solid, but try not to use it too much"

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 5 October 2023 13:23 (one year ago) link

😬

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 5 October 2023 13:50 (one year ago) link

Are you sure this was an actual dentist?

fucking beanie hat music (Matt #2), Thursday, 5 October 2023 14:11 (one year ago) link

well he was wearing a cowboy hat. Tbh he seemed better than my last dentist, two of his fillings failed on me. Because this was an urgent care appointment that I was paying for, the lack of contempt I used to get as an NHS patient was quite noticeable.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 5 October 2023 14:22 (one year ago) link

the proper option would be to get it crowned but that's effing £600

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 5 October 2023 14:24 (one year ago) link

as i’ve gotten older i’ve taken out dental insurance and it’s already paid for itself many times over. my teeth are a fucking disaster zone

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 5 October 2023 14:26 (one year ago) link

I use to be quite shocked and saddened at losing a tooth like it was a death in the family or something. Now I'm just like.. hey ho.. there goes another of the fuckers

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 5 October 2023 14:30 (one year ago) link

English dentists:

My dentist can do it all, from a simple cleaning to identifying my charred remains

— josh (oldfriend99) (@oldfriend99) November 18, 2017

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 5 October 2023 15:00 (one year ago) link

The white van drivers tho'

this is surely bad politics? He ought to be planning-blighting that land like [tasteless historical simile removed]. Just say "we'll be needing that land in less than eighteen months so don't go building anything you'd be sad to see knocked down" https://t.co/jf3W9n1foQ

— Dan Davies (@dsquareddigest) October 5, 2023

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 5 October 2023 19:10 (one year ago) link

Don't know specifics but first impression is that a 30% turnout at the next election is great for the Lab right

Rutherglen was a high profile by-election and the main political parties will have channelled huge resources into it.

A 37% turnout is grim. It’s 13% lower than the average Westminster by-election in recent decades, and nearly 30% lower than turnout at the last general election.

— Miriam Brett (@MiriamBrett) October 6, 2023

xyzzzz__, Friday, 6 October 2023 11:46 (one year ago) link

it's ok because some passionate centrist radicals are pointing out that the entire constituency are druggies and scum

no gap tree for old men (Noodle Vague), Friday, 6 October 2023 11:50 (one year ago) link

Who was the leader when Labour last won the seat from the SNP? On a 63.5% turnout, without the advantage of the last SNP MP being convicted of breaking COVID rules? Without the SNP being mired in financial scandals and led by a donkey? Why, only the Evil Jeremy Crippen!

The First Time Ever I Saw Gervais (Tom D.), Friday, 6 October 2023 12:31 (one year ago) link

I'm not sure that all tracks - the turnout was even higher when the seat was lost in 2019. You're absolutely right that no-one seems to want to consider the circumstances of the recall - Scotland's first. But Labour only lost 700 votes from 2019, SNP lost 15k, Tories 7k, even the Lib Dems found 2k to lose - I don't like it but it's a Labour win.

Andrew Farrell, Friday, 6 October 2023 12:47 (one year ago) link

pleased to say i did my part in contributing to that dismal turnout yesterday

come on barbo let’s go parpo (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 6 October 2023 13:08 (one year ago) link

winning by default is just worthless cynical opportunism. Failing to make a credible case of why more people should gaf about voting for your garbage party is not a plan and it will come back and bite them hard. The apathy might bring them to power for one electoral cycle, and then they'll get wiped out next time and it will serve them right.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 6 October 2023 14:13 (one year ago) link

Lol @ green party linking to this piece arguing against HS2 that uses Concorde as an example of worthless infrastructure

#HS2

Even in far larger nations, “Sometimes, the auditors concluded, a better solution would have been “upgrading existing conventional lines”, but this had seldom even been considered.”https://t.co/fpmsUs2Mt7

— Natalie Bennett (@natalieben) October 5, 2023

xyzzzz__, Friday, 6 October 2023 14:16 (one year ago) link

And the money from cutting HS2 won't be used for an upgrade. These greens also need their heads chopped off

xyzzzz__, Friday, 6 October 2023 14:18 (one year ago) link

sometimes they make it really hard to adopt them as a Labour alternative

no gap tree for old men (Noodle Vague), Friday, 6 October 2023 14:19 (one year ago) link

They just aren't that, though in Scotland they seem to be a bit more lined up with those principles.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 6 October 2023 15:40 (one year ago) link

i consider them an alternative to the extent that it would be nice to mark the refusal to vote for Labour by transferring the votes elsewhere

i know in my heart all parliamentary politics is futile, obv

no gap tree for old men (Noodle Vague), Friday, 6 October 2023 16:00 (one year ago) link

I'll probably go through the rest of my life without ever voting again but it would nice to leave some permanent mark on the electoral stats, that resoundingly says fuck off die Labour without actually voting for any of the other awful parties.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 6 October 2023 19:53 (one year ago) link

You will never get that seat mate

At a time when socialists should be calling for restraint, and condemning attacks on civilians, the leader of the Progressive International tweets this: there are two Labour MPs plus @jeremycorbyn on the Council of PI - they should resign immediately 👇🏽 pic.twitter.com/vFoL2oflzW

— Paul Mason (@paulmasonnews) October 7, 2023

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 7 October 2023 10:26 (one year ago) link

it doesn’t really matter which wet losers on the British left are decrying the resistance offensive because thankfully Palestine is being liberated by it’s own people

— Nihal | نهال (@nihalist___) October 7, 2023

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 7 October 2023 10:43 (one year ago) link

BREAKING: Foreign Secretary James Cleverly runs for cover in Israel after siren warning of incoming rocket fire goes offhttps://t.co/Itk5K8jytO

— Sky News (@SkyNews) October 11, 2023

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 11 October 2023 17:43 (one year ago) link

would that be a casualty it's ok to celebrate?

no gap tree for old men (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 11 October 2023 17:44 (one year ago) link

Another one who has been zapped by Jezza's lawyers.

I have deleted the tweet and I am happy to retract that comment to correct the record. I apologise for any damage caused to Jeremy Corbyn's reputation

— Rachel Cunliffe (@RMCunliffe) October 11, 2023

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 11 October 2023 18:15 (one year ago) link

Apparently she is no longer backing independence as it's too "divisive"

the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 12 October 2023 10:23 (one year ago) link

Who'd hae thocht?

The First Time Ever I Saw Gervais (Tom D.), Thursday, 12 October 2023 10:26 (one year ago) link

it's almost as if being a politician is a career path for some people and the pay, conditions and sense of importance are the motivators rather than actually believing in anything

no gap tree for old men (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 12 October 2023 10:40 (one year ago) link

Imagine seeing the Tory party as a bully-free zone.

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 12 October 2023 12:32 (one year ago) link

I am devastated by the ongoing violence in Palestine and Israel. My statement: pic.twitter.com/9e4vy4Cd9w

— Zarah Sultana MP (@zarahsultana) October 12, 2023

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 12 October 2023 21:30 (one year ago) link

Reliable as ever. My what a lot of bluetick non-entities in the replies.

nashwan, Thursday, 12 October 2023 22:04 (one year ago) link

A reliable source of gammonati blocks.

steely flan (suzy), Thursday, 12 October 2023 22:39 (one year ago) link

The U.K. immigration minister is threatening deportation, on national security grounds, for expressing solidarity for Palestinian liberation…which the government is equating with support for Hamas https://t.co/kupBDxuUCW

— Yaz (@ontologoff) October 13, 2023

xyzzzz__, Friday, 13 October 2023 11:49 (one year ago) link

We may be witnessing the total obliteration of Gaza.

Political leaders refusing to speak out should feel eternal shame over the horror they are allowing to unfold.

Those of us who believe in peace cannot stay silent. We must say to the Palestinian people: you are not alone.

— Jeremy Corbyn (@jeremycorbyn) October 13, 2023

xyzzzz__, Friday, 13 October 2023 19:07 (one year ago) link

A power which requires a person to remove items which conceal their identity has been authorised in the areas pictured below.

This is known as a Section 60AA.

It will be in force until 22:00hrs. pic.twitter.com/ifu300CRqR

— Metropolitan Police (@metpoliceuk) October 14, 2023

nashwan, Saturday, 14 October 2023 15:23 (one year ago) link

I couldn’t join the march because Widget’s sitter is on holiday but I saw loads of happy young people with Palestinian flags join the Tube carriage I was on (was coming back from taking W to Battersea Park to play with other whippets). Chatted to the kid sitting next to me who said it was super-peaceful, who was also delighted by the ‘fuck Starmer’ chanting.

steely flan (suzy), Saturday, 14 October 2023 15:49 (one year ago) link

"The International Centre of Justice for Palestinians (ICJP) - of which [Conservative MP Crispin] Blunt is co-director - announced it has written a notice of intention to prosecute UK government officials for "aiding and abetting war crimes in Gaza""https://t.co/ORxrFJgMZ0

— Jas Nijjar (@JasNijjar123) October 14, 2023

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 14 October 2023 21:16 (one year ago) link

Christina Patterson on Sky News saying Starmer and Sunak have got it right and thank God Jeremy Corbyn is no longer the leader of the Labour Party and how fearful the Jewish community would be if Corbyn was leader. This is Christina Patterson, by the way:

In 2010, the Simon Wiesenthal Center, an anti-racist watchdog group, selected one of Patterson's columns as among the top ten anti-Semitic incidents of that year. She had written in The Independent: "I would like to teach some of my neighbours some manners … I don't care if they wear frock coats and funny suits and hats covered in plastic bags and insist on wearing their hair in ringlets (if they're male) or covered up by wigs (if they're female), but I do think they could treat their neighbors with a bit more courtesy and respect. I didn't realize that goyim were about as welcome in the Hasidic Jewish shops as Martin Luther King, Jr. at a Ku Klux Klan convention. I didn't realize that a purchase by a goy was a crime to be punished with monosyllabic terseness or that bus seats were a potential source of contamination or that road signs and parking restrictions were for people who hadn't been chosen by God." Patterson responded to the assertions made by the Simon Wiesenthal Center in a column titled "How I was smeared as an anti-Semite", in which she defended her original prose.

The First Time Ever I Saw Gervais (Tom D.), Saturday, 14 October 2023 23:47 (one year ago) link

there’s always a tweet

Tracer Hand, Sunday, 15 October 2023 10:39 (one year ago) link

or a career, in this case

no gap tree for old men (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 15 October 2023 10:43 (one year ago) link

impressively gratuitous gender essentialism within her antisemitic rant too - incredible

even by UK media standards that is really bad - as bad as the worst from any prominent corbynite - I'm sure she'll be fine though

Left, Sunday, 15 October 2023 11:23 (one year ago) link

She's been fine! The article is from 2010 and didn't damage her then, it won't now either.

Daniel_Rf, Sunday, 15 October 2023 11:27 (one year ago) link

I briefly worked for CPatt and had to resign after a month because she was so insane.

Piedie Gimbel, Sunday, 15 October 2023 11:31 (one year ago) link

She's been fine! The article is from 2010 and didn't damage her then

In fact she got some more material for her column, hurrah!

The First Time Ever I Saw Gervais (Tom D.), Sunday, 15 October 2023 12:34 (one year ago) link

So what is Crispin Blunt's story?

His wiki says he supports Transgender and Palestinian rights.

https://twtter.com/SaulStaniforth/status/1713518340847567144?s=20

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 15 October 2023 12:45 (one year ago) link

"It is article 25 of the Rome Statute, which makes that powers and people who aid and encourage the committing of a war crime are then committing an offence themselves"

Tory MP Crispin Blunt. pic.twitter.com/ci9Aa1jNAg

— Saul Staniforth (@SaulStaniforth) October 15, 2023

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 15 October 2023 12:45 (one year ago) link

Maverick Tory.

The First Time Ever I Saw Gervais (Tom D.), Sunday, 15 October 2023 12:51 (one year ago) link

or that bus seats were a potential source of contamination

That’s a skill issue, i travelled on many buses through that area of north London & never had any trouble or that experience, seems like a personal problem

I’m going to get fined for being right, again (gyac), Sunday, 15 October 2023 13:09 (one year ago) link

I imagine everything she has ever written is a personal problem.

The First Time Ever I Saw Gervais (Tom D.), Sunday, 15 October 2023 13:36 (one year ago) link

zac goldsmith tweeting about how rife with anti-semitism the demonstrations that he didn't attend were. thank god he's here to point out racism for us

blazin' squab (NickB), Sunday, 15 October 2023 13:40 (one year ago) link

Characterful (i.e. irritating dickhead) Tory MP, Peter Bone, should be be suspended for six weeks for bullying and sexual misconduct according to report.

The First Time Ever I Saw Gervais (Tom D.), Monday, 16 October 2023 11:35 (one year ago) link

6 weeks suspension is absolutely in line with what you'd get in any other job for "many varied acts of bullying and one act of sexual misconduct"

no gap tree for old men (Noodle Vague), Monday, 16 October 2023 12:04 (one year ago) link

Just so appalled by this

Keir Starmer's right. Gaza is a humanitarian emergency.

Hamas must release hostages and stop using Palestinian civilians as shields.

Israel’s defence must be in line with intl law - protecting civilians, giving access to aid and safe corridors.

We must bring more aid to Gaza.

— David Lammy (@DavidLammy) October 16, 2023

I’m going to get fined for being right, again (gyac), Monday, 16 October 2023 16:42 (one year ago) link

Keir Starmer and David Lammy do you condemn Tzipi Hotovely?

glumdalclitch, Monday, 16 October 2023 16:52 (one year ago) link

wondering how much this ICJP letter has put the fear in them

i mean not enough, of course, but the aggro stance is getting dialed down

no gap tree for old men (Noodle Vague), Monday, 16 October 2023 16:54 (one year ago) link

Surely it's more likely to be Lammy's Washington contacts?

glumdalclitch, Monday, 16 October 2023 16:58 (one year ago) link

i'm sure it can be both, but there's another set of questions there about Washington suddenly tempering its war crimes appreciation

no gap tree for old men (Noodle Vague), Monday, 16 October 2023 17:02 (one year ago) link

I don’t know anything about the letter but the absolute callousness of the response only confirmed what I already thought about this iteration of the party. No doubt they’d be siding against the fucking Guildford Four if that happened today.

I’m going to get fined for being right, again (gyac), Monday, 16 October 2023 17:38 (one year ago) link

Richard Madeley asks British Palestinian MP Layla Moran if she or her family knew about Hamas's attack before it happened #GMB pic.twitter.com/guUptvdlGk

— Saul Staniforth (@SaulStaniforth) October 17, 2023

what else can you say?

I’m going to get fined for being right, again (gyac), Tuesday, 17 October 2023 12:29 (one year ago) link

Jemima Goldsmith is the only one of her dad’s kids who is worth anything.

https://i.postimg.cc/nrDnHTqW/IMG-0895.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/dDcwDdBV/IMG-0896.jpg

Reproducing the text of her latest tweet, which is too long to embed:

I realise that Twitter spats don’t help anyone. I have found it hard to disengage - I have Jewish and Muslim family members & friends, whom I deeply love. I have lived in a Muslim country for ten years and have been to Gaza & The West Bank and I also have a historic family connection to Israel. I have personally had (and continue to receive) countless death threats on account of my Jewishness & faced decades of antisemitic abuse. The father of my children was shot, according  to his would- be -assassin, because of his “proximity to the Jews” – ie. me. Meanwhile my children have faced Islamophobia in the UK (& antisemitism in Pakistan!).  

Perhaps because of these experiences, I passionately believe that political tribalism is the enemy, not just of reasonable discourse but of peace. It’s why I’m so in awe of the bravery & integrity of those Israelis who despite having lost relatives in the last few days, have made some of the most powerful statements against the ongoing bombing of Gaza. I pray their voices are heard. Killing and maiming thousands more innocent children will not save terrorised hostages, nor will it bring peace and, like the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan post 9-11, will likely only create more terrorism and a less safe world for all of us.

I’m going to get fined for being right, again (gyac), Wednesday, 18 October 2023 09:37 (one year ago) link

The details here are horrible. like #1 of every option is "stop taking this into account when deciding if someone has low capability for work" and the things are like "are they incontinent", "are they unable to move 50m unaided" i hate the dwp https://t.co/nMUvdmYECh pic.twitter.com/N0DvUzck2l

— tom (@tombomp) October 20, 2023

xyzzzz__, Friday, 20 October 2023 15:49 (one year ago) link

Poor guy.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-67172707

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 21 October 2023 12:24 (one year ago) link

Londoners who want to support Palestinian businesses could do a lot worse than getting food from branches of Hiba, another Palestinian restaurant/take-away.

steely flan (suzy), Saturday, 21 October 2023 12:52 (one year ago) link

looking forward to all the op eds railing against the people making these threats

no gap tree for old men (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 21 October 2023 13:07 (one year ago) link

🇵🇸 Our march for Palestine has begun 🇵🇸

Thousands on the streets calling for a #CeasefireNOW and a #FreePalestine pic.twitter.com/2kcvr4tipd

— PSC (@PSCupdates) October 21, 2023

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 21 October 2023 13:36 (one year ago) link

Lol.

EXCL: Jeremy Hunt expected to quit as MP before next election, according to senior Tories, who say chancellor is aware he could suffer a “Michael Portillo” moment on polling day - by ⁦@tobyhelmhttps://t.co/zwZSaODTRD

— Pippa Crerar (@PippaCrerar) October 21, 2023

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 22 October 2023 08:59 (one year ago) link

profiles in courage pt 8769

come on barbo let’s go parpo (bizarro gazzara), Sunday, 22 October 2023 09:07 (one year ago) link

this fuckin guy

Tracer Hand, Sunday, 22 October 2023 09:20 (one year ago) link

Missing a once in a lifetime opportunity to give anyone a little bit of pleasure.

Chewshabadoo, Sunday, 22 October 2023 13:33 (one year ago) link

Today tens of thousands of people will take to the streets in towns and cities across Ireland in solidarity with the Palestinian people.

I joined my local rally in Dungannon, and the message from there and across the island to the Israeli government is clear and simple - STOP.… pic.twitter.com/8bJDhkl4Cf

— Michelle O’Neill (@moneillsf) October 21, 2023

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 22 October 2023 20:55 (one year ago) link

🚨NEW: the gov has announced an indefinite delay to banning no-fault evictions following "extensive lobbying" from the UK's biggest landlord group

it also comes days before michael gove delivers the keynote speech at the national landlord conference...https://t.co/GAots79nHi

— ruby lott-lavigna (@RubyJLL) October 23, 2023

xyzzzz__, Monday, 23 October 2023 15:18 (one year ago) link

so what i'm hearing is if renters don't want to be treated like shit they should form a lobby group?

no gap tree for old men (Noodle Vague), Monday, 23 October 2023 15:22 (one year ago) link

Better still, become Tory MPs.

The First Time Ever I Saw Gervais (Tom D.), Monday, 23 October 2023 15:44 (one year ago) link

There is one: ACORN

steely flan (suzy), Monday, 23 October 2023 16:30 (one year ago) link

The House of Commons is the landlords' lobby.

glumdalclitch, Monday, 23 October 2023 16:32 (one year ago) link

journalist after journalist today, from all sections of the media: "wow these revelations about Boris Johnson, who was universally known as a callous, feckless, air-brained cunt before he became Prime Minister, are completely surprising"

what chance anything improving ever?

no gap tree for old men (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 31 October 2023 17:46 (one year ago) link

I have instructed my lawyers to take the first steps in commencing legal proceedings against @ChrisClarksonMP for a highly defamatory statement about me.

I will not stand by and have my reputation traduced. pic.twitter.com/PP4Euqw3U1

— Andy McDonald MP (@AndyMcDonaldMP) November 2, 2023

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 2 November 2023 17:30 (one year ago) link

grovelling apology incoming i guess

no gap tree for old men (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 2 November 2023 17:38 (one year ago) link

given everything lately (COVID enquiry, sunac X musk etc) I'm curious as to why this thread isn't on fire.

koogs, Saturday, 4 November 2023 16:27 (one year ago) link

Braverman's next wheeze will probably be setting the homeless on fire. I'm guessing that with all this bollocks she's angling for a) leadership of the post-defeat Tory party, b) leadership of some far-right splinter party if the Tories properly implode (unlikely this would happen but good for her to hedge the bets), or c) a lucrative post-politics speaking/consultancy career funded by dark money. Possibly a combo of a and c?

like being cornered by a drunk gareth southgate (Matt #2), Saturday, 4 November 2023 16:49 (one year ago) link

(xp) People have given up on the Tories - apart from Braverman's insanities - all the action is over in the Labour Party thread.

The First Time Ever I Saw Gervais (Tom D.), Saturday, 4 November 2023 16:55 (one year ago) link

Oliver Dowden tells @skynews: "I'm a bit disappointed that if you look at the moral indignation after the murder of George Floyd in the US with the Black Lives Matter movement, we haven't seen across civic society the same kind of moral clarity that Jewish lives matter."

— Pippa Crerar (@PippaCrerar) November 5, 2023

"moral clarity" seems to be the phrase/euphemism that supporters of Israel's military campaign have settled on to describe their position? Saw lots of people were using it wrt Robert Habeck's speech as well

soref, Sunday, 5 November 2023 10:43 (one year ago) link

BLM of course famous for indiscriminately killing cops and their families on an industrial scale

no gap tree for old men (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 5 November 2023 10:51 (one year ago) link

I'd say people that reduce BLM to a dubious rhetorical prop don't really give a fuck about racial equality. I could be wrong, but it seems like a bit of a tell to me.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 5 November 2023 11:38 (one year ago) link

NEW: Humza Yousaf has said that pro-Palestinian marches in London on Armistice Day should go ahead.

He added that describing them as 'hate marches' is 'unacceptable' and that he was 'beyond angry' at the UK Government's response to the planned demonstrations. pic.twitter.com/UBPsNiTYPd

— The National (@ScotNational) November 6, 2023

xyzzzz__, Monday, 6 November 2023 13:32 (one year ago) link

Racism on tube trains

While Braverman & Co try convincing us that those supporting Palestinians are all spreading hate they have been inspiring prejudice themselves. These messages have been found in my local neighbourhood over the last couple of days. One in a school & the others on the central line. pic.twitter.com/Ipech1vakW

— Faiza Shaheen (@faizashaheen) November 5, 2023

xyzzzz__, Monday, 6 November 2023 13:34 (one year ago) link

The International Criminal Court must investigate the crime of genocide in Gaza.

Read my piece for @AJEnglish here: https://t.co/19RkumDSBd pic.twitter.com/WiB6jdfgyP

— Jeremy Corbyn (@jeremycorbyn) November 6, 2023

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 7 November 2023 11:06 (one year ago) link

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/nov/08/suella-braverman-accuses-police-of-double-standards-on-rallies

The home secretary likened the recent marches calling for a ceasefire in the war between Israel and Hamas to sectarian rallies in Northern Ireland.

There's someone who's never seen an Orange Walk, no way are pro-ceasefire marchers a bunch of pug ugly neanderthals for a start.

The First Time Ever I Saw Gervais (Tom D.), Thursday, 9 November 2023 07:33 (one year ago) link

1/2 With my historian of British fascism hat on: this is the first time in history that a serving Home Secretary has called on far-right crowds to attack a left-wing social movement

— David Renton (@Livesrunning) November 8, 2023

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 9 November 2023 08:55 (one year ago) link

The local Lab group here are doing a vigil outside her constituency office.

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 9 November 2023 09:13 (one year ago) link

The gas part is that Suella just called the Orange order terror marches because she can’t tell the difference between bog paddy and loyal paddy. Unreal stuff https://t.co/nLitPZdfl4

— The Blindboy Podcast (@Rubberbandits) November 9, 2023

mojo dojo casas house (gyac), Thursday, 9 November 2023 10:55 (one year ago) link

OTM. Typical though.

The First Time Ever I Saw Gervais (Tom D.), Thursday, 9 November 2023 11:12 (one year ago) link

'there will be time for proper discussion about how we got to this point'

yeah but will there tho, rly

come on barbo let’s go parpo (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 9 November 2023 12:28 (one year ago) link

At this point, she is baiting Sunak more than anything but he’s too frit to sack her, much less remove the whip so she can’t challenge his leadership.

AFAIC no punishment is too good for her.

steely flan (suzy), Thursday, 9 November 2023 12:35 (one year ago) link

I’m just glad she’s taking the woke met police to task

Boris Yitsbin (wins), Thursday, 9 November 2023 12:41 (one year ago) link

she seems have got bolder and more deranged since she had her leadership makeover, whoever leads them is likely facing electoral oblivion next year. She can't even internalise her bigotry in a coherent way, no hope for her!

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 9 November 2023 13:32 (one year ago) link

Like so many of these far right scumbags she seems incredibly stupid.

The First Time Ever I Saw Gervais (Tom D.), Thursday, 9 November 2023 13:44 (one year ago) link

A living example that sex cults can't fix everything.

Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 9 November 2023 13:52 (one year ago) link

a customer asked if we had the nadine dorries book in stock today, we didn't. and then went on to say that they'd seen her on tv this morning and thought she made a lot of sense. what a country. luckily I was wearing my mask so could face no complaints about the expression on my face of sheer incredulity that greeted this statement.

oscar bravo, Thursday, 9 November 2023 20:15 (one year ago) link

did the mask stop you from smelling the booze on their breath?

no gap tree for old men (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 9 November 2023 20:17 (one year ago) link

For all those mentioning Suella, Camden Council is a Labour run council and the MP for this area is Keir Starmer btw

What Suella said is not law so this is off their own doing https://t.co/VWbdxR7wua

— Talker (@ifetalksback) November 10, 2023

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 10 November 2023 17:33 (one year ago) link

That would be something to lay at the feet of our Red Princess council leader Georgia Gould - Phillip’s daughter.

steely flan (suzy), Friday, 10 November 2023 17:55 (one year ago) link

Far right wankers kicking off at the Cenotaph, wow, never saw that coming.

The First Time Ever I Saw Gervais (Tom D.), Saturday, 11 November 2023 11:25 (one year ago) link

Nazis gonna naz

no gap tree for old men (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 11 November 2023 11:27 (one year ago) link

The far right paying their respects to the war dead. Absolute disgrace. ⁦@SuellaBraverman⁩ this is on you pic.twitter.com/0Rbspj4bfE

— Nick Lowles (@lowles_nick) November 11, 2023

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 11 November 2023 11:34 (one year ago) link

Shit cocaine and white supremacy really a heady cocktail huh

mojo dojo casas house (gyac), Saturday, 11 November 2023 11:35 (one year ago) link

I refuse to believe I have any shared genetic similarities with this subspecies

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 11 November 2023 12:01 (one year ago) link

grim lol at dunty, yes i think we can figure out how this happened actually

https://i.imgur.com/C6gR60l.png

the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 11 November 2023 12:12 (one year ago) link

Gutter hack:

Calgie
@christiancalgie
I’m sure Tommy Robinson and his vile ilk would have just stayed at home had Suella Braverman not said anything. Certainly wouldn’t merely have been provoked by a massive pro-Palestine march on armistice day

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 11 November 2023 13:39 (one year ago) link

"You're not English any more"

These officers are deployed in central London today to keep people safe.

They were met with violence and abuse by counter protestors who threw bottles and other missiles at them.

We will respond robustly to unacceptable aggression and disorder. pic.twitter.com/RtthaAHYYD

— Metropolitan Police (@metpoliceuk) November 11, 2023

nashwan, Saturday, 11 November 2023 13:51 (one year ago) link

politician accuses politician of playing politics over politician's remarks on political event.

organ doner (ledge), Sunday, 12 November 2023 14:59 (one year ago) link

Pathetic isn't it?

The First Time Ever I Saw Gervais (Tom D.), Sunday, 12 November 2023 15:00 (one year ago) link

Braverman sacked...

xyzzzz__, Monday, 13 November 2023 08:40 (one year ago) link

You beat me to it.

Struggling to think who’s worse they could appoint. 3p Lee maybe?

mojo dojo casas house (gyac), Monday, 13 November 2023 08:41 (one year ago) link

in 2023 we just have to enjoy the small victories as they happen

no gap tree for old men (Noodle Vague), Monday, 13 November 2023 08:42 (one year ago) link

idk, is this where she launches her leadership bid?

the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 13 November 2023 08:47 (one year ago) link

Yeah maybe but NV otm

mojo dojo casas house (gyac), Monday, 13 November 2023 08:50 (one year ago) link

The ironically-named James Cleverly is the new home secretary apparently, which means a whole reshuffle I suppose.

the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 13 November 2023 09:03 (one year ago) link

Sunak grows a pair or, more likely, they've been hearing from Tory MPs in nice peaceful Tory constituencies who are shitting themselves over losing their seats to the Lib Dems.

The First Time Ever I Saw Gervais (Tom D.), Monday, 13 November 2023 09:25 (one year ago) link

We are lucky that leaning this heavily into fascism is not yet a proven vote-winning strategy in the UK.

the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 13 November 2023 09:34 (one year ago) link

> Struggling to think who’s worse they could appoint.

jenrick?

koogs, Monday, 13 November 2023 09:36 (one year ago) link

Yeah notably Sunak announced a list of five areas for crackdown, including on "from the rivers to the sea" - but he announced them rather than Braverman or them both together suggests he's comfortable with cracking down on pro-Palestinian marches (while being a lot less fond of the Football Lads Aliiance, sorry I mean the Democratic Football Lads Alliance)

https://web.archive.org/web/20231113090234/https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/24714273/rishi-sunak-protest-clampdown-armistice-day-palestine-march/

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 13 November 2023 09:41 (one year ago) link

sadlol Cameron. Sure let's get people used to non-MPs in a Tory Cabinet...

nashwan, Monday, 13 November 2023 09:41 (one year ago) link

Yes, I'm fairly sure Sunak agrees with Braverman on most things.

The First Time Ever I Saw Gervais (Tom D.), Monday, 13 November 2023 09:42 (one year ago) link

the base her rhetoric was playing to are more likely to be Patriotic Alternative members than tory voters and it seems there are some limits to how fascist your speech can be within the UK govt, who'd have thought that was possible!

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 13 November 2023 09:46 (one year ago) link

Does sacking her now mean they expect to lose the Supreme Court appeal on Rwanda?

nashwan, Monday, 13 November 2023 09:49 (one year ago) link

Lord David Cameron is the new Foreign Secretary. You couldn't make it up.

The First Time Ever I Saw Gervais (Tom D.), Monday, 13 November 2023 09:57 (one year ago) link

I think she'd be gone by the end of the week anyway, but the timing has some relevance - there's a ruling on the Rwanda scheme due this week; if the ruling came down against the scheme, then there's the opportunity for her to demand pulling out of the European Court of Human Rights, and leave on a point of principle.

I mean also as a pint of timing, no-one wants to accidentally win a Tory leadership contest before the election!

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 13 November 2023 09:59 (one year ago) link

jesus wept, I thought youse were joking about Cameron

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 13 November 2023 10:11 (one year ago) link

I wouldn't see this as being about policy differences really, much more about Braverman openly ridiculing Sunak's authority

no gap tree for old men (Noodle Vague), Monday, 13 November 2023 10:12 (one year ago) link

Hahahaha fucking hell, didn’t Sunak slag him off at conference last year

mojo dojo casas house (gyac), Monday, 13 November 2023 10:13 (one year ago) link

I guess this takes some media attention away from Braverman.

nashwan, Monday, 13 November 2023 10:13 (one year ago) link

I guess as a side note he wants to appeal to the polite racists of the liberal commentariat rather than actual boot boys but I think that's the lesser issue for him

no gap tree for old men (Noodle Vague), Monday, 13 November 2023 10:13 (one year ago) link

good to see them leaning back to a more civil and centrist-leaning brand of tory fascism

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 13 November 2023 10:16 (one year ago) link

i guess Cameron felt he’d left some small part of his legacy untarnished so has taken action to correct that

Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Monday, 13 November 2023 10:20 (one year ago) link

yes it's all about optics, Sunak and Braverman have the same ideology but he's a nice polished man while she's an angry woman*, tories want their fascism served politely

* nb this in no way means you should champion her as a victim of sexism

Daniel_Rf, Monday, 13 November 2023 10:28 (one year ago) link

I can’t believe I’m defending Sunak but while he’s awful, I really don’t think he’s on her level at all

mojo dojo casas house (gyac), Monday, 13 November 2023 10:30 (one year ago) link

good to see them leaning back to a more civil and centrist-leaning brand of tory fascism


Nice guys you could have a beer with drink champagne at the Spectator garden party with

mojo dojo casas house (gyac), Monday, 13 November 2023 10:31 (one year ago) link

i guess Sunak probably comes from a more globalist ideology if we must be fair to the lad

no gap tree for old men (Noodle Vague), Monday, 13 November 2023 10:36 (one year ago) link

anyway i'm psyched for Foreign Secretary Cameroon meets Special Ambassador for Genocide T Blair

no gap tree for old men (Noodle Vague), Monday, 13 November 2023 10:40 (one year ago) link

it would be so hilarious if they beat Starmer in the next GE by matching some of their least shit policies and running a fake one-nation reboot campaign, that 6/1 being quoted might start looking very generous by 2024

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 13 November 2023 10:43 (one year ago) link

Analysis pic.twitter.com/UFsrUbProI

— Peter (@pickyouredge) November 13, 2023

xyzzzz__, Monday, 13 November 2023 10:50 (one year ago) link

good to see Peter O'Hanraha-Hanrahan still getting work

no gap tree for old men (Noodle Vague), Monday, 13 November 2023 10:51 (one year ago) link

my bad, it was Spartacus Mills

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Pr8xnNi7OM

no gap tree for old men (Noodle Vague), Monday, 13 November 2023 10:53 (one year ago) link

Massive and Seismic?

Three people?

Mark G, Monday, 13 November 2023 11:05 (one year ago) link

salad of all the big beasts

mark s, Monday, 13 November 2023 11:21 (one year ago) link

big beast more like ROUGH BEAST (its hour come round at last)

https://i.imgur.com/uHFWMDL.jpg

mark s, Monday, 13 November 2023 11:34 (one year ago) link

Owen Jones
@OwenJones84
One thing I will say in David Cameron's favour is that, in 2010, he correctly described Gaza as a "prison camp".

He should be asked if he still believes this, because we won't win peace if we erase the historical context of the current horror.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 13 November 2023 11:50 (one year ago) link

OJ openly calling Ed Balls a sneering prick (paraphrase) cos of that shit podcast he has with George Osborne & this - man’s all out of fucks

mojo dojo casas house (gyac), Monday, 13 November 2023 12:10 (one year ago) link

Ed Balls best be careful who he’s calling ‘intellectually second-rate’.

steely flan (suzy), Monday, 13 November 2023 12:17 (one year ago) link

lmao the clip with Jones saying "so childish" to Balls as the camera is on gormless Streeting

nashwan, Monday, 13 November 2023 12:20 (one year ago) link

Ed Balls is a total pos but he’s not stupid

mojo dojo casas house (gyac), Monday, 13 November 2023 12:25 (one year ago) link

I haven't had a tv license for years so I am mystified by the media resurrection of charisma-vacuum Ed Balls. Do the public actually like him? And if so, why?

glumdalclitch, Monday, 13 November 2023 14:59 (one year ago) link

He has powerful friends, such as Gideon.

nashwan, Monday, 13 November 2023 15:10 (one year ago) link

brb reporting glumdalclitch to the authorities

Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Monday, 13 November 2023 15:10 (one year ago) link

my sister's a big Strictly fan and I don't think she gives a shit about him

no gap tree for old men (Noodle Vague), Monday, 13 November 2023 15:11 (one year ago) link

They like Matt Hancock so anything is possible.

The First Time Ever I Saw Gervais (Tom D.), Monday, 13 November 2023 15:12 (one year ago) link

xxp for the tv license or not liking ed balls? cos in Der Starmer's UK I guess both might be mandatory.
It's cool though I don't watch tv. I just illegally download

glumdalclitch, Monday, 13 November 2023 15:16 (one year ago) link

after Hancock's recent media forays Farage is being paid £1.5mil to go eat a kangaroo's balls in the jungle, they all know fine well what a bit of "charm and charisma" can do with the easily-led idiots in this country, c.f the guy on Big Brother who looks like a contender for the win saying he's a Tory because "he'd like to go for martinis with Boris"

boxedjoy, Monday, 13 November 2023 17:37 (one year ago) link

Really doubt the public likes Matt Hancock, think it's more that ppl in charge of programming think it'll get eyeballs.

Daniel_Rf, Monday, 13 November 2023 19:09 (one year ago) link

Minister for Common Sense ffs burn it all down

no gap tree for old men (Noodle Vague), Monday, 13 November 2023 19:12 (one year ago) link

(xp) He did rather well on "I'm A Celebrity".

The First Time Ever I Saw Gervais (Tom D.), Monday, 13 November 2023 19:21 (one year ago) link

Esther McVey in as "anti-woke" "commonsense tsar" ffs

blazin' squab (NickB), Monday, 13 November 2023 19:55 (one year ago) link

oh nv already alluded to that

blazin' squab (NickB), Monday, 13 November 2023 19:56 (one year ago) link

Hancock also did well on some Celeb SAS thing that Gareth Gates won recently

boxedjoy, Monday, 13 November 2023 21:09 (one year ago) link

this moment truly spoke for the nation though:

I really need the Covid Inquiry to call Hancock a “weasel-faced cunt”. pic.twitter.com/KDAjxJlRbT

— Mic Wright (@brokenbottleboy) October 31, 2023

blazin' squab (NickB), Monday, 13 November 2023 21:19 (one year ago) link

Channel 4's Cathy Newman reports that 17 Labour frontbenchers expect to be sacked on Wednesday for voting in favour of a Gaza ceasefire.

so I'd presume that would be only Lammy and Reeves of the frontbench who are backing Kieth's Pentagon subservience here, that's what he calls leadership.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 14 November 2023 10:03 (one year ago) link

finally a chance for Kieth to purge the hard left firebrands from his shadow cabinet

no gap tree for old men (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 14 November 2023 10:13 (one year ago) link

wish I were still able to wring some small joy from the latest sagas in the tory civil war

My letter to the Prime Minister pic.twitter.com/7OBzaZnxr2

— Suella Braverman MP (@SuellaBraverman) November 14, 2023

the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 14 November 2023 18:10 (one year ago) link

https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/876/233/4c9.jpg

mark s, Tuesday, 14 November 2023 18:19 (one year ago) link

my letter to the prime minister

https://i.imgur.com/FNOtu.jpg

come on barbo let’s go parpo (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 14 November 2023 18:20 (one year ago) link

just concerned that she's going to start a leadership challenge now and the desperate tories might actually pick her, it doesn't sound any more unlikely than a number of other things which have happened recently

the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 14 November 2023 18:23 (one year ago) link

I would really like her to do that

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 14 November 2023 19:17 (one year ago) link

Another 40 days. I'm down for it

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 14 November 2023 19:18 (one year ago) link

I would remind my honourable friend that this is main

Boris Yitsbin (wins), Tuesday, 14 November 2023 19:18 (one year ago) link

not much chance of 54 letters to Brady this time, alas.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 14 November 2023 21:09 (one year ago) link

there might not be 54 of them still planning to stand next time

Tyler Perry's Cystitis (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 14 November 2023 22:10 (one year ago) link

James Butler is as ever good on all of this, "repetition compulsion" sums things up well
https://www.lrb.co.uk/blog/2023/november/repetition-compulsion

Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Wednesday, 15 November 2023 10:13 (one year ago) link

She hasn't a hope in hell of being Tory leader... ever. She's completely blown whatever chance she might have had. While she's been ranting and raving and annoying 70% of the British public, Kemi Badenoch has been waiting in the wings, keeping shtum, to hoover up votes from the Tory right.

The First Time Ever I Saw Gervais (Tom D.), Wednesday, 15 November 2023 10:19 (one year ago) link

that would also be bad

the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 15 November 2023 10:20 (one year ago) link

(Rwanda plan deemed unlawful by the Supreme Court, by the way).

The First Time Ever I Saw Gervais (Tom D.), Wednesday, 15 November 2023 10:20 (one year ago) link

I don't want to describe it as hopeful, but it is at least funny that there's the Conservative Democratic Organisation, the New Conservatives, the Common Sense Group, the Conservative Growth Group all claiming to represent the Tory Right

Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 15 November 2023 11:01 (one year ago) link

🧵1/? MEGATHREAD: How landlord lobbying works.

It was Day 1 of the Renters Reform Bill Committee today in Parliament

One of the highlights was Shadow Housing Minister @mtpennycook throwing the words of one of the chief landlord lobbyists - Ben Beadle - back at him. pic.twitter.com/F6Rd2tjNt3

— Tom Darling (@a_darling_tom) November 14, 2023

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 15 November 2023 11:06 (one year ago) link

Rwanda policy would still be unlawful even if UK were not party to European convention on human rights, says supreme court

LOL

The First Time Ever I Saw Gervais (Tom D.), Wednesday, 15 November 2023 11:17 (one year ago) link

Get our underfunded armed forces to sort this mess out.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 15 November 2023 13:45 (one year ago) link

Sienna Rodgers
@siennamarla
·
3h
NEW: I hear the ceasefire amendment has 50+ Labour rebels – including more than a dozen frontbenchers

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 15 November 2023 16:44 (one year ago) link

if you've lost jess phillips then maybe you should take the hint kieth

Among expected resignations - names circulating incl. Jess Phillips and Kim Leadbeater https://t.co/sLPNUy6cUi

— Ava-Santina (@AvaSantina) November 15, 2023

the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 15 November 2023 16:58 (one year ago) link

The advisors are such weirdos I'd be amazed if this ends up as a free vote

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 15 November 2023 17:01 (one year ago) link

dont want to credit jess with taking a moral stand though - guessing her constituency being 20% muslim may be a factor

the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 15 November 2023 17:03 (one year ago) link

Yup, don't know whether that would affect her majority but it's purely transactional.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 15 November 2023 17:06 (one year ago) link

Keir’s constituency must have at least that many (if not more) Muslim voters.

steely flan (suzy), Wednesday, 15 November 2023 17:35 (one year ago) link

But you don’t have to be Muslim to find the leadership’s fudges to be appalling.

steely flan (suzy), Wednesday, 15 November 2023 17:36 (one year ago) link

sorry about the source, this is from the 2011 census anyway

https://www.conservativemuslimforum.org/can-we-help/resources/muslim-demographics-by-constituency/

the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 15 November 2023 17:39 (one year ago) link

Here are the results on SNP’s motion calling for an immediate ceasefire in Gaza.

