Let's bitch about our stupid, annoying co-workers

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Girl I work with is chatting to a male customer in friendly fashion as she serves him. He leaves, then me and her have this conversation.

Annoying Girl: "I hope people don't get the wrong idea!"
Me: "Eh?"
AG: "About me and the guy. I hope people don't start thinking we're going out, just because I'm friendly to him when he comes in."
Me: "Eh, I don't think people will assume that."
AG: "You don't think the bosses would fire me for it? You know, for being too friendly with the customers?"
Me: "Eh, no." (Thinking: Christ Almighty!)
AG: "I'm really worried now. They wouldn't fire me for it, would they?"
Me: "I doubt it."

A few minutes pass...

AG: "I'm still really worried. They wouldn't fire me, would they?"
Me: "NO!" (Thinking: leave me alone, you neurotic freak!)

Then this crazy elderly man, a regular customer, comes in. He was in a car accident which left him, (how shall I put this?), barking mad. He thinks he's a real estate owner, and I'm one of his tenants, despite the fact that he asks me for money for tobacco every time he comes in. He proceeds to tell the annoying girl about all the houses he owns, and how I am one of his tenants etc, etc, while drooling and smelling terrible! He leaves.

AG: (genuinely) "Was that true, what he was saying?"
Me: "Oh my, no."
AG: "It could have been..."
Me: "I'm pretty sure it wasn't" (Thinking: Christ! I think I'd know if I was one of his tenants!)
AG: "Appearances can be deceptive..."
Me: "No, I'm pretty sure he's barking mad."
AG: "But-"
Me: "NO!"

It was a long day at work. I feel better now I've got it off my chest! Now it's your turn to bitch.

What makes it even more irritating is that she's a very NICE person. No harm in her at all, just really annoying and stupid. So I feel bad for bitching about her, yet I am compelled to do so!

weasel diesel (K1l14n), Thursday, 28 November 2002 22:19 (twenty-one years ago) link

One of the managers at the petrol station once called me outside for a smoke and to talk to me, it was a bit like the Warden Norton/Tommy scene in Shawshank Redemption.

Boss:"Ronan could you comb your hair next time you come to work"


Me:"eh in fairness the contract doesn't say anything about me having to comb my hair"

Boss:"yeah but I mean you're a student now yeah? this job isn't so bad. they look after you well, it's a good wage, I'm happy with my lot"

Me:"I don't think there's any chance of me ever working here for a living, long term"

Boss:"Yeah and they pay your health insurance, it's not too difficult a job either"

Me:"Yeah no I'm never going to want to work here, to be honest I was planning on quitting as soon as I start college, or maybe even sooner, you needn't tell the main boss that"

Boss:"Oh don't worry, whatever is discussed here stays here. *long David Brent style lecture* I know what it's like to work WITH people and AROUND people, and I know that this station is not being run as effectively as possible, it's a clique, and I'm sure you can see that too Ronan. But quitting isn't going to change that. You quitting will not make this a smoother operation.

Me:"Eh I don't care about this job, I'm not sure what your point is"

Boss:"All I'm saying is, think about what I've said to you yeah? Just think about it"

Me:"............ok"

Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 28 November 2002 22:45 (twenty-one years ago) link

Is it only DCU students who work with stupid, annoying people?

DV (dirtyvicar), Thursday, 28 November 2002 23:50 (twenty-one years ago) link

no, its anyone who has ever worked in bars with no-neck, arrogant-for-no-reason wankers, with no brain function other than the tiny amount required to raise a beer to their filthy mouths after a shift.

donna (donna), Friday, 29 November 2002 04:26 (twenty-one years ago) link

Hurrah for it is the last day of the CompulsiveEatingBurpingCulotteWearingTactlessJollyCoWorker today!!! What will hopefully be my last annoying conversation with her happened first thing on Wednesday morning:

CEBCWTJCW: Morning Rachel!!! Oooh! What have you done to your NOSE??

Me: What? Oh yeah, it's a spot.

CEBCWTJCW: No! You've cut yourself or something! It's really RED.

Me: No, really, it's just a big, shiny, noticeable spot.

CEBCWTJCW: It looks really BAD!

At this point I gave up all hope of having a good day.

Archel (Archel), Friday, 29 November 2002 09:17 (twenty-one years ago) link

Day one at my new job.

Woman At Next Desk: Oh, you used to live in London? So did I. I moved back after my daughter started school and, to be honest, I'm really glad I did. The education you get in London is terrible.

Madchen: I've heard inner city schools are, er, challenging.

WAND: Oh yes. I mean, she was one of only three white faces in the class.

Madchen: Oh. (Mutters something under her breath about 1 in 4 Scots).

Madchen (Madchen), Friday, 29 November 2002 09:26 (twenty-one years ago) link

My co-worker Oh, I'm not being funny.... but could you only buy your lunch from the shop across the road from now on? When you go anywhere else it takes too long. Maybe you should bring a pack up from home.

Me (in my head): No, fuck off you food fascist. You're the one who is consistantly 15 minutes late back from lunch every day, and I know I'll spend the last hour of the day sitting around doing nothing listening to you go on and on and on so it's not like we're really busy. And God, just never speak to me again!

Me (in reality): Yeah, no problem.

Madeleine (Madeleine), Friday, 29 November 2002 10:29 (twenty-one years ago) link

Maddie, immediately invent an obscure food allergy that REQUIRES you to go to a different shop! Oh , and then KILL HER.

Archel (Archel), Friday, 29 November 2002 10:50 (twenty-one years ago) link

haha, madchen, fuck you! ;)

dwh (dwh), Friday, 29 November 2002 10:52 (twenty-one years ago) link

What the hell? Why, precisely, was that necessary, dwh? Christ on a bike.

Liz :x (Liz :x), Friday, 29 November 2002 10:57 (twenty-one years ago) link

Maddie, your co-worker is EVIL. There's only one place you should go for an off-site lunch and that's THE PUB!

robster (robster), Friday, 29 November 2002 10:58 (twenty-one years ago) link

Rule 2858 in a series of obscure rules:

Office twats who preface statements with 'I'm not being funny' should recognise that everything following the phrase comes with its own virtual kill file.

My other suggestion would be to canvass other coworkers for a pizza delivery one Friday and exclude her blatantly.

suzy (suzy), Friday, 29 November 2002 11:10 (twenty-one years ago) link

I want to invent a food allergy but then I'd be like her! She's allergic to garlic, alcohol, traffic fumes, manmade fibres, "still air" (this means we have the fan on in the winter so the air circulates and her eyes don't "gum up"), some other stuff that I forgot and, of course, EVER DOING ANY WORK. She is allergic to getting off her arse, I fear.

And the "I'm not being funny/I'm not having a go/I don't want you to take this the wrong way...." rule. I reckon if you have to start a sentence with any of these statements, you shouldn't be saying the sentence at all!

Madeleine (Madeleine), Friday, 29 November 2002 11:30 (twenty-one years ago) link

Oh, and I can't canvass others to share food. There's only me and her in the whole shop. And when it's quiet she talks to me like we're friends but we're not. It's all very unfortunate.

Madeleine (Madeleine), Friday, 29 November 2002 11:32 (twenty-one years ago) link

Haha 'still air'????

Archel (Archel), Friday, 29 November 2002 11:37 (twenty-one years ago) link

This stupid stupid woman sent every single person here an email saying that she left 60 centimes in the coffee machine and asking for whoever finds it to bring it to her office. What a scrooge!

Miss Laura, Friday, 29 November 2002 11:58 (twenty-one years ago) link

it wasn't sincere, liz, it was just a grumble about the allegation that 1/4 of scots are racist, y'know. the 'haha' was meant to temper it, sorry.

dwh (dwh), Friday, 29 November 2002 12:39 (twenty-one years ago) link

Allegation? My personal experience is this:

I work in a room with two people. Person 1 said to me all the stuff I wrote above. She thought nothing of saying it to a stranger (the assumption, I guess, being that I would think the same). Person 2 laughed along merrily. Also, I have come across numerous people in Glasgow who tell me they get scared in London because there are so many black people around. Again, the way they express themselves implies they feel no sense of shame whatsoever - they just don't see there's anything wrong in expressing obviously prejudiced opinions.

I'm not denying for a second that racism doesn't exist elsewhere (and I'm not forgetting that the survey found 3 in 4 Scots aren't racist) but this is the only place I've encountered bigots who have the expectation that my opinion must be the same as theirs.

Madchen (Madchen), Friday, 29 November 2002 13:17 (twenty-one years ago) link

Try the deli counter at S**n**ury's. I get so many customers who expect me to agree with their racist opinions simply because I am white. Twats.

alix (alix), Friday, 29 November 2002 17:42 (twenty-one years ago) link

e-mail from my boss: "when I came in on Monday, the Threepenny Opera files were not online. I expect that when I assign a task that it will be completed. Don't let this happen in the future."

reply from me: "actually, on Friday we both determined that we had the wrong CD and would have to special order a new copy. On Monday."

reply from my boss: "There must have been some miscommunication here."

yeah, between your ears and your brain. moron!

Dave M. (rotten03), Friday, 29 November 2002 17:56 (twenty-one years ago) link

Suzy, you aren't generalising wildly enough: yes, anyone who says "I'm not being funny, but" is best punched, hard and often, but this applies to most other sentences on the "I'm not being [X], but" model. X=racist obviously means "I am a loathsome racist", most obviously and clearly. Try 'sexist' or 'nasty' too.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Friday, 29 November 2002 19:18 (twenty-one years ago) link

Happily I've been blessed with a slew of great co-workers. I will say that some years back the news that someone was departing from our neck of the woods to go elsewhere was greeted with quiet relief, though.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 29 November 2002 19:30 (twenty-one years ago) link

Maddy, if she's your boss and only other co-worker then it sounds like she needs you more than you need her. POINTEDLY go to other shops to get your lunch. I say ignore the instruction.

suzy (suzy), Friday, 29 November 2002 22:55 (twenty-one years ago) link

Annoying Coworker: Yes, well, that account would be able to fund your entity if you hadn't taken money from it without telling me.
Me: What?
Annoying Coworker: (holds up wire) See? $147,000 from my account.
Me: No, we gave you money.
Annoying Coworker WHO GETS PAID LOTS MORE THAN ME: NO YOU DID NOT. I'd appreciate it if you wouldn't write wires without telling me in the future.
Me: Did you look at this? You account is on the credit side. Management (nb: my account) is on the debit side!
Annoying Coworker: Whatever, just don't do it again.

What the fuck?

Ally (mlescaut), Saturday, 30 November 2002 06:50 (twenty-one years ago) link

one month passes...
We've got two new people here this year - one of whom is very cool and I hardly see, so we get along really well. The other one, though - a nightmare. She's the epitome of simpering little girl-ness, speaks to me (and most everyone else) as though I'm a retarded child when in fact I've been doing the job that she's just begun (and is completely incompetent at, I might add) for 12 years. She's one of those people who has never met anyone as fascinating as herself in all of her born days and if she doesn't calm down, stop being a stupid bitch and stop second guessing every word I say to her, I will hit her in the head with a brick.

luna (luna.c), Tuesday, 14 January 2003 19:26 (twenty-one years ago) link

The receptionist keeps telling everyone she's going through post partum depression.

Despite the fact that she's obviously still pregnant.

Ally (mlescaut), Wednesday, 15 January 2003 02:47 (twenty-one years ago) link

My head hurts.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 15 January 2003 02:49 (twenty-one years ago) link

How about the dumbass cockfarmer that came into the library coughing and sneezing in such an ostentatious way it's like he intentionally planned a big Outbreak scenario? Now I'm at home running a fever and I think I might have bronchitis again.

Nicole (Nicole), Wednesday, 15 January 2003 02:49 (twenty-one years ago) link

Hm. Find him and kill him.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 15 January 2003 02:51 (twenty-one years ago) link

I was depressed about being unemployed until I saw this thread. Thank you everyone. :)

fractal (fractal), Wednesday, 15 January 2003 03:06 (twenty-one years ago) link

I was also informed that I wasn't authorized to approve payment on technological items.

However, I AM authorized to purchase them, however I want, whenever I want.

What does that even mean?

Ally (mlescaut), Wednesday, 15 January 2003 03:13 (twenty-one years ago) link

It means you got the kingdom, you got the key. Order yourself everything you ever wanted and don't share.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 15 January 2003 03:16 (twenty-one years ago) link

people should post more on this thread. i like it.

Maria (Maria), Wednesday, 15 January 2003 04:23 (twenty-one years ago) link

What follows is an email that was sent to some friends last spring, after a particularly bad morning with co-workers.

SUBJECT LINE: I gotta get outta this place
...if it's the last thing I ever do (feel free to hum along.)

After a delightful morning spent discussing why someone:
1. Shouldn't open a printer paperfeed drawer, while the printer is printing;
2. Shouldn't send emails to everyone on their mailing lists about Church-related emails;
3. Should let others know when they need the printer instead of deleting documents in the queue;
4. Shouldn't tell someone "this is urgent" so they work really late to get it finished, when really, it isn't urgent at all and in fact, doesn't need to be done at all; and
5. Shouldn't take someone else's lunch from the refrigerator and leave it on the counter to make room for "extra drinks in case we have visitors,"
I have now experienced the conversation to top them all (and really, you have to laugh at this one. I did. Once I calmed down, imbibed chocolate and nicotine, and thought "well, at least it's not quantum physics?). So....here it is:

A Dialogue between "M" (yours truly) and "S" (Otherwise known as Scarett/Princess/Arch Nemesis/The Scarf Lady/etc.)
S: Hey "M"!
M: Yes?
S: You know how to work that digital camera yet?
M: Yeah, figured it out last week.
S: How long does it take to get those photos developed?
M: What?
S: I need some photos really fast, so I can photocopy them and make notes on the back. And get duplicates too, in case they get messed-up.
M: What? What pictures do you need taken?
S: I need to you take pictures of my computer.
M: Why?
S: I need to know what's on my computer.
M: (sigh) You are looking for a file?
S: No, I need to know what is on my screen thing.
M: (dawning awareness) You need screen captures?
S: No, I need pictures of my computer.
M: For....?
S: I need to know what's on my screen, 'cause these instructions don't make sense and I want to make notes.
M: Okay, then you need a picture of the information on your screen, that you can print and add notes to?
S: Yes.
M: Okay, we don't need the camera for that. We can just do screen captures. It's easy.
(M walks over to other office, taking deep and soothing breathes all the while, and explains how to "CTRL+ALT+PrtScn" - runs into trouble with explanation of holding down all keys at the same time. Eventually resolved and screen is captured.)
M: Now open Word and set the page to ?Landscape.?
S: My computer won't do that.
M: What? Yes it will.
(M goes through brief discussion of "portrait" vs "landscape" and how to perform operation in Word. Discovers part of problem is that S doesn?t know how to open Word because the icon isn?t on her desktop.)
M: Now just hit "Shift+Insert" and your screen shot will be inserted.
M: No, you need to hold down both keys at the same time.
M: I don't know, that's just the way the program is designed.
M: Yeah, it is find of frustrating.
M: Okay, now you have it. Just insert a new page for each of the next screen captures and then print the file.
(M returns to own desk and gets back into rhythm of formatting proposal.)
S: M! It isn't working. I want you to take the pictures for me.
M: I don't have time to take the pictures right now, I have to get this back to _____.
S: Well, I don't have the time to use the camera, so I guess this won't get done and _____ will be mad.
M: Yeah, I guess ___ will be mad, but I'll explain the problem to him.
S: Can't you do these thingys for me?
M: No, not right now. I have to get this done.
S: You know, it's your job to do this.
M: No, actually it isn't. I am sorry, but I really can't do it right now. If I have time later I'll come over and see what we can do. In the meantime, why don't you look under the "Help" menu to see if those instructions are better.
S: Oh, my computer doesn't have any "Help" on it. I keep telling ____ he needs to fix it, but he won't.

(M decides, for sake of sanity, to not try and figure out what that last comment means and returns to her editing, swearing all the while.)
End of original email.

And here are additional interesting tidbits about ?S?:
She claimed on her resume to be ?Microsoft Certified,? but was unable to explain what that meant;
She wrote all of her correspondence in Excel, because she didn?t know how to open Word (the icon wasn?t on her desktop);
When she came into work each morning, she made herself a pot of tea and sat in her cubicle reading household decorating magazines and drinking tea for the first two hours: and, best of all
She was once asked to provide a file that she had finished working on to another co-worker. The file was not on her hard drive for, as she explained, she ?didn?t want to fill it up with things? (and it was a 20 G HD!) File was eventually determined, by her, to be on a floppy. But floppy was blank when co-worker opened it. Eventually ?S? showed supervisor where she stored all of her floppys containing important info. She was attaching them to the metal parts of her cubicle with large magnets, so she ?could always find them.?

~ Laura (who is thankful that she can claim to be a happy rat, that abandoned the sinking ship in time to move to a much cushier and affluent ship, and is now ridiculously happy with things)

LCD (Ms Laura), Wednesday, 15 January 2003 05:13 (twenty-one years ago) link

She was once asked to provide a file that she had finished working on to another co-worker. The file was not on her hard drive for, as she explained, she "didn't want to fill it up with things" (and it was a 20 G HD!)

I've met a few people who have done basic "computer literacy" courses at colleges and Adult Ed. places who do this. What seems to happen is: the college says "don't store your files on the hard drive [of our lab computers], use a floppy" and the person absorbs this without understanding *why* they're being told it.

These sort of courses always seem to produce people who can't do anything except exactly what was on the course, and then only if their computer is set up exactly like the college ones were. Hence, not being able to start Word if it doesn't have a desktop icon.

(of course, the other stuff shows that this person seems to be a fuckwit regardless of that)

caitlin (caitlin), Wednesday, 15 January 2003 10:49 (twenty-one years ago) link

Laura, that's fantastic.

The ex-receptionist at my office once printed out an email so she could type it up in Word.

Alfie (Alfie), Wednesday, 15 January 2003 11:02 (twenty-one years ago) link

is that why she's an ex-receptionist?

MarkH (MarkH), Wednesday, 15 January 2003 11:30 (twenty-one years ago) link

awwwwww, usually this stuff would make me mad, but today i want to find them all and help them and give them tea.

it's a sappy day.

g-kit (g-kit), Wednesday, 15 January 2003 11:42 (twenty-one years ago) link

Heh, you'd think so wouldn't you. In actual fact, it wasn't until she went on holiday for 6 weeks and nobody noticed her absence that it became the MD realised that we could do without her.

Alfie (Alfie), Wednesday, 15 January 2003 11:48 (twenty-one years ago) link

sounds familiar - we had a Communications Executive who never did any communicating.

MarkH (MarkH), Wednesday, 15 January 2003 11:54 (twenty-one years ago) link

We also had an account executive who used to wander around the office to kill time. He had this time-consuming trick of getting up from his desk and finding a bin in another part of the building to throw his litter into (rather than the bin under his desk). Another trick was to go down to the fax machine to send a fax, return to his desk, wait a couple of minutes and then return to the fax machine to collect the piece of paper.

Alfie (Alfie), Wednesday, 15 January 2003 12:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

One of my new colleagues is, to all intents and purposes, Jade. I quote:

1. "What does agriculture mean?"

2. "I was so annoyed. Someone threw themselves under my tube yesterday. People that do that must be mad."

3. Me: "Just tell them to put the web address in and it will take them straight into the site."

Her: "What address? Their address?"

Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 15 January 2003 12:06 (twenty-one years ago) link

I can't decide whether to post this to the annoying colleague or the B.O. thread, so I'm going to post it to both! Anyhow, in one office where I worked we had a guy with a B.O. problem and the managers had to have words with him in private on a couple of occasions. And yes, on those rare occasions when my sinuses were clear (one day in seventeen approx) it was quite annoying and offensive to me. However, it was NOT NEARLY AS ANNOYING AND OFFENSIVE as the colleague who used to go on and on about it all the bloody time whenever the guy with the problem walked out of the room! Not only that, but as soon as he left she used to reach for the can of air freshener which she kept on her desk *specially* and spray about a litre of it about the place! So instead of an office smelling of sweat we had an office reeking of air freshener!

MarkH (MarkH), Wednesday, 15 January 2003 13:58 (twenty-one years ago) link

Mailroom guy who looks like a troglodyte - "I wanted 'digical'[pronounced thus] TV cuz I don't have enough channels! They were supposed to install it on Friday but they didn't - the whole weekend I had nuthin' to do! I was really looking forward to it too!"

dave q, Wednesday, 15 January 2003 14:21 (twenty-one years ago) link

i don't want to help any of those people, though. far too annoying. the previous lot were quite sweet.

g-kit (g-kit), Wednesday, 15 January 2003 14:45 (twenty-one years ago) link

I pretty much get along with my immediate co-workers, and none of them are so annoying that I can't tune them out. However, I once shared an office with a foot fetishist. No kidding; he was friggin' profiled in the Village Voice about it, and was completely calm and collected when I mentioned "so I saw the Voice today..."! I guess we all have our private interests, but we don't all alert the press about it!

Other things he did: worked at his cube standing up (making everyone around him very tense), unbuttoned his shirts halfway down his chest, commented on every phone conversation I had (work related or not), talked to himself, and played horrible CD-Rs of cabaret tunes he wrote and produced. I think the whole experience inoculated me against ever being annoyed by co-workers again.

mike a (mike a), Wednesday, 15 January 2003 16:14 (twenty-one years ago) link

Okay, here's another example from today. We had a sales rep come in to demo a software package/online service that provides journal content. Anyhoo, I did a sample search, and one of the citations that got brought up was from an Ethiopian journal. She said (in all seriousness): "Wow! I didn't think that Ethiopians even had any paper, let alone journals!"

Unfortunately something this stupid is uttered in my office at least once a day...

Nicole (Nicole), Thursday, 16 January 2003 03:26 (twenty-one years ago) link

The amount of coworkers you've killed in your head must make quite the body count.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 16 January 2003 03:54 (twenty-one years ago) link

You have no idea. Entire populations have been erased.

Nicole (Nicole), Thursday, 16 January 2003 03:56 (twenty-one years ago) link

"As the final screams echoed away into caverns of oblivion, Nicole turned off her death rays and rubbed her chin thoughtfully. 'Should I have used so much napalm?'"

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 16 January 2003 03:57 (twenty-one years ago) link

my annoying co-worker went to the beach to 'monitor' coastal vegetation. One small patch of dunes one sunny afternoon. She's supposed to be training me in plant id, but didn't let me know. Which is fine, I have other things to do. But later a guy who did go with her mentioned it, saying he was surprised to hear I'd not been interested, since he knew I liked dune vegetation. She said she'd asked me to come and I didn't want to. Why is she inventing whole conversations?

isadora (isadora), Thursday, 16 January 2003 04:15 (twenty-one years ago) link

One of our temps is completely nutso. She's nice but she's the definition of flighty. The best is how she asks like every day which person is Phil (she's been here like two weeks, mind). I'm like, "HE'S THE BIG TALL MAN WITH BRIGHT RED HAIR WHAT LOOKS LIKE OPIE". It's not as if he's an immemorable person!!

Ally (mlescaut), Thursday, 16 January 2003 04:54 (twenty-one years ago) link

I made this post to the "call somebody a cockfarmer" thread, but its sentiments belong here as well.

j.lu (j.lu), Thursday, 16 January 2003 23:19 (twenty-one years ago) link

two months pass...
An attorney I work with to candidate for legal position, whose name is Sean: "Hi, Sean... Is that pronounced "Shawn" or "Seen"?

luna (luna.c), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 16:09 (twenty-one years ago) link

The old lady who just takes my newspaper off my desk and walks away with it all the while talking to me even though I can't hear her because I have headphones on.

Chris V. (Chris V), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 16:16 (twenty-one years ago) link

I'm a receptionist.

An old japanese woman wearing a baby dress and pigtails jumping and down in front of me at the desk. I just came in. Please, let me wake up a bit first. Or am I still dreaming?

Erik, Wednesday, 2 April 2003 16:30 (twenty-one years ago) link

NOT ENOUGH HOURS IN THE DAY.

Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 16:37 (twenty-one years ago) link

We have a new girl at work. She's the assistant for the guy in the office right next to mine. Everyone is chatting her up like mad and I'm totally jealous. I think they think I'm much older than I am or something else depressing...

Sarah McLUsky (coco), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 18:16 (twenty-one years ago) link

Not that I like making small-talk...

Sarah MCLUsky (coco), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 18:16 (twenty-one years ago) link

i dont have any coworkers

i feel like i'm missing out

jess (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 18:21 (twenty-one years ago) link

you're not.

There's nothing like a five minute meeting with your boss in which he tells you that you've basically got like two months to turn things around with a mouth full of Mike n' Ikes.

hstencil, Wednesday, 2 April 2003 18:23 (twenty-one years ago) link

Or how 'bouts getting taken TOTALLY advantage of because you're a volunteer...my boss seems to think that I came 2000 miles just to do all her work so she can edit mine and point out problems that I would have had ABSOLUTELY NO WAY of knowing about beforehand. Oh, and if I make a comment like "It would be really nice if I had Outlook on my computer like you do" I get a speech about how "this is the developing world" and I need to "get used to it." Fuck. It aint like I'm complaining about water outages and the goats running free everywhere...I want a bloody stupid crappy email program that she's got!!! Help me! I'm going insane!!

cybele (cybele), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 19:14 (twenty-one years ago) link

Ex-coworker:

big flat mole on the left side of his face with 9 really long and scraggly hairs growing out of it. He was always playing with them... twisting and pulling on them (but not pulling them out.) Very distracting....

order some disorder, Wednesday, 2 April 2003 23:19 (twenty-one years ago) link

I'm a systems analyst/programmer, and I was trying to specify changes we needed to make to a particular script. This was what I received by email from the person in charge of the results of this script:

"Please tell me if you understand what I am saying, at the moment in the exqualifier there are only a 4 digit code, you append another 3 in front of them I don't know where, but doesn't matter anyway to sort out the letter in the front for the new code."

I assure you it makes only 1% more sense to me than it does to you.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Thursday, 3 April 2003 10:19 (twenty-one years ago) link

In the one office job that I've had, there weren't any really annoying people. Of course, there were people who I just didn't like very much, but they were manageable. The only colleague that caused me any emotional trouble was this extremely stressed administrator who used to shout "Don't fucking second-guess me! If you want to second-guess me then you can DO MY FUCKING JOB!" He would also crush pens in his fist when he was frustrated.

Andrew (enneff), Thursday, 3 April 2003 10:54 (twenty-one years ago) link

The worst is the war talk. It's died down some this week, but last week they were talking about the POWs, and one mentioned that a 19-year-old girl was missing, making sure to mention that she was white. They said, "Oh, well you know what those Iraqis are going to do to her." Then someone else said, "The way they are, they probably do that to the men too." Utterly baseless, racist shit like that. Talking about how the antiwar protestors should be sent to fight in Iraq. I can't complain or say anything because it's a very small office and I have to work with these people every day.

Nick A. (Nick A.), Thursday, 3 April 2003 11:23 (twenty-one years ago) link

That sounds like a damn good reason to complain and say a LOT!

toraneko (toraneko), Thursday, 3 April 2003 14:18 (twenty-one years ago) link

Two of my coworkers almost got into a physical fight the other day. The male one has a lot of disgusting, annoying habits (chewing 20 pieces of gum at once loudly, chewing tobacco at his desk (!!!), banging really loud on his keyboard to look busy, reading porn all day, imitating people, etc). The girl one is very high strung and stressed. For some reason, it was deemed a good idea to sit them together. She tells him to stop being so noisy. He then proceeds to tell me and an unrelated coworker that he was going to be as annoying as possible to piss her off all day. Banging around, spitting tobacco loudly, etc. So at one point he leans over her cubicle and yells "SCOOBY DOO!" in her face. She pretty much dives over the cubicle yelling "FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU".

THis goes on at least ONCE A WEEK in my office.

Ally (mlescaut), Thursday, 3 April 2003 14:35 (twenty-one years ago) link

Having accepted that Ally works in a sitcom, who is the character actor who plays Crunchy, the loveable old drunk security guard who comes in each week with his catchphrase, "Gimme my bourbon!" to massed cheers?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 3 April 2003 14:40 (twenty-one years ago) link

Our security guards are 20 year old men who'd let in any attractive woman but stop all the men. I'm telling you, if the terrorists really want to succeed, they'll just send in 20 year old girls with bombs strapped to their asses.

Also, I don't think the owner's secretary knows how to use the phone properly, because she's always complaining that "the phones are down", but it's only her phone, apparently. And when someone comes in to test it, it works.

Ally (mlescaut), Thursday, 3 April 2003 14:45 (twenty-one years ago) link

20 year old girls with bombs strapped to their asses

I think you just identified the perv dream of far too many people in the world. But you'd have to give them guns too.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 3 April 2003 14:47 (twenty-one years ago) link

Well I nominate the owner's secretary to test that out, cos she's hella insane.

Ally (mlescaut), Thursday, 3 April 2003 14:49 (twenty-one years ago) link

But the guards would notice the bombs if they were tied to a girl's ass, obv.

Sarah McLUsky (coco), Thursday, 3 April 2003 14:57 (twenty-one years ago) link

They should tie the bomb to her personality.

Nick A. (Nick A.), Thursday, 3 April 2003 15:58 (twenty-one years ago) link

he really chews tobacco? fer real?

g-kit (g-kit), Friday, 4 April 2003 07:12 (twenty-one years ago) link

Does he have a spitoon?

smee (smee), Friday, 4 April 2003 07:14 (twenty-one years ago) link

My co-worker made me cry (again) on Wednesday. She is just a big walking slapped arse of a woman. Who is able to reduce me to tears.

Madeleine (Madeleine), Friday, 4 April 2003 07:29 (twenty-one years ago) link

Oh Madeleine. She is truly the spawn of Satan. Go to the Call Someone a Cockfarmer thread and do it.

The only really annoying thing my current co-workers do is send me ridiculous spam forwards about poisoned shampoo samples (normally originating from higher up in the Council!), then look sceptical when I explain that it's a dumb scaremongering thing to do. Also I have to tell them how to spell things all the live long day.

Liz :x (Liz :x), Friday, 4 April 2003 07:41 (twenty-one years ago) link

Someone at work has had 'restless' tattooed on their back in Goffick lowercase; apparently it's been there for a year and I've only just noticed it. NB I hate tattoos. Hate them.

suzy (suzy), Friday, 4 April 2003 08:04 (twenty-one years ago) link

One day Maddie, one day... DragonArse will FEEL the vengeance of the massed Sinister/ILX chix0r!

Archel (Archel), Friday, 4 April 2003 09:16 (twenty-one years ago) link

Haha I forgot the coworker (who I usually like) who got me to print out his entire NOVEL, on company ink and paper, on my time. AND he said as he gave me the disk, 'oh I had some problem with the headers and footers, can you just go through and tweak them for me?'

Archel (Archel), Friday, 4 April 2003 09:18 (twenty-one years ago) link

Forward emails from within the company SuXx.

Sarah McLusky (coco), Friday, 4 April 2003 12:27 (twenty-one years ago) link

Business dude actually just came up with something funny, he and my boss are talking about some project, and the communication problems involved, my boss is like "are you having a problem w/Krystal?" "no, i kicked that habit!" I snickered and they all looked over at me.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 4 April 2003 15:29 (twenty-one years ago) link

Right. Lovely Doreen across from my is the team's adorably cantankerous aunt figure. Today and for the past couple she has been singing in her squeaky wavering voice NEARLY ALL THE BLOODY TIME and now it's really buttock-clenchingly annoying. And to think that I used to like Gershwin's Summertime.

Liz :x (Liz :x), Thursday, 10 April 2003 10:42 (twenty-one years ago) link

Ally it could be worse our security consists of a bunch of 90 year old men. Like these guys are going to be able to chase down any terrorists? "Stop right there! " *gets on motorized scooter* One of them wears his friggin slippers, seriously. I'm always think that if a situation arises he may just throw a corduroy slipper at someone.

Chris V. (Chris V), Thursday, 10 April 2003 10:52 (twenty-one years ago) link

The office manager is out of town, so now the chirpy kiss-ass girl in our office has taken it upon herself to be "in charge." She's delegating work and shit, but she has the same position as everybody else. Argh.

Nick A. (Nick A.), Thursday, 10 April 2003 11:04 (twenty-one years ago) link

Nick, tell her to "delegate this" and point to your crotch.

Chris V. (Chris V), Thursday, 10 April 2003 11:06 (twenty-one years ago) link

I discovered today that my annoying co-worker had switched the sound off on my phone, so I've missed a day and a half's worth of calls. I asked if she'd mind putting a note on my desk next time so I'd know what she'd done and she took Major Offense and hasn't spoken to me since. This is the same woman who, when I told her Ally's flat had been freezing cold all weekend and the landlord still hadn't fixed it asked if the landlord was a Paki. Nice.

I have found that replying to annoying forwarders with a link to Urban Legends stops them dead in their tracks.

Madchen (Madchen), Thursday, 10 April 2003 11:27 (twenty-one years ago) link

Offence, bah.

Madchen (Madchen), Thursday, 10 April 2003 11:28 (twenty-one years ago) link

She is out of the office the entire day today. Boo-yah!

Nick A. (Nick A.), Thursday, 10 April 2003 11:28 (twenty-one years ago) link

Hi Madchen!

One of our senior partners asked me to scan some pictures for his daughter this morning, first thing - they were from medical books, examples of colostomys, I still feel ill.....

smee (smee), Thursday, 10 April 2003 11:31 (twenty-one years ago) link

The new guy, Steve, who sits across from me is always talking to himself. It's like, this job ain't all that stressful, dude. But, headphones are a god send.

Aaron W (Aaron W), Thursday, 10 April 2003 11:36 (twenty-one years ago) link

To answer the questions upthread: yes, he chews tobacco at his desk and spits it into either an emptied Snapple bottle or his trash can! It's disgusting.

Not so much technically a coworker, but our auditors. There's this one who is the biggest prick bastard on the planet. He actually came and TOLD ME OFF because the company didn't order enough of the type of soda he enjoys - keep in mind A) this is not a supermarket B) this is not his actual workplace. Very nasty like too, I ended up telling him "YO, WALK YOUR ASS TO THE FUCKING FOOD EMPORIUM AND BUY YOURSELF SOME COKE".

Ally (mlescaut), Thursday, 10 April 2003 13:12 (twenty-one years ago) link

There's a woman in our office (our AP clerk) who's going to quit if our new CFO doesn't give her an unpaid day off next week. I'm trying to figure out who's more unreasonable here. Our auditors are so nice that they're surprised that we provide them with air to breathe while they're working.

Bryan (Bryan), Thursday, 10 April 2003 13:21 (twenty-one years ago) link

My (nice enough) co-workers are currently crowing like idiots at the arrival of a new desk. Happily, I'm only here until the end of April.

Nordicskillz (Nordicskillz), Thursday, 10 April 2003 13:22 (twenty-one years ago) link

Ally, I thought you were quitting that job?

Carey (Carey), Thursday, 10 April 2003 13:24 (twenty-one years ago) link

oh god, the stupidity five feet from me. People people people.

Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Thursday, 10 April 2003 14:12 (twenty-one years ago) link

I like my coworkers - what the hell is wrong with me?

Wouldn't you like to know (Amused), Thursday, 10 April 2003 14:22 (twenty-one years ago) link

Maybe you're the stupid annoying co-worker? HA! Just jokes.

Bryan (Bryan), Thursday, 10 April 2003 14:24 (twenty-one years ago) link

okay stupid c-w near me turns every topic of conversation into something about her and how she knows everything. it's killing me. i was having a serious discussion about the cinema (e.g. Hitchcock and Marx Bros) with a colleague and she butts in with "you know what movie I like? Steel Magnolias."
And totally killed the conversation. I should get her to log on to ILX, she'd be popular.

Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Thursday, 10 April 2003 15:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

two weeks pass...
Rather a strong smell of bullshit in my office this morning. Creepy tedious boss is having a meeting with some orange-faced, power-suited crone who just said "I have whinges, but I have solutions. I *never* whinge without solutions."

I had to do the "no, I'm not snorting with laughter, I'm coughing" thing

And hey up, here comes smug, minging, briefcase-carrying 22-year-old rugby player that likes to touch my shoulder.

Ten more working days until I leave multinational corporate hell.

j0e (j0e), Friday, 25 April 2003 09:50 (twenty-one years ago) link

oh and orange-faced power suit has the most annoying way of saying "yes" I have EVER heard. she is saying "ee-yop. ee-yop. eeyop" fucking constantly - it sounds like the mating call of a haughty toad

j0e (j0e), Friday, 25 April 2003 09:52 (twenty-one years ago) link

So, this morning I'm kind of asked about the milk in our fridge here, right? Now, we had about 3/4 of a thing of half&half, a half of skim, and about 1/3 of regular milk, so it really wouldn't be necessary to get more anyway. So I informed the coworker in question, who is quite possibly the most obnoxious man in the universe*, that really our policy is to only order on Mondays because it goes bad sitting around over the weekend, and that I thought we had enough anyway, but I would check and see how much they had downstairs. So I go downstairs, have a chat with some of the people, see they have the same amount we had upstairs in the milk area, and returned upstairs. I'm promptly yelled at about the milk. I go into the fridge and see that there is NO MILK LEFT. Meanwhile, there is a suspicious white film in the sink.

The motherfucker dumped out the fucking milk to prove a point.

* This person also imitates everyone's voices all day, chews tobacco at his desk, and looks at hardcore porn, openly, at his cubicle.

Ally (mlescaut), Friday, 25 April 2003 14:17 (twenty-one years ago) link

Kill him - it's that simple.

smee (smee), Friday, 25 April 2003 14:21 (twenty-one years ago) link

I already informed someone that if he shows up in the East River, I need an alibi.

Ally (mlescaut), Friday, 25 April 2003 14:24 (twenty-one years ago) link

You were fishing.

Chris V. (Chris V), Friday, 25 April 2003 14:27 (twenty-one years ago) link

I want a 'Bring your Ally to work day.' Every office needs an Ally!

Sarah McLUsky (coco), Friday, 25 April 2003 14:28 (twenty-one years ago) link

He sounds hideous, what a cockfarmer - you have my sympathy.

I was fishing also, with you and Chris V...I flew over just to fish....

smee (smee), Friday, 25 April 2003 14:30 (twenty-one years ago) link

I just had an hour long meeting with a supervisor about this. He basically agreed that the guy has gotten to the point that, not only does he do nothing, but he actively harrasses his other coworkers, particularly the females (a day doesn't go by without him making a sexual comment towards me, on top of this cockfarmery behavior), and it's making everyone miserable. SO WHY IS HE NOT FIRED? WHO KNOWS!! IT'S THE MYSTERY OF MY WORKPLACE!

Ally (mlescaut), Friday, 25 April 2003 15:31 (twenty-one years ago) link

I got your alibi, Ally

luna (luna.c), Friday, 25 April 2003 15:42 (twenty-one years ago) link

Haha I feel like Pee Wee Herman. "What's the significance? I....DON'T....KNOW!"

Ally (mlescaut), Friday, 25 April 2003 15:55 (twenty-one years ago) link

I have a co-worker who looks at porn all day, too. I'm not a prude or anything, but he doesn't have a cubicle and I don't need to know about his ass fetish. People have to walk past his area, so they can't avoid noticing it. This is the same guy who printed out his sex chats and left them in the communal printer. One woman told him to keep it at home, she didn't need to see that and he said, "people from the south side are such prudes!"

Meanwhile, I am on top of the office statscock in production. Porn guy is taking his revenge on me by rearranging his work area so that he can see my terminal at all times. He seems baffled, though, that someone would check a BB or news site instead of porn or sports.

Kerry (dymaxia), Friday, 25 April 2003 16:03 (twenty-one years ago) link

Annoying papertaking lady, still bugs me. Today I farted right before she walked into my cube. She left quickly.

Chris V. (Chris V), Friday, 25 April 2003 16:04 (twenty-one years ago) link

Ally, you're the milk monitor *and* the bathroom monitor? Whatever they pay you it isn't enough.

I really like my fellow teachers. We keep each other sane. Our principal however is a cockfarmer of the highest order. He cracks us up.

That Girl (thatgirl), Friday, 25 April 2003 16:07 (twenty-one years ago) link

Am I the only one who works somewhere where looking at porn is a fireable offence? Its a serious breach of HR policy, and if anyone dobbed someone in for trawling porn and having sex chats at work they'd be out on their ear instantly (I would hope). Ew.

This whole thread makes me like my job again. Its hilarious. Especially MsLara's story about the cow-orker sticking floppies to the filing cabinet with magnets - classick! I used to love reading the tech horror stories at www.rinkworks.com - stuff very much like this.

Trayce (trayce), Friday, 25 April 2003 23:50 (twenty-one years ago) link

Ally and Kerry, both of your co-workers are breaking the law and exposing your companies to lawsuits. Tell your bosses about the potential cost of liabilities to settle a sexual harassment suit, and they'll fire these guys quick enough.

hstencil, Friday, 25 April 2003 23:53 (twenty-one years ago) link

hstencil, my bosses are already aware.

Ally (mlescaut), Friday, 25 April 2003 23:55 (twenty-one years ago) link

I know I'm late to this, but:

"I'm telling you, if the terrorists really want to succeed, they'll just send in 20 year old girls with bombs strapped to their asses."

In other words: "Take my thong off and my ass go BOOM"

I wish I had some good coworker stories, but the only problem I have is the one who sings along to the radio all the time and jokes about hanging a big "GO AWAY" sign on the Statue of Liberty.

Nate Patrin (Nate Patrin), Saturday, 26 April 2003 00:52 (twenty-one years ago) link

Forward emails from within the company SuXx.

Not as much as e-mails to the entire company, saying something like "I lost my favorite pen in the 5th floor conference room; if you see it be sure to bring it back to my desk." One thing I'm not going to welcome if I ever get a regular job again.

j.lu (j.lu), Saturday, 26 April 2003 00:55 (twenty-one years ago) link

Our security guards are 20 year old men who'd let in any attractive woman but stop all the men.

Oh, this reminds me of when I worked for that obstetricians and gynecologists association. This was before 9/11, but the organization was targeted by a number of anti-abortion groups, so you had to show a badge or be vouched for by a staffer to get in the building.

Unless you're Santa Claus. One day in October a man in a Santa suit got past the guards without showing a badge or being accompanied. Given some of the security types I've met, it's entirely possible they still believed in Santa, and were afraid that he wouldn't bring them anything in December.

j.lu (j.lu), Saturday, 26 April 2003 01:02 (twenty-one years ago) link

Our company points out its right to monitor us in stickers on every computer, and certainly browsing porn would be a serious offence. The only time I've had porn in my browser at work was when there was a tube strike once. I wanted to visit the London Transport site, and typed in londontransport.com - this led to a porn site. .co.uk, of course.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Saturday, 26 April 2003 10:04 (twenty-one years ago) link

Papertaking Lady this morning : "Guess What?"
Chris : "What?"
PTL : "I'm going to see Cher!!!"
C: "Great."
PTL : "What you don't like Cher?"
C : "Not exactly, look at my cd's does it look like it?"
PTL : "What the hell is this music, its probably all that "rap" junk isn't it. I'm stealing your paper..."
C: *puts headphones back on*

Chris V. (Chris V), Wednesday, 30 April 2003 11:51 (twenty-one years ago) link

But, Chris - Don't you BEEEELIEEVE in life after Love?!

Sarah McLusky (coco), Wednesday, 30 April 2003 11:53 (twenty-one years ago) link

NO

Chris V. (Chris V), Wednesday, 30 April 2003 12:02 (twenty-one years ago) link

ha HA :)

Sarah McLusky (coco), Wednesday, 30 April 2003 12:17 (twenty-one years ago) link

Can't you feel something inside yourself? I really don't think you're strong enough, Chris.

Andrew (enneff), Wednesday, 30 April 2003 13:15 (twenty-one years ago) link

die

Chris V. (Chris V), Wednesday, 30 April 2003 13:16 (twenty-one years ago) link

Well, first of all, h., I don't really want to get someone fired. He's an okay guy, he just doesn't have good self-control. I don't feel "harassed" by his behavior - he's not trying to intimidate anyone. I feel more sorry for him than anything. Oh, he also did phone sex at work once with someone he met in a chat room. He seems really unhappy and this is an escape for him.

I don't like going over people's heads and playing boss unless they're bullying me, which he's not. Furthermore, he seems to have very low self-esteem and doesn't try very hard to boost his job skills - either that or he just doesn't know how - so he would have a difficult time finding another job, I think. He's just one of those people who hasn't adapted well to office culture and doesn't seem to get it. He's hurting himself more than anyone. I did privately speak to a male co-worker who is sort of friendly with this man, intimating that if x would listen to anyone, it would be another man.

I'd just rather have my own cubicle that is more than six feet away from him because I am toooo aware of his problems. I feel a little better about it lately because I have a new boss who seems to be a little more sensitive to my situation.

Secondly, he would never get into trouble for s.h. because it's a verrrry liberal environment and no one does anything like that. The only time someone got fir@d was when this woman, who was a hypochondriac and habitual liar, said that she lost relatives in 9/11 and needed to take some time off to grieve, which was just about the last straw.

Finally, I walked in on the dept. head looking at soft-core porn, so no one is going to point the finger at someone else. Since we partly deal in "erotica", I'm sure he could just say he was doing important research for the collection.

look upthread, Wednesday, 30 April 2003 13:19 (twenty-one years ago) link

I happen to have the cd single of Believe by Cher in my cd player right now. It's a good song.

toraneko (toraneko), Wednesday, 30 April 2003 13:35 (twenty-one years ago) link

yes, it looks like April 30 is yet another day when hstencil comes about this close *pinches thumb and index finger together* from walking the fuck out of his office, never to return.

hstencil, Wednesday, 30 April 2003 17:52 (twenty-one years ago) link

Well, I go into the bathroom today and there are pennies all over the place, like 20 of them. I find this weird and then realize one of the stall doors will not lock anymore. OUR BATHROOM DOOR WAS BEING HELD TOGETHER BY PENNIES. I don't know how or why but WE BUILD BUILDINGS FOR A LIVING HERE, PEOPLE.

Ally (mlescaut), Wednesday, 30 April 2003 17:55 (twenty-one years ago) link

that is amazing, Ally.

hstencil, Wednesday, 30 April 2003 17:59 (twenty-one years ago) link

I don't know how you even hold a door together with pennies. I think McGuyver must work here.

Ally (mlescaut), Wednesday, 30 April 2003 18:07 (twenty-one years ago) link

if he did, he'd sexually harass you with a pocket knife, household bleach, and a foot of yarn.

(sorry)

hstencil, Wednesday, 30 April 2003 18:08 (twenty-one years ago) link

No, then it would be chewing gum and a paper clip.

luna (luna.c), Wednesday, 30 April 2003 18:09 (twenty-one years ago) link

what, he works at your office then?

hstencil, Wednesday, 30 April 2003 18:09 (twenty-one years ago) link

If this bitch tries to go over my head with one of her ridiculous requests and keeps second guessing every fucking thing I say, I will dump her over the balcony on the 16th floor. The end.

luna (luna.c), Wednesday, 30 April 2003 18:10 (twenty-one years ago) link

Are you kidding? The morons I work with barely know how to tie their own shoes, much less be useful at fixing anything.

luna (luna.c), Wednesday, 30 April 2003 18:11 (twenty-one years ago) link

Yeah, I bet your coworkers wouldn't invent penny mechanisms to hold together locks.

Now somehow it is my responsibility to fix this? I guess since I am the bathroom monitor. BETTER BUST OUT MY PIGGY BANK!

Ally (mlescaut), Wednesday, 30 April 2003 18:16 (twenty-one years ago) link

Try nickels.

luna (luna.c), Wednesday, 30 April 2003 18:18 (twenty-one years ago) link

I find nickels to be particularly useless change to begin with, does anyone ever actually use them?

Ally (mlescaut), Wednesday, 30 April 2003 18:23 (twenty-one years ago) link

no. Nickels and pennies should be destroyed.

If it was my office, my co-workers would complain "Oh, we don't have the budget for nickels!" People, we work at a bank with a $110 BN market cap. Don't be afraid to spend some money, for chrissakes.

hstencil, Wednesday, 30 April 2003 18:25 (twenty-one years ago) link

I sort of like them, I don't know why.

luna (luna.c), Wednesday, 30 April 2003 18:28 (twenty-one years ago) link

Yesterday, I was sitting at a toll, and I dropped my dime in between the car seats. I had exact change! So I was fumbling around when someone who works the tolls came over to my car (as I was holding up traffic). I told him what happened. He reached his hand in the rejected coins container and pulled out a nickel. Then it turned out they accept pennies too and I had 5! So I was happy to have my little coins around.

Sarah McLusky (coco), Wednesday, 30 April 2003 18:30 (twenty-one years ago) link

I'm listening to my co-worker tell me all kinds of stories about big, gnarly spiders she's seen, run into, squashed, whatever, and ok, I'm a baby, but I fucking cannot deal with spiders, real or imagined. I've asked her to stop, and she's just not. I think she likes seeing me wigged out. Bitch. My plan is to set off a smoke bomb and belly crawl my way out of here.

Failing that, I'm going to vomit on her.

luna (luna.c), Tuesday, 6 May 2003 17:08 (twenty-one years ago) link

Yesterday, about a half-hour after I found out I won't be working in this group much longer, I was in a hour-long conference call (was supposed to be a satellite broadcast, but it got fucked up by whomever here is in charge of these things) in which my co-workers basically hooted, hollered and laughed through the entire thing. This wouldn't normally be so bad, except the project the call detailed is basically, in a sense, what I've been working on, albeit Bank-wide instead of our division. Thanks for the send-off, guys.

hstencil, Tuesday, 6 May 2003 17:24 (twenty-one years ago) link

Oh, this thread is so classic. Thank you for sharing your horror stories; it makes me feel so much better, i.e. I'm not the only one here.

I have a co-worker who tut-tuts whenever I pass her cubicle. She's one of these people who absolutely has to wear designer fashions and who thinks I'm below her because I wear Cheap Generica. She also wears the most obnoxious-smelling perfume I have ever had the misfortune of smelling. I would rather smell someone else's perspiration, it's that bad.

Another co-worker of mine is an overgrown boy. He stashes comic books all around his cubicle, plays computer games every chance he gets, and tells pathetic, juvenile jokes we've all heard 1,000 times before but that he seems to find funny. If it weren't for the fact that he always manages to get his work done (he handles the paychecks for oncology, which is this huge department with hundreds of employees), I would be ticked off at him. As for now, I just roll my eyes and consider him pathetic while wondering how he manages to do it all.

Oh! Who around here has to share a printer with several other people? I do, as I'm sure many of you do, and what always ticks me off is when someone just throws around other people's print jobs without thinking, "Gee, maybe someone might actually want to find all of their printed pages. Perhaps I could leave a neat pile after picking up my print job, instead of leaving this messy pile where nothing is in order." I have my suspicions of who the culprit might be, but I've never been able to catch the person and I don't think it's one of the aforementioned people because the woman is a total neat freak and the man doesn't share the same printer with me.

Still, at least it's not that bad. I can manage, and sometimes I feel that all of the above add a bit of color to the work environment. And my bosses are fab. I lucked out there; in my telesales job, I had bitches on wheels for bosses. In fact, everyone there was bitchy, because we had to deal with a lot of bullshit from people. Never again.

Dee the Semi-Lurker (Dee the Lurker), Wednesday, 7 May 2003 02:37 (twenty-one years ago) link

In my office, if a FAX comes through unaccompanied by a cover sheet, it tends to be tossed straight away. It's rather embarassing when I'm on the phone with another agent and she says, "But I sent that fax a week ago!" And I have to ask, "Did it have a cover? No? It was probably thrown away." "But I wrote your name at the top!" "OH, sorry, it was probably thrown away none-the-less."

Sarah MCLUsky (coco), Wednesday, 7 May 2003 13:42 (twenty-one years ago) link

two weeks pass...
Me again! We have this new guy who is situated at a cube directly across from my office door. He is LOUD as hell. He's been cold-calling all day and using the same lines and jokes in every call trying to pick up sellers (as I'm in real estate). He even started one call with, "Hey! Remember when we used to go out??" Then he laughs REALLY loudly and obnoxiously in this very fake-sounding way A WHOLE HELL OF A LOT. AND he stands up at his cube so that his voice projects around the office instead of sitting the Fk down. Thank you. THat is all for now.

Sarah Mclusky (coco), Wednesday, 21 May 2003 19:12 (twenty years ago) link

We were just doing a big singing and dancing routine to "White Lines" and my boss came out and told us to turn it down and knock it off. FUCKING KILLJOY.

Ally (mlescaut), Thursday, 22 May 2003 18:17 (twenty years ago) link

two weeks pass...
the woman in the cube next to mine has listened to I Will Always Love You repeatedly today, and at one point was kind of humming & singing long quietly.

it's not that annoying, really, but just sort of huh office space is REAL.

g--ff c-nn-n (gcannon), Friday, 6 June 2003 16:06 (twenty years ago) link

So, which version? Dolly or Whitney?

Sarah MClusky (coco), Friday, 6 June 2003 18:00 (twenty years ago) link

Whitney.

And aaaaaaaaaaiiiiiiiistill goin strong, 5 hrs and cou-in'

oh she just hummed along with a melisma there.

g--ff c-nn-n (gcannon), Friday, 6 June 2003 20:04 (twenty years ago) link

the stupid annoying co-worker has just found out I'm single again and so responded by saying "I suppose you'll be off to (insert name of Oxford niteclub here) tonite then?" which I wouldn't have minded if anyone else had said it, but as it was the stupid annoying co-worker I felt like whacking him around the head with my chair.

MarkH (MarkH), Saturday, 7 June 2003 13:25 (twenty years ago) link

I emailed a file to someone today. I was later informed she was "way too busy" to print it, and was told to print it out ten times and walk it to her (in a building 3 blocks away). Keep in mind I'm going to be here til about ten tonight (she isn't) and I had to give up one of my two vacation days because it wasn't "acceptable" for me to take both.

Ally (mlescaut), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 20:47 (twenty years ago) link

There's one guy here who stubbornly, steadfastly refuses to have ANYTHING to do with computers other than the most cursory things. He once asked me, in all seriousness, "Does g*ldmansachs.com have a website?" Unfortunately, he also is the main designer for a bunch of our projects for tech-inclined clients: I shudder in horror to think how clueless he must come off to some of them.

Michael D*ddino (epicharmus), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 22:56 (twenty years ago) link

Maybe I'm just irritable today, but everyone is bugging the hell out of me. I jokingly-but-not-really yelled at my coworkers because they've been bitching about the Xerox machine not working right for the past three weeks, but no one has called the repairman. When I mentioned this, they were like "Well, did you call him?" No, but I haven't been the one griping about it.
Also, there apparently hasn't been a nonrainy weekend in Richmond for the past two months. How do I know this? Because the ladies at the front talk about it EVERY SINGLE DAY. Incessently talking about the fucking weather, the fucking rain. Yes, we have windows in the office, we can see that it's raining outside. And even days like today, when it's not raining and there's even a little sun, they're like "Well, it's probably really muggy."
Finally, no one in my office learned about indoor voices in kindergarden. Everyones normal speaking voice seems to be a low bellow, which is great when you're sitting at your desk trying to read a report and everyone's yelling across the office about the rain and low-calorie recipes and Michael Jackson.

NA. (Nick A.), Wednesday, 18 June 2003 14:30 (twenty years ago) link

NA - IT'S BLOODY RAINING AGAIN! *ducks*

Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Wednesday, 18 June 2003 14:36 (twenty years ago) link

Ha ha! sorry I complained about the weather first thing after stepping off the Greyhound yesterday, Nick! :)

Sarah McLusky (coco), Thursday, 19 June 2003 12:02 (twenty years ago) link

there's a guy a couple cubes down who's in a blues-rock cover band. He talks to me abt it occasionally. Today he was playing his new demo cos there was suddenly really loud passable amateur versions of Midnight Hour and some Santana song I think ringing throughout the office. People were oohing and aahing abt it.

abt an hour ago he came up and gave me a cd and told me to listen to his new demo. I'm hoping it's a COPY that I can just take home and not like the actual THING that I would have to listen to promptly and then talk to him about.

sigh.

g--ff c-nn-n (gcannon), Tuesday, 24 June 2003 19:11 (twenty years ago) link

goddammit he just came by to ask what I thought.

his solos are crap.

g--ff c-nn-n (gcannon), Tuesday, 24 June 2003 19:24 (twenty years ago) link

Did you kick him in the nuts and say, "That's what I thought, BEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE-yotch!"?

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 24 June 2003 19:27 (twenty years ago) link

fuck i'm gonna have to divert him with another gear conversation. "so what kind of mic setup did you use YOU DELUDED BOOMER HOBBYIST BORE"

g--ff c-nn-n (gcannon), Tuesday, 24 June 2003 19:34 (twenty years ago) link

or I could kick him in the nuts.

g--ff c-nn-n (gcannon), Tuesday, 24 June 2003 19:34 (twenty years ago) link

SMOOTH OPERATOR seriously what the fuck am I gonna say?

g--ff c-nn-n (gcannon), Tuesday, 24 June 2003 19:37 (twenty years ago) link

ask 'im if it goes up to 11.

hstencil, Tuesday, 24 June 2003 19:40 (twenty years ago) link

yeah tech conversations are probably your best bet. What is the demo for...getting gigs or what?

teeny (teeny), Tuesday, 24 June 2003 19:43 (twenty years ago) link

Tell him that you are the A&R rep for a major label, and that you've just been working undercover at your office in order to scout out new talent. Then tell him his band sucks and kick him in the nuts.

NA. (Nick A.), Tuesday, 24 June 2003 19:46 (twenty years ago) link

yeah, gigs I guess. PEOPLE I AM IN SERIOUS SHIT HERE COME ON. I think he has the inkling that I'm not really in the jake n elwood demographic, but he's obviously proud of his thing, too.

GAAAH ok the horns on Midnight Hour are really keyboardy and fake, but that's nothing I can compliment him on.

g--ff c-nn-n (gcannon), Tuesday, 24 June 2003 19:49 (twenty years ago) link

I mean the horn break ends up sounding like late Undertones!! a little < /rationalizing>

g--ff c-nn-n (gcannon), Tuesday, 24 June 2003 19:50 (twenty years ago) link

Oh yeah if you want to fuck with him a little tell him the brittle keyboards are satie-like in their jarring simplicity or some such.

teeny (teeny), Tuesday, 24 June 2003 19:59 (twenty years ago) link

Not stupid or annoying, but I had one of these weird moments at work when you realise your values and ideas are incommensurable with someone else's. One of our senior managers dropped me a line thanking me for some good work I've been doing, and said he'd make sure that it gets a mention in the director's 'weekly brief', his notes to the division. I had a moment thinking 'why?' before realising this was his idea of a reward, of some prize I'd earned. I do want him to tell the director about my good work, but that's because the director will have a very big say in whether I get promoted or not in some months, but the 'brief' thing is 100% irrelevant.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Tuesday, 24 June 2003 20:04 (twenty years ago) link

ok, it's over, he came by, I said it sounded good, nice and clean (eugh), the woman on the sade song has a good voice, drums were mixed well, etc.

him: "our version of midnight hour I think improves on the original. the old one is kinda slow, you know? ours is more modern"

g--ff c-nn-n (gcannon), Tuesday, 24 June 2003 20:13 (twenty years ago) link

okay now you get to kick him in the nuts.

teeny (teeny), Tuesday, 24 June 2003 20:16 (twenty years ago) link

For maximum effect, get him to stand in front of your chair as you sit in it, lean back and pummel his crotch with double-barrell tantrum kicks.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 24 June 2003 20:33 (twenty years ago) link

I love this thread. Alas I no longer have anything to contribute. So far, all of my new co-workers seem great. DAMMIT.

j0e (j0e), Tuesday, 24 June 2003 20:44 (twenty years ago) link

i think you should really go along with him enthusiastically on it being better than all 60s and 70s soul ever, in an intense and creepy way

mark s (mark s), Tuesday, 24 June 2003 21:16 (twenty years ago) link

Then kick yourself in the crotch!

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 24 June 2003 21:23 (twenty years ago) link

my commitment to living theater only goes so far

g--ff c-nn-n (gcannon), Tuesday, 24 June 2003 23:00 (twenty years ago) link

him: "our version of midnight hour I think improves on the original. the old one is kinda slow, you know? ours is more modern"

You've got to play him the Jam's version, explain that it was done fully 20 years ago, then kick him in the nuts.

nickn (nickn), Wednesday, 25 June 2003 06:40 (twenty years ago) link

two months pass...
The agent in the office next to mine (our walls are paper thin) was just on the phone yelling. It went something like this:

"GET me my money! That's all I care about, ok? Get up, find someone who can find me my money! I'm sick and tired of talking to you! You obviously aren't listening to a word I say! Not a word! Nobody is able to tell me where my money was, and to be frankly honest, I don't care for this whole process one bit....Get ME MY MONEY! I really hate this. Where is my money? Where did it all go? Haven't you ever heard of an electronic check? I have records of it! So where is IT??? Give me someone else. Give me someone else to talk to. I don't want to talk to you any more. I mean, I'm sorry but this isn't gonna cut it. I want my money NOW!"

I was half-expecting him to say SHOW me the money. OH, well.

It was all very gangsta-sounding, but that's probably just because of the special russian mafia double episode of Law & Order I watched last night.

Sarah McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 26 August 2003 13:03 (twenty years ago) link

"I think I'm one of those type-A personality adrenaline junkies you hear about. Addicted to stimulation, you know? Like when I'm surfing the net I usually have about 8 windows open at once!"

dave q, Tuesday, 26 August 2003 18:28 (twenty years ago) link

Her*: Can you straighten me out here?
Me: What's the problem?
Her: We've billed this guy $24**, he called and wants to know what it's for.
Me: He added that tractor to his policy. It's additional premium.
Her: Okay, but what's the $24 for?
Me: The additional premium on the tractor.
Her: (long pause)
Her: So what should we do about this?
Me: Tell him to pay the $24.
Her: How should he do that?
Me: Tell him to send a check payable to us in with his bill.
Her: What bill?
Me: The bill that he called us about.
Her: What's the bill for?
Me: (in my mind) GOD DAMN IT JUST RETIRE NOW YOU USELESS BAG OF FLESH
Me: (slowly) That bill is for the additional premium on his policy for the addition of the tractor.
Her: So...(pause) does he need to pay this?
Me: Yes. If he wants coverage for his tractor.
Her: Are you sure he wants that?
Me: Are you sure you're asking me the right question? It's not that complicated.
Her: Have you been listening to me?

*she has been very stupid all her life, now she's stupid and senile

**it's. just. 24. dollars. FERKRISAKE!

nickalicious (nickalicious), Tuesday, 26 August 2003 19:16 (twenty years ago) link

The woman at the desk next to mine has been working on this project for a while. Granted, it's a shit project, falling apart and full of problems. But she's been working on it from the start, so if it's shit, it's at least partially her fault. So if I have to keep listening to her moan "I hate this!" and sigh and make fake crying sounds every 15 seconds, I am going to beat her face in with her own sense of self-importance. WE'VE ALL GOT SHIT TO DO SO CHILL OUT.

NA (Nick A.), Tuesday, 26 August 2003 19:24 (twenty years ago) link

THere is another newspaper stealer here now. Except when she steals it, she never puts it back in its proper place on my desk. She just leaves it wherever. It drives me nuts.

Chris V. (Chris V), Wednesday, 27 August 2003 15:14 (twenty years ago) link

I just stopped by the free lunch that the office next door is throwing us. A woman had come by earlier begging me to come. There are 10 pizzas, every single one a different flavor, but none one of them is meat-less! And I'm so hungry. Bah.

Sarah Mclusky (coco), Wednesday, 27 August 2003 15:42 (twenty years ago) link

"GET me my money! That's all I care about, ok?...I want my money NOW!"

hee hee.

"If Dirty want his money,
Y'all should give him his money..."

Kingfish (Kingfish), Wednesday, 27 August 2003 19:40 (twenty years ago) link

OK, I am working on a little freelance job, updating HTML and ASP pages on a simple web site. I can't connect to the right server to upload the pages myself so that they go live. The reason is, of course, the website is behind a firewall on a departmental server and I am not connected to their network on my PC!

This person I agreed to work for does all Web work through FrontPage. Has NO CONCEPT of the code behind pages or the fact that you don't have to do everything using FrontPage. Tells me that my problem for uploading files is that I have "not logged on to FrontPage." I patiently try and explain, over and over, that it HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH FRONTPAGE. He doesn't believe me.

Then, he suggests I try and "get a copy" of FrontPage off of a techie guy he knows who used to work for Microsoft. You see, this person who specializes in business is now asking me to obtain illegal copies of software for his convenience.

The ironing is delicious. I am this close to saying, next time he insists on FrontPage, if YOU KNOW SO MUCH about how this crapsh!t software works why did you HIRE ME?

daria g (daria g), Thursday, 28 August 2003 00:20 (twenty years ago) link

I had fun like that when I was a freelance web designer. I did very simple work, I wasn't aufait with backend or anything, but once I did this site for a so called "web design" company (who were useless shits), doing up a basic page for a drycleaning firm.

I was asked to scan in and include full colour pics of the (incredibly unattractive) staff, and so I did (even though I tried to tactfully suggest this wasn't a good idea), but they came back complaining that all the photos looked really bad, blotchy and/or black and white. They looked perfectly fine on various machines I used and it then ocurred to me they were probably looking on a shitty old 16 colour monitor.

So I explained this to the so-called web design co. I was freelancing for and they simply said "make the photos better quality, the client isnt happy". WTF!??!?! They were already 256 colour good quality jpgs.

I rather wisely told them to shove theit freelance work up their arses not long after. The end client having no clue is one thing, but the design company also having no clue was a downright hoot.

Trayce (trayce), Thursday, 28 August 2003 00:54 (twenty years ago) link

Don't even get me started on the person who wanted me to build a database-driven cataloguing system for their department's video library fiefdom complete with a front-end Web interface, access control, and on the cheap without a server or any software better than FileMaker 4.

They didn't understand why it's useful to upgrade for under $100 to FileMaker 6 because "we just upgraded three years ago."

No, I will not fix your computer.

daria g (daria g), Thursday, 28 August 2003 01:03 (twenty years ago) link

Oh, and my other favorite thing is that since I am a student, nobody expects to pay me any more than the appropriate wages for a student employee. This is absurd! If anything, I need the money a lot MORE now; the same job you get $20-$25 an hour for in the corporate setting, you get $12/hour for now, because that's comparable to what miserable stipends pay.

The university system is totally fuX0red.

daria g (daria g), Thursday, 28 August 2003 01:06 (twenty years ago) link

For those computing types, can I just mention the specification that wanted "an information-holding database", and the form entitled "Data Maintenance", which didn't seem to narrow it down a lot.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Thursday, 28 August 2003 16:20 (twenty years ago) link

two months pass...
grr fume fume fume just seconds ago the woman in my office who a) i hate more than nearly anyone else living and b) is convinced i am one of her friends in the office (see where quiet self-effacement gets you?) just left my cube after her weekly 'hey geoff, i haven't talked to you in a while, let me bother you with an update of the same sisyphean inanitites of my life as last time, even though your complete lack of eye contact or multisyllabic replies, and sudden absorbtion in your work, would suggest you don't, and in fact have never, wanted to hear or see me in the least' routine.

she is completely fucking unconscious to any human experience save her own. so blithely chucklingly STUPID that it's hard not to read it as coldhearted viciousness. [nb: she works the phones in the hr dept of the fiscally-haemhoragging laborbashing byzantine ratmaze of a public ed inst where i work]

"oh did you year about MY BIG CRISIS on friday? a man called threatening to kill himself! i mean, i guess he wanted his retirement money to go to his family. it's so funny though, we just had a workshop abt difficult customers and one of the things was someone threatening suicide, and i'm like 'no way, that never happens.' anyway, i guess someone from his office took him to the hospital. this job is so STRESSFUL sometimes, i don't know how i do it! okay, byee!!"

anyone know people like this? everything they say is like listening to someone else's unreliable narrator? let me laugh bitterly and relate this one: "i call my friend [whoever] AAALL the time, but it's their cell phone, and maybe they don't have it on a lot, or it's old and doesn't have caller id, but i have left SOOO many messages about, you know, lunch or something, and they haven't EVER gotten back to me! it's the wierdest thing!" CAN YOU EVEN HEAR YOURSELF NARCISSIZE OVER THE GNASHING OF MY TEETH YOU FUCKING CUNT?!?

g--ff c-nn-n (gcannon), Monday, 3 November 2003 20:36 (twenty years ago) link

I'm currently getting really annoyed by one of my coworkers who can't stop talking about getting drunk, and how drunk she was, and how she likes to go out drinking, and alcohol.

I'm also being irritated by this guy who's over 60 and looks down on me because I'm less than a third his age. It's as if I'm not allowed to have an opinion simply because my brain hasn't deteriorated as much as his has. Bah.

Someone (enneff), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 05:39 (twenty years ago) link

four months pass...
I am trying to think of things that would be more annoying than constantly going on about the price of property and how difficult it is finding and buying a flat. STOP IT!

N. (nickdastoor), Thursday, 18 March 2004 16:07 (twenty years ago) link

Oh crumbs. The (probably really actually disturbed, so I know it's mean to be weirded out) crazy lady from the other end of the corridor (down which, with all the intervening doors closed, one could hear her SCREAMING ARGUMENT with her supervisor the other week) keeps telling me about how her job is so stressful that it's giving her an ulcer and she can't sleep at night. She's a medical secretary. She picks at her hair all the time she's speaking, and always has scratches and bruises on her neck, and regards me as the only sympathetic ear in the building. I don't know how much more I can take, particularly as she has no chitchat resources, but instead launches into a tirade about her managers instantly whenever she comes into my office to use the fax machine. Eurgh and her lipstick (far too bright, really badly applied) is always collecting in the corners of her mouth with flecks of her deranged spittle. Argh.

Liz :x (Liz :x), Thursday, 18 March 2004 16:35 (twenty years ago) link

Every fucking day at 2:00.. 'crunch crunch crunch crunch' .. what in the FUCK is she eating?

dave225 (Dave225), Thursday, 18 March 2004 16:38 (twenty years ago) link

Goddmammit - it's early today. What the fuck is that? If I'm going to go postal, it's going to be because of that goddamned motherfucking annoying as fuck crunching, every fucking day.

You read it here first.

dave225 (Dave225), Friday, 19 March 2004 17:48 (twenty years ago) link

three weeks pass...
I read this entire thread and thought it was hysterical...man...I have these co-workers around me who do nothing but type WAY too loudly on their computers, and eat like fockin' animals and slurp, etc. God, THANK GOD for headphones. There is one person in particular who is starting to resemble a serial killer....very bad karma, if you know what I mean. GET them all away!!

Maven, Tuesday, 13 April 2004 15:30 (twenty years ago) link

Annoying guy who comes into our office to chat says to one of my students : "I didn't know you were Norwegian! Where IS Norwegia, anyway?"

This fellow has a Master's degree and was NOT joking.

Kerry (dymaxia), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 15:45 (twenty years ago) link

Jeez, don't you people know your geography? It's right next to Finlandia.

Sengai, Tuesday, 13 April 2004 15:51 (twenty years ago) link

I despise a certain pretentious fuck who works here and she's currently blabbing all about how awesome she is and all the people she knows and is also hacking up and NOT covering her mouth.

The Huckle-Buck (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 15:56 (twenty years ago) link

two months pass...
STOP WHISTLING

teeny (teeny), Monday, 28 June 2004 14:01 (nineteen years ago) link

The things my boss was singing at the top of his voice:

07/02/2003 : "And in those angel eyes"
"Gimme gimme gimme"
13/02/2003 : "Now you're giving me the WILL to survive"
17/02/2003 : "Come fly with me lets fly lets fly away, choo choo choo choo"
18/02/2003 : "Lost and lonely"
"Now you call my name umm hmm hmm hmm"
"DA DA DA DA DA DA (REALLY FUCKING LOUDLY) MAAGIIC MOMENTS"
27/02/2003 : "My darkest hour, I just get lost"
28/02/2003 : "You came into my liiiife" (quite tuneful this one).
03/03/2003 : He appears to be humming the theme tune from batman, but I could be wrong.
05/03/2003 : "And then you start to scream 'Give it to me'"
07/03/2003 : "You say it best-ah when you say nothing at all"
"Cos breaking up is so"
"You know that I need your tender touch"
10/03/2003 : "Wish you wanted my..." CLICK CLAP CLAP "dum de dum"
12/03/2003 : That Muppets tune followed by...
"You say that you love you love me but then you say you don't
You say you'll come on over but then you say you won't"
13/03/2003 : "Two hearts living in two separate worlds da dap dadap dap"
14/03/2003 : "That's where I'm gonna go when I die CARDIO-VASCULAR!"
"Mr Saturday Dince (?) da da da da daaaa da da da da da da da da da da"
"Doo doo dooo dooo dooo don't get around much any more"
17/03/2003 : "It's a beautiful day"
19/03/2003 : "Every do do do do do dooo do do la la la la la la"
20/03/2003 : "These are the days of our lives"
21/03/2003 : "Is a name I call myself a long long way to run"
"A DROP of golden sun-ah!"
"Nanananana You win again! Mmmmm-hmmmmm"
27/03/2003 : "Alone to the pyramids at night"
"I don't care what they say.... Tomorrow!"
01/04/2003 : "Love! Lift us up where you belong"
08/04/2003 : "Who knows what tomorrow brings"
"All I know is here and now morning ruth"
"Do you need someone to love, bom bom bom bom"
10/04/2003 : "Devoted to you hooom"
14/04/2003 : "No you can't take that away from me"
15/04/2003 : "And if you should discover that you don't really love her"
"Take good care........ of my baby"
"Be just as kind as you can... veee"
16/04/2003 : "RIIIAG NONA RIIIAGGHHH!"
17/04/2003 : "The lambs of mist"
25/04/2003 : "Got my fingers got mah"
06/05/2003 : "In my hour of darkness"
"There will be an answer, let it be"
07/05/2003 : "I'm just a soul whose intentions are good"
08/05/2003 : "I say yes you are wonderful"
27/05/2003 : "I don't care what they say I'm gonna love you child any old way"
"I'll give you dee dee dee I don't care, Yeah!"
30/05/2003 : "Love the one you're with"
02/06/2003 : "Talkin' about..."
"I can't go on..."
05/06/2003 : "Do the little ordinary things that anyone ought to do ba bom ba bom"
"The very thought of you and I forget you the ordinary things"
"I'm living in a time of day"
"Tell me that you'll come on over"
25/06/2003 : "Women of a certain age"
27/06/2003 : "You don't neaaad me"
"Baby now that I've found you da la dela go"
30/06/2003 : "My love won't ever be the same"
"I sit and watch"
"It's not the way you smile that tears me apart"
01/07/2003 : "Don't break my heart"
"Build me a buttercup"
02/07/2003 : "My cherie amour pretty as a summer's day"
03/07/2003 : "And words are all I ha-ave to take my heart away"
04/07/2003 : "THE RISE AND FAAAHHHL! do do do dodododododo" (v. loud)
07/07/2003 : "My back's turned to the sun"
08/07/2003 : "I hope I die"
"The writing's on the wall dldldldldldlddedld"
09/07/2003 : He is singing the match of the day theme tune.
10/07/2003 : He is muttering "Porche" to himself.
11/07/2003 : "I will never let you see"
"I will never let you go"
"How my broken heart is how many good one's we got Frank?"
"Oooh heartaches and pains"
"I'll do my crying in the rain"
"All my heartache and pain"
15/07/2003 : "Well I know in times of trouble... mothermarycomestome"
22/07/2003 : "I will never ever let you go, oh Nikita I love you so"
23/07/2003 : "You tell me that you'll come on over then you say FRANK!"
"Please don't please da da dada da da"
24/07/2003 : "You know that I need your tender.... touch"
"I'll give her to you one more time..." (makes farting trumpet noise)
"You're lonely like a hurricane"
"Then you say you don't"
"Galveston oh Galveston"
25/07/2003 : "The way you smile tears me apart... doesn't matter what you say"
"I'm gonna love you girl any old way"
"I don't care what they say about yooou"
"Foulll! Bobby Charlton!"
30/07/2003 : "You got a long long way to go... ah-ha"
"Yes you will pay a price but look how much it changed"
"I can do anything, I am STRONG!"
"I am strong, I am invincible"
01/08/2003 : "Doesn't matter what they say, gonna love you child any old way"
04/08/2003 : "Still crazy after all these years"
"Deee it be nice to hmmm hmmm hmmmm"
05/08/2003 : "Lalalalala it's not the way you smile that.... tears me apart"
"I'll have a little band of gold... that you are mine"
02/09/2003 : "You get a little weary when the sun goes down"
09/09/2003 : "There's a truth in your eyes saying how are you young lady?"
"Say you'll never leave me"
10/09/2003 : "I had the time of my life, and I never felt this way before"
11/09/2003 : "Love is the right thing to DOOOOO! right..."
15/09/2003 : "I'm beginning to see the light"
18/09/2003 : "Start off the day with pie and scar father jones" (?!?)
19/09/2003 : "I don't know why"
23/09/2003 : "Why d'you pass me by-hy"
24/09/2003 : "I'm so happy I almost died"
25/09/2003 : "Stop look and listen, dat-ta-da"
26/09/2003 : "I got my self a da-waag oh woah woah woah"
08/10/2003 : "Little darling... Little darling... ... ... Little darling"
"Little darling"
"Little darling"
"Little darling... It's been a long long"
"Little darling"
10/10/2003 : "Your mod soul... The day the muuuuuuuuuuuuuuusic died"
"The day the music died... Do you believe in god above"
13/10/2003 : "HIYA! Baby I know..."
"Oh how can I"
"and I'll cry if I want to. Cry if I want to. You would cry too if it hap-"
"dedididuedidue" Followed by weird snort noise - what the hell was that??
16/10/2003 : "It's a beautiful day"
"It's not the way you smile that tears me apart"
"What can I do"
"I don't care what they say about you... Cheep... tra la-la la-la
they say you've never ever been true"
17/10/2003 : "I'm sendin' out an SOS"
20/10/2003 : "Pick up the phone"
22/10/2003 : "Happy end of the day. Yes I'm certain that it happens all the ti-i-iime"
24/10/2003 : "Talking 'bout my girl. (Spoken) I got sunshine on a cloudy day"
"I know you'll say"
"In the month of may"
"I've got so much love... hea hea hea hea hea"
31/10/2003 : "It's another lonely daaay"
"I don't care what you say about tomorrow"
03/11/2003 : "Lean on me when I'm not strong, de la la la"
05/11/2003 : "My darkest hour, baby I want you"
"I just can't live without it"
"You're the guiding light and suh-duh-duh my darkest hour"
"I just can't-ah live without... You love-uh and affection"
07/11/2003 : "de-de-da-da-da-da Move ooooooon up"
14/11/2003 : "Back in the USSR, I know how lucky we are"
17/11/2003 : "It's very superstitious, the writing's on the wall"
18/11/2003 : "At the end of the line"
26/11/2003 : "Who's gonna take you home"
27/11/2003 : "I win again"
"'Cos I need you the whole time, yeah!"
28/11/2003 : "Welcome to my world"
02/12/2003 : "I'm gonna make believe it came from you"
"I'm gonna sit right down"
"If a picture paints a thouuuuu-sand words"
"Then why can't I paint you"
"I remember yoooooou"
04/12/2003 : "And the laugh's on you"
"Saga 106.6 fm"
05/12/2003 : "I should have to-ooold you myself"
(Spoken)"Don't you know? That I heard it through the grapevine"
"It takes me by surpriiiiise what you say"
"I took you by surprise"
"Just about to loooose my mind, honey honey"
08/12/2003 : "Time on my hands do do do do do-do"
12/12/2003 : "I'll give it to you one more time"
16/12/2003 : "Lookin' swell"
17/12/2003 : "This gun's for hire, do-do do do do do"
"This is mah song"
"I wonder ... ... I wonder ... ... I wonder"
23/12/2003 : "I'm crazy right now"
24/12/2003 : "I remember all my liiiiife, dal-al-al-al daaaaa daaaa daaaaaa"
"I remember, how you doing Alan?"
"Oh Mandy you came and you-"
05/01/2004 : "I can tell you're gonna cry, is it over me"
"By the look in your eyes, I can tell you're gonna cry"
"Cos I'm the kind of guy who's always on the roo-aaaa-oooo-ddd"
"Wherever I lay my HAT"
06/01/2004 : "RIGHT! Baaaa-aaaayyy-beee!"
09/01/2004 : "Tie a yellow ribbon round the old oak tree, it's been three long years"
12/01/2004 : "In New Yooooork City... Yap"
13/01/2004 : "You took me my surpiiiisee I might say, when I found out"
(spoken)"I bet you're wondering how I knew"
16/01/2004 : "When I've got that feeling"
"There'll be no while flag upon"
"There will be no while flag upon this ship"
"Tell me tell me lies"
"Tell me tell me lies tell me sweet little lies, tell me lies"
19/01/2004 : "I bet you wondered how I knew"
21/01/2004 : "I'm talkin' 'bout my baby"
"I'm not talkin' 'bout my baby"
22/01/2004 : "Gotta get a WITNESS! Especially you girl"
26/01/2004 : "I'm TOO busy thinkin' 'bout my baby"
29/01/2004 : "Aye poy poy riiiaaagh for a while"
"Do you believe in this rock and roll"
"I was a lonely teenage bronkin' buck with pink carnation and a pick-up truck"
"Do you believe in god above"
"The good old boys are drinking whisky and rye"
30/01/2004 : "The day the music died"
02/02/2004 : "Love hurts"
"When I saw you"
"Cry-ay-ay-ay-ing over you"
"It was alright... For a while"
03/02/2004 : "The day the music died"
"Why why miss american"
04/02/2004 : "Love hurts, love dies"
"And even so it takes a..."
05/02/2004 : "It's a hard day"
06/02/2004 : "You're unbelievable!"
10/02/2004 : "Out of my head"
"Here comes the sun I say"
11/02/2004 : "LATIN!"
12/02/2004 : "I'm coming out of the kitchen, rawwr grrr ggrrr rawwr urrr rawwr"
"No I need a place
20/02/2004 : "You gotta take my breath away"
24/02/2004 : "About your plans to make me blue"
"I'll bet you wondered how I knew... Nop shnop nop"
25/02/2004 : "Give me just a little more time and our love will surely grow"
26/02/2004 : "On broadway!"
"The neon lights... On broadway"
He's clapping really loudly whilst singing "On Broaaaaadway!"
"In the air on broadway... aaaaaooooohhhh BUGGER!"
27/02/2004 : "There's a girl I know lala lala dadada"
03/03/2004 : "Holding back the years"
"Sooner or later"
"The revoluuuution's here"
05/03/2004 : "A kiss... Is still a kiss"
08/03/2004 : "This old heart a' mine"
"A hundred times I'll take it out"
"A hundred times I'll take you back"
10/03/2004 : "Diamonds are a girl's best friend"
12/03/2004 : "Loving you is easy 'cos it's beautiful"
15/03/2004 : "Loving you... is easy"
16/03/2004 : "I'm gonna wait 'til the midnight hour"
19/03/2004 : "Bet you're wondering how I knew, about your plans to make me blue"
26/03/2004 : "Here I am stuck in the middle with you"
"I don't know where it is at night"
"Cos it means that much to me, you took me by surprise I must say"
"I bet you wondered how I knew"
"I'm just about to loooose my mind"
"I bet you wondering how I knew 'bout your plans"
30/03/2004 : "Bringing on baaack the good times"
"I wanna spend some time"
"Want somebody who will spend some time"
31/03/2004 : "I'm gonna wait until the midnight hour"
"If a man could be places at one time I'd be with you, woah woah dooo"
07/04/2004 : "Do I love you? Yes I do"
"You took me by surprise I must say"
08/04/2004 : "Night and day... Think it's all over"
"Every night and day"
"I think we're alone now... Ah lehh le lehhh do la bah"
"There'll be night and day"
13/04/2004 : "I think we're alone now"
"Every night and day" CLAP CLAP
"Remind me baby of you"
"On the dancefloor " CLICK "Remind me baby of you"
15/04/2004 : "I took you by surprise I must say"
16/04/2004 : "I die each time... I hear this song... Here he comes"
"That's for sure"
"The only trouble is"
"I can make you mine I can..."
"The only trouble is, gee whiz, I'm dreaming my life away"
"Any time night and day, the only trouble is gee whiz"
"I can taste you lips of white, and (sic) time night and day"
19/04/2004 : "Anyone who ever hurt me"
"I'll never fall from the sky, right into your arms"
"I hope you comprehend"
20/04/2004 : "I'm so busy talkin bout my baby"
"Aint got time for something else"
21/04/2004 : "There's a girl I know"
28/04/2004 : "You took me by surprise"
29/04/2004 : "It don't impre-eh-es me"
"That don't impress me much"
"You don't impress me much"
"Talking 'bout my baby, hmmm mnnn mnnn hm hmm hm hm"
"Where the river...."
30/04/2004 : "The tracks of my tears"
"Be so nice to come home to"
06/05/2004 : "Going out for another drink"
"It's a whiter shade of paaale"
"You're simply the best, neh neh neh"
"Simply the best"
"Tell me that you're gonna love me baby, then you say you won't"
"You say you donnnnnnt"
"I love you like a hurricane"
07/05/2004 : "There you were"
"Too busy thinkin' bout my bay-beh-heh"
"Too busy thinkin' about my baby"
"Where the river ends"
11/05/2004 : "Foo once in my life"
12/05/2004 : "I don't know why"
"Too busy thinking bout my baby, I ain't got time for uuuuooooppp"
13/05/2004 : "Ah de doh da, because I'm jive talking"
14/05/2004 : "R.E.S.P.E.C.T."
"R.E.S.P.T."
"Just a little bit"
17/05/2004 : "There'll be no wan"
"There'll be no white flag"
18/05/2004 : "Hello, is it me you're looking for"
"I can see it in your eyes, but I haven't got a clue"
19/05/2004 : "Where I right or wrong" CLAP
"I'll be down on my knees"
"If I were a tower of strength"
27/05/2004 : "I want to break free"
"Love is nature's way of giving UUUAAH reason"
"Love is a many splendoured thing"
"It's the april rose that only grows in the early spring"
28/05/2004 : "In the land of the"
"In the land of the"
"In the land of the" -- I don't think he knows the rest
"I really know"
"I really know" -- he's not doing well with lyrics today
03/06/2004 : "Won't you come home baby... Please come home... You pay the rent"
"And I'm gone pay the rent"
04/06/2004 : "Your candle burned out lo"
"Goodbye Norma Jean"
"Goodbye Norma Jean, we're on the 22nd floor"
"When love comes to town gonna"
07/06/2004 : "Sunshine on a rainy day... yeah"
09/06/2004 : "I need someone"
"I need someone to love. do dodo do do"
10/06/2004 : "It's just an-o manic monday"
"This gun's for hire... do do do do do"
11/06/2004 : "Baby I shouldn't love you"
14/06/2004 : "Two of us guys you know I love you more.... Huhum"
"Took me by surprise.... I must say"
"I bet you're wondering how I knew"
15/06/2004 : "I love you and I love you more"
16/06/2004 : "You took me by surprise I must say"
"I bet you wondered how I knew"
21/06/2004 : "The wedding bell"
23/06/2004 : "It's twelve o'clock in the morning"
24/06/2004 : "Here I am! Signed, sealed... delivered"
"My babe wrote me a letter"
"That's the way it is"
"That's the way it is.... (Spoken, in bad american accent) Bruce Hornsby!"
25/06/2004 : "You make me blue"
"Bet you wondered how I knew, about your plans to make me blue
with some other guy you know before"
"I welcome the selter of someone's arms"
28/06/2004 : "Lay lady lay, lay across my"
"Come come come into my life"

I know you might think it's sad of me to have written all this down, but it's the only way I can think of to stop myself PUNCHING HIM IN THE EFFING GOB.

Steve.n. (sjkirk), Monday, 28 June 2004 14:34 (nineteen years ago) link

wow, bravo!

teeny (teeny), Monday, 28 June 2004 15:21 (nineteen years ago) link

genius

ambrose (ambrose), Monday, 28 June 2004 16:30 (nineteen years ago) link

I hope this is all from memory.

Gear! (Gear!), Monday, 28 June 2004 16:40 (nineteen years ago) link

When he's not singing, he walks around muttering "yep, yep, yep" to himself and making strange noises with his throat. My favourite is the "That's where I'm gonna go when I die CARDIO-VASCULAR!" one though.

Steve.n. (sjkirk), Monday, 28 June 2004 19:02 (nineteen years ago) link

There's a guy in my office, who is obsessed by cars and anything to do with cars, I do not share this obsession yet he considers it perfectly valid to go on and on about cars to me at any given time. However if there is a cricket match on and a fellow cricket fan co-worker and I are having a conversation about it he will interject in a loud voice from the other side of the room about how boring cricket is, he also a tennis fan and feels it urgent to go on about the tennis.

Jarlr'mai (jarlrmai), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 09:47 (nineteen years ago) link

Crazy lady from above, yesterday: "Can you look something up for me on your internet? Yours is better than mine, I can't find anything on it. I didn't know the right address, so I just typed in some of the company name, but it didn't come up with anything."

Liz :x (Liz :x), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 10:21 (nineteen years ago) link

Alas I bitched not realizing that she was just around the corner able to hear everything. :-(

jesus nathalie (nathalie), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 10:25 (nineteen years ago) link

Oh dear.

Liz :x (Liz :x), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 10:26 (nineteen years ago) link

where is the thread where ally vented about her lunatic workmates? i loved that thread, but can never find it through 'search'...

stevie (stevie), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 10:39 (nineteen years ago) link

GET A PROPER HAIRCUT YOU INDIE FUCK AND EAT A PROPER MEAL YOU ARE MADE OF PIPE CLEANERS AND WADDED UP TISSUES OH AND DO SOME WORK!!!!

benito mussolinington (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 10:50 (nineteen years ago) link

haha stevie I actually read that whole thing again when I searched for this thread--do a search for 'workers' and you'll find it. It's just as brilliant as you remember.

teeny (teeny), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 10:52 (nineteen years ago) link

thanks teeny!

stevie (stevie), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 11:09 (nineteen years ago) link

I suspect it's all going to kick off in my office this afternoon. We have a meeting to discuss 'staffing issues' which is likely to be hijacked by people wishing to discuss Pamela's contract not being renewed. These people think the director has a personal vendetta against Pamela. Pamela's contract is actually not being renewed because she is consistently late, regularly (at least once a month) off 'sick' and spends large portions of the day making personal phone calls in a loud whisper, presumably thinking that whispering means we won't notice her, whereas it actually means we notice her more.

I have been stuffing myself with flumps and refresher bars to power up before the meeting. I will probably keep quiet and squirm through it.

Madchen (Madchen), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 11:16 (nineteen years ago) link

Cor blimey I would not remain in any meeting if people started discussing just one person's contract. Boring AND bad form. Good luck L!

Archel (Archel), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 11:18 (nineteen years ago) link

Not having any serious problems with co-workers here at the mo, except that evil boss is persisting with her blatantly discriminatory policy of not allowing any staff without children to take time off during July or August grrr. (Though actually I have sneaked in 4 days in July and she won't notice because my department may as well be invisible to her.)

Archel (Archel), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 11:22 (nineteen years ago) link

The least annoying thing about my current boss is the way he can't make a phone call without putting it on loudspeaker. Like he wants everyone else in the office to know how well he can conduct a conversation.

There's so much more but I think if I get started I'll never stop.

beanz (beanz), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 11:48 (nineteen years ago) link

whattaya gonna do, work?

teeny (teeny), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 12:46 (nineteen years ago) link

Said boss has just come back from lunch drunk. He's calling up his clients to tell them. He's also singing "i get a kick out of you" (the bit about I get no kick from champagne) but with the lyrics all mixed up and saying "good thing i can hold my drink" over and over.

beanz (beanz), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 14:12 (nineteen years ago) link

One of my co-workers always says over the intercom, "Paul, dial 348. Dial 348." I think that we've had touch-tone phones here since at least the early eighties, but I digress.

Pleasant Plains (Pleasant Plains), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 14:38 (nineteen years ago) link

It has all kicked off.

Madchen (Madchen), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 14:40 (nineteen years ago) link

This is the all new thread about Ally's Stupid Coworkers.

luna (luna.c), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 15:10 (nineteen years ago) link

one month passes...
New zero tolerance policy on:
1) coworkers who open every unknown email and attachment they recieve, then wonder why they have a virus
2) coworkers who announce EVERY item of spam they receive, each time acting like they are the only person in the world to be harassed in this way
3) coworkers who skulk away from the photocopier when it jams instead of reporting it

Archel (Archel), Friday, 6 August 2004 09:44 (nineteen years ago) link

Will you be stapling copies of this policy to the foreheads of offenders? I certainly hope so. Particularly photocopier skulkers.

Liz :x (Liz :x), Friday, 6 August 2004 10:09 (nineteen years ago) link

Grr, OTM. So many people seem to think photocopier/printer unjamming is somehow akin to bomb-disposal in terms of complexity and danger. Maybe it should be taught in school.

robster (robster), Friday, 6 August 2004 10:30 (nineteen years ago) link

him: 'what's the password?'
me: 'calypso'
him: 'doesn't work...'

spent the next 15 minutes checking .ssh/authorized_keys, hosts.allow, iptables config, mysql.user and mysql.db tables in minute detail and demonstrating that it works from my pc.

turns out that he doesn't know how to spell 'calypso'.

koogs (koogs), Friday, 6 August 2004 10:45 (nineteen years ago) link

Haha I forgot that on my way back from Cambridge (ie Monday of my week off) my boss phoned my mobile because she couldn't find something.

On Friday I had put this something in her office and said 'I've put the thing in your office'.

Later on Friday she moved the something back to my (reception) desk and said 'I'll put it there, then I'll be able to find it on Monday'.

Arrrrgh!

Archel (Archel), Friday, 6 August 2004 11:24 (nineteen years ago) link

Another part of my policy is NEVER to phone any staff member on their mobile when they are not supposed to be at work, unless they have SPECIFICALLY said I could. My boss texted our technician when he was in *Russia* to ask some dumb q.

Archel (Archel), Friday, 6 August 2004 11:36 (nineteen years ago) link

A conversation that took place fifteen minutes ago:

Me: "I can't make the changes on this one page because it's a PDF file. Can you email me the original you made the PDF from?"
Her: "I don't have it - maybe look on [name of laid-off web designer here]'s computer?"
Me: "Already did. Only the PDF version is there. I need the original so I can make the changes"
Her: "I don't know where it could be"
Me: "It's a pretty detailed form [it's a three-page application form with lots of stuff dense-packed in] and it would be a major pain to redo from scratch."
Her: "Well we didn't want anyone to make changes on it once it was done"

*head hits table*

And people ask why I'm leaving.

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Thursday, 12 August 2004 20:57 (nineteen years ago) link

i get kinda giddy when work people phone me when i'm away on holiday actually! it's like wow i'm so important they have to call me even when i'm in Hong Kong! wow!

ken c (ken c), Thursday, 12 August 2004 21:10 (nineteen years ago) link

This morning our volunteer girl phoned in sick - she is usually incredibly reliable, ridiculously conscientious, and extremely efficient. My boss's reaction on being told: [rolling eyes and tutting] 'well, was she here on Monday?' 'Yes'. 'Hmmm.' Jeez, give the girl a break, she doesn't HAVE to be here at all.

Archel (Archel), Friday, 13 August 2004 07:35 (nineteen years ago) link

STOP PUTTING ON THAT STUPID EASTERN EURPOEAN ACCENT, IT IS NEITHER FUNNY OR ALLURING, YOU MUPPET.

Porkpie (porkpie), Friday, 13 August 2004 07:51 (nineteen years ago) link

Totally right about calling people while they're away, Archel. Very sore point with me at the moment. The only time I want to be phoned is if the place has burned down and they need to tell me not to bother coming back for a while.

Madchen (Madchen), Friday, 13 August 2004 12:07 (nineteen years ago) link

A few minutes ago the three women in front of me:

B: "Did I tell how good a movie Scary Movie 3 was?"
D: "I know thats one of the best movies."
C: "I've never seen it, should I?"
B&D: "Absolutely!"
B: "I also love that Steve Martin movie Bringing Down the House. Queen Latifah is such a good actor."
ME: "Are you fucking serious?"
BD&C: "Yes, and besides you like all those WEIRDO movies like The Duke Tennenbaums."
ME : "Im going to smoke bye."

Velveteen Bingo (Chris V), Friday, 13 August 2004 12:12 (nineteen years ago) link

Velveteen, surely the trick is not to get involved in these conversations at all.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 13 August 2004 13:03 (nineteen years ago) link

Boss asks Airhead Temp Bloke to get 5 copies of a document
ATB goes to copier. He copies the document 5 separate times because he can't work out how to do multiple copies.
All of them are shite copies because the toner is low/done in the copier. He knew the first one was crap but decided to do the other 4 anyway because that's what he was told.
Boss tells ATB they are crap because the toner is low and tells him to get him another 5 copies so ATB copies the document again *on the same copier*!
Boss asks him how fucking stupid he is and tells him to do it again on a different copier. ATB goes to a different copier and copies one of the crap copies five times. Boss asks if he's taking the piss.

This is one of many incidents my then girlfriend used to tell me about. She hated his guts but I looked forward to finishing work and hearing about him.

He was a tight fisted lad as well, he used to go out with them for a pub lunch and not order anything. He would sit with a half pint (or a pint if someone else was buying) of lager then eat everyone's leftovers.

If someone bought a pile of cakes for everyone in the office he would take a bite out of all of the surplus ones in the fridge so that no-one else would eat them.

Onimo (GerryNemo), Friday, 13 August 2004 14:42 (nineteen years ago) link

Boss asks Airhead Temp Bloke to get 5 copies of a document
ATB goes to copier. He copies the document 5 separate times because he can't work out how to do multiple copies.
All of them are shite copies because the toner is low/done in the copier.

if he hadn't gone and copy the other 4 times it would actually have been clever of him (or at least he could pretend that it was) to copy it once first!!

ken c (ken c), Friday, 13 August 2004 14:48 (nineteen years ago) link

ok nice guy but my new co-worker CONSTANTLY files the cds in the wrong place, it's so so fucking annoying, especially when you actually see him just flinging one back into the right section but not filing it at all and you want to scream.

I'm not an obsessive tidier but there's nothing more annoying than not being able to find a cd when a customer asks for the listening copy of it.

Also since I'm simply his co-worker I don't know how to say it. I've been meaning to mention it to the boss but then I'm telling tales and as I said he is a nice guy.

Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 13 August 2004 14:51 (nineteen years ago) link

The two girls behind me are such a pair of dippy giggling idiots that I couldn't believe they were aged 23 and 24 as opposed to like 14. And they keep doing the worst impression of the 'ned' accent I have ever heard. And their smarmy friend comes over to talk to them while inserting his annoying bellow of a laugh at the end of every second sentence he says. And they open every unknown email and attachment they recieve, then wonder why they have a virus. And everyone in here thinks their Frames CDs make them fucking musical connoiseurs.

fcussen (Burger), Friday, 13 August 2004 15:31 (nineteen years ago) link

that sounds like hell on earth.

Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 13 August 2004 16:10 (nineteen years ago) link

A lot of the commercials we play on the radio station are obtained through company websites where they'll post an mp3 of their spot, and everyone can download it. One of my co-workers was accused of "stealing" a client's spot. Not in the RIAA/Napster sense, but in the sense that he downloaded the spot and now it's not on the website anymore.

!!!

Pleasant Plains (Pleasant Plains), Friday, 13 August 2004 16:21 (nineteen years ago) link

Coworker #1: What movies should I rent while my husbands away for 10 days?
Coworker #2: Oh my god, rent "The Truth About Cats & Dogs! It's like the BEST movie ever!!!
Coworker #1: OH, okay--sure, I'll write it down
Me: (dying inside) ... seriously, best movie ever?
Coworker #2: YES IT IS SO GOOD
Me: I thought it was kinda dumb.
Coworker #1: WELL YOU HAVE BAD MOVIE TASTE ANYWAY!! You didn't even like TITANIC!

Homosexual II (Homosexual II), Friday, 13 August 2004 16:33 (nineteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...
You know what I hate?

Co-workers who make it seem that their daily tasks are "incredibly difficult but dammit, they do it anyway, no problem at all, hey you gotta pay your dues", doing this only to impress the higher-ups.

i.e. this girl I work with who makes it seem like her daily chores of assembling footage notes and keeping in contact with the transcription company are tasks that will take her ALL FUCKING DAY, and she's very sure to be very nice and act "tired" but "hey, it's cool...", plus compensating for the fact that she doesn't do any fucking work by coming in a little earlier and staying a little later. And all she does is surf the net! Hey I surf the net too obviously but I also work constantly! damn.

Gear! (Gear!), Friday, 27 August 2004 20:38 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm glad I don't work with Gear :(

Markelby (Mark C), Friday, 27 August 2004 21:14 (nineteen years ago) link

My co-workers are my stupid and annoying than yours.

adam. (nordicskilla), Friday, 27 August 2004 21:23 (nineteen years ago) link

more

adam. (nordicskilla), Friday, 27 August 2004 21:23 (nineteen years ago) link

I should amend the above statement, Markelby, to say that she also implies other people who don't make a lot of noise about the fact that they do work hard are in fact not doing their job and are lazy, which I think is a successful endeavor on her part.

Gear! (Gear!), Friday, 27 August 2004 23:09 (nineteen years ago) link

He's not here anymore, but a former co-worker has no idea how badly I wanted to slap him due to his endless David Icke-style blathering about "reptilians" and "media bias" and "That's what they WANT you to believe".

One day I screamed at him that all he wanted was a) more money, b) a job in his field of study, and c) to sleep with the girl he'd been flirting with all that fall.

That shut up him for a day or two, but no more.

Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Saturday, 28 August 2004 19:38 (nineteen years ago) link

My coworkers decided to have a big potluck lunch today but didn't tell me about it or invite me to participate. Am I being totally irrational for having hurt feelings about this?

Leon Czolgosz (Nicole), Monday, 30 August 2004 16:23 (nineteen years ago) link

Plus, I am now convinced that my new boss hate me.

Leon Czolgosz (Nicole), Monday, 30 August 2004 18:32 (nineteen years ago) link

I would be irritated about this, yes.

VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 30 August 2004 18:36 (nineteen years ago) link

Plus, I am now convinced that my new boss hate me.

She hates me. Or maybe I should stick with "She hate me" but that movie sounds rub.

Leon Czolgosz (Nicole), Monday, 30 August 2004 18:37 (nineteen years ago) link

I'll kick her ass, Nicole.

luna (luna.c), Monday, 30 August 2004 18:52 (nineteen years ago) link

Thanks Luna, I'll keep that in mind...

Leon Czolgosz (Nicole), Monday, 30 August 2004 18:58 (nineteen years ago) link

If I was a postal worker I would be going postal just about now.

adam. (nordicskilla), Monday, 30 August 2004 19:50 (nineteen years ago) link

what do you do¿

dyson (dyson), Monday, 30 August 2004 19:51 (nineteen years ago) link

He is a postal PLAYA.

VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 30 August 2004 19:52 (nineteen years ago) link

Try my hardest to keep my job. While, yeah, posting on ILX more than the average person should.

xpost

adam. (nordicskilla), Monday, 30 August 2004 19:53 (nineteen years ago) link

I met an ILXer the other day who said to me "surely you can't have a job?". but yes! I do!

adam. (nordicskilla), Monday, 30 August 2004 19:54 (nineteen years ago) link

ISN'T IT CRAZY?

adam. (nordicskilla), Monday, 30 August 2004 19:54 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm tired of bitching, I just want everyone to go to hell.

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Monday, 30 August 2004 19:59 (nineteen years ago) link

The folks at my work used to ask around the office when they were ordering out to have food delivered here. Then the VP scolded them for disrupting work. HA HA! So now, people just keep feeling left out when others order food without them.

Sarah McLusky (coco), Monday, 30 August 2004 19:59 (nineteen years ago) link

Apparently working hard at my office requires shouting, "I'm drownding over here!" every 5 minutes and running around the office like a chicken with its head cut off, but not actually doing any work.

Homosexual II (Homosexual II), Monday, 30 August 2004 20:11 (nineteen years ago) link

I missed this earlier -- personally I think Nicole is right to feel aggreived, while at this point I'm considering building a nuke for Elvis T to use. The least I could do.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 30 August 2004 20:31 (nineteen years ago) link

I can't help but feel that I'm becoming the target of the co-worker hate due to the fact I've done very little work coz I'm ADDICTED TO THIS THREAD DAMMIT

the impossible shortest special path! (the impossible shortest specia), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 12:33 (nineteen years ago) link

Oh, I'd forgotten this one.

Our boss actually said at the end of a staff meeting that "If you're checking your personal web mail, or reading forums, or webchatting while you're here... then you're stealing from me."

We all had a good laugh after he left, and "stealing from (boss's name goes here)" has became a code phrase for "illicit" web activity.

Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 17:01 (nineteen years ago) link

one month passes...
I got up to get some papers off the printer. I stopped dead in my tracks because I saw a resume on there. The last name was the same as one of my coworkers, but the first wasn't and it had a junior afterwards and this is a female coworker. Also, she has a very common last name. So I think maybe my company is hiring out a position without telling us, which they've done several times before.

So then I pick it up to look at the cover sheet to see if it says what the position is.

So then the coworker comes over (it was hers after all) grabs it up and says, "Don't look at anything that doesn't have anything to do with you!" I go over to her desk and say, "I'm sorry. I thought maybe they were going to hire someone else without letting us know."

Then next time I go to get something off the printer, she's standing there. She flips through and takes her things out. Then she gets to an order I printed out and drops it immediately back down on the printer saying, "I don't read things that don't concern me!" I thought she might be joking, so I started to laugh, but then she huffed and stormed back to her desk.

Sarah McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 18:14 (nineteen years ago) link

nuts

Tous Les Garcons S'Appellent Little Lord Travolta (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 18:45 (nineteen years ago) link

Hmmm.

n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 19:03 (nineteen years ago) link

There's this guy at work that I've stopped talking to, at least to the extent that I can and still get work done. He was just being too suggestive and touching me as much as possible (ie: sneaking up and putting his hand on the small of my back - ick!), and it creeped me out. Might I mention he has three daughters, all older than I am.

Anyway, I was just alone in the kitchen eating my lunch and reading. He came in and was quiet for like a minute. Then he interrupted me and was like, "Sarah, we haven't been having our talks any more." Whatever that means.

He got around to talking about my band. He asked something to the effect of, "Are you trying to make it big?" Before I could say anything in response, he shook his head and say, "Oh, no, I guess not, much too late for that. Now you have to get married and start having kids. Plus, you have this job now."

Sarah McLusky (coco), Thursday, 14 October 2004 18:22 (nineteen years ago) link

SARAH YOU NEED A NEW JOB SHOCKA!!!

n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 14 October 2004 18:23 (nineteen years ago) link

YOU NEED TO MAKE IT BIG - STAT!

Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 14 October 2004 18:28 (nineteen years ago) link

why does every office have the innappropiate touchy-feely person? i know some people like casual physical contact, but keey-rist can it go overboard.

Sir Kingfish Beavis D'Azzmonch (Kingfish), Thursday, 14 October 2004 18:31 (nineteen years ago) link

I feel I've moved up in the world because my manager at my first job slapped my ass all the time, whistled, and called everyone baby. That's food service for you though.

Sarah McLusky (coco), Thursday, 14 October 2004 18:35 (nineteen years ago) link

(long rant)

One of our offices is having Printer Problems. One of their printers died yesterday, and we've been trying to decide what to buy them to replacement. Anyway, this morning me and another IT staffer are in their office, and the office supervisor says:

"If you don't get that printer fixed by tomorrow, you've got a big problem. We've got to print our weekly reports tomorrow, and that's the only printer where we can get it to line up with the form on the paper."

We explain that, as we're going to have to buy her a new printer - which we told her yesterday, there's no way it will be replaced by the morning.

"Well, it's your problem. You're welcome to try lining up the paper on the other printer, but I don't think you'll be able to."

So, we retire to the IT office. "Total bullshit" says our manager. The co-worker offers to donate his printer to the cause of inter-office harmony, and I swap them over. I go to her and ask what one of these reports looks like, exactly, and which computer they want to print it from. I do a test run; it lines up exactly, first time; so I explain that the printer that's now sitting on the desk across the room is a different one (she hadn't noticed me lugging the old one out and this one in) and that it will therefore have a different name on-screen. And then, I go around the office setting everyone's computers up to use the new printer.

Ten minutes later, I'm printing a test page from one of the other computers, and she gets up to go over and see what it is.

"Are you trying to print something?"

"Yes, but it doesn't seem to be working."

"Which printer are you trying to print to"

"Oh, I don't know," she says, getting a bit louder. "Printer X, Printer Y, you've moved them all around, you keep saying that what we've been calling Printer X for years we should actually be calling something else! It won't print! Look, I'm trying to print an email and it takes THIRTY SECONDS to send it to the printer! This is a busy office! I don't have time to wait that long each time I have to print an email"

"Um, couldn't you do something else whilst you're waiting for it to print"

"Like what, exactly?"

"Well, I don't know - I don't know what work you have to do whenever"

"Can't you just fix it? Why can't you get it to print straight away"

"Um ... well, I could try altering one of the settings. I can't promise to make it faster, though."

"Look, I've had it up to here with your ARROGANCE. It's A FUCKING PRINTER, NOT ROCKET SCIENCE. YOU'RE IN I.T., YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO GET IT WORKING. You're just TOO ARROGANT ALL THE TIME." And she picked up her packet of fags and stormed off to the smoking room. Her staff - there are normally four or five other people in the same office - sat in deathly silence.

Our manager had, I knew, already complained to hers about her telling us that we "had a big problem" earlier. The next time I popped into his office, coincidentally, both of them were having a chat; so I casually mentioned that she'd "got a bit shouty" with me, and told them what she said. Mwahahaha.

(this office supervisor often phones me up complaning that the fax server isn't working because a fax she sent ten minutes ago hasn't been sent yet. The answer is almost always "the other end isn't answering the phone", which isn't exactly something I can help with - although she does often say "isn't there anything you can do about it?")

caitlin (caitlin), Thursday, 28 October 2004 11:22 (nineteen years ago) link

I currently work in a small windowless office answering phones next to a large flatulent women who never stops eating. It's not even 8am yet and she's already gone through the first of her two sleeves of saltines, which will undoubtedly be followed by one or two bags of mini cookies (who knew how gassy those things could be?). And then she'll go to lunch. This wouldn't be so terrible if our job wasn't talking on the phone which is difficult to do with a mouth full of tiny delicious cookies.

During those rare moments when she's not eating, she's barely intelligible and mumbling on and on, never really finishing a sentence.

Oh, and today she's wearing her stinky pants.

Charlie Rose (Charlie Rose), Thursday, 28 October 2004 11:41 (nineteen years ago) link

I've just been given a formal apology! Woohoo!

caitlin (caitlin), Thursday, 28 October 2004 12:42 (nineteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...
You know what? I don't give a shit about Scott Peterson.

I was just informed of the verdict by someone who sounded like he was delivering me news of the Hindenberg crashing. Puh-lease.

But then again, at least I don't have to deal with Mimi Smartypants' co-workers:

Yesterday I was peeing in the office bathroom when someone else came in, went into a stall, and started doing her thing. I finished and was washing my hands when A Rude Noise erupted from the mystery person's stall. Immediately, the mystery person said, "Excuse me." I have several issues with this.

(a) If you can't make rude noises in the bathroom without making the customary verbal excuses, where can you make them?
(b) To be honest, I am not sure I ever want to hear "excuse me" or a sheepish ownership claim from makers of rude noises, even when we are face-to-face, even when it is obvious what has happened. Rude noises are embarrassing enough---must we dwell on the topic?
(c) Most horrifying of all: when the rude noise occurred, I had no idea who was in the stall, since I had not seen her come in. But when she said, "Excuse me?" I KNEW. AND I DID NOT WANT TO KNOW.


Ewww.

Pleasant Plains (Pleasant Plains), Friday, 12 November 2004 21:57 (nineteen years ago) link

three months pass...
Dear T1m, thanks for your moody demeanour, your talking down to me, your general lack of social graces, but most of all your way of delivering apparently noteworthy information to me regarding our working relationship a week after the fact like I should already know, ignoring facts YOU should know about my role (specifically, it's very short tenure) and for being a sad, sad imitation of Gareth Keenan in Keith's body (and mind).

Logged out, has letters 'i' and 'a' in name, Thursday, 10 March 2005 11:40 (nineteen years ago) link

my co-worker always tells me how he is 'right with the lord'. ugh.

ai lien (kold_krush), Thursday, 10 March 2005 14:38 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm going to punch that guy if he calls me "Big Daddy" or "Catfish" one more time.

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Thursday, 10 March 2005 17:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Astonishingly, I am not finding any of my coworkers either stupid or annoying at the moment. Wuv!

Archel (Archel), Thursday, 10 March 2005 17:28 (nineteen years ago) link

Ha ha ha! All afternoon my coworkers have been abusing the office mailing list to send smutty jokes about our cut off watermain jokes, grrrrrrrr... however, all this has been forgiven now that the Head Honcho has decided to quench our parched throats by OPENING THE OFFICE BAR!!!

Woo-hoo! Free booze for all! Do they really think we'll gte any work done now? My data analysis is getting abit shoddy after too much red wine. I've decided to name my querystring MONEY so I can be happy when my database is on it. Heh.

Masonic Cathedral (kate), Thursday, 10 March 2005 17:33 (nineteen years ago) link

Your new job sounds kind of great, Kate :)

Archel (Archel), Thursday, 10 March 2005 17:34 (nineteen years ago) link

My new job is actually great. I mean, we have an Office Bar!!!

I heart ad agencies!

OK, I have to work like a bloody dog, and I'm probably going to be here until at least 6, but, hey... FREE BOOZE!

Masonic Cathedral (kate), Thursday, 10 March 2005 17:35 (nineteen years ago) link

I want to work where Kate works. Booze at work? FREE booze at work? That would make my work a whole lot more bearable.

(xpost)

ailsa (ailsa), Thursday, 10 March 2005 17:36 (nineteen years ago) link

I get free booze at work sometimes, I mean we have to have an excuse but it can be pretty thin... we have a fridge full of wine and nibbles just in case.

Archel (Archel), Thursday, 10 March 2005 17:37 (nineteen years ago) link

We used to get the odd bottle of wine on a Friday, but the last time we had an excuse to do this, my colleague just got to go to the pub on company expenses instead whilst I stayed in DOING HIS JOB THAT HE WASN'T DOING BECAUSE HE WAS IN THE PUB. Grrrr.

ailsa (ailsa), Thursday, 10 March 2005 17:39 (nineteen years ago) link

At the last Ad Agency where I worked, the first day, the company's owner took out me and the former Sys Admin and we drank two bottles of wine between the three of us. There was office drinks all the time, not counting FAPs and Leaving Doos.

The first day here, they gave me a spreadsheet with 270 photos of rubbish bands on it and said that it was the office challenge to see how many I could name. I got 190, which was the second hightest in the office (after the boss of course).

I had *forgotten* all the good things about working in Advertising.

Masonic Cathedral (kate), Thursday, 10 March 2005 17:42 (nineteen years ago) link

Show me the money booze!

Archel (Archel), Thursday, 10 March 2005 17:44 (nineteen years ago) link

Man. What I'd give to work at a real agency again.

Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 10 March 2005 17:49 (nineteen years ago) link

One of mine was talking about her clowning group going to a prison during lunch today, and then switched to clown "strip-tease." I just kept thinking "eyes down, read the paper, eyes down."

jocelyn (Jocelyn), Thursday, 10 March 2005 17:52 (nineteen years ago) link

Clowning group?

Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 10 March 2005 18:19 (nineteen years ago) link

Phone guy has apparently decided that the problem was him being on his CELL phone - now he's on the work line instead. Genius!

Asshole.

luna (luna.c), Thursday, 10 March 2005 18:20 (nineteen years ago) link

Fuckface

Je4nne ƒury (Jeanne Fury), Thursday, 10 March 2005 18:21 (nineteen years ago) link

Last week, someone decided to collect all the Vietnamese names from the company directory (we're a huge company, 7000 in Montreal alone) and send an email urging us to vote for him in the Asian Idol contest. I really don't have a problem with that: click and delete. What I *do* have a problem with is when all these people decide to click "Reply All" and tell Asian Idol Guy that they do not wish to receive any more of his mail. THEN, more idiots click "Reply All" to tell us to use "Reply" instead. This went on for two days straight.

alex in montreal, Thursday, 10 March 2005 21:36 (nineteen years ago) link

>FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, YOU MORANS!!
>>If you don't like it, just hit the DELETE BUTTON.
>>>Don't look at me. I didn't write any of this.
>>>>I wanted to TELL ALL OF YOU TO STOP. THAT'S WHY.
>>>>>Oh, but you can?
>>>>>>Please stop doing this. ALl of you.
>>>>>>>You replied all to us all again to say that you're a hypocrite?
>>>>>>>>I mean, shit. Sorry. Call me a hypocrite!
>>>>>>>>And just by writing that, you've rplied to us all again.
>>>>>>>>>I know that. I was trying to tell this guy to not e-mail me this.
>>>>>>>>>>YOu don't have to hit reply-all to unsubscribe

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Thursday, 10 March 2005 21:51 (nineteen years ago) link

Haha yeah I've seen exchanges like that at my last job before.

What I never got too, is in Outlook, hitting reply is easier than reply-all, IIRC. I couldn't understand why someone would mess it up.

It was especially excruciating when the orig callout was from a teamleader asking for some kind of personal feed back from each of us and some dork would reply-all with some whine we weren't meant to see... haaha, sucker.

Trayce (trayce), Thursday, 10 March 2005 22:25 (nineteen years ago) link

God reading all this, I seriously dont want any kind of 9 to 5 job again. I want to work from home or something. If only.

Trayce (trayce), Thursday, 10 March 2005 22:26 (nineteen years ago) link

C/D: The co-worker who announces "I have to go to the bathroom SO bad" whenever they have to relieve themselves

Je4nne ƒury (Jeanne Fury), Thursday, 10 March 2005 22:35 (nineteen years ago) link

I work with this woman. She is in her, I would say, mid-50's. She's pretty annoying. She sits at her desk and talks to herself, screeches things for no reason and then laughs like she made a joke, makes desperate chit-chat, basically just tries incredibly hard and desperately to ingratiate herself but apparently is half insane so it doesn't work. Until last week I basically just thought of her as being irritating but maybe someone who was just lacking some social skills. But last week the office manager came to me to say that our boss had complained about me playing on the internet at work, and about me reading the paper at my desk. Now I'm not an idiot. Of course I don't do EITHER of those things when my boss is around. Which means someone else went to the boss and said I was doing those things. And because the crazy woman is the only one who ever comes into my office in the morning when I'm looking at the paper (which takes like 10 minutes), it means it was her. I hate people who try to act like they're your friends but will bitch you out if it will make them look good.

n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 11 March 2005 01:34 (nineteen years ago) link

And I know I'm an ass for reading the paper at my desk, but everyone else spends that time talking about whatever episode of Lost or House or whatever they watched last night.

n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 11 March 2005 01:42 (nineteen years ago) link

And I know I'm an ass for reading the paper at my desk

you're not anything of the sort. i would spit in the face of anyone who objected to me reading the paper at my desk.

shine headlights on me (electricsound), Friday, 11 March 2005 02:02 (nineteen years ago) link

Yeah what Jim said. Especially if a) you really do only do it for 10 mins first thing in the morning and b) everyone else is in the tea room at that hour for 20 minutes gabbing, which usually seemed to be the case where I worked.

Trayce (trayce), Friday, 11 March 2005 02:03 (nineteen years ago) link

As George Carlin once said "The first 20 minutes belong to ME!"

nickn (nickn), Friday, 11 March 2005 08:00 (nineteen years ago) link

my boss reads freaky trigger and ilx over my shoulder and sez stuff like: "how do you know all the interesting sites?"

i like all my co-workers a lot: we have a good time

mark s (mark s), Friday, 11 March 2005 09:55 (nineteen years ago) link

There's this girl in here who only talks to you when SHE feels like it, looks pissed off if you interupt her while she's reading a book on her lunch break, she spends most of the day on ILX and doesn't go on works nights out. She looks forward to the day she gets pregnant so she can leave here and all she talks about is babies. She's off twice a year with the cold and never volunteers for overtime.

Rumpsy Pumpsy (Rumpie), Friday, 11 March 2005 10:10 (nineteen years ago) link

That bitch.

Dan I. (Dan I.), Friday, 11 March 2005 10:39 (nineteen years ago) link

Yesterday I had to pitch an idea to v.senior management. It involved a marketing plan and some pretty detailed financial analysis to back it up. I asked a (more senior than me) co-worker in whose interests it is that the plan is adopted to come into the meeting and back me up on some of the details of the plan. (Basically she has been hassling me to get the idea in front on them for weeks).We talked for 30 mins before we went in, we agreed who would say what, we agreed that she would stay out of the financials and concentrate on backing me up with evidence to show that the marketing was appropriate for both the sales team and the market.

We go in. I start on a fairly methodical, but OK, pitch. Two minutes in she contradicts me on whether the market is growing or declining - she says -30% decline over past 2 years, I say +2% growth. I KNOW I am right as I never go into these things without knowing the answer to this sort of basic question. I say, here's the data, look it shows a slight increase. She says, well your data must be wrong! This is urgent and key to get right as you would have fundamentally different plans for growing and declining markets. Management are not impressed. I manage to get off this point and onto the detail of the financials. She contradicts me again and sez - this isn't what we'd agreed, why don't you keep me up-to-date? IN FRONT OF THE SENIOR MANAGEMENT! SHE@S SUPPOSED TO BE HELPING ME! It goes from bad to worse.

We eventually get out. I have managed to save a moderate amount of dignity by agreeing to confirm the market data and re-model the data for a second go around next week. We get out of the room and she has a go at me for not keeping her up-to-date. I lose it TOTALLY. It's best not to into what I said, but it wasn't pleasant.

Dr. C (Dr. C), Friday, 11 March 2005 10:43 (nineteen years ago) link

Now another co-worker has told me 'she's mad at you after yesterday'!

Dr. C (Dr. C), Friday, 11 March 2005 11:55 (nineteen years ago) link

I guess I am a bit of a bitch. God I only come here to work. And look at ILX.

Rumpsy Pumpsy (Rumpie), Friday, 11 March 2005 12:25 (nineteen years ago) link

I remember the day I discovered Am I Hot Or Not. The owner was out of town and almost the entire office went through the site together for over an hour straight! Aside from the owner there was basically all the other higher-ups in the room yelling out what to rate people - it was loads of fun!

Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 11 March 2005 16:35 (nineteen years ago) link

AAARRRGGGHHHH!!!

OK, this is not a co-worker, but still someone at one of our vendors, upon whom I rely to do my job. I've been here a week. He has YET to send me a report which is totally correct and hasn't had to have me query him, or more often, have him resend it with new data.

This vendor is the one that supplies almost every single client! So I can't do ANY of my work on time, and it makes me look like an idiot.

I'm still waiting for him to get back to me on the last one - and only then am I going to get to go home. Grrrrrrrr. I hate him, want to punch him in the nose!

Masonic Cathedral (kate), Friday, 11 March 2005 17:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Dr. C that sounds like a nightmare!

I just came onto this thread merely to complain that there's a guy who keeps saying "soup to nuts" "soup to nuts" "I'm just here to HELP, know what I mean?" "soup to nuts" --

yr blood must still be boiling Dr. C. Is she insane? Doesn't she realize she's sabotaging herself with that kind of behavior?

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 11 March 2005 17:16 (nineteen years ago) link

SICK PEOPLE GO HOME, DO NOT MAKE ME SICK AS WELL

Sven Bastard (blueski), Friday, 11 March 2005 17:18 (nineteen years ago) link

OH GOD I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S WORSE, THE COUGHING OR THE SQUELCHING

Sven Bastard (blueski), Friday, 11 March 2005 17:24 (nineteen years ago) link

it's the SNNMMPNGGGHHHK NGH NGH NGH SNSSMMSMMPCK *swallow* all day long, is what it is

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 11 March 2005 17:49 (nineteen years ago) link

**yr blood must still be boiling Dr. C. Is she insane? Doesn't she realize she's sabotaging herself with that kind of behavior?**

My blood isn't boiling today, I tend to let these things go pretty quickly. It's only work - we live to fight another day. I spent today doing a fair bit of digging around to see what the damage was, and I think she is looking more of a fuckwit than me. And I happen to know that this loss of face matters a whole lot more to her than it does to me - she is very ambitious, highly political etc. I view it as just a job to be done to earn money. Mind you, I won't give her another chance to get me into that kind of shit again. She can do her own crashing and burning.

Dr. C (Dr. C), Friday, 11 March 2005 21:32 (nineteen years ago) link

He's back after being gone for a week and I have realized two things:

1 - I had no idea I was as irritated as I am by him until he wasn't here for a whole week; and

2 - the sounds he makes while eating are enough to make me want to shove a stapler through his temple.

luna (luna.c), Monday, 21 March 2005 18:10 (nineteen years ago) link

two months pass...
There is a man on the floor I work on who can’t work vertical blinds, he pulls the strings so they wiggle up and down a little then after a good few attempts, he sits down. It’s not just the fact that a grown man (who incidentally has not long to go before he becomes a qualified solicitor) can’t work a simple piece of furniture; it’s the fact that he has been doing this for more than a year without the blind actually going up or down. I can’t ignore it because I can hear the metallic crashes & automatically look up.

Am I being unfair on this guy, or is my rage just?

not-goodwin (not-goodwin), Thursday, 26 May 2005 14:29 (eighteen years ago) link

but vertical blinds aren't supposed to go up and down...

ken c (ken c), Thursday, 26 May 2005 14:36 (eighteen years ago) link

assuming you meant venetian blinds... maybe you should teach him how to use it, and he won't be annoying anymore :)

ken c (ken c), Thursday, 26 May 2005 14:37 (eighteen years ago) link

Oops! I meant to say horizontal ones but yeah, venetion they are. The thought of showing him has come into my head, but he thinks he’s something special so I rather see him make a fool out of himself, even though it’s making me bald through stress.

not-goodwin (not-goodwin), Friday, 27 May 2005 07:19 (eighteen years ago) link

There are a good few people here like that....I have a little internal laugh at their stupidity rather than let it annoy me, and reflect on the fact that a million years ago they'd have been a quick and tasty meal for a passing Sabretooth.

There is a born-again type who used to sit near me who, on occasion, leaps into a conversation, into which she hasn't been invited, where an opinion that doesn't agree with her particular brand of repressive Christian lunacy has been expressed and starts quoting wildly inappropriate passages from the Bible at the participants. This doesn't annoy me as much as the effort I force myself to make to restrain myself from being unbearably rude to her...

Stone Monkey (Stone Monkey), Friday, 27 May 2005 11:06 (eighteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...
I just went to the fridge to get my lunch and somebody has nicked my sandwich!

Mädchen (Madchen), Thursday, 16 June 2005 10:24 (eighteen years ago) link

Was it Tannenbaum Schmidt? I always knew he was shady.

Markelby (Mark C), Thursday, 16 June 2005 10:25 (eighteen years ago) link

Does Tannenbaum Schmidt have a penchant for cheese coleslaw?

Mädchen (Madchen), Thursday, 16 June 2005 10:32 (eighteen years ago) link

Stone Monkey, i know who you're talking about.

I’ve been quoted at also, it’s hard not to say “oh fuck off, it’s not even real”

not-goodwin (not-goodwin), Thursday, 16 June 2005 10:36 (eighteen years ago) link

Do lunch-stealers actually check what they are stealing before they steal it?

caitlin (caitlin), Thursday, 16 June 2005 10:37 (eighteen years ago) link

a woman I can’t stand & who pretends to know everything is sitting next to me for the day & keeps asking me what to do. She’s also one of those people who says "I’m just gonna type this, I’m just going to the copier" in her loud obnoxious voice, like I care!

Also she’s just said "I don’t mind staying til after six"

FFS!

not-goodwin (not-goodwin), Thursday, 16 June 2005 10:40 (eighteen years ago) link

Maybe they do it blindfold for fun surprises! (x-p)

Mädchen (Madchen), Thursday, 16 June 2005 10:41 (eighteen years ago) link

Pop quiz:

Say you're the manager of a bistro. Is getting drunk after work and telling your assistant manager to "fuck off, you think you're so fucking clever, just fuck off" IN FRONT OF STAFF

a) Just fine?
b) An astonishingly stupid thing to do?

Matt (Matt), Thursday, 16 June 2005 10:50 (eighteen years ago) link

Depends if said manager is more popular than said assistant or not. Who were you in this scenario?

Liz :x (Liz :x), Thursday, 16 June 2005 10:52 (eighteen years ago) link

The assistant

Matt (Matt), Friday, 17 June 2005 14:35 (eighteen years ago) link

We can assume you are utterly blameless, right?

Markelby (Mark C), Friday, 17 June 2005 14:50 (eighteen years ago) link

"oooooooooh...posting on the in-ter-net!!! Aren't you so FUCKING SMART. Eat shit, eat my shit!"

giboyeux (skowly), Friday, 17 June 2005 14:54 (eighteen years ago) link

Regardless of blame it's ridiculously stupid, incredibly unprofessional, extremely bad for morale, and hopefully he will realise this when sober and make amends to all staff.

Vicky (Vicky), Friday, 17 June 2005 14:57 (eighteen years ago) link

By being fired, hopefully, giving Matt the manager's job?

Markelby (Mark C), Friday, 17 June 2005 14:58 (eighteen years ago) link

but if Matt got the manager's job he wouldn't be able to go to Clitheroe and find heavenly wines, would he?

Vicky (Vicky), Friday, 17 June 2005 15:06 (eighteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...
um, new air conditioners have turned up so cow-orkers annoyingly dropped everything to unpack and set the gaia-destroying things up and turned the place into ice-station zebra. (and don't air conditioners need the rest of the windows to be closed?)

these same people will put milkbottles back in the fridge with two molecules of milk left in them in order to save themselves having to rinse them out and put them on the side.

koogs (koogs), Thursday, 14 July 2005 09:50 (eighteen years ago) link

like clockwork, horse (that's what we call her) will use the restroom close to my desk. we call her horse because that's what it smells like she eats. and then she tries to cover it with this lysol-ish spray, which only makes it worse. i gag everyday around 2:30 p.m. like clockwork. she does not shut the door when finished.

the same person, ugh, ok, i've been working on a dictionary and i've been storing everything on floppy. she took a magnet and rubbed on the floppy and asked, "does it really mess up these things to rub a magnet on them?" all of my hard work, destroyed.

i. can't. see. clearly. when i'm near her.

ai lien (kold_krush), Thursday, 14 July 2005 13:22 (eighteen years ago) link

I would say that last thing is a complainable offense. Like to a boss or something. FUCKED UP.

n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 14 July 2005 13:31 (eighteen years ago) link

the horse, she just doesn't think before she speaks or acts. i mean, she's nice, but really really thick. in a way, i pity her, but she makes me so upset. she also has a bad habit of picking up things off of my and another co-worker's desk and breaking them. like pencils, pens, STAPLERS. i contribute this to the fact that she's naturally hyper. oh, and the diet pills. good grief.

ai lien (kold_krush), Thursday, 14 July 2005 13:44 (eighteen years ago) link

this person sounds like she needs to be put down

Homosexual II (Homosexual II), Thursday, 14 July 2005 13:51 (eighteen years ago) link

I would say that last thing is a complainable punchable offense.

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Thursday, 14 July 2005 14:19 (eighteen years ago) link

the same person, ugh, ok, i've been working on a dictionary and i've been storing everything on floppy. she took a magnet and rubbed on the floppy and asked, "does it really mess up these things to rub a magnet on them?" all of my hard work, destroyed.

Kill her. Eat her heart.

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 14 July 2005 14:26 (eighteen years ago) link

they've closed the windows and it's hotter than ever unless you're stood < 5 feet in front of aircon. memo around this afternoon saying they'll get some fans to supplement the air conditioner. THAT'S ALL WE EVER NEEDED. what's the point in having aircon + fans when fans + windows open would work fine and keep the fuel bills down?

koogs (koogs), Thursday, 14 July 2005 14:58 (eighteen years ago) link

x-post

ok, right? and here i am, trying to learn patience and she gets sent my way. i would love to punch her in the throat, i would.

ai lien (kold_krush), Thursday, 14 July 2005 15:02 (eighteen years ago) link

even when she's on the phone with her friend, it's unnerving. i am going to angrily make copies, excuse me.

ai lien (kold_krush), Thursday, 14 July 2005 15:08 (eighteen years ago) link

she's naturally hyper. oh, and the diet pills.

carbon (carbon), Thursday, 14 July 2005 15:11 (eighteen years ago) link

that's right, diet pills. but she was mental before those came along. it's such a shitty combo.

and one more thing, and i'm done. she practically eats pens. she leaves these chewed pens on my desk! all of the time. i have to use a tissue to pick it up and return it to her. the scary thing is is that these pens have been chewed down, meaning that they are a lot smaller than original size. i'm done. i promise.

ai lien (kold_krush), Thursday, 14 July 2005 15:14 (eighteen years ago) link

i've just had an e-mail from someone saying they can't open the plain text file i sent them. "what's .txt? it doesn't agree with my computer."

jesus wept.

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Thursday, 14 July 2005 15:15 (eighteen years ago) link

> she took a magnet and rubbed on the floppy
> all of my hard work, destroyed

yikes. part of me thinks that someone who trusts the only copy of their work to a *floppy* almost deserves to lose it. email copies to yourself regularly at the very least.

koogs (koogs), Thursday, 14 July 2005 16:12 (eighteen years ago) link

fair enough. yet it doesn't make her less stupid, less annoying, and less co-worker.

ai lien (kold_krush), Thursday, 14 July 2005 17:24 (eighteen years ago) link

We have a new girl at work and she's the annoying 'why are you so quiet? why don't you talk more?' sort. Grrr.

tokyo nursery school: afternoon session (rosemary), Thursday, 14 July 2005 18:06 (eighteen years ago) link

Tell her she wouldn't want to hear the things you'd want to say to her.

Working with anyone on diet pills is the worst thing ever. I had one of those at my first office job right out of college, and I thought I might kill myself. She was always shaking and snippy and frazzled.

Sarah McLusky (coco), Thursday, 14 July 2005 18:13 (eighteen years ago) link

Space is limited so I'm sitting at the desk of a director who has the day off and he wears so much cologne every day that there is a miasma of men's cologne floating around his desk that I can actually taste. And his phone gives me a headache.

pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 14 July 2005 18:16 (eighteen years ago) link

i don't have any recent stories about my annoying co-worker because he got let go for being extremely annoying.

but i want to hear more about the new air conditioning saga! as a texan i find british tales of air conditioning endearing.

fortunate hazel (f. hazel), Thursday, 14 July 2005 18:22 (eighteen years ago) link

we have a bathroom bandit as well. she's a young woman with a hideous skin condition (think 'two-face,' the batman villain) and minor dwarfism. she also seems to have some abandonment issues (was born korean and left for dead, presumably due to her physical abnormalities, then adopted by a fundementalist x-tian couple who apparently have raised a wide range of similar cases) and is a complete nightmare socially. she says 'fire in the hole!' each day before she gets up to head for the bathroom, and is fond of the ace ventura style 'do NOT go in there!' she is completely oblivious to the fact that everyone that sits around her can scarcely supress gags.

stories are legion from female coworkers who, not realizing she was using the toilet stall (her feet don't touch the ground, see) walked in on her doing her business. she's also infamous as an office informant (someone once wrote 'narc' on her computer monitor in orange highlighter) and is absolutely impossible to communicate with.

argh

feverdream, Thursday, 14 July 2005 19:34 (eighteen years ago) link

someone once wrote 'narc' on her computer monitor in orange highlighter

This sounds like a good story!

Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 14 July 2005 19:55 (eighteen years ago) link

oh it is. a guy from another department was visiting and had heard the stories, but didn't know her personally. she was taking her daily bathroom break and wasn't expected back immediately so he picked up the marker and went to work. i guess she finished early though because the pitter patter of her tiny feet alerted him that she was nearby, and so he scrambled to hide under an adjacent desk. she took one look at the monitor, scowled, and then SPRINTED to the PRESIDENT'S OFFICE, skipping about 5 links in the 'chain of command.' had anyone else done this they likely would've been escorted from the building, but given her condition he was sympathetic and thus began a weeklong investigation into the crime.

the perp was terrified that he'd be discovered and actually ended up quitting out of fear. thank f*ck i was out of the office that day, or i would've surely been fingered for it.

she's also an avid juggler!

feverdream, Thursday, 14 July 2005 20:10 (eighteen years ago) link

jesus

scout (scout), Friday, 15 July 2005 06:31 (eighteen years ago) link

i'm so glad i have an office to myself. so so glad.

gem (trisk), Friday, 15 July 2005 06:36 (eighteen years ago) link

sorry, ai lien, you're right that you shouldn't really have to protect yourself from malicious idiots.

> but i want to hear more about the new air conditioning saga!

got in this morning and we seem to have reverted to using the windows as windows and the ac isn't even plugged in. (mind boggles at waste of money but is happy that we aren't wasting more).

koogs (koogs), Friday, 15 July 2005 07:59 (eighteen years ago) link

tories are legion from female coworkers who, not realizing she was using the toilet stall (her feet don't touch the ground, see) walked in on her doing her business

Doesnt she lock the stall door?!?

Trayce (trayce), Friday, 15 July 2005 08:45 (eighteen years ago) link

THE SECURITY GUARD WHO SAYS HELLO TO ME EVERY MORNING HAS A GOOGLY EYEBALL AND SHRUBS GROWING OUT OF HIS EARS.

Lupton Pitman (Chris V), Friday, 15 July 2005 13:09 (eighteen years ago) link

THE SECURITY GUARD WHO SAYS HELLO TO ME EVERY MORNING HAS A GOOGLY EYEBALL AND SHRUBS GROWING OUT OF HIS EARS.

he sounds very polite.

not-goodwin (not-goodwin), Friday, 15 July 2005 13:14 (eighteen years ago) link

im not sure if he is saying hello to me though because of his googly eye.

Lupton Pitman (Chris V), Friday, 15 July 2005 13:16 (eighteen years ago) link

you never can tell which i to look at can you?

not-goodwin (not-goodwin), Friday, 15 July 2005 13:22 (eighteen years ago) link

ONE GOES LEFT AND THE OTHER GOES RIGHT? IM NOT SURE HE'S EVEN LOOKING AT ME. I THINK HE IS SAYING HELLO TO THE TV.

Lupton Pitman (Chris V), Friday, 15 July 2005 13:25 (eighteen years ago) link

My annoying colleague wants us to get Linux in for all of our desktops and servers because she has heard that it's really cheap. She knows nothing at all about computers. She rings me up to tell me how cheap Linux is. Like I haven't heard all this years ago. Like no-one has ever suggested this to our company before. Like she's the first person to ever think of running Linux on the company's machines.

I hate it when I have to talk to people.

accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Friday, 15 July 2005 16:58 (eighteen years ago) link

He's sitting four feet away from me and dropping the worst assbombs and then just getting up to walk away... I'm on a conference call and therefore chained to my desk and sitting amid the stink oh god send help eyes watering death imminent ...

luna (luna.c), Friday, 15 July 2005 17:03 (eighteen years ago) link

Cue the Gap Band.

Rock Hardy (Rock Hardy), Friday, 15 July 2005 17:07 (eighteen years ago) link

Why do my coworkers always give me spreadsheets to update but then not close out of them on their computers?! The dumbesT!

Sarah McLusky (coco), Friday, 15 July 2005 17:19 (eighteen years ago) link

I had an intern who was 5 years older than me, and a whole level-of-education up on me, and balding a bit--just enough of all of the above to make me feel utterly unqualified to be telling him what to do. Until I discovered he is utterly unable to do what I tell him to do. Or probably tie his shoes (albeit untested).

We once asked him to call a whole slew of actors to get their social security numbers, which he recorded on the spreadsheet from whence he got their phone numbers. This took 4 hours. The spreadsheet was sort of a public document, so we told him to take the social security numbers off there, as they are private, etc. Which he did, with success. Except he DID NOT RECORD THEM ANYWHERE ELSE. And then just left. Successfully undoing his entire days work.

He looks exactly like Buster from Arrested Development.

now now now, Friday, 15 July 2005 17:38 (eighteen years ago) link

Some days I think I am working on a suicide hotline that operates out of a high school locker room.

Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Friday, 15 July 2005 18:11 (eighteen years ago) link

My coworkers are reasonably okay, a lot of overgrown sorority girls really. I just don't like it when they talk to me in their batshit approximations of an English accent (yes this old chestnut). They say "hallo A-dom!". I don't pronounce my name anything like "A-dom". Shut up you.

L@@K !! *RARE*!! (nordicskilla), Friday, 15 July 2005 18:20 (eighteen years ago) link

They don't know that you're Scottish?

Dr. Glen Y. Abreu (dr g), Friday, 15 July 2005 18:22 (eighteen years ago) link

Every time I think it would be nice to have coworkers again, this thread gets revived. Thanks.

Rock Hardy (Rock Hardy), Friday, 15 July 2005 19:04 (eighteen years ago) link

My colleague is a 23 year old called Caroline. She's not lazy. She's a know-it-all and a braggard. She loves to correct what you say. Recently she told me I couldn't possibly have checked in 2 hours before my flight from Heathrow as check in was apparently 3 hours. Never mind what my actual experience was. What she says goes.
There is nothing in the world you can do, or have, or know, that she can't top. Every single conversation with her ends the same way. And if she can't personally claim to have a 12 inch waist be able to speak Cantonese, you can bet she'll have a friend or a cousin who does. Here's a selection of some of her more memorable boasts.

Workmate: I think Irish accents are really sexy.
Caroline: I know someone from Ireland
W: I like Spanish accents too.
C: I've got a friend who's Spanish
W: And West country accents
C: My grandfather was born in Bristol

Me (to a colleague) My car broke down in ***** (an exclusive area in our town)
C (from across the room) Why are you talking about ****?
Me (resigned to inevitable brag) My car broke down there.
C: My friend lives there.

Workmate: Old John's so switched on, he can speak 4 languages.
C: I know someone who can speak 5

Workmate: So I'm off to Las Vegas for my hols. I can't wait!
C: I know loads of people who've been there.

Workmate: My mum's tiny, lucky thing. She's only a size 8
C: My sister's a size 6.
(the week before her sister's height was apparently 5' 11". At size 6, she really needs to see a doctor)

Caroline also catches the spirit of the age. When our manager's brother left the army to join the clergy, Caroline suddenly had a grandfather who is a C of E vicar. When the Pope was dying and everyone chatted about it at work, suddenly Caroline's family became devoutly Catholic, with her describing a fire and brimstone upbringing completely at odds with her earlier portrayals.
And Caroline plays on her age. At 23 she's the youngest in our department and mistakenly believes that it makes her beautiful and nubile. If you saw her you'd think otherwise. She makes constant comparisons to my age (29) and seems to imply that I'm over the hill. If an oldish song comes on the radio and you say: "That reminds me of a great holiday in 1997", Caroline will say: "I was only 15 then." and I feel like replying: "So what? Were you a fat wallflower then like you are now?"
With the more senior of our colleagues, Caroline will ask what year a certain song came out. When the answer is 1974 or whatever, Caroline will say: "I was minus 8 then." and it's her chance to catch some envy that she mistakenly believes these women have of her.
Some colleagues actually manufacture conversations in order to watch Caroline jump through hoops in order to impress. It can be quite funny but more than anything it drives me crackers.

Beverley Nicks, Sunday, 24 July 2005 17:00 (eighteen years ago) link

That sounds infuriating, but I think your coworkers have the right idea. Goad her into one-upping absurd things and contradicting herself. Surely such transparent insecurity cannot be too difficult to manipulate.

Laura H. (laurah), Sunday, 24 July 2005 17:25 (eighteen years ago) link

right, but then you'd have to talk to her.

teeny (teeny), Sunday, 24 July 2005 17:34 (eighteen years ago) link

she sounds like my older sister... always trying to prove her superiority as the oldest child.

i am off in a few minutes to a baby shower for my very annoying pregnant coworker. this girl is several years younger than i, got herself knocked up by her stupid boyfriend (who already has another child with whom he has no involvement), and they fight every single day. i get to hear about their arguments (or maybe i should just say argument since it's always the same thing over and over and over) all day at work. she's also continued to smoke newports for the duration of her pregnancy, and then complains about how she doesn't feel well and is uncomfortable. occasionally she'll call at 1 am, crying over something ridiculous, and the other night she asked at 12:30 if she could come over to "talk." NO! STAY AWAY FROM MY HOUSE! i feel bad because she really is a nice girl, just stupid and rather naive; however, i really do not feel like going to an annoying baby shower to pretend to be all excited about this kid.

famous and fabled, left to right (tehresa), Sunday, 24 July 2005 17:41 (eighteen years ago) link

I have to confess Beverly, if I had a co-worker like yours I would be merciless in my interrogation of her to try and catch her out like Laura suggests. Also, I fear I proabably would have made the "fat wallflower" comment to her face.

Trayce (trayce), Monday, 25 July 2005 00:17 (eighteen years ago) link

i can't really answer this thread question and that makes me very, very thankful.

joseph (joseph), Monday, 25 July 2005 01:28 (eighteen years ago) link

(well, for my current job anyway, i have a whole backlog of stories from the two years i worked at a pizzeria)

joseph (joseph), Monday, 25 July 2005 01:30 (eighteen years ago) link

My only beef would be with my main freelance client, who always overrules subtle, tasteful design choices with loud, gaudy technicolor stuff. But as far as our working relationship, no complaints.

Truckdrivin' Buddha (Rock Hardy), Monday, 25 July 2005 01:49 (eighteen years ago) link

but if Matt got the manager's job he wouldn't be able to go to Clitheroe and find heavenly wines, would he?

As of September 19th Matt will HAVE that manager's job. The trips to Clitheroe will only increase, that wine list isn't going to know what hit it.

Matt (Matt), Monday, 25 July 2005 09:37 (eighteen years ago) link

and nor are the chefs, for that matter

Matt (Matt), Monday, 25 July 2005 09:49 (eighteen years ago) link

just stop getting up and walking around, cunt.

N_RQ, Monday, 25 July 2005 12:45 (eighteen years ago) link

I work in hospital admin. One of my duties includes making appointments for patients over the phone. Most are normal, pleasant people but we get a small percentage of morons, nutcases and rabblerousers. Like this one:

Patient (in a strange, sarcastic sing-song voice that would continue throughout the call) I'd like to see the Consultant this week.
Me: Sorry, I'm afraid he's fully booked up.
Patient: My next appointment isn't for another three weeks. Why the hell should I wait that long?
Me: Looking on our system here, Mrs Smith, it appears that you've cancelled a number of appointments before now...
P: So?
M: This is why you've had to wait so long. You keep cancelling your appointments.
P: I'm a busy woman. I have school runs to do. I also have shopping trips to make. Every appointment I've been given is on a Wednesday. I can't come that day.
Me: Unfortunately that's the only day the Consultant has a clinic. If your condition needs urgent treatment you should go to ******** hospital (the nearest A&E)
P: Well that's not good enough, is it? What am I supposed to do?
Me: What we tell all patients Mrs Smith, is that if they really need the hospital appointment they will have to make time in their private lives to come in.
P: I don't believe this. Listen to me, My husband is a (middle ranking man in the Services) and I see no reason why I should be kept waiting so long.
M (nonplussed and pissed off) I'm afraid your husband's status is neither here nor there, Mrs Smith. Patients are seen on medical priority only.
P: I am a very busy woman.
M: The consultant is very busy too. This is why an appointment system is in place.
P: Why can't he see me tomorrow?
M: He doesn't run clinics on Tuesday. He'll be in threatre.
P: Let me speak to him.
M: He's not here, in our office.
P: Well where is he?
M: I'd imagine he's operating as we speak. Now can I take it you will be coming to see the Consulant in three weeks' time?
P: I am a wife. I am a mother. I don't have time for this. Are you going to tell me exactly who is going to pick my children up from school if I do?
M Well many other patients arrange for a friend or a relative or a child minder to do it.
P, now shreiking: Are you telling me how to run my life? How dare you be so patronising. What's your name?
M: I'm not t rying to patronise you. You asked me a question-"
P: The conversation has now moved on. I asked for your name."
M: Beverley.
P: Thank you Beverley. Must get your name right if I'm getting you your marching orders.

This conversation took place around three months ago. Nothing's come back on me so i know I did nothing wrong. But I'm left wondering if this woman goes through life rubbing up ppl the wrong way. A colleague, oblivious of my encounter with "Mrs Smith" came back from reception duties to say she'd just dealt with a patient in clinic who was the rudest she'd ever encountered. Yes it was Mrs Smith. But apparently the sight of the Consultant made Mrs Smith come over all girly, a la the sketch on the Fast Show.


Beverley Nicks, Wednesday, 27 July 2005 20:24 (eighteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...
I think I have steam coming out of my ears today, and well, maybe it's not REALLY the stupid annoying coworkers' fault, just my bad hormones. But fuck it.

Coworker 1 brings back some CDs I'd labelled for him, apparently complaining they are wrong. Each CD is in fact labelled exactly according to what he wrote on the disc. Since I am not at my desk he leaves a post-it note on each CD telling me what the label SHOULD be. The post-its are entirely unintelligible. I copy them exactly anyway, but doubtless they will be 'wrong' again.

Coworker 2 wants lever arch files. But the lever arch files I have in the stationery cupboard are too tall. She wants short ones. I already told her last month we don't get different sizes. In some cases I might do a special order, BUT she doesn't even really work here any more, and as such isn't entitled to ANY stationery. Kindly, though, she has put lots of photos from a party last term onto CDs for all of us. But wants me to reimburse her for the CDs. Arrgh you are a very nice woman but STOP TAKING THE PISS.

Archel (Archel), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 12:02 (eighteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...
It's half-five on a Saturday afternoon, and I'm trying to have a nap, when the work phone rings.

"I'm in Word, and I'm trying to write a letter, and the text is too small, and I don't know how to make it bigger."

GRRRRRR. I do not work Saturdays. We do not have such a thing as "on call". Moreover, I should not have to explain things like "press Ctrl-A then look for where it says '8' on the toolbar and change it to '12'" EVERY BLOODY TIME YOU TRY TO WRITE TO SOMEONE.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Saturday, 3 September 2005 15:38 (eighteen years ago) link

You should've told them the only way to get bigger text is to buy a bigger monitor.

internet comedy novice (Matt Chesnut), Saturday, 3 September 2005 16:27 (eighteen years ago) link

Hah. No, because he would have expected me to go into work there and then to fit one.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Saturday, 3 September 2005 16:28 (eighteen years ago) link

ask him if he has a licence to be operating the computer. when he says no, suck air through your teeth and tell him he's in breach of the internet act 2004, and risks arrest should he continue.

anyone that fucking stupid will almost certainly believe you, leaving to to kip in peace :)

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Saturday, 3 September 2005 16:42 (eighteen years ago) link

Must he dramatize the fact that he is chewing peanuts. Chw-chw-chw.

Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 12:50 (eighteen years ago) link

My god, FP, that is mad! Why are they allowed to call you on Saturday?!

I'm sure upthread somewhere is the time when my colleague called me ON HOLIDAY to ask where a folder was. ('Under your biscuit tin' turned out to be the answer but I wouldn't have known that.) And when Matt was called by someone asking him where the scissors were. Haha.

Archel (Archel), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 12:56 (eighteen years ago) link

Greatest idea in the entire universe: When someone responds to a mass email using Reply to All, send another Reply to All to ask people to stop using Reply to All - except make a typo so that someone else Replies to All to ask for clarification. Clarify using Reply to All.

robster (robster), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 13:29 (eighteen years ago) link

"Hi there! You appear to be pressing Reply To All! 90% of the time this will make you look like a moron! Are you sure? Y/N"

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 13:46 (eighteen years ago) link

GRR grr, there was that time my former boss, who had not been my boss for six months, called me on holiday, knowing I was on holiday because she'd already spoken to people in my new office, to ask details about a spreadsheet I had not looked at for six months and was not able to look at just then either because I was ON HOLIDAY, grr GRR.

Mädchen (Madchen), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 13:47 (eighteen years ago) link

hurray! my co-workers aren't here today! it's just me!

ai lien (kold_krush), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 13:48 (eighteen years ago) link

there was that time my former boss, who had not been my boss for six months, called me on holiday

But that would be great, because you could tell him to go fuck himself with a melon baller, without repercussions!

Rock Hardy (Rock Hardy), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 13:54 (eighteen years ago) link

Nah, that only works if you've gone somewhere completely different. I had moved department and building but was still in the same faculty. However, it did mean I could Make A Complaint.

Mädchen (Madchen), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 13:56 (eighteen years ago) link

Hm. Thread connections ahoy: I suspect that the super-indulged noisy brats from the other thread will grow up to be the stupid annoying coworkers of tomorrow. That classic 'world revolves round my needs' attitude...

Archel (Archel), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 13:56 (eighteen years ago) link

OMG I just read that as "world revolves around my neds".

And verily I was sore afraid...

Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 13:58 (eighteen years ago) link

Soon I won't be having to put up with said co-workers, or (best of all) the more annoying customers. I told some (patronising, unpleasant, golf-club frequenting, impossible to please. The sort who really get a kick out of ordering waiting on staff around, the sort who say "make sure the white is cold, will you?" despite knowing perfectly well that in the five years they've been eating here they've never once had a warm bottle of white) regulars that I was leaving and they asked me what I was going to do.

"Well" I said "the day after I leave, I'm going to track down every customer who's ever been needlessly unpleasant to me, and beat the living daylights out of them"

Matt (Matt), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 14:01 (eighteen years ago) link

Woot!

And God I hate that. It's like saying 'oh and make sure the sun sets tonight, will you? I can't STAND it when it doesn't and I Am Very Important you know.'

Archel (Archel), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 14:06 (eighteen years ago) link

Dear Guy Over There On Other Side Of Room:

1) Please turn volume of ring tone down by at least three bars

2) Please change ringtune from Bodyrockers to something more enjoyable and cool e.g. pneumatic drill

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 14:09 (eighteen years ago) link

I like my co workers, although there is this weird guy upstairs called Stevie who keeps talking to me and stuff.

Raston Warrior Robot (alix), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 14:14 (eighteen years ago) link

OMG I just read that as "world revolves around my neds"

I thought it was "world revolves around my nads."

Rock Hardy (Rock Hardy), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 14:14 (eighteen years ago) link

Dear Chef, please follow Stevem's advice PRECISELY Kthnxbye

Matt (Matt), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 14:32 (eighteen years ago) link

please be aware that design documents that take you 5 minutes to change may require more than a day to re-implement. and raising 3 bugs an hour for things that are now wrong depsite being exactly how you wanted them to be last week, well, just don't be surprised when things aren't ready for two weeks time, ok?

and stop tapping your feet, the suspended floor means it's making my whole world shake. kthxbye.

koogs (koogs), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 14:44 (eighteen years ago) link

the woman who sits behind me, back to back with me, is the ed. of the fitness section at the paper here. she runs everywhere. in the office, i mean. she doesn't get up and walk anywhere. she leaps up and bursts. it's disconcerting, but i didn't really get bothered by her until she got rid of her normal office chair and replaced it with...
http://www.sissel-online.com/images/products/75cm%20Swiss%20Ball%20Pro.JPG
it's ridiculous. she's constantly adjusting her position on it and squirming around or sitting on it in weird squeaky ways. and every single time she leaps up to dash somewhere, this fucking ball rolls over and bumps into the back of my chair. every time. 30 times a day. month after month. i'm easily annoyed, i admit, but this sucks. i really want to put a pin hole in it so it will deflate slowly over time. i've also considered leaping up out of my chair 30 times a day and pushing it as i run off so that my chair bumps into her. over and over. i'll never do this, of course.

andrew m. (andrewmorgan), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 15:14 (eighteen years ago) link

Ahahaha. God. Surely having large spherical objects loose in the office could constitute a H&S hazard? Report her.

Archel (Archel), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 15:17 (eighteen years ago) link

the moment i hit submit on that, she leapt up, her ball hit me, and she went "ack! it's always after you, andrew." ugh.

andrew m. (andrewmorgan), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 15:19 (eighteen years ago) link

Does she work on a computer sitting on that thing? I mean, that can't be good. I'm stunned.

Archel (Archel), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 15:24 (eighteen years ago) link

maybe it's supposed to strengthen abdomial muscles or improve posture or something. i dunno. normal office chairs have served manking for thousands of years! it's good enough for the rest of us. i want to pop your swiss health ball so badly!

andrew m. (andrewmorgan), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 15:29 (eighteen years ago) link

manking=mankind

manking sounds kinda cool though.

andrew m. (andrewmorgan), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 15:31 (eighteen years ago) link

That reminds me of the great mystery that is mankind. Break it down: "mank" and "ind" .. gets us no closer to undderstanding what it means. Yes mankind is truly mysterious.

(paraphrased, obv)

when something smacks of something (dave225.3), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 15:33 (eighteen years ago) link

good god, someone who sits on a swiss ball? we too have a fitness fanatic here, who insists in wandering around the office in her running gear (not a pretty sight), but that takes the biscuit. wow.

puncture it. go on. do it.

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 15:34 (eighteen years ago) link

yeah, really, do. Or just lay a little minefield of drawing pins behind your chair so that next time it approaches you - 'whoops! oh well, occupational hazard of NORMAL OFFICE LIFE now get one chair you freak.'

Archel (Archel), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 15:37 (eighteen years ago) link

you need to kill her, andrew. or pop her ball.

luna (luna.c), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 15:43 (eighteen years ago) link

andrew m you just don't get it do you

ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 15:46 (eighteen years ago) link

http://www.space.com/images/rotundus-rover.jpg

TOMBOT, Wednesday, 7 September 2005 15:49 (eighteen years ago) link

and every single time she leaps up to dash somewhere, this fucking ball rolls over and bumps into the back of my chair. every time. 30 times a day. month after month

30 times a day, month after month

ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 15:53 (eighteen years ago) link

yet still don't get it

ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 15:53 (eighteen years ago) link

her ball hit me, and she went "ack! it's always after you, andrew." ugh.

ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 15:53 (eighteen years ago) link

SHE

ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 15:54 (eighteen years ago) link

Pop the ball, Andrew.

luna (luna.c), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 15:54 (eighteen years ago) link

WANTS

ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 15:54 (eighteen years ago) link

YOUR

ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 15:54 (eighteen years ago) link

BODY!!!!!!!!

ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 15:54 (eighteen years ago) link

pop her cherry, andrew!

ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 15:54 (eighteen years ago) link

there will be blood on the Sissel Original Swiss Ball Pro® tonight.

wait. that took a weird turn. one i'm not willing or ready to address right now.

andrew m. (andrewmorgan), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 15:56 (eighteen years ago) link

haha best xpost ever

ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 15:57 (eighteen years ago) link

I like my co workers, although there is this weird guy upstairs called Stevie who keeps talking to me and stuff.

i'd just like to clarify that this isn't me. i *am a weird guy called stevie, but i don't work above anyone!

stevie (stevie), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 15:59 (eighteen years ago) link

Gosh, andrew. I hope you don't accidentally drop a box of thumbtacks on the floor behind you.

ya know, because they'll really hurt when they stick in her back.

when something smacks of something (dave225.3), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 16:01 (eighteen years ago) link

that other stevie is an ilxor i think, stevie

xpost

ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 16:01 (eighteen years ago) link

If I didn't know you already, andrew, I would have thought that you work at Google:

http://www.ruggedelegantliving.com/a/images/google.balls.jpg

My annoying co-workers? Well...

You miss the “I feel you pain” President? Why am I not surprised? Eight times in his eight years Americans were attacked by al-Qaida, over a thousand lives lost, and he did not ONE thing in response. Their blood is on his hands and YOUR hands. His administration had concrete evidence of pre-911 al-Qaida plans and his administration BLOCKED the Military and the Intel Agencies, and Police Depts from exchanging information. The 3,000 lives lost are on his head and YOURS.
...I'm not crazy about 'em.

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 16:17 (eighteen years ago) link

The woman across from me keeps bursting into tears as we’re moving buildings and she’ll have to get a bus and a tram.

not-goodwin (not-goodwin), Thursday, 8 September 2005 13:48 (eighteen years ago) link

me: *reads ILX for an hour*
little person: "are you cleaning up the computer?" [note: this is her term for defragging]
me: "yes"
little person: "i thought so with all that gibberish on the screen"

roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Thursday, 8 September 2005 13:56 (eighteen years ago) link

little person?

Raston Warrior Robot (alix), Thursday, 8 September 2005 13:57 (eighteen years ago) link

She works for Willy Wonka.

David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 8 September 2005 13:59 (eighteen years ago) link

Coworker: Do we have yesterday's Guardian?
Me: Yes, it'll be in the newspaper rack.
Coworker: ...
Me: [points] The metal one... on the wall there.
Coworker: [now standing at rack but not doing anything] But... where IS it?

(Throughout this discussion I am in the middle of serving a student or trying to.)

My brain: [shotuing] Jesus woman, is flicking through a couple of newspapers to find the right one really beneath/beyond you?
Me: ...

Archel (Archel), Thursday, 8 September 2005 14:07 (eighteen years ago) link

An employee got a reprimanding email from my mum/boss. As I can read all the emails, I could see the entire email. It was angry but not over the top.

She sniffled the rest of the day.

I rrrrreally didn't know what to do.

Awkward silence for the rest of the day.

nathalie's pocket revolution (stevie nixed), Thursday, 8 September 2005 14:13 (eighteen years ago) link

My little person coworker NEVER TIPS PEOPLE, and she orders lunch every day. How she can sleep at night is beyond my understanding. She even quibbles if they don't give her her idiotic QUARTER back as change. Anyway, so just now she gets food delivered and of course doesn't tip. However, she does give the delivery guy a round of applause and a condescending "good boy" for being 15 minutes early. I would have dumped a side salad on her demented, ill-proportioned head.

roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Thursday, 8 September 2005 15:41 (eighteen years ago) link

let the lip-smacking commence

roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Thursday, 8 September 2005 15:54 (eighteen years ago) link

have just had an email with two attachements, two excel spreadsheets. one had phone numbers, phone make and model number. the other had phone numbers, the same numbers, and associated urls. there were 3 of them in total. three lots of 4 columns spread over 2 excel spreadsheets and sent as attachments. how is this easier than just pasting the information as text into the body of the message? oh, and because the phone numbers were quite long it showed them in engineering format: 4.47999E+8.

koogs (koogs), Thursday, 8 September 2005 16:30 (eighteen years ago) link

Memo with details of new university branding and house style sent round everyone who works here. We are to use Arial 12pt for everything. Sixty minutes later, Office Manager sends out the agenda for tomorrow's staff meeting. In Comic 14pt bold.

Mädchen (Madchen), Friday, 9 September 2005 08:36 (eighteen years ago) link

There is nothing worse than being monumentally frustrated and shitty with the person you sit next to and are on the same shift as at work... when that person also happens to be yr best friend outside of work.

Combine anger and guilt over being angry, and it makes me feel really crap.

I thnk I'll talk to my b/f about whether I/we can afford for me to quit.

Trayce (trayce), Friday, 9 September 2005 08:38 (eighteen years ago) link

not annoying, slightly stupid ... and hysterically funny. a respected friend and colleague has forgotten his trousers.

yes, seriously. he cycled in wearing a pair of comedy shorts, intending to change into a pair of decent keks when he got to work. unfortunately, he omitted to put said keks in his bag. so he's now sitting at his mac looking a bit miserable, while everybody points and laughs at his knees. to make matters worse, he sits right by an enormous window.

despite the fact it is pissing down with rain, he's going to stick it out for the whole day. rather than doing what i'd have done, which is rushing to the nearest gentleman's outfitter and getting a big pair of slacks pronto.

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Friday, 9 September 2005 10:34 (eighteen years ago) link

Man, that’s like a bad dream.
Maybe he’ll wake up in a minute and get ready for work and pay special attention to remembering his troosers.

not-goodwin (not-goodwin), Friday, 9 September 2005 10:47 (eighteen years ago) link

Dear god Madchen, that's fantastic! And awful, obv. My co-workers are really nice, though one almost to the point of being annoying. Relentlessly cheerful and overly polite but she's lovely really.

Crackity (Crackity Jones), Friday, 9 September 2005 10:49 (eighteen years ago) link

Man, that’s like a bad dream.

that's what i said to him. but no, he hasn't woken up. instead he's just been sitting in the executive editor's office having an important meeting about the next few months' work. hhaaa!

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Friday, 9 September 2005 13:25 (eighteen years ago) link

ha ha ha.
i so wish i was there.

not-goodwin (not-goodwin), Friday, 9 September 2005 13:30 (eighteen years ago) link

He's a hero. I'm very impressed that he would tough it out. Just like that Bridget Jones girl.

accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Friday, 9 September 2005 13:30 (eighteen years ago) link

I've gone to work without a bra before. Thankfully, my boss was a doll and let me cycle home to put one on.

Mädchen (Madchen), Friday, 9 September 2005 13:31 (eighteen years ago) link

UH BRALESS CYCLING UHHHHH

n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 9 September 2005 13:34 (eighteen years ago) link

That came out creepier than intended, sorry.

n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 9 September 2005 13:34 (eighteen years ago) link

But not very sorry.

n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 9 September 2005 13:42 (eighteen years ago) link

I was wearing a big 1970s Polish ski jacket for warmth (it was very early in the morning, hence my dopey state) and really didn't look particularly special.

Mädchen (Madchen), Friday, 9 September 2005 13:54 (eighteen years ago) link

I think it was more about the concept than about the reality.

n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 9 September 2005 13:56 (eighteen years ago) link

grimly, post a pic of his shorts.

please.

not-goodwin (not-goodwin), Friday, 9 September 2005 14:00 (eighteen years ago) link

i think that might be a little difficult to do without getting battered.

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Friday, 9 September 2005 14:08 (eighteen years ago) link

Ha
I meant a similar pair from images.

not-goodwin (not-goodwin), Friday, 9 September 2005 14:18 (eighteen years ago) link

I was just on the phone, and one of my coworkers comes and looks in my office to ask me something. I am clearly on the phone, but she stands in the doorway and stares at me. Just stands there. Finally after like 30 seconds she says "Come find me when you're done." So I finish up my call, go find her, and she...wants me to replace the water jug on the cooler. Which was clearly urgent enough for her to stand in my doorway waiting for me to get off the phone.

n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 9 September 2005 15:42 (eighteen years ago) link

she came in to admit her feelings for you and ask you if you'd like to get together sometime. but while you were on the phone she chickened out and asked you about changing the dumb water jug instead.

andrew m. (andrewmorgan), Friday, 9 September 2005 15:46 (eighteen years ago) link

I meant a similar pair from images.

imagine the kind of thing stanley might have been wearing when he met livingstone, only baggier, and teamed with blue socks and brown suede shoes.

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Friday, 9 September 2005 16:05 (eighteen years ago) link

My stupid, annoying co-worker has been receiving emails meant for me since 15th August. Has she forwarded them to me to deal with? Has she fuck. Until today. My inbox pinged 54 times. I had to have a word. No wonder she's on extended probation and we have to write a report card for her at the end of each day. What a fucking stupidy stupid.

Mädchen (Madchen), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 13:33 (eighteen years ago) link

A "report card"???
I hope that post is what you will be putting on it!

Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 13:40 (eighteen years ago) link

It's to back ourselves up in case she takes us to tribunal when we terminate her employment. Some people in the office think the 'in case' should be a 'when'. The second 'when' is definitely a 'when'.

Mädchen (Madchen), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 13:48 (eighteen years ago) link

Are you awaiting a suitably opportune moment to get rid of her?

Crackity (Crackity Jones), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 13:54 (eighteen years ago) link

To The Person In My Office Who Decanted Their Colostomy Bag Into The Coffee Dispenser:

I'd like to note that I made the coffee today and it's bangin'. I feel like putting up instructions.

The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 13:54 (eighteen years ago) link

The end of her probation period is the moment. Three weeks to go!

Mädchen (Madchen), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 13:59 (eighteen years ago) link

I feel really guilty this week: my assistant just got a first "when" (though he possibly had had a few prior my taking this job )and there you go...he won´t be back at his desk from 1st Oct onwards

olenska (olenska), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 14:02 (eighteen years ago) link

Don't feel guilty, feel liberated!

Mädchen (Madchen), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 14:03 (eighteen years ago) link

Mädchen: does she *know* you're all having to do this?

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 14:08 (eighteen years ago) link

Yes, it's a list of tasks we've asked her to do with our comments/signature and she keeps it in her drawer.

Mädchen (Madchen), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 14:21 (eighteen years ago) link

One of my comments was about how, if you put Mr John Smith in line 1 of the address at the top of a letter, you do not begin your letter Dear Mrs Smith. I also had to teach her how to fold a letter so it fits in the envelope. She went home at 12.30 and I am still wound up!

Mädchen (Madchen), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 14:23 (eighteen years ago) link

most annoying conversation of the week so far:

ancient, creaky messanger dude: "simon, did you get that package i left on kathleen's desk yesterday?"
me: "er, no. why would i have done?"
ancient, creaky messanger dude: "it was addressed to mark. and said urgent."
me: "so you left it on kathleen's desk?"
ancient, creaky messanger dude: "it had her name on it too."
me: "but it was addressed to mark?"
ancient, creaky messanger dude: "yes, it said urgent."
me: "and you left it on her desk some 24 hours ago?"
ancient, creaky messanger dude: "yes."
me: "but she's on holiday." [rustles on desk under enormous pile of mail; produces package.]
ancient, creaky messanger dude: "that's it!"
me: "right. shall i give it to mark, who's sitting over there at his desk?"
ancient, creaky messanger dude: "ok."

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 14:28 (eighteen years ago) link

I think my wife used to work with this woman, Mädchen.

The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 14:29 (eighteen years ago) link

x-post: er, "messenger", natch. see: it's that kind of week. gah.

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 14:29 (eighteen years ago) link

And you typed it out like that over and over again!

Mädchen (Madchen), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 14:38 (eighteen years ago) link

Liberation vs guilt- it´s a classic. Perhaps my carefree, liberated mood will be clicked on from 1st Oct onwards when I don´t have to face someone miserable just a few inches away from me

olenska (olenska), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 14:53 (eighteen years ago) link

And you typed it out like that over and over again!

see, we mac users have this fantastic "copy and paste" function :p

(the original was actually sent to yr boyf, and contained the name of said old messenger dude. quite why i felt the need to spare his blushes, i don't know.)

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 15:21 (eighteen years ago) link

Okay he's not stupid or annoying but he smells. He's new. I emailed my friend and happened to mention my pooey colleague. I asked if she'd ever been in this situation ie: how do you deal discreetly with such a thing. Later on in the day my supervisor told him to sit with me for training. Part of this involves monitoring emails from customers etc.

My friend emailed me saying "at least I don't have a stinkyman in the office" He looked at the email then looked away quickly and went to make tea. I emailed her back telling her he was sitting with me and to send a similiar email that didn't allude to him (ingenius I thought, I could leave that open and he'd think he'd misread it) so she obliged, sending a new email saying "at least I don't have a stinkyman next door" - not much of an improvement but still.

Two minutes later she sent through another email with bold red letters - "HEY STINKY STOP READING HER EMAILS"

He read it. He smiled shyly. I beamed red. I had to sit with him for a further hour too scared to open anymore emails, too pathetic to say anything to him. Now I'm scared he won't come back tomorrow.

So I'M the stupid, annoying co-worker and I feel like fucking shit.

Rumpie, Tuesday, 20 September 2005 15:28 (eighteen years ago) link

but i didn't really get bothered by her until she got rid of her normal office chair and replaced it with...

Is there some sort of cult behind the "office chair balls?" At the last place I worked, at least a half-dozen people had those infernal things.

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 16:44 (eighteen years ago) link

There are three within forty feet of my office, and I must say their owners don't show any signs of improved posture.

Stephen X (Stephen X), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 16:48 (eighteen years ago) link

Rumpie, you have made my day.

The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 16:48 (eighteen years ago) link

One of my comments was about how, if you put Mr John Smith in line 1 of the address at the top of a letter, you do not begin your letter Dear Mrs Smith.

Madchen, do you work in my office? I've got one of them! She is part of the reason I am leaving. I sent her an email saying "has Mark done [what I was expecting him to do]". She emailed back to say "no, James (sic) dint (sic) do it yet". She is responsible for all external correspondence from her branch. SHE WAS ALSO GIVEN THE EMPLOYEE OF THE MONTH AWARD LAST MONTH despite potentially losing the company £2k+ of hard earned money (which my noseying about her work managed to save due to grovelling and apologising and rectifying in my own time).

g00glepr00f a1lsa who doesn't want her new (or old) employers reading this (ails, Tuesday, 20 September 2005 16:51 (eighteen years ago) link

Two minutes later she sent through another email with bold red letters - "HEY STINKY STOP READING HER EMAILS"

mwoo-hah! o god, that's joyously funny. and look on the bright side: if he doesn't come back, no more whiffage.

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 17:05 (eighteen years ago) link

everyone at my office has the balls instead of chairs

its dumb

Homosexual II (Homosexual II), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 19:37 (eighteen years ago) link

Argh, my immediate coworkers are fine, but some of the techs we deal with... my god. One guy I hate dealing with is SO RUDE, he swears and yells at me, I've made 2 official complaints to that client's account manager, thinking the guys boss would sort it... and then that guys BOSS was rude to me the next day! Yesterday he lied blatantly to me about what testing we'd done on a supposedly slow internet link he was working on. I said I'd call him back after doing some tests. I couldnt find a thing wrong. So I didnt call him back. Fucker.

This other tech - we call him Uncle Arthur (after the comedy show character) - is good, but so slow and noodly about his work. It took me half an hour to get him to enter 3 IP addresses in his laptops LAN settings, and the damn thing still wouldnt log into the router we were setting up. Then after all that, and him rambling away like a senile old man, he suddenly exclaims "oh ho wait a minute - I havent put the ethernet card into my laptop!! That would do it". *bangs head on desk*.

He then had the nerve to charge us for an extra hour and a half of work! We knew what he'd done though so he'll get his.

I hate this job.

Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 01:30 (eighteen years ago) link

In fact I hate it so much I just decided to quit, didnt I? Hah. Oh well. Chalk one up for... something :/

Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 02:39 (eighteen years ago) link

whoa, really? can you get dole money if you quit?

hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 02:40 (eighteen years ago) link

Not immediatlely I assume. But i have some savings (I saw today coming a mile off and have been preparing for it), my b'f is working, and I'd get dole eventually I think if it came to that.

I'd be able to get a new job easily. The catch is what KIND. I dont wanna go thru what I just went through all over again :(

Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 02:48 (eighteen years ago) link

so you seriously just like walked out or whatever? crazy.

hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 03:16 (eighteen years ago) link

oh no no. I will be seeing me boss tomorrow. Prolly give 2 weeks to a months notice. I'd feel too rude not to at least do that :/

Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 03:18 (eighteen years ago) link

Its just been building up for a long while, and i've been sick from the stress.

Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 03:19 (eighteen years ago) link

God I WISH I could just walk out! heh. But fuck dat I left my good headphones at work ;P

Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 03:20 (eighteen years ago) link

so hypothetically if you tell him you're quitting he might beg you to stay or something?

hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 03:22 (eighteen years ago) link

Bahaha! *hysterical frayed laugh*. Yes, I suppose that could happen :(

Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 03:23 (eighteen years ago) link

well then grab him by the balls and make some demands. otherwise, yeah, quit that shit.

hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 03:36 (eighteen years ago) link

I'd get dole eventually I think if it came to that.

SIGN ON THE DAY AFTER YOU QUIT, TRAYCE!

CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 07:26 (eighteen years ago) link

Hahaha I would if I could! I think theres some wait rule abt quittin' tho. 4 weeks or god knows.

Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 07:27 (eighteen years ago) link

honestly, you'll only lose out if you don't, and you can then backdate housing benefit etc if necessary.

"you may feel a slight sting. That's pride, fucking with you. Fuck pride. Pride only hurts, it never helps."

Word, Marsellus.

xpost - just don't tell them you quit! tell them you got made redundant, or reached the end of your contract or whatever.

CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 07:30 (eighteen years ago) link

Can I admit here that I like those office balls? They're fun to bounce around on (admittedly I don't sit on one, I just act like a child with other peoples')

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 08:19 (eighteen years ago) link

I pointed out to Frances last night during Nighty Night that the contracts woman who'd come to my department from hers has the mannerisms of Cath (Rebecca Front's character). She then said she'd always thought Tr1c14, who worked in her department at the time and still works there now, was effectively a model for Jill (Julia Davies' character) and so why was I complainging when she had them both, at the same time.

I contemplated asking her if she was Angus Deayton, but thought better of it.

aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 08:56 (eighteen years ago) link

Stinkyman is back. My boss asked me if he'd been okay last night because she thinks he is a bit standoffish this morning. I said "no no, he was great last night, fantastic, yeah, tee hee, he was in FINE spirits."

Shit, if he complains my ass is grass.

Rumpie, Wednesday, 21 September 2005 09:44 (eighteen years ago) link

he still stinks? the penny didn't drop?

g-kit (g-kit), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 09:49 (eighteen years ago) link

Shit, if he complains my ass is grass.

how? you have veritas on your side. he honks. end of story. complain about him first, just to be on the safe side :)

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 09:51 (eighteen years ago) link

A couple of us have done, the boss seems unwilling to deal with it. He's really good though, taking stuff in really well compared to the last failed trainee.

Surely he won't complain, what would he say?

"I stink of b.o and she was discussing it?"

Rumpie, Wednesday, 21 September 2005 10:11 (eighteen years ago) link

this is a bit funny but you're a dick

RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 10:12 (eighteen years ago) link

aw, come on, RJG: if anyone's at fault here, it's rumpie's friend - the one who sent the e-mail. (not to mention the dude who doesn't wash his pits.)

i still bear the olfactory scars from a geography teacher who honked to high heaven, and therefore appreciate rumpie's dilemma.

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 10:35 (eighteen years ago) link

When I started at my last job on a helpdesk, it was populated with goths and stinky roleplayer nerdboys, and I am not exaggerating. Some of the guys had no social skills. And hey, thats cool - but not only did they pong but some FARTED all day long.

More than once, our team leader sent out an email saying "guys (and I mean GUYS) - wash and use deoderant or I'll start NAMING NAMES".

Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 10:51 (eighteen years ago) link

It's true though, I am a dick, I should never have discussed him with her. I know we all talk about our colleagues, especially the odd ones, like the guy with the lightsaber etc, but yeah, I'm a dick for mentioning it to someone who doesn't realise how important my job is to me.

Shoot me, hang me, whatever.

Rumpie, Wednesday, 21 September 2005 10:51 (eighteen years ago) link

Eh Rumpie I wouldnt worry. To be honest I did like your friends STOP READING HER MAIL STINKY email :D

Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 10:56 (eighteen years ago) link

Come on, who of us wouldnt want to know if we ponged?

Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 10:56 (eighteen years ago) link

it's not the ponger knowing, that's the embarrassment, but the pongee

RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 11:09 (eighteen years ago) link

I find it hard to believe that smelly people really don't know that they smell

I think that I think that they must just assume that no-one else will notice

RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 11:12 (eighteen years ago) link

you're not a dick, rump; heaven knows, I have said much worse, than this, (I'm pretty sure you probably have, too) but, usually, only when the person seems to be actively asking for it, rather than unactively washing themselves

you're mistake, though, was letting him find out (1. he smells & 2. people talk about his smell), in a dicky way

RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 11:17 (eighteen years ago) link

it was your mistake, of course

RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 11:18 (eighteen years ago) link

Oh RGJ, yr pedantry ist clevar ;P

Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 11:39 (eighteen years ago) link

good luck trayce!

teeny (teeny), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 11:45 (eighteen years ago) link

Oh cripes. Poor guy. He's coming to train with me again this afternoon. Should I try to come up with some silly cover story for yesterday or should I bore him with inane small talk and not leave a gap for him to jump in?

Rumpie, Wednesday, 21 September 2005 11:46 (eighteen years ago) link

OH FUCKING FUCK NOB FUCK SUCK WHY CAN'Y YOU EVER ADMIT WHEN YOU ARE WRONG ???!! IT DOES HAPPEN SOMETIMES YER KNOW!!!

Ste (Fuzzy), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 12:09 (eighteen years ago) link

Why not just apologise and suggest (assuming he still smells) that deodroant should sort his problem?

Um, what just happened to mild-mannered Ste?

Markelby (Mark C), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 12:45 (eighteen years ago) link

there's a guy here who, and for a start joins in on everybody elses conversations even tho it's nothing to do with him, adds his two-penny worth but when he gets told he's probly incorrect just cannot handle it and becomes all "oh i don't know I think you may find that's not the case blah blah i might have to check that with the official jiggery pokery company terms and conditions documents"
GOD man just accept that you can be WRONG sometimes.

Ste (Fuzzy), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 12:50 (eighteen years ago) link

cuz i know y'all are just dying to know...

swiss health ball woman update!
so yesterday, i overheard the husband of the swiss health ball woman talking to another coworker (and btw, the number of married or soon to be married couples around here is absolutely pathetic--journos only associate with each other! i can count 15 couples here without thinking about it too hard) about his wife. he spoke of some sore back issues she was having. hearing this i thought, "hmm. will it mean, could it mean...?!" YES! the next day her ball was set aside for a normal office chair! she hasn't taken the ball home, but this should give me a few days of relief at least. i mean, i hope she gets her back soreness taken care of and all, but this makes me happy.

andrew m. (andrewmorgan), Friday, 23 September 2005 16:27 (eighteen years ago) link

Dude... why would you even want to bring up the stinky email issue? I'm willing to bet he wants to discuss the issue even less than you. If he really did realize the email was about him why would he want to add to his embarrassment by bringing it up?

Also - WAY TO GO TRAYCE!

Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 23 September 2005 17:35 (eighteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...
Help, I’m surrounded by people I don’t want to be surrounded by.

To my right I, have a complete headcase who talks her actions. Something like this, “I’ll just open this e-mail, proceeds to read it out, oh I’ve got another one, if I times that by that then I’ll get this ooh that’s not right”, and so on.

Opposite right is my boss who’s done everything you’ve done but better, faster or more terrible.

Opposite me I have brown nose yes man, he asks if I’ve got my stats for the team leader. Like it’s anything to do with him.

Opposite left is ok guy, but doesn’t speak, just stares.

not-goodwin (not-goodwin), Monday, 17 October 2005 10:41 (eighteen years ago) link

Help, I’m surrounded by people I don’t want to be surrounded by.

That's work, it's supposed to be like that. Otherwise it wouldn't be work.


Opposite left is ok guy, but doesn’t speak, just stares.

Not speaking colleagues are the best.

nathalie, a bum like you (stevie nixed), Monday, 17 October 2005 10:49 (eighteen years ago) link

....

William Paper Scissors (Rock Hardy), Monday, 17 October 2005 10:54 (eighteen years ago) link

That's work, it's supposed to be like that. Otherwise it wouldn't be work

i know this but we've moved around and i used to be surrounded by better/real/fun people.

not-goodwin (not-goodwin), Monday, 17 October 2005 10:55 (eighteen years ago) link

Yeah, I know, I'm trying to be see the bright side of it. :-)

nathalie, a bum like you (stevie nixed), Monday, 17 October 2005 11:39 (eighteen years ago) link

one good thing about it is that i can bore the pants off ilxers with their annoyances.

not-goodwin (not-goodwin), Monday, 17 October 2005 11:47 (eighteen years ago) link

i knew you just wanted to get my pants off :(

g-kit (g-kit), Monday, 17 October 2005 11:48 (eighteen years ago) link

is that why you wanted to meet me at glasto, so i could actually do it?

not-goodwin (not-goodwin), Monday, 17 October 2005 11:50 (eighteen years ago) link

aye, one warm can of stellar and i'm anyone's.

g-kit (g-kit), Monday, 17 October 2005 11:52 (eighteen years ago) link

it's quite a big can you know.

ken c (ken c), Monday, 17 October 2005 11:54 (eighteen years ago) link

i've just overheard a colleague describe an iBook as "the laptop thing that you get for an iPod so you can download music on it".

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Monday, 17 October 2005 13:21 (eighteen years ago) link

*explodes*

Jonothong Williamsmang (ex machina), Monday, 17 October 2005 13:22 (eighteen years ago) link

Hahaha. Well, my dad wanted to buy a Mini to hook up to this computer.

nathalie, a bum like you (stevie nixed), Monday, 17 October 2005 13:23 (eighteen years ago) link

not annoying but silly

shock: "dude i was watching a british television show and they had bloc party as the background music!!"
awe: "what?"

Jonothong Williamsmang (ex machina), Monday, 17 October 2005 14:39 (eighteen years ago) link

Pop the ball, andrew.

luna (luna.c), Monday, 17 October 2005 15:17 (eighteen years ago) link

same person as yesterday: "does channel five have a press office?"

jesus WEPT.

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 12:38 (eighteen years ago) link

i've just overheard a colleague describe an iBook as "the laptop thing that you get for an iPod so you can download music on it".

haha well to be fair it's not like you can do a lot more with an ibook than that.

ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 12:44 (eighteen years ago) link

grimly, a swift punch to the temple will stop stupid comments like that.

not-goodwin (not-goodwin), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 12:49 (eighteen years ago) link

it's a girl.

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 13:00 (eighteen years ago) link

The other day the main manager of my company said "What we really need to focus on now is the fact that we're under-over-communicating. We need to over-communicate more."

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 13:04 (eighteen years ago) link

it's a girl

and?

not-goodwin (not-goodwin), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 13:07 (eighteen years ago) link

The other day the main manager of my company said "What we really need to focus on now is the fact that we're under-over-communicating. We need to over-communicate more."

He must be clubbed & skinned before he has a chance to breed.

Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 13:51 (eighteen years ago) link

My coworkers are so lame. They can't agree which one of them should tell me when they run out of paper in the staff room copier, so because they are apparently petty helpless children, I've been told I have to go there (on the other side of the building) once a week to check if they're running low. I mean, how hard is it to pick up a phone?

Archel (Archel), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 13:56 (eighteen years ago) link

Today we are discussing how much of our Christmas shopping we have got done.

Mädchen (Madchen), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 08:12 (eighteen years ago) link

People have started it already???!?

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 08:13 (eighteen years ago) link

Holy shit.

Matt (Matt), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 08:14 (eighteen years ago) link

People have almost finished already.

Mädchen (Madchen), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 08:19 (eighteen years ago) link

Ways I prefer not to start a day: with a coworker trying to stare me out because she claims she booked a room which I know she did NOT book. I mean, surely there are more sophisticated negotiation techniques than STARING? Like I was going to suddenly go 'wow, that evil eye trick really works, I see now you were right all along, and this email from another tutor proving his prior claim on the room is just a figment of my imagination.'

Also I'd woken up an hour late and so had had no breakfast or coffee and my email was broken.

Grrr.

Archel (Archel), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 08:20 (eighteen years ago) link

People have almost finished already.

"people"

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 09:27 (eighteen years ago) link

nothing like a bit of efficiency.

ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 09:30 (eighteen years ago) link

Wow, someones breath is fucking HONKING.

This is getting really bad so it is. I've got Stinkyman sitting opposite and The Phantom Carrier of Death Breath somewhere in the vicinity. What's going on?

I've been choking back the Wrigleys so I can rule myself out...

Rumpie, Wednesday, 19 October 2005 09:31 (eighteen years ago) link

Arrrggg, I think this is the place for this. I have two branch managers who have been hassling me and hassling me to create certain reports. However, now I actually have time to do the things - I go to read their requests and they are so vague I don't have a clue what they want. And they've been ignoring my emails where I ask direct questions about what they want.

Well, next time they ask why I haven't created the reports, I'm just going to reforward the questions I asked and still haven't received an answer on. Grrrrrr.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 09:32 (eighteen years ago) link

do they have a phone extension?

ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 09:34 (eighteen years ago) link

I don't have a phone.

Or rather, I had one, but I unplugged it a few weeks ago and have neglected to plug it back in because it was so peaceful without it.

Honestly - I don't do phones, *especially* for report modification. If someone asks me for specific modifications, I want a record of what was requested and by whom.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 09:37 (eighteen years ago) link

I was going to leave the job I'm currently in. I was due to leave this Friday (ie in 2 days). After months of me offering "what if I could do this shit that NEEDS DOING" and being ignored (hence the quitting), I get told a week before I am due to resign "oh hey.. how about you stay and do this month trial of this new role we thought up? Which er... we dont quite know what it is, yet".

ITS THE STUFF IVE SPENT 3 MONTHS SAYING NEEDS F'ING DOING.

So, I agreed. WITH. An email that said, to HR, "I withdraw my resignation BUT this is a provisional 1 month trial pending discusson on what this role actually is" blah blah...

I have not yet had any discussion with said boss as to what they want me to stay FOR. I suspect I'm going to end up office dogsbody in lieu of being on a shift (which they've yoinked my extra shift allowance because of).

I still dont really know why they want to keep me here. I dunno wether to be flattered or shitted off. ARGH.

Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 10:27 (eighteen years ago) link

I've got Stinkyman sitting opposite and The Phantom Carrier of Death Breath somewhere in the vicinity. What's going on?

Are you sure they're not one and the same?

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 11:06 (eighteen years ago) link

OF BLOODY COURSE!!!

I finished the report I mentioned above, and the NITWITS in question of course have come back going "this is wrong!!!" but not providing any examples of what, specifically, is wrong. I felt like writing back and saying OF COURSE IT'S BLOODY WRONG BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T ANSWER ANY OF THE QUESTIONS I ASKED YOU EARLIER.

CNUTS. And I don't mean Danish kings.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 11:20 (eighteen years ago) link

Honestly - I don't do phones, *especially* for report modification. If someone asks me for specific modifications, I want a record of what was requested and by whom.

oh well yeah. it has to be in writing but from my limited experience it's so much better to phone them to tell them to check their emails and remind them rather than sit and wait and be frustrated. oh god yes.

ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 11:23 (eighteen years ago) link

especially since most people at work here are so swamped they have hundreds of emails to go through.

ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 11:24 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm sorry, but I don't have the time and the inclination to ring people to chase them about stuff *they* want me to do for *them*. Especially when I have 40,000 other tasks to do for people who can be bothered to answer their email.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 11:26 (eighteen years ago) link

i guess that's fair in a way. but then it seems like you've wasted your effort of creating that report which caused you much grief that could have been saved that's all!! :)

ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 11:29 (eighteen years ago) link

I don't have the time and the inclination to ring people to chase them about stuff *they* want me to do for *them*.

This has pretty much been my internal monologue all day today. Sadly I don't seem to have a choice :(

Trayce, I hope you get some definite info about the job. Why, if I can ask, did you withdraw your resignation - even temporarily - though? I thought you kind of hated this place?

Archel (Archel), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 11:33 (eighteen years ago) link

I kind of totally hate the place :/ They seem so disorganised! And yet... when they offered me "something better" to stay (ie a job without all tie bits I cant deal with - I was having loads of sick days cos the shift work was fucking with my health), I didnt know what to think.

Everyone's like "hey they're offering you whatever you want to stay!" but on reflection I dunno if thats quite it. They just dont want to lose a qualified, experienced, *knows the company process* ways* person, I think. But my email said "PROVISIONAL MONTH TRIAL" so in a month I may still fuck off. Depends how this pans out I spose.

Hell its a job. And the way the IR laws are about to die and rot here I shouldnt be so fussy :|

Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 11:44 (eighteen years ago) link

Kate, I feel your pain. I am a fellow reporting person. Here is my rant for today - just now I receive an email:

"The business have not received there daily reports from the complaints DB, please can you investigate and have the reports sent ASAP."

Since no-one in "the business" deigned to tell me they wanted to receive any reports today, or indeed on any day, what a fucking surprise, I hadn't turned it on yet. (Background - I'm developing the reports for the new complaints database which to my knowledge hasn't or hadn't until today gone live yet). This whole project has been a total mess. I just hope some of these people leave the company after Centrica sell us off.

Colonel Poo (Colonel Poo), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 11:48 (eighteen years ago) link

There's this person called Kerry at my work. She thinks we are stalking her.


(We are)

feminazi (feminazi), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 11:54 (eighteen years ago) link

Ha ha, we just had a fire alarm, where I explained my predicament to my boss, and she said "well, set a deadline for the answer and tell them - if they don't make it, do the thing to the best of your ability. If they then come back and complain, then put their request back at the bottom of your to-do list"

Paranoid Spice (kate), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 11:54 (eighteen years ago) link

You can also attach a copy of the report "requirements" to the report. When they complain, you can ask them to explain what part of the requirements were not met.

when something smacks of something (dave225.3), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 11:58 (eighteen years ago) link

I've got another report request where I've been asked to give total usage for 2 different products that no-one knows how to tell apart. I've repeatedly emailed the dept that want it asking for some information about the 2 products that might enable me to do the report but they never get back to me. I've just given up on that one.

Colonel Poo (Colonel Poo), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 12:03 (eighteen years ago) link

Hah, that sounds similar to my job.

"Can you write a routine that will update all the records for Type X customers?"

"Um, is there a way to identify Type X customers in the database?" The database, incidentally, is the big contacts database, full of customers, suppliers, even competitors.

"Well, most of them should be flagged with Y. Or maybe Z. Oh, there might be some others, too. And some of the ones flagged with Y aren't customers. Oh, and can you catch all of the Type X customers who had the wrong categorisation entered in the first place?"

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 12:06 (eighteen years ago) link

Ha ha ha, oh god, that sounds nightmarish. The good thing is that with the amount of compliance around here (banking industry) most things are quite well documented. My problem is finding WHERE in the bloody labyrinthine database (especially the legacy Oracle system) that information is actually stored!

Paranoid Spice (kate), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 12:12 (eighteen years ago) link

Yeah that's exactly the type of thing I have to deal with. The customer database is huge and full of data-entry fuckups. I was doing an extract for the SAS team (we use SQL Server for everything but now we're absorbed into EnormoCorp I have to FTP data to the parent company) and I had to put 5 replace functions on the phone_number field cos it was full of :\|, characters, carriage returns, etc.

Colonel Poo (Colonel Poo), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 12:17 (eighteen years ago) link

Oh, and this isn't a proper relational database either, it's a Lotus Notes one. Which means that all the database entries are freeform documents with embedded scripting in two or three different languages.

(neither of which I use - I do as much as I can in Perl using OLE calls to the LotusScript API)

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 12:19 (eighteen years ago) link

Well, our new Pivotal database is surprisingly clean. OK, it should be clean because it's a new system and I'm doing all kinds of checks on it to make sure that the data stays clean - when there are f*ckups, I catch them quickly and we sort them out.

The legacy system, however... problem is it's had too many people working on it, not commenting their code, and it's not just people making data entry errors, but the system itself creating duplicates and dirty data becuase no one knows exactly what bits of it do what. Also, oh yeah, a huge chunk of it (the bit that ran automatic scripts) just... disappeared when we changed systems.

And then people come to me with annoying little complaints going "this isn't like it used to be..." and I want to shout at them THAT'S BECAUSE THE WAY IT USED TO BE WAS TOTALLY AND COMPLETELY FUX0RED!!!!

Paranoid Spice (kate), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 12:21 (eighteen years ago) link

Ah, the fine line between slagging off a colleague who is - I am happy to admit this - utterly useless and slagging off a colleague who is utterly useless while making comments about her poor mental health and/or ethnic origin. What a day this is turning out to be!

Mädchen (Madchen), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 12:26 (eighteen years ago) link

Argh! They've gone and changed the criteria AGAIN. Complaining that pending tickets are included with open tickets when THAT'S HOW IT IS IN THE FUCKING SPEC YOU GAVE ME YOU TWATS.

Colonel Poo (Colonel Poo), Thursday, 20 October 2005 10:47 (eighteen years ago) link

Stinkyman has large sores all over his face. What is this? Is he carrying some killer stink disease? The more i see the guy, the more dirty he appears to be. His hair is like an oil slick, his nails are black with dirt, this is no longer a laughing matter.

Rumpie, Thursday, 20 October 2005 11:05 (eighteen years ago) link

He's a leper, put him in the staff colony.

Chief Egg (alix), Thursday, 20 October 2005 11:20 (eighteen years ago) link

Stinkyman has large sores all over his face. What is this? Is he carrying some killer stink disease? The more i see the guy, the more dirty he appears to be. His hair is like an oil slick, his nails are black with dirt, this is no longer a laughing matter.
-- Rumpie (jenikm...), October 20th, 2005 12:05 PM. (later) (link)

Bleeding in front of your coworkers: C/D?

ken c (ken c), Thursday, 20 October 2005 11:23 (eighteen years ago) link

I have no colony. I can put him in the bee-stro?

Rumpie, Thursday, 20 October 2005 11:24 (eighteen years ago) link

OK, so that's the draw for secret santa done. Please note today's date.

Mädchen (Madchen), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 09:51 (eighteen years ago) link

OK, now Michelle claims to have guessed four people's secret santas already. She is getting all excited.

Mädchen (Madchen), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 09:54 (eighteen years ago) link

oh god i forgot about secret satan. kill me now.

Ste (Fuzzy), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 09:57 (eighteen years ago) link

i have never worked in an office where secret santa takes place.

this makes me realise that i should count my blessings.

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 10:05 (eighteen years ago) link

One of my old bosses used to keep his secret santa gift and pass it on to someone else the following year.

Gifts Secret Santa has given me in the past few years include:
- a key ring with a wee torch on it
- the novel adapted from the screenplay of Spiderman The Movie
- the cheapest most useless socket set in the world
- a Jenga set with tiny slidy plastic blocks
- a Celtic FC calendar which I wasn't allowed to hang up in the office

I should adopt my old boss's strategy.

Onimo (GerryNemo), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 10:20 (eighteen years ago) link

Well I hope I draw Niffy for our Secret Santa - I can pick up a wire brush and some Dettol pretty cheap.

Other 'thoughtful' gifts include: A forest of Magic Trees, a Glade plug in and a cake of carbolic soap.

Rumpie, Wednesday, 26 October 2005 10:48 (eighteen years ago) link

Some departments of our company do secret santa. I wasn't invited to join in last year, even with the department I nominally belong to.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 10:56 (eighteen years ago) link

None of you work in an office where you have to write what you want on a secret santa wish list, do you? I bet none of you are told you have to spend a tenner either. The wish list is up on the wall already, but nobody has written on it yet.

Last year, I got a 3 little jars of Arran Aromatics lip balm, a box of Dairy Milk and a box of liqeur chocolates that were so undoubtedly an unwanted present from last year I almost cringed visibly. 3 lip balms, 2 boxes of chocs. I mean!

This is where you all tell me I'm an ungrateful bitch.

Mädchen (Madchen), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 11:14 (eighteen years ago) link

present from last year the previous year

Mädchen (Madchen), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 11:15 (eighteen years ago) link

Somebody probably spent a lot of time deciding on the perfect gift that really was "You". It's the thought that counts, ya know.

when something smacks of something (dave225.3), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 11:16 (eighteen years ago) link

If you've got spare boxes of chocolates, I'll volunteer to eat them. It's hard, but someone has to.

One of those annoying Forest Pines who never puts weight on (ForestPines), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 11:16 (eighteen years ago) link

Somebody probably spent a lot of time deciding on the perfect gift that really was "You". It's the thought that counts, ya know.

The point of the wish list is to take away all need for thought, innit. I was probably quite stupid by being less specific than they wanted me to be with "something that smells nice; something that tastes nice; something small, simple and silver". Other people wrote down everything except the Argos catalogue number.

Mädchen (Madchen), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 11:24 (eighteen years ago) link

Argh, it's so fucking joyless.

Mädchen (Madchen), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 11:24 (eighteen years ago) link

This year, write £10 on the list.

when something smacks of something (dave225.3), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 11:26 (eighteen years ago) link

it does sound like it misses half of the point of present-buying slightly.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 11:27 (eighteen years ago) link

I think this is a fantastic idea. I'm feeling a bit reckless because my contract is up at the end of December and it won't be renewed so I can merrily burn bridges.

Mädchen (Madchen), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 11:28 (eighteen years ago) link

.... bridges to the worst place on earth. You'd be doing everyone a a favor.

when something smacks of something (dave225.3), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 11:31 (eighteen years ago) link

Last year I bought a "comedy" ceramic ashtray complete with figurine of a charicature rasta smoking a giant spliff. Thinking about it now it might even have been looked somewhat racist. Sex toys seem be the gifts of choice amongst other cow-orkers.

ledge (ledge), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 11:46 (eighteen years ago) link

VIC M4S3D4 is a NINETY THOUSAND dollar a year JACKASS and he SUCKS AT HIS JOB and even though he works from 10pm to 630am he manages to annoy EVERYBODY who works here by spamming the office with his PURPOSEFULLY OBTUSE VERBIAGE complaining about how our procedures and systems all need to be changed to suit him EVEN THOUGH HE NEVER KNOWS WHAT THE FUCK HE'S DOING. FUCK YOU VIC, I JUST SENT EVERYBODY AN EMAIL MAKING FUN OF YOU BEHIND YOUR BACK AND THEN I SENT ANOTHER ONE CALLING YOU OUT IN FRONT OF EVERYBODY BECAUSE YOU WOULDN'T KNOW AN SMTP FLOOD COMING FROM A ZOMBIE LAPTOP IF IT PUNCHED YOU IN THE BOZACK.

TOMBOT, Wednesday, 26 October 2005 11:47 (eighteen years ago) link

Hi my name is v1Ct0r M4s3d*! "Trend analysis" buh buh buh "negatively impacting" buh buh BUH buh buuhhhhh "existing limitations" buh buhbuh buh Buh? buh "why is the only competent member of 3rd shift being cc'd on this email to me" BUH BUH buh buh buh "accountability of pertinent events" buh buh. "Feasible practice" buh buh Buh BUH Buh buh buhbuhbuh buh buh buh.

Thanks,

v1c

TOMBOT, Wednesday, 26 October 2005 11:52 (eighteen years ago) link

NINETY THOUSAND dollars is good jackass money.

Onimo (GerryNemo), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 11:54 (eighteen years ago) link

None of you work in an office where you have to write what you want on a secret santa wish list, do you? I bet none of you are told you have to spend a tenner either. The wish list is up on the wall already, but nobody has written on it yet.

Bloody hell, what sort of insane hellhole do you work in?

RickyT (RickyT), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 11:58 (eighteen years ago) link

An univeristy!

Mädchen (Madchen), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 12:11 (eighteen years ago) link

Secret Bastard Santa. You shouldn't be allowed to choose what you want! You should buy shit and receive shit - it's traditional.

Last year a colleague of mine received STRAW SLIPPERS and a LOOFAH.

Somebody else got a stuffed camel with 'Greetings from Lanazarote' on it.

I was a miserable bitch and didn't even participate.

Rumpie, Wednesday, 26 October 2005 12:30 (eighteen years ago) link

1. Boss asks me to setup a screensaver of pictures of his kid, then asks what a screensaver is

2. Boss just gave me a "warning" for upping my resolution from 800x600 to 1024x768 on a 17" CRT

3. Boss "lost his Outlook" and expects me to fix it

...and I'm a contractor handling hurricane relief fund distribution

salvatóre, Wednesday, 26 October 2005 13:49 (eighteen years ago) link

Delete all pictures of his kid.

Rumpie, Wednesday, 26 October 2005 13:52 (eighteen years ago) link

Photoshop all pictures of his kid.

Mädchen (Madchen), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 13:55 (eighteen years ago) link

Push him into spike-filled pit or lava

TOMBOT, Wednesday, 26 October 2005 13:57 (eighteen years ago) link

bluddy nora. what a cunt.

Ste (Fuzzy), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 13:59 (eighteen years ago) link

guns!!!!!!!!

jdubz (ex machina), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 14:39 (eighteen years ago) link

A couple of cute footnotes.

1. Boss doesn't seem to understand that the whole point of having a database is to make information easily and quickly accessible, so I spend 3-4x as much time making an endlessly redundant paper trail (including multiple stickers, a staple remover and lots of red ink) than I do actually doing real work.

2. Boss has issued edict that no set of papers shall ever have two staples in them. EVER. Need to attach a sheet to the back? Remove the staple and put a new one in. It kind of slows things down when you have 2000 things to staple courtesy of above papertrail policy, and you have to pick each one before stapling one more sheet to the back.

3. We have to PAY for coffee.

My employer shall remain nameless but I will tell you that I work for perhaps the largest labor union in the United States.

salvatóre, Wednesday, 26 October 2005 14:55 (eighteen years ago) link

my coworker does not cover her mouth when she coughs

ai lien (kold_krush), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 14:57 (eighteen years ago) link

she's a superAIDS carrier obv

salvatóre, Wednesday, 26 October 2005 14:58 (eighteen years ago) link

Secret Santas? IT'S OCTOBER.

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 15:13 (eighteen years ago) link

English version: at least 15% of Christmas related activities must begin by the end of november according to the Christ Mass Regression Act 2003

American version: don't you pay attention when you go to Wal-Mart?

salvatóre, Wednesday, 26 October 2005 16:27 (eighteen years ago) link

err october

not as funny when you have to re-edit :(

salvatóre, Wednesday, 26 October 2005 16:36 (eighteen years ago) link

"tina" is a close talker. when standing, she moves closer to speak within a 12 inch range. if you're sitting when she approaches you, she'll remain standing but practically rest her crotch on your shoulder and correspond from above.

nein Socken (nein Socken), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 17:19 (eighteen years ago) link

http://www.cc.gatech.edu/~haro/seinfeld.jpg

n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 17:25 (eighteen years ago) link

ibook/ipod girl (yes, her again) works in pictures. you'd think that by now she'd understand it's CMYK, not fucking CYMK, wouldn't you? i know it's a tiny, tiny thing, but every time i hear her say it, i want to scream.

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Thursday, 27 October 2005 10:13 (eighteen years ago) link

Why don't you just call it 'smick'?

Mädchen (Madchen), Thursday, 27 October 2005 10:17 (eighteen years ago) link

because that would break my twee-ometer. i mean, i already have to cope with people who call a schedule a "schedders", and that makes me want to rip heads off left, right and centre.

aaaargh, someone is now sneezing repeatedly in a really ineffective and wussy way. GAAAAAAAH!

hmm. the problem really is me, not them, isn't it? gah.

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Thursday, 27 October 2005 10:20 (eighteen years ago) link

i love secret santa!! i hope we do one this year. (we did two years ago but not last year)

ken c (ken c), Thursday, 27 October 2005 10:22 (eighteen years ago) link

i heard someone call a schedule a "skehdule" once. wanted to kill him.

ken c (ken c), Thursday, 27 October 2005 10:23 (eighteen years ago) link

according to my oxford language toolkit, the american "sk" pronunciation is now common in britain.

i think i alternate between the two, depending on which day it is. which makes me stupid and annoying, i guess.

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Thursday, 27 October 2005 10:33 (eighteen years ago) link

grimly i told you before, twat her!

not-goodwin (not-goodwin), Thursday, 27 October 2005 10:38 (eighteen years ago) link

I find shedule more of a pain to say because sh and d are at the front of your mouth. Skedule has a nice back-to-front rock.

Mädchen (Madchen), Thursday, 27 October 2005 11:09 (eighteen years ago) link

there's still some idiots here who cannot open the office door properly.

Try pulling the handle DOWN before you push the door open YOU ARE BREAKING IT, CANNOT YOU TELL BY THE LOUD SNAP IT KEEPS MAKING WHEN YOU COME RUSHING IN !?

Ste (Fuzzy), Thursday, 27 October 2005 11:27 (eighteen years ago) link

I’ve heard what’s an attachment too many times.

not-goodwin (not-goodwin), Thursday, 27 October 2005 11:34 (eighteen years ago) link

Every time this guy in work sends me an email he finds a reason to send a document to the printer next to me so he can come and collect it and casually ask "Did you get that email I sent?"

"The one that you obtained delivery and read receipts for?"

"Um..."

"If you get a message that tells you I received and read the email then it means exactly that. I received and read the email."

"I wasn't trying to chase you up about it or anything."

"Good, because it wouldn't have helped your cause."

Onimo (GerryNemo), Thursday, 27 October 2005 11:38 (eighteen years ago) link

"Can I have 5 minutes to discuss subject x? I've been called to a meeting tomorrow with team y to discuss where they're going with it, and so I want to get up to speed on where you think we're going."

"Is 4-ish OK?"

He's currently playing Minesweeper, having just booked his car in for a service. If he wasn't my boss' boss I'd tell him to go fuck himself. (Although there's no way he can come out of this meeting tomorrow without looking like a cunt)

aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Thursday, 27 October 2005 13:02 (eighteen years ago) link

I should have said, this conversation took place at about half past one. He's still playing Minesweeper.

aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Thursday, 27 October 2005 13:21 (eighteen years ago) link

What time is it now?

jdubz (ex machina), Thursday, 27 October 2005 13:27 (eighteen years ago) link

Twenty to four.

Good job I don't have anything better to do than mong about on here otherwise I'd be pissed off by now.

aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Thursday, 27 October 2005 13:38 (eighteen years ago) link

Jan screams, spits and throws a chunk of chewed nectarine across the room. We have a maggot. Other co-workers advise her as follows:

- Phone Asda to complain
- Throw out all the rest of the fruit you bought at the same time
- Never buy fruit from Asda again

Mädchen (Madchen), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 10:35 (eighteen years ago) link

I have no annoying co-workers anymore, I have an office to myself...the boss has been off sick for a month...I'm going slowly mad....

smee (smee), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 10:42 (eighteen years ago) link

you miss your boss that much?

ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 10:46 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm stranded in a tiny office, in a business centre - with no human contact, ANY contact is preferable to this...

smee (smee), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 10:56 (eighteen years ago) link

So what are you doing with us then? :-)

Nathalie, the Queen of Frock 'n' Fall (stevie nixed), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 11:00 (eighteen years ago) link

That's why I'm here! For the first time in ages...

smee (smee), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 11:00 (eighteen years ago) link

- Never buy fruit from Asda again

that is excellent advice.

emsk ( emsk), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 11:00 (eighteen years ago) link

It's excellent advice, but the reasoning behind it is shonky.

Mädchen (Madchen), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 11:13 (eighteen years ago) link

Never buy fruit from Asda again
this could happen in any supermarket.

not-goodwin (not-goodwin), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 11:20 (eighteen years ago) link

I did point out that fruit from your garden is quite likely to contain critters (more likely because it's not pesticided to fuck). I love putting my Mum's raspberries in a sink full of water and watching the worms float to the surface.

Mädchen (Madchen), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 11:43 (eighteen years ago) link

maybe my four-day weekend softened me a bit, but fucking hell the guy who sits next to me is going insane. yesterday's shift was an eight-hour (ok i only stayed six and a half BUT IT FELT LIKE EIGHT) complaining jag, and he's turned his bile on this guy who is really nice and who's a bit lazy, but, you know, so is this dude. at least the guy he's complaining about is competent and doesn't whine every time he can't figure something out right away.

it's getting creepier and creepier to watch this guy's hatred metastize -- he hasn't had to deal with all the other people he's complained about over the past year, so now his anger is focused like a laser on this one dude, and it's ugly, and everyone in the office is just watching in horror.

also he has like 150 (ok that's an exaggeration, it's only 15 or so ... ugh, 'only') t*dd mcf*rl*ne figurines of baseball players on his desk, and he and his roommates -- who he also works with, yet he has a picture of the three of them on his desk, even though when one of them isn't in the office they also turn their complaining rays on each other -- go to the toy store almost twice a week in order to stock up on more.

it's getting to the point where i want to say to him, 'you obviously hate working here since all you do is complain, so why don't you just quit and give your space as a full-timer to someone who actually DOES THEIR JOB CORRECTLY?' (there are a couple of part-timers who are really good at their jobs, but who can't get hired on full-time because of budget considerations ... bah.)

i dunno. somehow, i think that these dudes' crappy diet is at least partially to blame. maybe all that white sugar and white flour and bad cheese (you know, the type the cheapo pizza places use) is like turning into papier-mache in their systems, and their bodies are producing excess bile to compensate.

googleproofed! (maura), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 14:33 (eighteen years ago) link

fattie in front of me comes over to my desk every fucking morning and bangs on the cube as loud as possible and asks "are you awake"....every fucking day. Then she proceeds to laugh like Barney Rubble. one of these days im going to shove a donut in her mouth when she starts.

bingo (Chris V), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 12:59 (eighteen years ago) link

OMG WE HAVE SOMEONE IN OUR OFFICE WHO LAUGHS LIKE BARNEY RUBBLE TOO

Ste (Fuzzy), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 13:37 (eighteen years ago) link

Ugh. I think I would shove something worse than a donut in her mouth. Maybe a shotgun.

My boss is not so much annoying me as putting me in awe of her mighty piss-taking skills. She's doing a part-time MA (as am I) which takes her out of the office for a day a week. She can't afford to take time off though so she's making up the hours by staying late and skipping lunches etc. EXCEPT SHE'S NOT. She usually leaves before me, goes 'just for a coffee' with everyone else at lunchtime, and uses work time to go shopping and to galleries and to do assignments. And I thought I was being a bit cheeky using the odd quiet minute to read a journal article...

Oh and when I was on holiday she dumped a load of stuff out of her office and into my stationery cupboard which is overfull already. Her shelves are now filled almost entirely with personal books. Meanwhile I don't even have my own desk. Grr.

Archel (Archel), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 13:57 (eighteen years ago) link

ok she just came and banged on my desk loud as possible again as im eating lunch. "Hey Chris (holds up can of Campbells soup) look what i got at Wal-Mart for $1.50, its pretty good!"

My response: "Mary, i've had campbells soup before. Yes its pretty good, now if you'll excuse me im eating my fucking lunch."

im el groucho today.

bingo (Chris V), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 17:01 (eighteen years ago) link

oh and i forgot this beaut before the campbells soup announcement.

as she sees me eating my grilled chicken salad.."what kind of chicken is that?"

my response "the one with feathers."

bingo (Chris V), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 17:04 (eighteen years ago) link

you didn't plunk it first? hardcore!

ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 17:35 (eighteen years ago) link

PLUCK even

ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 17:35 (eighteen years ago) link

Fuck!!!!!!!!!!!! This woman has just started in my office, a kind of 70s hippy-dippy type, with a drippy London accent, who is a Buddhist vegan (and never fucking stops going on about it), into fucking reincarnation and rebirth and all that shite and who REFUSES TO LEAVE THE OFFICE AND GO HOME LIKE NORMAL PEOPLE thus depriving me of my Friday opportunity to kick off my shoes and burn some CDs and shit - GO HOME YOU STUPID HIPPY BITCH!!!!!!!!!!!

Oh No, It's Dadaismus (and His Endless Stupid Jokes) (Dada), Friday, 18 November 2005 17:56 (eighteen years ago) link

V1c M4s3d4 finally got himself fired today, I think. Won't know until my boss goes to his bosses and makes sure we can do this. One too many times, you stupid motherfucker. One too many times.

TOMBOT, Friday, 18 November 2005 18:02 (eighteen years ago) link

She's still fucking here!!!!!!!!! What do you want a gold star? Fuck off home!

Oh No, It's Dadaismus (and His Endless Stupid Jokes) (Dada), Friday, 18 November 2005 18:05 (eighteen years ago) link

maybe shes waiting for you to leave so she can get all tantric in the office!

petesmith (plsmith), Friday, 18 November 2005 18:08 (eighteen years ago) link

No wonder China invaded fucking Tibet, fucking Buddhists

Oh No, It's Dadaismus (and His Endless Stupid Jokes) (Dada), Friday, 18 November 2005 18:10 (eighteen years ago) link

the law clerk that i've complained about numerous times upthread was fired on wednesday. i'm actually pretty shocked, this is a state job. phwhoah.

ai lien (kold_krush), Friday, 18 November 2005 19:06 (eighteen years ago) link

This Buddhist woman is doing my nut in, she's so insecure and is constantly apologising and panicking over the slightest little mistake.

Oh No, It's Dadaismus (and His Endless Stupid Jokes) (Dada), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 12:09 (eighteen years ago) link

Sounds like she won't last a week there anyway.

robster (robster), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 12:51 (eighteen years ago) link

Nah, the boss is a hippy too, she's here for the duration

Oh No, It's Dadaismus (and His Endless Stupid Jokes) (Dada), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 12:54 (eighteen years ago) link

jesus my co-workers are having one of those 'i am the most PC' convos ever. currently people who oppose gay marriage 'probably think it's ok to rape their wives' and 'want to bring back stoning witches'.

Theorry Henry (Enrique), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 12:57 (eighteen years ago) link

Last Friday the Buddhist Woman and Steve (another guy who works in the office) are having a conversation...

Buddhist Woman: "I met your brother when I was down at the printers. He's very like you, even his voice."

Steve: "Yeah, he is. We say a lot of the same things too, so whenever I'm out with him I sort of know how he's going to phrase things and express himself."

Buddhist Woman (perfectly seriously): "Well, you see, you might have known each other in a previous life. You might have made a connection in a previous life."

Me: "Couldn't it just be that they're related to one another?"

Steve: "Errrrrrrrrrrr....."

Oh No, It's Dadaismus (and His Endless Stupid Jokes) (Dada), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 13:11 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm beginning to think I'm going to have to start looking for another job.

Oh No, It's Dadaismus (and His Endless Stupid Jokes) (Dada), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 17:18 (eighteen years ago) link

New Printer

James called me to say that he now won't be able to complete the printer networking until tomorrow morning so, in the meantime, I have switched back on the other printer which can now be used until tomorrow!

James also informed me that the printer/scanner/copier tuned into Lucy's computer can not be networked as that model type can only be connected to one machine.

I was thinking of asking James to connect it to the new spare computer (he will complete the installation of this tomorrow!) at the 'hot desk' - any other suggestions?

David


Hi David

Have you got any plans for the computer I’m on at the moment? I’ll be gone in a month anyway ...


Hi Lucy

I think it will probably remain here at PDU (possession is nine tenths of the law!) as one of the assets of the University.

David


Hi David, you thick bastard, do you really think I'd try to walk off with a computer when my contract ends?

Mädchen (Madchen), Thursday, 24 November 2005 14:33 (eighteen years ago) link

Today my boss made me wash all the paper clips in the office. Because they were dirty. IN HER MIND.

They're drying on paper towels in the office bathroom as we speak.

LMN, Thursday, 1 December 2005 21:56 (eighteen years ago) link

noooo! call the men in white coats NOW.

i used to sit opposite a dude with a paperclip collection. i wrote about it here once. fucked if i can find the thread now.

compared to some of the spunkers i've worked with since, he was a godhead.

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Thursday, 1 December 2005 22:22 (eighteen years ago) link

V1ct0r hasn't been fired yet, or even demoted, or transferred to another part of the project. Hence, my new stupid, annoying co-worker is my boss, who is sadly out of his league on this contract but is completely indispensable due to the fact that further "precipitous changes" might "rattle the customer." the words in the quotes are basically verbatim from a senior VP who came to visit us the other day, which was basically a big "Hi what the fuck is the matter with you" to our management.

I'm tired of me and my colleagues getting stuck with tasking on shit that the customer really honestly ought to be doing for themselves. I know it's bullshit to go on about "not in my job description" but why the fuck can't our unit chief do his own goddamned google searches for products? He does next to jack shit otherwise all day.

Very angry. Good night.

............, Thursday, 1 December 2005 23:08 (eighteen years ago) link

Me: "I'm just off to that meeting in Motherw311 now"
Annoying Coworker: "Do you know how to get to L4rkh411?"
Me: "Yes, but that's by the by as I'm going to Moth3rwe11"
AC: "So do you know how to get to Motherw311 J0bc3ntre?"
Me: "Yes, but that's by the by also, since I arranged the meeting for the client's workplace"
AC: "So do you know how to get there?"
Me (muttering): "No, I'm heading down the M74 and hoping I'll end up there by chance"
AC: "What?"
Me: "Yes, I printed off a map and it's in my bag, look, here it is" (notwithstanding the fact I'd been there last week)
AC: "Just checking"
Me (muttering again): "Yes, because I'd head off to a meeting when I have no idea where I'm going"
AC: "Sorry?"
Me: "I'm going to be late, bye" *walks out door, bursts into tears at the frustration of being treated like an imbecile in front of my boss a week before my appraisal*

ai15a (ailsa), Thursday, 1 December 2005 23:49 (eighteen years ago) link

Today my boss made me wash all the paper clips in the office. Because they were dirty. IN HER MIND.
They're drying on paper towels in the office bathroom as we speak.

JESUS H! That is probably the most retarded thing I've ever heard! I mean, how expensive ar paperclips? And so what if they're dirty?

I'm cross because it's my last day of work and my boss won't let me leave till 8pm.

Carl Handwriting (dog latin), Friday, 2 December 2005 18:45 (eighteen years ago) link

"Last day of work" is in the last day of the week or "last day" as in your last day at that job?

Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 2 December 2005 19:42 (eighteen years ago) link

idiot-girl is trying to sort out car insurance. she's just come off the phone to someone - not sure who, maybe her dad.

this is how her side of the conversation went:

"so if i'm doing it online, what do i put where it says 'how many years' no-claims bonus?'"

[pause]

"ohh, right. so you can't just lie about that?"

[pause]

"riiight. that would explain why the last quote was so cheap. i just put '10 years'". [cue much giggling and me approaching homicide level]

also, our fucking server has just gone down. JESUS FUCKING CHRIST.

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 17:31 (eighteen years ago) link

Ooh, it's all going off! The Principal is going to recommend that our faculty moves to the city centre campus. There's been a long consultation and most of the admin staff are vehemently opposed, but academic staff are in favour by a small majority.

Grimly/Stet, I saw your esteemed publication ran a story on this earlier in the week, although it said that a decision was due in January (this was what we thought too but they've decided to let staff know first). Coincidence?

Mädchen (Madchen), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 11:46 (eighteen years ago) link

i doubt it :)

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 11:51 (eighteen years ago) link

ailsa, you a civil servant?

not-goodwin (not-goodwin), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 13:03 (eighteen years ago) link

The office manager has just come running out to tell me how he's emailing the Chinese Embassy about a trading licence and he looks at the word 'licence' but it didn't look right, so he tries 'license' and it doesn't look right either, so he changes it back to 'licence' and it *still* doesn't look right.

I explained the noun/verb thing and told him the trick is to devise a device to help him remember, but he looked pissed off because I didn't take the bait and ask him all about the Important Business of applying for a Chinese trading licence.

Mädchen (Madchen), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 13:25 (eighteen years ago) link

Oh, my tenses have gone to hell. That'll teach me to be snooty about grammar.

Mädchen (Madchen), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 13:26 (eighteen years ago) link

Every time I think the Buddhist Hippy Women is growing on me she does something to really fuck me off - and sometimes I have real problems disguising my annoyance. Why is she so insecure? Why is she so CRAP???? Like spending two hours trying to insert a picture into a word document - A WORD DOCUMENT THAT HAS NO NEED OF A PICTURE, ESPECIALLY NOT THAT ONE, YOU STUPID WOMAN!

We Buy a Hammer For Dadaismus (Dada), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 17:51 (eighteen years ago) link

I now sit next to a gum-popper, for the first time in my life.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 17:55 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm relieved, actually. At first I thought she was flossing.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 17:56 (eighteen years ago) link

... I mean if you can't even understand Word in the year 2005 you should go and worship Buddha in a cave somewhere and leave the rest of us to get on with it (xxpost)

We Buy a Hammer For Dadaismus (Dada), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 17:56 (eighteen years ago) link

devise a device

thass good! i've always used "advice" and "advise" to illustrate the difference, but this is better.

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 17:59 (eighteen years ago) link

Message from a man who knows his math!!

He writes:


I was riding to work yesterday when I observed a female driver cut right in front of a pickup truck, causing him to have to drive on to the shoulder to avoid hitting her. This evidently angered the driver enough that he hung his
arm out his window and gave the woman the finger....

"Man, that guy is stupid," I thought to myself. I ALWAYS smile nicely and wave in a sheepish manner whenever a female does anything to me in traffic, and here's why:

I drive 48 miles each way every day to work. That's 96 miles each day.

Of these, 16 miles each way is bumper-to-bumper.

Most of the bumper-to-bumper is on an 8 lane highway.

There are 7 cars every 40 feet for 32 miles.

That works out to be 982 cars every mile, or 31,424 cars.

Even though the rest of the 32 miles is not bumper-to-bumper, I figure I pass at least another 4000 cars.

That brings the number to something like 36,000 cars that I pass every day.

Statistically, females drive half of these.

That's 18,000 women drivers!

In any given group of females, 1 in 28 has PMS.

That's 642

According to Cosmopolitan, 70% describe their love life as dissatisfying or unrewarding.

That's 449.

According to the National Institute of Health, 22% of all females have seriously considered suicide or homicide.

That's 98.

And 34% describe men as their biggest problem.

That's 33.

According to the National Rifle Association, 5% of all females carry weapons and this number is increasing.

That means that EVERY SINGLE DAY, I drive past at least one female that has a lousy love life, thinks men are her biggest problem, has seriously considered suicide or homicide, has PMS, and is armed.

Give one the finger? ...... I think not.

From my boss. He sends me things like this all the time. He thinks they're funny.

M. White (Miguelito), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 18:01 (eighteen years ago) link

Ha ha, I was talking to the Buddhist Hippy Woman at a do and found that I'd everything I'd conjectured about her background was true - frinstance, I thought she had probably been a punk rocker and that she'd probably gone out/lived with a guy in a band - because, you see, when a 76-78 era punk rocker becomes a hippy it truly is a gruesome thing to behold

We Buy a Hammer For Dadaismus (Dada), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 18:05 (eighteen years ago) link

OFFICE VERSION OF "BENNY"* FROM "L.A. LAW": Yeah, that computer problem was really something. A real P.I.A.
ME: P.I.A.?
OFFICE VERSION OF "BENNY"* FROM "L.A. LAW": P.I.A. "Pain in Rear End."
_________________________________________________________________
* Except ours isn't really retarded. Not completely.

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 18:15 (eighteen years ago) link

Me? I just resent senior staff loosing it about deadlines not being met when
1) Everyone is working their arses off.
and
2) The dealines are not being met because of massive lack of equipment. Which is the responsibility of ...

Anna (Anna), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 18:36 (eighteen years ago) link

Yesterday I was privileged to receive about 30 emails concerning a student charity event which had caused a car park to be closed. Each person who commented after the first mail, which itself was inexplicably sent to EVERYONE WHO WORKS HERE, hit 'reply all', including Estates Management who replied to each individual message saying 'thank you, your message has been forwarded to ________', thus instantly doubling the amount of pointless CRAP clogging up my inbox. Reply all isn't even the fucking DEFAULT! You have consciously CHOSEN to send that to everyone. MORANS.

Archel (Archel), Thursday, 8 December 2005 11:22 (eighteen years ago) link

SACW: This new template is giving us problems.
Me: I don't know anything about it, it's not my responsibility, and I'm webmonging too busy to look at it just now.
SACW: IF YOU'RE NOT PART OF THE SOLUTION YOU'RE PART OF THE PROBLEM!
Me: People don't actually say that in real life, do they?
SACW: Eh?
Me: Oh... nothing you cnut!

Onimo (GerryNemo), Thursday, 8 December 2005 11:48 (eighteen years ago) link

"webmonging" haha

Pashmina (Pashmina), Thursday, 8 December 2005 11:49 (eighteen years ago) link

fatty just banged on the desk again. "YOU AWAKE, YOU BETTER BE."
then she followed it up by screaming into my cube "LUNA...LUNA", im looking at her with this puzzled look like WTF? "LUNA, LUNA DI LUNA!"

ME: "OK mary what are you shouting about?"
Fatty: "LUNA, LUNA DI LUNA?"
ME: "WTF IS THAT?"
FATTY: "That wine i brought in for Kristin a month ago."
Me: "What does that have to do with me being awake?"
Fatty: "Thought you'd want some wine."
Me: "Get away from me, im half asleep."
Fatty: "LUNA, LUNA, LUNA DI LUNA."

At this point i got up and walked away.

slow jamz and white guy indie acoustic shit (Chris V), Thursday, 8 December 2005 12:01 (eighteen years ago) link

inexplicably sent to EVERYONE WHO WORKS HERE

Someone here the other day received a hoax email warning from a customer, and decided she'd better click on "Forward" and "All users". By the time I had a chance to go and moan at her, she'd already received three other complaints about it from senior managers.

spending two hours trying to insert a picture into a word document

The office secretary here often has to insert pictures - company logos, and so on - into Word documents. And she can NEVER remember how to do it. Even though she does it every week or two, EVERY SINGLE TIME she tries to insert it by clicking Open, and then phones me up to say: "I can't open this image! It's just gibberish! Word says it can't convert it to anything"

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Thursday, 8 December 2005 12:08 (eighteen years ago) link

Um. is she retarded or something!? xpost

Trayce (trayce), Thursday, 8 December 2005 12:18 (eighteen years ago) link

..or was it!

Trayce (trayce), Thursday, 8 December 2005 12:19 (eighteen years ago) link

yeah Trayce that comment could fit after pretty much every post to this thread and not seem like an xpost :)

Archel (Archel), Thursday, 8 December 2005 13:08 (eighteen years ago) link

But Chris's coworker does seem to have some er, special issues... for a sec I thought that was luna posting, and the woman was just shouting her name... which only made SLIGHTLY more sense. Wow.

Archel (Archel), Thursday, 8 December 2005 13:10 (eighteen years ago) link

the old guy behind me has been listening to 'who let the dogs out' on his headphones, fairly loudly as well.

Ste (Fuzzy), Thursday, 8 December 2005 13:46 (eighteen years ago) link

I think I like my co-workers

RJG (RJG), Thursday, 8 December 2005 13:47 (eighteen years ago) link

I used to just have to deal with one client, the editor/publisher, but she's been having me deal directly with advertisers more and more the last few months, so I guess I have a lot of sub-clients now. Normally this is fine, it's all billable hours to me, but there's one guy I have to call later today who I'm pretty sure is functionally illiterate. The last two ads he's run, he's called me up and dictated (sort-of) his ad copy, and his occasional emails make Garu G look like William Safire. He emailed me "CALLL ME XXX-XXX-XXXX" two days ago and I've been putting off the misery, but I have to deal with it today.

I do feel guilty for getting any perverse amusement out of it (Rock Hardy), Thursday, 8 December 2005 14:12 (eighteen years ago) link

XPOST: Then here's the thread for you

We Buy a Hammer For Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 8 December 2005 14:17 (eighteen years ago) link

Ha ha, the Buddhist Hippy Woman is constantly going on about how superior, in every possible single fucking department, the Eastern way of life is to what we poor saps have to put up with in the horrible West and now I've just overheard her saying that people in the East's BRAINS ARE DIFFERENT!

We Buy a Hammer For Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 8 December 2005 16:13 (eighteen years ago) link

... i.e. superior, one would imagine

We Buy a Hammer For Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 8 December 2005 16:19 (eighteen years ago) link

why is a man pronouncing 'suit' 'seeyoot' repeatedly making me want to kill kim?

Theorry Henry (Enrique), Thursday, 8 December 2005 16:21 (eighteen years ago) link

idiot girl was remarkably efficient today, and managed to efficiently bollock three piss-poor PRs without losing her temper.

this annoyed me. i hate it when people confound my expectations and make me feel guilty.

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Thursday, 8 December 2005 23:45 (eighteen years ago) link

I think I like my co-workers

yeah, i have one who whistles maybe a bit too much but otherwise i've yet to work with someone (at this job, anyway) who really rubs me the wrong way. that's what the patrons are for!

joseph (joseph), Friday, 9 December 2005 01:12 (eighteen years ago) link

Ha ha, the Buddhist Hippy Woman is constantly going on about how superior, in every possible single fucking department, the Eastern way of life is to what we poor saps have to put up with in the horrible West and now I've just overheard her saying that people in the East's BRAINS ARE DIFFERENT!
-- We Buy a Hammer For Dadaismus (dadaismu...), December 8th, 2005 4:13 PM. (Dada) (later) (link)
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... i.e. superior, one would imagine
-- We Buy a Hammer For Dadaismus (dadaismu...), December 8th, 2005 4:19 PM. (Dada) (later) (link)

but it's true though!

ken c (ken c), Friday, 9 December 2005 10:47 (eighteen years ago) link

Heh, heh. Another thing, she can't fucking understand my accent - that's not very "enlightened" of her is it? I mean it's not like I'm fucking Rab C. Nesbitt or something.

We Buy a Hammer For Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 9 December 2005 10:54 (eighteen years ago) link

Not your type, is he?

Onimo (GerryNemo), Friday, 9 December 2005 10:56 (eighteen years ago) link

How is not understanding someone's accent "unenlightened" as opposed to, you know, just not understanding someone's accent?

ailsa (ailsa), Friday, 9 December 2005 10:59 (eighteen years ago) link

Jesus. Listen ailsa, why don't I just stop posting on ILX altogether and just stick to posting on ILM since I can't post anything without you immediately rubbishing it? Okay, agreed?

We Buy a Hammer For Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 9 December 2005 11:03 (eighteen years ago) link

Jeez, man, keep your wig on! I'm not "rubbishing" you. You posted something, I didn't understand your point, I asked if you could explain. This has happened in two threads over the last two days, maybe because we've both been around the same threads at the same time. I've been posting here for three years, and if you can find a history of this going back that far, please take it off board and email me (though I can assure you it's a coincidence).

ailsa (ailsa), Friday, 9 December 2005 11:07 (eighteen years ago) link

My former boss:
"If the only reason you're here is to get paid, why don't you go see if McDonald's is hiring."
It was a telemarketing place, for Christ's sake.

emilys. (emilys.), Friday, 9 December 2005 11:36 (eighteen years ago) link

because, you see, when a 76-78 era punk rocker becomes a hippy it truly is a gruesome thing to behold

ari up!

thorstein veblen (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 9 December 2005 11:54 (eighteen years ago) link

OK more news re: v1c70R.

When a senior coworker to V1c switched to his shift I assumed she was becoming the new lead so I wouldn't have to include him on e-mails anymore. Wrong. Oops.

V1c has now turned my and 2nd-shift lead St3v3's recent practice of not CC'ing him on every goddamned thing into an HR issue. Oh yes. The story goes, according to him, that we are retaliating against him and shunning him from our discussions because we feel he is responsible for our former manager leaving the contract (a Mr. Ru5H, whom v1c70r filed an ethics complaint against, later discovered to be unfounded but nevertheless enough of a pain in the ass to make Mr. Ru5H renege his promise to stay for at least one full year and take up more worthy employment with a competitor), and he is being unfairly pushed out of his position and his actions are being misrepresented by prejudiced white guys who have an axe to grind.

Meanwhile, our project manager gave V1c a simple task (research and compile feature sets on various content filtering solutions, draw up a comparison chart, and make a recommendation- e.g. Google "enterprise web filter" and open up Word, FFS) and V1c sat on it for a week and then said he couldn't do it. YOU WORK THE FUCKING NIGHT SHIFT. WE GAVE L30L4 THE ENTIRE L*G & **D*T PLAN REWRITE AND SHE GOT IT DONE ON TIME, AND SHE HAD TO LEARN A SHIT-TON OF NEW STUFF ALONG THE WAY. Anyway the result was that S73v3 and I had to write it up and make it pretty in double-time to deliver to the "customer" and NOW, V1c, having been enlightened as to some other old e-mail I didn't cc him on, wants to "get involved" with another project we're working on because he claims it's "one of [his] areas of expertise." Oh go fuck yourself.

V1c, your only area of expertise displayed thus far is bullshitting, stalling, dumping on others and making everyone who works with you hate your fucking guts. And cc'ing senior staff/government officials on internal discussions whenever you don't get your way. You are a perfect business case example of how to be a piece of shit employee. I wish you were just lazy and dumb. Instead, you're lazy, dumb and a huge prick to everyone.

TOMBOT, Friday, 9 December 2005 14:46 (eighteen years ago) link

where do you people work?!

cozen (Cozen), Saturday, 10 December 2005 01:20 (eighteen years ago) link

Tom sells vacuums.

Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 10 December 2005 01:29 (eighteen years ago) link

Lately, one of my cow-orkers seems to have developed some icky cold or chest problem that means he is forever going HORRRRRRK NSRRRTTTTT and horking phlegm and snot into his throat and making REVOLTING NOISES. It is really gross.

Trayce (trayce), Saturday, 10 December 2005 01:30 (eighteen years ago) link

Oh and this is the same guy who loudly farts without apologising, so maybe thats just him.

Trayce (trayce), Saturday, 10 December 2005 01:31 (eighteen years ago) link

Lately, one of my cow-orkers seems to have developed some icky cold or chest problem that means he is forever going HORRRRRRK NSRRRTTTTT and horking phlegm and snot into his throat and making REVOLTING NOISES. It is really gross.
-- Trayce (spamspanke...) (webmail), December 9th, 2005. (trayce)

IN DEFENSE of people like this -- I am one of these people. Allergies or something? we can't help it! i apologize for all my fellow HORRRKK NSRRRSTTTINGers, sorry! we know, girls hate it. we're sorry.

Mickey (modestmickey), Saturday, 10 December 2005 08:42 (eighteen years ago) link

Guys hate it too. Sorry dude.

alext (alext), Saturday, 10 December 2005 11:35 (eighteen years ago) link

From illiterate advertiser:

" pleas see if you can do somthing with the background . The 1st two pic onn the left side of the page delet th e1st pic and keep th e2nd call me"

It's the "do something with the background" that kills me. Sure thing, chief, as soon as you tell me what you don't like about it!

I do feel guilty for getting any perverse amusement out of it (Rock Hardy), Monday, 12 December 2005 16:51 (eighteen years ago) link

Questions I have been asked by the weekend security guy:

"Do you drink? Do drugs? Smoke marijuana?"
"What should I get my nephew for Christmas? I don't think I should get him a Dancing Elmo, I don't want him to grow up gay."
"So did you get drunk on your birthday?"
"Do you have any kids? Are you married? Do you hate men?"

and my least favorite:

"You're so quiet"

tokyo nursery school: afternoon session (rosemary), Monday, 12 December 2005 17:32 (eighteen years ago) link

The Buddhist Hippy Woman again.

Aaaaaarrgghhh, does she have to prattle on endlessly in that stupid hippy dippy voice of hers? Still, at least she achieved some kind of record today, she managed to get to 4.45pm without mentioning Buddhism - then she blew it by going on about going to retreat at New Year and doing "various mystical things to see in the New Year". What's wrong with just getting pissed and trying to snog strangers?

We Buy a Hammer For Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 16 December 2005 16:45 (eighteen years ago) link

" pleas see if you can do somthing with the background . The 1st two pic onn the left side of the page delet th e1st pic and keep th e2nd call me"

if i received this email i'd blow it up to a huge point size and put it on the bulletin board. i'd also reply to it with corrections in red. what is wrong with people?

CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Friday, 16 December 2005 17:00 (eighteen years ago) link

I feel bad for the guy, but that may just be the Stockholm Syndrome talking, or the fact that the ad is done now. He spent several rounds of proofs getting the contents of the ad across to me, and only proofed for spelling on the last round (#7). But I don't feel bad enough for him that I magically enjoy working with him.

I do feel guilty for getting any perverse amusement out of it (Rock Hardy), Friday, 16 December 2005 17:52 (eighteen years ago) link

one month passes...
never again will i moan about idiot girl. compared to two of the SPUNKERS we had in the office today, screeching and giggling and being unable to fucking deal with the simplest of tasks, like - i shit you not - opening an e-mail ... i really can't write any more, because it will become deeply defamatory. and it's not even as if i can mask people's identities, because really: stupidity and annoyingness on this scale is fucking unique.

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Monday, 16 January 2006 19:29 (eighteen years ago) link

Fuck i love this thread. Someday i want to turn this into an illustrated book.

Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 16 January 2006 19:39 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm maybe halfway through reading this thread and it is truly, truly amazing. I love each and every one of you.

I do room service in a hotel that shall remain nameless. All of us restaurant/room service/bar employees, regardless of background and variety of previous employment, are convinced that it is the most deeply mismanaged, problem-ridden, and generally doomed organization of which we've ever been a part. Mostly this leads to "horrible boss" stories which I suppose are not especially germane to the thread topic. One particular consequence of mismanagement, though, is that we keep getting horrible new employees. The reason for this is that HR is actually involved in a power struggle with food-and-beverage, going back over a decade to when the current HR manager and the current F&B manager were coworkers in a completely different manager. Basically, the HR manager is out to destroy us. Her recent suspicion that a F&B "conspiracy" (her words) was involved in suppressing the identity of a potential hire (she was related to someone who already works here, a capital one no-no - never mind that the company keeps FOUR different members of the owners' family on payroll for fictitious jobs) has accelerated this. Therefore, in the last year we have suffered the following string of human disasters:

1. Sexual Harassment Guy. This gentleman was hired because he "worked for Disney!" It's not clear what he did there, maybe put the naughty bits on the cover of the Little Mermaid video box. As a server he was semi-competent, certainly better than our usual, but he tended to creep out the customers by touching them and complimenting their looks overmuch. This eventually extended to coworkers. Most amazingly, he zeroed in on coworker C, who is actually dating coworker T, which is not in any way a secret. His strategy would be to wait until T was not around and say things like, "Hello, C...you know, T is not around today....." Meanwhile, he had about a pound of wax in his hair, which was a completely different form of godawful pompadour every day. Note that despite our company's "zero tolerance" policy on sexual harassment, we had to complain, systematically, for over a month and a half before we could successfully get him written up.....for being late.

2. The Incredible Vanishing Coworker. This guy worked there for exactly one shift, because he found it unworkable with his personal life to come in at 3 - he had a kid to pick up from school or something. Fine, but - he knew that before he started, management had told him that he would have to find a way to be in at 3, there was nothing mysterious about it, but he let me put him through an entire shift of training without simply saying, "Um...yeah, I don't think I can actually work here."

3. Dippy Girl. Much hated at the time for her half-baked flirtation, complete forgetfulness, and unashamed unwillingness to do sidework. Her trademark was asking, with total incredulity, if we had some common food service staple in response to a customer request, eg: "They want mayonaise! I mean, we don't have that, right?" However, we have now erased all record of specific anecdotes of her awfulness, because we recall her reign as a golden age compared to her replacement:

4. Dopey Girl. Almost the epitome of slothfulness, she has taken to sitting down on the job for at least three hours out of her five-hour shift. This is not in the kitchen, mind you: it's at the bar, and, lately, tables in the restaurant, where she spreads out schoolwork she doesn't do and books she may not know how to read. Her voice is the love child of Bullwinkle's and Yogi Bear's, stoned. Her signature move is dropping things; in one Keatonesque feat of physical comedy, she carried a large dinner tray of dirty dishes from the restaurant to the kitchen - with a gradual slide of dishes along the way, so that she embarked with approximately six times as many items as actually reached the kitchen. Now any time anybody drops anything the chorus comes from somewhere beyond the sandwich line "(Dopey Girl's name)!!!" She has also developed a number of evasive maneuvers to avoid doing her sidework, which is fine except that when I get stuck serving I do my sidework and there is an ongoing degree of escalating scrutiny into our sidework competency versus the hated AM shift. Dopey Girl doesn't know this, because she never comes to meetings. In any case, I finally get on her one night about getting the sugar caddies cleaned - this is a night, mind you, where she has spent a full four out of five hours seated at the bar, much of it remarking "I am SO bored" - anyway, she comes at me in a rage which would be terrifying except for the Bullwinkle voice: "Why do you have to be lookin' at what I'm doin' instead of what you're doin'? You're not gonna write me up, are you?" I reply that since I'm not her supervisor yet, I can't. Her: "What do you mean, yet?" Again: she doesn't come to meetings...

5. Lazy Girl. Lazy Girl spends even more time sitting down than Dopey Girl, because Lazy Girl was trained by Third Trimester Pregnant Girl, who before these clowns was by far my most stupid, annoying coworker. We won't dwell on her at present. In any case, Lazy Girl didn't really get the picture that TTPG was able to sit down because of the TTP part. She is an avid reader...of Nora Roberts books - and ONLY Nora Roberts books, a different one each day, which would be impressive except that I'm unconvinced she actually finishes any of them. I am in fact unconvinced she can read at all, or understands what reading is, since when I'm getting my dinner and reading in the back, she likes to sit down and start talking to me, despite all body language, nonresponsiveness, etc. She's also one of these people that likes to worm into interesting conversations only to offer bland, platitudinal observations that kill everything, e.g. "Well, I think it's important to keep an open mind about things!" My first shift with her I launched into an impassioned and deliberately conversation-provoking argument in favor of closed-mindedness, which I would repeat here except it's lengthy, and anyway her only response to the entire thing was "Well, I think it's important to keep an open mind about things!" Lazy Girl is new in town and has been taken under Dopey Girl's wing, which is good in that it kind of isolates them to each other's company and keeps them away from us, but bad in that they reinforce each other's destructive habits and also means we have to hear both of them talking about inane topics that nobody else in the restaurant would entertain with them.

Hmmm - probably enough for now, and that's just within my immediate circle of coworkers - if I got into the kitchen or banquet staff, or god help us the layer of management above me, we could be here for days.

Doctor Casino (Doctor Casino), Monday, 23 January 2006 06:55 (eighteen years ago) link

Those 1200 words are why I don't think I'll be complaining any time soon about the guy who's always quoting Fred Sanford.

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Monday, 23 January 2006 07:49 (eighteen years ago) link

Ugh, I worked for a terrible woman a while back, even though I didn't really work 'for' her (She wasn't even part of the company at all really, she just boinked the boss which somehow gave her authority. Not only that, several times she boinked him ON COMPANY TIME and LOUDLY).

She claimed to possess an IQ of 186, know more about programming than the lead programmer (Apparently she used Visual Basic for a couple of days for an Access thingamy), was apparently able to completly trounce my computer knowledge regardless of the fact I was the one that fixed all her computer problems, and various other things. Of her atrocities I can remember:

- She banged away at her computer for almost half an hour trying to get an image into a Word document before claiming that 'Word wasn't working'. She was hitting 'copy' instead of 'paste', if I remember correctly.

- She emailed me a document and asked me to burn it to a CD, promptly saying "It may not fit on one CD, it took me a whole month to write". It was about 400-500 pages, with no images or anything. It was a little under a meg.

- She constantly opened email attachments and whenever spyware was discovered on her computer, she claimed that someone in the office was trying to spy on her.

- She also claimed that someone in the office was planting listening devices around, with no proof of course, because everyone wanted to know what our company was doing. This company never released or even ALMOST released a product in 2 years, apart from a single 'charity case' which left no impact on anyone.

- She claimed we worked 9 to 6 because we got an hours lunch break, but then the very next day sent around a rude email stating she was sick of people taking hour lunches and half an hour has ALWAYS been the agreed lunch-break. Not only that, a lot of us rarely left before 6:30-7.

- She's also constantly used the "You always disagree with me!" ... "No I don't" ... "SEE?! Stop questioning my authority!" line against the most pushover guy in the office. She tried it against me once, but she couldn't respond to "I only disagree with you when I think you're wrong", even though I muttered "Which is basically all the time" under my breath.

- If anyone was doing ANYTHING she didn't like, she'd say it was against Occupational Health & Safety laws, regardless of the fact that she broke them more often than anyone else. This included making us lift heavy objects (Such as a photocopier so old it should've been in a museum) up a flight of stairs and smoking on the balcony which no-one else was allowed to because it was "against OH&S laws". This became funny when someone actually wise to the specifics of the OH&S came in. She stopped that soon after that.

- In one of the last meetings we had before I left, which was supposed to be a 'voice your concerns about the company without fear of reprisal' thing, she constantly interrupted to contradict people. After she left to have a smoke, several people mentioned that she was the companies main problem, to which the boss agreed.

After I left, she withheld my final paycheque for about a month before she finally agreed on a date and place to meet so I could get it (I wasn't allowed back into the office because apparently I'd steal all the ideas on the project they were working on, which I'd already worked on for about 2 months). She failed to turn up, and on my way to the office (Against her 'orders') I saw her going in with several bags of new clothes, fresh from shopping. She claimed she was "Too busy to do it today", so I had to wait while she went up and got it together.

After that, she told the guys in the office that I "didn't exist anymore". One of the guys emailed me saying "It doesn't matter, since you don't exist if anyone asks I'm talking to myself". He was cool, I miss that guy.

CrankyPuppy (playfulpuppy), Monday, 23 January 2006 13:48 (eighteen years ago) link

Wow, that's amazing - that sounds hauntingly like someone at my last job.

(except that she didn't smoke, and we didn't have a balcony)

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Monday, 23 January 2006 14:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Haha I thought that WAS you posting above for some reason FP.

That sounds horrific, anyway.

Archel (Archel), Monday, 23 January 2006 14:04 (eighteen years ago) link

I don't blame you for thinking it was me, Archel, because when I was reading it I kept thinking: "hang on, this sounds EXACTLY like _____". Right down to the giving-yourself-a-job-because-you're-shagging-the-boss part.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Monday, 23 January 2006 14:20 (eighteen years ago) link

There's a chance it might be the same person, she's (Apparently) worked in quite a few fields.

Of course, it's probably just me hoping that there's only one of that tart on this planet.

SympatheticPuppy (playfulpuppy), Monday, 23 January 2006 14:35 (eighteen years ago) link

I think the worst co-worker I ever had was a REALLY spoiled brat of a bitch who used to have DRAMA phone calls every single work day. She was constantly cursing loudly, much to the discomfort of the secretaries who were within earshot. And, when she spoke to her father on the phone (the benefactor of this woman's lifestyle) she was constantly saying "Shut UP, dad! SHUT UP! I'm not interested. Just send the check." Seriously. This happened almost weekly.

Ugh. I do NOT miss her. At ALL.

Big Loud Mountain Ape (Big Loud Mountain Ape), Monday, 23 January 2006 14:39 (eighteen years ago) link

she's (Apparently) worked in quite a few fields.

She didn't use to be a doctor, did she? Or then try to become a TV producer?

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Monday, 23 January 2006 15:01 (eighteen years ago) link

She didn't use to be a doctor, did she? Or then try to become a TV producer?

Not that I'm aware of, although sounds like the sort of things she'd pull out of her arse.

My god, there's two of them. I demand permission to napalm planet earth, it's for their own good.

PlayfulPuppy (playfulpuppy), Monday, 23 January 2006 15:03 (eighteen years ago) link

Was this link posted upthread? Seems there's a lot of these people around (although none whom I work with thank God)
http://wiki.ehow.com/Deal-With-Impossible-People

ledge (ledge), Monday, 23 January 2006 15:06 (eighteen years ago) link

When I say "try to become a TV producer" I mean "sit around in our office all day sending ridiculously complex gameshow concept ideas to TV executives in the hope of getting an easy job".

She did get invited to meetings with some of them, I have to admit. However, I don't recall her ever getting more than one meeting with any of the important ones. She gave up after about a year, and gave herself a job with our company instead.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Monday, 23 January 2006 15:09 (eighteen years ago) link

Seeing as FP and Puppy live in different countries its not likely ;)

But I can attest all of Pup's stories as true, having lived thru them with the poor lad and having met this insane woman myself several times.

Outside of work she was even more mental. She clearly has some kind of psychological issues - the whole time at a bar we were all at she flicked her hair back in this exaggerated "I am attractive" manner, and namedropped a tonne of important govt type people simply because I'd said I used to work at the foreign office. She is a fscking psycho.

Trayce (trayce), Monday, 23 January 2006 21:34 (eighteen years ago) link

To: constant foot-tapping Kansas-listening no-eye-contact engineer guy

Stop giving parties. Just....stop. They aren't fun. They are painful, sitting around your house with the "no alcohol" rule and trying to pry interesting conversation out of your surly teenagers and other no-eye-contact or social skills engineer-type co-workers. This is why the more-normal and certainly more interesting people don't come to your house, even when you invite us all ONCE A MONTH! And don't come in my office with your Excel spreadsheet of invitees and declinees and who's bringing what and ask me bake something EVEN THOUGH I LIED TO YOUR FACE AND SAID WE WERE GOING OUT OF TOWN!!!

Jaq (Jaq), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 23:19 (eighteen years ago) link

Woah. I have only been to a coworker's house for a party ONCE, thank god. And that was someone I liked!

I am currently pissed off with the IT people because the printer in our lab has run out of toner and they haven't got any in stock.
'But we did tell you it was running out like a week ago.'
'Oh yeah, well we don't bother coming out to change toner until someone actually, you know, complains about it'.
'Riggghhht...'

Ladies and gentlemen, the customer service ethos at work.

So we have a department full of students who can't print for the next few DAYS, at least one of whom had all her printing credit used up on 20 pages of illegible greyness.

Archel (Archel), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 09:19 (eighteen years ago) link

See, you would think they'd at least keep one spare in stock.

Mind you, it *is* hard, because it's expensive stuff. Unless you standardise on one model of printer, you're stuck with having a few hundred quid of spare toner stock. And that means buying all your printers at the same time, because the slightest change in model number seems to mean buying an entirely different toner cartridge.

I've started tracking the number of pages every printer prints every day. Originally because one of our managers hugely overestimates* the amount of printing he does, when it comes to costing up the IT budget. It's very handy, though, to be able to say "we can hold off on buying toner for the Model X, because none of those printers are going to run out for at least six months".

* I'm being charitable - "lies" would be a better word.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 11:02 (eighteen years ago) link

Well, I didn't even mind that they didn't have it in stock, we're the same here really. But when we phoned them to say it was running out, THEN they should have ordered it.

Archel (Archel), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 11:04 (eighteen years ago) link

Posted earlier on Uk Watercooler:

I am getting fed up with office politics and sleight-of-hand regarding new equipment. One of our department managers thinks she is getting a new server. What is *actually* happening - and has been approved by one of the directors, who is her husband - is that we are buying a new server for head office, and her office is getting the now-spare one freed up. If noone says anything she won't know the difference - but if she *asks* if this really is the new one, I'm a bit stuck as to what to say.

But the *worst* part is that she is trying to blackmail me into doing the job early, because otherwise everything in their department will go horribly wrong.

We are a temping agency. Every week, each office has to spend hours typing in timesheets, so that the payroll can be sent out on time. Payroll deadline for the branches is Friday, or at the *very* latest mid-morning Monday, because the transfer orders have to be with the bank by mid-afternoon Monday.

Today, my manager has a meeting with the responsible director (annoying manager's husband), and they agree that the server switch at her branch will go ahead next Wednesday. They phone her up during the meeting, and tell her this. I'm not there at the time, though.

Immediately, she calls me. "Your manager is already aware about this, but because our clients have changed their shift pattern it now takes us twice as long to get their payroll done."

"Yes...?"

"This new server is coming on Monday, isn't it?"

"No, nobody has ever said that. The new server is still being built. We have not yet been given a definite delivery date, and Monday has never been mentioned as a possible delivery date."

"Well, I'm sure someone said that to me. Unless we get this new server on Monday, we won't be able to finish the payroll in time next week."

Grrrrr. Does she think that my boss isn't going to tell me what she's already been told?

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 11:19 (eighteen years ago) link

Ack. If you tell her your line manager has already projected Wednesday and refer her back to him if she's unhappy about that, the blackmail will end and she'll have to fight with her husband into the bargain, and tough shit if she doesn't like getting caught trying to adjust behind his back. Her job is to get the payroll out NO MATTER WHAT by a certain time regardless of other bullshit, so she has to prepare to suck it up and be professional about handling a bit of 'crunch time'.

suzy (suzy), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 11:26 (eighteen years ago) link

Well, at the time I didn't know about the actual plans. After putting the phone down, I went to see my manager about it; and he told me what we're actually doing.

A previous conversation I've had:

Her immediate underling: "Unless we get faster computers, we just can't get the payroll done on time."

Me: "Has the payroll ever been late because of computer problems?"

Her: "Um ... well, no."

(who was it who said, about court proceedings, "never ask a question unless you already know the answer")

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 11:29 (eighteen years ago) link

Some people are very good at hearing what they want to hear. If they need something by a certain time, that miraculously becomes the time they were promised it. It's just a way of trying to seem in control while also avoiding any responsibility. (Not that this makes any more fun for you.)

Archel (Archel), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 11:33 (eighteen years ago) link

I have only been to a coworker's house for a party ONCE

This party business is something I didn't count on, moving here. But seems to be an expected thing in this small town where everyone works at the same place. The problem with lying (saying we're out of town) is the very real possibility of running into someone. So we'll be hiding out. We're well stocked for food and entertainment. This situation does point up how desparately we need to move back to a city though.

Jaq (Jaq), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 15:30 (eighteen years ago) link

v1Ct0r's getting transferred off site!
v1Ct0r's getting transferred off site!
v1Ct0r's getting transferred off site!
v1Ct0r's getting transferred off site!
v1Ct0r's getting transferred off site!

[ /glee]

(this is step one to see-ya-later status for that son of a bitch. He yelled at the rest of the night shift last week. And his usual shenanigans, but that was the kicker, I think.)

(He's apparently infamous, some engineers came in to do an upgrade on one of our terrifically expensive systems, noticed his firstinitial+lastname in the user list and were like "oh dude, that guy sucks!" with stories and everything. Plus apparently one of OUR engineers who we hired post-v1c70r has mentioned that on an old contract where they both were working v1c70r had to be escorted off by govt personnel. Real winner this dude! Check some goddamned references ppl!)

TOMBOT, Monday, 30 January 2006 19:37 (eighteen years ago) link

it is winter. there was a frost this morning. so why have you opened the windows?

koogs (koogs), Thursday, 9 February 2006 09:44 (eighteen years ago) link

BECAUSE THE HEATING IS TURNED UP WAY TOO HIGH AND IT'S STUFFY AND STINKY IN HERE AND I CAN'T BREATHE AND IT SMELLS GOOD OUTSIDE.

emsk ( emsk), Thursday, 9 February 2006 09:51 (eighteen years ago) link

(or perhaps they did a fart and were trying to hide it.)

emsk ( emsk), Thursday, 9 February 2006 09:51 (eighteen years ago) link

the heating isn't turned up way too high because i went around last week and turned all the radiators down to sensible levels (sensible, that is, until someone opens the windows and lets the artic weather in). pity i can't do the same thing for the scalding hot water that comes out of the tap in the kitchen.

you may have a point about stinky though. but that is because their waste paper baskets are full of yesterday's thai curry and last week's teabags (they don't seem to believe in binliners of any kind so whilst the contents are removed on a weekly basis, the bins themselves are pretty skanky).

koogs (koogs), Thursday, 9 February 2006 10:00 (eighteen years ago) link

maybe they just wanted to let the air in. i dunno, i'm a big fan of open windows, sleep with open windows even through winter etc etc.

emsk ( emsk), Thursday, 9 February 2006 10:29 (eighteen years ago) link

I've kept mum on this thread but I think I hate my job now and I'm drunk so let's open fire!

accounts guy: SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP!!!!! fucking endlessly, loudly, droning on about poker or novelty songs or sports (which YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND) or anything just to hear yourself talk, jesus. and you are obese and pungent and if you keep drinking entire 1.5 litre bottles of coke every day you will be dead by 30 or less. you repulse me.

tech support guy: you are the most useless cunt on this earth. I understand you have a disability of some sort, but when it means you IGNORE any request unless you are followed up and sheperded through it and have your hand held, so that it takes a month for a simple swapping of e-mail access from one PC to another... words fucking fail me, except for "you are the most useless cunt on this earth", obviously, that sums up the situation pretty succinctly.

marketing girl: you seem quite a nice person but your propensity for shifting work onto other people, specifically the over-stress head of department downstairs, is wearing very thin very quickly.

head of company: a good bloke, but on here since I found out about the jaw-dropping double-standards he displayed on a certain matter.

it has been a very long day, shoot me pls. (haitch), Thursday, 9 February 2006 12:32 (eighteen years ago) link

I realize this is a very stupid, trivial thing to be annoyed by but there this one woman where I've been working lately who seems unable to left her feet when she walks. It's fucked up. I've watched her shuffle her way around the office for 2 weeks now and for some reason I'm getting annoyed by it! The constant sound of her shoes dragging across the carpet...
skuff-skuff skuff-skuff SKUFF-SKUFF SKUFF-SKUFF SKUFF-SKUFF skuff-skuff
LIFT UP YOUR GODDAMN FEET YOU FREAK

Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 9 February 2006 15:07 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm currently being bugged by some moron in the Fraud department who is completely incapable of getting ANYTHING right EVER.

Previous examples have included complaining that a report I set up to automatically email him a spreadsheet each week was blank, when he was looking at the wrong sheet, TWO WEEKS IN A ROW.

Today he emailed me 3 times and then requested I call him regarding several reports which I told him I have never heard of and have nothing to do with, the first time he emailed me about them.

Now he has asked me to change the email address on another report (which by some chance I do actually produce) to some garbled version of what I assume was the address he's asking me to change it to. I was tempted to change it to sjdhfdhjk.com like he asked so I could say "but that's what you asked it to be" when he complains he hasn't received it, but that would be a little too petty.

Luckily he doesn't work in this office so I don't have to put up with him in person.

Colonel Poo (Colonel Poo), Thursday, 9 February 2006 15:09 (eighteen years ago) link

Thermo, doesn't she have terrible problems with static shocks?

Markelby (Mark C), Thursday, 9 February 2006 15:20 (eighteen years ago) link

I was wondering about that because I see no evidence of it!
Maybe it's all building up and when she finally touches the wrong thing the entire 17th floor is going to get blown out!

Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 9 February 2006 15:35 (eighteen years ago) link

i almost got electrocuted at work today. not anybody else's fault, tho.

hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 9 February 2006 15:40 (eighteen years ago) link

Not a coworker, but some fault detection thing in the alarm system is emitting an ear-piercing beep every two seconds. It has been doing it for two hours and shows no sign of stopping. Oh! It stopped! Oh fucktits it's back again.

Archel (Archel), Thursday, 9 February 2006 15:48 (eighteen years ago) link

dumb ass peanut gallery two cubes over have been cackling for an HOUR about the hysterical nigerian spam email they just received as though it was the newest thing on earth. Complete with comedy foreign accents that sounded more east indian than nigerian, but whatever.

kyle (akmonday), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 21:44 (eighteen years ago) link

I sometimes get people at my work going OMG and forwarding something in email that's 100 years old in internet-years, and so I, being the cunty humourless spoilsport I am, direct them to snopes or whatever and deflate their amusement. I am mean.

Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 23:09 (eighteen years ago) link

the honeymoon period is over

RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 23:11 (eighteen years ago) link

Today in work, we were talking about the smoking ban in Scotland and the fact, reported in the papers, that artists at T in the Park weren't going to be allowed to smoke backstage. The resident smart-arse was holding forth about how The Who were pulling out of their headlining slot because Entwistle wasn't allowed to smoke. I interjected with the fact that maybe Entwistle wouldn't care that much, given that he's been dead for three and half years.

Resident Smart-Arse "No, he isn't dead."
Me: "yes, he is. That might be why he isn't playing T in the Park"
RS-A: "He's not dead"
Me: Yes, he is. He died in a hotel room in Vegas. It involved drugs and hookers."
RS-A: "You're thinking of that guy from Big Country"
Me: "No, really, I'm not."
RS-A: "You're too young to even know who the Who are, you must be getting confused"
Me: ***bangs head off desk, googles report of John Entwistle's death, shows it to RS-A, waits for apology, doesn't get one, looks for other job***

ailsa (ailsa), Thursday, 23 February 2006 00:34 (eighteen years ago) link

Later on, people were talking about the football. We were talking about Henrik Larsson and Giovanni van Bronckhorst playing for Barcelona against Chelsea.

RS-A: "They won't be playing, they're rubbish"
Me: "Yes, that's why Barcelona signed them"
RS-A: "Barcelona are good, they don't need players from Scotland"
Me: "Yes, that's why they signed them, because they don't need them. I presume they play them for laughs as well"
RS-A: "Yes, but Larsson's missed loads of games for Barcelona"
Me: "Aye, he was injured. He's still in the first team squad now though"
RS-A: (floundering for arguments) "yes, but ironically they didn't even sign van Bronckhorst from Rangers, they signed him from Arsenal. What does *that* tell you?"
Me: "Er, that you don't know the meaning of the word "ironic", perhaps?"
RS-A: ***finds something else important to do elsewhere***

ailsa (ailsa), Thursday, 23 February 2006 00:42 (eighteen years ago) link

These stories translate really badly in the re-telling. This same guy once tried to tell me that my local pub wasn't really where I said it was, and that the bus I get home every night doesn't really go past my house, just because he doesn't like people to know anything about something he thinks he is the sole expert on - which he was before I started working there and he wasn't the only person from this area anymore - point being, he's found things other people in the office don't know much about, e.g. the area in which I live, bands that haven't been in the charts in the last five years, football, etc, and has built himself a reputation as an expert on these things based on confident bullshitting. Now someone has come along who can challenge him, yet he still persists with the bullshit in case I go "oh, sorry, you're right, silly me, what was I thinking, daring to *know* stuff about things"... (also, he's been there for years, I've been there about five minutes, so people have got used to thinking he is the brain of Britain, and I think I might be resented for daring to challenge the clever bloke with the shocking concept that he might not actually be right all the time)

ailsa (ailsa), Thursday, 23 February 2006 00:54 (eighteen years ago) link

hahaha we have one like that here, he's the accounts guy I refer to upthread with the advice "SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP!!!!!".

destroye's noobies (haitch), Thursday, 23 February 2006 00:57 (eighteen years ago) link

(also, I know Entwistle's only been dead for two and a half years, I was thinking other thoughts whilst typing)

ailsa (ailsa), Thursday, 23 February 2006 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

(no, it's three and a half years, I just can't count. I was right earlier, anyway, he's dead, so my point still stands)

ailsa (ailsa), Thursday, 23 February 2006 01:01 (eighteen years ago) link

Oh gods Ails, I know just the kind of wanker you mean - my first job in Melbourne when I moved there was a guy who liked to think he was a similar knowitall, and also strangely liked to argue black was white for no clear reason.

One time, he said aloud "why's it called the WestGate Bridge anyway? It isnt even in the west".

It is, and he then spent ten minutes arguing with me that it, and the whole inner western suburbs, was actually north. Jesus.

He also used to eat the entire loaf of bread bought by the morning tea club that was meant to be shared among about 10 people. He claimed it was because he was poor and going without meals, even though he was on the same salary as the rest of us and also a single man living in a cheaparse flat.

Trayce (trayce), Thursday, 23 February 2006 01:39 (eighteen years ago) link

I meant to post this earlier, but since I'm here, a note to the woman who sits across the aisle from me:

DON'T FUCKING TALK WITH YOUR MOUTH FULL. It's disgusting and no one can understand a word you're saying.

Thank you, goodnight.

The Milkmaid (of human kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 23 February 2006 03:05 (eighteen years ago) link

Man, now I feel bad. She's nice. She just has this unbearable habit of conducting complete conversations with her mouth constantly full of food. Not just a little bit full -- totally completely stuffed with food. I can't even look at it.

The Milkmaid (of human kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 23 February 2006 03:12 (eighteen years ago) link

God, resident smartarses are the worst. I feel for you ailsa (though that Who thing is quite funny haha).

And I wonder how someone can actually reach adulthood without learning that talking with your mouth full is rude and disgusting. I mean, did this woman not have parents?

Archel (Archel), Thursday, 23 February 2006 09:35 (eighteen years ago) link

dear Trev,
it's not actually compulsory to join into everybody elses conversation in the office. You ARE allowed, believe it or not, to get on with your own work and let other people discuss subjects that don't involve you.

thanks

ps. also not everything you say has to be witty, again it's not compulsory. might be worth just going over in your head the things you're about to say too, you know, is it really that funny? will people roll about laughing? here's a simple rule - "if in doubt, leave it out"

Ste (Fuzzy), Thursday, 23 February 2006 11:22 (eighteen years ago) link

I'll wager a fair amount that quite a few ILXors *are* the resident smart-arses in their offices. I think I probably am.

Markelby (Mark C), Thursday, 23 February 2006 11:31 (eighteen years ago) link

I wondered that too. About me, I mean, not you...

beanz (beanz), Thursday, 23 February 2006 11:35 (eighteen years ago) link

I definitely am.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Thursday, 23 February 2006 11:43 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm not. Thing is, I reckon that most of the ILX smartarses would at least be RIGHT. I know FP would ;)

Archel (Archel), Thursday, 23 February 2006 11:49 (eighteen years ago) link

i'm a smartass in the office when it comes to movies and video games, but anything else i'll stay out of.

Ste (Fuzzy), Thursday, 23 February 2006 11:52 (eighteen years ago) link

oh and trev, when you eat an apple, try and eat a bit more of it, what's with the three bites and then bin thing you got going there?

Ste (Fuzzy), Thursday, 23 February 2006 11:56 (eighteen years ago) link

Dear coworker,

I know you said you would be 'making up the hours' that you are away at your classes, rather than giving up a day's pay as I have been. I can't help but notice, YOU ARE NOT MAKING UP THE HOURS. I like you but I fear I am not going to be able to quell my resentment that you are NOT MAKING UP THE HOURS.

That is all,

Archel (Archel), Thursday, 23 February 2006 12:00 (eighteen years ago) link

I have to admit, I am one of those annoying people who will not let things drop when they know they are right.

Such as: an argument with an annoying manager known (but not to his face) as "ginger tosser". He said: when you send a copy of our price list, you should send the PDF version and not the Word version, so that they can't change it at the other end.

I said: Yes, very sensible, although of course it only matters when you email it - if you're faxing it there's no difference.

But this tosser insisted that there was a difference between faxing a Word document and a PDF, and that if you faxed a Word document to someone they would be able to edit it after receipt. Tosser.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Thursday, 23 February 2006 12:15 (eighteen years ago) link

The really annoying thing was: we were having the "discussion" in front of his staff, who were all "i think S. knows what he's talking about - he's worked here much longer than you"

I did say: "if you like, I can fax you a Word document and you can *show me* how to edit it afterwards." His reply was just: "I know you can"

(I did, later, bring this up again in front of my boss and his boss, knowing that my boss, at least, would treat him with laughter and derision)

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Thursday, 23 February 2006 12:21 (eighteen years ago) link

People who don't understand faxes are funny. "I'VE PRESSED SEND FIVE TIMES AND IT'S STILL HERE!"

Anyway, J who sits right opposite me, if you want to know if a job is done just ask me instead of emailing me and CCing it to everyone who doesn't give a shit. I've taken to hitting "Reply to all" and signing off with "Gerry, 5 feet from J..."

Onimo (GerryNemo), Thursday, 23 February 2006 12:30 (eighteen years ago) link

the apple thing, haha!!

RJG (RJG), Thursday, 23 February 2006 12:43 (eighteen years ago) link

haha in the police officer episode of People Like Us, they are getting another HQ to 'fax over some blank paper' because they've run out.

Archel (Archel), Thursday, 23 February 2006 13:32 (eighteen years ago) link

Hey you. Yeah, you, you microwave hogging, queue jumping cnut. Could you PLEASE make sure that you are in the kitchen when your microwave ends so that maybe other people in the company can use it, too?

Oh yeah, and don't leave sodding fish all over the sodding kitchen - some of us are allergic to that shit.

Boris and the Johnsons (kate), Thursday, 23 February 2006 13:45 (eighteen years ago) link

When I open e-mails from female co-workers in other departments who I don't know very well so I think it's Take Back the Night info or something and it's a stupid slideshow of beefcake photos, some with photoshopped Santa hats if it's around Christmas-time.

jocelyn (Jocelyn), Thursday, 23 February 2006 13:56 (eighteen years ago) link

But this tosser insisted that there was a difference between faxing a Word document and a PDF, and that if you faxed a Word document to someone they would be able to edit it after receipt. Tosser.

*collapses larfing* thats insane FP! Now I see why you thought PlayfulPuppy's menko old boss was your boss too ;)

Trayce (trayce), Friday, 24 February 2006 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

ooh! i finally get to contribute! the first post of this thread always makes me laugh. i don't work full-time, but at my campus job, there's this one guy who asks me out every time I work with him (which, luckily, isn't every shift; he's very fun to work with but it's kind of annoying to have to repeat rejection so many times, really makes me feel like a bitch). recently he got a girlfriend and i was like "oh yay now we can stop being all awkward!" so last time i saw him, he mentioned his girlfriend in conversation twice and then asked me out again! argh. poor girlfriend.

Maria (Maria), Friday, 24 February 2006 03:35 (eighteen years ago) link

ok, when you're peeved that the '100 funniest moments', ended too late, at 12.30pm, you may as well just call it quits and do yourself in right here. i really wouldn't mind.

The Man Without Shadow (Enrique), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 12:39 (eighteen years ago) link

I have found out that the reason I'm getting all the phonecalls to the training department bouncing to my phone is because the admin girl there is deliberately logging out of the phone system, so that she only gets personal calls who call her directly rather than, you know, answer the customer enquiries that she is being employed to do.

armalite roffle (haitch), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 13:04 (eighteen years ago) link

let's quickly sidetrack the thread for a sec: how would you approach a problem like this? because I have basically had my fill of incompetence from certain people at this organisation. I just think that a) it's appallingly unprofessional and b) it's me who is having my own work disrupted. apparently the management know about it though and haven't done anything?? going and confronting person in question off my own bat, otoh, seems pointless.

armalite roffle (haitch), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 13:21 (eighteen years ago) link

Are you 100% sure that it IS her job to answer these calls? If so, check that management more than 'apparently' know about by speaking to them yourself. Or specifically to her line manager.

Why is it pointless confronting her yourself? Is she a difficult character?

Archel (Archel), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 13:35 (eighteen years ago) link

I'd blind transfer the calls back to her direct extension.

zaxxon25 (zaxxon25), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 13:39 (eighteen years ago) link

Good idea.

Archel (Archel), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 13:41 (eighteen years ago) link

What about a vaguer comment to a manager/tech person about how there seems to be a problem with the phone system?

Markelby (Mark C), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 13:44 (eighteen years ago) link

Open a formal problem report with the administrator of the phone system. "For some reason, all of the training calls are coming to me..? There must be something wrong with the system." Wasting the administrator's time looking into a problem that is caused by someone not doing her job will go a lot farther than you complaining that you have extra calls to answer.

xpost

Dave will do (dave225.3), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 13:49 (eighteen years ago) link

haha, comments that "there's a problem with the phone system" was how she got found out in the first place!

archel: it's definitely her job. "pointless" - I get the feeling that I would be ignored whereas a manager wouldn't be.

armalite roffle (haitch), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 13:53 (eighteen years ago) link

Tell her conspiratorially that you don't want her to get into trouble so she'd better fix it before Top Brass come round?

beanz (beanz), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 14:00 (eighteen years ago) link

i have a co-worker with an unbearable laugh which pops up after he tells vaguely sexist jokes. he looks like tv's frank.

mookieproof (mookieproof), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 15:12 (eighteen years ago) link

My co-worker is not Catholic, but she is doing (doing?) Lent. She is not Jewish, but she insisted that my place of business put up a Menorah in the lobby with the XMAS trees. She also had one on her desk. She also has a Buddha statue on her desk. She wears a red ribbon on her wrist to ward off evil eye (It doesn't work, I'd know!).

She really irritates me.

ai lien (kold_krush), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 22:58 (eighteen years ago) link

Draw an evil eye on your hand and keep waving to her.

Onimo (GerryNemo), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 23:04 (eighteen years ago) link

http://www.gm.tv/media/images/david_blane_main.jpg

Onimo (GerryNemo), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 23:05 (eighteen years ago) link

hmmm...ye-e-esssss...

ai lien (kold_krush), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 23:06 (eighteen years ago) link

ai lien - maybe she's hedging her bets for the afterlife! ;D

Trayce (trayce), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 23:40 (eighteen years ago) link

And haitch: if its any comfort at all, a guy on my old helpdesk at Conn3ct used to pull a similar trick: we were all logged into the helpdesk call pool, but when a call hit his phone, he'd immediately xfer it back to the wait queue. It thus looked like he was still taking calls, so no one twigged for some time, until the stats showed all his calls were 1-2 seconds in length.

He was frogmarched out of the building and fired not long after that.

Trayce (trayce), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 23:41 (eighteen years ago) link

three things i DON'T want to know about:

yr baby's sportswear
yr baby's poo
yr baby's penis

The Man Without Shadow (Enrique), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 12:37 (eighteen years ago) link

Oh God, the endless debate over the rights and wrongs of having a toaster upstairs when downstrairs toaster was removed after upstairs person made toast downstairs and set all the fire alarms off. Followed by the debate over who from upstairs is to blame for thos e downstairs knowing we still have a toaster. Jesus, three months ago everyone was all about giving up wheat.

Anna (Anna), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 13:37 (eighteen years ago) link

oof, i just got ZINGED.

i work with a dire, racist new zealander; it was pointed out that when our cuntwit colleague ****** leaves i will be the only male in the department. and she cam back 'more like the only girl', presumably because of my slender build and dynamic cheekbones and non-kiwi ways.

The Man Without Shadow (Enrique), Thursday, 2 March 2006 15:35 (eighteen years ago) link

not from me, but from a friend of mine:

So part of my job is posting finished real estate transactions on a dry-erase board for everyone to see. I do it after I have reviewed the contracts and approved the sale, but some people CAN'T FUCKING WAIT for me to approve the sales, so they write it on the board themselves, which they're not supposed to do.

So this morning, I saw this one sale on the board written in red ink. I promptly erased it, expecting the lady to come in and complain, at which point I would explain to her that I write the names on the board, not her.

Five minutes ago, in she comes.

Her: "Did you erase 999 Fuckmyass Rd. from the board?!"

Me: "Yes, I did. My boss told me that we don't write sales on the board until he and I approve them."

Her: "Well, don't ever do that again. I write my sales in Red on the board, because it symbolizes the blood of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. Without Him, none of us would be able to sell real estate."

Me: *stunned*

wangdangsweetpentangle (teenagequiet), Thursday, 2 March 2006 15:39 (eighteen years ago) link

She was kidding, right? Right...?

Archel (Archel), Thursday, 2 March 2006 15:41 (eighteen years ago) link

"I write sales in black which signifies the devil, who is behind all capitalism. Check."

Dave will do (dave225.3), Thursday, 2 March 2006 15:44 (eighteen years ago) link

If I ask you what your arbitrary, made-up column title on your matrix means when you want me to tell you what should go against it, it means I DON'T KNOW. Saying "it's the column that used to be other arbitrary, unhelpful, made-up title" like I'm supposed to know what that was SINCE IT'S YOUR MATRIX AND YOU OBVIOUSLY CAN'T EXPLAIN IT EITHER doesn't make it any clearer.

aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Thursday, 2 March 2006 15:48 (eighteen years ago) link

(.. after long discussion about planning & days)
CW: how does 3 + 3 = 5?
Me: because I'm using logic, not formulas. Starting on May 3 + 3 days of work means it finishes on May 5. It's *inclusive.*
CW: I think you have your methodology mixed up.

methinks: You are on a totally different plane.

Dave will do (dave225.3), Thursday, 2 March 2006 16:02 (eighteen years ago) link

one month passes...
Constant foot-tapping Kansas-listening no-eye-contact deadly-party-throwing engineer guy from upthread is now MY OFFICE MATE. Truly, this is the point of no return.

Jaq (Jaq), Monday, 10 April 2006 23:55 (eighteen years ago) link

one month passes...
Quote from the director this morning: "The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the tyranny of numpties"

Mädchen (Madchen), Monday, 15 May 2006 10:03 (seventeen years ago) link

Leave work on my chair instead of in the inbox? Fuck you you fuckin' fuck.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, 15 May 2006 12:16 (seventeen years ago) link

My chair is my inbox :/

Markelby (Mark C), Monday, 15 May 2006 12:19 (seventeen years ago) link

please send me no more chain emails of soldiers in iraq holding puppies that say 'break this chain and you will suffer tonight'. you cretins.

Ste (Fuzzy), Monday, 15 May 2006 14:41 (seventeen years ago) link

FUCK THAT HSTENCIL GUY

electro-acoustic lycanthrope (orion), Monday, 15 May 2006 18:08 (seventeen years ago) link

oh, you're-fired-paws

hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 15 May 2006 18:09 (seventeen years ago) link

"have you ever seen a picture of the solar system? don't you think it's weird how the water on earth just doesn't fall out?'

tokyo nursery school: afternoon session (rosemary), Monday, 15 May 2006 19:08 (seventeen years ago) link

"i can't help swearing, it's the way I was brought up."

tokyo nursery school: afternoon session (rosemary), Monday, 15 May 2006 19:10 (seventeen years ago) link

"Ugh, Indian people. They all smell."

tokyo nursery school: afternoon session (rosemary), Monday, 15 May 2006 19:11 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't even understand the 1st one?

Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 15 May 2006 20:04 (seventeen years ago) link

"He won't like that. Change it to something dull"
"Shouldn't we let him not like it first? I think he'll like it"
"No. Something dull."

stet (stet), Monday, 15 May 2006 20:08 (seventeen years ago) link

HAHAHAHAHAH o god, no, really? no. i'm so glad i'm not there tonight.

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Monday, 15 May 2006 20:39 (seventeen years ago) link

FAMILY GUY QUOTES ALL DAY

city of gyros (chaki), Monday, 15 May 2006 21:21 (seventeen years ago) link

SERIOUSLY THIS HSTENCIL GUY CAN"T MAKE UP HIS MIND ABOUT WHAT TO LISTEN TO!!!!

electro-acoustic lycanthrope (orion), Monday, 15 May 2006 21:30 (seventeen years ago) link

hpencil changed songs. (June Is Finally Here - Don Caballero)
hpencil changed songs. (My Home Is The Sea - Matt Sweeny & Bonnie Pr)
hpencil changed songs. (Esoterica of Abyssynia - Sun City Girls)
hpencil changed songs. (Stuck On You - Rose Tattoo)
hpencil changed songs. (Venus In The Morning - Mayo Thompson)
hpencil changed songs. (sleeping is the only love - Silver Jews)
hpencil changed songs. (A Child's Lullaby - Philip Lynott)
hpencil changed songs. (God's Song (That's Why I Love Mankind) - Ran)
hpencil changed songs. (Instant Archaeology - Sun City Girls)
hpencil changed songs. (Think About Me - Fleetwood Mac)
hpencil changed songs. (Goat And Ram - Matt Sweeny & Bonnie Prince
hpencil changed songs. (Emerald - Thin Lizzy)
hpencil changed songs. (emerald - Thin Lizzy)
hpencil changed songs. (Without Epression - Terry Reid)
hpencil changed songs. (Lost Love Blues (unissued alternate take #2))
hpencil changed songs. (I Have Always Been Here Before - Roky Ericks)
hpencil changed songs. (punks in the beerlight - Silver Jews)
hpencil changed songs. (Stevie (For Steven S.) - Royal Trux)

JW (ex machina), Monday, 15 May 2006 21:34 (seventeen years ago) link

my co-workers are finding the hypothetical name 'mike hunt' hilarious right now. they've never heard this amazing joke ever before.

the confusing situation Enrique currently endures (Enrique), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 12:13 (seventeen years ago) link

have they heard mike omicallyunderdevelopedsenseofhumor?

teeny (teeny), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 12:37 (seventeen years ago) link

my new team leader fell asleep in a meeting with a government client!! thank god it wasn't a meeting for one of my projects, he was good enough to stay awake for those.

lil' merzbow wow (haitch), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 12:43 (seventeen years ago) link

also the senior programmer basically went on a one-man crusade today to make alterations to the company style guide, which has been in service for several years without complaint, and which he won't ever need to use because he's a programmer.

lil' merzbow wow (haitch), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 12:46 (seventeen years ago) link

whereas the six people in the organisation who actually create content will have to go through and manually change every occurence of what he wants changed through company documentation and what-not.

oh and now I remember my story about the admin girl who won't answer her phone. I spoke to my old team leader, who went and spoke to the area manager, who then got in a fight with two other managers for 'leaking information' to me!! when it was another manager entirely who tipped us off to the slackarse's ways in the first place.

lil' merzbow wow (haitch), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 12:52 (seventeen years ago) link

YOUR DREAMS BORE ME

Enrique IX: The Mediator (Enrique), Thursday, 18 May 2006 11:36 (seventeen years ago) link

Conversation between my boss and me this morning.

Boss “have you seen The Da Vinci code?”
Me “Erm no, i haven't read the book either”
Boss “it’s .......”
Me “like I say, I haven’t seen it”
Boss “oh, sorry.”
Me “right! I’m just going downstairs”

not-goodwin (not-goodwin), Monday, 22 May 2006 09:38 (seventeen years ago) link

thankfully, and even in an office as large as mine, there hasn't been one discussion about the da vinci code movie/book yet.

Ste (Fuzzy), Monday, 22 May 2006 09:47 (seventeen years ago) link

Bloody hell the co-worker is being annoying right now. He keeps singing fragments of songs, and shouting out nonsense phrases - anyone would think he had Tourettes.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Monday, 22 May 2006 10:12 (seventeen years ago) link

a) singing "Oh, what a breast!" about once a minute
b) humming the main riff from War of the Worlds
c) reading out random phrases from the website he's working on.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Monday, 22 May 2006 10:14 (seventeen years ago) link

d) whistling the theme tune from Steptoe And Son (badly)

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Monday, 22 May 2006 10:29 (seventeen years ago) link

One sharp blow to his temple will stop him annoying you forest!

not-goodwin (not-goodwin), Monday, 22 May 2006 10:46 (seventeen years ago) link

i'm probably a pretty annoying co-worker. i have larry david-esque levels of interest in other people's lives, and basically spend the day occasionally roffling at ilx.

Enrique IX: The Mediator (Enrique), Monday, 22 May 2006 10:48 (seventeen years ago) link

Another annoying thing about Big Dave: his lunch breaks. Everyone here gets an hour for lunch. Everyone either sits at their desk eating (and surfing the web in some cases, including me), or goes out for an hour. Dave, on the other hand, goes out of the building for 75 minutes or so - and *then* comes back and eats his lunch at his desk.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Monday, 22 May 2006 12:27 (seventeen years ago) link

Erm, i do this, but i eat it before i go to soak up the beer. No one complains though as they usually come with me.

not-goodwin (not-goodwin), Monday, 22 May 2006 13:59 (seventeen years ago) link

HALF AN HOUR, PEOPLE.

teh_kit has 21 friends (g-kit), Monday, 22 May 2006 14:01 (seventeen years ago) link

This dumb scrunt sitting across from me has gone to lunch and left her computer on with the lite/smooth-'jazz' station playing loud enough for me to hear through my headphones.

I think I am about to accidentally kick her power cord out of the wall.

Big Dave is having an affair.

Tracey Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 22 May 2006 17:06 (seventeen years ago) link

I know he's definitely seeing someone in his lunch breaks - it's hardly an affair, though, because he's not seeing anyone else.

Today, he's alternating between singing The Birdie Song and whispering "oooh bloody nora! ya little monkey!" in a "comedy old man" voice.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 07:54 (seventeen years ago) link

Forest; ask him why on earth he’s singing the birdie song.

Everybody’s annoying me today.

not-goodwin (not-goodwin), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 08:16 (seventeen years ago) link

I have two preggers coworkers, so our lunch hours are spent discussing constipation, throwing up, and the pains of labour.

Sarah McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 12:41 (seventeen years ago) link

The worst. Any comment asking them not to discuss clearly means you hate all kids and other women, correct?

A good policy for new mums returning to work, I feel, is to PRETEND that there is a person in the office who cannot have kids for biological reasons, and IMAGINE what it would be like to be considerate to that person. That way you do not annoy other women in the office by ducking out of responsibilities with the OH MY BABY excuse (this happened at the last non-magazine office I worked at).

suzy (suzy), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 12:49 (seventeen years ago) link

Can’t believe my boss, she’s done it again (see Conversation between my boss and me this morning upthread)

Boss “have you seen XMen 3?”
Me “I’m going tonight”
Boss, tells me more than I’d like to know.
Me “like I say, I haven’t seen it”
Boss “I’ve done it again haven’t i?”
Me “yes!”

not-goodwin (not-goodwin), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 08:47 (seventeen years ago) link

fwiw, it's a hard movie to ruin, since it comes pre-ruined.
new team leader came in with 10 years' writing and editing experience and launching a redesigned website on his cv. turns out he was, in fact, totally fucking useless in front of a computer (a bit of a problem when it's an IT company!) and couldn't follow the simplest instructions to save himself. he handed in his notice after SIX DAYS!! god I was furious, since it was me who he kept asking to cover his own incompetence.

lil' merzbow wow (haitch), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 11:52 (seventeen years ago) link

My supe just complained to me about her daughter in law, who she accused of trying to 'ruin' her seven year old grandson because 'she would make him a sissy if she could, she's so bad.' Her crime? She wants to teach him to make sure his clothes match.
My workmate called me Maggie Thatcher, and Iron Lady, several times y'day. He also said "shut up mum!" to me.

I think I'm being the annoying coworker at the moment :/

Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 02:11 (seventeen years ago) link

Raise the fucker's poll tax.

Keywords: revenge, knife, granddaughter, demonic-possession, rock-star, eel (Aus, Wednesday, 31 May 2006 02:32 (seventeen years ago) link

Hahaha :D

Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 02:45 (seventeen years ago) link

"ducking out of responsibilities with the OH MY BABY excuse"

And even worse is the "here I am at work but I have BABY BRAIN so I cannot think straight or get anything done" excuse. I don't get to use "I have DIDNT GET ANY SLEEP AT THE WEEKEND BRAIN so I cannot think straight or get anything done" as an excuse and I really don't see the difference.

isadora (isadora), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 23:01 (seventeen years ago) link

RIGHT THATS IT. You may be my best friend, but I wont let that prevent me from being pissed off at you when you act like a whiny little martyr. Dammit, stop making everything such a fucking DRAMA, I have to WORK with you! And try and stay FRIENDS somehow!

/furiousfedupcranky

Trayce (trayce), Thursday, 1 June 2006 02:01 (seventeen years ago) link

Conversation with co-worker: "Can you fix [this webpage i'm working on], the form doesn't work and I can't see any problems with it"

Me: "Yes, there are two very obvious problems. One, you've done [blah blah blah], the same mistake that you made last time you had to ask me for help with this. Two, you've missed out a closing quote mark on one of the tags on the page. Look, it works now I've fixed it."

(wait ten minutes)

Co-worker: "It still doesn't work."

Me: "It did after I fixed it." *click on View Source* "no, because you've just re-uploaded your broken version and overwritten the one I fixed."

To myself: grrrrrrrr

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Thursday, 1 June 2006 08:51 (seventeen years ago) link

'And even worse is the "here I am at work but I have BABY BRAIN so I cannot think straight or get anything done" excuse.'

So true. My boss has been using this excuse since she announced she was pregnant. She's not even HAD the baby yet......

indolent girl (indolent girl), Thursday, 1 June 2006 09:09 (seventeen years ago) link

three weeks pass...
OMG, the new gal in the department is a Perfect Storm of homicidally annoying tics.

"Thank you SO much." (Anytime anyone does anything.)

"I'm sorry for interrupting." (When you're doing nothing but breathing.)

"Bub-bye" at the end of every phone call.

Uses max number of words in discussing the simplest concepts.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 23 June 2006 16:43 (seventeen years ago) link

DAN BROWN

Werner Herzog Netflix Quine (ex machina), Friday, 23 June 2006 16:58 (seventeen years ago) link

My co-temp has asked me for the second time today what we are supposed to do with this task we have been assigned. It is an absurdly simple task, with one easy step. The first time she asked me what we are to do with it was, no exaggeration, less than 30 seconds after it had been given and explained to us.

I cannot tell you how repugnant I find it that we are apparently considered equally competent and valuable by the temp agency.

100% CHAMPS with a Yes! Attitude. (Austin, Still), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 17:33 (seventeen years ago) link

Our development assistant and accounting assistant have spent the entire morning calling bakeries to find a good cake for the development assistant husband's birthday. They called in our Communications Director to assist, and she suggested Whole Foods. The accounting assistant said she wouldn't want a cake from there because it would be "all healthy stuff" with "no fat in it." I would have called her a dumbass, but she probably wouldn't hear me over the smooth jazz she listens to every day.

jxnx (jxnx), Thursday, 6 July 2006 14:13 (seventeen years ago) link

"Thank you SO much." (Anytime anyone does anything.)

"I'm sorry for interrupting." (When you're doing nothing but breathing.)

"Bub-bye" at the end of every phone call.

woah, dude, this is called manners! if this bothers you, you need to relax.

teh_kit has 22 friends (g-kit), Thursday, 6 July 2006 14:16 (seventeen years ago) link

"Bub-bye" at the end of every phone call.

I do this, so do most Britishers. G-kit OTM.

Earwig oh! (Mark C), Thursday, 6 July 2006 14:39 (seventeen years ago) link

Jesus, stupid fucking fucks! Who am I anyway, Rab C Fuckin' Nesbitt? My accent's not that strong that i have to speak like Andy fuckin' Gray to be understood, is it? You live in London, TRY GETTING USED TO OTHER ACCENTS, you lazy ignorant fucks!!!!!

¡Vamos a matar, Dadaismus! (Dada), Friday, 7 July 2006 15:22 (seventeen years ago) link

What the hell did you just say?

Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 7 July 2006 16:49 (seventeen years ago) link

The Texan Ralph Wiggum, my co-temp, referring to some paper files that we're dealing with: "Are these in alphabetical order?"

I am not EVEN fucking kidding here.

100% CHAMPS with a Yes! Attitude. (Austin, Still), Wednesday, 12 July 2006 14:05 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't even know who I'm annoyed at right now.

Technician came in earlier, left a pile of CDs on my desk and said 'can you phone S4ndie [tutor] and tell her her CDs are ready?' I phone S4ndie; she's left for the day. An hour or so later, I get a call from S4ndra [another tutor] saying 'where are the CDs I asked for?' 'Oh haha' I go, 'the technician said S4ndie'. S4ndra doesn't sound very happy, comes to collect CDs. Picks them up and reads post-it attached to the pile. 'But these SAY S4ndra on!!!!' she says accusingly and does her 'I'm the most important person ever, how dare you make me wait for things' stare at me. At which point I want to say, so fucking what if they do, all I was doing was exactly what the technician told me to do and why he couldn't make his own phone calls in the first place I don't know, nor is it my job to decipher his post-it notes.

Archel (Archel), Thursday, 20 July 2006 15:28 (seventeen years ago) link

Archel, you should have burst into tears, TOTALLY guilted her out and blamed your hormones. Take advantage of your condition while you can!

Mädchen (Madchen), Thursday, 20 July 2006 15:33 (seventeen years ago) link

Haha yeah. To be honest nobody's brain seems to be working in this heat anyway.

Archel (Archel), Thursday, 20 July 2006 15:36 (seventeen years ago) link

Technician came in earlier, left a pile of CDs on my desk and said 'can you phone S4ndie [tutor] and tell her her CDs are ready?'

Technician = surely he can operate a phone?

Tracey Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 20 July 2006 15:37 (seventeen years ago) link

You who have waited for BT needs to ask this question?

suzy (suzy), Thursday, 20 July 2006 22:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Trashy coworker #1: (tells long, sorrowful stories about how fucked up her sons are -- jailtime, drug addiction, etc)

Trashy coworker #2: (shortly afterward) I'm worried about my son, he's such a bully. I mean, maybe he's just aggressive, but he beats all the other kids up all the time.

Trashy coworker #1: OHHH don't worry about that, that's how my boys were.

killy (baby lenin pin), Thursday, 20 July 2006 23:05 (seventeen years ago) link

HAHAHA oh dear!

Trayce (trayce), Thursday, 20 July 2006 23:40 (seventeen years ago) link

Okay, now you take your crayon and put it on the dot. Then you draw a line to the next dot, then the next one, then the next one. And that's how you connect dots!

100% CHAMPS with a Yes! Attitude. (Austin, Still), Friday, 21 July 2006 00:29 (seventeen years ago) link

my new team leader fell asleep in a meeting with a government client!! thank god it wasn't a meeting for one of my projects, he was good enough to stay awake for those.

haha, I got this dude sacked, sort of!

HPSTRKRFT (haitch), Friday, 21 July 2006 00:37 (seventeen years ago) link

i share an office with a dude who looks at super-violent videos online all day, every day. he'll punctuate every grisly event with 'i hate people' or 'people are stupid' or 'those people should be shot', etc. he's a slow burner. there are whispers that he's going to be fired. they tell me, 'he needs to go', when for my own safety i hope they give him a raise and a stay-at-home job.

gear (gear), Friday, 21 July 2006 00:39 (seventeen years ago) link

this is my favorite thread ever. luckily, i've even forgotten some of the middle posts (if i ever read them - but i must have! it's my favorite!) so i get the joy all over again.

Maria (Maria), Friday, 21 July 2006 01:17 (seventeen years ago) link

The heat and the hormones have now started to make me REALLY cranky, so certain arrogant co-workers better just stay out of my face today. But currently I'm getting annoyed by people who ask me for directions and then cut me off and wander away while I'm (kindly, as it's not exactly my job) telling them where to go. Why ASK if you're quite happy to stay fucking lost?

Archel (Archel), Friday, 21 July 2006 09:04 (seventeen years ago) link

no, it was not jean-paul sartre who said 'i think therefore i am'.

Roughage Crew (Enrique), Friday, 21 July 2006 11:31 (seventeen years ago) link

We're working our arses off to get the current project sorted and working on time (hint: we're not going to make it). Our manager has a long list of things he needs to do - but rather than delegate anything downwards, he has barricaded himself in his office, with the list, for the last week, and has been downloading bootleg Dixie Chicks albums off Usenet. The consultant we have hired in to be in charge of the project itself is pretty mild-mannered, but very nearly started shouting at him this morning when she found out that he hadn't done half of the jobs, and hadn't passed any of them on to more suitable people.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Friday, 21 July 2006 11:34 (seventeen years ago) link

Argh, I used to work for a chronic non-delegator who would keep all the documents relating to our festivals on his person and then insist on attending every event so that if we had another peformer waiting outside to be, say, paid, it was impossible for any of the rest of us to do anything about it without bodily dragging him out of the audience.

Archel (Archel), Friday, 21 July 2006 11:46 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh god this sucks. I am the only person staffing the centre right now as two co-workers are off today and the remaining one is at lunch and I NEED TO WEE ALL THE TIME BECAUSE IT'S HOT AND I'M PREGNANT but I can't leave.

Archel (Archel), Friday, 21 July 2006 11:50 (seventeen years ago) link

Ahahahaha this is the last straw! All day there's been a vague rumour of a leaving party for a group of students but nobody had officially told me about it or asked for anything so I decided that the tutors had obviously arranged everything themselves and I wouldn't be needed. Five minutes ago - ie five mins before the party - they came and asked me if I had any cups or plates. I unearthed about 30 paper cups from a previous party and then they said, 'no we need real ones, about 60'. What? Are you mad? This is an OFFICE! Do you think I can produce 60 glasses and 60 china plates without any notice? Am I a caterer suddenly?

Archel (Archel), Friday, 21 July 2006 12:07 (seventeen years ago) link

It gets worse! They found some chilled white wine in my fridge and have swapped it for their warm stuff, without asking! But OF COURSE they don't have a corkscrew!

Archel (Archel), Friday, 21 July 2006 12:09 (seventeen years ago) link

What if that were a special bottle??

Archel this sux :(

don't be afraid to just say "no, I'm sorry" tho

Tracey Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 21 July 2006 12:14 (seventeen years ago) link

I did say no this time. Possibly I even shouted it.

Archel (Archel), Friday, 21 July 2006 12:17 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm getting mad just listening to this!

Machibuse '80 (ex machina), Friday, 21 July 2006 12:21 (seventeen years ago) link

yay!

xpost

Tracey Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 21 July 2006 12:23 (seventeen years ago) link

you need to tell them to stop being twats and start thinking. with their brains.

teh_kit is jayne without the tits (g-kit), Friday, 21 July 2006 12:24 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't really have that many annoying coworkers but I do have a desk that is positioned right outside the doors of two big shots with private offices. There is the assumption that I am one of their personal assistants or coworkers. Basically every day I have my work interrupted by one of the following: undergraduates looking for internships, high school students looking to brown nose admission, delivery people, repair people, administrative douchebags from other departments, hordes of school teachers looking to meet about student teachers. I don't even work *with* the people whose offices I sit outside or do anything remotely related to their jobs and everyone wandering in act like I should be wiping their ass nd running along to get "my boss's" calendar to pencil them in. Fuck you@!!!!!!!

Just yesterday, I was coding with headphones on when something made me turn around and there were like 14 middle aged teachers their asking if I knew when OFFICEDUDE would be back in. They were laughing nervously quite a bit so I imagine they had been talking to my back for a bit of time.

Machibuse '80 (ex machina), Friday, 21 July 2006 12:32 (seventeen years ago) link

Okay so the manager of the local division of my company (also my aunt) is TOTAL HYPOCHONDRIAC.

Things she has claimed to have:
Mumps
Allergy to tomatoes (despite eating them all the time - basically every time she gets sick off Bloody Marys she is suddenly allergic)
Crohn's Disease
Strep throat at least 4 times THIS SUMMER

ugh this is all I can think of but she is allegedly sick all the time, hospitals now refuse to give her medicine, she has completely fucked her immune system by taking WAY too many antibiotics, AND IF SHE TALKS ABOUT BEING SICK ONE MORE TIME I WILL SNAP.

Jessie the Monster (scarymonsterrr), Friday, 21 July 2006 14:35 (seventeen years ago) link

I don’t have a problem with annoying co-workers, just stupid ones.

Coworker: So what did you go to college for? Art something?
Me: Art history.
Coworker: What is that? Can you get a job with that?
Me: Well… (thinking: HOW CAN I EXPLAIN THIS SO SHE CAN UNDERSTAND), for instance, if I had a master’s degree I could be a curator.
Coworker: What’s a curator?

killy (baby lenin pin), Friday, 21 July 2006 15:37 (seventeen years ago) link

can i just point out that the girl i moaned about a lot upthread has actually revealed herself to be quite wonderful at times? she's been on holiday for two weeks and it's been fucking hellish; i can't wait for her to come back. she's head and shoulders above most of the rest of her desk colleagues.

there. an official apology. now i'm going to go before i start ranting about other ppl.

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Friday, 21 July 2006 22:22 (seventeen years ago) link

Archel, that really, really sucks.

The only thing I have to complain about regarding my day at work today was that someone who must have stayed in late last night decided to play around with the office's printer settings, to where this morning none of the office computers were able to print to our shared printer. We had to get in our IT people to fix things around to where our computers could recognize the printers again. This ate up a good hour of our work time, and none of us were even allowed to go anywhere. But it's ok. They'll be able to figure out who did it by the end of this weekend. And our office has glorious air conditioning, so I'm not as bad off as some of the rest of you.

Phoenix Dancing (krushsister), Saturday, 22 July 2006 00:00 (seventeen years ago) link

one month passes...
i'd find it odd if anyone brought their parents into work. just odd, no?

but really, lots odder when YOU STOPPED WORKING HERE THREE MONTHS AGO!!!

a rapper singing about hos and bitches and money (Enrique), Monday, 4 September 2006 13:05 (seventeen years ago) link

you say odd, i say classic.

i am teh_kit! (g-kit), Monday, 4 September 2006 13:07 (seventeen years ago) link

QED

a rapper singing about hos and bitches and money (Enrique), Monday, 4 September 2006 13:09 (seventeen years ago) link

the other two members of my team have turned an email newsletter that used to take me or someone else a couple of hours of work (on and off) on a friday to put together, into a two-day drama that they STILL cannot get right, despite me: a) editing the mistakes that cropped up every week out of it while they watched, thinking in vain that they might twig that I am removing mistakes; b) making a checklist that told them step by step exactly what to do; and c) me losing patience with them last friday and pointing out in idiot style that they should "do it like this, make sure you delete this" etc. jesus effing christ!!

genital hyphys (haitch), Monday, 4 September 2006 13:23 (seventeen years ago) link

Sorry, long rant ahoy:

Ugh. Co-worker who is also good friend is so stressed and in a state he's turned into a bitter complaining machine that frankly, I don't like being around anymore which considering hes my best friend is really quite upsetting.

Last week I had to ask whoever on our NOC was on call over the weekend that an installation was going to be done they needed to be aware of. Now it is normally policy never to do weekend installations, due to there only being an on call engineer. But this was an extreme exception and I made it really REALLY clear I would never normally ask, but this time I had ZERO choice. If it'd been any of the other engineers, they'd have said "sure, thanks for letting me know" and just done the job.

But no not this guy. He bitches at me for 10 mins on the Friday, how dare I ask him to do this, it will waste his weekend waiting around for the guy to call etc etc. I'm like "um dude, you're ON CALL - you're SUPPOSED TO GET CALLS IT IS YOUR JOB". FFS. When I did his job, I did plenty of out of hours installs even though I wasnt supposed to.

Whine whine ok I'll do it but I'm NOT HAPPY martyr martyr. I assure him that at least Im sure the guy wont call til well after lunch, probably after 2pm so all is ok.

On the Saturday at about 3pm he phones me at home to bitch even more viciously at me because the installer hasn't called him yet. "I've wasted my WHOLE SATURDAY waiting for this guy". he whined.

SO I said "um, I told you he wasnt gonna call till after lunch and he has to page you anyway so its not like you have to drop everything - its not my fault you chose to sit around waiting. What do you want me to do about this?".

I had amassive headache and I Didnt Give a Shit.

Oh and the icing on the cake? The install ended up going ahead fine. Not that he bothered to update me to let me know all went well after all his pissing and moaning.

It is not a nice feeling, being fed up and pissed off at a good friend :(

Trayce (trayce), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 00:24 (seventeen years ago) link

ooh ooh, can I go again?? we take on journalism and media students for a day a week. they help us with news sourcing and posting, we let them write longer feature articles and get published on our sites so they've got something for their folio. it's win-win, usually. the latest one, though, is SO USELESS that we actually have to spend the time we'd hoped to save editing his poor grammar and total lack of formatting nous. the feature he turned in has been rewritten that extensively that it shouldn't have his name on it!

genital hyphys (haitch), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 05:02 (seventeen years ago) link

How's he been passing his exams/essay hand-ins at uni, geez?!

Trayce (trayce), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 05:40 (seventeen years ago) link

total mystery. god knows what the "unsuitable candidates" were like!!

genital hyphys (haitch), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 05:58 (seventeen years ago) link

We once had a branch manager whose grammer and spelling was so bad, he was completely unable to write readable memos. Any memos my boss received from him got sent down to me for interpretation first. His writing skills were so bad, I seriously wondered how he had ever managed to get any office jobs in the first place. He was a recruitment consultant, and if he had received an application letter from himself he would have binned it immediately for being barely readable.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 07:23 (seventeen years ago) link

Isn’t there a thread on smelly co-workers?

Anyway, there’s a lad on my team who insists on have the overhead fan on all the time. This in its self isn’t a problem; it’s the fact that he smells like trench foot and the fan wafts his stench about is. I have mentioned it to my team leader and she said it’s been noticed and the rest of the team are aware of his odour as well and that we should just see if his personal hygiene improves. I told her I wasn’t happy with this, as I am unable to eat or snack at my desk because of the smell. I was told I would have to put up with it until something could be done.

Am I being unfair on this person by complaining?

not-goodwin (not-goodwin), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 09:04 (seventeen years ago) link

i seem to remember that thread being a bit scary.

i am teh_kit! (g-kit), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 09:11 (seventeen years ago) link

hehe

Onimo (GerryNemo), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 09:13 (seventeen years ago) link

you're a very bad mang.

i am teh_kit! (g-kit), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 09:24 (seventeen years ago) link

cf also:

Smelly Colleagues
Stinkers

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 09:26 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh no, Alba, not my misuse of 'epicentre' again! Every so often I'll be doing the ironing or something and I'll think about that thread and cringe all over again. More than five years later!

Mädchen (Madchen), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 11:26 (seventeen years ago) link

Aaaarrrggghhh! wtf, shut up shut up shut up, you don't know shit about Sumer/Babylon/whateverthefuck. Oh god can I survive the next week without killing you? Hahahahahahaha I will never have to think about your toxic barbeque "parties" ever AGAIN! You cross-eyed matted-haired lazy-assed stamp-collecting Kansas-listening fart machine!

/ rant

whew thanks.

Jaq (Jaq), Thursday, 14 September 2006 21:00 (seventeen years ago) link

You cross-eyed matted-haired lazy-assed stamp-collecting Kansas-listening fart machine!

Wow, GROSS.

Danny Aioli (Rock Hardy), Thursday, 14 September 2006 21:06 (seventeen years ago) link

I have a co-worker that's an annoying Texan stoner who skips out whenever there's anything to do around here, leaving everyone else to pick up the slack. Of course, his presence is more annoying than his absence. He's like a real-life Jim Anchower.

mucho (mucho), Friday, 15 September 2006 23:39 (seventeen years ago) link

A few months ago we ran a review of the then-recently released film Mission: Impossible III, starring the universally loved and respected (if diminutive) actor Tom Cruise, in the local paper I work for. This review was agency copy and as such would've been carried by the many local papers up and down the country that subscribe to the agency's service.

The review began something like this.

Tom Cruise sliding down a rope, stopping inches away from a nasty landing... Check

Enough masks, disguises and costumes to stock a fancy dress shop... Check

The famous line: "This message will self-destruct in five seconds"... Check

Close-ups of Cruise looking hot... Check

Double crosses and triple crosses... Check

So I prepare this copy for the reviews page and send it to press, ready to be printed over the weekend for the Monday edition of the paper. On Sunday evening I find a voicemail on my mobile phone from the overnight editor asking me to call him urgently. Later I find three messages of increasing anxiety on my answerphone at home as well. I ring in.

Ed: "There's something wrong with your reviews page. It's not been finished."
Me: "Really? I thought everything had been done, the page was proofed and actually we ran that copy in the week in our other editions."
Ed: "No, there's all this work that's been left undone on it."
Me: "Like what?"
Ed: "It says 'check' everywhere, you've got all these facts you need to check in the copy."
Me: "Ah..."

angle of d... (tingo), Saturday, 16 September 2006 16:24 (seventeen years ago) link

Ed: "It says 'check' everywhere, you've got all these facts you need to check in the copy."

Where have you hidden his body?

Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Saturday, 16 September 2006 16:41 (seventeen years ago) link

Slightly annoying individual who models himself on Norman Wisdom was ejected from the building after being caught not once but twice on the Internet looking at porn. 1st time was on overtime on Saturday, and then he was caught again last night.

His last words were “what am I to do now?”

not-goodwin (not-goodwin), Friday, 22 September 2006 05:44 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.genarians.com/images/norman-wisdom-sized.jpg
Oh no they took my porn!

Archel (Archel), Friday, 22 September 2006 07:50 (seventeen years ago) link

ha ha, good one Archel!

not-goodwin (not-goodwin), Friday, 22 September 2006 08:19 (seventeen years ago) link

one month passes...
PUT WORK IN MY FUCKING INBOX, NOT CHAIR OR KEYBOARD, THX

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 26 October 2006 17:30 (seventeen years ago) link

I don;t mind the chair or keyboard, but it really pisses me off when one of the guys in the office puts it on the floor - right fucking next to where I'm sitting. I've implemented the "you rude bastard, if you put work on the floor, I will not do it" rule.

luna (luna.c), Thursday, 26 October 2006 17:51 (seventeen years ago) link

PUT WORK IN MY FUCKING INBOX, NOT CHAIR OR KEYBOARD, THX

Seconded.

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Thursday, 26 October 2006 17:56 (seventeen years ago) link

On the floor???

Allyzay Eisenschefter (allyzay), Thursday, 26 October 2006 17:58 (seventeen years ago) link

On the floor. He comes over with this stupid smirk on his face, drops it to the floor next to my chair and giggles to himself as he walks away. There's a letter sitting there right now that's been there since Tuesday.

luna (luna.c), Thursday, 26 October 2006 19:52 (seventeen years ago) link

is his name chaki?

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 26 October 2006 19:58 (seventeen years ago) link

does that even make sense?

chaki (chaki), Thursday, 26 October 2006 20:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Yes. You have been accused of being a floor document put-er. how do you plead?

Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 26 October 2006 20:08 (seventeen years ago) link

It'll stick to him better than being "a DJ."

What about co-workers who contantly say "That is sooooooo funny" rather than LAUGHING?

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 26 October 2006 20:22 (seventeen years ago) link

Are their names chaki too?

Allyzay Eisenschefter (allyzay), Thursday, 26 October 2006 20:25 (seventeen years ago) link

What about co-workers who contantly say "That is sooooooo funny" rather than LAUGHING?

People who do that need to be slapped in the face. Over and over again.

I just went out in the rain to get a new desk chair, and the place WAS MOVING so they had about 5 chairs out. Now I look like a wet dog and my co-workers are laughing at my misfortune. Fuck all y'all.

molly d (mollyd), Thursday, 26 October 2006 20:26 (seventeen years ago) link

On the floor. He comes over with this stupid smirk on his face, drops it to the floor next to my chair and giggles to himself as he walks away. There's a letter sitting there right now that's been there since Tuesday.

Seriously, my dear, how have you not decked this dude, though? That makes me think of David Goben (that's right, fucker, google yourself. PS you also had bad, bad breath and also Patrick caught you snooping through people's trash to find shit on them).

Allyzay Eisenschefter (allyzay), Thursday, 26 October 2006 20:31 (seventeen years ago) link

It'll stick to him better than being "a DJ."

WHAT DOES THIS EVEN MEAN!?!???@#@

chaki (chaki), Thursday, 26 October 2006 21:17 (seventeen years ago) link

He's my boss, so no decking allowed, unfortunately.

luna (luna.c), Thursday, 26 October 2006 21:46 (seventeen years ago) link

He's my boss, so no decking allowed, unfortunately.
next time he comes over, stand up and scream "no i will not touch your cock"

not-goodwin (not-goodwin), Thursday, 26 October 2006 22:03 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't get the problem with people putting work on your chair or keyboard. How long does it take to pick it up and put it where you'd prefer it? (Then again, I have never had an inbox, so.)

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 26 October 2006 22:06 (seventeen years ago) link

I always leave things on people's chairs. Always. It is the accepted and expected way of doing things at my company.

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Thursday, 26 October 2006 22:18 (seventeen years ago) link

I hafta say though that I no longer have any substantive complaints about anybody I work with. Sure, there's a few people with work-habit quirks, but that stuff is real minor on the annoyance scale.

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Thursday, 26 October 2006 22:21 (seventeen years ago) link

I now have two part time jobs and no complaints about anyone I work with because I work TOTALLY ALONE. I'm glad they're not full time, I'd be crazy!

Maria (Maria), Thursday, 26 October 2006 22:37 (seventeen years ago) link

our awful student mentioned upthread (who NEVER improved at all) has gone, hooray!

H2-H4 (H2-H4), Thursday, 26 October 2006 22:54 (seventeen years ago) link

chair is for urgency only, not general notice

cousin larry bundgee (bundgee), Thursday, 26 October 2006 23:27 (seventeen years ago) link

Then again, I have never had an inbox, so.

Well, that makes all the difference. The point of the inbox is for ppl to put work there. Putting it elsewhere sez "You are an ass who never sees the inbox 10 inches from his face" or "My document is the most important, and I'm too busy to put a Post-It on it."

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 27 October 2006 12:45 (seventeen years ago) link

(I am going to put the inbox on my chair every time I step out, and see who comments first.)

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 27 October 2006 12:49 (seventeen years ago) link

Everybody here is okay personality-wise, but this one woman is afflicted with Inexplicable Office Inefficiency Disorder, an affliction that strikes it's victims incapable of accomplishing even the simplest tasks without expending a phenomenally disproportionate amount of time and/or effort. Symptoms include: inability to see things directly in front of them (even when assisted), inefficient typing/data-entry abilities (possibly due to hunt-and-peck disorder and/or ridiculously long fingernails), a predilection for double-entry, and dragon-like coffee/cigarette breath (may not be related).

polar bear flashback episode (nickalicious), Friday, 27 October 2006 13:04 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm pretty amazed by the Inefficiency Disorder on display right behind my desk and especially the tendency of this extremely loud Californian to drag others into it. But most of all, I realized how stupid she was when earlier this week she said she thinks OJ is innocent.

richardk (Richard K), Friday, 27 October 2006 14:07 (seventeen years ago) link

The glove didn't fit! They had to acquit!

ONIMO's pet donkey jacket potato (GerryNemo), Friday, 27 October 2006 14:16 (seventeen years ago) link

wow, didn't know that was still the Caucasian IQ test, or is it 1996?

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 27 October 2006 14:18 (seventeen years ago) link

There's a test? Fuck!

ONIMO's got some revising to do (GerryNemo), Friday, 27 October 2006 14:22 (seventeen years ago) link

That same woman I mentioned above always puts the apostrophe in the wrong place in dates, ie 06' Toyota Highlander, Grammy Awards 06', etc. It is killing me.

polar bear flashback episode (nickalicious), Friday, 27 October 2006 19:01 (seventeen years ago) link

The programmer who sits next to me has a Star Wars "Imperial March" ringtone on his phone. It was nerdy the first time I heard it when he started two months ago, but after five or six phone calls a day, every day. I want to light saber his head off.

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Friday, 27 October 2006 21:35 (seventeen years ago) link

three weeks pass...
Thanks for waiting til 4:20 Friday to give me the journal correx, then leaving before me, ASS EDITOR ASS.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 17 November 2006 22:58 (seventeen years ago) link

I just witnessed someone trimming their fingernails in their cubicle, accompanied by the *snip*snip* metal clipper sound.

I need a drink.

molly d (mollyd), Monday, 20 November 2006 19:30 (seventeen years ago) link

three months pass...
argh, My co-worker just left his finished oatmeal in the microwave, forever.. .It beeps every 30 seconds after it's done and I could understand leaving it one or two beeps as your often instructed to do. but he left it in for five or six beeps and finally I couldn't take it anymore. I asked him to take it out and goes after it wordlessy, slamming things all along. wtf? was that rude or am I just too wound up and shouldn't be bothered by constant beeping.

all of his food habits bother me, I tend to put on headphones whenever he's eating to avoid the sound but the microwave thing was just too much.

Ms Misery, Thursday, 22 February 2007 14:37 (seventeen years ago) link

Prompted by the I HAS A BUCKET! seal picture (which has made me the most popular colleague ever, btw) we had a discussion about giant seals.

Colleague A: Have you seen how many there get on the one beach? Like, zillions!
Colleague B: They're pretty violent aren't they? Have you seen them fighting?
Me: I saw a documentary where one renegade bull seal started to rape a female, then they all followed suit. It was pretty alarming.
Director: (thoughtful pause) Yeah, I want to come back as one of them.

Madchen, Thursday, 22 February 2007 14:48 (seventeen years ago) link

!!!!

Ms Misery, Thursday, 22 February 2007 14:49 (seventeen years ago) link

so seriously, tell me if I was being rude by asking him to remove his oatmeal? there's only three of us in here and I don't like either person being angry with me.

Ms Misery, Thursday, 22 February 2007 15:01 (seventeen years ago) link

My Mum leaves stuff in the microwave with it beeping every 3 seconds and it drives me absolutely bonkers. I'd start sending him an email for every beep or something.

Madchen, Thursday, 22 February 2007 15:16 (seventeen years ago) link

Not stupid at all, but rather INCONVENIENT: we're both pregnant at the same time. SHEEEIT! This is going to be hell at the end of the year for me!

nathalie, Thursday, 22 February 2007 15:17 (seventeen years ago) link

Sam, I don't think it was rude at all. People be wantin' to do things (even little things like put down their pencil and go to the m'wave) on their own timetable, and get annoyed when they're asked to adjust it, but it's not rude to ask them to if what they're doing is needlessly annoying.

Rock Hardy, Thursday, 22 February 2007 15:21 (seventeen years ago) link

Scene: my office, yesterday.


Marketing sales guy next to me: "Have you got a calendar on your desk I can borrow?"
Me: "Whats wrong with using the one on yr Windows desktop?"
Dumbass: "Windows has a calendar? OH HEY WOW IT DOES! This is so cool!"
Me: .....

Trayce, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 02:20 (seventeen years ago) link

there's only one guy in our office with speakers connected to his PC who sits there playing 'hilarious' youtube clips and stuff he finds online out loud several times a day because the manager of his department is his friend/neighbour and gave him the job as a favour. some of us are annoyed about his general noise, awful laugh (he always does a big over-the-top cough/wheeze type thing to demonstrate how amused he is) and the fact that he's not here to actually do any particularly useful work at all seemingly but feel we can't really say anything to his boss for aformentioned reasons. it would make us look like boring curmudgeons too i guess. sucks.

blueski, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 16:00 (seventeen years ago) link

ah good he's just fucked off early for the day.

blueski, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 16:03 (seventeen years ago) link

I thought you worked on your own! Is this the multiple personalities thing we discussed?

kv_nol, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 16:05 (seventeen years ago) link

omg he has actually started doing Lou & Andy impressions now.

blueski, Friday, 2 March 2007 14:17 (seventeen years ago) link

I thought you worked on your own! Is this the multiple personalities thing we discussed?

i don't work on my own, i'm just the only person in the office who does what i do.

blueski, Friday, 2 March 2007 14:18 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah i know

onimo, Friday, 2 March 2007 14:19 (seventeen years ago) link

bah xpost

onimo, Friday, 2 March 2007 14:20 (seventeen years ago) link

i don't mind 'yeah i know' so much - mainly cos i can pretend it's actually Eccleston Doctor. but saying 'i want that one', in 2007...the mind bogles.

blueski, Friday, 2 March 2007 14:21 (seventeen years ago) link

I got a Little Britain birthday card last year from a family member. It was at this exact point I knew that I had been living away from my family for a long time, and my opinions, likes and dislikes were no longer known about. It was kind of depressing in a way.

tissp, Friday, 2 March 2007 14:58 (seventeen years ago) link

three weeks pass...
sometimes my office takes a turn for locker-room style talk:

You know how you can tell if a girl has something on her like herpes or something? What you do is take a lemon or a lime and you squirt it on her pussy or her mouth and if she acts like it hurt real bad, she has something on her. Its true.

g®▲Ðұ, Friday, 23 March 2007 00:06 (seventeen years ago) link

they got all the juicy details

haitch, Friday, 23 March 2007 02:36 (seventeen years ago) link

when life gives you herpes...

chaki, Friday, 23 March 2007 02:40 (seventeen years ago) link

So have you soured on your workplace, grady?

The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Friday, 23 March 2007 02:59 (seventeen years ago) link

That sounds like something I might've heard or believed in 2nd or 3rd grade.

Did your co-worker have any suggestions about what kind of ruse might work for putting a twist of lime on a potential partner's snatchhole?

Oilyrags, Friday, 23 March 2007 03:02 (seventeen years ago) link

Dear annoying co-worker now confirmed to also be stupid - if you are going to use another person's laptop to send email, log them out and log yourself in. Especially if you are using it to job hunt.

PS. The Montana State Highway Patrol would like you to know you are not qualified.

Jaq, Wednesday, 4 April 2007 15:36 (seventeen years ago) link

two weeks pass...
i paraphrase, but basically:

"dear grimly. thanks for the e-mail you sent my colleague, which has been passed on to me. i'd like to open the attachment [nb, fact fans: the attachment was a fucking .txt file] in MS word. could you re-send the e-mail with the attachment pasted into the body of the e-mail so i can then cut and paste it into word?"

i despair. i really do.

grimly fiendish, Sunday, 22 April 2007 22:15 (seventeen years ago) link

"Have a GREAT day." Sweet Jesus, George Carlin is right, in 80 years we get about 6 great minutes, so STFU.

Dr Morbius, Monday, 30 April 2007 19:48 (seventeen years ago) link

now that i've identified the pattern, this has become more amusing than annoying, but one of my coworkers always waits until i'm one bite into my lunch to come over to my desk and ask me to do something for her. this happens at least 3 times a week...

anhell*ca, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 18:57 (seventeen years ago) link

There was a sales rep who used to pull that shit on me, and the amount of "I'm sorry I'm not organized" humiliation I would put her through depended on the number of witnesses in the break room.

Rock Hardy, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 20:06 (seventeen years ago) link

There is a woman at work who knows everything. Another lady just brought in her 6 week old puppy for a visit.

Mrs Know-It-All in a know-it-all tone: Oh I can clearly see he's going to be huge.
Mrs Puppy Owner, deadpan: It's a Pomeranian. How big do you think it's going to grow?

Hard like armour, Thursday, 3 May 2007 03:03 (seventeen years ago) link

dear secretary,

you are a v. v. sweet lady, but the countries kazakastan, byran, mynamar, omad and mylasia do not exist. please consult a map, an atlas, a globe, your 9 year old's geography book... something. it's driving me crazy!

love,

-t

tehresa, Thursday, 3 May 2007 03:11 (seventeen years ago) link

and oh yeah, please stop saving over documents in the database with new material. COPY and open as a new document, then edit and save. when we need to access it in 3 years and the doc id number brings up something entirely different/unrelated, it won't seem so harmless!

tehresa, Thursday, 3 May 2007 03:19 (seventeen years ago) link

gawd anybody knows it's mylanta!

lfam, Thursday, 3 May 2007 04:08 (seventeen years ago) link

Co-workers who keep 1) shrieking 2) cackling 3) talking loudly and condescendingly with that faux-posh-brit accent, today I hate you all. Please stop now.

Jaq, Wednesday, 9 May 2007 23:13 (seventeen years ago) link

colleague who told another department that no, nobody on the features desk would be interested in having a ferrari for the weekend: i don't yet know who you are, but when i find out you are toast.

grimly fiendish, Wednesday, 9 May 2007 23:17 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm not one to complain about people using certain words, but saying "AHAHABsoLUTEly" after any statement ever is really greating.

the next grozart, Thursday, 10 May 2007 00:57 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, keep filling my inbox at 3:50 on Friday, you tubercular ass

Dr Morbius, Friday, 11 May 2007 19:56 (seventeen years ago) link

Ha, Grimly, we had a similar situation with a vintage Rolls last year.

Madchen, Saturday, 12 May 2007 07:55 (seventeen years ago) link

FUCKING STOP CRUNCHING ON ICE CUBES ALL DAY LONG, you perpetually thickheaded lazy ass cuntbubble who sits next to me!!!!! RAAARGH.

Trayce, Tuesday, 15 May 2007 05:08 (sixteen years ago) link

I don't know where to start with these cnuts this week.

Actually I do.

Dear Mr Big Boss Man,
Don't waste an hour of my staff's time asking them why they are leaving half an hour early for the airport. This wastes everyone's time including your "valuable" own and negates your original cuntish intention.
Regards,
O

onimo, Tuesday, 15 May 2007 07:06 (sixteen years ago) link

Woman who comes in two days a week and does nothing,

Turn you fucking horrendously loud obnoxious ringtone down or at least be at your desk once in a fucking blue moon to answer the fucking thing. Even better, carry it with you - it's a MOBILE phone!

Regards,
O

onimo, Tuesday, 15 May 2007 07:08 (sixteen years ago) link

Self confessed "luddite" bloke,
Yes we can check all the links in your document for you if you really can't work out how to do so yourself (if you put them in, surely you can fucking CLICK A MOUSE BUTTON?!), but can you at least get ONE of them right? Just one? Surprise me.

Regards,
O

onimo, Tuesday, 15 May 2007 07:11 (sixteen years ago) link

Oh man that phone is ringing again. I'm going to smash the fucking thing.

onimo, Tuesday, 15 May 2007 07:13 (sixteen years ago) link

Dear bosses everywhere. Team meetings do not automatically become "fun" just because you let us wear our jeans to them. And don't tell us you'd thought about having the meeting in the pub then decided against it because then we just spend the whole meeting thinking about how it might actually have been a teeny bit more fun if we were all pished instead of listening to people talking about sales targets.

love, staff everywhere

ailsa, Tuesday, 15 May 2007 07:19 (sixteen years ago) link

Daerest commercial manager,

Sitting at the other end of the office bitching loudly about how the event I've organised for Monday and Tuesday next week doesn't achieve what you want it to achieve, when you haven't offered any input to the agenda at all, and you don't even have to go anyway since one of your staff is.

Teambuilding can be sitting round in the evening with a beer instead of abseiling down Cheddar Gorge, the difficult thing is getting a lot of quite important people in the same place, at the same time, and justifying it. Plus we're not allowed to refer to Teambuilding at all any more, the word is banned.

Hugs 'n' shit,

aldo

aldo, Friday, 18 May 2007 15:09 (sixteen years ago) link

[iTurn you fucking horrendously loud obnoxious ringtone down or at least be at your desk once in a fucking blue moon to answer the fucking thing. Even better, carry it with you - it's a MOBILE phone! [/i]

cant you pour some water on it when no one is looking. and then when she comes back, go, oh weird, i didnt see anything, but i only just got back myself

696, Friday, 18 May 2007 15:19 (sixteen years ago) link

delivery of chairs this morning, sat there outside the office. so i pick one up and carry it in. it's bulky and there are two half-flights of stairs but hey... 30 minutes later and 5 people, all seemingly able-bodied, have since arrived and yet the other 3 chairs are all still sat outside.

koogs, Wednesday, 23 May 2007 07:57 (sixteen years ago) link

"Can we all get together to discuss tomorrow's meeting?"

No, that would make it today's meeting!

onimo, Wednesday, 23 May 2007 08:04 (sixteen years ago) link

I often wonder why people gossip so much. Don't they realize that if you talk everyone's back, people get easily bored by it?

nathalie, Wednesday, 23 May 2007 08:10 (sixteen years ago) link

Memo to receptionist at magazine: when scheduling lunch cover, please feel free to staff the phones with someone who is not patently terrified of answering them or routing calls.

suzy, Wednesday, 23 May 2007 08:51 (sixteen years ago) link

Stupid, annoying manager of support team just brought down part of our website running a ridiculous SQL query on our live production table, not using NOLOCK and doing a LIKE on a fucking TEXT field. When oh when will DBA just revoke her access FFS.

Colonel Poo, Thursday, 24 May 2007 15:18 (sixteen years ago) link

Lately I've been working in an open-plan office room in which there are no cubical walls and only chairs and tables. The programmer one table over has a Star Wars Imperial March ringtone and its loud enough to piece through whatever I'm listening to on my iPod.

Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 24 May 2007 23:14 (sixteen years ago) link

You have non-leaking headphones, I hope?

Mark C, Friday, 25 May 2007 00:13 (sixteen years ago) link

Hey, everybody loves Spaceman 3!

nickn, Friday, 25 May 2007 00:18 (sixteen years ago) link

coworker says revelant rather than relevant..

Drooone, Friday, 25 May 2007 01:45 (sixteen years ago) link

Coworker says "Elementary my dear Jackson". Dick. Head.

Hard like armour, Friday, 25 May 2007 01:47 (sixteen years ago) link

I got sent a "Ho ho those illegal immigrants" poem a PFW today. The person in question is not the brightest, so she probably does not mean to offend. I reckon that the world would be happier if I smile politely rather than if I go all special voice on her.

The Real Dirty Vicar, Friday, 25 May 2007 12:24 (sixteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

iPod's playing "Summertime" by Herbie Hancock

CO-WORKER: "That's not you, is it?"

Pleasant Plains, Friday, 8 June 2007 15:45 (sixteen years ago) link

Bitch taking a day off even though she was told not to (this week).

stevienixed, Friday, 8 June 2007 16:09 (sixteen years ago) link

(Not stupid, but EXTREMELY annoying and rude.)

stevienixed, Friday, 8 June 2007 16:10 (sixteen years ago) link

I messed up a program at work and may have caused several hours of repair to database. Today, I am the stupid, annoying co-worker.

Will M., Friday, 8 June 2007 16:18 (sixteen years ago) link

That's just a mistake.

Annoying is when they slam the microwave door or put their up on shared furniture.

Ms Misery, Friday, 8 June 2007 16:32 (sixteen years ago) link

Well, it's a gray area. I should have been checking more thoroughly, so I should have caught it before it was a mess, but it also should have been coded properly. Either way, somebody fuxed up and it sucks now. :(

Will M., Friday, 8 June 2007 16:43 (sixteen years ago) link

Annoying WCG* dude now has the fucking "pook.. pook.. PWWEEEEWWWT" walk signal noise as his cellphone txt notifier noise. It is holy crap loud, and goes of CONSTANTLY. Jesus fuck this guy is irritating.

(*windows calendar guy, see previous)

Trayce, Tuesday, 12 June 2007 03:46 (sixteen years ago) link

you are easily annoyed, trayce.

The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Tuesday, 12 June 2007 18:48 (sixteen years ago) link

Dear my boss

I do not want or need to be friends with people I work with. I have the internet a life outside the office for that. I go in, I am civil and professional and polite for 8 hours, I go home. Stop making me try to discuss stuff I don't want to discuss with people I don't want to discuss it with, and then telling me I'm not a team player because I don't want to be bestest mates and drinking buddies with the people I just happened to end up in an office with.

Just let me do what you pay me for. I'm pretty good at that really. Msybe you might stop worrying about my ability to gibber on at length about Johnny Depp's attractivness or what happened on River City last night long enough to notice that.

love

A

P.S. if you ask me how to spell "supersede" and I tell you, if three other people tell you that it's spelled "supercede", that doesn't make them right. Get one dictionary.

Cheers
A

ailsa, Tuesday, 12 June 2007 21:14 (sixteen years ago) link

Um. Both spellings are acceptable, Ailsa.

Venga, Tuesday, 12 June 2007 21:17 (sixteen years ago) link

Not in my world they aren't. Grammar fiends and copy editors to thread!

supersede
not supercede

(from http://www.guardian.co.uk/styleguide/page/0,,184832,00.html)

ailsa, Tuesday, 12 June 2007 21:27 (sixteen years ago) link

Heh, I like how my big post there was all ridden with typos. I can spell "maybe" and "attractiveness", honest. I just can't type on this crappy laptop.

ailsa, Tuesday, 12 June 2007 21:30 (sixteen years ago) link

you are easily annoyed, trayce.

ONLY BY HIM GOD DAMMIT RARGH *flails arms* ok maybe youre right.

Trayce, Tuesday, 12 June 2007 22:04 (sixteen years ago) link

When you hear his phone go off, do you step away from your desk and stride down the hallway?

Hard like armour, Tuesday, 12 June 2007 22:15 (sixteen years ago) link

i cannot believe how much my coworker complains about the heat. we work outside, in miami! what the fuck do you expect?

lfam, Tuesday, 12 June 2007 22:55 (sixteen years ago) link

Doesn't everyone have a Trayce's co-worker in their office (those who work in offices with several people in them, at any rate)? One person who does a few annoying things so often that everything about them becomes annoying, even things that aren't so bad really, so you're all "dear God, PLEASE stop clanking the edge of your cup with your teaspoon when you're stirring your one cup of coffee of the day, aargh, DIE DIE DIE" for basically no reason at all? No? Just me then (and Trayce)? I've had one nearly everywhere I've ever been.

ailsa, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 06:15 (sixteen years ago) link

YES EXACTLY. It isnt him or one extreme thing, it is every little goddamn thing he does - crunching ice cubes, making human beatbox noises, the fscking LOUD techno cellphone ringtone and the fact on top of all that, that he earns 20k a year more than me and gladly says he has bugger all to do.

I know its unfair of me but HE IS MY FOCUS rargh.

Trayce, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 06:22 (sixteen years ago) link

Ah work placements how I love thee.

Currently we are blessed with a morose French girl who can't - or won't - speak English. She was dumped by her boyfriend via text one week into her placement, and now spends all day alternately instant messaging furiously and smoking.

Archel, Monday, 25 June 2007 14:23 (sixteen years ago) link

Do you speak French?

Ms Misery, Monday, 25 June 2007 14:26 (sixteen years ago) link

A little... she understands ok. Mainly I just tell her stuff to do and point hopefully, then an hour later she might actually do it.

Archel, Monday, 25 June 2007 15:12 (sixteen years ago) link

she sounds like the best co-worker ever!

hstencil, Monday, 25 June 2007 15:13 (sixteen years ago) link

just tell her "tes sins son tellement grosses" - this will cheer her up and improve her overall performance.

The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Monday, 25 June 2007 15:29 (sixteen years ago) link

one month passes...

I was just reminded that "if you don't shit you die."

Drooone, Wednesday, 8 August 2007 01:08 (sixteen years ago) link

):

Drooone, Wednesday, 8 August 2007 01:09 (sixteen years ago) link

Oh and that was a youngish woman who reminded me.

):

Drooone, Wednesday, 8 August 2007 01:37 (sixteen years ago) link

I remind my 3 yr old son of this constantly, though I use the word "poo". I'm sure he views me as his annoying co-worker also.

Forgot My Pencil, Wednesday, 8 August 2007 03:08 (sixteen years ago) link

I love the way that this mean spirited thread was started by one of the nicest people I've met thanks to ILX :)

kv_nol, Wednesday, 8 August 2007 09:04 (sixteen years ago) link

Arrrggghhh, fuck fuck fuck, why does my boss have to be so fucking prolix and long-winded and write 39983837 words where 12 will do and leave me to edit this boring over-stuffed shite so it fits on a page without pushing what everyone else has written into the margins - IF YOU WANT PHOTOGRAPHS 'N NICE GRAPHICS 'N SHIT IN THIS NEWSLETTER THEN TRY NOT REWRITING "WAR AND PEACE" EVERY TIME YOU SIT DOWN AT A COMPUTER! Still, at least she's in Tanzania this week, so I don't have her hovering over my shoulder correcting my grammar and quibbling over semi colons and colons and dashes etc etc.

Tom D., Wednesday, 8 August 2007 09:31 (sixteen years ago) link

I notice I'm a frequent contributor to this page, anyway...

This isn't really that annoying, but the girl in the desk beside me is constantly drinking out of a water bottle - honestly, she drinks gallons of the stuff - what she does is violently grab the bottle, fling her head way back, and noisily glug it like a cowboy necking a bottle o' liquor in a saloon bar scene in a Western, it's all a bit disconcerting

Tom D., Friday, 17 August 2007 14:57 (sixteen years ago) link

that's pretty hilarious, considering that working in a desk doesn't have that great a risk of dehydration.

Maria, Friday, 17 August 2007 15:24 (sixteen years ago) link

I drink a ton of water too as some of my medication makes my mouth impossibly dry. However I don't do it in that fashion. I hate when people make that gurgling noise when they drink.

Ms Misery, Friday, 17 August 2007 15:26 (sixteen years ago) link

My boss/client stressed the hell out of me as the most recent deadlines approached, making changes that turned reasonable looking ads into godawful fugly ones. I was getting really frustrated and pulled something on her I swore I'd never do -- "I hate what you're doing to this ad, but you're writing the checks, so I'll do it."

Ugh, if I ever had any good design sense (and I probably didn't), it all got beaten out of me by someone who wants everything beveled, drop-shadowed and in a starburst.

Rock Hardy, Friday, 17 August 2007 15:39 (sixteen years ago) link

I HATE STARBURSTS!!! WAY TO INSTANTLY MAKE YOUR PRODUCT LOOK CHEAP AND TOTALLY CLASSLESS YOU IMPUDENT TOOL!

The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Friday, 17 August 2007 15:47 (sixteen years ago) link

that was me at my old job.

The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Friday, 17 August 2007 15:47 (sixteen years ago) link

Yeah, but it's "pizzazzy," or so the boss lady tells me.

Rock Hardy, Friday, 17 August 2007 15:49 (sixteen years ago) link

You are just the design monkey. Do what she asks to get your monkey biscuit.

Ms Misery, Friday, 17 August 2007 16:15 (sixteen years ago) link

eep eep! I like the monkey biscuits that have zeroes at the end of them.

Next year will be my 10th year working on this technicolor design nightmare. But the pay is good.

Rock Hardy, Friday, 17 August 2007 16:21 (sixteen years ago) link

None of my coworkers are in my side of the office today so I can be as annoying as I'd like! If only I had a water bottle! I'd wheel my chair up to my desk, slap my hand on my keyboard drawer, and then guzzle down the water.

patita, Friday, 17 August 2007 17:23 (sixteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...

We hired a new administrative assistant this week, which is great since we've been in desperate need of one for quite some time. The problem? She is doused in horrible smelling perfume. The smell takes over the entire office within thirty seconds of her coming in the door. I can feel the taste of it in the back of my throat. You'd think that by the time one reached 40, one would know the art of tastfully applying perfume. Apparently not.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Friday, 7 September 2007 15:57 (sixteen years ago) link

My old boss was like that - I swear he doused himself after his shower, again after he got dressed, and had his wife spritz him as he walked out the door. I'm not entirely certain he didn't carry an atomizer with him. It was almost a visible cloud of stench. You have my sympathy.

luna, Friday, 7 September 2007 16:54 (sixteen years ago) link

Our file clerk is generally a nice person, but I could really live without the minute by minute update of Young & the Restless that she gives her mother via telephone every afternoon.

luna, Friday, 14 September 2007 20:35 (sixteen years ago) link

Stupid co-worker referenced here: Let's bitch about our stupid, annoying co-workers
was fired last week for 1) browsing porn 2) on a PC critical to the plant operation 3) which became virally infected and 4) had to be shut down and cleaned up, invoking the wrath of the state environmental agencies.

Jaq, Friday, 14 September 2007 20:47 (sixteen years ago) link

Carol clips her fingernails AT HER DESK! EVERY WEEK! Gross me out!

Trip Maker, Friday, 14 September 2007 20:48 (sixteen years ago) link

It's JUST GREAT when they pile shit on yr desk at Friday 4:30 and sweetly say "For Monday," ain't it?

Dr Morbius, Friday, 14 September 2007 20:51 (sixteen years ago) link

If they don't specify which Monday, you get to choose.

Jaq, Friday, 14 September 2007 20:55 (sixteen years ago) link

OMG Jaq that is the worst work offense I've heard in a while of whiles.

Abbott, Friday, 14 September 2007 21:45 (sixteen years ago) link

i bite my nails and pick my teeth with the nail. people hate me here. lulz.

chaki, Friday, 14 September 2007 21:55 (sixteen years ago) link

Someone I manage spends the entire day making little 'mmm...hmmm....' noises to herself. During most work conversations she manages to say 'aren't I silly!' or 'how stupid of me!' or 'sorry!' at least twice. She dresses to emphasise this approach to herself. About once every two months she goes apeshit and snaps someone's head off. She is one of the most disconcerting people I have ever met.

ljubljana, Saturday, 15 September 2007 16:21 (sixteen years ago) link

Another person I manage looks as if I have just pained him beyond words if I address him across the desk. He looks up, startled, for all the world as if we are complete strangers or we have both taken a vow of silence (in our loud open-plan office) and asks me with an expression of deep annoyance to repeat what I said.

ljubljana, Saturday, 15 September 2007 16:23 (sixteen years ago) link

My boss (male, 60s) told me that he had to explain to his fellow interviewers (when interviewing yet another person I manage) how you have to be very careful about the 'halo effect' when interviewing young blonde ladies in order to prove that you have genuine reasons for hiring them. 'Because I must say that one must be aware of this. I DO find her very...' (STOP!) ... I mean, I have to say...' (NO YOU DON'T) '...that I do, personally, find her (NOOOOOOO) very attractive as a woman'. (Me: rictus polite smile). Boss: 'Not that you're NOT attractive'. Me (finally snapping): 'Stop digging'.

ljubljana, Saturday, 15 September 2007 16:28 (sixteen years ago) link

My most annoying co-worker is this horribly nerdy fellah who punctuates every other sentence with a nerdy snark followed by the voiceless laughter of breathing loudly through his teeth, as if he's terribly amused by his bad joke, but can't muster the strength to laugh out loud at it. It's doesn't bug me all that much, really, 'cause he's a nice enough guy, but I wish he'd talk less and work more.

Five or so years ago, I had a co-worker who kept a tally on his whiteboard of the number of fingers he was going to remove from one particular developer. He also had the worst BO in history and put a sign on his office door saying, you enter, you DIE!!!! He was definitely the most annoying co-worker I've experienced.

libcrypt, Sunday, 16 September 2007 17:50 (sixteen years ago) link

What is it with the women in this office, they are constantly eating!

Tom D., Thursday, 20 September 2007 13:55 (sixteen years ago) link

My "boss" slurps his coffee and eats disgustingly smelly fried things for breakfast then belches quietly all morning. ARGH

Ms Misery, Thursday, 20 September 2007 14:04 (sixteen years ago) link

co-worker has a new born child. It's all she fucking talks about. Just before she said "so, we got some family photos done on the weekend" obvs trying to tell me about it. I just kind of grunted and carried on with what i was doing.

W4LTER, Sunday, 23 September 2007 23:59 (sixteen years ago) link

The baby is kind of cute tho. It's a little ranga.

W4LTER, Monday, 24 September 2007 00:00 (sixteen years ago) link

I love that expression, ranga :D

My coworkers all just kind of sniggered at me because I had the gall to say "who is this person" about some guy we were emailed about who has apparently been here for ages, fuck if I care, this'd be the third person thats worked around us that NO ONE has bothered to introduce me to. I sit in the corner and am completely ignored/left out of everything, and I am going to resign, this place is a joke.

Oh and dumbass windows calendar guy is still at it with the dumfuckery and ice crunching and idiocy and making at least 10k a year more than I do :(

Trayce, Monday, 24 September 2007 01:56 (sixteen years ago) link

kill him and absorb his (earning) power.

The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Monday, 24 September 2007 04:19 (sixteen years ago) link

I am interested in your ideas and wish to subscribe to your newsletter.

Trayce, Monday, 24 September 2007 04:43 (sixteen years ago) link

This girl does NOTHING but EAT all day long. ALL DAY LONG. She's driving me crazy. All I can hear is crunching or smacking noises, and I am beginning to hope she chokes on her cheetos.

luna, Wednesday, 26 September 2007 21:51 (sixteen years ago) link

I used to work with a dude that ate all day long too. He was constantly chewing on something, usually chocolate or candy bars. He would then wonder aloud every three weeks how he got so fat.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Wednesday, 26 September 2007 22:01 (sixteen years ago) link

Oh, god! Cheetos?! I'd love to see how her workstation looks and smells.

Michael White, Wednesday, 26 September 2007 22:15 (sixteen years ago) link

For breakfast this morning, she had some budget gourmet fettuccini alfredo. It smelled like it had been already vomited up.

At 1030, she had another meal of some description - I didn't see it, but it too smelled like it had been already well used.

It's now 1:14, and she's eating ribs, a salad, has a piece of cake bigger than my head, and a soda.

luna, Thursday, 27 September 2007 20:16 (sixteen years ago) link

ALL I WANT IS PIZZA

Maria, Thursday, 27 September 2007 20:19 (sixteen years ago) link

luna, is she in training for something? How does she fit any work in when she has so much feeding to do?

Also, and I'm not sure exactly why, but the juxtaposition of 'budget' and 'gourmet' is making me chortle.

Michael White, Thursday, 27 September 2007 20:22 (sixteen years ago) link

Budget Gourmet is a brand of frozen entres in the US.

nickn, Thursday, 27 September 2007 20:30 (sixteen years ago) link

ha hah
xpost

The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Thursday, 27 September 2007 20:31 (sixteen years ago) link

luna, is she in training for something? How does she fit any work in when she has so much feeding to do?

For a fat ass maybe, but nothing else that I'm aware of.

None of this would bother me as much if she didn't sit in front of me.

luna, Thursday, 27 September 2007 20:41 (sixteen years ago) link

Is she fat now? My boss bothers me because he never picks up his feet, just shuffles them across the floor. ::shudder::

Misery, Thursday, 27 September 2007 20:44 (sixteen years ago) link

Nope, she's not at all. She's not stick thin or anything, but she is in no way fat.

No one here is a foot shuffler, but the manager of my apartment building is - she either shuffles or runs, there is no in between. I hate her.

luna, Thursday, 27 September 2007 20:45 (sixteen years ago) link

Budget Gourmet is a brand of frozen entres in the US.

Trust me, I know. Our freezer has a goodly selection here at work. I guess I'd just never thought about it much before.

It smelled like it had been already vomited up

God, I have experienced this, but nothing makes me want to retch more than sharing an elevator with someone who has a bag of McDonald's breakfast sandwiches.

Michael White, Thursday, 27 September 2007 21:10 (sixteen years ago) link

McDonald's fries, on the other hand....

Laurel, Thursday, 27 September 2007 21:16 (sixteen years ago) link

I used to work with a dude that ate all day long too. He was constantly chewing on something, usually chocolate or candy bars. He would then wonder aloud every three weeks how he got so fat.

What about obese colleague who hides her cookies upstairs? And when you offer her something for lunch, she will proclaim:"Oh no, just one sandwich! I'm not hungry!" On top of that she constantly eavesdrops - well, has finely tuned hearing - and is a terrible asslicker. Bah.

stevienixed, Thursday, 27 September 2007 21:20 (sixteen years ago) link

There's more, but I don't want to crush your computers with annoying peeves.

stevienixed, Thursday, 27 September 2007 21:23 (sixteen years ago) link

a terrible asslicker

I'm just curious as to how you know this? ;)

Michael White, Thursday, 27 September 2007 21:25 (sixteen years ago) link

Oh god, did I just literally translate this from Dutch? Fuck. Y'know, I really don't wanna have this mental picture of her being this weirdo fetishist. :-)

stevienixed, Thursday, 27 September 2007 21:33 (sixteen years ago) link

Same in French - lèche cul.

In (American) English it's usually an 'asskisser' or 'brown nose'.

Michael White, Thursday, 27 September 2007 21:49 (sixteen years ago) link

So last week right before noon my boss asked if I was going anywhere for lunch. I said no, I had a lot of work to do but I was probably going to go pick up something and bring it back, did he want me to get him something? He said no, he was just really tired and wanted to take a nap and wondered if I would be out of the office (we share the same room, and another co-worker has a little room right next, it's like a common IT area with one big office, one small one, and two server rooms with their own climate control.) Anyway, under his breath he says something about sleeping under my desk. I stopped, amazed that I heard and doubly amazed that he said it. So now I'm not going anywhere and will eat stale crackers and cottage cheese if I have to. I said something like "That's not funny". He played it off as a joke and went to take a nap somewhere else. I thought he was just being silly but it stuck in my mind. Then yesterday I had to work at home and was talking to my other co-worker who was having a problem that the boss could easily help him with. I asked him where the boss was and he said "Either asleep or dead, I can't tell" and I jokingly asked if he was sleeping under my desk. Co-worker said "Yes, but don't tell him I told you." Now, this co-worker lies a lot to make jokes, and he's very good at it. Sometimes the outlandish things he says come across so believable. So I played along but it stuck in my mind again. What if he was telling the truth?? Today I get back in the office and while boss is at lunch, co-worker and I are joking around and I find out that indeed, boss was sleeping under my desk. Co-worker was not lying and didn't think it was a big deal because my area is so clean and the boss area is so cluttered. We're one happy IT family and I love both of them but it's fucking weird!! His area is cluttered but not on the floor! My boss has been sleeping under my desk when I'm not around! So I've decided to put little signs under my desk saying something like "Sleeping under my desk is creepy."

Rebekkah, Saturday, 29 September 2007 04:26 (sixteen years ago) link

At least he's not doing it while you're sitting there! :/ But still... eww.

Trayce, Saturday, 29 September 2007 04:41 (sixteen years ago) link

Not exactly on topic, but I'm not sure where else I should put this:

There are three four-hour database training sessions happening in the next two days. Anyone who works on a particular program must attend the database training for that program. I work on three programs.

Yaaaaaay.

Gee wilikers, I wonder if any material covered in one session will also be covered in the other sessions?

Oilyrags, Monday, 8 October 2007 20:13 (sixteen years ago) link

Time to sit in the back and teach yourself how to knit or read tarot cards.

Jaq, Monday, 8 October 2007 20:15 (sixteen years ago) link

wow - Rebekkah,that's hillarious!
so many ways you can fuck with him now!!!

The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Monday, 8 October 2007 23:48 (sixteen years ago) link

im whistling the solo to reelin in the years right now and another cube in the office started whistling erratically i guess to tell me im being annoying?

chaki, Monday, 8 October 2007 23:56 (sixteen years ago) link

HOLY SHIT, dickwad. YES, you can use one of the many spare computers on this desk. but see when i point at the one chris usually sits at and say, yo, not that one, chris will be using it? that means i don't want you to use it. therefore pointing back at it and repeatedly going: "this one? yeh? this one okay?" is gonna PISS ME THE FUCK OFF.

and then proving your spectacular fucking tooldom by standing there for FIVE MINUTES scratching your head before coming back and asking me HOW TO TURN THE THING ON ... the mind boggles. THE COMPUTER AND THE MONITOR ARE NOT THE SAME THING, YOU FUCKING ANAL FISSURE. see the BIG BOX WITH THE FUCKING CD DRIVE AND SHIT? AND THE ON SWITCH? HAVE A FUCKING GUESS HOW IT WORKS. GO ON, HAVE A GUESS.

there. i feel much better now.

grimly fiendish, Wednesday, 17 October 2007 12:12 (sixteen years ago) link

hahahhaha!

Dr.C, Wednesday, 17 October 2007 12:14 (sixteen years ago) link

yeh, i think i can laugh about it now. those seven minutes have been therapeutic.

grimly fiendish, Wednesday, 17 October 2007 12:19 (sixteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

My boss is completely incapable of not answering his cell phone. Whenever he's on the phone with a client and his cell phone rings, he covers the office phone with his hand, picks up the cell, and says "I'll have to call you right back ok thanks bye" and hangs up. Which seems more annoying to both parties than to just let it go to frickin' voicemail.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Thursday, 1 November 2007 14:20 (sixteen years ago) link

yup, pretty much hate anyone who does that. Which is my entire office.

Ste, Thursday, 1 November 2007 14:22 (sixteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

1: "oh god, i have an ABBA song in my head"
2: "i have a kate nash song in mine"
1: "i don't know who that is, but it's probably better than ABBA"

(2 is now playing kate nash on speakers)(jesus, she is AWFUL)(this is america ps wtf you brits can keep her)

impudent harlot, Tuesday, 20 November 2007 22:16 (sixteen years ago) link

four weeks pass...

One of my workmates (otherwise a nice chap) has Del Tha Shithead Homosapien's 'Mr Dubboleenah' or whatever the fuck it is as his answer tone, and always leaves his mobile in his office when he goes anywhere (which is often), so that damn song goes off next door multiple times a day and plays on and on without anyone stopping it. If we had windows I'd throw the fucking thing out the window.

James Morrison, Tuesday, 18 December 2007 03:53 (sixteen years ago) link

haha. weasel's opening post on this thread is hilarious btw.

Surmounter, Tuesday, 18 December 2007 04:08 (sixteen years ago) link

I started making notes some time ago of the idiotic things my Gareth-like supervisor said- Here's one.

Me, after having been handed a candy with a picture of a calf on the wrapper:

"Oh, look at this cute picture of a calf!"

Him: "Not baa-aaa-aad!"

Me: That's a sheep, that makes a baa-ing noise, not a cow.

Him: (petulant silence)

antexit, Tuesday, 18 December 2007 04:13 (sixteen years ago) link

What's with co-worker saying "Oh, that was fast" when you pass bluelines to them? We get out at 3pm and I've seen the damn thing 4 times already, you think I'm gonna read every word on all 108 pages again? At least I knew to proof that chart again and found THE OLD TYPO THAT WAS NEVER FIXED.

Dr Morbius, Friday, 21 December 2007 18:55 (sixteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Get a load of the ad copy someone just handed me. As a jpeg, no less. I had to retype this.

Amid the abundant natural splendor that encapsulates the British Virgin Islands, there are a handful of locations that literally take one's breath away. The north coast of Tortola is such a place. It's as if each successive bay and stretch of beach is in direct competition, trying to outdo the other in terms of sheer, rapturous beauty. A delicate natural interplay -- swaying palms, dazzling white sand, shimmering water, mango and banana groves, verdant hillsides, and mesmerizing views -- causes one to rub one's eyes in disbelief. Surely, there is no better spot in the world. It is here, on Lambert Bay, a glorious stretch of beach that faces the setting sun at the eastern end of the island, that your home, R****** T******, will be built. Fifty private acres in a spectacular natural amphitheater where mountainside residences will look down upon a 200-foot stage on which a grand R****** resort will await. This is where lifelong dreams will be realized, and countless new ones will arise.

kenan, Tuesday, 8 January 2008 14:59 (sixteen years ago) link

wow. who the fuck sends copy as a jpg!?

The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Tuesday, 8 January 2008 15:59 (sixteen years ago) link

a glorious stretch of beach that faces the setting sun at the eastern end of the island

^and this makes no sense to me at all.

The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Tuesday, 8 January 2008 15:59 (sixteen years ago) link

the whole thing causes me to rub my eyes in disbelief.

kenan, Tuesday, 8 January 2008 16:14 (sixteen years ago) link

it makes sense if the island is shaped like, uh, cape cod, for lack of a better example

sleep, Tuesday, 8 January 2008 16:17 (sixteen years ago) link

(xpost)

sleep, Tuesday, 8 January 2008 16:19 (sixteen years ago) link

Does Smoove B write copy for your company?

Neil S, Tuesday, 8 January 2008 16:20 (sixteen years ago) link

"Girl, I will buy you tropical real estate. I will also serve juice."

kenan, Tuesday, 8 January 2008 16:26 (sixteen years ago) link

"Also, there will be peas"

Neil S, Tuesday, 8 January 2008 16:28 (sixteen years ago) link

"Peas on earth, good will to all men"

Tom D., Tuesday, 8 January 2008 16:29 (sixteen years ago) link

"facing west"

Kerm, Tuesday, 8 January 2008 16:35 (sixteen years ago) link

Man, I always want to contribute to this thread, but when it comes to my co-workers, where does one begin?! They are awful people. Awful.

Ai Lien, Tuesday, 8 January 2008 21:12 (sixteen years ago) link

Haha I got "asked to resign" from that job I've bitched about for the last 2 years, recently. Blessed relief really (if rather embarrasing, I spose)

More hilariously though - dumb calendar guy and his annoying ice cube crunching and beatboxing may be gone... but I have now discovered my newly moved-in boyfriend crunches ice cubes and beat boxes ;_;

Well at least he beatboxes glitchy idm and not irritating 4/4 techno I suppose...

Trayce, Tuesday, 8 January 2008 23:24 (sixteen years ago) link

one month passes...

WAKE UP LADY! I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR YOU TO GET IT TOGETHER FOR THREE DAYS NOW!
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee39/samgezee/sreepy.jpg

carne asada, Friday, 8 February 2008 19:39 (sixteen years ago) link

Haha well she is pretty decent at the posed sleeping, but she needs to figure out how better to support her head.

Abbott, Friday, 8 February 2008 19:59 (sixteen years ago) link

the guy that took this picture just got in trouble for showing it around the office and the lady found out!

carne asada, Friday, 8 February 2008 20:10 (sixteen years ago) link

Lady shouldn't have been sleeping.

Abbott, Friday, 8 February 2008 20:16 (sixteen years ago) link

coworker in cubicle next to yours CONSTANTLY holding very hush hush whispered conversations with people who stop by to talk to her: c/d?

daria-g, Wednesday, 13 February 2008 16:31 (sixteen years ago) link

Hush-hush conversations make me think someone is either leaving the company or is pregnant.

Laurel, Wednesday, 13 February 2008 16:34 (sixteen years ago) link

It's not that unless those things are happening every day here. I think it's just griping about this or that work related plus talk about what's happening with some of the higher ups? it's pretty silly though. at least my team has the decency to bitch in a normal tone of voice

daria-g, Wednesday, 13 February 2008 16:42 (sixteen years ago) link

Yeah I mean it's probably not good for my career longevity but I have a habit of saying really critical things about the mgt here just as I'm coming around a corner or into a room with someone from the mgmt team. Loudly. I figure you only have to be nice to the people below you; the people above you can take care of themselves.

Laurel, Wednesday, 13 February 2008 16:44 (sixteen years ago) link

Fortunately I'm not professionally ambitious.

Laurel, Wednesday, 13 February 2008 16:44 (sixteen years ago) link

More secrets in the next cube!! OMG what can it be that they're whispering about?

MUST QUIT NOW

daria-g, Thursday, 14 February 2008 21:46 (sixteen years ago) link

Ugh I hate stage-whispered gossip at work. Its impossible to concentrate and not think "are they bitching about me or something?"

Trayce, Thursday, 14 February 2008 22:50 (sixteen years ago) link

So there was this total brick, just a goomba (overnights in a grocery store, we only hire mutants), and he's talking to the two Mexican women who don't speak much English...

Goomba: "Oh man...my favorite movie is Friday After Next..."
Ladies: "..."
Goomba: "Friday After Next..."
Ladies: "..."
Goomba: "Friday After Next..."
Ladies: "..."
Goomba: "Friday After Next..."
Ladies: "..."
Goomba" Well anyway! There's this scene where this guy kicks a dog and this mexican guy's like (worst Mexican accent you've ever heard) 'eehhhhh ese! that's cruelty to aaaanimals ese!"

RabiesAngentleman, Friday, 15 February 2008 11:01 (sixteen years ago) link

Not yet annoying, but our designer is currently waxing rhapsodic about tracking coyotes.

forksclovetofu, Friday, 22 February 2008 00:19 (sixteen years ago) link

"I'd kill bambi. I'd chop her up. Serve her with a peppercorn dressing."

forksclovetofu, Friday, 22 February 2008 00:20 (sixteen years ago) link

can someone tell me this: if your employee never starts up a conversation, it's always you who has to, would you bother to start talking to'em?

christ she's fucking annoying.

stevienixed, Friday, 22 February 2008 05:51 (sixteen years ago) link

Most currently annoying coworker: never emails, but comes over to drop little "requests" on me in person. She sneaks up and stands behind my chair when I have headphones on, and I never notice she's there and I'm always on ILX or something. She's probably standing there reading this right now.

Also never says thank you.

franny glass, Friday, 22 February 2008 15:43 (sixteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

60 year old co-worker. Two reasons:
- leant over the top of me and invaded my personal space
- exuded a stench of a cross between way over ripe fruit and mothballs that made me gag.

Hard like armour, Thursday, 13 March 2008 03:30 (sixteen years ago) link

I hate our receptionist for many reasons. Today's reason: we get emails from our corporate overlords in Vancouver showing us pictures of their get-togethers and stuff like that, and her comment about this month's email was "they sure don't have a lot of white people working there, do they?" I can't wait until they close us down.

Bryan, Thursday, 13 March 2008 03:39 (sixteen years ago) link

wow.
when are you moving here?

The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Thursday, 13 March 2008 05:08 (sixteen years ago) link

Maybe soon. Actually thinking about it if I decide not to move to Vancouver and can't find anything cool here.

Bryan, Thursday, 13 March 2008 14:04 (sixteen years ago) link

I'm just going to send you this...have you got speakers on your computer...you'll need them...I've just sent it you...have you got it?...[computer bleeps]...is that it?...did I send it to you?...you'll need speakers...it's sooooo great...tell me when you've got it...

'It' turns out to be a slide show of cute animals and sunsets set to Celine Dion singing "I'm Alive".

Ned Trifle II, Thursday, 13 March 2008 14:16 (sixteen years ago) link

Go on, turn it up!

Ned Trifle II, Thursday, 13 March 2008 14:18 (sixteen years ago) link

"How do you pronounce this company? It's spelt: W-Y-E-D-E-A-N."

Are you frickin' kidding me?

Upt0eleven, Tuesday, 25 March 2008 11:49 (sixteen years ago) link

why-eh-dee-en?

kingkongvsgodzilla, Tuesday, 25 March 2008 11:55 (sixteen years ago) link

Arrrrrh this office is like an OVEN (plus I just walked back from the town centre and am pretty damn unfit) you cannot really be cold please turn the fan heater off please please oh god

/sizzle

(it is a grey but pleasant spring day out there, the windows are all shut, and there is never any air circulation in this room anyway)

a passing spacecadet, Wednesday, 2 April 2008 12:25 (sixteen years ago) link

Also it might be slightly more acceptable for you to put your jacket on than me to take my shirt off, especially since as hinted in previous post I currently resemble a fat red sweaty warthog

a passing spacecadet, Wednesday, 2 April 2008 12:27 (sixteen years ago) link

I thought the people of ILX would appreciate that mental image, especially at lunchtime

a passing spacecadet, Wednesday, 2 April 2008 12:28 (sixteen years ago) link

our scouse friend,

"actually i'm offended by the stereotyping of scousers"

later, talking about multiplayer video games

"i'll cheat whenever i can me, i'm always cheating i love it"

Ste, Wednesday, 2 April 2008 12:29 (sixteen years ago) link

I'm gonna vent:

I already woke up in a slightly off mood, but now I'm full blown. My boss yelled at me (and everyone else, I wasn't singled out) for I don't even know what -- maybe because his computer is broke? Maybe because his insurance doesn't cover certain meds anymore? I don't know. He has apologized, but, you know, way to start off the day, Captain.

My co-worker, who is FINALLY getting married this Saturday (I have to go, too.) is really annoying me! For the past year, she's been taking work time to plan this fucker. An hour here, a morning there, half-days, whole days -- every week, all of the time! Apparently, this has got to be as important to us as it is her. At first, I was happy for her. I did the calligraphy on her invites, even. Now, I have to fake the happiness. Too, she comes into work, not really knowing what's going on, behind on her work and she's, get this, GRUMPY AT US. And why?

I'm tired of these people bringin' me down, man!
Amen -- I'm done, venting over!

Ai Lien, Wednesday, 2 April 2008 16:41 (sixteen years ago) link

Next up, you'll probably have to hear about her pregnancy and coo over ultrasound pictures!

kate78, Wednesday, 2 April 2008 17:37 (sixteen years ago) link

i finally got to move to a cube that isn't next to ANYONE, with a WINDOW, where it is quiet and I can sleep during 45 minutes of my lunch break. thank god.

akm, Wednesday, 2 April 2008 17:48 (sixteen years ago) link

Me: "I'm sure that admin snafu on the meeting notification was just a simple mistake."
Paranoid Conspiracy Obsessed Guy: "Ah! But that's what they want you to think!"
Me: "???"

snoball, Wednesday, 2 April 2008 17:49 (sixteen years ago) link

My co-worker, who is FINALLY getting married this Saturday (I have to go, too.)

It's not at the Doubletree, is it?

Pleasant Plains, Wednesday, 2 April 2008 18:41 (sixteen years ago) link

It seems like an unusual office atmosphere where you can't just send polite "regrets" to a colleague's wedding invite...?

Laurel, Wednesday, 2 April 2008 18:43 (sixteen years ago) link

PLEASE TAKE YOUR PHONE OFF OF CONFERENCE LADY ON OTHER SIDE OF CUBE WALL

bell_labs, Wednesday, 2 April 2008 18:46 (sixteen years ago) link

So how do you pronounce Wyedean?

The Yellow Kid, Wednesday, 2 April 2008 19:23 (sixteen years ago) link

No, P.P., it's not at the Doubletree -- are you going to one there? I guess the part of the wedding I am looking forward to is the band that she hired to play the reception. They are call 1-900 and they're from Memphis. Apparently they do "funk, soul, and R&B jams". Maybe I can embarrass her with my "awesome" dance moves?

I work for a judge, there's only five of us in this office, so, you know, it's intimate and you actually get to know people. And I like my co-worker, but for the past year, yikes! The judge is officiating, so at least I'll know someone there.

Ai Lien, Wednesday, 2 April 2008 19:58 (sixteen years ago) link

ok this woman won't let me schedule a meeting from either 4:30-5:30 pm (she has an evening thing) thurs OR 9-10 am (because, the last time she rushed to a meeting at 9, she broke her arm). AND she has a "private appointment" on her calendar 1-3. AND she got hired instead of me for her position. AND she is super condescending to me all the time and i dislike her muchly.

bell_labs, Wednesday, 2 April 2008 20:00 (sixteen years ago) link

Let's off her.

Laurel, Wednesday, 2 April 2008 20:01 (sixteen years ago) link

it is so stupid how far you can get with an mba and no actual skills with doing your job/interacting with humans

bell_labs, Wednesday, 2 April 2008 20:04 (sixteen years ago) link

what do they even teach you in mba school

bell_labs, Wednesday, 2 April 2008 20:06 (sixteen years ago) link

xp Try borderline illiteracy, a complete inability to correctly capitalize or punctuate emails, and no evidence that your question has actually been read or understood.

Laurel, Wednesday, 2 April 2008 20:06 (sixteen years ago) link

mba's=aliens. for real.

Mr. Que, Wednesday, 2 April 2008 20:06 (sixteen years ago) link

a complete inability to correctly capitalize or punctuate emails

:x

sleep, Wednesday, 2 April 2008 20:08 (sixteen years ago) link

wait nevermind, i guess my work emails are actually flawless 99% of the time
other emails not so much

sleep, Wednesday, 2 April 2008 20:13 (sixteen years ago) link

i am so certain i do not want an mba. i need to figure out another easily obtained fancy sounding professional designation because i was specifically told i look "terrible on paper". ;_;

bell_labs, Wednesday, 2 April 2008 20:16 (sixteen years ago) link

what do they even teach you in mba school

-- bell_labs, Wednesday, 2 April 2008 20:06 (2 minutes ago) Link

How to dress for SUCCESS

Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Wednesday, 2 April 2008 20:18 (sixteen years ago) link

I'm soooooo ready for my new job with a CHEF in house and a deck on the roof and bike storage

Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Wednesday, 2 April 2008 20:19 (sixteen years ago) link

braggin ^

Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Wednesday, 2 April 2008 20:21 (sixteen years ago) link

we have multiple "chefs" in house at our staff caf and guess what they all suck

bell_labs, Wednesday, 2 April 2008 20:22 (sixteen years ago) link

hmm CFA designation? seems to require no school and may be meaningless?

bell_labs, Wednesday, 2 April 2008 20:30 (sixteen years ago) link

we have multiple "chefs" in house at our staff caf and guess what they all suck

-- bell_labs, Wednesday, April 2, 2008 4:22 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

free lunch, not a caf

the office is basically laid on like a bunch of big desk islands around a kitchen / dining / meeting area

Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Wednesday, 2 April 2008 20:31 (sixteen years ago) link

googling CFA leads me to this much more adorable career path http://www.cfainc.org/

bell_labs, Wednesday, 2 April 2008 20:33 (sixteen years ago) link

O.K., I've got a fresh gripe.

I've been helping our court reporter, transcribing for $1/page. I've done about 8 hours work on this one particular hearing so far. She just discovered that she's already transcribed it, so "Nevermind, maybe I can pay you less?" NO.

Ai Lien, Wednesday, 2 April 2008 20:40 (sixteen years ago) link

free lunch, not a caf

the office is basically laid on like a bunch of big desk islands around a kitchen / dining / meeting area

lol boiler room

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 2 April 2008 20:48 (sixteen years ago) link

"Oh, look. My house was already painted. Can we just call the whole thing off?"

Pleasant Plains, Wednesday, 2 April 2008 20:49 (sixteen years ago) link

(And my dad's the one going to the Doubletree. It was just weird hearing you talk about going to a wedding this weekend mere seconds after I had just got off the phone with him.)

http://www.wickfordgourmet.com/images/catering_seafood.jpg

Pleasant Plains, Wednesday, 2 April 2008 20:59 (sixteen years ago) link

I kind of miss my office mate from like 3 years ago. She had an affectation where she talked like she was in a Jane Austen novel and refused to live in the modern world, all because of her strict catholic convictions. She'd never heard of ordinary things like Guns 'N Roses or Lost, and often wept over the loss of old fashioned 'courtship' in our culture. She once regaled me with a long story about how her and her husband chastely flirted back in their courtin' days. Her favorite thing to do for him was to make cookies, then lick the spoon in front of him. Yep, that was how they did their flirting. SICK.

Tricksey Spinster, Wednesday, 2 April 2008 21:01 (sixteen years ago) link

the office is basically laid on like a bunch of big desk islands around a kitchen / dining / meeting area

lol boiler room

-- El Tomboto, Wednesday, April 2, 2008 4:48 PM (14 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

The company's parent company also owns a hedge fund on the floor above us. People were ROLLERBLADING on the SMOKED GLASS floor wtf 1990s

Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Wednesday, 2 April 2008 21:04 (sixteen years ago) link

well, that sounds horrible.

does anyone know anything about cfa vs. msf designations?

bell_labs, Wednesday, 2 April 2008 21:13 (sixteen years ago) link

Why do you hate rollerblading?

Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Wednesday, 2 April 2008 21:24 (sixteen years ago) link

Funny when geeks at work think that the height of coolness is sighing loudly every 30 seconds, rubbish sarcasm, moaning about the IT system and generally being really exasperated by the slightest thing.

LOL, 45 year old guy who still lives with his mum acting like Kevin The Teenager if he walked around all day holding a clipboard.

Bodrick III, Wednesday, 2 April 2008 21:31 (sixteen years ago) link

i just want a quiet office where i can lock myself away from my annoying coworkers.

bell_labs, Wednesday, 2 April 2008 21:35 (sixteen years ago) link

the woman i hate is complaining to my boss vaguely about me. uhm i can hear you. luckily my boss is not having it.

bell_labs, Wednesday, 2 April 2008 21:46 (sixteen years ago) link

man, this thread makes me...not happy, so much as feeling like every day I dodge a hail of bullets.

Rock Hardy, Wednesday, 2 April 2008 21:53 (sixteen years ago) link

Her favorite thing to do for him was to make cookies, then lick the spoon in front of him.

HOTTT

Jarlrmai, Wednesday, 2 April 2008 22:07 (sixteen years ago) link

Jon, that sounds like a great place.

If Timi Yuro would be still alive, most other singers could shut up, Wednesday, 2 April 2008 22:23 (sixteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

how do you deal with someone who acts like they are your boss, when they actually aren't? can i just ignore her? or be snotty all the time?

bell_labs, Friday, 18 April 2008 18:31 (sixteen years ago) link

i mean i don't know if this woman just has terrible people skills and can't ask for help with things without demanding it, or if she actually thinks she is my boss? should i talk to me real boss about this or is that a dick move?

bell_labs, Friday, 18 April 2008 18:34 (sixteen years ago) link

Can you tell her that you'd like to help but that she'll have to put in the request via your real boss?

quincie, Friday, 18 April 2008 18:44 (sixteen years ago) link

^^^^^ best way to go (tho informing your boss that this is coming might also be prudent).

I would bitch more about the co-worker that's told me twice I'll get slanted eyes if I eat too much Chinese food, but instead I'd like to give a heads-up to all of y'all in my company (about 20%, it seems) that would like me to resend tab-delimited text files as Excel spreadsheets: you can open those fuckers up in Excel. Go ahead. Give it a try.

David R., Friday, 18 April 2008 19:05 (sixteen years ago) link

haha

sleep, Friday, 18 April 2008 20:33 (sixteen years ago) link

ARGHHHHHHHHHHHH
baby boomers and computers DON'T MIX

bell_labs, Friday, 18 April 2008 20:38 (sixteen years ago) link

and they yell at me when computers don't perform magical and outlandish tasks

bell_labs, Friday, 18 April 2008 20:41 (sixteen years ago) link

i am going to have to stay two hours late on a friday AGAIN arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrh

this is like the 4th friday in a row

bell_labs, Friday, 18 April 2008 20:56 (sixteen years ago) link

you sound poor

Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Friday, 18 April 2008 21:27 (sixteen years ago) link

classy.

bell_labs, Friday, 18 April 2008 21:34 (sixteen years ago) link


If you don't stop the constant harrassment of Lindsay I will call the police, your parents, and your employer.

^ classy

Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Friday, 18 April 2008 21:38 (sixteen years ago) link

It's not that often you actually get to watch someone slit their throat to spite their stomach. It might be some kind of record.

Laurel, Friday, 18 April 2008 21:51 (sixteen years ago) link

I would bitch more about the co-worker that's told me twice I'll get slanted eyes if I eat too much Chinese food

uh worse: the box office people at my job who say they are eating 'terrorist food' when they get halal

tehresa, Saturday, 19 April 2008 02:00 (sixteen years ago) link

Yeah, that's a winner.

Because I'm an intolerant ass, here are topics of conversation I could do without hearing from co-workers ever again:

- dogs as surrogates for children (cf. cat-ladyesque talk about "my babies")
- UConn women's basketball
- Connecticut Sun basketball
- drama concerning my boss' greyhound society
- anything related to visiting any Disney theme park
- bitching about what a drain kids are on the pocketbook
- lottery tickets
- whatever the hell that old bald guy talks about when he lingers in my group cube talking to the other ladies for 20+ minutes @ a time
- whatever comes out of the mouth of the dottering scatterbrained hyper-apologetic cubemate that takes 30 seconds to finish a thought and includes the name of the person she's talking to at the end of nearly every sentence

That said, this is the most enjoyable job I've had since graduating, and we have each other's back (personal foibles notwithstanding), and if I had to directly work with the other shitwits I deal with from time to time, I would start keying cars.

David R., Saturday, 19 April 2008 03:00 (sixteen years ago) link

please to see fyi i am working from hell thread for my list of office woes

tehresa, Saturday, 19 April 2008 03:01 (sixteen years ago) link

Y'know how it is that when someone who doesn't work in yr group or whom you support or work for discovers that you can solve a problem or two of theirs? E.g., you fix the broken Internet on their computer or something, and now you are the go-to guy for every computer problem they have?

Well, those people annoy me.

libcrypt, Tuesday, 22 April 2008 18:51 (sixteen years ago) link

Yea, esp when people are already PAYING central IT to do desktop support.

Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Tuesday, 22 April 2008 18:59 (sixteen years ago) link

So, you know, when a co-worker says heinous things (like the Chinese food comment, or the terrorist food thing), do you say something or do you just let it go, that it's not worth the time to even try?

We've got one of those people who says horrible things ALL OF THE TIME. At first, we were like, "Oh, she's old, she doesn't know better, blah blah." But, sometimes I suspect she knows exactly what she's doing. I plan to write a zine about her one day.

Ai Lien, Tuesday, 22 April 2008 19:18 (sixteen years ago) link

I just came in from lunch, and had to call 911 about a trash can fire in the smoking section. Nice work, nicojunkies!

Oilyrags, Tuesday, 22 April 2008 19:40 (sixteen years ago) link

So, you know, when a co-worker says heinous things (like the Chinese food comment, or the terrorist food thing), do you say something or do you just let it go, that it's not worth the time to even try?

Totally not worth it -- the first time it happened (the Chinese food thing), I tried to play it off in an oh-geez come-on way that probably came off as tsk-tsk chiding, and she was like "I was just kidding, geez," like I'm some sort of square. (NB: I am a square.) Second time, I think I just let it slide.

Granted, most of the folks I work w/ are twenty-plus years older than me (33) or are crotchety enough to be that old, so trying to open up that line of conversation with co-workers I want nothing to do with outside of work is an isle of fun I'd rather not visit ever -- that's what my pops is for.

Then there's today's little nugget involving two different folks: cubemate comes in, notices that this white car took our boss' usual parking spot. Said cubemate says the guy was black, "with braids." Says someone else almost immediately after that's noted: "was it the cleaning guy?" and I swear it was said with some sort of aren't-I-clever smirk.

David R., Tuesday, 22 April 2008 20:00 (sixteen years ago) link

I feel the same way, David R. I guess sometimes SOMETIMES I wish I said something just so she knows that I do care about comments like that. But in the end, it's just not worth it. Sigh, OLDER FOLKS.

Ai Lien, Tuesday, 22 April 2008 20:38 (sixteen years ago) link

'Is Worcester near Middlesbrough? How about Cambridge? Gloucester?'

GAAAAAAAAAAAH

It's too early in the day for this woman to be driving me this crazy.

Upt0eleven, Wednesday, 23 April 2008 09:21 (sixteen years ago) link

one month passes...

"That's the fifth sneeze I've done today!"

Upt0eleven, Friday, 6 June 2008 10:54 (fifteen years ago) link

holding secret wispering conversations in the office is possibly one of the rudest ill mannered work social faux parrs ever.

Ste, Thursday, 12 June 2008 10:27 (fifteen years ago) link

God I know.

Mark C, Thursday, 12 June 2008 15:16 (fifteen years ago) link

Irritating-guy-whom-I-thought-had-left-but-somehow-is-back: "Alright then? Are you 'avin' fish and chips for lunch then? Fish and chips? Are you married? Got any kids? This weather eh? Eh? Eh? 'Avin' fish and chips for lunch then? Eh? How's your wife? Are you married then?" (repeat ad fucking nauseum)

snoball, Thursday, 12 June 2008 15:19 (fifteen years ago) link

This job's pros outweigh the cons, MOST OF THE TIME.

Our bailiff has no interest in doing any of his duties or protecting us. When he's here, he's wandering the building chatting up anyone & everybody. It's usually the law clerk or myself sounding the halls for hearings. If there is someone unruly in the courtroom, we call on other bailiffs from other divisions. You would think my boss, the judge, would fire him, but we don't really understand why he hasn't yet. Really.

The bailiff's idea of helping us out is answering the phone only to put them on hold for us to deal with. It's especially annoying when you reach for the phone to answer, but he's "beaten" you to it. Thanks for the two second delay, man!

When we are not holding court, he uses his troubled teenage son to not be here. There is always something he needs to tend to, but we know he's just sleeping in.

He's late everyday, even when we hold court.

He doesn't know how to do simple computer tasks that we should all know -- he figures that we can do it, there's no need for him to know.

Again, I don't know why he hasn't been fired. Our guess is that the judge doesn't want to be surrounded by females only AND he doesn't want to go through the trouble of searching for a new employee. Bullshit.

Ai Lien, Thursday, 12 June 2008 15:52 (fifteen years ago) link

OMG, I forgot this one. When we get a little frazzled from having to do pretty much everything, he says things like, "You obviously can't handle this job." This coming from someone who brings nothing to the table. It's infuriating.

Ai Lien, Thursday, 12 June 2008 15:54 (fifteen years ago) link

In my previous job (where I currently work is great, and they just bought me a shiny new computer which I'm now abusing to visit ILE), I used to find a quiet spot in my lunch breaks to read a book. This reading-a-book business was viewed as wildly freakish behaviour, and led to several people calling me "Professor", and they would seek me out to ask me what I was reading, how I was liking it, what was it about, etc, while I'm being all polite and thinking "Fuck off and let me read!".

These workmates were all journalists. If the sight of somebody READING blew their minds, no wonder the media's as fucked as it is.

James Morrison, Friday, 13 June 2008 00:43 (fifteen years ago) link

Thats bizarre!

Trayce, Friday, 13 June 2008 00:55 (fifteen years ago) link

"the price of gas now!"
"iiii KNOW!"

robertwolf8080, Friday, 13 June 2008 00:58 (fifteen years ago) link

I had to remove the games from everyone's computers the other day, and change them to opendns so their sites are gonna be seriously filtered. I bet they were bitching about me :( (no one has sold out ilxor in the forums category of opendns yet btw)

bnw, Friday, 13 June 2008 01:15 (fifteen years ago) link

I managed to give myself admin privileges as part of getting the new computer. Huzzah!

James Morrison, Friday, 13 June 2008 03:07 (fifteen years ago) link

Wow, journalists freaking out about reading makes me want to scream.

what's an opendn?

Maria, Friday, 13 June 2008 12:46 (fifteen years ago) link

These workmates were all journalists. If the sight of somebody READING blew their minds, no wonder the media's as fucked as it is.

-- James Morrison, Friday, 13 June 2008 10:43 (2 days ago) Bookmark Link

n3ws c0rp amirite

Autumn Almanac, Sunday, 15 June 2008 00:12 (fifteen years ago) link

Haha I forgot JM was a mongrel and I bet you are right. :)

Trayce, Sunday, 15 June 2008 00:26 (fifteen years ago) link

Alas, no - it was the bloody ABC!

James Morrison, Sunday, 15 June 2008 04:08 (fifteen years ago) link

OK waht.

Trayce, Sunday, 15 June 2008 04:34 (fifteen years ago) link

Sad, yes. The only person who actually seemed to read was the newsreader (no pun intended) Dominique Schwartz (who was actually pretty lovely).

James Morrison, Sunday, 15 June 2008 12:47 (fifteen years ago) link

co-worker just pulled off the annoying trifecta: 1) smoking in non-designated area (ie 5 ft from me trying to enjoy the beautiful day on my break) 2) had her ginormous SUV idling away whilst doing said smoking 3) took up 2 parking spots with said ginormous SUV. hats off to ya!

Granny Dainger, Thursday, 19 June 2008 21:43 (fifteen years ago) link

Fuck! Kill the bitch.

Autumn Almanac, Thursday, 19 June 2008 21:46 (fifteen years ago) link

how does my co-worker manage to chew so loudly?
she makes horribly smacking noises and talks on the phone with her mouth full seemingly ALL DAY. usually bitching at her husband about something.

bell_labs, Wednesday, 25 June 2008 20:02 (fifteen years ago) link

how do i not blow up and scream?

i admit i have a weird issue with chewing noises but arbghaghotiglfm,x,g;sdas

bell_labs, Wednesday, 25 June 2008 20:04 (fifteen years ago) link

These workmates were all journalists. If the sight of somebody READING blew their minds, no wonder the media's as fucked as it is.

haha lol - i witnessed undergrad convocation last week and srsly the people graduating with journalism degrees were of two kinds and yes i am mean but i tell the truth: "on-air talent" and "media nerds" with the former outweighing the latter

rrrobyn, Wednesday, 25 June 2008 20:05 (fifteen years ago) link

agh chewing noises noooo

rrrobyn, Wednesday, 25 June 2008 20:06 (fifteen years ago) link

i think she is eating carrot sticks or something. and has been doing so for the last 45 minutes. i am about to explode.

bell_labs, Wednesday, 25 June 2008 20:10 (fifteen years ago) link

Don't you have headphones?

Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Wednesday, 25 June 2008 20:14 (fifteen years ago) link

ew chewing noises are the worst, and sadly headphones aren't allowed in this office anymore. people eating with their mouths wide open SHOOT TO KILL!

Ste, Thursday, 26 June 2008 08:47 (fifteen years ago) link

Who the hell outlaws headphones?

Autumn Almanac, Thursday, 26 June 2008 08:53 (fifteen years ago) link

sadly headphones aren't allowed in this office anymore.
srsly I'd quit if they did that here!

Colonel Poo, Thursday, 26 June 2008 08:53 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah one guy kinda ruined it for everyone while he sat there oblivious to his telephone ringing, and also trying to get peoples attention when they were in a world of their own was slightly frustrating sometimes.

i stand by the ban.

Ste, Thursday, 26 June 2008 08:58 (fifteen years ago) link

ahhhhhhh she's snacking again

bell_labs, Thursday, 26 June 2008 14:55 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah one guy kinda ruined it for everyone while he sat there oblivious to his telephone ringing, and also trying to get peoples attention when they were in a world of their own was slightly frustrating sometimes.

i stand by the ban.

-- Ste, Thursday, June 26, 2008 3:58 AM (Thursday, June 26, 2008 3:58 AM) Bookmark Link

It's called "Trillian".

Pleasant Plains, Thursday, 26 June 2008 15:20 (fifteen years ago) link

i bitch at co-workers who do this. if dumb-fuck next do me manages to make it so i can't listen to my music there will be no end to the world of suffering i will inflict upon him.

The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Thursday, 26 June 2008 15:34 (fifteen years ago) link

she is slurping her YOGURT

bell_labs, Thursday, 26 June 2008 16:50 (fifteen years ago) link

It must take extra effort to eat yogurt at any volume other than "whisper quiet".

kingkongvsgodzilla, Thursday, 26 June 2008 16:51 (fifteen years ago) link

srsly I'd quit if they did that here!

-- Colonel Poo, Thursday, June 26, 2008 3:53 AM (Thursday, June 26, 2008 3:53 AM) Bookmark Link

they're pretty much mandatory around here. almost all conversations are done via im. you might here a phone ring in here every 3 days or so.

chicago kevin, Thursday, 26 June 2008 16:52 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah headphones and music are frowned upon here :(

bell_labs, Thursday, 26 June 2008 16:55 (fifteen years ago) link

this woman is going to disneyworld with her 1 year old child. what the hell do you do with a 1 year old at disneyworld?!

bell_labs, Thursday, 26 June 2008 16:58 (fifteen years ago) link

if i didn't listen to wfmu or the oblivians all day i'd probably die of boredom.

xpost- abandon it?

chicago kevin, Thursday, 26 June 2008 16:59 (fifteen years ago) link

i will abandon it in like a year when i finish school and can get a better job!

bell_labs, Thursday, 26 June 2008 17:00 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah, abandon that too.

chicago kevin, Thursday, 26 June 2008 17:02 (fifteen years ago) link

quitting a job you absolutely HATE feels so fucking good.

chicago kevin, Thursday, 26 June 2008 17:03 (fifteen years ago) link

wait abandon what now?

bell_labs, Thursday, 26 June 2008 17:03 (fifteen years ago) link

i just want my own office. actually, i don't even care if about that. i want them to give HER her own office.

bell_labs, Thursday, 26 June 2008 17:05 (fifteen years ago) link

she is slurping her YOGURT
this woman is going to disneyworld

wtf -- bell_labs, if this woman talks non-stop about women's basketball or her weight-related health issues, let me know, because I think I have her long-lost twin not 15 feet from me.

David R., Thursday, 26 June 2008 17:12 (fifteen years ago) link

Childless is indignantly shouting to me about some reality show called "Baby Borrowers" as we speak. She has been going on for about eight minutes in spite of the fact that I'm obviously not listening.

Hurting 2, Thursday, 26 June 2008 17:25 (fifteen years ago) link

Childless woman, sorry.

Hurting 2, Thursday, 26 June 2008 17:26 (fifteen years ago) link

Ok, she's switched to complaining about the temperature.

Hurting 2, Thursday, 26 June 2008 17:28 (fifteen years ago) link

she is slurping her YOGURT

just reading this made me feel like barfing

i don't know, the thing is that this is maddening shit that can fill all frequencies but at the same time in the great scheme of things it is totally minor shit that you can over-ride with your very own mind/being. yeah i know i say it a lot but: this is why i do yoga/meditation stuff. if i didn't i wld explode and kill a yogurt-slurpin' ho

rrrobyn, Thursday, 26 June 2008 17:42 (fifteen years ago) link

i've been slacking on yoga this week so maybe that's my problem (i just typed oysters instead of yoga while i was writing that, for a better idea of what is really on my mind)

bell_labs, Thursday, 26 June 2008 17:44 (fifteen years ago) link

haha

oysters are good

you should eat them at her desk

rrrobyn, Thursday, 26 June 2008 17:46 (fifteen years ago) link

SSSLLLLURRRRRRRRP

Laurel, Thursday, 26 June 2008 17:46 (fifteen years ago) link

SSSSSSCHLUUUUUUUUUURRRRRRRP

Laurel, Thursday, 26 June 2008 17:47 (fifteen years ago) link

weirdly, i have a can of smoked tuna sitting on the other side of my desk
it isn't opened tho
there is a tomato sitting on top of it
xpost
GROSSSS

rrrobyn, Thursday, 26 June 2008 17:47 (fifteen years ago) link

Work-slurping is like an irregular dripping faucet -- just when you think the storm's passed, and you're ready to stop bracing yourself for the next one, SCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCHURLP comes out of the silence to just make you weep.

David R., Thursday, 26 June 2008 17:49 (fifteen years ago) link

haha i am totally going to bring in a bucket of oysters one day and shuck and slurp them at my desk.

it will be awesome.

bell_labs, Thursday, 26 June 2008 17:53 (fifteen years ago) link

God-damned son-of-a-bitch. Co-worker of mine is totally trying to face me. Here I am trying to carefully develop a webapp w/Oracle and Struts that's extensible, etc., and he w/o telling me or anyone else cooks up a super-quick no-security stripped-down version of it using PHP and MySQL in 2 weeks while I have nothing to show for my efforts except a schema. Now I have to convince my boss and my boss's boss who just congratulated him that my vaporware is really superior to his existing product.

libcrypt, Thursday, 26 June 2008 23:47 (fifteen years ago) link

trying, perhaps

libcrypt, Thursday, 26 June 2008 23:48 (fifteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

I was *highly* recommended to watch Seed, a horror movie, by my work friend last week. His words "it's so scary I dare you to watch it on your own"

what a div, worst film ever.

Ste, Monday, 14 July 2008 08:59 (fifteen years ago) link

OK, they're very nice people, but why do the three people in the next office have to talk LOUDLY and CONSTANTLY about their children (all are single parents) all day long? And why have 2 of the 3 of them been bringing in their kids to work EVERY DAY for the last 1 1/2 weeks now that it's school holidays? Is this normal, people with kids? Aren't you supposed to leave them at home, preferably with someone else looking after them?

James Morrison, Thursday, 17 July 2008 05:12 (fifteen years ago) link

Children of coworkers at work are the worst.

My bosses, abuncha dickhead MDs, throw a holiday party for the staff every year. We're not allowed to bring our partners, but the doctor's kids are running around everywhere. We even have to buy our own drinks.

kate78, Thursday, 17 July 2008 05:28 (fifteen years ago) link

It's not even 10am on Monday morning and I've already loudly asked a 'colleague' to stop insinuating that I'm "fucking stupid", then had my former manager whispering gossip with said colleague whilst I'm not even three metres away. I love Mondays!

James Mitchell, Monday, 21 July 2008 08:30 (fifteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

OK, I am pretty sure this was the course of events @ my work. At a staff happy hour not long after I started, I spoke briefly with this guy in another department, who introduced himself as.. let's say "James." Next day we were on the elevator & I said hi, how are you.. James, is it? and he's like "no" and all pissy. And is one of those few people here who don't even acknowledge your existence if you say "good morning" to them. I just checked the internal staff page and his name actually IS "James." WTF

daria-g, Friday, 8 August 2008 18:56 (fifteen years ago) link

Maybe he prefers "Jimmy"

Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Friday, 8 August 2008 19:35 (fifteen years ago) link

or "Jimbo"

or maybe it was his twin?

The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Friday, 8 August 2008 19:37 (fifteen years ago) link

Jimbaroony?

kingkongvsgodzilla, Friday, 8 August 2008 19:39 (fifteen years ago) link

"Ji"

The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Friday, 8 August 2008 20:01 (fifteen years ago) link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0w2xTexfAg

velko, Friday, 8 August 2008 20:05 (fifteen years ago) link

I used to have this co-worker who was the least self-sufficient employee, used to always complain "nobody showed her" how to do things that she had been shown four or five times, and would deny she made mistakes that were proven in black and white.

Despite her imperfections, felt it necessary to rat other people out all the time, and was a complete drama queen.

Thank God she was fired in the end.

Bo Jackson Overdrive, Saturday, 9 August 2008 17:28 (fifteen years ago) link

i'm not really sure how to deal with the guy who clips his nails at least twice a day. he has eyeballs of rage.

friendly ghost, Saturday, 9 August 2008 17:55 (fifteen years ago) link

fired in the end

This sounds familiar. Why is it that the one skill that blatantly incompetent people seem to have is an ability to not get fired for ages? I remember one salesman who hung on for months before he was "let go" (example mistake: he sent myself and the company's MD to a new client's offices, only for us to find a demolition site there because the salesman had given us the old address). I asked my then boss (who was not the salesman's boss) when he'd be fired, and the boss just answered "our pain will continue".

snoball, Saturday, 9 August 2008 18:02 (fifteen years ago) link

Every two weeks, I prepare a list of reports I've received that we should bill. I gave this list in last Tuesday and went camping for a few days… when I got back yesterday, it was discovered that a co-worker of mine hadn't turned in a couple days' worth of work. He's on the road right now and while generally unreliable, is friendly enough. He "tried" to send it last night, it didn't go through. My co-worker has been talking about these reports NON STOP. These missing reports are the highlights of her week... month... year?? I sent him a text just now---OMG I just overheard her mention it to ANOTHER person while I was typing this!!--asking him to make sure he sends it tonight just to shut her up! She even made a CHART outlining exactly which reports are missing, so that I can CHECK THE LIST against what he sends, like this is some sort of Illuminati cover up? This is not THAT important.

Finefinemusic, Tuesday, 12 August 2008 18:48 (fifteen years ago) link

a "writer/editor" at my last job (at a senior level of course) was so incompetent, I had to correct her work before posting it to the web, because she couldn't seem to understand that once it was posted, it made lots of unnecessary extra work when she would print all the pages off the web and mark them up again for more changes. got paid a hell of a lot more than me for basically causing chaos and making everything several times harder than it needed to be. also mouthed off to sr management in meetings in a really rude, combative way.. assistant vp and then the vp of our department both tried to get her fired.. couldn't make it happen. academia!

daria-g, Tuesday, 12 August 2008 19:12 (fifteen years ago) link

"George Bush is telling them to get out of Russia... well why doesn't he get out of afGHANISTAN?!? Idiot."

robertwolf8080, Monday, 18 August 2008 23:40 (fifteen years ago) link

wow - so the wrong thread!

The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Tuesday, 19 August 2008 01:08 (fifteen years ago) link

i r good koworker

The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Tuesday, 19 August 2008 01:08 (fifteen years ago) link

hi guys i brought my stories back
http://welcometotheworkingweek.tumblr.com/

they are now anonymized :(

the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Tuesday, 19 August 2008 16:57 (fifteen years ago) link

How many more times is this guy next to me going to listen to Ozzy's "Crazy Train"? I mean it's great song but for god's sake I hear it coming from his headphones EVERY DAY. Talk about the kind of people who buy like 3 CD's a year!

Bimble, Wednesday, 20 August 2008 21:22 (fifteen years ago) link

lol "Norman!"

El Tomboto, Thursday, 21 August 2008 00:04 (fifteen years ago) link

I feel like this about the person who has Del tha Funkee Homosapien's Mr Dubbolina as their mobile ringtone, and who always gets lots of calls, and who leaves said phone at their desk while they go out for hours on end.

James Morrison, Thursday, 21 August 2008 00:14 (fifteen years ago) link

Love that blog, by the way. Post often!

James Morrison, Thursday, 21 August 2008 00:14 (fifteen years ago) link

I wish my work shit was less mundane -- instead of "fun" stories about rampant sexual harassment and porn viewing, I only have dopey hour-long conference calls about creating a report without specs where I'm asked a) when I can expect to have the report created (again, WITHOUT ANY SPECS) and b) to make sure that the data for the new report is taken directly from data gathered by another report, as if the data for both reports doesn't reside in the same database and instead appears magically in the air the 3rd Wednesday of every month like a constellation or St. Elmo's Fire (also PS: GIVE ME SPECS YOU TRIFLING BITCHES).

I'm looking forward to getting the specs the week after the report is needed, and then getting 25 e-mails a day asking when the report will be done.

David R., Thursday, 21 August 2008 00:27 (fifteen years ago) link

David R - did you get the memo?

Finefinemusic, Thursday, 21 August 2008 00:37 (fifteen years ago) link

What, you mean the one about the 3:30 meeting you sent @ 3:35?

David R., Thursday, 21 August 2008 00:59 (fifteen years ago) link

No, about the TPS reports.

Finefinemusic, Thursday, 21 August 2008 01:14 (fifteen years ago) link

u_u

David R., Thursday, 21 August 2008 01:42 (fifteen years ago) link

My boss likes to make TPS jokes too.

"Hey, I'm going to need you to fill out an absence form for that day you took off for your colonoscopy.

And I'm going to need you to get those TPS reports to me soon, yeah. (LOL)"

Pleasant Plains, Thursday, 21 August 2008 03:10 (fifteen years ago) link

This guy in my previous job was 100%, no filler, nutbar psycholoony. He would spend hours yelling in the toilets at the top of his voice to invisible enemies! The whole building would shake! People would come to our section and ask our team leader to get him to simmer down. Did he do any work? None whatsoever. He just alternated between muttering and screaming. He'd been 'working' there for years and still was when I left the organisation. What did the organisation do with him? Put him in the section that DEALT WITH THE PUBLIC. Who happened to be (by nature of our department) people who were there because they'd been traumatised in some way. GOOD JOB PEOPLE.

So, he would sit there with these poor clients in a room - just him and the client - waiting for someone to arrive to help the client, and who knows what he was doing? Usually, muttering paranoid crap to himself, and that was on a good day. He must've scared these poor people to death. Unsackable. Too difficult apparently.

moley, Thursday, 21 August 2008 04:03 (fifteen years ago) link

Once he started talking to himself out loud - about me!! Something like this: 'Oh yeah, I can see through him alright, he's not fooling me. He's not fooling me, no. I can see right through him. Calls himself a f-ing (insert my job name here) - but I'm not fooled'. Etc. I turned around and gave him the Blue Steel look. That shut him up. then I said, 'Think it, mate, but don't say it. After all, I'm right here. Show some f-ing manners'. He just nodded and was quiet for about an hour before starting up again - about something or someone else.

Obviously, one had to have lots of sympathy for this guy - it was unavoidable as he was clearly suffering - but he made an extremely difficult job twice as difficult just by showing up. He was so mad his face was a red as beetroot. He could easily have killed us all, it was definitely on the cards. But unsackable.

moley, Thursday, 21 August 2008 04:11 (fifteen years ago) link

An ex of mine worked with a schizophrenic. Guy was on meds so he was resonably ok most of thr time... but now and then he'd do things like measure the windows of their (12th floor or so) office and then muse aloud "if I threw a chair at this window and jumped, would I die from here d'you think?".

Trayce, Thursday, 21 August 2008 04:17 (fifteen years ago) link

Oh bless us RUNNING PLAY-BY-PLAY of the US Women's Basketball Olympic game. The one time showing up late was actually a good thing.

David R., Thursday, 21 August 2008 13:38 (fifteen years ago) link

Dear Greek guy in adjacent office separated from me by plasterboard, who finished his PhD six months ago and is just hanging around to use the internet and phone because he didn't get an academic job but doesn't want to return to Greece:

STOP BELLOWING INTO YOUR FUCKING PHONE OR I WILL HAVE YOU DEPORTED.

caek, Thursday, 21 August 2008 13:43 (fifteen years ago) link

(from the department, I know greece is an EU country)

caek, Thursday, 21 August 2008 13:43 (fifteen years ago) link

Dear loud shouting woman over in the marketing department.

Yes, I know that you are unhappy with your job and you have been for two years. I know that you are now leaving because you have found another job. I know that you are unhappy with every single aspect of this place, and generally blame every single person in this organisation that isn't you. (For EVERYTHING from the marketing budget to the temperature of the office to "meddling PAs" who are preventing you from "building relationships" with colleagues.)

Now WHY do I know all this, when you sit over 20 feet away from me? Because you have clearly never learned an INDOOR VOICE appropriate for the volume of a quiet office.

I can understand job dissatisfaction. However, your inappropriate volume levels for DEALING WITH that dissatisfaction are seriously impacing *my* ability to do my bloody job. Which I'm generally otherwise quite satisfied with.

Don't you have some bloody gardening leave you can take instead of staying here to make everyone else around you as miserable as you are?

Thanks,
The new woman in the office who doesn't need to know every detail of your life. Really.

Masonic Boom, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 10:27 (fifteen years ago) link

four weeks pass...

It's the AFL grand final tomorrow, and as I feared would happen, today has degenerated into a bunch of people throwing a nerf football around the room, singing/playing the Hawthorn club song (or is it the Geelong one? Fuck if I know). And I had a football thrown at me as soon as I walked in.

So I dropkicked it right into the guys chest and almost winded him.

Trayce, Thursday, 25 September 2008 23:26 (fifteen years ago) link

You are my hero!

James Morrison, Thursday, 25 September 2008 23:34 (fifteen years ago) link

LOL it was quite the accident is the funniest bit! I think I impressed him, haha.

Trayce, Friday, 26 September 2008 00:03 (fifteen years ago) link

I cannot understand the fever surrounding that bloody game.

You should be an artist, in in your shower. (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 26 September 2008 00:04 (fifteen years ago) link

bloody
quite
afl (?!)

you guys are so british.

Beast, Friday, 26 September 2008 00:56 (fifteen years ago) link

Erm, we're australian, in case that wasn't obvious.

AFL = Australian Rules Football.

Trayce, Friday, 26 September 2008 01:01 (fifteen years ago) link

What is it with US elitism today?

You should be an artist, in in your shower. (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 26 September 2008 01:53 (fifteen years ago) link

My mum recently, after 55 years of solid anti-sport-ness, decided to deliberately and dedicatedly get into AFL so she could "talk to my fellow Australians like a normal person". I tried to persuade her, but she has gone ahead. Now she asks for score updates on Saturday afternoons, all that sort of thing, as though she actually cared. It's quite disturbing.

James Morrison, Friday, 26 September 2008 02:54 (fifteen years ago) link

tried to DISSUADE her. Balls!

James Morrison, Friday, 26 September 2008 02:54 (fifteen years ago) link

Yeah this whole "talk about footy like its the language of everyone" thing bugs me. I wish I could talk about bands the same way but no one cares less. Bleh.

That said my workmates at this job are all quite nice, and Ive nothing to bitch about here really. Apart from footballs to the groin chest.

Trayce, Friday, 26 September 2008 03:33 (fifteen years ago) link

OH GOD HES PLAYING THAT DAMN SONG FROM "MUSIC AND LYRICS" AGAIN HE SINGS IT EVERY SINGLE DAY I WILL KILL HIM.

Trayce, Friday, 26 September 2008 06:34 (fifteen years ago) link

People who take the elevator to go up or down ONE floor....

TAKE THE FUCKING STAIRS! the average person that does it resembles Jerome Bettis too, so you'd think they could use it.

Life Begins at Death (Bo Jackson Overdrive), Friday, 26 September 2008 12:35 (fifteen years ago) link

me: *reads ILX for an hour*
little person: "are you cleaning up the computer?" [note: this is her term for defragging]
me: "yes"
little person: "i thought so with all that gibberish on the screen"

― roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Thursday, September 8, 2005 9:56 AM (3 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

haw, i forgot this

○◙i shine cuz i genital grind◙○ (roxymuzak), Sunday, 28 September 2008 17:16 (fifteen years ago) link

Dude just will NOT shut up with his analyses of the stock market yesterday and today. Don't you have SOMETHING to do besides visit neighbors and snort at yr own awful jokes buddy?

Tetragram for Holding Back (libcrypt), Tuesday, 30 September 2008 16:26 (fifteen years ago) link

Woman across from me has been doing her own real-time DOW updates--"down 500," "oooh now it's up 300"--i don't give a fuck and could look myself if i did

What's good for Wall Street (call all destroyer), Tuesday, 30 September 2008 16:47 (fifteen years ago) link

I'm getting the Dow updates from this schmuck too.

Tetragram for Holding Back (libcrypt), Tuesday, 30 September 2008 16:54 (fifteen years ago) link

Yesterday afternoon he was shouting out Dow numbers every 5 - 10 minutes.

Tetragram for Holding Back (libcrypt), Tuesday, 30 September 2008 16:54 (fifteen years ago) link

I get that too.

Of course, I work for a business publication, so I guess it kinda comes with the territory.

☑ (Pleasant Plains), Tuesday, 30 September 2008 16:58 (fifteen years ago) link

What's that kind of pseudo-laughter where you just breathe rapidly and noisily thru yr teeth called? I am so sick of hearing that.

Tetragram for Holding Back (libcrypt), Tuesday, 30 September 2008 17:16 (fifteen years ago) link

John McCain Extended Death Rattle?

jane hussein lane (suzy), Tuesday, 30 September 2008 17:17 (fifteen years ago) link

I think I remember Shaggy sometimes laughing like this on Scooby-Doo.

Tetragram for Holding Back (libcrypt), Tuesday, 30 September 2008 17:18 (fifteen years ago) link

Or maybe Scooby.

Tetragram for Holding Back (libcrypt), Tuesday, 30 September 2008 17:18 (fifteen years ago) link

He only Scooby-laughs at his own jokes too, the jokes that NOBODY else is even smiling at. It's more like his way of letting everyone within earshot that he thinks he's being clever.

Tetragram for Holding Back (libcrypt), Tuesday, 30 September 2008 17:20 (fifteen years ago) link

Muttley Snickers

Radiant Flowering Crab (Rock Hardy), Tuesday, 30 September 2008 17:20 (fifteen years ago) link

so I'm in a brand new office, with a new set of strange new co-workers.

from what I've overheard this morning it seems like an absolute goldmine for posts to this thread.

Ant Attack |=| (Ste), Thursday, 2 October 2008 12:53 (fifteen years ago) link

Start NOW!

James Morrison, Thursday, 2 October 2008 23:30 (fifteen years ago) link

My coworker at the next desk was very loudly pretending to be the Brownlow Medal points announcer, earlier, for no particular reason. If you know anything about the Brownlow Medal count you'll know how fscking annoying that is.

Trayce, Thursday, 2 October 2008 23:31 (fifteen years ago) link

Chris Matthews looks like he hasn't slept in a couple of days.

I'm the wire monkey, not the soft monkey (Rock Hardy), Friday, 3 October 2008 00:57 (fifteen years ago) link

lol, whoops wrong thread

I'm the wire monkey, not the soft monkey (Rock Hardy), Friday, 3 October 2008 00:57 (fifteen years ago) link

haha Rock Hardy works at MSNBC
OUTED

El Tomboto, Friday, 3 October 2008 01:22 (fifteen years ago) link

lol

I'm the wire monkey, not the soft monkey (Rock Hardy), Friday, 3 October 2008 03:06 (fifteen years ago) link

HAHA

Ant Attack |=| (Ste), Friday, 3 October 2008 08:27 (fifteen years ago) link

Department merger bringing in a whole new batch of annoying. Lady goes about calling herself an “excel person” trying to school me how to performing a data sort! I didn’t ask you a damn thing so STFU! I know perfectly well what I’m doing. WHO THE FUCK IS YOU! YOURE OLD!

carne asada, Wednesday, 8 October 2008 19:52 (fifteen years ago) link

oh Wow. just now

"what's the plural for confused, is it confuseder?"

Ant Attack |=| (Ste), Thursday, 16 October 2008 09:35 (fifteen years ago) link

omg who walks into the toilets and stands at a urinal eating crisps?

Ant Attack |=| (Ste), Thursday, 16 October 2008 15:55 (fifteen years ago) link

Haha, best email I've ever received, from our company president no less:

I just walked into the men's restroom and found the most disgusting mess I've ever seen. Toilet. Clogged. No water. Lots of...you know.

I probably saw worse a few times in a junior high school bathroom but that's it.

Everyone is expected to handle their own messes. There's a plunger conveniently located next to the toilet. Flush frequently when you have major intestinal issues that you can't deal with at home because your wife or mom or girlfriend won't clean up after you. I'm sorry the corporate toilet doesn't have sufficient capacity -- maybe in a new office someday.

And while I'm at it, it wouldn't hurt for some of us to stand closer to the urinal.

☑ (Pleasant Plains), Thursday, 16 October 2008 16:03 (fifteen years ago) link

Asinine colleague calling out DOW numbers again yesterday, this time with "ouch"s and whistles. Get to work you turd.

LJ OA UG IG SE RR (libcrypt), Thursday, 16 October 2008 18:24 (fifteen years ago) link

can't deal with at home because your wife or mom or girlfriend won't clean up after you

lol

○◙i shine cuz i genital grind◙○ (roxymuzak), Friday, 17 October 2008 01:35 (fifteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...

dudes who tell you something, and you say OK no problem, I understand, and then they tell you again, and you say OK, I got you, I'll deal with that, and then they tell you again and don't get when to stop talking and go away.

dude who is like 'oh, did you see this tv show/movie, this is the kind of show someone like you would like' or 'I didn't think someone like you would like the NFL' etc. and is basically constantly telling you what kind of person they think you are. mind your own business, I don't even want to talk to you.

T-PALIN (daria-g), Sunday, 9 November 2008 21:57 (fifteen years ago) link

* Co-worker who sighs and mutters under her breath and I never know if she's talking to me or not. "Oh, I hate having to upload this..... right?"

* Co-worker who reads aloud Onion articles to everyone.

* Co-worker who has been battling AT&T and has seemingly yelled at every operator (and their supervisor.)

⊕-----⊕-----⊕ (Pleasant Plains), Monday, 10 November 2008 00:50 (fifteen years ago) link

Can I mention a customer instead? I work at a church bookstore. A family came in and when one of the parents asked if they wanted to take a few minutes to look around, one of the teenagers said "Naw, it's all Christian stuff."

Maria, Monday, 10 November 2008 01:25 (fifteen years ago) link

I would've said the same...

Tuomas, Monday, 10 November 2008 08:31 (fifteen years ago) link

Ha PP you'd probably hate working with me, I have a dreadful tendency to mutter to myself when I work :/

Trayce, Monday, 10 November 2008 08:39 (fifteen years ago) link

Stop running everywhere in the office! Especially when you're wearing high heel boots and carrying heavy boxes. Are you some sort of thicko?

Ant Attack.. (Ste), Tuesday, 18 November 2008 15:03 (fifteen years ago) link

Too much cologne! I even complained to him about it!

Ai Lien, Tuesday, 18 November 2008 15:36 (fifteen years ago) link

yes, i've moved desks. we've all moved desks, remember?

so "is this your new desk, then?" is a particularly asinine comment.

grimly fiendish, Tuesday, 18 November 2008 15:42 (fifteen years ago) link

Ugh I hate pointless small talk like that. One of the girls I work with, she's a lovely lass, but she has to ask everyone what they are eating at lunch while they are eating it. "whats in it? did you make it?" etc.

Trayce, Tuesday, 18 November 2008 20:23 (fifteen years ago) link

That particular woman GF is talking about could fill a whole thread by herself. My latest favourite:

[After filing a story about Lewis Hamilton winning]
"... so, this Massa, his first name's really Ferrari then?"
"No, it's Felipe. Did you mean Ferarri's Felipe Massa?"
"Oh, does he drive a Ferrari car then?"
"... er, on the track, yes"
"oh."

Thing was, this was all perfect in the story.

stet, Tuesday, 18 November 2008 20:31 (fifteen years ago) link

Haha! Oh dear.

Trayce, Tuesday, 18 November 2008 22:42 (fifteen years ago) link

Seriously, she is ... well, as I suggested to a colleague the other day who had stopped by my desk purely to rant about the woman in question, if she turns out to be some reality-TV-style plant, designed to make us snap and hurl ourselves (or her) out of the window, I won't be too surprised.

grimly fiendish, Tuesday, 18 November 2008 22:49 (fifteen years ago) link

Argh stupid fucking network admins keep rebooting extremely important server without telling anyone :(

I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE UP TO (Colonel Poo), Thursday, 20 November 2008 10:05 (fifteen years ago) link

What do you do when you work in a small, public place and a co-worker may have a crush on you and stares at you and wants to talk to you all the time, even though you in no way reciprocate the attentions? When I catch him staring at me I either look up and glare at which point he smiles, or studiously ignore him, at which point he continues looking. When I walk around I feel his eyes on me and it makes me uncomfortable. When he tried to talk to me I basically nod give monosyllabic non replies, but he somehow thinks that we are friends. There are many other ladies at my POV, and I don't notice him fixing on them in the same way. He also used to want to leave work together every day, but I put the kibosh on that.

Virginia Plain, Thursday, 20 November 2008 18:43 (fifteen years ago) link

you probably have no choice but to scar yourself in the most horrific manner possible.
as a bonus you'll get a few days off too!

The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Thursday, 20 November 2008 18:49 (fifteen years ago) link

serious answer: talk to your friggin boss already.

The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Thursday, 20 November 2008 18:50 (fifteen years ago) link

pick the biggest dude in the office and start dating him

n/a is just more of a character....in a genre polluted by clones (n/a), Thursday, 20 November 2008 18:58 (fifteen years ago) link

^ otfm

The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Thursday, 20 November 2008 19:39 (fifteen years ago) link

am i the only person that thinks clipping your fingernails in your cubicle is inappropriate?

Owel Pellett (Future_Perfect), Thursday, 20 November 2008 19:58 (fifteen years ago) link

No. Occasionally I file my nails but feel bad about this as it seems kind of gross.

Bella Swan Song (Susan), Thursday, 20 November 2008 20:18 (fifteen years ago) link

Dear woman three desks along who spends all fucking day (except when she's getting psychic readings off the Internet) on the phone running her buy-to-let business while doing fuck all in the way of paid work: I hate you.

slag move (onimo), Monday, 1 December 2008 17:16 (fifteen years ago) link

The woman in my office spent all last week gasping in horror every time anyone so much as cleared their throat about how if one person in the office got a cold then everyone would get it and she didn't want one. When a guy sneezed (just once, not repeatedly) she started telling him he should go home.

So this week she has a filthy cold (which nobody else has had yet; it turns out her kids had it last week anyway), streaming and hacking, and has of course come in. Both days. Arrrr.

And if we do all get it, are we obliged to drag ourselves in too, so we don't look like we aren't working as hard as she is? Cz really I'm almost looking forward to an excuse not to be in the office. Sigh.

(Have performed emergency one-snip surgery on nails which have torn and are threatening to rip pink fleshy bits open, but someone on my bus seems to spend the whole bus journey clipping away noisily and then filing about once a week and it drives me crazy. Ugh. Especially if I'm right behind her and I feel like the air supply has become 40% nail-dust and manicure spray)

..··¨ rush ~°~ push ~°~ ca$h ¨··.. (a passing spacecadet), Tuesday, 2 December 2008 12:47 (fifteen years ago) link

I was just in the ladies, and one of the girls I work with - she's a lovely lass but terribly nosey and asks personal questions of everyone all the time - came into the stalls and said "hello!" while I was in there doing my thing. Like I want to have a conversation while I am peeing!?

Trayce, Monday, 8 December 2008 04:47 (fifteen years ago) link

we think the receptionist may have pinched the office manager's ticket to m3r3d!th

fela cooties (haitch), Monday, 8 December 2008 05:03 (fifteen years ago) link

^^ I told the coworker referenced above to stop looking at me. I then talked to another woman at my work and she told me he is doing the same thing to her. I then talked to my assistant manager. If he keeps acting like a creep I'm going to go to my boss.

Virginia Plain, Monday, 8 December 2008 05:08 (fifteen years ago) link

definitely go to your boss.

very quotatious (tehresa), Monday, 8 December 2008 05:13 (fifteen years ago) link

i work at a pretty easy retail job. there's this dude who sometimes works the same shift as me. he mostly just stands around looking pissed off to be there and complaining about having to work for 7 hours and how much he wants to go home (often quite loudly in front of the customers.) the job's not exciting but it isn't in any way hard, either. it's really irritating.

Q: Why was the mushroom so popular? A: He was a fungi (latebloomer), Monday, 8 December 2008 05:16 (fifteen years ago) link

this guy is a new dad, too. yay.

Q: Why was the mushroom so popular? A: He was a fungi (latebloomer), Monday, 8 December 2008 05:17 (fifteen years ago) link

lol nobody respects me around here

motherfuckers take hourlong jaunts around the building chattin w/bros in other departments cause "oh hoos can handle it he's got it locked down" which yeah whatever i do but goddamn do some fuckin work and let ME sit on my ass and gossip with somebody for a minute

HOOS wearing bitchmade sweaters and steendriving (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Sunday, 14 December 2008 19:09 (fifteen years ago) link

Still tempted to put up sign that says shut yr pie-hole and git to work not because I give a shit about them working but good god can't you dildos gossip about SOMETHING slightly more interesting than the time you found a bug in the MPEG4 spec or some stupid component in yr fantastic home theater that's nevertheless in a room that smells of pee?

TEENAGE DIALECTICS (libcrypt), Sunday, 14 December 2008 19:40 (fifteen years ago) link

"i can't remember the last time somebody threw something at a U.S. PRESIDENT. You know that guys' gonna disappear. They dragged him off and I heard there was a trail of blood behind him."

forksclovetofu, Monday, 15 December 2008 19:32 (fifteen years ago) link

Dear Enraged Colleague,

The reason I put the sheets of cardboard and the drawing on that table is because your colleague told me to. If I had known there was a SPECIAL TABLE on which to put stuff that we needed photocopying then of course I would have put everything there. There was no need to shout at me and froth at the mouth for having put the cardboard and drawing on an EMPTY and UNUSED table TWO METRES away from the special photocopy request table in a place where you were ACTUALLY MORE LIKELY TO SEE IT.

Further points:

- I can actually use a photocopier myself, so if you just give me the BLOODY PASSWORD for it then I will stay out of your hair and not put things on the wrong tables.

- Please be horrible to the teachers who are horrible to you. NOT to the ones who have gone out of their way to be nice to you in the knowledge that not everyone is always very nice to you. Get me?

- Thank you for all the photocopies.

Zoe Espera, Monday, 15 December 2008 19:52 (fifteen years ago) link

The bosses sent the matter straight to HR, so now I have to go speak formally to them, and I suppose this will go in my file. GRR

Virginia Plain, Monday, 15 December 2008 22:50 (fifteen years ago) link

"You know what, I don't think bush understands symbolism so he doesn't get why it's important. Yeah, he's original; I'll tell you that."

forksclovetofu, Tuesday, 16 December 2008 21:16 (fifteen years ago) link

'What's a Reverend? Is it something to do with religions?'
UGH

ianmaxwell, Tuesday, 16 December 2008 21:27 (fifteen years ago) link

"You know how you can usually tell Democrats? They hate the Second Amendment. They want to get rid of the Second Amendment. You know Obama wants to get rid of guns."

omg grapeHOOS superman (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Tuesday, 23 December 2008 23:30 (fifteen years ago) link

What's a Reverend? Is it something to do with religions?

Actually one of the clergymen at the church where I work went off on this to a group of new members recently. "Reverend is an ADJECTIVE! It is not a TITLE! Technically, my title is the Reverend Doctor William -----. You should not call me Reverend. Or Doctor. You can call me Bill." (It was news to me.)

Maria, Wednesday, 24 December 2008 17:10 (fifteen years ago) link

i have heard this girl recount the story of her new year's eve hookup to about 15 people today. getting really old.

this display name has the potential to be epically sexy (tehresa), Friday, 2 January 2009 22:27 (fifteen years ago) link

Argh.

I have to load some data.

What I need is someone to tell me which branches in supplied data map to which agents in our system, as they use different codes.

I sent lists of each to the account manager asking them to link them up for me.

2 weeks later he sends me the original lists back to me just copied into a spreadsheet "hope this helps". Uh NO you fucking moron. This isn't even my job, grumble moan stupid understaffed department.

I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE UP TO (Colonel Poo), Wednesday, 7 January 2009 13:00 (fifteen years ago) link

I am also a stupid, annoying co-worker cos I was just bitching about someone's incredibly stupid code, thinking it was written by someone who'd left the company, when the person I was sitting with said "before you go any further, it was me". Oops. It was really stupid code though.

I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE UP TO (Colonel Poo), Wednesday, 7 January 2009 14:43 (fifteen years ago) link

They're just sitting around, calling out famous Arkansans for a list they're putting together.

And not everyone has been in the office at the same time, so people keep saying "what about Mary Steenberg----- WE ALREADY HAVE HER ON THE LIST."

•--• --- --- •--• (Pleasant Plains), Wednesday, 7 January 2009 22:31 (fifteen years ago) link

Did you get Bill Clinton?

nickn, Thursday, 8 January 2009 06:18 (fifteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

an old phillipino man in my office has been playing the sleeping in seattle [sic] soundtrack, on repeat, for over two months. just that one album on a loop. it's okay as i can't really hear it unless i'm over by his desk, but there's one harry connick jr song on the album where there's this big flourish of horns that's like 10x louder than anything else. BOM BA DA BA DA BOM - ba - ba - ba - BAAAAAH. now i hear it everywhere. it should be coming again shortly. i'll just wait for it. not long now.

rocks can be cool (rent), Thursday, 22 January 2009 16:20 (fifteen years ago) link

It sounds like you're polishing your gun during the wait!

Beloved lightbulb (Neil S), Thursday, 22 January 2009 16:47 (fifteen years ago) link

BOM BA DA BA DA BOM - ba - ba - ba - BAAAAAH.

ahh

rocks can be cool (rent), Thursday, 22 January 2009 17:05 (fifteen years ago) link

This woman comes to my office everyday 2 or 3 times to visit, for like 15+ minutes at a time. She talks about things like her whimsical decision to switch up her commute route, her sinuses, her phlegm, her scar tissue, her father's carpal tunnel, her husband's fear of dentists. She lobs gossipy, utterly tiresome criticisms at others in our department. She rambles incessantly about World of Warcraft (fuck me this really makes me want to die. My eyes literally went cross at one point). All of this while slurping her hot chocolate and slightly gasping for air throughout her rapid-fire monologue.

I would pretend to be busy, but since we are in the same department, she is well aware of the fact that I/we haven't had a single thing to do since the holidays. *Sigh* Also, she was very helpful and patient during my first couple of weeks of cross-training. And I'm kind of a wimp when it comes to being brusque with annoying people : /

I need some way to alert me when she's making her way to my door. Perhaps an elaborate set of strategically placed mirrors. Then I could just pretend to be on the phone.

now is the time to winterize your manscape (will), Tuesday, 27 January 2009 18:26 (fifteen years ago) link

Put up a "TALK THERAPY - $50/hr" sign

WmC, Tuesday, 27 January 2009 18:36 (fifteen years ago) link

"are you busy?"

Tracer Hand, Friday, 30 January 2009 12:59 (fifteen years ago) link

"no i'm a gigantic slob who does nothing all day and gets paid for it"

Tracer Hand, Friday, 30 January 2009 13:00 (fifteen years ago) link

"yes, too much to listen to whatever it is you have to say, ta ta! oh, you're my boss"

Tracer Hand, Friday, 30 January 2009 13:00 (fifteen years ago) link

"whatever i say, i know i'm going to have to do whatever it is you're about to dump on me so why don't you SKIP this question - though i know it will be hard for you as it appears to constitute the ENTIRETY of your ideas about managing people's time and workload"

Tracer Hand, Friday, 30 January 2009 13:03 (fifteen years ago) link

i've been told i need to come in to the office to cover the phones from 6pm tonight to 9am tomorrow morning, because the magic work-from-home thingie is down.

that's a 15-hr shift. overnight. in an office with no beds. during the biggest snowstorm in two decades.

when i suggested possibly sharing this shift with someone else i was told that it's my responsibility cause i'm the one on call, and it is my "duty" to do it.

Tracer Hand, Monday, 2 February 2009 16:29 (fifteen years ago) link

^ fuck *that* noise. I assume you've made suitable complaining noises in the right direction?

Also: did you actually do it, then?

Special topics: Disco, The Common Market (grimly fiendish), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 12:50 (fifteen years ago) link

A co-worker, who is typically not stupid nor annoying, has been working on a huge interior finishes project for the last couple of weeks. She has decided that the best place to store all the sample boards and carpet samples is on the floor adjacent to her desk and the entire floor surrounding it. So every time I have to get up from my desk, I have to watch my step and constantly step over or around shit on the floor. Very annoying.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Tuesday, 3 February 2009 13:33 (fifteen years ago) link

what is the protocol for retrieving print jobs? whenever i print something out, i always go over to the printer to grab it, pretty much right away. this new co-worker always leaves print jobs on the printer, sometimes for a day or two. every time i grab a print job of mine, i have to flip through this person's stuff--and it's not always work related stuff she's printing out, either. i feel like i'm being an ass for complaining but at the same time i don't eat doritos for breakfast do i?

Mr. Que, Tuesday, 3 February 2009 21:00 (fifteen years ago) link

Write "SEE ME @ 4:30" on them in red Sharpie in the boss's handwriting.

WmC, Tuesday, 3 February 2009 21:03 (fifteen years ago) link

Eh, I leave stuff sitting. I can't be bothered to get up every time I send a purchase order. But when I pass the printer I grab my stuff AND my colleague's and drop hers off at her desk.

How can there be male ladybugs? (Laurel), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 21:05 (fifteen years ago) link

i did that for the first few weeks but i'm a little sick of it. i am not this person's maid.

Mr. Que, Tuesday, 3 February 2009 21:06 (fifteen years ago) link

I do it as a politeness, and she picks up mine too. Not a big deal to me.

How can there be male ladybugs? (Laurel), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 21:13 (fifteen years ago) link

If it bothers you, just start making her stuff into a pile and at some pre-determined time the next day, if she hasn't picked it up, just throw the whole thing away. When she looks for it, apologize really nicely but you had no idea it was hers....

How can there be male ladybugs? (Laurel), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 21:15 (fifteen years ago) link

I'm sure I annoyed the entire office the past few months with all the hardware traffic that's been going in and out: 60-some server-sized boxes. Plus tons of trash (cardboard boxes) for the few that are staying.

muomus (libcrypt), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 21:16 (fifteen years ago) link

The woman I'm taking over from just gave a presentation to a ton of people I'll be working with and made no reference at all to leaving or that I would be taking over. I was in the audience.

ljubljana, Tuesday, 3 February 2009 23:00 (fifteen years ago) link

I was too lazy to pick up my print job, and then another woman apparently made off with my job and another colleagues.

Gotta watch my back at this new job. Too bad I can't print out with indemnity a 60-pg Comic Con schedule anymore (used to have my 'own' printer).

Virginia Plain, Wednesday, 4 February 2009 00:03 (fifteen years ago) link

Thought that said 60-pg Comic Sans for a mo. That would have been hella stupid and annoying.

talk me down off the (ledge), Wednesday, 4 February 2009 00:04 (fifteen years ago) link

OMFG CAN YOU JUST SAY WTF YOU NEED FROM ME IN THE FIRST PLACE INSTEAD OF ASKING ME TO REVISE 1500 TIMES WHEN WE ARE IN TIME CRUNCH AND I CAN'T READ YOUR MIND!?

gangsa paradise (tehresa), Monday, 9 February 2009 18:45 (fifteen years ago) link

what is the protocol for retrieving print jobs? whenever i print something out, i always go over to the printer to grab it, pretty much right away. this new co-worker always leaves print jobs on the printer, sometimes for a day or two. every time i grab a print job of mine, i have to flip through this person's stuff--and it's not always work related stuff she's printing out, either. i feel like i'm being an ass for complaining but at the same time i don't eat doritos for breakfast do i?

― Mr. Que, Tuesday, February 3, 2009 9:00 PM (6 days ago) Bookmark

Here is the magic ratio I've discovered: the amount of printing an employee does is generally inversely proportional to his or her intelligence and the quality of his or her work. (Obviously this does not apply if you actually work in a printshop.)

fields of salmon, Monday, 9 February 2009 18:53 (fifteen years ago) link

how about the fact that same bitchy coworker i just went off about emails me things to print. it takes longer to email me the doc than it does to hit the print button.

gangsa paradise (tehresa), Monday, 9 February 2009 18:56 (fifteen years ago) link

There's a bin next to the printer for unretrieved jobs. It seems to work pretty well. It's also next to the recycle tub, which also works pretty well.

jkfu (libcrypt), Monday, 9 February 2009 18:58 (fifteen years ago) link

Can you please get our printer fixed today? something went wrong over the weekend and I can’t get it to work.

Thank you!

it was a paper jam. you take out the jammed paper. AMAZING!

gangsa paradise (tehresa), Monday, 9 February 2009 19:07 (fifteen years ago) link

At my old job, we actually had a policy (for about a week) that you were supposed to print out an e-mail to a coworker that you were sending to them and leave the paper copy in their mailbox as well.

Someone didn't get an email one time or it was delayed or it went to their spam folder and THAT ^^ happened.

•--• --- --- •--• (Pleasant Plains), Monday, 9 February 2009 19:32 (fifteen years ago) link

where I work now no one prints anything: even faxes come in digitally, are pdf'd and stored. I feel guilty when I print one page of something personal cos we pretty much never do. Closest to actual "paperless office" ive ever been.

one art, please (Trayce), Monday, 9 February 2009 20:45 (fifteen years ago) link

I routinely print out long articles from the New York Review of Books o_O

Tracer Hand, Monday, 9 February 2009 21:08 (fifteen years ago) link

and when i get home i put the paper upside down in the paper tray of my own printer

Tracer Hand, Monday, 9 February 2009 21:09 (fifteen years ago) link

*UPDATE*

lol when when i'm gchattin' with my gf I'll have her call me on my office line when the annoying talker makes her daily drop-ins. If only she were a flagrant bitch or in no way integral to me getting my job done I'm pretty sure I could tell her to shove off.

I also made my office line #1 on my blackberry speed-dial. I'm such a pussy.

now is the time to winterize your manscape (will), Monday, 9 February 2009 21:51 (fifteen years ago) link

i print a lot of stuff from school. i also steal all the wasted paper to print things on the other side at home because i'm cheap and i don't want to buy paper.

gangsa paradise (tehresa), Monday, 9 February 2009 22:01 (fifteen years ago) link

tracer - what happened with your 15 hour red-eye shift?!

The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Monday, 9 February 2009 22:13 (fifteen years ago) link

I routinely print out long articles from the New York Review of Books o_O

...

and when i get home i put the paper upside down in the paper tray of my own printer

This is the way to live.

James Morrison, Tuesday, 10 February 2009 00:45 (fifteen years ago) link

i ended up not having to do it - the work-from-home-thingie magically came back just minutes before a taxi was due to arrive at my house and take me on on a 1.5 hr drive to west london

however the 20-minute phone fight i had with the acting boss of my dept. is irretrievable and either today or tomorrow i am going to have to speak to this tightass about it and probably apologize because he's so wound up he will never mention it and it will simmer forever inside him

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 10 February 2009 10:27 (fifteen years ago) link

Arggghhh people trying to manage projects which aren't theirs because they resent someone else being put on it, picking up on every little mistake going OH GOD I KNEW THAT WOMAN WOULD GET IT ALL WRONG and busybodying the subordinates on the project (i.e. me) to see what I've done yet (nothing on the next phase because the person actually in charge told me not to yet - HAVEN'T YOU EVEN DONE THAT YET WHAT IS THAT WOMAN THINKING), rearranging our meeting times so she can come when she wasn't invited, declaring that everyone else on the project who is massively confused because we keep being told different things (partly because the management change their mind every 5 minutes and partly because she keeps appearing and contradicting everything) is just being, like, feebleminded and/or stubborn, THEY SHOULD KNOW EVERYTHING I JUST SAID IS THE ONE TRUE WAY ALREADY AND STOP COMPLAINING

(also I'm going on a week's leave tomorrow and everyone else is cool with that except the busybodying woman has just remembered everything I was ever meant to do but had to drop because some other urgent project appeared out of nowhere and wants it all before I go away, and admittedly this is only a problem because I'M the stupid and annoying coworker, but, jesus, get me out of here. meanwhile I made a fuckup of something she didn't even ask for which I wanted to get done before going and that'll need some careful checking to put back together. aargh)

sorry guys, rant over. maybe i can tread water until the end of today and then i get a week to daydream of never coming back

a passing spacecadet, Tuesday, 10 February 2009 10:30 (fifteen years ago) link

should probably not have lingered in front of the xpostometer with the words "stupid, annoying co-workers" on my screen at like 40 points but hey, screw you guys

a passing spacecadet, Tuesday, 10 February 2009 10:32 (fifteen years ago) link

My coworker who can and will talk about how much he hates DRM for hours is right in the middle of what's probably a 1/2-day long anti-DRM jag.

jkfu (libcrypt), Tuesday, 10 February 2009 18:33 (fifteen years ago) link

MORE ENGINEERING LESS SNORTY LAUGHING

jkfu (libcrypt), Tuesday, 10 February 2009 18:34 (fifteen years ago) link

Jesus Christ, M4rk Phi11p5, you have to be the most, to quote Luanne van Hauten, the most incompetent and managerially impotent person alive. How you ever got to be in charge of anything (especially people more educated, and certainly smarter than you) is amazing. You've lost our respect, and trying to be an asshole to everyone to cover up your own unacceptable failures, and being a total hypocrite is just making you a bigger asshole than you are. And your macho, misogynistic attitude doesn't help either.

Fuck you, you piece of shit.

mehlt, Friday, 13 February 2009 01:26 (fifteen years ago) link

Dear colleague who does what I do in a very closely related organisation

Stop sending snarky emails to colleagues in a third very closely related organisation and copying them to everyone. I don't think you mean to be snarky, and she occasionally deserves it, but it takes time and energy to work out a reply that defuses the situation.

Your colleague who does what you do in a closely related organisation

ljubljana, Friday, 13 February 2009 07:30 (fifteen years ago) link

girl: loses something
girl to me: can you call finance and tell them you lost xyz and ask for another copy?

why am i your bitch???

lucky girl LOL (tehresa), Friday, 13 February 2009 20:37 (fifteen years ago) link

Wow. Please say you told her to stick xyz sideways!

WmC, Friday, 13 February 2009 20:46 (fifteen years ago) link

i just kind of hit my internal killifile button because i'm pretty sure after she leaves for vacation i can find it and avoid all this dramas but USADL:GKJS.

lucky girl LOL (tehresa), Friday, 13 February 2009 20:49 (fifteen years ago) link

Arrgh. Just arrgh.

James Mitchell, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 09:19 (fifteen years ago) link

Oh fuck you, you sales asshole, its not MY FAULT we have a pricebook with an error in it so your quote to Big Client is somewhat wrong. You and management set the pricing. NOT ME!

So it is not my issue to fucking go and sort it out, so dont throw hissyfits in my direction!!&*!^!$%!#!

*tears hair*

one art, please (Trayce), Thursday, 19 February 2009 00:24 (fifteen years ago) link

Aformentioned asshole also happened to not pay me for the first half of February; likely there will be a long, tedious, and stressful bureaucratic process ahead of me, like those other people who are still missing pay from December. Here's to your being fired!

mehlt, Thursday, 19 February 2009 00:28 (fifteen years ago) link

*Purple Rain comes on radio*

Co-worker: Oh, I LOVED Oprah in this movie!
Me: o_O

Darin, Thursday, 19 February 2009 00:38 (fifteen years ago) link

Same woman couldn't wait to go to Hawaii for vacation to see the hunchback whales.

Darin, Thursday, 19 February 2009 00:39 (fifteen years ago) link

lol at this very moment, four feet away, my acting boss is answering questions from our brand new CEO who is asking simple, basic questions about what we do and he is DYING ON HIS FEET

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 19 February 2009 15:34 (fifteen years ago) link

the problem is that this will just make him less confident and he will now be more bullying and weird and passive-aggressive than ever

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 19 February 2009 15:44 (fifteen years ago) link

It always amazes me how some people seem to get into higher up roles by the skin of their teeth and you wonder how they hold a job when they're as dense as dark matter.

one art, please (Trayce), Thursday, 19 February 2009 20:31 (fifteen years ago) link

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dilbert_Principle

koogs, Thursday, 19 February 2009 21:31 (fifteen years ago) link

So I work in a building with like 30 other people, everyone pretty much knows everybody and socially things are relatively laid back most of the time. But there's been occasional rashes of people's lunches/etc. getting stolen out of the refrigerator everybody uses, and in the last couple weeks I've had 2 cans of soda stolen. This morning I shook the shit out of a soda can and put it in the fridge and am waiting to see how long it takes to disappear. Am I just inevitably egging this on to become a bigger thing than it has any right to be, or should I be proud of my lame attempt at vigilante justice?

some dude, Thursday, 26 February 2009 16:50 (fifteen years ago) link

you watched that Simpsons ep where Bart blows up Homer with a shook-up Duff, didn't you.

WmC, Thursday, 26 February 2009 16:54 (fifteen years ago) link

well bitching and whining about it in an email to the entire staff will just make you the cheap bitchy, whiny guy and just letting people steal your stuff is not an option so i honestly think you did the best thing.

quadratrillionaire (sunny successor), Thursday, 26 February 2009 16:55 (fifteen years ago) link

well bitching and whining about it in an email to the entire staff will just make you the cheap bitchy, whiny guy

Heh I did this and yeah to people I don't normally interact with I'm the guy who got pissed off about stolen cheese, but on the upside no-one's stolen my food since then, so y'know, whatevs.

I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE UP TO (Colonel Poo), Thursday, 26 February 2009 16:57 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah definitely not doing an e-mail or anything like that.

actually the thing that complicates this is that the guy who works next to me also had a soda stolen yesterday, so he just put a post-it on the refrigerator noting both thefts. so whereas before only people in my little dept. know that I had a soda stolen recently, now it's public knowledge and the soda bomb could be more easily traced back to me. I kinda covered my ass by using a different type of soda than what I usually bring in and putting it in a different place than I usually do, though, so I'm prepared to play dumb.

some dude, Thursday, 26 February 2009 16:59 (fifteen years ago) link

you watched that Simpsons ep where Bart blows up Homer with a shook-up Duff, didn't you.

― WmC, Thursday, February 26, 2009 11:54 AM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

true story, yesterday for like an hour I was feeling annoyed about this and thinking "is there something I could do to booby-trap a soda? cover it in a clear sticky material? no. hide something weird at the bottom of the can? no....oh, duh, I can just shake it up, why didn't I think of that an hour ago?"

some dude, Thursday, 26 February 2009 17:01 (fifteen years ago) link

on the other hand, it could easily be tracked ot him, since he posted the note.

yur twit (tehresa), Thursday, 26 February 2009 17:01 (fifteen years ago) link

Why would it be bad if the thief found out who it was who shook up the soda anyway?

I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE UP TO (Colonel Poo), Thursday, 26 February 2009 17:02 (fifteen years ago) link

It wouldn't necessarily, but I'd rather just burn them so they wouldn't wanna do it again than have a big confrontation.

some dude, Thursday, 26 February 2009 17:04 (fifteen years ago) link

I mean I'm kinda psyched about it working but at the same time a lil embarrassed to be all immature and "lol REVENGE" about this.

some dude, Thursday, 26 February 2009 17:05 (fifteen years ago) link

it'll be funny more than anything, esp if you tell a few other coworkers what you've done (obv coworkers who aren't likely to be the culprit), so then when you all hear the explosion and the resulting cussing, you can all eye each other and snigger.

i would totally do this.

just1n3, Thursday, 26 February 2009 17:08 (fifteen years ago) link

the person wont confront you because then they would have to admit to being the soda stealer.

quadratrillionaire (sunny successor), Thursday, 26 February 2009 17:08 (fifteen years ago) link

haha yeah who knows...the thing is that we have 4 floors, and I'm pretty sure it wasn't anybody on my floor, so if I find out who did it, it'll probably be hearsay later on, or if someone is walking around with a big wet stain on their shirt.

some dude, Thursday, 26 February 2009 17:13 (fifteen years ago) link

Can't wait to find out it's the CEO, looking to find out who to bill for his ruined suit.

WmC, Thursday, 26 February 2009 17:13 (fifteen years ago) link

Actually I hope that doesn't happen, I approve of soda-bomb.

WmC, Thursday, 26 February 2009 17:14 (fifteen years ago) link

lol yeah there is one bigwig I would actually be freaked out if it was him, but he's not around that often so I doubt it. mostly I'm worried it'll be someone I'm totally friendly with or have to work with fairly often.

some dude, Thursday, 26 February 2009 17:16 (fifteen years ago) link

back in my old job for a freelance shift today and seriously, even after 3 months out of there it's exactly the same as ever.

the thing I notice is that because everyone there has been there about 6 years or so, and the job is fairly rote/non changing, they all have their own systems for doing things and they want you to adhere to these when you're working with them.

sadly they don't realise this, and each one assumes their particular system is the be all and end all, and will act as if you don't know how to do the job if you try and do things in the way you did them last time you were there.

part of the problem is cos I trained in this place so I have to be quite docile to colleagues. this is fine, it's only casual work and that doesn't bother me. but it is FUCKING IMPOSSIBLE to have to have one co-worker, eg S today, saying "oh no you need to add in this to that story, did nobody show you this? someone should have shown you."

and it's like "nobody showed me cos you're the only one who does this", but it's too hard to explain that.

jesus I hate that office...better off unemployed.

Local Garda, Thursday, 26 February 2009 22:33 (fifteen years ago) link

Brodie caught the lunchroom bandit red-handed. It was Officer Gaffney...

> and it's like "nobody showed me cos you're the only one who does this", but it's too hard to explain that.

i get this all the time. people expect you to know their code or their procedures despite not documenting them or, indeed, mentioning them to anyone else ever. we aren't psychic.

koogs, Thursday, 26 February 2009 22:57 (fifteen years ago) link

Looking forward to hearing about the soda-bomb!

Someone once stole the cheese from inside my sandwich, but left the sandwich itself behind. I didn't know until I bit into it, then found myself wondering about the hygiene of whoever had been handling my food.

James Morrison, Friday, 27 February 2009 00:04 (fifteen years ago) link

I had a softdrink-stealer in a previous job, and I was pretty sure who it was but of course couldnt accuse anyone blind because it was this brand of energy drink a lot of us drank, so seeing someone else with one, they could have got it themselves.

So a workmate suggested I tag the base of some new cans with an X in permanent marker. We did this, and the next day found the guy I suspected drinking a can of V. "Hey Simon where'd you get the V from?" "oh its mine I got it at the petrol station" he said evasively. I asked if I could look at the base of the can and there was my mark. Fuck you buddy.

He got fired a little later on for being a useless shmuck anyway so swings and roundabouts.

one art, please (Trayce), Friday, 27 February 2009 00:10 (fifteen years ago) link

James, just playing Devil's Advocate here, but maybe you just forgot to put cheese on your sandwich before you came in?

•--• --- --- •--• (Pleasant Plains), Friday, 27 February 2009 03:50 (fifteen years ago) link

I did wonder that at the time, but I checked and there were imprints (and crumbs) of the cheese in the margarine.

James Morrison, Friday, 27 February 2009 03:56 (fifteen years ago) link

Maybe you were just about to take a bite out of your sandwich and the hot sales rep walked past and you got distracted and the cheese fell out.

badg, Friday, 27 February 2009 04:44 (fifteen years ago) link

So our employee promised to come in the afternoon for some client. Yesterday she emailed our other employee saying she'd probably couldn't make it and could she cancel it. She needed an answer RIGHT AWAY. Eh? First of, she should ask ME (or my mum), secondly like wtf. Today I asked her why she couldn't come. Is it rude of me to ask? I mean, shit, it's for something really important, then I could understand. She said:"Why should I give a reason?" in a rather rude way. She finally said she'd come anyway. WTF.

Nathalie (stevienixed), Friday, 27 February 2009 09:57 (fifteen years ago) link

fire her

quadratrillionaire (sunny successor), Friday, 27 February 2009 15:13 (fifteen years ago) link

"Dear [single person out of several people working on project, others not CCed],

I was looking at [catalogue number of item in latest project] and noticed [different kind of catalogue number for completely unrelated item not in latest project]. Why is there [something which doesn't show up for me for either item, which would be nothing to do with me anyway]?"

Yeah, I'll... get right on that.

a passing spacecadet, Tuesday, 3 March 2009 12:41 (fifteen years ago) link

Sunny, didn't. :-) I quickly realized that it wasn't such a big deal. Thing is that our other employee is using this as a "look at me, ain't i so much better" through constant whining about it:"Wow, she's rude isn't she? I'd never do this! Very impolite." I was tempted ot make her STFU by telling her she's done "much worse" but what the hell, why get bothered by this?

Nathalie (stevienixed), Tuesday, 3 March 2009 13:45 (fifteen years ago) link

otoh, it's great that you're not letting it get to you... but on the other, you're letting her know that it's ok to act that way. which means she'll push it a bit further the next time, and bit a further the next time. ppl like this - you give an inch, they take a mile.

just1n3, Tuesday, 3 March 2009 16:08 (fifteen years ago) link

dear coworker,

thank you for leaving shit til the last minute, then throwing it at me so that when i have to ask people for materials to complete said shit, i get yelled at for not giving them enough time. it's so very considerate of you.

t

yur twit (tehresa), Wednesday, 4 March 2009 20:00 (fifteen years ago) link

On a quick misreading, I thought your co-workers were actually hurling shit at you, chimp-like.

James Morrison, Wednesday, 4 March 2009 22:31 (fifteen years ago) link

My bf's got a new "look at my brass balls" female manager at his workplace who is tossing her orb about at everyone. She's been there a month; she's never been a manager before, and staff morale has plummetted in the time she's been around. Why? She thinks people doing so much as talking and making jokes while they work (key being THEY ARE WORKING) means they havent got enough to do.

Bf got pulled aside by her last week and given an official warning. Because he taps/drums on things a lot while he's waiting for print jobs to run/doing other stuff, and she thinks that means "you don't have enough to do". She was apparently speaking to him like a 5 year old being told off in class. Fucking cow. I'd have laughed in her face if it was me. He's just sat there and didnt say anything out of complete confusion. I want to go in there and slap her.

one art, please (Trayce), Wednesday, 4 March 2009 22:34 (fifteen years ago) link

Do it!

James Morrison, Thursday, 5 March 2009 02:04 (fifteen years ago) link

I would if I didnt care if he got fired, haw.

one art, please (Trayce), Thursday, 5 March 2009 02:15 (fifteen years ago) link

But I mean wtf, you cant official-warn (thus potentially FIRE) someone for TAPPING ON A DESK. WTF.

one art, please (Trayce), Thursday, 5 March 2009 02:15 (fifteen years ago) link

This manager sounds completely out of her depth.

swedes put dill on fields of salmon (fields of salmon), Thursday, 5 March 2009 02:58 (fifteen years ago) link

Yeah thats what I reckon.

Its like Homer saying "work harder!" to the guys at the Scorpio plant. Unfortunately bitches like her are the ones who go far, which is so unfair it makes me want to punch someone.

one art, please (Trayce), Thursday, 5 March 2009 03:01 (fifteen years ago) link

I'm still wondering about the soda-bomb

Chris Barrus (Elvis Telecom), Thursday, 5 March 2009 03:02 (fifteen years ago) link

Hahah oh yes! Did it explode on the unsuspecting thief? Updates!

one art, please (Trayce), Thursday, 5 March 2009 03:06 (fifteen years ago) link

No, I don't think managers like her necessarily go far. I think she's just as likely to be found out. When people start quitting the owners/upper management/big bosses will almost definitely put two and two together.

swedes put dill on fields of salmon (fields of salmon), Thursday, 5 March 2009 03:12 (fifteen years ago) link

I'm sure if an uptick of formal warnings from one person to a bunch of people who've previously been trouble-free at work is present, it will be notable...and noted. Go to HR, bandy the word 'inappropriate' around? If it's that sort of company.

We Need To Talk About Kevin Smith (suzy), Thursday, 5 March 2009 09:17 (fifteen years ago) link

trayce, i had a manager like her once. on top of her dickish work related behavior she used every chance possible to point our she was married to a football player and how my boyfriend at the time looked like a girl (ie he was in a band and had longish hair and zero meathead). eventually i had a meeting with her boss and got moved to another project (the best thing that has ever happened to me workwise). A few months later i heard her footballer left her and she had a nervous breakdown and got fired. im usually pretty empathetic but at that moment i was filled 100% proof glee.

quadratrillionaire (sunny successor), Thursday, 5 March 2009 16:08 (fifteen years ago) link

justine you are right. but i am way better about it now. used to get totally worked up about it and let my emotions run with it. i think in her case it is lack of respect but also she is socially inept, she tends to come across as rude because she is actually shy. probably doesnt make sense.

Nathalie (stevienixed), Thursday, 5 March 2009 18:34 (fifteen years ago) link

Sunny: thats an awesome tale of schadenfreude! :) Yeah I dunno - I told the bf he should band together with all the pissed off staff and have a chat with the guy who *was* their manager (and is totally nice and on their side) but now hes been sideways-moted and she is his manager too, so I guess they all feel a bit powerless. The current economy doesn't help: you gotta suspect some companies are taking advantage of the downturn to use any excuse to sack people. Which leaves people in fear and kowtowing. It blows :(

one art, please (Trayce), Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:14 (fifteen years ago) link

soda bomb update: today marked a week since I put in the fridge, and I was starting to feel uneasy/remorseful and decided to take it out this morning, but when I went in there it was gone. I hadn't shaken it in a couple days so I have no idea if it 'sploded at all.

let "free dom" ring (some dude), Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:26 (fifteen years ago) link

Need video cam installed stat.

one art, please (Trayce), Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:28 (fifteen years ago) link

Does anyone at your work look like this? It's a man injured in a serious soda bomb explosion which drove the cap into his forehead.
http://www.dryiceinfo.com/Pictures/dry%20ice%20bomb%20injury.jpg

James Morrison, Thursday, 5 March 2009 23:34 (fifteen years ago) link

Sorry, that's bigger and thus grosser than was intended!

James Morrison, Thursday, 5 March 2009 23:34 (fifteen years ago) link

hahahahahaha holy shit

i don't know if that makes me want to never try that again or want to more now

lonely hearts club ban (some dude), Friday, 6 March 2009 19:13 (fifteen years ago) link

Just to let you all know in advance that if anyone anonymously posts 10,000+ words of hate-filled bile describing in depth exactly how screwed and wrong a particular workplace is on this thread in the near future, it'll be me. Cheers.

James Mitchell, Wednesday, 11 March 2009 16:07 (fifteen years ago) link

Awesome! *gets popcorn*

one art, please (Trayce), Wednesday, 11 March 2009 23:29 (fifteen years ago) link

I spent an hour loading reg card packets with little purple coupons for tonight's special at our restaurant.

My aspie coworker has removed them all to carefully trim the edges.

Her side of the desk is full of slivers of paper and stuff that needs to be filed and God love this girl but it's like working with a dumb tornado

czech blastcore and superHOOS culture (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Wednesday, 11 March 2009 23:46 (fifteen years ago) link

(x-post to James Mitchell) I hope that, like me, you're posting under your real name. Every now and then this thread gives me the fear.

James Morrison, Thursday, 12 March 2009 00:03 (fifteen years ago) link

Arrrgh sales dude I know its your thing, and you're a nice guy, but do you have to chirp merrily into the phone at customers so LOUDLY at this early hour? You're hurting my damn head.

yrs, hungoverly,
Me.

one art, please (Trayce), Thursday, 12 March 2009 22:21 (fifteen years ago) link

You should just start faking an orgasm really loud. Hmm, maybe that'll actually get him speaking even louder. Hmm

the tip of the tongue taking a trip tralalala (stevienixed), Thursday, 12 March 2009 22:29 (fifteen years ago) link

Are you singing hymns?

Eephin' Pageant (kingkongvsgodzilla), Friday, 20 March 2009 12:50 (fifteen years ago) link

She stopped to make a phone call and then started up again.

Eephin' Pageant (kingkongvsgodzilla), Friday, 20 March 2009 12:54 (fifteen years ago) link

8:54 AM 8:54 AM 8:54 AM 8:54 AM 8:54 AM 8:54 AM 8:54 AM 8:54 AM 8:54 AM 8:54 AM 8:54 AM 8:54 AM 8:54 AM 8:54 AM 8:54 AM 8:54 AM 8:54 AM 8:54 AM 8:54 AM

Eephin' Pageant (kingkongvsgodzilla), Friday, 20 March 2009 12:54 (fifteen years ago) link

Predecessor in my job, who makes me feel woefully inadequate, visiting DC and staying the weekend at my (used to be her) apartment. Can't think of anything in the world more awkward.

ljubljana, Friday, 20 March 2009 13:38 (fifteen years ago) link

I'm actually extremely fond of my closest colleague, but I can tell when she's having a bad day because she heaves giant sighs every 7 minutes. SIGH do one thing. SIGH do another. SIGH walk to the printer. SIGH flop back into chair. And so on.

How can there be male ladybugs? (Laurel), Friday, 20 March 2009 13:55 (fifteen years ago) link

ahem, I do that I think...

ljubljana, Friday, 20 March 2009 14:00 (fifteen years ago) link

ya, i'm guilty of that aswell.

The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Friday, 20 March 2009 14:03 (fifteen years ago) link

i just did it.

The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Friday, 20 March 2009 14:04 (fifteen years ago) link

I need to control my under-the-breath exasperated muttering at computer

ledge, Friday, 20 March 2009 14:15 (fifteen years ago) link

i'm pretty sure you don't need to worry about your computer getting upset about it.

The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Friday, 20 March 2009 14:34 (fifteen years ago) link

or... DO YOU?!

The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Friday, 20 March 2009 14:35 (fifteen years ago) link

I sigh way too much. I get done with a big chunk of uploading or whatever and I just do one of those long Phewwws.

The guy who sits next to me was watching a Youtube link with the sound turned down to about 2. I hit "submit" on a big project and let loose with a big sigh. I then felt bad because the dude without looking at me cleared his throat and turned his volume all the way down.

•--• --- --- •--• (Pleasant Plains), Friday, 20 March 2009 15:21 (fifteen years ago) link

Predecessor in my job, who makes me feel woefully inadequate, visiting DC and staying the weekend at my (used to be her) apartment. Can't think of anything in the world more awkward.

You really can't?

hyggeligt, Friday, 20 March 2009 18:24 (fifteen years ago) link

If I tried I fear I'd go into squirm meltdown.

ljubljana, Friday, 20 March 2009 21:28 (fifteen years ago) link

I posted this on the Chicago thread, but it belongs here too:

So my boss just called myself and another guy into the conference room, because "something was wrong with the flat-screen" in there. He's complaining about how some channels look great, but others look like crap. He was switching between standard-def and hi-def channels. No matter how much the two of us tried to convince him that standard-def channels do look significantly worse on an HDTV, he wouldn't believe us. He insisted on having someone come in to look at the TV, so now he will be paying someone to tell him the exact same thing.

legendary North American forest ape (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 15:08 (fifteen years ago) link

Hymn-singing woman above is proving to be valuable new coworker. This morning I heard her trying to strong-arm another coworker into attending her dance performance ("Oh no, no, I can't make it" "Oh well just let me know if you want to SEE ME DANCE!").

Just now, yelled out "SHOOT! I HATE TECHNOLOGY!"

Caps are hers.

kingkongvsgodzilla, Friday, 27 March 2009 13:08 (fifteen years ago) link

When you use the last of the water in the jug on the dispenser, replace it. It really is very fucking simple.

display names have been changed to protect the innocent (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 1 April 2009 17:46 (fifteen years ago) link

those things look heavy

I wish I was the royal trux (sunny successor), Wednesday, 1 April 2009 18:04 (fifteen years ago) link

theyre pretty heavy

ice cr?m, Wednesday, 1 April 2009 18:21 (fifteen years ago) link

one time the new guy at work dropped one when putting it in the dispenser

cool app (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Wednesday, 1 April 2009 18:23 (fifteen years ago) link

he kept saying "oh shit...oh shit...oh shit" while water got everywhere

cool app (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Wednesday, 1 April 2009 18:24 (fifteen years ago) link

long story short dude was me

cool app (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Wednesday, 1 April 2009 18:24 (fifteen years ago) link

Was the new guy actually a woman named Abbott?

i'm shy (Abbott), Wednesday, 1 April 2009 18:29 (fifteen years ago) link

hahaha xpost

i'm shy (Abbott), Wednesday, 1 April 2009 18:29 (fifteen years ago) link

long story short dude was me

Been there. It's astonishing a) just how easily they break; b) just how much water they hold; c) just how many times people -- including at least one ILX0r -- can point and laugh and call you a dick while NOT DOING ANYTHING TO HELP during the time it takes for all the water to glug out all over the office floor.

a tiny, faltering megaphone (grimly fiendish), Wednesday, 1 April 2009 21:35 (fifteen years ago) link

ha what ilxor lold @ u

ice cr?m, Wednesday, 1 April 2009 21:38 (fifteen years ago) link

I've got it narrowed down to, er, one :-)

ailsa, Wednesday, 1 April 2009 21:46 (fifteen years ago) link

(thought of a second, decided he was too nice)

ailsa, Wednesday, 1 April 2009 21:46 (fifteen years ago) link

I'm working on a project with someone from another office. This person has no project management skills and yet is supposed to be leading it. I had to fight tooth and nail to get deadlines, never got the proper blueprints that we were supposed to (supposed to have them three months ago, been promised them four times)...and had instructions changed last minute, where I can prove via saved emails that she gave us contradictory instruction.

In one case, we called her on it, and she went back and changed the content of the original email, which we of course caught. And this person is well respected by leadership.

Jesus fucking CHRIST!!1!!!!!

III IV V (Bo Jackson Overdrive), Wednesday, 1 April 2009 22:08 (fifteen years ago) link

A Poundland (ie everything one pound sterling) shop has just tipped up on our main shopping street, conversation about which prompted my boss this afternoon to describe it as "disgusting". This would be slightly easier to take if we didn't earn a salary that puts us in the exact demographic for such a shop

Climate Of Basshunter (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 1 April 2009 22:19 (fifteen years ago) link

dear stupid annoying lady, please answer your phone so we can have a conversation instead of sending me vague emails like 'ok...' after i confirmed a detail which lead me to believe you are still checking into things and then not confirming with me when i follow up about whether you were saying 'ok...' to my answer to your question or okaying my initial request. when you finally answer your phone, don't give me the, 'when i say ok that means it is confirmed' treatment because ellipses lead people to believe there is more coming later, etc.

ugh, Wednesday, 1 April 2009 23:33 (fifteen years ago) link

soda bomb?

James Morrison, Wednesday, 1 April 2009 23:54 (fifteen years ago) link

i like my coworkers. i share an office with a couple people & it's pretty ridiculous and great actually. i suppose someone will leave one of these days & thus put at risk the v excellent work environment we have, but really i'm hoping nothing changes anytime soon.

we are here to celebrate, worship and adore (daria-g), Thursday, 2 April 2009 00:48 (fifteen years ago) link

My bf's patronising cow boss has apparently completely changed tack and is now being nice to everyone and constructive and coming up with structures and things. Praise be. Someone had to have noticed the effect she'd had on morale, I suspect. That or ppl complained.

one art, please (Trayce), Thursday, 2 April 2009 08:08 (fifteen years ago) link

Latest project now seems to have at least five people who think they're managing it, inc. one faction who thinks that nothing should go ahead until they've looked at every last line of a 2000-row spreadsheet which they won't have time to do until next week, and one woman who turns up every 3 minutes asking me why I haven't gone ahead yet because she wanted it done two weeks ago.

Unfortunately both factions think that as soon as they say go the actual technical work will only be a matter of pressing a button and no, like, days of painstaking irritating work which will have to be checked manually and which I was waiting for the first faction for because they're probably going to change everything.

Well, OK, I was also waiting because I cannot get this fucking thing working, it's driving me crazy. When I dropped out of university because I'd lie awake at night thinking how I'd rather hack my limbs off than have to go in the next day and admit that I hadn't done the work, somehow I'd managed to fool myself the real world would be different...

a passing spacecadet, Thursday, 2 April 2009 10:14 (fifteen years ago) link

oh hay sales guys. you know that joke about how i eat all the fruit because I sit next to the fucking fruit basket? the one you make every fucking time you walk past my desk? the one you occasionally mix up by going, "oh there's still fruit left"?

yeah, the funny's never ever ever going to fade from that one.

N1ck (Upt0eleven), Thursday, 2 April 2009 11:57 (fifteen years ago) link

oh, and "you need to get out more!" will also always be a fantastic zing.

N1ck (Upt0eleven), Thursday, 2 April 2009 12:00 (fifteen years ago) link

sales guys bring the lolz

Jarlrmai, Thursday, 2 April 2009 13:07 (fifteen years ago) link

I cannot wait for my female coworker to get married next week. 8 hours a day listening to her talk about the fucking wedding is killing me.

display names have been changed to protect the innocent (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 10 April 2009 14:19 (fifteen years ago) link

Shut up shut up shut up shut up. None of us care which aunt can't make it. Really, we don't. Nor do we care whats in the seventeenth Crate & Barrel box that's showed up in our office this week.

display names have been changed to protect the innocent (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 10 April 2009 14:29 (fifteen years ago) link

I've never had dramatic coworkers. I think I'm missing out.

Kerm, Friday, 10 April 2009 14:33 (fifteen years ago) link

She's normally very nice, but since we hit the three week countdown to her wedding she is simply incapable of talking about anything but. Which is fine at lunch or when we are engaging in some small talk, but it grates when she comes over to my desk when I'm in the middle of something and wants to tell me that her aunt called last night because she can't come to the wedding.

display names have been changed to protect the innocent (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 10 April 2009 14:35 (fifteen years ago) link

i would just ask a thousand million banal questions until they got weirded out and left me alone.

Kerm, Friday, 10 April 2009 14:37 (fifteen years ago) link

the week after i say i wish nothing changed anytime soon.. find out that a couple of us will prob get laid off! ;_; powers-that-be obv saw we liked our work environment too much.

also, not annoying so much as absurd: guy on twitter who makes pervy comments & sometimes complains about his crazy coworkers, wondering why they don't like him - uh maybe it is because they all know about & read it??? a possibly v cool job might be open, working for him & i am tempted to investigate b/c i actually don't have a problem with the guy. though i guess everyone else would think i'm completely messed up for walking into that situation, and i have a feeling he & my current boss (who is a great guy) despise each other. though maybe i'm misreading it & it's just normal behavior of two tech guys in a dick waving contest

the shep (shepard smith ha ha) (daria-g), Saturday, 11 April 2009 16:06 (fifteen years ago) link

srsly the idea of working for this person is so creepy/bizarre/awful that it seems like it'd be a hilarious adventure, but it probably wouldn't be, would it. although the fact that i see it this way probably means it might work out? i mean, i don't have an ego thing where i'd constantly have to one-up people on tech knowledge, i find it amusing when ppl do that.

the shep (shepard smith ha ha) (daria-g), Saturday, 11 April 2009 16:22 (fifteen years ago) link

dear stupid annoying lady, please answer your phone so we can have a conversation instead of sending me vague emails like 'ok...' after i confirmed a detail which lead me to believe you are still checking into things and then not confirming with me when i follow up about whether you were saying 'ok...' to my answer to your question or okaying my initial request. when you finally answer your phone, don't give me the, 'when i say ok that means it is confirmed' treatment because ellipses lead people to believe there is more coming later, etc.

I fucking hate this! How hard is it to be specific in emails. This one bitch sent me one the other day with so many typos and nonsensical sentences I thought a monkey wrote it.

III IV V (Bo Jackson Overdrive), Saturday, 11 April 2009 20:09 (fifteen years ago) link

xpost - daria-g - how closely would you have to work with him - like just for approving the stuff you do now and again, or work WITH him every day?

ljubljana, Saturday, 11 April 2009 20:10 (fifteen years ago) link

This one bitch sent me one the other day with so many typos and nonsensical sentences I thought a monkey wrote it

Someone I occasionally have dealings with -- not a colleague -- does this all the time: she is perfectly eloquent and to-the-point in person or in other writing, but seems to see e-mail as "my thought processes on a screen". I ended up asking her never to e-mail me again, which was a bit brutal but has saved a lot of grief.

a tiny, faltering megaphone (grimly fiendish), Saturday, 11 April 2009 20:33 (fifteen years ago) link

Wow, nice and blunt! What was her reaction?

WmC, Saturday, 11 April 2009 23:30 (fifteen years ago) link

xpost - he would be my boss and explaining how to do everything! i'd be working closely with this person on a daily basis. intuitively i make a distinction between this guy having kind of an overblown id vs a guy who used to work there and was just skeevy and gross. still - some feminist i am! at my last job, the one dude i liked a lot & would've happily worked for, eventually got fired for sexual harassment (of both men and women, hahaha).. though i'm not convinced he didn't get railroaded b/c one of the accusers was, himself, captain inappropriate. and anyway, far as that job went, i'm less angry about that guy saying some stuff (which was the extent of it) than about my super nice boss there, who was ok with paying women less money for equal work. i mean, whatever, the "nice guys" that i work with now totally discuss amongst themselves the women at the office, which are hot & which are hot but kind of crazy and which one is a scary bitch because she is, ohno, tough and isn't afraid to argue. that's how it goes.

anyway. ultimately.. i'm thinking about the direction of my current organization itself & whether i'd prefer to go someplace else - currently looking at other nonprofits involved with human rights/social justice type work.

the shep (shepard smith ha ha) (daria-g), Sunday, 12 April 2009 03:00 (fifteen years ago) link

I guess if you might be laid off anyway, and you're looking around anyway for other reasons too (direction of the organization), and you recognize that there are more Mr Inappropriates out there than it's possible to count, all in subtly different ways.... sod it, why not? There are enough people out there to actively dislike, and you don't dislike this guy, and you can always leave (or if you moved positions would you have to stick around for a couple of years for it to look ok?)

ljubljana, Sunday, 12 April 2009 04:04 (fifteen years ago) link

What was her reaction?

Absolutely nothing! I sent the e-mail; she didn't reply. And it's never been mentioned since :)

a tiny, faltering megaphone (grimly fiendish), Sunday, 12 April 2009 12:46 (fifteen years ago) link

(Nor have I had any e-mails from her. She has sent me a couple of messages on Facebook but -- bizarrely -- those make perfect sense.)

a tiny, faltering megaphone (grimly fiendish), Sunday, 12 April 2009 12:47 (fifteen years ago) link

Yeah, thanks. I appreciate every single one of you for bailing out right at 5 while the boss and I were on that conference call, knowing full well we were to all pitch in to assemble these sets we needed to submit. I deeply appreciate being stuck here by myself for 4 full hours to do a job that would have taken all of us 30 minutes tops to get done. Fuck you all very much. When I laugh at you the next time you ask me to stay late to help you dig out from under a deadline you blew off, you'll know why.

display names have been changed to protect the innocent (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 14 April 2009 23:47 (fifteen years ago) link

hah this is like the time when we were all sitting around waiting for something to be approved so we could put something together for an important event the next morning and my boss just decided she could go home and leave us there for another 3 hours.

ugh, Tuesday, 14 April 2009 23:50 (fifteen years ago) link

Needed to vent. These are the nights when I start to think, "would retail really be THAT bad?".

display names have been changed to protect the innocent (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 14 April 2009 23:52 (fifteen years ago) link

At least you were there with the boss, so you'll come out smellin' of roses?

one art, please (Trayce), Tuesday, 14 April 2009 23:54 (fifteen years ago) link

True, but this is the type of boss that rarely acknowledges things like that.

display names have been changed to protect the innocent (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 14 April 2009 23:54 (fifteen years ago) link

Ugh I hate it when that happens. They notice every minor screwup, but do something awesome/come in early/stay back late and do they notice? noooo.

one art, please (Trayce), Wednesday, 15 April 2009 01:00 (fifteen years ago) link

Ok, once upon a time the schmuck was me. So...the job I have now is a morphed version of a job I started back in 2006. I'm pretty high performing in the job now, but at the time in 06, it was a promotion and I was a barrel of nerves. So at times I tended to react sharply, as I wasn't much of a leader yet.

Well, among other things, is I made jokes I shouldn't have about other people on the project to relieve my frustration. One time, a particular co-worker sent me an email which contained typos - she was new to the team with little preparation and was under a lot of duress. A friend who I forwarded the email asked me what something in the email meant - I figured it out, and remarked that the lady "typed like garbage".

I wound up having to go back to her later for an answer to a question, and forwarded the email thread - without realizing that email was still in there. She wrote me a strange email telling me she had little preparation and was under a lot of duress, and I made the connection. I felt like a humongous asshole and called her and apologized - my behavior got much better after that.

Then there was the time where one of our customer service associates yet again let a call escalate above her because she had no call handling skills. It was 6 pm (closing), I was tired, stressed out from a long week, and just wanted to go home...after bickering for 2 minutes, I yelled at her to just "transfer me the fucking call".

Glad I survived those years...I was insufferable to people for a short while.

III IV V (Bo Jackson Overdrive), Wednesday, 15 April 2009 01:43 (fifteen years ago) link

Arrrrgh... I tire of hearing one of the helpdesk girls constantly grilling customer with "are you SURE....?"

"are you SURE you dont run your own mail server?"
"are you SURE thats what it says on the screen?"

I mean I know somem customers are thick as planks when it comes to IT, but accusing them of lying is poor form.

one art, please (Trayce), Thursday, 16 April 2009 06:52 (fifteen years ago) link

hmm, i dunno that i 100% agree

pale spector (electricsound), Thursday, 16 April 2009 06:57 (fifteen years ago) link

Well re-querying them is fine (ppl do make shit up all the time - "no I dont have a Control Panel!" etc etc), but its the way she says it, I think. Rather accusatory and disbelieving.

one art, please (Trayce), Thursday, 16 April 2009 06:58 (fifteen years ago) link

"no I dont have a Control Panel!"

looooooool

pale spector (electricsound), Thursday, 16 April 2009 07:06 (fifteen years ago) link

"no I don't have a My Computer icon!" then it turns out that they've renamed it "Tiddles" after their cat

snoball, Thursday, 16 April 2009 08:17 (fifteen years ago) link

Your Incident #10201 has been closed. If you believe this is in error, please contact ACC Support immediately. Details are as follows:

Assigned To: LXXXXX CXXXX in the IT_SUPPORT group
Category: Hardware - Desktop/Laptop - Monitor
Description: computer does not appear to be turning on
Resolution: monitor was shut off

Ummm yeah OK this was me this a.m. Sorry dude, I know I was stupid and annoying and do sincerely apologize ;__;

quincie, Thursday, 16 April 2009 15:19 (fifteen years ago) link

:D

Mr. Que, Thursday, 16 April 2009 15:22 (fifteen years ago) link

Hahaha oops! :)

one art, please (Trayce), Thursday, 16 April 2009 23:15 (fifteen years ago) link

was LXXXXX CXXXX mad?

69, Thursday, 16 April 2009 23:22 (fifteen years ago) link

Yes ha ha ha coworkers, I had my headphones on so I cant hear the joke you're pretending to make in my direction and laughing at me, making me feel like an idiot.

Thanks for ACTUALLY thus making me look bad when I rip off my headphones, hear you laughing, so I snap "I fucking HATE it when people do that to me" which makes me look like the asshole.

Thanks guys. Thanks a lot.

one art, please (Trayce), Friday, 17 April 2009 00:36 (fifteen years ago) link

(I'm not in the best mood lately because I'm suffering from nasty hearing loss :/ )

one art, please (Trayce), Friday, 17 April 2009 00:37 (fifteen years ago) link

ok, we finally have gorgeous, lovely weather and you are running the freaking spaceheater?!

ugh, Friday, 17 April 2009 21:08 (fifteen years ago) link

"I used to live near a Muslim school and, I'm not joking here, I used to see the kids in the playground run around and pretend to be planes. They'd even run into each other. It was pretty disturbing!"

National Lampoon's Minimal House (DJ Mencap), Friday, 24 April 2009 09:10 (fifteen years ago) link

^ quality lol

Bostin' Legal (sic), Friday, 24 April 2009 13:23 (fifteen years ago) link

This morning my cubicle-neighbour arrived and after preliminary greetings, she asks [in a loudish voice, in an otherwise very quiet but definitely populated workspace], "Uh, do you ever shave...down there?"

Could not work out why I was reluctant to answer. Then proceeds (for no reason, just to make conversation) to describe her ingrown hair issue 'down there'. Same volume, but she'd just drop her voice to a whisper any time there she used a 'personal' word. This tactic of course allows any human being with functioning intelligence to figure out what words she was whispering. She then called her mother and her friend and spent about 1/2 hour each relaying the same story about the ingrown hair.

She does the normal-voice-interspersed-with-whispered-keywords thing when talking inappropriately about other subjects, too.

franny glass, Friday, 24 April 2009 17:20 (fifteen years ago) link

Good god, either she's one of those people who loves to call attention to themselves all the time (I've actually known two females in my life of this variety and they seem to revel in being as obnoxious as possible), or I mean, god, what a freaking dimwit. You have my sympathies.

Earl of Gothington Manor (Bimble), Friday, 24 April 2009 18:37 (fifteen years ago) link

Haha, nah to be fair she's actually someone I quite like in small doses. But as a coworker, she is incredibly annoying in so many ridiculous ways.

franny glass, Friday, 24 April 2009 20:00 (fifteen years ago) link

ok lying to me about shit was unacceptable, but also, can you stop making EVERY sentence some highly dramatic thing? when i ask you what an invoice is for, i don't need a 10-minute step-by-step explanation of what was in it, i just need to allocate the charges. i am not an idiot. i understand what we do here.

ugh, Tuesday, 28 April 2009 15:32 (fifteen years ago) link

I so need a job, I miss contributing to this thread

not_goodwin, Tuesday, 28 April 2009 15:41 (fifteen years ago) link

the fucking pair of you, stop laughing hysterically at your own gags

Ant Attack.. (Ste), Wednesday, 29 April 2009 13:05 (fifteen years ago) link

coworker v obviously trying to disguise the fact that she's wearing the same clothes as yesterday...

tehresa, Wednesday, 29 April 2009 16:32 (fifteen years ago) link

as long as undies are changed, that's fine isn't it?
she may have got lucky?

not_goodwin, Wednesday, 29 April 2009 16:39 (fifteen years ago) link

well it's not as exciting bc she has a steady boyfriend.

tehresa, Wednesday, 29 April 2009 16:41 (fifteen years ago) link

that makes it MORE exciting... poor boyfriend :(

where we turn sweet dreams into remarkable realities (just1n3), Wednesday, 29 April 2009 16:43 (fifteen years ago) link

oh no what have i said :)

not_goodwin, Wednesday, 29 April 2009 16:56 (fifteen years ago) link

awesome!

The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Wednesday, 29 April 2009 18:03 (fifteen years ago) link

*coughs*
"I think it's just allergies, not Swine Flu."
office lol

•--• --- --- •--• (Pleasant Plains), Wednesday, 29 April 2009 18:51 (fifteen years ago) link

dude from office down the hall (who is normally v awesome), stressed about a project, decides to sit in our office for a while being irate and swearing angrily at his laptop. so i'm like.. hey, things were so positive until you came in here. i don't think that went over well

*shrugs*

reche caldwell O_O (daria-g), Wednesday, 29 April 2009 20:12 (fifteen years ago) link

ha ha that sounds like something i would do--the saying hey things were postive not the cursing

Mr. Que, Wednesday, 29 April 2009 20:14 (fifteen years ago) link

i swear up a storm, i admit it. try to stop sometimes because i guess it's kind of low class, but it doesn't take. i don't get mad at work much, though.

it's a weird situation because i know they're under a lot of pressure right now, and yet.. i'm pretty sure i manage to handle high pressure situations without being pissy to my coworkers. unless the job is one prolonged high pressure situation in which case everyone is fair game

reche caldwell O_O (daria-g), Wednesday, 29 April 2009 20:22 (fifteen years ago) link

Every friday the guys on either side of me throw a nerf football back and forth over my head, so of course I've been clocked in the head a few times.

Last week I (jokingly, I thoughgt) said "if that ball hits me again heads will roll and there will be BLOOODDD". When I looked up I noticed they were all looking nervously at me, lol.

one art, please (Trayce), Wednesday, 29 April 2009 23:25 (fifteen years ago) link

Songs sung today by the guy in the next office:

'Lo-lo-lo-la-Lola!'

'Rudolph the blue-ringed octopus...'

'Catch the fish and light the fire...'

'Sing songs, sing songs!'

'People... people who need people...'

'I coulda danced all night!'

James Morrison, Thursday, 30 April 2009 06:07 (fifteen years ago) link

Every friday the guys on either side of me throw a nerf football back and forth over my head, so of course I've been clocked in the head a few times

Fuck me, really? If I worked with these "guys", that would have gone so far up someone's arsehole by now they'd have an interestingly shaped new head.

a tiny, faltering megaphone (grimly fiendish), Thursday, 30 April 2009 08:15 (fifteen years ago) link

At least it wasn't a cricket ball. Two guys at a place where I used to work would often throw a cricket ball back and forth. Ever seen one smash into a laptop screen? Makes a real mess...

snoball, Thursday, 30 April 2009 09:03 (fifteen years ago) link

Hah yes, that reminds me of one of my first jobs at the foreign office. I worked in the mailroom in the basement, which was a big warehouse space with loads of ... well, space, so occasionally the guys'd play cricket. With a tennis ball, but when you hit a tennisball upward at a fair whack and it hits an overhead light, that light's gonna smash and shower everyone in plastic.

Ah, fun times. We used to listen to Blue Oyster Cult and Dead Can Dance and the Clash, and the supervisor'd sneak into the loading bay and smoke weed.

65daysofsugban (Trayce), Thursday, 30 April 2009 09:50 (fifteen years ago) link

Same coworker as upthread has spent approx. 3 hours on the phone today shouting at her insurance company.

franny glass, Thursday, 30 April 2009 18:25 (fifteen years ago) link

"i knew what I wanted to study in college. that's why i know about all the world's religions." <-- designs flyers

Long, helmet-defying hair (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 30 April 2009 18:37 (fifteen years ago) link

&^%^%$%^$ Fuck! Why is it SO HARD to control a customer's expectations, explain to him what the problem is and that we're fixing it? Why does it take you half an hour of blathering, to leave the customer thinking we aren't fixing the problem/completely misunderstanding whats wrong?

I take over and talk to the guy for like, 2 minutes and he understands and goes away happy, its not fskcing rocket surgery.

65daysofsugban (Trayce), Friday, 1 May 2009 01:43 (fifteen years ago) link

Man I could never be a manager, I would be far too witheringly horrible and bitchy to my staff, I think :|

65daysofsugban (Trayce), Friday, 1 May 2009 01:44 (fifteen years ago) link

Songs sung today by the guy in the next office, day 2:

* Unidentified humming tune

* 'Jamie! Oh, Jamie! Jaaaa-meeee!'

* 'Oh yellow rose of Texas...'

* 'Ah-haaaa-haaaa' (unidentified tune)

* 'Wee-doo-dee-doo-dee-doo' (to the tune of 'Living Doll')

* 'Why doooooooooooooooooooooooooooo-do-do-do?' (this was so drawn out, he never got as far as the birds suddenly appearing)

* 'Enchante voulez-vou!'

* 'I'm in the mood for love...'

(At this point I went to the printer and his receipt for Liza Minnelli tickets was on top of my print job)

James Morrison, Friday, 1 May 2009 05:48 (fifteen years ago) link

(At this point I went to the printer and his receipt for Liza Minnelli tickets was on top of my print job)

^induced big lol before getting out of bed for work today

used to work with someone who would ALWAYS say, on the phone or in person when he was asked how he was, how are things etc, "not three bad". it would grate very quickly. probably said "to SOME tune" about 50 times a day too, by way of emphasis.

whatever, Friday, 1 May 2009 06:03 (fifteen years ago) link

now i share an office with someone who says one of two things on arriving at work:

(chummy voice) "How are we"
(fake posh voice) "Air hair lair"

whatever, Friday, 1 May 2009 06:06 (fifteen years ago) link

my office mate likes to make up stupid songs. you know, how kids do? but when kids do it, it's cute. when she sings 'my job is interfering with my life in a way that's inappropriate!' to some random succession of notes, it is not.

tehresa, Friday, 1 May 2009 06:19 (fifteen years ago) link

Do we all work with tourettes sufferers or something? One of the guys I work with has repeated song/joke snippets he says over and over. For ages it was that "you're gold and silvUH HUH HUH, I said I wasnt gonna lose my head but then POP goes my heart" song from that horrible film. Over and fucking over. Just that bit.

65daysofsugban (Trayce), Friday, 1 May 2009 06:23 (fifteen years ago) link

(fake posh voice) "Air hair lair"

!? Is that meant to be like "oh hello" in plumvoice?

65daysofsugban (Trayce), Friday, 1 May 2009 06:35 (fifteen years ago) link

Do we all work with tourettes sufferers or something? One of the guys I work with has repeated song/joke snippets he says over and over.

Our version of this guy this morning is endlessly looping "when you were young ba DA you reached for the sun doo DOO doo doo shine on you craaaaaaZEE diamond..." - note incorrect lyrics - this all "sung" in a passable William Shatner recital with an Edinburgh accent.

the innermost wee guy (onimo), Friday, 1 May 2009 09:57 (fifteen years ago) link

thread of gold:
A thread for Steve n.'s list of songs that his boss sings

Pro Creationism Soccer 2009 (ledge), Friday, 1 May 2009 10:06 (fifteen years ago) link

argh whoever keeps making popcorn like 3 afternoons a week is going to drive me crazy. that smell will fill our hall for the next 2 hours.

tehresa, Friday, 1 May 2009 19:42 (fifteen years ago) link

Not a colleague, but one time a guy who came to give a presentation on data storage systems interspersed his talk with under-the-breath drum machine noises.

snoball, Friday, 1 May 2009 19:46 (fifteen years ago) link

A thread for Steve n.'s list of songs that his boss sings is a gem. I love it!

James Morrison, Saturday, 2 May 2009 06:12 (fifteen years ago) link

dear boss,
why did you wait until 1 week before leaving for china to arrange your business visa when you've known you were going for 2 months? arasl;dgkjadglkj thanks for making my last 3 days at this job so, so pleasant!

tehresa, Monday, 11 May 2009 17:15 (fifteen years ago) link

if it's your last 3 days - why do you care?

The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Monday, 11 May 2009 17:41 (fifteen years ago) link

i have this crazy work ethic thing. ugh.

tehresa, Monday, 11 May 2009 18:14 (fifteen years ago) link

fuck it.
lets get drunk at lunch.

The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Monday, 11 May 2009 18:29 (fifteen years ago) link

i can't even leave to go get my lunch! a;sldkgj

tehresa, Monday, 11 May 2009 18:31 (fifteen years ago) link

ya, god forbid they should fire you!

The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Monday, 11 May 2009 18:42 (fifteen years ago) link

LOL theres no way hes gonna get a working visa to china in a week surely.

65daysofsugban (Trayce), Monday, 11 May 2009 21:37 (fifteen years ago) link

I am the person at jobs (or anywhere) who is always singing snippets of songs, and worse yet is usually shit like "Reach Out of the Darkness" by Friend & Lover or "My Life" by Billy Joel: songs I hate but that are real headworms.

test drives at ur own risk i cant go with you too many bees (Abbott), Monday, 11 May 2009 22:29 (fifteen years ago) link

Actually "Reach Out of the Darkness" is a total jam & I love it.

test drives at ur own risk i cant go with you too many bees (Abbott), Monday, 11 May 2009 22:30 (fifteen years ago) link

My husband calls this "boring Tourette's."

test drives at ur own risk i cant go with you too many bees (Abbott), Monday, 11 May 2009 22:31 (fifteen years ago) link

one of the extras in the commercial i'm working would . not. quit. fidgeting. wanted to strangle the doof.

chip dumstorf, Monday, 11 May 2009 23:45 (fifteen years ago) link

Today _I_ am the stupid co-worker. Carrying too many things, arms full, tried to open door by violently kneeing the door handle, tore gaping hole in pants. Attempts to rectify hole with electrical tape have proven flawed. Am going home by public transport.

James Morrison, Tuesday, 12 May 2009 02:48 (fifteen years ago) link

Attempts to rectify hole with electrical tape

i do like this can-do spirit though

lolsdale street (electricsound), Tuesday, 12 May 2009 02:52 (fifteen years ago) link

seriously i have had nothing to do for like 2 weeks and now it's crazy time but she's all flippant like it's not a big deal. ugh. i know somehow she'll pull strings and end up with the visa and never learn her lesson.

tehresa, Tuesday, 12 May 2009 02:56 (fifteen years ago) link

So, a co-worker of mine has been "fucking up" in the words of another co-worker, and is on THIN ice, employment-wise.

I'm relatively new here, and they seem to like me a lot, and while I'm still learning the ropes, they see that I put forth a good effort and try my best all the time. In other words, I think I'm pretty safe at this point.

Still - shit is TENSE around here. Meeting next Tuesday to discuss things "will suck," by the words of the other co-worker. Yikes.

Two Will Get You Three (B.L.A.M.), Friday, 15 May 2009 16:54 (fourteen years ago) link

Co-worker to me: 'So she said 'do you think I've ever find a man in this city? I'm 32' and I said 'in this city? No way! No WAY!' (I'm 37 and single).

ljubljana, Saturday, 16 May 2009 03:03 (fourteen years ago) link

I've = I'll

ljubljana, Saturday, 16 May 2009 03:04 (fourteen years ago) link

I was the stupid co-worker the other day. My middle-aged female editor and I rounded a corner from opposite directions and nearly collided...

HER: You have to watch out for me around here. They say I'm like a bull in a China shop sometimes.

ME: Haha, like anyone would ever confuse this place with a China shop.

•--• --- --- •--• (Pleasant Plains), Saturday, 16 May 2009 05:17 (fourteen years ago) link

Hahah whoops snap.

"How do I look Professor?"
"Like a cheap French harlot!"
"...French!?"

Sylvia Blap (Trayce), Saturday, 16 May 2009 05:40 (fourteen years ago) link

MUTHAFUCKA I HAVE PLACES TO BE

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 18 May 2009 04:25 (fourteen years ago) link

LIKE

U THINK ITS A GAME OR

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 18 May 2009 04:26 (fourteen years ago) link

awwwwww sheeeet ain't you supposed to be out like 30 min ago?!!/!?!?

ricardos montalban (tehresa), Monday, 18 May 2009 04:28 (fourteen years ago) link

i am not even in this job anymore and i am still getting lazy emails about things that i pre-emptively advised them before i left. wtf it's called "Find" in Outlook. Use it.

ricardos montalban (tehresa), Monday, 18 May 2009 16:31 (fourteen years ago) link

if you have trouble, there is an ADVANCED FIND option!

ricardos montalban (tehresa), Monday, 18 May 2009 16:31 (fourteen years ago) link

T, u a treat.

But not someone who should be dead anyway (Laurel), Monday, 18 May 2009 16:35 (fourteen years ago) link

<3

ricardos montalban (tehresa), Monday, 18 May 2009 16:36 (fourteen years ago) link

"can you make me a list from the database of the things which don't exist on the database"

I do not have words for how much nicer my job was when this person took a week off.

a passing spacecadet, Tuesday, 19 May 2009 08:47 (fourteen years ago) link

you need a left join. a left join on *everything*.

koogs, Tuesday, 19 May 2009 08:52 (fourteen years ago) link

"can you make me a list from the database of the things which don't exist on the database"

make a venn diagram

Lovely release! (sic), Tuesday, 19 May 2009 11:20 (fourteen years ago) link

ha haha - wow. i hope you took that as literally as possible.

The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Tuesday, 19 May 2009 14:19 (fourteen years ago) link

(a) those that belong to the Emperor,
(b) embalmed ones,
(c) those that are trained,
(d) suckling pigs,
(e) mermaids,
(f) fabulous ones,
(g) stray dogs,
(h) those that are included in this classification,
(i) those that tremble as if they were mad,
(j) innumerable ones,
(k) those drawn with a very fine camel’s hair brush,
(l) others,
(m) those that have just broken a flower vase,
(n) those that resemble flies from a distance

massive dynamic lady (ledge), Tuesday, 19 May 2009 14:39 (fourteen years ago) link

Is that Jacob's list?

go and put your f'kin torn jeans on (onimo), Tuesday, 19 May 2009 14:43 (fourteen years ago) link

I wouldn't know about that kind of thing, Ted.

massive dynamic lady (ledge), Tuesday, 19 May 2009 14:48 (fourteen years ago) link

ha hahaha!

The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Tuesday, 19 May 2009 14:58 (fourteen years ago) link

seriously lady, do you talk at your husband at this rate of words per minute without actually saying anything remotely interesting or related to the task at hand? because he is either a saint, hearing impaired, or he lost a bet. how did your family put up with this when you were growing up? did they ever "accidentally" leave you at rest stops?

^defense is impregnable (will), Tuesday, 19 May 2009 17:08 (fourteen years ago) link

OK, this guy I work with (who is here because I recommended him for the job - sort of distant friend/acquaintance/friend of friend person) has been exhibiting very snotty, aggresive frustration with everything for some time now, and today he full on almost screamed "HOY!" at one of our suppliers on the phone to shut the guy up and demand he do something.

The guy sounds like he's about to go postal, it's making me horribly nervous.

Trayce, Wednesday, 20 May 2009 04:14 (fourteen years ago) link

He's always really pissy and sarcastic, like he's forgotten how to talk to people or something.

Trayce, Wednesday, 20 May 2009 04:14 (fourteen years ago) link

Some MFer just stole my creamer out of the fridge. They didn't finish it without asking or anything. THEY STOLE THE WHOLE NEARLY FULL BOTTLE. WTF?

Noooo! Cats are not for eating!!! (ENBB), Wednesday, 20 May 2009 20:15 (fourteen years ago) link

oh shit! My boss had that happen to her earlier (though we think someone just finished the nearly-empty bottle, not outright stole one with cream in it!) and so the one in the fridge now has "Don't even THINK about it" written on it. Heh.

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Wednesday, 20 May 2009 20:32 (fourteen years ago) link

I honestly wouldn't care if someone just used a little or something but c'mon stealing the whole bottle? This is ridiculous!

Noooo! Cats are not for eating!!! (ENBB), Wednesday, 20 May 2009 20:33 (fourteen years ago) link

ok, complaint time..
no one i work with is stupid or annoying. but people in my department tend to push off as many pieces of tasks as they can onto those who make tech requests & to be awfully grouchy/not the most accommodating about them. it was the culture i walked into (last hired). a colleague who's a step up on the ladder from me does this & is effectively the one who sets guidelines. it never struck me that we were THAT overwhelmed by work that we couldn't take the extra step when asked, as long as it didn't get out of hand. i try to be cool about requests and just get stuff done, but said colleague, if there, will insist on asking people for all this specific information before we do anything.

and now it's like, well, if you gradually trained other people throughout the organization, bit by bit, to do parts of our jobs, NO WONDER THE POWERS THAT BE ARE LIKELY TO GET RID OF OUR JOBS. what a clusterfuck! the thing is, i don't really share the attitude of most of the rest of my team (things are changing, you just gotta try and roll with it), and it's like.. how do i connect with others at the organization to figure out if there's a different place for me there, when this is what goes on. (in fairness they're all younger than me & i already had a couple years' experience elsewhere at navigating - badly - the minefield of office politics.)

cnn and the holograms (daria-g), Wednesday, 20 May 2009 20:35 (fourteen years ago) link

I think you may be talking about a different kind of tech, but that's how it was at my last job. Whenever I called IT they were really grouchy and did anything they could not to help me. At my current job, IT is really good.

However, there are rumors that the last 200 or so people hired in my system will be layed off in July. Co-workers, none of them recent hires, keep on asking me my "start date." Implicit in the question is their assessment of whether or not I will be fired.

I started a year and a half ago. If there are lay-offs, there is a good chance I will be among them. However, is it too much to ask for co-workers to have some tact and to keep their thoughts about my future to themselves?

Virginia Plain, Wednesday, 20 May 2009 22:37 (fourteen years ago) link

VP im in a company that was bought out last year but a much bigger company. the layoffs have been weirdly random. in a lot of cases people who have been there 20+ years. ive only been there 2 1/2 which still makes me the new chick but so far ive survived 6 months of constant layoffs. i dont do a better job than most people who are gone and i would certainly be a lot cheaper to get rid of. its really illogical from our point of view (although im sure there is reasoning behind it all). so i wouldnt worry too much about who has been there longest.

I wish I was the royal trux (sunny successor), Thursday, 21 May 2009 00:10 (fourteen years ago) link

Yes, you got a wafflemaker. I'm so proud of you I'm bursting at the seams. But I don't need to hear about it for 2 and a half hours. Shut up shut up shut up.

homage is parody gone sour (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 22 May 2009 16:54 (fourteen years ago) link

when we had layoffs here it was the older, more expensive people who got the chop for the most part. same with a previous place i worked. this could be more an advertising thing tho.

The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Friday, 22 May 2009 17:04 (fourteen years ago) link

When I worked in publishing, they let the older people go because they cost more money. But now I work for the government and am union, and I believe it is done strictly by seniority--last hired first fired. I'm not sure how they allocate for various levels of positions though.

Virginia Plain, Friday, 22 May 2009 18:23 (fourteen years ago) link

some of the dead weight was cut. but most mostly oldies. sometimes i'm glad there's no such thing as unions in this industry. i could not imagine having to keep around people who can't pull their weight simply because they have seniority.

The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Friday, 22 May 2009 19:48 (fourteen years ago) link

Sometimes that happens by default even WITHOUT unions. There are people here who will never leave who I'm not sure are even entirely literate.

But not someone who should be dead anyway (Laurel), Friday, 22 May 2009 20:04 (fourteen years ago) link

how does that work?!

The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Friday, 22 May 2009 20:17 (fourteen years ago) link

That type of things happen a lot. I think nearly every job I've ever had was populated by 1 or 2 long-time employees that no one seemed to want to get rid of, even though they seemed to be complete and utter failures at their assigned tasks.

homage is parody gone sour (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 22 May 2009 20:18 (fourteen years ago) link

These ones are nominally in charge of things. It's...painful. Maybe you don't have to be literate to be in charge?

But not someone who should be dead anyway (Laurel), Friday, 22 May 2009 20:22 (fourteen years ago) link

The lack of any small talk in this office is really starting to get to me. Walked in this morning and gave a general "morning" to all 4 co-workers (we have an open office with no cubicles) and didn't get one single response. Haven't uttered a single word since. Just becoming so difficult to look forward to coming into such an unpleasant environment every day.

homage is parody gone sour (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 26 May 2009 15:23 (fourteen years ago) link

will trade

^defense is impregnable (will), Tuesday, 26 May 2009 15:39 (fourteen years ago) link

Obviously there is a lot of good about not hearing co-worked blathering on about inane shit, but at the same time, sometimes its nice to be able to have pleasant conversations with the people you're stuck in a room with for 50+ hours a week.

homage is parody gone sour (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 26 May 2009 15:42 (fourteen years ago) link

kidding aside, i can see how your situation could be discouraging. just be careful what you wish for. i got to listen to a certain someone drone on for 20 min about her cat getting declawed

^defense is impregnable (will), Tuesday, 26 May 2009 15:47 (fourteen years ago) link

both extremes are bad, said the guy who's worked alone for 8 years now

resistance is feudal (WmC), Tuesday, 26 May 2009 15:48 (fourteen years ago) link

It seems like 90% of the time its deadly silent here (thank god for my iPod), the other 10% is one person going on about something random for hours on end. Happy medium anyone? Wasn't always quite this bad, but since our newest hire moved to an apartment two blocks from another co-worked and they've become all buddy-buddy, they don't bother talking to anyone else.

homage is parody gone sour (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 26 May 2009 15:50 (fourteen years ago) link

jon I know exactly what that's like - have a co-worker who wouldn't say hello to me for the first year or so of my employment! Dumb bitch. Still don't like her - have learned that when she *is* feeling chatty she talks & talks & talks & talks… ugh. In other news, my manager tried to blame every person but herself this morning because an email to one of our employees didn't go through. My co-worker gave her the email address and the phone number, but she only used the email address, and it's EVERYONE'S FAULT, RAR, etc

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Tuesday, 26 May 2009 15:56 (fourteen years ago) link

The lack of any small talk in this office is really starting to get to me. Walked in this morning and gave a general "morning" to all 4 co-workers (we have an open office with no cubicles) and didn't get one single response. Haven't uttered a single word since. Just becoming so difficult to look forward to coming into such an unpleasant environment every day.

― homage is parody gone sour (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, May 26, 2009 10:23 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark

honestly this sounds like dream work environment to me

I wish I was the royal trux (sunny successor), Tuesday, 26 May 2009 18:09 (fourteen years ago) link

We just lost like our 3rd new sales guy in 6 months or something, its like Spinal Tap's drummers or something ffs.

Apparently this guy was doing really well, but something X-treem dodgy came to light and he had to be let go. I'm not allowed to know what it is, but I'm guessing crim record/wasn't aus citizen/something legalistic.

chk chk BOOM! (Trayce), Wednesday, 27 May 2009 00:41 (fourteen years ago) link

"Isn't it crazy that there are people who were born after John Lennon was assassinated so they don't even know that there was a world in which Lennon was alive? That blows my mind."

im drunk so no forks (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 27 May 2009 18:52 (fourteen years ago) link

^amazing!

The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Wednesday, 27 May 2009 23:37 (fourteen years ago) link

This guy is nice enough some of the time, but he tosses off bon mots like this on the regular; I swear to god he is the rocknroll dwight shrute.

im drunk so no forks (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 28 May 2009 04:13 (fourteen years ago) link

"Art is a lot different in Europe; people take it more seriously. Everybody has paintings up in their house. It only makes sense you know, because that's where it blossomed. And what do Americans have? Big screen TVs. Actually, I have a fifty inch plasma in my bedroom and 42 inch in the living room. Which is funny, because I don't watch much television."

Feugh! (since somebody always asks: rhymes with "Peugh!") (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 2 June 2009 15:12 (fourteen years ago) link

I swear to god, I work with a bunch of bitchy seventh grade girls. Two weeks ago, a coworker sent an e-mail to myself and another girl to see if we wanted to go to lunch with him. The girl responded yes right away, but I had to step into a conference call and didn't have a chance to reply just then. So I get out of the conference call, intending to let them know I'd like to join them but get sidetracked by my boss. Leave the conference room and they're gone, they had left for lunch. So I sent them an e-mail saying "What happened? I was going to join you, but you left before I had a chance to tell you". Two week later and they are both still going out of their way to annoy me.

the sideburns are album-specific (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 2 June 2009 16:02 (fourteen years ago) link

ugh
"ignore me" that should be, not "annoy me"

the sideburns are album-specific (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 2 June 2009 16:03 (fourteen years ago) link

jon tell the truth, are you sitting across from me? doubtful, no boys in the office right now but I feel like our co-workers would get on great

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Tuesday, 2 June 2009 17:48 (fourteen years ago) link

Still adjusting to life in cubicle-land after 14-odd months. Had a beer with some co-workers this past weekend - there's one guy that always manages to invite himself along, and none of us can stand him. This guy is your classic dork - quiet, awkwardly shy, with incredibly pedestrian taste in everything. I'm guessing he was the kid that got invited to the birthday party because someone's mother said so - the kind of guy who hovers on the periphery of the conversation and is desperate for an in, who is constantly interjecting but ultimately has nothing to add, and when he finally gets the "Really? Do tell!" that he so desperately craves, his stories are completely content-free. Also, he has a horrible you're-my-girlfriend-on-the-street-in-my-mind crushes on one of the women in my department, and any time she's at one of these nights he'll sit across from her, make wounded puppy dog eyes, and get visibly despondent if she happens to chat or act flirty with one of the other dudes in the group. It's at the point where she'll cut out early if he's there, which is a damned shame because she's hella smart and fun to talk to.

We'll have to be more clandestine in our plans from here on in.

Tantrum The Cat, Tuesday, 2 June 2009 21:48 (fourteen years ago) link

Oh dear, I know a few people like that :|

chk chk BOOM! (Trayce), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 01:26 (fourteen years ago) link

If he were just shy, that would be one thing. Lots of shy people are fun once you get them out of their shell.

But this guy appears to be all shell.

Tantrum The Cat, Wednesday, 3 June 2009 02:37 (fourteen years ago) link

poor guy

go and put your f'kin torn jeans on (onimo), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 10:24 (fourteen years ago) link

Should I be disturbed by a guy who looks at porn in his cubicle all day? I know the boss is watching and I cringe thinking he may get caught and the bad morale that may result from it.

I'm Some Guy (u s steel), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 11:05 (fourteen years ago) link

Bad morale? Guy who spends all day looking at porn while everyone else in the office is working gets caught and fired? Nothing bad about that.

snoball, Wednesday, 3 June 2009 11:30 (fourteen years ago) link

If redundancies had to be made, but guy-who-looks-at-porn (sounds kind of like a 21st century Native American name) didn't get let go, then that would cause bad morale.

snoball, Wednesday, 3 June 2009 11:32 (fourteen years ago) link

That happened at my last job. Guy got caught but not fired and it did, in fact, cause bad morale. I was so so angry about it at the time. Ugh - just thinking about it gets me fired up.

Chaki Demus & Pliers (ENBB), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 11:33 (fourteen years ago) link

"Soundgarden is our Led Zeppelin."
Dude is 44 btw

This Ace of Base is driving me crazy (forksclovetofu), Monday, 8 June 2009 18:47 (fourteen years ago) link

"HAHA, that judge lady Sodom-eyer broke her leg on capitol hill! That's a sign you should stay away from that job!"

This Ace of Base is driving me crazy (forksclovetofu), Monday, 8 June 2009 18:48 (fourteen years ago) link

Not trying to stick up for dude, cause sheesh, but that's how my head pronounces it.

"Gin And Juice," the baddest groove in years (kingkongvsgodzilla), Monday, 8 June 2009 18:59 (fourteen years ago) link

I like my coworkers but I hate listening to music in the office. If I loop an mp3 of white noise* through my headphones for the next 3 hours to drown out the office music should I expect it to be damaging aurally/psychologically?

*because I don't feel like listening to my own choice of music at the moment

salsa shark, Wednesday, 10 June 2009 13:51 (fourteen years ago) link

So, All-Shell Dude was doing "Respect my authori-ty!!!" impressions of Cartman from South Park last week, informing me that "Cartman's the man". This after I mistakenly
made a crack that a co-worker's sunglasses were "very highway patrolman".

Tantrum The Cat, Wednesday, 10 June 2009 17:24 (fourteen years ago) link

Keep calling him Ponch until he either gets the pop culture reference or goes back into his shell...

snoball, Wednesday, 10 June 2009 17:27 (fourteen years ago) link

Still adjusting to life in cubicle-land after 14-odd months. Had a beer with some co-workers this past weekend - there's one guy that always manages to invite himself along, and none of us can stand him. This guy is your classic dork - quiet, awkwardly shy, with incredibly pedestrian taste in everything. I'm guessing he was the kid that got invited to the birthday party because someone's mother said so - the kind of guy who hovers on the periphery of the conversation and is desperate for an in, who is constantly interjecting but ultimately has nothing to add, and when he finally gets the "Really? Do tell!" that he so desperately craves, his stories are completely content-free. Also, he has a horrible you're-my-girlfriend-on-the-street-in-my-mind crushes on one of the women in my department, and any time she's at one of these nights he'll sit across from her, make wounded puppy dog eyes, and get visibly despondent if she happens to chat or act flirty with one of the other dudes in the group. It's at the point where she'll cut out early if he's there, which is a damned shame because she's hella smart and fun to talk to.

We'll have to be more clandestine in our plans from here on in.

― Tantrum The Cat, Tuesday, June 2, 2009 9:48 PM (1 week ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

This post makes me actually wonder if you work in the same company as me.

My cubiclemate from upthread found a large-ish bug in her apartment LAST WEEK and has spent the past 4 work days describing it to every person she sees, plus on the phone to every friend and family member. I think I've heard this story upwards of 50 times.

franny glass, Wednesday, 10 June 2009 20:10 (fourteen years ago) link

I went out of my way just now to help a customer with their new DSL upgrade by recommending some troubleshooting - this despite it not being at all part of my job, I just provision the connections - and when I suggested our helpdesk could do more in depth troubleshooting he replies to my email with "I'm on hold with them now, thanks for the hand ball"

Wanker.

freeway onramps for arms, and a heart as black as coal (Trayce), Thursday, 11 June 2009 00:50 (fourteen years ago) link

OK, the next dude over will NOT STOP RANDOMLY WHISTLING ALONG with whatever's in his headphones. Sweetheart of a guy, otherwise, but JEEZ.

Tantrum The Cat, Friday, 12 June 2009 23:03 (fourteen years ago) link

"Art is a lot different in Europe; people take it more seriously. Everybody has paintings up in their house. It only makes sense you know, because that's where it blossomed. And what do Americans have? Big screen TVs. Actually, I have a fifty inch plasma in my bedroom and 42 inch in the living room. Which is funny, because I don't watch much television."

― Feugh! (since somebody always asks: rhymes with "Peugh!") (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, June 2, 2009 10:12 AM (1 week ago) Bookmark

this sounds like something Patrick Bateman would say

I wish I was the royal trux (sunny successor), Saturday, 13 June 2009 09:27 (fourteen years ago) link

My cubiclemate from upthread found a large-ish bug in her apartment LAST WEEK and has spent the past 4 work days describing it to every person she sees, plus on the phone to every friend and family member. I think I've heard this story upwards of 50 times.

― franny glass, Wednesday, June 10, 2009 8:10 PM (6 days ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

THIS IS STILL GOING ON. She has literally screamed three times this morning while looking at photos of it. She is now on the phone reading out a wikipedia description of the species of bug to a friend. I may have a heart attack.

franny glass, Tuesday, 16 June 2009 14:00 (fourteen years ago) link

Get her a box of these:

http://images.encyclopediadramatica.com/images/0/02/Spiders_Ceiling.jpg

NotEnough, Tuesday, 16 June 2009 16:54 (fourteen years ago) link

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

man saves ducklings from (ledge), Tuesday, 16 June 2009 17:06 (fourteen years ago) link

Images off!

Tantrum The Cat, Tuesday, 16 June 2009 18:40 (fourteen years ago) link

why does this women that sits near me have to verbalize everything that pops into her brain? constant string of mumbles and comments!! stop please!!

carne asada, Tuesday, 16 June 2009 19:05 (fourteen years ago) link

slurpy talky gaspy is trying to ween herself off caffeine. i'm hopeful...

^defense is impregnable (will), Tuesday, 16 June 2009 20:08 (fourteen years ago) link

Crouching over your wastebasket, clipping your fingernails. You guys are great to work with, but seriously, the ".........Snip!............Snip! Snip!............... ........Snip!" has got to stop.

Pleasant Plains, Tuesday, 16 June 2009 20:29 (fourteen years ago) link

why does this women that sits near me have to verbalize everything that pops into her brain? constant string of mumbles and comments!! stop please!!

Doesn't every office have one of these?

ailsa, Tuesday, 16 June 2009 20:35 (fourteen years ago) link

> Crouching over your wastebasket, clipping your fingernails.

was a man and a woman doing this on the train on sunday. god knows where all the little pieces went.

koogs, Tuesday, 16 June 2009 21:05 (fourteen years ago) link

why does this women that sits near me have to verbalize everything that pops into her brain? constant string of mumbles and comments!! stop please!!

Oh dear, I'm afraid I am That Person in my office :/

I'm Rick Wakeman, bitch! (Trayce), Wednesday, 17 June 2009 00:46 (fourteen years ago) link

Terrible habit of talking to m'self. I'm awfully aware of it, but its horribly compulsive.

I'm Rick Wakeman, bitch! (Trayce), Wednesday, 17 June 2009 00:47 (fourteen years ago) link

was that meant for us?

The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Wednesday, 17 June 2009 04:09 (fourteen years ago) link

No but this is - screw you hippy!

I'm Rick Wakeman, bitch! (Trayce), Wednesday, 17 June 2009 04:34 (fourteen years ago) link

Argh, there's a woman on the bus I sometimes get (the one I shouldn't get because it gets me in 35 minutes late instead of 20 minutes early), and every time she clips her fingernails all over the bus, then douses them with some kind of nail strengthening serum while filing them, then varnishes them. Cannot stand this! Sounds horrible and fills the entire bus atmosphere with vile-smelling chemicals and keratinous dust.

I have a bad habit of making little "aah"/"ulp"/"grmph" noises whenever I inflict some embarrassing slapstick pratfall upon myself (e.g. opening the window yesterday and discovering on turning round that I'd somehow got entangled in the blind cords), which happens way too often, and then I feel obliged to explain it, and then... but luckily this office already has an Unnecessary Running Commentary Woman and so I am probably safe from that title while she's here

a passing spacecadet, Wednesday, 17 June 2009 09:25 (fourteen years ago) link

The sound of someone clipping their fingernails is the most horrible sound in existence. I have had to deal with the on-the-bus clippers before and it is like torture. If it was going on at my place of work I think I would have to make a complaint or something.

franny glass, Wednesday, 17 June 2009 13:08 (fourteen years ago) link

slurping and gasping and talking about the Twilight books and Angels & Demons. guess we're still on the caffeine : /

^defense is impregnable (will), Wednesday, 17 June 2009 13:38 (fourteen years ago) link

talking about the Twilight books and Angels & Demons at an incredibally rapid pace

^defense is impregnable (will), Wednesday, 17 June 2009 13:39 (fourteen years ago) link

incredibly

and hey guys, if you have an "emergency", please contact me via email. do NOT leave me a voicemail. I always have my blackberry on me, but I'm away from my desk phone probably 40% of the day. in fact, I should never return to my office to see a voicemail light flashing. like ever. unless it's some jack-legged vendor who I won't be calling back anyway.

^ persecutes Christians (will), Friday, 19 June 2009 14:25 (fourteen years ago) link

also, unless you work at 1) a hospital 2) police station 3) fire station, it's not really an "emergency" ffs. just FYI.

^ persecutes Christians (will), Friday, 19 June 2009 14:28 (fourteen years ago) link

^ should probably tell 'em that. voicemail feels more urgent than email, to me. xp.

man saves ducklings from (ledge), Friday, 19 June 2009 14:29 (fourteen years ago) link

if this were a client I'd totally understand. but these are coworkers. they know what's up.

^ persecutes Christians (will), Friday, 19 June 2009 14:31 (fourteen years ago) link

"This is, like, a great time to be Iranian. You know what the best part about this is? We had nothing to do with it! It's all on them!

(pronounced /ˈfɑrv/sklOf/tO/fewˈ/) (forksclovetofu), Friday, 19 June 2009 15:39 (fourteen years ago) link

"That's hacker speak for a 'Blackberry'. 'Crackberry' refers to how easy it is to 'crack' the phone and add illegal applications."

(pronounced /ˈfɑrv/sklOf/tO/fewˈ/) (forksclovetofu), Friday, 19 June 2009 21:32 (fourteen years ago) link

NO IT DOES NOT IT REFERS TO THE ADDICTIVE QUALITY OF THE BLACKBERRY INTERFACE AND THE FACT THAT ACOLYTES OF THE DEVICE NEVER STOP USING IT FUCK FUCK FUCK SHUT UP

(pronounced /ˈfɑrv/sklOf/tO/fewˈ/) (forksclovetofu), Friday, 19 June 2009 21:33 (fourteen years ago) link

Now he's holding forth about 'breaking into' an iphone

(pronounced /ˈfɑrv/sklOf/tO/fewˈ/) (forksclovetofu), Friday, 19 June 2009 21:34 (fourteen years ago) link

lol

bnw, Friday, 19 June 2009 21:39 (fourteen years ago) link

also, unless you work at 1) a hospital 2) police station 3) fire station, it's not really an "emergency" ffs. just FYI.

OMG this, yes. I hate, hate this. I work for an architecture firm and deal with these "emergencies" all the time. Like I get a voicemail from a frantic contractor asking me to call him back because he has an emergency on site. Call him back and it turns out the painter wanted to know which color to paint the door frames. So not an emergency, by any definition. Besides if there is a real emergency, I'm not going to be able to do something about it ffs.

the sideburns are album-specific (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 19 June 2009 21:43 (fourteen years ago) link

In IT support everything is an "emergency" and usually it's something like "the keyboard cable fell out". See also "ASAP". "The client wants this done ASAP" "Yes I know, so does everybody!"

snoball, Friday, 19 June 2009 21:50 (fourteen years ago) link

Argh bane of my life, that. Customers who shriek and flap about urgent orders, has a deadline omg (and sometimes it's true, say if they're relocating offices).

And then what happens? We fucking knock ourselves out for them, complete the order...and then they sit on their hands and dont even connect up the router for weeks.

&^^%$%^$

I'm Rick Wakeman, bitch! (Trayce), Saturday, 20 June 2009 00:54 (fourteen years ago) link

"You know, in this system we've created over the past two thousand years? As humans? I don't think we're capable of helping each other. Not at this point. There's a lot of very simple solutions to complex problems. But we overthink it. That's why we're all fucked."
^conversation started about cellphone carriers, moved to Iran elections; this was his wrap up speech.

Mindless Thugs Mixtape Volume One (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 24 June 2009 15:43 (fourteen years ago) link

lol I have never met him, yet I want to punch him

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Wednesday, 24 June 2009 15:50 (fourteen years ago) link

Twenty minute conversation about Natalie Merchant, who he says he knows from her Woodstock days ends with: "It's cool. She's a scorpio. They have a technique for reinvention. Rise like a phoenix."

He also tends to hold forth about Barry Windsor Smith.

Mindless Thugs Mixtape Volume One (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 24 June 2009 16:17 (fourteen years ago) link

I can just picture what a complete tossbag he is. Also, re: punching, unfortunately he sounds like the kind of guy who, when someone punches him, whines "whhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhy did you doooooooooo thaaat?" and has no awareness at all that he is being an annoying bore.

snoball, Wednesday, 24 June 2009 16:18 (fourteen years ago) link

again, he's not the worst guy. it's just some of the things he says makes me want to take a hatchet to him.

Mindless Thugs Mixtape Volume One (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 24 June 2009 16:19 (fourteen years ago) link

That's the problem - someone who mugs pensioners you can be justifiable angry with, but when it comes to saying "well there's this guy at the office", complaining about him just seems a bit petty. But you still want to slap him.

snoball, Wednesday, 24 June 2009 16:22 (fourteen years ago) link

Actually I remember a similar character from somewhere I used to work years ago. It was a call centre, and this guy was fed up of people interupting him while he was on the phone using a hands free headset. His solution was to go out and buy one of those flashing police lights that crap mobile DJs have. he put it on his monitor (lolCRT), and would switch it on every time he was on the phone. After about an hour of flash-flash-flash, several people in the office wanted to knock the shite out of him. I often wondered how that situation escalated so quickly, and I think it was because now everyone had a justifiable reason to criticise the guy.

snoball, Wednesday, 24 June 2009 16:27 (fourteen years ago) link

and hey guys, if you have an "emergency", please contact me via email. do NOT leave me a voicemail. I always have my blackberry on me, but I'm away from my desk phone probably 40% of the day. in fact, I should never return to my office to see a voicemail light flashing. like ever. unless it's some jack-legged vendor who I won't be calling back anyway.

this is one of the 1,000 reason for me disconnecting my work voicemail!

The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Wednesday, 24 June 2009 16:46 (fourteen years ago) link

My boss is belching over and over at her desk 3m away. I can hear it through my music/headphones.

James Morrison, Thursday, 25 June 2009 00:09 (fourteen years ago) link

It was a call centre, and this guy was fed up of people interupting him while he was on the phone using a hands free headset. His solution was to go out and buy one of those flashing police lights that crap mobile DJs have.

OK lol at his ridic solution, but jesus h, I hate people who walk up to you when you're on the phone and just start jabbering away at you. I just put my hand up in their face when they do it. Yeah, it probably looks rude but they started it.

I'm Rick Wakeman, bitch! (Trayce), Thursday, 25 June 2009 00:14 (fourteen years ago) link

"Ha, look at this! They're calling this issue of the Village Voice the 'queer issue'. Every issue of the Voice is the queer issue!"

Mindless Thugs Mixtape Volume One (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 25 June 2009 15:47 (fourteen years ago) link

"[enormous panicked gasp] Farrah Fawcett died??? I just saw her on TV a couple of weeks ago!!"

franny glass, Thursday, 25 June 2009 17:08 (fourteen years ago) link

"You know what the biggest spiritual movement in America is right now? Wicca and Druidism. Going back to the roots. Bonfires."

Mindless Thugs Mixtape Volume One (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 25 June 2009 18:22 (fourteen years ago) link

^i swear to god this came out of a conversation about sinead o'connor

Mindless Thugs Mixtape Volume One (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 25 June 2009 18:23 (fourteen years ago) link

some new guy to my left has been huffing and puffing since he started, and then he has this annoying shake thing he does on his chair, and he keeps staring at me when i talk to other people.

and i wish he wouldn't cough so chuffing loudly.

Great Scott! It's Molecular Man. (Ste), Friday, 26 June 2009 10:15 (fourteen years ago) link

Seriously, everybody in this office needs to shut up about Michael above and beyond an RIP and playing his music. I'm getting kinda pissed here.

Mindless Thugs Mixtape Volume One (forksclovetofu), Friday, 26 June 2009 16:34 (fourteen years ago) link

"You know who's glad Michael Jackson died? The Iranian government. He took all the heat off them."

wacky out of context phrase is the worst look (forksclovetofu), Monday, 29 June 2009 19:40 (fourteen years ago) link

"How is it that I keep emailing myself spam? Someone explain this to me."

wacky out of context phrase is the worst look (forksclovetofu), Monday, 29 June 2009 21:30 (fourteen years ago) link

http://www.postmoderncritic.com/images/fightclub2.jpg

snoball, Monday, 29 June 2009 21:37 (fourteen years ago) link

"You know who's glad Michael Jackson died? The Iranian government. He took all the heat off them."

was this said to you - or was this overheard? i'd really like to know what the reaction was.

The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Monday, 29 June 2009 23:44 (fourteen years ago) link

All this stuff is overheard; he doesn't talk much to me. The reaction was what the reaction generally is to these kind of announcements: silence from all nearby.

wacky out of context phrase is the worst look (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 30 June 2009 03:06 (fourteen years ago) link

OMG this, yes. I hate, hate this. I work for an architecture firm and deal with these "emergencies" all the time. Like I get a voicemail from a frantic contractor asking me to call him back because he has an emergency on site. Call him back and it turns out the painter wanted to know which color to paint the door frames.

This is totally an emergency. There's nothing worse than an entire job stalling because someone who needs to make a decision either isn't doing it or isn't available.

My vagina has a dress code. (milo z), Tuesday, 30 June 2009 03:17 (fourteen years ago) link

This is totally an emergency. There's nothing worse than an entire job stalling because someone who needs to make a decision either isn't doing it or isn't available.

― My vagina has a dress code. (milo z), Tuesday, June 30, 2009 3:17 AM (11 minutes ago) Bookmark

You've got it. Workplaces can be become the worst kind of mess if this becomes incorporated into the culture.

"You know who's glad Michael Jackson died? The Iranian government. He took all the heat off them."

― wacky out of context phrase is the worst look (forksclovetofu), Monday, June 29, 2009 7:40 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

Actually I really like the idea of an Iranian clerical hit squad poisoning an American pop star in order to quell a rebellion.

worse then asaping every email is marking your every message HIGH PRIORITY! in outlook.

bnw, Tuesday, 30 June 2009 04:21 (fourteen years ago) link

This is totally an emergency. There's nothing worse than an entire job stalling because someone who needs to make a decision either isn't doing it or isn't available.

No, its a completely avoidable situation that could have been entirely avoided had the contractor had the foresight to call me ahead of time and say, "hey, the painter is heading out tomorrow/the next day/whatever, can you confirm the color". Or, as in some cases, if they'd look at the effing drawings! Point is, not an emergency. An inconvenience caused by lack of forethought.

the sideburns are album-specific (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 30 June 2009 04:42 (fourteen years ago) link

worse then asaping every email is marking your every message HIGH PRIORITY! in outlook.

Argh I also hate it when that thing pops up saying "the sender wishes you to confim receipt of this email". I always hit "ignore".

bro down syndrome (Trayce), Tuesday, 30 June 2009 04:56 (fourteen years ago) link

i hate when someone sits on a issue for 3 months and then makes a one-line comment and re-assigns it to you as mega-urgent. (usually happens when you're already busy doing other mega-urgent things)

koogs, Tuesday, 30 June 2009 08:43 (fourteen years ago) link

you know communication is bad in a workplace when someone tells you to IM this guy to tell him you're picking up a certain task.. and you're like.. you mean the guy who's sitting in the same room with you?? (and no one else is in this room at the moment)

hate the players, don't hate the game (daria-g), Tuesday, 30 June 2009 12:29 (fourteen years ago) link

daria, I get 'oh can you call the manager's cell phone to tell her to call me?' phone calls from people who have her number.

tokyo rosemary, Tuesday, 30 June 2009 14:09 (fourteen years ago) link

i hate when someone sits on a issue for 3 months and then makes a one-line comment and re-assigns it to you as mega-urgent.

this is every client ever (except the one time i had an ilxor client - who was awesome). everything is really really urgent and they need it asap - you drop everything, get it to them and they sit on it for weeks, loose it and then they give you their pile of comments/revisions the morning it's due. usually accompanied by an inflammatory comment like "this is a priority and we need it yesterday. those changes shouldn't take too long." (they will)

The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Tuesday, 30 June 2009 14:11 (fourteen years ago) link

that happened to me all the time at my previous job. always from people who knew nothing about the technical side of the work, yet were happy to make assumptions about it.. "oh these changes shouldn't be hard, this shouldn't take long." BULLSHIT. my boss even did that and he should've known better, but then, getting the work done *well* was never a priority with him.

actually this happens every now and then at my current gig, where clearly someone has been working on a project for at least a couple days, sends me an email saying "can you photoshop this thing," and if I don't turn it around in 20-30 minutes they show up or IM or both like "hey what is the status, what is the status, can you tell me the status, I need that ASAP." gaah. can you not TELL me it's urgent in the first place, or maybe think of asking earlier, when I'm not in the middle of the busiest part of the morning?

hate the players, don't hate the game (daria-g), Tuesday, 30 June 2009 17:54 (fourteen years ago) link

you're a photoshop slave too?

The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Wednesday, 1 July 2009 16:33 (fourteen years ago) link

TS: Photoshop slaves vs. AutoCAD monkeys

the sideburns are album-specific (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 1 July 2009 16:38 (fourteen years ago) link

"we don't have none"
"we can't do nothing"
"we don't have them nowhere"

ARGHHH

tokyo rosemary, Thursday, 2 July 2009 00:09 (fourteen years ago) link

"Oh yeah I seen that movie."

franny glass, Thursday, 2 July 2009 01:36 (fourteen years ago) link

xpost - not exactly, i just happen to know how to use the photoshop & the programmers don't, so if they need something for a site they'll ask me to do it. it's not often. the recent instance i was utterly infuriated because i'd explained precisely what happened (slight delay due to a bunch of urgent things happening at once!) but the person didn't bother to listen & then had to get someone else to tell me this "we just want to make sure we understand and are all on the same page here" crap.

how to let things like that go? they make me SO ANGRY - when you don't actually fuck something up & the response you get from a director is this condescending "let's all make sure we understand" implying that you did. (follow this up by saying "don't get defensive" and i might actually break something.)

CAR CHASE!!!!! (daria-g), Thursday, 2 July 2009 01:50 (fourteen years ago) link

DO NOT SNEAK UP BEHIND ME AND THEN JUST STAND THERE SAYING NOTHING FOR FUCK KNOWS HOW LONG AND THEN SAY "HELLO" AND SCARE THE SHIT OUT OF ME.

I hate it when people do that! Come up, grab my attention. Don't waft over like a fart and stand there saying nothing! You're creeping me OUT.

bro down syndrome (Trayce), Monday, 6 July 2009 03:55 (fourteen years ago) link

silent but deadly

throbbing dikes (sic), Monday, 6 July 2009 07:02 (fourteen years ago) link

Ha Trayce I have someone like that here too, very creepy and annoying even when i see him do it to other people.

on another note, had meeting this morning and been informed close colleague was fired on Friday. Can't believe how much it's shook me, and suddenly feel very vunerable in regards to employment.

Great Scott! It's Molecular Man. (Ste), Monday, 6 July 2009 11:40 (fourteen years ago) link

gonna start leaving this thread open and in full view whenever i leave my desk

^prizes the praise of the media, and the Europeans (will), Monday, 6 July 2009 13:47 (fourteen years ago) link

Tips on how to fire someone? God, I hate doing this. Or watching it happen. (My mum will, hopefully, do the firing.)

Sookeh, I vant to suck your titties (stevienixed), Monday, 6 July 2009 13:54 (fourteen years ago) link

"We think you're ready for a solo career."

Beanbag the Gardener (WmC), Monday, 6 July 2009 14:00 (fourteen years ago) link

i hate *getting* fired.

The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Monday, 6 July 2009 14:30 (fourteen years ago) link

be blunt, honest, apologetic and make sure they're able to ask any questions and say what they need to say. be fair and give them space to get their head together and to get what they need.

an average room of dentists (forksclovetofu), Monday, 6 July 2009 15:15 (fourteen years ago) link

Aye if they're being fired for a reason, perhaps lay out why (diplomatically of course). I know I'd want to know where I'd gone wrong so I could make amends!

bro down syndrome (Trayce), Monday, 6 July 2009 22:55 (fourteen years ago) link

Just signed my contract for another 3 years of work this morning, after a hairy period when we wondered whether we'd have our government funding taken away. Very relieved. I've only ever left one job voluntarily--every other time I've been fired, made redundant or a contract has run out.

Great Expectorations (James Morrison), Monday, 6 July 2009 23:12 (fourteen years ago) link

OK wow. One of my workmates just ambled in to work, at 11.15am (we are meant to start at 8.30-9am). When the support team leader said in exasperation "can you at least tell me when you'll be late and when you will be in so I know" (shes stuck on her own today) he has the gall to say "look I cant adjust my sleeping patterns right now, and the cricket is on so I'm up late, OK?!"

WTF dude. Shit'd get you fired in my last job. Wanker.

lolsbury hill (Trayce), Thursday, 9 July 2009 01:18 (fourteen years ago) link

did he really say "the cricket"

nice babies finnish blast (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 9 July 2009 01:20 (fourteen years ago) link

wow Trayce, that's bad. people like that eventually get their just desserts I'm sure.

Great Scott! It's Molecular Man. (Ste), Thursday, 9 July 2009 01:33 (fourteen years ago) link

"Okay, I've acknowledged your opinion Sean, but I don't think you're being really considerate of my feelings"

The guy my boss recently hired to directly supervise me, arguing with my boss about some shit that's completely set in stone since way before he got here. If you ignore my proofreading comments, yes, expect Sean to ignore your feelings, dick.

kingkongvsgodzilla, Thursday, 9 July 2009 01:36 (fourteen years ago) link

did he really say "the cricket"

Yes. Why, is this confusing?

lolsbury hill (Trayce), Thursday, 9 July 2009 01:46 (fourteen years ago) link

i dont people say im going to watch "the basketball" or "the football" over here

I wish I was the royal trux (sunny successor), Thursday, 9 July 2009 02:46 (fourteen years ago) link

i KNOW people don't say that over here

nice babies finnish blast (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 9 July 2009 02:52 (fourteen years ago) link

"I'm going to watch the based balls"

nice babies finnish blast (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 9 July 2009 02:52 (fourteen years ago) link

Plenty of people here say "the footy" and "the cricket"!

lolsbury hill (Trayce), Thursday, 9 July 2009 02:59 (fourteen years ago) link

But you wouldnt say "the basketball".

You would say "the tennis".

I dont effin know why.

lolsbury hill (Trayce), Thursday, 9 July 2009 02:59 (fourteen years ago) link

But thank you for schooling me on my own version of english, WWG.

lolsbury hill (Trayce), Thursday, 9 July 2009 03:00 (fourteen years ago) link

people should start calling it cricky

c.c. crabcock (electricsound), Thursday, 9 July 2009 03:00 (fourteen years ago) link

I fear I have done so in the past :/

lolsbury hill (Trayce), Thursday, 9 July 2009 03:02 (fourteen years ago) link

"The tennis" etc works in the UK too.
"In my free time I watch football" (in general)
"I'm going home to watch the football" (a specific match or tournament, which it is assumed the listener will already be aware of)

So I think the reason "the basketball" doesn't work but "the tennis/football/cricket/rugby" does is because people are expected to be aware of the current major event in those sports, know about the one big match that's on the major TV channels or in every sports pub that day etc. (You might also use it for seeing the big local match in person.) Er, maybe.

What kind of guy does not even make up some kind of transport-related mishap, major family illness or sudden 8am plumbing disaster, is what I want to know?

a passing spacecadet, Thursday, 9 July 2009 08:42 (fourteen years ago) link

the dude next to me has done nothing but cough his fucking head off all week. FUCK OFF HOME YOU SICK BASTARD

Great Scott! It's Molecular Man. (Ste), Thursday, 9 July 2009 12:53 (fourteen years ago) link

I am in awe of Trayce's workmate. I long for the kind of job security where I can be that audaciously honest about my extracurricular activities.

N1ck (Upt0eleven), Thursday, 9 July 2009 13:11 (fourteen years ago) link

http://www.futurama-area.de/LiH/OComics/16.gif

caek, Thursday, 9 July 2009 13:14 (fourteen years ago) link

i need to confess something.

The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Thursday, 9 July 2009 14:42 (fourteen years ago) link

No one says "the" ANY sport over here, I'm pretty sure. I don't even really follow any major sports and yet it just seems profoundly un-American somehow. We leave that kind of thing to the poncey poms.

But not someone who should be dead anyway (Laurel), Thursday, 9 July 2009 14:49 (fourteen years ago) link

we have speakers hooked up to an old mac in the studio i work in, usually plays music most of the day.

my boss insists on playing all sorts of awful (or mediocre) stuff over and over AND OVER. the two people with similar tastes to me were both let go a few months back - so anything i put on gets killed pretty quickly. sometimes this is followed by an energetic exchange of musical opinions.

yesterday a coworker outside the studio started a bit of a curfufel about the (awful) music. sensing the opportunity i came in last night and hid the speakers. there has now been an all-staff demanding the damned thing be returned! but i am saying nothing and enjoying the silence!

xpost

The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Thursday, 9 July 2009 14:49 (fourteen years ago) link

this is actually really awesome.

The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Thursday, 9 July 2009 14:50 (fourteen years ago) link

xxp And pineapple up-side-down-land, apparently.

But not someone who should be dead anyway (Laurel), Thursday, 9 July 2009 14:50 (fourteen years ago) link

(there's been no finger pointing as of yet either)
xpost

The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Thursday, 9 July 2009 14:50 (fourteen years ago) link

I wish we could do that here, with the speaker hiding! Impressive. Our boss insists on a crappy station that no one else in the office can even stand. We try switching it or plugging in an iPod when he's gone, but upon his return it is to be immediately flipped back to his preferred station. No democracy here. I've thought many times about snipping all the wires.

the sideburns are album-specific (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 9 July 2009 14:53 (fourteen years ago) link

this is awesome. i have her on my msn and i'm having a blast watching what senseless music she's not subjecting me to!

The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Thursday, 9 July 2009 15:15 (fourteen years ago) link

Just cross some wires, jon, so that next time he turns it on, it sparks and shorts out. Has the double advantages of stopping the music AND making him think maybe he did something to it by keeping it on all day, every day. Perhaps will make him more cautious in future. Bonus points for setting off a fire alarm and having to evacuate the office.

But not someone who should be dead anyway (Laurel), Thursday, 9 July 2009 15:18 (fourteen years ago) link

IT have just rung a colleague's extension to ask him what extension he's on.

a tiny, faltering megaphone (grimly fiendish), Monday, 13 July 2009 11:55 (fourteen years ago) link

that's allowable- this weekend i texted my phone from the net to discover it was in my pocket.

51 logins to SB Jol (darraghmac), Monday, 13 July 2009 11:56 (fourteen years ago) link

Well, hes on vacation for a week and half now, so we have a reprieve, but I'll have to look into that for his return, Laurel.

the sideburns are album-specific (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 13 July 2009 12:55 (fourteen years ago) link

"When he was in his twenties, he was a great character actor. Now he's just a hack. There's no development or sense in what he does."
^ passing judgement on johnny depp once and for all.

PLEASE SIT TIGHT WHILE WE MAKE NEW ARRANGEMENTS (forksclovetofu), Monday, 20 July 2009 21:39 (fourteen years ago) link

Stop replying to my emails with "good girl!".

I AM NOT A PUPPY.

seagulls are assholes (Trayce), Tuesday, 21 July 2009 03:39 (fourteen years ago) link

HA AHAHAHHAAH AHAAAA

The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Tuesday, 21 July 2009 03:45 (fourteen years ago) link

He's done it TWICE this week. The guy is half my age! :/

seagulls are assholes (Trayce), Tuesday, 21 July 2009 03:46 (fourteen years ago) link

Well ok not literally.

seagulls are assholes (Trayce), Tuesday, 21 July 2009 03:46 (fourteen years ago) link

"I've really wanted to look up the recipe for semtex on the internet for a while now, but you know. They flag you. I suppose I could go to an internet cafe. Most internet cafes are located in suburban areas with cameras and if you anonymously log in they could catch you on tape. Unless you came in with a disguise..."
^this is verbatim, started typing as soon as he started talking

im a fucking unicorn you douchebags (forksclovetofu), Monday, 27 July 2009 19:50 (fourteen years ago) link

I have a question! I was working late and was the only person in an area of maybe six cubicles, and some woman came down the hall and was having a long frivolous personal-call cell conversation in the vicinity. I spent a while shifting and coughing and tapping my pencil to let her know someone was around, but she hung around and kept talking for five minutes or so. My question: this is just weird and rude, right, to hang around near someone else's work area yakking on a cell phone? You expect people to have personal conversations at their own desks, okay, but not like gratuitous chit-chat in your area when it's otherwise dead silent.

nabisco, Monday, 27 July 2009 19:55 (fourteen years ago) link

Could she see you?

Four-TEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEN! (HI DERE), Monday, 27 July 2009 19:56 (fourteen years ago) link

She could not, hence the elaborate coughing fit and chair-squeaking (which, if she could hear well enough to use a phone, she definitely heard)

nabisco, Monday, 27 July 2009 19:59 (fourteen years ago) link

Yeah actually in this case you are the annoying co-worker for being passive-aggressive instead of popping your head around the corner and saying, "Sorry, I don't mean to be rude but I can't concentrate on this because of your conversation; I hate to be 'that guy' but could you, you know, shut the fuck up?"

Four-TEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEN! (HI DERE), Monday, 27 July 2009 20:01 (fourteen years ago) link

(modify as appropriate for yr workspace)

Four-TEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEN! (HI DERE), Monday, 27 July 2009 20:01 (fourteen years ago) link

just get up and go to the bathroom/water cooler? she would probably be gone by the time you get off, and you have dealt with yr fluids. everybody wins.

caek, Monday, 27 July 2009 20:05 (fourteen years ago) link

oh god

"get back", not "get off"

caek, Monday, 27 July 2009 20:05 (fourteen years ago) link

nope sorry, that correction is not accepted

Four-TEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEN! (HI DERE), Monday, 27 July 2009 20:06 (fourteen years ago) link

public masturbation is the obvious solution here--glad someone said it!

Mr. Que, Monday, 27 July 2009 20:06 (fourteen years ago) link

just barely stopped myself from changing username to "you have dealt with yr fluids. everybody wins."

im a fucking unicorn you douchebags (forksclovetofu), Monday, 27 July 2009 20:06 (fourteen years ago) link

kinda odd to jack it at the water cooler even if the office is empty tho

Four-TEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEN! (HI DERE), Monday, 27 July 2009 20:06 (fourteen years ago) link

it's a public gathering place of the office, much like a town square

Mr. Que, Monday, 27 July 2009 20:07 (fourteen years ago) link

everybody wins

caek, Monday, 27 July 2009 20:07 (fourteen years ago) link

a place to see and be seen

Mr. Que, Monday, 27 July 2009 20:07 (fourteen years ago) link

oh, I didn't have any intense need for her to leave, or anything, I probably just posted to ILX until she was done or whatever, I just think it's maybe weird and rude to have a whole personal conversation over by other people's desks when you're aware they're still there

nabisco, Monday, 27 July 2009 20:08 (fourteen years ago) link

she probably wasn't aware that your were there, though

Mr. Que, Monday, 27 July 2009 20:08 (fourteen years ago) link

the initial coughing totally wasn't passive-aggressive, incidentally, I was mostly just trying to let her know someone was there cause I felt awkward about hearing her personal conversation without her being aware of my presence!

nabisco, Monday, 27 July 2009 20:09 (fourteen years ago) link

blarg, she totally knew I was there, I'm like typing and moving around and coughing

nabisco, Monday, 27 July 2009 20:11 (fourteen years ago) link

a) sorry--d@n is right the coughing is passive aggressive

b) when i'm on the phone with someone, i'm a lot less aware of my surroundings, and i don't always hear stuff going on. she probably didn't hear you.

c) why didn't you just ask her to go somewhere else?

Mr. Que, Monday, 27 July 2009 20:12 (fourteen years ago) link

if you'd gotten up and started masturbating, she would have really known you were there (good looking out, caek)

Four-TEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEN! (HI DERE), Monday, 27 July 2009 20:13 (fourteen years ago) link

she probably never would have spoken on the phone again, ever

Mr. Que, Monday, 27 July 2009 20:13 (fourteen years ago) link

also lol when did you turn into Liz Lemon?????? hottt

Four-TEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEN! (HI DERE), Monday, 27 July 2009 20:14 (fourteen years ago) link

i know what you mean nabisco, i'm sensitive to sounds and stuff too, where i work--but if it's something that only goes on for five minutes, i figure no big whoop. if it went on longer than that though, i would say something. if i was really busy, though, i would say something right away

Mr. Que, Monday, 27 July 2009 20:15 (fourteen years ago) link

btw your conundrum is exactly why I wear headphones 24/7

Four-TEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEN! (HI DERE), Monday, 27 July 2009 20:17 (fourteen years ago) link

c) why didn't you just ask her to go somewhere else?

cuz I didn't actually care and just thought it was weird and rude? I think the tenor of this complaint is getting lost

nabisco, Monday, 27 July 2009 20:19 (fourteen years ago) link

like y'all are imagining me as all huffy and indignant whereas in fact I was just going "seriously? you're just gonna stand over there and have a whole phone conversation? *ahem ahem* you realize there's someone over here, right?"

nabisco, Monday, 27 July 2009 20:20 (fourteen years ago) link

...explain the difference again.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 27 July 2009 20:21 (fourteen years ago) link

??

nabisco, Monday, 27 July 2009 20:23 (fourteen years ago) link

cuz I didn't actually care and just thought it was weird and rude?

i think you do care, and like i said, i have the same complaint sometimes. and you totally should care, she was being annoying, but as d@n said upthread, you gotta tell her she's annoying you, otherwise you're coming off. . . as huffy.

Mr. Que, Monday, 27 July 2009 20:25 (fourteen years ago) link

like tapping your pencil and squeaking your chair is textbook passive aggression 101

Mr. Que, Monday, 27 July 2009 20:25 (fourteen years ago) link

Mr. Que it's great that after all this time together on ILX you know how much I care about different things at work

Umm you guys are seriously weird, though: I would only have told her it was annoying if I were annoyed and wanted her to leave; I didn't really care that much so I didn't -- I just found it sorta weird and then later asked weirdos on the internet if they thought it was weird and rude. The tapping and coughing wasn't intended to say "go away," it was intended to say "just so you know, there's still someone over here, so you probably don't want to steer your conversation in the direction of your sex life or anything, it'll be embarrassing for both of us"

nabisco, Monday, 27 July 2009 20:28 (fourteen years ago) link

I mean if I am taking a personal call someplace I think is empty, I would 100% appreciate anyone in the area doing a polite little throat-clear or chair-shift to let me know I am not alone

nabisco, Monday, 27 July 2009 20:29 (fourteen years ago) link

The tapping and coughing wasn't intended to say "go away," it was intended to say "just so you know, there's still someone over here, so you probably don't want to steer your conversation in the direction of your sex life or anything, it'll be embarrassing for both of us"

wtf dude, that's when you start a thread and type out lurid details combined with blatant lies so we can all lol

Four-TEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEN! (HI DERE), Monday, 27 July 2009 20:30 (fourteen years ago) link

(I think people are assuming that you found this annoying because you posted it on "Let's bitch about our stupid, annoying co-workers". This is just a hunch, though.)

Four-TEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEN! (HI DERE), Monday, 27 July 2009 20:31 (fourteen years ago) link

The tapping and coughing wasn't intended to say "go away," it was intended to say "just so you know, there's still someone over here, so you probably don't want to steer your conversation in the direction of your sex life or anything, it'll be embarrassing for both of us"

just think how much MORE awkward this would have been if you were masturbating

Mr. Que, Monday, 27 July 2009 20:31 (fourteen years ago) link

also d@n OTM--you left some crucial details out. and i think we all agree with you that it's weird and annoying

Mr. Que, Monday, 27 July 2009 20:32 (fourteen years ago) link

Ach, I'm totally with Nabisco on this one. I don't think his coughing was necessarily passive-aggressive; similarly, I think his colleague's behaviour was a little thoughtless (though it is easy to stop paying any attention to your surroundings when you're on the phone: literally thoughtless, then, rather than pejoratively so?)

grimly fiendish, Monday, 27 July 2009 20:34 (fourteen years ago) link

Actually my "start a thread, wtf" post reminds me that a dude called into the morning show I listen to to brag about how he had to break up with his girlfriend today because he accidentally slept with her twin sister on Friday and then intentionally slept with her mother on Saturday. It was a total lie but still completely compelling listening.

Four-TEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEN! (HI DERE), Monday, 27 July 2009 20:35 (fourteen years ago) link

haha I know, it doesn't rise to some of the gold on this thread, I just wanted a place to ask if it was as weird as I thought it was :(

I'm gonna continue to assume I'm not alone, though, in terms of having stuff happen in life that's not quite annoying enough to say anything about at the time, but just annoying enough to complain about on ILX

nabisco, Monday, 27 July 2009 20:37 (fourteen years ago) link

xp: (that has nothing to do with co-workers; I did overhear one of my employees yelling at his mom about how she should have actually filled out some paperwork if she expected to tap into Medicare to pay for her medical expenses and how it was now her own damn fault that she is getting massive bills that he is now responsible for since he's taking care of her, that was fun)

Four-TEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEN! (HI DERE), Monday, 27 July 2009 20:38 (fourteen years ago) link

meanwhile, my co-workers are openly musing about the best way to research making plastic explosives and nobody finds that even mildly odd

im a fucking unicorn you douchebags (forksclovetofu), Monday, 27 July 2009 20:59 (fourteen years ago) link

"so, I saw another UFO last night"

tokyo rosemary, Tuesday, 28 July 2009 00:22 (fourteen years ago) link

honestly not sure why you were so concerned abt alerting her to your presence--if she is oblivious enough to wander around the office having a personal convo than i wouldn't really feel bad about overhearing her.

also instead of coughing or tapping you could have just stood up and stretched or paced up and down the aisle a couple of times, which i do all the time.

i get that she wasn't "annoying" you but still yr reaction confuses me.

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 28 July 2009 00:32 (fourteen years ago) link

I am complex and full of mystery, I guess

nabisco, Tuesday, 28 July 2009 00:33 (fourteen years ago) link

as an ilx poster you were already in that league

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 28 July 2009 00:37 (fourteen years ago) link

as we all are

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 28 July 2009 00:37 (fourteen years ago) link

I totally get what Nabisco is saying, is it that unclear to other people? No wonder this board gets such clusterfuck threads sometimes.

seagulls are assholes (Trayce), Tuesday, 28 July 2009 00:44 (fourteen years ago) link

I get what he's saying, it's just weird. Once a year or so nabisco is like that. Last year it was the Master and Commander thread.

caek, Tuesday, 28 July 2009 00:51 (fourteen years ago) link

It's like his left eyebrow went up 3 mm, and he's all weirded out that everybody else's went up 4 mm.

Beanbag the Gardener (WmC), Tuesday, 28 July 2009 00:57 (fourteen years ago) link

I agree that letting someone know you are there is polite and not p-a

Hillary had Everest in his veins (sunny successor), Tuesday, 28 July 2009 17:36 (fourteen years ago) link

I went through something similar yesterday when I was sitting there, minding my own business, when two co-workers started to loudly talk about some staff changes and marketing strategies basically right in my ear.

http://tinyurl.com/ggggst (Pleasant Plains), Tuesday, 28 July 2009 17:44 (fourteen years ago) link

But I was pretty much stuck since Hormel dinner and morning coffee were taking their toll on me.

http://tinyurl.com/ggggst (Pleasant Plains), Tuesday, 28 July 2009 17:45 (fourteen years ago) link

having a co-worker scapegoat the rest of my dept to our superior by saying that we haven't given him all the data he needs = fuck u liar, watch me fwd this 3-wk old email in which you were asked if you had everything you needed to finish the gd project -- which you never bothered to respond to

there is no there there (elmo argonaut), Tuesday, 28 July 2009 17:46 (fourteen years ago) link

I mean if I am taking a personal call someplace I think is empty, I would 100% appreciate anyone in the area doing a polite little throat-clear or chair-shift to let me know I am not alone

I think it wld be appropriate to play Michael Jackson's "You are Not Alone."

bad-boy (sic) cartographer (actually a girl) (called) (not named) (Abbott), Tuesday, 28 July 2009 17:47 (fourteen years ago) link

familiar behavior from this guy -- totally maddening

there is no there there (elmo argonaut), Tuesday, 28 July 2009 17:47 (fourteen years ago) link

<3 abbott

Mr. Que, Tuesday, 28 July 2009 17:48 (fourteen years ago) link

addendum to Abbott's suggestion: walk in slow motion toward the offending person while the song is playing

im a fucking unicorn you douchebags (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 28 July 2009 18:51 (fourteen years ago) link

some of you will be glad to know that just now, as it's getting late and a bit empty in the office and there didn't seem to be anyone around, I started listening to music very quietly, and after about forty-five seconds I heard a slight cough from an office across the way, and then shortly after that I turned the music off.

nabisco, Monday, 3 August 2009 23:46 (fourteen years ago) link

We have an espresso machine in our breakroom. Now, I know making espresso cofee can be tricky, but with this machine you srsly cannot go wrong - it has 3 buttons for 3 levels/sizes of coffee to pour out. Thats it.

The *sysadmin* of all people stood in front of it and whined that he didn't know how to use it to make a coffee. OK, somewhat fair - the levels buttons arent obvious and theres 3 other buttons that do the milk froth and such. So that was explained to him.

So he pours a large into his mug. Then he stares at it, and says "now what do I do?"

I mean, WTF? Drink it maybe, you A-grade ditz?

seagulls are assholes (Trayce), Tuesday, 4 August 2009 03:52 (fourteen years ago) link

He was honestly saying shit like "why is there hardly any in here?" and "what do I do now, put milk in?", it was like he'd never had a coffee before in his life.

seagulls are assholes (Trayce), Tuesday, 4 August 2009 03:53 (fourteen years ago) link

he pours a large and then complains that there's hardly any in there? how big is his fucken mug??

"woah man, flügelhorn" (haitch), Tuesday, 4 August 2009 03:57 (fourteen years ago) link

A "large" espresso is a small cup o' Joe. I think I had the same reaction on my first espresso.

nickn, Tuesday, 4 August 2009 04:02 (fourteen years ago) link

Well TBF it was a rlly big coffee mug, and being an espresso machine even a large is still only about 1/3 of the total volume. Tried to explain to him that thats normal, and lattes usually have the rest as just milk, he still looked at me like I was speaking martian.

seagulls are assholes (Trayce), Tuesday, 4 August 2009 04:03 (fourteen years ago) link

And haitch you shuld know this things ;P

seagulls are assholes (Trayce), Tuesday, 4 August 2009 04:04 (fourteen years ago) link

try speaking to him in perl next time

bnw, Tuesday, 4 August 2009 04:06 (fourteen years ago) link

I suspect that might be all he understands.

seagulls are assholes (Trayce), Tuesday, 4 August 2009 04:12 (fourteen years ago) link

oh god i've never made a proper coffee in my life, i leave that to the experts! working in carlton spoils you a bit, it must be said.

"woah man, flügelhorn" (haitch), Tuesday, 4 August 2009 04:13 (fourteen years ago) link

Haven't you ever watched a barista do his thang, though? Maybe I'm just curious, being a cookery type.

seagulls are assholes (Trayce), Tuesday, 4 August 2009 04:14 (fourteen years ago) link

oh i have a look but it goes in one eye and out the... hang on i've picked the wrong analogy. i just watch as an admirer rather than take mental notes!

"woah man, flügelhorn" (haitch), Tuesday, 4 August 2009 04:20 (fourteen years ago) link

Now I want a coffee :(

seagulls are assholes (Trayce), Tuesday, 4 August 2009 04:23 (fourteen years ago) link

i could do with a tea actually.

haha just had a look up at my long-ago moaning at the old job. everyone here is lovely, nothing to complain about really!

"woah man, flügelhorn" (haitch), Tuesday, 4 August 2009 04:27 (fourteen years ago) link

He was honestly saying shit like "why is there hardly any in here?" and "what do I do now, put milk in?", it was like he'd never had a coffee before in his life.

― seagulls are assholes (Trayce), Monday, August 3, 2009 10:53 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

i would probably be saying the same thing but then ive never had a coffee before

Hillary had Everest in his veins (sunny successor), Tuesday, 4 August 2009 13:47 (fourteen years ago) link

The *sysadmin* of all people stood in front of it and whined that he didn't know how to use it to make a coffee. OK, somewhat fair - the levels buttons arent obvious and theres 3 other buttons that do the milk froth and such. So that was explained to him.

Awwwwww. (I completely know what this feels like. It's like the more servers you configure or whatever the more it pushes basic consumer electronics knowledge out of your head.)

suggest banh mi (fields of salmon), Tuesday, 4 August 2009 14:21 (fourteen years ago) link

i would probably be saying the same thing but then ive never had a coffee before

― Hillary had Everest in his veins (sunny successor), Tuesday, August 4, 2009 8:47 AM Bookmark

Sunny one time offered to pour me a coffee. It was a very thoughtful gesture on her part since she hates coffee, the smell of it and everything.

She's in the kitchen for awhile and finally says, "Does it always take this long to pour out?" I don't know what she's talking about. "Does it have to drip like this into the mug?"

Turns out, she wasn't pushing the button on the lid down with her thumb, the button that acts as a stopper for the pitcher. I would have laughed in her face had the whole gesture not been such a genuine one.

http://tinyurl.com/bapppp (Pleasant Plains), Tuesday, 4 August 2009 18:11 (fourteen years ago) link

"Opposable thumbs are a signature feature of the primate family, and played a large role in the ancient humans inventing and using tools."

bnw, Tuesday, 4 August 2009 19:21 (fourteen years ago) link

Nice work with the quotes. Wouldn't want to think that you were trying to pass that off as your own.

http://tinyurl.com/bapppp (Pleasant Plains), Tuesday, 4 August 2009 19:54 (fourteen years ago) link

he's not really annoying, maybe not stupid, but there's this gloomy eeyore type who's been here for several months stalking sullenly around the office, looking like he'd rather be anywhere else, refusing eye contact. i came upon him the other day leaning against a wall in the hallway, staring angrily at closed door (which is a now-empty office being used as storage.) he's kind of creeping me out, tbh.

omar little, Tuesday, 4 August 2009 20:03 (fourteen years ago) link

If she asks me if I would like a slice of an apple one more time I am going to take the apple slices and shove them down her happy little throat.

Sunny River, Tuesday, 4 August 2009 21:04 (fourteen years ago) link

If you share an office space with another person, and you are going to use the phone in said shared office space to make a personal phone call, at least try not to talk AT THE TOP OF YOUR FUCKING VOICE. alskdjfa;lksdjf;alksdjfal;ksdjf

she is writing about love (Jenny), Wednesday, 5 August 2009 15:38 (fourteen years ago) link

i used to have that once. what i did is called her extension a few times while she was on the phone - when it went to voicemail i'd hang up after a second. when she'd get off the phone and notice she'd had a few hang-ups she'd get all worried that she'd missed an important call. after a few times the 30 minute calls with her mother/sister stopped! :D
the calls didn't actually bother me - i just thought it was funny.

The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Wednesday, 5 August 2009 15:52 (fourteen years ago) link

She only uses her outside voice on calls to certain family members, so in addition to being distracted by her yelling into the phone, I also get a heaping helping of unintentional TMI. She's generally very aware of the drawbacks of shared space, and thus normally very considerate, but she just has this one blind (perhaps deaf) spot that drives me crazy, because I can't work when somebody is yelling about a newphew's potty training progress eight feet away from me.

she is writing about love (Jenny), Wednesday, 5 August 2009 16:03 (fourteen years ago) link

Maybe those family members yell at her over the phone, or that newphew is in the background banging pot lids together or something. Still, you are totally right, and ew.

Like most people my age, I am 33 (Laurel), Wednesday, 5 August 2009 16:54 (fourteen years ago) link

Jenny you should start making comments about whatever she's telling her mother, sotto voce, and if she stops and says "excuse me? this is private" you can act all suprised and say "o rly cos your loud rambling suggested otherwise".

My boss say I can't not do this (Trayce), Thursday, 6 August 2009 06:09 (fourteen years ago) link

"Z-Pack? Antibiotics? You should NOT take that, it's going to destroy your immune system. When I was twelve, I had a terrible overwhelming flu that left me bedridden for a week. I refused to take medicine, because I don't trust it. Because of that, my body produces such powerful antibodies that I've never been sick since."

BOO LIAR BEN KONOP BOO BAD BOO BEN KONOP BOO (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 13 August 2009 16:53 (fourteen years ago) link

girl who says "evidently" and "literally" all the time and loves Harry Potter and Twilight. Getting on my nerves a bit.

De Mysteriis Dom Passantino (jim), Friday, 14 August 2009 18:08 (fourteen years ago) link

also she has thousands of stories of situations she has been in where someone has acted insanely mean, aggressive, unreasonable, duplicitious towards her that always leave me thinking that she's left out the bit where she was a total prick thus bringing about said treatment.

De Mysteriis Dom Passantino (jim), Friday, 14 August 2009 18:10 (fourteen years ago) link

Woman has been covering for someone who's on leave and has phoned up several times every day this week saying "SINCE you haven't put this data in the shared folder like you were meant to, please spend the next 15 minutes trying to look things up while still holding the phone and listening to me babble, and then read them out to me" and then wondering why I haven't managed to do the other tasks she's set for me.

So I was idly wondering how come the guy on leave got his job done without phoning me ever, and whaddyaknow, I have put all the data on the shared drive! In a fairly obvious location! It's just I'd been slack about putting something else up there so I just assumed she was right and didn't tell her to go and look ;_;

a passing spacecadet, Friday, 14 August 2009 18:25 (fourteen years ago) link

someone added "tigger and pooh friendly tails" and "eminem: the way i am" to my amazon shopping cart

in excelsis ayo (roxymuzak), Sunday, 23 August 2009 04:21 (fourteen years ago) link

Definitely you before unexplained and unnoticed blackout.

bamcquern, Sunday, 23 August 2009 19:33 (fourteen years ago) link

"isn't it ironic that america's supposed to be the land of the free, but europe has so much more freedom than us? I blame the puritans."
"I definitely wouldn't want to live in England though. They have so many rules. They probably have a rule against breathing."

sample rants or ?BURNS?. (forksclovetofu), Monday, 24 August 2009 18:57 (fourteen years ago) link

That was the same person saying both those things?

Hugh Manatee (WmC), Monday, 24 August 2009 19:16 (fourteen years ago) link

yep.

sample rants or ?BURNS?. (forksclovetofu), Monday, 24 August 2009 19:32 (fourteen years ago) link

Thinking of petitioning MPs to instate a law that non-technical staff replying to a long technical explanation with "well I don't see why you can't just do it anyway", and then saying it AGAIN when one of the many reasons why not is repeated in different terms, should be dismissed on the spot.

Also, thanks for appointing a 20-year-old kid who doesn't know any programming languages to a programming role on the same salary as me, and then talking him up as being about to turn any minute into the great messiah of the project. Motivational!

Fuck. Really fucking had it.

a passing spacecadet, Friday, 28 August 2009 11:25 (fourteen years ago) link

should be dismissed on the spot.

I was hoping that sentence was going to end "should be hung drawn and quartered", but then I was working in IT support in what feels now like the middle ages.

20-year-old kid

...will fuck up big style shortly, given enough rope, etc..

the visible spectrum is rainbows (snoball), Friday, 28 August 2009 11:29 (fourteen years ago) link

Sounds like an equal opportunity case, r spacecadet.

lacoste intolerant (suzy), Friday, 28 August 2009 11:30 (fourteen years ago) link

the great messiah of the project

Meaning that he'll be crucified for everyone else's sins?

the visible spectrum is rainbows (snoball), Friday, 28 August 2009 11:56 (fourteen years ago) link

> Also, thanks for appointing a 20-year-old kid who doesn't know any programming languages to a programming role on the same salary as me

does he have the same surname as the boss?

koogs, Friday, 28 August 2009 12:39 (fourteen years ago) link

Workmate at the next desk is playing a John Mayer cover of "Free Falling"

>_<

Kill me pls.

our soldiers die like chickens day by day (Trayce), Monday, 7 September 2009 00:17 (fourteen years ago) link

An email made the rounds today whining about how there were spiderwebs outside the window and someone needed to "take care of them" IMMEDIATELY because they were "scary". The people participating in this email discussion were serious.

O(Suggest/Ban)AMA (Z S), Wednesday, 16 September 2009 00:45 (fourteen years ago) link

on the OUTSIDE of the window.

o_0

Dearth Disco (Trayce), Wednesday, 16 September 2009 00:45 (fourteen years ago) link

The windows, by the way, are on the 5th floor and are sealed shut, so taking care of the spiderwebs OUTSIDE would most likely involve a gigantic ladder outside

O(Suggest/Ban)AMA (Z S), Wednesday, 16 September 2009 00:45 (fourteen years ago) link

your tax dollars at work

O(Suggest/Ban)AMA (Z S), Wednesday, 16 September 2009 00:46 (fourteen years ago) link

Oh I've worked in govt departments, I know all about the morans that can lurk therein :/

Dearth Disco (Trayce), Wednesday, 16 September 2009 00:50 (fourteen years ago) link

A coworker who sits near me has been going on and on to anyone who'll listen (and even those who won't), for at least an hour, about burning a bag of popcorn in the microwave. This is the sad high point of her week, I guess? I'm torn between desperately wanting her to stop talking and a perverse desire to see how long I can get her to latch onto the topic. I'm guessing through the end of the week, easy, if I play my cards right.

I HEART CREEPY MENS (Deric W. Haircare), Wednesday, 16 September 2009 21:35 (fourteen years ago) link

my work from home days (2 days a week) just got taken away. ouchouchouchouch

Hillary had Everest in his veins (sunny successor), Wednesday, 16 September 2009 23:12 (fourteen years ago) link

shit my condolences. don't know what i would do w/out my wfh day.

why did they do it?

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 16 September 2009 23:21 (fourteen years ago) link

Oh man I would love to work from home or work part time... sigh.

Dearth Disco (Trayce), Wednesday, 16 September 2009 23:22 (fourteen years ago) link

My entire career goal is to one day go freelance. Work from home everyday. MM.

I feel bad for you, ss. That must be hard to take.

franny glass, Wednesday, 16 September 2009 23:28 (fourteen years ago) link

our company got taken over at the beginning of the year and i guess they just worked out our campus has a wfh policy. no reasoning except that they just don't like it. im mad but trying to tell myself that going in 5 days a week is what most people do and what i did before this job. its rough when you have a 3 day office week for years and then its taken away though.

Hillary had Everest in his veins (sunny successor), Thursday, 17 September 2009 02:14 (fourteen years ago) link

Today I had a looooong debate with a co-worker where I tried to convince him that the Washington Monument, clearly visible outside the window, was actually called the Washington Monument. He thinks it is called the Obelisk. Seriously. And he won't change his mind.

Near the end, he also stated his belief that Van Jones is/was a " bombthrower", to which I replied "yeah but you think that's called the Obelisk" as I pointed out the window.

O(Suggest/Ban)AMA (Z S), Thursday, 17 September 2009 21:04 (fourteen years ago) link

too much civ will do that to a mind.

The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Friday, 18 September 2009 03:38 (fourteen years ago) link

If you're asking around to borrow a calculator, specify upfront that it is for a conference in Indianapolis that lasts through Tuesday.

kingkongvsgodzilla, Friday, 18 September 2009 17:46 (fourteen years ago) link

ARGH ARGH ARGH ARHG ARGH.

The manager of our call centre is the most STUPID, annoying, ignorant, twunt I have had to deal with in a long time. I have been working for the PAST TWO MONTHS trying to get a report correct for her. Basically, we track All Calls, and then Answered Calls (as a subset of all calls) - and the conversion ratio for both.

So you have:
All calls (X) - Converstion Rate A%
Answered calls (Y) - Conversion Rate B%

We have been having lots of trouble trying to establish a way of correctly tracking Y, so Y has been going up and down the past few months. And yet she seems to be UNABLE TO UNDERSTAND that if Y changes, then B% will also change!

I sent her TWO emails last week explaining why Y has changed. With analysis showing that A isn't changing, so the data is correct, it's just our way of tabulating Y that's wrong.

Today I get an email going WAAAH WAAAAHHH WAAAAAAHHHH CONVERSION RATE B IS ALL WRONG!!!! Like, clearly, NOT having read any of the emails I sent her, or looked at the analysis or ANYTHING. DUH DUH DUH. If B is dependent on Y, and Y changes, then B will also change. What kind of elementary logic is that?

I am going to have to go up there later this week to basically EXPLAIN to her how to use Excel, as if that's not bad enough - do I also have to teach her how to READ FUCKING EMAILS?!?!?!??!! I guess I do.

Like, I understand that this is pretty techy stuff for non-maths-heads, but HOW DOES SHE HAVE HER JOB if she does not understand elementary maths?

I Like Daydreams, I've Had Enough Reality (Masonic Boom), Monday, 28 September 2009 12:41 (fourteen years ago) link

It's just like... if I've sent two emails explaining why something has changed... and then I STILL get an email (cc:d in to all and sundry, like she does, which is another gripe, argh) saying OMG OMG THIS THING HAS CHANGED - LEARN HOW TO READ YOU STUPID FUCKING IDIOT.

I Like Daydreams, I've Had Enough Reality (Masonic Boom), Monday, 28 September 2009 12:43 (fourteen years ago) link

So many office job descriptions should actually read ' you will stare vacantly into space, breathe through your mouth at all times, feign knowledge of your role and surreptitiously fart once an hour into an ergonomic chair.' Does this sound familiar?

pow! right in the kisser (suzy), Monday, 28 September 2009 12:46 (fourteen years ago) link

Ha ha, no - that job description is me about 75% of the time.

This woman is just lacking in basic... I know it would be rich for me to call someone out on social skills, but it's like - everyone else in this place, if you do something for them, they'll email to say thanks, they'll get back to you fairly quickly if there's a problem. This woman, if there's a problem, she will wait a week, say nothing, until you finally try and chase her down, and THEN write an angry email (CC:ing in everyone and their boss) - which advertises nothing except "HI I DID NOT READ THE ORIGINAL EMAIL IN THE FIRST PLACE".

In this case, she IGNORED a really really blatant discrepency BECAUSE IT WAS IN HER DEPARTMENT'S FAVOUR - and resulted in the figures being what she "thought they should be." When the *programmer* pointed out the discrepency (the kind of thing SHE would have known about because she asked the computations to be done that way, I had no idea, as the computation was fairly counter-intuitive) the rates dropped back to normal levels, then she's all OH NOES YOU BE STEALING MY HIGH RATES.

I Like Daydreams, I've Had Enough Reality (Masonic Boom), Monday, 28 September 2009 13:16 (fourteen years ago) link

it's hard to deal with shit like that. i cannot stand snarky all staffs emails or having my superiors cc'd for no reason other than to complain through email inclusion. normally i find it best to respond in kind (as in include everyone the sender did), address the concern (again) and as politely as possible point out why said person is an ignorant pile of useless.

The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Monday, 28 September 2009 15:16 (fourteen years ago) link

The person who would do that to me in the office has been made redundant after 13 years' "service". Boo fucking hoo. Besides, if you are really going to drop a person in it there are other, craftier ways to go over their head (starting with the good old BCC) that get the job done.

pow! right in the kisser (suzy), Monday, 28 September 2009 22:30 (fourteen years ago) link

you can get burnt doing that. i've seen it.

The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Monday, 28 September 2009 23:36 (fourteen years ago) link

So a workmate comes up to me as I'm grabbing my stuff to pop out for lunch, to ask me about an email I'd just sent. So I pause, and in my usual silly way, pull what I assume is a kind of "yeees?" silly "whats up" face.

He almost leaps out of his skin startled, sucks air through his teeth, and flinches backwards, eyeing me in alarm. He continues to stand there going "uh..." and looking terrified, as I, now flustered, stammer "what? What?". He never explains his utterly bizzarre reaction and we continue our conversation.

I mean come on, it wasnt THAT silly a face, jesus. The guy reacts REALLY WEIRDLY to things a LOT. Takes offence and freaks out at the tiniest gesture or misread tone of voice. Its like he's lost all social ability.

Dearth Disco (Trayce), Wednesday, 30 September 2009 04:32 (fourteen years ago) link

there's only one way to settle this.. post wdyll of silly face

electric sound of jim (original version) (electricsound), Wednesday, 30 September 2009 04:34 (fourteen years ago) link

The one from last nights FAP looked horrible enough :(

Dearth Disco (Trayce), Wednesday, 30 September 2009 04:34 (fourteen years ago) link

aww

electric sound of jim (original version) (electricsound), Wednesday, 30 September 2009 04:35 (fourteen years ago) link

is the moral of this story "LOL, IT ASPIES"

surge gainsbourg protector (haitch), Wednesday, 30 September 2009 04:37 (fourteen years ago) link

Maybe I looked like this:

http://profile.ak.fbcdn.net/object3/378/98/n63627971441_8170.jpg

xpost hahahaha.

Dearth Disco (Trayce), Wednesday, 30 September 2009 04:37 (fourteen years ago) link

We just fired one of our employees. :-(

Nathalie (stevienixed), Wednesday, 30 September 2009 09:22 (fourteen years ago) link

What for, nath?

kingkongvsgodzilla, Wednesday, 30 September 2009 10:17 (fourteen years ago) link

She wasn't needed anymore. But y'know, it fucks you up having to do that. I know it"s horrible getting fired but havong to do it, is crap as well. Of course financially more rewarding.

Nathalie (stevienixed), Wednesday, 30 September 2009 10:44 (fourteen years ago) link

OK sales dude, if you ask me to send you an email explaining why a customer can't get any faster a connection speed than what they now have, can you TELL ME if you're going to forward it unedited to the damn customer, so I know to word it in such a way that they're not seeing all our internal processes you guys like to hide from the customers? That'd be just *super*, thanks very much. Grrr.

Dearth Disco (Trayce), Thursday, 1 October 2009 01:10 (fourteen years ago) link

Not gonna read the whole thread to find out, but how many of you admit to BEING an annoying co-wowrker, at least part of the time? Me, I'm a world-class desk drummer - probably spend a half-hour each day tapping out complex drum patterns and fills (thumb = bass drum, fingertips = tomtoms, fingernail = snare). Not too loudly, but it's still gotta irritate somebody, right?

Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Suggest Banned (Myonga Vön Bontee), Thursday, 1 October 2009 06:21 (fourteen years ago) link

Yeah, my bf got hauled over the coals by his manager for doing precisely that :) I dont think it rly stopped him, mind you.

Dearth Disco (Trayce), Thursday, 1 October 2009 06:33 (fourteen years ago) link

And I know I'm an annoying co-worker - I mutter to myself a lot and swear at things.

Dearth Disco (Trayce), Thursday, 1 October 2009 06:33 (fourteen years ago) link

Desk drumming is probably the one "irritating" co-worker activity that I don't care about, because I seem to be able to block it out very easily.

a gift from your mind in the form of the perfect beat (snoball), Thursday, 1 October 2009 09:11 (fourteen years ago) link

This is an IT department. We are all mutterers and swearers-at-the-computer. This is perfectly normal behaviour for an IT department. We have that kind of personal relationship with our machines.

Whenever I get placed in another kind of department, I am invariably told off for my muttering and my swearing at the computer.

This is why you put all the IT weirdoes together in a basement. So we don't irritate normos.

I Like Daydreams, I've Had Enough Reality (Masonic Boom), Thursday, 1 October 2009 10:04 (fourteen years ago) link

my annoying co worker trait is being on a message board alllllll daaaay.

Brewer's Bitch (darraghmac), Thursday, 1 October 2009 10:11 (fourteen years ago) link

I'm a world-class desk drummer

Yeah, Myonga, and so am I.

And it's REALLY IRRITATING when I'm in an office where someone ELSE is as well!

Unless everyone else joins in and we all become Stomp or something.,.

Mark G, Thursday, 1 October 2009 10:51 (fourteen years ago) link

i do big ol dramatic sighs all the time. i never realize until theyre already out.

Hillary had Everest in his veins (sunny successor), Thursday, 1 October 2009 13:09 (fourteen years ago) link

Orhan Panuk won, and he REALLY offends the Turkish (or at least their govt)

When two tribes go to war, he always gets picked last (James Morrison), Friday, 2 October 2009 01:24 (fourteen years ago) link

Argh wrong thread - second time I've done that in two days.

When two tribes go to war, he always gets picked last (James Morrison), Friday, 2 October 2009 01:25 (fourteen years ago) link

xp: sunny, i sigh all the time, but it's physioligical rather than "dramatic". I never noticed until a roommate complained.

otoh, i mutter and curse at least hourly.

Good stand-up, Americans (kingkongvsgodzilla), Friday, 2 October 2009 10:18 (fourteen years ago) link

physiological

Good stand-up, Americans (kingkongvsgodzilla), Friday, 2 October 2009 10:19 (fourteen years ago) link

Orhan Pamuk won what? I like him, I'd rather talk about him that the stupid annoying twunt in the call centre.

I'm a hot lady in my bedroom and I need a Lindstrøm (Masonic Boom), Friday, 2 October 2009 10:19 (fourteen years ago) link

Sorry, it was for over in the Nobel Literature discussion, where people were saying only writers who didn't offend anybody won it.

When two tribes go to war, he always gets picked last (James Morrison), Friday, 2 October 2009 10:30 (fourteen years ago) link

Damn, here was me hoping there was n Orhan Pamuk thread.

I'm a hot lady in my bedroom and I need a Lindstrøm (Masonic Boom), Friday, 2 October 2009 10:39 (fourteen years ago) link

Not gonna read the whole thread to find out, but how many of you admit to BEING an annoying co-wowrker,

i think i admitted to this a while ago.

The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Friday, 2 October 2009 14:53 (fourteen years ago) link

i ain't seem to find it - maybe it was another thread - but i listed out all my "annoying coworker" sins at point. anyways here they are off the top of my head:

1) desk drumming
2) loud sighing
3) occasional singing
4) announcing when i've had a "good shit"
5) describing my more impressive poops in epic detail to my visibly uncomfortable coworkers
6) describing and detailing my sexual conquests
7) the occasional misreading emails and blaming others
8) blatantly ignoring coworkers i do not like
9) ignoring my phone
10) refusing to activate my voicemail

i think that's it.
for now.

The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Friday, 2 October 2009 15:28 (fourteen years ago) link

high five! i do all of those except 1), which is disgusting.

caek, Friday, 2 October 2009 15:34 (fourteen years ago) link

4) announcing when i've had a "good shit"

I've just had a jolly good shit myself, old boy!

a gift from your mind in the form of the perfect beat (snoball), Friday, 2 October 2009 15:36 (fourteen years ago) link

high five!

The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Friday, 2 October 2009 15:37 (fourteen years ago) link

Top hole! er, ctually it was the bottom one (ba dum pssh!)

a gift from your mind in the form of the perfect beat (snoball), Friday, 2 October 2009 15:37 (fourteen years ago) link

I think I might be annoying. Me and my coworker loudly rant about the rampant stupidity of this place daily. And sing. And chuck paperclips at one another. And laugh way too much for any of the sad sacks around us, I'm sure.

I HEART CREEPY MENS (Deric W. Haircare), Friday, 2 October 2009 15:59 (fourteen years ago) link

^ would sack^

Brewer's Bitch (darraghmac), Friday, 2 October 2009 16:01 (fourteen years ago) link

9) ignoring my phone
10) refusing to activate my voicemail

Yeah I do that.

Me and my coworker loudly rant about the rampant stupidity of this place daily

That too. But then my manager was the other day as well so I think that's OK.

Colonel Poo, Friday, 2 October 2009 16:26 (fourteen years ago) link

Oh, yeah. Our manager chimes in on the regular. This place is a hot mess. I cannot understate the level of stupidity here. It's a law office, but I've worked in any number of minimum wage workplaces with a higher overall level of competence and intelligence.

And ignoring the phone! I only answer for, like, 3 people.

I HEART CREEPY MENS (Deric W. Haircare), Friday, 2 October 2009 16:34 (fourteen years ago) link

most of the time i answer. the trick with voicemail is that i cannot confirm any revisions or approvals left via voice message. and with clients being what they are i need that sort of shit in writing.

The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Friday, 2 October 2009 16:44 (fourteen years ago) link

Yeah, that phone thing is a given. If I don't have it in writing (i.e. an email) then it never happened.

I'm a hot lady in my bedroom and I need a Lindstrøm (Masonic Boom), Friday, 2 October 2009 16:46 (fourteen years ago) link

I particularly ignore the phone if it's an external number, because I extremely rarely ever have to talk to clients directly, at most I email them, tbh 95% of the time I do answer it's a wrong number or some recruitment agency anyway

Colonel Poo, Friday, 2 October 2009 16:49 (fourteen years ago) link

Right. I have a voicemail message letting callers know that they need to e-mail me if they need me to actually do anything for them. Which is 99% of all calls I receive and so I feel wholly justified in ignoring them.

I HEART CREEPY MENS (Deric W. Haircare), Friday, 2 October 2009 17:13 (fourteen years ago) link

I DON'T CARE WHAT YOUR FAVORITE COLD MEDICINES ARE AND WHY YOU DON'T LIKE X OR Y AND FOR THE LOVE OF GOD PLEASE FINISH CHEWING YOUR FOOD BEFORE YOU BROADCAST ALL THIS INANE SHIT ANYWAY!

tehresa, Sunday, 4 October 2009 22:23 (fourteen years ago) link

chewing issues and eating issues have always been my main things with coworkers. this includes asking me what im eating when it is suuuuper obvious and then acting like i said it was monkey brains

e\m/ily (roxymuzak), Sunday, 4 October 2009 22:25 (fourteen years ago) link

i thought i was done with these horrible people forever :(
this guy is SO LOUD it jolts me when he talks.
and then there's the girl who says "yeahhhh" after EVERY SENTENCE and has this high pitched whiny 'omg but i'm so cute! yeahhhh!' voice.

tehresa, Sunday, 4 October 2009 22:28 (fourteen years ago) link

It's the first week in October. Stop talking about Christmas, and stop calling me Scrooge just because I choose to celebrate Christmas via the medium of not covering my desk in spangly tat.

ailsa, Sunday, 4 October 2009 22:34 (fourteen years ago) link

Uuff, that's awful, Alisa. Don't tell me they've started with the Xmas music already!?

Emily, what do you eat that gives your co-workers the monkey-brain recoils?

2009 Nominee, Best African (Whitey on the Moon), Sunday, 4 October 2009 22:46 (fourteen years ago) link

sardines?

tehresa, Sunday, 4 October 2009 22:46 (fourteen years ago) link

Ugh I am the loud one in my office but I cant help it, I've gone half-deaf and I'm having trouble modulating my volume :(

ceci n'est pas une pipecock (Trayce), Sunday, 4 October 2009 22:47 (fourteen years ago) link

These are past and not current coworkers, but the list included and was not limited to: a falafel. portobello mushroom sandwich. pad thai. beef w/ broccoli. hummus and pita triangles. thai peanut curry. black bean burger. pesto.

e\m/ily (roxymuzak), Sunday, 4 October 2009 22:51 (fourteen years ago) link

you MONSTER. :)

Lovely and tender, like velvet. (Upt0eleven), Sunday, 4 October 2009 22:52 (fourteen years ago) link

No carols yet, but the decorations have been discussed at some length.

I'm quite happy to admit to being the overly-sarcastic fun-hater in the office. Luckily, all but one of my colleagues think my withering sarcasm is hilarious and quite possibly believe it to be an act.

ailsa, Sunday, 4 October 2009 22:52 (fourteen years ago) link

stop saying "numetrical"
it is NUMERICAL!!!

tehresa, Monday, 5 October 2009 00:09 (fourteen years ago) link

hallo that should be in NUMETAL ORDER

tehresa, Monday, 5 October 2009 00:10 (fourteen years ago) link

Similar complaint:

Stop pronouncing "Reconcile" as REE-CON-CILE!

The World's Biggest Christ (Z S), Monday, 5 October 2009 00:11 (fourteen years ago) link

lol tehresa didn't get the numetrical changeover email

Brewer's Bitch (darraghmac), Monday, 5 October 2009 00:35 (fourteen years ago) link

and has this high pitched whiny 'omg but i'm so cute! yeahhhh!' voice.

would guiltily feel silent attraction to

New Wavves (sic), Monday, 5 October 2009 09:56 (fourteen years ago) link

Nobody says "downdating" anymore, but still...

Mark G, Monday, 5 October 2009 11:03 (fourteen years ago) link

WHY WHY WHY do I have to write out a long list of things that one particular employee has been doing wrong on a weekly fucking basis? Working in a rehearsal studio is NOT fucking high-level work, it's easy, do it fucking properly! And DO NOT put the latch on the door then slam it shut, so the person working the next morning has to prise it open with a crowbar.

(deep breath)

OK, got it out of my system now.
Grr.
Note to self : don't ask someone to use their common sense when they don't have any...

The people of Ork are marching upon us (Matt #2), Saturday, 10 October 2009 16:16 (fourteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

I just listened to a gasping, frenzied 30 minute soliloquy about a co-worker's adventure in chiropractic. She delved into every quirk and quiddity of her spinal health - each injury, sleeping habits, her history of bad posture, her marching band days and their effect on her physicality.

I guess I shouldn't complain; I could be listening to her talk about mucus. (again)

feed them to the (Linden Ave) lions (will), Monday, 26 October 2009 16:56 (fourteen years ago) link

Console yourself in the knowledge she's throwing a big pile of money at someone who (claims to) believe that "spinal adjustments" (making your back crack) remove "subluxations" (mysterious things that are definitely wrong with your spine even if the x-ray can't see them) and increase the body's "innate intelligence" (oh I don't fucking know).
Scientology dressed up as medicine.

Still, it does feel great getting your joints all cracked and stretched. Not worth £30 a time though.

Suggest Gandhi (onimo), Tuesday, 27 October 2009 11:06 (fourteen years ago) link

She could go to the top floor of where I work. I just went up there for the first time ever to get some bog roll (runny nose - toilets on other floors shut) and found a sign saying that they do 'warm stone therapy' up there.

GamalielRatsey, Tuesday, 27 October 2009 11:41 (fourteen years ago) link

That gives me an idea - warm towel therapy. Hugging towels straight out the tumble drier feels fantastic.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 27 October 2009 11:50 (fourteen years ago) link

Oh man, dude, we're cool and all, but stop exclaiming "FUDGE!" when something upsets you. Every two hours or so.

kingkongvsgodzilla, Wednesday, 4 November 2009 16:50 (fourteen years ago) link

hahaha he sounds funny

e\m/ily (roxymuzak), Friday, 6 November 2009 21:31 (fourteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...

"Do you think on Biggie and Tupac's tombstones there's an inscription that reads 'Killing Each Other Over Music Was A Bad Idea'? Because that's what they did."

ilx mooncup (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 20:54 (fourteen years ago) link

A+

The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Tuesday, 1 December 2009 21:14 (fourteen years ago) link

"You know the only way we can take Afghanistan? It's if we roll into it like the Americans took the US. Just take them out one tribe at a time and colonize them. That's the only way. The country is gonna go how the country is gonna go."
^can't see him, but am imagining him polishing his monocle while he says this.

Drama Mama's and Papa's too! (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 3 December 2009 18:24 (fourteen years ago) link

Yeah, American families are just dying to relocate to Afganistan.

nickn, Thursday, 3 December 2009 19:30 (fourteen years ago) link

Dying is the word.

WHY DON'T YOU JUST LICK THE BUS DIRECTLY (Laurel), Thursday, 3 December 2009 19:44 (fourteen years ago) link

she never shuts up

afa the i can c (roxymuzak), Thursday, 10 December 2009 21:35 (fourteen years ago) link

Fuck, xmas break looming brings out the WORST in everyone... panic panic panic... fuck off you twats, I'm doing two peoples jobs and trying to show other people how to do mine, because no one else does my work... I dont have time for your minor concerns! *&%%^$

millivanillimillenary (Trayce), Thursday, 10 December 2009 21:57 (fourteen years ago) link

she called back to talk more

afa the i can c (roxymuzak), Thursday, 10 December 2009 21:58 (fourteen years ago) link

So glad I have 3 weeks off after next week. POOL TIME.

millivanillimillenary (Trayce), Thursday, 10 December 2009 21:58 (fourteen years ago) link

what is this wierd compulsion to just talk even when your intended audience isn't giving you any cues that they're listening at all? please do stfu about your hbp, God's 'plan' for your life and the last 3 dan brown novels you read.

feed them to the (Linden Ave) lions (will), Thursday, 10 December 2009 22:07 (fourteen years ago) link

Jesus wants you to quit talking. be still and know that He is Lord iirc.

feed them to the (Linden Ave) lions (will), Thursday, 10 December 2009 22:07 (fourteen years ago) link

My sales guys keep asking me questions that make me wonder if they have any idea what I do or how the office operates, seeing as they are basic questions whose answers are "the same way we did this for years so you should already know this". Farkin.

millivanillimillenary (Trayce), Thursday, 10 December 2009 22:10 (fourteen years ago) link

so glad i am one in an office of three ppl

it's like 10,000 goons when all you need is a trife (m bison), Thursday, 10 December 2009 22:14 (fourteen years ago) link

"i've decided that I have zero respect for Lloyd Banks. Just look at this guy. He dresses like a thug."

that is a whole discussion within itself that is worth debating (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 10 December 2009 22:27 (fourteen years ago) link

why wont you leave

afa the i can c (roxymuzak), Monday, 14 December 2009 00:37 (fourteen years ago) link

Part of my job is to screen potential donors for our non-profit organization. My coworker and I usually field requests for this information from the front-line fundraising staff, who may have heard about a person's name from a news story or had it suggested to them by another donor or something.

Whenever a name comes down the line that my coworker thinks would be unable to make a major gift, he dismisses them as "b1g n0b0dies" - e.g. "Look out, we've got another b1g n0b0dy coming through"; "I don't understand why they keep sending us all these b1g n0b0dies".

It's rude as hell. However much money these people make, they are always serious professionals with much higher caliber careers than he has.

(googleproofed because he says it so much it's like a catchphrase)

kingkongvsgodzilla, Wednesday, 16 December 2009 16:59 (fourteen years ago) link

He always says it in the same descending sing-song kinda voice too.

kingkongvsgodzilla, Wednesday, 16 December 2009 17:03 (fourteen years ago) link

just start saying his name the same way.

The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Wednesday, 16 December 2009 17:13 (fourteen years ago) link

"that brittany murphy girl's career was in a tailspin anyway."

fictional, homosexual, Baltimore hoodlum (forksclovetofu), Monday, 21 December 2009 16:58 (fourteen years ago) link

Allow me to share some helpful tips for those starting new jobs:

1. Read you fucking offer letter. Don't sign a fucking part-time offer and then come back to me and say "oh I didn't read it I, actually want to be full time and get benefits kthx!"

2. Do not tell your boss "this is my flex-schedule." *I* set your schedule.

3. It is called "work" for a reason, assholes. You sacrifice a level of personal autonomy in exchange for a paycheck. If you are unprepared to do that, may I suggest you not work.

sorry for the rant but what the hell is wrong with these people?

quincie, Wednesday, 23 December 2009 19:17 (fourteen years ago) link

have you noticed i haven't responded to your constant rambling for 1.5 hours?

stfu

S.E., we runnin' this FAP shit (roxymuzak), Sunday, 27 December 2009 23:29 (fourteen years ago) link

He loudly tells the ending of 'Up In the Air' and when I scoot over to say, "Thanks, I guess I won't have to see that movie now" he replies "Oh, I wouldn't have thought you'd want to see it anyway. It seems a little mainstream for you."

lazy cold meat and chocolate seasonal mentality (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 5 January 2010 19:31 (fourteen years ago) link

dude I share an office with will not stop doing this

Lipsmacking is performed by many Old World monkey species, and some studies of baboons and macaques suggest that lipsmacking may be associated with social status. We studied 60 adult anubis baboons (Papio cynocephalus anubis) for 18 months, measured social status and the rate of lipsmacking, and used these data to test the hypothesis that lipsmacking is related to social status. Our results indicate that social status and lipsmacking were not significantly correlated for either males or females. Analysis of lipsmacking in relation to social class (high vs. low) showed no significant difference between status classes for either sex. Lipsmacking was, however, found to be positively associated with affinitive behaviors. These results suggest that baboon lipsmacking provides positive social communication independently of social status.

bnw, Wednesday, 13 January 2010 19:17 (fourteen years ago) link

man, i have a lot of mixed emotions and fear about being out of work but there are a few people that i am SO looking forward to not have to post about in here anymore

The tendrils INTERTWINE with gentle undulations. (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 13 January 2010 19:33 (fourteen years ago) link

yeaaahh!! i quit my job too

S.E., we runnin' this FAP shit (roxymuzak), Monday, 18 January 2010 14:08 (fourteen years ago) link

our section just got a mail about 'biodiversity awareness' training and lady next to me has started bitching about 'them' learning 'our ways' when they come to our country etc.

i haven't the heart, tbh.

tired of my old display name (darraghmac), Monday, 18 January 2010 14:30 (fourteen years ago) link

my job occasionally entails sending out mailings about biodiversity awareness training, so I'm glad that I am possibly facilitating incidents such as that one.

FC Tom Tomsk Club (Merdeyeux), Monday, 18 January 2010 14:51 (fourteen years ago) link

maybe, in fairness, i'm underestimating her and she is talking about foreign plants coming in and stealing our jobs.

tired of my old display name (darraghmac), Monday, 18 January 2010 15:04 (fourteen years ago) link

what sort of jobs require biodiversity awareness training? just curious.

Maria, Monday, 18 January 2010 15:05 (fourteen years ago) link

generally planners, architects and so on for me, with the training usually being along the lines of "this is the law re biodiversity, don't break it. It'd be nice if you'd do more to help too, but we don't hold high hopes."

that and the more obvious and more specialised stuff for rangers, parks officers etc.

FC Tom Tomsk Club (Merdeyeux), Monday, 18 January 2010 15:11 (fourteen years ago) link

i see, thanks.

Maria, Monday, 18 January 2010 15:12 (fourteen years ago) link

generally planners, architects and so on

yeah, i work for a local authority so it would have been aimed at the above types.

tired of my old display name (darraghmac), Monday, 18 January 2010 15:27 (fourteen years ago) link

Oh hi, when you are asked to write a script to process some files that are already being generated it is nice if your script actually processes the current file format, instead telling me I have to rewrite all the existing code just to have the columns in a different completely arbitrary order of your own devising, including some clumsily concatenated shit which will probably cause some exciting new bugs in the future

</geek rage>

canna kirk (a passing spacecadet), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 13:04 (fourteen years ago) link

also it is slightly annoying to me that you are in at 9:40, out at 4:30 and disappear for extended meal breaks at 12 and 3 every day, but the boss never looks in here to notice, and since you get stuff done and i'm on ilx all day i guess i don't have a leg to stand on and in fact i am the stupid annoying co-worker, but also a grumpy one

canna kirk (a passing spacecadet), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 13:08 (fourteen years ago) link

if you are going to leave your cell phone unattended at your desk, PUT IT ON FUCKING SILENT.

i don't even know who is responsible for this. every goddamn day, though.

call all destroyer, Thursday, 4 February 2010 15:37 (fourteen years ago) link

Just start answering it as a brothel madam/pimp.

Attention please, a child has been lost in the tunnel of goats. (James Morrison), Thursday, 4 February 2010 22:46 (fourteen years ago) link

My ex-coworker used to abandon their phone every lunch hour and every day for 40 minutes an extremely distorted Disney movie song ringtone would blare out. If I ever accidentally see whatever film it was I'm going to have a nervous twitch for days.

canna kirk (a passing spacecadet), Thursday, 4 February 2010 22:54 (fourteen years ago) link

crepey lady please leave me alone

tube socks and a box of krispy kreme (los blue jeans), Friday, 5 February 2010 04:41 (fourteen years ago) link

do what they did on The Office and throw those phones into the suspended ceiling above their desks.

(or just put it in a drawer)

koogs, Friday, 5 February 2010 08:08 (fourteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

christ on a cross please stop talking about your cats. and their stools. please.

king willie style (will), Monday, 22 February 2010 14:46 (fourteen years ago) link

^^^ guilty of this, but i work from home, so the only person i annoy is the cat in question

on in the b.g. while you're grouting (stevie), Monday, 22 February 2010 14:56 (fourteen years ago) link

oh man working from home sounds like a dream from which i'd never want to wake

king willie style (will), Monday, 22 February 2010 15:00 (fourteen years ago) link

def. has its advantages tho it has its own 7-year itch. "so bored...having stupid co-workers wasn't so bad, was it?" "oh wait, yes it was"

blow it out your bad-taste hole (WmC), Monday, 22 February 2010 15:16 (fourteen years ago) link

i've had two primary "real job" experiences since college. the first was a small company where I typically worked with about 4-6 other nerds who enjoyed mocking christians and talking about music/ pop-cult minutiae for hours at a time. it was pretty great. the downside: the boss was a privileged, tragically W-esque moron who seemed hell-bent on letting his ADD and wholly undeserved self-satisfaction run the company into the ground.

the second is an infinitely better-run environment (recently listed on Forbes top 100 best places to work, even), but the day-to-day dealings with boring office gossip/ dramas and Talkypants with her cats and her World of Warcraft and her indgiestion and her mucus is just soul-crushing.

despite the obvious drawbacks (boredom, staying focused, driven etc.), i feel self-employment, or at least self-directed employment from a location of my choosing, would rule pretty hard. but hey, i grass is always greener, etc.

king willie style (will), Monday, 22 February 2010 15:51 (fourteen years ago) link

tbh right now would swap freedom of working from home for freedom from clients not paying/trying to steal my copyrights and irregularity of paycheque. but mostly it rools.

on in the b.g. while you're grouting (stevie), Monday, 22 February 2010 15:56 (fourteen years ago) link

There's one coworker of ours that just seems to be trying to undo all the good things I (or others) said about him last year. He's in the role above ours, but is not our manager, but is the type that seems to like doing things for the sake of doing them.

If he's writing a Standard Operating Procedure, he overwrites them to the point where every miniscule step is detailed (even though he's been told he's supposed to write them from the perspective that we know how to do the basic functions), making the things several pages long. He nitpicks when auditing peoples' work, yet his SOPs have numerous spelling and grammatical mistakes, and often contain incorrect or broken references (ie, you'll be in Step F and at the end it will tell you to go to Step F).

He also doesn't see the big picture when he makes decisions, and often eschews others' feedback and just does what he wants, even though he's not authorized to do so. On two-three occasions he's made formal announcements of new procedures only to get so many complaints that his manager has forced him to recant them within minutes.

He's a perfectly nice guy, but he just is so detached from those below him and seems to not care about it one iota.

Ballistic, Tuesday, 23 February 2010 03:08 (fourteen years ago) link

I work in a shoe shop and people ask me seriously to seperate their toes for them so they can try on sandals with toe-posts, the worst part is when they say shit like "I'm probably not going to buy them, I don't really like them, I just want to see how they look when they're on"

boxedjoy, Tuesday, 23 February 2010 22:17 (fourteen years ago) link

Yep, I pretty much wouldn't last a day at that job. Kudos to you!

you gone float up with it (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 23 February 2010 22:18 (fourteen years ago) link

I work in a shoe shop and people ask me seriously to seperate their toes for them so they can try on sandals with toe-posts, the worst part is when they say shit like "I'm probably not going to buy them, I don't really like them, I just want to see how they look when they're on"

this might stop if you start carrying pruning shears around with you

Jack the Dude-Kicker (HI DERE), Tuesday, 23 February 2010 22:23 (fourteen years ago) link

ugh, dude, you get my pick as next host of "Dirty Jobs," agh GROSS

blow it out your bad-taste hole (WmC), Tuesday, 23 February 2010 22:25 (fourteen years ago) link

I am trying to imagine the level of shamelessness and self-regard necessary for me to even contemplate asking someone else to unstick my toes for me. Like, if I'm asking the question and I'm not a quadriplegic, there is something desperately wrong with me

Jack the Dude-Kicker (HI DERE), Tuesday, 23 February 2010 22:27 (fourteen years ago) link

Yeah Im confused by this, how hard is it to part one's own first 2 toes? Can some people not independently move their own feet or something?

ABBAcab (Trayce), Tuesday, 23 February 2010 22:31 (fourteen years ago) link

Make them wear the store sock.

ABBAcab (Trayce), Tuesday, 23 February 2010 22:31 (fourteen years ago) link

Wellllll, if you're not used to salespeople, it is a teeny bit weird to have someone put a shoe on FOR you at the store. I can't imagine a set-up in which a person asks you to UNSTICK THEIR TOES but then the procedure of sitting down and sticking your foot out for someone to do this menial thing that you are perfectly capable of has always struck me as really awkward.

boxed, I have to ask you: how many women's dresses do you routinely see up while you're down there? That's one of the most awkward things about the whole arrangement, to me.

The other side of genetic power today (Laurel), Tuesday, 23 February 2010 22:32 (fourteen years ago) link

ugh there is no way to make the horrifying joke I want to make without being an ass

Jack the Dude-Kicker (HI DERE), Tuesday, 23 February 2010 22:35 (fourteen years ago) link

We have store stockings for the ladies, which they wear when they try on boots, and when they're done with them, they hold them out in their hands for me to take. Like, cheers for the sweaty bit of material you've just had on your foot, are you sure you wouldn't rather just keep them for yourself, they're free after all.

We don't normally put the shoes on the customers unless they're a bit old and useless, but women crossing their legs in short dresses or skirts with slits can be uncomfortable - as can standing beside someone who chooses to bend over to tie a lace and raises their arse right up in the air so they're essentially pointing it at me.