125 ayes, 293 noes.
The defeat is to be expected, details on which Labour MPs defied Starmer will be coming soon.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 15 November 2023 19:35 (one year ago) link

At least three shadow mins have quit from The Guardian blog:

In the last few minutes, Afzal Khan has resigned as shadow minister for exports, Paula Barker has quit as shadow minister for devolution and the English regions, and Yasmin Qureshi has stepped down as shadow women and equalities minister.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 15 November 2023 19:37 (one year ago) link

Fleas deserting the flea circus

I don't want to catastrophise but there's a catastrophe looming (Matt #2), Wednesday, 15 November 2023 19:41 (one year ago) link

Jess Phillips resigned!

steely flan (suzy), Wednesday, 15 November 2023 19:46 (one year ago) link

Message to MPs:
We are watching. We will not forget.#CeasefireForGazaNOW pic.twitter.com/iLAM4PVr2x

— Chris Nineham (@ChrisNineham) November 15, 2023

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 15 November 2023 19:47 (one year ago) link

Mikey Walsh
@thatbloodyMikey
I actually cannot believe this.. Layla Moran shut down while speaking about family dying in Gaza, Lammy stands up, offers condolences, then goes on to urge people not to support a ceasefire.. Margaret Beckett interjects, & states she wont even use the word "Ceasefire". Monsters

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 15 November 2023 19:48 (one year ago) link

Assuming it’s this vote, the breakdown is here

https://votes.parliament.uk/votes/commons/division/1666

mojo dojo casas house (gyac), Wednesday, 15 November 2023 19:49 (one year ago) link

I already thought Lammy was a despicable arsehole, but he's finding new levels recently

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 15 November 2023 19:57 (one year ago) link

https://votes.parliament.uk/divisions/downloadcsv/1666?house=Commons

The list of those who voted against:

Ayes
==========
Diane Abbott (Independent - Hackney North and Stoke Newington)
Tahir Ali (Labour - Birmingham, Hall Green)
Rosena Allin-Khan (Labour - Tooting)
Hannah Bardell (Scottish National Party - Livingston)
Paula Barker (Labour - Liverpool, Wavertree)
Apsana Begum (Labour - Poplar and Limehouse)
Clive Betts (Labour - Sheffield South East)
Mhairi Black (Scottish National Party - Paisley and Renfrewshire South)
Paul Blomfield (Labour - Sheffield Central)
Steven Bonnar (Scottish National Party - Coatbridge, Chryston and Bellshill)
Deidre Brock (Scottish National Party - Edinburgh North and Leith)
Alan Brown (Scottish National Party - Kilmarnock and Loudoun)
Karen Buck (Labour - Westminster North)
Richard Burgon (Labour - Leeds East)
Dawn Butler (Labour - Brent Central)
Ian Byrne (Labour - Liverpool, West Derby)
Liam Byrne (Labour - Birmingham, Hodge Hill)
Amy Callaghan (Scottish National Party - East Dunbartonshire) (Proxy vote cast by Marion Fellows)
Dan Carden (Labour - Liverpool, Walton)
Alistair Carmichael (Liberal Democrat - Orkney and Shetland)
Wendy Chamberlain (Liberal Democrat - North East Fife)
Sarah Champion (Labour - Rotherham)
Douglas Chapman (Scottish National Party - Dunfermline and West Fife)
Joanna Cherry (Scottish National Party - Edinburgh South West)
Daisy Cooper (Liberal Democrat - St Albans)
Jeremy Corbyn (Independent - Islington North)
Ronnie Cowan (Scottish National Party - Inverclyde)
Angela Crawley (Scottish National Party - Lanark and Hamilton East)
Stella Creasy (Labour - Walthamstow)
Jon Cruddas (Labour - Dagenham and Rainham)
Judith Cummins (Labour - Bradford South)
Ed Davey (Liberal Democrat - Kingston and Surbiton)
Martyn Day (Scottish National Party - Linlithgow and East Falkirk)
Marsha De Cordova (Labour - Battersea)
Martin Docherty-Hughes (Scottish National Party - West Dunbartonshire)
Allan Dorans (Scottish National Party - Ayr, Carrick and Cumnock) (Proxy vote cast by Marion Fellows)
Peter Dowd (Labour - Bootle)
Sarah Dyke (Liberal Democrat - Somerton and Frome)
Colum Eastwood (Social Democratic & Labour Party - Foyle)
Jonathan Edwards (Independent - Carmarthen East and Dinefwr)
Julie Elliott (Labour - Sunderland Central)
Tim Farron (Liberal Democrat - Westmorland and Lonsdale)
Stephen Farry (Alliance - North Down)
Marion Fellows (Scottish National Party - Motherwell and Wishaw)
Stephen Flynn (Scottish National Party - Aberdeen South)
Richard Foord (Liberal Democrat - Tiverton and Honiton)
Mary Kelly Foy (Labour - City of Durham)
Barry Gardiner (Labour - Brent North)
Patricia Gibson (Scottish National Party - North Ayrshire and Arran)
Patrick Grady (Scottish National Party - Glasgow North)
Peter Grant (Scottish National Party - Glenrothes)
Sarah Green (Liberal Democrat - Chesham and Amersham)
Margaret Greenwood (Labour - Wirral West)
Fabian Hamilton (Labour - Leeds North East)
Claire Hanna (Social Democratic & Labour Party - Belfast South)
Neale Hanvey (Alba Party - Kirkcaldy and Cowdenbeath)
Drew Hendry (Scottish National Party - Inverness, Nairn, Badenoch and Strathspey)
Wera Hobhouse (Liberal Democrat - Bath)
Kate Hollern (Labour - Blackburn)
Rachel Hopkins (Labour - Luton South)
Stewart Hosie (Scottish National Party - Dundee East)
Rupa Huq (Labour - Ealing Central and Acton)
Imran Hussain (Labour - Bradford East)
Christine Jardine (Liberal Democrat - Edinburgh West)
Afzal Khan (Labour - Manchester, Gorton)
Ben Lake (Plaid Cymru - Ceredigion)
Ian Lavery (Labour - Wansbeck)
Chris Law (Scottish National Party - Dundee West)
Emma Lewell-Buck (Labour - South Shields)
Clive Lewis (Labour - Norwich South)
David Linden (Scottish National Party - Glasgow East)
Rebecca Long Bailey (Labour - Salford and Eccles)
Caroline Lucas (Green Party - Brighton, Pavilion)
Kenny MacAskill (Alba Party - East Lothian)
Angus Brendan MacNeil (Independent - Na h-Eileanan an Iar)
Khalid Mahmood (Labour - Birmingham, Perry Barr)
Rachael Maskell (Labour - York Central)
Andy McDonald (Independent - Middlesbrough)
Stewart Malcolm McDonald (Scottish National Party - Glasgow South)
Stuart C McDonald (Scottish National Party - Cumbernauld, Kilsyth and Kirkintilloch East)
John McDonnell (Labour - Hayes and Harlington)
Conor McGinn (Independent - St Helens North)
Anne McLaughlin (Scottish National Party - Glasgow North East)
John McNally (Scottish National Party - Falkirk)
Ian Mearns (Labour - Gateshead)
Carol Monaghan (Scottish National Party - Glasgow North West)
Layla Moran (Liberal Democrat - Oxford West and Abingdon)
Helen Morgan (Liberal Democrat - North Shropshire)
Grahame Morris (Labour - Easington)
John Nicolson (Scottish National Party - Ochil and South Perthshire) (Proxy vote cast by Marion Fellows)
Brendan O'Hara (Scottish National Party - Argyll and Bute)
Sarah Olney (Liberal Democrat - Richmond Park)
Kate Osamor (Labour - Edmonton)
Kate Osborne (Labour - Jarrow)
Kirsten Oswald (Scottish National Party - East Renfrewshire)
Sarah Owen (Labour - Luton North)
Jess Phillips (Labour - Birmingham, Yardley)
Anum Qaisar (Scottish National Party - Airdrie and Shotts)
Yasmin Qureshi (Labour - Bolton South East)
Bell Ribeiro-Addy (Labour - Streatham)
Lloyd Russell-Moyle (Labour - Brighton, Kemptown)
Liz Saville Roberts (Plaid Cymru - Dwyfor Meirionnydd)
Naz Shah (Labour - Bradford West)
Andy Slaughter (Labour - Hammersmith)
Alyn Smith (Scottish National Party - Stirling)
Cat Smith (Labour - Lancaster and Fleetwood)
Alex Sobel (Labour - Leeds North West)
Chris Stephens (Scottish National Party - Glasgow South West)
Jamie Stone (Liberal Democrat - Caithness, Sutherland and Easter Ross)
Zarah Sultana (Labour - Coventry South)
Sam Tarry (Labour - Ilford South)
Alison Thewliss (Scottish National Party - Glasgow Central)
Owen Thompson (Scottish National Party - Midlothian)
Richard Thomson (Scottish National Party - Gordon)
Stephen Timms (Labour - East Ham)
Jon Trickett (Labour - Hemsworth)
Valerie Vaz (Labour - Walsall South)
Claudia Webbe (Independent - Leicester East)
Philippa Whitford (Scottish National Party - Central Ayrshire) (Proxy vote cast by Marion Fellows)
Nadia Whittome (Labour - Nottingham East)
Hywel Williams (Plaid Cymru - Arfon)
Munira Wilson (Liberal Democrat - Twickenham)
Beth Winter (Labour - Cynon Valley)
Pete Wishart (Scottish National Party - Perth and North Perthshire)
Mohammad Yasin (Labour - Bedford)

56 Labour rebels on a 3 line whip.

mojo dojo casas house (gyac), Wednesday, 15 November 2023 19:58 (one year ago) link

heartbreaking.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F-_781dXYAAt-vx?format=jpg&name=large

mojo dojo casas house (gyac), Wednesday, 15 November 2023 19:59 (one year ago) link

Shower of cunts

xp rebels get the barest quantum of credit for this, like ok you are human congrats

Boris Yitsbin (wins), Wednesday, 15 November 2023 20:06 (one year ago) link

I see my MP (Helen Hayes) spoke for ceasefire and then never voted for it. Hilarious politicking.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 15 November 2023 20:13 (one year ago) link

23,582 = number of muslims in my mp john cryer’s constituency as of 2011

20,808 = his 2019 majority

have fun explaining your vote john

Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 15 November 2023 22:51 (one year ago) link

Fuck Starmer, fuck Dodds (my MP) and any one of these fucking useless cunts who didn't vote in favour of this. If an army enters a hospital and starts shooting people then they are committing a war crime, end of. I am voting Green at the next election, and next time I see Dodds at an Oxford City FC match I will have no hesitation in telling her that to her face. As Donald Sassoon put it, "Britain has a two party system but no opposition".

Grandpont Genie, Thursday, 16 November 2023 00:09 (one year ago) link

I really hope this fucks Labour at the next election, partly out of petty hatred, but also because I think it is genuinely dangerous for minorities and vulnerable people's continuing existence in the UK to have a centre-right duopoly with the trad conservative party housing lunatic fascist fringes. You can see how that style of democracy has worked so well in the US. I think some of the *quiet* Labour MP's who voted the correct way are still going to either lose their seats or have an uncomfortably diminished majority over this. It seems insane that taking a standard article II definition of genocide as correct and a very bad thing when it is occurring, is a hill that a Labour LOTO has decided to die on, but that is the brains trust behind Kieth.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 16 November 2023 05:40 (one year ago) link

so you want the Tories to get back in again, is that it?

lord of the rongs (anagram), Thursday, 16 November 2023 05:47 (one year ago) link

shut the fuck up, mr gamana|!

I meant disagreeing with the article II definition of genocide in prevaricating mealy-mouthed sound bites... but early morning brane

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 16 November 2023 05:50 (one year ago) link

fucking hell, I thought this thread was a safe space from *tory enabler* speak, but here we don't go!

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 16 November 2023 05:55 (one year ago) link

Anagram must be joking

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 16 November 2023 08:38 (one year ago) link

apologies, if they were joking

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 16 November 2023 08:45 (one year ago) link

some arguments in favour of the tories winning in 2024:

* incompetent evil is probably less effective than competent evil
* would possibly destroy the right wing of the labour party for a generation (though otoh 1992 would seem to disprove this)
* personal humiliation for kieth and his mates would be quite funny
* general nihilism and/or accelerationism if that's your bag

(to be clear I still hate them and want them out for a variety of reasons, but you have to look on the bright side sometimes)

the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 16 November 2023 09:14 (one year ago) link

I really hope to god Reeves isn't competent or the blob manages to undermine any of her more dangerous ideas, because personally speaking, to me she is Hitler and worries me more than the tory govt shambling on.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 16 November 2023 09:23 (one year ago) link

I was not joking. I'm a moderate Labour supporter who wants to see Starmer in No.10.

lord of the rongs (anagram), Thursday, 16 November 2023 09:25 (one year ago) link

Good luck to you, sir

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 16 November 2023 09:29 (one year ago) link

i am enjoying this bit

close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Thursday, 16 November 2023 09:34 (one year ago) link

xpost

I was not joking. I'm a moderate Labour supporter who wants to see Starmer in No.10.

anagram, I have friends and acquaintances who are, or were, contributors to this message board who take (or took) a similar line, and quite frankly, save yourself lots of hassle, accept that this is not the place for you.

contra the trope, I have found myself becoming significantly more left-wing as I have got older, so feel comfortable posting here, although most of the time I lurk and enjoy the commentary of people more eloquent and erudite than me.

Grandpont Genie, Thursday, 16 November 2023 09:35 (one year ago) link

Regret to inform that wanting Starmer in No.10 does indeed count as wanting the tories in.

Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 16 November 2023 09:35 (one year ago) link

Do you mean the whole of ILX is not for me, or just this thread? I've been posting here since 2009!

xp

lord of the rongs (anagram), Thursday, 16 November 2023 09:39 (one year ago) link

i am enjoying this bit

― close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Thursday, 16 November 2023 bookmarkflaglink

Gotta enjoy something, you only have one life.

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 16 November 2023 09:40 (one year ago) link

I was not joking. I'm a moderate Labour supporter who wants to see Starmer in No.10.


Good for you. I’m sure there’s plenty of people out there who still perceive a policy differential between the two. I’m not one of them.

mojo dojo casas house (gyac), Thursday, 16 November 2023 09:41 (one year ago) link

anagram, I have friends and acquaintances who are, or were, contributors to this message board who take (or took) a similar line, and quite frankly, save yourself lots of hassle, accept that this is not the place for you.


No (real) idea who this refers to, how sad for them, not feeling comfortable with their “better things aren’t possible” outlook, I’m sure their Guardian/NS readers feel the same.

mojo dojo casas house (gyac), Thursday, 16 November 2023 09:42 (one year ago) link

i should clarify

i also thought anagram was being funny

i am not now enjoying their bit

close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Thursday, 16 November 2023 09:46 (one year ago) link

it still might be a bit

the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 16 November 2023 09:48 (one year ago) link

maybe we have to rearrange the letters from his post to get it

the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 16 November 2023 09:49 (one year ago) link

Did poster anagram have anything to say about the racism of the Labour Party towards Muslims or did I miss it?

mojo dojo casas house (gyac), Thursday, 16 November 2023 09:54 (one year ago) link

Btw - as someone who has served THREE temp bans FROM THE ENTIRE BOARD FOR A WEEK - Starmer supporters can post here, in the sense that no one can thread ban you for it. There may just be push back on any contortions you make the day after many Lab MPs chose to abstain on a Gaza ceasefire motion.

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 16 November 2023 09:57 (one year ago) link

I am so fucked off about the media framing discussions about Gaza as an argument between Muslims and Jews. All the Labour MPs shown advocating for ceasefire on the BBC news last night were Muslim; other ceasefire advocates are available!

steely flan (suzy), Thursday, 16 November 2023 09:59 (one year ago) link

There's different outliers (Labour doesn't have a Suella Braverman, the Tories don't have a Diane Abbott) but the two parties are largely overlapping bell curves.

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 16 November 2023 10:08 (one year ago) link

I am a moderate right wing authoritarian and I hope to see Kieth Starmer in number 10

Tyler Perry's Cystitis (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 16 November 2023 10:08 (one year ago) link

tbh I'm totally shocked that REDACTED doesn't give a fuck about REDACTED

Tyler Perry's Cystitis (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 16 November 2023 10:10 (one year ago) link

I think we can all agree that James Cleverly trying to convince people he didn't say something and, in the course of the denial, convincing everyone he did, is pretty amusing.

https://x.com/BBCBreakfast/status/1725062267752919254?t=iFWhqCrBijLWn3QzZmFuPw&s=19

The First Time Ever I Saw Gervais (Tom D.), Thursday, 16 November 2023 10:17 (one year ago) link

I am a bastion of respectability politics and nothing gets my vote like a white man in a suit making a load of sad noises about how he’d love to vote against war BUT

mojo dojo casas house (gyac), Thursday, 16 November 2023 10:20 (one year ago) link

i know a few labour-moderate soi-disant-centre-left types who don't like starmer one bit but are willing to bite the bullet. speaking for myself, much as i violently despise the tories i really don't want to vote for labour either. one problem is that there are vast acres of space between the odious starmerite position and full tankie, a huge segment of the political spectrum which is essentially homeless rn, arguably save for the greens but they're as usual refusing to jump on the wide-open opportunity to make some ground. it's a pleasing fantasy to imagine the labour left defecting greenwards (well, for me at least, i know there are a few green haters itt, hello there) but also on the cusp of labour almost definitely winning an election by a long way, for many of these mps political expedience will trump principle, they are uk politicians after all. it's a shame layla moran (whose voting record is to the left of almost every current labour mp) didn't become lib dem leader or i'd be rather annoyingly rooting for them rn. on second thoughts maybe it's a good thing

imago, Thursday, 16 November 2023 10:30 (one year ago) link

"biting the bullet" = voting for genocide enablers, transphobes, friends of business

Tyler Perry's Cystitis (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 16 November 2023 10:32 (one year ago) link

well yeah, this is why i don't want to vote for them, but a lot of decent if underinformed (or purblind) people are able to let that become background noise

imago, Thursday, 16 November 2023 10:34 (one year ago) link

if it's background noise then you're not decent, sorry i don't make the rules

Tyler Perry's Cystitis (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 16 November 2023 10:35 (one year ago) link

full tankie


Please be fucking serious.

mojo dojo casas house (gyac), Thursday, 16 November 2023 10:41 (one year ago) link

Morons on ilx learning and misusing the intraleft insult tankie 😑 will we ever be free

mojo dojo casas house (gyac), Thursday, 16 November 2023 10:42 (one year ago) link

at this point I'm kinda disappointed Abbott hasn't been expelled from the party so I could vote for her without giving labour a vote

a huge segment of the political spectrum which is essentially homeless rn

tapping the "this is a horrible metaphor when there is a growing segment of the population that is actually homeless" sign

Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 16 November 2023 10:44 (one year ago) link

god it's good to be back :D

imago, Thursday, 16 November 2023 10:46 (one year ago) link

but yeah, point taken daniel, make that 'politically unrepresented'

imago, Thursday, 16 November 2023 10:48 (one year ago) link

and amend the jocular 'full tankie' to the fucking serious 'hard communism' idk

imago, Thursday, 16 November 2023 10:50 (one year ago) link

can almost hear alphie concocting some withering post rn

imago, Thursday, 16 November 2023 10:50 (one year ago) link

full tankies have traditionally tended to kill hard communists but sure

Left, Thursday, 16 November 2023 10:52 (one year ago) link

my actual you'd have thought uncontroversial point being that most of the political spectrum exists left of starmer's labour, so it's surprising that no major or even semi-major party (yes party politics is bad and hated yes) is making moves to claim any position substantially within that space

imago, Thursday, 16 November 2023 10:53 (one year ago) link

it's almost as if the major political parties are undemocratic cliques run for the benefit of a few MPs and patronage-seekers

Tyler Perry's Cystitis (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 16 November 2023 10:55 (one year ago) link

it's almost like the UK is an oligarchy and not a true democracy hmmm.jpg

Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Thursday, 16 November 2023 10:55 (one year ago) link

xp haha

Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Thursday, 16 November 2023 10:56 (one year ago) link

lol snap

Tyler Perry's Cystitis (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 16 November 2023 10:56 (one year ago) link

with the accompanying speculation that present events are surely providing as much of a breaking-point as could feasibly exist, so if not now etc

who ARE the greens run for, is something that as a green member for the past decade I've not been able to work out tbf

imago, Thursday, 16 November 2023 10:57 (one year ago) link

anagram look at what you've done

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 16 November 2023 10:59 (one year ago) link

the merest whiff of an opportunity to triangulate lol

imago, Thursday, 16 November 2023 11:01 (one year ago) link

imago thought you were going to go full XR and spend time posting from jail?

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 16 November 2023 11:01 (one year ago) link

i'm more useful on the outside, got some big plans

imago, Thursday, 16 November 2023 11:03 (one year ago) link

I had a greens sign in my garden last council elections, partially because my neighbour was standing for them (and won!) and he's a decent person, but mostly because the labour party (who I had quit YEARS before, and asked many times to stop emailing me) sent out a bulk email saying "send us photos of the signs in your front gardens!" and sending them a photo of it finally (& suddenly) managed to get me removed from all of their mailing lists.

the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 16 November 2023 11:08 (one year ago) link

Sad thing about all of this is that by the time of the election people (bar Muslims, which is why Jess Phillips had to vote against) will have long forgotten as you think there will be a ceasefire. That's ofc good, but people shouldn't forget how these scum vote at this time.

The reality is the people who will "bite the bullet" don't care about any of this. They will always perform their politics and "bite the bullet". At least Tories are capitalist racists, no pretence to "labour-moderate soi-disant-centre-left" word salad.

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 16 November 2023 11:24 (one year ago) link

The "labour-moderate soi-disant-centre-left" like my MP will talk and 'debate' progressive wordings and then vote for racism no problem. Its even worse than an EDL supporter because they lied to people to get there and put in that vote.

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 16 November 2023 11:31 (one year ago) link

The "labour-moderate soi-disant-centre-left"

I'd just like a white coffee please mate

The narrative of arthur gordon pimp of nantucket (Bananaman Begins), Thursday, 16 November 2023 11:41 (one year ago) link

No way I could vote for the Greens, their longtime local candidate is married to the incompetent freeloader who is CEO where I work.

The First Time Ever I Saw Gervais (Tom D.), Thursday, 16 November 2023 11:50 (one year ago) link

... who got a knighthood from Boris.

The First Time Ever I Saw Gervais (Tom D.), Thursday, 16 November 2023 11:51 (one year ago) link

Tbf Tom iirc you have an easy non-Labour option.

Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 16 November 2023 11:57 (one year ago) link

I can't deny it.

The First Time Ever I Saw Gervais (Tom D.), Thursday, 16 November 2023 11:59 (one year ago) link

Tom D. and I are vastly different people, 'tis true, the only time I ever remember being in the same room as him I was far too scared to speak with him, but I find it hard to imagine ever using this criterion to determine where to plant my 'X' at the ballot box. You can't choose who you fall in love with. Once Cupid fires his little arrow, ain't a thing you can do about it!

Grandpont Genie, Thursday, 16 November 2023 15:47 (one year ago) link

I don't think love is just a power that randomly matches you to a person without values or worldview playing any part in it

more importantly though, spite towards your boss should absolutely take precedence over electoral concerns

Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 16 November 2023 16:19 (one year ago) link

btw I have talked to Tom D on several occasions and lived to tell the tale

Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 16 November 2023 16:20 (one year ago) link

that's what you think. we are all actually ghosts

Colonel Poo, Thursday, 16 November 2023 16:21 (one year ago) link

Kieth is pro ghost-creation tbf

Tyler Perry's Cystitis (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 16 November 2023 16:22 (one year ago) link

the state of that Kim Leadbeater video. Basically: "I support a ceasefire but am going to abstain because I don't want to vote with the SNP". She's extremely dumb and will deservedly lose her seat next year.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 16 November 2023 17:11 (one year ago) link

Can confirm Tom D is a darling

mojo dojo casas house (gyac), Thursday, 16 November 2023 17:11 (one year ago) link

I don't think love is just a power that randomly matches you to a person without values or worldview playing any part in it
Interesting. I *do* think that; maybe I am just some sort of hopeless romantic.

Iirc the occasion that I was in the same room as Tom D. was 'ILX Has a Festival' at the Windmill in Brixton in 2007/8. He looked a mean f*cker who was going to kick my effing head in, but fair play, gyac, books/covers &c.

Grandpont Genie, Thursday, 16 November 2023 18:19 (one year ago) link

Well I think love demands kindness, empathy, understanding and other qualities that can't actually be neatly divorced from a person's worldview.

"Would smash" can be divorced from it, I'll give you that.

Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 16 November 2023 18:57 (one year ago) link

Daniel, don’t you know any Labour-wife Tory-husband (and vice versa) couples? I sure do.

Ward Fowler, Thursday, 16 November 2023 19:02 (one year ago) link

I don't no, but there's surely a huge gap between "sometimes members of the two most mainstream political parties in the UK fall in love" and "falling in love is totally random and unrelated to one's values entirely"?

Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 16 November 2023 19:06 (one year ago) link

irrational but not random

the couple of labour/tory marriages I've known have been a nightmare and any pretence of keeping politics and personal life separate went out the window whenever there was a fight

maybe some people make it work but it's hard to imagine their values are particularly divergent in such cases

Left, Thursday, 16 November 2023 19:22 (one year ago) link

My in laws are complete political opposites. I myself couldn’t do it.

mojo dojo casas house (gyac), Thursday, 16 November 2023 19:23 (one year ago) link

Multiple Xps!!!

This is all tricky. My missus & I met in an Oxford nightclub after being abandoned by our respective friends & being wallflowers on the edge of the dancefloor thinking "wtf do I do now?", got talking/dancing/snogging, so went from the "smash that" scenario Daniel describes to being husband & wife 3.5 years later. Political compatibility? Who the f*ck knows; her formilative years were spent in martial-law era Gdansk, mine in Thatcherite London, so she has a knee-jerk dislike of anything "tankie" and considers a lot of UK socialists to be somewhat naive. She is a Tusk supporter as are most of her (huge) family; she hates Jarosław Kaczyński and queued up around the block to vote the arsehole out at an Oxford community centre co-opted as a temporary Polish polling station Ridiculously early on a Sunday morning!

Grandpont Genie, Thursday, 16 November 2023 19:24 (one year ago) link

Well yeah ppl are infinitely diverse in their political leanings and how they navigate same! I don't think that then leads to a situation where these leanings are entirely irrelevant to a relationship.

To give an extreme example, as a foreigner who moved to the UK I'd probably not have a very successful relationship with an EDL supporter.

Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 16 November 2023 19:29 (one year ago) link

i do wonder how much genuine ideological difference two people could sustain and still love each other

Tyler Perry's Cystitis (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 16 November 2023 19:32 (one year ago) link

interesting GG, I'm from a socialist Catholic family background, but there isn't really the same vocab to describe my wife's politics, she is from China and straight up despises the CCP and everything they do, however she has also found that the other anti-CCP Chinese are either right-wing Trump lovers or members of (essentially) cults or (even worse) both of those things, whereas she is very strongly anti-capitalist and completely incapable of taking organised religion seriously.
It's probably not a coincidence that I agree with her on all of this, either we have converged or it was fate. The one place we don't really meet is intersectionality, but we're working it out.

the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 16 November 2023 19:42 (one year ago) link

these kinds of thing (different political priors reflecting very different backgrounds) is much more understandable to me (and my family) than when it's people from pretty much the same background who have opposite takes on the issues that affect them

(I'm thinking especially of an older couple I used to know quite well - both dead now- he thought toryism was their way out of the working class while she thought it was a betrayal of her and her family - which he somehow turned into a betrayal of him and the one reason they didn't have more money - it managed to work its way into every little disagreement they had - that's probably a fairly common scenario esp for a certain generation but maybe some are better at just ignoring it - I really appreciated her tenacity and came to dislike him more over time)

Left, Thursday, 16 November 2023 19:50 (one year ago) link

this makes me think of an uncle of mine who was a bit of a freewheeling womaniser type who was sort of a musician who lived in squats and busked for beer money outside tube stations. He was in a long term relationship with a woman who was apparently heavily politicised and a member of the CPoB. She used to mock him for being politically incoherent and basically just repeating hackneyed variations of "they're all corrupt arseholes". By the early 80's they had split up and she was loudly advocating and voting for Thatcher and had become conservative in every sense of the word. He became slightly more politically coherent, by this point he'd been homeless a few times and was living in a rougharse tenement block in Kings Cross that's probably posh flats now. They were never going to last as a couple, even though both of them didn't really find their true political bearings until after they'd split.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 16 November 2023 20:50 (one year ago) link

"I don't think love is just a power that randomly matches you to a person without values or worldview playing any part in it"

Also if you become radicalised to a worldview that can destroy a relationship that might have been perfectly fine at the start. Most publicly seen that with Glinner recently.

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 16 November 2023 22:38 (one year ago) link

Anagram never did bother explaining what about the current Labour Party draws his support huh

mojo dojo casas house (gyac), Thursday, 16 November 2023 22:52 (one year ago) link

Daniel, don’t you know any Labour-wife Tory-husband (and vice versa) couples? I sure do.

People know Tories?

The First Time Ever I Saw Gervais (Tom D.), Thursday, 16 November 2023 23:27 (one year ago) link

xp

to repeat what they posted: I want to see Sir Kier Starmer in no. 10 because I'm a moderate Labour Party supporter the type of uncritical low information voter that believes in vibes rather than policies.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 17 November 2023 05:29 (one year ago) link

How Kier Starmer could win a vibe check with anything but a three day old crusty grey dog turd, I’ll never know

sell cigs to kids (a hoy hoy), Friday, 17 November 2023 06:28 (one year ago) link

my actual you'd have thought uncontroversial point being that most of the political spectrum exists left of starmer's labour, so it's surprising that no major or even semi-major party (yes party politics is bad and hated yes) is making moves to claim any position substantially within that space

i am kinda impressed that the lib dems are so useless they've been completely unable to capitalise on the tory collapse + starmer not even pretending to have any sort of positive vision

ufo, Friday, 17 November 2023 07:04 (one year ago) link

after throwing it all on reversing the outcome of a referendum and getting skinned, they are scared of doing any bold policies now. Just keep a low profile and mop up the odd Tory byelection seat, lol, and skills wallets.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 17 November 2023 07:28 (one year ago) link

According to the Guardian, it seems like some of the ceasefire advocates in Labour held back voting for the SNP amendment so they could have the rolling resignations option still in the tank. Which is sauce for the goose for anyone who remembers summer 2016.

steely flan (suzy), Friday, 17 November 2023 08:19 (one year ago) link

tbh I find that very hard to believe, and it's pretty clear a lot of Labour MPs will say literally anything to try to appeal to both sides

Tyler Perry's Cystitis (Noodle Vague), Friday, 17 November 2023 08:22 (one year ago) link

I'd be happy to be proved wrong tho, they can start the resignations as soon as they're ready

Tyler Perry's Cystitis (Noodle Vague), Friday, 17 November 2023 08:23 (one year ago) link

Also to Calz, those tenement blocks in King’s Cross you mention are still run by a housing association. They were affiliated with the Clerkenwell tenement block where I used to live, which is now council-run.

steely flan (suzy), Friday, 17 November 2023 08:27 (one year ago) link

were those the ones you could see when leaving st pancras by train that had "120 people live here" painted on the side in huge letters?

(probably more than 120)

koogs, Friday, 17 November 2023 09:16 (one year ago) link

xp

blimey!

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 17 November 2023 09:18 (one year ago) link

No, the ones I’m thinking of were all on Cromer Street by McGlynn’s and The Boot. Also Derby Lodge on Britannia Street, just south of the station. There’s a fab documentary where Kenneth Williams tours the area in the 1970s because he was brought up there. The short life/ex-squat flats north of Euston Road were in Battle Bridge Road and Stanley Buildings (which I think was the one with ‘120 people live here’ because it’s on St Pancras Way.

steely flan (suzy), Friday, 17 November 2023 10:09 (one year ago) link

i do wonder how much genuine ideological difference two people could sustain and still love each other

Well first you'd need genuine ideological views, which I think most people don't?

Andrew Farrell, Friday, 17 November 2023 10:17 (one year ago) link

kinda what i was getting at Andrew, i'm sure there's plenty of "Tory"/"Labour" couples who don't really disagree about much at all

Tyler Perry's Cystitis (Noodle Vague), Friday, 17 November 2023 10:19 (one year ago) link

i'm about the furthest thing from a model for relationship advice but i cannot imagine sustaining love for somebody espousing the casual cruelty at the core of a lot of those parties' politics

Tyler Perry's Cystitis (Noodle Vague), Friday, 17 November 2023 10:23 (one year ago) link

Yeah, not disagreeing, sorry!

Suzy - is that Battle Bridge Place? I'm only roused to pedantry because I'm familiar with Battle Bridge Lane, which I know from being near another big station-adjacent regeneration by London Bridge.

Andrew Farrell, Friday, 17 November 2023 10:26 (one year ago) link

i'm sure there's plenty of "Tory"/"Labour" couples who don't really disagree about much at all

I used to have a morbid fascination with Guardian columnbot Lucy Mangan, who got much mileage and column inches from fake exasperated stories of her Toryboy partner. Turned out her husband was former Director of Vote Leave and former DUP Chief of Staff, national conservative ghoul Chris Montgomery.

Piedie Gimbel, Friday, 17 November 2023 11:07 (one year ago) link

"Our relationship has never been built on raw physical attraction, but on a kind of sick, intellectual curiosity and an emotional masochism on both our parts that neither of us had hitherto suspected. Your expanding girth will hardly change that."

xyzzzz__, Friday, 17 November 2023 11:17 (one year ago) link

👀

mark s, Friday, 17 November 2023 11:23 (one year ago) link

Lucy Mangan is a terf.

steely flan (suzy), Friday, 17 November 2023 11:34 (one year ago) link

bizarre that she is paid actual money to write that shit

the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 17 November 2023 11:48 (one year ago) link

and confirms my suspicion that any non-tory in a relationship with a tory is at the very least tory-curious

the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 17 November 2023 11:50 (one year ago) link

Polly Filla-style columnists are generally selected by editors who get fixated on some aspect of their personal life and/or social position, not for merit.

steely flan (suzy), Friday, 17 November 2023 11:50 (one year ago) link

Apsana Begum MP
@ApsanaBegumMP
Seeing the footage of Tower Hamlets students striking for Palestine this week, reminds of when I joined protests as a teenager, to oppose the Iraq war.

I am SO proud of our vibrant young people — who are boldly demonstrating moral compass and leadership

xyzzzz__, Friday, 17 November 2023 13:14 (one year ago) link

I WLTM a cis couple where the man is the lefty.

nashwan, Friday, 17 November 2023 15:24 (one year ago) link

Harman and Sheerman complaining that these voters/future voters are getting a bit uppity, what with thinking their representatives represent them, grassed them to the police, and this is the upshot:

Police say “no offences were committted” at the protest outside Tower Hamlets Labour on Cambridge Heath Rd. No threats or intimidation reported in the article @HarrietHarman links to. https://t.co/ql3HUgwInJ pic.twitter.com/Qb3M5TFYBF

— Sarah_Woolley (@Sarah_Woolley) November 17, 2023

glumdalclitch, Friday, 17 November 2023 16:10 (one year ago) link

Harman and Sheerman complaining that these voters/future voters are getting a bit uppity, what with thinking their representatives represent them, grassed them to the police, and this is the upshot:

Police say “no offences were committted” at the protest outside Tower Hamlets Labour on Cambridge Heath Rd. No threats or intimidation reported in the article @HarrietHarman links to. https://t.co/ql3HUgwInJ pic.twitter.com/Qb3M5TFYBF

— Sarah_Woolley (@Sarah_Woolley) November 17, 2023

glumdalclitch, Friday, 17 November 2023 16:10 (one year ago) link

No clue why that posted twice, apologies.

glumdalclitch, Friday, 17 November 2023 16:11 (one year ago) link

i'm reporting the double post as a hate crime

Tyler Perry's Cystitis (Noodle Vague), Friday, 17 November 2023 16:16 (one year ago) link

greentick.jpeg

glumdalclitch, Friday, 17 November 2023 16:24 (one year ago) link

so embarrassing for a party to be this thirsty for cop shit and the cops won't even play with them

Left, Friday, 17 November 2023 16:54 (one year ago) link

cis couple where the man is the lefty

I've known a few straight couples where the man is "the lefty" in the sense of using leftist theory and rhetoric as a form of intellectual domination against their partner and/or others in their lives - fuck those guys

Left, Friday, 17 November 2023 17:00 (one year ago) link

I WLTM a cis couple where the man is the lefty.


My in laws. Only one of them votes and it’s not him.

mojo dojo casas house (gyac), Friday, 17 November 2023 17:14 (one year ago) link

Their son probably considers himself the lefty in our marriage.

mojo dojo casas house (gyac), Friday, 17 November 2023 17:15 (one year ago) link

another Kieth whose lefty pretensions swiftly dissolve into authoritarian violence

Tyler Perry's Cystitis (Noodle Vague), Friday, 17 November 2023 18:30 (one year ago) link

Corbyn agreeing for some reason to be interviewed by Piers Morgan so Starmer can use it as the new excuse to keep him out of Labour. But leaving aside Jeremy's judgement it also highlights how stupid Starmer seems for apparently not wanting/having a conversation with Corbyn so he can find out directly what he thinks about anything.

nashwan, Friday, 17 November 2023 20:45 (one year ago) link

How is whether the couples oncerned are cis or trans relevant to this discussion? Seems a strange qualifier.

Grandpont Genie, Friday, 17 November 2023 23:28 (one year ago) link

I think it's not unreasonable to assume trans men are less likely to be right wing than cis men, since vast swathes of the right wouldn't view them as men anyway.

Daniel_Rf, Saturday, 18 November 2023 09:58 (one year ago) link

I WLTM a cis couple where the man is the lefty.

― nashwan, Friday, 17 November 2023 15:24 (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

me for 7 months in 2008. also CAAL otm lol, my partner does enjoy calling me Keith whenever i get a bit 'let's do this'

imago, Saturday, 18 November 2023 10:23 (one year ago) link

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2023/nov/17/elon-musk-antisemitic-tweet-apple-pausing-ads

Maybe I've missed the uproar about the British Prime Minister and his recent fawning arselicking interview with a known antisemite?

The First Time Ever I Saw Gervais (Tom D.), Saturday, 18 November 2023 10:33 (one year ago) link

Xp not unreasonable to assume trans men are less likely to be right wing than cis men, since vast swathes of the right wouldn't view them as men anyway.
Certainly not unreasonable to suppose that, Daniel, but it still doesn't necessarily reflect reality, not least because people's politics doesn't always undergo a sea change when they come out/transition

Grandpont Genie, Saturday, 18 November 2023 10:38 (one year ago) link

Well sure gg but the op's gambit wasn't "trans men (or trans women or cis women) are never right wing", it was "I've never seen a cis couple where the woman is the right wing one", and that just doesn't translate in couples where one or more ppl are trans.

Daniel_Rf, Saturday, 18 November 2023 10:41 (one year ago) link

Now I come to think of it I did once finish a relationship where I learnt over the course of it that she was more RW than me. Wasn't the only or core reason I ended it tho.

Regarding Sunak hob-nobbing with Musk: can totally see why he'd feel it advantageous/necessary speshly w.r.t. the dire straits his party are in. Still think the worst people are those who *don't* pull their ads from the socials when their head honcho spout toxic inflammatory white, eithe5 coz of an economic calculation or coz they either agree or couldn't care less.

Grandpont Genie, Saturday, 18 November 2023 10:47 (one year ago) link

xxxp

Jeremy Cunt was cheerfully enthusing about a chat he had with the known antisemite yesterday as well. I'll be awaiting the Jewish Chronicle commentary about the Tory antisemitism problem with baited breath.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 18 November 2023 10:49 (one year ago) link

Musk has banned the "from the river" chant on twitter so officially not an anti-semite for Sunak's purposes.

Daniel_Rf, Saturday, 18 November 2023 10:55 (one year ago) link

Whose use of it has he banned?

steely flan (suzy), Saturday, 18 November 2023 13:02 (one year ago) link

It's trending right now - is it another "He's said loudly that he'll do this but he'll never get around to it"?

Andrew Farrell, Saturday, 18 November 2023 16:33 (one year ago) link

Tories continuing their war on people with disabilities:

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/nov/21/disabled-people-work-from-home-laura-trott-benefits

blazin' squab (NickB), Tuesday, 21 November 2023 12:31 (one year ago) link

according to the prime minister, not doing some meaningless bullshit job to make money for someone else is "an enormous waste of human potential"

blazin' squab (NickB), Tuesday, 21 November 2023 12:38 (one year ago) link

A good thread on what will help. Sadly, for this government, it requires a lot of investment in the country.

Can't sleep so here's a thread about what *actually* would help with getting the long term unemployed, or sick and disabled back into work.

As you read this remember, any or all of these only help *some* of us. Many aren't able to work under *any* circumstances...

— Louisa Britain (@RoadsideMum) November 19, 2023

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 21 November 2023 13:32 (one year ago) link

https://members-api.parliament.uk/api/Members/4780/Portrait?cropType=ThreeFour&webVersion=false

she's sure got a strong aura of warmth and compassion about her has Laura Trott. She wouldn't lose a minute's sleep over a wheelchair bound ESA claimant ending up dead in a cold house after their money is stopped because Pathways into Death is also a Labour policy.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 21 November 2023 13:34 (one year ago) link

I'm just remembering Trott is the one who couldn't conceal her visceral hatred of Dawn Butler on the bbc one time. God knows what problem she had with a prominent black woman appearing on a bbc panel.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 21 November 2023 13:48 (one year ago) link

Glad you shared that xyzzy, the real scandal is of course the number of disabled people who really want to work but are excluded because bullshit and the government have proposed precisely nothing to address that

Tyler Perry's Cystitis (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 21 November 2023 14:10 (one year ago) link

those cold dead eyes really follow you round the room

come on barbo let’s go parpo (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 21 November 2023 14:58 (one year ago) link

To Thatch a Keith

Ward Fowler, Tuesday, 21 November 2023 16:13 (one year ago) link

*applause*

Tyler Perry's Cystitis (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 21 November 2023 16:15 (one year ago) link

Did Rachel Reeves just coin a new word in her response to Hunt's autumn statement in the Conmons? Pretty sure I just heard her say "taxcreases".

Grandpont Genie, Wednesday, 22 November 2023 18:38 (one year ago) link

in the age of securonomics anything is possible

Tyler Perry's Cystitis (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 22 November 2023 18:39 (one year ago) link

ah shite, I'm not hard working or a family, and I'm not doing everything right, lol in fact I've barely lifted a finger in 10 years - that's me shut out of securobollox!

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 22 November 2023 19:12 (one year ago) link

Rachel Reeves is very talented

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 22 November 2023 19:14 (one year ago) link

I am convinced the right wing of the Labour Party use ‘talented’ to mean ‘Tory in a cheap disguise’.

steely flan (suzy), Wednesday, 22 November 2023 19:37 (one year ago) link

I can remember Stephen Bush gushing about her *talent* during the dying days of Corbyn. Also he came out as a sad Cameron groupie when he put that dire self apologia book out.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 22 November 2023 20:07 (one year ago) link

Nobody's talking about Cleverly calling Stockton a shithole in parliament then?

I asked the Prime Minister why 34% of children in Stockton North are living in poverty.  The Home Secretary James Cleverly can apparently be heard saying it is a "sh**hole".

This comment shames the Home Secretary, the Government and his party and he should apologise. pic.twitter.com/hgmCLBdqCx

— Alex Cunningham MP (@ACunninghamMP) November 22, 2023

the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 23 November 2023 17:03 (one year ago) link

call a shithole a shithole and shame the devil I say. I say this as someone who lives in a shithole myself!