Customers are the people I work with, so every day is a mystery rollercoaster of grim failings. It's amazing what people can't do without help: I'd say maybe twice a week an adult will ask me to help them decide if a shoe fits them and is comfortable

boxedjoy, Tuesday, 23 February 2010 22:42 (fourteen years ago) link

Justine to thread with more shoe store stories imo

ABBAcab (Trayce), Tuesday, 23 February 2010 22:43 (fourteen years ago) link

whoa

forksclovetofu, Tuesday, 23 February 2010 23:31 (fourteen years ago) link

You're really going to have to explain this unstuck toe thing. I can't think of any scenario (paraplegics aside, per above) where someone couldn't separate their toes just by moving their big toe...

FIST FIGHT! FIST FIGHT! FIST FIGHT IN THE PARKING LOT! (milo z), Tuesday, 23 February 2010 23:48 (fourteen years ago) link

I don't have any real good stories but I would like to ask the young white guy at work to stop talking like an old black woman. To the old black women. Otherwise, u cool. Thanks.

╓abies, Wednesday, 24 February 2010 01:11 (fourteen years ago) link

Customers are the people I work with, so every day is a mystery rollercoaster of grim failings. It's amazing what people can't do without help: I'd say maybe twice a week an adult will ask me to help them decide if a shoe fits them and is comfortable

oh man..... welcome to my world. I never had to unstick toes though.

tokyo rosemary, Wednesday, 24 February 2010 01:25 (fourteen years ago) link

lol trayce!

working in a shoe store was one of the worst jobs i've ever had, in terms of customers. my favourite is when ppl do nothing to help - you have to lift their foot up and FORCE it into the shoe, bc they've gone all limp and fuckin useless.

just1n3, Wednesday, 24 February 2010 03:23 (fourteen years ago) link

yea, it's like customers think because you're the employee, they can cease to exist for fifteen minutes.

back when i worked in restaurants, i worked in a place that served fajitas. common sense is that when you put down sizzling fajitas, you put them away from the kiddies. well, this table was 4 people in a 4 top so i put it as far away as I could without like, dropping it on the floor.

the dumb bitch watches her kid sit up, and slowly inch his finger towards the hot sizzling plate. She's closer to it than me, mind you, and has a clear path to stop him. She just lets him do it then she yells at me saying "yo holmes, you can't like put hot plates in front of kids, y'know?".

bit my tongue and walked away.

Ballistic, Wednesday, 24 February 2010 03:28 (fourteen years ago) link

so i'm using the men's room the other day, doing my business, and outside the stall, I hear three dudes who presumably know each other having a loud conversation while peeing. this one kid decides to talk about how 6 pm is the best time to "drop a deuce" and talks about how he took a crap the other night and as he was leaving the janitor chick came in and she was cute and how he was embarassed that he left a shitty smell behind. this uninteresting and unnecessary story went on for like 3 minutes.

I wonder when the hell my office turned into a fraternity. The concept of modifying your behavior whilst at work is beyond some people I guess.

Ballistic, Friday, 5 March 2010 04:54 (fourteen years ago) link

gallows humour about job cuts while jobs are actually being cut = pen in your fucking eye in a minute you callous prick

the pity party of tiny feet (onimo), Friday, 5 March 2010 13:27 (fourteen years ago) link

no kidding. my cubemate got laid off the other day, first layoffs in my department ever. hits home, and isn't funny....

Ballistic, Friday, 5 March 2010 13:52 (fourteen years ago) link

Being one of those laid-off types, can I bitch about an ex-coworker that is causing me fits? So there were three of us at my old job studying for a professional exam and the study materials are hell of expensive so we split the costs and have been sharing them. Which has gone fine, became a bit more difficult when I was laid off, but still worked out alright. Anyway, I am finished with a bunch of the material so I wanted to give it back to this girl I used to work with. Was supposed to meet her for a quick lunch to exchange the books and notebooks. Well she backed out of that so I was just going to meet her in the parking lot of a building down the street for a quick exchange. No big deal. Then she says she won't have much time, so can I just meet her in the parking lot (keeping in mind this would now be the parking lot of the place I was laid-off from in October). Not ideal, but okay. Then, get an e-mail this morning that she might not even have time for that, so can I just bring it to the office? Um, no. I am not going to walk back into the office where I was laid-off because you can't take two minutes to walk outside. Sorry.

you gone float up with it (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 5 March 2010 13:59 (fourteen years ago) link

You could throw them thru a window or something

MF Dom (Noodle Vague), Friday, 5 March 2010 14:00 (fourteen years ago) link

better yet, tie the materials to a bottle rocket and aim it into the window.

noted schloar (dyao), Friday, 5 March 2010 14:02 (fourteen years ago) link

^^^ Blue sky thinking, like it

MF Dom (Noodle Vague), Friday, 5 March 2010 14:03 (fourteen years ago) link

dyao getting closer!!

Anyway, I think I found the solution. I e-mailed the guy that works there that I really liked, he's gonna run outside and grab them from me.

you gone float up with it (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 5 March 2010 14:03 (fourteen years ago) link

u are spoiling a surprise 'redundancy' party they have thrown for u imo

quiz show flat-track bully (darraghmac), Friday, 5 March 2010 14:11 (fourteen years ago) link

is she the type that takes smoke breaks every two hours, but then consistently says all day that she "doesn't have time" to do stuff like the above because she's "too busy"?

Ballistic, Friday, 5 March 2010 14:12 (fourteen years ago) link

LOL @ darraghmac

No, she doesn't smoke. She just spends all day shopping online and the freaks out every single day at 4:00 because she was "OMG SO MUCH TO DO TODAY I'LL NEVER FINISH OMG".

you gone float up with it (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 5 March 2010 14:14 (fourteen years ago) link

i love when my coworkers do that and I go "hmm, I see that I have more work than you and I finished an hour ago"!

Ballistic, Friday, 5 March 2010 14:15 (fourteen years ago) link

i am one of those workers <3 public sector

quiz show flat-track bully (darraghmac), Friday, 5 March 2010 14:16 (fourteen years ago) link

Wow my typing is shit today. Need more coffee.

you gone float up with it (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 5 March 2010 14:17 (fourteen years ago) link

we just lost a v important client - at least 1/3 of us service these guys. you have not seen gallows humour until you've seen advertising layoffs! everyone is taking it well, mind you, alot have found new jobs already (even tho client is using us for another few months). alot of jagermiester lunches and after-work fairwell romps.

anyways - i like my job and will miss all these guys when they're gone.
sry i'm not bitching about stupid coworkers.

The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Friday, 5 March 2010 15:27 (fourteen years ago) link

So I stopped by the office this afternoon and sure enough the original girl I was working with came out. Apparently the guy I was hoping to meet with got called out to a jobsite. She comes out and hands me the study material and says, "I figured you'd want to come up the office". Uh, nope. Why on earth would I want to walk back into the office where I was laid off?

you gone float up with it (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 5 March 2010 22:06 (fourteen years ago) link

WTF? what an idiot

Mr. Que, Friday, 5 March 2010 22:07 (fourteen years ago) link

Of course, I shouldn't expect anything else, she is really, truly clueless. And a big reason why I am still bitter about losing my job. As all of my former coworkers said many times, she has no clue how to do her job. But because she kissed my former boss' ass every chance she got and because she made significantly less than I did, she was allowed to stay. I mean, lets put it this way. We are both taking the seven part architect's exam. I've taken and passed five of them so far. She's taken four and failed three. GREAT CHOICE ex-boss.

you gone float up with it (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 5 March 2010 22:12 (fourteen years ago) link

A few years ago when I still worked in a call center, a customer died meaning they had retirement benefits that were paid out to their children. Instead of just one child, they split it evenly amongst several (4 or 5). Not all of them were aware they were getting this benefit. After the benefits were transferred, all of them were called so that they could call back in and be informed of their benefits and what they could do with them.

Most of them understood, but one of them was very confused as to who we were and why we were calling. One of our elder employees got the call, and she was, shall I say, less than brilliant, and somewhat senile. She basically couldn't handle any call that wasn't linear and predictable, ie, 2% of the calls that came in. So the two of them went back and forth, not getting anywhere.

Eventually, the caller said "I just want to know why I'm supposed to call you!". Our employee then uttered "Well, according to our records, your mom's dead. You might want to check with your father".

...

Ballistic, Friday, 5 March 2010 23:53 (fourteen years ago) link

REPOSTED FROM OTHER COWORKERS THREAD:

I have avoided posting on this thread, but can't stand it anymore.

Dude in my office is a trainwreck of a coworker.

We are attorneys. Ergo, our job includes some petty annoyances which you really just need to get over. These can include demolition of your social plans on a semi-regular basis, lack of regard for your social life by coworkers or superiors, long hours, lack of predictability of schedule.

In other words, you need to be flexible and willing to work to make things work.

All I hear is constant bitching about "I was planning on doing this, and this motherfucker gave me an assignment to do that! Fuck him!" or "Damnit, I had to work this weekend." or "Man, I work too hard."

And its always someone else's fault that these things have happened to him. Its never his fault at all.

All this in an office of 10 total people. Dude. People will hear you, whether they want to or not.

SHUT UP!!!!

Now, if this was his only annoying habit, it would be easier to deal with. Some people deal with things by complaining about them. But it isn't. The other stuff:

- He's an only child, and acts like it around the office by assuming that you want to hear every minute detail about whatever he has done or will be doing. In the course of discussing things at the office, I have heard about the following: his girlfriend's repeated urinary tract infections, his dog's incontinence, his mom's overuse of medical marijuana, and several other strains of conversation which are not worth going into.

- Along those same lines, he always assumes that we're going to eat lunch together. Bro, its not elementary school. Sometimes, I just want to eat in silence and stare at the wall. And not have to hear about any of the above-mentioned items.

- He constantly...CONSTANTLY...fiddles with his crotch. Dude.

- His bad breath is overwhelming. Like, by the end of the day, the hallway outside of his office smells like his halitosis.

- In general, he has this overblown sense of entitlement which I just don't get. He is rude to people, short-tempered, and treats subordinates like shit, which they hold against him. All of this seems to stem from the fact that he's an attorney.

Oh, and he overquotes movies incorrectly. All the time.

Clerk all KNOWIN (B.L.A.M.), Saturday, 6 March 2010 01:02 (fourteen years ago) link

^^^^^^douche times 17.63

Ballistic, Saturday, 6 March 2010 01:03 (fourteen years ago) link

the coworker, not you!

Ballistic, Saturday, 6 March 2010 01:03 (fourteen years ago) link

Right on.

Clerk all KNOWIN (B.L.A.M.), Saturday, 6 March 2010 01:04 (fourteen years ago) link

Whining loudly does give an aire of incompetence too, mostly since 85% of the office (at least mine) doesn't.

Out of all of the loudmouth whiners I've known, I haven't met a single one that was actually good at their job. I fell into the category for a little while after my promotion because of the stress but you realize pretty quick nobody wants to hear your bitching and moaning out loud.

as far as entitlement, grrrr......know too many people like that

Ballistic, Saturday, 6 March 2010 01:07 (fourteen years ago) link

his girlfriend's repeated urinary tract infections

never eat while reading ILX :(

noted schloar (dyao), Saturday, 6 March 2010 01:14 (fourteen years ago) link

Why, yes, when you send me your logo for inclusion in a document, please embed it ineptly at low-resolution in a Word document. That would be lovely!

Attention please, a child has been lost in the tunnel of goats. (James Morrison), Tuesday, 16 March 2010 00:13 (fourteen years ago) link

Professionalism is dead in my office. Five years ago, when I started, people paid some attention to the dress code, didn't talk like they were at a frat party in the lunchroom, and showed basic manners. Now people walk around with shirts hanging out, or wearing disallowed shirts with logos on them or no collar, and have wildly inappropriate conversations...and don't even show basic respect.

One thing that set me off the other day, and it was really a minor detail, but it still came across as quite rude...the general accepted unwritten law is that if multiple people enter the elevator, the person closest to the buttons asks "What floor?" to incoming people and presses the button for them, to prevent 17 people leaning over each other to do it.

So I ask her for my floor, and notice the lady (20 years my senior at least) seems to not have heard me, then shrugs at me. No problem, I repeat my floor...only she does it again, and this time points at her ear. I notice she's wearing an IPod. Rather than take out the headphones, and ask me politely what floor I asked for, she left it in there, and didn't press my floor.

Why the hell would you need to be listening to music on the 2-minute commute from the elevator to your desk? And be that rude that you can't be bothered to take it off to do something as menial as press the floor button for me?

Cattle Grind, Tuesday, 16 March 2010 04:29 (fourteen years ago) link

i tend to shut up more at work, which is... a sign of maturity, I guess :\ the asshole punk in me doesn't appreciate my silence much, but my pocketbook does

Astronaut Mike Dexter (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Tuesday, 16 March 2010 04:42 (fourteen years ago) link

The advice I got when I started this job was "keep your mouth shut for 4 months, just sit and observe, don't tell people too much about yourself". Best advice I ever got.

When it comes to opinions in the workplace, if it is work related, I'm relatively loose and open about what I think, but you even venture near topics like religion or politics and the mouth goes closed because no good ever comes of that in an office environment :/

Cattle Grind, Tuesday, 16 March 2010 11:10 (fourteen years ago) link

"keep your mouth shut for 4 months, just sit and observe, don't tell people too much about yourself"
qft for any office gig

forksclovetofu, Tuesday, 16 March 2010 14:58 (fourteen years ago) link

wearing disallowed shirts with logos on them or no collar

HORREUR

dress code in non-public facing offices can shove it.

take me to your lemur (ledge), Tuesday, 16 March 2010 15:03 (fourteen years ago) link

Darn tootin'.

ABBAcab (Trayce), Wednesday, 17 March 2010 00:38 (fourteen years ago) link

I'm going to politely disagree on this one. I'm hardly a snazzy dresser and often could be mistaken for a bum outside of work. But if you accept a job which makes it clear upon hire that there is a dress code, which is business casual (which means you can wear khakis and even blue jeans on occasion), you are expected to follow it.

These are hardly uniforms in that they give you a lot of freedom in what you can wear within the confines of the code. But you shouldn't be wearing a tee shirt when everybody else is wearing a dress shirt. When clients visit, it reflects badly on us.

Cattle Grind, Wednesday, 17 March 2010 02:40 (fourteen years ago) link

At one of my previous workplaces they had to send out an edict imploring people to *wear shoes*, because, well a couple of guys just didnt.

ABBAcab (Trayce), Wednesday, 17 March 2010 03:21 (fourteen years ago) link

LOL internet nerds etc.

ABBAcab (Trayce), Wednesday, 17 March 2010 03:21 (fourteen years ago) link

I will flat out admit I was a guilty party today, but not on purpose.

Got to work and remembered the pair of jeans I put on had a noticably large hole in the right asscheek. Fortunately my shirt covered 95% of it - I just made sure to be careful when I picked my times to leave my desk.

Cattle Grind, Wednesday, 17 March 2010 03:22 (fourteen years ago) link

> At one of my previous workplaces they had to send out an edict imploring people to *wear shoes*, because, well a couple of guys just didnt.

the boss who *interviewed* me for previous job wasn't wearing shoes (or socks) when he did it.

koogs, Wednesday, 17 March 2010 08:02 (fourteen years ago) link

Shoeless I can tolerate. Sockless is a step too far. A guy who sat next to me used to do it, ugh. But that's not a work thing, I wouldn't appreciate it in e.g. the pub either.

But you shouldn't be wearing a tee shirt when everybody else is wearing a dress shirt. When clients visit, it reflects badly on us.

Perhaps, but why is everyone wearing a dress shirt? If I were to meet clients directly (which I never do) then I could appreciate the value of dressing up, but if not who gives a shit? I suppose I'm just fortunate that I've never had to work anywhere with a dress code so the whole idea is a bit weird to me.

Also 'business casual' = worst of both worlds.

take me to your lemur (ledge), Wednesday, 17 March 2010 10:05 (fourteen years ago) link

Particularly because you have to buy special clothes that you wouldn't wear at any time other than "casual Friday".

might seem normal but is actually (snoball), Wednesday, 17 March 2010 10:13 (fourteen years ago) link

Eh doesn't business cash just mean "somewhere between a suit and a pair of jeans"? It's pretty wide-open for interpretation, khakis and polo shirts notwithstanding.

Ask foreigners and they will tell you the gospel comes from America. (Laurel), Wednesday, 17 March 2010 13:31 (fourteen years ago) link

Shoeless I can tolerate. Sockless is a step too far.

Oh the guy I referred to went barefoot, all the time. Except in extremely cold winter/rain weather when he'd wear this shaggy old pair of ugg boots.

ABBAcab (Trayce), Wednesday, 17 March 2010 23:31 (fourteen years ago) link

He's actually a really cool - and very very smart - guy, just a major hippy.

ABBAcab (Trayce), Wednesday, 17 March 2010 23:31 (fourteen years ago) link

OTT religious lady next to me, saying the rosary under your breath at your desk with the full-on bead-clicking is possibly worse than fingernail clipping.

Jaq, Wednesday, 17 March 2010 23:42 (fourteen years ago) link

Never thought I would say this, but I think I'm ready for some stupid, annoying co-workers.

he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 17 March 2010 23:42 (fourteen years ago) link

Dear ex-boss: if you are going to visit me at my new location and have me set up meetings for you, try not to forget why you asked for them and then blatantly obviously wing it due to lack of preparation, making me look a fule.

ljubljana, Thursday, 18 March 2010 02:30 (fourteen years ago) link

dude I really didn't need to hear about the consistency of your vomit

I gave'em anything that popped into my cabeza. (los blue jeans), Thursday, 18 March 2010 02:34 (fourteen years ago) link

I had one of the worst days I've had in a while yesterday, so I came into the office looking to avoid any conflict. It came looking for me anyway.

I got asked to do some quick testing on Friday - due to another project I was working on that took the full day, I simply forgot about it. Monday comes, I still forget about it. The person who initially asked me to do it, who works in a time zone one hour earlier, sends me an email reminding me, 20 minutes after I left for the day.

She then sends another email before I get in the office. Due to my non-response to two emails I haven't even seen yet, she CCs a few of our managers, concerned that I might not be in the office and asking for someone else to help do the testing.

Ok...yes, it was my fault I forgot, I didn't deny that, I owned up to it. But I'm tired of having to remind this lady that I work in a different time zone than her, so what is 5:15 to her is 6:15 to me. To go and escalate the issue due to my non-response to two emails that were sent while I was out of the office in a compressed timeframe was unnecessary and made me look bad. Within minutes of even seeing the title of the email reminder, I went and did the testing, which took all of five minutes.

And if it was so important to you, why did you wait until that late in the day to remind me? Again, not saying I shouldn't have remembered, but I was only notified of the work via an email early in the morning on Friday while I was entrenched in something major - forgetting does happen on occasion.

Cattle Grind, Thursday, 18 March 2010 03:13 (fourteen years ago) link

Sorry to be a dick, but pretty much your fault dude. If it was asked for on Friday and, if I'm reading you right, you still hadn't done it by the end of the day Monday, I think she had a right to try and seek out someone else to help her.

he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 18 March 2010 03:18 (fourteen years ago) link

My fault that I forgot? Yes. Not denying that. But that is not why she escalated and tried to get help elsewhere. She escalated and asked for additional help because of my non-response to two emails I hadn't even seen yet, which implied to the managers who weren't abreast of the situation that I had ignored three emails requesting this.

I should also note that we have made many complaints to this department for the short turnaround time they request for the testing, due to scenarios like the above...and that the only reason I had to do this retesting in the first place is cuz the chick screwed it up the first time.

Cattle Grind, Thursday, 18 March 2010 03:36 (fourteen years ago) link

i should also note that the importance of what she needed done versus the importance of what I was doing was weighted far more in my direction. but, then again, I may have blown my anger at the situation out of proportion due to the bad day I had yesterday.

Cattle Grind, Thursday, 18 March 2010 03:38 (fourteen years ago) link

Well yeah, obviously there's a lot of other influences that I don't know about, really not trying to bag on you. Maybe I'm not following your timeline correctly, perhaps you can clear it up. You say she asked you on Friday, you forgot. Then you said you also forgot on Monday, is that right? So did she send the two unread (by you) e-mails on Friday or Monday? If Friday, then yeah, I see your side a little more. If Monday though, sorry, I think she's totally in the right to handle it like she did. Think of it from her end - she asked you on Friday and as far as she was concerned you still hadn't done it by the end of day Monday. I think that long with no response is a valid frame for he to be a little concerned.

he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 18 March 2010 03:47 (fourteen years ago) link

Yeah sorry if I was that lady I might've CCed someone else at that point too. Simply so I could get someone else to help out!

ABBAcab (Trayce), Thursday, 18 March 2010 03:50 (fourteen years ago) link

there is something bizarre about her approach here. wouldn't the best thing to do be to contact you in the middle of the day on monday when it's reasonably certain that you're there?

call all destroyer, Thursday, 18 March 2010 03:56 (fourteen years ago) link

jon: no worries, I respect your opinion.

call all destroyer: that's what I'm getting at. She obviously had the intent to remind me, but she waited until after most people in the office leave for the day.

Cattle Grind, Thursday, 18 March 2010 04:21 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah--hard to say if it's retardedness or passive aggression.

call all destroyer, Thursday, 18 March 2010 04:23 (fourteen years ago) link

I guess it's also frustrating as my review is coming up. I'm a top performer and always have been, am looked as a leader in the group, but I had a rough patch where I unfortunately let my personal life spill into work. That combined with an unusual series of illnesses led my performance to not be up to my usual standard. Not everybody even noticed, but some people did, and my manager got concerned.

In the last 8 months, I've completely reversed that negative trend and more than compensated for the brief bad blip on my radar, so something like this, even though it probably will not even be remembered in two days time, I took as something that could reinforce some of the negative beliefs to my peers that I unfortunately bestowed upon myself last year.

Cattle Grind, Thursday, 18 March 2010 04:25 (fourteen years ago) link

Just judging by your descriptions, I would die a slow painful death if I were employed where you work..

mikebee (BATTAGS), Friday, 19 March 2010 00:59 (fourteen years ago) link

turns out it was a big misunderstanding due to a technology flaw - she thought I was out of the office because she didn't see me online due to a name change I'd processed which required her to readd me. so I did overreact.

Cattle Grind, Friday, 19 March 2010 03:36 (fourteen years ago) link

Added to the list of things I've learned about my annoying co-worker:
- his fraternity brother's cat has a tumor the size of a golf ball on its face.
- he like Costco.
- he will be hanging out with his girlfriend this weekend.
- he cannot wait until he has money, so that he can have a place to barbecue.

STFU.

Clerk all KNOWIN (B.L.A.M.), Friday, 19 March 2010 17:33 (fourteen years ago) link

anybody have those coworkers who see you eating lunch, or are on the phone, and start yammering away asking for your help? and don't mind how much of your time they take up, they dont want you to leave until they get what it is they're doing?

Cattle Grind, Friday, 19 March 2010 17:34 (fourteen years ago) link

currently two ladies beside me are ringing around to see if anybody has a 'child of prague' idol that they can decapitate to ensure good wedding on a wedding date at the end of next month.

DarraghmacKwacz (darraghmac), Friday, 19 March 2010 17:37 (fourteen years ago) link

wtf? that's appropriate work convo?

Cattle Grind, Friday, 19 March 2010 17:38 (fourteen years ago) link

well, the wedding is only a month away, obviously this is a looming emergency.

DarraghmacKwacz (darraghmac), Friday, 19 March 2010 17:40 (fourteen years ago) link

this is way the fuck upthread at this point - but "wildly inappropriate conversations" in the office are my reason d'etre.
especially mid-meeting.
it is the funnest thing ever and i will never stop. ever.

The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Friday, 19 March 2010 19:32 (fourteen years ago) link

thank you, co-worker, for taking a dump, blocking the toilet, making no attempt to fix the situation OR let anyone else know to come fix it for you (how fucking hard is it to use a plunger???).

just1n3, Friday, 19 March 2010 20:37 (fourteen years ago) link

currently two ladies beside me are ringing around to see if anybody has a 'child of prague' idol that they can decapitate

Is this some kind of catholic thing? o_0

ABBAcab (Trayce), Sunday, 21 March 2010 00:25 (fourteen years ago) link

it's 'some kind' of catholic thing (at least i'm pretty sure a child of prague is an idol of the infant christ) mixed with some kind of hedge witch thing. a mix that's fairly common out where i'm at.

DarraghmacKwacz (darraghmac), Sunday, 21 March 2010 04:06 (fourteen years ago) link

Someone at my last job used to complain about women leaving "menstrual blood" in the toilets. Turned out it was the red Toilet Duck the cleaners used.

Male or female complainer?

ned ragú (suzy), Sunday, 21 March 2010 22:41 (fourteen years ago) link

In Ireland some brides will place an Infant of Prague statue outside their house the night before their wedding. This is meant to ensure that there will be good weather for the wedding day.[citation needed]

sock for injustice and evil (onimo), Monday, 22 March 2010 12:53 (fourteen years ago) link

http://irishherault.wordpress.com/2009/07/03/infants-of-prague/

"Tradition had it that the Infant of Prague worked better without the head, so you were only delighted when your mam decapitated yours, years ago when she was cleaning."

Never heard of any of this in my life, my ancestors left a lot of tradition behind in the old country.

sock for injustice and evil (onimo), Monday, 22 March 2010 12:56 (fourteen years ago) link

If only there were a place people could look up such information. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infant_Jesus_of_Prague

ned ragú (suzy), Monday, 22 March 2010 13:16 (fourteen years ago) link

So, its kind of f-ed up when the thing I'm looking forward to least about Monday morning is dealing with my annoying co-worker, isn't it?

Clerk all KNOWIN (B.L.A.M.), Monday, 22 March 2010 13:38 (fourteen years ago) link

We have a problem with half our IT dept being split between London & Brighton, with all sorts of related political and ideological differences.

The latest is that the Brighton developers are for some reason incapable of working with NULL values in databases, so we have to add "dummy" entries with an ID of 0 so we can set all the NULL values to 0 and still have a foreign key constraint on our tables. This won't mean much to non-relational database people but rest assured is completely fucking retarded.

Colonel Poo, Monday, 22 March 2010 17:48 (fourteen years ago) link

wait, what the hell

big time (HI DERE), Monday, 22 March 2010 17:50 (fourteen years ago) link

My manager went straight to the CTO saying we shouldn't do this but was shot down.

The head of Brighton IT is a total moron but somehow has a lot of clout with the business. This is just the latest in a long line of completely stupid decisions...

Colonel Poo, Monday, 22 March 2010 17:53 (fourteen years ago) link

Male or female complainer?

Male. The toilets are unisex.

Poo: dontcha love when decisions get made out of someone's sheer inability...no...REFUSAL to learn how to do it the right way?

Where's Mexican Waldo? (Cattle Grind), Monday, 22 March 2010 23:28 (fourteen years ago) link

If only there were a place people could look up such information. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infant_Jesus_of_Prague

― ned ragú (suzy),

I quote a wikipedia article and you tell me to look up the wikipedia article I quoted :/
The article doesn't mention decapitation, that's why I went on to find another one. Telling people to look up stuff they've just looked up = a+ zinging

I'm not Tuomas ffs (onimo), Tuesday, 23 March 2010 00:02 (fourteen years ago) link

[citation needed] is usually a telltale sign

nakhchivan, Tuesday, 23 March 2010 00:04 (fourteen years ago) link

Sorry Onimo for some reason I did not even see your post, was replying to DM.

ned ragú (suzy), Tuesday, 23 March 2010 00:55 (fourteen years ago) link

let's bitch at our stupid, annoying co-posters

The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Tuesday, 23 March 2010 01:23 (fourteen years ago) link

eh if i were posting as some sort of omniscient expert on the subject this might be a thing. but i saw this at work, it was strange (i don't think the existence of a wikipedia article would necessarily change that) and pretty annoying behaviour from two annoying co-workers.

?

DarraghmacKwacz (darraghmac), Tuesday, 23 March 2010 09:31 (fourteen years ago) link

no worries Suzy :)

think I'm getting a bit tetchy on here, might be time for a sabbatical.

I'm not Tuomas ffs (onimo), Tuesday, 23 March 2010 12:21 (fourteen years ago) link

People at my place are either starting to play dumb, or are becoming mental midgets fast.

Yesterday I'm assigned research to determine, among other things, why a specific item was not mailed to a customer. In the end, my research determined that the person responsible for mailing the item was the person that requested the research, a fact that was documented in a very obvious manner had she bothered to look.

Wouldn't you think that even if the name didn't ring a bell, you'd at least double check to make sure it wasn't your responsibility first before wasting someone else's time? This is a frequent occurrence!

Usain Bolt Cola (Cattle Grind), Friday, 26 March 2010 22:42 (fourteen years ago) link

ever since my boss got married, he's scatterbrained as hell. forgets to send me invites, doesn't reply to emails or messages, is unresponsive to everyone (including a poor coworker who tried to ask him three times to get a laptop so she could work from home while nursing her poor husband back to health)...it wouldn't bother me so much if he didn't give us all the speech about how we shouldn't be letting personal lives affect work.

he also interrupts people in the middle of sentences all of the time so if you haven't made your complete point in three words, forget it...you'll never get to finish it.

Phoenix in Flight (Cattle Grind), Wednesday, 7 April 2010 02:53 (fourteen years ago) link

realized today that i work at the mexican version of jersey shore

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 7 April 2010 03:00 (fourteen years ago) link

lol

Phoenix in Flight (Cattle Grind), Wednesday, 7 April 2010 03:00 (fourteen years ago) link

club hounds who come in hungover on tuesday, a totally closeted bodybuilder, way too much eyeliner, and constant drama regarding guys i've never seen named "mike" and "julio" with regard to which of the two of them has texted most recently

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 7 April 2010 03:01 (fourteen years ago) link

we had two co-workers arrested on site for something I can't really specifically mention but it involved conspiracy for fraud

Phoenix in Flight (Cattle Grind), Wednesday, 7 April 2010 03:10 (fourteen years ago) link

last week that is

Phoenix in Flight (Cattle Grind), Wednesday, 7 April 2010 03:10 (fourteen years ago) link

I got a companywide email today announcing that all employees now get a free chiropractic adjustment every month. Wonderful. I still haven't gotten the salary and benefits I was told I would qualify for over three months ago, so it still costs me $250 a month to maintain access to a real doctor, but thank goodness I no longer have to worry about the dread SUBLUXATIONS.

a black white asian pine ghost who is fake (Telephone thing), Wednesday, 7 April 2010 03:27 (fourteen years ago) link

they can't deny you benefits if you qualify per plan provisions. that'd be an ERISA violation. have you not gotten the benefits because they simply haven't mailed you anything, or did you attempt to enroll and were you told you couldn't?

if they impede you too much in getting what you were promised, you can always go to the Department of Labor.

Phoenix in Flight (Cattle Grind), Wednesday, 7 April 2010 03:32 (fourteen years ago) link

This is a tiny company (12 people) and the promise wasn't in any formal context, just a "oh hey, you've been here a while, how about we set you up with salary and benefits if you make it through the holidays alive."

a black white asian pine ghost who is fake (Telephone thing), Wednesday, 7 April 2010 03:39 (fourteen years ago) link

"setting you up" w/ a salary is kinda important iirc

ksh, Wednesday, 7 April 2010 03:40 (fourteen years ago) link

xpost I see. Regardless of the size, though, if the company offers insurance through ERISA and the employees pay for it on a before-tax basis, they can't merely drop the ball like that or they can risk losing the ability to offer before-tax benefits. I'm sure you're probably not trying to rock the boat, but I'd be like raising holy hell over it. they have to give you at least a 31 day enrollment period too.

Phoenix in Flight (Cattle Grind), Wednesday, 7 April 2010 03:44 (fourteen years ago) link

I'm starting to get worried my job is turning to me into an Angry Man.

I can't seem to get through a day here without getting into a strop about something, F'ing and blinding etc.

What do you do when it seems like 80% of the people you have to deal with at work are incompetent? I've been here 4 years which is the longest I've ever worked anywhere and I think it's probably at least a year too long. This team seems to spend most of its time lately tidying up other people's mistakes and working on what is probably the most badly managed "upgrade" project I have ever worked on.

I just got my wife a job at this company as well, haha. I get an "introduce a friend" bonus when she's been here 2 months, at this point I think I'm going to hand my notice in the day after that cheque clears.

Argh.

Colonel Poo, Wednesday, 7 April 2010 14:51 (fourteen years ago) link

i find that when i'm getting all pissy about everything it's probably time for a break. when was your last vacation?

The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Wednesday, 7 April 2010 14:58 (fourteen years ago) link

Funnily enough we are going on holiday next month. That will help, but I still have to get through 4 weeks without getting fired for calling a manager a cunt.

Colonel Poo, Wednesday, 7 April 2010 15:00 (fourteen years ago) link

well - try to send your thoughts towards wherever you're off too. even knowing you'll be getting away soon can help.
how long, btw? two weeks?

The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Wednesday, 7 April 2010 15:06 (fourteen years ago) link

Yep, we're off to L.A.! Woohoo! Actually I feel better already. Thanks :)

Colonel Poo, Wednesday, 7 April 2010 15:12 (fourteen years ago) link

srsly MICROSOFT OFFICE COMMUNICATOR

morelike microsoft monitor ur subordinates working hrs..

wilter, Monday, 12 April 2010 08:04 (fourteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Two things:

1. Our department is big on tracking work (presumably so bigwigs can cut our headcount later down the line if they think we're "slow"), which makes sense. It's used to determine the projected hours we work on tickets we open in a database. Sometimes it gets to be ridiculous. The project I'm on now may take me 40-60 hours to complete. Because of teh stupid archaic way we have to create tickets for this project, it will likely take me 4-6 hours just to create them (during which time I of course can't get any real work done). I've spoken up a million times about the process being bad and made other suggestions but they fall on deaf ears.

2. This guy in our dept is nice but overcommits to things, then makes mistakes as a result of being overwhelmed. He was in charge of doing an editorial review of documetns we were passing onto a client. he did this with a partner. turns out he made 33 mistakes -- 40% of the items we sent over had to be redone. FUCKING USELESS.

Sherman Helmsley Teabag (Cattle Grind), Wednesday, 5 May 2010 03:05 (fourteen years ago) link

lady who I never talk to but who walks around with a janitor's ring of keys - I love you and you are absolutely fine otherwise but that ring of keys has got to go imo

retarded candle burning at both ends (dyao), Tuesday, 18 May 2010 13:28 (thirteen years ago) link

Is she a janitor?

nickn, Tuesday, 18 May 2010 23:19 (thirteen years ago) link

no

retarded candle burning at both ends (dyao), Wednesday, 19 May 2010 00:24 (thirteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

"Okay, I've acknowledged your opinion Sean, but I don't think you're being really considerate of my feelings"

The guy my boss recently hired to directly supervise me, arguing with my boss about some shit that's completely set in stone since way before he got here. If you ignore my proofreading comments, yes, expect Sean to ignore your feelings, dick.

― kingkongvsgodzilla, Wednesday, July 8, 2009 9:36 PM (10 months ago) Bookmark

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Oh man, dude, we're cool and all, but stop exclaiming "FUDGE!" when something upsets you. Every two hours or so.

― kingkongvsgodzilla, Wednesday, November 4, 2009 11:50 AM (6 months ago) Bookmark

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Part of my job is to screen potential donors for our non-profit organization. My coworker and I usually field requests for this information from the front-line fundraising staff, who may have heard about a person's name from a news story or had it suggested to them by another donor or something.

Whenever a name comes down the line that my coworker thinks would be unable to make a major gift, he dismisses them as "b1g n0b0dies" - e.g. "Look out, we've got another b1g n0b0dy coming through"; "I don't understand why they keep sending us all these b1g n0b0dies".

It's rude as hell. However much money these people make, they are always serious professionals with much higher caliber careers than he has.

(googleproofed because he says it so much it's like a catchphrase)

― kingkongvsgodzilla, Wednesday, December 16, 2009 11:59 AM (5 months ago) Bookmark

Okay, so today the director of my group pulled me aside and let me know that I would be reporting directly to him, rather than this guy referenced above. The guy has so many "personality conflicts" with the rest of our coworkers that I'll be taking over all duties from our team that involve interacting with other people.

I found this out at the end of the day today, so I can't imagine how awkward things are going to be tomorrow, but I'd like to add to the collection this choice catch-phrase, which has become more commmon as of late:

"I think I need to be on Xanax or something!"

Otherwise you're kinda being comp-lit in his racism. (kkvgz), Friday, 4 June 2010 02:46 (thirteen years ago) link

congrats? (will they pay you more?)

The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Friday, 4 June 2010 02:53 (thirteen years ago) link

convince him that "orsom theeng" is tagalog for "a fungo bat to the head"

Grisly Addams (WmC), Friday, 4 June 2010 03:05 (thirteen years ago) link

i hate them all, apart from ian and john

ffs, stop speaking at a zillion miles an hour please

Don't look at the finger (Ste), Tuesday, 8 June 2010 08:38 (thirteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

M.A., I know you're a nervous sort, a jabberer and an interrupter, but YOU WILL NEVER FIND OUT THE ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION IF YOU DON'T SHUT UP.

Grisly Addams (WmC), Thursday, 24 June 2010 12:51 (thirteen years ago) link

We've got a snorter in the office. Turns my fucking stomach umpteen times a day.
He also does that horrible cough thing that gets out of control and ends up with phlegm being chewed and swallowed.

WHO HAS THE PHALLUS? Not you (onimo), Thursday, 24 June 2010 12:55 (thirteen years ago) link

How can somebody sneeze SEVERAL TIMES A DAY EVERY DAY for MONTHS???? YEARS EVEN???????????????

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 24 June 2010 12:56 (thirteen years ago) link

not ONE person in my office can laugh like a normal person, or in fact laugh at anything REMOTELY funny

Guru Meditation (Ste), Thursday, 24 June 2010 13:00 (thirteen years ago) link

Here's a peeve that I would never have as a pet. It's straight out of the movie "Office Space", really. Someone explains something to you, and it's simple and clear, and you understand and repeat the instructions back so that everyone understands that everyone understands. But then there are certain people who cannot walk away without quickly summarizing the interaction for you again. Real-life example:

designer lady: "When you look at the Photoshop file, you can see these subheaders are actually grey. That's a different header style."

me: "Ah, I missed that. Thank you. So I need to take out the h3, and replace them with h4 tags."

her: "That's exactly right."

(one comedy beat)

her: "So if you could please just make the page look like the Photoshop file, that would be better."

GAHHHH! You just said that! I understood it! You know I understood it! You understood perfectly how well I understood it! You said so! What is it with you and having the last word PLUS the next to last word?

kenan, Friday, 25 June 2010 17:49 (thirteen years ago) link

also the tic of saying "if you could do (x) then..." and no one who has this tic knows what to say next so they just end with "uh that would really great". it's a construction that allows them to avoid feeling like they've just told you what to do, which is in fact what they've done

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Friday, 25 June 2010 17:58 (thirteen years ago) link

I have both of these on the (very rare) occasions I get to tell anyone else to do

feel faintly ridiculous with the "...uh then that would be great thanks" because it makes it sound like the task is not necessary or useful, just something I would find pleasing to look at after its needless completion

desperate urge to fill the silence when realising I have run out of new things to say and am not really confidently businesslike enough to declare the talking over

atoms breaking heart (a passing spacecadet), Friday, 25 June 2010 18:05 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah, I'm sure that most of the time it's just a bit of padding for the end of the interaction, but it can come across as a need to exercise one last bit of authority, whether further instruction is needed or not. It's not that it's unnecessary, it's that it's officious.

kenan, Friday, 25 June 2010 18:13 (thirteen years ago) link

please don't fucking tell me how desperate you are for hours, only to turn down 4 out of 5 shifts offered to you AND try to take a bunch of time off during one of our busiest months when there are 4 fucking staff already on holiday.

this isn't even directed at just one annoying coworker but FUCKING TWO OF THEM. gah.

just1n3, Saturday, 26 June 2010 00:39 (thirteen years ago) link

ENTIRE DAY GETTING ASSBUTTED BY GIANT SMELLY BLIND WOMAN GOD I HATE LINE WORK KILLME OMG DON'T EVEN GET ME STARTED ON DUDE WHO SNIFFS BRAS

tru oyster kvlt (arby's), Monday, 28 June 2010 23:24 (thirteen years ago) link

We've got a snorter in the office. Turns my fucking stomach umpteen times a day.
He also does that horrible cough thing that gets out of control and ends up with phlegm being chewed and swallowed.

UGGGHHH this is one of my most loathed things ever. Seems to be common among SE Asian ppl for some reason, mayb a cultural thing I dunno. A taxi driver did it the other day while driving me home - horked up a gob, wound down his window and hocked it out. BLEUGH. DONT GIVE ME YOUR PLEURISY YOU FUCK.

C.R.E.P.E (Trayce), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 03:28 (thirteen years ago) link

A bunch of stupid stuff happened today, just like most days, but this one takes the cake:

We're all having a reaaaally busy day (long boring story, but right now, where I work, is sorta like April 14th at the IRS). Everyone's a bit stressed out, and we're all overloaded with meetings. We only have about 20 minutes for lunch before another meeting at 12:30. At 12:28, I run back to my desk and start chugging a Subway sandwich so my stomach doesn't growl for the rest of the afternoon. Just as I'm about to fiiiinally take a bite, my stupid, annoying co-worker comes in and goes "I'm soooo hungry!" and just watches me bite into it. I offer him half my sandwich, even though I'm really hungry and I pretty much want all of it. He asks what's on it and I say "it's a veggie patty". He rolls his eyes and starts complaining and talking about how it'll be embarrassing if someone finds out he ate a veggie sandwich, and within about 15 seconds, no shit, he's saying "I'm doing you a favor, buddy. I'm doing you a favor, eating this...ewwwww....god, you owe me".

HE'S EATING HALF MY SANDWICH THAT I GAVE TO HIM EVEN THOUGH I'M STARVING AND COMPLAINING ABOUT THE INGREDIENTS, AND SAYING I OWE HIM!

http://i48.tinypic.com/i3ufsg.jpg
^me 2 1/2 minutes later

lil' (Z S), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 03:30 (thirteen years ago) link

LOL. I would have taken the other half of sammich and smooshed it into his gob.

C.R.E.P.E (Trayce), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 03:32 (thirteen years ago) link

i seriously would have told him to stfu and not eat it then. what is with people?!

The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Wednesday, 30 June 2010 03:55 (thirteen years ago) link

I did! I told him "you're eating my sandwich, I don't owe you!" but he just laughed and walked away and said "you owe me, buddy, I'm doing you a favor, ewww"

lil' (Z S), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 03:58 (thirteen years ago) link

WTH.

C.R.E.P.E (Trayce), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 04:01 (thirteen years ago) link

Oh god that sucks, but speaking as a vegetarian who eats at subway, their veggie patties are garbage. Better off just getting a cheese sandwich with a ton of real veggies on it.

kkvgz, Wednesday, 30 June 2010 10:40 (thirteen years ago) link

Or a pizza.

kkvgz, Wednesday, 30 June 2010 10:45 (thirteen years ago) link

Boss is rarely in the office all day, she is today, she is intensely annoying

Oracle Crackers (Tom D.), Thursday, 8 July 2010 13:45 (thirteen years ago) link

Shut up shut up shut up shut up.

(directed at coworker, not Tom D.)

kkvgz, Thursday, 8 July 2010 13:54 (thirteen years ago) link

Wow - just topped yourself by pronouncing "Ian" as "Eye-an."

kkvgz, Thursday, 8 July 2010 14:02 (thirteen years ago) link

Ha ha, getouttahere!

Oracle Crackers (Tom D.), Thursday, 8 July 2010 14:03 (thirteen years ago) link

Fucksake, I can't do two things at once, who d'you think I am, the Orakel-Krake?

Oracle Crackers (Tom D.), Thursday, 8 July 2010 14:08 (thirteen years ago) link

i quit my job last week to do freelance work. there were several factors that played into this decision, but when i'm reeeeeally honest with myself, i know it's because of that mind-numbingly, soul-crushingly garrulous woman i've complained about several times on this thread. i will never again have to hear about her mucus, her bowels, husband's hatred of dentists, her hip imbalance, her World of Warcraft guild, how much she hates it when she wakes 5 min before her alarm goes off, how her legs are really long (they're not) and her torso is really short (fat), BUT her husbands legs are really short and his torso is so v long, her cats' bowels, or HER @!#$^#@ FAITH IN THE LORD OMG

mere words really can't do justice the heaviness that has been lifted from soul.

easiest lay on the White House lawn → (will), Thursday, 8 July 2010 14:09 (thirteen years ago) link

and i will never, ever be subjected to her coffee-slurping again. seriously guys, i could almost cry.

easiest lay on the White House lawn → (will), Thursday, 8 July 2010 14:12 (thirteen years ago) link

i would go freelance murderer tbh

,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Thursday, 8 July 2010 14:13 (thirteen years ago) link

iirc the dude from 90210 pronounced his name eye-an

oh shit a ◕‿‿◕ (sic), Thursday, 8 July 2010 14:25 (thirteen years ago) link

ian rand

congratulations (n/a), Thursday, 8 July 2010 14:27 (thirteen years ago) link

how much she hates it when she wakes 5 min before her alarm goes off

tbf this is really annoying.

before my job went bye bye I usually had a big office to myself despite being a lowly admin assistant (boss working from home). I'd bet those'll soon be times I look back on with much longing.

stand under Eljero Elia, Elia, Elia (Merdeyeux), Thursday, 8 July 2010 14:30 (thirteen years ago) link

I feel accomplished when I wake up 5 mins before my alarm goes off

iatee, Thursday, 8 July 2010 14:31 (thirteen years ago) link

tbf this is really annoying.

get one Sleep Cycle

oh shit a ◕‿‿◕ (sic), Thursday, 8 July 2010 14:33 (thirteen years ago) link

I would if my phone wasn't about ten years old!

I do, however, love when I wake about fifteen minutes before my alarm, just enough time to add a micronap to your night's sleep.

hey btw because I don't have a job any more I'm going to spend all of my time here playing the role of an annoying co-worker.

stand under Eljero Elia, Elia, Elia (Merdeyeux), Thursday, 8 July 2010 14:37 (thirteen years ago) link

co-workers didn't get suspended after 51 votes.

,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Thursday, 8 July 2010 14:49 (thirteen years ago) link

?

The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Thursday, 8 July 2010 15:04 (thirteen years ago) link

is this some sort of office survivor?

The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Thursday, 8 July 2010 15:04 (thirteen years ago) link

I feel accomplished when I wake up 5 mins before my alarm goes off
― iatee, Thursday, July 8, 2010 9:31 AM

^^^ this!

The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Thursday, 8 July 2010 15:05 (thirteen years ago) link

Christ, shut UP woman. Is it just how people speak in hindi anyway, or are you honestly someone who speaks incredibly rapidly and without taking a breath for 15 minutes at a stretch? Seriously, its like listening to an auctioneer.

Its like a little yammering radio batting constantly at my ears. AARRGH *puts on headphones*.

Gumbercules (Trayce), Monday, 12 July 2010 04:18 (thirteen years ago) link

Pronounces bodega as "BO-dega" and seems really pleased with himself everytime he says the word, which is about once a day: "I'm going down to the BO-dega *pause* to get a bag of chips."

And I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure a convenience store is not even called a bodega if it's not owned by Puerto Ricans and it's not in NYC?

kkvgz, Monday, 12 July 2010 12:25 (thirteen years ago) link

Also fuck you because every time you say it, I get "Diamonds on the Soles of Her Shoes" stuck in my head.


And she said honey take me dancing
But they ended up by sleeping in a doorway
By the bodegas and the lights on upper broadway
Wearing diamonds on the soles of their shoes

kkvgz, Monday, 12 July 2010 12:45 (thirteen years ago) link

office mate at my new gig speaks about 5 times a day. and what he says is typically funny. it's so great :) :) :)

srsly the last 2 years are like a really bad dream

easiest lay on the White House lawn → (will), Monday, 12 July 2010 13:40 (thirteen years ago) link

Yikes, now the endlessly talking accounts lady is sitting at her desk crying. Always so awkward :/

Gumbercules (Trayce), Wednesday, 14 July 2010 00:01 (thirteen years ago) link

she just read this thread and that's why she's crying, trayce. that's why.

my cock is a spiral ham (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 14 July 2010 03:47 (thirteen years ago) link

OH GOD DONT SAY THAT TO ME.

Gumbercules (Trayce), Wednesday, 14 July 2010 03:57 (thirteen years ago) link

haha that is so mean

Fee Fie Fo, FUNFNFUINFLFF! (HI DERE), Wednesday, 14 July 2010 16:59 (thirteen years ago) link

classic suggestion

Everytime I hit 'submit post' the internet gets dumber (darraghmac), Wednesday, 14 July 2010 17:13 (thirteen years ago) link

UGGGHHH this is one of my most loathed things ever. Seems to be common among SE Asian ppl for some reason, mayb a cultural thing I dunno. A taxi driver did it the other day while driving me home - horked up a gob, wound down his window and hocked it out. BLEUGH. DONT GIVE ME YOUR PLEURISY YOU FUCK.

just to say some people have really fucked up phlegm issues they can't help, i have phlegm in my throat non stop...i have to do this sometimes cos it's hard to breathe otherwise! i don't ever spit it out or whatever in public but i do the hocking noise wherever i can most get away with it.

I see what this is (Local Garda), Wednesday, 14 July 2010 23:03 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah I guess thats a fair point :(

Gumbercules (Trayce), Wednesday, 14 July 2010 23:28 (thirteen years ago) link

no need to feel bad, i was just repping for my phlegm brothers.

I see what this is (Local Garda), Wednesday, 14 July 2010 23:30 (thirteen years ago) link

The guy at my place makes a point of doing it as loudly as possible and saying things like "that was a good one" so I think it's fair to say he's a stupid annoying dick. Some of your brothers in phlegm are giving you a bad name.

embrace the flopping? no thanks (onimo), Thursday, 15 July 2010 09:20 (thirteen years ago) link

"I was telling my sixteen-year-old niece, I said "When you grow up, you can do anything you want. You can eat Gummi Bears and Mountain Dewbfor lunch every day, like I do. It's great!" Guy is 30 years old and has a beachball physique. He was trying to convince me to go try out a frozen yogurt stand for lunch.

kkvgz, Friday, 16 July 2010 10:56 (thirteen years ago) link

Maybe he plans on eating the whole stand.

ninjas and lasers and gold and (snoball), Friday, 16 July 2010 11:00 (thirteen years ago) link

I mean, no wonder he has emotional problems and can't get along with people.

kkvgz, Friday, 16 July 2010 11:08 (thirteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Actual email I just received:

Hi - via the new report what does true and false mean?

Sent from my iPhone

Do I just send her a link to dictionary.com? How is it possible to answer this without being patronising/condescending?

a fucking stove just fell on my foot. (Colonel Poo), Tuesday, 10 August 2010 09:49 (thirteen years ago) link

context is everything

"It's far from 'loi' you were reared, boy" (darraghmac), Tuesday, 10 August 2010 10:47 (thirteen years ago) link

True enough, I can't even see anywhere on the report I assume she is talking about where it says true or false.

I just emailed her back asking for more information...

a fucking stove just fell on my foot. (Colonel Poo), Tuesday, 10 August 2010 10:56 (thirteen years ago) link

pending confirmation of idiocy so

"It's far from 'loi' you were reared, boy" (darraghmac), Tuesday, 10 August 2010 11:49 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm more annoyed by the ham-handed use of "via." What the hell is that?

no gut busting joke can change history (Jenny), Tuesday, 10 August 2010 12:17 (thirteen years ago) link

Bet they meant "vis a vis".

more lunacy and witchcraft! (kkvgz), Tuesday, 10 August 2010 12:19 (thirteen years ago) link

I have a coworker whom I quite like who always uses "vice" instead of "versus" as in "I think we should have the meeting over lunch vice having it after hours." I'm guessing it's some corruption of "vice versa."

no gut busting joke can change history (Jenny), Tuesday, 10 August 2010 12:23 (thirteen years ago) link

So, I had a terrible day at work yesterday thanks to a couple of stupid annoying coworkers. It's much too long and dry to get into, but involved them requesting extra (and by all accounts unneccessary) work from me after I had already given them a stellar product.

The level of dipshittery involved:

The initial product that I gave them had been pulled together from a list of people who had already donated money to our organization, and who they had specifically asked me to look at for that reason. The request for additional info included the following as one of its many criteria: "[organization name] giving history, if any."

more lunacy and witchcraft! (kkvgz), Tuesday, 10 August 2010 12:26 (thirteen years ago) link

Bet they meant "vis a vis".

― more lunacy and witchcraft! (kkvgz), Tuesday, August 10, 2010 12:19 PM (8 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

vis a vis how "i.e." is always used incorrectly instead of "e.g." [/pedant]

yeah whatever (whatever), Tuesday, 10 August 2010 21:04 (thirteen years ago) link

In contractual negotiations you really have to watch muddling up i.e. (the things you name are ALL you are referring to) vs e.g. (the things you name are just some of what you're referring to). Use the former when you mean the latter and you're screwed.

Mark C, Wednesday, 11 August 2010 17:27 (thirteen years ago) link

from an advertiser making his 5th round of changes (in one 12 hr period):

"Ok....here we go....and don't roll your eyes at me. I know I'm an anal retentive freak. I try to convince people that it's part of my charm! (of which I'm routinely accused of having none).

[...] [four paragraphs describing changes]

And I SWEAR this is it. I'm just on a word pruning spree. Maybe it's cause too many people talk too long to me at work all day, but I'm subscribing to the belief that "less is more" at the moment.

Thanks, Sorry, and all that jazz. I owe you a beer."

Kind of familiar...

My totem animal is a hamburger. (WmC), Wednesday, 11 August 2010 18:39 (thirteen years ago) link

ah yes. the magical "beer", that while never showing up is somehow supposed to make everything ok.

oreo speed wiggum (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 11 August 2010 19:11 (thirteen years ago) link

hahaha, yeah.

The "lol, ain't I a stinker?" writing style reminded me of someone...I almost wrote back "kid, why don't I just temp-ban you now and save us both a lot of trouble..."

My totem animal is a hamburger. (WmC), Wednesday, 11 August 2010 19:17 (thirteen years ago) link

If I had every beer I've ever been "owed" I'd be, er, very drunk...

Les centimètres énigmatiques (snoball), Wednesday, 11 August 2010 19:19 (thirteen years ago) link

One thing positive I will say about where I currently work is that I have been bought at least 6 beers for doing things for people. It helps that one of them is one of my regular work drinking buddies tho.

a fucking stove just fell on my foot. (Colonel Poo), Wednesday, 11 August 2010 19:21 (thirteen years ago) link

Oh man I am so guilty of the insincere beer offer at work... I'm going to go sit quietly and think about what I've done.

Jenny, Wednesday, 11 August 2010 19:25 (thirteen years ago) link

In 100% of cases, a beer is not what I want from an advertiser. I want an "ok to print."

My totem animal is a hamburger. (WmC), Wednesday, 11 August 2010 19:28 (thirteen years ago) link

I love when people like that, especially if you are in face to face contact with em, realize you're pissed and go either "Are you mad at me?" or "By now I'm sure you're pissed off at me" as they expect you to say "nawwwwwwww, it's ok" but it's impossible to withhold your disgust. I quit trying.

plate of dinosaurs (San Te), Wednesday, 11 August 2010 19:31 (thirteen years ago) link

I tell people they owe ME a beer, frequently. Sick of doing favours for everyone at work.

Mr Bungleow (Trayce), Thursday, 12 August 2010 00:59 (thirteen years ago) link

Can confirm that it's pronounced bo-dega. how the fuck else?

paulhw, Thursday, 12 August 2010 01:41 (thirteen years ago) link

I never got an answer from true/false woman. I assume she worked it out herself!

a fucking stove just fell on my foot. (Colonel Poo), Thursday, 12 August 2010 15:44 (thirteen years ago) link

I got through 3 1/2 years of my job before blowing up and walking off the job (for a while). Yay me.

WARS OF ARMAGEDDON (Karaoke Version) (Sparkle Motion), Friday, 13 August 2010 01:47 (thirteen years ago) link

entire server goes down at work today and tech people give us a workaround, telling us we can check our email by using a replica of our mailbox.

..........

REPLICAS REQUIRE THAT THE SERVER THAT YOU HAVE THE REPLICA ON WORKS, AND THEY ARE ALL DOWN. AND, TO ADD INSULT TO INJURY, IF YOUR PROGRAM WAS CLOSED OUT FOR ANY REASON, YOU CAN'T GET TO THE SCREEN WHERE YOU REQUEST THE REPLICA.

fucking idiots. it's like telling someone to FTP a patch when they call to say their Internet is out.

plate of dinosaurs (San Te), Friday, 13 August 2010 02:22 (thirteen years ago) link

Our IT dept's favorite trick is to insist that we submit a help request via email when we call because we can't connect to the network/the computer won't start, etc.

Jenny, Friday, 13 August 2010 13:17 (thirteen years ago) link

The IT MANAGER actually kept telling me that he couldn't do anything until I submitted a help ticket when I called to explain that my monitor had shuffled off its mortal coil and I was unable to access anything or do any of the deadline driven, time sensitive work that comprises my job duties. I finally got him to understand the dilemma I faced, and explained that I had a deadline and could not work at all, and three hours later, he sent a tech over to bring me a new monitor. In the meantime, I finished my book. Thanks, tax payers!

Jenny, Friday, 13 August 2010 13:20 (thirteen years ago) link

Can confirm that it's pronounced bo-dega. how the fuck else?

― paulhw, Wednesday, August 11, 2010 9:41 PM (2 days ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

I would pronounce it bo-DE-ga, but he's started doing this recently too.

r.i.p. soup (kkvgz), Friday, 13 August 2010 13:23 (thirteen years ago) link

boddy-ga

"It's far from 'loi' you were reared, boy" (darraghmac), Friday, 13 August 2010 13:27 (thirteen years ago) link

I finally got a reply from true/false woman, edited for anonymity:

"if you tick no states false. So does false mean we haven't "xxxx blah blah blah" and true mean we have?

What do you reckon?

a fucking stove just fell on my foot. (Colonel Poo), Saturday, 14 August 2010 03:09 (thirteen years ago) link

OK wow, what the heck, how does this woman get dressed of a morning?!

Mr Bungleow (Trayce), Saturday, 14 August 2010 11:26 (thirteen years ago) link

STATEMENT 1: Statement 2 is true
STATEMENT 2: Statement 1 is false

Les centimètres énigmatiques (snoball), Saturday, 14 August 2010 11:35 (thirteen years ago) link

this one dept we use makes mistake after mistake, but if they make one to report it to em we have to fill out a stupid ticket rather than the old system where we'd open the original ticket. screw that -- you open the ticket after I report it to you by reopening the old issue. or stop making mistakes. uRHGGGGGGGGGHHHH.

plate of dinosaurs (San Te), Tuesday, 17 August 2010 17:25 (thirteen years ago) link

Actually if you actually use the word 'actually' one more time I might actually scream, actually.

a harshbuzz to my manpain (onimo), Tuesday, 24 August 2010 15:09 (thirteen years ago) link

i had a co worker that got promoted to being my boss (when i had my job) and um, whenever he'd talk he'd, ummmmm - in meetings and stuff - just um say "umm" waaay too much. i asked him to try to not do it before a conference call once, to no avail. i always thought it sounded unprofessional and i was worried it might give vendors an impression we had no idea what we were doing. oh well.

oreo speed wiggum (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 24 August 2010 15:36 (thirteen years ago) link

why is it that when someone gives you an instruction, whether verbally or written, and you don't follow it as written, you get called out for it (and rightfully so)...but when the tables are turned, and when you've not only provided written instructions, but held a meeting prior to discuss these expectations, and the person still does it wrong, oh they acknowledge the instructions were there but "I'm sorry, I've been so busy, I guess I overlooked it".

No no no no no...if I don't get to use that excuse, neither do you. Nor is it an excuse I ever would use as it's ridiculous.

the day the Marc Lois took over (San Te), Tuesday, 24 August 2010 15:54 (thirteen years ago) link

"omg they should make a reality show out of our office!"

"make that funny noise / do your impression of coworker x!"

a man without his raincoat (another al3x), Tuesday, 24 August 2010 19:35 (thirteen years ago) link

I've grown to accept that my coworkers will have the worst sense of humor known to man and will only be able to speak in pop culture references

the day the Marc Lois took over (San Te), Tuesday, 24 August 2010 19:51 (thirteen years ago) link

How to liven up tedious conference calls with dull people (only works if you are alone in your office at the time):

Load up one of those sound effect search engines (http://www.findsounds.com/ etc) and then find and play random noises during the call. It completely derails things in a way that makes the meeting bearable.

The one time I don't do the dishes, I get ebola! (James Morrison), Wednesday, 25 August 2010 00:11 (thirteen years ago) link

don't give me ideas dude, lol

ý never promýsed you a Weingarten (San Te), Wednesday, 25 August 2010 00:14 (thirteen years ago) link

Hi, thank you for telling a manager that you thought the project would be held up by me not sending you files fast enough when I've sent you everything you asked for by the deadlines you gave; sure the next stage is threatening to be a massive disaster, but not cz I can't perform my job description of getting data out of the database and into spreadsheets, more because the people who are meant to put the data in the database in the first place have spent the past 20 years not doing so

note to future data monkeys: just give them the sparse and useless information in the database and then stick yr fingers in your ears and go "ain't my lookout" instead of pointing out the shortcomings and trying to discuss ways round them, because asking questions is just heel-dragging, and by querying anything you accept responsibility for everything that might go wrong

vampire headphase (a passing spacecadet), Thursday, 26 August 2010 11:10 (thirteen years ago) link

you just described a lot of pain points I experience, too. feel ya :/

funky brewster (San Te), Thursday, 26 August 2010 12:28 (thirteen years ago) link

"See, I can’t watch exorcism movies because I’m a lapsed Catholic. Halloween's scary because it's plausible. A guy could escape from the mental hospital and go around hacking everybody up! A guy who invades your dreams? Who’s been dead? Not plausible. But your soul being possessed by Satan? Plausible.”

olivia dremel control (kkvgz), Tuesday, 7 September 2010 14:36 (thirteen years ago) link

you should hum in latin at your desk, and do weird physical rituals daily. then one day, up the ante by making a fake Necronomicon and leaving it at your desk when you go to lunch.

then have a fake phone conversation one day saying "no, it HAS TO BE A VIRGIN, he won't accept it otherwise....." then mumble indecipherably.

funky brewster (San Te), Tuesday, 7 September 2010 16:40 (thirteen years ago) link

I volunteer to do some work this week for someone else as I am ahead of schedule on another project. It comes in, I'm happy cuz it's not difficult and will keep me busy this week. I begin to look at what I'm given, and realize none of the info I need to do the work is ready to go from the person I'm helping. (And I'm not hyperbolizing here -- not one item of the pre-work was ready).

Person is 'unaware' that they had to do these tasks first, and asks me if I can do the work with what's there. I want to reply "That's like challenging me to a game of one-on-one basketball without a hoop or a ball" but I decline.

So I get saddled with trying to salvage the entire thing, and to say I'm furious is putting it mildly.

funky brewster (San Te), Tuesday, 7 September 2010 18:34 (thirteen years ago) link

though I'm not taking it, either. i made the other person do all communicating to get the additional info i need.

funky brewster (San Te), Tuesday, 7 September 2010 18:35 (thirteen years ago) link

While I'm still very grateful to even have a job now, let alone one I really like, I am trying hard to wrap my brain around the girl that sits behind me and eats only popcorn all day every day. Three or four bags a day. Which, fine, different strokes. Except she likes it burnt. So the office is overwhelmed with burnt popcorn smell four times a day. And, for me, there is more nauseating smell in the world.

he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 15 September 2010 13:26 (thirteen years ago) link

"no more"

he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 15 September 2010 13:26 (thirteen years ago) link

burnt popcorn smell never goes away and is the worst. Why do people eat that at work?

kate78, Wednesday, 15 September 2010 15:54 (thirteen years ago) link

related: I know you ate your desk but you can still throw the fast food trash out in the lunch room so we don't have to smell it for the rest of the afternoon.

bnw, Wednesday, 15 September 2010 15:59 (thirteen years ago) link

we had that problem so bad that popping popcorn is forbidden on any floor but the ground floor, where the cafeteria is.

turn in yer badge (San Te), Wednesday, 15 September 2010 16:02 (thirteen years ago) link

I have a suspicion that this guy just passive-aggressively "forgot" to do his part on an project that I included him on because I rejected one of his ideas about how the assignment should be structured.

Break the Ice (kkvgz), Wednesday, 15 September 2010 20:32 (thirteen years ago) link

related: I know you ate your desk

I guess s/he needed some extra fiber.

Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Wednesday, 15 September 2010 23:28 (thirteen years ago) link

Seriously, anyone living on nothing but popcorn is going to get pretty damn sick - its nothing but fibre and salt. Hello, scurvy!

Connect Four Tet (Trayce), Wednesday, 15 September 2010 23:32 (thirteen years ago) link

Yes, coworker, let's keep interrupting and complaining about off-topic items on a meeting that has already run 20 minutes over, and when the thing you're complaining about IS NOT UNIQUE TO YOU!

turn in yer badge (San Te), Wednesday, 22 September 2010 17:49 (thirteen years ago) link

I also dislike the people who wish to back into their parking spaces, but don't know how to do it, so they drive through one parking space to get to the other side and park. I once almost got hit by some idiot that did that.

Similarly, the idiots that use the parking lots as driving lanes and drive through them rather than the designated lanes. If the lot is empty, ok whatever, but when it's at the height of its activity, no drivers are looking for you when you're doing that!

turn in yer badge (San Te), Wednesday, 22 September 2010 17:53 (thirteen years ago) link

Jesus lady. Take the minutes, don't take the minutes, nobody else cares if they happen or not. But don't bully someone else into taking them, then whinge that they don't include everything on your own copious notes which you always write anyway, and stop them being sent out until you've rewritten them, which you then don't do for a month (by which time any information on them is either irrelevant or obvious to everyone), and then have a massive hissyfit about how long it takes you.

EVERY. TIME. This has happened at least ten times with at least five different people taking apparently inadequate minutes. Fucking hell.

(I should know better than to check my work email from home, yes? I already had an earful of this all day and all yesterday and now I have an inboxful too)

patapon pataphysics (a passing spacecadet), Wednesday, 22 September 2010 19:53 (thirteen years ago) link

lady sounds like the type who writes Powerpoints in paragraph format and overexplains things

Remedial Thug Motivation (San Te), Wednesday, 22 September 2010 20:19 (thirteen years ago) link

A critique of your powerpoint that you have to give in front of the company president is not fairly comparable to the McCarthy hearings.

kkvgz, Wednesday, 22 September 2010 20:32 (thirteen years ago) link

I hate co-workers that can't take feedback. the one major chewout I've ever gotten I treated as a valuable learning experience.

Remedial Thug Motivation (San Te), Wednesday, 22 September 2010 20:33 (thirteen years ago) link

what should have taken approx. 1.5 hrs max has now evolved into a multi day project, due to the total spazz idiot airhead that i've been stuck working with on this thing. she set the times for us to meet yet was still 90mins late monday and 40mins late today. she talked my boss into making her a part of this project that was MY idea and which i already had worked out, and all the things she told our boss she could contribute have turned out to be TOTAL BULLSHIT. ugh.

just1n3, Wednesday, 22 September 2010 20:51 (thirteen years ago) link

Point that out to boss! Or dont you want to be a dobber.

cathedral-sized jellyfish in your mind (Trayce), Wednesday, 22 September 2010 22:09 (thirteen years ago) link

Jesus lady. Take the minutes, don't take the minutes, nobody else cares if they happen or not. But don't bully someone else into taking them, then whinge that they don't include everything on your own copious notes which you always write anyway, and stop them being sent out until you've rewritten them, which you then don't do for a month (by which time any information on them is either irrelevant or obvious to everyone), and then have a massive hissyfit about how long it takes you.

EVERY. TIME. This has happened at least ten times with at least five different people taking apparently inadequate minutes. Fucking hell.

(I should know better than to check my work email from home, yes? I already had an earful of this all day and all yesterday and now I have an inboxful too)

You should have known what you were getting in to when you started working at Nine Year Old Girls R Us.

Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Wednesday, 22 September 2010 22:24 (thirteen years ago) link

xp ugh it's this weird situ where my boss just lets this spazz get away with anything - she is so fuckin flaky (eg. she didn't turn up for an afternoon shift starting at 2pm bc she SLEPT THRU HER ALARM) and unreliable and air-headed but she gets really easily butthurt and makes a point of letting everyone know that she is special bc a) her dad died 3yrs ago and b) she is bi-polar and has ADD.

thing is, my boss is also totally fuckin flaky so they are like two peas in a pod. this is the same boss who thinks it would seem 'desperate' to advertise the fact that we manufacture our clothing locally (and this is in berkeley, the fcukin hippieorganiclocavore capital of the world).

just1n3, Wednesday, 22 September 2010 23:46 (thirteen years ago) link

oh man, Berkeley, say no more.

Dan I., Wednesday, 22 September 2010 23:53 (thirteen years ago) link

(Don't) Putting Spaz

meta the devil you know (onimo), Thursday, 23 September 2010 10:19 (thirteen years ago) link

I also dislike the people who wish to back into their parking spaces, but don't know how to do it, so they drive through one parking space to get to the other side and park. I once almost got hit by some idiot that did that.

I do this allllll the tiiiiime! or would if i drove more than once a year. it's not to do with backing in, it's to do with getting a quick exit! would have to be pretty unlucky and unobservant to be in danger of hitting someone coming from the other direction imo.

ledge, Thursday, 23 September 2010 10:39 (thirteen years ago) link

would have to be pretty unlucky and unobservant to be in danger of hitting someone

^from the man who doesn't look behind him when changing lanes iirc

meta the devil you know (onimo), Thursday, 23 September 2010 10:50 (thirteen years ago) link

encyclopedantic^

i dont love everything, i love football (darraghmac), Thursday, 23 September 2010 10:51 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah I subscribed to the jaymc.xls mailshot

meta the devil you know (onimo), Thursday, 23 September 2010 10:54 (thirteen years ago) link

I stand by all of my manoeuvres - only thing I've ever crashed into was stationary and right in front of me. (of course I realise i'm not doing myself any favours with this argument.)

ledge, Thursday, 23 September 2010 11:17 (thirteen years ago) link

backing in is fine, but driving through the spot to the other side=NO NO NO. someone almost hit me doing that once here, and took a spot that I had a right to! I shoulda hit him, cuz I woulda collected nice $$$$ on that.

Remedial Thug Motivation (San Te), Thursday, 23 September 2010 13:03 (thirteen years ago) link

also coworker why do you keep asking me what I mean by these notes when I've told you multiple times in the past that these notes aren't written by me, but by your superior. Makes you look pretty dumb that you don't even understand your own department's MO.

Remedial Thug Motivation (San Te), Thursday, 23 September 2010 13:04 (thirteen years ago) link

would have to be pretty unlucky and unobservant to be in danger of hitting someone

^from the man who doesn't look behind him when changing lanes iirc

― meta the devil you know (onimo), Thursday, September 23, 2010 10:50 AM (10 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

saw ledge's post and also thought of that changing lanes thread straight away. scary stuff ledge.

yeah whatever (whatever), Thursday, 23 September 2010 21:23 (thirteen years ago) link

God I'm trying not to begin the day on a cranky note but it's next to impossible when a certain someone keeps asking me questions about notes LEFT BY PEOPLE IN HER OWN DEPARTMENT. And this is not the first, second, third, or even fourth time I've told her, no, this is not my note, it is your project lead's, please see HIM if you have questions about how this works.

Not to mention that it's sad that you don't know how your own department's process works...but even worse that you go to someone outside of it to ask!!!

Remedial Thug Motivation (San Te), Friday, 24 September 2010 13:14 (thirteen years ago) link

we got some paranoid people in the bathrooms here. i keep finding these toilet paper "flags" in the stalls in two places: one to fill the small gap between the door and the wall panel, and one to fill the gap in the back of the stall wall.

These things look like they take 5 minutes to take each. Why? To tackle the obvious clear and present danger of the person in the next stall craning his head back to watch you take a dump? It's ridiculous and a waste of toilet paper!

Remedial Thug Motivation (San Te), Friday, 24 September 2010 14:38 (thirteen years ago) link

Wd sooner have my eyes pinned open for 72 sleepless hours of the worst of rotten.com than see any of my coworkers take a dump

patapon pataphysics (a passing spacecadet), Friday, 24 September 2010 15:17 (thirteen years ago) link

yea but in order to do it in this stall, you'd have to crane your next back almost in a sleeping position, or if you were at a urinal, would have to look to the right and duck. I mean these guys are protecting themselves against an evil that doesn't exist!

Remedial Thug Motivation (San Te), Friday, 24 September 2010 15:21 (thirteen years ago) link

"You're coming to lunch at 12.30 right?"
"um... first Ive heard of it. I actually had plans.."
*whining* "noooo I'm not taking no for an answer, COME TO LUNCH"
"Uh dude I was going to be shopping on my lunchbreak..."
"you can go shopping after lunch!"

Dude, are you even listening to yourself!? Gah. I hate pushy people. I said no, I don't have to justify why or be talked out of it. Fuck off.

cathedral-sized jellyfish in your mind (Trayce), Friday, 1 October 2010 00:28 (thirteen years ago) link

he just likes your company, trayce!

got electrolytes (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 1 October 2010 00:44 (thirteen years ago) link

If he was asking me to lunch on his own I'd be even more worried, he's a married man with a kid o_0 Nah its the sales team wanting to "thank" me for helping them hit the quarterly targets (heres a tip guys: LET ME GET BONUSES LIKE YOU DO), but he's already buying me a cider after work (I conceded to that to shut him up heh).

cathedral-sized jellyfish in your mind (Trayce), Friday, 1 October 2010 00:49 (thirteen years ago) link

This makes it sound like I am rly anti social at work hhaha. I'm not, I just hate things being last-moment sprung on me. And I *loathe* people who wont take no for an answer :(

cathedral-sized jellyfish in your mind (Trayce), Friday, 1 October 2010 00:49 (thirteen years ago) link

And I *loathe* people who wont take no for an answer

me 2

hypnopriapism (electricsound), Friday, 1 October 2010 01:16 (thirteen years ago) link

Is it a particularly aussie thing? "gwwannn just have ONE beer, what areya a poof?" and that sort of shit. I hate it. I worked at a place that hassled a MUSLIM guy for politely declining a friday beer. FFS guys - our client base is in BAGHDAD, get a clue.

cathedral-sized jellyfish in your mind (Trayce), Friday, 1 October 2010 01:17 (thirteen years ago) link

often times if I get invited for an after work beer I politely decline simply because I'VE BEEN AT WORK ALL DAY, I'd like to, y'know, go home and stuff and relax. It isn't personal if I decline. Besides, you're also asking me to needlessly spend my own money, so I should have the final say on whether I do that, no?

officer i didn't know it was a penguin (San Te), Friday, 1 October 2010 12:32 (thirteen years ago) link

got this one co-worker who doesn't understand how any processes work and this one thing we worked on has had numerous problems, a few of which were my department's fault, but most of which were not. Everytime something goes wrong there's no objective "can you tell me what the root cause is", it's basically insinuating we messed up and can we take a look at it and fix it.

I mean do you not realize that leading off with an implication of my dept's guilt without even knowing half the details is probably going to make me less likely to want to help you than if you just ask if I can take a look to see what happened?

officer i didn't know it was a penguin (San Te), Friday, 1 October 2010 12:34 (thirteen years ago) link

Whenever the office spaz would try to coerce me yet again to eat the desserts someone brought in or go out for drinks, i would always tell her how she would be the best drug dealer ever. She seriously could not drop it until I had said no 7 times. I sometimes had to throw away food because she would still put shit on my desk after I said no.

Yerac, Friday, 1 October 2010 14:11 (thirteen years ago) link

8:15 in the morning and she is already on her first bag of popcorn. This has continued for the entire month I've been here, 2-4 bags of popcorn per day. I don't get it, I would get sick of anything if I ate it that often.

he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 4 October 2010 13:24 (thirteen years ago) link

I am so sick and tired of people who refuse to follow procedure. Obviously we can't be so inflexible as to never allow exceptions, but today is another example of yet another co-worker who I had to say "no" to because what they wanted was outside of proper procedure, and yet again, is fighting me on it. The main things that angered me:

1. I took the time to proactively provide alternative options, and this person apparently didn't read them. He responded in snarky fashion that if I couldn't do it his way, could I at least give him alternatives? I GAVE YOU FOUR OF THEM!!!!

2. Email was very condescending, presuming that I obviously don't know what I'm talking about. A. I've been working here nearly six years, and this guy maybe 1-2, B. I used to have his job so I know what it entails, and C. BECAUSE of that experience, I am explaining to him why this approach is THE WRONG ONE.

3. I will likely, as usual, get painted as the bad guy simply because I don't kotow to those who simply ignore the regulations of their job in favor of doing things "how they want to do it".

committee for the removal of eccentric, evil mods (C.R.E.E.M.) (San Te), Wednesday, 6 October 2010 19:28 (thirteen years ago) link

sorry for the vent, got unusually ticked off about this.

committee for the removal of eccentric, evil mods (C.R.E.E.M.) (San Te), Wednesday, 6 October 2010 19:28 (thirteen years ago) link

san te: by the books 4 lyf

jónsi - go die (diamonddave85), Wednesday, 6 October 2010 19:53 (thirteen years ago) link

Misread that as "Emeril was very condescending"

In "Bob" There Is No East or West (WmC), Wednesday, 6 October 2010 20:02 (thirteen years ago) link

It must be a diet thing, shes on her fourth bag of popcorn since 8:30 this morning. It is now 3:20.

he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 6 October 2010 20:19 (thirteen years ago) link

Maybe it's some sort of "dredging the canal" master cleanse.

In "Bob" There Is No East or West (WmC), Wednesday, 6 October 2010 20:25 (thirteen years ago) link

there's a canal I'd rather not travel

committee for the removal of eccentric, evil mods (C.R.E.E.M.) (San Te), Wednesday, 6 October 2010 20:38 (thirteen years ago) link

Been half listening & trying to ignore fucking golf conversations for FIVE HOURS. Guys who have played golf for decades quibbling over rules.

san te cross (onimo), Friday, 8 October 2010 12:49 (thirteen years ago) link

I could xpost this to "innocuous things that make us irrationally angry" but still: one of my office-mates saunters into our three-person office every morning, greeting us with a quietly-spoken "g00d m0rning, gentl3m3n." We've been sharing this office for 5 months and it's the same damn thing every day. I don't understand the need for this affectation.

kkvgz, Friday, 8 October 2010 13:05 (thirteen years ago) link

I sometimes eat caramel corn for breakfast, but never in the office! I once had a co-worker who not only would eat popcorn in the office, but who kept his own popcorn popper in his cubicle. I think even munching popcorn on the train is rude! Unless it is candy corn, in which case you are obligated to share heaping bags of it with your office mates.

Remember the Dayne! (u s steel), Friday, 8 October 2010 13:11 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm tired of the people here who wear their iPODs everywhere in the building, including the elevator/outside. It's really unprofessional, and also especially annoying when I'm asking you to press an elevator button for me and you SHRUG and POINT AT YOUR HEADSET as if to say "I can't hear you and this song is too good for me to pull this out of my ear atm".

I mean I have a co-worker who listens to his iPOD as he pisses.

committee for the removal of eccentric, evil mods (C.R.E.E.M.) (San Te), Friday, 8 October 2010 14:03 (thirteen years ago) link

I just can't imagine what would happen if one of our clients came up and tried to ask one of them a question and got rebuffed like that.

committee for the removal of eccentric, evil mods (C.R.E.E.M.) (San Te), Friday, 8 October 2010 14:04 (thirteen years ago) link

Either stop sucking your fucking teeth and making stupid clicky noises, or visit the fucking dentist, for fuck's fucking sake.

James Mitchell, Monday, 11 October 2010 08:11 (thirteen years ago) link

going back to the complaint I had last week, these twits still aren't listening to me. Despite me giving clear, and easy alternatives to do the work they want that will achieve the same results, be better functionally, and take half the time, they are still asking me to misuse technology simply because they don't know how to train their associates. It is weaker functionally, will take double the time, and is technically not even allowable under the guidelines.

I want to bang my head against a wall with these people sometimes.

THE SOMEWHAT COMPETENT RANDY (San Te), Monday, 11 October 2010 13:16 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm guilty of wearing my iPod in the elevator, but only in the morning when I'm heading into the office and I always turn it down to make sure I can hear. I always take mine off when I walk away from my desk too though, that is pretty rude.

he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 11 October 2010 13:22 (thirteen years ago) link

yea, I can live with that. I posted a friendly reminder on our web bulletin board about it just asking that people respect their co-workers, and got a whiny response from someone in one of the entry level positions saying they have such a tough job and don't get much of a break and oh they should be allowed to wear their iPod at their desk (something I never argued otherwise).

One of those "woe is me, you don't get how it is to be me" messages, to which I politely replied that I'd had their position when I started with the company and yes I do know what it's like but I DIDN'T WEAR IPODS ALL AROUND THE BUILDING AND IGNORE CO-WORKERS TRYING TO ASK QUESTIONS!

THE SOMEWHAT COMPETENT RANDY (San Te), Monday, 11 October 2010 14:03 (thirteen years ago) link

I hate to keep contributing to this thread, but it's been that kinda month so far.

so this morning, I get a list of names/SSNs in the office mail from another team in the building with no explanation as to why. I'm not affiliated with them at all, and this team has an uber-rigid security 'agreement' you have to sign with them before you can even do work with them.

So now I have the pleasure of having to alert my manager to cover my butt, lock away the materials, and then try to find out who sent this to me and why because THEY DIDN'T EVEN WRITE THEIR NAME ON THE ENVELOPE.

melody-hating aggr0 nerd (San Te), Tuesday, 12 October 2010 14:06 (thirteen years ago) link

This girl has single-handedly ruined popcorn for me forever.

he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 12 October 2010 20:27 (thirteen years ago) link

lol knew this had to be a popcorn post before opening. you should leave a bag of skittles on her desk with a note that says "Take...the...hint"

melody-hating aggr0 nerd (San Te), Tuesday, 12 October 2010 20:33 (thirteen years ago) link

you could ruin popcorn for her via the popcorn trick

expect an unpleasant visit from HR afterward though

GLEERILLAZ! (HI DERE), Tuesday, 12 October 2010 20:35 (thirteen years ago) link

Hah, I really hate to be so predictable about this, but I'm honestly surprised how much this bothers me. I mean, 100% honest, this has been 2-4 times per day - every day for over a month. And with my desk being within 15 feet of the microwave, its all I smell.

he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 12 October 2010 20:38 (thirteen years ago) link

"Sir, as part of our investigation, we need to ask a few questions. Are you aware of the function of the bottom of the popcorn tub and why removing it was a bad thing?"

melody-hating aggr0 nerd (San Te), Tuesday, 12 October 2010 20:38 (thirteen years ago) link

i for one would be totally down with a PA note in this instance - still a new job for you so maybe don't want to make a direct complaint to her or the boss and maybe look bad, but a sneakily-placed note might do the trick? nothing too harsh, maybe "this popcorn thing is getting weird and the smell, day in day out, is really sickening to a lot of ppl in this office".

i mean, seriously, this behaviour of hers is pretty fucking weird.

just1n3, Tuesday, 12 October 2010 22:38 (thirteen years ago) link

Beware the popcorn lung!

kate78, Tuesday, 12 October 2010 22:40 (thirteen years ago) link

i would seriously and anonymously send her this ^^ link

just1n3, Tuesday, 12 October 2010 22:45 (thirteen years ago) link

I'd send it not anonymously! I'd lean over her cubicle going OMG HAVE YOU READ THIS OMG THIS IS BAAAAD

Watch her freak out and stop eating popcorn.

cathedral-sized jellyfish in your mind (Trayce), Wednesday, 13 October 2010 05:58 (thirteen years ago) link

Buy her loads more so she dies, problem solved.

not_goodwin, Wednesday, 13 October 2010 06:11 (thirteen years ago) link

^likes

cathedral-sized jellyfish in your mind (Trayce), Wednesday, 13 October 2010 06:15 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm seriously considering these ideas, she is on her SECOND bag of popcorn since she got here 40 minutes ago.

he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 13 October 2010 13:32 (thirteen years ago) link

I mean, its 8:30 in the morning ffs. Who eats two bags of popcorn for breakfast???

he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 13 October 2010 13:32 (thirteen years ago) link

last night I was at the movie theatre eating popcorn and I thought of this thread and thought of someone consuming that much popcorn in a day and it ruined the popcorn for me. so now i have a vested interest in this.

like you should buy all the popcorn in a 30 mile radius and destroy it

melody-hating aggr0 nerd (San Te), Wednesday, 13 October 2010 13:56 (thirteen years ago) link

Find a well throw her in it then bury her in popcorn.
Only flaw is she may eat her way out and tell police or HR on you.

not_goodwin, Wednesday, 13 October 2010 14:43 (thirteen years ago) link

this last two weeks is just killing me, it was so peaceful before.

if I review your work (which is one of my responsibilities) and find you made a significant mistake on something that impacts another team, and I tell you that day to fix it immediately, and you let four business days pass without giving me any update, and when I ask you what's up, you say "oh sorry I've been super busy, I'll do it today", and then you don't do it...that's the point I stop talking to you and start talking to your manager.

Unreal.

melody-hating aggr0 nerd (San Te), Wednesday, 13 October 2010 14:47 (thirteen years ago) link

Jeez, sounds like you need to start throwing furniture. People obv aren't taking you seriously.

Headlock Ellis (WmC), Wednesday, 13 October 2010 14:51 (thirteen years ago) link

this has been a truly abnormal month. I usually don't have this many issues at the same time. This person though would be wise to do the right thing as this gets documented permanently, so there's no chance of anybody 'forgetting'.

melody-hating aggr0 nerd (San Te), Wednesday, 13 October 2010 14:53 (thirteen years ago) link

That very scene has passed through my head more than a few times over the last month.

he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 13 October 2010 15:15 (thirteen years ago) link

I mean, seriously. That's too much popcorn. Your only hope is that she contracts diverticulitis.

Regular Stormy (Jenny), Wednesday, 13 October 2010 15:35 (thirteen years ago) link

Does she eat anything else? Are these the 100 calorie light popcorn bags? Maybe she has an eating disorder.

Regular Stormy (Jenny), Wednesday, 13 October 2010 15:36 (thirteen years ago) link

oh she definitely has an eating disorder

congratulations (n/a), Wednesday, 13 October 2010 15:37 (thirteen years ago) link

I've never seen her eat anything else at the office, she never leaves for lunch. Just the popcorn.

he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 13 October 2010 15:40 (thirteen years ago) link

She basically shouldn't still be ALIVE.

I've got ten bucks. SURPRISE ME. (Laurel), Wednesday, 13 October 2010 15:41 (thirteen years ago) link

need stealthy pic of her eating.

not_goodwin, Wednesday, 13 October 2010 15:49 (thirteen years ago) link

Maybe she'll get scurvy, lose teeth, and be unable to chew anymore popcorn.

Regular Stormy (Jenny), Wednesday, 13 October 2010 15:51 (thirteen years ago) link

you should try to wean her onto more appropriate corn-based meals as a way to convert her to real food. like make her grits for breakfast, for example.

congratulations (n/a), Wednesday, 13 October 2010 15:52 (thirteen years ago) link

Well now I want this "how long to die of malnutrition" experiment to continue why because it look intersteing.

Headlock Ellis (WmC), Wednesday, 13 October 2010 16:25 (thirteen years ago) link

the popcorn diet

l∞l (darraghmac), Wednesday, 13 October 2010 16:27 (thirteen years ago) link

Because I'm dumb enough to be using my real (but very common) name, I always half-expect revives here to be my co-workers finsing me out.

buildings with goats on the roof (James Morrison), Wednesday, 13 October 2010 23:48 (thirteen years ago) link

Find a well throw her in it then bury her in popcorn.
Only flaw is she may eat her way out and tell police or HR on you.

Tried to find pic of Lucy Liubots eating way out of popcorn and spitting it at everyone but failed.

cathedral-sized jellyfish in your mind (Trayce), Thursday, 14 October 2010 01:58 (thirteen years ago) link

i've given up on having a good day this month. every day in the past two weeks has begun with something annoying or infuriating. the only saving grace has been the texts my new ladyfriend has sent each morning wishing me a good day, otherwise I'd flip out.

melody-hating aggr0 nerd (San Te), Thursday, 14 October 2010 14:16 (thirteen years ago) link

course once I leave work everything's fine!

melody-hating aggr0 nerd (San Te), Thursday, 14 October 2010 14:16 (thirteen years ago) link

Does that mean you bring a bad energy and tension level to the workplace that makes things flip out?

Headlock Ellis (WmC), Thursday, 14 October 2010 14:41 (thirteen years ago) link

four years ago, yea that would have been true. but generally once I get home and recharge I forget the events of the day, and I've arrived here in pretty high spirits 4-5 days in a row only to have it dashed by things that have generally occurred in the first half hour.

It won't last forever, everything is cyclical, it's jsut frustrating.

melody-hating aggr0 nerd (San Te), Thursday, 14 October 2010 14:50 (thirteen years ago) link

Okay, I am putting way more energy into thinking and posting about this than I should, but its getting too incredulous to not document. She left the office at about 12:15 today and I was thinking, "wow, she is actually going out to get lunch... good for her". That is until she came back with six huge boxes of individual microwave popcorn packets. Maybe she is just super cheap?

he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 14 October 2010 18:41 (thirteen years ago) link

At this point I would just say to her "you are a walking science experiment to me. Do you take a multivitamin? Is this a diet or just OCD behavior? Tell me about your life" and hope that the attention rattles her enough to quit eating that shit at work.

I thought about having some popcorn the other night, thought about this thread and had some ice cream instead.

Headlock Ellis (WmC), Thursday, 14 October 2010 18:44 (thirteen years ago) link

ha ha!

got electrolytes (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 14 October 2010 18:45 (thirteen years ago) link

ain't gonna lie, went to microwave my food at lunch and saw a chick with just a bag of popcorn (which is forbidden to be popped on this floor) and I thought maybe yer employee got fired and got a job here....

melody-hating aggr0 nerd (San Te), Thursday, 14 October 2010 18:45 (thirteen years ago) link

i am feeling much better from earlier. management had my back on something when I needed them to and it really turned the day around

melody-hating aggr0 nerd (San Te), Thursday, 14 October 2010 18:54 (thirteen years ago) link

You guys she had soup for lunch!

he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 18 October 2010 18:04 (thirteen years ago) link

popcorn soup?

Uh I'm Steven Tyler (HI DERE), Monday, 18 October 2010 18:04 (thirteen years ago) link

that's like methadone for popcorn eaters

melody-hating aggr0 nerd (San Te), Monday, 18 October 2010 18:04 (thirteen years ago) link

was it corn chowder

Unfrozen Caveman Board-Lawyer (WmC), Monday, 18 October 2010 18:05 (thirteen years ago) link

Not sure what kind it was, wasn't close enough to determine that. It did not have any distinct smell, that I can tell you.

he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 18 October 2010 18:06 (thirteen years ago) link

what do popcorn farts smell like btw

melody-hating aggr0 nerd (San Te), Monday, 18 October 2010 18:07 (thirteen years ago) link

orville redenbackers asshole.

definatelypoopsmcgee (chrisv2010), Monday, 18 October 2010 18:31 (thirteen years ago) link

am i at work, or in a playground ?

WHO THE FCK KNOWS ANYMORE!

F-Unit (Ste), Thursday, 21 October 2010 12:30 (thirteen years ago) link

jon I recommend u get an mp3 of the song "popcorn" and play it on repeat, til she gets it.

cathedral-sized jellyfish in your mind (Trayce), Thursday, 21 October 2010 12:45 (thirteen years ago) link

PS this may never happen so be prepared to go mental.

cathedral-sized jellyfish in your mind (Trayce), Thursday, 21 October 2010 12:45 (thirteen years ago) link

stick with chiptunes. there is an infinite variety of popcorn chiptunes for some reason.

Kerm, Thursday, 21 October 2010 12:58 (thirteen years ago) link

Guys she ate J1mmy J0hn's yesterday. And zero bags of popcorn that I saw. Breakthrough? Temporary diversion? Stay tuned.

"I am a fairly respected poster." (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 21 October 2010 13:20 (thirteen years ago) link

Either stop sucking your fucking teeth and making stupid clicky noises, or visit the fucking dentist, for fuck's fucking sake.

― James Mitchell, Monday, 11 October 2010 09:11 (1 week ago) Bookmark

Still doing this. Every 30 seconds for eight hours a day. Cunt.

James Mitchell, Thursday, 21 October 2010 14:36 (thirteen years ago) link

get a power washer and blast her mouth.

thebingo2010 (chrisv2010), Thursday, 21 October 2010 14:42 (thirteen years ago) link

hey boss how the fuck am i supposed to calculate how much coffee we waste?

Str8 Drapin It (chrisv2010), Thursday, 21 October 2010 18:09 (thirteen years ago) link

Hahaha, and she's back. Third bag so far today!

"I am a fairly respected poster." (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 21 October 2010 19:10 (thirteen years ago) link

she's got a popcorn fetish.

Str8 Drapin It (chrisv2010), Thursday, 21 October 2010 19:17 (thirteen years ago) link

why do some people insist on having extremely personal conversations at their desk, and not the courtesy phones in private areas...and while they're doing so, not even make an attempt to do so quietly or soften their voice.

it's distracting, it's uncomfortable, it's rude, and yet my boss, when I mentioned it to him, basically said that if it were him he'd just ignore it and that he didn't think it was a big deal.

well, when I hear someone either sobbing, yelling, or telling someone to "go to Hell and burn", it tends to draw my attention away from what I'm doing!

melody-hating aggr0 nerd (San Te), Thursday, 21 October 2010 19:55 (thirteen years ago) link

document them, end to end and word by word, and forward copies to both your boss and the offenders

once a remy bean always a (remy bean), Thursday, 21 October 2010 19:56 (thirteen years ago) link

at least it wasnt a conversation about butt sex

Str8 Drapin It (chrisv2010), Thursday, 21 October 2010 19:57 (thirteen years ago) link

I didn't transcribe them as that would bring on claims of eavesdropping, but I definitely documented and complained to my manager. Other people on the team have complained to me but just didn't feel like doing anything about it.

My manager basically said he didn't think it was a big deal, and that he could bring it up with her, but then she'd figure out who reported it, insinuating that he'd be willingly setting me up for retaliation.

I need a manager who doesn't have such a myopic view on things.

melody-hating aggr0 nerd (San Te), Thursday, 21 October 2010 20:00 (thirteen years ago) link

you need to get everyone else who complained on board and documented with going to the manager, and if he still won't do anything go to his manager

O'Donnell and the Brain (HI DERE), Thursday, 21 October 2010 20:01 (thirteen years ago) link

document them, end to end and word by word, and forward copies to both your boss and the offenders

I can understand how you wouldn't want to have to overhear such a conversation, but honestly this would pretty much be a dick move to pull on someone that is obviously already going through a painful situation (at least, I'd assume so given that language).

"I am a fairly respected poster." (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 21 October 2010 20:04 (thirteen years ago) link

my old co-worker used to do that all the time. Except scream at his mother in Polish. Not cool. It was funny once.

Str8 Drapin It (chrisv2010), Thursday, 21 October 2010 20:04 (thirteen years ago) link

I envision San Te's office environment like those old monster.com commercials that depicted the entire office staff other than the job seeker as poo flinging monkeys.

phantoms from a world gone by speak again the immortal tale: (Jenny), Thursday, 21 October 2010 20:18 (thirteen years ago) link

Lol it's not quite that bad. Not QUITE

melody-hating aggr0 nerd (San Te), Thursday, 21 October 2010 22:58 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm surprised your boss isnt concerned she's having personal calls on work time?

cathedral-sized jellyfish in your mind (Trayce), Thursday, 21 October 2010 23:02 (thirteen years ago) link

Heh there's that, too. She's on the phone with personal calls for hours a day

melody-hating aggr0 nerd (San Te), Thursday, 21 October 2010 23:04 (thirteen years ago) link

Uuugh dude if you're so sick you can't string a sentence together because you are violently coughing up phlegm into a tissue and dramatically puffing like you're dying, why the fuck are you at work. You work on phones ffs.

cathedral-sized jellyfish in your mind (Trayce), Tuesday, 26 October 2010 00:20 (thirteen years ago) link

Related to that, you've been coughing non-stop for the past three weeks. Perhaps its time to go see a doctor, no?

"I am a fairly respected poster." (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 26 October 2010 14:20 (thirteen years ago) link

is this popcorn girl? she's coughing up kernels.

Str8 Drapin It (chrisv2010), Tuesday, 26 October 2010 14:23 (thirteen years ago) link

popcorn lung!!

kate78, Tuesday, 26 October 2010 14:31 (thirteen years ago) link

No no, a different lady. Popcorn girl is out of the office this week.

"I am a fairly respected poster." (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 26 October 2010 14:34 (thirteen years ago) link

Would it be possible to shut your mouth while you chomp on potato chips?

"I am a fairly respected poster." (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 26 October 2010 15:34 (thirteen years ago) link

people you work with like snacks.

Str8 Drapin It (chrisv2010), Tuesday, 26 October 2010 15:34 (thirteen years ago) link

i swear i am the only person in this office who knows how to unjam the copier. WTF PEOPLE THE DIRECTIONS ARE ON THE SCREEN IN FRONT OF YOU!

Str8 Drapin It (chrisv2010), Tuesday, 26 October 2010 15:36 (thirteen years ago) link

Unjamming in my job, too. Perhaps you have particularly lithe and nimble fingers, like me.

kate78, Tuesday, 26 October 2010 15:46 (thirteen years ago) link

WHY ARE YOU TALKING TO YOURSELF IN THE BATHROOM

hælvæticæ (diamonddave85), Tuesday, 26 October 2010 16:29 (thirteen years ago) link

i should never hear the slapping of skin while you are performing 'the shake'

hælvæticæ (diamonddave85), Tuesday, 26 October 2010 16:33 (thirteen years ago) link

I hate hate hate this American work ethic that drives people to believe that, even if they are severely contagious and coughing up a lung, they can NEVER NEVER NEVER miss a day of work. It sounds like a damned hospital ward in here this afternoon.

"I am a fairly respected poster." (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 26 October 2010 21:24 (thirteen years ago) link

In another episode of Eating Habits of ILX's Coworkers, I can still smell the extremely garlicky thing my officemate ate 5+ hours ago.

(Who eats garlic at 10am anyway? Oh right, a white guy who eats 3 meals during office hours every day, two of which are always large tupperware tubs of white rice and curry. I like both garlic and curry, but other people's garlic and curry get a bit oppressive in an unventilated office. Though really I mainly mind him making it so spicy he sniffs constantly for the next hour after eating it, but that's not really his problem, more that I am a socially incompetent aspie who likes to live in a bubble of pretending nobody else exists - and I do realise I have my own annoying habits, and that as a fattey who still eats crisps and Coke my own diet is pretty disgusting too, etc)

what is he like? the guy's a juggalo, man (a passing spacecadet), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 14:22 (thirteen years ago) link

This thread had made me hyper-aware of my eating sounds.

kate78, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 14:36 (thirteen years ago) link

WHY ARE YOU TALKING TO YOURSELF IN THE BATHROOM

― hælvæticæ (diamonddave85), Tuesday, October 26, 2010 12:29 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i should never hear the slapping of skin while you are performing 'the shake'

― hælvæticæ (diamonddave85), Tuesday, October 26, 2010 12:33 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

This person is clearly polishing the pickle.

Str8 Drapin It (chrisv2010), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 15:24 (thirteen years ago) link

^^ two diff people at diff times

hælvæticæ (diamonddave85), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 15:56 (thirteen years ago) link

The bathroom habits of my coworkers could merit their own thread, but in summary:

- Talking on the phone while pooping.
- Talking on the phone about pooping while pooping.
- Praying.
- Praying about pooping.
- Singing hymns.
- Singing popular songs.
- Disposing of food wrappers in the sanitary napkin disposal bins, leading me to suspect people are eating in there.
- The multiple coworkers who grab piles of paper towels from the dispenser on the way in and use them to guard their hands against touching anything, and then leave the excess paper towels in a pile on the toilet paper holder until someone comes in and knocks the towels on the floor, causing the floor to be littered with paper towels by the end of the day.
- Using toilet paper to make little privacy curtains over the small cracks between the stall doors and the stall door frames.
- The lady who washes the outside of the bags of chips she buys from the vending machine.
- This same lady who takes piles of paper towels into the bathroom with her and although I (thankfully) cannot see her, I subsequently hear her scrubbing those dry paper towels all over... something... and I don't even want to speculate any further.
- Forgetting to or just choosing not to flush.
- Peeing on the seat.
- Bleeding on the seat.
- Pooping on the seat.
- Peeing on the floor.
- Bleeding on the floor.
- Pooping on the floor.
- Someone or someones or maybe a lack of cleaning or a defect in the bathroom itself, but one of these things causes the entire bathroom to smell like cross between a dumpster behind a fishmarket in the summer and that guy on the train who has years ago given up gainful employment to dedicate his full time to soiling his own pants.
- Tooth brushing in there, despite all of the above.

phantoms from a world gone by speak again the immortal tale: (Jenny), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 16:58 (thirteen years ago) link

hey people who are shredding documents, please pick up the little shreds that fall out of the bucket and onto the floor. I AM NOT YOUR FUCKING MAID!

Str8 Drapin It (chrisv2010), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 17:18 (thirteen years ago) link

Oh my god. If you feel the need to walk around the office coughing all over the place and loudly proclaiming, "I should have just stayed home today, I feel awful", well, then, YOU SHOULD HAVE STAYED HOME.

"I am a fairly respected poster." (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 19:46 (thirteen years ago) link

wish y'all co-worker bitcher-abouters would be co-worker bitcher-atters

Unfrozen Caveman Board-Lawyer (WmC), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 19:58 (thirteen years ago) link

This particular co-worker is really too nice for me to get like angry at her, so I tried good old-fashioned passive-aggressiveness and keep asking if she needs cough drops or anything.

"I am a fairly respected poster." (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 20:01 (thirteen years ago) link

I find fake concern along the lines of "oh, yes, you really should take care of yourself, with a cold like that you need lots of rest, now you look after yourself tomorrow" etc sometimes works with our office's most outrageous perpetrator of coming in sick and then complaining loudly/coughing theatrically all day

however, I am too much of a jerk to sound genuinely concerned, plus I'm fairly sure she doesn't like me*, so I let the actual nice person in the office (who also hates this habit) do this, and just nod and go "mm" in the most sympathetic tone I can manage, which is probably not very

* sometimes she is all striking up conversations w/me nice as pie and then sometimes she arrives at a group I'm standing around talking in and stands in front of me with her back to me and just starts talking through the conversation, wtf

what is he like? the guy's a juggalo, man (a passing spacecadet), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 20:11 (thirteen years ago) link

If I could find the people (or person) who left large baguette-sized turds unflushed in two toilets this afternoon, I would take great joy in bitching at that person.

phantoms from a world gone by speak again the immortal tale: (Jenny), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 21:07 (thirteen years ago) link

Praying about pooping.

what the

lol tea partiers and their fat fingers (HI DERE), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 21:12 (thirteen years ago) link

Jenny, where the hell do you work?

kate78, Wednesday, 27 October 2010 21:18 (thirteen years ago) link

Our Lady of Perpetual Regularity

lol tea partiers and their fat fingers (HI DERE), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 21:25 (thirteen years ago) link

"Dear Lord, make this one solid and I'll put five bucks in the Salvation Army kettle this Christmas."

Unfrozen Caveman Board-Lawyer (WmC), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 21:26 (thirteen years ago) link

Jenny is that all maybe the same one person? Someone who is weird and obsessive about shitting, germs and god knows what else?

Sunn O))) Sundae Smile (Trayce), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 22:58 (thirteen years ago) link

Praying about pooping generally takes the form of calling out to Jesus during a particularly trying er movement, be that in thanks or for mercy.

I work in the public sector.

It is definitely not one person unless she pooped heartily in one toilet, leaving it unflushed for posterity, and then pooped with equal gusto in another toilet within the span of an hour and a half. I have also been in the presence of a poop prayer, poop singer, and poop cell phone talker at the same time. That was a magical day.

phantoms from a world gone by speak again the immortal tale: (Jenny), Thursday, 28 October 2010 02:13 (thirteen years ago) link

I'd just hold it in and wait til I got home, yeesh :/

Sunn O))) Sundae Smile (Trayce), Thursday, 28 October 2010 02:20 (thirteen years ago) link

Just took my headphones off for five minutes and the 'sucky teeth guy' I mentioned upthread has already made the lip-smacky pop noise 43 times.

James Mitchell, Thursday, 28 October 2010 14:29 (thirteen years ago) link

i dont understand how people can hold in a dump until they get home. a friend of mine used to drive home (30 miles) to take a shit at lunch.

Str8 Drapin It (chrisv2010), Thursday, 28 October 2010 14:35 (thirteen years ago) link

i just use the interns secret bathroom, costanza style.

Str8 Drapin It (chrisv2010), Thursday, 28 October 2010 14:40 (thirteen years ago) link

Time and need permitting, I go to another floor.

phantoms from a world gone by speak again the immortal tale: (Jenny), Thursday, 28 October 2010 17:17 (thirteen years ago) link

director comes up to me yesterday tells me we need to order more coffee cups asap because we are out. I asked if he looked in the box labeled "COFFEE CUPS". He says yes and that there are none, I go in the kitchen and look in the box which is filled with coffee cups. Go fuck yourself.

Str8 Drapin It (chrisv2010), Tuesday, 2 November 2010 13:29 (thirteen years ago) link

Pooping in restrooms away from home

lol tea partiers and their fat fingers (HI DERE), Tuesday, 2 November 2010 14:38 (thirteen years ago) link

this guy is a real douchebag.

Str8 Drapin It (chrisv2010), Tuesday, 2 November 2010 18:10 (thirteen years ago) link

Okay the dude in an adjacent cubicle is eating potato chips and I swear to god he is working hard at figuring out just how to shape his mouth to make sure the crunch echoes across the entire office.

"I am a fairly respected poster." (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 4 November 2010 18:12 (thirteen years ago) link

thank god he's not eating sun chips in those friggin compostable bags.

Str8 Drapin It (chrisv2010), Thursday, 4 November 2010 18:46 (thirteen years ago) link

So today in the bathroom, someone was pooping and moaning loudly, like they were giving birth in there. The the security guard came in and started singing Christmas songs (The First Noel).

phantoms from a world gone by speak again the immortal tale: (Jenny), Thursday, 4 November 2010 19:06 (thirteen years ago) link

Awesome.

"I am a fairly respected poster." (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 4 November 2010 19:07 (thirteen years ago) link

o shitenbaum

Str8 Drapin It (chrisv2010), Thursday, 4 November 2010 19:13 (thirteen years ago) link

That poop was immaculately conceived.

Son of Sisyphus of Reaganing (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 4 November 2010 19:15 (thirteen years ago) link

coworker says "oh you're not working tomorrow?"
me "nope"
coworker "you have the best schedule of all of us"

the reason i have the "best schedule" is that, while everyone else is full time and is salaried and has benefits and an office, I am part time and paid by the hour and don't get benefits or an office. but if you are jealous of my schedule, I'm sure you could talk the school into making you part-time instead of full-time and taking away your salary and benefits and office

congratulations (n/a), Thursday, 4 November 2010 23:12 (thirteen years ago) link

People, if you work in an office, being an evening-shower person is not acceptable. You smell weird and stale all day.

buildings with goats on the roof (James Morrison), Thursday, 4 November 2010 23:13 (thirteen years ago) link

Uh.

Sunn O))) Sundae Smile (Trayce), Thursday, 4 November 2010 23:32 (thirteen years ago) link

eww trayce

disco stfu (electricsound), Thursday, 4 November 2010 23:37 (thirteen years ago) link

Seriously now, who gives a fuck what time of day you bathe? I'm more offended by people who load themselves up with cologne/deodorant - fuck that shit off, you dont need to smell like toilet scent.

Sunn O))) Sundae Smile (Trayce), Thursday, 4 November 2010 23:41 (thirteen years ago) link

My "uh" was offence at the idea you'd dictate to anyone that they must shower in the morning (or the odd US notion of showering more than once a day what a fucking waste of water)

Sunn O))) Sundae Smile (Trayce), Thursday, 4 November 2010 23:41 (thirteen years ago) link

If you can tell what time of day I take my shower, you're standing too close.

Unfrozen Caveman Board-Lawyer (WmC), Thursday, 4 November 2010 23:46 (thirteen years ago) link

Also anyone who smells "stale" is more likley to do so because they haven't washed their clothes, and/or they smoke, than any shower timing, for serious - I have known people who showered meticulously who ponged - and it turned out it was because they never wore fresh clothes.

Sunn O))) Sundae Smile (Trayce), Friday, 5 November 2010 00:26 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm just trapped in a small office with a boss who showers in the evenings, and she smells like people do when they get out of bed--it's a bit much over an 8-hr day

buildings with goats on the roof (James Morrison), Friday, 5 November 2010 00:33 (thirteen years ago) link

Paranoid now.

ljubljana, Friday, 5 November 2010 00:51 (thirteen years ago) link

At least once a week, one of my co-workers tries to get me to leave early to go to happy hour. When I say I can't, I get the same ribbing over and over again about how I "work too hard." What they fail to comprehend is that I can't even take a lunch break, much less leave work at 3:30 to get drunk, because for the last seven months I've been doing the work of two people. Unlike my co-workers, I'm the only person in my department. In fact, I was recently told that I'm not allowed to take sick days because there's no one else who can do my job. So instead of wasting time at happy hours, I will spend every spare minute I can scrounge up looking for a new job. I know you mean well, co-workers, but seriously, I just want out of this hellhole.

lindseykai, Friday, 5 November 2010 04:22 (thirteen years ago) link

When I say I can't, I get the same ribbing over and over again about how I "work too hard."

Ugh. Thats where I'd be all "yes. Yes. YES *get up from seat* I DO WORK TOO HARD. I WORK HARDER THAN EVERYONE ELSE AND IM GOING TO KILL SOMEONE"

...and then quietly sit back down again.

Sunn O))) Sundae Smile (Trayce), Friday, 5 November 2010 04:35 (thirteen years ago) link

^ YES

got electrolytes (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 5 November 2010 04:59 (thirteen years ago) link

or just go drinking and stop giving a crap if you get behind in your work.

got electrolytes (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 5 November 2010 05:04 (thirteen years ago) link

Hahah actually yeah do that. Let the work just fall away. When anyone asks, shrug and say "y'all said I work too hard and insisted I come drinking so I did".

Sunn O))) Sundae Smile (Trayce), Friday, 5 November 2010 05:05 (thirteen years ago) link

""y'aal shaid I work too hard and inshited I come drinking sho I diiiid". while shoving your finger in your coworker and/or boss's face.

got electrolytes (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 5 November 2010 05:35 (thirteen years ago) link

LOL I would so do this.

Sunn O))) Sundae Smile (Trayce), Friday, 5 November 2010 05:42 (thirteen years ago) link

Guys why do people think unapologetic racism is still OK in 2010?

twisted sister hazel dickens (Stevie D(eux)), Friday, 5 November 2010 05:45 (thirteen years ago) link

Like co-worker, why are you proudly telling me abt how much you hate Mexicans and shit because they're all mean and inconveniencing you when A) they're not and B) they're not.

twisted sister hazel dickens (Stevie D(eux)), Friday, 5 November 2010 05:45 (thirteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

I totally get that you don't want to hold the phone up to your ear while you wait forever on hold, but could you please at least turn down the volume on your speakerphone so the rest of us don't have to hear the annoying, repetitive pre-recorded message for over 40 minutes?

"I am a fairly respected poster." (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 23 November 2010 19:49 (thirteen years ago) link

Guy who thinks it's funny to say web addresses wrong "look it up on dubbayoo dubbayoo dot com dot google dot dot dot" - you are wrong.

Lindsey Lohan is the new Extreme Noise Terror (onimo), Wednesday, 24 November 2010 16:27 (thirteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...

I could xpost this to "innocuous things that make us irrationally angry" but still: one of my office-mates saunters into our three-person office every morning, greeting us with a quietly-spoken "g00d m0rning, gentl3m3n." We've been sharing this office for 5 months and it's the same damn thing every day. I don't understand the need for this affectation.

― kkvgz, Friday, October 8, 2010 9:05 AM (2 months ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Also always departs for lunch with "I shall return." (italics his)

Auto Mall Maniac (kkvgz), Friday, 17 December 2010 17:19 (thirteen years ago) link

Christmas going pretty well here, how is it for you?

People playing christmas songs in my place of work: 0
People wearing comedy santa hats: 1
Stupid, annoying snowmen/santa jpegs on our work webpages: 1
Pointless christmas cards received from people I don't even: 1

O Permaban (NickB), Tuesday, 21 December 2010 11:47 (thirteen years ago) link

People playing christmas songs in my place of work: 0
People wearing comedy santa hats: 0
Stupid, annoying snowmen/santa jpegs on our work webpages: 0
Pointless christmas cards received from people I don't even: 0

It may as well not be xmas at all round here.

전승 Complete Victory (in Battle) (NotEnough), Tuesday, 21 December 2010 13:10 (thirteen years ago) link

You are in charge of c0rp0r4t3 fundr4ising at our sci3ntific organization and you mispronounce G3N3NT3CH?

rake rock reggae (kkvgz), Tuesday, 21 December 2010 13:19 (thirteen years ago) link

what's so hard about saying gthreenthreentthreech

Insane Clown 2 Electric Juggalo (onimo), Tuesday, 21 December 2010 14:02 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah, so I over-googleproofed...

rake rock reggae (kkvgz), Tuesday, 21 December 2010 14:03 (thirteen years ago) link

boss calls me last thursday to tell me his cat is constipated and he wont be coming in. I reply "thats the worse excuse i've heard since the dog ate my homework". He hangs up. Yesterday he calls me into his office to tell me he was mad because its not a joke when his cat is sick. I asked him if he tried miralax on his cat. He sighed and went home early. Thank god i didn't ask him if he tried an enema on the cat.

Let me explore your musky garden. (chrisv2010), Tuesday, 21 December 2010 14:40 (thirteen years ago) link

People playing christmas songs in my place of work: 0
People wearing comedy santa hats: 0
Stupid, annoying snowmen/santa jpegs on our work webpages: 0
Pointless christmas cards received from people I don't even: 0

Suits the hell out of me.

I mean Emma Watson Premier League fit (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 21 December 2010 20:35 (thirteen years ago) link

my department, which was experimental and new 4 years ago, but became an organized yet somewhat flawed unit is being split apart and moved, despite evidence of massive cost savings. But that is a separate gripe, by now I've resigned myself to the fact that the people who make these decisions are never the right people to do so because they have no idea how anything works or what impacts what and they don't realize until they break something that they shouldn't have touched it.

But anyway, my job's fine, but after the announcement a bunch of us were upset and concerned that we might be let go. Even though we were assured that most likely there'd be a place for us, we were naturally nervous, but you know, we're professionals and we went about our business.

A bunch of us in the dept were assisting with a project that is headed by a person in another department, an insufferable lady who I've had multiple issues with. Of course, once she finds out about our dept splitting, she sends us an email saying she understands we're all concerned, but wants reassurance that we're not going to let the 'distraction' impact the project and that we'll still make sure to give the project the same attention.

Look, lady, talking to us like children in elementary school is NAGL. Yea, I might be concerned, but I'm professional, I'm not going to shirk my responsibilities. I dont' need to proactively tell you "Yes, ma'am, I'm still going to do my job!"

And then I found out after teh split, I'm moving to this lady's department. Goddammit.

yelawolfenstein (San Te), Wednesday, 29 December 2010 14:06 (thirteen years ago) link

In fact, I was recently told that I'm not allowed to take sick days because there's no one else who can do my job.

Holy fuck, that is bullshit of the highest degree. not to mention a stupid business strategy. What would they do if (god forbid) you died or got hospitalized tomorrow, or to a less dramatic degree, quit on the spot tomorrow? Who would do the work then?

And telling people they can't take sick days is the stupidest thing ever. Not only do you piss off/burn out employees who come in when they shouldn't, you get others in the office infected that way which leads to lost productivity when THEY call out.

Hope you get a new job soon.

yelawolfenstein (San Te), Wednesday, 29 December 2010 14:26 (thirteen years ago) link

Our business strategy is to employ lots of line managers, system architects and project managers and no-one to actually do any of the work.

This is not going well.

a fucking stove just fell on my foot. (Colonel Poo), Wednesday, 29 December 2010 14:57 (thirteen years ago) link

I worked in a lovely tolerant place where new management changed the rules on us. Suddenly I was told when I could take vacation or not and how I was expected to be at work on certain days. The problem was that I could only take vacation at certain times of the year. Also I needed to be available a certain time of the year to accompany my mother on vacation...was also told that was inconvenient.

Thank god I am out of there.

you wacky japester (u s steel), Friday, 31 December 2010 14:32 (thirteen years ago) link

Idg how some employers fail to realize that fucking with someone's time away from work is a good way to push away quality employees.

The awesome vacation policy my company has is a large reason I've remained loyal for six years

O'Shea the Cubeman (San Te), Friday, 31 December 2010 14:42 (thirteen years ago) link

just realised the other day that i may not be able to take our planned vacation in may bc there is no one to do my job :/

just1n3, Friday, 31 December 2010 16:45 (thirteen years ago) link

well if no one else realizes....

got electrolytes (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 31 December 2010 16:55 (thirteen years ago) link

Oh man. A couple of years ago I joined a company that told me on day one 'oh btw everyone's being forced to take two weeks of leave this month and you won't be paid'. Three months later they forced everyone to take four days off (I had six AL days at that point). Then a load of laptops were stolen from the building, and the official company line was that we would be docked the cost of our laptop if it were stolen. Then my boss went all single white female (possibly the lowest human being I have ever come across) and I left. Everyone needs to walk away from places like that.

舔我的阳物 (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 31 December 2010 23:08 (thirteen years ago) link

We have a new service for a client going live tomorrow and I worked my ass off to get everything ready and squared in advance. This morning, the following BS:

--We have web chat, and I set it up to start for the new service tomorrow. Idiot in charge processed it early and customers are asking questions that nobody is answering. Checked my emails and idiot was told three times the date was 1/5.

--I am asked yet again about why form letters aren't available on the shared hard drive, and explain for the fifth time that they WONT BE AVAILABLE UNTIL 1/5!

--I find out that back in April,before I joined, the idiots on this team added a form letter to the drive but never set it up with the processing unit.

--I am asked to test changes in our Production system by someone who claims they went through 1/1, when they aren't going through until tonight.

WHAT THE FUCK

those balls look like a butt (San Te), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 17:07 (thirteen years ago) link

used to work in a place where you couldn't take a vacation if another co-worker was out. Asinine. This was also the place where I worked for 11 years and when i hit my 10th yr was supposed to get a fourth week of vacation which was the rule...only to be told that i wasn't grandfathered in under the old policy because i wasn't a VP. FUCK YOU COMPANY. best thing that ever happened to me was getting laid off from that hell hole.

but it could have happened when i was playing tesla (chrisv2010), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 17:16 (thirteen years ago) link

When I started my job, I wasn't given a set number of vacation days. They just said, "Take time off when you need it." Of course, taking time off is so difficult--what with having to do all your work in advance and then pay someone from your tiny budget to fill in for you anyway--that no one ever does it. I only took five days off last year, never more than two days at a time.

lindseykai, Wednesday, 5 January 2011 04:07 (thirteen years ago) link

Client went live today, rough as usual but pretty good, not unusually bad.

But two of the employees they gave us are extremely stupid, can't write professionally, and ask questions that are common sense for the job.

And we've decided to entrust these paperweights to process transactions involving people's finances. Can't wait for the blowback.

those balls look like a butt (San Te), Wednesday, 5 January 2011 20:31 (thirteen years ago) link

Then a load of laptops were stolen from the building, and the official company line was that we would be docked the cost of our laptop if it were stolen. Then my boss went all single white female (possibly the lowest human being I have ever come across) and I left.

You werent working for a psychotic blonde woman named S4m were you? (cos that sounds like N's mentalist old boss)

Ex Loin Tamer (Trayce), Thursday, 6 January 2011 06:05 (thirteen years ago) link

Nah, description fits but different name.

"Smurfette's Smurfy Adventsmurf" (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 6 January 2011 06:10 (thirteen years ago) link

urgh, woman from one of our other offices comes in once a week, consistently smells of piss and her fingernails are shit brown. and she was just talking to me with a mouth full of food. fucking disgusting.

cocklamoose (chrisv2010), Thursday, 6 January 2011 20:01 (thirteen years ago) link

and now she is sitting by me chomping and smelling like piss. move it lady.

cocklamoose (chrisv2010), Thursday, 6 January 2011 20:03 (thirteen years ago) link

her breath smells of rotten beets. god get away from me and stop talking your making me sick.

cocklamoose (chrisv2010), Thursday, 6 January 2011 20:08 (thirteen years ago) link

Tell her!

earnest goes to camp, ironic goes to ilm (pixel farmer), Thursday, 6 January 2011 20:09 (thirteen years ago) link

nowe shes got her shit spread all over my desk

cocklamoose (chrisv2010), Thursday, 6 January 2011 20:14 (thirteen years ago) link

one more giant gulp of her water im gonna scream.

cocklamoose (chrisv2010), Thursday, 6 January 2011 20:16 (thirteen years ago) link

CAN YOU GULP ANY LOUDER PISS WOMAN.

cocklamoose (chrisv2010), Thursday, 6 January 2011 20:16 (thirteen years ago) link

my desk is not a fast food restaurant.

cocklamoose (chrisv2010), Thursday, 6 January 2011 20:17 (thirteen years ago) link

thank god, she's now moved on to my directors office to stink it up with piss.

cocklamoose (chrisv2010), Thursday, 6 January 2011 20:31 (thirteen years ago) link

urgh, woman from one of our other offices comes in once a week, consistently smells of piss and her fingernails are shit brown

How is she still employed? This stuff boggles my mind.

buildings with goats on the roof (James Morrison), Thursday, 6 January 2011 23:58 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm sick of getting overlooked this week! for the live client, I'm supposed to join the rest of the team for 2 days, so I brought my laptop down to that floor, but since they didn't have any plugs left in the room, they shoved me into a vacant office, which was nice and spacious.

so yesterday they go to Steak 'n Shake to get everyone milkshakes and I ordered one, and never got it. why? oh they came back with them, but nobody bothered to come by and drop mine off or tell me. and i was inundated to where unless I had to piss or shit, I really couldn't leave my desk.

so today, I'm busy and stressed out and the same manager who took my shake order tells me she's going to get lunch, and can I watch the floor for like an hour cuz everyone's in a meeting (which isn't my job, but whatever). I'm assuming this means we're all getting sandwiches or pizza, which is the norm. Nope, turns out they went around to all of the customer service reps and managers, everybody BUT ME taking food orders.

So they come back with the burgers and one course I'm the ONLY ASSHOLE they didn't take an order for. the main dude in charge was apologetic but it wasn't his fault, it was the same stupid twats who apparently have glaucoma when they walk by my door. after six hours of working without a break, this was infuriating.

but I lucked out -- they had extras left over. still tho, twicei n two days.

those balls look like a butt (San Te), Friday, 7 January 2011 04:13 (thirteen years ago) link

i made sure to fart extra times in the office as retribution

those balls look like a butt (San Te), Friday, 7 January 2011 04:15 (thirteen years ago) link

Poison their food. Won't be suspicious that you don't get gastro, since nobody feeds you anyway. Laugh as they crap themselves at their desks.

buildings with goats on the roof (James Morrison), Friday, 7 January 2011 04:39 (thirteen years ago) link

a deluge of doodoo does in the department

those balls look like a butt (San Te), Friday, 7 January 2011 04:44 (thirteen years ago) link

How is she still employed? This stuff boggles my mind.

And she's the director of one of our programs here. She's disgusting. I can't tell if its piss or her vag that stinks.

Moonlight Graham (chrisv2010), Friday, 7 January 2011 15:34 (thirteen years ago) link

work's gettin better but two pet peeves come up today:

1. Asking me questions while I'm either on lunch break or jumping on me the moment I walk in the door. I'm doing floor support for the same client this week and I was carrying a laptop, several cables, a mouse, headphones, shitload of stuff, and was headed back up to my floor when a dude flags me down and begs me to help him with his question. To make matters worse, it's a really dumb question that nonetheless takes 5 minutes to explain while I have my hands full.

Likewise, if I'm on lunch break, don't disturb me. Lunch breaks are supposed to not contain work, that's why they're called breaks.

2. Chick that's helping our team out this week begs to be taken off the phones because the customers are "being mean". WELCOME TO CALL CENTERS. seriously, obviously if someone is cussing you out that's unacceptable, and we'll take it up with their HR department (I've gotten abusive callers disciplined severely before)....but ya know, customers have a right to be angry and/or upset, even if it's irrational. You can't just shirk your responsibilities cuz CUSTOMERS R MADDDDDDDDDDDD.

mavisbeacon666 (San Te), Tuesday, 11 January 2011 02:34 (thirteen years ago) link

Hearty lols at someone being suprised customers are "being mean", jesus. I've known people who werent even allowed to release/hang up on a customer even after DEATH THREATS. o_0

Ex Loin Tamer (Trayce), Tuesday, 11 January 2011 02:44 (thirteen years ago) link

We once had a gent inform one of our guys that he was a high ranking Qld cop, he would find out where we all worked, and come down and tear this guy a new arsehole. Charming.

Ex Loin Tamer (Trayce), Tuesday, 11 January 2011 02:44 (thirteen years ago) link

ahh hell we have a whole security form if someone makes death threats, which have happened before, but never lead to anythiing (thankfully). but I mean all this was was people going "I'M MAD OOOOOGGGGGHHHH".

seriously though, I don't get it. it's not like retail/public customer service where someone can be spitting in your face and you can't walk away from it. you have a headset THAT YOU CAN TAKE OFF or MUTE and vent in your own private haven.

xpost oh man I hate people like that

mavisbeacon666 (San Te), Tuesday, 11 January 2011 02:47 (thirteen years ago) link

we did one time have this lady who had some kinda severe disturbance call a few times and SHRIEK in an unwarranted manner at my reps. the first time she screamed "FUCK...YOU!" at the rep, who hung up on her (as she was allowed to do)...got her warned by the Vice President, and dumb lady did it again a few months later, and within weeks she was separated from her job.

mavisbeacon666 (San Te), Tuesday, 11 January 2011 02:48 (thirteen years ago) link

(the caller that is, not my rep)

mavisbeacon666 (San Te), Tuesday, 11 January 2011 02:48 (thirteen years ago) link

God I hat listening to calls cuz it reminds me that our reps are all glorified gluehuffers

mavisbeacon666 (San Te), Tuesday, 11 January 2011 12:02 (thirteen years ago) link

Ugh. We have such a pussy-assed culture of non-accountability in this company now.

I am all for not being "fire and brimstone" with employees as that's a good way to ensure everybody quits but lord when I was a rep on the phones I'd have been fired if I was as incompetent as some of the people they're throwing at us.

And equally frustrating the hours I spent to build their tools only for them to not use them and immediately ask for help without even trying to find the info first. Coddled. I did this job when the tools were more primitive so I can't say I feel sorry for them.

mavisbeacon666 (San Te), Tuesday, 11 January 2011 20:52 (thirteen years ago) link

Haha you sound like my bff when he was the TL of a helpdesk I used to work on :)

1981 Nothing happened. (Trayce), Tuesday, 11 January 2011 21:06 (thirteen years ago) link

"WE WROTE A WIKI AND THEY WONT EVEN READ IT"

1981 Nothing happened. (Trayce), Tuesday, 11 January 2011 21:06 (thirteen years ago) link

People get SO entitled about work wikis. They spend hours populating the thing and disgruntledly rocket-launch it at anyone who has the temerity to ask a simple question.

Suppositori Spelling (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 11 January 2011 21:28 (thirteen years ago) link

Lol that's a bit diff. These are tools that from day 1 they are told they have to use on every call. Its supposed to be hardwired from day 1 but more and more people want to have things done for them than to learn.

I find no matter how annoyed I get, I always respond politely, and tell them the exact coordinates of where they can find the info and give a short answer. That way they get an answer but note that in the future they shouldn't have to ask it.

mavisbeacon666 (San Te), Tuesday, 11 January 2011 22:08 (thirteen years ago) link

Well in this case tools u use/wiki were effectively one and the same - the scripts and troubleshooting for the level 1 helpdesk potplants. And yet they'd ask "how do I look up an authentication failure again?" or "why does Outlook Express give that error again?" to the frazzled TLs/senior reps over and over and BLOODY OVER.

1981 Nothing happened. (Trayce), Tuesday, 11 January 2011 23:28 (thirteen years ago) link

...I'm so glad I work in provisioning now.

1981 Nothing happened. (Trayce), Tuesday, 11 January 2011 23:28 (thirteen years ago) link

Tho I do miss that job. The guys I worked with were awesome (and I dated more than one of em, ha)

1981 Nothing happened. (Trayce), Tuesday, 11 January 2011 23:29 (thirteen years ago) link

i love when they ask a question with like little to no info.

'why come this customer acct no work'

"OH, YOU MUST BE TALKING ABOUT FRANK MILLER-RUIZ, WE KNOW ALL ABOUT HIS PORTFOLIO, HERE'S ALL YOU NEED TO KNOW"

mavisbeacon666 (San Te), Wednesday, 12 January 2011 01:08 (thirteen years ago) link

that said I do like my job it's just I get bummed when I see how far we've fallen in customer service due to budget cuts. when I started, it was soooooooooooo much better.

mavisbeacon666 (San Te), Wednesday, 12 January 2011 01:09 (thirteen years ago) link

Ha, you speak my language.

1981 Nothing happened. (Trayce), Wednesday, 12 January 2011 01:11 (thirteen years ago) link

lol. (clinks beer stein)

mavisbeacon666 (San Te), Wednesday, 12 January 2011 01:14 (thirteen years ago) link

Also bugs me lately that some of the reps make it sound like their job is the toughest and nobody understands it.

Don't seem to realize that most of those who graduated to other positions started in customer service, and on our worst days, secretly wish to go back because of how easy/low-responsibility it is in comparison. Most of the reps don't wake up in the middle of the night because of fear that some major thing is gonna explode and bring shame to the company!

mavisbeacon666 (San Te), Wednesday, 12 January 2011 13:31 (thirteen years ago) link

Going to complain about me now. Ill never be able to be a manager as I'm too irritable and impatient.

Better than I was four years ago for sure, but I have too hot of a temper and it will forever hold me back

mavisbeacon666 (San Te), Wednesday, 12 January 2011 16:12 (thirteen years ago) link

^^^ huge plus if you're aware of that imo. Lots of managers don't. They're the ones that are not good at being a manager, in general.

willem, Wednesday, 12 January 2011 16:43 (thirteen years ago) link

don't = aren't

willem, Wednesday, 12 January 2011 16:45 (thirteen years ago) link

we're letting some of the trouble employees go. they weren't full-timers, just contractors, but even if they really suck, I always feel bad about it. I mean while I was frustrated with them, you always hope they'll turn the corner.

The good news is one of the people on my "bang head on table" list last week actually looks like she has improved a lot since then...THAT'S what I like to see.

mavisbeacon666 (San Te), Thursday, 13 January 2011 02:54 (thirteen years ago) link

Someone a few desks over is playing "9 to 5 (morning train)" by Sheena Easton really loud. I fucking HATE that song.

Stargazey Pi (Trayce), Friday, 14 January 2011 05:45 (thirteen years ago) link

This doesn't help you but I LOVE the verses.

a can, a mla, a nmutua ― (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 14 January 2011 05:48 (thirteen years ago) link

Dead to me, you.

Stargazey Pi (Trayce), Friday, 14 January 2011 05:56 (thirteen years ago) link

So today is my last day helping this team. Overall it helped me network so it was a good thing.

But this dumb person who is in a plan admin group sent me a request through a database to have a rep call someone.

I didn't see it, as I don't regularly check it...so she emails the guy whose name is similar to mine not one time but twice, not noticing the different location, spelling, or thinking it odd that he seemed utterly confused.

Finally he figured it out and sent to me. I gave her feedback not to send these to me, but the actual manager, and instead of apologizing and going "oh ok", she gives a passive aggressive "oh ok, but your name was in the list".

Yea it was in the list...along with two other names. That doesn't constitute that you can assign me something without clearing it first, especially since you know I'm not the manager. My name was in the list for a good reason that didn't involve you!

And regarding the emails its not my fault someone has a similar name to me, what am I supposed to do about that?

strawberry shartcake (San Te), Friday, 14 January 2011 16:42 (thirteen years ago) link

smelly shit/piss/vag lady is back, hovering and being all around annoying. "oh I hear you used to work as a financial analyst, was wondering if you can put together some budgets and spreadsheets". Hey piss vag, im not an accountant nor was i ever.

Moonlight Graham (chrisv2010), Friday, 14 January 2011 17:01 (thirteen years ago) link

The asshats who request call reviews half the time won't give details for why. Hey fucks, we are not going to transcribe the call for you so how about telling us what we're listening for?

Some have said they do it on purpose because they think we will leave out important stuff if they give us a specific topic but the opposite is actually true - like I can't confirm something "didn't" happen if I don't know that it was alleged to have happened!

metal panda (San Te), Wednesday, 19 January 2011 14:13 (thirteen years ago) link

I really want to know what would happen if chrisv2010 said the phrase "Hey, piss vag" out loud

buildings with goats on the roof (James Morrison), Wednesday, 19 January 2011 22:45 (thirteen years ago) link

Please, please stop beginning every sentence you utter with the phrase "I like". ("I like, don't know if I'll finish this report today", "I like, might go get some lunch", "I like, think I have a question") This is popcorn girl, btw.

one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 20 January 2011 15:31 (thirteen years ago) link

"I like popcorn"

onimo, Thursday, 20 January 2011 15:33 (thirteen years ago) link

No no, you've got it all wrong. It would be, "I like, like popcorn".

one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 20 January 2011 15:34 (thirteen years ago) link

she sounds like she's 15.

got electrolytes (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 20 January 2011 15:59 (thirteen years ago) link

Thats actually a pretty good description of how she acts most of the time, but, sadly, she's at least 10 years older than that.

one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 20 January 2011 16:11 (thirteen years ago) link

Lady who spends at least two hours per day arguing with her son (who is on probation), talking to her deskmate complaining about other people, and who once loudly told an estranged ex-husband to "go to hell and burn" in the middle of the floor...is now complaining about someone else's "personal conversation".

i love tampon spaceship (San Te), Thursday, 20 January 2011 18:34 (thirteen years ago) link

Hmm I mean that she told him to go to hell on the phone, weird wording

i love tampon spaceship (San Te), Thursday, 20 January 2011 18:36 (thirteen years ago) link

Thanks whoever came to my desk while I was out and used my expensive book to rest their paper on while they took down a phone number. I really wanted big-arse numbers engraved in the cover from the pressure of your biro.

buildings with goats on the roof (James Morrison), Friday, 21 January 2011 05:11 (thirteen years ago) link

motherfuckers

whole lotta cocorosie (electricsound), Friday, 21 January 2011 05:14 (thirteen years ago) link

should be executed imo

i love tampon spaceship (San Te), Friday, 21 January 2011 06:07 (thirteen years ago) link

All positives today! Our department is being dissoved Feb 1 and we are moving to new departments. I'm pretty much doing the same work, but under a new manager (THANK GOD), one whom I already know and respect.

And because our department is being dissolved and I won't have to deal with the idiots in the customer service wing anymore, it has been fun this week being very direct and stern with the morons tha I used to be able to be. Obv can't go too OTT cuz I still work here but what do I care if they don't like our dept, it won't exist anymore on Feb 1!

i love tampon spaceship (San Te), Friday, 21 January 2011 15:05 (thirteen years ago) link

omg omg omg omg omg omg omg popcorn girl just called and cancelled her dinner reservations for tonight because they "don't have any reviews on Yelp" and gave that as her reason and told them "how can you run a business without Yelp reviews?" omg does she not know how the world works?

one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 21 January 2011 16:28 (thirteen years ago) link

There's a very sad unread Zagat guide in her house somewhere. Also if you don't read a review first how do you know the foods not poison?

i love tampon spaceship (San Te), Friday, 21 January 2011 16:32 (thirteen years ago) link

probably mentioned this before, but it continues apace

i work in a cubicle-filled room. the 'boss' (with whom i have never spoken) has his own office on one side. he keeps the door open and insists on taking all his calls -- despite being the only person in his office -- on speakerphone. at incredible volume.

a) does he really think his callers would be happy knowing 15 unknown people were listening in?
b) the conversations are so mundane that it leads one to question what it is he actually does
c) what a dick

mookieproof, Friday, 21 January 2011 16:38 (thirteen years ago) link

You wish to claim a day's leave as time off in lieu for one day's travel even though the travel was on a work day, because the travel took 14 hours and not 8 hours. Despite the fact that you spent it watching movies on the plane and did not do one stroke of work; took plenty of time to do personal stuff during working hours while away; and you have 30 days' leave entitlement per year. Yes, it kind of says you can do this in our organisation's policies, but actually doing it, at your grade, under those circumstances, is kind of shameful. You are leaving soon and I cannot be arsed to have a huge argument with you about it.

ljubljana, Saturday, 22 January 2011 03:21 (thirteen years ago) link

it kind of says you can do this in our organisation's policies

that's key though. like that david mitchell article about tax loopholes and the moral outrage about people who take advantage of them. if they're there, they're gonna be used.

NI, Saturday, 22 January 2011 16:00 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah, I know. Most people don't use them, though. I'm just disappointed.

ljubljana, Saturday, 22 January 2011 16:54 (thirteen years ago) link

Dunno about the rest of this person's faults, but watching movies on plane doesn't negate the fact that their time was spent on something they wouldn't have done if not on work travel. It might be idle time but it still wasn't his or her own to do other stuff with.

Otherwise complaints otm.

go peddle your bullshit somewhere else sister (Laurel), Saturday, 22 January 2011 17:24 (thirteen years ago) link

Oh wait, travel was on work day during normal working hours?? Never mind!

go peddle your bullshit somewhere else sister (Laurel), Saturday, 22 January 2011 17:25 (thirteen years ago) link

travel took 14 hours and not 8 hours

that's six hours of sitting on a plane/fucking around at an airport at work's behest. Stupid annoying co-worker otm.

onimo, Monday, 24 January 2011 11:21 (thirteen years ago) link

My stupid annoying co-workers are alternating between usual Monday morning golf post-mortems and some shit about immigrants that I am doing my best to ignore.

onimo, Monday, 24 January 2011 11:22 (thirteen years ago) link

xpost yeah, I understand why, in theory, they can claim for 6 hours. But if that's the attitude we're taken, I should be saying 'ok, claim for it - remember to knock off the 3.5 hours you spent getting your hair dyed during working hours, though'.

ljubljana, Monday, 24 January 2011 12:21 (thirteen years ago) link

Boss: "hey just letting you know that [customer I work with a lot, IT for big storage company chain] is visiting this morning so he'll come by and say hi".
Me: "oh cool that'll be nice!"
...5 mins later
Co-worker: "hey... B told you [aforementioned customer] is visiting right, so yuo have to clean up your desk?"
Me: *looks in bafflement at my perfectly clean desk* "uhh... it *is* clean, and she didn't mention anything about that to me, just that he's popping in and will come by and say hello?"
Co-worker: "oh uh... ok..."

I'm now wondering if boss told HIM to clean his desk, and he's assumed its everyone elses duty too... sigh.

Stargazey Pi (Trayce), Monday, 24 January 2011 22:37 (thirteen years ago) link

Said boss, other boss and sales have now taken said customer to the bloody tennis.

Alright for some!

Stargazey Pi (Trayce), Monday, 24 January 2011 23:37 (thirteen years ago) link

would much rather be at work than tennis

bouquet brigade (electricsound), Monday, 24 January 2011 23:39 (thirteen years ago) link

Good point that.

Stargazey Pi (Trayce), Monday, 24 January 2011 23:45 (thirteen years ago) link

ripped the Diet Pepsi note off the fridge today. was fucking tired of looking at it.

show me your ticks (San Te), Tuesday, 25 January 2011 00:03 (thirteen years ago) link

San te you need to change yr 'career ' stat.
Seriously

calling planet dearth (sunny successor), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 10:17 (thirteen years ago) link

the amount of laziness by the people here is astonishing how hard is it to empty the shredder rather than leave the bag completely full? Or wipe up the table in the lunch room.

Beardie you disappoint me (chrisv2010), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 14:29 (thirteen years ago) link

@sunny - nah, I love my company, just hate the current job I have. And my manager, who is a good guy, but always interrupts you.

I tried unsuccessfully on 10 (no exaggeration) occasions to post for a new position, but no luck.

Fortunately, on feb 1, I start a new position with a much better manager and it looks to be the invigorating change ill need after four years in the other dept.

emma goldbond (San Te), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 15:08 (thirteen years ago) link

Oh god, I hate politics in the workplace, when I agree with someone's politics it's even worse...number one because I don't believe in politics in the workplace, number two because people who agree the majority of the time are expected to get along.

university of, drunk off your butt, etc. (u s steel), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 15:22 (thirteen years ago) link

Otm. I don't come to work to talk about that stuff and it can only turn ot bad. There is a jackass who posts his neocon paranoia on the bulletin board each month, and everyone hates him. He mocks peoples ideas for going green like they are fringe lunatics.

There is one coworker I discuss politics with but we keep it to instant messaging so other people aren't forced to hear it.

emma goldbond (San Te), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 15:45 (thirteen years ago) link

Growing wary of people who:

A. Send a meeting request to you for the next day +
B. Do so without having discussed it with you in advance +
C. Write the body of the invite so you still have no clue what the purpose of the meeting is +
D. Don't take time zones/shifts into consideration and request it for a time late afternoon when I'm already gone for the day.

Rejected.

emma goldbond (San Te), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 18:25 (thirteen years ago) link

Hate you HR women telling me to cut my hair

Umm, I think that's my glass. (laser precise purpose maker era), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 18:33 (thirteen years ago) link

so i handle the day to day operations of managing the office as well as my other responsibilites...so today i met with the pest control guy about our mice problem. People complain to me daily about the mice issue but yet refuse to do anything about it, like clean up crumbs (or a half a loaf of bread opened) on their desks..etc. LAZY.

^do you work for the Marine Corp?

Beardie you disappoint me (chrisv2010), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 18:33 (thirteen years ago) link

No, it's a mostly low stress IT related school job. After a month of insinuations and then veiled threats I had to do it but I basically have the same haircut just shorter and a bit more stylish.

LOOK LADY IF I WANTED TO LOOK LIKE A COP I WOULD HAVE JOINED THE MILITARY STOP BUGGING ME OK

Umm, I think that's my glass. (laser precise purpose maker era), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 18:44 (thirteen years ago) link

maybe you work for Ron Swanson? "three acceptable styles: high and tight, crew cut, buzz cut"

Beardie you disappoint me (chrisv2010), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 18:57 (thirteen years ago) link

Well, the administration is some sort of protestant church and when they interviewed me I was sporting a buzz cut just for the kicks after almost a year of really long and messy hair.

I definitely gave them the wrong impression of what I usually look like.

Umm, I think that's my glass. (laser precise purpose maker era), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 19:07 (thirteen years ago) link

haha.

Cultivating a manly musk puts your opponents on notice (chrisv2010), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 19:11 (thirteen years ago) link

Omfg I totally mistook this girl in my office for Jaleel White.

emma goldbond (San Te), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 19:53 (thirteen years ago) link

my wife met him on marthas vineyard years ago.

Cultivating a manly musk puts your opponents on notice (chrisv2010), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 20:00 (thirteen years ago) link

Can I ask y'all something? If you were to tell somebody that a service would be available for a "0ne t1me fee", what would that mean? how often should they expect to pay for that service?

kkvgz, Wednesday, 26 January 2011 21:03 (thirteen years ago) link

haha.

Cultivating a manly musk puts your opponents on notice (chrisv2010), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 21:04 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm almost second-guessing myself here. It's not synonymous with "annual fee", is it?

kkvgz, Wednesday, 26 January 2011 21:06 (thirteen years ago) link

whats it for?

Cultivating a manly musk puts your opponents on notice (chrisv2010), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 21:07 (thirteen years ago) link

we are putting together a case statement to subscribe to a service that costs $1000 per year. my co-worker sent out an email describing it as a "one time fee of $1000". i got into a debate with him about the meaning and clarity of the phrase, to which he suggested the compromise of calling it a "one time annual fee".

kkvgz, Wednesday, 26 January 2011 21:12 (thirteen years ago) link

your colleague has a future in politics

mookieproof, Wednesday, 26 January 2011 21:16 (thirteen years ago) link

call it a "small one-time annual fee" and you get full marks

Not the real Village People, Wednesday, 26 January 2011 21:17 (thirteen years ago) link

"One-time" fee means just that - one time. A reader would likely and validly assume that they only have to pay it once, ever.

All you really have to say is "annual fee". Unlike "one-time", there can be no semantic debate as to what it means - annual means occurring once per year.

Your friend must enjoy lawsuits

emma goldbond (San Te), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 21:32 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah one time is one time.

Cultivating a manly musk puts your opponents on notice (chrisv2010), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 21:33 (thirteen years ago) link

I get probably 4-5 meeting invites with no explanation a day.

I work at this crazy company that ADORES meetings. I will have, on average, 7-8 meetings a day. They get moved, cancelled, blah blah at an alarming rate. I swear half of my job is going to meetings and setting up meetings.

My pet peeve: be on time to the damn meetings, people.

homosexual II, Wednesday, 26 January 2011 21:37 (thirteen years ago) link

The number of meetings set up during lunch and after 5 really irk me, too

homosexual II, Wednesday, 26 January 2011 21:40 (thirteen years ago) link

Also, the 2.5 hour meeting I had from 4-6:30 last night wherein people just stared at projected images and really ~thought hard~ about them was a bit much for me, too

homosexual II, Wednesday, 26 January 2011 21:40 (thirteen years ago) link

Dimbulb associate sends request to review a call, but leaves an entire digit out of the phone extension.

I write back asking for it - she emails back, and I open it up to see she didn't write anything, just copied what I wrote but didn't add anything new.

I write back again, saying I see she sent an email with no text, had she meant to attach something. She says no, no attachment, "just to listen to the call".

People like this should get grenades instead of paychecks.

emma goldbond (San Te), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 22:00 (thirteen years ago) link

Oh, she left the time off too. In the spot for time she wrote someones name. Smh

emma goldbond (San Te), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 22:15 (thirteen years ago) link

You're not gonna do it, are you?

전승 Complete Victory (in Battle) (NotEnough), Thursday, 27 January 2011 09:11 (thirteen years ago) link

do what, send a grenade?

teen laqueefah (San Te), Thursday, 27 January 2011 11:33 (thirteen years ago) link

Either stop sucking your fucking teeth and making stupid clicky noises, or visit the fucking dentist, for fuck's fucking sake.

― James Mitchell, Monday, 11 October 2010 09:11 (3 months ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

(3 months ago)! And he's still doing it. Jesus Christ on fucking fire.

James Mitchell, Thursday, 27 January 2011 14:34 (thirteen years ago) link

Oh my fucking god if I have to hear popcorn girl tell one more person that her "sister's boyfriend's cousin's old roommate dated a girl that's on American Idol" while she giggles and claps her hands like a fucking four year-old I'm going to fly into an uncontrollable rage and explode.

one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 27 January 2011 15:44 (thirteen years ago) link

"Bee Tee Dubs...I'll be calling in sick on Superbowl Monday"

I was so excited when he said this.

1.)using internet abbreviations in actual life!
2.)telling me that you're going to call out from work the very week that our boss told me to let him know when you were slacking off from work!
3.)you reminded me of Matos' mother's incredibly stupid ex-husband!

kkvgz, Saturday, 29 January 2011 12:19 (thirteen years ago) link

getting more and more excited as I get closer to 2/1. the more I hear about my new dept, the more I think I won't have to post here as much!

that said, I'll wrap up with leftovers. So stupid girl from the other day, despite 5-7 emails, has not given me the time of the call. emailed her manager with the feedback, asked to escalate the issue so it could be done. no reply. asked the other people who were listed as contacts to look it up for me. no reply. asked one of the people who were responsible for the request for it. no reply.

and I get return receipt on these things so I know they're getting the messages. tempted to just cancel it and go 'ya know apparently you don't need this work done, so hey, submit this again when you're ready to stop being retarded'

eep opp ork ah ah...and that means suck my dick (San Te), Saturday, 29 January 2011 13:22 (thirteen years ago) link

If the three of you don't shut the hell up about how "awesome" and "amazing" the Black Eyed Peas were last night I'm going to throw the printer at you. Also, popcorn girl, interjecting with random facts about the band that you just saw on wikipedia is making it approximately fourteen times worse. "Did you guys know one of the guys in the band is legally blind?", "Did you guys know Fergie is married?". Argh argh argh, Monday murderous rage.

one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 7 February 2011 18:15 (thirteen years ago) link

haha.

forgive me for making a bag of microwave popcorn today and all...but someone just walked by my desk as i was eating it and said "it smells like popcorn in here!" NO FUCKING SHIT.

Cultivating a manly musk puts your opponents on notice (chrisv2010), Monday, 7 February 2011 18:18 (thirteen years ago) link

Assuming thats not your third bag of the day and its not 8:05 AM, then you're all good.

one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 7 February 2011 18:21 (thirteen years ago) link

so far enjoying my new department a lot, it seems much more organized. complaint today isn't even about a co-worker, it's about a client, and for work I completed months ago.

building training materials for an implementation, and had the client review them for accuracy. this is normal because sometimes we might misinterpet one of their plan provisions or something. it's normal to expect minor corrections to come back.

One of the ladies reviewing is an absolute shithead, and seems angry that there were any issues at all. She corrected a lot of the grammar that wasn't wrong to begin with into clumsy sentences (none of which I will be using), and when there was a provisional mistake, she pointed it out in mocking language. In one place she wrote a sarcastic "Really?" Um, it's in the requirements you signed off on months ago, so if that's wrong, you have problems!

The worst was though there was a minor mistake in a sample calculation for pension payments that is meant only as a guide for customer service reps. It was just a simple numerical typo in a scenario that was an easy two second fix, and she types angrily in all caps her correction to it.

Yea, all of this is really helpful, idiot. Fortunately everybody at my company agrees with my assessment of her and says she's being ridiculous.

door to door legume salesman (San Te), Monday, 7 February 2011 23:17 (thirteen years ago) link

There's a guy in the office here that is always extremely nice, I don't harbor any ill will towards him, but he is one of those people that almost constantly offers commentary on mundane things.

"Hey there young lady, I see you've got your boots on. Ready for the snow?"
"Hello sir, you've got your tea, huh?"
"Why hello, looks like you've got yourself a box there."
"You've got a coat on, don't you?"

I kind of feel like he needs to address everyone and picks out the most obvious thing to comment on.

one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 9 February 2011 16:16 (thirteen years ago) link

"Why hello, looks like you've got yourself a box there."

irl lol at this

Most women do not like atheism.(8)(9)(10) (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 9 February 2011 20:34 (thirteen years ago) link

That one and the first one were verbatim from earlier today, the others were 95% accurate approximations of other things he has said.

one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 9 February 2011 20:43 (thirteen years ago) link

I had a big rant brewin' yesterday about a workmate but now, after sleep, it has disappated and I dont care anymore.

Solution: every time someone pisses me off at work, just fall asleep at my desk.

Senor DingDong (Trayce), Wednesday, 9 February 2011 20:50 (thirteen years ago) link

Perhaps it will help me to spell properly, also.

Senor DingDong (Trayce), Wednesday, 9 February 2011 20:50 (thirteen years ago) link

There is a guy I work with who is a heroin addict. I am an electrician and have worked with him now for about three years. I like the guy but he really annoys me with his self deluded rambling after his 'dinner'.

Every day wherever we happen to be working he has to go off on his own for half an hour or more for his 'dinner'. Sometimes he returns with a flaky manurfactured story about his struggle to find a sandwich shop or just generally some dull blatantly untrue anecdote that is supposed to distract me from his dilated pupils and gouched out demeanour.

I have joked with him before about his addiction and he pleaded with me never to talk about it as he would lose his job if he was exposed. I just hate the way since then he keeps up this charade that I am one of the people who doesn't know his secret.

I just wish he would be honest and say "I am rattling right now and I need to do some gear. I am just nipping down to the Tesco Express toilets with my tinfoil and lighter".

Damo Suzuki's Parrot, Wednesday, 9 February 2011 21:14 (thirteen years ago) link

STOP SENDING ME STUPID QUESTIONS VIA MSN EVERY 15 MINUTES AND INTERRUPTING MY TRAIN OF THOUGHT/WORKFLOW ARGH. THE ANSWERS U SEEK ARE RIGHT THERE IN THE NOTES IN FRONT OF YOU IN THE DAMN DATABASE.

*flails*

Senor DingDong (Trayce), Thursday, 10 February 2011 00:34 (thirteen years ago) link

fuck that fucking puppet and all it stands for

Most women do not like atheism.(8)(9)(10) (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 10 February 2011 00:35 (thirteen years ago) link

it has no legs 4d4m

down in the eustachian tube at midnight (electricsound), Thursday, 10 February 2011 00:36 (thirteen years ago) link

i could fill this entire thread with stories relating to the thing that fucking puppet represents

anyway

Most women do not like atheism.(8)(9)(10) (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 10 February 2011 00:39 (thirteen years ago) link

Fuck that puppet and all it socks for

Senor DingDong (Trayce), Thursday, 10 February 2011 00:40 (thirteen years ago) link

Man we're shitting up a lot of threads today aint we

Senor DingDong (Trayce), Thursday, 10 February 2011 00:40 (thirteen years ago) link

looooooool

down in the eustachian tube at midnight (electricsound), Thursday, 10 February 2011 00:41 (thirteen years ago) link

meanwhile the mongrel thread sits dormant

Most women do not like atheism.(8)(9)(10) (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 10 February 2011 00:45 (thirteen years ago) link

i like it when you guys come out of your ghetto!

got electrolytes (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 10 February 2011 02:52 (thirteen years ago) link

Hey I'm out here all the time, not my fault if you dont NOTICE *sulks*

Senor DingDong (Trayce), Thursday, 10 February 2011 02:57 (thirteen years ago) link

it hurts me when u lie like that. :(

got electrolytes (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 10 February 2011 03:00 (thirteen years ago) link

Awwww U know I <3 u man.

Senor DingDong (Trayce), Thursday, 10 February 2011 03:03 (thirteen years ago) link

This one girl. This ONE girl. Ugh. First of all, she has this whiny voice that cuts through every single thought in my head. Not a thought in her head goes by without her flapping her gums about first.
Every time, every single fucking time they upgrade our computers or she buys a new laptop or she buys a new phone, she is constantly saying "My (blah) is doing this! Why is it doing this! I have tried and tried and I can't get it to work" and calling help desks and asking every single person who walks by, asking the same questions over and over because whenever someone gives her the answer, she does nothing. Fuck, when they upgraded her computer to the latest Office suite she paged our IT guy 5 times a day for a week about shit like how come her email inbox looks different, and where did this email go, and how come there's all these symbols all over my Word document, and where did my formatting bar go... and it honestly takes every ounce of patience I have in me just to sit next to her every day.

VegemiteGrrl, Thursday, 10 February 2011 03:09 (thirteen years ago) link

Hahah oh god, people who need babying like that are the worst.

..that said I've managed to hose the launch icon for Outlook off my computer alltogether and I havrnt had the heart to ask anyone to look at it cause it seems so dumb, so I've been starting outlook from its exe file in Explorer for a week now. Embarrassing.

Senor DingDong (Trayce), Thursday, 10 February 2011 03:45 (thirteen years ago) link

win+r -> 'outlook'

Most women do not like atheism.(8)(9)(10) (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 10 February 2011 03:46 (thirteen years ago) link

! fuck! So obvious. Thankyou. *smacks self in forehead*

Senor DingDong (Trayce), Thursday, 10 February 2011 03:50 (thirteen years ago) link

To bring it back, go to Outlook.exe in your C: and right-click on it to create a shortcut on the desktop

It's probably at C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office\Office11\Outlook.exe
or C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office\Office12\Outlook.exe
or similar

the most cuddlesome bug that ever was borned (James Morrison), Thursday, 10 February 2011 03:59 (thirteen years ago) link

icons are so 20th century

Most women do not like atheism.(8)(9)(10) (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 10 February 2011 04:03 (thirteen years ago) link

Well um, I know perfectly well how to create a shortcut.

The problem is, with outlook.exe I cannot do this. Wether it is the way the permissions are set on the network here or somehting I dont know, but it doesnt let me make a shortcut to the desktop, OR a quicklaunch icon.

I can do it with other things. Its weird.

Senor DingDong (Trayce), Thursday, 10 February 2011 04:18 (thirteen years ago) link

LOL sorry I didnt mean that to sound so snotty =)

Senor DingDong (Trayce), Thursday, 10 February 2011 04:19 (thirteen years ago) link

is your control panel locked down? you could do a repair or something

down in the eustachian tube at midnight (electricsound), Thursday, 10 February 2011 04:27 (thirteen years ago) link

Hm, didnt think of that, I'll ave a squiz.

Senor DingDong (Trayce), Thursday, 10 February 2011 04:40 (thirteen years ago) link

Hm i dont think i better touch this shit.

Senor DingDong (Trayce), Thursday, 10 February 2011 04:42 (thirteen years ago) link

sorry!

the most cuddlesome bug that ever was borned (James Morrison), Thursday, 10 February 2011 04:43 (thirteen years ago) link

James; its ok! It was a perfectly valid suggestion! :) I dont know why it doesnt work!

Senor DingDong (Trayce), Thursday, 10 February 2011 04:47 (thirteen years ago) link

:)

the most cuddlesome bug that ever was borned (James Morrison), Thursday, 10 February 2011 05:01 (thirteen years ago) link

So a follow-up on super observational bro from yesterday. A little context first, it has been really cold here in Chicago all week with temperatures hovering just above 0 degrees F most of the week, but dipped down to seven below (before including any windchill this morning). Anyway, after this guy got to work he has spent the last 40 minutes walking up to everyone saying "boy, it's cold out!".

one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 10 February 2011 14:40 (thirteen years ago) link

that dude is seriously my favorite person in the world right now

partially because he is in Chicago and I am not

Indolence Mission (DJP), Thursday, 10 February 2011 15:15 (thirteen years ago) link

boy its cold out

OLD MAN YELLS AT SHOUT RAP (chrisv2010), Thursday, 10 February 2011 15:21 (thirteen years ago) link

lol

one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 10 February 2011 15:21 (thirteen years ago) link

"It's nice out."
"Yes, I think I'll leave it out."

Groovy Goulet (pixel farmer), Thursday, 10 February 2011 15:57 (thirteen years ago) link

Okay, so this morning is a perfectly great example of why I think popcorn girl and her popcorn thing is really, really weird. A few hours ago a consultant dropped off a huge breakfast spread for us - bagels, donuts, coffee cakes, fresh fruit, muffins, etc. Really great stuff and a nice variety - everything from really healthy options to pretty decadent stuff. Anyway, popcorn girl walks back to the break room, stares at the spread for a few minutes, then pops a bag of her stupid microwave popcorn.

one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 11 February 2011 16:35 (thirteen years ago) link

one of the ladies here (not piss vag) just came in my office chomping as loud as she possibly could on a carrot. Grr.

OLD MAN YELLS AT SHOUT RAP (chrisv2010), Friday, 11 February 2011 16:41 (thirteen years ago) link

okay I had to search through the thread for the genesis of that reference and thank you for the new display name

CAN YOU GULP ANY LOUDER PISS WOMAN (DJP), Friday, 11 February 2011 16:55 (thirteen years ago) link

OMG SHE IS TALKING IN BABY TALK

ENBB, Friday, 11 February 2011 19:49 (thirteen years ago) link

WHOMEVER JUST LEFT THE OPEN SMOKED SALMON SITTING ON THE FUCKING TABLE IN THE BREAKROOM! SERIOUSLY? Next week you'll complain about the mouse problem again. You'll thank me i threw it out when there is a black bear in the breakroom rather than a couple of mouse turds.

OLD MAN YELLS AT SHOUT RAP (chrisv2010), Friday, 11 February 2011 20:58 (thirteen years ago) link

Why's it have to be a "black" bear, Chris?

HELP ýs DANCE FLORR??? (San Te), Friday, 11 February 2011 21:10 (thirteen years ago) link

what do u have against black bears, San Te

VegemiteGrrl, Friday, 11 February 2011 21:13 (thirteen years ago) link

Lol I get an instant message intended for the dude with the extremely similar name to mine. I politely ask if dude meant to contact the other guy and spelled out the name, and he says "oh, right".

Three seconds later he sends me the same cut/pasted instant message again.

HELP ýs DANCE FLORR??? (San Te), Friday, 11 February 2011 21:32 (thirteen years ago) link

IM needs a death ray

VegemiteGrrl, Friday, 11 February 2011 22:02 (thirteen years ago) link

good afternoon piss vag, can you please remove your shit encrusted fingernails off my desk.

OLD MAN YELLS AT SHOUT RAP (chrisv2010), Monday, 14 February 2011 19:55 (thirteen years ago) link

Ugh, dear boss: don't message me saying "why did I nto know about this issue, can you come see me and go over it?" when I have BEEN CC'ING YOU ON EVERY MAIL BETWEEN ME, CUSTOMER AND THE TELCO SINCE DECEMBER >:|

If you dont bother reading your email then I cant be bothered chasing it up.

Senor DingDong (Trayce), Tuesday, 15 February 2011 00:19 (thirteen years ago) link

y'know I miss contributing to this thread but like the last two weeks have been Heaven so alas I can't!

pon de river, pon deez nuts (San Te), Wednesday, 16 February 2011 00:33 (thirteen years ago) link

Well, what sort of attitude is that?

the most cuddlesome bug that ever was borned (James Morrison), Wednesday, 16 February 2011 00:40 (thirteen years ago) link

it's my backhanded way of saying "thank you dear GOD for letting me change departments!"

pon de river, pon deez nuts (San Te), Wednesday, 16 February 2011 00:42 (thirteen years ago) link

Dear quasi-boss who isn't really my boss: stop trying to show off to our bigwig visitor by referring to the 'waterfront' ahead. The accepted metaphor is 'horizon' and it doesn't need replacing, and watching you doing so makes me cringe. Or say 'outlook'. Or 'future'.

ljubljana, Wednesday, 16 February 2011 01:01 (thirteen years ago) link

what.

kkvgz, Wednesday, 16 February 2011 01:21 (thirteen years ago) link

My boss who isn't really my boss repeated the phrase "all very positive signs" more than 5 times in her presentation of last year's numbers. The thing is, if you were to look at the data in a fair and balanced way, there were no positive signs at all. However, to say so would really hurt the feelings of those people in my organization who didn't actually want to do any work, so we had to provide her with numbers that she could spin. God, it's such an empty charade.

kkvgz, Wednesday, 16 February 2011 01:25 (thirteen years ago) link

Ha is he confusing with "watershed" or something maybe Ljub?

Trayce, Wednesday, 16 February 2011 01:34 (thirteen years ago) link

I'd forgive him that. But I bet some twat in London has started using it and he's just straight out copying.

ljubljana, Wednesday, 16 February 2011 02:01 (thirteen years ago) link

Sure, my new position here is a little overwhelming, but I'll get the hang of it. I can even tolerate the desperately sad "Kid Rock says that there ain't no party like a Detroit party 'cause a Detroit party don't stop!" during an online/conference call presentation (if for other reason than that it's a good story to tell people about how this company has eaten peoples' souls). And I appreciate the fact that you're mentoring me. You've been very helpful. But when you whisper to a co-worker whose cube is adjacent to mine about how they should assist me, that tells me two things: 1) you think I can't hear you when I'm one foot away, and 2) wouldn't sending an e-mail to said co-worker be a more effective means of surreptitious communication than whispering?

Son of Sisyphus of Reaganing (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 16 February 2011 03:26 (thirteen years ago) link

Woohoo, I accepted a new job and put in my two weeks' notice today! The problem wasn't with my co-workers (who all said "Good for you. I wish I could find a new job") but the higher-ups in other cities who I've never met. Like my ineffective boss. And whoever it was above him who decided that the person who takes over my overwhelming, underpaid, full-time position shouldn't have health insurance. Oh man, this company can suck it.

lindseykai, Wednesday, 16 February 2011 04:56 (thirteen years ago) link

lol

got electrolytes (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 16 February 2011 06:15 (thirteen years ago) link

What's their reasoning for not giving him/her health insurance?

Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Wednesday, 16 February 2011 15:29 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm interested to hear that too. Assuming this is a U.S. Company that provides pre-tax benefits (and please tell me is either are not the case), an employer cannot legally just arbitrarily choose who to give insurance to.

The IRS requires that the company's official " plan document" house plan eligibility rules, and they must amend them going forward.

So unless this person was in a class already deemed ineligible or they're changing the plan, it sounds like they are breaking the law, and the IRS could disqualify the plan if they found out.

Of course that is all heavily based on multiple assumptions on my part!

pon de river, pon deez nuts (San Te), Wednesday, 16 February 2011 15:36 (thirteen years ago) link

They may be doing what Wal-Mart does--keeping this person's hours just under the full-time mark so that they don't have to give benefits.

Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Wednesday, 16 February 2011 15:40 (thirteen years ago) link

Yea, that's how most companies get around it, cuz all that is is keeping someone from meeting the minimum eligibility requirements.

That's why places like Best Buy hire mostly part-timers.

pon de river, pon deez nuts (San Te), Wednesday, 16 February 2011 15:43 (thirteen years ago) link

supervisor: oh so I heard from VH that you were late to a meeting with her?
me: What?! No, I wasn't. I called and asked her if we could push back a meeting we had by 1/2 an hour because I was running a bit late. She agreed and I was there a few minutes before the newly agreed upon time.
supervisor: oh well she's sorta . . . yeah . . . *makes crazy face*

DEAR VH: FUCK YOU. YOU ARE WITHOUT A DOUBT THE MOST OBNOXIOUSLY TYPE A PERSON I'VE EVER MET AND I HATE YOU. YOU REALLY HAD TO SAY SOMETHING TO MY SUPERVISOR ABOUT THAT? I DIDN'T EVEN DO ANYTHING WRONG SO BASICALLY WHAT YOU SAID WAS A LIE. I HATE YOU YOU ANAL RETENTIVE ANNOYING LIAR.

ENBB, Wednesday, 16 February 2011 15:57 (thirteen years ago) link

I stab VH with my brain!

I just started a new job and it is unnervingly slow. I am used to being overworked and underappreciated! My old company would have considered this workload a part-time job. I rejoice!

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Wednesday, 16 February 2011 16:41 (thirteen years ago) link

They're calling it a "full-time contract position." The job listing is up on the site now (I work for a well-known media company) and commenters have already noticed the lack of benefits and compared us to WalMart. Nice. Of course, in this economic climate, I'm sure there will be no shortage of applicants anyway.

lindseykai, Wednesday, 16 February 2011 19:31 (thirteen years ago) link

im currently teaching english in mexico to high schoolers. stuck with another girl (we dont like each other basically) where we have to teach a few classes together and she is constantly trying to undermine me while im trying out games and activities ive got prepared for the class (calling out answers and being an arsehole). had words with her already but she often tries to push me with this shite from time to time. grrrrr.

the Chinese firewall of the heart (Michael B), Wednesday, 16 February 2011 23:26 (thirteen years ago) link

That is so ridiculously unprofessional, wth!?

Trayce, Thursday, 17 February 2011 00:10 (thirteen years ago) link

Okay, so we get a fruit basket delivered every week to the office. Instead of taking an apple when the want to eat it, some people are taking loads and putting it in their draws, presumably to eat during the week. This REALLY winds me up. What's the best way of dealing without ending up on the passive-aggressive notes thread, or do I just need to get over myself and go and buy some fruit?

Yossarian's sense of humour (NotEnough), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 11:26 (thirteen years ago) link

What's the best way of dealing without ending up on the passive-aggressive notes thread

get there before them :)

not_goodwin, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 12:00 (thirteen years ago) link

happened here just today. dude took 1/4 of the grapes (meant for an office of of 30+ people) and a banana and something else to eat with his 11ses...

koogs, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 14:38 (thirteen years ago) link

The thing is, you can steal all the fruit yourself, but then you're just doing onto others what's been done to you, which is the epitome of NAGL.

Next week, I might make a show of taking ALL the fruit from the bowl and putting it in my draws. But that makes me look even more of a cock. Gaaaaah!

Yossarian's sense of humour (NotEnough), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 14:43 (thirteen years ago) link

The worst thing is that IT DOESN'T MATTER!

Yossarian's sense of humour (NotEnough), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 14:43 (thirteen years ago) link

ARGH. Dude you have headphones, I see you using them every day. But every day around noon while you eat your lunch and watch stupid golf clips on your computer they disappear and you force the rest of the office to listen to the clips. ARGH. Also, no one uses AOL anymore, I don't need to hear the "You've Got Mail" at deafening volume either.

rendezvous then i'm through with HOOS (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 18:41 (thirteen years ago) link

haha. jon you seem to work in the most annoying office of all time.

OLD MAN YELLS AT SHOUT RAP (chrisv2010), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 18:43 (thirteen years ago) link

I have now gotten about ten emails and two instant messages for the dude with the similar name to mine in the last week.  I'd be sympathetic if A. the emails didn't display our locations next to him, and I clearly do not work in Texas, and B. if I hadn't already asked them politely to please double check before sending emails that they had the right one.

It's not just an innocuous thing either, there's a few times where something got delayed or done late because they were emailing the wrong person and that person was out of the office or didn't know what they were talking about.

angel of debt!!! monarch to the kingdom of the Fed... (San Te), Friday, 25 February 2011 17:03 (thirteen years ago) link

haha. jon you seem to work in the most annoying office of all time.

Honestly no, the golf clips guy is the same guy who scrapes his plastic bowl and is also the same one that asks everyone mundane stuff. So if he and popcorn girl would clean up their acts, it would be mostly fine.

rendezvous then i'm through with HOOS (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 25 February 2011 17:05 (thirteen years ago) link

actually have a real one now, tho this is not from within my new dept, but someone in another dept.

Anyway, to simplify the scenario, I build tools that service reps use on calls. You get a stock template to work from, and anything you add or remove gets tracked so they can see where you differed from the template.

Generally then, you give it to the people who own the technology and they give the marked up template an editorial review, make final tweaks, and that's that. If your client wants to view the tool, then you do the editorial review first, then send them a 'clean' copy to look at.

This last time, the guy in charge was too busy and agreed that I'd just give the template to the client to review without an editorial review first. Not the best way to do things, but it saved him time, so whatever. Because of this, I had to clean up the document first before I sent it to our client.

The client made their own suggested revisions, which I then looked at, incorporated, and posted a final clean copy for the editorial team.

They are mad that I didn't give them a 'marked up' copy to look at, which is the norm. I fired back that because they didn't do an editorial review first, the only way I would have been able to do that is if I took the document that the client marked up, then copied everything over to the original document I marked up (which is over 100 documents). It would have been such an arduous and lengthy process, not to mention one with the potential for error, that it would have taken me an extra week.

I mean...I saved YOU time by foregoing the editorial review earlier. Did you not anticipate a tradeoff? You can't implement a compromise that benefits only you the first time, and then expect me to do it again a second time. It isn't a 'compromise' if it benefits just you and nobody else.

anywho, he's gonna get in some crap for this.

angel of debt!!! monarch to the kingdom of the Fed... (San Te), Friday, 25 February 2011 23:21 (thirteen years ago) link

"Hey there young lady, I see you've got your boots on. Ready for the snow?"
"Hello sir, you've got your tea, huh?"
"Why hello, looks like you've got yourself a box there."
"You've got a coat on, don't you?"

best ilx thing of the month!

NI, Tuesday, 1 March 2011 23:09 (thirteen years ago) link

Next week, I might make a show of taking ALL the fruit from the bowl and putting it in my draws.

I only endorse this if you meant your underwear.

goth barbershop quartet (DJP), Tuesday, 1 March 2011 23:20 (thirteen years ago) link

Hahah I was gonna make a similar comment earlier and forgot to. xpost

gnarly gnarlingtons in my life (Trayce), Tuesday, 1 March 2011 23:23 (thirteen years ago) link

Oh man, for the past two days a guy near me has been rocking out to whatever he is listening to on his headphones. His extremely loud and off-key whistling and desktop drum solos are super annoying.

rendezvous then i'm through with HOOS (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 1 March 2011 23:25 (thirteen years ago) link

I've been known to do that by accident momentarily. The tapping on desk at least. Then I remember where I am and stop, sheepishly. I also play air-keyboards on the edge of my desk along to Telefon Tel Aviv albums.

gnarly gnarlingtons in my life (Trayce), Tuesday, 1 March 2011 23:31 (thirteen years ago) link

I'd have a much higher tolerance for it if it were an accidental "whoops where am I" thing, but this is like every 30-45 seconds with the whistling and every 8-10 minutes with the desk drumming.

rendezvous then i'm through with HOOS (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 2 March 2011 05:12 (thirteen years ago) link

so re: my issue hte other day, basically my project lead and I nailed the group on screwing up royally, and their lead has been apologetic, so I'm kinda happy none of it fell back on me.

BIG CHARLIE aka the sheendriver (San Te), Wednesday, 2 March 2011 05:51 (thirteen years ago) link

:-)

Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Wednesday, 2 March 2011 16:04 (thirteen years ago) link

One month in, new department gets a solid A.

BIG CHARLIE aka the sheendriver (San Te), Wednesday, 2 March 2011 16:06 (thirteen years ago) link

Oh man, for the past two days a guy near me has been rocking out to whatever he is listening to on his headphones. His extremely loud and off-key whistling and desktop drum solos are super annoying.

― rendezvous then i'm through with HOOS (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, March 1, 2011 5:25 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

Is he whistling something by Billy Squier?

♬ mennnnnnnnnn ♬ (Jesse), Wednesday, 2 March 2011 18:00 (thirteen years ago) link

STROKE ME STROKE ME. POPCORN GIRL.

OLD MAN YELLS AT SHOUT RAP (chrisv2010), Wednesday, 2 March 2011 18:09 (thirteen years ago) link

RUB YOUR BUTTERY SALTY FINGERS ON MY WANG.

OLD MAN YELLS AT SHOUT RAP (chrisv2010), Wednesday, 2 March 2011 18:09 (thirteen years ago) link

^^^lyrics to new Jet single

BIG CHARLIE aka the sheendriver (San Te), Wednesday, 2 March 2011 18:13 (thirteen years ago) link

lol

rendezvous then i'm through with HOOS (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 2 March 2011 19:09 (thirteen years ago) link

i am going to fucking scream at piss vag. Every week she calls me around this time to ask if its ok that she submits her weekly financials to me. Every week I tell her that they are due at noon on thursdays and every week this dipshit sends them to me at 3. Then has the balls (or rotten vag) to complain that she didn't get her checks. this woman lives on another planet.

OLD MAN YELLS AT SHOUT RAP (chrisv2010), Thursday, 3 March 2011 18:29 (thirteen years ago) link

As a result of my department change, my desk moved. while I'm away from Smelly Old Smoke Lady with Delinquent Son now, which makes me happy, I sit near a team of service reps. Usually their conversations are harmless and quiet, although today they managed to all agree that Gwyneth Paltrow's version of "Fuck You" is better than Cee-Lo's, which is inexcusable.

In all seriousness, though, then the convo went to the recent BYU player who was dismissed from the college basketball team for having premarital sex. About four of them (mostly just two people on opposing sides with occasion contributions from the others) got in a passionate debate about whether this was right or not. For the first five minutes, I was alright with it, but then the conversation lasted another 35 minutes, and got louder, and louder, and more intense.

It passed the point of innocuous to disruptive and the dude who started the discussion just wouldn't let it go or shut up, even though everybody else had said they didn't feel like arguing anymore. I even agreed with the dude but he was soooo annoying.

Finally had to ask their manager to step in to shut them up.

BIG CHARLIE aka the sheendriver (San Te), Thursday, 3 March 2011 22:53 (thirteen years ago) link

hokay, if you're going to ask me to take a look at a file (one you actually have open and are looking at and do not need time to find) at 4:35 on a Friday afternoon and say you'll send it to me, you'd better send it to me right there and then

it is a Friday! I want to go home! and not wait for you to piss about! and then have to stay past 5 looking at this file! which I'm 99% sure has got buggered up due to reasons entirely beyond my control anyway!

dimension hatris (a passing spacecadet), Friday, 4 March 2011 16:52 (thirteen years ago) link

shoulda just used this thread

~big sigh~

el tuomboto (cozen), Friday, 4 March 2011 18:14 (thirteen years ago) link

coworker who is frequently sour and negative and doesn't mind letting everybody know when she's in a bad mood.. STOP IT

no, really, go ahead and make a big show of how put out you are by mundane tasks today, that's awesome

daria, Friday, 4 March 2011 20:08 (thirteen years ago) link

kick her in the gunt

OLD MAN YELLS AT SHOUT RAP (chrisv2010), Friday, 4 March 2011 20:10 (thirteen years ago) link

I just don't understand why she needs to let everyone know how grumpy she is. Well, why she needs to let the cube dwellers know. Management thinks she's cheerful as can be no doubt

daria, Friday, 4 March 2011 21:11 (thirteen years ago) link

The associate attorney (younger than me, and computer literate when he feels like it) whines a lot about how he can't save fillable PDFs on his computer. We use them a lot and it's annoying that every time I need a subpoena, I have to fill out the whole thing anew. Finally figured out that he was using MICROSOFT INTERNET EXPLORER to open PDFs (and every other document!), which was where the problems with saving came in.

♬ mennnnnnnnnn ♬ (Jesse), Friday, 4 March 2011 21:29 (thirteen years ago) link

I've tried a million times to make the attorneys go through My Computer to open files, but every single one of them uses either IE or Word to open every type of file.

♬ mennnnnnnnnn ♬ (Jesse), Friday, 4 March 2011 21:31 (thirteen years ago) link

They think I'm some kind of "hacker" or Harry Potter because of the "tricks" I use, e.g., exploring folders or using Ctrl+Z.

♬ mennnnnnnnnn ♬ (Jesse), Friday, 4 March 2011 21:33 (thirteen years ago) link

Update on my lengthy situation w/ the screw up earlier:

So basically, the summary was, I had an agreement that these portals would be done by 3/7, and asked if possible to do them by 3/1. even wrote this in the assignment I sent them, and had a written documented acceptance of the assignment and the delivery date, and followed the instructions to a T. To this date, nobody has given any reason why no work commenced between 2/14 and 2/24 even though they were supposed to be working on them gradually.

None of it fell back on me as I said above, but the problem was in order for them to finish for me last week, it required them following up with me more often when they had questions. Problem is, instead of emailing them at the end of the day, they kept pinging me on instant message every 5 minutes. I lost hours of productivity.

Worse, I left on Friday without them even being finished with the final portal so I have no idea if it will be ready tomorrow.

Regardless of the fact that it wasn't my fault, it's going to hurt training, and I hate that the reps are going to suffer if it's not done. Crossing my fingers.

orville reddenflocka (San Te), Monday, 7 March 2011 03:26 (thirteen years ago) link

The Good News: They finished the final portal, and all of them actually.

The Bad News: I got told that someone made an oversight during the review of one of my portals and I have to make significant revisions to one of them that will likely take an estimated 22 hours because of their failure to notice or act on it for six months. I have less than a month to do this.

Also, after about 10 assurances that this training would be run better than the last one for this team, and that the facilitators would prepare for the training, and not read the materials to the representatives, I got a report today that....the facilitators were reading the materials to the representatives, and were hours behind schedule.

Both gaffes = same department (not mine). This department is very insular and tends to not give a shit about outside departments and shit like this happens.

Hoping my boss and his boss can step in and ream them out for me like they did the last time.

orville reddenflocka (San Te), Tuesday, 8 March 2011 03:17 (thirteen years ago) link

Really tired of treading on eggshells with co-worker. She is stressed for personal reasons, and when she's stressed, she takes her usual direct approach (which is a good thing about 80% of the time) to extremes. When it goes to extremes, the % of time when being super-direct is a good thing goes down to about 30. I am bound up in understanding and very deeply sympathising with her problems, as a friend. She's got damn good reasons to be stressed and upset. But I find it emotionally exhausting to constantly feel sniped at. Very complicated and tiring situation.

ljubljana, Tuesday, 8 March 2011 03:31 (thirteen years ago) link

I don't know how people can be inefficient and tardy at work, it makes no sense. If I forget to do stuff or don't do it on time I get monumentally stressed, so I avoid it at all costs. Living in a perpetual cycle of shitness like the perps on this thread would kill me in 6 months.

Yossarian's sense of humour (NotEnough), Tuesday, 8 March 2011 06:57 (thirteen years ago) link

I used to work with my best friend D and he was perpetually like this, operated on a level of constant slightly irritated panic. It really wore me down and wore on our friendship. Was kind of relieved when we weren't working together anymore tbh.

gnarly gnarlingtons in my life (Trayce), Tuesday, 8 March 2011 06:59 (thirteen years ago) link

I only learned recently how to deal with coworkers who have a rep for not doing things on time. I have had several conversations like this:

me: (constantly smiling and being personable) This will get back to me by the end of the week, right?
them: no problem
me: It's just I've heard that you've got a lot on your plate and that sometimes thing slip. This won't happen here, right?
them: Definitely not
me: Fantastic. If it does turn out the worst is gonna happen, you'll email me to tell me.

and so on. Tying people down with velvet ropes I guess, but it does the job. People only forget to do things for me once. Saying that, maybe they've started a thread somewhere called "Let's bitch about our annoying patronising co-workers."

Yossarian's sense of humour (NotEnough), Tuesday, 8 March 2011 07:05 (thirteen years ago) link

So this morning, it hits me in the shower that the longwinded solution those numbskulls suggested wasn't necessary.

I rushed to my desk and tested my theory, and sure enough, the line item that the facilitators/tech team insisted were not in the system for reps...is there.

Now there is no way they can force me to do that extra work as it isn't necessary.

orville reddenflocka (San Te), Tuesday, 8 March 2011 13:35 (thirteen years ago) link

Moreso, it's going to embarass them that they didn't know their own system as well as a guy who has only been looking at it the past two weeks

orville reddenflocka (San Te), Tuesday, 8 March 2011 13:38 (thirteen years ago) link

oh man one of the women here has the worst shit breath. please do not talk in my face. i can smell her breath when she is talking four feet away. cripes.

OLD MAN YELLS AT SHOUT RAP (chrisv2010), Tuesday, 8 March 2011 16:31 (thirteen years ago) link

Do you know if she wears dentures or has gastrointestinal problems?

Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Tuesday, 8 March 2011 18:23 (thirteen years ago) link

no, she drinks coffee all day and then water. it smells like a wet leaf.

OLD MAN YELLS AT SHOUT RAP (chrisv2010), Tuesday, 8 March 2011 19:12 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah, I think that's coffee.

Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Tuesday, 8 March 2011 19:22 (thirteen years ago) link

I realized today, partially thanks to constructive feedback I got that was helpful and friendly, that my attitude has been shit.

I'm still carrying this defensive chip on my shoulder from my old department where I feel like it's always "us vs. Them" but it isn't like that anymore and I have no reason to be that way.

Part of it was due to last week's incident but I'm glad I realized this today because I'm new to this department, I don't have a reputation to coast on, don't want to be surly new kid on the block.

They all seem to like me so I guess I should just relax and trust these guys!

orville reddenflocka (San Te), Wednesday, 9 March 2011 02:37 (thirteen years ago) link

rancid coffee breath.. there is little that smells worse

australian rules football quarterback (electricsound), Wednesday, 9 March 2011 04:25 (thirteen years ago) link

rancid smoker's coffee breath.

gnarly gnarlingtons in my life (Trayce), Wednesday, 9 March 2011 04:28 (thirteen years ago) link

in some odd way the smoke makes it less bad, don't know why

australian rules football quarterback (electricsound), Wednesday, 9 March 2011 04:30 (thirteen years ago) link

Might depend on the person. I'm having repulsed flashbacks of my year 12 art teacher.

gnarly gnarlingtons in my life (Trayce), Wednesday, 9 March 2011 04:55 (thirteen years ago) link

i hear the words 'i apologize' from the reps around me all the time. excessive apologizing is like one of the worst traits you can have as a rep. not only does it imply fault on your company's end, but after the third time you say it, customers get pissed off because it sounds robotic.

learn other ways to say things!!!!!

orville reddenflocka (San Te), Wednesday, 9 March 2011 05:02 (thirteen years ago) link

I mean there's appropriate times for it but you shouldn't go saying "i apologize" if the customer is at fault, say "i understand your frustration, and I'd like to outline your options for you" or something.

orville reddenflocka (San Te), Wednesday, 9 March 2011 05:02 (thirteen years ago) link

there was also this dude who said "have a nice day" to a widow on a death call, and I guess she got upset at him, thinking it wasn't an appropriate thing to say.

He spent the next ten minutes saying "what was I supposed to say, have an awful day?". Granted I don't think what he said was horrible (just there are better things he could have said), it just amazes me that he seemed to think those were his only two options.

orville reddenflocka (San Te), Wednesday, 9 March 2011 05:04 (thirteen years ago) link

Have just realised Ive been drumming on my desk like mad to M83 for the last 20 mins, and I have become the annoying coworker lol.

gnarly gnarlingtons in my life (Trayce), Wednesday, 9 March 2011 05:16 (thirteen years ago) link

i fart a lot at work

orville reddenflocka (San Te), Wednesday, 9 March 2011 05:18 (thirteen years ago) link

I tend to talk to myself a LOT at work, especially if I'm doing something particularly taxing. Am I an annoying coworker?

Yossarian's sense of humour (NotEnough), Wednesday, 9 March 2011 06:59 (thirteen years ago) link

Oh god I do that too :/

gnarly gnarlingtons in my life (Trayce), Wednesday, 9 March 2011 08:05 (thirteen years ago) link

I have a bad feeling that we're both part of the same problem.

Yossarian's sense of humour (NotEnough), Wednesday, 9 March 2011 08:14 (thirteen years ago) link

I'd become the annoying coworker, but I don't have any coworkers. Oh well.

Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Wednesday, 9 March 2011 22:19 (thirteen years ago) link

One of my friends reviewed a call from one of our reps where the caller was elderly and stated she was having trouble hearing the rep, and the rep replied "well, this is as loud as I go, how can I help?". Then, because he wasn't listening, he screwed up her transaction.

This dude has a job whereas a friend of mine in Chicago has been out of work almost a year despite hundreds of applications.

Hope he gets fired.

Corbin Bernsen Overdrive (San Te), Friday, 11 March 2011 14:39 (thirteen years ago) link

ugh bad breath, i had an orthodontist as a teen who had rancid coffee breath. you'd think when you're staring into people's mouths all day and have your face that close you'd clean up that act. what a dick.

I see what this is (Local Garda), Friday, 11 March 2011 16:43 (thirteen years ago) link

Heard my coworker bitching to another coworker about an unspecified female who was most likely me (since we'd been working 1:1 together most of the day); trying to attain zen-like acceptance of how I bitch about him on ILX/to the bf and therefore it's all cool and I can forget about it, rather than descend down the rabbithole of wondering what thing(s) I did today were particularly irritating

(well, we don't have a thread where we are the stupid, annoying coworkers, do we? if we do, the ILX coders should probably redirect all my posts there)

dimension hatris (a passing spacecadet), Friday, 11 March 2011 18:06 (thirteen years ago) link

Actually, I think there is one, but I can't remember the title.

Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Friday, 11 March 2011 20:52 (thirteen years ago) link

there's this, but it's just one specific instance
Dear ILX, I have a boring tl;dr question about my job and how not to be a stupid, annoying co-worker, and I'm hoping you can help.
(started by a passing spacecadet!)

on... imo (onimo), Sunday, 13 March 2011 20:24 (thirteen years ago) link

Me to associate attorney (who has worked here for 7 years): What is your normal hourly rate?

Associate: It varies by case.

Me: That's because it's sometimes reduced. I need your NORMAL rate. It used to be $160 but it went up last year. How much did it go up to?

Associate: (Beffudled, maybe annoyed) I don't know! You're asking the wrong person.

Meanwhile one of the partners is trying to check her voice mail, and she keeps accidentally dialing each of our numerous extensions. She has reached me twice so far.

Jesse, Monday, 14 March 2011 15:06 (thirteen years ago) link

A few times a week, Associate tells me he can't open Wordperfect documents even though he totally can by using Word. I explain that when his computer asks which program to use for .wpd docs, he should choose Word from the list and select "Always use this program for this type of file." EVERY TIME he responds "That's not working for me."

Today I finally sit down at his computer and do it myself in front of him. "Well I've been doing that, but it doesn't work when I do it!" NO YOU FUCKING HAVE NOT BEEN DOING THAT OTHERWISE YOU WOULD HAVE BEEN SUCCESSFULLY OPENING .WPDs !!!

Jesse, Wednesday, 16 March 2011 18:59 (thirteen years ago) link

Then I asked him if our IT guy replaced his computer when it crashed last fall. He claimed not to know, then said "Well, it's a new computer. The firm bought it right after you started working here." That was in August, 2007. He followed up with "Well it was new when they got it!"

Jesse, Wednesday, 16 March 2011 19:01 (thirteen years ago) link

Let's send several print jobs to the shared printer, all of which require special paper via the bypass tray, but then not actually go and put in the special paper or otherwise deal with the print job, so that when an hour or so later someone else goes to get their print job they find a queue of six different things all banked up in memory, demanding odd paper sizes that you have to guess at and load before you can get your own.

the most cuddlesome bug that ever was borned (James Morrison), Wednesday, 16 March 2011 23:38 (thirteen years ago) link

Not really a coworker, but close:

Me: I can't go to (insert patient name)'s tomorrow. The upper respiratory tract infection I had spread to my eyes, and now I have conjunctivitis. I've been ordered to stay home for 24 hours by my doctor.

One of my bosses: Can't you just put a mask on and go in anyway?

Me: That won't protect anyone from my conjunctivitis.

OOMB: *Projects total confusion over the phone*

Me: Conjunctivitis...pinkeye?

OOMB: *more confusion*

Me: (Thinks, "How in the world can you work in the medical field for a while, even in administration, and not have heard of conjunctivitis?")

OOMB: *Finally gets a clue and gives me the time off, but not before threatening to take me off of the case if I call off again*

Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Thursday, 17 March 2011 00:57 (thirteen years ago) link

i'm a purchasing & receiving clerk at a pretty large operation (i've been a cook previously). the chef is really quite inept and misorders stuff ALL THE TIME. today, which will rank legendarily shitty in my book, i noticed a couple things we need that i missed. i think i'm being pretty diligent by noticing when i did (i've basically trained myself at the position more or less and sometimes get helpful input from a coupla people).
so ask the chef a question about a item at the end of the day and i get an exasperated expression and a "it's time for you to figure some things out on your own".
ugh, thanks for my fail assist, dulle teve

Marquis de Sade (outdoor_miner), Thursday, 17 March 2011 01:23 (thirteen years ago) link

so i keep a special medical ice pack for my back in the freezer here at work with my name on it. Yesterday in extreme pain i went to go grab it to put on my back for my drive home. NO FUCKING ICE PACK. I sent out a company wide email explaining this was not to be used for food. I get an email back about ten minutes later from one of the guys here that he had it in his cooler. MOTHER FUCKER.

The Scenario (chrisv2010), Friday, 18 March 2011 20:45 (thirteen years ago) link

My supervisor at my new job insists that I ask her any question, anytime. Great. Helpful. So on Monday, I told her I needed help with a spreadsheet that was due today. "Can it wait until tomorrow? I'm real busy." OK, fine. Tuesday: "Can it wait until tomorrow? I'm real busy." Wednesday: "Can it wait until tomorrow? I'm real busy." Thursday: "Can it wait until tomorrow? I'm real busy." Today she finally has time to help me. After I tell her my issue with the spreadsheet she says, "You really should have come to me with this earlier in the week."

Tarfumes The Escape Goat, Friday, 18 March 2011 23:26 (thirteen years ago) link

Aaaaargh my boss does that all the time. He is so absent minded.

boss:"we arent having that meeting today it's been moved to monday"
me:"...what meeting?"
boss:"I told you about it last week!" (thinks me: "no you bloody didnt").

bad voise, it sucked, pick a seat (Trayce), Saturday, 19 March 2011 02:28 (thirteen years ago) link

Tarfumes, what did you say?? That's obnoxious.

Jesse, Saturday, 19 March 2011 02:32 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah what did you say? I'dve had at them, boss or not.

bad voise, it sucked, pick a seat (Trayce), Saturday, 19 March 2011 02:57 (thirteen years ago) link

i'm so fucking sick of my clueless boss. she spends 90% of her interactions w/me, complaining about how bad the business is doing - i suggest some things, like oh hey let's actually update the online store which hasn't been touched in almost 3 years and which we are losing money on bc we have to refund orders for items/colours we no longer make. i spend a good deal of time figuring out how we can do this for the least amount of $$, i.e. i will take charge of it, which means not paying $50 p/hr for a computer person to do it. i figured out our top 25 items, i took various measurements for each size in each garment, i wrote up 'cute' and useful descriptions for each garment, incl. other items to match things w/thereby increasing potential for customers to purchase more than one item. i also took photos that even w/my lack of expertise were 100x better than the ones currently on the site. i set up a demo store on bigcartel and suggested that we point our current url to a blog, which would be easy for me to keep updated, and which we could use to really make the most of the fact that we are a small, local business that manufactures our own products.

i also made suggestions for getting more involved with the community, e.g. actually ~using~ our email list (she never ever sends out newsletters) to tell ppl about sales, about new season colours and styles, maybe do some giveaways, birthday event (store has been operating for about 28 years), really just work the whole local angle, since we live in goddamn hippie capital of the world, where ppl totally drool over that shit.

all this stuff would basically cost her nothing, and use maybe a few hours a week of my time (which tbh doesn't cost her much in the first place) to keep up with. has she followed through on any of this?? NO. has she at least given me free rein to try some of these things?? NO. is she totally negative about everything?? YES.

ALSO: she complains non-fucking-stop about how terrible the salesgirls are at actually selling stuff. then she hires someone bc - and i quote - "i can empathise with her defeated attitude". WTF. and then she turns her nose up at someone who has experience as a nude dancer (her ppl skills are probably amazing!!) bc she thinks anyone who does things like that is 'disgusting'.

AND THEN: she's wringing her hands over not having enough new designs for the SS11 range, esp dresses which sell super well. so i brought her a dress which is so simple in the design that it would take our amazing sewers probably 2.5 mins to sew, is flattering to any figure, and is currently a super hot style, and we could sell it for a pretty big profit and she totally shot me down.

sorry for the extremely long and boring rant but today was just... ugh.

just1n3, Saturday, 19 March 2011 04:05 (thirteen years ago) link

Tarfumes, what did you say?? That's obnoxious.

― Jesse, Friday, March 18, 2011 10:32 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

I actually just let it go. Partly because I realized within my first day or so that she pulls shit like this on everyone (and thus won't single me out for being "incompetent"), and partly because I didn't want to get into a "No you didn't"/"Yes I did" argument that I would lose for no good reason. My supervisor would remember the argument as a mark against me far more than she would remember me "neglecting" to bring an issue to her attention.

My first instinct, though, was to stare her dead in the eyes and sing, Rebecca Black-style, "FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN"

Tarfumes The Escape Goat, Saturday, 19 March 2011 05:25 (thirteen years ago) link

Tabitha of Tabitha's Salon Takeover needs to start an empire of various industry takeovers.

xp - Ha! I heard of Rebecca Black about 3 hours ago and now she is EVERYWHERE.

Jesse, Saturday, 19 March 2011 05:27 (thirteen years ago) link

Ugh Jus I dont know how you have not gone postal on your boss after all this time. Its like she WANTS to fail. She seems like something of a control freak, wont let anyone tell her ideas bcz theyre not hers.

bad voise, it sucked, pick a seat (Trayce), Saturday, 19 March 2011 05:28 (thirteen years ago) link

xp - Ha! I heard of Rebecca Black about 3 hours ago and now she is EVERYWHERE.

― Jesse, Saturday, 19 March 2011 05:27 Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

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this

you can be happy also (onimo), Saturday, 19 March 2011 09:43 (thirteen years ago) link

- random 4

you can be happy also (onimo), Saturday, 19 March 2011 09:43 (thirteen years ago) link

Ugh. When we are discussing a thing, sure, lets all stand around while we talk specifics. Once we've sorted that out, let me get back to my goddamn work. Dont stand there shaking your head and rolling your eyes and going "man, damn thing we really [blah blah stopped listening to you about 10 minutes ago you boring tit]" about nothing in particular because I DONT CARE ANYMORE GO AWAY.

bad voise, it sucked, pick a seat (Trayce), Tuesday, 22 March 2011 02:42 (thirteen years ago) link

c'mon man, I'm doing your work from yesterday and all of our shared work for today while you are in the next room watching college basketball

CharlieS, Tuesday, 22 March 2011 15:41 (thirteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

surprise surprise, idiot boss, the girl you hired not even 3 months ago, who you 'jokingly' described as so 'defeated-looking' that she would be 'perfect' for our company is now constantly calling in sick/not showing up/asking for time off/turning up late.

oh and NOW you're considering my blog idea bc your clueless 'techy' friend said it sounded good!

just1n3, Friday, 8 April 2011 04:48 (thirteen years ago) link

At least she spoke about it to someone and didn't claim it for herself :)

Mark C, Friday, 8 April 2011 09:57 (thirteen years ago) link

hello mark c!

estela, Friday, 8 April 2011 10:07 (thirteen years ago) link

DEAR SLURPY CO-WORKER: people can hear you slurping your tea and coffee and wetly eating biscuits from 1000000 miles away, STOP IT! STOP IT! STOP IT! It is toe-curlingly gross! Argh!

It also makes me paranoid that I could slurp too so I now SIP my coffee when in fact I need it so much I would prefer it intravenously (ok that's a lie, that would also be horrid but... whatever).

superpitching, Friday, 8 April 2011 10:12 (thirteen years ago) link

You, who left bacon strips poking up out of the sink drain, are unspeakably foul.

kkvgz, Wednesday, 13 April 2011 14:17 (thirteen years ago) link

ugh that's gross

VegemiteGrrl, Wednesday, 13 April 2011 16:44 (thirteen years ago) link

well my boss stormed out of here in a huff after arguing with our director. part of me hopes he quits so i can take his job.

Zero pumps, massive boner (thebingo), Wednesday, 13 April 2011 17:01 (thirteen years ago) link

COUGH COUGH COUGH COUGH COUGH COUGH COUGH COUGH COUGH COUGH COUGH COUGH COUGH COUGH COUGH COUGH COUGH COUGH COUGH COUGH COUGH COUGH COUGH COUGH COUGH COUGH COUGH COUGH COUGH COUGH COUGH COUGH WEIRD GURGLING NOISE COUGH COUGH COUGH COUGH COUGH COUGH COUGH COUGH COUGH COUGH COUGH COUGH COUGH COUGH COUGH COUGH COUGH COUGH COUGH COUGH

VitaweatavegemiteGrrl (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 14 April 2011 00:30 (thirteen years ago) link

i am srsly about to go spare

VitaweatavegemiteGrrl (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 14 April 2011 00:31 (thirteen years ago) link

<3 ur d/n!!

VegemiteGrrl, Thursday, 14 April 2011 00:45 (thirteen years ago) link

^_^ ta

VitaweatavegemiteGrrl (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 14 April 2011 00:47 (thirteen years ago) link

so some guys at work fire up Quake nearly everyday at lunch. it's generally pretty amusing cuz they're not really the gamer types at all but they know Quake deathmatch backwards and forwards after years of the same routine. the other day one guy (who's 60+) started saying "UNDERDAAAAWG" or "I'M THE WINNER" seemingly after every kill. went from lol to PLZ STFU pretty quickly. lot of annoyed mumbling in surrounding cubicles where the only the thing i could make out was "ajsdhf jsnnf a nf underdog asj sahhs".

circa1916, Thursday, 14 April 2011 01:18 (thirteen years ago) link

So the helpdesk TL comes up and starts off with "so you know how X is going on a month's leave from next week..."

- I'm the one who covers a large chunk of X's job when he's away
- no, I wasnt aware of this months leave because no one tells me anything grr
- TL dude was as annoyed as I was that I didnt know
- I generally like my job but this place has the orginsational skills of a... bag of disorganised rats.

Concubine Tree (Trayce), Friday, 15 April 2011 04:26 (thirteen years ago) link

Imagining you working with rat kings.

a giant and leaky bag of mayhem (Jesse), Friday, 15 April 2011 13:31 (thirteen years ago) link

had a bake morning for charity

One coworker didn't bake anything, so went down and bought a load of cakes at the local shop

Paid for it out of communal tea kitty, which is now empty

Doesn't see a problem

wtf

the salmon of procrastination (darraghmac), Friday, 15 April 2011 13:45 (thirteen years ago) link

ha ha ha that's awesome, that takes a special kind of blinkered that needs to be cherished.

Yossarian's sense of humour (NotEnough), Friday, 15 April 2011 14:05 (thirteen years ago) link

until we run out of kitkats, yeah sure

the salmon of procrastination (darraghmac), Friday, 15 April 2011 14:19 (thirteen years ago) link

what a scumbag

VegemiteGrrl, Friday, 15 April 2011 16:51 (thirteen years ago) link

isn't that theft?

got electrolytes (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 15 April 2011 18:33 (thirteen years ago) link

that is assholishness of the highest order at the very least

VegemiteGrrl, Friday, 15 April 2011 18:46 (thirteen years ago) link

magnificent shitbaggery

night mode (margins), Friday, 15 April 2011 18:49 (thirteen years ago) link

monumental fucktardery

Funky Mustard (People It's Bad) (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 15 April 2011 18:51 (thirteen years ago) link

douchebagitude

VegemiteGrrl, Friday, 15 April 2011 18:51 (thirteen years ago) link

What everyone else has said.

Okay, nobody particularly stupid or annoying. But 5(!) straight people have just made popcorn in the microwave and it smells AWFUL in here.

'what are you, the Hymen Protection League of America?' (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 15 April 2011 19:18 (thirteen years ago) link

Would it be OK if they were gay?

nickn, Friday, 15 April 2011 20:01 (thirteen years ago) link

Yes, gay made popcorn smells SO much better.

'what are you, the Hymen Protection League of America?' (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 15 April 2011 20:04 (thirteen years ago) link

omg someone fucking shoot me

i am not getting paid nearly enough to deal with my boss' bullshit!!!! i now have to fire someone like one day after they've started.

just1n3, Thursday, 21 April 2011 15:24 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm getting tired of newspeak in my place. Things get used and become more and more popular, right now it is "moving forward" bleugh and "starter for ten" eugh.
Can we not just speak plainly, and jettison the catchphrases! Please folks?

I am leader of the sheeple (captain rosie), Thursday, 21 April 2011 15:35 (thirteen years ago) link

wtf is "starter for ten"?

got electrolytes (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 21 April 2011 19:18 (thirteen years ago) link

sounds like a 90's indie band.

got electrolytes (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 21 April 2011 19:19 (thirteen years ago) link

sounds like restaurant talk

VegemiteGrrl, Thursday, 21 April 2011 19:42 (thirteen years ago) link

some shithead in here came up to me and asked if i could mail out a package for her, i told her it needed to go to the post office because it costs too much. she was all "really"? I put it on the scale and it blew the needle off the charts. "DO YOU SEE NOW SHIT HEAD!"

Zero pumps, massive boner (thebingo), Thursday, 21 April 2011 19:50 (thirteen years ago) link

DO U SEE

VegemiteGrrl, Thursday, 21 April 2011 19:53 (thirteen years ago) link

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starter_for_Ten

not_goodwin, Thursday, 21 April 2011 19:58 (thirteen years ago) link

well that's not very helpful

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Thursday, 21 April 2011 20:26 (thirteen years ago) link

The phrase Starter for Ten is used when introducing a new strategy, a plan, the beginning of a project. For example "so, as a starter for ten, here are the new audit plans" It doesn't even make sense. It is annoying as fuck.

I am leader of the sheeple (captain rosie), Thursday, 21 April 2011 20:29 (thirteen years ago) link

If it ever catches on here, I'm coming over and shooting everyone who had anything to do with starting it. It's bad enough that I work with a bunch of actual and wanna-be MBAs.

Back up the lesbian canoe (Laurel), Thursday, 21 April 2011 20:30 (thirteen years ago) link

That is exceptionally annoying.

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Thursday, 21 April 2011 20:31 (thirteen years ago) link

Sounds like the US equivalent would be some variation on "survey SAYS..." But I can't imagine anyone saying that in a semi-serious office setting.

Funky Mustard (People It's Bad) (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 21 April 2011 20:31 (thirteen years ago) link

It snowballs in our place, one douche uses it and then slowly it creeps round and becomes a common term. It sits next to "blue sky thinking" and more recently "thinking outside of the box"

Fuck the box, I'll get out of the box, crush the box, then put the box inside me, yeah, how'd you like that now you corporate fucks!

Errrr, rant over.

I am leader of the sheeple (captain rosie), Thursday, 21 April 2011 20:37 (thirteen years ago) link

i like the box.
want to forever be inside it.

got electrolytes (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 21 April 2011 20:38 (thirteen years ago) link

The box pays my bills, I have little choice.

I am leader of the sheeple (captain rosie), Thursday, 21 April 2011 20:41 (thirteen years ago) link

Sounds like you all have a bad case of box. Maybe some oatmeal baths will help.

Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Thursday, 21 April 2011 20:46 (thirteen years ago) link

This package sat for a week b/c the shipping dept couldn't deduce the business name from the email.

--
From: Purchase Clerk
Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 10:38 AM
To: Shipping Dept.
Cc: Me
Subject: RETURN TO NEW EGG

xxxxx the two boxes you have back there that we talked about need to be sent back on our ups or fedx which ever is cheaper.

I just contacted NEWEGG.

Thanks for the help.
--

You Get Hoynes (bnw), Thursday, 21 April 2011 20:51 (thirteen years ago) link

The first email of the day Mr. X's admin assistant saying she'll be out. The email is sent to all staff. The day's second all staff email is from our chief, titled "Additional people not in today" (bold mine) and listing a couple of people who had also called out. An hour later, Mr. X replies to the chief's email, stating "My admin will not be in today."

kkvgz, Tuesday, 26 April 2011 14:24 (thirteen years ago) link

The first email of the day is Mr. X's

kkvgz, Tuesday, 26 April 2011 14:24 (thirteen years ago) link

Silly rabbit -- executives don't have to read anyone else's emails.

Back up the lesbian canoe (Laurel), Tuesday, 26 April 2011 14:32 (thirteen years ago) link

Back when the personal computer was new, there were executives who resisted using them. Why? Because they were worried that they'd lose status if they had a keyboard on their desk.

Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Tuesday, 26 April 2011 14:37 (thirteen years ago) link

It was analogous to a CEO having a Dictaphone on his desk. But I have people for that!

Funky Mustard (People It's Bad) (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 26 April 2011 14:47 (thirteen years ago) link

I have worked with execs who had their secretaries print out their emails and read them aloud, rather than learn to check their own email as it came in. Not surprised by that stuff anymore, unfortunately.

Back up the lesbian canoe (Laurel), Tuesday, 26 April 2011 14:52 (thirteen years ago) link

For the love of all that is good, please stop scraping your plastic bowl with a plastic spoon for an hour and a half every morning. I hate you.

'what are you, the Hymen Protection League of America?' (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 26 April 2011 14:57 (thirteen years ago) link

i read somewhere (I thought Gawker but now I can't find it) yesterday about an entertainment executive who had his assistant do google searches and videotape the results so that he could look at them later

congratulations (n/a), Tuesday, 26 April 2011 14:58 (thirteen years ago) link

okay that is horrible

I just like… I just have to say… (Starts crying) (DJP), Tuesday, 26 April 2011 14:59 (thirteen years ago) link

No printed screen shots?

Actually, I suspect that the real point is to assert your power by making your assistants do extra work. Kind of like the wife of the client I had five years ago who insisted on me putting groceries into the cart in a certain weird way, among other things--it's a constant reminder of your servitude.

Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Tuesday, 26 April 2011 15:16 (thirteen years ago) link

Silly rabbit -- executives don't have to read anyone else's emails.

― Back up the lesbian canoe (Laurel), Tuesday, April 26, 2011 10:32 AM (44 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Not an executive.

kkvgz, Tuesday, 26 April 2011 15:16 (thirteen years ago) link

Christine is kind of OTM but not exactly; sometimes it isn't about reinforcing the servitude role as much as it is an outward expression of anxiety re: giving up some degree of control over a task.

(not always, or maybe even frequently, but often enough that it's worth mentioning)

I just like… I just have to say… (Starts crying) (DJP), Tuesday, 26 April 2011 15:20 (thirteen years ago) link

please stop walking around and talking on your bluetooth headset.

Stupid Prick Gets Chased by the Police and Loses His Slut Girlfriend (thebingo), Tuesday, 26 April 2011 15:35 (thirteen years ago) link

ha we have a guy who does that but he's just the grad student worker and he's talking about the little league coaching he's going to do that afternoon or what sneakers he wants to buy. he has a very loud voice and we have essentially an open campus with nothing to impede the sound, but he seemingly has no shame walking around bellowing about his personal business into his bluetooth headset while ostensibly working.

congratulations (n/a), Tuesday, 26 April 2011 15:38 (thirteen years ago) link

i can't get too mad though because they're probably paying him peanuts

congratulations (n/a), Tuesday, 26 April 2011 15:38 (thirteen years ago) link

im about two seconds from ramming that headset into her ear.

Stupid Prick Gets Chased by the Police and Loses His Slut Girlfriend (thebingo), Tuesday, 26 April 2011 16:15 (thirteen years ago) link

One of mine drinks roughly 4l of water/various fluids a day. Which wouldn't be a problem if he wasn't so loud, slurping and gulping to the point I can hear him even when he sits across the room. Suggestions?

gyac, Tuesday, 26 April 2011 17:42 (thirteen years ago) link

a hose. pointed directly in his face.

VegemiteGrrl, Tuesday, 26 April 2011 17:43 (thirteen years ago) link

the guys who bring in candy, but it's all hersheys bars (straight chocolate), tootsie rolls, hard flavored candy, smarties, and old jolly ranchers, it's just like DUDE, get some kit kats or something!!!

frogbs, Tuesday, 26 April 2011 17:53 (thirteen years ago) link

BASTARDS!

got electrolytes (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 26 April 2011 18:05 (thirteen years ago) link

my coworkers only bring in MORE WORK.

got electrolytes (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 26 April 2011 18:05 (thirteen years ago) link

AND THEIR EMOTIONAL BAGGAGE

got electrolytes (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 26 April 2011 18:05 (thirteen years ago) link

VERYY LITTLE CHOCOLATE

got electrolytes (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 26 April 2011 18:06 (thirteen years ago) link

my coworkers bring in so much food it's embarrassing. I mean, it was nice when we'd have a potluck once in a while but bringing in breakfast every single morning gets a bit crazy-making

VegemiteGrrl, Tuesday, 26 April 2011 18:08 (thirteen years ago) link

this could be a new ILX thread - "people who bring hard candy to work are the most irredeemable scoundrels"

frogbs, Tuesday, 26 April 2011 18:09 (thirteen years ago) link

Ugh I ate some Hersheys milk chocolate yesterday because it was the only thing in the office kitchen cupboard (a huge cupboard filled with mainly terrible snacks). Now I get why my fellow britishers say it takes like sick because IT REALLY DOES.

That guy who videoed his asst's search queries was Jeffery Katzenberg who is head of Dreamworks and generally considered to maybe perhaps be a bit of an ass.

Shit like this is all too common; a few years ago our letting agents took ages to respond to our email telling them that we wanted to give notice to leave our rented flat, so we went into the office and the asst was like "Oh, I printed out your email but they probably haven't gotten to it in the pile yet".

Not the real Village People, Tuesday, 26 April 2011 18:51 (thirteen years ago) link

oh i thought it was katzenberg! but i also thought i saw it on gawker, which is apparently why i couldn't find it.

congratulations (n/a), Tuesday, 26 April 2011 19:00 (thirteen years ago) link

Ugh I ate some Hersheys milk chocolate yesterday because it was the only thing in the office kitchen cupboard (a huge cupboard filled with mainly terrible snacks). Now I get why my fellow britishers say it takes like sick because IT REALLY DOES.

Somewhere there is a brilliant ILX thread on which I learnt that Hersheys tastes of sick because iirc it is made with off milk!

(You can't get fresh milk to mix with cocoa powder properly; Nestlé found the way round this by using condensed milk, and Hershey, not wanting to be left out on the new chocolate craze, improvised)

FYI I bought some cakes and biscuits to take into work tomorrow, and if anyone calls me stupid and annoying because none of the 6 varieties I've brought in suit them, they're getting a punch bleak look. Especially if they are the guy in my office who eats whatever's going round but never brings any in, never puts money in leaving cards, etc. He is "saving for a holiday" but fuck that, he's just bought a brand new smartphone for the third time in 18 months.

dimension hatris (a passing spacecadet), Tuesday, 26 April 2011 19:04 (thirteen years ago) link

hersheys is the bomb.

Stupid Prick Gets Chased by the Police and Loses His Slut Girlfriend (thebingo), Tuesday, 26 April 2011 19:07 (thirteen years ago) link

if you bring in donuts, the ratio of glazed to filled should be like 12:1

trust me on this

frogbs, Tuesday, 26 April 2011 19:12 (thirteen years ago) link

thats what she said

Stupid Prick Gets Chased by the Police and Loses His Slut Girlfriend (thebingo), Tuesday, 26 April 2011 19:34 (thirteen years ago) link

in our office, most of us take thirty mins for lunch.

except one person, who takes forty...to go out and get lunch, which he then spends another thirty noisily consuming. the place he gets it from isn't even far away, there are two around 5 mins away each.

gyac, Tuesday, 26 April 2011 21:52 (thirteen years ago) link

Oh my god, I do not care about the fucking royal wedding. SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP. ALL OF YOU.

'what are you, the Hymen Protection League of America?' (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 29 April 2011 13:21 (thirteen years ago) link

OMFG. SEVEN people standing right next to my desk blathering like school children about this goddamn wedding. So fucking annoyed today.

'what are you, the Hymen Protection League of America?' (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 29 April 2011 13:24 (thirteen years ago) link

but her dress was soooooooooooooooooooo beautiful

Dreaded Burrito Gang (DJP), Friday, 29 April 2011 13:29 (thirteen years ago) link

lol I know I sound exceedingly bitter, I just DO NOT understand the appeal of this for U.S. people AT ALL. Also, like, how much actual good could have been accomplished with all the money being spent to send all the media over to England?

'what are you, the Hymen Protection League of America?' (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 29 April 2011 13:31 (thirteen years ago) link

I am happy that none of the people sitting around me care even a little bit about the wedding

Dreaded Burrito Gang (DJP), Friday, 29 April 2011 13:33 (thirteen years ago) link

Oh how I wish.

'what are you, the Hymen Protection League of America?' (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 29 April 2011 13:34 (thirteen years ago) link

Oh christ, now they are talking about it via email, copied TO THE ENTIRE OFFICE. WTF

'what are you, the Hymen Protection League of America?' (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 29 April 2011 13:36 (thirteen years ago) link

One girl sent out a picture of "the kiss" and now its like an unbroken stream of shit. Like, ugh. WTF.

'what are you, the Hymen Protection League of America?' (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 29 April 2011 13:36 (thirteen years ago) link

Our connection is abnormally slow today. How the fuck are we supposed to get any work done like this?

Castle Law! (u s steel), Friday, 29 April 2011 13:37 (thirteen years ago) link

so my coworker turned into a pile of batshit crazy yesterday, and forced me to sit down to a "chat" where she listed, like, a dozen really weird things i do that annoy her: that i only show up 20 minutes early for work, as opposed to the 30 i used to; that i once shopped online for a DVD during my lunch break; that i have better relationships with our coworkers than she does (and she's been around longer), etc., etc., etc. she told me she will not write me a good recommendation for another position when this one ends, unless i "blend in" more. she told me i don't "know my place." when i tried to protest/explain/question she yelled "I DON"T LIKE THIS FINGERPOINTING" and "THIS CONVERSATION IS OVER" but made me sit there while she continued to lecture me for a while more. when i told our supervisor, the supervisor basically confirmed that she thinks this coworker has borderline personality disorder.

ughhh. this same coworker yesterday called a juvenile client's parent to tell them the client was in a "self-destructive spiral" and needed "significant intervention" because the client got nervous and cried before a major placement test.

they call him (remy bean), Friday, 29 April 2011 14:00 (thirteen years ago) link

that i have better relationships with our coworkers than she does (and she's been around longer)

WTF. That sounds incredibly annoying, but also a little frightening that this person might have any sort of influence on your ability to advance. Do you think it boils down to jealousy/intimidation?

'what are you, the Hymen Protection League of America?' (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 29 April 2011 14:02 (thirteen years ago) link

> i have better relationships with our coworkers

and yet you still need to "blend in" more? makes no sense.

koogs, Friday, 29 April 2011 14:05 (thirteen years ago) link

Remy that whole thing sounds really sadly familiar. Have boundaries here but also you know that there's no good answer to this kind of crazy -- no matter how gently you turn it aside, she'll blow up. Can you get out from underneath the chain of command with her in it?

Back up the lesbian canoe (Laurel), Friday, 29 April 2011 14:05 (thirteen years ago) link

Remy, that's some sick-ass, scary shit. Can't your supervisor do an end-run around the coworker and write you the recommendation?

Funky Mustard (People It's Bad) (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 29 April 2011 14:06 (thirteen years ago) link

it sounds like they both report to the same supervisor and the supervisor thinks she's crazy

Dreaded Burrito Gang (DJP), Friday, 29 April 2011 14:07 (thirteen years ago) link

djp is right. supervisor already thinks this coworker is crazy, but didn't really know the extent until i related the conversation.

this is a contract position will expire in a couple of months, thank goodness. i'll got great recs from all of my other coworkers. i think i already got screwed out of a long-term job here b/c of crazy coworker's snakey recommendation a few weeks ago, tbh. she's got a notoriously bad relationship w/ her closest team, and i don't really fancy being part of it for any length of time. i'm feeling amazingly level-headed, given that the person i have to work side-by-side with for 8 hours each day just outed themselves as totally cuckoo. moreover, a lot of the kind-of-offputting stuff i'd seen from her in the past month and rationalized as "a different way of doing things" i can now acknowledge as straight up malfeasance.

they call him (remy bean), Friday, 29 April 2011 14:11 (thirteen years ago) link

maybe you can get her fired as your final project

Dreaded Burrito Gang (DJP), Friday, 29 April 2011 14:12 (thirteen years ago) link

At what part of that conversation did you slide from prickly fear/confrontation/nervousness to just "ah yes, I see what this is now" relative calm?

Back up the lesbian canoe (Laurel), Friday, 29 April 2011 14:14 (thirteen years ago) link

seriously though, go to HR with a formal complaint (or, if more appropriate, express concern about the mental health of your coworker) and start documenting the shit out of everything she does and Bcc your supervisor on every email you send her

best case, she gets bounced for STD* leave and you get an extension filling in for her, giving you the opportunity to make her irrelevant by being better at her job than she is

worst case, no one does anything (you already have your recommendations and exit strategy)

"short-term disability, you pervs

Dreaded Burrito Gang (DJP), Friday, 29 April 2011 14:18 (thirteen years ago) link

ohh, i am doing all of that – basically w/ support from other coworkers.

and laurel, i slid into the blissful relief of "oh, this isn't real –– it's just bananas talk when she said "i'm disappointed in you. i'm feeling disappointment with you. in fact, i'm even – i don't know, just disappointed. i expected more from you. and you've provided me with a lot of disappointment. frankly, i feel like you haven't lived up to what i imagined your potential might be, and i'm not sure i can write a good recommendation for you any more. it would just say i'm disappointed, unless you can do things my way for the next few weeks, and really finish out the year strongly" (pause, while she studies my – kind of incredulous – face) "and i'm sure you're going to take that in your head, and you've already twisted it so it seems like blackmail or whatever but you know that's not what i mean"

they call him (remy bean), Friday, 29 April 2011 14:21 (thirteen years ago) link

Wow. Yeah. The digs to make you insecure, the naked desperation of running you down as much as possible to keep you on edge.... Shit is poisonous.

Back up the lesbian canoe (Laurel), Friday, 29 April 2011 14:31 (thirteen years ago) link

in the face of that, it would have taken every fiber of my being to keep from saying "Disappointed a few people? Isn't that what friends are for?"

well actually I wouldn't have said it but it would have run through my head, as is happening right now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6Bv887-JlM

Dreaded Burrito Gang (DJP), Friday, 29 April 2011 14:33 (thirteen years ago) link

Reading remy's coworker in voice of crazy computer from Portal, improved immensely

sorry remy, at least your supervisor seems to know the score, and hopefully even if she does write a bad reference it will be so obviously dripping with the crazy that nobody will take it seriously in among positive reviews

(I don't know about in the US but in the UK iirc it's actually pretty uncommon to get an outright bad reference because the employee can sue if the writer can't provide documented evidence to back up negative comments - is there anything similar in place in the US?)

russ conway's game of life (a passing spacecadet), Friday, 29 April 2011 15:02 (thirteen years ago) link

oh yes

Dreaded Burrito Gang (DJP), Friday, 29 April 2011 15:04 (thirteen years ago) link

Well, it did seem kind of improbable that the US would be less litigious than the UK about anything, but while we are talking about national stereotypes it did seem possible that the laws might be less in the employee's favour...

russ conway's game of life (a passing spacecadet), Friday, 29 April 2011 15:07 (thirteen years ago) link

"i'm disappointed in you. i'm feeling disappointment with you. in fact, i'm even – i don't know, just disappointed. i expected more from you. and you've provided me with a lot of disappointment. frankly, i feel like you haven't lived up to what i imagined your potential might be, and i'm not sure i can write a good recommendation for you any more. it would just say i'm disappointed, unless you can do things my way for the next few weeks, and really finish out the year strongly" (pause, while she studies my – kind of incredulous – face) "and i'm sure you're going to take that in your head, and you've already twisted it so it seems like blackmail or whatever but you know that's not what i mean"

She's clearly aiming for that new supervisor job that's opened up in Scranton.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 29 April 2011 15:08 (thirteen years ago) link

lol Ned

'what are you, the Hymen Protection League of America?' (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 29 April 2011 15:08 (thirteen years ago) link

wow, good luck Remy -- I'm glad your supervisor knows the score

Latest issue of the magazine I work for is about 10 days late to the printer because of undisclosed issues with the editor/publisher. (And one day late because of storms, and one more day late because the Staples in Morgan Hill is apparently staffed by the bastard sons of Jeff Spicoli.) Hopefully I can get it all off to the printer today.

the wages of sin is about tree fiddy (WmC), Friday, 29 April 2011 15:25 (thirteen years ago) link

many of my normally quite nice and not annoying at all co-workers seem to have turned into zombies passing comment on the dress some woman on the television is wearing at her wedding.

The New Dirty Vicar, Friday, 29 April 2011 16:04 (thirteen years ago) link

Not annoying, just funny: helped a co-worker who was having trouble burning files to a DVD. Turned out she was trying to burn them onto that clear plastic disc that sits on top of the spool of blank DVDs.

You're fucking fired and you know jack shit about horses (James Morrison), Saturday, 30 April 2011 00:38 (thirteen years ago) link

Helpdesk TL: "can you fax this customer a domain name application form?"
Me: "uh... ok" (thinking: if you knew they needed one would it not have been faster to take 5 mins to print one out and fax it to them while you were on the matter, instead of passing it to me, who doesnt do such work normally, and who put it aside, so it wasnt done til an hour later when you asked again? DONT SIGH HEAVILY AT ME. Fuck sake.)

The man who mistook his life for a FAP (Trayce), Tuesday, 10 May 2011 03:02 (thirteen years ago) link

Like seriously, he might as well have said "I need to call this customer can you dial the number for me please?". Nuts. Sick of the interruptions. I've started counting them so I can go back to my boss and say "see THIS is where all my time goes, 2 hours of 5 constant, 5-10 minute interruptions from these idjits".

The man who mistook his life for a FAP (Trayce), Tuesday, 10 May 2011 03:03 (thirteen years ago) link

Please stop with the laughing for 20 seconds at a time after every sentence.

ljubljana, Tuesday, 10 May 2011 03:34 (thirteen years ago) link

I can't stand when people do that. Every single one of my co-workers laughs uproariously at everything they say, no matter how inane: "How am I doing today? Well, it's Monday! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!"

shake it, shake it, sugary pee (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 10 May 2011 03:41 (thirteen years ago) link

Maybe thats the "you have to laugh, or you'll go postal and kill everyone with a chainsaw" thing.

The man who mistook his life for a FAP (Trayce), Tuesday, 10 May 2011 05:25 (thirteen years ago) link

I think a lot of insecure ppl do this. Like one of the few people at my work who flat out refuses to say hello/acknowledge your presence when you see them in the lift or wherever and just stares at the ground to avoid eye contact is the loudest cackling disgrace in the office when she's with her 'team'.

yuoowemeone, Tuesday, 10 May 2011 06:20 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah Ive been known to slightly exagerate a crap joke, small talk or hearty laugh at work on occasion out of nerves/hating small talk. Dont do it all the time tho.

The man who mistook his life for a FAP (Trayce), Tuesday, 10 May 2011 06:51 (thirteen years ago) link

Every single one of my co-workers laughs uproariously at everything they say, no matter how inane: "How am I doing today? Well, it's Monday! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!"

Peter: Does anyone ever say to you, "Sounds like someone has a case of the Mondays?"
Lawrence: No. No, man. Shit, no, man. I believe you'd get your ass kicked sayin' something like that, man.

My new coworker has Asp3rg3rs and my stereotypes of little Spocks who find humour puzzling have been shattered, as this guy dissolves into uncontrollable giggles for about 5 minutes every time anyone mentions anything not going 100% to plan, any slight incidence of human error, etc, which is pretty much every time anyone speaks

(we are all trying to hold together some pretty badly thought-out projects in the face of general incompetence, oblivious upper management and insane timescales, but then isn't everyone who's ever had a job?)

russ conway's game of life (a passing spacecadet), Tuesday, 10 May 2011 09:02 (thirteen years ago) link

xposts - the laughter comes literally after every other sentence, not just after lame jokes. As if the whole of the job, and life, is a continual stream of WRY and IRONIC and GOSH WOULD YOU BELIEVE IT and sometimes WE ARE HAVING AN UNCOMFORTABLE CONVERSATION.

ljubljana, Tuesday, 10 May 2011 18:21 (thirteen years ago) link

Dude sitting across from me has the volume on his computer absolutely cranked so every mouse click is echoing across the whole office and the new Outlook mail tone is ridiculously loud. Somehow none of this seems to bother him at all.

'what are you, the Hymen Protection League of America?' (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 12 May 2011 14:05 (thirteen years ago) link

DUDE, how can that not be annoying the shit out of you?

'what are you, the Hymen Protection League of America?' (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 12 May 2011 14:39 (thirteen years ago) link

he's got popcorn stuck in his ears.

Crooked Lust (thebingo), Thursday, 12 May 2011 16:20 (thirteen years ago) link

lolz

'what are you, the Hymen Protection League of America?' (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 12 May 2011 16:21 (thirteen years ago) link

Haven't had to post here in a while, still love the new dept, but...

Last week, long after I've rolled off this project and we'd transitioned to the ongoing te., I get questions from two of the managers asking about missing info from two of their tools.

I point out that anything 'missing' wasn't in the requirements I worked from, and that we found multiple occasions of this prior to me rolling off. Nothing I can do about it, told them what dept they should look to for filling in the gaps, since it's their responsibility now.

So nonetheless, they go to my boss's boss and try to get me tapped to fix their tools...even though three of their people and our client signed off on it prior to my rolloff and I am no longer aligned to them.

My boss's boss thinks they're childish and pushed back...

But then yesterday, I return to the office after a sick day Friday to find a frantic message asking me for files to use in training.

Files that I permanently saved and gave them links to on TEN or more occasions, and that I have permamently deleted from my own drive.

Got sick of it and gave them the links yet again and told them sternly that I am no longer responsible for these, and that they need to save these bookmarks and quit asking us.

Tired of grown adults who can't manage their own affairs!

las bolas de sudor (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 13:14 (twelve years ago) link

the interns here drive me crazy...useless. I get back at them by taking my morning shit in their bathroom.

Crooked Lust (thebingo), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 15:55 (twelve years ago) link

upper-deck?

got electrolytes (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 16:28 (twelve years ago) link

Goddammit. Nothing ruins a nice cup of coffee more than the rancid smell of burnt cheap-ass, "lo-cal" popcorn. I'm just going to start microwaving rancid week-old McDonald's cheeseburgers and throwing them in the trash under her desk.

they have a rule at my place that you're not allowed to pop popcorn on any floors other than the one the cafeteria is on. POSs break it all the time and burnt popcorn smell permeates and I want to poison the entire building when that happens.

she rub A LINK in your poke (Neanderthal), Monday, 23 May 2011 15:08 (twelve years ago) link

we have a no microwaving fish rule!

tehresa, Monday, 23 May 2011 15:50 (twelve years ago) link

the interns here drive me crazy...useless. I get back at them by taking my morning shit in their bathroom.

― Crooked Lust (thebingo), Tuesday, May 17, 2011 11:55 AM (6 days ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

upper-deck?

― got electrolytes (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, May 17, 2011 12:28 PM (6 days ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Goddammit. Nothing ruins a nice cup of coffee more than the rancid smell of burnt cheap-ass.

― 'what are you, the Hymen Protection League of America?' (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, May 23, 2011 10:56 AM (52 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Wacky Way Lounge (Evan), Monday, 23 May 2011 15:52 (twelve years ago) link

thanks Evan for the much needed LOL right now

she rub A LINK in your poke (Neanderthal), Monday, 23 May 2011 15:53 (twelve years ago) link

:D

Wacky Way Lounge (Evan), Monday, 23 May 2011 15:53 (twelve years ago) link

&%^^%$%#$@$#@#$#@^%$&%*^%*^%&^%

The man who mistook his life for a FAP (Trayce), Tuesday, 24 May 2011 02:07 (twelve years ago) link

Get told to sort something out involving ordering phone lines for new office. No one in the staff seems to have any direct idea how this would be done, which beggars belief because SOMEONE here must have ordered the damn things last time we mmved. It's dumped in my lap.

I keep hitting walls when I ask the people I'm told to ask, who all say "go ask these people". I'm getting nowhere. My boss doesnt answer the email where I ask for assistance and then this morning isnt in, so I quickly go ask the billing manager for a copy of the invoice the lines are on so I can work out more clearly who to order new lines from.

AND I GET TOLD OFF FOR ASKING SOMEONE ELSE FOR HELP AND NOT MY BOSS WHO WASNT IN.

Ok SURE, NEXT time I'll just sit here and let it slide and when we move office in 2 weeks and have no phone lines you figure out why. OK THEN.

The man who mistook his life for a FAP (Trayce), Tuesday, 24 May 2011 02:10 (twelve years ago) link

He has this BIZARRE chip about me going to/involving other people when I'm trying to do my job, instead of him. Hes a director. I dont want to involve him with every nitpicky little pissant thing, he has better things to do. Its like hes paranoid he wont know whats going on if I dont keep him involved, which is so strange to me.

The man who mistook his life for a FAP (Trayce), Tuesday, 24 May 2011 02:12 (twelve years ago) link

he should reply to an email then if he's so worried!

got electrolytes (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 24 May 2011 02:33 (twelve years ago) link

Indeed. Ah well, its sorted out now.

The man who mistook his life for a FAP (Trayce), Tuesday, 24 May 2011 02:35 (twelve years ago) link

no phones for anyone.

got electrolytes (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 24 May 2011 02:36 (twelve years ago) link

tin-cup-and-string for all.

got electrolytes (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 24 May 2011 02:36 (twelve years ago) link

\o/

The man who mistook his life for a FAP (Trayce), Tuesday, 24 May 2011 02:37 (twelve years ago) link

honestly any manager who would get upset that you tried to do something without them is fucking retarded.

independence and not disturbing your boss all the time are two skills you're supposed to learn. mine have always been annoyed if I just immediately ran to them for everything.

she rub A LINK in your poke (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 24 May 2011 02:43 (twelve years ago) link

I hate when co-workers gossip to you about people at work you like and respect. Like this one part-timer, a woman, whom I don't like very much. She told some people that my boss was once disciplined for sexual harassment at his old job. I know for a fact this is pure bullshit. This kind of talk is toxic and I consider it a form of sexual harassment.

Deremiah Was a Bullfrog (u s steel), Tuesday, 24 May 2011 13:53 (twelve years ago) link

It is toxic and completely awful, but I don't think it is exactly "sexual" harassment.

I don't mean that the behavior is sexual harassment literally, I mean, it has a similar effect, when someone intimates to you that your boss is a creep and an enemy of women when you find him professional and not lecherous or inappropriate at all.

Deremiah Was a Bullfrog (u s steel), Tuesday, 24 May 2011 14:30 (twelve years ago) link

gotcha

I mean, it's like saying you disrespect women by respecting or associating with some creep.

Deremiah Was a Bullfrog (u s steel), Tuesday, 24 May 2011 14:31 (twelve years ago) link

Ugh. She's burnt two bags of popcorn in the last two hours. I have never known hate like this.

Have you ever told her this is a problem? I mean, you might actually make it stop happening.

out to brunch (WmC), Tuesday, 24 May 2011 15:38 (twelve years ago) link

I myself haven't, but several other people in the office have. She got really defensive and spouted off something about her having "limited snack options" due to "dietary concerns" and that it isn't fair to limit what she can cook in the "public" microwave.

Like, fine, but your "dietary concerns" don't mean you have to burn it every time.

haha.

The Chicago Choad (thebingo), Tuesday, 24 May 2011 16:54 (twelve years ago) link

charcoal diet?

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 24 May 2011 16:57 (twelve years ago) link

tell her to eat shit and see if she is a literalist

she rub A LINK in your poke (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 24 May 2011 19:21 (twelve years ago) link

I'm six weeks into a new job and i haven't anyone to complain about yet. Maybe they're all being polite because i'm new.
One of the partners PA's asked me if i'd like a liquorice allsort, she talks like the Queen, it was bizarre.

not_goodwin, Tuesday, 24 May 2011 19:43 (twelve years ago) link

That just makes me picture the Queen bowing over you, proferring a bag of sweets and saying "wood yew like an allsort, young man?" and maybe I've had too much coffee because that gives me insane giggles.

The man who mistook his life for a FAP (Trayce), Wednesday, 25 May 2011 00:22 (twelve years ago) link

As much as I think a "no microwaving popcorn rule" makes terrific sense from a public health standpoint, one place I worked forbade us from eating "ethnic" foods in the office as, it was reasoned, it might put off prospective clients.

fields of salmon, Wednesday, 25 May 2011 00:58 (twelve years ago) link

OK yeah thats just...

The man who mistook his life for a FAP (Trayce), Wednesday, 25 May 2011 01:29 (twelve years ago) link

I have never understood people's violent reactions to the smells of foods. How sheltered are some people? "oh that curry SMELLS". Yes. It does. It smells like CURRY you mentalists.

The man who mistook his life for a FAP (Trayce), Wednesday, 25 May 2011 01:29 (twelve years ago) link

in our office it's the Great Fish Casserole of 2010 that someone brought in for a potluck...it simmered aaaaaallll day in a crockpot (fish chunks, scallops, mussells, the works) and by 3pm the whole floor smelled like a laundrybasket

Though v tasty at first, the smell soon overtook anyone's desire to eat :(

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 25 May 2011 01:41 (twelve years ago) link

Today my cube neighbor clipped he nails, hacked up a lung all morning, played muzak out of her desktop's speaker and talked to herself for ~20% of the day (which doesn't include the "I'm just talking to myself" response to people in her department).

john. a resident of chicago., Wednesday, 25 May 2011 06:46 (twelve years ago) link

I talk to myself at work all the time :/

The man who mistook his life for a FAP (Trayce), Wednesday, 25 May 2011 06:58 (twelve years ago) link

xxxp In my experience curry and garlic are delicious smells when you walk past a restaurant or are eating/cooking your own but a bit tiresome to sit in a cloud of in an unventilated office all afternoon, especially when it is some white guy's reheated ass-smelling jar curry that he eats twice a day every day, and leaves sitting open on the desk for ages while he's not even in the office, and then I guess it is pretty spicy as he sniffs and clears his throat every 10 seconds for an hour afterwards and gaahh I would tear my ears off</rant>

(and we do have a common room here for people to eat in instead of at their desks, btw)

russ conway's game of life (a passing spacecadet), Wednesday, 25 May 2011 08:41 (twelve years ago) link

i mainly like food smells in work...mainly. when i was leaving my last job i was at that awkward "just been there long enough" stage where they had to get me a card, and i only knew some people in the office. one guy wrote "best of luck, your lunch always looks extremely good," i was pleased.

Suggest Banter (Local Garda), Wednesday, 25 May 2011 08:47 (twelve years ago) link

That just makes me picture the Queen bowing over you, proferring a bag of sweets and saying "wood yew like an allsort, young man?" and maybe I've had too much coffee because that gives me insane giggles.

― The man who mistook his life for a FAP (Trayce), Wednesday, 25 May 2011 01:22 (8 hours ago) Bookmark

Exactly like that.

I find I'm using my interview/phone voice all day long here, and it's tiring.

not_goodwin, Wednesday, 25 May 2011 09:08 (twelve years ago) link

sure just complain all day rather than trying to fix problems

Latham Green, Wednesday, 25 May 2011 13:10 (twelve years ago) link

i mainly like food smells in work...mainly. when i was leaving my last job i was at that awkward "just been there long enough" stage where they had to get me a card, and i only knew some people in the office. one guy wrote "best of luck, your lunch always looks extremely good," i was pleased.

Wow. That is perfect! On the basis of that sentiment, he sounds like a swell guy.

Jesse, Wednesday, 25 May 2011 13:13 (twelve years ago) link

I don't mind food smells at all. Usually take-out has a stronger smell than microwaved food. But I like to see what take-out is available near my workplace.

I guess food smells are distracting and can make you feel like you are working in a restaurant not an office. Then again, an office memo telling everyone to limit their dining to the cafeteria or kitchen might have a toxic effect.

If it's bothering some people that much, the most diplomatic way of handling it is to cheerily point out at the next office meeting that "someone complained" (client, customer etc.) about food smells.

Deremiah Was a Bullfrog (u s steel), Wednesday, 25 May 2011 13:23 (twelve years ago) link

"can't see lincoln park in concert, Bummin' man." SHUT UP

Latham Green, Wednesday, 25 May 2011 13:39 (twelve years ago) link

Actually, 'someone complained' is a pretty wussy way to get out of a conflict, because everyone instinctively knows the someone is not a real person.

delivers maximum wtf per cubic second (suzy), Wednesday, 25 May 2011 13:50 (twelve years ago) link

^^^

I usually don't have a problem with food smells but, c'mon, burnt popcorn is not a "good" food smell in any way, its foul and lasts forever.

'what are you, the Hymen Protection League of America?' (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 25 May 2011 13:54 (twelve years ago) link

I can't think of any dietary issues that can be resolved on a daily diet of nothing but microwaved popcorn. Women who use our disinclination to challenge a 'sick person' as a shield for their bad manners drive me nuts, too, but if I were truly wanting the problem gone, I'd complain that it was both smelly and unprofessional to be sat there nibbling all day like some orally-fixated simpleton. Besides which, I'm sure the butter juice on that shit is full of carcinogens.

delivers maximum wtf per cubic second (suzy), Wednesday, 25 May 2011 14:03 (twelve years ago) link

"Besides which, I'm sure the butter juice on that shit is full of carcinogens."
I think you're right - I don't trust it except to lubricate my Navy Ship!

I eat gluten-free but my coworkers are always giving me donuts and things - no one seems to get it

Latham Green, Wednesday, 25 May 2011 14:05 (twelve years ago) link

there was a guy on the trading floor a few years back who used to clip his TOENAILS at his desk.

Anyways, there is an idiot here today in shorts and flip flops...hey fuck wad this isn't the beach.

The Chicago Choad (thebingo), Wednesday, 25 May 2011 14:40 (twelve years ago) link

Wow, clipping toenails at work is horrifying. I thought it was bad that my boss at my old job constantly clipped his fingernails during conference calls.

'what are you, the Hymen Protection League of America?' (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 25 May 2011 14:42 (twelve years ago) link

hah - I have seen nurses in flip flops - imagine someone crapping on your naked foot?

Latham Green, Wednesday, 25 May 2011 14:42 (twelve years ago) link

yeah he would be like mid-trade and have his fuckin barefoot up on his desk clipping away. he never cleaned it up either. probably rotten toenail pieces in peoples rice crispies and shit. he was also one of the most disgusting members of the animal species i've ever seen, eczema, dandruff, smelled of BO.

The Chicago Choad (thebingo), Wednesday, 25 May 2011 14:44 (twelve years ago) link

OH BOY POPCORN TIME

'what are you, the Hymen Protection League of America?' (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 25 May 2011 14:47 (twelve years ago) link

Clip your toenails into it!

The Chicago Choad (thebingo), Wednesday, 25 May 2011 14:48 (twelve years ago) link

Popcorn doesn't really make you feel full, though. It satisfies the taste buds, not the stomach. It's easy to develop an oral fixation at work, a way for non-smokers to cope with stress.

I like to hit up import candy shops when I get a chance and keep bags of those in my drawer. A trip to the candy store is a must on return from any vacation. I don't think I've put on weight from sucking on flavorful imported candies all day.

Deremiah Was a Bullfrog (u s steel), Wednesday, 25 May 2011 15:08 (twelve years ago) link

we have a "fly situation" at work

there are a few flies in our office

we are having a meeting about the fly situation on friday

it's been the main topic of conversation for about a week now

Crackle Box, Wednesday, 25 May 2011 15:13 (twelve years ago) link

meanwhile, our cost of living increase, didn't increase and nobody gives a shit about that.

just these damn flies.

Crackle Box, Wednesday, 25 May 2011 15:13 (twelve years ago) link

Find out popcorn lady's direct line. It is now to the point where random anonymous callers need to intervene by calling and saying 'enough with the popcorn, we can smell you in London.'

delivers maximum wtf per cubic second (suzy), Wednesday, 25 May 2011 15:31 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah, that might work if we weren't an open office plan and her desk wasn't ~7 feet away from me.

'what are you, the Hymen Protection League of America?' (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 25 May 2011 15:34 (twelve years ago) link

have you considered crop dusting her in retaliation

Tom Skerritt Mustache Ride (DJP), Wednesday, 25 May 2011 15:38 (twelve years ago) link

We will soon be abandoning our dismal and decrepit old office for new office space in a LEED Gold-certified building; beautiful, airy, floor-to ceiling windows all the way around, view for miles. Plentiful covering, both covered and open, public transport accessible, walkable to lunch spots, grocery, etc. The gym and locker rooms are free and fantastic, up there with uber-high end hotel gyms. Towel service, even!

I have a staff person complaining that the new space has too much natural light.

FFS, some people just work at being unhappy with everything.

quincie, Wednesday, 25 May 2011 15:47 (twelve years ago) link

like dan said, except dont crop dust. When she gets up and leaves the popcorn bag out, go over and fart into it.

The Chicago Choad (thebingo), Wednesday, 25 May 2011 15:48 (twelve years ago) link

seal it.

The Chicago Choad (thebingo), Wednesday, 25 May 2011 15:54 (twelve years ago) link

I have a staff person complaining that the new space has too much natural light.

FFS, some people just work at being unhappy with everything.

Are you in a position to just flat out fire this person? I only half kid.

'what are you, the Hymen Protection League of America?' (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 25 May 2011 15:56 (twelve years ago) link

I can't fire her, but she will not go further up the mgmt ladder on my watch, that's for sure!

quincie, Wednesday, 25 May 2011 16:06 (twelve years ago) link

I mean, thats like three steps beyond those people that bitch about the selection when reps bring us free lunch.

'what are you, the Hymen Protection League of America?' (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 25 May 2011 16:08 (twelve years ago) link

I bet popcorn girl is one of the bitchers

The Chicago Choad (thebingo), Wednesday, 25 May 2011 16:09 (twelve years ago) link

I'm gonna buy a pair of hideous drug store sunglasses for too much natural light lady and leave them on her desk anonymously.

quincie, Wednesday, 25 May 2011 16:10 (twelve years ago) link

I bet popcorn girl is one of the bitchers

Haha, no, because she always "opts out" of the fee lunches. Probably because they never bring popcorn.

'what are you, the Hymen Protection League of America?' (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 25 May 2011 16:11 (twelve years ago) link

Does she like it burned? If not, maybe you could gently suggest she shorten the cooking time in the future.

nickn, Wednesday, 25 May 2011 18:44 (twelve years ago) link

I keep expecting to read a description of me on this thread.

The New Dirty Vicar, Wednesday, 25 May 2011 18:54 (twelve years ago) link

It would be funny if there were two ILXors who worked together and didn't realize they internet-knew each other.

Goonhynhnms & YaHOOS (WmC), Wednesday, 25 May 2011 20:15 (twelve years ago) link

its my worst fear when I read this thread

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 25 May 2011 20:34 (twelve years ago) link

i can't help it. i just love burnt popcorn!! :(

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Wednesday, 25 May 2011 20:49 (twelve years ago) link

just heard outside my window "lets get crunk sometime."

The Chicago Choad (thebingo), Wednesday, 25 May 2011 20:50 (twelve years ago) link

Lady, if you're going to make crass ridiculous statements like 'that [trying to help with a situation that is not your responsibility, doing a great job but not 100% of it coming off] really damaged your reputation', then stick by it and don't cave 2 minutes later and admit the parts that got you in trouble were your own damn fault.

ljubljana, Thursday, 26 May 2011 03:39 (twelve years ago) link

I have a staff person complaining that the new space has too much natural light.

Our office just moved into a LEED Gold-certified building, and you know what? There is too much fucking natural light. If I want to work in a goddamn car dealership, I know where to apply. I don't. The sun relentlessly blazing in through the wall of floor-to-ceiling windows makes my workspace nauseatingly hot and stuffy, and the glare gives me vicious headaches every afternoon. I can't close the blinds because the LEED cert requires that we don't have any, otherwise the natural-lit interior offices will be too dark. There is zero privacy since all offices have to have wall-to-ceiling glass to let in more natural light, so we feel like zoo animals. Fuck natural light. It sucks.

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Thursday, 26 May 2011 09:44 (twelve years ago) link

hahaha, grarrrr! anyway, to make this more relevant, we all annoy each other by continually staring into each other's offices. everybody hates it, but nobody can stop.

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Thursday, 26 May 2011 13:08 (twelve years ago) link

Honestly, if your building is LEED certified and you are having that much trouble with glare and heat from all of the glass, it sounds like someone along the chain skimped and put in cheap windows. Done properly, there are many types of glazing that would and should eliminate those issues (or at least make them less severe).

'what are you, the Hymen Protection League of America?' (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 26 May 2011 13:35 (twelve years ago) link

Sexual harassment lady also bitches about getting passed up for promotions and "unfairness". I honestly don't understand why she works here. She is underqualified. She's lucky to be getting a check at all.

x-post, oh god the skinflint architecture in some urban buildings. It's funny how really old buildings seem more humane with all of their flaws.

Deremiah Was a Bullfrog (u s steel), Thursday, 26 May 2011 14:11 (twelve years ago) link

There seriously has to be something I can do about this fucking popcorn bullshit. Second bag of the morning already.

'what are you, the Hymen Protection League of America?' (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 26 May 2011 14:47 (twelve years ago) link

Try getting a head injury that causes you to lose your sense of smell?

free inappropriate education (Abbbottt), Thursday, 26 May 2011 14:48 (twelve years ago) link

one of us

free inappropriate education (Abbbottt), Thursday, 26 May 2011 14:49 (twelve years ago) link

Tempting. The problem is that a) I sit directly next to the breakroom where the microwave is and b) she opens the bag as she walks back to the desk, shaking it and letting the filthy fucking stench overwhlem the office immediately.

'what are you, the Hymen Protection League of America?' (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 26 May 2011 14:50 (twelve years ago) link

You either have to live with it (and bitch to ilx for stress relief) or blow up the fragile peace of the office enviro.

Goonhynhnms & YaHOOS (WmC), Thursday, 26 May 2011 14:50 (twelve years ago) link

I am really trying to live with it and not get too uptight about it. But really, that'd be much easier if it was even only once a day. But some days its up to four times, which I think is kind of ridiculous.

'what are you, the Hymen Protection League of America?' (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 26 May 2011 14:51 (twelve years ago) link

okay, why don't you go the passive-aggressive route, and buy a can of air freshener, and spray it EVERY SINGLE TIME she walks by? alternately tell her that popcorn is really pretty harsh on your stomach and causes expansion and gas and (lord knows) she obviously doesn't need any more of that.

remy bean, Thursday, 26 May 2011 14:53 (twelve years ago) link

Also maybe if it wasn't cheap-ass, off-brand "lo cal" popcorn it might be a little more tolerable.

Lol, I might actually try that air freshener idea.

'what are you, the Hymen Protection League of America?' (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 26 May 2011 14:54 (twelve years ago) link

buy her some good popcorn?

remy bean, Thursday, 26 May 2011 14:58 (twelve years ago) link

ask to have your desk moved?

got electrolytes (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 26 May 2011 15:08 (twelve years ago) link

(which is a good subtle way to bring up the issue with mgmt)

got electrolytes (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 26 May 2011 15:15 (twelve years ago) link

Where are the packages of unpopped popcorn kept? You could use a razor blade to carefully slice them open and insert thin pieces of sheet metal into the bags, causing a microwave fire when she next pops. Popcorn would be linked to dangerous fires and soon banned.

fields of salmon, Thursday, 26 May 2011 15:19 (twelve years ago) link

... or unexplained ulcers.

got electrolytes (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 26 May 2011 15:21 (twelve years ago) link

have you tried pooping in the microwave

Tom Skerritt Mustache Ride (DJP), Thursday, 26 May 2011 15:24 (twelve years ago) link

or pooping in a waxed paper bag, flattening it, stapling both ends, sealing it in plastic, and putting it in a box marked Orville Redenbacher?

remy bean, Thursday, 26 May 2011 15:25 (twelve years ago) link

lol

'what are you, the Hymen Protection League of America?' (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 26 May 2011 15:27 (twelve years ago) link

why does my coworker keep spraying!

Latham Green, Thursday, 26 May 2011 15:33 (twelve years ago) link

Is she a cat in heat?

Tom Skerritt Mustache Ride (DJP), Thursday, 26 May 2011 15:34 (twelve years ago) link

you're not making popcorn are you?

xpost

got electrolytes (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 26 May 2011 15:34 (twelve years ago) link

drop a deuce on her desk.

The Chicago Choad (thebingo), Thursday, 26 May 2011 15:41 (twelve years ago) link

I tried defecation but this is serious! how can I work when she is sparying her odors everywhere! this is not her "territory"

Latham Green, Thursday, 26 May 2011 16:10 (twelve years ago) link

Just walked into the men's room, co-worker had his foot on the sink to tie his shoe. Yeah, because that's pretty much the only option for shoe-tying. It's also where we get clean, asshole.

shake it, shake it, sugary pee (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 26 May 2011 16:11 (twelve years ago) link

The sink is where the dirt goes.

England's banh mi army (ledge), Thursday, 26 May 2011 16:38 (twelve years ago) link

I don't clean MY asshole at the sink - Oh comma.

Latham Green, Thursday, 26 May 2011 16:54 (twelve years ago) link

My coworker keeps spraying this stuff. At first I couldn't really tell what she was spraying,on what-herself, the air, etc-but I think she must be spraying herself. The spraying seems to increase with warm weather so I guess she might feel self conscious.
Of course, it could be that somebody else smells in the warm weather and she is spraying her air to cover the odor.
Anyway the spray smells bad and is unpleasant.
My coworkers also go crazy with the spray in the bathroom, and also post signs about how many times you might have to flush to get rid of the "waste" etc. You'd think some of them didn't understand the purpose of a toilet.

MrDasher, Thursday, 26 May 2011 16:59 (twelve years ago) link

its to clean their ass in.

The Chicago Choad (thebingo), Thursday, 26 May 2011 17:12 (twelve years ago) link

i once saw a hobo cleaning his ringer in the bathroom of south station.

The Chicago Choad (thebingo), Thursday, 26 May 2011 17:18 (twelve years ago) link

multiLOLs

shake it, shake it, sugary pee (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 26 May 2011 17:20 (twelve years ago) link

thinking of where dirtytowns of the body are - shouldn't the shower water come from the floor and spray up?

Latham Green, Thursday, 26 May 2011 17:47 (twelve years ago) link

nah you use your arm and create a chattahootchie canal effect.

The Chicago Choad (thebingo), Thursday, 26 May 2011 17:54 (twelve years ago) link

sometimes I have the water run down my extended arm so its like a stream of energy that I can use to blast pieces of soap that fell etc. - Its really fulfilling

Latham Green, Thursday, 26 May 2011 17:58 (twelve years ago) link

Reading through this thread I am amazed to find out that some workplaces have banned fish from the microwaves. Is this common? Because I'm sick of sitting six feet away from the wafting smells of people's shitty food?

I might have to be really passive aggressive and bring this idea up with HR.

James Mitchell, Thursday, 26 May 2011 19:11 (twelve years ago) link

and spraying!! and inthe case of some of my cowoerkers, farting

Latham Green, Thursday, 26 May 2011 19:19 (twelve years ago) link

Getting pretty pissed off at coworker who responds to questions like "is there a way to do (function x which I am familiar with in our old software package) in our new software package" with "yes" and then doesn't tell you the answer

and if you ask "what is it", she always replies very suspiciously "what are you trying to do", even if it's a perfectly quick, simple and reasonable thing

also came to start at my screen and told me to do (side task y), so I started to and she said "no no no, not like that", and then I asked how to do it and she didn't even know and told me to google it, so I said "well, this way works, it'll be quicker than googling, I'll google for a better way later", and she went off in a huff to google it herself, only to tell me 10 minutes after I'd already done it that I should do exactly what I'd been doing all along - I tried to say "yes, that's what I did" in as non-aggrieved a tone as possible, to which I received no response

(though she didn't answer my original question, and I have since looked in two books which didn't tell me either, so now I don't know if she's wrong again and it doesn't even exist or if she really does know something useful she doesn't feel like telling me)

russ conway's game of life (a passing spacecadet), Thursday, 26 May 2011 19:43 (twelve years ago) link

i would just anticipate the usual follow-up question i guess. as in:
"is there a way to do X in bla bla bla?
"if yes, what is it?
thanks"

got electrolytes (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 26 May 2011 19:52 (twelve years ago) link

just push her ass out a window - what a hag

Latham Green, Thursday, 26 May 2011 19:53 (twelve years ago) link

plan B could also work.

got electrolytes (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 26 May 2011 19:57 (twelve years ago) link

I think I'll opt for trying not to ask her anything again* plus hoping that the others in the office were also thinking "what a jerk" as hard as I was during the seconds of silence in which she remained completely straight-faced after her unhelpful yes/no answer

(* even though she's the one in the office who has definite ideas about how things should be done, so if you don't do things her way you risk a later sneering session or rant about how nobody listens to her and she's only trying to do things properly unlike everyone else in this place, etc - but at least I know everyone else also finds these petty and ridiculous, so I guess bring them on and I'll practise my eye-rolling. this person is not my supervisor, or anyone else's, after all)

russ conway's game of life (a passing spacecadet), Thursday, 26 May 2011 20:23 (twelve years ago) link

what a BITCH!!!!!!

Latham Green, Thursday, 26 May 2011 20:24 (twelve years ago) link

Christ, that sounds fucking annoying.

shake it, shake it, sugary pee (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 26 May 2011 20:35 (twelve years ago) link

generally speaking these squeaky wheels usually wind up suffering at their own hands because they gain notoriety for the wrong reasons. Obv I don't know your work situation but people at my company have been canned simply for being Terrell Owens of the office world.

she rub A LINK in your poke (Neanderthal), Thursday, 26 May 2011 21:59 (twelve years ago) link

jvc, leave a passive aggressive note.

Latham, what is your co-worker spraying?? Do you work with a tom cat?

Jesse, Friday, 27 May 2011 00:34 (twelve years ago) link

There is a guy who nits next to me, who I like, but whenever he puts on his headphones he begins BREATHING IN and BREATHING OUT extremely LOUDLY. BIG SUCKS of breath in, and LONG, DRAMATIC WHISTLING BREATHS OUT through thin, tightened lips, as if he's looking through a set of particularly upsetting tax returns. As soon as he takes his headphones off he stops doing this.

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Friday, 27 May 2011 10:14 (twelve years ago) link

maybe he is listening to meditation tapes?

▽_▽ (c sharp major), Friday, 27 May 2011 10:28 (twelve years ago) link

Haha I have now told him about it. He laughed guiltily and promised to stop.

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Friday, 27 May 2011 10:40 (twelve years ago) link

breathing?!

got electrolytes (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 27 May 2011 13:31 (twelve years ago) link

oh shit

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Friday, 27 May 2011 14:01 (twelve years ago) link

well.. maybe i can ebay him

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Friday, 27 May 2011 14:02 (twelve years ago) link

spraying some kind of - odor-be-gone - she must be one foul demon to need so much odor-gone.
I think worldwide office productivity would soar if everyone got their own office

Latham Green, Friday, 27 May 2011 15:52 (twelve years ago) link

you spelled "sour" wrong.

got electrolytes (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 27 May 2011 16:08 (twelve years ago) link

everyone work from home - with no clothes on except boots

Latham Green, Friday, 27 May 2011 16:13 (twelve years ago) link

Had a video meeting today, and the person who scheduled it emailed a wrong number and passcode, which didn't get corrected until 5 minutes in, and no correction email was sent...it was only provided in the virtual meeting room.

If that's not annoying enough, because of the poor communication, about 7 people send emails asking about it, of course replying to all.

The lady who scheduled the meeting only needed to send one email to Reply All to give them the correct info, right?

Nope...she replies to EVERY SINGLE email she got with Reply All, to where 20 emails hit my box in a 20 minute timespan.

Once it was clear she wasn't getting it, I had to email her to beg her to just reply to the sender or just reply ONCE to all...Christ.

lolford brimley (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 1 June 2011 18:41 (twelve years ago) link

hah - but its far better when someone replies to all something like "yeah I'll be at the meeting, I hope that bitch from marketing isnt there!"

Latham Green, Wednesday, 1 June 2011 18:43 (twelve years ago) link

observation. people with email signatures about creativity and inspiration and such are NEVER helpful when you need anything, least of all a creative idea

daria, Wednesday, 1 June 2011 20:39 (twelve years ago) link

email signatures are the worst, especially when they carry teabag sentiments

remy bean, Wednesday, 1 June 2011 20:43 (twelve years ago) link

Observation. People using email sigs of any kind beyond their name and contact details are disgusting savages.

chavatar (suzy), Wednesday, 1 June 2011 20:44 (twelve years ago) link

My firm's email signature is 166 words (1080 characters) not including our names, titles, addresses, or phone numbers. It's all language about confidentiality and a mandatory U.S. Dept. of Treasury warning saying that any tax advice the firm provides may not be used to avoid tax penalties, etc.

Jesse, Wednesday, 1 June 2011 20:55 (twelve years ago) link

Still better than any inspirational quote of any length.

Jesse, Wednesday, 1 June 2011 20:56 (twelve years ago) link

I have Hunter S Thompson's "What? No. We can't stop here. This is bat country" as my email sig at work and I am NOT a disgusting savage. I'll cop to that on almost anything, but not this. I put it there the day he died, and there it shall stay.

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 1 June 2011 21:30 (twelve years ago) link

(and my contact info, not just the quote)

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 1 June 2011 21:31 (twelve years ago) link

If I use a quote it's "Life is like a banana. It's yellow and it slides?"

lolford brimley (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 1 June 2011 22:10 (twelve years ago) link

The only sig files I'm fed up with are half-a-page long ones full of HTML and JPGs of various company logos, orgs/associations theyre members of etc. My real estate agent sent me a 3-line email yeszterday and it had about 20 lines of Agent banners, REIV institue logos and etc splattered everywhere in very untidy manner.

Our work sigfiles are similarly hideous, our awful magenta-pink and blue company logo in a big JPG across the bottom. Except because its an embedded HTML half the time it doesnt work, either because many people use gmail/Yahoo etc webmail, or they straight up have email security (rightly) turned on which disables stuff like embedded html. Ive tried pointing this out to the boss before but nooo.

The man who mistook his life for a FAP (Trayce), Thursday, 2 June 2011 00:09 (twelve years ago) link

People using email sigs of any kind beyond their name and contact details are disgusting savages.

In the UK, if your business is a private limited company (Ltd) or public limited company (PLC) or a Limited Liability Partnership (LLP), the Companies Act 1985 requires that your letterhead, order forms and all business emails include the following details in legible characters:

Your company name
Your company registration number
Your place of registration (e.g. Scotland or England & Wales)
Your registered office address – This may be different to the office that you trade from

Mark C, Thursday, 2 June 2011 14:13 (twelve years ago) link

Those *are* contact details, fussbudget.

chavatar (suzy), Thursday, 2 June 2011 17:49 (twelve years ago) link

i can't stand it when people put environmental reminders after their email signatures - things like, "consider the environment before printing this email - every 3,000 pages saves us a tree!"

and you are a part of everything and everything is like melting (ytth), Friday, 3 June 2011 05:41 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah like, who prints emails anyway!?

The man who mistook his life for a FAP (Trayce), Friday, 3 June 2011 06:10 (twelve years ago) link

:'( most people at my work print every single email "for the file."

Jesse, Friday, 3 June 2011 13:30 (twelve years ago) link

If they're away, they fwd it from their BlackBerries and ask me to print it.

Jesse, Friday, 3 June 2011 13:31 (twelve years ago) link

what kind of idiot walks around an office barefoot. this kid has got balls.

Bert Macklin, F.B.I. (thebingo), Friday, 3 June 2011 13:32 (twelve years ago) link

Re: the email about not printing emails, someone in my company emailed a client of ours with that signature once...

The client being a paper company, who was very upset by it.

lolford brimley (Neanderthal), Friday, 3 June 2011 13:45 (twelve years ago) link

printers upset me

Latham Green, Friday, 3 June 2011 13:49 (twelve years ago) link

I hate when co-workers and members of the same organization can't handle basic communication. I've been handed two deadlines for Monday, only one of which can realistically be completed in that amount of time. Now both of them are refusing to budge because they both have "important weekend plans". Meaning, I have to give up my own weekend plans to be here to get both deadlines done. Ridiculous.

the fey bloggers are onto the zagat tweets (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 3 June 2011 14:22 (twelve years ago) link

make some plans

Latham Green, Friday, 3 June 2011 14:58 (twelve years ago) link

popcorn festival?

Bert Macklin, F.B.I. (thebingo), Friday, 3 June 2011 15:25 (twelve years ago) link

swallow a bag of pop corn and then go get i n the hot tub and feel it pop

Latham Green, Friday, 3 June 2011 15:26 (twelve years ago) link

playing around with your phone instead of working while everyone else pulls their weight. Its kind of obvious how littel you do at a workplace when your screensaver is always on

Latham Green, Friday, 3 June 2011 15:55 (twelve years ago) link

one of my directors treats me like a complete pee-on...im about two seconds away from letting her have it. this woman makes assumptions constantly about my job performance and things that she doesn't think i did, when in turn i've actually done them.

Bert Macklin, F.B.I. (thebingo), Friday, 3 June 2011 16:21 (twelve years ago) link

Did you look up peon in the dictionary?

England's banh mi army (ledge), Friday, 3 June 2011 16:22 (twelve years ago) link

I know what's like to be a urinal.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6f9TyXNs6w

Latham Green, Friday, 3 June 2011 16:25 (twelve years ago) link

do you think i give a shit how to spell it.

Bert Macklin, F.B.I. (thebingo), Friday, 3 June 2011 16:27 (twelve years ago) link

I sincerely apologise for my cruel and weak zing attempt.

England's banh mi army (ledge), Friday, 3 June 2011 16:29 (twelve years ago) link

its ok, im pissed and grumpy.

Bert Macklin, F.B.I. (thebingo), Friday, 3 June 2011 16:32 (twelve years ago) link

INSANE!

Latham Green, Friday, 3 June 2011 16:35 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah like, who prints emails anyway!?

a) we totally print heaps of emails (but a tiny fraction overall) with details of contract variations and suchlike for people to be able to reference, even if they weren't on the email / don't work here until 2013

b) there are totally managers in approx 1 zillion orgs worldwide who still don't handle email but have their assistants print them out twice a day

all cats are gay (sic), Friday, 3 June 2011 17:42 (twelve years ago) link

I am trying to really not use paper at all if I can help it.
its hard though becuase I like to diddle and write notes

Latham Green, Friday, 3 June 2011 18:01 (twelve years ago) link

by diddle you mean doodle, right?

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 3 June 2011 18:06 (twelve years ago) link

spell it how you like

Latham Green, Friday, 3 June 2011 18:11 (twelve years ago) link

ok - after googleing I guess I do not diddle.
sorry for the gender-ambiguousness there
Still, with stem cells these days you never know - I hear their growing cocks on all kinds of people

Latham Green, Friday, 3 June 2011 18:33 (twelve years ago) link

This is more of a general bitch about "stupid, annoying" societal issues, but a bitch must be pitched anyway. I suppose I should look on this a bit differently considering I'm soon to become a parent myself, but I'm continually baffled by the blatant hypocrisy afforded parents. Today we were having a meeting about an interview our firm is taking part in Monday and divvying up the workload for this afternoon. One of the firm's partners flat-out said, "well since (X)and (Y) have kids, we'll just make (Z) come in over the weekend to make up the difference". No joking, not irony, nothing - completley serious. I know this is fairly standard out there, but the idea that just because someone has procreated their home lives and commitments have more value than anyone else is such bullshit.

I know this will probably never change and I should look forward to being able to use that excuse myself, but its still such a ridiculous attitude.

the fey bloggers are onto the zagat tweets (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 3 June 2011 19:20 (twelve years ago) link

and people who go on "extended potty breaks"

Latham Green, Friday, 3 June 2011 19:50 (twelve years ago) link

i think at my place of work if you have kids, you are afforded less luxury.

Bert Macklin, F.B.I. (thebingo), Friday, 3 June 2011 19:52 (twelve years ago) link

I always think if you have kids you should get more sick days cause you have to stay home when they get sick but I can imagine if I mentioned this ever the people with no kids would throw things at me and yell

Latham Green, Friday, 3 June 2011 19:53 (twelve years ago) link

although having a kid makes a great excuse for bagging in to work...."oh my kid has the shits, I wont be in today." works, everytime.

Bert Macklin, F.B.I. (thebingo), Friday, 3 June 2011 19:54 (twelve years ago) link

Well I certainly think there should be the flexibility to deal with those kind of sick kid issues. There definitely is a difference in that regards. My issue is more when there is extra work to be done and it is always delegated to the employees without kids because its imagined that their personal lives can't possibly be important.

the fey bloggers are onto the zagat tweets (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 3 June 2011 19:54 (twelve years ago) link

why dont you just offer to watch their kids while they work

Latham Green, Friday, 3 June 2011 19:57 (twelve years ago) link

yeah thats kind of shit.

Bert Macklin, F.B.I. (thebingo), Friday, 3 June 2011 19:57 (twelve years ago) link

this is part of why I sing tbh

low-rent black gangster nicknamed Bootsy (DJP), Friday, 3 June 2011 19:57 (twelve years ago) link

Skee Dappa Dee Dappa Dee.

Bert Macklin, F.B.I. (thebingo), Friday, 3 June 2011 19:58 (twelve years ago) link

worse perhaps when I worked somewhere where the boss would bring in her kids who would run around causeing havok AT work when school was closed

Latham Green, Friday, 3 June 2011 19:59 (twelve years ago) link

When I worked in home health, we had a rule against bringing kids to a client's house. Some people did anyway. (Mostly because about 90% of them were single moms.)

Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Friday, 3 June 2011 23:01 (twelve years ago) link

Jon, I know exactly what you mean. Years ago, when I was working at another company, a coworker and I were asked to give up a couple of weekends to serve as production assistants on out-of-town video shoots. Beyond the fact that this was completely outside my job description -- I was hired as a fact-checker/proofreader -- I was really bothered by the fact that the assignment fell to, oh look, the two young single guys in the department. So I pretty much just refused to do it. My performance review that year took a hit, but that was the only real consequence.

jaymc, Friday, 3 June 2011 23:30 (twelve years ago) link

:'( most people at my work print every single email "for the file."

This makes my eyelid twitch. THE EMAIL IS THE DARN FILE. It reminds me of working for a govt department, everything was so freaking old fashioned and arcane and NO ONE knew how to do aything outside their little, set-in-concrete ways. We had ONE windows pc for typing up word docs on (the main work I did was doe on old COBOL mainframes - and this was in the mid 90s).

Oh and also when I had my first ISP job? When we created a new user account, we'd also print out the page with the confirmation user/pass and put it in a pile. WHY? In the end, someone stole half the pile and started using the logins for free internet, til he got caught and fired. We stopped doing it after that heh.

The man who mistook his life for a FAP (Trayce), Friday, 3 June 2011 23:35 (twelve years ago) link

I did some consulting for a PR with really good flexible working and maternity policy in place, but the experience was ruined by a newly-returned mommy going all My Child whenever anyone demanded anything of her, or disagreed with her. But for the most part (especially here), women who have children get hosed by HR and micromanaged out by their bosses - who, on many occasions, are also women.

chavatar (suzy), Friday, 3 June 2011 23:40 (twelve years ago) link

Trayce, the weird part is that we never purge our emails. My emails go back to 2005, and include those of two of my predecessors. My bosses emails go back even longer.

It's not even like they limit their prints to shit of substance! E.g.:

Partner sends email: Hey Associate, can you tell me what time your meeting w/ Client is?

Associate prints that email.

Associate replies: It's at 1:00.

Partner prints that email.

Partner replies: Thanks.

Associate prints that email.

Ad vitam aeternam.

Jesse, Saturday, 4 June 2011 00:29 (twelve years ago) link

This makes my eyelid twitch. THE EMAIL IS THE DARN FILE.

As I said, it's for the reference of people who won't start working here for another three years and won't have received the email.

all cats are gay (sic), Saturday, 4 June 2011 01:30 (twelve years ago) link

That's what migrating (? that's what our IT consultant calls it) previous users' emails to new users' accounts is good for!

Jesse, Saturday, 4 June 2011 01:38 (twelve years ago) link

Exactly. And why Outlook etc is centralised on a server. Or bloody should be in an office.

The man who mistook his life for a FAP (Trayce), Saturday, 4 June 2011 01:42 (twelve years ago) link

Or on the web like gmail::groupwise blows btw

Latham Green, Saturday, 4 June 2011 02:13 (twelve years ago) link

That's what migrating (? that's what our IT consultant calls it) previous users' emails to new users' accounts is good for!

what about when a temp from the online catch-up service is confirming the rights variations on a certain program? they should have 100 other employees entire email histories migrated to their account just so they can search for any single instance that any of those 100 ppl have discussed ANYTHING about the program -- instead of walking to a cabinet, taking out the file with the contracts and revisions in it, and seeing that someone has helpfully filed the one actual useful email out of hundreds and hundreds and hundreds about this specific issue relating to the program?

Exactly. And why Outlook etc is centralised on a server. Or bloody should be in an office.

our email is on servers, not local machines, if that's what you mean? but presumably on a bunch of them given the dozens and dozens of different offices around the continent. (and anything over six months old gets archived and you have to search a vault in Outlook for it.)

all cats are gay (sic), Saturday, 4 June 2011 03:12 (twelve years ago) link

OK printing out very specific emails that discuss contract terms and replied agreements is a diff thing - I can see having copies of that makng sense. Printing every single thing seems overkill.

The man who mistook his life for a FAP (Trayce), Saturday, 4 June 2011 03:49 (twelve years ago) link

It's not even like they limit their prints to shit of substance! E.g.:

Ha ha, that reminds me of my first job out of high school, as an office assistant. I was told to keep a file of all fax machine transmissions; when my boss saw me throw away a little slip of paper that just had the date and time (because the old-ass thermal-printer fax machine would spit these out every day for some reason), he demanded that I keep a file of those, too. So there was this manila folder with about 200 little half-slips of thermal fax paper and maybe four actual full-page transmissions.

shake it, shake it, sugary pee (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 4 June 2011 04:39 (twelve years ago) link

get ready for a lengthy rant!!!!!!

i went on vacation for 2 weeks - unpaid vacation, since i get no paid time off at my job - and since i'm the only person who does my job, i had to train a staff member to take over for the time i was gone. i spent 2 full days doing this, and i also left extremely detailed, written instructions for everything she needed to do, including v specific itinerary for each day she was working.

she managed to do everything either completely wrong or not at all, and also managed to 'lose' a bunch of things AND create a ridiculous amount of extra work for me - more than if no one had been there to do my job. and not just extra work, but a ton of extra stress, since she fucked up so much stuff that has long-term consequences.

AND she used my hair brush and left it FULL of her gross hair. ugh.

I AM SO MAD

just1n3, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 17:41 (twelve years ago) link

the thing that really gets me is that the money she was paid to 'work' could've been paid to me as vacation time instead.

just1n3, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 17:42 (twelve years ago) link

the litigation industry thrives on having all of these emails printed and filed. what one person thinks is of no substance could be the needle in the haystack an opposing counsel is looking for. you never know. it's always better to cover your ass on this stuff. anyway, you're not going to send entire outlook mailboxes to opposing counsel when they request docs for discovery. you have to have the hard files so that all relevant documents can be coded, numbered, etc, in sequence.
xpost

tehresa, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 17:49 (twelve years ago) link

so shitbreath lady has taken to calling me "guru". "this is chris he is the guru when it comes to..." really annoying

Bert Macklin, F.B.I. (thebingo), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 19:53 (twelve years ago) link

Maybe you can be her fresh breath guru.

the fey bloggers are onto the zagat tweets (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 19:59 (twelve years ago) link

sorry just1n3 - can you get revenge somehow?

Latham Green, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 20:02 (twelve years ago) link

Wow Just1n3, did your boss have no oversight of this person whatsoever? She didn't check up on her?

ljubljana, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 21:07 (twelve years ago) link

the litigation industry thrives on having all of these emails printed and filed. what one person thinks is of no substance could be the needle in the haystack an opposing counsel is looking for. you never know. it's always better to cover your ass on this stuff. anyway, you're not going to send entire outlook mailboxes to opposing counsel when they request docs for discovery. you have to have the hard files so that all relevant documents can be coded, numbered, etc, in sequence.
xpost

Aren't most firm emails are privileged as work product or attorney-client communications (except say communications with our witness or an ex parte communication)? What makes it ridiculous that our firm prints so much crap is that we log, flag, and duplicate emails with experts, and when it comes time to produce them, we print them off fresh and never even look at the paper file. (And of course we try to avoid those emails in the first place.)

Jesse, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 23:47 (twelve years ago) link

xp oh yes... when i came back in yesterday my boss ranted about how terrible she was and how she did nothing and thank god i was back... but she never said anything to the person in question.

just1n3, Thursday, 9 June 2011 00:59 (twelve years ago) link

I'm just reeling that you're not paid for leave. Are you a casual?

nope i'm full time and have worked there for 2.5 yrs. BUT in the US small businesses don't have to offer any paid time off. i don't get sick days, i don't get paid for statutory holidays... nothing.

just1n3, Thursday, 9 June 2011 01:57 (twelve years ago) link

on the plus side: my boss pays 3/4 of my health insurance

just1n3, Thursday, 9 June 2011 01:57 (twelve years ago) link

In this country, if you're not actively trying to fuck your workforce out of their last dollar and shred of self-respect, you're some kinda pinko.

xxp

WmC, Thursday, 9 June 2011 02:01 (twelve years ago) link

which reminds me: my husband is getting dicked out of a stat holiday he is supposed to get paid for, because we were on vacation. AND they are penalizing him for 'taking too much time off at once' by charging him an extra benefit day.

this is the same company that forces its salaried workers to come in on weekends to do the jobs of hourly-paid workers when things get busy.

just1n3, Thursday, 9 June 2011 02:19 (twelve years ago) link

fyi this is ALSO the same company that reported substantial growth in profits even at the peak of the recession.

just1n3, Thursday, 9 June 2011 02:20 (twelve years ago) link

nope i'm full time and have worked there for 2.5 yrs. BUT in the US small businesses don't have to offer any paid time off. i don't get sick days, i don't get paid for statutory holidays... nothing.

I used to work for a company like that, except we got holidays paid (after much arguing between our supervisor and his boss). Instead of paid sick days, we each got a bottle of Purell. Seriously.

shake it, shake it, sugary pee (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 9 June 2011 02:21 (twelve years ago) link

So there was this special meeting that several highers up and many of us mid-level employees were invited to. it was an honor to be invited, and it was for the sheer purpose of determining how to improve areas that are lacking.

throughout the opening of the presentation, they say they want nobody to sit idly by observing, they want full participation. which makes sense -- otherwise you should have rejected the invite.

And everybody does...EXCEPT this one guy. Just sits in complete silence for all 9.5 hours. Never opens his mouth once, looks disinterested. And he took a spot someone else who gave a fuck could have used.

(don't get me wrong tho meeting was still quite awesome).

my downeaster ilxor (Neanderthal), Thursday, 9 June 2011 02:23 (twelve years ago) link

9.5 hours?! Did you get on the cover of Meetings magazine?

kinder, Thursday, 9 June 2011 02:31 (twelve years ago) link

I used to work for a company like that, except we got holidays paid (after much arguing between our supervisor and his boss). Instead of paid sick days, we each got a bottle of Purell. Seriously.

One of the reasons why I left the company I was working for was that they no longer paid CNAs time and a half for working on holidays.

Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Thursday, 9 June 2011 02:32 (twelve years ago) link

So a coworker won an iPad at some event last night and you'd think he'd won the lottery judging by reactions around here today.

the fey bloggers are onto the zagat tweets (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 10 June 2011 13:39 (twelve years ago) link

You should ask them to lend you $100

NickB, Friday, 10 June 2011 13:41 (twelve years ago) link

So there was this special meeting that several highers up and many of us mid-level employees were invited to. it was an honor to be invited

struggling to get my head round this concept tbh

ledge, Friday, 10 June 2011 13:48 (twelve years ago) link

ugh surprise 60th birthday party for colleague ugh some but not everyone invited ugh trench warfare between the partitions

♪♫ hey there lamp post, feelin' whiney ♪♫ (darraghmac), Friday, 10 June 2011 13:50 (twelve years ago) link

in the US small businesses don't have to offer any paid time off

!!!!

I did not know that.

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Friday, 10 June 2011 13:53 (twelve years ago) link

yeah, i was pretty shocked when i moved here - NZ has 4 weeks compulsory annual leave across the board plus stat hols plus time and a half/double time if you work a stat hol.

just1n3, Friday, 10 June 2011 14:11 (twelve years ago) link

as long as your boss doesnt play butt bongo on you you still have your dignity

Latham Green, Friday, 10 June 2011 14:13 (twelve years ago) link

butt bongo is mandatory in all major US corporations.

magic punani (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 10 June 2011 14:18 (twelve years ago) link

"you have the choice between giving up your sick days or...."

"oh god"

"yes. butt bongo."

*sighs* "ok..... butt bongo."

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Friday, 10 June 2011 14:27 (twelve years ago) link

It is particularly bad when it is done while you are de-trouser-ed and the entire office has to watch

Latham Green, Friday, 10 June 2011 14:28 (twelve years ago) link

"Hey, he's getting a pretty good sound out of that guy!"

shake it, shake it, sugary pee (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 10 June 2011 14:32 (twelve years ago) link

I think I have to introduce "Butt Bongo" into a conversation with our HR manager today.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Friday, 10 June 2011 14:42 (twelve years ago) link

dont forget "butt trumpet"

Latham Green, Friday, 10 June 2011 14:43 (twelve years ago) link

I'm going to say that HR is probably not where you want to start introducing that term. On the other hand, talking about "butt bongo" too much may make you end up in the HR office, so I suppose its smart to get right to the endgame.

the fey bloggers are onto the zagat tweets (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 10 June 2011 14:44 (twelve years ago) link

Our HR manager is probably the person in our organisation most likely to introduce Butt Bongo as a mandatory company activity.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Friday, 10 June 2011 14:45 (twelve years ago) link

to the tune of Um Bongo?

chavatar (suzy), Friday, 10 June 2011 14:51 (twelve years ago) link

I work in the database maintenance team for a library, and my coworker summoned me to look at some problematic records. When the titles came up he announced non-ironically "oh, what a lot of nonsense, they're all in French."

His screen was full of longwinded scientific titles with lots of umlauts and Ks and Ws and "von" and "die" and "über" and 20-letter words ending in "-ischen" etc, i.e. very obviously in German.

Which would be no big deal, except circa 2008 he spent over a year living and working in Germany. I don't expect you to come back fluent, but surely most people would recognise the language after a year of being surrounded by it?

sambal dalek (a passing spacecadet), Friday, 10 June 2011 16:08 (twelve years ago) link

hahahahahaha

low-rent black gangster nicknamed Bootsy (DJP), Friday, 10 June 2011 16:09 (twelve years ago) link

this thread had a lot of "annoying" and not enough "stupid" but that story just rebalanced everything and then some

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Friday, 10 June 2011 16:11 (twelve years ago) link

our database tables are in flemmish - wtf
I do like seeing the word GEEN - mean s NO
sometimes I think to myself - GEEEEEN!

Latham Green, Friday, 10 June 2011 16:20 (twelve years ago) link

xp I don't know if they spoke German or English at the company he was with (it's not an English/American company) but I like to imagine everyone talking German at him for a year while he just stood there smiling and saying "what." in his completely non-question-intonated way

(this is often his response even to instructions in English)

sambal dalek (a passing spacecadet), Friday, 10 June 2011 16:30 (twelve years ago) link

"It's odd, most people in Germany speak French..."

my downeaster ilxor (Neanderthal), Friday, 10 June 2011 16:36 (twelve years ago) link

most people in lungs speak flemmish

coffeetripperspillerslyricmakeruppers (Latham Green), Friday, 10 June 2011 17:13 (twelve years ago) link

I did not know that other countries MANDATED vacation time! I just thought that they had a different work culture. FOUR WEEKS!!!! That is truly insane. Here the norm is that for an average, generic office job, you would have to work for many years before you got four weeks (my opinion based on what I've seen, YMMV).

At my work, this is the vacation policy:

YEARS EMPLOYED AS OF JANUARY 1st

Less than 1 year: 1 Week (40 hours)

1 full year but less than 3 full years of employment: 2 Weeks (80 hours)

3 full years but less than 5 full years of employment: 2.5 Weeks (100 hours)

5 full years but less than 7 full years of employment: 3 weeks (120 hours)

7 years or more: 4 Weeks (120 hours)

- Vacation hours do not roll over from year to year
- It is accrued throughout the year. If you get 40 hours, and you use it all in January and you quit in February 1, you owe the firm for 36.92 hours worth of the vacation time that they advanced you.

Jesse, Friday, 10 June 2011 18:07 (twelve years ago) link

i had to put in 10 years at my old job for four weeks and then they bent me over once i hit my ten year and told me they changed the policy! fuck off bank

$5.00 Footlongs (thebingo), Friday, 10 June 2011 18:10 (twelve years ago) link

I get 25 days a year of vacation/holidays/sick days - its nice beacuse you can work on a holiday then take off time when you'd rather

coffeetripperspillerslyricmakeruppers (Latham Green), Friday, 10 June 2011 18:11 (twelve years ago) link

my wife has something like 7 weeks.

$5.00 Footlongs (thebingo), Friday, 10 June 2011 18:13 (twelve years ago) link

That work ethic is why America is Number -- hey, wait a minute...

Monsieur Naturel (WmC), Friday, 10 June 2011 18:14 (twelve years ago) link

I take three days per year as "passion holiday" when I wear purple and sweat heavy and take erotic bath

coffeetripperspillerslyricmakeruppers (Latham Green), Friday, 10 June 2011 18:16 (twelve years ago) link

Current job: 2 weeks, accrual basis, rolls over; 2 personal days, 2 weeks sick time. New job: replace all 2s with a 3! Stoked :D

tehresa, Friday, 10 June 2011 18:19 (twelve years ago) link

HAHA mike.

$5.00 Footlongs (thebingo), Friday, 10 June 2011 18:24 (twelve years ago) link

it took me 10 years of working in this industry before i was able to claw my way up to 3 weeks.
my last job, when they laid me off, subtracted the vacation time they advanced me from the severance package.
i work in Canada but blame the US for our lack of vacationing.

magic punani (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 10 June 2011 20:40 (twelve years ago) link

last time I checked I had accrued 6.5 weeks of vacation

low-rent black gangster nicknamed Bootsy (DJP), Friday, 10 June 2011 20:42 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah aus is p much same as nz - 4 weeks a year, 5 sick/personal days, and various state& national public hols, Xmas etc. Of course these days a lot of ppl get worked so hard they don't get to TAKE said leave, and in fact some workplace pollie was in the paper recently urging ppl to go the fuck on leave more often.

We've even a tv show here called " no leave no life"

Our sick time used to carry over until we were acquired.

I kinda like that it doesn't anymore cuz now it urges us to use all our vacation in a given year and the managers can't say "your time's just gonna roll over, why d'ya hafta go on vacation NOW?"

my downeaster ilxor (Neanderthal), Friday, 10 June 2011 23:03 (twelve years ago) link

last time I checked I had accrued 6.5 weeks of vacation

I checked last Friday and I have 14.25 weeks of paid holiday and 11.75 days of time in lieu for working crazy overtime back in Dec/Jan

all cats are gay (sic), Friday, 10 June 2011 23:34 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah you get worked like a dawg, man :(

“this dog won’t hunt” doesn’t appear in the Book of Proverbs (Trayce), Saturday, 11 June 2011 00:19 (twelve years ago) link

We were meant to get an extra person for the last three months to ease some pressure / use up EOFY budget, but me and supervisor pointed out that we would get even further behind by taking a week to train somebody

discovered this week that my manager didn't even know that I've been doing all the higher duties that someone else has been getting paid HDA for for the last two months

all cats are gay (sic), Saturday, 11 June 2011 00:31 (twelve years ago) link

D: Theyre gonna rectify that, right?

“this dog won’t hunt” doesn’t appear in the Book of Proverbs (Trayce), Saturday, 11 June 2011 00:40 (twelve years ago) link

so this person is neither stupid or annoying.
i guess her behavior is annoying - but she basically does no work. shows up late. isn't "ready" to take on a project (there's a pool of jobs/tasks we all pick up) for at least 30-45 minutes while she cruises facebook and her blogging site. or shops online. like she'd spend DAYS looking for a new pair of shades instead of taking on work or helping out when it was obvious some people were swamped. she's always out the door at 5 whenever possible and when she does get burdened with something that would prevent her 5 o'clock dash, she would (i think intentionally) do hurried, shitty work. sometimes sticking whoever was around to deal with her mess (me often). she vanishes often for hours at a time. mid morning or afternoon. she'd come in from an extended lunch and when someone came to her with something would announce she'd take care of it when she got back from getting a coffee (another 30 minutes).

and everyone there loves her. she's attractive and crazy popular and no one seems to question her work ethic.

it's been affecting my own work ethic, in addition to my job getting more stressful from other factors. i had been thinking i'd made a mistake accepting this position and today i found out she's leaving.

SHE IS LEAVING!

fucking sweet. i have the additional satisfaction of knowing that where she's going is small and she's going to HAVE to do alot of work! :D

magic punani (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 11 June 2011 00:47 (twelve years ago) link

xpost - and what is "HDA"?

magic punani (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 11 June 2011 00:48 (twelve years ago) link

and can i eat it.

magic punani (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 11 June 2011 00:48 (twelve years ago) link

higher duties allowance (i think?) - govt roles often get covered by someone else if someone goes on leave etc and instead of being promoted you just work at the higher payrate til its properly filled. At DFAT they used to call it "acting up" which always amused me.

“this dog won’t hunt” doesn’t appear in the Book of Proverbs (Trayce), Saturday, 11 June 2011 01:14 (twelve years ago) link

xps I totally had someone like that at a past job, although we were all part of the same team of lowly admin people so she didn't really have much to do. Actually it was the kind of place where NO WAY could you just walk out in the middle of the day but instead she'd just sidle up to people and start distracting them saying she hadn't been given any work to do (even if it was true, she should have helped someone else on the team). The thing is she was crazy pretty, but totally knew it and wore tons of make-up etc when she didn't need to. The supervisor and every single guy on our team was kind of entranced by her, which I know is a total cliche but I didn't really think actually happened til she started there. She was actually an OK girl but as my o/h put it, "the kind of person who has absolutely nothing to say".
She kind of had a rep as being a funny one-of-the-lads kind of girl (but hot obv) but she never said anything funny, just catchphrases off tv and stuff like 'I'm bored dot com' and you just know if she was average looking everyone would have thought she was lame and annoying. Oh and her phone wallpaper was a pic of her and her chump of a boyfriend in a kind of naked embrace and if we went out for work drinks she'd just leave her phone out on the bar really conspicuously.

kinder, Saturday, 11 June 2011 01:18 (twelve years ago) link

I have that coworker but the schadenfreude
is coming soon

coffeetripperspillerslyricmakeruppers (Latham Green), Saturday, 11 June 2011 01:24 (twelve years ago) link

dys will you be able to get news back on lazyass mcbitchface and find out if she crashes and burns?

I enjoy a good schaden soda way too much.

“this dog won’t hunt” doesn’t appear in the Book of Proverbs (Trayce), Saturday, 11 June 2011 01:27 (twelve years ago) link

i know no one there. it's a double-edge schaden-sword because if she does do well she could be a dept head (if they eventually hire more people to do what she "does" under her).

magic punani (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 11 June 2011 01:33 (twelve years ago) link

but since all my coworkers (girls included) leeeerve her so much, i will know right away if she's looking for new work in 6 months.

magic punani (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 11 June 2011 01:34 (twelve years ago) link

that's right re HDA

and the other person will be doing some of it for the remaining month of our current contracts, but I did get fed up of having to fill all these gaps every week and went ahead and got heaps of it done til variously September / Christmas / EOFY 2012 so...

all cats are gay (sic), Saturday, 11 June 2011 01:44 (twelve years ago) link

You got paid up as well tho right? :/

“this dog won’t hunt” doesn’t appear in the Book of Proverbs (Trayce), Saturday, 11 June 2011 01:48 (twelve years ago) link

I am already getting paid up for other higher duties I am meant to be doing, doubt I will be able to argue to get more for doing all this as well, but maybe it will be useful at performance appraisal next year.

this year's was due in January but hasn't happened yet btw. and I don't have a job plan for the role I'm in...

all cats are gay (sic), Saturday, 11 June 2011 02:04 (twelve years ago) link

I have to vent about crazy control freak girl today

We had a volunteer outing with a small group of coworkers. This one woman had volunteered at the place we were going, and offered to give us some input on what to expect, etc.
Which I anticipated to come in the form of an email, maybe a googlemap link, directions, etc. RONG.
We get a pointless half hour MEETING yesterday where she bragged for a thousand years about the fact that she'd done this all before, gave us long, manic, stupidly detailed instructions about getting into the parking lot which included stuff like 'you'll see a sign on your left, but don't go that way, go to the next road and then go past where you think you have to go and go to the other place that's hard to find, we all went to the first place and it was fine last time but you should go to the other place because that's where they'll want you" and I'm like holy shit CAN I BUY A PROPER FUCKING NOUN. Also WHO WILL EVEN REMEMBER THAT. So there was all of that...and that was pretty much it. My co-worker and I walk out looking at each other like okay so why did we just have that meeting? And I could tell she was going to be kind of a nightmare. She's very friendly and outgoing but she has the crazy eyes, and then with these obvious control-freakish ways, I just knew we were in for it.

We get there today and she leaps into 'action', signing us up for duties that are already taken and then walking around with the clipboard asking repeatedly for the woman in charge who we'd already established WAS NOT THERE and makes a very big show of being organized but in such a frenzied disjointed way that makes you kind of afraid to be near her much at all and you just know that nothing is actually getting done. Basically the human equivalent of someone pedalling very fast in a very high gear on a bicycle. Finally the volunteer in charge kind of takes us in hand and explains everything, and we go off to our assigned tasks, but she says that she'll 'check in' with us to make sure we are okay. EYEROLL.
So for the rest of the 2 hours she'd randomly flit past us in the kitchen and issue these bizarre non sequitur instructions for things we 'might' be asked to do. "Just a heads up, they might need 2 people to work the line so if they ask you, you ask the person if they want the food item, and if they say yes, you serve it to them, and if they say no, you don't give them any." All told in a very intense HI I AM ISSUING INSSTRUCTIONS way that was just fucking bizarre. My co-worker and I look at each other, shrug and keep right on doing what we were doing. Because if they need us on the line, they'll tell us!
The whole time we're there she's walking around very fast telling people meaningless things and just making a big show of being very busy NOT WORKING.
But luckily my co-worker and I had figured that she was crazy from the start so we figured we'd just pay attention to the head cook and the volunteer in charge and go where they told us. Which saved us SO much sanity. Also choosing to team up with my coworker in the kitchen largely away from Little Miss Captain Crazypants was the best move ever. Because we could just eyeroll at each other after she walked away and keep working.
I don't really interact with her in the office at all, I really only knew her to say Hi to. Now that I know more of the total package, I thank christ I don't have to work with her. Holy fuck. O_O

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 11 June 2011 03:29 (twelve years ago) link

I had this co-worker get angry at me once because I forgot to change my away message back from "Lunch" for 3 hours and he said he had questions for me the whole time that he hadn't asked because he really thought I was away at lunch all that time.

...

I sat in the same row as the guy. He saw me. He had to know I wasn't eating for three hours.

...

his hair looked like a chia pet

my downeaster ilxor (Neanderthal), Saturday, 11 June 2011 03:32 (twelve years ago) link

so if they ask you, you ask the person if they want the food item, and if they say yes, you serve it to them, and if they say no, you don't give them any.

LOL did she seriously say this wtf.

“this dog won’t hunt” doesn’t appear in the Book of Proverbs (Trayce), Saturday, 11 June 2011 03:43 (twelve years ago) link

oh man, self-righteous do-gooders are the most disgusting savages imo. they're so busy patting themselves on the back for how awesome they are for being 'down in the trenches' that they either a) never actually do anything b) are the worst worst worst for being selfish and self-centered in every other aspect of their daily lives or c) both of the above.

just1n3, Saturday, 11 June 2011 04:01 (twelve years ago) link

If ever there was a thread to make me glad that legally I cannot work right now...

kinder, Saturday, 11 June 2011 04:31 (twelve years ago) link

Actually there have been a few times I've really had to restrain myself from venting on this thread about ppl at my volunteer job :(

kinder, Saturday, 11 June 2011 04:31 (twelve years ago) link

all-time worst moment was when she had us gather for a fucking photo, in the kitchen, while people around us are working. The idea of taking a photo at all is bad enough (it was requested for our office newsletter so she gets a slight reprieve for that)...but taking it THERE. Like that? Ugh. It was awful.

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 11 June 2011 06:14 (twelve years ago) link

so if they ask you, you ask the person if they want the food item, and if they say yes, you serve it to them, and if they say no, you don't give them any.

LOL did she seriously say this wtf.

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 11 June 2011 06:59 (twelve years ago) link

lol at me and my posting skillz

yes she seriously said that...my coworker and I just stared at each other for a while after that. Like, "whaaaat the fuck is even happening"

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 11 June 2011 07:00 (twelve years ago) link

Dear lord.

“this dog won’t hunt” doesn’t appear in the Book of Proverbs (Trayce), Saturday, 11 June 2011 07:03 (twelve years ago) link

Ive met people like that tho, nosey motherly types who feel the need to spell everything out to everybody as if they are all brain damaged children.

“this dog won’t hunt” doesn’t appear in the Book of Proverbs (Trayce), Saturday, 11 June 2011 07:03 (twelve years ago) link

"we have to be flexible"

yes, you have to be flexible on holiday for the next 6 days and i have to be flexible in the office on a saturday.

also hate the way they assign you new things when you're halfway through the previous one. especially when it's coding so you've a sandbox with lots of half-things in it - often makes it impossible to check in the new thing without undoing the old thing (and then having to redo it later).

koogs, Saturday, 11 June 2011 07:55 (twelve years ago) link

honestly, the whole "be flexible" thing is one of my 'oh, fuck off!' phrases, because they want to say you're not flexible if you express any (valid) concern over a decision that was made, or if you dare to point out that you are unfairly having to sacrifice your own personal time so that someone else won't have to.

my downeaster ilxor (Neanderthal), Saturday, 11 June 2011 13:09 (twelve years ago) link

like I mean there are times where it IS valid, but it seems to always be uttered when someone's getting fucked over.

my downeaster ilxor (Neanderthal), Saturday, 11 June 2011 13:10 (twelve years ago) link

Tbh, I can't wait for her to develop popcorn lung.

the fey bloggers are onto the zagat tweets (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 13 June 2011 15:10 (twelve years ago) link

she never said anything funny, just catchphrases off tv and stuff like 'I'm bored dot com'

the only correct response to that is murder

low-rent black gangster nicknamed Bootsy (DJP), Monday, 13 June 2011 16:00 (twelve years ago) link

and everyone there loves her. she's attractive and crazy popular and no one seems to question her work ethic.

That shit does wonders, evidently. I once worked as a barista, and did everything correctly, on time, didn't slack, cleaned thoroughly, etc. etc. But I wasn't real sociable or outgoing; I kept to myself most of the time. A co-worker worked hella slow, cut major corners on cleaning, sat around and talked while others were working their asses off to close up on time. But he was a really friendly, sociable person and everyone loved him, even those that recognized they were doing his work for him. He even got official commendations from supervisors and co-workers.

Also, he loved John Mayer and hated the Beatles, with the exception of the "Across The Universe" soundtrack.

shake it, shake it, sugary pee (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 13 June 2011 19:24 (twelve years ago) link

he must pay

coffeetripperspillerslyricmakeruppers (Latham Green), Monday, 13 June 2011 19:43 (twelve years ago) link

the only correct response to that is murder

the fey bloggers are onto the zagat tweets (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 13 June 2011 19:44 (twelve years ago) link

Getting pretty pissed off at coworker who responds to questions like "is there a way to do (function x which I am familiar with in our old software package) in our new software package" with "yes" and then doesn't tell you the answer

When I told my bf about this he said it was my fault for phrasing it as a y/n question, like she was not being rude or unhelpful, just entirely unsure what I meant due to my deficient English skills

so today this woman asked someone else "is there a way to" and I was willing them to answer "yes" to see what she did, but sadly they did not

(I have had not enough sleep and am in danger of extreme crankiness)

sambal dalek (a passing spacecadet), Tuesday, 14 June 2011 09:15 (twelve years ago) link

can't say I agree with your b/f. Like yea it's phrased as a yes/no question, but it's a leading yes/no question. Obviously nobody is going to ask a question like that if they don't want the answer shared, and it's pretty much accepted business nomenclature to say it the way you said it (because everyone does it here).

they're lookin' like shits with instruments (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 14 June 2011 10:34 (twelve years ago) link

The respondent might be very literal minded, but man, that is less an excuse than a whole new thing to find obnoxious.

Jesse, Tuesday, 14 June 2011 12:22 (twelve years ago) link

This reminds me of something sort of related. My dad used to get annoyed at what he called "double-barreled questions" such as, "Do you want to drive or should I?" He hated that what could have been a yes/no question required a sentence to answer. And I think he wasn't just being a grouch; he genuinely got thrown off. I can imagine him answering "I'd there a way to do X" with "Yes," now that I think of it.

I credit his being German.

Jesse, Tuesday, 14 June 2011 12:31 (twelve years ago) link

Standard response To double-barreled question began with "Ach!"

Jesse, Tuesday, 14 June 2011 12:32 (twelve years ago) link

or, in fact, "Yes!"

Mark G, Tuesday, 14 June 2011 13:44 (twelve years ago) link

Yes?

Jesse, Tuesday, 14 June 2011 13:56 (twelve years ago) link

was ist los! haben sie die "es tut mir leid!" har har harga!

coffeetripperspillerslyricmakeruppers (Latham Green), Tuesday, 14 June 2011 14:00 (twelve years ago) link

entshuldigen sie bitte?

Mark G, Tuesday, 14 June 2011 14:07 (twelve years ago) link

I like the German (and apparently many other languages) thing of having a different word for "yes" in reply to a question expecting the answer "no", e.g.
- You don't want that cake, do you?
- Doch! (= yes, actually, I do!)

This seems like a helpful thing to have on occasion, as these questions are sometimes confusing to respond to, though I couldn't think of a really ambiguous example.

Meanwhile, some languages always reply to questions with a restatement of the verb ("Are you watching TV?" "I'm watching" / "I'm not watching"), so I guess they always need a full sentence. iirc - maybe Tuomas will correct me here - Finnish usually does this, though it does also have a word for "yes", and since it doesn't use pronouns the answer is still usually only one word long.

(end pointless linguistic geekery)

sambal dalek (a passing spacecadet), Tuesday, 14 June 2011 14:18 (twelve years ago) link

Oh, and my spite/triumph at hearing this woman (who is a native English speaker) ask "is there a ..." this morning is because she can't get the benefit of the doubt if she asks the same damn kind of question herself and expects an answer. Or something.

I've had a lot more caffeine now, so I'm less angry, but not making any more sense.

sambal dalek (a passing spacecadet), Tuesday, 14 June 2011 14:19 (twelve years ago) link

dear person with whom i discussed an issue with over 2 weeks ago: please stop emailing me to ask if i am doing x. i already told you i was doing it. relax, i know how to do my job.

tehresa, Tuesday, 14 June 2011 14:44 (twelve years ago) link

so annoyed i double with-ed!

tehresa, Tuesday, 14 June 2011 14:44 (twelve years ago) link

Deathsche its eine gutten speile fur die kulturemuffels!

coffeetripperspillerslyricmakeruppers (Latham Green), Tuesday, 14 June 2011 14:48 (twelve years ago) link

All that German was lost on me.
I thought you were saying "Ach!" meant "Yes."

Jesse, Tuesday, 14 June 2011 15:08 (twelve years ago) link

I speak terrible german taht germans laugh at merrily - I didnt study in high school, I just diddled on my notebooks

coffeetripperspillerslyricmakeruppers (Latham Green), Tuesday, 14 June 2011 15:10 (twelve years ago) link

Ugh. Lawyers can't figure out the simple process of conference calling still. Good thing that one of them copes with failed calls by panicking and whining instead of listening to me or letting me intervene make the call work.

Jesse, Tuesday, 14 June 2011 16:21 (twelve years ago) link

diddled or doodled? If the former, no wonder the germans laughed

If I am asked "Is it possible to do x?" then I reply "Yes. Would you like me to show/tell you how?" This way is the best of all possible worlds. xxxxp

hand me the banana of shame (NotEnough), Wednesday, 15 June 2011 10:28 (twelve years ago) link

So I have this temp from another department on the desk next to mine today. He's been here a few weeks and we've not really had a conversation beyond "hi" in the mornings. Not a peep out of him all day so far until he comes back from his lunch break, finishes what he was eating at his desk and wipes all his crumbs off the desk and onto mine. Some went into my lap.

I'm sat here mouth agape, totally fucking speechless.

James Mitchell, Thursday, 16 June 2011 14:08 (twelve years ago) link

o_O

the fey bloggers are onto the zagat tweets (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 16 June 2011 14:12 (twelve years ago) link

please stop saying the word "exposure" at me.

Ste, Thursday, 16 June 2011 14:18 (twelve years ago) link

ok, you have to say something to him about that or you're a floor mat #perhapsoverstatingitabit

xxpost

Mr. Patrick Batman (WmC), Thursday, 16 June 2011 14:20 (twelve years ago) link

ahhhhhh why are you not paying attention to anything ever and then suddenly deciding it's time to micromanage and give me a ton of shit about something that i want NOTHING to do with?

tehresa, Thursday, 16 June 2011 15:16 (twelve years ago) link

The other night one of the partners here was waiting for me to print out a proposal on our letterhead for him to sign before he left. He was hovering because he was in a hurry, then told me to "not worry too much about formatting, the numbers are the important thing", only to have me reformat it because the top margin was "a little off". It was, literally, .06 inches from where he wanted it. Perfectionists, ugh.

the fey bloggers are onto the zagat tweets (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 16 June 2011 15:20 (twelve years ago) link

in general everyone tends to annoy each other at work sooner or later - would a gripe session help?

coffeetripperspillerslyricmakeruppers (Latham Green), Thursday, 16 June 2011 15:22 (twelve years ago) link

i am on
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jK-NcRmVcw
at my job right now, so no. i just want to go away and never see this person again!

tehresa, Thursday, 16 June 2011 15:24 (twelve years ago) link

The other night one of the partners here was waiting for me to print out a proposal on our letterhead for him to sign before he left. He was hovering because he was in a hurry, then told me to "not worry too much about formatting, the numbers are the important thing", only to have me reformat it because the top margin was "a little off". It was, literally, .06 inches from where he wanted it. Perfectionists, ugh.

― the fey bloggers are onto the zagat tweets (jon /via/ chi 2.0),

The owner at my first printing job had a sign up that said "Why is there never enough time to do it right but always enough time to do it over?"

Mr. Patrick Batman (WmC), Thursday, 16 June 2011 15:27 (twelve years ago) link

ha!

magic punani (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 16 June 2011 15:28 (twelve years ago) link

awesome

tehresa, Thursday, 16 June 2011 15:29 (twelve years ago) link

dont get pissy with me becuae you dont understand our system at all

coffeetripperspillerslyricmakeruppers (Latham Green), Thursday, 16 June 2011 15:29 (twelve years ago) link

"Why is there never enough time to do it right but always enough time to do it over?"

Fuck, that is my company summed up in one sentence.

a fucking stove just fell on my foot. (Colonel Poo), Thursday, 16 June 2011 15:32 (twelve years ago) link

i think i am just at my limit with the 'i'm gonna be all hands off and not pay attention to the 300 emails that have been sent about this project in the last 3 weeks but now when you have everything settled/arranged/under control i will suddenly decide i want to be in charge and make your life hell for the remainder of the project's lifespan' thing.

tehresa, Thursday, 16 June 2011 15:33 (twelve years ago) link

See thats the thing, as far as I knew, I WAS doing it the right way. Its not my fault someone edited the firm-wide letterhead template.

the fey bloggers are onto the zagat tweets (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 16 June 2011 15:34 (twelve years ago) link

The owner of that print shop is an interesting character. Major workaholic, pushes her people hard, but is careful to check herself constantly and ease off the gas if she's stressing people out. And she's big on taking a few minutes before various points of no return, double checking your work, reducing the error/waste rate. I kinda liked working there, hard as it was.

Mr. Patrick Batman (WmC), Thursday, 16 June 2011 15:39 (twelve years ago) link

And she's big on taking a few minutes before various points of no return, double checking your work, reducing the error/waste rate.

Big fan of this idea, tbh.

the fey bloggers are onto the zagat tweets (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 16 June 2011 15:41 (twelve years ago) link

There were problems with our email service last night, so our brilliant IT dept fixed it...which caused something else in the same program not to work. Idiots.

aguirre, the wrath of frogbs (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 14:12 (twelve years ago) link

weird. our email has been really strange lately too.

anyways - if you're so smart, why don't you fix the email yourself then?

magic punani (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 14:26 (twelve years ago) link

lol

chupacabra - a delicious burrito (DJP), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 14:28 (twelve years ago) link

You joke, but I don't have enough fingers to count the times that tech support was so bad, I had to fix things on my own...

aguirre, the wrath of frogbs (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 14:30 (twelve years ago) link

The real reason I'm mad is that they may have just deleted my mailfile "on accident"

aguirre, the wrath of frogbs (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 14:44 (twelve years ago) link

what i hate more than anything is people who say 'on accident'!!!

tehresa, Tuesday, 21 June 2011 14:56 (twelve years ago) link

well, ok, that sounds really annoying if they can't retrieve it.
but one of the best ways to be the stupid/annoying coworker is to assume everyone else's job is easy and if everything doesn't go as expected it's because they're stupid/annoying.

xpost ha ha

magic punani (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 15:02 (twelve years ago) link

The anger may be irrational, but it is pretty frustrating to lose 90 minutes of work due to not being able to access anything at all.

Fortunately, it seems to have resolved itself.
I would cut the dept more slack if I hadn't had major issues with them for the last 5 years and if complaints about them weren't the first thing out of most of our employees' mouths during townhalls.

I'd expect to be criticized if I performed this way in my role.

But anyway...problem solved, moving on w/ my day now.

aguirre, the wrath of frogbs (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 15:16 (twelve years ago) link

office communicator message to from our accounts team, y'know that lot on 30-40k+

"in the post room there is a tray for africa and asia and latin america, i have a letter here for egypt where do i put it?"

my response: "you don't know where egypt is?"

accounts: "you didn't answer my question, which tray do i put it in?"

Crackle Box, Tuesday, 21 June 2011 15:21 (twelve years ago) link

lol

meanwhile they are bitching about you to their friends "so unhelpful! I hate it when someone answers a simple question with a question!"

chupacabra - a delicious burrito (DJP), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 15:23 (twelve years ago) link

no actually after providing a link to maps.google.com (i'm an arse but we have a lol relationship, she once asked me what a spreadsheet was)

so, it continues

accounts: "it's not as simple as you think, egypt is in africa and the middle east, so which tray do i put it in?"

Crackle Box, Tuesday, 21 June 2011 15:29 (twelve years ago) link

is there a mid-east tray?

magic punani (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 15:30 (twelve years ago) link

not pulling your weight even when people say to you point blank "everyone thinks you are not pulling your weight"

coffeetripperspillerslyricmakeruppers (Latham Green), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 15:34 (twelve years ago) link

she once asked me what a spreadsheet was

wait waht

chupacabra - a delicious burrito (DJP), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 15:41 (twelve years ago) link

okay, well i sent her an email with an *.xls attached and i got an email back saying "IS THIS A SPREADSHEET???"

i forgot, everythis is always caps, hehe

i still don't really know what she meant by that response. it's become a bit of a thing in our team though, "IS THIS A EMAIL???"

Crackle Box, Tuesday, 21 June 2011 15:56 (twelve years ago) link

Can only imagine what she must have said the first time she had sex

aguirre, the wrath of frogbs (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 15:59 (twelve years ago) link

"IS THIS A SPREAD SHEET?"

Mark G, Tuesday, 21 June 2011 16:00 (twelve years ago) link

maybe she meant "you call that a spreadsheet?"

coffeetripperspillerslyricmakeruppers (Latham Green), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 16:00 (twelve years ago) link

TIMING! yeah!

Mark G, Tuesday, 21 June 2011 16:00 (twelve years ago) link

Seriously, I don't mind getting rounds of tea in, but guys, it might be nice to reciprocate once in a while. Seriousloy, the all wait around looking for someone to make a round, then when I decide to be the bigger man and get the tea in, they all reach towards me with their mugs anxiously requesting a drink, it's like springwatch in here.

hand me the banana of shame (NotEnough), Tuesday, 28 June 2011 08:30 (twelve years ago) link

Seriously.

hand me the banana of shame (NotEnough), Tuesday, 28 June 2011 08:31 (twelve years ago) link

Ha ha making rounds of tea. That never works.

fields of salmon, Tuesday, 28 June 2011 15:50 (twelve years ago) link

what the fuck are you talking about

coffeetripperspillerslyricmakeruppers (Latham Green), Tuesday, 28 June 2011 16:24 (twelve years ago) link

i think they're making tea by the cauldron.

You've been here for two years. We work for a regional publishing company. QUIT ASKING THE ENTIRE OFFICE WHERE "GREENBRIAR" IS AND BOOKMARK GOOGLE MAPS.

Pleasant Plains, Tuesday, 28 June 2011 16:37 (twelve years ago) link

thats just rong

coffeetripperspillerslyricmakeruppers (Latham Green), Tuesday, 28 June 2011 17:14 (twelve years ago) link

Don't ask me to explore alternatives and write a new role proposal that could possibly change my job, and then pretend that it doesn't mean anything. You have only made me realise that my job isn't effective and totally broken. Your a senior level, smug faced, time wasting twunt.

Garghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

Ray the Otter. (captain rosie), Wednesday, 29 June 2011 09:36 (twelve years ago) link

"Hey guess what Trayce, I'm leaving on friday!"
"aw no, why? Oh btw who's driving yr major project now?"
"you are"

U&&^%^&

Bloompsday (Trayce), Wednesday, 29 June 2011 10:01 (twelve years ago) link

(in fairness a) I already was and b) he said I was doing a brill job and c) he isnt a boss)

Bloompsday (Trayce), Wednesday, 29 June 2011 10:02 (twelve years ago) link

Working on a project of a six-impossible-things-before-breakfast nature. It has been utter madness from day 1, and though good people are working 70 hour weeks on it, there's a certain amount of chaos. Everyone has been heroically good-humoured about it.

A week ago my boss brought in a new temporary project manager with the sole task of applying some control to all this.

New PM to me, about 4x a day: "What's the bloody point of all this? This project is a load of shit, there's been no governance, I'm used to working somewhere where there's some FUCKING ORGANISATION, you are wasting my time &c &c."

Do I rat him out? He's raised my blood pressure to the point where I want to go off sick just to get away from him.

Also unknown as Zora (Surfing At Work), Wednesday, 29 June 2011 10:50 (twelve years ago) link

Politely tell him that getting angry is understandable but not constructive, and that you believe it is his job is to introduce a set of controls which will ensure the project delivers to cost,quality and time.

That's where I started. /sigh

Also unknown as Zora (Surfing At Work), Wednesday, 29 June 2011 10:58 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah like um, isnt it his job to introduce said governance and organisation? Geesh.

Bloompsday (Trayce), Wednesday, 29 June 2011 10:58 (twelve years ago) link

tbh PM sounds like me most of the time. I don't know how the hell people put up with this shit otherwise. I'm not a PM though.

a fucking stove just fell on my foot. (Colonel Poo), Wednesday, 29 June 2011 10:59 (twelve years ago) link

slap his cuntish face

Chunks on strippers is the game of my frog (darraghmac), Wednesday, 29 June 2011 11:03 (twelve years ago) link

People put up with loads of stuff perfectly well until some idiot starts ranting about how shit it all is. "you are wasting my time" is the worst. yes. we're all wasting our time. we'd all much rather be doing something fun or creative but unfortunately this is work, and we need to feed our children so stfu.

idgi then. Or is the point of this thread that you rant about how shit it all is to people outside of the office? Doesn't seem very constructive. I guess I figure it's better I complain about stuff on the off chance someone will actually do something about it.

a fucking stove just fell on my foot. (Colonel Poo), Wednesday, 29 June 2011 11:25 (twelve years ago) link

lol I mean I have in fact used the words "stop wasting my time" this morning. But they were!

a fucking stove just fell on my foot. (Colonel Poo), Wednesday, 29 June 2011 11:25 (twelve years ago) link

Poo, if people are being stupid, lazy, wilfully disorganised, and you have asked them 100x to get organised a little more and they've ignored yr sage advice, I'm calling that 'situation A'.

If, OTOH, people have been working themselves into fits of exhausted nausea to mobilise in 6 weeks >1000 new recruits in 6 new offices, doing high profile work every step of which has to be picked over and signed off by legal people,, and YOU WERE HIRED SPECIFICALLY TO HELP US BE ORGANISED, I'll call that 'situation B'.

B /= A.

And yes I think people sometimes vent here to save themselves being inappropriately rude in the workplace.

Also unknown as Zora (Surfing At Work), Wednesday, 29 June 2011 11:50 (twelve years ago) link

"You're wasting my time", such a horrible status-protecting thing to say. there with "I'm a very busy man" or "sent from my Blackberry"

(sorry CP, nowt personal of course :D

Yeah Zora's right, if someone was explicitly hired to fix the "load of shit" but then does nothing but bitch about it being shit and do nothing to fix it AS THEY WERE HIRED TO DO I'd be piss mad.

Bloompsday (Trayce), Wednesday, 29 June 2011 11:55 (twelve years ago) link

This guy is indeed superheating my urine.

Also unknown as Zora (Surfing At Work), Wednesday, 29 June 2011 12:56 (twelve years ago) link

part of my new duties this week involves loading €5k in coins into my car and driving them to the bank, uninsured and without supervision/help.

Nobody sees a problem with this, i dunno. I feel like a walkon part in 'heat', ie victim #5 or w/e

stopgap dn tbh (darraghmac), Wednesday, 29 June 2011 13:53 (twelve years ago) link

ps five large in coins is fucking heavy

stopgap dn tbh (darraghmac), Wednesday, 29 June 2011 13:53 (twelve years ago) link

btw where do you work and what is your most likely route

also do you happen to have a superfast forklift

DJP, Wednesday, 29 June 2011 14:17 (twelve years ago) link

(buys Nixon mask)

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 29 June 2011 14:20 (twelve years ago) link

the route is the only one to the bank from the civic offices and my car reg is 02 W heeeeey waitaminute

Darranzhi MacKhakhala (darraghmac), Wednesday, 29 June 2011 14:21 (twelve years ago) link

i love it when my office is too cheap to hire someone that knows what they're doing.
this woman that is now assigned to "helping" me is sucking up more of my time by having no clue how to go about her job. and it's not like i'm being impatient with our procedures and other things anybody would need time to figure out - this is shit (like how to use a mac/sever/indesign/illustrator) that i shouldn't have to be explaining consistently throughout the day.

i also love it when i pass a project off to another coworker - who is supposed to have some sort of functioning brain for reading/analyzing/making conclusions - and she comes over and begins asking me 1,000 questions about said project WITHOUT EVEN LOOKING AT IT. LOOK AT IT AND YOU WILL SEE WHY YOUR QUESTIONS ARE DUMB BEYOND REASON.

this was the convo:
dunce: "what's the bla bla bla... is this yadda yadda... does it have etc etc"
me: "you didn't look at it did you"
dunce: blank stare... "i guess i should?"
me: points to her towards her desk

In staff meeting, co-worker says, "Hey, maybe we should set up a session for James to teach everybody Photoshop!"

I hate being volunteered for stuff!

hyman lee roth (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 29 June 2011 23:31 (twelve years ago) link

also love it when i pass a project off to another coworker - who is supposed to have some sort of functioning brain for reading/analyzing/making conclusions - and she comes over and begins asking me 1,000 questions about said project WITHOUT EVEN LOOKING AT IT.

Not to get picky all over your IA because every IA is aggravating in its own way, but if I'm inheriting a project from someone, I'd sure like them to take the time to walk me through their work and thought processes to date.

you're in the club and the light hits your ass like pow (Laurel), Wednesday, 29 June 2011 23:36 (twelve years ago) link

'what username should i use?'
'dangermouse, password penfold.'
'what is the username?'
'dangermouse.'
'what is the password?'
'penfold. p e n f o l d.'
'p e n?'
'f o l d.'

ledge, Thursday, 30 June 2011 09:59 (twelve years ago) link

people who don't listen are the most disgusting savages imo

feta coulis (get bent), Thursday, 30 June 2011 10:14 (twelve years ago) link

one pet peeve is people who are all smug about how well they "multitask" or how they don't need to take notes during meetings, except when push comes to shove, it's unitasking/note-taking me that gets shit right cuz i was paying attention all along.

feta coulis (get bent), Thursday, 30 June 2011 10:17 (twelve years ago) link

multi-tasking often means "attention deficit disorder"

coffeetripperspillerslyricmakeruppers (Latham Green), Thursday, 30 June 2011 19:17 (twelve years ago) link

Myopia in the workplace

& (a you), Thursday, 30 June 2011 19:18 (twelve years ago) link

Not to get picky all over your IA because every IA is aggravating in its own way, but if I'm inheriting a project from someone, I'd sure like them to take the time to walk me through their work and thought processes to date.

these were questions she was asking assuming it was another job, and even if it was the job she was looking at, half her questions would have been answered by... LOOKING. AT. IT. just for a few mere seconds. i don't know what an IA is, btw but i think you're assuming i have some kind of job i do not.

and she wasn't taking the project over for that matter either. it's basically her job to take the file i built, make sure the copy is right and get the creatives and account team to sign off on it, then give it back.

Oh sorry, I forgot this was the co-workers thread, an IA is an "irrational annoyance". The other thing is that I work with someone who's super hardcore about being asked questions and half the time I think he's hating me somewhere right behind his eyes.

you're in the club and the light hits your ass like pow (Laurel), Thursday, 30 June 2011 19:31 (twelve years ago) link

ha ha - this is no IA. it was basically an ad she decided to literally not look at and instead come over and ask a bazillion irrelevant questions about.

which were all answered (or rendered null) immediately upon returning to her desk and glancing at what i had given her.

I'll come to Canada and slap her for you.

Bloompsday (Trayce), Thursday, 30 June 2011 23:32 (twelve years ago) link

We rolled out a new tool today, and upon arrival, I see the introductory email, explaining I should have gotten a new ID/password yesterday.

Of course, I didn't, and on reading the FAQ they published weeks ago, it tells us we use our existing I'd and password. I try it, it doesn't work, so I call our help desk.

The help desk line appears to have malfunctioned, as after five separate tries, it goes to dead air after the intro message, instead of bringing up menu options, and hitting the keypad does nothing.

I have to then manually start a ticket via email to get this fixed. And...we are required to run something in this new tool today.

I emailed the person who sent the email today to ask about the contradictory info in the two documents, and she says she can't get into the tool, then contradicts the email she sent today and says we should use existing IDs/passwords.

Look, I'm forgiving about hiccups when something new is rolled out, but there's a diff between that and flat out disorganization...and as a result, the Support Center is now overloaded.

Ugh.

john valjean bon jovi (Neanderthal), Friday, 1 July 2011 12:22 (twelve years ago) link

I had problems earlier in the week with my most direct colleague, who through a series of meetings and memos, demonstrated that he was completely unable to string together a coherent sentence that could represent any idea that he might have been trying to express. Yesterday, 10 minutes before I had to leave, another coworker approached me with a question and she was similarly unable to speak English in any meaningful way. So I just turned her loose on him. Expecting fallout this morning.

kkvgz, Friday, 1 July 2011 12:42 (twelve years ago) link

I hope it goes like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQbYc7qLgBc&feature=player_detailpage

Confused Turtle (Zora), Friday, 1 July 2011 12:57 (twelve years ago) link

Yes! A combination of that and this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9RCaRv-_jQ

kkvgz, Friday, 1 July 2011 13:05 (twelve years ago) link

Ok, my guy who couldn't keep his shit together earlier in the week totally redeemed himself on this one. Feel like a bit of an asshole for anonymously bitching about him on the internet.

kkvgz, Friday, 1 July 2011 13:27 (twelve years ago) link

the only thing to do is confess!

give him ur g+ invite

Darranzhi MacKhakhala (darraghmac), Friday, 1 July 2011 17:40 (twelve years ago) link

My coworker who never puts anything into other people's leaving collections, not even when someone he was super chatty and matey with left after being kind of screwed over by mgmt, is leaving, and the large amount of money in his leaving collection is upsetting my need for a simplistic karma-based universe

(ps he is not super poor or anything, or if he is maybe he wouldn't be if he didn't get a new smartphone every 3 seconds and go abroad multiple times a year)

anyway I hope his new job does not think he is quite so goddamn awesome and his new boss might notice that he starts his 9-5:30 job at 9:47 every day and still goes before 5

yes this is the guy I revived the "bitterness" thread over, though no, he wasn't the first and he won't be the last to make me so irrationally goddamn fz"£*$"£ oh god i hate my brain, can anyone help me fix it? please.

sticky crisco (a passing spacecadet), Monday, 4 July 2011 21:16 (twelve years ago) link

is there any way you can volunteer to be the one to buy the gift? someone my wife works with once did this for somebody who had been giving him the shits for years. he took all the collected $$ and bought a truly gigantic roll of glad-wrap from a catering suplies company.

Or buy one of those "I bought a goat for the village" charity cards.

hand me the banana of shame (NotEnough), Tuesday, 5 July 2011 14:44 (twelve years ago) link

"Do you eat anything but potato chips? At nine in the morning, even? Do you have any teeth left in your head that could help you accomplish your potato-chip-eating more quietly, or is lip-smacking going to have to take care of the entire mastication process?"

-me, in my head, far too often

boxall, Tuesday, 5 July 2011 14:49 (twelve years ago) link

Put your fucking shoes back on! That's disgusting. This is a fucking professional office and you shouldn't be walking all over it in bare feet. So IA right now over this.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Friday, 8 July 2011 17:11 (twelve years ago) link

Or buy one of those "I bought a goat for the village" charity cards.

Oh man, I wish I'd done this, except I wouldn't have dared

anyway, much as I enjoy hating him for getting away with things nobody else could and still apparently charming everyone, I'll probably even miss him, because they're putting the most annoying person in the department in the seat he's left, 2 feet behind me

my future officemate wandered in with a glass of orange juice earlier and I had no idea it was possible to make so many disgusting lipsmacking noises for 200ml of liquid, ugh

sticky crisco (a passing spacecadet), Friday, 8 July 2011 17:46 (twelve years ago) link

please stop the drama

coffeetripperspillerslyricmakeruppers (Latham Green), Friday, 8 July 2011 18:00 (twelve years ago) link

love all my coworkers, got so bummed when 1 of them quit this spring i was sad for like a day. they are never annoying

flopson, Friday, 8 July 2011 18:11 (twelve years ago) link

u guys every goof around with your coworkers, while working? like little fun jokes & stuff

flopson, Friday, 8 July 2011 18:14 (twelve years ago) link

constantly. i work in advertising, it's sort of the norm (for good shops)!

I am an dinfamous practical joker! like I put acid in man's teabag and he cry!

coffeetripperspillerslyricmakeruppers (Latham Green), Friday, 8 July 2011 18:25 (twelve years ago) link

tee hee hee! mischeif!!

coffeetripperspillerslyricmakeruppers (Latham Green), Friday, 8 July 2011 18:44 (twelve years ago) link

I pu tapril wine in the company pot!!!!1

coffeetripperspillerslyricmakeruppers (Latham Green), Friday, 8 July 2011 18:44 (twelve years ago) link

today when i was leaving work, walking past the bread shelves, was like
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdeRinCdS9A

flopson, Friday, 8 July 2011 21:21 (twelve years ago) link

If we all worked with drunk Liz Hurley do you think we'd be on this thread complaining?

boxall, Friday, 8 July 2011 21:25 (twelve years ago) link

Had a work BBQ last night, got a bit tipsy and told a few people i thought they were a little rude for blanking me in the office, they seemed horrified and apologized. Now I feel bad for mentioning it.

Thought I'd check this thread and see if someone had put "who the hell does the new guy think he is, getting drunk and telling me I'm rude"

Should be interesting in a couple of hours when I get to work :/

not_goodwin, Friday, 15 July 2011 06:19 (twelve years ago) link

This is why I cant bring myself to get drunk in front of (at least my current) workmates, ha. I run off at the mouth so easy when Ive had a few :(

Bloompsday (Trayce), Friday, 15 July 2011 06:21 (twelve years ago) link

I must add, none of them are annoying yet.

not_goodwin, Friday, 15 July 2011 07:04 (twelve years ago) link

I don't even understand how popcorn is appealing when its nearly 100 degrees outside.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:58 (twelve years ago) link

manager in email: "hi everyone, we've just pushed payroll day forward a day!"

... thanks for advising us of this THE DAY BEFORE PAYDAY. Now I have to stretch to an extra day with zero spare cash :(

Bloompsday (Trayce), Wednesday, 20 July 2011 00:41 (twelve years ago) link

wouldn't 'forward' mean earlier?

my ex once had her bosses change salary payment from fortnightly in advance to fortnightly in arrears THE WEEK BEFORE CHRISTMAS.

koogs, Wednesday, 20 July 2011 06:59 (twelve years ago) link

I meant forward in the week sense, so Friday instead of Thurs. But yeah ugh.

Bloompsday (Trayce), Wednesday, 20 July 2011 07:03 (twelve years ago) link

Just one day... wait, just four hours, without the stench of nasty burnt popcorn would be fucking amazing.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Wednesday, 20 July 2011 14:26 (twelve years ago) link

I am appalled at this waste of precious resources, money is tight and here is some spoiled person demanding reimbursements on, like, McDonald's milkshakes and the like, also academic conferences for personal enrichment that are not work-related.

Just because her old boss apparently had money to burn doesn't mean she can demand this shit here. You want lunch, save money, eat in the food court.

YO MAMA. (Mount Cleaners), Wednesday, 20 July 2011 14:35 (twelve years ago) link

That sounds ridiculous. But, wait, your lunches get reimbursed?

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Wednesday, 20 July 2011 14:39 (twelve years ago) link

If we're on conference for work or going on a business trip / meeting, all lunches / dinners - even alcoholic drinks - are reimbursed. That is generous enough.

However some people try to scam free lunches in the name of "professional enhancement"...excuse me that is your personal enhancement, it's not in the interests of your employer.

YO MAMA. (Mount Cleaners), Wednesday, 20 July 2011 15:18 (twelve years ago) link

Gotcha. I'm with you, surprised they even reimburse alcohol, that is pretty generous.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Wednesday, 20 July 2011 15:21 (twelve years ago) link

sorta makes sense - you can write booze off if it's to entertain clients.

(thank you gov't of Canada for my partially subsidized scotch collection)

Yeah, they even serve beer and wine in house but only after four o'clock. Who can say no to free beer and wine? I'm surprised some religious teetotaller doesn't sue!

I usually don't indulge though, I am one of the more conservative people in the office and am always worried word will get out that I got drunk at work.

YO MAMA. (Mount Cleaners), Wednesday, 20 July 2011 15:39 (twelve years ago) link

Okay popcorn girl is talking, loudly, about going to a comedy show last night and this phrase verbatim came out of her mouth, "I had no idea what to expect at a comedy show". It was really really difficult to hold back on that one.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Wednesday, 20 July 2011 18:58 (twelve years ago) link

she's kind of really opening herself up there.

are you just jealous you don't get to go to conferences?
xpost

tehresa, Wednesday, 20 July 2011 23:13 (twelve years ago) link

also can you please define how going to a conference is personal enhancement?

tehresa, Wednesday, 20 July 2011 23:13 (twelve years ago) link

i mean, it's not like she's going out to get a mani/pedi

tehresa, Wednesday, 20 July 2011 23:13 (twelve years ago) link

That popcorn lady is seriously gonna get cancer.

Bloompsday (Trayce), Wednesday, 20 July 2011 23:19 (twelve years ago) link

Actually going to an academic conference can be personal career enhancement, lots of people submit a request for reimbursement for this just to see if they can get it past accounting.

YO MAMA. (Mount Cleaners), Thursday, 21 July 2011 01:07 (twelve years ago) link

I have no problem with the conference itself being reimbursed and maybe the travel, depending on just how tied in it is to your position and direct work, but if the conference is already kind of a stretch as to being directly applicable, I can totally understand why a company might not want to pay for all the food and drinks while you are there.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Thursday, 21 July 2011 01:31 (twelve years ago) link

jon, do you think one day you'll explode at her?

Mark C, Thursday, 21 July 2011 11:13 (twelve years ago) link

I'm not the exploding type, just the type to vent my frustrations to the world. I am getting really sick of my workspace smelling like burnt popcorn every day all day though. She's on her second bag of the morning, she had five bags yesterday.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Tuesday, 26 July 2011 15:24 (twelve years ago) link

This is a noob question I'm sure, but how is she burning it? Could you gently suggest cooking it for a shorter time will make it taste nicer?

Mark C, Tuesday, 26 July 2011 15:26 (twelve years ago) link

Leave passive-aggressive notes on the microwave. No. Unplug the microwave!!

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Tuesday, 26 July 2011 15:44 (twelve years ago) link

Remove the microwave.

kate78, Tuesday, 26 July 2011 15:45 (twelve years ago) link

I can't even walk past the popcorn section in the grocery store without getting a little queasy. I think you're within your rights to do something.

fields of salmon, Tuesday, 26 July 2011 15:51 (twelve years ago) link

It sounds like she's not right in the head!

weakness for Cinnabon; rampant heterosexuality (Je55e), Tuesday, 26 July 2011 15:58 (twelve years ago) link

Why won't you say anything to her about it?

an excellent source of vitamins and minerals (WmC), Tuesday, 26 July 2011 16:02 (twelve years ago) link

Time for direct action, can you show up at work really early, say four or five in the morning and just, like, break the microwave?

At my last place of employment, this would have been my first thought - the boss entrusted me with a set of master keys that could open shared spaces like the lunchroom and conference rooms! Scary having that kind of power.

Indie Pop: Intelligent People's Music (Mount Cleaners), Tuesday, 26 July 2011 16:04 (twelve years ago) link

Also, why doesn't she just pop all of her popcorn the day before and bring it into the office? I keep cold popcorn around the house, I actually like the taste better once it has cooled off!

Indie Pop: Intelligent People's Music (Mount Cleaners), Tuesday, 26 July 2011 16:06 (twelve years ago) link

The reason I don't say anything is that people have been confronting her about since I started working here a year ago and she shrugs it all off. Granted, no one has explicitly asked her to stop popping it completely, but plenty of others have expressed their displeasure and annoyance. Her tyipcal response is that, "well, then no one should be allowed to cook anything in the microwave". Basically I'm just not sure if its a battle worth fighting at this point.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Tuesday, 26 July 2011 16:09 (twelve years ago) link

Jeez, where is your microwave in relation to the rest of the workforce? I keep imagining my own workspace, where there is some food smell but it's usually take-out and smells good.

You know, one diplomatic solution to this is to envision a re-design where no one is distracted by food cooked in a microwave. Of course there will be the usual red tape...

Indie Pop: Intelligent People's Music (Mount Cleaners), Tuesday, 26 July 2011 16:14 (twelve years ago) link

how do you burn something in a microwave anyway?

Post-Manpat Music (dog latin), Tuesday, 26 July 2011 16:19 (twelve years ago) link

The microwave is off in a separate break room area, but there is no door so its effectively open to the rest of the office. Also, being an architect's office, the entire suite has an open floor plan so the smell travels really easily. I get the worst of it because I sit at the closest work station to the break area.

xpost - by letting it cook too long, leaving it unattended

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Tuesday, 26 July 2011 16:20 (twelve years ago) link

"well, then no one should be allowed to cook anything in the microwave".

Well, no one should be allowed to cook the same fragrant thing all day long, every day! Beyond the smell, it seems like it has to cut into her productivity to be constantly burning and eating popcorn.

weakness for Cinnabon; rampant heterosexuality (Je55e), Tuesday, 26 July 2011 16:20 (twelve years ago) link

OMG an architect's office has a break room with no door. When I was in school this would have been frowned upon. It's amazing what people aren't willing to spend money on! Your employer should accomodate your staff better, break rooms should be more private anyway. People have conversations and parties in them and stuff and you don't want to distract the staff.

Also I don't know how your workplace is but visitors and clients don't always want to walk into a scene where employees are stinking up the joint and stuffing their face with food!

At my old job we had a management that was more than willing to entertain new ideas....just that we didn't always have the money.

Indie Pop: Intelligent People's Music (Mount Cleaners), Tuesday, 26 July 2011 16:35 (twelve years ago) link

Seriously, I am all for direct action on this, you have suffered enough, fucking break the microwave. Take out the fuse, just incapacitate it and claim insanity, like in that film Falling Down.

Ray the Otter. (captain rosie), Tuesday, 26 July 2011 20:35 (twelve years ago) link

Hahahaha. I like that idea.

Now my rage is directed on the coworker that just accidentally moved an entire project folder into another location. I 100% believe that it was an accident, but I know have to spend all afternoon crawling through and making sure all of the xrefs in our drawings are still attached and properly referenced.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Tuesday, 26 July 2011 20:39 (twelve years ago) link

Honestly I think you should consider breaking the microwave. If you can do it without getting caught and fired, do it.

weakness for Cinnabon; rampant heterosexuality (Je55e), Tuesday, 26 July 2011 20:42 (twelve years ago) link

Do it! Break it! For all of us.

Ray the Otter. (captain rosie), Tuesday, 26 July 2011 21:00 (twelve years ago) link

jon, someone in my office totally scorched a bag yesterday - way down the hall from me, but oh how that stuff reeks - and I immediately had the fear that your co-worker had relocated. Seriously, disable the microwave; it's got to be so coated with burnt stink that anything cooked in it is going to pick it up and activate the smell.

Jaq, Tuesday, 26 July 2011 21:02 (twelve years ago) link

Thread has kind of made me crave popcorn tbh.

The microwave is off in a separate break room area, but there is no door so its effectively open to the rest of the office.

Move to the UK, health and safety regulations say you can't have a microwave in a room w/no door here

(at least, when the builders took the door off one of our work kitchens the microwave was confiscated and an email went round saying the above was why. but seriously, good luck, this does sound pretty crazy-making)

the ascent of nyan (a passing spacecadet), Tuesday, 26 July 2011 21:03 (twelve years ago) link

jon break it. do it. break the microwave jon.

weakness for Cinnabon; rampant heterosexuality (Je55e), Tuesday, 26 July 2011 21:11 (twelve years ago) link

Oh! I get why you can't have a microwave in a room with no door!

Jon - fake a pacemaker! Do it!

weakness for Cinnabon; rampant heterosexuality (Je55e), Tuesday, 26 July 2011 21:13 (twelve years ago) link

Well it looks like I'll have about 10 days to plan the destruction, just got an email that she'll be gone on vacation through the first week of August! Also, please note, this will be her fourth(!) week-long plus vacation of 2011 so far.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Tuesday, 26 July 2011 21:16 (twelve years ago) link

first week of August? is she going to the Eden Corn Festival?

http://www.edencornfest.com/

brownie, Tuesday, 26 July 2011 21:20 (twelve years ago) link

I don't know, but I will operate 100% under the assumption that she is.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Tuesday, 26 July 2011 21:27 (twelve years ago) link

Better to break it while she is there, looks more suspicious if it suddenly goes wrong while she's on holiday. You will also get to see her reaction when she realises she can't have her snack. You will be victorious!

Ray the Otter. (captain rosie), Tuesday, 26 July 2011 21:59 (twelve years ago) link

1 year anniversary w/ NO COWORKERS!!

it truly is everything i had hoped it would be.

je suis marxiste - tendence Groucho (will), Tuesday, 26 July 2011 22:16 (twelve years ago) link

enjoy this golden era before the first feelings of cabin fever and stir-craziness

an excellent source of vitamins and minerals (WmC), Tuesday, 26 July 2011 22:17 (twelve years ago) link

i have been to the eden corn festival!

tehresa, Tuesday, 26 July 2011 22:42 (twelve years ago) link

^consider your microwave targeted for destruction

brownie, Tuesday, 26 July 2011 22:45 (twelve years ago) link

um, i don't microwave popcorn!
my grandfather's house is just near there.

tehresa, Tuesday, 26 July 2011 22:45 (twelve years ago) link

maybe i will spare your microwave under the grandfather clause

brownie, Tuesday, 26 July 2011 22:48 (twelve years ago) link

enjoy this golden era before the first feelings of cabin fever and stir-craziness

i should note that part of my work involves getting teamed with a small group of folks (6-14) anywhere from 3-5 times a year. these gigs are petty much 7 days/ week, 15+ hours/ day, and will usually for about 3 weeks straight. so i get more than my fill of other people and their stinky food and annoying tics before I retreat back home.

je suis marxiste - tendence Groucho (will), Tuesday, 26 July 2011 22:50 (twelve years ago) link

in fact, i've not had popcorn in at least 6 months. but the last time was popped in a kettle on the stove by an expert popcorn maker who manages to use 99% of kernels without burning. :)

tehresa, Tuesday, 26 July 2011 22:54 (twelve years ago) link

i really enjoy working for a company with 10 employees, more than half of which are not in the office on most days.

tehresa, Tuesday, 26 July 2011 22:54 (twelve years ago) link

Perhaps, as a sign of solidarity we should all disable our microwaves at the same time? Annoyed co-workers unite!

Ray the Otter. (captain rosie), Tuesday, 26 July 2011 23:09 (twelve years ago) link

But then I can't use it to heat up my mackerel curry!

Jaq, Tuesday, 26 July 2011 23:50 (twelve years ago) link

Now my rage is directed on the coworker that just accidentally moved an entire project folder into another location. I 100% believe that it was an accident, but I know have to spend all afternoon crawling through and making sure all of the xrefs in our drawings are still attached and properly referenced

In an old job I was moving files around one Friday afternoon to clean things up--had moved them all but not relinked anything yet, and then was told over the weekend that my casual position was ended as of right away. It was pleasing to know that i"d had my revenge without meaning to, since my boss, who eliminated my position, was going to have to spend ages tracking everything down without access to my memories of where I'd moved it all

not bulimic, just a cat (James Morrison), Tuesday, 26 July 2011 23:52 (twelve years ago) link

looolll
xp

tehresa, Tuesday, 26 July 2011 23:54 (twelve years ago) link

the thought of someone eating that much popcorn in a day makes me feel sick. I usually feel queasy if I eat just one by myself.

Neanderthal, Tuesday, 26 July 2011 23:55 (twelve years ago) link

like she must be crapping pellets by now

Neanderthal, Tuesday, 26 July 2011 23:55 (twelve years ago) link

yeah i am now more struck by this woman's eating disorder than the awful smell. obv she needs serious help.

tehresa, Tuesday, 26 July 2011 23:57 (twelve years ago) link

but god i can't imagine how awful it must be to have to smell that every single day.

tehresa, Tuesday, 26 July 2011 23:57 (twelve years ago) link

at my place, we have signs DIRECTLY ABOVE THE MICROWAVE warning people that making popcorn anywhere besides the first floor is disallowed.

So when I walk by someone carrying a freshly popped bag out of the break room, I want to do terrible things to them, especially cuz they burn it half the time!

Neanderthal, Tuesday, 26 July 2011 23:58 (twelve years ago) link

Fucking burnt popcorn is so freaking carcinogenic. I've said it before, but that woman is on the A train to serious-illness town.

Also, couldnt you show yr boss/HR some of those articles on "popcorn lung" and say "hey isnt this a risk for the rest of us?" and see if they freak out? Make "we could sue" noises. Most companies hate that shit.

Rameses Street (Trayce), Wednesday, 27 July 2011 00:02 (twelve years ago) link

i vape my popcorn

brownie, Wednesday, 27 July 2011 00:04 (twelve years ago) link

yeah breaking the microwave is a really good idea

they most definitely will not just buy another microwave

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 27 July 2011 00:07 (twelve years ago) link

just ask your superior to talk to her about it that way she won't know who its coming from & so you don't have to deal with it

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 27 July 2011 00:09 (twelve years ago) link

you could just unplug it and see if anyone notices that's what's wrong with it
might buy you like, an hour

tehresa, Wednesday, 27 July 2011 00:10 (twelve years ago) link

am i ruining the fun? idk

at my old job there used to be this woman who would glumly eat lunch in the kitchen from time to time w/ the door closed and it would always make me feel really guilty when i had to go in there for some reason

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 27 July 2011 00:10 (twelve years ago) link

cuz she was eating your lunch?

The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 27 July 2011 00:11 (twelve years ago) link

guilty would not have been the emotion, so no

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 27 July 2011 00:12 (twelve years ago) link

also i would never keep my lunch in a rancid communal refrigerator

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 27 July 2011 00:16 (twelve years ago) link

This popcorn girl has exploited the single biggest weakness of democracy in the 20th and 21st centuries: If popcorn stinks, well then people whose cultures require them to microwave food which stinks such as chana masala or eat food for religious reasons could not eat their stinky, religious food without you getting upset, therefore i will continue to eat popcorn whenever i want.

Pretty much every boring, lard-ass honky I know who can't even eat onions because they're too "ethnic" realizes deep down that they themselves are the fucking problem and that smells can be tolerated in various degrees. not everyone likes every smell, fine, we'll figure something out.

Eating microwave popcorn, though, is really, really fucking selfish. Nobody likes the smell of microwaved popcorn. That's fucking selfish.

fields of salmon, Wednesday, 27 July 2011 06:48 (twelve years ago) link

I still think a nebulous "actually, some clients complained..." is the way to put the brakes on this woman's disgusting habit. It's kind of taken as read that it's a lie, but it's one of those corporate lies that the woman will have to abide by and there's really no comeback to such a statement by your boss.

Nobody in a place of business should be eating at their desk five times a day whatever the food. It's just gross, apart from any notions of what's acceptable professional behaviour.

murdoch most foul (suzy), Wednesday, 27 July 2011 07:01 (twelve years ago) link

I think the way to put the brakes on her disgusting habit is to require everyone in the office to get a colonoscopy. When she sees what eating irradiated buckshot is doing to hear fucking insides she'll wise up.

fields of salmon, Wednesday, 27 July 2011 07:06 (twelve years ago) link

Plus there's the side benefit of a free colonoscopy for you! Think!

fields of salmon, Wednesday, 27 July 2011 07:06 (twelve years ago) link

Really feeling for you, it's the little things that can really become stressful. I would still recommend some direct action, you could start gagging and act like your going to be sick next time she has some?

all microwaves must be destroyed (captain rosie), Wednesday, 27 July 2011 08:16 (twelve years ago) link

Breaking the microwave is what I'd like to see Jon do, even though it's not really a solution. At the very least, unplug it.

I'm more emotionally invested in this matter than I probably should be.

weakness for Cinnabon; rampant heterosexuality (Je55e), Wednesday, 27 July 2011 15:04 (twelve years ago) link

This chick is gonna shit out an ear of corn one day. Then eat it the long way.

Cindy Mancini can ride my lawnmower anytime (thebingo), Wednesday, 27 July 2011 15:08 (twelve years ago) link

Man you guys really hate popcorn. Sure burnt popcorn is pretty gross but reg popcorn smells awesome. I had no idea people felt so strongly about this.

ladies love draculas like children love stray dogs (ENBB), Wednesday, 27 July 2011 15:13 (twelve years ago) link

Ahh, I'm enjoying being able to actually smell my tea this morning, first day of her being out of the office.

Even cooked properly, cheap "diet" popcorn smells completely awful. Also, I think pretty much any "good" smell can become annoying when you have to smell it all day long.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Wednesday, 27 July 2011 15:16 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah I guess if it was something you smelled constantly it would get sort of annoying after a while.

ladies love draculas like children love stray dogs (ENBB), Wednesday, 27 July 2011 15:17 (twelve years ago) link

Well, it's specifically microwave popcorn in an open-plan office. I love popcorn too, but there is nothing - not even mackerel nuked to cinders - that smells more repulsive than cumulative microwaved popcorn odor. Except the lingering smell of cigarette smoking in offices back when it was allowed, which smelled exactly like someone dumped Coffee Mate into the ventilation shafts.

If you want to diminish the smell in the meantime, suggest that the microwave interior is cleaned properly once a week. This will involve bleach.

murdoch most foul (suzy), Wednesday, 27 July 2011 15:32 (twelve years ago) link

I don't mind the smell of popcorn at all, but if someone is scarfing down four or five bags a day, they are bringing their eating disorder into the workplace. So the smell of popcorn might become repellant because it is associated with a person who has self-control issues.

Chana masala smells incredible as does most Indian food...however I am often self-conscious about eating hot take-out at work unless it is in the break room.

Indie Pop: Intelligent People's Music (Mount Cleaners), Wednesday, 27 July 2011 15:32 (twelve years ago) link

cornists

Cindy Mancini can ride my lawnmower anytime (thebingo), Wednesday, 27 July 2011 16:33 (twelve years ago) link

i would like to know who in this office is the culprit of little rolled up toilet paper balls that are shit encrusted and left on the back of the toilet. SERIOUSLY are you jamming your finger up your ass when you are wiping?

Cindy Mancini can ride my lawnmower anytime (thebingo), Wednesday, 27 July 2011 17:29 (twelve years ago) link

Guys I'd just like to say that you could all have it worse I have written about it before but I'm not sure if it was on this thread and I'm not loading 10000s of msgs to find out. When I worked as a civil servant in London, I counted the following two individuals among my co-workers

a) man who masturbated every day in the mens' room after he finished his lunch which was packed daily by his mother with whom he still shared a bed
b) someone who literally just took a shit in the middle of the mens' room floor one day

I can't say there isn't a part of me that thinks that a) and b) might have been the same guy but I'm not certain.

ladies love draculas like children love stray dogs (ENBB), Wednesday, 27 July 2011 17:33 (twelve years ago) link

Yikes. How do you know about a)?

weakness for Cinnabon; rampant heterosexuality (Je55e), Wednesday, 27 July 2011 17:38 (twelve years ago) link

Nobody in a place of business should be eating at their desk five times a day whatever the food. It's just gross, apart from any notions of what's acceptable professional behaviour.

THANK YOU. I feel like a fucking killjoy as I seem to be the only one on my team who thinks someone bringing in a large container of homemade snacks (extra-crunchy of course!) that they munch from constantly throughout a day is just bad manners. Like, I can get a couple of pieces of fruit or whatever, but this is on top of lunch too.

gyac, Wednesday, 27 July 2011 17:41 (twelve years ago) link

Fuck that. You're supposed to eat 7 small meals a day.

kkvgz, Wednesday, 27 July 2011 17:42 (twelve years ago) link

Or something...I read that somewhere.

kkvgz, Wednesday, 27 July 2011 17:42 (twelve years ago) link

I'm extra not-give-a-fuck about my office manners lately though after they moved me from a shared office into a receptionists desk in the hallway (and apparently gave the shared office to a group of people who are in Africa half the time).

kkvgz, Wednesday, 27 July 2011 17:44 (twelve years ago) link

"Oh, you didn't want to see me with plum juice dribbling down my face? If I had an office again this little problem would just go away."

kkvgz, Wednesday, 27 July 2011 17:45 (twelve years ago) link

Fuck that. You're supposed to eat 7 small meals a day.

Pretty sure that might be popcorn girl's excuse too. I just think it's massively lacking in self-awareness, and it's also very annoying.

gyac, Wednesday, 27 July 2011 17:48 (twelve years ago) link

Yikes. How do you know about a)?

We had an overnight work thing once where we all went to dinner and then hung out in the hotel bar. People got pretty drunk and somehow this person's name came up and one of the guys mentioned that he always seemed to be doing some strange stuff around lunchtime. One by one the other guys were all like OMG you've heard him too? Every single one of them had had the misfortune of hearing this. I guess he really didn't care or try to cover up what he was doing. Oh man. That guy.

ladies love draculas like children love stray dogs (ENBB), Wednesday, 27 July 2011 17:50 (twelve years ago) link

How is it lacking in self-awareness to eat food?

kkvgz, Wednesday, 27 July 2011 17:53 (twelve years ago) link

idk, I feel like I shouldn't have to explain why constantly chomping away at your desk looks bad. and this is a once every ten minutes type constantly...

gyac, Wednesday, 27 July 2011 18:13 (twelve years ago) link

But who's even looking at you?

kkvgz, Wednesday, 27 July 2011 18:19 (twelve years ago) link

http://www.livestrong.com/article/253451-how-to-eat-7-small-meals-a-day/

kkvgz, Wednesday, 27 July 2011 18:29 (twelve years ago) link

Your co-workers and boss are watching. It seems to show a lack of self-awareness to defy a pretty apparent norm of a professional office environment, apparently obliviously. But maybe she is aware and all torn up about it, but powerless against her popcorn addiction.

weakness for Cinnabon; rampant heterosexuality (Je55e), Wednesday, 27 July 2011 18:45 (twelve years ago) link

Eating lots of snacks s fine, but loudly crunchy food is v v annoying.

Crunching on ice cubes, likewise (I had a workmate who used to eat ice all the time. I think it was some "thing" sportspeople do, or maybe its a quit smoking measure idk)

Rameses Street (Trayce), Thursday, 28 July 2011 00:45 (twelve years ago) link

5 bags of popcorn a day otoh has no benefit, is extremely unhealthy, and fwiw the fumes could in fact be a risk to everyone else in the office just sayin.

Rameses Street (Trayce), Thursday, 28 July 2011 00:46 (twelve years ago) link

She is definitely lacking in self-awareness and professional manners. In addition to the popcorn thing, she also engages in the following on a regular basis:

1) Takes her shoes off and walks around the office in bare feet.
2) Loudly talks about her personal life in embarassing detail, even after she has been asked to "keep it down".
3) Frequently eavesdrops on conversations throughout the office, jumping out of her seat to jump in and interject when she plainly wasn't involved in the first place.

Thing is she's also really smart and knows her shit really well when it comes to her job, so its unlikely that these annoyances are enough to push her out of the door.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Thursday, 28 July 2011 00:50 (twelve years ago) link

I am sorry to hear about that. Thank god I have usually worked in offices where there wasn't that sort of antagonism. In our office it was more "us against the world".

Except for the occasional bad student worker or solicitor. One student used to drive us nuts by not saying "excuse me" while he needed to pass a bunch of people. I'm also sure he didn't wash his hands after using the bathroom.

Keep Reading! (Mount Cleaners), Thursday, 28 July 2011 01:01 (twelve years ago) link

Eating lots of snacks s fine, but loudly crunchy food is v v annoying.

So you're saying that my celery and carrot sticks...ulp.

kkvgz, Thursday, 28 July 2011 01:02 (twelve years ago) link

Someone burnt the hell out of popcorn at my place today. Is this now an epidemic?

It smelled like a diaper with rotten carrots in it

Neanderthal, Thursday, 28 July 2011 01:08 (twelve years ago) link

kkvgz: nah veggies arent a big deal, nor apples. I'm talking more really crunch chips, nuts etc.

Rameses Street (Trayce), Thursday, 28 July 2011 01:13 (twelve years ago) link

I developed anosmia in 2010, so:

Pro: my when sorta co-worker (it's just me and 5 lawyers, so have no real co-workers) makes peanut butter and tuna sandwiches, I no longer have to smell that gnarly shit.

Con: I don't know when my lunch reeks. My solution is to stock the office with lots of what I remember being not-overwhelming apple and cinnamon air freshener and spray it if I'm eating anything except, say, plain white rice or saltines.

weakness for Cinnabon; rampant heterosexuality (Je55e), Thursday, 28 July 2011 01:56 (twelve years ago) link

TBH I'd rather smell the food than some stanky fake air freshner being sprayed all about, but thats just me.

Rameses Street (Trayce), Thursday, 28 July 2011 02:23 (twelve years ago) link

Yes, I worry about that, too. But IIRC, the apples 'n' cinnamon that I order really does smell like apple pie.

weakness for Cinnabon; rampant heterosexuality (Je55e), Thursday, 28 July 2011 02:38 (twelve years ago) link

It's interesting reading this as in my office it's very common for people to eat at their desk and it doesn't really bother me in the slightest. But then I'm one of the disgusting savages myself - I just had a bacon roll. The popcorn thing is something else IMO, a step beyond.

I guess if people were eating raw fish every day I'd be against it.

Operation Pooting (Colonel Poo), Thursday, 28 July 2011 08:48 (twelve years ago) link

My office doesn't have a break room, so eating at your desk at lunch time or having an occasional appropriate snack is not a not a big deal, but common sense serves me well and I usually don't eat stinky foods or obscene amounts of popcorn.

weakness for Cinnabon; rampant heterosexuality (Je55e), Thursday, 28 July 2011 16:02 (twelve years ago) link

The only times I've ever heard shit about food in my office:

One person who kept microwaving fish (which earned a PASSIVE-AGGRESSIVE NOTE from my boss that I wish I had photographed).

One woman who came by and chastised me for bringing french fries into the office because it made her want some.

People complaining about people who bring in baked goods and cookies around the holidays for the same reason.

kkvgz, Thursday, 28 July 2011 16:08 (twelve years ago) link

Xp Jon, you said that she eats a normal lunch on top of all of the popcorn? Is it made up of a wide variety of foods, or does she tend to eat the same thing every day?

Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Thursday, 28 July 2011 19:32 (twelve years ago) link

And here you are on a different thread posting about popcorn. This has been on your mind, hasn't it? ; )

kkvgz, Thursday, 28 July 2011 19:33 (twelve years ago) link

xpost - No, she very rarely eats a regular meal. Most days its just three or four bags of popcorn a day. The only times I've seen her eat a regular kind of lunch is when we have a lunch and learn presentation brought in, then she'll eat whatever is offered.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Thursday, 28 July 2011 19:36 (twelve years ago) link

kkvgz, I just saw the other popcorn-related post and I will just say that I really hope D3@7hdr0n3 will one day get hold of this person's popcorn bag.

weakness for Cinnabon; rampant heterosexuality (Je55e), Thursday, 28 July 2011 19:38 (twelve years ago) link

:-B

Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Thursday, 28 July 2011 20:06 (twelve years ago) link

xp I was asking about her lunch because I was suspecting that she has Asperger's and has a limited number of foods that she lets herself eat.

Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Thursday, 28 July 2011 20:08 (twelve years ago) link

maybe she is poor and can only afford popcorn.

Cindy Mancini can ride my lawnmower anytime (thebingo), Thursday, 28 July 2011 20:10 (twelve years ago) link

Definitely not the case. Not only does she get several boxes from Endless and Zappos delivered to the office each week, but she is often talking about all the lavish things she buys and vacations she takes. She's also hinted about her parents paying her rent for her, so she's not poor. I'm leaning more towards the eating disorder than anything else.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Thursday, 28 July 2011 20:12 (twelve years ago) link

she spends all her money on shoes and popcorn. maybe she is the heiress to Orville Redenbacher

Cindy Mancini can ride my lawnmower anytime (thebingo), Thursday, 28 July 2011 20:14 (twelve years ago) link

today around 4:00 my coworker said, "LOOK WHAT I BROUGHT!!!" and pulled out two bags of microwave popcorn. i've been working at this company for 4 years, and no one has ever microwaved popcorn in the office. the timing (after reading this thread yesterday) was so perfect i started cracking up to the point that she was confused, and i had one of those "how do you explain [long ilx thread] in a quick sentence to people who don't do 'message boards?'" moments.

and you are a part of everything and everything is like melting (ytth), Friday, 29 July 2011 03:07 (twelve years ago) link

lol

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Friday, 29 July 2011 03:11 (twelve years ago) link

Hahaha awesome

Rameses Street (Trayce), Friday, 29 July 2011 03:19 (twelve years ago) link

She wasn't a coworker in the same sense that most of the people mentioned on this thread have been, but the wife of one of my clients ate nothing but cauliflower during every day I was there.

Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Saturday, 30 July 2011 00:13 (twelve years ago) link

guy just started flossing his teeth while I was talking to him o_O

a million anons (onimo), Wednesday, 3 August 2011 10:22 (twelve years ago) link

haha that is super ballsy

Dark Noises from the Eurozone (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 3 August 2011 10:25 (twelve years ago) link

it's like the kind of thing designed to make you feel like larry david

Dark Noises from the Eurozone (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 3 August 2011 10:26 (twelve years ago) link

I didn't know what to say tbh

(other than "You're British WTF are you doing with that piece of string?!" obv)

a million anons (onimo), Wednesday, 3 August 2011 10:39 (twelve years ago) link

That's just rude. What a cock.

all microwaves must be destroyed (captain rosie), Wednesday, 3 August 2011 18:00 (twelve years ago) link

ffs, apples should be outlawed in offices. I enjoy nature's tasty treats as much as the next guy but there is not reason I should have to put up with mouthbreathing CHOMP-CRUNCH-SLURP-SLOP-CHEWCHEW-SLURP-CHOMPCRUNCHSLOPSLOPSLURP while I'm on a conference call!

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Wednesday, 10 August 2011 20:13 (twelve years ago) link

Uuughh a guy I used to work with ate nectarines (I think it was) and he'd really shlllurrrrpp at them and that sound squicks me out WAY more than crunching does. There's somehting about that quiet, persistent shlup shluurrp smak dribble chew sound that makes me want to gouge out my own eyeballs. Dunno why.

This same man also farted all day long without apology or acknowledgement which was gross.

Rameses Street (Trayce), Thursday, 11 August 2011 02:43 (twelve years ago) link

We have this employee in another dept who is a manager that completely shirks her duties.

A few months ago, she bailed on and refused to lead a training last minute, claiming she wasn't knowledgable enough, even though she was supposed to be an expert on the material per her job description. This screwed a friend of mine into having to do it.

Later, she rejected meeting invites (future-dated ones) because they were on Thurs/Fri and she claimed she "usually gets migraines lately" on thursdays and fridays and would be out sick.

So today, I see this jackass parking in Visitor Parking. The main allure of visitor parking is that it is closest to the building.

It is however reserved for ...visitors, and some days we have a lot, including clients, who need this parking. The one time I parked there years ago, I got an email asking me to move.

She's not pregnant or disabled (there's parking for both)...she is just skirting the rules, again.

Have reported it, but she'll probably get away with it as usual...

shining like national dog shit (Neanderthal), Thursday, 11 August 2011 13:12 (twelve years ago) link

Guess I'm just gonna have to eat more quiet-assed foods like yogurt.

jon/via/chia/pet 2.0 (kkvgz), Thursday, 11 August 2011 13:19 (twelve years ago) link

ugh this coworker of mine eats yogurt all the time, and the spoon hits his teeth every once in a while and it's like CLACK CLACK CLACK CLACKITY CLACK CLACK.

and you are a part of everything and everything is like melting (ytth), Thursday, 11 August 2011 14:24 (twelve years ago) link

you guys all seem to want to work in an office of people starving to death (except Neanderthal who has a legit beef).

karma's ruthless invisible (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 11 August 2011 17:55 (twelve years ago) link

you're at a place where you spend at least 1/3 of your day there - people are going to eat. sometimes at their desk. get an ipod of ear plugs or something!

karma's ruthless invisible (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 11 August 2011 17:57 (twelve years ago) link

(except the popcorn 18 times a day, that would drive me crazy too)

karma's ruthless invisible (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 11 August 2011 17:57 (twelve years ago) link

Uh, actually most offices have, or should have, a completely dedicated room for eating! My point is that I shouldn't have to listen to your disgusting eating noises when I'm in the middle of a conference call that may already be hard to hear! If your office provides you with a breakroom or place to eat, use it! I never eat at my desk, ever.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Thursday, 11 August 2011 18:31 (twelve years ago) link

i usually do. but i'm usually super busy. and don't you have boardrooms for things like conference calls? (tho i can see that being annoying if you're forced to do a call from yr desk).

karma's ruthless invisible (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 11 August 2011 18:53 (twelve years ago) link

We have two conference rooms, but they are nearly constantly booked (the partners like to use them as default offices, which is fair enough as we've got an open office plan with all half-height cubicles for everyone). But that's also the problem, since we don't even have half-height cubicles (pretty standard practice for architects), noise carries very easily.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Thursday, 11 August 2011 18:56 (twelve years ago) link

I do not have a "place to eat". Most people in my office have doors though, which probably work well for privacy and soundproofing, should they feel compelled by the crunching of my capsicum.

kkvgz, Thursday, 11 August 2011 19:02 (twelve years ago) link

you guys all seem to want to work in an office of people starving to death (except Neanderthal who has a legit beef).
plenty of people in my office manage to snack or eat meals in the office without making noises like a starved spaniel.

jon, whenever we have conference calls the host is always really strict about everyone who's not currently speaking muting their line - it's a pretty bad line.

gyac, Thursday, 11 August 2011 19:54 (twelve years ago) link

corn nuts help with crunching yrou coworkers to death

I love obscure members of the Athrotheiria mammal genus and... (Latham Green), Thursday, 11 August 2011 20:17 (twelve years ago) link

i have not worked in an office with a dedicated place to eat since 2006.
i currently work in an open office where people eat lunch and there's never a problem. which is to say, it's not types of food that are the issue, it's the people eating them and your reaction/relationship to their idiosyncrasies. a different office won't solve that. if they eat their apples in another room, something else they do will probably end up making you irate at some point.

tehresa, Thursday, 11 August 2011 22:37 (twelve years ago) link

except for the popcorn.

tehresa, Thursday, 11 August 2011 22:37 (twelve years ago) link

truth bomb

xp truth bomb 2

L.P. Hovercraft (WmC), Thursday, 11 August 2011 22:38 (twelve years ago) link

someone I work with totally ripped a fart near the fridge and left me to stew in it today....will not let this go unpunished

shining like national dog shit (Neanderthal), Thursday, 11 August 2011 22:39 (twelve years ago) link

One of the partners shits all over. one of the other partners cleans it up. Cycle of life.

weakness for Cinnabon; rampant heterosexuality (Je55e), Friday, 12 August 2011 00:15 (twelve years ago) link

He shits all. Over.

weakness for Cinnabon; rampant heterosexuality (Je55e), Friday, 12 August 2011 00:15 (twelve years ago) link

And you can see that he has swiped at it halfheartedly, but there it still is. All over.

weakness for Cinnabon; rampant heterosexuality (Je55e), Friday, 12 August 2011 00:17 (twelve years ago) link

Eh I dont begrudge anyone eatin' at their desk, I just know certain sounds annoy me. Not going to make a big deal out of it though. I'm sure I am equally annoying the way I mutter to myself all the live-long day.

Later, she rejected meeting invites (future-dated ones) because they were on Thurs/Fri and she claimed she "usually gets migraines lately" on thursdays and fridays and would be out sick.

This woman is completely taking the piss, right? "I will be sick on thursdays"??? WTF?!

Rameses Street (Trayce), Friday, 12 August 2011 00:25 (twelve years ago) link

i was kidding about the yogurt

and you are a part of everything and everything is like melting (ytth), Friday, 12 August 2011 02:20 (twelve years ago) link

Trayce, yea, seriously. she got one of my co-workers so angry that she basically crusaded to go to her manager multiple times to try to get her disciplined...

shining like national dog shit (Neanderthal), Friday, 12 August 2011 02:22 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah I'm sorry but baldly saying "I get sick on thursdays and fridays" is just ... I dont know.

Rameses Street (Trayce), Friday, 12 August 2011 02:22 (twelve years ago) link

a lie!

shining like national dog shit (Neanderthal), Friday, 12 August 2011 02:30 (twelve years ago) link

I think the supervisor that lets her get away with that horrible lie is ever worse than she is, tbf. I have really low tolerance for managers that let people get away with that shit because it only reinforces unprofessional behavior.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Friday, 12 August 2011 03:01 (twelve years ago) link

my old mgr used to refuse to schedule mtgs on certain days because she knew she was going to be 'sick'

tehresa, Friday, 12 August 2011 03:27 (twelve years ago) link

xpost well, while I love my company, one thing it struggles with is accountability. people absolutely have to shit the bed to get either disciplined or terminated.

fortunately, my department doesn't have this problem, as our leader is tough as nails (but also fair), but this lady is in a department notorious for being wishy-washy when it comes to discipline.

shining like national dog shit (Neanderthal), Friday, 12 August 2011 03:28 (twelve years ago) link

it's like people forgot the art of faking illness and now are pre-planning them

shining like national dog shit (Neanderthal), Friday, 12 August 2011 03:28 (twelve years ago) link

several ppl would, in fact, call in sick with headaches, and no one ever said a thing about it. made me so angry bc I am too good a person to do that.

tehresa, Friday, 12 August 2011 03:29 (twelve years ago) link

There is a guy I work with that calls off of work a LOT, as in like four or five times a month, but the funny thing is its because there is always some sort of "emergency" at his apartment. I didn't really think too much of it until I started talking to some coworkers that have worked with him for a long time and they told me that he always has "emergencies" and they actually started keeping a tally of them. I kid you not, in the past three years his apartment has flooded four times, lost power eleven times, been without heat seventeen times, or had some sort of unspecified emergency about twelve times. Time for him to get a new apartment, imho.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Friday, 12 August 2011 03:43 (twelve years ago) link

I eat crunchy apples, just finished one. Sorry world.

I do sometimes acknowledge that an apple is particularly crunchy and apologise for the noise - no-one seems to mind too much but for all I know they're on their wee piece of Internet right now complaining about me.

I think of the apple crunching as reward for putting up with 10-20 hours of golf chat every week. Dudes play a round for four hours on a Sunday and are still talking about it on Wednesday.

the other onimo that runs the laboured dn (onimo), Friday, 12 August 2011 11:09 (twelve years ago) link

I just ate a handful of sugarsnap peas.

kkvgz, Friday, 12 August 2011 11:31 (twelve years ago) link

I kid you not, in the past three years his apartment has flooded four times, lost power eleven times, been without heat seventeen times, or had some sort of unspecified emergency about twelve times

Sometimes when I've been running really late for work I start mentally inventing some home emergency to lie about. Luckily every time this has happened I have been the first person in the office anyway and so not embarrassed myself.

My new officemate has an unspecified autism spectrum disorder so I've been trying very hard not to complain about him on this thread - poor form given the title - but he talks to himself all day and slurps constantly on drinks or pen lids and I find it really quite hard to work with him a metre behind me. Think I am just unusually unable to filter out unwanted noises though - which, ironically enough, is a symptom of ASDs.

(He also inhibits my ILXing as he likes to stare at my screen and read words off it out loud, and once as I frantically alt-tabbed away from my text-mode browser he asked what the black window with coloured text was, and I lied that it was a work-related script, and then he listed every work script he'd ever seen and what colours it used and seemed concerned that he must be missing one. Damn my stupid neurotypical dependence on little white lies.)

the ascent of nyan (a passing spacecadet), Friday, 12 August 2011 12:07 (twelve years ago) link

Sometimes when I've been running really late for work I start mentally inventing some home emergency to lie about. Luckily every time this has happened I have been the first person in the office anyway and so not embarrassed myself.

Difference is, you were actually planning to come to work and needed an excuse as to why you were running behind. This guy just doesn't come in at all that day.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Friday, 12 August 2011 14:08 (twelve years ago) link

I like to suddenly scream out "REFLECTIONS OF A SNEAKY AIRPORT FLOOR LICKER" all day

I love obscure members of the Athrotheiria mammal genus and... (Latham Green), Friday, 12 August 2011 19:34 (twelve years ago) link

So a coworker sent out an email this morning politely requesting that we refrain from cooking popcorn in the microwave because it gives her headaches. Popcorn girl fired back a doozy of a response about it being "unfair" and, I shit you not, "unconstitutional" for any of us to "deny her dietary preferences". Which was made even more lolworthy considering the initial email was not at all specific and addressed to the office in general.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 18:55 (twelve years ago) link

It's all right there in the 9th Amendment. How can everyone else not see it?

L.P. Hovercraft (WmC), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 18:59 (twelve years ago) link

Oh shit, get your own popcorn out, it's ENTITLEMENT BATTLE ROYAL.

(FYI the headache sufferer will prevail because the co-worker would also be within her rights to ask co-workers to refrain from exposing her to nut allergy triggers)

robin hoodie (suzy), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 19:02 (twelve years ago) link

Exactly, this should be fun. I'm waiting for round three.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 19:04 (twelve years ago) link

Fucking popcorn lady needs to die.

all microwaves must be destroyed (captain rosie), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 19:10 (twelve years ago) link

There'll be blood in Lake Michigan by Friday.

L.P. Hovercraft (WmC), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 19:14 (twelve years ago) link

'James while John had had had had had had had had had had had a better effect on the teacher!"

I love obscure members of the Athrotheiria mammal genus and... (Latham Green), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 19:20 (twelve years ago) link

jvc, I hope you've planned how to contribute to this battle.

Do you know the headache-sufferer? I mean, your co-workers have to discuss this problem, right?

Man, I love it when people claim shit is unconstitutional. I'm hoping for a plea of "freedom of expression" through the medium of popcorn.

weakness for Cinnabon; rampant heterosexuality (Je55e), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 19:25 (twelve years ago) link

lol - the time honoured workplace tradition of fanning the flames.

one skill I have yet to master is writing emails that immediately take up the offensive position even if there was no conflict preceding your message.

bnw, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 21:07 (twelve years ago) link

Do you know the headache-sufferer?

I do, and she is a really great co-worker and one of the least complainy type people I've ever worked with. There has been no further updates, so I'm wondering if HR or a partner stepped in. Or maybe its just simmering and we'll be treated to a full-blown microwave popcorn related freak-out that culminates in something flying out of a window.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 21:24 (twelve years ago) link

Do you think she really gets headaches or is she just tired of it like you.

Who is fanning the flames? I mean, I am, in spirit, but I think that co-worker and jvc should respectfully but firmly stand up to the popcorn fiend.

weakness for Cinnabon; rampant heterosexuality (Je55e), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 22:26 (twelve years ago) link

I've heard of dietary requirements and pesky food and chemical allergies but sheesh....I can't stand these litigious types. I mean I have a relative with serious (and sometimes downright annoying) food allergies but not to the point of driving people NUTS.

Like I said, someone has a psychological problem and it should be dealt with gently at first.

ReRecorded, ReMastered (Mount Cleaners), Wednesday, 17 August 2011 00:20 (twelve years ago) link

full-blown microwave popcorn related freak-out that culminates in something flying out of a window.

It should be the microwave itself imo

Rameses Street (Trayce), Wednesday, 17 August 2011 00:43 (twelve years ago) link

would like to see the full text of the email, actually.

fields of salmon, Wednesday, 17 August 2011 05:30 (twelve years ago) link

I do love the idea of antipopcornism being Unconstitutional.

Rameses Street (Trayce), Wednesday, 17 August 2011 06:07 (twelve years ago) link

Thank God for jvc and coworkers that the USA has not adopted the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. Eleanor Roosevelt was overreaching when she insisted on smelly snacks being a natural right.

weakness for Cinnabon; rampant heterosexuality (Je55e), Wednesday, 17 August 2011 14:00 (twelve years ago) link

why the fuck must everyone blabber outside my office door

I love obscure members of the Athrotheiria mammal genus and... (Latham Green), Wednesday, 17 August 2011 14:08 (twelve years ago) link

The partner who shits everywhere also can't make coffee. Every time he makes the coffee, the filter collapses and there the coffee is full of grounds. I don't understand why this happens - it's not complicated.

weakness for Cinnabon; rampant heterosexuality (Je55e), Wednesday, 17 August 2011 15:14 (twelve years ago) link

It's his constitutional right to make shit coffee, STALIN.

Mark C, Wednesday, 17 August 2011 15:31 (twelve years ago) link

Why isn't this thread on 77? I wouldn't say anything that could be found on the internet, but still.

weakness for Cinnabon; rampant heterosexuality (Je55e), Wednesday, 17 August 2011 18:31 (twelve years ago) link

i bring my own thermos - I am above these simple muck drinkers, reeking in their own filth!

I love obscure members of the Athrotheiria mammal genus and... (Latham Green), Wednesday, 17 August 2011 18:49 (twelve years ago) link

I have things to say about things but I can't say them here. This is a problem for me.

weakness for Cinnabon; rampant heterosexuality (Je55e), Wednesday, 17 August 2011 18:50 (twelve years ago) link

just think them at us

I love obscure members of the Athrotheiria mammal genus and... (Latham Green), Wednesday, 17 August 2011 19:10 (twelve years ago) link

oh i have been

weakness for Cinnabon; rampant heterosexuality (Je55e), Wednesday, 17 August 2011 19:11 (twelve years ago) link

Je55e, go ahead and start privacy-protected co-worker bitching thread on 77 to go along with this one!

L.P. Hovercraft (WmC), Wednesday, 17 August 2011 19:35 (twelve years ago) link

There's that 'slowly retail will kill you' one

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Wednesday, 17 August 2011 19:50 (twelve years ago) link

or you could come up with a genius impossible-to-trace internet persona.
thermo thinwall is taken.

xpost

karma's ruthless invisible (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 17 August 2011 19:57 (twelve years ago) link

Haha well, I went from Jesse to Je55e, but I'm worried that that code could be broken.

My secret anecdotes aren't really that interesting, but I want to bitch. I'm bitching via email instead.

weakness for Cinnabon; rampant heterosexuality (Je55e), Wednesday, 17 August 2011 21:41 (twelve years ago) link

Either stop sucking your fucking teeth and making stupid clicky noises, or visit the fucking dentist, for fuck's fucking sake.

― James Mitchell, Monday, 11 October 2010 09:11 (10 months ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Ten months of this. Now has also picked up an equally annoying habit of rapping his knuckles on his desk every time he touches his mouse and cooks a disgusting set of rank-smelling homemade sandwiches in the microwave behind me every day at 2om.

James Mitchell, Thursday, 25 August 2011 13:07 (twelve years ago) link

Seriously, I don't know why or how his mouth is making this noise every 30 seconds.

James Mitchell, Thursday, 25 August 2011 13:27 (twelve years ago) link

i'm kind of curious, i don't really know what sucking your teeth would involve or sound or look like. i'm imagining a relation to that thing old people do where it looks like they're chewing when they're not. whatever that is.

Merdeyeux, Thursday, 25 August 2011 13:31 (twelve years ago) link

dentures?

karma's ruthless invisible (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 25 August 2011 13:33 (twelve years ago) link

It's a bit like the noise made when you're sucking on a boiled sweet and moving it around inside your mouth, but without the boiled sweet.

James Mitchell, Thursday, 25 August 2011 13:45 (twelve years ago) link

How's the popcorn sitch, jvc??

weakness for Cinnabon; rampant heterosexuality (Je55e), Thursday, 25 August 2011 14:40 (twelve years ago) link

^^^this is important

quincie, Thursday, 25 August 2011 14:55 (twelve years ago) link

I think he said she's on vacation?

L.P. Hovercraft (WmC), Thursday, 25 August 2011 15:02 (twelve years ago) link

Oh, I guess I missed that.

My boss just popped a bag of popcorn. But that's fine b/c a) she very rarely does that and b) I have anosmia, so she could slow roast pig manure and I wouldn't know the difference.

weakness for Cinnabon; rampant heterosexuality (Je55e), Thursday, 25 August 2011 15:41 (twelve years ago) link

did you just put a shower head on full over the yoilet or did you pee?

The Golden Vagina Shines for You and Your Lucky Day (Latham Green), Thursday, 25 August 2011 15:47 (twelve years ago) link

Email to office reminding people to wash dishes, etc... From the person who least frequently washes dishes...

tehresa, Thursday, 25 August 2011 17:15 (twelve years ago) link

use paper plates duh!

The Golden Vagina Shines for You and Your Lucky Day (Latham Green), Thursday, 25 August 2011 17:17 (twelve years ago) link

The popcorn girl is obviously a total idiot; but it can't be overlooked that "the smell of popcorn gives me headaches" is some fucking straight-no-chaser liar liar bullshit.

schmendrick lamar (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 25 August 2011 17:19 (twelve years ago) link

what about kettle corn

The Golden Vagina Shines for You and Your Lucky Day (Latham Green), Thursday, 25 August 2011 17:20 (twelve years ago) link

reminds me of the girl in my senior class who had terrible body odor, so one of my classmates had his mother report to the administration that her stink was giving him asthma attacks

schmendrick lamar (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 25 August 2011 17:21 (twelve years ago) link

why doesn't she just pop a ton of corn at home and bring it to work in bags?

kate78, Thursday, 25 August 2011 18:04 (twelve years ago) link

Because cold popcorn tastes awful?

Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Thursday, 25 August 2011 18:26 (twelve years ago) link

no, i'm pretty sure that if i had to smell burnt popcorn every day, i'd have headaches, too.

tehresa, Thursday, 25 August 2011 22:06 (twelve years ago) link

seems like this thread has been talking abt popcorn for circa a year and a half, that ain't natural

zvookster, Friday, 26 August 2011 05:28 (twelve years ago) link

Jvc has abandoned us. Or he's in the ICU, being treated for acute popcorn poisoning.

weakness for Cinnabon; rampant heterosexuality (Je55e), Friday, 26 August 2011 10:46 (twelve years ago) link

the dreaded popcorn lung

kate78, Friday, 26 August 2011 10:47 (twelve years ago) link

My coworker has been talking to himself all morning (as he does) and just announced "talking to a brick wall."

the ascent of nyan (a passing spacecadet), Friday, 26 August 2011 11:03 (twelve years ago) link

Unfortunately there's nothing new to report, never heard any further word from either supposed headache victim or popcorn lung sufferer.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Friday, 26 August 2011 14:12 (twelve years ago) link

Is she still popping corn?

weakness for Cinnabon; rampant heterosexuality (Je55e), Friday, 26 August 2011 14:12 (twelve years ago) link

imo you gotta start eating cabbage and beans for breakfast everyday, move your desk closer to hers, and when she starts complaining about the headaches your flatulence is giving her, start yelling 'IT'S MY GODDAMN CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT TO FART WHERE I LIKE'.

just1n3, Friday, 26 August 2011 14:15 (twelve years ago) link

lol ^^^

This week she's backed down to only once a day, thankfully.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Friday, 26 August 2011 14:16 (twelve years ago) link

the worst is when you put the unpopped kernals IN your lungs and then go through security at the airport and you get hyperpneumopopcornia

Splendid Curving Oasis of Ivory (Latham Green), Friday, 26 August 2011 14:29 (twelve years ago) link

Okay, popcorn girl has instantly been knocked off the top of my most annoying list and replaced by whomever decided to heat up a foul-smelling fish meal in the microwave. Who does that? It smells like death in here now.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Monday, 29 August 2011 17:08 (twelve years ago) link

Maybe it's her trying to stop being annoying, be careful what you wish for and all that?

Imagineering since 1850 (captain rosie), Monday, 29 August 2011 17:33 (twelve years ago) link

jon, the popcorn girl in our office microwaved fish on friday, which she helpfully and apologetically explained to my boss that she tried to cover up the smell in the kitchen by spraying room deoderizer. I declined to go check it out.

kkvgz, Monday, 29 August 2011 19:13 (twelve years ago) link

No, this wasn't the same girl actually.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Monday, 29 August 2011 19:17 (twelve years ago) link

deodorizer

kkvgz, Monday, 29 August 2011 19:22 (twelve years ago) link

Hey if you're printing a 30-page double-sided document that for some reason slows the printer to an almost complete standstill, I appreciate your initiative in printing it on another printer. I appreciate slightly less your leaving the original one still working away and then SENDING IT AGAIN and me having to point out to you about three times that it might be helpful for you to delete it from your print queue so the 50,000 other documents queued up for the past hour can be printed sometime this month.

kinder, Tuesday, 30 August 2011 00:38 (twelve years ago) link

- Guy breathing like he's on a ventilator.

- Talking lyrics guy is at it again, doing Shatneresque renditions of Bowie songs.

- Guy who sends me emails then follows them up the office to say "did you get my email?"

Frimpong iddle I po (onimo), Tuesday, 30 August 2011 11:55 (twelve years ago) link

Its always amusing when you know your boss is slacking off so you can just be like "right then, me as well" and head to ILE

Splendid Curving Oasis of Ivory (Latham Green), Tuesday, 30 August 2011 13:01 (twelve years ago) link

Ugh STOP RUBBING PERFUME ON YOURSELF 20 TIMES A DAY FOR THE LOVE OF GOD.

Silent Hedgehogs (Trayce), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 02:01 (twelve years ago) link

doing Shatneresque renditions of Bowie songs.

^hero

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 02:44 (twelve years ago) link

That reminds me, I wonder what ever became of Steve.n 's odd tourrettic singing workmate?

Silent Hedgehogs (Trayce), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 03:31 (twelve years ago) link

Steve now has a cushy job and gets to work from home, so the only person singing badly at his workplace is himself.

emil.y, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 03:33 (twelve years ago) link

sweet

vinyl cut bro (electricsound), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 03:38 (twelve years ago) link

though i always thought he had a lovely voice

vinyl cut bro (electricsound), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 03:38 (twelve years ago) link

Would that I could work from home. Then I could post on here and bitch about myself.

Silent Hedgehogs (Trayce), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 03:58 (twelve years ago) link

I don't know why this bugs me, but it does: The associate atty. at my office brings in some pretty nice-looking lunches - homemade pasta and rice dishes, leftovers from good restaurants - but he never eats 9 out of 10 of them. Instead he goes to Jimmy John's or the so-so cafe down the street for sandwiches (and he always gets exactly the same things: from JJ, the #2, which is roast beef, and from the cafe, a turkey and emmenthal cheese sandwich; these selections never ever vary, which annoys me too). I think part of what bugs me is that his fiancee is a chef, and I'm guessing she put together some pretty rad dishes, which he eschews for fucking mundane subs. Also, he is pretty narrow-visioned (can't think of a word for it) and I feel like he auto-pilots right past the fridge and to his subs.

His habits in no way harm me, but they're still annoying.

weakness for Cinnabon; rampant heterosexuality (Je55e), Thursday, 1 September 2011 21:38 (twelve years ago) link

can you eat his lunches for him?

rude ragga beats from the F. U. Schnickens (sic), Thursday, 1 September 2011 22:15 (twelve years ago) link

he's narrow-visioned = much easier to pull a mission-impossible style tupperwear identity-swap heist caper type thing

mark s, Thursday, 1 September 2011 22:18 (twelve years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Girl down the hall with a Kill Bill Daryl Hannah whistling ringtone cranked up full blast.

rustic italian flatbread, Monday, 19 September 2011 14:52 (twelve years ago) link

Teeth-noise knuckle-rapping dude has boiled some soy sauce for his lunch in the kitchen area four feet behind my desk. Forty five minutes into a particularly smelly spate of mouth noises and desk tapping.

James Mitchell, Thursday, 22 September 2011 13:46 (twelve years ago) link

I need help. There is a disgusting savage / fat ugly guy / ogre blasting music so bad I can't even think. I have developed the patience to suffer in silence for moderate amounts of time in special occasions but this behavior is getting more frequent and arbitrary. I already talked to my nearest coworker about the situation and he said that I should be super polite to him because he gets angry very easily but I'm afraid I won't be able to contain my utmost contempt thus making the situation even worse. It's a bro office, I can't go directly to the boss without looking like a complete homo.

wolves lacan, Thursday, 29 September 2011 19:37 (twelve years ago) link

Man thats a shame that your boss might think you like to have sex with other men.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Thursday, 29 September 2011 19:40 (twelve years ago) link

headphones/earplugs.

kate78, Thursday, 29 September 2011 19:41 (twelve years ago) link

I try v hard to be polite to people at all times and the annoying co-worker is not a bad person, this is just days and days of frustration talking.

wolves lacan, Thursday, 29 September 2011 19:42 (twelve years ago) link

Is the problem the volume or his taste in music? I'm sorry his fatness and ugliness makes it worse for you.

Antonio Carlos Broheem (WmC), Thursday, 29 September 2011 19:43 (twelve years ago) link

it was sad he suffered in silence for moderate amounts of time in special occasions

Octavia Butler's gonna be piiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiised (Laurel), Thursday, 29 September 2011 19:48 (twelve years ago) link

It's office politics funny guy N.1 I have to choose my battles carefully. Already did the headphones thing and it didn't work, earplugs = even worse homo. Antonio I love fat ugly people as long as they don't push their ugly taste in my direction. I don't play Pan Sonic at full volume after coffee I shouldn't have to deal with this bullshit.

wolves lacan, Thursday, 29 September 2011 19:51 (twelve years ago) link

Maybe he suffers in silence about having to work with a dude who is casually homophobic.

Je55e, Thursday, 29 September 2011 19:52 (twelve years ago) link

I can't say I've seen a higher proportion of gay people wearing earplugs, but ymmv at your office.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Thursday, 29 September 2011 19:53 (twelve years ago) link

My post was xposted over the "even worse homo" post. I'll just be direct: using "homo" as a derogatory term is offensive, and your repeated use of it despite being subtly called out over it is branding you as an asshole. Also, what WmC said re his being fat and ugly.

Je55e, Thursday, 29 September 2011 19:56 (twelve years ago) link

I'm using brospeak, I will stop ok? I also said I'm writing like an asshole because of frustration. Earplugs are not fun and since I don't work in a factory, I shouldn't have to use them.

wolves lacan, Thursday, 29 September 2011 20:05 (twelve years ago) link

and where do you find earplugs that fit wolf ears anyway???

Mr. Que, Thursday, 29 September 2011 20:08 (twelve years ago) link

If it's such a bro office, just say "hey bro, could you turn that shit down." But don't put a rising inflection on the end, let him know you're telling, not asking. Then beat him down till he's on his knees, spitting blood.

Antonio Carlos Broheem (WmC), Thursday, 29 September 2011 20:11 (twelve years ago) link

calling HIM a homo might not hurt, since it's a bro office and all.

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Thursday, 29 September 2011 20:20 (twelve years ago) link

Re: "bro office" I'm picturing a bunch of dudes in suits and backwards baseball caps in their cubicles, listening to DMB bootlegs before breaking for some Sierra Nevada and foosball.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Thursday, 29 September 2011 20:35 (twelve years ago) link

oh god. but probably.

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Thursday, 29 September 2011 20:37 (twelve years ago) link

"Hey bro, I just TOTALLY closed that sale bro!"

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Thursday, 29 September 2011 20:38 (twelve years ago) link

:: turns Throwing Copper up loud enough to rattle monitor ::

Antonio Carlos Broheem (WmC), Thursday, 29 September 2011 20:41 (twelve years ago) link

It's sad, he was a brogre. And wolves lacan was a bromo.

Je55e, Thursday, 29 September 2011 20:48 (twelve years ago) link

You guys just don't get it do you.

It's OK because thanks to your pathetic zings I know what's the problem and what to do.

wolves lacan, Thursday, 29 September 2011 21:10 (twelve years ago) link

No, I'm pretty sure we got that you're a casual homophobe.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Thursday, 29 September 2011 21:11 (twelve years ago) link

^^ OTM

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Thursday, 29 September 2011 21:11 (twelve years ago) link

Whoa I can see you giving yourself a patch on the back after exposing such a horrible casual homophobe sales guy for the entire world to see, nice work dude!

wolves lacan, Thursday, 29 September 2011 21:30 (twelve years ago) link

This patch, iirc:

http://battlefieldmilitary.com/avpane66.jpg

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Thursday, 29 September 2011 21:31 (twelve years ago) link

thanks to your pathetic zings I know what's the problem and what to do.

Glad we could help! That's what we're here for.

Antonio Carlos Broheem (WmC), Thursday, 29 September 2011 21:32 (twelve years ago) link

I'm using brospeak, I will stop ok?
I'm using brospeak, I will stop ok?
I'm using brospeak, I will stop ok?
I'm using brospeak, I will stop ok?
I'm using brospeak, I will stop ok?
I'm using brospeak, I will stop ok?
I'm using brospeak, I will stop ok?
I'm using brospeak, I will stop ok?
I'm using brospeak, I will stop ok?
I'm using brospeak, I will stop ok?

Young Swell (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 29 September 2011 21:43 (twelve years ago) link

earplugs = even worse homo. Antonio I love fat ugly people
earplugs = even worse homo. Antonio I love fat ugly people
earplugs = even worse homo. Antonio I love fat ugly people
earplugs = even worse homo. Antonio I love fat ugly people
earplugs = even worse homo. Antonio I love fat ugly people
earplugs = even worse homo. Antonio I love fat ugly people
earplugs = even worse homo. Antonio I love fat ugly people
earplugs = even worse homo. Antonio I love fat ugly people
earplugs = even worse homo. Antonio I love fat ugly people
earplugs = even worse homo. Antonio I love fat ugly people

Young Swell (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 29 September 2011 21:46 (twelve years ago) link

Homosexuality is the best all-around cover an agent ever had.

rustic italian flatbread, Thursday, 29 September 2011 22:36 (twelve years ago) link

(lol at Le Bateau Ivre)

I'm sorry I tend to forget that as a gay man I am supposed to be Harvey Milk 24/7 and turn every single daily insignificant annoyance into the ultimate battle for civil rights, mostly out of sheer exhaustion but more because of fear of a limitless capacity for inflicting cruelty on unsuspecting plebs, but I can see through your commments and I will back off with the metalevels / swiftly deal with the DISGUSTING SAVAGE AND FAT UGLY HOMOPHOBIC GUY in the way he deserves to be treated.

wolves lacan, Thursday, 29 September 2011 23:04 (twelve years ago) link

WTF is even going on here.

Silent Hedgehogs (Trayce), Thursday, 29 September 2011 23:42 (twelve years ago) link

We just got done exposing a horrible casual homophobe sales guy. Once we're done with the sales department we'll be moving on to accounting and legal.

wolves l - It doesn't bother me when other gay guys the the word homo (and others like it) in a tongue-in-cheek way, but b/c there wasn't any indication that you were using it with irony, I took it at face value. It would have irked me slightly less if I had known that you were gay, but since I didn't recognize your name, and you aren't listed on the national registry, I figured you were a hetero bro.

Je55e, Friday, 30 September 2011 01:31 (twelve years ago) link

Girl down the hall with a Kill Bill Daryl Hannah whistling ringtone cranked up full blast.

Oh, so that's where one of my old co-workers went.

tokyo rosemary, Friday, 30 September 2011 03:13 (twelve years ago) link

and you aren't listed on the national registry

I KNEW IT!!

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Friday, 30 September 2011 13:14 (twelve years ago) link

The associate attorney is pissing me off. His job involves a lot of simple changes to documents - ridiculously simple changes like finding and replacing the word "Lessee" with "Smith," or copy/pasting boilerplate paragraph. This means that he should make it his fucking beeswax to be proficient in Word, but no.

Yesterday the dingbat edited a contract that the client needed first thing today. He emailed it to the client last night, and today the client had to interrupt his meeting with the other party to the contract b/c the signature page was completely unusable, and paragraph numbering was fucked up. Reasons for the problems:

- The signature lines were created using tables and started out looking like this

_________ ____________ _____________ ____________________
Date Gob Bluth President Bluth Enterprises

but he doesn't know how to use tables (I showed him and he said his usual, "Oh, I don't do that, I just use Tab"), so when he copied the correct names from a table in another document, he embedded the whole table within the first table so it was completely nonsensical, especially since he kept the different font and font size from the other document!

- He doesn't use automatic paragraph numbering, so again, when he copied language from another document and pasted it into the one he was working on, it was not indented correctly, it was improperly numbered, and again, it was a different font and font size.

His boss usually approves our work before we send it out, but b/c it was such a basic, idiot-proof task, he figured it would be OK to let him do it all by himself like a big boy.

Before I even took off my coat, my boss called and told me I had to fix the mess in a hurry. Really frustrating shit.

Je55e, Friday, 30 September 2011 16:14 (twelve years ago) link

Shut up. I know that the signature lines are fucked up above.

Je55e, Friday, 30 September 2011 16:18 (twelve years ago) link

It should be your fucking beeswax to be proficient in ilxor.

rustic italian flatbread, Friday, 30 September 2011 16:26 (twelve years ago) link

This guy also never fills the Brita pitcher.

He's generally a nice guy, but he's kind of a tool.

Je55e, Friday, 30 September 2011 16:28 (twelve years ago) link

Tired of having to correct the boss' spelling. I don't hate the guy but seeing some guy misspell at least five words in a two page mission statement makes me think it's time to look for a promotion or go back to working on my book proposal. I should have offered to write the damned thing myself but it is not in my job description. The guy makes twice as much as I do!

my dad had an admin asst who didn't know what tab was and would use the space bar to indent

tehresa, Friday, 30 September 2011 23:12 (twelve years ago) link

I was last to get a computer in grade nine and handed in a "double spaced" hand written essay, except I put two spaces between each word :(

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Saturday, 1 October 2011 01:08 (twelve years ago) link

Lol! Poor kid.

Je55e, Saturday, 1 October 2011 01:14 (twelve years ago) link

The teacher was nice about it, but it haunts me to this day. Heh.

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Saturday, 1 October 2011 17:31 (twelve years ago) link

don't joke with me that i'm a "suck-up" just because I was gracious to the department head. she gave me an actual great idea and i thanked her for it. i know there's a culture of not liking her and i know that she's sort of earned it, but

rustic italian flatbread, Friday, 14 October 2011 20:25 (twelve years ago) link

i'm not really one to say things I dont mean to people. being bitter isn't fun to me.

rustic italian flatbread, Friday, 14 October 2011 20:29 (twelve years ago) link

I get annoyed when coworkers "joke" about things like that. Monday I came in to work early, knowing I had a lot to do, getting in at about 7:15. I was the first person to get to the office and the next one in didn't get to the office until 8:50. At the end of the day, at 5:05, as I'm walking out the front door I get three different people going, "leaving already", "slacker", "what? don't want to work today?". Like, I get you think you're being funny, but its annoying.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Friday, 14 October 2011 20:30 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah, it both "har-de-har-har" kinda humor and it feels like it undermines your value, if you'reany kind of upstanding person in your professional life.

rustic italian flatbread, Friday, 14 October 2011 20:38 (twelve years ago) link

My supervisor is always doing shit like that, but it's "HEY, STOP SURFING PORN!" Yeah, thanks for that; you do know that people who overhear might not realize you're joking, right?

Tarfumes The Escape Goat, Friday, 14 October 2011 20:40 (twelve years ago) link

not that that's cool or anything but anyone who doesn't realize someone shouting "STOP SURFING PORN" is a joke should be fired immediately as they are patently too stupid to be effective at their jobs

do not wake the dragon (DJP), Friday, 14 October 2011 20:41 (twelve years ago) link

Oh, absolutely. And there are many, many such people here. The reactions would range from "He's surfing porn? That's unacceptable!" to "It sounds like a joke, but let's not take any chances."

Tarfumes The Escape Goat, Friday, 14 October 2011 20:44 (twelve years ago) link

the other thing that pisses me off about the situation is just that. there's this ongoing griping and bitterness about the dept. head, because she has fucked up a few things. there are a few people who privately grouse about her incompetence. but the thing is, she doesn't fuck up every day. she's pretty intelligent and well-versed in the industry. but the woman who accused me of being a suck-up regularly fucks things up. and I mean, we all fuck up sometimes. but i've never heard the department head talking shit behind her back. because that's a shitty way to behave if you're a goddamn grown-up with a job!

rustic italian flatbread, Friday, 14 October 2011 20:53 (twelve years ago) link

Any popcorn-lady updates?

Martyr McFly (WmC), Friday, 14 October 2011 21:06 (twelve years ago) link

(that's to jvc obv)

Martyr McFly (WmC), Friday, 14 October 2011 21:07 (twelve years ago) link

Nope, she's still been out on site visits, she's barely been in the office for more than an hour or two at a time for the past several months, which is A-OK by me.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Friday, 14 October 2011 21:11 (twelve years ago) link

our popcorn lady quit, but someone microwaved something that smelled like puke today.

rustic italian flatbread, Friday, 14 October 2011 21:14 (twelve years ago) link

Who the hell tries a handle on a toilet door when a) it clearly displays a red occupied indicator (this was not always the case but it has been fixed) and 2) someone is obviously inside using the hand drier!

antiautodefenestrationism (ledge), Wednesday, 26 October 2011 11:06 (twelve years ago) link

You know what's bad form? Submitting a request for me to change something on your report, and then bringing up the problem at the all-staff meeting half an hour later in front of everybody and making like you have had some unresolved longstanding grievance.

rustic italian flatbread, Wednesday, 26 October 2011 11:20 (twelve years ago) link

we have toilet door indicator problems here too, one of them is stuck halfway between the two. and, yes, people thump the door to see if it's locked*. they also push the other door to see if it's locked even though that has always had a working indicator.

* and it depresses me that in an office full of supposedly bright people they haven't worked out, after 2 years, that the slot in the bit of the lock that's outside will tell you at a glance.

koogs, Wednesday, 26 October 2011 13:07 (twelve years ago) link

Shitty co-workers cost me my job.

Despite 2 promotions, I was feeling underachieved about the job I had for two years (compensation, shitty boss, thick co-workers). I openly started to look elsewhere.

Instead, I got another promotion, that was to come with a substantial raise. I had to promise the boss that I'd stop looking for a new job, of course.

I got locked in an office with someone who was a remarkably poor trainer, and had a back-stabbing short temper when things were done improperly. And the shitty boss would chastise me for anything shitty office-mate said. Shitty boss was regularly found spying on co-workers, and now she began eavesdropping on my office, ear-to-the-wall style.

Time to get serious about getting a new job. ANY new job, as long as it had acceptable comp.

Got a new job in 3 weeks, and lied to the old boss about having to move out of state just to leave work on good terms.

It turned out to be from fire to frying pan -- which made me feel forced gratitude, for a period.

The new job had me locked in a room with a HORRIBLE Greenpoint hipster, who was convinced she was a superior human due to her cursory interest in anarchy -- and her mixed feelings about being from a well-to-do Korean family -- to the point of not saying hello, daily (much less, actually training me). I wonder how many ILXors know this wretched person...

She got an email from a former friend which stated "I don't want to know you because you're casually insulting and passive aggressive". The email failed to note "always contrarian", but it was still on-point. She was devastated for a 1/2 day, then returned to her m.o.

Also locked in a room with a COMPLETELY MANIC pretend-trophy wife (she was engaged to someone in professional sports), who's m.o. was to take control of any social situation, and offer laughs and smiles, despite endless loads of questionable behavior and severe mood swings.

Manic would often claim her behavior was due to "having not taken her medicine yet". The one time during a meeting I made a suggestion, she publicly lashed out at my phone demeanor (ironic, being that was the source of past promotions), stormed out of the room, and had to miss the next day, despite an important project she and I were to begin. She spent most work days online shopping, and seriously, sleeping in the office. Also, Manic coddled Bitchy Hipster, to ensure Manic's place professionally and socially, since Manic was relatively new, herself.

Any conversation or humor I offered either was met with great indifference -- so I just tried to take cues as to when to shut up, and when to lightly contribute. The judgements truly came as damned if you do, damned if you don't.

Within 2 months, I realized I was getting debilitating stress headaches the likes I had not had in 18 years, all from sustaining a bad scenario by going from the worst to really bad -- and now, they were getting in the way of my being productive and reliable.

Then the worst thing possible -- got a serious 9 day flu bug during this. Was forced to call in 3 days, demonstrating how unreliable I just might be.

So Manic decided I was the worst person on Earth, and lobbied to have me fired.

My final two days there, bitchy hipster proved she could be conversational and somewhat understanding, all due to knowing I was to be fired come Friday 5pm. Frankly, I don't think that reflects well on her. If you have the ability to connect, why don't you exercise that beyond a crisis state? Because I assure you, your faux politics, deliberately poor fashion sense, and co-opted music tastes do not make you superior. Not even desirable.

Happy to now be on unemployment spending time reassessing.

The payoff is while reflecting back at my successes before all of this, realizing I should never get myself into situations where disorganization meets micromanagement.

███★★★███ (PappaWheelie V), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 15:01 (twelve years ago) link

my coworker is supposed to come take my place in the library so i can go to lunch. this is supposed to happen at 1:30, which is already later than i would prefer to go to lunch. she typically doesn't come to replace me until 1:45 or 2:00. she also apparently doesn't answer the phone while she's sitting here so there are always voicemail messages when i get back. these are such tiny petty things that i don't want to take them to my boss or even confront her about them but it's annoying. she also wears a bluetooth headphone all day and takes personal calls on it at work. there have been times where i've been talking to her and she says something contextually weird and then later realize she was talking to someone on her headset.

congratulations (n/a), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 20:31 (twelve years ago) link

punch her in face

Not only dermatologists hate her (James Morrison), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 22:55 (twelve years ago) link

ok

congratulations (n/a), Wednesday, 2 November 2011 18:19 (twelve years ago) link

You can use unemployment situations to your advantage in these times, provided you have internet access. You can spend the large part of your day working on your job skills. When you are ready or able to return to the work force, you'll be more information literate than your peers!

Sometimes it's good to be away from a regular office routine so you have time to realize you're not the nutso co-worker!

What kind of sweatshops is PappaWheelie working in that continually lock him in rooms?

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Wednesday, 2 November 2011 20:27 (twelve years ago) link

thx for making my iPhone, PappaWheelie

he carried yellow flowers (DJP), Wednesday, 2 November 2011 20:27 (twelve years ago) link

My shitty Nokia must have been made by one of the other two.

asked Dermot O'Leary, but he couldn't help me either. They call me the (snoball), Wednesday, 2 November 2011 20:35 (twelve years ago) link

I now work in sweatpants.

███★★★███ (PappaWheelie V), Wednesday, 2 November 2011 20:52 (twelve years ago) link

lol

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 2 November 2011 21:02 (twelve years ago) link

Nick, that sounds like a situation that merits doing some about it.

But then, all jobs where I had very many coworkers were restaurants where confrontation is easier, and I have never worked in a normal office.

Still, what are your reasons for not talking to her about it and dealing with it further if necessary?

the Smurf who'll snatch your money (Je55e), Saturday, 5 November 2011 20:05 (twelve years ago) link

My coworker is always touching me to remove hairs and threads off my clothes. I'm getting a little creeped out.

tokyo rosemary, Tuesday, 8 November 2011 04:15 (twelve years ago) link

Unless your co-worker is a marmoset and you are a mastodon, then I'd suggest leaning away slightly, holding your palm up and saying 'Please', with a slight frown, is perfectly in order.

Fizzles the Chimp (GamalielRatsey), Tuesday, 8 November 2011 07:43 (twelve years ago) link

GAH! WHY DONT PEOPLE UNDERSTAND MY EMAILS I DO NOT SPEAK URDU.

Me: "this is what happened, see attached emails and quote from the sales guy and the customer"
My boss: "How were you told to change them from X to Y?
Is there a ticket or email trail – a quote that mentions the upgrade?"

...you mean other than the one I JUST SENT YOU!? *flails*

Trayce, Wednesday, 16 November 2011 02:04 (twelve years ago) link

Srsly this is why I DONT involve him in day to day shit because any time I do, he misreads/misunderstands things, but if I dont, he tells me off for not keeping him in the loop.

Trayce, Wednesday, 16 November 2011 02:07 (twelve years ago) link

my coworker is supposed to come take my place in the library so i can go to lunch. this is supposed to happen at 1:30, which is already later than i would prefer to go to lunch. she typically doesn't come to replace me until 1:45 or 2:00. she also apparently doesn't answer the phone while she's sitting here so there are always voicemail messages when i get back. these are such tiny petty things that i don't want to take them to my boss or even confront her about them but it's annoying. she also wears a bluetooth headphone all day and takes personal calls on it at work. there have been times where i've been talking to her and she says something contextually weird and then later realize she was talking to someone on her headset.

― congratulations (n/a), Tuesday, November 1, 2011 3:31 PM (2 weeks ago) Bookmark

this person got fired btw

congratulations (n/a), Wednesday, 16 November 2011 15:45 (twelve years ago) link

congratulations, n/a! ;D

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Wednesday, 16 November 2011 15:45 (twelve years ago) link

Ha!!!! Justice.

Are you hiring librarians? The Good Emily is looking.

They're coming to get you, (Jenny), Wednesday, 16 November 2011 16:40 (twelve years ago) link

My boss is generally cool and easygoing, but yesterday she used me as a human shield between her and a cranky passive-aggressive advertiser. I laid 1000 words of ultrapoliteness on the advertiser and then reminded her of my boss's cell # and direct email address. Hopefully they're wrapping up their three-month-long pas de deux today.

Steamtable Willie (WmC), Wednesday, 16 November 2011 16:47 (twelve years ago) link

There was just a screaming fight down the hall from our office.

They're coming to get you, (Jenny), Wednesday, 16 November 2011 17:26 (twelve years ago) link

laid 1000 words of ultrapoliteness on the advertiser and then reminded her of my boss's cell # and direct email address.

I tip my bonnnet to you, that is excellently played!

Trayce, Wednesday, 16 November 2011 21:01 (twelve years ago) link

I also Bcc'd the email to my boss! Sometimes I miss being in an office environment -- I think I'm pretty good at the social/political machinations.

Steamtable Willie (WmC), Wednesday, 16 November 2011 21:28 (twelve years ago) link

Oh even better! Mr Burns will hire you yet :)

Trayce, Wednesday, 16 November 2011 22:31 (twelve years ago) link

I don't like to celebrate firings, but I feel very strongly not-bad about n/a's coworker being canned.

the Smurf who'll snatch your money (Je55e), Thursday, 17 November 2011 03:41 (twelve years ago) link

two months pass...

ARGH.

I dunno if the fact I'm halfway through working my notice period has amplified how much this company annoys the shit out of me or if it really does have a policy of employing total cretins. Just wasted an hour manually deleting a bunch of clients from the website because apparently the automated system wasn't working (which isn't even my responsibility but the person who does look after it is fucking useless so management asked me to do it because I am actually capable of doing it) only to find out half of the clients are still live on the CRM system so it's not the automated system that doesn't work, it's the brain of the person who raised the issue in the first place.

I am about *this* close to just going "oh btw I don't feel very well I'm going home see ya have a nice weekend and go fuck yourself"

The Eyeball Of Hull (Colonel Poo), Friday, 20 January 2012 11:48 (twelve years ago) link

Suggestions for impossible to dispute mysterious illnesses that last a month and a half? Need a doctor's note though

The Eyeball Of Hull (Colonel Poo), Friday, 20 January 2012 11:49 (twelve years ago) link

Chronic insomnia? Sudden drastic appetite loss? Worked for me. You would need to be hospitalized for part of the time to get away with it.

Also, co-workers who never take vacation, who just sit at home during vacation and who think the only real vacation is sitting on some tropical beach are getting to be a real bummer.

New policy suggest that we give notice of where we are going when we take vacation of more than two days (how far, if we can be reached). I am going on vacation, I know I have to submit my notice...am I obligated to tell everyone where I am going?

I opted for just saying "Oh I don't feel very well, I'm going home, see you later" and walking out. Better than punching someone I guess.

Have seriously toyed with the idea of getting myself sacked but even though I have a concrete job offer, that could be withdrawn if the company I'm going to found out, for the obvious reason that I could pull the same shit when I eventually leave there.

Fuck a 3 month notice period basically.

The Eyeball Of Hull (Colonel Poo), Friday, 20 January 2012 13:03 (twelve years ago) link

Wait wait Mount Cleaners wait.

Your work makes you disclose where you are going when you take time off? Also, what's wrong with taking time off and not taking a trip?

If the policy just "suggests," then I think you don't have to disclose where you are going. That's just weird.

gonna give her the old fuquay-varina (Jenny), Friday, 20 January 2012 13:23 (twelve years ago) link

Nothing wrong with wanting to spend time with family or not having money to leave town but...I wonder what people are doing working in the arts without EVER wanting to leave town.

Your Dad Loved the Vietnam War (Mount Cleaners), Friday, 20 January 2012 13:34 (twelve years ago) link

People working in the arts can afford to leave town?

beachville, Friday, 20 January 2012 13:37 (twelve years ago) link

^This is my thought.

ENERGY FOOD (en i see kay), Friday, 20 January 2012 14:48 (twelve years ago) link

"apologies for any confusion caused" - non-apology from someone I work with in response to having mistakes pointed out. can't stand that passive-aggressive shit.

gyac, Friday, 20 January 2012 23:44 (twelve years ago) link

our office is over two floors, with a small wc on my level (upper) and bathrooms down below.when i moved up to this floor a few months back one of the ladies took me aside and explained rather genteely that 'we only use this floor for wee-wees and make-up' and 'we all know how boys are, hmm?' so, would i, bearing this in mind, take pains to respect this practice which, fair enough and a little o_Oily at the request, i have done.

but this morning somebody clearly broke rule number one about number ones, because she started dropping wrinklenosed hints around me about the 'disgusting smell' as she was putting her face on while the rest of us were busy housing the great and good of rural ireland. i was having a bit of a nightmarish morning as it was, numerous mishaps and administrative pratfalls by superiors with me as the arsecushion, so after the sixth or seventh scatalogical slander slung in my general direction across the heads of two other colleagues i'm afraid i put my third crying tenant of the day on hold and hissed at her-

"look, i didn't shit in your precious toilet"

the rest of the day passed in glorious silence, i'm hoping next week follows suit

(govtname)mac (darraghmac), Saturday, 21 January 2012 00:45 (twelve years ago) link

a) awesome
b) what exactly is the difference between a wc and a bathroom

mookieproof, Saturday, 21 January 2012 00:50 (twelve years ago) link

i dunno this is just a one-loo cubbyhole with a shelf and a mirror, possibly i picked wc cos it's the size of a closet

(govtname)mac (darraghmac), Saturday, 21 January 2012 00:53 (twelve years ago) link

That is pretty great.

gonna give her the old fuquay-varina (Jenny), Saturday, 21 January 2012 01:47 (twelve years ago) link

at any rate you should be dropping deuces HARDCORE. DAMMMNNN.

mookieproof, Saturday, 21 January 2012 01:58 (twelve years ago) link

So proud of you!!

just1n3, Saturday, 21 January 2012 02:15 (twelve years ago) link

One of our reps today approached me in the hallway and asked me if I had some documents saved. I asked why, since these are posted in a public database. She explained that someone on the team had just deleted the entire database, and that everything was lost, and there was a ticket out to fix it that had been out there since last Wednesday. So apparently major materials they needed to do their job on a daily basis, they'd been living without for 3 business days.

Of course, this made me wrinkle my eyebrow, because the company is well-aware of the stupid "accidental deleters" we have at this company and took great pains to ensure that it was next to impossible to do so. In fact, deleting such a database is a lengthy process. So of course, I investigate, and nothing of the sort is true -- a solitary document was deleted, which made the home page 'error out' when it loaded, but the documents were fine. In five minutes, I fixed the problem, and in 30, I readded the deleted page back.

Had any of them spoken up to the right people, this would have been a non-issue, but instead they actually did their jobs for three days without their reference materials, which means they could have been giving out all sorts of wrong information. Even important managers on the team didn't know this had happened because the idiots didn't speak up.

The 'work ticket' was never even worked on, and I told them to call them back and tell them "no thanks".

Neanderthal, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 01:03 (twelve years ago) link

blame kim dotcom

mookieproof, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 01:24 (twelve years ago) link

A coworker was just str8 braggin' about how he drinks an entire 8-pack of 20-ounce Cokes during every work day, as he was shoving multiple mini candybars in his mouth.

Not 10 minutes later he made an earnest, unironic comment about not understanding why he keeps gaining weight.

Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 19:02 (twelve years ago) link

Reminds me of this guy:

"I was telling my sixteen-year-old niece, I said "When you grow up, you can do anything you want. You can eat Gummi Bears and Mountain Dewbfor lunch every day, like I do. It's great!" Guy is 30 years old and has a beachball physique. He was trying to convince me to go try out a frozen yogurt stand for lunch.

― kkvgz, Friday, July 16, 2010 6:56 AM (1 year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

although as an update, he radically altered his diet and lost like 70 pounds and then I became the fattest guy in the office. : /

beachville, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 19:26 (twelve years ago) link

dear colleague who is simultaneously a grad student and soon to be PHD holder, please STOP making me the person to listen to your quest for a job, and especially not your stresses about your salary negotiations and naming figures that are perhaps twice as much as i'll ever make? all of it is SO MUCH MONEY so just be happy you're getting interviews and job offers and leave me alone

we are actually friends so perhaps she thinks that talking about shit like that is within bounds but really, kinda tactless i think

rayuela, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 20:15 (twelve years ago) link

Had any of them spoken up to the right people, this would have been a non-issue, but instead they actually did their jobs for three days without their reference material

ITYM "they didnt do a fucking thing for 3 days and no one noticed"

thanks to denial, I'm immortal! (Trayce), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 22:53 (twelve years ago) link

Honestly, I work with a bunch of lizards. If the temperature isn't exactly to their liking, they pull a face like they've just seen a turd and start whinging about how actually, they've got a genetic predisposition to being cold, or they're ill, or it messes with their immune system, or whatthefuckever. YOU DO NOT HAVE THE RIGHT TO CHANGE THE TEMPERATURE TO FIT YOUR WHIMS, ASSHOLE. Come on, put on a jumper ffs.

get ready for the banter (NotEnough), Thursday, 9 February 2012 10:04 (twelve years ago) link

I work with similar people. I'd rather be too cold than too warm; overly warm and I get sleepy.

gyac, Thursday, 9 February 2012 11:49 (twelve years ago) link

I actually wanted to mention that it's way too cold in here. Don't know how you guys can stand it.

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 9 February 2012 13:50 (twelve years ago) link

i'm pretty sure my coworkers complain on a thread on some other forum about how i always want it to be as cold as possible in the office.

how did we get here how? (ytth), Thursday, 9 February 2012 15:33 (twelve years ago) link

go on, speak in a slightly louder voice than is necessary so everyone across the office can hear you. What you are saying about '80s films/'90s indie/yourself is after all both of general interest and amusing enough for everybody in the office to want to hear.

Fizzles, Thursday, 9 February 2012 15:54 (twelve years ago) link

Let me preface this by saying that I have a sincere fondness for this coworker, mostly because he brings the unintentional LOLs to my workday in a major way. Anyway:

I rode the elevator three times with this coworker (going to work, going for coffee, going back to work after coffee). On the first trip, he told me a story. On the second trip he told a lawyer this story. On the third trip, he told an IT guy the story. Here is the story:

I was over by Yvette and Maude - just chit chatting, you know - and I said to them, "You're boring me. I'm going back to work."

carl agatha, Friday, 10 February 2012 16:08 (twelve years ago) link

I started the tell our office admin that I rode the elevator with Dingdong three times in an hour and each time he told this dumb story to a different person and she was like, "Oh, yeah, he told me that story yesterday."

carl agatha, Friday, 10 February 2012 16:09 (twelve years ago) link

So awesome. So many people in the world, all trying to get by in their own little way. This guy chit-chats with Yvette and Maude, tells them they're boring, and that's his story for two days!

beachville, Friday, 10 February 2012 16:17 (twelve years ago) link

ha ha!
and exactly how many people have you told *that* story to?!

xpost

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 10 February 2012 16:17 (twelve years ago) link

lol

The Austerity of PONIES (beachville), Friday, 10 February 2012 16:20 (twelve years ago) link

ha ha!
and exactly how many people have you told *that* story to?!

xpost

META ANECDOTE

But two coworkers plus ILX. Heh.

carl agatha, Friday, 10 February 2012 16:29 (twelve years ago) link

But to be fair, this coworkers' antics are one of my closest coworkers and my favorite topics of conversation so we get pretty excited when he does something new and noteworthy.

carl agatha, Friday, 10 February 2012 16:38 (twelve years ago) link

Not bitching, but this is weird: Our firm's main calendar has numerous entries like today's "L!nda bloodwork" and later in the week "Sh3rry Mammogram." We're supposed to write on the calendar when we're out of the office, but those details are way too much.

garbage corn fan (Je55e), Friday, 10 February 2012 17:32 (twelve years ago) link

or you can pretend those are their full names

tanuki, Friday, 10 February 2012 17:35 (twelve years ago) link

Or that they're stage names of a new medical-procedures-themed punk band.

Let A Man Come In And Do The Cop Porn (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 10 February 2012 18:31 (twelve years ago) link

Sh3rry is an older woman who seems very sweet. She has worked for various permutations of the firm's small town, downstate office for 20-some years. Sh3rry does or has done the following:

- Taken to writing entire emails in the subject line. Not only reasonable stuff like "Please call Joe" but also multi-sentence emails.

- Takes messages w/ only info that the caller volunteers b/c she doesn't "want to be rude" by asking too many questions (e.g. "May I tell him what the call is regarding?")

- Has two adopted Chinese children, but scornfully refers to other Asians "Those people." Also refers to parts of town as "too dark."

garbage corn fan (Je55e), Friday, 10 February 2012 18:45 (twelve years ago) link

- Taken to writing entire emails in the subject line. Not only reasonable stuff like "Please call Joe" but also multi-sentence emails.

this is amazing, it's like collect-calling someone and trying to get an entire message into the space where you're supposed to say who's calling.

congratulations (n/a), Friday, 10 February 2012 19:15 (twelve years ago) link

ha!

Jesse has shared some of this individual's actual phone messages with me and they are pretty amazing.

carl agatha, Friday, 10 February 2012 19:45 (twelve years ago) link

coworker (who is lazy, decitful,awful) has spent maybe a week telling everyone about her thumb, how sore it is, owwwwwww my thumb, what do you think's wrong with it (we all told her several days ago that it looked a little ingrown, maybe).

so she took two days off (even though we're currently insanely understaffed - lol public sector) with her ingrown thumbnail and came back with it rather comically bandaged and immediately launched into ooow my thumb i shouldn't reallly be back but i know how busy we are oooooow my thumb though i think i know now what a disabled person feels like (this to her harried coworker, whose 6 yr old's leg has been constantly breaking for the past 18 months due to a bone condition).

Response was "You're so unlucky, Mary, your poor thumb! And it the very first time you ever took it out out of your arse too"

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Friday, 10 February 2012 20:19 (twelve years ago) link

Here is a subject line only email from Sh3rry that Jesse gave me permission to share:

"DID i MAKE MYSELF CLEAR?? TtHE NAME IS [client name] "

carl agatha, Friday, 10 February 2012 20:28 (twelve years ago) link

He also emailed me to tell me that she "has been sending firm-wide emails each time the firm receives a Christmas card."

carl agatha, Friday, 10 February 2012 20:31 (twelve years ago) link

ha ha!

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 10 February 2012 20:33 (twelve years ago) link

lollll darragh

someone give that person a pay rise

(much love for Sh3rry too)

Schleimpilz im Labyrinth (a passing spacecadet), Friday, 10 February 2012 20:35 (twelve years ago) link

I found a whole transcribed phone message but there is too much detail to post it here. She did not include the person's last name, phone number, or the name of the company the person wants to sue, however, ending the transcription with "he might have said the company, but I didn't listen to the whole thing."

Darragh's coworker wins the snappy comeback award. Poor Mary.

carl agatha, Friday, 10 February 2012 20:40 (twelve years ago) link

"DID i MAKE MYSELF CLEAR?? TtHE NAME IS [client name] "

lolol - That's the one I was trying to remember. She wasn't being rude or pushy, she was just following up on an email she just sent, but she just sometimes accidentally hits caps lock.

garbage corn fan (Je55e), Friday, 10 February 2012 20:43 (twelve years ago) link

xpost to darraghmac's thumb, person (similarly duplicitous & lazy) said he had liver trouble, and came in one day with... do you remember those very slender, quite short radio walkman antennnae? Very thin meaningless wires? He had one of those coming out of his nose, taped to his neck, going down under his t-shirt. But unfortunately you could see when he was typing that it wasn't actually connected to anything, was just flapping loose. Unfortunately no responses as good as that one.

Fizzles, Friday, 10 February 2012 22:58 (twelve years ago) link

so the company i work for is split between two coasts, and the vp of sales (on the east coast) insists on holding a weekly meeting at 9AM eastern. people on the west coast have repeatedly asked him to move the meeting, since it really sucks to wake up at 5:30AM, but he refuses. his boss (the CEO) thinks this is completely reasonable, since we're all salary employees. ugh.

how did we get here how? (ytth), Saturday, 11 February 2012 04:02 (twelve years ago) link

Fuck that mindset. That VP and his boss are wrong, both from a business standpoint and in terms of human decency.

ENERGY FOOD (en i see kay), Saturday, 11 February 2012 04:13 (twelve years ago) link

shitheads

Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 11 February 2012 04:18 (twelve years ago) link

you should ask to schedule a meeting at 4:30pm PST

Prince Rebus (donna rouge), Saturday, 11 February 2012 04:24 (twelve years ago) link

we've thought of doing that, but every meeting with this d-bag goes on for two hours (he's a talker, he is), so we'd end up being there late too. my solution was just to stop going to the meeting, and since my boss is on the west coast too, she's cool with it. it still annoys me on principle, though.

how did we get here how? (ytth), Saturday, 11 February 2012 04:46 (twelve years ago) link

well, sounds like the problem is solved either way (not going).

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 11 February 2012 04:56 (twelve years ago) link

seriously tho - what a douchebag thing to do.

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 11 February 2012 04:56 (twelve years ago) link

Who the hell wants to have a meeting at 9 AM anyway?

garbage corn fan (Je55e), Saturday, 11 February 2012 05:41 (twelve years ago) link

Type-A's without any hint of sleep issues and an inability to imagine that anyone might be worthwhile or successful that isn't exactly the same as themselves.

ENERGY FOOD (en i see kay), Saturday, 11 February 2012 05:48 (twelve years ago) link

Its ok most of those types end up divorced and then dead at 60 of a heart attack anyway.

thanks to denial, I'm immortal! (Trayce), Saturday, 11 February 2012 05:58 (twelve years ago) link

he's 61 and just got married! in fact, he sold the CEO on making his wife a [position of employment] for the [country] sales division. tan. lives in [place]. mustache. republican. huge [sports team] fan.

how did we get here how? (ytth), Saturday, 11 February 2012 07:56 (twelve years ago) link

well that's crystal clear :)

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Saturday, 11 February 2012 09:43 (twelve years ago) link

might have been redacted slightly

are you ready for a little spittle? (electricsound), Saturday, 11 February 2012 09:53 (twelve years ago) link

mustache is pretty much all you need to know

mookieproof, Saturday, 11 February 2012 10:16 (twelve years ago) link

OMG IT'S RON BURGUNDY

thanks to denial, I'm immortal! (Trayce), Saturday, 11 February 2012 21:32 (twelve years ago) link

I'm starting to feel like I need anger managment therapy. I'm 2 months through a 3 month notice period and I'm going insane.

They want me to document everything because I'm the only one left who knows half the system (they already alienated everyone else who did, they all quit last year or the year before, I was too lazy/settled to get around to leaving at the same time, although it's been total crap at my company for about 2 years, this is my punishment for laziness I guess), but they can't stop bugging me about other things, giving me more work to do which should probably go to the person who's taking over from me (with me available to help them if they get stuck), etc.

I'm probably lucky they haven't fired me yet given I've basically insulted everyone who works in any kind of management position on a regular basis.

The Eyeball Of Hull (Colonel Poo), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 12:12 (twelve years ago) link

fizzles' liver-wire story made me genuinely lol. tempted to try it myself, to be honest

Not only dermatologists hate her (James Morrison), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 23:09 (twelve years ago) link

"It's just funny going to the Asian market downstairs and hearing the strains of Johnny Cash walking the line."

It's not an Asian market. It's a convenience store. They don't sell anything remotely Asian there. You go there to buy diet coke. The owners are Asian-Americans. If you owned a convenience store, it wouldn't be an Irish-American market.

Also, more than just white people can like Johnny Cash.

getting good with gulags (beachville), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 13:22 (twelve years ago) link

James, the problem with the liver wire was it was very difficult to work out what such a flimsy piece of apparatus could possibly doing that would require it to be fitted. If you're going to give it a go, can I suggest a an actual piece of tubing (rather than clock-radio aerial)? Also, don't use masking tape to affix it to the side of your neck. Lay in some medical-looking stuff - translucent or something.

I mean even before the lol of seeing that it wasn't really joined to anything, there was the immediate scepticism of 'this person has a long record of telling fibs and swinging the lead - tho this is next level tbqf'.

(Good example of fib - he once told a group of us that one of his aunties had won the lottery. Then about half a year later he told us that his auntie had won the lottery, which was greeted with 'Another one!'. His response? A look of brief confusion then, 'Yes, that's what everyone said, amazing isn't it?'

I mean, it's basically pitiable and funny, although I also didn't talk to him for about two years because it is also boring and annoying. The bus he used to get home in the evening used to be called The Big B___ Bus of Bullshit, because of the Preposterous Tales you'd be subjected to on the way home.

I mean, I generally like to have a default setting of believing what people say, but this guy was something else.

The Winged Devil Ape (Fizzles), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 13:29 (twelve years ago) link

If somebody is going to be completely full of shit, I would prefer them to be completely full of shit about interesting things so I can say, "Yes, this is surely false, but my world is so much interesting if it's true and so I chose to believe."

carl agatha, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 13:32 (twelve years ago) link

Did anyone call this dude on the wire?

I have one thing to say: "Roxanne Shanté" (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 13:37 (twelve years ago) link

No, none of us (his colleagues) did. Really wouldn't have been worth the fuss iirc. The manager at that time was so ineffectual that he wouldn't have said anything. But the general ambience of contempt and laughter it provoked meant he didn't come in with it again.

He never did anything quite so egregious again, until recently when a heavily worked/airbrushed/photoshopped profile photo of him on facebook appeared and people were incredulous when he was showing it off, because he kept saying 'Amazing isn't it? It must have just been a trick of the light'.

The Winged Devil Ape (Fizzles), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 13:49 (twelve years ago) link

This dude sounds awesome.

get ready for the banter (NotEnough), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 15:02 (twelve years ago) link

Not stupid or annoying, but just found another coworker in my division is resigning. Thats the second one in less than a month, leaving the rest of us with a huge workload. So stressed out.

Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 15:03 (twelve years ago) link

Two guys among my group resigned in August and we still haven't replaced them, largely due to a combination of red tape and office politics. I've been told that I'm supposed to replace one of the guys (i.e. get a promotion), but we have to hire for the other position first, because it really is a more essential role. So we've been overworked for 6 months and I've been left hanging on this promotion for six months. I feel your stress.

getting good with gulags (beachville), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 15:07 (twelve years ago) link

wow. that wire story is something else.

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 15:14 (twelve years ago) link

Having just sent round the new set of business cards I designed following a logo change, I was asked "Why can't we have ATTRACTIVE cards?", to which I replied "I'll design attractive cards when we have attractive workers." -- a reply I was quite proud of until I saw I had emailed Reply to ALL

Not only dermatologists hate her (James Morrison), Thursday, 16 February 2012 01:03 (twelve years ago) link

liver wire man is gonna get srsly ill for reals one day and no one will believe him.

Lindsay NAGL (Trayce), Thursday, 16 February 2012 01:14 (twelve years ago) link

aw shit james

beware of greek bearer bonds (darraghmac), Thursday, 16 February 2012 03:04 (twelve years ago) link

a reply I was quite proud of until I saw I had emailed Reply to ALL

ohhhhhhh no! I hope you dont end up in the paper or something! ;P

Lindsay NAGL (Trayce), Thursday, 16 February 2012 03:08 (twelve years ago) link

pet peeve: when someone "corrects" a word and is completely wrong.

example, i had a sentence that read "Care should be taken so that our work complements the efforts of our sister branch." An edited version comes back an hour that says "Care should be taken so that our work complements compliments the efforts of our sister branch."

sigh. not a big deal, but it happens all the time, and always ends with either a) a quick visit to dictionary.com or b) the other person "agreeing" with me but the look on the face suggests that they're just letting me get my way to save me face

tmi but (Z S), Friday, 17 February 2012 18:47 (twelve years ago) link

One photographer I deal with called her business "Photo's by _______". I pointed out the error and she was pretty pissed off. "I'm not changing it -- I already have my business cards printed."

Steamtable Willie (WmC), Friday, 17 February 2012 19:08 (twelve years ago) link

ha ahha hahaaa.

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 17 February 2012 19:11 (twelve years ago) link

Will, that is fucking great!

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 17 February 2012 19:12 (twelve years ago) link

Maybe she'll only take one photo for each client.

Let A Man Come In And Do The Cop Porn (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 17 February 2012 19:15 (twelve years ago) link

Every photo she sends out has the digital watermark "© Photo's by ______" (aka "© I'm A Stubborn Dumbass") on it.

Plus she's not a very good photographer.

xp hahaha

Steamtable Willie (WmC), Friday, 17 February 2012 19:17 (twelve years ago) link

People will think she's selling just one photo, which is by __________.

Xp dammit

garbage corn fan (Je55e), Friday, 17 February 2012 19:22 (twelve years ago) link

ZS, that is my biggest peeve! esp the 'ok....' face you mention!

tehresa, Tuesday, 21 February 2012 20:09 (twelve years ago) link

My coworker got married during his lunch break today. Not that I'm bitching. Just saying.

elan, Wednesday, 22 February 2012 00:27 (twelve years ago) link

2 workmates are going "hwwaoooorrrrrrrrrrr!" in awe/horror at that vid of the bullied kid who poleaxed the other kid into the concrete. Im like "wtf how have you not seen this before now!?"

Lindsay NAGL (Trayce), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 00:38 (twelve years ago) link

Also do some work you barstools! If you dont sell stuff I have no work to do dammit!

Lindsay NAGL (Trayce), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 00:39 (twelve years ago) link

weirdly threatening
http://i.imgur.com/Hu0nY.jpg

bnw, Wednesday, 22 February 2012 14:32 (twelve years ago) link

Me: Good morning, Hank.
Hank: I'M FINE. HOW ARE YOU?
Me: …

carl agatha, Wednesday, 22 February 2012 15:08 (twelve years ago) link

Just sent mean email to dude in outsourced development team because he repeatedly asks me when his data is going to be available even though every time he asks me I tell him I am only responsible for loading the data when it arrives, not sourcing it, and have no idea when that will happen. I think he might get the message this time... kinda feel like I'm being a dick about it but enough is enough and anyway I'm leaving in 2 weeks so fuck 'em.

The Eyeball Of Hull (Colonel Poo), Friday, 24 February 2012 12:40 (twelve years ago) link

well how did you word it? "I WOULDN'T UPLOAD YOU IF YOU WERE THE LAST DATA ON EARTH!"

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 24 February 2012 14:06 (twelve years ago) link

Data Cleansing is so passé

Mark G, Friday, 24 February 2012 14:11 (twelve years ago) link

xpost Heh it was pretty obnoxious, it started with I don't know how many times I have to tell you this and ended with Please stop asking me ... I do not know. I didn’t know last time you asked me, I won’t know next time either.

Stupid thing is I've told him plenty of times to ask the project manager, who was also cc'd on the email he sent me.

I've had lunch now so I'm in a good mood again. Also a different person asked me who would be responsible for doing this kind of thing after I've left, and I had to say I have no idea because I haven't handed over to anyone, which made me slightly happier imagining them having to try and figure all this shit out after I've gone when they've had 3 months to find someone for me to handover to.

The Eyeball Of Hull (Colonel Poo), Friday, 24 February 2012 14:19 (twelve years ago) link

okay I have no idea what the context for this is and I genuinely like this particular coworker, but I just heard his voice steadily rising in volume and irritation from across the office and thought it was kind of funny out of nowhere:

"Dan... Dan. Dan... Dan.... DAN.... DAN... Dan Dan Dan. DAN. You asked me a question, I'm trying to answer it. Dan. DAN. She's a straight A student."

Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 27 February 2012 15:44 (twelve years ago) link

inception music imo

steep? that's where i'm off hiking (darraghmac), Monday, 27 February 2012 15:53 (twelve years ago) link

i'd bitch about my coworkers, but they're generally ok. Problem is that for the past week and for this week all three have been absent due to jobshare, annual leave and illness. We're (I'm?) also covering for another unit whose members are out due to jobshare, maternity leave (x 3) and, in the longer term, retirement (not to be replaced, x 2) and, in the longest term, death (not to be replaced).

I'm leaving in three weeks, so tbh I've enough to be doing what with winding downs and wrapping ups, but there's nobody to complain to- the immediate boss just got promoted (not to be replaced).

steep? that's where i'm off hiking (darraghmac), Monday, 27 February 2012 15:59 (twelve years ago) link

btw i'm not to be replaced, as far ad i know, but really that's not my problem

steep? that's where i'm off hiking (darraghmac), Monday, 27 February 2012 16:01 (twelve years ago) link

okay I have no idea what the context for this is and I genuinely like this particular coworker, but I just heard his voice steadily rising in volume and irritation from across the office and thought it was kind of funny out of nowhere:

"Dan... Dan. Dan... Dan.... DAN.... DAN... Dan Dan Dan. DAN. You asked me a question, I'm trying to answer it. Dan. DAN. She's a straight A student."

Related to this, maybe?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2D3-FkoXNU

garbage corn fan (Je55e), Monday, 27 February 2012 16:03 (twelve years ago) link

ha, a couple weeks ago i walked in on one of my co-workers screaming at another co-worker (also her BFF) STOP LOOKING AT ME!!!!!!!!! and this was in one of our stores. it was pretty awkward, but both of these girls are totally crazy and weird and flaky, and constantly suffering from one crisis or another.

just1n3, Monday, 27 February 2012 17:25 (twelve years ago) link

Uurrrnnnngghhh every morning, a bowl of cereal, at her desk right behind me. The incessant clink clink of the spoon on the plate and the shlrupycrunchrunch drives me INSANE.

Lindsay NAGL (Trayce), Monday, 27 February 2012 23:32 (twelve years ago) link

Darragh you work in the public service right?

Volvo Twilight (p-dog), Monday, 27 February 2012 23:43 (twelve years ago) link

lol why d'you ask -_-

steep? that's where i'm off hiking (darraghmac), Monday, 27 February 2012 23:45 (twelve years ago) link

tbh, if current trends continue by april 24th i will actually be the irish public service, tho hr refuse to speculate on the likely effect this has on my outstanding annual leave requests

steep? that's where i'm off hiking (darraghmac), Monday, 27 February 2012 23:48 (twelve years ago) link

'can you do this for me, i'm not good on computers?'

Look, mrs, you've been collecting a higher wage than me for twice as long as me in your current position. As far as the work you're using it for goes, Excel hasn't moved on light-years in that time. You've had entire paid weeks off to learn how to use microsoft office, for fuck's sake. This is a basic function of your job. I'd humbly suggest that you 'get' good at computers, fuck off, and leave me alone to do the work of people that aren't actually here. Dig?

steep? that's where i'm off hiking (darraghmac), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 15:25 (twelve years ago) link

Opportunities like that are pure office gold though.

"You want me to...do your work for you? Because you're not good at it?"

Steamtable Willie (WmC), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 15:27 (twelve years ago) link

i'm am too nice for that, and tbf so is the other person in question, but i'm ..... under pressure atm and hey this thread exists y'know

steep? that's where i'm off hiking (darraghmac), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 15:32 (twelve years ago) link

suggest gently that the person is shitting in your bathroom

mookieproof, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 15:37 (twelve years ago) link

suggest ... bran?

steep? that's where i'm off hiking (darraghmac), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 15:43 (twelve years ago) link

ZING!!!

I have one thing to say: "Roxanne Shanté" (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 15:48 (twelve years ago) link

I'd be going to my boss (or hers) and saying "why is this lady asking me to do/help her with her work, idgi, she seems v confsed?" all innocent like.

Lindsay NAGL (Trayce), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 22:46 (twelve years ago) link

everyone else in ireland is on leave or something iirc

mookieproof, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 22:47 (twelve years ago) link

Theyre all over here working tbh!

Lindsay NAGL (Trayce), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 22:55 (twelve years ago) link

are they taking our jerbs trayce

sharthouse (electricsound), Thursday, 1 March 2012 01:29 (twelve years ago) link

ya it's just me and her and the president holding the fort iirc, everyone else is in canada or aus tekkin their jebs

Streep? That's where I'm a-striking! (darraghmac), Thursday, 1 March 2012 01:32 (twelve years ago) link

I hate when I promise to have something to the leader of my project (and our client) by a certain day by the end of business. And one day before that deadline, I remind the project lead that as promised, it will be delivered, but I am sure to clarify that it will be closer to late afternoon (because it's a lot of work). And despite this, I still get pings and "where is it" emails and messages at like mid-day, which seriously slow me down for an hour or so. And I deliver as promised in the end, but I feel like everyone's acting like I turned it in late when I turned it in when I said I was going to!

Bo Jackson Overdrive, Thursday, 1 March 2012 01:41 (twelve years ago) link

Not technically about a co-worker, but close enough.

In December the building where I work had its elevator replaced, which left us without an elevator for 2.5 weeks.

The tenant in the suite next door to us is a creepy, low-rent ambulance chasing attorney with mobility problems that would prevent him from walking up 6 floors to his office. His landlord, a friend of my boss', went above and beyond in making accommodations by renting him a first-floor office, paying to have his phones re-routed to that office, and even waiving rent for the entire month of December.

Today my boss told me that the landlord also offered to buy the chaser and his whole staff lunch from various local cafes during the 2.5 week elevator outage because they would have to lug files up and down the stairs.

She said that his response was, quote: "No, fuck them, just pay me whatever you were planning on spending for lunch."

garbage corn fan (Je55e), Thursday, 1 March 2012 06:54 (twelve years ago) link

. . . and the landlord said?

mookieproof, Thursday, 1 March 2012 07:04 (twelve years ago) link

My boss didn't get his exact response (?!) buy he took the lunch offer off the table.

garbage corn fan (Je55e), Thursday, 1 March 2012 07:21 (twelve years ago) link

my God. I go in this morning ready to attend a web-based training session about a program that I'm going to be using in training next week. We've talked about this for weeks. I couldn't be on site (as it is out of state), and I was told I could choose from Wed, Thurs, or Fri, and I picked today.

I show up, wait 30 minutes on hold, and it is clear that nobody is going to start the conference call. I ask one of the people in the on-site training room, who explains that the training has already begun, and there is no virtual training today, and that she is looking to have the leader schedule virtual training the next day.

I go to the project lead (same one I bitched about yesterday) and I ask her what is up, and instead of her following up, she asks me to go settle it with the other lady. Who comes back and says the dude can't do virtual training tomorrow after all, but can I read through his powerpoint and learn that way.

It's clear this project lead did not communicate with the other manager AT ALL, and just assumed there would be web-based training set up today. It's her job to be on top of all these things and she never is. it kills me as this is a tough project, and pretty much everybody is pulling their weight, but because she isn't doing her job and leading the project, things are slipping through the cracks. Her mentor has had to pull her aside and give her emergency coaching twice already.

Tomorrow I am going to have to draft a "What I need from you" message and basically tell her I need her to step up, or I can't do my job. Her mentor has encouraged me to do it anyway.

I love my job at the moment. It's just this one person who's making it all wonky. And she's not mean or nasty or anything. I just don't think she's cut out for the role.

Bo Jackson Overdrive, Thursday, 1 March 2012 23:05 (twelve years ago) link

Hey, guys, when you set me up to interview a woman about her husband's health problems for your internal newsletter, thanks for not warning me beforehand that her husband was actually now dead of said health problems. That wasn't embarrassing at all.

Not only dermatologists hate her (James Morrison), Friday, 2 March 2012 01:06 (twelve years ago) link

Know what was fun this week? Working with a bunch of Boomer ladies who grew up with pictures of Davy Jones taped on their bedroom walls.

pplains, Friday, 2 March 2012 01:11 (twelve years ago) link

Ok that's twice this week someone has mentioned Davy Jones, so I Googled him and he means nothing to me except that I have heard of The Monkees.

BJOD and JM, I feel for you.

garbage corn fan (Je55e), Friday, 2 March 2012 01:33 (twelve years ago) link

lol jesse he DIED this week!!

just1n3, Friday, 2 March 2012 01:42 (twelve years ago) link

Basically totes crazy co-worker is on extended FMLA, thank god. her baseline behavior was to plant herself (legs apart, arms folded) in front of whoever she wanted to speak to and explain whatever was on her mind in great detail, taking care to repeat anything that was said back to her. We work with mentally ill clients and she's pretty much been more trouble than all but a few of the clients.

unfortunately her being on leave means that her shifts often get filled by an on-call employee who will monologue endlessly about a) coach bags, b) her various expensive gadgets that she can't actually afford, or c) her fucked-up childhood and family (which sounds awful but she shares deeply personal details within hours of meeting co-workers).

JoeStork, Friday, 2 March 2012 04:36 (twelve years ago) link

So I have a legitimate reason to bitch about my stupid, annoying ex-coworker. He quit about a month ago to go to another firm and we discovered today that he severely fucked up the construction drawings for a project currently being built. Enough so that the project had to be put on hold while we fix it. Eight of us now have to work all weekend and evenings until we fix his fuck-ups.

stan this sick bunt (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 2 March 2012 04:37 (twelve years ago) link

is the project a giant microwave popcorn bag?

how did we get here how? (ytth), Friday, 2 March 2012 04:43 (twelve years ago) link

smh

stan this sick bunt (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 2 March 2012 04:45 (twelve years ago) link

yikes jon, that sucks. nothing worse that when they leave a mess in their wake and there's nothing you can do to them.

Bo Jackson Overdrive, Friday, 2 March 2012 04:45 (twelve years ago) link

Okay our new interior designer is either a) a future SNL character in development stages, b) straight up irl trollin', or c) really crazy. She is a dead ringer for Bjork when she talks and is just overboard as hell in everything she says.

Two examples just from today:
Someone left a paper for her on my desk, so I took it over to her and she said, "Oh thank you, you are an exteremely kind and generous person to bring this majestic paper to me. Such a wonderful, happy thing". I shit you not, this is fucking verbatim.

I overhear her on the phone talking to a client saying, "Yes it has made my day full of joy and glory to be able to speak with you and get to know you. I know our working together will be fruitful and will make us both majestic."

stan this sick bunt (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 5 March 2012 20:19 (twelve years ago) link

I keep waiting for the hidden camera reveal.

stan this sick bunt (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 5 March 2012 20:20 (twelve years ago) link

Jesus. I wonder if she is into some of this sort of stuff ❀ the cult of: ➥motivational speakers ➥life coaches ➥personal growth gurus ➥new-age charlatans ➥AWESOMENESS FEST

garbage corn fan (Je55e), Monday, 5 March 2012 21:19 (twelve years ago) link

i wish i could be made majestic

mookieproof, Monday, 5 March 2012 21:26 (twelve years ago) link

Have jvc bring you a sheet of paper.

carl agatha, Monday, 5 March 2012 21:42 (twelve years ago) link

Maybe I just bring majesty into everything I do?

Haha I thought of that thread the first time I met her, maybe when I build up my tolerance a little I will broach the topic and bring new insight to that thread.

stan this sick bunt (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 5 March 2012 22:18 (twelve years ago) link

I seriously am excited about this prospect.

carl agatha, Monday, 5 March 2012 22:20 (twelve years ago) link

Is she ESL? Or just nuts?

Medical Dance Crab With Lesson (Trayce), Monday, 5 March 2012 22:32 (twelve years ago) link

Well, I'm pretty sure she is ESL but it genuinely doesn't feel like just wrong word choice, she is just really exuberant about the tiniest things.

stan this sick bunt (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 5 March 2012 22:33 (twelve years ago) link

She's Elvish!

Medical Dance Crab With Lesson (Trayce), Monday, 5 March 2012 22:36 (twelve years ago) link

Yes! That one crossed my mind too, she is definitely pixie-ish.

stan this sick bunt (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 5 March 2012 22:41 (twelve years ago) link

I work with a dude who starts every request with "in principle" and then gets out of the said request. I don't need an pathetic excuse, I need a yes or no. Fucktard.

smartmouthnewbie (captain rosie), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 16:30 (twelve years ago) link

posted this in the chicago thread by accident:

So tired of people not being able to get their shit together. We were supposed to be practicing for an interview for a new project today and as of last night, we were told to get here early today to start practicing. Got in at 6:45 this morning and finally heard at 8:15 by the partner in charge of the interview that "something came up" and the practice was delayed. Same thing was emailed at 9:30 and 10:45. Now we were just told that we would be starting practice at 5:45 tonight, "so make whatever arrangements you need to be able to stay really late tonight". Yes because its always easy for everyone to completely rejuggle their lives because you are a horrible planner and completely unable to prioritize.

stan this sick bunt (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 19:47 (twelve years ago) link

I'd suggest that "whatever arrangements" involves "you're providing dinner, boss."

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 19:51 (twelve years ago) link

That remains to be seen, but I sure as hell know he's not covering the cost of the babysitter I had to hire last minute. Nor, y'know, getting equivalent time off to spend with my son now that this will make 6 straight work days that I've had to stay at work well past his bedtime. All of this to help repair other people's fuckups, mind.

stan this sick bunt (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 19:55 (twelve years ago) link

Don't snigger and try to make jokes in an 8am meeting introducing upcoming job losses in our department, you utter fuckwit.

Fuck this shithole.

James Mitchell, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 08:46 (twelve years ago) link

The really really annoying one is on his way out.

Although who knows what his replacement will be like.

tokyo rosemary, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 15:28 (twelve years ago) link

So that nutty security guard who washes her keys? I'm walking down the hall today and she stops me to express surprise and pleasure that I'm wearing a skirt (fact: I wear skirts or dresses ~90% of the time), tells me I should wear skirts more often (like, in the shower?) and then caps it with, "I wish I had big legs like that."

Doesn't everybody, though?

carl agatha, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 20:21 (twelve years ago) link

Wow. In case it wasn't mentioned earlier, this security guard washes her bags of chips in the nasty public bathroom sink.

garbage corn fan (Je55e), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 21:03 (twelve years ago) link

wait, waht

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 21:10 (twelve years ago) link

She buys bags of chips from the vending machine.
She takes the chips into the bathroom and washes the exterior of the bags with soap and water before she opens them.

Once as I was leaving the bathroom behind her she turned around and went back in muttering, "I forgot to wash my keys."

She puts newspaper down before she sits on chairs. All chairs, including the one she exclusively occupies.

That all makes her sound too sympathetic. I mean, I don't wish her any ill but her weirdness extends far, far beyond potential OCD behaviors. Like, I could write you a ten page treatise on her wig choices alone.

carl agatha, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 21:52 (twelve years ago) link

She's wearing this long, straight wig today that is mostly notable for being constantly cock-eyed, but my favorite is her long, curly red hooker wig. She's a church going grandmother, btw, who endlessly sings hymns in the bathroom. In her curly hooker fetish store wig.

Oh she also always wears two pairs of pants and starts the process of unfastening them in the very public hallway outside the bathroom.

And she does some weird chinchilla dust bath thing with dry paper towels in the accessible stall where she'll take two huge piles of tri-fold paper towels from the dispenser into the stall and do go knows what but its like nonstop paper rustling and hymn singing for at least ten straight minutes.

I mentioned she's the security guard, right?

carl agatha, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 22:00 (twelve years ago) link

Once a very very old coworker of mine collapsed in the bathroom and I found her and called the security guard and told her to dial the emergency number for our building and she proceeded to run back and forth across the bathroom threshold calling "JESUS CHRIST! OH JESUS!" and was still helpfully engaging in hysterical prayer when somebody else came along to keep an eye on the collapsed woman and I could go call the emergency number myself.

carl agatha, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 22:03 (twelve years ago) link

I think she needs her own thread.

kate78, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 22:38 (twelve years ago) link

Sales boss and sales person currently having shouting match in closed door office, which we can all notice. Overheard snippet of "you're always like this, you have a go at me EVERY SINGLE DAY"... can't blame the guy tbh. Said boss is a snide, rude, unfunny "dry-humoured" English asshole.

Medical Dance Crab With Lesson (Trayce), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 23:07 (twelve years ago) link

"English" would suffice

Two pairs of pants? Is one pair like PJ pants? Livin the dream if so.

kinder, Thursday, 8 March 2012 02:19 (twelve years ago) link

training this week's going great, but this one utter dolt on the team that nobody likes (and few know what he actually does) emails me (and CCs the project manager) on this deliverable that my group hasn't even agreed to do yet (and if we do, it won't be me, more than likely)...and he basically says "we need to get moving on this now. What will your role be?".

I was tempted to send him a pic of an animated bear shrugging, but everybody told me to just ignore him.

Bo Jackson Overdrive, Thursday, 8 March 2012 02:34 (twelve years ago) link

Pants: she wears a security guard uniform over street clothes.

carl agatha, Thursday, 8 March 2012 02:44 (twelve years ago) link

I think she needs her own thread.

mookieproof, Thursday, 8 March 2012 02:47 (twelve years ago) link

She wears 2 sets of clothes!?

She sounds like she has some..erm... rather serious problems?

Medical Dance Crab With Lesson (Trayce), Thursday, 8 March 2012 02:49 (twelve years ago) link

I'm in an exam room with a patient who is standing around in his underwear when my coworker knocks on the door. I yell, "one moment!" and continue to evaluate the dude. She knocks again, pops her head in and tells me it can't wait. I excuse myself and step outside. The big emergency? She was running to Starbucks and wanted to get my coffee order.

kate78, Thursday, 8 March 2012 22:59 (twelve years ago) link

I don't even drink coffee.

kate78, Thursday, 8 March 2012 22:59 (twelve years ago) link

omg

carl agatha, Thursday, 8 March 2012 23:00 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah thats not on. Actually that reminds me, of a witnessed co-worker suck I guess. I was in the waiting room at my physiotherapists, and one of the head older physios came out, and proceeded to rudely, loudly chew out the receptionist in full earshot of all of us in the waiting room, for disturbing him while with another patient. The guy was pissy at some other patient who'd apparently turned up late, he was all "five minutes late is LATE, its not good enough, I dont care if he's sitting in his car stressing out, do NOT disturb me with a patient again do you understand!?"

He was so rude I almost wanted to make a complaint. I just sat there quietly glad he isnt my actual physio.

(he's done it again since, I think I now know why the receptyionist seems to change every few months).

Medical Dance Crab With Lesson (Trayce), Thursday, 8 March 2012 23:23 (twelve years ago) link

OMG. The woman today that is walking around the entire office letting each and every person know just how much of a trooper she is for coming in when she is "sooooo sick" and "feeling absolutely awful", while she sneezes, coughs, and generally spreads sickness everywhere. No one is impressed, stay the fuck home next time.

stan this sick bunt (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 9 March 2012 21:28 (twelve years ago) link

someone put letterhead paper in the printer (one I don't use) and while I'm waiting for my print job to come out, she's like hmmm there's fancy paper in this one. is it supposed to be like that? and i'm like oh yeah, that's probably a mistake, and she says hmm, someone should change it and then she walks away. ugh. why don't you just change it? everyone in this office is like this. so i just changed it.

rayuela, Monday, 12 March 2012 15:18 (twelve years ago) link

Ugh, why are architects so stupid? We got a call this morning from a (potential, not current) client asking us to do a rush exercise to create some marketing materials for a presentation they have this Thursday, as in just a couple days from now. In their infinite wisdom, the powers that be have decided we'll do this for free, "just in case they ever decide to bring us work in the future". WTF kind of business plan is this? Its annoying. I realize the market is still shaky, but giving away your services is not the solution.

stan this sick bunt (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 12 March 2012 15:19 (twelve years ago) link

agghhh. my colleague NEVER gives me a clear idea of the task she wants me to do. I read her emails where she asks me to do something, and unless it's something very simple like "update the website with x", it's always EXTREMELY confusing. I can't even pinpoint where I don't understand what she's saying. Maybe her language is too vague? And she sent me this email 5 minutes before she leaves for the weekend, and no response to the clarification questions I immediately sent. How am I supposed to do what you want me to do if you can't even tell me clearly and aren't around to answer my questions about it?

she sent me an email once while she was on holiday, forwarding me an email saying "can you please take care of this", and I have absolutely no context or knowledge of what was being requested, and my entreaties for more background info went unmet. Ugh.

rayuela, Thursday, 15 March 2012 18:40 (twelve years ago) link

and my entreaties for more background info went unmet

I'd just make sure I CCed my boss into all such entreaties so as to cover my arse

Not only dermatologists hate her (James Morrison), Thursday, 15 March 2012 22:49 (twelve years ago) link

not co-workers, but a fucking CLIENT.

when we train call centers, we always give our clients the ability to call in and "test" the representatives knowledge. We also do our own internal testing. This is done using a controlled environment, with scripts, and specific answers we are looking for. The testing comes at the end of training, and is one way of measuring the readiness of teh representatives.

As a result, we always tell our contacts not to ad lib, because that kills the 'controlled' environment, and makes calibrating the results more difficult. In addition, sometimes they throw out a question that would not be confusing in a real life environment, but that would be in a controlled test environment (example forthcoming)...or they ask an invalid question that the representative couldn't realistically find the answer to.

We had our first round last week, and it went well, so I was expected similar success, as the training went very well. Within minutes of today's client session starting, though, it was clear that something was amiss. One of the client contacts went completely off book and started asking "trick" questions about other services that this call center didn't handle (and the correct answer was presumably to offer to transfer the call to the right place). Now, in real life, those representatives would know to transfer that call or give them the correct number to call. But since it was a test environment, they all thought that it was a REAL LIFE call that got misrouted, since they weren't supposed to be getting calls like that, so they all got confused as to what to do.

In addition, one of the callers asked a question that I had specifically omitted from the question bank because there was no possible way for the representatives to answer it as the test software didn't have the necessary information in the test environment...and there was also a tool we were building for our representatives that wasn't done yet. If I'd known they planned to ask this question, I could have put together a 'temporary' means of getting the info to them, but when they went rogue, obviously I couldn't.

One caller adlibbed a question that we don't have the answer to because THEY NEVER FUCKING GAVE THE INFORMATION TO US (and it's not something we should be expected to know ANYWAY).

I don't know if this was their attempt at playing "gotcha", to ask 'off' questions to see if we were truly ready, but if so, this is NOT the way to do it. Now they pretty much rattled the representatives unnecessarily, and made it impossible to truly assess the individual reps since they sabotaged the calls.

I was so angry I left before the 'feedback' came in because I was raging too much and was afraid I'd say something nonprofessional. Any 'negative' feedback would be a joke -- how can you broadside someone and then turn around and complain about it? And even if they don't, and give us 'weighted' feedback in light of the problems, they've rendered the whole exercise useless. It's no-win either way.

Frustrating as it was a great training class and I enjoyed teaching them, and hate that it has to end on a sour note.

Bo Jackson Overdrive, Friday, 16 March 2012 22:14 (twelve years ago) link

Basically it was this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=NYgrHQVBWb0#t=463s

kinder, Friday, 16 March 2012 23:27 (twelve years ago) link

I THINK THERE'S BEEN A RAPE UP THERE

Bo Jackson Overdrive, Friday, 16 March 2012 23:42 (twelve years ago) link

love that Office episode lol

Bo Jackson Overdrive, Friday, 16 March 2012 23:42 (twelve years ago) link

Ugh, my boss has asked me to send out a generic sales email to a bunch of existing and potential advertisers. I hate becoming a spammer.

any major prude will tell you (WmC), Monday, 19 March 2012 04:42 (twelve years ago) link

If someone is going to send out an email announce the death of a coworker's parent, maybe compose a subject line like, "Death of Bob Smith, Court Reporter Jill Smith's Father" AND NOT "Death of Court Reporter Jill Smith Father Bob Smith." (sic)

carl agatha, Monday, 19 March 2012 17:53 (twelve years ago) link

While I'm at it, my boss is notorious for projecting his Irish Catholicness on to everyone around, ie just presuming that all white people are Irish Catholic (and all people who aren't white are Catholic and wish they were Irish). So I'm eating leftovers at my desk and let's not even get into how annoying it is for him to decide this is a great time to come over and talk to me about work, but anyway, the leftovers consist of braised kale, roasted potatoes, and roasted chicken. He looks at my food and says, "Oh, you've got a little corned beef and cabbage leftover from St. Patrick's day!"

carl agatha, Monday, 19 March 2012 17:59 (twelve years ago) link

Is this guy actually Irish or is he American?

kate78, Monday, 19 March 2012 18:02 (twelve years ago) link

That's not how (Irish-)Americans think....

free societies must let drunken gay Texans have sex (Je55e), Monday, 19 March 2012 18:04 (twelve years ago) link

LOL yeah, he is an American of Irish descent living in Chicago, which is kind of a whole different thing than being from Ireland or being American and of Irish descent somewhere else (except probably Boston).

carl agatha, Monday, 19 March 2012 19:01 (twelve years ago) link

That's part of what's so damned irritating about it. He's at least third, maybe fourth generation American. And statistically, white people in Chicago are more likely to be Polish than Irish. But he looks at the world through giant, green, shamrock-shaped novelty sunglasses.

carl agatha, Monday, 19 March 2012 19:07 (twelve years ago) link

Plastic Paddy.

kate78, Monday, 19 March 2012 19:15 (twelve years ago) link

I'm American but I grew up around Irish immigrants, so this is irritating....although it's usually someone who never had a living Irish relative that acts this way.

We barely celebrate St. Patrick's Day in my family. Not that we hate it or something.

I am getting dumped on again just because I have experience with something that my co-workers don't. However, it is not in my job description. Fortunately for them, I am more than happy to do it for the experience and personal enrichment...however I am not being compensated for it. It's just that it keeps happening...I talked to my boss about it a long time ago and she said it wouldn't happen again, and then it does.

Tell them that you're too busy to doing your actual job to do this thing that in no way helps you. They'll soon find someone else to do it when they realise that you aren't. Though I guess you've done that already, right?

get ready for the banter (NotEnough), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 12:54 (twelve years ago) link

does anyone ever get compensated extra for using skills not directly mentioned in their job description?

My job description is so vague it could encompass anything, I basically take it to mean "do what you're told unless it's a daft idea, occasionally think up some ideas of your own for other people to dismiss as daft"

thomasintrouble, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 12:57 (twelve years ago) link

NotEnough, the thing is, I love doing it and it does help me. If it doesn't get done, it won't get done. It is not my boss or my office mates, it is a management problem. They need to create a new position to do this job and they won't or don't have the funds, so they use people like me who only had college coursework in this area (I have minimal professional experience in this area). So, it's like, I have to take a chill pill and do it.

The thing is, it's against official policy to have people like me doing this particular task, which is supposed to be done by a professional.

We have one printer between about sixty people. It's a nuisance to have to wait for documents sometimes but it's generally ok as long as people are vaguely considerate.

We've had someone hot-desking with us recently who spent this morning running off 15 copies of an 800-page document. Leaving aside the fact that it'll probably end up costing us about two grand, who does that at 10am in the morning?

She's printed off half a dozen novels as well and hasn't bothered to go and collect them. I can just about accept that if you work for a publisher you might need to read e-books occasionally (even rapey Twilight fanfic, apparently) but print them overnight when other people aren't actually in the office. Or get a Kindle!

Une semaine de Bunty (ShariVari), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 14:57 (twelve years ago) link

OMG is the document for work? Otherwise wait until the end of the work day. With that level of work, outsource that stuff or you need a print department!

Nothing worse than feeling like the office rat, you end up feeling petty. But that is so rude!

Yes, i think it's work-related but we have people they can outsource things to and the printers can be set up to run overnight!

Une semaine de Bunty (ShariVari), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 15:13 (twelve years ago) link

I can't even begin to full articulate this complaint without putting more details than I'm comfortable with on line and also boring you all with the minutia of my boring job, but suffice it to say, I cannot compete a time sensitive task because of utter incompetence/laziness at four different points along this particular file's journey.

It's also going to make me look bad in the end because the powers that be track things by raw numbers with no ability (or understanding) of the nuances of those raw numbers.

carl agatha, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 15:14 (twelve years ago) link

OMG people who collect stuff "for future use" and then...let it sit there. Which just so happens to be part of my job as a support staffer - file the crap that will be used later.

The problem is we also have co-workers like ShariVari has, and the files become so enormous that we don't have room! I own ONE filing cabinet...and it has to be accessible to my boss, so it can't be crammed with nonsensical documents.

The backlog got so bad I boxed up the ephemeral shit and took it home, where it sits in boxes in my basement (with the tacit permission of my boss, who is not amused by hoarding behavior). I figure if they need the documents in the future, I'll bring them in.

Also, people who make five copies of something trivial when at most you need two copies.

That's so weird that your boss let you take them home. It seems like it should be your boss's responsibility to 1) find a place to put these documents; or 2) instruct people on what to save. I mean, what happens if your basement floods or there's a fire?

carl agatha, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 15:45 (twelve years ago) link

just presuming that all white people are Irish Catholic (and all people who aren't white are Catholic and wish they were Irish

denial imo, denial and envy

less of the same (darraghmac), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 15:53 (twelve years ago) link

but print them overnight when other people aren't actually in the office.

Not really feasible unless someone's willing to hang around overnight adding paper and toner to the machine. But office printers really aren't made to handle 12,000 page output jobs. This should have gone to a copy shop, where they'd probably do it for $500-600... $1000 tops.

any major prude will tell you (WmC), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 16:01 (twelve years ago) link

xpost to carl - they're like book and CD reviews and stuff that one could find in an electronic database or even on the web. The only reason we keep paper copies is because we write notes on them and it's easier to send a photocopy to another department than to e-mail pdf's. Plus web pages and even electronic databases get updated or deleted.

WmC, that is true, you can't print an 800-page novel overnight unless you have a large machine! But it's not my business how large someone's copier is.

However, I have often stayed past 5 when I need to print off some large documents (not 800 pages, though).

800 pages isn't THAT huge a print job.

free societies must let drunken gay Texans have sex (Je55e), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 18:09 (twelve years ago) link

Not for Kinko's or a print department certainly...

Maybe I overwork our all-in-one machine (Konica Bizhub 350) but we regularly do multi-hundred page print jobs without a problem and we're just a small firm (5 people in the office).

lol just started thinking "we're just an unfrozen caveman law firm....."

free societies must let drunken gay Texans have sex (Je55e), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 18:13 (twelve years ago) link

We've had someone hot-desking with us recently who spent this morning running off 15 copies of an 800-page document.

How about 12,000?

any major prude will tell you (WmC), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 18:14 (twelve years ago) link

Oh, now 800 x 15 is a big deal.

free societies must let drunken gay Texans have sex (Je55e), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 18:16 (twelve years ago) link

I would be blowing a fucking gasket if that happened in my office. I would have blown a fucking gasket even when I worked at a quick-copy shop and that happened without alerting everyone else who relied on that machine.

any major prude will tell you (WmC), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 18:18 (twelve years ago) link

The firm I work for has two offices and the support staff works mostly in our other, small-town office and that support staff is largely incompetent.

One of the legal assistants/secretary refuses to CC partners re major cases unless she is very explicitly instructed to do so, even though every week she is instructed to *ALWAYS* err on the side of inclusion.

One of our clients is being sued in a class action and today we discovered that she hadn't been emailing copies of court papers to the partner who is responsible for the case. She was only emailing the president of the firm, who is an airhead and didn't notice the omission.

Her excuse today: "Well sometimes when I CC him, he asks me "What is this for?"

free societies must let drunken gay Texans have sex (Je55e), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 18:29 (twelve years ago) link

This isn't even the dummy who sends out bizarre, tpyo-ridden, dada emails. She's the "good" one.

free societies must let drunken gay Texans have sex (Je55e), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 18:29 (twelve years ago) link

Her excuse today: "Well sometimes when I CC him, he asks me "What is this for?"

tbf, this would make me un-cc somebody pretty fuckin sharpish

less of the same (darraghmac), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 18:35 (twelve years ago) link

When our attorneys are out of the office, they prefer the secretaries to email them phone messages and they hate voice mail b/c it could sit there all day, but emails are instant. The "good" secretary said to me, condescendingly, "Jesse. I'm not going to tell them, 'NO, I'm not going to let you leave a voice mail.'"

Apparently she only knows how to say "Okay," or treat a caller like shit.

xp - But the thing is, the only reason he has to ask that is b/c she didn't say in her email "The attached is ____, which we received from ____." She will just send a document w/ no explanation of why anyone might care. OF COURSE he's going to ask "WTF is this random thing you sent me?"

free societies must let drunken gay Texans have sex (Je55e), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 18:38 (twelve years ago) link

as always, life is more complex than we had first thought -_-

less of the same (darraghmac), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 18:38 (twelve years ago) link

Yeh, I mean the context here is that she's infamous for being kind of bullheaded.

free societies must let drunken gay Texans have sex (Je55e), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 18:40 (twelve years ago) link

just for instance, gimme a ballpark figure of what these ppl earn, i wanna compare

less of the same (darraghmac), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 18:41 (twelve years ago) link

Who? The Bad People? I honestly don't know, but I'm guessing ~$38K, which would be not too bad for their positions where they live. Especially in their job market. That's a guess though.

free societies must let drunken gay Texans have sex (Je55e), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 18:45 (twelve years ago) link

yeah i suppose i'd need to take local issues into account for a true comparison, i mean i could buy the house i live in atm for 90k tbf

less of the same (darraghmac), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 19:34 (twelve years ago) link

why are fuckers completely unable to stop fucking coughing on a conference call? it's been three fucking weeks ffs.

Upt0eleven, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 15:45 (twelve years ago) link

If I was on a conference call for three weeks, I'd probably start coughing, too.

we can be gyros just for one day (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 15:50 (twelve years ago) link

On mute unless you're talking is standard on telecon's, no? Coughing through it is some stupid annoying co-worker shit.

get ready for the banter (NotEnough), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 16:35 (twelve years ago) link

I'm patient for chronic coughers (one colleague has asthma...I swear it never annoys me but others have complained about it). You can, however, excuse yourself to get a drink of water. Unless you have a really authoritarian boss.

Someone is lighting matches in the bathroom, which makes it smell like burned hair. But then again, if something is bad enough to warrant lighting a match, perhaps that smell is better than the alternative.

I do wish someone hadn't pooped on the toilet set in the fourth stall on the right.

carl agatha, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 21:45 (twelve years ago) link

why are fuckers completely unable to stop fucking coughing on a conference call?

i might have said this before, but on really boring conference calls I have opened up a sound search engine online and played random sounds (lion roaring, horror movie screams, plane crashes) into the phone during the really dull bits when everyone talks at once. makes them all shut up

Not only dermatologists hate her (James Morrison), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 23:08 (twelve years ago) link

Hahaha I wish I had the balls to do that.

zooey bechamel (Trayce), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 23:10 (twelve years ago) link

I hate when people drop by at 8:00 AM just because they happened to see me arrive early! We have a semi-flexible schedule - we can use the office as long as the building is open (7 AM-7 PM). Official hours are 9-5, though. I hate when people drop by at 8:00 AM just because they saw me arrive at work early!

HOW DARE THEY WANT TO TALK TO YOU?! or does "drop by" mean something horrible?

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 22 March 2012 15:20 (twelve years ago) link

I don't mean "talk" to me, I mean dropping by on official business.

isn't that..... why you're at work?

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 22 March 2012 16:41 (twelve years ago) link

Um, no...I don't work a public service position so I'm not obligated to be available to people at all times. I'm an executive assistant. 8 AM interruptions aren't kosher where I work, in fact they are technically verboten according to the employees manual.

So tell 'em to come back at 8!

get ready for the banter (NotEnough), Thursday, 22 March 2012 16:54 (twelve years ago) link

sorry, i guess i don't understand the byways of how your job works

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 22 March 2012 16:58 (twelve years ago) link

Boss: Is this spelled right? (word is "alleging")
Me: Yes.
B: Are you sure? That doesn't look right.
Me: No, it's correct. There are two Ls.
B (sort of to himself): I before E except after C
Me (thinking he's being funny): ...and sometimes Y.
B: Are you sure there isn't an E after the g?
Me: What?
B: Shouldn't it be a-l-l-e-g-e-i-n-g?
Me: No.
B: Are you sure?
Me: Drop the E, add -ing.
B: Well, okay. Are you sure?
Me: *submits resignation*

carl agatha, Thursday, 22 March 2012 17:23 (twelve years ago) link

so i'm leaving in a week and my desk is a bombsite. I've been told i'm expected to clear it, but some of these files have had little baby files and formed complex hierarchical societies in the nether reaches, they've been there so long. My replacement arrives monday, i'm to train her too. And, while i've been told that i can turn the phone off and ignore email, other day-to-day stuff keeps landing whenever i do manage to clear an inch of pine laminate.

I'm not even getting annoyed, friday evening's gonna come around whether the desk is a plateau or a peak, but i'm a little .....'really?......' whenever it's mentioned at this stage.

less of the same (darraghmac), Thursday, 22 March 2012 17:35 (twelve years ago) link

Hah! I remember those annoyances well when I left my last job. My boss worked from home one day, came in the next with five pages of notes for me to type. She had her goddamned LAPTOP with her at home! Why even write on paper? I had 4 days left and was maybe 10% done training my replacement. So I called in sick the next day :P

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Thursday, 22 March 2012 17:39 (twelve years ago) link

Is there a word for that noise people when they capture flobber in their mouth just before spitting it out? He does that constantly. Without the spitting obv. That wouldn't be appropriate in an office.

Also - microwaving cheap ass chicken thighs and barbecue sauce every day for the last three weeks NAGL. Have some variation in your diet ffs. And don't eat it at your desk if it smells like an abattoir on a sunny day. Urgh. I'm supposed to be mentoring this guy and he's just making me hate him.

kraudive, Thursday, 22 March 2012 17:48 (twelve years ago) link

carl agatha, i went through something similar where my supervisor refused to believe that i was correctly informed. our web content management system is pretty rigid and doesn't support pinning things to the top of our webpage -- you have to do it by manipulating the dates of the posts, and even though i told him multiple times we couldn't do it any other way than manipulating the dates, he told me to check with my colleague. i checked with her & she said we can't do it. so i emailed him to let him know, and then at a meeting about something else, he asks both of us again! And we again both say no. And then after we were talking about something else, he said AGAIN, well, didn't we do it for this one thing?

we were both like "no!!"

he's also asked me a million times to make sure google analytics captures everything and that we continue to capture data. we have analytics on the site now! please stop asking me after every thing that we post, 'so analytics will capture this, right?" (even though i have already told him that it will capture data from now until the end of time, or at least until we disable it.)

rayuela, Thursday, 22 March 2012 17:51 (twelve years ago) link

B (sort of to himself): I before E except after C

LOL?

free societies must let drunken gay Texans have sex (Je55e), Thursday, 22 March 2012 19:15 (twelve years ago) link

my boss wanted me to fix his daughters macbook air for her.

she has over 1200 apps synced to it :O

bnw, Thursday, 29 March 2012 05:20 (twelve years ago) link

Is there a word for that noise people when they capture flobber in their mouth just before spitting it out? He does that constantly. Without the spitting obv. That wouldn't be appropriate in an office.

― kraudive, Thursday, March 22, 2012 5:48 PM (1 week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

The hawk in the band name hawkwind was supposed to come from Nik Turner's habit of doing that very thing. Not sure if it's a common term for it but it is very onomatopaeic. The wind bit was cos he farted a lot apparently.

Stevolende, Thursday, 29 March 2012 06:05 (twelve years ago) link

i think you just ruined hawkwind for me? bummer.

CharlieS, Thursday, 29 March 2012 20:39 (twelve years ago) link

"hork" i thought was the term.

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 29 March 2012 22:29 (twelve years ago) link

IME loogies are "hawked"

I associate "hork" w/ puke-related sounds.

free societies must let drunken gay Texans have sex (Je55e), Friday, 30 March 2012 03:24 (twelve years ago) link

nah I always spelt snotty boggery things as horks, too.

zooey bechamel (Trayce), Friday, 30 March 2012 03:28 (twelve years ago) link

Tho I guess ive seen it used for puke as well ("WHO SMELLS LIKE FREAKIN PORPOISE HORK!?")

zooey bechamel (Trayce), Friday, 30 March 2012 03:28 (twelve years ago) link

boggery? BOOGERY.

zooey bechamel (Trayce), Friday, 30 March 2012 03:28 (twelve years ago) link

O_o porpoise hork o_O

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 30 March 2012 03:49 (twelve years ago) link

Hock for loogies, hork for puke.

nickn, Friday, 30 March 2012 04:18 (twelve years ago) link

Closing up the business last night when two men arrived at 9pm, "oh didn't anyone tell you, we're here to clean the floor, it will probably take an hour, maybe two" - no choice but to stay.

boxedjoy, Friday, 30 March 2012 09:24 (twelve years ago) link

Is porpoise puke a thing? That you've actually smelled?

free societies must let drunken gay Texans have sex (Je55e), Friday, 30 March 2012 15:56 (twelve years ago) link

As I do at least once a week, I am explaining to one of the partners how to "do that thing [I] do where you look at files without opening a program" (i.e., how to use Windows Explorer), how to Select All, and how to Cut and how to Paste.

People aren't for comparing, they are for loving. (Je55e), Friday, 30 March 2012 20:50 (twelve years ago) link

Hehehe. Coworker was off yesterday, got engaged, got a manicure before she came back to work today so that she could show it off properly!

My manager (God love her): "I'm in a Kate Hudson movie. Pls kill me."

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 13:36 (twelve years ago) link

gonna kill the dude who keeps sniffling every 10 seconds

blow your nose, fucker

mookieproof, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 16:42 (twelve years ago) link

sniffing every 10 - or blowing/honking every 60. you're in a no win.

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 16:52 (twelve years ago) link

i'm ok with every 60, plus each nose blow may be subtly different, unlike the sniffling

his sneeze is so twee

mookieproof, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 17:00 (twelve years ago) link

My coworker is a twee sneezer so I say, "Bless you, kitten!" which probably means she posting about how stupid and annoying I am on another message board somewhere.

Polly biscuit face (carl agatha), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 17:15 (twelve years ago) link

omg. if i was a twee-sneezer, i'd kill you! (than again i'm not a girl)

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 17:25 (twelve years ago) link

OMG I hate people who sniff SO MUCH. I srsly want to scream STOP THAT at them, it riles me so badly.

fix it with like some music glue (Trayce), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 01:00 (twelve years ago) link

Certain repetitive noises in general set me off for some weird reason -like, my boss sits right behind me and often eats at her desk, so the other day she was having what I guess was a yogurt, and she scraped repeatedly at the little tub with her spoon, over and over and over even after it sounded well and truly empty, so all I could hear was this hollow plasticky clok clok clok sound and I was *literally clenching my fists with rage* trying not to let it get to me.

...it was a very odd reaction.

fix it with like some music glue (Trayce), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 01:02 (twelve years ago) link

Today I am the stupid, annoying co-worker: unable to get my PC to unfreeze, i killed it at the power switch on the wall, not realising that the PC of my co-worker across the room was plugged into a powerboard coming from the same socket--destroyed 30 mins of her work. in my defence all the cables are hidden under desks, but even so, she would be right to post about me here

seven league bootie (James Morrison), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 01:14 (twelve years ago) link

Trayce! I am the same way! Repetitive sniffing, coughing, tapping, scratching. Makes me crazy.

Polly biscuit face (carl agatha), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 01:32 (twelve years ago) link

The clever spods who decide where everyone sits have decided to put the technical team (lots of analysts looking at spreadsheets and concentrating) next to the debt team (lots of chatty people arguing with customers about paying their bills). It is the worst seating arrangement in history and I think everyone is getting cheesed off with it. Stop saying "ourselves" and start saying "us" you grammatical ignoramus!

give me back my 200 dollars (NotEnough), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 06:26 (twelve years ago) link

btw JM if it's a PC you should be able to turn it off even if it's frozen by holding in the power button for 5-10 seconds or so

(and if it's one of the shitty Dells we have at work you will then need to press the power button like 3 times to get it to turn back on properly instead of just going "whrrr" on the fan and then turning off again, but it gets there...)

Trayce and carl, I have the same thing. I am so glad there is nobody in the seat right behind me any more because the last-but-one guy was a chronic sniffer and then there was a guy who mumbled to himself all day interspersed with making horrible squelching noises w/ a pen lid he would permanently have in his mouth and I just COULD NOT filter either of them out, urgh.

By 11am some days I felt so on edge I was on the verge of punching someone or bursting into tears just from this tiny little repeated noise, and I know it's ridiculous, and I know I almost certainly do things which my coworkers find annoying and/or disgusting too, and if I could rewire my brain not to be bothered by these things I totally would but I can't. Ho hum.

instant coffee happening between us (a passing spacecadet), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 10:24 (twelve years ago) link

Not annoying so much as curious: floor in disabled cubicle covered in talcum powder with bare footprint next to the door, as though someone had stripped off, covered themselves in talc, and run arms flailing out into the corridor.

Touché Gödel (ledge), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 10:31 (twelve years ago) link

ahhhhhhh space cadet my other thing is MOUTH NOISES so someone squelching a pen around in his mouth would send me around the bend. Gah.

The clever spods who decide where everyone sits have decided to put the technical team (lots of analysts looking at spreadsheets and concentrating) next to the debt team (lots of chatty people arguing with customers about paying their bills). It is the worst seating arrangement in history and I think everyone is getting cheesed off with it. Stop saying "ourselves" and start saying "us" you grammatical ignoramus!

― give me back my 200 dollars (NotEnough), Wednesday, April 18, 2012 6:26 AM (6 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

In my last tech writing job, they put us tech writers (grumpy, pedantic, quiet loners) in the midst of the Q&A team (gregarious folks who needed to yell to each other from their cubicles all day) and it was similarly unsuccessful.

Polly biscuit face (carl agatha), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 12:37 (twelve years ago) link

Space cadet, I used to have that problem, with repetitive machine noises. Like "could you photocopy 100 pages some place else"? But I'd feel bad about that. I don't know what to tell you, but I switched to a job where I could go outside if I needed to. You'd be surprised what 10-15 minutes outside will do for your nerves!

Or I'd find something that required visiting another office...seeing faces you haven't seen in a while helps, a new environment, etc.

You haven't experienced noise rage until you've had someone taping up cardboard boxes behind you all day. the screaming noise of the packing tape as they pull it... repeated at *just* long enough intervals that you spend a few seconds anticipating each one totally on edge... I genuinely have an eye twitch from that

kinder, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 17:20 (twelve years ago) link

ugh that tape-pulling-off-of-cardboard noise is my personal fingernails on a chalkboard noise

congratulations (n/a), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 17:29 (twelve years ago) link

I was just at Staples where I saw "silent" packing tape.

People aren't for comparing, they are for loving. (Je55e), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 17:54 (twelve years ago) link

I was moving out of a living space I shared with a terrible boyfriend and while he was trying to do something that necessitated quiet I revenge packed by putting everything in boxes and then moving the boxes into the living room where he was and THEN taping them all up slowly. So fucking satisfying.

Polly biscuit face (carl agatha), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 19:38 (twelve years ago) link

Also he owed me lots of money so at least four boxes contained his vinyl collection that I was forcibly taking as debt repayment.

Polly biscuit face (carl agatha), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 19:40 (twelve years ago) link

nice!

fruitsbs (beachville), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 19:41 (twelve years ago) link

You haven't experienced noise rage until you've had someone taping up cardboard boxes behind you all day. the screaming noise of the packing tape as they pull it... repeated at *just* long enough intervals that you spend a few seconds anticipating each one totally on edge... I genuinely have an eye twitch from that

i almost posted something very similar to this. the interior designer in an adjacent cubicle spent all day yesterday boxing up carpet samples to ship and i had to deal with that noise allllll day.

heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 19:44 (twelve years ago) link

so we got a new printer. it is fucking massive (longer than an SUV) is loud as a jet engine when printing and is the most epic white noise machine i have ever encountered when it's not.
oh - and it's about 18 feet away from me. i would, in a second, trade any of you people with your tape noises and spoon scrapping and sniffing to get away from the satanic printing engine located directly behind me. i feel like i'm working on a factory floor or airport hanger all day now and it's killing me.

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 20:37 (twelve years ago) link

That's crazy. Where do you work that you need such a huge in-house printer?

Polly biscuit face (carl agatha), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 20:57 (twelve years ago) link

ad agency.

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 21:05 (twelve years ago) link

Is this like a digital proofing system?? Craziness. There's a reason those things are usually located in SEPARATE ROOMS!

how did I get here? why am I in the whiskey aisle? this is all so (Laurel), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 21:09 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah usually print rooms have sound baffles and stuff! The one my ex worked in certainly did, they'd all go mad if they were sitting next to the machinery when they were doing layouts.

fix it with like some music glue (Trayce), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 23:49 (twelve years ago) link

In fact you prob have an OHS case for the noise level I would hazard a guess.

fix it with like some music glue (Trayce), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 23:49 (twelve years ago) link

Crisis protocol briefing by manic woman who enjoys crises just a little bit too much in an excruciating manic way. All the stress on the wrong words, like a newsreader -'Today what we've got FOR you is...' etc. Far worse was use of the phrase 'battle rhythm'. What?!?!?

ljubljana, Thursday, 19 April 2012 00:20 (twelve years ago) link

Also, letter from bank informing me they are closing my account according to their rules of deposit accounts. Called bank, no reason on file other than 'rules of deposit accounts.' Sent me to the branch for details - good job the branch is a floor down from my desk or I'd have gone ballistic. (I know this is to do with my contract in the US ending and being re-signed, but had thought it was all sorted. But who sends out letters like that without a reason and nothing on file?!)

ljubljana, Thursday, 19 April 2012 00:22 (twelve years ago) link

In fact you prob have an OHS case for the noise level I would hazard a guess.

I was thinking this, too. I would certainly meet with a supervisor or HR if necessary and explain why this is bothering you and ask to move. And check applicable workplace safety regs about this kind of thing.

Polly biscuit face (carl agatha), Thursday, 19 April 2012 01:06 (twelve years ago) link

if the printer is jammed, fix it! don't act like the printer is a mysterious machine. open enough of the panels, and you will find the source of the jam. don't stare helplessly at it like a baby.

rayuela, Thursday, 19 April 2012 15:11 (twelve years ago) link

the problem is - i have no idea how to measure weather or not the noise level is too much ("too much" according to the provincial OHS guidelines). i don't want to stir up shit - and i've already brought it up with both by superiors who are "working on it".

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 19 April 2012 15:31 (twelve years ago) link

I know the passive-aggressive approach is generally NAGL, but one approach would be to wear earplugs and not respond to anyone who isn't in your line of sight.

improvised explosive advice (WmC), Thursday, 19 April 2012 15:33 (twelve years ago) link

approach approach approach argh

improvised explosive advice (WmC), Thursday, 19 April 2012 15:33 (twelve years ago) link

Around here when the printer runs out of paper, they only use about 1/4 to 1/2 a ream to refill it. The machine is meant to hold 1 full ream, and the tray is very deep, so why do they do that?

I long ago gave up expecting them to fix paper jams or anything slightly mechanical. I thought they were feigning ignorance and incompetence so b/c they knew I could fix shit, but the last time a paper jam happened on my day off, somebody mangled the innards while trying to clear the jam.

xp to rayuela

People aren't for comparing, they are for loving. (Je55e), Thursday, 19 April 2012 15:37 (twelve years ago) link

that drives me nuts too! so many people just put a handful of sheets in.

what drove me nuts is my supervisor was just looking confusedly at the sheet of paper in his hand, and looking helplessly at the printer, so when i started opening panels, he was like wow, you know the secret to this printer, and i was like, it's just opening a bunch of panels! and the only reason i was there was because i had to print something, and i just know that if i hadn't come by, he would likely have abandoned it (just like all the people before did, because it evidently had been jammed for a little bit)

rayuela, Thursday, 19 April 2012 15:56 (twelve years ago) link

basically - what i do is if i have to fix a jam when i know someone else walked away from it, is delete their job and move mine ahead of the others. not going to fix the thing AND wait for their doc to spit out!

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 19 April 2012 16:01 (twelve years ago) link

I don't think I care as much about all the ways people eat animal testicles as the coworker who just spent 15 minutes telling me about all the ways people eat animal testicles seems to think I do.

Polly biscuit face (carl agatha), Thursday, 19 April 2012 16:13 (twelve years ago) link

Haha. Was it your dumb boss?

What bugs me a lot is when there is a paper jam or other malfunction, and rather than come whining to me about it, they leave the printer for dead and move on to one of the other, smaller printers. E.g., yesterday, the big fancy printer had a weird error, so the associate guy starts sending huge print jobs to the little printer/fax machine.

People aren't for comparing, they are for loving. (Je55e), Thursday, 19 April 2012 17:03 (twelve years ago) link

And once the big printer was fixed, he never switched back. So the fax machine was out of paper and a couple faxes were mixed in with his stupid print jobs.

AND THE PRINT JOBS WERE UNNECESSARY. Because he prints literally every single email and every single attachment.

People aren't for comparing, they are for loving. (Je55e), Thursday, 19 April 2012 17:05 (twelve years ago) link

No, the one competent IT guy. Oh the price I pay for competent IT support.

Polly biscuit face (carl agatha), Thursday, 19 April 2012 17:23 (twelve years ago) link

the other printer jammed and someone just left it!

rayuela, Thursday, 19 April 2012 19:25 (twelve years ago) link

we got whiteboards at work and people have been putting like inspirational quotes on them and one of our VPs attributed a quote to "ghandi"

congratulations (n/a), Thursday, 19 April 2012 20:45 (twelve years ago) link

I noticed today that I have been sighing a lot, like really deep, drawn out sighs and I bet it is really annoying! I really hate my job though, and it's making me sigh with bone-deep weariness.

Anyway, I'm sorry coworkers for being stupid and annoying.

Polly biscuit face (carl agatha), Thursday, 19 April 2012 21:58 (twelve years ago) link

I sigh a lot but its because Im always a bit out of breath - which, I've only recently found out is partly due to a badly deviated septum (ie cant breathe thru my nose). I know it annoys ppl, theyre always saying "whats wrong?". NOTHING I JUST CANT BREATHE STFU

fix it with like some music glue (Trayce), Thursday, 19 April 2012 22:22 (twelve years ago) link

I don't even think I can coherently explain what is happening, so great is my rage, but suffice it to say that our IT department is probably the most useless IT department ever. EVER.

Polly biscuit face (carl agatha), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 19:32 (twelve years ago) link

No wait fine I cane explain it:

I have to watch a bunch of surveillance videos.
It's all in .mov files.
I cannot open those files on my computer.
After some Laurel and Hardy style back and forth with an IT guy who opened a bunch of .jpeg files also on the disc and insisted that they were the videos, I finally convinced him that I could not open the files.
All I need is for someone with admin privileges to install QuickTime.
Nobody will do that because why do I need to watch movies at work?
I am supposed to finish this very time sensitive project today, and cannot do so without watching all of this surveillance.
IT is like "Yeah, sorry."

Polly biscuit face (carl agatha), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 19:34 (twelve years ago) link

Oh good, I just submitted a work order so there would be documentation that I tried to remedy this when I get a raft of shit for not finishing this on time. I all but stamped URGENT all over it, marked it high priority, put TIME SENSITIVE in the subject line. I just got the "Hey we got your trouble ticket!" email back and it's assigned low priority to the IT guy who doesn't know the difference between a .jpeg and a video file.

Polly biscuit face (carl agatha), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 19:36 (twelve years ago) link

If you have a USB thumb drive you could install portable VLC onto it and watch them in that; that's what I used to do in the school computer labs when I had to write film papers.

Time, a group with Jam and Lewis (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 19:40 (twelve years ago) link

That's amazing.

People aren't for comparing, they are for loving. (Je55e), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 19:46 (twelve years ago) link

Is your IT support off-site? That is the worst of the worst--at least if you have folks on-site you can drag them into your office and refuse to let them leave until they've fixed the problem. Off-site, they can just blow you off forever and ever amen.

quincie, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 19:49 (twelve years ago) link

how the hell can he not tell the difference between a jpg and a movie?! like... one moves and the other does not.

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 19:52 (twelve years ago) link

Like what's their excuse for not installing QuickTime for you? I just don't get the logic there esp since its quite apparent you DO need to watch videos for your job

Time, a group with Jam and Lewis (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 19:53 (twelve years ago) link

They are right down the hall. I only got as much attention as I did is because I walked in there and demanded assistance. ~ 60% of the time of you just submit a trouble ticket you get no response at all.

The joegs played as a slide show so he said that was a movie.

They say they can't install QuickTime. I said log me in as an admin and I'll do it. They were like "LOL aren't you funny!"

Polly biscuit face (carl agatha), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 19:55 (twelve years ago) link

joegs. Hahaha

Polly biscuit face (carl agatha), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 19:56 (twelve years ago) link

Oh my God, that is the kind of situation where I find I feel the blood literally draining out of my face with anger.

ljubljana, Wednesday, 25 April 2012 01:33 (twelve years ago) link

i HATE not having admin privileges on my work computer. i understand the reasoning behind it, but my 6 year old desktop almost crashes when i sign in every morning under the weight of practically EVERY program popping up a window that asks me to install updates.

how did we get here how? (ytth), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 02:16 (twelve years ago) link

...they said a slide show of still images was a movie? THESE ARE YOUR IT PEOPLE? Oh my motherfucking god.

fix it with like some music glue (Trayce), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 02:37 (twelve years ago) link

This really is where you go to whomever has asked you to watch these vids, and say "I need X program to even view these files, there's no other way to load them. Its a simple free program, it will take IT 5 mins to install, but they refuse"

Let them HANG. I loathe incompetent IT.

fix it with like some music glue (Trayce), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 02:38 (twelve years ago) link

I'm definitely throwing them under the proverbial bus. It will probably rile up my boss and then nothing will come of it. Eh. Reason number 100000 I'm desperately searching for a new job.

Polly biscuit face (carl agatha), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 02:40 (twelve years ago) link

Your boss seriously will not understand that a slide show is not a movie or that moving pictures exist.

People aren't for comparing, they are for loving. (Je55e), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 04:25 (twelve years ago) link

Why cant they install it, idgi.

fix it with like some music glue (Trayce), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 05:17 (twelve years ago) link

moved to a floor where there's a cluster of americans all together.

holy shit do they talk loud.

they seem nice and friendly though, couple of them even asked why my EARS WERE BLEEDING

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 11:34 (twelve years ago) link

Loud how? Like shouting across a room or standing close but still bellowing?

People aren't for comparing, they are for loving. (Je55e), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 15:07 (twelve years ago) link

In her type-written notes, my boss writes in all caps. She does it b/c she is farsighted and she says that all caps are bigger and therefore easier to read. I hate reading her notes b/c they are NOT EASIER TO READ.

People aren't for comparing, they are for loving. (Je55e), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 15:08 (twelve years ago) link

Can you maybe increase her page size or change the resolution for her computer or take her to get glasses?

Polly biscuit face (carl agatha), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 15:11 (twelve years ago) link

Screen size doesn't matter b/c I'm talking about hard copies.

Just checked: Her deposition abstracts are in Century 14 pt. All caps, of course.

And she wears glasses.

People aren't for comparing, they are for loving. (Je55e), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 15:22 (twelve years ago) link

all caps is def harder to read. using proper upper/lower sentence structure allows the letters that compose a word to form shapes. you don't realize it, but you can identify a word without reading every character because of it's shape. using all caps robs you of this because ever word is basically shaped like a rectangle. although, i get the feeling that info might be lost on yr boss.

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 15:29 (twelve years ago) link

Oh man, just re-reading this thread. Be careful about printing e-mail. I save mine to a disk which I take home at night. I hate finding e-mails mixed in with important print jobs! Also I stopped printing out web pages a million years ago. You can easily pdf them now. I'm like, adapt to technology already!

carl agatha plz keep us updated w/r/t this movie debacle

Time, a group with Jam and Lewis (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 15:44 (twelve years ago) link

Same boss calls me b/c she can't find a PDF of some interrogatories. I go to her office and find the PDF and open it.

She says "Why is that saved under 'Discovery'? I was looking in Pleadings." I'm like....because interrogatories are part of discovery, and they are not pleadings. She seemed confused but didn't say anything.

She knows that interrogatories are discovery and not pleadings! There is no reason they would be saved under pleadings. It's like she can't comprehend that a computer file is still a file that contains related documents, exactly like a paper file.

People aren't for comparing, they are for loving. (Je55e), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 15:52 (twelve years ago) link

I *LIKE* my boss and on the balance she's really great, but it annoys me that she so undervalues the use of computers and pretty basic computer competence.

People aren't for comparing, they are for loving. (Je55e), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 15:55 (twelve years ago) link

loud like talking like a normal person, but to an entire street at once

CA's IT issues are pure gold (from a distance, admittedly)

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 15:59 (twelve years ago) link

I keep telling my colleagues that if they don't take time to learn the technology and the software they are going to find themselves struggling to keep their job when they are in their fifties! Make the time, check with your boss or employer for refresher classes if necessary.

I've worked at some places where they don't even teach you how to use the e-mail. Then if you take an hour or so a week to learn all of the functions, you are made to feel you are "screwing around". These attitudes have to change!

Ding dong associate attorney: Je55e, I haven't been getting emails all day.

Me: That's not good.

AA: I just checked my iPhone and I have a ton of emails that I didn't get on my computer.

Me: I can let Brad (IT guy) know.

AA: Ugh. No. I don't have time to deal with this!

Me: Okay.... Then you don't want me to call him?

AA: No, I don't have time for him to work on my computer. I just need email! [pause...sigh...pause] I'm just letting you know that I can't access email and I need it!

People aren't for comparing, they are for loving. (Je55e), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 19:23 (twelve years ago) link

Your lawyers and my IT dept deserve each other.

Polly biscuit face (carl agatha), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 19:30 (twelve years ago) link

Update!

Since the agency IT guy was bamboozled by a slide show and .mov files, they escalated the ticket to the big time IT people.
A lovely young fellow named Mark just came into my cubicle, logged in as an admin, associated the file time with Windows Media Player and installed Quicktime. Took him five minutes.
I am now watching videos of a guy doing yard work, just as god intended.

Polly biscuit face (carl agatha), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 19:50 (twelve years ago) link

And I totally ratted out the shitty IT guy. "Why couldn't Joey Joe Joe Shabadoo* just associate the file type and install the program yesterday?" I asked. The competent IT guy just shook his head and said, "I really don't know."

*not his real name

Polly biscuit face (carl agatha), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 19:52 (twelve years ago) link

"we're gonna take this project away from you b/c we don't like the results"
...
"we need your help on that project b/c we don't know what to do"
-_-

bnw, Wednesday, 25 April 2012 20:18 (twelve years ago) link

my supervisor doesn't understand basic technology. "so, here, where it says 'title' in the search field, does that search everything? or just titles?"

we're redesigning the website so every phone convo w/the designers takes twice as long because of questions like that. and then he repeats things that have already been clarified because he needs to reclarify them.

he's a really really nice guy but sometimes these questions boggle me!

rayuela, Wednesday, 25 April 2012 21:06 (twelve years ago) link

he repeats things that have already been clarified because he needs to reclarify them.
my work life & the reason every meeting takes three times as long as it needs to.

gyac, Wednesday, 25 April 2012 22:43 (twelve years ago) link

One thing I think about a lot, which sounds like it might apply to your situation: When and why does a person stop learning? He clearly has enough ability to operate a mouse and do some other stuff. If he's like some of the people I work with, he might know a few more "advanced" things. All those things had to be learned. (Learning to use a mouse from scratch takes a little effort!) But then there are some things that just DO NOT stick. I wonder if they thought in the 80s and 90s "learning the computer" was something they did once and were done with, not something ongoing as technology changed.

People aren't for comparing, they are for loving. (Je55e), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 22:48 (twelve years ago) link

Earlier today a partner and the associate (the one w/ no email) and I had to electronically file 3 motions in federal court and messenger courtesy copies to the judge. We were seriously behind and I was the only one if the office who knew how to:

- redact from a PDF
- print to the letterhead tray
- convert Word to PDF
- electronically file
- operate a two-hole punch

The partner ran around going "How can I help you? Tell me what to do to help you!" I had to do my work + walk him through printing to a certain tray and use the 2-hole punch. He messed up the printing and the associate tried to help, but he couldn't figure it out either.

People aren't for comparing, they are for loving. (Je55e), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 22:55 (twelve years ago) link

My mom barely knows how to change channels on the cable and bought herself an ipad.

- operate a two-hole punch

OK serious lol @ this

fix it with like some music glue (Trayce), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 23:29 (twelve years ago) link

It is literally true.

People aren't for comparing, they are for loving. (Je55e), Thursday, 26 April 2012 00:43 (twelve years ago) link

You work in The Office.

fix it with like some music glue (Trayce), Thursday, 26 April 2012 00:57 (twelve years ago) link

Teach me how to redact from a pdf.

ljubljana, Thursday, 26 April 2012 02:24 (twelve years ago) link

I just got back from a week off work and there was some fun while I was away. there was a colleague's last day, and they had a farewell afternoon tea for him. Literally five minutes before it starts an unhinged volunteer who works here races into the CEOs office and demands that the leaving person be fired because of something that happened 18 months ago that he refuses to actually discuss or explain.

And then at the tea itself, another volunteer went berserk about a climate change action poster we've had in the window for more than a year, but which she just noticed, and demanded that we removed it because climater change isn't real and "the icebergs are only melting because there's too much water in the Northern Hemisphere".

seven league bootie (James Morrison), Thursday, 26 April 2012 02:39 (twelve years ago) link

so a new hire with ad agency experience was asked to give us lessons on how to make better looking powerpoint presentations. one of these recommendations was to use "elephant" (bold) as the font for all titles and headers. HAVE YOU SEEN THIS FUCKING FONT? now it's all over everyone's presentations. IT IS SO UGLY AND I HATE IT!

how did we get here how? (ytth), Thursday, 26 April 2012 02:40 (twelve years ago) link

Teach me how to redact from a pdf.

Tools>Redaction>Mark for redaction>Apply redactions. Or you can do Find & redact via advanced find.

I covet Acrobat X b/c it can automatically find and redact portions of text that appear to social security numbers, email addresses, addresses, etc.

Pita Malört (Je55e), Thursday, 26 April 2012 02:54 (twelve years ago) link

James, that's bizarre. That person wanted the person fired even though s/he was already leaving? Is that volunteer actually nuts?

ytth, assuming it's this Elephant

http://i.imgur.com/s5Ig7.jpg

but hoping it's this one

http://i.imgur.com/WVvH2.png

Pita Malört (Je55e), Thursday, 26 April 2012 02:59 (twelve years ago) link

Literally five minutes before it starts an unhinged volunteer who works here races into the CEOs office and demands that the leaving person be fired because of something that happened 18 months ago that he refuses to actually discuss or explain.

Hahahah wtf!? So what ended up happening?

fix it with like some music glue (Trayce), Thursday, 26 April 2012 03:12 (twelve years ago) link

My aforementioned supervisor keeps asking if we should download nitro for all our PDF needs when acrobat x comes loaded on all our computers. Every time we need to edit a PDF or something, "so should we all just download nitro?" acrobat x does everything we need!

rayuela, Thursday, 26 April 2012 03:13 (twelve years ago) link

Nitro is good for MAKING pdfs, tho! I use it for that. That or Primo.

fix it with like some music glue (Trayce), Thursday, 26 April 2012 03:14 (twelve years ago) link

I've made such identifying comments in my last two posts that I'm slightly paranoid he will find it but I rest easy in the thought that if he doesn't understand how the search function works, he is probably not the type to be on this site. Xp

rayuela, Thursday, 26 April 2012 03:15 (twelve years ago) link

I dunno we can create PDFs from word with acrobat x. Does it do anything special? Maybe I've dismissed his ideas out of hand because I distrust any of his technology-related statements.

rayuela, Thursday, 26 April 2012 03:16 (twelve years ago) link

You know Word can just save as a PDF now?

Dale, dale, dale (Abbbottt), Thursday, 26 April 2012 03:43 (twelve years ago) link

Im usually PDFing scans, I cant think of the last time I used word tbh.

fix it with like some music glue (Trayce), Thursday, 26 April 2012 03:44 (twelve years ago) link

I was just baffled someone would not know how to "convert Word to PDF." SAVE AS
SAVE AS

Dale, dale, dale (Abbbottt), Thursday, 26 April 2012 03:49 (twelve years ago) link

Oh I didn't realize it was native to word now! For some reason thought that function was some relationship btwn acrobat & word

rayuela, Thursday, 26 April 2012 04:08 (twelve years ago) link

Literally five minutes before it starts an unhinged volunteer who works here races into the CEOs office and demands that the leaving person be fired because of something that happened 18 months ago that he refuses to actually discuss or explain.

Hahahah wtf!? So what ended up happening?

The CEO said 'Why didn't you tell anyone earlier?', the volunteer went berserk and stormed out, the CEO took the rest of the weerk off

seven league bootie (James Morrison), Thursday, 26 April 2012 04:21 (twelve years ago) link

lol je55e

it's the first one, but it looks way more normal there than saying "SYNDICATED DATA RECAP Q1 2012" in bold on a blue background.

how did we get here how? (ytth), Thursday, 26 April 2012 04:22 (twelve years ago) link

James: yike. Does anyone know if whatever-it-was was true? I'm imagining awful scenarios like nutty volunteer claiming sexual harrasment and realising they have to jump on it NOW because person is leaving, or thinking they should be fired because that way they wont get leaving benefits because person is grudgeful, or ... lord only knows.

fix it with like some music glue (Trayce), Thursday, 26 April 2012 04:25 (twelve years ago) link

knowing the personalities involved, i would be amazed if it was anything other than bitter reactionary man misunderstanding flamboyant gay foreign man's jokes

seven league bootie (James Morrison), Thursday, 26 April 2012 05:53 (twelve years ago) link

I was just baffled someone would not know how to "convert Word to PDF." SAVE AS
SAVE AS

Reaction would be "HOW DO YOU DO 'SAVE AS'????" at least from most of them.

Pita Malört (Je55e), Thursday, 26 April 2012 14:14 (twelve years ago) link

Man, just from my typing, you guys can probably tell how bossy I am when explaining computers to people. I lost all my patience after working at Kinko's for two years. I was explaining "save as" to someone older the other day and I had the kind of tone in my voice you use to discipline a mischievous puppy. I realized it but I couldn't stop it.

Dale, dale, dale (Abbbottt), Thursday, 26 April 2012 14:17 (twelve years ago) link

ha ha hahaha!

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 26 April 2012 14:20 (twelve years ago) link

And the thing is I have been explaining Save As etc for 4 years but they just will not grasp it bc they know I can do it for them when they fuck up.

Also annoying: email from boss saying "Please get me _______'s phone number." I get the number from his Outlook address book and email it to him. If I don't send it soon enough he will email me again or call me and ask for it.

If I'm on vacation he emails the associate to ask for numbers.

I've told him that his Contacts list -which he has in his iPhone - list contains all numbers and addresses and he joked "You're my contacts list." "joked"

Pita Malört (Je55e), Thursday, 26 April 2012 14:24 (twelve years ago) link

We are having a big old building-wide fire drill today that requires everybody to exit the building completely and go outside, and they close the building to the public, and then let everybody back in. It takes about an hour.

It's also our agency's bring your kid to work day.

A coworker just rushed out into the hall, breathlessly exclaiming, "The kids are here?" Then she did a weird screamsigh, because she saw the kids, and ran up to one and said, "HIIIII!" in that awful way that people who talk to kids like they are dumb woodland animals instead of people do.

I have a headache.

Polly biscuit face (carl agatha), Thursday, 26 April 2012 14:32 (twelve years ago) link

But speaking of PDFs, a firm where I used to work during law school (so about six years ago) approached me about a year ago about a job and told me that they still use the horrible Word Perfect software that they had when I was there, because it's the only way to create PDFs. I told them that you can save as a PDF right in MS Word now, but she didn't believe me.

Polly biscuit face (carl agatha), Thursday, 26 April 2012 14:33 (twelve years ago) link

Got invited to a fancy award ceremony by a guy who I send my company's reports to. Manager told me I should turn down invite as there is unspecified drama. Month later, owner sponsored a table, invited most of the girls but me. :( It's tonight, so everyone is dressed up, giggling, there's a hint of exclusivity (they gather around the desk of the girl beside me and whisper excitedly about it) and I want to be all WHATEVER BITCHES I WAS INVITED FIRST. :P

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Thursday, 26 April 2012 14:34 (twelve years ago) link

Bright side: I left the job where my boss would email me to look up things she saved on her own computer!

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Thursday, 26 April 2012 14:37 (twelve years ago) link

I'm going to stop griping about my job for a while. I like my job and the frustrations could be greater, but they are still frustrating.

ca, I was hoping you were going to say that that person screamed in panic b/c she wanted to save the kids from the fictional fire.

Pita Malört (Je55e), Thursday, 26 April 2012 14:48 (twelve years ago) link

No, but I heard one kid in the hall just now say, in reference to a very randomly placed (at kid height, even) fire extinguisher that appeared on the wall outside our office a couple of weeks ago, "If there's a fire, I'm going to spray that on it and put it out."

Thanks, kid.

Polly biscuit face (carl agatha), Thursday, 26 April 2012 15:21 (twelve years ago) link

we had a pizza party yesterday and someone claimed all the leftover pizza. there's just like 4 slices left, but someone wrapped them all in cellophane and put a red dot on it. seems odd to do that, i think...

rayuela, Thursday, 26 April 2012 17:12 (twelve years ago) link

coworker posted ' (X) Awards tonight. Common (brand she manages)!!'

Naturally manager & I began DMing each other Common People lyrics with the brand name stuck in. Heh.

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Thursday, 26 April 2012 17:24 (twelve years ago) link

argh! every time i see that pile of hoarded pizzas, i have to fight the urge to just take one.

rayuela, Thursday, 26 April 2012 19:18 (twelve years ago) link

Do it!

Also Je55e I hope you keep posting about your coworkers/bosses because it gives me the lolz and makes me feel better about myself and my colleagues! It is a public service!

quincie, Thursday, 26 April 2012 20:32 (twelve years ago) link

replace the red dot with a sticker with another coworker's name on it.

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 26 April 2012 20:42 (twelve years ago) link

put my name on it!

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Thursday, 26 April 2012 20:43 (twelve years ago) link

hehe. i wanted to put a green dot on it. maybe i will go do just that. (i wish it had the perpetrator's name on it!)

i agree w/quincie -- je55e's co-worker related rants are always amusing.

rayuela, Thursday, 26 April 2012 20:44 (twelve years ago) link

(i just did it. i feel kind of guilty!)

rayuela, Thursday, 26 April 2012 20:47 (twelve years ago) link

no the green dot is classic - just enough to fuck with them :)

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Thursday, 26 April 2012 20:48 (twelve years ago) link

excellent move!

Who pays for this pizza, anyway? Unless it is the pizza hoarder, idgi.

quincie, Thursday, 26 April 2012 20:50 (twelve years ago) link

haha. it was an office party (yesterday was administrative professionals day!) so i think the office paid for it. my ex-catholic guilt is creating scenarios in which the red-dot was completely justified, but i think i'll just repress for the next 5 minutes and forget about it on the ride home.

rayuela, Thursday, 26 April 2012 20:54 (twelve years ago) link

green dot is innocent enough, i'll have none of your catholic guilt!

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 26 April 2012 21:02 (twelve years ago) link

LOL. rayuela, I think you did the right thing! Unless that red dot was there to signify infection, it pretty clearly is a sign of a claim on the pizza and that seems totally messed up. It's community pizza.

Pita Malört (Je55e), Thursday, 26 April 2012 21:03 (twelve years ago) link

and thanks for making me feel better about my complaining.

Pita Malört (Je55e), Thursday, 26 April 2012 21:04 (twelve years ago) link

Haha. Thanks everyone! I no longer feel as guilty.

rayuela, Thursday, 26 April 2012 21:09 (twelve years ago) link

well, i just got offered a new job today, so i won't have to put up with stupid elephant powerpoint presentations for long. i have kept most of the stories about my awful current job out of this thread due to paranoia, but GODDAMN am i excited to be leaving!

how did we get here how? (ytth), Friday, 27 April 2012 02:03 (twelve years ago) link

Always the best feeling, knowing you can jump with impunity! :)

Ugh chip-crunching boss is sitting behind me making these constant very loud sighy deep breathing sounds. Its very weird and distracting, either she has a cold or she's trying not to cry/has been crying, the room is so quiet tho, its all I can hear. Why must I be so easily set off by these things *jams on headphones*.

fix it with like some music glue (Trayce), Friday, 27 April 2012 02:05 (twelve years ago) link

Not to point fingers but didn't you say you made weird breathey noises yrself?

Time, a group with Jam and Lewis (Stevie D(eux)), Friday, 27 April 2012 04:31 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah, well spotted haha. but I dont do it all the time, and mine are actual sighs (that sound like annoyed sighs). this was a constant heavy breathing kind of thing, like she couldnt breathe, it was going on for ages. It was weird because it isnt normal for this person.

fix it with like some music glue (Trayce), Friday, 27 April 2012 04:32 (twelve years ago) link

I'm back.

- Phone calls to our firm go to one of two secretaries in our remote office.
- Everyone in our office prefers written (emailed) messages instead of voice mail (email is immediate and half the time I or somebody else transcribe and email voice messages, adding room for error)

- Secretaries are terrified to tell a caller that someone is on vacation (even when instructed to do so)
- Secretaries are terrified to request that the caller leave a message with them instead of a voice mail (it's not scary or difficult!)
- Even when they do take a message, the secretaries are terrified to ask:
1. Person's last name/spelling of person's name
2. Why they're calling
3. If they need immediate assistance
4. For basically any info except what the caller volunteers, including a phone number where they can be reached

Thank you for listening.

Pita Malört (Je55e), Friday, 27 April 2012 17:21 (twelve years ago) link

Seems like they are bad secretaries.

raw feel vegan (silby), Friday, 27 April 2012 17:37 (twelve years ago) link

seems like they need to be MORE terrified of something else. if you catch my drift.

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 27 April 2012 17:40 (twelve years ago) link

They're pretty bad. But their direct boss is terrible and he has encouraged their badness. He does virtually no work, so he's really paranoid about them telling people he is out of the office.

They should be terrified of me mushroom stamping them and their boss.

Pita Malört (Je55e), Friday, 27 April 2012 18:12 (twelve years ago) link

I don't know what mushroom stamping is, but if it is along the lines of green-dotting pizza I encourage you to pursue this.

quincie, Friday, 27 April 2012 18:13 (twelve years ago) link

i have no idea what it means either but it makes me think of super mario

congratulations (n/a), Friday, 27 April 2012 18:13 (twelve years ago) link

1. A mushroom stamp 594 up, 127 down
when a male slaps his penis off the forehead of another individual, leaving a mushroom-shaped mark.

buy mushroom stamp mugs & shirts

Pita Malört (Je55e), Friday, 27 April 2012 18:14 (twelve years ago) link

like in super mario?

congratulations (n/a), Friday, 27 April 2012 18:15 (twelve years ago) link

i don't remember super mario doing that!

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 27 April 2012 18:20 (twelve years ago) link

i'm talking about the super mario movie.

congratulations (n/a), Friday, 27 April 2012 18:21 (twelve years ago) link

the famous scene where bob hoskins slaps his penis off of john leguizamo's forehead, leaving a mushroom-shaped mark

congratulations (n/a), Friday, 27 April 2012 18:22 (twelve years ago) link

oh right. yes.

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 27 April 2012 18:25 (twelve years ago) link

My mushroom stamp is in the shape of a portobello.

Pita Malört (Je55e), Friday, 27 April 2012 18:43 (twelve years ago) link

With spores.

Pita Malört (Je55e), Friday, 27 April 2012 18:44 (twelve years ago) link

Hush.

Polly biscuit face (carl agatha), Friday, 27 April 2012 18:51 (twelve years ago) link

nothing beats watching your boss slack off for the majority of the day and then tell you at 5:30 you have to work late because we're behind on our jobs. >:(

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 30 April 2012 21:48 (twelve years ago) link

Oh I didn't realize it was native to word now! For some reason thought that function was some relationship btwn acrobat & word

― rayuela, Thursday, 26 April 2012 05:08 (4 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

It is if your company still makes you use Office 2003.

gyac, Monday, 30 April 2012 22:07 (twelve years ago) link

I'm a bit worried about the integrity of a penis that's actually able to leave a visible mark on a person when whacking someone's head. What are these people, Iron Man?

fix it with like some music glue (Trayce), Monday, 30 April 2012 23:13 (twelve years ago) link

> It is if your company still makes you use Office 2003.

*SOBS*

that said, any documentation i write is always better done in html than Word but then i think this is universally true.

koogs, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 08:34 (twelve years ago) link

It is if your company still makes you use Office 2003.

― gyac, Monday, April 30, 2012 11:07 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Thought it was at least better than 2007, but 2010 is moving further into the past.
The ECDL courses held locally are just running their last 2003 based courses before moving onto the 2010 after the summer,. Does that make me feel the course i'm on is even more futile? I dunno, was glad to get a day off today even if it was cos I was ill.

Stevolende, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 18:06 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah 2003 is a relic. I wonder what percentage of largeish offices still use it & are never going to upgrade? I read somewhere that XP is still incredibly popular, like 50% or something of current systems still use it.

gyac, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 19:55 (twelve years ago) link

I am a secret rebel holdout of still using 2003 at my work, we were meant to upgrade to 2007 last year (!) but I fear my undeserved office reputation as the "Excel guru" will evaporate once I install 2007 and spend the next 6 years going "where the hell are my menu options"

also in 2003 I can create VBA macros that run on 2003 or 2007, but when I gave the task to a coworker on 2007 he couldn't get it to work. but he probably just chose some completely random file format to save as, because I probably said "I think you have to save as .xlsm because that is for macros, but I don't know because I'm still on 2003" and all he heard was "I don't know" so he thought "well I know everything so I am going to pick 'save as Lotus Notes 1983 edition'"

seriously we gave him books and training materials etc when he started and he flicked backwards through about 3 random pages from near the end and said "well it's all very simple because I already know programming", and I assure you he did not "know programming". and he tells us every day how he knows a lot about computers and is very logically and technically minded, and it doesn't seem to have crossed his mind that anyone else in an office of computer programmers might also have any level of computer knowledge, or that the screaming fuckups he makes daily might possibly be slightly incongruous from such a logical mind

(deep breath)

instant coffee happening between us (a passing spacecadet), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 20:46 (twelve years ago) link

I'm XP and 2007. Holding out until it is a "convenient" time for me to get used to a new OS and MSOffice, which c'mon that will never be convenient.

quincie, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 23:06 (twelve years ago) link

I wish they'd upgrade me to Windows 7 so I could use all of my RAM. XP can only use 1/2 of what is installed.

Pita Malört (Je55e), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 14:51 (twelve years ago) link

Please. Stop saying "What say you?" in your emails.

on the road to the twilight zone (doo dah), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 15:06 (twelve years ago) link

I could easily use 4x the RAM I do now.

gyac, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 17:02 (twelve years ago) link

no it is not 'freezing' you just aren't wearing very much, touch that dial and i will bleed you

underleg aeroboots i have smithed (darraghmac), Friday, 4 May 2012 09:05 (twelve years ago) link

seriously, just cover your arms, you'll feel a lot warmer.

give me back my 200 dollars (NotEnough), Friday, 4 May 2012 09:08 (twelve years ago) link

oh fuck yes maybe try dressing for the outside not for 2 weeks in Barbados

like Joe Pasquale and Gandhi (Noodle Vague), Friday, 4 May 2012 09:09 (twelve years ago) link

also, while i'm on, you know why it's quiet in here? because i'm trying to do some fucking work.

(not now, obv)

like Joe Pasquale and Gandhi (Noodle Vague), Friday, 4 May 2012 09:10 (twelve years ago) link

don't make me quote health and safety don't make me be that guy cos i got that guy in me and you don't wanna meet that guy.

underleg aeroboots i have smithed (darraghmac), Friday, 4 May 2012 09:12 (twelve years ago) link

also while i'm on, i respect your right to hold whatever opinions you like about physical chastisement of children but when you work in education maybe best save that one for home hmmm?

like Joe Pasquale and Gandhi (Noodle Vague), Friday, 4 May 2012 09:15 (twelve years ago) link

i notice yanks didn't address my earlier question maybe they didn't hear me over the BRAYING HAWS of this mountainous amadán to my right

underleg aeroboots i have smithed (darraghmac), Friday, 4 May 2012 09:16 (twelve years ago) link

could be a long one

underleg aeroboots i have smithed (darraghmac), Friday, 4 May 2012 09:16 (twelve years ago) link

no i can't 'guess' that applicant's social security number, if i could do that i'd be a multiple lottery winner and i would never have had to meet you

underleg aeroboots i have smithed (darraghmac), Friday, 4 May 2012 09:19 (twelve years ago) link

lol when's yr lunch break? suggest pub

like Joe Pasquale and Gandhi (Noodle Vague), Friday, 4 May 2012 09:22 (twelve years ago) link

It's been two hours. Do you think he murdered someone and was taken to jail?

Also this?

no it is not 'freezing' you just aren't wearing very much, touch that dial and i will bleed you

― underleg aeroboots i have smithed (darraghmac), Friday, May 4, 2012 9:05 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

is my coworker with whom I share an office. Jesus H, she is tiny and always cold and the second the temp rises above 60, wears short sleeves and no jacket and even though she has worked in this office for over 7 years and knows how fucked the climate control is in the building, she will not bring a sweater to work. In fact, for years she kept a portable heating running under her desk all summer while she sat and worked in short sleeves but the electrical in our building is also fucked so she kept blowing fuses on our hall with it.

Polly biscuit face (carl agatha), Friday, 4 May 2012 12:20 (twelve years ago) link

i was sent to do archiving, i think my pre-homicide facial tics are my 'tell'.

underleg aeroboots i have smithed (darraghmac), Friday, 4 May 2012 13:16 (twelve years ago) link

Good. I don't know how I would manage to get you a cake with a file baked into it from way over here.

Polly biscuit face (carl agatha), Friday, 4 May 2012 14:20 (twelve years ago) link

Judging from the last issue and also the jpg of that guitarist thing SPIN seems to be moving towards infographics that *look* cool but are somewhat confusing to actually read, which seems to defeat the purpose of an infographic

a parker full of poseys (Stevie D(eux)), Friday, 4 May 2012 15:28 (twelve years ago) link

ooops!

a parker full of poseys (Stevie D(eux)), Friday, 4 May 2012 15:28 (twelve years ago) link

supervisor in meeting yesterday: "so, this search function always finds type x?"
us: "yes"
supervisor: "well will it do y?"
us: "no, only x"
supervisor: "well what about z, will it do z?"
us: "no, only x."

rayuela, Friday, 4 May 2012 15:30 (twelve years ago) link

hi left hand, this is right hand. i have no idea what the fuck you're doing!

gyac, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 17:10 (twelve years ago) link

Not a bitch, just a little WTF:

In the parking lot, my boss mentioned casually to K3nny, the overly-helpful custodian that she'd like him get rid of the ugly fake ficus in the hallway. Later I was driving and I missed 2 calls, got 2 voice mails, and 1 text message. K3nny had called me once, then had the associate attorney call me once, and then had him text me, all to ask me which tree my boss wanted removed. DUDE, it's not an emergency! The tree isn't on fire and it's been sitting there looking ugly for 4 years!

Pita Malört (Je55e), Thursday, 10 May 2012 20:08 (twelve years ago) link

read that as "ugly face ficus" at first.

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 10 May 2012 20:37 (twelve years ago) link

went to get coffee with coworkers for the first time at this job. Overheard: "i worked in the apple store in washington dc and we got stuff stolen all the time. there were three teams of, shall I say, 'young urban youths' who would cycle through. youths of the same skin color, you know. i was never racist until i lived above chinatown and in washington dc. we should not love all people equally"

akm, Thursday, 10 May 2012 21:28 (twelve years ago) link

Hahhahhaha jesse never stop posting here pls.

xpost to O_o

Dude if that person was working at apple store in DC I can assure him he was dealing with tourists and not DCers wtf don't you pin this on us!

quincie, Thursday, 10 May 2012 21:36 (twelve years ago) link

it was a she, not that that changes anything

akm, Thursday, 10 May 2012 21:40 (twelve years ago) link

I meant to do the he/she thing; brain did not assume but fingers did :(

quincie, Thursday, 10 May 2012 22:10 (twelve years ago) link

The associate's office chair is this

http://i.imgur.com/Tjhnil.jpg

Pita Malört (Je55e), Friday, 11 May 2012 21:59 (twelve years ago) link

ugh I hate those goddamn things

we ended up with 2 of them in our office from some promo about 6 months ago, and two loudmouths claimed them for themselves, mostly to just remind us they were sitting on them. serioulsy, WEEKS of evangelicising abt how great they were and oh you should try it and oh they're wonderful they really are

do they sit on them now? lol, no.

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 11 May 2012 22:28 (twelve years ago) link

The office dog popped the ball today. My boss made it happen when she gave the ball to the dog to play with. Lol. It was really cute and funny for about 60 seconds.

Pita Malört (Je55e), Friday, 11 May 2012 22:31 (twelve years ago) link

Read that as "dog POOPED on the ball" and I'm going to pretend that's what happened.

Polly biscuit face (carl agatha), Friday, 11 May 2012 23:31 (twelve years ago) link

God damn, I got called in the office today and told I can't "do music" for office parties and other events anymore. Someone else is going to do all of the music selection for our events. I'm not "mainstream" enough. I like r & b and rap and oldies wtf. I guess they want more mainstream pop jazz and instrumentals.

The new co-ordinator did not have music classes. I DID. This was not a requirement. I am offended but...I still like my job so okay. It's like for events once or twice a month.

elevator music renditions of pachelbel's canon are the only safe choice

raw feel vegan (silby), Monday, 14 May 2012 17:48 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah well it's for upbeat office events and stuff so no classical, elevator or otherwise. Like sub-WTTW "jazz" is more like it. Because it will make "everyone" happy. I'm not sure it will work but I'm not in a position to contest it, I'm not a professional "events co-ordinator" or something.

Or sub-NPR /public radio / tv or whatever.

casio keyboard "jazz" tune preset

raw feel vegan (silby), Monday, 14 May 2012 18:04 (twelve years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwFpQ2sMXTg

raw feel vegan (silby), Monday, 14 May 2012 18:06 (twelve years ago) link

Anyway, I'm not totally bitching here, I mean everyone here is so nice. I just disagree strongly...perhaps it is my problem...time to sit outside and smoke and lick my wounds I guess.

i read that as "pooped" too!!

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 14 May 2012 19:25 (twelve years ago) link

hey, don't preface things with "i didn't see this up on the site so can you add it?" it's not up there because you never sent it to me, so just send me what you want to put on the site without any of that passive aggressive bs, like why isn't it up yet.

rayuela, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 18:35 (eleven years ago) link

why did you delete all the section breaks???

rayuela, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 20:23 (eleven years ago) link

Ugh dont tell me to do this thing you want to do without elaborating and then say "I dunno, but can you just do it, I'm too busy" when I ask for elaboration. GAH!

Next time someone says "just do whatever" imma goatse the wiki page.

Pureed Moods (Trayce), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 06:02 (eleven years ago) link

goatse with a side of rickroll.

nickn, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 06:46 (eleven years ago) link

Worst sushi combo ever.

Polly biscuit face (carl agatha), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 12:29 (eleven years ago) link

I assume a class teacher would count as a co-worker?
I pointed out the mispelling in the word persue as this teacher yesterday was showing us how to prepare CVs, & on hers it says attention to spelling & grammar. She said it's a word, but 'just because Bill Gates doesn't recognise it.....'
I said I'd never seen it spelt like that, normally 2 Us. Then left it, thinking I might just be not seeing it right the screen it was projected on was one that I had to turn round to see and I think the lighting was odd so I wasn't 100% sure I was seeing right. Plus for some reason I thought there might just be a spelling like that, other than the common one.
A while later she handed out a printed version where i could see it better? I'd checked online dictionaries to make sure i wasn't uninformed to find each one asking me if I had the thing spelt right, or meant the near anagram peruse.
But I let it ride, then got a complex about it obviously.

Stevolende, Thursday, 17 May 2012 06:27 (eleven years ago) link

oddest thing was that she had gone & looked it up online to demonstrate that it was a word, displayed the google results which did have 2 Us, as it would have. It's probably one of the main reasons I was asking myself if I'd seen it properly. But no as the handout showed persue is the 'correct spelling' & nothing to do with what rate lawyers are payed by.

Stevolende, Thursday, 17 May 2012 08:55 (eleven years ago) link

Following up, I was informed that Depeche Mode "doesn't represent us". I listen to Depeche Mode as a consumer, I have Depeche posters in my cubicle and stuff - I don't use that music in events catering unless the occasion calls for alternative or dance music.

Just seems like someone upstairs has a bad temperament.

'oh, you've moved my files'

'yep. i was told to get the file room organised. moving files was an implicit part if the instruction tbh'
'but now my files aren't on my shelf'
'nope, they'll be somewhere else, alright'
'but how can i find them'
'well, we decided on a complex and intricate system known as the alphabet, motherfucker, you may have see it advertised on sesame st once or twice'

please note- i am standing beside a huge poster stating 'ALL FILES ARE NOW IN ALPHABETICAL ORDER BY NAME' and have been lugging files and answering stupid questions all fucking week. And i didn't rly give that last answer, more's the pity.

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Thursday, 17 May 2012 09:27 (eleven years ago) link

Someone from my high school whom I couldn't stand is applying for a job at my employer. More bad attitude on my part, but he was a bully in high school. Really right-wing and religious and judgmental. He may have changed but if he gets hired things will be uncomfortable.

Again, my problem, I guess. Fifty people are applying so it's a good chance he won't get hired.

Ouch, I just accidentally slammed a door on my index finger. There was blood all over the place and bejeebus it hurts! I missed a meeting and got a mini-lecture about that. Help I can barely type, my finger is somewhat numb and bandaged. How long before I quit or am fired.

I can't believe you got a mini-lecture for missing a meeting because you injured yourself. Sheesh.

I'm trying really hard not to turn into Obnoxious Workers Comp Attorney. It's hard!

Polly biscuit face (carl agatha), Thursday, 17 May 2012 14:19 (eleven years ago) link

One of Ytth's bosses wrote ” good rittance, jerk” on his last payslip - he was ” joking” but I think the joke is on him.

just1n3, Thursday, 17 May 2012 15:11 (eleven years ago) link

good remittance

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Thursday, 17 May 2012 15:22 (eleven years ago) link

is the blood in the nail bed or elsewhere? if it's gathering under the nail, you should get it drained. much better than waiting for your nail to fall off for months. (speaking from experience)

rayuela, Thursday, 17 May 2012 15:25 (eleven years ago) link

No the door slammed shut with my index finger on the jamb...it sliced open the underside of my finger. I use my middle finger as a substitute today - not as difficult as I'd thought.

ruh-roh, i enjoy several perks that my temp colleagues don't, including a flexi-rota system where i come in when i want, pretty much, as long as i work so many hours in a month.

As i'm the only person in the building with this option, it's defeating my immediate supervisor, who keeps, essentially, asking me not to do this.

I've explained it several times, referred her to management etc, to no avail. Next time i saunter in (and i have started to saunter out of spite tbh) at 9.30 she'll be over rolling her eyes at me like i'm a moron. I smile and nod, like that moron.

I mean, i'm enjoying it but...

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 10:36 (eleven years ago) link

Co-Worker - "I just HAD to leave the staffroom. Everyone in there is talking ASIAN!"
Me - "Asian?"
Co-Worker - "Yeah, it's really annoying."
Me- "No, Asian??"
Co-Worker - "God, whatever it is they talk over there"
Me- "In Asia."
Co-Worker - "The point is it was really loud."
Me- "Louder than English?"
Co-Worker- "Look just forget it!"

pandemic, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 10:43 (eleven years ago) link

thatsa bingo

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 11:40 (eleven years ago) link

Love pwning idjits like that.

Pureed Moods (Trayce), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 12:12 (eleven years ago) link

workmate one: "I tried to play the moog on the google logo but it didnt do anything, it just went to some search results about some guy who invented it"
Me: "oh no, it totally does work, its a functional synth! You can tweak all the perams and eerything"
smartass workmate two [really snidely]: "nice to know you've got nothing better to do today, then".

Dude what in the fucking fuck is your problem. It takes 3 seconds to click on the logo and see that it works. I coldly pointed out that I'd done said testing BEFORE I CAME TO WORK which shut him up, but he is a total asshole brat, and is starting to get on my nerves in the way only 20 year old nerdboys who think they know everything can.

Pureed Moods (Trayce), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 22:23 (eleven years ago) link

And who gives a shit if I click on a logo that makes noise for five seconds at work anyway? Jesus christ on a pogo stick.

Pureed Moods (Trayce), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 22:23 (eleven years ago) link

kick him in the nuts imo

ban halen (electricsound), Thursday, 24 May 2012 01:27 (eleven years ago) link

If only. I also lolled at the other guy saying "some guy who invented it", to which I said "that guy would be Robert MOOG the inventor of the MOOG". But that guy is fogiven cos he's only like 19, and he is a black metal fan, so he's ok.

Pureed Moods (Trayce), Thursday, 24 May 2012 01:29 (eleven years ago) link

are you posting from work btw :)

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Thursday, 24 May 2012 01:35 (eleven years ago) link

shhhh!

Pureed Moods (Trayce), Thursday, 24 May 2012 01:35 (eleven years ago) link

I'm so glad that my colleague replied to all when responding to an email from the mail room regarding the availability of envelopes. If he hadn't, how would I know that he needs envelopes and printer ink? And I'm grateful to the woman in fiscal who responded to all to inform the colleague that he would have to buy his own printer ink and submit the expense for reimbursement. Mostly, though, I'm happy to have been able to read the heartfelt, "ok thanks" that the colleague sent in return.

carl agatha, Thursday, 24 May 2012 14:38 (eleven years ago) link

The maternity leave replacement wants to CHANGE EVERYTHING!! YAY!!

>:|

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Thursday, 24 May 2012 15:02 (eleven years ago) link

solution is to have a babby really quick and go on your own maternity leave, that'll show 'em.

"Holy crap," I mutter, as he gently taps my area (silby), Thursday, 24 May 2012 20:30 (eleven years ago) link

I have considered that. But the one who is on mat leave was a bit of a hardass, so I'm gonna feel out the next few months before I use my uterus for revenge.

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Thursday, 24 May 2012 20:39 (eleven years ago) link

How hard would it be to fake a pregnancy in order to get maternity leave? Sometimes seems it would be worth the effort.

seven league bootie (James Morrison), Thursday, 24 May 2012 23:13 (eleven years ago) link

I would imagine once you didnt uh... produce a child at some point, you might be a little bit fired.

Pureed Moods (Trayce), Thursday, 24 May 2012 23:28 (eleven years ago) link

Plus in the US, maternity leave is three months unpaid (assuming your employer is large enough, you work at least part time, and you haven't had to take any medical leave in the year prior to the birth). You might as well just quit.

carl agatha, Thursday, 24 May 2012 23:31 (eleven years ago) link

And you have to have been with the current employer for 12 months. And they don't have to hold "your" job for you, just an "equivalent" job.

quincie, Friday, 25 May 2012 01:10 (eleven years ago) link

Mat leave in Canada, at least everywhere I've been (working FT since I was 20) is a year but a certain fraction of your pay. Pretty decent.. But I probably won't fake one. Unless the replacement proves insufferable.

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Friday, 25 May 2012 02:58 (eleven years ago) link

(The government might pay for some of the year; having never been pregnant I've not paid *that* much attention..)

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Friday, 25 May 2012 02:59 (eleven years ago) link

Geez in australia mat leave isnt paid! You get a year but its unpaid. I think some workplaces might choose to pay or part pay a few months, but its not a govt level thing. Yet, anyway.

Pureed Moods (Trayce), Friday, 25 May 2012 04:39 (eleven years ago) link

US maternity leave isn't even maternity leave. It's just three months of general medical leave that you can use for a serious health condition for you or your family, assuming you meet all the criteria listed above. A friend of mine had to be on bed rest for the last six weeks of her pregnancy, so she only got six weeks of leave after the baby was born since she had to use up half of it while she was still pregnant. And employers can make you use your accrued vacation and sick time contemporaneously so when you get back, you have no time off for vacations of illness. And like quincie said, they can replace you as long as they hold an equivalent job open for you. The US is so far behind on this shit it's not even funny. We're number 1, etc.

carl agatha, Friday, 25 May 2012 12:13 (eleven years ago) link

(This is a thing that makes me v. angry, obv.)

carl agatha, Friday, 25 May 2012 12:13 (eleven years ago) link

Good God this is one issue that I get so fucking angry about. We get 6 weeks paid but can take up to three months (FML) which is unpaid beyond the 6 weeks. You can do the thing where you use your vacation/sick time but that isn't really a great option either. These laws also mean that most women work right up until literally the day they give birth assuming they're able to and not on bed rest like CA's friend. Shitty mat leave laws are one of the big reasons having a kid seems so daunting to me. I can't imagine putting a three month old in day care never mind a SIX WEEK OLD! >:o My friends in the UK and Canada get about a year much of which is at full or at least partial pay. That just seems so much more realistic and sensible it's not even funny.

wolf kabob (ENBB), Friday, 25 May 2012 13:26 (eleven years ago) link

UK govt/business is casting envious eyes at those other countries with their shitty maternity leave and non-existent sick pay.

the dumbest fuck to have ever existed (onimo), Friday, 25 May 2012 13:36 (eleven years ago) link

timely chart
http://thinkprogress.org/health/2012/05/24/489973/paid-maternity-leave-us/

I just checked in with my pregnant coworker and she says our company does not pay any mat leave ;_; I was mistaken. However the government pays about 55% of your wage. We also have parental leave instead of just maternity leave, so Dads can stay home too.

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Friday, 25 May 2012 13:39 (eleven years ago) link

"Out of 178 nations, the U.S. is one of three that does not offer paid maternity leave benefits."

wolf kabob (ENBB), Friday, 25 May 2012 13:42 (eleven years ago) link

Thing about that chart is that those are the paid weeks given. A lot of those countries allow you to take more time unpaid if you so choose whereas 12 weeks is the max total in the US that a company legally has to allow.

wolf kabob (ENBB), Friday, 25 May 2012 13:45 (eleven years ago) link

I wonder if conservative America thinks having such poor support for pregnant woman presses abortion rates up or down.

the dumbest fuck to have ever existed (onimo), Friday, 25 May 2012 13:46 (eleven years ago) link

Ha. I glanced quickly at the comments section on that link and saw a couple people mention that possibility.

wolf kabob (ENBB), Friday, 25 May 2012 13:47 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah, we had little choice but to send our little one to daycare at 10 weeks old, because my wife had to go back to work. Thankfully its been a really great place for him and its worked out really well, but, damn does the U.S. approach to maternity leave piss me off. None of this goes to mention the issues with father's getting time off for the birth (not that I'm at all comparing it to the maternity leave issues for mothers themselves, just another annoyance). Like, I got to take a week off when my son was born, but it meant using up the remainder of my vacation for the year.

heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 25 May 2012 13:49 (eleven years ago) link

That should be women, not woman. I'm sure there's more than one of them or this wouldn't be a big deal.

the dumbest fuck to have ever existed (onimo), Friday, 25 May 2012 13:49 (eleven years ago) link

I got two weeks paternity leave on full pay when my kids were born. I also got an extra week off for getting married!

the dumbest fuck to have ever existed (onimo), Friday, 25 May 2012 13:52 (eleven years ago) link

I'm glad it worked out well for your son, Jon. That just sounds so young to me.

I got to take a week off when my son was born, but it meant using up the remainder of my vacation for the year.

Yeah, see that's messed up.

Attitudes towards vacation and sick time are so weird in the US in general. I don't think I talked about it here but I recently got called into a meeting (WITH HR) to discuss my abuse of our sick time. I had used 6 of the 11 days we accrue each year and that's considered abuse. WHY DO WE GET 11 THEN?! Also, I was actually fucking sick. I've also been told that while we get vacation time it's sort of an "unwritten rule" that people don't use it very often.

wolf kabob (ENBB), Friday, 25 May 2012 13:55 (eleven years ago) link

It is so young! It was a really, really hard decision to make, but, in the end, we just couldn't figure out a way to make it work financially any other way. I've always found it weird that so-called "family values" conservatives don't go to more lengths to protect family leave or time off for stuff like this.

heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 25 May 2012 13:58 (eleven years ago) link

Unionise! Educate, agitate, organise!

emil.y, Friday, 25 May 2012 13:59 (eleven years ago) link

I'm in a union and we still have the same shitty maternity leave. I'm allowed to use sick time but that doesn't change my deadline driven workload. Staying home sick means working late to make up time later.

As for conservative America, they only care about children insofar as they can be used to punish sluts who have sex. They don't actually care about the children themselves. (See also: use of children with disabilities for anti abortion rhetoric while cutting programs for children and adults with disabilities.)

carl agatha, Friday, 25 May 2012 14:22 (eleven years ago) link

I recently got called into a meeting (WITH HR) to discuss my abuse of our sick time. I had used 6 of the 11 days we accrue each year and that's considered abuse.

holy shit - i would have been fuming! so they basically accused you of feigning illness? i don't think i would have been able to control my temper if an employer pulled this bs.

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 25 May 2012 14:26 (eleven years ago) link

In my new job people get four months full pay mat leave plus five
Months at something like 90 percent. And can take a whole year in total. People ask me why I wanted to leave the USA; I can't say this is the only reason but it's part of the culture I just don't understand how people live with it (excise shitty phone typing)

kinder, Friday, 25 May 2012 16:07 (eleven years ago) link

UUUUUUGH

I'm in round 433240978 of revising this document. Here's the latest suggested edit:

The version I wrote starts like this: "Among other efforts, the ___ Program has focused..."
That has been scratched that out, and instead the suggested edit is "Amongst other efforts , the ___ Program has focused..."

In google, if you type "among other efforts" in quotations, you get 4 million results. if you type "amongst other efforts", you get 192,000 results.

And it's not even about whether or not it's grammatically correct, it's more like this is the billionth time we've revised this, and THESE are the kinds of edits that are still taking place?
ugh

Mad God 40/40 (Z S), Friday, 25 May 2012 16:16 (eleven years ago) link

and yes, the two words are completely interchangeable, although amongst is more old-fashioned. but god this endless wordsmithing is just fucking nauseating

Mad God 40/40 (Z S), Friday, 25 May 2012 16:17 (eleven years ago) link

Somewhat related, one of my coworkers is wearing a short bearing a large American flag that says "PATRIOTISM" underneath.

xp oh god that kind of crap goes on around here all the time. One coworker is notorious for randomly striking or adding "that" as a clause introducer.

carl agatha, Friday, 25 May 2012 16:23 (eleven years ago) link

is it an editor/proofreader or something? if so, could it be that it's the house style for wherever you are? here we have to make sometimes arbitrary decisions so that our pubs are consistent with each other. but if it's just someone making the decision from a non-editorial standpoint, i agree that that sounds like a pain!

in other news, i am about to go into a meeting. i didn't plan well and am starving. i hope this meeting is SHORT.

rayuela, Friday, 25 May 2012 16:23 (eleven years ago) link

Also in US business English, "amongst" is archaic and pretentious.

carl agatha, Friday, 25 May 2012 16:24 (eleven years ago) link

is it an editor/proofreader or something?

nope, just my boss. she must make some sort of change to every single page, otherwise she doesn't feel that she has "reviewed" it.

Mad God 40/40 (Z S), Friday, 25 May 2012 16:26 (eleven years ago) link

It's the kind of crap lawyers who can't write throw around in their shitty briefs* in an attempt to sound smarter than they are.

* I read shitty lawyer briefs for a living and let me tell you, some of these jokers wouldn't even come close to passing the community college paralegal writing class I teach pwith the mess they file.

Tell her she's being archaic and pretentious and let me know how it goes.

carl agatha, Friday, 25 May 2012 16:27 (eleven years ago) link

My favorite is when I reorganize the entire document according to Wednesday's whim, and then in the throes of Thursday she calls me in and says "I don't understand the organization of this document"

but...you were the one who suggested...and I just spent the entire day redoing the whole...and I ...but..

fuuuuuuuuuuuuu

Mad God 40/40 (Z S), Friday, 25 May 2012 16:27 (eleven years ago) link

one of my main problems with the executive branch is that i have to execute everyone else's orders

Mad God 40/40 (Z S), Friday, 25 May 2012 16:28 (eleven years ago) link

yeah amongst as a house style would be quite silly

rayuela, Friday, 25 May 2012 16:30 (eleven years ago) link

nope, just my boss. she must make some sort of change to every single page, otherwise she doesn't feel that she has "reviewed" it.

OMG this was my old boss when redlining construction drawings. He was just incapable of not marking something up on every single sheet. There were times when it would just be him second-guessing himself on one tiny note over and over because he couldn't let it go without markups.

heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 25 May 2012 18:06 (eleven years ago) link

Just put a single mistake in on purpose so they'll correct it and leave everything else alone.

a parker full of poseys (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 29 May 2012 14:50 (eleven years ago) link

That is actually a strategy, and yes, it sorta works!

Mad God 40/40 (Z S), Tuesday, 29 May 2012 14:57 (eleven years ago) link

Z S, your boss sounds kind of like mine. ~sympathy~

salsa shark, Tuesday, 29 May 2012 15:35 (eleven years ago) link

We should get our bosses to work on a document together, kind of a co-review thing. They'll get stuck in a feedback loop of pointless edits and be stuck there until they retire, and in the meantime we can sneak our stuff through!

Mad God 40/40 (Z S), Tuesday, 29 May 2012 15:42 (eleven years ago) link

"I recommend that we rename the "Background" section the "Overview" section"
"Good idea, and perhaps we should also change the bullets from circles to diamonds?"
"Brilliant. I also want to have a discussion about the Draft watermark - shouldn't it be diagonal?"
"Yes, let's make the change immediately. And change the "Overview" section to "Summary" while we're at it."
"I agree. We'll rename the "Summary" as "Background", and then we should be ready to tackle page 2."

Mad God 40/40 (Z S), Tuesday, 29 May 2012 15:46 (eleven years ago) link

We should get our bosses to work on a document together, kind of a co-review thing. They'll get stuck in a feedback loop of pointless edits and be stuck there until they retire, and in the meantime we can sneak our stuff through!

I have seen this happen and it gets ugly. It doesn't end until one of the parties involved refuses to make further non-substantive changes. But then it gets ugly again when there's another doc to review and the person who got shut down gets revenge via petty, unnecessary vengeance edits.

carl agatha, Tuesday, 29 May 2012 16:48 (eleven years ago) link

Does it end with a big fist fight and both parties getting fired? If so, I still say we should try to make it happen.

Mad God 40/40 (Z S), Tuesday, 29 May 2012 16:52 (eleven years ago) link

Oh dear god I am totally this boss.

I don't know how to stop!

quincie, Tuesday, 29 May 2012 16:57 (eleven years ago) link

So YOU'RE the one!

Trey Imaginary Songz (WmC), Tuesday, 29 May 2012 17:05 (eleven years ago) link

Does it end with a big fist fight and both parties getting fired? If so, I still say we should try to make it happen.

No fist fight but two of the three got transferred to a place where they can't hurt anybody anymore and the third is probably out of here in Jan.

Quincy! You have to learn to trust your staff and your dirt impressions and let go. The perfect is the enemy of the good.

And if you don't trust your staff, you need to retrain them or get new staff.

carl agatha, Tuesday, 29 May 2012 17:06 (eleven years ago) link

dirt impressions? Don't trust Carl. ;)

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Tuesday, 29 May 2012 17:41 (eleven years ago) link

But but but it is better *my* way!

OK I resolve not to be so bad about this. I don't do much editorial work these days, anyway.

quincie, Tuesday, 29 May 2012 18:09 (eleven years ago) link

ugh. dude in cube next to me always has these horrible telephone conversations. all i can hear is his angry, lecturing voice. 100% of his conversations are like this, even when it's about something mundane like "did you get the word doc" or something. i'm not a ball of sunshine, but he's so angry about everything in the world, and it's impossible to tune out.

rayuela, Tuesday, 29 May 2012 18:49 (eleven years ago) link

dirt impressions? Don't trust Carl. ;)

Autocorrect! Ack!!!

carl agatha, Tuesday, 29 May 2012 19:05 (eleven years ago) link

Just gentle teasing :)

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Tuesday, 29 May 2012 19:22 (eleven years ago) link

Our HR manager is an idiot.

Fizzles, Tuesday, 29 May 2012 19:54 (eleven years ago) link

this is not about my co-workers, but it's from an email that the building management company sent out to everyone in the building about proper waste disposal:

• Paper recycling bins are only to be used for paper intended to be discarded and recycled. These bins are not meant for storage and to ensure the safety of your documents, please do not stack files or papers next to the bins.

congratulations (n/a), Tuesday, 29 May 2012 20:27 (eleven years ago) link

This is like people who store computer files in the computer trash. Or a former coworker who would delete emails to get them out of her inbox (bc our work had a size limit) and then go find them in deleted items when she wanted them.

carl agatha, Tuesday, 29 May 2012 20:32 (eleven years ago) link

LOL jesus this world is fucked.

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Tuesday, 29 May 2012 20:33 (eleven years ago) link

Or a former coworker who would delete emails to get them out of her inbox (bc our work had a size limit) and then go find them in deleted items when she wanted them

I worked with a guy who would read through his emails and forward the 'important' ones back to himself so they'd return to the top of the inbox.

He was eventually given a big list of improvements he had to make to his workflow. He did not improve and was eventually fired.

salsa shark, Tuesday, 29 May 2012 22:16 (eleven years ago) link

I'm... not exactly sorry to hear that.

carl agatha, Tuesday, 29 May 2012 22:18 (eleven years ago) link

did this guy later post here as Leif?

Z S

Mad God 40/40 (Z S), Tuesday, 29 May 2012 22:35 (eleven years ago) link

he ended up not being able to find a job for like a year and then went to work at my company's main competitor. lucky them!

salsa shark, Tuesday, 29 May 2012 22:41 (eleven years ago) link

industry historians have attributed much of your main competitor's recent success to the innovative workflow adjustments made by Leif, including his policy that all interoffice email should be printed, scanned, and then faxed back to the original sender as a backup

Mad God 40/40 (Z S), Tuesday, 29 May 2012 22:45 (eleven years ago) link

oh my lol

Did I ever tell you that when I was a union steward, if I wanted to file a grievance I had to: print a copy of a grievance form that our chief steward had emailed to me. Fill out the form by hand. Fax the form back to the union. But the fax number was actually some kind of magic on-line fax scanner that sent the faxed form as an email attachment. When I suggested we could just fill out the form on-line, they were like, Oh no, that will be too hard for people.

carl agatha, Tuesday, 29 May 2012 22:49 (eleven years ago) link

I know these are p moderate annoyances to some ppl but shit like that actually makes me IRRATIONALLY ANGRY, like for real, to the point where I have trouble letting it go and just steam abt how fucking stupid it is.

a parker full of poseys (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 17:24 (eleven years ago) link

I got pretty irrationally angry about it when I was still at work at 7:30 at night "faxing" 40 pages of grievance docs to this fucking email address, especially since the fax machine in our office is a flatbed scanner that will only accept one page at a time (and you have to push "2" after each page you scan if you want to scan another page, which is super intuitive).

Public sector work is the perfect petri dish to see how much irrational anger about completely effed up and inefficient processes you can take and still maintain some semblance of mental health equilibrium.

carl agatha, Wednesday, 30 May 2012 17:32 (eleven years ago) link

I wonder if a lot of it has to do with technology being p much forced on older generations who just don't get it, and if in 30 years when all the execs are from the internet generation things will be better

a parker full of poseys (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 17:37 (eleven years ago) link

I told some 19 y/os about the dude re-emailing himself stuff to keep it at the top of the inbox and they almost cried, they were laughing so hard!

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 17:41 (eleven years ago) link

no... in 30 years the "older generation" will only respond to emails on facebook while everyone else will have their minds directly connected through megainfograb.nz

xpost

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 17:41 (eleven years ago) link

I wonder if a lot of it has to do with technology being p much forced on older generations who just don't get it

The 32 year old associate attorney I work with is pretty fucking bad at everything but very basic computer stuff (e.g., he doesn't know what Ctrl+C, Ctrl=X or Ctrl+V do) which he excuses by saying, "I'm not really a computer guy" and "I'm not very techie."

That is like not being able to do long division b/c you weren't a math major.

Pita Malört (Je55e), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 18:10 (eleven years ago) link

I have several female colleagues who also don't CTRL + C, etc. It's quite frustrating. I got my first computer at around ~16, they probably skewed younger to 10-12 years old!

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 18:12 (eleven years ago) link

The upshot is that every company I've ever worked at has hailed me as some kind of genius, so yay.

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 18:12 (eleven years ago) link

Another thing that guy does that makes me want to give him a wedgie is he uses open windows as his primary/only running to-do list. I would bet $5 that right now he has no fewer than 10 emails open and as many Word files. So, when the power fails for longer than his UPS battery lasts or his computer automatically restarts itself after an update at night, he gets pissy b/c he can't remember what he was supposed to be working on.

Pita Malört (Je55e), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 18:15 (eleven years ago) link

I have people my age who can't figure out google docs but the issue is that PEOPLE DON'T TRY TO FIGURE IT OUT. So many times I've had people come by my desk to ask for how to do this or that, and the reason they don't know is because they didn't take any time to see if they could figure it out by themselves. I feel it's more of an approach to how to learn things than whether one grew up with technology or not. Also 99% of questions related to Microsoft Word are googleable.

rayuela, Wednesday, 30 May 2012 18:16 (eleven years ago) link

PEOPLE DON'T TRY TO FIGURE IT OUT

^this. so frustrating. lately when people call me over to ask things like "where are the watermark settings in Word?" i say "I don't know" (even though I do), and then i use their keyboard and type out "where are the watermark settings in Word?" into google and click on the first result. it's kind of a dick move i guess but i get really sick of being the office's beginning computer tech guy.

Mad God 40/40 (Z S), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 18:26 (eleven years ago) link

also, watching someone sloooooooooowly move up to the Edit menu, then sloooooooooooooowly click on Copy, and then slooooooooooooooooooowly move to another part of the document, and then slooooooooooooooowly move the cursor up to the Edit menu, and then slooooooooooooooooowly click on Paste is sloooooooooowly making me want to rip my eyeballs out

Mad God 40/40 (Z S), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 18:27 (eleven years ago) link

there are all these bullshit trainings that people take all of the time (how to resolve conflicts, how to "think on your feet", whatever) that never have any discernible impact on their work habits. i always want to suggest that they take a 5 minutes and look up keyboard shortcuts for copy and paste, save and undo. just take 5 fucking minutes

Mad God 40/40 (Z S), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 18:29 (eleven years ago) link

if you really want to go crazy, learn how to press print screen and paste the screenshot into an email rather than requesting permission and $149 to buy screenshot software

Mad God 40/40 (Z S), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 18:31 (eleven years ago) link

sorry. *rips eyeballs out*

Mad God 40/40 (Z S), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 18:31 (eleven years ago) link

haha. the slooooooowly thing drives me NUTS but more than that, I'm usually sitting there like, is this how you interact with your computer every day? my immediate supervisor knows that keyboard shortcuts exist, he prefers not to use them. i'll be sitting at his desk, and he'll be showing me something in a paper, and he'll scroooollllll through the entire document (usually 40+ pages). i'm like, pleaaasse just hit ctrl-f and type in the phrase you're looking for!

rayuela, Wednesday, 30 May 2012 18:36 (eleven years ago) link

I have a couple of notoriously smelly coworkers, who smell bad to varying degrees, and one of them walked past me today and I am not kidding, he smelled like people who smoke a lot for a long time and get that awful death smell about them, plus dank and mildewed basement, and filthy, filthy butt. I like this coworker and as he walked past me he smiled and said, "Hey! There she is!" and I started to smile back and then I smelled him and it was like in cartoons when bad smells make flowers wilt and die.

carl agatha, Wednesday, 30 May 2012 19:27 (eleven years ago) link

I feel it's more of an approach to how to learn things than whether one grew up with technology or not.
No lies detected. I am an adult who has her own work to do, not your personal remedial tutor.

I quite often get screencaps or images sent to me embedded in Word docs. That's infuriating.

gyac, Wednesday, 30 May 2012 19:31 (eleven years ago) link

I called my super recently to ask her to forward me an email I didn't have, and she complained that it would take her too long to find it (this was so I could do her a favor btw). The reason? Because she doesn't use the "search folder" function on her emails and never has. She scrolled through probably 4 months of mails to find it.

how did I get here? why am I in the whiskey aisle? this is all so (Laurel), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 19:33 (eleven years ago) link

omg. a coworker of mine screencaps EVERYTHING. and i have to use the data in the screen caps, so i just end up having to type it all out. not to mention that you can't use the search function to find what you're looking for when you have pages and pages of screencaps. also she can't seem to save files with any sort of consistent naming strategy, usually just saves it as whatever default file name pops up. so many times i've needed info, and she's said (somewhat passive aggressively) "did you check the folder?" and i'm like, you mean the folder that has a zillion files that are all named random things that indicate absolutely about the content of the file?" i even went in once and reorganized a folder, renaming all these files, and she thought it was fabulous, but continues her crazy practice of not naming her files at all.

rayuela, Wednesday, 30 May 2012 19:38 (eleven years ago) link

I answer emails on the helpdesk of a library (the librarians email us, not the readers) and many of our queries take the form "hi I can't place a reservation on a book! what is going wrong?" without giving any details of what book

so then we ask for the database ID number of the book, and then the reply is usually either a screenshot in a Word doc that we have to squint at and retype the number from, or they give us the title instead of the ID, except they misspell a few words so we can't copy and paste, and hey, why not do it from memory and rephrase it slightly, or maybe the title is just something like "Annual Report" which is no use for identifying the actual record whatsoever

instant coffee happening between us (a passing spacecadet), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 19:50 (eleven years ago) link

anyway I don't want to bitch about the people who write to the helpdesk because helping them makes me feel like a good and useful person whereas the people I actually have to share office space with make me want to shout and punch things (ok, really just one of them at the moment)

instant coffee happening between us (a passing spacecadet), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 19:51 (eleven years ago) link

I'm amazed that so many tech-challenged people know how to take screen caps!

Pita Malört (Je55e), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 23:07 (eleven years ago) link

i've never been treated like a stupid person before but it's been going on this week and it's breaking my will. Pro tip, my young supervisor friend- if you took maybe two hours to give me some basic training on monday morning then i wouldn't need to put so many ppl on hold to ask you questions that i don't have the answer to. Ps they can get rid of you in a flash, but i'm on a particularly stiff contract so if this turns physical they'll prob take the easy option, consider that before rolling yr eyes at me ever again.

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 23:18 (eleven years ago) link

oh yeah btw i'm on a helpline, that's a telephone helpline, without training. I'll pick it up as i go along, apparently, and i'm helped along by an email after every call telling me what was wrong.

Now *that's* an efficient use of both of our time, you'll go fucking far quickly, you will. Three storeys at 9.8m^2/sec for a start.

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 23:22 (eleven years ago) link

Another thing that guy does that makes me want to give him a wedgie is he uses open windows as his primary/only running to-do list. I would bet $5 that right now he has no fewer than 10 emails open and as many Word files.

aaarghhh the old tech director here did this. And hes *really technically skilled*. But you'd tell him something, he'd go "ok, lets address that later" and then open a fucking new email on his Macbook, address it to me, type up half his notes and then alt-tab (or etf rver the Mac version is) and fling it into the pile of 29835784256837 other things he has open and half finished.

And then 3 months later completely have no idea what you're talkng about cos he never sent/read/actioned various emails... grrr.

Pureed Moods (Trayce), Thursday, 31 May 2012 00:14 (eleven years ago) link

Darragh, anyone you can informally reach out to above your young friend there, or would that be perceived as hostile escalation?

ljubljana, Thursday, 31 May 2012 00:19 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah Darra I'd be ropeable too, I'd say something like "look this is wasting my time and his, take an hour or 2 for training or supply me with notes or SOMETHING".

Pureed Moods (Trayce), Thursday, 31 May 2012 00:34 (eleven years ago) link

training today apparently, should be goid

pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Thursday, 31 May 2012 08:02 (eleven years ago) link

he uses open windows as his primary/only running to-do list.

Is this bad? If I have a reply email waiting on my taskbar, I know it's something I expect to do sometime today (or before I next turn my computer off, at worst), and I regularly scroll through these open emails to keep on top of urgent stuff. Right now I don't have any open replies, but that's the exception, not the rule. Even so, I have 11 open tabs - 3 Word docs, 1 excel, 1 pdf, Act, Outlook and three emails.

I do have a to-do list on paper, too, which has 20 times as many things that need doing as I could even fit on my taskbar. Don't judge me.

Mark C, Thursday, 31 May 2012 11:42 (eleven years ago) link

To-do Bar in Outlook has become my friend since the got the 2007 Office upgrade. So much easier than a paper to-do list.

give me back my 200 dollars (NotEnough), Thursday, 31 May 2012 11:49 (eleven years ago) link

Oh god yeah the todo list combined with the outlook calendar and reminders is my effing BRAIN at work.

Pureed Moods (Trayce), Thursday, 31 May 2012 12:17 (eleven years ago) link

SO easy to just click in the little task line "check blah blah for update", hit enter, add a "9am tomorrow" reminder.

Pureed Moods (Trayce), Thursday, 31 May 2012 12:17 (eleven years ago) link

Mark, the key is:

/he uses open windows as his primary/only running to-do list./

Versus your:
I do have a to-do list on paper, too, which has 20 times as many things that need doing

Pita Malört (Je55e), Thursday, 31 May 2012 15:57 (eleven years ago) link

One of the girls at work is planning her birthday party, and is inviting (mostly?) everyone from work and people who used to work there. I don't want to go to this. Especially if she is charging money for this and the only people I know are going to be people who are always fighting with each other.

tokyo rosemary, Thursday, 31 May 2012 23:12 (eleven years ago) link

Oh, and she asked if had heels, because we are all going to have to dress up and wear them.

tokyo rosemary, Thursday, 31 May 2012 23:22 (eleven years ago) link

"That is so sweet of you to invite me! Thank you! But unfortunately I already have plans*. I hope you have a great time!"

*She needn't know these plans involve sitting at home watching TV and not dressing up and wearing heels.

carl agatha, Friday, 1 June 2012 00:06 (eleven years ago) link

Or maybe I will get lucky and have to work that night.

tokyo rosemary, Friday, 1 June 2012 00:15 (eleven years ago) link

Even better! Then it's ironclad and you don't run the risk of, "Oh! What are you up to???"

carl agatha, Friday, 1 June 2012 00:15 (eleven years ago) link

I would rather pull out my fingernails with pliers than have to go to some girlie night - with WORKMATES - that involved having to wear heels.

Pureed Moods (Trayce), Friday, 1 June 2012 00:16 (eleven years ago) link

Hi Jesse! Thanks, and I guess you're right (update: 13 Outlook tabs, 2 PDF, 3 Word)

Mark C, Friday, 1 June 2012 11:45 (eleven years ago) link

"oh yeah, I don't read any emails that I'm cc'd into. Actually they all go into a folder which I then empty on a regular basis. If people want me to read things they should put me in the To line"

thomasintrouble, Friday, 1 June 2012 12:39 (eleven years ago) link

-three cheers for my awesome manager, taking my colleague to task over a fat joke she made about our mayor on twitter (we are all on twitter, as friends)

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Friday, 1 June 2012 13:32 (eleven years ago) link

Hi Jesse! Thanks, and I guess you're right (update: 13 Outlook tabs, 2 PDF, 3 Word)

My count: 10 folders, 2 PDFs, 4 Word, 4 Excel, 85336890 Chrome tabs.

Pita Malört (Je55e), Friday, 1 June 2012 13:42 (eleven years ago) link

Oh and one IE window bc I have to monitor a second email account that isn't connected to my Outlook.

Pita Malört (Je55e), Friday, 1 June 2012 13:44 (eleven years ago) link

I have an Excel file that I keep pinned in my last 25 items, which has a checklist of what I do on a daily/weekly/monthly basis with 4 columns for each month as well as a notes column and a few "last minute request" rows. I recommend!

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Friday, 1 June 2012 13:48 (eleven years ago) link

Finefinemusic, i hope you don't live in Toronto!

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 1 June 2012 13:50 (eleven years ago) link

I sure do. :(

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Friday, 1 June 2012 14:15 (eleven years ago) link

then who cares? dude sort of brought it upon himself with that idiotic fat challenge (i mean, i'd agree *somewhat* otherwise, aside from the fact that it sounds like this is her private twitter feed and not related to work and therefore not really yr manager business if she's not talking about work)

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 1 June 2012 14:34 (eleven years ago) link

Well, I'm a fat girl so it sucks to see fat jokes by friends and colleagues all over my twitter feed first thing :P The girl in question is one of those particularly skinny Asians who eat whatever they want - and she then condemned the mayor for doing the same. Not a big deal, but it sucked a bit and seeing my manager (who this colleague added on purpose, knowing she's outspoken) defend the fatties was nice. Same colleague has an even more private account which she ALSO added us on and which we usually just ignore because it's full of hatred. :P

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Friday, 1 June 2012 14:57 (eleven years ago) link

(My manager is about 35, me 29, other colleague 30, and the manager is not HER manager, just mine.. so it's generally a friendly situation.)

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Friday, 1 June 2012 14:57 (eleven years ago) link

and all THREE of us went out for cheeseburgers yesterday! Thanks, Grid's Burger Week!

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Friday, 1 June 2012 14:58 (eleven years ago) link

ah - fair enough.
i remember durring the election some of my friends were throwing in bringing his weight into various tweets and posts etc about him. i got a few of them to knock it off, by pointing out there were (are) *so* *many* more relevant things they could be talking about and even mentioning his weight undermined their point.

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 1 June 2012 15:14 (eleven years ago) link

like, we get it - he's a drunk driving liar with an awful record at city hall. you throw "fat" in there and that's all a lot of people will see.
it was a shame he started that whole weigh challenge idiocy (iirc as a distraction to his senseless portlands meddling) - because it gave the weight-mocking a sliver of legitimacy.

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 1 June 2012 15:18 (eleven years ago) link

anyways, we should probably stick to talking about his Fordness on the Toronto thread... back to mocking coworkers!

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 1 June 2012 15:19 (eleven years ago) link

Hah! Fair enough. But yeah the annoyance is fat shaming coming from a person who's never had to worry about being fat, and SO MANY LEGITIMATE COMPLAINTS to choose from about him. Sorry, coworker thread!

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Friday, 1 June 2012 15:36 (eleven years ago) link

I manage X. X is applying for my job (I'm leaving soon). It's an internal position and he's drafting his application during working hours. His work buddy just called him out on it and I overheard X tell his buddy that it's fine because it's an internal position.

I say it isn't, but haven't said so yet and am now (not-I)A at X and IA at myself.

ljubljana, Thursday, 7 June 2012 03:51 (eleven years ago) link

er, isn't fine, I mean. It *is* an internal position... and he should be able to write a strong application.

ljubljana, Thursday, 7 June 2012 03:52 (eleven years ago) link

So I inherited some work from someone who was making a big song and dance about not having time to even think about it, except now she's babysitting the easy parts of said work in tedious detail, so instead of me taking 5 minutes to fill in the self-explanatory admin spreadsheet, I've spent half an hour listening to her ask me what goes in every column and then (after I've already told her the right value) explaining what the column is for again, while I end up telling her what I was going to put in there about 5 times before she puts it in

now she's insisting on going through emails to check all the dates I'm offering, all the while saying "of course the exact dates don't really matter, it's just to get some rough information" - oh, but apparently less "rough" than the ones I've already looked up from the emails?

instant coffee happening between us (a passing spacecadet), Friday, 8 June 2012 09:44 (eleven years ago) link

Getting the 30 minute tutorial to complete the 5 minute task is exhausting. And actually, it sucks from the other side, too, when you just need someone to do something quickly for you and they end up requiring handholding the entire time.

Mad God 40/40 (Z S), Friday, 8 June 2012 12:19 (eleven years ago) link

I have already had the tutorial at least twice and have already filled in the form unattended previously! And I don't need hand-holding, though it may be my fault for radiating such an aura of incompetence that everyone thinks I must. I mean I do have that aura BUT this lady is a super control-freak too, and not just with me.

And I didn't even tell her that the new set of work for that project had come in, she was just... watching everyone else's tickets on our new ticketing system, even though she never picks up any tickets herself.

I do hate being given work which was originally hers, though, as she's guaranteed to complain that it wasn't done right and nobody else does things properly, etc - again, not just with me, though I do feel like I get the brunt of it because I happen to have the skillset to be given most of the tasks she makes a fuss about

(plus she totally looooved the last guy who picked up any of her work, even though he was also slapdash and impunctual which she is always snarky at me for, because he was 1. male 2. goodlooking 3. a lot more patient about nodding and agreeing that her way was the best about everything)

instant coffee happening between us (a passing spacecadet), Friday, 8 June 2012 12:52 (eleven years ago) link

I wish this was on 77

tehresa, Sunday, 10 June 2012 14:28 (eleven years ago) link

Me too. I've said that before here. Someone told me to start a 77 co-workers bitching thread, but I don't want to siphon off any business from this thread.

Je55e, Sunday, 10 June 2012 22:08 (eleven years ago) link

Could this thread be de-indexed?

Je55e, Sunday, 10 June 2012 22:09 (eleven years ago) link

Done.

9 1/2 Gleeks (WmC), Sunday, 10 June 2012 23:20 (eleven years ago) link

Well, I'm a fat girl

you are? nah

It's an internal position and he's drafting his application during working hours.

i think this is fine, unless he's blowing off work required by his current position in the meantime?

mookieproof, Monday, 11 June 2012 00:34 (eleven years ago) link

If it were a job with a clearly defined set of tasks that you can 'get done' for a period then I'd agree, but we generate our own work. If we have time left in the day over and above current projects, we need to spend it scoping for the next project - something it's always hard to find time to do, but very necessary for our long-term viability (even medium-term viability...)

ljubljana, Monday, 11 June 2012 00:57 (eleven years ago) link

xp I live in a land of tiny people. Need more giants like you around me <3

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Monday, 11 June 2012 00:57 (eleven years ago) link

Thanks for deindexing, Wm! Everybody start naming names.

Je55e, Monday, 11 June 2012 14:10 (eleven years ago) link

Mike Arnold, the owner of the printing company I used to work for! What a choad. Refused a plea agreement for 18 months (for fraud), went to trial and got 10 years. LOL

Biff Wellington (WmC), Monday, 11 June 2012 14:12 (eleven years ago) link

EFF YOU ARVELLA

I've been waiting a while for that. Thanks, WmC!

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Monday, 11 June 2012 14:20 (eleven years ago) link

I have to go to a going away party this afternoon. I hate socializing with these people. ugh.

wolf kabob (ENBB), Monday, 11 June 2012 14:27 (eleven years ago) link

Birthday party girl gave her 2 week notice. So if she does do this party, I don't have to deal with all the drama that will result in me saying no.

tokyo rosemary, Monday, 11 June 2012 17:39 (eleven years ago) link

I am one of two attorneys that work in this office. We are both in our late 30s, yet people refer to us as "the girls," as in "The girls gave me the message so I didn't listen to my voicemail" or "Did you ask the girls (the complicated legal question requiring specialized knowledge and excellent research skills)?"

This is normally the kind of thing I pipe up about (I notoriously told an old doddering coworker not to call me "hon" and caught shit about it from all quarters because he's old and he doesn't mean anything by it) but the admin, who is my friend and whom I adore, does it all the time and she means it as an endearment and I don't have it in me to explain that by calling us "the girls" it reinforces our status as female helpmeets for my boss, who has very sexist ideas about women's roles in the workplace (basically anyone with boobs was placed at work to serve his whims, regardless of their education, experience, or areas of expertise).

carl agatha, Monday, 11 June 2012 19:23 (eleven years ago) link

(I notoriously told an old doddering coworker not to call me "hon" and caught shit about it from all quarters because he's old and he doesn't mean anything by it)

The latter was the excuse made for him by everybody else. Personally, I have enough respect for old people to assume they can handle complex concepts like, "This person would prefer I call her by name" rather than smiling and letting them get away with being assholes.

carl agatha, Monday, 11 June 2012 19:25 (eleven years ago) link

I have a co-worker who also refers to women as "hon" or "sweety". He also refers to me and other youngish co-workers/contractors as "my little buddy". English isn't his first language, and although he generally does fine he often throws slang in somewhat awkwardly, and I think his Sweety's and My Little Buddy's kind of fall into the same category as when he very forcefully throws an "Ain't" into a sentence.

I honestly don't think he means anything negative by it, or realizes it's derogatory, but it can create very uncomfortable situations.

Mad God 40/40 (Z S), Monday, 11 June 2012 19:33 (eleven years ago) link

The GM at a restaurant I used to work at took to calling me "Queen Bee" for a while.

"Sweety" and "Hon" et al. seem so outdated to me that I can't believe people still call their colleagues those things. But I'm pretty sheltered. Though my female boss and my male superior (not quite a boss) do occasionally refer to annoying opposing attorneys or opposing parties as "broad" or "bimbo." (Not exactly an excuse, but they do it tongue-in-cheek b/c they are employment lawyers who do a lot of plaintiff side sexual harassment work.)

Je55e, Monday, 11 June 2012 19:53 (eleven years ago) link

Part of what rankles me is that I work in a male-dominated area of law that is dominated by condescending fucks so anything that diminishes me professionally is unacceptable to me.

(Somewhat related: http://www.forbes.com/sites/meghancasserly/2012/06/07/are-housewives-to-blame-for-the-plight-of-working-women/ except how the hell is this a SAH wife/mother's fault and not the fault of the asshole who thinks women should get out of the office and back in the kitchen, I have no freaking clue.)

carl agatha, Monday, 11 June 2012 20:00 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah, I wish articles like that could stick with the relationships and ditch the eagerness to assign blame.

ljubljana, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 00:59 (eleven years ago) link

I get the rhetorical use of "blame," but it's really a poor choice for that story or any story where you're actually talking about literal responsibility for something.

Je55e, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 01:37 (eleven years ago) link

there was a dude at my last job who always called me "kid" (i'm 31). i thought it was demeaning at first, but i came to learn that it was totally in character - he was this super-gruff mid-50's new hampshire guy with a bushy mustache who wore short sleeved shirts with ties*, and by the end of working at that shithole, he had become one of my favorite people to work with.

*he was the only one who ever wore a tie - even the CEO wore jeans and polo shirts most days.

how did we get here how? (ytth), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 02:20 (eleven years ago) link

he was this super-gruff mid-50's new hampshire guy with a bushy mustache who wore short sleeved shirts with ties*, and by the end of working at that shithole, he had become one of my favorite people to work with.

Holy shit, with the exception of the tie part (he always does wear short sleeves though), this EXACTLY describes the guy at my office that calls the women "hon" and "sweetheart" and is OTT "chivalrous".

heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 02:23 (eleven years ago) link

I call every one at my work "you kids", but its more of a jibe at myself, for being mostly older than them! (even one of my bosses)

Pureed Moods (Trayce), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 02:25 (eleven years ago) link

PS I would never call the COO or CEO "you kids" tho. Even tho the CEO is about six months younger than me.

Pureed Moods (Trayce), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 02:25 (eleven years ago) link

Is saying "kid" as a generic nickname like "buddy" a New England thing? I've known two guys who use it that way, and when ytth mentioned NH, it occurred to me that they were both from MA.

Je55e, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 03:37 (eleven years ago) link

I dunno, maybe. The Sikh fellows who work at the package store I buy my Mexican Coke from call people "boss".

"Holy crap," I mutter, as he gently taps my area (silby), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 03:47 (eleven years ago) link

it could very well be... whenever we worked together in person, i was the west coaster in a strange and different land in rural NH, so i'm not sure what was local color and what was personal quirk.

how did we get here how? (ytth), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 05:44 (eleven years ago) link

Dude, you've been scraping the bottom of that tupperware bowl for 45 minutes now, I'm pretty sure its empty. Knock it off.

heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 14:05 (eleven years ago) link

Haha I have a work friend who thankfully sits far, far away from me who eats cereal every morning in what I understand from another work friend is a disgusting and annoying manner (slurping, scraping the bowl). Then she leaves the milky residue on her desk to get stinky throughout the day.

As an opposite corollary to good fences making good neighbors, open floor plans make stupid, annoying coworkers.

carl agatha, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 14:13 (eleven years ago) link

open floor plans make stupid, annoying coworkers.

this is 100% otm

heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 14:15 (eleven years ago) link

Ha, I thought jon's comment was directed at ytth ("scraping the bottom of the bowl" as a "beating a dead horse" replacement), and I could remember what ytth had been saying that got on jon;s nerves.

nickn, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 15:54 (eleven years ago) link

couldn't remember

nickn, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 15:55 (eleven years ago) link

Haha, no, it was just a reference to the guy in my office that eats oatmeal every morning with a plastic spoon in a plastic tupperware dish and spends an inordinate amount of time scraping the bottom.

heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 16:02 (eleven years ago) link

My boss does that, but with a ceramic bowl... clink, clink, scrape, slurp... then the rest of the day, cruching slowly and loudly on rice crackers. Sigh.

Pureed Moods (Trayce), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 01:17 (eleven years ago) link

I've been sitting in on an open office thing the past couple days, and this thread has made me like super paranoid about my behavior.

Hamster of Legend (J3ff T.), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 01:20 (eleven years ago) link

The GM at a restaurant I used to work at took to calling me "Queen Bee" for a while.

this is tremendous/fucked up

mookieproof, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 01:25 (eleven years ago) link

He wasn't even some 20-something dipshit bro like so many restaurant managers. He was about 40, settled, pretty serious-acting, married w/ kids, and he had money invested in the restaurant. That made it worse.

So I stole a lot.

Je55e, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 16:04 (eleven years ago) link

O______O

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 16:09 (eleven years ago) link

attaboy Je55e!

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 16:09 (eleven years ago) link

/former LPO, condones employee theft

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 16:10 (eleven years ago) link

I've been sitting in on an open office thing the past couple days, and this thread has made me like super paranoid about my behavior.

ditto, esp when i'm snacking/eating at my desk.

rayuela, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 16:13 (eleven years ago) link

My co-worker may or may not have just smacked me on the ass.

wolf kabob (ENBB), Thursday, 14 June 2012 17:56 (eleven years ago) link

OK, she did.

wolf kabob (ENBB), Thursday, 14 June 2012 17:56 (eleven years ago) link

Arg!

carl agatha, Thursday, 14 June 2012 17:58 (eleven years ago) link

that is horrifying but also a little bit funny but also rage-making

indian rope trick (remy bean), Thursday, 14 June 2012 17:59 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah. That's not cool of your coworker.

carl agatha, Thursday, 14 June 2012 18:00 (eleven years ago) link

my coworker told me that i lost my ass when i lost weight and i said oh, great, and she said it was a shame. i didn't even have a good butt, so i don't know what she's on about.

indian rope trick (remy bean), Thursday, 14 June 2012 18:00 (eleven years ago) link

I was bending over to take a picture of something by her desk and she just smacked me! And said - you can't put your butt in my face and not expect me to smack it. NB It wasn't in her face, her back was to me! Then she did it again and I think she realized that was strange cause she got all flustered and was like don't mind me I'm just a smacker!

wolf kabob (ENBB), Thursday, 14 June 2012 18:00 (eleven years ago) link

It was more funny than anything. She's just lucky it was me and not someone else imo. She's sort of bizarre and clueless. This is the same one who told me a couple months ago that my ovaries are shriveling up.

wolf kabob (ENBB), Thursday, 14 June 2012 18:02 (eleven years ago) link

"i'm just a smacker"

indian rope trick (remy bean), Thursday, 14 June 2012 18:03 (eleven years ago) link

right?!

wolf kabob (ENBB), Thursday, 14 June 2012 18:04 (eleven years ago) link

She's just lucky it was me and not someone else imo.

I think this is exactly what I would tell her if I were the smackee -- it would get "that's just not done" across with the option of face-saving if she's smart enough to recognize it.

Biff Wellington (WmC), Thursday, 14 June 2012 18:06 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah. I feel like now it's too late but if she ever does it again then I will. There's a glass partition between us so she just saw me biting my cuticle and said "You know that's a form of self-mutilation and an obsessive habit". I don't even bite my nails anymore it was just the one little piece but anyway SHE IS SO WEIRD.

wolf kabob (ENBB), Thursday, 14 June 2012 18:10 (eleven years ago) link

I'm pretty sure I smacked your ass in NYC! You have a great ass!

NB I smacked a coworker's ass yesterday, but she & I have an understanding.

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Thursday, 14 June 2012 18:56 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah but that's different!! WE DON'T HAVE THAT UNDERSTANDING! lol It's fine. I think she's just feeling comfortable with me and is, you know, a smacker. I was a little taken aback though and if she does it again I'll be sure to convey that. Too shocked this time tbh.

wolf kabob (ENBB), Thursday, 14 June 2012 19:00 (eleven years ago) link

Haha, that's fair. I wouldn't do it to anyone I didn't have a very close relationship with!

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Thursday, 14 June 2012 19:04 (eleven years ago) link

I wouldn't do it to anyone I didn't have a very close relationship with!

Well now you know that if you do ever do, you can just tell them that you're a smacker.

rayuela, Thursday, 14 June 2012 19:29 (eleven years ago) link

*smacks rayuela's ass*

Sorry, I'm a smacker!
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3513/3802739304_c45de890ce.jpg

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Thursday, 14 June 2012 20:08 (eleven years ago) link

The coworker I share an office with wears noise cancelling headphones a lot, which is great because then I can cough and fart and sigh wearily or sob at my desk and I know I won't bother her. But now she is listening to some kind of on-line lecture thing and she's not wearing the headphones. Why is she not wearing the headphones now when there is something to listen to??!?!?!?

carl agatha, Thursday, 14 June 2012 21:24 (eleven years ago) link

She's done listening to the online lecture out loud and now she's put her headphones back. Free to fart again.

carl agatha, Thursday, 14 June 2012 22:14 (eleven years ago) link

Are they stank canceling headphones?

Je55e, Thursday, 14 June 2012 23:12 (eleven years ago) link

So I work with this guy who has hiccup fits, like at least once a day. Like the loudest hiccups I've ever heard. At first this was really not that big of a deal, because he obviously has no control over this and has made everyone aware that he is self-conscious about it*. But recently a bunch of people had their seats changed when the floor got reorganized, and one of my many, many stupid, annoying co-workers, who is new to our part of the floor, continues to just RIDE him about it. So anyway, earlier this week, he starts hiccuping, and she says "We need a thing that we say whenever you hiccup." A completely inane conversation followed, whereupon it was established that, going forward, any time this guy hiccuped, this shitty woman would respond by yelling "APPLE PIE!" It might help to know that she is in her mid-to-late-50s but flirts hard with all the 20-something dudes and tends to revert to this cloying sing-song voice whenever they are around. This is the voice she uses to yell "APPLE PIE!"

OK, so it gets worse: stupid, annoying co-worker #2, who is your typical any-conversation-I-overhear-I-am-entitled-to-join type, also sits nearby and is not satisfied with the decision to yell "APPLE PIE!". So now every day I get to hear this:

GUY: *HICCUP!*
STUPID 1: APPLE PIE!
GUY: *HICCUP!*
STUPID 1: APPLE PIE APPLE PIE!
STUPID 2: Watermelon!

cwkiii, Friday, 15 June 2012 02:22 (eleven years ago) link

*Actually, the real reason the hiccups themselves are not that annoying is because pretty much everything this guy says is annoying, so the hiccups are like a nice break from his words.

cwkiii, Friday, 15 June 2012 02:26 (eleven years ago) link

Holy shit, I would just tell her to STFU if I had to sit near that, could she possibly be any more insensitive?

Pureed Moods (Trayce), Friday, 15 June 2012 05:30 (eleven years ago) link

Does she have any annoying tics? You could respond in kind until she reigns it in.

give me back my 200 dollars (NotEnough), Friday, 15 June 2012 08:41 (eleven years ago) link

gah i really can't stand one of my coworkers. the other day, another coworker brought muffins to work, so i had one in the morning. the annoying coworker started telling me how muffins really weren't very healthy or anything... while eating a mcdonalds breakfast. she really gets on my nerves because she keeps telling me and other people at work that what we're eating is not good for us/fattening etc, usually while having food herself (mcd breakfasts, subs, fried rice & chicken etc)

Jibe, Friday, 15 June 2012 08:55 (eleven years ago) link

I went and bought myself an icecream this afternoon and then we had a network outage, for the rest of the afternoon everyone in the office proceeded to blame the outage on my ice cream eating >:|

Pureed Moods (Trayce), Friday, 15 June 2012 08:57 (eleven years ago) link

I WORK WITH WEIRDOS

Pureed Moods (Trayce), Friday, 15 June 2012 08:57 (eleven years ago) link

Does she have any annoying tics?

Not really; well, there's the aforementioned sing-song voice, and pretty much all proper nouns are spoken in Valley Girl...her demeanor is basically one giant annoying tic. Also I'm one of those people who is terrified of any kind of altercation, so I just put up with it and hope someone else eventually says something to her. :(

cwkiii, Friday, 15 June 2012 11:50 (eleven years ago) link

Food police coworkers give me the rage. I used to work at a law firm and I lost some weight and one of the secretaries became OBSESSED with what I ate for lunch every day. "What are you eating? How many calories does it have?" "Oh, what is that?" "It's yogurt." "YOGURT! Wow!"

carl agatha, Friday, 15 June 2012 12:26 (eleven years ago) link

People at work GETTING 'LOST' WRONG

kinder, Friday, 15 June 2012 12:30 (eleven years ago) link

Oh christ I get that shit at work anyway! "whats for lunch? what you having?" at one point I was necking some panadol and I got "whats the matter? are you sick?" NUNYA BIZNESS LADY.

Pureed Moods (Trayce), Friday, 15 June 2012 12:31 (eleven years ago) link

i've made so many snarky responses to those sorts of questions at work that i don't get asked about any personal stuff anymore

relatively joan rivers (electricsound), Friday, 15 June 2012 12:31 (eleven years ago) link

*heaven*

relatively joan rivers (electricsound), Friday, 15 June 2012 12:32 (eleven years ago) link

The weird ass security guard at my work who sings hymns in the bathroom once asked me how much my lunched weighed. I told her six or seven pounds.

carl agatha, Friday, 15 June 2012 12:33 (eleven years ago) link

hahaha

Biff Wellington (WmC), Friday, 15 June 2012 12:52 (eleven years ago) link

There are only a few smokers at my job, I'm one of them. Another is this weird girl from the second floor who has no ability to read social cues whatsoever - walks up talking to me while I'm wearing headphones & playing an iPhone game, keeps talking long after our cigarettes are finished, invites herself on lunch with me, etc. Well the other day our conversation somehow got around to the name Paul, which is the name of a coworker I don't know and the name of the guy who works in the print shop, who she didn't know. Anyway the print shop one is dating another colleague and I mentioned that to her before I realized we were talking about two different guys. We quickly figured that out & I explained this. Since that day she has been talking to print shop Paul all the time - she's out the door right at 5, he's usually there waiting for our coworker/his gf, but now when the gf gets downstairs Annoying Smoker Girl is always there chatting his ear off. She asked him what he does for lunch and showed up at the same place at the same time the next day. He's taken to waiting elsewhere if he & gf have to go right at 5 because she'll hold them there for 5-10 minutes. He even changed his lunch break so she can't bomb them.

I get it, you're lonely, but fuck off!

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Friday, 15 June 2012 13:04 (eleven years ago) link

oh god annoying coworker was impressive today... another coworker is about to leave and annoying one asks her where she is going. she replies that she's going to the gym. then annoying one tells her "oh that's a good idea, i noticed you've gained a bit of weight lately". total wtf moment, not only because how is that a problem of hers and also since other coworker is really slender and annoying one is very fat (and yeah, i know its nagl to mention stuff like that but in this case, it just makes the situation even more awkward). it took the other coworker all her self-control to not just kill annoying cw.

Jibe, Friday, 15 June 2012 13:59 (eleven years ago) link

I do miss working in an office sometimes when I read stories like that.

Biff Wellington (WmC), Friday, 15 June 2012 14:14 (eleven years ago) link

XP that happened to me once but the co-worker was from another country (so not that used to british levels of over-politeness) and she was basically correct so I forgave her and it actually made me do more at the gym.

kinder, Friday, 15 June 2012 15:56 (eleven years ago) link

Stupid 1 and Stupid 2 decided that, instead of work, they will do a crossword puzzle today. They have two copies and are loudly discussing it across the aisle. One of the clues was "Do business", which by filling in the intersecting words they have determined to be "HAIRSALON". This is blowing their minds. Stupid 2 just said "That doesn't even make SENSE!.......unless it's 'NAILSALON'."

Like, I know these people well enough by now that it doesn't bother/surprise me that they don't see why "HAIRSALON" is right, but now I seriously need to know why "NAILSALON" makes more sense to them!

cwkiii, Friday, 15 June 2012 16:36 (eleven years ago) link

I am still back on don't mind me I'm just a smacker! tbh

Victory Chainsaw! (DJP), Friday, 15 June 2012 17:12 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah smacking someone's ass here would land you in serious hot water if you had an active HR dept.

Pureed Moods (Trayce), Friday, 15 June 2012 23:22 (eleven years ago) link

Also WHO DOES THAT.

Pureed Moods (Trayce), Friday, 15 June 2012 23:23 (eleven years ago) link

It probably wouldn't get anyone in trouble if it went unreported. But people should know better and they should at least realize that some people might complain to HR and get them in trouble.

Though there may be accommodations for those who are legitimately affected w/ being smackers.

Je55e, Saturday, 16 June 2012 16:19 (eleven years ago) link

I don't think being a smacker is considered a disability under the ADA.

carl agatha, Saturday, 16 June 2012 16:24 (eleven years ago) link

Pending litigation over whether it falls under Title VII.

carl agatha, Saturday, 16 June 2012 16:24 (eleven years ago) link

lol

It was pretty unbelievable.

(✿◠‿◠) (ENBB), Sunday, 17 June 2012 12:37 (eleven years ago) link

It reminds me of a time I was waiting at the lifts and a lady - complete stranger from another floor/company, no idea who she was - reached over to me (standing behind me) and tucked in my fukcing shirt tag. Said "I cant stand tagdags! I had to fix it!". I was gobsmacked.

Pureed Moods (Trayce), Monday, 18 June 2012 06:31 (eleven years ago) link

Like hey ok lady, snap my bra strap or something next time why dont you?

Pureed Moods (Trayce), Monday, 18 June 2012 06:31 (eleven years ago) link

Oh, once I was waiting on line and the woman behind me removed either a piece of hair or a thread off me because "seeing those on people is a pet peeve on mine." You know what's a pet peeve of mine? People touching me.

This was also the person who was trying to talk with me when I was listening to my iPod and knitting which I thought were fairly obvious signs that I wasn't interested in talking with anyone.

tokyo rosemary, Monday, 18 June 2012 10:19 (eleven years ago) link

Strangers telling me my shoelace is untied makes me IA.

tokyo rosemary, Monday, 18 June 2012 10:21 (eleven years ago) link

Oh, I guess I am getting the stupid co-workers thread and irrationally angry threads confused.

tokyo rosemary, Monday, 18 June 2012 10:23 (eleven years ago) link

I've told you all before about the customer (when I was working at That Hardware Store) who yanked a grey hair off of my head because he thought I was too young to have grey hair.

Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Monday, 18 June 2012 12:07 (eleven years ago) link

(Not a stupid coworkers story, but related.)

Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Monday, 18 June 2012 12:08 (eleven years ago) link

if i hear "moving forward" one more time, i'm going to move my fist forward into someone's face

i could probably do better with that but i'm so, so very tired

Mad God 40/40 (Z S), Monday, 18 June 2012 16:55 (eleven years ago) link

Holy shit, Christine. That person was way the fuck out of line.

Je55e, Monday, 18 June 2012 19:03 (eleven years ago) link

1. We have a new asst. general counsel and the general counsel is taking her around. He brought her into our office, asked if our boss was here, the AA said no, and he said, "Oh, well I'm just introducing the new asst. general counsel to all the lawyers in the legal department," and walked out. Meanwhile, me and the other lawyer in the office are just sitting here, totally disregarded, like, "I just reported all my MCLE credits so I'm pretty sure I'm still a lawyer..."

2. General counsel introduces the asst. general counsel to the boss from another office (with the same spiel about introducing her to the lawyers in the legal department, meanwhile I walk by unremarked). The Other Boss says to the new asst. general counsel, "Oh, you're replacing Fred? Well you're much prettier. Much, much prettier." To the assistant general counsel who is, among other things, responsible for defending the agency against sexual harassment lawsuits.

carl agatha, Monday, 18 June 2012 19:24 (eleven years ago) link

(For info, our department consists of suites that contain an office for the AA, an office for the boss, and the rest of the suite is two (relatively private) cubes for use non-lawyer lawyers. So while we are shielded from the horrors of an open floor plan, we don't have a door to close against noise and the two lawyers in each office are basically up in each other's business all day. But the GC was looking right at the wall of my cube with my little name plate that says "Carl Agatha, Staff Attorney" when he decided he was only introduced this woman to lawyers.)

carl agatha, Monday, 18 June 2012 19:28 (eleven years ago) link

^^^ Jesse IRL

carl agatha, Monday, 18 June 2012 20:37 (eleven years ago) link

It reminds me of a time I was waiting at the lifts and a lady - complete stranger from another floor/company, no idea who she was - reached over to me (standing behind me) and tucked in my fukcing shirt tag. Said "I cant stand tagdags! I had to fix it!". I was gobsmacked.

This has happened to me multiple times! The worst! You should have responded "You want to know what I can't stand? The cold hands of a stranger on the back of my fucking neck. That's what I can't stand."

cwkiii, Monday, 18 June 2012 20:57 (eleven years ago) link

the other day at work, i all of a sudden sneezed, hiccuped, and did some weird snort/squawk thing, and it was very embarrassing. i just started laughing and apologized, but in my head, i was imagining my new workers coming to this thread to post about how it was SO GROSS.

how did we get here how? (ytth), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 03:37 (eleven years ago) link

In spite of all the abuse I have taken at work, I interviewed for a promotion in another department. It looks like I will get it, and I will then have the power to fire people!

From the insane co-worker files:

Today in the elevator I mentioned that I'd gone to a tattoo place near where she lived once.

her: You have a tatoo?!!!
me: Yeah, well I have four.
her: OMG you have four tattoos?
me: Yep.
her: OK tramp. Hahahahahaha just kidding! I'm sort of against them though. No ink will go on this temple.

. . .

(✿◠‿◠) (ENBB), Friday, 22 June 2012 20:22 (eleven years ago) link

Tramp? Really lady?!

But then . . .

(✿◠‿◠) (ENBB), Friday, 22 June 2012 20:22 (eleven years ago) link

ugh, i haaaaaaaaaate that

1) insult
2) jk
3) no but really, insult

Mad God 40/40 (Z S), Friday, 22 June 2012 20:23 (eleven years ago) link

I got an email from my manager (with whom I've had issues in the past couple months) telling me that she had noticed I'm doing an excellent job lately and really making an effort. I then noticed that the email was actually a forward of an email that insane co-worker had sent her letting her know that I'd been going above and beyond and really helping her and the other new team members a lot lately and that she's not the only one who noticed this but that she though the supervisor should know because it's been so helpful. It was actually exceptionally sweet.

So, she's still nuts but I think she's a really good person.

(✿◠‿◠) (ENBB), Friday, 22 June 2012 20:24 (eleven years ago) link

This lady she sent it to isn't really someone I work for but the HR person I'd written about before who had been harassing me about time off and stuff over the spring.

(✿◠‿◠) (ENBB), Friday, 22 June 2012 20:26 (eleven years ago) link

Anyway I honestly don't think I've ever met anyone who is seemingly normal yet completely clueless socially.

(✿◠‿◠) (ENBB), Friday, 22 June 2012 20:27 (eleven years ago) link

lady and the tramp

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Friday, 22 June 2012 20:27 (eleven years ago) link

Did she actually say "OMG"?

cwkiii, Friday, 22 June 2012 20:28 (eleven years ago) link

Anyway I honestly don't think I've ever met anyone who is quite so seemingly normal yet completely clueless socially.

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(✿◠‿◠) (ENBB), Friday, 22 June 2012 20:29 (eleven years ago) link

x-post - No, no she did not.

(✿◠‿◠) (ENBB), Friday, 22 June 2012 20:33 (eleven years ago) link

OK, good. The whole scene is bad either way, but that would have pushed it over the edge. :)

cwkiii, Friday, 22 June 2012 20:53 (eleven years ago) link

Nice work, E! lol at insult-JK-insult though, what the hell :P

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Friday, 22 June 2012 21:56 (eleven years ago) link

"Would you put graffiti on the temple?" I heard this SO MANY times growing up re: tattoo that it's a guaranteed rolleye inducer. Anyway now I have John Mayer stuck in my head with the words "your body is a temple-land"

chupacabra seeds (Abbbottt), Friday, 22 June 2012 22:17 (eleven years ago) link

I'm sorry, but why do you put your ginormous box of cereal in our (often packed) communal fridge? Put that shit on your desk, or put transfer it to an airtight container and leave it in your office! Right now it's laid down flat, because its shape does not FIT in a refrigerator, and so it's taking up an unnecessary amount of surface area. And, by the way, no need to put your initials on it. No one wants to eat your stupid cereal.

rayuela, Tuesday, 26 June 2012 13:18 (eleven years ago) link

Can you fit it into the crisper? You know - for freshness.

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 13:20 (eleven years ago) link

Possibly, but I don't want to rearrange her stuff for her. Doesn't stay fresh if you keep it in an airtight container?

rayuela, Tuesday, 26 June 2012 13:25 (eleven years ago) link

Oh I was being sarcastic, we keep our cereal in the box in a cupboard! :)

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 13:29 (eleven years ago) link

haha. it doesn't help that i already don't like her. i think if she weren't so irritating the rest of the time, the cereal box wouldn't bother me.

rayuela, Tuesday, 26 June 2012 13:36 (eleven years ago) link

I understand completely; I'm currently bitching to my manager about how this weird girl is going to be at our conference and everything she does drives me nuts & I'm terrified we'll get seated together because we're the only smokers. One of those people who just grates. I think I have already mentioned her on this thread. She's so creepy.

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 13:38 (eleven years ago) link

ah yes. i remember when i smoked, i had to seek out a hiding place so as to avoid this one weirdo smoker at my work. somehow we always ended up running into each other in the elevator on the way to or back from smoking.

rayuela, Tuesday, 26 June 2012 13:50 (eleven years ago) link

jesus enbb you're surging ahead itt

BTW wasn't it pretty poor form for the HR person to include the original mail? Nice that you could see it and all, but would they do the same with a complaint etc?

I blame the prurience (darraghmac), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 13:51 (eleven years ago) link

I have this thing where I just can't be outright rude to people unless pushed - especially as she's a coworker. So I dodge her, only passively respond to her conversation, pretend I don't see her - still she comes up to me daily 'to chat.' She fills me with IA. Argh!