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 23 November 2023 17:13 (one year ago) link

He's claiming what he actually said was Alex Cunningham is a shit MP.

The First Time Ever I Saw Gervais (Tom D.), Thursday, 23 November 2023 19:20 (one year ago) link

... he definitely does NOT say that btw.

The First Time Ever I Saw Gervais (Tom D.), Thursday, 23 November 2023 19:22 (one year ago) link

yeah, and it took him and his PR team 24 hours to come up with that hopeful get out clause.

mark e, Thursday, 23 November 2023 19:37 (one year ago) link

Funnily enough I was talking to someone about Stockton at the weekend, he was saying it's got about four fairly decent music venues.

The First Time Ever I Saw Gervais (Tom D.), Thursday, 23 November 2023 19:41 (one year ago) link

The Georgian Stockton Theatre is a great venue. Saw a smoking hot gig by The Comet is Coming in 2019 and The Mountain Goats back in early 2000s.

Dan Worsley, Thursday, 23 November 2023 19:48 (one year ago) link

it's always easy for garbage Labour MP's to get all sanctimonious about some of the more colourful language Tories use about shithole Towns. But when they were in power they did fuck all for these regions that Thatcher annihilated and are still offering them nothing.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 23 November 2023 20:05 (one year ago) link

yeah, the feigned outrage is pathetic. if Tory voters don't know what the party thinks of them by now then i think you can safely leave them to it

Tyler Perry's Cystitis (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 23 November 2023 21:23 (one year ago) link

Know what else has been shockingly high? Excess deaths from illness, post-Brexit staff shortages, international student tuition fees...

Geert Starmer. pic.twitter.com/ga90Yg8Rjs

— Perry PoMo (@paulewart23) November 24, 2023

nashwan, Friday, 24 November 2023 09:46 (one year ago) link

really interesting that Kieth and his team are doubling down on the same rhetoric that's driving electoral victory for fascists across Europe. it must be grown-up politics or something

Tyler Perry's Cystitis (Noodle Vague), Friday, 24 November 2023 09:55 (one year ago) link

Stupid man.

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John Burn-Murdoch
@jburnmurdoch
The British left: the NHS is under immense pressure please someone help

The NHS: okay we’re adopting new technology that doctors have been calling for for years which will make their jobs easier and improve patient outcomes

The British left: no not like that

xyzzzz__, Friday, 24 November 2023 10:19 (one year ago) link

I usually find "gaffe churn" a bit tedious even about Tories I hate, but the Sunak hammer video is actually jaw dropping, isn't it?. The woman with him is surely saying "oh come on".

glumdalclitch, Friday, 24 November 2023 18:12 (one year ago) link

You're going to have to explain that entire sentence to me.

How old Cary Grant? (Tom D.), Friday, 24 November 2023 18:17 (one year ago) link

Hope you can see twitter

https://x.com/DachshundColin/status/1728046746138222681?t=VVVoT6Tg3gRiSmPF15R5-w&s=08

glumdalclitch, Friday, 24 November 2023 18:19 (one year ago) link

I can but the original tweet has been deleted.

How old Cary Grant? (Tom D.), Friday, 24 November 2023 18:22 (one year ago) link

🚨 BREAKING: The full clip has now been released showing the worker explicitly telling Rishi Sunak to use the side of the hammer pic.twitter.com/rlteuMQMzN https://t.co/uY7QlvOjYp

— Politics UK (@PolitlcsUK) November 24, 2023

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 24 November 2023 18:23 (one year ago) link

yeah lol i just saw. well it was a funny few hours

glumdalclitch, Friday, 24 November 2023 18:24 (one year ago) link

I'm just trying to imagine this imbecile trying to survive in the real world

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 24 November 2023 18:28 (one year ago) link

still, I've seen fresh out of school kids use a hammer with more conviction.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 24 November 2023 18:30 (one year ago) link

"stop trying to tickle the nail, lad!"

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 24 November 2023 18:32 (one year ago) link

All 'PM visits a workplace and tries to do some of the work' charades are contemptible.

nashwan, Friday, 24 November 2023 18:50 (one year ago) link

no need to be shaming people with a PPE fetish

Tyler Perry's Cystitis (Noodle Vague), Friday, 24 November 2023 19:01 (one year ago) link

give him a sickle as well next time

fetter, Friday, 24 November 2023 19:58 (one year ago) link

Sky News
@SkyNews
BREAKING: Nottingham City Council declares itself effectively bankrupt

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 29 November 2023 18:58 (one year ago) link

and so it begins.
suspect there will be plenty of other councils sat there waiting to press the button.

mark e, Wednesday, 29 November 2023 19:08 (one year ago) link

I got a LA letter the other day "post 16 transport for disabled students in it's current form is unsustainable" ... let's have a consultation blah blah blah.. how about let's not have a consultation and you all go fuck yourselves. Not really a sustainable response, but it is all I've got for now.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 29 November 2023 19:35 (one year ago) link

Got a cheery leaflet from the council saying good news we're going from weekly landfill collection to fortnightly. Disastrous from what I know of some neighbours.

nashwan, Wednesday, 29 November 2023 20:25 (one year ago) link

we got new food waste bins, probably big enough for a family of four for a month. and the contents have to go into compostable bags and into the communal food waste outside for collection. only nobody has a) read the leaflet explaining this and b) I'm not sure there is a communal food waste bin anywhere.

rishi's 7 bins...

koogs, Wednesday, 29 November 2023 20:31 (one year ago) link

fortnightly landfill collection has been fine round our way. never see overflowing bins etc

oscar bravo, Wednesday, 29 November 2023 20:32 (one year ago) link

Time to take a big sip of sewage-contaminated water and update will the uk have levelled up by 2030

Boris Yitsbin (wins), Wednesday, 29 November 2023 20:36 (one year ago) link

Very funny how OJ is lawyering up. Good to see.

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Harriet Sergeant
@HarrietSergeant
@OwenJones84
I apologise. I was using hyperbole to make my point. It was never meant to be taken literally. But in this febrile and emotional time that was unwise. I have deleted the tweet

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 2 December 2023 12:57 (one year ago) link

Yeah, and I'm sure he'd rather have the retractions than actually sue

Fascist scum throughout the media

Honnest Brish Face (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 2 December 2023 12:59 (one year ago) link

Liam Barker
@liambarker
·
5h
Raising the minimum salary for a skilled foreign worker from £26,200 to over £35,000 means no junior doctors, nurses, allied health professionals. This is definitely not going to work

xyzzzz__, Monday, 4 December 2023 18:01 (one year ago) link

I mean yeah but none of it fucking works and they still do it, so

the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 4 December 2023 18:21 (one year ago) link

Followed by a tale about his sister bringing her own sandwiches to the pub lunch because she's so poor pic.twitter.com/zbLtTK7ICA

— j (@jrc1921) December 4, 2023



I’d sworn off posting about this mess but what a bizarre fucking clip? “My sister knows I won’t pay for her lunch so she brings sandwiches to the pub”? What the fuck? Can’t imagine doing this to any of my siblings let alone publicly admitting to it.

mojo dojo casas house (gyac), Monday, 4 December 2023 21:12 (one year ago) link

It’s ridiculous even for Keir.

steely flan (suzy), Monday, 4 December 2023 21:16 (one year ago) link

between him and whoever writes his stuff for him it's screamingly obvious he has no idea how real life works

Honnest Brish Face (Noodle Vague), Monday, 4 December 2023 21:19 (one year ago) link

because who the hell would suggest bringing home-made sandwiches to the pub. it's like his speechwriter is freeware ChatGPT

Honnest Brish Face (Noodle Vague), Monday, 4 December 2023 21:20 (one year ago) link

You’d get kicked out of a pub if you brought your own food anyway, so this is bollocks.

steely flan (suzy), Monday, 4 December 2023 21:21 (one year ago) link

tbh I sort of enjoyed the implication he's too mean to buy his sister pub food, probably using some torturous condescending metaphor about fucking taps

nashwan, Monday, 4 December 2023 21:23 (one year ago) link

when your relatable anecdotes are a) completely unrelatable and b) make you sound like a cunt

Honnest Brish Face (Noodle Vague), Monday, 4 December 2023 21:26 (one year ago) link

Kieth is kind of a master of this

Honnest Brish Face (Noodle Vague), Monday, 4 December 2023 21:27 (one year ago) link

I used to smuggle the odd bottle of liquor into a dodgy dive nightclub when I was a teenager. The idea of the adult sister of the UK LOTO smuggling sandwiches into a pub as tale of noble stoicism 😝😝😝

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 4 December 2023 21:33 (one year ago) link

All signs point to his being from a weird AF family.

steely flan (suzy), Monday, 4 December 2023 21:36 (one year ago) link

On top of everything else he's a total fucking weirdo.

Tom D has a right to defend himself (Tom D.), Monday, 4 December 2023 21:41 (one year ago) link

(xp)

Tom D has a right to defend himself (Tom D.), Monday, 4 December 2023 21:41 (one year ago) link

No wonder he's such a fan of Thatcher.

Tom D has a right to defend himself (Tom D.), Monday, 4 December 2023 21:47 (one year ago) link

Katherine Swabey, a former NHS nurse, works gruelling 12-hour shifts in a care home for the elderly close to the village of Westerham, Kent where she is responsible for overseeing dozens of vulnerable residents.

Her background is in nursing, but some job adverts listed at the care home show staff are paid an hourly rate of between £8.25 to £8.50.

As recently as last month, Ms Swabey, 57, a mother of four, was sharing a cramped annex adjoining a large, detached house with one of her grown up children and two grandchildren.

She was helping her son to pay rent of around around £1,000 per month in the tiny, three-bedroom annex but has now moved to East Grinstead, where friends revealed she has bought a ‘modest home.’

Ms Swabey’s situation and struggle to make ends meet was highlighted by her illustrious brother Sir Keir in the House of Commons as he lashed out at Boris Johnson’s plans to reform social care.

tbf she does intially sound to be struggling from this Mail piece from a couple of years back, but there is also a hint that Kieth might have got the sandwiches in for her.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 4 December 2023 21:58 (one year ago) link

ffs the cunt is loaded and he can't even dip his hands in his pocket to help his sister out

Tom D has a right to defend himself (Tom D.), Monday, 4 December 2023 22:17 (one year ago) link

the dream move to a modest house in East Grimstead he fixed for her was contingent on her never expecting him to pay for her sandwiches ever again!

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 4 December 2023 22:39 (one year ago) link

'modest homes' in east grinstead cost an absolute fortune btw

oscar bravo, Monday, 4 December 2023 22:49 (one year ago) link

£300-400k for modest 3br in that area.

steely flan (suzy), Monday, 4 December 2023 22:51 (one year ago) link

I had a feeling that would be the case

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 4 December 2023 22:55 (one year ago) link

Any old tale where it's a 'lets do austerity' at the end. It's almost insulting how they can't be bothered to lie properly to justify this misery.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 4 December 2023 23:19 (one year ago) link

L. Ron Hubbard's old stamping ground. Talking of weirdoes.

Tom D has a right to defend himself (Tom D.), Monday, 4 December 2023 23:32 (one year ago) link

We want to help people on welfare and into work. We want to reduce pressure on housing and public services, and also to build a more socially cohesive and united country, which is difficult, I would argue impossible, when such large numbers of people are coming into the country.

Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 5 December 2023 11:13 (one year ago) link

Sir, this is a Dominos

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 5 December 2023 11:38 (one year ago) link

lol

Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 5 December 2023 11:43 (one year ago) link

No one here understands that Starmer is trying to appeal to Conservative voters in the "red wall", who like to vote for people who are nasty, mean-spirited and out of touch. Or something.

It's a grand strategy. Also stop intimating that he doesn't have to pretend, that's a slur

glumdalclitch, Tuesday, 5 December 2023 11:48 (one year ago) link

Sir, this is a Dominos

Is that some kind of meme, because it remains me of this from The Day Today?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXwFzRA56sI

Tom D has a right to defend himself (Tom D.), Tuesday, 5 December 2023 11:59 (one year ago) link

https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/sir-this-is-an-arbys

mark s, Tuesday, 5 December 2023 12:01 (one year ago) link

That Day Today clip is a similar idea!

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 5 December 2023 12:11 (one year ago) link

🤔🤔🤔

John Crace
@JohnJCrace
·
19h
My daughter will no longer be able to come back from America and live with her US husband in the UK

Thank you
@RishiSunak

The UK government: keeping families apart

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 6 December 2023 13:27 (one year ago) link

A few weeks ago one politics reporter was complaining about childcare costs on twitter. Fools thought they'd be insulated from this.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 6 December 2023 14:04 (one year ago) link

they shouldn't have kids if they can't afford to bring them up ;)

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 6 December 2023 14:08 (one year ago) link

Too busy spending their money on mobile phones and wide-screen tellies.

Tom D has a right to defend himself (Tom D.), Wednesday, 6 December 2023 14:10 (one year ago) link

this is a reply I got when I talked about this on twitter yesterday. I do have to wonder how many of the people I see in public every day think like this, and how far they would be willing to go for their ideas.

There is no cruelty to this policy. If a person wishes to marry a foreign national, then they should go and live in that country.

— Linda Anne Goodman (@Lags71Anne) December 5, 2023

the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 6 December 2023 14:13 (one year ago) link

it wouldn't be the first time I've seen a mean-spirited, probable racist crank account with a cute black Labrador for a profile pic!

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 6 December 2023 14:23 (one year ago) link

used to be a "racist pets" twitter account but seems they stopped bothering a while back.

the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 6 December 2023 14:34 (one year ago) link

Black labs matter

fetter, Wednesday, 6 December 2023 14:36 (one year ago) link

BREAKING: Rwanda government threatens to pull out of the deal if it does not adhere to international law.

Hugely problematic - and potentially humiliating - for govt if its partner country decides the deal is too toxic.

Statement below 👇 pic.twitter.com/2pGfxNwKXp

— Paul Brand (@PaulBrandITV) December 6, 2023

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 6 December 2023 17:58 (one year ago) link

can't see how any self-respecting nation would want to be associated with the UK gov

Honnest Brish Face (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 6 December 2023 18:03 (one year ago) link

Robert Jenrick resigning apparently.
He's the minister for immigration apparently.
or he was the minister for immigration, idk

the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 6 December 2023 18:33 (one year ago) link

John Crace
@JohnJCrace
·
19h
My daughter will no longer be able to come back from America and live with her US husband in the UK

Thank you
@RishiSunak

i kindly refer you to a daily telegraph writer !

A friend has just messaged in a blind panic to ask if @JamesCleverly’s immigration plan means he can’t bring his partner into the country.

The Gov is doubling the salary required of a British subject to bring a spouse or dependent into the country - to £38,700. 🧵

— Tim Stanley (@timothy_stanley) December 4, 2023

mark e, Wednesday, 6 December 2023 18:48 (one year ago) link

spouses on family visas already have to pay the healthcare surchage https://www.gov.uk/healthcare-immigration-application/who-needs-pay, so the goal is here is certainly not to offset the public funds spent on the average person.
it's to ensure only rich[*] people move the UK.

[*] "rich" here means above the median UK household[**] income, which completely coincidentally (!) is almost exactly the new income requirement.

[**] that tweet above is wrong. the new requirement (38.7k) and the old one (18k) apply to the household income, not just the income of the UK citizen. https://www.gov.uk/uk-family-visa/proof-income.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 6 December 2023 19:35 (one year ago) link

here we go again.

jenrick resignation due to revised treaty not being hardcore enough re human rights.

mark e, Wednesday, 6 December 2023 19:39 (one year ago) link

fwiw the income requirement does not apply at all if you're willing to be on a family visa for 10 years while waiting for indefinite leave to remain, rather than the usual 5 years. that's the rule you've got to watch for them changing, not just the requirement itself.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 6 December 2023 19:41 (one year ago) link

I and my wife have just been through the 5-year pathway. In total has cost us something like £10,000+ I think. The initial income requirement was for the British spouse (me) only, though they call it "household" - and it increases for each child you have, so was nearly 27,000 for us. We were able to offset some of this because my mother gifted us some money. It was a very stressful five (more than six actually) years, I have moved around the world since 2003 and never had a nightmare like this before, the sheer amount of paperwork and opaque decision making.

the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 6 December 2023 19:59 (one year ago) link

The whole system seems to be predicated on "everyone loves us and wants to move here, we will do everything in our power to keep out the riff-raff" when in reality it's a shithole and everyone correctly hates us.

the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 6 December 2023 20:03 (one year ago) link

yeah the household income vs. UK citizen only income thing *seems* to be simpler if you're both outside the UK, in which case they're happy to look at household income. almost like the bar ends up being lower for a couple moving from overseas than for someone in the UK bringing a partner in. difficult to see an ideological reason for this difference, other than opacity and ambiguity has a net chilling effect on migration.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 6 December 2023 20:09 (one year ago) link

yeah, this does not surprise me, and makes me thankful for the groove me and bh had in 1990 when finland was not yet a full member of the EU.
she had an interview in helsinki,
i had an interview in leeds (with an ex Led Zep roadie !),
and a few photos etc,
and boom, she was allowed in on a 6 month marriage visa,
during which we got married of course (32nd anniverary yesterday).

no doubt such a thing would be totally impossible in this day and age, which is truly sad.

i had no job, and nor did she.
we lived off savings, and got crappy jobs sharpish to pay rent etc.
not once did we hit the benefits system,
but i dont think this makes any difference now ?

mark e, Wednesday, 6 December 2023 20:09 (one year ago) link

I was walking home from work last week and a guy walking towards me stopped and asked if I was a british citizen. I said I was and he told me that he was an Iranian asylum seeker and he wanted me to know that the UK was shit and all the people from around the world ( he mentioned india, pakistan and syria) who wanted to move here were shit too. he seemed amiable enough and asked me what I thought of what he said. I just said good luck. he was coming from the direction of brook house in gatwick which probably more than justifies his statement tbf.

oscar bravo, Wednesday, 6 December 2023 20:14 (one year ago) link

supposedly the income requirement also doesn't apply if you're a parent or eligible for disability benefits (ha!) AND you can prove you won't rely on public funds. looking at the docs now, and how someone with low income *proves* that is beyond me.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 6 December 2023 20:17 (one year ago) link

in retrospect we did it all wrong, I quit my job three months before moving to the UK and brought my wife with me on a tourist visa, assuming incorrectly that there was a way to convert it, then she had to go back to China with our younger son for what ended up being six months. As a Chinese person applying from China you don't go through the home office, you deal entirely with this evil incompetent company called VFS instead, and they are extremely unfriendly.

the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 6 December 2023 20:18 (one year ago) link

oof. i'm following this stuff because 3/4 of us are dual citizens of the UK and US and things in the US could ... you know, go one way or the other re: fascism etc. 1/4 of us has no income though.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 6 December 2023 20:31 (one year ago) link

just as an example of what VFS is like, after the application has gone in this is the only way you can get an update on your application:

you phone a premium rate phone number, the operator then takes a credit card number from you so they can charge you an additional £7 per minute for the call. After giving them the card details you have a five minute call where they look up your info and tell you "your application is currently being processed by the embassy" - and that's it.

the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 6 December 2023 20:46 (one year ago) link

this was all a lot easier 20 years ago. not sure if there even was an income requirement then, I was on £20k when B moved here. she came over on a fiancee visa, we got married here, she had to go back to the US to apply for further? leave to remain, then that was it for a few years then indefinite leave to remain, I don't think it cost more than a few hundred quid. never had to pay some bullshit NHS surcharge either.

if we had these rules then I'm not sure we could've done it. sickening

Colonel Poo, Wednesday, 6 December 2023 20:47 (one year ago) link

there have been a series of incremental increases in how shit it is to go through, but the big one was around 2012 and conducted by Ms T May

the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 6 December 2023 20:50 (one year ago) link

the goal is here is certainly not to offset the public funds spent on the average person. it's to ensure only rich[*] people move the UK.

It's simpler than that, it's to appeal to bigots and racists and embarrass the Labour Party.

Free Ass Ange (Tom D.), Wednesday, 6 December 2023 21:12 (one year ago) link

My way in was a freelance visa! Which was a feature of FATCHER’S BRITAIN, oddly enough. I was lucky enough to get a column for a US music magazine to strengthen my application but once I was in London I could freelance for any UK business. I had already done BUNAC as a student for a six-month work permit (and NI number) and took it in three-month chunks, the latter of which had me writing for NME (which got me my column but also had me watching Thatcher get booted in a TV room at Kings Reach Tower with Steven Wells, yay). Basically, as long as you could stick four years without recourse to public funds, they’d rubber-stamp your visa renewal until you got ILR. Cost? Free.

No fucking way I could’ve come here as a 22yo skint graduate today.

steely flan (suzy), Wednesday, 6 December 2023 22:16 (one year ago) link

It's simpler than that, it's to appeal to bigots and racists and embarrass the Labour Party.

― Free Ass Ange (Tom D.), Wednesday, 6 December 2023 21:12 (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

I am bracing myself for Labour to announce that they think it's a good plan, but the tories aren't doing it quickly / efficiently enough.

the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 6 December 2023 22:24 (one year ago) link

these people are absolutely obsessed with putting undocumented people on planes. it’s like what they do to relax. and if they can’t do it, they’ll quit

Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 7 December 2023 10:30 (one year ago) link

I must say the Tory Right has some impressive standard bearers, first Suella Braverman and now this weaselly little crook.

Free Ass Ange (Tom D.), Thursday, 7 December 2023 10:40 (one year ago) link

a news conference just for this, just to keep telling us how tough the new legislation is?

koogs, Thursday, 7 December 2023 11:16 (one year ago) link

If I'm understanding Sunak right, what use is a good piece of boot-stamping-on-a-human-face legislation if it can't pass or is blocked in the courts? This is why slightly softer boot stamping is low-key actually the hardest boot stamping of all, because it will actually happen, so, vote Tory

Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 7 December 2023 12:13 (one year ago) link

UK Prime Minister
@10DowningStreet
We are a reasonable country, but our patience has now run out.

Our Parliament is sovereign, and it should be able to make decisions that cannot be undone in our courts.

That’s what this emergency legislation delivers.

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 7 December 2023 12:18 (one year ago) link

Our 'constitution' is being torn up today. Cool cool

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 7 December 2023 12:19 (one year ago) link

Well, it's worked for Netanyahu so far.

Free Ass Ange (Tom D.), Thursday, 7 December 2023 12:20 (one year ago) link

Luckily the finest political journalists in the world will be explaining exactly what Sunak's doing in here and what it implies for civil rights

Honnest Brish Face (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 7 December 2023 12:22 (one year ago) link

We are a reasonable country

Just normal, innocent country.

Our Parliament is sovereign, and it should be able to make decisions that cannot be undone in our courts.

So you're saying you didn't have to leave the EU.

nashwan, Thursday, 7 December 2023 12:29 (one year ago) link

they fuggin love deporting people to Rwanda sooooo much they will PAY to do it! it’s honestly a bit fetishistic. is this findom??

Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Friday, 8 December 2023 13:23 (one year ago) link

msm coverage feels pretty entrenched in a 'shrug well gotta get those numbers down somehow no need to question that' way for Labour to solemnly nod along with

nashwan, Friday, 8 December 2023 13:40 (one year ago) link

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-67679180?

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 14 December 2023 12:14 (one year ago) link

A boy and a girl who had a fascination with violence and torture have been found guilty of murdering teenager Brianna Ghey. https://t.co/K8lquXbFZL

— BBC North West (@BBCNWT) December 20, 2023

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 20 December 2023 17:37 (one year ago) link

and now we can all forget about it and all those public figures who've stoked transphobic hate can continue stoking transphobic hate

Honnest Brish Face (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 18:22 (one year ago) link

🚨 The Irish government has confirmed plans to pursue an interstate case against the United Kingdom at the European Court of Human Rights, over its controversial laws effectively blocking any future prosecutions for Troubles offences

— Gavan Reilly (@gavreilly) December 20, 2023



THE BRITISH ARMY ARE ACTORS ON BEHALF OF THE BRITISH STATE JFCCCCCCCCC

UK responds: Irish position “on dealing with legacy issues is inconsistent and hard to reconcile with its own record. At no time since 1998 has there been any concerted or sustained attempt on the part of the Irish state to pursue a criminal investigation” https://t.co/gQENVQiYxJ

— Gavan Reilly (@gavreilly) December 20, 2023

mojo dojo casas house (gyac), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 19:20 (one year ago) link

It's grim up north and that's how we intend to keep it...

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/dec/20/disbelief-at-plan-to-fix-london-potholes-as-part-of-network-north-project

Nine Inch Males (Tom D.), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 20:47 (one year ago) link

come on let's be fair here, they did send a few sacks of instant tarmac to Chickenley

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 20:55 (one year ago) link

sorry I meant "a few thousand" but that would be utter utopianism!

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 21:02 (one year ago) link

where else are we supposed to dig up gravel for us tea?

Honnest Brish Face (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 21:22 (one year ago) link

nice to see the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland bringing back the "nuke Dublin" years

Honnest Brish Face (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 21:26 (one year ago) link

I keep having mad dreams about moving to Ireland and everyone there hates me because I'm British. It has replaced my previous recurring nightmare of being responsible for a float of money in a bookie cash register and wandering off while an unruly mob helps themselves to it!

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 22:48 (one year ago) link

Shane McGowan seemed pretty popular, despite the London accent.

Nine Inch Males (Tom D.), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 22:50 (one year ago) link

My brother before he moved to Dubai spent a few years in Dublin and all the family there fucking loved him because he's gregarious and likes to buy in rounds in the pubs and is better at chatting shit than me. I've always been treated well when I've visited there, but lack my brother's star quality!

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 23:07 (one year ago) link

talking of Shane MacGowan and also that ilx celebrity sightings thread, I knew this would happen eventually, but after living here for 2 years I went into a pub on Monday to find one of the 2 other customers in there was Julie Burchill. Who has of course written an article for the Spectator slagging off Shane MacGowan, surprising nobody.

She promptly left while we were at the bar. Could probably smell the woke off me or something.

Colonel Poo, Thursday, 21 December 2023 00:15 (one year ago) link

I'd love it if it wasn't assumed that all white working class people are automatically all racists. Which was one of the thrusts of JB's article, Shane MacGowan was from a middle class family, not like real working class Irish diaspora like Morrissey or John Lydon where the racism is assumed and fine. I had this argument with this woman I work with who is posh as fuck when she read Lydon's autobiography and said well he's working class so of course he has these opinions and I said isn't that pretty fucking patronising to all the working class people who aren't racists? That did shut her up tbh. I was extremely unsurprised to find out at our xmas party last week that she's a terf.

Colonel Poo, Thursday, 21 December 2023 00:32 (one year ago) link

See the 'polite' middle classes writing in The Guardian that Transphobia didn't have much to do with Brianna Ghey's murder.

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 21 December 2023 08:02 (one year ago) link

It's basically not been mentioned anywhere.

Nine Inch Males (Tom D.), Thursday, 21 December 2023 08:04 (one year ago) link

Junior Doctors strike again

'Doctors in training as I prefer to call them walked out of our negotiations'

Health Secretary Victoria Atkins spoke to #BBCBreakfast about the 72 hour junior doctors strike in Englandhttps://t.co/YKYqO83Xrp pic.twitter.com/PDCwoRRDaI

— BBC Breakfast (@BBCBreakfast) December 21, 2023

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 21 December 2023 12:11 (one year ago) link

Is there some 4d chess reason why Atkins thinks it's a good idea to unnecessarily antagonise striking doctors, or is this just the Conservatives figuring that they're already doomed so there's no reason to bother hiding their petulance and bitterness?

soref, Thursday, 21 December 2023 12:20 (one year ago) link

some "you won't have Richard Nixon to kick around any more" kind of thing

soref, Thursday, 21 December 2023 12:21 (one year ago) link

Starmer, “I will restore standards in public life with a total crackdown on cronyism: this ends now.”

... talk about a hostage to fortune.

Little Billy Love (Tom D.), Thursday, 4 January 2024 08:22 (eleven months ago) link

It's like a wink to the audience. That audience being the journos desperate to place him in power.

glumdalclitch, Thursday, 4 January 2024 10:00 (eleven months ago) link

It’s handing those journos a stick to beat him with

Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 4 January 2024 10:16 (eleven months ago) link

Countdown to first Bernie Ecclestone-esque revelation starts here

emishi sun hack (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 4 January 2024 12:32 (eleven months ago) link

lol yess this is leadership

Starmer says Labour will ‘meet fire with fire’ if Tories resort to dirty tactics during election

nashwan, Thursday, 4 January 2024 17:23 (eleven months ago) link

I'm old enough to remember his leadership election where he dogwhistled his opponent over her Irish Catholic background and refused to disclose his right-wing donors until the vote was finished. Gosh, I'm shocked he knows how to go low.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 4 January 2024 17:31 (eleven months ago) link

Interestingly some of the media hacks on twitter seem to be making mild fun of Starmer's "pull the growth lever" crap; despite what I said above it does seem that some are starting to get sick of his bullshit and their role in supporting it.

glumdalclitch, Thursday, 4 January 2024 21:03 (eleven months ago) link

the "five missions" or whatever the fuck he's calling it this year, without being underlined by policies or significant spending commitments, it doesn't mean a thing. It's saying something when UK political hacks want to see more credibility beyond some very unpromising rhetoric there in order to stan for this cunt without looking like bigger wankers than they already are.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 4 January 2024 21:20 (eleven months ago) link

Curtice has said all party conferences are scheduled for early autumn. He expects the election to take place 14th November.

Which means there is quite a bit of time for the economy to improve. Inflation went down more than expected last month. There should be interest rate cuts by then. Housing market is expected to improve and weeks of 30-40 degree + weather would be forgotten by then.

Of course there are other events I'm sure but from all this I would think a Tory recovery to a hung parliament would be a fair bet.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 5 January 2024 09:18 (eleven months ago) link

they are currently polling lower than the Major govt in the runup to '97, but that was a completely different election. This time the hatred of Tories is going to be mitigated to some degree by the apathy towards Labour and it's likely to be a low turnout imo. Looking forward to how embarrassing the Starmer campaign is going to be and seeing it get ripped to pieces by the left and right-wing media, it's going to be a bit like the Maybot sequel, not just in presentation but also in terms of dismal grey compromise policies that barely make a difference and nobody gives a fuck about.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 5 January 2024 09:57 (eleven months ago) link

I don’t think they’ll want to go around the same time as US elections.

steely flan (suzy), Friday, 5 January 2024 09:58 (eleven months ago) link

Why would that matter?

xyzzzz__, Friday, 5 January 2024 10:12 (eleven months ago) link

they are currently polling lower than the Major govt in the runup to '97

Odds still continuing to drift, relative to mid October

out from 6/1 to 7/1 for most seats
and from 10/1 tp 11/1 for Conservative majority

(hung Parliament 9/2, forgot to check that before)

anvil, Friday, 5 January 2024 10:12 (eleven months ago) link

It's come up again recently, with the rise of the Reform Party, but I'd forgotten that another reason for the scale of Corbyn's GE defeat was that the Brexit Party didn't contest any seats won by the Tories in the 2017 election. Slight diversion, sorry.

Little Billy Love (Tom D.), Friday, 5 January 2024 10:19 (eleven months ago) link

in FPTP Starmer could conceivably get minus a million+ or even a couple of million less votes than Corbyn got in '19 and all the Labour grandees of the right won't be repeatedly calling it as the worst election result since the 1930's!

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 5 January 2024 10:30 (eleven months ago) link

For the Tories their biggest issue is that there isn't anything to replace Brexit as an issue for them to rally around.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 5 January 2024 10:43 (eleven months ago) link

Small boats ain't no Brexit, for sure.

Little Billy Love (Tom D.), Friday, 5 January 2024 10:48 (eleven months ago) link

mad dog Jav invading the Falklands in the next few months would be a good result for them

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 5 January 2024 10:57 (eleven months ago) link

the propaganda campaign for the war will heavily involve a lot of hamfisted attempts to reclaim the phrase "hand of god"

Left, Friday, 5 January 2024 12:14 (eleven months ago) link

We shouldn't pay too much attention to polls this far out from an election, much of the electorate isn't paying attention at this point in the cycle and we shouldn't read too much into Trumps lead when there's such a long time to go until the election

Looking at the polls, its difficult to see the Conservatives clawing back much at this point, so close to the election

anvil, Monday, 8 January 2024 10:48 (eleven months ago) link

I have only ever been doorstep polled once, possibly it was IPSOS - can't remember. They only asked who I intended to vote for, there was never the question did I intend to vote.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 8 January 2024 10:58 (eleven months ago) link

I don’t think they’ll want to go around the same time as US elections.

Yes you would think, although increasingly can see how they might prefer this in a defeatist dead cat way re policies and doing real work, but it's more about whether their media chums want that workload innit.

nashwan, Monday, 8 January 2024 11:37 (eleven months ago) link

British journalists and media love covering US elections above all else, so I imagine they won't want to be forced to cover a boring old UK election.

Little Billy Love (Tom D.), Monday, 8 January 2024 11:44 (eleven months ago) link

he's spent SO much time and effort and burnt so much goodwill from actual voters to try and get the Murdoch papers to endorse him, and here we are. really funny you have to say pic.twitter.com/qm9rmuEolq

— wariotifo (@wariotifo) January 9, 2024

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 9 January 2024 09:42 (eleven months ago) link

lol, they don't even credit him for his night courts endorsement, having a vulnerable Asian autistic man extradited to the US on fabricated terrorist charges, for ruling that racist Lynch mobs require no police investigation etc...etc... all his greatest hits as DPP should actually make him a top bloke to The S*n

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 9 January 2024 10:06 (eleven months ago) link

Reading the odd piece on Kids Company as a window on what this country is like if you aren't born on the right side of the tracks.

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2024/jan/09/the-hidden-life-of-camila-batmanghelidjh-why-was-her-exoneration-so-widely-ignored

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 9 January 2024 11:21 (eleven months ago) link

xp - the worst of it is Starmer may become PM but he'll be bullied by the press just like that. Shame, such a top bloke

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 9 January 2024 11:26 (eleven months ago) link

they'll keep doing this at least partially because he's encouraged them to do it

emishi sun hack (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 9 January 2024 12:09 (eleven months ago) link

the party fucking loves this shit it's like a kink or something

media/tories: you caused a financial crisis through welfare spending!
labour: yeah we kind of did didn't we that one's on us

media: you secretly called a racist lady racist!
labour: yes we did and it just goes to show how terrible and out of touch we are

it's so weird how this is their whole thing now and maybe the problem with corbynism was they just couldn't get it off during that period

Left, Tuesday, 9 January 2024 12:34 (eleven months ago) link

What about the rest of the IT/management consulting which receive government contracts resulting in projects that aren't delivered on time, are poorly thought out in the first place and -- though consequences aren't as catastrophic as this -- fail?

Fujitsu will be 'held accountable' legally or financially if the public inquiry finds it blundered in the Post Office Horizon scandal, Downing Street has said https://t.co/iDKJcicpms

— ITV News Politics (@ITVNewsPolitics) January 9, 2024

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 9 January 2024 13:37 (eleven months ago) link

If government built in IT servicing of its own again it would bankrupt a lot of the private IT service sector, stocks would tank, and you would make a lot of Tories in SE England weep.

So it won't happen.

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 9 January 2024 13:40 (eleven months ago) link

the report has been posted and some of the code, albeit reverse engineered, looks terrible - reversing the sign of a number by taking it away from itself twice...

PDF Download - https://www.postofficehorizoninquiry.org.uk/file/871/download?token=gDkssh69

koogs, Tuesday, 9 January 2024 17:27 (eleven months ago) link

(the report = a report from 1998)

koogs, Tuesday, 9 January 2024 17:28 (eleven months ago) link

terrible that Fujitsu willfully decided to prosecute and imprison hundreds of innocent people

emishi sun hack (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 9 January 2024 17:33 (eleven months ago) link

imagine if they'd fucked the code up in a way that allowed sub post-masters to pocket grands of excess cash every week. Horizon would have been flagged up as not fit for purpose in weeks.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 9 January 2024 17:43 (eleven months ago) link

Of course.

Or, if it had nominated etc

Mark G, Wednesday, 10 January 2024 12:34 (eleven months ago) link

Disabled widower from Caerphilly, 78, prosecuted for not insuring a car he no longer uses.

He's not coping after his wife's death and his papers were destroyed in a flood

Convicted via Single Justice Procedure, court bill: £106

DVLA didn't read this letter. pic.twitter.com/65z8TkStDB

— Tristan Kirk (@kirkkorner) January 10, 2024

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 11 January 2024 11:29 (eleven months ago) link

I wish sir kid harmer a very don't ever sleep again as his predecessor comments on the trial in the hague. Funny that we'll now have 2 Labour PMs in a row that have been complicit in war crimes/crimes against humanity.

glumdalclitch, Thursday, 11 January 2024 20:36 (eleven months ago) link

Real Labour Values

craning to be leather (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 11 January 2024 20:52 (eleven months ago) link

(ugh sorry forgot about G Brown but anyway)

glumdalclitch, Thursday, 11 January 2024 20:56 (eleven months ago) link

When reports of Batmanghelidjh’s death emerged last week, it was alarming how many people admitted on social media that they had been unaware she had been exonerated by the high court nearly three years ago..

same here. The kid's company piece was a sad read. I think I might have harshly judged batmanghelidjh for doing chummy meetings with Cameron at the time and thought she was probably a grifter.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 11 January 2024 21:08 (eleven months ago) link

same, but i think there's something cautionary there about the nature of charities and the kinds of grift most of them seem comfortable engaging in

craning to be leather (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 11 January 2024 22:01 (eleven months ago) link

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-67950501

"Sir Keir Starmer says he wasn't aware of the three Horizon cases brought against sub-postmasters by the Crown Prosecution Service when he led it.

The Labour leader was director of public prosecutions from 2008 to 2013.

Asked by the BBC if he should have been more curious, he said the CPS handled four million cases in that period."

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 11 January 2024 22:12 (eleven months ago) link

xp

oh hell yes, but I also had some invaluable help from Carer's Count. Some of the frontline workers/volunteers for charities are really good people. I just feel strongly they i: they shouldn't exist ii: Charities that are easily neutered by the UK govt through waivers signed under threat of funding withdrawn are not a good model for a charitable organisation. iii: Some of these fuckers are grifters.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 11 January 2024 22:13 (eleven months ago) link

hah hah!

"I was too busy shielding Sir Jimmy Savile from the cps at the time"

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 11 January 2024 22:14 (eleven months ago) link

Lol

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 11 January 2024 22:22 (eleven months ago) link

Seconded

Bulky Pee Pants (Tom D.), Thursday, 11 January 2024 22:24 (eleven months ago) link

it feels strange to see a UK military campaign that mostly isn't being framed as a humanitarian intervention but rather as a hard-headed defence of UK national interests, it feels like it's been a while since that was the case?

I mean, supporters are arguing that it's morally justified, and emphasising how bad an reactionary the Houthis are, but it feels different than most wars the UK has been involved in over the last 30 years where they've been framed as helping liberate a subjugated people or preventing an imminent crime against humanity

soref, Friday, 12 January 2024 11:14 (eleven months ago) link

Operation Liberate Genocide

craning to be leather (Noodle Vague), Friday, 12 January 2024 11:21 (eleven months ago) link

Paul Mason is on twitter trying to argue that it's about protecting "working class seafarers", but even he doesn't seem to really have his heart in it

Rubbish Jeremy. The strikes were a last resort after terrorists repeatedly attacked working class seafarers. Do the right thing and support those risking their lives to keep civilian ships safe from terrorism 👇🏽 https://t.co/h051e9vxpp

— Paul Mason (@paulmasonnews) January 12, 2024

soref, Friday, 12 January 2024 11:39 (eleven months ago) link

xp wait till that lunatic in Argentina invaded the Falklands

mojo dojo casas house (gyac), Friday, 12 January 2024 11:40 (eleven months ago) link

Mason's shtick is so predictable at this stage he might as well just own is Strasseriteness

God imagine being stuck in a pub with Mason and Embery

craning to be leather (Noodle Vague), Friday, 12 January 2024 12:35 (eleven months ago) link

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2024/jan/12/done-with-labour-and-tories-reform-uk-angry-voters

They were similarly unimpressed by Sunak’s Labour opponent. While the group expected a Labour victory this year, they dismissed Keir Starmer as “more of the same”, a “Red Tory”. Others thought (mistakenly) that he had defended Jimmy Savile and couldn’t vote for him as a result.

Tories will have a tricky balancing act this year between blaming Starmer for anything and everything from when he was DPP, and overegging the pudding so dumbfuck morons like the above get bored of it and require fresh stimulation.

where did the times go (Matt #2), Friday, 12 January 2024 12:38 (eleven months ago) link

Starmer's pretty easy to blame just for being Starmer tbf

craning to be leather (Noodle Vague), Friday, 12 January 2024 12:39 (eleven months ago) link

Love that "mistakenly".

Bulky Pee Pants (Tom D.), Friday, 12 January 2024 12:49 (eleven months ago) link

I heard he fitted up the sub-postmasters as well

Ethinically Ambigaus (Bananaman Begins), Friday, 12 January 2024 12:56 (eleven months ago) link

This is a lad who'd sound shifty and guilty as fuck even if he had nothing to do with something

craning to be leather (Noodle Vague), Friday, 12 January 2024 12:57 (eleven months ago) link

I'm not going to amplify these scurrilous conspiracy theories that muddy the reputation of Sir Keir Starmer here, no way. That might blunt their impact, save them for when the election campaign begins.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 12 January 2024 13:07 (eleven months ago) link

Love that "mistakenly".

― Bulky Pee Pants (Tom D.), Friday, 12 January 2024 bookmarkflaglink

Really. As if these ppl weren't pushing their own conspiracies while Corbyn was leader.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 12 January 2024 13:19 (eleven months ago) link

It's so they don't get sued, I know you know this..

Mark G, Friday, 12 January 2024 13:30 (eleven months ago) link

Also when Tory voters are calling you a Red Tory...

Bulky Pee Pants (Tom D.), Friday, 12 January 2024 14:01 (eleven months ago) link

'Mistakenly' could've been applied to p much everything the Reform converts said/repeated from what they read or heard from all the usual suspects.

nashwan, Friday, 12 January 2024 14:13 (eleven months ago) link

Love to see it

Sir Ed Davey has refused to apologise over his position in the Post Office scandal, despite being asked to more than ten times in an interview with ITV News' @PaulBrandITV https://t.co/iC6gR2m0KG pic.twitter.com/hhgPQuXIHE

— ITV News Politics (@ITVNewsPolitics) January 12, 2024

mojo dojo casas house (gyac), Friday, 12 January 2024 17:47 (eleven months ago) link

i guess you could say there's a man who at least honestly understands that he doesn't have to give one fuck and there'll be no consequences for that

craning to be leather (Noodle Vague), Friday, 12 January 2024 18:51 (eleven months ago) link

Reform UK - the party for whom two arms are not enough.