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 13:52 (eleven years ago) link

x-post - I sort of wondered that myself tbh but I don't really know what the protocol is and guess it wasn't really a formal thing. I don't really care as somehow I seem to have managed to work my way back into their good graces which is A-OK by me.

(✿◠‿◠) (ENBB), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 13:57 (eleven years ago) link

yeah i suppose you'd hope in a negative sitch that they'd have the cop-on not to do it.

Ffm- i'm never rude to anyone either imo, but i've got this 'rep'....i blame my eyebrows, they're v suggestive

I blame the prurience (darraghmac), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 13:58 (eleven years ago) link

good reason to quit smoking?

xpost to ms finemusic

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 14:01 (eleven years ago) link

the eyebrows cannot be restrained!

rayuela, Tuesday, 26 June 2012 14:09 (eleven years ago) link

xp It's in the works and that IS a small part of my many reasons!

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 14:09 (eleven years ago) link

I'm sure I have some visual tells but this girl has no radar whatsoever.

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 14:10 (eleven years ago) link

Effective method for dealing with annoying co-workers: total silence and The Dan Hedaya Stare:

http://www.tribute.ca/tribute_objects/images/stars/dan_hedaya.jpg

Biff Wellington (WmC), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 14:28 (eleven years ago) link

Lollll I'm totally doing that the next time the kooky, hymn singing security guard tries to mumble-chat with me about whatever strange thoughts are flitting through her head.

carl agatha, Tuesday, 26 June 2012 14:33 (eleven years ago) link

Okay so this guy:

  • is rude to customers
  • calls out CONSTANTLY with no remorse and for reasons that are confirmed bullshit (he'll be "sick" but then come in later that day to buy a sandwich or be at another co-workers house just hanging out talking about how he doesn't want to go to work); most recently just called out FOR AN ENTIRE WEEK, which totally and directly fucked me over two different shifts bcz I had to scramble for 5 solid hours
  • says things like "ugh women have more rights than men these days"
  • tries to sell you weed on Facebook by making bs small talk and then saying "hey do you need any weed?"
  • is bizarrely stubborn and argumentative and will just battle with you when you explain how to things properly, even though we've all been working there longer than him
  • bitches and complains constantly that $9.50/hr is soooooo awful for working at a v small and independently owned natural foods store, which it sorta would be if a) the work environment wasn't super lax and comfortable and flexible and b) we didn't get to keep all the products past expiry or buffet food that's day-old

Natalie Portmanteau (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 14:44 (eleven years ago) link

Yuck. Does management notice how he sucks?

Je55e, Tuesday, 26 June 2012 16:41 (eleven years ago) link

Do a web search for his email address and you'll probably find a lot of ragingly misogynistic posts on MRA websites and you can show your bosses and be like "Is this the kind of person you want to work here?"

carl agatha, Tuesday, 26 June 2012 17:27 (eleven years ago) link

calls out CONSTANTLY with no remorse and for reasons that are confirmed bullshit (he'll be "sick" but then come in later that day to buy a sandwich or be at another co-workers house just hanging out talking about how he doesn't want to go to work)

had someone who would do this years ago when i worked at a very busy ice cream shop. remember one time she called in sick and we had to call in someone to cover for her; he really didn't want to, but he took the bullet. an hour later, he's taking her order.

of family bonds and individual triumph. Narrated by Tim Allen, (zachlyon), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 18:00 (eleven years ago) link

Bloody hell. Sure, take a sickie, but... to actually go in and prove that you're not sick, that just seems... incredibly stupid?

emil.y, Tuesday, 26 June 2012 18:04 (eleven years ago) link

I worked at one place with a lot of flaky students and one time one of the boss guys played us this really apologetic voicemail message one of them had left, calling in sick with diarrhea but then not hanging up the phone properly and going 'do you think that sounded convincing? diarrhea's always convincing because no-one would say it otherwise, right??'

kinder, Tuesday, 26 June 2012 18:14 (eleven years ago) link

I guess they do but apparently, the DL scoop is that the whole week he called out was bcz he was in withdrawal from quitting Subutex so I think he might have played the "boo hoo I was in serious shit and I'm trying to get better" card, and I almost wanted to feel sorry for him but he's such an awful person otherwise that I just can't. Apparently it's damn near impossible to get fired from this job

Natalie Portmanteau (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 22:31 (eleven years ago) link

so i've been at my new job for over a month, but i'm still feeling very bitter and angry about my old job. i just need to let go, but at random times of the day, i'll think about how awful it was and just get mad for a few minutes before i'm able to reassure myself that my new situation is amazing and literally has no drawbacks compared to my old situation. i guess it will fade away with enough time, but still - i wasn't expecting it.

how did we get here how? (ytth), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 01:59 (eleven years ago) link

When did you get a new situation??

Natalie Portmanteau (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 02:39 (eleven years ago) link

a month and a half or so ago. it's a great job in the city working for a super nice guy making a really fun product.

how did we get here how? (ytth), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 04:19 (eleven years ago) link

I have a friend who had a terrible job where they treated her like garbage and it took her a year to get over it. I think when you spend eight hours + each day in a situation where you are stressed and angry and mentally sieged, you're using so many resources just to get by, and when that stress is taken away, there's something like PTSD left behind. It probably will fade with time, but if the bitter angriness starts to get in the way of you truly enjoying your new job, I think it's reasonable to seek counseling on the issue.

I guess what I'm mostly saying is that those kinds of feelings are pretty normal after leaving a terrible job. And congrats on your new situation!

carl agatha, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 12:36 (eleven years ago) link

I just went through this very same thing. I've been at my new job for over 3 months now and am happy to report the crushing negativity is pretty much gone now. But in the 1st month I found myself still getting wound up over tiny things and even considered quitting over basically nothing. Now I'm settling in well and the previous few years of stupid annoyingness are becoming a memory.

The Eyeball Of Hull (Colonel Poo), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 12:39 (eleven years ago) link

I'm no industrial psychologist but I seriously think people get mild PTSD after leaving a shitty job. I'm thinking that when I finally get out of my current job, I'm going to have to check myself in for a stint in a residential program.

carl agatha, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 12:44 (eleven years ago) link

Am really fed up with my job -- it should be a cycle of 4 weeks light duty and 4 weeks heavy duty, but it's a cycle of 6.5 weeks light duty and 10 days of blind deadline panic. Workday is 6 a.m. to midnight all this week.

Picked a bad week to stop sniffing glue and arguing politics with my brother in law.

Biff Wellington (WmC), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 12:53 (eleven years ago) link

i spent four days in a nightmare job right out of college and i'm not sure i'm over it yet, six years later

Ну, там твое место, там сабе будь! (darraghmac), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 13:00 (eleven years ago) link

Jesus what did they do to you!?

Natalie Portmanteau (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 16:49 (eleven years ago) link

so here's some of the beef i had with my last job a la thread to get over a breakup(the "you" below is four separate people i'm rolling into one):
- you acted like the office was a frat, and i was forced to choose between playing along and losing all self-respect, or resisting and being labeled a problem, ostracized, and possibly fired.
- you gave me tons of shit about supporting the hiring of a female coworker you didn't find very attractive.
- you called a different female coworker "torpedo tits" all the time behind her back, even though i told you that was bullshit, and even after i told you that she had breast cancer and reconstructive surgery. you did, however, accuse me of "ruining your night" when i told you the breast cancer thing.
- you would call and demand 100 things right after sitting down on a plane, and before i could explain why your demands were unrealistic, you told me that you had to go, since you just sat down on a plane.
- you forced me to cut all kinds of corners on product development just so you could hit deadlines, and you would get mad when i would refuse to sweep known product defects under the rug.
- you would act all genial and great and fun and whatever, and then as soon as a meeting started, you would just start yelling at me and my team, because you could, because you're head of sales and without a sales department "we might as well all go home."
- not a single person in upper management was willing to entertain the idea that constant yelling, tantrum throwing, and in-fighting was bad for the company.
- even for tiny mistakes, all four of you would take separate turns making sure i knew how bad i fucked up.
- you would call me to complain about things i had done wrong 6 months prior, just to remind me how important it is not to make mistakes like that.
- when i completed a certain giant project to high accolades from multiple coworkers, you told me you could have done a better job and then used your power as CEO to forbid anyone else from using it.
- you hired three new people, told me i should help coordinate their jobs, train them, and oversee their work, but paid me 20% less than those people.
- when i finally left over my frustration with the above bullet point, you told a coworker i was making the biggest mistake of my life, and then emailed the whole company with, "ytth has left to take a new position of increasing responsibility, albeit at a much smaller company."
- you think the company is a great place to work.

how did we get here how? (ytth), Thursday, 28 June 2012 05:10 (eleven years ago) link

you forgot the bit about
- they made you and other salaried workers come in on weekends to do the jobs of the hourly-paid staff, so they wouldn't have to spend extra

just1n3, Thursday, 28 June 2012 05:15 (eleven years ago) link

- and the CEO refused to address you directly after you gave notice

just1n3, Thursday, 28 June 2012 05:16 (eleven years ago) link

even just reading the above is making steam shoot out of my ears xxpost

beater drummer (electricsound), Thursday, 28 June 2012 05:16 (eleven years ago) link

Oh god, that sounds like a nightmare.

Pureed Moods (Trayce), Thursday, 28 June 2012 05:16 (eleven years ago) link

And I sincerely hope, somewhere in his/her black little soul, the "torpedo tits" commenter is positively on fire with shame, for belittling a cancer victim, what in the actual christ.

Pureed Moods (Trayce), Thursday, 28 June 2012 05:17 (eleven years ago) link

he felt bad about it for like a day and then started up with the name again later, but mostly with other people. see the above part about "resisting" and becoming a problem.

how did we get here how? (ytth), Thursday, 28 June 2012 05:19 (eleven years ago) link

that list is only a tiny percentage of the shit he endured for 5 years

and also that guy's aunt died of breast cancer

just1n3, Thursday, 28 June 2012 05:20 (eleven years ago) link

I'm trying to fix a piece of writing for publication and the original is so bad and nonsensical and legally incorrect in a really obvious way that I can't fix without torpedoing the entire thing. It's making my head hurt.

carl agatha, Thursday, 28 June 2012 20:43 (eleven years ago) link

Ugh yes, similar thing happened to me last week. I'd gathered a bunch of data around E3 in early June, then for some reason the data was given to the interns to make into an 'infographic' that we could post on the company blog (the interns are not there to do graphics). Their end product was eventually given back to me with instruction to fix it. Not only was it graphically poor (no corporate/professional blog would ever dare claim it as their own) but half of the little blurbs they'd written based on the data were factually incorrect. Brilliant use of everyone's time, that -- could've saved both interns a full work day had it just been given to me in the first place (and it would've been ready in time to be relevant instead of being completed two weeks after E3 finished). Felt kind of bad for the interns being told to work on that project to begin with, think they were a bit out of their depth.

salsa shark, Thursday, 28 June 2012 21:48 (eleven years ago) link

a while back a friend of mine was translating something from french for academic publication, except it turned out she wasn't really translating, she was merely editing the esl prose. great! except it became evident that it had been largely fed through google translate, and it turned out there wasn't a french original. the border between editing and co-authoring quickly disappears.

Merdeyeux, Thursday, 28 June 2012 22:02 (eleven years ago) link

new annoying but also creepy coworker:

our new driver is sort of the worst. he started this week and he's already gotten on the bad side of at least half the female staff. we've had this problem before with one guy just hitting on all the women constantly: the old GM fired him, the new GM hired him back. fortunately the new GM is gone soon but who knows who's replacing him.

on a less important note, he doesn't really seem to understand things. me and another driver will be trying to coordinate tomorrow's huge giant orders, trying to get everything organized and he's just hindered us at every step. we'll tell him exactly what the plan is and how we're going to do it (and i'm talking micro-tasks like "moving these boxes over here for now") and he seems to understand and happily agrees, and then does the complete opposite. he speaks and understands english better than half our employees and they'd all understand what we meant anyway.

also he just doesn't leave. he'll stick around and keep working hours after managers tell him to clock out. he was still there an hour into my second shift yesterday (and he took one of my orders before i even knew it existed). i asked him why he won't clock out and he goes "yes, i'm still here because i get what i want." i had to inform him that they're going to cut his hours off if he gets close to making overtime. it's hard to talk to him about anything seriously because he's always so smiley and bubbly!

on a much more important note, he was talking to a girl on the phone and said this exact quote: "i hate it when you say you're scared of me. if you say you're scared of me again i'll kill myself." WELP

of family bonds and individual triumph. Narrated by Tim Allen, (zachlyon), Thursday, 28 June 2012 22:06 (eleven years ago) link

"i hate it when you say you're scared of me. if you say you're scared of me again i'll kill myself."

jesus christ

just1n3, Thursday, 28 June 2012 22:14 (eleven years ago) link

Well, here's hoping he's a man of his word! And that he won't want to take anyone with him when he goes.

Biff Wellington (WmC), Thursday, 28 June 2012 22:16 (eleven years ago) link

woah, thats a real One Hour Photo vibe right there

Pureed Moods (Trayce), Thursday, 28 June 2012 22:28 (eleven years ago) link

I can definitely vouch for the job PTSD. I just had my one year anniversary at new job but from time to time I still find myself reacting unnecessarily (internally, not in interactions with peole) to things some people do because I was so conditioned to awfulness.

Xpost that guy sounds scary!

tehresa, Friday, 29 June 2012 12:24 (eleven years ago) link

that is creepy but i think we're all glossing over the fact that trayce made a "one hour photo" reference

congratulations (n/a), Friday, 29 June 2012 14:57 (eleven years ago) link

My boss replies to emails pretending to be me. Urghhhhhhh.

only NWOFHM! is real (krakow), Saturday, 30 June 2012 08:14 (eleven years ago) link

lol what was wrong with my ref?

Pureed Moods (Trayce), Saturday, 30 June 2012 09:27 (eleven years ago) link

My boss replies to emails pretending to be me. Urghhhhhhh.

Can you send an email to your boss to stop fucking doing that with their name at the bottom?

If you live in Thanet and fancy doing some creative knitting (Fizzles), Saturday, 30 June 2012 16:55 (eleven years ago) link

That was my first thought too!

only NWOFHM! is real (krakow), Saturday, 30 June 2012 21:10 (eleven years ago) link

guys

no stupid annoying co-worker problems to report in a whole week

btw i abbreviated stupid annoying coworkers there but caught it just in time

snoopsheepysheep (darraghmac), Monday, 2 July 2012 00:25 (eleven years ago) link

I decided against dealing with the issue via email over the weekend, which means I have to confront it in person today! Eeek. I hate confrontation. But I hate someone pretending to be me even more. I think...

only NWOFHM! is real (krakow), Monday, 2 July 2012 07:24 (eleven years ago) link

Don't apologize for confronting them and don't argue with them. Just tell them how you feel and that you want them to stop. #justcamebackfromacourse /annoyingpatronisingbusybody

give me back my 200 dollars (NotEnough), Monday, 2 July 2012 09:58 (eleven years ago) link

Geez, I have annoyances in the workplace, but "torpedo tits" and a frat party atmosphere isn't one of them. Among them is organizing and editing and updating the old boss' files - like procedure manuals that are ten years old. Turnover is so high around here that I am one of the few underlings who understands the documents. Work here long enough and you're expected to know everyone else's job...

VBTS (tootie and the blowfish), Monday, 2 July 2012 12:19 (eleven years ago) link

Relevant to krakow: http://www.askamanager.org/2012/04/my-boss-is-using-my-email-account-to-impersonate-me.html

carl agatha, Monday, 2 July 2012 12:42 (eleven years ago) link

Wow, what a weird, unprofessional practice. Aren't there laws against this sort of thing? I guess if the business is small enough, people think they can get away with anything.

I can't imagine that happening anywhere I have worked. It is not only harassment, it is bad for general morale and bad management. That boss would be fired immediately!

VBTS (tootie and the blowfish), Monday, 2 July 2012 12:57 (eleven years ago) link

Background: I'm crazy busy at work. Everybody who has the job I have is almost always crazy busy. Also I used to be a union steward but quit a couple of years ago because this local is run by power-mad idiots.

So a coworker who might be a steward, or is maybe just active in the union, came in to our office yesterday and handed me a stack of 30 pages - a print out of a senate bill and the legislation it's supposed to create - and asked me to read that over and let me know what I thought because other people have read it and she thinks they are reading it wrong. It's got something to do with pension reform or health insurance or something, I don't know or care. I told her I was really busy and probably wouldn't have a chance and she put it on my desk and told me to get to it when I got to it and give her a call.

And I know this lady and $10 says this is just some pointless pissing match she decided to get into with some other ding dong in the union, because that's pretty much all they do - have pissing matches over inconsequential bullshit and misappropriate funds.

carl agatha, Tuesday, 3 July 2012 19:11 (eleven years ago) link

I'm not going to read it, but I'm just annoyed that I told her no and she ignored me.

carl agatha, Tuesday, 3 July 2012 19:12 (eleven years ago) link

I've posted about this before but I cannot express how unbelievably, massively postal I am getting over the unceasing noise of my boss sitting behind me, open-mouthedly crunching loudly on fucking rice crackers ALL DAY LONG. Like she seriously dips into her little plastic bucket, rattles around in it then slowly noisily munches away, at least 3 times a day. I get uncontrollably tense hearing the noise and have to put my headphones on. Uuuughhh.

Pureed Moods (Trayce), Friday, 6 July 2012 00:30 (eleven years ago) link

OH NO! you'll have to listen to ~music~! horrible horrible music!

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 6 July 2012 02:51 (eleven years ago) link

;p

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 6 July 2012 02:51 (eleven years ago) link

quiet you!

Pureed Moods (Trayce), Friday, 6 July 2012 04:17 (eleven years ago) link

Well, I didn't get my promotion after all. I thought I was a shoe-in!

Again, it's not my nature to be bitter, it just seems to be the system that people get turned down for promotions and jobs and it should be "understood" why.

But to be passed over by someone I know isn't that talented and doesn't work very hard and is simply good at calling attention to herself kind of hurts. I actually got told by my boss that it was because I don't "sell" myself. I was taught growing up that you had to work really hard to deserve anything, that it wouldn't be handed to you. That hard sell was arrogant and aggressive and entitled.

Again, maybe I have the problem and need to improve my skill sets.

Jim wants answers (tootie and the blowfish), Saturday, 7 July 2012 02:39 (eleven years ago) link

No, I think any reasonable human has contempt for the person who sends out an e-mail to announce that they've completed some minor task. Unfortunately bosses are not reasonable humans for the most part

President Keyes, Saturday, 7 July 2012 02:59 (eleven years ago) link

showing as idle for literal hours on communicator while working from home.

gyac, Monday, 9 July 2012 18:27 (eleven years ago) link

I've had to explain to my line manager no less than four times what my working arrangement is this summer: "three days a week, Wednesday to Friday." I even sent a little colour-coded calendar to show the days I will work. Twice. This has been going on for like a month now. At one point he told payroll that I'd be working 4-5 days each week in July (I think this was after the second time I told him I wanted to do max three days per week).
WTF seriously. It's not that confusing is it??

Sometimes I with this thread was on 77 and then I realise it's probably for the best that it isn't. I would just complain all. the. time.

salsa shark, Monday, 9 July 2012 20:44 (eleven years ago) link

isn't that a good thing if he wants you to be on payroll for four days, while you work only three?!

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 9 July 2012 20:47 (eleven years ago) link

STOP CORRECTING HIM IMMEDIATELY!

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 9 July 2012 20:47 (eleven years ago) link

^^
"Oh, I figured after our second conversation it had been cleared up. I don't look at my paystubs closely"

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Monday, 9 July 2012 20:55 (eleven years ago) link

"... or go ahead, it's not like you'd notice anything."

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 9 July 2012 20:56 (eleven years ago) link

Some kindly mod deindexed this thread a few days ago, so while it's not on 77, it isn't searchable if that helps.

carl agatha, Monday, 9 July 2012 20:56 (eleven years ago) link

This afternoon I went to have coffee with a coworker who is neither stupid nor annoying and of whom I am quite fond. On the way back, we tried to catch an elevator (as I've mentioned before, the elevators in our building are notoriously slow and awful so people go to great lengths to grab one when it's available) and she stuck her hand between the doors at the last minute and the door shut on her hand. She was so laid back about it, I thought she was just fucking around. I'm all "Haha you are funny!" And she just smiled and really calmly said, "No, my hand is actually stuck." I had to grab her wrist with both hands and give it a good tug, but I pulled her hand out. She shook it off, literally, and we got in the next elevator and went back to talking about whatever work bullshit we had been talking about when she nearly lost a hand.

She just now showed me a nasty red mark on her arm and said that she's weirdly calm under pressure and that she probably won't freak out about what happened until sometime later tonight.

carl agatha, Monday, 9 July 2012 21:13 (eleven years ago) link

Like, I didn't really get how stuck she was until I saw her hand. She was really stuck! But she was so fucking chill about it.

With the addition of this incident, in the last couple years I've seen somebody get hit by a car, somebody fall face first into a stationary train (and lay there dazed and bleeding at my feet until the ambo came), somebody who fell face first into a revolving door, and somebody who got his foot stuck between the train and the platform (mind the gap, motherfucker!). Those last two happened in the last two or three months.

I need people to stop having near-horrific accidents in my vicinity. It's making me jumpy.

carl agatha, Monday, 9 July 2012 21:17 (eleven years ago) link

stay away from me!

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 9 July 2012 21:40 (eleven years ago) link

I want to stay away from me! After the last two, I am so careful about watching my feet I'm probably going to walk into a pole and die of a closed head injury.

carl agatha, Monday, 9 July 2012 22:10 (eleven years ago) link

I walked into a pole once. I was perving on a guy at the time :/

Pureed Moods (Trayce), Monday, 9 July 2012 22:10 (eleven years ago) link

Ugh everyone at work seems to have the dumb today.

boss: "can you guys make sure you dont leave the meeting room in a mess when you leave it? Theres tissues (?) and mess on the table and the TV is all out of place bla bla"
workmate, bafffled: "we didn't move the tv at all, and we didnt bring anything into the meeting room to have been left a mess, huh?"
boss: "just dont do it again"

lol wtf

then 5 mins later
workmate: "please send me the list of customers affected by the migration"
me: "what, the list in the document i just sent you in the email you're replying to?"

*head goes on desk here*

Pureed Moods (Trayce), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 01:31 (eleven years ago) link

chinese food at your desk? Srsly?

deems irreverent (darraghmac), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 12:12 (eleven years ago) link

Someone in our office microwaved popcorn this morning and I feel I now have an insight into the pain jon was suffering for so long upthread. Thankfully it only stank out the kitchen and not the office itself, but yeuch if I had to smell that 3 times a day I would probably have to quit.

The Eyeball Of Hull (Colonel Poo), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 12:19 (eleven years ago) link

Summer interns are getting on my nerves. It is a design and photographic publisher and they are two stereotypical child psychology major types. Academically, their background is a little lightweight for what we do. We don't edit children's textbooks.

Either their academic advisor plays golf with HR or HR felt sorry for them for their lack of qualifications.

chinese food at your desk? Srsly?

where do you expect me to eat it when it's 3.30 and has become apparent that I'm not going to get an actual break tbh

¥╡*ٍ*╞¥ (sic), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 13:33 (eleven years ago) link

I'm a regular desk eating offender, I admit, but so is my office mate so I assume we're all good.

carl agatha, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 14:22 (eleven years ago) link

a guy two cubes down is in the middle of an expletive-ridden 5 minute+ monologue rant on a hypothetical situation that he invented. we're in the midst of workforce attrition - for every 2 people who leave, we can only hire one new employee. angry guy says "you know what's going to happen? 5 managers leave, they fill their 5 positions and fire 10 staff! and these shithead managers will have no one to manage! they don't actually do any fucking work themselves! they...etcetcetc"

Mad God 40/40 (Z S), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 18:21 (eleven years ago) link

COWORKER WALKING DOWN THE HALL WHISTLING THE ANDY GRIFFIN SHOW THEME SONG AS LOUD AS YOU CAN: THAT IS NOT CUTE. IT IS DUMB AND ANNOYING. STOP IT RIGHT NOW. YOU SUCK.

carl agatha, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 22:08 (eleven years ago) link

Maybe s/he is still in mourning, jeez.

heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 22:10 (eleven years ago) link

COWORKER WALKING DOWN THE HALL WHISTLING THE ANDY GRIFFIN SHOW THEME SONG AS LOUD AS YOU CAN: THAT IS NOT CUTE. IT IS DUMB AND ANNOYING. STOP IT RIGHT NOW. YOU SUCK.

this is me.

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 22:16 (eleven years ago) link

I hate to tell you this, but you suck.

carl agatha, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 22:26 (eleven years ago) link

tbf I'm trying to finish writing a thing that has been annoying and elusive for a couple of days and shrill whistling that continued on for far longer than necessary sent me a little over the edge.

carl agatha, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 22:26 (eleven years ago) link

My dog loves Andy Griffith for some reason. He watches the whole show. But what is up with obsessive compulsive.

Aww. My Grandparents' cockatiel used to whistle that theme all the time; I've been trying to teach my own bird for the last year but he's having a lot of trouble.

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 01:37 (eleven years ago) link

I would never whistle at work but people hum at work all of the time, which doesn't bother me, but some people think it's low class.

When I was a kid my best friends' parents had been in a concentration camp as a child, and they said the guards used to whistle. After they told me that, I developed a huge complex about being a white Christian American.

I don't think I ever whistled again, it would conjure images of work camps and chain gangs!

One of the janitors at my last job used to whistle "Patience" by Guns 'n' Roses all the time but he would always mess it up!

cwkiii, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 13:54 (eleven years ago) link

My family would have whistling contests when I was little. Italians hum, sing, whistle around the house all of the time! But to this day I'm scarred by whistling!

I'm not opposed to whistling in general. This unknown coworker was whistling SUPER LOUD while walking down a hall lined with offices where people are writing things and it just struck me as an affectation, plus it was rude.

carl agatha, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 14:28 (eleven years ago) link

usually i just hum, or go "do-de-do de doooo"

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 14:40 (eleven years ago) link

i usually clap my hands way above my head like i'm at a U2 concert in Europe in 1989

Mad God 40/40 (Z S), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 14:48 (eleven years ago) link

<3 ZS you are amazing

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 15:01 (eleven years ago) link

That's true, whistling in an office environment is a bit chirpy. I guess I've heard janitors or delivery people do it, but I'm not class biased. But if you're not doing manual labor, you're a desk jockey it's a bit weird.

One co-worker just asked another co-worker why her headphones are labeled "left" and "right" and if it mattered which ears she put them in. The response was that it's "personal preference".

cwkiii, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 17:27 (eleven years ago) link

Responder went on to explain how "some studios manipulate it so that certain sounds only come out of one of them."

cwkiii, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 17:29 (eleven years ago) link

HOLY SHIT NO ONE CARES THAT PARTS OF FUNNY FARM WERE FILMED IN THE TOWN YOU GREW UP IN SHUT UP

cwkiii, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 19:51 (eleven years ago) link

The coworker that I bitched about for bringing me a 30 page senate bill to read and interpret for her so she could win in a fight with someone in the union who insisted I read it even after I told her I didn't have time to do so? She came back today before I got in to find out what I'd thought, and told our admin to tell me to come by her office and tell her what I thought about the senate bill.

That's damn nervy, sister.

carl agatha, Friday, 13 July 2012 19:35 (eleven years ago) link

What does anyone think of people who think you need to "sell out" a little bit in order to bring in a sensible amount of money?

I'm finding this argument less persuasive as I get older. And yes, even I have tried the "sell out" thing.

I guess it depends on the definition of sell out? I feel like I sold out by going to work for the government instead of working for a nonprofit or legal service agency, even though I make shit money and still ostensibly am advocating on behalf of workers, albeit in a quieter way than I had hoped.

carl agatha, Sunday, 15 July 2012 01:33 (eleven years ago) link

omgomgomg

We use Lexis as our subscription database here and as an attorney, I use it ALL THE TIME like all attorneys do. It is a famous program. It, or its competitor Westlaw, is a piece of famous legal software. For some reason, when I try to search, I get routed to a Google 404-ish page with a weird text string in the search box. So I called our New! Improved! computer help desk center, waited on hold for ten minutes, and the guy who answered had NEVER HEARD OF LEXIS. Never heard of it. He actually said, "Well, I've never heard of this program so I'm not sure what I can do."

Finally got him to escalate a ticket (instead of just saying, "Oh, okay, I don't need this critical application anymore, thanks"). How long will it take, I ask, because I've got some deadlines and need to do some research. He has no idea. He just couldn't say. Can he make it high priority? He can, but it might take awhile, depends on how busy people are.

There will be blood.

carl agatha, Tuesday, 17 July 2012 14:32 (eleven years ago) link

is your computer switched on?

^ sarcasm (ken c), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 14:35 (eleven years ago) link

I'll let the desk side service person turn it off and turn it back on if/when s/he gets here just to be passive aggressive.

carl agatha, Tuesday, 17 July 2012 14:44 (eleven years ago) link

Jesus fucking christ!! I had at least heard the names "Lexis" and "Lexis Nexis" as far back as middle school b/c I picked them up from the world around me - prob. from advertising and maybe from school? But for a person at a help desk, supporting a pretty big bunch of government agencies employing many, many legal professionals to have never heard of it?? That person's employment needs to be re-evaluated.

Je55e, Tuesday, 17 July 2012 17:02 (eleven years ago) link

Nobody has addressed my open help ticket yet, btw.

carl agatha, Tuesday, 17 July 2012 17:06 (eleven years ago) link

posts very much in character warning:

So popcorn girl has really tamed down the popcorn lately, until this week it had been like once every couple of weeks. Very tolerable. But suddenly, she's rocketed back up to three bags a day both yesterday and today. Which, going beyond the awful-smelling cheap crap she burns, who wants to eat popcorn multiple times a day when it reaches 100 degrees outside? idgi

heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 22:05 (eleven years ago) link

Three bags of popcorn/day. She must have the most amazing digestive system.

Nobody has addressed my open help ticket yet, btw. <-- going to make that my display name soon

carl agatha, Tuesday, 17 July 2012 22:10 (eleven years ago) link

guy right behind me (in a call centre, mind) comes in, sits at his desk at 8.59, waits for the first call of the day, inhales like he's about to cartoon blow the fuckin wall down and says EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEYYYY-AWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW, EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEYYYY-AWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW, EEEEEEEEEEEYYYYYYY-AWWWWWWWWWW until lunch time. he takes an hour off, bums round, whatever, sits back at desk, another huge breath in, fills the aul lungs up good, that phone rings, EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEYYY-AWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW, EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEYYYYYYYYYYY-AWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW, EEEEEEEEEEEEEYY-AWWWWWWWWWWWWW until 5pm, logs off, goes home, presumably to a fuckin stable i dunno

starfish entryprize (darraghmac), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 22:26 (eleven years ago) link

oh look wait i got a pic of the fucker right here

http://cache2.artprintimages.com/p/LRG/26/2687/FKWUD00Z/jodi-cobb-close-view-of-a-braying-donkey.jpg

starfish entryprize (darraghmac), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 22:27 (eleven years ago) link

nobody would hire that kind of a animal to answer a phone

contenderizer, Tuesday, 17 July 2012 22:48 (eleven years ago) link

ha i was wondering have i mentioned this dude yet and sure enough

i notice yanks didn't address my earlier question maybe they didn't hear me over the BRAYING HAWS of this mountainous amadán to my right

― underleg aeroboots i have smithed (darraghmac), Friday, 4 May 2012 09:16 (2 months ago)

starfish entryprize (darraghmac), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 22:59 (eleven years ago) link

xp public sector

starfish entryprize (darraghmac), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 22:59 (eleven years ago) link

Jvc, popcorn woman crosses my mind sometimes, so your update is interesting. Condolences though.

Je55e, Tuesday, 17 July 2012 23:27 (eleven years ago) link

omg darraghmac's post is killing me.

logs off, goes home, presumably to a fuckin stable i dunno

Why is this so funny? It is so funny.

carl agatha, Tuesday, 17 July 2012 23:29 (eleven years ago) link

you have the benefit of critical distance, this motherfucker better have the benefit of critical illness cover

starfish entryprize (darraghmac), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 23:30 (eleven years ago) link

I'm definitely laughing with you, and not at your pain. Also I'm imagining a donkey sitting in a cubicle, straightening his tie before braying into the phone all day.

carl agatha, Tuesday, 17 July 2012 23:32 (eleven years ago) link

Carl, it's inexcusable that your help desk isn't being held accountable for their inexcusable incompetence.

Xp the pic of the donkey made it funny

Je55e, Tuesday, 17 July 2012 23:32 (eleven years ago) link

he has a big honest moonish face and talks shite with the confidence of a man who has never fully understood any of the complaints made about him

starfish entryprize (darraghmac), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 23:35 (eleven years ago) link

Sound like its just his job. Position involves just being a burro, so guy who lives in a stable was a good fit.

Je55e, Tuesday, 17 July 2012 23:37 (eleven years ago) link

oy that's my job too

but yes you are right

starfish entryprize (darraghmac), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 23:38 (eleven years ago) link

Are here many positions for braying men in Ireland? I'm very good, but you just can't make a job of it here. Gotta think whether a Yank accented bray would cut it over there, too.

Je55e, Tuesday, 17 July 2012 23:54 (eleven years ago) link

as far as i can tell, there's steady work pretty much anywhere for a fella willing to bray like an ass, most of it is in politics tho iirc

starfish entryprize (darraghmac), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 23:58 (eleven years ago) link

haaaaa

I solved it!

We just got a call in from someone insisting on caint as gaeilge- it was transferred to this guy, and he speaks irish like a warrior poet, and QUIETLY

starfish entryprize (darraghmac), Wednesday, 18 July 2012 11:29 (eleven years ago) link

jfc, can't you at least wait until lunchtime for the popcorn?

heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 18 July 2012 15:10 (eleven years ago) link

xp deems that is an amazing turn of events

where can i get a mcdonalds quesadilla tho (silby), Wednesday, 18 July 2012 15:13 (eleven years ago) link

ikr, he's bilingual volume schizo

starfish entryprize (darraghmac), Wednesday, 18 July 2012 15:17 (eleven years ago) link

how many times do i have to tell you something to remember it? literally 5 times in the past two days i've clarified my role on a specific project, and you keep remembering it wrong, and i have to keep correcting you. the information has not changed!

rayuela, Wednesday, 18 July 2012 17:02 (eleven years ago) link

About eight months ago a person in management who is politically connected and has no scruples used her pull to have a good friend of mine (who I referred to her job, even) ousted from her position so the person's husband, who already had a job elsewhere mind you, could have it. Gross, right? So other than keeping the bare minimum of pleasant interaction with this person, I've avoided her and her husband even though she and I used to have water cooler chats occasionally and like, I saw her wedding photos and coworker shit like that.

Until first thing this morning when I had to email her because I forgot to take all of the incentive days I racked up (for every two furlough days we took last year, we got one paid day off as an "incentive day") before the deadline and I need to know if I can swap them out for previously taken vacation days.

I haven't heard back from her, or actually from the help desk about my Lexis issue either.

carl agatha, Wednesday, 18 July 2012 17:02 (eleven years ago) link

OMG you guys! The help desk FINALLY called me back, almost two full business days after I called to report a high priority issue! And also, after I fixed the problem myself (by using a different browser) and called to cancel the ticket this morning! Two things:

1. I remarked on their atrocious response time, to which the guy replied, "I'm doing the best I can."
2. I remarked on the pitifulness of a service desk support person never having heard of Lexis, an app used by at least one and usually many people in every agency. He said, "You really can't expect every service desk person to know every app people use."

Then I told him I had already solved the problem myself by using a different browser and so canceled the ticket this morning. He then went on to tell me how I can solve the problem in the future by using a different browser.

That last part does not strike me as particularly unique to our IT department though.

carl agatha, Wednesday, 18 July 2012 20:49 (eleven years ago) link

omfg I love that he told you how to do the thing you did
ah, IT. you blow goats.

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Wednesday, 18 July 2012 20:53 (eleven years ago) link

As it was happening I was thinking, "Wait. Is he really telling me to do what I just told him I did? He is!" I was honestly kind of delighted because I knew I could come share it here.

carl agatha, Wednesday, 18 July 2012 20:54 (eleven years ago) link

Hahahaha, it's nice to have stories :)

Awesome coworkers:
Coworker took out $360(!) that she owed another coworker (used her credit card to claim a discount on something.. she'd already used her own card for the first purchase) and then just left it in the ATM! Realized about 4 hours later. So she and I scouted the building, talked to security, the bank, etc. Coworker put a sign with our business line on the ATM for any good samaritans who may wish to return the money. But in the meantime another coworker started a collection and we've got about $160 now in a jar to replace her money! I am pleased by this. I also threw in the first $20 to shame-compel. :D

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Wednesday, 18 July 2012 20:57 (eleven years ago) link

my recent IT call (another issue that i resolved myself by looking through tutorials on adobe's website) ended with the person suggesting that i attend a webinar in two weeks and ask them there. my question was about how to record a webinar. attend the webinar to learn how to use the webinar software.

your friend, (Z S), Wednesday, 18 July 2012 20:58 (eleven years ago) link

That's a great story Finefinemusic, love that the coworkers are helping out. I did a similar sort of thing a few years back, but I accidentally dropped the envelope full of cash at some point. I was pretty distraught about it, but my coworker just said "lol dumbass, you'll learn next time".

heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 18 July 2012 21:02 (eleven years ago) link

It feels good to see everyone pull together! The president came by & laughed at her (they've got a relationship where this is okay) but came back twenty minutes later with a $20. :)

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Wednesday, 18 July 2012 21:14 (eleven years ago) link

That is amazing, ZS.

FFM, your story is pretty sweet, too. ;)

carl agatha, Wednesday, 18 July 2012 21:18 (eleven years ago) link

The ZS story kinda reminds me of when I was having tons of issues with my C0mc@st router and I kept having to call them for tech support. Every single time they'd make me power cycle the router, so I just started doing it before I called them to save time, knowing that was not the issue. 75% of the time even after informing them that, yes, I did already power cycle the router and having them even say "okay, let's see what else we can do", they would STILL walk me step by step through power cycling it.

heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 18 July 2012 21:21 (eleven years ago) link

...ended with the person suggesting that i attend a webinar in two weeks and ask them there. my question was about how to record a webinar. attend the webinar to learn how to use the webinar software.

haha! I got an outge notification from one of the upstream wholesale telcos we use, the other day, saying [OurPortalURL] is currently not accessible. bla bla services afected etc. For further information, please log onto [samePortalURL no one can access].

o_0

Pureed Moods (Trayce), Thursday, 19 July 2012 05:39 (eleven years ago) link

oh, coworker, your snitty passive aggressive tone in the emails is even more grating than usual today.

rayuela, Thursday, 19 July 2012 13:58 (eleven years ago) link

is it right to claim two offices? one in each building? when realestate is already scarce? is this a boss faux pa?

The Cheerfull Turtle (Latham Green), Thursday, 19 July 2012 14:00 (eleven years ago) link

yes i would think so. are the buildings close to each other?

rayuela, Thursday, 19 July 2012 14:02 (eleven years ago) link

walkable. in fact one of the offices previously housed TWO people and is used about .05% of the time now while two people are crammed in the adjacent office

The Cheerfull Turtle (Latham Green), Thursday, 19 July 2012 14:39 (eleven years ago) link

sounds like that boss is being selfish!

ugh, this person i work with is not a team player.

rayuela, Thursday, 19 July 2012 15:22 (eleven years ago) link

warning: i might be extra grumpy about work in the future. was denied a promotion and am looking for a new job...

rayuela, Thursday, 19 July 2012 15:23 (eleven years ago) link

Oh boo. I hope you find something fantastic! And fast! Because leaving the crap job that denied you a promotion for something much better is going to be sweeeeet.

carl agatha, Thursday, 19 July 2012 15:37 (eleven years ago) link

thanks carl!!

rayuela, Thursday, 19 July 2012 15:47 (eleven years ago) link

can't you over-rule the denial of yoru promotion? my job is so unorganized it almost seems like I could give myself a promotion and there wouldnt be much anyone could do about it

The Cheerfull Turtle (Latham Green), Thursday, 19 July 2012 15:49 (eleven years ago) link

huygens to thread!! "YOU ARE PROMOTION!"

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a4/Christiaan_Huygens-painting.jpeg

The Cheerfull Turtle (Latham Green), Thursday, 19 July 2012 15:51 (eleven years ago) link

i mean it's kind of a blessing in disguise in the sense that i don't really like what i do, but the salary & benefits make it tolerable, so then i just sit here at this job, stagnating. so the promotion denial was kind of a wake up call.

it's just that there is day-to-day stuff where shit happens and i let my resentment over it bubble up. (like, this other person who got promoted is a really bad team player and has zero management skills or initiative and sometimes it just makes me a bit nutty) But really it should just be a motivating factor for me to find a job to which i am better suited and care a little more about.

rayuela, Thursday, 19 July 2012 15:53 (eleven years ago) link

Sounds like a lot of things suck, rayuela, I'm sorry! I hope you can find the awesome job.
I was hoping to create myself a marketing job but I put some feelers out and it looks like the new branch of our company won't be big enough to need what I hoped to offer so I have to keep plugging away at my job that I am good at (numbers: I feel like if I could just get into mktg/design I could be great at my job, which I would prefer to be.)

Taught a marketing girl how to do a screenshot today, turned around and she was doing it in the same roundabout way I'd just corrected. SIGH. If I could give myself a promotion I would be the Style Advisor or whatever the equivalent job is. These lazy, poor photoshoppers shouldn't be allowed to send anything out of the office without me looking over it. Company conference powerpoint had the word 'STRAGETY' in big capitals on a card explaining how focused we are on excellence ;_; I think I complained before about how I showed mktg girl how to correct a photoshop error (liquid pouring in front of a bottle instead of into) and she sent it out to national ad campaign without fixing it :(

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Thursday, 19 July 2012 15:58 (eleven years ago) link

and why the devil won't chrome play an m4a file from your google drive in the browser windows!

The Cheerfull Turtle (Latham Green), Thursday, 19 July 2012 16:01 (eleven years ago) link

thanks ffm!

those sound like pretty big errors -- you should use them as examples when you make your case for Style Advisor)

rayuela, Thursday, 19 July 2012 16:13 (eleven years ago) link

:D
lol the 2 coworkers I help the most were just talking about their reviews & how they want to ask for me to do a photoshop training! hell no, I will not train. I just want to do. ;)

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Thursday, 19 July 2012 16:15 (eleven years ago) link

everyone around me in my cuberhood is whispering. god i hate this shit. i want to walk around yelling "seeeeeecrets!"

"SEEEEeeecrets!"

i get that every once in a while you need to tell a secret, but this shit is getting out of hand. all i hear is "whs-whiissp-shhh-whissshp-sshwhwhs-E-XACT-LY-whsis--whiiissspper--whisper--whish-whissper-E-CACT-LY"

your friend, (Z S), Thursday, 19 July 2012 16:16 (eleven years ago) link

just make low -key grunting noises that sound like you are a zombie - its fun

The Cheerfull Turtle (Latham Green), Thursday, 19 July 2012 16:25 (eleven years ago) link

everyone around me in my cuberhood is whispering. god i hate this shit. i want to walk around yelling "seeeeeecrets!"

Fuuuuuckk yessssssssss The very noise whispering makes is, in of itself, irritating but yeah the whole ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT OTHER PEOPLE? thing... so rude.

In an old, shitty govt job I had, a large bunch of the office ladies would drop into Greek when they wanted to bitch (and oh boy it was really obvious - everyone whos lived in melb for a few years picks up a little greek eventually). That caused a bit of a shitstorm when others complained. It was like "theyre bitching about us!" vs "you cant discriminate against my cultural background!" and eventually I just resigned bcz fuck that noise.

Pureed Moods (Trayce), Thursday, 19 July 2012 23:39 (eleven years ago) link

I'm seriously the cube in the center of this whispering club, but I think they don't mind me hearing the whispers because they're not talking about me and they know i won't rat them out (except, er, on the internet!). but the thing is, of course, when people talk shit all the time about other people, it makes you wonder what they're saying about you when you're not around.

your friend, (Z S), Friday, 20 July 2012 12:52 (eleven years ago) link

Oh yeah, there are a group of girls in my office who all knew each other from college and they frequently walk around the office whispering and looking around. Its annoying. I just want to stand up and start singing that elementary school rhyme, "secrets secrets are no fun, secrets secrets hurt someone!".

heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 20 July 2012 13:52 (eleven years ago) link

Another attorney used the word "penultimate" in a decision he wrote, which apparently completely flummoxed my boss. He brought the word to my coworker, who had never heard of it, and he keeps talking about "He made me have to go to the dictionary!" and talking about how he's going to bust this other attorney's balls for using such a big word.

I am having that feeling again where I am pretty sure I am living in a different reality than everybody else around me.

carl agatha, Friday, 20 July 2012 20:34 (eleven years ago) link

Also the crazy hymn-singing security guard was having an animated phone conversation whilst mid-poop in the bathroom telling someone not to park in front of Miss Cookie's house because she'll steal the car and I could use some cheering today so...

ms. cookie (carl agatha), Friday, 20 July 2012 20:36 (eleven years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/7UPLUl.jpg

Je55e, Friday, 20 July 2012 20:40 (eleven years ago) link

Seriously, though, penultimate is not a crazy big rare word, right? It's not like nonplussed where it looks like it would mean the opposite of what it means, or like sesquipedalian in that it's hard as hell to even sound out and seriously nobody uses that word. Right?

ms. cookie (carl agatha), Friday, 20 July 2012 20:48 (eleven years ago) link

I love that cat.

ms. cookie (carl agatha), Friday, 20 July 2012 20:53 (eleven years ago) link

Can that cat come hang out with me at work?

ms. cookie (carl agatha), Friday, 20 July 2012 20:53 (eleven years ago) link

nah, penultimate is fine.

i remember being at a party once (IN CHICAGO) and i said "lynchian" and this girl got all pissed about it. earlier i had mentioned that i was heading off to graduate school in the fall and so she was like "are you going to study 'lynchian' things at grad school?" and laughed and laughed. it felt terrible

your friend, (Z S), Friday, 20 July 2012 20:55 (eleven years ago) link

I would understand what you meant by "Lynchian" but it makes sense that someone at a party might not (although she shouldn't have made you feel bad about saying it, dang). It just seems like lawyers and judges should be familiar with words like penultimate. Or at least not act like it is some kind of AMAZING and NEVER BEFORE SEEN word that has never graced the pages of a legal opinion. I mean holy shit, do these people read case law? Even one time ever?

ms. cookie (carl agatha), Friday, 20 July 2012 21:01 (eleven years ago) link

or just read in general!

but yeah, i shouldn't have said lynchian but thought the response was totally disproportionate to the mistake!

your friend, (Z S), Friday, 20 July 2012 21:02 (eleven years ago) link

Totally disproportionate.

Shortly after The Shins Chutes Too Narrow came out I was talking with one of Jesse's friends at a bar and he mentioned liking the song So Says I and I started drunkenly babbling about Thomas Moore and what it meant in the song and how amazing it was and that dude actually did the thing where he looked around, said, "Ummmm... I need to go over here" and walked away from me to stand by himself at another part of the bar. To be fair, I was being a prat.

ms. cookie (carl agatha), Friday, 20 July 2012 21:08 (eleven years ago) link

BUT come to think of it, this dude was part of a group of people who were really into being super exclusionary about their topics of conversation in an attempt to preserve the illusion of being some kind of small town intelligentsia to which the rest of us can only aspire so fuck that guy.

ms. cookie (carl agatha), Friday, 20 July 2012 21:11 (eleven years ago) link

Uh, I thought you told me that you realized later that that guy was actually just not that bright and you had broken his brain. IIRC, you told me b/c you thought maybe you weren't making sense, but then you realized that you'd lost him and he was running away b/c he thought you were speaking in tounges.

He was a really nice guy, but he wasn't especially smart.

Je55e, Friday, 20 July 2012 21:17 (eleven years ago) link

tongues

Je55e, Friday, 20 July 2012 21:18 (eleven years ago) link

But one thing is for sure: your boss is really being penultimate.

Je55e, Friday, 20 July 2012 21:18 (eleven years ago) link

In my callow youth, I'm sure I attributed his departure to his own stupidity but in hindsight, that feels like a crappy way to look at it. It's safer to assume that I was being a jerk because it will keep me from doing that again.

ms. cookie (carl agatha), Friday, 20 July 2012 21:21 (eleven years ago) link

It's also possible I was speaking in drunken, slurred tongues and he just couldn't understand what the fuck I was talking about.

ms. cookie (carl agatha), Friday, 20 July 2012 21:22 (eleven years ago) link

It was a funny anecdote when you first thought he was walking away out of pity to keep you from embarrassing yourself further with your facile and incorrect thoughts on Moore but then you realized he was just confused. Whatever, let's just settle on you both being too drunk to remember who the other was.

Je55e, Friday, 20 July 2012 21:37 (eleven years ago) link

Sorry everyone. We're still waiting on Gr80 to build us our own thread.

Je55e, Friday, 20 July 2012 21:39 (eleven years ago) link

crazy, antagonistic division meeting (about 20 people in the room). we were doing the regular thing, going around the room to provide updates. but this time, for whatever reason, people were just sniping at each other, making insults under their breath, admonishing others for whispering while they were speaking (and then proceeding to whisper themselves while others were speaking), rolling their eyes, for an hour straight. the one lady who got really antagonistic during her update started out with a surprising anecdote:

"I'm about to have a hot flash!"

and then got more aggressive from there

you're all going to hello (Z S), Tuesday, 24 July 2012 14:16 (eleven years ago) link

amazing!

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 24 July 2012 15:06 (eleven years ago) link

The hymn singing security guard was just singing in the bathroom again, but not a hymn. Three Blind Mice. She was full on belting out Three Blind Mice, church-style, while in the stall.

ms. cookie (carl agatha), Tuesday, 24 July 2012 17:37 (eleven years ago) link

HOW DO YOU NOT LOVE THIS WOMAN???

shmamille shmaglia (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 25 July 2012 03:58 (eleven years ago) link

"I'm about to have a hot flash!"

and then got more aggressive from there

Using menopause as a threat, thats a unique one.

Pureed Moods (Trayce), Wednesday, 25 July 2012 06:58 (eleven years ago) link

i'm supposed to be in the office on my own ffs stop wandering in here to have yr inane conversations and let me play nethack in peace

Tartar Mouantcheoux (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 25 July 2012 12:26 (eleven years ago) link

HOW DO YOU NOT LOVE THIS WOMAN???

I'm still a little bitter about the time I found one of my coworkers collapsed unconscious on the bathroom floor, went to the security guard for help, and she proceeded to run in and out of the bathroom yelling "Oh Jesus! Help me Jesus!" Quit calling Jesus and call 911, you dingbat!

I admit to appreciating her, however, as her weirdness does add to the absurdity of my work situation and sometimes that absurdity is the only thing that gets me through my day.

ms. cookie (carl agatha), Wednesday, 25 July 2012 12:45 (eleven years ago) link

What had happened to your co-worker, if you don't mind me asking?

how's life, Wednesday, 25 July 2012 12:55 (eleven years ago) link

I don't know specifically. She's in her mid to late 80s (lol public employees wringing every last penny out of their pension) so it could have been a whole host of things. She's been back at work for a couple of years now and is as crabby and gossip-mongering as ever.

(I eventually told the security guard, "Go get [coworker who sits closest to the bathroom and isn't completely useless in a crisis] and tell her to come here NOW," and then sent that person to call 911. So she's not totally ineffective if you give her very explicit instructions.)

ms. cookie (carl agatha), Wednesday, 25 July 2012 13:01 (eleven years ago) link

About three months ago, I was talking to a coworker at the water cooler when he suddenly collapsed in pain and had to be called away in an ambulance due to a low back spasm, and then about a year and a half ago, another (now former) coworker waited in ambush behind a cubicle wall for his boss and then jumped out and beat the shit out of her. A year ago somebody from another agency jumped to her death from inside the building. I wasn't witness to the latter two although I was the pugilistic coworker's union steward.

So, you know, the security guard should really be able to step up in a crisis.

ms. cookie (carl agatha), Wednesday, 25 July 2012 13:07 (eleven years ago) link

o_O

remind me to never visit carl's work.

heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 25 July 2012 14:34 (eleven years ago) link

And after ten years, tips!

http://lifehacker.com/5929218/the-worst-coworkers-and-workplace-annoyances-and-how-to-deal-with-them

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 26 July 2012 15:46 (eleven years ago) link

No tips for dealing with loud chewing or burned popcorn, no credibility.

ms. cookie (carl agatha), Thursday, 26 July 2012 16:15 (eleven years ago) link

Jeez, an 80-year-old working isn't against the law?

My complaints (weird social caste politics, mostly) about work are pretty trivial compared to these Wal-Mart people.

Today I am helping organise the world's most inane Guinness world record attempt, something I have no interest in and no belief in the value of, which is scheduled to take place on Saturday, 28 July, when you can guarantee that there will not be even the slightest bit of media interest due to a certain big sports event starting. The people who came up with this are idiots.

computers are the new "cool tool" (James Morrison), Friday, 27 July 2012 02:50 (eleven years ago) link

ffs ffs ffs ffs ffs ffs ffs ffs

salsa shark, Friday, 27 July 2012 08:53 (eleven years ago) link

LOL james that sounds like the time my old boss came up with this mad idea to send a camera up in a weather balloon to take pics of the earth from on high, til it came back down.. we were all "someones already done it?" and he didnt care, he was so excited and planning it and testing cameras in freezers ....

it never ended up happening. No one really cared, lol.

Pureed Moods (Trayce), Friday, 27 July 2012 09:21 (eleven years ago) link

Someone did a series of find & replaces in a large Excel file I maintain and now nothing makes sense. Fuck you!!

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Friday, 27 July 2012 14:15 (eleven years ago) link

It's been bugging me for a while that in Word documents that the associate attorney I work with (bitched about frequently above) writes, URLs and email addresses show up as plain text instead of links or even underlined and in blue. Even when I open them on my computer, they won't become links.

Before he came in this morning I went into his office and looked at his settings on Word and saw that he had turned off every auto-correct/replace and auto-format option. Even smart quotes.

The only method I can see for turning off all these options is clicking them one-by-one. If I didn't know him, I would think Word was messed up, but he definitely turned them all off on purpose.

Je55e, Friday, 27 July 2012 18:07 (eleven years ago) link

I hate the setting that turns URLs to blue underlined links. I'd be okay with it if it just made it a link. Why does it have to be blue?

ms. cookie (carl agatha), Friday, 27 July 2012 19:00 (eleven years ago) link

Bc links are a different color b/c it's a convention, just like underlining them. If they're not a different color they don't stand out as much and they look like underlined text. To me. And to other people, obviously, since it became a convention for a reason.

Je55e, Friday, 27 July 2012 19:26 (eleven years ago) link

I don't like the automatic hyperlink feature either. I either turn them off or create custom templates where the hyperlink colour is not the default bright blue.

salsa shark, Friday, 27 July 2012 19:48 (eleven years ago) link

It would be different if I created Word documents for screen reading, but everything I write gets printed out and copied so clickable links are pointless and blue links look terrible on paper (they print light gray on a b&w printer). I'd be fine with blue clickable links if there was a separate style sheet for printing that turned the links black.

ms. cookie (carl agatha), Friday, 27 July 2012 20:22 (eleven years ago) link

Hyperlink formatting is (or can be) kryptonite for people in print publishing.

Your sweet bippy is going to hell (WmC), Friday, 27 July 2012 20:29 (eleven years ago) link

:-/

I'm going to go bitch to my co-workers about my stupid annoying internet friends.

Je55e, Friday, 27 July 2012 22:07 (eleven years ago) link

(joke - <3 - you're not stupid)

Je55e, Friday, 27 July 2012 22:38 (eleven years ago) link

Before he came in this morning I went into his office and looked at his settings on Word and saw that he had turned off every auto-correct/replace and auto-format option. Even smart quotes.

As would I, that shit is ... shit. Smart quotes especially. WmC is right, it is the worst nightmare in printing.

Pureed Moods (Trayce), Saturday, 28 July 2012 03:13 (eleven years ago) link

LOL james that sounds like the time my old boss came up with this mad idea to send a camera up in a weather balloon

Hah ha. Although that would have been more fun than this nonsense. (I'm at work now on a Saturday for the first time in ages. How did I use to do this regularly?)

Hyperlink formatting is (or can be) kryptonite for people in print publishing.

Yeah, when you bring a Word doc into InDesign the links get boxes and become active for PDFs, but this sucks when you're doing a magazine or book because they look mental

computers are the new "cool tool" (James Morrison), Saturday, 28 July 2012 03:56 (eleven years ago) link

>:(

I'm not talking about your fancy "print" and "magazines." We're just humble legal professionals printing on Konica Bizhubs and Canon printer/scanner/fax machine and sometimes converting to PDFs, and for us smart quotes and hyperlinks are convenient and useful.

I forgot to mention that I turned changed his auto-correct settings back to the way I thought they should be.

NOW who's a stupid, annoying co-worker, huh?

Je55e, Saturday, 28 July 2012 04:16 (eleven years ago) link

FWIW I think you can highlight links in word and change the colour if you want.

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Saturday, 28 July 2012 17:36 (eleven years ago) link

anticipating Jesse's coworker showing up here bitching about some insane coworker breaking into his/her office and changing all the settings on their computer!

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 28 July 2012 18:02 (eleven years ago) link

All I'm saying is that this guy might have accidentally done something that you all agree with but he did it for all the wrong reasons.

Je55e, Saturday, 28 July 2012 18:38 (eleven years ago) link

We're just humble legal professionals printing on Konica Bizhubs and Canon printer/scanner/fax machine and sometimes converting to PDFs, and for us smart quotes and hyperlinks are convenient and useful.

I can definitely see the use there, and in fact more people than not would find it useful, so fair dos.

computers are the new "cool tool" (James Morrison), Sunday, 29 July 2012 04:58 (eleven years ago) link

I kinda wish Je55e worked in one of those law offices where everyone is still clinging desperately to WordPerfect

where can i get a mcdonalds quesadilla tho (silby), Monday, 30 July 2012 04:50 (eleven years ago) link

I hear there are still a few of those left

where can i get a mcdonalds quesadilla tho (silby), Monday, 30 July 2012 04:50 (eleven years ago) link

I know someone who worked at a law software macro making company, called L4wperf3ct, for that very reason! Right up til recently (if not still).

Pureed Moods (Trayce), Monday, 30 July 2012 05:16 (eleven years ago) link

God damn when I was in law school I clerked for one of those WordPerfect clinging offices. About a year ago, I invited me to lunch to gauge my interest in working for them as a lawyer (and then they hired the other person I clerked with and never called me to tell me; I found out via the other clerk's Facebook page, those fuckers) and I made a joke about how they used to use WordPerfect and they were like, Oh yeah, we still do because you can't convert to PDF via Word.

ms. cookie (carl agatha), Monday, 30 July 2012 12:25 (eleven years ago) link

Jesus. Someone should direct them to this handy guide from a US court, where WordPerfect is still the only official word processing software hxxp://www.ilnd.uscourts.gov/home/cmecf/pdfs/v40/4-0_Create%20PDF%20from%20WordPerfect.pdf

Je55e, Monday, 30 July 2012 17:08 (eleven years ago) link

I read a little about why WP is still so prevalent in the legal field, esp in federal courts and it seems like price and inertia are the biggest factors. One story from Federal Computer Week Magazine (!) said many members of the legal community prefer WordPerfect because of a function that allows users to view and edit formatting codes. They also like the software’s ability to display a variety of legal tools. But that reason seems like it at least partly falls under "Inertia" b/c Word can reveal formatting codes. IDK which legal tools they are referring to though.

Je55e, Monday, 30 July 2012 17:16 (eleven years ago) link

hahaha THE HAMMER!

There are all sorts of legal tools for MS Word. smdh at these Word Perfect clingers. Also never underestimate inertia when you're dealing with lawyers and/or the government.

ms. cookie (carl agatha), Monday, 30 July 2012 19:29 (eleven years ago) link

acc to wiki WordPerf doesn't seem all that bad? I mean not as bad as companies who are forced to keep machines running Win98 bcz some crucial piece of software was coded w VB6 and has never been updated (acc to my dad it's actually just cheaper a lot of times to keep selling outdated software that only works on obsolete machines)

the mandy moorhols (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 30 July 2012 19:38 (eleven years ago) link

No it's really terrible.

ms. cookie (carl agatha), Monday, 30 July 2012 20:46 (eleven years ago) link

some moe syzlack type dude who sits behind me is getting on my shit. i got the vibes after a few weeks, but was confirmed today. did a good job and people went "yeah! spectrum!", and he came up to my cube and spouted some random-ass gibberish he was working on like he was gonna "get me" or something "oh yeah? do you know the g585890b on the spreadsheet??". this is the first time he's come up to speak to me in about a month. i'm like "yeah, good job dude" to kill the tension, but i think i'm done dealing with these trogs who get on me for being competent, particularly when i'm nice and respectful.

Spectrum, Tuesday, 31 July 2012 00:49 (eleven years ago) link

Crying out loud.

Two “colleagues” just having a chat about Friday’s opening Olympic ceremony, saying how bad it was and how they wanted Danny Boyle’s head on a spike. I kept my headphones on and pretended I couldn’t hear because I know how these things always end if I get involved.

I liked the ceremony, and understand why a lot of people wouldn’t, or didn’t, like it, but this really is Aidan Burley level…and I think, for the 5900th time in the last ten years, why am I working with people like this? Petty, pathetic, inadequate and I think beyond help. It reminds me that I ought to set about finding another way of making a living, maybe in another country, because this is just driving me nuts.

Air-conditioning wars.

It's 27C and v humid at our end of the office. I'm all sweaty and can't concentrate. But because it gets a bit cold at the other end of the office we can't have the A/C on. Why those fuckers can't just put a fucking jumper on is beyond me, it's not like I can sit around naked here.

Colonel Poo, Tuesday, 31 July 2012 12:55 (eleven years ago) link

Sounds like whoever planned and designed your office should have thought about it a bit more.

I am a firm believer that if you are cold, you put on a sweater because I sure as shit can't take anything else off.

My coworker asked if she could turn the heat on last Friday. It was around 90 F. She wanted the heat on because she was wearing a shirt skirt and short sleeves and still cannot get it together to bring a sweater to work despite having worked here for going on nine years. I just ignored her because if I had responded it would have been very mean.

ms. cookie (carl agatha), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 13:42 (eleven years ago) link

Oh she tried to turn the heat on, but of course the heat is off in the building so it did nothing. And still, she doesn't bring a sweater.

ms. cookie (carl agatha), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 13:42 (eleven years ago) link

don't be coy colonel poo - take yer top off

^ sarcasm (ken c), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 13:43 (eleven years ago) link

Ugh, my boss always adjusts the AC because one person is always cold. Meanwhile, I am always sweating to death.

tokyo rosemary, Tuesday, 31 July 2012 14:02 (eleven years ago) link

Hurrah! One of the directors turned up and now the A/C is on. No striptease was necessary.

Colonel Poo, Tuesday, 31 July 2012 14:04 (eleven years ago) link

It reminds me that I ought to set about finding another way of making a living, maybe in another country, because this is just driving me nuts.

Trust me, there are annoying people like that in every country.

heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 14:12 (eleven years ago) link

Last week it was 27C in the office and the woman who always complains it's too cold complained that it was too hot all day instead! Which was good because she let me open a window and have my fan on, but I could not work out what the fuck was so different from 2 days before when it was 26C in the office and I asked if I could open the window and she said "oh, but it's so cold and the wind will blow my papers away" (it was not windy that day at all and she's in the furthest corner from the window), so I turned my desk fan on instead and she whinged about it being noisy until I turned it off.

(everyone has these noisy little desk fans except her; she moved the one big silent fan from the corner to her desk and never uses it)

still small voice of clam (a passing spacecadet), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 21:18 (eleven years ago) link

i am in such a cranky mood and i could not stop my eyes from involuntarily rolling at this meeting i was just in, i mean you [coworker] are so anxious and nervous and fretful about everything that i just want you to reLAX, and maybe it would be less annoying if you weren't the supervisor but you are, so we have to spend hours and hours (ok not really hours) just going through your neuroses one by one like trying to calm little chickens that won't stop running around everywhere

rayuela, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 17:42 (eleven years ago) link

People I work with like to take wads of paper towels and use them as improvised gloves so they don't have to touch anything in the bathroom. I am somewhat sympathetic as our bathroom is a filthy shit hole, often quite literally but this also results in there constantly CONSTANTLY being piles of paper towels on the backs of the toilets, stuffed into the used pad receptacles that only get emptied once in a while so that they don't close and the aroma of used feminine hygiene products can waft freely into the rest of the bathroom, scattered on the floor, clogging up some of the toilets.

Anyway, they took out the paper towels and replaced them with two hand dryers (good ones with the crazy strong airflow, shockingly) and people are BUGGING THE FUCK OUT. And I think it's hilarious. Although I do miss having a paper towel to use to turn off the faucet.

ms. cookie (carl agatha), Wednesday, 1 August 2012 18:00 (eleven years ago) link

Our bathroom is like that too and it drives me fucking nuts. Germophobes drive me up a wall. If I remember (or if someone judgy seeming is watching) I'll open the door with my shoulder instead of putting my hand on the handle but otherwise I touch everything except the toilet handle but only because I now know that everyone else touches it with their freaking feet! The wads of paper towels in our bathroom are insane. By 5 o'clock it looks like someone just opened a pack and threw it around in there. Way grosser (and wasteful) to me than any possible germs on the handles.

(✿◠‿◠) (ENBB), Wednesday, 1 August 2012 18:04 (eleven years ago) link

I can't count the number of times in a week I hear someone say the words "Can you still sign in with my login?"

Why do I need these passwords and phone codes anyway.

pplains, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 18:08 (eleven years ago) link

maybe it would be less annoying if you weren't the supervisor but you are, so we have to spend hours and hours (ok not really hours) just going through your neuroses one by one like trying to calm little chickens that won't stop running around everywhere

this is my boss too!

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 1 August 2012 18:09 (eleven years ago) link

In other germaphobia news, the smell of scented hand sanitizers has been grossing me out lately. Just wash your hands!!!

tokyo rosemary, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 18:27 (eleven years ago) link

I'm never sure what thread to post stuff like this in but:

"Huh, I've never seen that before. I wonder what it is, what the Jew walking by is wearing."

tokyo rosemary, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 18:29 (eleven years ago) link

THE JEW

tokyo rosemary, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 18:29 (eleven years ago) link

sigh

tokyo rosemary, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 18:30 (eleven years ago) link

lol i just met a co-worker in the bathroom and as we were exiting I was first so grabbed the handle to push the door and she starts swatting me with a paper towel going "Ew! Don't touch that!" *swat* *swat*

(✿◠‿◠) (ENBB), Wednesday, 1 August 2012 19:34 (eleven years ago) link

This is the butt smacker btw who last week said to me "Damn girl, you have a nice butt! You always hide that under skirts but you should show that off more often!" I think maybe this is OK as we're now sort of friends. We even went shopping together last weekend. She still says weird shit without thinking but it's more entertaining than anything else. She's definitely redeemed herself since the ovaries incident.

(✿◠‿◠) (ENBB), Wednesday, 1 August 2012 19:38 (eleven years ago) link

lol i just met a co-worker in the bathroom and as we were exiting I was first so grabbed the handle to push the door and she starts swatting me with a paper towel going "Ew! Don't touch that!" *swat* *swat*

― (✿◠‿◠) (ENBB)

Tell her since everyone else uses paper towels on the door, it's perfectly clean.

nickn, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 20:01 (eleven years ago) link

That's exactly what I said to her tbh.

(✿◠‿◠) (ENBB), Wednesday, 1 August 2012 20:01 (eleven years ago) link

word for word

(✿◠‿◠) (ENBB), Wednesday, 1 August 2012 20:02 (eleven years ago) link

Ha, I would do that here but no one does the "Ewww" thing.

nickn, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 20:04 (eleven years ago) link

I'm never sure what thread to post stuff like this in but:

"Huh, I've never seen that before. I wonder what it is, what the Jew walking by is wearing."

???? Obvious problem aside, how did they ID the person as a Jew?

(Also, at first I thought the person was saying "what the Jew" as an exclamation "what the Jew is that person wearing?!" )

Je55e, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 22:59 (eleven years ago) link

There were two Hasidic Jews walking by and one was wearing a prayer shawl over his shirt.

I also worked with someone who described someone on SNL as "the young Jew." I think she meant Andy Samberg.

tokyo rosemary, Thursday, 2 August 2012 01:20 (eleven years ago) link

Hey at least they didnt call them hymies like my dad once did loudly in the street :/

Pureed Moods (Trayce), Thursday, 2 August 2012 02:35 (eleven years ago) link

If the person in front of me doesn't stop laughing her goofy and extremely loud guffaw I'm going to eviscerate her with my Game of Thrones Needle replica letter opener.

check the name, no caps, boom, i'm (Laurel), Friday, 3 August 2012 15:39 (eleven years ago) link

Actually it's a WHINNY. Yes, you heard me.

check the name, no caps, boom, i'm (Laurel), Friday, 3 August 2012 15:40 (eleven years ago) link

I've got two of the most annoying laughers I've ever heard within 20 feet of me and they both go steadily throughout the day, every single day. So I feel your pain.

cwkiii, Friday, 3 August 2012 15:41 (eleven years ago) link

One is a whinny, the other more of a stuttering cackle.

cwkiii, Friday, 3 August 2012 15:42 (eleven years ago) link

Iow I will STICK HER WITH THE POINTY END.

check the name, no caps, boom, i'm (Laurel), Friday, 3 August 2012 15:43 (eleven years ago) link

Is this person related to the donkey that works with darraghmac, I wonder?

ms. cookie (carl agatha), Friday, 3 August 2012 15:44 (eleven years ago) link

I have a co-worker who laughs like Phyllis Diller. O_o

rods & cones (doo dah), Friday, 3 August 2012 17:02 (eleven years ago) link

i will take people laughing over people yelling any day.

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 3 August 2012 17:19 (eleven years ago) link

Was in the bathroom washing my fork when a coworker came in and started raging about the hand dryers and how all they did was use HOT AIR to BLOW GERMS around the bathroom because heat creates germs, right? "Right..." I said because I didn't want to get into an argument with an angry coworker when all I was armed with was a fork. She waved her hand at the floor, which was dirty with gray spots that I think are from a combo of regular floor dirty and water that spatters from peoples' hands as they traverse the bathroom to use the hand dryers*, and said, "You can see all the bacteria and spores all over the floor because the hot hair just blows the germs right down there!" I just took my fork and went back to my desk.

Earlier today she complimented me on the blouse I am wearing by saying, "That is a nice blouse. It reads well. I can really tell." Tell what? TELL WHAT????

ms. cookie (carl agatha), Monday, 6 August 2012 21:20 (eleven years ago) link

*The worst thing about the hand dryers, IMO, is that they put them across the room from the sinks instead of to the right or left where there is space so the floor in the bathroom is always wet.

ms. cookie (carl agatha), Monday, 6 August 2012 21:22 (eleven years ago) link

co-worker referred to above said something bitchy aloud about a project i wrote. this dude's riding my back, made more annoying by the fact that he sits behind me. done everything to be nice and respectful. what should i do here? have it out with him? talk to my boss? guy's getting on my nerves, and he's trying to be the gunner of the office, which only makes it more annoying.

Spectrum, Tuesday, 7 August 2012 21:15 (eleven years ago) link

Manager(s), I am so fucking sorry for making any effort whatsoever to go above my most basic duties as a stock person at your horribly fucking run and inventory systemless (!!!) store. I very foolishly thought that alerting you to forgotten products on our backstock shelves or errors in our system would somehow be beneficial in selling more shit and completely failed to realize how much more inconvenient it would make your jobs. I was under the impression that suggesting and implementing more efficient + thorough methods of completing departmental tasks would somehow benefit anything or anyone at all ever and totally dropped the ball by not recognizing that you prefer unnecessary work that makes us look busy to actually-quantifiable increases in sales and productivity. Please just do us both a favor and fire me or stab me in the fucking face.

the mandy moorhols (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 7 August 2012 22:27 (eleven years ago) link

I'm going to hope for choice A because it would 1) leave you free for DC housesitting and 2) spare your awesome face!

quincie, Tuesday, 7 August 2012 22:46 (eleven years ago) link

never having seen your face, i'm indifferent.

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 8 August 2012 00:04 (eleven years ago) link

If you get stabbed in the face for a work related reason and didn't instigate the fight and live in IL you can get workers' comp benefits.

ms. cookie (carl agatha), Wednesday, 8 August 2012 01:39 (eleven years ago) link

I hope neither tbh but Jesus some of these managers really suck at like being good at their jobs

the mandy moorhols (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 8 August 2012 01:50 (eleven years ago) link

- Guy who insists on slamming the phone down every time he speaks to his ex-wife (which, to be fair to the guy, is a lot, she phones him every five minutes and drives him mental). She can't hear the slam!

- Guy across the room who commentates to himself on his entire day "I'll just send this then I'll go and get some soup" "I'll just check these trains are ok" "I'll call Stevie then take lunch" "I'd better check the weather forecast" "Right, I'll need to stay to six tonight" etc - a constant conversation with himself. He lives alone, I assume he does it for his entire waking life.

maybe it's a Hartlepool scarf? (onimo), Wednesday, 8 August 2012 11:40 (eleven years ago) link

Maybe he's desperately lonely but doesn't know how to strike up a conversation with other people and is hoping somebody will respond. You should. To everything he says.

ms. cookie (carl agatha), Wednesday, 8 August 2012 12:14 (eleven years ago) link

I wouldn't want to encourage him. He does engage with others occasionally, usually to tell them what soups are on the lunch menu and how he rates them.

The same guy has a blue folder marked "PHOTOCOPYING" in which his places his shower gel, shampoo and deodorant when he goes to use the gym showers halfway through the afternoon, while he's getting paid to work.

maybe it's a Hartlepool scarf? (onimo), Wednesday, 8 August 2012 12:42 (eleven years ago) link

He also does an annoying spoken word singing thing, where he takes a David Bowie or Pink Floyd or Beatles song and thinks he's singing it but is actually doing William Shatner with an Edinburgh accent. He picks one song and repeats two lines from it for the entire day.

I think I must have mentioned him upthread somewhere.

maybe it's a Hartlepool scarf? (onimo), Wednesday, 8 August 2012 12:58 (eleven years ago) link

He would fit in so well where I work.

ms. cookie (carl agatha), Wednesday, 8 August 2012 13:34 (eleven years ago) link

how do you put shampoo in a folder

"Pffft" --buddha (silby), Wednesday, 8 August 2012 20:49 (eleven years ago) link

These shitheads aren't my coworkers, but my professional colleagues so I'll put this here:

Was riding in the elevator with a couple of attorneys. One said that when insurance companies cut off his client's benefits, he tells the clients the name of the insurance adjuster and where she works and "they will reinstate his benefits right away." His friend asked him for clarification and he said that his clients will "go to where she works" and wait in the parking lot for her, or sometimes follow her home. He then said something about how "these guys" are really intimidating, gangster types.

He was using female pronouns. I honestly don't know what the gender breakdown of insurance adjusters are. I do know that this guy is intentionally giving personal information about insurance adjuster to his "intimidating, gangster" clients with the intent of letting his clients stalk and harass women into reinstating benefits.

ms. cookie (carl agatha), Wednesday, 8 August 2012 20:56 (eleven years ago) link

The guy he was with just laughed, like "haha good idea." I was dumbfounded. I still am!

ms. cookie (carl agatha), Wednesday, 8 August 2012 20:56 (eleven years ago) link

In less horrible stupid annoying coworker gripes:

Does Jay Cutler's wife having a baby really warrant a delighted, ear-piercing squeal and a shouted conversation over the wall of your cubicle??????

ms. cookie (carl agatha), Wednesday, 8 August 2012 20:57 (eleven years ago) link

For some reason the latter gripe upsets me more. I guess shady attorneys being shady isn't as big of news, however appalling their behavior.

Je55e, Wednesday, 8 August 2012 21:15 (eleven years ago) link

I am so taken aback that I feel I can more than make up for Je55e's share of taken-abackness.

ljubljana, Wednesday, 8 August 2012 21:53 (eleven years ago) link

I'm debating whether I should report him to the body that governs attorney ethics stuff, actually. Because that is just not okay.

ms. cookie (carl agatha), Wednesday, 8 August 2012 22:01 (eleven years ago) link

Boss [writing an email]: Can anyone check I've got the definition of 'punctiliousness' correct?

Me: I think it means adhering stringently to small rules and details - you know, like table manners and stuff...

Boss: Hmmm, no, I think 'punctiliousness' refers to the act of being punctual.

Me: I think you're thinking of 'punctuality'

Quickly, take hold of my hand, asshole! (dog latin), Wednesday, 8 August 2012 22:22 (eleven years ago) link

irony lols

"Pffft" --buddha (silby), Wednesday, 8 August 2012 22:27 (eleven years ago) link

carl - that's insane! if what dude's saying is true, it's only a matter of time before one of these adjusters winds up dead in the parking lot! omg!

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 9 August 2012 02:54 (eleven years ago) link

The same guy has a blue folder marked "PHOTOCOPYING" in which his places his shower gel, shampoo and deodorant when he goes to use the gym showers halfway through the afternoon, while he's getting paid to work.

I love every part of this, wholeheartedly.

Godzilla vs. Rodan Rodannadanna (The Yellow Kid), Thursday, 9 August 2012 05:36 (eleven years ago) link

I'm debating whether I should report him to the body that governs attorney ethics stuff, actually. Because that is just not okay.

Uh yeah that is TOTALLY NOT OKAY and you should say something! Holy shit.

Pureed Moods (Trayce), Thursday, 9 August 2012 08:36 (eleven years ago) link

- Guy who insists on slamming the phone down every time he speaks to his ex-wife (which, to be fair to the guy, is a lot, she phones him every five minutes and drives him mental). She can't hear the slam!

He blocked her number on his work phone. Now he hangs up on her on his mobile which involves no slamming but still lots of shouting. Apparently he has two phones, one regular phone she doesn't have the number for, and another exclusively to allow her to contact him when necessary (i.e. to argue about money and childcare) - their definitions of necessary seem miles apart.

Remind me to never get divorced.

Today's lyric from shower guy is "my kind OF TOWN... CHICAGO is... my kind... of... PEOPLE...(repeat)" - he has gone momentarily quiet in order to eat soup ("Oriental vegetable broth, it's got a nice wee spicy hint of cinnamon").

maybe it's a Hartlepool scarf? (onimo), Thursday, 9 August 2012 11:10 (eleven years ago) link

It's not Steve n's boss is it?

A thread for Steve n.'s list of songs that his boss sings

kmfdotm (ledge), Thursday, 9 August 2012 11:18 (eleven years ago) link

xpost onimo, re: shower guy. that's kind of cute on paper. probably not in real life.

Quickly, take hold of my hand, asshole! (dog latin), Thursday, 9 August 2012 11:24 (eleven years ago) link

that steve n thread is the funniest thing ever.

Quickly, take hold of my hand, asshole! (dog latin), Thursday, 9 August 2012 11:24 (eleven years ago) link

he's a nice guy, just a little strange and has his own way of doing things, and those things rarely involve doing any work

xpost

maybe it's a Hartlepool scarf? (onimo), Thursday, 9 August 2012 11:28 (eleven years ago) link

that steve n post is originally from somewhere away way way up the top of this thread!

maybe it's a Hartlepool scarf? (onimo), Thursday, 9 August 2012 11:31 (eleven years ago) link

Our version of this guy this morning is endlessly looping "when you were young ba DA you reached for the sun doo DOO doo doo shine on you craaaaaaZEE diamond..." - note incorrect lyrics - this all "sung" in a passable William Shatner recital with an Edinburgh accent.

― the innermost wee guy (oimo), Friday, 1 May 2009 10:57 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I knew I'd mentioned him :)

maybe it's a Hartlepool scarf? (onimo), Thursday, 9 August 2012 11:34 (eleven years ago) link

We have the girl who sings "Tell me lies/Tell me secrets and lies". We've told her those are the wrong words, but she doesn't listen.

Quickly, take hold of my hand, asshole! (dog latin), Thursday, 9 August 2012 11:42 (eleven years ago) link

Y'all work in Office Space. I mean - people talking to themselves and singing or whistling out loud all day? Would be nerve wracking in a traditional office setting.

Talking about elections with a co-worker the other day, co-worker was surprised I had an opinion : "I didn't know you were an American. I thought your family was foreign."! Yes, this is a US workplace.

I don't know how big the sample size is or what, but I thought the results of this one question quiz on a website might be of interest to you people:

Does the sound of other people chewing fill you with rage?

Not sure 5%
No 73%
Yes 21%

I find it hard to believe that nearly a quarter of the population doesn't want to murder people who make chewing noises because my reaction to such noises are so IMMEDIATE and STRONG.

ms. cookie (carl agatha), Thursday, 9 August 2012 20:28 (eleven years ago) link

More than 3 quarters, you mean.

nickn, Thursday, 9 August 2012 21:21 (eleven years ago) link

Math. Who needs it?

ms. cookie (carl agatha), Thursday, 9 August 2012 21:27 (eleven years ago) link

I have come to the conclusion that in any office I will hate one person for their noises (and yes, I realise they may well think something similar about mine, especially since I admit I have a habit of eating junk like crisps at weird times of day, so they are probably thinking "that fat bitch is eating noisy, unhealthy foods AGAIN, goddamn, just wait until lunchtime and eat a salad").

This realisation was inspired by my current noisiest, most annoying coworker being on holiday and me getting wound up by the eating and typing noises and desk-drumming of my other officemate, who I like and am not normally annoyed by, even when he does the same things but my more usual annoyance-target is in.

Anyway, I probably hate chewing noises because I hate all mouthy/breathy/squelchy noises but I can't actually remember being annoyed by them, unlike sniffing, tea-slurping, fork-biting, and this one dude who constantly had a pen lid in his mouth and squelched it back and forth all day. How I cursed the manufacturer for putting in the little holes so you can't choke to death on a pen lid any more. (Kidding... or am I? After 8 months of sitting a foot behind that guy I didn't even know any more.)

still small voice of clam (a passing spacecadet), Thursday, 9 August 2012 22:18 (eleven years ago) link

Telecommuting has never been more appealing

The Cheerfull Turtle (Latham Green), Friday, 10 August 2012 00:18 (eleven years ago) link

Chewing doesnt bother me but I fear that means that maybe *i* am the loud chewer in our office...

rayuela, Friday, 10 August 2012 02:21 (eleven years ago) link

All I ask is that if someone is sitting right next to/behind me at their own desk, they not eat at their desk. I am going to throw a chair one day if I have to hear my boss's rice cracker crunch or cereal bowl slurp one more time... (I know ive gone on about this here at length. Or on the IA thread maybe. I know its a neurosis of mine)

Pureed Moods (Trayce), Friday, 10 August 2012 03:04 (eleven years ago) link

my older sister used to throw fits at the dinner table over how disgusting she found everyone's eating sounds. that was during her difficult teenage years, tho. my dad really does make kind of gross/loud chewing noises and i think this is partly the source of my self-consciousness abt eating

1staethyr, Friday, 10 August 2012 03:15 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah it might be where I got it from too, parents who ate like noisy old geriatrics, possibly partly due to having loads of false teeth I think. Ugh.

Pureed Moods (Trayce), Friday, 10 August 2012 03:32 (eleven years ago) link

this is all you guys, at werk:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLA4b0TVbNw

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 10 August 2012 19:59 (eleven years ago) link

I crush things loud at my desk becuase of my new teeth - they razors

Sweet Yin Yang ☯ (Latham Green), Friday, 10 August 2012 20:12 (eleven years ago) link

ctrl+f the convo we had about bathroom germophobes

She forgot her pass today so is asking to borrow mine every time she needs to be which is often. That's all fine and obv I don't mind lending it to her but I'm sick so she is making this grand dramatic gesture of picking it up with a tissue and pinching it between two fingers/holding it away from her ever time. JUST FUCKING BORROW SOMEONE ELSE'S.

(✿◠‿◠) (ENBB), Monday, 13 August 2012 17:03 (eleven years ago) link

That is super rude. I would not be able to let that pass.

ms. cookie (carl agatha), Monday, 13 August 2012 17:19 (eleven years ago) link

If she does it again I'm going to say "Seriously, Melissa?!" (That's her favorite phrase - another really annoying thing she does) "Just borrow someone elses ffs!" Cause really now.

(✿◠‿◠) (ENBB), Monday, 13 August 2012 17:21 (eleven years ago) link

Her pass?

pplains, Monday, 13 August 2012 17:47 (eleven years ago) link

Her slidey thing that opens the doors.

(✿◠‿◠) (ENBB), Monday, 13 August 2012 17:57 (eleven years ago) link

Between bathrooms you need a pass for and houses tented for fumigation, I wonder sometimes if I live in the same America as the rest of you.

pplains, Monday, 13 August 2012 18:05 (eleven years ago) link

lol

Well, ee have secured doors on our floor but the bathrooms are out in the hallway so we can get out and in them no prob but you need to have the pass with you so you can get back in our area if that makes sense.

(✿◠‿◠) (ENBB), Monday, 13 August 2012 18:11 (eleven years ago) link

That makes sense.

We have restrooms within the confines of our office, but if it's full, there's one outside in the public hallway.

Summertime's great because I always have my key in my pocket. Winter sucks because my keys are in my coat pocket and I have to walk back to my desk.

pplains, Monday, 13 August 2012 18:13 (eleven years ago) link

I think I would have to have a bit of fun with her. "Oh, I'm that filthy, am I?"

Romney's Kitchen Nightmares (WmC), Monday, 13 August 2012 18:15 (eleven years ago) link

I should have pulled an Elaine and rubbed the pass all over me when I saw her coming for it.

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m4pn2lsow11rntezlo1_400.gif

(✿◠‿◠) (ENBB), Monday, 13 August 2012 18:28 (eleven years ago) link

please do this I will pay you some money

ms. cookie (carl agatha), Monday, 13 August 2012 19:26 (eleven years ago) link

That sounded really creepy. I do not have a butt rubbing fetish. I just want you to tell this woman what's what.

ms. cookie (carl agatha), Monday, 13 August 2012 19:26 (eleven years ago) link

I just had lunch with my old boss who quit her job and bought a cabin in the woods in rural Michigan and was telling me about all of the Larry David moments she having as she tries to acclimate to small town life. It was pretty funny. I'm putting this here because she used to be a stupid annoying coworker and now that she left, she is a delight to have lunch with once every couple of months.

ms. cookie (carl agatha), Monday, 13 August 2012 19:41 (eleven years ago) link

how is her chewing these days?

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 13 August 2012 19:46 (eleven years ago) link

Carl I left early but if she keeps it up tomorrow I just may.

(✿◠‿◠) (ENBB), Monday, 13 August 2012 19:48 (eleven years ago) link

holding up okay?

the late great, Monday, 13 August 2012 19:49 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah, def on the mend, thanks. I just couldn't stay the whole day. I think I'll feel a lot better tomorrow.

(✿◠‿◠) (ENBB), Monday, 13 August 2012 19:57 (eleven years ago) link

Next time she asks for your pass, pull it out of your underwear.

tokyo rosemary, Monday, 13 August 2012 23:58 (eleven years ago) link

Oh! Wait, I just realises she's doing the offensive "ew germs" thing because you're *ill*, of course. I was thinking she was just being neortic and rude generally, a la the whapping you in the toilets for not covering yr hand debacle.

Pureed Moods (Trayce), Tuesday, 14 August 2012 00:17 (eleven years ago) link

NEUrotic.

Pureed Moods (Trayce), Tuesday, 14 August 2012 00:18 (eleven years ago) link

Well, yeah. I mean that's why she was doing it but there are 5 other ppl she could easily ask for their swipey cards. If it bugs her so much that I'm not feeling well then go ask one of them instead of making a big show of it.

(✿◠‿◠) (ENBB), Tuesday, 14 August 2012 00:25 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah exactly, its pretty wtf (and rude of her)

Pureed Moods (Trayce), Tuesday, 14 August 2012 00:47 (eleven years ago) link

Even if they are roiling kettles of mental turmoil on the inside, because aren't we all, I feel like high level HR people should at least project a sense of emotional stability in the workplace.

ms. cookie (carl agatha), Thursday, 16 August 2012 22:37 (eleven years ago) link

"I have an open door policy! Please come in with any issues you have, so that I can tell you about how one of your coworkers called me fat and hurt my feelings."

ms. cookie (carl agatha), Thursday, 16 August 2012 22:38 (eleven years ago) link

I guess it's my turn to dominate this thread. As though it hasn't been my turn since I found it...

ANYWAY. My first name is Jennifer. There is one other attorney in my department whose first name is Jenifer. Our last names are wildly different. We are both white ladies who wear glasses but our style, demeanor, height, build, hair color, eye color, outlook on the world, reading habits, lunch preferences, work style, work friendships, and homelives are nothing alike. For some reason, people constantly confuse us. We have received confidential HR communications for the other Jen(n)ifer. IT has come to my desk to fix her computer (even though IT tickets have our room numbers on them, and our cubicles have our full names posted on them). Yesterday in the elevator, another judge-level coworker struck up a conversation with me about how long I've worked here (he was acting like it was a long time, so I guess this should have been my first clue) and then said, "You're in (judge that Jenifer works for)'s office, right?" No, you bozo! I'm in the office where you just were two days ago asking about a case!!! I ANSWERED YOUR QUESTION. Just now, a coworker who was standing right in front of me discussing an email that I sent to her said, "What the hell was Jenifer doing sending an email about this?" I threw a pencil at her and said, "I sent you the email! That's why I'm standing here talking to you about it!" She said she wondered how I knew so much about the situation.

It's like nobody has ever worked somewhere with two people who have the same first name. Or maybe they used lead paint on this floor.

ms. cookie (carl agatha), Friday, 17 August 2012 20:18 (eleven years ago) link

I started to make a long list of the many specific differences between me and this lady but it sounded like straight bragging so just suffice it to say that she's about ten years older than me and a very Catholic mother of three who lives in the suburbs, and embodies all of those qualities in all of the presentation choices that she makes.

ms. cookie (carl agatha), Friday, 17 August 2012 20:34 (eleven years ago) link

I'm eating a fish curry with coconut milk, which I microwaved in our kitchen and am now eating at my desk. Yeah, I'm that person today.

check the name, no caps, boom, i'm (Laurel), Monday, 20 August 2012 17:50 (eleven years ago) link

i have to fill out this stupid employee survey. and after that we have an all day employee retreat. don't make me go!

rayuela, Monday, 20 August 2012 18:24 (eleven years ago) link

MS Exchange Online (cloud email) went down today, so nobody could use email for a little while. It came back up quickly, but when I told the associate atty, he said (whined) that it still wasn't working for him, even though it was working for every other person in our two buildings.

I asked him test it and make sure, and he reported, "Nope. Still down, just like it always is" (it's not). So I stepped into his office and sent him an email from my iPhone, and his computer and iPhone said "Boing!" when he received it. He said, "Well, it's working now, but it wasn't a second ago." He couldn't grasp that he had simply not received any emails in the 20 minutes between the outage and my message.

Then my boss called in a panicked that he would miss a critical client email he was expecting. He too had gotten seen an error message and then received no emails in the following 20 minutes, but didn't bother to send a test email.

(*・_・)ノ⌒ ☆ (Je55e), Monday, 20 August 2012 22:12 (eleven years ago) link

I could not work with people that belligerent and hold my tounge, and I'd probably get fired for it haha. There's a reason why IT staff are so surly, and those guys are that fucking reason!!

Pureed Moods (Trayce), Monday, 20 August 2012 22:53 (eleven years ago) link

Its like that scene in the IT Crowd when Roy fixes the girl who hates him's PC by... plugging it into the powerpoint. And she comes back, sees it is now "working" and sarcastically goes "FINALLY" (which wasnt even the joke but it always made me go "nrrrghhh you bitch" )

Pureed Moods (Trayce), Monday, 20 August 2012 22:54 (eleven years ago) link

The associate is the big PITA, with the nasal whining and catastrophizing. He's not really *belligerent*, just whiner. If he would just deepen his voice complain from his diaphragm!

(*・_・)ノ⌒ ☆ (Je55e), Tuesday, 21 August 2012 02:12 (eleven years ago) link

I am surrounded by sick assholes who think they are too important to stay home. I want a bubble to walk around in. :(

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Tuesday, 21 August 2012 13:06 (eleven years ago) link

He couldn't grasp that he had simply not received any emails in the 20 minutes between the outage and my message.

hahahaha, I love this.

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Tuesday, 21 August 2012 13:07 (eleven years ago) link

Is there any way to disable a phone's speakerphone function? My annoying coworker has always shouted into her speakerphone, but a switch flipped in me this week and I really want to kill her over this now.

kate78, Tuesday, 21 August 2012 18:29 (eleven years ago) link

I don't know if you can disable the speakerphone, but I bet it would be pretty easy to disable the speakerphone button.

pplains, Tuesday, 21 August 2012 18:37 (eleven years ago) link

I share a small office with my boss, which is attached to a slightly larger office. He is a violent Enter key striker, speakerphone offender, jargonistic abuser, and among other things, has a habit of sigh-exhaling in short whistle-shaped bursts. I've lost count of the number of times he's said "irregardless", and he plays in a 'muso' cover band (he previously referred to one of his blues-roots bands as being "like Jack Johnson before Jack Johnson"), a video of which he has played several times in the office, reliving the glory days when they took to the big stage covering 'Dark S1de of the Moon'. He's tried to impress me by kicking back in his chair while playing 'Dub Side of the Moon', and I've heard him listening to fretless bass fusion solos on his earphones. It's impossible not to cringe when he tries to relate about music (often), as we have almost nothing in common, and I've heard him enthusiastically discuss the merits of Nickelback with two colleagues (one of whom easily meets the criteria for being a stupid, annoying co-worker, and is the proud owner of every single Nickelback album - apparently there are 9? I've taken to emailing some of her declarations to my gmail e.g. "I like rock and metal - if it doesn’t feel like it’s going to break the foundations of the house with the bass, it’s not music I want to listen to"). He's fond of using terms like "going forward", "pro-active", "buy-in" and "heads-up". Him and another colleague (also a Nickelback fan) think that the Joey from Friends catchphrase "how you doin'?" is the height of hilarity, and will splice it into conversation for my benefit whenever possible. It's bleak.

Yam, Wednesday, 22 August 2012 00:14 (eleven years ago) link

kate, would you really sabotage her phone? I approve, honestly. Maybe start by very carefully putting a dab of super glue under speakerphone button or on the mic. The idea is to disable the speakerphone, but not so badly that the company will have to replace it.

Yam, it sounds bleak.

(*・_・)ノ⌒ ☆ (Je55e), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 00:47 (eleven years ago) link

could just sabotage the speaker part... yank the wires out from behind it. all you need to do is work late and bring a screwdriver!

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 01:03 (eleven years ago) link

I've considered the superglue trick. I think I'll wait til she leaves town for a few days.

kate78, Wednesday, 22 August 2012 03:54 (eleven years ago) link

How about just saying "yo, you always use speakerphone in an open office and it is extremely distracting and disturbing others, can you keep it down?"

frances boredom coconut (Trayce), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 04:04 (eleven years ago) link

my boss and i share an office, suddenly. i've never found it too hot or too cold. she says she's been sick since moving to the office, a week ago. she messed around with the thermostat a lot. there are two icons on the thermostat: a flame and a snowflake. one day, she called me over and asked what they meant. i explained that the snowflake means cold air and the flame means hot air. she disagreed and explained that the reason it was so hot in there must be because i had it backwards-- the snowflake is what you choose when it's winter (it snows in winter), and the flame is what you choose in summer. after a few days with the a/c off, she compromised and decided both the flame and the snowflake should be selected.

eventually, she called a heating company and had them come to look at our cooling system. the technician confided in me that nothing was wrong but said he was going to install a new thermostat. we have a new touchscreen thermostat. the instant the new thermostat was on the wall, she exclaimed: "feels cooler in here already!"

:(

dylannn, Wednesday, 22 August 2012 04:14 (eleven years ago) link

Hahaha holy fuck.

frances boredom coconut (Trayce), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 04:37 (eleven years ago) link

it's a nightmare.

she's been with the company for a long period of time and somehow stumbled into her position at an opportune time, i guess. although i've heard she was once competent and a colleague that worked with her for a while wondered aloud if she'd possibly had a stroke. she ran her department at a massive loss for a year or so before somebody noticed and she was transferred to work with me instead of being fired.

shortly after taking up residence in the office with me, she accidentally cc'd everyone in the company in on an email vowing to fire everyone on our team and hiring all new staff. there was some resentment. after that, she often lamented, "nobody here seems to like me."

i assured her that it's simply because she's a new face and the team will start firing on all cylinders soon.

dylannn, Wednesday, 22 August 2012 05:09 (eleven years ago) link

I work in a residential facility for people with mental illness. The clients' money all comes from Social Security, and when someone new arrives we generally take them to the SS office soon afterwards, so that they can arrange to have checks sent to the main office, which takes for rent money all but a $60 monthly stipend (we provide meals, case management, etc). Recently a co-worker, who was quite nice, intelligent, reasonable, but totally shameless about not really doing much work and calling out all the time, left for another job after working here for 7 or 8 months. I inherited one of her clients, and discovered that my former co-worker had never bothered to take her to the SS office when she arrived in December, a process which takes a couple hours at most. Due to this, her benefits had been terminated, she has to re-apply, and her benefits cannot be made retroactive. So my client is out maybe $400 that were rightfully hers (and has had NO SPENDING MONEY AT ALL since December, and the company I work for is out maybe $4000.

JoeStork, Wednesday, 22 August 2012 05:19 (eleven years ago) link

How about just saying "yo, you always use speakerphone in an open office and it is extremely distracting and disturbing others, can you keep it down?"

― frances boredom coconut (Trayce), Wednesday, August 22, 2012 1:34 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

It's not even an open office! She's in the office next to mine. Other coworkers further away have already bitched to her and mgmt and yet it continues...

kate78, Wednesday, 22 August 2012 05:23 (eleven years ago) link

Joe, that's terrible. I hope that person's mess catches up with them.

i explained that the snowflake means cold air and the flame means hot air. she disagreed and explained that the reason it was so hot in there must be because i had it backwards-- the snowflake is what you choose when it's winter (it snows in winter), and the flame is what you choose in summer.

Amazing.

But couldn't she figure it out by the temp of the air coming out of the vents?

(*・_・)ノ⌒ ☆ (Je55e), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 06:44 (eleven years ago) link

she ran her department at a massive loss for a year or so before somebody noticed and she was transferred to work with me instead of being fired.

smdh

ms. cookie (carl agatha), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 12:23 (eleven years ago) link

xpost Yikes JoeStork isn't there some sort of vulnerable adults law that violates?

alternative riff (CharlieS), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 13:17 (eleven years ago) link

I'm hoping to get two people fired soon..two spoiled girls from my alma mater and that is the only reason they got the job. Becase Ikm sick of rude comments and inquiries about my family.

Gavin McLayoff (u s steel), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 18:37 (eleven years ago) link

It was like "let's get so and so for you, I know she's your friend from college.". And Ikm like she's a nasty class bigot and phony and my dad is not her business."

Gavin McLayoff (u s steel), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 18:50 (eleven years ago) link

T/F: it is appropriate to mention how much your son's circumcision cost during a staff meeting.

cwkiii, Friday, 24 August 2012 20:45 (eleven years ago) link

"staff" meeting.

pplains, Friday, 24 August 2012 21:12 (eleven years ago) link

staff "meat"ing

the mandy moorhols (Stevie D(eux)), Saturday, 25 August 2012 03:07 (eleven years ago) link

how much does a circumcision cost?

how did we get here how? (ytth), Saturday, 25 August 2012 03:45 (eleven years ago) link

And what do you leave for a tip?

pplains, Saturday, 25 August 2012 04:39 (eleven years ago) link

Why do people feel the need to heavily re-apply deodorant, at their desks, at least twice a day? You really really dont smell, but that stuff you are spraying stinks like shit. It smells like a cheap men's cologne! Why would a woman put on such a horrible smell? GAH STOP IT.

frances boredom coconut (Trayce), Monday, 27 August 2012 00:03 (eleven years ago) link

I mean it makes me feel genuinely sick.

frances boredom coconut (Trayce), Monday, 27 August 2012 00:04 (eleven years ago) link

Was thinking about coming to post here about that very thing. One of my co-workers (a woman) keeps a can at the ready and sprays liberally around other co-workers. They've never complained, but it's just a no-no afaic. If you must, deodorise in the damn bathroom!

Yam, Monday, 27 August 2012 01:49 (eleven years ago) link

T/F: it is appropriate to mention how much your son's circumcision cost during a staff meeting.

I heard this in NPR this morning and thought of cwkiii's coworker.

The federal Centers for Disease Control and Convention has estimated circumcision costs range from about $200 to $600 nationwide. Coverage varies among insurers and several states have stopped Medicaid funding for circumcisions.

(*・_・)ノ⌒ ☆ (Je55e), Monday, 27 August 2012 13:33 (eleven years ago) link

This kid's was only $100!

cwkiii, Monday, 27 August 2012 13:36 (eleven years ago) link

I need to let this woman know she got a steal of a deal.

cwkiii, Monday, 27 August 2012 13:37 (eleven years ago) link

That's incredibly cheap! Hers and the whole range. My ENT billed almost $600 to shove a scope up my N and tell me I have a deviated septum but no polyps. I guess if you're looking for bargains in elective surgery, it's hard to beat circumcision.

(*・_・)ノ⌒ ☆ (Je55e), Monday, 27 August 2012 13:40 (eleven years ago) link

it'll be a great ice breaker for the next meeting!
"Hey Deb, regarding last week's conversation about your son's circumcision, you got a HELL of a deal for $100, let me tell you, I never"

Thanks WEBSITE!! (Z S), Monday, 27 August 2012 13:47 (eleven years ago) link

Something tells me that if you have to have that done as an adult it costs a few bucks more

your native bacon (mh), Monday, 27 August 2012 13:57 (eleven years ago) link

Bargains in Elective Surgery sounds like a Brian Eno album or something.

carl agatha, Monday, 27 August 2012 13:58 (eleven years ago) link

Man, do people even circumcise kids unless they're really 'merican or have a religious obligation?

your native bacon (mh), Monday, 27 August 2012 14:01 (eleven years ago) link

I am sure there's a long, aggrieved thread about it on ILX somewhere if you really wanted to do a little market research on the topic.

carl agatha, Monday, 27 August 2012 14:19 (eleven years ago) link

I decline any further conversation on this contentious subject

your native bacon (mh), Monday, 27 August 2012 14:20 (eleven years ago) link

It's weird, but all my newsfeeds this morning are absolutely ate up with stories about circumcision.

pplains, Monday, 27 August 2012 14:27 (eleven years ago) link

The Great Circumcision Zeitgeist of 2012

cwkiii, Monday, 27 August 2012 14:33 (eleven years ago) link

It's weird, but all my newsfeeds this morning are absolutely ate up with stories about circumcision.

I love this Southernism!

mh, I'd bet that most Americans still view circumcision as the default option. When my nephew was born, circumcision wasn't presented as a choice - my SIL was given a consent form and told it was time to circumcise him and that was that, no more of a thing than if it they were asking for consent to wash his hair.

(*・_・)ノ⌒ ☆ (Je55e), Monday, 27 August 2012 18:40 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah, I think that's been the norm in most areas of the States for the last good couple decades. The only uncircumsized guys I know are not American.

(✿◠‿◠) (ENBB), Monday, 27 August 2012 18:52 (eleven years ago) link

You'd be surprised how often this conversation comes up. Or maybe not.

(✿◠‿◠) (ENBB), Monday, 27 August 2012 18:52 (eleven years ago) link

I know a few (was gonna say "handful") of uncut white Americans, but they're all from the U.P., and so heavily influenced by Euro forces.

(*・_・)ノ⌒ ☆ (Je55e), Monday, 27 August 2012 18:55 (eleven years ago) link

the U.P.?

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 27 August 2012 19:14 (eleven years ago) link

I guess the news mentions are due to a new pediatrician association recommendation on the pro side. However: A recent analysis from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention found the U.S. circumcision rate fell from about 63 percent of newborn boys in 1999 to 55 percent in 2010.

your native bacon (mh), Monday, 27 August 2012 19:15 (eleven years ago) link

the uncircumcised penis zone, the U.P.

your native bacon (mh), Monday, 27 August 2012 19:15 (eleven years ago) link

U.P. stands for Upper Peninsula, and now that I think about it, I think Je55e was making a very elaborate word joke.

pplains, Monday, 27 August 2012 19:21 (eleven years ago) link

And I'm the one with the folksy colloquialisms...

pplains, Monday, 27 August 2012 19:24 (eleven years ago) link

I wasn't making a joke of any kind. A number of the men I know from the U.P. (of Michigan) are uncircumcised, and most of the men who I know who are uncircumcised are from the U.P.

mh is right - that was the story I heard on the radio this morning that made me think of ccwkii's coworker.

(*・_・)ノ⌒ ☆ (Je55e), Monday, 27 August 2012 21:02 (eleven years ago) link

Not really my coworker, but sort of work-related: I've been looking at emails from a colleague's banker, who writes like this:

Thank you…………..they should not ask us for else t…..we s/b fine with what I have turned in already!!! :)

and

Thank you so much for these [colleague's name]………………I just received the email the paperwork……………so it is truly DONE!!! I am sorry for these last items they requested…..it is a cumbersome & illogical process these days……I appreciate your patience & hanging in there!!!

Thank you for your business & please let me know if any questions come up!!!

What professional writes like this?? :D Besides the rampant typos and grammar problems and excessive abbreviations, why the ellipses? Did.....I already post about this!?

(*・_・)ノ⌒ ☆ (Je55e), Monday, 27 August 2012 21:12 (eleven years ago) link

A bunch of people, unfortunately.

your native bacon (mh), Monday, 27 August 2012 21:13 (eleven years ago) link

Maybe I should have left out the second 'n' of "peninsula" when I made my "joke".

pplains, Tuesday, 28 August 2012 00:51 (eleven years ago) link

I've been noticing similar oddities from a workmate in his tickets recently (I work at an ISP). Stuff like this:

"B___called saying her internet TV works perfectly some days but no theres."

And: "She is look up trail an ADSL2, can someone please call her"

They really just look like brainfarts (I think he meant "not others" and "looking to trial an ADSL2", but it looks like he does them a LOT, and they are really heavy burtation!

frances boredom coconut (Trayce), Tuesday, 28 August 2012 01:12 (eleven years ago) link

Je55e, that is nothing. I used to work as an assistant to an executive assistant, who handled all correspondence with banks. A bank that shall remain unnamed had one employee who closing his e-mail with a daily "toilet joke". Usually they were pretty crass and gross!

When I came on board I had to review some of that correspondence and was horrified. It's not that it was a bad bank or something and we had been doing business with them for a long time...so we couldn't cancel all business on account of one employee. I wonder if they were just disgruntled. However, by the time I saw these e-mails it had been going on for months!

Makes you fear for capitalism that some people feel free to do this!

I am sure they were fired but how they got away with it for that long is beyond me.

Hey guess what guys? There's blood all over the floor in the bathroom.

carl agatha, Tuesday, 28 August 2012 18:29 (eleven years ago) link

That reminds me of one of my favorite tweets ever tweeted: https://es.twitter.com/regisl/status/160391002677456897

carl agatha, Tuesday, 28 August 2012 18:30 (eleven years ago) link

????

Someone took a shit in the middle of the bathroom floor in the office I worked at in London but there was never any blood. THANK GOD.

(✿◠‿◠) (ENBB), Tuesday, 28 August 2012 18:30 (eleven years ago) link

It looks like somebody was removing a tampon and missed the toilet or possibly just stood there with her skirts hiked up and bled on the floor for awhile or also possible tried to commit suicide, I don't know. It's not enough to make me think somebody needs medical attention, but it's enough to make me avoid that stall until they clean the floors.

carl agatha, Tuesday, 28 August 2012 18:34 (eleven years ago) link

WTF.

xp

that was a response to Mount Cleaners, but it applies to car and ENBB, too.

(*・_・)ノ⌒ ☆ (Je55e), Tuesday, 28 August 2012 18:50 (eleven years ago) link

God, that really really is one of the finest Tweets ever Tweeted. lolol

(*・_・)ノ⌒ ☆ (Je55e), Tuesday, 28 August 2012 18:51 (eleven years ago) link

i wish it were appropriate to yell, 'get your head outta your ass!' on conf calls. this woman hates me because she doesn't follow up on any of the shit she says she will do so i have to harass her about it, and so anytime i ask a question about why this or that went wrong, she responds like i'm an idiot, and i have to be like no, you misunderstood my question. and then she'll answer appropriately.

rayuela, Tuesday, 28 August 2012 21:12 (eleven years ago) link

The otherday I asked a workmate how she was finding some missing fields in some of our order entries, by which I'd meant "because I dont have an easy way to bulk search for this" and she replied with "by doing my job" :|

Bitch.

frances boredom coconut (Trayce), Tuesday, 28 August 2012 22:02 (eleven years ago) link

A couple of years ago i walked into one of the toilets in the building i worked in and there was blood everywhere. On the floor, on three of the cubicle doors, splashed all over the mirror, in all the sinks, etc. Just a ridiculous amount that it's difficult to imagine would have come from a nosebleed. It looked like a crime scene. Checked back twenty minutes later and it was absolutely spotless.

Health and safety protocols mean that any accidents have to be written up and posted on the internal message boards but there was never a word said about it.

Temporarily Famous In The Czech Republic (ShariVari), Tuesday, 28 August 2012 22:16 (eleven years ago) link

you'd be surprised how much blood can come from a nosebleed. on several occasions i have sneezed and bled like a water faucet. and it did resemble a crime scene more than once!

Thanks WEBSITE!! (Z S), Tuesday, 28 August 2012 22:38 (eleven years ago) link

did you then proceed to run in and out of as many stalls as possible in a random office bathroom while violently shaking your head back and forth?

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 28 August 2012 23:54 (eleven years ago) link

she replied with "by doing my job" :|

Bitch.
--frances boredom coconut (Trayce)

That would drive me up the wall! There's no need for that kind of attitude when you're trying to figure out how to do the job more efficiently

rayuela, Wednesday, 29 August 2012 01:15 (eleven years ago) link

not being a bitch is part of her job too.

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 29 August 2012 01:16 (eleven years ago) link

or it should be.

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 29 August 2012 01:17 (eleven years ago) link

"by doing my job"

omg kill kill kill

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Wednesday, 29 August 2012 01:28 (eleven years ago) link

I just broke up a fight* in my god damn office between a supervisor from another department and one of her employees. Why did they come into our office to fight? What the fuck is a supervisor doing getting into a public yelling match with an employee???

*Verbal, thank god (there is a history of physical fights here, but this was more civilized), so it was just me saying "Hey. Hey! HEY! STOP YELLING IN THIS OFFICE! TAKE IT OUTSIDE NOW."

carl agatha, Wednesday, 29 August 2012 15:19 (eleven years ago) link

Hand to God, I wrote an email today that featured the sentence, "The question mark is in there because the sentence is a question."

pplains, Wednesday, 29 August 2012 19:22 (eleven years ago) link

god, why is it up to me to try to impose some order on this process of [REDACTED]? everyone else involved is higher ranking than i am, and yet it's me who finally got fed up and started creating agendas and forcing them on everyone, and taking notes and blah blah. i can't stand this disorganization, but when you promote the person next to me who has the same job description but TAKES NO INITIATIVE and makes absolutely no effort to facilitate a smoother working environment, i think you are actively trying to get me to hate you.

rayuela, Thursday, 30 August 2012 19:00 (eleven years ago) link

yes, please paste the contents of the word document into an email and make comments and changes there so i can't see it. it's so much better than using track changes. i do enjoy spending my time comparing line by line changes to make sure i get everything

rayuela, Thursday, 30 August 2012 19:23 (eleven years ago) link

i must be in a bad mood today!

rayuela, Thursday, 30 August 2012 19:23 (eleven years ago) link

It's going around.

My coworker buys tuberoses and eucalyptus from the farmers' market every Thursday which means every Thursday afternoon between May and October is Headache Day for me. She offered to move the flowers "farther away" from me, but given that you can smell them all the way down the hall, I don't think moving them two feet away from my desk is going to matter much.

carl agatha, Thursday, 30 August 2012 19:49 (eleven years ago) link

It smells nice from a distance but when I'm sitting in an enclosed space with them, it's like being punched in the face by the candle aisle of a craft store.

carl agatha, Thursday, 30 August 2012 19:50 (eleven years ago) link

Rayuela: can you cut and paste back into a Word document and then compare the two? (ie http://www.codejacked.com/comparing-two-versions-of-a-word-document/)

Sorry if this is no good/too late to be useful/something you already know about!

computers are the new "cool tool" (James Morrison), Friday, 31 August 2012 00:57 (eleven years ago) link

Hand to God, I wrote an email today that featured the sentence, "The question mark is in there because the sentence is a question."

Oh god thats hilarious. I had a similar wtf yesterday: "why is this customers username and password the same thing?". Considering they pick their own, HOW WOULD I KNOW. Customer is stupid?

frances boredom coconut (Trayce), Friday, 31 August 2012 01:23 (eleven years ago) link

Hot tuna is not a suitable office lunch food, especially when eaten at your desk in a small office

computers are the new "cool tool" (James Morrison), Friday, 31 August 2012 02:40 (eleven years ago) link

Oh my no.

carl agatha, Friday, 31 August 2012 02:43 (eleven years ago) link

A creamy tuna/mushroom pasta sauce is the only thing I've made in the last 10 years that literally made my wife scream when she smelled it.

Bobby-fil-A (WmC), Friday, 31 August 2012 03:09 (eleven years ago) link

My boss abbreviates "follow-up" as "f/u." So today I got "Thanks for the excellent f/u!"

Yeah, fuck you too.

Choogle Image Search (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 31 August 2012 03:17 (eleven years ago) link

It's unfortunate that it abbreviates badly b/c otherwise I'd use it all the time. And I do in notes to myself.

(*・_・)ノ⌒ ☆ (Je55e), Friday, 31 August 2012 03:48 (eleven years ago) link

LOL one of the acronymns in fibreoptic rollouts is FAP which was making me giggle today as it was all FAP FAP FAP all over this land access design document.

I'm so childish.

frances boredom coconut (Trayce), Friday, 31 August 2012 05:27 (eleven years ago) link

I have maybe talked about this in this thread, but an old boss of mine (kooky lawyer with the most rudimentary computer skills) decided to try responding to his own emails, which he would do in all caps and treated kind of like a telegram, so opposing counsel's paralegals would get emails from him that said things like:

FU ASAP

TY,
Bob Loblaw

carl agatha, Friday, 31 August 2012 12:30 (eleven years ago) link

The rooms on the first floor of the south wing of my old workplace all have numbers prefixed by FFS.

ljubljana, Saturday, 1 September 2012 01:05 (eleven years ago) link

My weirdo butt slapping co-worker can get really snippy and short sometimes and finally this morning I snapped and barked "Don't give me attitude, I didn't do anything wrong!" at her. The look on her face was priceless and she must have apologized about 5 times throughout the day because she realized I was totally right. It was sorta awesome.

(✿◠‿◠) (ENBB), Saturday, 1 September 2012 01:08 (eleven years ago) link

Good for you!

frances boredom coconut (Trayce), Saturday, 1 September 2012 01:38 (eleven years ago) link

That happened to me the other day! I was trying to be proactive abt my job/doing stuff that had to be done but wasn't required of me and my boss was being kind of bitchy and I just said sternly "I'm just trying to help", and it was like the power went out and she just paused and then got super apologetic and apologized like 3x in the next hour.

clijster flockhart (Stevie D(eux)), Saturday, 1 September 2012 01:58 (eleven years ago) link

Yes! I bet it was awesome, right?

(✿◠‿◠) (ENBB), Saturday, 1 September 2012 02:00 (eleven years ago) link

This must be the week for it! I mutinied Thursday morning when my boss and her assistant basically gave me a five gallon bucket of scraps and told me to turn it into a pint of strawberry jam.

How's My Modding? Call 1-800-TITLEFIX (WmC), Saturday, 1 September 2012 02:20 (eleven years ago) link

hi 5's all around

(✿◠‿◠) (ENBB), Saturday, 1 September 2012 02:35 (eleven years ago) link

All our work-fu is strong.

How's My Modding? Call 1-800-SBU-RSELF (WmC), Saturday, 1 September 2012 02:42 (eleven years ago) link

i swear my workplace's general blasé attitude really bothers me.

i am a lazy cunt at the best of times but i treat my job with a minimum standard of respect. lately i just lol at how lax my place is, people rolling in at 945 or 10 when it's a 930 start (but effectively anyone serious would come in at 9.)

nobody is ever told off for anything, and they're all paid well with good bonuses. if it's a sunny day some of them start whinging at the bosses to ask can they leave early, like fucking kids in playschool or some shit.

this was topped off last week when my boss rang in sick on thurs and said he wouldn't be in friday either. never heard the like of this in my life, someone pre-emptively saying they're sick for the following day.

he said he had tonsilitis yet he was in today, of course, "oh yeah antibiotics sorted it".

no coincidence that i was off friday and he'd have had to do my duties that day, as it was i had to do a megaload of work thurs.

i just can't get over how a big company has no discipline at all, you'd think it'd make my job easy and maybe it does, but overall it makes me want to leave.

Know how Roo feel (LocalGarda), Monday, 3 September 2012 20:46 (eleven years ago) link

can i get a job pls

Randy Carol (darraghmac), Monday, 3 September 2012 23:47 (eleven years ago) link

The three (very nice) people who share my office never rock up before 10:30. They work late as a result, and they all work hard, but it means I spend the first few hours of every day fielding phone calls and telling confused-looking co-workers looking for them that they're not in. Which is really annoying. As is the inability of said co-workers to get used to the fact that THEY'RE NEVER HERE BEFORE 10.30 STOP ASKING ME WHERE THEY ARE!!!

computers are the new "cool tool" (James Morrison), Monday, 3 September 2012 23:50 (eleven years ago) link

when it's a 930 start (but effectively anyone serious would come in at 9.)

hate this kind of culture (thankfully absent at my place). fair enough some people might like high pressure and long hours and maybe the compensation is appropriate, but not for me ta. our core hours are 10-4.30 and you're free to work your full 7.5 hours either side of those.

ledge, Tuesday, 4 September 2012 10:18 (eleven years ago) link

7 hours, actually.

ledge, Tuesday, 4 September 2012 10:18 (eleven years ago) link

flexitime is the best. i'd struggle to put a monetary value on it.

Randy Carol (darraghmac), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 10:23 (eleven years ago) link

i just find it uninspiring personally, that kind of environment.

Know how Roo feel (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 10:27 (eleven years ago) link

I'd kill for flexi again, I miss that about public service jobs so bad. all the corp IT jobs ive had have done shit like writing you up for being FIVE MINUTES late. I mean jesus.

frances boredom coconut (Trayce), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 10:30 (eleven years ago) link

if i ever find an environment i find personally inspiring i'll run a fuckin mile tbh

Randy Carol (darraghmac), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 10:48 (eleven years ago) link

why?

Know how Roo feel (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 10:51 (eleven years ago) link

i come from a bad home, y'ronner

Randy Carol (darraghmac), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 11:37 (eleven years ago) link

they only bumped me up since. i'm not gonna act inspired about it tho.

Randy Carol (darraghmac), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 14:32 (eleven years ago) link

my stupid annoying coworker has decided she doesn't want to do something and (seemingly unilaterally) that I'm going to be the person to do it; it's a heap of shit which is going to involve lots of boring admin and nagging of other coworkers

she basically sent me a long email outlining what's involved, copying in the CEO and her boss ostensibly saying over to you. I've responded w/a stalling email saying 'thanks for this, we'll have a look into how we can help with this.' but ultimately I'm going to have to say 'fuck actual off, you're not my boss; if it's a priority that this get done on my time then ask/convince my boss not me.'

skrill xx (cozen), Thursday, 6 September 2012 21:13 (eleven years ago) link

I'm finishing up my work during my notice period here and I've got more work than I can finish, which I have been very transparent about, but my coworker flat out refuses to take on any of it even though she's months ahead of deadline and has plenty of time to do the work. In fact, she was begging the admin to give her more cases to work on. Just be a team player, coworker! I mean, it doesn't matter to me one way or another. I will finish what I can and my boss will deal with it, but it shocks and amazes me that someone would flat out refuse to help out in a situation like this. What is the benefit to her?

Another coworker organized a going away lunch for me (<3) and the coworker who won't do any more work, with whom I have shared an office for nearly five years and have what I thought was a friendly relationship with has told me, "No offense, but I'm not going to go to your lunch." I don't think she hates me. She just thinks spending her lunch hour with me would be an imposition. She did tell the admin that she wanted to "do something" for me, and thought she would bring in donuts. If you want to do something, just go to lunch. Jesus.

carl agatha, Thursday, 6 September 2012 22:00 (eleven years ago) link

(nb: I don't really like donuts.)

carl agatha, Thursday, 6 September 2012 22:01 (eleven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2PtsSKE4mY

Know how Roo feel (LocalGarda), Thursday, 6 September 2012 22:12 (eleven years ago) link

Currently have 18,000 customers waiting for an important, time-sensitive item they've paid well in advance for because someone whose job it is to read a timetable and act accordingly had the date on which it was meant to be ordered for production and the date on which it was meant to be posted out mixed up in their head. I want to cry.

Temporarily Famous In The Czech Republic (ShariVari), Thursday, 6 September 2012 22:13 (eleven years ago) link

I'm finna send her that clip. xp

carl agatha, Thursday, 6 September 2012 22:15 (eleven years ago) link

will you go to *jazz hands* LUNCH

Know how Roo feel (LocalGarda), Thursday, 6 September 2012 22:18 (eleven years ago) link

I hate to admit it because I'm too cool to care, but it hurt my feelings a little that my weird coworker won't take an hour of her precious day to have lunch with me before I leave and never speak to her jerkass again. HOWEVER "will you go to *jazz hands* LUNCH" is making me feel better because it is so weird and great.

carl agatha, Thursday, 6 September 2012 22:20 (eleven years ago) link

Like, I walk into her cube, say "Will you go to lunch? Go to lunch. Will you go to lunch?" and then jazz hands my way out the door.

carl agatha, Thursday, 6 September 2012 22:21 (eleven years ago) link

i often feel vague unhappiness that total fucking zomboloids i work with may dislike me, but i try to remind myself that they have never felt anything with any real strength in their entire lives and then i feel better.

xpost lolz

Know how Roo feel (LocalGarda), Thursday, 6 September 2012 22:25 (eleven years ago) link

My male boss has huge explosive temper tantrums (he never yells *at* people, but still). Today he lost his iPhone and commenced melting down. Then he found it and immediately calmed back down, walked by my office and said "That was cathartic." I SMDH at him and he said, "It wasn't that bad, was it? I was being tongue-in-cheek!" and laughed.

????

(*・_・)ノ⌒ ☆ (Je55e), Thursday, 6 September 2012 22:28 (eleven years ago) link

guy right behind me (in a call centre, mind) comes in, sits at his desk at 8.59, waits for the first call of the day, inhales like he's about to cartoon blow the fuckin wall down and says EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEYYYY-AWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW, EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEYYYY-AWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW, EEEEEEEEEEEYYYYYYY-AWWWWWWWWWW until lunch time. he takes an hour off, bums round, whatever, sits back at desk, another huge breath in, fills the aul lungs up good, that phone rings, EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEYYY-AWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW, EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEYYYYYYYYYYY-AWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW, EEEEEEEEEEEEEYY-AWWWWWWWWWWWWW until 5pm, logs off, goes home, presumably to a fuckin stable i dunno

― starfish entryprize (darraghmac), Tuesday, July 17, 2012 6:26 PM (1 month ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

[…]

haaaaa

I solved it!

We just got a call in from someone insisting on caint as gaeilge- it was transferred to this guy, and he speaks irish like a warrior poet, and QUIETLY

― starfish entryprize (darraghmac), Wednesday, July 18, 2012 7:29 AM (1 month ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this isn't provoked by anything but there is still something about this story that I find truly wonderful

"Pffft" --buddha (silby), Thursday, 6 September 2012 22:30 (eleven years ago) link

Je55e, how would he react to a shrug and a stonefaced "you're the boss, you're allowed to offload all your stress onto me" ?

How's My Modding? Call 1-800-SBU-RSELF (WmC), Thursday, 6 September 2012 22:32 (eleven years ago) link

Ugh. I've talked to him about it before and honest to god, he was confused because he thinks he's doing the healthy thing by expressing his anger instead of bottling it up like he used to (one of the other partners has known him since college and he confirmed that he never used to be like he is now) and like his dad used to do.

One time his car got towed and I gave him a ride to retrieve it. On the ride, he was "expressing his anger," going, "I hate this city! I hate everyone!" then catching himself and calmly adding, "Except for you."

(*・_・)ノ⌒ ☆ (Je55e), Friday, 7 September 2012 00:57 (eleven years ago) link

<3 who could hate a Je55e! I hate those kind of people though; I had a boss who'd get similarly petulant. Just "let it out" quietly and alone, fuckface.

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Friday, 7 September 2012 01:39 (eleven years ago) link

a coworker of mine whom i otherwise like uses the phrase "no worries" on the phone after abt every other word and it drives me insane. i need to start keeping a tally.

clouds, Friday, 7 September 2012 03:54 (eleven years ago) link

I say that a bit :/ I'm australian tho, I'm allowed.

frances boredom coconut (Trayce), Friday, 7 September 2012 04:08 (eleven years ago) link

I say that too. It's a disease. :(

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Friday, 7 September 2012 12:46 (eleven years ago) link

if you're australian it's fine because it's obviously of australian provenance, but it just seems affected like americans saying "cheers" (usually incorrectly). dude you're from michicgan stfu

clouds, Friday, 7 September 2012 13:00 (eleven years ago) link

i'm not sure how people from "michicgan" speak tho

clouds, Friday, 7 September 2012 13:01 (eleven years ago) link

I'm from Canada, not sure if that's more or less acceptable ;)

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Friday, 7 September 2012 13:02 (eleven years ago) link

i'll allow it!

clouds, Friday, 7 September 2012 13:05 (eleven years ago) link

Timbits for everyone!

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Friday, 7 September 2012 13:12 (eleven years ago) link

i'm not sure how people from "michicgan" speak tho

I learned last weekend that it really depends on which part of Michigan you're talking about.

carl agatha, Friday, 7 September 2012 14:06 (eleven years ago) link

http://www.michigan.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/The-Mitten-State_LOVE-tee.jpeg

what I am actually wearing today ^^^

purveyor of generations (in orbit), Friday, 7 September 2012 14:08 (eleven years ago) link

Ha I thought you said he was from Michoacan.

"No worries" has crossed. over, IMO, and doesn't sound affected. But saying it in every sentence is annoying.

(*・_・)ノ⌒ ☆ (Je55e), Friday, 7 September 2012 14:10 (eleven years ago) link

What about "no wuzzles"?

emil.y, Friday, 7 September 2012 14:12 (eleven years ago) link

No puggles.

purveyor of generations (in orbit), Friday, 7 September 2012 14:23 (eleven years ago) link

Carl and my friend who has a lot of communication with Brits bc she works for a British firm picked up "sorted" in the sense of "taken care of" "or "fixed." It's funny bc she hates my fascination with dialects and she avoids affectations but that word snuck up on her. It's an involuntary Briticism.

(*・_・)ノ⌒ ☆ (Je55e), Friday, 7 September 2012 14:42 (eleven years ago) link

I picked up "sorted" from ILX, you jerks.

carl agatha, Friday, 7 September 2012 14:43 (eleven years ago) link

Nice one, top one, sorted

Arvo Pärt Chimp (Neil S), Friday, 7 September 2012 14:45 (eleven years ago) link

Do you say it like sor-idd

kinder, Friday, 7 September 2012 15:50 (eleven years ago) link

sordid

carl agatha, Friday, 7 September 2012 15:53 (eleven years ago) link

Got any salmon?

still small voice of clam (a passing spacecadet), Friday, 7 September 2012 18:10 (eleven years ago) link

Remember how I kvetched that my coworkers get me confused with another coworker with the same first name despite us looking/acting/sounding nothing alike?

I put in my notice, but it seems everybody thinks the Other Jennifer is leaving this job and not me. I was standing in our admin's office talking to her and another admin, and our admin told the other admin, "You know Jennifer is leaving, right?" (referring to me, who is standing right there participating in the conversation) and the other admin said, and I quote, "People keep telling me that. What the fuck do I care if she's leaving? We never talk anyway." People had been telling her that the other Jennifer was leaving.

Sigh.

carl agatha, Friday, 7 September 2012 21:15 (eleven years ago) link

HR once brought the other Jennifer into a confidential meeting about my compensation package. The other Jennifer figured it out when they gave her papers to sign and my name was printed on the bottom.

carl agatha, Friday, 7 September 2012 21:16 (eleven years ago) link

Jesus Christ that is unbelievable!

kinder, Friday, 7 September 2012 21:29 (eleven years ago) link

It makes me feel like I'm in a David Lynch movie sometimes. Or I'll have little existential crises, like... am I really here? Do I really exist?

carl agatha, Friday, 7 September 2012 21:45 (eleven years ago) link

You should start referring to the other Jennifer as White Jennifer.

(*・_・)ノ⌒ ☆ (Je55e), Friday, 7 September 2012 21:47 (eleven years ago) link

That would be hilarious but would not clear up the confusion.

carl agatha, Friday, 7 September 2012 21:48 (eleven years ago) link

I'll be Regular Jennifer and she can be Bizarro Jennifer.

carl agatha, Friday, 7 September 2012 21:49 (eleven years ago) link

And call yourself Mexican Jennifer.

(*・_・)ノ⌒ ☆ (Je55e), Friday, 7 September 2012 21:50 (eleven years ago) link

Ah what the hell, just go with Black Jennifer.

(*・_・)ノ⌒ ☆ (Je55e), Friday, 7 September 2012 21:50 (eleven years ago) link

BIZARRO BIZARRO I LOVE YOU BIZARRO

congratulations (n/a), Friday, 7 September 2012 21:51 (eleven years ago) link

http://goteaminternet.com/img/docs/6880.jpg

L to R: my boss, Bizarro Jennifer, the Hymn Singing Security Guard*, the coworker who wouldn't go to lunch. Not pictured because I don't exist: me

carl agatha, Friday, 7 September 2012 22:01 (eleven years ago) link

*I was doing my thing in the stall and in comes the Hymn Singing Security Guard, singing a hymn, and she pushed open the door of the stall next to mine, stopped singing and shouted, "GOOD LORD!" I peeked in there on my way out and the less said about what someone did to that toilet the better, but it was enough to make her take the Lord's name in vain so you know it was bad.

carl agatha, Friday, 7 September 2012 22:02 (eleven years ago) link

omg carl, I'm glad you got a new job, but also SO sad because these people you work with now!!! David Lynch world + Being John Malkovich + holy crap crazy!

Jaq, Friday, 7 September 2012 22:18 (eleven years ago) link

dying @ other jennifer stories, i would abuse that situation very badly i think

Randy Carol (darraghmac), Friday, 7 September 2012 22:57 (eleven years ago) link

ultimate goal of course is to get paid but otherwise have nobody know you exist

"Pffft" --buddha (silby), Saturday, 8 September 2012 00:04 (eleven years ago) link

oh i manage that most days

Randy Carol (darraghmac), Saturday, 8 September 2012 00:05 (eleven years ago) link

If I were craftier, I could leverage this into some kind of ghost payrollee scheme. And I wouldn't even have to be related to an elected official!

carl agatha, Saturday, 8 September 2012 03:14 (eleven years ago) link

eh

so i was mini-promoted (acting basis kinda thing, in a department not likely to exist in another few weeks, but still) on wednesday. but complications arising from the fact that i'm on a permanent contract as opposed to temp (95% staff here are agency) means that the boss called me in on thursday to rescind the title and the bucks after HR raised hell.

i'm better off in that the work is supervisory and generally better (experience, cv boost, off the phones and away from braying mouths) but jeez i kinda wish he'd checked his facts before he told me i was getting a raise.

anyway.

Randy Carol (darraghmac), Saturday, 8 September 2012 09:38 (eleven years ago) link

oh god! What an immense tool. :( sorry darragh.

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Saturday, 8 September 2012 13:30 (eleven years ago) link

Wow, yeah. Fact check! That really sucks.

carl agatha, Saturday, 8 September 2012 13:32 (eleven years ago) link

shit dmac, I'm in a very similar boat. I'd like to relay the details, but I'm headed out the door at the moment and I feel like I'd have to actually draw several office org charts to fully convey what's happened. Similar results though. No title. No raise*. About 3x as many responsibilities. No staff to delegate the work to. It's been a year. I discussed the whole thing with my new director and I believe her when she says she's trying hard to make something happen.

*When he was leaving, I asked my former director how large my pay increase would have been and he said that the last guy to hold that position was earning $10-$15K more than me.

centipede burt s (how's life), Saturday, 8 September 2012 14:34 (eleven years ago) link

well hold on like- i'm better of than i was heading into work on wed morning, in every way but official title and salary. it was just a bummer to get lifted and dropped like

your sitch sounds *much* worse tbh, sympathies

Randy Carol (darraghmac), Saturday, 8 September 2012 16:35 (eleven years ago) link

and xp the boss emailed HR, told them he was bumping me up, asked would there be any issues, was told no! he's pushing to get something arranged, and was v apologetic, i'm p easygoing about this stuff tbrr.

Randy Carol (darraghmac), Saturday, 8 September 2012 16:36 (eleven years ago) link

Overheard a bunch of coworkers in the break room discussing ("discussing") Serena Williams, e.g. "she looks like a monster."

R=J-L (Leee), Saturday, 8 September 2012 23:15 (eleven years ago) link

Grrrrrrr

carl agatha, Saturday, 8 September 2012 23:23 (eleven years ago) link

I telecommute and my co-workers are also my neighbors. Sometimes. I work for my dad's old company but he is dead.

I mean, I gladly do most of the heavy lifting. Don't get paid much but it's "expected" that me and my family make the biggest contribution and pull the most weight.

Meanwhile it seems everyone else who doesn't have the "family connections" get a bigger salary and, um, no thanks.

None of them came to my father's funeral even though it made them rich and bought them second houses and vacations and all.

i don't even know who to blame for this but whoever decided to turn off autocomplete in the to: and cc: sections of our email, FUCK YOU

call all destroyer, Saturday, 15 September 2012 16:24 (eleven years ago) link

some lazy grad student sent two 50+ page docs to the printer, and either never followed up or saw the "change toner" sign and decided to let someone else do it. so i did it, and now i have to wait for all that shit to come out for mine to come out.

rayuela, Monday, 17 September 2012 20:04 (eleven years ago) link

can't you cancel the job? i have no qualms about doing that in those situations.

gyac, Monday, 17 September 2012 20:22 (eleven years ago) link

it occurred to me to do that right after i posted. so i did.

she came out of her cube when she heard the printer going (but after i had hit cancel), which to me that says she knew it was stuck and just waited for someone else to do it.

rayuela, Monday, 17 September 2012 20:25 (eleven years ago) link

justified!

gyac, Monday, 17 September 2012 20:29 (eleven years ago) link

Not exactly coworker here, but a consultant is driving me batshit. He requested an AutoCAD background file from us, so I sent it over right away. Got a call that this didn't work, he's running an older version of AutoCAD and needs it to be saved as Release 11. Now, I'm not sure how exactly to explain this to those unfamiliar with AutoCAD but Release 11 came out in 1990. As in 22 years ago. We're running AutoCAD 2011 at my office, and saving it back that far isn't even an option. I'm working on it, but no luck with something he can open yet.

Anyway, my IA kicks in when this consultant sends out an email to the client, copying me, that says "the architect isn't being cooperative and getting me the files I need, our work may be delayed". His first request for a file came in at 7:50 this morning. It is now 9:45 and I've sent him five different files in an attempt to get him one that works. Its not my fault you're running 22 year-old software, so don't bitch to the client to make it look like we aren't being helpful when I'm busy bending myself over backwards to help your Luddite ass.

heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 24 September 2012 14:44 (eleven years ago) link

I'm doing an Autocad course through a government scheme at the moment, the teacher last week said that if we went to autodesk we should be able to download the programme.
Might be an option,if that is possible outside Ireland. I haven't looked into it myself.
Though having a computer that wants to run a '90 version presumably means he wants a much newer computer anyway. Is the guy a Luddite?

Stevolende, Monday, 24 September 2012 14:48 (eleven years ago) link

Sounded like teacher meant for free there too. Might have more to do with us being students that wouldn't cross over into business but still might be an option once he gets with the programme and gets a functional computer.

Stevolende, Monday, 24 September 2012 14:51 (eleven years ago) link

newstart in my dept. is driving me crazy with his crappy work ethic, constant sighing and inane questions/statements. a sample from today:

- "Is Hallowe'en the 25th?"
- "The year should end on 21/12, the winter solstice. I feel quite strongly about this."
- "What kind of 4s do you do?"
- "Blacking up is sometimes acceptable... if done 'sensitively'." (!)
- "Is there still time for a coffee?" (asked at 16:45)
- "I fucking hate Carrot Top." (apropos of nothing)

skrill xx (cozen), Monday, 24 September 2012 18:23 (eleven years ago) link

- "I hate affirmative action. It's just another kind of racism." (!)

skrill xx (cozen), Monday, 24 September 2012 18:27 (eleven years ago) link

Jom - i would have been furious. scathing email from an enraged Thermo would have been the result!

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 24 September 2012 19:34 (eleven years ago) link

methinks we may need a new thread

Brian Eno's Mother (Latham Green), Monday, 24 September 2012 19:49 (eleven years ago) link

I sure love being asked to support software I have never even seen

Brian Eno's Mother (Latham Green), Monday, 24 September 2012 19:52 (eleven years ago) link

Why new thread? This one is not even at 5,000, which seems like nothing these days. Though really a new thread is fine w/ me as long as the first post contains a link to this thread (as should be done for all rolling threads!)

(*・_・)ノ⌒ ☆ (Je55e), Tuesday, 25 September 2012 05:03 (eleven years ago) link

The associate attorney I've posted about quite a lot here actually did something good today: He saw my 60-some-year-old boss for the first time since she got her hair cut and dyed, and he said to her, "Oh nice, you got your hair did. It looks good." She looked at him funny and teased him about his grammar. Meanwhile, I held back from laughing my ass off b/c he's the epitome of whitebread from Iowa, and it was obvious that he wasn't saying "got your hair did" humorously or to try to sound cool, but because for some reason that was the phrase that happened to come out of his mouth.

(*・_・)ノ⌒ ☆ (Je55e), Tuesday, 25 September 2012 05:19 (eleven years ago) link

- was on holidays friday/monday
- as is my wont, I did not once check my email, because ON LEAVE (and besides i was 2 hours away on a seaside cliff with a friend)
- got in this morning FIVE MINUTES late; while PC was still booting up I grabed some water (no point wasting time rite?)
- boss corralled me in kitchen demanding i send him some info he was after "in the next 5 -10 mins please"
- he then followed this up with a terse all staff email reminding people not to be late for work
- boss had sent me this request the day before. When I was on leave. Which he knew. Did he expect me to check me mail? Eff that
- turns out the things he wanted? I'd already sent him, before. TWICE. But you cannot, CANNOT argue with this man and say "you already have this", that answer is NEVER CORRECT.
- bolded the bits he neeeded from overal (one fscking page) document, re sent to him

FUUUUCK

frances boredom coconut (Trayce), Tuesday, 25 September 2012 06:31 (eleven years ago) link

scuse typos, i have a bandaged finger lol

frances boredom coconut (Trayce), Tuesday, 25 September 2012 06:32 (eleven years ago) link

Annoying Woman #1: I wonder how that girl in Argentina died.
Annoying Woman #2 (AKA Kathy Griffin Voice): Where did you hear about that?
AW #1: It was in the newspaper this morning.
AW #2: Oh, that could have been ANYTHING down there. She could have been eaten by alligator, crocodile...

cwkiii, Wednesday, 26 September 2012 13:27 (eleven years ago) link

Its not my fault you're running 22 year-old software, so don't bitch to the client to make it look like we aren't being helpful when I'm busy bending myself over backwards to help your Luddite ass.

My late dad worked in engineering and a lot of the older guys had really old computers and versions of AutoCAD, this made me laugh. He got a new computer two years before he died, but his previous computer was from 1998! As was his AutoCAD. But jeez does 1990 AutoCAD even work? Might make a nice children's game.

Yeah I can't even imagine the PC that its running on. Apparently one of the files I sent him that day finally did work, but I'm honestly baffled as to how.

HAPPY BDAY TOOTS (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 26 September 2012 16:50 (eleven years ago) link

I was given one of those summertime "housekeeping" tasks, with the understanding that I'd get two temps to help me. Senior staff can be gone for four weeks at a time in summer!

I have to work extra hours and I'm afraid to log those hours and ask for a raise. I mean, I was in denial about it, July came and I thought, "surely we'll have a temp assistant coming in soon." Now it's the end of the summer and I have to finish this stuff by October. I'll get it done but not without putting in extra hours.

Manager posted on FB (we were friends before my hire) about how I was promoted "instead" of her into a marketing role, completely ignoring my 15 years of (hobbyist, but still solid) design experience and making it sound like people just like me better and she should've got it :P C'mon, that's just petty.

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Thursday, 27 September 2012 15:43 (eleven years ago) link

Wow, some people really should not post to Facebook. That is so unprofessional! I think it's okay to bitch on a bulletin board, but I wouldn't complain about jobs on Facebook unless I didn't have a serious commitment. Offending the wrong person could screw up your career for YEARS.

yeah, it's kind of shitty. We both do sales reporting now, I do the grunt work and she builds the more interesting reports.. I mentioned in my review that I'd like to move into marketing should the opportunity arise and she said that probably wouldn't happen. Then a VP went past her completely and offered me a role! That was ~6 weeks ago and no official announcement has happened yet and she's been very distant and weird since. I DIDN'T DO ANYTHING. I even gave her a heads up immediately when I realized they hadn't spoken to her - she didn't "officially" find out until two weeks ago. I feel like that deserves a little more than casual resentment. Ah well.

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Thursday, 27 September 2012 15:53 (eleven years ago) link

Maybe some of you do this as well, but I don't get the guy who eats lunch at this desk watching straight-up recordings of Halo missions on YouTube.

pplains, Thursday, 27 September 2012 16:30 (eleven years ago) link

I quite like watching videos of people playing stuff. It's gaming the lazy way. Very relaxing.

Eyeball Kicks, Thursday, 27 September 2012 16:38 (eleven years ago) link

FFM, that manager is being super unprofessional and also a jealous petty jerk. Also - congratulations!!!

carl agatha, Thursday, 27 September 2012 16:56 (eleven years ago) link

Wow, that is so immature. I don't know if you like your job or not - it sounds like you do. I hate when you love your job and most of your co-workers but then you get some childish behavior. Don't know if that's your situation, but I've been there. Like you're happy and like everyone then some childish snub occurs. I mean, you get comfortable and excited and someone pulls your chair out from under you.

I have a friend who has worked one shit job after another and her attitude is, well, I'll just leave if I get sick of it, "says more about you than me." With my resume, I can't have that carefree attitude. I mean, "college degree, graduate work, design and publishing experience...and you just walk out of a job if you don't like it." Doesn't work well in interviews.

Thanks, Carl! I got to submit my first ad to be printed in a Legit (trade) Magazine, felt so cool.
I like Excel but my current job is hard to *love* - I think the new one will be extremely lovable! I'm the type who prefers to be busy than bored. The kicker is, I'm still not a 'manager' so it wouldn't have been a promotion for her! No good reason for angst. OH WELL. She's not being mean to me directly, just kind of annoying.

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Thursday, 27 September 2012 17:12 (eleven years ago) link

FFM! - that's superb. Well done! As for your co-worker, imo it'd be better to be mean to you directly (not that she should do that either) than post somewhere where she surely knows you'll see it. Bizarre.

ljubljana, Friday, 28 September 2012 02:20 (eleven years ago) link

Maybe some of you do this as well, but I don't get the guy who eats lunch at this desk watching straight-up recordings of Halo missions on YouTube.

Which bit is bugging you, the desklunch or the LetsPlays? I hate it when people eat at their desks but Ive ranted about that so many times on this thread i'm not starting again (boss who sits behind me's on hols in Borneo the last 2 weeks - its been bliss not hearing crunch slurp clink all day long)

frances boredom coconut (Trayce), Friday, 28 September 2012 03:39 (eleven years ago) link

at my last job i sat next to this old dude who would bring in an entire cooler with salad ingredients for his lunch

clouds, Friday, 28 September 2012 11:59 (eleven years ago) link

I'm getting a little tired of two co-workers who sit next to me who believe that EVERYTHING IS A CONSPIRACY (TO MAKE THEM DO MORE WORK).

The Mexican Berger (King Boy Pato), Friday, 28 September 2012 12:00 (eleven years ago) link

help me

conrad, Monday, 1 October 2012 09:54 (eleven years ago) link

new guy positioned adjacent to me jiggling head back and forth incessantly constantly hands all over his face regularly picking or entering orifices subsequently examining fingertips plus really battering keyboard inbetween help me

conrad, Monday, 1 October 2012 10:21 (eleven years ago) link

Coworker stopped me in hall to congratulate on still unannounced promotion.. other coworker overheard and congratulated me on my pregnancy

0_0

damnit

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Tuesday, 2 October 2012 15:15 (eleven years ago) link

Ha ha what?

kinder, Tuesday, 2 October 2012 17:18 (eleven years ago) link

All she heard was congratulations and my chunky frame apparently led her to believe I was concealing a pregnancy! Not awkward, promise. (A little awkward. Luckily it's someone I can threaten to 'duel in the parking lot after work.')

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Tuesday, 2 October 2012 17:21 (eleven years ago) link

That has happened to me - chirpy congratulation on bun in the oven in a packed and silent room full of co-workers...

ljubljana, Tuesday, 2 October 2012 22:41 (eleven years ago) link

God, people are so fucking weird

bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 2 October 2012 22:41 (eleven years ago) link

^^^^

the physical impossibility of sb in the mind of someone fping (silby), Tuesday, 2 October 2012 22:45 (eleven years ago) link

It is weird! I would never! Ljub, if you want to split childcare costs let me know :P

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Tuesday, 2 October 2012 23:06 (eleven years ago) link

I'm sadistic, but I take great, GREAT pleasure in innocently, hurtfully saying "but I'm not pregnant?!" when people do that. The mortified look on their face is enough for me :D

frances boredom coconut (Trayce), Tuesday, 2 October 2012 23:18 (eleven years ago) link

I am constantly dumbfounded by how clueless and tactless people can be

bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 2 October 2012 23:25 (eleven years ago) link

xp Hahaha. I think I said "what the hell, jerk!" or something similar. She's not an easily embarrassed type sadly.

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Tuesday, 2 October 2012 23:26 (eleven years ago) link

FFM, I'll do the school run if you do the weekends

ljubljana, Tuesday, 2 October 2012 23:51 (eleven years ago) link

Sounds like a plan!

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Wednesday, 3 October 2012 00:03 (eleven years ago) link

My boss asked for help attaching photographs from My Pictures to an email using Outlook. She couldn't find the right picture b/c they were not showing up as thumbnails, so I told her just to go to Start and then to My Pictures so we could copy and paste them into the email. Before I could stop her, she closed her draft email and closed Outlook before clicking Start. That was weird b/c she definitely is more knowledgeable than that.

Next I had to basically give her a grueling tutorial on how to copy and paste a file. She seemed to think she had to open the picture and copy it from the image itself. Back in Outlook, she kept trying to paste it in the subject line - probably thinking it was the attachments line.

Then she wanted to send two other pictures to another person. She went to close Outlook again but I stopped her. She said, "But I have to go to the pictures folder!" I told her that she didn't have to close Outlook to do that - just click Start. She sat still, looking baffled, said, "But then how do I get to the Pictures folder?" and closed Outlook. Then I had to repeat my entire Copy/Paste 101, but this time with the black magic of selecting multiple files ;__; which she does ALL THE TIME in other programs. She performs ALL of those tasks all the time

In Outlook, she tried to paste the files into the subject line.

After all that she said, "Argh. Why can't Blackberry make the process more user friendly?"

(*・_・)ノ⌒ ☆ (Je55e), Monday, 8 October 2012 21:21 (eleven years ago) link

o_O

www.toilet-guru.com (silby), Monday, 8 October 2012 21:31 (eleven years ago) link

FROM: STAFF
TO: MANAGEMENT
SUBJECT: MANDATORY TRAINING, TAKE ASAP

EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY: ALL MANAGEMENT MUST TAKE THE FOLLOWING TRAINING AS SOON AS POSSIBLE:

"HOW TO USE THE THING THAT YOU USE EVERY DAY FOR 8 HOURS"
INCLUDING ESSENTIAL MODULES SUCH AS "HOW TO COPY AND PASTE", "SAVE VS. SAVE AS - HOW DO I EVEN", "CTRL+S, CTRL+C, CTRL+X, CTRL+V > THEY WILL SAVE YOU HUNDREDS OF HOURS", "WHAT DOES CTRL MEAN??"

Thanks WEBSITE!! (Z S), Monday, 8 October 2012 21:59 (eleven years ago) link

i get it that people that grew up without computers aren't going to get it as quickly, but jesus fucking christ. it's like i go outside to grab a coffee but i accidentally take a left instead of a right. i realize that i'm at the wrong intersection. what do i do?! what do i do!? i could just recalibrate and walk the proper direction but instead i call a cab and go home, go to sleep, wake up again, go back to work, and then go back outside to get a coffee. THIS time i'll take a right instead of a left.

Thanks WEBSITE!! (Z S), Monday, 8 October 2012 22:03 (eleven years ago) link

My boss asked for help attaching photographs from My Pictures to an email using Outlook. She

This is the point when I knew who posted this.

carl agatha, Monday, 8 October 2012 23:24 (eleven years ago) link

Haha, yes. Post about someone behaving very much in character.

ZS, yes, tho today she was extra, super special. She definitely knows most of the shit she couldn't do today, but it was like she was senile! I was felt a touch of genuine concern, but she is otherwise completely normal. She just came down with an acute case of the dumbs today.

(*・_・)ノ⌒ ☆ (Je55e), Monday, 8 October 2012 23:42 (eleven years ago) link

it's like i go outside to grab a coffee but i accidentally take a left instead of a right. i realize that i'm at the wrong intersection. what do i do?! what do i do!?

And here's what our co-workers do:

CO-WORKER: I think I'm at the wrong intersection. Could you give me directions to the coffeeshop?

YOU: Sure. It's fairly nearby. First, just go back to –

CO-WORKER: Okay, this bus just stopped and I'm giving the driver my fare. What next? *doors shut*

pplains, Monday, 8 October 2012 23:57 (eleven years ago) link

Well, now I know who the undecided voters are.

tokyo rosemary, Monday, 8 October 2012 23:59 (eleven years ago) link

Although one girl does like Ron Paul.

tokyo rosemary, Tuesday, 9 October 2012 00:00 (eleven years ago) link

Grr.

I spend a fair amount of time analyzing my bosses' behaviors and I think her deal is that when it comes to computers, she can't seem to transfer knowledge. I.e., she knows how to select text in Word (to copy, cut, delete, whatever), but more than once when she was online, she called me into her office to ask how to select text from a web page. I remember telling her "Exactly like you do in Word," and her not understanding. It's like learning to drive from scratch - from the point of training wheels on a bicycle, even - when you go from a street to a freeway.

Also, is there a thread for bitching about stupid fucking vendors and clients??

(*・_・)ノ⌒ ☆ (Je55e), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 00:03 (eleven years ago) link

this seems close enough

www.toilet-guru.com (silby), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 00:04 (eleven years ago) link

I'm a candidate for a support engineer job but the people I'd be supporting are software developers and system administrators and the systems I'd be supporting are Linux servers, but maybe it will turn out that there's a more-advanced version of this I'll have to deal with.

But yeah computers are really difficult for people and it isn't necessarily their fault!

www.toilet-guru.com (silby), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 00:05 (eleven years ago) link

Why are people who are paid so much so frequently senile/forgetful/cbf ? Mine yelled at the entire support team a few weeks back for an "unauthorised" purchase of 4 hard drives for a server RAID array. Hard drives he'd recommended and approved purchase of mere days earlier. This was pointed out to him but he didnt apologise.

He bailed me up last week to demand I send him some info on certain supplier accounts ASAP OMG NEED IT URGENTLY.

Which'd be fine... except it was info he already had, had been sent to him by me TWICE, and had taken me some hours to write up :|

I just re-sent it to him. With the relevant bits bolded. Honestly sometimes its like that Simpsons episode where Mr Burns keeps demanding Don Mattingly shave off sideburns he doesnt even have. This guy can be told to his face "YOU HAVE THAT INFO ALREADY" and he just yells "DONT COMPLIN JUST DO AS I ASK".

FFS.

Una Stubbs' Tears (Trayce), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 02:06 (eleven years ago) link

Also I did lol massively at ""SAVE VS. SAVE AS - HOW DO I EVEN".

Una Stubbs' Tears (Trayce), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 02:07 (eleven years ago) link

Sometimes I can see where I could start getting that way with computer stuff. There is a shit-effin-ton of industry specific software and proprietary add-ins that I've never seen before and I managed to learn the very basics of it but there's just so much and I'm kind of crazy busy and I get a little "Why doesn't this just do exactly what I want it to do right now?!?!!!?! Fuck it I'm calling the service desk" about renaming a file in the document management system. (Right click, select "properties," change the name. :/ )

carl agatha, Tuesday, 9 October 2012 02:44 (eleven years ago) link

The software etc is at the new job. I forgot that part.

carl agatha, Tuesday, 9 October 2012 02:45 (eleven years ago) link

I've said it before, but it bears repeating: a little part of me dies whenever I hear the reporter behind me say to someone over the phone, "Hey there, just wanted to give you a shout..."

GIVE YOU A SHOUT
GIVE YOU A SHOUT

BASTARD IN A BASKET
BASTARD IN A BASKET

He also writes somewhere in his copy each week: "The sush and such deal tipped the scales at $780,000...." EVERY SINGLE WEEK.

pplains, Tuesday, 9 October 2012 02:48 (eleven years ago) link

Also I did lol massively at ""SAVE VS. SAVE AS - HOW DO I EVEN".

Ha! I didn't know what you were talking about b/c I somehow missed that post, and yes, hardy lol. Plus I just now re-read i could just recalibrate and walk the proper direction but instead i call a cab and go home, go to sleep, wake up again, go back to work, I LOLed so hard I spewed food pizza all over my monitor. Can I excelsior that even though this thread is deindexed?

xps

(*・_・)ノ⌒ ☆ (Je55e), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 03:12 (eleven years ago) link

food pizza as opposed to that liquid sort! =)

Una Stubbs' Tears (Trayce), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 03:29 (eleven years ago) link

oh - lol - I changed it b/c it rhymed, not to differentiate from Play-Doh pizza.

(*・_・)ノ⌒ ☆ (Je55e), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 03:53 (eleven years ago) link

yeah i worked with someone who'd say "give you a shout," fucking annoying

crisp apple morning (clouds), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 04:38 (eleven years ago) link

Liquid Pizza would be interesting.

a great poke for Jet Set Willy (snoball), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 08:55 (eleven years ago) link

Wait, that would be Pizza Soup.

a great poke for Jet Set Willy (snoball), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 08:55 (eleven years ago) link

I was thinking like Liquid Smoke but pizza flavored.

carl agatha, Tuesday, 9 October 2012 12:33 (eleven years ago) link

Our side of the building is mostly empty except for a row of 5 of us, a few managers and a woman in the corner office adjacent to the fire escape. It's a pretty quiet area.

EXCEPT. The woman by the fire escape has the most annoying habit of shouting from her office at whoever is passing by. She'll keep talking to someone who's just left her office HEY DON'T FORGET TO BLAH BLAH BLAH. Or if someone she knows walks anywhere near her office door she'll caterwaul HEY DID YOU GET THAT THING I SENT YOU? WHAT DO YOU THINK?

And if she gets no response she'll repeat the same thing 10 times. At the same volume. It's horrific.

I get dejavu because she sounds EXACTLY like my across the street neighbor, a terrible woman who screams from inside the house at her children playing in the front yard.

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 15:47 (eleven years ago) link

Like, she NEVER gets up from her desk!! She will not walk to the person to lower her volume. She just uses her horrible shrill voice like a tractor beam to drag people into her office. It's insane.

Every day I want to go over and shove a sock in her mouth.

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 15:48 (eleven years ago) link

yeah i worked with someone who'd say "give you a shout," fucking annoying

I say this without even thinking about it - why is it annoying?

emil.y, Tuesday, 9 October 2012 15:49 (eleven years ago) link

Unless the person actually means shouting, a la Veg's co-worker.

emil.y, Tuesday, 9 October 2012 15:50 (eleven years ago) link

oh she'll give you a shout alright, lol

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 15:51 (eleven years ago) link

emil.y, what if you said in every single fucking post.

This guy's on the phone, making calls all day. And in every single phone call, he uses that phrase.

Sometimes it's a variation, like "I want to give you a shout back after we talked the other day…"

pplains, Tuesday, 9 October 2012 15:54 (eleven years ago) link

It's more widely used in the UK I think.

ljubljana, Tuesday, 9 October 2012 15:58 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah, sounds like it. Here it's pretty much interchangeable with "give you a call", "let you know", "ring you back", "get in contact" etc. Don't think anyone would even notice that you were using an idiom rather than a more literal phrase.

emil.y, Tuesday, 9 October 2012 16:08 (eleven years ago) link

Maybe I'll anonymously email him your post and say "Here are four other phrases you can use."

pplains, Tuesday, 9 October 2012 16:09 (eleven years ago) link

Hahaha.

If it's not in not in widespread use I can see it being some sort of hideous affectation, I guess.

emil.y, Tuesday, 9 October 2012 16:09 (eleven years ago) link

yes, like my usual gripe about 'mericans saying "cheers" and "no worries" — especially if it's EVERY OTHER FUCKING WORD

crisp apple morning (clouds), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 16:39 (eleven years ago) link

that would be unweildy

Technology of the Big Muff (DJP), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 16:43 (eleven years ago) link

I think "no worries" is pretty normal in the U.S.... I certainly use it regularly (interchangeably with "no problem") and I hear it said commonly.

(*・_・)ノ⌒ ☆ (Je55e), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 18:52 (eleven years ago) link

It's mostly just annoying because you always say it with the comedy Australian accent.

carl agatha, Tuesday, 9 October 2012 20:05 (eleven years ago) link

nawurries mayte

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 20:09 (eleven years ago) link

Sometimes I can see where I could start getting that way with computer stuff. There is a shit-effin-ton of industry specific software and proprietary add-ins that I've never seen before and I managed to learn the very basics of it but there's just so much and I'm kind of crazy busy and I get a little "Why doesn't this just do exactly what I want it to do right now?!?!!!?!

Ha I feel you on this. As a programmer I probably ought to be better at keeping up but I know Excel 2003 pretty in-depth and I am secretly still running it 6 months after IT upgraded everyone else to 2007 (not 2010, that would be far too up-to-date for our IT dept) because fuck it I can't even find anything in that ribbon shit.

Also I started Powerpoint today because someone asked how to do a Powerpoint macro and I got all "I can do Excel macros and Access macros and Word macros, how hard can it be?" and then within ten minutes I was like "what is this shit I don't even, how does anyone use this" because it took me a minute to find the damn "start presentation" button and because macro stuff is different in Powerpoint for some reason

still small voice of clam (a passing spacecadet), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 20:11 (eleven years ago) link

yeah i worked with someone who'd say "give you a shout," fucking annoying

i say this a lot, more like "give me a shout if you have any problems".

i feel a bit of sympathy for people who say annoying shit all the time, when you are in charge or have to send people emails all the time, or when there are 2/3 emails you have to send every day ad infinitum, it's very hard not to lapse into your own personal clichés.

i always imagine my team taking the piss out of me for this behind my back, except they're all so dead inside i don't think they ever hang out.

i often spend a lot of time trying to rephrase a daily email like "can you all send me your streams"

my biggest clichés are

"it would be great if" or "if you could all .... then that'd be great."
"let me know if you have any problems with this."
"any problems with this just give me a shout."
"let's go with... for a lead at 11am"

Know how Roo feel (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 20:22 (eleven years ago) link

The ribbon is the bane of my existence. I went from an MS Word power user to a total chump.

carl agatha, Tuesday, 9 October 2012 20:37 (eleven years ago) link

I actually like the ribbon -- but it did take a little getting used to

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 20:42 (eleven years ago) link

worst is when you're scrolling up and down and all of a sudden you're racing through the ribbon tabs and you're left on an unfamiliar one

kinder, Tuesday, 9 October 2012 20:45 (eleven years ago) link

Do not fear the ribbon
The ribbon is out friend

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 21:07 (eleven years ago) link

You ribbon apologists probably miss Clippy, too.

carl agatha, Tuesday, 9 October 2012 21:08 (eleven years ago) link

oh snap

Technology of the Big Muff (DJP), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 21:09 (eleven years ago) link

xp No. Clippy was unforgivable. :)

I'm not sure if you could do this in pre-ribbon editions (I only learned about it with latest version) but the ability to add shortcut buttons to things like paste values/border formatting below the ribbon made life soooo much easier.

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 21:12 (eleven years ago) link

I've been using the shortcut buttons for years #braggin2012

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 21:22 (eleven years ago) link

:)

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 21:22 (eleven years ago) link

clippy was a douchebag

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 21:22 (eleven years ago) link

*makes "whatever" fingers at VG*

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 21:22 (eleven years ago) link

all my menus gone
what do i click on?
IT staff don't fear the ribbon
nor do the keyboard shortcut nerds

I could possibly sort of miss the little cat/dog that you could replace Clippy with. Or the half-hour when I discovered you could trigger all the assistant animations via Access macros and watched them all instead of doing any work, anyway.

iirc you could customise toolbars in pre-ribbon versions? I've never really done it though because then I have to look even more dumb than usual if I use someone else's computer

still small voice of clam (a passing spacecadet), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 21:23 (eleven years ago) link

I'm not sure if you could do this in pre-ribbon editions

y

mookieproof, Tuesday, 9 October 2012 21:23 (eleven years ago) link

menus aren't gone, they're just pictures now

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 21:24 (eleven years ago) link

FFM I'm pretty sure that's the only thing I have over you in Excel, based on yr already established madskillz :)

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 21:25 (eleven years ago) link

hold on tight, we're all going to get rich:

what if we manufacture keyboards that have the words "copy" on the C key, "paste" on the V, "cut" on the X, "undo" on the Z, "underline" on the U, "bold" on the B, "reload" on the R, etc? same concept as the dollar sign on the 4, asterisk on the 8, all of that. people are used to that, they understand if they hold down the control key and press 8 they'll get that other symbol instead. is it too much of a stretch to think they could could also understand copy and paste?

Thanks WEBSITE!! (Z S), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 21:26 (eleven years ago) link

I can't really picture the old excel anymore, gosh. I blame being sick. APS otm about looking like a fool on other computers. Occasionally I try to use the macro shortcuts I've set up on others then remember its only set up on my home/work profiles.

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 21:28 (eleven years ago) link

ope, too late, i already did it.

i'm retired and i post from here now

http://i49.tinypic.com/13ynzuq.jpg

Thanks WEBSITE!! (Z S), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 21:28 (eleven years ago) link

we could even put "italics" on the I

Thanks WEBSITE!! (Z S), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 21:28 (eleven years ago) link

this keyboard is so rad they named it after me
http://world.std.com/~jdostale/kbd/SpaceCadet1.jpeg

it also doesn't actually have a Copy key like I thought it did but I'm not going to let that get in the way of me pasting it

still small voice of clam (a passing spacecadet), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 21:29 (eleven years ago) link

FFM I'm pretty sure that's the only thing I have over you in Excel, based on yr already established madskillz :)

<3
I call it "lexcel" <--why I have no friends

Zs I am glad you are the world's future
fuck many xps

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 21:30 (eleven years ago) link

finally, a thumbs down key!

Thanks WEBSITE!! (Z S), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 21:30 (eleven years ago) link

xpost <3

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 21:31 (eleven years ago) link

I always customized all my toolbars and HATE anything where I can't.

purveyor of generations (in orbit), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 21:37 (eleven years ago) link

Ie now.

purveyor of generations (in orbit), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 21:37 (eleven years ago) link

mr veg got me thinking about 'how many mouseclicks' a while ago, and since then I've been shortcut girl

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 21:38 (eleven years ago) link

Hah!
When I was in HS my mouse broke and we couldn't afford any for a couple months so I became an expert at both mouse keys and any alt/ctrl shortcut going.

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 21:40 (eleven years ago) link

I call it "lexcel" <--why I have no friends

this made me imagine lex pretend trying to use excel, which would be hilarious

congratulations (n/a), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 21:40 (eleven years ago) link

The ribbon is the bane of my existence. I went from an MS Word power user to a total chump.
― carl agatha, Tuesday, October 9, 2012 8:37 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

otm. fukken ribbon

skrill xx (cozen), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 21:41 (eleven years ago) link

xxp Watching my dyspraxic coworker do everything with the mouse (including selecting 60,000 rows of data by clicking on cell A1 and dragging the mouse to cell F60000 over the course of several minutes and several restart-inducing misclicks, and including copying and pasting 3-letter commands or variable names from the previous line instead of retyping them) would have made me shortcut girl, except I was already, so it just made me twitch and mutter

still small voice of clam (a passing spacecadet), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 21:43 (eleven years ago) link

that would have made me homicide girl

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 21:44 (eleven years ago) link

When I was in HS my mouse broke and we couldn't afford any

When I was in junior high the little bit of plastic that held the mouse-ball in pre-optical mice broke and I got really good at working the mouse by putting my thumbs inside the mouse cavity and rolling the little metal cylinders. I even used Paint like this!

still small voice of clam (a passing spacecadet), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 21:45 (eleven years ago) link

omg

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 21:48 (eleven years ago) link

xp That's expert level! I definitely manipulated it for a laugh when cleaning but never did much of substance.

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 21:50 (eleven years ago) link

The ribbon is the bane of my existence. I went from an MS Word power user to a total chump.
― carl agatha, Tuesday, October 9, 2012 8:37 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

otm. fukken ribbon

― skrill xx (cozen), Tuesday, October 9, 2012 10:41 PM (3 minutes ago)

Dammit yes, that bastard ribbon.

a great poke for Jet Set Willy (snoball), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 21:50 (eleven years ago) link

I think I mainly just painted straight lines during this period (art critic voice), but, y'know.

still small voice of clam (a passing spacecadet), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 21:51 (eleven years ago) link

wow, lotsa ribbon haters

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 21:51 (eleven years ago) link

what if we manufacture keyboards that have the words "copy" on the C key, "paste" on the V, "cut" on the X, "undo" on the Z, "underline" on the U, "bold" on the B, "reload" on the R, etc?

That would look a lot like a ZX Spectrum keyboard (although it has BASIC commands on the keys, not shortcuts)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/33/ZXSpectrum48k.jpg/640px-ZXSpectrum48k.jpg

a great poke for Jet Set Willy (snoball), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 21:55 (eleven years ago) link

this made me imagine lex pretend trying to use excel, which would be hilarious

lol. I'd like to put lex p. and my boss together in an office that can only be unlocked by successfully creating a table in Word with a header that repeats across pages.

(*・_・)ノ⌒ ☆ (Je55e), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 22:04 (eleven years ago) link

Like an office version of The Crystal Maze?

Richard O'Brian: "Welcome to the Office Zone. Team captain, select a type of game."

a great poke for Jet Set Willy (snoball), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 22:09 (eleven years ago) link

Like an Office version of Cube more like.

carl agatha, Tuesday, 9 October 2012 22:19 (eleven years ago) link

I was going to embed a youtube of the Adam and Joe spoof of the Crystal Maze with Star Wars figurines, but Channel 4 have kindly blocked it in the UK, which I have to admit is probably the only country where it makes any damn sense at all

"only one crystal have you got - complete crap have you been! shafted are you!"

still small voice of clam (a passing spacecadet), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 22:19 (eleven years ago) link

(dear unsuspecting link-followers: please drink a lot before clicking that link, and then it may become approximately 0.02% as hilarious as it was to me aged 17. but probably not. it isn't actually very good.)

still small voice of clam (a passing spacecadet), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 22:20 (eleven years ago) link

I remember seeing that on TV and laughing so hard I couldn't breathe.

a great poke for Jet Set Willy (snoball), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 22:22 (eleven years ago) link

jon via chicago! A federal just in Denver just awarded a guy $7.3mil in damages in the first successful consumer popcorn lung lawsuit. Keep that in your back pocket in case your popcorn crazed coworker continues to fill your office with diacetyl fumes.

carl agatha, Wednesday, 10 October 2012 14:39 (eleven years ago) link

Look for microwave popcorn makers to advertise products as "Now all natural! No diacetyl!"

carl agatha, Wednesday, 10 October 2012 14:42 (eleven years ago) link

Today she can't figure out how to use Sort Kwik fingertip moisturizer.

I walked in and she was touching it, then kind of poking her fingertips together. When she saw me, she said (jokingly) "Help, I broke it!" I showed her how to rub her fingers together, and she tried it, but she did it wrong* several times, so instead of giving fingers more traction, it made them slicker. She went back to licking her fingers.

*she wasn't rubbing them together vigorously enough, or with enough surface contact.

(*・_・)ノ⌒ ☆ (Je55e), Wednesday, 10 October 2012 16:33 (eleven years ago) link

I showed her how to rub her fingers together
I showed her how to rub her fingers together
I showed her how to rub her fingers together
I showed her how to rub her fingers together
I showed her how to rub her fingers together
I showed her how to rub her fingers together

(*・_・)ノ⌒ ☆ (Je55e), Wednesday, 10 October 2012 16:35 (eleven years ago) link

She's going to die of Sort-Kwik poisoning!

Get her a rubber finger. She'll probably blind herself with it and then you'll have to teach her how to use dictation software.

carl agatha, Wednesday, 10 October 2012 16:36 (eleven years ago) link

someone has made it too hot in herre

mookieproof, Wednesday, 10 October 2012 16:36 (eleven years ago) link

take off all your clothes

Technology of the Big Muff (DJP), Wednesday, 10 October 2012 16:54 (eleven years ago) link

irl lols

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 10 October 2012 17:00 (eleven years ago) link

carl, she uses rubber finger tips. apparently without incident, even.

(*・_・)ノ⌒ ☆ (Je55e), Wednesday, 10 October 2012 17:16 (eleven years ago) link

jon via chicago! A federal just in Denver just awarded a guy $7.3mil in damages in the first successful consumer popcorn lung lawsuit. Keep that in your back pocket in case your popcorn crazed coworker continues to fill your office with diacetyl fumes.

Maybe I can launch this into a lucrative second-hand suit for unwanted exposure to diacetyl fumes.

HAPPY BDAY TOOTS (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 10 October 2012 17:20 (eleven years ago) link

Dear co-worker: If you have time to both call me (while I happen to be away from my desk) AND to send me an email that says nothing more than "Ring me when you have sec ;)" you have time to tell me what the fuck you want, you passive-aggressive jerk.

Tom Hardy & the Batbreakers (Phil D.), Wednesday, 10 October 2012 20:04 (eleven years ago) link

Just got cc'd on an email which contained the phrase "would be great to hear your thoughts." So I replied with my thoughts, and received the following reply from my immediate supervisor: "Thanks for your input, but hold off on commenting; it’s not really a majority vote." Um, I was pretty sure opinions were being solicited.

誤訳侮辱, Wednesday, 10 October 2012 20:30 (eleven years ago) link

u_u

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 10 October 2012 20:34 (eleven years ago) link

-what do you think?
-well i um
-NO ONE ASKED YOU

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 10 October 2012 20:34 (eleven years ago) link

Happens at my co kind of often because they're only asking for opins from the IMPORTANT people on the email.

purveyor of generations (in orbit), Wednesday, 10 October 2012 20:35 (eleven years ago) link

Yeesh.

Also hate that "call me when you get a chance" bullshit. Tell me what you want! That's what leave a message means!!!

carl agatha, Wednesday, 10 October 2012 20:36 (eleven years ago) link

I am def included as a lower-level peon who will be tasked w carrying out the wishes of the more august contributors--but not to actually speak.

purveyor of generations (in orbit), Wednesday, 10 October 2012 20:37 (eleven years ago) link

carl otm

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 10 October 2012 20:37 (eleven years ago) link

Some people are really terrible at leaving messages, tbf. I would rather be able to to interrupt them. (pvmic)

purveyor of generations (in orbit), Wednesday, 10 October 2012 20:39 (eleven years ago) link

email person x, who says please call me at this number at this time to talk
call at that number, that time - and I ask if I have called at a bad time.
no this is not a bad time, etc.
person x asks a question, I start to give a detailed answer since this is a good time to talk
person x interrupts my answer and asks if I can email him the information

THEN WHY DIDN'T WE JUST DO ALL OF THIS VIA EMAIL
RAAAAGGGGGH KILL U

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 10 October 2012 20:42 (eleven years ago) link

Get email from co-worker to ring person in the outside world I've never heard of who left me a message I don't understand about something that I don't recognise.

So I ring him, am on hold for 30 mins while they find him, and then he doesn't know what he called me for, and he starts asking me questions that make no sense in an effort to prompt his own memory. He's obviously afraid that this might be important, so he ignores my attempts to get off the phone and keeps chasing down non-leads from his failing memory. In the end I just had to hang up on him.

computers are the new "cool tool" (James Morrison), Thursday, 11 October 2012 00:16 (eleven years ago) link

He's probably kind of bummed out and worried himself; you should call him back and team up to complain to your co-worker.

www.toilet-guru.com (silby), Thursday, 11 October 2012 00:18 (eleven years ago) link

coworker 2 cubicles down from me -- I do actually like him 95% of the time, he's a very sweet and fun guy. But he is very tightly wound and the slightest problem will make him yell loudly at his desk, or storm over to our cubicles and start ranting.
Even worse when he's watching sports. So the Giants being in this current MLB playoff thing is not good for him. He's listening to the playoff at his desk and every 30 seconds he's like NO or GODDAMMMMMMIT or WHY WOULD YOU DO THAT or YOU'VE GOT TO BE SHITTING ME

I want to kill him rn

I love sports, I completely understand being engaged in yr team and rooting for them but the way he roots makes me fear that he is going to put his fist through something inanimate and it's kind of awkward to be around

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 11 October 2012 20:55 (eleven years ago) link

(no real concern over him doing this at his desk, that's not realy the rant - it's dead around here today, even the managers are stopping by his desk to check the scores, lol)

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 11 October 2012 20:57 (eleven years ago) link

i got the same guy working next to me except he hates sports. one of the best workers i've ever worked with but every time the phone rings or he get's an email it's panic in chaos city.

::phone rings:: Oh JEEZ ::exasperated sigh::

One of the partners could not log in to the scanner so my co-worker was entrusted to fix it. He went back and forth with the main office over THREE DAYS trying to get some resolution. As it turns out the partner was using the wrong login. It was entirely his fault. Co-worker almost died from stress.

ticks up my sleeve (brownie), Thursday, 11 October 2012 22:30 (eleven years ago) link

Partner: I expect you to "actively" pursue this problem.
Co-worker:

https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR6gVS1okhCz43Zzkz0U-8E6PFvBvqT_gRfPbmHav0KXfSfJr6h

ticks up my sleeve (brownie), Thursday, 11 October 2012 22:33 (eleven years ago) link

And people like that never apologise for being wrong either (cf my boss upthread)

Una Stubbs' Tears (Trayce), Thursday, 11 October 2012 23:10 (eleven years ago) link

I sit by the Town Crier Who's Always 24 Hours Behind. Today, I got to hear her go "Oh, no!" *heavy sigh* "Everyone, Alex Karras died."

pplains, Thursday, 11 October 2012 23:44 (eleven years ago) link

"Now, he was also a football player at one time, right?"

pplains, Thursday, 11 October 2012 23:45 (eleven years ago) link

*heavy sigh* is u&k

mookieproof, Thursday, 11 October 2012 23:58 (eleven years ago) link

Me, to bike messenger dispatcher: Hello, I was quoted a delivery time of 4:45 or sooner on a rush order, but so far no one has even picked it up. That firm may close early

Dispatcher: Well sir, it's only just 4:47 right now.

Right, so it should have been delivered by now, but the envelope is still here, and their office is going to close soon.

Okay, but what I'm saying is that it's just barely past 4:45. That's only two minutes, sir.

:-|

(*・_・)ノ⌒ ☆ (Je55e), Friday, 12 October 2012 22:39 (eleven years ago) link

oy

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 12 October 2012 22:40 (eleven years ago) link

Did you eventually make him realize he was stupid?

bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Saturday, 13 October 2012 00:16 (eleven years ago) link

She put me on hold to call the messenger just as he walked in the door. His phone rang after he left. The dispatcher told me, "It's en route. He said he picked it up five minutes ago."

Presumably he lied, but why would she - I just ???

(*・_・)ノ⌒ ☆ (Je55e), Saturday, 13 October 2012 03:16 (eleven years ago) link

There's a girl in my office who likes to pull the "lol I'm so dumb" card to attract attention to herself, like as in she frequently brags about being bad at spelling and pronouncing words; encourages people to give her "quizzes" so she can blatantly mangle words and collapse in a giggling fit while people tell her that she's "something else" or whatever; constantly comes into work with "oh man you're not gonna believe the dumb thing I did last night/this morning" stories; etc.

Anyway, yesterday she sent out an e-mail, then recalled it and resent it with words that were previously spelled correctly now misspelled. This morning I overheard her telling someone that she thought no one was able to read an e-mail if she recalled it.

trebek sajak (cwkiii), Friday, 26 October 2012 14:20 (eleven years ago) link

thqt's wierd.

make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Friday, 26 October 2012 14:24 (eleven years ago) link

i kown, rite?

trebek sajak (cwkiii), Friday, 26 October 2012 14:26 (eleven years ago) link

the "lol i'm so dumb" thing is the worst thing on earth

but the boo boyz are getting to (Z S), Friday, 26 October 2012 14:39 (eleven years ago) link

But he is very tightly wound and the slightest problem will make him yell loudly at his desk, or storm over to our cubicles and start ranting.

I work with a guy like this. It's like he's training for the Olympic 400m Exasperated Sigh.

We have a software system named after an explorer -- I'll call it Vespucci -- and he just yelled "FUCK YOU, VESPUCCI!"

5-Hour Enmity (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 26 October 2012 14:44 (eleven years ago) link

the "lol i'm so dumb" thing is the worst thing on earth

God yes.

carl agatha, Friday, 26 October 2012 15:18 (eleven years ago) link

I recommend the blunt emotionless approach. "Do you put on a dumb act to lower expectations of your performance?"

WilliamC, Friday, 26 October 2012 15:26 (eleven years ago) link

i guess it might be fun to have a dumboff dumbdown to highlight the absurdity of taking pride in being dumb and even using it to gain attention. just keep the conversation going, challenging her to bring herself to reach new dumb valleys. if you get stuck you can just stutter and then say "...I forgot the word THE! ahahahahhaha" to bring yourself back into the dumboff dumbdown. first one to lick the wall (for whatever reason) wins

but the boo boyz are getting to (Z S), Friday, 26 October 2012 15:40 (eleven years ago) link

Dumboff dumbdown sounds like a good idea but with my luck I'd end up getting way too into it and falling out the window or something.

trebek sajak (cwkiii), Friday, 26 October 2012 15:46 (eleven years ago) link

first one to lick the wall (for whatever reason) wins

hahahaha

WilliamC, Friday, 26 October 2012 15:53 (eleven years ago) link

it's possible that she once participated in a dumboff dumbdown in an ironic way, ended up winning, and then forgot that it was all an act

but the boo boyz are getting to (Z S), Friday, 26 October 2012 16:12 (eleven years ago) link

there's a dude on my team, nice enough guy, but he's fascistically positive like he's trying to force people to like him. "what's up rockin dude, how's your AWESOME day/?!?" "you're awesome, he's awesome, you're all AWESOME!!!" it's like if ned flanders merged with stuart smalley and became a used car salesman.

Spectrum, Friday, 26 October 2012 16:16 (eleven years ago) link

Those are usually the guys who sit alone on the commode at night, crying while holding a pistol to their temple.

pplains, Friday, 26 October 2012 16:23 (eleven years ago) link

oh we have a guy like that except it's like he has inner ear problems because he always shouts. The worst is waiting for the elevator in the lobby and you don't hear him coming. Without you even turning around he'll give you a boombing GOOD MORNING!!! HOW ARE YOU? as you jump 3 feet in the air and spend the next 10 minutes regaining composure.
He's scared the living crap out of me on countless occasions.
But it's like he's running for mayor. FABULOUS HOW ARE YOU? THAT'S FANTASTIC GREAT TO HEAR!! HAVE A TERRIFIC DAY!!!

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 26 October 2012 16:24 (eleven years ago) link

and pplains is 100% otm

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 26 October 2012 16:25 (eleven years ago) link

running for mayor's a good way to put it. wouldn't be surprised about the gun to temple thing. sometimes he'll let some dark things slip out, like "god I suck so much..." in the same cadence as his uhhh ... other effluences. whenever he's on the scene the room fills with this oppressive, phoney-sounding positivity. i just want to tell him "c'mon man, be real! we already like you."

Spectrum, Friday, 26 October 2012 16:39 (eleven years ago) link

Dear co-worker who sits half the office away from me: shut up. Shutupshutupshutupshutup shut the fuuuck upppppp. Shut up about X Factor. Shut up about your coffee mug. Shut up about the equality training video. Shut up about the film you were talking about yesterday. SHUT UPPPPPPPPP I AM TRYING TO WORK

kinder, Friday, 26 October 2012 17:04 (eleven years ago) link

nevermind, on further inspection, i do not like mayor of awesometown. may frankenstorm tear off the roof over his head and whisk him away to far off lands.

Spectrum, Friday, 26 October 2012 17:56 (eleven years ago) link

What happened?

(*・_・)ノ⌒ ☆ (Je55e), Friday, 26 October 2012 19:39 (eleven years ago) link

nothing new. i just thought that image was amusing and felt the need to share it.

Spectrum, Friday, 26 October 2012 20:52 (eleven years ago) link

Let's get Corner Bakery to cater our Thanksgiving / holiday party. Real high class behavior there. Guess we're not in the holiday spirit this year. I mean, it's the holiday, I find it hard to get excited about a "Spinach Crisp Salad". Whee.

Spectrum's dude

http://images.allmoviephoto.com/1999_Magnolia/1999_magnolia_034.jpg

qiqing, Monday, 29 October 2012 21:40 (eleven years ago) link

A company emailed us a some PDFs of personnel files and it seems like they worked really hard to make such a simple thing such a jumblefuck. It was a Russian nesting doll of emails within emails.

- There were 15 emails with subjects such as "Scan," "Scans," and "Scan file.

- Each and every one of those 15 emails contained up to 4 other emails as attachments, all with similarly ambiguous, redundant names

- FINALLY within those emails - 30-some of them - were the PDFs

(*・_・)ノ⌒ ☆ (Je55e), Monday, 29 October 2012 22:37 (eleven years ago) link

And

- The 30-some PDFs were named "Scan00001," "Scan00002," etc. Easy! Organized! Right?

- No! B/c they re-used the same names numerous times. lololol

This HR department has to produce a number files like this all them time....IDGI

(*・_・)ノ⌒ ☆ (Je55e), Monday, 29 October 2012 22:41 (eleven years ago) link

on average, nobody understands how to use computers

www.toilet-guru.com (silby), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 03:59 (eleven years ago) link

otm.

braying ass left to pursue a career in social research. curious lack of co-worker annoyance atm, likely means i'm it.

but with socks instead of football (darraghmac), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 09:43 (eleven years ago) link

OK, weird question, but it's coworker-related so here we go. Back in high school or whatever, someone told me that women who crossed their legs and bounced them up and down were essentially masturbating. How true is this? There is someone in my office who does this constantly through every meeting. I work in an office full of women, but only one person does this. How grossed out should I be? ILE, you decide!

how's life, Thursday, 1 November 2012 15:57 (eleven years ago) link

Is she bouncing them up and down like a showgirl? Maybe switch to 1/2 decaf in your office coffee.

I have no idea what your co-worker looks like, but if she weighs 300 pounds and wears a tent dress to work, it's not likely she's getting off on it! If she has hot dancer's legs, maybe!

it doesn't *have* to mean she's masturbating. 99% probability she's not and she's just got restless leg syndrome or is kinda hyperactive or just is nervous and hates being in meetings.

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 1 November 2012 16:06 (eleven years ago) link

These answers so far are reassuring. I can just be annoyed, rather than grossed out.

how's life, Thursday, 1 November 2012 16:10 (eleven years ago) link

pretty much

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 1 November 2012 16:12 (eleven years ago) link

I have sympathy for you, you may sound intolerant, but sometimes someone has a physical disorder they can't help....and some people are just annoying. Shit like that can send you to EAP or counseling really fast!

I have no idea what your co-worker looks like, but if she weighs 300 pounds and wears a tent dress to work, it's not likely she's getting off on it! If she has hot dancer's legs, maybe!

I can't work out how someone's looks/weight determines whether or not they masturbate.

oh shawx (onimo), Thursday, 1 November 2012 17:07 (eleven years ago) link

Uh...in public - at work?? I'm not saying heavy people are ugly - far from it, just that they might be less vain! I'm sorry but people who show off at work tend to be, uh..."hot" in the conventional sense of the term.

Thanks, omimo. I wondered too! I'm on the heavy side and perfectly capable of masturbating, though I rarely choose to do so at the office. Squeezing can be done without the legs to answer the original question - feels nice, but not particularly orgasmic. Perhaps I'm doing it wrong.

Question reminds me of buried childhood memory - gr7 band teacher used to squeeze his buttocks with the beat. So weird!

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Thursday, 1 November 2012 17:12 (eleven years ago) link

I mean, I just heard about this thing from like, a buddy in 10th grade history class or something, like it was a secret masturbation technique. Hadn't really questioned it but I also hadn't seen very many women do this since then. But then I noticed this coworker is doing this every time I see them.

And re: the hot thing, she is definitely not "hot" or trying consciously act sexy for our coworkers. Based on other information I know about her, she may have athletic legs.

how's life, Thursday, 1 November 2012 17:14 (eleven years ago) link

ffm, that's so gross.

how's life, Thursday, 1 November 2012 17:14 (eleven years ago) link

anyway the point is that apocryphal hearsay from high school isn't always factually based. cf: girls are physically unable to fart, etc.

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 1 November 2012 17:15 (eleven years ago) link

HL: totally get it. Funny. Obviously when you're aroused everything is a bit more sensitive & tingly & whatnot, but I feel in a workplace setting its unlikely the goal is getting rocks off..

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Thursday, 1 November 2012 17:16 (eleven years ago) link

ftr, the "gross" was in response to your band teacher.

how's life, Thursday, 1 November 2012 17:19 (eleven years ago) link

Haha, I figured. Mine was an xp.

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Thursday, 1 November 2012 17:20 (eleven years ago) link

My pet peeve is when someone keeps staring at me while I try to surreptitiously masturbate during meetings.

pplains, Thursday, 1 November 2012 17:20 (eleven years ago) link

Oh, wait. That's actually my favorite thing about my co-workers.

pplains, Thursday, 1 November 2012 17:20 (eleven years ago) link

working for penthouse forum has its positives

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 1 November 2012 17:21 (eleven years ago) link

But yeah, that's totally fucking insane, but I might have to try clenching my buttocks to the beat in private now, just to investigate what was going on there.

how's life, Thursday, 1 November 2012 17:22 (eleven years ago) link

Any song recommendations?

how's life, Thursday, 1 November 2012 17:23 (eleven years ago) link

Hmmm, can't remember what we played in class.. perhaps Ode to Joy? I was flute, in the front row to the side, so my friends & I had an excellent view of his pulsating buttocks.

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Thursday, 1 November 2012 17:45 (eleven years ago) link

It just seems so exhausting to keep clenching. But perhaps it will make my ass perkier. He was not creepy in any other way, at least.

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Thursday, 1 November 2012 17:45 (eleven years ago) link

Omg my 3rd grade teacher used to do a bum-wiggle when he conducted us in music lessons. I distinctly remember him doing it to 'Memory' from Cats

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 1 November 2012 17:46 (eleven years ago) link

But perhaps it will make my ass perkier

See, this is what I'm thinking!

how's life, Thursday, 1 November 2012 17:50 (eleven years ago) link

My ass, not yours, to clarify.

how's life, Thursday, 1 November 2012 17:50 (eleven years ago) link

should xpost this question to the thread of getting sw0le.

how's life, Thursday, 1 November 2012 17:52 (eleven years ago) link

Who couldn't use a slightly perkier ass? Why the hell not!

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Thursday, 1 November 2012 18:30 (eleven years ago) link

Uh...in public - at work?? I'm not saying heavy people are ugly - far from it, just that they might be less vain! I'm sorry but people who show off at work tend to be, uh..."hot" in the conventional sense of the term.

So, hot women with dancer's legs are more likely be vain, as demonstrated by... masturbating during in a work meeting? I thought your first comment was pretty offensive (tent dress? bite me) but now I just think you are a very strange person with a weird view of women.

PS women who cross their legs and jiggle them during meetings are not masturbating, regardless of their size, dress preferences, or the shape of their legs, unless you work at Adam and Eve.

carl agatha, Thursday, 1 November 2012 18:32 (eleven years ago) link

Thread got weird.

ENBB, Thursday, 1 November 2012 18:43 (eleven years ago) link

update on mayor awesome, he's now becoming the office nickname guy. first was me, and now another co-worker's down. i'm kinda curious to see where this goes.

Spectrum, Thursday, 1 November 2012 18:45 (eleven years ago) link

carl otm btw. I forgot to post how pissed off I was about the tent dresses bit. and weight/vanity correlation is just hilarious. I'll have you know I am +/-230 pounds and I look in the mirror ALL the time. And love what I see!

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Thursday, 1 November 2012 18:49 (eleven years ago) link

If you had an, um, normal body, you wouldn't jerk off in a work meeting. I mean, someone cruel might be there and make fun of you. I meant exactly the opposite of offense! If someone had a conventionally "hot" body, they might feel they could get away with it. I mean, it's obnoxious behavior, and who is going to take you to task if you're "hot"? No offense to women was intended.

What in the fuck are you talking about?

Una Stubbs' Tears (Trayce), Thursday, 1 November 2012 22:18 (eleven years ago) link

Are you actually implying some people would consider mastubating in front of work mates AT ALL, and that it is because they are good looking? I mean.. what the hell?

Una Stubbs' Tears (Trayce), Thursday, 1 November 2012 22:18 (eleven years ago) link

Isn't being made fun of the last thing you'd be worrying about if you were trying to surreptitiously masturbate in public what is this conversation even

Infamous dickbiscuits (silby), Thursday, 1 November 2012 22:45 (eleven years ago) link

I have no idea what we're talking about anymore but I think clarification is the *last* thing we need

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 1 November 2012 23:04 (eleven years ago) link

thread is something

pronounced darraghmac (darraghmac), Thursday, 1 November 2012 23:15 (eleven years ago) link

show of hands if we're all good on workplace masturbation for now

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 1 November 2012 23:17 (eleven years ago) link

uh i'm using one of mine right now gimme two mins

pronounced darraghmac (darraghmac), Thursday, 1 November 2012 23:17 (eleven years ago) link

grunt for yes, moan for nay

lol

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 1 November 2012 23:19 (eleven years ago) link

just to bring the tone up a bit, with ffm's description of the buttock-clenching teacher i had a bit of a brainfart and was imagining him with his arms behind him, one hand on each asscheek, rhythmically squeezing away. it was disturbing.

Perfect Chicken Forever (Merdeyeux), Thursday, 1 November 2012 23:26 (eleven years ago) link

squeeze your own butt cheeks together for undecided.

how's life, Thursday, 1 November 2012 23:27 (eleven years ago) link

xp omg.

how's life, Thursday, 1 November 2012 23:27 (eleven years ago) link

all like porking himself

how's life, Thursday, 1 November 2012 23:27 (eleven years ago) link

like that ace ventura scene where he makes his butt talk?

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 1 November 2012 23:27 (eleven years ago) link

YES. but symphonic butt is more impressive than mere talking butt.

Perfect Chicken Forever (Merdeyeux), Thursday, 1 November 2012 23:37 (eleven years ago) link

Holst's The Planets: Uranus.

ella fingerblast hurls forever (suzy), Thursday, 1 November 2012 23:37 (eleven years ago) link

Omg. No! :) that would have been infinitely more disturbing! Amazing visual. Holding the baton with his mouth? Hah.

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Thursday, 1 November 2012 23:43 (eleven years ago) link

lol

how's life, Thursday, 1 November 2012 23:52 (eleven years ago) link

what do you do when you've asked someone politely and nicely to do something relatively easy and sensible that is part of their job, and they continually fuck it up, most likely due to just incompetence rather than intent? i seriously don't even know... it becomes embarrassing to the point that it's like each time i raise it it's as if i'm going HI YOU'RE THICK, regardless of the wording.

Heterocyclic ring ring (LocalGarda), Friday, 2 November 2012 17:01 (eleven years ago) link

My brother complains about a guy exactly like this at his office, who's been there over a year and still has to ask him about the same things he has to do like every week. Just, yknow, write it down one time or something?

kinder, Friday, 2 November 2012 17:48 (eleven years ago) link

person in question is an image editor, and constantly labels images with the wrong date, or typos. it's like, how fucking hard is it to check the date? i just don't understand.

Heterocyclic ring ring (LocalGarda), Saturday, 3 November 2012 10:09 (eleven years ago) link

start the process to firing him, tbh

pronounced darraghmac (darraghmac), Saturday, 3 November 2012 11:25 (eleven years ago) link

she has literally JUST been hired, which makes it worse.

Heterocyclic ring ring (LocalGarda), Saturday, 3 November 2012 14:48 (eleven years ago) link

no it makes it much much better, because probationary period makes it a very easy process indeed

pronounced darraghmac (darraghmac), Saturday, 3 November 2012 16:20 (eleven years ago) link

Boss: Can you see if there is a problem with Verizon? X says she didn't get any of my texts and I've double-checked the number.
Me: That's her office number.
B: I know, and now she's not getting them for some reason.

Sure enough, there were numerous outgoing texts to a landline in her history.

(*・_・)ノ⌒ ☆ (Je55e), Tuesday, 6 November 2012 18:13 (eleven years ago) link

brayer has been replaced by a seth effrikken who says things like my display name all day

ut's nutta bull, ut's a *romanda* (darraghmac), Tuesday, 6 November 2012 18:14 (eleven years ago) link

What would he be trying to tell us if he said that?

(*・_・)ノ⌒ ☆ (Je55e), Tuesday, 6 November 2012 18:24 (eleven years ago) link

Ha seth effrikken

Get more vowel sounds, jerks!

carl agatha, Tuesday, 6 November 2012 18:27 (eleven years ago) link

it's not a bill, it's a reminder

ps it's a fucking bill btw, we sent 400k bills and it doesn't help to tell people they're anything else after an hour waiting on hold.

ut's nutta bull, ut's a *romanda* (darraghmac), Tuesday, 6 November 2012 18:36 (eleven years ago) link

Coworker across from me talks all day long. Any word we say gets commented on for 2-3 minutes of stream of consciousness comments. She just spent two minutes talking about mushrooms she has in her fridge because another coworker complained that she forgot to put mushrooms in the soup she'd made.

This woman is training me to do my new job! She showed me how to create a purchase order and was searching for a name in a 'vendor number' field and got frustrated and started to vent to me. I tried to suggest we might find the name if we highlighted the venderNAME field rather than vendorNO and she got ranty and started talking about how 'that will screw everything up,' naturally I waited til she went to the printer and sure enough, the name is in the vendor name field. SHOCKING.
6 weeks of training. YAY.

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Tuesday, 6 November 2012 18:37 (eleven years ago) link

People are so bad at computers, seriously.

purveyor of generations (in orbit), Tuesday, 6 November 2012 18:45 (eleven years ago) link

For real. But WHY? Things like what FFM talks about and shit my bosses fuck up problems that require VERY simple reasoning that has ultimately has nothing to do w/ computers. If that person were searching through papers for a vendor's, would she for it look in the space where vendors' numbers go?

If my boss were trying to access a folder of papers in a file cabinet, would she use the handle to open the drawer all the way, or would she notice that it had a hole in the side and pull documents out that way for years and years?

(*・_・)ノ⌒ ☆ (Je55e), Tuesday, 6 November 2012 23:24 (eleven years ago) link

They're good enough analogies.

(*・_・)ノ⌒ ☆ (Je55e), Tuesday, 6 November 2012 23:24 (eleven years ago) link

They work. This lady is nuts. Often pleasant, but I truly dislike when stressed people rage on others. Or dismiss me - a very tech savvy person - because I'm new to something they're good at. It's a computer problem lady, I got this.

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Wednesday, 7 November 2012 01:51 (eleven years ago) link

For real. But WHY? Things like what FFM talks about and shit my bosses fuck up problems that require VERY simple reasoning that has ultimately has nothing to do w/ computers.

Yes! Or when you show people how to copy files from a USB stick which appears as drive E to drive C, and that's fine, they remember that, they do it every few days with no problem. And a month later they put a new USB stick in and it appears as drive F and you say, OK, it's showing up as drive F in "My Computer" so you can just go into that and drag the files in the same way and they freeze up and tell you they don't know how and what the hell do you even mean because it's completely different.

I can't think of a work-related analogy for the analogy collection but uhh it's like they can't get the number 20 bus because they've only travelled on the number 15 bus before and the same concept of getting on the bus and saying their destination to the driver doesn't occur to them. Or something.

a panda, Malmö (a passing spacecadet), Wednesday, 7 November 2012 11:48 (eleven years ago) link

standard enough 'learn by rote, trust the process, lose yr shit when anything changes' kind of situation.

It's just, like, how are these ppl the BOSS?

ut's nutta bull, ut's a *romanda* (darraghmac), Wednesday, 7 November 2012 12:04 (eleven years ago) link

Because nobody would keep them as employees so they had to start their own businesses.

carl agatha, Wednesday, 7 November 2012 13:28 (eleven years ago) link

Kicked upstairs to management?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dilbert_principle

companies tend to systematically promote their least-competent employees to management (generally middle management), in order to limit the amount of damage they are capable of doing.

Huey Lewisies & The Newsie-Wewsies (snoball), Wednesday, 7 November 2012 14:36 (eleven years ago) link

i gotta start workin on my incompetence, i figured it would have shone through by now but clearly i'm hiding my shite under a bushel

ut's nutta bull, ut's a *romanda* (darraghmac), Wednesday, 7 November 2012 14:47 (eleven years ago) link

Because nobody would keep them as employees so they had to start their own businesses.

DING DING DING

just1n3, Wednesday, 7 November 2012 15:15 (eleven years ago) link


Yes! Or when you show people how to copy files from a USB stick which appears as drive E to drive C, and that's fine, they remember that, they do it every few days with no problem. And a month later they put a new USB stick in and it appears as drive F and you say, OK, it's showing up as drive F in "My Computer" so you can just go into that and drag the files in the same way and they freeze up and tell you they don't know how and what the hell do you even mean because it's completely different.

I can't think of a work-related analogy for the analogy collection but uhh it's like they can't get the number 20 bus because they've only travelled on the number 15 bus before and the same concept of getting on the bus and saying their destination to the driver doesn't occur to them. Or something.

Yes! These comparisons are really helpful. It's just so frustrating. My bosses do good lawyering (judging by results and reputation) and I don't think they're dumb, but they just can't generalize for shit.

The other thing they do that makes me nuts is letting one computer (or phone, copier, etc) glitch or mistake wipe out years of ability and understanding. Eg: boss knows how to change color of text in a Word document. One day something actually legitimately goes wrong and we can't just highlight red text and select change text and I help her (or him). Fine. Except after then, they blot out their capabilities to change colors and they start asking, "Can you show me again how you change letters to red?" Which, as I said, they used to do just fine before.

Or "undo" Word and Excel. Lets say hey know how to undo deleting text and they know how to undo italicizing words (click the Undo button). But they DO NOT know how to undo bold-facing. Even though its the exact. Same. Thing.

(*・_・)ノ⌒ ☆ (Je55e), Wednesday, 7 November 2012 21:12 (eleven years ago) link

Like, how deep does this all go? Will they forget how to smoke b/c they knew how to light cigarettes before, but the new ones are from a different pack?

(*・_・)ノ⌒ ☆ (Je55e), Wednesday, 7 November 2012 21:19 (eleven years ago) link

Maybe a driving analogy would work better.

(*・_・)ノ⌒ ☆ (Je55e), Wednesday, 7 November 2012 21:19 (eleven years ago) link

Holy crap, the woman who works across from me (who I like) has just revealed herself as a right-wing crank. One of my other co-workers, a known rabid righty, was ranting about the election results (with a smile on his face, it wasn't like he was getting all shouty and jabbing people in the sternum with a forefinger or anything) and this woman was agreeing with him, talking about how liberty is dead in America, our children will never know what it was like to be free, blah blah blah, and I thought she was just winding him up, but then I overheard her on the phone with someone else later and she was saying all the same stuff, and grumbling about how pro-Obama the office is! She's really nice and easy to work with, so I guess I'll be overlooking this side of her, but still - unexpected.

誤訳侮辱, Wednesday, 7 November 2012 21:37 (eleven years ago) link

is it really unexpected that someone who isn't a dick might have different political opinions from you?

congratulations (n/a), Wednesday, 7 November 2012 21:40 (eleven years ago) link

It's unexpected that someone who works for a record label in NYC would be a hardcore Republican.

誤訳侮辱, Wednesday, 7 November 2012 22:39 (eleven years ago) link

i have avoided threads like this ... but no more.

for reason most folks know, i had to take a few months off work.

so, imagine my distress when upon my return a few weeks ago my lovely neighbour had been replaced with a loud mouthed, excessive shyte spouting monster.

fuck.

its making the daily grind all the more hellish.

i mean for ages i struggled with the issue whether i should make the effort to go back, and then after a lot of soul searching i find this new barrier to peace and harmony.

i totally accept my current troubles are nothing in comparison, but damn, i cant escape the non-stop loud mouth shit.

arghhhhhhhhhhhh.

now, just where is that box of wine ..

mark e, Wednesday, 7 November 2012 22:50 (eleven years ago) link

It's unexpected that someone who works for a record label in NYC would be a hardcore Republican.

Depends on how big the label is, I guess.

Your Favorite Album in the Cutout Bin, Wednesday, 7 November 2012 22:54 (eleven years ago) link

xpost 3rd draw down under the shoebox, behind the box of staples

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 7 November 2012 22:55 (eleven years ago) link

*drawer

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 7 November 2012 22:55 (eleven years ago) link

Dear co-worker who sits half the office away from me: shut up. Shutupshutupshutupshutup shut the fuuuck upppppp. Shut up about X Factor. Shut up about your coffee mug. Shut up about the equality training video. Shut up about the film you were talking about yesterday. SHUT UPPPPPPPPP I AM TRYING TO WORK

She's actually leaving next week! This thread gets results!

kinder, Wednesday, 7 November 2012 23:29 (eleven years ago) link

lucky you kinder.

mark e, Wednesday, 7 November 2012 23:39 (eleven years ago) link

I have a really nice co-worker who I like, but she does seem to vocalise every thought she has, usually as questions which are directed to herself but which sound as though she's asking the office at large. I work almost entirely under headphones with music now, which I worry makes me look bad, but it's the only way to concentrate.

ornamental cabbage (James Morrison), Thursday, 8 November 2012 01:26 (eleven years ago) link

I do that :( I am aware it annoys ppl haha oh dear.

Una Stubbs' Tears (Trayce), Thursday, 8 November 2012 02:34 (eleven years ago) link

I'm like Bernard Black, I'm always spluttering "what... WHAT!!?" at my screen.

Una Stubbs' Tears (Trayce), Thursday, 8 November 2012 02:34 (eleven years ago) link

ps i'm supervisory now, why the fuck don't underlings LISTEN

ut's nutta bull, ut's a *romanda* (darraghmac), Thursday, 8 November 2012 11:32 (eleven years ago) link

cos they don't care

Heterocyclic ring ring (LocalGarda), Thursday, 8 November 2012 11:51 (eleven years ago) link

don't even bother with them

Heterocyclic ring ring (LocalGarda), Thursday, 8 November 2012 11:52 (eleven years ago) link

i have to, they do all the shit i won't fuckin touch anymore, cos i'm above that now

ut's nutta bull, ut's a *romanda* (darraghmac), Thursday, 8 November 2012 11:53 (eleven years ago) link

focus on the good ones, let the weak starve and die.

Heterocyclic ring ring (LocalGarda), Thursday, 8 November 2012 11:54 (eleven years ago) link

or actually get fat and thrive. i can't tell who's winning this war.

Heterocyclic ring ring (LocalGarda), Thursday, 8 November 2012 11:54 (eleven years ago) link

public sector, but then they're all temp agency, there's no clear lines. I feel like the robot in prometheus.

ut's nutta bull, ut's a *romanda* (darraghmac), Thursday, 8 November 2012 12:01 (eleven years ago) link

kinder to let them die. Cleaner. Tests better with the public, certainly.

ut's nutta bull, ut's a *romanda* (darraghmac), Thursday, 8 November 2012 12:03 (eleven years ago) link

ps i'm supervisory now, why the fuck don't underlings LISTEN

― ut's nutta bull, ut's a *romanda* (darraghmac), Thursday, 8 November 2012 11:32 (28 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

why do they take a week-and-a-half to tell you they did everything on the first day and now they're bored?

thomasintrouble, Thursday, 8 November 2012 12:03 (eleven years ago) link

cos it's nice to be paid to get sliwly bored, once threshold of boredom vs novelty of idleness aporoaches 1, inform supervisor

ut's nutta bull, ut's a *romanda* (darraghmac), Thursday, 8 November 2012 12:10 (eleven years ago) link

kinder to let them die. Cleaner. Tests better with the public, certainly

I'm on it, boss

kinder, Thursday, 8 November 2012 12:58 (eleven years ago) link

that's the spirit. Fifty kills earns you a half day, not to be taken friday pm or monday am obv

threat of the author (darraghmac), Thursday, 8 November 2012 13:03 (eleven years ago) link

omfg you guys
as we all know I am the Positivity Patrol - and more insufferably cheery in real life
Email sent out that my current/former manager will be covering some of my work while a replacement is found for me.
Manager writes to me directly telling me no, she won't be doing that, no one did it for her and if I want this promotion I have to work for it! Meanwhile I have not asked her for even a second of help, have been staying late covering everything, smiling and trying to help everyone as always..
While I am dealing with those emails - where there is implication she's worked her ass off and I never have (oh really) the woman meant to train me to do my new job starts ranting about something angrily and I said something like "okay, well let's not start our day with such stress" and she explodes and tells me she won't ever talk to me anymore and all this petty bullshit, storms off and closes the door to talk to my new boss..
Fuck all of you children! We are adults, act like it! I let a few stress tears out and now my eyes are all glossy and my head hurts and honestly, fuck this day.

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Thursday, 8 November 2012 14:59 (eleven years ago) link

(I should clarify - I did not send out an email saying manager would cover my work. The VP did, no notice to either of us. And my manager rejected outright the few resumes I could scrounge up for the position, because she "doesn't want to teach someone Excel." YOU MADE YOUR BED, LADY.)

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Thursday, 8 November 2012 15:01 (eleven years ago) link

arah, fuck them. Go to VP

threat of the author (darraghmac), Thursday, 8 November 2012 15:02 (eleven years ago) link

I stopped replying to 'poor me' emails and put my headphones on so that I don't have to hear ranting woman. To complicate this, I face the ranter. Luckily my screen is at an angle. I intended to send out all my 'old' job work this week anyway, so my plan is to do that and let the VP ask me why, at which point I will direct her to talk to my former manager. I'm not letting myself get dragged into this shit and destroying my reputation as being a hardworking non-asshole. I'm very proud that I've become this person, because I used to be Angry McBlamey once upon a time.

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Thursday, 8 November 2012 15:10 (eleven years ago) link

Go to VP full of positivity and humor: "oh, our silly precious cow orkers." I can't do that myself, but that shit always works.

Three Word Username, Thursday, 8 November 2012 15:32 (eleven years ago) link

hah, tempting. Sadly, I don't have that rapport with the VP. We're not on bad terms but not close either. I'm just going to be awesome and let the other bastards feel embarassed for being unable to be as awesome as me. Thanks for listening, y'all. Kinda wish I could just go crawl in bed for this stupid day!

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Thursday, 8 November 2012 15:42 (eleven years ago) link

The smacker told me again yesterday that my butt looked good in my jeans. She's obsesses with me ass. Shit's getting weird.

ENBB, Thursday, 8 November 2012 15:43 (eleven years ago) link

lol - She's obsesses with me ass.

oops

She's obsessed with my ass. Sorry. I'm working on very little sleep here. Cut me some slack.

ENBB, Thursday, 8 November 2012 15:44 (eleven years ago) link

no problem, sugar buns.

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 8 November 2012 15:48 (eleven years ago) link

I bitched about accidentally a cover of Born Slippy rather than the actual song and same former manager detailed upthread emailed me the copy of the mp3 she keeps on her work computer. Ups and downs. Perhaps the positivity patrol did its damn job. Though she still won't! Nyuk.

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Thursday, 8 November 2012 16:11 (eleven years ago) link

hahaha I accidentally'd a!

..accidentally *downloading from iTunes* a cover..

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Thursday, 8 November 2012 16:11 (eleven years ago) link

FFM that sucks very badly but having met you, I am pretty confident that your plan is going to succeed.

ljubljana, Thursday, 8 November 2012 16:13 (eleven years ago) link

thank you! It seems to be working. Everyone is being quiet and polite. #EvilGenius

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Thursday, 8 November 2012 16:35 (eleven years ago) link

I have voicemail at work and my voicemail message says my name, my title, and my company. I invite people to leave a message and suggest that if they believe there is an emergency, they should contact my assistant. So why would someone call at 10 pm and leave a message talking about not going to be able to pick up somebody from somewhere that is completely unrelated to my job or my company? And not leave a callback number, because I am really nice and usually call people back and tell them they had the wrong number if it sounds important?

carl agatha, Monday, 12 November 2012 14:11 (eleven years ago) link

OK so, I work for Firm A which used to be part of Firm X, and the two share office space, and they also share me.

Last week, Firm X got new MS Word letterhead templates, but I did not receive one w/ my info. Today I'm told that there was no mistake, but Mr. X - infamous dipshit with beef with my boss Ms. A - decided that since I'm not X's direct employee, no letterhead for me.

I asked, what should I write correspondence on? Mr. X decides they will create a template with no sender's info and I am to write in my info.....

So my letters will go with my info awkwardly slapped on in the margin, projecting an image of Firm X's pettiness and jacked-uppedness.

(*・_・)ノ⌒ ☆ (Je55e), Friday, 16 November 2012 21:03 (eleven years ago) link

Oh my holy shit it's a TEMPLATE. It's not even printed stationery that they have to PAY for!!! That is the pettiest thing imaginable!

grossly incorrect register (in orbit), Friday, 16 November 2012 21:05 (eleven years ago) link

oh ffs

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 16 November 2012 21:24 (eleven years ago) link

that is pathetic, je55e. I hate him on your behalf

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 16 November 2012 21:24 (eleven years ago) link

Yeh, he's a dumbass. His beef is due to thinking "Ms. A" poached me when the firms split. So in revenge, he has his firm send out shitty looking letters.

The good part is that I billed his firm for the time it took to figure out the letterhead problem.

(*・_・)ノ⌒ ☆ (Je55e), Saturday, 17 November 2012 00:10 (eleven years ago) link

Dear SAC-W,
Yes, I know that the targets system for our job is often unfair and unrealistic but (a) if you want to try and game the system then at least come up with a method that makes sense and will work, & (b) please stop trying to drag me into your above-mentioned poorly-thought-out plan. Thank you.

Hard Normal Showaddywaddy (Mr Andy M), Saturday, 17 November 2012 19:05 (eleven years ago) link

A boss in the other department has gripes about people smoking, women wearing too much make-up, and use of social networking or bulletin boards, even if it is on break or work time. Too bad for him he is not my immediate supervisor. I just worry about the bitchy attitude he brings to work every day - is it going to be toxic.

I mean, I work really hard for low pay, even telecommuting and stay at home a lot working extra hours cleaning up old records and databases whether I get compensated or not. This guy is brand new and knows nothing about what we do.

We access a certain telco carrier's web portal by having web browser certificates installed that allow said access. I just 2 weeks ago went over them with the support team lead to show her how to add permissions to various people's certs, which she did, using the head certificate which she had on her PC. She's always been the one who adds new people when staff start, etc

Today she's asking me, where are the certs stored, and can I see who we have listed with one, and how do we add people? I'm like... seriously woman? We just went over this not long ago and you've always done it and you're asking me? Did you have a stroke or something!? :/

Una Stubbs' Tears (Trayce), Monday, 19 November 2012 07:41 (eleven years ago) link

We had a staff member tragically die like four years ago and to this day some people don't give a crap. I mean, I don't know how much longer I can take the repressive white Protestant culture here. No funeral leave or anything.

Also some of our newer staff are so incompetent that what should take an hour or two hours takes them eight, nine, ten hours.

Lady With Kathy Griffin Voice just said "Twinkies are supposed to last through the Holocaust because of all the preservatives."

xanthanguar (cwkiii), Monday, 19 November 2012 14:53 (eleven years ago) link

Believe me, they don't. I had some cereal that lasted two weeks and was nasty. Why do dogs love old bread?

I've really tried to be more patient with stupid, annoying coworkers recently, but these girls are testing my patience right now. We have four girls, all in their late 20s, that went to college together and have known each other for awhile. Which is fine, but recently they've turned into a group of 14 year-olds, huddled around one desk whispering and giggling. It's fucking unprofessional and disturbing to see grown-ups acting like little kids.

HAPPY BDAY TOOTS (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 20 November 2012 14:50 (eleven years ago) link

I feel your pain. I am astounded by how much of this I have to put up with every single day.

xanthanguar (cwkiii), Tuesday, 20 November 2012 15:44 (eleven years ago) link

Unprofessional and astounding - surprising to me, sadly no. Like I said elsewhere, it is rude and callous of people to expect perks and freebies when they haven't made an effort to establish trust. Like, just being from a certain town or going to a certain high school isn't going to cut it.

Anyway, that's capitalism and nice people don't always make the rules. A lot of people's ideas about "job qualifications" are stuff like, "who has the hottest ass" or "who screwed the quarterback" when they were in high school.

I try to seek jobs where I don't have to deal with that type, but when I come home I get lectures about how I'm "too sensitive" and that I have to adjust to the "real world".

Person in office managed somehow to hole punch angrily this morning. Sounded like she threw the machine on the ground 15 times in a row. CRASH! BOOM!

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Tuesday, 20 November 2012 20:02 (eleven years ago) link

Someone should make a hole punch with a greetings card type chip in it that says "OW!" every time it's used.

Dermot O'Leary, picks up the rice in a church where a wedding has been (snoball), Tuesday, 20 November 2012 20:09 (eleven years ago) link

I would love that!

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Tuesday, 20 November 2012 20:11 (eleven years ago) link

, but when I come home I get lectures about how I'm "too sensitive" and that I have to adjust to the "real world".

From who?

( ͡° ͜ʖ͡°) (sic), Tuesday, 20 November 2012 21:12 (eleven years ago) link

parents, i assume?

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 20 November 2012 21:21 (eleven years ago) link

heh

Una Stubbs' Tears (Trayce), Tuesday, 20 November 2012 22:37 (eleven years ago) link

Dear men,

I understand that you have to have a five foot wide umbrella with a 6" eye-gouging spike on the end, otherwise people might say, "That guy has an umbrella. How effeminate! You wouldn't see Genghis Khan with an umbrella, unless it was a massive golf umbrella with a spike on the end, of course." But is there no better place for your umbrella than sat fully expanded on the floor half-blocking the doorway and the entrance to my desk all day?

(There are TWO of these littering the floor in this office and there are only 5 people in today! I think I'm going to turn into one of those people who bleats about it being BAD LUCK to have an umbrella open indoors, just to have an apparently socially acceptable way to register my displeasure.)

a panda, Malmö (a passing spacecadet), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 11:46 (eleven years ago) link

The most socially acceptable way to handle this is to accidentally step on both umbrellas, preferably at the same time.

xanthanguar (cwkiii), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 14:51 (eleven years ago) link

Not really bitching here but for almost two months I've been using a drawer full of pens that this office's previous occupant had chewed on like a teething puppy bc I still have job PTSD and at my old job, you had to hoard your office supplies if you could manage to find any at all.

Anyway, I just threw out all the chewed on pens and got a handful of new ones from the (unlocked, readily accessible, unmonitored) supply closet and I feel much better about my life.

carl agatha, Wednesday, 21 November 2012 15:58 (eleven years ago) link

I am a pen-chewer but I would never foist my teething pens on others.

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 16:01 (eleven years ago) link

I don't think this was foisted so much as left behind. I have no idea how long this office was vacant before I came along so these could be ancient artifacts of oral fixation.

carl agatha, Wednesday, 21 November 2012 16:07 (eleven years ago) link

yeah but still, pen chewers should have enough shame to discard the evidence of their oral fixations

imo

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 16:09 (eleven years ago) link

can't take electro-swing and dubstep anymore.

Van Horn Street, Wednesday, 21 November 2012 16:10 (eleven years ago) link

Someone please record an album called ancient artifacts of oral fixation.

xanthanguar (cwkiii), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 16:12 (eleven years ago) link

Has anyone else noticed that jock types chew on shit like pen caps and straws? Or am I just imagining that? I definitely recall jocks in high school and college with whole straws or pen caps in their mouths. Repulsive, yet charming/hot b/c they're like dumb puppies.

(*・_・)ノ⌒ ☆ (Je55e), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 17:07 (eleven years ago) link

most chewers i know are girls.

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 17:22 (eleven years ago) link

I'll have you know that I am a LADY goddammit

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 17:37 (eleven years ago) link

So much more not my jobitis going around.. I could've run a few of my 'old job' reports in the time it's taken this week to discuss how to do the bare minimum of the reports because there isn't enough time 0_o I offered to take them home and do them on my downtime if they'd cut me a cheque ;)

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 21:08 (eleven years ago) link

I hate it when condescension and rudeness are juuuuust low-level enough that I can't respond.

ljubljana, Wednesday, 21 November 2012 21:35 (eleven years ago) link

ARGH ARGH ARGH ARGH ARGH ARGH argh

whinesplaining 101 (cozen), Friday, 23 November 2012 17:41 (eleven years ago) link

do you mind? i'm trying to work here.

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 23 November 2012 19:03 (eleven years ago) link

I've been here barely half an hour and Kathy Griffin Voice has already burst into laughter followed by a sighing "ohhhhh that's funny" at least twenty times.

Extra annoying because it's in response to whatever she's listening to on her headphones.

xanthanguar (cwkiii), Thursday, 29 November 2012 14:08 (eleven years ago) link

I used to chew pens. Disgusting, I know, but as I am not a repressed WASP Protestant type I didn't find it "shameful". Probably nerves or something. I worked in a very stressful place.

I got some education and class and grew out of it. So glad I work in a less annoying environment and basically edit high class stuff like English literature.

She just said "There ya' goHAHAHAHA...thatttt's funny"

xanthanguar (cwkiii), Thursday, 29 November 2012 14:18 (eleven years ago) link

captain awesome in response to eating a cookie someone gave him: "wow, this is so awesome! like the best I've ever had! so good, oh my god. yum yum! thank you so much!!! it was so delicious!" it sounded very fake, like if she had given him a cookie soaked in vinegar he'd have said the same thing. seems like an alright dude, but that shit irritates me. i do not get why people like that stuff -- are they dumb or something?

Spectrum, Thursday, 29 November 2012 18:40 (eleven years ago) link

He's lonely! Plus what pplains said about the crying and the gun-holding. I don't know, people like that are very annoying but also kinda sad.

xanthanguar (cwkiii), Thursday, 29 November 2012 19:16 (eleven years ago) link

fair enough if that's the case, i guess it'd be like if gil from the simpsons found a place where he could sell his shit. whenever he lets all that hot air out it's like a toxic gas cloud gathering around my soul. nicotine withdrawal prob isn't helping.

Spectrum, Thursday, 29 November 2012 19:41 (eleven years ago) link

ah this dude isn't so bad, he's good to goof around with. i told him i was going to call him "awesome (name)" and it ended up in a tim and eric reference that he caught.

Spectrum, Thursday, 29 November 2012 20:43 (eleven years ago) link

How many times will my boss get frustrated b/c she doesn't get that a PDF, though it contains words and looks just like a Word document, does not work like a Word document, and making an exact facsimile of it in Word is not accomplished with a single keystroke? We've been through this - OCR is quick, but formatting and correcting misreads takes time.

She wants to redline a 12 page contract that is full of fussy formatted lists, which contract we received only in hard copy, so she asked me to make it a Word document. There is no reason we would not ask the opposing attorney for a copy of the contract in Word, but my boss said, "Why go through the trouble of asking her for it in Word and waiting for it when you can just use Adobe [sigh] to turn it into Word?"

(*・_・)ノ⌒ ☆ (Je55e), Friday, 30 November 2012 15:36 (eleven years ago) link

Every time it's the same: I tell her what makes the process time-consuming (and tedious) and she complains about "Adobe" turning out a pretty piddly product if it can't even make a simple document edit-able.

(*・_・)ノ⌒ ☆ (Je55e), Friday, 30 November 2012 15:48 (eleven years ago) link

horrible job, I've been in a situation of having to strip formatting from a PDF to turn it into a "plain" Word doc, it takes bloody ages.

Neil S, Friday, 30 November 2012 15:48 (eleven years ago) link

get away from that thermostat

get away from it

get awaaaaaay

get

*gives up talking, bounds from chair and chases this sleeveless moron around the place on all fours*

bill paxman (darraghmac), Friday, 30 November 2012 16:07 (eleven years ago) link

imma start leaving fuckin MOUSETRAPS scattered round the fuckin thing

bill paxman (darraghmac), Friday, 30 November 2012 16:09 (eleven years ago) link

27 degrees celsius you fuckin animal, do you not get how this works, this 'dressing like an adult, going to work in an office with adults' gig, until you sign a note confirming you understand the difference between 'beach in barbados in july' and 'dublin 7 in november' you don't get to do shit about the temperature in the office

you fuckin clownish clown

bill paxman (darraghmac), Friday, 30 November 2012 16:17 (eleven years ago) link

darragh plz chase him on all fours

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 30 November 2012 17:25 (eleven years ago) link

and i am sitting here wearing my winter coat at my desk.

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 30 November 2012 18:48 (eleven years ago) link

Our gas bills are astronomical so buying a couple of space heaters is mandatory.

I gave up on central heating a million years ago.

Reading out your emails to the open plan office at high volume in a sarcastic tone of voice is not a good way to start the week.

Neil S, Monday, 3 December 2012 09:45 (eleven years ago) link

Why does my boss not do things/ask me not to do things that cost nothing, take no time, could only be good, and would hurt nothing and no one?? E.g.: She receives an email w/ bunch a of documents that may or may not be relevant to a certain case. If I ask her if she's saved them, she says, No, I don't know if we'll need them. It's not like we're short on disk space! Just save them in the special folder called Unsorted Documents! Why would you NOT DO THAT?

If she were anyone else, I'd say she was asserting her authority by shooting down my suggestions, but that's absolutely not her way, so idk.

(*・_・)ノ⌒ ☆ (Je55e), Friday, 7 December 2012 19:54 (eleven years ago) link

Another e.g. - My other boss wanted me and our associate atty. to become notaries. The cost was virtually nothing and the application takes 5 minutes, and bam! your notary commission is on its way. But she decided that it wasn't important that we be notaries b/c, "Electronic verification is taking over, so notarizing is going to be a thing of the past, soon." Well, it's a good thing we dodged that bullet of having notary power that might one day become obsolete.

(*・_・)ノ⌒ ☆ (Je55e), Friday, 7 December 2012 20:01 (eleven years ago) link

wrt the first thing, I get annoyed at coworkers that save everything, to the effect that they have so much stuff on their PC that they can't find the things that were worth saving.

nickn, Friday, 7 December 2012 20:56 (eleven years ago) link

i save everything but I am EXCELLENT at filing, so I have nice clear categories for p much everything.

but I also worked for a customer that was notorious for dragging up issues from years previous, and trying to catch us out on stuff that they had screwed up themselves.

the joy of being a person who saves everything AND can find said saved materials is responding to those kinds of queries with a 'see attached email from 2005 which contradicts everything you just said. have a nice day, love VG.'

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 7 December 2012 20:59 (eleven years ago) link

i love doing that so much, I can't even tell you

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 7 December 2012 21:00 (eleven years ago) link

BOOM

READ IT AND WEEP SUCKA

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 7 December 2012 21:01 (eleven years ago) link

<drops mouse>

nickn, Friday, 7 December 2012 21:03 (eleven years ago) link

I'm talking about documents that have a decent chance of being relevant - case file materials! I mean, what bugged me today was that she needed a motion in a case we came in on as co-counsel for a particular purpose. She had received it in an email with other pleadings, but she didn't save any of them because she didn't know if they would be relevant to our work. There were maybe 10 PDFs, 50-some pages, maybe - what did she think would happen if she saved them and then we didn't need them?

(*・_・)ノ⌒ ☆ (Je55e), Saturday, 8 December 2012 00:00 (eleven years ago) link

Anyway, I like her, and she is overall a good employer, but working in this tiny firm is like spending 40 hours a week with your family.

To bitch about someone I really do NOT like: Former opposing counsel was a skeeeeezy hack who, we found out, tried to file a court order. A party can't ~file~ a court order - you have to petition the court for whatever you want, and the judge can decide to enter an order. But this guy hand-wrote a 3 page order with decisions on some child custody issues, file-stamped it at the self-serve desk, and tried to pass it off as a court order. Who thinks they can get away with this?? It was as hilarious as it was infuriating.

(*・_・)ノ⌒ ☆ (Je55e), Saturday, 8 December 2012 00:22 (eleven years ago) link

the joy of being a person who saves everything AND can find said saved materials is responding to those kinds of queries with a 'see attached email from 2005 which contradicts everything you just said. have a nice day, love VG.'

MMEEE TOOOO. In fact Ive even done this to bosses, ohhh boy they hate being showed up as wrong. "WHY WASNT I TOLD ABOUT THIS" "oh but you were, dEar sir, here BAM"

Una Stubbs' Tears (Trayce), Saturday, 8 December 2012 04:13 (eleven years ago) link

the

BEST

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 8 December 2012 05:01 (eleven years ago) link

Well its the best unless its my current ass of a boss, who even when presented with evidence, just lies to yr face/tells you yr wrong/tells you to shut up and do what he asked.

Then repeatedly re-asks for the same things we already did for him.

/kif sigh

Una Stubbs' Tears (Trayce), Saturday, 8 December 2012 05:43 (eleven years ago) link

Say it's lunchtime and you're waiting for the food I'd already put into the microwave to finish while I'm currently in my cubicle. And when it does, do you wait for me to come from my cubicle to the break room -- literally 20 steps away -- or do you take my food out yourself? And when I come running in saying, "Please don't touch that" (I'm a germophobe), do you stare me down darkly, and say, "YOU SHOULDN'T MAKE PEOPLE MAD"?

Keep in mind, when you use the restroom, you don't wash your hands.

I was in this prematureleee air-conditioned supermarket (Leee), Saturday, 8 December 2012 19:31 (eleven years ago) link

i would just eat yr food with my hands :D

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 8 December 2012 19:33 (eleven years ago) link

I want a new mutual adoptee.

I was in this prematureleee air-conditioned supermarket (Leee), Saturday, 8 December 2012 19:39 (eleven years ago) link

;_;

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 8 December 2012 19:42 (eleven years ago) link

How long was the microwave set for? How much work could you get done while lunch was heating? Walking away from your microwaving food and relying on someone to come get you has always been NAGL in every place I've worked, but the main one of those was a warehouse with a lot of employees, most of whom only had a 30-minute lunch break. And your phobias are not your co-workers' problem.

WilliamC, Saturday, 8 December 2012 19:46 (eleven years ago) link

85 seconds. Seriously, it would've taken me less than 10 seconds to hear the microwave beep (it's within hearing range, obviously) and to walk over.

I was in this prematureleee air-conditioned supermarket (Leee), Saturday, 8 December 2012 20:08 (eleven years ago) link

I think it's not cool to take it out without waiting 30 seconds first, but going back to your desk if it needs less than 2 minutes seems odd to me too

but then both feelings come from having the luxury of being in a job and a country where it's generally ok to take time for lunch, so I guess this doesn't necessarily translate (and my sympathies to anyone who does not get that luxury)

a panda, Malmö (a passing spacecadet), Saturday, 8 December 2012 20:44 (eleven years ago) link

Why does this professional psychologist not have the ability to open Word files? Or Word Perfect or Open Office?? Instead of editing her own affidavits, she prints the PDFs we send her, hand writes edits, and scans and emails them back to us. This is not reasonable!

(*・_・)ノ⌒ ☆ (Je55e), Saturday, 8 December 2012 22:04 (eleven years ago) link

And why am I reading my work email on Saturday.

(*・_・)ノ⌒ ☆ (Je55e), Saturday, 8 December 2012 22:12 (eleven years ago) link

And she can't open PDFs either!?

(*・_・)ノ⌒ ☆ (Je55e), Monday, 10 December 2012 16:21 (eleven years ago) link

If you leave food in the micro and walk away, I figure you're lucky if it's even sitting on the counter waiting for you when you come back. I say this in high dudgeon since I work on a floor with only 3 microwaves for like 100 ppl.

grossly incorrect register (in orbit), Monday, 10 December 2012 16:26 (eleven years ago) link

Yeh, you leave your food in the microwave, it's gonna get touched, and that's reasonable.

(*・_・)ノ⌒ ☆ (Je55e), Monday, 10 December 2012 16:32 (eleven years ago) link

food touched touched, or the dish was moved touched?

first u get the flower, then u get the honey, then u get the stamen (darraghmac), Monday, 10 December 2012 16:37 (eleven years ago) link

Our floor has fewer than 72 people with 2 microwaves and this is probably the second time this has happened to me, but the first time by someone whom I know firsthand who leaves the restroom straight from No. 2 without washing his hands.

I was in this prematureleee air-conditioned supermarket (Leee), Monday, 10 December 2012 17:01 (eleven years ago) link

More the reason to stand watch to protect your food from that savage!

(*・_・)ノ⌒ ☆ (Je55e), Monday, 10 December 2012 17:27 (eleven years ago) link

my boss lady occassionally flirts with me, and the way she does it is like she's totally desperate for positive attention. like, it's not the kinda flirting where it's like it's "yeah, I find you attractive, it's cool" and more like "DEAR GOD PLEASE FIND ME ATTRACTIVE!!!! CHECK OUT MY TITS, CHECK OUT MY LEGS. I GOTTA NICE NECK, YOU SEE????" i have to regularly hand in projects to her, and this is making me want to avoid her like the plague.

double down is she's my boss, so i don't wanna just go "ughhhhh". guess it could be worse.

Spectrum, Monday, 10 December 2012 18:51 (eleven years ago) link

Bizarre. How do you feel about facing the problem head-on?

(*・_・)ノ⌒ ☆ (Je55e), Monday, 10 December 2012 19:33 (eleven years ago) link

i couldn't help reading your comment like beavis & butthead. i'll probably just be polite, don't know what else to do right now other than remember to find a new job at some point.

Spectrum, Monday, 10 December 2012 19:43 (eleven years ago) link

aha! i have a plan. normally i chew on an altoid when i have nasty coffee mouth and have to talk to people, but next time i talk to my boss won't. maybe my crypt-keeper breath will do the trick.

Spectrum, Monday, 10 December 2012 19:48 (eleven years ago) link

Are you in the US?

carl agatha, Monday, 10 December 2012 20:34 (eleven years ago) link

yes

Spectrum, Monday, 10 December 2012 20:40 (eleven years ago) link

Then you're fucked.

(*・_・)ノ⌒ ☆ (Je55e), Monday, 10 December 2012 21:01 (eleven years ago) link

hahaha no I was going to say that her behavior is pretty straight foward sexual harassment and suggest that you go talk to your HR department or whoever is responsible for this kind of thing. Hopefully you work for a decent employer who will take these kind of thing seriously. Then you can turn in your work without fear of getting an unwanted facefull of boobs. This is not legal advice. I am not your lawyer.

carl agatha, Monday, 10 December 2012 22:04 (eleven years ago) link

But if you're feeling direct, you can also say something like, "I really prefer to keep my work relationships very professional, so I don't think I'm the one to ask about that." (If she's saying things like "How do my gams look?" while waggling her eyebrows and lifting her skirt to reveal a garter belt or whatever she's doing.) Might shame her into being less of a dingaling.

carl agatha, Monday, 10 December 2012 22:06 (eleven years ago) link

"I don't think I'm the one to ask about that because I'm more of a buffalo hump man."

(*・_・)ノ⌒ ☆ (Je55e), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 04:14 (eleven years ago) link

haha, i'll be alright, i was just pissed off today. i need to chill the fuck out.

Spectrum, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 04:26 (eleven years ago) link

Man there is so much I want to post on this thread but never do

jawn valjawn (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 06:24 (eleven years ago) link

Dear person who sits 2 feet away from me,

Was there no better time to start noisily bundling up the scrap brown paper that came in your Amazon parcel than just as soon as someone on the other side of the room had started to answer a question I'd asked? I mean you opened the parcel this morning and hadn't touched it since, and have resumed not touching it now nobody's trying to talk to me, but even when I asked them to repeat themselves you kept going so I basically had to just pretend I had a vague idea what they said as if we were making inconsequential smalltalk at heavy metal gig night

(my hearing or my auditory processing or sth is not v good, maybe normal people can deal w/this)

a panda, Malmö (a passing spacecadet), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 15:41 (eleven years ago) link

I mean prob. normal people would just have made it more obvious that you should stop but apparently I can't be normal people and can only whine on the internet instead.

a panda, Malmö (a passing spacecadet), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 15:42 (eleven years ago) link

i shush ppl all the time, and make it perfectly clear that functioning adults shouldnt need to be fuckin shushed, it works

first u get the flower, then u get the honey, then u get the stamen (darraghmac), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 15:58 (eleven years ago) link

sometimes i feel like a diplomat crossed with a therapist trying to juggle different co-workers who are unable to communicate or be rational or act like adults. and i actually like all these people! the trouble is a lot of them don't like each other.

LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Thursday, 13 December 2012 19:42 (eleven years ago) link

I just shout IM SORRY I CANT HEAR YOU OVER THE NOISE PAPERMATE OVER THERE IS MAKING SPEAK UP.

Una Stubbs' Tears (Trayce), Thursday, 13 December 2012 23:40 (eleven years ago) link

But then again everyone at work thinks I'm a nutbar, so I dunno.

Una Stubbs' Tears (Trayce), Thursday, 13 December 2012 23:40 (eleven years ago) link

"Even though scientists have studied the ocean’s water for more than a century, they still have a lot left to find out about it."

"Pure iron is fairly soft so it is often converted to steel before use."

"Gas is all around you. It has no shape, size or colour of its own."

"This wiped out most dinosaurs but also caused an existing type of plant, the tomato plant, to change its genes. This change of genes is what turned its fruit a bright red."

Eyeball Kicks, Friday, 14 December 2012 11:17 (eleven years ago) link

otm

first u get the flower, then u get the honey, then u get the stamen (darraghmac), Friday, 14 December 2012 11:20 (eleven years ago) link

Read that as all one sentence - ie, the mysteries of the ocean, soft iron and gas being all around you wiped out the dinosaurs and turned tomatoes red. obviously.

insert witticism here (hypehat), Friday, 14 December 2012 11:29 (eleven years ago) link

That would make as much sense.

Eyeball Kicks, Friday, 14 December 2012 11:33 (eleven years ago) link

i'm getting the stupid part, not sold on the annoying bit, this co-worker sounds quite entertaining. also, where the hell do people get ideas like that tomato one ?

Jibe, Friday, 14 December 2012 11:54 (eleven years ago) link

These aren't just random things someone's saying at their desk!

I guess I didn't make this clear, but those quotes are from written work that is supposed to be part of an educational product. The annoying bit is I was supposed to be doing a brief final edit before sending this stuff out - only to be confronted by this gibberish.

Eyeball Kicks, Friday, 14 December 2012 12:00 (eleven years ago) link

(The tomato bit comes, it seems, from this http://newsfeed.time.com/2012/06/18/why-are-tomatoes-red-blame-the-meteor/. But it's just so badly explained.)

Eyeball Kicks, Friday, 14 December 2012 12:01 (eleven years ago) link

haha ok makes things a bit different then. as random office talk it sounded quite amusing, but if it's for an educational product the annoying makes sense.

Jibe, Friday, 14 December 2012 12:07 (eleven years ago) link

wtf that's a biiig difference

first u get the flower, then u get the honey, then u get the stamen (darraghmac), Friday, 14 December 2012 12:36 (eleven years ago) link

Seems to suffer from the misconception that if you write it like a 4th-grader's summary of a science lesson rather than the teacher's original lesson plan then you are "aiming it at their level" and they'll decide science is "super cool"

a panda, Malmö (a passing spacecadet), Friday, 14 December 2012 13:58 (eleven years ago) link

The whole paragraph from which I took that gas quote:

"Solids are formed from atoms that do not have much energy and that prefer to stay in one place. Liquids on the other hand are much more fluid because their molecules are not entirely pressed together. Liquids don’t have a definite shape – they take the shape of the container they are in. Gas is all around you. It has no shape, size or colour of its own. It appears when you heat a liquid to its boiling point as this allows the molecules that it contains to move faster."

Eyeball Kicks, Friday, 14 December 2012 15:03 (eleven years ago) link

that's like an uncanny valley of wrongness. its proximity to the truth is what makes it seem even worse than something straightforwardly incorrect.

ledge, Friday, 14 December 2012 15:12 (eleven years ago) link

if you weren't listening carefully you'd be nodding, poisonous stuff

first u get the flower, then u get the honey, then u get the stamen (darraghmac), Friday, 14 December 2012 15:58 (eleven years ago) link

What about former co-workers?

So...I'm cleaning out some file cabinets for the holidays and what do I find? Print-outs of e-mails from someone who was fired, buried in one of the filing cabinets. Now I know why. Little bitch talked about co-workers in e-mails....to people outside our workplace. Nothing cruel - just petty and trivial, especially since it was to complete strangers. Petty shit, like whether someone is gay or not or what food people eat.

Although it was sad to have this come up now, it's a bad memory.

why is it the squeaky dork who's on the phone all day has a voice that carries all over the office?

saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 15 December 2012 18:29 (eleven years ago) link

Like this is the second person to make comments expressing oblique discomfort with black people. The other one actually came up to me and said, "I can tell you don't like black people either." His / her evidence was my disdain for barbecued ribs. I don't like ribs, okay!! I said, "where I come from barbecued ribs is not "black people food." It's not like a told a watermelon joke.

I went to the supervisor about this kind of shit and there are social pressures against it but I couldn't be the only one because they were both fired.

I love a story with a happy ending.

pplains, Monday, 17 December 2012 14:42 (eleven years ago) link

Not even close to being the same, but I took umbrage at one of my managers who would not shut the fuck up about that "stuff white people like" website a year ago. I go over to her desk and she's all "have you heard of this web page?" I say yes, I've heard about it, but I don't think I've delved into it as much as she had.

And she says, "I think you'd like it. I can say that because [en soto whisper] we're both white."

I once went to an all-black college for a summer camp where everyone called me "Mr. Bentley", but that doesn't even compare to how offended I was at her stereotyping me as a potential fan of really shitty web humor just because of the color of my skin.

pplains, Monday, 17 December 2012 14:47 (eleven years ago) link

Wait..."stuff white people like" is for white people? I'm not sure. I was so turned off by stuff like "only white people go camping or drink Starbucks" that I never visited it again.

Again, I don't live or work in a heavily white area. Maybe it's received differently depending on where you're from.

I'm pretty sure it's meant to be "self-effacing", like that Martin Mull book in the 80s or Jim Belushi rapping on Saturday Night Live.

pplains, Monday, 17 December 2012 14:53 (eleven years ago) link

Also "black people love us" is major hilarity where I work, but I understand that in some places it's "offensive" and "racial".

But there's black people in the photographs, playing along!

pplains, Monday, 17 December 2012 14:57 (eleven years ago) link

Gonna start a blog called white co-workers I hate.

pplains, Monday, 17 December 2012 14:57 (eleven years ago) link

Would leave race out of it, but I've got no beef with the three persons of color who work here.

pplains, Monday, 17 December 2012 14:58 (eleven years ago) link

Yes, it's probably a regional thing. My brother works in a super corporate "type A" ("black belt" accounting) place but they are urban, have AA, etc.. They were passing that page around whether they were black, white, hispanic...but he told me the e-mails went out to some more rural offices where the staff were more "sensitive" of that being used on work time.

looks like a coworker may be updating HOOS' FB statuses right now

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Monday, 17 December 2012 23:06 (eleven years ago) link

just conducted a few...interesting...job interviews

"i love editing! i make sure that everything is grammatic!"

"i helped out with the budget...but nothing with money. i hate working with money."

dexpresso (Z S), Tuesday, 18 December 2012 18:30 (eleven years ago) link

also, she puts masking tape over all of her light switches at home because she prefers lamps.

dexpresso (Z S), Tuesday, 18 December 2012 18:31 (eleven years ago) link

"time. I budget time, mainly. and cookies."

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 18 December 2012 18:31 (eleven years ago) link

xpost wow

what a treat!

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 18 December 2012 18:32 (eleven years ago) link

when asked about her computer skills, she said that just last week she wanted to order a subscription to the Weekender (local newspaper) and found out she had to order online. she wasn't going anywhere NEAR that, not alone at least, so she called up her top "technical friend". they spent over 2 hours online and could not locate the Weekender. they ended up looking it up in the yellow pages and a nice young man told her it would be at her house the next day. stupid computers, what are they good for?!

dexpresso (Z S), Tuesday, 18 December 2012 18:33 (eleven years ago) link

actually, this is probably the wrong thread for this. i'm not bitching at all, she was hilarious! if she was actually my co-worker though i guess i'd get annoyed with her really quickly. that's why she's not getting the position.

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/002/686/Deal_with_it_dog_gif.gif

dexpresso (Z S), Tuesday, 18 December 2012 18:35 (eleven years ago) link

O_oh my Christ.....

also, she puts masking tape over all of her light switches at home because she prefers lamps.

How did this come up??

TBH I'm 100% behind her on preferring lamps over overhead lights, but I also prefer not having ugly ass tape stuck to my light switches.

(*・_・)ノ⌒ ☆ (Je55e), Tuesday, 18 December 2012 18:37 (eleven years ago) link

There were many uncomfortable moments so it was definitely an opportunity for me to agree that I, too, prefer lamps.

I have no idea how it came up. It was non sequitur city from the second she walked in.

dexpresso (Z S), Tuesday, 18 December 2012 18:39 (eleven years ago) link

oh she just gets more and more hilarious and awesome. the Weekender thing sounds like mother-in-law.
how old is this woman?

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 18 December 2012 18:40 (eleven years ago) link

I don't know...65 or so probably

dexpresso (Z S), Tuesday, 18 December 2012 18:40 (eleven years ago) link

ah. not to be ageist but say no more, lol

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 18 December 2012 18:41 (eleven years ago) link

but please, if you have more, say it. I find her fascinating!

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 18 December 2012 18:42 (eleven years ago) link

when i walked in she was sitting down. she stood up to shake my hand but fell back down when our hands met.

"wooooooooo! ooops!"

dexpresso (Z S), Tuesday, 18 December 2012 18:44 (eleven years ago) link

^^^all-time great opening line for a short story right there

xanthanguar (cwkiii), Tuesday, 18 December 2012 18:50 (eleven years ago) link

"i love editing! i make sure that everything is grammatic!"

http://www.sptimes.com/2003/12/09/images/large/C_1_gramatica_174762_1209.jpg

pplains, Tuesday, 18 December 2012 18:50 (eleven years ago) link

xpost lolol

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 18 December 2012 18:50 (eleven years ago) link

wish i could remember what else she said. for 30 minutes straight, she just said ridiculous things.

dexpresso (Z S), Tuesday, 18 December 2012 18:53 (eleven years ago) link

one strange thing was that she was originally scheduled to interview yesterday and requested that it be rescheduled - because she accepted a job elsewhere in our Agency and yesterday was her first day! (?!?!?!?)

dexpresso (Z S), Tuesday, 18 December 2012 18:54 (eleven years ago) link

omg

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 18 December 2012 18:54 (eleven years ago) link

maybe she was like well i just accepted this other job, so i might as well go to the interview and be weird because fuck it yolo

congratulations (n/a), Tuesday, 18 December 2012 18:56 (eleven years ago) link

ha

first u get the flower, then u get the honey, then u get the stamen (darraghmac), Tuesday, 18 December 2012 18:56 (eleven years ago) link

yeah, i mean i sorta get the reasoning, maybe she wanted to accept the other one just to make sure she had it, but was more excited about this one or something. it might fly in the private sector or something, but when you all work as part of the same organization it would be kind of weird. like, i can't imagine if we hired someone and then two days later found out that another part of the Agency had hired her away!

dexpresso (Z S), Tuesday, 18 December 2012 18:59 (eleven years ago) link

btw as i was typing that my boss came up and as i'm talking to her i realize the words "Let's bitch about our stupid, annoying co-workers" are behind my head

dexpresso (Z S), Tuesday, 18 December 2012 18:59 (eleven years ago) link

uhhh...i'm talking about my cow..workers...it's a WoW thing...uh

dexpresso (Z S), Tuesday, 18 December 2012 19:00 (eleven years ago) link

that's an awesome reverse of a lol-facepalm incident I witnessed

years ago in my old publishing job, my airheaded coworker and I were riding home on the train together.
She says quietly, 'I had to give my notice today.' She'd been looking for another job, so I asked her if she had found a job.
And she says tearfully, "No! That's what's so confusing! I just went into Jane (our boss), and I said can I have Friday off, because I have a job interview.'

facepalm

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 18 December 2012 19:02 (eleven years ago) link

hahahaha

Jesus, the Total Douchebag (DJP), Tuesday, 18 December 2012 19:27 (eleven years ago) link

it would be difficult to keep the palm from connecting to the face at that moment

dexpresso (Z S), Tuesday, 18 December 2012 19:32 (eleven years ago) link

it was beautiful. AND I had to explain to her, in great detail, exactly why this was the stupidest thing in the world to announce to your boss.

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 18 December 2012 19:33 (eleven years ago) link

That's great -- did the light bulb ever go off over her head?

WilliamC, Tuesday, 18 December 2012 19:34 (eleven years ago) link

Once I laid out the math for her. Then her eyes got all big and she put her hand over her mouth and was like 'Ohhhhh!'

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 18 December 2012 19:35 (eleven years ago) link

xpost

sounds like she put the masking tape over the figurative light switch a long, long time ago

dexpresso (Z S), Tuesday, 18 December 2012 19:40 (eleven years ago) link

Final footnote to airheaded coworker:

She used to crack me up because always nod at you wide-eyed like a puppy when you were giving instructions and you just knew that nothing was sinking in. And she'd say yes she understood and tell you she'd get right on it and it would almost always be a mess. Her working life was pretty tough, so it was no wonder that she was looking elsewhere.

So the piece de resistance to this whole thing was toward the end of that same train ride, after the whole she's lost her job revelation went down, she told me in passing that she has always had trouble with verbal instructions. She said just can't seem to understand things when they're spoken half as well as when they're written down, she wasn't sure if it was a learning disability but it made things really hard.

...

why didn't you TELL ANYONE?

double facepalm.

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 18 December 2012 19:42 (eleven years ago) link

Oh, well that part I can understand a little more. It's nothing to be ashamed of, but I'm sure some people might be a little embarrassed about it and maybe hesitate to bring it up.

dexpresso (Z S), Tuesday, 18 December 2012 19:45 (eleven years ago) link

yeah but if it's literally the key to your work life being awful vs bearable, it makes all the difference

people are much more understanding if it helps them AND you and gets shit done

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 18 December 2012 19:49 (eleven years ago) link

She said just can't seem to understand things when they're spoken half as well as when they're written down...

why didn't you TELL ANYONE?

Or wrote a note to somebody.

pplains, Tuesday, 18 December 2012 22:10 (eleven years ago) link

eh, aren't you guys forgetting that she couldn't have read your precious written instructions when her lightbulb didn't work?

first u get the flower, then u get the honey, then u get the stamen (darraghmac), Wednesday, 19 December 2012 00:47 (eleven years ago) link

"Hey Erica,

Is that your large print job at Printer 3? Do you mind printing jobs that size in the copy room? Thanks much, I'm pretty noise sensitive."

Everything about this email is pissing me off. Maybe irrationally so but c'mon we don't work in a library and also SHE IS WEARING HEADPHONES AND LISTENING TO MUSIC IT'S NOT THAT LOUD.

go to party leather (ENBB), Thursday, 20 December 2012 16:40 (eleven years ago) link

she EMAILED that to you?

an eagle named "small government" (call all destroyer), Thursday, 20 December 2012 16:42 (eleven years ago) link

YES

She sits like two feet away from me too.

go to party leather (ENBB), Thursday, 20 December 2012 16:43 (eleven years ago) link

definitely file under "if you would feel ridiculous requesting this to someone's face, don't send an email about it"

an eagle named "small government" (call all destroyer), Thursday, 20 December 2012 16:50 (eleven years ago) link

I would start sending emails after every print job saying "omg I'm so sorry I forgot! I should write this down lol"

GIMME SOME REGGAE (DJP), Thursday, 20 December 2012 16:52 (eleven years ago) link

Also people are giving out holiday stuff and one of the men I work with just gave me a bag of granola. I know we do health research and stuff and I like granola as much as the next person but that's just sorta weird?

go to party leather (ENBB), Thursday, 20 December 2012 16:53 (eleven years ago) link

djp otm

go to party leather (ENBB), Thursday, 20 December 2012 16:54 (eleven years ago) link

you should send back an embedded autoplay youtube of like gangam style or skrillex and just annoy her further

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 20 December 2012 16:54 (eleven years ago) link

lol bag of granola

some people are so practical/bland as to kill the spirit of the festive season imo

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 20 December 2012 16:55 (eleven years ago) link

super-positive Mr Nice Guy manager has all these behaviours he learned from business self-help books - the worst of which is TOUCHING MY FUCKING ARM WHENEVER HE TALKS TO ME.

if you touch me again i will kill you

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 20 December 2012 16:58 (eleven years ago) link

maybe he likes u

Spectrum, Thursday, 20 December 2012 17:04 (eleven years ago) link

I've heard through another co-worker that he's terrified of me lol. So I think this is him trying to win me over.

Pro tip: don't. fucking. touch. me. and we'll be golden.

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 20 December 2012 17:20 (eleven years ago) link

lol phil

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 20 December 2012 17:20 (eleven years ago) link

Does he also say your name a lot for no apparent reason, other than he's talking to you? Ooooh, look at Mr Dominant Manager, tryna dominate!

rihanna, will you ever win? (suzy), Thursday, 20 December 2012 17:24 (eleven years ago) link

yes

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 20 December 2012 17:24 (eleven years ago) link

I'm sure if he shook hands with me he would clasp mine within both his hands

He's THAT guy

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 20 December 2012 17:25 (eleven years ago) link

just a PUA manager, workin on a little kino

fueled by satanism, violence, and sodomy (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 20 December 2012 17:26 (eleven years ago) link

i hate u elmo

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 20 December 2012 17:27 (eleven years ago) link

He's been on a course and he's trying to pass himself off as an alpha. BURN HIM.

rihanna, will you ever win? (suzy), Thursday, 20 December 2012 17:28 (eleven years ago) link

he's been that guy for a good 10 years

the only pleasure I can take is him not knowing that I know and continue to remain a cypher to him

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 20 December 2012 17:29 (eleven years ago) link

eventually he'll short-circuit

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 20 December 2012 17:30 (eleven years ago) link

ENBB, ignore it and if she asks you about it, act shocked and tell her you'll check your spam for her important mail. GRRRR hate people trying to assert control of their surroundings when it's also everyone else's surroundings, and they really have no business telling you what to do in that setting.

rihanna, will you ever win? (suzy), Thursday, 20 December 2012 17:34 (eleven years ago) link

My office is undergoing major renovations. For the past months, there's been plastic on the floor, unplugged refridgerators, weird dudes walking around and general disorder.

Remember that scene in 2001 when the monkeys woke up at dawn to find the monolith outside their cave? This is what we were met with when we came in on Monday.

http://i.imgur.com/p0MA3.jpg

That wasn't there before.

On the other side of that plywood box, their drilling holes scooting big heavy objects around on the floor, talking politics and using something that must be a forklift that goes beeeeeep-beeeeep-beeeeeep every few minutes.

It's starting to get to me.

Since we're all playing musical chairs after the Christmas break, the office held a contest with the winners in five categories getting $100 a piece. My group was spotless, I tell you this as truth. But some of the categories we weren't even in the running, like "Best Before Cleanup" and "Most Improved".

My boss handed hundred-dollar bills out like candy. Must've been 25-30 individuals overall.

When it came my group's turn, she gave us a consolation prized and handed us boxes of candy like they were hundred-dollar bills.

God, I try not to be a jealous person. I revel in the successes of others. But my ass was fucking burned on this deal. Especially the most-improved guys - their desks were still stacked with crap while ours were clean and sparse.

I told them that I was going to take a big shit on my desk and just leave it there for the next 11 months. That way, I'll be a shoo-in for "most improved".

They say I'm going to get a window office after all is said and done. That sad little fact is my carrot right now.

pplains, Thursday, 20 December 2012 17:39 (eleven years ago) link

Habit 1: Be Proactive
Habit 2: Begin with the End in Mind
Habit 3: Put First Things First
Habit 4: Think Win-Win
Habit 5: Seek First to Understand, Then to be Understood
Habit 6: Synergize
Habit 7: Touch Their Arms

xanthanguar (cwkiii), Thursday, 20 December 2012 17:39 (eleven years ago) link

Habit 8: Be Killed By VG

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 20 December 2012 17:43 (eleven years ago) link

That's not really a habit as it can only happen once. Maybe make it one of his 'stretch goals'?

I saw three shi*s come sailing in... (snoball), Thursday, 20 December 2012 17:48 (eleven years ago) link

the other day I printed out a large set of large spreadsheets a3 without checking the page ratio first. Cue endless reams of A3 pages with five lol HUEG orange cells on like I'm doing a presentation to toddlers, while I try to figure out how to stop this incredibly noisy printer I've never used before in an office I don't usually work in.

Fizzles, Thursday, 20 December 2012 18:16 (eleven years ago) link

oh that was in response to ENBB upthread. I'm not just pointlessly bitching about myself out of the tedium of it all.

Fizzles, Thursday, 20 December 2012 18:17 (eleven years ago) link

Here's what you do with the granola.

Open the bag.
Walk over to your passive aggressive coworker's desk.
Grab a handful of granola.
Throw it in the air like confetti so that it lands on her head and desk and yell HAPPY HOLIDAYS!
Grab more granola.
Eat it.
Walk back to your desk.
Send a huge job to the printer next to her.

carl agatha, Thursday, 20 December 2012 18:35 (eleven years ago) link

I like the way you think, lady.

go to party leather (ENBB), Thursday, 20 December 2012 18:35 (eleven years ago) link

btw - I didn't respond, kept printing, and gave her the stink eye.

go to party leather (ENBB), Thursday, 20 December 2012 18:36 (eleven years ago) link

Until September we had a line manager who would ask us before doing anything (ok, only because he had no idea what was going on), so the new line manager is a bit of a shock.

One of our team is leaving and the line manager was all like "sure, we'll advertise for a replacement". The "replacement" is actually going to earn more than us and manage some unspecified people, possibly us or possibly people brought in from outside to do our jobs with less experience (it's a pretty niche field) for more money. We find this out not because our manager said but because someone happened to read the job ad on the puffy promo blog for a completely different part of our department.

PS there is no chance that any of us could go for the jobs because we don't have "modern" skills, but if we'd ever wanted to modernise skills we'd have been told to shut up and do our jobs because there's no time to learn new things and no money for training and what would we ever want with new skills anyway, everything works just fine, etc.

I mean I get that this is how the real world works, but, y'know

a panda, Malmö (a passing spacecadet), Thursday, 20 December 2012 18:38 (eleven years ago) link

xp What a total clungie. I'd be tempted to minimise every single one of her concerns for a month, just because I could.

also, GAHHHHHH on behalf of spacecadet.

rihanna, will you ever win? (suzy), Thursday, 20 December 2012 18:40 (eleven years ago) link

carl I need you in my office

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 20 December 2012 19:03 (eleven years ago) link

wait

lol that sounded like a weird managerial come on. I just meant, carl would be greatly appreciated by me as a coworker

better.

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 20 December 2012 19:04 (eleven years ago) link

*puts hand on VG's arm*

Hi, VG, what I can do for you, VG?

carl agatha, Thursday, 20 December 2012 19:09 (eleven years ago) link

[miss piggy karate chop action sequence here]

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 20 December 2012 19:22 (eleven years ago) link

FUCK:

When talking on the phone with the local State's Attorney regarding stuff that is absolutely CRUCIAL to a case, maybe you should get the spelling of his not-so-common last name instead of writing it phonetically because you had "urgent stuff" to talk to him about.

I tracked him down and the phonetic spelling vs. actual spelling were equivalent to "Derrick O'Donnel" vs. "Barack Obama."

(*・_・)ノ⌒ ☆ (Je55e), Thursday, 20 December 2012 21:42 (eleven years ago) link

The guy who sits directly next to me has a cold and is sucking snot up his nose with a huge wet snorkeling sound roughly every 10-15 seconds. I had headphones on most of the day but am nearly ready to leave and so have been listening to this for the last 15 minutes or so and I am ready to either fire-ax him in the back of the neck or vomit copiously at his feet. It's fucking repulsive.

誤訳侮辱, Thursday, 20 December 2012 22:55 (eleven years ago) link

ugh, we have a high school intern that did that. my boss walked over a box of tissues to him and said "use these, now".

brownie, Thursday, 20 December 2012 23:18 (eleven years ago) link

hero

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 20 December 2012 23:19 (eleven years ago) link

i can't imagine being a schoolteacher during cold and fly season and having to listen to that every second

brownie, Thursday, 20 December 2012 23:21 (eleven years ago) link

lol flu

brownie, Thursday, 20 December 2012 23:21 (eleven years ago) link

lady next to me has flu atm and every time she coughs it sounds like there is something living scrabbling about in her throat tryin to get out

banlieue jagger (darraghmac), Thursday, 20 December 2012 23:23 (eleven years ago) link

btw vg my internet diagnosis book sez yr boss is probably racist and stamps on puppies too, but it is an older edition so idk

banlieue jagger (darraghmac), Thursday, 20 December 2012 23:25 (eleven years ago) link

noted
thx deems

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 20 December 2012 23:27 (eleven years ago) link

coworker has the flu, coughing fits give me the heeb

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 20 December 2012 23:27 (eleven years ago) link

oops heebie jeebies

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 20 December 2012 23:28 (eleven years ago) link

super-positive Mr Nice Guy manager has all these behaviours he learned from business self-help books - the worst of which is TOUCHING MY FUCKING ARM WHENEVER HE TALKS TO ME.

I went to a local event a few years ago, and the town supervisor did this to me. UGH.

tokyo rosemary, Friday, 21 December 2012 03:43 (eleven years ago) link

it's the worst, right?

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 21 December 2012 05:07 (eleven years ago) link

It is the worst, but I did just say 'Can you stop touching my arm please' to a manager who used to do this and he didn't do it again, possibly to anyone.

Fizzles, Friday, 21 December 2012 05:18 (eleven years ago) link

Possibly depends on who's doing it though. I liked it when the cute canteen cashier girl did it to me. But probably goes without saying.

Stevolende, Friday, 21 December 2012 09:35 (eleven years ago) link

I just know I'm gonna be txted a jillion times during my 3 weeks off that just started because the guy doing my work while I'm away went "yep... uh huh ... ok" to all my overview/training/catchup shit.

That, or I'll get back in 3 weeks to the equivalent of leela stuffing papers into potplants shrieking "paperwork... so much paper" and I'll have to do 3 weeks of catchup ;_;

Una Stubbs' Tears (Trayce), Friday, 21 December 2012 11:42 (eleven years ago) link

Our resident Alpha Male With A Sensitive Side got a puppy over the weekend. As a result, this week's shouted conversations about How Great Guns Are and How Amazing My Girlfriend Is and How Heavenly This Leftover White Chicken Chili is have dissipated in favor of How Awesome My Puppy Is Look At This Shitty Cellphone Video and Here Is How To Assert Yourself As The Leader Of The Pack A Book Told Me So.

xanthanguar (cwkiii), Friday, 21 December 2012 15:09 (eleven years ago) link

The secretary, who complains a lot about the privileges we all have, was working at my desk. She went through my drawers, looked at my graduate work, etc, did her nails at the desk. And it was all like, "gee I sure hope I can do graduate work some day. I love real estate!" Like, I'm not going into real estate for grad school. Listens to my mp3s. Fine, I'm a generous person....

I'm expected to put up with her and then clean up after her. Of course I was raised not to make people feel bad and to grouse.

I guess I'll just chide myself for not being a better person. I mean, it's the holidays. I won't have much of one, but I think she needs another happy family holiday and I don't have much of one to look forward to anyway. M

for christ's sakes everyone is basically off next week but determined to be a complete pain in the ass on their way out.

an eagle named "small government" (call all destroyer), Friday, 21 December 2012 19:59 (eleven years ago) link

process that has been run weekly for over a year suddenly cannot be run. dollar amounts that have been disclosed for the past three years suddenly cannot be disclosed. FUCK YOU.

an eagle named "small government" (call all destroyer), Friday, 21 December 2012 20:02 (eleven years ago) link

It's possibly a gross overreduction/simplification on my part but this thread has, for real, not joking, done a huge deal to make me not ever want to work an office/cubicle type job.

nicki mINOJ (Stevie D(eux)), Friday, 21 December 2012 21:10 (eleven years ago) link

Has anyone had much success w/ PCSX2?

nicki mINOJ (Stevie D(eux)), Friday, 21 December 2012 21:14 (eleven years ago) link

as a method of dealing with my office job? nope ;)

an eagle named "small government" (call all destroyer), Friday, 21 December 2012 21:23 (eleven years ago) link

OOPS WRONG THREAD LOL

nicki mINOJ (Stevie D(eux)), Friday, 21 December 2012 21:23 (eleven years ago) link

It's possibly a gross overreduction/simplification on my part but this thread an office/cubicle type job has, for real, not joking, done a huge deal to make me not ever want to work an office/cubicle type job.

fixed

I saw three shi*s come sailing in... (snoball), Friday, 21 December 2012 21:27 (eleven years ago) link

It's possibly a gross overreduction/simplification on my part but this thread has, for real, not joking, done a huge deal to make me not ever want to work an office/cubicle type job.

I've worked in grocery stores, at retail store, in the woods for the US Forest Service, in a flower shop (delivery, sales, design), delivering pizzas, waiting tables and tending bar in several restaurants (including serving on a yacht), and in a couple of offices, and in my view, offices are no worse than any of the other settings. For me, office work is preferable, particularly b/c I don't have to deal with the public as much.

(*・_・)ノ⌒ ☆ (Je55e), Friday, 21 December 2012 21:36 (eleven years ago) link

I love dealing w/ the public though :(

nicki mINOJ (Stevie D(eux)), Friday, 21 December 2012 21:38 (eleven years ago) link

Oh. Carry on, then.

(*・_・)ノ⌒ ☆ (Je55e), Friday, 21 December 2012 21:39 (eleven years ago) link

I'm very good at customer service, but I don't like doing it.

(*・_・)ノ⌒ ☆ (Je55e), Friday, 21 December 2012 21:39 (eleven years ago) link

i am awesome at computer-nerdy stuff like edi and spreadsheets and finding out things, even hand-keying huge orders I'm clam-happy. just pleeease don't make me call anyone or be called by anyone ;_;

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 21 December 2012 22:17 (eleven years ago) link

I don't know if I actually like working with the public or not, but I'm very good at it, so it feels as though I like it.

carl agatha, Friday, 21 December 2012 22:26 (eleven years ago) link

i can do it, i'm just terrible at thinking on my feet & get v anxious if things go awry

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 21 December 2012 22:31 (eleven years ago) link

I don't enjoy it, but I was pretty good at it -- and unlike my current job, it was something I could walk away from at the end of the workday and not have to think about.

WilliamC, Friday, 21 December 2012 22:33 (eleven years ago) link

I loath the public. Disgusting savages, the lot of em.

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 21 December 2012 22:51 (eleven years ago) link

Only thing worse than talking to some of my co-workers would be having to talk to them within a customer-retailer relationship.

pplains, Saturday, 22 December 2012 00:28 (eleven years ago) link

I don't mind the public, it's refreshing to deal with people who aren't crazy. Because I work on the phone a lot and some sales people are NUTS. Like the one who screamed at my boss and sent me threatening e-mails. Anonymity encourages abusive behavior. But dealing with people face to face is physically taxing but people certainly behave better.

The worst - being interrupted at work BY BILL COLLECTORS when you have an important job to do. It's the insinuation that you are working at some shit job and can't pay your bills.

What I miss about waiting tables is talking to lots of people and getting to entertain them a little (if that's what they wanted).

(*・_・)ノ⌒ ☆ (Je55e), Saturday, 22 December 2012 17:02 (eleven years ago) link

What I really miss is the money. 5 years into my job as a paralegal, I am finally making almost as much as I made at my last waitering job (at a kinda-fine-dining seafood restaurant).

(*・_・)ノ⌒ ☆ (Je55e), Saturday, 22 December 2012 17:08 (eleven years ago) link

one co-worker said she was looking for a "vegan spiderman watch", and a dude bro said "vegan!?? tell your friend to man up and eat a steak!" with no hint of irony. now he's talking about bacon. i didn't think these people really existed.

Spectrum, Thursday, 27 December 2012 15:27 (eleven years ago) link

wait she was looking for a vegan spiderman watch

banlieue jagger (darraghmac), Thursday, 27 December 2012 15:30 (eleven years ago) link

How Heavenly This Leftover White Chicken Chili is

My family loves this shit.

grossly incorrect register (in orbit), Thursday, 27 December 2012 15:30 (eleven years ago) link

Ugh. Yeh, they do. I used to work with a "foodie" type who I told I wanted to go to a certain fine-dining vegetarian restaurant that had an amazing reputation. Her response: "Meh. I like meat."

If you can't conceive of amazing non-meat food, and see the omission of meat as a culinary challenge, then fuck off with your foodie-ism.

xp - yeh, wait - vegan watch?

(*・_・)ノ⌒ ☆ (Je55e), Thursday, 27 December 2012 15:33 (eleven years ago) link

xxp yeah, i don't really know what that is... maybe part of the spiderman alternate lifestyle collection. hopefully this thread's googleproofed because i can't imagine there are too many pages out there selling those

Spectrum, Thursday, 27 December 2012 15:35 (eleven years ago) link

"Vegan watch" would imply a non-leather band.

autistic boy is surprisingly good at basketball (silby), Thursday, 27 December 2012 15:36 (eleven years ago) link

Cf. vegan shoes

autistic boy is surprisingly good at basketball (silby), Thursday, 27 December 2012 15:36 (eleven years ago) link

i'm trying not to be that guy but lol vegan watch i know i know i'll stop

banlieue jagger (darraghmac), Thursday, 27 December 2012 15:38 (eleven years ago) link

Presumably "vegan Spiderman watch" means a watch that does not have a leather band? Which happen to be the vast majority of search results for "Spiderman watch," because how many children's watches come with leather bands?

Not that your "eat a steak dur dur dur" coworker is something other than an asshole, mind you. Just that I can't quite get past somebody needing to search for a "vegan Spiderman watch" like it's something that needs to even be labeled as such or is somehow tough to find.

carl agatha, Thursday, 27 December 2012 15:39 (eleven years ago) link

Just miles and miles of vegan Spiderman watches right here

carl agatha, Thursday, 27 December 2012 15:39 (eleven years ago) link

And yes, there are adult Spiderman watches with leather bands but I am not going to apologize to anyone offended by my suggestion that Spiderman watches are properly for children.

carl agatha, Thursday, 27 December 2012 15:41 (eleven years ago) link

well now i am outraged

banlieue jagger (darraghmac), Thursday, 27 December 2012 15:43 (eleven years ago) link

Maybe you can get Spiderman to come to your next birthday party to soothe your fury.

carl agatha, Thursday, 27 December 2012 15:45 (eleven years ago) link

only if he wears leather

banlieue jagger (darraghmac), Thursday, 27 December 2012 15:46 (eleven years ago) link

it got creepy, didn't it?

banlieue jagger (darraghmac), Thursday, 27 December 2012 15:46 (eleven years ago) link

Would invite Italian spider man to my birthday party

autistic boy is surprisingly good at basketball (silby), Thursday, 27 December 2012 15:47 (eleven years ago) link

Spidergimp

carl agatha, Thursday, 27 December 2012 15:49 (eleven years ago) link

I've clearly been living in Brighton for too long, because I understood the concept of a vegan watch immediately.

emil.y, Thursday, 27 December 2012 16:02 (eleven years ago) link

hopefully this thread's googleproofed because i can't imagine there are too many pages out there selling those

Yes, it was de-indexed earlier this year, so we're safe. vegan watches vegan spidermen vegan spiders vegan men

(*・_・)ノ⌒ ☆ (Je55e), Thursday, 27 December 2012 16:03 (eleven years ago) link

i am interested in leather spiderman

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 27 December 2012 16:03 (eleven years ago) link

maybe

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 27 December 2012 16:03 (eleven years ago) link

He won't be interested in someone so ambivalent.

Stake your claim!

pandemic, Thursday, 27 December 2012 16:04 (eleven years ago) link

Also red dye made of these dudes could be a reason why you would want your Spiderman watch to be labeled as vegan.

xanthanguar (cwkiii), Thursday, 27 December 2012 16:05 (eleven years ago) link

i'd like to think of it as a watch featuring vegan spiderman. i mean, spiderman's a young guy, there's probably a lot of shit he wants to try out

Spectrum, Thursday, 27 December 2012 16:06 (eleven years ago) link

i kinda think of this guy as vegan spiderman

http://collider.com/wp-content/uploads/amazing-spider-man-andrew-garfield-damage.jpg

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 27 December 2012 16:13 (eleven years ago) link

- Boss has been complaining about his old, slow, buggy, POS desktop computer for months.
- IT guy set up his laptop to be his main machine.
- He has still been using the old POS desktop and complaining about it.

- Co-worker's desktop bit the dust.

- Boss suggests that co-worker can just have his old (POS) desktop since he now has the laptop.
????????

(POS = Piece of Shit, not Point of Sale)

(*・_・)ノ⌒ ☆ (Je55e), Thursday, 27 December 2012 16:14 (eleven years ago) link

[kills thread by bitching about coworker]

(*・_・)ノ⌒ ☆ (Je55e), Thursday, 27 December 2012 16:27 (eleven years ago) link

how dare you stay on topic

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 27 December 2012 16:35 (eleven years ago) link

In an email to me, Jesse once named the Quad Cities as Rock Island, Moline, Davenport, and Spiderman.

carl agatha, Thursday, 27 December 2012 16:39 (eleven years ago) link

lol

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 27 December 2012 16:40 (eleven years ago) link

agggghhhh

lovely coworker backing up someone on vacation. she's very good at her job but as a backup omg she drives me insane.
she's someone who is so thorough as to ask questions that NO_ONE has the answers to, where the previous 2 examples of the process she needs to follow are not enough to create a body of evidence for her and she turns the whole thing into a fucking royal commission coroner's inquest, slowing the whole process down to a ridiculous crawl. she has now turned a very simple request into a 24 hour odyssey and I just want to slam my head into my desk repeatedly until it stops

i'm too tired for this bullshit

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 27 December 2012 17:23 (eleven years ago) link

Hmm. Sounds like this could be the last time she's called to back up someone on vacation. Ridiculous like a fox.

pplains, Thursday, 27 December 2012 17:40 (eleven years ago) link

one more

i hate being the backup for someone who never involves you in ANY of their day to day work until the day before they go on vacation, and then give you a panicked speech about everything that needs to be done in vague handwavey sketches that you know will become a giant clusterfuck within a day of them being gone

help me
help you

ugh

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 27 December 2012 21:56 (eleven years ago) link

I don't have co-workers anymore but I noticed this year everyone I know from all over received a crocheted-like fluffy scarf from the crafty co-worker.
Then I received the exact scarf from a friend.
When I asked if she made it she said no, her co-worker made it for her to give to me. Co-Worker Scarf, sure you got one.

*tera, Friday, 28 December 2012 02:01 (eleven years ago) link

day one of flying blind, backing up vague handwavey coworker on vacation (who also happens to have the most notoriously needy, handholding, minutiae-needing account base in the entire company)

omg
deluge of things I knew nothing about
til noon it was terrifying. open his email 'YOU HAVE 200 UNREAD MESSAGES' wtf
by the end of the day, it was ok
but uuuuuuuuuuuuuugh talk about throwing me in the deep end.

thank god for Outlook keyword 'search' function, if I couldn't trawl his emails to find out what the fuck everyone was talking about i'd have been screwed

3 more days of this

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 3 January 2013 01:04 (eleven years ago) link

I got ppl (hopefully) backing me up for 3 weeks. We have a wiki, and EERYTHING I do is listed as how-tos in it. Has been for years. Every year, that said, I get asked the same dumb questions. By people who have worked there longer than me, backed me up before more than once, and just shouldnt need to ask.

Txt the other day "how do I access the fax mailbox?" (our faxes come via email). I'm like.... seriously? You're asking me this NOW? I just said "use outlooks webmail? nfi what the pwd is by the way, ask the MIS guy". Havent heard anoher word.

I expect to come back to a giant pile of badly or not-done mess. Meanwhile I flat out REFUSE to even look at my work mail. This is the only decent, fully switched off break I get all year (my role doesnt allow long breaks at any other time as there's always shit on)

Una Stubbs' Tears (Trayce), Thursday, 3 January 2013 01:17 (eleven years ago) link

we had a whole wiki thing implemented a few years ago but none of my coworkers want to read anything, they just want magical question-answerers sitting on their laps 24/7

so it wallowed in unupdatedness

hence my current situation lol

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 3 January 2013 01:19 (eleven years ago) link

Oh I update mine all the time. Fuck if anyone can be arsed RingTFM, tho.

Una Stubbs' Tears (Trayce), Thursday, 3 January 2013 01:27 (eleven years ago) link

none of my coworkers want to read anything, they just want magical question-answerers sitting on their laps 24/7

This is the story of my life

just1n3, Thursday, 3 January 2013 02:19 (eleven years ago) link

My manager told me I should I think about taking antibiotics. All I have is a cold!

tokyo rosemary, Thursday, 3 January 2013 02:21 (eleven years ago) link

at my previous job, when i expressed frustration at a coworker who refused to read emails or how-to docs and instead just asked me the same question over and over again, he unironically told me that he was in sales, and as a result that his time was more important than having to dig through his email to find the answer to a question.

eh mec, elle est ou ma caisse? (ytth), Thursday, 3 January 2013 03:26 (eleven years ago) link

he was speaking the truth

it took me nearly 10 years to figure out that binders, wikis and helpful, clearly worded docs were as useless as tits on a bull to salesppl who live to wave their arms robotically and talk loudly and BE SO IMPORTANT THAT I HAVE NO TIME TO PUT ANY WORDS IN MY HEADFACEHOLE OTHER THAN MY OWN YOU ARE AWESOME

wooo just broke the glass on the old cynicism meter lol

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 3 January 2013 03:37 (eleven years ago) link

headfacehole
i'd rather die
than reader your binder, lol

carl agita (Je55e), Thursday, 3 January 2013 03:43 (eleven years ago) link

to the tune of 'yesterday', right?

let's bitch about our stupid, annoying co-ilxors (darraghmac), Thursday, 3 January 2013 03:45 (eleven years ago) link

he unironically told me that he was in sales, and as a result that his time was more important than having to dig through his email to find the answer to a question

this is a serious candidate for one of the worst things i've ever heard

i want to go back in time and place and physically pummel him

mookieproof, Thursday, 3 January 2013 03:52 (eleven years ago) link

Its not just sales. The support TL blankly informed me a while ago that something SHE wanted to find out she "doesnt have time to read up on, thats your job to do and tell me".

What. The. Fuck.

Una Stubbs' Tears (Trayce), Thursday, 3 January 2013 11:40 (eleven years ago) link

Its not just sales.

Also lawyers.

carl agatha, Thursday, 3 January 2013 13:53 (eleven years ago) link

All but one of our lawyers enter their time directly on the billing system. The one who won't doesn't b/c he truly can not figure it out. All he has to do is log in, look up the client, and enter the work description, but he fucks it up.

Instead he hand writes his work,descriptions, then later and transcribes the work to an Excel file (one for each day), which he emails to a secretary, who transfers them into the billing system - after she has sent a dozen emails w/ questions.

Yesterday one of the other partners, who is that guy's friend, bitched to me about this absurd waste of resources (with extra opportunities for errors). He said he'd personally given him a tutorial, but it was an unequivocal failure.

carl agita (Je55e), Thursday, 3 January 2013 15:09 (eleven years ago) link

if you asked him why he won't learn he'd say 'biil'n time's bogus je55e'

let's bitch about our stupid, annoying co-ilxors (darraghmac), Thursday, 3 January 2013 15:37 (eleven years ago) link

Not about co-workers, but sometimes clients come in and go, "how come you don't talk to so-and-so anymore", or "do you want so-and-so's e-mail / Facebook / phone number"....and it's not someone I want to hear from ever again! Moreover, my family and co-workers aren't any of that person's business! I didn't like her and I'm kind of busy these days...I just don't want that person's social disease in my workplace or at home and I don't feel like explaining it to a near stranger.

My stupid annoying co-workers are currently rehashing their almost daily "lazy benefit cheats have giant TVs and private jets while I work my arse off and pay taxes and struggle to make ends meet" rants.

They never mention struggling to make ends meet when they're talking about paying over £200 for a fucking golf club.

Stop Gerrying Me! (onimo), Friday, 4 January 2013 11:40 (eleven years ago) link

at my previous job, when i expressed frustration at a coworker who refused to read emails or how-to docs and instead just asked me the same question over and over again, he unironically told me that he was in sales, and as a result that his time was more important than having to dig through his email to find the answer to a question.

― eh mec, elle est ou ma caisse? (ytth), Thursday, 3 January 2013 03:26 (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Coming from a sales background, I can empathise, but all too often emails from management or marketing take the form of densely-worded prose that go on for multiple paragraphs including a long preamble and loads of other bumph that's superfluous to the essential details. When you're being targeted on performance (i.e. how many clients you speak to in a day, how many of these you sell to) receiving these things is such a pain in the arse. Bulletpoints exist for a reason!

besides Sunny Real Estate (dog latin), Friday, 4 January 2013 12:19 (eleven years ago) link

Depends on how good a golfer you are - if it wasn't for golf my late father wouldn't be able to pay bills, it's how he made business friends.

True story - he started out working parks and country clubs as a poor kid, mastered golf and tennis and some of those other games, used his sports ability to get jobs and contacts. He won a national amateur tournamnent and was good enough to be a pro! Not a typical experience, tho.

Not arguing with you - a lot of office dorks are SHIT at golf and then spend all that money on it. And I sit there listening to their golf stories and get steamed...I picture their ass getting beat by some nobody kid.

This guy's an engineer in his 50s playing golf as a hobby with a 3 handicap. He and his wife are earning around £40k each. He has no children. He aint struggling to make ends meet.

Stop Gerrying Me! (onimo), Friday, 4 January 2013 13:14 (eleven years ago) link

Ask them if they've ever had to accept out of work benefits? Pretty sure half of the British workforce has never graced a Jobcentre for any reason. Most scrounger rhetoric is due to ignorance (wait, you'll probably also have to explain what 'rhetoric' is).

karl lagerlout (suzy), Friday, 4 January 2013 13:21 (eleven years ago) link

Britain has engineers? Just kidding...my dad worked in engineering where there are stereotypes.

I think he's been in work since his apprenticeship started 30-odd years ago so no, I don't think he's ever needed or sought benefits.

Neither have I, though my parents very much did, but it doesn't mean I have to buy into the "how dare they have FLAT SCREEN TELEVISIONS!" pish.

xp

Stop Gerrying Me! (onimo), Friday, 4 January 2013 13:29 (eleven years ago) link

Why are FLAT SCREEN TELEVISIONS still used as a luxury signifier - is it even possible to buy a CRT telly these day?

Stop Gerrying Me! (onimo), Friday, 4 January 2013 13:30 (eleven years ago) link

Right? Or smart phones, which not only are not that expensive with a minutes plan, are also becoming vital since they allow people to connect to the internet. Also fuck anybody who believes that people in economic straights should never have any fun or do anything enjoyable. Like the price for receiving food stamps should be that you spend all your free time sitting quietly in the dark in your apartment, contemplating what a burden you are on society. Fuck that.

carl agatha, Friday, 4 January 2013 13:36 (eleven years ago) link

See also: "Don't give that panhandler any money! I saw him in the liquor store last week!"

carl agatha, Friday, 4 January 2013 13:37 (eleven years ago) link

I know plenty of people who've never claimed benefits who don't go around calling out scroungers, because they're not Daily Mail readers and/or not so completely solipsistic that they can't imagine someone needing help from the state. Most of my friends in the UK think it's appalling to have to be at the mercy of some box-ticking Jobcentre/A4e moron for £71/week - and that person has the power to take away this trifling amount if you aren't a suitably chirpy potential worker bee. Some people are just temperamentally suited to loudly demand that people in need must wear the hairshirt or grab their forelocks in tribute to any passing working person, possibly because it makes them feel superior to SOMEONE for a few seconds and distracts them from how much their public servants believe them to be easily malleable plebs.

karl lagerlout (suzy), Friday, 4 January 2013 14:23 (eleven years ago) link

Flat screens are de rigeur in the "ghetto" I live near - I see the boxes in the alley all of the time. People are aspirational and how can you imagine yourself employed and respectable if you don't have a decent tv.

Accepting unemployment is hard when you've never lost a job in your life - suddenly you feel like you have no more "status" than anyone else at unemployment, and there are some pretty desperate people at those places. It's like, you'll never be the same after going to some low-income neighborhood to fill out forms. And the guy next to you is just looking for entry-level work.

The seasonal reps they hire here get dumber and dumber each year. I feel like Casey Stengel with the 1962 Mets.

Example - we took over the call center for a company, and we also took over the 1-800 number previously in use. As a result, we had a whole new phone tree and menu. Because of this, we showed it to these reps in training weeks in advance, posted it out there, and told them the old one was no longer valid.

Despite this, on Day 1, some of these morons continued to reference the old one. Here's why that's ridiculous - the old system was a touchtone system, the new one is voice activated. Meaning touching 'numbers' in the system won't work. You'd think that someone would notice when they dialed into a voice activated system that maybe they were looking at the wrong thing, but no, instead they told callers there was a problem with the phones, and insisted this even after I told them they were looking at the wrong document.

So that gets sorted out, and I have the season reps' supervisor physically address them all, tell them they were looking at the wrong document (and to throw out the old one), and passed out physical copies of the new one. She also made them all sign consent that they understood.

One of those idiots today who even signed off insisted she didn't get a paper copy, today. And, the kicker...we removed all postings of the old menu from anywhere it was archived to prevent anybody even having any ability to reference it, and one of the reps ran in panicked minutes after we got rid of it begging us to put it back. She had still been using it days after we said it was no longer in use.

It basically gets to the point where you have to reward them for their awfulness by giving them less to do, which means less to screw up.

NINO CARTER, Monday, 7 January 2013 16:58 (eleven years ago) link

which means less pay?

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 7 January 2013 17:00 (eleven years ago) link

casharito

Stop Gerrying Me! (onimo), Monday, 7 January 2013 18:05 (eleven years ago) link

Nope, no less pay. They don't make it easy for us. I've gone just to request these folks be placed on improvement plans, only to be reassured by the group that handles that "OH NO, THESE ARE GOOD REPS, THEY DON'T NEED THEM", and then a day later, they make a huge mistake and they sheepishly admit "ok, we can put them on".

I'm thankful that my time with this group is temporary (once it's up and running, we move on to the next one), I just feel bad for the person inheriting these folks. One of them sniped at me because she insisted she didn't get the updated information on the phone system, until we pulled out her emailed certification that she received and understood it over a week ago.

*Sigh*, doing LOTS of breathing exercises today. Some days, you gotta just take a few slaps to the face and know that it's only temporary!

NINO CARTER, Monday, 7 January 2013 19:21 (eleven years ago) link

Wow, those sound like some a-grade morons. I get mad when I hear about people like that and think, how do they get jobs? HOW?!

Una Stubbs' Tears (Trayce), Tuesday, 8 January 2013 00:29 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah, one more day and then I begin making it someone else's problem. And oh is that going to be awesome :).

NINO CARTER, Tuesday, 8 January 2013 00:31 (eleven years ago) link

How DO they get jobs? And what is the root of their problem? Do they just not give a shit? It seems like the most likely explanation.

Je55e, Tuesday, 8 January 2013 03:56 (eleven years ago) link

Oh that's most certainly it. Some of them don't care about anything other than fulfilling the term of their contract and don't give a shit about getting hired full-time.

It's not entirely their fault by any means, but we used to get better contractors 5-6 years ago before they changed providers. I'm not real sympathetic because in the days I was a CS rep, we had a much more difficult system to use, and more responsibilities.

*shrug*. People are happy with the job I did on the project, but I feel bad about the person who has to handle these guys next.

NINO CARTER, Tuesday, 8 January 2013 04:43 (eleven years ago) link

Is this a call center in the US?

carl agatha, Tuesday, 8 January 2013 13:31 (eleven years ago) link

the pentagon?

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 8 January 2013 13:53 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah, it's the US. thankfully, one of the worst offenders was shitcanned today, another never showed back up after getting negative feedback the other day. We have more than enough, no big loss.

It does start to feel like adult babysitting after a while. My manager said she had to break up not one but two fights in one of her training classes.

NINO CARTER, Tuesday, 8 January 2013 23:54 (eleven years ago) link

I just wondered if it was a typically brutal US call center environment (limited bathroom breaks, quota requirements for hours worked) and if it was, I was going to conjecture that the environment might not be conducive to people putting forth their best effort.

carl agatha, Wednesday, 9 January 2013 00:05 (eleven years ago) link

Not to attack your biz or anything. The folks you are talking about probably needed to not work there anymore. I was more responding to Jesse: "what is the root of their problem? Do they just not give a shit?"

carl agatha, Wednesday, 9 January 2013 00:06 (eleven years ago) link

No, that's fine -- it's a fair question. I would say when compared to other call centers, ours is a little bit on the cushier side. They can take breaks as needed (as long as it doesn't exceed like, an hour total all day), and they just work standard 8 hour shifts.

Some of it is the onboardin g process which is not the best, but I think the standards for hires have also been "relaxed" over the years since we changed suppliers for our seasonal help.

NINO CARTER, Wednesday, 9 January 2013 00:10 (eleven years ago) link

the only other gripe I have today, outside of the "I CAN'T LOCATE PANGAEA ON THE MAP"-reps, is that sometimes our Director fires shots before he knows what the target is. Felt really bad today as there was this escalation outside of my unit (for a process owned by a specialized group), so I explained to the best of my knowledge how I thought the process should work, and told him I was copying this other person, who had more information.

He then subjects her to this harsh line of questioning and I'm then forced to apologize to her (to be fair, I should have given her a head's up first) for getting thrown under the bus, as all I was trying to do was introduce the right resource into the conversation, not say "Hey, this is her fault".

It worked out though. It also amazes me that the same guy (who I like, don't get me wrong) feels this strongly about the problem but didn't pick up the phone to call either person. Idk about most but if something's urgent and I ain't getting a reply from someone, I usually give 'em a ring.

NINO CARTER, Wednesday, 9 January 2013 02:14 (eleven years ago) link

no longer have to babysit the reps, today was better, but then at the end of the day I had to explain to another department how their own phone system works (even tho I had nothing to do with building it and presumably they should all know this). wouldn't have been so frustrating if by staying late to explain it, I hadn't been late to someplace I needed to be.

however, in a few weeks, I'm done with this puppy and I'm getting mondo positive feedback for the work I've done, it's just kind of a slog getting there. a marathon really.

NINO CARTER, Thursday, 10 January 2013 03:53 (eleven years ago) link

Is your role an itinerant call center shaper upper? That's kind of cool. Ride in on your horse, clean up the town, ride off into the sunset.

carl agatha, Thursday, 10 January 2013 13:30 (eleven years ago) link

Kinda, but not exactly. I'm the dude that builds new ones, basically, then hand it off to the team that is going to maintain it ongoing. sort of like a theatre director, but with call centers.

I roll off this one at the end of the month and just realized that I already billed more hours this month than I was supposed to, so I basically told everyone they need to start driving the ship yesterday, and took today off. Feels oh so gooood.

NINO CARTER, Friday, 11 January 2013 17:10 (eleven years ago) link

"this minor administrative difficulty LITERALLY MAKES ME WANT TO PUKE!!!"

Neil S, Wednesday, 16 January 2013 12:29 (eleven years ago) link

Not strictly-speaking a "co-worker" but someone has left a list of all the big-name thriller authors they want to poach from competitors on a public printer six floors below the office they work in. If i didn't have such faith in human incompetence, i'd assume they wanted it to be leaked.

Tullamorte Tullamore (ShariVari), Wednesday, 16 January 2013 12:46 (eleven years ago) link

I JUST WANT A SOUNDPROOF CUBICLE

non-elitist melted poo (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 16 January 2013 12:50 (eleven years ago) link

Ahhhhhhhh, you fuckwit! Why you don't you listen, or if you don't understand, just fucking ask!!!! I am not your fucking mother.

Rant over. Thank you for the space to share my frustrations.

PatrickBatemanisascarydude (captain rosie), Wednesday, 16 January 2013 12:57 (eleven years ago) link

> I JUST WANT A SOUNDPROOF CUBICLE

open plan office here and it's usually fine but i sit next to meeting room. at the start of meeting there's always that time when 10 people are in there yapping with the door open for the stragglers, 6ft from where i'm trying to work.

koogs, Wednesday, 16 January 2013 13:02 (eleven years ago) link

My own frustrations about co-workers are as much my problem as theirs I think.

I am a senior developer in our small IT team. There are 2 lead developers who we all report to, so I'm not the most senior. I am also the newest member of (IT) staff.

Currently the other members of my team will frequently pester me non-stop with questions about the work we are doing, which is kind of understandable, but also a lot of RTFM/let me google that for you type questions. I'm often working on the more difficult tasks we've got which means I need to be able to concentrate, and every time I get interrupted I lose my concentration and have to figure out where I got to again. This turns me into something like Jack Nicholson's character in the Shining, so I'm sure somewhere on another messageboard my colleagues are complaining about the grumpy bastard who bites their face off if they ask them more than 10 questions in a row.

In a way I think I'm justified in being pissed off that people aren't using their own initiative to solve problems and just rely on me to fix everything for them, but I'm not handling it in a professional manner at all at the moment. I get increasingly stressed out and then just blow up at them. I guess I have to accept that now I'm in a senior role I have to wipe people's arses for them, I dunno maybe I'm not suited for this... I get on better just being left alone to do my own work. Unfortunately that doesn't happen very often.

Just noise and screaming and no musical value at all. (Colonel Poo), Wednesday, 16 January 2013 13:05 (eleven years ago) link

I had/have that problem too. When I first encountered it (6 years ago, after I'd just received my first promotion), I acted much the same as you. Even swore at a few co-workers now and then. It's frustrating because you feel like you can't get your own work done.

Really though, what I realized (and what I'm sure you'll realize as you get more used to your position) is that it is a sign of respect, that they view you as someone who is knowledgeable and trustworthy. Yes, they do need to be more independent and learn on their own, but one suggestion I have is when you feel stressed and angry, just breathe, and try another approach. Ask them what they've tried already, maybe say "let me show you how to find that for next time". It may mean spending more time with them than you want initially, but over time, it decreases the number of times they come to you. The snapping at them method actually hurts their confidence and might ironically cause them to come to you more.

(This is not meant as a criticism of your method, by any means -- it's just something that takes time to get used to, and this is coming from a dude that struggles from hotheadisms as evidenced by some of my screeds above). Best of luck, but I think it'll get better for you.

NINO CARTER, Wednesday, 16 January 2013 18:12 (eleven years ago) link

and now, ironically, I gripe. lol. one of the managers who's taking over this center from me is fairly new to her position, but she's actually quite good, and I can tell she will be successful. So it bugs me when I see her missing on the little things.

For instance, there's a daily report that is supposed to go out by 9:30 a.m. each day. I handed it off to her last week, we had a meeting the day before (and she has done it before), and assured me she was fine to do it. I gave her some extra materials to help.

I had to remind her 4 times on Day 1, and she assured me the last time that she'd forgotten but was working on it, and yet 5:30 p.m. came and went, and no report went out (and emails came back to me about it), so I had to do it myself. Day 2, I'm out of the office, so I send her a reminder the day before, and she gets it out (an hour late), but it's riddled with errors. Nobody points them out, though, so w/e. Day 3, I send her two reminders when they haven't gone out by noon, and she assures me that she's working on it, but two hours later, no report, and it's quitting time for me, so yet again, I had to do it for her.

Yesterday, I had to remind her two times, and she got it out at like 10:30, but again, lots of formatting/copying errors, despite me giving her an easy to copy template, and written instructions on where to get the new data from.

Today, I'm out of the office, but occasionally I check emails on my phone just to make sure things are ok. Hasn't gone out yet. Despite being out, I sent a reminder.

It just boggles my mind. This is a report our leaders need daily, and they were the ones who asked for it by 9:30 a.m., which I made very clear to her. It also is something I shouldn't be doing as it could result in me getting follow-up questions about things I'm no longer handling (hence why we hand it off), and plus, I'm now been removed from day to day operations, so I don't have the observational data to fill out some of the details anymore (meaning I have to guess).

And it really is just a pre-populated template that you have to update with numbers from a daily report that takes mere minutes to run. If you prep the report the night before, you can literally just plug and send first thing in the morning. How can someone forget so many times to do something when I've given 10-15 reminders, like doesn't that normally set off a bell in your head that it's important?

I'm sure she'll learn this over time, as I wasn't the most organized when I first started, but it's just one of those weird things because she excels at things most newbies don't, yet can't do a simple email each day. Even I didn't have this problem the first time I sent it out, and this was when she was showing me how to use the system to get the daily numbers!

NINO CARTER, Wednesday, 16 January 2013 18:19 (eleven years ago) link

Maybe it's a really boring task and she hates it. Just a thought.

grossly incorrect register (in orbit), Wednesday, 16 January 2013 18:27 (eleven years ago) link

it is a really boring task and most of us hate it. didn't know that meant we didn't have to do it.

NINO CARTER, Wednesday, 16 January 2013 18:28 (eleven years ago) link

Haha no I mean but I can understand the foot-dragging, I have the same impulse.

grossly incorrect register (in orbit), Wednesday, 16 January 2013 18:29 (eleven years ago) link

I have to do about a 10-page report once a week and every time I'm like "REALLY? AGAIN??"

grossly incorrect register (in orbit), Wednesday, 16 January 2013 18:33 (eleven years ago) link

oh lol yeah I mean I get that, it's just like, I wish the switch would go off in her brain that THIS REPORT IS BEING VIEWED BY PEOPLE VERY HIGH UP IN THE COMPANY, and if it has mistakes and doesn't come out...that doesn't look good!

But I also suppose she is probably less used to some of these leaders than my group is, so maybe the magnitude just isn't clear to her. In any case, I'm mostly just annoyed because it's been a 15 minute task that I've had to babysit, whereas everything else has been smooth. It's like watching a really good movie that cuts out with 5 minutes left, I want closure! :)

NINO CARTER, Wednesday, 16 January 2013 18:34 (eleven years ago) link

10-page reports = blech. thankfully this is just an email thingamabobber.

this is why I'm glad I move from projct to project, like a theatre director. very rarely have to deal with that, except for the aforementioned report, which is only a 5-day thing.

NINO CARTER, Wednesday, 16 January 2013 18:35 (eleven years ago) link

She failed to do it again, so even though I wasn't in today, I had to do it (I thought of leaving it alone but knew it wasn't right to spite our leaders due to her own failure). Despite two additional reminders today (overall, I probably delivered 15 reminders over 5 days, and was promised it would be completed on two days where she went home without doing it).

Not an apology once either, or an explanation, so it frustrates me now that I will have to give feedback to this rep's manager over something this silly and avoidable. 4 other colleagues transitioned this report to the ongoing parties without any issues like this, and I had to waste my own time chasing her down over this. Mostly ruined today out of the office cuz I had to keep checking to see if it was done.

Thankfully, it's the last day teh report goes out.

NINO CARTER, Wednesday, 16 January 2013 22:24 (eleven years ago) link

The office manager and I had spent ages and a lot of hair tearing end last year creating a new spreadsheet to report on all our due/owed/overdue charges for our suppliers, cos the CEO insisted on it in a certain format.

It turned out that all along. he'd been emailed that info, directly from the carriers themselves, in the format he needed. Being direct from them it would be far more accurate than our copypastas from invoices. CEO never once mentioned that he got these already (prob ignored his damn emails)

Now that he's left the company, we find this out. Office manager was ropeable. We wasted so much fucking time on that thing!

Una Stubbs' Tears (Trayce), Wednesday, 16 January 2013 22:51 (eleven years ago) link

sneezing co-worker next to me is also apparently incapable of registering humor from anyone around him, answering joking rejoinders w/o humor in return. also while others are concentrating on tasks likes to interrupt to show them something or look at them and start talking even while they're sitting there w/headphones on, concentrating on work, watching footage, etc.

christmas candy bar (al leong), Wednesday, 16 January 2013 22:54 (eleven years ago) link

also rocks an "intentionally schlubby" vibe for some reason.

christmas candy bar (al leong), Wednesday, 16 January 2013 22:55 (eleven years ago) link

can't quite describe him right, but it's in the ballpark.

christmas candy bar (al leong), Wednesday, 16 January 2013 22:56 (eleven years ago) link

What is "intentionally schlubby?" (I'm wondering if I might fall into this category.)

fields of salmon, Monday, 21 January 2013 13:00 (eleven years ago) link

I'm not going to Glasgow as the weather where I live is pretty bad, so the manager that I cancelled with is pretty pissed off at me over the phone. She then sends me a picture of Glasgow with the comment "no snow here" I felt like sending her a picture back of my middle finger, with the message 'no fucks given here"

Stroppy rude women. Ahhhhhhhhh!