I and my fellow Prospective Parliamentary Candidates in the Reform UK party do not have the ability to take action on illegal immigration at the moment. But when you vote us all in as MPs, watch this space! This government should hang their heads in shame! pic.twitter.com/kvWnGNEq7M

— Reform PPC Central Suffolk & North Ipswich (@michael_hallatt) January 14, 2024

Wry & Slobby (Portsmouth Bubblejet), Monday, 15 January 2024 15:51 (eleven months ago) link

Two arms for crossing and looking serious, one spare for a salute*

*salute to be specified at a later date

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 15 January 2024 18:12 (eleven months ago) link

"working class seafarers" sounds like a decemberists song

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 16 January 2024 14:59 (eleven months ago) link

Mick Lynch uses the same term when talking about the salty seadogs who are members of the RMT, but obv Mason is just doing his usual fuckwitted sophistry here.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 16 January 2024 15:43 (eleven months ago) link

Astonishing stat: 40% of council houses sold through Right to Buy are now rented by private landlords (up to 70% in some places) at double the cost of council housing. Presumably with many of those renters supported by housing benefit. Utter madness!

— Harry Quilter-Pinner (@harry_qp) January 16, 2024

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 17 January 2024 10:06 (eleven months ago) link

Evelyn Waugh characters clowning on rtb now

Ethinically Ambigaus (Bananaman Begins), Wednesday, 17 January 2024 10:13 (eleven months ago) link

I almost feel a sense of relief when I see sweary kids playing in the middle of the road and telling their parents to fuck off. Some of these RtB snobs think they are middle class now! And the private renter next door feels he is entitled to live in silence. I told him to go rent a croft in the Outer Hebrides if wants silence and never darken my doorstep again with frivolous complaints. I'm glad the cunt is paying double social rent because he's a fucking tool.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 17 January 2024 10:25 (eleven months ago) link

I don't know who this Quilty lad is but he knows fuck all about how housing costs are paid thru the benefits system

wang mang band (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 17 January 2024 11:07 (eleven months ago) link

(clue, it's hardly ever thru Housing Benefit)

wang mang band (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 17 January 2024 11:08 (eleven months ago) link

he seems to think housing benefit will actually pay double social rent rate, it should cover it all though. It's not the tenants fault successive UK govts have enabled or done nothing to arrest a social housing crisis that was in the making since 1980.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 17 January 2024 11:25 (eleven months ago) link

I think without jumping to conclusions this isn't a lad who knows much about people living around the breadline

wang mang band (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 17 January 2024 12:09 (eleven months ago) link

xxxp fucked up what he did to that girl fleeing her abusive stepfather

Ethinically Ambigaus (Bananaman Begins), Wednesday, 17 January 2024 12:09 (eleven months ago) link

lol exactly

wang mang band (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 17 January 2024 12:10 (eleven months ago) link

There is a 2BR in my LA building that is always let to three international students for around £650/week, so I looked it up on Zoopla and it was bought up (likely RTB) before their records started, so the landlord is probably mortgage-free. Council tenants pay around £180/week for the same flat.

Granted, the flat is in Central London but that’s some markup.

steely flan (suzy), Wednesday, 17 January 2024 12:19 (eleven months ago) link

media coverage of the royal family in full extremely normal mode

wang mang band (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 18 January 2024 09:19 (eleven months ago) link

When you have no means of getting a car, affording a wife/husband/kid and a house.

For people under 50 today's YouGov poll is:

Lab 60%
Con 10%
Green 10%
LD 9%
Reform 5%
SNP 3%

— Sam Freedman (@Samfr) January 18, 2024

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 18 January 2024 11:09 (eleven months ago) link

LOL, that can't be real?

Bulky Pee Pants (Tom D.), Thursday, 18 January 2024 11:12 (eleven months ago) link

OK, apparently it is. Among 18-24 year olds, support for the Tories sits at 4%! Crazy times.

Bulky Pee Pants (Tom D.), Thursday, 18 January 2024 11:15 (eleven months ago) link

Posh people just not breeding enough

wang mang band (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 18 January 2024 11:26 (eleven months ago) link

they're breeding but their kids are super-weird and hate their parents and themselves (source: saltburn)

mark s, Thursday, 18 January 2024 11:33 (eleven months ago) link

OK, apparently it is. Among 18-24 year olds, support for the Tories sits at 4%! Crazy times.

― Bulky Pee Pants (Tom D.), Thursday, 18 January 2024 bookmarkflaglink

They better be given a house, a job that pays, a car and a pension to look forward.

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 18 January 2024 13:19 (eleven months ago) link

But guess what? Labour won't give you those things either, so it doesn't matter.

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 18 January 2024 13:20 (eleven months ago) link

yeah, thanks UK electorate for belatedly falling out with the tory party, but mostly not falling with their policies and economic model.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 18 January 2024 13:40 (eleven months ago) link

Hasn't the polling by age group been similar for quite a long while, its just of a question of when it starts to matter? (I thought guaranteed for next election not this one but other factors maybe shifting the more important senior votes too)

anvil, Thursday, 18 January 2024 14:41 (eleven months ago) link

as to why it looks like its changing an election early I mean

anvil, Thursday, 18 January 2024 14:43 (eleven months ago) link

Never in a million years has support for the Tories been at 10% for the under fifties. I'd surprised if it's ever been that for any age range tbh.

Bulky Pee Pants (Tom D.), Thursday, 18 January 2024 14:53 (eleven months ago) link

xp- Covid a factor mebbe?

Ethinically Ambigaus (Bananaman Begins), Thursday, 18 January 2024 14:53 (eleven months ago) link

yeah, thanks UK electorate for belatedly falling out with the tory party, but mostly not falling with their policies and economic model.

― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 18 January 2024 13:40 (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

Yah I wanna give the government a boot for my mortgage going up doesn't mean I care about povs and homelesses, Sir Keir understands that

Ethinically Ambigaus (Bananaman Begins), Thursday, 18 January 2024 14:55 (eleven months ago) link

For those asking the numbers for people over 50 are:

Lab: 35%
Con: 30%
Reform: 18%
LD: 8%
Green: 4%
SNP: 2%

The swing against the Tories is actually bigger for older people. It's just coming from a much higher starting point.

— Sam Freedman (@Samfr) January 18, 2024

This seems quite significant, Labour have a 5 point lead with over 50s, that has to be new

anvil, Thursday, 18 January 2024 15:46 (eleven months ago) link

Never in a million years has support for the Tories been at 10% for the under fifties. I'd surprised if it's ever been that for any age range tbh.

The yougov site is horrible to navigate but I got as far back as August 2022 and the Tories had marginally lower support for the under fifties in that poll than this one. Was that pre-Truss?

anvil, Thursday, 18 January 2024 15:55 (eleven months ago) link

I apologise, I read the figures wrong. Confusingly they have voting intention and who would you vote for tomorrow as different things, with different numbers

jan 2024
18-24 tories 4%
25-49 tories 10%

aug 2022
18-24 tories 6%
25-49 tories 16%

https://d3nkl3psvxxpe9.cloudfront.net/documents/TheTimes_VI_Immigration_Cons_240117_W.pdf

https://d3nkl3psvxxpe9.cloudfront.net/documents/TheTimesVI_220901_W.pdf

anvil, Thursday, 18 January 2024 16:03 (eleven months ago) link

Just before Truss. They were surely even lower after the debacle of her premiership, lettuce and all!

Bulky Pee Pants (Tom D.), Thursday, 18 January 2024 16:07 (eleven months ago) link

I scrolled back as far as September 2020 before giving up. The big drop was between September 2020 and August 2022, though with that being a larger timeframe maybe its just been a consistent continual gradual glide down with no particular drop off point. The yougov site is too painful to engage with any further though

anvil, Thursday, 18 January 2024 16:14 (eleven months ago) link

Imagine voting for this

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GEI5HNXXAAAEycw?format=jpg&name=medium

Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Thursday, 18 January 2024 16:50 (eleven months ago) link

*boke*

Bulky Pee Pants (Tom D.), Thursday, 18 January 2024 16:53 (eleven months ago) link

tbf their both about the size of Action Man

wang mang band (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 18 January 2024 18:14 (eleven months ago) link

also swivel-eyed cunts like Action Man

( X '____' )/ (zappi), Thursday, 18 January 2024 18:16 (eleven months ago) link

Tonight we counted the votes for the Cazenove ward by-election. Ian Sharer was duly elected to represent the residents of Cazenove with 1,623 votes. Turnout was 31.92% More information about the election and result will be available on our website: https://t.co/7XMaiEIbqG pic.twitter.com/khxJxfFbDr

— Hackney Council (@hackneycouncil) January 19, 2024



Lmao how the fuck do you get a Tory elected in this fucking seat

Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Friday, 19 January 2024 01:05 (eleven months ago) link

That’s a rhetorical question

Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Friday, 19 January 2024 01:06 (eleven months ago) link

See what happens when mark s moves out of Hackney?

Bulky Pee Pants (Tom D.), Friday, 19 January 2024 07:10 (eleven months ago) link

oh right this is the one where the Labour candidate was a frothing transphobe

the "one"

wang mang band (Noodle Vague), Friday, 19 January 2024 07:33 (eleven months ago) link

Ah!

Bulky Pee Pants (Tom D.), Friday, 19 January 2024 08:07 (eleven months ago) link

Tory vote up 47.4%!

Bulky Pee Pants (Tom D.), Friday, 19 January 2024 08:10 (eleven months ago) link

How much of this is down to the candidate himself rather than the party? He's been a councillor there for 16 of the last 22 years according to google

anvil, Friday, 19 January 2024 08:19 (eleven months ago) link

a rare Lib Dem turning out to be a Tory

wang mang band (Noodle Vague), Friday, 19 January 2024 09:04 (eleven months ago) link

(xp) Bit of both. Labour's vote down 13%.

Bulky Pee Pants (Tom D.), Friday, 19 January 2024 09:08 (eleven months ago) link

luckily there are no other Labour candidates who are outspoken poisonous bigots so things should be fine going forward

wang mang band (Noodle Vague), Friday, 19 January 2024 09:18 (eleven months ago) link

This is what reporters are up against: Man City and their lawyer Simon Cliff, lobbying government, and the general public (and fans) being told fuck-all about anything the comes of that. Chapeau, Russell. https://t.co/ib3lQNApf6

— Nick Harris (@sportingintel) January 21, 2024

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 21 January 2024 09:21 (eleven months ago) link

(Baroness) Nicky Morgan, "The two state solution has to be one of the only ways out of the current situation."

Er, yeah, thanks for that one.

Bulky Pee Pants (Tom D.), Sunday, 21 January 2024 09:33 (eleven months ago) link

🔴 ROCHDALE: there's speculation that political journalist Paul Waugh - currently with the i paper - could be Starmer's favoured candidate to stand for Labour in forthcoming by-election following death of Tony Lloyd.

— @Tomorrow'sMPs (@tomorrowsmps) January 21, 2024



Every day a new low

Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Sunday, 21 January 2024 22:33 (eleven months ago) link

when your name is paul and you're a political journalist and would give anything to be favoured by the labour party as candidate for an available seat and you hear you haven't even made the list of political journalists called paul who are under consideration RIP

conrad, Sunday, 21 January 2024 22:55 (eleven months ago) link

The depravity continues.

I'm so desensitised to the moral vacuum of politicians that I didn't even clock the object depravity of Lisa Nandy - the former chair of Labour Friends of Palestine - leading a march to support the people exterminating them through genocide. Jesus fucking Christ. https://t.co/78xM66woBt

— Marl Karx (@BareLeft) January 21, 2024

xyzzzz__, Monday, 22 January 2024 08:29 (ten months ago) link

wretched. I hope her dad disowns her and never speaks another word to her!

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 22 January 2024 08:41 (ten months ago) link

I can't really hope in a few short extracts to bring home the power of what Hanan Wahabi - who lost her brother, her sister-in-law and their three children at Grenfell - just said to the representatives of those responsible. But here are a few bits I've transcribed: pic.twitter.com/MCTH0o2qG8

— Peter Apps (@PeteApps) January 24, 2024

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 24 January 2024 21:10 (ten months ago) link

— some anti-Sunak plotters met at the J Sheekey fish restaurant in the heart of theatre land

— Sunak loyalist says they’re less Dominic Cummings, more Alan Cumming

— No10 think they’ve flushed out what they see as rabble of disgruntled right-wing aideshttps://t.co/fPN52TG8yq

— Alex Wickham (@alexwickham) January 27, 2024

"Sunak loyalist says [anti-Sunak plotters] less Dominic Cummings, more Alan Cumming"

at a loss as to what this could possibly mean. The article doesn't provide any further context.

soref, Saturday, 27 January 2024 11:46 (ten months ago) link

I gueeeess they mean they’re not political geniuses but ngl it feels homophobic af

Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Saturday, 27 January 2024 11:48 (ten months ago) link

yeah it must be some kind of "less Karl Marx and more Groucho Marx" type jibe, but but by someone for who has instinctive reactions to Dominic Cummings and Alan Cumming that are wildly different than like 95% of the UK public

soref, Saturday, 27 January 2024 11:56 (ten months ago) link

Is Alan Cumming even very high in the public consciousness in 2024? Just a classic politics nerd out of touch non-joke

wang mang band (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 27 January 2024 12:32 (ten months ago) link

was taken to that restaurant for my birthday about ten years ago, was good

imago, Saturday, 27 January 2024 12:57 (ten months ago) link

Alan Cumming hosts the US Traitors while wearing flashy outfits. Still a baffling line given that people actually like him and he's not a disgraced weirdo

hiroyoshi tins in (Sgt. Biscuits), Saturday, 27 January 2024 13:11 (ten months ago) link

"it's like expecting a glass of champagne and getting a glass of warm piss" - guy who hates drinking champagne and loves drinking warm piss, confusingly

soref, Saturday, 27 January 2024 13:15 (ten months ago) link

Public schoolboy humour.

Bulky Pee Pants (Tom D.), Saturday, 27 January 2024 13:20 (ten months ago) link

My knowledge of Cumming is basically The High Life - oh dear - and I think he's been in some comic book movies

wang mang band (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 27 January 2024 13:35 (ten months ago) link

Sunak's bad but at least we don't have Boris, Cumming, all over the country now.

glumdalclitch, Saturday, 27 January 2024 14:11 (ten months ago) link

Alan Cumming is probably most famous for playing Russian computer geek Boris Grishenko in ‘Goldeneye’ who ends up frozen solid by liquid nitrogen.

Dan Worsley, Saturday, 27 January 2024 15:40 (ten months ago) link

Not in this country

Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Saturday, 27 January 2024 16:25 (ten months ago) link

Most famous film is: X2, should be: Josie and the Pussycats.

"met in theatreland" is the fig leaf there, but yeah it seems homophobic and nonsensical - Dominic Cummings is no-one's idea of a manly man!

Andrew Farrell, Saturday, 27 January 2024 16:36 (ten months ago) link

citing him as the gold standard of machiavellian tory plotters isn't quite right either. He didn't last long in Downing st.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 27 January 2024 16:58 (ten months ago) link

Cummings genuinely hates the Tory Party is key here. doesn't make him a good person

wang mang band (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 27 January 2024 17:26 (ten months ago) link

So he says but he still was prepared to help Sunak win the next election. The guy's a massive fucking liar though, as we know.

Bulky Pee Pants (Tom D.), Saturday, 27 January 2024 20:14 (ten months ago) link

home office granted asylum to rwandan refugees you literally luv 2 see it

Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 28 January 2024 12:15 (ten months ago) link

must have been lied to by the Safety of Rwanda Bill

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 28 January 2024 12:18 (ten months ago) link

Labour MP Kate Osamor has had the whip suspended following her Holocaust Memorial Day post pic.twitter.com/VKinwLQqTe

— John Stevens (@johnestevens) January 28, 2024

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 28 January 2024 19:13 (ten months ago) link

Unreal

Considering that Nandy said Labour supported the defunding of UNRWA, the clown car doesn't know whether the doors have fallen off or not. https://t.co/ENPpX19rbL

— Phil Burton-Cartledge (@philbc3) January 28, 2024

Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Sunday, 28 January 2024 19:26 (ten months ago) link

Lammy to be suspended for this egregious antisemitism

wang mang band (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 28 January 2024 20:01 (ten months ago) link

In 2019, @AngelaRayner met @DALLOULALNEDER when she visited his shop.

She told him: "I support Palestine", "Palestine must be free."

Now she just stands there as he's dragged out her meeting after his family were butchered in a Labour-backed onslaught. pic.twitter.com/UeooLXAiPL

— Owen Jones (@OwenJones84) January 28, 2024

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 28 January 2024 22:45 (ten months ago) link

I saw the horrible video, Rayner not giving a fuck there while someone who holds a pic of his murdered family is frogmarched out by a goon.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 29 January 2024 00:56 (ten months ago) link

His family were killed in Gaza.

As he clutched photos of his dead mother, he was dragged out of this Labour meeting like he was trash.@angelarayner and @jreynoldsMP just stood there.

What an absolutely disgusting spectacle.

I spoke to @DALLOULALNEDER. Please listen to him. pic.twitter.com/CSuJJ2hIcx

— Owen Jones (@OwenJones84) January 28, 2024

Bulky Pee Pants (Tom D.), Monday, 29 January 2024 10:03 (ten months ago) link

hopefully that video will go beyond the twittersphere and come back to haunt Labour when they are campaigning for muslim voters to turn out for them.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 29 January 2024 10:31 (ten months ago) link

It ought to give voters of all backgrounds pause before voting for them, but "get the Tories out" is a great anaesthetic

wang mang band (Noodle Vague), Monday, 29 January 2024 10:39 (ten months ago) link

it's so low stakes I'm more interested in Labour reaping some democratic accountability than getting anybody out.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 29 January 2024 11:12 (ten months ago) link

Lmao

#Breaking Actor-turned-politician Laurence Fox libelled two men when he referred to them as “paedophiles” on social media, a High Court judge has ruled pic.twitter.com/UXLRmqAjUq

— PA Media (@PA) January 29, 2024

Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Monday, 29 January 2024 16:15 (ten months ago) link

Funny how that happens

Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Monday, 29 January 2024 16:16 (ten months ago) link

Did he try the Musk defence ("it was a joooke") but then realised he wasn't rich enough?

nashwan, Monday, 29 January 2024 16:31 (ten months ago) link

"actor-turned-politician"

well I guess he did get more votes than count binface

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 29 January 2024 16:38 (ten months ago) link

Realized he wasn't funny enough.

Bulky Pee Pants (Tom D.), Monday, 29 January 2024 16:40 (ten months ago) link

I bet Lawrence Fox's legal team just loved this part of his testimony. Thumbs up to the witness box. 'More of that kind of thing, Lozza.' pic.twitter.com/um7IJkLVcl

— Elvis Buñuelo (@Mr_Considerate) January 29, 2024

Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Monday, 29 January 2024 16:54 (ten months ago) link

The ol' Ugandan jail argument - it's been a minute!

nashwan, Monday, 29 January 2024 16:56 (ten months ago) link

I've called my grandma in hospital twice over the past couple of days (she's fine: probably home tomorrow) and heard a recorded message telling me that calls to patients through the hospital phone system are charged at 13p a minute. This money goes to Hospedia, a private company.

— Simon (@SimonXIX) January 29, 2024

xyzzzz__, Monday, 29 January 2024 20:53 (ten months ago) link

Hospedia, we meet again. From 2011:


The Conservative cabinet minister's face appears on bedside entertainment systems on a continuous loop saying that their care "really matters to me" and asking them to thank NHS staff.

In some wards with multiple beds, the screens have the effect of a television showroom, reported the Independent.

It was reported that the only way to turn the health secretary's recorded message off, patients first had to register under a system which sees patients charged more than £5 a day to access TV, email and phone services – though those who just want to use the radio do not have to pay when they do so.

Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Monday, 29 January 2024 21:08 (ten months ago) link

A bit of light relief, it seems that a fun little legal precedent has just been set

brutal: it cannot be defamatory to call Laurence Fox a racist since his reputation on the matter is so low it can scarcely be damaged. pic.twitter.com/7ki1j14YZ0

— bat020 (@bat020) January 29, 2024

This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 29 January 2024 23:04 (ten months ago) link

No noooo you don't understand, when he lied about all the other bad pledges to the non-people I knew he would never lie to me about the good pledge

And there we have it pic.twitter.com/4nVWGhKSmD

— j (@jrc1921) January 29, 2024

glumdalclitch, Tuesday, 30 January 2024 01:16 (ten months ago) link

still worth voting for them if you enjoy racism and transphobia and hate ninja swords tho

wang mang band (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 30 January 2024 06:50 (ten months ago) link

take my ninja sword from my cold dead hands you fraudulent cunt, Kieth . lol, my stepdad once got attacked by a guy with a ninja sword at work, the said ninja maniac is now a children's magician known as Chavracadabra.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 30 January 2024 07:16 (ten months ago) link

Labour is the party of business.
 
Former Conservative supporter and Iceland’s Executive Chairman @IcelandRichard agrees 👇 pic.twitter.com/LQr8PGWc9a

— The Labour Party (@UKLabour) January 29, 2024

Labour is the party of business, that why it's called Labour

wang mang band (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 30 January 2024 07:24 (ten months ago) link

that Iceland dickhead needs dropping into a volcano. Well of course such a "does a lot of good work for charidee" one nation tory cunt is going to be a big Kieth stan.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 30 January 2024 07:35 (ten months ago) link

Does anyone have any solid information on what the guarantees and imminent legislation that unlocked Stormont are? I'm not inclined to believe that the DUP would have asked for anything doable, or that the UK government would have considered whether the EU will play ball, if needed.

Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 30 January 2024 08:40 (ten months ago) link

Tee hee, all new old racism in the all new completely non-racist cleansed of all racist sentiments Labour Party

Labour shadow minister: "It is right that people who are in areas where there is a real acute challenge with housing, know that housing does go to people who are born & raised in certain communities"

Not even a dog whistle. Actual racism. pic.twitter.com/mT25nZ6gih

— Saul Staniforth (@SaulStaniforth) January 30, 2024

glumdalclitch, Tuesday, 30 January 2024 12:13 (ten months ago) link

Does anyone have any solid information on what the guarantees and imminent legislation that unlocked Stormont are? I'm not inclined to believe that the DUP would have asked for anything doable, or that the UK government would have considered whether the EU will play ball, if needed.

I'm no nearer to understanding what this is all about than when it started. One thing I do know is that the DUP know there will be an election this year and know that they are in line to take a hiding if if they didn't drop the No Surrender shite.

The British Boy of Film Classification (Tom D.), Tuesday, 30 January 2024 12:53 (ten months ago) link

So grim that I gave Peter Kyle my votes when JC was leader :(

Chewshabadoo, Tuesday, 30 January 2024 15:59 (ten months ago) link

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2024/jan/30/labour-acts-on-fears-muslims-will-not-vote-for-party-over-gaza-stance

Keir Starmer’s office has begun polling British Muslim voters amid growing concern in senior Labour ranks about the damage done to their core vote by the row over the party’s position on the Middle East.

Labour sources have told the Guardian that the party is running polls and holding focus groups around the country after senior officials became concerned they were losing support among one of their staunchest bases of support.

The outreach effort is just one aspect of how the Middle East crisis has transformed the party in the last few months. MPs who care about the issue have established new groups to lobby Starmer, while the leader’s office has been forced to rethink how it communicates with parts of the party who say they have long been ignored.

One senior Labour MP said: “Muslims are not only predominantly Labour supporters but they are also geographically important. There are many of them in a range of key target seats in both the south and the north-west, and we need to pay attention to that.”

blazin' squab (NickB), Tuesday, 30 January 2024 18:10 (ten months ago) link

polls and focus groups! now you know they’re serious

Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 30 January 2024 18:11 (ten months ago) link

i guess ignoring all the dead bodies piling up isn't such great PR after all?

blazin' squab (NickB), Tuesday, 30 January 2024 18:12 (ten months ago) link

they should just expel Muslim voters

wang mang band (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 30 January 2024 18:25 (ten months ago) link

Especially the women.

The British Boy of Film Classification (Tom D.), Tuesday, 30 January 2024 18:27 (ten months ago) link

Comes across so blatantly that they're bothered about losing votes but not about why

fourth world problems (Matt #2), Tuesday, 30 January 2024 18:28 (ten months ago) link

my son's college transport escort is an Asian woman from Batley and she detests Starmer but said she doesn't often bother voting but did vote for Corbz in '19. Also she says her husband who is a dwp employee has said he wont be voting for Labour again and he also detests Starmer. Just adding my own focus group results here.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 30 January 2024 18:36 (ten months ago) link

I’m noticing a lot of local people (not just Muslims) saying Labour can’t rely on their vote, because of broken pledges, Gaza, and not dealing with multiple types of racism. I live in Starmer’s constituency.

steely flan (suzy), Tuesday, 30 January 2024 20:03 (ten months ago) link

unhorse him i say

Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 30 January 2024 21:14 (ten months ago) link

New Tory PM just dropped.

God bless us, every one! https://t.co/rAy6F0MS4P pic.twitter.com/6Y05O5slp2

— Elvis Buñuelo (@Mr_Considerate) January 31, 2024

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 31 January 2024 10:41 (ten months ago) link

A fiercely bright, hard-working boy, who is learning Spanish and Mandarin at school, Hebrew at home, and teaching himself Hindi and Slovak in his spare time

To be fair to the little cunt chap he does say the Campaign Against Anti-Semitism makes everyone they interview look anti-Semitic.

The British Boy of Film Classification (Tom D.), Wednesday, 31 January 2024 10:50 (ten months ago) link

Extremist right-wing white boy child... was born on Christmas day

apologies to Boney M

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 31 January 2024 10:52 (ten months ago) link

"Fiercely bright" euphemism for intensely irritating little know-it-all.

The British Boy of Film Classification (Tom D.), Wednesday, 31 January 2024 10:53 (ten months ago) link

*taps the old sign that reads "little pigs should be seen and not heard"*

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 31 January 2024 11:13 (ten months ago) link

an argument for post-birth abortion

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Wednesday, 31 January 2024 12:27 (ten months ago) link

i’m sorry but this has really cracked me up, everything’s just crumbling isn’t it pic.twitter.com/WBLlXWHIHx

— Dan Douglas (@dandouglas) February 4, 2024

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 4 February 2024 18:29 (ten months ago) link

Ambulolz

available on all good steaming platforms (Matt #2), Sunday, 4 February 2024 19:09 (ten months ago) link

https://www.ambulnz.com/

we're so fucked

wang mang band (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 4 February 2024 19:40 (ten months ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FT-JED8X0AALv-6.jpg:large

soref, Sunday, 4 February 2024 20:06 (ten months ago) link

at this point I'm going to prematurely state that Wes Streeting is probably the worst fucking person in the world to arrest this rampant privatisation already on the go. Or I could just say he is actually one of of the worst people in the world anyway.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 4 February 2024 20:07 (ten months ago) link

I think this is going to get much worse under Labour, if anything

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 4 February 2024 20:11 (ten months ago) link

ding ding ding ding

Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 4 February 2024 20:59 (ten months ago) link

isn't the thing causing long waiting times the time spent unloading at hospitals? more ambulances isn't going to fix that.

koogs, Sunday, 4 February 2024 21:22 (ten months ago) link

it's almost as if Wesley's repeated emphasis on "free at the point of use" is meant to cover up the bit where he mutters "and massive contracts for private profiteers" under his breath

wang mang band (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 4 February 2024 22:21 (ten months ago) link

It is probably going to get progressively worse but the important thing is that 6 months into the new parliament the press are going to go to town on the collapse and non-functionality of the NHS on a way they never did under the tories, and Streeting et al will take this as their signal to go further into the privatization rabbit hole with the media's full complicity. I imagine they've already priced that in tbh, cynical fuckers that they are.

glumdalclitch, Sunday, 4 February 2024 23:18 (ten months ago) link

That suggests some degree of competency and forward planning (even if it’s to make a bad decision), which I just think may be too much for them.

a hoy hoy, Monday, 5 February 2024 07:33 (ten months ago) link

LOL @ Jeffrey Donaldson repeatedly insisting Michelle O'Neill is not the First Minister of Northern Ireland but the Joint First Minister of Northern Ireland. Sorry, SIR Jeffrey Donaldson.

The British Boy of Film Classification (Tom D.), Monday, 5 February 2024 07:50 (ten months ago) link

This is an unsustainable situation.

https://www.theguardian.com/money/2024/feb/05/i-cant-take-it-much-longer-workers-too-young-for-uk-pension

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 6 February 2024 07:50 (ten months ago) link

“I don’t really think this age thing has been thought out fully,” he added.

bless this sweet innocent

wang mang band (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 6 February 2024 07:54 (ten months ago) link

People in middle age tell of difficulties finding suitable work and managing financially

Breaking news from the Guardian.

The British Boy of Film Classification (Tom D.), Tuesday, 6 February 2024 07:56 (ten months ago) link

Bye bye Kwasi Kwarteng, you useless chump.

The British Boy of Film Classification (Tom D.), Tuesday, 6 February 2024 09:54 (ten months ago) link

"Kwasi Kwarteng is the 54th Tory MP to say they are standing down at the next election"

Has a majority of nearly 20k, but I guess he can grift away at some think tank or some boardroom crap.

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 6 February 2024 09:57 (ten months ago) link

Strictly or I'm A Celebrity or gtf.

The British Boy of Film Classification (Tom D.), Tuesday, 6 February 2024 10:10 (ten months ago) link

human centipede or gtfo

memphis milano: the new trend of the 80s (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 6 February 2024 10:37 (ten months ago) link

I mean, the think tank / boardroom grift is usually predicated on you having connections to politicians in government - if everyone hates you because you're about to lose them their seats, it probably doesn't work so well.

In other news, it's the launch of Liz Truss's Popular Conservatives today!

Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 6 February 2024 16:35 (ten months ago) link

Martin McGuinness was styling himself Joint First Minister a decade ago - apparently it was taken up by Jim Allister of TUV (because inflating SF's role allowed him to hate the arrangement more)

Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 6 February 2024 16:40 (ten months ago) link

At PMQs Sunak trots out his usual jibe about Starmer being unable to "define a woman". This after Starmer had mentioned that Brianna Ghey's mother was actually in the Commons gallery watching PMQs.

The British Boy of Film Classification (Tom D.), Wednesday, 7 February 2024 12:33 (ten months ago) link

... I mean, I'm speechless.

The British Boy of Film Classification (Tom D.), Wednesday, 7 February 2024 12:34 (ten months ago) link

i honestly dont get how it can be bad under those circumstances but usually fine, good even

plax (ico), Wednesday, 7 February 2024 14:05 (ten months ago) link

right??! like it’s okay to snicker behind people’s backs but i’m sorry these jokes are unacceptable if they can be reliably attributed

Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 7 February 2024 14:37 (ten months ago) link

but it is true that it’s even more brain-dead this way

Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 7 February 2024 14:37 (ten months ago) link

I don't get it as a gotcha, they want him to say "adult human female"? Then define "female", it's exactly the same deal. Wild that the TERFs use this line of attack when they're the ones going on about large gametes, and we just want to let people live their lives.

This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 7 February 2024 14:43 (ten months ago) link

is it transphobic or not? i was told it was just not denying reality. but seemingly no dissonance at all in the reporting of this outrage. exactly as would be expected but i'm surprised they can even be bothered to raise this current stink. such is the way the press works though i can easily imagine if it was Starmer that was currently out of fashion he would right now be getting absolutely slated for trying to 'politicise' this tragedy and use an emotive story to silence legitimate concerns.

there is nothing to protect any of us from this.

plax (ico), Wednesday, 7 February 2024 14:45 (ten months ago) link

I'd suggest responding, tho it's still somewhat beside the point, with 'your party's less than a quarter women while ours is over half but go off green card' but wouldn't want to be seen as trying to help the wasteman transphobe LOTO ofc

nashwan, Wednesday, 7 February 2024 15:12 (ten months ago) link

I read something a couple of months ago that briefly mentioned the 2005 election. Take with a pinch of salt as completely unverified but Michael Howard wanted a handful of issues "the public is largely with us on", which then went in the manifesto.

The problem being the public did agree with the Conservatives on those issues but not on the importance of those issues

anvil, Wednesday, 7 February 2024 15:45 (ten months ago) link

And I realize I could have just googled

School Discipline
Cleaner Hospitals
Accountability
More Police
Controlled Immigration
Lower Taxes

anvil, Wednesday, 7 February 2024 15:46 (ten months ago) link

Those first three what were they thinking.

anvil, Wednesday, 7 February 2024 15:48 (ten months ago) link

This was truly terrible from Sunak. But let’s not kid ourselves - had Brianna’s mum not been there today, no-one (including Keir Starmer) would have batted an eyelid.
It’s not good enough to stand against transphobia only when the mother of a murdered trans girl might be… https://t.co/2GYHZRevAj

— Nicola Sturgeon (@NicolaSturgeon) February 7, 2024

The British Boy of Film Classification (Tom D.), Wednesday, 7 February 2024 15:51 (ten months ago) link

what were they thinking

lol remember the posters tho

nashwan, Wednesday, 7 February 2024 15:56 (ten months ago) link

sturgeon otm, i fondly remember when she ejected joanna cherry from the snp for her unrepentant transphobia when she was first minister after delivering a stirring speech on her support for trans rights

memphis milano: the new trend of the 80s (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 7 February 2024 15:56 (ten months ago) link

Starmer is such a tawdry, hypocritical piece of shit.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 7 February 2024 18:10 (ten months ago) link

idk i think we should listen to what the man with a party full of unchecked full-voiced transphobes has to say

wang mang band (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 7 February 2024 18:55 (ten months ago) link

not sure that narrows down the party in question tbh

memphis milano: the new trend of the 80s (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 7 February 2024 18:57 (ten months ago) link

Is Galloway going to win?

Lol, very funny. pic.twitter.com/DSMwLcj1wv

— Elvis Buñuelo (@Mr_Considerate) February 11, 2024

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 11 February 2024 22:22 (ten months ago) link

he got 21.9% of the vote in Batley & Spen off the back of a general dissatisfaction with Labour under Kieth from Muslim voters. Kieth has managed to piss them off tenfold since. yeah lol.. lay down tools out of principle, lads

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 11 February 2024 22:37 (ten months ago) link

I am not under any circumstances going to hand it to George Galloway but I am still finding this quite funny

Colonel Poo, Sunday, 11 February 2024 23:32 (ten months ago) link

Is Galloway going to win?

I'd say 50-50. He's currently 2/1, and thats before momentum starts to build

He should definitely outperform what he got in Batley

anvil, Monday, 12 February 2024 03:17 (ten months ago) link

Why is this guy apologizing to the Jewish community, shouldn't he be apologizing to Israel?

The British Boy of Film Classification (Tom D.), Monday, 12 February 2024 09:10 (ten months ago) link

somehow he's found a way to be grossly offensive to the Jewish community and also be derided by his Muslim constituents as a toothless Starmer MP. He's obviously very clever.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 12 February 2024 10:02 (ten months ago) link

Louise Ellman has reacted to Azhar Ali’s remarks by saying that they were out of character for him, and saying that over a long period of time he had been an ally of her when she had been subjected to antisemitic attacks.

She said:

"I have known Azhar for over twenty years and he consistently supported me when I was subjected to antisemitic attacks. He should now have the opportunity to work with the Jewish community to restore the loss of trust his actions have caused."

I know this is naïve, but I'm genuinely surprised at the number of high-profile Corbyn denouncers are coming out to back this guy, even if it's proceeded with some perfunctory hand-wringing. It's like they're trying to prove correct the most cynical interpretations of the Corbyn years.

(it seems bad that this is emboldening people who claim that there's no anti-semitism on the left and the whole thing was invented out of thin air)

soref, Monday, 12 February 2024 10:22 (ten months ago) link

One rule for their friends, another rule for everybody else.

The British Boy of Film Classification (Tom D.), Monday, 12 February 2024 10:26 (ten months ago) link

Almost as if that was the point all along

wang mang band (Noodle Vague), Monday, 12 February 2024 12:43 (ten months ago) link

In his press conference around half an hour after Corbyn's statement, Starmer said that anyone who thought the problems were "exaggerated" or were a "factional attack" were "part of the problem and... should be nowhere near the Labour Party". Corbyn defended his comments in a TV interview later that day; shortly after it aired, the Labour Party announced that it had suspended Corbyn pending an investigation.

I realize he's shameless, but I would like to see Starmer attempt to reconcile the above with the events of the last couple of days.

soref, Monday, 12 February 2024 13:07 (ten months ago) link

These ‘investigations’ never take place. Funny that!

steely flan (suzy), Monday, 12 February 2024 13:19 (ten months ago) link

Breaking: Labour has withdrawn its support for Rochdale candidate Azhar Ali

— Eleni Courea (@elenicourea) February 12, 2024

I would be extremely pissed off right now if I was one of the labour people obliged to awkwardly defend this guy over the past two days lol

soref, Monday, 12 February 2024 19:48 (ten months ago) link

Very funny

xyzzzz__, Monday, 12 February 2024 19:57 (ten months ago) link

the grown-ups are at the wheel

wang mang band (Noodle Vague), Monday, 12 February 2024 21:22 (ten months ago) link

How are they so bad at this?

steely flan (suzy), Monday, 12 February 2024 21:46 (ten months ago) link

* not very bright
* extremely venal
* limited people skills
* all trying to get one over on each other at all times

wang mang band (Noodle Vague), Monday, 12 February 2024 22:27 (ten months ago) link

Truly the Banter Byelection we deserve

This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 12 February 2024 22:28 (ten months ago) link

So if I have this right the choices now for the good folk of Rochdale are:

- conspiracy theorist clown who won't even retain the Labour whip if he wins
- ex-Labour sex offender standing for a far-right party
- George Galloway
- some Tory or other

Popcorn time!

the most powerful man in cornish politics (Matt #2), Monday, 12 February 2024 22:33 (ten months ago) link

Isn’t there a Monster Raving Loony Party candidate at least?

Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Monday, 12 February 2024 22:43 (ten months ago) link

There is! The BBC have thoughtfully put up profiles of all the candidates, even the no-hopers

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-68250468

This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 12 February 2024 22:57 (ten months ago) link

Monster Raving Loonies need to either fuck off or at the very least get some new jokes

This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 12 February 2024 22:58 (ten months ago) link

*even the no-hopers"......

wang mang band (Noodle Vague), Monday, 12 February 2024 22:59 (ten months ago) link

By gum there's some vanity cases on that list. Isn't it 10 grand down the drain now just to get your race in the local paper?

wang mang band (Noodle Vague), Monday, 12 February 2024 23:02 (ten months ago) link

Face in the local paper, fucking phone

Altho this is Rochdale so

wang mang band (Noodle Vague), Monday, 12 February 2024 23:03 (ten months ago) link

Even in the company of other no-hopers, this man is notable in his hopelessness - https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p0hbfg19

This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 12 February 2024 23:04 (ten months ago) link

Coleman! Coleman! Coleman! He might be a clown but he’s not a ghoul or a cunt (according to the one second I spent reading his profile).

Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Monday, 12 February 2024 23:08 (ten months ago) link

Galloway 8/15 and Labour out to 6/4

So, technically the other guy is still down as Labour because too late to change? Interesting its not made that much difference to the odds

anvil, Monday, 12 February 2024 23:25 (ten months ago) link

Galloway was 5/2 when I checked earlier this evening, things done changed !

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 12 February 2024 23:31 (ten months ago) link

A change in odds but not a massive change, Labour still potentially in this, even if they don't want to be (or maybe they do who knows, do they really want Galloway in Parliament again)

anvil, Monday, 12 February 2024 23:35 (ten months ago) link

5/2 to 8/15 is a massive swing!

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 12 February 2024 23:46 (ten months ago) link

I'd thought Labour might get pushed out much further than 6/4. I guess it still might change, difficult to know how much of an impact "withdrawing support" actually has if it still says LAB next to the guys name, all the leaflets already sent out, posters up

anvil, Tuesday, 13 February 2024 00:06 (ten months ago) link

Though that might show up over the next week or so if odds change further

anvil, Tuesday, 13 February 2024 00:07 (ten months ago) link

get Kieth out there so the good people of the Dale can at least have no regrets for their bad voting choices!

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 13 February 2024 00:17 (ten months ago) link

oh no they don't send Kieth out to SOS disaster byelections any more, he's a big guy these days.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 13 February 2024 00:25 (ten months ago) link

I would be extremely pissed off right now if I was one of the labour people obliged to awkwardly defend this guy over the past two days lol

Good. Pat McFadden especially can get tae fuck.

The British Boy of Film Classification (Tom D.), Tuesday, 13 February 2024 08:06 (ten months ago) link

Just reading his Wiki page that he's from Paisley and his family were originally from Falcarragh, he's not the only person I know of from Paisley whose family were originally from Falcarragh!

The British Boy of Film Classification (Tom D.), Tuesday, 13 February 2024 08:09 (ten months ago) link

had first election leaflet through door this morning. rishi has halved inflation - it was 10% last january but was only 4.6% in november. so that's good.

also
VICTORY WITH NEW PCSO FOR LANCASTER GATE
Our part of Westminster has secured a new extra Police COmmunity Support Officer (PCSO)

one (1) extra PCSO. and that's second in the list of acheivements.

also blames sadiq khan for closing the structurally unsound hammersmith bridge

koogs, Tuesday, 13 February 2024 11:19 (ten months ago) link

based on the bbc article my vote is for the just stop oil vicar (disclaimer this is based on quickly skimming this rogues gallery alone)

plax (ico), Tuesday, 13 February 2024 11:24 (ten months ago) link

I'd vote for grifter george then disinfect my hands and say a few hail marys, every loss for the labour party is a spark of faint hope.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 13 February 2024 11:43 (ten months ago) link

problem with grifter george is that he's going to be the prime pro-palestine voice in parliament now, which will mean we'll be easily portrayed as george's bag of wingnuts

This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 13 February 2024 12:08 (ten months ago) link

Galloway‘s a cunt, and he’s a protest vote. Any pretending otherwise on either account is agenda pushing.

Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Tuesday, 13 February 2024 12:12 (ten months ago) link

yes that doesn't mean that that agenda won't be convincing to people with greater trust in liberal media, largely united in pushing that agenda. If i'm reading CAAL this will be another stick to beat left/Palestine supporting voices, a conflation that enables a set of subsequent smears.

plax (ico), Tuesday, 13 February 2024 12:24 (ten months ago) link

that's what I mean, yeah. he'll be wheeled out as our community leader for the next few months.

This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 13 February 2024 12:26 (ten months ago) link

then when we complain about this embarrassing cunt being the only left wing voice on QT or whatever "oh the left are always infighting" etc.

This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 13 February 2024 12:34 (ten months ago) link

Media can invent these things because the left isn't much of a threat.

The moment the left does become one again -- might be a while -- Galloway would be marginal.

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 13 February 2024 12:39 (ten months ago) link

Looks like two members of the same family are running?

As if Rochdale has not suffered enough!

Look at this candidate list : two men already junked by their parties, two usual suspects, an ex-MP suspended for sexting, a businessman who 'doesn't know much about politics'... pic.twitter.com/UmuRbcChPE

— Laura Cumming (@LauraCummingArt) February 13, 2024

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 13 February 2024 12:41 (ten months ago) link

Only one thing for it. Vote Tory and have Starmer shitting himself.