PatrickBatemanisascarydude (captain rosie), Monday, 21 January 2013 14:11 (eleven years ago) link

i've been 'working with' the guy in the next cubicle over for several years.

he works weekdays only while the rest of us have to work nights and/or weekends -- although when i used to work nights he would sometimes be at his desk (not working) until 10 or 11 at night. no one knew why.

he's a mild-mannered guy in his mid-50s maybe; he's gone to the trouble of having his emails sent in comic sans. i have no idea what he does -- he doesn't write anything, he doesn't call anyone.

once a day or so, however, he will loudly mutter deeply profane things at his computer. it's kind of weird.

mookieproof, Monday, 21 January 2013 16:42 (eleven years ago) link

Just curious, what do u do?

Je55e, Monday, 21 January 2013 18:52 (eleven years ago) link

i write/edit for a website

mookieproof, Monday, 21 January 2013 19:17 (eleven years ago) link

he proofs, mookie-style :)

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 21 January 2013 19:20 (eleven years ago) link

Everyone shut the hell up, stop talking over each other, and stop pretending to have very important thoughts about tedious minutiae. You're all just talking to sound clever instead of solving any problems and it is doing my head in. Also Captain Drummyhooves behind me I am going to saw your feet off

(deep breaths)

a panda, Malmö (a passing spacecadet), Thursday, 24 January 2013 12:34 (eleven years ago) link

To the incompetent loudmouth guy: don't tell other people how to do their jobs when a) you're not their fucking manager (or anybody's fucking manager for that matter), b) you have a voice like a garden gate in need of oil, and c) you can't do your own job properly, even with step by step instructions.

To the gobshite who has to give an out-loud running commentary about everything they're doing, thereby disturbing everyone else: SHUT. THE. FUCK. UP.

pure dressed up like a white ninja (snoball), Thursday, 24 January 2013 12:52 (eleven years ago) link

Please, tell me more about the content of your inbox.

Neil S, Friday, 25 January 2013 12:16 (eleven years ago) link

The person in front of me has her phone ringer turned up really loud, and lets it ring a few times before answering. Ringing phones give me anxiety--ANSWER THAT FUCKING THING

lets just remember to blame the patriarchy for (in orbit), Friday, 25 January 2013 15:55 (eleven years ago) link

mookiproof is this your coworker

http://www.theleakywiki.com/media/k2/items/cache/ad50363b9b3c0e7cd5049a5778e00aff_XL.jpg

© all the feelings (Austerity Ponies), Friday, 25 January 2013 19:25 (eleven years ago) link

did not realize that was so big sorry

© all the feelings (Austerity Ponies), Friday, 25 January 2013 19:26 (eleven years ago) link

lol Captain Drummyhooves.

my co-workers aren't even annoying. I mean there's a couple, but they just strate dicks.

Fizzles, Friday, 25 January 2013 19:53 (eleven years ago) link

Jesus christ stop contradicting and/or questioning every single fucking thing I tell you - just do it! You don't know better than me! I've been doing this job 4 years and you've been doing it 4 months!

just1n3, Friday, 25 January 2013 20:16 (eleven years ago) link

Expressed relief a printout included decimal points because the previous one had rounded values.. my trainer misunderstood me then screamed over my explanations of what I had been saying. Ran into my boss' office and slammed the door. Fuck off. It's been three months now of this crazy bullshit. She's a contract while they find a permanent account manager for me to work with. Feel like I am being initiated or tested or something.. After ten minutes of her yelling at me (!) I told her I didn't have time to argue and put headphones on. Ugh. This will all be worth it some day..

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Saturday, 26 January 2013 00:03 (eleven years ago) link

FFM, as far as I can tell you have been a paragon of restraint for not flooding this thread with details of this 'trainer'.

ljubljana, Saturday, 26 January 2013 02:00 (eleven years ago) link

I really need to collect the more amusing anecdotes somewhere! Unfortunately most of it is just annoying bullshit. She started this morning in tears because of a rush job she needed to perform.. which I helped her with, quickly and independently! Then two hours later, I'm the worst person in the world.. I just try to keep my cool and dream of a day when she doesn't sit across from me/manage me.

I broke a pen under my desk the other day while I was trapped in one of her rant feats. :/

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Saturday, 26 January 2013 04:57 (eleven years ago) link

mookiproof is this your coworker

nah, too effective

mookieproof, Saturday, 26 January 2013 05:03 (eleven years ago) link

man how is having emotions at work even a thing

other than shame

(panda) (gun) (wrapped gift) (silby), Saturday, 26 January 2013 07:08 (eleven years ago) link

true story the other day I inadvertently pasted the "Captain Drummyhooves" post into an internal irc channel and it looked in context like I was having a meltdown; my boss sent me a stern email about it but was relieved to hear that I was not actually prone to inappropriately flipping out at people in an important chat channel.

(panda) (gun) (wrapped gift) (silby), Saturday, 26 January 2013 07:09 (eleven years ago) link

Boss wants everyone to pitch in more with admin tasks
We often need to download software
Boss has just told me off for requesting an admin password for the computers that we can all (small, trustworthy group) use

ljubljana, Wednesday, 30 January 2013 16:18 (eleven years ago) link

man how is having emotions at work even a thing

I have emotions everywhere. How can you not?? I guess it's ideal to turn off at work but I don't know if I can do that and not hate what I've become, ie trapped in a fake self. :(

lets just remember to blame the patriarchy for (in orbit), Wednesday, 30 January 2013 16:35 (eleven years ago) link

So sorry for everyone else in thread, partic FFM and ljub. Grossssssss.

lets just remember to blame the patriarchy for (in orbit), Wednesday, 30 January 2013 16:36 (eleven years ago) link

orbit otm. If I could hang my emotions in the closet with my coats, believe me I would.

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 30 January 2013 16:37 (eleven years ago) link

I'm going to try to make a whole clean start soon and be relentlessly POSTIVE!!! THAT'S RIGHT, POSITIVE!!! And oh so helpful. Which might be good, on the whole. Maybe acting it will make me feel it, but I still prefer a salty, cranky self.

lets just remember to blame the patriarchy for (in orbit), Wednesday, 30 January 2013 16:39 (eleven years ago) link

Man, I love work in such a rage every day that by the time I pick up my wife I am barely coherent. Not having emotions at work? I would have to either not work here or be dead.

Gollum: "Hot, Ready and Smeagol!" (Phil D.), Wednesday, 30 January 2013 16:41 (eleven years ago) link

captain awesome has now saddled me with an annoying nickname, and just slapped me on the back. he's a nice guy generally but his campaign of forced intimacy is getting a little irritating. he's the type of person who will change his opinion on a dime to match others, which is pretty gross... not so much accomodating other people, but trying to get everyone to like him. think i need to have a chat with him about this nickname.

"HEY BIG DOG HOWS IT GOING!!??? AWESOME DAY TODAY!!! YOU ROCK!" Huge smile, manic gaze, thumbs up. I mean, seems like everyone in the office likes this crap, but I really have no respect for it.

Spectrum, Wednesday, 30 January 2013 16:47 (eleven years ago) link

oh god I really feel like I know this guy

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 30 January 2013 16:52 (eleven years ago) link

When you call him Captain Awesome I think of the guy from the TV show "Chuck."

carl agatha, Wednesday, 30 January 2013 16:55 (eleven years ago) link

I used to work with a dude who did the forced nicknames thing; he was one of my favorite ppl in the entire world because he would never just stick with one, so they just became a stream of meaningless identification placeholders that led to the sneaking suspicion that he couldn't remember anyone's name

as an example: it would not be uncommon for him to greet me with "Hey chief! How's it going, buddy? Can you get that project done by tomorrow, champ? Okay dude, talk to you later man!"

He was also a huge ex-football player who was the biggest office crybaby I've ever seen, basically everything about him was a swirling ball of amusing contradictory awesome

I realize this is the thread for annoying coworkers but I miss that dude and I'm annoyed we don't work together anymore

Bel-Air the Fresh Prince, sitting in a chair (DJP), Wednesday, 30 January 2013 17:02 (eleven years ago) link

I'm trying to imagine what that ex-coworker must have been like and all I'm picturing is the Cat from Red Dwarf...

"Oooooowwwwww! Hey buddy! What's happening? <James Brown spin> Better check myself in the mirror... <takes out small hand mirror from inside pocket of jacket> Oooooooooowwww! Looking good! OK buddy, I gotta run, catch you later! <exits room>"

Prisoner: Cell Block J/K (snoball), Wednesday, 30 January 2013 18:07 (eleven years ago) link

remove the Cat's inherent suaveness and replace it with Rimmer's terrified neuroses (without the anal judgment) and you're getting closer

Ima R.A.E.D. (DJP), Wednesday, 30 January 2013 18:08 (eleven years ago) link

Currently going through a farcical redundancy process where everyone pretty much loses their jobs and has to apply for new ones. The level of care and attention being paid is evident in the fact that one of the job descriptions includes "reviewing psecialise dictonaroes".

Head Cheerleader, Homecoming Queen and part-time model (ShariVari), Wednesday, 30 January 2013 19:55 (eleven years ago) link

First, I'm sorry that you are going through a redundancy process, which is never pleasant however farcical.

Second, LOL what?

carl agatha, Wednesday, 30 January 2013 20:00 (eleven years ago) link

Thanks!

I'm assuming "specialist dictionaries" but who the heck knows at this point.

Head Cheerleader, Homecoming Queen and part-time model (ShariVari), Wednesday, 30 January 2013 20:02 (eleven years ago) link

It's like half pigeon Spanish, half typos. Especialista dictionario

carl agatha, Wednesday, 30 January 2013 20:05 (eleven years ago) link

I'd have gone with "specialized dictionaries" but yeah.

lets just remember to blame the patriarchy for (in orbit), Wednesday, 30 January 2013 20:06 (eleven years ago) link

I was going to go for Portuguese but I've just been working on a project for a mysterious Portuguese entity whose name ends in -oes (actually ões) so it's kind of on my brain

a panda, Malmö (a passing spacecadet), Wednesday, 30 January 2013 20:08 (eleven years ago) link

Also I accidentally apologised to silby on the IA thread instead of here so sorry here too silby

a panda, Malmö (a passing spacecadet), Wednesday, 30 January 2013 20:09 (eleven years ago) link

Hey chief! How's it going, buddy? Can you get that project done by tomorrow, champ? Okay dude, talk to you later man!

A friend of mine used to do this at parties - start a conversation with someone and address them as one of these after another until the person became visibly angry, then wander off.

誤訳侮辱, Wednesday, 30 January 2013 21:05 (eleven years ago) link

I only encountered this once at work. A big personality guy, who addressed me as champ, buddy, etc. I started replying in kind, cheerfully addressing him as sport and chief until he quit, and then I kind of missed it.

© all the feelings (Austerity Ponies), Friday, 1 February 2013 21:04 (eleven years ago) link

chin up, tiger

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 1 February 2013 22:20 (eleven years ago) link

it's annoying when people yell something from the other corner of the office. can't you wake up like an educated person come to the other's spot and ask for your stuff in a normal voice? is that too crazy a request... also, so glad this certain lady is on vacations, hadn't realized how much I hated her until I had a chat with someone, it turns out everyone does. she's 100% expert at doing the stabbing you in the eyes while smiling etc thing. I can't avoid talking to her at work and I find it very hard to answer to her condescending (and often poisonous) remarks. a couple of days ago I discovered her laughing when a consultant was helping me with some small mistake I made, could not believe it.

very impressive thing in css (wolves lacan), Monday, 4 February 2013 13:41 (eleven years ago) link

he's back - and this time he has dairylea dunkers

conrad, Tuesday, 5 February 2013 10:57 (eleven years ago) link

two weeks pass...

omg omg omg

go to party leather (ENBB), Friday, 22 February 2013 16:06 (eleven years ago) link

My co-worker the one who is awful and crazy and weird and inappropriate.

Ha I'm so upset I'm still shaking.

go to party leather (ENBB), Friday, 22 February 2013 16:06 (eleven years ago) link

I asked her a question about this budget she has access to but I don't so she looks it up and gets me the answer right away. Then she folds her hands, leans on her desk and says, "You see how I just answered you like that right away? It would be nice if you did that for me too." In the most condescending, snotty and completely ridiculous way you can imagine.

go to party leather (ENBB), Friday, 22 February 2013 16:07 (eleven years ago) link

I just looked at her and said, "Are you kidding me? That was the snottiest thing I've ever heard and you can't talk to me that way. You can't talk to anyone that way? Are you serious? What planet do you come from?"

Then I went and was like really shaking and worked up and told her supervisor because fuck that was just totally inappropriate.

When I got back to my desk she apologized if her tone came off wrong. I asked if there was something she was waiting for from me and she said that there wasn't. It's just a feeling she has. A total bullshit feeling btw but that's not even the point. I honestly don't think anyone has ever spoken to me in that exact tone before. I also don't think I've ever been that close to hitting someone in my life.

go to party leather (ENBB), Friday, 22 February 2013 16:09 (eleven years ago) link

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH. I HATE HER.

go to party leather (ENBB), Friday, 22 February 2013 16:10 (eleven years ago) link

Reading that now it doesn't sound that bad but if you could have heard the way she said or seen her smug fucking face. Oh she's a horrible horrible person.

go to party leather (ENBB), Friday, 22 February 2013 16:13 (eleven years ago) link

it did sound bad

buzza, Friday, 22 February 2013 16:14 (eleven years ago) link

Otm. And if the tone is anything like the one I'm imagining in my head then she's awful.

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 22 February 2013 16:15 (eleven years ago) link

It wasn't just her tone - it was her words, and the order in which she arranged them, too. Fuckin' muppet.

karl lagerlout (suzy), Friday, 22 February 2013 16:15 (eleven years ago) link

It sounds that bad to me! Kudos to you for saying something back because I would have been speechless.

this is called money bags (Phil D.), Friday, 22 February 2013 16:16 (eleven years ago) link

I'm kind of surprised I did! But she does things like this all the time and I just couldn't take it anymore. When I got back to my desk and she apologized I told her it was completely inappropriate and that she needs to watch herself and think before talking to people like that because it's simply not OK. That's also when I was like oh what's it that you're waiting for from me again? Oh, right nothing. You're just insane. OK, I didn't actually say that last part.

go to party leather (ENBB), Friday, 22 February 2013 16:19 (eleven years ago) link

had a similar experience w/ a v difficult coworker yesterday where he gave me a really superior tone and was dismissive & belittling toward me when in actuality he was just uninformed and literally RONG abt what he was talking abt.

i was speechless at the time and i didnt think that it bothered me but it p much stayed on my mind the whole day since then

johnny crunch, Friday, 22 February 2013 16:31 (eleven years ago) link

unrelatedly, i accidentally gave myself prob the worst papercut ever via a manilla folder this morning that fukkin hurt so bad ugh ugh

johnny crunch, Friday, 22 February 2013 16:35 (eleven years ago) link

I walked into her supervisors office and I was angrier than I can maybe ever remember being. I was like, "I'm about to smack M. right across her smug little face or just walk out and quit because she is way out of line and completely inappropriate in how she talks me." Then I calmed down and told her not to worry because since I've never hit anyone in my life I don't actually plan to start today. TBH I'm really glad I said something to both M. and her supervisor.

go to party leather (ENBB), Friday, 22 February 2013 16:36 (eleven years ago) link

x-post - OUCH

go to party leather (ENBB), Friday, 22 February 2013 16:36 (eleven years ago) link

Aargh I'm riled up just reading your account of what she did!

Je55e, Friday, 22 February 2013 16:53 (eleven years ago) link

ya, E, sounds like she was way out of line. i would have gotten very shout-y had that been said to me!

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 22 February 2013 17:53 (eleven years ago) link

Good thinking going to her supervisor too. Productive!

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 22 February 2013 17:56 (eleven years ago) link

Good god, E! I'm glad you said something. Teach me your ways!

Today I was talked to (note: not "had a conversation") for 20 minutes because I had not stapled a group of sheets before putting them into a three ring duotang. Then, my trainer decided that she had to resign because I had told her that I "know everything," which I had not implied in the slightest. Un/fortunately for me, she did not resign. Yesterday she came into the bathroom mumbling "I am wasting my time training this stupid bitch" and told me she was allowed to talk, when I told her I was in one of the stalls. I tried to explain I just wanted her to know that she wasn't alone, but she kept mumbling about how she can talk if she wants to. We don't have an HR department & she has worked with the president for 25 years. Sigh.

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Friday, 22 February 2013 21:03 (eleven years ago) link

yeesh

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 22 February 2013 21:04 (eleven years ago) link

Fucking hell. Is there absolutely nowhere for you to go to lodge a formal complaint?

emil.y, Friday, 22 February 2013 21:07 (eleven years ago) link

No path I can really see, because the other woman I report to (another President's friend) hears & ignores it all. So I keep my head & tone level, try not to cry when I am told that I have to "be spoken to like a nine year old," and quietly investigate ways to complete projects without asking my trainer questions (email coworkers, find old examples.) Today I told her "if you resign you are doing that because you want to, not because I asked you to. I would like to continue to be trained on this job because I feel I will be able to do this really well in the future." I know I will never get in trouble because I am doing a great job, it's just taking me twice as long because this asshole sits across from me and repeats herself all day. One question = ten minutes of rambling, repetitive drivel that often contradicts and/or escalates in hostility if any follow up question is asked.

Most of these outbursts happen after the VP (brought in by the Pres a few years ago) dumps a project on my trainer's lap. I could psychoanalyse the shit out of this situation. I should write a book.

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Friday, 22 February 2013 21:16 (eleven years ago) link

Would read, especially if you interspersed the analysis with makeup tips and pictures of your nails.

carl agatha, Friday, 22 February 2013 21:31 (eleven years ago) link

I hope that didn't come across as though I think that's all you would offer in a book. It would be a good book anyway! I just like your nails.

carl agatha, Friday, 22 February 2013 21:32 (eleven years ago) link

I'm painting my nails right now, hah! The Devil Wears Nail Art. xp

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Friday, 22 February 2013 21:33 (eleven years ago) link

I've been too exhausted to do anything other than rant about my trainer & paint my nails lately, so no offence taken! ;)

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Friday, 22 February 2013 21:35 (eleven years ago) link

Jesus Christ ffm. That makes me want to go to your office and kick that lady in the face.

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 22 February 2013 21:38 (eleven years ago) link

Not the nail art thing. The meanness :)

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 22 February 2013 21:39 (eleven years ago) link

MEMO TO COWORKERS OF ENBB AND FFM: these ladies are fucking rad and know their shit and you better bow the fuck down or I will kick you all in the face.

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 22 February 2013 21:40 (eleven years ago) link

Sometimes as I listen to her talk I do fantasize about just pushing her face into the wall. I'm almost two feet taller than her though, it wouldn't be right.

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Friday, 22 February 2013 21:40 (eleven years ago) link

that's where you are wrong. It would be incredibly right

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 22 February 2013 21:44 (eleven years ago) link

Next time I will try to channel my inner ENBB and be more firm about the whole situation, but this woman escalates like a madman.

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Friday, 22 February 2013 21:54 (eleven years ago) link

Idk,, I think I would take her side and say, in a low and creepy tone, with your face right in hers, something super fucking psycho and violent and threatening - no one will believe her, it'll make her look super crazy, AND she'll be shit-scared of you.

Win/win imo!!

just1n3, Friday, 22 February 2013 22:02 (eleven years ago) link

You guys, I'm burnt out at my job and I am wanting to think about starting to look for something new, but your stories scare the shit out of me. They're weird around my office, but nothing even remotely like FFM and ENBB's coworkers.

Je55e, Friday, 22 February 2013 22:10 (eleven years ago) link

Idk,, I think I would take her side and say, in a low and creepy tone, with your face right in hers, something super fucking psycho and violent and threatening - no one will believe her, it'll make her look super crazy, AND she'll be shit-scared of you.

Win/win imo!!

!!

this made me LOL harder than anyone has LOLed before.

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Friday, 22 February 2013 22:59 (eleven years ago) link

Christ, FFM and ENBB, my heart beat faster just reading both of those.

ljubljana, Saturday, 23 February 2013 02:57 (eleven years ago) link

Jesus these ppl tho

lance armstrong will have been delighted (darraghmac), Saturday, 23 February 2013 03:03 (eleven years ago) link

I'm always gobsmacked by how patently TERRIBLE, horrible human beings somehow end up in the good graces of some idiotic manager/VP somewhere and live to spend 20 years ruining coworkers lives without reprisal.
I know of two such people in my office. Thankfully I haven't crossed paths with either professionally but christ, the stories.

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 23 February 2013 03:16 (eleven years ago) link

^^^^^^ this!!!

just1n3, Saturday, 23 February 2013 03:29 (eleven years ago) link

xp to lex: i used to often think of doing this with horrible customers, like, just saying something totally horrendous, bc i knew no one would actually believe them and it would probably drive them crazy

just1n3, Saturday, 23 February 2013 03:31 (eleven years ago) link

It's a definite dream move! When I was a lonely kid I found letting my bully "catch me" looking at her then looking away and smiling to myself drove her nuts. She came up to me a few times asking "what's so funny?" and seemed thrown off in general. May employ.

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Saturday, 23 February 2013 12:22 (eleven years ago) link

I told a coworker last week that grownups dont accost other grownups in corridors, did the trick tbph

lance armstrong will have been delighted (darraghmac), Saturday, 23 February 2013 12:24 (eleven years ago) link

One time when we dropped some hints (she & I sit in a quad with two others) she started whining about how we "don't understand her pain"(!) and how if no one wanted to talk, fine, she wouldn't talk in a 30 minute drama fit. I wish I thought your line would work, d!

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Saturday, 23 February 2013 12:31 (eleven years ago) link

eyebrows, im tellin you, its in the eyebrows

lance armstrong will have been delighted (darraghmac), Saturday, 23 February 2013 13:28 (eleven years ago) link

Her pain??

Je55e, Saturday, 23 February 2013 18:39 (eleven years ago) link

Oh yes, her pain. IIRC it was because the VP had dropped an assignment on her lap and we stopped listening/responding after about 30 minutes of bitching to us about how busy she was/how she didn't have time for it.

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Saturday, 23 February 2013 18:53 (eleven years ago) link

It kind of sounds like she's having a nervous breakdown, tbh. (Not that it would excuse anything if she was, and maybe I'm naive in thinking that people can't be so utterly horrible without some major cause.)

emil.y, Saturday, 23 February 2013 18:55 (eleven years ago) link

They totally can, unbelievably and depressingly.

ljubljana, Saturday, 23 February 2013 19:31 (eleven years ago) link

I do think that might be the case. I often feel bad for her when she's just being stressed/sad and not overtly dickish.

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Saturday, 23 February 2013 20:10 (eleven years ago) link

it's really terrible working a job where you don't have the ability to make formal complaints. at my last place, the HR guy sat across from the CEO, who would demand to find out what employee was complaining so he could call them and ream them out for complaining about other personnel rather than doing their jobs. it was awful.

eh mec, elle est ou ma caisse? (ytth), Sunday, 24 February 2013 04:47 (eleven years ago) link

so grateful to work for a huge corporation rn.

my god i only have 2 useless beyblade (silby), Sunday, 24 February 2013 06:21 (eleven years ago) link

do yo u know this person ?

the snagger - When assigned a task to do she makes it seem like her completing the task is dependent on someone else doing some associated task first before she can continue, thus not doing the task and blaming someone else for it when really it was not necessary to make the tsk dpendent on that other person at all, they just didnt want to do the task.

Brian Eno's Mother (Latham Green), Friday, 1 March 2013 15:24 (eleven years ago) link

All my coworkers!

Talked same coworker who hated my guts last Friday off the ledge yesterday. Lady needs a vacation. No one should be yelling on the phone at 6:30 Thursday!

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Friday, 1 March 2013 18:24 (eleven years ago) link

President told all my coworkers not to contact me til he'd had a chance to call me (he appeared in the office at noon to explain the layoffs to those who remained employed,) but then never called me. A pox on them all. Many talked to me anyway. :)

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Friday, 8 March 2013 19:21 (eleven years ago) link

Back at the end of January, my department (marketing) received an email from Exec. VP A, about an industry event that we're cosponsoring. She asked for help in promoting it, and said that she, our CEO, another VP, and Reg. Mgr. B would be attending.

Since part of my job involves our social media properties, I asked who could cover this event for us, and was told to reach out (ugh) to the attendees, so I contacted Reg. Mgr. B, who agreed to blog and tweet for us.

Yesterday, our CEO sends an email to Reg. Mgr. B telling her about the show and letting her know that lots of potential prospects will be there. Reg. Mgr. B replies, saying she's excited because she's going and will be covering for social media for marketing.

CEO contacts Exec. VP A and says, "Do you know anything about Reg. Mgr. B going to this show?" Exec. VP A - who originally gave me the list of attending people that included Reg. Mgr. B - says, "Nope, I don't know anything about it."

Now, the CEO is up my boss's ass (he's an SVP) asking, "Did someone in your department tell Reg. Mgr. B to attend this show? I need to be in the loop on these things."

Utter insanity. Luckily I save every email.

ARE YOU HIRING A NANNY OR A SHAMAN (Phil D.), Tuesday, 12 March 2013 14:33 (eleven years ago) link

facepalm

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 12 March 2013 16:05 (eleven years ago) link

stuff like this just turns me into

http://theinfosphere.org/images/thumb/1/11/Roberto.jpg/225px-Roberto.jpg

ARE YOU HIRING A NANNY OR A SHAMAN (Phil D.), Tuesday, 12 March 2013 16:10 (eleven years ago) link

guy in my office talks and acts like a sports announcer. always slightly too loud, makes a point of reading unfunny things on twitter aloud, constantly peppers his speech with stuff like 'my buddy x does _______; really great guy'. uses the word bro without irony. is a jets fan.

today he was training this new employee on something fairly simple and it just went on and on and on. he may or may not be a bad person, but either way i want him to shut the fuck up.

mookieproof, Tuesday, 12 March 2013 23:01 (eleven years ago) link

jets fan. say no more

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 12 March 2013 23:02 (eleven years ago) link

Now, the CEO is up my boss's ass (he's an SVP) asking, "Did someone in your department tell Reg. Mgr. B to attend this show? I need to be in the loop on these things."

Utter insanity. Luckily I save every email.

Yep, Ive had this. Same applies. Email and save it all. Couple weeks ago boss accused me and the office manager of insisting "for months" that some credit we were due from a carrier was $25k worth.

What I'd actually said that IF I was calculating it right - and I was not at all sure I was and needed to confirm - that figure would be right. I also had only said this TWO DAYS EALIER. Months my ass. I showed the office mgr the email and she went into him with it. No apology for bein wrong, of course. Hes never wrong.

a kissed out red popemobile (Trayce), Tuesday, 12 March 2013 23:18 (eleven years ago) link

some guy from my team left when we moved our offices, but now he's back after about 5 months on a freelance project. he now stops by every day to chit chat with everyone here like he never left, and his contract was just extended. i can't help but to loathe this guy, he's a 30-something coddled mamas boy who still lives at home and can work whenever he pleases. if i spent 5 months unemployed i'd be living on the streets.

i'll have to get over it at some point, but everytime he stops by i'm filled with rage. on the one hand i'm resentful of the easy life he gets to lead, and on the other i don't respect the dude ... acts with this self-assured confidence but has never even lived on his own. whatever, i'll get a handle on it.

Spectrum, Thursday, 14 March 2013 14:21 (eleven years ago) link

god, everyone is so fucking TOUCHY here sometimes! it's driving me nuts. small sample:

last november, i worked with this big shot guy over in the big shot Office of Big Shots and Big Shot Apprentices to draft up a webpage. it was supposed to be posted last november, but due to another big shot being a big asshole, the whole thing got delayed until this coming monday.

so, today i email the guy who helped me draft up the webpage just to remind him that we're going to post this thing on Monday. i say, "I'm checking in to make sure that we're ready to go on Monday. We've already mocked up the page, so it should be ready to go." i was saying that mainly for benefit of other cc'd people on the email, since they didn't know that the page was already mocked up. i then go on to thank him for his help in this project, bla bla bla.

i get back this response:

"What do you mean, "We mocked up the page that will appear on Challenge.gov"?

I prepared it weeks ago."

so since he's an up and comer in the Office of Neurotic Assholes, i apologized for not being clear and said that yes, he mocked it up weeks ago (even though it was actually ME who prepared all the language for it, but never mind).

ugh, come on weekend just get here

( ( ( ( ( ( ( (Z S), Friday, 15 March 2013 18:18 (eleven years ago) link

at least it'll get here a day early in a week or two :\ :/

my god i only have 2 useless beyblade (silby), Saturday, 16 March 2013 04:32 (eleven years ago) link

there's this guy on my team who laughs after everything he says. like, riotous, uproaring laughter after the most pointless, mundane things. it's not like he's saying anything funny, or anyone else is saying anything funny. he wants everyone to laugh with him without making the effort to be funny.

of course i dislike him after he called the obscuro music stuff i hung up in my cube "pretentious" in some snide, backhanded way (and yet he has Gustav Klimt postcards in his). in meetings he sits like he's the king of my department, and a few times i saw him staring at me with these really creepy eyes. whenever i'm talking to someone he'll act weird and try to bring attention to himself like darting around and making funny faces, or if I'm talking to one of the girls in my department he'll sneak up out of nowhere and try to bring the conversation to himself. i think this dude is nuts, but everyone seems to like him because he forces everyone to laugh with him. i just want to say one day, "yeah, you're right, turning a doorknob is fucking hilarious"

Spectrum, Wednesday, 20 March 2013 12:58 (eleven years ago) link

Our malpractice insurance provider sent us a notice that on our renewal application, we'd failed to provide the number of hours that my boss works per year.

Last week, I'd given the application to my boss and put a flag on the # of hours area so she would be sure to fill it out, but she ignored it and mailed it off.

Her reaction to their request for the missing information: "Oh, argh. Why do they need to know that?"

Je55e, Tuesday, 2 April 2013 18:21 (eleven years ago) link

She says that a lot.

When the bank wanted her home address when setting up our credit card system, when her mortgage company asked for her addresses for the last X years, when a bar association asked for her membership number on their membership renewal form. She just skips the question if she thinks it's dumb.

Je55e, Tuesday, 2 April 2013 18:29 (eleven years ago) link

She's a hero for our times.

carl agatha, Tuesday, 2 April 2013 18:42 (eleven years ago) link

I once skipped the "Mr/Mrs/Ms" section on a hospital form and got yelled at in a full waiting room. This was after they told me to fill out lots of pages and wouldn't give me a pen.

lets just remember to blame the patriarchy for (in orbit), Tuesday, 2 April 2013 20:02 (eleven years ago) link

just be like FUCK YOU AND YOUR PATRIARCHY and dance at them.

Room 227 (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 4 April 2013 03:38 (eleven years ago) link

Jesus, they wouldn't even give you a pen?

Je55e, Thursday, 4 April 2013 04:39 (eleven years ago) link

i think i might need to find a new job. whenever i try to express myself or i'm feeling good, one of the people here has some snarky bullshit to give me. like, laughing boy made some backhanded remark to everyone about the weird artsy crap i hung up in my cube as being "pretensious", and now that i'm feeling more confident thanks to therapy, captain awesome did some passive aggressive spiel that i'm pretty sure was about me. he was like "well at least i don't talk in monotone like this hurrhurrhurr" ... and I know that I talk in a monotone sometimes because of my anxiety, and I figure it had to be about me, why the hell else would he say that in listening distance from me right after i'm being more confident around the office.

like, i don't get along with these people that well, i find their personalities grating, but i bite my tongue and try to find something about them i like, get to know them, etc. i'm a friggin professional, i don't say dumb passive aggressive bullshit about them as tempted as I am.

geez, when I first got here my boss totally crossed the line w/ me. she flirted with me in totally inappropriate ways, like playing with her bra strap and jiggling her boobs, touching my hands, pulling her shirt down when I talked to her, putting her pen up to her mouth w/ dick sucking lips and shit like that. in my pre-therapy messed up state i was like "woah, maybe she's into me", so I went along with it, then she made some public announcement around everyone that co-workers shouldn't fraternize with their bosses ... which was totally about me! i was so fucking embarassed when she said that because I know she talked about it with other people at the office, and she's the one who started that shit! god damn this place is weird.

Spectrum, Thursday, 4 April 2013 13:23 (eleven years ago) link

errr, pretentious. anyway, life's too short to deal with this crap. i can't really think of anything redeeming about this job except that it gives me a paycheck twice a month.

Spectrum, Thursday, 4 April 2013 13:25 (eleven years ago) link

Please don't ever use the term "dick sucking lips" again.

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Thursday, 4 April 2013 14:10 (eleven years ago) link

yeah, i know it's gross, but i have no idea how else to describe it. "a look on her face with obvious sexual overtones" ... sounds like i'm writing a legal complaint.

Spectrum, Thursday, 4 April 2013 14:14 (eleven years ago) link

anywho, i shoulda left this job after that happened.

Spectrum, Thursday, 4 April 2013 14:19 (eleven years ago) link

FFM OTM

kinder, Thursday, 4 April 2013 16:14 (eleven years ago) link

anyone else want to weigh in here on "dick sucking lips"?

Spectrum, Thursday, 4 April 2013 16:42 (eleven years ago) link

Hey thanks for cutting off my answer so you could go round all the men in the room one by one and listen to them say "dunno" instead, maybe next time you should just say "does anyone know anything about x but please only answer if you don't so I can feel cleverer than everyone"

(excerpts from sleep-deprived and taking shit too personally vol. 34950)

susuwatari teenage riot (a passing spacecadet), Friday, 5 April 2013 11:18 (eleven years ago) link

ok was totally overreacting yesterday, stressed out as all hell. except for the weird supervisor flirtation shit. new boss boss is totally giving me the cold shoulder, makes an obvious point of ignoring me during meetings. today captain awesome was like "dude, she's ignoring you" and i'm like 'yeah'. not a good sign.

Spectrum, Friday, 5 April 2013 14:05 (eleven years ago) link

dude I'm sure all the ringtones and alarm sounds will still be on your new phone when you get home and you don't have to try them all in the office

also this is the 3rd new smartphone you've got in 5-6 months, guess you earn more than me, congrats

susuwatari teenage riot (a passing spacecadet), Tuesday, 9 April 2013 08:43 (eleven years ago) link

anyone else want to weigh in here on "dick sucking lips"?

― Spectrum, Thursday, April 4, 2013 4:42 PM (5 days ago)

first up, "dick sucking lips" shouldn't be used to describe miming fellatio, which seems to be what was happening. it should be used to describe a certain appearance to the lips that lead you to believe that they would be good for sucking dick. is that the case here? if so, i've edited your post to reflect proper usage:

geez, when I first got here my boss totally crossed the line w/ me. she flirted with me in totally inappropriate ways, like playing with her bra strap and jiggling her boobs, touching my hands, pulling her shirt down when I talked to her, putting her pen up to her mouth and smacking it all over her dick sucking lips and shit like that. i still have the pen sitting beside my computer. i stole it from her office. in my pre-therapy messed up state i was like "woah, maybe she's into me", so I went along with it, then she made some public announcement around everyone that co-workers shouldn't fraternize with their bosses ... which was totally about me! i was so fucking embarassed when she said that because I know she talked about it with other people at the office, and she's the one who started that shit! god damn this place is weird.

― Spectrum, Thursday, April 4, 2013 1:23 PM (5 days ago)

but, even now that know the proper usage, i'd recommend avoiding the term.

dylannn, Tuesday, 9 April 2013 08:56 (eleven years ago) link

I'm here for absolution. I'm about to cut my fingernails at my desk, in my office with the door closed. Bless me ILX for I'm about to sin.

carl agatha, Wednesday, 17 April 2013 14:10 (eleven years ago) link

oh if you're in your own office with a closed door I do not see this as being a problem.

Airwrecka Bliptrap Blapmantis (ENBB), Wednesday, 17 April 2013 14:28 (eleven years ago) link

Thank you. The deed is done. I feel SO MUCH BETTER. I hate typing with long nails. *shudder*

carl agatha, Wednesday, 17 April 2013 14:38 (eleven years ago) link

you're absolved since u have an office with a door. rest easy, carl

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 17 April 2013 15:37 (eleven years ago) link

Just hacked my nails back this morning to avoid that terrible, terrible typing-scraping feeling. (Deed done in my bedroom).

ljubljana, Wednesday, 17 April 2013 15:49 (eleven years ago) link

You can just about whatever you want in your own office, lawd knows I do.

kate78, Wednesday, 17 April 2013 18:28 (eleven years ago) link

Why did Boss' shredder stopped shredding? B/c it overheated when she was using it with the space heater pointed at it 2 or 3" away.

Je55e, Wednesday, 17 April 2013 20:29 (eleven years ago) link

Man why even ask for my summary of yesterday's crisis which you were not even slightly interested in helping w/ yesterday if you are just going to talk over it and disagree with minor aspects of my wording

if you know so much more about it than the people who actually had to deal with it then maybe you should have fixed it for us and sent the 200 apologetic emails I had to send for someone else's fuckup

(this rather closely resembles my last post on this thread and yes it is directed at the same person, and no they are not my boss or it might be acceptable)

susuwatari teenage riot (a passing spacecadet), Friday, 26 April 2013 10:01 (eleven years ago) link

i work in a huge office building in the suburbs. its parking lots are also huge and far flung.

i just saw a dude in a trans-siberian orchestra tshirt and cargo pants rollerblade from his car to the front door of the building.

goole, Monday, 6 May 2013 15:29 (eleven years ago) link

teaching u how to live

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 6 May 2013 15:33 (eleven years ago) link


[11:54:42 AM] N_____: you not on skype
[11:54:53 AM] N_____: kevin is looking for you
[11:54:59 AM] Trayce: ?
[11:55:02 AM] Trayce: youre skyping me!

...I dont even.

It is like ganging up on Enya (Trayce), Tuesday, 7 May 2013 01:58 (eleven years ago) link

ugh can someone googlefy my name pls stupid cut n paste.

It is like ganging up on Enya (Trayce), Tuesday, 7 May 2013 02:40 (eleven years ago) link

y

groovy replacement (electricsound), Tuesday, 7 May 2013 02:49 (eleven years ago) link

thankye kindley

It is like ganging up on Enya (Trayce), Tuesday, 7 May 2013 03:03 (eleven years ago) link

Boss' computer is about 5 years old, and it has been starting to have problems.

Couple of weeks ago IT guy fixed it and recommended buying a new system. Boss says that IT guy just wants to score a commission from Dell (on a computer that would cost barely $1,000) and "this one is working just fine."

Today, more problems. IT guy works for a couple hours and says it's time for a new computer. Boss says, "This one is working just fine."

Je55e, Thursday, 16 May 2013 16:20 (ten years ago) link

Boss' diagnosis: computer should not be left on overnight because "It's well-known that that's how hackers get in."

Je55e, Thursday, 16 May 2013 16:22 (ten years ago) link

also, elves

why does Kanye say he was based on the novel "Push" by Sapphire? (sic), Thursday, 16 May 2013 16:29 (ten years ago) link

I have a temporary co-worker (a new contact person on a biannual sheep breeders directory) who is making me want to drink antifreeze. This is her first time coordinating any sort of project like this, and I've had to talk her off the ledge and let her know the project is going well at least 2x daily for the last 10 days. The upside is that she's directed some of that nervous energy into selling ads, so we have 2 to 3 times the number of advertisers from the previous directory.

One of the advertisers pulled his ad because I pointed out the bad photoshop job he'd done on the picture he wanted to run. (Imagine a digital version of the ruined fresco of Jesus in Spain from last year.)

What makes a man start threads? (WilliamC), Thursday, 16 May 2013 16:43 (ten years ago) link

To the IT guy in response to his saying her computer is old (6 years old, not 5): "Look, the reality is that computers are obsolete the second you pay for them." (so they remain forever at the same level of obsolescence??)

Je55e, Thursday, 16 May 2013 16:50 (ten years ago) link

She's probably already wasted $1000 worth of IT's time keeping this one around

resulting paste of mashed cheez poops (silby), Thursday, 16 May 2013 18:37 (ten years ago) link

Well yeh. Our IT is a consultant, whom we pay hourly.

Wm, I wish I could see the bad photoshop. Imagining a flat-faced sheep. A lamb, like the ruined fresco of the lamb of God.

Je55e, Thursday, 16 May 2013 19:19 (ten years ago) link

I would post it, but I don't want to cross the streams of work and ilx life too much. It was a backdrop shot of a winning ram, and they'd painted over it in its two colors (tan body, black face and legs) so that it just looked like a cardboard silhouette. I think they must have cancelled the ad out of embarrassment, but they said they were cancelling it because I had the gall to ask for a higher-resolution version of the photo. (They sent 338 x 224 pixels, roughly postage-stamp size at print resolution.)

What makes a man start threads? (WilliamC), Thursday, 16 May 2013 19:37 (ten years ago) link

training with coworker to learn new tasks that may come up in the coming weeks. as far as I know, I'm just helping pick up some slack. Find myself trapped in this whirling nervous vortex of "uhmmm so here is EVERYTHING i do" that was so unending & tooootally confusing & overwhelming & I was like "Okay, I'm gonna stop you there. My brain only can hold so much the first time round, we can go over things as they come up." and pray that 90% of what he told me I won't have to do for at least a little while. Fuuuuuck me O_O

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 16 May 2013 19:48 (ten years ago) link

some people really suck at dispensing *pertinent* information

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 16 May 2013 19:49 (ten years ago) link

One of my coworkers has been sick all week. Really felt bad for him. He's wracked with a cough, etc. Friday, during the lunch hour, he's on a personal phone call in his office. "Oh, I'm doing better. Except it's all coming out the other end." "That Mucinex really thins you out, if you know what I mean." Yeah, well you'll be crappin' too in about a week!"

I'm just sitting out here in my cubicle trying to eat a veggie burger. You have an office with a door. Use it.

how's life, Sunday, 19 May 2013 10:53 (ten years ago) link

Our temporary HR lead may be the single worst person I have ever encountered.

She has been brought on to oversee the recruitment of a dozen new staff. In two months we haven't recruited anyone despite hundreds of interviews. Otherwise fine candidates have been vetoed for not being 'spunky' enough, having 'the wrong vibe' or because she 'wasn't really feeling them'.

She'll answer a shared phone line, say "uh, what? I don't know what you're talking about" and hang up. Might be a potential new customer, might not, who knows?

She yelled 'you're not very good at your job, are you" at our IT department (overworked ppl in Bangalore serving a company of tens of thousands) because they couldn't make her computer go faster.

She'll grab handfuls of chocolates given to us by clients to share with the office and bray through a full mouth "isn't it amazing how I never put on weight?"

She encouraged one of my colleagues to have a cupcake by saying 'it's not as though you're "big" big'.

She has gone into interviews with the wrong people's CVs and cover letters.

She's so desperate to show of how fluent she is in Spanish she'll do pre-interview vetting entirely in castellano. Which would be fine if it didn't mean we keep calling people for interview who aren't proficient in English - something she would have realised had she not been showing off.

Ugh.

хуто-хуторянка (ShariVari), Friday, 24 May 2013 17:04 (ten years ago) link

O_o

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 24 May 2013 17:06 (ten years ago) link

Wow! She is terrible.

carl agatha, Friday, 24 May 2013 17:15 (ten years ago) link

lol. she sounds like the worst person ever!

how's life, Friday, 24 May 2013 17:18 (ten years ago) link

I think she might be an actress hired to make the boss look less awful in comparison.

хуто-хуторянка (ShariVari), Friday, 24 May 2013 17:19 (ten years ago) link

She'll grab handfuls of chocolates given to us by clients to share with the office and bray through a full mouth "isn't it amazing how I never put on weight?"

...she isn't what you would call a people person

your holiness, we have an official energy drink (Z S), Wednesday, 29 May 2013 17:12 (ten years ago) link

I kinda have a crush on her, tbh.

how's life, Wednesday, 29 May 2013 17:14 (ten years ago) link

"'it's not as though you're "big" big'."

omg

Airwrecka Bliptrap Blapmantis (ENBB), Wednesday, 29 May 2013 19:28 (ten years ago) link

"bass music is any kind of music where the bass is the main part of the music - drum & bass, dubstep, house... even reggae and blue have elements of bass music in them."

FIRED.

eh mec, elle est ou ma caisse? (ytth), Friday, 31 May 2013 05:38 (ten years ago) link

thank you based music

0808ɹƃ (silby), Friday, 31 May 2013 05:38 (ten years ago) link

So our building custodian guy, Ken, is really nice, which sometimes crosses over into being officious, and he's a bit child-like in a sort of Edith Massey way.

Today he calls me to tell me one of our lawyers parked improperly and needs to move his car. I asked what the problem was and where he should re-park. Ken says, "Go to the window and see where he's parked."

"Can you just tell me?"

"He's off to the side, over by -- just go to the window, you'll see. I'll wait."

"Ken, can you just tell me??"

"No, you have to see."

So I go to the window and see that the car is parked by the Dumpster.

"Did you see it?"

"Yeh, it's by the Dumpster."

"Yeh, so he needs to move it in case the garbage truck comes."

Why did I *have to* go to the window? Why do I *have to* go look at a trash can to see if some papers were thrown away accidentally? Why do I always have to look at things for him?

Je55e, Thursday, 6 June 2013 16:37 (ten years ago) link

maybe he couldn't remember the word for dumpster

no man is an islam (onimo), Thursday, 6 June 2013 16:50 (ten years ago) link

He likes to watch you look at trash.

Evan, Thursday, 6 June 2013 16:56 (ten years ago) link

He just likes bossing you around.

Home Despot (WilliamC), Thursday, 6 June 2013 16:56 (ten years ago) link

There's a parallel board where Ken is moaning about how someone at work wanted him to describe in detail over the phone exactly how a car was wrongly parked instead of just glancing out the window and getting the thing moved.

no man is an islam (onimo), Thursday, 6 June 2013 17:08 (ten years ago) link

I was sure that he was going to be out there by the dumpster waving at you, or mooning you, or something prankish like that!

Z S, Thursday, 6 June 2013 17:15 (ten years ago) link

Oh great, I've got an advertiser who wants to create his own ad and wants me to give him free InDesign lessons so he can do it.

Home Despot (WilliamC), Friday, 7 June 2013 01:17 (ten years ago) link

two weeks pass...

"what's today's date?" asks a co-worker. WTF?

Neil S, Thursday, 27 June 2013 11:16 (ten years ago) link

At my old job, we had to work at least two weeks ahead, sometimes a couple of months, to meet court deadlines, which required keeping a calendar always turned a month or two ahead, so I never knew what the actual date was.

carl agatha, Thursday, 27 June 2013 12:15 (ten years ago) link

i work with creatives and half the office has no clue what day it is. 1/5 - no idea the month.

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 27 June 2013 14:29 (ten years ago) link

I spent most of the last week thinking it was July.

О боже, какой мужчина (ShariVari), Thursday, 27 June 2013 14:35 (ten years ago) link

I think it is 2012 right now and I don't care what anyone else says

Z S, Thursday, 27 June 2013 14:38 (ten years ago) link

do we work together?!

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 27 June 2013 14:38 (ten years ago) link

ya I ask "what's today's date" p much every time I need the date

shohreh aja/danteloo (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 27 June 2013 15:39 (ten years ago) link

I ask "what day is today?" That always leaves 'em guessing.

how's life, Thursday, 27 June 2013 15:42 (ten years ago) link

even if you don't know the date, which is fine, asking colleagues rather than just having a look at your Outlook calendar or Windows calendar or a news website or a billion other ways made me roll my eyes. But y'know whatevs!

Neil S, Thursday, 27 June 2013 15:55 (ten years ago) link

sometimes it is ok to speak to other people

Eyeball Kicks, Thursday, 27 June 2013 16:00 (ten years ago) link

yes it is, probably I'm being grumpy.

Neil S, Thursday, 27 June 2013 16:02 (ten years ago) link

i'm with Neil with this. just look at your ^%&$% phone or something. anything.

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 27 June 2013 16:32 (ten years ago) link

the company picnic was a couple days ago. it's a big deal since there are 5k+ employees here. it's a big enough event that the local police and fire departments come and give some demos, community goodwill and all that. the cops show off their cop dogs, mainly.

i overheard a woman asking "is canine a breed of dog?" and she kept asking cos her coworkers' blank stares didn't really register correctly with her, i guess. and then a guy was trying to explain the visual pun of k-9 = canine. but she just kept asking.

goole, Thursday, 27 June 2013 16:39 (ten years ago) link

during some system tests this morning, one item kept failing. I found the source of the prob fairly early, and in researching, found out that the whole setup error was based on a misunderstanding from 4 months ago. That should have been caught in the heat of the instant message conversation (which was documented), but both sides communicated unclearly and didn't reconfirm to make sure they understood each other.

and I wasn't CCed when this was going on, or I could have caught this. Minor issue at the end of the day, but annoying that we had to waste so many folks' mornings for something so silly.

Neanderthal, Tuesday, 2 July 2013 14:18 (ten years ago) link

That does sound awful.

fields of salmon, Thursday, 4 July 2013 06:01 (ten years ago) link

I sure love having a main client contact whose response to every question is "What was I supposed to be doing with that?" or "Remind me what you're waiting for?"

Neanderthal, Tuesday, 9 July 2013 16:16 (ten years ago) link

u_u

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 9 July 2013 16:18 (ten years ago) link

a couple days ago i was caught at the elevator by this really annoying co-worker who is also stupid, and he asked me for work advice, asked me if he was being intentionally left out of some things, etc. i told him not to worry and gave him a half-assed pep talk. we got on the elevator and on the next floor down as a group of people got on, he said "thanks for letting me be frank, by the way." then he paused, realized he had an audience, and said "but you can call me francis! ha ha." i think i replied with a weak, "no problem..."

he added apropos of nothing "surely you can't be serious! don't call me shirley!" he was actually winking at me at this point, i made a quick "cut the mic" motion across my throat but he didn't notice.

anyway there were a couple of more jokes like this, the elevator ride was long as fuck, and as everyone exited into the lobby he shouted after them, "i'll be here all week!"

i'm also beginning to suspect he's trying to torpedo the career of the girl who has the same job title as him by telling me "we don't get along AND I KNOW WHY." but he won't tell me why.

christmas candy bar (al leong), Tuesday, 9 July 2013 16:54 (ten years ago) link

oh weird.

how's life, Tuesday, 9 July 2013 17:02 (ten years ago) link

yeesh

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 9 July 2013 17:03 (ten years ago) link

I sure love having a main client contact whose response to every question is "What was I supposed to be doing with that?" or "Remind me what you're waiting for?"

Heeee I've been that person today. Because I was out of the office for four days last week but that didn't stop people CCing me in on massive confusing email chains where people changed their minds and spin off topic every 5 minutes.

In other news, I'm mentoring some poor kid at work, ha

kinder, Tuesday, 9 July 2013 17:18 (ten years ago) link

Hey, when you're warm enough in your roomy office the ground floor, why not just turn off the entire building's heating, instead of just the heating in your office? That way those of us forced to work in cramped shitholes in the basement can just freeze to death.

ornamental cabbage (James Morrison), Wednesday, 10 July 2013 05:37 (ten years ago) link

Ugh, these guys aren't stupid, but they're flustering me today. I'm leading a project and I make most of the contact with the client. I have no problem with this as it is easier for me to do all of the communicating rather than keep sending the dude to 7 different people for answers. All I've ever asked is that I be kept in the loop for those key decisions where I wasn't part of the decisionmaking. In return, I've proactively shared my plan with everybody, as well as made sure all of the other team members were copied on everything and not excluded from meetings.

So the topic of staffing comes up, and I'm given the original plan, but the team responsible for making this decision has kept changing the plan without telling me. One time, only informing me of a change I wasn't aware of in the middle of a client call (one that significantly altered our training plans). I asked them again to keep us in the loop, but they kept on making changes and I'd only find out secondhand or by accident. Eventually, I told my project manager I couldn't own this communication anymore with the client, since I wasn't being kept in the loop, and he agreed, so I asked those in charge to have those communications, and they agreed that they would.

Client then asks about staffing again because they're confused, and these folks just sit there not answering the question and again, I had to step in and schedule a meeting and force them to share it. Now, yet again today, after my second, more stern email, saying that I need to be kept in the loop on all staffing changes, YET ANOTHER discrepency has come up that I can't explain, due to another apparent uncommunicated change.

This time, I told them that I won't be replying and that they need to do it. Three strikes, sorry guys.

Neanderthal, Thursday, 11 July 2013 18:56 (ten years ago) link

How do you not know what subtotal means.

tokyo rosemary, Friday, 12 July 2013 05:33 (ten years ago) link

very old story: i worked in a deli in college. there was a girl who worked there briefly (she was let go for calling in sick for a sunday morning shift, after explaining to the manager on the phone she was "hung over"). initially i kind of wanted to stick up for her, as town-gown relations were not great, and the other folks who worked at the deli (even tho it was a hippy kind of place) thought we were all clueless rich overeducated layabouts. but i quickly started to hate working with her, because she was terrible at everything, and didn't seem to have any idea that we was terrible at everything.

but the really dumbfounding moment was when she took a mid-shift break for lunch we were allowed to make items of food for ourselves, within reason. she asked 'how do i make a sandwich'? the rest of us thought she was asking rhetorically, like, what kind of sandwich might i want right now? but no, she was literally asking us how to make a sandwich. the human act of putting meats, cheeses, vegetables, breads and spreads together in a pleasing fashion had never been asked of her before, and she didn't know how to do it.

goole, Monday, 15 July 2013 21:21 (ten years ago) link

mind: blown.

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 15 July 2013 22:08 (ten years ago) link

in a ... a deli?

kinder, Monday, 15 July 2013 22:09 (ten years ago) link

rule #7 - this rule is so underrated
keep wheat bread and pastrami completely separated

Neanderthal, Monday, 15 July 2013 22:28 (ten years ago) link

I just don't get it: We spend time nearly every day hunting down documents, information, or transactions which frequently turn up in a stack of unsorted crap on someone's desk or in the file (having been stuffed there without being logged or scanned). I have worked and begged to put simple processes in place to track stuff, but the response is always, in words or in effect, "That's too complicated/too much work. We just need to keep track of things better."

potatoes-in-law (Je55e), Tuesday, 16 July 2013 19:32 (ten years ago) link

e.g., spreadsheet to log payments received w/ dates, amounts, check numbers or last-four numbers of CCs. Boss: "I appreciate your work, but it is a lot of extra work. I just need to be more diligent about crediting accounts as soon as I deposit checks."

Today: client wants to know why their payment isn't reflected on their statement, so we download bank report and work out which deposit (probably) contained their check.

Tomorrow: Repeat with another transaction or document.

potatoes-in-law (Je55e), Tuesday, 16 July 2013 19:40 (ten years ago) link

IT contractor keeps telling boss to buy a new computer b/c hers really starting to crap out. Today it had a major spasm. Boss: "Do you think he's not maintaining it right so that I'll buy a new one and he'll get commission? I mean, the Haggia Sophia is still being used after 2600 years but he can't make a computer last more than 5 years?"

potatoes-in-law (Je55e), Wednesday, 17 July 2013 20:01 (ten years ago) link

I told her by that standard, she should be asking her vet to make her dog live to 70.

potatoes-in-law (Je55e), Wednesday, 17 July 2013 20:03 (ten years ago) link

Haggia Sophia reference surprising from someone so dumb

ornamental cabbage (James Morrison), Thursday, 18 July 2013 01:38 (ten years ago) link

wait goole worked with lex in college?

mookieproof, Thursday, 18 July 2013 01:41 (ten years ago) link

pretty sure captain awesome over here is cheating on his wife with one of my other co-workers, and the dude has a little kid. it's become something of an office joke. there's always something up with people who seem way too nice on the surface. oh well, guess it isn't any of my business, aside from pissing me off for my own personal reasons.

Spectrum, Monday, 22 July 2013 20:48 (ten years ago) link

It's currently 30C in our office and we have the air-con on AND all the windows open. The office manager refuses to countenance the idea that maybe this is fucking stupid. Apparently the air-conditioning company told her to run it with the windows open. We used to have a meeting room with the door shut so we could go in for a few minutes to cool down but she insisted we open the door "so the rest of the office gets the benefit". End result - meeting room now boiling hot too, rest of office exactly the fucking same as before.

Just noise and screaming and no musical value at all. (Colonel Poo), Tuesday, 23 July 2013 11:14 (ten years ago) link

What on earth is wrong with your office manager? That's just mind boggling.

Lawyer... SUAVE... (carl agatha), Tuesday, 23 July 2013 12:23 (ten years ago) link

The nice thing about office managers is that you can ask them to fix it. Then you can tell them to fix it. If it was your department manager, you wouldn't have that luxury.

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 23 July 2013 12:50 (ten years ago) link

Asking/telling doesn't actually achieve anything in this case.

Unfortunately there's no maximum office temperature in the UK so I can't even down tools and go home.

Just noise and screaming and no musical value at all. (Colonel Poo), Tuesday, 23 July 2013 13:04 (ten years ago) link

Apparently the air-conditioning company told her to run it with the windows open

this is the most confusing part of all

Z S, Tuesday, 23 July 2013 13:33 (ten years ago) link

I suspect that might be a lie.

Just noise and screaming and no musical value at all. (Colonel Poo), Tuesday, 23 July 2013 13:38 (ten years ago) link

Replace "air-conditioning company" with "power company" and it makes perfect sense, though.

Later, the water department called and said, "You'll get better results if you just leave all your faucets on all the time."

it itches like a porky pine sitting on your dick (Phil D.), Tuesday, 23 July 2013 13:42 (ten years ago) link

The gas company suggests running the heat along with the AC while keeping the windows open, and also keeping all your stove burners lit at all times so they are always ready when you need to heat water.

Lawyer... SUAVE... (carl agatha), Tuesday, 23 July 2013 14:16 (ten years ago) link

I just don't understand at all. What is that office manager trying to accomplish? Was she cold? Has the situation been resolved?

potatoes-in-law (Je55e), Tuesday, 23 July 2013 18:56 (ten years ago) link

Maybe the A/C leaks toxic gases into the room, so the only way to not kill everyone is to leave the windows open.

nickn, Tuesday, 23 July 2013 19:09 (ten years ago) link

I really don't know. There's been problems with the office temperature the whole time I've worked there. It seems to be slightly cooler down her end of the office, but it was still too hot. There used to be an issue with a woman who would complain she was too cold all the time but she left last year so I really hoped this summer would be different. She really seems to be labouring under the impression that closing the windows would make it worse.

The situation has not been resolved and likely won't be until this heatwave is over. I didn't do any work today apart from write a couple of trouble tickets and help my colleague find a couple of bugs, I just couldn't think straight. I tried to stir it up a bit and get my colleagues to all say they would work from home until it was resolved but after some initial murmurings nobody would bite.

Eh, this is England, it'll be freezing cold in a day or two, but until then, yuck. I appreciate some people do better than others in hot weather, unfortunately I can't stand it.

Just noise and screaming and no musical value at all. (Colonel Poo), Tuesday, 23 July 2013 19:10 (ten years ago) link

I know in some buildings it's beneficial to leave a couple windows open until the A/C has started to cool things due to airflow, but then you're supposed to close all windows.

mh, Tuesday, 23 July 2013 19:11 (ten years ago) link

I did read that somewhere and thought she might have latched onto that but not realised it's only when you first start it up.

Just noise and screaming and no musical value at all. (Colonel Poo), Tuesday, 23 July 2013 19:11 (ten years ago) link

Pretty sure A/C works best if you offer the viscera of the office manager to the dark lord of freon.

potatoes-in-law (Je55e), Tuesday, 23 July 2013 22:39 (ten years ago) link

Just had to listen to a client/colleague reveal they're Birthers, derailing a previously fun evening

Neanderthal, Wednesday, 24 July 2013 01:13 (ten years ago) link

so did anyone teach the girl how to make a sandwich???!?

j., Wednesday, 24 July 2013 01:28 (ten years ago) link

that was a real fishes and loaves type opportunity there!

j., Wednesday, 24 July 2013 01:28 (ten years ago) link

she was sacked iirc

goole, Wednesday, 24 July 2013 02:09 (ten years ago) link

but for the hangover thing

goole, Wednesday, 24 July 2013 02:09 (ten years ago) link

this isn't about coworkers per se, but... the company i work for has been trying to hire someone for months now, and i'm kind of shocked at the applicants we're getting. it's an entry level job with a pretty high starting salary for the industry, and it includes great benefits. not a bad gig for someone who doesn't have much experience and is trying to break past that "how do i get experience when no one will hire me?!" phase. if that phase even exists anymore. the applicant pool so far has been full of people who half-ass our application process and then complain that the process takes too long. did the economy in san francisco suddenly recover and now everyone good has a job?

eh mec, elle est ou ma caisse? (ytth), Wednesday, 24 July 2013 03:30 (ten years ago) link

My workplace reveals new depths of dysfunction every week. A few days ago we learned that one of the overnight coworkers is reporting to our boss about conversations between swing shift employees that are critical of said boss. Luckily this coworker damaged her credibility recently when she tried to get another coworker fired because they had a dispute over who would pick up an extra shift.

JoeStork, Wednesday, 24 July 2013 03:53 (ten years ago) link

To the co-worker who is loudly complaining at length that they have a sore throat: a) it might be a good idea to STFU and save your voice, alien as that concept might be to you, and b) everyone has a scratchy throat because of the shite air quality caused by this heatwave

slamming on the dubstep brakes (snoball), Thursday, 25 July 2013 09:21 (ten years ago) link

This woman is having a long, drawn-out phone conversation with a man about the pants (trousers)he's wearing to the club tonight and somehow I feel terribly, terribly embarrassed. She's gone behind this wall where people have loud personal conversations apparently believing it is a magical sound barrier

MrDasher, Friday, 26 July 2013 20:26 (ten years ago) link

Come the fuck on. We have shared Outlook calendars for conference room reservations for a reason. I'm tired of having to scramble last minute for an alternate location because you can't be bothered with the four seconds it would take you to look at the calendar.

Posting this here because, unfortunatly, the person that keeps doing this is so far above my level that I really can't do anything other than give him a gentle reminder every time this happens (which is like every other week, minimum).

JACK SQUAT about these Charlie Nobodies (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 29 July 2013 20:09 (ten years ago) link

Dear coworker,

I would not mind so much being told that I took too long to make a report and you just dug up some old out-of-date data from who-knows-where instead IF you had not sat on the report request for over a month before forwarding it two days ago, or IF you had asked if we were ready to send ASAP before sending crap data instead, because actually the work was finished and waiting for someone else's quick sanity check before we sent it on to you

ho hum.

slippery kelp on the tide (a passing spacecadet), Tuesday, 30 July 2013 13:12 (ten years ago) link

Boss still unlearning fundamentals of technology. She is working from home where she can't get on the internet, so she called me for help.

First off, she had been trying to access Lexis Nexis, and it never occurred to her try another website in case it was a problem w/ Lexis.

She tried and couldn't get on any websites, so she said she guessed she'd have to go to Best Buy and get another modem (she knew that word).

I suggested she should call her internet provider for help or to see if there was an outage.

"Oh God.... how would I found out who that is?" Well, it's either a phone company or your cable company..... "But wouldn't it be an internet company? Why would I call the phone company about internet?" (I know FOR SURE that as of last winter, she knew who her internet provider was.)

Then the coup de grace: "Anyway, how could there be an outage? I've got electricity!"

potatoes-in-law (Je55e), Thursday, 1 August 2013 20:37 (ten years ago) link

Oh god - she's trying to figure out who her internet provider is but she still doesn't get how the internet can be down when her electricity is working.

She should check the kitchen taps and the natural gas, since utilities all get to the house in one conduit.

potatoes-in-law (Je55e), Thursday, 1 August 2013 20:47 (ten years ago) link

Stop messing with my chair on my day off! I come in, sit down, chair is about 9 inches too low, hurt my fucking back.

ornamental cabbage (James Morrison), Thursday, 1 August 2013 23:44 (ten years ago) link

"why did you reject this order, sales are complaining it was for no reason"
*looks it up* "...uh, according to the notes I see right there in the order its because the fax was completely unreadable and I needed the credit card details"
"ok"
"why do you ask us to write clear notes if no one reads them and just asks for explanations?"
*crickets*

FUCKIN. WHY. DO. I. BOTHER.

It is like ganging up on Enya (Trayce), Wednesday, 7 August 2013 23:59 (ten years ago) link

'next time I'll make up a credit card #'. geez, seriously :/

Neanderthal, Thursday, 8 August 2013 00:32 (ten years ago) link

several years ago, project teams' access to set default case assignments, which they'd had for years, was revoked, and handed over to a single administrative team, which at the time, I was a part of. The explanation was that project teams had been inadvertently screwing up the settings in the system, and by relegating it to a trained administrative team, we could eliminate these kinds of errors. Likewise, it was advertised as being able to 'free up people's days' by taking the mundane out of their hands and doing it for them.

But it was a lie. It was really just a way of manufacturing dependence on a department that didn't need to exist. One that was eventually dissolved. However, despite the dissolution, the project teams never got their access back. Instead, a new department that splintered off of the defunct one, but was much smaller, kept control. To do this work, you had to submit them a request or it couldn't be done.

These case assignments, depending on size, could take anywhere from 15 minutes to 2 hours, but were generally quick-hitter tasks. However, this administrative team has a default turnaround of FOUR business days. Not one, not two...FOUR. I had to submit a task that I had hoped could get quick turnaround the other day - of just two days. It wasn't a large request. I got basically told "we'll try, but we're slammed and generally our standard turnaround is four days".

So...you've taken a process that used to take 15-120 minutes, and could be easily updated by a project team ad hoc when urgent issues arose...and have now handed it off to a team who is so poorly staffed, that it takes them 4 days to get to it, and cannot adjust prioritizing for more urgent requests.

Fortunately, in my situation I worked it out where they temporarily gave me my access back so I could do it myself, but seriously - how has this improved anything when you've slowed down the process so much and provided little in the way of benefit?

Neanderthal, Thursday, 8 August 2013 00:43 (ten years ago) link

not to pull focus from yrs though, Trayce. that kind of shit is infuriating, where people don't understand procedure, or that you're not 'rejecting' things for your health, but for valid reasons that could be easily mitigated if the transmitter took the time. I feel for you!

Neanderthal, Thursday, 8 August 2013 00:45 (ten years ago) link

We've been explicitly TOLD to reject orders for things like "the order form is an unreadable blurry fax". So I did, with notes to that effect, and the very same TL who told us this asks me why I rejected it!?

It is like ganging up on Enya (Trayce), Thursday, 8 August 2013 00:55 (ten years ago) link

how involved in your daily operations is the TL? is it someone who sees the process up close, or someone who makes decisions from a distance?

I find the latter are almost always the type who issue edicts, then forget they issued them.

should be banhammered!

Neanderthal, Thursday, 8 August 2013 00:57 (ten years ago) link

He's directly involved! He's currently auditing our workflows and everything. He knows the rules, reminds us of em, then asks for explanations on shit thats right in front of him?? Weird. Hes a nice guy, not strict, but not as competent as he could be.

It is like ganging up on Enya (Trayce), Thursday, 8 August 2013 01:59 (ten years ago) link

yo.

look man.

if you're not gonna do your job, i feel you. working sucks. sometimes you don't wanna work.

but you know sometimes not working is gonna put you under the gun, right? you get that your incomplete data is gonna cause problems?

and you know that when you're causing problems, that the man-up move is to say "yo, i'm sorry, i'm behind, let me fix this," right?

so you understand that it's inappropriate to try to go all watergate and cover up your slippage by asking *me* to stop my report so nobody notices your missing data? and you get that it's problematic to lie to me and act like the missing data in my report is a consequence of bad report structure on *my* part?

and you get that it's beyond the FUCKING pale to straight up *lie* to your boss and say that we're slipping on this deadline because *my* reporting is fucked up? and you get that it's bullshit to try to duct-tape-and-string a solution together and then tell your boss you *have to* because ~i~ fucked up?

motherfucker i have been on the phone with you for hours a day holding your hand while you sight-type into your fisher price front end, and then you're gonna try to throw me under the bus?

this shit nearly got me fired, because they thought *i* had fucked up. change your game or move on, dogg. and don't call me again.

BIG HOOS aka the denigrated boogeyman (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Thursday, 8 August 2013 16:01 (ten years ago) link

did you reverse the attempted judo throw and get the blame placed where it oughta?

Twerkin' with Sasquatch (WilliamC), Thursday, 8 August 2013 16:04 (ten years ago) link

fuck dude.

yeah i think i'd try to get the truth out on that guy.

R'LIAH (goole), Thursday, 8 August 2013 16:05 (ten years ago) link

i only even found out about this bullshit in a meeting where i got called on the carpet and had to correct the misapprehension, at which point it got real clear that i was not the fuckup

BIG HOOS aka the denigrated boogeyman (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Thursday, 8 August 2013 17:37 (ten years ago) link

holy fuck. glad you at least got a chance to give your side. did the other guy get terminated?

Neanderthal, Saturday, 10 August 2013 14:02 (ten years ago) link

so, the first two days my project was live went great, overall. very happy about it. but one gripe, and it's unfortunately a big one.

There is a process that needed to be completed prior to the live date. It's not one that I'm responsible for, own, or even have jurisdiction over, but it's one that directly impacts my workgroup, and is often missed or late on projects, which causes lots of negative things.

6 weeks prior to live, I notice that the ticket for the request isn't moving, so I approach the person who is responsible, who is newish, and I basically ask him, typically your role is responsible, are you ok doing this? Let us know if you need help along the way, yadda yadda. He replies almost immediately to say "Yes, we'll definitely do this". Within a week or two, he starts adding his sub-team to the ticket, and the team that started the ticket starts funneling the assignments out.

A few weeks pass, and I see next to nothing happen, and finally, as I'm about to say "what's the deal here?", the subteam member reaches out to ask how to do the task. the ticket creator and I gave answers, and I again said "if you need assistance while you're working on any, reach out to me or <name>".

The process starts moving, so I'm happy, but after they complete like the first 3 of many tasks, it just stops dead. I'm doing all day training , but I basically reach out and say "Where are we at here? I want to make sure this is set for live date - otherwise, the team that processes forms won't be in place, and they'll have to be done manually".

She asks "which ones are still outstanding?", a stupid question since she can see in the ticket which ones she's attached and which ones she hasn't in the attachments page. Nonetheless, I told her which ones still needed to be finished. AGAIN, I say "if you need help while completing this, reach out to me or <name>".

Another week passes, they get a few more done, but now we're a week out and they're only a little over halfway done. I ask again where they're at, and get told they're working on them. Still no request for help to me or <name>.

Three days to live date, STILL not done. At this point, I went back to the initial person I approached six weeks earlier, whom I had told about the importance of this. I also approached his mentor. I said basically, "I'm very concerned about this not being done by go-live. If it is not done, we will not have a team in place to process forms, and you'll have to do them all manually. This is not a desired result. Can you let me know if any help is needed.". Dude's mentor replies and assures me they're working 'feverishly' on them and that they'll be done by live date (generally, you're supposed to finish a week or two before, but w/e).

FINALLY, one of them reaches out for help for the first time. At this point, knowing we need to get this done, I ghostwrite the assignments for the person and just tell them to stamp their name to it (and it only took 30 freaking minutes). So now, only three assignments were left. We get to the day before live, at 10 pm...nothing. The person reaches out to me then and says "oh we finished the last few, but we wanted <name> to review them and she's traveling. Should we wait?". Ugh. Ok, fine. So we don't get around to adding those two until the following morning, and the final one the day after live.

And guess what? THE EXACT THING I WARNED ABOUT IS HAPPENING. Forms are coming in, no team in place to process. So I had to ask the dude, who I told of the importance of this exact task six weeks ago, that his team now needs to manually do these until the team is set up.

This isn't even something I was supposed to own. I got involved simply because I saw nothing was moving and wanted to make sure it was set up, as it screws my team over if its not. I kept saying "ask us for help", and got radio silence. Nobody took it seriously, and now here we are. I don't care how new you are, if somebody tells you "THIS IS UBER-IMPORTANT, PLEASE MAKE SURE IT GETS DONE", you own it, and if you have trouble along the way, or see a challenge to meeting the deadline, YOU FUCKING SAY SO. esp when about 1,800 reminders go out to you along the way.

*vent over*.

Neanderthal, Saturday, 10 August 2013 14:18 (ten years ago) link

overuse of jargon/focus on processes is ruining the flow of this thread imo, let's keep it snappy ppl

Dr Peter Who? (darraghmac), Saturday, 10 August 2013 14:20 (ten years ago) link

ok. a co-worker farted and I'm pissed about it.

Neanderthal, Saturday, 10 August 2013 14:22 (ten years ago) link

neanderthal i've been watching u lately and you really seem to have gotten on board with the messages we're sending out there, good work

Dr Peter Who? (darraghmac), Saturday, 10 August 2013 14:23 (ten years ago) link

It's because you keep saying 'reach out' imo

kinder, Saturday, 10 August 2013 14:39 (ten years ago) link

http://units.sla.org/chapter/cwcn/wwest/v7n4/FourTops.jpg

Neanderthal, Saturday, 10 August 2013 14:42 (ten years ago) link

No joke, that song has been in my head the whole time that thread's been at the top of SNA. Along w 'what I am'.
It's been a difficult time.

kinder, Saturday, 10 August 2013 14:44 (ten years ago) link

Glad I'm not the only one on ILX who's been thinking about The Four Tops.

slamming on the dubstep brakes (snoball), Saturday, 10 August 2013 14:45 (ten years ago) link

the other guy hasn't been fired yet. He's a contractor & the ongoing implication is "his contract will not be renewed," but we'll see.

BIG HOOS aka the denigrated boogeyman (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Saturday, 10 August 2013 17:20 (ten years ago) link

re: reach out thread, I've been thinking about Depeche Mode - "Reach out and touch base." I think somebody mentioned that in the thread already.

Lawyer... SUAVE... (carl agatha), Saturday, 10 August 2013 17:51 (ten years ago) link

dammit carl now thats all im gonna hear.

It is like ganging up on Enya (Trayce), Sunday, 11 August 2013 04:38 (ten years ago) link

loool carl

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 11 August 2013 05:44 (ten years ago) link

lmao

BIG HOOS aka the denigrated boogeyman (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Sunday, 11 August 2013 20:33 (ten years ago) link

there are all of these martyrs in my office who will constantly work while sick and then talk about how they're sick the entire day and how they are so busy and can't take a day off, then everyone else gets sick and feels implicit pressure to work through it because these other people do. fuck all y'all if i catch whatever you have.

christmas candy bar (al leong), Monday, 12 August 2013 22:16 (ten years ago) link

Sysadmin organised a whiskey tasting, the invitation for which went to the IT managers list and not to the IT staff list, bcz Important People. And then he invited some low-level admin woman who doesn't even work in IT but is quite pretty, as well as being half his age. (He's not single either.)

Anyway he just crashed in at quarter past 10 and we all thought he'd been at a 9am meeting, but no, he told us proudly it was just the after-effects of his whiskey-tasting night which he's going to spend all day talking loudly about.

Everyone else finds this guy enormously charming btw.

the supreme personality of Godhead : a summary study (a passing spacecadet), Thursday, 15 August 2013 09:19 (ten years ago) link

He sounds like a dick.

beingcutesince1980 (captain rosie), Thursday, 15 August 2013 09:21 (ten years ago) link

what a stupid, annoying coworker

BIG HOOS aka the denigrated boogeyman (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Thursday, 15 August 2013 13:26 (ten years ago) link

pee in his coffee

carlos danger zone (mh), Thursday, 15 August 2013 14:14 (ten years ago) link

Two co-workers are arguing about David Miranda's detention. Co-worker #1 is against what happened, but is also massively homophobic. Co-worker #2 isn't homophobic, but thinks the police were justified in detaining Miranda, and is more or less calling him a terrorist.
http://31.media.tumblr.com/68a730798ab92bc8534ee582da6e59f1/tumblr_mnbzr17o9C1qedb29o1_500.gif

slamming on the dubstep brakes (snoball), Monday, 19 August 2013 11:59 (ten years ago) link

amazing gif

BIG HOOS aka the denigrated boogeyman (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Monday, 19 August 2013 13:40 (ten years ago) link

Is she beating up a rabbi?

i too went to college (silby), Monday, 19 August 2013 16:20 (ten years ago) link

The Blues Brothers.

Lawyer... SUAVE... (carl agatha), Monday, 19 August 2013 16:33 (ten years ago) link

If you're writing an email requesting a big project from me, and you've copied approximately half the office and the head of the department for reasons ranging from the tangential to the completely irrelevant, maybe don't ask me how my other major project for you is "coming along", as though you've been patiently waiting for it but are now starting to tap your feet, when you only requested it earlier this week with a due date two weeks from now and I GAVE YOU A FUCKING UPDATE HALF AN HOUR AGO OVER THE PHONE.

doom & gloom from the boys allowed in the room (how's life), Friday, 23 August 2013 15:03 (ten years ago) link

goddamn it, this fool has been fucking up my friday.

doom & gloom from the boys allowed in the room (how's life), Friday, 23 August 2013 15:04 (ten years ago) link

- advertisers who attempt their own layouts in Word
- advertisers who attempt their own layouts
- advertisers

cops on horse (WilliamC), Friday, 23 August 2013 15:23 (ten years ago) link

well, if he copies half the office and you respond all, pointing out not much has changed in the 30 minutes since you spoke and you are currently on time to meet the deadline (i'm assuming you are); should be much of a problem.

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 23 August 2013 15:52 (ten years ago) link

*shouldn't

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 23 August 2013 15:52 (ten years ago) link

That was my initial impulse, but I cooled myself down and responded politely and privately.

doom & gloom from the boys allowed in the room (how's life), Friday, 23 August 2013 15:57 (ten years ago) link

You are a better person than I. I would have totally gone the petty route and done what TT said. I hate that shit so much it just brings out the worse in me.

Lawyer... SUAVE... (carl agatha), Friday, 23 August 2013 16:38 (ten years ago) link

I probably should have. I might be too polite for my own good.

doom & gloom from the boys allowed in the room (how's life), Friday, 23 August 2013 16:55 (ten years ago) link

xpost
i don't think it's that petty. he added all those people for some reason, and you don't need to be snarky or anything in the response. personally, i'd rather everyone in the email chain knew I had things under control if I was concerned he was making it seem like things had fallen behind.

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 23 August 2013 16:59 (ten years ago) link

some reason,

She has a longstanding habit of copying people who would be negligibly interested in the topic of discussion. I've been included before on dozens of such emails where I really couldn't determine why I was being copied.

I'm also pissed at her because she's been bugging me all day about a problem she's having with some work my supervisor did for her. He's out on personal leave today, and I did my best to help her but ultimately had to tell her "when [supervisor] gets back, we can meet to talk about it because I don't know how he did what he did". Still getting emails about it.

doom & gloom from the boys allowed in the room (how's life), Friday, 23 August 2013 17:28 (ten years ago) link

She also works from home on Fridays and isn't big on picking up the phone on that day either, so the whole onslaught has been a bit of a shock on what I had expected to be a quiet day putting the nose to the grindstone on something completely different.

doom & gloom from the boys allowed in the room (how's life), Friday, 23 August 2013 17:31 (ten years ago) link

I hate days like that. "Oh, I don't have any major deadlines and three people are out so I can do XYZ" but nooooooooooo that's always when ten people want me to take care of one thing real quick before I go home for the day.

Lawyer... SUAVE... (carl agatha), Friday, 23 August 2013 17:38 (ten years ago) link

Fridays just as you're thinking of going, right? They *know*.

Fizzles, Friday, 23 August 2013 20:00 (ten years ago) link

my boss just called me. she's literally 5 feet away, but she sits in an enclosed office while i'm out here in the cuberhood just outside.

boss: "I'm writing up a description of the MOUs. Can I say that these MOUs will serve as guidance for how the partnerships will be implemented?"

me: "Hmmm...I would say that the MOUs establish the expectations, roles and responsibilities of both parties in the partnership."

boss: "Hmmm, ok, so I can say that these MOUs will serve as guidance for how the partnerships will be implemented?"

me: "...yes. That sounds good."

every day is like this. every interaction is like this. why am i here

Z S, Tuesday, 27 August 2013 21:47 (ten years ago) link

elevator comedian coworker i discussed upthread is a combination of "golly gee aw shucks" fake-friendly goofball and simmering psychopath. the guy who always follows people to their cars asking career advice (as described upthread as well.) i think he's todd from breaking bad.

christmas candy bar (al leong), Tuesday, 27 August 2013 21:59 (ten years ago) link

also, about an hour ago i came back from the restroom and my mouse was missing. i assumed that it was one of my friends playing a prank on me, but the usual suspects had left for the day. about 20 minutes later a sheepish tech dude came by with my mouse, saying that he needed one and thought i was gone for the day.

not a big deal, just kinda weird

Z S, Tuesday, 27 August 2013 22:02 (ten years ago) link

I have a coworker who does the same thing - will just keep repeating herself bc I won't give get the answer she wants, so now I just hang up on her

just1n3, Tuesday, 27 August 2013 23:14 (ten years ago) link

WTF who steals someone else's mouse!?

It is like ganging up on Enya (Trayce), Tuesday, 27 August 2013 23:17 (ten years ago) link

I always assume that IT has a drawer full of stuff like that.

carl agatha, Tuesday, 27 August 2013 23:20 (ten years ago) link

WTF who steals someone else's mouse!?

I've twice come in to work to find the cable connecting my monitor to my PC missing

ornamental cabbage (James Morrison), Tuesday, 27 August 2013 23:30 (ten years ago) link

Someone swapped my a and v keys round once but im p sure that was actually a prank

"Asshole Lost in Coughdrop": THAT'S a story (darraghmac), Tuesday, 27 August 2013 23:32 (ten years ago) link

A friend of mine once cracked a PC case to swap in a video card and found a stale muffin perched atop the harddrive inside, but yeah that was some kind of prank also.

It is like ganging up on Enya (Trayce), Tuesday, 27 August 2013 23:37 (ten years ago) link

Chocolate microchip

"Asshole Lost in Coughdrop": THAT'S a story (darraghmac), Tuesday, 27 August 2013 23:40 (ten years ago) link

Blackberry

"Asshole Lost in Coughdrop": THAT'S a story (darraghmac), Tuesday, 27 August 2013 23:41 (ten years ago) link

lost a muffin in her box

zvookster, Wednesday, 28 August 2013 00:27 (ten years ago) link

WTF who steals someone else's mouse!?

I've done this.

potatoes-in-law (Je55e), Wednesday, 28 August 2013 00:53 (ten years ago) link

i have as well. i was then blamed for the fucking asshole's computer dying as a result.

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 28 August 2013 00:54 (ten years ago) link

I always assume that IT has a drawer full of stuff like that.

― carl agatha, Tuesday, August 27, 2013 4:20 PM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Z S is a fed so I assume the scene there right now is like the episode of 30 Rock where Matthew Broderick's office has no money for pens and he has to scratch notes with a toothpick.

i too went to college (silby), Wednesday, 28 August 2013 04:38 (ten years ago) link

I am unfamiliar with that scene but I worked for state government for five years so I am very familiar with the dynamic.

carl agatha, Wednesday, 28 August 2013 13:55 (ten years ago) link

I've twice come in to work to find the cable connecting my monitor to my PC missing

― ornamental cabbage (James Morrison), Tuesday, August 27, 2013 11:30 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lmao

HOOS it because...of steen???? (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Wednesday, 28 August 2013 16:37 (ten years ago) link

there was a nice moment of not-stupid-annoying yesterday where my whole team let the stiff upper lips drop and just for a second agreed that we're all losing our shit and overwhelmed with our respective workloads

nonprofits!

HOOS it because...of steen???? (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Wednesday, 28 August 2013 16:38 (ten years ago) link

A friend of mine once cracked a PC case to swap in a video card and found a stale muffin perched atop the harddrive inside, but yeah that was some kind of prank also.

― It is like ganging up on Enya (Trayce), Tuesday, August 27, 2013 7:37 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

This is why that office uniquely does not have a shortage of mice. Take notes people.

Evan, Wednesday, 28 August 2013 16:40 (ten years ago) link

Everybody who deals with the printing/publishing biz and uses their goddamn phone as their computer needs to die in a fire.

1. not giving full info because they cant be bothered to type out detailed messages on a phone keyboard
2. "reduce file size for easier emailing" (this applies to people who do that from actual computers as well)
3. probably a bunch of other reason I can't think of right now

DIE IN A FIRE, RIGHT FUCKING NOW.

"no thats not what i want
sent from my iPhone"

THEN TELL ME WHAT YOU DO FUCKING WANT, OR GO DIE IN A FIRE

"will call you when i get out of this meeting
sent from my iPhone"

IT'S TWO DAYS LATER, THAT MUST BE SOME MEETING, AND OH YEAH -- GO DIE IN A FUCKING FIRE

I would make every smartphone spontaneously combust right now if I could.

cops on horse (WilliamC), Wednesday, 28 August 2013 16:57 (ten years ago) link

co-sign x 1000

can't attach hi-res image file on my phone, would you settle for an embedded lowres version instead? no? oh well I'll send it anyway RAAAAGGGH

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 28 August 2013 16:59 (ten years ago) link

Not a bitch, but it's work: We have a custody case in which the mother ran away with the kids and I live for reading recent court papers b/c most contain the wonderful verb used in this sentence "Ample evidence exists that Respondent fled and secreted the children."

potatoes-in-law (Je55e), Wednesday, 28 August 2013 21:35 (ten years ago) link

ouch and/or eeww

Shart Week (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 28 August 2013 22:16 (ten years ago) link

Mother is a surinam toad, fyi.

carl agatha, Wednesday, 28 August 2013 22:23 (ten years ago) link

There was ample body-temperature goo as evidence

touch. zing touch. you've almost convinced me I'm real (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 28 August 2013 23:27 (ten years ago) link

I do love it when legalese trips over proper grammar and causes a train crash.

It is like ganging up on Enya (Trayce), Thursday, 29 August 2013 01:39 (ten years ago) link

My immediate boss sits to my right and our IT guy, who is her son (and who lives with her), sits opposite her. Lots of fun when they bring their domestic arguments into work, and bicker all day.

ornamental cabbage (James Morrison), Friday, 30 August 2013 01:04 (ten years ago) link

WTF who steals someone else's mouse!?

my employer provided me with an ancient laptop guided by a pointing stick. i had to buy my own mouse just to make work even feasible

mookieproof, Friday, 30 August 2013 02:02 (ten years ago) link

what the shit

HOOS it because...of steen???? (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Friday, 30 August 2013 02:23 (ten years ago) link

what the shit is that

HOOS it because...of steen???? (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Friday, 30 August 2013 02:23 (ten years ago) link

a pointing stick? pretty standard imo

although we used to call em a "clit mouse"

mh, Friday, 30 August 2013 02:23 (ten years ago) link

what the shit

exactly

mookieproof, Friday, 30 August 2013 02:24 (ten years ago) link

a couple years ago there was a dude who quit in a huff but then came back in to retrieve his mouse

which was totally reasonable yet kind of lol but mostly sad for those of us remaining

mookieproof, Friday, 30 August 2013 02:42 (ten years ago) link

last week, there was a problem with an entire group's access (naturally they waited a week to tell us, to where over 100 documents had been backlogged). Simple solution - security owner follows up with lead of entire group, troubleshoots problem, it's fixed, I have to do nothing (I have no ownership of it, but it impacts my group).

Instead here's what happens:

1) Lead of group emails problem to appropriate manager
2) Manager sits on it, comes to me instead, I refer her to security owner
3) security owner sits on it, doing nothing for hours, not talking to Group Lead
4) I have to talk to Group Lead, find out is the problem on their end. Answer I get is "no".
5) Security owner still sitting on it.
6) I have to message security owner to say HEY THEY SAY IT'S NOT ON THEIR END, CAN YOU FIX IT
7) He fixes it, gives me little info
8) I tell group lead "hey it's fixed". they say it still doesn't work and I lose my temper at everybody.
9) Other Security owner pipes in and says "oh it probably needs to refresh overnight"
10) Issue is fixed.

The diff between what should have happened and what did is in the latter scenario I LOST FIVE HOURS OF MY DAY.

Neanderthal, Sunday, 1 September 2013 14:55 (ten years ago) link

lead, manager, owner, etc... your workplace sounds like the job title olympics.

eh mec, elle est ou ma caisse? (ytth), Monday, 2 September 2013 06:51 (ten years ago) link

overuse of jargon/focus on processes is ruining the flow of this thread imo, let's keep it snappy ppl

― Dr Peter Who? (darraghmac)

"Asshole Lost in Coughdrop": THAT'S a story (darraghmac), Monday, 2 September 2013 07:33 (ten years ago) link

I considered putting this on the 'tell someone they're a cockfarmer thread', but at the moment this is more incompetence than cockfarmery.
Co-worker #3: this morning you got up in front of a roomful of already pissed off angry people, and proceeded to deliver the most piss-poor presentation I've seen in a while. During which you said "I don't like my job". Which means that you're not any good at your job. A stick I will beat you with should the opportunity come up at our meeting tomorrow.

TO BE PLAYED AT MINIMUM VOLUME (snoball), Monday, 2 September 2013 15:57 (ten years ago) link

suicide by cop?

cops on horse (WilliamC), Monday, 2 September 2013 15:58 (ten years ago) link

your fruit teas, ready meals and empty yoghurt pots are making me feel nauseous. also for the last fucking time I do not like fucking SWEETIES. Jesus.

also, you, stop fucking BLETHERING all the time.

thx

Fizzles, Sunday, 8 September 2013 09:51 (ten years ago) link

I have a new supervisor, and in addition to some larger issues that have occurred, he has some really annoying little habits. He keeps touching my computer screen -he tries to point stuff out by putting his finger on it so I can't see it and the idiocy of that is annoying but just having him there touching my monitor is even more annoying.
He also never says "No" it's always "no no no no no"
and he licks his fingers before touching the paper you just handed him and would have wanted back before he put his disgusting saliva-fingers on it.

MrDasher, Thursday, 12 September 2013 14:24 (ten years ago) link

He keeps touching my computer screen

no no no no no

carl agatha, Thursday, 12 September 2013 14:29 (ten years ago) link

One of my coworkers, who is neither stupid nor annoying but generally quite lovely just fyi, pushes her glasses up on her face by touching the lenses and I am very particular about my glasses being clean and hers are always smudged outrageously and it makes me batty.

carl agatha, Thursday, 12 September 2013 14:31 (ten years ago) link

I could make you a list of people I've/we've known who do that. It drives me nuts, along w/ the resulting haze on the lenses that they don't have the good sense to find INTOLERABLE.

disgruntled punter (Je55e), Thursday, 12 September 2013 19:00 (ten years ago) link

My problem with people who are OK with their filthy glasses is mostly about becoming fixated how they can be OK with it. I just want to dissect their minds, which are obviously exceptional.

disgruntled punter (Je55e), Thursday, 12 September 2013 19:04 (ten years ago) link

He also never says "No" it's always "no no no no no"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxRX6LXDpWs

emil.y, Thursday, 12 September 2013 19:12 (ten years ago) link

my immediate workgroup is pretty awesome except when, on the rare occasion, they talk about non-work stuff that is about health or food trends

highlights of the day: paleo diet being pronounced "pah-lay-oh" (this is wrong, isn't it?)
ideas about special diets having magical effects

bizarre hfcs musings

beautifully, unapologetically plastic (mh), Thursday, 12 September 2013 19:16 (ten years ago) link

i enjoy when my office-mates laugh about a co-worker with mental health problems, makes me feel like i must be alright cos they're sure i'll join in

Cap'n Save-a-Co. (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 12 September 2013 19:22 (ten years ago) link

My problem with people who are OK with their filthy glasses is mostly about becoming fixated how they can be OK with it. I just want to dissect their minds, which are obviously exceptional.

― disgruntled punter (Je55e), Thursday, September 12, 2013 7:04 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

There is an ILXor who is so terrible about this. You may have seen me actually clean his glasses for him with one of the zillions of microfiber glasses cleaning cloths that I seem to have on hand at all times.

carl agatha, Thursday, 12 September 2013 21:01 (ten years ago) link

I know the one. He's the top entry on my .xls of people who don't notice irritants.

disgruntled punter (Je55e), Thursday, 12 September 2013 23:21 (ten years ago) link

lol

beautifully, unapologetically plastic (mh), Thursday, 12 September 2013 23:29 (ten years ago) link

Bless his heart.

carl agatha, Thursday, 12 September 2013 23:29 (ten years ago) link

hahaha

One of the reasons I prefer wearing my contacts instead of glasses is the cleaning problem. Contacts get cleaned every time I blink; glasses seem constantly smudged EVEN WHEN I JUST CLEANED THEM A SECOND AGO wtf.

quincie, Friday, 13 September 2013 01:20 (ten years ago) link

Never realised how horrifically greasy my face must be until I started wearing glasses--grease seems to slowly slide out onto eyelashes, which are just long enough to paint inside of lenses with it throughout the course of the day. i am disgusted with myself.

ornamental cabbage (James Morrison), Friday, 13 September 2013 01:49 (ten years ago) link

my face feels 3 degrees hotter when I wear glasses.

Neanderthal, Friday, 13 September 2013 03:34 (ten years ago) link

xp: James, could it be that your glasses are poorly fitted? I've worn glasses most of my life and never experienced this until my second to last pair of glasses, which were hastily tried on in a Kaiser Permanente office. I went for about a year, wondering if something was wrong with me that had caused this change. Then someone told me my glasses were probably poorly fitted. I haven't had a chance to get back to the eye doctor for a new pair, but I switched back to an old pair and they both fit better and the oily discharge problem went away.

how's life, Friday, 13 September 2013 09:45 (ten years ago) link

I've had the eyelash grease problem since I first started wearing glasses in 1986. Curse these glorious long greasy lashes.

disgruntled punter (Je55e), Saturday, 14 September 2013 05:15 (ten years ago) link

Gah between screen-touching and glasses-smudging you would all hate me :(

taxi tomato or bag tomato (Trayce), Saturday, 14 September 2013 05:26 (ten years ago) link

btw one doesnt notice the smudges if one has a fading prescription so the smudges just sort of blend in with the general "cant really see too good" sitch.

taxi tomato or bag tomato (Trayce), Saturday, 14 September 2013 05:26 (ten years ago) link

this is my imitation of a convo I had with a colleague yesterday:

Goofus: Should I invite Mortimer and Angus to the meeting?
Me: No, they're the wrong people. You need either Simon, Thelonius, or Bartelby.
Goofus: Whoa, that's a lot of names. You sure it isn't Mortimer or Angus?
Me: Do you need someone who does <thing> or <thang>?
Goofus: Both. Basically someone who does <something that isn't "thing" or "thang">
Me: Well, Mortimer and Angus don't do that. Hold up, let me ask whom of Simon, Thelonius, or Bartelby is the one you need to invite.
Goofus: Nevermind. I found time open on the calendar for Mortimer and Angus so I invited them. You can forward to whomever else.

WHAT IS WRONG WIT HYOU

Neanderthal, Saturday, 14 September 2013 14:29 (ten years ago) link

lol

how's life, Saturday, 14 September 2013 14:45 (ten years ago) link

James, could it be that your glasses are poorly fitted?

Hmm, this had not even occurred to me. I need to get some new glasses soon anyway, will try and rectify this problem.

ornamental cabbage (James Morrison), Monday, 16 September 2013 00:07 (ten years ago) link

at least 3 months ago...

Me: hey, seeing as we're migrating and merging all these data services of [ourcompany] to [yourcompany that took over ourcompany], wont they start billing on your accounts? Wont that mean I can no longer see them on ours, and check the bills? Are your teams aware of this?
Bossperson: thats not for worrying about right now lets table that for later.

wibbly wobbly fast forward to today...
Newcompany accounts lady: Argh! Freaking out here! Where the hell did all these new data services appear from on our invoices! Who hasnt been updating the spreadsheet WTFOMG! Help!
My teamleader: errr... Trayce, are these from your company's side?
Me: why, yes they are, just as I predicted would be the case! At least you know now
MyTL: Oh, well Accountslady is refusing to pay these invoices til this is squared away, can you update her spreadsheet with $BIGNUMLIST asap today? Thanks.
Me: mutter, grumble, could have done this slowly months ago instead of ALL AT ONCE NOW *kills self*

taxi tomato or bag tomato (Trayce), Wednesday, 18 September 2013 03:43 (ten years ago) link

Boy do I love when we spend weeks putting a plan together, sharing it with our client, getting it all ready to go, and then finding out that our project manager agreed to something completely different behind the scenes without talking to me, assuming that our plan would work with what he wanted (it won't).

took me ten minutes to reword my email from "FUCK YOUUUUUUUUUUUUUU" to something business friendly.

Neanderthal, Friday, 20 September 2013 14:50 (ten years ago) link

i wish there was one day a year where you could respond to the shittiest emails with full rage face

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 21 September 2013 00:22 (ten years ago) link

I wish I could build a custom See 'n Say toy with pics of my least favorite co-workers and send them each their own, so they can pull the string and hear the stupid shit they say daily.

also one out of ten will be armed with an active grenade.

Neanderthal, Saturday, 21 September 2013 00:23 (ten years ago) link

Xpost maybe that's where the idea of toe minutes hate came from in 1984

Z S, Saturday, 21 September 2013 00:40 (ten years ago) link

Tooooo

Z S, Saturday, 21 September 2013 00:41 (ten years ago) link

eh
so i was mini-promoted (acting basis kinda thing, in a department not likely to exist in another few weeks, but still) on wednesday. but complications arising from the fact that i'm on a permanent contract as opposed to temp (95% staff here are agency) means that the boss called me in on thursday to rescind the title and the bucks after HR raised hell.
i'm better off in that the work is supervisory and generally better (experience, cv boost, off the phones and away from braying mouths) but jeez i kinda wish he'd checked his facts before he told me i was getting a raise.
anyway.
― Randy Carol (darraghmac), Saturday, 8 September 2012 09:38 (1 year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Theyre putting me forward for this again, even tho nothing has changed from hr pov. I mean i appreciate the effort guys but rly buy me a pint or something else you can mske happen eh

gangover over sam over (darraghmac), Thursday, 26 September 2013 11:20 (ten years ago) link

Have you been doing the actual job in the meantime, just without the $$$? (Could not find euro symbol in keyboard options)

ljubljana, Thursday, 26 September 2013 12:00 (ten years ago) link

Yep

gangover over sam over (darraghmac), Thursday, 26 September 2013 12:06 (ten years ago) link

had literally almost this exact thing happen me recently.

Evil Juice Box Man (LocalGarda), Thursday, 26 September 2013 12:33 (ten years ago) link

literally almost this exact thing

Evil Juice Box Man (LocalGarda), Thursday, 26 September 2013 12:33 (ten years ago) link

Like a cryptic clue, really

gangover over sam over (darraghmac), Thursday, 26 September 2013 12:59 (ten years ago) link

Just moved to a new role within the place I've been working in for four years so have a new line manager as a result. He is the slowest talking man I have ever met. I find it very difficult to deal with. He talks really slowly, slow-motion walks around the room while talking, takes everything weirdly seriously (a discussion about my lunchbreak on Friday led to a 25 minute chat in a 'confidential' room about the 'historical and political context and implications of the receptionist lunch break saga') asks the most redundant questions (there is currently a deflated bouncy castle in the reception area that arrived for a function on friday. he's just come in and asked "did we have the bouncy castle for the weekend?") etc. It's bizarre. I cannot explain just how slow communication with him is.

the Shearer of simulated snowsex etc. (Dwight Yorke), Monday, 30 September 2013 08:32 (ten years ago) link

"a 25 minute chat in a 'confidential' room about the 'historical and political context and implications of the receptionist lunch break saga'"

irl lol

sktsh, Monday, 30 September 2013 09:46 (ten years ago) link

sounds awesome, but that could just be in the telling tbh

hey racists can be joyless too yknow (darraghmac), Monday, 30 September 2013 10:01 (ten years ago) link

It was bizarre. I think I've caused serious tension among head office by asking to, y'know, actually be allowed to leave my desk for a cigarette, a cherry coke and a bag of quavers.

the Shearer of simulated snowsex etc. (Dwight Yorke), Monday, 30 September 2013 11:14 (ten years ago) link

there is currently a deflated bouncy castle in the reception area that arrived for a function on friday

details?

gyac, Monday, 30 September 2013 12:50 (ten years ago) link

well it was actually due on thursday and it hasn't gotten over the diappointment yet, poor thing

hey racists can be joyless too yknow (darraghmac), Monday, 30 September 2013 13:05 (ten years ago) link

You've let yourself down with that joke

kinder, Monday, 30 September 2013 13:08 (ten years ago) link

stop i'm on the brinca quitting puns altogether

hey racists can be joyless too yknow (darraghmac), Monday, 30 September 2013 13:18 (ten years ago) link

Oh wow, I haven't posted to or read this thread in age, but...

My day-job is as a temp sub-editor, and I've a couple of regular clients. I work in the offices, and I really enjoy most of the people I work with, and to be honest, it seems like a healthier way to exist than when I was just freelance writing from home all the time.

But at one of the places, I've had a stupid falling out with one of my colleagues. He's someone who I thought I got on with really well, we'd go off to lunch together all the time, had very similar interests and reference points, and very similar senses of humour.

But this week, he came back from a week off, in a really shitty mood, head down, headphones on, not talking. He's a moody guy at the best of times so I figured, fair enough, will give him a wide berth. But then I had to sub a piece of his work, without knowing it was his, and I had a factual query about a piece he'd written about a TV series (we work on inflight entertainment guides) that I couldn't clarify through researching the internet. So I asked if anyone in the office had seen the show, and if they could clarify the fact I was checking, because it was making the piece vague, and all of a sudden he erupted and was getting really belligerent and up in my face, like "why does it matter?" "why is it a problem?" "how does it affect the piece?", and all I could say was that, as a reader and as a sub it made the piece confusing, and that my job was to make pieces not confusing (the piece was actually riddled with mistakes and very clumsily written, but I didn't mention that).

Since then, there's been a real cloud in the office, and I really feel like "the temp" in a way I haven't felt for a long time. I'm sure it will all blow over at some point, but he's been a real dick about this, and I thought he was my friend. I'm really so hugely fucked off about this, and I'm sitting in this office right now and everyone's behaving like Nothing Happened, but this guy has been a real chump and it is bumming me out majorly and making me glad I'm working somewhere else next week.

Holy Shirt! (stevie), Thursday, 3 October 2013 09:28 (ten years ago) link

Like, I essentially got chewed out for doing my job properly (and we almost lost a client last month thanks to a factual mistake in a piece of writing). It's really unfair and fucked.

Holy Shirt! (stevie), Thursday, 3 October 2013 09:31 (ten years ago) link

could you drop him a mail and clear the air? that's what i would do. tho he may reject it, at least you'd feel you tried.

Evil Juice Box Man (LocalGarda), Thursday, 3 October 2013 09:36 (ten years ago) link

I'm guessing that's what I should do. I don't know, I feel like I've spent so much of my life being the dude who apologises first or is the cooler head, and I can't shake the feeling that it leads me to being the one who most often gets walked over. But being stubborn like this isn't really suiting me.

Holy Shirt! (stevie), Thursday, 3 October 2013 09:54 (ten years ago) link

it's possible to make the first move without apologising but it's a pain alright

tbh i've long reached the stage where i just send stuff like this up the chain without apology or second thought, is there a higher up that you can make a frank statement of affairs to and ask it be sorted?

Victims’ tears deter rodent paedophiles (darraghmac), Thursday, 3 October 2013 10:40 (ten years ago) link

no way would i do that...

Evil Juice Box Man (LocalGarda), Thursday, 3 October 2013 11:14 (ten years ago) link

it's probs not a bad idea, but it's a smallish operation, and as I'm a temp I don't think I'd end up doing myself any favours.

Holy Shirt! (stevie), Thursday, 3 October 2013 11:22 (ten years ago) link

why don't you talk to a superior about it first? it's possible there's something going on with this guy's private life that's affecting things. and getting in your face about something that sounds perfectly reasonable is inappropriate in any work environment; regardless of what's happening in someone's private life.

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 3 October 2013 15:12 (ten years ago) link

To me it sounds like it's really nothing personal and something v bad is going in in this guy's life, you just happen to be the target of his venting and he can concentrate on being mad at you instead of dealing with his personal shit. localgarda otm - send him an email.

just1n3, Thursday, 3 October 2013 15:31 (ten years ago) link

Thirded

ljubljana, Thursday, 3 October 2013 18:30 (ten years ago) link

"a 25 minute chat in a 'confidential' room about the 'historical and political context and implications of the receptionist lunch break saga'"

― the Shearer of simulated snowsex etc. (Dwight Yorke), Monday, September 30, 2013 9:32 AM

Sounds like a DFW short story.

NWOFHM! Overlord (krakow), Thursday, 3 October 2013 19:19 (ten years ago) link

thanks for all of youse advice on this. i think you're right that some deep stuff is going down with him that's nothing to do with me. tried chatting with him yesterday but he's still being really off with me, but i'm working for another company for the next month or so so i'm just gonna leave it. but this kind of rubbish is totally why i worked from home for a decade or so!

Defund Phil Collins (stevie), Friday, 4 October 2013 10:51 (ten years ago) link

I wish these shitheads would STFU.

MrDasher, Friday, 11 October 2013 18:41 (ten years ago) link

I asked my supervisor a question and as he blankly stared at me for a moment he continually ran his tongue back and forth between his lips disgustingly. Later he came over to ask me to do something - a standard procedure which requires no explanation whatsoever and which he could've easily checked to see that I had done- yet after I said in response that I'd already done it he kept unnecessarily explaining the reason for it.

MrDasher, Thursday, 17 October 2013 20:20 (ten years ago) link

one of my co-workers mothers died over the weekend and they're passing around a condolences card. i had some trouble figuring out what to write in the thing - don't know the co-worker too well, didn't know her mom or family. other co-workers are pouring out their hearts like they're at an Italian funeral, but frankly, i'm finding it hard to give a fuck. don't know if that makes me some kind-of Mr. Burnsian ogre or something. maybe it's hard for me to relate since i'd probably dance on my mother's grave if she passed away.

guess the 'annoying co-workers' thing here is the expectation that i have to give my heart, or successfully demonstrate such, to people who I don't know at all and don't particularly care to know, and who honestly don't care about me, either. i'm not a fan of this personal/business thing blending together even if it's just a little dance we have to do.

Spectrum, Monday, 21 October 2013 13:57 (ten years ago) link

I can't stand anytime I have to write a card at work, whether it's for someone I'm close to or not.

how's life, Monday, 21 October 2013 13:59 (ten years ago) link

My workplace also does that "workplace family" thing and I don't like it either. There always seems to be something circulating, for condolences or congratulations. I hate to think of being the recipient of any such thing. It seems awkward, I hate emotion at work and I wouldn't want anything to happen that would make me feel beholden or personally bound to my coworkers in any way. When it's for someone else it's not as bad but it's not what I prefer at work at all.

MrDasher, Monday, 21 October 2013 14:05 (ten years ago) link

Memorize this:

I'm sorry for your loss.

Optional: You and your family are in my thoughts.

That's all you ever have to put on a coworker sympathy card.

carl agatha, Monday, 21 October 2013 14:40 (ten years ago) link

Seriously nobody, including the bereaved, expects more than that in this situation from someone of your level of acquaintance.

carl agatha, Monday, 21 October 2013 14:41 (ten years ago) link

More useful greeting card phrases:

Congratulations!

Best wishes in your new position!

I hope you're feeling better soon.

Happy birthday!

Welcome back!

Then sign your name. I swear it really is that easy.

carl agatha, Monday, 21 October 2013 14:43 (ten years ago) link

keep on keepin' on

mh, Monday, 21 October 2013 14:43 (ten years ago) link

"I'm sorry for your loss" is what I wrote. Felt like it stood out like a sore thumb to these florid paragraphs about life, loss, love, family, memory. Then there's my "SORRY FOR YOUR LSOS" like I'm recovering from a brain injury or something.

Spectrum, Monday, 21 October 2013 14:46 (ten years ago) link

No no you are overthinking it, I promise. You did great. It is much better to go for a simple sentiment than it is to gin up some purple prose, especially if it's someone you are not close to.

Now when they passed around a card for a coworker who had just left work due to a terminal cancer diagnosis, that was like Level 11 difficulty.

You can't talk about getting well and you can't talk about being sorry for your loss (of your life in six to eight weeks). I think I just went with a basic "You are in my thoughts," which was not a lie.

carl agatha, Monday, 21 October 2013 14:50 (ten years ago) link

If it's someone you are dear friends with at work, then it's fine to write more. otherwise, there's no reason to show off to every other card signer the magnificent truths you've learned about life.

Neanderthal, Monday, 21 October 2013 14:51 (ten years ago) link

even with my bosses, who I'm usually very tight with, when I hear bad news I just say they're in my thoughts, I hope <situation> works out, offer some comfort if it's a death.

I have maybe one friend at work that I'm actually friends with outside of work, who I'll actually say more to.

Neanderthal, Monday, 21 October 2013 14:52 (ten years ago) link

Yeah, I'm probably overthinking it a little. I have a "workplace family" thing going on here where we all have to act like we're much tighter than we really are, and I find it a little odd. But the people I work with are a little odd. I've gotten fairly close to some co-workers at other jobs where I'd actually care a little more about their lives. I've also had jobs that are more professional and we weren't expected to give a shit so there was no pressure to "perform".

Here it's just screwy, feels very manufactured and I guess I'm a little resistant to it.

Spectrum, Monday, 21 October 2013 15:00 (ten years ago) link

That's totally understandable.

carl agatha, Monday, 21 October 2013 15:09 (ten years ago) link

yeah I get that too. I'm friendly with my team as I like them, but overall with colleagues, I don't like to get too chummy where possible cuz I need to be able to scream "WHAT THE FUCK" at them on occasion when they screw up.

Neanderthal, Monday, 21 October 2013 15:11 (ten years ago) link

that and it's a job. you're going to be fucking off to somewhere else at some point in the future. what i prefer is either something laidback and casual, sort-of a free for all, or something hyper professional. this weird, gooey center is just bizarre and a little frustrating. feels like i'm working in ned flander's reneducation center.

http://i55.tinypic.com/httibm.jpg

Spectrum, Monday, 21 October 2013 15:16 (ten years ago) link

It was a little like that when I worked for the state, but part of that was because for a long time, people really did have a family-like bond. I mean, holy shit one of my former coworkers got married in the conference room in the middle of a work day and I am not even kidding. When I was there, a lot of that had faded away because literal politics made the staffing situation unstable so there wasn't that "hired at 20, work in the same job until you retire" longevity, but it was still very much an undercurrent to the culture.

carl agatha, Monday, 21 October 2013 15:19 (ten years ago) link

It didn't feel forced, though, is what I am saying. I've worked in forced family workplaces, too, and those are just gross, especially since I tend to like to have a nice, clear delineation between my work life and my home life.

carl agatha, Monday, 21 October 2013 15:20 (ten years ago) link

i understand it if everyone was working there for forever and formed acutal, genuine bonds. it's the forced aspect that gets me. example: my team throws birthday parties for everyone. one time there was this guy who seemed to really enjoy it, like it actually had some effect on him. a little later on at a co-worker happy hour people were making fun of him for actually giving a shit about it. it's like, why even bother then?

Spectrum, Monday, 21 October 2013 15:25 (ten years ago) link

At my job, money is also collected on such occasions. Being the recipient is what would really make me uncomfortable. And people often come around collecting for people I've never heard of, though it's possible I know them by sight.

MrDasher, Monday, 21 October 2013 15:54 (ten years ago) link

That happened at the state a lot, too. People collected money when coworkers had deaths in the family, which I thought was weird. Also for birthday/going away parties, but not everybody got those. I generally only gave money when it was somebody I had an actual relationship with and not like, Bob in compliance who never said hi to me and always got me confused with the other Jennifer in our department when he was passing out notices or whatever.

carl agatha, Monday, 21 October 2013 16:20 (ten years ago) link

Supervisor just approached coworker to explain something to her, something quite simple and easily understood though most would agree also petty and unnecessary that some people upstairs were complaining about. She clearly understood the entire matter immediately and said so. She also quite clearly wanted to be left alone to continue with her other work, yet even after establishing that she understood he kept explaining and explaining.
When he approached other coworker about the same matter earlier they had words and coworker shouted at him to go away.
I don't know why he is approaching people one by one but now I have to sit here wondering if he's going to come over and bother me with the same thing though I already heard his unnecessary explanation which he would no doubt go on and on about anyway.

MrDasher, Monday, 21 October 2013 20:05 (ten years ago) link

The singing/humming of the woman on the other side of my cube wall is just the worst. I hate the "feeling" she puts in it. The same woman is a very loud, overemphatic talker who always sounds like she's lecturing with this strident, grating, know-it-all tone.

MrDasher, Wednesday, 23 October 2013 15:25 (ten years ago) link

kill them all

conrad, Wednesday, 23 October 2013 15:27 (ten years ago) link

People collected money when coworkers had deaths in the family, which I thought was weird

burying ppl is expensive

drugs/lies: poll (darraghmac), Wednesday, 23 October 2013 15:36 (ten years ago) link

Truly! But in my previous experience ppl would collect for flowers and not just a cash fund. It makes practical sense but per USA customs with which I'm familiar it seemed a little tacky.

carl agatha, Wednesday, 23 October 2013 17:21 (ten years ago) link

not in mine, but tbph the good ppl we worked with would have been aware that eh yknow etc.

drugs/lies: poll (darraghmac), Wednesday, 23 October 2013 18:45 (ten years ago) link

"You know, if you look just at the body count numbers alone, we didn't really lose Vietnam."

pplains, Friday, 25 October 2013 17:19 (ten years ago) link

"and the Germans won WWII."
dare i ask the context?

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 25 October 2013 18:23 (ten years ago) link

I don't even know how it came up. Whether JFK would've really lead U.S. foreign policy toward a different direction than LBJ.

I'm just sitting here with my earbuds in. I can't help what I hear between songs.

pplains, Friday, 25 October 2013 18:32 (ten years ago) link

If you have a cold do you

a) take the day of work, take it easy, feel better
b) come in to work, spend the whole day sniffling and blowing your nose at high volume annoying the whole office

gah

I like to think I have learnt a thing or two about music (Neil S), Tuesday, 29 October 2013 16:13 (ten years ago) link

LOL less than 15 seconds ago at work, I sniffled, snorted, and blew my nose and apologized.

Taking days off for a cold isn't really much of a thing here. :(

disgruntled punter (Je55e), Tuesday, 29 October 2013 16:59 (ten years ago) link

Yeah, ditto. Here, even if you say that you're taking the day off work because you're ill, people just carry on as though you are working a full day, piling on the work like you did not just send out an email about how you can't stop barfing.

carl agatha, Tuesday, 29 October 2013 18:28 (ten years ago) link

You forgot the part of b) where it's contagious and you make everyone else ill and miserable too.

But despite the fact that they moan like hell whenever anyone so much as sneezes near them ("ohhh, I'd better not get that! lol!!"), if you call in with "a cold" your boss will kindly inform the rest of the office that you described it as such and there will be an office full of bitching and tittering about how a cold isn't enough for a day off. So you'd better be prepared to call it flu and act like it might be the very latest deadliest strain yet, like everyone else does. And then everyone complains about how everyone else is probably making it up whenever they call in sick.

I mostly like my coworkers but the amount of gossiping and bitchiness that goes on whenever anyone is out of the office is enough to make me never want to go back in sometimes.

the supreme personality of Godhead : a summary study (a passing spacecadet), Tuesday, 29 October 2013 19:08 (ten years ago) link

i guess i'm lucky to work in a place where i can get away with calling in hungover.

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 29 October 2013 19:12 (ten years ago) link

why the hell specify how sick you are, just say you are sick

mh, Tuesday, 29 October 2013 19:13 (ten years ago) link

if they want to know if I'm actually sick they can require me to get documentation from a doctor

mh, Tuesday, 29 October 2013 19:14 (ten years ago) link

guy: (laughs aloud)

office: *no one says anything*

guy: (laughs louder)

office: *for god's sake don't ask him what he's laughing at*

guy: HA! HA! THAT'S GOOD STUFF!

office: *crickets*

guy: (sigh)

mookieproof, Tuesday, 29 October 2013 19:17 (ten years ago) link

hahaha

Victor Immature (WilliamC), Tuesday, 29 October 2013 19:24 (ten years ago) link

I said, HAHAHA!

Victor Immature (WilliamC), Tuesday, 29 October 2013 19:25 (ten years ago) link

My old boss used to do that! She'd laugh in her office, or make little "Oh no!!!" type exclamations in the hope someone would ask her what she was on about. My coworkers and I would intentionally refuse to entertain such behavior and see how long it would take her to just come out and tell us whatever she was hoping we would ask her about.

carl agatha, Tuesday, 29 October 2013 19:34 (ten years ago) link

"pay attention to me" passive-aggression is worse than "I'm mad at you" passive-aggression

Victor Immature (WilliamC), Tuesday, 29 October 2013 19:36 (ten years ago) link

There's probably one in every office.

pplains, Tuesday, 29 October 2013 19:57 (ten years ago) link

why the hell specify how sick you are, just say you are sick

― mh, Tuesday, October 29, 2013 1:13 PM (41 minutes ago) Bookmark

I don't know if I've ever worked in a place where you didn't have to make a case for being too sick to come in.

disgruntled punter (Je55e), Tuesday, 29 October 2013 20:03 (ten years ago) link

if they want to know if I'm actually sick they can require me to get documentation from a doctor

― mh, Tuesday, October 29, 2013 1:14 PM (49 minutes ago) Bookmark

At the last restaurant where I worked management sometimes required doctors' notes b/c they knew we'd come to work - sick or not - rather than endure the expense and hassle of going to a doctor. Especially bad since like most restaurant workers, we didn't health insurance.

disgruntled punter (Je55e), Tuesday, 29 October 2013 20:10 (ten years ago) link

my workplace is especially humanitarian when it comes to such things, I guess

generally if you're sick and feel you're going to be working at a diminished capacity they should realize it's worth staying home because:
- one day of rest means shorter duration of illness
- coming to work means you'll infect other people

if it's a deadline time or something needs done IMMEDIATELY then it's an issue, but otherwise, fuck their shoddy business practices

mh, Tuesday, 29 October 2013 20:13 (ten years ago) link

although, take it with a grain of salt, because I'm the guy who thought he had a weak cold for two weeks one time and then later determined I had ultra-strep

mh, Tuesday, 29 October 2013 20:14 (ten years ago) link

It's just that I work for a big law firm and they don't care. I mean, they care on an individual level but institutionally, there's too much pressure to get things done.

carl agatha, Tuesday, 29 October 2013 21:12 (ten years ago) link

Re. former moaning about sniffling, I work in a library, no one will die if a member of staff takes the day off.

I like to think I have learnt a thing or two about music (Neil S), Tuesday, 29 October 2013 21:30 (ten years ago) link

why the hell specify how sick you are, just say you are sick

― mh, Tuesday, October 29, 2013 3:13 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

otm. employers in FL aren't even allowed to ask why, and nobody needs to know that you have explosive diarrhea or that you are carrying the bubonic plague.

I've only had one boss in my 9 years at this place who sounded skeptical of my illness. Terrible boss. I had a sinusitis related migraine and he bullied me into coming in mid-day.

your face comes with coleslaw (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 29 October 2013 21:42 (ten years ago) link

should have just told him you had explosive diarrhea

mh, Tuesday, 29 October 2013 21:46 (ten years ago) link

it works every time

reckless woo (Z S), Tuesday, 29 October 2013 21:47 (ten years ago) link

"upset stomach" works every time, whether that be explosive diarrhoea or (just hypothetically speaking) a terrible hangover, or even both

I like to think I have learnt a thing or two about music (Neil S), Tuesday, 29 October 2013 21:50 (ten years ago) link

"Explosive diarrhoea, it works every time. So you don't have to."
http://bfcgroup.com/helluvatough/billydeesign.jpg

not a lunch that is hot (snoball), Tuesday, 29 October 2013 21:52 (ten years ago) link

i have no guilt at taking time off work with a cold* because a) i (usually) picked up that cold at work (so much coughing) and b) the unpaid overtime the rest of the year. and colds are debilitating whether it's the inability to breathe properly, the aching or the lost sleep. i wouldn't be up to much in the office so why risk spreading it?

(* twice this year, 3 days each time)

koogs, Wednesday, 30 October 2013 09:35 (ten years ago) link

important update: no let-up in the snuffling.

I like to think I have learnt a thing or two about music (Neil S), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 09:39 (ten years ago) link

There are other reasons why someone may need time off work sick than colds/flu, guh.

taxi tomato or bag tomato (Trayce), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 09:53 (ten years ago) link

Don't think anyone has suggested otherwise?

I like to think I have learnt a thing or two about music (Neil S), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 11:58 (ten years ago) link

Not a co-worker, really, but the lady that cleans our office while super nice, has been coming increasingly earlier and earlier to clean our suite. The past two weeks she's started showing up at 4:45 (we remain pretty generally well-staffed until about 5:30), so it's become a game of dodging her huge cart while trying to maneuver around the office and her interrupting phone calls to get our garbage cans. Normally it's not a huge thing at all, but we've had a bunch of deadlines lately and things have been super tense, making it really annoying.

JACK SQUAT about these Charlie Nobodies (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 22:33 (ten years ago) link

OH I wasnt having a go at you Neil! Just a general sigh at the idea people always assume you have a wimpy cold if yr off sick.

signed, someone who suffers from embarrassingly painful female issues that no one ever accepts as a reason to be sick.

taxi tomato or bag tomato (Trayce), Thursday, 31 October 2013 00:41 (ten years ago) link

"pay attention to me" passive-aggression is worse than "I'm mad at you" passive-aggression

conrad, Thursday, 31 October 2013 09:10 (ten years ago) link

my office is in a real flux at the moment, moving premises, people's jobs on the line, it's a bad enough vibe, but i swear i have one coworker who has kinda flipped the lid a bit, just like, when someone decides to run themselves down all the time in that jokey british kind of way, but actually it results in either pretending to be annoyed at an innocuous joke someone makes, or talking incessantly about problems, or private issues, or referencing her pma daily like it's a person who we are all familiar with and someone who sits in the office.

it's enough to make you steal the character for a play except it prob wouldn't be believable. she also has this cat that she got when her fiancee walked out on her, and the poor thing is the sickest cat in the world, it's like fate brought the two together, every day there's a story of it vomiting on her and her cancelling a holiday to look after millstone the cat.

Legitimate space tale (LocalGarda), Thursday, 31 October 2013 09:50 (ten years ago) link

it really makes me think about our natural tendency towards masochism.

Legitimate space tale (LocalGarda), Thursday, 31 October 2013 09:51 (ten years ago) link

ha

midwife christless (darraghmac), Thursday, 31 October 2013 10:13 (ten years ago) link

probably calling it "millstone" was a bad idea to begin with

I like to think I have learnt a thing or two about music (Neil S), Thursday, 31 October 2013 10:17 (ten years ago) link

"millstone the cat" made me LOL

carl agatha, Thursday, 31 October 2013 14:52 (ten years ago) link

Staying late at work. Thought the sysadmin would stop talking/singing to himself once I walked past his desk and he knew he wasn't the only one in the building.

Nope... still talking. Talking quite loudly, asking himself questions theatrically.

(crams headphones in, watches clock, plans exit)

the supreme personality of Godhead : a summary study (a passing spacecadet), Wednesday, 6 November 2013 17:45 (ten years ago) link

i work from home and sometimes my roommate has loud sex. I'm terrified of one of the days this might happen while the phone is not on mute.

your face comes with coleslaw (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 6 November 2013 18:12 (ten years ago) link

I talk to myself at my desk all day long :/ I'm That Person. LOL.

taxi tomato or bag tomato (Trayce), Thursday, 7 November 2013 02:21 (ten years ago) link

the other day, I still hadn't received information that I very much needed, so I sent an email follow-up stressing the urgency (the language was probably a bit more dramatic than I had planned, as I was without my meds that day). I opted to leave the project manager off because I wanted to talk to one of our tech guys first to see if it was something simple to solve, and figured I'd forward it to him if I didn't have a satisfactory reply by noon.

Someone else on the email decides to forward it to the project manager. Project manager blows up my spot on a conference call for not looping him in, and letting someone else forward it. I can't remember the last time I was that angry at someone. Had to explain to the PM why I'd left him off. Was going to give a sternly worded follow-up to the person who forwarded the message, but decided it's not worth it, as in three months she'll be off the project anyway.

your face comes with coleslaw (Neanderthal), Thursday, 7 November 2013 16:29 (ten years ago) link

i work with an older american hispanic guy, who is reasonably nice and quite good at what he does and professionally we work well together. we have a client that exports furniture material to rwanda and uganda for manufacture. he is from uganda. today, my coworker pretended to be a southern american plantation owner and told our client, "be quiet, the white man is talking" in a poor southern accent. he also insists that our ugandan client is a muslim and derides his nonexistent refusal to eat pork and frequently makes reference to the september 11th terrorist attacks.

dylannn, Thursday, 7 November 2013 16:37 (ten years ago) link

also, he is married. when i come in on monday and he asks me about my weekend, i try to be lowkey and sketch out some details. but he invariably steers our chat toward sexual topics and directly asks if i "got any pussy" or took any girls home. in the same vein, he likes to tell me stories about times when he almost cheated on his wife but stopped himself. he frequently tells stories from his younger days or whatever and they always start with him taking mescaline and end with him having sex.

dylannn, Thursday, 7 November 2013 16:41 (ten years ago) link

That man is a gross racist.

carl agatha, Thursday, 7 November 2013 17:33 (ten years ago) link

i'm definitely getting that vibe, yeah.

dylannn, Thursday, 7 November 2013 18:05 (ten years ago) link

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGHHHHHHH STOP IT, NNGNNNGNGNNGNGNHGHGHHGHHGHHGHGH

reckless woo (Z S), Thursday, 14 November 2013 16:49 (ten years ago) link

stop calling me "brother," Tim! it's not entertaining

mh, Thursday, 14 November 2013 16:50 (ten years ago) link

I should get all evangelical here on the office and see what happens.

"Brother Holcott, do you have any extra P-20 templates?"

pplains, Thursday, 14 November 2013 17:07 (ten years ago) link

one month passes...

Listening to someone I've probably mentioned on this thread before giving "induction information" to a new guy.

"this one guy from another department - the department used to be called something different - bob and frank and steve used to be head of the department but now it's frank and ben - ben's all right, he bought me a drink once - and bob, he works for department z instead now - department z are at [address] after they moved and changed their name in 1989..." (continues for 6 hours)

"well that one guy said [extended description of clearly noncommittal statements] so i know for a FACT he is very interested in what we're doing here" (continues for several more hours of delusional self-aggrandisement)

NOBODY NEEDS TO HEAR THIS ON THEIR FIRST DAY.

not a player-hater i just hate a lot (a passing spacecadet), Monday, 16 December 2013 11:55 (ten years ago) link

ok, i like this guy a lot, it was a jokey convo over email, and he might be kidding, but:

"What is the male version of an ‘heiress’? I’d like to be that."

napgenius (goole), Thursday, 19 December 2013 18:13 (ten years ago) link

heirloom iirc

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 19 December 2013 18:21 (ten years ago) link

heiry.

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 20 December 2013 00:02 (ten years ago) link

heir bud

T.S.O.Liot (CharlieS), Friday, 20 December 2013 02:43 (ten years ago) link

There's an older staffer in my office who has been there so long and is such an institution that she kind of forgets we actually do work sometimes. I mean she's perfectly competent, but she mostly doesn't give a fuck when she doesn't have to, which, you know, fine, probably the right attitude to have at that point.

Anyway, the other day I'm on a call with a partner, on speaker, but I have my door open, so she walks into my office. So I make the "I'm in the middle of something important" wave-off gesture. She ignores it, and just sits down in the chair on the other side of my desk. This is an important call about a time-sensitive thing going on. So I keep talking to him, and it goes on a few more minutes, and she starts smirking and making the "Get on with it" hand gesture. I'd say as much as ten minutes go by, finally I'm off the call. What does she want? FOR ME TO PICK A NAME OUT OF A HAT FOR SECRET SANTA

signed, J.P. Morgan CEO (Hurting 2), Friday, 20 December 2013 03:01 (ten years ago) link

facepalm

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 20 December 2013 15:27 (ten years ago) link

had a mediocre year-end review, but the feedback was very constructive. all well and good, but I am thinking the feedback was from the person who is meant to be coaching my team, so why was this feedback not delivered in a more timely manner than the year end? irritating.

mh, Friday, 20 December 2013 15:30 (ten years ago) link

Same lady just did it to me again. This time I was obviously on the cell phone (with my wife about our sick toddler, as it happened) and she just barges in and goes "Haha did you see that e-mail?!" She was wearing a green sweater and a red jacket and a santa hat (because today was the office holiday thing). I have worked the entire weekend two weeks straight and gotten no more than five hours of sleep a night for over two weeks, I have so little patience for this shit right now.

signed, J.P. Morgan CEO (Hurting 2), Saturday, 21 December 2013 05:03 (ten years ago) link

We got an email today feeling everyone out about Santa Claus visiting the office. Would we bring our children up? Maybe our pets?

I didn't respond, but no, I'm trying to wrap up two weeks worth of work in two days. Monday and Tuesday could be my busiest days of the year. I'm not complaining, I'm working hard because my company is gracious enough to give everyone a complimentary week off between 12/25 and 1/2. But no, I will not have time to go drive to the kids' daycare, pick them up, bring them back to the office to visit this Santa man, take them back to daycare, finish my work and go home before the real Santa appears. Thanks anyway.

pplains, Saturday, 21 December 2013 05:25 (ten years ago) link

that sounds like an idea likely the brainchild of a person without children.

Which reminds me, I sometimes gripe about how miserly my office is -- our holiday "party" is typically everyone cramped into a conference room to eat pizza for 30 mins -- but I'm kind of thankful that my office doesn't have lots of mandatory holiday bullshit, because I'm working so much lately that I'm just thankful not to have additional mandatory time to be with my co-workers and away from my family.

signed, J.P. Morgan CEO (Hurting 2), Saturday, 21 December 2013 05:28 (ten years ago) link

You're right re: person w/o children, but she does have a dog!

pplains, Saturday, 21 December 2013 05:29 (ten years ago) link

which is almost like having kids, say childless dog owners

signed, J.P. Morgan CEO (Hurting 2), Saturday, 21 December 2013 05:40 (ten years ago) link

I shouldn't really be on this thread because while my co-workers are stupid and annoying, I also love them and I'm definitely no better than they are.

But I went through this same situation less than a month ago when not only did I have five days of work to wrap up before Thanksgiving, but I also had that rare November that ended on a weekend, meaning I wouldn't have a Nov. 29 or Nov. 30 to come back in and get things done before everything new sprung up on the 1st.

Which is fine, I'm not laying bricks, it doesn't happen very often... but my boss comes over that Wednesday and says, "Dude, go home." And I tell him, well, I don't think I can, not this year. He asks how he can help, what can he do, and I tell him it's a bunch of design stuff that he can't really do or doesn't have the software for (he's an actual journalist, not a copy-and-paster like myself), and I'm trying to let him off the hook. But no, every fifteen minutes he's either telling me how sorry he is that I have to work like this or wondering if maybe we can get the IT guys to load a copy of InDesign on to his computer. JUST LET ME DO THIS STUPID THING YOU PAY ME TO DO, I SWEAR I WORK BETTER WHEN YOU LEAVE ME ALONE NOTHING PERSONAL.

pplains, Saturday, 21 December 2013 05:48 (ten years ago) link

My office has a pretty significant workload divide btw attys and staff, where attys tend to work late and weekends while staff tend to stick to their hours unless it's an emergency. I generally have no problem with this, understanding that it's reflected in compensation. However, occasionally I get IA at the inability of the lazier few staffers (mostly the aforementioned lady) to understand that some of us are actually busy a lot of the time with real work.

signed, J.P. Morgan CEO (Hurting 2), Saturday, 21 December 2013 05:57 (ten years ago) link

three weeks pass...

This is about stupid, annoying former co-workers at the job I used to post about here a lot but one of my neither stupid nor annoying former coworkers sent me an email about the politically connected dingwad they hired to replace me and in summary:

1. The entire agency was sent to an "Emotional Intelligence" workshop, which lololololllllllll forever right there.
2. The Dingwad was very obviously texting/playing games/who know what on her phone* during the workshop, as in holding the phone up at chest level with no pretense of paying attention at all.
3. The employee responsible for organizing the workshop gestured for her to put the phone down and pay attention. She did not.
4. The employee passed her a note telling her to be cool with the phone thing. She did not.
5. The employee interrupted the workshop to tell the Dingwad in front of everybody to put the phone down and pay attention. The dingwad made a big, noisy show of putting the phone down, then continued to use it in her lap like a civilized person who is in a meeting she hates.
6. But eventually she got tired of the subterfuge and just went back to her original texting methods.
7. The outside workshop leader hired by my former employer to conduct the workshop - the workshop on emotional intelligence, mind you - stopped her lecture to attempt to publicly shame the Dingwad into putting the phone down and paying attention.
8. In response, the Dingwad noisily packed up her belongs, announced that she had work to do, and walked out.

It's worth noting that my former boss was pressured to hire the Dingwad over another, waaaaaay more qualified and contentious applicant (she had already held the position for a year in another office) despite the fact that my former boss is connected as hell (that's how he got his job). Anyway, sometimes I think about going back to not that job, but maybe public employment, but at je55e's recommendation, I'm going to print out that email and read it any time that thought crosses my mind.

*She once approached a coworker with a legal question, and while he gamely started searching for a case with the answer, she sat down on his desk and whipped her phone out while he did her work for her.

carl agatha, Tuesday, 14 January 2014 14:02 (ten years ago) link

conscientious, not contentious

That's what I get for accepting a spelling correction without actually looking at it.

carl agatha, Tuesday, 14 January 2014 14:04 (ten years ago) link

which one of you wrote this:
http://www.theguardian.com/money/work-blog/2014/jan/10/singing-colleague-distracts-me-work-advice

kinder, Tuesday, 14 January 2014 18:45 (ten years ago) link

Surely the question is 'which ILXor is the singing colleague?'

time is a train that make the future flag post (snoball), Tuesday, 14 January 2014 18:52 (ten years ago) link

four weeks pass...

yo.

look man.

if you're not gonna do your job, i feel you. working sucks. sometimes you don't wanna work.

but you know sometimes not working is gonna put you under the gun, right? you get that your incomplete data is gonna cause problems?

and you know that when you're causing problems, that the man-up move is to say "yo, i'm sorry, i'm behind, let me fix this," right?

so you understand that it's inappropriate to try to go all watergate and cover up your slippage by asking *me* to stop my report so nobody notices your missing data? and you get that it's problematic to lie to me and act like the missing data in my report is a consequence of bad report structure on *my* part?

and you get that it's beyond the FUCKING pale to straight up *lie* to your boss and say that we're slipping on this deadline because *my* reporting is fucked up? and you get that it's bullshit to try to duct-tape-and-string a solution together and then tell your boss you *have to* because ~i~ fucked up?

motherfucker i have been on the phone with you for hours a day holding your hand while you sight-type into your fisher price front end, and then you're gonna try to throw me under the bus?

this shit nearly got me fired, because they thought *i* had fucked up. change your game or move on, dogg. and don't call me again.

― BIG HOOS aka the denigrated boogeyman (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Thursday, August 8, 2013 4:01 PM (6 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

so

this guy just fucked me **again**.

called me. had me tweak a SQL query by a centimeter. i'm wary, but i'm like "what the fuck can go wrong here, i'm doing this cat a tiny favor and we're like trying to rebuild rapport."

then he went and did all kinds of godknows on his end and broke the shit.

tells his boss, and my boss, "why isn't HOOS's thing working"

this.

motherfucker.

i have the new brutal HOOS if you want it (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Wednesday, 12 February 2014 15:56 (ten years ago) link

Can you tell your boss (and his boss) like "this guy is doing all this shady-ass shit"?

vylvyt ylvis (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 12 February 2014 17:23 (ten years ago) link

Or go to him and be like "I'm going out of my way to help you do your job AND help you cover your ass; why are you fucking me over?"

vylvyt ylvis (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 12 February 2014 17:24 (ten years ago) link

why don't you say "You are right, it was all my fault. I am very sorry."

Brian Eno's Mother (Latham Green), Wednesday, 12 February 2014 17:25 (ten years ago) link

Can you tell your boss (and his boss) like "this guy is doing all this shady-ass shit"?

― vylvyt ylvis (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, February 12, 2014 5:23 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

well now they all know what happened last time, and my boss is basically saying "i'm not *his* boss, just yours--so if he makes you look bad, i have to give you shit, but if it turns out to have been his fault i can't do anything about it--stop doing him favors"

i have the new brutal HOOS if you want it (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Wednesday, 12 February 2014 18:35 (ten years ago) link

Or go to him and be like "I'm going out of my way to help you do your job AND help you cover your ass; why are you fucking me over?"

― vylvyt ylvis (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, February 12, 2014 5:24 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

ultimately the problem is that *he doesn't even know these things are his fault*--he's not blaming me out of malice, he's blaming me out of ignorance. and it's only by untangling his trainwrecks, which he doesn't know how to do, that i even get to discover that he was in the wrong to begin with.

i feel like this is what people in IT must feel like.

"i unplugged my ethernet cable. why did you break my internet."

i have the new brutal HOOS if you want it (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Wednesday, 12 February 2014 18:37 (ten years ago) link

Oh Jesus, yes, now you are speaking my language

vylvyt ylvis (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 12 February 2014 19:32 (ten years ago) link

texts i received yesterday from a co-worker (working about 100 feet away in a different office):

"Has that fat, useless cow shown up yet? Ugh, I don't even want to see him..."

"I'll be ur Valentine if u cause him to have a heart attack and/or stroke..."

The Wisdom of Gafflers (JoeStork), Saturday, 15 February 2014 18:18 (ten years ago) link

je55e, I found a picture of your coworkers:

http://31.media.tumblr.com/4bf927d1458f6a7cc957c1e1a9fe0404/tumblr_mqpcjk9iF81qd8ysoo1_500.jpg

carl agatha, Friday, 21 February 2014 16:59 (ten years ago) link

lolsob

One of them actually gets worse with time. This week she freed herself of being able to comprehend tracked changes in Word.

Je55e, Saturday, 22 February 2014 02:28 (ten years ago) link

Agh Aghh that happened to a colleague this week too! Result: scanned in version of printed doc with edits in pen. >:(

kinder, Saturday, 22 February 2014 10:26 (ten years ago) link

Yesterday a co-worker insisted that I watch a scene from Deuce Bigalow: Male Gigolo on his phone, saying, "If you don't laugh at this, there's something fucking wrong with you."

The Wisdom of Gafflers (JoeStork), Saturday, 22 February 2014 17:41 (ten years ago) link

wtf, even mainstream fart-comedy fans have forgotten that turgid flick by now

Neanderthal, Saturday, 22 February 2014 19:03 (ten years ago) link

I have had issues with one colleague for a while. Just consistent undermining, and she's not even a member of my project team, but always interferes. We just had an internal debrief with leadership and we were supposed to put Powerpoints together detailing what went well and what could go better. I edited mine and forwarded them on. She waited until I was on vacation, snuck in an update, and reattached it without notifying me so that it snuck into the final copy.

I eviscerated her for that one. such grade school pettiness.

Neanderthal, Saturday, 22 February 2014 19:04 (ten years ago) link

to be clear, she took my slide and updated it (we were not supposed to touch each other's slides)

Neanderthal, Saturday, 22 February 2014 19:05 (ten years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Coworker who shares a room with me told me that I had a missed call from someone while I was out at lunch. She complains that the caller left it ringing for about 5 mins by which time he should have given up, thereby disturbing her concentration. I ask her why she didn't simply answer the phone and take a message to which she replies "He was calling you, not me."

my father will guide me up the stairs to bed (anagram), Thursday, 20 March 2014 16:34 (ten years ago) link

had to have docs reviewed and feedback given by a peer in another dept on a project, and they asked if we could hand off as we finished each doc. So I had the bulk of them subbed over to this person by 2/25, the remainder all handed off by 3/7. Deadline was 3/21.

Assured I'd get it by then. 3/21 passes, I get a little over half of them. Get daily promises for the remainder. Friday ends, still nothing, I'm told Saturday. Today, I'm off, but log in...nothing, was told she had 'computer issues'. It's been over a month now and the review takes like two hours.

If this person reported to me, I could have had this resolved weeks ago. since they don't, no matter how stern my message, it has little effect. *sigh*.

Neanderthal, Monday, 31 March 2014 16:25 (ten years ago) link

Had that last week but by someone senior. Had to bust a gut like never before to reach a deadline :(

kinder, Monday, 31 March 2014 19:28 (ten years ago) link

guy at the desk next to me got poached by another department.

can't begrudge him seeing an opportunity and taking it--i'd do it too.

still, our team is fucked now.

purposely lend impetus to my HOOS (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Monday, 31 March 2014 19:49 (ten years ago) link

I don't think I wanna play at IT any more, on account of being increasingly tired of:
1. dudes;
2. young people;

3. dudes who think they're hot shit by some personal definition which features Being A Dude as an unwritten, unexamined cornerstone;
4. young people who think they're hot shit by some personal definition which features Being Young as an unwritten, unexamined cornerstone;
5. a whole gang of all of the above forming and cutting out anyone not meeting their criteria;
6. (a) listening to one of them take over the all-staff meeting to talk non-stop about his opinions after 3 weeks in the job, followed by (b) getting a reply from another which ignored the question and was at the level of "the keyboard is the clicky thing in front of the monitor, now don't worry your pretty fat ugly head about the details", then (c) meeting a friend at the pub only for the whole gang to be there braying at the next table (without inviting or acknowledging me, obv)

the ghosts of dead pom-bears (a passing spacecadet), Monday, 31 March 2014 20:30 (ten years ago) link

alternative reading which doesn't involve accusations of unconscious sexism ("but who is the REAL sexist, for even noticing that all these people are men and most of the people they won't let finish sentences are women?"):

my org does a lot of things quite badly but to have so many new staff start and ignore everyone who's been there for several years in favour of bro-ing down raucously w/ each other is p. annoying. Hi, we've got problems but we know why things were done the way they were, would anyone like to know about that? Guess not

Sorry to write this on this heretofore equal opportunities thread, because I appreciate that it will be read by men and young people who are not like the above, and indeed there are men at my work who don't do the above (but are closer to being invited in than most of the women), and I don't mean to tar you all with the same brush, I just don't know how else to explain the tiredness

the ghosts of dead pom-bears (a passing spacecadet), Monday, 31 March 2014 20:33 (ten years ago) link

i have a vision of a conference room - all serious executives - the leader is disaplying their buttocks - they are all carefulyl studying - it is the most important decision fo their lives

Brian Eno's Mother (Latham Green), Monday, 31 March 2014 20:46 (ten years ago) link

I have some thoughts about being a woman full of male execs and all I can say is that I failed to lean in and instead fled to a career where I didn't have to deal anymore.

This makes me either a failed feminist or a sensible human being and frankly I don't care which, 'cause I am never going back.

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Tuesday, 1 April 2014 03:49 (ten years ago) link

Um whoops I meant "woman in a peer group full of male execs" because believe you me, I would not have sex with any of these peoples

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Tuesday, 1 April 2014 03:50 (ten years ago) link

i have a vision of a conference room - all serious executives - the leader is disaplying their buttocks - they are all carefulyl studying - it is the most important decision fo their lives

this is the perfect summation of corporate lyfe

the Bronski Review (Trayce), Tuesday, 1 April 2014 10:45 (ten years ago) link

Sorry to write this on this heretofore equal opportunities thread, because I appreciate that it will be read by men and young people who are not like the above

Fair enough, too. I'm a man but most of my coworkers/superiors are women and, while far from bullshit-free, this workplace has so much less bullshit than most places I've been in.

ornamental cabbage (James Morrison), Wednesday, 2 April 2014 01:42 (ten years ago) link

p much all my superiors are women and ive not noticed a decline in bullshit but it does, in all fairness, seem to be of a softer variety

recommend me a new bagman (darraghmac), Wednesday, 2 April 2014 01:46 (ten years ago) link

The bullshit tends to be more earnestness/endless browbeating over things that aren't worth it and less tiresome endless big dick pissing contests

ornamental cabbage (James Morrison), Wednesday, 2 April 2014 05:24 (ten years ago) link

I don't think they are stupid, but I am very slightly annoyed by some people at my workplace who walk around talking philosophy to others whenever they get the chance. I've had philosophical discussions with them, but it seems they always want to talk about some greater meaning and dissect everything without even agreeing on their own (many times) limited knowledge and expertise.

I don't even get involved. I just ignore them now.

, Wednesday, 2 April 2014 16:58 (ten years ago) link

most offices woudl be better if everyone was nude

Brian Eno's Mother (Latham Green), Wednesday, 2 April 2014 19:18 (ten years ago) link

^I smell a movie by edgy Danish director Lars Von Trier.

, Wednesday, 2 April 2014 21:46 (ten years ago) link

I can hear a guy clipping his nails. He's about 60 feet away.

two bunny rabbits on mushrooms singing Proclaimers songs (onimo), Thursday, 3 April 2014 15:18 (ten years ago) link

look on the bright side - it's probably too far away for you to be hit with a stray chunk of fingernail accidentally ejected from the clippers.

bizarro gazzara, Thursday, 3 April 2014 15:37 (ten years ago) link

dear team member, i'm fucked if i'm watching it but i've double-checked and We Need to Talk About Kevin is not a documentary about autism spectrum conditions so for fuck's sake please do not bring that notion to work with you, cheers

twistent consistent (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 8 April 2014 14:40 (ten years ago) link

lol

goole, Tuesday, 8 April 2014 16:10 (ten years ago) link

had a super weird thing happen in a meeting.

i work mostly with people in another city. we have weekly meetings where i'm 'present' via videoconference. our manager (who i like a lot) tries to be a little bit touchy-feely, and we all have plenty of other venues to talk about work-qua-work, so this meeting is mainly to talk about life. it's a little awkward honestly. basically, aside from a very brief update on what we're up to, there's an icebreaker style question that we answer. there's also been a reorg and another six or so people have joined; i don't know any of them.

so the last question was "what's something you look forward to?" either monthly, yearly, w/e.

mind you this is a tech business. there's some people from around the world, and two women out of a dozen, but there is a general assume homogeneity to people's education and outlook.

this guy i don't know answers his question: he said he looks forward to getting this newsletter every month. it's from the same people who run the creationist museum. you know, the guy who just debated bill nye on tv? and people were like, yeah i saw that! so hilarious! the guy continues: yeah, they have all these articles about how the basics of science like chemistry and physics are actually totally fine with a young-earth creationist perspective. and then he... stops talking. that's it.

and awkward silence descends. and i'm very conscious of my HUGE FACE on a fucking tv looming over the end of the conference table hundreds of miles away, like don'tlookhorrified don'tlookhorrified

goole, Tuesday, 8 April 2014 16:24 (ten years ago) link

i still don't know what the guy's point was! either he was letting it out that he was a creationist OR he got halfway into his story about reading that stuff for a joke but thought he might offend someone so stopped before he got to the punchline. but his affect was so flat it was impossible to tell.

lol, work.

goole, Tuesday, 8 April 2014 16:25 (ten years ago) link

I am picturing your face on the screen and dying laughing. I hope this gives you some sort of consolation.

have a nice blood/orange bitters cocktail (mh), Tuesday, 8 April 2014 17:22 (ten years ago) link

My coworkers are generally quiet about things outside of norms but there is some person parks near me who has some weird printout statement about socialism being horrible in their rear windshield!!

On the other hand, someone has a Lexus suv with a Flying Spaghetti Monster emblem on it parked outside the building right now

have a nice blood/orange bitters cocktail (mh), Tuesday, 8 April 2014 17:35 (ten years ago) link

i am picturing that being printed on

http://i01.i.aliimg.com/img/pb/062/588/510/510588062_107.jpg

j., Tuesday, 8 April 2014 18:00 (ten years ago) link

goole, losing composure

http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lpih6bGStO1ql8i93o1_500.gif

pplains, Tuesday, 8 April 2014 21:25 (ten years ago) link

lol

goole, Tuesday, 8 April 2014 22:31 (ten years ago) link

this is not directed at anyone in particular but if i don't work with you on a daily basis and i get your meeting invite and the body of said invite is completely blank then you are a rude asshole who is likely to waste my time

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 22 April 2014 04:26 (ten years ago) link

how many times do i have to explain that the contents of secret meetings are. a. secret.

smdh

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 22 April 2014 04:38 (ten years ago) link

This is such a minor complaint, but it never fails to drive me batty. A coworker that I otherwise very much like brings a salad in a plastic container every day for lunch, into which he pours his salad dressing. He then proceeds to sit at his desk and shake the shit out of the container for well over a minute. Drives me crazy.

djenter the dragon? (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 22 April 2014 14:47 (ten years ago) link

shake it, shake, shake it
shake it like a 7/11 salad

getting strange ass all around the globe (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 22 April 2014 14:54 (ten years ago) link

first aggravating day in two months, so y'know, no big deal, but....

Hey colleague, if you know from my prior comments that I am clearly not the person that can make this last crucial system update, and you see that I actually have been attempting to get them to do this for weeks, maybe leave me out of your passive-aggressive "guys, what's the holdup" message, unless you want to get one back in return. you wanna know so badly, ask him directly!

getting strange ass all around the globe (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 22 April 2014 18:34 (ten years ago) link

It is really frustrating going from college library to working with recovering alcoholics and drug addicts - even people who have done time in prison.

The people ALL complain to me about "needing job skills" and "needing living skills", while some of the other employees are depressingly computer illiterate! It's not their job to teach computer literacy but it would help me a lot in terms of "moral support" if these people weren't LCD and actually cared about ANY sort of literacy, especially on the Internet.

With this new position, I'm getting a scary view of a world far removed from the extremely bright people who work in a big city. It's depressing!!! I haven't gotten depressed because of work in about twenty-five years!! Every afternoon I retreat to my room in tears because of the depressing condition of people's lives!

I am Sporadicus! (I M Losted), Tuesday, 22 April 2014 20:53 (ten years ago) link

wow, this last project I worked on keeps chasing me. first aggravating week in a while.

A client questioned something in an email one of our colleagues wrote, about one of our procedures (whether we require paperwork for certain types of transactions). It got forwarded to me. I explained why we don't, also noting it wasn't in our contract to do so.

The colleagues that forwarded me the email had a private pow-wow afterwards, and explicably, one of the idiots incorrectly told old our client we DID require paperwork. So I had to call this guy out in a meeting, make him send a 'corrected' email to them, and then have an impromptu meeting to discuss how to fix his mess. All for a project I'M NOT A PART OF ANYMORE.

Overall, just a minor blip in a fairly good week, but sometimes I think if I were to ask these guys what time it was, they'd reply "85 degrees".

getting strange ass all around the globe (Neanderthal), Friday, 25 April 2014 22:18 (ten years ago) link

*inexplicably

getting strange ass all around the globe (Neanderthal), Friday, 25 April 2014 22:18 (ten years ago) link

I'm being repeatedly and stubbornly told that I was given a whole lot of info at a meeting that I can prove I did not attend; these people just refuse to accept it and give me the info again

ornamental cabbage (James Morrison), Thursday, 1 May 2014 01:32 (ten years ago) link

I'm leaving on Tuesday (temporary two month contract), but some over-zealous security bod has already cancelled my electronic door pass. So I can't actually, you know, go anywhere on site. Guess I'm going to be twiddling my thumbs for the last two days then!

an office job is as secure as a Weetabix padlock (snoball), Thursday, 1 May 2014 18:20 (ten years ago) link

we had an emergency come up and I suggested we merely have a chat w/ our legal contact to see what the risk was if we adopted a certain policy so we had some talking points.

dude in meeting (who I normally like) shits on it by saying "I dunno that that is the route we wanna go just yet".

Yeah, can't see any benefit to me writing an email that gives us helpful information.

*sends anyway*

getting strange ass all around the globe (Neanderthal), Thursday, 1 May 2014 18:23 (ten years ago) link

I mean ffs it's not like we're jumping right away to DOING anything - I am merely asking simple questions about our practices, and I do this frequently with Legal (and they encourage such discussion).

getting strange ass all around the globe (Neanderthal), Thursday, 1 May 2014 18:24 (ten years ago) link

As a legal person, I want to commend you for asking first.

carl agatha, Thursday, 1 May 2014 18:33 (ten years ago) link

also: here's your bill.

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 1 May 2014 19:54 (ten years ago) link

people make no effort not to be annoying

conrad, Wednesday, 7 May 2014 09:39 (ten years ago) link

right thread

conrad, Wednesday, 7 May 2014 09:39 (ten years ago) link

right, conrad

pick it up for ripple laser (onimo), Wednesday, 7 May 2014 09:47 (ten years ago) link

Oh good, another morning tea where we all have to bring something. 'Please make something, don't just buy it.'

Fuck this, I have a baby and no time and can't cook and don't want to socialise.

ornamental cabbage (James Morrison), Friday, 16 May 2014 03:44 (nine years ago) link

"i made you a chart of all the fucks i give" (holds up blank sheet of paper)

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 16 May 2014 04:18 (nine years ago) link

Dear boss, please stop talking like Yogi Bear ("Hey, hey, hey!").

back-up duck (doo dah), Friday, 16 May 2014 11:21 (nine years ago) link

Are you sure he's not talking like Fat Albert?

carl agatha, Friday, 16 May 2014 11:36 (nine years ago) link

Oh good, another morning tea where we all have to bring something. 'Please make something, don't just buy it.'

Fuck this, I have a baby and no time and can't cook and don't want to socialise.

Oh man I am super irritated on your behalf. That's so presumptuous and smug.

carl agatha, Friday, 16 May 2014 11:41 (nine years ago) link

Are you sure he's not talking like Fat Albert?

― carl agatha, Friday, May 16, 2014 7:36 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yeah, he has already referenced Boo Boo Bear and picnic baskets.
O_o

back-up duck (doo dah), Friday, 16 May 2014 13:21 (nine years ago) link

two dudes were dressed up like red green for some kind of event yesterday, walked past in the cafeteria

goole, Friday, 16 May 2014 15:37 (nine years ago) link

one day at work on Halloween I was in the midst of training a girl and we were already running behind and I looked up to see a giant Pacman chasing a giant ghost whiz by my room. No way in Hell I was able to focus on training after that.

getting strange ass all around the globe (Neanderthal), Friday, 16 May 2014 21:33 (nine years ago) link

You set a work meeting with me a week ahead of time at 2PM at a worksite I did not otherwise have any reason to go to. I arrived there at 2PM on the appointed day, ready to get down to biz, and saw no sign of you. I asked around and no one had seen you, but I was patient and assumed you were just running a bit late. After a few minutes, I texted to see where you were at. Still patiently waiting. About 15 minutes later you text me:

Hi. I sent you an email this morning, seeing if you still wanted to meet..since I didn't hear, I'm in the middle of working on a project now.

Reaaaaally? You emailed my work email a few hours in advance to check if I was still in and took a lack of reply to mean no? I don't even fucking work during the mornings! I work in fucking TEEN PROGRAMMING. Kind of hard for me to work with teens outside of school while they're in school. I work in the afternoon and evening. I haven't been in to work to check my email. My meeting with you was my first work business of the day.

I text back saying that I'm not available to check my work email during the morning and if you need to change plans on short notice, you need to TEXT me. You reply back:

I communicate via email. You must adjust to change.

What the fuck is this? 1997? No, I don't need to adjust to change, YOU need to adjust to change if you're so hidebound to an inefficient means of communication. It ain't like you don't have my number. And MAYBE, just MAYBE, assume that if we've said we're on, that we're still on unless one of us has said otherwise? And really, just go fuck yourself. Don't dick me around like that. I took time out of my schedule to go all the way out to meet you for nothing.

[/spleen and invective]

The Reverend, Tuesday, 20 May 2014 22:24 (nine years ago) link

you will respect mah communications modalitah

j., Tuesday, 20 May 2014 22:32 (nine years ago) link

since I didn't hear, I'm in the middle of working on a project now.

this is incredible.

bullshit!

goole, Tuesday, 20 May 2014 22:35 (nine years ago) link

I communicate via email. You must adjust to change.

this is also a pretty insane thing to say

goole, Tuesday, 20 May 2014 22:36 (nine years ago) link

yeah wow @ that

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 20 May 2014 22:37 (nine years ago) link

This isn't even an old woman. She's like mayyyybe a couple years older than me?

The Reverend, Tuesday, 20 May 2014 22:44 (nine years ago) link

holy shit

woy wogers (darraghmac), Tuesday, 20 May 2014 22:47 (nine years ago) link

!!! Is she a peer or a boss? If a peer at least you can mentally write her off, maybe? If a boss that you have no choice but to deal with, this would drive me insane with rage. Rude and thoughtless bosses make me completely lose it.

ljubljana, Tuesday, 20 May 2014 23:10 (nine years ago) link

Yeah you dont use that tone with people you have a business relationship with, be it colleague, customer, or ESPECIALLY superior. Christ on a broken crutch.

the Bronski Review (Trayce), Tuesday, 20 May 2014 23:38 (nine years ago) link

Peer, who I need to work with on a specific project as she's the only one with the expertise and availability to pull it off. It's alright now, we've both apologized to each other.

The Reverend, Tuesday, 20 May 2014 23:58 (nine years ago) link

both!

commend yr control tbh

woy wogers (darraghmac), Wednesday, 21 May 2014 00:01 (nine years ago) link

I did get kind of snippy with her after her initial response.

The Reverend, Wednesday, 21 May 2014 00:21 (nine years ago) link

Email is pervasive. Honestly I feel the expectation nowadays is that if there was an email, and you failed to see it, the outcome is entirely your fault. Just check your email, seriously. Nobody will ever understand your reasons for not having read an email, they just expect that you've read everything.

fields of salmon, Wednesday, 21 May 2014 00:29 (nine years ago) link

Eh, I disagree. My work is very email intensive but it is well understood across the company that if something is truly time sensitive or urgent you need to pick a phone and call.

nitro-burning funny car (Moodles), Wednesday, 21 May 2014 00:31 (nine years ago) link

Pick up a phone, that is...

nitro-burning funny car (Moodles), Wednesday, 21 May 2014 00:32 (nine years ago) link

I miss occasional messages until it's pointed out because my filters need work and I get SO MUCH EMAIL at work and I have time-intensive activities that don't involve being an email processing machine.

a strange man (mh), Wednesday, 21 May 2014 00:33 (nine years ago) link

Phone nothing, we have an internal instant message server

a strange man (mh), Wednesday, 21 May 2014 00:33 (nine years ago) link

Sure, but someone may not be able to get IMs either.

nitro-burning funny car (Moodles), Wednesday, 21 May 2014 00:42 (nine years ago) link

If someone can't get instant messages or emails, they can't get a phone call. It's the same device! In fact a phone call is less likely to be received anyway since it's a synchronous, exclusive mode of communication. Multiple email and IM conversations can occur at the same time, making it more efficient in some ways (except when you need to explain something complicated).

fields of salmon, Wednesday, 21 May 2014 00:49 (nine years ago) link

That's all possible but it means that your phone is set up to ring or vibrate for every email and IM that comes in. If I had my phone set up that way and monitored it 24/7, I'd be a basket case. Expecting people to constantly monitor these things outside of work hours is unreasonable. (I get that plenty of businesses still expect this anyway)

nitro-burning funny car (Moodles), Wednesday, 21 May 2014 00:54 (nine years ago) link

I have to be on a work computer to see my work email. I had not been at work. I realize that I could set up my phone to receive work emails when I'm not at work but I do not want to receive work emails when I'm not at work. I only even check my personal email about once a day, usually.

The Reverend, Wednesday, 21 May 2014 01:03 (nine years ago) link

It's the same device!

lol not during my work day it's not

a strange man (mh), Wednesday, 21 May 2014 01:47 (nine years ago) link

Email may be pervasive but if you're last minute changing a booked appointment, you call the damn person. They are likely on route for one thing.

the Bronski Review (Trayce), Wednesday, 21 May 2014 02:06 (nine years ago) link

I worked with a guy who used to ignore all kinds of stuff then turn up at meetings and say

"email is not a form of communication"

pick it up for ripple laser (onimo), Wednesday, 21 May 2014 08:09 (nine years ago) link

If someone can't get instant messages or emails, they can't get a phone call. It's the same device!

This is exactly the kind of arrogant (and incorrect in my case) assumption that led to me spending huge chunks of time waiting for canceled meetings. Not everyone has a smartphone or unlimited data plans.

kinder, Wednesday, 21 May 2014 09:25 (nine years ago) link

It all depends on your work culture/expectations. Where I work, you could and would cancel via email bc the firm issues Blackberries or will set up work email on your personal smart phone and the expectation is that you check it during regular business hours (and beyond). Nobody would text work communications. It doesn't sound like that's the expectation where Rev works and this peer is being tone deaf and unproductively defensive about it.

I'm glad you all made up, though!

carl agatha, Wednesday, 21 May 2014 10:59 (nine years ago) link

carl otm. where I work, we have corporate emails go to our phone, however we have to log into a specific program to get them, and many of us opt not to when we're not in the office as it takes a while to d/l them. But we also have instant message programs too. I would have missed that email message too, in Rev's instance, but could have received a phone call/text etc.

Likewise, if a meeting is already scheduled and agreed to, the default assumption should be that if the other party has not said otherwise, that the meeting is still on. You can certainly reconfirm, but do it the day before, not the morning of. and if you do happen to send an email the morning of and get no reply, the default assumption should be "we are still a go", not "oh ok guess he changed his mind, time to make other plans".

I would have been pretty snippy in that situation myself.

getting strange ass all around the globe (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 21 May 2014 13:49 (nine years ago) link

not to belabor this but the method of comm doesn't really matter here -- if you have a meeting on the books, you can't throw out a message saying 'hey is this on?' and then assume it's off if you don't get a reply. a date's a date.

goole, Wednesday, 21 May 2014 16:34 (nine years ago) link

Yeah, if something is not explicitly cancelled, it's on!

a strange man (mh), Wednesday, 21 May 2014 16:35 (nine years ago) link

otm

getting strange ass all around the globe (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 21 May 2014 16:42 (nine years ago) link

Not always true. Sometimes meetings are scheduled far enough in advance that they get redundant as the date approaches. Eg a meeting designed to answer a particular question.

fields of salmon, Wednesday, 21 May 2014 21:40 (nine years ago) link

Right, but if someone was a mediator of that meeting and didn't know the question was addressed, they're going to show up! This isn't some tree falls in the forest shit. The meeting is a meeting as long as at least one person attends, and if it wasn't clear to all involved that it was off, then you didn't cancel the damn meeting.

a strange man (mh), Wednesday, 21 May 2014 21:52 (nine years ago) link

I have specifically gone to a meeting room to say "hey, we got this figured out, thanks for showing up" because it was realized at the last minute we didn't need it! No need to be a dick.

a strange man (mh), Wednesday, 21 May 2014 21:53 (nine years ago) link

Yeah true. Listen I go to a lot of meetings and listen politely even though the ship has already sailed. I'm just saying if everyone goes "is this still happening?" There's a better chance everyone will go "ah fuck it" and we all get an hour back.

fields of salmon, Wednesday, 21 May 2014 22:00 (nine years ago) link

Yeah, but The Rev's original point was that he has no expectation of checking his work email outside of the work environment and that lady is a jerk for assuming he would

a strange man (mh), Wednesday, 21 May 2014 23:16 (nine years ago) link

like, here's the deal, I have a work email account I only check at work, or from my work laptop. If they gave me a phone, I would check work email on it. I can have my own phone connected to work email, but a) I'm not required to, so why not keep my time my own and b) they require that they have the ability to remote wipe my iPhone via a corporate profile I'd have to load.

So unless someone knows I'm working off hours, which I'd only do if absolutely necessary, assuming I'd know about an email or calendar update removing a meeting that is done outside of my office hours is dickish. And I'm on salary. If I was hourly, fuuuuck having work email to check when I'm not getting paid.

a strange man (mh), Wednesday, 21 May 2014 23:19 (nine years ago) link

You all live in the 1990s don't you.

fields of salmon, Thursday, 22 May 2014 01:43 (nine years ago) link

I'm sorry you're at beck and call for work 24-7, that is very 2014 and a living hell imo

btw "working in 2014" isn't a universal good

a strange man (mh), Thursday, 22 May 2014 02:16 (nine years ago) link

There is no fucking way anyone is ever getting me 24/7 for work. Fuck that shit right off. I dont care how much you pay me.

the Bronski Review (Trayce), Thursday, 22 May 2014 03:38 (nine years ago) link

yeah no idea what salmon is on about here. I have the capability of checking email outside of work...yes. Assuming that I'm reading email outside of work hours? Fuck that. I don't live to work, I need to shut off when work is done, or else I'll never stop. Not to mention, I have a social life where constantly checking email would be rude to the other people I was with.

Recent example similar to Rev's - we had a client visit scheduled for an early Monday. We had final prep discussions the previous Friday. I drove 20 miles to be there at 7:30 am, and one of our directors and a customer service manager showed up as well. I get logged in and am quickly messaged by the director who tells me the client visit is cancelled as they got snowed in. Apparently, one of the OTHER directors got the news on Sunday evening, and emailed us at 8:30 pm, assuming we were all reading our email at that time. He had all of our phone numbers and didn't call a damn one of us. So naturally, we all showed up for nothing. Fuck that.

getting strange ass all around the globe (Neanderthal), Thursday, 22 May 2014 04:59 (nine years ago) link

And I'm on salary. If I was hourly, fuuuuck having work email to check when I'm not getting paid.

― a strange man (mh), Wednesday, May 21, 2014 4:19 PM Bookmark

Hourly here. O/ Anyway, I had my rescheduled meeting with her yesterday and it went fine. She agreed to text me any short-term changes in the future.

The Reverend, Thursday, 22 May 2014 12:03 (nine years ago) link

I think people emailing outside of work hours is actively dysfunctional and unhelpful, if any of my team started doing it on a regular basis I would have a word with them.

Angkor Waht (Neil S), Thursday, 22 May 2014 12:38 (nine years ago) link

fyi if you are hourly your employer legally has to pay you for whatever time you spend checking email, etc., outside of normal work hours.

Life advice: never work for free.

carl agatha, Thursday, 22 May 2014 13:02 (nine years ago) link

i remember when I was hourly and I got asked to do things that would push me OT and would get dumbfounded stares when I'd ask "well this will be on OT, am I authorized to work that?". my guess is so many people let themselves get pimped and work off the clock that they just assume everyone does that!

carl otm

getting strange ass all around the globe (Neanderthal), Thursday, 22 May 2014 13:23 (nine years ago) link

My flip side - that has proven to be fairly harmless, so far - are co-workers who ask me at 5 pm if I got their email, I say no, then I go home and find their email waiting for me on my comcast account. Wat?

More like co-worker who's a bit eccentric and got my home address five years ago when my son was born and she wanted to bring us lunch.

pplains, Thursday, 22 May 2014 13:35 (nine years ago) link

i remember when I was hourly and I got asked to do things that would push me OT and would get dumbfounded stares when I'd ask "well this will be on OT, am I authorized to work that?". my guess is so many people let themselves get pimped and work off the clock that they just assume everyone does that!

I had to do that (and as an assistant manager was RESPONSIBLE for other people doing that) at one of my retail jobs. General Manager "You have to clock out by 1 a.m., but you need to stay and work until everything is done and put away." (which often meant 2 a.m.). Eventually there was a class-action lawsuit over the company's practices and I got like, a $40 check or something.

how's life, Thursday, 22 May 2014 13:42 (nine years ago) link

Life advice: never work for free.

― carl agatha, Thursday, May 22, 2014 8:02 AM (54 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

taking this as unofficial legal advice

a strange man (mh), Thursday, 22 May 2014 13:58 (nine years ago) link

Fuck you. Pay me.

carl agatha, Thursday, 22 May 2014 14:04 (nine years ago) link

lol

how's life, Thursday, 22 May 2014 14:18 (nine years ago) link

I have to be on a work computer to see my work email. I had not been at work. I realize that I could set up my phone to receive work emails when I'm not at work but I do not want to receive work emails when I'm not at work. I only even check my personal email about once a day, usually.

― The Reverend, Wednesday, May 21, 2014 1:03 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

you are the sanest person in the series of posts above.

purposely lend impetus to my HOOS (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Thursday, 22 May 2014 19:17 (nine years ago) link

This isn't even about which device is always on or when your boss gets to have you on the leash, one's just gotta decide how much we let other people's requests of any kind run the show. And I run my fuckin show.

purposely lend impetus to my HOOS (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Thursday, 22 May 2014 19:22 (nine years ago) link

cause in a sense imo fields of salmon is 100% otm--the requests never stop coming. that puts the onus on us to decide when we're not gonna look at them and we're gonna hang out with people who don't have to pay us to do it instead.

purposely lend impetus to my HOOS (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Thursday, 22 May 2014 19:26 (nine years ago) link

idk

purposely lend impetus to my HOOS (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Thursday, 22 May 2014 19:29 (nine years ago) link

This is the sort of stuff that gives work-at-home freelancers the permanent eye twitch.

*twitch*

oh, if you're a freelancer, you must just respond to all communication forms at all times

a strange man (mh), Thursday, 22 May 2014 19:40 (nine years ago) link

*gets out semaphore flags*

an office job is as secure as a Weetabix padlock (snoball), Thursday, 22 May 2014 19:43 (nine years ago) link

*gets out pencil and pad*

"...this...isn't...what...weaaanted at all"

purposely lend impetus to my HOOS (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Thursday, 22 May 2014 19:46 (nine years ago) link

"put.... a... landlord... hat... on... the... land... lord"

carl agatha, Thursday, 22 May 2014 19:53 (nine years ago) link

this is sort of mildly related

I'm an hourly employee, I only answer email within work hours when I'm AT work. I don't work remotely, I don't have smartphone sync to my email, none of that. It's not expected.

A few years back we took an account on a 3 day winery trip. 5 ppl from the account went on the trip. All of them were workaholics, you'd get emails with send times of like 4am Chicago time, one dude admitted to sleeping in his office, total hardcore crazytown.

We're on the bus on the freeway setting off on our 3 day whatever, and they're all on laptops or blackberries. one of the account guys next to me says, 'So, if something comes up [related to my job] who should I contact?' And I kinda looked at him and said 'Um. Me? But I'm not connected to work so I'll deal with it when we get back.'

He looked so stricken and confused, it was kind of alarming. I felt bad at first, like hmm maybe I should be working remotely.

but within 24hrs they were all untethered and had their laptops away and were kicking up their heels so it ended up working out ok.

I sometimes feel like I work in Mayberry, but honestly I kinda like it. Compartmentalization of yr job is key, at least for me. I don't want it come home with me or anywhere else. Work is at work.

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 22 May 2014 20:05 (nine years ago) link

yes, absolutely. a colleague of mine decided to change jobs within our company because she got negative feedback for 'only working 6 hours on a Sunday' (Sundays are off days for all employees).

I get a little tired of the people that act like working 60-70 hrs is a badge of honor. fuck you - part of my goal is figuring out how to do in 50 what it used to take me 60 to do. if I'm working 60-70 hrs it means I either agreed to too much or that I'm not good at my job.

getting strange ass all around the globe (Neanderthal), Thursday, 22 May 2014 20:52 (nine years ago) link

i feel like the biggest curmudgeon but this dude who now sits on the other side me is constantly singing or humming all day and it drives me nuts. i seriously hate open floor plans

diamonddave85‌ (diamonddave85), Thursday, 22 May 2014 20:56 (nine years ago) link

I do that but I'm like nat king Cole Jr so its a privilege for em

I'm public sector internal affairs to an internal service I don't have to check my emails ever and my phone hasn't rung in 3 months. recommended.

the only thing worse than being tweeted about (darraghmac), Thursday, 22 May 2014 21:04 (nine years ago) link

I get a little tired of the people that act like working 60-70 hrs is a badge of honor. fuck you - part of my goal is figuring out how to do in 50 what it used to take me 60 to do. if I'm working 60-70 hrs it means I either agreed to too much or that I'm not good at my job.

― getting strange ass all around the globe (Neanderthal), Thursday, May 22, 2014 8:52 PM (34 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

booming

purposely lend impetus to my HOOS (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Thursday, 22 May 2014 21:28 (nine years ago) link

Life advice: never work for free.

Yeah. My bf's been working back an extra 2-4 hours a night every other week lately and I'm like "well, they pay you overtime at least, right?"... nope.

All I can think is: ok if its a one off, lets all pull together big project? Yeah pull a few late nighters, git r done. If it is just assumed you'll work 2-5 more hours a night than you're paid for as a matter of course - and if you get constantly sniped at for going home on time at 5pm to pick up yr fucking kids from daycare - that is a job not worth having.

And they told him they were family friendly! cocksuckers.

the Bronski Review (Trayce), Friday, 23 May 2014 02:13 (nine years ago) link

Yeah,that's total bullshit. If I'm not getting paid, fuck it, I'm going home.

ornamental cabbage (James Morrison), Friday, 23 May 2014 02:49 (nine years ago) link

I'm kind of in a weird position that I'm hourly but I have a lot of independence to work on and am expected to take leadership of my own projects (i.e. I should really be salary but what am I gonna do about it), and I basically do what work needs to be done and send my boss a tally of my hours at the end of the pay period. Like I'm the point person on three projects right now and I spend a lot of time working on my own to make sure these things happen, and except for the scheduled classes I teach, I basically put in work as needed.

The Reverend, Friday, 23 May 2014 03:59 (nine years ago) link

(ftr, my boss who is pretty much cool except for his decided tendency to overexplain, has never disputed my timesheet)

The Reverend, Friday, 23 May 2014 04:01 (nine years ago) link

I'll answer work emails at any point between 6am and midnight but am usually very strict about leaving the office on the dot of 4:30. I'd rather do bits and pieces when I need to than commit to an extra hour in the office.

Yuri Bashment (ShariVari), Friday, 23 May 2014 05:21 (nine years ago) link

i had a coworker who would program outlook to send emails in the middle of the night so he was always working. he also constantly referred to "staying up until 4AM negotiating with the Chinese." he was lame.

eh mec, elle est ou ma caisse? (ytth), Friday, 23 May 2014 06:47 (nine years ago) link

"Gotta go. London. It's 7 AM in the Old Empire. "

how's life, Friday, 23 May 2014 11:01 (nine years ago) link

i made it very clear to the head of my dept two years ago that I work to live and not vice versa, and they tend to respect that. I heard people in other depts talk about working a 100 hour week and we're talking someone with a spouse and kids and I'm like wtf, no way.

when the time calls for it, I'll work whatever needs to be worked, but that should be only when a project is going live, not cos you had a hankerin' to know somethin at 11 pm.

getting strange ass all around the globe (Neanderthal), Friday, 23 May 2014 15:59 (nine years ago) link

yesterday a woman in the next row of cubicles (fond of the word 'fuck', best known for spending like 20 minutes on the phone going *off* on a ups operator about her missing package a while back) was holding forth on proper wedding etiquette.

in her view, wedding guests must offer gifts worth the expected value of the food they consume. she's been married for years but still has a list of people who did not fulfill this obligation at her own wedding.

also lol she has written a (73-page) book about wiccan spells and hexes to cast on cheating exes? guess those wedding guests are fuc-ed

mookieproof, Wednesday, 28 May 2014 23:49 (nine years ago) link

whoa

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 28 May 2014 23:54 (nine years ago) link

that's like level-up crazytown

awesome

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 28 May 2014 23:54 (nine years ago) link

imagine how long that took to

spell check

dn/ac (darraghmac), Wednesday, 28 May 2014 23:58 (nine years ago) link

fp u

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 29 May 2014 01:18 (nine years ago) link

A man with wife and kids who works 100 hrs a week basically doesnt want the spouse and kid, imho.

the Bronski Review (Trayce), Thursday, 29 May 2014 04:41 (nine years ago) link

Absolutely otm. My wife and I have each managed to get our work days down to 3 per week and I'm absolutely fine with that-- not so much money but much more time for LIFE not fucking work.

ornamental cabbage (James Morrison), Friday, 30 May 2014 00:19 (nine years ago) link

how is this accomplished?

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 30 May 2014 04:20 (nine years ago) link

we both work for different health-related NGOs where the pay is poor but we can salary sacrifice to our mortgage and where they're reasonably flexible about home/life balance

ornamental cabbage (James Morrison), Friday, 30 May 2014 05:39 (nine years ago) link

Christ thats exactly what my bf needs. He's trying to raise 2 boys on a FT job and he's really struggling and they dont give a shit and get snippy at him for leaving at 5pm (like, when you're meant to).

the Bronski Review (Trayce), Friday, 30 May 2014 06:06 (nine years ago) link

I hate companies that fetishize how long you work. I love my current job cos I log out when I'm done. one of my previous jobs, they required us to work 45 hours a week (we were salaried), regardless of our work load...stating that 'it has been proven that people who work longer complete more work'. I argued about how stupid this was since I was one of the more productive members of the team (actually got an award for completing the most work one year), and felt that it was silly to ask me to spend an extra hour each day if my work was done early, which it often was. In the end, most folks just continued doing the same amount of work, but just worked more slowly. Or lied on their timecards.

silver lining was the guy in charge of that dept later got laid off, due to the division being dissolved largely because of his poor decision-making.

getting strange ass all around the globe (Neanderthal), Friday, 30 May 2014 12:58 (nine years ago) link

In a previous job I had people were all about being seen to stay late, regardless of how much actual work they had on. Life's too short.

gyac, Friday, 30 May 2014 13:01 (nine years ago) link

yeah seriously. one of my favorite managers years back was a hardass but also very supportive and she used to get on me for working too late. she said "I used to work 80 hour weeks for a bank and got divorced because of it - don't do that to yourself!"

getting strange ass all around the globe (Neanderthal), Friday, 30 May 2014 13:13 (nine years ago) link

I used to work for a tech company in the early 00s and yes, being seen staying late was a key component of success. Also not taking any of your vacation time. I left when my work was done and took vacations so I got let go in the second round of layoffs (the person on my team who took the most vacation time was let go in the first round. She also happened to be the most senior and experienced and the only black woman so make of that what you will).

My job now is pretty great. Flexible hours, I can work from home, the focus is totally all about getting your work done and not putting in hours for the sake of putting in hours. The pay is fine, not great, but I'm eligible for bonuses that are actually tied into how many cases I handle compared to how many hours I bill (the higher the first number and the lower the second, the better my bonus) so doing more in less time is built into the system.

I still have some ideological discomfort with the work I do, and I still haven't quite let go of the image of myself as this badass crusader for justice, but this work/life balance thing is pretty fantastic.

carl agatha, Friday, 30 May 2014 13:22 (nine years ago) link

Oh my point was that I was contacted by a recruiter about a more traditional associate position and my eyes turned into dollar signs and I was like sure, submit my resume. When she told me they were looking for someone with more traditional employee benefits experience (drafting pension plans as opposed to claims litigation), I was like OH THANK GOD. As Jeff put it, the money would be nice but the hours would be such that we'd have to hire a nanny, a housekeeper, and a chef to keep any semblance of sanity in our home. And I'd never get to see my daughter, which would more or less ruin my life. So in conclusion I will be paying off my student loans until I'm in my 80s.

carl agatha, Friday, 30 May 2014 13:26 (nine years ago) link

does anyone work for a company with "unlimited" vacation time? it's common among startups who like to offer OMG AMAZING benefits, but it seems like it would be terrible in practice. fab offers it, but i can just imagine how well it would go over to tell your supervisor that you have a week vacation planned right after jason goldberg sends you out his fifth "WHY ARE YOU HERE?!" email of the week to every employee.

eh mec, elle est ou ma caisse? (ytth), Saturday, 31 May 2014 21:07 (nine years ago) link

ya its a total scam

lag∞n, Saturday, 31 May 2014 22:42 (nine years ago) link

listening to a ten-minute conversation going "I wonder if our organisation has web branding guidelines? I don't think it does. What would be in them anyway?", making 3 attempts to say "it does, they're on the intranet, but they don't contain the thing you're looking for" (I looked at them yesterday), but not being able to get more than a couple of words out without being talked over with another stream of "ooh I don't know. I wonder? ooooh"

too tired for this. gave up.

the ghosts of dead pom-bears (a passing spacecadet), Thursday, 12 June 2014 08:58 (nine years ago) link

prolix boss is prolix

arid banter (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 12 June 2014 09:35 (nine years ago) link

I am in work politics hell. if I was interested in and/or better at this stuff I might be paid at the level of the stuff I'm doing, as opposed to constantly training, explaining and subsequently online complaining about the wittering mediocrities of professional professionals hopping ahead of me.

braying ass man is prob running a fuckin dept by now, idk idk

dn/ac (darraghmac), Thursday, 12 June 2014 09:41 (nine years ago) link

i'm pretty sure that the boss cadre recognises its own and naturally sucks them into the fold

arid banter (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 12 June 2014 09:44 (nine years ago) link

oh I'm just fine with that, it keeps them away from the raw data and the front line. just fuckin pay me and ensure that my guaranteed blithe dismissal of their wishes is enshrined in the working conditions

dn/ac (darraghmac), Thursday, 12 June 2014 09:48 (nine years ago) link

i think they have this misguided yen to be liked

arid banter (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 12 June 2014 09:49 (nine years ago) link

I will sign a contract to like them a good deal more when my conditions are met

dn/ac (darraghmac), Thursday, 12 June 2014 09:51 (nine years ago) link

shhh, you mustn't mention money, they think we're here for the sheer love of it

arid banter (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 12 June 2014 09:52 (nine years ago) link

at civil service wages I'd surmise the same fucking thing bytimes

dn/ac (darraghmac), Thursday, 12 June 2014 10:47 (nine years ago) link

well the good news is that as a civil servant I can tell them to go fuck themselves without any retribution more serious than them moving me to a different team.

so I did.

dn/ac (darraghmac), Thursday, 12 June 2014 16:37 (nine years ago) link

DA-RRAGH
DA-RRAGH
DA-RRAGH

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 12 June 2014 17:02 (nine years ago) link

(joins in chant)

my post upthread was confusingly poorly written btw but the short version is that I work with people with one variety of poor social skills and I have the other variety of poor social skills and both groups prob despise each other.

or everyone just despises everyone. that works too.

the ghosts of dead pom-bears (a passing spacecadet), Thursday, 12 June 2014 18:22 (nine years ago) link

soz my comment was about my work not yours, don't think i was clear

slightly awed by darragh, also tell me if you have any vacancies come up

arid banter (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 12 June 2014 18:27 (nine years ago) link

he's not 'stupid' and I like the guy, but annoyed when exchanges like these happen:

Leader: Hey Neanderthal, is your team implementing <thing>?
Me: Hmm, not sure as I didn't lead that discussion but I will ask the folks that did.

*asks*

Tech person: No, you all opted not to implement <thing> back in Dec but I'm not sure why, let's ask Person in Charge.
Person in Charge: Wait, what? We're not implementing <thing>? I didn't know that! Neanderthal, can you talk to <people> about whether we can get this done?

sooo....now I'm in charge of this simply cos I asked you a question and you don't keep good notes?

Neanderthal, Thursday, 12 June 2014 20:20 (nine years ago) link

NV I assumed you were but it was true in my case too!

my boss is an OK guy but does talk over people and often cuts me off abruptly with the assumption that I've missing a totally obvious point (sometimes it's true, but sometimes I have thought about things for more than 3 seconds and would like to explain further)

my other coworker is OK in small doses but taaaalks and never listens. also stands right beside/behind my chair, even leans on the back (I hate that!), to tell me something and does not take the hint from the fact that I am continuing to write an email that maybe I would rather not be talked at right now. yes, I said she, in case anyone is chalking this one up for any clusterfucks

when the two of them talk to each other, especially when they throw in the pretence of wanting my input while not actually letting me give it, I go mad

still I have a new boss starting next week (though not becoming my boss for another month or so when she's settled in) so someone new to complain about soon eh

the ghosts of dead pom-bears (a passing spacecadet), Thursday, 12 June 2014 20:48 (nine years ago) link

they've found their way to offering me a more relevant role in re my college course and for developing my CV, the fuckwits. only reacting to an explosive reaction, such lazy management.

gonna call the CEO a cunt on Monday, that should be worth at least a company car?

dn/ac (darraghmac), Thursday, 12 June 2014 23:20 (nine years ago) link

this co-worker of mine scraping her bowl of muesli defiantly, o u made a joek, here let me reward you with stony silence

wenus villiams (qiqing), Wednesday, 25 June 2014 23:50 (nine years ago) link

dude who evidently drinks like six cups of coffee a day and somehow compelled to vocalize every thought that occurs to him, all of which are either horribly boring or so disjointed that they go on long after everyone totally gets it already

i feel bad because i don't think he's (exactly) an attention-mongering dramatist -- he's just a dork. but damn

mookieproof, Thursday, 26 June 2014 00:19 (nine years ago) link

because my line manager doesn't really believe i'm ill - because i took a lot of sick leave being all depressed and stuff - and because i've got lots that needs doing this week i'm sat in work with vertigo trying to have sensible communications with people while the room carousels round my head

clockpuncher (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 26 June 2014 12:38 (nine years ago) link

:(

leave the web boys alone (darraghmac), Thursday, 26 June 2014 12:54 (nine years ago) link

ach, grim reality of work innit?

clockpuncher (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 26 June 2014 12:55 (nine years ago) link

That's awful.

carl agatha, Thursday, 26 June 2014 13:03 (nine years ago) link

the trick is nobody verbalizes what they're thinking

clockpuncher (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 26 June 2014 13:09 (nine years ago) link

Our offices will close at 1:00 pm Thursday for the July 4th holiday weekend. Should your work load allow, please feel free to get an early start to your weekend.

i didn't really mind the fact that i'll be working full days both thursday and friday until this came out

mookieproof, Thursday, 3 July 2014 14:12 (nine years ago) link

Feeling you there.

carl agatha, Thursday, 3 July 2014 14:14 (nine years ago) link

Should your work load allow,

More like "should the load that's management allows..."

pplains, Thursday, 3 July 2014 18:41 (nine years ago) link

I'm still kind of really upset abt the idea of salaried workers being expected to work OT like mad and never take vacation and being penalized for taking vacation

DERE is no DERE DERE (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 9 July 2014 12:16 (nine years ago) link

Vacation time is the thing I am most excited about earning in life like having just started FT work!!! And getting to travel and go on trips!!

DERE is no DERE DERE (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 9 July 2014 12:17 (nine years ago) link

I genuinely like my co-workers. I've never had this experience before. It's . . . odd.

Airwrecka Bliptrap Blapmantis (ENBB), Wednesday, 9 July 2014 12:35 (nine years ago) link

I consider it pretty unprofessional to have paid vacation time that you do not take.

odd proggy geezer (Moodles), Wednesday, 9 July 2014 14:10 (nine years ago) link

I have been working as a consultant at another company for the past few months and even though they offered me a job with a much better package than I'm on (and bearing in mind I'm looking for a new job) but I couldn't in all conscience take it because it would mean sharing an office with... let's call her Heather. Because that's her name.

Heather comes in late every day, saying she hasn't woken up yet, despite the fact she gets up earlier than any of the rest of us and just spends 2-3 hours faffing around in the house.
Because she comes in late she has to leave late. Because she is leaving late, she has a late lunch at home which is dry Ryvita. She has dry Ryvita because she has a fat-free yoghurt at about 12 and she has to watch the calories. She has a yoghurt at about 12 because she couldn't possibly wait until when she goes home for lunch to have something to eat.
She clears her throat (ah-hem) every 90 seconds or so and talks through what she's doing as she types. She laughs at the end of every sentence but she never actually finishes sentences, just lets them tail of into the ether and usually with a preposition (normally 'so...').
Social phone calls usually start about half an hour after she gets into work (her mother at least twice a day) and she just blatantly makes gossip up. (e.g. a guy was leaving to start his own bike parts business, we all sort of knew about it but no big deal. Heather started telling everybody he'd been headhunted for another company, then when speaking to him told him we'd all been saying that, then told her friend he'd become a millionaire through his website.)

But all of these are just things which should have been stopped by a boss, unlike:

Every banana contains 8 tablespoons of refined sugar. (She confirmed she really does mean refined sugar yesterday.)
Lufthansa decide whether they land at Terminal 1 or 2 of Heathrow in the air on their way.
Bees put the sap on trees whose pollen doesn't make nice tasting honey.
Her car insurance has reduced this year because she cleans her house regularly.
And today's epic, which made me realize I had to type this - she thinks Yahoo and Google are ENTIRELY DIFFERENT INTERNETS.

Rabona not glue (aldo), Thursday, 10 July 2014 09:29 (nine years ago) link

Those examples are just from yesterday and today btw

Rabona not glue (aldo), Thursday, 10 July 2014 09:34 (nine years ago) link

And she's only been in for an hour today

Rabona not glue (aldo), Thursday, 10 July 2014 09:34 (nine years ago) link

dot com yahoo is the secret German internet apparently.

I'm almost tempted to liveblog everything she says but I'd never stop typing.

Rabona not glue (aldo), Thursday, 10 July 2014 09:39 (nine years ago) link

How has this person been allowed to steal oxygen for this long without someone more intelligent intervening to make the blethering stop?

leave the web alone boys (suzy), Thursday, 10 July 2014 09:41 (nine years ago) link

She's just seen Paul with a tan (he's been on holiday). She didn't think it was possible for him to get a tan, because his skin's not made for the sun. Because he's from Manchester, so genetics or something so...

Rabona not glue (aldo), Thursday, 10 July 2014 10:30 (nine years ago) link

She doesn't understand why Lufthansa aren't fixing their internet because she needs to book a flight. She is now typing random words into the search bar to see whether their internets are up, even though she doesn't need them.

Rabona not glue (aldo), Thursday, 10 July 2014 10:32 (nine years ago) link

you'd srsly turn down a job because of amazing free entertainment

cpt navajo (darraghmac), Thursday, 10 July 2014 10:35 (nine years ago) link

A bird has crapped on her car (which she cleaned before it went in for a valeting so the garage didn't think she was dirty) and "there was blackcurrant in it. That's just stupid. Who puts Ribena in a bird's drinking bowl?"

Rabona not glue (aldo), Thursday, 10 July 2014 10:38 (nine years ago) link

She is using someone else's computer because of the internet problems. It's a different keyboard (actually it isn't, it's just not hers) so she is mistyping because all the keys are in different places. And it's got a slow mouse, which stops her from clicking through.

Rabona not glue (aldo), Thursday, 10 July 2014 10:39 (nine years ago) link

She's trying to book flights. "There's a 1:30 that gets in at 1520. 12 hours is an awful long time to go to Holland, I suppose the flight must be via somewhere so..."

Rabona not glue (aldo), Thursday, 10 July 2014 10:44 (nine years ago) link

im scared to ask how she knew the birdcrap has blackcurrant in it...

the Bronski Review (Trayce), Thursday, 10 July 2014 11:06 (nine years ago) link

either you're making this up or she's faking it, aldo, because nobody could be this stupid and have figured out how to breathe

a biscuit/donut hybrid called “bisnuts” (stevie), Thursday, 10 July 2014 11:34 (nine years ago) link

None of the potential answers would surprise me.

I've been out in another meeting and come back in to find her telling someone that soya milk makes you blind. "Think about it, when you see blind people they have that milky look over their eyes. There you go."

Rabona not glue (aldo), Thursday, 10 July 2014 11:36 (nine years ago) link

Seriously, I have been sitting in this three days a week since the end of March going out of my mind.

Rabona not glue (aldo), Thursday, 10 July 2014 11:36 (nine years ago) link

I'm beginning to believe

cpt navajo (darraghmac), Thursday, 10 July 2014 11:40 (nine years ago) link

are you sure her name isn't huother

cpt navajo (darraghmac), Thursday, 10 July 2014 11:40 (nine years ago) link

I will be paying off my student loans until I'm in my 80s.

― carl agatha, Friday, May 30, 2014 8:26 AM (1 month ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

You'll actually be 60 years old. Final payment will be in September 2033. Less than 20 years!

Jeff, Thursday, 10 July 2014 11:41 (nine years ago) link

I'll admit the stupidity density this week has been off the scale.

Rabona not glue (aldo), Thursday, 10 July 2014 11:42 (nine years ago) link

hey I probably run a s/d report fwiw

cpt navajo (darraghmac), Thursday, 10 July 2014 11:43 (nine years ago) link

What does she do well that keeps her employed?

DERE is no DERE DERE (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 10 July 2014 12:59 (nine years ago) link

Nothing. She books bits of travel and deals with couriers. She doesn't even do that well, she is currently getting legal threats from DHL over an alleged failed delivery that she is trying to deal with herself by calling him a silly little man rather than, you know, give it to a legal team.

Rabona not glue (aldo), Thursday, 10 July 2014 13:24 (nine years ago) link

so - she's not going to be working there much longer.

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 10 July 2014 14:00 (nine years ago) link

She's been there 15 years, she'll survive this.

Rabona not glue (aldo), Thursday, 10 July 2014 14:00 (nine years ago) link

How is she related to the boss? Was her mother the one who took those photos of him?

pplains, Thursday, 10 July 2014 14:24 (nine years ago) link

Unbelievably, neither. She's also just revealed she's always had a better pay rise than everybody else.

Rabona not glue (aldo), Thursday, 10 July 2014 14:26 (nine years ago) link

Aldo, she's beginning to sound very annoying.

pplains, Thursday, 10 July 2014 14:35 (nine years ago) link

DYA THINK?

Rabona not glue (aldo), Thursday, 10 July 2014 14:35 (nine years ago) link

I've been out in another meeting and come back in to find her telling someone that soya milk makes you blind. "Think about it, when you see blind people they have that milky look over their eyes. There you go."

― Rabona not glue (aldo), Thursday, July 10, 2014 7:36 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Karla Pilkington?

Evan, Thursday, 10 July 2014 15:30 (nine years ago) link

I think this woman lives in a world that I want to live in. Sign me up.

how's life, Thursday, 10 July 2014 15:33 (nine years ago) link

Aldo, I'd read that liveblog, though I feel for your pain

ornamental cabbage (James Morrison), Friday, 11 July 2014 00:57 (nine years ago) link

"there was blackcurrant in it. That's just stupid. Who puts Ribena in a bird's drinking bowl?"

This is good value.

fields of salmon, Friday, 11 July 2014 02:39 (nine years ago) link

Can we start a donations page for Aldo to take this job and maintain a thread about her?

boney tassel (sic), Friday, 11 July 2014 02:43 (nine years ago) link

Does she maybe just think she's hilarious, and its coming across as thick instead?

the Bronski Review (Trayce), Friday, 11 July 2014 05:06 (nine years ago) link

I did think that to start with, but when she's trying to be funny she starts her sentence with "I've got a joke."

Rabona not glue (aldo), Friday, 11 July 2014 05:58 (nine years ago) link

two weeks pass...

my former boss now works in sales (lol demotion, it's still amusing to me seeing her in a cublicle)

she is a MORON. I didn't realize it fully until she stopped being my boss, but she's one of those people where it's like, 'what do you actually DO, that you don't have someone do for you'. literally everything that crosses her desk she will farm off to someone else to fix/take care of/complete for her. I am almost 100% sure there is nothing inside her skull except for lint and a few moths.

2 months ago I designed a flyer for her. Based on specs that came from her.
Today she emails me and tells me that the flyer is wrong and it needs to be changed, and can I do that.
I say yes, what exactly is wrong in the flyer. (Meanwhile wondering why it took 2 months for this new information to come to light)

It took FOUR emails for her to clarify that only a portion of the flyer was incorrect. But I still couldn't get a clear bead on what exactly in the flyer was wrong. I checked her original specs for the flyer, and they matched what was printed...so obviously her info was wrong to begin with. yay.

So she says, I'm not kidding, "I don't know exactly what is wrong in the flyer. Can you just go through the list (attached) and compare it to the flyer and make the changes? That would be great if you could do that, thanks! *smiley face*"

I drafted an all caps eat shit and die version of my reply, then a politely go fuck yourself version, then a Benjamin Sisco to Picard you killed my family but I never said fuck you version

eventually I realized that I couldn't actually say what I wanted to say and wrote back that I was up to my neck with a project I'm currently working on (100% true) and that if she could identify the changes she needed made, I'd be happy to make them for her.

Her reply: you can do it when your project is done! *smiley face*

I AM GOING TO MURDER HER

no shit I will be seeking permission from my boss on Monday to point the giant flamethrower of NO at her.
I doubt I'll get it but omg I so want to be able to make my case.

SHE IS THE WORST

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 26 July 2014 01:51 (nine years ago) link

this is totes a face to face resolvable situation. just have her over and look her in the eye and look into her soul and you know its the thing. email makes people squirrely and cant be used for effective talk.

ledriver, Saturday, 26 July 2014 03:36 (nine years ago) link

i so hope your boss says YES TORCH HER

a biscuit/donut hybrid called “bisnuts” (stevie), Saturday, 26 July 2014 09:26 (nine years ago) link

I drafted an all caps eat shit and die version of my reply, then a politely go fuck yourself version, then a Benjamin Sisco to Picard you killed my family but I never said fuck you version

hah

she sounds terrible

the ghosts of dead pom-bears (a passing spacecadet), Saturday, 26 July 2014 13:01 (nine years ago) link

oh God oh God, one of my fellow students does this. Instead of smiley faces she deploys (e.g.) 'Thank you so much!!! Have a great weekend!!!'

ljubljana, Saturday, 26 July 2014 15:35 (nine years ago) link

so they rolled out a new version of a program this week without properly testing it, and naturally it made a crucial function for our cs reps no longer work. the fix they gave us didn't work, and finally yesterday they admitted to us that they broke it but felt confident that they would have it fixed in the September release.

that lasted all of one hour until the pitchforked mob got them to agree to, i dunno, fixing it next week.

Neanderthal, Saturday, 26 July 2014 15:36 (nine years ago) link

I am dealing with someone who wants to be a professional photographer and doesn't understand why shooting at 640 x 480 is bad. "Isn't there something you can do with those images?"

rockist popist papist (WilliamC), Tuesday, 29 July 2014 01:48 (nine years ago) link

yeesh

SEEMS TO ME (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 29 July 2014 01:56 (nine years ago) link

My deepest sympathies.

I just went through a print guy who downloaded smaller photos from the internet, blew them up for the magazine and then sent them back to me for online publishing -- still all blown up.

In other words, he took a 300px x 400px mugshot, blew it up to 720x960 or whatever to make a square-inch mug in the book and then sent it to me still all blurry and pixelated when I could've used the original art he downloaded in the first place.

pplains, Tuesday, 29 July 2014 13:23 (nine years ago) link

Veg is your ex-boss defenestrated yet

boney tassel (sic), Tuesday, 29 July 2014 13:37 (nine years ago) link

how do you even shoot at 640x480???

DERE is no DERE DERE (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 29 July 2014 14:54 (nine years ago) link

I just went through a print guy who downloaded smaller photos from the internet, blew them up for the magazine and then sent them back to me for online publishing -- still all blown up.

haha, I think I've worked with that guy or his cousin.

I think this photographer understands she has a learning curve to climb, because it took three weeks of me asking before she would admit that she shoots at 640x480. I mentioned the name of the best show/livestock photographer in California and the fact that she sends me 2100 x 1500 images -- maybe she'll get the message.

xp lol -- my first digital camera would shoot at that resolution, but I've never checked to see how low our current camera will go.

rockist popist papist (WilliamC), Tuesday, 29 July 2014 15:00 (nine years ago) link

xpost lol not yet sic, getting close

SEEMS TO ME (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 29 July 2014 16:13 (nine years ago) link

tryin to explain to someone that, ironically enough, the fact that they haven't bothered to learn how to do any of the complicated daily reports is the very reason they'll be doing them alone all the rest of the week while everyone else gets to go on the type of training that would only be wasted on eh lazing whingers. how to phrase, how to phrase.

Serious Men raised by the Issues Movement (darraghmac), Tuesday, 29 July 2014 16:19 (nine years ago) link

how do you even shoot at 640x480???

gonna offer this guy a super-sweet deal on a Fujifilm camera

it's a little bulky, only has drivers for Windows 3.1 and 95, and the battery compartment cover fell off 15 years ago, but apart from that it's perfect for his needs

the ghosts of dead pom-bears (a passing spacecadet), Tuesday, 29 July 2014 16:35 (nine years ago) link

how to phrase, how to phrase

I believe the phrase you are searching for is "get your shit together"

odd proggy geezer (Moodles), Tuesday, 29 July 2014 17:56 (nine years ago) link

it's not, tbh, because i dont give two fucks if their shit is together or not rly, it wasn't that type of conversation

Serious Men raised by the Issues Movement (darraghmac), Tuesday, 29 July 2014 18:11 (nine years ago) link

wait a minute he's been at soton 6 years?!

Serious Men raised by the Issues Movement (darraghmac), Tuesday, 29 July 2014 18:14 (nine years ago) link

Dude today asked how he could reset a customer's password if he didn't know his password.

Neanderthal, Tuesday, 29 July 2014 23:55 (nine years ago) link

I can do that?

pplains, Wednesday, 30 July 2014 00:03 (nine years ago) link

currently hiding round the corner from a cafe because seen dreadful colleague go in there. this is happening.

(details of dreadfulness include getting non-directionally angry to deflect from things that are his responsibility, claims he's naturally good at languages if he put in the effort, one-upmanship regarding the great weariness he feels at having to travel constantly despite his transparent glee at the whole process, constantly checking emails in meetings then when he looks up blankly at a question that he needs to answer says "sorry I was multi-tasking")

right, that shd be enough time.

Fizzles, Wednesday, 30 July 2014 07:09 (nine years ago) link

Second last day of Heather before I finish here!

I have more or less tuned her out - she could be telling me the building was on fire and I'd probably burn tbh - but a couple of notable things today:

20 minutes commenting on how bad a woman from upstairs looked in a lab coat, before saying that the woman's real problem was working in an office full of women and how that had turned her into a bitch, and that was why she (Heather) was glad she worked in an office full of men because it stopped her from even picking the slightest fault in anything.

Telling a story about something that happened yesterday which she thought was funny and laughed at longer and louder than anyone else at the time (which was also something bitchy involving a different woman). "But you didn't see what happened Heather?" "Yes, but everyone else was laughing so I thought I would too."

Spent ages on the phone to a hotel making a booking for four people in a couple of weeks time. Then read out the names to then and gave them 5 names. Which was one more than the number of rooms they had. Making it their fault, obviously. "You wouldn't believe something as little as that could make a difference, could you. I just don't see why they couldn't have done what I asked."

I brought in a cake yesterday as it was my last week. About 3/4 of it went yesterday, and when the cleaners came in they moved it from the table to the chair next to it. Someone was going to have another bit today, and I made a comment about the cleaners moving it about (as I had also noticed the tin was the wrong way up). "How did you know it had been on the floor?" said Heather, and it turned out the cleaners had knocked it over and out of the tin last night when Heather was the only one left in the office. Another co-worker came in and Heather then insisted he have a bit of cake. I couldn't keep the information from him, so told him about the cleaner. A third chap then asked whether "the people who knew" would have let him eat it without telling him. I pointed out that was a very diplomatic way of referring to Heather, since she was the only one that knew, which offended her. She then said she wouldn't have let him without telling him, so I pointed out that she was encouraging worker #2 to eat it therefore she obviously preferred worker #2 to worker #3, and was it that she liked one more or that she didn't like worker #3 at all. This offended her too (but fuck it, I won't see her again after tomorrow).

and she's crying in a stairwell in Devon (aldo), Wednesday, 30 July 2014 14:37 (nine years ago) link

but fuck it, I won't see her again after tomorrow

I finished at a job last week, and I very nearly told the guy with crucifying BO (it actually made my eyes water to be withing two metres of him) to take a shower and use deodorant. But I'm English so I didn't.

I only listen to Vantablack Metal (snoball), Wednesday, 30 July 2014 14:47 (nine years ago) link

tbf that would be a hard conversation for an American to have with a coworker, too.

At my last job, there were a couple of really smelly people, including one dude who on his worst days would come in wearing dirty clothes that smelled like they had been balled up wet in a dark corner of a dank basement with an overlay of that rotten meat smell that some really heavy smokers give off. Anyway, the people who had to work in a small, windowless space with him handled it by hanging air fresheners around his desk when he was at lunch. :(

carl agatha, Wednesday, 30 July 2014 14:55 (nine years ago) link

He was a nice dude, and really funny. He just had some issues with self care and frankly, someone in a position of authority should have stepped in and told him he needed to wear clean clothes to work but that would have required someone in a position of authority to act like they were in a position of authority and that wouldn't happen.

Oh man there was another coworker there, also very nice, but just disgusting with horrible BO and a tendency to wear polyester pants which, not to get too graphic, but polyester can hold some serious body funk even if you do wash it regularly and there was no indication that this woman did. Anyway, like I said she was super nice and LOVED TO HUG PEOPLE including me and it was pretty terrible.

carl agatha, Wednesday, 30 July 2014 14:59 (nine years ago) link

My entire office smells of cabbage and burnt rubber and I'm not sure why.

Wristy Hurlington (ShariVari), Wednesday, 30 July 2014 21:06 (nine years ago) link

Co-workers who hug you are the worst. GO AWAY.

ailsa, Wednesday, 30 July 2014 21:47 (nine years ago) link

I sat here and thought about that today. I think I've had one co-worker hug me in the past 18 years of office work. It was at his son's funeral.

I haven't been hugging anyone.

pplains, Wednesday, 30 July 2014 22:04 (nine years ago) link

o man ~15 years ago i worked (a retail job!) with a woman who had srs odor issues. i think she just never ever washed her hair?

she ultimately had to be spoken to, and i was glad to be insufficiently senior enough to have to do it

i did have to tell a few homeless dudes that they had to leave because they smelled too bad, tho

mookieproof, Thursday, 31 July 2014 00:17 (nine years ago) link

Not stupid and i like this person but ugh. Been working on a project split between two depts since Nov and its finally wimding down. It got delayed a month only due to the other depts fuckups...which negatively impacted everyone in my dept including me.

My dept had the smaller part of the proj but my team assisted with development for things that assisted both groups. Proj goes live, my depts goes off without a hitch (whereas the others is a mess).

Naturally we're starting to make transition plans cos we all have other projects that need our attention which werent helped by pushing back a month...and i get asked by one of the mgrs to stay aligned for the whole month cos 'theyre too busy' to take on the small tasks we need them to take over.

Nevermind that we delivered our side with few flaws and in a position where they can easily step in. We are penalized cos they are a mess, even tho we as individuals are no less busy than they are?

Fuuuck that

Neanderthal, Friday, 1 August 2014 02:13 (nine years ago) link

Also someone farted at work today

Neanderthal, Friday, 1 August 2014 02:15 (nine years ago) link

Someone farts at work every day. You just happened to notice today.

carl agatha, Friday, 1 August 2014 13:57 (nine years ago) link

^^^

mookieproof, Friday, 1 August 2014 14:40 (nine years ago) link

it was you Neanderthal, wasn't it

clouds, Friday, 1 August 2014 20:24 (nine years ago) link

well the good news is that as a civil servant I can tell them to go fuck themselves without any retribution more serious than them moving me to a different team.

so I did.

― dn/ac (darraghmac), Thursday, 12 June 2014 16:37 (2 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

they just offered me acting role leading the new team, completely moronic choice ahead of a guy already here and more capable ffs.

Come and Heave a Ho (darraghmac), Tuesday, 12 August 2014 16:24 (nine years ago) link

lol

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 12 August 2014 19:01 (nine years ago) link

on a week's PTO this week but you wouldn't know it given how many times I keep logging in (once was for an expense report tho). Unfortunately managed to see my inbox and couldn't stop myself from looking. The one project team I have that doesn't go live for 4.5 months and has barely chirped at me in weeks is suddenly emailing the hell out of me. Even though I warned them about my PTO, they're emailing me like hawks. Of course, given my anxiety/tendency to harp on things, I decided just to reply to them now and get em over with, whilst reminding them that I'd be back next week (which, y'know, shoulda been a clue given my out of office message which on Outlook 2010 prominently displays at the top before you even hit 'send' on an email).

No more logons. everything else can wait. so glad I gave none of these fuckers my number.

Neanderthal, Tuesday, 12 August 2014 19:31 (nine years ago) link

told boss im turning it down, ah well i'll regret that in the morning

Come and Heave a Ho (darraghmac), Tuesday, 12 August 2014 22:28 (nine years ago) link

Even though I warned them about my PTO, they're emailing me like hawks

sure

boney tassel (sic), Tuesday, 12 August 2014 23:26 (nine years ago) link

xp you sure the other person wants it? sometimes people just want to stay put.

Peeking at Peak Petty (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 15 August 2014 04:50 (nine years ago) link

he snapped their hand off. round of promotions announced today ppl treating me with kid gloves I kinda think I should act more annoyed cos I've been asked to keep it under wraps but lol offices huh

Come and Heave a Ho (darraghmac), Friday, 15 August 2014 07:49 (nine years ago) link

i did not participate in my workplace's 'ice bucket challenge'

mookieproof, Thursday, 21 August 2014 16:05 (nine years ago) link

The problem I have with those type of workplace charity participation events is that it reduces the problem itself—ALS research donations?—to the level of a meme. Sure, money gets raised, but I take my charity with a bit more solemnity thank you very much. That movember thing, my god, stop talking about it. I'm injecting a mixture of bleach and airplane glue into my own prostate just to MAKE IT STOP.

fields of salmon, Thursday, 21 August 2014 23:37 (nine years ago) link

Still gonna need a bucket then.

pplains, Friday, 22 August 2014 00:18 (nine years ago) link

finally figured out why one of the only decent people i've worked with at my job mysteriously disappeared. apparently she had been turned into the department scapegoat and people up there were tormenting her, led by her boss. which is bullshit because she was the nicest, hardest working person i've met here and we both initiated all sorts of projects together to make our departments run better. apparently she left one day crying, disappeared for a month for "illness", then quit.

this happened around the same time things got seriously fucked up for me in my department with a majority of my co-workers turning on me and saying some of the most fucked up things anyone's ever said to me, led by my manager. it's like this place was doing some kind-of blood purge or something. i thought i was going crazy. and this is one of the biggest corporations in the US. there are some seriously screwed up places to work out there.

Spectrum, Wednesday, 27 August 2014 15:18 (nine years ago) link

Arrrrgh you have an OFFICE with a DOOR, youre the only one here who DOES, can you please USE THE DOOR AND CLOSE IT WHEN YOURE ON THE PHONE, I dont care about PBX settings and I have to sit right by you.

the Bronski Review (Trayce), Thursday, 28 August 2014 01:03 (nine years ago) link

+ ∞

mookieproof, Thursday, 28 August 2014 01:05 (nine years ago) link

some people sure like to wash dishes in the office kitchen sink, FORFUCKINGEVER

son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 28 August 2014 01:44 (nine years ago) link

hey at least they wash them! If I find one more grotty coffee cup/spoon piled up in the sink ....

the Bronski Review (Trayce), Thursday, 28 August 2014 01:45 (nine years ago) link

This is more of a stupid workplace thing.

Love my job. Happy with who I work with. I'm walking out of the office tonight and see a cardboard box leaning against a beam in our editorial department. A 42" monitor says the label.

Oh cool, I say. You guys getting a TV?

Yeah, says one of the senior editors. Sort of. It's going to display our Google Analytics in real time.

Ha Ha, I say. No really. Are we going to keep it on Fox or Al-Jazeera?

No really, says the editor. He sighs - it's going to display our Google Analytics in real time.

What in THE fuck.

pplains, Thursday, 28 August 2014 02:22 (nine years ago) link

Last year during an office remodel, they put IPADS outside all of the conference rooms so we could book times to meet.

Know how hard it is to use an iPad that's attached to a wall at a 90º angle, four feet off the ground?

pplains, Thursday, 28 August 2014 02:24 (nine years ago) link

Are there enough things going on in realtime googanals (lol) to even want to see them on a screen!?

the Bronski Review (Trayce), Thursday, 28 August 2014 03:45 (nine years ago) link

NO.

surely there's going to be more to it. still, even if it was on the weather channel all day long, seems like a waste of 42 inches.

pplains, Thursday, 28 August 2014 03:50 (nine years ago) link

highlights of all your failings, with commentary from skip bayless

mookieproof, Thursday, 28 August 2014 03:52 (nine years ago) link

Roofcam of blank skyline.

the Bronski Review (Trayce), Thursday, 28 August 2014 05:08 (nine years ago) link

oo look a bird just flew past.

the Bronski Review (Trayce), Thursday, 28 August 2014 05:08 (nine years ago) link

a 42" monitor is £300 quid these days, a day's wages for some people.

using ipads to do the same job as post-it notes though, that annoys me...

koogs, Thursday, 28 August 2014 10:04 (nine years ago) link

Other People's Fuckups, man.

Did just get to write email asking

"How can we provide assistance in correcting your implementation of these rules?"

which i'm pretty proud of as a corporatese knife twister

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 28 August 2014 13:42 (nine years ago) link

That's a good one.

I threw my boss and a new advertiser under the bus this morning, sort of.

Malibu Stasi (WilliamC), Thursday, 28 August 2014 14:09 (nine years ago) link

not one but two coworkers post pics of dishes (food items) they didn't have anything to do with producing and don't say it's not their work. phonies

Tom Waits for no one (outdoor_miner), Thursday, 28 August 2014 14:16 (nine years ago) link

i think i'm done working for corporations. what i want out of my work is to create things and go as hard and fast as i can to the fullest extent i'm capable of, and then beyond that wherever that goes. and then i have to work with people who have petty, fragile egos, power trippers, bored Machiavellis, status-obsessed nitwits, people who are easily threatened for the stupidest reasons. and then maybe they end up as one of the majority of people who on their death beds regret they didn't live life the way they wanted to because they cared more about iPads and how they look in pictures in peoples' minds or vomiting their demons on others than their own values. i'm getting sick of this stupidity, and that includes my own.

Spectrum, Thursday, 28 August 2014 14:31 (nine years ago) link

Spectrum from your posts it sounds like you're in a particularly fucked up environment.

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 28 August 2014 14:38 (nine years ago) link

it is particularly fucked up. i've worked for other corporations, though, and it was the same thing plus corporate espionage and more back stabbing... actually, it was way more vicious than here, just a little classier. i only lucked out there because the sub-corporation i worked for was a little fiefdom where people were actually cool. word was we were unique in that regard and we eventually got shut down. maybe smaller corporations are different, or those two places were anomalies, that's the fullest extent of my experience.

Spectrum, Thursday, 28 August 2014 14:47 (nine years ago) link

so I made the mistake of mentioning we're going to NYC and now a pack of nosey in my space biddies keep, now I mean KEEP loudly proclaiming marriage proposals despite one polite assurance that this is not on my agenda and shit it went on for days way beyond uh what I'd call acceptable and TBH I think I can take a joke more than most so eh I told them I had set her an earnings target and to get her teeth and eyes fixed before she turned thirty which was now looking unlikely and TBH I had planned to pop the question but was now regretting booking the trip because I'd probably have kicked her to the kerb by now and surely will straight after but hey plenty more fish in the sea thanks for asking and now they don't seem to want to talk to me about marriage or my relationship or uh much of anything anymore so desired result achieved I spose

nakh is the wintour of our diss content (darraghmac), Thursday, 28 August 2014 14:54 (nine years ago) link

I find that not washing, like, ever is an easier way to get co-workers to stop talking to me.

I only listen to Vantablack Metal (snoball), Thursday, 28 August 2014 15:02 (nine years ago) link

headphones + intense focus y'all

post...aftermath (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 28 August 2014 15:16 (nine years ago) link

then you act annoyed when they make you take your earphones out.

post...aftermath (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 28 August 2014 15:16 (nine years ago) link

But only slightly. Just a whisper of death stare before you break it and remove the earphones with a smile.

post...aftermath (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 28 August 2014 15:17 (nine years ago) link

^ doesn't work ime, I tried escalating well beyond slightly annoyed and it still didn't stop the fuckers. What did solve the problem was quitting.

Just noise and screaming and no musical value at all. (Colonel Poo), Thursday, 28 August 2014 15:21 (nine years ago) link

worth considering bytimes but TBH I find oversharing entirely made-up and uncomfortable content usually puts a stop to insistence on oversharing

nakh is the wintour of our diss content (darraghmac), Thursday, 28 August 2014 15:30 (nine years ago) link

hurrhurrhurr. good point d-mac, i need to kick my own oversharing habit.

Spectrum, Thursday, 28 August 2014 15:44 (nine years ago) link

I'm seriously running out of things to listen to in my headphones. I've been wearing earplugs at times, but this is kind of an asshole move on my part too.

pplains, Thursday, 28 August 2014 16:07 (nine years ago) link

Yeah I wish headphones worked. Ive had people talking at my back for minutes, me not hearing a word of it or reacting. They're over-ear cans and everything, cmon you dolts. I'm not responding and Ive my back to you. Doesnt that tell you something?

the Bronski Review (Trayce), Friday, 29 August 2014 01:56 (nine years ago) link

this is why I'm glad I work from home. the banalities of the contractors who used to sit next to me in the office used to drive me up the wall. because they'd have these conversations at volume 11.

Neanderthal, Friday, 29 August 2014 02:19 (nine years ago) link

Oh well nobody talks to me unless they've got a specific question.

post...aftermath (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 29 August 2014 02:49 (nine years ago) link

I have to say, I've worked for small and medium businesses, non-profits, government agencies, and big corporations (or their law firm equivalent) and the corporate gigs were by far the least dysfunctional. Which is not to say that you're not working in a dysfunctional hellhole, Spectrum, because holy shit you clearly are, but just to say that you shouldn't turn down an otherwise good job if it happens to be in a corporate environment out of fear it will be equally terrible.

That said, I've worked in some spectacularly dysfunctional work environments so it's possible I don't have a completely balanced perspective on it.

carl agatha, Friday, 29 August 2014 04:00 (nine years ago) link

I work for a small company and they just fire you the moment dysfunction is sniffed.

post...aftermath (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 29 August 2014 04:31 (nine years ago) link

I like it

post...aftermath (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 29 August 2014 04:31 (nine years ago) link

That's true about corporate employers, although I have found that the difficulty lies in maintaining high standards and composure in that corporate culture. Got an aging relative? Cousin behind bars? Forget corporate life!

With some unreliable family members to deal with, I've avoided those jobs - because I need a more liberal env so I can drop everything and head home, if need be.

Opus Gai (I M Losted), Friday, 29 August 2014 14:35 (nine years ago) link

dear ppl releasing 'important' information (which could have been done at any time this week, and which i now have to write about, and which you hope will attract notice) at 4:30pm on the friday of a long weekend

fuck you and your stupid fuckin faces

mookieproof, Friday, 29 August 2014 20:38 (nine years ago) link

I have a co-worker who will only ever schedule meetings at 4:30 on Friday or, barring that, between noon and 1 so that everyone gets to skip lunch.

odd proggy geezer (Moodles), Friday, 29 August 2014 21:04 (nine years ago) link

a few years back, our company brilliantly decided that teams would no longer be allowed to have administrative access to their own case management tools and would have to instead request updates to the system through a special team that would do them for them.

Most of the tasks took anywhere between 15-30 minutes when the team was allowed to do them themselves. The 'special team' requires a minimum of four business days to turn them around, and rarely if ever are able to do it quicker, citing that they are 'too busy'...even in urgent situations.

When informed they had made things 1920% slower in the process, they responded by essentially saying they didn't care and that it's going to stay this way.

Neanderthal, Friday, 29 August 2014 21:45 (nine years ago) link

Are you in spec, ILX?

post...aftermath (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 29 August 2014 23:07 (nine years ago) link

I've been looking forward to working in a corporate environment b/c it will have SYSTEMS and PROTOCOLS and RULES. Not to mention other staff to cover when I'm out. In my current job at a tiny law firm I'm the only one who knows how to do a lot of essential shit (e-filing in state courts, cancelling a print job, adding a footer on a PDF) so taking a couple days off in a row requires tons of advance notice. Plus, despite my best efforts, everything is ad hoc - no protocols means we reinvent case management for every new case.

Like carl, I've worked in some exceptionally fucked up workplaces, and the worst (IME only, of course) were the small ones. I hear accounts like Spectrum's, of corporate hellscapes, or Neanderthal's company's paralyzing bureaucracy, but then sometimes carl tells me about "teams" and "departments" ("document solutions"!) at her Big Law law firm and it sounds like a fairy tale.

Je55e, Saturday, 30 August 2014 16:17 (nine years ago) link

Sunny's worked for a few dysfunctional small businesses since she came to the U.S. Many an evening where she'd pause after recounting a bad day and then say, "That never happened at IBM."

pplains, Saturday, 30 August 2014 16:39 (nine years ago) link

I'm about to start work for a large corporation (where I've worked before) where everything moves glacially slow. To the point where the person who I've been hired to cover for has already been on leave for 2 months. Also no-one ever makes a decision, and even the problem of departments not communicating has to be brought up at a special inter-departmental meeting (which was called by a senior manager who later quit, probably partly in disgust at this).

I only listen to Vantablack Metal (snoball), Saturday, 30 August 2014 17:05 (nine years ago) link

I can't decide whether the cheap, paranoid, prolife solo practitioner attorney's office, the redneck bar owned by unapologetic racist sexual harassers, or the state of Illinois was the most dysfunctional work environment I've experienced.

carl agatha, Saturday, 30 August 2014 17:09 (nine years ago) link

There's so much to choose from.

Orson Wellies (in orbit), Saturday, 30 August 2014 17:11 (nine years ago) link

My sister has worked at 80% of the corps in Chicago...all she talks about is getting back into Leo Burnett. Go to lunch with Leo Burnett people, they go, "I laugh at your miserable office from a great height!" Perfect location, too.

You should hear her small office horror stories!

Opus Gai (I M Losted), Saturday, 30 August 2014 17:18 (nine years ago) link

I used to be a waiter in the Leo Burnett building and those people drink at lunch like...madmen.

Je55e, Saturday, 30 August 2014 17:58 (nine years ago) link

A fellow server got a job there and said it was all creativity-tents and Razor Scooters in the halls.

At the restaurant we worked at we stocked Budweiser beers but kept them hidden and off the menu b/c one of LB's big clients was Miller and they would take umbrage at our selling Bud.

Once a year the restaurant put up enormous prints of LB ads in one dining area so for a few months this was one of the first things you'd see when you walked in

http://files1.coloribus.com/files/adsarchive/part_864/8645055/file/tourism-brookfield-zoo-small-50771.jpg

Je55e, Saturday, 30 August 2014 18:04 (nine years ago) link

wait, that's credited to JWT, not LB. idk. it was in the dining room. and that's been everything i have to say about Leo Burnett.

Je55e, Saturday, 30 August 2014 18:06 (nine years ago) link

associate today put his phone in 'unavailable' five minutes prior to close because there were 3 calls waiting in the queue and he apparently wanted to get home on time. then logs out right at quitting time, leaving his colleagues to pick up the slack.

pretty stupid move considering I could see what he was doing and the process of disciplinary action began before his car hit the driveway. all to save himself ten minutes.

Neanderthal, Tuesday, 9 September 2014 22:27 (nine years ago) link

ha!

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 9 September 2014 23:04 (nine years ago) link

wow. that is a hardcore disgusting savage

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 9 September 2014 23:05 (nine years ago) link

If anybody reported me for leaving 5 minutes early i'd point out the thousands of times I'd stayed late / worked through lunch etc

koogs, Wednesday, 10 September 2014 04:54 (nine years ago) link

Yeah, unless he does that every day, there's usually an understanding among co-workers that you get to do that kind of thing if you need to leave on time, and you'll cover for others when it's their turn. Reporting him seems extraordinarily shitty.

Eyeball Kicks, Wednesday, 10 September 2014 08:39 (nine years ago) link

It tends to even out over time. There's nothing like the feeling of picking up the phone five minutes before you're due to leave work and realizing "oh shit, this is going to be an hour" and having to abandon your social life/dinner plans with your partner/sporting event/whatever else just because some shithead customer decides to call five minutes before the end of the day.

Generally I find that groups of similarly phonebound colleagues tend to have a degree of solidarity around this point,

fields of salmon, Wednesday, 10 September 2014 08:41 (nine years ago) link

As someone who works on the phones I do this from time to time when I NEED to be out on time (doc appt, show I have tickets for, etc) though I usually don't because I don't mind staying late for overtime.

Also we're open 24h and have at least 150-200 employees so it's not like I'm dumping shit on other people who will have to stay late

Gay Fire Beautiful Dong (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 10 September 2014 11:19 (nine years ago) link

God now that I think of it I definitely wind up working past 5:30 more often than not

Gay Fire Beautiful Dong (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 10 September 2014 11:20 (nine years ago) link

Used to know a guy who claimed to have been fired from his last job for doing this.

But he was a 9-1-1 dispatcher apparently.

pplains, Wednesday, 10 September 2014 11:23 (nine years ago) link

IMO concentrating on how ppl need to fuck with yr system in order to get out on time is missing the point about your shitty system

nakh is the wintour of our diss content (darraghmac), Wednesday, 10 September 2014 11:37 (nine years ago) link

A couple of jobs ago I generally stopped taking calls 30 minutes before the end of my shift. My calls were screened by an associate who texted me the nature of the call and I would reply Y or N.

Publicly, I said this was because I wanted to ensure that any last-minute high priority items could get looked at and that a customer phoning up with a "How Do I..." question would not end up taking priority. Really, I just wanted to get the fuck out of there on time.

This system ended up working well and being ultimately well-perceived by my employers, since I legitimately did end up catching a lot of the high priority off-timezone issues that would have had to wait 24 hours otherwise. For the one day in 10 or 15 shifts that I caught a bad one at 4:56pm, I ended up saving us a ton of money and grief.

It was worth it, and I felt it was a fair compromise to stay as late as necessary for "high priority" only.

fields of salmon, Wednesday, 10 September 2014 17:19 (nine years ago) link

Yeah, unless he does that every day, there's usually an understanding among co-workers that you get to do that kind of thing if you need to leave on time, and you'll cover for others when it's their turn. Reporting him seems extraordinarily shitty.

― Eyeball Kicks, Wednesday, 10 September 2014 04:39 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

actually, there's not - if there is a personal need that needs to be tended to, the associate needs to report it to their manager and make arrangements. not deciding "hey, I'm going to screw over my other co-workers who now have to stay longer". it's part of their job description that they agree to when they accept the job. they also know when they accept a later shift that this expectation is in place.

srsly, have you ever worked in a call center? I worked late shift before and never pulled a move like that once. It can be grounds for immediate termination.

Neanderthal, Thursday, 11 September 2014 02:14 (nine years ago) link

IMO concentrating on how ppl need to fuck with yr system in order to get out on time is missing the point about your shitty system

― nakh is the wintour of our diss content (darraghmac), Wednesday, 10 September 2014 07:37 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

no, you're right, everybody should feel free to log out whenever they feel like it, and all of the customers that call prior to close should just have their calls sitting in limbo forever, that makes sense.

Neanderthal, Thursday, 11 September 2014 02:16 (nine years ago) link

srsly what the fuck are you guys even on about

Neanderthal, Thursday, 11 September 2014 02:16 (nine years ago) link

for the record, this was at the end of the day, when the center closed. the associates have to clear the queue before they can go, and they are made aware of this expectation upon their hire. This associate decided he didn't feel like doing that and screwed over his fellow co-workers who then had to stay later as a result. if he isn't ok with how it works, he should have asked for an earlier shift. simple as that).

Neanderthal, Thursday, 11 September 2014 02:26 (nine years ago) link

I worked five years in a call centre and it's bullshit to not have elasticity built in to your end of shift procedures to allow for transitioning. if it was the end of day without further shift cover then pay ppl til 5.15 and roster them for same.

nb I had friends and colleagues but never associates so YMMV

nakh is the wintour of our diss content (darraghmac), Thursday, 11 September 2014 02:30 (nine years ago) link

everybody who stays past their time to clear the queue gets overtime pay. Proactively staffing people to work past close even when the demand isn't there is a pointless overcorrection to an infrequent problem.

Neanderthal, Thursday, 11 September 2014 02:42 (nine years ago) link

So his colleagues being left to pick up the slack wouldn't have mattered to them because they ended up getting overtime?

Rotating prince game (I am using your worlds), Thursday, 11 September 2014 11:36 (nine years ago) link

actually, there's not - if there is a personal need that needs to be tended to, the associate needs to report it to their manager and make arrangements. not deciding "hey, I'm going to screw over my other co-workers who now have to stay longer". it's part of their job description that they agree to when they accept the job. they also know when they accept a later shift that this expectation is in place.

srsly, have you ever worked in a call center? I worked late shift before and never pulled a move like that once. It can be grounds for immediate termination.

Sorry never been in a call centre but you sound like a dick.

Eyeball Kicks, Thursday, 11 September 2014 11:49 (nine years ago) link

I've always worked in call centres and really I'd say this is all down to the nature of the internal rules and contracts of the workplace. In all I'm in the 'If someone usually works hard and needs just this one chance to leave early so s/he can catch a train for an important personal appointment, then cool' camp - but it would depend if it impacts significantly on their co-workers.

monoprix à dimanche (dog latin), Thursday, 11 September 2014 11:52 (nine years ago) link

I feel like this whole thing could have been remedied if the guy had asked if he could leave early or right at 5 pm instead of leaving his colleagues in a lurch. Then a good manager will say yeah, okay this is a good employee who works hard so I'm going to give him this leeway. But you need to have a certain amount of coverage for the phones, and if people can just leave as it suits them, you can't schedule the coverage that you need. It's a pretty basic precept of call center employment.

I've done call center work and it really is an expectation that you leave at quitting time or whenever the last call you take before quitting time finally ends. Hence the many nights sitting there praying that nobody decided they really needed to balance the past six years of checking withdraws at 9:56 pm (I worked second shift). But that's just part of the job, and it's an expectation that's laid out when you first start and is generally something that's reinforced every day that you work.

If your job is not one that requires scheduled shifts/coverage, then I am 100% in support of letting people pretty much come and go as they please as long as they get their work done. It's gross to treat professional employees like elementary school children. But for stuff like call centers or retail or reception, you just can't do that.

carl agatha, Thursday, 11 September 2014 16:11 (nine years ago) link

otm. there are other people's workloads tied to yours and if you pull what to all intents and purposes reads like a dick move, then you deserve to be written up.

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 11 September 2014 16:54 (nine years ago) link

I tend to view people with suspicion who voice the attitude "working in a call centre is a choice and you chose to have a less stable home life than your friends and family who do not work in call centres."

Call centre work can be low-paid and grindingly awful. We're not talking about medical students who trade 24/7 availability for the promise of eventual riches and the high esteem of society at large. It's often a "choice"—if you can call it that—people make in response to economic circumstances not entirely of their own control.

(To be fair It can be a lot of fun also, I made a lot of great friends during this time. But did I choose it? Not exactly.)

fields of salmon, Thursday, 11 September 2014 16:54 (nine years ago) link

One thing I can also say is I worked with a ton of clock watchers, dog fuckers, and other assorted lazybones. I can also happily say that some of them are still exactly where they started.

Call centres have their own internal karma, whereby if you put in a little extra, cover for someone who's lazy or disengaged, and stop whining about "so-and-so left early yesterday, they deserve a reprimand" sometimes good things can come to you. Depending on the call centre, management might take an interest in you and that's your ticket out.

fields of salmon, Thursday, 11 September 2014 16:56 (nine years ago) link

on the other hand life is too short to prop up other people's shitty behaviour

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 11 September 2014 16:59 (nine years ago) link

if shitty behaviour is on one day needing to make sure you leave on the dot from a shitty job then jeezo what a life

Eyeball Kicks, Thursday, 11 September 2014 19:59 (nine years ago) link

So glad I've never had to work with dog fuckers.

ƋППṍӮɨ∏ğڵșěᶉᶇдM℮ (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 11 September 2014 20:16 (nine years ago) link

it ain't great, but it's a living

odd proggy geezer (Moodles), Thursday, 11 September 2014 20:17 (nine years ago) link

Doug Fuckers is actually a very punctual and responsible dude

Bitterer than Bitter (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 12 September 2014 00:09 (nine years ago) link

Dutch guy, right? I think I covered his shift one time.

fields of salmon, Friday, 12 September 2014 00:33 (nine years ago) link

yes, that's the one. tall as a tree. rode a bicycle. had no filter.

Bitterer than Bitter (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 12 September 2014 00:34 (nine years ago) link

if shitty behaviour is on one day needing to make sure you leave on the dot from a shitty job then jeezo what a life

I praise your good fortune. I've been written up - honest to god written up - for being TWO MINUTES late for work before. In all call centres Ive worked in (and this is why I no longer do), its not the leaving early so much as the deliberate dropping call/putting self on no calls move thats the punisable offence. You honestly DONT get to just swan off 5-10 mins early without warning. Its just that kind of work. You wouldnt do it working behind a counter and leaving the other person in the lurch during lunch rush without warning; same kinda idea.

I once asked 2 times running to leave work 15 mins early (making up the time with earlier start) so I could get to band rehearsal. Because I made the mistake of saying thats what it was rather than something fucking noble like "I have kids", I got told sharply "dont make a habit of this".

the Bronski Review (Trayce), Friday, 12 September 2014 01:08 (nine years ago) link

having managed ppl, neando is pretty much otm. particularly since it shafted dude's coworkers

having worked at a call center for two and a half months in the mid-90s, that shit is soul-crushingly awful and basically fuck that system in every possible way

mookieproof, Friday, 12 September 2014 01:24 (nine years ago) link

Yeah "but they get overtime!" means nothing when your plans have been ruined or you end up stuck on a 35 minute call at shift's end cos some deaf old lady doesnt know what "click the start menu" means.

the Bronski Review (Trayce), Friday, 12 September 2014 03:37 (nine years ago) link

I DONT SEE THE STAR MENU DEARIE

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 12 September 2014 03:39 (nine years ago) link

left click? which left? whats a click?

the Bronski Review (Trayce), Friday, 12 September 2014 03:54 (nine years ago) link

Oh I dont like mice

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 12 September 2014 04:08 (nine years ago) link

Oh you mean my SCREEN SAVER

Gay Fire Beautiful Dong (Stevie D(eux)), Friday, 12 September 2014 04:16 (nine years ago) link

Why does the cup holder keep popping out???

nickn, Friday, 12 September 2014 05:41 (nine years ago) link

There's having a word in someone's ear and there's not being able to wait to start formal disciplinary action. If the dude had previous repeated transgressions then sure, write him up, but Neanderthal's post reads like someone who loves exerting his authority.

I misuse (onimo), Saturday, 13 September 2014 09:27 (nine years ago) link

Helpdesk is a shitty job - everyone who does it needs a plan to get out and into something else as soon as they can. I haven't worked on a helpdesk for years, but two of our helpdesk guys left this week - one has moved on to a better job, the other just walked.

wackness unlimited (snoball), Saturday, 13 September 2014 09:46 (nine years ago) link

Today is my last day before I leave for two weeks of vacation, which people have known about for over a month and I bet I don't even have to type anything else for anyone reading to know how things are going for me today.

It isn't helping that I've been staying up past midnight for the last three days trying to get things done, so I'm running on a serious sleep deficit.

carl agatha, Wednesday, 24 September 2014 17:51 (nine years ago) link

I can't imagine what it's like to work a job like that where it's like ppl know and they drop the ball and you STILL have to deal with it!! I feel like I wd get so much pleasure from being, like, "uh, sorry, this isn't news and you've had tons of time to prepare for this and your emergency is not going to become my emergency"

EMA Sumac (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 24 September 2014 19:50 (nine years ago) link

The pleasure starts to fade the fourth time you tell somebody that because by that time you start thinking you are doing something wrong.

carl agatha, Wednesday, 24 September 2014 22:30 (nine years ago) link

This is a bitch-by-proxy, but similar to Carl's above; my wife is about to start maternity leave, and had been pestering some dude for information she absolutely needed to get something done. She repeatedly explained that she was going on mat leave (for a year) so it was super important she got it. Eventually got him on the phone and he promised it would be sent by close of business that day. The next day; nothing, so she emailed him for an update. Got an Out of Office as he's on vacation for 3 weeks, getting back the monday after she starts maternity leave.

On the one hand, dick move, but on the other hand I admire his skills at avoiding doing his job and getting away with it.

CraigG, Thursday, 25 September 2014 09:00 (nine years ago) link

Not so much annoying as weird: guy singing a (very repetitive) hymn - at least I think it was a hymn - from inside a toilet cubicle. Oh, here's the annoying bit, it was in totally the wrong key for his voice, far too high... why sing out loud in the wrong key?

The Count has shot himself (Tom D.), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 12:47 (nine years ago) link

as a result of last minute sickies, I'd to miss bullshit training this morning to do actual work. failure to show due remorse during a dressing down session led to my immediate manager getting a fit of the giggles in front of the dressing-downer, who had accused me of "grinning like a Cheshire shark" on his way out of the door in a huff.

zero content albums (darraghmac), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 13:39 (nine years ago) link

like I didn't even give any guff tbf I just had to grin or burst

zero content albums (darraghmac), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 13:42 (nine years ago) link

Cheshire shark!

I came here b/c even though this isn't about my co-worker, it's about someone's co-worker. I'm reviewing a couple years' worth of a company's emails, in many of which a manager at global corporation uses exclamation marks at the end of literally every single sentence. (Except those where he doesn't use any punctuation at all.) Usually only one exclamation mark, but here and there two or three (for emphasis, I guess).

Did I already post about this? It's been on my mind so much the past couple of months that I don't know if I've ever mentioned it or if it's all I talk about.

Je55e, Tuesday, 30 September 2014 18:43 (nine years ago) link

Elaine Benes would approve

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyRLFWF2v_U

Free Me's Electric Trumpet (Moodles), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 18:46 (nine years ago) link

although it really doesn't sound so bad. I had a co-worker who ended every sentence with at least one or two question marks.

Free Me's Electric Trumpet (Moodles), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 18:47 (nine years ago) link

We had a client who did that! It was terrible, especially since that's also how she sounded on the phone.

Je55e, Tuesday, 30 September 2014 20:00 (nine years ago) link

My Mexican relatives often put two question marks at the ends of sentences in emails and IMs but they don't use the leading "¿" I wonder if the 2nd ? is a substitution for ¿ ?

Je55e, Tuesday, 30 September 2014 20:02 (nine years ago) link

it really doesn't sound so bad

not so bad?? but stupid and annoying? no??

Aimless, Tuesday, 30 September 2014 20:06 (nine years ago) link

I'm reviewing a couple years' worth of a company's emails, in many of which a manager at global corporation uses exclamation marks at the end of literally every single sentence.

Does the global corporation make peppermint bath soap?

pplains, Tuesday, 30 September 2014 20:11 (nine years ago) link

OMG I used to have this dictator boss who would shriek if we sent outside e-mails that were non-conformist in any way. Exclamation points are appropriate in some corporate settings, I guess. My brother used to work for a Famous Soap Maker, you sort of have to adopt the products like you joined a new church.

I work in the burbs now after urban jobs my whole life. It's, um, different. Like I feel like I'm living and working in a cornfield different. I hope to make a graceful exit some day. It's taught me a lot about unfairness - like how urban students have the deck stacked against them, when they are sophisticated in so many ways that aren't valued. I miss the city terribly. The young folks are great but some of the older folks are resolutely un-urban and dull.

Opus Gai (I M Losted), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 20:34 (nine years ago) link

I'm living and working in a cornfield different

I liked when I thought "different" was an adjective modifying "cornfield," like it was a figure of speech. I shall arise and go to work in a cornfield different.

Je55e, Wednesday, 1 October 2014 11:49 (nine years ago) link

cornfield difference sounds like a BoC song

Gumbercules? I love that guy! (Trayce), Wednesday, 1 October 2014 12:18 (nine years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/SWktNSB.jpg

pplains, Wednesday, 1 October 2014 13:51 (nine years ago) link

More exclamation marks: today I found a case online with exhibits including an email from a state labor commissioner to a lawyer. It reads in part:

Dear [attorney's name]

I have bad news for you! We received your letter but the plaintiff has decided...

bold-face in original

Je55e, Wednesday, 1 October 2014 17:47 (nine years ago) link

Sitting outside in an area where people eat their lunch, guy puts a private phone conversation on speakers so he can keep shovelling food his gob - then carries on after he's finished eating. Conversation included lots of medical stuff about abcesses and 'the cancer was like a hard lump' and was very loud. I work with some weird people.

The Count has shot himself (Tom D.), Friday, 3 October 2014 11:29 (nine years ago) link

We lost our lunch room due to too many staff now being employed here, have been given an outdoor eating area instead, which is 5m away from the designated smoking area

ornamental cabbage (James Morrison), Wednesday, 8 October 2014 04:37 (nine years ago) link

Sounds like a passive way for management to whittle the staff back down to a lunchroom size.

pplains, Wednesday, 8 October 2014 15:55 (nine years ago) link

So in the early spring our fundraising VP was unexpectedly let go. Strategic differences between his approach and what the CEO wanted. There was a 6 month search to bring in a new VP, during which time my Dept Dir was clearly recognized as The Person Running the Show.

The new VP arrived 90 days ago. There has been a quiet battle ever since between the new VP and my Dept Dir, during which time it became clear the new VP didn't understand what my data analysis department did, how we did it, or why it did any good.

Today, after a long morning meeting with the Dept Dir working out some data problems and a sudden and odd coda about my career path, my whole department was pulled into a meeting and told that the Dept Dir is "no longer with us, as of today."

I had to hold back a snort. They have no idea how badly they've just fucked themselves--the one person keeping this admittedly sluggish train on the rails has been kicked out the door as we head toward a cliff, and they act like they're gonna learn to conduct the thing before we go off the edge.

**job searching intensifies**

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 8 October 2014 18:23 (nine years ago) link

Fairly new CIO calls an all hands department meeting, only to have their PA send an e-mail cancelling it half an hour before it's due to happen because the CIO apparently can't make it and has something more important to do than stand in a room with forty already pissed off people. Two weeks later, the same thing happens, only the cancellation e-mail arrives 3 minutes before the meeting.

wackness unlimited (snoball), Wednesday, 8 October 2014 18:32 (nine years ago) link

That's shitty behaviour, although every suddenly cancelled meeting is like a little gift from the gods tbh. as long as you didn't come into the office specially.

ornamental cabbage (James Morrison), Wednesday, 8 October 2014 23:32 (nine years ago) link

Itd be hilarious if that happened at my work, given they pay to fly my part of the team from melb to syd for all hands meetings!

Gumbercules? I love that guy! (Trayce), Wednesday, 8 October 2014 23:50 (nine years ago) link

I'd be all "cool, free sydney holiday, woot"

Gumbercules? I love that guy! (Trayce), Wednesday, 8 October 2014 23:50 (nine years ago) link

meetings getting cancelled happens daily in my office. standard advertising procedure.

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 9 October 2014 03:01 (nine years ago) link

ugh u guys

this is not a specifically 'coworker' post as much as general office lyfe

the company I worked for for 12 years was sold to a competitor in October. we had 3 month transition time leading up to that point, 2 months of which was not knowing if we were going to be rehired or what. Luckily i was rehired, they kept abt 40 of us which was way more than we expected.

anyway. I work in sales. we were all given 'training' on their computer system...except for most of us, training was 2 days of general overview a month before we went live. there was no pre-planning to figure out how large accounts are currently handled, and how they can be handled similarly in their system...it was pretty much radio silence until day 1 of new company, where we suddenly learned that oh shit we can't do aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaanything

the old company's computer system seemed sluggish and dated to us; but this new situation is like we've all been beamed back to 1985 and someone's going to come by and give us a stack of order pads. they hand-key EVERYTHING. if anything fucks up with a huge order for hundreds of accounts, pretty much the only fix they have is oh go in to each order line by line and cancel the item by hand

first two weeks were me every day wondering 'ok what am I even doing here, this SUCKS'. I don't think I've ever had a more stressful time in my life than the last 3 weeks.

today was the first day where sun actually came out from behind the clouds & got my head somewhat above water. but there are a lot of people struggling with it still, who are a lot further behind than me in at least accepting what they can and can't do

the thing that I am seeing a lot psychologically is the difference between coworkers who treat a problem as someone else's to fix, and the people who treat a problem as their own and try to master it. I talked to two people today at length and both them were like 'I DONT' CARE WHY IT WON'T WORK WHY CAN'T YOU JUST FIX IT'
which to me just seems so incredibly exhausting & a general bummer

anyway, ~random thoughts~

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 17 October 2014 03:05 (nine years ago) link

ok, that sounds genuinely AWFUL--commiserations, vg

ornamental cabbage (James Morrison), Friday, 17 October 2014 03:57 (nine years ago) link

Not even close to being as severe as that, but we switched to a gmail-based email system last month.

Now - Richard Nixon was president when I was born. I'm not trying to be lol @ old people here. But for the love of God, we had a training session and I heard the words "Can you run through composing an email?" I also heard "But what if I don't know the name of who I'm searching for? On Outlook, at least I can scroll though it and browse." And "So the folders are labels? Then are those label labels on the side there?"

In my department, all I hear is how "stupid" the new system is. Co-workers complain to the .. ceiling tiles? ... about how they just wish the emails would show up individually instead of in a "conversation". One employee has just given up – I hear her on the phone telling contacts that she didn't get the email from them because the new system ate it and made it disappear.

IT IS FUCKING GMAIL. Which in itself is just a smoother version of HOTMAIL. It's just like your Outlook or Mail except it's operating out of a browser. Now, we can have a conversation about applications like Thunderbird versus having to use a browser, but IT'S THE SAME FORMAT, FOR ALL INTENTS & PURPOSES. Composing a gmail is basically THE SAME. You can be insane and "browse" your entire archive by hitting the arrow buttons! You can adjust the settings to your own personal modification INCLUDING changing the format from conversation to individual emails!

And nothing just "disappears". I wish more things did "disappear." I would wager ... at least $35 that those vanishing missives are in those weird PROMOTIONS or SOCIAL tabs that I admit aren't the most intuitive things in the world, but I AT LEAST CHECK EVERY ONCE IN AWHILE LIKE I DID WITH THE SPAM FOLDER ON THE OLD SYSTEM.

Hearing my co-workers complain about the despairing complexities of GMAIL - A WEB-BASED SOFTWARE THAT'S BEEN AROUND SINCE 2004 for the last month combined with their frequently repeated opinions of the upcoming election WHICH I AGREE WITH FOR THE MOST PART are driving me crazy.

The last time I wore ear plugs at a job was in college when I worked at the hose clamp factory. That changed a few weeks ago.

pplains, Friday, 17 October 2014 04:12 (nine years ago) link

lol - we have that too!

they have us temporarily on the outlook web app until we move to our new building

the amount of people who are flipping out over it is kind of O_o

no one is a fan of 'conversations' apparently

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 17 October 2014 04:46 (nine years ago) link

I don't like them either, but the neat thing about accepting change is that there are usually ways you can change that too.

pplains, Friday, 17 October 2014 04:52 (nine years ago) link

yup

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 17 October 2014 04:53 (nine years ago) link

But yeah. I understand the frustration, but waiting around for someone to fix it is even worse.

One guy would make a scene about his "monitor going black" and call up the art guy instead of I.T. It was very likely his putting the cursor in a hot corner and going into sleep mode, but I sure as hell wasn't going to say anything. Learned my own lesson from that art guy.

pplains, Friday, 17 October 2014 05:19 (nine years ago) link

like Ed Harris says in Apollo 13

WORK THE PROBLEM, PEOPLE

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 17 October 2014 05:23 (nine years ago) link

vg ilu rn

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 17 October 2014 07:08 (nine years ago) link

You can switch off 'conversation' view in gmail, can't you?

kinder, Friday, 17 October 2014 12:33 (nine years ago) link

Oh u said that already

kinder, Friday, 17 October 2014 12:34 (nine years ago) link

vg, that situation is my nightmare. i don't think a big company has ever changed computer systems and not fucked it up. consultants get paid six figures to manage software implementations, and it still crashes and burns. at my last company, the software transition was botched so badly that we had to redo it the next year and lost an entire year of sales history (which makes life really fun when you're a product manager and need to keep track of forecasts and trends).

eh mec, elle est ou ma caisse? (ytth), Friday, 17 October 2014 14:27 (nine years ago) link

it's a crazy mess right now

amidst all of that, the cherry on top is that the culture of this new sales company is a 180 from ours. we both have been doing the exact same thing alongside each other for 25 years, but there was a reason we were competitors, and i see that now up close. it's like night & day

new company = methodical, old fashioned, simple. we're not going to turn cartwheels for you, but if you adapt to embrace our system you will be happy.

my old company = unhappy? tell us what you need & we will build it for u. it was almost unheard of to ask a customer to change what they were doing, we'd just "make it work"

it's like, idk, going from freeform jazz to wagner. our salesreps are so used to doing whatever it took to please the customer for 10, 15, 20 years & now they have to tell those same customers that they just can't do any of that anymore. it's

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 18 October 2014 03:43 (nine years ago) link

i see benefits in both approaches...and honestly, their buttoned-up approach explains a lot of how they kept making money & we lost money.

good will come out of this, i think. but it's going to be hard fought.

it's rough seeing our perennially chipper upper management team with bleary, sleepless stares, everyone is just str8 exhausted

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 18 October 2014 03:47 (nine years ago) link

Just started a new job this month. Man, is it ever nice to have a) an office to myself (nb this is probably the lowest-paying job around where you get your own office) b) a boss who isn't high all the time and doesn't forget who she's calling after dialing the number, and c) co-workers who are just basically pleasant and helpful, and don't hold grudges for eternity, or want to ask me about my favorite subreddits, or insist on putting on "I Got These Beats Inside My Head" at 8:30 in the morning.

JoeStork, Saturday, 18 October 2014 04:00 (nine years ago) link

I work in an office w/ six people in, sometimes there are 7 and the 7th goes in the desk behind me and tbh I hate it because I have some weird psychological block that I just get distracted and anxious all the time when someone is sitting a foot behind me, well a-boo hoo get over yrself etc etc

the boss of the dept happened to mention all casual like "oh yeah, we're going to merge you with the other half of the department, knocking down walls and cramming 4x as many people into the newly enlarged 1.5x-as-big space" and I am really not looking forward to that

then again, I realise I was lucky to be in an actual office in the first place and basically no other job still exists which lets anyone who isn't a manager not be elbow-to-elbow and back-to-back with other people

club mate martyr (a passing spacecadet), Saturday, 18 October 2014 15:21 (nine years ago) link

I need some advice from my ilx peeps. Well, a reaction check really.

I was recently reprimanded in a meeting with my manager and the head of HR for an incident of tardiness that occurred about 4 weeks ago. There were mitigating factors. There is a twice weekly half hour conference call for managers with a development company we work with who is based in India. My manager told me that she would like me to be on these calls. I am not a manager but she decided to make me the QA lead of the project that the conference call is the subject of (no official title or pay raise though. shocker!). I said I would and she said that since the conference call is scheduled to start half an hour before my start time, I could join the call from home and then drive in after the call finished which would get me in half an hour later than my normal start time.

I did this the first time I joined the meeting but when I arrived at work my manager was incredibly upset because I was 'late'. I reminded her that she had said I could take the call at home and drive in after it but she ignored that and was still pretty livid. After that I started either getting in before the call or taking the call in my car as I drove in to work to be sure I would be there before or at my start time. Like I said, this was about 4 weeks ago and nothing had been said about it since.

Last Friday I was called in to the head of HR's office. My manager was there and she informed me that she had told her boss I had been late on that day and that she had then told the head of HR the same thing. For half an hour I was berated by these two then given a written disciplinary warning to sign and told that I am now on a 30 day probation period. This bugs me but I know this woman is vindictive and kind of a whack job so I wasn't really too upset about it.

What I was upset about was that she had made me look bad in front of two people who I truly like and respect - her boss and and the head of HR. I mean I liked this man (HR guy) so much that the one time PP visited me at work I made a point to stop by his office and introduce them, later explaining to PP that 'He is my favorite person in the whole company'. In the almost 3 years I have worked here, and before this meeting last Friday, I would visit with him often just to chat and talk about life in general. We originally bonded over being the only non-southerners (he is from Philly) in a very southern, republican, gun-toting, animal murdering; immigrant, black people and Yankee hating company (Not the owners or non-managerial employees but definitely a lot of middle management loudly and proudly voice these views).

Anyway, back to the meeting on Friday. When they were finished with me I asked the HR guy if I could speak to him alone for a moment to which he agreed. I intended to explain what my manager had originally agreed to but I realized at that point it would just sound like a lame excuse/sour grapes so I instead asked him what the 30 probation actually meant. If my manager had another problem with me would I be fired etc. He was so cold and dismissive to me I felt like a piece of crap. But you know, fine. I'll get over it and I assumed he would too. I thanked him for clarifying the terms for me. As I stood up to leave, out of the blue, he said to me, quite loudly and in an unmistakably condescending tone, 'Do you have some kind of emotional problem?'. I was completely stunned. All I could do was stammer 'Uh, No' and make a fast exit.

My question for you guys is does this strike you as overtly sexist? Not only did it seem to come out of nowhere and obviously had nothing to do any tardiness on my part but I can't imagine a male being asked the same question for any reason. I'm so angry he would say something like that. I don't LOVE my job but I'm very good at it and I like working at this company mostly because the people on my team are awesome and the family that own the business are really good people. But now all I can think about is quitting. Am I overreacting?

smoochy-woochy touchy-wouchy, (sunny successor), Tuesday, 21 October 2014 17:09 (nine years ago) link

this sounds fucking awful, and seriously fucked up. is is possible your manager said some nasty things about you behind your back to the HR guy that he now believes?

just1n3, Tuesday, 21 October 2014 17:14 (nine years ago) link

that all sounds very very attackable imo ss

local eire man (darraghmac), Tuesday, 21 October 2014 17:14 (nine years ago) link

what the heck? that's awful

given a written disciplinary warning to sign

was there no process of appeal against this? sounds so wrong to have to sign something that you wholeheartedly disagree with

john wahey (NickB), Tuesday, 21 October 2014 17:19 (nine years ago) link

she bad mouths her superiors and my co-workers to me constantly so yeah I think its a very safe bet she had dissed me to a lot of people.

smoochy-woochy touchy-wouchy, (sunny successor), Tuesday, 21 October 2014 17:24 (nine years ago) link

had you no warning, no option to bring in a witness, to prepare against the complaint?

a month after it occurred and with a case to state you'd be informed of other arrangements?

get it down in writing and in to the head of HR's boss pronto imo

local eire man (darraghmac), Tuesday, 21 October 2014 17:30 (nine years ago) link

The HR's boss is the CEO. I'm not sure I'm brave enough to do that. Ugh so freaking lame.

smoochy-woochy touchy-wouchy, (sunny successor), Tuesday, 21 October 2014 17:33 (nine years ago) link

the only path you've left imo but if not then def to the HR head, despite their dickishness (and unprofessionalism) here

local eire man (darraghmac), Tuesday, 21 October 2014 17:35 (nine years ago) link

dmac otm. Especially get this — I reminded her that she had said I could take the call at home and drive in after it but she ignored that and was still pretty livid — down in writing and distributed to anyone and everyone. She told you to do something a specific way and then punished you for doing it exactly that way. That shit can't fly.

Pict in a blanket (WilliamC), Tuesday, 21 October 2014 17:41 (nine years ago) link

I agree with you guys but its still her word against mine and my word is worth nothing at this point

smoochy-woochy touchy-wouchy, (sunny successor), Tuesday, 21 October 2014 17:45 (nine years ago) link

You're on a 30 day probation with a written disciplinary warning because you came into work half an hour late one day? Even ignoring the mitigating factors, that is fucking ridiculous.

emil.y, Tuesday, 21 October 2014 17:54 (nine years ago) link

ya - i'd have no idea how to handle that! (sorry)

AKA Thermo Thinwall (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 21 October 2014 18:18 (nine years ago) link

My feeling was always that HR is for the company's protection, not yours. They're never going to reprimand your boss, and even if you can get them to take your side, you're still left with the problem that your boss is out to get you.

I don't about QUITTING, but it might be smart to think about how to make a move?

Orson Wellies (in orbit), Tuesday, 21 October 2014 18:23 (nine years ago) link

HR is for protection against overly aggressive and hasty uncorroborated managerial reprimand

the same laws obv don't apply, but ms mac's job is to keep the supervisory/managerial workers from doing damage to the company through behaviour exactly as detailed in sunny's story.

local eire man (darraghmac), Tuesday, 21 October 2014 18:26 (nine years ago) link

Passive-aggressively print out a copy of the SHRM code of ethics and tack it to his door.

bippity bup at the hotel california (Phil D.), Tuesday, 21 October 2014 18:31 (nine years ago) link

sunny that sucks. Unless you do have an "emotional problem" such that you might fall under the protections of the ADA (and I'm not ADA expert so I can't say one way or another what's covered), I don't think you have any legal issues here. But I completely validate how ridiculous and terrible this is. What the hell.

Oh, I don't suppose you have the agreement to take the call at home and then drive to work in an email or anything do you?

carl agatha, Tuesday, 21 October 2014 18:34 (nine years ago) link

hypothetical: what if the "emotional problems" answer was "yes"?!

woah - xpost

AKA Thermo Thinwall (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 21 October 2014 18:36 (nine years ago) link

http://www.eeoc.gov/policy/docs/psych.html

carl agatha, Tuesday, 21 October 2014 18:37 (nine years ago) link

d-mac is otm, also your word is only worth nothing if you don't register anything. there's a way you can speak up about your concerns and pov that emphasizes addressing the problem, "solution-focused", firm about what happened but aimed towards making sure it doesn't happen again. if you can accompany your write-up with some documentation of , maybe after another one-on-one with HR, even if it's only "your word" you might be surprised by the results. people who have to work with awfuls like your boss just want to avoid problems with the awful but there is likely no allegiance there and push-back within acceptable boundaries from you, the victim, can end up shortening the leash of awfuls like your boss a little bit

mattresslessness, Tuesday, 21 October 2014 18:46 (nine years ago) link

also your word is only worth nothing if you don't register anything

i really wanted to say this but i don't want to be telling you how to deal with this when it's you in the situation and not me.

matt 100% otm obv

local eire man (darraghmac), Tuesday, 21 October 2014 19:01 (nine years ago) link

My feeling was always that HR is for the company's protection, not yours. They're never going to reprimand your boss, and even if you can get them to take your side, you're still left with the problem that your boss is out to get you.

I don't about QUITTING, but it might be smart to think about how to make a move?

― Orson Wellies (in orbit), Tuesday, October 21, 2014 1:23 PM (36 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

HR is for protection against overly aggressive and hasty uncorroborated managerial reprimand

the same laws obv don't apply, but ms mac's job is to keep the supervisory/managerial workers from doing damage to the company through behaviour exactly as detailed in sunny's story.

― local eire man (darraghmac), Tuesday, October 21, 2014 1:26 PM (33 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

See differences between US workplaces and every other 1st world country's workplace. Darragh, if I were still in Australia you would be totally on point but since I'm in the US, IO is absolutely OTM.

smoochy-woochy touchy-wouchy, (sunny successor), Tuesday, 21 October 2014 19:04 (nine years ago) link

and re the 'emotional problem'. I don't run around work bursting into tears ever and I certainly didn't in that meeting. (I wont say Ive never cried at work but its never been work related and if I have felt it coming I usually go outside and take a walk - there is NOONE here that can say they have seen me cry)

I thought I was extremely cordially during that meeting considering the ridiculous circumstances.

smoochy-woochy touchy-wouchy, (sunny successor), Tuesday, 21 October 2014 19:09 (nine years ago) link

Yeah that's the most left-field part! Mid-level managers with no people skills don't even surprise me, but the head of HR asking something like that?? If you DID have a documented mental health issue he could have just exposed the firm to legal action! I mean....

Orson Wellies (in orbit), Tuesday, 21 October 2014 19:14 (nine years ago) link

yeah I'm trying to keep that in mind sunny. have they documented policies in place laying out disciplinary procedures you could test against here or anything?

you suck US BTW. tho on the bright side you just got a supermacs

local eire man (darraghmac), Tuesday, 21 October 2014 19:17 (nine years ago) link

US labor law is dreadful.

carl agatha, Tuesday, 21 October 2014 19:27 (nine years ago) link

My wife had a problem very similar to this at Costco. She was able to quit, however. This is a tough one if you like the job, though, and I'd go with io's advice to act with caution. These people really are playing hilariously small stakes Game of Thrones while causing collateral damage to other employees' lives. Through some cocktail of drugs, alcohol, and self-delusion, they still manage to sleep at night.

I can't make my waterface turn into a *fart* (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 21 October 2014 19:48 (nine years ago) link

SS, tell them the "flexible" punchline. It'd be hilarious if it wasn't us.

pplains, Tuesday, 21 October 2014 20:36 (nine years ago) link

You're on a 30 day probation with a written disciplinary warning because you came into work half an hour late one day? Even ignoring the mitigating factors, that is fucking ridiculous.

― emil.y, Tuesday, 21 October 2014 17:54 (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah this. wtf

kinder, Tuesday, 21 October 2014 20:39 (nine years ago) link

as far as my word/her word and documentation goes, at least you have been on those calls, so if need be you can probably point to them somehow, ask that the other participants confirm it, etc? and if you were, then you must have been doing it before your normal start time, which would certainly bolster any claim you might make about having been asked to do this by your manager.

i dunno tho, i'm not in the business world but i just read a thing on their use of internal disciplinary procedures like these, and it made it sound like a routine convenience for them to get rid of people on a pretext covering for other reasons. the way you describe it sure sounds either out of the blue or wackadoodle. obviously it's something to be real cautious about but maybe it's also something to consider being very assertive about? because the procedures like this are easy to exploit against people for bad reasons since they cause fear.

j., Tuesday, 21 October 2014 20:48 (nine years ago) link

ya - that first bit is a really good point. you were actually *working* before your actual start time.

AKA Thermo Thinwall (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 21 October 2014 20:53 (nine years ago) link

this is horrible, sunny.

Starland Vocal Gland (sic), Tuesday, 21 October 2014 21:27 (nine years ago) link

oh they know that. They also know that now I'm faux team lead of the project I often work half an hour to an hour after 6 (my official home time) because, besides doing my actual job on a project that has a super tight deadline, I have to construct a detailed project status email that involves multiple reports, full details on the status of every bug found in the software and the status of modules being developed and tested by the US office, the India office and the other India office which amounts to summing up the daily work of close to 35 people. Not really sure why this isn't a management task but whatever.

smoochy-woochy touchy-wouchy, (sunny successor), Tuesday, 21 October 2014 21:28 (nine years ago) link

I should probably point out that my manager has worked here for all of 10 weeks. Bleh. Im going to shut up now.

smoochy-woochy touchy-wouchy, (sunny successor), Tuesday, 21 October 2014 21:46 (nine years ago) link

Oh yeah. That is definitely why this happened then. Your manager is new and trying to produce some hard evidence of 'managing' for the higher ups to see. This is so similar to my wife's problem that it's almost funny. (But it's not funny. I'm sorry you have to deal with it.)

I can't make my waterface turn into a *fart* (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 21 October 2014 22:03 (nine years ago) link

Both of them are fucking assholes (can you see I've moved from shock to hurt now ANGER). As soon as we are back from Australia in January I am O-U-T

smoochy-woochy touchy-wouchy, (sunny successor), Wednesday, 22 October 2014 01:10 (nine years ago) link

otm

mookieproof, Wednesday, 22 October 2014 01:13 (nine years ago) link

speaking as someone in a managerial position at a tech company, this situation you are in is practically inconceivable. You absolutely should not be treated this way. Putting you on probation for being late once a month ago because you were tending to work matters is completely absurd.

The best thing I can suggest is build a "mitigation plan" that ostensibly addresses whatever problems you are supposed to be fixing, but that documents in detail the exact timeline (including dates/times) of every relevant thing that happened leading up to this so that HR has a documented record of exactly what happened from your POV. You could even frame this in a Problem/Complication/Solution format where the Problem is you need to be at work on time, the Complication is that your manager specifically said you could lead the early morning call from home before coming in to the office (include date/time of this conversation), and the solution being something like no more meetings lead from home if it means you won't be in the office at the specified time. This will show that you are taking concrete action to fix the situation while making it painfully clear that it all stems from specific guidance from your manager.

Free Me's Electric Trumpet (Moodles), Wednesday, 22 October 2014 01:19 (nine years ago) link

^^ brilliant idea, but can't help feeling that getting out after your Aus visit is an even better one. On the other hand, how ridiculous and sad to have to leave a team you really like so those fuckers can play some kind of vindictive 6-year-olds' version of 'management'. If you're prepared to leave, and there's any way of letting the CEO know about this without torpedoing your reference, you probably should.

ljubljana, Wednesday, 22 October 2014 03:14 (nine years ago) link

What did your boss actually say when you reminded her of what she'd told you to do? 'No I didn't'? The mind boggles.

ljubljana, Wednesday, 22 October 2014 03:16 (nine years ago) link

do both ideas. and looking fwd to sunshiney beers in December

Starland Vocal Gland (sic), Wednesday, 22 October 2014 08:32 (nine years ago) link

ljubljana, she didn't respond to it at all. just started talking over me with some kind of drawly, herda hadda jibberish.

sic, YES

smoochy-woochy touchy-wouchy, (sunny successor), Wednesday, 22 October 2014 20:05 (nine years ago) link

sunny that's awful! I'm sorry.

Currently enjoying the sysadmin having a loud monologue about how he and x have minds "like a steel trap" and when they get together "ideas just accelerate" and he tries "to be mindful that people like <several coworkers' names here including two in my office who can quite clearly hear the conversation> just can't keep up"

you giant, giant asshat

club mate martyr (a passing spacecadet), Thursday, 23 October 2014 09:31 (nine years ago) link

I feel bad for butting in now, so ss I really hope things work out for you

club mate martyr (a passing spacecadet), Thursday, 23 October 2014 09:33 (nine years ago) link

Jesus

I've just got to deal with a jaded loudmouth who declares he's jackin it, jackin it in, jackin it up, if it wasn't for his back he'd have jacked it yesterday

how to let him know about masturbation slang while remaining above the ensuing fray is the q

local eire man (darraghmac), Thursday, 23 October 2014 09:36 (nine years ago) link

aps please do butt in! my sitch is just so ridiculous at this point there is really nothing else to say EXCEPT for this:

I had a small victory this morning. My manager had her boss pull all of my entry and exit card swipes and email them to her in prep for my HR take down last week. Yesterday, I was looking for a document I had sent to our printer, which is shared by multiple departments, and what do I find but a sheet of my card swipes printed by my manager. The sheet was dated 10/01 so it had been sitting there for anyone to see for 22 days. The HR guy was out yesterday so this morning (after making a copy for myself) I took the sheet into him, pointed out that it was sensitive and personal information that had been left by the printer for 22 days and that I considered it a serious breach of privacy. He agreed that it was a serious HIPAA (Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act - I work in Healthcare IT) breach and sent out a scathing email to all staff. He didn't mention my manager by name but I did to one person on my team which pretty much means the entire company will know by lunch time. Vindictive? Sure. I'm having a real hard time feeling bad about it though.

smoochy-woochy touchy-wouchy, (sunny successor), Thursday, 23 October 2014 14:03 (nine years ago) link

also, APS, I read A LOT of true crime books and all murderers seem to have two things in common: they like torturing/killing animals and they are obsessed with being the smartest person in the room. I'm not saying this annoying dude is a murderer (I hope that's obvious) but that kind of behavior definitely creeps the hell out of me.

smoochy-woochy touchy-wouchy, (sunny successor), Thursday, 23 October 2014 14:08 (nine years ago) link

Using office gossip to your benefit is so fun. I did that a couple of times when I worked for the state.

carl agatha, Thursday, 23 October 2014 14:13 (nine years ago) link

She's only been working there 10 weeks and she had it in for you 22 DAYS AGO?? That's MAD!

Orson Wellies (in orbit), Thursday, 23 October 2014 15:33 (nine years ago) link

well the bastards have finally done it

after firing the director who altered my job to make it interesting, but far beyond the scope of my job title, they've created a new research manager position that actually describes my job, lists my qualifications as "the qualifications," and are baiting me to apply

all these politics have left such a bad taste in my mouth that i'm not sure if i want to go out for it even if they seem to be handing it to me on a platter

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 23 October 2014 15:50 (nine years ago) link

If you take what's offered, you can always drop it later if you don't care for the results. Sounds like sticking to your current job will be a retrograde move in any event.

Scapa Flow & Eddie (Aimless), Thursday, 23 October 2014 15:58 (nine years ago) link

Hoos, will you get a pay raise?

smoochy-woochy touchy-wouchy, (sunny successor), Thursday, 23 October 2014 22:54 (nine years ago) link

(after making a copy for myself)

this is imo the absolute pinnacle of having regular access to a printer/copier in which people forget their documents

j., Thursday, 23 October 2014 22:59 (nine years ago) link

Hoos, will you get a pay raise?

― smoochy-woochy touchy-wouchy, (sunny successor), Thursday, October 23, 2014 10:54 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah, it'd be a considerable bump. higher than i expected it'd be had they transitioned me into it when they first started promising it last year.

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 24 October 2014 00:42 (nine years ago) link

hey hoos do you know of this company cat a list but with no spaces?

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Friday, 24 October 2014 01:10 (nine years ago) link

i do! i sent them an aspirational resume a couple of years ago, i always pay attention when they're hiring.

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 24 October 2014 14:18 (nine years ago) link

i dunno did i mention this person, and like this isn't on 77 so i mean let's not go crazy here (tho all other internet videos seem to have disappeared)

but

i work with a person in this video.

try to guess which one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6uczQjMaq8

local eire man (darraghmac), Friday, 24 October 2014 20:00 (nine years ago) link

can't really handle any of those

$0.00 Butter sauce only. No marinara. (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 24 October 2014 20:57 (nine years ago) link

1:23

raccoon shipoopi (how's life), Friday, 24 October 2014 21:53 (nine years ago) link

i wish

local eire man (darraghmac), Friday, 24 October 2014 21:55 (nine years ago) link

My coworkers have some rather interesting ideas about Ebola.

tokyo rosemary, Friday, 24 October 2014 23:13 (nine years ago) link

ughhh can't wait until dipshits stop dropping 'ebola' int witty watercooler asides

mattresslessness, Friday, 24 October 2014 23:20 (nine years ago) link

dropping it anywhere near the watercooler is shitty behaviour for sure

local eire man (darraghmac), Friday, 24 October 2014 23:29 (nine years ago) link

I think I got yelled at for not freaking out about it.

tokyo rosemary, Saturday, 25 October 2014 01:20 (nine years ago) link

you'll be sorry when they're all dead

mookieproof, Saturday, 25 October 2014 01:37 (nine years ago) link

Eh, maybe.

tokyo rosemary, Saturday, 25 October 2014 01:44 (nine years ago) link

Ugh my coworkers were in a complete tizz about Ebola. I kept my mouth shut and heD down

smoochy-woochy touchy-wouchy, (sunny successor), Saturday, 25 October 2014 11:30 (nine years ago) link

Oh by the way I got fired yesterday. No explantation, no paper work. After he told me i was bring teimated, rather than allow me to ask why, simply said 'I will not discuss this matter any further.'p
After that he stood by desk and whined that it

smoochy-woochy touchy-wouchy, (sunny successor), Saturday, 25 October 2014 11:41 (nine years ago) link

Past he's going home time (5 on the dot!). Never mind I was an hour late pickings kids up.

smoochy-woochy touchy-wouchy, (sunny successor), Saturday, 25 October 2014 11:44 (nine years ago) link

Oh my God, sunny. I'm so sorry.

Probably too early to even think about it, but I guess you can go after them for many things over all this. No idea whether that would be worth it or not.

ljubljana, Saturday, 25 October 2014 11:59 (nine years ago) link

ffs. sorry sunny. so much bullshit its extraordinary.

local eire man (darraghmac), Saturday, 25 October 2014 12:03 (nine years ago) link

Oh sunny. What nonsense. It's pretty clear they had this planned from way back. What a bunch of rotten people and terrible, shitty managers. God. I'm so sorry!

carl agatha, Saturday, 25 October 2014 12:16 (nine years ago) link

I'm so sorry to hear this Sunny.

raccoon shipoopi (how's life), Saturday, 25 October 2014 12:19 (nine years ago) link

Pp researched this fool and as it turns out I he was a priest and the vice chancellor under the arch diocese in Philadelphia.

There was a grand jury hearing into, guess what??, that's right, father peeds.

I haven't fully read the 500pg grand jury document but one part I did read was testiony about a peed priest who had been raping this boy for three years or so. When the kid turned 12 this priest told the boy he had spoken to his parents and that they thought the rape should definitely continue citing religious reasons. Of course he'd had no contact with the parents at all.

At some point the priest had confessed to the arch diocese what he had been doing. He had to confess 3 times before any action was taken and even then my delightful ex-boss in his role as vice chancellor ignored the victim and parents and instead let the keep his position despite the priest being quite adamant that he he was a peed and would, without question, recommit again.
Obvious this info in unbelievably sickening and shows what an incredibly poor judge of character I am. How someone with a record of lying to a grand jury to protect a pedophile, ie zero ethics, is working a position as director of Human Resources where I assume ethics is a core standard of the position, is just mind blowing to me.
He's complete disinterest in hearing the truth suddenly makes a world of sense.

smoochy-woochy touchy-wouchy, (sunny successor), Saturday, 25 October 2014 12:25 (nine years ago) link

What the fucking fuck?

raccoon shipoopi (how's life), Saturday, 25 October 2014 12:43 (nine years ago) link

Thanks for all your supports sweet ilxors. It means the world to me <3

smoochy-woochy touchy-wouchy, (sunny successor), Saturday, 25 October 2014 12:43 (nine years ago) link

This sounds like a totally messed up company that you're better off being far away from.

wackness unlimited (snoball), Saturday, 25 October 2014 12:45 (nine years ago) link

Agreed

smoochy-woochy touchy-wouchy, (sunny successor), Saturday, 25 October 2014 13:01 (nine years ago) link

DMac, Australian idol in London? How does that work?

smoochy-woochy touchy-wouchy, (sunny successor), Saturday, 25 October 2014 13:09 (nine years ago) link

idk tbph

the same person im referencing has had two appearances on the irish version of the various shows and at least one iirc on british version

all of these are lost to youtube so im guessing they had them taken down

but anyway eh if i'd to guess i suppose it was easier, when filming australian idol, to do it in the emigration lounge of a major london airport so that you could get all of the irish in one place before they fly over and tek er jebs

local eire man (darraghmac), Saturday, 25 October 2014 13:23 (nine years ago) link

God, so sorry to hear this, sunny. Sounds awful. Hope things get better soon.

emil.y, Saturday, 25 October 2014 13:28 (nine years ago) link

sorry for this, sunnysucc.

this horrible, rotten slog to rigor mortis (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 25 October 2014 13:33 (nine years ago) link

You can fire someone with no paperwork and no explanation?? How is that even legal? Or is that because you're in an at-will state (or because I've only worked for legit huge media companies who protect themselves with 100 layers of administration)?

UGH what a collective noun of profanities.

Orson Wellies (in orbit), Saturday, 25 October 2014 13:50 (nine years ago) link

It's really fishy. Yeah, it's an at-work state and the ball is completely in the employer's hand... But, there's always paperwork.

pplains, Saturday, 25 October 2014 14:14 (nine years ago) link

That write up for lateness was totally a feeble attempt to create a paper trail to justify the termination. I'm pretty sure they're going to fight you on unemployment benefits, too, sunny.

carl agatha, Saturday, 25 October 2014 14:21 (nine years ago) link

I mean it's blatantly obvious that they wanted to vacate or eliminate the position so these ding dongs decided to engage in some petty Game of Thrones shit to try to avoid paying unemployment.

I don't know if any of this is illegal though. Shitty on a human and a business decision level but that may be it.

(Not legal advice. Consult a local lawyer. Don't listen to me. I'm an idiot.)

carl agatha, Saturday, 25 October 2014 14:26 (nine years ago) link

My bosses, employment attorneys, say that at the end of the day ALL states are at-will. Some have implied contract laws and other partial protections, but they're weakly enforced and seriously limited by courts' interpretations. Basically in the U.S., unless you have a contract, you can be fired for no reason at all. Paperwork helps the company protect itself from charges of actual illegal firing (e.g., discriminating against people w/ ADA-covered emotional disorders) but it's not required. (Half-baked paralegal conclusions and second-hand lawyer opinions. Don't listen to me. I'm an idiot.)

Anyway I'm sorry, sunny. That's shit. I hope you quickly get a better situation so you can enjoy being free of those people.

Je55e, Saturday, 25 October 2014 17:10 (nine years ago) link

hope you stole some office supplies on the way out

j., Saturday, 25 October 2014 17:13 (nine years ago) link

Maybe you do want to consult an attorney? Especially if they fight your unemployment benefits. nela.org is a good place to start. (I'll butt out now.)

Je55e, Saturday, 25 October 2014 17:16 (nine years ago) link

"do you have emotional problems" reminds me of a lawsuit I helped with where a boss said to an absent-minded employee (who had majorly fucked up), "What do you have Alzheimers?" She did not, but she quit, saying she was forced out, and she sued for disability discrimination.

Je55e, Saturday, 25 October 2014 17:20 (nine years ago) link

hey hoos do you know of this company cat a list but with no spaces?

seems to me that most cats belong on the A list

Scapa Flow & Eddie (Aimless), Saturday, 25 October 2014 17:55 (nine years ago) link

fucking hell sunny :(

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 25 October 2014 18:11 (nine years ago) link

Hope there's no way they can prejudice other firms from hiring you. This does sound shit.
i.e. Hope this can only extend to what sounds like a majorly unfair dismissal without leaving other stains on your work record. Or is that dismissal enough of a stain in itself?

Stevolende, Saturday, 25 October 2014 18:20 (nine years ago) link

that is such utter horseshit – i'm furious on your behalf, SS.

AKA Thermo Thinwall (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 25 October 2014 18:43 (nine years ago) link

Wow, no explanation. I'm sorry to hear that. That is really unprofessional. I take it they didn't make you sign a gag order like I had to when I got fired?

That sucks. You're not alone. At least it was a stupid firing so you don't have to feel bad.

Threat Assessment Division (I M Losted), Saturday, 25 October 2014 19:01 (nine years ago) link

THIS MAKES ME SO MAAAAAD!!! I wonder if you can passive-aggressively e-mail that peed shit to some co-workers and make a thing blow up?

Also yeah they prob are going to fight unemployment but there is like NO WAY they can win, right IANALs?

Belami Young (Stevie D(eux)), Saturday, 25 October 2014 22:05 (nine years ago) link

Each state runs it's own unemployment show. They wouldn't win in Illinois but I really can't say about Arkansas.

carl agatha, Saturday, 25 October 2014 22:22 (nine years ago) link

jesus christ, these morons

, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 22:28 (nine years ago) link

OMG, just heard from a former co-worker that my old office mates are not allowed to use iTunes anymore. It seems someone had a bunch of irreverent stuff like punk, heavy metal, Marilyn Manson, and the South Park soundtrack. They have a new Director, I guess she is very conservative and feels personally mocked and offended by the irreverence. Never mind that the animation department uses stuff like metal music or South Park.

Threat Assessment Division (I M Losted), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 15:48 (nine years ago) link

two weeks pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8xz8xKEFvU

Boss: Ugh. Don't these idiots in Russia and Boobekistan need to be working their fucking jobs instead of playing games like this? Maybe their countries wouldn't be such a mess if they spent more time working.
(Same kind of thing she says about telemarketers and spammers.)

Je55e, Thursday, 13 November 2014 19:36 (nine years ago) link

Also: Ugh. Why would I care if the NSA is listening to me tell my friend Barbara what I'm fixing for dinner?
Other boss: B/c privacy is a fundamental right, whether you're doing wrong or not?
Her: I know, I know -- remember who's the aging anti-establishment hippie around here [her]. Anyway, what do they think? They're gonna catch the next Unabomber listening to my cell phone? Come on.

Je55e, Thursday, 13 November 2014 19:42 (nine years ago) link

Literally (like actual literally not figurative literally) just spit out a drop of tea @ "Boobekistan"

Belami Young (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 13 November 2014 19:50 (nine years ago) link

Me: You registered the firm's website using your personal email address, so that's where they're sending this IMPORTANT PASSWORD RESET LINK.

Her, on the phone to the new webhosting company: That email address is dead and I can't log onto it. I don't understand why you can't just send the information to my work email like I've been asking you to? What is my favorite board game? I don't know..... Scrabble? Pictionary? I don't remember! Why all this cloak and dagger stuff with secret words? Uh-huh... OK.... yes... Ugh OK...... is it Scrabble?

Je55e, Thursday, 13 November 2014 19:54 (nine years ago) link

Pretty convinced that the vast majority of bosses I've known have had, like, one very specific portion of their brain that works well enough to have gotten them into their position and that's otherwise surrounded by a mass of thoroughly necrotized tissue.

It's A Living! (Old Lunch), Thursday, 13 November 2014 19:59 (nine years ago) link

I would like to visit Boobekistan.

kate78, Thursday, 13 November 2014 20:00 (nine years ago) link

When I see her next I'm just going to look in her eyes and say "I wish we were both dead."

Je55e, Thursday, 13 November 2014 20:01 (nine years ago) link

Yesterday she was saying how she *doesn't get* why demographic profiling at airports is a bad thing when it's obvious that a little old lady with a poodle isn't Mohammed Atta or whatever. But the thing is.... she honestly DIDN'T GET IT. When I told her about an Indian friend being unfairly profiled for being brown and having an accent, she said, "Oh! OK, see I can see why racial profiling upsets people then!"

a'sldfja;slkdfj

Je55e, Thursday, 13 November 2014 20:16 (nine years ago) link

i'm not making anything up! this is truth!

Je55e, Thursday, 13 November 2014 20:16 (nine years ago) link

I'm the president of Boobekistan.

carl agatha, Thursday, 13 November 2014 20:21 (nine years ago) link

When I see her next I'm just going to look in her eyes and say "I wish we were both dead."

― Je55e, Thursday, November 13, 2014 8:01 PM (20 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Imagining this made me IRL LOL

carl agatha, Thursday, 13 November 2014 20:21 (nine years ago) link

saying with a smile, or through gritted teeth?

AKA Thermo Thinwall (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 13 November 2014 22:32 (nine years ago) link

Wow, never seen such a clearer example of "it doesnt happen to ME, ergo it doesnt happen!" before. Jesse you are a more patient person than I.

Gumbercules? I love that guy! (Trayce), Thursday, 13 November 2014 23:22 (nine years ago) link

moving day tomorrow

my very disorganized whirling dervish coworker has not packed his cubicle at all & said 'oh i'm going staying til the last possible moment bcz blah blah boring work reasons'

dude theyre shutting shit down at *9am*. guarantee you won't be doing anything but whine about how much packing you have to do

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 14 November 2014 03:42 (nine years ago) link

lolol @ "why can't you just send sensitive password info to this other address that has never been affiliated with the account and you have absolutely no way of verifying?"

This woman is a LAWYER???

Belami Young (Stevie D(eux)), Friday, 14 November 2014 13:16 (nine years ago) link

Being a lawyer does not exempt one from being a total idiot. Would that it were so...

carl agatha, Friday, 14 November 2014 13:21 (nine years ago) link

yeah but I mean LEGALITY and PRIVACY!!!!

Belami Young (Stevie D(eux)), Friday, 14 November 2014 16:32 (nine years ago) link

would that it were so...

carl agatha, Friday, 14 November 2014 17:27 (nine years ago) link

Lawyers can get tunnel vision in their specialty - like many other professionals, I am guessing. And that is bad b/c a lot of cases cross over into various areas of the law, which deserve at least a quick exploration or some curiosity.

This boss definitely gives me agita sometimes and I need to get a new job for that and other reasons, but the biggest problem is that this is such a small office that we get WAY too much exposure to each other. If I worked for or with her at a bigger firm with more staff, I think she would drive me less crazy (though honestly I'm often more entertained than upset by her weirdness).

Je55e, Sunday, 16 November 2014 16:22 (nine years ago) link

When I see her next I'm just going to look in her eyes and say "I wish we were both dead."

saying with a smile, or through gritted teeth?

Neither. Just deadpan. Which I bet carl pictured when she LOLed.

Je55e, Sunday, 16 November 2014 16:23 (nine years ago) link

"you don't know who Jenna Marbles is?? wow!"

really now

proper maoist (DJ Mencap), Monday, 17 November 2014 15:31 (nine years ago) link

Presumably the sister of that guy who threw a custard pie at Rupert Murdoch?

Just noise and screaming and no musical value at all. (Colonel Poo), Monday, 17 November 2014 15:33 (nine years ago) link

She only goes to web addresses via
a) Her "bookmarks," which are the addresses in the drop-down list of frequently-visited sites (she was frantic when the IT contractor repaired her computer and "deleted all [her] bookmarks!")

b) Google search, e.g., for "fedex.com" rather than typing "fedex.com" into the URL hole. So when she found "mysbcglobal.com" she didn't realize it was a fake and was clicking around trying to log into her sbc email (which is now AT&T/Yahoo anyway).

Je55e, Wednesday, 19 November 2014 20:05 (nine years ago) link

she sounds like most of the ppl I deal w/ on a daily basis

Belami Young (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 19 November 2014 20:21 (nine years ago) link

I know I've mentioned the bank manager who I saw type the word "google" into his default MSN Search window.

He looked exactly like Chief Justice John Roberts.

pplains, Thursday, 20 November 2014 02:11 (nine years ago) link

I have searched Yahoo for "Google" and vice-versa, but I had a really good reason which I can't recall at this time.

Je55e, Thursday, 20 November 2014 16:58 (nine years ago) link

I was trying to wire money to a bank in Australia called St. George. He wanted to know what the address was.

I said, probably something like StGeorge.com.au, and he said no, the physical address.

This would be like someone asking you what the street address for MasterCard is.

pplains, Thursday, 20 November 2014 17:45 (nine years ago) link

we're finally at year-end crunch time here, and my boss went to HR to request overtime for us. answer: "no. we think your team has had too much turbulence this year to redline them now."

so our reward for surviving the tumult of the year is that now we have to do the same work without the necessary time made available for us.

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 3 December 2014 21:22 (nine years ago) link

Boss' optometrist office calls and I put them on hold tell her. Boss buzzes back to my desk, "They're probably calling to confirm my appointment."

"....Okay, so you want me to talk to them?"

"Yes, I'm sure they're just calling to confirm my appointment this week -- which reminds me, can you drive me there on Friday?"

Je55e, Wednesday, 3 December 2014 21:27 (nine years ago) link

...

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 23:59 (nine years ago) link

halp

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 6 December 2014 00:33 (nine years ago) link

very close quarters in our new office

coworker has AWFUL breath & she is now so close i can smell it if she talks in my general direction

she is a person who gets progressively louder on the phone to talk over ppl who disagree with her til she is practically shrieking

she NEVER STOPS TALKING
like now that we are almost forced to make eye contact she thinks she can vent to me. i dont even look at or acknowledge her & it doesnt matter
she's like a wind up toy

oh and: all passive agressive all the time

never says thank you if you help her, just doubles down & immediately gives you nine more problems you cant help with so she can reconfirm that she is the only person with any problems ever

hijacks every company meeting to talk about her own tiny problems, like she's the only one in the room

today i wanted to kill myself

SHUT

THE FUCK

UP

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 6 December 2014 00:45 (nine years ago) link

Oh god. I was sitting across from her for the six months before getting laid off. I feel you

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Saturday, 6 December 2014 01:26 (nine years ago) link

;_;

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 6 December 2014 01:32 (nine years ago) link

Passive aggressively offer her a mint.

carl agatha, Saturday, 6 December 2014 01:34 (nine years ago) link

lol

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 6 December 2014 03:09 (nine years ago) link

yikes

$0.00 Butter sauce only. No marinara. (Sufjan Grafton), Saturday, 6 December 2014 07:58 (nine years ago) link

At the Secret Santa present hand out yesterday, someone was given a small bottle of mouth spray.

just like Nietzsche but with jokes (snoball), Saturday, 6 December 2014 10:28 (nine years ago) link

I can't believe that after two years, my old boss still wants to get in touch with me. It's not my fault if they have adjustment problems. I used to care about them, told them to call me if they needed help, but it's been long enough, I've moved on physically and emotionally and I derive no benefit from it. Serves me right for caring too much about the place. However it certainly isn't my job to help you with the very young people they've hired.

Threat Assessment Division (I M Losted), Saturday, 6 December 2014 16:18 (nine years ago) link

Ha well tomorrow there's going to be an awkward situation where either everyone will laugh and say "how silly! why are we even bothering to keep track of such a low cost item?!" OR "snoball you're fired".

just like Nietzsche but with jokes (snoball), Wednesday, 10 December 2014 18:53 (nine years ago) link

(all because some middle manager is all bent out of shape about the escalating costs and increasing overdue-ness of a project that they weren't even in charge of until it was a year past it's scheduled completion date)

just like Nietzsche but with jokes (snoball), Wednesday, 10 December 2014 18:54 (nine years ago) link

aaarrgh, good luck snoball

ornamental cabbage (James Morrison), Wednesday, 10 December 2014 23:15 (nine years ago) link

When I see her next I'm just going to look in her eyes and say "I wish we were both dead."

― Je55e, Thursday, November 13, 2014 8:01 PM

really truly needed an irl lol today. thank you.

sexxx attic (will), Wednesday, 10 December 2014 23:24 (nine years ago) link

why are you using dropbox for work files just put your shit on the fucking server, that's what it's for

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 10 December 2014 23:25 (nine years ago) link

it's a spy move imo

$0.00 Butter sauce only. No marinara. (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 10 December 2014 23:28 (nine years ago) link

I just went through this the other day. Dude wanted to work from home and didn't want to fire up the ol' FileZilla app. I get that.

But then I had to get a middle manager to proofread some stuff. He's the guy who will accidentally put his cursor in the corner and start goddamming left and right because his screen went black what the fuck this ALWAYS happens.

So what I thought was a pretty neutral move on the first guy's part turned into an hour-long ordeal with the second dude.

pplains, Thursday, 11 December 2014 00:33 (nine years ago) link

aaarrgh, good luck snoball

Thanks but it turned out OK. And by OK, I mean the middle manager in question, who isn't even my manager, bottled out of directly confronting me and also called off another middle manager he was planning to use, I don't know, as some kind of attack dog or something. Maybe my e-mail where I told him 'I authorised the relocation of the equipment and who cares anyway because that gear was cheap new and after six months next to worthless now so what of it?' put him off a tad. I feel in two minds about it, on the one hand it's obvs a result that I was able to 'win' this (as much as anyone is able to 'win' a pointless argument with pointless middle management at work) without actually having to go all Henry Rollins, in the Sun Tsu 'win a battle without actual fighting' sense. On the other hand, I kind of feel cheated out of a chance to slap down some silly bugger. All that adrenaline gone to waste. And he's probably going to get fired anyway, because he lacks the requisite laisez-faire 'tude to deal with the shitty mess of a project he's inherited. So I'll not have the opportunity again. FFS I haven't even met the guy in person, at most seen him across the crowded room of the weekly Whispering Olympics AKA the pissweak pep talk management gives to us mud shovellers once a week.

just like Nietzsche but with jokes (snoball), Friday, 12 December 2014 19:03 (nine years ago) link

In other news, the CIO has the personality of a cardboard cutout. On noticeboard of the main office, there's a double page magazine interview with the guy. I can't tell if it's an actual genuine interview from some business magazine, or an interview that's been mocked up by our art department to make the CIO look like he has a personality, or a parody that someone's made as a piss-take.

just like Nietzsche but with jokes (snoball), Friday, 12 December 2014 19:36 (nine years ago) link

We're in the middle of a data migration when lots went wrong, and in the process of fixing it a bunch of key software got *deleted entirely*

I just heard the Brand New VP down the hall (who fired my Favorite Boss a few weeks ago) say "You want an update? Everything is broken, nothing works, and we're all pissed off and stressed."

Had to resist the urge to say WELCOME TO THE ORGANIZATION

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 16 December 2014 22:58 (nine years ago) link

the data needs some help sometimes
http://www.iceposter.com/thumbs/MOV_9feafcbe_b.jpg

$80 is absurd and very ridiculous! (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 16 December 2014 23:07 (nine years ago) link

i guess it was kind of a smartass move but i just made a new name/placard to hang on the outside of my cube which features my first name in 280 point bold and my last name in 48 point. i have been called by my last name so, so many times at my new job (going on 3 months now). i'm used to it happening frequently because i suffer from the curse of having three first names, but somehow it's happening here at a higher order of magnitude.

♪♫_\o/_♫♪ (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 23 December 2014 16:24 (nine years ago) link

lol.

Last week, I asked a coworker in passing whether they were heading up to the meeting and they replied "no, I'm going to use the litterbox".

how's life, Tuesday, 23 December 2014 16:28 (nine years ago) link

god i would love to work with cats

♪♫_\o/_♫♪ (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 23 December 2014 16:29 (nine years ago) link

although herding them all up for a meeting, i mean, well you know

♪♫_\o/_♫♪ (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 23 December 2014 16:29 (nine years ago) link

That used to happen to my former office mate all the time, too. She had two names that Americans think of as Chinese last names that were also one letter away from rhyming and the fucked up permutations of her name that people who had worked with her for seven years would come up with were mind boggling.

But this is the same office that would often send correspondence to the other person on our floor who shared my first name (spelled differently, though) even though our last names were different. This included the time HR came into her cubicle to personally tell her to come to a meeting about a payroll fuck up, and didn't realize that she wasn't me until she saw my name on some documentation and let them know that they had the wrong Jen(n)ifer. She had worked there for something like 20 years at that point.

carl agatha, Tuesday, 23 December 2014 16:29 (nine years ago) link

i've probably moaned about this before, but in my shittier jobs i invariably got called by the same amalgamation of my first initial and bits of my last name. like if my name was lee windsor i'd get called lindsay.

kinder, Tuesday, 23 December 2014 16:34 (nine years ago) link

it's still early on here so i'm trying to correct it while there's still time, but it can be pretty demoralizing. at my last position (same org, different city and subject matter) i was on very friendly terms with pretty much everyone that i saw on a daily or weekly basis, hundreds of people. so to switch here to a new position, knowing no one, and literally half of the interactions are people wandering by my desk saying "Hi Scott, how are you?" and walking off before i can respond...it feels like i failed 9th grade and have been sent back to 5th grade in a different school district

♪♫_\o/_♫♪ (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 23 December 2014 16:35 (nine years ago) link

but it's ok, my cool new placard will fix everything!

♪♫_\o/_♫♪ (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 23 December 2014 16:36 (nine years ago) link

Boss got a bill from the HVAC repair company that included a $45 "Trip/Fuel Surcharge." She wrote them a letter saying that she would not pay $45 for fuel because that was practically a full tank of gas for a 2 mile round trip.

The HVAC bookkeeper called and told me that the $45 was a standard surcharge on all service calls. Their invoices going back to 2011 all show that charge.

The bill is way past due but my boss now wants ME to call the bookkeeper and tell her that $45 for a 2 mile round trip is gouging and she wants an adjustment to reflect a reasonable actual amount of gas used.

Je55e, Tuesday, 23 December 2014 18:20 (nine years ago) link

Last week, I asked a coworker in passing whether they were heading up to the meeting and they replied "no, I'm going to use the litterbox".

This is awesome.

Je55e, Tuesday, 23 December 2014 18:21 (nine years ago) link

The bill is way past due but my boss now wants ME to call the bookkeeper

uuuuuuuuuuuuuuugh
stupid!
annoying!

♪♫_\o/_♫♪ (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 23 December 2014 18:23 (nine years ago) link

It's ultra annoying that she has been paying the surcharges in previous bills but now suddenly has a bee in her bonnet about this one. If this were the first one, I think you could manage to gin up enough righteous indignation but this is absurd.

carl agatha, Tuesday, 23 December 2014 18:32 (nine years ago) link

She's gotten really fucking crabby and negative lately because she has some kind of tricky kidney problems or maybe-you-have-lupus? so she has some excuse but man, what a fucking crabcake.

Je55e, Tuesday, 23 December 2014 18:32 (nine years ago) link

Someone from upper management sent a group e-mail telling us that we could all come in wearing casual dress tomorrow. Unless we're customer facing. Which is practically all of us. Except this doesn't even apply to the half of us (including me) who are off tomorrow. Great motivation job, upper management team guy!

just like Nietzsche but with jokes (snoball), Tuesday, 23 December 2014 18:38 (nine years ago) link

office is closing at three, which is when the full-time employees will depart (the handful that are even here, anyway). if part-timers leave, will they be paid for the rest of their shifts? do they have to sit in front of their computers in an empty office for three more hours (there's nothing to do) to get paid? is it 'legal' to fill out a timesheet saying they worked the missing hours if they didn't?

mookieproof, Tuesday, 23 December 2014 19:06 (nine years ago) link

Guy in my office has spent the past hour on speakerphone to some poor bastard, reading out a 15-page questionnaire question by question and expecting the respondent to have all the answers at his fingertips instead of, you know, emailing him the fucking questionnaire.

you've got no fans you've got no ground (anagram), Monday, 5 January 2015 15:24 (nine years ago) link

p sure i've bitched abt this guy before but he came in late/called out so much that they switched him from FT to PT. He now comes in 3 days a week and he has not ONCE come in on time for all 3 of his days (he will either call out or come in late for at least one of them, often 2 or all 3). When I say "late" I don't mean like 10 or 30 minutes, I mean a minimum of 2 or 3 hours. Often times he'll come in and then take his lunch break an hour later. He also refuses to come in on one of his 4 days off to make up the time because he has his schedule set up the way it is and it works for him and that's the way it is.

He's incredibly defensive and argumentative, nothing is ever his fault, he's the most hilariously pathetic Apple fanboy (it's kind of fun to fuck w/ him actually because he'll get so riled up if you ever insult anything Apple ever), he's just a dummy.

It shouldn't bother me but we started at the same time and used to be pals but our relationship has definitely soured since we started a year and a half ago (seemingly unbeknownst to him). So I have to talk to him all the time and he comes on lunch break w/ us sometimes and it's not really possible to avoid him entirely

but like damn dude why do you still work here?

y kant max read (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 5 January 2015 20:04 (nine years ago) link

I mean we work at a help desk call ctr so there are 100+ other ppl that do the same thing that we do, so he totally just slips under the radar. I kind of want to spitefully bring it up to the HR ppl and be like "why are you letting this fly?"

y kant max read (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 5 January 2015 20:04 (nine years ago) link

several people i work with have intentionally strange laughing styles, and it has become something of a competition of late

jello my future biafriend (roxymuzak), Monday, 5 January 2015 20:05 (nine years ago) link

Do any of them sound like Goofy? because that would be awesome.

earthface, windface and fireface (Aimless), Monday, 5 January 2015 20:06 (nine years ago) link

one of them is somewhat reminiscent of a throatier goofy

jello my future biafriend (roxymuzak), Monday, 5 January 2015 20:07 (nine years ago) link

I say to that coworker, "give us pure unadulterated goofy or go home."

earthface, windface and fireface (Aimless), Monday, 5 January 2015 20:09 (nine years ago) link

or Krusty.

xpost

AKA Thermo Thinwall (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 5 January 2015 20:10 (nine years ago) link

one of them does an extremely high pitched squeaky laugh for long periods of time, and everyone just LOVES IT. but when she is caught by surprise by something funny, she laughs at a normal pitch. super contrived.

jello my future biafriend (roxymuzak), Monday, 5 January 2015 20:19 (nine years ago) link

tempted to scratch marks on my dell every time a certain someone says 'workflow'

languagelessness (mattresslessness), Wednesday, 7 January 2015 17:41 (nine years ago) link

so like ive been promoted and that's great etc. its a panel format, I landed high on it and expected to get my pick of roles, thats great etc. this didnt happen but as it happened I was told I'd be getting a position that I'd have wanted anyway so that was fine, no harm no foul- even if I found out through social media last Thursday night hey I'm not into irl drama it was no skin off my nose. news was due to break officially (along with several other similar appts) on monday- I'm off on exam leave and thats cool I can meet n greet next week when I'm back.

got a text tonight from what I thought would be my new direct manager informing me that I'm being posted to a role that doesnt suit me, my aims or my skills after some last minute reshuffling today.

so now ive to walk in to work tomorrow to kick everybodys arses and I'm not even officially the boss of anyway yet and wtf is wrong with this place ffs.

local eire man (darraghmac), Tuesday, 13 January 2015 22:01 (nine years ago) link

ughhh dmac that blows!

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 13 January 2015 23:36 (nine years ago) link

yeah that's the fucking worst

♪♫_\o/_♫♪ (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 14 January 2015 00:55 (nine years ago) link

let's not get hasty its a pretty big promotion but it was perfect as is and it was v nice without late-stage bullshit tbs

local eire man (darraghmac), Wednesday, 14 January 2015 01:19 (nine years ago) link

but you can agree that late-stage bullshit is the fucking worst and also blows

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 14 January 2015 02:31 (nine years ago) link

He now comes in 3 days a week and he has not ONCE come in on time for all 3 of his days (he will either call out or come in late for at least one of them, often 2 or all 3). When I say "late" I don't mean like 10 or 30 minutes, I mean a minimum of 2 or 3 hours

In every call centre I've worked in, that'd result in termination by now. How's he getting away with that!?

I checked Snoops , and it is for real (Trayce), Wednesday, 14 January 2015 02:43 (nine years ago) link

Because we have 100+ employees and the way it's set up we pick up on two rings so we almost always have a queue of employees waiting for a call (and not the other way around) and it takes so long to train people before they can be thoroughly productive on the phones I guess it's just cheaper to keep him on.

I resent the fuckin' hell out of it though.

Jennifer 8.-( (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 14 January 2015 14:45 (nine years ago) link

Well I was allowed my little strop and coolly told it didnt matter wtf I thought. Got assurances over support, college, training and role and I'll be working with ppl I like so it could be worse /tantrum

local eire man (darraghmac), Wednesday, 14 January 2015 17:05 (nine years ago) link

fuckers

mookieproof, Wednesday, 14 January 2015 17:15 (nine years ago) link

Lyfe tho

local eire man (darraghmac), Wednesday, 14 January 2015 18:12 (nine years ago) link

grrr

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 14 January 2015 21:35 (nine years ago) link

guy staring at his phone got on an elevator with me. i went from 4 to 6. only when the door opened and i was getting off did he notice where he was and start grumbling and pushing buttons on lower floors

not so much annoying as lmao smooth move ex lax

goole, Wednesday, 14 January 2015 21:37 (nine years ago) link

"how are you doing "
"aaaaeeeh not to shabby"

stop saying that you fuckign idiot

Brian Eno's Mother (Latham Green), Wednesday, 14 January 2015 21:44 (nine years ago) link

lol

$80 is absurd and very ridiculous! (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 15 January 2015 03:47 (nine years ago) link

Stop spelling "too" as "to," Latham.

nickn, Thursday, 15 January 2015 04:20 (nine years ago) link

today I taught a coworker how to bookmark a website and when she asked me all I wanted to do was point to the exit and say GET OUT

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 15 January 2015 04:26 (nine years ago) link

wow. so last week a co-worker who i rarely see (she works in a different state but occasionally visits our office) dropped by unexpectedly and asked how i liked my new position. i was just starting into my response when she said, really loudly, "oh you don't want this job. this job SUCKS. you gotta start looking for a job in a new division. you don't want to be here. trust me." shit like that. she's whisper-screaming all of this in the middle of the day and i gave her the STFU, WTF is wrong with you look. our wonderful conversation proceeded for another few minutes like that. she doesn't like the people at my new position, i guess, and she's a very outspoken and loud person. anyway, that happened, then i forgot about it.

just now my supervisor came up to me. turns out that the loudmouthed co-worker told HER boss that i was bored because i didn't have enough to do (?), then the boss told HIS boss (both of these people are in a different division entirely from me) that i didn't have enough to do. That boss told MY boss' boss that I was bored, and then that boss (2 layers above me, in my own division. i'm going to need to bust out an organizational chart for this stupid story) told my supervisor that I didn't have enough to do and was bored. My supervisor just came to me to give me more work because she heard from her boss' boss that i was bored.

GODDAMMIT YOU STUPID ANNOYING CO-WORKERS

♪♫_\o/_♫♪ (Karl Malone), Thursday, 15 January 2015 23:13 (nine years ago) link

if u can break that down to 30 seconds pls?

local eire man (darraghmac), Friday, 16 January 2015 00:08 (nine years ago) link

Wait, so she went and lied to your bosses!??? Surely theres some way to repair this fuckup.

I checked Snoops , and it is for real (Trayce), Friday, 16 January 2015 00:16 (nine years ago) link

Bcs it sounds like she's trying to get you fired.

I checked Snoops , and it is for real (Trayce), Friday, 16 January 2015 00:17 (nine years ago) link

ughhhhhh karl wtf dude that blows!

that coworker needs a dickpunch asap

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 16 January 2015 00:18 (nine years ago) link

um, i think she would need a dick first...

AKA Thermo Thinwall (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 16 January 2015 00:26 (nine years ago) link

oops

well the sentiment still applies

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 16 January 2015 00:35 (nine years ago) link

she had good intentions, i think - to slyly let upper management know that they have a new employee who needs higher profile stuff to do. someone similarly intervened without telling me 5 years ago and ended up helping me out quite a bit in the process. unfortunately she fucked up this time, though.

♪♫_\o/_♫♪ (Karl Malone), Friday, 16 January 2015 01:49 (nine years ago) link

one of my coworkers goes berserk and calls for backup if he has like 3 work tickets to do

"aiaiagh we're getting crushed!"

no we are not you ridiculous simian drip

Brian Eno's Mother (Latham Green), Friday, 16 January 2015 18:50 (nine years ago) link

If I had three calls in my queue I'd be lounging back in my office chair with my feet up on the desk.

You are swimming in spaghetti. Without a paddle. (snoball), Friday, 16 January 2015 19:23 (nine years ago) link

I'm loving this time of year cuz my daily jobs queue is down to about 15 instead of being 60 like normal. Its great. I just do everything reaaallll slowwww. That'll learn em for not letting me have that extra week off.

I checked Snoops , and it is for real (Trayce), Saturday, 17 January 2015 02:08 (nine years ago) link

they are finally adding higher walls to our low cubicles :)

guess who's complaining, all 3 of my neighbors incl mrs
death-breath passive-agressive-chatterbox

i swear my 3 cubicle neighbors run on a generator powered solely by complaining. they'd all be slumped in a heap every morning if one of them wasnt churning away on the hamster wheel of complaint.

i know i am generally a super-kip person, perhaps to a fault & i dont expect that of ppl - i really just do it to try to keep my mental health & chase unwanted black dogs away if possible
but listening to these 3 talk & bitch and bitch and bitch all day it seems so *exhausting* to live your days in that shitty negative mindset.

so in short yay walls

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 17 January 2015 03:58 (nine years ago) link

i am generally a super-kip person

have to be, to be a raiders fan

mookieproof, Saturday, 17 January 2015 04:09 (nine years ago) link

:( true

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 17 January 2015 04:23 (nine years ago) link

Wuah

shit like that would make me update my resume

Otm. IME It seems to be a thing that happens a lot at small to mid size companies. Everyone fearing losing their jobs because some idiot or vindictive person will exaggerate or straight up lie to a supervisor . I've seen it happen to a lot of people including myself. I'm all about being a faceless lemming at a huge corp these days. Like leave me the fuck alone and let me do my shit.

smoochy-woochy touchy-wouchy, (sunny successor), Monday, 19 January 2015 10:50 (nine years ago) link

run on a generator powered solely by complaining. they'd all be slumped in a heap every morning if one of them wasnt churning away on the hamster wheel of complaint.

I swear this is fueled by reality television to give bland people with no hobbies something to talk about.

Evan, Monday, 19 January 2015 15:45 (nine years ago) link

Pro tip for managers: if you're going to pull someone out of a meeting (the only technical person in a meeting for a vaguely "flagship" kinda project) to deal with an "emergency" and ask them to come to a briefing in your room, maybe best not to be chattering away in said office about something else to someone else for 20 minutes instead

club mate martyr (a passing spacecadet), Thursday, 22 January 2015 15:34 (nine years ago) link

deflationgate discussion getting v. heated in the office, no joke

mookieproof, Thursday, 22 January 2015 20:44 (nine years ago) link

yes lets talk about my lunch

jello my future biafriend (roxymuzak), Thursday, 22 January 2015 22:37 (nine years ago) link

yes lets talk about my lunch

rage

don't ask me why i posted this (electricsound), Thursday, 22 January 2015 22:39 (nine years ago) link

this one dude at my work sings les mis songs really loudly - like the entire catalog of songs from the musical, he will go through them all in a very loud, dramatic, operatic voice. with lots of emotion!

hes very closeted and is constantly therefore talking about what girls he likes. including, today, audrey hepburn. "shes the ultimate girl! she can sing, she can dance..." he's been going on about this for a while. i feel for him but dude i am trying to work in complete silence for the rest of my life thanks

jello my future biafriend (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 19:30 (nine years ago) link

- "dude, we know you're gay"

- erie silence for the foreseeable future.

AKA Thermo Thinwall (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 19:34 (nine years ago) link

this one dude at my work sings les mis songs really loudly - like the entire catalog of songs from the musical, he will go through them all in a very loud, dramatic, operatic voice. with lots of emotion!

my god

example (crüt), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 19:36 (nine years ago) link

when he gets to "bring him home" is always a blessed time of day for me tbh because he sings it is in a barely audible, plaintive, cracking voice

jello my future biafriend (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 19:55 (nine years ago) link

i would murder him

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 22:10 (nine years ago) link

Roxymuzak has probably already read this, but it's still fantastic: A thread for Steve n.'s list of songs that his boss sings

When I had one of these constant singers I could only keep myself sane by keeping a notepad open and noting down everything he sang: from wwaaaaay up in this here thread

Songs sung today by the guy in the next office:

'Lo-lo-lo-la-Lola!'

'Rudolph the blue-ringed octopus...'

'Catch the fish and light the fire...'

'Sing songs, sing songs!'

'People... people who need people...'

'I coulda danced all night!'

― James Morrison, Thursday, April 30, 2009 3:37 PM (5 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Songs sung today by the guy in the next office, day 2:

* Unidentified humming tune

* 'Jamie! Oh, Jamie! Jaaaa-meeee!'

* 'Oh yellow rose of Texas...'

* 'Ah-haaaa-haaaa' (unidentified tune)

* 'Wee-doo-dee-doo-dee-doo' (to the tune of 'Living Doll')

* 'Why doooooooooooooooooooooooooooo-do-do-do?' (this was so drawn out, he never got as far as the birds suddenly appearing)

* 'Enchante voulez-vou!'

* 'I'm in the mood for love...'

(At this point I went to the printer and his receipt for Liza Minnelli tickets was on top of my print job)

― James Morrison, Friday, May 1, 2009 3:18 PM (5 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

ornamental cabbage (James Morrison), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 03:19 (nine years ago) link

oh yes, that's one of my top fave ilx threads ever tbh

jello my future biafriend (roxymuzak), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 16:22 (nine years ago) link

We've got a Steve.n's boss type guy here. Tuneless as fuck. Shatner-esque. Also talks to himself, like a running commentary on everything he does.

Just heard:

Annie are you ok are you ok are you ok are you ok?
Are you ok?
Annie?
God it’s nice and warm in here now
You’ve been struck by a smooth operator
Half five already
Are you ok?
Ah ah AAAAAH.
The sun will come out tomorrow.
Are you ok?

there can be only (onimo), Thursday, 29 January 2015 17:40 (nine years ago) link

When the eskimos get here
Come on mighty Quinn

You got the wrong location
said you got the wrong number 909

Dunno if I've got any food here...

Fool me twice
Baby you're as cold as ice
Willing to sacrifice!

I need to leave.

there can be only (onimo), Thursday, 29 January 2015 18:07 (nine years ago) link

I have a co-worker who sings random lines from songs that are currently playing on the radio, although often they will sing lines from completely different songs. All in a loud tuneless voice.

You are swimming in spaghetti. Without a paddle. (snoball), Thursday, 29 January 2015 18:50 (nine years ago) link

the person in the cube next to me sings along a lot. earlier she was singing along to george mcrae and it was sweet and charming. then she said (to herself) "don't ever let your kids grow up. then they start telling you what to do. fucking idiots."

♪♫_\o/_♫♪ (Karl Malone), Thursday, 29 January 2015 19:01 (nine years ago) link

The new guy behind me hums but I have yet to recognise a single thing he's humming. Mainly just arpeggios and tuneless "bom-bom-bommmmm". I think "Here Comes The Sun" may have been attempted at one point.

I warn you guys that at some point within the next two weeks I am going to have an angst meltdown somewhere on ILX about how to concentrate with someone sitting 2 feet behind you who goes bom-bom-bommmm a lot or really just makes any noise at all including those essential to staying alive as a human. Apparently I was born without the "being able to concentrate on my work and not wanting to kill people/myself despite hearing utterly quotidian noises quite quietly" gene.

club mate martyr (a passing spacecadet), Thursday, 29 January 2015 22:46 (nine years ago) link

I am afraid I am That Person in my office. I dont sing, but I talk to myself constantly. I cant fuckin help it. It must annoy the piss out of everyone but no one ever says anything.

I checked Snoops , and it is for real (Trayce), Thursday, 29 January 2015 23:14 (nine years ago) link

Ah yes, most excellent of you to take your shoes off in the office and then put your feet up on the top and drawer handles of every desk you sit near

ornamental cabbage (James Morrison), Friday, 30 January 2015 02:46 (nine years ago) link

I cant fuckin help it

how come

mookieproof, Friday, 30 January 2015 03:00 (nine years ago) link

*shrug*. I do it at home, too. In public I sort of mutter to myself. Its weird and compulsive.

I checked Snoops , and it is for real (Trayce), Friday, 30 January 2015 04:01 (nine years ago) link

c'mon mookie get with it n00b

Ha PP you'd probably hate working with me, I have a dreadful tendency to mutter to myself when I work :/
― Trayce, Monday, November 10, 2008 7:39 PM

“why does this women that sits near me have to verbalize everything that pops into her brain? constant string of mumbles and comments!! stop please!!”

Oh dear, I'm afraid I am That Person in my office :/
― I'm Rick Wakeman, bitch! (Trayce), Wednesday, June 17, 2009 10:46 AM

And I know I'm an annoying co-worker - I mutter to myself a lot and swear at things.
― Dearth Disco (Trayce), Thursday, October 1, 2009 4:33 PM

Ugh I am the loud one in my office but I cant help it, I've gone half-deaf and I'm having trouble modulating my volume :(
― ceci n'est pas une pipecock (Trayce), Monday, October 5, 2009 9:47 AM

I've been known to do that by accident momentarily. The tapping on desk at least. Then I remember where I am and stop, sheepishly. I also play air-keyboards on the edge of my desk along to Telefon Tel Aviv albums.
― gnarly gnarlingtons in my life (Trayce), Wednesday, March 2, 2011 10:31 AM

Have just realised Ive been drumming on my desk like mad to M83 for the last 20 mins, and I have become the annoying coworker lol.
― gnarly gnarlingtons in my life (Trayce), Wednesday, March 9, 2011 4:16 PM

“I tend to talk to myself a LOT at work, especially if I'm doing something particularly taxing. Am I an annoying coworker?”

Oh god I do that too :/
― gnarly gnarlingtons in my life (Trayce), Wednesday, March 9, 2011 7:05 PM

I talk to myself at work all the time :/
― The man who mistook his life for a FAP (Trayce), Wednesday, May 25, 2011 4:58 PM

Not going to make a big deal out of it though. I'm sure I am equally annoying the way I mutter to myself all the live-long day.
― Rameses Street (Trayce), Friday, August 12, 2011 10:25 AM

Would that I could work from home. Then I could post on here and bitch about myself.
― Silent Hedgehogs (Trayce), Wednesday, August 31, 2011 1:58 PM

oochie wally (clean version) (sic), Friday, 30 January 2015 04:44 (nine years ago) link

Haha I knew I'd mentioned this at least twice before but yeesh.

I checked Snoops , and it is for real (Trayce), Friday, 30 January 2015 04:52 (nine years ago) link

my least favorite ilx feature

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 30 January 2015 05:07 (nine years ago) link

ha Trayce, I skipped some and stopped at 2011 because someone got out of the shared .xls I was waiting for

oochie wally (clean version) (sic), Friday, 30 January 2015 05:12 (nine years ago) link

Grrr :P

I checked Snoops , and it is for real (Trayce), Friday, 30 January 2015 06:45 (nine years ago) link

I'm sure I've mentioned this one before but I can currently hear fingernails being clipped from the other side of the office. Same guy once started flossing his fucking teeth while I was talking to him.

Now playing:

The madame rings the chapel bell
C'est la vie
You never can tell

there can be only (onimo), Friday, 30 January 2015 13:41 (nine years ago) link

just went off on my coworkers/underlings

they got real quiet and now they are whispering in private corners

jello my future biafriend (roxymuzak), Friday, 30 January 2015 22:23 (nine years ago) link

ARRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGHHHHHHHH

1. i received an email telling me that i had to submit a financial disclosure/conflict of interest form.
2. no big deal. i had to fill this same form out every year when i worked in the DC office.
3. i filled it out, and brought it to the person that was designated to receive it for our office.
4. he expressed some shock that i was turning it in. most employees in this office aren't required to fill it out. we realized that i was probably asked to fill it out (by someone in DC) by mistake.
5. since he has a pile of these forms that he has to review and doesn't want to add to the pile, he said that i shouldn't turn it in. he asked me to just run this by my neverending hierarchy of bosses to confirm that i don't need to do this.
6. i email my boss to let her know that i've been asked to fill out this form, but it's a mistake and i'm just letting her know.
7. boss asks me to get it in writing from the guy in items 3-5 that he didn't think i had to fill out the form.
8. i email the guy in items 3-5 (and now 8) to let him know that my boss has asked me to get it in writing from him that i don't need to fill out the form.
9. the guy asks me to get in writing, from my managers, a precise description of my job duties during 2014. this is worse than it sounds because i worked in two different offices in 2014, in totally different positions with different management chains, and both of them, as evidenced by this fucking absurd series of events, have trouble doing even the most simple things without it devolving into kafka's worst short story.
10. THE FORM IS BLANK. I DON'T HAVE ANY ASSETS OR LIABILITIES THAT ARE REPORTABLE. THE FORM IS BLANK, EXCEPT FOR MY SIGNATURE.

i don't know how much longer i can take shit like this. i know it's minor but absolutely EVERYTHING must be a nightmare

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 10 February 2015 19:25 (nine years ago) link

here's my draft:

"hello former boss, i'm writing because i tried to fill out the financial disclosure/conflict of interest form, but when i attempted to turn it in i was told that it was a mistake to turn it in, then my current boss asked the guy to put it in writing that it was a mistake, and then the guy asked me to get a "precise" accounting of my job duties during 2014 to confirm that i'm not doing anything important and it doesn't matter what kind of conflicts of interest i have because i'm going fucking nowhere in this shithole meaningless job. also the form is completely blank because i have nothing to report. hope your 2015 is going well! xoxoxoxo"

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 10 February 2015 19:28 (nine years ago) link

These assholes need to be addressing each other directly instead of using you as their go-between errand boy.

Aimless, Tuesday, 10 February 2015 19:32 (nine years ago) link

i just got a call from one of the primary actors and he managed to escalate the absurdity even more, somehow. i can't even type out in a smartass fashion what just went down. i am going to do my best not to jump out the window like it's a early 70s PSA on the dangers of LSD and PCP

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 10 February 2015 19:34 (nine years ago) link

feel like i would secretly turn it in to that dude who said he didn't want it when he's not at his desk, and then refuse to accept it back if he tries to give it back. then you can tell the bosses "i turned it in, idk" and do the hands dusting off gesture while turning back to your computer

jello my future biafriend (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 10 February 2015 19:36 (nine years ago) link

That's a good solution. Or just drop it because nobody will remember tomorrow that it's something to follow up on.

That whole situation reminds me of working for the state so much that it's making me a little dizzy.

about a dozen duck supporters (carl agatha), Tuesday, 10 February 2015 19:51 (nine years ago) link

roxy you have a specific genius for bureaucracy.

Orson Wellies (in orbit), Tuesday, 10 February 2015 19:52 (nine years ago) link

it's too late to do that, unfortunately. now i'm stuck in the middle of a fight between two offices. as they conduct the pettiest battle imaginable, meanwhile, i'm tasked with drafting up my duties from last year and getting signatures from both offices.

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 10 February 2015 19:55 (nine years ago) link

THE FORM IS BLANK

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 10 February 2015 19:55 (nine years ago) link

I'm telling you. Just don't do it. Say you can't get to it today and then everybody will forget.

about a dozen duck supporters (carl agatha), Tuesday, 10 February 2015 19:56 (nine years ago) link

agree

jello my future biafriend (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 10 February 2015 20:02 (nine years ago) link

i agree in theory but in real life i've received 4 different emails about this from 3 different offices in the past 30 minutes and i can hear people arguing about it in a nearby room

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 10 February 2015 20:02 (nine years ago) link

i seriously can't do this much longer. a lot of people helped me out to get this job transfer but i don't think i'm going to make it to the year mark

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 10 February 2015 20:03 (nine years ago) link

patiently awaiting theformisblank.biz

It's strange to me too. But we're talking about praxis, man. (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 10 February 2015 20:38 (nine years ago) link

Just hand in a blank form? I'm with Roxy. Email blast all parties and say "no reportable duties, form signed and on X's desk". Shred form. Set fire to office. Leave town.

I checked Snoops , and it is for real (Trayce), Wednesday, 11 February 2015 00:03 (nine years ago) link

These assholes need to be addressing each other directly instead of using you as their go-between errand boy.

― Aimless, Tuesday, 10 February 2015 19:32 (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

This. this happens to me all the fucking time, here's what I would do:

1) Email AND instant message (if possible) all parties, so it's documented multiple ways.

2) Indicate that both parties are providing differing instructions,and politely ask if both parties can meet to discuss, as you are merely the messenger, and it is causing you extra work. Offer to attend if need be, but place the onus on them to solve the problem.

3) State, politely, that you are going to hold off doing anything with the form until you receive further instruction, and attempt to lock down who that instruction will come from (so there's no chance of thinking you're in the clear only to have this happen again).

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Wednesday, 11 February 2015 00:18 (nine years ago) link

the same thing happened to me in December. we're customer service, there was a problem with our document imaging system that the Imaging group discovered, and which required an IT team to fix (and a form to be filled out). instead of them doing it themselves, they came to us, asking us to create the form. Ok, fine, I create the form, and the IT group goes "nope, it's set up fine", and closes it. Imaging group says "nuh uh! nuh uh!".

I blew up at the IT group and said in pointed words "can you PLEASE just get together with the IMAGING team and hash this out"? Three hours later it was fixed, after a MONTH of back and forth.

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Wednesday, 11 February 2015 00:21 (nine years ago) link

"" "" co-patients

had an exchange with a horrible woman who shouts all night at nurses out of her room as I filled my water jug opposite her door. she's been keeping everyone awake.

"what's going on" she bossed me.

"hospital, mrs, everything's going on"

"you're all money men. money men!"

"makes the world go round mrs"

"fix my pillows!"

(very quietly, just for her) "fuck off" then I tapdanced away

local eire man (darraghmac), Wednesday, 11 February 2015 21:55 (nine years ago) link

two good co-patients - the one who suddenly in the middle of the night suddenly started going PAIN! PAAAAIIIIN! ooh PAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIN! for a v long time. the nurses took her away after about two hours and then she died.

then after a particularly serious operation on ME there was an old dialysis patient opposite who said "have they got rid of it?" and I said "well, they can't be certain but they seem fairly optimistic." and he said "well they would say that it's very unlikely you know" and I called him a po-faced Jeremiah which seemed to satisfy him. I'm fine btw u boring morbid cunt.

this isn't a annoying fellow patients thread I know but whatever.

Fizzles, Friday, 13 February 2015 21:41 (nine years ago) link

Fizzles man sending my best wishes for a speedy recovery!

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 14 February 2015 11:04 (nine years ago) link

ey fizzles didnt realise you were in: speedy getting out

local eire man (darraghmac), Saturday, 14 February 2015 11:05 (nine years ago) link

fizz, was that a reminiscence or are you in? If the latter & you're in London, do you want a visit, supplies, books, etc?

woof, Saturday, 14 February 2015 11:14 (nine years ago) link

oops sorry it does sound like a reminiscence.

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 14 February 2015 11:23 (nine years ago) link

fond reminiscences delivered drunkenly I'm afraid, hence possibly the confusion. gratified at the response tho. feel there must be something minor coming up I can make a meal of to get books and well wishes and will post here with full details when that happens.

Fizzles, Sunday, 15 February 2015 14:38 (nine years ago) link

get well soon fizzles

no love deb weep (nakhchivan), Sunday, 15 February 2015 14:42 (nine years ago) link

sozzles to hear fizzy, feel better

local eire man (darraghmac), Sunday, 15 February 2015 14:46 (nine years ago) link

aw you fuckers.

Fizzles, Sunday, 15 February 2015 14:58 (nine years ago) link

feel there must be something minor coming up I can make a meal of to get books and well wishes and will post here with full details when that happens.

No need to go that much trouble we are a friendly lot round here.

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 15 February 2015 15:07 (nine years ago) link

Whassup Fizz? Nowt serious??!?!? Got to keep the Tom Quotient up, man.

Nut-bloody-rageous (Tom D.), Sunday, 15 February 2015 15:17 (nine years ago) link

sudden onset case of the vapours requiring urgent airlift of good scotch and an advance review copy of the new tom mccarthy

no love deb weep (nakhchivan), Sunday, 15 February 2015 15:21 (nine years ago) link

ooh, you bunch of arseoles, I'm sitting here drinking a glass of filthy wine laughing at ilx. I'm fine apart from the usual sketchiness.

and to get it back on track and cap it off I seem to have got mixed up with a v unannoying co-worker who also happens to be technically married.

as my brother said last week - bit of a backward step isn't it? getting pissed then drunk texting a married woman then sitting round all day eating cereal and watching cricket? I said not.

Fizzles, Sunday, 15 February 2015 15:37 (nine years ago) link

a bottle of laphroaig is whispering sweet nothings beside me, although 4pm is late for a skalk

no love deb weep (nakhchivan), Sunday, 15 February 2015 15:45 (nine years ago) link

I once, as an experiment you understand, decided to a decent-sized glass of whisky - macallans ten almost certainly possibly highland park - when I got up. "what's it like I wonder" I said to myself.

after having it I was filled with an enormous creative and social energy. I got ready and went out filled with a thousand plans. when I got to central London I suddenly felt more tired than I had done in my life ever before. and quickly returned home. where I laid on the bed listening in a totally unengaged way to a South Africa - england test.

my new boss is a dick.

Fizzles, Sunday, 15 February 2015 15:55 (nine years ago) link

ooh ive often wanted to do that, maybe a treble of something nice before a wandering of dublin, that sounds like a nice next day off that does

local eire man (darraghmac), Sunday, 15 February 2015 17:40 (nine years ago) link

Och theres nothing worse than booze that wears off at like 3 in the afternoon. Waste of a day.

I checked Snoops , and it is for real (Trayce), Sunday, 15 February 2015 22:37 (nine years ago) link

Yeah the only way out of that is straight through it.

about a dozen duck supporters (carl agatha), Monday, 16 February 2015 02:22 (nine years ago) link

This is why I never drink at lunchtime anymore.

I checked Snoops , and it is for real (Trayce), Monday, 16 February 2015 03:52 (nine years ago) link

i just get really tired really quickly if i start early

don't ask me why i posted this (electricsound), Monday, 16 February 2015 04:01 (nine years ago) link

This is why I never drink at lunchtime anymore

^^^ this was how i knew i had become old

as verbose and purple as a Peter Ustinov made of plums (James Morrison), Monday, 16 February 2015 22:09 (nine years ago) link

especially now that that long exhausted post-drink afternoon stretch involves caring for a highly energetic 2yo

as verbose and purple as a Peter Ustinov made of plums (James Morrison), Monday, 16 February 2015 22:10 (nine years ago) link

last fall was leading project where my direct report missed all of her deadlines but one, to the point where other people (including me had to finish her work). then she went on leave (for valid reasons) on the day training was supposed to start, which left me to fill in at the last minute (FOR AN ENTIRE MONTH).

finally gave up...said I can't do this anymore to the department lead, and went back to my old position. would rather do work than delegating it.

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Friday, 20 February 2015 02:28 (nine years ago) link

probably my first case of work-induced depression ever

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Friday, 20 February 2015 02:29 (nine years ago) link

yeah, I've been managing a bunch of fairly junior employees this year and have spent an increasing amount of time holding hands and cleaning up messes. It is wearing very thin at this point. I've had similar thoughts of moving away from management and going in a more technical direction.

Free Me's Electric Trumpet (Moodles), Friday, 20 February 2015 02:47 (nine years ago) link

holding hands and cleaning up messes sums it up exactly. I have mucho respect for anybody who can do it and stay sane - some people are built for it, but not me. I was conned by the unusually smooth first year and a half in the position.

hopefully if you make that decision there's something better on the technical side waiting for you!

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Friday, 20 February 2015 02:54 (nine years ago) link

I often overhear the lass nearby me who is managing our recent move to an offshore call centre. Customers hate these things: they get staff with accents who are going off scripts and have minimal clue. And boy oh boy do these staff seem useless. Theyre Fijian, and despite many months of training and admonishment they still seem to be just as useless as when they started - tickets are barely readable english, customers complain about useless troubleshooting, poor english and rude tone on calls. I'd hate to be that manager - she's tried everything. Not a lot one can do remotely tho I guess.

I checked Snoops , and it is for real (Trayce), Friday, 20 February 2015 03:25 (nine years ago) link

(without meaning to stereotype, there's also a cultural problem because islander folk just dont take shit very seriously, life is pretty laid back - and that comes over very strongly in the lack of GAF of their work ethic)

I checked Snoops , and it is for real (Trayce), Friday, 20 February 2015 03:26 (nine years ago) link

lol @ expecting offshored call centre worker to GAF

A MOOC, what's a MOOC? (Bananaman Begins), Friday, 20 February 2015 11:34 (nine years ago) link

jfc it's gotten to the point where I'm having panic attacks in anticipation of Monday.

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Sunday, 22 February 2015 22:20 (nine years ago) link

Mostly cuz I'm a month overdue rolling off my last project as a manager and no end date in sight.

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Sunday, 22 February 2015 22:22 (nine years ago) link

Oh good, a poster I spent ages working on and that just needed one much-delayed name dropped in to a space I'd carefully left marked in order to be made complete was then mucked around with and "redesigned" by my boss when she was putting that name in on my day off. And now she's eating a big plate of peanut-buttered toast at her desk a metre away which is making my feeble anaphylactic throat and heart hurt.

as verbose and purple as a Peter Ustinov made of plums (James Morrison), Wednesday, 25 February 2015 02:25 (nine years ago) link

Um if youre deadly allergic to nuts she shouldnt be allowed to have them in the office surely? :| Also she sounds like a dick.

I checked Snoops , and it is for real (Trayce), Wednesday, 25 February 2015 02:38 (nine years ago) link

Yeah I'd go to HR immediately.

fields of salmon, Wednesday, 25 February 2015 14:37 (nine years ago) link

I also think it's gross when people bring dogs in the office. I mean, yay, stress relief, but boo asthma.

fields of salmon, Wednesday, 25 February 2015 14:37 (nine years ago) link

people only bring crying babies to my office :(

bizarro gazzara, Wednesday, 25 February 2015 14:39 (nine years ago) link

We get both.

One manager brought her dog to her open office. Went to an afternoon meeting. Mutt whimpered for two hours straight.

pplains, Wednesday, 25 February 2015 14:44 (nine years ago) link

I love office dogs and office babies/kids, but totally totally understand why people wouldn't.

Not cool to have to put up with peanut butter in your area when you're allergic, though.

from batman to balloon dog (carl agatha), Wednesday, 25 February 2015 15:42 (nine years ago) link

'peanut butter in your area' hee hee

bizarro gazzara, Wednesday, 25 February 2015 16:03 (nine years ago) link

Careful with all those dogs around.

pplains, Wednesday, 25 February 2015 18:30 (nine years ago) link

Ha.

On the allergy tip once my office decided to have the stupidest theme day ever: "wear tons of perfume/cologne", with prizes for guessing the smells, most obnoxious scent etc. I am not even joking. I think I privately emailed my boss and said "are you kidding? I'll end up with a migraine, i am kind of allergic to strong perfumes" and they called it off and kind of made it clear I was the spoilsport which was embarrassing :(

I checked Snoops , and it is for real (Trayce), Wednesday, 25 February 2015 23:25 (nine years ago) link

that sounds like my worst nightmare jfc what a horrible idea

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 25 February 2015 23:35 (nine years ago) link

That's insane. My former workplace office (current employer but I work from home bitchez) had signs up asking everyone not to wear strong perfume.

On the 'stupid, annoying coworkers' tip, I can't believe I have never mentioned this guy here, but I once had a 'manager' who was the sales-iest, cheesiest doofus ever whose 'thing' was guessing women's perfumes to impress them. I remember on his first day he did it to one of the cool office ladies who had a lot of political power in that company, and he kind of did it subtly in conversation and she thought it was cool, and it came off okay. Then he tried to do it with every single other woman he met in the office. It was such an obvious, lame 'trick' and I hated him instantly.

franny glasshole (franny glass), Wednesday, 25 February 2015 23:46 (nine years ago) link

We have a suggestion box on our company intranet where we are given the option to submit comments signed, or anonymously. This is the fun that you get to have when you attempt to submit anonymously.

http://i.imgur.com/XY6bxEG.png
http://i.imgur.com/05Vy5bA.png
http://i.imgur.com/FePYJWd.png
http://i.imgur.com/qSuLVP6.png
http://i.imgur.com/OToDtID.png

gybe horses (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 2 March 2015 18:21 (nine years ago) link

what kind of fucking joke is this?

gybe horses (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 2 March 2015 18:22 (nine years ago) link

do you work at clickhole?

you can buy your hair if it won't grow (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 2 March 2015 18:29 (nine years ago) link

that can't be. . . real?

I mean WAHT?

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Monday, 2 March 2015 18:32 (nine years ago) link

are you fucking kidding me? that is the most ludicrous thing I have ever seen.

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Monday, 2 March 2015 18:32 (nine years ago) link

I made a strongly worded addendum to my anonymous submission letting them know that this was Not Okay.

gybe horses (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 2 March 2015 18:34 (nine years ago) link

I love loaded choices - 'we let you keep the freedom of anonymity but here's why it's horrible and nobody should do it'

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Monday, 2 March 2015 18:41 (nine years ago) link

my company briefly had an employee's corner board that served a similar purpose but we weren't given the option of anonymity. So of course when we posted we had to use restraint (and no doubt many didn't because of the non-anonymity factor), and a few times I got a 'talking to' because of something innocuous I posted as I 'didn't go through proper channels'.

the other thing that pissed me off recently is the company survey. for years, I had responded positively in the survey, as my dept is one of the few that is still run well, so I've been pretty chipper for 4 years. This last year was not so rosy (for outside reasons), so I responded honestly about why I wasn't enjoying my job lately . At the end, they gave us follow-up questions based on our responses and the first thing was about my lack of engagement and they asked 'are you aware of how your lack of engagement is affecting other employees'.

Basically wrote a long screed (as it was thankfully anonymous) saying how lame it is to suggest we're to blame for our own misery, as if it is outside of the realm of possibility that the company could be contributing to it.

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Monday, 2 March 2015 18:45 (nine years ago) link

That series of suggestion box responses is just freaking bizarre.

from batman to balloon dog (carl agatha), Monday, 2 March 2015 18:58 (nine years ago) link

surprised there wasn't another box that said "we respect your request to remain anonymous. In this instance, we have respectfully declined and have traced your machine via IP. We will take your suggestion under consideration, and will schedule a follow-up meeting to determine why you didn't want to share your name."

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Monday, 2 March 2015 18:59 (nine years ago) link

last box is just "Sorry, ___name___, but we have to let you go."

you can buy your hair if it won't grow (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 2 March 2015 19:33 (nine years ago) link

thats incredible, incredible

local eire man (darraghmac), Monday, 2 March 2015 19:35 (nine years ago) link

box 1: "all suggestions are valid, even anonymous ones"
box 2: "it is possible you wish to remain anonymous because you fear retaliation or ridicule"
box 5: "FINE BE THAT WAY, ANON, BUT REMEMBER: NOBODY GIVES A FUCK ABOUT YOUR COWARDLY ANON OPINIONS"

gyac, Monday, 2 March 2015 22:06 (nine years ago) link

The Monster Co-Worker at the End of the Comments

pplains, Monday, 2 March 2015 22:22 (nine years ago) link

I love how it ends with "anyway we dont GAF about your anon comments lol so go for your life"

I checked Snoops , and it is for real (Trayce), Tuesday, 3 March 2015 02:56 (nine years ago) link

I KNOW. I anonymously told them that this was manipulative, childish, and spiteful and that we can make decisions for ourselves and that we're not children.

gybe horses (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 3 March 2015 03:07 (nine years ago) link

jesus, if you hadn't screencapped that i would not have believed it tbh

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 3 March 2015 03:12 (nine years ago) link

That's incredible.

Is the insinuation intentional here??

"we would regard it as morally repugnant to ridicule you for for making any (signed) suggestion"

a girl with colitis (Je55e), Tuesday, 3 March 2015 03:40 (nine years ago) link

Yeah is the tone meant to be playful and jokey, or is it serious??

I checked Snoops , and it is for real (Trayce), Tuesday, 3 March 2015 03:49 (nine years ago) link

i don't even fuckin know but like how deluded do you have to be to think that employees want to remain anon because they're going to be OPENLY RIDICULED BY UPPER MANAGEMENT and not because oh idk they don't want to be perceived as critical of the company that employs them bcz how could THAT possibly have ANY negative consequences

gybe horses (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 3 March 2015 04:33 (nine years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1S7BGDpVotg

gybe horses (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 3 March 2015 04:34 (nine years ago) link

if you don't mind me asking how big is your company (# of employees?)

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 3 March 2015 04:37 (nine years ago) link

150-200 maybe?

gybe horses (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 3 March 2015 04:53 (nine years ago) link

lol this is the line that really kills me:

After a brief period of regret about a lost opportunity to understand something that may be important, we will continue as though you never said a thing.

drash, Tuesday, 3 March 2015 15:04 (nine years ago) link

They're so certain they can't and won't understand.

a girl with colitis (Je55e), Wednesday, 4 March 2015 18:02 (nine years ago) link

that's so insane.

i remember before there was a big "anonymous survey" where i worked, in a regional bbc office about 7/8 years ago. but after my team filled it out we realised it was divided by the section you worked in, and the line managers of each section were sent the comments. tv and radio had about 30 people each, but the web team i was on was just 4 of us including the line manager whom i expect everyone else tore to pieces too.

Junior Dictionary (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 4 March 2015 20:24 (nine years ago) link

I feel like I'm interrupting a big discussion here which I will read later but I have to get this out. I sent an email to a person asking if she was the the correct recipient and she wrote back "Yuppy Guppy!!!!!". What? Is that even a saying?

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Wednesday, 4 March 2015 20:27 (nine years ago) link

OMG I can't handle that anonymous thing. It's too ridiculous!

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Wednesday, 4 March 2015 20:29 (nine years ago) link

xpost i've never seen that but it sounds kinda like when ppl reply YEPPERS!

disgusting savages basically

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 4 March 2015 21:33 (nine years ago) link

yuppy.... guppy? Dear god in heaven.

I checked Snoops , and it is for real (Trayce), Wednesday, 4 March 2015 22:38 (nine years ago) link

"I'm sorry, I appear to have accidentally emailed a high school girl by mistake, please disregard"

I checked Snoops , and it is for real (Trayce), Wednesday, 4 March 2015 22:39 (nine years ago) link

It's the Ned Flandersization of America, I tell ya!

nickn, Thursday, 5 March 2015 02:06 (nine years ago) link

sounds australian tbh

oi in the arvo, yuppy guppy?

aye mate

mookieproof, Thursday, 5 March 2015 02:16 (nine years ago) link

i think you oughta write back swearing like a sailor just on general principle

j., Thursday, 5 March 2015 02:23 (nine years ago) link

this one colleague, who is a friend, but has been increasingly disappointing of late, seems to think it's acceptable to always get things wrong the first time and just fix it afterwards.

In the last week, I gave her two items to work on where I actually prepped everything for her in advance (all she had to do was execute), and she screwed *both* up due to not reading the instructions, so I had to go back and correct her (even more frustrating is it took me two weeks of nagging to get her to even respond to begin with).

Then today, I find out this assignment I gave her to execute has been done incorrectly by 60% of the team she presented it to for weeks, which means she probably didn't train them all (or do a good job of it).

thankfully I'm off the project other than a few loose ends but I keep wondering like, wouldn't it be easier if you just got it right the first time?

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Friday, 6 March 2015 21:43 (nine years ago) link

this time I had to ask her to fix it cos I spent over 50+ hours over the last two months volunteering my team to clean up their messes and frankly don't have it in me anymore. kind of bummed that I worked 65+ hour weeks in December to ensure this thing went well cos I had no help and they have *five managers* and still can't operate their center.

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Friday, 6 March 2015 21:45 (nine years ago) link

maybe she was going to do it right, but then she thought 'we are all stardust'

Team Foxcatcherwatcher (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 6 March 2015 22:26 (nine years ago) link

who is a friend, but has been increasingly disappointing of late

hey ppl dont talk about friends like this tbph maybe try turning of the mgmt speak its nagl

post you had fecund thoughts about (darraghmac), Friday, 6 March 2015 22:50 (nine years ago) link

offered without rancour but srsly now

post you had fecund thoughts about (darraghmac), Friday, 6 March 2015 22:51 (nine years ago) link

ppl do learn & take in info differently
i like writing instructions but it's key to know how much writing is too much and some ppl just need to see what to do rather than read it, they will never read a thing you write

patience, revision, patience etc

not saying u did anything wrong

b

but

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 6 March 2015 23:13 (nine years ago) link

ignore the "b but" lol

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 6 March 2015 23:13 (nine years ago) link

Mgmt speak gtfo dude I'm not this persons manager. Srsly I know I'm persona non grata here but like when I give someone a link to a page I want them to post something and they instead ignore the link and post it in the same doc I am pretty sure I didn't fuck up.

(Not directed at you Vege.)

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Saturday, 7 March 2015 02:50 (nine years ago) link

wonder what yr next screen name will be

mookieproof, Saturday, 7 March 2015 03:12 (nine years ago) link

Srsly I know I'm persona non grata here but like when I give someone a link to a page I want them to post something and they instead ignore the link and post it in the same doc I am pretty sure I didn't fuck up.

tbf I can't actually follow this sentence

oochie wally (clean version) (sic), Saturday, 7 March 2015 03:13 (nine years ago) link

good god, our office is being renovated (people are being temporarily moved to another suite in several groups during construction) and people are coming up with THE MOST RIDICULOUS THINGS to get upset about like

  • how was the temporary seating chart arranged?
  • why aren't people sitting with their friends?
  • I heard we're not allowed to have books or plants at our desk anymore! If they don't let us have books on a shelf then I'M NOT PERFORMING MY BASIC JOB DUTIES
  • will be we betting new chair mats?

gybe horses (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 9 March 2015 18:13 (nine years ago) link

ultimately it just bums me out that people devote so much time and energy to getting worked up about little things at work because they don't have much else going on in life I guess

gybe horses (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 9 March 2015 18:16 (nine years ago) link

It's almost as though a working environment that treats employees like children who don't know their own minds results in employees who act like children.

from batman to balloon dog (carl agatha), Monday, 9 March 2015 18:28 (nine years ago) link

My employer is currently in the middle of a merger with another company, and their equivalent of our department is in "meltdown" to quote one of their HR people. Like I thought our roll-out of *INSERT NAME OF NEW-ISH TECH* was way behind schedule, but they haven't even started. Despite them having a team dedicated to figuring out how to do the deployment. Oh and they have two hours of scheduled time on their group calenders every day to discuss 'merger issues' which basically boils down to a large proportion of them getting laid off because they don't actually seem to be doing anything.

Hugh G. Wreckjoke (snoball), Monday, 9 March 2015 18:35 (nine years ago) link

Ha that reminds me of when we merged companies ohhh...2 years back now? And at the time someone said they aimed to have our billing and IP dbases merged with theirs within 3 quarters. I did laugh. 2 years later its still not happened.

I checked Snoops , and it is for real (Trayce), Tuesday, 10 March 2015 02:53 (nine years ago) link

"This new e-mail system" = Gmail, a free service that's been provided since 2004.

pplains, Tuesday, 10 March 2015 14:57 (nine years ago) link

it is 77°F in my office

the window is already open

mookieproof, Tuesday, 10 March 2015 18:14 (nine years ago) link

translate pls

post you had fecund thoughts about (darraghmac), Tuesday, 10 March 2015 18:30 (nine years ago) link

too effing hot

mookieproof, Tuesday, 10 March 2015 18:40 (nine years ago) link

right down to the vernacular, impressive service

post you had fecund thoughts about (darraghmac), Tuesday, 10 March 2015 18:45 (nine years ago) link

Newish colleague (neither stupid nor annoying tbh but y'know coworker so seemed the thread) was running a big annual black tie dinner for the first time tonight. He came back from tm lewin in the afternoon with a new dress shirt and realised he didn't have any cufflinks. I keep spares in the office because I've had the same thing happen in the past, so I offered them up.

Two hours later I went by the staff toilet on my way out

http://cl.ly/image/3S062J462h0u/File%2010-03-2015%2022%2037%2027.jpeg

sktsh, Tuesday, 10 March 2015 22:49 (nine years ago) link

gah!!!!!!!!!!!!!

post you had fecund thoughts about (darraghmac), Tuesday, 10 March 2015 23:07 (nine years ago) link

Oh lord it takes like two things to unwind (no tools required or water main turned off). Might be gross in there but I'd do that any day to avoid losing someone else's stuff.

smoochy-woochy touchy-wouchy, (sunny successor), Wednesday, 11 March 2015 03:38 (nine years ago) link

One of my colleagues wanted to bring in an external AV contractor to change a bulb in a video projector that could be reached by standing on the table underneath it.

Hugh G. Wreckjoke (snoball), Wednesday, 11 March 2015 07:49 (nine years ago) link

coworker is on calls all day selling movies to customers, constantly mangling actor names

in the last 10 minutes alone
ChristophER Waltz
JuliannA Moore
Kayley CuCOW (lol though)
oh and talked about Jennifer Aniston for a long time before he realized he meant Jennifer Lopez

u_u

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 11 March 2015 21:01 (nine years ago) link

i got into a huge fight with a coworker yesterday, and she repeatedly called me a liar*. then last night she called and left me a message apologizing for her 'losing her temper' but not for the accusations. she wants me to call her back so i'm not gonna, bc i'm mean and like holding grudges.

*this is boring, but to justify why her lying accusations are so stupid:
i'm the garment-dyer. i have to come up with new formulas to try and match the samples that coworker (65yr old french lady) gives me. i also manage the inventory, which means that i decide what goes out (sizes, colors etc) to each store. so she's telling me that we have to discontinue the cranberry and continue the moss bc the latter sells well and the former doesn't. how does she know this? bc she works about 15 hours a week, split between two stores. i tell her it's actually the other way round, bc i see the inventory sheets so i know the actual numbers. she starts telling me she doesn't believe me, that i just say a color is selling well if it's a color i like, and that it's not selling well if i don't like it. this is... nuts. like, why would i give a shit?? i don't work in the stores, i don't buy these clothes, i couldn't care less. it's in my best interests to correctly predict what is selling well and keep it stocked, bc i take the blame when we're left with tons of a bad color at the end of the season. but she wouldn't let up on this ridiculous idea, so yeah, fuck her.

just1n3, Thursday, 12 March 2015 01:08 (nine years ago) link

it shouldn't amaze me, but I am constantly amazed at how few people know how to apologize properly and handsomely. the non-apology or halfway apology or just the misapplied apology for the wrong thing seems to rule the world, not just the god damned playground. it takes patience and forgiveness to cope with all the rotten apologies one gets in the course of life.

Aimless, Thursday, 12 March 2015 01:46 (nine years ago) link

otm

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 12 March 2015 02:36 (nine years ago) link

^^^

ljubljana, Thursday, 12 March 2015 04:43 (nine years ago) link

It can be so freeing to sometimes just own a mistake and say "i got it wrong, what can I do to repair this?" and not make any excuses.

I checked Snoops , and it is for real (Trayce), Thursday, 12 March 2015 08:22 (nine years ago) link

^ this is actually one of the best ways to gain a reputation for competence and reliability, ironically

A MOOC, what's a MOOC? (Bananaman Begins), Thursday, 12 March 2015 10:52 (nine years ago) link

Good apologies and good acceptance (focused on solutions, dispassionate) are beautiful and the inspire so much respect. Three of my co -workers/bosses are really great at both and that makes up for a ton of quirks.

OTOH, my direct boss is terrible at both - on my the rare occasions she apologizes, it's hyperbolic and irritated ("That was my stupidity"). Usually she doesn't own up to mistakes, but says, "This didn't get done right. It needs to get done."

Anyway, that sucks, J. What a bizarre accusation. Like you're a shill for cranberry.

a girl with colitis (Je55e), Thursday, 12 March 2015 12:10 (nine years ago) link

Yeah this is true, I remember I got massive respect from the QA manager at one of my previous jobs because I owned up immediately to breaking something and fixed it straight away, from then on he trusted me over most of the other devs, who he said would've just denied all knowledge of it.

Just noise and screaming and no musical value at all. (Colonel Poo), Thursday, 12 March 2015 12:14 (nine years ago) link

The co-workers on my immediate team range from fair to good at this. But the department as a whole is about as bad as it can get while still staying on the pass-agg side of aggressive. We're not all in one big open plan office, but cutbacks mean that soon we might be. I wonder if the pass-agg blamers will learn to do that less, or will the 'good' colleagues learn to blame?

Hugh G. Wreckjoke (snoball), Thursday, 12 March 2015 12:40 (nine years ago) link

Good apologies and good acceptance (focused on solutions, dispassionate

I've done this on several occasions even when I wasn't to blame, simply because it brought things out into the open and stopped a potentially long series of recriminations and counter-recriminations. It's interesting the effect doing that has on pass-agg people, particularly the 'office politics' type. It's like they're gradually winding up to the point where they're saying "I'm going to tell your boss", but their whole gameplan gets short circuited when I take responsibility.

Hugh G. Wreckjoke (snoball), Thursday, 12 March 2015 12:47 (nine years ago) link

ive a few coworkers that rode good apologies all the way up the promotion ladder, despite the apologies being numerous and warranted.

post you had fecund thoughts about (darraghmac), Thursday, 12 March 2015 12:48 (nine years ago) link

Like one time my boss emailed me while out of town, "Email this FOIA request to the X city department and copy the client," so I emailed it and CC'd the client.

She called me in a state a minute after I sent it b/c she hadn't wanted the city dept to have the client's email address. I said I was sorry but "that was not apparent from your email." (There was no apparent confidentiality issue (the client's name was on the request) and it would be normal to CC the client, especially since she said "and copy the client.") She responded, "I meant 'send a copy to the client'! You should ask for clarification of yiu don't understand my directions."

a girl with colitis (Je55e), Thursday, 12 March 2015 12:51 (nine years ago) link

Like ayou're a shill for cranberry.

Lololol

just1n3, Thursday, 12 March 2015 15:57 (nine years ago) link

my God, having "a team" at work, how do u ppl stand it?

touch of a love-starved cobra (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 14 March 2015 00:44 (nine years ago) link

it's just laundry

mookieproof, Saturday, 14 March 2015 00:47 (nine years ago) link

they do all the work its great

post you had fecund thoughts about (darraghmac), Saturday, 14 March 2015 01:06 (nine years ago) link

So it's that time of year again when we think about vacations. I have to take mine at a time convenient to everyone else, even ignorant, lazy people who don't leave town for theirs, even though economics are not a factor.

WTF is going on with people who have the means and opportunity to travel and don't? Travel educates you and makes you a more worthwhile person. One would think employers encouraged such a thing.

NO CLOO (I M Losted), Saturday, 14 March 2015 21:53 (nine years ago) link

*SOBS*

koogs, Saturday, 14 March 2015 21:59 (nine years ago) link

travelling is definitely awesome but being a dick about it is not

imo

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 14 March 2015 22:11 (nine years ago) link

ya - if people don't want to travel, it's their loss – but really doesn't affect anyone else. maybe they just really like their beds and their cooking. even worse than a non-traveler, is a shitty/grouchy traveler.

AKA Thermo Thinwall (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 14 March 2015 22:23 (nine years ago) link

I'm basically a shut in except for work and i HATE when people say, ooh, taking a staycation? yes i am, co-worker, mind your own beeswax

Iago Galdston, Saturday, 14 March 2015 22:48 (nine years ago) link

for me, travel for travel's sake is pointless and a waste of money, and anyone who has a problem with that can fuck themselves in every way possible

don't ask me why i posted this (electricsound), Saturday, 14 March 2015 23:21 (nine years ago) link

Depends on what country you live in. And if you want to work in a creative field like publishing, but won't leave your city, it's a narrow-minded and provincial thing to do. It smacks of entitlement if you expect a job in academia or publishing, but won't travel.

Might not be so bad if you don't work in publishing or academia.

NO CLOO (I M Losted), Sunday, 15 March 2015 11:37 (nine years ago) link

You think that's entitled? Wait until they start telling you how to spend your time and money!

kinder, Sunday, 15 March 2015 13:13 (nine years ago) link

Lolol just1n3 that is so weird and petty!! Like "YOU just want YOUR favorite colors and MOM SAID IT WAS MY TURN WITH THE REMOTR AND STOP HOGGING ALL THE COOKIES! MOOMMMMMMMMM!!!!!!!!!l"

gybe horses (Stevie D(eux)), Sunday, 15 March 2015 14:42 (nine years ago) link

I work in publishing and haven't left the state in over five years.

(Except for this past winter/summer when I went to Australia for three weeks.)

pplains, Sunday, 15 March 2015 15:21 (nine years ago) link

ah our friends with wealthy parents are always telling us about how traveling makes one a better person. How does anyone know about anyone else's means for travel?

Team Foxcatcherwatcher (Sufjan Grafton), Sunday, 15 March 2015 18:05 (nine years ago) link

And even if you're sure they have the disposable income they may have other unavoidable demands on their free time, anxiety issues, etc

(or in my case chronic disorganisation)

undergraduate dance (a passing spacecadet), Sunday, 15 March 2015 18:26 (nine years ago) link

Like, I could probably afford to go away (though it is goddamned expensive to spend a week in hotels and eating in restaurants or w/e, I took my first holiday abroad in years last autumn and was p. shocked by the dent it left in my bank balance) but I'd need to hatch a plan and ask for time off and think about transport and research hotels and make bookings, all preferably months in advance, and it just never happens

undergraduate dance (a passing spacecadet), Sunday, 15 March 2015 18:28 (nine years ago) link

better to take a vacation from I M Losted

mookieproof, Sunday, 15 March 2015 18:38 (nine years ago) link

I go abroad at least once a year and its a fuckload of work to plan and budget for even without kids and with two incomes between us, and if it was my preference alone a few out of those times I'd havd preferred to sit at home in the house I pay for and dont get to enjoy and maybe at 2pm every day I'd go out for lunch in the town I pay to live in and never get to enjoy and as I say I travel abroad as much as Ryanair allows but srsly wtf at the attitude espoused above.

post you had fecund thoughts about (darraghmac), Sunday, 15 March 2015 18:45 (nine years ago) link

otm. 4 days is my max for travelling, bored after that.

Walking Close to Melton Mowbray (Tom D.), Sunday, 15 March 2015 18:51 (nine years ago) link

And if you want to work in a creative field like publishing, but won't leave your city, it's a narrow-minded and provincial thing to do. It smacks of entitlement if you expect a job in academia or publishing, but won't travel.

What is this assholish reasoning? Everyone I know in creative fields has exactly two tenths of fuck all money, for starters.

I checked Snoops , and it is for real (Trayce), Sunday, 15 March 2015 22:52 (nine years ago) link

the bigger question is what r u running from with all this endless travel

hmmmmm?

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 15 March 2015 23:09 (nine years ago) link

pretty jealous of anyone who has all the PTO to do all this overseas travelling

just1n3, Sunday, 15 March 2015 23:22 (nine years ago) link

guilty as charged there tbh yr eyes would pop I'm on about half if what sic gets in terms of leave.

post you had fecund thoughts about (darraghmac), Sunday, 15 March 2015 23:35 (nine years ago) link

i have plenty of leave because i don't take it but how do people with jobs have the energy to travel? feels like a cruel joke. i'd choose stay home and get some sleep and be dull.

computer champion (harbl), Sunday, 15 March 2015 23:41 (nine years ago) link

I heard u were afraid of international outrage

post you had fecund thoughts about (darraghmac), Sunday, 15 March 2015 23:49 (nine years ago) link

Americans are on half what I get, I just saved it up for years

Going to have endless time off from mid-year though!

oochie wally (clean version) (sic), Sunday, 15 March 2015 23:51 (nine years ago) link

Friend of mine obsessively travels but she's a bit of a lone wolf (no partner or fam) working out in the desert as an airforce cook, I think that kind of job leaves one with insane amts of spare money given they pay for your accoms and whatnot.

I checked Snoops , and it is for real (Trayce), Monday, 16 March 2015 00:44 (nine years ago) link

I could go for a bit of that

oochie wally (clean version) (sic), Monday, 16 March 2015 00:59 (nine years ago) link

certainly there's entire weeks I could go for the no partner bit

post you had fecund thoughts about (darraghmac), Monday, 16 March 2015 01:16 (nine years ago) link

I meant especially bcz redundant sometime in May, homeless sometime between April and July, and you could get a lot of reading done

sure but I'd go for a drink with you once a week on these desert sojourns

oochie wally (clean version) (sic), Monday, 16 March 2015 02:26 (nine years ago) link

I was gonna say - redundant!? Boh :(

I checked Snoops , and it is for real (Trayce), Monday, 16 March 2015 02:27 (nine years ago) link

:(

post you had fecund thoughts about (darraghmac), Monday, 16 March 2015 02:28 (nine years ago) link

:/

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 16 March 2015 02:28 (nine years ago) link

:\

don't ask me why i posted this (electricsound), Monday, 16 March 2015 02:38 (nine years ago) link

it's alright guys I'm gonna join the air force and live in the desert iirc

oochie wally (clean version) (sic), Monday, 16 March 2015 04:15 (nine years ago) link

how does traveling 'make one a better person' anyway? i believe chonging on ecigs and listening to danny baker podcasts makes for a better person but im not shouting that from the rooftops

NI, Monday, 16 March 2015 04:16 (nine years ago) link

actually scratch that, i really do

NI, Monday, 16 March 2015 04:17 (nine years ago) link

Tryn 2 think if u know said airforce cook lady sic, as she is good m8s with me and miss Ol1via.

I checked Snoops , and it is for real (Trayce), Monday, 16 March 2015 06:05 (nine years ago) link

The bitching here is directed at whoever allows this to happen, mostly, but there's a woman in my office who seems to have some quite bad mental problems, and has just been jettisoned entirely by any boss or team. We move from desk to desk (as does everyone) and she keeps annexing desks in different parts of the office, but she sits and talks to herself in a strained argumentative tone all day - and not like "oh I must email Steven" or whatever, it's like this bizarre rambling. She's sitting behind me now and I just heard "but he was holding a child!" - a lot of it is kind of mumbling. She looks at Google Maps with a map of Daventry, all day.

My boss has emailed to try and see what's happening or why she has no team whatsoever - makes me wonder how many people are working in civil service buildings just drifting along having been cut loose from any responsibility or structure, or contact.

Junior Dictionary (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 17 March 2015 13:21 (nine years ago) link

What the hell. She needs to be on some sort of disability leave, surely?

As for your last question, as a former employee of a US state government, more than the taxpayers wish, that's for sure. Although IME most people who are ill in some form or another are out on extended disability leave and the people who still come to work and drift along without responsibility are politically connected patronage hires with no ambitions beyond hanging out in an office, looking at the internet, taking long lunches, and leaving early every day.

from batman to balloon dog (carl agatha), Tuesday, 17 March 2015 14:23 (nine years ago) link

YES I am still very bitter, yes.

from batman to balloon dog (carl agatha), Tuesday, 17 March 2015 14:23 (nine years ago) link

makes me wonder how many people are working in civil service buildings just drifting along having been cut loose from any responsibility or structure, or contact

At my civil service job in London we had a guy who loudly masturbated every day at lunch time in the men's toilets, two people who talked to themselves, someone who just took a shit right in the middle of the men's room, and someone who openly watched porn.

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Tuesday, 17 March 2015 14:26 (nine years ago) link

god, I miss that place

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Tuesday, 17 March 2015 14:26 (nine years ago) link

Man that all sounds very familiar...

from batman to balloon dog (carl agatha), Tuesday, 17 March 2015 14:57 (nine years ago) link

I disavow all knowledge we're a new reformed institution over here

post you had fecund thoughts about (darraghmac), Tuesday, 17 March 2015 16:08 (nine years ago) link

no ambitions beyond hanging out in an office, looking at the internet, taking long lunches, and leaving early every day.

if you can think of a worthwhile work aspiration beyond these I'm all ears poindexter

A MOOC, what's a MOOC? (Bananaman Begins), Tuesday, 17 March 2015 16:09 (nine years ago) link

i actually love my job - most of what i do is trying to modernise how civil servants write and communicate - so we are this fly in the ointment with a really well backed mandate for changing people's behaviour. we get a barrage of abuse and insults but that's part of the fun - the work is interesting and challenging too, good money also as we are freelance.

on the plus side - it is the civil service so nobody in my team works in the office on mondays or fridays. our work is closely monitored, we have tough enough targets to reach etc, so it's all very open and honest - has made me realise the only bad thing about being hungover on a work day is having to be in work, i can do a good day's work at home regardless of what i did the night before.

Junior Dictionary (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 17 March 2015 17:12 (nine years ago) link

hey lg we do the same thing! are you roving gds or with a department? (I'm at an moj agency, moving to gds on monday).

woof, Tuesday, 17 March 2015 17:24 (nine years ago) link

if you can think of a worthwhile work aspiration beyond these I'm all ears poindexter

lol okay good point.

from batman to balloon dog (carl agatha), Tuesday, 17 March 2015 17:28 (nine years ago) link

"so we are this fly in the ointment with a really well backed mandate for changing people's behaviour. we get a barrage of abuse and insults but that's part of the fun"

I'm in vaguely aligned field is this an ILX thing, civil service reform

post you had fecund thoughts about (darraghmac), Tuesday, 17 March 2015 17:31 (nine years ago) link

sounds totally convincing imo, 'challenging opinions: the ilx framework for civil service reform'

woof, Tuesday, 17 March 2015 17:56 (nine years ago) link

someone who just took a shit right in the middle of the men's room

Someone at my wife's work took a huge shit by the photocopier, and my wife was told by her supervisor not to talk about it because "it might make the person who did it ashamed".

as verbose and purple as a Peter Ustinov made of plums (James Morrison), Wednesday, 18 March 2015 02:10 (nine years ago) link

I don't think it would!

pplains, Wednesday, 18 March 2015 02:20 (nine years ago) link

Wheres said photocopier? I'm just imagining someone sqattin' down beside it in a room in full view of everyone :/

Or are we talking "whoops I soiled my pants cos I have a bad grog bog hangover" situ?

I checked Snoops , and it is for real (Trayce), Wednesday, 18 March 2015 02:25 (nine years ago) link

Photocopier has a room by itself, I believe. but it was a big pile on the floor, not a spattering of pants-escapees

as verbose and purple as a Peter Ustinov made of plums (James Morrison), Wednesday, 18 March 2015 02:40 (nine years ago) link

Long after I left my last job I heard a story about someone who went out drinking with colleagues after work and, instead of making it home, passed out on his office floor and next to a pile of his own feces, apparently also unable to make it to the men's room.

Amazingly, he was not only not fired, but continued to be well regarded afaik and the incident was hushed up to protect his reputation. It must be nice to be a high level executive, is all I can say.

Orson Wellies (in orbit), Wednesday, 18 March 2015 02:44 (nine years ago) link

Yeah that shit happens (er no pun intended). Once the COO at my company came back from office drinks pissed as a newt and proceeded to drop trou and change pants in front of a female colleague in the lobby. No one ever did anything about it.

I checked Snoops , and it is for real (Trayce), Wednesday, 18 March 2015 02:55 (nine years ago) link

pants-escapees

kate78, Wednesday, 18 March 2015 06:26 (nine years ago) link

hey lg we do the same thing! are you roving gds or with a department? (I'm at an moj agency, moving to gds on monday).

ah wow - interesting! i'm in environment food/rural affairs on a project since last june, ending by july (so they say, we'll see) - i may stay on after or else try to get a day rate somewhere else.

quite new to this work but i think i like it more than most of what i've done. gds seems like a v vibrant and fun place to work. are you going there to do content design? i never knew this kind of work existed but i feel like i've thrived since joining. it was meant to be a bit of a stopgap as i do acting and comedy and other writing, but i find myself enjoying it hugely.

Junior Dictionary (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 18 March 2015 09:43 (nine years ago) link

I'm pretty much the same - I was freelancer who'd been scrubbing around doing about enough writing, subbing, this-and-that to stay head-above-water – had no idea that this world of work existed (and often pays well), but then was picked up by a good agency a couple of years ago. I really like it – it's suited my odd mix of skills and I feel like I've done some genuinely worthwhile things. I might go 77 so we can be a bit more concrete - I'd be interested to hear more - I know defra have some good people, and we were admiring the environment agency style guide late last year.

woof, Wednesday, 18 March 2015 11:44 (nine years ago) link

maybe drop me a mail actually - ronanf i t z g e r a l d without those spaces at gmail dot com

definitely would be good to talk!

Junior Dictionary (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 18 March 2015 12:18 (nine years ago) link

hah, that's a better idea - I've got a busy day, but I'll drop you a line later.

woof, Wednesday, 18 March 2015 12:22 (nine years ago) link

I don't even know if I'm on 77 - is 77 still private? I dunno...

Junior Dictionary (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 18 March 2015 12:30 (nine years ago) link

someone who just took a shit right in the middle of the men's room

Someone at my wife's work took a huge shit by the photocopier, and my wife was told by her supervisor not to talk about it because "it might make the person who did it ashamed".

― as verbose and purple as a Peter Ustinov made of plums (James Morrison), Tuesday, March 17, 2015 10:10 PM (1 week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Oh my god.

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Tuesday, 24 March 2015 15:18 (nine years ago) link

shame can be an important tool in the prevention of photocopier shits

Team Foxcatcherwatcher (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 24 March 2015 15:50 (nine years ago) link

copatients

took a ticket for a blood test, 96, ticker was at 32 I went off and got an xray, took 20 mins, came back, nice little sighter, ticker at 52, grand I says I'll grab breakfast and read Fahrenheit 451 which being done I went back and ticker was at 92, nice.

stood waiting for 96 with all eyes on me, a room (portakabin) full of aul wans staring me out of it. ive half an idea what's gone on, viz, these silly old cunts have been crammed into this room for two hours despite having numbered reservations, and not having seen me taking a ticket for my current presence they figure im on the make somehow.

96 ticks up, I'm off for the door of the test room with a full rolling pimp walk, milking it, its like a wrestling villain entrance, wails and protests and wherer you goin jung fella cries coming from all sides. ive the ticket held out like I found it in a wonka bar, theyre looking at it like david blaine produced it from the arse of an archbishop, what magics this kinda thing

how'd you do that?

uh I got it a few hours ago and left.

YOU CANT DO THAT SHURE IF WE ALL DID THAT WHERE WOULD WE BE

I dunno love. not in a cabin that smells of farts anyway?

I'm the bad guy here. copatients.

post you had fecund thoughts about (darraghmac), Tuesday, 24 March 2015 19:40 (nine years ago) link

hero

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 24 March 2015 20:29 (nine years ago) link

nicely done

Team Foxcatcherwatcher (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 24 March 2015 21:25 (nine years ago) link

theyre looking at it like david blaine produced it from the arse of an archbishop

This is the best.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 24 March 2015 22:24 (nine years ago) link

great stuff

Eyeball Kicks, Wednesday, 25 March 2015 13:47 (nine years ago) link

heh thanks guys I enjoyed it v much certainly.

post you had fecund thoughts about (darraghmac), Wednesday, 25 March 2015 13:59 (nine years ago) link

guy in my open office of like two dozen ppl has spent probably 45 minutes each of the last three days on the phone with priceline dot com about some fuckup with his airline reservations

i can understand that this is frustrating, but i really don't want to endlessly listen to him alternately berate/apologize to call-center drones

today he actually said 'this is unacceptable -- you are a public company with a $10b market capitalization and you can't figure out my $60 overcharge?'

ffs

mookieproof, Friday, 27 March 2015 19:12 (nine years ago) link

Gross.

from batman to balloon dog (carl agatha), Friday, 27 March 2015 20:22 (nine years ago) link

I mean kinda gross but he's not wrong: How does he think they got to those numbers? They made that money by tactics like charging people overages and not giving a shit about fixing them afterwards.

Orson Wellies (in orbit), Friday, 27 March 2015 20:34 (nine years ago) link

its like a wrestling villain entrance

dying

j., Friday, 27 March 2015 21:15 (nine years ago) link

how much of that $10b is the customer service rep raking in?

Free Me's Electric Trumpet (Moodles), Friday, 27 March 2015 22:04 (nine years ago) link

None; paying your employees is also an undesirable expense.

Orson Wellies (in orbit), Friday, 27 March 2015 22:58 (nine years ago) link

co-worker: You're talking to someone who once sent a dead owl through the post!
snoball: errr... what?

Hugh G. Wreckjoke (snoball), Friday, 3 April 2015 10:42 (nine years ago) link

to who?

post you had fecund thoughts about (darraghmac), Friday, 3 April 2015 11:04 (nine years ago) link

I didn't dare ask.

Hugh G. Wreckjoke (snoball), Friday, 3 April 2015 11:05 (nine years ago) link

It came out during a conversation/debate/argument about the correct packaging of items for shipping.

Hugh G. Wreckjoke (snoball), Friday, 3 April 2015 11:06 (nine years ago) link

I meant who was it destined for

post you had fecund thoughts about (darraghmac), Friday, 3 April 2015 11:14 (nine years ago) link

to whit, to who

post you had fecund thoughts about (darraghmac), Friday, 3 April 2015 11:15 (nine years ago) link

should have hit one of them with a chair

Junior Dictionary (LocalGarda), Friday, 3 April 2015 11:19 (nine years ago) link

I would have, but I didn't want to start a barn-y...

Hugh G. Wreckjoke (snoball), Friday, 3 April 2015 11:47 (nine years ago) link

i meant wrestling villain deems

Junior Dictionary (LocalGarda), Friday, 3 April 2015 11:47 (nine years ago) link

I mean, people were getting their heads in a twist enough as it is.

Hugh G. Wreckjoke (snoball), Friday, 3 April 2015 11:47 (nine years ago) link

I'd keep my eyes wide open on that guy though.

pplains, Friday, 3 April 2015 13:27 (nine years ago) link

People at work sometimes leave stuff in the break room to be taken by others (mugs, books, etc). Someone left this:

and I thought it was stupid and funny so I took it and put it on a shelf at my desk. A few days later I get called into someone's office and told that someone complained about it. I asked what the nature of the complaint was and was told that the person just said it "made them uncomfortable" seeing the words "ashes of ex husbands" and when I asked if they said why, I was told "they didn't say and I didn't want to push it"

What the fuck?

gybe horses (Stevie D(eux)), Sunday, 5 April 2015 14:12 (nine years ago) link

Wait this is the thing

http://i.imgur.com/k2ESlOKh.jpg

gybe horses (Stevie D(eux)), Sunday, 5 April 2015 14:13 (nine years ago) link

kinda can't tell if I should be offended or not but it kinda makes me a bit uncomf that they were like "we didn't ask because we didn't want our suspicions of homophobia were correct so we're making this about you"

gybe horses (Stevie D(eux)), Sunday, 5 April 2015 14:20 (nine years ago) link

yeah that is shitty

either
a) articulate what the "problem" actually is

or

b) there is no "problem"

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 5 April 2015 14:55 (nine years ago) link

You should replace it with this one:

http://i.imgur.com/MNv2vsT.gif

pplains, Sunday, 5 April 2015 15:43 (nine years ago) link

lol

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 5 April 2015 17:23 (nine years ago) link

How does homophobia play into it? Probably reminds people of their harrowing divorce and desire to murder their ex husband. Aka acts as a trigger in the modern parlance

badg, Sunday, 5 April 2015 17:33 (nine years ago) link

is it not likely someone whose partner or ex has died or something?

kinder, Sunday, 5 April 2015 20:53 (nine years ago) link

V unlikely, I am p sure it was this one busybody ornery asshole who complains loudly about EVERYTHING all of the time, I obv could be wrong but I highly doubt any of the 5 or 6 ppl who even work in the part of the office that could even see it have ex husbands (only one of them could have or have had a husband and I know that she is single and am p sure she never married and wouldn't be offended by it)

But idk

gybe horses (Stevie D(eux)), Sunday, 5 April 2015 21:51 (nine years ago) link

V unlikely, I am p sure it was this one busybody ornery asshole who complains loudly about EVERYTHING all of the time, I obv could be wrong but I highly doubt any of the 5 or 6 ppl who even work in the part of the office that could even see it have ex husbands (only one of them could have or have had a husband and I know that she is single and am p sure she never married and wouldn't be offended by it)

But idk

gybe horses (Stevie D(eux)), Sunday, 5 April 2015 21:51 (nine years ago) link

The fact that they wouldn't give you a reason, when "One of your coworkers lost a spouse and found this item to be upsetting" is such an understandable and easy thing to say, suggests to me that a dead ex is not the issue here.

from batman to balloon dog (carl agatha), Sunday, 5 April 2015 21:53 (nine years ago) link

carbon allergy

post you had fecund thoughts about (darraghmac), Sunday, 5 April 2015 21:54 (nine years ago) link

xpost carl otm

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 5 April 2015 21:55 (nine years ago) link

three weeks pass...

ffs stop laughing, what's so fucking funny, you fucking annoying cow!!!!!!!!!

Quack and Merkt (Tom D.), Monday, 27 April 2015 14:18 (nine years ago) link

seems we've moved on from 'a big ask' to 'a high lift'

mookieproof, Tuesday, 28 April 2015 14:45 (nine years ago) link

I know this is a broad river to ford but

Bookmark No Bingus Permalink (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 28 April 2015 14:52 (nine years ago) link

my coworker is sleeping w/ my friend (who I am also sleeping w/) and it's annoying me.

gybe horses (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 28 April 2015 22:34 (nine years ago) link

never let those worlds collide

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 28 April 2015 22:45 (nine years ago) link

Don't shit where you eat, my friend.

from batman to balloon dog (carl agatha), Wednesday, 29 April 2015 00:34 (nine years ago) link

His coworker is shitting where Stevie shits but they both eat at a separate table iiuc

( who ALSO my boss and his sister!) (sic), Wednesday, 29 April 2015 01:05 (nine years ago) link

i can't help it! me + friend met totally separately from coworker + friend! what do i do??

gybe horses (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 29 April 2015 01:15 (nine years ago) link

double down & start sleeping with coworker

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 29 April 2015 01:16 (nine years ago) link

tbh that almost happened 4 or so years ago, long before we were coworkers

gybe horses (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 29 April 2015 01:25 (nine years ago) link

double down & start sleeping with coworker

― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, April 29, 2015 1:16 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

LOL why not?

from batman to balloon dog (carl agatha), Wednesday, 29 April 2015 02:46 (nine years ago) link

I've considered trying to make it happen but tbh I want to sleep w/ coworker's bf much more.

gybe horses (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 29 April 2015 12:30 (nine years ago) link

Maybe the 4 of us could all watch a movie sometime?

gybe horses (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 29 April 2015 12:30 (nine years ago) link

I had my job orientation last week in the office of a HR manager who had that urn on a shelf reading "Ashes of Problem Employees" so....

Orson Wellies (in orbit), Wednesday, 29 April 2015 12:33 (nine years ago) link

In my 20s I worked for a very small family business owned by a real bozo (I don't want to armchair diagnose but she had some kind of narcissistic/borderline personality/total inability to relate to other humans in a way that was healthy or comfortable issue). Her really cute brother worked there, too, so I decided to make my life interesting by secretly dating him (he was also still married, although separated, to his second wife, and he lived in an apartment over the bozo's house, and I drove a Cutlass Supreme with flames painted on it so I had to like, park blocks away and sneak over) (he was also an ex-military muscle car dude who dressed like a greaser, so the whole thing had an air of novelty dating around it anyway). The relationship was never going to last, but he was a nice guy and in hindsight it was pretty fun. Also I quit that job by making two lists - one was all of the bozo's professional shortcomings, and one was all of her personal shortcomings, and literally pulling them out of my pocket and reading the professional items to the bozo herself (I never made it to the personal ones), in front of four other employees, which was wildly unprofessional but extremely satisfying. The brother and I broke up pretty amicably after a little less than a year of casual dating when we both realized we were uninterested in getting more serious (he's now on his third or fourth wife, third kid, and seems really happy).

Anyway, my point is that complicating your work situation by dating more of your coworkers is probably a terrible idea but that one time I did it, it turned out to be pretty fun.

xp LOL oh no. Stevie, you need to send IO your "ashes of ex husbands" jar, stat.

from batman to balloon dog (carl agatha), Wednesday, 29 April 2015 12:44 (nine years ago) link

Every time I thought that story couldn't get any better, it proved me so wrong.

Orson Wellies (in orbit), Wednesday, 29 April 2015 12:52 (nine years ago) link

That resignation remains a real high point in my life. It's the kind of thing you can seriously only do in your early 20s when you can't imagine any of your actions actually having any consequences (to be fair to my younger self, those actions did not have any consequences of note beyond feeling great and giving me a good resignation story) so you're willing to just be a total asshole to your boss.

from batman to balloon dog (carl agatha), Wednesday, 29 April 2015 12:55 (nine years ago) link

I drove a Cutlass Supreme with flames painted on it

mookieproof, Wednesday, 29 April 2015 12:57 (nine years ago) link

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/45/145653126_c25272310f_o.jpg

Unfortunately that's the only picture I have of it.

from batman to balloon dog (carl agatha), Wednesday, 29 April 2015 13:09 (nine years ago) link

Had no idea Carl was actually a character from a Peter Bagge comic.

pplains, Wednesday, 29 April 2015 13:22 (nine years ago) link

"His stories often use black humor and exaggerated cartooning to dramatize the reduced expectations of middle-class American youth."

Yeah, okay.

from batman to balloon dog (carl agatha), Wednesday, 29 April 2015 13:23 (nine years ago) link

That story should be in the "Lol Twenties" hall of fame

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 29 April 2015 15:50 (nine years ago) link

xxxpost "unfortunately"?! omg so rad

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 29 April 2015 15:50 (nine years ago) link

awes

thoughts you made second posts about (darraghmac), Wednesday, 29 April 2015 17:03 (nine years ago) link

glad this thread has returned to form.

AKA Thermo Thinwall (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 29 April 2015 20:53 (nine years ago) link

What was boss's response???

gybe horses (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 30 April 2015 01:06 (nine years ago) link

My boss's response? She cried! I made my terrible boss cry! There was also yelling.

from batman to balloon dog (carl agatha), Thursday, 30 April 2015 01:55 (nine years ago) link

Carl's story is fantastic!

as verbose and purple as a Peter Ustinov made of plums (James Morrison), Thursday, 30 April 2015 02:08 (nine years ago) link

omg you made her cry

there's no better ending for that story

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 30 April 2015 06:25 (nine years ago) link

can we give you some kind of parade? I feel like you need a parade

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 30 April 2015 06:25 (nine years ago) link

after just having had a very tiresome chat with a co-worker (but... but... but... yes i know but...), that story has completely cheered me up.

Fizzles, Thursday, 30 April 2015 06:54 (nine years ago) link

that is such a good story.

estela, Thursday, 30 April 2015 07:34 (nine years ago) link

I was shocked about the crying. I expected anger, indignation, quiet seething rage but when she just burst into tears I was definitely taken aback. But then I rallied and continued reading the items on my list.

from batman to balloon dog (carl agatha), Thursday, 30 April 2015 12:28 (nine years ago) link

If one of the things on your list was about her being a bully, I'm not surprised she fell apart when confronted. They usually do, so their whole lives are about creating an atmosphere where others are scared to call them on their assholism.

camp event (suzy), Thursday, 30 April 2015 12:55 (nine years ago) link

i work in civil service and there are a lot of empty shell type people wandering around my building (i don't mean me, i have a rich life full of hobbies i enjoy) - these zombies tend to make strange social missteps - basic human courtesy is rare in this 20 per cent.

this afternoon i was waiting for the lift and a person kind of stormed onto the landing, then pressed the "up" button several times. after a few minutes a lift came, so they rushed ahead of me. i followed them in and they said "i'm going up" and held the 8 button for a long time - the lift however remained loyal to the first button pushed, and as they said "i'm going up!" again, and nothing happened, and they looked at the buttons like an ape that had found a diamond, i felt a kind of sadness and just had to break the news... "i think the lift is going down"

bureau belfast model (LocalGarda), Thursday, 30 April 2015 14:13 (nine years ago) link

I don't know if I'm comforted or just sad that civil service employees seem to be the same the world over. You could teleport that person to the state government where I used to work and nobody would know they hadn't worked there forever.

from batman to balloon dog (carl agatha), Thursday, 30 April 2015 14:23 (nine years ago) link

I often wonder about civil service in America, I think after reading an article about those workers in the gigantic cave somewhere, maybe it was Inland Revenue letters they process? I guess it's basically the same.

It's so odd how institutionalised the people become - like you see the weirdest behaviour, people eating full English fry-up breakfasts every day in the canteen, a few weeks ago I saw a guy asleep and snoring at 1pm, on a couch.

There are a lot of people who seem like they might not be able to work in other places - and I mean I guess I kind of support that the state should employ these people. But that doesn't mean it's not a bit sad sometimes.

bureau belfast model (LocalGarda), Thursday, 30 April 2015 15:10 (nine years ago) link

do they do important work, these 20%? or do they just turn up day in day out as if to use up the time? I work in an academic library and sometimes wonder what would happen if all of the staff just stopped turning up. On a pessimistic day I think, not much probably.

Keith Moom (Neil S), Thursday, 30 April 2015 15:15 (nine years ago) link

it's hard to be sure - i suspect people are handed out basic jobs, eg if you go to get a new security pass there are maybe 5/6 people doing it and it's really dysfunctional.

it's hard to tell - i guess there must be a lot of slack - i find it v hard to actually work out how a state could be efficient, not that i mean that as advocating losing people either, i just think if you want a big state that tends to employ people you must accept the waste that goes with it.

bureau belfast model (LocalGarda), Thursday, 30 April 2015 15:20 (nine years ago) link

I can only speak to the notoriously crooked government of the state where I worked, but there's a lot of patronage, meaning that people often get jobs because of their connections (anything from being blood related to a senator to being the son of someone active in a church that's pastor is known to bring in votes for a specific candidate). Sometimes these people are in no way qualified to work the jobs that they get, and sometimes they totally are but don't give a fuck.

But that doesn't really explain the just general weirdness of people who worked there. Ronan's elevator person is such a good example and I have seen that exact kind of behavior. Like the professional and social customs of a regular private sector workplace are completely out the window. Sometimes that's good, sometimes that's amusing, sometimes it's dreadful.

I've put a lot of the five years I worked in that environment out of my mind, but I'm remembering the coworker who 1) went through my trash can (we put our trash out in the hall for collection) and 2) stopped by to talk about something interesting she found in my trash (the packaging for a wrist brace to help stave off over-use tendinitis) and did not act like it was weird or objectionable at all.

from batman to balloon dog (carl agatha), Thursday, 30 April 2015 15:41 (nine years ago) link

Like the conversation opener was, "I was looking in your trash and I saw the packaging for a wrist brace. What's going on with your wrist?" And I think I was so taken aback by the entire thing that I just told her!

from batman to balloon dog (carl agatha), Thursday, 30 April 2015 15:42 (nine years ago) link

that is really weird, i'm lucky in that the team immediately around me is kind of based on changing behaviour, so we're all sort of in the eye of the storm and can joke about this kind of thing.

i think i mentioned upthread the woman who has just been jettisoned by any team or boss, and spends all day looking at a google map of daventry, talking to herself and muttering things like "but you were holding the child", or grumpily chuntering on in vague terms about whoever "stole" the chair she had annexed since the previous time someone stole "her" chair. like "red coat, red coat, red coat".

lots of weird corridor/lift/stairs behaviour though, people are treated essentially like children and behave accordingly, rushing out of lifts, shoving past each other, there are signs everywhere, like the most basic thing has a sign "don't forget your laptop!", "did you wash your hands!" etc etc.

there's the more higher echelon people too, like someone who's a policy expert or something - the type of people who send an email as if they sat down to write it with a glass of port underneath a big taxidermy deer's head, while drinking a brandy. just so ineffectual.

i published a webpage last month, which i had to fight to publish, which came to me as an "urgent" request last june, in the form of a forwarded email chain which had the same "urgent" subject line when it first originated in december 2013. "urgent" just means "yeah we have to actually do this one, not like the others".

bureau belfast model (LocalGarda), Thursday, 30 April 2015 16:28 (nine years ago) link

forgot to mention i fucking love it here, prob my favourite job ever

bureau belfast model (LocalGarda), Thursday, 30 April 2015 16:30 (nine years ago) link

hahaha

goole, Thursday, 30 April 2015 16:42 (nine years ago) link

whole last 24 hours of this thread has been nuts

goole, Thursday, 30 April 2015 16:42 (nine years ago) link

Sorry my furtive posting meant I added in both port and brandy

bureau belfast model (LocalGarda), Thursday, 30 April 2015 16:49 (nine years ago) link

god its rly quite normal over here now :(

thoughts you made second posts about (darraghmac), Thursday, 30 April 2015 17:25 (nine years ago) link

We've got this weird wall decal in the restroom that says in cursive font, "Don't forget to wash your hands! Love, Mom"

… and I hate it. My mother is pretty whimsical about most everything, but even that would be too much for her.

pplains, Thursday, 30 April 2015 18:13 (nine years ago) link

And really, thank goodness she's alive. I'm scared that one day I'll go in there, and there'll be a co-worker leaning against the wall trying to contain his tears.

pplains, Thursday, 30 April 2015 18:15 (nine years ago) link

I hate the implication that it's anybody's mother's job to policy handwashing. You're grown. Wash your fucking hands.

See also: "Do your dishes. Your mother doesn't work here."

FUCK YOU

from batman to balloon dog (carl agatha), Thursday, 30 April 2015 18:18 (nine years ago) link

well if my mother doesn't work here, how did she leave that stupid note in the restroom?

pplains, Thursday, 30 April 2015 18:22 (nine years ago) link

"Maybe you should wear something more flattering to work? Love Mum"

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 30 April 2015 19:41 (nine years ago) link

"I don't think I could wear lipstick that color. Love Mum"

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 30 April 2015 19:42 (nine years ago) link

"Are you sure you ironed that shirt?"

Evan, Thursday, 30 April 2015 20:11 (nine years ago) link

"did you specify non-sequential bills?"

Bookmark No Bingus Permalink (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 30 April 2015 20:13 (nine years ago) link

"Don't forget to deliberately not wash your hands! Love, Richard Feynman"

Hugh G. Wreckjoke (snoball), Thursday, 30 April 2015 20:22 (nine years ago) link

I don't technically work in civil service, but it's as good as. It's actually the most smart and professional workplace I've ever had. (Whereas the creative private sector place my partner works in is total nuts)

kinder, Thursday, 30 April 2015 20:32 (nine years ago) link

I work in a place where I was able to put a sign saying "ONLY FULL-TIME STAFF CAN URINATE INTO THIS BUCKET" on a bucket being used to catch water from a roof leak in our main corridor and the sign stayed there for a whole day; don't know if this makes my workplace good or bad

i vote good

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 1 May 2015 02:27 (nine years ago) link

It makes you a model coworker.

from batman to balloon dog (carl agatha), Friday, 1 May 2015 02:52 (nine years ago) link

See also: "Do your dishes. Your mother doesn't work here."

Well, tbh at my workplace thats exactly what *I* think because fuck me, if anyone in this office ever learned how to wash a cup its news to me. We have a dishwasher and TWO sinks, but inevitably by Friday afternoon both sinks are piled to the brim with filthy plates and cups and people just rinse off dishes and shove em in the drainer rack.

I checked Snoops , and it is for real (Trayce), Friday, 1 May 2015 02:57 (nine years ago) link

I also, btw, have a ton of stories about institutionalized behaviour in public service jobs but... its hard to bring any to clear recall now, it was 25 years ago and it is all a big, horrible blur that Ive blanked out.

I checked Snoops , and it is for real (Trayce), Friday, 1 May 2015 02:58 (nine years ago) link

The problem with that sign is the assumption that it's your mother's job to do dishes.

But yeah, people should clean up after themselves. That's gross that you end up with two sink fulls of dirty dishes at work! Bleh.

from batman to balloon dog (carl agatha), Friday, 1 May 2015 02:59 (nine years ago) link

Oh right yes of course, thats a good point.

But yeah ugh. The worst offender is a woman who eats some form of gross chocolate porridge at her desk every morning, so I have to put up with the clinking and stirring and slurping and then she puts the soaking gummy bowl in the sink all day.

I checked Snoops , and it is for real (Trayce), Friday, 1 May 2015 03:04 (nine years ago) link

Private sector can be just as bad, you get places that have over-hired and pay too much with maybe a weird appraisal system where it ends up like a cartel of denial, nobody leaving cos they can't get a better job and they're getting worse and worse at their current one. Public sector need not be like this as a rule, BBC was nothing like this, most people were on short contracts and it was incredibly competitive, ultimately tiring and unfair/

bureau belfast model (LocalGarda), Friday, 1 May 2015 06:54 (nine years ago) link

I thought there was a danger of my colleague, who seems to have an unusually relaxed approach to work, being in a position where she finally had to deliver something. I was kind of interested how that would turn out.

Get in this morning to find she's off sick and I'm nominated to take this work over.

quixotic yet visceral (Bob Six), Friday, 1 May 2015 09:13 (nine years ago) link

This is probably more an issue around poor management really, though.

quixotic yet visceral (Bob Six), Friday, 1 May 2015 09:27 (nine years ago) link

i have a regular client, a designer, who once expected me to build a website with the only design reference being an animated gif that she had sent over

1staethyr, Friday, 1 May 2015 09:29 (nine years ago) link

I was a civil servant until 3 years ago, and can endorse a lot of Ronan's observed behaviour. At least part of it is to do with the kind of people/quality of people you can get for the money - at the lowest grades, during the NuLab years, there was a special dispensation to exclude public servants from having the minimum wage applied to them. When the coalition decided to revoke the dispensation, some people were getting a 30% pay rise just to get to minimum wage. Perhaps as a result they don't really have a sense of belonging, so basic things like making sure you do your shit in the toilet as opposed to on the floor sometimes go by the wayside because it's somebody else's problem to clean up and it's not like it matters. Actual staff pay through the range is poor, even to the top; the only people paid market rates are consultants and temporary staff because they wouldn't come in otherwise. But I wouldn't say any more about that until I know this is definitely de-indexed.

Also, the reason you then end up with people like Map Woman is because it's very, very difficult to discipline people, and almost impossible to sack them. You can give her hard performance targets to get measured against to try and prove she's not capable, but those targets have to be within her abilities to start with and she may only be able to stare at a map - in which case that's all you can ask her to do and as long as she does that then her performance is satisfactory. Again, there are de-indexed stories about that.

the bowels are not what they seem (aldo), Friday, 1 May 2015 09:39 (nine years ago) link

would enjoy a de-indexed thread

kinder, Friday, 1 May 2015 11:58 (nine years ago) link

I thought this thread was de-indexed, but I'm not going to load 6864 posts to try to find out.

Je55e, Friday, 1 May 2015 15:07 (nine years ago) link


Could this thread be de-indexed?
― Je55e, Sunday, June 10, 2012 5:09 PM (2 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Done.
― 9 1/2 Gleeks (WmC), Sunday, June 10, 2012 6:20 PM (2 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

You're welcome.

Je55e, Friday, 1 May 2015 15:37 (nine years ago) link

^hero

a couple of professions have 77 threads for this stuff, maybe we could do with a general co-workers one

today i was asked to change, on a website, someone's title from

Manager, Sales and Account Services

to

Manager, Sales & Account Services

mookieproof, Monday, 4 May 2015 19:12 (nine years ago) link

Mookie, this is your safe place, but I endorse that change.

pplains, Monday, 4 May 2015 19:24 (nine years ago) link

i don't care either way, but requesting it be changed from one to the other -- which passed through at least two other people on the way to me -- is some office space shit

mookieproof, Monday, 4 May 2015 19:47 (nine years ago) link

change it to

Manager, Sales 'n' Accounting Services

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 4 May 2015 19:49 (nine years ago) link

Sales & Account Services Manager
Manager, Sales + Account Services
Manager, Sales &/or Account Services

you've got a lot of options.

Manager, Sales ampersand Account Services

Hugh G. Wreckjoke (snoball), Monday, 4 May 2015 20:08 (nine years ago) link

Manager, Sales U+0026 Account Services

Hugh G. Wreckjoke (snoball), Monday, 4 May 2015 20:09 (nine years ago) link

ban all desk-whispering

i fucking haaaaaate it

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 4 May 2015 20:34 (nine years ago) link

Oh god yes me too. I immediately react (and this is my problem tbh) with "wtf are they bitching about oh god its about me isnt it oh god"

I checked Snoops , and it is for real (Trayce), Tuesday, 5 May 2015 00:24 (nine years ago) link

totally!

coworker who sits behind me was queen of desk whispering - she returned from a 2 month leave of absence today and it's been whisperpalooza all fuckin day. i guess the reason she left was something health-related & not public knowledge but clearly can be talked about at length to anyone who asks as long as its at whisper-level

i mean i hate loudtalking just as much but surely theres a happy medium

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 5 May 2015 00:58 (nine years ago) link

Just talk in a quiet indoor voice! No yelling! No whispers!

WE WANT FET WAP (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 5 May 2015 14:44 (nine years ago) link

OTM. The susurration of a whisper cuts through my concentration far more keenly than a normal indoor voice would.

from batman to balloon dog (carl agatha), Tuesday, 5 May 2015 14:57 (nine years ago) link

i hate work whispering with a burning passion. there was an egregious instance of it the other day. at precisely 5:27pm, every day, the air condition cuts off and suddenly it's incredibly quiet in the office. you can hear people walking from way down the hall (on carpet!), elevator doors closing behind glass windows, all sorts of stuff you normally never hear. anyway, a few days ago the office was pretty deserted, and then at 5:27pm the A/C cuts off, and then a minute later i hear two people whispering ONE CUBE away from me. they went on and and on, the only two people left besides me in the entire fucking office, practically. and it was so intensely quiet, otherwise, that it felt like ASMR. in fact i think i ended up subconsciously navigating to the ASMR wikipedia page as they were doing it. anyway, it's hard to explain but when there are only 3 people within 200 feet and it's as quiet as a reserved mouse and two of the three people are whispering to each other in a way that would stimulate some people on the internet in weird dreamlike ways, i get uncomfortable

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 5 May 2015 15:03 (nine years ago) link

whispering is the worst, especially when it's in a work environment where people use it to complain or have some surreptitious bitching session. not even that i mind people bitching, just the slow seep of bad vibes from two people chuntering on at each other under their breath.

don't get why people don't just use an instant messenger if it's that secret.

bureau belfast model (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 5 May 2015 15:09 (nine years ago) link

The secretiveness is not what bugs me most about whispering, it's that the sibilant sounds are the only ones audible and they are super annoying. The (perceived) secretiveness is most annoying when you KNOW the conversation doesn't have to be secret at all! Or if it were that private, the people could go to a room w/ a closed door. I think sometimes work whispering is a way of trying to look important and powerful.

Happily, we don't have any whispering at my office, but at the social justice non-profit and the last restaurant where I worked, it was an everyday thing.

Je55e, Tuesday, 5 May 2015 18:43 (nine years ago) link

love whispering, it adds atmosphere

thoughts you made second posts about (darraghmac), Tuesday, 5 May 2015 18:45 (nine years ago) link

One of the customer service people at my bank had a very sibilant way of talking, which I know wasn't her fault, but it made everything she said sound like psss psss psst whispering and it made me want to scream at her. That branch closed down and now thank god she's out of my life.

xp >:(

Je55e, Tuesday, 5 May 2015 18:47 (nine years ago) link

My boss' work spouse has a volume level of 12. She is down the hall now.

in an awkward manor (doo dah), Tuesday, 5 May 2015 19:56 (nine years ago) link

Not co-workers, but work-people nonetheless: this week I have dealt with two (2) multi-page Official Legal Documents (a power of attorney and a financial disclosure statement) that were handwritten on legal/notebook paper, written out by lawyers. The disclosure I had sent to the lawyer in fillable PDF, and he copied the whole thing onto notebook paper.

Je55e, Tuesday, 5 May 2015 20:17 (nine years ago) link

when you take the day off and your colleagues try to facebook stalk you to see what you were 'really up to'

pretty pathetic

F♯ A♯ (∞), Tuesday, 5 May 2015 20:18 (nine years ago) link

that is insane

bureau belfast model (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 5 May 2015 20:19 (nine years ago) link

The disclosure I had sent to the lawyer in fillable PDF, and he copied the whole thing onto notebook paper.

― Je55e, Tuesday, May 5, 2015 8:17 PM (15 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

What. WHAT??? What?!?

from batman to balloon dog (carl agatha), Tuesday, 5 May 2015 20:34 (nine years ago) link

when you take the day off and your colleagues try to facebook stalk you to see what you were 'really up to'

pretty pathetic

― F♯ A♯ (∞), Tuesday, May 5, 2015 1:18 PM

Strict rule: no co-worker facebook friends. Everyone here is friendly enough, but none are people I'd want to hang out with outside of work. I might break my rule if someone I really liked started working here.

nickn, Tuesday, 5 May 2015 21:04 (nine years ago) link

I am surprised you're so surprised. What makes it more surprising is that this lawyer is barely in his 50s. xp

Je55e, Tuesday, 5 May 2015 21:05 (nine years ago) link

Why did he do that, though? If he wanted a copy, why didn't he print it out? Why did he hand copy it into a notebook?

from batman to balloon dog (carl agatha), Tuesday, 5 May 2015 21:07 (nine years ago) link

Yeah, I've told my boss, "you do not want to see what I gripe about on Facebook, and our advertisers would call for my head on a stick if they saw my posts through you." xxp

WilliamC, Tuesday, 5 May 2015 21:08 (nine years ago) link

you have to limit coworkers' fb access

Sufjan Grafton, Tuesday, 5 May 2015 21:16 (nine years ago) link

if you want to party freely

Sufjan Grafton, Tuesday, 5 May 2015 21:17 (nine years ago) link

And hope for no fb hiccups.

nickn, Tuesday, 5 May 2015 21:26 (nine years ago) link

yeah, i don't know if i'm overreacting but these types of things make me hate this place. i shouldn't complain and should just look for something else but i'll be done in 1.5 years then i can leave

F♯ A♯ (∞), Tuesday, 5 May 2015 21:31 (nine years ago) link

I think your reaction is very reasonable, but you should also change your fb settings if they're creepin on u

Sufjan Grafton, Tuesday, 5 May 2015 21:36 (nine years ago) link

feeling like coworkers are monitoring your behavior all of the time is one of the most infuriating things about working in an office. I get annoyed if someone even looks at my screen when they walk by my cubicle. to have that feeling outside of the office would surely be hell.

Sufjan Grafton, Tuesday, 5 May 2015 21:38 (nine years ago) link

my least favorite is when a co-worker monitors my IM status to know the exact moment I'm online so that they can start bombarding me with questions. Dude, I just logged in, give me a few minutes to get my bearings.

Free Me's Electric Trumpet (Moodles), Tuesday, 5 May 2015 21:57 (nine years ago) link

also, your projects are not so important that you need to schedule multiple status meetings every week that you invite me to along with several other managers and force us to sit through your excruciatingly lengthy and repetitive status updates. Just send it to me in a brief email and we should all be good, k? thx.

Free Me's Electric Trumpet (Moodles), Tuesday, 5 May 2015 22:02 (nine years ago) link

yes my project IS that important, moodles, and there have ben some fundamental shifts in our direction over the last week that i just need to bring you up to speed on so if you can go ahead and accept this invite for tomorrow from 1-3 i think that should be enough time to cover it, thanks

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 5 May 2015 22:16 (nine years ago) link

haha, karl

yeah, sufjan, that's the first thing i did. this one in particular was sending me fb messages so she can see when i read it and when i was last active and some some cryptic/nonsense message. incidentally, she is also the one looking at my monitor at work and eavesdrop on just about everyone. she can hear whispers from across the room. everyone goes to her for gossip, which is disgusting. the funny thing is with just a little bit of information she feels she knows exactly what's going on and makes assumptions, then goes on to tell others or whoever asks. when she's proved wrong, she says, well so-and-so said this so "I ASSUMED" blah blah blah...my goodness...

F♯ A♯ (∞), Tuesday, 5 May 2015 22:30 (nine years ago) link

xpost

ha, it's less "here's a shift in our direction" and more "tell us how to do our jobs", over and over again

Free Me's Electric Trumpet (Moodles), Tuesday, 5 May 2015 22:55 (nine years ago) link

karl, i thought i of you yesterday, as i was reading a piece about john beale and the epa - it reminded me of all the insane bureaucracy stories you used to tell

just1n3, Tuesday, 5 May 2015 23:30 (nine years ago) link

the other day i was browsing for cool c-span footage (my life has turned downhill) and i stumbled on one of the john beale committee hearings. brutal. what a fucking nightmare.

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 6 May 2015 03:10 (nine years ago) link

two weeks pass...

My department's number is the first one that comes up on Google UK for the company we are part of so we get all sorts of strange calls. Today someone phoned up in a complete panic saying that their husband is on secondment to the parent company doing IT work, that he'd been sent to Africa on Saturday and he hadn't been in contact with her since he left the UK. He wasn't answering his mobile, replying to e-mails or on Skype. She didn't know which hotel he was staying in so didn't even know if he'd made it from the airport to the city (a notoriously dangerous journey).

I managed to track down one of his colleagues who's also there and the MIA guy is not MIA at all. His response was apparently "oh, i've been busy, can someone phone her for me?".

Petite Lamela (ShariVari), Friday, 22 May 2015 16:50 (eight years ago) link

Husband of the year!

from batman to balloon dog (carl agatha), Friday, 22 May 2015 17:01 (eight years ago) link

lol, what a dick

bureau belfast model (LocalGarda), Friday, 22 May 2015 17:17 (eight years ago) link

the more i work the more i'm bemused by the range of people you'll get in any team whose contribution is a net minus. ie all they actually do is sow confusion by misinterpreting emails or other communications, have personal issues with being corrected or even helped that mean they demand more attention, break any process no matter how well it works, and basically just fuck things up.

it's not even always determined laziness or malice (though it can be) just like a mismatch of whatever skills they have - like a situation where it would honestly be better if there was nobody there.

bureau belfast model (LocalGarda), Friday, 22 May 2015 17:25 (eight years ago) link

Ahaha that is so true

kinder, Friday, 22 May 2015 17:35 (eight years ago) link

Stupid co-worker #459: Asking the security guard who works on the front desk out on a date with the line "My girlfriend split up with me because I'm a sex addict" is a) very probably sexual harassment and b) carried the risk of a can of pepper spray in the dave.

passive-aggressive rageaholic (snoball), Saturday, 30 May 2015 14:19 (eight years ago) link

dave = face

passive-aggressive rageaholic (snoball), Saturday, 30 May 2015 14:19 (eight years ago) link

i like dave better

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 30 May 2015 14:34 (eight years ago) link

Davebook

passive-aggressive rageaholic (snoball), Saturday, 30 May 2015 14:35 (eight years ago) link

daaaaave

Mr. Murphy in the wine bar. (Sufjan Grafton), Saturday, 30 May 2015 23:53 (eight years ago) link

Dave's not here!

nickn, Sunday, 31 May 2015 04:35 (eight years ago) link

waterdave

thoughts you made second posts about (darraghmac), Sunday, 31 May 2015 05:13 (eight years ago) link

I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that.

passive-aggressive rageaholic (snoball), Sunday, 31 May 2015 07:56 (eight years ago) link

Today I had to fix a computer in a conference room. The main door has a keypad entry system, and I don't have the code. But 'luckily' the back door to the room had been propped open with a chair, so I was able to get in anyway. Inside, there's a sign on the locked door saying 'DO NOT PROP THIS DOOR OPEN'. But there isn't any such sign on the back door. So someone obviously thought that it'd be OK to prop that open.

passive-aggressive rageaholic (snoball), Wednesday, 10 June 2015 17:53 (eight years ago) link

i am feeling intense rage toward my shitty co-workers right now.

one thing i'm not good at is sending polite follow-up messages to people who have just fucked you over. i've been trying to draft a 2-sentence email for the last half hour and i can't manage to write it without passive-aggressive tones or straight up "YOU WANNA GO?! YOU WANNA GO!?!?" interjections

legendary wireless executive (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 10 June 2015 18:20 (eight years ago) link

When I'm in that situation I've trained myself to stop and make myself do the deed in person. Is the stupid annoying coworker actually in your office, or elsewhere?

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Wednesday, 10 June 2015 19:05 (eight years ago) link

who knows where the hell they are. i was holding a kickoff meeting for a interagency presentation we have to do, and several of the key people were no shows, and finding another time where we can all meet in the next 2 weeks is pretty much impossible. so i can meet with the 4 no shows separately and explain the same 1000 things to each of them, or write an epic-length email to everyone, summarizing all the things i already explained earlier today, which they probably won't read

legendary wireless executive (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 10 June 2015 19:16 (eight years ago) link

i could just quit and go drink margaritas somewhere in the sun, too
i like that option

legendary wireless executive (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 10 June 2015 19:16 (eight years ago) link

excerpts from the (white) work chat channel

"Talking of mysterious strangers, who is the (black) guy who keeps pausing by our desks and writing on his clipboard?"

bureau belfast model (LocalGarda), Thursday, 11 June 2015 13:29 (eight years ago) link

It'd be tacky to mention the guy's race, but it's a legitimate question though, right?

http://www.theonion.com/article/totally-unknown-guy-strolling-around-your-part-of--38335

pplains, Thursday, 11 June 2015 13:54 (eight years ago) link

haha - i guess i'm in a less corporate environment than that - the majority of the building services staff are black here - this feels like an inane to unpleasant question based on that (and the fact the guy was clearly measuring desks)

it reminds me of working in bbc in tunbridge wells about 8 years ago - there was this loudmouth but fairly well-meaning producer and another researcher had just started and was a bit confused about who was who - and i think she had got say, a victoria, and a vicky mixed up. and the producer was like all matter of fact "oh well don't worry, victoria is the secretary who works in the second room on the left by the editor's office, and vicky is the producer who is black"

*echo*

bureau belfast model (LocalGarda), Thursday, 11 June 2015 14:01 (eight years ago) link

we send out welcome/introduction e-mails when a new employee is hired. Head of HR just sent out one for this new German dude we hired incl this juicy little tidbit: "His friends in Germany claim he has an American accent; his wife claims he sounds British – stop by his desk, introduce yourself, and feel free to weigh in on the matter!"

ya thx hr person for the great suggestion of "let's accost the foreignner and make him feel weird abt his silly accent!!", wtg

WE WANT FET WAP (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 11 June 2015 17:21 (eight years ago) link

Don't mention the war

kinder, Thursday, 11 June 2015 17:31 (eight years ago) link

But do mention 'dinner for one'

kinder, Thursday, 11 June 2015 17:32 (eight years ago) link

Someone sent out a mass email this week about ordering supplies and to see him if we needed anything, the Director wrote back 'We are terribly low on gin' but replied-all, even the Executive Directors.. no bitching, just bragging, I kind of love her.

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Thursday, 11 June 2015 19:58 (eight years ago) link

^^^rare example of extremely appropriate use of "Reply All"

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Thursday, 11 June 2015 20:29 (eight years ago) link

boss: here are jan-may sales reports, lets think about cutting the bottom sellers
me: *spends several hours going over reports and making a spreadsheet* here are the ones we should cut
boss: (tl;dl) NO*

boss: what do you think we should do about the windows
me: get rid of all the clutter and dust, stop putting boring old stuff on display
boss: (tl;dl) NO

boss: what do you think we should do to make the store look better?
me: get rid of all the clutter and streamline
boss: (tl;dl) NO

wtf she keeps asking me all the time for my opinion, i have no idea. she shoots down 99% of my (tbh perfectly great) ideas, with long rambly nonsensical explanations.

*i show her we've only sold 16 of this particular garment in 6 months (a good amount would be around a min. of 80) and her response is "well i sold two pairs the other day so we should keep them" !?!?!?!?

just1n3, Friday, 12 June 2015 03:21 (eight years ago) link

"well i sold two pairs the other day so we should keep them" this really tells the story. ugh.

Je55e, Friday, 12 June 2015 14:44 (eight years ago) link

It reminds me of a restaurant where I worked in NC that took a popular shrimp dish off the menu because it was popular. Managers thought customers should try something different.

Je55e, Friday, 12 June 2015 15:00 (eight years ago) link

Was that our restaurant?

from batman to balloon dog (carl agatha), Friday, 12 June 2015 15:03 (eight years ago) link

Yes. That fucking place.

Je55e, Friday, 12 June 2015 15:07 (eight years ago) link

lol

'you guys always order the same thing, as the people selling it to you we are not totally comfortable with that'

j., Friday, 12 June 2015 15:09 (eight years ago) link

at least uncle julio's perimeter wouldn't pull any of that shit

bizarro gazzara, Friday, 12 June 2015 15:21 (eight years ago) link

i respect the shrimp decision

goole, Friday, 12 June 2015 16:54 (eight years ago) link

i work on a db of org data. one of our attribs is a normalized legal name of the org. we call it a "canonical name". someone pinged me saying their search was throwing an error.

the search string:

cononical_name:capital records*

goole, Friday, 12 June 2015 16:59 (eight years ago) link

i think i understood that

AKA Thermo Thinwall (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 12 June 2015 17:03 (eight years ago) link

conanical_name:Conaco*

mad maxwell's wasteland death suite (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 12 June 2015 17:56 (eight years ago) link

i think they owe you some kind of free sandwich for that waste of your time

j., Friday, 12 June 2015 17:57 (eight years ago) link

they were chipper enough when i sent them an email with two iterations of the phrase "i think it's spelled..."

goole, Friday, 12 June 2015 20:29 (eight years ago) link

was it shrimp & grits?

mookieproof, Saturday, 13 June 2015 00:19 (eight years ago) link

Yup.

from batman to balloon dog (carl agatha), Saturday, 13 June 2015 00:50 (eight years ago) link

smdh

mookieproof, Saturday, 13 June 2015 00:50 (eight years ago) link

so this week, the project lead goes on vacation, which was fine. But on Thursday I stumble across this transition plan which has several assignments for me and other people to do that she'd never shared or discussed with us.

Fortunately, the tasks were very small so we got them done quickly, but I gave the lead the head's up to explain why they were done late. She apologized, but said she thought I knew about it since she'd sent an email saying I was her backup.

The email was sent to a whopping two people telling them to come to me with any urgent questions. No mention of the plan/tasks at all.

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Saturday, 13 June 2015 00:55 (eight years ago) link

was it shrimp & grits?

No! They kept the shrimp 'n grits! It was coconut curry shrimp.

Je55e, Saturday, 13 June 2015 12:48 (eight years ago) link

a whopping two people telling them to come to me with any urgent questions.

this is a thing. people have it in their minds that one item is part of a package of connected stuff, because that's how it appears to them, so if they communicate that one bit all the rest of it comes attached in your mind, too. of course, it never occurs to them that you were never let in on the whole package at any time. my wife does this constantly.

Aimless, Saturday, 13 June 2015 17:54 (eight years ago) link

I have this problem at work too. Recently, a couple of weeks before a big corporate event, people were told 'if you need anything related to <EVENT>, speak to <name of department snoball works for> well ahead of time'. Practically every request came in the day before.

passive-aggressive rageaholic (snoball), Saturday, 13 June 2015 18:27 (eight years ago) link

yea. but to be clear I was aware that people were being directed to me as backup for THAT purpose and was ready to serve in that capacity (it just turned out nobody needed anything). but there were other tasks like updating reports and such, and usually what we do is have a 15 minute discussion to talk through it with the backup to make sure they are on board/know what to do. in this case she was so focused on going to Hawaii that she forgot is what I'm guessing, which I would have preferred as her response as opposed to "I thought you knew".

but w/e, it turned out to be minor this time at least.

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Saturday, 13 June 2015 18:44 (eight years ago) link

Officemate has read out the first 3 sentences of a document that was sent round in an indignant voice with lots of sighing and "gah!"-ing and tutting at the grammar, punctuation, entire concept of document

the document is 57 pages long so today is going to be a very long day if every sentence has to be read out and commented on

undergraduate dance (a passing spacecadet), Monday, 15 June 2015 11:59 (eight years ago) link

People who read anything aloud, especially if it's from the Internet and especially if it's from The Onion.

pplains, Monday, 15 June 2015 13:21 (eight years ago) link

office guy who walks back and forward to the fridge 100 times a day just walked past with a tub of butter in his hand, stopped and said "oh shit I thought this was the mustard" then went back to the fridge

There was Bjork from Iceland and Alanis Morissette from Canada (onimo), Monday, 15 June 2015 16:57 (eight years ago) link

^me irl

badg, Monday, 15 June 2015 17:38 (eight years ago) link

The importance of properly labeling one's tubs.

No Darts Or Chasms In The Classroom (Old Lunch), Monday, 15 June 2015 17:40 (eight years ago) link

Mustard doesn't come in tubs.

from batman to balloon dog (carl agatha), Monday, 15 June 2015 17:46 (eight years ago) link

Not in God's own United States of America, at least.

from batman to balloon dog (carl agatha), Monday, 15 June 2015 17:47 (eight years ago) link

I figured that onimo's workplace refrigerator must be crammed full of nearly identical industrial-size condiment containers with generic labeling. It's the only scenario I could imagine that didn't involve his coworker suffering from some sort of brain event.

No Darts Or Chasms In The Classroom (Old Lunch), Monday, 15 June 2015 17:56 (eight years ago) link

obviously just trying to find excuses to show off his condiment tubs.

AKA Thermo Thinwall (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 15 June 2015 18:03 (eight years ago) link

Skipping 6864 messages? This'll be a good thread for the flight.

Mark G, Monday, 15 June 2015 18:08 (eight years ago) link

Tired of hauling a nine-pound tub of condiments back to your desk, only to find that you've grabbed the wrong tub of condiments?

Tawny Haunches (Old Lunch), Monday, 15 June 2015 18:09 (eight years ago) link

"I can't believe this isn't mustard!"

pplains, Monday, 15 June 2015 18:11 (eight years ago) link

Couple days ago, at the work kitchen, there were 100 knives, and al I needed was a knife.

That was ironic.

Mark G, Monday, 15 June 2015 18:13 (eight years ago) link

I could literally contribute a few quality stories to this thread every week but I do most of my ILXoring at work and I'm always paranoid that someone is going to creep up on me while I'm writing about the incredibly stupid thing they did that day.

Tawny Haunches (Old Lunch), Monday, 15 June 2015 18:17 (eight years ago) link

Couple days ago, at the work kitchen, there were 100 knives, and al I needed was a fork

That was ironic. Dammit!

Mark G, Monday, 15 June 2015 18:45 (eight years ago) link

I figured that was like a koan or something.

Tawny Haunches (Old Lunch), Monday, 15 June 2015 18:48 (eight years ago) link

he only needed one knife

too young for seapunk (Moodles), Monday, 15 June 2015 20:13 (eight years ago) link

I can confirm that fridge guy keeps his butter in a standard tub that things like butter and can't believe it's utterly butterly come in and keeps his mustard in a standard little mustard jar.

I've probably posted in this thread dozens of times and almost every post is about this same guy.
He's the same guy who clips his fingernails at his desk. You can hear them hitting things.
He's the same guy who once started flossing his teeth(!) while I was speaking to him.
He's the same guy who thinks he's singing but is actually repeating lyrics in a style that can only be described as "William Shatner if he was from Edinburgh".
He sometimes gives a commentary on what he's doing and what he's planning.
He talks to the fridge, and not just about fridge stuff - like last week a colleague overheard him telling the fridge he was going for a sauna later in the afternoon.
He picks up his phone, presses lots of random numbers really loudly, waits five seconds, then slams the phone down and says "aw for fuck's sake!" like there was some urgent and key business conversation he was prevented from having.
He opens filing cabinets and browses across the files with the tips of his fingers like a vinyl record shopper then closes the cabinets again without ever taking a file out.
He once tried to get me to feel how thick his socks were ("best ay gear by the way!").

There was Bjork from Iceland and Alanis Morissette from Canada (onimo), Tuesday, 16 June 2015 13:32 (eight years ago) link

He sounds amazing. Like I don't think I could hate him. I'd just be grateful to have someone so ridiculous and absurd in my life.

(Assuming I didn't have to work directly with him or count on him in any way.)

from batman to balloon dog (carl agatha), Tuesday, 16 June 2015 13:50 (eight years ago) link

Yeah, same here, but with the same caveat that I have more likely a chance of meeting a man who walked on the moon than ever having a "William Shatner if he was from Edinburgh" sitting at the desk next to me.

pplains, Tuesday, 16 June 2015 13:56 (eight years ago) link

man this thread. i just want to thank you all for keeping my head on straight every time i get a little bored and fidgety working for myself (mostly) from home.

big fat rascal (will), Tuesday, 16 June 2015 13:59 (eight years ago) link

He talks to the fridge, and not just about fridge stuff - like last week a colleague overheard him telling the fridge he was going for a sauna later in the afternoon.

this is killing me

bizarro gazzara, Tuesday, 16 June 2015 14:27 (eight years ago) link

the eight-person team i work in has just moved into a single space after several years of being split across a couple of adjacent rooms. we all have access to a shared general email address which gets a fair amount of mail each day. every time a message comes in, six or seven of my colleagues' work iphones will play a notification sound, so 30 times a day or more it sounds like someone has dropped a bunch of tiny bells on the floor and it is driving. me. insane.

no-one else seems to mind tho wtf grrr

bizarro gazzara, Tuesday, 16 June 2015 14:33 (eight years ago) link

> He talks to the fridge, and not just about fridge stuff

as if that would be ok

koogs, Tuesday, 16 June 2015 14:34 (eight years ago) link

Some ediscovery vendor sent me a marketing package that includes a box bearing the slogan "Just trying to GET MY FOOT IN THE DOOR!" and containing a chocolate foot.

Note: I have so little purchasing power in my firm that I couldn't even get IT to provide me with an ergonomic keyboard, even with HR approval, but thanks for the chocolate foot.

from batman to balloon dog (carl agatha), Tuesday, 16 June 2015 14:36 (eight years ago) link

> He talks to the fridge, and not just about fridge stuff

as if that would be ok

― koogs, Tuesday, 16 June 2015 15:34 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

well I know but you'd maybe accept the odd "I'll just take that milk home with me because it won't last the weekend"

Me and this guy are always the last two in the office for the last hour or so and he drives me crazy. He goes around and checks that everyone else has locked all their cupboards and drawers - then does it again - then again. He basically spends his whole day finding ways of not working.

We have a machine at the end of the office where you can check your flexi-time balance. He wanders up to it going "Ah'll just check how the old flexi campaign is doing" then you hear the beep as he swipes his card. He does this at least five times in the last hour of every day. So he checks it and it says he's +20 minutes then checks it again 10 minutes later to discover he's +30 minutes. What does he expect to happen?

He is always checking that the trains are running. He works attends till 6 or 7 o'clock most evenings yet is checking train departures before lunchtime. Also he lives less than 20 minutes walk from the office and therefore a train problem has p much no effect on him.

Today's lyric on repeat is "Step inside, love, I want you to step inside, love".

There was Bjork from Iceland and Alanis Morissette from Canada (onimo), Tuesday, 16 June 2015 15:12 (eight years ago) link

He picks up his phone, presses lots of random numbers really loudly, waits five seconds, then slams the phone down and says "aw for fuck's sake!" like there was some urgent and key business conversation he was prevented from having.

this one made me lol so much

xp this guy is spectrum as fuck tho basically, eh?

Who M the best? (Will M.), Tuesday, 16 June 2015 15:30 (eight years ago) link

sometimes you think he's got ocd and/or some other mental health issues but I don't think it's autism or Asperger's or anything like that. He is perfectly capable of carrying out everyday activities, holding genial/amusing/sympathetic conversations, going to social events, etc.

I think he's just worked out a set of ridiculous routines that get him away from his desk because he finds work difficult (or because he's a lazy skiving git). The talking/singing to objects/himself thing is probably down to living alone for decades - he's a 50-something bachelor who hasn't had a long term partner for at least ten years.

There was Bjork from Iceland and Alanis Morissette from Canada (onimo), Tuesday, 16 June 2015 15:42 (eight years ago) link

He's currently shouting at no-one (or possible me, idk).

"It's the last week ay flexi and everybody's away hame. Something wrong wi that!"

"I just sneezed! Couldnae believe it! No again!"

"I need to stop eating raw garlic!"

There was Bjork from Iceland and Alanis Morissette from Canada (onimo), Tuesday, 16 June 2015 15:49 (eight years ago) link

I am 100% that my being fully partnered up for the past 15 years is the only thing keeping me from this type of existence

Killarney Hilton (darraghmac), Tuesday, 16 June 2015 15:53 (eight years ago) link

legit loled again at the fact that a) he is surprised he sneezed again and b) he said it out loud even though i imagine anyone woh can hear him yelling can also hear him sneeze

Who M the best? (Will M.), Tuesday, 16 June 2015 16:03 (eight years ago) link

dude is our thread mascot

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 16 June 2015 16:17 (eight years ago) link

hahahahaha my assistant was just in my office absent-mindedly combing her hair with a fork. When I pointed it out to her she said, "Oh yeah I left my comb at home."

from batman to balloon dog (carl agatha), Tuesday, 16 June 2015 16:28 (eight years ago) link

dude is our thread mascot

― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, June 16, 2015 4:17 PM (11 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

onimo never quit your job.

Going to go around the rest of the day muttering to myself, "I just sneezed! Couldnae believe it! No again!"

from batman to balloon dog (carl agatha), Tuesday, 16 June 2015 16:29 (eight years ago) link

past couple of minutes I've had


♫ daddy come home ♫

ow ow ouch ouch aaargh (he does a lot of these random grunts and groans)

♫ i just gotta tell yaaa! ♫

am bloody STARVIN' bytheway! (*goes to fridge again*)

There was Bjork from Iceland and Alanis Morissette from Canada (onimo), Tuesday, 16 June 2015 16:39 (eight years ago) link

I'm a fan def

designated hitler (darraghmac), Tuesday, 16 June 2015 16:47 (eight years ago) link

Reminds me of this classic thread: A thread for Steve n.'s list of songs that his boss sings

Snapper Raffles (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 16 June 2015 16:55 (eight years ago) link

> The talking/singing to objects/himself thing is probably down to living alone for decades

*SOBS*

i find myself repeating odd words or phrases back to the television and then realising that those were the only 3 words i'd spoken aloud all day. to nobody.

koogs, Tuesday, 16 June 2015 17:22 (eight years ago) link

I'm totally hearing this guy in my head as a Burnistoun character.

I checked Snoops , and it is for real (Trayce), Tuesday, 16 June 2015 23:11 (eight years ago) link

He talks to the fridge

and not just about fridge stuff

Je55e, Wednesday, 17 June 2015 05:46 (eight years ago) link

"How d'ye feel about contributin' to Global Warming, by the way? No offence, like.."

Mark G, Wednesday, 17 June 2015 10:31 (eight years ago) link

today's only song snippet so far was a rather tuneful

♫ that's... ♫

not my name?
entertainment?
life?
the way love goes?

There was Bjork from Iceland and Alanis Morissette from Canada (onimo), Wednesday, 17 June 2015 12:09 (eight years ago) link

the way, uh-hu uh-hu...

AKA Thermo Thinwall (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 17 June 2015 13:33 (eight years ago) link

♫ daddy oh daddy come home, ba bong bong bum ♫

ye know I've never considered a chair could be a work of art before but ma eyes were opened that day bytheway. A FUCKIN' CHAIR!

There was Bjork from Iceland and Alanis Morissette from Canada (onimo), Thursday, 18 June 2015 15:37 (eight years ago) link

Was he saying that TO anyone? :|

I checked Snoops , and it is for real (Trayce), Friday, 19 June 2015 01:12 (eight years ago) link

I think so but I've no idea - sometimes it's just two of us in the office in the evening and I go to answer him and realise he's completely oblivious to my presence and chatting away to no-one.

He's mentioned liking Charles Rennie Mackintosh before so I'm guessing he visited an exhibition and enjoyed the chairs.

There was Bjork from Iceland and Alanis Morissette from Canada (onimo), Friday, 19 June 2015 12:24 (eight years ago) link

I overheard him telling a colleague how a barmaid gave him a handkerchief because she noticed he was always blowing his nose. He said "'dye no hate when people notice yer habits?" - not realising he has a million of them and everyone notices all of them all the time. Also now I can't stop noticing him blowing his nose :(

Randomness earlier included "helped myself tae that smoked cheese" and lots of pained noises including actually saying the word "ouch" repeatedly.

There was Bjork from Iceland and Alanis Morissette from Canada (onimo), Friday, 19 June 2015 12:30 (eight years ago) link

Smoked cheese must not have agreed with him.

from batman to balloon dog (carl agatha), Friday, 19 June 2015 12:36 (eight years ago) link

he just shouted

"It's no the lassie's fault! It's no the lassie's fault!"

There was Bjork from Iceland and Alanis Morissette from Canada (onimo), Friday, 19 June 2015 13:25 (eight years ago) link

The accent elevates this nonsense a lot.

Je55e, Friday, 19 June 2015 17:35 (eight years ago) link

It does add an element of charm that I suspect is missing from onimo's actual experiences

as verbose and purple as a Peter Ustinov made of plums (James Morrison), Sunday, 21 June 2015 08:29 (eight years ago) link

hmmm ... my boss just told me he expects me to clock 50 hours per week during the summer. considering telling him to go fuck himself, but he did soften the blow by telling me he doesn't mind if i do some of those hours from home. so what should i do, tell him to go fuck himself, or just go home and not work. decisions decisions.

the late great, Sunday, 28 June 2015 21:39 (eight years ago) link

btw this is my boss who is always talking about pulling 70-80 hour work weeks. and the last big project he took on was to "edit" a big project i'd done, which he mostly worked on between midnight and three am (we start work at noon) and btw he royally fucked the whole thing up and then blamed it on the conversion between my mac and his PC. uh, no, converting files between mac and PC doesn't scramble paragraphs of latex code, tired people who should be sleeping at 1 am do that.

the late great, Sunday, 28 June 2015 21:46 (eight years ago) link

the sad part is that my boss is actually a really nice guy, so i will probably just end up clocking those really unproductive 50 hour weeks so as not to rock the boat

the late great, Sunday, 28 June 2015 21:48 (eight years ago) link

i am not seriously considering telling him to go fuck himself, but i am seriously considering switching to part time + contract work. only problem is then i'd have to like, buy obamacare and build / claim a home office and that's a whole level of hassle i'm not comfortable with right now

the late great, Sunday, 28 June 2015 21:55 (eight years ago) link

I work from home two days a week - it is a huge boost to your quality of life ime. on so many levels it alleviates stress.

bureau belfast model (LocalGarda), Sunday, 28 June 2015 21:57 (eight years ago) link

i like working from home, but i am not highly productive at home. i get easily distracted by my dog + housecleaning. i would rather just work 40 productive hours than 50 half-assed hours.

the late great, Sunday, 28 June 2015 22:00 (eight years ago) link

could my coworkers not fuck each other, please?

or maybe just do a convincing job of pretending like they're not while at work.

circles, Saturday, 11 July 2015 20:10 (eight years ago) link

u jeal

mookieproof, Saturday, 11 July 2015 20:31 (eight years ago) link

They've probably done it in Meeting Room B

kinder, Saturday, 11 July 2015 21:48 (eight years ago) link

You know, if you are one of seven people that your assistant supports, and Christmas or Administrative Professional's Day* or her 30th freaking anniversary with the firm rolls around and the other six people your assistant supports go in on a gift for her, you are a real heel if you opt out again like you have every time for the last three years, JUST FYI.

*I think this this is absolute bullshit, and appreciation is better shown with higher salary, better benefits, treating support staff as peers and not underlings, being generally respectful, etc. way better than plants BUT when in Rome...

from batman to balloon dog (carl agatha), Monday, 13 July 2015 14:08 (eight years ago) link

Like, $10 to the woman who juggles a shit ton of fiddly administrative bullshit from seven people so you can concentrate on your big, important legal thoughts is really not too fucking much to ask.

from batman to balloon dog (carl agatha), Monday, 13 July 2015 14:09 (eight years ago) link

Ew!!! What the fuck is wrong with people?!? S/he is a fucking LAWYER, right?? I mean... I prooooobably make less than them and *I* could spare $10 for a nice person.

WE WANT FET WAP (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 13 July 2015 16:06 (eight years ago) link

This guy honestly believes that she doesn't do enough work for him to justify his contribution to any group gift, which I know for a fact to be a ridiculous assertion. Not to say that she does more stuff for him than for the rest of us, but she does a lot! And we all work remotely so she's basically like a physical extension of ourselves for the purposes of handling physical things like faxing, copying, taking stuff to various places, mailing... I don't know man.

from batman to balloon dog (carl agatha), Monday, 13 July 2015 16:16 (eight years ago) link

Like if he were in the office every day, I could maaaaaaybe see his point but he works from a different state! He comes into the office maybe twice a year and only when his computer fucks up and requires in-person service.

from batman to balloon dog (carl agatha), Monday, 13 July 2015 16:17 (eight years ago) link

a lawyer being an asshole? I'm *shocked* i tells ya. *shocked!*

AKA Thermo Thinwall (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 13 July 2015 19:04 (eight years ago) link

ikr

from batman to balloon dog (carl agatha), Monday, 13 July 2015 19:13 (eight years ago) link

Fuuuu... I just had a six-second fantasy about becoming a lawyer specifically in order not to act like this. Luckily Carl has this covered already.

ljubljana, Monday, 13 July 2015 23:33 (eight years ago) link

I'm managing an idealistic young social justice warrior firebrand so if I've been curmudgeonly lately with ilx I'll ask for yr understandings

irl lol (darraghmac), Monday, 13 July 2015 23:52 (eight years ago) link

I was an admin/paralegal before I went to law school and I made a vow that I would always approach support staff as equals. I think I've stuck to it well but you'd probably have to ask the admins I've worked with to be sure. I admit that sometimes I am a real stereotypical ding dong lawyer when it comes to IT stuff but in my defense, everything about computers changed in the three years I was in law school and now I'm more or less an old man yelling at clouds re: tech.

Like I shit you not, five minutes ago I turned on my laptop, thought, "God this thing is dirty" and then thought, "I wonder if that's a thing people ever call the service desk about..."

from batman to balloon dog (carl agatha), Tuesday, 14 July 2015 01:53 (eight years ago) link

speaking as an underling, I don't hate doing my job but i do hate being the object of intra-office group-pressured gift-giving and would be grossed out by any concern-trolling on my behalf. no one at work knows when my birthday is for this reason. just my two cents!

e-bouquet (mattresslessness), Tuesday, 14 July 2015 02:45 (eight years ago) link

I wouldn't call my post concern trolling. Thanks for your two cents. I'll put them towards the flowers.

from batman to balloon dog (carl agatha), Tuesday, 14 July 2015 02:56 (eight years ago) link

The best flowers don't cost anything.

e-bouquet (mattresslessness), Tuesday, 14 July 2015 03:39 (eight years ago) link

yeah just swipe 'em off a gravestone like a normal person jeez

bizarro gazzara, Tuesday, 14 July 2015 09:07 (eight years ago) link

two weeks pass...

I share a room at work (separated by a cubicle divider) with a woman who is the single most obtuse human being I have ever met. She has been arguing with an insurance customer service rep for the past half hour because she is (inexplicably) angry that her homeowners insurance is going to be included in her mortgage payment rather than billed separately, and that they didn't tell her they were going to do this in advance, etc. But this is pretty much always the way it works with a mortgage. And why would she even have a problem with that? It’s still the same price. But more importantly... SHE IS A MORTGAGE LITIGATION PARALEGAL AND SHE DOES NOT KNOW THIS.

Gatemouth, Friday, 31 July 2015 15:32 (eight years ago) link

This is just one in a series of long, loud, seemingly pointless arguments she has gotten into with customer service representatives while I try in vain to ignore her.

Gatemouth, Friday, 31 July 2015 15:48 (eight years ago) link

"Wrong fuckin place at the wrong fuckin time!
I just can't get enough,
I just can't get enough,
Wrong fuckin place,
I just can't seem to get enough of

Aaah aaah ouch!"

passive aggressive DN (onimo), Tuesday, 4 August 2015 16:52 (eight years ago) link

In an argument about the tube strike yesterday, our catering manager told me that a strike couldn't happen in the catering industry because "it just wouldn't work. The company would still need to provide a service, you see, and if the staff aren't there it's very difficult for them to do that."

sktsh, Thursday, 6 August 2015 08:25 (eight years ago) link

ha classic

kinder, Thursday, 6 August 2015 09:25 (eight years ago) link

amazing

9 days from now a.k.a next weekend. (dog latin), Thursday, 6 August 2015 15:23 (eight years ago) link

Condensed version of an email conversation that has been wasting my time for the last 45 minutes -

CO-WORKERS: Why did we change the graphic on this page from a static one to a video?

ME: We didn't, it's a looping GIF from the video relevant to the page topic.

CW: But why did we change it?

ME: To see if we could keep people on the page and increase conversions.

CW: I don't like it.

CW 2: I agree, it might confuse people as to what the page is about.

ME: This page is converting at over 13% and most of the traffic comes from another page that makes its purpose clear.

CW 2: How are you determining conversions?

ME (mentally): GET THE FUCK BACK TO WORK FOR FUCK'S SAKE.

I might like you better if we Yelped together (Phil D.), Thursday, 6 August 2015 15:46 (eight years ago) link

non-stop tunelessly whistling guy is going to do me in

big fat rascal (will), Saturday, 8 August 2015 20:39 (eight years ago) link

paraphrased text messages

me yesterday: i'm on vacation aug 13-28. do not call, text or email me during that time. rachel will be doing my job while i'm away. send your orders and inventories to her then.

cw today: [sends through order] should i also send this to rachel?

NO. NO YOU SHOULDN'T.

just1n3, Saturday, 8 August 2015 22:52 (eight years ago) link

Wait, so.... you're doing your job before Aug 13 and after Aug 28
and Rachel will be doing your job between Aug 13 and Aug 28

so

if it's before Aug 13

Rachel should be doing your job, right? right??? god, i was always so bad at word problems!!! can someone plz parse this confusing blob of words for me????? what's going on what is job even

Y Kant Max Read (Stevie D(eux)), Saturday, 8 August 2015 23:13 (eight years ago) link

Stevie, you should send everything to J between aug 13-28, but just copy Rachel, ok?

ljubljana, Saturday, 8 August 2015 23:16 (eight years ago) link

i'm not copying Rachel if I can just send it to J. she has her phone on her so I'm just going to do that; rachel need not get involved here.

Y Kant Max Read (Stevie D(eux)), Saturday, 8 August 2015 23:36 (eight years ago) link

ok so i'll contact her on monday? and after THAT you are like dead or whatever? cool cool

also um who is this rachel i mean do we even know her like what if i have ~personal~ concerns

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 8 August 2015 23:53 (eight years ago) link

Yeah, why did J even set this up? I'm gonna email Rachel about it. If I don't get a reply by around, say, Aug 14, then I'll contact J to find out just what was going on here.

ljubljana, Saturday, 8 August 2015 23:55 (eight years ago) link

YOU GUYS ARE THE WOOOOOOOORST

just1n3, Sunday, 9 August 2015 00:28 (eight years ago) link

this is what every work day is like. trying to explain simple concepts to dummies. including my boss. which reminds me:

boss: so what's our website? xxxxxxxx✧✧✧@m✧✧.c✧✧?
me: no

just1n3, Sunday, 9 August 2015 00:29 (eight years ago) link

remember that she has run this business for 35 years, and the online store has had the same url for like 10 years

just1n3, Sunday, 9 August 2015 00:30 (eight years ago) link

lol

how's life, Sunday, 9 August 2015 00:30 (eight years ago) link

omg

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 9 August 2015 00:40 (eight years ago) link

skype it to her inbox (uhh yeah dude joke, applicable here tho)

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 9 August 2015 00:42 (eight years ago) link

lol

― how's life, Saturday, August 8, 2015 7:30 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

no actually not lol, as someone who works 45h/week at a help desk where I regularly (i.e. several times each and every day) have to explain to ppl in unfathomable detail how to go to a website (e.g. how to open a web browser, what a web browser even is, to type the URL in the address bar instead of a search engine box, what and where the address bar even is, to press ENTER after typing in the URL instead of clicking on the magnifying glass icon, etc) the agony is real, like you suddenly are faced w/ the task of explaining what you thought were the most basic concepts to ppl but actually having to break them down into even more basic pieces that you had never even contemplated ppl wouldn't already know

fuck evry1

Y Kant Max Read (Stevie D(eux)), Sunday, 9 August 2015 07:27 (eight years ago) link

^^^ real talk

It's been years since I've worked on a helpdesk, but as second line support we still get the occasional call like that escalated to us. Then there's the face-to-face encounters where co-workers forget the hard drive encryption password on their company laptop that was issued to them the day before that they got to set to whatever they wanted and then they wrote down.

more side eye than a Picasso (snoball), Sunday, 9 August 2015 08:23 (eight years ago) link

what if i have ~personal~ concerns

― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl

almost fp

irl lol (darraghmac), Sunday, 9 August 2015 09:41 (eight years ago) link

just curious, what's the longest review process that anyone has had to endure for a document (a SOP in this case) that was less than 8 pages long?

1992 ball boy (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 11 August 2015 17:48 (eight years ago) link

you mean outside of academia

j., Tuesday, 11 August 2015 17:52 (eight years ago) link

Do you mean how long does it take someone to review it or how long do you go back and forth with revisions? Because either way a long ass time.

carl agatha, Tuesday, 11 August 2015 17:56 (eight years ago) link

outside of academia

back and forth with revisions, i guess. i'm going on month seven, although there hasn't been constant communication, that's for sure. typically each stage has involved about 2-3 weeks of waiting for a response. one division will suggest a change, i'll make it, a solstice occurs, send it over to the division that's involved, wait a month, they ask a question about the change, an equinox occurs, i get an answer and/or make a few small changes in response, send it back over, wait a few weeks, another solstice comes up on the calendar, etc

1992 ball boy (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 11 August 2015 18:00 (eight years ago) link

Oh okay never that long. Dang.

carl agatha, Tuesday, 11 August 2015 18:03 (eight years ago) link

my entire job is basically writing documents, getting them checked for facts by the people who wrote the old labyrinthine source content, and then attempting to publish them as quickly as possible, and i would say that unless there is a structure imposed on people and a system and it's agreed on by everyone, eg that when i send you this you take a week to return it, i take a week to make an edit, you get your final look at it for a week, then i publish it, unless there is a system like that it can take forever and ever.

it's v hard for you to impose such a system if this is just one document and your job isn't about getting documents published, but i dunno, maybe you can find a way of applying pressure?

doing my Objectives, handling some intense stuff (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 11 August 2015 18:08 (eight years ago) link

it also might work to get a single point of contact in the division you're sending it to, someone who'll collate other people's responses or take more responsibility for getting it done for you.

doing my Objectives, handling some intense stuff (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 11 August 2015 18:10 (eight years ago) link

someone has left a billy graham book in the break room

corbyn's gallus (jim in glasgow), Tuesday, 11 August 2015 18:11 (eight years ago) link

Whenever I get bummed about my job, I read Karl Malone's posts and I feel better about it.

just1n3, Tuesday, 11 August 2015 18:24 (eight years ago) link

xpost

it's just one point of contact on the other side (who is collating other people's responses), it's just that seemingly every minor change or adjustment needs to be run through several layers of management, and inevitably someone is on vacation for several weeks). true on my side, too. all of this for a document that i'm sure will just sit on the shelf.

1992 ball boy (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 11 August 2015 18:26 (eight years ago) link

Xpost
Maybe it's time for someone to draw a penis in the Billy Graham book in the break room

1992 ball boy (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 11 August 2015 18:27 (eight years ago) link

I don't know who goes through the trouble of cutting out the individual Burger King coupons from their junk mail and then laying them out evenly on one of the break room tables, but I just want to give them a hug, look them in the eye, and say, "You don't have to do this. Really."

pplains, Tuesday, 11 August 2015 18:35 (eight years ago) link

sounds more like an invitation to join a really elaborate mind game. step one is to replace the coupons with the burger king items that they correspond to

1992 ball boy (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 11 August 2015 18:41 (eight years ago) link

Xpost
Maybe it's time for someone to draw a penis in the Billy Graham book in the break room

― 1992 ball boy (Karl Malone)

great idea, worried about getting caught executing it.

corbyn's gallus (jim in glasgow), Tuesday, 11 August 2015 18:42 (eight years ago) link

just do the drawing in your own billy graham book and then switch it out when no one's in there!

1992 ball boy (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 11 August 2015 18:44 (eight years ago) link

Or a name tag sticker, repurposed. Peel, stick, walk away. Whistling atonally.

Hydroelectric New Deal Demiurge (B.L.A.M.), Wednesday, 12 August 2015 12:53 (eight years ago) link

So, according to what one co-worker told another yesterday I handed my notice in on Friday. (I didn't.)

suffeeciant attreebution (aldo), Tuesday, 25 August 2015 09:43 (eight years ago) link

got into work today and this was on the desk i sat at:

http://mastermindmatrix.com/knowledge-base/qualities-of-success/

I googled the site and there are hundreds of "mind maps".

http://mastermindmatrix.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/beliefs-convictions-mastermind-matrix.jpg

Can anyone shed any light here? This is terrifying.

doing my Objectives, handling some intense stuff (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 25 August 2015 12:37 (eight years ago) link

gotta be a joke, right? there's a genie floating between "beliefs" and "knowing"!

1994 ball boy (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 25 August 2015 13:15 (eight years ago) link

i don't think so. the site seems to sell these sincerely.

doing my Objectives, handling some intense stuff (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 25 August 2015 13:18 (eight years ago) link

the whole thing is like if one of those awful spammy content farms decided to branch out into self-help systems

1994 ball boy (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 25 August 2015 13:20 (eight years ago) link

How to Twitter:

http://i.imgur.com/AShLLTZ.png

1994 ball boy (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 25 August 2015 13:21 (eight years ago) link

i don't know, i hate to be so dichotomizing but whoever left that at your desk is either completely insane or a truly wonderful person

1994 ball boy (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 25 August 2015 13:22 (eight years ago) link

http://gallery.iqmatrix.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/a-humble-heart-mind-map-ipad.png

a humble heart

xpost i can only see insanity. the weird thing is one of my co-workers produced a chart of work someone sent to him that looks like a civil service version of the same. similar colours even.

hard to tell who it is as lots of people come and go.

doing my Objectives, handling some intense stuff (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 25 August 2015 13:24 (eight years ago) link

looks ripped straight from the pages of john doe's serial-killer diary

bizarro gazzara, Tuesday, 25 August 2015 13:37 (eight years ago) link

Got a chart on an iPad, Jack
Set it down on your desk and I never came back
Everybody's got a humble heart

I might like you better if we Yelped together (Phil D.), Tuesday, 25 August 2015 13:39 (eight years ago) link

feel like we need a better zoom to appreciate this fully - hope this works

https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/11037082_548474228683_8977839019100097861_n.jpg

doing my Objectives, handling some intense stuff (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 25 August 2015 13:40 (eight years ago) link

damn. time to reconsult the mind map.

doing my Objectives, handling some intense stuff (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 25 August 2015 13:40 (eight years ago) link

critical update on SOP from upthread: it was FINALLY sent out today, after about 8 or 9 months. sent out...for comment from the rest of the organization! can't wait to receive the comments and revise.

in related news, a few minutes ago i received an email from my supervisor letting me know that i'm the lead on drafting 2 new SOPs. the email also adds, helpfully, "don't worry, you're not going to be targeted as the SOP guy". good to know! *starts work on SOPs, is a guy*

1994 ball boy (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 25 August 2015 15:21 (eight years ago) link

dammit, I threw out my 90s 6-CD set of terrible clipart, but I could've used those 3.9 GBs of distorted line drawing WMFs and a sprinkling of random motivational words and business-speak to make an auto-mind-mapper, if only I'd known

a passing spacecadet, Tuesday, 25 August 2015 17:36 (eight years ago) link

Some of these get pretty esoteric.

http://mastermindmatrix.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/manifestation-process-mind-map-ipad.gif

jmm, Tuesday, 25 August 2015 17:47 (eight years ago) link

No Screen Beans no credibility.

carl agatha, Tuesday, 25 August 2015 18:15 (eight years ago) link

My office smells weird and I'm the only one in here.

carl agatha, Tuesday, 25 August 2015 21:27 (eight years ago) link

i mean if you smelt it, then...you know

1994 ball boy (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 25 August 2015 21:30 (eight years ago) link

It doesn't smell like farts. It just smells weird. Oh god I bet I smell weird. Why do I smell weird???

carl agatha, Tuesday, 25 August 2015 21:46 (eight years ago) link

If Ivy was younger you'd be checking yourself for previously unnoticed vomit patches, I bet

as verbose and purple as a Peter Ustinov made of plums (James Morrison), Wednesday, 26 August 2015 00:18 (eight years ago) link

can everyone stop announcing whether or not it's hot or cold in the office jfc SHUT UP

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 26 August 2015 01:39 (eight years ago) link

Stop saying retarded.

tokyo rosemary, Wednesday, 26 August 2015 15:08 (eight years ago) link

^^^^^

the person in the cube to the left of me says it all the time, and so does the person two cubes to the right

1994 ball boy (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 26 August 2015 15:10 (eight years ago) link

whoa yeah the dude to my left does that too and he's otherwise like, a really really standup dude. :(

Bouncy Castlevania (Will M.), Wednesday, 26 August 2015 15:24 (eight years ago) link

yep :(

List of people who are ready for woe and how we know this (seandalai), Wednesday, 26 August 2015 20:43 (eight years ago) link

twice today

List of people who are ready for woe and how we know this (seandalai), Wednesday, 26 August 2015 20:43 (eight years ago) link

My co-workers are mostly fine, but my office has completely run out of coffee (even decaf). How can this be allowed to happen? Our office manager is on maternity leave but we have 2 people covering for her, and I guess they aren't up to the job.

Just noise and screaming and no musical value at all. (Colonel Poo), Wednesday, 2 September 2015 13:08 (eight years ago) link

You could just pop out to the shop maybe?

Eyeball Kicks, Wednesday, 2 September 2015 13:13 (eight years ago) link

I'm not entirely sure why they aren't doing that.

Yeah, I could do that too, but then I'd have to pay for it.

Just noise and screaming and no musical value at all. (Colonel Poo), Wednesday, 2 September 2015 13:16 (eight years ago) link

Steal it?

Simply Sensational (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 2 September 2015 13:18 (eight years ago) link

if you're complaining on the internet about your colleagues' failure to supply you with coffee it's possible you might be your office's own stupid, annoying co-worker

bizarro gazzara, Wednesday, 2 September 2015 17:26 (eight years ago) link

Haha otm

Eyeball Kicks, Wednesday, 2 September 2015 17:39 (eight years ago) link

The last place I worked that let the coffee run out was trying to cut office expenses and filed for bankruptcy a month later.

Gett Off, Eileen (WilliamC), Wednesday, 2 September 2015 17:45 (eight years ago) link

overheard someone placing an order for food at work: "on a bah-gay"

i guess she meant baguette

F♯ A♯ (∞), Wednesday, 2 September 2015 18:40 (eight years ago) link

raspberry baguette

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 2 September 2015 18:44 (eight years ago) link

little red corvay

F♯ A♯ (∞), Wednesday, 2 September 2015 18:49 (eight years ago) link

if you're complaining on the internet about your colleagues' failure to supply you with coffee it's possible you might be your office's own stupid, annoying co-worker

While I'm not disputing the last part, I figured it was better to complain on the internet than complain to the 2 people whose job it is to make sure there is coffee who I assume must be struggling in some way if they aren't capable of doing 1 person's job between them.

Just noise and screaming and no musical value at all. (Colonel Poo), Wednesday, 2 September 2015 19:28 (eight years ago) link

Of course it's possible that everyone in the office is complaining on the internet and nobody's told them we've run out. I dunno I was at home on Friday when it apparently ran out.

Just noise and screaming and no musical value at all. (Colonel Poo), Wednesday, 2 September 2015 19:29 (eight years ago) link

i mean, you could just ask them to get some more coffee in if that's part of their job. if it's possible that no-one's told them you've run out then quietly fuming instead of politely asking for help seems... counterproductive

bizarro gazzara, Wednesday, 2 September 2015 19:40 (eight years ago) link

or you could take wmc's advice and take the coffee shortage as a harbinger of impending doom and get a head-start on finding a new job, perhaps in a place where all kinds of coffee are lavished upon you throughout the working day

bizarro gazzara, Wednesday, 2 September 2015 19:45 (eight years ago) link

This thread is not for helpful advice! Stop it.

Just noise and screaming and no musical value at all. (Colonel Poo), Wednesday, 2 September 2015 19:50 (eight years ago) link

i've been off work for almost 3 weeks - before that i spent several weeks highly stressed, getting everything ready for the people doing my job.

i get back today, and everything is just a big fucking mess, and no one seems to know anything about anything. my boss does this to me all the time, just leaves me to clean up everyone else's fuckups.

just1n3, Wednesday, 2 September 2015 20:11 (eight years ago) link

Did someone tell you yet that we're out of coffee?

pplains, Wednesday, 2 September 2015 20:50 (eight years ago) link

I changed roles recently but the team in Syd who are taking over my work are fecking hopeless. Its the same work they already do! They just have to use a different ordering system for the orders I did. And they cant apply brain to the task. If it deviates from the expected norm, it apparently involves flinging hands in the air and going "help its all too hard". Despite my carefully screen-shotted step by step documents, training sessions over TeamViewer, and helping them constantly on the phone.

Lord help us if I'd left the company all together.

Also, someone today used my (really distinctive and obviously not one of the generic office ones) bowl, filled it with oats and milk, half-assed microwaved it unknown minutes/hours ago, and just left it sitting in a gross lump in the microwave :|

I checked Snoops , and it is for real (Trayce), Thursday, 3 September 2015 00:12 (eight years ago) link

Soon my firm will be getting a new copier/printer/scanner and I know that this time, no one besides me will learn to use it.

Today, as I do the first week of every. single. month., I taught my boss that "Control-A" is how you select all files in a folder. (He "couldn't" figure out the billing program, so he puts each day's billables on a separate Excel sheet and has a secretary enter them each month.)

Je55e, Thursday, 3 September 2015 02:11 (eight years ago) link

(Ctrl-A was to select all Excel files to attach to email to secretary.)

Je55e, Thursday, 3 September 2015 02:12 (eight years ago) link

Happiness Is . . . a four-day weekend starting tomorrow and your boss scheduling a department-wide conference call for 3-4pm.

I might like you better if we Yelped together (Phil D.), Thursday, 3 September 2015 17:59 (eight years ago) link

my higher-up loves to pull that shit on us every time we have a department-wide meeting.

we keep telling him to move it but he insists on it

F♯ A♯ (∞), Thursday, 3 September 2015 18:15 (eight years ago) link

"basicallly it's friday and our thoughts are on our weekend plans, not our milestones or growth projection"

F♯ A♯ (∞), Thursday, 3 September 2015 18:17 (eight years ago) link

there's a PM here who's infamous for scheduling meetings with shitloads of non-needed people over friday lunch. "that's the only time all these people are free!" yeah there's a reason for that, dipshit

goole, Thursday, 3 September 2015 19:40 (eight years ago) link

There are only two of us in and I have a lot to do today plus the constant fear that something urgent will come in that the other 80% of the team who are away today normally do and I won't have a clue and will have to spend hours panicking through scraps of documentation

so I didn't really want to listen to a monologue about... whatever this monologue is about. how bad and evil someone is for trying to send us some perfectly run-of-the-mill non-outrageous work, right now, I think.

a passing spacecadet, Friday, 4 September 2015 08:51 (eight years ago) link

I know everyone's being dying to know what happened about the missing coffee - well it turns out it was stolen! How exciting. Well, the backup instant coffee was anyway.

Office managers were well aware there was no coffee, but evidently didn't see it as a very important issue (why I don't know) so they only bought some replacement instant coffee today, and the machine coffee we will have to wait for, because apparently people were very thirsty this month and drank it all and that's all we're getting.

I don't know if investigations are ongoing into who stole the instant coffee. My guess is when the other coffee ran out one of the other teams hid it somewhere so they would still have coffee while the rest of us complained about headaches/switched to tea.

Just noise and screaming and no musical value at all. (Colonel Poo), Friday, 4 September 2015 13:24 (eight years ago) link

I'm taking Poo's side here. As someone who's grossly underpaid for working a stressful shitty job, I feel pretty entitled to the free battery-acid coffee they provide and get miffed when they weren't clever enough to order more before it ran out

Y Kant Max Read (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 10 September 2015 12:02 (eight years ago) link

there is no free anything where i am, i guess cos of it being public sector.

i am leaving my current job to go to another department in a few weeks - even in a job i like that sense of dgaf that descends when you're leaving is so enjoyable.

doing my Objectives, handling some intense stuff (LocalGarda), Thursday, 10 September 2015 12:10 (eight years ago) link

It appears lessons have been learned from the coffee debacle, and 6 industrial size vats of Gold Blend turned up yesterday. Still no nice coffee, but I guess they are sticking to the monthly allowance for that.

One theory being discussed in the kitchen this morning was that the new team of people who arrived in the office a couple of weeks ago (company bought out another smaller company, although our company is itself quite small, I think including this new team there's about 80 people) are rampant caffeine addicts.

Just noise and screaming and no musical value at all. (Colonel Poo), Thursday, 10 September 2015 12:19 (eight years ago) link

i love the only semi-humorous vilification of the other that goes on with teams separate from your own in an office

doing my Objectives, handling some intense stuff (LocalGarda), Thursday, 10 September 2015 12:23 (eight years ago) link

i'm in the public sector too - we do get free coffee but i choose to buy and aeropress my own in the office because i'm an insufferable prick xxp

bizarro gazzara, Thursday, 10 September 2015 12:56 (eight years ago) link

haha - i don't have any caffeine, and i only drink tea at home, more of a water guy in the day, but apparently in my office nothing whatsoever is provided, no milk, no tea, nothing apart from water.

doing my Objectives, handling some intense stuff (LocalGarda), Thursday, 10 September 2015 12:58 (eight years ago) link

In our office, there is a terrible, gag-inducing coffee machine on a different floor, as well as a hot chocolate machine. I myself go for the slightly less incompetent coffee available in our cafeteria for a dollar and change.

There is a "water club" among my office-mates, where a group of people have chipped in to secure a bubbler and water delivery. I was a member for many years, but costs varied a bunch as people joined and left the club. At peak usage, it only cost something like $7/person for a three month supply, but last I checked it was closer to $30. I just go for tap water these days, which is supposedly filtered, but who knows how often they change it.

how's life, Thursday, 10 September 2015 13:18 (eight years ago) link

When I worked for the state they didn't provide anything, either. There wasn't even a kitchen area so people had to wash their dishes in the bathroom sinks. We had a similar water club that I joined after catching someone washing his pants in the water fountain by the bathrooms.

carl agatha, Thursday, 10 September 2015 13:46 (eight years ago) link

I'm public sector and we get milk, but for DRINKS ONLY NO CEREAL!!! so I bring my own for cereal
We also have zip taps (hot and filtered cold water) which are brilliant

kinder, Thursday, 10 September 2015 14:09 (eight years ago) link

I'm just imagining the passive aggression that would occur after someone who was not part of water club, honestly or otherwise, started using the water cooler paid for by water club.

fields of salmon, Thursday, 10 September 2015 14:43 (eight years ago) link

The first rule of Water Club is that you do not talk about Water Club...

"Tell them I'm in a meeting purlease" (snoball), Thursday, 10 September 2015 14:49 (eight years ago) link

omg yes. We kept the water cooler in our suite of offices (each "office" consisted of an admin's office, a boss's office, and a cubicle area where they stuck us attorneys) but people would sometimes come to "borrow" water (I do not want it back when you're done, thanks). The other attorney who I shared the cube space with was a bulldog about it, so I would just let her handle it, especially because I didn't really care that much. But she would jump up from her desk and demand fifty cents from people who wanted water.

carl agatha, Thursday, 10 September 2015 14:51 (eight years ago) link

For a while, our water orders were not matching our consumption. We'd run out of water a few weeks before our next delivery was scheduled. People voiced their suspicions that non-water club members (most likely security guards) were availing themselves of the cooler after hours. No one has actually did anything about it though.

how's life, Thursday, 10 September 2015 14:55 (eight years ago) link

My current job in the legal private sector has a kitchenette with microwave, fridge, sink, ice maker, paper plates, plastic forks, napkins and paper towels, and free Starbucks coffee, Tazo tea, Flavia coffee maker thing, filtered water, hot chocolate packets, half and half, non-dairy creamer, sugar, honey, lemon packets, salt, and pepper.

It's glorious.

carl agatha, Thursday, 10 September 2015 15:00 (eight years ago) link

We have a fridge, microwave, and one of those bottle-less watercoolers that's permanently plumbed into the mains water supply and also dispenses water hot enough for tea/coffee.

"Tell them I'm in a meeting purlease" (snoball), Thursday, 10 September 2015 15:03 (eight years ago) link

snoball do we work in the same office

bizarro gazzara, Thursday, 10 September 2015 15:28 (eight years ago) link

We don't get free coffee and I don't see an insufferable prick aeropressing their own. So I guess not. Although you could be in the other office.

"Tell them I'm in a meeting purlease" (snoball), Thursday, 10 September 2015 15:30 (eight years ago) link

(in which case please tell the guy there with the chronic BO problem to wash and use a deodorant)

"Tell them I'm in a meeting purlease" (snoball), Thursday, 10 September 2015 15:33 (eight years ago) link

"hey can you combine these three elements of this graphic into one line?"

*combine 3 elements into one line* "how's this look"

"great but can you separate those 3 elements so theye're not all on one line like that"

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 10 September 2015 15:55 (eight years ago) link

the woooooooorst

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 10 September 2015 15:57 (eight years ago) link

fuckin dyin over heah

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 10 September 2015 16:10 (eight years ago) link

"can you print these"

prints these

"oh can you add my contact info to them"

murders u

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 10 September 2015 16:39 (eight years ago) link

nothing to bitch about.

it is kind of funny that the higher ups request for peace and quiet so people can get work done, yet spend most of the day speaking very loudly to each other.

and headphones on!

F♯ A♯ (∞), Thursday, 10 September 2015 18:14 (eight years ago) link

Speaking of water and coffee and whatnot we're about to get a tap that not only supplies chilled and boiling filtered water, but a third tap produces CARBONATED WATER.

What a time to be alive. (we also get free tea/coffee/biscuits/fruit, beer on fridays and they have energy drinks in the vending machine).

I checked Snoops , and it is for real (Trayce), Friday, 11 September 2015 01:19 (eight years ago) link

the nightmare project I left in February is still apparently in such bad shape that it's almost on the CEO's desk.

I got copied on an email about one particular assignment, asking me if I could add some background on the development of that particular task. I tried very politely to point out that not only did I have nothing to do with it, but that the person who did was actually...him. Which he apparently forgot.

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Friday, 11 September 2015 02:32 (eight years ago) link

no really, tell us more about the cartoonist who took the far side mentality and added a christian point of view

jello my future biafriend (roxymuzak), Wednesday, 16 September 2015 18:28 (eight years ago) link

shout out to all the 50+yo str8 white dudes who smugly and loudly backpat each other abt their uninformed conservative politix in the break room during lunch

Y Kant Max Read (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 16 September 2015 19:05 (eight years ago) link

My new colleague was explaining how the media coverage of the PEGIDA rally he attended was unfair because it only showed people waving German flags and cut out all the guys waving Swedish and Danish ones in order to make them look like bigoted nationalists. Seems like a really nice guy otherwise but...uh.

I wear my Redditor loathing with pride (ShariVari), Wednesday, 16 September 2015 19:26 (eight years ago) link

PEGIDA?

AKA Thermo Thinwall (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 16 September 2015 19:38 (eight years ago) link

Patriotic Europeans Against the Islamisation of the Occident - German far-right anti-Muslim group.

I wear my Redditor loathing with pride (ShariVari), Wednesday, 16 September 2015 19:41 (eight years ago) link

whaaoaoooohhh

AKA Thermo Thinwall (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 16 September 2015 19:45 (eight years ago) link

He went out of curiosity apparently but still...

I wear my Redditor loathing with pride (ShariVari), Wednesday, 16 September 2015 19:47 (eight years ago) link

lol. right.

AKA Thermo Thinwall (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 16 September 2015 19:47 (eight years ago) link

no really, tell us more about the cartoonist who took the far side mentality and added a christian point of view

I'm somewhat interested? Although not for puritanical reasons.

pplains, Wednesday, 16 September 2015 20:01 (eight years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/Pq1wMND.jpg

1996 ball boy (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 16 September 2015 20:08 (eight years ago) link

Funny how in football you can take a knee in the final seconds or throw a Hail Mary, but not both at the same time.

pplains, Wednesday, 16 September 2015 20:12 (eight years ago) link

everyone please talk about the airconditioning & how cold/hot it is in the office every 10 minutes

i swear to christ it makes me raaaaage

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 16 September 2015 23:46 (eight years ago) link

Lol I can take it if it's just awkward small talk but once it becomes excessive bitching it's like PUT A JACKET ON, STRIP NAKED, OR STFU.

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Wednesday, 16 September 2015 23:48 (eight years ago) link

exactly.

I'm not kidding, everyone that sits near me is like "Man it's cold" "Wow it is really cold" "Are you cold?" aaaaalll fuckin day like they just started work here yesterday

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 17 September 2015 01:12 (eight years ago) link

i guess it could be worse, but i'm changing jobs in a few weeks, i finish here friday 25th - and i have fucking nothing to do. i just went for a two-hour walk at lunch. it's actually alienating me from my colleagues cos i'm so bored.

doing my Objectives, handling some intense stuff (LocalGarda), Thursday, 17 September 2015 12:34 (eight years ago) link

i love it when they do some like positive/negative judo to complain abt it. like you're outside and they're like "its so nice out." and you're like well this is pleasant "yeah super nice!" and then they are all "not like inside where it's too cold"

Bouncy Castlevania (Will M.), Thursday, 17 September 2015 16:06 (eight years ago) link

since this one guy does fuck all, he feels the need to share the stupidest things he finds on the web with whoever wants to listen; memes, minor car accidents, daily mail news, 'funny' videos, stupid (facebook) comments. the web is an undiscovered goldmine for him and he wants to share these little nuggets with us every hour

i've never met someone who needed such levels of overstimulation.

and when he's not doing that, he's nodding off

F♯ A♯ (∞), Thursday, 17 September 2015 16:52 (eight years ago) link

the woman who sits across from me is like a helpless stupid robot of endless complaining

there is no information that can be dispensed to her, no conversation to be had, no meeting that she's part of that won't lead to her telling you a long story of how it's an inconvience to her or her customers in some way, and may include irritating combos if sighing, passive agressive laughter and drumming her nails on the table.

if she has a problem and asks for help and you help her, she will not thank you but bring up 3 more problems that you cant help her with because she's so special at being useless

she is the worst, most inept & ungrateful human being i have ever met and i think i genuinely despise her

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 17 September 2015 19:50 (eight years ago) link

oi those people are so destructive wherever they go - make productive people less productive by whittling them down with their whinging

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Thursday, 17 September 2015 21:51 (eight years ago) link

speaking of

mookieproof, Thursday, 17 September 2015 21:56 (eight years ago) link

i was on my lunchbreak it doesnt count

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 17 September 2015 22:35 (eight years ago) link

VG, i just about died laughing at that comment of your work friend about your office being like an icebox ^_^

you can't escape it! even on fb!!

just1n3, Sunday, 20 September 2015 17:38 (eight years ago) link

lol i know right? LEAVE ME ALONE YOU INSANE JUNIOR WEATHER REPORTERS

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 20 September 2015 21:05 (eight years ago) link

You know when there are some targets in place, but they're kind of vestigial, kind of just there, aren't something you'd need to concern yourself with, but you have the one manager in the building who cares, and they really, really, really care

cardamon, Monday, 21 September 2015 22:05 (eight years ago) link

yeah I fuckin know alright, that's me

deejerk reactions (darraghmac), Monday, 21 September 2015 22:09 (eight years ago) link

lol. targets are the blanket that covers the gaping hole of meaninglessness.

doing my Objectives, handling some intense stuff (LocalGarda), Monday, 21 September 2015 22:13 (eight years ago) link

that one dude answerable for the random meaningless target

deejerk reactions (darraghmac), Monday, 21 September 2015 22:15 (eight years ago) link

Would it be reading too much into it to think that it's a total dick move for a coworker to spell my name in lowercase in a short message to my supervisor where I've been copied in, and several other pronouns have been capitalised correctly, and I've only been copied in because he's asking my supervisor to approve changes to a document, and wants me to make those changes? This guy is an ignorant, weird noise making, lazy talking, sexist, conservative, racist, angry swearing, lame joke making, forced laughing, whinging manbaby so I'm thinking dick move.

I mean is disrespectful pass-agg lowercase naming a thing or am I just paranoid?

facon wrapped seitan butty (qiqing), Tuesday, 22 September 2015 06:12 (eight years ago) link

For my own sanity, I generally assume these things are honest mistakes.

Also assuming your boss is reasonably intelligent they noticed and know it was at the least careless and at the worst a total dick move that reflects poorly on the sender, by you, either way.

carl agatha, Tuesday, 22 September 2015 12:08 (eight years ago) link

I'm reading too much into yr post tbph

deejerk reactions (darraghmac), Tuesday, 22 September 2015 12:52 (eight years ago) link

was working with an IT guy on a project that was meant to be completed yesterday. 3/4 of the way through the left for the day without any warning leaving me unable to proceed. he did similarly last week when be sent an email suggesting that something i had delivered required additional attention (turned out not to be the case which he later stated) then immediately left for the weekend without notice again abandoning a task halfway to completion.

i don't know whether to be pissed or to admire his advanced indifference

all my friends are vampires (art), Tuesday, 22 September 2015 12:53 (eight years ago) link

the main guy i work with does the exact same thing. it's friday at 11am. he emails me something, and within 30 seconds i email him back with an extremely simple question (like what is so-and-so's contact info or whatevever). monday afternoon, he emails me back with the answer.

1996 ball boy (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 22 September 2015 12:57 (eight years ago) link

Working with a small team to get an inquiry form places on relevant website pages to separate their inquiries from sales lead-generation stuff.

ME: OK, here's the form draft on the test tier, please test and make sure it's OK.
PERSON 1: I don't see the notifications in the test mailbox.
ME: They aren't going there, they should be in [team mailbox].
PERSON 1: Oh, OK. Meanwhile, why does the form on this page [on test tier] look different from these three [on live tier].
IT PERSON: Those last three are live. Only your first link shows what the news pages will look like. The new form will not have the dropdown that that form does.
PERSON 1: Oh, OK, I see.
PERSON 1'S SUPERVISOR: Hey can we change the dropdown on these three [live] pages to say X,Y and Z instead of what's there?
ME: JESUS CHRIST I'M GOING TO MURDER YOU ALL

I might like you better if we Yelped together (Phil D.), Tuesday, 22 September 2015 13:01 (eight years ago) link

wrote a blog post about editorial judgement when working at pace - the main thrust was "after the style guide and user research, have a reason for why you did something which you could explain if someone questioned it". colleague who is now "blog editor" probably because he can't actually do the non-blog work we are paid to do, mails it back with loads of suggested edits and added in text, like the worst type of editing possible from a person who's never edited anything in their life, changed words for no reason etc.

so glad i am leaving this department, i accept that people have diff skills but the last few months in my current role has just been this awful streamlining of everyone's tasks that completely ignores strengths and weaknesses. i mean it goes as far as being unable to get more work in a week's "sprint" because the system is set-up for people to plod through the average amount or less. prob the most affable boss i've ever had but ultimately a frustrating environment as a result.

doing my Objectives, handling some intense stuff (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 22 September 2015 13:28 (eight years ago) link

you're leaving in 2.5 weeks. now is not the time to start rewriting code that i will have to support when you're gone.

especially don't 'optimise' the code that i told you was delicate and not specced anywhere (the designers and original coders have all left) in a way that breaks the acceptance tests and wastes an afternoon.

just leave it. spend that last couple of weeks documenting your stuff.

koogs, Tuesday, 22 September 2015 16:36 (eight years ago) link

pretty sure my constantly-whispering-to-self coworker is maybe a month away from writing a manifesto

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 22 September 2015 18:19 (eight years ago) link

what does she whisper?

1996 ball boy (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 22 September 2015 18:24 (eight years ago) link

it's a he and he whispers quiet rants to customers as he's typing friendly emails to them, or quietly ranting to his wife after he gets off a phone call with her

he is nice to me but all i picture is what he says to himself about me when i leave

dude is majorly unbalanced & perma-angry. even a friendly greeting is loud & intense

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 22 September 2015 18:29 (eight years ago) link

"is it really possible that we don't as yet have a thread about DAVID LYNCH'S DUNE?"

Heel of Fortune (WilliamC), Tuesday, 22 September 2015 18:29 (eight years ago) link

, he said, in an angry whisper

1996 ball boy (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 22 September 2015 18:30 (eight years ago) link

and can i just

this guy badmouths his wife to anyone who will listen (me not included, i have made it clear that he can keep that shit to himself). i have never met her but i feel a weird protective kinship because FUCK this guy for real

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 22 September 2015 18:41 (eight years ago) link

yeah, the guy i sit next to starts every other story with "if you ever get married, here's what's gonna happen..."

"what's gonna happen" is inevitably a series of terrible things

1996 ball boy (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 22 September 2015 19:17 (eight years ago) link

he had a long rant yesterday about the *way* she asks him for help

._.

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 22 September 2015 19:20 (eight years ago) link

That sort of reminds me of the security guard we had who would complain about his child support payments ALL THE TIME. I am not feeling any sympathy for you, dude.

tokyo rosemary, Tuesday, 22 September 2015 23:53 (eight years ago) link

LOL I knew what PhilDs simpsons gif was gonna be before i clicked on it :D

I checked Snoops , and it is for real (Trayce), Wednesday, 23 September 2015 01:08 (eight years ago) link

i hope i never get as dug in inside my own head-bunker as this guy, like he is literally coming to work in a mental foxhole

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 23 September 2015 01:11 (eight years ago) link

Someone I have to run a draft of a PRINTED MAGAZINE, ON PAPER, which they know it is, as they have been doing this for years, sent back the "correction" that the hyperlinks weren't clickable

I don't even I mean how do I begin to what the fuck is this?

as verbose and purple as a Peter Ustinov made of plums (James Morrison), Wednesday, 23 September 2015 02:19 (eight years ago) link

Maybe they're like Salieri in Amadeus, they can just pick up a sheet and see the links get clicked in their head.

pplains, Wednesday, 23 September 2015 02:43 (eight years ago) link

had no MEETINGS in my life two years ago.

since the 'joint venture,' meetings WHICH HAVE NOTHING FOR ME up the ass.

skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 23 September 2015 02:46 (eight years ago) link

tbf, any meeting that DID have something for me up the ass is still not one I'd be wanting to attend

as verbose and purple as a Peter Ustinov made of plums (James Morrison), Wednesday, 23 September 2015 03:01 (eight years ago) link

On a similar kick to VGs muttering workmate, the guy opposite me (who is actually a v close friend outside of work - I got him the job here) has these weird tics I've never noticed in my 15 years of knowing the guy.

He constantly makes water-drop "poik!" noises with his mouth, and blows raspberries, and sighs and sniffs... and today, he has taken to *growling like an angry dog". I'm... more than a little perturbed.

I checked Snoops , and it is for real (Trayce), Wednesday, 23 September 2015 03:29 (eight years ago) link

like not "grrrr" like you'd do expressing distaste, actually making doglike grrrwwlllll sounds. WTF dude.

I checked Snoops , and it is for real (Trayce), Wednesday, 23 September 2015 03:30 (eight years ago) link

Said workmate has just put a customer on hold mid-support-call to answer his personal mobile and have achat to his wife about dog surgery. WTF.

I checked Snoops , and it is for real (Trayce), Wednesday, 23 September 2015 06:18 (eight years ago) link

maybe he's having the growls surgically removed from himself and inserted back into his dog?

as verbose and purple as a Peter Ustinov made of plums (James Morrison), Wednesday, 23 September 2015 06:28 (eight years ago) link

lol

I checked Snoops , and it is for real (Trayce), Wednesday, 23 September 2015 06:29 (eight years ago) link

Two people in this office are on a conference call which the rest of us aren't on, so the rest of us are listening to approx 40% of a conversation, in stereo, at extra speaking-down-microphone-obliviously-while-wearing-headphones volume

a passing spacecadet, Wednesday, 23 September 2015 09:11 (eight years ago) link

xps oh lordy @ Trayce's coworker (yes, I have outed myself as posting to a thread without reading it)

a passing spacecadet, Wednesday, 23 September 2015 09:12 (eight years ago) link

Trayce's co-worker:

http://i.imgur.com/I2oXi1G.jpg

pplains, Wednesday, 23 September 2015 13:42 (eight years ago) link

Conversations with my co-worker require so much set-up that I feel like I have to establish that we are employees in a law firm, working on litigation.

One simple question -- Should I make Document X part of Exhibit 8? -- took over 10 fucking minutes to slog through.

Je55e, Wednesday, 23 September 2015 14:56 (eight years ago) link

I established early on that we were talking about Exhibit 8. I had Exhibit 8 displayed on my monitor. After SO MUCH TALKING I said, again, "What I'm asking is, should Document X be part of the exhibit?"

He said, "What exhibit?"

Je55e, Wednesday, 23 September 2015 14:59 (eight years ago) link

was just in the bathroom, empty except for me. dude comes in, walks past the two unused urinals, proceeds to piss in a stall, door open, with the seat down. thanks, dirtbag

goole, Wednesday, 23 September 2015 15:01 (eight years ago) link

"Exhibit 8 - the one we have been talking about. Should this document be part of that exhibit?"

"Uh, well -- I don't understand what you're asking."

I swear to God I'm not exaggerating or making this up.

xp sorry I might stop posting soon

Je55e, Wednesday, 23 September 2015 15:01 (eight years ago) link

"hey, there's an opportunity to make a men's restroom even nastier. i should act on that."

1996 ball boy (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 23 September 2015 15:01 (eight years ago) link

je55e i'm going to make an executive call and just advise that document X should be part of Exhibit 8. if someone complains just say that earlier this morning you heard notice of an executive call saying that it was ok.

1996 ball boy (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 23 September 2015 15:02 (eight years ago) link

I feel like I have to establish that we are employees in a law firm, working on litigation.

I recognize this surreal feeling. I'm at school, but our lab has no lab manager and lots of undergrads helping out, so the grad students do a lot of admin and managing people's work. The worst offender is a fellow grad student who has been in a lab an entire year. Next time she says 'I'm confused right now' I might start with 'We are grad students, running a lab'.

ljubljana, Wednesday, 23 September 2015 15:04 (eight years ago) link

Backing Karl here, good call imo

ljubljana, Wednesday, 23 September 2015 15:06 (eight years ago) link

the state of toilets in offices really is a damning indictment of human behaviour

doing my Objectives, handling some intense stuff (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 23 September 2015 15:06 (eight years ago) link

I honestly thought he was fucking with me when he said "Which exhibit?" I thought he was joking. It was hard not to get exasperated and whiny.

Karl, when things got really fucking stupid I said, You know, I think it makes more sense to just make it a separate exhibit, but I still had to finish explaining what we had been talking about THE WHOLE TIME.

Je55e, Wednesday, 23 September 2015 15:06 (eight years ago) link

FUCK what a way to start the day. Looking forward to the actually complicated discussion we have to have soon.

Thanks, thread, for letting me blow off steam.

Je55e, Wednesday, 23 September 2015 15:07 (eight years ago) link

who the fuck stands up and pisses into a toilet that has the seat down? for fuck's sake, you can kick it upright with your foot if you really have to.

μpright mammal (mh), Wednesday, 23 September 2015 15:16 (eight years ago) link

we have a thread where all u inaccurate pissing worriers are wrong on this already

deejerk reactions (darraghmac), Wednesday, 23 September 2015 15:17 (eight years ago) link

then again, I did that once and it failed to stay up, I leaned down quickly to catch it with my hand so there wouldn't be a huge CLUNK noise, and the seat somehow hit me in the dick

I am the world's most coordinated man, though

μpright mammal (mh), Wednesday, 23 September 2015 15:17 (eight years ago) link

naccurate pissing worriers

NO ONE CAN DEFY THE LAWS OF PHYSICS
(except for j.c., RIP)
there's gonna be splashback unless your piss has superpowers

1997 ball boy (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 23 September 2015 15:25 (eight years ago) link

I leaned down quickly to catch it with my hand so there wouldn't be a huge CLUNK noise, and the seat somehow hit me in the dick

braggin'

pplains, Wednesday, 23 September 2015 15:43 (eight years ago) link

:/

μpright mammal (mh), Wednesday, 23 September 2015 15:48 (eight years ago) link

fucking lol'ing at my desk at that story.

personally, i don't care if the seat hitting the toilet makes a sonic boom so loud it will blow out all the windows in a three-block radius and permanently deafen several innocent bystanders; i am *not* touching the underside of a work toilet seat.

AKA Thermo Thinwall (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 23 September 2015 16:12 (eight years ago) link

i had a pang of sympathy when i thought maybe he was preventing the world from seeing something weird about his junk.

but nobody was at the urinals. and why did he leave the stall door open.

https://cdn2.scratch.mit.edu/get_image/project/16112046_144x108.png?v=1398475700.0

goole, Wednesday, 23 September 2015 16:43 (eight years ago) link

On a similar kick to VGs muttering workmate, the guy opposite me (who is actually a v close friend outside of work - I got him the job here) has these weird tics I've never noticed in my 15 years of knowing the guy.

He constantly makes water-drop "poik!" noises with his mouth, and blows raspberries, and sighs and sniffs... and today, he has taken to *growling like an angry dog". I'm... more than a little perturbed.

― I checked Snoops , and it is for real (Trayce), Wednesday, September 23, 2015 4:29 AM (14 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

haha.

the guy i mentioned above that talks about everything he finds on the intarwebz does a lot of these things. he made a joke about me once and we're not even on friendly terms, so i was taken aback by it. anyway, i couldn't resist and i said, "okay, tourrette's" and it stuck for a long time. a few laughed and i felt bad. i actually don't talk to him anymore even though the "creative team" works in my area, so i still see him.

anyway, this dude must be really young and have a really tough personal life, because out of nowhere in the lunchroom he starts telling me that his brother is in prison and he doesn't know what to do. then he continues to tell me all sorts of personal things about him and his family.

so yeah, this guy does loud, short moans at his desk, says "HA!", talks to himself, picks his nose, pretends he cracks his neck (by moving his head sideways and making a cracking noise with his mouth), and is always taking some type of "brain power vitamin."

there's always a nutter

F♯ A♯ (∞), Wednesday, 23 September 2015 17:59 (eight years ago) link

7AM and some complete wank has chosen to microwave what I assume is fish but what smells like hot cat food in the kitchenette that's thirty feet away from my desk. It socked me in the nose when I went for coffee and now I'm noticing the stench radiating slowly out into the office proper. Nauseating. How do people not know that shit like that isn't okay?

Sitting In The Ape Chair (Old Lunch), Thursday, 24 September 2015 12:12 (eight years ago) link

because they are stupid and annoying

bizarro gazzara, Thursday, 24 September 2015 12:29 (eight years ago) link

Oh yeah.

Sitting In The Ape Chair (Old Lunch), Thursday, 24 September 2015 12:35 (eight years ago) link

Certain people have 'stopped smoking'. What this means is that they've stopped smoking their cigarettes, and are now smoking mine. This hasn't yet reached the level of annoyance that merits posting it to this thread, but at some point it will, so I'm posting pre-emptively. For now I am caring and sharing.

cardamon, Thursday, 24 September 2015 22:17 (eight years ago) link

Boss puts her gum in the office's garbage disposal. B/c she's "an old hippie" and she doesn't want it going to a landfill.

She once put a whole box of barley in the disposal for the same reason, which completely stopped up the drain pipe.

Je55e, Friday, 25 September 2015 15:10 (eight years ago) link

she has an intriguing idea of how the sewer system works

μpright mammal (mh), Friday, 25 September 2015 15:12 (eight years ago) link

smdh

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 25 September 2015 16:08 (eight years ago) link

she has an intriguing idea of how the sewer system works

― μpright mammal (mh), Friday, September 25, 2015 3:12 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Her concept of public utilities in general is a topic of great fascination to me, cf the time she could not fathom why her home internet would be out when the electricity to her home was still on.

carl agatha, Friday, 25 September 2015 16:25 (eight years ago) link

Sounds like the annual confusion I sometimes hear of why the gas heat doesn't work when the electricity goes out.

pplains, Friday, 25 September 2015 16:51 (eight years ago) link

I heard an interview with a Chicago sewer and water* guy who said that it was slightly greener to put biodegradables down the drain than in the trash, esp b/c they're starting to re-use sludge as fertilizer. But I don't believe she gave it that much thought.

*"Metropolitan Water Reclamation"!

Je55e, Saturday, 26 September 2015 00:59 (eight years ago) link

She also puts teabags in the disposal. Why not use it to shred documents?

Je55e, Saturday, 26 September 2015 01:00 (eight years ago) link

i'm surprised she doesnt put her tampons in the disposal

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 26 September 2015 05:28 (eight years ago) link

I had to explain the difference between astrology and astronomy to my teaching assistant on at least 2 different occasions during the previous school term. Now I teach online.

beamish13, Saturday, 26 September 2015 05:39 (eight years ago) link

heavens!

goole, Saturday, 26 September 2015 16:13 (eight years ago) link

resident SACW earlier -

opens the fridge
rummages around
shouts
"L... L... L... L... FUCKIN LIMA!"

poster marked "WHITE PPL" (onimo), Thursday, 1 October 2015 15:38 (eight years ago) link

now I love this woman dearly but she has a reputation for being a bit of a slob, and there is this thing that she does where she microwaves food like hash browns or eggs or something but instead of using one of the plates that we have in the plate cabinet, she uses a paper towel (!)

Ina-Garten-Da-Vida (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 13 October 2015 19:49 (eight years ago) link

for like kinda moist things!

Ina-Garten-Da-Vida (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 13 October 2015 19:49 (eight years ago) link

and then puts the v apparently greasy/wet paper towel right on the counter

Ina-Garten-Da-Vida (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 13 October 2015 19:50 (eight years ago) link

bleuch

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 13 October 2015 20:37 (eight years ago) link

had to talk to my boss abt desk-whisperer bcz i'm kinda worried about his mental health. dunno if it will go anywhere but i feel better about being on record that his behaviour is unsettling

i like him but no-one should have to deal with his pent-up nonsense

mr veg said "if you hear a sound kind of like a staple gun just walk straight out of the building immediately" lol but also O_O and :/

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 13 October 2015 20:43 (eight years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/kfbteCz.gif

I checked Snoops , and it is for real (Trayce), Tuesday, 13 October 2015 23:42 (eight years ago) link

yep

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 14 October 2015 02:31 (eight years ago) link

Yeah not funny at all TBH :(

I checked Snoops , and it is for real (Trayce), Wednesday, 14 October 2015 03:34 (eight years ago) link

OMG I have just seen that someone who used to work for me is one of the four in the new 'Driving to Oz' Fosters campaign.

Erm... better not post why he stopped working for me in a public place.

suffeeciant attreebution (aldo), Friday, 16 October 2015 20:00 (eight years ago) link

just tell us in pig-latin. (also this thread may have been de-indexed?)

AKA Thermo Thinwall (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 16 October 2015 20:24 (eight years ago) link

I had him fracked for saud (and getting anyone fracked in the sivil cervice is nearly impossible, but facts are facts and is you sign your own clexpenses aims it's difficult to deny you did it deliberately). He went down the route of a clarassment haim and I was minorly old toff for not entirely following porrect crocedures but nothing to orry wover.

suffeeciant attreebution (aldo), Friday, 16 October 2015 23:50 (eight years ago) link

minorly old toff, going to nick that

I cannot share but I have some baffling stories of really blatant, how on earth did you think no-one would notice, saud (not in my current job I should add)

kinder, Saturday, 17 October 2015 07:56 (eight years ago) link

he claimed it wasn't him but the forms were covered in his saudi prints

deejerk reactions (darraghmac), Saturday, 17 October 2015 09:26 (eight years ago) link

i have always felt like our "test plans" in a QA environment are designed with the flawed assumption that everything will work, and no considerations are made for what to do if certain tests fail - not enough buffer time built in, or clear chain of command for how to fix the situation.

There've been multiple times where we reported unsuccessful tests of a component in QA, where instead of pulling back the migration and devoting the extra hours to rectifying it, they've just ignored it and migrated to production anyway. On one such occasion, this was done and then the application legitimately did not work in production, which cost us 10+ man hours (including weekend time) to fix - while I waited 8 hours for the opportunity to perform my 5-minute test.

This has happened again this week and boy will I be ticked if this thing now does not work, since we've been reporting the test failure in QA since 10/5.

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Sunday, 25 October 2015 10:43 (eight years ago) link

(note the problem with the application not working in Prod was less the man hours to fix, which would have been needed anyway, but the fact that we had a pretty displeased customer).

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Sunday, 25 October 2015 10:44 (eight years ago) link

dunno if any of the ilx civil service lol crew have seen this:

A CIA manual about how to sabotage productivity in offices, made for European spies during WW2.

“Insist on doing everything through channels. Never permit short-cuts to be taken to expedite decisions.”

“Make speeches. Talk as frequently as possible and at great length. Illustrate your ‘points’ by long anecdotes and accounts of personal experiences.”

“When possible, refer all matters to committees, for ‘further study and consideration.’ Attempt to make the committees as large as possible — never less than five.”

“Bring up irrelevant issues as frequently as possible.”

“Haggle over precise wordings of communications, minutes, and resolutions.”

“Refer back to a matter decided upon at the last meeting and attempt to re-open the question of the advisability of that decision.”

“Advocate ‘caution.’ Be ‘reasonable’ and urge your fellow conferees to be ‘reasonable’ and avoid haste which might result in embarrassments or difficulties later on.”

“Be worried about the propriety of any decision. Raise the question of whether it lies within the jurisdiction of the group or whether it might conflict with the policy of some higher echelon.”

I know these kind of articles prompt an easy slide into "lol that's my office alright!!" stuff - but the above honestly is like deeply held tenets of people I've worked with about how to actually do their job.

doing my Objectives, handling some intense stuff (LocalGarda), Monday, 26 October 2015 11:54 (eight years ago) link

Had you not posted the link, I would've swore that was some made-up list someone put together on Facebook. It's too perfect.

Because it's so darn true! So darn true.

pplains, Monday, 26 October 2015 13:34 (eight years ago) link

haha...damn, that cuts a little close to the bone,i'm guessing I must have some ex-CIA in my company then

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Monday, 26 October 2015 13:56 (eight years ago) link

because of the ass backwards way we do things, I got told the only time I could train this one group of temp folk was the weekend (when we're normally off). basically that's asking a bunch of temporary contractors, w/ wife/kids and all, to work forfeit their weekend and work a 60 hour week (time and a half sure, but hat's a big ask). Me, I didn't care cos I could just move my days off, but they don't have that luxury. also, the weekend is when almsot everybody is off, so when things break down, there's often nobody you can reach.

so how shocked am I that stuff broke that we couldn't fix during training and that several people left training early (ie not returning from break)? you mess with people's days off, that happens.

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Monday, 26 October 2015 14:07 (eight years ago) link

We might have the causality reversed. It seems likely that the CIA just spent some time in workplaces where nobody knew what the fuck they were doing and codified their asinine practices.

I Was Picking Up A Teaspoon When Something Happened To My Spine (Old Lunch), Monday, 26 October 2015 14:26 (eight years ago) link

How those practices subsequently became the norm within ostensibly functioning businesses, though, is beyond me.

I Was Picking Up A Teaspoon When Something Happened To My Spine (Old Lunch), Monday, 26 October 2015 14:28 (eight years ago) link

can you imagine how fun it'd be to be a spy in some euro office saying "hey i'd like to bring up last week's discussion on coffee cups" at every meeting, with everyone staring at you and wanting to die?

doing my Objectives, handling some intense stuff (LocalGarda), Monday, 26 October 2015 14:35 (eight years ago) link

god it burns

deejerk reactions (darraghmac), Monday, 26 October 2015 14:47 (eight years ago) link

How those practices subsequently became the norm within ostensibly functioning businesses, though, is beyond me.

your faith in the human race is touching

ledge, Monday, 26 October 2015 15:16 (eight years ago) link

I think if I had three wishes right now one of them would be to live in a kind of WW2 sitcom where I'm using all of the above tactics, knowing I'm doing so solely to destroy progress.

Imagine, like just imagine, how ANNOYING it would be to keep doing all this stuff.

"let's be reasonable here guys!" or "whoa there, let's be reasonable for a second", or "not sure we want to rush into anything here and get caught out later, how about we sit on this and be reasonable?"

doing my Objectives, handling some intense stuff (LocalGarda), Monday, 26 October 2015 15:26 (eight years ago) link

this one would be amazing too: “Be worried about the propriety of any decision. Raise the question of whether it lies within the jurisdiction of the group or whether it might conflict with the policy of some higher echelon.”

doing my Objectives, handling some intense stuff (LocalGarda), Monday, 26 October 2015 15:27 (eight years ago) link

"Now hold on just a second, Hitler. Shouldn't we exercise some caution here and make sure that steering committee is on board as well?"

1999 ball boy (Karl Malone), Monday, 26 October 2015 15:32 (eight years ago) link

"wait a second everyone - I mean, this may well lie within... the... jurisdiction of this group, however... doesn't anyone think it could conflict with the policy of... some... higher echelon?"

doing my Objectives, handling some intense stuff (LocalGarda), Monday, 26 October 2015 15:33 (eight years ago) link

The whole handbook is good fun. The extract we're talking about here is on p28

https://www.cia.gov/news-information/featured-story-archive/2012-featured-story-archive/CleanedUOSSSimpleSabotage_sm.pdf

Under "General Devices for Lowering Morale and Creating Confusion"

Give lengthy and incomprehensible explanations when questioned
Act stupid

and so on

NotEnough, Monday, 26 October 2015 15:35 (eight years ago) link

I really feel like one of the people I worked with last year used these guidelines. some of the things she did:

*She wanted a cap on how many people were invited to a meeting. While generally good to limit the number to just key players, she used the same cap regardless of who was needed. for any key players we had to leave off due to her stupid *cap*, we then were asked to schedule a separate meeting to talk about what we discussed in the first meeting. if they posed a question that didn't get asked in the first meeting that we couldn't answer, now we're scheduling a third meeting.

*any time a decision was made by us, she would question it and pose all these doomsday scenarios - "what could go wrong" and kind of require us to prove that the innocuous decision we made to have breakfast at 8:00 am wasn't going to cause everybody to get cancer.

*any time something did go wrong, she'd cut into our time to fix it by demanding a full committee meeting including her boss to discuss what went wrong, why, and who was at fault, and then requiring us to state over and over again how it would be fixed...y'know instead of saving this shit for AFTER WE HAD A CHANCE TO FIX IT FIRST.

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Monday, 26 October 2015 15:38 (eight years ago) link

"What if we formed a new task force for every single word in the introductory paragraph? These Word Task Forces (WTFs) would spend a minimum of 4 weeks to determine whether or not their assigned word is optimal. After the WTFs determine that their words are optimal, Sentence Task Forces (STFs) would be asked to spend a minimum of 8 weeks to consolidate the work of the WTFs and construct a full sentence. The work of the STFs would then lead to the important work of the Paragraph Task Force (PTF), and then...I'm sure you follow the logic by now, Hitler. I advise that we allow ourselves some time to marinade on this idea and resume the discussion in 8 weeks."

1999 ball boy (Karl Malone), Monday, 26 October 2015 15:41 (eight years ago) link

"(7) Spread disturbing rumors that sound like inside dope."

jmm, Monday, 26 October 2015 15:51 (eight years ago) link

Being an office saboteur would be so much fun. I would start by targeting the staplers.

jmm, Monday, 26 October 2015 15:59 (eight years ago) link

take all the mice out of computers in the building. hear the thunder of people angrily banging on their desk

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Monday, 26 October 2015 16:08 (eight years ago) link

hack into the vending machines and take out the first three items in every slot so that someone would have to pay $3 before getting their product, rendering it useless.

put out of order signs on copiers/printers on every floor, and the one that does work put a "low toner" sign on it.

ok this is giving me a boner I'll stop

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Monday, 26 October 2015 16:10 (eight years ago) link

pour honey on the bottom of all mice

doing my Objectives, handling some intense stuff (LocalGarda), Monday, 26 October 2015 16:19 (eight years ago) link

that would basically end production

doing my Objectives, handling some intense stuff (LocalGarda), Monday, 26 October 2015 16:20 (eight years ago) link

never use the "reply all" button at any point

doing my Objectives, handling some intense stuff (LocalGarda), Monday, 26 October 2015 16:20 (eight years ago) link

actually there have been two occasions where the entire server of my company was taken down by someone sending an email to everybody in the firm by mistake and everybody "replying all" to tell people to stop "replying all" for three hours.

I imagined each time someone was observing this from afar and stroking his beard with glee.

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Monday, 26 October 2015 16:22 (eight years ago) link

At my last job, when people walked away from their computers without locking them, other people would occasionally 1) take a screenshot, 2) hide the desktop icons, and 3) set up the screenshot as the background image. I was never a perpetrator, but I'd be lying if I said I didn't take some joy in watching the aftermath.

I Was Picking Up A Teaspoon When Something Happened To My Spine (Old Lunch), Monday, 26 October 2015 16:26 (eight years ago) link

when I worked in BBC it was a massive global mailing list and there were these weird emails that used to go around about like technical outages or whatever, presumably blanket bombed to the entire organisation just in case it meant your programme got fucked off air. Every few months some disparate band of renegades would emerge to ask to be taken off the list, all of them mailing the entire list, prompted by some angry spartacus figure. Then somebody else would always reply that their angry emails were part of the problem. Once I replied and said "I'd just like to say I find this list informative and very useful - until we can be sure a majority are against being on it, I'd lean towards assuming people want to be added to it without their having to ask."

xpost hahaha

doing my Objectives, handling some intense stuff (LocalGarda), Monday, 26 October 2015 16:26 (eight years ago) link

hahaha yeah it was exactly like that. "please remove me from your email". I'm like man ,shutting down operations was that easy.

there was one guy who emailed back to say "gee, so glad to be working with a bunch of idiots" via reply all. he had a fairly common name, and people who saw that email looked up his name in the associate directory, found someone else with the same name that was showing as Terminated, and started spreading the rumor, which still incorrectly persists to this day, that the guy was fired for that email.

because the first thing you do during a massive server issue caused by a bunch of idiots replying all is seek out and fire a guy who sent one agitated email.

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Monday, 26 October 2015 16:31 (eight years ago) link

At my last job, when people walked away from their computers without locking them, other people would occasionally 1) take a screenshot, 2) hide the desktop icons, and 3) set up the screenshot as the background image. I was never a perpetrator, but I'd be lying if I said I didn't take some joy in watching the aftermath.

― I Was Picking Up A Teaspoon When Something Happened To My Spine (Old Lunch), Monday, October 26, 2015 4:26 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

OMG

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Monday, 26 October 2015 16:32 (eight years ago) link

Based on that WW2 list I've identified at least one saboteur in my office

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 26 October 2015 16:35 (eight years ago) link

i think there are people i worked with in my last job that would actually argue for the benefits of the approaches in that ww2 list, even if they hadn't realised these were their general reactions to most situations.

doing my Objectives, handling some intense stuff (LocalGarda), Monday, 26 October 2015 16:38 (eight years ago) link

I never realized before today that Six Sigma was a CIA term.

I Was Picking Up A Teaspoon When Something Happened To My Spine (Old Lunch), Monday, 26 October 2015 16:50 (eight years ago) link

How do you play these tricks on Germans though?

"Now hold on just a second, Hitler. Shouldn't we exercise some caution here and make sure that steering committee is on board as well?"

Exzellent question! The steering committee will be prescribed its duties from Section IV, Chapter 6, Paragraphs (14-23) after this meeting's minutes are offered to the from the Ministry of Transcribing. Their path is rather clear. Next question!"

pplains, Monday, 26 October 2015 16:58 (eight years ago) link

in one job I had if you left your screen unlocked people had fun with autocorrect in Word.
Kind retards,
etc

kinder, Monday, 26 October 2015 19:07 (eight years ago) link

hah ahahhaaa

AKA Thermo Thinwall (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 26 October 2015 19:11 (eight years ago) link

one of our customer service agents was frantically asking in a team chat about what to tell a customer who needed help with her Alpha David.

we kept asking "Alpha David? A.D.?"

she was trying to say "affidavit"

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Monday, 26 October 2015 19:21 (eight years ago) link

that's top notch

goole, Monday, 26 October 2015 19:57 (eight years ago) link

i love stuff like that:

the company picnic was a couple days ago. it's a big deal since there are 5k+ employees here. it's a big enough event that the local police and fire departments come and give some demos, community goodwill and all that. the cops show off their cop dogs, mainly.

i overheard a woman asking "is canine a breed of dog?" and she kept asking cos her coworkers' blank stares didn't really register correctly with her, i guess. and then a guy was trying to explain the visual pun of k-9 = canine. but she just kept asking.

― goole, Thursday, June 27, 2013 11:39 AM (2 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

goole, Monday, 26 October 2015 19:58 (eight years ago) link

this friend of my auntie's pronounces picturesque as "picture-es-cue"

doing my Objectives, handling some intense stuff (LocalGarda), Monday, 26 October 2015 21:58 (eight years ago) link

I saw a form asking for 'rest bite care'

kinder, Monday, 26 October 2015 22:00 (eight years ago) link

I knew the training I was leading yesterday was doomed when two people couldn't pronounce "indemnity". kept saying "identity plans"

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Monday, 26 October 2015 22:01 (eight years ago) link

lol kinder.

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Monday, 26 October 2015 22:01 (eight years ago) link

Suprised at the suprise over the "desktop icons as background image" prank, that ones old as the hills! As is the "set the startup sound as some really long annoying song in WAV format, then turn the speakers up full and disable the volume knob".

I checked Snoops , and it is for real (Trayce), Tuesday, 27 October 2015 00:16 (eight years ago) link

...I think Ive worked in IT for too long.

I checked Snoops , and it is for real (Trayce), Tuesday, 27 October 2015 00:16 (eight years ago) link

coworker's son got his car stolen with wallet/licence inside; says she hates men

more of a lol than annoying

F♯ A♯ (∞), Wednesday, 28 October 2015 17:18 (eight years ago) link

was sitting next to a customer service rep today in the office who kept banging the table whenever he got mad and picking pedantic fights with all of his customers. it's like he gets off on ruining 65 year old ladies' days

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Thursday, 29 October 2015 01:33 (eight years ago) link

Was just in a meeting with my boss and saw one of those red "MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN" Trump hats on a shelf behind him. Almost literally shuddered. Oh, well, this is the easiest and highest-paying job I've ever had, so...fuck it.

the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Thursday, 29 October 2015 15:56 (eight years ago) link

maybe it's an ironic make america great again hat

1999 ball boy (Karl Malone), Thursday, 29 October 2015 16:21 (eight years ago) link

My boss doesn't do irony.

the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Thursday, 29 October 2015 16:34 (eight years ago) link

was sitting next to a customer service rep today in the office who kept banging the table whenever he got mad and picking pedantic fights with all of his customers.

Do you live in MTL by any chance?

fields of salmon, Friday, 30 October 2015 01:08 (eight years ago) link

I wish

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Friday, 30 October 2015 01:09 (eight years ago) link

Three days ago: assurances from a senior director that our department is appreciated and seen as integral to the business.
Today: head of department sends a department wide email notifying us that there's going to be random drug testing.
I swear I'm living in a fucking Dilbert cartoon.

Does anyone know the Klingon for T'ai Chi? (snoball), Friday, 30 October 2015 18:57 (eight years ago) link

probably why you got the assurances in the first place

too young for seapunk (Moodles), Friday, 30 October 2015 18:58 (eight years ago) link

you're important to the business so please don't complain when we randomly drug test you hippie

too young for seapunk (Moodles), Friday, 30 October 2015 18:59 (eight years ago) link

The department is appreciated and integral to the business. The people who make up the department, however...

Trimming The Hegyes: The Life & Times Of A Sweathog's Barber (Old Lunch), Friday, 30 October 2015 19:03 (eight years ago) link

Well, we are a motley collection of scumbags...

Does anyone know the Klingon for T'ai Chi? (snoball), Friday, 30 October 2015 19:13 (eight years ago) link

Wow. I've never even heard of people being drug tested for jobs in the UK before!

Just noise and screaming and no musical value at all. (Colonel Poo), Friday, 30 October 2015 19:32 (eight years ago) link

I cannot see any valid reason to ever drug test an actual employee (as opposed to a potential hire) unless that employee is operating equipment that could somehow harm another person =and= said employee has exhibited behavior that is concerning in some way. Otherwise...the fuck does it matter?

Trimming The Hegyes: The Life & Times Of A Sweathog's Barber (Old Lunch), Friday, 30 October 2015 19:37 (eight years ago) link

xp it's happened to a few people I know. I think it's a bit more common in the US though. Oh, and 'refusal to participate in a random drug test will be treated in the same way as a positive test'.

Does anyone know the Klingon for T'ai Chi? (snoball), Friday, 30 October 2015 20:13 (eight years ago) link

I sure do feel appreciated and integral to the business! I don't take drugs and I haven't had a drink for 13 and a half years, but still this boils my piss. Which ironically is how I imagine they test for drugs.

Does anyone know the Klingon for T'ai Chi? (snoball), Friday, 30 October 2015 20:14 (eight years ago) link

having to write end of year comments for my upcoming evaluation in October seems kind of ridiculous

brb adding "contribute to ilx" to my performance goals

μpright mammal (mh), Friday, 30 October 2015 20:18 (eight years ago) link

have started using "I want x to happen" in emails, because its all that seem to work ffs

Citrix based systems Omfg fukkk uuuuuu

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Saturday, 31 October 2015 02:19 (eight years ago) link

The finance team has just noticed nobody has been invoiced for most of our products since April and can't even work out the order volumes to do it retrospectively. Good job I'm not bonused on reven...oh.

Al Ain Delon (ShariVari), Saturday, 31 October 2015 07:58 (eight years ago) link

xp there's a 77 thread for IT support peeps but I will just add that boy am I glad that Citrix is handled by another team here.

Does anyone know the Klingon for T'ai Chi? (snoball), Saturday, 31 October 2015 10:59 (eight years ago) link

Two people leaving next Thursday. First I heard was the Outlook appointment for leaving drinks...

koogs, Saturday, 31 October 2015 13:07 (eight years ago) link

We get that a lot here. There's a pretty strong grapevine, so I don't usually hear about leavers through Outlook, but the notice we get is about as short. Although sometimes I hear about people leaving after they've left - like a couple of weeks ago someone from another team was in our office to discuss some work, but this week I found out that he's gone. Even worse, he didn't do the work and no-one from his old team knows about it!

Does anyone know the Klingon for T'ai Chi? (snoball), Saturday, 31 October 2015 13:28 (eight years ago) link

do all managers go through the "bully" school of training or

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Wednesday, 4 November 2015 18:23 (eight years ago) link

feels like none of them know any method other than intimidation and fear and then it affects you so much that you start almost acting that way towards those that report to you until you catch yourself and realize those people are in the same impossible situation you're in.

I mean we expect a bunch of people who don't have a coach sitting in a room with them and have failing equipment to somehow be amazing at what they do.

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Wednesday, 4 November 2015 18:25 (eight years ago) link

It can have that knock on effect. We had an intensely bullying COO for years, and when he moved up to run the Sydney main office, suddenly all *my* managers and TLs turned into micromanaging assholes, because he was kicking their asses over stupid shit.

We had to lose a fuckload of good staff (quitting) before the CEO, I have assumed, realised how toxic this prick was and let him go. Everyone was kind of frightened of him.

I checked Snoops , and it is for real (Trayce), Wednesday, 4 November 2015 22:20 (eight years ago) link

yeah exactly, it trickles down. the guy in charge of this one was blaming my team for something another team failed to set up because WE didn't catch it in OUR testing (even though it's not part of our test plan to test for it).

we didn't used to have a bully environment here....it makes me sad to see it. esp after I have worked to the point of exhaustion the last two weeks to where I'm almost falling asleep at the wheel :/

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Wednesday, 4 November 2015 22:41 (eight years ago) link

(literally - I almost wrecked last night on the way home)

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Wednesday, 4 November 2015 22:41 (eight years ago) link

Two consultants who I'll call Tweedledum and Tweedledee, because they started at the same time and are always seen together, hit a new low today. They were unable to tell the difference between the large version of <product> and the small version of <product>, despite me practically having one of each on the bench and pointing to each one in turn saying "is it this one or this one?". These two fartnuggets are each paid TWICE my salary, yet I have no idea what they even do.

Does anyone know the Klingon for T'ai Chi? (snoball), Thursday, 5 November 2015 18:45 (eight years ago) link

they're optimizing synergistics to maximize the potential for prelapsarian euphoria

Aimless, Thursday, 5 November 2015 18:54 (eight years ago) link

Or maybe chainsmoking in the smoking area?

Does anyone know the Klingon for T'ai Chi? (snoball), Thursday, 5 November 2015 19:09 (eight years ago) link

this is an example of the shit our seasonal employees put us through:

emp: transaction is not working for me

me: Can you specify what it is that's not working?
s
emp: I try to run it, it doesn't work, gives error message

me: Can you be specific as to the error message you're receiving?

emp: when I click on it, it goes red, doesn't allow me to open

ME: CAN YOU PLEASE TELL ME WHAT THE ERROR MESSAGE SAYS? FOR THE THIRD TIME?

emp: (reads error message that clearly isn't an error message that has already been explained to them fifteen times)

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Friday, 6 November 2015 14:41 (eight years ago) link

naturally because our leaders think it's cute to spread everybody out in multiple locations, including some thousands of miles away, can't go by their desks anymore either.

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Friday, 6 November 2015 14:41 (eight years ago) link

I think it's a thing for people to take "What does the error message say?" to mean "Can you explain what the error message means?"

And/or people are compelled to cling to their frustration at something not working exactly as they like on the first try. They care as much about complaining as they do about a solution.

Je55e, Friday, 6 November 2015 17:22 (eight years ago) link

In my experience, a lot of people don't want the problem fixed, they want it to be someone else's fault.

Does anyone know the Klingon for T'ai Chi? (snoball), Friday, 6 November 2015 19:27 (eight years ago) link

TS: "uh the error message it, like, popped up in the middle of the screen, I couldn't enter any data" vs "yes it said something about an error in a module or something, and then it gave a number... that's enough for you, isn't it?"

a passing spacecadet, Friday, 6 November 2015 19:48 (eight years ago) link

tbh error messages that aren't copy/pasteable with no logging are horrible

as much as I hate screenshots, have them take a goddamn screenshot

μpright mammal (mh), Friday, 6 November 2015 20:15 (eight years ago) link

screenshots are the best but I fully understand the urge when an irritating message appears to pound the "fuck off" key before thinking "hmm I should press 'alt print screen' and email it to someone whose name I probably don't know"

a passing spacecadet, Friday, 6 November 2015 20:33 (eight years ago) link

the alt-fuckoff key combo is my go-to

μpright mammal (mh), Friday, 6 November 2015 20:35 (eight years ago) link

In my experience, a lot of people don't want the problem fixed, they want it to be someone else's fault.

Not quite a co-worker, but someone I have been forced to work with: the head nurse at my daughter's group home seemed to have only one governing rule for making any decision, which was to make it as difficult as possible for anyone to blame her for anything that might go wrong. She recently transferred away. My wife wanted to buy champagne when we heard.

Aimless, Friday, 6 November 2015 20:43 (eight years ago) link

Two consultants who I'll call Tweedledum and Tweedledee . . . These two fartnuggets are each paid TWICE my salary, yet I have no idea what they even do.

we also have a lot of exorbitantly paid consultants who do I have no idea what and whose 4x-ours pay is especially galling because management are not exactly putting in any effort to keep regular staff*, but I am in a good mood about them at the moment because one of them was wearing a very fine cat-on-modular-synth t-shirt yesterday

the guy who wears shorts and sandals with neon green socks in November, routinely works at the one seat in the kitchen and looks grumpy whenever anyone comes in even though he's got a desk elsewhere, however...

* e.g. 1. talk a lot in all-staff meetings about definitely finding some permanent jobs for our 90% fixed-term staff soon; advertise one permanent job; don't offer job to any of the current employees who apply or even anyone else, just keep advertising hoping for that unicorn

* e.g. 2. string someone along until the very last minute before their contract expired just before Christmas, then have them go unpaid over Christmas because their new contract didn't start until January (we don't work the week in between), THEN tell them that because they had a break in employment over Christmas they aren't eligible for longer-term-staff benefits despite working there for n years

a passing spacecadet, Friday, 6 November 2015 21:15 (eight years ago) link

that last one is evil, sneaky as hell

kinder, Friday, 6 November 2015 21:38 (eight years ago) link

if anywhere else had done it (my last workplace did something similar on a much smaller and more-my-fault scale, where a late timesheet shaved a bit off my redundancy benefit) I'd credit it to "evil", but at my current place I believe it may actually be at least 80% incompetence

of course perhaps that's what they want us to think, and it's no better for the person affected either way, and management still appear to be going "what? why would that bother anyone? why won't anyone apply to work here?!"

a passing spacecadet, Friday, 6 November 2015 21:56 (eight years ago) link

as much as I hate screenshots, have them take a goddamn screenshot

And when they send you it, it cuts off just above the bit of the error message that might actually be useful

Just noise and screaming and no musical value at all. (Colonel Poo), Friday, 6 November 2015 23:14 (eight years ago) link

Windows Remote Assistance to their computer, then grab the screenshot yourself. No point in letting these viscose trousered middle management twonks touch any more than they absolutely have to.

Does anyone know the Klingon for T'ai Chi? (snoball), Friday, 6 November 2015 23:38 (eight years ago) link

one thing to clarify here - I'm talking plain English edit messages that are intended to tell the user in one sentence why they're not allowed to do the thing they just tried to do, as opposed to GUI abends which I can't even figure out.

we have daily chats with our customer service agents, which are meant to be provided as a lifeline when they run into problems. it's well-staffed to where they usually don't have to wait long for a response. but what bogs it down is when you get that one person who wants to go out of their way to make it impossible for you to help them.

now, add the following "challenges" into the mix:

*they often work in different buildings so we can't walk by to help them (we used to always have them based in the same area)

*we use Microsoft Lync which comes with Whiteboard, but they decided that reps no longer need SnagIt or any of the easy "cut and paste" programs they used to put on the machines, so now their only option is PrntScreen (half of em don't know how to do it)

*they get treated like cattle, forced to change their schedules on a whim, and learn a gazillion different clients in one day virtual trainings led by unenthused instructors

....and you see why I hate my life

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Saturday, 7 November 2015 00:07 (eight years ago) link

some of the contractors told me (I can't verify if it's true, but it wouldn't surprise me) that they are told they aren't allowed to disconnect an abusive caller who is cussing and screaming at them.

usually the rule has always been, get them to a supervisor, but don't disconnect yourself. People on my team broke this rule for years and I always looked the other way because why the fuck am I gonna get on them for hanging up on someone who screams "fuck you!!!" at them. (hell once I got someone in serious hot water for continually calling my service center to shout abusive epithets at my employees).

but they staff these centers so badly now, that supervisors are often not available. so what's the alternative? Stay on the line and listen to gay and racial slurs until you're holding back tears, but no don't you dare drop that call???!!!

and, the company that hires these contractors will always throw them under the bus. had some serious technological issues in one of our partners' buildings one year, and they insisted that it was the contractors' faults, because they were using Citrix wrong.

a month later, when it was evident the technical issues were clearly beyond that of "user error", they admitted they lied to us.

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Saturday, 7 November 2015 00:11 (eight years ago) link

do they not have Win 7?? Start > type SNIPPING TOOL where it says "Search programs and files" > click Snipping Tool

Ina-Garten-Da-Vida (Stevie D(eux)), Saturday, 7 November 2015 03:55 (eight years ago) link

so we have a call center that takes Spanish calls in San Juan. SJ, Puerto Rico does not participate in Daylight savings time, so when the clocks rolled back in FL on 11/1, theirs did not, creating a one hour disparity, them now being an hour ahead on AST.

one of our Ops folks warned the schedulers at all locations in advance, saying the schedules would automatically be updated to reflect this in our scheduling system. In other words, the people in SJ would work the same shift, it would just look different in the scheduling tool to those of us on EST.

Somehow, the scheduling tool (or the person operating it) screwed up and pushed everybody's shift up an hour, meaning the SJ folk actually had their shifts changed this past Monday. Meaning the closers were scheduled to leave an hour BEFORE the service center closed. They got volunteers to work OT to cover the extra hour Monday and Tuesday, but nobody addressed the problem on the backend.

After a 25 email thread involving 8-10 people and lasting 3 hours, they thought they had it fixed, with the shift gap fixed starting tomorrow, and OT scheduled for tonight. Only the coach in that location wasn't on the same page, and nobody was set to work OT.

So nobody was logged in to take those calls the last hour, and one came in. Dude waited TWO HOURS in the phone queue before a manager realized what happened, and, not speaking Spanish, connected them to an interpreter.

I am actually LOLing over how something as simple as a time zone difference basically brought them to their knees. doesn't involve me at all, I'm kind of looking forward to the fingerpointing that everybody is going to launch into tomorrow.

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Thursday, 12 November 2015 02:59 (eight years ago) link

In other words, the people in SJ would work the same shift, it would just look different in the scheduling tool to those of us on EST.

actually this is wrong. their shift would have to be one hour later to accommodate for the time zone disparity. but...this didn't happen!

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Thursday, 12 November 2015 03:01 (eight years ago) link

what really amuses me is the late-hour meetings, handwringing, root cause analysis that will happen, the hours of work spent determining what went wrong, who to blame, the tectonic shifts in SOPs and governance that will come out of this....

all cos one person was made to wait two hours by accident.

Just think, that one complaint email you send to your Bank about the local branch closing early one night might be causing chaos behind the scenes. The power in the palm of your hands.

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Thursday, 12 November 2015 03:21 (eight years ago) link

Least favorite coworker running 4 hr meeting that started at 9 am

when will death come?

INTOXICATING LIQUORS (art), Wednesday, 18 November 2015 17:35 (eight years ago) link

see if you can make your stomach grumbles sound like In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 18 November 2015 17:38 (eight years ago) link

constant daily "state of the air-conditioning" comments still ongoing & driving me craaaaaazy

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 18 November 2015 21:14 (eight years ago) link

so yesterday they called an emergency 17 person training with like an hour's notice and asked us to drop everything and lead it. I was on a Megabus coming home (using a mobile hotspot to connect to network) so someone else was tapped to lead it.

he had a panic attack 10 minutes into the session, told the class "I just need a moment", then disappeared without a word never to return.

so there I was, briefly, for an hour, virtually training 17 learners while on a Megabus surrounded by confused, annoying looking passengers.

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Thursday, 19 November 2015 00:29 (eight years ago) link

told the class "I just need a moment", then disappeared without a word never to return.

This is an excellent tactic, will be trying this myself

as verbose and purple as a Peter Ustinov made of plums (James Morrison), Thursday, 19 November 2015 02:31 (eight years ago) link

is dude going to disciplined over this? i am legitimately v curious.
he didn't handle it well, but whoever put him in that position should be ashamed of themselves.

AKA Thermo Thinwall (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 19 November 2015 14:57 (eight years ago) link

lmao at "briefly, for an hour" and "Megabus" in the same sentence

Ina-Garten-Da-Vida (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 19 November 2015 16:26 (eight years ago) link

Was at bereavement at work session

group exercise: asked how we would like our own bereavement treatment

Me: some kind of acknowledgement when you first see me, then back to normal please.

Next person: look whatva shit the boss is.

Everyone: *nods*

MONKEY had been BUMMED by the GHOST of the late prancing paedophile (darraghmac), Thursday, 19 November 2015 17:11 (eight years ago) link

Next person: look whatva shit the boss is.

?

If authoritarianism is Romania's ironing board, then (in orbit), Thursday, 19 November 2015 17:47 (eight years ago) link

do you... are you in a gang?

AKA Thermo Thinwall (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 19 November 2015 17:48 (eight years ago) link

xxp did you then offer your sincerest appy-polly loggies?

Eins zwei PoliSci (snoball), Thursday, 19 November 2015 18:35 (eight years ago) link

is dude going to disciplined over this? i am legitimately v curious.
he didn't handle it well, but whoever put him in that position should be ashamed of themselves.

― AKA Thermo Thinwall (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, November 19, 2015 2:57 PM (7 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

nah he wasn't disciplined, and that's not even in consideration. He didn't handle well, no, but it wouldn't have happened in the first place if not for the shitty penny-pinching of our execs and a bunch of suits who think that training can literally be plucked from one's asshole at the 11th hour. the worst thing is they do this every year - and then do 'engagement' surveys, but when the results come in suggest it's our responsibility to stay engaged.

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Thursday, 19 November 2015 22:46 (eight years ago) link

also tho Megabus is fuckin awesome. except the Wifi

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Thursday, 19 November 2015 22:47 (eight years ago) link

Oh don't get me wrong, I love love love Megabus and use it several times a year, but an hour on any bus is never "brief". Also they started selling the "premium" seats for more money (and with a gross vinyl upholstering!) which kinda sucks, and the wi-fi and outlets are so hit or miss, but yeah go Megabus

Ina-Garten-Da-Vida (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 19 November 2015 22:56 (eight years ago) link

oh true, I mean the only time I was comfy was in those "premium" seats but the AC was on full blast when it was in the 60s outside. we were all freezing.

naturally, the time I wound up training on the bus is when I had one of those seats with no legroom. i was wearing a headset covered in toothpaste cos my toothpaste tube came out the plastic

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Friday, 20 November 2015 00:13 (eight years ago) link

aren't the premium seats exactly the same as regular seats (same leg room, etc) except with a) vinyl upholstery instead of fabric so they can print numbers on the backs b) towards the front of the bus?

Ina-Garten-Da-Vida (Stevie D(eux)), Friday, 20 November 2015 16:21 (eight years ago) link

that sounds like a very megabus tactic

i've told you guys my friend was on the megabus that got pulled over by the cops because the driver was drunk, right

μpright mammal (mh), Friday, 20 November 2015 16:23 (eight years ago) link

no!!! Tell us this story!!!!

Ina-Garten-Da-Vida (Stevie D(eux)), Friday, 20 November 2015 16:48 (eight years ago) link

not much to it, he was working in chicago but his wife was in iowa so he'd take megabus around every other weekend to commute. they were on the interstate and he figured it was kind of windy because the bus would kind of drift a little bit occasionally, no big deal

then
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/24/megabus-driver-charged-wi_n_1028320.html

μpright mammal (mh), Friday, 20 November 2015 16:52 (eight years ago) link

Yeah, that sounds like the Megabus I know. Sounds from replies itt like they may have stepped up their game in recent years but they were a decidedly grade-q service by the time I ultimately washed my hands of them altogether.

Say Goodbye To That Blood (Old Lunch), Friday, 20 November 2015 16:56 (eight years ago) link

I've taken that route a couple times and it was fine

I did almost run late because one of the bridges was up over the chicago river and I was trying to run with a suitcase and large bag and got clowned pretty hard by the driver when I was panting and sweating

μpright mammal (mh), Friday, 20 November 2015 17:00 (eight years ago) link

aren't the premium seats exactly the same as regular seats (same leg room, etc) except with a) vinyl upholstery instead of fabric so they can print numbers on the backs b) towards the front of the bus?

― Ina-Garten-Da-Vida (Stevie D(eux)), Friday, 20 November 2015 16:21 (2 hours ago) Permalink

the one sthat are $1 extra, yeah. but there are some for $5 extra that are at the top front of the bus, meaning there's nobody in front of you, and an assload of space/legroom. basically nothing between you and the windshield.

this is why I was able to sleep on a bus for the first time in my life pretty much

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Friday, 20 November 2015 18:32 (eight years ago) link

holy shit – the only time i ever sat at the front of a megabus, i would start nodding off and then take up terrified, white-knuckling the armrest because the first thing i would see upon slightly opening my eyes is wide open highway fling right at me!

AKA Thermo Thinwall (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 20 November 2015 20:43 (eight years ago) link

^^

https://media.giphy.com/media/xTiTnjsfQsvr57nlCw/giphy.gif

pplains, Saturday, 21 November 2015 02:48 (eight years ago) link

Ever since I read about that chinatown bus that decapitated all those people Ive been too scared to ever get on a long-distance style tall bus. Irrational I know. but ugh.

I checked Snoops , and it is for real (Trayce), Saturday, 21 November 2015 03:13 (eight years ago) link

Also, how the fuck do they not tip over more often?

...anyway, rather off topic.

I checked Snoops , and it is for real (Trayce), Saturday, 21 November 2015 03:14 (eight years ago) link

low center of gravity

μpright mammal (mh), Saturday, 21 November 2015 03:18 (eight years ago) link

was that a double-decker bus? megabus is single

μpright mammal (mh), Saturday, 21 November 2015 03:18 (eight years ago) link

Even some of those kind seem high! Like, with the storage underneath. I havent been on a long distance bus in years tbh, just as cheap to fly these days.

I checked Snoops , and it is for real (Trayce), Saturday, 21 November 2015 03:32 (eight years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2_T4WVnnFU

Eins zwei PoliSci (snoball), Saturday, 21 November 2015 09:03 (eight years ago) link

this woman actually says "easy peasy lemon squeezy" every 5 minutes

jello my future biafriend (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 1 December 2015 19:00 (eight years ago) link

only 14 days left in hell

jello my future biafriend (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 1 December 2015 19:00 (eight years ago) link

x-post lol oh no

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Tuesday, 1 December 2015 19:03 (eight years ago) link

- 3 hour mandatory training session on customer service today
- ive been doing this fucking job for 15 years and I barely do any "customer service" stuff anymore
- they booked everyone - all the helpdesk and accounts and L1 service people - into one session. Guys, who's going to man the actual phones while we are doing this?
- last min scramble ensues to shift half the people into another session
- which we got half an hours notice of just now.

WHEEEEEEEEEEE.

I checked Snoops , and it is for real (Trayce), Tuesday, 1 December 2015 22:26 (eight years ago) link

Got a new coworker (Coworker A) last year for a total of four in my team, including the manager. Mostly harmless. Cusses in her cubical a little much, but nothing major. However, whenever our other coworker (Coworker B) calls out from work on personal leave, Coworker A says "I'm calling shenanigans," implying that she doesn't believe that Coworker B (who has been with the company for nearly a decade) has a legitimate excuse to miss work.

In mid-November, co-worker A had to take a week of personal leave due to the flu. We all sent along messages of sympathy and compassion. "Hope you get well soon." Etc.

Two weeks later coworker B had to take personal leave for health reasons as well. She was hospitalized for several days and was out for over over a week. Coworker A's response? Almost every day: "I'M CALLING SHENANIGANS!"

how's life, Wednesday, 9 December 2015 11:38 (eight years ago) link

Have u a shenanigans process once invoked? Simple enough to build in a catch for frivolous claims.

MONKEY had been BUMMED by the GHOST of the late prancing paedophile (darraghmac), Wednesday, 9 December 2015 14:05 (eight years ago) link

Is Shenanigan's the pub down the street? Maybe she wants to know what time Happy Hour is over.

pplains, Wednesday, 9 December 2015 14:33 (eight years ago) link

wow rude

μpright mammal (mh), Wednesday, 9 December 2015 15:05 (eight years ago) link

I think pplains nailed it, that must be it

cory artangel (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 9 December 2015 15:49 (eight years ago) link

Learners in training decide to make disparaging remarks to our San Juan learners who are attending on the phone. It's like grade school.

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Thursday, 10 December 2015 00:09 (eight years ago) link

I opted not to attend my company's off-site holiday party, which is being held today from noon until ??? and which effectively shuts the office down because more people are attending than not. At quarter 'til 12, as everyone is filing out and I'm kinda wrapping up what I'm working on, I get an email "reminding" (AKA mentioning for the first time ever) those of us who chose not to attend that we're expected to work a full eight hours while everyone else is drinking it up elsewhere. I've been seriously considering leaving this job for a while but that might honestly be the end of it for me. No timely communication or consideration ever, on top of numerous other complaints. Fuuuuuuck this.

Some Pizza Grudge From Twenty Years Ago (Old Lunch), Thursday, 10 December 2015 17:54 (eight years ago) link

What the hell.

Though to be honest, if they gave me a choice of going to the retreat or working the full days I would be working, I'd take the latter.

pplains, Thursday, 10 December 2015 18:55 (eight years ago) link

I don't care so much that the expectation is that people have to work the full day if they aren't attending the party. I care that they voiced this expectation at literally the last possible minute, and as a "reminder". And, for the douche trifecta, my boss communicated this through a proxy so as to not look like the bad guy in this situation.

Some Pizza Grudge From Twenty Years Ago (Old Lunch), Thursday, 10 December 2015 19:03 (eight years ago) link

our christmas party instructions came with 6 points of order all of which boiled down to 'don't drink too much and make an idiot of yourselves / the company'. which is a change from, and probably a consequence of, last year when everybody got given 6 free drinks tokens.

koogs, Thursday, 10 December 2015 20:32 (eight years ago) link

xp can't you just blow it off at that point and be like "dude you told us this minutes before, how could we possibly be expected to do this?"

cory artangel (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 10 December 2015 22:26 (eight years ago) link

or just say yes to the party and not show up, that's what i'd gladly do

cory artangel (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 10 December 2015 22:27 (eight years ago) link

yeah depending on how big the group is, just claim you were there

μpright mammal (mh), Thursday, 10 December 2015 22:31 (eight years ago) link

^^

if you do that, be sure to post a poem on yr tumblr about how lonely you felt at the party and how it seemed like no one even noticed you, and edit the publication date to an hour or so after the party ended. that way you can claim that you were at the party and if anyone claims that you weren't, you can point to the poem on yr tumblr, providing a convincing alibi and possibly also pushing your poetry career to a new level

Karl Malone, Thursday, 10 December 2015 22:41 (eight years ago) link

also: become a tumblr poet

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 10 December 2015 23:43 (eight years ago) link

So I've been continuing to train a room of 25 contractors and they expect me to simultaneously train 4 people in San Juan over the phone. Always a losing proposition, but as stated upthread, even more difficult when your in-room learners make so much damn noise that nobody on the phone can hear, even despite repeated pleas from me and the other managers to cut out the side conversations and just listen. Also made some rude remarks about the San Juan learners that those learners could hear on the phone.

Naturally when the efforts of me and the other managers failed, because they're contractors and not employed by us (so we can't discipline them), I gave feedback to their managers to see if they could address with their employees. Shame on me for assuming, but when they agreed to come by, I had assumed it was just going to be a polite reminder to please be respectful of other learners, and to stop being disruptive/pay attention etc.

Their manager asked me to leave the room, but my buddy stayed in. He told me the manager went full-on nuclear on them, threatening their job security, etc. I was horrified and now I feel terrible - they weren't being *that* bad.

No wonder these folks don't do well if this is the kind of message they get on a regular basis.

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Friday, 11 December 2015 04:59 (eight years ago) link

... And that you're in a position of having to train 25 of them at a time.

Whenever I start to get into a situation like this, I insist on each person attending from his/her desk or couch or whatever with a headset. This way I can mute all background noise and ensure every participant is treated equally. This also reduces the clusterfuck created by two or more "live" groups constantly having side conversations or talking over someone from the other group.

One satellite office manager asshole I had near-daily videoconferences with was in the habit of openly muting the mic so he could disparage me or someone in my team to his own assembled victim-team. I returned the favour by routinely highlighting his aggressiveness and ineptitude during meetings in head office. He was gone three months later. Satellite always loses, friend.

fields of salmon, Monday, 14 December 2015 21:46 (eight years ago) link

I mean, fuck, he reached over and hit the mute, and we all sat silently trying to lip read obscenities on a giant LCD screen. Then back to the meeting.

fields of salmon, Monday, 14 December 2015 21:49 (eight years ago) link

omg at that manager - at least be discreet if yr gonna be an asshole. re: training I could have done virtually, but I generally dislike that method as I catch learners napping all the time (they aren't well supervised).

so anywho...they gave me a project manager to report to that is completely useless. It's not even Peter principle - I can't imagine what she excels at even at a lower level.

Early on she kept trying to get me to do her tasks for her, which of course I refused. I then learned she'd been pulling this shit on other direct reports on other projects, more than likely using the excuse that she was 'grooming' the employee for the next level. Likewise, it's not uncommon for someone to do something they're not supposed to either because they don't know better or they're afraid to upset the "person in charge". Me, on the other hand, I used to do this person's job (and left because I hated it), so I need no such grooming, and she seemed stunned when I said "no".

She also, for a while, would basically try to get me to draft every email for her. During meetings, she would ping me and go "OMG WHAT SHOULD I SAY NOW". all while she was whining about all the 'negative feedback' she gets. I had to beg her on three separate occasions to just do her job so I could do mine, had to complain to my boss and hers (the latter who has acknowledged her problems and basically has to babysit her because of it).

She took a whole week's vacation last week (which is poor form when you're in the last month of a project), but despite it making me fall behind, I backed her up and ensured that everything stayed on track. So how does she repay me?

I take a rare day off today and suddenly she starts pelting me with text messages asking me questions about something that happened in training last week. Almost every question, I had proactively answered in the email I sent her before I left the office Friday, which I passive-aggressively pointed out.

I think the only reason she has a job is because they can't afford to lose headcount right now but if she eventually gets shitcanned, she'll be the only one surprised. This is also the person that took credit for things I did on a project three years ago rather than clarifying she had nothing to do with either.

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Tuesday, 15 December 2015 00:43 (eight years ago) link

mean, fuck, he reached over and hit the mute, and we all sat silently trying to lip read obscenities on a giant LCD screen.

LOL what a knob! How could he not have known it was obvious if he was ON CAMERA.

I checked Snoops , and it is for real (Trayce), Tuesday, 15 December 2015 00:54 (eight years ago) link

after a while the lip-reading probably wasn't necessary, just the hitting of the mute button was enough to signal what he was doing

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Tuesday, 15 December 2015 00:57 (eight years ago) link

im leaving my current job with mostly this question on my mind: why would anyone talk to a person who is trying to eat their lunch ever at any time and for any reason

jello my future biafriend (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 15 December 2015 17:43 (eight years ago) link

It's a great question. We were just reminded this morning about a loose policy strongly encouraging employees to eat somewhere other than their desks so that people aren't tempted to ask them work-related questions while they're off the clock. To which I silently replied, I'm going to continue eating at my desk until you drag me bodily away from my desk, and your inability to register the fact that my montiors are off and that I'm eating food and browing the internet on my personal device is pretty firmly your problem.

Some Pizza Grudge From Twenty Years Ago (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 15 December 2015 18:00 (eight years ago) link

I'm surrounded by ppl for whom that's not a great indicator as to whether they're clocked in or not tbh

MONKEY had been BUMMED by the GHOST of the late prancing paedophile (darraghmac), Tuesday, 15 December 2015 18:43 (eight years ago) link

yeah, i love that. happened today. guy rolls into my cubicle in the middle of lunch hour, right after i take a big bite of my sandwich and i've got like barbecue sauce on my hands and face. i was civil and helped him out, but i seriously had a flash of internal rage.

circa1916, Tuesday, 15 December 2015 19:16 (eight years ago) link

At the printing company in Redding, I was no safer eating lunch in the break room than I was at my desk. If I really wanted to be undisturbed I had to leave the building. Hated that shit.

Phlegm Snopes (WilliamC), Tuesday, 15 December 2015 19:30 (eight years ago) link

what happens if you just tell these savages "I'm finishing lunch, I'll get back to you in fifteen minutes"

μpright mammal (mh), Tuesday, 15 December 2015 19:31 (eight years ago) link

Through a mouthful of half-chewed sandwich that you're spraying into their faces.

Some Pizza Grudge From Twenty Years Ago (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 15 December 2015 19:31 (eight years ago) link

"ok, I'll catch you later, it's just it was about this client who emailed saying...." ARGHHH

kinder, Tuesday, 15 December 2015 19:45 (eight years ago) link

90% of the people I deal with are salaried and if you're a manager or project lead who is in meetings all the damn time, it's not rare (or at least not rare enough) to get scheduled for a meeting over lunch with the expectation people will eat during the meeting

luckily I haven't had that problem for a while, but there were a couple years there where I had at least one lunch meeting per week. sometimes we'd get food catered by the corporate cafeteria, but... that food sucks

μpright mammal (mh), Tuesday, 15 December 2015 19:56 (eight years ago) link

When I had an office, I kept the door open unless I was eating, but when it was closed, a big sign hung there that read "NOW IS NOT THE TIME." Of course, I haven't had an office with a door since 2005. Oh, well.

the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Tuesday, 15 December 2015 19:58 (eight years ago) link

Interruption from general manager: I didn't say shit to him.
Interruption from front office CSRs: uncomprehending blinking and just standing there. Usually they eventually went away, but sometimes it would be a question for a customer who was standing at the front counter drumming his fingers.
Interruption from sales reps: "I just need 2 minutes and I have to go back out on the road." They're trained to ignore anything anyone says to them anyway.
Never got interrupted by my dept. head, who was one of the best bosses I ever had, or by the press and bindery crew, whose own breaks were inviolate and understood that other people's were as well.

Phlegm Snopes (WilliamC), Tuesday, 15 December 2015 20:05 (eight years ago) link

I do not understand why people eat at their desks. Your lunch break is a break. Use it. You need the headspace.

I checked Snoops , and it is for real (Trayce), Tuesday, 15 December 2015 22:27 (eight years ago) link

Christ on a bike workmate, stop sniff-horking phlegm up your nose/into your throat every 10 seconds, it sounds fucking disgusting.

I checked Snoops , and it is for real (Trayce), Tuesday, 15 December 2015 23:05 (eight years ago) link

I generally pack my own lunch so my options are either eat at my desk alone or eat in the break room with coworkers. I guess I could also eat in my car or bring my lunch to another restaurant? Desk wins, thanks.

circa1916, Tuesday, 15 December 2015 23:17 (eight years ago) link

manager whose office sits along a corridor that leads to the bathroom/exit thank you for the revolting stench of mothballs that emanates out of said office

Karl Rove Knausgård (jim in glasgow), Tuesday, 15 December 2015 23:30 (eight years ago) link

Worst lunch botherers are the ones who ask first then bother you anyway.

"Sorry to interrupt, are you on your lunch break?"
"YES!"
"Quick question about..."

Fuck off!

ilxors ananimus (onimo), Wednesday, 16 December 2015 00:23 (eight years ago) link

Annoying singing guy today:
"It was the summer. The summer of fifty nine!"

ilxors ananimus (onimo), Wednesday, 16 December 2015 00:24 (eight years ago) link

I eat at my desk. It's either that or sit in the breakroom and watch Gunsmoke with Wayne.

pplains, Wednesday, 16 December 2015 00:46 (eight years ago) link

And they just went back to the b/w episodes which I don't really care about.

pplains, Wednesday, 16 December 2015 00:46 (eight years ago) link

My desk is in no way quieter than the break room - Im surrounded by people and barely even have cubicle walls. TBH though I often just go out all together, its a good headclear.

I checked Snoops , and it is for real (Trayce), Wednesday, 16 December 2015 00:50 (eight years ago) link

But see, all the loudmouths in my office go out to lunch leaving me in there for the only hour it's quiet.

pplains, Wednesday, 16 December 2015 00:58 (eight years ago) link

In a situ like that I'd prob stay at my desk to tbrh

I checked Snoops , and it is for real (Trayce), Wednesday, 16 December 2015 01:00 (eight years ago) link

People who knowingly disrupt your lunch are shitfucks.

If I see food on a desk I wait a half hour yo approach.

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Wednesday, 16 December 2015 01:09 (eight years ago) link

Today my project lead scheduled a debrief at the same time my training went to lunch. Result....i didn't eat.

Its like she thinks I can train, eat, and meet at the same time

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Wednesday, 16 December 2015 01:10 (eight years ago) link

irritating foodie-obsessed coworker brought in potato chips that have crickets (insect) in them, has been pushing them on everyone all day & thinks it's the funnest most endearing thing ever

FUCK OFF WITH YOUR STUPID FUCKING DEAD BUG SNACKS

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 17 December 2015 00:49 (eight years ago) link

lol I hope I haven't been food novelty dude like that

μpright mammal (mh), Thursday, 17 December 2015 00:52 (eight years ago) link

there's been an ongoing -- like, over years -- discussion in my office re: would you rather eat a jar of mayonnaise or one live cockroach

i like mayo, but a surprising number of ppl are conflicted

mookieproof, Thursday, 17 December 2015 01:01 (eight years ago) link

a whole jar? do I get some sauce to dip the cockroach in, or do I have to chew/swallow it dry?

μpright mammal (mh), Thursday, 17 December 2015 01:04 (eight years ago) link

on a coworker note, some entomology dudes ordered some madagascar hissing cockroaches and offered a bunch up to whoever wanted via in-workplace classified ads. someone i worked with got one and had it living in his desk drawer for a long time. not sure how long it lasted, but it was pretty chill. i called it "hissy"

μpright mammal (mh), Thursday, 17 December 2015 01:06 (eight years ago) link

glad i don't know any entomology dudes

mookieproof, Thursday, 17 December 2015 01:11 (eight years ago) link

I feel kind of bad they use them for "eat a cockroach" challenges, hissy was pretty chill. lived in a little container in a drawer with a moist sponge and a fresh piece of lettuce dropped in a couple times per week.

μpright mammal (mh), Thursday, 17 December 2015 01:12 (eight years ago) link

having a bug as a pet is much better than eating a bug

i am firmly anti-bug eating

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 17 December 2015 04:02 (eight years ago) link

Crickets are p tasty

glandular lansbury (sic), Thursday, 17 December 2015 05:24 (eight years ago) link

shut up

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 17 December 2015 05:40 (eight years ago) link

The international publicists' lair around the corner had an innocuous freebie ice-cream cart next to its front doors one day this summer. Upon closer inspection, the ice cream being given away had all kinds of grubs and locusts in it because: 21st Century protein.

Nope. NO NO NO NO NO.

voodoo rage (suzy), Thursday, 17 December 2015 07:38 (eight years ago) link

There was (still is, I assume) an edible bug exhibit at the Insect Museum in New Orleans, and the waxworms were tasty enough.

Mister, would you please help my brony? (WilliamC), Thursday, 17 December 2015 13:41 (eight years ago) link

Only bugs I eat in New Orleans are mudbugs.

pplains, Thursday, 17 December 2015 14:27 (eight years ago) link

i must be a freak – i eat at my desk maybe half the time, and totally don't mind people coming by and asking questions about things. i just take a little longer to eat/surf the interwebs. sometime i'll even do work!

AKA Thermo Thinwall (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 17 December 2015 15:41 (eight years ago) link

i sometimes eat at desk. in some jobs any of the local cafes or places were so shit that my desk felt more calm and familiar.

japanese mage (LocalGarda), Thursday, 17 December 2015 15:42 (eight years ago) link

My thing is that I'm trying to plow through my day as quickly as possible. So I don't leave and take a full hour walking someplace for a leisurely lunch when I can sprint through 20 minutes at my desk and gtfo of here asap. P.S. I kinda hate my job.

Some Pizza Grudge From Twenty Years Ago (Old Lunch), Thursday, 17 December 2015 15:44 (eight years ago) link

My thing is that I'm trying to plow through my day as quickly as possible. So I don't leave and take a full hour walking someplace for a leisurely lunch when I can sprint through 20 minutes at my desk and gtfo of here asap. P.S. I kinda hate my job.

I don't understand this. Your job has a "you can leave when your work is done" policy? Cause every job I've ever had has been "you're here until five, or six, or whatever time." So take a long-ass lunch if you can.

the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Thursday, 17 December 2015 15:55 (eight years ago) link

lots of jobs are like that, where you're supposed to work a certain number of hours, and lunch doesn't count toward it. the longer the lunch, the longer you have to stay at work.

Karl Malone, Thursday, 17 December 2015 16:00 (eight years ago) link

Yeah, start and end time is flexible (one of the only things I really appreciate about this job). So I show up early, put in my 8, and jet.

Some Pizza Grudge From Twenty Years Ago (Old Lunch), Thursday, 17 December 2015 16:02 (eight years ago) link

Ah, weird. At my job I'm here from 8 to 5 (except for once a month when there's a meeting that starts at 7), period. Somewhere in there, I get an hour for lunch.

the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Thursday, 17 December 2015 16:14 (eight years ago) link

We have to take 30mins but after that you can come in from 8-7

MONKEY had been BUMMED by the GHOST of the late prancing paedophile (darraghmac), Thursday, 17 December 2015 16:17 (eight years ago) link

yeah supposed to take 2 (unpaid) 1/2 hour breaks at my work. I take none and work 7 1/2 hours straight through then leave.

pandemic, Thursday, 17 December 2015 17:00 (eight years ago) link

having a bug as a pet is much better than eating a bug

bought mealworms for then-live-in-partner's pet turtle once; turtle didn't eat them and we felt bad about just dropping the things in the pot repeatedly to go uneaten and drown, so we left the rest to live in their plastic box and topped their food up and so on, most of them died eventually but one of them hatched into a beetle and so we moved it to a bigger box and tried to feed it various kinds of leafy vegetables as that was what the internet said iirc (it didn't really eat any green things we put in but it ate the kitchen roll we put in as a mat)

it lasted for ages, was a nice little guy

perhaps not the best pet for explaining to houseguests tho, "oh that cockroachy-looking thing that lives in the big plastic box full of rotting salad and shredded, decaying kitchen paper? yeah he's my pet"

a passing spacecadet, Thursday, 17 December 2015 21:45 (eight years ago) link

The international publicists' lair around the corner had an innocuous freebie ice-cream cart next to its front doors one day this summer. Upon closer inspection, the ice cream being given away had all kinds of grubs and locusts in it because: 21st Century protein.

They pulled that stunt here recently too - something the Economist were on. Everyone was FREE ICECREAM oh wait.

I checked Snoops , and it is for real (Trayce), Thursday, 17 December 2015 22:36 (eight years ago) link

Yes, it was an Economist promo (I am jaded about free local promo ice cream because a trolley inevitably parks outside the Fashion Week venue two blocks away during the shows). People here were 50/50 split on yes please/EW BUGS.

voodoo rage (suzy), Thursday, 17 December 2015 23:25 (eight years ago) link

"oh that cockroachy-looking thing that lives in the big plastic box full of rotting salad and shredded, decaying kitchen paper? yeah he's my pet"

wish this could be my dn

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Friday, 18 December 2015 04:51 (eight years ago) link

person in charge of my project made yet another royal blunder, and when questioned on it, instead of owning the mistake, wrote that "HSB and I didn't know about xxx at the time of the meeting, so we missed providing this information to so-and-so".

Excuse me...WE? That was your job, not mine. That snip sound you're hearing is me cutting your cord, you can navigate this shit on your own now.

(I'm in no trouble, mind you - she's been in hot water for months, but to get dragged into her mess was still infuriating nonetheless).

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Monday, 28 December 2015 14:12 (eight years ago) link

apparently she got in some trouble for this but now due to her failures we have to train 6 extra people and they seem to be expecting me to add them to a training I'm already doing for experienced people meaning I have to change my training plan last minute. once again, her screwup screws me over. but she's not likely to emerge from this one undamaged - there's been a lot of noise and complaints sent her way from people all over the company.

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Tuesday, 29 December 2015 01:47 (eight years ago) link

I'm working skeleton during the office closedown over xmas/nye break, and the guy opposite me is running skeleton for the helpdesk of another company brand. The co does this stupid "if you were last hired, you can cop the xmas break days no one else wants" rule, which if you ask me is fcking stupid if someone's only been on board a few months and isnt quite up to speed yet. Sigh.

This guy seems flailing and clueless. He speaks in a rapid, quiet spanish accent that must be throwing the customers. He whinges all day long about how he'd rather be at home and why the heck do we have to work on xmas anyway, how can they make us workkkkk, bla bla.

And Ive told him 3 times now that if his phone display says [mydept] to not answer it as [hisdept] but hes doing it anyway arrghhhh.

I checked Snoops , and it is for real (Trayce), Tuesday, 29 December 2015 02:29 (eight years ago) link

skeleton shifts are the worst. I used to work em voluntarily until I realized how much more aggravating it is to be trying to get shit done with who is left in the office than just leaving it for another day.

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Tuesday, 29 December 2015 02:42 (eight years ago) link

but not everyone even has the option!

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Tuesday, 29 December 2015 02:42 (eight years ago) link

Yeah, this is in my case covering 2nd/3rd level support for a major, national mobile phone chain. That shit dont stop just cos its xmas. Luckily its been reasonably quiet.

I checked Snoops , and it is for real (Trayce), Tuesday, 29 December 2015 03:34 (eight years ago) link

xxp I work for an in-house IT support department and it's ridiculous. Only a third of IT are in, and practically no-one else from other departments. So it's basically impossible to get any actual work done.

January 1, be the same sh!t as December 31 (snoball), Tuesday, 29 December 2015 18:59 (eight years ago) link

Nothing to do with my co-workers, who are all perfectly fine people, but I just found out that my office is not closed tomorrow, as I had previously believed - we're open until 2 PM. I am...displeased.

the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Wednesday, 30 December 2015 17:48 (eight years ago) link

All workplaces that don't have actual customers walking through the doors need to stop pretending that anything important or undelayable happens between Christmas and NYE.

Some Pizza Grudge From Twenty Years Ago (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 30 December 2015 17:55 (eight years ago) link

Otm

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Thursday, 31 December 2015 02:53 (eight years ago) link

THIS

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 31 December 2015 04:52 (eight years ago) link

every email i sent came back 2/3rds out of office auto replies

my own goddamn customers are closed ffs

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 31 December 2015 04:53 (eight years ago) link

During our last team meeting, someone asked our manager whether the office would be closing early on NYE. And she hemmed and hawed and was all well um okay technically I don't have an issue with anyone leaving early but we have to consider, like, what if someone contacts us about sealing a deal at the last minute on NYE, we definitely don't want to lose the business because we don't have coverage. And my logical progression from that was that technically she doesn't have an issue with people leaving after working a full day or taking a weekend off b-b-but what if some procrastinating dipshit of a client decides to contact us at 3AM on a Saturday about something that needs to close first thing Monday morning, OH GOD WHAT THEN?!?!? WHAT IF SOMEONE CALLS US WHILE WE'RE PEEING?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

Some Pizza Grudge From Twenty Years Ago (Old Lunch), Thursday, 31 December 2015 05:16 (eight years ago) link

yeah at some point you have to just be a fucking human being. tired of this cattle call "let's staff for the unlikeliest of situations even though we could probably figure something out if this happened anyway" bullshit in the workplace.

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Thursday, 31 December 2015 15:10 (eight years ago) link

here's why my (work) life is living hell at the moment:

*Since late October, I've logged 200+ hours facilitating training. I can count the number of days I wasn't leading training on less than ten fingers

*This is largely because after our open enrollment period ended, they took away 25 of my 41 already trained reps and replaced them with brand new transfers

*I was forced to train these 25 people all at once in three days, while simultaneously training 4 people on the phone in Puerto Rico who often couldn't hear because the class in my room was disruptive and loud despite my efforts

*The person leading my project is a moron and basically asks me to do her job for her ("What should I say in this email?", "What should I do now?", to the point where her boss had to ask me to stop helping her, even if I was asked to

*The reps I was just given to train are supposed to be the "high performers" from open enrollment that were retained for their good performance. Several of these "high performers" are actually near termination for poor performance. If this was the best of the best, I shudder to think who was cut.

On the flipside, it's all over in January.

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Thursday, 31 December 2015 15:17 (eight years ago) link

It's been such a culture shock since we transitioned from being a small, independent company to a subsidiary of a huge corporation that siphons money like an addict gobbling pills. We just lost the last manager from the old company so I expect things to go properly down the toilet very soon.

Some Pizza Grudge From Twenty Years Ago (Old Lunch), Thursday, 31 December 2015 15:17 (eight years ago) link

I'm with you there. we got acquired years ago and the culture that was there when I started 11 years ago is gone. everybody's nasty, vitriolic, and while the work hasn't changed, the means of doing it has gotten harder cos so many people keep leaving.

nothing beats working for a smaller private company that does its own thing and doesn't have to appease shraeholders.

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Thursday, 31 December 2015 15:20 (eight years ago) link

The only real positive these days is that I work with literally zero day-to-day management. I mean, I have a manager, but I never see or hear from her outside of meetings and she displays no interest whatsoever in what we're working on unless something breaks. So I go out of my way to make sure nothing ever breaks. The downside of no management is a lack of clear communication and difficulty getting any kind of response from the top, and an increasing lack of accountability among those employees who probably frankly need to be micromanaged. Dude across the aisle from me was asleep and snoring loudly at his desk for at least half an hour yesterday. Not for the first time. But it's cool becuz his aunt is his boss, iirc? And don't even get me started on the other dude who's taken regular 45+ minute toity breaks (usually several times a day) for the past three years without it ever being noticed by management.

Gah, I successfully avoided posting ITT for so long.....

Some Pizza Grudge From Twenty Years Ago (Old Lunch), Thursday, 31 December 2015 15:31 (eight years ago) link

company we take calls for refuses to print insurance carriers' actual phone numbers on the ID cards their employees are given. they demand that the carriers instead put the phone number for our call center, and force them to navigate the phone menu and pick the right prompts to then route to the carrier.

problem is - this is the same number, as previously stated, that they call to reach us to enroll in benefits. so naturally if they pick the wrong option (or pound out, or don't pick anything), the call has to go *somewhere*, and it goes to us. So 70% of our calls are people actually trying to reach their insurance company and being aggravated when we have to transfer them (and then we give them the direct number anyway).

our main contact, we provided the radical suggestion of printing the actual insurance company's phone number on the insurance company's ID card and they scoffed, saying "we only want our employees to have to remember one number".

idk I mean generally doing your employees a "favor" is supposed to mean they don't complain angrily about the decision you made on their behalf while you ignore their pleas, but ymmv

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Friday, 8 January 2016 03:18 (eight years ago) link

I called up Facilities to report a strong smell of decay in the tap water from the men's toilets yesterday.

Me: there's a strong bacterial / decay smell, etc
F: You need to log a ticket online and we'll look into it
Me: That's fine, but the new ticket system says it isn't available at HQ yet and to call you
F: Well it shouldn't say that
M: Ok...
F: You'll need to get IT to change the system
M: That usually takes a few days and it's not really my...
F: IT will need to fix that
M: I think something has died in the water tank and it could be a health hazard
F: If you tell IT they might do it more quickly

Needless to say I just started using a different floor's bathroom.

On a Raqqa tip (ShariVari), Friday, 8 January 2016 06:54 (eight years ago) link

Omfg that is ridic. I hate when people try to make you solve a problem just because you're the one that discovered it. How hard would it have been for that dude on the phone to just follow up for you. Esp when health risks are involved.

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Friday, 8 January 2016 12:52 (eight years ago) link

Yeah, conscience got the better of me in the end and i got it fixed but it's not great.

On a Raqqa tip (ShariVari), Friday, 8 January 2016 12:56 (eight years ago) link

heh probably what i woulda done too but still....

did they find out what the scent was?

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Friday, 8 January 2016 12:58 (eight years ago) link

I hate when people try to make you solve a problem just because you're the one that discovered it.

At my previous job, the developers spent something like two years prepping a new document management system. The new DMS was set up such that, once a client's record was closed in our system, that client disappeared from the live DMS. Which would be fine, except that closed client records were often reopened at some point, and I noticed very quickly that reopened clients didn't reappear in the live DMS. I, of course, made the mistake of alerting people to this problem that absolutely positively should've been a consideration at some point during the aforementioned two-year development process. And guess who the CIO asked to compile a fucking list every fucking day of every fucking reopened client and send to the fucking developers?

Beef Wets (Old Lunch), Friday, 8 January 2016 13:19 (eight years ago) link

I have noticed this so many times!! It is insane that so many ppl operate w/in frameworks where they are in essence punished for excelling

otttmmmm

kinder, Friday, 8 January 2016 13:42 (eight years ago) link

I've curbed that whole 'excelling' thing to a pretty great extent after my last job.

Beef Wets (Old Lunch), Friday, 8 January 2016 13:43 (eight years ago) link

Where I was ultimately doing the job of 3.5 people for basically the same pay I made when I did the job of 1.0 people. So when my current job is all like 'these are the challenges we'd like you to undertake in the new year' and they only want to give me a $0.30/hr raise, I'm all like 'nah, I'm good, thanks'.

Beef Wets (Old Lunch), Friday, 8 January 2016 13:46 (eight years ago) link

I hate when people try to make you solve a problem just because you're the one that discovered it.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Just noise and screaming and no musical value at all. (Colonel Poo), Friday, 8 January 2016 13:59 (eight years ago) link

xp I'm at this place where I'm in a rut bcz I'm still kind of on the ground floor in my field, and I want/need to be ambitious and expand my skillset and learn new things, so there are many instances where I've taken on projects and volunteered to do things outside of my job descrip and then gotten fucked in various ways. Once I got screwed out of a bonus bcz I didn't meet the metrics for my actual job position, bcz I spent so little time in the bonus period doing it (phone support) and so much doing other things (developing training materials, helping migrate the intranet, etc). Both I and my manager were PISSED and the bumbling HR dept was basically like "yeah that's such a shame, it's too bad we can't do anything about it"

hey man you have a seat and everyone else in your section has gone home, sit in your damn seat and talk at a normal volume instead of pacing up and down right outside the door to our section bellowing down the phone

a passing spacecadet, Friday, 8 January 2016 16:50 (eight years ago) link

also that sucks, sorry Stevie

a passing spacecadet, Friday, 8 January 2016 16:50 (eight years ago) link

There was a small group of people relocated to our (previously pretty quiet) aisle a couple of months ago, and MY GOD do they talk. Constantly, about any banal thing, and at a volume level that suggests they want everyone in the office to listen in. One dude is particularly egregious. I honestly don't know how he can possibly get any work done. On a day like today, when he's out of the office, is glaring.

Beef Wets (Old Lunch), Friday, 8 January 2016 17:01 (eight years ago) link

totally with you Old Lunch/Stevie on being punished for excellence. On several of my last projects, because I watch things very closely, I've identified problems where somehow, even though I wasn't the person who knew how to fix it , I got tasked with owning and watching over it, and re-explaining the problem to all of the groups. which then takes me away from what I'm supposed to do.

I tend to be the type that won't ignore a problem that he sees, but the problem is everywhere I look, I see problems - lots of people tend to cut corners these days or not pay attention, and I have a keen eye, so the problem becomes ok, I don't want to create extra work for myself and make my life hell, but I also know xxx is wrong/broken and I wouldn't feel right seeing it and not saying anything about it, but at the same token, if I keep doing that, are the people who are responsible for it ever going to learn how to do their job and keep a watchful eye on these things or will they defer to me?

I learned that I should just stop looking, keep my purview to that which I am responsible for, and quit peeking at other things, or just outright "playing dumb" if I do see something. my scruples don't like that, but when you consider the hell I got put through for two years having loads of work thrown on me simply because I find and spot things easily, I can't handle that any more.

it has on the other hand lead to a lot of one-time bonuses and huge raises, so it's not like they haven't compensated/recognized me, but it becomes where the moment you take the reins on one or two things, suddenly people just think you're always going to do it and stop doing their own jobs. today, I got told to leave the help chat as a result (they told me I was babying people too much and the people who are taking over the ship Monday wanted to just do it themselves and give me a break, which was nice).

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Friday, 8 January 2016 17:40 (eight years ago) link

I just don't get the mentality though because if someone brings me a problem that they spotted and I know they aren't the person to fix it, I take it out of their hands and let them go on their merry way.

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Friday, 8 January 2016 17:41 (eight years ago) link

I've gotten to the point now where I don't even bother pointing out any of the (numerous) technical issues that I encounter within the proprietary (read: cobbled together by people who know just enough to trick technically-challenged people into thinking they're competent) software that our company uses for everything. Because if you report it to management, they expect you to be the point person who constantly follows up with helpdesk and the developers. And if you report it to helpdesk directly, you may as well have written it out and flushed it down the toilet. They just resolved the last issue I'll ever send (wherein single-quote characters were being replaced with the corresponding escape character...I'm fairly certain I understood the problem and the potential solution better than they did) after nine months of doing nothing outside of attempting on numerous occasions to close my ticket.

Beef Wets (Old Lunch), Friday, 8 January 2016 18:00 (eight years ago) link

I hate that too, when you know the answer but you have no ability to see for certain, they ignore your suggestion, go about it differently, and then in the end you find out you were right and their refusal to take your guidance (which they shouldn't ahve needed anyway) led to an unnecessary delay

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Friday, 8 January 2016 18:06 (eight years ago) link

the other thing I hate is that our seasonal employees are typically garbage - often many of them only care about lasting through the end of their seasonal period, have questionable skills, mouth off, etc. and because they're outside contractors, *we* have to go through their employer to discipline them.

there are plenty of good ones, but the bad ones are so bad that it just causes a lot of noise. in prior years, leadership kind of understood "you get what you pay for", but this year, they've started making noise on the quality of the representatives, but it's like...I can generally tell 2 hours into a training session if someone is a lost cause, because they aren't paying attention, they're asleep ,they're on their phone, etc. and yet I get told I can't take them off of our project because you simultaneously demand we cut our staffing by 6% and start whining if we don't have enough people on the phones.

it gets to where I say "you're going to shit on me for the quality issues the resources have, yet you're giving me people that should never have been let into the building, who are being given shoddy equipment to take calls on, and are treated like cattle....and we're given an abbreviated timeframe to train them, but I'm supposed to achieve perfection with that?". Even after all of the extra refresher sessions I scheduled, the extra attention given , they're still lousy and I've just given up and am moving onto the next project knowing I did the best I could rather than taking it personally.

also the people they gave me to train in december were supposed to be the "high performers", the people that got retained due to doing well in Oct/Nov, and yet at least 5 of them have been terminated for poor performance since then and another 4 are on the chopping block next. THESE are the best people?

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Friday, 8 January 2016 18:11 (eight years ago) link

logged 200+ hours of training from Oct-Dec btw. facilitating. often alone. that's a lot.

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Friday, 8 January 2016 18:12 (eight years ago) link

When I was temping, I was regularly baffled by the praise I was given by employers for demonstrating what seemed to me base-level competence. But after a while of being exposed to other temps, I kinda got it (one assignment ultimately involved doing my own work and then correcting fully half of the work that the other temp had fucked up). In part, I think you can blame staffing agencies for paying more attention to their $$$ earned per head than to ensuring that their staff actually has the competencies they claim to have.

Beef Wets (Old Lunch), Friday, 8 January 2016 18:24 (eight years ago) link

logged 200+ hours of training from Oct-Dec btw. facilitating. often alone. that's a lot.

logged 50+ posts of complaining from oct-dec btw. whinging. often at great length. that's a lot

mookieproof, Friday, 8 January 2016 19:26 (eight years ago) link

i got the same thing when i used to temp. sometimes i occasionally become the lord of the temps, simply by being the least lazy/dull. i wouldn't get paid anything extra because i was still a temp – but I was expected to heard all these underpaid/dipshit cats on top of the regular work i was supposed to be doing.

Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 8 January 2016 21:04 (eight years ago) link

so it's basically like IDiocracy then

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Friday, 8 January 2016 21:25 (eight years ago) link

my boss asked me to schedule a meeting for 1pm. at 11am, she asked me to reschedule for noon. at 11:30am, she asked me to reschedule back to 1pm. she showed up 25 minutes late to her own meeting while we all just sat there. this happens basically every single time i have a meeting with her.

is this anywhere near normal? it seems bizarre and rude as fuck to me but i guess i should be used to it

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 12 January 2016 19:01 (eight years ago) link

Wait... she asked you to reschedule her own meeting?? twice??? what was she doing at the time? it's something that takes about 15 seconds in outlook, for fuck's sake.

not to mention how incredibly inconsiderate of everyone else's time.

yeah that's horseshit. for one, if there's an emergency meeting you have to call in less than two hours, you need to make sure to cascade it broadly (ie walk-by) so everybody knows since one could easily just get lost in work for a few hours and not see it. and you never adjust it backwards. and then if you're going to be late, this needs to be communicated beforehand.

former head of my dept used to do this, yet if you did the same thing, it was 'instant feedback' for you.

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Tuesday, 12 January 2016 20:27 (eight years ago) link

i never quite got the 'having other people schedule your meetings in Outlook' thing unless you were like such a high level executive that you had too many meetings to keep track of.

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Tuesday, 12 January 2016 20:27 (eight years ago) link

she does this all the time, and although she's my boss' boss, she's still several hundred layers down in the overall hierarchy

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 12 January 2016 21:34 (eight years ago) link

All of the lawyers I work with ask others to schedule things in Outlook. Sometimes partners ask junior attorneys to do it, and juniors in turn pass on the task to support staff. It's a contest to get as far away from Outlook as possible.

Je55e, Wednesday, 13 January 2016 16:03 (eight years ago) link

i lost the plot at my boss yesterday.

[ridiculously long and boring post redacted]

after 35 years of owning this business, she still has no basic system for managing inventory, and every time i come up with one, she decides it's not working after a few months, but this time it was a couple of weeks. so i basically yelled at her that she should have this shit figured out by now.

just1n3, Wednesday, 13 January 2016 18:14 (eight years ago) link

so – are you posting this from work, or...

Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 13 January 2016 19:51 (eight years ago) link

nope i decided to take the day off! she won't fire me - she can't. there is no one else who would do all the shit i do for such little pay. also it's not the first time (nor the last) that we've lost our shit at each other.

just1n3, Wednesday, 13 January 2016 21:28 (eight years ago) link

Long term and entrenched member of another team has a history of being disrespectful & unprofessional to coworkers blew up for the nth time yesterday at one of us. she went to hr because historically these incidents were brought to his supervisor who is great at doubletalk and could always assure you that "things will be different now". last i heard, several svps were going to CEO to discuss this, and the lady that went to hr has refused to work with the jerk any longer. i see it 50/50 at this pt whether anything concrete comes out of this or we end up w status quo. never worked with a more needlessly abusive dude than this one, so i sincerely hope they boot his ass. literally could poll anyone on my floor and they'd either have an unpleasant story, first hand or witnessed, of this dude blowing up at someone for a minor disagreement

art, Wednesday, 13 January 2016 21:35 (eight years ago) link

Whoops strike either from last sentence. Anger gums up the works

art, Wednesday, 13 January 2016 21:37 (eight years ago) link

lots of intelligent people here doing all sorts of complex things.

but none of them have figured out yet that if you fill the sink with dirty crockery then it stops being usable as a sink. twice today i've cleared bowls and mugs out of it so i can use the taps.

koogs, Thursday, 14 January 2016 16:29 (eight years ago) link

Sounds like they've figured it out.

nickn, Thursday, 14 January 2016 17:29 (eight years ago) link

i see it 50/50 at this pt whether anything concrete comes out of this or we end up w status quo. never worked with a more needlessly abusive dude than this one, so i sincerely hope they boot his ass.

question – have you considered going to hr yourself, or maybe with a few others to back-up the offended coworker? if you want to see this guy gone, it might help to put up more of a united front.

Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 14 January 2016 18:25 (eight years ago) link

xxpost Intelligent people are some of the dumbest people I've ever encountered.

Professor Bworlph (Old Lunch), Thursday, 14 January 2016 18:28 (eight years ago) link

i haven't yet been actively involved but my understanding is that this has escalated and some kind of 'investigation' will likely involve me in some way as i was cited as a witness in a letter to hr. i am letting things develop and organizing my thoughts at this time, and anticipate further developments soon.

the front is currently united by people a step above me in the hierarchy, it seems ranks are being actively closed around this guy

xp

art, Thursday, 14 January 2016 18:32 (eight years ago) link

that's not good (if i understand correctly)

Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 14 January 2016 18:40 (eight years ago) link

yeah i should have modified it a little to say the usual ranks are closing but there is a breakaway segment of upper management that it is actively trying to get him terminated. his boss is influential and utterly dependent on him and has handled these events in the past. i suspect the ultimate resolution will be at the ceos discretion and i don't know how he will decide. this guy has been here a decade and has a lot of special knowledge that some might think protects him. my fear is that the ceo buys the argument that he's required personnel

art, Thursday, 14 January 2016 18:59 (eight years ago) link

thoughts still all over the place, been a stressful week with this amplifying things. dude is the reason ive never seen myself staying at this company long term because he's just such a bully and a miserable human most of the time

art, Thursday, 14 January 2016 19:05 (eight years ago) link

koogs same here except in our kitchen the cups in the sink are right below a big sign that says 'please put all dirty crockery in the dishwasher'

kinder, Thursday, 14 January 2016 19:07 (eight years ago) link

we have one of those too. but you're never sure whether the dishwasher is a) full of dirty stuff waiting for cleaner to start it, b) full of clean stuff waiting for the cleaner to put it away or c) running. we need a system (something as simple as just leave it on the side) but that's not going to happen.

people stirring coffee with a knife...

koogs, Thursday, 14 January 2016 19:17 (eight years ago) link

we have a note system. works 50% of the time. which means you never have any idea.

Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 14 January 2016 19:28 (eight years ago) link

Yesterday, my boss's boss give me and my boss a lift back home - I live round the corner from my boss^2, and my boss was driving back to his home, a couple of hours away. It was a little early (about 3.45?) but I figured that I'd ask for a lift with them both. It was probably a bit cheeky, but since its a cheek that was being shared by two levels of boss above me, I didn't think it would be too much of a drain on company resources. Howevere, I get in the car and my boss immidietly starts going on about how I'm leaving early, but doing it in that "i'm only joking but I notice you and i'm not really joking" kinda way. I guess he's just trying to look the big man in front of his boss, but its made me feel like a terrible piece of shit. He's not in the office today and I'm weighing up whether to call him out on his grandstanding or whether to wait till he's next in the office on Tuesday.

barbarian radge (NotEnough), Friday, 15 January 2016 09:32 (eight years ago) link

Like, I know I'm in the wrong and maybe he did need to have a word and tell me not to sneak out early with him, but even so, he didn't have to do me like that.

barbarian radge (NotEnough), Friday, 15 January 2016 09:34 (eight years ago) link

A couple people have gone on a kick of forwarding stuff about Donald Trump including this http://www.newyorker.com/humor/daily-shouts/lil-donald with the comment And this clown could be president????!!!!

Je55e, Friday, 15 January 2016 18:10 (eight years ago) link

How do you train someone who doesn't take in written or verbal instructions at all, who blindly dives into tasks with half measures & doesn't ask questions until after everything is a total mess?

He always looks as though he will fall asleep if you tell him something for too long.

He only half-reads any information he is given. Or refers to it afterwards when he then reads what he should have done. And does not retain it the next time.

If he does the same task 7 times, he will do it slightly different every time, repetition does not seem to help.

He assists me with an account - he can sort of handle one pretty basic task, and he wants to do more. I would love him to do more and am happy to help him grow. But the extra that I have given him has so far ended up a total mess. I am at my wits end trying to teach him in a way that sinks in, and I just don't know what other angles to pursue.

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 16 January 2016 01:28 (eight years ago) link

I worked with someone just like that: half-reading/listening, reading too late, no retention, does things differently every time. We tried him on every possible task but had to remove each one from him in the end. When we ran out of tasks and he was doing just one thing, he finally got bored and left.

Because he was a volunteer and not an employee, the person managing him refused to countenance a conversation with him where any of this was raised properly. Is there any way of addressing some of these things directly with this guy? I'm hilariously reliant on the book 'Difficult Conversations' for that kind of stuff.

ljubljana, Saturday, 16 January 2016 01:47 (eight years ago) link

Why did you marry him, then?

(joke: I suspect this is how my wife feels about me much of the time)

xpost

James Morrison, Saturday, 16 January 2016 06:49 (eight years ago) link

lol

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 16 January 2016 07:37 (eight years ago) link

He came up to me today & said over & over "I'm not stupid I just (blank)" etc

I think I am going to try a policy of "YOU MUST ASK ME QUESTIONS BEFORE YOU DO THESE NEW THINGS UNTIL YOU GET IT" - no excuses.

like i beat a path back & forth to my old manager's office for months, almost a year, learning this account. I dont care if he *thinks* he *kinda* gets it, that dog dont goddamn hunt. In this new Vegistan regime he better lower his self-esteem down to a dull simmer or he wont learn a damn thing & will drive me to the nuthouse in the process

or i'll just die quietly

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 16 January 2016 07:43 (eight years ago) link

Sounds like ADHD to me, particularly when you mentioned he can't "do" repetition and looks like he'll fall asleep if you tell him something for too long. I have some experience here so maybe I can help.

1. What is the physical environment like where his desk/workstation is? Is there a lot of stimulus/sound/people walking by?
2. Is this the kind of gig where one could wear headphones?
3. What type of work is it? It sounds like Excel based on your description. How "important" is this task?
4. Do you have a sense of what this person's hobbies are? Much like people on the autism spectrum, hobbies and interests can be a clue to understanding the individual's coping strategies.
5. What percentage of this person's work day would be dedicated to meetings, check-ins, or impromptu interactions?

fields of salmon, Wednesday, 20 January 2016 12:00 (eight years ago) link

late to this party but

you're never sure whether the dishwasher is a) full of dirty stuff waiting for cleaner to start it, b) full of clean stuff waiting for the cleaner to put it away or c) running. we need a system (something as simple as just leave it on the side) but that's not going to happen

ppl should leave dirty stuff on the drainer next to the sink and it should be the cleaner's job to put it in the dishwasher. problem solved?

schlep and back trio (anagram), Wednesday, 20 January 2016 13:20 (eight years ago) link

How do you train someone who doesn't take in written or verbal instructions at all, who blindly dives into tasks with half measures & doesn't ask questions until after everything is a total mess?

He always looks as though he will fall asleep if you tell him something for too long.

He only half-reads any information he is given. Or refers to it afterwards when he then reads what he should have done. And does not retain it the next time.

All of these things could describe my bf, who I'm certain has a reading disability of some sort and is also ADD. Yeah you're gonna need a different learning strategy for him, and since the systems in place aren't going to work for you or him, helping him grow might involve a deeper look into learning styles, what does he do well and how did he learn it originally, etc?

If authoritarianism is Romania's ironing board, then (in orbit), Wednesday, 20 January 2016 13:25 (eight years ago) link

ppl should leave dirty stuff on the drainer next to the sink and it should be the cleaner's job to put it in the dishwasher. problem solved?

Not if you have more than three ppl in your office, or anyone wants to wash their containers and take them home before someone else nicks them, or you don't want to attract cockroaches.

glandular lansbury (sic), Wednesday, 20 January 2016 14:03 (eight years ago) link

We have about 200 people in our office. The cleaners are around all day and put the dishwasher on three or four times a day.

schlep and back trio (anagram), Wednesday, 20 January 2016 14:12 (eight years ago) link

must be nice

glandular lansbury (sic), Wednesday, 20 January 2016 15:00 (eight years ago) link

Give him.a checklist vg. Ppl with short attn spans like to tick shit off. I've got a short attn span I need that sweet endorphin at every step of I start to get creatively distracted

Saoirse birther (darraghmac), Wednesday, 20 January 2016 22:11 (eight years ago) link

yeah in my first few confused office years I made myself a few little printable checklists and clipped them to everything I had on the go to keep myself going, A+

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Wednesday, 20 January 2016 22:17 (eight years ago) link

i made him a brief, simple bold-font checklist :)
told him a white lie that I had made it for myself back when I was starting on the account, it seems to have helped.

thanks for the ADD tips, guys

He's been a traditional salesrep for 20 years, his main strength is on sales calls, conversations where he sets the tone & builds relationships with customers, bcz he's very friendly & bubbly

This account is handled almost entirely via email requests, and it's a very different kind of account than any that he's ever handled - everything is ordered via EDI, and there's quite a bit of technical minutiae involved in supporting the account. It's very simple *to me* but I think from his end, especially with ADD in the mix, it's a very steep learning curve

I definitely will work on my own communication methods now that I see things a bit more clearly

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 21 January 2016 03:41 (eight years ago) link

sales guys are an odd breed. I sat next to one in a prev job whose mind was blown when I clued him in that Windows has a built in calendar. :/

Interesting. No, wait, the other thing: tedious. (Trayce), Thursday, 21 January 2016 08:01 (eight years ago) link

also lol @ cleaners filling/emptying dishwashers. luxury! ours don't even dust the desks. empty bins, vacuum, that's it. I spose they'd charge more to do more.

Interesting. No, wait, the other thing: tedious. (Trayce), Thursday, 21 January 2016 08:02 (eight years ago) link

do not start me on salespeople

90% of the in my office are oldschool
phone salesppl. they are skilled at a) loudtalking and b) making smalltalk with strangers and c) bullshitting ...and that's it.

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 21 January 2016 18:42 (eight years ago) link

VG OTMFM x1000000000000000

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 21 January 2016 18:50 (eight years ago) link

oh and d) COMPLAINING

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 21 January 2016 19:13 (eight years ago) link

tbf you're no slouch yourself

mookieproof, Thursday, 21 January 2016 19:42 (eight years ago) link

and e) refusing to take "no" for an answer when production/design/creative/whatever says "can't be done, you shouldn't have promised that."
xp

WilliamC, Thursday, 21 January 2016 19:42 (eight years ago) link

for the third time in a month, i've been asked to be the fall guy for my boss. all of them are variations on the boss forgetting to ask people to do things, then asking me to be the one sending the email demanding that things be due with not nearly enough time for the staff to turn it around. then they all reply to me with their complaints. which i totally get! i'd be pissed too!

btw ILX i'm going to need all of you to prepare a presentation with detailed speaking notes by tomorrow morning. also, the presentation will be in NYC. i assume that's ok with all of you but you'll need to make travel arrangements if you haven't already. THANKS,

ZACH

Karl Malone, Thursday, 21 January 2016 20:30 (eight years ago) link

i'm sure there's a decent portion of this office who don't even know who i am but completely hate my guts, based purely off of these emails

Karl Malone, Thursday, 21 January 2016 20:31 (eight years ago) link

plus side: when i quit in a few months, no one will wonder why

Karl Malone, Thursday, 21 January 2016 20:32 (eight years ago) link

xxpost watch it mookie >:(

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 21 January 2016 21:56 (eight years ago) link

we have a nespresso machine at work, the capsules are supplied seemingly at random. (there are (almost) always capsules there but the flavours are random)

someone in there today - 'oh they have (some flavour) again', uses one, sticks two in his pocket.

another colleague always uses the decaf capsules but two at a time.

(i use said machine about twice a year just to remind myself how much i don't like the coffee it produces)

koogs, Friday, 29 January 2016 10:21 (eight years ago) link

There's been a long-running joke that my current line manager often falls asleep at his desk after lunch.

So I've been working 12 hour days all this week because he's been off sick for ten days. He has insomnia.

sktsh, Friday, 29 January 2016 11:38 (eight years ago) link

if you ever brag in the office about your exercise routine you should no longer get to duck out of any physical lifting/shoving tasks without a good excuse imo

people with bad backs and dodgy knees and who knows what else lugging stuff all over the place while our office's resident gymrat is pretending not to notice

a passing spacecadet, Friday, 29 January 2016 13:15 (eight years ago) link

people here go to the gym and then take the lift one floor...

koogs, Friday, 29 January 2016 13:28 (eight years ago) link

If the past week has taught me anything, it's that 4000 redundancies, the suspension of all bonus payments and an internal social network are not a good mix.

Though my sympathy is obvs with the former, it's difficult to know whether the people openly trashing management / other departments or the ones cheerleading for the "difficult decisions" have the least common sense. You are left with the impression that half the company is determined to make themselves unemployed and the other half would respond to all the CEO's updates with "fuck me, daddy" if it wasn't for the profanity filter.

On a Raqqa tip (ShariVari), Friday, 29 January 2016 14:04 (eight years ago) link

yikes :(

conditional random jepsen (seandalai), Friday, 29 January 2016 14:54 (eight years ago) link

yes, yikes! hope things work out ok for you ShariVari

a passing spacecadet, Friday, 29 January 2016 17:31 (eight years ago) link

ty!

Other than having my bonus cruelly snatched away at the 11th hour, i'm unaffected this time around.

I hope that any other Ilxors rolling in the same clown car (iirc there's at least one) are similarly ok.

On a Raqqa tip (ShariVari), Friday, 29 January 2016 21:12 (eight years ago) link

you may mean me - i'm good thanks, doesn't seem like there's too much to worry about here atm.

kinder, Friday, 29 January 2016 21:35 (eight years ago) link

Guy next to me has been asleep for most of the last 15 minutes, he even started snoring. As hes a helpdesk phone person I'm half wondering if he put his phone on no calls and hoped no one'd notice. Yeesh.

Interesting. No, wait, the other thing: tedious. (Trayce), Tuesday, 9 February 2016 02:56 (eight years ago) link

I mean dude, go to the loo if you really want a nap.

Interesting. No, wait, the other thing: tedious. (Trayce), Tuesday, 9 February 2016 02:56 (eight years ago) link

time to dack him, Trayce

like Uber, but for underpants (James Morrison), Tuesday, 9 February 2016 06:29 (eight years ago) link

He was sitting down, but I should have dropped a pencil down his pants Homer style. TBF this guy is a friend outside of work so I wouldnt've. TBH Im a bit worried about him.

Interesting. No, wait, the other thing: tedious. (Trayce), Tuesday, 9 February 2016 08:51 (eight years ago) link

scheduling a colonoscopy from your cubicle: c/d?

how's life, Monday, 22 February 2016 18:11 (eight years ago) link

Depends if you're scheduling it for yourself or for an annoying coworker

like Uber, but for underpants (James Morrison), Monday, 22 February 2016 21:58 (eight years ago) link

Ha, that sorrrrt of happened to me a while ago, as in the hospital rang me at work unexpectedly and asked me all these horrible questions that I just couldnt answer aloud, cos who wants to hear me say that shit. err... no pun intended.

Interesting. No, wait, the other thing: tedious. (Trayce), Monday, 22 February 2016 23:20 (eight years ago) link

someone who works at one of the stores sent me the stupidest most bogus corporate-speak ("communiques", "closing the conversation loop", "our shared goal of successful business in a professional setting" LADY U DON'T WORK YR HIGH-FLATUIN EXEC POSISH ANYMORE YR JUST A SALES CLERK FOR A LAME CLOTHING COMPANY THAT SELLS A LOT OF UGLY SHIT) text message , doing a poor job of subtly patronizing me, and i totally wigged out and sent her a scolding msg back, basically telling her to cut this shit out.

no reply so far. pretty sure she's gone tattling to my boss, bc she's already narced on me to the general manager (who's on my side).

just1n3, Wednesday, 24 February 2016 06:12 (eight years ago) link

anyone who uses "closing the conversation loop" in a text message needs their mobile phone privileges revoked.

police patrol felt the smell of smoke and found that goat burns (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 24 February 2016 13:39 (eight years ago) link

"Hi Xxxxx,
Let me circle back with the client manager once more and get back to you.
Thanks!"

can't decide whether this, which arrived this morning, is a 360, a 540 or a 720.

koogs, Wednesday, 24 February 2016 13:43 (eight years ago) link

I always want to tell people who pull that shit "can we speak in english instead of suit? Thanks kindly"

Interesting. No, wait, the other thing: tedious. (Trayce), Wednesday, 24 February 2016 23:39 (eight years ago) link

xp OMG i forgot to add - she signed an earlier, corporate-speak, bullshit text addressed to me/boss/manager, with "thank you and sincerely - [her full first name, not the shortened version she ALWAYS goes by]"

i really wanted to text back 'who tf signs their texts?? and especially like THAT??" but that was back when i was trying not to be the asshole.

just1n3, Thursday, 25 February 2016 01:52 (eight years ago) link

Team leader was asking one of the accounts ladies to send him a copy of the link she was having probs with.

"how do I do that?", says the woman who works in a fucking IT company.

Interesting. No, wait, the other thing: tedious. (Trayce), Friday, 26 February 2016 04:26 (eight years ago) link

Advertiser's previous ads have had solid black backgrounds by their request.
My contact, Low Level Functionary, says "let's do something updated and modern this issue."
I produce something sleek and slightly futuristic.
LLF: No, let's go with something rural: meadow, barn
I change it all to meadow, barn. Now it looks like technicolor vomit because the background is too busy and the foreground is three quarts of info pushed into a one quart container.
LLF: change this, change that (repeat repeat)
After 7 rounds of proofs she finally shows it to her general manager.
GM: Make the background black.

Mars Capone (WilliamC), Friday, 26 February 2016 14:10 (eight years ago) link

Haha.

We've got a pub that's had a wall on each cover because no one wanted to give precedence to either a rural or urban scene over the other.

pplains, Friday, 26 February 2016 15:15 (eight years ago) link

I think the last issue was actually an out-of-focus tree.

pplains, Friday, 26 February 2016 15:16 (eight years ago) link

My boss insisted our magazine be printed on glossy paper instead of the lovely matt stuff i'd spent hours choosing because "it looks more professional". Now it looks and feels like an Officeworks catalogue

like Uber, but for underpants (James Morrison), Saturday, 27 February 2016 03:20 (eight years ago) link

Further off-topic, I had a program director back in the radio days make our engineer add a slight echo to our broadcasts, where everyone sounded like the mayor dedicating a new water park.

pplains, Saturday, 27 February 2016 03:27 (eight years ago) link

i'm sorry, that's awesome

mookieproof, Saturday, 27 February 2016 03:55 (eight years ago) link

It took some getting to used to.

pplains, Saturday, 27 February 2016 04:00 (eight years ago) link

Hearing PP's post in a booming echo.

Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 27 February 2016 05:30 (eight years ago) link

manager always wants to add exclamation points to the sell-sheets i put together for him

it's like working with a carnival barker

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 27 February 2016 06:57 (eight years ago) link

manager: mock something up for the design team

me: ok cool *provides rough mockup*

oh hey look they had to print what i did because he gave the group zero time to redesign anything

me: please dont tell people I am responsible that

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 27 February 2016 07:01 (eight years ago) link

Now I have an advertiser forwarding me a 72 dpi proof that her designer had sent her and saying "ok, here's my press-ready ad," and I'm like mmmmmmnope.

WilliamC, Saturday, 27 February 2016 13:58 (eight years ago) link

leading training for new hires last week and it was great but the materials/demo tools we are given were created in 2006 and haven't been updated well. the demo tool has one key 401k plan provision that has been illegal since 2006 as part of the Pension Protection Act.

they literally have a list they've compiled for three years of things wrong with the materials and are all like "yeah we're getting to it".

you are no man. take the balls. (Neanderthal), Saturday, 27 February 2016 14:02 (eight years ago) link

I get people who not only send 72 dpi photos they've downloaded FROM FACEBOOK for print publication, but downloaded the THUMBNAIL from the album they were browsing to select it.

(Rarely, once a year or so.)

pplains, Saturday, 27 February 2016 16:16 (eight years ago) link

Oh yes, that is a thing for sure.

WilliamC, Saturday, 27 February 2016 16:26 (eight years ago) link

I can understand not knowing what dpi is or even that the size of an image in print must be much larger than the photos you see online.

But not getting that a larger image that "fills up the whole screen" would be better than the the preview image to send, I don't get that one.

And they're downloaded, "Saved As"! It would almost make sense if we were getting screenshot.png's.

pplains, Saturday, 27 February 2016 16:49 (eight years ago) link

the *director of quality assurance* parks his motorcycle in diagonal lined space between handicapped spots.

also have come to realize that coworker (whom i usually get along with!) is an irl trump-voting anime avatar.

circles, Saturday, 27 February 2016 17:52 (eight years ago) link

We used to get cover images for LPs from labels that were actually the HTML source code of the relevant Amazon pop-up window.

koogs, Saturday, 27 February 2016 18:41 (eight years ago) link

I hope you included the yellow 15% OFF arrow with it.

There have been plenty of times that I'll get a 75x150 mug, too little even for our website, but through a reverse image search and an open directory on their own company website, have found a reasonable 3200x4800 version of the same image.

Almost makes me miss the days of those corporate sites squeezing in those huge images into distorted thumbnail slots.

pplains, Saturday, 27 February 2016 19:19 (eight years ago) link

yeah I got blank looks from a coworker who asked me to photoshop a 72dpi iphone photo of her dad that she wanted blown up into a large poster

you're the one who took the crappy photo, don't blame me if you think your dad isn't worth 300 dpi

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 27 February 2016 23:47 (eight years ago) link

i handle the staff biography web pages for an organization with which we have a contract, and they are *very intense* about their bios

once every month or two i have to rearrange the order, putting someone higher on the list than before

a couple weeks ago i was asked to put , Esquire after the names of two people in the legal department and i was like are you serious because that is embarrassing, at which point i was told 'nevermind'

last week i had to add that some fucking guy had graduated 'with honors'

mookieproof, Sunday, 28 February 2016 01:10 (eight years ago) link

Ego tripping.

Does esquire have a legal meaning about owning land anyway?

Stevolende, Sunday, 28 February 2016 09:59 (eight years ago) link

In the legal profession

In the U.S., the title Esquire is commonly encountered among members of the legal profession.[7] The term is used for both male and female lawyers.[38]

The title Esquire is not allocated by the law of any state to any profession, class, or station in society. Because it is commonly employed by lawyers, however, use by an unlicensed person may be evidence of the unauthorized practice of law.[39]

conrad, Sunday, 28 February 2016 10:34 (eight years ago) link

hey thanks for handing me this helpdesk ticket at 7pm (after we both left the office) on the day before I have the day off as you well know (and you do not)

I know this because the helpdesk system emailed me to say I'd been given it and for some reason I decided to check my work email from home, but I can't look at the actual ticket without faffing about with VPNs and remote desktop, so... not gonna happen

a passing spacecadet, Thursday, 3 March 2016 22:37 (eight years ago) link

Ah cisco anyconnect, how i hate thee.

Interesting. No, wait, the other thing: tedious. (Trayce), Thursday, 3 March 2016 22:50 (eight years ago) link

lol yes, my standard line to our laptop users is that we can't remote desktop to their computers when they're connected over VPN.

bored at work (snoball), Thursday, 3 March 2016 22:51 (eight years ago) link

Also, try explaining to people that AnyConnect is the grey circular icon, when it's in a system tray full of grey circular icons...

bored at work (snoball), Thursday, 3 March 2016 22:52 (eight years ago) link

LOL it looks almost identical to Steam and the Asus update thing on my PC. I never thought about that (thank fuck I dont do L1 support anymore)

Interesting. No, wait, the other thing: tedious. (Trayce), Thursday, 3 March 2016 23:01 (eight years ago) link

I've been entirely second line for a few years now, but where I'm working at the moment our team still has to deal with the calls that the first line people can't manage. Which is a lot, because a) we're cheap so we hire inexperienced people, and b) we promote the decent helpdesk operators to other teams because people are leaving all the time.
Chip facing up, short end goes in the card reader first.

bored at work (snoball), Thursday, 3 March 2016 23:14 (eight years ago) link

xp I was very confused when I installed a newer AnyConnect and the icon became an indistinct round blob (tbh I am still routinely v confused by this)

also several of my icons at work are a very similar combo of grey, light green, light blue, I still have to stop and think before I click on anything

http://img.informer.com/icons/png/32/5116/5116606.pnghttp://static.filehorse.com/icons/file-transfer-and-networking/winscp-icon-32.png (plus others I don't remember)

btw I am 93% sure that whatever comes in on that ticket tomorrow could be dealt with by someone other than me, and even if it can't it would make more sense for someone who's in the office to own it and say "hi, we're not going to do anything on this today" and then hand it to me for Monday

a passing spacecadet, Thursday, 3 March 2016 23:18 (eight years ago) link

I have the next three days off, and also many annoying co-workers, but fortunately for me only one of them would try passing a ticket into my queue when I'm not around. Co-incidentally this person is not a manager, but has been recently given a tiny amount of responsibility over other people in the team (for no extra money!), and has turned into Hitler.

bored at work (snoball), Thursday, 3 March 2016 23:28 (eight years ago) link

I mean if Hitler had been hugely pass-agg.

bored at work (snoball), Thursday, 3 March 2016 23:29 (eight years ago) link

there's this one dude supervising our training program this week who talks to everybody like it's their first day on the job in a voice that sounds like equal parts Casey Kasem and Mr Rogers

Neanderthal, Thursday, 3 March 2016 23:49 (eight years ago) link

squealing and saying "oh noooo" all day like a Manic Pixie Dream Girl is really not a good sound in your mid 50s.

we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Friday, 4 March 2016 01:05 (eight years ago) link

well, stop doing it then

like Uber, but for underpants (James Morrison), Friday, 4 March 2016 01:33 (eight years ago) link

book me to train week of 3/14, have internal discussions needing it a week earlier, assume I can do it without asking me and send me the invite (giving me one less day to prep cos I had two PTO days this week).

tell me it's 20 people, give me class of 42. find a mistake in the materials, tell me to go ahead and teach the mistake instead of fixing it because it's a "good teachable moment".

swear it's Idiocracy in my place

Neanderthal, Saturday, 5 March 2016 00:58 (eight years ago) link

one of my bestest friends at work does this 1 thing that drives me crazy

he leaves at 4:30, but 9 times out of 10 when I bounce at 5 he's still in the office talking to our boss or the other manager

like, DUDE. you've worked with these people for 20 years, they are neeeevvvver going to promote you, just go home ffs

i want to shake him. quit acting like their pet dog! but he's kind of oldschool sales guy with a heart of gold so i figure it's his journey

but jeez.

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 5 March 2016 04:03 (eight years ago) link

two weeks pass...

corporate america is the worst and i feel like such a fucking idiot rube for not realizing that:

1. people will lie to your face if they have anything to gain (or even anything to not lose) in so doing,
2. no one is your ally,
3. close working relationships may seem reciprocal but they're one-sided as soon as one party stands to gain from throwing another under the bus,
4. the only trust between parties in this environment is the trust built around mutually assured destruction.

mercifully i am moving on from this randian shitshow in a few months when i relocate with my partner for her phd. i now realize i must approach every subsequent step in my career as if i'm entering thunderdome.

art, Friday, 25 March 2016 22:27 (eight years ago) link

poisoning co-workers has its benefits

Neanderthal, Friday, 25 March 2016 22:28 (eight years ago) link

entire office smells like baby powder

mookieproof, Friday, 1 April 2016 13:53 (eight years ago) link

you knew what you were getting into when you took a job with johnson & johnson tbf

Upset by racist left wingers calling me an egg (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 1 April 2016 14:26 (eight years ago) link

ya j&j, accenture, etc, are peak corpo amerika

it's pretty intense

F♯ A♯ (∞), Friday, 1 April 2016 17:33 (eight years ago) link

how many babies does it take to make an oz of baby powder? the answer may surprise you...

art, Friday, 1 April 2016 17:45 (eight years ago) link

a foot

F♯ A♯ (∞), Friday, 1 April 2016 17:58 (eight years ago) link

listening to a coworker poll the room right now on who is feeling stressed out... because you see, she is so very sensitive to the vibes around her, that she is getting really anxious right now and has deduced that she is picking up on someone else's heightened heart rate.

Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 1 April 2016 18:21 (eight years ago) link

i use my cell phone for work (no landline) and I guess due to the bad reception in my house due to the trees/etc, if I don't sit in the exact correct position, inevitably my call drops or I become inaudible at some point.

It only happens once or twice a day, but it aggravates me - but then I remember I work at home and all is better.

Neanderthal, Friday, 1 April 2016 18:49 (eight years ago) link

This department that I've been in the exasperating position of having to email a lot to basically say "hey, you guys did your job incompletely, appreciate it if you could un-half-ass your work so I can get my own work done" has at least been pretty good about actually complying when you poke them awake. And then a couple of months ago, they arbitrarily decided to start pushing back and insisting that every request sent to them requires approval from my manager before they can complete it. Except, again, these are requests to fix or complete work that they did incorrectly or incompletely, requests for which managerial approval is implied given that the initial requests would've never made it to their department in the first place without approval from my manager. I had an exhausting back and forth with their manager, finally pulling my own manager in to affirm that this other department should complete X, Y, and Z every time she sends a request through. I made a point of saying in my final email to the other department manager that she needs to disseminate this info to her whole team.

I sent a request to fix something today and it was instantly forwarded to my manager for approval. It never. Fucking. Ends.

I am very inteligent and dicipline boy (Old Lunch), Friday, 1 April 2016 19:06 (eight years ago) link

A co-worker regularly says "verbage" instead of "verbiage," and now multiple other co-workers are doing it, too. I feel like I finally understand that William Burroughs line about language being a virus.

the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Tuesday, 5 April 2016 17:55 (eight years ago) link

Unfortunately, "verbage" has been acceptable usage in the printing biz going back almost 20 years, ime.

Honor thy pisstake as a hidden intention. (WilliamC), Tuesday, 5 April 2016 17:59 (eight years ago) link

yeah, I hear that one all the time

Check Yr Scrobbles (Moodles), Tuesday, 5 April 2016 20:19 (eight years ago) link

"without further adieu"

argh!

Don't opine. Dead inside. (onimo), Monday, 11 April 2016 20:12 (eight years ago) link

What an embarrassing fo pah.

a very hansom, and smart boy (Old Lunch), Monday, 11 April 2016 20:13 (eight years ago) link

otoh, perhaps this co-worker knows all the words to 'Hand Jive', so they have not entirely wasted their life

a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Monday, 11 April 2016 20:24 (eight years ago) link

Before I was bourn late one knight
My papa said everything's all write

Neanderthal, Monday, 11 April 2016 20:57 (eight years ago) link

dunno if this is just a civil service or a politics thing but one thing which drives me bananas is people who "escalate" every fucking email you send them, and seek to roll deep at every opportunity.

like you are having a conversation about a piece of work and you email them and they reply with nine mystery people cc'ed in. or halfway through an email conversation they suddenly add a person in. they never say "oh i'm cc'ing john tediousman in here, he can help us with xyz" or whatever, as would be normal, just this creepy moment like that piratey guy in lost revealing his hundred jungle cohorts by having them light their torches.

the same people will arrive at a one to one informal meeting with like four other people and try and bully you into agreement.

it looks so poor to me, like as well as being rude, it shows a total lack of independence, sensitivity, responsibility, and is just generally wasteful. like "everyone needs to know about everything" is a seriously fucked organisational or team culture.

japanese mage (LocalGarda), Friday, 15 April 2016 14:43 (eight years ago) link

that is definitely a cya thing in Corp America too, or sometimes it is used to gain leverage (i have had to do this before) w unresponsive parties. when i was first at my job and didn't really have a good understanding of what our dept's scope of responsibility was, i got burned trusting someone, who emailed me directly, not to take advantage of my newness/ignorance. After that i often would kick conversations to my boss to arbitrate bc i didn't want to get fucked over again.

down and down we go (art), Friday, 15 April 2016 14:57 (eight years ago) link

Yes to leverage with unresponsive parties. I try to do as much one-on-one as possible, but after like the second time that I have to remind a person of what their job duties entail, I'll rope a manager or two into the convo.

I Pith On Your Quip (Old Lunch), Friday, 15 April 2016 15:22 (eight years ago) link

as a manager, I can say that the obnoxious flip side of this is the person who insists on inviting me to every one of their meetings because they need an adult to supervise. If nothing is actually on fire, learn to manage it yourself before roping me in to your nonsense.