The British Boy of Film Classification (Tom D.), Tuesday, 13 February 2024 12:47 (ten months ago) link

I have it on good authority he regularly shits himself anyway

wang mang band (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 13 February 2024 12:51 (ten months ago) link

so that's why they call him Leaky Kieth

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 13 February 2024 13:00 (ten months ago) link

Not sure how common an all-men list is for a by-election but lads come on it's weird.

nashwan, Tuesday, 13 February 2024 13:13 (ten months ago) link

Oooh, leaky Keith, where did you go what have you seen

steely flan (suzy), Tuesday, 13 February 2024 13:34 (ten months ago) link

lol

nashwan, Tuesday, 13 February 2024 13:47 (ten months ago) link

most infuriating thing I've read this week, still a handy list once the revolution comes I guess

https://www.politico.eu/article/britain-uk-westminster-power-couple-2024-ranking/

This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 15 February 2024 14:43 (ten months ago) link

33. Isabel Hardman and John Woodcock

c’mon man

memphis milano: the new trend of the 80s (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 15 February 2024 15:29 (ten months ago) link

I really don't understand the level of denialism on the hole the UK finds itself it. GDP is a huge 24% below its pre-fin crisis trend - that's £23,000 per household. pic.twitter.com/nnYL0pvYoh

— Torsten Bell (@TorstenBell) February 15, 2024

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 15 February 2024 16:27 (ten months ago) link

Labour have and can throw EVERYTHING into By-Elections. Come a full on GE, they’ll notice where the hard working activists have gone when they’re spread so thin.

+ 107 should be a worry, not a cause for celebration

🤡 pic.twitter.com/zW6hCkPpl0

— Pål’s Houthinanny 🇵🇸 (@KS4P45V2) February 16, 2024

This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 16 February 2024 10:04 (ten months ago) link

Bring on a hung parliament

xyzzzz__, Friday, 16 February 2024 10:11 (ten months ago) link

Bring on the Rochdale by-election.

The British Boy of Film Classification (Tom D.), Friday, 16 February 2024 10:14 (ten months ago) link

Damien Egan said 14 years of Conservative governments had "sucked the hope out of our country"

every time I see Starmer & Reeves doing Labour messaging it feels like another 14 years of having hope sucked out of you, plus boot stamping on yr face

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 16 February 2024 10:16 (ten months ago) link

"The voters of [insert name of constituency when the sitting MP has either died or disgraced themselves and which will revert to their party come the next General Election] have sent a clear message to Downing Street..."

Repeat ad infinitum

The British Boy of Film Classification (Tom D.), Friday, 16 February 2024 10:23 (ten months ago) link

great, some dead-eyed unprincipled weasels wearing red rosettes have won a couple of by-elections. I'll bake a cake.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 16 February 2024 10:36 (ten months ago) link

Egan's husband is ex IDF and working as a global IDF recruiter, so safe to he's part of Labour's friends of genocide clique.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 16 February 2024 11:05 (ten months ago) link

Am I reading that right? the swing in Wellingborough is purely down to Conservatives staying home? Almost no votes going to Labour at all?

anvil, Friday, 16 February 2024 12:06 (ten months ago) link

Conservatives to get most seats 7/1
Conservatives overall majority 14/1

If so, "to get most seats" looks really good right now, 7/1 with only two possible outcomes

anvil, Friday, 16 February 2024 12:10 (ten months ago) link

Yes, just checked, more people voted Conservative in 2019 than voted for all parties combined in 2024, big turnout drop. I'm not sure how common that is for by-elections though

anvil, Friday, 16 February 2024 12:16 (ten months ago) link

It's low but not shockingly so - I had a quick look at the by-elections in the 2015-2017 parliament, the drop runs from 20% (Copeland) to 59% (Batley and Spen, the Jo Cox replacement) - 41% for Wellingborough is about middle of the pack - 49% for Kingswood would be second-worse though.

Andrew Farrell, Friday, 16 February 2024 13:44 (ten months ago) link

profiles in courage pt 98273

Labour has called for “an immediate humanitarian ceasefire” in Gaza for the first time in an attempt to head off what threatens to be the biggest rebellion against Keir Starmer since he became party leader.

Opposition whips published a 237-word amendment to a Scottish National party motion on Tuesday setting out the party’s stance on the Middle East crisis, which they hope Labour MPs will back instead of a separate amendment from the SNP calling more bluntly for an immediate ceasefire.

The Labour wording goes further than the party has in the past in calling for a ceasefire. Last weekend, Starmer said he wanted the fighting to “stop now”, but he has been reluctant to back an immediate and permanent ceasefire given that Hamas has threatened to carry out further attacks like the one on 7 October.

While the amendment backs a “humanitarian ceasefire”, it clarifies that it does not want Israel to stop fighting as long as Hamas continues to threaten violence.

memphis milano: the new trend of the 80s (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 20 February 2024 18:19 (ten months ago) link

"Can I shock you...I love ceasefires." partridge.jpg

nashwan, Tuesday, 20 February 2024 18:22 (ten months ago) link

🚨 Confirmed: Labour is whipping its MPs to *abstain* on the SNP motion if it can't amend it. https://t.co/M8477Qja30

— Emilio Casalicchio (@e_casalicchio) February 20, 2024

Wouldn't be surprised if this is what ends up happening because absolutely everything about the Labour Party is a confidence trick

glumdalclitch, Tuesday, 20 February 2024 18:32 (ten months ago) link

unbelievably grim

memphis milano: the new trend of the 80s (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 20 February 2024 18:36 (ten months ago) link

Israel are killing as many people every 4 or 5 days as died in the hamas attack, eat shit keir starmer

Bernard Quidbins (NickB), Tuesday, 20 February 2024 19:02 (ten months ago) link

what surprised me was people i assumed were reasonably smart falling for Kieth's "call for a ceasefire" bit in the first place

wang mang band (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 20 February 2024 19:36 (ten months ago) link

Semantic hairs split down to the root in equivocating between a cessation of fighting and a ceasefire, these things are vastly important to the electorate of course

kieth flett (Matt #2), Tuesday, 20 February 2024 19:38 (ten months ago) link

Yes, bait n switch is now baked into every single public statement, policy announcement, etc

UPDATE I understand Keir Starmer will order his MPs to vote against the SNP’s motion calling for a Gaza ceasefire for the reason I explain below (he hates the SNP’s charge that Israel is engaging in the collective punishment of Palestinians). He knows many of his MPs will rebel… https://t.co/vY1zwPCKOq

— Robert Peston (@Peston) February 20, 2024

Our director of strategy Luke Akehurst

glumdalclitch, Tuesday, 20 February 2024 19:39 (ten months ago) link

Really told on myself there by saying "our". Something in my Reptilian brain still adheres to the Labour party

glumdalclitch, Tuesday, 20 February 2024 19:48 (ten months ago) link

The reptile bit

Ethinically Ambigaus (Bananaman Begins), Tuesday, 20 February 2024 22:06 (ten months ago) link

Keir Starmer was beaten up as teenager trying to defend gay friend, book reveals https://t.co/5NguE6M5Ba

— The Guardian (@guardian) February 21, 2024

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 21 February 2024 15:44 (ten months ago) link

you know that bit in 8 mile when eminem chides that other rapper for being homophobic?

Left, Wednesday, 21 February 2024 15:55 (ten months ago) link

anyway my first thought was "not hard enough" because I'm a monster

Left, Wednesday, 21 February 2024 15:56 (ten months ago) link

Source: Trust me bro

anvil, Wednesday, 21 February 2024 16:04 (ten months ago) link

I mean boys will be boys something along those lines could easily have happened but so what

a bullied kid aligning himself with the bigger bullies makes enough sense to me as a psychological explanation - not that that's the angle he's going for by (presumably) telling the guardian to highlight this bit

Left, Wednesday, 21 February 2024 16:08 (ten months ago) link

the bit about him getting a good shoeing once could well be true!

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 16:16 (ten months ago) link

In the book, Keir Starmer: The Biography, Starmer adds: “When I’m told how ‘things were better in the old days’, people forget about the ways Britain has become less cruel and less full of hate. We can all take some pride in that.”

"i'm doing my part to ensure that britain remains steadfast at its current level of cruelty and hatred by refusing to defend trans rights"

memphis milano: the new trend of the 80s (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 16:20 (ten months ago) link

it's curious that as far as I know this has never been mentioned by Starmer before, there was nothing about it in the Eagleton book either. And he's not exactly a reticent kind of politician when it comes to opportunities for spinning himself as a good guy.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 16:25 (ten months ago) link

speaking of spinning himself as a good guy, check out the tone of the author describing starmer's angry reaction to his niece being subjected to a homophobic attack

“Starmer’s anger over what happened to his niece, and – despite his best efforts with the police – the failure to prosecute those responsible, is an emotion you rarely see from him in public,” Baldwin writes. “For my part, I think the argument made casually by a lot of people these days that he stands for nothing is well wide of the mark.”

fuck that, i wanna see kieth go full death wish on the perps

memphis milano: the new trend of the 80s (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 16:29 (ten months ago) link

the argument that he stands for nothing is well wide of the mark because he didn't like it when his niece was physically assaulted

well i'm convinced lads, he's a man of strongly-held principles after all

memphis milano: the new trend of the 80s (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 16:30 (ten months ago) link

it puts a completely different light on his right-wing authoritarian cop tendencies and all the vile stuff he did while he was DPP.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 16:38 (ten months ago) link

Do you know that Keir Starmer once told McDonalds to go away *swoon*

glumdalclitch, Wednesday, 21 February 2024 16:40 (ten months ago) link

His principled refusal to learn how to copy and paste.

Chewshabadoo, Wednesday, 21 February 2024 16:41 (ten months ago) link

the highlight of McLibel, well the only clip of it I've watched tbh, revealed that Kieth didn't know how to use floppy discs and created a low level hostile work environment by talking to his staff like they were shit.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 16:46 (ten months ago) link

i'm waiting for "Starmer used to drink 20 pints a day" reveal

wang mang band (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 17:23 (ten months ago) link

probably best to avoid that line in case he reminds people of the time he decked a deliveroo rider with his car after enjoying a deliciously refreshing non-alcoholic beverage at a nearby pub

memphis milano: the new trend of the 80s (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 17:35 (ten months ago) link

that's his tough stance on the gig economy i reckon

wang mang band (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 17:38 (ten months ago) link

what on earth is the need for a big fuckoff SUV when you live in North London other than just making the pissed up arsehole driving it have an inflated sense of superiority . I hate everything about this guy.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 18:14 (ten months ago) link

So it seems like Lindsay Hoyle has rewritten the Commons rules, against advice, to save Starmer's bacon. Get rid of the biased cunt.

The British Boy of Film Classification (Tom D.), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 19:29 (ten months ago) link

there needs to be more protection for MPs, it's unacceptable that they receive death threats from members of the, um, Labour Party

wang mang band (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 20:09 (ten months ago) link

Corbyn 4 Speaker

nashwan, Wednesday, 21 February 2024 20:14 (ten months ago) link

nm he likes being an actual MP too much

nashwan, Wednesday, 21 February 2024 20:20 (ten months ago) link

Can anyone do a tldr on what happened with hoyle today and why i should care? feels like dropping into a shit soap opera.

This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 22 February 2024 00:02 (nine months ago) link

I think basically Starmer, acting like a gangster PM elect, threatened ArseHoyle's future speakership if he didn't break with standard parliamentary procedures to protect his ass from a Labour rebellion. The kind of lawless behaviour FBPEs had no truck with when Boris Johnson did it. Probably a poor summary but I don't really gaf what goes on these days.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 22 February 2024 00:24 (nine months ago) link

This seems like a pretty succinct summary

To clarify, Labour masterminded a parliamentary manoeuvre to avoid a vote on an awkward SNP motion and then instead of owning that they’ve blamed protestors, thus prompting a new moral panic about politically active muslims?

— Michael Walker (@michaeljswalker) February 22, 2024

soref, Thursday, 22 February 2024 01:44 (nine months ago) link

Labour's message to us?

We will not act as an Opposition nor will we let anyone else act as an Opposition.

There will be no opposition. Fuck you all.

— Priyamvada Gopal © (@PriyamvadaGopal) February 21, 2024

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 22 February 2024 09:25 (nine months ago) link

Also a pretty succinct summary

wang mang band (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 22 February 2024 09:48 (nine months ago) link

Just the other day I was slightly surprised to find Starmer seemingly on the right side of history on the Operation Spanner Wiki page:

There was immediate criticism of the investigation and trial in 1990, with the Gay London Policing Group describing the sentences as "outrageous" and Andrew Puddephat, general secretary of Liberty, calling for a "right to privacy enshrined in law".[52] Keir Starmer said the judiciary had "effectively imposed its morality on others" and argued the "unrepresentative make-up of the judiciary makes it ill-equipped to do this".[63] The Pink Paper branded the case a homophobic "show trial" designed to "get a clear ruling on the illegality of S&M sex, especially amongst gay men".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Spanner

Ward Fowler, Thursday, 22 February 2024 09:53 (nine months ago) link

Michael Martin resigned after 22 MPs expressed no confidence in him, Hoyle is up to 53 (and counting)

The British Boy of Film Classification (Tom D.), Thursday, 22 February 2024 10:12 (nine months ago) link

... just gone up to 54!

The British Boy of Film Classification (Tom D.), Thursday, 22 February 2024 10:12 (nine months ago) link

Well no worries, he's got the full support of (checks notes)

Lindsay Hoyle has been an exemplary Speaker the best I have known he is always fair & even-handed & has taken the most active role in the care & support of all Members he should be thanked & supported.

— Barry Sheerman MP (@BarrySheerman) February 21, 2024

This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 22 February 2024 10:25 (nine months ago) link

calzino's pal

The British Boy of Film Classification (Tom D.), Thursday, 22 February 2024 10:40 (nine months ago) link

Extremely good and tenable position for a speaker to be in, all parties but one calling on him to resign and the other party saying he's great what's the problem lol

Ethinically Ambigaus (Bananaman Begins), Thursday, 22 February 2024 10:53 (nine months ago) link

I'm always hearing that Starmer's a reluctant leader who's only doing it out of a sense of duty etc, he sure doesn't act like it! Proper shakedown. Anyway good to hear the UK political class are so earnestly concerned about the situation in Gaza they're prepared to put aside ideological differences to propose a ceasefire motion that Israel won't care about.

kieth flett (Matt #2), Thursday, 22 February 2024 11:19 (nine months ago) link

love to see our leaders fighting viciously over exactly what form of doing absolutely nothing they will adopt

memphis milano: the new trend of the 80s (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 22 February 2024 11:26 (nine months ago) link

heh, the moral support from a doddering relic of the Labour Right who announced he was stepping down 2 years ago (to the unanimous applause of his constituents) will be a huge boost for Speaker Arsehoyle. Which has reminded me that Frank Field is still alive, or was he ever alive?

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 22 February 2024 12:17 (nine months ago) link

She claims that at least Jeremy Corbyn, the previous Labour leader, genuinely believed in his positon on Gaza. She claims Keir Starmer was not sincere in his position, and that this shows he is not fit to lead.

Penny Mordaunt otm

kieth flett (Matt #2), Thursday, 22 February 2024 12:21 (nine months ago) link

a bold stance to take less than 24 hours after starmer's biographer assured us that he is in fact a man who believes in many things, eg his niece being beaten up is bad not good

memphis milano: the new trend of the 80s (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 22 February 2024 12:24 (nine months ago) link

Starmer categorically denies threatening the Speaker. I think we can take that as a confession then.

The British Boy of Film Classification (Tom D.), Thursday, 22 February 2024 12:52 (nine months ago) link

Hoyle is now saying he did it because he wanted to protect MPs from possible repercussions, I assume from evil Muslims, after the vote. Sack the cunt.

The British Boy of Film Classification (Tom D.), Thursday, 22 February 2024 13:07 (nine months ago) link

god forbid mp's should vote on anything difficult or consequential eh? what kind of argument is that? these fucking pricks.

oscar bravo, Thursday, 22 February 2024 13:45 (nine months ago) link

I remember when Corbyn looking at an MP the wrong way was enough to draw cries of authoritarianism, but this shit with the votes is fine. Great preview of the next government, can’t wait.

Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Thursday, 22 February 2024 14:05 (nine months ago) link

I have lost count of the number or times you have told me, "the door is over there". I don’t think you realise how disrespectful and intimidating this is to me as a Black woman on the Left. Or perhaps you do. 5/6 pic.twitter.com/6MxhbVEXht

— Bell Ribeiro-Addy MP (@BellRibeiroAddy) February 23, 2024

this guy seems like a total prick and should stop tweeting, but it's weird to see left-wing twitter go all-in on describing this as harassment when they've spent the last few days warning against conflating harassment with criticism of MPs. What definition of harassment would you come up with that includes this guy but doesn't include e.g. someone tweeting repeatedly at an MP who's a spokesperson for Labour Friends of Israel or something? (and yeah, I know part of the issue is later is seized on as a threat to democracy and the former gets quietly ignored, but is there any principal here except that it's bad when it happens to people you like and good when it happens to people you dislike?)

soref, Friday, 23 February 2024 19:41 (nine months ago) link

piling onto a racist Starmer supporting prick is fine, no tedious self-reflection is required here imo.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 23 February 2024 19:54 (nine months ago) link

"worst general election result in the history of our glorious democracy" is strangely reluctant to question what it means when Starmer inevitably gets significantly less votes than Corbyn at the next GE

Morris O’Shea Salazar (Noodle Vague), Friday, 23 February 2024 19:58 (nine months ago) link

he will get less votes than Corbyn did and do better, these cunts would be happy with the lowest turnout of the postwar era as long as they win. At the time Prof D Edgerton pointed out that the goal of of democratic parties should be to get the support and votes of as many of the voting population as they can, and on that metric Corbyn's worst ever election had a larger popular vote than Blair's last winning election.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 23 February 2024 20:15 (nine months ago) link

well exackly. and this raises a shitload of questions on what the "winning is everything" camp want and believe, but they are questions that they're strangely incoherent on or refuse to answer

Morris O’Shea Salazar (Noodle Vague), Friday, 23 February 2024 20:17 (nine months ago) link

So there is actually a Legal Immigration Minister and an Illegal Immigration Minister. The latter wants locking up in that case.

The British Boy of Film Classification (Tom D.), Tuesday, 27 February 2024 11:03 (nine months ago) link

But are there two Shadow Immigration Ministers as well?

doleful lundgren (Matt #2), Tuesday, 27 February 2024 11:20 (nine months ago) link

The vote share stuff seems largely to be a factor of if the Liberal Democrats are a factor or not but in raw numbers both Corbyn and May did pretty well in 2017 on relatively high turnout (highest of any of the post 1997 elections)

Turnout is pretty interesting, huge drop off in 2001 at 59%, first time below 70%. Has recovered back above 60 since then but never 70. 1951 the highest at 83%

anvil, Tuesday, 27 February 2024 11:30 (nine months ago) link

Lol. Shadow Illegal Immigration minister is like WaLuigi, the inversion of an inversion

Ethinically Ambigaus (Bananaman Begins), Tuesday, 27 February 2024 12:47 (nine months ago) link

https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2024/feb/23/charlotte-benton-obituary

Read this obit with some sadness. The life, opportunities that are now being denied.

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 27 February 2024 19:06 (nine months ago) link

Illegal Immigration Minister get's paid cash-in-hand and arrives late for work every signing on day and is commiting housing benefit fraud, human rights obligations? fuck that shit as well!

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 27 February 2024 20:07 (nine months ago) link

The market is working

Absolutely devastating stat for the government today: in the 12 months to 30 Sep 2023, more people were made homeless than bought their first home.

164,630 households owed a homelessness relief duty by their council
126,100 households claimed First Time Buyer Stamp Duty Relief

— Dan Wilson Craw 🇺🇦🥑🏘 (@danwilsoncraw) February 29, 2024

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 29 February 2024 13:13 (nine months ago) link

Devastating stat for the government, I'm sure they've mandated mourning dress

Ethinically Ambigaus (Bananaman Begins), Thursday, 29 February 2024 13:17 (nine months ago) link

Lol

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 29 February 2024 20:16 (nine months ago) link

GEORGE GALLOWAY HAS DIFFERENT CAMPAIGN LETTERS FOR WHITE AND MUSLIM HOUSEHOLDS IN ROCHDALE 😭😭😭😭😭😭 pic.twitter.com/swSsfQxf2t

— saad 🇬🇧 ⸆⸉ (@crowndefensx) February 29, 2024

symsymsym, Friday, 1 March 2024 02:08 (nine months ago) link

Father-of-six George Galloway in!

doleful lundgren (Matt #2), Friday, 1 March 2024 03:07 (nine months ago) link

did I really see a video of Liz Truss describing Galloway as a "hardcore Islamist" to Bannon in front of a crowd of braying US white supremacists - have no idea what is real any more. Might have even dreamt it.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 1 March 2024 05:55 (nine months ago) link

Hardcore opportunist more like

Still, lol Labour

Morris O’Shea Salazar (Noodle Vague), Friday, 1 March 2024 07:04 (nine months ago) link

Congratulations to <checks notes> Elvis Costello

Andrew Farrell, Friday, 1 March 2024 08:42 (nine months ago) link

Rochdale got me thinking about how Leadbeater is on borrowed time and somehow I missed that Batley & Spen is getting split into two new constituencies, now it will be Batley + Dewsbury and Spen Valley. "After months of “soul searching” Ms Leadbeater" i.e. blatant career self-interest she decided that the rather more white Spen Valley is where she will be standing at the next GE.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 1 March 2024 08:43 (nine months ago) link

LOLbour in fourth place, even the Tories beat them. Reform 6th, even the Lib Dems beat them.

The British Boy of Film Classification (Tom D.), Friday, 1 March 2024 09:18 (nine months ago) link

I'm calling it "the worst by-election result for Labour since the 1930's" even if it isn't.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 1 March 2024 09:24 (nine months ago) link

George Galloway won by appealing to disaffected white voters as well as Muslim ones – sharp on-the-ground analysis by @Anoosh_C. https://t.co/pCnk5Jfull

— George Eaton (@georgeeaton) March 1, 2024

Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Friday, 1 March 2024 09:33 (nine months ago) link

In Rochdale, he used anti-woke talking points, and spoke about tackling grooming gangs: a racially tense aspect of the town’s recent history.

Useful to be reminded what a prick he is while so annoyingly OTM about one big issue.

nashwan, Friday, 1 March 2024 09:51 (nine months ago) link

Pretty sure he’s a terf as well

Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Friday, 1 March 2024 10:10 (nine months ago) link

He's vile, that's for sure.

The British Boy of Film Classification (Tom D.), Friday, 1 March 2024 10:13 (nine months ago) link

he's an opportunist + a bigoted piece of shit, but when I said this to an Asian woman this morning I think she took it that I was saying this as a Labour supporter. Didn't have time to explain I'm not polarised on this matter, lol

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 1 March 2024 10:15 (nine months ago) link

Truly. At least Danczuk finished last despite all the free media attention he was getting 🙄

Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Friday, 1 March 2024 10:16 (nine months ago) link

"He is, but are they so different?"

anvil, Friday, 1 March 2024 10:26 (nine months ago) link

xp to calzino

anvil, Friday, 1 March 2024 10:26 (nine months ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D7VdbReWsAYG4De?format=jpg&name=medium

I wonder if Bannon is aware that he has previously met this "radical Islamic party" candidate that Liz Truss told him about.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 1 March 2024 10:42 (nine months ago) link

Do hope there are better people with pro-Palestinian positions who are going to be MPs.

They should be voted for.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 1 March 2024 10:51 (nine months ago) link

dining with a hat on? i dodn't think my opinion of him could get any lower.

fetter, Friday, 1 March 2024 11:04 (nine months ago) link

dining with a bannon? i dodn't think my opinion of him could get any lower.

The British Boy of Film Classification (Tom D.), Friday, 1 March 2024 11:22 (nine months ago) link

Pretty sure he’s a terf as well

Yeah, if you look at those different election leaflets (which to be clear I'm not recommending), it's "the first thing you should know about me is, I'm a TERF"

Andrew Farrell, Friday, 1 March 2024 12:09 (nine months ago) link

more focussed on the TE bit than the RF I would say

Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Friday, 1 March 2024 12:12 (nine months ago) link

not that any TERF is particularly interested in feminism of course

Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Friday, 1 March 2024 12:13 (nine months ago) link

I don't think Galloway believes in anything except Galloway but he's obviously happy to jump on the transphobia train if he thinks it'll win him a vote. Utter scumbag

Morris O’Shea Salazar (Noodle Vague), Friday, 1 March 2024 12:16 (nine months ago) link

On the Galloway thing: He will enjoy this morning. But in a few months, he will return to the political obscurity which he so richly deserves.

— Ian Dunt (@IanDunt) March 1, 2024

Love this confidence

glumdalclitch, Friday, 1 March 2024 14:45 (nine months ago) link

What was that definition of liberals? Incapacity to learn?

glumdalclitch, Friday, 1 March 2024 14:46 (nine months ago) link

that dunty tweet all but guarantees gorgeous george will be pm by 2028

memphis milano: the new trend of the 80s (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 1 March 2024 15:18 (nine months ago) link

So he and Dunt will have something in common at last.

The British Boy of Film Classification (Tom D.), Friday, 1 March 2024 15:21 (nine months ago) link

if ever there was a misnomer it's Gorgeous George, it's enough to make me vomit just knowing that he has copulated with an unfortunate female at least 6 times in his life

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 1 March 2024 15:33 (nine months ago) link

I'm almost certain it was Galloway himself who came up with that nickname. Why he hasn't been #metoo-ed yet I don't know.

The British Boy of Film Classification (Tom D.), Friday, 1 March 2024 15:37 (nine months ago) link

Man carries a gun

Morris O’Shea Salazar (Noodle Vague), Friday, 1 March 2024 17:20 (nine months ago) link

Sadly oddschecker doesnt have specific odds on Rochdale in the general (yet?)

anvil, Friday, 1 March 2024 17:24 (nine months ago) link

tho with it being so close I'd assume he has a pretty good chance of holding it, difficult to see what would change between now and a general election to precipitate a change

anvil, Friday, 1 March 2024 17:26 (nine months ago) link

Parliament passing a law making it illegal to use the word "Palestine"?

Morris O’Shea Salazar (Noodle Vague), Friday, 1 March 2024 18:19 (nine months ago) link

Wtf??

Bernard Quidbins (NickB), Friday, 1 March 2024 18:59 (nine months ago) link

For serious?

Bernard Quidbins (NickB), Friday, 1 March 2024 18:59 (nine months ago) link

Oh right, I see our unelected and corrupt prime minister made a speech on threats to our democracy, nice one rish

Bernard Quidbins (NickB), Friday, 1 March 2024 19:02 (nine months ago) link

No, but throwing foreigners with visas out of the UK if they dare protest anything here seems to be on the cards. Great news!

steely flan (suzy), Friday, 1 March 2024 19:02 (nine months ago) link

Has starmer agreed on that yet?

Bernard Quidbins (NickB), Friday, 1 March 2024 19:04 (nine months ago) link

How about now?

Bernard Quidbins (NickB), Friday, 1 March 2024 19:05 (nine months ago) link

Has anyone actually explained how these "Islamic extremists" are a threat to our democracy? Or even just told us who they are? Are there hundreds of thousands of them? Where are they based? Are they going to blow us all up? Maybe they have dirty bombs (remember those?) And so on.

The British Boy of Film Classification (Tom D.), Friday, 1 March 2024 19:14 (nine months ago) link

lol, is that thinktank unstuck in time and trapped in 2005. More chance of a Muslim buying a Starbucks coffee than voting Labour where I live, but this isn't a new problem for them - it's an old one that has been exasperated to breaking point by Kieth and pals.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 1 March 2024 20:39 (nine months ago) link

Afaict apart from the brief Corbyn period - which also featured him not sacking Sarah Champion for this shit, so you know - Labour has treated Muslim voters with a mixture of overt contempt and embarrassment. Literally the only thing that’s previously saved them from widespread desertion is the fact that the Tories have been hammering the white supremacy button for a long time now.

Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Friday, 1 March 2024 20:44 (nine months ago) link

Some of us have been wondering for years if they would ever learn from what happened with working class voters in Scotland but... still waiting!

The British Boy of Film Classification (Tom D.), Friday, 1 March 2024 21:02 (nine months ago) link

Sorry lads my post was a satirical answer to the post before, but not far now

Morris O’Shea Salazar (Noodle Vague), Friday, 1 March 2024 21:23 (nine months ago) link

Well I think Rachel Reeves looks great. pic.twitter.com/5UVh2f69YT

— Elvis Buñuelo (@Mr_Considerate) March 2, 2024

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 3 March 2024 12:13 (nine months ago) link

lol i made my own

this new Rachel Reeves shoot goes hard pic.twitter.com/mNJxxAXaE9

— broke back molar (@AckAckGunz) March 3, 2024

Morris O’Shea Salazar (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 3 March 2024 12:30 (nine months ago) link

👌

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 3 March 2024 12:34 (nine months ago) link

The person who called her Mystic Smeg was OTM.

steely flan (suzy), Sunday, 3 March 2024 14:05 (nine months ago) link

Progress a bit slow on Andrew Bridgen's wife's GoFundMe

GoFundMe: Please help us to recover from heartbraking tragedy

As you can read in my interview with @thetimes by @cazjwheeler , my husband, the MP Andrew Bridgen, left me and our young son homeless just in time for Christmas. My sister came to my rescue and put down a year’s… pic.twitter.com/KIMt3zEbXp

— Nevena Bridgen (@NevenaBridgen) March 3, 2024

Alba, Sunday, 3 March 2024 18:27 (nine months ago) link

My favourite is the anons who are chucking in a fiver. Respect

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 3 March 2024 19:15 (nine months ago) link

anyone offering her a sofa to kip on?

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 3 March 2024 20:14 (nine months ago) link

oh her sister has. Probably not a sofa, more like I've got a spare flat in Bayswater.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 3 March 2024 20:18 (nine months ago) link

£315 so far!

Mark G, Sunday, 3 March 2024 21:15 (nine months ago) link

so, overnight this has raised to ... £335

Mark G, Monday, 4 March 2024 11:54 (nine months ago) link

My sister came to my rescue and put down a year’s rent on a flat so we could remain living in London.

also, please give me 150 grand because my husband is a wrongun kthxbye

memphis milano: the new trend of the 80s (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 4 March 2024 12:13 (nine months ago) link

Get intae 'um!

The British Boy of Film Classification (Tom D.), Monday, 4 March 2024 16:41 (nine months ago) link

Ah, the "find out" stage

Morris O’Shea Salazar (Noodle Vague), Monday, 4 March 2024 16:54 (nine months ago) link

Given the shit that's been talked about Corbyn on all sorts of media non stop for years I'm surprised it's taken him this long to sue anyone.

The British Boy of Film Classification (Tom D.), Monday, 4 March 2024 17:09 (nine months ago) link

he sued Ben Bradley for libel and hasn't there been a couple more? I forget

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 4 March 2024 17:12 (nine months ago) link

Should have sued Simon Heffer

Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Monday, 4 March 2024 17:25 (nine months ago) link

Obviously we all hate Galloway but this is kind of hilarious.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2024/mar/04/george-galloway-sworn-in-as-rochdale-mp-after-byelection-victory

man in suit and red tie raising his fist (Tom D.), Monday, 4 March 2024 19:41 (nine months ago) link

I do find the idea of this ridiculous grifter giving sleepless nights to Labour MPs with slim majorities funny as fuck. But jfc I only just learned Chris Williamson is a deputy leader of his party (´ཀ`」

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 4 March 2024 19:52 (nine months ago) link

Jfc

Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Monday, 4 March 2024 19:54 (nine months ago) link

Yes he popped up (from under a rock) during the by-election, saw him interviewed at the count.

man in suit and red tie raising his fist (Tom D.), Monday, 4 March 2024 20:01 (nine months ago) link

i saw a picture but it was Chris Williamson so i didn't actually read what he was saying

Morris O’Shea Salazar (Noodle Vague), Monday, 4 March 2024 20:08 (nine months ago) link

Things are hotting up out there

https://www.wokingnewsandmail.co.uk/tindle-static/image/2024/03/05/12/43/HuntGraffiti.jpg

help me I am in hull (Matt #2), Tuesday, 5 March 2024 23:52 (nine months ago) link

Graffiti in a more professional typeface than the sign

This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 5 March 2024 23:54 (nine months ago) link

THE TORIES, THE

nashwan, Tuesday, 5 March 2024 23:57 (nine months ago) link

almost seems like misdirection to single out the Tories as they key scum targets who deserve to die these days.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 6 March 2024 00:05 (nine months ago) link

If you correctly include nearly all Labour MPs in the category of "tories" then it's fair

This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 6 March 2024 00:15 (nine months ago) link

👍

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 6 March 2024 00:28 (nine months ago) link

That's pretty wild for Farnham

Bernard Quidbins (NickB), Wednesday, 6 March 2024 06:44 (nine months ago) link

How the culprit snuck up in corduroy trousers is anyone's guess

Bernard Quidbins (NickB), Wednesday, 6 March 2024 06:46 (nine months ago) link

Hunt is exactly the kind of bloke who'd have done this himself for a bit of attention

Morris O’Shea Salazar (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 6 March 2024 07:16 (nine months ago) link

OK.

London’s Canary Wharf is getting a levelling up fund allocation of £242m for extra housing… it has been impacted by the exit of some major banks in recent months…

— Faisal Islam (@faisalislam) March 6, 2024

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 6 March 2024 16:28 (nine months ago) link

Stick that up yer Red Wall.

man in suit and red tie raising his fist (Tom D.), Wednesday, 6 March 2024 16:34 (nine months ago) link

Stick that up yer Red Wall.

man in suit and red tie raising his fist (Tom D.), Wednesday, 6 March 2024 16:34 (nine months ago) link

🔴MID SUSSEX (Lab target 204): I hear that Dave Rowntree of the rock band Blur has been picked as candidate for this seat.

— @Tomorrow'sMPs (@tomorrowsmps) March 6, 2024

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 6 March 2024 20:36 (nine months ago) link

I'd definitely be voting Tory if I lived there, it's important for UK democracy that members of Blur are driven out of politics.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 6 March 2024 20:41 (nine months ago) link

Haywards Heath eh? Historically that's Suede territory

Bernard Quidbins (NickB), Wednesday, 6 March 2024 21:00 (nine months ago) link

one of the guys from Gomez is standing for Labour in Brighton Pavilion

soref, Wednesday, 6 March 2024 21:04 (nine months ago) link

Starmer Labour is the ultimate wanker-magnet

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 6 March 2024 21:09 (nine months ago) link

Oh blimey thats my constituency, euchh

Bernard Quidbins (NickB), Wednesday, 6 March 2024 21:13 (nine months ago) link

Labour recruiting PPCs directly via the line-up bit on Never Mind The Buzzcocks

soref, Wednesday, 6 March 2024 21:23 (nine months ago) link

what are the odds on the drummer from gay dad being the next home secretary?

Bernard Quidbins (NickB), Wednesday, 6 March 2024 21:25 (nine months ago) link

https://cdn.recordcollectormag.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/G.jpg

He’s ready

cozen itt (wins), Wednesday, 6 March 2024 21:32 (nine months ago) link

Looking like the lovechild of Neil Young and Norman lamont

Bernard Quidbins (NickB), Wednesday, 6 March 2024 21:36 (nine months ago) link

Gaz's outspoken views on lebensraum may be too much even for Kieth & Co

Morris O’Shea Salazar (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 6 March 2024 22:12 (nine months ago) link

Kieth just got the nod from Bannon. "I have always been impressed with Sir Kith Starmer's intelligent and pragmatic approach to enabling uk fascism." Just made that up, but did I really?

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 6 March 2024 22:30 (nine months ago) link

Far-right Trump strategist Steve Bannon states he has 'always been very impressed' by Starmer pic.twitter.com/UHnUF5hlaY

— j (@jrc1921) March 6, 2024

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 6 March 2024 22:34 (nine months ago) link

that time when he refused to endorse Biden in 2021 has won him credibility with *checks notes* the Putin funded hard right of the Gop. But he's also supposed to be a lapdog to the US military industrial complex. He's a really incompetent political operator, whatever else you think about him.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 6 March 2024 22:44 (nine months ago) link

Fuck these media idiots for giving Bannon the time of day (noticed he was on Peston a few weeks back also). Just pathetic.

nashwan, Wednesday, 6 March 2024 22:46 (nine months ago) link

😭😭😭

Oh Shit!! We’re FAMOUS! The FLTG struck a nerve! You all gotta read this… F this clown 🤡 https://t.co/uix7KLdh8n

— ICE T (@FINALLEVEL) March 6, 2024

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 6 March 2024 22:56 (nine months ago) link

Landill Labour

man in suit and red tie raising his fist (Tom D.), Wednesday, 6 March 2024 23:06 (nine months ago) link

Astounding work from the TBEU lads

This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 6 March 2024 23:18 (nine months ago) link

absolutely perfect job!

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 6 March 2024 23:23 (nine months ago) link

oh my god

Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 7 March 2024 08:39 (nine months ago) link

starmer only *checks notes* 30 years out of date with this trenchant commentary. i’d suggest he get in touch with tipper gore for strategy tips

Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 7 March 2024 08:40 (nine months ago) link

90's PMRC talking points are back baby! He's coming for Twisted Sister next.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 7 March 2024 09:00 (nine months ago) link

i can’tbelieve this isn’t a joke

Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 7 March 2024 09:06 (nine months ago) link

there was swearing! SWEARING!

Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 7 March 2024 09:06 (nine months ago) link

I literally thought it was some TBEU joke that had somehow got Ice T's attention last night

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 7 March 2024 09:08 (nine months ago) link

ah soz you’re right i think it is a bit

Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 7 March 2024 09:42 (nine months ago) link

Is it really real?!

Kraal Disorientation Chamber (emsworth), Thursday, 7 March 2024 09:42 (nine months ago) link

Surely it can’t be

Kraal Disorientation Chamber (emsworth), Thursday, 7 March 2024 09:43 (nine months ago) link

Women 4 Wes is a TBEU account

This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 7 March 2024 09:44 (nine months ago) link

it's still fun spending an hour believing it's real!

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 7 March 2024 09:45 (nine months ago) link

It is spiritually true, nobody can deny that

Kraal Disorientation Chamber (emsworth), Thursday, 7 March 2024 09:50 (nine months ago) link

that's the thing, when the parody is spiritually true, it doesn't matter how absurd or fictional it is.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 7 March 2024 09:53 (nine months ago) link

That's right

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 7 March 2024 10:26 (nine months ago) link

Playing Keef 'Cop Killer' is the youtube reaction video we need

nashwan, Thursday, 7 March 2024 10:36 (nine months ago) link

Signing Ice-T up for our new acronym when we get a Labour Government.

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 7 March 2024 11:37 (nine months ago) link

this is good but I wish TBEU had started a fight with BTS and Blackpink fans

glumdalclitch, Thursday, 7 March 2024 12:09 (nine months ago) link

That's... unlikely.

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 7 March 2024 18:42 (nine months ago) link

So let me get this straight. It marks one out as a paragon of virtue and good grace and is particularly noteworthy when you forgo a redundancy payment of £16000 for a job that you held for approx 36 hrs? And the country should be grateful for this act of benevolence?

oscar bravo, Thursday, 7 March 2024 22:32 (nine months ago) link

As their feud grows, rapper Ice-T is currently liking comments on Instagram which accuse Labour leader Keir Starmer of being a paedophile, enabling Jimmy Savile, sabotaging Jeremy Corbyn’s leadership at the behest of the Israel lobby, and having “[dropped] N bombs in private”. pic.twitter.com/GYOF6ncieo

— Women for Wes (@Women4Wes) March 7, 2024

xyzzzz__, Friday, 8 March 2024 00:00 (nine months ago) link

🤣🤣🤣

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 8 March 2024 00:48 (nine months ago) link

they are killing it

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 8 March 2024 00:54 (nine months ago) link

Glorious.

man in suit and red tie raising his fist (Tom D.), Friday, 8 March 2024 07:22 (nine months ago) link

Presumably also going to be a candidate somewhere other than Ashfield. Maybe Barnsley East or whatever it will be.

nashwan, Monday, 11 March 2024 11:20 (nine months ago) link

Why not Ashfield? He's forever boasting about everybody there agrees with everything he says, especially men in pubs.

man in suit and red tie raising his fist (Tom D.), Monday, 11 March 2024 12:12 (nine months ago) link

This cunt selfowns more than most

Anderson he says his parents, who are both nearly 80, said they would not vote for him unless he joined Reform UK. He says he must not let them down.

nashwan, Monday, 11 March 2024 13:45 (nine months ago) link

I'm wondering what colour his face will be come the election, every time I see him it seems more and more purple.

man in suit and red tie raising his fist (Tom D.), Monday, 11 March 2024 13:50 (nine months ago) link

Anderson is a stooge designed to take hear from the Tories and I wouldn't be surprised if he has a plan of this kind with some Tory election guru. Similar to the deal with Farage's last party to stand down in 2019. It's all such a pathetic, transparent pantomime.

glumdalclitch, Monday, 11 March 2024 13:59 (nine months ago) link

*heat, deal rather than plan

glumdalclitch, Monday, 11 March 2024 14:21 (nine months ago) link

That could very well be the case.

man in suit and red tie raising his fist (Tom D.), Monday, 11 March 2024 14:32 (nine months ago) link

but what if it was black people?!

EXCL: The Conservative party’s biggest donor said looking at Diane Abbott makes you “want to hate all black women” and the MP “should be shot” - by ⁦@rowenamason⁩ ⁦@matthew_weaver⁩ ⁦@Direthoughtshttps://t.co/nMrwLFJcUa

— Pippa Crerar (@PippaCrerar) March 11, 2024

Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Monday, 11 March 2024 16:26 (nine months ago) link

Statement regarding recent media reports:

Frank Hester accepts that he was rude about Diane Abbot in a private meeting several years ago but his criticism had nothing to do with her gender nor colour of skin. The Guardian is right when it quotes Frank saying he abhors racism, not least because he experienced it as the child of Irish immigrants in the 1970’s. He rang Diane Abbott twice today to try to apologise directly for the hurt he has caused her, and is deeply sorry for his remarks. He wishes to make it clear that he regards racism as a poison which has no place in public life.

https://i.imgur.com/iAYqIGK.png

soref, Tuesday, 12 March 2024 11:31 (nine months ago) link

What an absolute piece of shit

Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Tuesday, 12 March 2024 11:35 (nine months ago) link

And Diane has been a trailblazer, she has paved the way for others, she’s probably faced more abuse than any other politician over the years on a sustained basis.

Guess who?

help me I am in hull (Matt #2), Tuesday, 12 March 2024 11:41 (nine months ago) link

The arsehole who stole the whip off her?

steely flan (suzy), Tuesday, 12 March 2024 11:42 (nine months ago) link

Time to rerun that An Awful Shower Altogether poll.

man in suit and red tie raising his fist (Tom D.), Tuesday, 12 March 2024 11:42 (nine months ago) link

A new spin on "some of my best friends are..."

He’s an international businessman, he travels widely overseas - he does a lot of a business in Jamacia, he does business in Malaysia, in Bangladesh - so he’s not a racist.

man in suit and red tie raising his fist (Tom D.), Tuesday, 12 March 2024 14:06 (nine months ago) link

Chris Mason
Political editor

A shake of the head from Diane Abbott as the Speaker calls the final question - indicating she will not be called.

The Commons has had an extensive conversation about Abbott, without hearing from the Independent MP herself — despite her clear desire to speak.

As PMQs finishes, both Stephen Flynn, the SNP Westminster leader, and Keir Starmer have gone to the back of the chamber to talk to her, as have a succession of Labour backbenchers.

nashwan, Wednesday, 13 March 2024 12:47 (nine months ago) link

Couldn't have her speak over this important business

Tory MP Sir Edward Leigh asks the PM whether he agrees that there is only one party that has "the will, the inclination and the determination to stop mass illegal and legal migration - and that is the Conservative Party!"

"Let's unite our movement and do that!" he exclaims to loud cheers.

Rishi Sunak responds by saying he agrees with Leigh, and attacks the Labour Party saying that Keir Starmer would scrap an immigration policy "even when it was implemented and working".

nashwan, Wednesday, 13 March 2024 12:48 (nine months ago) link

Semi-sentient Toby Jug "Sir" Edward Leigh

Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Wednesday, 13 March 2024 12:58 (nine months ago) link

to give him his full title

Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Wednesday, 13 March 2024 12:58 (nine months ago) link

Sounds about right

Its obvious why. Labour have treated her as badly as any tory donor. That is an entire report by a KC about starmer's party's racism, and it specifically mentions the treatment of Diane Abbot.

Allowing her to talk would lead to embarrassment for starmer, so it was prevented.

— vob (@voblat) March 13, 2024

glumdalclitch, Wednesday, 13 March 2024 13:32 (nine months ago) link

I just voted in a poll on the Express website in order to see the results! Research purposes only in other words.

Here are the results:

Should the Tories give Frank Hester's donations back after racist remarks?
Yes 17%
No 82%
Don't know 1%

help me I am in hull (Matt #2), Wednesday, 13 March 2024 15:28 (nine months ago) link

This is true. https://t.co/tKWS1LgvGi

— Diane Abbott MP (@HackneyAbbott) March 13, 2024

This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 13 March 2024 15:29 (nine months ago) link

Readers of the Express strike me as people who aspire to one day being allowed to read the Mail

This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 13 March 2024 15:30 (nine months ago) link

Keir Starmer taking shots at Ice T? What's next - are we gonna see Pete Buttigieg, Bernie Sanders, or Joe Biden go nuclear on Wiley or Kano? "'Ps and Qs' is a threat to democracy, which is slipping, that's slipping..."

Front-loaded albums are musical gerrymandering (Prefecture), Friday, 15 March 2024 03:01 (nine months ago) link

It's fake.

man in suit and red tie raising his fist (Tom D.), Friday, 15 March 2024 07:16 (nine months ago) link

the stuff about him being a racist, Jimmy Savile enabling drunkard is true enough, though.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 15 March 2024 07:24 (nine months ago) link

Drunkard? That's new!

man in suit and red tie raising his fist (Tom D.), Friday, 15 March 2024 08:08 (nine months ago) link

it's not new, he's got the raddled complexion and a track record of mowing down delivery people and fleeing the scene

Morris O’Shea Salazar (Noodle Vague), Friday, 15 March 2024 08:10 (nine months ago) link

He’s put on at least 20 lbs since the leadership contest and it’s all beer and red wine.

steely flan (suzy), Friday, 15 March 2024 10:13 (nine months ago) link

Being a boozed up tub of lard is his only redeemable feature tbf

man in suit and red tie raising his fist (Tom D.), Friday, 15 March 2024 10:18 (nine months ago) link

He is shockingly bad at the farage 'real man in the boozer' thing though.

a hoy hoy, Friday, 15 March 2024 10:19 (nine months ago) link

His local is a nice pub but it’s probably a bit less nice when Keir and half a dozen Special Branch are in there.

steely flan (suzy), Friday, 15 March 2024 10:24 (nine months ago) link

speaking as a boozed up tub of lard i agree with Tom

Morris O’Shea Salazar (Noodle Vague), Friday, 15 March 2024 10:27 (nine months ago) link

absolutely devastating blow to sunak's credibility here, his credibility cannot be reclaimed after this

🐔🐔🐔 pic.twitter.com/qaP3aF1avq

— Jonathan Ashworth (@JonAshworth) March 15, 2024

memphis milano: the new trend of the 80s (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 15 March 2024 16:03 (nine months ago) link

rare w for rishi on this one

devvvine, Friday, 15 March 2024 16:15 (nine months ago) link

Money well spent there, Labour Party.

man in suit and red tie raising his fist (Tom D.), Friday, 15 March 2024 16:25 (nine months ago) link

I'd feel embarrassed for them if I didn't vehemently despise them so much.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 15 March 2024 17:22 (nine months ago) link

this is him here

Guess where I was this morning 🐔 https://t.co/BPPhqn7kDG pic.twitter.com/r3ezHrN7gD

— Lewis Warner (@thelewiswarner) March 15, 2024

devvvine, Friday, 15 March 2024 18:03 (nine months ago) link

oh it's a Labour Students/Young Labour type creature who is behind the mask, maybe the next Wes Streeting.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 15 March 2024 20:07 (nine months ago) link

it's not often you see so many people with no mates all lined up like that

Morris O’Shea Salazar (Noodle Vague), Friday, 15 March 2024 20:19 (nine months ago) link

Who are these people and what do they actually believe in?

man in suit and red tie raising his fist (Tom D.), Friday, 15 March 2024 21:22 (nine months ago) link

they believe that a Labour government would be a good thing, so obv not people with any kind of principles or political convictions at all.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 15 March 2024 22:04 (nine months ago) link

The Chief culture writer at The Guardian has predictably low standards for language:

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/mar/15/labour-leader-arts-keir-starmer-background-culture

"He spoke about playing the flute in his childhood – of all the effete-sounding instruments! – and talked about the arts as something enriching, personal, transformational. “Everyone here will know that feeling,” he said. “Of losing yourself, and finding something new in that space art creates. These encounters with art and culture change us for ever. They certainly changed me for ever.”"

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 16 March 2024 07:42 (nine months ago) link

When not only reversing austerity, but showing the merest hint of ambition for the people, is a fantasy.

"Rayner, of course, had been Corbyn’s shadow education secretary; the James Joyce-loving former Labour leader actually did have an arts strategy, however much of a fantasy, with its promise to increase funding for the arts to European levels, some may consider it now."

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 16 March 2024 07:44 (nine months ago) link

The vibes consent machine is in full gear now, it's only gonna get more nauseating until the election

Morris O’Shea Salazar (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 16 March 2024 07:51 (nine months ago) link

Like spraying air freshener over a dog turd

Morris O’Shea Salazar (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 16 March 2024 07:52 (nine months ago) link

of all the effete-sounding instruments


Actually made me feel sorry for Starmer reading this aside

Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Saturday, 16 March 2024 07:56 (nine months ago) link

it's a pretty eyebrow-raising thing to say for a "culture writer"

Morris O’Shea Salazar (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 16 March 2024 08:03 (nine months ago) link

I think an arts or culture journalist should also be au fait with popular forms of expression and Chig really isn’t. I would’ve liked to see what a Miranda Sawyer take on this would be, since she’s married to a character actor, has been a Turner Prize judge, and would’ve mentioned the PPCs coming from various pop groups at the very least.

steely flan (suzy), Saturday, 16 March 2024 09:16 (nine months ago) link

Kieth loves football grass, flutes and ethnic cleansing. One hell of a combo

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 16 March 2024 11:10 (nine months ago) link

I bet the little shit has never heard of raahsan roland kirk

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 16 March 2024 11:26 (nine months ago) link

Did you know that Hitler could paint a bit?

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 16 March 2024 11:35 (nine months ago) link

that was a fun moment a few weeks back when alt-fash twitter tried to make out that hitler was a brilliant artist, actually.

This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 16 March 2024 11:44 (nine months ago) link

you'd have have to take that argument to its logical conclusion and ask why is there no Ashley Jackson retrospective at MOMA, another brilliant artist

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 16 March 2024 11:50 (nine months ago) link

This was: bad. We should: <message ends>

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2024/mar/18/gb-news-breached-impartiality-rules-says-ofcom-but-will-face-no-sanctions

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 18 March 2024 11:23 (nine months ago) link

Good to see "Sir" Ed Davey getting hammered over the Post Office scandal on Sky this morning. I hope there's more of that to come for the cunt.

Tom D (the first British Asian ILXor) (Tom D.), Wednesday, 20 March 2024 10:17 (nine months ago) link

Isn’t he the Lib Dem leader for the GE? That’s going to go well.

Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Wednesday, 20 March 2024 10:22 (nine months ago) link

Yes. I feel like we haven't heard anything at all from the Lib Dems for about 2 years - which I'm sure is deliberate on their part - but he's going to have to stick his head above the parapet this year. Load rifles.

Tom D (the first British Asian ILXor) (Tom D.), Wednesday, 20 March 2024 10:25 (nine months ago) link

both main parties are in such a deathly and stagnant state and are led by universally despised morons. And the LibDems are saddled with this useless arsehole and wont be able take any political advantage from this at all.. it's just like thethickofit lol

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 20 March 2024 10:28 (nine months ago) link

It feels like everyone who wants to be the Lib Dem leader has been at this point

hiroyoshi tins in (Sgt. Biscuits), Wednesday, 20 March 2024 10:30 (nine months ago) link

on the flipside, had their 2020 election gone the other way I'd probably be quietly supporting them cos I actually quite like Layla Moran, so at least we've dodged that one

imago, Wednesday, 20 March 2024 10:31 (nine months ago) link

she really is in the wrong gig though

imago, Wednesday, 20 March 2024 10:31 (nine months ago) link

They're trailing behind Reform in the polls but as long as they can nibble away at some Tory seats in the Home Counties they're happy. Worthless shower.

Tom D (the first British Asian ILXor) (Tom D.), Wednesday, 20 March 2024 10:37 (nine months ago) link

Lib Dem strategy will be "shut up and take the disaffected Tory votes" I guess

Morris O’Shea Salazar (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 20 March 2024 10:37 (nine months ago) link

It's all they've got with this numpty they've got leading them.

Tom D (the first British Asian ILXor) (Tom D.), Wednesday, 20 March 2024 10:39 (nine months ago) link

Moran would have made like Kennedy and pushed them substantially to the left of Labour at least, but yeah, that is the strategy under Davey, it's craven

imago, Wednesday, 20 March 2024 10:39 (nine months ago) link

Despite my fondness for Charlie they were never exactly substantially left under his leadership.

Tom D (the first British Asian ILXor) (Tom D.), Wednesday, 20 March 2024 10:42 (nine months ago) link

no, it's relative sure, they weren't exactly challenging thatcherite economic consensus, but the foreign policy was at least not labour's

imago, Wednesday, 20 March 2024 10:44 (nine months ago) link

they will never be so bold to have distinctly LibDem policies (skills packets lol, cancel brexit lol) again after that fit of hubris in 2019 ended up unseating their leader. In two recent by-elections the LibDem candidates lost their deposits, they don't even seem to be able to mop up disaffected tory voters at the moment.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 20 March 2024 10:54 (nine months ago) link

Shostakovich and The Smiths : the Starmer hinterland less trodden

From today’s Timeshttps://t.co/iHR11S1moO pic.twitter.com/Fyciuy5xMr

— Patrick Maguire (@patrickkmaguire) March 22, 2024

xyzzzz__, Friday, 22 March 2024 13:03 (eight months ago) link

If Starmer plays the flute during the campaign I might vote Lab

xyzzzz__, Friday, 22 March 2024 13:05 (eight months ago) link

I Swear, I Really Wanted to make a “Lab” Manifesto But This Is The Way The Wind Blew Me This Time

cozen itt (wins), Friday, 22 March 2024 13:16 (eight months ago) link

Neolibs should not be allowed to like staunchly communist Shostakovich. Hate the way he's been coopted by them

glumdalclitch, Friday, 22 March 2024 13:49 (eight months ago) link

kinda sad that nike didn't actually design a 'woke' england kit. maybe with 'reparations now' printed on the back instead of a players name. starmer unsurprisingly wants it changed back and equally unsurprisingly seems to have made not a peep about the fucking thing costing £120 for a kids size.

oscar bravo, Friday, 22 March 2024 13:59 (eight months ago) link

imagine a flute stamping on a human face forever

Bernard Quidbins (NickB), Friday, 22 March 2024 14:43 (eight months ago) link

Woke:
Broke:

Chewshabadoo, Friday, 22 March 2024 14:43 (eight months ago) link

he actually did mention the price fwiw

Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Friday, 22 March 2024 14:44 (eight months ago) link

i stand corrected

oscar bravo, Friday, 22 March 2024 14:45 (eight months ago) link

To understand Starmer "look to Jamaica"

xyzzzz__, Friday, 22 March 2024 14:50 (eight months ago) link

He just makes policies for himself and if anybody else likes them that's a miracle

Morris O’Shea Salazar (Noodle Vague), Friday, 22 March 2024 16:42 (eight months ago) link

I could actually imagine a horribly weird and vile paedophile like Heath having strong feelings and heightened emotions about music, couldn't imagine Starmer feeling anything about anything.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 22 March 2024 23:14 (eight months ago) link

Of course Starmer's sister makes her own England shirt to wear to the ballgame

nashwan, Friday, 22 March 2024 23:25 (eight months ago) link

"It is a unifier. It doesn't need to be changed. We just need to be proud of it."

well how about publically burning it - if you detest it and everything it represents. That would also be a unifier.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 22 March 2024 23:42 (eight months ago) link

listened to OJ's leaving Labour upload, he is right about Reeves' economically illiterate hard-right ideas (that they can somehow fund tax cuts/make savings/grow the economy by cruelly targeting disabled ppl and benefits) not working for Gideon and closer to Trussenomics than even the current UK Tory govt is. Which makes me think even if you are in a constituency with one of the *nice* SCG MP's - voting pro-genocide transphobic Labour has become an untenable position because of at least how dangerous and deranged they are going to be in govt.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 23 March 2024 08:26 (eight months ago) link

(xp) Trying and failing to imagine a Scottish politician saying the same thing about the Scottish flag.

Tom D (the first British Asian ILXor) (Tom D.), Saturday, 23 March 2024 08:54 (eight months ago) link

i was talking to a lad last night who's a stereotypical "b-b-b-b-but the Tories" guy and i didn't even have it it me to laugh, he sincerely thinks any cunt in a red tie is gonna be an improvement

Morris O’Shea Salazar (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 23 March 2024 10:23 (eight months ago) link

xp the ones who feel like that largely feel it about the Union Jack, imo

Andrew Farrell, Saturday, 23 March 2024 10:30 (eight months ago) link

if you have feeling about flags get tae fuck is how i break it down to an extent

Morris O’Shea Salazar (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 23 March 2024 10:33 (eight months ago) link

(xp) Yes, but at least they couldn't get away with claiming it's a unifier.

Tom D (the first British Asian ILXor) (Tom D.), Saturday, 23 March 2024 10:35 (eight months ago) link

Well now

Since October 2022 I have stayed silent, seeking to right the wrong done to me and the people of Ilford. I want to be absolutely clear - the Anonyvoter system was used to deselect me, rigged to change the result against the wishes of my local Labour Party. https://t.co/YrnibwloRZ

— Sam Tarry MP (@SamTarry) March 23, 2024

Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Saturday, 23 March 2024 11:01 (eight months ago) link

Access the article here if you don’t subscribe: https://t.co/DqpET0qAqI

— Sam Tarry MP (@SamTarry) March 23, 2024

lmao @ using the telegraph as a platform and immediately bypassing their paywall

Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Saturday, 23 March 2024 11:02 (eight months ago) link

i was going to point out to Sam that he could always leave this shit party but he's blocking replies

Morris O’Shea Salazar (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 23 March 2024 11:03 (eight months ago) link

How many government agencies can we use to hound the sick to death

JobCentres will be made to work with the NHS under Labour plans to get the long-term sick back to work

Liz Kendall tells me Sir Keir Starmer's missions will fail if she can't deal with economic inactivity, saying it's "critical" to Labour govt planshttps://t.co/ymjlQ51pI6

— Chris Smyth (@Smyth_Chris) March 24, 2024

xyzzzz__, Monday, 25 March 2024 11:25 (eight months ago) link

Problem is, a huge amount of these people will be long Covid sufferers so what then?

steely flan (suzy), Monday, 25 March 2024 11:40 (eight months ago) link

she's really up for some hardcore dwp corporate homicide on the disabled. 100 000 disabled ppl die - a statistic. One of these scumbags get's murdered - we never hear the last of it.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 25 March 2024 11:41 (eight months ago) link

xp

I believe the gov.uk website with advice and signposting on long Covid is being taken down in April, so there's the level of concern

Bitchin Doutai (Noodle Vague), Monday, 25 March 2024 13:12 (eight months ago) link

even the most exploitative/ruthless employers are not going to benefit much from workers who are constantly fatigued and experiencing regular brain fog and dealing with serious pain issues. But let's just attack anyone who needs to access benefits, just to show how tough we are.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 25 March 2024 13:59 (eight months ago) link

Oh aye, that's one of the most fucked up aspects - I doubt any employer is pushing for this, it's not for their benefit

Bitchin Doutai (Noodle Vague), Monday, 25 March 2024 15:22 (eight months ago) link

*The Day Today voice* Iain Duncan Smith has said he was impersonated by a pro-China “wolf warrior” and has called for the country to be labelled a threat to UK security.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 25 March 2024 18:58 (eight months ago) link

https://cdn4.whatculture.com/images/2015/05/bOGtpvwV-600x338.gif

mark s, Monday, 25 March 2024 19:03 (eight months ago) link

The former Tory leader said on Monday that the “wolf warrior”, a term used for combative proponents of the Chinese government, had impersonated him and sent emails to politicians around the world suggesting he had changed his views about Beijing had just spent the happiest day of his life jerking off over bronie porn

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 25 March 2024 19:17 (eight months ago) link

come on you wolves

Bitchin Doutai (Noodle Vague), Monday, 25 March 2024 19:40 (eight months ago) link

A wolf in a much shittier wolf's clothing

nashwan, Monday, 25 March 2024 20:01 (eight months ago) link

Stephen Bush on Sunak:

While it is easy to find Tories willing to say publicly that Sunak’s government is too far to the left, it is hard to find anyone who will give voice to the truth: that it is in fact further to the right than Johnson’s, just as Truss’s was, and this is part of why the Conservatives are now doing less well electorally than they once did.

Some MPs and aides will say this in private — but they are outnumbered by those who think that Sunak is some kind of moderate and that the Johnson era shows that radicalism can be electorally effective. That delusion means that when the Tories lose the next election, the contest to replace him as Conservative leader will be predicated on the idea that he lost because he was too moderate, too centrist and too close to the middle ground of British politics. The reality that he has moved the Tory party further from the centre, and therefore closer to defeat, won’t be allowed to intrude.

why are so many tories convinced that Sunak is a centrist despite all the evidence to the contrary? Some of it must just be racism - though the same people generally don't seem to have the same delusion about Priti Patel or Suella Braverman - but maybe that just shows you have to engage in flamboyant panto villain posturing to convince these people that you're actually a right-winger?

soref, Tuesday, 26 March 2024 06:43 (eight months ago) link

maybe it's just that Sunak gives off Tony Blair Nick Clegg type liberal centrist vibes despite being to Johnson's right on policy, and that's what matters most? Or just that he's had the misfortune to become leader when the party is circling the drain, and a lot of tories response solution to any problem will always be moving further to the right, regardless of circumstances?

soref, Tuesday, 26 March 2024 06:46 (eight months ago) link

Exactly

Mark G, Tuesday, 26 March 2024 07:42 (eight months ago) link

his demeanour is unsuited to culture warfare, regardless of what he's saying he presents like a cameron or clegg, ranting and "gaffes" are required and stories about obnoxious things he says in private but I suggest he start putting in the effort ASAP

conrad, Tuesday, 26 March 2024 09:18 (eight months ago) link

Or just that he's had the misfortune to become leader when the party is circling the drain, and a lot of tories response solution to any problem will always be moving further to the right, regardless of circumstances?

They did the same thing when Blair won.

Tom D (the first British Asian ILXor) (Tom D.), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 09:25 (eight months ago) link

as chancellor he presided over one of the - if not the - biggest, most sustained social welfare programmes in post-war history, shovelling billions of pounds into the pockets of people unable to work because of covid, and it worked, which is i think in the eyes of many tories simply inexcusable

Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 10:18 (eight months ago) link

also the tight-arsed (in comparison to the French equivalent) Cost of Living payments - the absolute socialist horror of giving free money to poor ppl upset some of the hard-right. I think he was using them against Truss in the leadership debate, who was a bit fuzzy on committing to further payments.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 10:43 (eight months ago) link

He was at the height of his popularity during the eat out to help out scheme.

Tories like to give money away as long as they are destroying state capacity, but Covid did short circuit them.

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 26 March 2024 10:46 (eight months ago) link

isn't it just that they think he's a centrist because he's marginally less unhinged than like, truss, badenoch or braverman

ufo, Tuesday, 26 March 2024 11:04 (eight months ago) link

is he though

Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 12:58 (eight months ago) link

Think that before becoming PM he was seen as somewhat quieter compared to Truss, but yeah he is just as unhinged now he's at the top.

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 26 March 2024 15:11 (eight months ago) link

Truss had many years of Cabinet membership to grossly inflate her sense of competence and resulting Main Character flameout. Sunak seems to have a bit more self-awareness and isn't as pig-in-shit comfortable dipping into culture war BS. He does seem more Cameron/Osborne-like to me.

nashwan, Tuesday, 26 March 2024 15:47 (eight months ago) link

i think all of them are products of 'the moment' more or less in that, while I don't doubt they are all pretty hateful and would send us all to the camps without a second thought, i think the ratio of zealotry to opportunism is often overstated on the part of these ghouls. They're hateful but they peddle hate mostly because its useful to them. For this reason I think its difficult to gauge what motivates them by the policies they push and place them on a swivel-eye scale. all that said, my instinct is that truss and braverman are more motivated by an actual belief in their bullshit than sunak and to a slightly lesser degree badenoch who both strike me as primarily immoral blaggers.

plax (ico), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 16:42 (eight months ago) link

yeah i pretty much agree with that

another caveat for me is the difference between culture war zealotry and libertarian roll back the state zeolatry, obv these things have close ties but they're not identical and you can be a partisan of either while assuming the mantle of respectability on the other, but at heart they're both roads to cruelty & fascism

Bitchin Doutai (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 17:14 (eight months ago) link

like for Sunak surely Prime Minister is not the most personally lucrative grift open to him, but it gives him power to push the economic landscape in ways that enrich him and his allies long term, so it's easy to see the adoption of bigoted stances as just flavour sauce for the useful idiots

Bitchin Doutai (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 17:17 (eight months ago) link

Badenoch is very much a zealot btw.

Tom D (the first British Asian ILXor) (Tom D.), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 17:20 (eight months ago) link

Tell me more! I hate her but she always comes across as a total cynical grifter to me

plax (ico), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 17:21 (eight months ago) link

Whenever I think of Kemi Badenoch I think of that period I was reading conservative home every day for the loonies in the comments

https://conservativehome.com/2017/12/21/interview-kemi-badenoch-im-not-really-left-leaning-on-anything-i-always-lean-right-instinctively/

Badenoch: “The escape from Colditz is I think probably the coolest thing any British politician has ever done.”

Bacon: “One or two lords escaped as well.”

Badenoch: “They were made lords because of their war service. So that we do have a lot of war heroes. But when you think about MPs, when I listen to MPs, again, I must sound so tribal, but when I hear a lot of the whining from the Opposition benches, you think about people like Airey Neave, and what they got done, and I just imagine if the current Parliamentary Labour Party and probably a few others on our side were in prisoner of war camps, they’d probably just die.”

ConHome: “Well Dan Jarvis would be all right.”

Badenoch: “Maybe, maybe Dan Jarvis. But I feel we are much softer as a generation, and that’s probably a better point to make, it sounds less party political. I think that we have gone a bit soft in terms of how resilient we are in dealing with adversity.

“And that’s not as politicians, but just the country as a whole. I don’t feel that we’re as tough as we used to be, if we had to deal with rationing or not having everything 24/7 immediately available.


Like, this is not a bit.

Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 17:30 (eight months ago) link

She's one of the more enthusiastic, and genuine, culture warriors in the Tory Party.

Tom D (the first British Asian ILXor) (Tom D.), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 17:38 (eight months ago) link

i also enjoy thinking about Airey Neave getting done tbf

Bitchin Doutai (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 17:48 (eight months ago) link

Idk for badenoch I always get the sense that it's just some dumb game and that particular slice of drivel does little to dispel that feeling. To be clear what I'm claiming is very much an instinct and thus fairly resistant to being disproven empirically.

plax (ico), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 17:51 (eight months ago) link

Truss is also somewhat moot as her brain is clearly mush

plax (ico), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 17:51 (eight months ago) link

What is a “Blueberry & Yuzu Blondie”?

Come on, Leon, why not offer a delicious Chelsea Bun!#ReviveTheChelseaBun pic.twitter.com/QLbhHQ8JC6

— Greg Hands (@GregHands) March 25, 2024

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 26 March 2024 19:45 (eight months ago) link

i only found out what a yuzu was in the last few days (courtesy lidl's japanese week) -- did everyone else (except greg hands) already know?

anyway they're really nice

mark s, Tuesday, 26 March 2024 19:56 (eight months ago) link

I am going to have to try this.

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 26 March 2024 20:02 (eight months ago) link

Greg hands is the mp for chelsea obv. which is why he's being such a tit about it

Bernard Quidbins (NickB), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 20:04 (eight months ago) link

We’re about the stage in the Tory lifecycle where we’re due a citrus fruit related autoerotic asphyxiation.

This time the fruit will be Yuzu.

Ed, Tuesday, 26 March 2024 20:21 (eight months ago) link

Hi Ed!

Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 21:12 (eight months ago) link

I only know yuzu as the ingredient in ponzu

plax (ico), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 21:42 (eight months ago) link

if Starmer was to expire from autoerotic asphyxiation, no doubt he'd be found with a british bramley apple in his mouth, not something foreign. It would be appropriate as well because he already has the skin complexion and build of a small overfed suckling pig.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 22:36 (eight months ago) link

the labour anonyvoter scandal is something where I initially thought: they do stitch-ups, yeah I know. But this isn't looking good for them or at least it shouldn't be in a functional democracy. I read there are potentially 30-40 selections that may be comprised by this system and there could be criminal convictions to follow the MET investigation, but again this would only happen in a functional democracy.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 22:53 (eight months ago) link

i wonder if members in the rigged constituencies will have grounds to bring a civil suit but let's be honest if you're still a member you've probably got Stockholm Syndrome so bad you can only speak Swedish

Bitchin Doutai (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 22:56 (eight months ago) link

GS asked about Anonyvoter and Croydon and why results breakdowns are not provided.

Evans said - Anonyvoter publicity misplaced and misdirected. False and fake news to suggest Croydon East had anything to do with it. He didn't respond to why results breakdowns aren't provided

— Mish Rahman (@mish_rahman) March 26, 2024

That's all okay then

glumdalclitch, Tuesday, 26 March 2024 23:09 (eight months ago) link

that's what I was thinking, but they are actually breaking the law here - I know, lol- but I thought this murky internal stuff they do can only be held to account by their own rules and regs. But I have heard ppl saying they could also be prosecuted by law in this case.

The investigation would reveal Evans awarded the Anonyvoter contract to a labour right mate and details of members were altered inhouse, and no other UK party uses this system. This should be a MAJOR scandal.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 23:10 (eight months ago) link

lol, Laurence Fox has announced he's voting Labour in the next GE

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 23:17 (eight months ago) link

The other shoe is bound to drop re: David Evans eventually.

steely flan (suzy), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 23:29 (eight months ago) link

Feels true.

This place is the narrative arch of the long-90s - from industrial 'creativity' of the YBAs, attempts to brand criticality, to the destruction of any conditions that might produce anything 'creative' by successive neo-liberal brand managers. its maddeninghttps://t.co/RReINdkt11

— Arbeitology (@Arbeit_Fish) March 28, 2024

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 28 March 2024 11:15 (eight months ago) link

If only 'Ref' went away...or formed a coalition with Tories

🚨 Labour lead by 19pts (majority of 250)

🟥 LAB 40% (-4)
🟦 CON 21% (+2)
🟪 REF 16% (+1)
🟧 LD 10% (+1)
🟩 GRN 8% (=)
🟨 SNP 3% (=)

Via @YouGov , 26-27 Mar (+/- vs 19-20 Mar) pic.twitter.com/WzifhSRUyu

— Stats for Lefties 🇵🇸🏳️‍⚧️ (@LeftieStats) March 28, 2024

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 28 March 2024 11:19 (eight months ago) link

Reform took a while to filter through to the odds, but now

Conservatives to get Most Seats 17/2
Conservative Overall Majority 22/1 (out from 14/1 last time I looked)

anvil, Thursday, 28 March 2024 12:21 (eight months ago) link

nice lil "is there an election in my area" page

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c8v36l6d54do

Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 28 March 2024 18:17 (eight months ago) link

So we get to vote for someone called the Police & Crime Commissioner. Always important to have a foot in both camps.

Grandpont Genie, Thursday, 28 March 2024 19:17 (eight months ago) link

Lol I never vote for that shit on the basis that whoever wants to do it should be discouraged

Bitchin Doutai (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 28 March 2024 20:45 (eight months ago) link

Split that Commish! /tomhaverford

nashwan, Thursday, 28 March 2024 20:48 (eight months ago) link

pic.twitter.com/i4LMUzoTT9

— DUP (@duponline) March 29, 2024



This is following this report: https://www.belfastlive.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/husband-wife-co-down-charged-28907532

Unspeakably grim.

Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Friday, 29 March 2024 13:19 (eight months ago) link

Aw Jesus, that is horrible.

Andrew Farrell, Friday, 29 March 2024 13:23 (eight months ago) link

Prosecution is a ahocking assault on Unionist culture

Bitchin Doutai (Noodle Vague), Friday, 29 March 2024 13:32 (eight months ago) link

Orange Bastard In Nonce Shocker

The Prime of the Ancient Minister (Tom D.), Friday, 29 March 2024 13:46 (eight months ago) link

"In the 1980s he ran the constituency office of Enoch Powell, the former Conservative MP". sounds lovely.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 29 March 2024 14:39 (eight months ago) link

I'm a yank obv but wonder what UK folks think about this take: https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1774030136737730661.html?

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Saturday, 30 March 2024 19:58 (eight months ago) link

My job is related entirely to foreign students in the UK, and yes there has been a sustained assault on them as a ploy to get immigration figures down, already we have almost zero EU students, and this year masters-level students are significantly down due to new restrictions on bringing their families over.

This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 30 March 2024 20:03 (eight months ago) link

Just ridiculous

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Saturday, 30 March 2024 20:07 (eight months ago) link

Allergic to the economic argument for migration, but yes it's accurate as to what is happening. We will all be a lot poorer in all sorts of ways as routes for migration are shut.

In some ways the Tories are throwing the economy under the bus for the next government but it's unlikely Labour will do anything #provemewrong

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 30 March 2024 20:57 (eight months ago) link

I don't like economic arguments for anything but it pisses me off that the people who make economic growth their only stated goal are still doing this despite the obvious damage to the economy. Even by their own rules it's stupid and only harmful to the country.

This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 30 March 2024 21:07 (eight months ago) link

Housing capacity (that is affordable for students en masse, let alone working graduates) is so bad this is the inevitable knock on effect.

nashwan, Saturday, 30 March 2024 21:11 (eight months ago) link

I mean we all know that there is loads of unused housing around the UK including London, so I don't see that as an excuse.

This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 30 March 2024 21:13 (eight months ago) link

fwiw the account in question belongs to someone who most likely agrees with you all about the economic arguments, but is just trying to get at how dumb and cruel the policy is.

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Saturday, 30 March 2024 21:13 (eight months ago) link

Not to mention that compulsory education standards have been in decline due to government policies for years, so if the claim is that easier access to university places should improve life opportunities for British students they might want to start there. Not that I'm expecting sense from anyone, this argument is just theoretical.

continue without dissembling (Matt #2), Saturday, 30 March 2024 21:21 (eight months ago) link

i know the attack on humanities degrees as lacking practical utility is hardly just a UK thing, but the sustained assault here seems to be accelerating of late. this twitter thread has been shared by cunts far and wide

If you’re shocked by the £800k taxpayer-funded Shakespeare study, then I’ve got more bad news (although knowledge is power 💪) 🧵

Here are other examples the Arts and Humanities Research Council has funded (with our money):

— Charlotte Gill (@CharlotteCGill) March 24, 2024

This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 30 March 2024 21:26 (eight months ago) link

Thought that stuff was silly, grifter twitter rubbish. There is nothing Gill can do about academic studies if the uni sector was in a healthy state.

The main attack on UK uni sector really started with tuition fees and the managerialism that came into the sector. Ultimately, that's driven by questions as to how a thing like a University functions within society, but that is a bit out of bounds for this discussion.

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 30 March 2024 21:34 (eight months ago) link

I don't read it as grifter rubbish considering that she works for the Mail and I hear about something like this every other week

https://www.change.org/p/save-arts-humanities-and-social-sciences-subjects-at-the-university-of-kent

This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 30 March 2024 22:04 (eight months ago) link

I shouldn't have looked but hey, didn't take long to get to the nub of it: 1) decolonising; 2) queer and trans; 3) Islam. One senses it's not the money that's the issue.

I would prefer not to. (Chinaski), Saturday, 30 March 2024 22:08 (eight months ago) link

To me, that falls into a constant noise made by the press about what goes on in Universities: what kind of courses are taught, by whom, what are they for, how do they prepare the young for work, and so on xp

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 30 March 2024 22:12 (eight months ago) link

Like I say, it's my job, so I have more awareness of it for sure, but it's absolutely the case humanities departments are being gutted all the time these days.

This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 30 March 2024 22:34 (eight months ago) link

fwiw the account in question belongs to someone who most likely agrees with you all about the economic arguments, but is just trying to get at how dumb and cruel the policy is.

You see, there's this group of people who are known as Tories...

The Prime of the Ancient Minister (Tom D.), Saturday, 30 March 2024 22:59 (eight months ago) link

oh come on man lol, i am not that thick

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Saturday, 30 March 2024 23:02 (eight months ago) link

you can look him up, he is very much “my team” iykwim

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Saturday, 30 March 2024 23:02 (eight months ago) link

tbh, it’s kind of silly to position the hypothetical international student with dependents a someone with a great first degree to wants to study at UCL but has a young kid. They exist but if that was the typical profile it’s hard to imagine the government would be legislating to stop them.

The last fifteen years of student migration policy has been a back and forth between liberalisation and curbs, either because the government is really bad at tweaking things to get the intended outcome (making the U.K. a competitive place for attracting international students) without the unintended outcome (a lot of people who are mostly motivated by permanent migration opportunities) or , more likely, because that outcome is basically impossible to dial in.

The current restrictions come on the back of the opening up of post-study work opportunities, the removal of which were one of the main reasons applications from outside of China and the EU tanked. The goal was to divert some of the young graduates who are currently going to Canada, predominantly, towards choosing to study in the U.K. with the carrot of a couple of years of work at the back end and potentially a route to a longer-term stay after that.

It did kind of work to an extent but the perception, at least, was that the majority of the people who found the offer compelling weren’t really looking at getting work experience post-study, long-term migration was the goal and study, often ‘low-quality’ business admin, etc, degrees was a means to an end. In a lot of cases, they were much older than the target profile and already had established families. The percentage of visas granted to dependents went up from a couple of percent to 24% and would likely have gone higher. iirc in some major sending countries, applications from dependents were higher than the number of applications from students.

There has always been a huge amount of arbitrage and (outright fraud) in international student migration as it’s basically the only option available to a lot of people who want to live in the U.K. There probably isn’t really a lot you can do to stop it, it’s the price of having a competitive education sector. I doubt Labour will take a particularly different approach. You can probably expect a liberalisation in three years followed by a reactive curb in five when the ‘wrong sort of students’ come.

ShariVari, Sunday, 31 March 2024 08:39 (eight months ago) link

liz truss posts an Easter picture of her carrying a lamb outside a church. only the church has shuttered windows and is surrounded by security fencing. could she not see?

koogs, Sunday, 31 March 2024 11:32 (eight months ago) link

it's a visibly distressed lamb that doesn't want to be held by clumsy Truss, so obv the lamb is part of the deep state.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 31 March 2024 13:32 (eight months ago) link

It’ll get worse - I reported a leaked document last year showing Sunak was explicitly told that if he cut HS2 and the Euston rebuild it includes, the station will regularly have to close due to “gross exceedance of passenger comfort levels” (overcrowding) https://t.co/EMHwxCFsKN https://t.co/vahrwSP8qD

— Jon Stone (@joncstone) April 3, 2024

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 3 April 2024 19:23 (eight months ago) link

Don’t let the doomsters and the naysayers trick you into talking down our country.

The UK is as strong as ever 🇬🇧 pic.twitter.com/0TsDiFcryO

— Conservatives (@Conservatives) April 4, 2024

something very out of time about the aesthetic of this poster. Kind of a mid to late 2000s landfill indie album cover look, or the opening titles for a comedy panel show from the same era that borrowed elements of that look, Mock the Week, Would I Lie To You etc. Landfill politics.

soref, Thursday, 4 April 2024 18:34 (eight months ago) link

ahh no greater unifying force in these isles than the England football team

( X '____' )/ (zappi), Thursday, 4 April 2024 18:38 (eight months ago) link

You might argue that the appeal to anybody whose primary voting motivation is "our country" doesn't want to be sophisticated

Bitchin Doutai (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 4 April 2024 18:39 (eight months ago) link

like these lovely people

Could @Nigel_Farage ‘s 60th birthday party go down in history as the defining moment for the 2024 General Election?
Plenty of famous faces in the house!@realDonaldTrump @TMartinOfficial@JimDOfficial@DavidDavisMP@THEJamesWhale@JuliaHB1@TiceRichard@LeeAndersonMP_pic.twitter.com/hlVAV1570W

— Charlie Mullins OBE (@CharlieM_OBE) April 4, 2024

This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 4 April 2024 18:47 (eight months ago) link

Don’t let the doomsters and the naysayers trick you into talking down our country.

The UK is as strong as ever

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BYWEwZGZhODctZjY0MS00MTViLWE5NDUtMDczZDNiNzBkYzZlXkEyXkFqcGdeQXVyMjUyNDk2ODc@._V1_.jpg

soref, Thursday, 4 April 2024 18:50 (eight months ago) link

(xp) Hey, don't forget Charlie Mullins!

The Prime of the Ancient Minister (Tom D.), Thursday, 4 April 2024 20:32 (eight months ago) link

... oh the tweet's by Charlie Mullins lol

The Prime of the Ancient Minister (Tom D.), Thursday, 4 April 2024 20:32 (eight months ago) link

Well, that didn't take long.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GKVav4_XAAARjxb?format=png&name=900x900

The Prime of the Ancient Minister (Tom D.), Thursday, 4 April 2024 20:36 (eight months ago) link

lol perfect

( X '____' )/ (zappi), Thursday, 4 April 2024 20:40 (eight months ago) link

Pay no heed to the naysayers. Drinking sewage is good actually

subpost master (wins), Thursday, 4 April 2024 20:42 (eight months ago) link

Full of roughage iirc

Bitchin Doutai (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 4 April 2024 20:48 (eight months ago) link

shit in the water at night, Oxford rowers delight!

I seem to recall Charlie had a brexit tantrum and joined the LibDems in a fit of pique as a demonstration of his strong political convictions .. lol. A Trump vid on a television doesn't really count as "in the house"

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 4 April 2024 20:50 (eight months ago) link

Second toughest in the infants.

nashwan, Thursday, 4 April 2024 21:06 (eight months ago) link

who on earth is that tory ad aimed at

glumdalclitch, Thursday, 4 April 2024 21:18 (eight months ago) link

Cunts?

Bitchin Doutai (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 4 April 2024 21:34 (eight months ago) link

Starmer

nashwan, Thursday, 4 April 2024 21:37 (eight months ago) link

Welcome to #Dover.#VoteLabour pic.twitter.com/BD6gaDOMda

— Mike Tapp (@MikeTappTweets) April 4, 2024

Yeah, the new Labour voting base I guess. Makes sense.

glumdalclitch, Thursday, 4 April 2024 21:43 (eight months ago) link

look at the size of those fucking medals, he must be a great guy

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 4 April 2024 21:47 (eight months ago) link

is that how you wear medals of honour or whatever the fuck they are? it looks weird tbh

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 4 April 2024 21:52 (eight months ago) link

oh it's a parody account. I'm so bad with this shit these days or alternatively they are so on point it's impossible to tell.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 4 April 2024 21:56 (eight months ago) link

It's a fascinating photo. Big big man, big big flag backdrop, but little little flag pin on his lapel, maybe sending "Little Britain" message? Big big medals, but then little man, miniscule replication of the big man, at the top, dwarfed by the medals and his own face. Gutwrenching disparities of scale, some sort of nationalist code. Eyes like snakes, as metallic as the medal surfaces. And to top it off, the rusty dilapidated underbelly of the board, of the country, barely hidden by all the this shiny bombastic pablum. It's art.

glumdalclitch, Thursday, 4 April 2024 21:57 (eight months ago) link

xp
pretty sure it isn't, there's loads of videos of him talking to camera, unless AI is now much better than I thought it was.

glumdalclitch, Thursday, 4 April 2024 21:58 (eight months ago) link

Not a parody

https://miketapp.co.uk/

The Prime of the Ancient Minister (Tom D.), Thursday, 4 April 2024 21:58 (eight months ago) link

he's wearing a regimental tie too. what a prick

Bernard Quidbins (NickB), Thursday, 4 April 2024 21:59 (eight months ago) link

he's wearing a regimental tie too

the intelligence corps apparently, fucking weasel

Bernard Quidbins (NickB), Thursday, 4 April 2024 22:03 (eight months ago) link

why do his fucking medals always look clumsily shopped onto him? I could understand him not wanting to be crass enough to wear them all the time, oh actually, no ...scrub that.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 4 April 2024 22:09 (eight months ago) link

That billboard looks like a threat to anyone daring to attempt immigrating into the UK.
"Welcome to Dover, fuckers" *cracks knuckles*

never invade Londonistan (Matt #2), Thursday, 4 April 2024 22:12 (eight months ago) link

No way "Mike Tapp* isn't a joke

Bitchin Doutai (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 4 April 2024 22:28 (eight months ago) link

Was Mike Gapes? *long pause*

The Prime of the Ancient Minister (Tom D.), Thursday, 4 April 2024 22:30 (eight months ago) link

I mean

Bitchin Doutai (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 4 April 2024 22:31 (eight months ago) link

at least Gapesy was a funny and storied type of hideous Labour right creature. This psycho probably got a medal for shooting a child dead in cold blood or something.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 4 April 2024 22:40 (eight months ago) link

when I say storied it relates with Gaspesy's student days when he was a staunch Stalinist.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 4 April 2024 22:46 (eight months ago) link

Bud I don't disagree it's just wall to wall cunts and if I'm aligned with the Daily Mail here we're both right but for technically different reasons

Bitchin Doutai (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 4 April 2024 22:54 (eight months ago) link

Parliamentary democracy being the ILM of being political etc etc

Bitchin Doutai (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 4 April 2024 22:56 (eight months ago) link

Hoping to wrest the Dover seat from sitting MP Sybil Ance

Ethinically Ambigaus (Bananaman Begins), Friday, 5 April 2024 08:27 (eight months ago) link

still confused about whether this guy is a parody or not

https://i.imgur.com/ZLzAryG.png

soref, Friday, 5 April 2024 11:37 (eight months ago) link

The "evil terrorists" line definitely makes this look like a parody.

The Prime of the Ancient Minister (Tom D.), Friday, 5 April 2024 11:39 (eight months ago) link

afaict he's really the Labour candidate for Dover and is really a Stamerite right-winger, but is also taking the piss out of himself in a self-aware way to some extent?

Pulling a pint of Spitfire in the pub, coz i'm a normal bloke..#Dover #Deal #Kingsdown #ZetlandArms #VoteLabour pic.twitter.com/bVH9KHHlrK

— Mike Tapp (@MikeTappTweets) January 28, 2024

soref, Friday, 5 April 2024 11:39 (eight months ago) link

i've just played all the videos on his website at once, it's pretty trippy

Bitchin Doutai (Noodle Vague), Friday, 5 April 2024 11:41 (eight months ago) link

Spooks 4 Labour

Bitchin Doutai (Noodle Vague), Friday, 5 April 2024 11:41 (eight months ago) link

You'd hope he's taking the piss but hard to tell.

The Prime of the Ancient Minister (Tom D.), Friday, 5 April 2024 11:42 (eight months ago) link

maybe walking a fine line between self-aware self-deprecation and open contempt for the electorate? 'here you, this is the kind of shit you idiots like, isn't it' etc

soref, Friday, 5 April 2024 11:42 (eight months ago) link

the "haha i'm a cunt but at least i know i'm a cunt" is the feeblest form of self-effacement

Bitchin Doutai (Noodle Vague), Friday, 5 April 2024 11:42 (eight months ago) link

"vote for me there's a non-zero chance i've done war crimes" is pretty on brand for Labour 2024

Bitchin Doutai (Noodle Vague), Friday, 5 April 2024 11:45 (eight months ago) link

only someone who has personally flamethrowered a bus full of kids can ensure your bins get picked up on time

memphis milano: the new trend of the 80s (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 5 April 2024 12:02 (eight months ago) link

Would Smash (criminal gangs)

a hoy hoy, Friday, 5 April 2024 12:03 (eight months ago) link

That surely hasn't been true in decades lol.

tories will go to work and cut arts funding and then go home to their designer furniture and William Morris wallpaper and put a BBC drama on and then discuss the Renaissance masters over dinner https://t.co/bmoYPVdOpF

— Daisy Dixon (@daisyldixon) April 5, 2024

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 6 April 2024 11:29 (eight months ago) link

It's metafiction

Bitchin Doutai (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 6 April 2024 11:37 (eight months ago) link

LOL @ the idea of Rishi Sunak discussing the Renaissance masters

Hunky Tory (Tom D.), Saturday, 6 April 2024 11:48 (eight months ago) link

A person being mad about the Renaissance masters could look at Hirst and Emin and want to destroy higher education anyway.

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 6 April 2024 11:51 (eight months ago) link

RETVRN

(to trevor griffiths plays for 2day on TV every week)

mark s, Saturday, 6 April 2024 11:59 (eight months ago) link

go home to their Laura Ashley wallpaper, discussing Johnny Morris over M+S readymeals and then put on some Netflix shite is more like it

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 6 April 2024 12:09 (eight months ago) link

not to set off discourse but why is wallpaper anyway, just whitewash all yr walls as the gods of art intended

mark s, Saturday, 6 April 2024 12:15 (eight months ago) link

wouldn't even know how to put it up. I don't even bother removing old wallpaper from previous tenants - just paint over that shit!

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 6 April 2024 12:21 (eight months ago) link

walls are bourgeois, get in a fucking yurt or gtfo

memphis milano: the new trend of the 80s (bizarro gazzara), Saturday, 6 April 2024 12:26 (eight months ago) link

if you haven't tried to strip umpteen strata of anaglypta cemented in place over decades have you ever really lived?

Bitchin Doutai (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 6 April 2024 12:31 (eight months ago) link

you shouldn't really fuck with artex, it's low asbestos but if you are stripping it off for days it can't be good for you. Just paint over that ugly shit and fuhgeddaboutit

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 6 April 2024 12:36 (eight months ago) link

oh my days of reluctantly attempting diy are looooooong gone

Bitchin Doutai (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 6 April 2024 12:39 (eight months ago) link

Getting a professional in to plaster over artex is an investment worth making, if I wanted stipples all over my ceiling I'd have coated it in Aero bars.

if i just keep writing a plot will emerge by itself (Matt #2), Saturday, 6 April 2024 12:53 (eight months ago) link

now I have 'back once again with the renaissance masters' stuck in my head

Bernard Quidbins (NickB), Saturday, 6 April 2024 17:15 (eight months ago) link

Corbyn threatened to sue and so another nobody is humiliated online.

Since posting the tweet below, it has been brought to my attention that the Declassified UK video with Jeremy Corbyn may have been recorded some time ago, rather than having first been issued last Thursday, as I inferred in my post. I’m happy to clarify this. pic.twitter.com/IAGf898IoR

— Mike Katz (@mikekatz) April 9, 2024

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 9 April 2024 18:32 (eight months ago) link

That’s a kind of double-down as well. What a schmuck.

steely flan (suzy), Tuesday, 9 April 2024 20:02 (eight months ago) link

doesn't even know the difference between imply and infer

symsymsym, Tuesday, 9 April 2024 22:22 (eight months ago) link

ffs

🚨 NEW: William Wragg's wifi password is visible in the background of a photoshoot for The Observer newspaper

[@AvaSantina] pic.twitter.com/JuDC0TKSh7

— Politics UK (@PolitlcsUK) April 10, 2024

memphis milano: the new trend of the 80s (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 10 April 2024 17:46 (eight months ago) link

I wonder what kind of feedback Starmer is getting about the vote in Holborn and St Pancras?

steely flan (suzy), Friday, 12 April 2024 08:19 (eight months ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GEFwsYtWsAAH3OD?format=png&name=small

me, when Labour's hope of an outright majority slips away on GE night

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 12 April 2024 08:25 (eight months ago) link

13/1 Tories most seats, 35/1 Conservative overall majority

I'm currently thinking 40 on the first and 10 on the second

anvil, Friday, 12 April 2024 08:32 (eight months ago) link

I keep planning to do it and then the odds go up again

anvil, Friday, 12 April 2024 08:33 (eight months ago) link

Decided not to vote for the mayoral elections.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 12 April 2024 08:36 (eight months ago) link

Well blow me down.

One senior Labour adviser told the Guardian: “Are we losing urban progressive voters? Of course. At the moment it looks like it doesn’t matter as our poll lead is so wide"

👍

conrad, Friday, 12 April 2024 12:03 (eight months ago) link

Famous last words.

My God's got no nose... (Tom D.), Friday, 12 April 2024 12:06 (eight months ago) link

If they think it’s just “young people”, there’s really ought to know that nobody I’ve spoken to who’s white and between 50 and 60 in Keir Starmer’s constituency is white landing to vote for him. Sadiq Khan, yes, but Keir can geh kaken ofen yam.

steely flan (suzy), Friday, 12 April 2024 12:10 (eight months ago) link

white landing = white is planning

Mystified by autocorrect

steely flan (suzy), Friday, 12 April 2024 12:11 (eight months ago) link

they would much rather lose or win by a slimmer margin than expdcted if otherwise they would have to court the kind of coalition they see as their primary political enemy (the falafel crowd or somesuch fake populist heavily coded epithet) - plus they already know who blame in such an eventuality and the guardian already has a bunch of scolding opeds ready to go for the aftermath regardless of the results

Left, Friday, 12 April 2024 12:46 (eight months ago) link

*who to blame

idk if they have even a medium term plan it just seems like they're trying to kill anything good for as long as possible while doing a sort of vulture capitalism thing on the party and related institutions (but in a very ideologically motivated musk on twitter kind of way)

Left, Friday, 12 April 2024 12:54 (eight months ago) link

He wants to make love to Trident

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-68790435

My God's got no nose... (Tom D.), Friday, 12 April 2024 13:09 (eight months ago) link

is this the famous death drive I keep hearing about

Left, Friday, 12 April 2024 13:19 (eight months ago) link

imagine saying that. imagine not hedging and talking about regrettable necessities or negotiating from strength or any euphemism other than full gung-ho WE ARE PARTY OF NUKES. imagine being that fucking sick

Bitchin Doutai (Noodle Vague), Friday, 12 April 2024 18:11 (eight months ago) link

a classic of the genre

Bitchin Doutai (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 18 April 2024 08:07 (eight months ago) link

Beautiful

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 18 April 2024 08:10 (eight months ago) link

imo he was just having a bit of an adventure and ran into the wrong ppl, the fraud committed is pocket change. I'm more troubled that the next Health Sec is in the pocket of private healthcare than any amusing stories of idiot Mps fucking about and getting into trouble.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 18 April 2024 08:22 (eight months ago) link

less funny for the dog of course

Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Thursday, 18 April 2024 09:21 (eight months ago) link

I was thinking that giving a dog a little snifter of ale as an occasional treat is not terrible and some pub dogs enjoy a taste, but getting a dog pissed is just degenerate and cruel.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 18 April 2024 09:25 (eight months ago) link

You can take the boy out of Ayrshire...

My God's got no nose... (Tom D.), Thursday, 18 April 2024 09:42 (eight months ago) link

Menzies denies the allegations and maintains he has followed all the rules about funding declarations.

"Honestly I was surprised that the Conservative Party has specific forms for this, but I did fill them in"

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 18 April 2024 09:46 (eight months ago) link

Sunak's war on disability is going to adversely the mental health of god knows how many thousands on thousands of people, right now. i won't even speculate on some of the consequences of this. the Labour Party, of course, have done nothing except egg him on and cultivate the landscape where this is mainstream political policy

Bitchin Doutai (Noodle Vague), Friday, 19 April 2024 18:32 (eight months ago) link

just to briefly summarise quite badly, so much evil going on. Local Authorities ruling that ill or disabled ppl, who if the care package they require to independently live at home exceeds the cost of residential care, then residential care is what they get. Unpaid carers getting dragged into court to recover the measly CA payments they received because their p/t jobs went a penny over £151.01. So much more I could mention that I feel could realistically get worse under a Labour govt led by complete cunts who have locked themselves into maintaining the Tory fiscal rules.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 19 April 2024 18:48 (eight months ago) link

People making policy decisions that will never have to personally experience the misery and stress they create. I know it was ever thus, it just seems so much more brazen now. God I fucking hate them all.

Bernard Quidbins (NickB), Friday, 19 April 2024 19:03 (eight months ago) link

there is another UC migration on the way, that will be another fucker for disabled ppl on legacy benefits. It's just been wave after wave of attacks on disabled/ill ppl since 2009. Because obv everything is all their fault.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 19 April 2024 19:17 (eight months ago) link

I've only just caught up with the vile Sunak speech this morning, it's the same sinister PaThWaYs into work death messaging that is coming from Starmer + Reeves. Neither of them would lose any sleep if their policies were directly responsible for a 100000+ deaths, just as Gideon didn't lose any sleep during the 2010's wave of governmental manslaughter. The UN Convention on the Rights of Persons with Disabilities doesn't mean shit in this country and both main parties are happy to run roughshod over it. It's a diabolical situation.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 20 April 2024 10:09 (eight months ago) link

the two largest political parties locked in competition to prove who can murder the most people pretty much sums up the UK today

Bitchin Doutai (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 20 April 2024 10:44 (eight months ago) link

mayoral election leaflet is an interesting read.

abolish ulez, end ulez, scrap ulez, scrap ulez, scrap the disaster policy ulez, abolish ulez...

koogs, Saturday, 20 April 2024 11:58 (eight months ago) link

It's good and right to be angry at Starmer, but it's always worth remembering that Sunak is a gold-plated management cunt.

Blaming the rise in the numbers off work with long-term illness — an eye-watering total of 2.8 million — on the “over-medicalization” of “everyday challenges and worries of life,” he’ll point to figures showing more than half of those claiming incapacity benefits are off with the mental health conditions depression, anxiety and bad nerves.

As part of the reforms, doctors will no longer have the power to issue fit notes willy-nilly, with more advice and support given to patients on how to get back to work. The government is considering stripping doctors of the authority to issue fit notes altogether and handing this power to “specialist work and health professionals.”

Sunak will say: “I will never dismiss or downplay the illnesses people have,” adding that it is a sign of progress that people can talk openly about mental health conditions.” But, he’ll add: “Just as it would be wrong to dismiss this growing trend, so it would be wrong merely to sit back and accept it because it’s too hard or too controversial or for fear of causing offense.”

Andrew Farrell, Saturday, 20 April 2024 17:24 (eight months ago) link

we all know those “specialist work and health professionals” are going to be people with minimum qualifications and quotas to meet ala ATOS and their disastrous fit to work tests. taking great delight in how ATOS are faring these days btw, fuck them for pushing me into full on poverty for 14 months.

( X '____' )/ (zappi), Saturday, 20 April 2024 17:40 (eight months ago) link

at least Sunak ran his leadership campaign in character as a snivelling little tory billionaire, Starmer ran with Economic/Social Justice and the abolition of Universal Credit on his banner. To me that makes him more despicable than even t'other little twerp.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 20 April 2024 17:53 (eight months ago) link

i remember when those evil Tories brought in the whole ATOS regime in 2008

Bitchin Doutai (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 20 April 2024 18:46 (eight months ago) link

anyway it's spectacularly honest to keep making speeches saying "there's too many people off work with bad mental health, btw we will not be doing anything about the current state of mental health services"

Bitchin Doutai (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 20 April 2024 18:48 (eight months ago) link

xp

tbf "evil Tory" is a fair description of Yvette Cooper

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 20 April 2024 18:53 (eight months ago) link

The same Yvette Cooper who needed incapacity benefit when she suffered from ME in the early ‘90s, so she had a brass neck taking it away or making claims more difficult from those who are similarly afflicted.

steely flan (suzy), Saturday, 20 April 2024 19:10 (eight months ago) link

I’ve resolved that if anyone brings up the king’s bum cancer to me, or whatever type of cancer Kate has (probably bum cancer) I will say that it is unfortunate that they have become economically inactive and hopefully they can be forced into work asap

subpost master (wins), Saturday, 20 April 2024 19:38 (eight months ago) link

pic.twitter.com/OnXEm5egXv

— ian mighty (@iammightor) April 21, 2024

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 23 April 2024 11:39 (seven months ago) link

No surprise there.

Not waving but droning (Tom D.), Tuesday, 23 April 2024 11:40 (seven months ago) link

PGMOL to oversee the Diane Abbott "investigation", sorry Trots she's off by a toenail

prog ain't no religious cult (Matt #2), Tuesday, 23 April 2024 11:52 (seven months ago) link

donaldson case sounds very grim

devvvine, Wednesday, 24 April 2024 12:20 (seven months ago) link

(xp) Translation?

Not waving but droning (Tom D.), Wednesday, 24 April 2024 12:42 (seven months ago) link

Botswana declined request to host UK migrants. Minister of Foreign Affairs says "The British government doesn’t want these people in their country so they want to ferry them in a faraway country."

— African News feed. (@africansinnews) April 24, 2024

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 24 April 2024 13:19 (seven months ago) link

Labour has voted with the Tories to weaken Ofwat's ability to fine water companies for sewage pollution - https://t.co/jTIQ2dkgIx

— Helena Horton (@horton_official) April 24, 2024

Labour MPs voted with the government, and it is understood this is because they did not want to be accused of being “anti-growth”

Bitchin Doutai (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 24 April 2024 17:03 (seven months ago) link

somebody should tell them that when it comes to toxic bacteria growth is bad not good

Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 24 April 2024 17:11 (seven months ago) link

Vote labour: same shit in a different glass

subpost master (wins), Wednesday, 24 April 2024 17:29 (seven months ago) link

if only there was a UK party with water, energy, postal services and broadband into public ownership all to be brought into public ownership in their manifesto, they'd piss the next GE!

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 24 April 2024 18:00 (seven months ago) link

scuse the typing just had a strong Baileys coffee and brain already gone

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 24 April 2024 18:01 (seven months ago) link

lol, the only UK party calling for publicly owned water has 1 MP in Westminster. That's some real pressure on the Labour/Tory duopoly on shit. Oh sorry the Lib Dems are calling for "stronger regulation" lol!

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 24 April 2024 18:20 (seven months ago) link

Why dream small when you can copy the existing Tory plan for nationalising some of the railways?

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 25 April 2024 07:53 (seven months ago) link

Lol

Wonder if Thames Water will collapse before the election.

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 25 April 2024 08:10 (seven months ago) link

Fingers crossed.

Not waving but droning (Tom D.), Thursday, 25 April 2024 08:17 (seven months ago) link

"A tough day for the UK: we say goodbye to Robert Peston"

very funny headline i'm repeatedly being served on almost all platforms right now -- not least bcz it links to a faked-up BBC webpage and a fully false story (that the bank of england is suing peston for spilling the beans on-air, about how rich people use one neat trick get rich) (which bankers for some reason hate)

mark s, Thursday, 25 April 2024 12:09 (seven months ago) link

Good luck Robert Peston

Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 25 April 2024 12:21 (seven months ago) link

That is a really sad day for the UK!

If you see a "We say goodbye to Robert Peston" @peston advert on @facebook with something that looks like BBC news please be aware it is a FAKE and may contain malware that might do your computer damage. See the URL in the screenshot. It is NOT the BBC News website. DON'T click pic.twitter.com/o3qdA68jR0

— Tony Brett (he/him) (@tonybrett) January 17, 2024

Platinum Penguin Pavilion (soref), Thursday, 25 April 2024 12:27 (seven months ago) link

Robert Peston's been doing my brain damage for years so this seems apt.

Not waving but droning (Tom D.), Thursday, 25 April 2024 12:34 (seven months ago) link

the exclamation marks are a bit of a dead giveaway.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 25 April 2024 12:40 (seven months ago) link

the malware is us

mark s, Thursday, 25 April 2024 12:42 (seven months ago) link

!

mark s, Thursday, 25 April 2024 12:42 (seven months ago) link

I'd like to be rich and put one over on those bankers tho

Ethinically Ambigaus (Bananaman Begins), Thursday, 25 April 2024 12:50 (seven months ago) link

there was a weird spate of "RIP Peston" fake stories a few months ago.. did not realise pesto was such irrestistible spam bait

Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 25 April 2024 13:29 (seven months ago) link

the people of this great nation are united in their desire to see robert peston dead

memphis milano: the new trend of the 80s (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 25 April 2024 13:36 (seven months ago) link

Peston as the man with the Truth being chased down by sinister govt agents in a 70's conspiracy thriller

Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 25 April 2024 14:52 (seven months ago) link

The Mackintosh Prat

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 25 April 2024 15:18 (seven months ago) link

So. Farewell Pesto
You were constantly baffled by flagrant corruption and lying
"What can this mean?" you pondered
Some may accuse you of
performative stupidity
But I
liked you

E.J. Thribb (17½)

glumdalclitch, Thursday, 25 April 2024 15:27 (seven months ago) link

Robert Peston put his vest on
Lights! Wanker! Action!

( X '____' )/ (zappi), Thursday, 25 April 2024 15:29 (seven months ago) link

I don’t think I’ve ever uncringe from this. Always remember that some of the thickest fuckers on this planet achieve high status and great power simply from the confidence and contacts that a privileged upbringing gives them pic.twitter.com/LNU9ThekCH

— Nooruddean (@BeardedGenius) April 26, 2024

xyzzzz__, Friday, 26 April 2024 10:17 (seven months ago) link

Nothing but burning large parts of this country will do tbh

xyzzzz__, Friday, 26 April 2024 10:18 (seven months ago) link

It's an indictment that this guy is in a job at all after Mick Lynch comprehensively humiliated him that time on Newsnight or Preston or wherever.

Not waving but droning (Tom D.), Friday, 26 April 2024 10:22 (seven months ago) link

Peston Knob End

alright cheers

Ethinically Ambigaus (Bananaman Begins), Friday, 26 April 2024 10:36 (seven months ago) link

Var check complete, zing stands

Bitchin Doutai (Noodle Vague), Friday, 26 April 2024 11:35 (seven months ago) link

Good piece.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/apr/26/cost-of-living-crisis-uk-prices

Though this bit is hilarious.

"The government sometimes encourages this misunderstanding. Last July, Rishi Sunak told the radio station LBC: “If we bring inflation down, people will have more money to spend.” For a former chancellor, someone supposed to understand the economy better than almost anyone, it seemed a weirdly over-optimistic prediction."

Bet you anything Sunak is a thick fucker and doesn't actually get it.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 26 April 2024 11:40 (seven months ago) link

There are many things that people don't WANT to understand, obv

Bitchin Doutai (Noodle Vague), Friday, 26 April 2024 11:42 (seven months ago) link

Talking about not understanding, can anyone explain what on earth is happening in the Scottish government?

glumdalclitch, Friday, 26 April 2024 13:51 (seven months ago) link

Reading about this. Regan is a transphobe so Yousaf either gets back in with the Greens or chooses this wreck

"How do the numbers stack up?

The SNP have 63 MSPs who can presumably be counted on to support Yousaf and vote against the motion.

The Conservatives, Labour, Lib Dems and Greens have 64 MSPs between them who are expected to back the motion.

That would leave Alba's sole MSP Ash Regan with the power to determine the outcome. In such a scenario, if she voted against Yousaf, he would lose 65-63. But if she supported Yousaf, the result would be 64-64, and in the event of a tie the presiding officer casts a deciding vote, which by tradition is always for the status quo - meaning the first minister would win the confidence vote."

xyzzzz__, Friday, 26 April 2024 13:58 (seven months ago) link

Thanks. So what is the cause of this? is it disagreement over the hate crime bill? Or is it about the reneging of the net zero target?

glumdalclitch, Friday, 26 April 2024 14:01 (seven months ago) link

the main issue was the reneging of the net zero target. the greens were going to take a vote among their membership to decide whether or not to walk away from the coalition. Huzma preempted this by terminating the pact.

stirmonster, Friday, 26 April 2024 14:08 (seven months ago) link

The SNP's decision to pause access to puberty blockers for under-18s was another source of anger among many Greens.

stirmonster, Friday, 26 April 2024 14:09 (seven months ago) link

tempting to say "well fuck him" then. who's the likely replacement?

This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 26 April 2024 14:14 (seven months ago) link

xp
Cheers. I know Yousaf could still survive this, but seems like he's not playing this very well/trying to make friends.

glumdalclitch, Friday, 26 April 2024 14:14 (seven months ago) link

i'm not sure who is the likely repalcement. This is one of the SNP's biggest problems; they don't really have anyone I can think of (who might want the job that is) who is going to bring them back from the brink.

Apart from on Gaza, Yousaf has been very poor imo.

stirmonster, Friday, 26 April 2024 14:22 (seven months ago) link

He's fucking hopeless, I suspect most SNP supporters want rid of him.

Not waving but droning (Tom D.), Friday, 26 April 2024 14:22 (seven months ago) link

Thanks stir monster was just coming to post more but yes it's interesting how good The Scottish Greens have been here. Quite impressed by their internal party democracy.

Doesn't sound like Yousaf is much of a politician.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 26 April 2024 14:22 (seven months ago) link

Sadly this sounds like another fucking + for Labour come the General election :-(

xyzzzz__, Friday, 26 April 2024 14:23 (seven months ago) link

sadly it does but the hatred for Scottish Labour does run very deep so i'm trying to remain optimistic they may not see the gains they are anticipating.

stirmonster, Friday, 26 April 2024 14:27 (seven months ago) link

Any chance The Scottish Greens could gain seats from this

glumdalclitch, Friday, 26 April 2024 14:49 (seven months ago) link

i think it is very unlikely they could win a seat at the general election.

stirmonster, Friday, 26 April 2024 14:58 (seven months ago) link

From the outside this seems like a problem of Hamza's own making and I can hardly feel bad for him

Bitchin Doutai (Noodle Vague), Friday, 26 April 2024 15:45 (seven months ago) link

I assume he heard that the Greens' decision was on its way, and decided to get out in front of it? He did have plenty of opportunities to bend the knee to the GC during the leadership campaign and didn't take them, Continuity Sturgeon is basically all he's got. Of course that's a harder brand after the her husband was arrested for the second time this week.

Andrew Farrell, Saturday, 27 April 2024 14:49 (seven months ago) link

"Top Tory MP"?

Not waving but droning (Tom D.), Saturday, 27 April 2024 16:23 (seven months ago) link

A Tory MP and former health minister has staged a dramatic defection to Labour, saying the Labour Party have become a “nationalist party of the right” that has abandoned ­compassion and no longer prioritises the NHS.

Bernard Quidbins (NickB), Saturday, 27 April 2024 16:29 (seven months ago) link

i've got some bad news for him about the Labour Party

Bitchin Doutai (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 27 April 2024 16:30 (seven months ago) link

"crossing the floor" eh?

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 27 April 2024 17:29 (seven months ago) link

it would have been a hell of a story if it happened when Labour had the crazy utopian policy of funding the NHS adequately

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 27 April 2024 17:37 (seven months ago) link

Toby Belm somehow always has the scoop on right wing Labour

Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 27 April 2024 17:51 (seven months ago) link

Sadly this sounds like another fucking + for Labour come the General election :-(

Just heard some smug Labour supporting journalist - English, of course - saying the SNP will be "wiped out" at the next election and then some 12 year old Tory journalist - also English - cooing over the idea that the SNP will "fade into obscurity". We'll see.

Not waving but droning (Tom D.), Sunday, 28 April 2024 11:54 (seven months ago) link

It's all bollocks but I guess after a period of dominance some people might stay home?

Everything has come up for Labour.

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 28 April 2024 14:12 (seven months ago) link

I expect SNP will lose a lot of seats but "wiped out"? Well he's a Labour supporter, he would should know all about electoral wipe outs in Scotland.

Not waving but droning (Tom D.), Sunday, 28 April 2024 14:21 (seven months ago) link

Yeah it's bollocks. They may lose seats, but they'll be back when they sort out the leadership, which is clearly not up to scratch.

Just 15 mins of Lab in power will get the stay at home Tories back. Suspect it will be even more the case with the snp.

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 28 April 2024 14:36 (seven months ago) link

quite intrigued to see, if they actually win a majority, how long the Labour honeymoon will last

Bitchin Doutai (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 28 April 2024 14:46 (seven months ago) link

We saw last time around that even after murdering a million+ Iraqis it was 13 years long, as long as There Is No Alternative they will be fine.

This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Sunday, 28 April 2024 15:16 (seven months ago) link

hopefully it won't take too long for Starmer to get the full Graham Taylor treatment. It would be amusing if the UK tabloid press adopted the derogatory "Kieth" moniker. Even without any substantial scandal or governmental fuckup he's so easy to clown - he's a dreary man who possibly has a drink problem and can't answer basic questions without awkward equivocation. He says/posts the stupidest things on a regular basis. There is plenty to work with.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 28 April 2024 15:28 (seven months ago) link

they aren't starting from anything like the relative economic prosperity that the 97 government stepped into, they'll almost certainly be facing a Tory party offering full fat fascism that the newspapers will be hugely enthusiastic about, and apart from all the failings calz just listed Kieth also seems to be a very brittle, vain man with less resilience under pressure than an amateur submarine full of billionaires

Bitchin Doutai (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 28 April 2024 15:36 (seven months ago) link

early New Labour policies like WFTC + CTC are rather a stark contrast with Sir Kid Starver, who is sticking to the Theresa May "don't overbreed if you can't afford 'em" principle. It was exclusionary shit that only applied to "families" but it still pushed a lot of ppl a few inches above the poverty line. Starmer Labour won't have anything like that to point at if accused of political inertia.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 28 April 2024 16:37 (seven months ago) link

I’d be surprised if they have anything like the 97 majority either

From his colouring & bloat it’s pretty clear starmer spent the lockdown years much the same way I did — “relatable” I guess but everyone knows a ton of pols have been sauced all the time, it’s a basically unremarkable trait

subpost master (wins), Sunday, 28 April 2024 16:45 (seven months ago) link

I don't know that "sort the leader out" is that easy, the coalition has been fraying for a while. Alba might suck up the terfs, and Scottish Labour has been given a long leash on "the left wing alternative to the SNP" - Anas Sarwar's response to the CASS report was "The Scottish Government should produce one of our own" which is definitely not the line from Starmer. I mean, the leash will tighten a lot after a Labour win (and I'm a lot more pessimistic than most of you of Labour getting a small enough majority that Starmer has to listen to anyone), but people vote for illusions all the time.

Andrew Farrell, Sunday, 28 April 2024 18:41 (seven months ago) link

“dreary man who possibly has a drink problem” is all time

Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Sunday, 28 April 2024 18:43 (seven months ago) link

Quite a large constituency that.

Not waving but droning (Tom D.), Sunday, 28 April 2024 19:22 (seven months ago) link

I’d be surprised if they have anything like the 97 majority either

I think it will be even bigger unless something dramatic and unexpected happens

Nasty, Brutish & Short, Sunday, 28 April 2024 21:48 (seven months ago) link

I don't think it's a case of the dramatic & unexpected, Kieth has already alienated vast swathes of muslim voters, many of which could be in marginal constituencies. And expecting a bigger majority than '97 is crazy talk. And also I think it would be a disaster tbh. But I fucking hate these cunts so I might be a bit conflicted here.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 28 April 2024 22:24 (seven months ago) link

the Tory vote is never going to be as low as the polling suggests. Their activists were like ants in my area in '19. I think Labour will have a weaker ground game than in in ,19. They have lost a lot of the enthusiastic fools who used to knock on doors and have been told they aren't welcome anymore. In fptp they could get 2-3 million less votes than Corbyn did and still win a big majority, but I think it will be much closer.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 28 April 2024 22:58 (seven months ago) link

https://x.com/Aiannucci/status/1784836866186809565

must be a GE coming soon, Armando is back on his REGISTER TO VOTE campaign. Yep, that's some sharp analysis of the utter wretchedness of UK politics - we just need more voters.. lol

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 29 April 2024 08:25 (seven months ago) link

I could use my lovely blue tick to go off on some thousand word diatribe about how beyond awful these low-lying scoundrels are, but instead I’ll just stick with: register to vote, make sure you have the right ID to vote, and vote. pic.twitter.com/QsCMWGLdld

— Armando Iannucci (@Aiannucci) April 29, 2024

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 29 April 2024 08:26 (seven months ago) link

no idea what’s going on but looks like HY has played a bad hand badly

LaMDA barry-stanners (||||||||), Monday, 29 April 2024 08:37 (seven months ago) link

the Tory vote is never going to be as low as the polling suggests

I've 50 on them to win most seats. Its an outside bet obviously but I think they're being prematurely counted out. There's also a particular category of voter I don't think polling really captures very well - people who vote for the winner. Most of the time this is the incumbent, but when a particular victory is predicted and choreographed in advance, subconsciously the incoming party becomes perceived as the having already won, already being the incumbent. Questions about which party a voter prefers doesn't necessarily get at this

anvil, Monday, 29 April 2024 08:50 (seven months ago) link

I'm definitely expecting turnout to be the lowest ever.

I've left the box of soup near your shoes (Tom D.), Monday, 29 April 2024 08:54 (seven months ago) link

is it correct that the scottish government appears to have blown itself up for no apparent reason?

ufo, Monday, 29 April 2024 08:58 (seven months ago) link

There's also a particular category of voter I don't think polling really captures very well - people who vote for the winner. Most of the time this is the incumbent, but when a particular victory is predicted and choreographed in advance, subconsciously the incoming party becomes perceived as the having already won, already being the incumbent. Questions about which party a voter prefers doesn't necessarily get at this

This is true, but I don't see how the tories have time to win this bunch round, Keith has been more or less declared the winner

Ethinically Ambigaus (Bananaman Begins), Monday, 29 April 2024 09:05 (seven months ago) link

The messaging, even from the Tories themselves, is that the election has already happened, and voting is a matter of dotting the I's and crossing the t's. I don't think its a question so much of if the Tories have time to turn it around, but whether the above has actually happened in the minds of voters. I think this is probably the case but not definitively the case

anvil, Monday, 29 April 2024 09:14 (seven months ago) link

many of which could be in marginal constituencies.

According to the MRP, Sunak's in a marginal seat.

I hope you're right, but i guess we'll see what happens after the locals anyway.

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 29 April 2024 09:42 (seven months ago) link

I got one of them BNP leaflets from Labour telling me I should vote for change in the local elections because the Tories have increased average energy bills and taxes.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 29 April 2024 10:00 (seven months ago) link

Yousaf is toast lol

xyzzzz__, Monday, 29 April 2024 10:41 (seven months ago) link

At least he didn't cut a deal with Alba

xyzzzz__, Monday, 29 April 2024 10:43 (seven months ago) link

Yousaf OUT

The candidates:
Bald bloke
Balding bloke
Terf
Not a terf (?)

a fatal dose of irony (Matt #2), Monday, 29 April 2024 11:27 (seven months ago) link

After five mins of twitter research I reckon Gilruth isn't a TERF, or at the least the TERFs seem angrily sure she isn't one of them. She's also married to Kezia Dugdale, which could be interesting.

This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 29 April 2024 12:54 (seven months ago) link

Kate Forbes was born in 1990. Crivens!

I've left the box of soup near your shoes (Tom D.), Monday, 29 April 2024 12:55 (seven months ago) link

tbf she seems like she was born in 1890.

I've left the box of soup near your shoes (Tom D.), Monday, 29 April 2024 12:59 (seven months ago) link

She looks like the child of Helen Lewis and Brendan O'Neill

This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 29 April 2024 13:00 (seven months ago) link

bald guy#2 is almost as ugly as Ian Murray

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 29 April 2024 13:18 (seven months ago) link

Swinney seems to be a shoo-in despite being the most grey and boring man in the entire history of Scotland.

I've left the box of soup near your shoes (Tom D.), Monday, 29 April 2024 13:31 (seven months ago) link

Swinney is awful. I can't get to the end of him saying one sentence without wanting to kill myself.

Not a terf(?) seems the best option.

stirmonster, Monday, 29 April 2024 14:04 (seven months ago) link

is it correct that the scottish government appears to have blown itself up for no apparent reason?

― ufo, Monday, 29 April 2024 bookmarkflaglink

As a distant observer this appears to be the case to me. Really feels like it didn't need to happen.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 29 April 2024 16:36 (seven months ago) link

Not really checked out how the London mayoral election is going and

No one should have to pay Sadiq Khan £12.50 to vote.

Today I am calling for Sadiq Khan to put the politics to one side and suspend the ULEZ on polling day, so no one is disenfranchised by his ULEZ tax.https://t.co/1PH3QMsV6x

— Susan Hall AM (@Councillorsuzie) April 29, 2024

xyzzzz__, Monday, 29 April 2024 21:41 (seven months ago) link

Not easy the long 30 second drive to the polling station tbf

nashwan, Monday, 29 April 2024 21:51 (seven months ago) link

Imagine Parnesar knocking on your door at a general election.

Beats the drummer from Blur!

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 30 April 2024 17:16 (seven months ago) link

my only real memory of him is he represented my old university on University Challenge and didn't say a single word after introducing himself, answered zero questions.

koogs, Tuesday, 30 April 2024 17:16 (seven months ago) link

(Celeb University Challenge, the easy one)

koogs, Tuesday, 30 April 2024 17:18 (seven months ago) link

Some candidates have a background in fringe causes. The South Northamptonshire candidate, Mick Stott, is a former soldier who tried to recruit “common-law constables” to outnumber the police, who he believed were acting unlawfully during lockdown.

lol!

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 30 April 2024 17:21 (seven months ago) link

I miss the old cuddly attention- hungry cranks, nowadays you know it's all fash-pilled losers

Bitchin Doutai (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 30 April 2024 17:32 (seven months ago) link

Too tired and sad to even moan about the different ways these crimes are reported depending on race

Bitchin Doutai (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 30 April 2024 18:08 (seven months ago) link

Tories and media trying to pin this on Sadiq Khan is truly desperate.

I've left the box of soup near your shoes (Tom D.), Wednesday, 1 May 2024 07:20 (seven months ago) link

It’s disgusting.

steely flan (suzy), Wednesday, 1 May 2024 07:42 (seven months ago) link

Not sure why some people insist Kemi Badenoch "isn't that bad really".

https://news.stv.tv/world/british-ingenuity-not-colonialism-drove-uk-growth-says-kemi-badenoch

I've left the box of soup near your shoes (Tom D.), Wednesday, 1 May 2024 14:25 (seven months ago) link

They're kidnapping people from their homes. Horrific. https://t.co/qV7Eiad1qH

— Benny Hunter (@BennnyH) May 1, 2024

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 1 May 2024 15:32 (seven months ago) link

Home Office must be burnt to the ground, as shoukd this country

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 1 May 2024 15:34 (seven months ago) link

i checked really hard to see if this was a spoof

🗞️ 𝐄𝐗𝐂𝐋𝐔𝐒𝐈𝐕𝐄 🗞️

Sir Keir Starmer: My role in bringing Declan Rice to Arsenal

⏰ Dropping at 6.30am tomorrow on @TeleFootball#TelegraphFootball | @JBurtTelegraph pic.twitter.com/lGRKFDCYQ1

— Telegraph Football (@TeleFootball) May 1, 2024

Bitchin Doutai (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 1 May 2024 22:24 (seven months ago) link

that tweet that xyzzz posted :(

Bernard Quidbins (NickB), Wednesday, 1 May 2024 22:29 (seven months ago) link

xp

omg @ Starmer's laboured attempt at wacky gunners' fan humour in that Times interview, all involved should die of embarrassment.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 2 May 2024 07:43 (seven months ago) link

🗞️ 𝐄𝐗𝐂𝐋𝐔𝐒𝐈𝐕𝐄 🗞️

Sir Keir Starmer: My role in making Declan Rice relinquish any claim to Irishness.

"I looked him in the eyes and said, 'They shot Shergar. They panicked and shot him to death with uzis.' It took an hour for him to die. Blood everywhere. Awful." https://t.co/bBhWd72Gcj

— Samplo Corvodina (@TreborRhurbarb) May 1, 2024

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 2 May 2024 07:59 (seven months ago) link

Was it Declan Rice who tweeted "Up the 'RA" when he was a teenager?

I've left the box of soup near your shoes (Tom D.), Thursday, 2 May 2024 08:57 (seven months ago) link

... I liked him then.

I've left the box of soup near your shoes (Tom D.), Thursday, 2 May 2024 08:57 (seven months ago) link

I thought Kieth was all for shooting large quadrupeds

Bitchin Doutai (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 2 May 2024 08:58 (seven months ago) link

Not sure why some people insist Kemi Badenoch "isn't that bad really".

https://news.stv.tv/world/british-ingenuity-not-colonialism-drove-uk-growth-says-kemi-badenoch

Idk, I think most people who aren't ConHome commenters consider "Kemi isn't that bad really" as synonymous with "I am an enormous danger"

I liked the euphemism of "specialist historians" for "people who have any idea what they're talking about"

Also loved the point in the last paragraph - even if this wasn't bollocks, they're saying the Empire maintained colonial rule and control against its own economic interests?

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 2 May 2024 12:30 (seven months ago) link

"India did not have a zero-growth rate of GDP under British rule; it had a negative rate." to quote Amartya Sen.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 2 May 2024 12:52 (seven months ago) link

that tweet that xyzzz posted :(

― Bernard Quidbins (NickB), Wednesday, 1 May 2024 bookmarkflaglink

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/article/2024/may/02/london-protesters-block-coach-peckham-asylum-seekers-bibby-stockholm

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 2 May 2024 12:53 (seven months ago) link

An empty taxi pulled up to Holyrood and out stepped the new Scottish First Minister.

I've left the box of soup near your shoes (Tom D.), Thursday, 2 May 2024 13:19 (seven months ago) link

so those local election / Blackpool South by-election results eh?

(no I have nothing to say about them either)

This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 3 May 2024 06:19 (seven months ago) link

yeah that was pretty funny

This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 3 May 2024 06:27 (seven months ago) link

apparently it was "seismic" that roughly the average attendance at Bloomfield Road voted for Labour in the locals in a 30 odd % lower turnout than usual.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 3 May 2024 06:27 (seven months ago) link

Labour losing plenty of seats to Greens/Independents, luckily that's the not the main agenda so i'm sure they'll tell us they're doing great

Bitchin Doutai (Noodle Vague), Friday, 3 May 2024 06:29 (seven months ago) link

oops, S Blackpool was a by-election, but point stands

tbf on Boris, Kieth has disenfranchised more voters than the ID scheme ever could

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 3 May 2024 06:31 (seven months ago) link

so far Labour have only gained 13 more seats than Greens and Independents combined, that seems just as significant as the predictable Tory wipeout

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 3 May 2024 07:24 (seven months ago) link

.. sorry councillors not seats

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 3 May 2024 07:24 (seven months ago) link

In an interview with the BBC, Keir Starmer was asked if he was concerned that his position on Gaza was costing him vote. (It has been cited as the reason, or part of the reason, for Labour losing control of Oldham council.) In response, Starmer did not really engage with the question. He said that he was concerned wherever the party was losing votes. But he went on:

"But there’s no denying that across the country, whether is Hartlepool in the north, or Rushmoor in the south [in Hampshire], or Redditch, bellwether seats, we are winning votes across the country. And that, I think, reflects a changed the Labour party with a positive case to take to the country."

Translation of this mealy-mouthed blathering: IDGAF

Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Friday, 3 May 2024 08:38 (seven months ago) link

so far

Independants/Greens +52
Labour +52

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 3 May 2024 08:49 (seven months ago) link

TUSC 32.2% in Southampton Bevois. Second place; beat the Greens, Conservatives, & Lib Dems; would need an 8.2% swing to win

— Edmund Griffiths (@EdmundGriffiths) May 3, 2024

xyzzzz__, Friday, 3 May 2024 09:11 (seven months ago) link

Labour are vermin.

I never thought I’d be nostalgic for the days when this stuff was hinted at and not said out loud. pic.twitter.com/xBFSXMW26q

— Flying_Rodent (@flying_rodent) May 3, 2024

xyzzzz__, Friday, 3 May 2024 10:18 (seven months ago) link

they aren't just cribbing the campaign leaflet style from the BNP. Sickening people.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 3 May 2024 10:24 (seven months ago) link

One of the few positives from last night

Haven't heard a single story about a young person not being able to vote today due to lack of ID.

As expected, it's older people who have run into problems. https://t.co/VW35sYri1A

— Tom Harwood (@tomhfh) May 2, 2024

xyzzzz__, Friday, 3 May 2024 10:29 (seven months ago) link

Keep going guys.

Birmingham Labour source calling West Midlands mayoralty for Andy Street. “We have beaten him as a general rule, but the Muslim vote has collapsed to the Galloway-backed independent.”

— Patrick Maguire (@patrickkmaguire) May 3, 2024

xyzzzz__, Friday, 3 May 2024 10:40 (seven months ago) link

Boohoo

I've left the box of soup near your shoes (Tom D.), Friday, 3 May 2024 10:47 (seven months ago) link

As a general rule

Ethinically Ambigaus (Bananaman Begins), Friday, 3 May 2024 11:34 (seven months ago) link

lol...

Labour source: 'It's the Middle East, not West Midlands that will have won Street the Mayoralty. Once again Hamas are the real villains.'

— Rob Mayor (@robmayor) May 3, 2024

Please, keep this shit up, Labour sources

glumdalclitch, Friday, 3 May 2024 11:36 (seven months ago) link

So gracious in defeat, so grown up

Bitchin Doutai (Noodle Vague), Friday, 3 May 2024 12:01 (seven months ago) link

Didn't believe that could be a real quote but apparently so. You can't complain that other politicans are talking about Gaza too much and then blame Hamas for losing

a3poify, Friday, 3 May 2024 12:05 (seven months ago) link

when faced with some democratic accountability, some political parties might have a period of self-reflection. Labour though, they just issue bitter racial slurs through their press office and give their MPs carte blanche to do the same on social media.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 3 May 2024 12:22 (seven months ago) link

That “as a general rule” quote is despicable. Wow!

Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Friday, 3 May 2024 12:31 (seven months ago) link

labour source: osamathumbsup.jpg

memphis milano: the new trend of the 80s (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 3 May 2024 12:32 (seven months ago) link

A Labour Party Spokesperson said: ‘The Labour party has strongly condemned this racist quote which has not come from anyone who is speaking on behalf of the party or who’s values are welcome in the party.’ https://t.co/2ujcgsjx7C

— Rob Mayor (@robmayor) May 3, 2024



look at this fucking loser just tweeting out texts they get without bothering, for example, to pass comment on the original source they happily quoted!

Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Friday, 3 May 2024 12:40 (seven months ago) link

Labour Party spokesperson condemns himself for racist quote.

I've left the box of soup near your shoes (Tom D.), Friday, 3 May 2024 12:45 (seven months ago) link

Too bizarre that Rob Mayor is reporting on the mayoral contests

Wonder if Akehurst will ever be considered a liability by the top brass

glumdalclitch, Friday, 3 May 2024 12:50 (seven months ago) link

looking forward to pete starmersbeenkilledbyafallingpiano's reporting on the general election

memphis milano: the new trend of the 80s (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 3 May 2024 13:37 (seven months ago) link

“muslims, who we hate btw, should have voted for us” another winning labour party strategy there

— michael wave (@SzMarsupial) May 3, 2024

Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Friday, 3 May 2024 14:50 (seven months ago) link

Ungrateful heathens.

I've left the box of soup near your shoes (Tom D.), Friday, 3 May 2024 14:55 (seven months ago) link

the other day I saw something about Mandelson writing that parties should be able to select their own MPs rather than members. Similar to: ppl shouldn't have free elections, if minorities aren't voting for us then they are obv not well informed enough to vote.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 3 May 2024 15:21 (seven months ago) link

🚨 Workers Party GAINS Central Rochdale Ward (Rochdale)

🔴 WPB 53% (+53)
🔴 LAB 41% (-32)
🟠 LD 4% (-14)
🔵 CON 3% (-7)

Workers Party GAIN from Labour pic.twitter.com/ONWb1R9QVF

— Stats for Lefties 🍉🏳️‍⚧️ (@LeftieStats) May 3, 2024

xyzzzz__, Friday, 3 May 2024 15:23 (seven months ago) link

-32 lol

I've left the box of soup near your shoes (Tom D.), Friday, 3 May 2024 15:27 (seven months ago) link

I’m just out here wondering how many voters would have to be angry enough at Starmer to elect his indie challenger at the general.

steely flan (suzy), Friday, 3 May 2024 15:27 (seven months ago) link

If Israel goes into Rafah and Labour don't play it right this could have major repurcussions for Labour.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 3 May 2024 15:31 (seven months ago) link

The thing is they won't be winning those votes back any time soon - although they have so much contempt for this particular group of voters that I'm sure they think they'll come crawling back to them. It's taken them years to claw back working class voters in Scotland, it's taken the SNP turning into a total shitshow and even then they've not sealed the deal.

I've left the box of soup near your shoes (Tom D.), Friday, 3 May 2024 15:36 (seven months ago) link

The contempt shown to Muslims by this iteration of Labour is really something! Why would you alienate 2.5 million voters who’d normally be with you? Are LFI/JLM-friendly donors so worth it?

I am absolutely sure that Jeremy Corbyn having basic respect and affection for Muslims really stuck in the craw of those on the right of Labour, which is full of Islamophobes and middle class briefcase wankers who only know how to cope with their own ilk.

steely flan (suzy), Friday, 3 May 2024 15:43 (seven months ago) link

I don't think the leadership care all that much about all the bad results here, or how it looks. It's a feature not a bug of their strategy that they will win a majority at the GE without enthusiasm, with a low turnout, and with disgust and low support from some constituencies (in the informal sense) that, as Suzy says, supported the previous leadership. This allows them to signal to their new white and racist voting base that they're "a changed party" (one time Starmer's not lying). They want to put mass democracy back in its box, and ensure it stays there, dissatisfied and disenfranchised, voting for independents who aren't united in a party structure. This way they can handle politics in the back rooms with the lobbyists. The only thorn in this could the The Worker's Party, but that should worry the rest of us too.

glumdalclitch, Friday, 3 May 2024 15:57 (seven months ago) link

The older Galloway gets, the more vain and venal he becomes. He won’t be elected again in Rochdale because in this century he does FA for constituents.

steely flan (suzy), Friday, 3 May 2024 16:02 (seven months ago) link

it would be preferable that Labour lose seats to Greens/CPoB/fuck knows, any indie that isn't a fashbol anti-vaxxer allied with that vile pig.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 3 May 2024 16:05 (seven months ago) link

xp
Yeah, but will be interesting to see if he can cobble together the hundreds of candidates he says he has, or if that's all bullshit. I think he could certainly upset or damage Labour in a few races if he does.

glumdalclitch, Friday, 3 May 2024 16:07 (seven months ago) link

you have to hope that whenever Galloway gets a national platform he loses potential voters

Bitchin Doutai (Noodle Vague), Friday, 3 May 2024 16:15 (seven months ago) link

Pinch of salt with of course differing natures of locals vs GE but still !!

https://news.sky.com/story/sky-news-projection-labour-on-course-to-be-largest-party-but-short-of-overall-majority-13128242

Using the latest figures from the local elections, it can be projected that Labour is on course to be the largest party in parliament - but falls short of a Commons majority by 32 seats.

glumdalclitch, Friday, 3 May 2024 16:39 (seven months ago) link

i would love to believe, but i don't see how that accounts for the likelihood of indies/Greens struggling more in a general election

Bitchin Doutai (Noodle Vague), Friday, 3 May 2024 16:41 (seven months ago) link

with the turnaround between the bye-election and the general being so short I think Galloway has a high chance to winning again. If it were 12-18 months apart he'd lose support, but I don't see it happening in such a short space of time

anvil, Friday, 3 May 2024 16:41 (seven months ago) link

Not looking good for Thangam Debbonaire

The Greens have won all 14 council seats in the wards that make up the Bristol Central constituency where she’s standing at general election

— John Stevens (@johnestevens) May 3, 2024

xyzzzz__, Friday, 3 May 2024 22:46 (seven months ago) link

Not only are Sky projecting that Labour won't win an overall majority in a General Election but they're short of it by 32 seats. Good job, Starmer.

I've left the box of soup near your shoes (Tom D.), Saturday, 4 May 2024 11:14 (seven months ago) link

I'm going to love that moment when it is confirmed that they have absolutely fucked themselves. There is going to be some incredible "oh no we've fucked it" reaction gifs.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 4 May 2024 11:20 (seven months ago) link

xp is this because the Lib Dems/Greens/independents have been doing quite well in the council results? (and not because than the tory vote has held up any better than expected) - it seems plausible a lot of those voters will still vote Labour in a general election, however unenthusiastically, to make sure the tories don't get back in?

Platinum Penguin Pavilion (soref), Saturday, 4 May 2024 11:24 (seven months ago) link

https://news.sky.com/story/sky-news-projection-labour-on-course-to-be-largest-party-but-short-of-overall-majority-13128242

This figure assumes also that votes for the nationalist parties in Scotland and Wales, places where no local elections took place, are unchanged from the previous election.

this seems a questionable assumption for Scotland at least?

Platinum Penguin Pavilion (soref), Saturday, 4 May 2024 11:29 (seven months ago) link

The odds haven't changed much on any of the potential outcomes yet

anvil, Saturday, 4 May 2024 11:39 (seven months ago) link

They're only 9% ahead of the Tories in vote share.

I've left the box of soup near your shoes (Tom D.), Saturday, 4 May 2024 12:02 (seven months ago) link

Looks like the "sadiq khan might lose!" story was a load of nonsense then.

This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 4 May 2024 12:29 (seven months ago) link

Unless he's completely tanked in the outer boroughs.

I've left the box of soup near your shoes (Tom D.), Saturday, 4 May 2024 12:55 (seven months ago) link

it would have to be a spectacular tanking at this stage

This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 4 May 2024 12:57 (seven months ago) link

Relieved I didn't need to vote for him then

glumdalclitch, Saturday, 4 May 2024 13:02 (seven months ago) link

Yes, he's just won in my area by 90,000+ votes!

I've left the box of soup near your shoes (Tom D.), Saturday, 4 May 2024 13:02 (seven months ago) link

https://twitter.com/LabAcceler/status/1786742581793042727

glumdalclitch, Saturday, 4 May 2024 13:03 (seven months ago) link

not by any means his greatest fan but if he had lost the message would have been "islamophobia and anti-environmentalism are key vote-winners" and that had the potential to make things in this country even worse.

This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 4 May 2024 13:06 (seven months ago) link

it seems plausible a lot of those voters will still vote Labour in a general election, however unenthusiastically, to make sure the tories don't get back in?

― Platinum Penguin Pavilion (soref), Saturday, 4 May 2024 bookmarkflaglink

Its not just a question of enthusiasm

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 4 May 2024 13:07 (seven months ago) link

Not only are Sky projecting that Labour won't win an overall majority in a General Election but they're short of it by 32 seats. Good job, Starmer.

― I've left the box of soup near your shoes (Tom D.), Saturday, 4 May 2024 bookmarkflaglink

Worse than Corbyn in 2017.

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 4 May 2024 13:11 (seven months ago) link

While I know a few Muslims who stayed home for the London elections, I know Hall’s rhetoric summoned countless others who might not vote Lab in the general to stand in solidarity with Khan and against the racism he is subjected to.

steely flan (suzy), Saturday, 4 May 2024 13:22 (seven months ago) link

loads of dim folks with union jacks on their profiles are posting RIP London. I've seen one from Devon, one from Manchester etc...

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 4 May 2024 14:45 (seven months ago) link

I'm not a fan of Khan at all, but do respect his piss-boiling game today

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 4 May 2024 14:52 (seven months ago) link

Can't stand the little shit but he's up against all manner of racists, Islamophobes, conspiracy nuts and fascists.

I've left the box of soup near your shoes (Tom D.), Saturday, 4 May 2024 15:20 (seven months ago) link

one of the first things he did when elected as London Mayor was undermine the fuck out of Corbyn in his acceptance speech.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 4 May 2024 15:26 (seven months ago) link

Oh aye his politics suck but fuck a fascist

Bitchin Doutai (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 4 May 2024 15:29 (seven months ago) link

It's important to add some context to this, Sky News HQ is just a 13 minute drive from the West London Islamic Centre. https://t.co/yoCiknVG4l

— Simon Hedges (@Orwell_Fan) May 4, 2024

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 4 May 2024 15:38 (seven months ago) link

This thread is like an oasis reading the absolute bullshit in the US politics thread. Jfc.

Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Saturday, 4 May 2024 15:54 (seven months ago) link

I'm not a fan of Khan at all, but do respect his piss-boiling game today

Worth pointing out that winning London mayoral race by 10pts (Curtice projection) when your party is 26pts ahead nationally and 34pts ahead in your city (YouGov) would be an utterly awful performance.

— Robert Colvile (@rcolvile) May 4, 2024

Platinum Penguin Pavilion (soref), Saturday, 4 May 2024 22:04 (seven months ago) link

yeah but Colvile's not a fash psycho he's a respectable journal constantly being platformed by some of the most respectable media outlets in the y'know what i'll shut up

Bitchin Doutai (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 4 May 2024 22:15 (seven months ago) link

the sky 'projection' of the local results to the general election seems to be pretty much nonsense, i wouldn't get your hopes up about labor failing to get a majority

ufo, Saturday, 4 May 2024 23:34 (seven months ago) link

Otm let’s not give Colvile any credit whatsoever. He’s a cunt.

Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Saturday, 4 May 2024 23:48 (seven months ago) link

"We stopped the Greens" https://t.co/F8BdnCaP36 pic.twitter.com/ug4tLd8mOG

— Alexander Louis Sallons (@sallonsax) May 4, 2024

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 5 May 2024 06:55 (seven months ago) link

Six months of this venal cunt left.

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 5 May 2024 07:11 (seven months ago) link

the sky 'projection' of the local results to the general election seems to be pretty much nonsense, i wouldn't get your hopes up about labor failing to get a majority

― ufo, Saturday, 4 May 2024 bookmarkflaglink

Please don't kill my hopes I already have none left

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 5 May 2024 07:24 (seven months ago) link

If yo think Labour will fail to get a majority there are still great odds on that if you want to back against it.

I think they'll probably get the majority but I don't think its the sure fire outcome its being presented as, and the odds to go against it were too good to pass up

anvil, Sunday, 5 May 2024 08:01 (seven months ago) link

Please don't kill my hopes I already have none left

Hey now, Suella Braverman is warning the Tories about the danger of losing the election to "Keir Starmer and his band of hard left radicals". You should be happy!

I've left the box of soup near your shoes (Tom D.), Sunday, 5 May 2024 10:10 (seven months ago) link

The "charisma of a peanut" diss is funny though. Looking forward to see where Kierndrick Stamarr takes this beef next.

(sorry)

glumdalclitch, Sunday, 5 May 2024 18:59 (seven months ago) link

I wonder if Natalie Elphick defecting to Labour means that she will be the Lab candidate in Dover and Deal at the election? NB the current Labour candidate for the seat is Mike Tapp, who has already been discussed on this thread

https://i.imgur.com/ZLzAryG.png

Platinum Penguin Pavilion (soref), Wednesday, 8 May 2024 11:26 (seven months ago) link

obviously Elphicke is terrible, but the leadership forcing this guy to step aside so that she can run in his place would be very funny, so I'm torn

https://www.crowdfunder.co.uk/uploads/projects/1519493.jpg?1684407186

Platinum Penguin Pavilion (soref), Wednesday, 8 May 2024 11:29 (seven months ago) link

Testing Mike Tapp

Bitchin Doutai (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 8 May 2024 11:57 (seven months ago) link

Natalie Elphicke, who has just been welcomed to the Labour Party by Sir Keir Starmer, cruelly and publicly tormented the victims of her sex offender ex-husband Charlie.

She claimed ***after his conviction*** that he had merely been punished for being "attractive and attracted"…

— Gabriel Pogrund (@Gabriel_Pogrund) May 8, 2024



Natalie Elphicke, who has just been welcomed to the Labour Party by Sir Keir Starmer, cruelly and publicly tormented the victims of her sex offender ex-husband Charlie.

She claimed ***after his conviction*** that he had merely been punished for being "attractive and attracted" to women.

She also pressured a judge in an improper attempt to influence his trial.

And she was gifted his seat behind-closed-doors and has never apologised.

There are other things I cannot report. But here you can read our investigation into the appalling protection racket of which she was part - as Elphicke sued the Sunday Times for reporting the truth: that he was accused of rape and sexual offences.

Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Wednesday, 8 May 2024 12:09 (seven months ago) link

fucking hell, there will actually be a more evil Labour MP than Rachel Reeves standing in the next GE. Didn't think that would be possible.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 8 May 2024 12:14 (seven months ago) link

Isn't she a horrible racist right winger? Good job, Labour Party!

I've left the box of soup near your shoes (Tom D.), Wednesday, 8 May 2024 12:15 (seven months ago) link

apparently she is not standing for re-election, so will only be sitting as a Lab MP for a few months at most, still seems questionable whether it's worth it for Labour, even if you're looking at it from a totally cynical pov

Platinum Penguin Pavilion (soref), Wednesday, 8 May 2024 12:19 (seven months ago) link

thanks kieth, very cool!

In recent weeks and months Natalie Elphicke has been speaking out in support of the Rwanda plan and attacking Labour for being an "open borders, pro-immigration" party. She's a nasty little racist and anyone celebrating that she's welcome in Labour is no progressive. pic.twitter.com/66CUG9CxNZ

— C (@Obseyxx) May 8, 2024

memphis milano: the new trend of the 80s (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 8 May 2024 12:36 (seven months ago) link

Yeah, but this is all before she had secret briefings with the leadership and they reassured her that in reality you can't get a rizla paper between labour and tory policy on this, so it's all good

glumdalclitch, Wednesday, 8 May 2024 12:46 (seven months ago) link

Welcome, @Sir_Oswald_69, the new Labour MP for Warley. pic.twitter.com/neXfFXS0lB

— jewdⒶs // ייִדהודה (@jewdas) May 8, 2024

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 8 May 2024 14:24 (seven months ago) link

It's a big tent and you're not in it https://t.co/IcM0v6XsZB pic.twitter.com/b7DMPzXols

— Spelling Mistakes Cost Lives (@darren_cullen) May 8, 2024

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 8 May 2024 14:25 (seven months ago) link

in other news, transphobe and dinosaur disbeliever kate forbes has been elected deputy first minister

good luck scotland

memphis milano: the new trend of the 80s (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 8 May 2024 14:51 (seven months ago) link

people just don't want to work anymore xp

memphis milano: the new trend of the 80s (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 8 May 2024 14:51 (seven months ago) link

lol, Panesar talks like an ultra-naif 16 year old school kid. Try the Reform Party next, kidder. They must be good ppl if they want to reform!

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 8 May 2024 15:41 (seven months ago) link

Monty living up to his celeb university challenge reputation

koogs, Wednesday, 8 May 2024 16:36 (seven months ago) link

"Every morning as I shave my head in the mirror, I have to pinch myself." - tory standing down from parliament letters with striking imagery

Platinum Penguin Pavilion (soref), Thursday, 9 May 2024 12:00 (seven months ago) link

"I ask myself, 'Are you talking to me?'"

Bitchin Doutai (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 9 May 2024 12:06 (seven months ago) link

the tories need to start playing 5d chess and have truss 'defect to labour'

ufo, Thursday, 9 May 2024 12:21 (seven months ago) link

I believe Andrew Bridgen is available for defection too.

I've left the box of soup near your shoes (Tom D.), Thursday, 9 May 2024 12:23 (seven months ago) link

I heard Andy Burnham pleading with ppl not to make snap judgements about Elphick and listen to what she has to say first. Yeah sure, someone who voted to criminalise abortion in N Ireland and with a long public record of being a nasty piece of work shouldn't be judged until you hear her talking about her new-found concerns about the housing crisis.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 9 May 2024 12:46 (seven months ago) link

Look it's obviously mad to make snap judgements based on years of voting patterns and public statements; much better to form a balanced and rational opinion based on what she's said in the 48 hours since a stunty political defection.

Tim, Thursday, 9 May 2024 13:05 (seven months ago) link

Andy Burnham: when you're more melty than fucking Mumsnet

glumdalclitch, Thursday, 9 May 2024 13:14 (seven months ago) link

I for one am glad every time Burnham reminds us that he is not in fact a dangerous radical who's too far left for the PLP

Bitchin Doutai (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 9 May 2024 15:49 (seven months ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/lmIIsIs.png

Platinum Penguin Pavilion (soref), Friday, 10 May 2024 18:39 (seven months ago) link

i'm sick of this shit, peanuts and crabs are both delicious and improve my life

Bitchin Doutai (Noodle Vague), Friday, 10 May 2024 19:56 (seven months ago) link

the lettucification of british politics

glumdalclitch, Friday, 10 May 2024 20:05 (seven months ago) link

crabs have more backbone than kieth

katy perry (prison service) (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 10 May 2024 20:07 (seven months ago) link

it seems a bit generous to compare a worthless piece of scum with a very characterful and tasty bottom feeding species.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 10 May 2024 20:11 (seven months ago) link

evolution hasn't independently produced keir starmer five different times.

ledge, Friday, 10 May 2024 21:01 (seven months ago) link

fucking hell

What a headline pic.twitter.com/0H2nQ9gHSN

— Taj Ali (@Taj_Ali1) May 12, 2024

katy perry (prison service) (bizarro gazzara), Sunday, 12 May 2024 20:18 (seven months ago) link

the only rational explanation could be that Wes is an even bigger piece of shit than Suella Braverman

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 12 May 2024 20:39 (seven months ago) link

obviously the tories have spotted an opportunity and will love outflanking labour from the left over the next parliament ("unpatriotic labour doesn't want to feed our kids")

glumdalclitch, Monday, 13 May 2024 09:52 (seven months ago) link

The economically illiterate lies that you can't print money and that when public/health services were more adequately funded, we were living beyond our means - despite national debt rising faster than ever during 14 years of austerity. That's a really inspiring basis for a Labour manifesto in 2024. Theresa May might as well cross the aisle next, she's probably a moderate next to some of these cunts. I mean she did block Starmer from deporting a vulnerable autistic straight into a US federal prison, for probably decades.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 13 May 2024 10:33 (seven months ago) link

it seems notable that Braverman frames her proposal to scrap the two child cap as carrying on the legacy as Frank Field, with these children being reassigned from the 'deserving poor' side of the ledger:

Abolishing the two-child limit would cost the Government £2.5bn in 2024/25. This money could be found by getting more out of work claimants off welfare and back into work, and perhaps introducing some form of means testing for pensioners.

means testing for pensioners is surely too bold a move for either the Tories or Labour to consider in the run up to a general election?

Platinum Penguin Pavilion (soref), Monday, 13 May 2024 10:37 (seven months ago) link

Desperate stuff from Sunak.

Here’s the passage of Rishi Sunak’s speech, under the heading ‘The dangers’, that starts with Russia, Iran, North Korea and China… and ends with Scottish nationalism, via Houthis, hackers, mass migration, anti-Semitism, and gender activism pic.twitter.com/Z8TuPcxI32

— Paris Gourtsoyannis (@PGourtsoyannis) May 13, 2024

I've left the box of soup near your shoes (Tom D.), Tuesday, 14 May 2024 13:07 (seven months ago) link

"vocal and aggressive fringe groups" such as the Conservative & Union Party

Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Tuesday, 14 May 2024 13:11 (seven months ago) link

Nice of him to come to the SNP's aid when their poll numbers are dropping - or is this a 5D chess move to stymie Labour in Scotland by reinvigorating the independence movement?

I've left the box of soup near your shoes (Tom D.), Tuesday, 14 May 2024 13:28 (seven months ago) link

I thought he was doing a remix of We Didn't Start the Fire tbh

Bitchin Doutai (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 14 May 2024 13:43 (seven months ago) link

"China has conducted cyber targeting of our democratically elected MPs"

they tried to hack Iain Duncan Smith's email, lol, like anyone actually gives a flying fuck!

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 14 May 2024 13:52 (seven months ago) link

New GIF just dropped....

I know who I trust to keep us secure!#Sunak #Starmer #Defence pic.twitter.com/JcBPIfsI0U

— Mike Tapp (@MikeTappTweets) May 14, 2024

glumdalclitch, Tuesday, 14 May 2024 14:00 (seven months ago) link

during WW1 they set up "Bantams" battalions for conscripts who were shorter than 5ft 3in. Both of these diminutive military cosplay clowns look fucking stupid!

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 14 May 2024 14:16 (seven months ago) link

A right pair of regimental mascots.

I've left the box of soup near your shoes (Tom D.), Tuesday, 14 May 2024 14:21 (seven months ago) link

Starmer: more deadly than a predator drone when pished up and behind the wheel of a military SUV

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 14 May 2024 14:38 (seven months ago) link

hello kieth this is your electoral advisor speaking. i am advising you today to keep absorbing the tories' biggest pieces of shit into your joke of a labour party

Just seen Mark Francois deep in conversation with Labour whips.

— Tom Peck (@tompeck) May 15, 2024

katy perry (prison service) (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 15 May 2024 10:58 (seven months ago) link

Surely he’s that bit too rapey?

steely flan (suzy), Wednesday, 15 May 2024 13:01 (seven months ago) link

look, acknowledging the rumoured sex crimes of the mps we propose to poach from the opposition is the old politics

katy perry (prison service) (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 15 May 2024 13:07 (seven months ago) link

he's making the broad tent in his trousers

This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 15 May 2024 13:10 (seven months ago) link

BREAKING: People have been told to boil their drinking water after 22 cases of a waterborne disease were confirmed in South West England.https://t.co/PAiZ4D1jU3

📺 Sky 501, Virgin 602, Freeview 233 and YouTube pic.twitter.com/6QN057HmFx

— Sky News (@SkyNews) May 15, 2024

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 15 May 2024 17:31 (seven months ago) link

jfc. even if there was a cholera epidemic there would still be most politicians calling for stricter regulation rather than the re-nationalisation of water

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 15 May 2024 17:41 (seven months ago) link

broke: renationalising water companies
woke: spending public money to scoop the shit out of the rivers
bespoke: hiking water bills so consumers can pay to scoop through shit out of the rivers and bosses can claim bumper bonuses

katy perry (prison service) (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 15 May 2024 17:45 (seven months ago) link

broke: the UK's first world country status
woke: boiling the piss of shareholders
bespoke: drinking piss

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 15 May 2024 17:53 (seven months ago) link

check out mr gold top hat over here, drinking a cool refreshing glass of pure piss while the rest of england has to choke down sludgy pints of undifferentiated human waste

katy perry (prison service) (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 15 May 2024 17:55 (seven months ago) link

Look at this fellas.

I will be applying for selection as Labour's candidate in Islington North. The scale of poverty in the borough, together with the acute crisis for private renters and the threats to local health services, mean Islington needs to be setting Labour's agenda in power.

I worked…

— Paul Mason (@paulmasonnews) May 15, 2024

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 15 May 2024 18:26 (seven months ago) link

Drinking shit while voting for Paul Mason MP

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 15 May 2024 18:26 (seven months ago) link

This must happen.

I've left the box of soup near your shoes (Tom D.), Wednesday, 15 May 2024 18:36 (seven months ago) link

@stoya come to islington north - the shit-drinking is happening

katy perry (prison service) (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 15 May 2024 18:45 (seven months ago) link

it would be a clear signal they have given up on the job. He's been rimming Starmer since 2019 and it seems crystal clear nobody takes him seriously nor likes him, especially after his (what i think it is) 4 failures to get into elected positions on the bounce for him so far.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 15 May 2024 18:56 (seven months ago) link

yeah i said on the other thread i don't see how he gets the nomination, even if the seat is unwinnable for Labour they'll want some low key shlub to lose it quietly, not this thermonuclear car crash

Bitchin Doutai (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 15 May 2024 19:34 (seven months ago) link

Sorry for the Sky link, but lol at these figures, particularly the graph showing "non-white voters nearly alright with Starmer until he shits the bed on Gaza"

https://news.sky.com/story/amp/sunak-and-starmer-facing-historic-unpopularity-with-ethnically-diverse-communities-polling-suggests-13136587

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 16 May 2024 13:23 (seven months ago) link

that sludgy pint of undifferentiated human waste cost you two grand btw

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GNplZgVXUAELTd7?format=jpg&name=medium

katy perry (prison service) (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 16 May 2024 13:23 (seven months ago) link

How the fuck do you manage to be less popular with ethnic minority voters than the guy who contributed to a million dead Iraqis?!

Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Thursday, 16 May 2024 13:51 (seven months ago) link

only starmer can deliver change on this historic scale

katy perry (prison service) (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 16 May 2024 14:03 (seven months ago) link

https://t.co/kfwAnzHkVU pic.twitter.com/0VnqPMCNDC

— 🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌🤌 (@immolations) May 16, 2024

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 16 May 2024 14:11 (seven months ago) link

Love the work of our Free Press

Bitchin Doutai (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 16 May 2024 14:18 (seven months ago) link

starmer’s key offer to the public: terminal cancer

katy perry (prison service) (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 16 May 2024 14:42 (seven months ago) link

the Boots CEO is coat-tailed cunt #6 in that 80's Bullingdon Club pic, very impressive.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 16 May 2024 14:42 (seven months ago) link

how is a counter terrorism securities officer in a public offering, i should learn about the law. i think usa has a no conflict of interest/no govt contracts provision but no grift is illegal these days anywhere

well below the otm mendoza line (Hunt3r), Thursday, 16 May 2024 14:51 (seven months ago) link

by which i mean it is illegal not to be grifting. abg always. be. grifting.

well below the otm mendoza line (Hunt3r), Thursday, 16 May 2024 14:52 (seven months ago) link

WOKE COURTS SLAM BRAVE SUELLA'S LOONY LEFT CLAMPDOWN

katy perry (prison service) (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 21 May 2024 14:49 (seven months ago) link

oh jesus, is he about to announce an election date?

Well I suppose we'd better get it over with

This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 22 May 2024 14:37 (six months ago) link

Thanks for ruining the summer, guys.

I've left the box of soup near your shoes (Tom D.), Wednesday, 22 May 2024 14:41 (six months ago) link

Pinning his hopes on England doing well at the Euros.

I've left the box of soup near your shoes (Tom D.), Wednesday, 22 May 2024 14:45 (six months ago) link

"We're seeing the behaviour you would expect on the day an election is called"

yes, all the most insufferable lobby journalist posting even more shite than usual

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 22 May 2024 14:48 (six months ago) link

I've left the box of soup near your shoes (Tom D.) at 3:45 22 May 24

Pinning his hopes on England doing well at the Euros.
I remember that extensive alternative history fiction where Gordon Banks plays in the 1970 world cup semi final, then England win, the tories get in again, and think it all winds up with WWIII or sth? iirc it has disappeared from the web and the author is now a tory spad or sth.

This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 22 May 2024 14:54 (six months ago) link

A Tory rebel source tells me: Letters are going in calling for a no confidence vote in Rishi Sunak after reports of an imminent general election announcement

— Nicholas Watt (@nicholaswatt) May 22, 2024

Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Wednesday, 22 May 2024 14:55 (six months ago) link

GE with the Tories refusing to put up a candidate

h.p. lovecraft's backing singers (Matt #2), Wednesday, 22 May 2024 14:57 (six months ago) link

Uncharitable thought of the day: that Tory MP from Thanet who lost his limbs to sepsis probably deserved it

Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Wednesday, 22 May 2024 14:58 (six months ago) link

Is that Boris Johnson's music?

glumdalclitch, Wednesday, 22 May 2024 14:59 (six months ago) link

xp soon he might be unemployed on PIP, every cloud etc.

This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 22 May 2024 15:01 (six months ago) link

Uncharitable thought of the day: that Tory MP from Thanet who lost his limbs to sepsis probably deserved it

― Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Wednesday, 22 May 2024 15:58 (two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

honestly think the parties best chance at this point would be to get rid of Sunak and get this guy to lead them into the election, attempt to switch the focus from politics to inspiring tale of triumph over adversity, I came back from having both hands and feet amputated and the tory party can come back from being 20 points behind in the polls etc

Platinum Penguin Pavilion (soref), Wednesday, 22 May 2024 15:03 (six months ago) link

They've laid on all of this for David Cameron in Tirana, and he's flying straight back. Poor form. pic.twitter.com/6VHFYd7Dne

— Damian McBride (@DPMcBride) May 22, 2024

nashwan, Wednesday, 22 May 2024 15:03 (six months ago) link

Norman Wisdom would never have treated Albania so disrespectfully.

I've left the box of soup near your shoes (Tom D.), Wednesday, 22 May 2024 15:21 (six months ago) link

July election apparently?

h.p. lovecraft's backing singers (Matt #2), Wednesday, 22 May 2024 15:26 (six months ago) link

hey I'm starting to warm to this rishi guy

Also, on the "but we've booked our holidays" point, this isn't as trivial as it sounds.

It's not just journos but MPs, spads, MINISTERS who got the green light from No10 that the summer was safe.

That's a lot of ill will to kick of a campaign with. From those on your own side

— Rachel Cunliffe (@RMCunliffe) May 22, 2024

This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 22 May 2024 15:49 (six months ago) link

i assume they're shooting for the lowest possible turnout

Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 22 May 2024 16:05 (six months ago) link

4th july; a disgraceful snub to our american friends

glumdalclitch, Wednesday, 22 May 2024 16:08 (six months ago) link

We have a blank lectern out front of No 10…

steely flan (suzy), Wednesday, 22 May 2024 16:12 (six months ago) link

lol some idiot playing "Things Can Only Get Better" at enormous volume while Rishi flails about at the lectern

Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Wednesday, 22 May 2024 16:19 (six months ago) link

lol @ the protestors playing 'Things Can Only Get Better' over the top of this speech.

xpost!

emil.y, Wednesday, 22 May 2024 16:19 (six months ago) link

So many better tunes they could have used to undermine him

Maresn3st, Wednesday, 22 May 2024 16:20 (six months ago) link

can they still oust him as pm now that he's called the election, how does that work

ufo, Wednesday, 22 May 2024 16:20 (six months ago) link

strange to think we’re living in the last days before ed davey is swept to great and terrible power by the people of these united kingdoms

katy perry (prison service) (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 22 May 2024 16:27 (six months ago) link

Sunak says voters don't know what they're getting with Starmer because he doesn't keep promises
Sunak says he is guided by what is right, not by what is easy.

He goes on:

I can’t say the same thing for the Labour party because I don’t know what they offer.
And in truth I don’t think you know either.

And that’s because they have no plan. There is no bold action. And as a result the future can only be uncertain with them.

On the 5th of July, either Keir Starmer or I will be prime minister. He has shown time and time again that he will take the easy way out and do anything to get power.

If he was happy to abandon all the promises he made to become leader leader once he got the job, how can you know that he won’t do exactly the same thing if he were to become prime minister?


https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/03/Josep_Maria_García.jpg

katy perry (prison service) (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 22 May 2024 16:33 (six months ago) link

https://i.ibb.co/CWRVpyH/Screenshot-20240522-173755.png

glumdalclitch, Wednesday, 22 May 2024 16:41 (six months ago) link

just got home and popped the radio on, i'm done with the asinine level of political commentary in the UK now

Bitchin Doutai (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 22 May 2024 16:44 (six months ago) link

lol some idiot playing "Things Can Only Get Better" at enormous volume while Rishi flails about at the lectern

― Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Wednesday, 22 May 2024 bookmarkflaglink

Everything is going to get unimaginably stupider from now. No escape.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 22 May 2024 16:46 (six months ago) link

Rishi: ok many of you may have said that I’m a prick but
Rishi: have you considered that Keir Starmer is an insincere prick

Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Wednesday, 22 May 2024 16:48 (six months ago) link

xp
is that Sunak's or Starmer's election slogan?

rob, Wednesday, 22 May 2024 16:49 (six months ago) link

Starmer is gonna choke like fuck as soon as he gets any pushback

Bitchin Doutai (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 22 May 2024 16:49 (six months ago) link

Lol these ppl

I'm not cancelling that June holiday. I'm not fucking doing it.

— Ian Dunt (@IanDunt) May 22, 2024

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 22 May 2024 16:51 (six months ago) link

can they still oust him as pm now that he's called the election, how does that work


No point, they’ve already agreed to dissolve Parliament.

Requesting permission to dissolve parliament

The prime minister has already requested permission from the King to hold a general election, as the power to dissolve parliament - end the session - legally lies with him.

Parliament must be "dissolved" for an election to officially take place. Polling day then takes place 25 working days after that date.

Mr Sunak said in a speech outside Downing Street on Wednesday that the King had granted his request to dissolve parliament.

As a result, parliament will be prorogued on Friday, 24 May, while dissolution will take place on Thursday, 30 May.

Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Wednesday, 22 May 2024 16:51 (six months ago) link

xp
is that Sunak's or Starmer's election slogan?

― rob, Wednesday, 22 May 2024 bookmarkflaglink

Do you know about this terrible song?

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 22 May 2024 16:52 (six months ago) link

lol like anybody will notice if Dunty takes a year off

Bitchin Doutai (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 22 May 2024 16:53 (six months ago) link

Very much not stoked for the madness.

I've left the box of soup near your shoes (Tom D.), Wednesday, 22 May 2024 16:58 (six months ago) link

thanks a lot Kieth. I dreamt about a Tory wipeout for the best part of a decade and now that it's probably imminent I don't even fucking care anymore.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 22 May 2024 16:58 (six months ago) link

is that Sunak's or Starmer's election slogan?

― rob, Wednesday, 22 May 2024 bookmarkflaglink

Do you know about this terrible song?

― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, May 22, 2024 12:52 PM (four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

I do not know that song, but fwiw I was joking that your post "Everything is going to get unimaginably stupider from now. No escape." was the slogan

rob, Wednesday, 22 May 2024 16:59 (six months ago) link

No Ian, don’t go on holidays, what will we do without your milquetoast takes dipped in smugness?!

Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Wednesday, 22 May 2024 17:00 (six months ago) link

Ah ok lol xp

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 22 May 2024 17:00 (six months ago) link

Anyway this is what we have to look forward to.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/article/2024/may/22/labour-mp-rightwing-figurehead-enabled-anti-protest-clampdown

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 22 May 2024 17:01 (six months ago) link

LOL @ Sunak's speech. What a shambles.

I've left the box of soup near your shoes (Tom D.), Wednesday, 22 May 2024 17:03 (six months ago) link

classic Graun still implying that Woodcock was at some point "centre Left"

Bitchin Doutai (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 22 May 2024 17:03 (six months ago) link

He went to a March as a kid

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 22 May 2024 17:06 (six months ago) link

i don't know whether we should pitch for new thread titles or whether apathetically letting this one drag on would be more apposite

Bitchin Doutai (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 22 May 2024 17:08 (six months ago) link

New thread imo for election madness & then new one for whatever government forms after that

Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Wednesday, 22 May 2024 17:09 (six months ago) link

Election called for the day before the Euros quarters, what a lift for Our Boys if Ed Davey ascends his rightful throne as is just and true

h.p. lovecraft's backing singers (Matt #2), Wednesday, 22 May 2024 17:10 (six months ago) link

Our long national nightmare is finally over. Our next long national nightmare is about to start.

— Gavin Jackson (@GavinHJackson) May 22, 2024

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 22 May 2024 17:12 (six months ago) link

propose election thread title: "Everything changes but UK"

Bitchin Doutai (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 22 May 2024 17:16 (six months ago) link

mind you i've just seen Kieth say "Stability is Change" which will take some beating

Bitchin Doutai (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 22 May 2024 17:18 (six months ago) link

by the way

https://x.com/FromSteveHowell/status/1793327619716350248

Bitchin Doutai (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 22 May 2024 17:20 (six months ago) link

I seem to remember another party leader who went into an election boring everybody to tears by droning on about stability.

I've left the box of soup near your shoes (Tom D.), Wednesday, 22 May 2024 17:21 (six months ago) link

hung parliament because labour didn’t field enough dead-eyed childkiller cunts as candidates let’s fucking goooooo xp

katy perry (prison service) (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 22 May 2024 17:22 (six months ago) link

NV suggestion the best so far

Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Wednesday, 22 May 2024 17:22 (six months ago) link

Forced to work in the rain unnecessarily?

Join a union. pic.twitter.com/yiq1jamHIT

— Trades Union Congress (@The_TUC) May 22, 2024

katy perry (prison service) (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 22 May 2024 17:29 (six months ago) link

Absolutely baffled he did it in that rain.

Checking the new boundaries again and I guess it's been made even easier for me to not vote Labour now I see we're apparently losing Bell Riberio-Addy and getting Steve effing Reed.

nashwan, Wednesday, 22 May 2024 17:33 (six months ago) link

(Ribeiro-Addy)

nashwan, Wednesday, 22 May 2024 17:33 (six months ago) link

Tory ministers genuinely struggling to explain why an election has been called for July.

I've left the box of soup near your shoes (Tom D.), Wednesday, 22 May 2024 17:35 (six months ago) link

as ever it will be a pleasure not to vote for Diana Johnson

Bitchin Doutai (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 22 May 2024 17:35 (six months ago) link

(xp) This guy actually using the example of Corbyn performing better than expected in 2017!

I've left the box of soup near your shoes (Tom D.), Wednesday, 22 May 2024 17:37 (six months ago) link

"Things can only get wetter", but obv NV's suggestion is a thing which is better.

glumdalclitch, Wednesday, 22 May 2024 17:38 (six months ago) link

Starmer is gonna choke like fuck as soon as he gets any pushback

this is absolutely locked in. it will be epic.

Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 22 May 2024 17:48 (six months ago) link

wonder how long it’ll be before we find out what really happened with the deliveroo driver

katy perry (prison service) (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 22 May 2024 17:49 (six months ago) link

i’m sure cctv footage of starmer enjoying a delicious beverage in the pub beforehand will mysteriously surface eventually

katy perry (prison service) (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 22 May 2024 17:50 (six months ago) link

"..we've returned Labour to the party in service of working people..."

thanks for saving us from the anti-union, pro-zero hours poverty policies of the evil jam man.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 22 May 2024 18:16 (six months ago) link

Asking the question.

Its 4th July, you live in rainy fash island..

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 22 May 2024 18:38 (six months ago) link

Just amazed that no umbrella was to be found when Sunak announced it...

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 22 May 2024 19:57 (six months ago) link

Not a serious country

👀
Wow! Extraordinary but true - some furious Conservative MPs are tonight working on a plot to CALL OFF the general election by replacing Rishi Sunak as leader before Parliament is dissolved next Thursday.
One rebel Tory MP tells me he believes “several” more letters of no…

— Christopher Hope📝 (@christopherhope) May 22, 2024

This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 22 May 2024 21:39 (six months ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/aOWD1Xi.png

Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 22 May 2024 22:29 (six months ago) link

Ok ....

Mark G, Wednesday, 22 May 2024 22:41 (six months ago) link

i hope they are able to remove sunak as pm asap because that seems like it gets really funny and stupid and is probably the best hope for the election not producing a one party state

ufo, Wednesday, 22 May 2024 23:05 (six months ago) link

new thread is this way -->

Stability is change: crossing the floor from potato to potahto in uk 2024

Bernard Quidbins (NickB), Wednesday, 22 May 2024 23:17 (six months ago) link

yeah but does the new thread have discount trainers?

This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 22 May 2024 23:19 (six months ago) link

that price is going to shoot right back up on july 5

Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 22 May 2024 23:20 (six months ago) link


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