Check Yr Scrobbles (Moodles), Friday, 15 April 2016 18:10 (eight years ago) link

My rule of thumb as an underling was that my manager wanted me to solve as many problems as possible without requiring her involvement. She had enough headaches without that.

a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Friday, 15 April 2016 18:21 (eight years ago) link

tbh I always cc my manager in but it's not because I'm escalating anything, it's so she knows I'm spending time on an issue that she may not have been aware of, in case it impinges on my scheduled work.

Just noise and screaming and no musical value at all. (Colonel Poo), Friday, 15 April 2016 18:23 (eight years ago) link

Aimless, yes, that's exactly what I'd want

CP, if the people I managed CCed me on all their emails, I'd lose my mind.

Check Yr Scrobbles (Moodles), Friday, 15 April 2016 19:11 (eight years ago) link

She only manages 4 people. Plus people are not supposed to email me with work directly anyway, she is supposed to decide what we work on, which I realise is probably not the case for a lot of people.

Just noise and screaming and no musical value at all. (Colonel Poo), Friday, 15 April 2016 19:12 (eight years ago) link

I typically write "+ (name)" if I am adding someone to an email because they are better equipped to answer, sometimes even with an explanation of their role. it's just courtesy, otherwise the other person is left wondering "who the fuck are all THESE people?"

when people CC someone purely as a 'gotcha', fuck that. we had one big project manager guy who freaked out and overreacted about everything, so we'd only CC him if he needed to know it. but there was always someone who felt he needed to be included on menial emails and would CC him us in their responses to us and then he'd interfere and muck things up.

Neanderthal, Saturday, 16 April 2016 05:29 (eight years ago) link

I had a boss who was so paranoid that not cc'ing him on an email to a client was a firing offense.

the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Saturday, 16 April 2016 13:26 (eight years ago) link

fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck that.

I had this one co-worker who was CCed on an email where I was asking for updates and indicating the urgency of needing a response for testing purposes. It wasn't at the "sky is falling" phase and I prefer not to go running for leaders immediately until I need them, so I left our project lead off. She took it upon herself, without asking me first, to forward it to the project manager, who then stuffily said I should have told him and then dismissed the urgency of the issue, telling me my dept's needs weren't as immediately important. (some leader).

then 30 minutes later, on a status call, calls me out in front of the entire team for not CCing him on that email. the same lady tried to do the same thing months later where she complained loudly about something one of my direct reports hadn't done and CCed him.

this time I emailed back and said 'WOULD YOU KNOCK IT THE FUCK OFF' in business-friendly speak.

Neanderthal, Saturday, 16 April 2016 13:42 (eight years ago) link

I don't know if I'm the annoying co-worker, or if everyone else I work with is.

We had our retreat this week. I've got a bad attitude about the retreat, but try hard not to "poison" the two-day activities. We had all taken a personality survey and this highly-paid consulting group affiliated with a non-denominational church show up and explain how our group of lions and otters and beavers and golden retrievers need to get along with each other. Somewhere along the line, upper management said they were seriously thinking about adding an icon of the animal we were labeled next to our desk, so other co-workers would know "who they were dealing with."

So maybe you're wondering what kind of animal I was? Here's a funny thing: me and this one other guy weren't assigned any animal. He had matched 100% in all four categories and I had answered "c" to every question.

Afterward, we were in the lobby and I said the only icon I would accept next to my desk would be a Crucifix, which would show my devotion to JESUS CHRIST, MY LORD AND SAVIOR. My company president appeared at my side about halfway through that sentence.

The next day, he appears at my side again. "That comment you made about the crucifix... was that a comment on the group being from a church? I was concerned about some of what they were saying not being appropriate."

I said, "Nah, maybe what I said was appropriate. My comment was more about how weird it is that someone's going to go around the office and put beaver pictures on people's desks."

He seemed hurt, so maybe I poisoned the proceedings after all.

pplains, Saturday, 16 April 2016 16:04 (eight years ago) link

<3

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 16 April 2016 18:52 (eight years ago) link

honestly I think whatever the good intentions, labeling your staff as some kind of defined personality type based on a sketchy test is a bad idea, and having a non-denominational church behind it woulda felt weird to me too. kinda seems like that's a "know your audience" thing for the President.

Neanderthal, Saturday, 16 April 2016 20:31 (eight years ago) link

that's the type of shit (minus the church) that my old (now defunct) dept did that made me find excuses to skip meetings.

Neanderthal, Saturday, 16 April 2016 20:31 (eight years ago) link

Pplains, your job sounds like purgatory

More like lmbo

never had it so ogod (darraghmac), Sunday, 17 April 2016 10:34 (eight years ago) link

There Is No 'I' In Team Lmbo

an opportunity thick enough to taste (snoball), Sunday, 17 April 2016 13:37 (eight years ago) link

I remain thankful that my current workplace doesnt seem to be into all that retreat and corp team building bullshit. Ive worked at other places thatve dnoe it. It is without exception a monumnental waste of everyone's time and money.

I mean ffs one year, we had one whose theme was Survivor (like the TV show). This, mind you, mere days after my entire team had been told we were all being let go in 3 months time. THANKS FOR RUBBING IT IN GUYS.

And what did the day involve? I couldn't tell you anything useful. At one point, we bashed on african drums. Then everyone else in the hotel we were in called and complained about the noise. At some other point I recall having to come up with an ad jingle. I discovered at this point that every single person I worked with had ZERO sense of rhythm or melody. they could not even hold a simple 4 4 beat. It was hideous.

Interesting. No, wait, the other thing: tedious. (Trayce), Monday, 18 April 2016 03:17 (eight years ago) link

I mean ffs one year, we had one whose theme was Survivor (like the TV show).

If next year's theme is Survivor (like the 80s band), ya know, I might just quit my whinging.

pplains, Monday, 18 April 2016 03:44 (eight years ago) link

All workplaces should have team building yacht rock karaoke tbrh

Interesting. No, wait, the other thing: tedious. (Trayce), Monday, 18 April 2016 03:53 (eight years ago) link

our teambuilding involves the occasionally 2-hour lunch, picked up by the company. I can live with that anyday.

Neanderthal, Monday, 18 April 2016 04:07 (eight years ago) link

Hope my team icon is the guy who wrote "Vehicle" by Ides of March.

pplains, Monday, 18 April 2016 04:10 (eight years ago) link

I remain thankful that my current workplace doesnt seem to be into all that retreat and corp team building bullshit. Ive worked at other places thatve dnoe it. It is without exception a monumnental waste of everyone's time and money.

a few years ago, i was doing fairly mind-numbing editorial for a telecoms company, and they got taken over by a us firm and fired most of my team. in the immediate aftermath, they moved me to a new team on a new floor, despite me having no work connection with this team, and my duties shrank to p much nothing, there was no editorial because i had no writers. i was basically kept on because i knew how to update their homepage quickly and use their awful cms.

anyway - the new team had a lot of recently promoted managers who were highly enthusiastic, and so they organised an away day at a conference place in covent garden. this was like my first introduction to this entire department, all at once.

for the first task, they covered the entire floor with photographs, like random photographs of a hundred different things, and we had to take one that symbolised "where we are", another for "where we have been" and a third for "where we're going". we then had to discuss this in front of the entire room. i picked a killer whale and said i was an endangered species in an ocean full of toxic waste.

there were other sessions in which people had to, publicly, say how happy they were, with their entire life (it was made clear this about your whole life) by picking a number between 1 and 10. there were at least three hour-long presentations from new boss types, and a final 90-minute session with a life coach from new zealand, which was essentially a long, long, fairly unstructured pep talk with a lot of stories about his life and his children.

the thing about team building is, if you actually need to do it, or if it's done to as a remedy to a lack of team spirit, it doesn't work. might as well be putting logs on a fire that's gone out.

where i work now my boss is constantly organising team events in an almost sweet way, like "you were away for your birthday, the team needs to have drinks!" - that probably sounds awful except that we all like each other, we all work well together, and we like working here. so we just go for drinks and it's fun.

japanese mage (LocalGarda), Monday, 18 April 2016 10:31 (eight years ago) link

like you are having a conversation about a piece of work and you email them and they reply with nine mystery people cc'ed in. or halfway through an email conversation they suddenly add a person in. they never say "oh i'm cc'ing john tediousman in here, he can help us with xyz" or whatever, as would be normal, just this creepy moment like that piratey guy in lost revealing his hundred jungle cohorts by having them light their torches.

So OTM, and it does seem quite civil service - I think we've had to take steps to stop one particular bit of it (clue: you pay tax to them) doing this on our ticketing system. It causes chaos and slows everything down.

woof, Monday, 18 April 2016 11:36 (eight years ago) link

it's a sort of group paralysis. like stasis by committee. some of the examples people gave upthread made a lot more sense to me, and seemed fine, but there's a kind of passive aggressive silence to this in the civil service,

japanese mage (LocalGarda), Monday, 18 April 2016 11:53 (eight years ago) link

Thanks for the update to this thread, I've cc'd in your boss to confirm it's inline with what she was expecting

kinder, Monday, 18 April 2016 13:11 (eight years ago) link

i picked a killer whale and said i was an endangered species in an ocean full of toxic waste.

That's what I'm talking about.

pplains, Monday, 18 April 2016 13:16 (eight years ago) link

lolz. took redundancy about a month later. it was p cool as apparently the inanimate carbon rod they put doing my job had an absolute nightmare trying to update their homepage, the cms was really weird and shitty and i hadn't really thought about how difficult it would be for somebody with no editorial skills and no knowledge of its quirks to update the page. like it took a fucking age to preview anything, so knowing the exact character limits that fitted, instinctively, and basically the 30 types of headline that worked well, meant i could do what was a day's work for him in about an hour.

japanese mage (LocalGarda), Monday, 18 April 2016 14:01 (eight years ago) link

i picked a killer whale and said i was an endangered species in an ocean full of toxic waste.

I tip my hat to you, good sir.

Interesting. No, wait, the other thing: tedious. (Trayce), Tuesday, 19 April 2016 00:13 (eight years ago) link

what happened?

"i just ran out of time on friday"

oh well... that's ok then

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 26 April 2016 10:31 (eight years ago) link

that needs context.. was it something expected to be finished then no matter what and the person just peaced out and went home? (if so, fuck them)

Interesting. No, wait, the other thing: tedious. (Trayce), Wednesday, 27 April 2016 04:03 (eight years ago) link

No

Fuck "no matter what"

Daithi Bowsie (darraghmac), Wednesday, 27 April 2016 05:56 (eight years ago) link

depends on the culture. people shouldn't have to stay after the hours they're paid for, but i know in a lot of careers, eg architecture, maybe journalism, it's considered a bare minimum.

japanese mage (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 27 April 2016 07:25 (eight years ago) link

in t3l3v1s10n, I had to deal with staff who would sometimes go home on Friday having "run out of time" to actually schedule programs for Sunday afternoon in the system

glandular lansbury (sic), Wednesday, 27 April 2016 07:48 (eight years ago) link

Don't run out of time to do stuff that's on your radar that you have plenty of time to do. Don't stay after hours ever except in dire emergencies. Don't be a dick, don't work for dicks.

I've had Eno, ugh (ledge), Wednesday, 27 April 2016 08:10 (eight years ago) link

missed deadlines happen, I think though there is an expectation that if you are going to miss the deadline, that you give a head's up in advance about it, rather than waiting for someone to chase you down to ask about it. def agree tho that people shouldn't be forced to work 18 hour days to meet a deadline

I'm fairly obsessive about not missing deadlines but if one looks in danger, I usually give notice indicating we're not likely to finish on time, indicate some kind of root cause as to why we're behind/if we need something additional, and a new estimated complete date that is conservative enough that I can meet but aggressive enough that it's not putting anything else at risk and fair to the person who assigned to me.

if the deadline's ridiculous to begin with, I'll say so from the onset, and ask for additional help if they won't budge. fortunate that my boss is sympathetic to those things, cos other people I know have told me theirs tells them "well tough, get it done, I don't care how long it takes". fuck that

someone just lets a major deadline pass without comment, though yeah, fuck that.

Neanderthal, Wednesday, 27 April 2016 21:58 (eight years ago) link

in t3l3v1s10n, I had to deal with staff who would sometimes go home on Friday having "run out of time" to actually schedule programs for Sunday afternoon in the system

Yeah this is what i was angling at. There are some jobs where you just have to Get A Thing Done because it has a deadline/other people relying on it.

Interesting. No, wait, the other thing: tedious. (Trayce), Thursday, 28 April 2016 00:01 (eight years ago) link

I worked in the PS for years and "this isnt my role" or "its home time now eff off" was incredibly common.

Interesting. No, wait, the other thing: tedious. (Trayce), Thursday, 28 April 2016 00:01 (eight years ago) link

PS = Public Sector or PS= Private Sector or PS= something else?

a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Thursday, 28 April 2016 00:03 (eight years ago) link

sorry, public service/sector. Govt work.

Interesting. No, wait, the other thing: tedious. (Trayce), Thursday, 28 April 2016 00:13 (eight years ago) link

But yeah if some dick boss throws a massive job on your desk at 4.50 on Friday and says THIS MUST BE DONE READY FOR MONDAY MORNING, I think murder is an acceptable angle.

Interesting. No, wait, the other thing: tedious. (Trayce), Thursday, 28 April 2016 00:15 (eight years ago) link

The boss is incrementally making changes to my design of a safe-using-of-illict-drugs brochure which started off looking like a parody of a certain well-known self-help book (as I was instructed to make it) so that it no longer looks like said book, rendering the current design inexplicable, and also now makes no sense

I'd try to make sure the boss leaves verifiable fingerprints on the original instruction and the subsequent changes.

a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Thursday, 28 April 2016 01:34 (eight years ago) link

coworker gets in these weird moods where she just hums to herself allllllll day long and I want to drown her

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 28 April 2016 02:31 (eight years ago) link

co-worker today on a call that I was merely observing kept stating her confusion on this one particular item over and over, and the host kept restating his reassurances and next steps (follow-up meeting) over and over to where I began to wonder if I was in a time loop.

Neanderthal, Thursday, 28 April 2016 02:51 (eight years ago) link

coworker gets in these weird moods where she just hums to herself allllllll day long and I want to drown her

Oh quit being so whiney.

pplains, Thursday, 28 April 2016 03:19 (eight years ago) link

lol took me a sec

Neanderthal, Thursday, 28 April 2016 03:20 (eight years ago) link

OH. lol.

Interesting. No, wait, the other thing: tedious. (Trayce), Thursday, 28 April 2016 03:42 (eight years ago) link

idgi

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 28 April 2016 04:08 (eight years ago) link

actually oops it's this one:

http://www.ilxor.com/ILX/ThreadSelectedControllerServlet?boardid=77&threadid=67985

Neanderthal, Thursday, 28 April 2016 04:09 (eight years ago) link

Thats a 77 thread.

Interesting. No, wait, the other thing: tedious. (Trayce), Thursday, 28 April 2016 04:13 (eight years ago) link

THEN NOBODY WILL EVER KNOW...THE ANSWER

Neanderthal, Thursday, 28 April 2016 04:20 (eight years ago) link

co-workers are now on their second day of arguing about whether sports should honor full-season champions (like the premier league) or have playoffs (like north american sports)

decided to listen to tubular bells instead

mookieproof, Tuesday, 3 May 2016 16:45 (eight years ago) link

My office is dog friendly. And I hear all of you. AW! YOU GET TO HANG OUT WITH DOGS ALL DAY! WHO'S A PRETTY BOY?

Well. I've got this one behind me who lays at his owner's feet and gnaws gnaws gnaws gnaws gnaws gnaws gnaws gnaws gnaws gnaws gnaws gnaws gnaws gnaws gnaws gnaws gnaws gnaws gnaws gnaws gnaws gnaws gnaws gnaws gnaws gnaws gnaws gnaws gnaws gnaws on its fucking chew toy ALL DAY LONG.

I will say that it hasn't barked today, like it did Friday whenever someone would, you know, walk through our area.

pplains, Thursday, 12 May 2016 19:43 (eight years ago) link

You didn't hear me say it.

Dog friendly

Fuck off

Daithi Bowsie (darraghmac), Thursday, 12 May 2016 20:05 (eight years ago) link

some places need to just be for adults/humans.

japanese mage (LocalGarda), Thursday, 12 May 2016 22:36 (eight years ago) link

All places tbh

Daithi Bowsie (darraghmac), Thursday, 12 May 2016 22:46 (eight years ago) link

jfc

i have enough trouble with these ppl without introducing their animals into the equation

nope nope nope

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 12 May 2016 23:13 (eight years ago) link

We don't have a dog-friendly office, but we do have a tradition of, whenever the dog-hating boss is away, someone will bring in their dog and sit them in her chair, and we photograph it.

You have to make your own fun round here.

That doesn't sound terrible. I couldn't stand a workplace with a dog unless it was a junkyard or something outdoors.

how's life, Friday, 13 May 2016 00:24 (eight years ago) link

I think one of the few things worse than being a person made to go an office every day is being a dog made to go to an office every day.

pplains, Friday, 13 May 2016 01:02 (eight years ago) link

^^

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 13 May 2016 03:10 (eight years ago) link

this is a bare-bones summary of a broken-record convo I heard the other day. I was laughing for probably five straight minutes.

Doofus: i wanna talk to you about <platform>. you told our client we might have <platform> go live 7/1 despite delaying <other platform> to 8/1. we can't do that.

Leader: I don't think I said we were considering having <other platform> delayed to 8/1. We were just talking about sending specific files later.

Doofus: Ok because <platform> can't go live if <other platform> doesn't go live.

Leader: Understandable. I don't think we're talking about that, though. We are just talking about possibly changing the date certain files are sent.

Doofus: Ok - just so we're clear that we can't have <platform> go live, if <other platform> doesn't also go live. That isn't even an option, we need to not offer that.

Leader: I don't think we're going to. So - assuming that, could you create an order to have your team start working on <assignment>?

Doofus: That's going to depend on you all. As long as <other platform> goes live at the same time, we can do that - but we can't have <platform> go live before <other platform>.

Leader: Ok, ok, ok. Assume <other platform> going live 8/1 is off the table. Assume it's going live 7/1, like <platform>. Can you guys create the order to get the ball rolling on <assignment>.

Doofus: Well, it depends. I just want to make clear to you that <platforms> have to both go live at the same time.

......

I hung up after, I was giggling so hard and yet at the same time I knew if I listened to another second I might ping said person and say "OMG STFU ALREADY".

Neanderthal, Friday, 13 May 2016 03:13 (eight years ago) link

I'm really tempted to run a practical course on the fine art of how to eat an apple or bag of crisps without being overheard from a distance of 6 rows of desks.

Half-baked profundities. Self-referential smirkiness (Bob Six), Tuesday, 17 May 2016 11:24 (seven years ago) link

cube neighbor SHOUTS HIS PHONE CONVERSATIONS IN A BOOMING VOICE ALL DAY

For a long time I thought he had a middle ear issue bc he is a loudtalker in general

the other day he placed an apologetic phonecall to a customer in a low normal speaking voice & i wanted to run over & shout J'ACCUSE! So you CAN talk in a normal volume motherfucker WTF

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 17 May 2016 21:03 (seven years ago) link

Cube neighbor SHOUTS ALL OF HIS CONVERSATIONS IN A BOOMING VOICE ALL DAY. Like, all day. Every day. I don't know how he gets work done. Or why no one has acted on the many complaints they've received about him.

There are about 8 million things about this dude that irritate me on an almost cellular level but I think the top two at the moment are 1) his "laugh", which is uniformly this completely fake and weirdly forced wheezy exhalation that would seem to indicate that he's never actually heard a human laugh before (and I'm certain that I have yet to hear an actual laugh come out of his face) and 2) his apparent wish to slowly kill me by using 'yadda yadda' in every third sentence.

But seriously. I could absolutely swamp this thread with an array of fascinating details about Blabbermouth.

Wet Food (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 25 May 2016 13:08 (seven years ago) link

three weeks pass...

I genuinely think Kutcher is gonna jump out any minute and tell me I've been punked, such is the voluminous and unceasing stream of stupidity hitting my inbox this morning. Like, deep and profound, 'I have suddenly forgotten the most basic functions of my job' stupidity. I'd suspect a gas leak or some other freak incident that was impairing cognitive function en masse but this is coming from multiple offices so I'll just blame Obama.

Manspread Mann (Old Lunch), Thursday, 16 June 2016 16:28 (seven years ago) link

I had to test our phone lines this week on a specific platform (one I'm new to). I read the SOP - they have three platforms (including mine) in the same SOP, but this platform uses an entirely different system than the other two. SOP is full of info that's completely irrelevant, and missing instructions that I need because of this.

Asked around for a solid week to fill in the gaps - some of the answers I got in bits and pieces, some of them nobody could answer after going to five people. Just finished testing and I have no earthly fucking idea if it's done correctly.

*throws hands up*

Neanderthal, Friday, 17 June 2016 11:46 (seven years ago) link

SHOUTS HIS PHONE CONVERSATIONS IN A BOOMING VOICE ALL DAY

Yes - there's someone in my office space who does this - and she's says 'know what I mean' every 10 seconds. The whole purpose of these conversations as far as I can tell is to communicate to the office "Look! I'm doing all this!".

Even worse is she likes to get up and do a self-satisfied lap of honour around the office after a round of calls, obviously energised by calls that have achieved absolutely nothing in practical terms.

Half-baked profundities. Self-referential smirkiness (Bob Six), Friday, 17 June 2016 12:01 (seven years ago) link

if you can be heard more than like a row behind your desk, stfu, is how i see it

Neanderthal, Friday, 17 June 2016 12:23 (seven years ago) link

Everyone one phones and in browsers watching football
Send mail to the team leads pointing out we're not blind
Mail was just forwarded on to team
Pandemonium and outrage

Im not displeased tbh

Daithi Bowsie (darraghmac), Friday, 17 June 2016 17:26 (seven years ago) link

I've had three loudtalkers

Two of them were in one place where, because of the nature of the phone calls they were getting, you couldn't really blame them

The other one was a monster though ... the voice used to rise up, up and up ... this from two long desks away ... it always consisted of 'I think ... I think ...' and it was either about football or work related that they 'thought ...'

Never changed username before (cardamon), Saturday, 18 June 2016 01:57 (seven years ago) link

@ darragh I hate football at work tbh, the way you get pressed for an opinion on it and there is no right answer

Never changed username before (cardamon), Saturday, 18 June 2016 01:58 (seven years ago) link

xpost i can almost guarantee my office loudtalker has everyone beat

he's like a cross between morning zoo radio dj and a monster truck rally announcer

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 18 June 2016 05:13 (seven years ago) link

permaloud, always. no indoor voice at all. ONLY THE OUTSIDE VOICE, ALWAYS

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 18 June 2016 05:14 (seven years ago) link

the loud talker in our office is the Skype speaker they use for meetings - every morning the people phoning into scrums blast out of the thing like some kind of tannoy announcement.

koogs, Saturday, 18 June 2016 08:42 (seven years ago) link

what chaps me is when people loud-talk while having very personal calls.

there was this co-worker once who was going through a divorce and decided to have his arguments with his soon to be ex-spouse at max volume a row behind me.

Neanderthal, Saturday, 18 June 2016 12:21 (seven years ago) link

working from home has been so nice

Neanderthal, Saturday, 18 June 2016 12:21 (seven years ago) link

^
otm

Al Moon Faced Poon (Moodles), Saturday, 18 June 2016 14:52 (seven years ago) link

i'm thinking we should hold some kind of loud-talker world cup.

Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 18 June 2016 15:48 (seven years ago) link

"he's in the final third, and.....ouch, he was talking about the time he got wasted at the local Red Lobster, and he lost a little volume there. he's got to watch his breathing, judges deduct two points for a 10 decibel drop so that's going to hurt his final score"

Neanderthal, Saturday, 18 June 2016 15:55 (seven years ago) link

often at work people do blog posts and are like "tell us what you think!". it's a very collaborative open organisation, or . so this week i saw one of the pieces i work and i decided to "tell them what i think!" - and basically it had loads and loads of problems. i was pretty polite but made a big list of them, and there have been two reactions. the person that does my job who was involved has got mega-defensive and fu about it. i then sent a mail being as ultra-nice as i could "just my opinion, i apologise if it came across over-zealous etc etc", which didn't really change her tone.

just after this, her boss (i think it's her boss) is like "interesting ideas, let's you and me catch up about this, local garda".

feel like in trying to help i've just utterly utterly undermined someone and their boss is like "yes let's undermine them". this post is less bitching about co-workers and more office politics.

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Friday, 1 July 2016 10:43 (seven years ago) link

feel free to point out the errors in my post - i'd love to hear your feedback!

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Friday, 1 July 2016 10:43 (seven years ago) link

jesus that is the worst post ever.

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Friday, 1 July 2016 10:44 (seven years ago) link

just after this, her boss (i think it's her boss) is like "interesting ideas, let's you and me catch up about this, local garda".

lol, did her boss copy her in to this? cold bruv

So you are a hippocrite, face it! (Bananaman Begins), Friday, 1 July 2016 10:53 (seven years ago) link

yeah she was copied in. i had apologised and everything, she didn't really accept the apology, like replied brusquely, and then he replied in the same chain: "no need to apologise, feedback helps us to make things better. are you free to discuss this?"

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Friday, 1 July 2016 10:57 (seven years ago) link

terrible bossing on his part tbh. i've mailed my boss to extricate myself. POLITICS.

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Friday, 1 July 2016 11:01 (seven years ago) link

Go gard or go home

poor fiddy-less albion (darraghmac), Friday, 1 July 2016 18:02 (seven years ago) link

turned out fine really. my boss was fine with it, pretty much. just said to find out exactly who receives the feedback email in future, based on her own experiences.

i wasn't offering my opinion to boost favour with this team or get one over on the person, i just had genuine opinions about the piece of work that i felt most people in the organisation would agree with.

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Friday, 1 July 2016 18:36 (seven years ago) link

our 'practices' team decided to roll out this new procedure to the entire firm while simultaneously forgetting to notify 33% of the people who would be affected by it *and* without piloting it to ensure it was set up to work correctly on all systems first (*it isn't*) or giving anybody ample time to train people on it.

so now there are hundreds of employees all mondo confused about how to adhere to the new protocol.

Neanderthal, Saturday, 2 July 2016 00:44 (seven years ago) link

three live dates in a two week period = just ugh

Neanderthal, Wednesday, 6 July 2016 00:54 (seven years ago) link

had a rough month with three live dates in a span of two weeks and had to travel to San Juan (ok that part was fun, not gonna lie) for one of em. was looking forward to this week, having a day or two of a lighter workload.

got three hours of peace and then they give me a special complicated project due in two weeks. welp fun while it lasted

Neanderthal, Monday, 11 July 2016 22:20 (seven years ago) link

i just realized I already mentioned the 3 lives in my last post. lord last week was a blur.

Neanderthal, Monday, 11 July 2016 22:21 (seven years ago) link

I decided to move a guy but he wouldnt move this morning now the guy i was replacing him with has no seat

poor fiddy-less albion (darraghmac), Monday, 11 July 2016 22:25 (seven years ago) link

What, he just straight up refused to move desks when told to? Who does that?

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Tuesday, 12 July 2016 00:07 (seven years ago) link

just make new guy sit on old guy's lap

tbf i refused to move desks once, because I was supposed to use a different computer with none of the software I rely on to do my job available to me

movers broke my monitor during a routine move once, and then left pieces of it on my desk. then just left it sitting there broken and were all like "oh yeah I guess that happened" when I called them pissed off about it.

Neanderthal, Wednesday, 13 July 2016 02:32 (seven years ago) link

working virtually came at the right time

Neanderthal, Wednesday, 13 July 2016 02:32 (seven years ago) link

they also, for years, used to issue the laptops for us virtual folk with outdated drivers installed and nobody except an admin level or higher could download newer ones and the outdated driver caused the VPN connection to disconnect and reconnect something like 400 times a day and it'd take you a 45 minute convo to explain to the people that this same thing happened to you two years earlier when you got a new laptop only for them to go "nope nope I'm p sure it's your home internet connection" only for them to reluctantly install the up to date driver and well what do you know it stopped like you said it would.

Neanderthal, Wednesday, 13 July 2016 02:37 (seven years ago) link

there is a strange little old man crawling round on our floor tagging all the electrical equipment. he has an accent so thick you can't work out what he's saying, and he smells very strongly of ash and urine, as though someone has been electrocuted on the toilet.

I get mad when someone asks me "have time to touchbase" and I say sure thinking they mean via instant message but no, they insist on calling, and take fifteen minutes to say something they could have said in an instant message

Neanderthal, Thursday, 14 July 2016 01:20 (seven years ago) link

Today she brought in the bulldog she's dogsitting.

Dog panted like hah hah hah hah hah hah hah hah hah hah hah hah hah hah hah hah hah hah hah hah hah for four hours and snored like a wailing Harvey Keitel for the other four hours.

pplains, Thursday, 14 July 2016 01:55 (seven years ago) link

I would demand it went elswwhere, I just couldnt put up with that shit.

..I dont really like dogs tho :/

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Thursday, 14 July 2016 02:04 (seven years ago) link

One of those things where it doesn't seem to bother anyone else in the office, so it's either me making everything awkward and weird or me just putting up with it.

Trust me, I'm all teetering on the verge of putting MY GODAMM FOOT DOWN or risk being a MILQUETOAST CHICKENSHIT, but really. It's all about how I react to this that defines the vibe more than anything.

pplains, Thursday, 14 July 2016 02:32 (seven years ago) link

There's probably a message board for each co-worker in which they're making the same complaint.

nickn, Thursday, 14 July 2016 04:09 (seven years ago) link

OK guys I need advice on how to outflank the worst co-worker I've ever had

Preamble: I work for a small company, about 17 employees. The nemesis in question is a relatively recent hire but an old friend of the boss'. In between them seniority-wise is a manager I mostly like and respect.

This guy writes terrible "reports" we spend more time fixing than we would have writing *and* editing if we'd been assigned them, gets wounded and defensive at the slightest criticism, and - most insidiously of all - if he senses that you don't like or disagree with him but probably aren't at risk of getting the sack anytime soon, he pulls you aside and is almost creepily nice to you. (He did this to me today. It involved unprompted, hyperbolic personal compliments. And similarly unasked-for hugging.) At the same time, at least a half-dozen co-workers have expressed outright antipathy and/or had open verbal scuffles with him over his thickheadedness and lack of respect for others' skillsets.

Anyway yesterday I finally spoke to my manager a little about my misgivings w/r/t this guy, workflow, attitude, etc. Today I got the creepy compliments and the hug. I earnestly do not believe the manager said anything to him, I just think he has a keen sense of when forces are aligning against him.

What do you do in the face of such a weirdly shrewd (yet also incredibly thick), well-positioned adversary?

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Wednesday, 20 July 2016 03:01 (seven years ago) link

The hugging alone would have my hackles up immediately.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Wednesday, 20 July 2016 03:03 (seven years ago) link

meant to write *spent less time writing and editing (lol)

and yeah it was the hugging and telling me that I was truly special that solidified him as my first-ever real nemesis

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Wednesday, 20 July 2016 03:22 (seven years ago) link

Thats seriously creepy is there someone sideways you can talk to about it? HR or something?

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Wednesday, 20 July 2016 03:29 (seven years ago) link

Nah I already spoke up to the only person I can and he is a bit powerless. (Also, he literally just found out he has a kid on the way and that has him extra reticent to rock the boat, I believe.) As I said, it's a small, tight-knit (for the most part) company and the offender is well-situated. Sadly I think the only move I have is to call him out on his shit as openly as possible and hope I don't end up facing retaliation in the process. My ace in the hole is that I do a lot of the grunt work no one else wants to even consider. Basically it will come down to utility vs. closeness to the boss.

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Wednesday, 20 July 2016 03:36 (seven years ago) link

"I don't feel better and I recommend that people don't come anywhere near me <coughs and splutters all day>"

well gee thanks for coming in then, we all love germs and noises

a passing spacecadet, Thursday, 28 July 2016 08:23 (seven years ago) link

snored like a wailing Harvey Keitel

amazing.

Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 28 July 2016 14:29 (seven years ago) link

Nope not calling in on a day off to have a special meetimg about something that can realistically wait til Monday and that i havent the faintest clue about anyway

Neanderthal, Tuesday, 2 August 2016 21:25 (seven years ago) link

Reached the point where someone finds an article about Donald Trump online, reads it aloud, and everyone offers their reaction to it.

It's like working inside the liberal media version of the 700 Club.

pplains, Thursday, 4 August 2016 00:50 (seven years ago) link

lord, so glad this is why I work at home now. it's like politics don't even exist at my job and I'm thankful for that.

Neanderthal, Thursday, 4 August 2016 00:50 (seven years ago) link

we had two telephone issues for our client in a three-week span. One of them was global, the other one isolated to one specific team, but due purely to human error. Our division leader agreed to reach out to the telephony group to determine what could be done to address the issues that kept occurring, as there were five unrelated incidents in a three week span for various teams, which is very unusual.

In a pure pandering moment, our leaders present to our client that our long-term solution will be to extend QA by an extra week AFTER live date from now on, without asking us for our thoughts on it. Even though this would not have prevented either of the two incidents noted above (as borne out by the final incident reports).

aborting the "get ahead of emails" initiative. this shit waits til Monday now!

Neanderthal, Thursday, 4 August 2016 19:13 (seven years ago) link

People who don't reply to emails which say "Is this stuff right for your totally vague specifications with a deadline tomorrow? Please let me know if not and I'll do my best to fix it by the deadline"

(deadline sails past with no acknowledgement that files were even received, never mind right)

£%^&^%£

a passing spacecadet, Friday, 5 August 2016 08:37 (seven years ago) link

the symmetry and pound signs were accidental but I like to think they signify a particularly florid burst of swearing (of which I am probably not capable in actual words)

a passing spacecadet, Friday, 5 August 2016 08:40 (seven years ago) link

ugh that describes literally half of our corporate office

you feel needy for expecting a response to even the most basic questions! and voicemails go ignored too it's like being forcibly Bartleby-ed

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 6 August 2016 02:25 (seven years ago) link

https://www.the-pool.com/work/work-smarter/2016/32/a-guide-to-looking-interested-in-meetings

I do the squint but I also touch my hair.

kinder, Wednesday, 10 August 2016 11:42 (seven years ago) link

this is as much IA as co-workers, but one thing that always really annoys me is if you come back to your desk and someone from another team who happens to be talking to a colleague is sitting in your chair. it's so awkward. if they actually notice easily or are self-aware enough to do so then it's fine, but it can be so frustrating.

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 10 August 2016 13:02 (seven years ago) link

See how long you can go just standing vaguely near them with a patient smile on your face, shifting your weight from foot to foot

kinder, Wednesday, 10 August 2016 13:08 (seven years ago) link

i'm sure they're perfectly nice but i just flung my security card onto the desk and walked away to get water, after a brief attempt at politely communicating via body language that the desk full of someone else's work trappings was mine. not my finest hour but standing isn't always that easy for me, healthwise.

when i got back there was no change and my boss was like "oh yeah that's local garda's seat"...

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 10 August 2016 13:41 (seven years ago) link

Similarly but not quite as egregious, people in my office will stretch out and lean with their elbows atop the cubicle walls on either side of the aisle while talking to someone and then seem totally surprised when someone comes up the aisle who needs to get past the human spider web they've erected. Like, the same people, over and over.

Neither F.I.S.T. Nor Fletch (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 10 August 2016 13:52 (seven years ago) link

The guy who sits behind me eats something for breakfast every morning that smells, no joke, like diarrhea.

Bottomless Brunch & Topless Tapas (Old Lunch), Thursday, 11 August 2016 13:47 (seven years ago) link

Is it some runny, egg white thing? There's someone here who makes a significantly pungent sulfury egg dish some mornings. I don't understand how that sensation in regards to BOTH smell and consistency could possibly be appetizing to anybody.

Evan, Thursday, 11 August 2016 13:56 (seven years ago) link

I do think it's some egg thing. I haven't actually looked out of fear that I'd witness him actually slurping away at a bowl of diarrhea.

Bottomless Brunch & Topless Tapas (Old Lunch), Thursday, 11 August 2016 13:59 (seven years ago) link

holy crap, i clicked this thread to complain about my coworker eating a boiled egg every morning. It signals a 15 min break for me to leave the building.

bnw, Thursday, 11 August 2016 15:30 (seven years ago) link

It's like eggs have a defense mechanism (when prepared in these particular ways) that some humans have the ability to ignore. How do they not get hungry at the scent of actual diarrhea? In this context the smell is indeed exactly the same...

Evan, Thursday, 11 August 2016 15:37 (seven years ago) link

one of my colleagues was told they couldn't have a certain type of setup done because "we don't have it documented how to do it and the person that knew how quit a few months ago"

Neanderthal, Thursday, 11 August 2016 16:59 (seven years ago) link

it happens.

we had a lot of software projects where only one person knew the details. what happens when they leave? i still don't think i've forgiven the person who had two weeks left and decided to spend it refactoring the code rather than leaving it alone and documenting how it was, making handover harder rather than easier.

koogs, Thursday, 11 August 2016 17:09 (seven years ago) link

how dare people have coughs and sit in my vicinity

ælərdaɪs (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 11 August 2016 20:14 (seven years ago) link

I may have to quit because of my boss giggling every fucking day at things that ARE NOT FUNNY AT ALL.

Employee: Last time he said it was two weeks. Now he says it's 10 days.
Boss: He could mean business weeks. HEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHE 10 days is two business weeks! HEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEH

This exchange occurred 10 min ago. He has giggled at other things several times since.

bnw, Friday, 19 August 2016 18:40 (seven years ago) link

We're moving offices come Monday so everyone is basically acting like it's the last week of school here except for the part where there's, y'know, still work to do. The super annoying dude who should be Ritalin-ed to the gills is making me want to DIE because he won't SHUT UP like EVER and it's always somehow simultaneously the most banal and the most narcissistic shit you've ever heard (he recounts like every detail of his boring life, up to and including the loving details of pretty much every meal). Thank Christ he's going to be sitting about as far away from me as possible come next week. Assuming I don't defenestrate him before the day is over.

Two Kisses and Three Wet Mouths (Old Lunch), Friday, 19 August 2016 19:01 (seven years ago) link

one month passes...

this is my old job and not my new job BUT:

An employee came out as trans (MTF) and has begun talking to colleagues abt transitioning in the workplace. A lot of the brass at the company has been fiercely supportive, adopting zero-tolerance policies w/r/t harrassment, etc etc. My friend who still works there is in charge of some communication logistics, filling ppl in, ensuring that they don't behave like dicks, and THE ONLY person who seemed uncomfortable and asked questions about bathrooms was the HR person

o_O

laraaji p. henson (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 21 September 2016 15:47 (seven years ago) link

setting the tone from above, wonderful

Neanderthal, Wednesday, 21 September 2016 18:33 (seven years ago) link

not mine but a friend of mine's HR is the absolute worst. I've probably complained on here before about them doing a Michael Scott-style diversity training course about 'people of ethnicity'.

kinder, Wednesday, 21 September 2016 19:21 (seven years ago) link

oh jesus christ

laraaji p. henson (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 21 September 2016 19:43 (seven years ago) link

I mentioned it on the business travel thread but i had to complain to HR yesterday that the cultural awareness training app they'd bought in was hugely xenophobic and offensive - which they took with good grace and promised to investigate tbf.

On a Raqqa tip (ShariVari), Wednesday, 21 September 2016 21:50 (seven years ago) link

did it begin something like

"People who talk funny and eat weird foods are all around us, but did you know - they're just like us?"

Neanderthal, Wednesday, 21 September 2016 22:02 (seven years ago) link

I'd tempted to start a 77 thread to repost highlights but let's just say it didn't come as a huge surprise that the team responsible for authoring it looks like this:

http://s21.postimg.org/70hs7f6cn/Culture_wizard.jpg

On a Raqqa tip (ShariVari), Thursday, 22 September 2016 07:43 (seven years ago) link

the most awkward diversity presentation I saw was when I worked for @lbertsons. it began something like with a woman sitting down behind a desk for the first few minutes of the video, and then she came out from behind it and was in a wheelchair. and she says something like "ask yourself - did you assume I was sitting down because I was lazy? Admit it - you made a judgement thinking I was able bodied and sitting down, and now your judgment has changed since you can see I'm in a wheelchair".

I was like.....ooook?

I quit a week later. not for that reason, but cos the deli sucks.

Neanderthal, Thursday, 22 September 2016 13:54 (seven years ago) link

So lazy.

http://i.imgur.com/phea9DK.jpg

pplains, Thursday, 22 September 2016 13:57 (seven years ago) link

A person sitting at a desk in an office... omg lazy!

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Friday, 23 September 2016 01:43 (seven years ago) link

tbf it may have been slightly diff than that - this was a shitty VHS tape that I watched 12 years ago.

moments later they showed a guy who had all the room in the world squeezing by an employee in the aisle and brushing up against her and her yelling at him "YOU COULD HAVE AVOIDED ME YOU CREEP!" and another dude inviting a girl to a pool party and saying she should attend sans swimsuit while everyone laughed.

this was expressed as 'bad and perhaps illegal' behavior to us by the narrator.

Neanderthal, Friday, 23 September 2016 01:51 (seven years ago) link

so today after spilling something on my laptop and having it make the entire home row not work, I went to the office to have them see if they could salvage it, and then temporarily propped up on one of our unassigned computers that you can use in these types of scenarios.

Logged in and then loaded the browser to go onto my company's intranet home page so I could start a work ticket only to have it blocked with a scary warning telling me the site was an Untrusted Connection and the Security Certificate was invalid.

Neanderthal, Friday, 23 September 2016 01:54 (seven years ago) link

I've had that happen on a spare computer where only my company's website was blocked.

pplains, Friday, 23 September 2016 01:58 (seven years ago) link

hah yeah, I suspect it's cos these computers don't get used often. the IT guy who I was telling where I was to come and help me had no idea what location I was talking about at first.

Neanderthal, Friday, 23 September 2016 02:01 (seven years ago) link

CW1: Yeah, "Radar Love" was a good song. Pretty good for a one-hit wonder.

ME: GOLDEN EARRING WASN'T A ONE-HIT WONDER. THEY ALSO HAD "TWILIGHT ZONE".

CW1: Don't know if I've heard that one...

Three days later...

CW1: Oh, I thought of another Golden Earring song the other day. What about "When the Bullet Hits the Bone"?

ME:
http://i.imgur.com/AAteF8c.jpg

pplains, Wednesday, 5 October 2016 13:42 (seven years ago) link

TBF, I also thought it was called 'When the Bullet Hits the Bone' for like the first couple decades of my life.

(Also, totes incidental but I was pleasantly surprised to discover a few years back that Golden Earring had a really long and largely good career.)

Our Salads Are Now Almost Entirely Blood-Free! (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 5 October 2016 13:45 (seven years ago) link

one of my co-workers doesn't realize that forecasted handle times are expressed as a decimal, which has to be converted to minutes, so yesterday in a stats report she reported the forecasted handle time as 8:80

reminded me of Simon and Garfunkel's strategy to get longer songs played on radio

Neanderthal, Wednesday, 5 October 2016 13:50 (seven years ago) link

I think i saw the sleeve of a collection of 60s work by them(Golden Earring)crop up when I was looking for something else or running through Amazon recommendations recently.

Stevolende, Wednesday, 5 October 2016 13:54 (seven years ago) link

During that conversation, CW2 sent me a YouTube video from Golden Earring's catalogue where the lead singer pretty much rapes a nun on the subway.

I've learned a lot about Golden Earring in the past week. Might stick with Bettie Serveert for the long run.

pplains, Wednesday, 5 October 2016 14:29 (seven years ago) link

I think it was this that I saw somewhere, so maybe on a site about psychedelic clothing I was looking at.
//e.snmc.io/lk/f/l/b191e5b280a704769de27615f32c0142/1354995.jpg

Stevolende, Wednesday, 5 October 2016 15:00 (seven years ago) link

"did the process for <xxx> change?"

'no, it's the same process as it always was. that thing we used to do for you and we said you were welcome to request at any time actually should never have been allowed so we stopped allowing it overnight and opted not to ever tell you cos LOL'.

"so...yes?"

Neanderthal, Friday, 14 October 2016 22:04 (seven years ago) link

Trying to eavesdrop on an interesting conversation which tangentially overlaps with my work in the office next door, but sadly in the other office next door the coworker with the loud droning nasal voice is droning loudly and nasally about something very boring and drowning out the interesting conversation

Later today there will be a team meeting which will be 90% this guy immediately answering everything the boss says and similarly droning on at length

Do bosses ever wonder "what would meetings be like if that one guy didn't talk for 90% of the time?", do they just think "that one guy is really helpful and informative and everyone else is just too lazy or clueless to speak!", do they not even notice that one person is talking all the time as long as they like that one person?

(tempted to add "and it's a man" w/thoughts of that study where women were thought of as noisy, bossy and conversation-dominating when they spoke for way less time than the men, but hey, Not All Men)

a passing spacecadet, Monday, 24 October 2016 10:36 (seven years ago) link

I was basically told by a manager this morning that it's unfair of me to expect her people to understand the correct way to do a thing (that I've explicitly reminded her and them how to do, many times, over several years) and that me taking time out to send them correction requests on a daily basis is apparently an acceptable substitute for their mindfulness.

(I should note, too, that this isn't about making mistakes, which is forgivable, but rather ignorance wrt a basic daily function of one's job, which I tend to be a little less forgiving about for some reason. Probably because I am a meanie.)

Wikipedia Brown and the Case of the Incomplete Filmography (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 25 October 2016 17:08 (seven years ago) link

My company has started trying to enforce the following rules in relatively quick succession:

1) You must take a half hour unpaid lunch (state law only requires twenty minutes, but whatevs).
2) You must start your work day no later than 7:00 AM (we've had a flex schedule forever which allowed us to come in earlier and get out earlier but still no huge deal).
3) You must take your lunch no more than 5 hours after your start time (again, dumb, but nothing ott).
4) You cannot eat lunch at your desk (wait...what?).

At a half hour (anything OVER half an hour must be approved by a manager), leaving the building to eat is a PITA, particularly during the winter. So you basically engineer things in a way that encourages people to bring their lunch to work but then tell them they can't eat at their desks, which means they have to eat in one of two small kitchen areas. And because you've over-engineered people's start times and restricted when they can take their lunches, that means that basically several hundred people are going to be vying for that kitchen space at the same time every day.

I'm continuing to eat at my desk, FYI, and, on the offchance that someone above me decides to actually call me out for doing so, I relish utilizing the opportunity to discuss any number of actually impactful work matters that have gone largely unresolved in favor of an increased focus on treating professional adults like unruly twelve-year-olds who have to be corralled through the lunchroom.

I'm not a dummy. I'm not. (Old Lunch), Monday, 31 October 2016 19:03 (seven years ago) link

Is that for real? Honestly? What kind of a workplace is that? That's insane, do they think you're toddlers?
I only take half an hour for lunch but can take longer if I want. You can't get out to get food and come back and eat it in that time. You can just about queue for one of the two microwaves in that time, I suppose.

kinder, Monday, 31 October 2016 19:56 (seven years ago) link

Are you in the US, Old Lunch? The "lunch at desk " sounds like they are getting ready for the new FLSA regs for December 1 - in case you might answer a work email or three while eating lunch, bing - could be overtime!

aloof club (doo dah), Monday, 31 October 2016 20:04 (seven years ago) link

Yeah, I'm in the US. And this is coming straight from HR, so that doesn't surprise me at all. I just need to relay to any and all concerned parties that the idea of doing one iota of work for this company while off the clock is laughable in the extreme.

I'm not a dummy. I'm not. (Old Lunch), Monday, 31 October 2016 20:28 (seven years ago) link

Yes, we had a big meeting about all that a couple of weeks ago, in particular with exempt staff who will move to non-exempt, so they might have *possibly* answered a work email or two while at lunch and next thing you know, overtime. We're grant-funded, so that could be a problem...

aloof club (doo dah), Monday, 31 October 2016 20:52 (seven years ago) link

there's a systems guy who on multiple occasions has made config mistakes which caused things not to work. things that are p crucial that we have working. and I might be forgiving cos we're all human, except the ensuing convo always looks like this when we're testing...

Us: Hey, we expected <result> but am getting <other result>. Can you look into this when you have a chance?
Him: That's weird, I have no idea why it wouldn't be working. (end of message, awkward silence)
Us: Can you take a look at it, or do you know a resource who might be able to help? This will cause a major problem if this isn't working properly tomorrow morning.
Him: (no reply to various forms of attempts to communicate, so we give up and root around, struggling to find somebody who might be able to help, and then when they show up, points out dude set it up wrong and has to fix it for him).

Neanderthal, Friday, 4 November 2016 01:27 (seven years ago) link

oh my god these people will not fucking shut up about the heating/cooling

my kingdom for a kitana

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 4 November 2016 03:13 (seven years ago) link

XD

how's life, Friday, 4 November 2016 13:52 (seven years ago) link

Apparently a coworker has left a brassiere on the bookshelf in my office. I don't know what to do about this at all.

how's life, Friday, 18 November 2016 12:51 (seven years ago) link

I think the best course of action is to pretend that I haven't seen it.

how's life, Friday, 18 November 2016 13:17 (seven years ago) link

I feel like I need some more context here.

But I believe that general rules of etiquette dictate that you should leave a rumpled undershirt or perhaps some sock garters in her work area as a show of mutual regard.

i need microsoft installed on my desktop, can you help (Old Lunch), Friday, 18 November 2016 13:32 (seven years ago) link

I don't know which of my women coworkers it belongs to!

http://65.media.tumblr.com/avatar_1d6330389db6_128.png

how's life, Friday, 18 November 2016 13:52 (seven years ago) link

I left the office to use the restroom and when I came back it was gone. The best possible resolution to this predicament.

how's life, Friday, 18 November 2016 14:04 (seven years ago) link

Took a while for my phone to upload to photobucket, but here is the bookshelf, during wilder times:

http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u120/kingkonggodzilla/20161118_081601_zpsh0xytztc.jpg

how's life, Friday, 18 November 2016 14:22 (seven years ago) link

1: print photo
2: frame
3: place on shelf in it's place

Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 18 November 2016 14:31 (seven years ago) link

Okay, hard lol @ that.

i need microsoft installed on my desktop, can you help (Old Lunch), Friday, 18 November 2016 14:32 (seven years ago) link

lol

how's life, Friday, 18 November 2016 14:34 (seven years ago) link

do it!!! lol

andrew m., Friday, 18 November 2016 15:14 (seven years ago) link

I'm actually gonna delete that from my photobucket because I feel like a bit of a creep posting someone's undergarment up there. But just so you all know I wasn't making this up.

how's life, Friday, 18 November 2016 15:33 (seven years ago) link

Like whoever the hell left that there just borrowed my office to change after I had gone for the day and probably was mortified that they'd left it.

how's life, Friday, 18 November 2016 15:35 (seven years ago) link

Your workplace should really look into constructing a restroom, which would additionally serve to curb those desperate instances of people defecating in your trashcan for want of a more appropriate place to do such things.

i need microsoft installed on my desktop, can you help (Old Lunch), Friday, 18 November 2016 15:54 (seven years ago) link

We have restrooms. And a locker room! And a copy room that people rarely venture into! But I guess some of the people who have cubicles instead of offices do their post-work changes in offices that aren't in use. The thing is, we have an office that is only used by a woman who comes into town once a month, so if you're going to change in someone's actual office, rather than one of the several appropriate places to change, why use mine and not that one?

how's life, Friday, 18 November 2016 15:59 (seven years ago) link

Maybe it was already occupied by another changer?

nickn, Friday, 18 November 2016 20:25 (seven years ago) link

Maybe some people fucked on your desk.

sad, hombres (sic), Saturday, 19 November 2016 02:25 (seven years ago) link

^^^

mookieproof, Saturday, 19 November 2016 03:14 (seven years ago) link

this possibility should be considered.

Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 19 November 2016 07:06 (seven years ago) link

Oh shit!

how's life, Saturday, 19 November 2016 12:06 (seven years ago) link

thought of famed donkey boy of this thread renown only yesterday

the kids are alt right (darraghmac), Saturday, 19 November 2016 13:30 (seven years ago) link

The cursed return of the dastardly thermo thinwall otm

diary of a mod how's life (wins), Saturday, 19 November 2016 13:32 (seven years ago) link

thought of famed donkey boy of this thread renown only yesterday

― the kids are alt right (darraghmac), Saturday, November 19, 2016 5:30 AM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I think of this story all the time, especially the stunning conclusion

slathered in cream and covered with stickers (silby), Saturday, 19 November 2016 15:57 (seven years ago) link

People who take the lift up one floor. Lazy fuckers, why can't they use the stairs?

heaven parker (anagram), Sunday, 20 November 2016 08:07 (seven years ago) link

because i lack an acl, ya fuckin git

mookieproof, Sunday, 20 November 2016 08:16 (seven years ago) link

No, there's nothing wrong with their legs.

heaven parker (anagram), Sunday, 20 November 2016 09:37 (seven years ago) link

my building had a sign in the lifts telling people to stop frowning or commenting on one-floor lift usage.

it does bother me but i don't think i was the reason for the sign.

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Sunday, 20 November 2016 11:04 (seven years ago) link

we've done this before, some people may have hidden disabilities that mean they need to use the lift, obviously some people are lazy, thoughtless fuckers, probably best not to get into it unless you are absolutely certain the person is in the latter category and not the former

see also: disabled parking spaces etc

brex yourself before you wrex yourself (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 20 November 2016 11:09 (seven years ago) link

yeah i think it's fair enough really - it is weird for people to be mean to others without knowing - though plenty of them of course must just be lazy thoughtless cunts.

my feeling was that the lifts should be better and then people wouldn't be so frustrated, and that the building's willingness to clamp down on the frustration was telling in this way.

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Sunday, 20 November 2016 11:15 (seven years ago) link

what's the main objection, is it an environmental thing or is it the seconds you lose getting to your destination or something else

diary of a mod how's life (wins), Sunday, 20 November 2016 11:20 (seven years ago) link

Don't know why this would annoy anyone tbh

The Doug Walters of Crime (Tom D.), Sunday, 20 November 2016 11:23 (seven years ago) link

one example: it can be annoying in a busy, crowded building if you suspect that people who genuinely need the lift to access other floors are being kept waiting because lazy bastards are filling them up unnecessarily

but like i said, impossible to tell

brex yourself before you wrex yourself (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 20 November 2016 11:32 (seven years ago) link

I prefer to just assume that everyone's a lazy bastard, it doesn't seem an unreasonable assumption to make given what else I know of the ppl in my workplace

and yeah, resent the additional time needed to get to my destination

heaven parker (anagram), Sunday, 20 November 2016 11:43 (seven years ago) link

why not assume they're impatient bastards, then?

diary of a mod how's life (wins), Sunday, 20 November 2016 11:44 (seven years ago) link

that makes no sense, with the time taken to wait for the lift to arrive they could have got there quicker by using the stairs

heaven parker (anagram), Sunday, 20 November 2016 11:48 (seven years ago) link

Like how standing still on an escalator is slower than climbing the stairs? True in most cases but not all.

This lift politics stuff is interesting, I've never had cause to consider it tbh

diary of a mod how's life (wins), Sunday, 20 November 2016 11:57 (seven years ago) link

Like if they're there for accessibility only & not accessibility + convenience that's simple enough - able-bodied people should take the stairs in all cases anyway.

diary of a mod how's life (wins), Sunday, 20 November 2016 11:59 (seven years ago) link

what's the main objection, is it an environmental thing or is it the seconds you lose getting to your destination or something else

it is actually the time. dunno how your building is but p much everywhere i've ever worked the lifts have been a nightmare. cumulatively the amount of wasted time is a low-level irritant.

when you've waited ages for the lift in the first place it does grate a bit.

any excuse to post this btw: http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2008/04/21/up-and-then-down

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Sunday, 20 November 2016 12:05 (seven years ago) link

I work in a one-storey farm building & live in a ground-floor flat, v rarely go anywhere with enough floors not to just use the stairs

diary of a mod how's life (wins), Sunday, 20 November 2016 12:13 (seven years ago) link

I used to work on 13th floor and would seethe at lift being taken up by people going 1-2 floors. Could make me late for work, not just by 'a few seconds'
Not to mention shops with tiny lifts but loads of people with buggies/wheelchairs needing to use them.

kinder, Sunday, 20 November 2016 12:27 (seven years ago) link

i dunno if it's a trick of the light or just more thoughtless cunts, but in my lift at work, if you're standing in either corner at the back, a lot of people seem to massively overestimate how much room there is between their back and your face. i've never known this to be a thing in other places i worked.

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Sunday, 20 November 2016 12:31 (seven years ago) link

this is what interests me though - it seemed before that everyone was in agreement that lift use became justifiable at two floors+, are we changing it to 3+ now

diary of a mod how's life (wins), Sunday, 20 November 2016 12:34 (seven years ago) link

I bet you could walk up 3 floors in the same amount of time it takes to wait for & ride these slow, slow lifts

diary of a mod how's life (wins), Sunday, 20 November 2016 12:35 (seven years ago) link

My floor is secure, so I have to take the elevator.

(somber synthesizer music) (doo dah), Sunday, 20 November 2016 12:40 (seven years ago) link

not just by 'a few seconds'

what are we talking, 45 minutes?

diary of a mod how's life (wins), Sunday, 20 November 2016 12:56 (seven years ago) link

at work we'd get people coming back *from the gym* taking the lift one floor.

worst lifts i've seen recently are in the new tate modern tower. i ended up walking up 6 floors. waited 3 or 4 minutes at each floor but there was never any space.

koogs, Sunday, 20 November 2016 13:08 (seven years ago) link

they're tired from the workout, geez 😏

diary of a mod how's life (wins), Sunday, 20 November 2016 13:17 (seven years ago) link

xxp yeah, could be

kinder, Sunday, 20 November 2016 13:37 (seven years ago) link

In buildings I've worked in, stairs are for emergency use only, so they're locked from the outside at the ground floor (and locked from the inside at all other floors) so the only way to get to any floor is by elevator.

Je55e, Sunday, 20 November 2016 19:26 (seven years ago) link

This is the norm, except in buildings with open staircases as opposed to stairwells.

Je55e, Sunday, 20 November 2016 19:27 (seven years ago) link

But when people at my last workplace griped about someone taking the elevator only 1 or 2 floors, I told just them "Oh, well s/he has bone cancer, so...."

Je55e, Sunday, 20 November 2016 19:32 (seven years ago) link

This is not my co-workers' fault, but a series of events have led to us needing to produce a brochure on safer alternatives to injecting drugs, which has required me to spend the morning looking through image libraries for photos of people shoving pills and powders up their arses. This has not been my funnest day at work.

I hear from this arsehole again, he's going in the river (James Morrison), Wednesday, 23 November 2016 04:58 (seven years ago) link

listened to my least favorite coworker inquire why a thing happened (answer: she fucked up) and spent what felt like an hour not accepting any explanation that suggested that her fuckup was in any way the cause

i hate her

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 23 November 2016 05:37 (seven years ago) link

Shove some MDMA wrapped in a cigarette paper up her bum, then take a photo and send it to me. It can't be worse than anything I've seen today.

I hear from this arsehole again, he's going in the river (James Morrison), Wednesday, 23 November 2016 06:11 (seven years ago) link

lol

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 23 November 2016 17:45 (seven years ago) link

For literally years, I have butted heads with the manager of another department about the way we need her department to do a particular thing that directly affects us. I've written up very detailed guidelines about the correct way this process should be handled, and her department complies for a little while before inevitably backsliding into halfassery. For about the eight hundredth time, she has stubbornly asserted that her department will continue to fulfill requests in the demonstrably incorrect and incomplete way they're sent by requestors who don't fully understand this process rather than simply following our guidelines, a decision which inevitably leads to multiple follow-up correction requests (and, it should be noted, unnecessary duplicative work for her department) and pointless delays and frustration on the part of everyone affected and almost certainly lost business. So because I'm so completely tired of this intransigent moron, I've decided to turn the rhetorical fire up to 'white hot' and burn her to a cinder in an email to everyone in the company that is even tangentially superior to her. Which will almost certainly result in nothing more tangible than a momentary self-righteous endorphin rush, but you takes what you can gets.

i need microsoft installed on my desktop, can you help (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 23 November 2016 18:18 (seven years ago) link

I'd target it more specifically and tone down the white hot to rationally indignant. But that's unsought advice, so take it however you will.

a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Wednesday, 23 November 2016 18:45 (seven years ago) link

Rational indignation is my perpetual weapon of choice.

i need microsoft installed on my desktop, can you help (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 23 November 2016 18:52 (seven years ago) link

Handed my notice in a couple of weeks ago. Spent yesterday trying to make sense of the handover from someone else who left a week ago to the two new starts on his site as a favfour to that site's general manager (and because technically it's still my job for a month), by lunchtime nmfp had hit and I spend the afternoon just going "no, that's a fucking disaster, sucks to be you".

Horizontal Superman is invulnerable (aldo), Thursday, 24 November 2016 11:03 (seven years ago) link

In the meantime the guy I car share with has been telling everyone I'm not going to work for another company but I'm going into Big Brother next year and they can't tell anyone because it's embargoed.

Horizontal Superman is invulnerable (aldo), Thursday, 24 November 2016 11:06 (seven years ago) link

Would vote.

Just noise and screaming and no musical value at all. (Colonel Poo), Thursday, 24 November 2016 11:11 (seven years ago) link

That is excellent

I hear from this arsehole again, he's going in the river (James Morrison), Thursday, 24 November 2016 23:06 (seven years ago) link

dude insists on addressing issues directly to me even after I told him I'd transitioned ownership to someone else and gave him the name three times, and even when I was on PTO with an out of office message hitting him every time he sent it.

I didn't respond to a single one of them (the other person on the email did them all as I'd previously said) so I think he finally got the message.

Neanderthal, Friday, 25 November 2016 20:43 (seven years ago) link

i like my coworkers generally but lately i find the basic competency on the slide. like i keep getting messages about a problem which is fixed by almost no action whatsoever, or like just a basic competency. this morning a colleague im'ed me to say "this page we are about to publish is meant to link to page xyz but i can't find page xyz, it doesn't seem to be live" - i went to the website we work on and typed the title of page xyz in and it appeared as the first result. i feel like this kind of thing slowly kills you.

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Friday, 9 December 2016 11:35 (seven years ago) link

I've got a severe outbreak of co-workers who have self-elected to "ensure a co-ordinated approach/make sure we're on the front foot/look for opportunities to join up across teams/help you to make your ideas land", most of whom add no value, and are actually a drain on the organisation.

Particularly annoying are the "stakeholder engagment" people who email (copy to all staff of course) to say "I've spoken to a,b, c and x,y, and z' - and they're all really keen to come to talk to you." I'm busy enough thanks - perhaps you could handle it.

It seems that for every person producing "original content" in government, there's are about 10 people who have a nebulous self-publising ineffectual hangers-on role.

Dr Drudge (Bob Six), Friday, 9 December 2016 13:02 (seven years ago) link

Whilst I'm on a grumbling roll, here's my top 2 irrtiations of the moment:

"Can you attend this meeting in the next 5 minutes to tell everyone what you're working on"

[Subtext: we had no idea how to fiull this meeting so we thought we'd drag you in]

"Can you urgently forward me a description of your project"

[Subtext: I'll forward this, using my finely-honed cut and paste skills, as if I've weritten it.

Dr Drudge (Bob Six), Friday, 9 December 2016 13:16 (seven years ago) link

We're now at the point where Outlook crashes daily. DAILY. Often for an extended period of time, sometimes as much as half the day. I cannot do any work without access to my email. I'm currently at, like, forty minutes and counting of getting paid to browse the internet today. But this is just treated by management like...whaddayagonnado! Imma go work for IT and enjoy that sweet, sweet job security with apparently zero expectations wrt performance.

The Pleasure Principal (Old Lunch), Monday, 12 December 2016 14:38 (seven years ago) link

we merged with a separate department that views governance as a dirty word, and today I took a closer look at some of their documents that are used daily on phone calls by reps. In just 30 minutes, found five errors, all involving incorrect documentation of federal regulations, and the time stamp on each page seemed to indicate none of these pages has been quality reviewed since 2008!

but go on and brag about how you don't need oversight for these things!

Neanderthal, Monday, 12 December 2016 17:40 (seven years ago) link

OUtlook isnt crashing due to a plug-in, is it? that used to do it for me, one particular plug-in that was taxing it (xpost)

Neanderthal, Monday, 12 December 2016 17:41 (seven years ago) link

No, this is company-wide. Yes, that's right: probably thousands of people affected daily (and, y'know, thousands of dollars pissed down the drain every time your entire workforce is prevented from doing their jobs) and they just shrug their shoulders.

The Pleasure Principal (Old Lunch), Monday, 12 December 2016 17:45 (seven years ago) link

Yeah we use ShoreTel voip at work and the plugin for that would ruin my outlook if I went into the calendar.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Monday, 12 December 2016 22:13 (seven years ago) link

it's real fun when someone sends me an email saying they gave "major suggested revisions" to several of the docs I authored, to where I'm panicked wondering if they hacked them to pieces and I'm basically having to go back to formula...

and then I look further and none of the suggestions are major, and most of them are based on the reader's misunderstanding due to not reading the docs in fucking sequence like they were supposed to.

Neanderthal, Tuesday, 20 December 2016 04:32 (seven years ago) link

on the plus side, now I'm at least relieved that my week isn't ruined with re-work.

Neanderthal, Tuesday, 20 December 2016 04:32 (seven years ago) link

most of my team is out this week, the whole office will be closed for all of next week. Why do so many people want to sneak in major projects right now?

Al Moon Faced Poon (Moodles), Tuesday, 20 December 2016 06:38 (seven years ago) link

this is why I like working in IT. embargo period, fuckerrrrs.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Tuesday, 20 December 2016 08:28 (seven years ago) link

my job told me last week they won't renew my contract end of january, they can't tell me any reason why, they've just stated a lot of bureaucratic reasons, my recruiter tried to find out and ended up concluding "it is a mystery".

it's not a big sad story or something, i p much have another more highly-paid job secured already and i'm a contractor, so these things can happen. but it was a good place to work and prob a centre of excellence of sorts for what i do. i prob stepped up and did some of the best work i've ever done, and was learning more than ever.

it's the circumstances involved that are rotten too. we've just finished one major project which took a year, a big editorial set of 160 pages or so. and despite working on a team with 3/4 others and having no more responsibility than anyone else, i probably ended up writing 130 of those pages and seeing them through to completion. during this time more than one contractor went on sabbatical for two months and came back to a new contract. i carried the project at times, i became responsible for lots of things i didn't have to be responsible for, they kept fencing off sections for other people to work on but because those people would never finish other sections they had started, on schedule, i'd end up working on those too, with the blessing of my bosses. in the end over time some of the bosses who knew me really well had moved to other teams, and it was like there was nobody to stick up for me.

i wasn't even told one to one by someone i know, my new boss summoned me to a room with herself and two people i never work with in it, and they just mumbled loads of bureaucratic excuses like "frameworks" or "procurement" which my recruiter subsequently found out to be untrue. ironically my role exists to eradicate the kind of language they use. coupled with the fact they tried to move me from one team to another last month, it's doubly sinister. they vaguely alluded to my contract when, for the honest good of the business, i said i had to stay in the team i was in to actually finish the year-long project, like to protect them from themselves, then the next day they said asking me to move had all been a mistake, they had got confused and it didn't matter, everything was okay, i think because it was clear how weird and unprofessional the whole thing was.

i keep trying to tell myself this is how contracting works, and i will move on and it'll be even, plus even if i wanted to stay there i could, i could go permanent for 40 per cent of the money, but the fact is they've renewed other contractors in my team.

we're launching the product this week with a big hoo-ha and i prob have as much a sense of attachment to it and commitment to it as anyone, if not more, yet i feel v little pride given my work has transpired to be invisible.

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 20 December 2016 11:05 (seven years ago) link

That always sucks - i was just made redundant along with 2 others out of a team of 20, when I'd been there 12 years and others were on less than 2. I tried fighting it but, given the circumstances (we were in administration and got bought out by another company very different culturally) and the redundancy settlement, not that hard.

The main feeling is that my manager didn't go to bat for me. But I'll never see him again so...

> "it is a mystery"

A lot of this too. I guess they don't have to explain...

koogs, Tuesday, 20 December 2016 11:33 (seven years ago) link

that sounds hard after such a long time - at least i was only there 15 months or so. such a weird feeling once you know you're leaving a place, everything suddenly seems so irrelevant.

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 20 December 2016 11:45 (seven years ago) link

I am in my last week and am literally doing nothing, just seeing the time out. I have decided to use it wisely, and am re-reading Cerebus opnely at my desk.

Horizontal Superman is invulnerable (aldo), Tuesday, 20 December 2016 12:01 (seven years ago) link

I spent yesterday writing an audio skit about a fictional Irish priest, episode 1 of 8.

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 20 December 2016 12:03 (seven years ago) link

sorry to hear that lg. weirdness sounds the worst part of it

loudmouth darraghmac ween (darraghmac), Tuesday, 20 December 2016 12:35 (seven years ago) link

as i say, i'm in no position for a poor mouth story, i'm lucky enough that there are lots of things on the table elsewhere, it prob means i can take a few weeks and go on holiday between roles, but it's just the general sense that all the work i put in meant nothing - leaves a sour taste. sometimes i wonder if the fact i was progressing and learning a lot is the reason i was let go. like a wing clip.

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 20 December 2016 13:05 (seven years ago) link

That's really shitty LG. Wonder if they had to prove costcutting after you'd done all the work?

kinder, Tuesday, 20 December 2016 13:13 (seven years ago) link

Contracting/temping is so sucky. My bf has been working temp at a company for about a year (mostly but not always full time). They didnt invite him to the Xmas party - but they made him design the fucking invites for the Xmas party.

They didnt include him in the end of year newsletter either, everyone else in his team was featured in a column but not him.

Oh that newsletter was designed by him as well btw.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Wednesday, 21 December 2016 03:54 (seven years ago) link

that kind of thing is shit. our place makes a big song and dance about how contractors must be treated exactly the same as permanent staff etc, but it can't be that way. ultimately they want to nurture or promote the permanent people and not the contractors. if they had actually just given me an honest reason along these lines that would be fine.

i feel like i might have worked myself out of a job, like one thing i know is that i work unusually quickly, which probably means despite the fact i try to be communicative and inclusive etc, i usually end up feeling like there are too many people on the team or not enough work. that's a good thing overall but i dunno, maybe working ahead of the pace of an organisation isn't a good thing. i'm not saying this to big myself up, it's just a fact of my time there, it was like a running joke in the team. i guess having three people who work at the same pace and are happy to have long periods of boredom might function better and might mean all three are learning.

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 21 December 2016 09:07 (seven years ago) link

Not stupid or annoying, exactly, but the two most boring dudes in my office just had a conversation about the minute particulars of beard maintenance, and I realized that my personal hell will be those five minutes on a loop for all eternity.

Froyo On My Slacks (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 21 December 2016 13:12 (seven years ago) link

LG, let them know how much money they are saving by assigning work to you vs others.

Al Moon Faced Poon (Moodles), Wednesday, 21 December 2016 15:28 (seven years ago) link

Our Holiday party is later today, and already the catty retired assholes are showing up in my office to talk a bunch of shit.

duped and used by my worst Miss U (President Keyes), Wednesday, 21 December 2016 15:36 (seven years ago) link

I am one half of a two-person IT dept for an office of abt 55-60 and there is one person who drives me CRAZY. She is constantly in a rush, can do nothing for herself, routinely emails the wrong people for help (and communicates exclusively in breathless sentence fragments devoid of punctuation or details), has ZERO info retention and needs to be told the same thing repeatedly. All of this is manageable, but she is also v selfish and asks for special favors constantly, or asks other people to go out of their way for her own convenience. I have emailed her a PDF of how to install Office on her home computer THREE TIMES because she can't be bothered to search her inbox. She asks to borrow equipment that she already has but doesn't feel like carrying around with her (also lmao she prefaces these requests with "I know I'm being selfish, but..." as if this absolves her of her selfishness!). She also has zero respect for our time, and cancels or last-minute-postpones more than half of meetings she sets up with us. Yesterday, she showed up to an already-pushed-back meeting 15 minutes late (of c with her freshly purchased Starbucks and tons of apologies) without letting us know she was running late and without the information I'd asked her to bring. The irony is that her time is INVALUABLE and trying to pin her down to help her with something she needs help with usu means scheduling a 15 minute meeting 3 fucking weeks in advance. Which will inevitably be canceled.

Also she talks and talks and talks and talks and it's like, if you'd stop blabbering in the hallway maybe we could find 15 minutes in your workday.

Also also she emailed me at 8am on a Saturday FREAKING OUT because her laptop didn't work. I told her to do a hard reset, which with our laptops requires holding down the power button for 15-20 seconds. She said she'd already tried it and it didn't work what can she do she needs to do so much work please help she doesn't know what to do!!!!!!!! 15 minutes I get an email saying she fixed it by doing it a second time by holding the button down for 15-20 actual seconds instead of holding it down and hurriedly counting to 15.

Fluffy Saint-Bernard (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 21 December 2016 15:37 (seven years ago) link

the expense reporting system is beyond outdated and really not convenient for virtual people like without a fax machine. Whenever we file an expense report, they want us to file it online, then fax in a signed copy of the cover sheet with our receipts. Even though we are required to electronically sign our acknowledgment prior to transmitting the report (making the signed page moot). For those of us who are virtual with no fax machine, oh, they are kind enough to give us the alternative of mailing in the receipts. If we try and slide by and email the receipts to the mailbox, they....just fax our email to the fax number, instead of processing it, and half the time it gets delayed.

we give the customers we service numerous methods to upload their supporting documentation in a variety of ways but for actual employees, nope, it's still fax or mail. normally I just use one of those freebie fax services online but it's a pain and sometimes they don't work right, and this month has been especially a pain given how busy I've been.

Neanderthal, Friday, 23 December 2016 00:15 (seven years ago) link

day before holiday hoping to be let off early, fucking boss peaces out at 4 with a sob story about how hard it is to get approval for early closing

and yet middle manager under him got an early close for us on thanksgiving no worries. *shrug*

ended up leaving right behind anyway. said fuckit & took pto bcz fuuuuuuck this stupid place

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 23 December 2016 02:49 (seven years ago) link

that's the spirit! frck em

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Friday, 23 December 2016 02:53 (seven years ago) link

There were so many dogs in the office today. So many dogs.

One woman is foster parent for dogs. She brought, like, four of them today.

You all love dogs. I love dogs. But having a dozen dogs running through the office, occasionally sparring with one another, occasionally nipping at your heels as you carry a paper bowl full of Stouffers Three-Cheese Ziti back to your desk... it gets really, really old.

pplains, Friday, 23 December 2016 03:13 (seven years ago) link

pplains i would go insane idk how you even deal w that

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 23 December 2016 03:20 (seven years ago) link

The kids came up for a couple of hours while sunny and grandma went shopping. The boy comes up to my desk and says a dog kinda nipped his leg in the hallway.

We roll up his pant leg. No marks. No bruising. No cuts. He says it doesn't really hurt, but I can tell it scared him a little. Someone must've caught wind of it because a little bit later, the president/gm stops by and asks if the boy's ok.

So now I think I've got this plan to make a million dollars AND get rid of all the dogs. All I gotta sacrifice is my boy's health for a few months, and oh yeah, not reveal my plans on a public internet messageboard.

pplains, Friday, 23 December 2016 03:47 (seven years ago) link

See that fucker on the bottom left? Followed his owner into the bathroom recently and poked its little pointy head under the door while I was sitting there.

http://i.imgur.com/XRhn0kU.jpg

pplains, Friday, 23 December 2016 03:50 (seven years ago) link

sue them purple

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 23 December 2016 04:48 (seven years ago) link

kids say the darndest things witness stand special edition

estela, Friday, 23 December 2016 04:53 (seven years ago) link

^^^ ding ding ding

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 23 December 2016 05:00 (seven years ago) link

that does look like a bitey little fucker

I am fine with coworkers dropping by with family members, kids, and have friends who have had workplaces with a "dogs at work" day which seems... ok in theory

But one friend, she told me after the dog day (this was her prior workplace) they had a client meeting in a meeting room that no one had been in for a few days, and right before the meeting started they realized there was a dog shit right in the middle of the room. Because some sneaky dog had ran in and dropped a deuce yesterday.

mh 😏, Friday, 23 December 2016 05:08 (seven years ago) link

wow can't believe dogs are living things that sometimes do inconveniences and aren't just like animated stuffed animals

Fluffy Saint-Bernard (Stevie D(eux)), Friday, 23 December 2016 13:59 (seven years ago) link

Take it to the children vs animals thread

a Warren Beatty film about Earth (El Tomboto), Friday, 23 December 2016 14:02 (seven years ago) link

it's a calm place where we discuss this matter.

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Friday, 23 December 2016 14:22 (seven years ago) link

wow can't believe dogs are living things that sometimes do inconveniences and aren't just like animated stuffed animals

― Fluffy Saint-Bernard (Stevie D(eux)), Friday, December 23, 2016 1:59 PM (twenty-three minutes ago)

Thing is, in these situations it seems more like the owners believe they're animated stuffed animals, and thus when they're in the workplace it'll just be *cute* and *fun*. The people complaining are very aware that they're living things, and therefore realise that a herd of them probably shouldn't be in the workplace.

I like workplace animals (particularly shop cats), but surely anyone with any sense would realise that allowing *every* dog owner to bring in their pets is a recipe for disaster.

emil.y, Friday, 23 December 2016 14:29 (seven years ago) link

exactly

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 23 December 2016 16:36 (seven years ago) link

lol yeah give every dog a day, that way everyone in the office has an opportunity to appreciate the good dog of the day

if all the dogs are there at once how are the dogs to feel special

mh 😏, Friday, 23 December 2016 18:17 (seven years ago) link

This is crazytown, dogs don't belong in a white collar workplace. Do you work with school kids who think this is okay--do you have soda pop coming out of your drinking fountains too?

Dan I., Tuesday, 27 December 2016 05:19 (seven years ago) link

the only dog I ever saw in my office in ten plus years was a service dog that belonged to a blind employee, pretty sure if anybody tried to bring a non-service dog into the office security would tell them to walk their happy asses back to the car.

forget dog poop, we had enough issues with the human kind, including an employee who one day, for some reason, felt compelled to smear their feces on several lunch containers in one of the break room refrigerators.

Neanderthal, Tuesday, 27 December 2016 05:31 (seven years ago) link

weird i came here to vent about someone, and the someone brings their dog in! i'm actually fine with it but somehow i wind up with the kurmudgeonly boss role. it's just when i'm wearing the nice clothes...

ok so my venting is fairly limited: the person is just kinda full of himself. like kindof a smartass. it irritates me! and what gets me into trouble is that i play dumb sometimes as like a general habit. but it's not a good dynamic esp when i'm supposed to be in charge.

nbd, it's gotten better lately as i've clocked it; he responds better to a businesslike candor in the ofc whereas with the girls, we just gab gab gab etc.

surm, Tuesday, 27 December 2016 16:17 (seven years ago) link

sorry *ofc=office

surm, Tuesday, 27 December 2016 16:17 (seven years ago) link

he's out today but i'm READY FOR HIM WHEN HE GETS BACK

surm, Friday, 30 December 2016 15:16 (seven years ago) link

one of my clients said something "didn't pass mustard" today

. . .

Neanderthal, Monday, 9 January 2017 18:16 (seven years ago) link

rude

duped and used by my worst Miss U (President Keyes), Monday, 9 January 2017 18:17 (seven years ago) link

https://media1.giphy.com/media/qegqatEZkOUeI/200.gif

mookieproof, Monday, 9 January 2017 18:21 (seven years ago) link

Passing mustard sounds painful.

Dr. Shitfuck (Old Lunch), Monday, 9 January 2017 18:25 (seven years ago) link

When you pass mustard, it's the only time you can say to it, "Come on, ketchup!"

pplains, Monday, 9 January 2017 18:49 (seven years ago) link

and say it with relish

duped and used by my worst Miss U (President Keyes), Monday, 9 January 2017 19:16 (seven years ago) link

must ardently stop the urge

F♯ A♯ (∞), Monday, 9 January 2017 19:17 (seven years ago) link

been battling a co-worker for two months - we need her to review a series of documents purely from an accuracy standpoint before we send them for editorial review. first time around, the first two docs that come back with her feedback was like 10% accuracy, 90% structure. I reminded her that wasn't her job and to focus on just accuracy of the information and she went back to work.

she finishes, and now it's more like 2% accuracy 98% structure/format.

at least she's consistent

Neanderthal, Thursday, 12 January 2017 22:50 (seven years ago) link

omg

surm, Thursday, 12 January 2017 22:53 (seven years ago) link

i'm losing my patience

surm, Thursday, 12 January 2017 22:53 (seven years ago) link

with dog-person?

Neanderthal, Thursday, 12 January 2017 23:02 (seven years ago) link

rly dont understand why ppl that are sick as a dog decide to come into work anyway

especially when they can afford to take a day or two or three off

F♯ A♯ (∞), Thursday, 12 January 2017 23:47 (seven years ago) link

I have not seen daylight today and have spent 90% of my day staring at either spreadsheets or brakelights

kinder, Friday, 13 January 2017 00:11 (seven years ago) link

Plus some arsehole stole my milk from the office fridge

kinder, Friday, 13 January 2017 00:12 (seven years ago) link

three weeks pass...

The CEO of our company posted a message on the internal social network affirming that the company would support any colleagues affected by the US travel ban and we somehow now have people from the American side of the business arguing, in the comments, that Nelson Mandela killed more people than Apartheid.

Bubba H.O.T.A.P.E (ShariVari), Wednesday, 8 February 2017 08:20 (seven years ago) link

uggg

kinder, Wednesday, 8 February 2017 14:24 (seven years ago) link

Ha

Stupid annoying co-humans man

Betsy DeVos Ayes (darraghmac), Wednesday, 8 February 2017 15:00 (seven years ago) link

like, Mandela personally or...

mh 😏, Wednesday, 8 February 2017 15:03 (seven years ago) link

where were they radicalized?

goole, Wednesday, 8 February 2017 20:25 (seven years ago) link

He's a friend but my god this dude smacks his lips every two seconds on every call.

Neanderthal, Wednesday, 8 February 2017 23:34 (seven years ago) link

managers abruptly ripped me off my current project yesterday night and gave me a new temporary one with a whole bunch of assignments to be done by Monday or Tuesday, and all I got to work from was a 25 page document and some clumsily-assembled notes from a meeting. And the person in charge is out today. Had to eat half of today asking questions about the scope and requesting access to systems and trying to chart a course without much of a road map. And have people from my other project struggling to figure out how they're going to stay on schedule without me as it's a two-person job I just got yanked from.

totally need to quit the corporate world and become, like, a roadie or something.

Neanderthal, Friday, 17 February 2017 22:30 (seven years ago) link

Neanderthal, somewhere up the line from you is an executive feeling remarkably decisive and "nimble".

a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Friday, 17 February 2017 22:40 (seven years ago) link

yep but we just got bought so maybe he'll be a severanced Exec soon

Neanderthal, Saturday, 18 February 2017 00:30 (seven years ago) link

or maybe I will be! (well, the first part, not the Exec)

Neanderthal, Saturday, 18 February 2017 00:31 (seven years ago) link

...and found out the premise upon which I had been operating for this project, which had been provided to me on Friday, was completely false. made my first deadline but had to re-do everything I did today. tomorrow there's another deadline and I have yet to receive but one of like ten things I requested and needed. was also told there would be models I could build from only to be told today oops, there actually aren't.

getting ready to Alan Smithee this thing.

waht, I am true black metal worrior (Neanderthal), Monday, 20 February 2017 23:00 (seven years ago) link

Neanderthal, somewhere up the line from you is an executive feeling remarkably decisive and "nimble".

Haw

It's always (sunny successor), Tuesday, 21 February 2017 14:32 (seven years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/3FbMWNH.jpg

pplains, Thursday, 2 March 2017 02:27 (seven years ago) link

Not my office, but the fine facilities of Kurgo- maker of dog products.

pplains, Thursday, 2 March 2017 02:28 (seven years ago) link

But this one could be my office, especially on Fridays.

http://i.imgur.com/UvDCn53.jpg?1

Drives me bonkers.

pplains, Thursday, 2 March 2017 02:30 (seven years ago) link

yesterday i was unable to board a subway train because someone, at rush hour, was transporting their enormous dog, in a crate, on a trolley

mookieproof, Thursday, 2 March 2017 02:47 (seven years ago) link

pplains, stay strong

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 2 March 2017 04:35 (seven years ago) link

so that project I talked about above appeared to be going fine and today we're live. client decides NINETY MINUTES prior to opening to change the rules of engagement completely, demanding we go over all these things we didn't train on and do these things not even remotely in the contract. Idiot account Exec inexplicably AGREES to this shit without talking to anybody and then nobody forwards the instructions to us UNTIL AFTER WE WERE OPEN.

they scheduled an emergency meeting when we said "what the fuck" and I refused to do the work requested and said they needed to take it back to the client. Which they did, and at 2:30 I was told "sorry, they still want us to do this".

then I waited another 4 hours before I did it because I realized that it takes a Herculean effort to get fired these days and I just got the highest evaluation possible on my annual review so...fuck it

waht, I am true black metal worrior (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 8 March 2017 00:48 (seven years ago) link

and on top of that Tijuana Flats got my UberEats order wrong AGAIN!1!!!!!! fukk uuuu

waht, I am true black metal worrior (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 8 March 2017 00:49 (seven years ago) link

When co-workers come up behind you and whisper. I mean, there's literally nothing you can tell me that's worth whispering for.

Carlotta's Portrait (Ross), Wednesday, 8 March 2017 01:02 (seven years ago) link

we used to have this one when I was an entry level rep who would show up at your desk and immediately start asking a question without even bothering to check if you were on a call. I eventually stopped signaling "on a call" at her and would just let her talk and then resume talking to my customer so she'd feel stupid.

then again this is the lady who actually said "well according to my records, your mom's dead. you might wanna talk to your father" to a customer so.....

waht, I am true black metal worrior (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 8 March 2017 01:13 (seven years ago) link

omg

I mean, if you want to rudely do a wicked own on your customer, I guess "you're mom's dead" is acceptable

mh 😏, Wednesday, 8 March 2017 04:48 (seven years ago) link

LOL that reminds me of when I worked for a govt dept I wont name. Part of our assessments involved reviewing birth certificates. Now in Victoria in the 60s and 70s, adopted kids had their real birth details hidden but the cert itself had a code on it that meant ADOPTED if you happened to know thats what it meant.

Work colleague looking over a 50something mans paperwork cheerily says "oh so you're adopted!" to him.

He had no idea and was understandably quite upset.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Wednesday, 8 March 2017 05:24 (seven years ago) link

that's like a comedy sketch about bureaucrats, just needs colleague saying "sir? sir??" because he's having a heart attack and can't respond

mh 😏, Wednesday, 8 March 2017 05:29 (seven years ago) link

hahaha Trayce

waht, I am true black metal worrior (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 8 March 2017 09:19 (seven years ago) link

omg!

kinder, Wednesday, 8 March 2017 14:32 (seven years ago) link

Jesus.

The Perks of Being a Wall St R (darraghmac), Wednesday, 8 March 2017 15:49 (seven years ago) link

holy shit

Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 8 March 2017 17:22 (seven years ago) link

"Hi Dad! or should I call you FAKE DAD! WHY DIDN'T YOU TELL ME?"

waht, I am true black metal worrior (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 8 March 2017 17:38 (seven years ago) link

Tbf, him being in his 50s, good chance he's already an orphan one or the other anyway.

pplains, Wednesday, 8 March 2017 18:30 (seven years ago) link

O.M.G.

A manager sent out an email to everyone a little bit ago commemorating International Women's Day. Someone I work with who is kind of consistently a pain in the ass apparently didn't realize she clicked 'Reply All' when she responded: 'I’ll show my husband my b o o b s when I get home!'

The twin snake of violence and sex is more like a sick wolf. (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 8 March 2017 20:01 (seven years ago) link

Looooooool!

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Wednesday, 8 March 2017 20:11 (seven years ago) link

(I should note that one of the ways in which she's a pain in the ass is her inability to retain any pertinent work-related info no matter how many times it's reiterated. Such as, 'PLEASE STOP CLICKING 'REPLY ALL' WHEN YOU RESPOND TO DEPARTMENT-/COMPANY-WIDE EMAILS'. One hopes that she might have learned the lesson this time 'round.)

The twin snake of violence and sex is more like a sick wolf. (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 8 March 2017 20:21 (seven years ago) link

we've had our server go down when some idiot emails the entire firm about something because then 3,000 people start replying "take me off of this email chain" while replying all, then another 3,000 ironically write "PLEASE STOP REPLYING ALL" while replying all

waht, I am true black metal worrior (Neanderthal), Thursday, 9 March 2017 00:28 (seven years ago) link

Yeah, that happens about every three weeks or so in my workplace. And it's usually the same folks hitting 'reply all' every time it happens. I don't know how some of these people manage to feed themselves.

The twin snake of violence and sex is more like a sick wolf. (Old Lunch), Thursday, 9 March 2017 00:34 (seven years ago) link

one of the times it happened it gave way to a really stupid urban legend that still goes around here.

so one guy basically gets sick of the 3 million emails, replies and basically calls everybody who was replying all "idiots" in the thread. and then people were talking about that and someone out of curiosity looked in our company director. He saw a guy who had the same first and last name (but with 2 minutes of research, was quite obviously not the same guy) and saw "terminated" next to his name, and starts a rumor that spreads like wildfire that the dude was fired for calling everybody idiots. It still gets brought up any time someone sends a snippy email ("careful - you don't wanna get fired like that guy who called everybody 'idiots').

waht, I am true black metal worrior (Neanderthal), Thursday, 9 March 2017 00:41 (seven years ago) link

*directory

waht, I am true black metal worrior (Neanderthal), Thursday, 9 March 2017 00:41 (seven years ago) link

i reply-all-ed once, died on the spot & immediately moved my reply-all icon to the other side of my toolbar so i wouldnt do it ever again

Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 9 March 2017 00:51 (seven years ago) link

I insulted my ex-boss to another colleague of mine once on instant messaging while we were in a meeting with him. forgetting I was sharing my screen at the time with him.

fuck him though

waht, I am true black metal worrior (Neanderthal), Thursday, 9 March 2017 01:08 (seven years ago) link

My coworker was asking me what my dreams were. Um, nothing I feel like sharing at work???

tokyo rosemary, Thursday, 9 March 2017 02:07 (seven years ago) link

One of the first questions the new security guard asked me was "where does your boyfriend work?" Um.

tokyo rosemary, Thursday, 9 March 2017 02:10 (seven years ago) link

I guess people I work with make me say "um" a lot.

tokyo rosemary, Thursday, 9 March 2017 02:10 (seven years ago) link

xpost WTF?

waht, I am true black metal worrior (Neanderthal), Thursday, 9 March 2017 02:35 (seven years ago) link

IME it's not really worth sharing too much with co-workers, at least at my job it feels like it could be used against me later on

Carlotta's Portrait (Ross), Thursday, 9 March 2017 02:40 (seven years ago) link

I'm one of those people who draws a hard line between work and my outside life though, and I've rarely hung out with anyone here outside of work

Carlotta's Portrait (Ross), Thursday, 9 March 2017 02:40 (seven years ago) link

Yep same.

Never ever ever anything ever add workmates to bookface or twitter
Next to never socialise with em out of hours (tho tbf I have done in past jobs)
Esp avoid getting mad drunk in front of workmates. Even though I'm a big drinker! Or perhaps especially because, haw.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Thursday, 9 March 2017 03:07 (seven years ago) link

I was typically like that in the first half of my career. One of my best friends is someone I met at work ten years ago, but other than him, was very much separation of church and state. when I joined my new department 6 years ago though, I kind of caved because it's more of a tightknit environment and I let my guard down a little.

I have several of them, including the head of my dept as FB friends, but they're all filtered to a Friend list I've marked "exclusions" that I block from seeing all posts, so they can't see anything I post, other than Profile photo and cover photo updates (and the drunken video of me seeing Mayhem that I accidentally made Public).

i won't even list the company I work for on Facebook anymore.

waht, I am true black metal worrior (Neanderthal), Thursday, 9 March 2017 03:16 (seven years ago) link

I got tagged with 100 of my co-workers, past and present, to a Facebook post that said "HERE'S US ON CAKE DAY!" and it was a video clip of Forrest Gump running down a dirt road.

pplains, Thursday, 9 March 2017 03:29 (seven years ago) link

but they're all filtered to a Friend list I've marked "exclusions" that I block from seeing all posts, so they can't see anything I post

Really whats the point of friending someone then, I say?

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Thursday, 9 March 2017 04:27 (seven years ago) link

(I should practice what I preach and defriend the people i unfollowed a jillion years ago)

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Thursday, 9 March 2017 04:27 (seven years ago) link

it was them that friended me, I didn't want to hurt anybody's feewings

waht, I am true black metal worrior (Neanderthal), Thursday, 9 March 2017 04:29 (seven years ago) link

I wanted to say I don't have any dreams because I'm dead inside but I didn't think that would go over too well.

tokyo rosemary, Thursday, 9 March 2017 04:50 (seven years ago) link

"last night I dreamed...somebody loved me..."

waht, I am true black metal worrior (Neanderthal), Thursday, 9 March 2017 04:52 (seven years ago) link

told the person that is supposed to be taking over this project for me that I would be in mandatory manager training today and tomorrow, and asked her to handle tasks in my absence.

about 4-5 requests came in today addressed to us both, she didn't touch a goddamn one of them. Nice unexpected 2.5 hours of work for me (of course, there shouldn't be 4-5 last minute urgent requests coming in either, but that's another story)

waht, I am true black metal worrior (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 14 March 2017 00:16 (seven years ago) link

i work in an "agile team" which many of you may know is full of snakeoil and bs but the "standup" meeting in which everyone stands each morning and says what they did the day before and what they're doing this day can be excruciating. i think the point is that because you're standing you spend less time, but ime some people have no self-awareness about the stuff they're saying or the relevance of it to everyone else, or they lack the ability to clearly communicate a few tasks that might be of interest, so you get like an unedited story of their day, while you stand. it is really tiresome at times in my new job.

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Friday, 17 March 2017 10:46 (seven years ago) link

It's entirely built in unfortunately

Schoolchildren stuff but pays the bills

brat_stuntin (darraghmac), Friday, 17 March 2017 10:48 (seven years ago) link

glad to hear it's in ireland also.

i've worked in teams where any diversion would be hurried on, in a way that was polite and just a fact of the meeting. people would just laugh if they were told to save it for a conversation after the meeting. i guess it's just a matter of a good culture. some places have it, some places don't. all good people in my new place but just more problems generally about culture as it's more distinctly civil service than my last place. there's a sort of faffing politeness about the british civil service, as you'd expect.

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Friday, 17 March 2017 11:01 (seven years ago) link

Over here the politeness ain't a necessity

brat_stuntin (darraghmac), Friday, 17 March 2017 11:16 (seven years ago) link

we had a 1 minute 'hourglass' in our scrums. but we also had 20 people in them...

koogs, Friday, 17 March 2017 11:47 (seven years ago) link

a weird, young security zealot arrives in the evening and sits near me watching wrestling videos & trump propaganda loudly on his phone. i try not to engage, but he seems to have decided that i'm his friend and is persistently chatty. lately, he's taken to expressing his vaguely lewd appreciation of certain female staff members & students as they pass by our vicinity. i get the sense that this is for my benefit, an attempt at "male bonding". all of which i've mentioned to my boss, who shrugged it off :/

The sandwiches looked quite dank. (contenderizer), Friday, 17 March 2017 11:51 (seven years ago) link

Saying "excuse me, I have to get back to work" in a bright cheery tone has worked wonders for me over the years.

well the bitter comes out better on a stolen Switch cartridge (snoball), Friday, 17 March 2017 11:56 (seven years ago) link

Security zealot shouldn't be watching anything except the office. I'd be tempted to reprimand him for a lack of professionalism.

syzygy stardust (suzy), Friday, 17 March 2017 12:37 (seven years ago) link

Wacky office Irish guy walking around in giant Irish flag plus matching wig

Chuck_Tatum, Friday, 17 March 2017 14:14 (seven years ago) link

Now he's wearing a giant green bowtie semi-ironically chanting "Let's get drunk, let's get drunk"

Chuck_Tatum, Friday, 17 March 2017 14:14 (seven years ago) link

Now he's hanging the flag from the ceiling and drawing a crowd

Chuck_Tatum, Friday, 17 March 2017 14:16 (seven years ago) link

Send death squad plz. Take me, take him, I don't care which

Chuck_Tatum, Friday, 17 March 2017 14:16 (seven years ago) link

Irish or "Irish"

brat_stuntin (darraghmac), Friday, 17 March 2017 15:13 (seven years ago) link

hmm i wonder

not even my mate ross king sniffed out this hot gossip (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 17 March 2017 15:23 (seven years ago) link

oirish

mh 😏, Friday, 17 March 2017 15:25 (seven years ago) link

He's from Dublin and likes writing wacky reviews on Amazon, which he shares with us on Slack

Chuck_Tatum, Friday, 17 March 2017 15:33 (seven years ago) link

it me

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Friday, 17 March 2017 15:35 (seven years ago) link

busted

Neil S, Friday, 17 March 2017 15:37 (seven years ago) link

for reference: The Reinforcin' O' The Stereotypes

Neil S, Friday, 17 March 2017 15:37 (seven years ago) link

He's from Dublin and likes writing wacky reviews on Amazon, which he shares with us on Slack

jesus god this guy sounds like a monster

not even my mate ross king sniffed out this hot gossip (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 17 March 2017 15:38 (seven years ago) link

Yeah no arguments carry on

brat_stuntin (darraghmac), Friday, 17 March 2017 15:41 (seven years ago) link

colleague just came around the desk to show me a "prototype" he's made for putting a wardrobe in his house. like some string that showed where the wardrobe would be. as he came around i sort of thought "please no it's 4 o'clock i have a hangover, please be going elsewhere" but i couldn't have prepared myself for a story that was so hard to respond to with the straight bat of a smile.

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Friday, 17 March 2017 16:13 (seven years ago) link

my eyes were having none of it - entirely dead as i gazed up trying to nod enthusiastically.

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Friday, 17 March 2017 16:14 (seven years ago) link

like some string that showed where the wardrobe would be

Retaliate by giving him a one hour lecture on Visio.

well the bitter comes out better on a stolen Switch cartridge (snoball), Friday, 17 March 2017 16:17 (seven years ago) link

wow a prototype for a wardrobe made of string. jesus.

Islamic State of Mind (jim in vancouver), Friday, 17 March 2017 16:18 (seven years ago) link

it was like, just some string that showed where the wardrobe would be. he said "until you do this you just have no idea of what it'll be like to have a wardrobe there" - it seemed to me given there's nothing inside the borders of the string you still have no idea but i didn't want to ruin the lifehack.

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Friday, 17 March 2017 16:19 (seven years ago) link

"until you do this you just have no idea of what it'll be like to have a wardrobe there"

bwaahaha

Islamic State of Mind (jim in vancouver), Friday, 17 March 2017 16:20 (seven years ago) link

no part of that story seems like relatable human behaviour

srsly wtf is going on with that guy

not even my mate ross king sniffed out this hot gossip (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 17 March 2017 16:20 (seven years ago) link

send him the link to google sketchup and tell him real men 3d model the interiors of their homes

mh 😏, Friday, 17 March 2017 16:20 (seven years ago) link

one weird trick to get an idea of what it'll be like to have a wardrobe there

not even my mate ross king sniffed out this hot gossip (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 17 March 2017 16:21 (seven years ago) link

interior designers hate him!

not even my mate ross king sniffed out this hot gossip (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 17 March 2017 16:21 (seven years ago) link

i feel like i meet people like this all the time in my working life, especially since i've got more into digital service design. like i guess it's techno utopianism in a way, with a bit of lifehacking thrown in. the guy is an interaction designer - i guess often they try to bring the logic of their work into their home lives or something.

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Friday, 17 March 2017 16:23 (seven years ago) link

today our client comes raging about an escalation and of course I got asked matter of factly by an exec "Neanderthal, did you train the reps on these types of calls?".

Would that be the same "types of calls" that our client asked us to handle less than a fucking hour prior to the grand opening (one full week AFTER training) that you inexplicably agreed to (despite it being well outside the sphere of the contract) and despite TWO OF US LOUDLY PROTESTING TO YOU THAT SOMETHING LIKE THIS WOULD HAPPEN IF YOU AGREED TO IT?

waht, I am true black metal worrior (Neanderthal), Saturday, 18 March 2017 03:06 (seven years ago) link

humorously enough though I got an award for my work on the project just a day earlier, lol

waht, I am true black metal worrior (Neanderthal), Saturday, 18 March 2017 03:06 (seven years ago) link

I think the best part of every story on this thread is when bosses and coworkers use your ilx handles to address everyone

SFTGFOP (El Tomboto), Saturday, 18 March 2017 13:26 (seven years ago) link

excuse me, Neanderthal is my gov't name

waht, I am true black metal worrior (Neanderthal), Saturday, 18 March 2017 14:16 (seven years ago) link

same piece of string guy i mentioned upthread keeps like tapping me on the shoulder etc. this morning i was waiting for the lift and i got this jab on the arm, i didn't even respond i just looked at him and he was like "good morning!"

what a fucking weirdo. it's not even like football jock jabbing, just some bizarre attempt at camaraderie.

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Friday, 24 March 2017 09:59 (seven years ago) link

anyone who touches me in the office is getting fucking lamped tbh

physicist and christian lambert dolphin (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 24 March 2017 11:32 (seven years ago) link

he did it again like five mins later, tapped me on the shoulder vigorously. anyone knows you do the whole handwave thing if someone has headphones in.

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Friday, 24 March 2017 11:42 (seven years ago) link

bizarro otm

Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 24 March 2017 15:43 (seven years ago) link

he's about to go now i think, i took my headphones off because i honestly think if i don't i'll get a third tap o' the day.

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Friday, 24 March 2017 17:00 (seven years ago) link

has also impersonated my accent two/three times in the two or so weeks i've worked with him.

it is v strange, all these things together and you might think he's some sort of obnoxious alpha male, the reverse is true, i think he is doing these strange things as some effort of shared masculinity or something. he's not a particularly bad guy, but extremely annoying.

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Friday, 24 March 2017 17:01 (seven years ago) link

oh god the accent thing.

bomb diggy diggy diggy bomb diggy bomb (jim in vancouver), Friday, 24 March 2017 17:04 (seven years ago) link

he said "i'll be flying *ROYANAIR*" in one of those horrendous attempts at irish accents that english people do.

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Friday, 24 March 2017 17:05 (seven years ago) link

i was tweeting about this but it is bizarre to me that somebody might somehow think "he's irish, he's going to love this one! it's ME doing HIS accent!!"

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Friday, 24 March 2017 17:06 (seven years ago) link

my boss and another coworker incessantly do impressions of a handful of coworkers & i hate it so much

Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 24 March 2017 17:23 (seven years ago) link

i was tweeting about this but it is bizarre to me that somebody might somehow think "he's irish, he's going to love this one! it's ME doing HIS accent!!"

― Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Friday, March 24, 2017 10:06 AM (nineteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this happens to me a bit but not very often. i think this has to do with the fact that I'm scottish rather than irish - people seem to find doing the irish accent much more hilarious, for whatever reason (WASP supremacists obv) - and live in canada rather than england.

bomb diggy diggy diggy bomb diggy bomb (jim in vancouver), Friday, 24 March 2017 17:29 (seven years ago) link

altho because I'm from the west of scotland and my accent doesn't really correspond to groundskeeper willie or whatever people are constantly asking me where in ireland I'm from

bomb diggy diggy diggy bomb diggy bomb (jim in vancouver), Friday, 24 March 2017 17:30 (seven years ago) link

OMG imitating peoples accents is just so offensive. I used to work next to a call centre where I'd hear one guy on the phones constantly veer into different vague, terrible accents, then realised it was because he couldnt help it: he'd just echo whoever he was speaking to and unconciously talk like them.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Monday, 27 March 2017 00:41 (seven years ago) link

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communication_accommodation_theory

Linguistic accommodation is real - I had to teach myself to stop doing it

Not the real Tombot (El Tomboto), Monday, 27 March 2017 01:18 (seven years ago) link

I'm an Australian too (hi VG) but I find people trying to do an Aussie accent genuinely hilarious. Particularly people from Kiwi or Japanese backgrounds, I've noticed. North Americans aren't close enough to be funny (although I know a Canadian who nails it).

attention vampire (MatthewK), Monday, 27 March 2017 02:00 (seven years ago) link

ha yeah whenever I hear anyone do an aus accent *well* I am always really blindsided. Cant think of any examples.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Monday, 27 March 2017 02:10 (seven years ago) link

Matt Gourley from Superego does a dece aussie accent. he was in the running behind Jemaine Clement to do the Outback Steakhouse commercials

Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 27 March 2017 02:37 (seven years ago) link

tbh you know you are american but pay too much attention when you're like "hmm that is a new zealander trying to pull off australian"

I can do canadian pronunciations of things for about two weeks after being in canada due to osmosis, but I lose it rapidly

mh 😏, Monday, 27 March 2017 03:03 (seven years ago) link

So, what - does Clement make his accent sound more evil or something?

pplains, Monday, 27 March 2017 13:31 (seven years ago) link

I was kinda the same way back in my radio days - I'd try to get all my voiceover production done first before going into the studio and taking calls from Arkansas Razorback fans for three hours.

pplains, Monday, 27 March 2017 13:33 (seven years ago) link

nope, you don't get to ask why I'm behind on another assignment when you forced me to shoulder a 2nd one when I already barely had time to do the 1st (despite my protests) and then demanded I be on it two weeks longer than initially promised.

Neanderthal, Monday, 27 March 2017 16:34 (seven years ago) link

also can we retire "the problem is YOU'RE TOO GOOD" as a reason for someone being given so much extra work, it's cloying and doesn't make it less frustrating.

Neanderthal, Monday, 27 March 2017 16:34 (seven years ago) link

"ok, I'll start doing a halfassed job then?"

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Monday, 27 March 2017 23:21 (seven years ago) link

haha that was my comment to some of my friends - "is this my incentive to start screwing shit up"?

Neanderthal, Monday, 27 March 2017 23:28 (seven years ago) link

Dispiriting when half-assedness is the general norm in a workplace, and simply doing your job is somehow seen as going above and beyond.

wtev, Tuesday, 28 March 2017 05:39 (seven years ago) link

I'd say it's bloody great tbh

The night before all about day (darraghmac), Tuesday, 28 March 2017 08:50 (seven years ago) link

if we're gonna bring the system down from within then apathy is a key tactic

millwallreptile (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 28 March 2017 08:55 (seven years ago) link

enh i can't be bothered to bring the system down tbh

tony orlandoni, cheese engineer (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 28 March 2017 09:50 (seven years ago) link

I have new workplace, which brings with it a lot of new smart people with no common sense. Don't scrum in the gangways, don't leave just a tiny gap so that, say, someone coming back from the kitchen carrying a cup of water is tempted to squeeze through it but only succeeds in knocking over the nearby coatstand which is laden with about 300 coats.

(I caught it before it got much beyond 10 degrees from vertical but not without losing some of the water all over them and me)

koogs, Tuesday, 28 March 2017 10:53 (seven years ago) link

i've definitely felt in some jobs that doing less would be better and would make it easier for a lot of people around me - but since it's contract work for the state i can't really acquiesce. it's never been an issue though as far as getting extra work goes. in my last job my constant asking/begging/pleading for more work became a subject of gentle mockery after a while. deems prob otm overall though.

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 28 March 2017 13:24 (seven years ago) link

like i mean i've never been given extra work or overloaded no matter how much i asked - it's like the concept of producing good work quickly and regularly is banned. fuck it tho, i'm happy to swim against that system and have that as my reputation...

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 28 March 2017 13:26 (seven years ago) link

the thing that frustrates me is that when it's slow I actually do the same (request extra work) because I hate being bored and trying to fill time, and usually they comply and then I'm good to go. you'd think that'd be enough that they would return the favor and give the project I don't have time to do to somebody else but they like giving me the "hard ones" even though there are plenty of other capable people on the team who probably wonder "why am I not good enough to get it?" each time they get passed over.

I asked my boss (who I do like a lot, mind you) re: this project, what would happen if I got flattened by a bus tomorrow, and he paused and said "...they'd get by". so I'm like - "well then, let's have them pretend this happened starting tomorrow then".

Neanderthal, Tuesday, 28 March 2017 14:56 (seven years ago) link

I hate being bored and trying to fill time

isn't that what ilx is for

tony orlandoni, cheese engineer (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 28 March 2017 15:04 (seven years ago) link

dunno if you ever entirely win if you're doing more than the ambient level of work. teams should be naturally balanced by ability tho they seldom are ime. and the idea others can't do certain work is just bs.

i had a job before were doing environmental/farming government content and things like "how to take your dog on holiday" would be given to somebody who couldn't really do the job, while "how to dispose of f-gas" or something would go to one of the people who were good at understanding hard concepts and putting them into plain english.

thousands of people needed to read the dog holiday piece and a tiny few would read about how to dispose of f-gas. but since both had to be done they ended up passing the difficult one to the person who'll actually complete something at the end rather than being suffocated by the gassy fumes. but the more important piece was still the dog one, and a brilliant dog piece was still infinitely more important than a passable one on the gas, no pun intended.

bit industry-specific there but my exp of having that "if i got hit by a bus tomorrow" feeling is that even if everyone knows it's true it's really hard to get any value out of it or cause change by pointing to it. they might realise that when you leave or else things will just get worse, they may not even notice imo. i've worked in a few places where the atmos and morale and standard went off a cliff and i've never seen anyone do anything about it - i just left in the end. it's hard to build a good atmosphere and so easy to lose one.

tldr my entire belief system

xpost btw being bored and having to fill time is the worst possible thing at work. it's exhausting. i am far, far less tired after a busy day than after a day flicking between tabs.

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 28 March 2017 15:10 (seven years ago) link

it's like the concept of producing good work quickly and regularly is banned. fuck it tho, i'm happy to swim against that system and have that as my reputation...

OTM. This is what I was trying to say earlier but I was too half-assed.

wtev, Tuesday, 28 March 2017 15:33 (seven years ago) link

isn't that what ilx is for

mannnnn then that becomes a habit I can't break when I *am* busy!

Neanderthal, Tuesday, 28 March 2017 15:51 (seven years ago) link

yeah, imo if you're the guy who can do the higher-level tasks, you're either going to pick up the smallest things as time fillers so that you can jump on the important work, or something that can be delegated if something more important comes up

if you're really important or can get people to think you are, you can fill time between monumental tasks by honing your craft and reading up on the topic or proposing pilot projects

mh 😏, Tuesday, 28 March 2017 15:51 (seven years ago) link

or posting to ilx, that is also a good filler between monumental tasks

mh 😏, Tuesday, 28 March 2017 15:51 (seven years ago) link

I will say I haven't had a "non-busy" time in about six months, so it's starting to become a problem I wish I had again.

(I realize I'm undermining my argument by posting here during work hours) ;)

Neanderthal, Tuesday, 28 March 2017 15:53 (seven years ago) link

in May I will be traveling the entire month (though I'm one of the few on the team who doesn't have kids or isn't married so it's easier for me to get away and I kind of enjoy it)

Neanderthal, Tuesday, 28 March 2017 15:54 (seven years ago) link

yeah, imo if you're the guy who can do the higher-level tasks, you're either going to pick up the smallest things as time fillers so that you can jump on the important work, or something that can be delegated if something more important comes up

don't think i've seen it work this way. if there's an imbalance that stuff will go to the people who can't do the high-level stuff. i've seen managers try quite hard to create a good balance of duties, and like while i totally accept and embrace the idea that everyone has different skills and things to bring, it gets ridiculous - i've seen people who are supposed to be technically skilled contractors getting put in charge of booking meeting rooms or printing things out, the boss in question was good at doing that in a non-patronising way but it was a bit of a facepalm when you think the people are on big bucks.

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 28 March 2017 15:54 (seven years ago) link

like to me the team culture of everyone doing many things or dovetailing, or just genuinely great co-operative work, only really works when most/all people are able to do multiple things well, and happen to have expertise on top of that in one or two things, and can talk outside their discipline in a logical or questioning way about work another discipline has done.

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 28 March 2017 15:59 (seven years ago) link

oh, that is also most definitely a thing that happens

the most iffy thing I've witnessed, which is understandable but still was done completely haphazardly, was a reorganization of how project teams worked where people were just offered slots on teams

so each team needed a certain number of software developers, analysts, testers, software architects, etc with some people fulfilling that role across teams

they didn't have enough software architects so they just took the most talented young developers and threw them in those roles. no additional training :/

mh 😏, Tuesday, 28 March 2017 16:03 (seven years ago) link

there's real desperation about finding people to do some of the more modern roles, ime. like user researchers or whatever. my current org has a lot of people spread quite thinly - they are constantly begging me about whether i know people or not, it gets really awkward when someone you know but don't recommend is put forward, and they're so desperate to hire someone they really want you to endorse them, or to find a way to maybe ignore whatever you say unless it's like "they are not an actual person, they do not exist" or "they are a serial killer".

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 28 March 2017 16:09 (seven years ago) link

that's kind of an issue with the current ideas of job mobility and the impermanence of employment. i appreciate when my managers know they need a person to fulfill a role but draft job requirements that reflect those skills are rare but learnable. i'd rather we hire an intelligent, likeable person who is immediately sent to training upon hire than wait months only to get an overpriced contractor who has no engagement

mh 😏, Tuesday, 28 March 2017 16:19 (seven years ago) link

if we're gonna bring the system down from within then apathy is a key tactic

^this did most of the serious lifting in bringing down the USSR

a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Tuesday, 28 March 2017 16:50 (seven years ago) link

i'd rather we hire an intelligent, likeable person who is immediately sent to training upon hire than wait months only to get an overpriced contractor who has no engagemen

yeah, i mean i sort of think hiring graduates is the way past depending on contractors, but i am a contractor so... shrug. i think it's possible to make (some) contractors engaged by how you treat them though. i'm personally more motivated as a contractor than i was when i was permanent, the pay is better and the goals are much more clear.

i guess also sometimes there's not enough time to hire and train someone, but in government that's more a problem of how big projects comes to exist, ie by being thrown down from the mount when a politician makes a speech or someone powerful decides what the people need, as opposed to coming from the people and being built based on their needs.

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 28 March 2017 19:47 (seven years ago) link

So I'm not sure if I was the rude person here or he was, but theres this vaguely creepy new guy in accounts who seems quite socially awkward? He's come and sat near me several times now at lunch and not said anything, just... sat there looking at me expectantly.

I read at lunch ffs. So today I'm on my own in the lunch room, very obvioysly reading game of thrones on my kindle, and the fucker comes and sits right next to me (empty lunchroom. Plenty of seats and tables free!) and says hello. I politely reply, he asks how I'm doing and I say smalltalk things then apologise and say I'm reading.

The guy proceeds to stay sitting there looking at me. Doesnt touch or start opening/eating the lunch he has in front of him. Just ... sits there. Looking at me. Eventually I suppose he gets the hint, gets up and says "have a good day" and totters off elsewhere...

wtf man!?

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Wednesday, 29 March 2017 02:00 (seven years ago) link

there's no way that you're being rude in that scenario. It's ok every once in a while to plop down next to a stranger but usually it's preceded by a "mind if I join you?" first. and if someone is engrossed in an activity like reading, generally don't start forcing them to abandon it to acknowledge you.

Neanderthal, Wednesday, 29 March 2017 02:06 (seven years ago) link

like I've made friends of strangers in many a scenario work or outside life but there was always a request of permission proceeding things.

he probably doesn't know better as you suggested, maybe just needs a 'nudge' in the right direction.

Neanderthal, Wednesday, 29 March 2017 02:07 (seven years ago) link

Yeah I dont mind people sitting beside me and sharing a silent lunch munch and occasional mumble, but its the way he sort of sits there and does and says nothing. It was unsettling.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Wednesday, 29 March 2017 02:45 (seven years ago) link

Not in any "I am an axe murderer" way fwiw - more in a "i'm a lost puppydog and you are a lady type person who is nice" way. I AM TOOOOO OLD FOR THIS.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Wednesday, 29 March 2017 02:46 (seven years ago) link

enh i can't be bothered to bring the system down tbh

This is known as the "reverse Bartleby"

Moodles, Thursday, 30 March 2017 05:56 (seven years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C8HzUhyUAAAMcR0.jpg

not a coworker but just saw this on twitter from someone in my industry: "Sketch of my question about cultural friction between agile design teams and larger organisation they're working in"

great sketch, really says more than words ever could. maybe go see a doctor about that swollen bump.

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Thursday, 30 March 2017 12:37 (seven years ago) link

admittedly it's been a while since biology class but i think that might be a diagram of a cow's digestive system

either way it's bullshit

tony orlandoni, cheese engineer (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 30 March 2017 12:47 (seven years ago) link

i assume it's meant to be something like that, yeah. it's just more like "here's a sketch of how myopic and solipsistic my way of working is"

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Thursday, 30 March 2017 12:56 (seven years ago) link

pretty much

pitching agile as groundbreaking in 2017 is kind of something, even if it's an evolutionary methodology in theory

a landlocked exclave (mh 😏), Thursday, 30 March 2017 14:28 (seven years ago) link

it's a p shocking thing within government, like to government people. but i swear my feed sometimes is just full of people stating the total fucking obvious, because they're trying to impose sense on the madness of government. like "USE WORDS WHICH USERS UNDERSTAND!" and it's been retweeted 100 times solely by people who work in government or saw the speech or whatever. i appreciate the need to sell a political message but the absolute storm of truisms or incredibly obvious safe statements worded as if they're some sage advice does wear me down a bit, and the sense that those posting them feel like they are some kind of tech guru or whatever cos they go to a conference that has a hashtag.

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Thursday, 30 March 2017 14:34 (seven years ago) link

we have to put in place a very non-standard process for our current project. I'm not responsible for it, but it does directly affect us.

so the group responsible for developing the process, who has handled all of the communication around it and scheduled all of the preliminary meetings finally schedules one to show us what they've done thus far. Despite knowing about this since DECEMBER, they've barely even started. In 4 months all they managed was a very rough sketch with a ton of variables. When they asked for potential resources who might be able to help consult back in Dec, I gave them specific names of three or four people. Yesterday they told me they contacted precisely zero of them.

Oi.

Neanderthal, Thursday, 30 March 2017 15:13 (seven years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CTrGnZGUsAAeya3.png

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Thursday, 30 March 2017 22:51 (seven years ago) link

Lol <3

Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 30 March 2017 23:06 (seven years ago) link

I remember that diagram lg i think its the opening scene of look who's talking

virginity simple (darraghmac), Thursday, 30 March 2017 23:06 (seven years ago) link

lolz - i know the "point" of the picture is meant to be "let us inject more agile deep into this big organisational cow's stomach" but having been at the pub with a friend we confirmed it looks like "sir i'm afraid you have an agile way of working tumour extremely close to the testicle - we hope we can get rid of it all first go but we can't promise anything"

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Thursday, 30 March 2017 23:38 (seven years ago) link

Trayce you had me look that pic up and see it's tied to a television show. is Black Books worthwhile?

Neanderthal, Friday, 31 March 2017 03:26 (seven years ago) link

Hells yes.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Friday, 31 March 2017 05:34 (seven years ago) link

Its about a cantankerous drunk who runs a bookshop in London. It is hilarious.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Friday, 31 March 2017 05:35 (seven years ago) link

Cosign. It's the best

Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 31 March 2017 05:39 (seven years ago) link

It's rubbish

virginity simple (darraghmac), Friday, 31 March 2017 06:41 (seven years ago) link

YOURE rubbish

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Friday, 31 March 2017 08:18 (seven years ago) link

(It's endlessly repeated on London Live if that helps.)

koogs, Friday, 31 March 2017 08:45 (seven years ago) link

nothing on london live helps with anything

tony orlandoni, cheese engineer (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 31 March 2017 08:53 (seven years ago) link

YES THANK YOU

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Friday, 31 March 2017 08:54 (seven years ago) link

er sorry wrong thread

but maybe not

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Friday, 31 March 2017 08:56 (seven years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CS_0_JhWIAAopng.jpg

co-worker: shooter in the conference room
ILXor: yeah, I'd like to suck on some of that!
co-worker: o_O

<ILXor goes to conference room, sees men with automatic rifles gunning down their co-workers, not a screening of the 2007 mark wahlberg vehicle shooter>

ILXor: Noooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!

tony orlandoni, cheese engineer (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 31 March 2017 08:59 (seven years ago) link

this week I have learned through work that there is nothing worse than taking a new position with a different team and discovering that every single person around you is a fucking idiot. Whether it is down to excessive neurotic behaviour, unpredictable mood swings, body odour problems or simply being too lazy to do anything effective, all of the people around me are making me want to explode with frustration.

boxedjoy, Friday, 31 March 2017 09:07 (seven years ago) link

pls refer to tracer's 'conference room technique' diagram for a possible solution to yr problems

tony orlandoni, cheese engineer (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 31 March 2017 09:11 (seven years ago) link

stay gold xp

attention vampire (MatthewK), Friday, 31 March 2017 11:55 (seven years ago) link

two weeks pass...

just told my boss I want out of my dept after it became clear yesterday that we're in for another year of BS.

i'm sure this follow-up convo will be fun.

Neanderthal, Thursday, 20 April 2017 19:47 (seven years ago) link

lmao my boss approved my vacation time weeks ago and when today i was like "ok, see you later next week" he was like "wh-uh, you're.. coming in Monday, right?" and I was like "No, I'm on vacation until Thursday, you approved it weeks ago" and he was like "um--oh? uh..." adn it took him another several seconds to remember

if only there were, like, calendars built in to email programs

Fluffy Saint-Bernard (Stevie D(eux)), Saturday, 22 April 2017 04:12 (seven years ago) link

it's kind of amusing that the same people who needlessly created a ton of extra work for us this week due to overreacting to something very minute also want to pull us into a fuck ton of unnecessary meetings that stop us from getting said extra work done.

Neanderthal, Saturday, 22 April 2017 04:35 (seven years ago) link

that kind of predictably stupid "learning curve" in bossfolks is why I'm going to try to start monday off with an informal interview about a transfer

El Tomboto, Saturday, 22 April 2017 04:46 (seven years ago) link

one of my clients was so needlessly rude and snide in our presentation last week that I had an stress-induced rage meltdown and ceased to get anything done for the remainder of that day and the first half of the next until I finally cooled down. this morning, I got told her boss (who was on the call) apparently thought the same thing and gave her feedback about being more professional.

12 years here, that is the first time I've seen something like that happen. pleasant surprise.

Neanderthal, Monday, 24 April 2017 21:51 (seven years ago) link

so, the vaguely creepy new coworker i mentioned up thread? i found out last night at work drinks from his team leader that this guy asked out our boss. like, our department head. he called her a "greek goddess" apparently.

I no longer feel bad about being impolite to him. this guy clearly has no sense of boundaries or propriety. i give his hired ass a month before he gets the boot.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Tuesday, 25 April 2017 08:04 (seven years ago) link

HR is gonna LOVE him

Neanderthal, Tuesday, 25 April 2017 12:03 (seven years ago) link

please tell me he called her that to her face

a landlocked exclave (mh), Tuesday, 25 April 2017 13:54 (seven years ago) link

"I appreciate the compliment, but the question I asked was 'Can I get by, you're blocking the door to the Ladies room'"

Neanderthal, Tuesday, 25 April 2017 15:56 (seven years ago) link

yes he did say it to her face!!! apparently. she was too flustered to know what to do i suspect

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Tuesday, 25 April 2017 22:10 (seven years ago) link

true office legend

a landlocked exclave (mh), Tuesday, 25 April 2017 22:25 (seven years ago) link

I suspect the guy may possibly be on the spectrum tbh, his social awareness clues are just really off (he laughs at people when being corrected in training for eg).

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Tuesday, 25 April 2017 23:05 (seven years ago) link

BTW before anyone gathers an image in their head of a spotty neckbeard, the guy is a early 20something nerdy quiet South Asian kid.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Tuesday, 25 April 2017 23:06 (seven years ago) link

hmm yeah that does sound like he might be.

Charles "Butt" Stanton (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 25 April 2017 23:27 (seven years ago) link

when will upper management ever realize the following things:

1) you have no clue about what we do
2) every time you stick your hand in, you screw it up royally
3) then you ask us why it went wrong

Charles "Butt" Stanton (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 25 April 2017 23:29 (seven years ago) link

never ceases to amaze me when people don't realize that you don't need a meeting to read a document to me, and that you can't request 50 stupid last minute deliverables and schedule me for 8 hours of mandatory meetings.

on the plus side, I wrote a resume for the first time in 12 years and have started applying elsewhere. question - do employers scour Monster.com and even if they do, what negative could actually come of it? I've already told my boss I am thinking of leaving - me going would leave a pretty big hole in the new dept right after reorganization so I have some leverage.

Charles "Butt" Stanton (Neanderthal), Friday, 28 April 2017 01:12 (seven years ago) link

Aforementioned work creepyguy apparently just went into the tea-room and threw a tantrum. I didnt see it, but it *sounded* like he was kicking seven shades of shit out of a box or garbage bin.

Quietly glad guns are banned in this country just sayin.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Friday, 28 April 2017 01:22 (seven years ago) link

what exactly is his *job*

Charles "Butt" Stanton (Neanderthal), Friday, 28 April 2017 01:26 (seven years ago) link

Just an accounts customer service person!

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Friday, 28 April 2017 01:31 (seven years ago) link

I think he's taking badly to being trained? He wont listen. He gets defensive when he's scolded/corrected.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Friday, 28 April 2017 01:31 (seven years ago) link

How people like this get hired I have no effing idea.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Friday, 28 April 2017 01:31 (seven years ago) link

they had me interview candidates for about 2-3 years and I will say some people are really good at masking their faults in the interview process.

Two people got fired in my hire class 12 years ago literally the week we got out of training - one for lying on his application that he'd never worked there before (the idiot didn't realize his name was in the directory twice, which made THAT easy to suss out), and the other for yelling loudly at another co-worker "WE'D HAVE BEEN ABLE TO GO HOME ALREADY IF YOU WEREN'T SO INTERESTED IN SHOWING THE TRAINER YOUR TITTIES"

Charles "Butt" Stanton (Neanderthal), Friday, 28 April 2017 01:36 (seven years ago) link

the latter was actually hired at the urging of one of the top dog customer service managers too lol

Charles "Butt" Stanton (Neanderthal), Friday, 28 April 2017 01:37 (seven years ago) link

dude from outside customer service inserts himself into training I'd meticulously planned, went over his allotted time in every section (which made me have to scrap things), spoke to the learners as if they were stupid and talked in a monotone that left the learners comatose.

he's rewarded himself for his amazing performance by infiltrating another one of ours next week.

I need a new job.

Charles "Butt" Stanton (Neanderthal), Saturday, 6 May 2017 04:29 (seven years ago) link

This week:

* I'm Jewish, I eat pork, it's not weird, please stop mentioning it

* Please restrict office conversations about your favourite Haribo colour and whether Twix is a biscuit to < 30 mins thanks

Chuck_Tatum, Saturday, 6 May 2017 11:07 (seven years ago) link

colleague i mentioned upthread just approached me, i had earphones on, he tapped me on the shoulder and said "i've got to tell you something i heard on the radio". told me a story about a nike ad filmed in kenya in which a kenyan man was hired to say "just do it" in whatever language he spoke. when the ad aired it turned out he had said "these don't fit my feet".

and now i've had to tell all of you.

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Monday, 8 May 2017 13:01 (seven years ago) link

I really need to stop bothering my coworker like that, I just get tired of sitting here and should probably just talk to whoever is getting coffee

a landlocked exclave (mh), Monday, 8 May 2017 13:51 (seven years ago) link

me working at home cut out my bad habit of creating consistent small talk with people around me and not getting stuff done.

Charles "Butt" Stanton (Neanderthal), Monday, 8 May 2017 15:10 (seven years ago) link

That's what WhatsApp chats are for

your cognitive privilege (El Tomboto), Monday, 8 May 2017 15:18 (seven years ago) link

One of the smug lifers at my firm demanded that I add this doozy of a run-on sentence to our CS reference tools:

"If No - instruct the participant to read the information in the commencement kit and offer to schedule a call-back or let him/her know to call back after he/she has reviewed the commencement kit, or to log on to the website and view the calculation/options where he/she can make elections or call and discuss"

Charles "Butt" Stanton (Neanderthal), Friday, 19 May 2017 19:00 (six years ago) link

if I had known how much fun insubordination was, as well as how easy it is to phone it in and still stick around, I would have done this years ago

Charles "Butt" Stanton (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 23 May 2017 13:40 (six years ago) link

1) 5 reps have system issues that nobody else on team is having
2) We have local IT come and they can't figure it out
3) we start a global ticket, insisting it's urgent
4) nobody reaches out in 12 hours
5) we escalate further to find out why nobody has contacted us
6) it gets to the head of our depts who criticizes us, based on his incorrect understanding of the situation, saying we don't know how to get the issue to the right people

THAT'S WHAT GLOBAL SUPPORT TICKETS ARE FOR!!! if I knew how to fix it or who it should go to, I'd be doing it myself

Charles "Butt" Stanton (Neanderthal), Friday, 2 June 2017 12:39 (six years ago) link

you gotta find another job, man

heck i've even been an 'oyster pirate' (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 2 June 2017 12:44 (six years ago) link

I started applying to recruiters and other jobs about a week ago. it's a-happenin'

Charles "Butt" Stanton (Neanderthal), Friday, 2 June 2017 17:47 (six years ago) link

would probably be a pay cut but at this point....i kinda have to

Charles "Butt" Stanton (Neanderthal), Friday, 2 June 2017 17:47 (six years ago) link

Creepy bin kicking co worker got fired about a week after my last post, he tried to punch someone apparently lol.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Saturday, 3 June 2017 01:44 (six years ago) link

Geeez lol

Charles "Butt" Stanton (Neanderthal), Saturday, 3 June 2017 04:24 (six years ago) link

same coworker i mentioned a few times here, just came over to my desk, hovered behind me for a minute, produced his phone, every fibre of me being wishing this was not about to happen, then leans in "have you seen this?" and plays me a tweet which shows a cat walking past theresa may at 10 downing street and flinching a bit when it sees a police officer.

my coworker then says, pointing at the caption: "the caption says, the cat is surprised to see a police officer after all theresa may's police cuts"

this is a grown adult. a man in his 50s.

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Monday, 5 June 2017 10:08 (six years ago) link

keep calm and lolcatz meme

mark s, Monday, 5 June 2017 10:10 (six years ago) link

every element of that story is horrifying

he's also fouled up with NON-FAT (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 5 June 2017 10:53 (six years ago) link

torture.

i was in the bathroom earlier and he came in, was a few urinals down. he made to leave after about 20 seconds and said "oh, thought i needed to pee but turns out not"

i mean i get it, ageing, but prob didn't need to tell me.

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Monday, 5 June 2017 15:39 (six years ago) link

Question reminds me of buried childhood memory - gr7 band teacher used to squeeze his buttocks with the beat. So weird!

― she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Thursday, November 1, 2012 1:12 PM (four years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I was down in the gym over my lunch-break. Among other things, I was doing bridges, a glute-strengthening exercise. In the middle of my workout, finefinemusic's band teacher arose from the depths of my memories and it took me a few minutes to regain my composure.

how's life, Monday, 5 June 2017 16:46 (six years ago) link

There is a door here that has a tendency to slam shut (a thunderous sound). There is a big sign pleading on the door for employees to softly close the door. People have been thwacking the thing shut all day.

There will be fists!

Charles "Butt" Stanton (Neanderthal), Monday, 5 June 2017 17:52 (six years ago) link

if a door closes loudly by default, it's gonna be loud

recommend shoving some wads of tape all around the frame

mh, Monday, 5 June 2017 17:53 (six years ago) link

Until five minutes ago, I had never heard a real live person use the phrase 'pow-wow' in anything other than a parodic context wrt completely absurd business jargon that real live people would never actually use, and I'm pretty sure my soul actually left my body briefly when the traumatic event finally occurred. Not completely certain that I'm not dead right now.

Sir Isaac Gluten (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 7 June 2017 17:26 (six years ago) link

leave me the hell alone you fake smart joe rogan loving bubblehead

brimstead, Wednesday, 7 June 2017 21:45 (six years ago) link

yes please continue talking at me about this project that doesn't concern you, very helpful

brimstead, Wednesday, 7 June 2017 21:46 (six years ago) link

oh i feel bad, i knew i shouldn't have posted here oh well

brimstead, Wednesday, 7 June 2017 23:48 (six years ago) link

ahhh i just found out my last day is the 20th. Just in time for the $250 a week bill we get to pay the kids summer camp.

I had a moment where i was just going to walk out but I ended up applying for 4 jobs so who knows? or cares for that matter? I feel like I'm constantly unemployed with small bouts of sitting in a cubicle.

It's always (sunny successor), Thursday, 8 June 2017 01:14 (six years ago) link

Every time I open this thread I fear I will find a coworker has tracked me down and read my posts

Mince Pramthwart (James Morrison), Wednesday, 21 June 2017 03:48 (six years ago) link

just tell them what you think then. the truth shall set you free!*

*free of employment

Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 21 June 2017 04:24 (six years ago) link

last week I had to give a memeber of staff some negative feedback and they reacted by whisting over the top of what I was saying then walking away from me. It is a miracle I am not in jail for common assault.

boxedjoy, Wednesday, 21 June 2017 09:10 (six years ago) link

no court in the land would convict you

literally whistling over you might be a new low for this thread which already filled to bursting with new lows

total eclipse of the beefheart (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 21 June 2017 09:25 (six years ago) link

ongoing manager decides to take a one week cruise during the third week live on a major project and did not adequately prep any of her backups to fill her absence.

everything goes to hell while she's out, nobody is handling the things she would normally do, so now they're trying to force my team to own one of their major tasks simply because she's not here, even though it's way out of our depth.

so lesson learned, showing up to work = naive and stupid, take vacay whenever I feel like from now on. on the plus side, I did discover resumerobin.com today.

Charles "Butt" Stanton (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 21 June 2017 19:02 (six years ago) link

last week I had to give a memeber of staff some negative feedback and they reacted by whisting over the top of what I was saying then walking away from me.

Uh, they should be pulled aside by HR and told to quit it or leave imo. What a dick!

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Thursday, 22 June 2017 01:23 (six years ago) link

I mean it'd only be douchier if they did the "shh" thing that Dr Evil does in Austin Powers. it's 11 year-old behavior.

Charles "Butt" Stanton (Neanderthal), Thursday, 22 June 2017 01:56 (six years ago) link

I'm in the fortunate position where I get to manage these people* but I don't have the power to escalate disciplinary procedures directly, ie I have to pass this situation on to a more senior manager and stand back while they take action. Which, by the nature of the arrangement, of course it is nowhere near as fast or direct as I would want it done.

*I say these people because, although this example is the worst, it isn't an isolated incident of similar shameless disrespect from this team.

boxedjoy, Thursday, 22 June 2017 11:12 (six years ago) link

The people I manage are really nice and it is an incredible fucking relief. Managing assholes is like having a nosiy neighbour - it can seem like the only option is to get a new job / move house.

Chuck_Tatum, Thursday, 22 June 2017 11:55 (six years ago) link

Currently hating: male co-worker who only uses the word "adorable" in conversations with women, keeps leaning in for a cheeky hug, all-purpose defensive mansplainer

Chuck_Tatum, Thursday, 22 June 2017 12:02 (six years ago) link

please

stop

taaaalking

I don't think there's been more than a ten-minute gap in this series of monologues all day

a passing spacecadet, Friday, 23 June 2017 13:50 (six years ago) link

even after sending an email warning of my PTO this week, and an Out of Office auto-reply that tells everyone I'm out and gives the names of contacts to reach out to, there are people apparently emailing me asking for things that require quick turnaround this week.

and leaving off the right people to send these to even after they get the OOO message.

Charles "Butt" Stanton (Neanderthal), Thursday, 6 July 2017 18:29 (six years ago) link

giggling a little as I picture these doofuses wondering why they're getting no reply.

Charles "Butt" Stanton (Neanderthal), Thursday, 6 July 2017 18:29 (six years ago) link

so i had a meeting yesterday morning with my team to pitch for work, essentially to justify our existence as a team of contractors on the job we're on. it was sort of a fait accompli even tho there were other groups tendering for the work, but nonetheless it was fairly serious, we all had notes etc, dressed semi-formally, treated it with some level of gravitas.

we're all sitting in the room, and i'm looking at my notes with about five minutes to go until the pitch starts, and "the colleague i mentioned upthread" (this is now his name itt) turns to me and says

"have you ever thought about investigating your family tree?"

"em, i dunno, perhaps one day."

"i've been doing it for some time, it's very interesting - i have a mixed heritage, south african, croatian, IRISH..." blah blah blah until the meeting starts, as every other member of the team just looks at him like the banal lunatic that he is.

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Thursday, 6 July 2017 18:50 (six years ago) link

bwahahaha

mh, Thursday, 6 July 2017 19:33 (six years ago) link

I feel like with those people they view your disinterest as an accelerant

Charles "Butt" Stanton (Neanderthal), Thursday, 6 July 2017 20:58 (six years ago) link

oh, most definitely

I mostly let it slide these days when meetings with coworkers that are all friendly start with a few minutes of bullshitting about the upcoming weekend or whatever

but the impulse to _want_ to be able to do that with people who have no interest, at the wrong time, combined with the "gotta keep talking through this awkward silence, maybe if I say one more thing they'll be able to relate to this" motive is mortifying

mh, Thursday, 6 July 2017 21:06 (six years ago) link

meetings at my old job were mostly full of co-workers who could barely stay awake

classic

Unchanging Window (Ross), Thursday, 6 July 2017 21:09 (six years ago) link

it wasn't just the disinterest, it was also just so comically mistimed and weird, that he'd be thinking about this as basically the entire room was gearing itself up. but yeah, also a seriously boring interlude.

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Thursday, 6 July 2017 21:16 (six years ago) link

but the impulse to _want_ to be able to do that with people who have no interest, at the wrong time, combined with the "gotta keep talking through this awkward silence, maybe if I say one more thing they'll be able to relate to this" motive is mortifying

otm. one of my dear friends has this habit of talking to me at length about several operas. Now, the guy has a brilliant knowledge of opera and classical works and I find it fascinating, but he'll go on about it long past expiry and assumes received knowledge that I don't have, so I feel like I can't add anything to the convo. I try to steer the convo back to shared interests and usually that works.

I also hate the people at work who seem to think what you did last weekend is a show-and-tell contest for determining who leads the most awesome life.

Charles "Butt" Stanton (Neanderthal), Thursday, 6 July 2017 21:17 (six years ago) link

playing bottle-flip on a table shared with 9 other people trying to work, ffs.

next week, fidget spinners, i'm guessing.

koogs, Tuesday, 11 July 2017 13:10 (six years ago) link

Fidget spinners are pretty quiet.

Now, the staff of a half dozen writers behind me who have to begin every morning discussing the latest CRAZY thing the president has said or done, that's not very quiet at all.

pplains, Tuesday, 11 July 2017 13:29 (six years ago) link

But you know, CAN YOU BELIEVE THIS GUY?

pplains, Tuesday, 11 July 2017 13:29 (six years ago) link

My stepkid has a fidget spinner with LIGHTS in it. That can get a bit annoying if he's in one's field of view.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Wednesday, 12 July 2017 03:50 (six years ago) link

i find that to be true about children in general.

Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 12 July 2017 14:27 (six years ago) link

Ha :)

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Thursday, 13 July 2017 00:18 (six years ago) link

This is how you bottle flip at work

Hard at work. #TheMick #Fox #Season2 pic.twitter.com/VJi0ZxF17G

— kaitlin olson (@KaitlinOlson) June 7, 2017

Right column Leftist (sunny successor), Friday, 14 July 2017 03:13 (six years ago) link

yeah girl!

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Friday, 14 July 2017 05:31 (six years ago) link

Dear people who send lots of emails saying something is broken and must be fixed urgently URGENT NOW URGENT and then when you reply saying that you think it's fixed and please could they let you know whether it looks OK there are tumbleweeds and no reply hours later,

So annoying!

Love,

fixing monkey

a passing spacecadet, Friday, 14 July 2017 08:45 (six years ago) link

dude keeps emailing me because the people I gave him to contact after I left a project aren't replying to his emails. I crankily asked him if he was aware of instant messaging and the ability to contact people directly.

Charles "Butt" Stanton (Neanderthal), Friday, 14 July 2017 15:33 (six years ago) link

customer: what's wrong with [genre category] on your website
me: what do you mean
customer: i tried to find [x title] and [y title] and they werent there

ok so we don't carry those two items because reasons... but the rest of the category is perfectly searchable jfc don't give me a heartattack

Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 14 July 2017 21:28 (six years ago) link

our company has a no paid overtime policy for management, so if I stay behind to get stuff done I can only claim it back as time owed. In the past two weeks I've racked up over a full day's worth because we have a major visit from the company CEO this week. So the only reason for me to do this is to give myself an easy life when the bigwigs turn up.

One of our summer temps came to me over the weekend and said that she overheard the other supervisor complaining to the team that I haven't done enough and that I must be struggling in the job (I've been here for three months, it wasn't a job I wanted but I was parachuted in because nobody else would take it). I've been quite honest about not being happy (ie dealing with the whistler upthread, which is major but not exceptional in this environment) but I've yet to see her do anything like stay behind or come in early. I'm so angry for so many obvious reasons and I really don't know how to proceed, because if I bring it up I'm basically revealing that this temp is a grass and I know that it will make her life difficult for the remainder of summer.

boxedjoy, Monday, 17 July 2017 06:08 (six years ago) link

is this other supervisor someone you report to, or are they at the same level as you? trying to figure out if it's worth bringing up .......

Neanderthal, Monday, 17 July 2017 12:56 (six years ago) link

it's the same level. We do the same job in two different departments and get paid the same and both answer to the same manager. She's been there fifteen years too so it's not like she doesn't have friends and influence in the situation, ie if she's telling everyone who works in both departments I'm useless and lazy then they'll be much more likely to buy into that, regardless of whatever I try to do to visibly show otherwise. It isn't like she's not good at her job in other ways but this is so unprofessional. I also think bringing it up is a waste of time: the damage is done because everyone who she's mouthed off in front of will have heard it and this stuff always ends up repeated as gossip.

I mean it's a moot point because I'm actively and desperately looking for something else, anything else at all. Hopefully not in retail though!

boxedjoy, Monday, 17 July 2017 15:50 (six years ago) link

I work at a large-ish company (about 200 people) that is being restructured with little-to-no consultation.

Our CEO met with staff this morning. "We're not hiring any new people, but we're not getting rid of anyone either. However, if your job description is changed, your job *may* become available."

Chuck_Tatum, Wednesday, 19 July 2017 11:34 (six years ago) link

is it acceptable to throw things at the bloke sat opposite who keeps humming?

koogs, Tuesday, 25 July 2017 11:48 (six years ago) link

yes

crazed with patience (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 25 July 2017 11:52 (six years ago) link

the colleague i mentioned here a few times got fired this week. p weird actually. he had been wildly taking the piss with coming in late, arriving late for meetings, leaving early etc and he's a contractor, they just gave him the boot. feel a bit guilty in the sense that prob all of our team had complained about this repeatedly amongst ourselves, don't think anyone advocated his dismissal. on the other hand it is public money and i think he was prob invoicing for days when he worked a half day or less, and he put himself in this position. a lot of the time i've bemoaned the fact that government doesn't actually dismiss contractors regardless of any behaviour whatsoever, still weird now i'm in a team where it's happened.

what's bizarre is, after it coming up already, i think he was warned etc, and weeks of it recurring and getting worse, like late for every meeting, late in the morning then saying "btw i'll be leaving at 3pm today' - i was sat near my boss last week and the same co-worker, who was prob close to his last chance already, asked if he could work from home three days a week in august. the level of obliviousness is beyond me, that may be the request that got him canned.

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Thursday, 27 July 2017 15:00 (six years ago) link

I'm always of coming across like that guy - I get migraines and work from home a lot. Easy to get paranoid that everyone thinks you're slacking off.

I am working from home and posting on a messgae board but ykwim

Chuck_Tatum, Thursday, 27 July 2017 15:07 (six years ago) link

always *afraid* of

Chuck_Tatum, Thursday, 27 July 2017 15:08 (six years ago) link

thing is it's really, really tolerant. like wfh is generally fine a day or two a week, appointments etc mostly fine, but this was essentially every day. we basically are asked to just work 0930 to 1700, give or take. it's a very calm environment.

but even for say a normal meeting he'd be gone to get a coffee and back 10 mins late. once or twice nobody would care but it almost became comical it was so often. like almost every time. this coupled with always complaining about not having enough time and prob a few bad interpersonal issues, like defensive attitude or impersonating people's accent, again all more in the realm of foolish lack of self-awareness or pomposity rather than malice.

it's a strange issue as it feels harsh that someone so oblivious gets punished. he's not a malicious person, maybe a bit entitled and lacking in self-awareness, i personally find it hard to know how to feel about that kind of person. maybe it's just as bad as someone deliberately slacking off. i dunno. i think the fact he's prob on about 500 pounds a day makes people, esp his civil servant bosses, a bit more harsh, and justifiably so really.

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Thursday, 27 July 2017 15:46 (six years ago) link

Sounds justified to me. Maybe this will help him gain some self-awareness.

Moodles, Thursday, 27 July 2017 16:09 (six years ago) link

that's what i think ultimately. a bit of a kick up the ass. it's easy enough to get complacent as a contractor.

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Thursday, 27 July 2017 16:12 (six years ago) link

combed through this thread to see if anybody has ever successfully solved their office perfume problem. Nobody ever has. Been trying to get my office to make some kind of formal perfume policy for years but it's too awkward for anybody to step up and address.

Somebody brought it the biggest offending co-worker years ago and she didn't understand the criticism, because she was wearing "natural oils," not perfume.

Evan R, Thursday, 27 July 2017 16:27 (six years ago) link

Do you have a HR, Evan? Definitely the kind of thing that probably needs to be raised with some degree of anonymity but a totally reasonable concern.

Week of Wonders (Ross), Thursday, 27 July 2017 16:29 (six years ago) link

We have an HR-ish person and I used to try to get them to bring it up. Sometimes they waffled because it was awkward (we're a small office), and sometimes I think they did talk to her but nothing really changed, at least not for more than a week or two. I've since moved so I'm out of the spray zone, but the few times a week I have to work near this person are always a challenge.

I find almost any fragrance objectionable, especially in abundance, but I don't know how she can be oblivious to how objectionable her particular smell is. It's strangely.. powdery? Kind of like B.O. and nursing home and baking soda? It's hard to explain. A co-worker theorized it was rosewater once but I can't imagine something called rosewater smelling that awful

Evan R, Thursday, 27 July 2017 16:41 (six years ago) link

I've a colleague that has a fragrance sensitivity. It just developed about four years ago, he gets terrible coughing fits, has difficulty breathing and gets teary eyes when confronted with perfume (not all perfumes, most most of them). That sealed the deal in our company: no more perfumes. I'm all for it.

You could say that apart from not liking the scent it does seem to affect you in your work, also. That should be ground for the others to leave the sprays at home imo.

Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 27 July 2017 17:13 (six years ago) link

Ha I recall this nightmare, I posted about it was upthread:

On the allergy tip once my office decided to have the stupidest theme day ever: "wear tons of perfume/cologne", with prizes for guessing the smells, most obnoxious scent etc. I am not even joking. I think I privately emailed my boss and said "are you kidding? I'll end up with a migraine, i am kind of allergic to strong perfumes" and they called it off and kind of made it clear I was the spoilsport which was embarrassing :(

― I checked Snoops , and it is for real (Trayce), Thursday, February 26, 2015

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Friday, 28 July 2017 00:32 (six years ago) link

Trayce, you should have suggested, as an alternative to Obnoxious Aroma Day, a day where every employee was allowed to snap wet towels at every other employee. Your spoilsport label would have instantly evaporated in all the crazy fun!

A is for (Aimless), Friday, 28 July 2017 02:12 (six years ago) link

How about a weekly “Your day in the barrel” where someone is sealed into a barrel for the work day

mh, Friday, 28 July 2017 02:14 (six years ago) link

ding ding ding

Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 28 July 2017 02:27 (six years ago) link

I'm working for a small business now after getting burnt out from the corporate world. It's like working for a capricious emperor. Makes me miss being a faceless corporate drone.

carpet_kaiser, Friday, 28 July 2017 02:29 (six years ago) link

I guess I'm finally living the dream of George Jetson, without that crazy space shit or family.

Jetson! You're fired!Your're rehired! Spacely was a fucking dick, man.

carpet_kaiser, Friday, 28 July 2017 02:46 (six years ago) link

Had a farewell lunch for a coworker today; first 10 minutes of talk was GAME OF THRONES

NERDS IN THEIR FORTIES

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Friday, 28 July 2017 02:59 (six years ago) link

back off man, i don't watch that

mookieproof, Friday, 28 July 2017 03:00 (six years ago) link

Small business owners are the worst.

Dan I., Friday, 28 July 2017 12:11 (six years ago) link

nerds in their forties / geeking about dragons during a lunch / what a dull bunch

all the nerdy people / where do the all come from?

the shape of a hot willie lumpkin (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 28 July 2017 13:27 (six years ago) link

three weeks pass...

In my current job I'm performing really well, basically doubling the success of the current campaign I was given to work on. Now my co-workers hate my guts.

Reminds me of my legal internships where I'd win "hopeless" cases and my supervisors would shit all over me.

I'm pretty much ready to pack it all in.

carpet_kaiser, Monday, 21 August 2017 20:34 (six years ago) link

kinda makes you wonder what you're supposed to do eh

Neanderthal, Monday, 21 August 2017 22:03 (six years ago) link

xp. real fantasist hours

-_- (jim in vancouver), Monday, 21 August 2017 22:06 (six years ago) link

meanwhile, last year I was given an assignment to rework our training assessments. they prescribed me what they wanted the end result to be, and said I basically just needed to connect the dots. spent about a month putting the SOPs together, got it blessed by all the managers and sales executives. then it came time to pilot it, and nobody would sign up to pilot it, so I said fine, I'll pilot it on my own project.

I piloted it successfully twice and offered to share the results. nope, leadership changed their mind, now they wanted to go a different direction and reworked the process again, meaning I wasted about an entire month. more aggravating, one of our managers shared some skepticism about the efficacy of the new process, even though SHE WAS ONE OF THE PEOPLE WHO ASKED TO ME TO IMPLEMENT IT TO BEGIN WITH. my boss got quite the earful.

I've given up on leaving the company for time being as out of all my applying, all the people that contacted me were for jobs that would require me taking a 30k pay cut, so....just keep refreshing the internal job board to see if something better comes along.

Neanderthal, Monday, 21 August 2017 22:14 (six years ago) link

xxp I can send you the results if you want. You can call the courts and I'm on the record. Fantasist, my ass.

That's what I'm talking about. My existence makes me a piece of shit. Can't even talk about it anywhere.

Whatever. I'm tired of being alive, so IDGAF anymore.

carpet_kaiser, Monday, 21 August 2017 22:20 (six years ago) link

oooooooooook - no need to go that route, man.

Neanderthal, Monday, 21 August 2017 22:21 (six years ago) link

In open space offices, employees create better relationships and work in a team.

JAN: Oh, Mark, I see what you meant about the city manager's office. I called over there, tried to leave a message with Bruce, but got disconnected as soon as they tried to transfer me. You called it, they got me good. Mark?

KEN: He left to get coffee five minutes ago.

pplains, Wednesday, 23 August 2017 13:13 (six years ago) link

We're about to move into a new building next week. People were discussing the new meeting rooms over our skype channel and where the name scheme/list was for the calendar. The rooms are all named after elements for some reason - argon, hydrogen, oxygen etc

The idiot sitting next to me blithely types into the (office-wide) chat "haha thats funny! Like gas chambers!"

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Friday, 25 August 2017 04:36 (six years ago) link

O_o

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 25 August 2017 05:04 (six years ago) link

Haha yeah, I immediately winced - theres a few jewish people in our office for starters - then someone else gently pointed out he might want to delete the comment and "pretend you never said it" and he did. lol.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Friday, 25 August 2017 05:31 (six years ago) link

Sounds like something I would've said.

Why I don't chat with the office.

pplains, Friday, 25 August 2017 13:09 (six years ago) link

so does anybody else have someone w/ a really similar name in their office that they've been getting emails for due to people not paying attention, for like the last TEN YEARS

Neanderthal, Friday, 25 August 2017 13:11 (six years ago) link

my friend has that problem, in that he's Firstname O'Brien and there's a Firstname O'Bryan in the company somewhere

mh, Friday, 25 August 2017 14:07 (six years ago) link

happened again for the first time in like 3 years, had a chuckle. we have the same first name, and last name differs by just 3 letters. He went as far to officially change his first name in the system to his nickname ten years ago which helped, but despite that and despite dude working in a diff state, still happens now and then.

One of the first times it happened, this dude sent an urgent request by email to the right person (other guy), and when he didn't hear back on the latest exchange, mistakenly instant messaged me. I had no clue about my doppleganger at the time and had no clue what he was talking about so he was talking to me like I had a stroke ("we just talked about this"), even called me to discuss. Finally I asked him to send me whatever email he was talking about and he forwarded it and tersely said "Here, ring any bells?!", and then I politely told him to compare the name he was msging to the one on the email.

Neanderthal, Friday, 25 August 2017 15:40 (six years ago) link

just attended a very bizarre meeting.

it was a kickoff meeting and I noticed a few usual invitees weren't invited. We all arrived at the start time to dead silence, then the meeting owner pipes in to say "sorry, I'm here guys!" after my lead pings her, then silence again. My lead asks her a question to prod her along, after which she goes silent, and finally says "I'm sorry, isn't this the kickoff meeting", to where the owner says "Oh. Right. This is a meeting *I* scheduled. Geez, I thought it was one you all had scheduled that I was invited to."

It didn't get much better from there. Instead of rescheduling, she tried to pull it off. Her voice became more and more faint and then we could hear what was pretty obviously other people's voices, as if she was in a public place like a store, so everyone tells her they can't hear her and she dials back in. She then says she's going to screenshare something with us, and spends the next 15 minutes rambling and at the end forgets she promised to screenshare and just says she's going to email it to us while apologizing ten times for how awkward the meeting is.

She sounded disoriented like she'd just woken up or something, or taken like a Benadryl and was drowsy, so I wouldn't call her 'stupid', but was like - why didn't you just reschedule it, it'd have been way less awkward!

Neanderthal, Tuesday, 29 August 2017 18:10 (six years ago) link

my friend has that problem, in that he's Firstname O'Brien and there's a Firstname O'Bryan in the company somewhere

― mh, Friday, 25 August 2017 14:07 (four days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Well my heart bleeds for ye over there surely

passé aggresif (darraghmac), Tuesday, 29 August 2017 18:59 (six years ago) link

lol

Neanderthal, Tuesday, 29 August 2017 19:03 (six years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Aw5ZkPbCIAEabX8.png

Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 29 August 2017 19:35 (six years ago) link

There are two dudes who sit near me who, I'll qualify, are very nice guys but whose respective banality created some sort of banal singularity once they started sitting next to one another. Long, involved, animated conversations about the most incredibly boring things you could possibly imagine. They're currently marveling over plot points of the Santa Clause films.

Glengarry Glen Marshall (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 29 August 2017 19:50 (six years ago) link

We've got a fella in here who used to live in the big city, so he's always educating us about how the big city works.

Such as DID YOU KNOW there's a street in New York called "Houston" that's actually pronounced "HOW-stuhn"?

pplains, Tuesday, 29 August 2017 19:52 (six years ago) link

Do they

Do they post on the trump threads do they

passé aggresif (darraghmac), Tuesday, 29 August 2017 20:02 (six years ago) link

pplains, if he ever gets into politics you should drop the "Did you know that Lincoln had a secretary named Kennedy and.." anecdote and then just kind of stare at him

mh, Tuesday, 29 August 2017 20:21 (six years ago) link

Long, involved, animated conversations about the most incredibly boring things you could possibly imagine

too easy

ultros ultros-ghali, Tuesday, 29 August 2017 20:27 (six years ago) link

>They're currently marveling over plot points of the Santa Clause films.

this sounds amazing.

Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 29 August 2017 20:30 (six years ago) link

pplains, if he ever gets into politics you should drop the "Did you know that Lincoln had a secretary named Kennedy and.." anecdote and then just kind of stare at him

try this one: Henry Adams wrote a novel called 'Democracy' in 1880 featuring a womanising politician called Clinton and a dull also-ran called Gore.

Mince Pramthwart (James Morrison), Wednesday, 30 August 2017 07:04 (six years ago) link

life would be sweet if i could just marvel away at Santa Clause

Week of Wonders (Ross), Wednesday, 30 August 2017 07:15 (six years ago) link

I may have mentioned this on some other thread but I cannot bear the odor of my immediate deskmate. I dont know if its a cultural thing or a male thing or what, but he reeks so intensely of a combo of cat piss, smokers clothing, cheap shitty south asian patchouli scent and BO that I can smell it *from 15 feet away when he isnt even at his desk*.

I mean I'm honestly at the point of quietly going to my team leader and ... saying something. But what?

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Thursday, 31 August 2017 22:45 (six years ago) link

people who "work long hours" that really just work slowly and chat too much... they really need to fuck the fuck off.

brimstead, Thursday, 31 August 2017 22:58 (six years ago) link

xpost just leave a box of Irish Spring on his desk

Neanderthal, Thursday, 31 August 2017 23:00 (six years ago) link

the joe rogan guy pissed me off again today. he is really bad at hiding his passive aggressiveness. You know that laugh these people do? with like no joy whatsoever? i just wish people would either a) COMMUNICATE DIRECTLY or b) fuck the fuck off

brimstead, Thursday, 31 August 2017 23:01 (six years ago) link

oh god I've always hated the awkward pass-agg laugh, my last client did that all the time and I wanted to force choke them.

Neanderthal, Thursday, 31 August 2017 23:03 (six years ago) link

I sometimes feel bad at laughing at a coworker's laugh because his "amused but not cracking up" laugh sounds like the Count from Sesame Street

mh, Thursday, 31 August 2017 23:07 (six years ago) link

Sometimes I unintentionally laugh like Dr Hibbert. I have no idea why.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Friday, 1 September 2017 01:20 (six years ago) link

been signed off for the past six weeks due to stress caused by a toxic working environment and a level of expectation that's completely unrealistic (I'm the third person in the role in two years, I didn't apply for the position but was coerced into the transfer). I'm meeting my manager this afternoon to discuss a possible return to work and I'm dreading it. It's hard to say No to your direct boss, but I know nothing has changed while I've been off and I don't see how I can go back to the same situation and not make myself ill.

boxedjoy, Friday, 1 September 2017 09:44 (six years ago) link

7 people pair-programming in the space of 4 desks (next to mine). lots of space elsewhere in the office. show some common sense. (i've taken my laptop to completely empty desk, but they haven't spread out to use the space i vacated yet)

i mentioned being short of things to do in the daily standup. was told there were plenty of unassigned tickets. team-lead then launches back into whatever he was doing yesterday before assigning me anything so i'm sat here posting to ilx instead.

koogs, Friday, 1 September 2017 10:30 (six years ago) link

Sorry Boxedjoy, that sounds awful. Our office is having a toxic environment problem too at the moment, caused by (a) mass team restructuring and (b) arseholes. I used to be on our Staff Association, and they're doing a shitty job dealing with it. I'm trying to push them to organise a town hall session where staff can have a cathartic moan and hopefully figure out what our "you can't fuck with us past *this* point" line in the sand is.

Chuck_Tatum, Friday, 1 September 2017 15:48 (six years ago) link

Filling in for someone today on their project and helping report out s/ls. Someone wanted to know the combined service level for two skills and before i could quickly calc i get pulled aside and told not to because you can't simply just average the two numbers, it's a "complex equation".

No...it's not. You literally multiply the # of calls answered by the service level % for each skill, which gives you the # of timely calls answered for each skill. You add up the timely calls answered, the overall answered, and divide the firsr by the second, there's your combined s/l. 7th grade algebra.

Neanderthal, Friday, 1 September 2017 22:17 (six years ago) link

I shared it anyway

Neanderthal, Friday, 1 September 2017 22:17 (six years ago) link

Boxedjoy that sounds terrible. Sympathies and luck.

passé aggresif (darraghmac), Friday, 1 September 2017 22:19 (six years ago) link

boxedjoy, recently went through something very similar. Sending you best wishes, hit me up via e-mail if you want to talk

Week of Wonders (Ross), Friday, 1 September 2017 22:22 (six years ago) link

thanks guys. I went to meet my manager yesterday with one goal, namely "tell him you're not ready to go back to work unless things have changed: can he take a few days to think about a possible solution?" But there is no possible solution. My manager is a really nice guy who 100% has my back and he told me believes that I'm capable of doing the job but (xpost to rolling depression thread) I'm not prepared to feel so tired, so defeated, so combatant, all the time. The reimbursement is lacking - my store department is bigger than 60% of store totals in the company and yet I don't approach the wage an actual store manager would get - but even if it was a rewarding salary I just don't want to do it, not in this environment. It has made me ill and without any change it will make me more ill.

the whole thing is an absolute disaster. There are no full-time positions in the region so the only way I can go back to work is to return part-time in a basic role ie a paycut of over 50%. My sick pay will expire so this is the reality of it.

And the reason I'm in this mess? Three months ago, I found out the role I was about to progress into was being made redundant (supervisor to assistant manager, but now we don't have assistant managers). My then-manager had a realistic conversation with me about my prospects. "You can't have my job cos I'm going nowhere but if you stay in this job you will be bored and unfulfilled and you are better than this role." So when a new job came up in a flagship branch I applied. I scored best of 10 candidates in the assessments but was told I wasn't to be offered the job because of a personality test (a tickbox exercise from Buzzfeed!) indicated my style was too similar to the people I would be working with and they wanted more diversity. Which is great if you work for the UN and not in a retail job to keep you in gig tickets and wine. So instead I was offered the job I've had to take sick leave from. I didn't want it because I knew the atmosphere would be toxic and the work would be demanding without worthwhile reward, but I let myself be persuaded into it because being overpromoted is a great ego boost. So I am literally in the position where I went to a job interview, was the best candidate, and yet this is the result. I don't know whether to be angry that I've allowed this to happen to me or simply relieved I don't have to go back into the culture of sniping and bitchery.

boxedjoy, Saturday, 2 September 2017 09:16 (six years ago) link

I mean, in the world of work you have to be tough and strong and resilient and not take criticisms personally and that's all stuff I accept I need to work on, not just for my career but for the sake of my own mentality in life. But there is a difference between "as your boss I have to tell you that this is not right" and the constant backchat of 30-40 people who have nothing good to say about you or anyone or anything.

boxedjoy, Saturday, 2 September 2017 09:19 (six years ago) link

sorry boxedjoy. That sounds crazy and miserable and I hope you find something better because you clearly deserve to.

also Buzzfeed tickbox personality tests for actual hiring decisions, overriding actual assessments and experience, wtf

(disclaimer: the thought of personality tests for hiring in any circumstances at all makes me itchy. everyone says psychologist Martin Seligman's self-help books are v good and as a kinda learned-helpless-depresso I ought to read them and take in his joyous self-improving message or whatnot, but when I got to the part where he rubberstamped some tickbox personality test for BigCorp to reject people who didn't think they were fantastic in every way and when they weren't it must be someone else's fault, I threw the book across the room and never finished it)

a passing spacecadet, Saturday, 2 September 2017 12:25 (six years ago) link

I scored best of 10 candidates in the assessments but was told I wasn't to be offered the job because of a personality test (a tickbox exercise from Buzzfeed!) indicated my style was too similar to the people I would be working with and they wanted more diversity. Which is great if you work for the UN and not in a retail job to keep you in gig tickets and wine.

this is appalling!

we did some personality-style testing in our team once and we're all pretty much the same AND WE LIKE IT THAT WAY although granted it's probably not for the best...

kinder, Saturday, 2 September 2017 12:57 (six years ago) link

So the woman who was pissed off at me the other week congratulated me on my performance in today's meeting. So that's good. I was given her category and improved its performance by over 200%. The other campaign I was working on, I was able to create materials for it that performed around 185% better than the past materials they were using.

Now I've run afoul of the marketing manager. I was given a new project, and ended up developing a new vision for the product while doing research. I think it'll work. Today he tried to school me, but his schooling used scenarios that didn't match the fact pattern of our situation, so I know it's some dumbshit ego thing on his part... things got real fucking weird for the rest of the day after I submitted my proposal.

I wasn't trying that, I was just looking for something that worked, and invested a lot of time and effort into developing something that I thought would. And based on actual metrics, I've already got a pattern of doing just that at this place.

Today was a pretty miserable day. I've been dealing with crap like this since I was a kid. I have no idea what job or situation would be a good fit for me at this point.

carpet_kaiser, Friday, 8 September 2017 01:45 (six years ago) link

It sounds like you work in advertising or similar - that work is full of toxic bloated egos.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Friday, 8 September 2017 01:50 (six years ago) link

Yeah, I just fell into this work. I probably just have to own this stuff and find a new way to live... you know, more self-confidence, all that bullshit.

carpet_kaiser, Friday, 8 September 2017 01:56 (six years ago) link

The way I present myself is like some schlemiel, then it turns out I'm pretty damn good at things, maybe it throws 'em off what they expected. maybe my life's not geared to who I am properly. Whatver, just bitching here.

carpet_kaiser, Friday, 8 September 2017 01:58 (six years ago) link

It's actually a lot more serious than that ... that woman tried to get me fired ... and today the marketing manager caused a fucking shitstorm that made me look terrible. The big boss likes my numbers, so he shrugged it off, but I'm tired of fighting battles like this.

I got fucking tortured at my last job for stuff like this. And I just limit myself because of it, because people really friggin' hate who I am.

carpet_kaiser, Friday, 8 September 2017 02:09 (six years ago) link

I don't think I have any choice but to learn how to play with power, because I guess I got it whether I like it or not. Anyway, enough on my dumb shit.

carpet_kaiser, Friday, 8 September 2017 02:30 (six years ago) link

half my office have these in-joke phrases that other coworkers have said over the years, inane shit that is only funny to them, and I swear it accounts for 50% of what is said every week

drives me fucking insane

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 8 September 2017 03:59 (six years ago) link

Not only did one of my coworkers make the pun of a law firm called "Dewey, Cheatham, & Howe", but one of the others about shot hot coffee through his nose laughing so hard at it.

pplains, Friday, 8 September 2017 04:03 (six years ago) link

inane injokes? Fuck washing a hat!

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Friday, 8 September 2017 04:06 (six years ago) link

also my boss does "impressions" of various managers & ppl in the company, and when he gets spun up about someone you get an earful of the impression du jour at full volume *at least 20 times*
he's like a hyperactive 10 year old just saying the same thing over & over

*headdesk*

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 8 September 2017 04:08 (six years ago) link

Groovy, I had a coworker threaten to beat and murder me, and it freaked out me and another freelancer so much that we had to leave the building to process it.

Nothing was done about it after I reported it. And the marketing manager is now trying to get me fired because I came up with two new marketing campaigns, and he wants to keep trying the same shit he came up with that's done nothing but fail.

No idea why these people hired me. I have marketing experience and management training from some of the biggest corporations in the world, yet they keep saying I have "no idea what I'm doing", and I keep pointing to the numbers that shows I do know what I'm doing. After 2 months I've beaten all the KPIs of years-long running marketing campaigns by up to 200 fucking percent, and I was given no resources or help whatsoever to do it.

I honestly believe they hired me as a joke, they didn't seem like they intended me to actually do the job properly, and I kicked its fucking ass into the stratosphere with no resources whatsoever. And I fucking hate marketing.

And I'm nice to these people. I'm nice! For real, IRL, I'm an easy-going guy, hard to believe.

What the hell did they expect, then. I really need to own my own value... I'm tired of almost getting murdered and ending up in these awful environments.

carpet_kaiser, Thursday, 14 September 2017 01:38 (six years ago) link

going out for lunch in a huge group of coworkers can really be the worst.

yesterday like 12 of us went out to celebrate a milestone in the product we're building. one colleague, who booked it, tried to insist we should begin the set menu we'd ordered despite three colleagues not being there yet. the same colleague doesn't eat lamb, in a setup where there are like many, many sharing plates that don't contain lamb, decided to change a lamb plate for something else, rather than just the obv choice of everyone sharing a bit more of the other dishes her way or whatever. this is a situation with loads of other foods left over.

then there's the payment obviously and the fact that it's always below and nobody includes a tip. it's amazing how many filters of politeness, general decency and good humour people pass through before becoming actual friends, and how few of these filters those we're forced to work with would pass through.

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Thursday, 14 September 2017 09:35 (six years ago) link

in a setup where there are like many, many sharing plates that don't contain lamb, decided to change a lamb plate for something else

this is rude imo but then I like lamb. but I bet there were vegetarians present and nobody said "let's switch out all the meat dishes because there are 3 vegetarians"

although I should be careful what I wish for, that did happen at one of our work lunches, and the result was that lunch was cheese and pickle sandwiches with no choice, and I don't like pickle

(everyone will now post to say that I am wrong. perhaps I should have pretended to be lactose intolerant; that is more socially acceptable than not liking pickle)

a passing spacecadet, Thursday, 14 September 2017 13:23 (six years ago) link

I'm with you on the pickle front, aps - disgusting muck. Lettuce, or a little onion, in a cheese sarnie is acceptable tho.

Gulley Jimson (Ward Fowler), Thursday, 14 September 2017 13:26 (six years ago) link

fp'd u both, sorry

here's how **takes sip of duck urine** economics works (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 14 September 2017 13:27 (six years ago) link

the one vegetarian got a large platter to himself! tho it was a mix of vegetarian stuff anyway so it wasn't as if others couldn't help out. indian food so the vegetables were not an afterthought.

xpost

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Thursday, 14 September 2017 13:28 (six years ago) link

Our office/company has a LOT of hindus and muslims who dont eat any meat, beef in particular.

So the company xmas party 2 years in a row was at a Brazilian BBQ restaurant that basically serves nothing but various meats on skewers.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Thursday, 14 September 2017 23:31 (six years ago) link

I dated someone who had an anecdote about how she and her friend, in younger years, were really drunk and went into one of those places to eat when they were both practicing vegetarians

I think they demanded the baked potatoes and salads and ended up paying a stupid amount of money because it was a one-price-for-all place. I should have seen this as a red flag and not an amusing story of youth, because every week of the relationship had some incident of about this level of demanding idiocy

mh, Thursday, 14 September 2017 23:39 (six years ago) link

Huuuuuhhhh, I think I know why the marketing manager flipped shit at my marketing campaign. I figured out that he's more likely than not stealing money from the owner of the company.

He's been running all these bogus ad campaigns for huge amounts of money, that have not only failed, but damaged the company, and he keeps trying to convince the owner to go further along it. "No, this guy's a genius!" Fuck that, he created ads using Comic Sans that made fun of the audience for the product, and pissed off thousands of people! For over 50 grand! He convinced the owner to buy this horrible product for a million dollars, and keeps calling it a "race car", and he knows damn well it's not.

Dude's using it to steal money from the guy, who's getting older and is a little senile.

The other freelancer noticed some of the bullshit, too. Marketing manager keeps giving the owner this godawful advice that always fails and costs tons of money to do. My ideas came from my background working on actual marketing campaigns for major international brands. I only ended up at this place because my life took a shit-dick turn from my own set of bad advisers...

So now I'm in the cross-hairs of this guy robbing the boss. Yippee. I'm going to work my ass off to find new jobs ASAP.

carpet_kaiser, Friday, 15 September 2017 23:19 (six years ago) link

You know, I wonder if he hired me because I put my corruption investigation experience on my resume ... he said to me "who is stealing my money!" What a weird fucking world, man.

carpet_kaiser, Friday, 15 September 2017 23:35 (six years ago) link

Lad

passé aggresif (darraghmac), Saturday, 16 September 2017 07:19 (six years ago) link

darragh otm

shackling the masses with plastic-wrapped snack picks (sic), Saturday, 16 September 2017 07:25 (six years ago) link

*coughk3rrycough*

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Monday, 18 September 2017 03:18 (six years ago) link

what the hell is an "on-boarding proposal walkthrough" (in relation to me getting out of bed)

a passing spacecadet, Monday, 18 September 2017 08:55 (six years ago) link

My guess is a submitted routine for new employees to follow in their first weeks on the job to be tested and/or inspected in a live meeting, step by step.

*sips coffee*

pplains, Monday, 18 September 2017 13:13 (six years ago) link

Yeah I dont know where the phrase "on-boarding" sprang from suddenly but it seems to be all over like a rash now. We use it to mean "new resellers who we have to guide thru using our ordering systems". Stupid phrase. Whats wrong with "introduction training" ffs.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Tuesday, 19 September 2017 00:14 (six years ago) link

Lad

― passé aggresif (darraghmac), Saturday, September 16, 2017 3:19 AM (two days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yeah, yeah. These people are scumbags and I'm getting the fuck out of there. I've just been in a down point in my life. Fuck all that, life's too short for this crap. Call it a much-needed kick in the ass.

carpet_kaiser, Tuesday, 19 September 2017 00:16 (six years ago) link

sent an email with a series of questions to our tech folks today asking how something would work (as I have no idea).

one of them replies with what he can answer, another adds more info, and then a third jumps in and says "Please ignore everything Neanderthal said as it is 100% correct and if you think it will work this way, you are in BIG trouble", apparently conflating me with the guy who gave the (allegedly) wrong answers.

fun thread.

Neanderthal, Monday, 25 September 2017 21:19 (six years ago) link

INcorrect?!

Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 25 September 2017 23:12 (six years ago) link

ahh yes good catch lol

Neanderthal, Monday, 25 September 2017 23:12 (six years ago) link

two weeks pass...

project manager at work talked to the guy who is replacing my team's customer service leader temporarily due to her unexpected indefinite absence. He apparently groused about the "optics" with our client, that they might think we're "disorganized" since this puts us on our second customer service leader change on this project.

Which might be a reasonable gripe if our second leader wasn't out because her domestic partner is in the hospital with an enlarged heart, serious enough that he's also been added to the transplant list.

fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Sunday, 15 October 2017 01:23 (six years ago) link

he chased this Trump-esque moment by passive-aggressively scheduling a meeting Monday afternoon to talk through her transition and requesting her be there even though she's technically supposed to be on leave.

boy it was a nice 2-3 months without drama, welcome back, missed ye

fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Sunday, 15 October 2017 01:25 (six years ago) link

Fuck, what a dick. Do you have any power to call him on it or report him to HR?

There's a rumour in our office about the CEO getting drunk and harassing women at events. The rumour has him being "over-flirty" but let's not bullshit. Really hoping someone is inspired by the week's events to report him. I'm leaving soon, so I'm preparing for full bridge-burning mode, and trying to work out the best strategy for challenging him before I go.

Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 16 October 2017 12:04 (six years ago) link

leaving do, 12 of us. "let's just get one of each of the starters, share everything and split the bill"...

(plenty of vegetarian options so it turned out ok but... there were also people drinking and people not drinking. and then people were trying to pay with old pound coins (not legal tender since last friday))

koogs, Tuesday, 17 October 2017 13:15 (six years ago) link

finally found another position that opened up that I could feasibly do in this job. Posted for it today. if nothing else it shows my boss I'm srs, and pulls me out from being client-facing. which is 80% of my pain.

fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Saturday, 28 October 2017 18:05 (six years ago) link

yesterday I walked out of a conference call w/ client due to having a panic attack due to her bully-like behavior.

fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Saturday, 28 October 2017 18:09 (six years ago) link

oof that doesn't sound good, hope you're ok

goole, Monday, 30 October 2017 20:46 (six years ago) link

two guys who work near me, one is a dead ringer for john kasich and the other for michel foucault, and i do a triple take whenever i pass either one of them EVERY TIME

goole, Monday, 30 October 2017 20:47 (six years ago) link

i'm the stupid annoying coworker here lbc

goole, Monday, 30 October 2017 20:47 (six years ago) link

typical text message exchange for me, usually once a week or so:

text from CEO: Hey can you email me that sales data?
me: the one I send you every week on Mondays?
CEO: Yes
me: I sent it to you at 7am today. Did you get it?
CEO: Yes
me: And you need it again?
CEO: Yes
me: ??
CEO: I don't have time to search for it in my email today
me: And if I send it to you now, you will be able to find it?
CEO: Yes. And all these texts between us is taking me more time than it would have taken me to actually search for it.
me: Uh, ok.
CEO: thx

Randall Jarrell (dandydonweiner), Monday, 30 October 2017 21:52 (six years ago) link

That sounds very familiar except it's "I accidentally deleted it as soon as I got it" instead of "don't have time to look"

WilliamC, Monday, 30 October 2017 22:06 (six years ago) link

u_u

i got a “project” email that entailed sorting an excel spreadsheet. and that is all.

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 30 October 2017 22:39 (six years ago) link

had another day today where I shut down. no idea how I can get through another day. waiting for recruiter to hopefully pass me to the pre-interview round.

our main client contact, let's just put it this way....

my colleague in the office today told me he was on a conference call during the evening before Irma, and he lives in Orlando too. they were demanding something on the weekend it was to hit and he mentioned something about having to get ready for the storm with his family.

and she remarked something like "he seems more interested in the weather than helping us"

fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 31 October 2017 01:39 (six years ago) link

i got a “project” email that entailed sorting an excel spreadsheet. and that is all.

Man I hope you spun that project out - "working on it, just coming up to the Ns now".

attention vampire (MatthewK), Tuesday, 31 October 2017 02:15 (six years ago) link

lol

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 31 October 2017 02:16 (six years ago) link

So having went back to work part-time after the upthread drama, I was offered a job at a smoothie stand in the mall by the manager who I'm quite pally with as a regular customer. Just a minimum wage job blending fruit and wiping surfaces to tide me over until I get myself sorted to go to uni or something.

It has been a disaster.

The team are all very lazy and last week they put a video of themselves on Whatsapp juggling the fruit we use. On my first shift the new area manager came and paid off the manager who offered me the job, apparently her retailing standards weren't good enough. Today she sacked the supervisor - no warnings or disciplinaries prior. I'm expected at the end of the day to lock up the stand by myself after one shift training how to do it, and locking up involves cashing up and carrying a few hundred quid to the bank by myself. This is a terrible job, isn't it?

boxedjoy, Monday, 6 November 2017 14:07 (six years ago) link

Sounds like you are on the fast track to running the whole show there.

Moodles, Monday, 6 November 2017 19:56 (six years ago) link

there's always money in the smoothie stand

mookieproof, Monday, 6 November 2017 20:16 (six years ago) link

it is creepy, is it not, that a guy i'm supposed to meet about collaborating on some work for the next few weeks checked me linkedin profile the day i was put in touch with him?

coupled with the fact he is blase about meeting to begin this work we've both been asked to collaborate on, i'm feeling negative about him.

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 8 November 2017 10:34 (six years ago) link

checked my* - wasn't intentionally channelling the leprechaun

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 8 November 2017 10:34 (six years ago) link

I get asked to come in on my day off and then later get given out to for asking if there was coffee around when I needed something to wake me up . & apparently wasn't the only person to feel like that.

Stevolende, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 10:57 (six years ago) link

Hi everyone, this year the HR department will distribute a list containing the names and home addresses of all full-time employees to be used for personal Holiday mailings. This list will also include spouses’ names. If you would NOT like to be included on this list, please email your request to _____.

is this weird? i'm sure they mean well but this seems like a bizarre/potentially bad thing to do

mookieproof, Thursday, 9 November 2017 22:52 (six years ago) link

I know that heating up fish in the microwave makes the entire office smell like ass and pisses everyone off...but what if this is the time that doesn't happen?

Fresh Toast (Old Lunch), Thursday, 9 November 2017 22:56 (six years ago) link

Xp that is fucking weird - it should be an opt-in thing, not an opt-out

just1n3, Thursday, 9 November 2017 23:05 (six years ago) link

Mookie yes that’s weird
It should be opt in, not opt out

calstars, Thursday, 9 November 2017 23:06 (six years ago) link

Sounds like a well meaning but inexperienced HR dept there

calstars, Thursday, 9 November 2017 23:07 (six years ago) link

what are "personal Holiday mailings"?

koogs, Thursday, 9 November 2017 23:07 (six years ago) link

hella weird

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 9 November 2017 23:12 (six years ago) link

like horrifying

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 9 November 2017 23:12 (six years ago) link

Yeah thats not good. What if someone's in a DV situation?

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Thursday, 9 November 2017 23:32 (six years ago) link

lol it came directly from the vp of hr, who has held that position since the company was founded 17 years ago. also such a list involves at least 1000 people

idk i mean if you want to give someone a christmas card you can like, hand it to them or something

mookieproof, Friday, 10 November 2017 00:19 (six years ago) link

Having to include "spouses' names" seems really weird. I suppose I probably filled in my next of kin somewhere but otherwise that is bizarre that they'd even have that on file

Colonel Poo, Friday, 10 November 2017 00:32 (six years ago) link

I would never think to send xmas cards to workmates at home, that just... wtf.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Friday, 10 November 2017 00:39 (six years ago) link

Ya, I don’t even send out cards to people I like!

Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 10 November 2017 01:06 (six years ago) link

a coworker started a realty business & sent me a flyer at home - i fired off an email to her like don’t *ever* solicit me at home

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 10 November 2017 01:13 (six years ago) link

that's just wrong. we wanted to send flowers to a co worker at home and hr wouldn't give us her address (rightly so)

kinder, Friday, 10 November 2017 07:54 (six years ago) link

That would be all kinds of illegal here regardless of opt in/out iirc

Gary Synaesthesia (darraghmac), Friday, 10 November 2017 09:08 (six years ago) link

"have you had a chance to do that thing that's been blocking me for a week?"
"no. you just need to look at this component"

looks at this component, it is enormous and does many complicated things...

"ok. i think i need to do this, this and this. is that right?"
"yes. but can you hold off a bit because i'm also working on those files"

gah

we have a deadline two weeks from now. i've spent the last week waiting for this thing but the rest of the team has no sense of urgency at all, keep wandering off and doing other things. frustrating.

and why is this component written in 4 different languages?

koogs, Friday, 10 November 2017 11:24 (six years ago) link

a coworker started a realty business & sent me a flyer at home - i fired off an email to her like don’t *ever* solicit me at home

once some post addressed to my home address appeared in my pigeonhole at work and I was v v v confused/unnerved

it was some political bumpf pretending to be personal mail, pastel-coloured envelope, fake handwriting font, etc

turned out a coworker I barely know who lived round the corner from me was a paid-up party member delivering leaflets and recognised my name and brought it to work

??

a passing spacecadet, Friday, 10 November 2017 21:55 (six years ago) link

weird.

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 11 November 2017 04:38 (six years ago) link

Posted in wrong forum, re posting.

Can someone give me advice on dealing with a work bully. I'm barely 2 months in a new job and the first day training with this person I was feeling sick, so they said "I don't want to babysit you" and "don't half ass it". In my first hour of training on their desk. Since then I've had this individual ask me if I'm sure I understand things I definitely do to today reaming me out for not knowing something, which I apologized for. So I told them I didn't appreciate the way they were talking to me and that there's better methods. They walked away angry. I get along with everyone else but their tone is notably different with me. There's a bully reporting hotline but that's not usually my style.

Week of Wonders (Ross), Saturday, 18 November 2017 00:46 (six years ago) link

Also they go out of their way to correct me and find errors

Week of Wonders (Ross), Saturday, 18 November 2017 00:47 (six years ago) link

I think your honesty with them was a start. It's difficult dealing with work bullies because when you're new, you want to lay low and learn the lay of the land first, and not come across as the "sensitive new guy", but the behavior you described is unacceptable bullshit, and somebody in charge needs to know about it.

All I'd do is self-report to your manager/agency that there was an incident, just honestly mention what you said and share your concerns, that you are looking forward to learning the process, but this type of behavior is making it difficult.

Often time work bullies feed on the idea that nobody will challenge them....sorry that you're having to deal with that!

fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Saturday, 18 November 2017 01:21 (six years ago) link

Maybe he resents having to train someone? Some people are ok at their jobs but SHITE at training others with any patience - a few of my workmates can be snippy impatient cunts sometimes.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Saturday, 18 November 2017 03:30 (six years ago) link

This is also true. The first time I was promoted it was too soon and i took it out on my learners. Had to be told what an SOB i was being

fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Saturday, 18 November 2017 04:03 (six years ago) link

If that person has productivity goals tied into their work, they might be just spraying the stress of all that onto you

It sounds like the kind of training I got in the commercial laundry I worked in, my first day they'd show me something and basically do everything short of actually stab me if I didn't do it exactly how they showed me and then say 'I'm not your babysitter, you need to figure this out' and I'm like I'VE BEEN HERE AN HOUR AND THESE MACHINES CAN CAUSE PHYSICAL HARM, BACK THE FUCK OFF.

Office is a bit different obviously. But one thing I learned is that the whole shitty bullying training thing is often a pose to make you think their work is more important than it really is. That THEY are more important. Sometimes there might be contributing factors like productivity goals, or huge workloads that you don't know about...and they're spraying that stress onto you.

Call it out. Get them to talk about their actual workday. Sometimes that can be a leveller.

But ultimately, it's their job to train you and if they don't like you asking questions, too fucking bad. That's how you learn. If they don't show you what to do in a way that helps you learn, tell them. If that pisses them off, oh well. That's a them problem, not a you problem.

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 18 November 2017 04:42 (six years ago) link

above all you must remember that your worth as a person and is not measured by how much you struggle to adapt to a new and difficult workplace change.

One thing that helped me deal with the last place I worked was to keep in my head the idea of a "tolerance level" - have a clear idea of what is and isn't acceptable to you, and be firm when calling it out. Because it's otherwise easy to let things pass and slide and then that level adjusts and you find yourself in a far worse position (eg, "I'm really unhappy with how this person spoke to me but I suppose I can let it go this one time" gives them permission to do it again)

boxedjoy, Saturday, 18 November 2017 08:38 (six years ago) link

^yes, this exactly

fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Saturday, 18 November 2017 15:21 (six years ago) link

Maybe he resents having to train someone? Some people are ok at their jobs but SHITE at training others

Memories of one brief job (two weeks!) spent watching longingly at the other new person being trained one team over. They'd been paired with a bouncy, chatty, fellow who was really excited about the system and knew how it all worked big picture style. I was paired with a (lovely) taciturn fellow who was clearly expert in the job but just ...

Never changed username before (cardamon), Saturday, 18 November 2017 16:04 (six years ago) link

I would also add to the advice about the bully - keep a diary with dates and contexts

Never changed username before (cardamon), Saturday, 18 November 2017 16:06 (six years ago) link

Thank you everyone, you've made me feel a lot better. I'm still thinking this one through but yeah in regards to productivity goals, this job is very much heads down and work hard and the whole thing runs like a well oiled machine. I like that, just I'm a peaceful guy and definitely agree with the knowing Yr worth angle. Cheers

Week of Wonders (Ross), Saturday, 18 November 2017 21:05 (six years ago) link

Just seconding cardamom--document EVERYTHING

Best of luck, Ross, and hope it gets sorted

Mince Pramthwart (James Morrison), Monday, 20 November 2017 01:32 (six years ago) link

so I posted for a new position a few weeks ago. a more mundane job, less stress.

so got through the final interview, was told I should hear something very fast, no later than last Friday. Generally, if you get the position, it's a call, usually if you don't, it's an email. I know the drill. Friday comes and goes with...neither. Of course.

I figure Monday, I'll get the rejection email. Nope - still nothing. Sent a polite email to recruiter trying to ask, without prodding, if there was any ETA. No reply.

Today comes and goes, again nothing. Just sitting out here in limbo.

My guess is that they over-promised and under-delivered - having participated in these interviews on the other side before, I know that even after a decision is made, there's lots more to do. and the people to do it are sporadically on PTO due to the holiday.

It's just frustrating as, good news or bad, I just want to know the answer. If I didn't get it, there's potentially another position that caught my interest. And another company in the wings. all my brain wants to do now is overanalyze things - 'oh, they didn't say no, well if you for sure didn't get it, wouldn't they tell you right away?'. almost worse than being rejected!

I have to do something, though, as this current job is *killing* me. Even in a calmer period like now, I am getting stressed out anticipating each new thing that might go wrong. Our client contact is a nasty bully, and instead of providing internal support, our Executives are shitting it back on us. I've given it right back to them but I am just exhausted at this point.

fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 22 November 2017 01:23 (six years ago) link

there was actually a time I was wishing to be hospitalized with something relatively minor that would lay me up for a week just so I could escape this project.

fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 22 November 2017 01:25 (six years ago) link

Don't wanna be bleak but have you checked your Junk email box?

attention vampire (MatthewK), Wednesday, 22 November 2017 01:27 (six years ago) link

yeah nothing there - as it's internal email though our junk mail boxes tend to be relatively empty.

I have wondered if the emails have been going to a dude who has a name that is identical to mine within 3 letters who inexplicably is still sent emails intended for me by lazy senders.

fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 22 November 2017 01:30 (six years ago) link

Just seconding cardamom--document EVERYTHING

yes. this. even though it is a pain in the ass, and takes extra time and energy away from you. it is your sword and shield.

A is for (Aimless), Wednesday, 22 November 2017 01:36 (six years ago) link

agreed. so necessary. it's the only way.
to document, send yourself emails (outside of work time) so everything is time-stamped.

alomar lines, Wednesday, 22 November 2017 02:12 (six years ago) link

not a person i know but on a huge slack channel for the digital parts of the uk government, somebody asked a question seeking a person who could help them in a particular area.

another person replied (and i'm changing the name slightly): "yes, jill smith is your man"

i'm prob not particularly sensitive to sexism but this goes into the realm of the bizarre.

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 28 November 2017 15:48 (six years ago) link

We're having our own Google diversity memo moment here - but with a very much lower quality of debate.

Luna Schlosser, Tuesday, 28 November 2017 16:11 (six years ago) link

As a manager, you have the option of following up on something an employee is handling by explicitly inquiring about the status, but it's probably more fun to just passive-aggressively ask 'are you behind in your work? do you need help? what's going on?' without even mentioning what prompted the line of questioning in the first place. Particularly when there's already a well-established timeframe for similar tasks which had not been surpassed and also no other attendant issues which might have prompted such a demonstration of 'concern'. Such cool, awesome behavior that totally makes me want to put in anything more than the most perfunctory effort.

Ripped Taylor (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 29 November 2017 17:31 (six years ago) link

How hard is it to update a calendar to clearly indicate when you're on PTO?

Like the fifth meeting I had to reschedule because somebody had undocumented PTO on their calendars.

fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Thursday, 30 November 2017 22:46 (six years ago) link

Christmas music in the office... fucking awful.

I love Christmas but there's no real need to force it into the office, it's about family and friends, and alcohol.

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 5 December 2017 08:25 (six years ago) link

Yes, playing with Christmas decorations is more important than the urgent job I gave you last Wednesday. Of course it is. Yes, a hat with a bell, hahaha.

Thomas Gabriel Fischer does not endorse (aldo), Tuesday, 5 December 2017 10:05 (six years ago) link

all of my worst job moments have involved the music which is forced upon you. it's a workers rights issue imo

ogmor, Tuesday, 5 December 2017 11:04 (six years ago) link

why I love working from home, lol

fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 5 December 2017 13:37 (six years ago) link

still can't stand lena horne thanks to my first retail xmas 23 years ago

mookieproof, Tuesday, 5 December 2017 15:13 (six years ago) link

I went to the dentist yesterday and they had their radio tuned to the Christmas station instead of their usual soft hits, and it was way worse. I can't imagine having to listen to Christmas tunes all day, every day for a month straight. The worst job I ever had was terrible mainly because they forced me to listen to hits radio all day, so I was subjected to endless Alanis Morissette and Spin Doctors. My wife spent a lot of time working in various clothing chain stores, and she always talks about how sick they would get of the peppy/trendy mixes that they play all day long on repeat.

Moodles, Tuesday, 5 December 2017 15:31 (six years ago) link

I don't understand why people want to bring Xmas music into work. Like I get why shops play it into the floor (even if it drives me crazy) but if I'm in a stockroom or office I don't want to hear it. It's so innappropriate too, I know Christmas is barely a religious holiday any more but it bothers me that people want to inflict their religious celebrations upon me as a committed atheist.

workplace music in retail is the worst, it's the mix of anodyne "suitable for work" blandness and constant repetition that will drive you demented.

boxedjoy, Tuesday, 5 December 2017 19:01 (six years ago) link

I've never worked in an office in which any music was played. Is this a common thing? Just seems completely wrong, no matter what kind of music is played.

silverfish, Tuesday, 5 December 2017 20:01 (six years ago) link

modern corporate office buildings skew toward white noise machines, most definitely

mh, Tuesday, 5 December 2017 20:02 (six years ago) link

yeah, I think it's pretty uncommon.

The one I mentioned was in the office of a small business back in the 90s and it was utter hell.

Moodles, Tuesday, 5 December 2017 20:05 (six years ago) link

feel like every week is a variant of...

Person A: how is "xxx" coming along?
Person B: wouldn't know, I'm not responsible - contact Joe Bob about that
Person A: oh ok thx

~one week later~

Person A: Looking for an update from you on "xxx"?
(Person B self-immolates)

fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 5 December 2017 20:51 (six years ago) link

(btw I didn't get the internal job I posted for, though I met the criteria...probably 2nd in line.

got another one I'm going for in a month)

fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 5 December 2017 20:51 (six years ago) link

At my current office the sales team are allowed to choose a song to play if they make a sale.

I've worked in factories where a radio is on all day, didn't bother me that much although tbf it wasn't Christmas and the main job I'm thinking of I was allowed to listen to a walkman so I could drown it out if say Chris Evans was getting on my nerves

Colonel Poo, Tuesday, 5 December 2017 22:40 (six years ago) link

At my current office the sales team are allowed to choose a song to play if they make a sale.

great chance for some Wyatting

shackling the masses with plastic-wrapped snack picks (sic), Wednesday, 6 December 2017 05:54 (six years ago) link

Mercyful Fate

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 6 December 2017 06:32 (six years ago) link

i am going to kill my manager (except he’s not my manager - i have two: both of whom claim and deny they’re my manager when it suits them).

too many instances to list, but one of my most illustrative favourites was when we moved offices and just in the way of things i got a fairly decent window seat. i took a couple of days holiday and when i got back he’d shifted himself to the window seat because he was more “important”. it was too funny and sad and obv in the grand scheme of things petty to make any sort of comment about. plus it’s a great example of his vanity, ego, neediness and complete self-defensive wilful ignorance of same.

Fizzles, Wednesday, 6 December 2017 06:35 (six years ago) link

we had piped commercial radio in the govt office i worked in in the 90 s riiiiight around when the cranberries “zombie” got played enth times a day ugh. to this day i hate it and heart shaped box bcs that.
Once, i snuck into the safe and changed the station to PBS (community radio). despite it playing koori tribal music no one noticed for about 15 mins. then they all yelled “what’s this shit!?”

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Wednesday, 6 December 2017 06:42 (six years ago) link

when i worked at the laundry my goal was to get a job on the steam press bcz then you could have your *own* radio tuned to whatever you wanted & not have to listen to the one on the workfloor

i was never so overjoyed to listen to morning news & talk radio lol

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 6 December 2017 06:51 (six years ago) link

one summer i worked the night shift stocking shelves at a supermarket, where 'classic hits of the 60s/70s/80s' radio played the same songs over and over in different permutations. the highlight of each night was 'suspicious minds'

mookieproof, Wednesday, 6 December 2017 15:31 (six years ago) link

I worked at the supermarket all through high school and undergrad and was subjected to a horrifying combination of Muzak and the owner loudly whistling along. What I wouldn't have given for classics instead.

Lyudmila Pavlichenko (dandydonweiner), Wednesday, 6 December 2017 17:41 (six years ago) link

When i worked at Best Buy, opening supervisor played Bob Marley's Legend every day for two weeks prior to opening

fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 6 December 2017 18:09 (six years ago) link

Well shops play music all the time anyway so thats a lil different... I think I'd go insane if I had to hear thay Woolworths "down down, prices are down!" jingle every 4 songs.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Thursday, 7 December 2017 00:54 (six years ago) link

Is public Christmas music a bigger thing in UK and Aus than the US? I feel like I hardly ever hear it in stores here--not big box ones anyway. I heard that Tesco has a santa voice saying "hohoho thank you for shopping at tesco!" or some shit at the register after every transaction!? I think people would lose their shit if a store did that over here

Dan I., Thursday, 7 December 2017 01:01 (six years ago) link

Depends on the store I suppose, but I'm sure some shops here play at least some chrimbo-related shite, Crosby and whatever. I try and avoid shops at this time of year tbh. All hail online ordering.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Thursday, 7 December 2017 01:27 (six years ago) link

I worked at an Italian restaurant for 8 years full time and we played the same 3 CDs that entire time. I fucking hate dean Martin and frank Sinatra as a result.

just1n3, Thursday, 7 December 2017 01:41 (six years ago) link

Wheeeeeennnnn the moon hits your eye like a big pizza ow ow ow stop hitting me

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Thursday, 7 December 2017 02:44 (six years ago) link

some Australian supermarkets play music all the time, but one of the greatest joys of shopping is wandering the aisles listening to a podcast so no idea what they're playing

shackling the masses with plastic-wrapped snack picks (sic), Thursday, 7 December 2017 05:06 (six years ago) link

Music itt > ilm

remember the lmao (darraghmac), Thursday, 7 December 2017 08:32 (six years ago) link

italian restaurants just play youtube videos of italian restaurant music now

ogmor, Thursday, 7 December 2017 09:18 (six years ago) link

My local Iraqi owned Pizza/fast food place permanently has Russian Music Box TV on with inaudible sound, it's pretty cool tbh.

calzino, Thursday, 7 December 2017 09:24 (six years ago) link

upthread i told the sorry tale of my colleague who was constantly late for work/meetings, and rude/defensive generally difficult, whose contract was eventually not renewed.

since that event, which he took badly and kind of assumed by some deep neurotic kink could only be because "i was asking too many difficult questions" rather than "just turn up to work on time, you're in your 40s", he has been contacting my boss a lot to ask for references or that kind of thing, also keeps trying to rejoin our team slack channel.

this week he emailed me and suggested we go for a beer "to see how everything is going over there"

i was joking for a while to my boss that he was like the stereotypical jilted husband parking outside his ex-wife's house listening to "who's going to drive you home" but now i actually kind of think it might be a bit like that. he's an okay guy and i am sure i could have a beer with him but it's christmas, i'm studying, and time is fairly precious at the moment. i'm turning down things i'd like to be doing.

feel like i might just not reply. or reply and say "sure how about in the new year" and hope it goes away.

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Thursday, 7 December 2017 11:05 (six years ago) link

Just in a workshop where an astonishing people feel they should speak up to say in a round-table to say “we need to know more about x”, where it’s clear they haven’t bothered to acquaint themselves with the most basic details of the subject under-discussion.

Luna Schlosser, Thursday, 7 December 2017 11:17 (six years ago) link

*astonishing amount of people

Luna Schlosser, Thursday, 7 December 2017 11:17 (six years ago) link

feel like i might just not reply. or reply and say "sure how about in the new year"

tell him 'let's circle back and touch base in Q1'

mookieproof, Thursday, 7 December 2017 15:51 (six years ago) link

why do they assign mandatory CBTs during the holidays why why why

fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Thursday, 7 December 2017 16:08 (six years ago) link

tell him 'let's circle back and touch base in Q1'

"i've been visioneering some potential dates - i'll show you the prototype"

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Thursday, 7 December 2017 16:29 (six years ago) link

Tictac on future bevvies going fwd ;p

remember the lmao (darraghmac), Thursday, 7 December 2017 16:34 (six years ago) link

never heard "tictac"

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Thursday, 7 December 2017 16:35 (six years ago) link

We've discussed before I think

That thing where one place gets the contract to deliver X service to the govt

And they have consequently designate one person directly talking to an entire dept or several departments for X period of time like they know anything

And even though they are patently spiv and incompetent and have the hair of a mothered teenager and their only apparent talent is an ability to spinelessly apologise for the inadequacy of their offering

Nonetheless every verbal tic or personal foible is taken as "the terminology" sin é an rud nua now

So some curtained fuck called Craig says tictac to a tranche of middle managers a few times

And now every cunt tic-tacs

This, this is how we live now.

remember the lmao (darraghmac), Thursday, 7 December 2017 16:41 (six years ago) link

lol.

the amount of people who just get paid to host meetings or suggest new places to store files/log work.

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Thursday, 7 December 2017 16:43 (six years ago) link

It can be that kind of purgatory but if I'm honest it's usually quite an interesting and challenging gig, if you have the freedom to self-direct and not get listless

But Jesus the lost souls that you see drifting as you make your own course between projects or whatever, the purgatorial mists populated by Vietnam vet states and bad British sitcom personalities....it's fascinating but shuddering stuff

brb have to tictac

remember the lmao (darraghmac), Thursday, 7 December 2017 16:49 (six years ago) link

this week he emailed me and suggested we go for a beer "to see how everything is going over there"

yeahhhhh, I'd be immediately dev/nulling that guy, but as a female that sorta thing puts my hackles up more I guess.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Friday, 8 December 2017 03:56 (six years ago) link

that tic-tac things is brilliant and otm. we’ve got a couple of them at the moment. one looks like joffrey and the other is a very business-speak and slick-to-the-point-of-oily south african. they have both been given waaaay too much to do. they have always been v polite and courteous. both are 12 years old obviously.

they also refer continually to the importance of “crisp messaging” to such an extent a senior manager addressed a large staff meeting on where he stressed the importance of “keeping our messaging really crispy”.

Fizzles, Friday, 8 December 2017 07:14 (six years ago) link

suggested we go for a beer "to see how everything is going over there"

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A8sfql5CMAEH5o8.jpg

attention vampire (MatthewK), Friday, 8 December 2017 11:21 (six years ago) link

about a year ago 20 of my colleagues, who i'd worked with for years, were offered new jobs, and i was given a bunch of money to go away. i miss them and would like to see them again but don't know how you'd arrange to catch up with them without sounding like this guy.

meanwhile, someone on our team is trying to arrange christmas drinks which will include contractors who left 8 months ago. they seem up for it.

currently in the office they are trying to steal the batteries from the tv remote control for use in the christmas lights... i predict a lot of useless wireless mice in a couple of months.

koogs, Friday, 8 December 2017 11:43 (six years ago) link

Our holiday party is today.

FKA (doo dah), Friday, 8 December 2017 12:20 (six years ago) link

The party is at 2:00. My co-workers have started drinking already. It's 9:15 AM.

FKA (doo dah), Friday, 8 December 2017 14:26 (six years ago) link

shudder. do you have to go?

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Friday, 8 December 2017 14:44 (six years ago) link

just tell them later you were drinking too and fell asleep in the toilet right before the party

mh, Friday, 8 December 2017 14:49 (six years ago) link

I am hiding in my office. We are the department who puts it on, so I will have to go up and help when the caterers show up and make sure things are in place. *sigh*

FKA (doo dah), Friday, 8 December 2017 15:38 (six years ago) link

Ok you're new and as an org we're not great at getting people settled and I only joined in January and in fact I'm only joining this team the same time you are and I'm happy to help because I'm being a better guy than previous and because I remember it's not ideal

But lookit

You need to let people finish their sentences
And you need to listen to what they are telling you
And you need not to keep saying how you did things in your last job.

I'm sorry. You just do.

And motherfucker there's a new rule I just made up it's all yours so go ahead check it out see how it works for you write your name on it and put it in your drawer nobody else has this rule here it is you don't get to use the word "should" anymore that word is not for you anymore.

And I'm only telling you this because listen here's the thing I'm actually trying to be a better guy. No seriously this was my big effort. I know right.

remember the lmao (darraghmac), Friday, 8 December 2017 17:49 (six years ago) link

the "how I did things in my last job" is my hugest pet peeve. had one rep do this over and over again years ago and the problem was his previous job was working at Fuddruckers and he was now working in a call center.

fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Friday, 8 December 2017 20:38 (six years ago) link

booming post dmac

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 9 December 2017 05:19 (six years ago) link

Hysteresis does not justify setting the room thermostat at 25c (77f). Especially when that thing is blowing negatively refreshing warm dry air right down on to the top of my head.

Monogo doesn't socialise (ledge), Tuesday, 12 December 2017 10:46 (six years ago) link

saga of the smoothie stand continues:

we have a Whatsapp group chat for the whole team including the manager (there's only six of us). This morning said manager texts the group "can everyone who is working this weekend wear a Xmas jumper please?" and I take an hour to calm down upon seeing it. I don't celebrate Xmas and I haven't done it for five or six years - I find it stressful and costly and unfulfilling and I'm much happier at home by myself with a book than I am traipsing around Scotland trying to catch all sides of my family for an arbitrary day of food I'm not fussed about having. But I could just as easily not be celebrating for religious reasons or to avoid the shadow of grief and trauma in my life or any number of reasons - the point is, I really resent the assumption that I partake in the festivities. I can tolerate Xmas music, I can tolerate a tree in the staff room, but I don't want to spend my money (which, in all honesty, I probably don't have to spare anyway) on a jumper that's ugly to celebrate a holiday I no longer have time for.

So I calmly reply in the group chat so everyone can see I don't take part and that way it helps me fend off questions later. "Is this going to be a thing going forward? Only I don't take part in Xmas for personal reasons and I really don't have the money or inclination to buy a jumper to mark a holiday I don't celebrate. I don't mind you guys having the Xmas playlists on or wearing jumpers but its important to me that I don't have to do this. Sorry!" I think that's as firm/polite as I can be in saying "you cannot coerce me into this and the fact you are trying is a terrible idea", it feels perilously close to an HR situation to force someone to wear clothes that potentially compromise their religious beliefs and I think it's important that a lesson is learned here.

it turns out, every branch of the chain is doing this to raise money for charity. I replied "oh I didn't realise. I'm happy to donate!" I haven't heard anything more about it yet. But it's such a shitty approach, to assume "seasonal" is a default setting. I wish we lived in a world where people asked "are you doing anything for the holidays?" and not "what will you be doing?"

boxedjoy, Tuesday, 12 December 2017 22:22 (six years ago) link

i'm hearing/reading a lot of this horrible insidious shit lately. a friend on twitter was talking about how she works in a shop and there's a "pyjama or onesie day" which is mandatory.

wish people would abandon this fever for behaving like fucking infants or at the very least not enforce it as a rule in a place someone must attend in order to earn money to live.

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 12 December 2017 22:25 (six years ago) link

I mean, when I go into a shop or whatever when this is happens, the staff don't ever seem to be that more motivated or happy because of their enforced "fun", if anything its the opposite - the sense of embarassment and frustration just makes it seem so demeaning and I don't want to spend money if it encourages this sort of thing

boxedjoy, Tuesday, 12 December 2017 22:36 (six years ago) link

Our secret santa was opt OUT this year which of course caught a bunch of people off guard when they lazily didnt reply to the email and are now stuck with it.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Wednesday, 13 December 2017 00:12 (six years ago) link

my boss messaged all of us to tell us he wanted his Secret Santa to donate the money in his name to our internal <Insert Company Name> Lives Matter fund.

then tells us we're under no obligation to do that ourselves while he's clearly trying to get us all to do it.

not really a 'Secret Santa' anymore at that point.

fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 13 December 2017 03:02 (six years ago) link

Haha our office manager just set up a gift registry for ours! Its actually not a bad idea, dunno why no one thot of it before

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Wednesday, 13 December 2017 03:06 (six years ago) link

we use Elfster

fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 13 December 2017 03:08 (six years ago) link

I asked for a King Diamond t-shirt because I'm the black sheep of the department and don't want a shitty candle or a King James Bible

fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 13 December 2017 03:08 (six years ago) link

whoa people actually gift bibles in a secret santa? what if you gave them a gideons bible you obviously picked up at a motel?

mh, Wednesday, 13 December 2017 03:24 (six years ago) link

I wouldn't actually get somebody one, but one of my Secret Santas listed her 3 favorite books as gift ideas and Bible was #1

I got her one of her other items, a candle.

fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 13 December 2017 03:31 (six years ago) link

it was something like Bible, Sidney Sheldon novel, Archie comic or something

fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 13 December 2017 03:31 (six years ago) link

whoa people actually gift bibles in a secret santa?

LOL someone gave someone else a singing mini Koran in one of my old jobs.
Then again that same company thought giving a red lacy bra to a lady whod had breast cancer was funny somehow

I feel like I have told this story before.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Wednesday, 13 December 2017 04:01 (six years ago) link

the FUCK?

fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 13 December 2017 04:02 (six years ago) link

at one of my previous jobs, a colleague gave one of the bosses (male) a ball gag in the secret santa. tbf to the boss, he put it on in the restaurant

calumerio, Wednesday, 13 December 2017 10:01 (six years ago) link

same company thought giving a red lacy bra to a lady whod had breast cancer was funny somehow

!!!!!!!!

Chuck_Tatum, Wednesday, 13 December 2017 10:33 (six years ago) link

Those are exclamation marks in place of my ability to conceive of what the fuck they were thinking.

Chuck_Tatum, Wednesday, 13 December 2017 10:34 (six years ago) link

The Office apparently wasn't nearly awful enough

Thomas NAGL (Neil S), Wednesday, 13 December 2017 10:34 (six years ago) link

There is a special place in hell for people who stand in the elevator jabbing the close door button while other people are still trying to get in

badg, Wednesday, 13 December 2017 19:05 (six years ago) link

But is there a special elevator to get there

remember the lmao (darraghmac), Wednesday, 13 December 2017 19:08 (six years ago) link

what if the people trying to get in are bad

mh, Wednesday, 13 December 2017 19:24 (six years ago) link

i had to move from an amazing desk in an open area with a skyline view to a small dark room. the desks are arranged in such a way that when i'm sitting at my desk, there's about a 6 inch space between the back of my chair and the desk behind me. this fucking guy who needs way more clearance than that insists on squeezing through that small area behind me, despite there being another unobstructed path to the door. dude's stomach bumps my chair every time and for whatever reason he's getting up about 200 times a day.

scoff walker (diamonddave85), Wednesday, 13 December 2017 20:05 (six years ago) link

sometimes i'll catch a glimpse of him at the fork in the road and see a flash of decision making going on in his head, and he ALWAYS chooses the path behind my desk

scoff walker (diamonddave85), Wednesday, 13 December 2017 20:07 (six years ago) link

bossman in an officewide email: "today we celebrate the black women who led the charge to the polls for doug jones's victory last night in alabama"
guy i share my office with, to no one in particular: "tf we doin celebratin another corporate ass white man ascending the ladder of the blue wing of the corporatist party"
me: i'm gonna get lunch. you want anything?

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 13 December 2017 20:09 (six years ago) link

i had to move from a desk below a skylight to a small dark room, which i'm actually okay with, but this motherfucker now sitting a row behind me will not shut up

mookieproof, Wednesday, 13 December 2017 20:21 (six years ago) link

haha same with my dude too. and on top of that, he has a weird ass voice

scoff walker (diamonddave85), Wednesday, 13 December 2017 20:44 (six years ago) link

The close door button doesn't actually do anything unless you have a key. Hence why nothing happens the majority of times it's pressed

fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 13 December 2017 23:09 (six years ago) link

It works in our building

badg, Wednesday, 13 December 2017 23:42 (six years ago) link

Yeah this "close buttons are fake in lifts" thing is odd, cos Ive definitely been in buildings where it has worked (as in there is a marked time diff in using or not using it)

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Thursday, 14 December 2017 02:35 (six years ago) link

(however, the main reason the ones here don't do anything is due to the ADA laws, so it's possible other countries don't work the same way)

fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Thursday, 14 December 2017 02:38 (six years ago) link

How does the ADA law relate to it?

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Thursday, 14 December 2017 02:39 (six years ago) link

The law requires that the elevator door must remain fully open for a specified amount of time, to allow those with disabilities extra time to get on. once that was passed in the 1990s, the buttons basically became placebos in US elevators.

fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Thursday, 14 December 2017 02:43 (six years ago) link

ah ok makes sense

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Thursday, 14 December 2017 02:43 (six years ago) link

my biggest pet peeve when I go into the office - when the elevator has room for more people but everybody has needlessly shoved forward, making the elevator look full to capacity. most people just say "I'll get the next one", except this happens in the majority of the elevators around 5 pm, so you might wait a while. when it happens to me I just get on and make the people spread out like they're supposed to.

fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Thursday, 14 December 2017 02:47 (six years ago) link

Secret Santa today at 4:30 motherfuckers :D

harbinger of failure (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 14 December 2017 16:09 (six years ago) link

Ask me about our work lotto syndicate when I'm sober

remember the lmao (darraghmac), Thursday, 14 December 2017 19:54 (six years ago) link

A new coworker has proposed a game for our department office party later this week. We each write down one fact about ourselves on a yellow index card. The cards are then pulled from a hat and read aloud and the rest of us try to guess who it is.

how's life, Tuesday, 19 December 2017 23:04 (six years ago) link

department office holiday party

how's life, Tuesday, 19 December 2017 23:05 (six years ago) link

"I once killed a man just to watch him die"

"I own 3 kimonos"

fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 20 December 2017 04:56 (six years ago) link

"I secretly touched all the door knobs in the office with my genitals."

attention vampire (MatthewK), Wednesday, 20 December 2017 06:08 (six years ago) link

“i am made of bees”

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 20 December 2017 06:11 (six years ago) link

My shit client told an already overwhelmed colleague "I have no idea why you highlighted those rows in purple" and her asshole Waldorf stand-in muttered derisively "maybe she's color-blind".

The person who prepared the Excel...a good friend...actually is colorblind. Our leaders...said nothing.

I have never wanted to hit so many people.

fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Saturday, 23 December 2017 01:52 (six years ago) link

ugh

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 23 December 2017 04:12 (six years ago) link

I swear 90% of workplace assholery and bad undercurrents come from people making assumptions instead of politely asking questions. I idealistically think more workplace diversity will help a little because people will encounter more situations where choices they don’t understand will require people to ask and *scales fall from eyes* but some people just won’t get it

I remember switching to a new software development group and being pleasantly surprised that every application had a settings in the options for an alternate color palette, because one of the senior members of the group is color blind! And the feedback from users was great.

mh, Saturday, 23 December 2017 17:17 (six years ago) link

Yea. The guy running our project takes it deeper by asking a presumably innocent question, then chasing it with a snarky remark dripping with judgment.

"Can you research why the rep didn't reference the enrollment materials? We had thought you would share these with the team and that you were on top of this."

So like what is my interest in replying in earnest when you've already presumed my incompetence.

All this for a project we are probably in the red on.

fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Saturday, 23 December 2017 17:33 (six years ago) link

so my project has several key processes that won't be ready on our project's live date in our system (and won't be for 2.5 weeks). I have been tasked with training people on two of them this week, despite me not having confidence in how they work given that they're not available to test in QA.

I've never handled one of them before, the other is completely custom, I've had a ton of technical questions spanning several weeks that I've had to escalate just to get half answers or no answers, and then pretty much everybody who answers those questions decided to take the last few weeks off on PTO. For one of them I was told only one person knew the answers and he's been gone since 12/18.

I've kind of given up and just phoned in a C- effort today because i can't even

fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Thursday, 28 December 2017 23:59 (six years ago) link

we take death reports for life insurance claim processing. we inherited about 12 cases where the person died prior to we took over as recordkeeper, so our admin team has to apply special handling to.

We're on day 9 now since we took over, and they haven't touched a single one of the 12 cases. so people keep calling back. and the main guy they're assigned to blurted out that he had no idea what he was doing yesterday.

fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Thursday, 11 January 2018 23:23 (six years ago) link

There is a guy who works on another team at my job... we'll call him Explainer Man, for reasons which will become obvious.

Explainer Man is annoying as hell. He believes he knows the answer to everything and if he overhears or is somehow exposed to any issue, regardless of whether he is directly involved or not, Explainer Man will immediately intrude and outline his (usually crazy and wrong) theory about what is happening or the best approach to solving the problem. He has interrupted me on at least one occasion while a team member I supervise was asking me a question. The problem is that what Explainer Man is saying usually sounds convincing to someone who isn't a subject matter expert, because he is very good at bullshitting The craziness of some of his explanations even make them seem more plausible in this context.

In some ways my dealings with Explainer Man have been personally enlightening, because I feel like he is a dark mirror of what I could personally become when supervising people on my team. So I am basically trying not to be Explainer Man. The problem is, if you lay back and try not to be Explainer Man, that kind of allows more room for Explainer Man to suck all the oxygen out of the room. I'm pretty sure some of the less savvy people in our department think he is a genius.

Explainer Man is white, around 40, and something is also off about the way he interacts with younger women on his team. I can't put my finger on it, but he seems to particularly direct his explaining on them. This is relevant because...

As mentioned, in the past I just thought this guy was annoying. But recently I took over for my manager temporarily while she went out on medical leave and prior to leaving, she took me in a conference room for a private ,off-the-record conversation about... a number of problematic individuals. One of these people was Explainer Man who apparently has a history of harassment. My manager had previously been his direct supervisor and almost fired him for insubordination, except he posted out before she could build enough of a paper trail on him. He would routinely contradict her, felt she let being a manager "go to her head," and basically undermined her at every opportunity. She told her manager in our current group not to hire him under any circumstances when he interviewed. She thinks he slipped through because of the amount of people being hired and the group interview process, which is charitable of her. (Not to give too much away, but our higher level managers are largely white male former federal law enforcement officers in their 50's or older... we work in financial crimes risk management. To the extent I've personally dealt with them I get the impression that their political views border on the fascistic. I definitely wouldn't expect much sensitivity from them.).

Recently another manager went out on medical leave (basically the only other female manager) and he was FOR SOME INEXPLICABLE REASON EXCEPT YEAH THE PATRIARCHY being considered at her replacement. She again told her manager not to give this man any power, because if he was given any formal authority, he would probably find some way to abuse it. It appears this was disregarded and he's an acting team manager, causing chaos everywhere with his incompetent micromanagement. I have no idea what life must be for people on this team. Apparently he calls them in the evening to check in on their work. I'm busy with my own team and I don't really have time to look over his shoulder, and yeah it's not my job to manage him.

Anyway, this man appears destined to be my peer at the company (as mentioned we're both acting managers and I think he also posted for one of a few openings that have come up, as have I). Obviously I hate him, but I also kind of fear his ability to seemingly escape any consequences for his incompetence and abuse of the people around him. I dislike confrontation, but I'm also aware that I am the kind of person our idiot meathead bosses might actually listen to (i.e. not a woman, not a minority). Not that I have anything concrete to tell them.

I'm aware this is all kinds of fucked up, or maybe it's par for the course. I have no idea. My moral compass is probably 360 degrees of fucked after years of working at a place like this. Sorry for typing all this... this is the first time I've really fully articulated my issues with what is happening in any forum.

Old Neon, Friday, 12 January 2018 19:43 (six years ago) link

So I am basically trying not to be Explainer Man.

I feel like my Explainer Man tendencies are mostly limited to ilx these days (sorry guys) but yes, this is a life epiphany many people need

mh, Friday, 12 January 2018 19:44 (six years ago) link

do any of you have the typical "Escalating Telephone Game" issue at work? I was out sick today with a bad sinus infection, only to log in to see what emails I missed end of day and find the following:

1) two mgrs ask a question about a recent configuration change made that they think was done "in error"
2) the dude who co-sponsored the change, instead of explaining why it was valid, misinterprets what they're saying and opens the door for them to start reverting these changes
3) actual directives are given in a task to begin undoing some of the work
4) I spend 40 minutes having to explain why they changes were correct and should not be reverted, while angrily wondering why the co-sponsor couldn't just do me a solid when I was sick and handle it properly rather than make it worse!

fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Monday, 22 January 2018 23:32 (six years ago) link

oh most definitely

I have a coworker who has some... tendencies.. that remind me of myself in years past. If something is in question, they'll ask why they have to do it, and if you respond relatively quickly with an answer they don't like, they'll get irritated and very... engaged

first message: this seems complicated, can we do it Y way. this is a standard software service we have implemented, everyone calls it the same way, we don't need to support a one-off

I pass it on to my coworker who handles the security stuff. He says yeah, you need to do this and this. They respond "why do I have to do <thing that isn't quite right>" and he clarifies. Then it escalates into a chain of single sentence questions, sent about a minute apart, for ten minutes without us able to get a word in edgewise.

like I was never quite this intense and not about work stuff, but the rapid-fire frantic thing makes me have to take a breath and calm down because this is exactly how my brain worked when I was EXTREMELY ANXIOUS all the time. it's just not good for my mental health to engage with them like this

mh, Monday, 22 January 2018 23:41 (six years ago) link

sorry, this was me talking, not the questioner
this is a standard software service we have implemented, everyone calls it the same way, we don't need to support a one-off

mh, Monday, 22 January 2018 23:42 (six years ago) link

Finding it difficult to take my boss seriously since she came to me to ask me how to keep her shoelaces tied a few months ago.
But then finding I'm supposed to.

Stevolende, Monday, 22 January 2018 23:47 (six years ago) link

I feel that with the rapid-fire response example above. I find myself having to leave messages unread until I've had time to let the moment pass!

fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 23 January 2018 00:17 (six years ago) link

kudos to the colleague who has worn a faded blue Rockport sweatshirt into work today

Thomas NAGL (Neil S), Tuesday, 23 January 2018 12:52 (six years ago) link

I just got a phone call thru the normal IVR queue customers'd call in via. I get a roomful of blokes on speakerphone talking, and not acknowledging my "hello? hello?" and it dawns on me that
a) they cant hear me
b) its my Sydney office sales team
c) they're bitching about my team, and the fact we dont answer the phone ever
d) this isnt true but theyre railing about it anyway not realising I'm hearing the lot

I ended up hanging up but man, that was an earful to hear. THANKS GUYS.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Thursday, 25 January 2018 02:48 (six years ago) link

^wtf, why do people assume that just cos someone can't be heard, they aren't actually there on the line? there were a few times where I was silent not because I couldn't be heard, but because people were already talking when I joined, and then they'd talk about me like I wasn't there, so I'd surprise them with a hello.

fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Thursday, 25 January 2018 16:17 (six years ago) link

the best comparison I can give for my department currently = that episode of The Bozo Show where Cookie has a fish stand with a sign that says "Fresh Fish Sold Here Today" and Wizzo comes by and criticizes the sign for what he perceives is an overabundance of information and keeps ripping off pieces of the cardboard sign until eventually there's no sign left.

fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Thursday, 25 January 2018 16:19 (six years ago) link

I think with that call they thought they'd hung up, but hadnt properly.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Friday, 26 January 2018 03:35 (six years ago) link

Larry sanders shatner .gif

i,CloudiOS (darraghmac), Friday, 26 January 2018 09:40 (six years ago) link

the other day I was attending a virtual training when one of the learners, thinking they were muted, said loudly "what the fuck is this?"....was quite amusing.

fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Friday, 26 January 2018 10:26 (six years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Trying to get transferred atm as this is one of the most toxic jobs I've had the pleasure of doing. Every day it's one off comments like "you're wasting your time doing it this way" when I'm really not or like someone throwing someone under the bus via email. People get away with a lot when they're "blunt" as it blurs the line between bullying and passive aggressive bossiness. I'm within the union so there's a fair degree of protection for those who are good at their job but are soul sucking Jerks

kolakube (Ross), Thursday, 22 February 2018 18:06 (six years ago) link

that shit erodes you slowly over time too. hoping you get transferred to a place not full of shitbeaks

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Thursday, 22 February 2018 22:27 (six years ago) link

I too have applied for a new position (full time trainer) - fairly sure I will have a good shot at getting it, as I have 12 years of related experience within the firm. it just a) might be a slight pay cut and b) not be the oasis I am hoping it will be.

but I have to leave. we've stopped consulting our clients - we have a new one that is demanding all of the customer agents read a 7-page script while helping people enroll in health benefits on calls. 7 pages, shittily formatted, in Word.

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Thursday, 22 February 2018 22:28 (six years ago) link

two weeks pass...

my worst co-worker's behavior is starting to annoy people other than me to the point where i believe a supervisor will have to tell her to stop soon and then we will suffer days of sulking and pass-agg social media posts/memes. she takes all her calls on speakerphone and talks very loud with the door open and she is just annoying in general and now has been making backhanded comments to me about stuff i like and don't like and today she was burning a fucking disgusting candle. i walked by and was like can you please put that out? my eyes were watering. it smelled like an overripe melon.

forensic plumber (harbl), Friday, 9 March 2018 00:10 (six years ago) link

10 minute standup every day at 10. always starts 3 minutes late because one of them can't be dragged away from his keyboard. and 2 of them drift away before the end, or start editing the whiteboard, or looking at their phones. we listened through your updates, return the favour.

koogs, Monday, 12 March 2018 10:26 (six years ago) link

god I hated stand ups. we don't really have them where I work now, we just use Slack to keep up-to-date with each other. smaller team though so it's more doable. although having said that I do have to get on a Skype call in a minute which is basically a stand up but that's because we're working with an external company on this project.

Colonel Poo, Monday, 12 March 2018 10:43 (six years ago) link

it's not any easier because it's 3 pairs all doing different things (at the moment). so only one person cares what any other person is saying, and they should already know.

koogs, Monday, 12 March 2018 13:36 (six years ago) link

Used to have a daily stand up with about 40 people in. Obviously that does not fit any normal or useful definition of the term. It was basically the bosses ensuring they were informed about everything without having to prod.

lana del boy (ledge), Monday, 12 March 2018 13:47 (six years ago) link

took me way too long to realise that the '10 minute standup' in koogs' post didn't refer to colleagues trying out new takes on 'what's the deal with airline food?' ahead of a weekend appearance at the local open mic

That would probably be worse.

lana del boy (ledge), Monday, 12 March 2018 13:55 (six years ago) link

i'm certainly not in favour of it

would 'scrum' have been clearer?

koogs, Monday, 12 March 2018 14:53 (six years ago) link

Ruck or maul would be better.

Buff Jeckley (Tom D.), Monday, 12 March 2018 15:11 (six years ago) link

don't use scrum, it reminds me how i'm entirely and riskily ignoring Agile in my day to day

when worlds collide I'll see you again (Jon not Jon), Monday, 12 March 2018 15:42 (six years ago) link

we use the term "huddle" in my office so for a moment I thought you were complaining that a co-worker does a standup set for 10 minutes at the beginning of every shift

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Monday, 12 March 2018 16:52 (six years ago) link

so...are these not “meetings”?

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 12 March 2018 19:44 (six years ago) link

the theory is that it's a stand-up because you're supposed to have the smallest group that makes sense, and literally stand up as everyone gives a brief update. no questions or interactions -- that's a follow-up after the meeting

nearly every workplace ends up breaking that at some point, either by introducing too many people working on disconnected things, or by having some idiots who decide to have what should be a follow-up discussion in the middle of the meeting

mh, Monday, 12 March 2018 19:46 (six years ago) link

i'm not sure where else to discuss this... but my partner just got a couple of her coworkers fired. she took to facebook to bitch about her job and had some photos of stuff she though management was doing wrong. it was a private post only her friends etc could see, but obviously not smart. so.. a week later one of her "friends" must have taken screen caps and sent it to the higher ups. she'd already been rocking the boat about what she felt were deceptive practices where she worked, so they haul her in and try to make her sign somethingorother that says she acknowledges she's violated some code of yadda yadda, which she refused. and two of the girls that just happened to be in her photos were also given things to sign – which they did not. they're both on contracts (or were), so i guess don't have the same rights/protection as her, but one's already gotten a lawyer.
anyways, she's pretty upset about this.

Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 12 March 2018 20:43 (six years ago) link

Wait, what were they given to sign if they just appeared in the photos but did not post them?

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Monday, 12 March 2018 21:18 (six years ago) link

Same form as my partner acknowledging they violated some vague terms of conduct tha no one had ever heard of before.

Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 12 March 2018 21:20 (six years ago) link

yeah wow that's fucked

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Monday, 12 March 2018 21:26 (six years ago) link

Yup. I feel pretty bad for them. One, apparently was kind of shit, but the other was fine and is the one who has already lawyered up. What’s amazing is they couldn’t even wait for her contract to end (in a month) - they announced it as soon as they got a hard “no” on the papers signing.

Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 12 March 2018 21:31 (six years ago) link

aaaand now she (my partner) has just taken stress leave for the week (saw a doctor today). not sure if this makes things worse or if this actually might protect her a little from repercussions.

Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 12 March 2018 21:55 (six years ago) link

What is stress leave??

Right column Leftist (sunny successor), Tuesday, 13 March 2018 00:08 (six years ago) link

Is she certain her employment contract/etcs didnt mention anything about social media conduct/commercial in confidence/NDA stuff? Mine does.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Tuesday, 13 March 2018 00:13 (six years ago) link

(Shit like this is also a very good reason for my rule of "never ever anyone ever" when it comes to FB/Twitter and work colleagues and the adding thereof. Never gonna happen).

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Tuesday, 13 March 2018 00:16 (six years ago) link

yeah my profile says I work at Fay Canoes

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 13 March 2018 00:29 (six years ago) link

the one time I did list where I worked and posted about a raise I got, somehow that I don't know (cos this person wasn't my FB friend), I got tattled on to my boss.

I do have a lot of coworkers on my list but they're all members of a group that I hide from reading anything I post.

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 13 March 2018 00:34 (six years ago) link

she's fairly certain she never had to agree to a nda, i think in her industry it might not be a typical thing.

Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 13 March 2018 01:51 (six years ago) link

also, does not change how fucking dumb it was.

Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 13 March 2018 01:52 (six years ago) link

Trudat, but if the company has no official agreed-to rules on this stuff I doubt they can pull disciplinary on it. Assuming Canada's similar to aus on that front anyways.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Tuesday, 13 March 2018 02:09 (six years ago) link

well they can try. hence this one girl getting a lawyer already.

Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 13 March 2018 02:50 (six years ago) link

interested to see what Canada's laws are like and how the legal action will play out. In the States, if you work in a right-to-work state like I do, you still can't be fired for things like being pregnant, for retaliation, for disability, etc things all protected by law, but you can be fired without cause otherwise. they really don't need a reason. and of course it is especially easy to break the aforementioned laws and just make up another, unrelated reason.

in a way that's what gave me my second wind when shit hit the fan last year cos I figured if they wanted me out they'd find a reason so might as well say what's on my mind.

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 13 March 2018 03:17 (six years ago) link

Ya. I can’t even imagine. Things like that make me so glad to live in Canada.

Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 13 March 2018 17:15 (six years ago) link

there are private conference rooms here that require reservation. people for some reason think they're first come first serve and commandeer them so you have to tell them to get out.

the other annoying thing is they use it to cut through to get to their desks. it saves .00005 seconds, and they assume it's unoccupied, so they barge in and interrupt yr meeting, then loudly say "sorry" before slamming the door and breaking yr concentration.

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 13 March 2018 18:20 (six years ago) link

so we have a new marketing guy and he just moved to the usa i think two years ago

good lad, quiet, is doing his best to learn english and doing so very well

i receive the company's email ad today and i see he spelled it alleluia (i guess he was going for something easter related)

i briefly mention i think it's spelled hallelujah, and i do a quick google and 103n4rd c0h3n comes up

and then i lightheartedly say ah a great canadian, and he says, he's not canadian

and i'm like, uh...he is? and he says he's jewish

i work in a cubicle but there are many cubicles close by and the walls are very low, so another non-us person shows her support for he's jewish and i'm like, wait, jewish is not a nationality what is going on here, i'm not saying he's not jewish

and then someone from another cubicle yells no one cares if he's c4n4d14n infinity! and starts laughing

and i'm like what is this nonsense and i tell her to butt out bc she is always interrupting mine and others' conversations and then a huge argument among all four of us breaks out

but the marketer quickly mellows out and after the argument continues talking normally, which is all cool, but he says (he is from 42m3n1a) that most people he has encountered say c0h3n is jewish but never canadian

is this a thing? maybe this goes under the things you were surprisingly old when you learned thread

F# A# (∞), Tuesday, 20 March 2018 17:00 (six years ago) link

you're putin us on.

how's life, Tuesday, 20 March 2018 17:08 (six years ago) link

i swear i am not

but three people who i don't usually work with started kind of raising their voices at me, and i'm like am i in the twilight zone? is this a joke? but they sounded very serious or i'm being trolled by real life ilxors

F# A# (∞), Tuesday, 20 March 2018 17:11 (six years ago) link

You work with idiots.

Yerac, Tuesday, 20 March 2018 17:17 (six years ago) link

he's not canadian, he's quebecois

lol, jk. it'd be a big surprise to much of canada if you tried to inform the country that leonard cohen isn't canadian

mh, Tuesday, 20 March 2018 17:17 (six years ago) link

And I was making a joke about Vladimir Putin, who just last week floated the idea that the U.K. spy might not have been poisoned by Russians, but instead possibly by "Ukrainians, Tatars or Jews but with Russian citizenship" as if a Jew with Russian citizenship weren't a Russian.

how's life, Tuesday, 20 March 2018 17:19 (six years ago) link

is it possible you're the pedantic coworker and people (outside of the new guy) are just fucking with you because they'd rather drop the discussion than get into it

damn, how's life. hadn't heard that one

mh, Tuesday, 20 March 2018 17:19 (six years ago) link

lol @ not Canadian, he's Jewish. I mean Jewish is an ethnicity as well but that wouldn't make somebody not Canadian, lol

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 20 March 2018 17:22 (six years ago) link

I think I'm starting to understand zionism

mh, Tuesday, 20 March 2018 17:23 (six years ago) link

I went into the office a week or two ago in an area that was populated by customer service reps and all of a sudden the rep nexts to me starts hollering "omg, what is that smell?" and everybody else is like "what smell" and she's trying to talk to her customer, while putin him on hold every few seconds to bark "omg that smell, it's making me SICK", and she starts gagging, and nobody else really smells anything. and then she goes "Oh god this smell, I'm gonna be sick" and then asks to put the customer on hold, slaps off her headset, and i see her russian into the ladies room.

she then comes back and keeps talking about the smell for like 2 minutes before she remembers to take her customer off hold. it turned out to be ham or perfume or some shit, idk

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 20 March 2018 17:26 (six years ago) link

is it pedantic/nitpicking to point out standard form is hallelujah?

if so, okay, i'll tread carefully next time

F# A# (∞), Tuesday, 20 March 2018 17:26 (six years ago) link

well, it goes like this.....

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 20 March 2018 17:27 (six years ago) link

trying to figure out if Neanderthal's coworker actually had an undiagnosed stroke

mh, Tuesday, 20 March 2018 17:28 (six years ago) link

sure hope not!

other people started to acknowledge the smell when she got back, so I was like "damn were you all gaslighting her earlier?"

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 20 March 2018 17:29 (six years ago) link

maybe she was just stalin for time

motorpsycho nightmare winningham (Hadrian VIII), Tuesday, 20 March 2018 17:31 (six years ago) link

thanks for the feedback peeps

i feel a little better

F# A# (∞), Tuesday, 20 March 2018 17:31 (six years ago) link

Huh the rabbi I currently study with is Canadian. Pretty sure he is also Jewish. I’ll ask him!

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Tuesday, 20 March 2018 17:32 (six years ago) link

Quincie's Rabbi - not a Canadian
But you know who is - Decibel writer Begrand, Adrien!

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 20 March 2018 17:36 (six years ago) link

Canadian-American

mh, Tuesday, 20 March 2018 17:38 (six years ago) link

second that your coworkers are idiots.

Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 20 March 2018 19:13 (six years ago) link

one thing i've realized about dumb fuck coworkers who needlessly argue with you - bet money. tell them to put $20 on the line that he's not Canadian. normally, i find, that shuts an idiot up.

Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 20 March 2018 19:15 (six years ago) link

I just say "uh huh" and walk away typically. If it happens at my own desk I go to the restroom and get some coffee and take my time doing it.

mh, Tuesday, 20 March 2018 19:17 (six years ago) link

alleluia is an accepted if old spelling innit?

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Wednesday, 21 March 2018 09:02 (six years ago) link

yes, it can have various specific contextual meanings in that spelling too

just noticed tears shaped like florida. (sic), Wednesday, 21 March 2018 09:26 (six years ago) link

ya which is why i thought it prudent not to use it in an email ad about easter going out to like thousands of people

this is a weird company tho

F# A# (∞), Wednesday, 21 March 2018 20:55 (six years ago) link

three weeks pass...

(talking about the recent BBC series about best/weirdest/extreme hotels)

"Have you seen it? It's really good although I don't like Giles Core much."
"Who does he present it with?"
"That Monica woman. Monica Lewinsky I think it is."

Bimlo Horsewagon became Wheelbarrow Horseflesh (aldo), Thursday, 12 April 2018 09:28 (six years ago) link

Whoever left the fridge door open overnight when I'd left a pasty in it yesterday which I now don't dare eat. Boo.

(Someone is probably going to tell me I'm being fussy but I had a bad time last time I ate something which had gone unrefrigerated for an unknown number of hours and tbh I'm a fat bastard and should not be eating pasties anyway)

a passing spacecadet, Thursday, 12 April 2018 14:03 (six years ago) link

the latest thing in my office from Execs is pure CYA confirmations - i.e., them asking for statuses of things not because they actually give a shit and want to know the state of the state, but so they can trap you into confirming something in writing to nail you with later.

like today, a customer service manager was asked - "can you confirm the extract of test cases were inserted and that the database will be somewhat stable tomorrow". The former is easy to confirm - the latter, lol GTFO. we're a 100+ client company with thousands of users, any one single thing could render the database slow af, and nobody in fucking customer service can control or prevent it.

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Thursday, 12 April 2018 19:02 (six years ago) link

weirdly they didn't like when I said that to them in reply

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Thursday, 12 April 2018 19:02 (six years ago) link

Lol typical tech manager shite

Right column Leftist (sunny successor), Thursday, 12 April 2018 20:30 (six years ago) link

Lol...

So while my candicacy is still open for the new position, my boss gave me some small temp assignments until I know if I got it. 1.5 months ago one of those tasks was literally just copying a quiz verbatim into SurveyMonkey. No analysis...just cut/paste. It was posted around that time and peer reviewed.

They are training on it *tomorrow*, and at almost 6:45 ET (long after I leave), one of the trainers frantically emails me and the guy who wrote it saying I HAVE CONCERNS CAN U URGENTLY ADDRESS?!!! IE by tomorrow.

Ignored it...but boy I hope I get this new job lol.

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Thursday, 12 April 2018 23:00 (six years ago) link

Clients, man. Clients. *shakes head*

^yaaH

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Friday, 13 April 2018 00:45 (six years ago) link

1 male workmate to another male workmate in the kitchen: "man you've gotten a lot fatter lately, whats going on there?"
Said workmate mumbles something in what I assume is profuse embarrasement.

WTF dude. RUDE.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Friday, 13 April 2018 00:55 (six years ago) link

That is outright harassment. Fuck that

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Friday, 13 April 2018 00:57 (six years ago) link

Then he kept going on about it! "yeah youre looking as big as [workmate 3] these days man"

I'm like "...is this how guys talk to each other? If I did that to a woman she'd chuck a shitfit"

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Friday, 13 April 2018 01:03 (six years ago) link

That is hideous. I would hit someone for saying this to me.

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Friday, 13 April 2018 01:04 (six years ago) link

Like none of my friends would ever say this to me

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Friday, 13 April 2018 01:06 (six years ago) link

He wasnt even being aggressive, it was like casual like "hey nice hat man", it was so weird.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Friday, 13 April 2018 01:09 (six years ago) link

My own mother patted my stomach and said "someone's gaining weight" and it's had me doing 5k runs every day.

A peer saying that would have me running marathons

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Friday, 13 April 2018 01:12 (six years ago) link

I’d be stealing their lunch from the fridge and then eat my own lunch AND theirs

alvin noto (mh), Friday, 13 April 2018 01:26 (six years ago) link

ha, years ago I told a co worker I was joining the gym and she nodded seriously and said 'yes, you are putting on weight'. she is Sri Lankan though so I think there's cultural differences ... (and she was right tbh)

kinder, Friday, 13 April 2018 04:03 (six years ago) link

bro do you even lift

startled macropod (MatthewK), Friday, 13 April 2018 11:50 (six years ago) link

I'm a woman and I currently neither lift nor exercise

kinder, Friday, 13 April 2018 12:10 (six years ago) link

To whoever put the signs in the ladies room bitching about whoever's leaving a mess: Fuck you sideways with a chainsaw.

Polly of the Pre-Codes (j.lu), Friday, 13 April 2018 14:30 (six years ago) link

YOU DON'T HAVE TO SHARE EVERY THOUGHT IN YOUR HEAD

tokyo rosemary, Friday, 13 April 2018 14:52 (six years ago) link

Also, this learned helplessness is not cute.

tokyo rosemary, Friday, 13 April 2018 14:53 (six years ago) link

feeling personally attacked here but.. otm

alvin noto (mh), Friday, 13 April 2018 14:56 (six years ago) link

Last month, she asked me to look up something that I don't even have access to while I was on the phone with a customer. Meanwhile a coworker who could do it was free.

tokyo rosemary, Friday, 13 April 2018 15:19 (six years ago) link

so my buddy started working at the same place as me and i work nights - he's telling me one guy is trashing my work ethic when i'm not there. i'm a casual and do 5 jobs so i'm a bit rusty when covering a job i haven't had for months, and my arm is still healing from a recent break. Anyway he's going to the manager today cuz it's really bothering him. This is the same place i was bullied by one co-worker - anyway, wish people would get some guts and say it to my face

after party for the apocalypse (Ross), Friday, 13 April 2018 20:17 (six years ago) link

i'm so close to saying to him today "if you got concerns about my work, let ME KNOW"

after party for the apocalypse (Ross), Friday, 13 April 2018 20:20 (six years ago) link

I would. Fuck that behavior

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Friday, 13 April 2018 20:47 (six years ago) link

My buddy reported him and they’re going to talk to him.
He’s got a smug look on his face atm. Hell Is working with other people. Everyone else In my life isn’t a shitbag

after party for the apocalypse (Ross), Friday, 13 April 2018 22:07 (six years ago) link

Working with different personalities is super unnatural

after party for the apocalypse (Ross), Friday, 13 April 2018 22:09 (six years ago) link

isn't it just

startled macropod (MatthewK), Friday, 13 April 2018 23:05 (six years ago) link

In non stupid news...I GOT THE NEW POSITION

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Friday, 13 April 2018 23:08 (six years ago) link

Fuck yeah bud

after party for the apocalypse (Ross), Saturday, 14 April 2018 01:42 (six years ago) link

people talking about weight at work is so weird to me and the only way to deal with it is to just shut it down imo, "yes I am having a McDonalds today because I am an adult who can make their own decisions, why are you so weirdly obsessed with my weight?"

boxedjoy, Sunday, 15 April 2018 21:21 (six years ago) link

also good news for Neanderthal but bad news for this thread!

boxedjoy, Sunday, 15 April 2018 21:21 (six years ago) link

a few people in my building have decided it's apt to comment on the portion sizes of my lunch, ostensibly in jest.

i really want to tell them to stfu, but instead i've just asked flatly why they comment on it, or just not indulged in the way they want me to, which i guess is humourously self-deprecating. like why even say "ooh that's a big portion size"? it's not as bad as weight comments but it's in the same kind of judgey area. they aren't even massive lunches, they're just enough to see me through until i eat dinner like six or seven hours later.

vanjie wail (qiqing), Sunday, 15 April 2018 23:32 (six years ago) link

That sort of smalltalk generally irks me. People who are all "oooh whats for lunch today!" eyeing off whatever you've just pulled out of the microwave. Ive had people fall in step with me walking out of the office, saying "going to lunch?" no, its 12PM and I thought I'd walk into traffic.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Monday, 16 April 2018 00:23 (six years ago) link

This happens to me a bit and I have always assumed it's because I am not much of a smalltalker and people just want to get a handle on me / humanise me a bit in their eyes. But I have perfected ways of getting out of and back into my workplace while running into the fewest people possible, and then I eat in my office, so they have no chance to comment.

startled macropod (MatthewK), Monday, 16 April 2018 00:36 (six years ago) link

Would that I had my own office!

(I'd fart in it with the door shut, that oughta show any little SOBs who then walked in)

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Monday, 16 April 2018 00:53 (six years ago) link

Sometimes I end up having interesting conversations about food when someone has used smalltalk in the staff kitchen, so I'm not always on edge or defensive, but it's usually annoying people I barely know, pretending they're just making smalltalk when really their comments are too familiar and unnecessary, insinuating that I'm overdoing it. In general these are meals made from scratch, fairly healthy and nutritious, but even if they weren't, why do people feel they have a pass to comment on someone's food choices, especially when they're more or less strangers? ffs just let people eat their food and shut up about it, unless you're saying something nice or striking up a conversation about food that isn't meant to be suggestively judgey. There's nothing really smalltalky about it anyway, I mean what is the point of commenting that it's a large portion other than to hint that they think you're overindulging? It's not really "just an observation", it's just more thinly veiled moralism.

I understand it as that too, MatthewK, sometimes. It's sometimes a way of getting a handle on whether you're willing to humour their inane and moralistic comments, too.

vanjie wail (qiqing), Monday, 16 April 2018 00:59 (six years ago) link

Yeah I'm just not a smalltalk fan, which I know is a tad antisocial :/

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Monday, 16 April 2018 01:01 (six years ago) link

Oh I'm pretty much the same. I have to be in the right mood to tolerate it, but sometimes I really clam up and cbf at all, even though I know it's supposed to be antisocial. I think it's probably more a defence against really tedious and/or aggressively social people. Kitchens are the worst for being trapped by smalltalkers too, especially when you have to wait for something in the microwave. I know silences can be awkward but some people just can't seem to handle not commenting on every single little thing that you're doing, or having any silences at all. I guess they think people will think they're being rude if they don't talk, but I'd much rather they just shut up unless they have something interesting to say.

vanjie wail (qiqing), Monday, 16 April 2018 01:08 (six years ago) link

I ask my coworker across the aisle what he’s eating if it smells good

alvin noto (mh), Monday, 16 April 2018 01:31 (six years ago) link

That to me is perfectly acceptable. In most cases. If I'm tired I don't always want to talk to other people about my food because it's too much mental effort and anxiety to figure out whether there's something else behind what they're saying e.g. some people seem to be slightly resentful that I had the time to put together that kind of meal, or that I may have made a more appetising meal than what they brought in, as if I want to show off my fancy schmancy cooking skills, and even though I know that insecurity's on them, I just can't deal with it sometimes so I'd prefer that they didn't comment. I feel as if I'm being mock humble and they can pick up on that, but what I'm making usually isn't that complicated anyway, and it's just leftovers. I'm also just hungry and it's delaying me from the main event.

It depends on the person too ime. There's usually a perceptible difference between genuine interest or curiosity or approval, and someone kind of competitive and envious about food and culinary skills.

vanjie wail (qiqing), Monday, 16 April 2018 02:01 (six years ago) link

Any advice would be appreciated - as mentioned itt recently I was being trash talked daily by some guy I thought was my friend. Another co worker reported him cuz they thought It was unprofessional. I had just returned to work with a mostly healed broken arm and covered a desk I was trained on previously for one day, so I don’t think they could’ve expected much success at first.

Anyway on Friday 20 minutes after everyone else clocks out (I’m on nights ATM) I walked out into the hallway and the whole clique was having a secret meeting. Guy who got reported looked sheepish because he got rightfully shut down for being toxic.

Anyways I heard he was going around and trying to figure out who ratted him out. My opinion is I’ve entered a work place so toxic for so long that any outsider to this fucked up dynamic is a threat.

after party for the apocalypse (Ross), Monday, 16 April 2018 14:50 (six years ago) link

yeah and honestly I don't think his bosses would be too pleased to hear that after he got dressed down for his toxic attitude, he was now trying to identify and potentially intimidate the person who reported him. Honestly, it sounds like the toxicity of the environment is taking a toll on you. Because of that, if you see something beyond hearsay that suggests he's actively asking around, I would report it, tbh.

alpha male bullshit in the workplace needs to be checked, always. though I get that you might be afraid that nothing will happen and that he'll take it out on you in retaliation, which tbh is a completely understandable worry - but one he has probably thrived on for years.

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Saturday, 21 April 2018 19:09 (six years ago) link

my boss took forever to tell my team I was leaving. turns out he mistakenly thought my transition date was 5/7 instead of 5/1. woops.

let's just say uhhh the dept is very upset that I'm leaving. I think more departures are going to follow as morale is declining. so mega-excited for the new position (full time trainer)

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Saturday, 21 April 2018 19:10 (six years ago) link

You do not realize the restraint that I show by not posting ITT multiple times every weekday. Because I could. I think I forget half of the instances of jaw-dropping stupidity I encounter because they tend to be superseded by an even stupider occurrence within an hour or so.

Love Theme From Oh God! You Devil (Old Lunch), Friday, 4 May 2018 19:08 (six years ago) link

(This was spurred by a years-long coworker referring a third party to me on the basis of my holding a position that I do not and have never held. Like he wasn't even in the ballpark. But it was, of course, delivered with complete confidence.)

Love Theme From Oh God! You Devil (Old Lunch), Friday, 4 May 2018 19:12 (six years ago) link

I have been fighting literally for years with the head of another department who attributes all of her staff's fuck-ups to user error. This despite the fact that my work is hindered these fuck-ups multiple times every single day and they are less 'whoops, my finger slipped while I was typing' and more 'I fundamentally fail to understand my responsibilities, even when my responsibilities are explicitly detailed to me by a third party'. As always, I primarily blame the 'parents' (including my own, whose general spinelessness precludes them from ever having my back in these situations).

(I'm realizing that my growing apoplexy wrt this job is the cumulative result of minor-but-chronic irritations being completely unaddressed over long stretches of time. It's like letting a minor cut fester until your arm is completely gangrenous.)

Love Theme From Oh God! You Devil (Old Lunch), Thursday, 10 May 2018 14:27 (six years ago) link

I could seriously spend my entire workday posting ITT about the stupidity I encounter over the course of my workday. In many cases, it exceeds the bounds of basic stupidity or laziness and I begin to get concerned that there's some real impairment going on. Mini strokes, gas leaks, unattended grievous head injuries. I've got EMS on my speed dial just in case.

The most recent chronic issue which makes me go full-bore Scanners on a daily basis is on the order of:

Me: 'Hey, we're out of ____. Could you please make sure we get more ____?'
Idiot: (doesn't get out of seat to actually check on the status of ____) 'Looks like we're all good on ____!' (resumes huffing of gasoline)
Me: (dislodges cyanide capsule, bites down hard)

I cop this squat in the name of slack (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 23 May 2018 13:57 (five years ago) link

Like I received a response at the end of the day yesterday and came in to two more this morning that were exactly this. People far above my pay grade responding to specific requests to do a thing without which I'm unable to do my job, telling me that the thing is done only for me to find that not only is the thing not done but that the party in question never bothered to even check whether or not it was done. I just...what...I...motherfucking...you goddamn...just...AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

This job is genuinely going to kill me.

I cop this squat in the name of slack (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 23 May 2018 14:02 (five years ago) link

I'm two weeks into this co-worker (and we're on the other side of the world so are together outside work most days too) and I can't even (as the young people say).

Once this is all over I might give the edited highlights.

Bimlo Horsewagon became Wheelbarrow Horseflesh (aldo), Thursday, 24 May 2018 05:41 (five years ago) link

Ugh that sounds dire, do you have to share a hotel room or anything horrid?

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Thursday, 24 May 2018 06:41 (five years ago) link

Not as bad as that but it'll all become clear when I spill the beans.

I'll summarise the worst of it by saying two weeks in he is still fighting the time zone.

Bimlo Horsewagon became Wheelbarrow Horseflesh (aldo), Thursday, 24 May 2018 22:03 (five years ago) link

who's winning?

we used to get our kicks reading surfing MAGAzines (sic), Thursday, 24 May 2018 23:51 (five years ago) link

The time zone, hands down. He seems to think he can battle for another 6 weeks.

Bimlo Horsewagon became Wheelbarrow Horseflesh (aldo), Friday, 25 May 2018 01:23 (five years ago) link

Could the management here be any more useless?</chandlerbing>

Love love love it when a succession of managers play hot potato with a complex request which requires the guidance of management until the thing finally lands in my lap and I have to bring my own job to a screeching halt so I can spend an hour composing an email detailing to people well above my paygrade what their positions require of them. Looooooooove it. Toooooootally not raking deep and freely-bleeding furrows down my face with my fingernails rn.

My Favorte People Call Me Dad Soft Toddler (Old Lunch), Thursday, 31 May 2018 17:32 (five years ago) link

garbageperson who gives give me a RED FLAG! high priority!! urgent!! task at 5 min before 5pm deadline aaaaaand then fucks off home immediately.

yep cool no worries it’ll all be there in the morning for you to answer the questions you should have stuck around to answer, asshole

new job is officially christened lol

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 1 June 2018 01:55 (five years ago) link

Ring them at 10PM saying CANT FINISH THIS OMG YOU MISSED SOMETHING YOU HAVE TO FIX IT

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Friday, 1 June 2018 01:58 (five years ago) link

One man's rush is another man's I'll get around to it.

My Favorte People Call Me Dad Soft Toddler (Old Lunch), Friday, 1 June 2018 02:00 (five years ago) link

congrats on the new job, I guess, vg!

kinder, Friday, 1 June 2018 02:13 (five years ago) link

thx!

i actually do kinda like it

but for real this place needs serious codification of the definition of the word URGENT and levels of (preferably physical) punishment for its overuse.

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 1 June 2018 03:48 (five years ago) link

Me: Yeah here is how *thing* is done, pls follow this format when saving the file
Person: yeah I'm just gonna go ahead and do that in another format cos I dont like this one
Me: Gnnnnnnrrrrrghhhh

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Friday, 1 June 2018 04:26 (five years ago) link

I love my new job but it makes me sad that I have no new entries for this thread lol

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Friday, 1 June 2018 20:43 (five years ago) link

be the stupid annoying co-worker you want to see in the world

kinder, Friday, 1 June 2018 21:21 (five years ago) link

I live for the day I have nothing to contribute to this thread. The thought alone is making me a little misty-eyed rn.

On the Wingers of Love: The Kip & Debra Story (Old Lunch), Friday, 1 June 2018 21:26 (five years ago) link

Why is everyone’s job getting worse and more grim rn (mine as well)

cheese is the teacher, ham is the preacher (Jon not Jon), Saturday, 2 June 2018 01:59 (five years ago) link

money is getting tighter

let’s get real (alomar lines), Saturday, 2 June 2018 08:00 (five years ago) link

My complaints at work can be boiled down to a single issue: people not doing (or not sufficiently doing) the thing they're paid to do (which very pointedly includes managers who fail to manage this issue). It does seem to be escalating. I guess breezing through life while being terrible at everything is just the zeitgeist rn. I just take comfort in knowing that when I finally wise up and split, my workplace will be hella fucked.

On the Wingers of Love: The Kip & Debra Story (Old Lunch), Saturday, 2 June 2018 13:15 (five years ago) link

(Like neither of my immediate superiors really know how I do what I do, nor have they shown any interest in doing so. They just know it gets done. That seems like it might be an untenable situation for them in the long run, but what do I know.)

On the Wingers of Love: The Kip & Debra Story (Old Lunch), Saturday, 2 June 2018 13:17 (five years ago) link

I think it's quite possible that there are just relatively few people who know how to excel at an office job versus the many more who are capable of convincingly treading water.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Saturday, 2 June 2018 14:51 (five years ago) link

well every day i look forward to this one individual who throws out callous words at me, like "you're in for orientation? if you were at another hospital, you would be fired or transferred in a week". i'm casual and have 5 jobs, some which i've done for like 2 days total. i've complained but the manager/her are tight, but she said that two days in a row to me, and i dread going into work cuz absolutely nothing gets done about this - they say she's just "blunt" - she's not even my supervisor, plus she was fired from her last job, so maybe she should get the picture.

sunburst N snowblind (Ross), Thursday, 14 June 2018 14:01 (five years ago) link

i work a monkey job i'm overqualified for, can't stand being talked down to

sunburst N snowblind (Ross), Thursday, 14 June 2018 14:02 (five years ago) link

That is the worst! What a dick. I haven't worked in a rude workplace for such a long time, I don't think I could take it anymore.

Is there an HR team you can chat to on the sly?

Chuck_Tatum, Thursday, 14 June 2018 14:07 (five years ago) link

yeah, in theory it could be reported to an anonymous line/union - other co-workers have had problems with her, but it seems like no action has really been taken. she's nice outside of work but just challenging at work, so it's kinda frustrating. she seems to enjoy being made fun of back, but that's really tiring. i've been off/on work due to injuries for the last couple months so i'm a little more scared to speak up to anyone, but i guess i'm protected by unions anyway,

sunburst N snowblind (Ross), Thursday, 14 June 2018 14:11 (five years ago) link

probably find a new job soon tbh, 11 years in IT to ---this---

sunburst N snowblind (Ross), Thursday, 14 June 2018 14:11 (five years ago) link

IME all kinds of personality disorders are given relatively free reign in the workplace because it's easier to gingerly tiptoe around the volcano than to address the annihilating blasts of lava head-on.

Gladys McFlatus (Old Lunch), Thursday, 14 June 2018 14:23 (five years ago) link

(Plus, I have heard direct from the horse's mouth more than a few times concerns that an unstable employee, once disciplined or terminated, might prove to be dangerously so.)

Gladys McFlatus (Old Lunch), Thursday, 14 June 2018 14:25 (five years ago) link

I don't think it's the team's problem to deal with, though - it's the manager's. And a lot of managers can be spineless or disinterested or assholes themselves.

Also lots of eccentricities can be solved without disciplining or firing people. It just requires a light touch. Which a lot of people don't have.

Chuck_Tatum, Thursday, 14 June 2018 14:32 (five years ago) link

My manager is great but the most recent update is they’re navigating the problem by letting me not work her desk or be trained by her. Today was a shit show of being corrected every 5 seconds or asked what I’m doing. I’m no dunce man. Plus she trains in a confusing manner and then reams
Me out. Seen her googling anxiety websites. At least I can go to work and keep my depression at bay and do my job without being a turd. Old lunch otm as usual

sunburst N snowblind (Ross), Thursday, 14 June 2018 23:44 (five years ago) link

it's my absolute hate when people say "oh so-and-so is just like that" - no, they are like it because their manager has allowed it to pass and enabled it by letting it continue. I'm a big fan of people having quirks and interesting personalities because it makes the day more interesting but if someone is rude, aggressive and ignorant then they're not doing their job to the best ability any less than someone who lacks technical skills. A manager who isn't prepared to deal with awkward conversations and difficult people is choosing to let that sabotage their team.

boxedjoy, Friday, 15 June 2018 08:41 (five years ago) link

Absolutely otm

I’ve reported it. I can’t even go to work today cuz I need to focus on a new desk in isolation without
Being told to sit down!!! Actual quote.

sunburst N snowblind (Ross), Friday, 15 June 2018 12:06 (five years ago) link

Management has stated there’s been a long term problem
with a toxic culture but as long as they never spend time in the room, they never witness it. Anywhere else these individuals would be duly fired.

sunburst N snowblind (Ross), Friday, 15 June 2018 12:09 (five years ago) link

IME all kinds of personality disorders are given relatively free reign in the workplace because it's easier to gingerly tiptoe around the volcano than to address the annihilating blasts of lava head-on.

― Gladys McFlatus (Old Lunch), Thursday, June 14, 2018 3:23 PM (yesterday)

Please don't conflate personality disorders with being an asshole, thx.

emil.y, Friday, 15 June 2018 12:59 (five years ago) link

Yesterday I received an email from a manager that was basically a one-sentence 'are you falling behind in your work?' with no context or specifics or any mention of what might have led her to ask that question (nb, I was not, and was in fact helping several people with issues outside of the purview of my job on top of keeping up with my work, thanks).

A few minutes ago, another manager sent an email (from home) to the entire department that began 'Step it up people!'.

It would be cool if I could every so often luck into a Gallant for the dozens of managerial Goofuses I've been saddled with over the course of my working life.

Gladys McFlatus (Old Lunch), Friday, 15 June 2018 19:38 (five years ago) link

keep them coming, I'm beginning to feel like I might actually be a good manager

kinder, Friday, 15 June 2018 21:00 (five years ago) link

yesterday a coworker/superior used the phrase 'quite frankly' dozens of times -- easily -- during a half-hour phone call

now i find myself listening and waiting for it, which is annoying

mookieproof, Friday, 15 June 2018 23:55 (five years ago) link

I had a coworker/superior whose catchphrase, every few sentences, was "if I'm being honest."

I strangled him with a USB cable and dropped his corpse down the elevator shaft, where it was never found.

mick signals, Saturday, 16 June 2018 00:42 (five years ago) link

Lol

Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 16 June 2018 00:43 (five years ago) link

you were right to do it

mookieproof, Saturday, 16 June 2018 00:52 (five years ago) link

a jury would never convict you

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 16 June 2018 03:50 (five years ago) link

only fair criticisms if we are open and honest about our own verbal foibles tbh

tired culché (darraghmac), Saturday, 16 June 2018 10:33 (five years ago) link

Ex.: I use the phrase 'verbal foibles' way too much. But it just feels fun to say it, is all.

Gladys McFlatus (Old Lunch), Saturday, 16 June 2018 13:29 (five years ago) link

I hate it when you make a one-off stupid mistake & someone is like

“Was there a change in policy that I don’t know about? Let me know if the SOP been revised & I need to change my request format?” ...blah blah blah

NO! I JUST FUCKED UP, OKAY? Jesus.

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 18 June 2018 21:38 (five years ago) link

oh sorry i am that other person

idk if i've ever gone that far in assuming literally everything i thought i knew was incorrect and bad though

flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Monday, 18 June 2018 21:46 (five years ago) link

"Was there a change in policy? I'm so sorry if I submitted this incorrectly" = I know you fucked up and I want to rub your nose in it until you weep because I hate you, nothing personal it's the job that turns us all into monsters

mick signals, Monday, 18 June 2018 22:01 (five years ago) link

otm, it's pure pass agg, I like my manager, but he sometimes goes down this path and it's not cool

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Monday, 18 June 2018 23:24 (five years ago) link

Hey, ol' TB Sheets across the way is at it again, choking up what sounds like hunks of lung every few minutes. Pretty sure he very nearly barfed on himself a little while ago. And, oh hey, is that the beginning of a scratchy throat I'm feeling? Could it be that after numerous failed attempts over the last several months of carefully nurturing a series of recurring illness he's finally managed to share his gift of with me? Fuck yeh, bro, can't wait.

Gladys McFlatus (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 17:35 (five years ago) link

Just got done listening to my coworker lie yet again to a vendor over the phone.

The vendor then called me and said, "Why does she lie to me like that? Does she think I'm stupid? I might be but my lawyers are NOT."

Joe Gargan (dandydonweiner), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 17:43 (five years ago) link

That sounds like potentially a serious problem?!

Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 23:08 (five years ago) link

Nowhere else to put this, but. . . uhmm. . . one of my coworkers uses the term "mental retardation" when discussing some clients. This person isn't using it in a derogatory way, they are actually trying to describe another person's condition. But, it just doesn't seem right to use such an antiquated term that has such harsh connotations. It's especially wrong for my coworker to use it, considering the nature of our jobs. My coworker really should know better. I've thought about correcting them each and every time they've used it, but I just don't have the self-discipline required to approach the situation assertively and respectfully.

(V) (°,,,,°) (V) (Austin), Thursday, 21 June 2018 15:44 (five years ago) link

My company serves a lot of businesses that still have 'retarded' or 'retardation' (in the context you mention) as part of their business name. Although many of them now do business under an abbreviation. It's always kinda stunning to realize how widespread the usage still is.

Rep. Bob Excellentfrappuccino (Old Lunch), Thursday, 21 June 2018 15:53 (five years ago) link

Sheesh, that just doesn't seem right.

(V) (°,,,,°) (V) (Austin), Thursday, 21 June 2018 16:23 (five years ago) link

Ugh my opposite-desk coworker smokes those illegal chop-chop black market handmade cigs, and when he comes back to his desk he smells FOUL, like a 3-week-old filthy ashtray. Not like "ugh a smoker!", it is way way worse, it is so gross.

And I'm a smoker!

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Friday, 22 June 2018 01:12 (five years ago) link

As a person very sensitive to cigarette smoke and lingering cigarette smells, that sounds awful.

Maybe, as a smoker, you can answer this: what is the appeal of the black market tobacco?

(V) (°,,,,°) (V) (Austin), Friday, 22 June 2018 03:17 (five years ago) link

let me just throw a guess out there before Trayce corrects me: it’s cheaper

mh, Friday, 22 June 2018 03:46 (five years ago) link

It is INSANELY cheaper. We pay incredibly high taxes for smokes here. A pack of 30 would cost about $35 depending where you get em.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Friday, 22 June 2018 03:50 (five years ago) link

But thats not enough of a motivation for me to ever try em, given this stench :/

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Friday, 22 June 2018 03:50 (five years ago) link

they’re made of ground-up cigarette butts and dog poop but you get a harsh buzz

mh, Friday, 22 June 2018 03:57 (five years ago) link

I think they're actually made from the dried, shredded lungs of deceased smokers

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Friday, 22 June 2018 04:17 (five years ago) link

not sure if qualitative difference

mh, Friday, 22 June 2018 14:00 (five years ago) link

Email went out this morning containing an invoice from a photo shoot; it was clearly meant for our Accounts Payable dept. but was sent to a company-wide mailing list instead. I get an inordinate amount of pleasure from people's reactions to this sort of thing. Can't decide if my favorite is paranoid Stephen, relieved Jamie, or baffled Kathryn. Love that Pat refers to Martha as Hannah. I think Rachel finally put a stop to it.

Martha
Please upload
---------- Forwarded message ----------
Hello, 
Please find attached a recent prop hire invoice. 
Many Thanks

Martha
Sorry – wrong email address. Please ignore.

Keren
Hi
Sorry I don't think this was meant to come to me
Regards

Lauren
Dear Martha,
I have no idea what this is about?

Jo
Me neither....

Stephen
Sounds like spam. Do not open.

Andy
Martha has already responded saying this was directed to the wrong address. You can delete it from your inbox and ignore it.

Gianna
Guys- She already responded saying she sent it to the wrong email. Stop replying.

Pat
Hi guys
You obviously did not receive the second e-mail from Hannah immediately following the first one.
It was sent by mistake and can be ignored. see screen dump below.

Jamie
I was wondering!
Sent from my iPhone

Maureen
Sorry All, but I do not code UK invoices.
Hi Laura,
Would you know who would get this?

Kathryn
I'm afraid I am also at a loss!
I have not ordered any lacquered wooden bowls recently
Thanks!

Rachel
Could we please stop 'replying all' to this email chain.
Many thanks

early rejecter, Friday, 22 June 2018 14:32 (five years ago) link

Hi, I think you posted this in the wrong thread? I'm not sure how to help you with your story about people who bafflingly 'reply all' to emails. Sorry!

Rep. Bob Excellentfrappuccino (Old Lunch), Friday, 22 June 2018 14:37 (five years ago) link

My favorite is always the 50 follow-up reply-all emails that scold everyone about clicking reply-all.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Friday, 22 June 2018 14:55 (five years ago) link

Those really are the best.

(Side story: People outside of the company who send an email to one of my work addresses receive an automated reply to let them know that their inquiry was received along with various details of what we need from them in order to proceed. People do occasionally respond to these autoreplies as if they're being sent by a real live boy, but they usually only do it the once because, y'know, after receiving an identical response twice in a row, it's fairly clear what's going on. Or so I assumed, until a couple weeks back when someone who was apparently in the middle of a nervous breakdown responded to the autoreply no less than three or four times in less than an hour, each time seeming more panicked and despondent. Her final email was something like 'I don't understand, do you just want me to leave you alone?!' Yes. Yes, I do.)

Secret Peanut (Old Lunch), Friday, 22 June 2018 15:05 (five years ago) link

Oh man, I absolutely love the company-wide emails that get caught up in the "reply all" loop. Of course, my favorites are the condescending morons who tell everyone to stop hitting "reply all" by ingeniously clicking "reply all" in order to do so.

But, I'd also like to rep for the gloriously oblivious, "Please remove me from this mailing list!" lot, all of whom I'd like to personally meet and shake hands with.

(V) (°,,,,°) (V) (Austin), Saturday, 23 June 2018 03:44 (five years ago) link

both latter are valid and correct and nevessary responses

tired culché (darraghmac), Saturday, 23 June 2018 09:04 (five years ago) link

It's probably best to confidently 'reply all' to the inquiry in question with a solution which is completely wrong.

A Frankenstein + A Dracula + A Mummy That's Been Werewolfed (Old Lunch), Saturday, 23 June 2018 12:50 (five years ago) link

There's a woman in my office who has a "Do Not Disturb" sign tacked permanently to her door. She never takes it down.

the word dog doesn't bark (anagram), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 14:09 (five years ago) link

Smart

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 14:11 (five years ago) link

My company serves a lot of businesses that still have 'retarded' or 'retardation' (in the context you mention) as part of their business name.

Lord.

Also, I found this while perusing the MS style guide and couldn't help but bleakly chuckle.

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/style-guide/a-z-word-list-term-collections/a/abort-abortion

Simon H., Tuesday, 26 June 2018 14:14 (five years ago) link

I was thinking specifically of this org: https://www.thearc.org/who-we-are/history/name-change

It seems that the memo hasn't yet made its way to some of their regional chapters.

A Frankenstein + A Dracula + A Mummy That's Been Werewolfed (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 14:38 (five years ago) link

New job has been wonderful. Company as a whole is still fairly dumb.

This week, I got asked to teach a course somewhat last minute,but I didn't mind as I'd taught it previously. When the roster came in, I had a suspicion, and on Day 2 confirmed that suspicion - that 6 of the learners didn't have the prerequisite knowledge to even be in the class (they were supposed to have already learned how to use a specific call handling system and reference tools, of which they had no knowledge).

My course is a 4.5 day course - the course they would need is an 11 day version, one I've never taught. So I brought this up to the powers that be while doing my best to make adjustments to my course, and got basically asked "can you just...extend the course and keep teaching next week".

to which I said....no.

the days go by a lot faster now that I'm no longer salaried too. which I love.

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Thursday, 28 June 2018 22:42 (five years ago) link

found this in a staff area earlier, had to stifle my laughter while reading it

https://i.imgur.com/Cr7o2tB.jpg

Neil S, Friday, 29 June 2018 11:45 (five years ago) link

haha oh man.

raspberry swirl (Ross), Friday, 29 June 2018 11:47 (five years ago) link

Makes me want to pick a glass up, one with something strong in it.

Tim, Friday, 29 June 2018 12:12 (five years ago) link

And make it lighter.

nickn, Friday, 29 June 2018 16:29 (five years ago) link

put the glass down, smash it against the table, stab it into the signmaker

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 30 June 2018 16:26 (five years ago) link

I suspect I commented on you a month ago but FUCK YOU ANONYMISED CO-WORKER CUNT. We could have made this project a success but you would rather have done fuck all and tomorrow, on your final day, you're going to slope shoulders and make you having done nothing my problem since I'm here for the next 4 weeks while you're in Disneyland.

What you don't know is I've been mailing your new boss ALL WEEK (since your company ended up as part of ours and he was my boss already) showing where you'd been deceiving him and lying to the customer. I HOPE HE SACKS YOU AND YOU END UP DESTITUTE YOU FUCKER.

Now I just need to work out how to do 12 man weeks activity in 3 weeks with one man.

Bimlo Horsewagon became Wheelbarrow Horseflesh (aldo), Tuesday, 3 July 2018 06:51 (five years ago) link

Aldo, you took on the new 52, you can survive this.

Mince Pramthwart (James Morrison), Wednesday, 4 July 2018 00:17 (five years ago) link

Took the next steps today after another row in the office. Email to people working on the project telling them how we're going forward based on decisions I made this afternoon/evening and another one to our shared management pointing out how workshy he's been and the only effort he's put in is noting conversations he wants to use to claim failure isn't his fault.

He flies home tomorrow, he might be having a packet of crisps and a wank for dinner for all I know as I'm out on my own. He took a taxi back to the hotel as soon as we stopped arguing, I walked back and composed the emails in my head then typed them before coming out to eat.

By making the decisions I have I've raised success rates from single figures to approaching 50%. A firm hand over the other people working on it will increase that further. I'm actually more relaxed than I was yesterday.

Bimlo Horsewagon became Wheelbarrow Horseflesh (aldo), Wednesday, 4 July 2018 08:07 (five years ago) link

I'm at the stage that if they backed him over me then I would go back to my old place that sacked me at the beginning of the year - they've already asked and the guy that sacked me has gone.

Bimlo Horsewagon became Wheelbarrow Horseflesh (aldo), Wednesday, 4 July 2018 08:08 (five years ago) link

Working with other people is one of the most unnatural things possible. It’s like a screen door on a submarine. Every job I’ve worked at has been littered with shit heads

Ross, Wednesday, 4 July 2018 14:08 (five years ago) link

So, last week at work, I was, for the third time in my life, the target of anti-semitism ... despite being a gentile.

It's a very strange situation which I'm currently processing, and mulling over whether I report the colleague or not. Perhaps you lot could advise.

The situation is, crowded corridor full of people leaving at end of day; someone has sprayed aftershave around, someone else glares at me then says 'Smells of Jew' and melts into the crowd laughing.

Now the person in question is a Muslim (this is happening in Britain, for context, during some seasonal work which involves shifting stuff around in a sort of warehouse environment) who appears to be part of a bit of a boy's club slightly separate from the rest of the other, perfectly nice Asian people who work there. This boy's club I've overheard discussing 9-11 conspiracy theories a couple of times as well as being laddish and 'banter' in general and not doing a lot of work (even by my standards). I believe they have in general identified me as someone who is a loser because I turn up and do the work.

The other two times previously were in a different workplace and from a dodgy housemate respectively. White people both times, both fellows prone to their conspiracy theories though which appears to be the link.

I don't know if it's something to do with wearing glasses, or something to do with me being very distantly latin american but really that's only visible if you squint at me, I think. Some sephardic ancestry is hinted at in the official family biography (written in high-toned spanish in the 1890s by my preposterous Andean ancestors) but I'd think anything visual is so slight as to be unnoticeable - other than glasses. Maybe they just shout stuff at people who wear glasses hoping to score a hit?

I feel somewhat individually targeted here, although I suspect the aim is to create that feeling, so I'm putting it to one side. I'm more bothered, as with people using 'gay' as a pejorative, about what happens when they use it at someone who actually has the identity, and that someone or ones is/are walking round my place of work making it unwelcoming to Jews. It is mostly giving me quite a bit to think about rather than bothering me, but is also bothering me.

Was unsure what thread to put this on. We have the 'Is this ...' thread, but then this obviously is. The 'Real England' thread is another contender. But the behaviour is certainly stupid and annoying and done by co-workers. Must stress that I have other, high value Muslim colleagues (we have lengthy conversations about Alfred Hitchcock movies and cooking etc) who seem to be in a separate social group to this lot.

Never changed username before (cardamon), Wednesday, 4 July 2018 21:40 (five years ago) link

how old are they? whether or not I'd report it would depend on how I thought it would be handled

ogmor, Wednesday, 4 July 2018 21:48 (five years ago) link

nobody should be targeted with discrimination, report it

Ross, Wednesday, 4 July 2018 22:14 (five years ago) link

are you in an union?

Ross, Wednesday, 4 July 2018 22:15 (five years ago) link

If that's what going on a busy corridor then I hate to think what is said behind closed doors. You might not get the person to become tolerant and you might not be able to get rid of them but you can certainly make it as uncomfortable for them as they made you feel, and it means that were a situation were to arise where this person had power over eg hiring and firing, then they would have probably a level of accountability necessary to demonstrably show no prejudicial bias.

boxedjoy, Wednesday, 4 July 2018 22:48 (five years ago) link

Also the intent behind calling someone a Jew (I can't believe I'm typing these words) might be less to do with appearance and more to do with traits

boxedjoy, Wednesday, 4 July 2018 22:52 (five years ago) link

I probably would've just knocked their lights out, though that might not be the optimal career move. I'm thankful that I haven't run into a lot of open anti-Semitism in my lifetime. Maybe it's more of a thing in the UK?

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Wednesday, 4 July 2018 22:53 (five years ago) link

Thanks folks.

This group are young, say 19-23-ish. I've got about a decade on them I would say.

Something actually came up today - the boy's club I mentioned before have been messing around to such an extent that the pretty chill manager (himself a Muslim) has had to bollock everyone 4 times now with increasing severity, including a moment today where we had to work in silence 10am-5pm due to errors getting in because of them sitting around talking. I have an email for this manager and might compose a few drafts over the weekend. Keep it statement of fact. Suspect the boy's club are not long for the job.

I think part of the problem is that this is a summer job. A lot of people are students or otherwise not expecting to work here long term. There are permanent jobs here I would definitely go for though so am taking it quite seriously on the grounds of, make good impression, raise chance of getting permanent job. For these guys I think it's basically, this is something not very serious to do before going back to their business degree hence the tooling about and I suppose the outright prejudice. It is in fact the kind of job where friendly chat is quite possible, I do plenty of it with my team, it's just we're not tooling about.

Never changed username before (cardamon), Friday, 6 July 2018 19:17 (five years ago) link

three weeks pass...

I wouldn't call them stupid or annoying but I've just sat through 45 minutes of half-baked conspiracy theories - AIDS, vaccines, baby milk, Thalidomide - and garbled political and sociological analysis and lots of "But THEY don't want us to know" stuff.

Father Ted in Forkhandles (Tom D.), Monday, 30 July 2018 12:56 (five years ago) link

... on to cloning now.

Father Ted in Forkhandles (Tom D.), Monday, 30 July 2018 12:59 (five years ago) link

that seems both stupid and annoying tbh

a Stupendous Leg of Granite (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 30 July 2018 13:00 (five years ago) link

A co-worker took lots of speed, borrowed a company car without permission for personal errands, crashed the car, told several conflicting stories about what happened, got into a screaming match with the boss and then stormed out the back door, slamming it behind her. I'm employee of the year in comparison.

Mince Pramthwart (James Morrison), Wednesday, 1 August 2018 22:40 (five years ago) link

Me: Please fulfill this boilerplate request to set up a thing correctly (of which I have sent variations to you literally dozens of times before) so that I can do my job.
D-nozzle: Wh-what is this request you have sent?! I cannot possibly plumb its intent! (copies fourteen people) Do any of you understand what is being asked for here? Because everything looks like it's set up correctly to me! I'm so very cormfused!
Me: (checks the thing that wasn't set up correctly, sees that it has now been corrected, also sees the date stamp indicating that it has been corrected since he sent the request) Looks like it's fixed now, thank u for the performative feigned ignorance and the dumb and pointless and easily-disproven lie u felt the need to tell.

My Name is Pants and I Fit Snugly (Old Lunch), Friday, 3 August 2018 19:54 (five years ago) link

guy in the next room over has neither an indoor voice nor an outdoor voice but basically just yelling

also he wears polo shirts buttoned up all the way and *really* loves to use the word 'jabroni'

fuck him

mookieproof, Saturday, 4 August 2018 00:28 (five years ago) link

i hate to be gender normative here but this is my first time in almost 20 years working in an almost all-female office. Mostly young, 20’s-30’s women. Overheard office conversations hew to the following topics
- kombucha & how to grow it
- dieting
- how much sugar you have had today

last time I ate lunch in the office two coworkers spent my entire lunch hour calculating the caloric value of a serving of tater tots

:( :( :(

it’s such a bummer. they are v nice otherwise

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 4 August 2018 02:38 (five years ago) link

I had to explain to three separate adults in 2018 that even though Outlook didn't linkify the web address they needed to join a meeting, that they could simply copy and paste it into a browser.

They were telling me they couldn't access the meeting because it wasn't a clickable link (I guess cos they were using the Web version of Outlook)

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 7 August 2018 14:35 (five years ago) link

I have found that some people don't know understand what putting an address in a browser means.

Yerac, Tuesday, 7 August 2018 14:42 (five years ago) link

You mean that thing where you type 'web site for google' in that little box with the magnifying glass in it?

Caddyshack III: Back to the Shack! (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 7 August 2018 14:46 (five years ago) link

xpost I've worked in teams where it is mostly women a lot. We end up talking about food or bland tv (I watched some seasons of the Bachelor just to have some smalltalk I could use) because those are safe topics.

Yerac, Tuesday, 7 August 2018 14:46 (five years ago) link

xpost Old Lunch, ha I used to own a couple of systems at work and so I would get a lot of "IT support" questions on them because people assumed it was a design flaw. And not like, them not knowing how to double click or how scroll bars work. People especially did not know that if a link was broken in a document or whatever they could just type the motherfucking url or shortcut into the motherfucking address bar. I found myself saying, "it's the space at the top where you would normally type in www dot amazon dot com or www dot gmail dot com" A LOT.

Yerac, Tuesday, 7 August 2018 14:52 (five years ago) link

I've posted this on the house buying thread but I've recently encountered two solicitors who are unable to use email. They do the whole thing of getting their secretary to print it out, then scan in the solicitor's reply and email it back.

this is one of the reasons that buying a house in England can often take 6 months

kinder, Tuesday, 7 August 2018 17:27 (five years ago) link

One of my early temp jobs when I was out of college was at an electrical engineering firm. I was the copy person. Every single email (besides all the other documents, cad) that was sent out for a project was printed out. I would make copies for each person that was cc'd and put it in their intray for their files. I would keep a main copy to put in the project file.

Yerac, Tuesday, 7 August 2018 17:37 (five years ago) link

Our company email addresses include our full names. If you managed to successfully send me an email, you managed to spell my first name correctly at some point. Even if my address is saved in your contacts, my name is still right there in black and white for you to reference when you're addressing me in the body of your email. It's just five letters, not that difficult.

Caddyshack III: Back to the Shack! (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 7 August 2018 20:06 (five years ago) link

Torgo?

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 7 August 2018 20:08 (five years ago) link

See? You managed and you don't even send me fifteen emails a day.

Caddyshack III: Back to the Shack! (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 7 August 2018 20:12 (five years ago) link

who can't spell "lunch"?!

also this made me seriously lol:
>You mean that thing where you type 'web site for google' in that little box with the magnifying glass in it?

Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 7 August 2018 20:50 (five years ago) link

whoops. meant to put that in quotes.

Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 7 August 2018 20:50 (five years ago) link

manager of another dept asks me a question of an urgent nature that i cannot answer myself
i seek answer from appropriate ppl including my boss
i loop in said manager on boss’s answer
manager replies “i was just alerting you, i don’t need to know all of this”

FUUUUUUUUCK YOUUUUUUUUU

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 8 August 2018 03:35 (five years ago) link

oh yeah that shit used to make me wanna put a fist through a wall

it's like "why'd you ask then, asshole"

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 8 August 2018 06:19 (five years ago) link

it’s infuriating

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 8 August 2018 06:20 (five years ago) link

sending email with "high importance" maybe to you buddy, but guess again

Neil S, Wednesday, 8 August 2018 11:27 (five years ago) link

Subject line: RUUUUUUSH!!! OH MY GOD THIS IS SUCH A CRUCIAL RUSH I CANNOT EVEN TELL YOU!!!!!!!!!
Email body: Need by 12/15!

One of my favorites, lemme tell you.

Caddyshack III: Back to the Shack! (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 8 August 2018 12:06 (five years ago) link

Teamleader: please process this ticket asap@!@
Me: hey this is asking us to completely terminate all this customer's services for non payment. Aren't we supposed to warn them and suspend them first?
TL: ...it says terminate in this ticket
Me: I know, but if we do that, we cannot easily UNdo it. You sure?
TL: Just do it ok its urgent

**2 hours later wibbly wobbly effect**
Customer: OMG WTF HAVE U DONE WHY ARE ALL OUR PHONE LINES DOWN
**1 hour later again wibbly wobbly effect**
Sales: OMG U IDIOTS TURN THESE ALL BACK ON NOW WHY DID YOU TERMINATE THEM
Me: BECAUSE YOU TOLD US TO YOU &^^%$%^$
Sales: THEY MUST COME BACK ON NAO
Me: IT ISNT THAT EASY THATS WHY I ASKED ARE YOU SURE YOU WANT TO DO THIS

24 hours later theyre still bitching at us.

BTW customer: maybe try paying your fucking $20k overdue bill too, then this shit wont happen.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Tuesday, 21 August 2018 03:14 (five years ago) link

It's a beautiful gift to render something that fucking annoying in such hilarious prose Trayce

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Tuesday, 21 August 2018 03:52 (five years ago) link

Haha thank yew :) I mean you have to laugh, or etc.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Tuesday, 21 August 2018 05:55 (five years ago) link


Apparently a coworker has left a brassiere on the bookshelf in my office. I don't know what to do about this at all.

― how's life, Friday, November 18, 2016 7:51 AM (one year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

She left the company last week and in preparing her workspace for our newest colleague, we discovered several in her desk.

incarcerated moonfaces (how's life), Wednesday, 22 August 2018 17:09 (five years ago) link

please follow her to her new place of employment and get a job there, to provide updates

16, 35, DCP, Go! (sic), Wednesday, 22 August 2018 17:30 (five years ago) link

4 years after we adopted Lync/Skype, still having to explain to vets that you aren't supposed to dial into the same Skype meeting by phone AND Skype Call.

"Why is it echoing?"

-_-

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Thursday, 23 August 2018 00:17 (five years ago) link

I love my new job a lot but I miss this thread and I have a fun one today
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We have training going on in a remote, partner location (meaning my company doesn't own the building - it's a typical co-employment scenario). So all equipment is furnished by them, the software used by us.

Training rooms are at a premium in this location, so most training is done on the call center floor, so it's a weird hybrid of virtual/live where all learners are dialed into the conference number/virtual client, so that the facilitator doesn't have to scream, to shut out floor noise, and ensure everybody can hear.

So today training begins for 22 people and..there are no headsets for any of them, despite the person in charge confirming there would be.

TWo hours later, we have 5 headsets, and nobody confirming with me what is going on.

You're a call center. How the hell do you not have headsets?

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 29 August 2018 16:24 (five years ago) link

less about coworkers and more the air quality here - anyone experience working in a dusty, sniffle-inducing environment. is that something that can be addressed via HR

Ross, Thursday, 30 August 2018 01:18 (five years ago) link

most people have asthma here

Ross, Thursday, 30 August 2018 01:18 (five years ago) link

so my day job is in publishing. if you are familiar at all with groverhaus then this week I am working on something that can only be described as a groverbook, content from like 10 other books grovered together and formatted in 20 different ways, and my job is to standardize all of this as much as possible.

it's also a pretty big book, so it was split in half with a coworker. who turned out to be making the exact opposite formatting changes I did

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Thursday, 30 August 2018 17:13 (five years ago) link

'Hi, so since I have my own job which is a different job than the job that you hold, I naturally don't understand the intricacies of your job, but I decided that I should demonstrate my ignorance by, for no particular reason, attempting and wildly failing to do your job for you. Could you please let me know if my unsolicited dipshittery in any way interferes with you doing your job? And if it's not too much trouble, can you also spend half of your day explaining to me all of the aspects of this task that I find confusing but which I never would have even had to think about in the first place if I'd just let you do your job instead of having a traumatic brain event on company time?'

Just eat a hamburger, it'll hit the spot. (Old Lunch), Thursday, 30 August 2018 17:22 (five years ago) link

I retract my last post, the book (well, series) I am working on today is a) even more grover-assed, b) I'm supposed to be checking that the changes requested were made, and they are largely not made, and c) a large part of the book is about counting, and those changes requested included typo fixes, so there is a sense of looming dread

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Friday, 31 August 2018 19:44 (five years ago) link

german word for "the state of realizing, slowly, that the possibility is not zero that somewhere in this book for children is the word 'cunt'"

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Friday, 31 August 2018 19:46 (five years ago) link

From a HR email re some surveys:
- Sharing customer verbatims across the organisation

Customer... verbatims THAT WORD IS NOT USED THAT WAY.

CUSTOMER COMMENTS. SAY COMMENTS. (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Wednesday, 5 September 2018 04:41 (five years ago) link

Lol my company calls them that too

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 5 September 2018 11:47 (five years ago) link

someone bragging about his air b and b profits - do we have a thread on air b and b?

Rabbit Control (Latham Green), Wednesday, 5 September 2018 13:25 (five years ago) link

this isn't necessarily her fault, but the coworker who sits directly opposite me over the partition sounds exactly like sarah huckabee sanders, and it is constantly distracting

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Wednesday, 5 September 2018 15:46 (five years ago) link

uncovered a conspiracy you have

Rabbit Control (Latham Green), Wednesday, 5 September 2018 16:16 (five years ago) link

One of my facilitators here sounds like Bob Zmuda

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 5 September 2018 16:29 (five years ago) link

two weeks pass...

He isn't stupid or annoying but a guy a couple of desks away in one of the offices I'm working in at the moment sounds just like Ralph Ineson (and looks not unlike him either).

I'm now in a weird position where I kind of want so done to slag him off a bit just so I can say "He's thrown a kettle over a pub, what have you done?"

Bimlo Horsewagon became Wheelbarrow Horseflesh (aldo), Thursday, 20 September 2018 21:30 (five years ago) link

Today one of my stateside trainers sent an official email to one of the PHI supervisors and spelled it "Phillipians" in the email

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Friday, 21 September 2018 00:10 (five years ago) link

I feel like "I know it's *not ideal*" has because the new "it is what it is" in officespeak. because it's the same bullshit our idiot executives trot out anytime they ratfuck us

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Thursday, 27 September 2018 01:47 (five years ago) link

it's this stupid fucking accountability vacuum that insinuates nobody's at fault, this is just how the stars aligned, mannnnnnnnnnnnn.

like for instance, when these idiot execs decide we need to hire a shit-ton of new hires smack in the middle of our busiest season without bothering to forecast whether we had resources who were available to train the individuals. Or booked a training room that had 5 desks too few when other larger capacity rooms were available. or sent two more people than you told us you would the night before when we told you we didn't have room for any extra people. or didn't give us a roster until class had already started when we had asked repeatedly for one and YOU FUCKING HAD IT AVAILABLE.

like, "it's not ideal" is something you say when, like, a hurricane closes your building for a week, so you have to merge two training classes together the next week. not like, shit you fuck up and then pretend it was just unavoidable because "it's always like this" and refuse to do anything about it to make it better in the future.

next person says that to me is getting pissed on!

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Thursday, 27 September 2018 01:53 (five years ago) link

i just would like to ban everyone from asking me questions while witholding that they know at least some of the answer

fuckin tired of being shamed by “oh really? i thought it was x” or some variation thereof that makes me feel like my time was completely wasted

I HAVE BARELY BEEN IN THIS DUMB JOB FOR 6 MONTHS give me a fkn break

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 27 September 2018 03:00 (five years ago) link

It's the antithesis of this thread but the Finchy-a-like I mentioned a couple of posts up was being held up by someone else who was due in a meeting but kept getting distracted and delayed.

Not Finchy geed him up by saying "Come on Rick, I'm not a prize."

Bimlo Horsewagon became Wheelbarrow Horseflesh (aldo), Thursday, 27 September 2018 07:37 (five years ago) link

someone keeps turning it to Fox News in the pantry. It's NYC, in a corporate office. Someone is asking for it.

Yerac, Thursday, 27 September 2018 11:31 (five years ago) link

Find the remote, child lock Fox.

suzy, Thursday, 27 September 2018 12:38 (five years ago) link

Have been trying to do this on the DL, this morning. It is difficult to find the right menu!

Yerac, Thursday, 27 September 2018 14:09 (five years ago) link

think the honeymoon w/ my new job is ending. it's still way better than what I was doing, but it's the same stupid company so y'know...

so they wanted us to make a detailed list of our desired PTO for the remainder of the year by last week. I have 12 days accumulated because due to my years of service, I accrue about 2 days a month, and our boss originally told us between 7/1 - 9/30, we needed special permission to take more than two days off in a row due to a project we were on. Or, I was teaching back to back 5-day training classes. So suffice it to say, I couldn't really put a dent in it as taking 2 days a month makes me break even. And the days do not roll over.

Well, I look out on our team calendar, and they've basically already scheduled me to train 65% of the rest of the year, so I basically threw my PTO around all of the holidays, but they apparently won't tell us what's approved until like...next week.

However, my boss didn't seem to mind volunteering me for a class in two weeks that requires me to drive into the office. I'm Virtual, so this is generally supposed to be cleared with me in advance - and it just so happens to be the days we booked a hotel to celebrate my mother's 65th birthday. I had originally planned to work from the hotel since these were designated non-training days, so I could spend time with her.

I worked out a compromise with the other trainer so I can lead it from the hotel, but she sounded actually surprised that I was mad about this. Saying she didn't contact me cos it was my day off last Friday and she didn't wanna disturb me.

Well, I woulda preferred getting a call on my day off so I could tell you "no, I'm not ok with that on the 15th and 16th", then coming back and seeing you made the fucking decision for me.

Goooood.

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 2 October 2018 15:21 (five years ago) link

like it's kind of annoying how we have to plan 3 months in advance for our PTO, but they get to change our assignments with next to no notice or consultation

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 2 October 2018 15:23 (five years ago) link

oh boy - so even though nothing other than one virtual training class is scheduled between 12/3 - 12/23, I decided to be proactive and tell them I can't travel between 12/3 - 12/23, because I am doing a theatrical production, among other obligations (ie concert tickets) and it sounds like things are starting to get ridiculous.

she tells me she'll 'do her best to accommodate, but the calendar might change'.

so...how the hell am I supposed to have a life outside of work if I can't plan things two months out because you're going to arbitrarily tell me that might not work?

I am not ok with this and told my boss so.

humorously, one of our values is "People Matter". I guess just not "all" people.

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 2 October 2018 16:12 (five years ago) link

Neanderthal, that's the worst. When I was an assistant store manager, my immediate supervisor (the store manager) was horrible about creating schedules and doing one of two things: 1) Granting people their requested days off before the schedule was posted and then, upon writing the schedule where those days fell, scheduling the employee anyway and / 2) Just pretending they never got the day off requests to begin with. Sometimes, they wouldn't post the next week's schedule until the day before the new week started. The company has a policy that all days off must be requested at least three weeks in advance. The problems that resulted from this should be pretty apparent. It was extremely shitty. I was in management, so I had to be there all the damn time anyway, so it didn't bother me. I had a way better rapport with the staff than the store manager, so inevitably they all started to come to me with their discrepancies. I told them all that there wasn't really anything I could do with my authority, so I told everyone to just go to HR and tell them that the schedule isn't being posted within the legal timeframe of fourteen days. I don't know how many people actually did that, but about a week later, the district manager was in the store asking me if I had ever been allowed to write the schedule (of course, I hadn't). It eventually got cleared up, but there was a time for about three or four months when it was just completely fucked up. The schedule would be posted, but there would have been so many mistakes made when it was written that it was a running joke for a while that the schedule was simply a list of people who worked for us and nothing else.

Also, Veg:


i just would like to ban everyone from asking me questions while witholding that they know at least some of the answer

I would like to propose that this is the action of a malicious person who has bad intentions. No exceptions. For someone like me that struggles with a lot of anxiety and paranoia anyway, this is just gross manipulation and I would interpret it as a sign that the questioner has an active vendetta against me, whether founded in substance or not.

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Tuesday, 2 October 2018 17:03 (five years ago) link

I despised that too. over time I started to get good at reading when people were doing this and deliberately sabotage them, i.e. "my understanding is this is the answer, however I suspect you've spent more time on this than me, so if you believe that's incorrect, please let me know and show me wehre it says taht".

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 2 October 2018 17:22 (five years ago) link

I will admit to occasionally doing this when I think a coworker or my kid is lying to me.

Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 2 October 2018 23:09 (five years ago) link

what kind of person registers on the company-wide message board (potentially hundreds if not thousands of people) using only his (common) first name? good-luck jonathan.

(that said, i used my slightly cryptic company-assigned userid - surname, first initial, 2 digits, so i'm probably as bad, for the opposite reason.)

koogs, Wednesday, 3 October 2018 08:36 (five years ago) link

Email exchange:

Me: <asks question>

2 days later, response:

Idiot: How are you progressing? Any questions, let me know

Me: Yes, the same question I asked before you fucking moron

Colonel Poo, Wednesday, 3 October 2018 15:56 (five years ago) link

Haha I am frequently Idiot.

Eyeball Kicks, Wednesday, 3 October 2018 16:04 (five years ago) link

what kind of person registers on the company-wide message board (potentially hundreds if not thousands of people) using only his (common) first name? good-luck jonathan.


A person who needs no further introduction?

breastcrawl, Wednesday, 3 October 2018 16:05 (five years ago) link

one of my co-workers is an Upstate Limo Crash Truther

mookieproof, Tuesday, 9 October 2018 18:43 (five years ago) link

Do I want to know? (I do)

Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 9 October 2018 18:53 (five years ago) link

i put my headphones on, so i didn't actually hear the theory

mookieproof, Tuesday, 9 October 2018 18:59 (five years ago) link

I read in the local paper that the limo company driver was an FBI informant for the Newburgh 4 case so I'm assuming the conspiracy theory has something to do with that.

tokyo rosemary, Tuesday, 9 October 2018 19:33 (five years ago) link

"I'll tell you what's the funniest thing ever, right? EVER. There's never been ANYTHING funnier."

me: don't say del boy falling through the bar don't say del boy falling through the bar don't say del boy falling through the bar don't say del boy falling through the bar

"Del Boy falling through the bar. It's only just ahead of”

me: don't say chandelier don't say chandelier don't say chandelier don't say chandelier

"that one where they're emptying the house and he knocks the chandelier out of the ceiling BUT IT'S THE WRONG ONE!"

Bimlo Horsewagon became Wheelbarrow Horseflesh (aldo), Friday, 12 October 2018 12:39 (five years ago) link

I would only be thinking of Stewart Lee in such an exchange.

https://vimeo.com/141220204

brain (krakow), Friday, 12 October 2018 22:07 (five years ago) link

The solution to every problem in this thread: Get your boss to buy you a fancy pair of Panasonic horse blinders!

https://static.dezeen.com/uploads/2018/10/panasonic-blinkers-technology-design_dezeen_2364_hero-1.jpg

grawlix (unperson), Wednesday, 17 October 2018 13:38 (five years ago) link

Friday's one was like a stand-up routine and it's taken until now for me not to be mad about it.

One chap lecturing another about how Hitler was just a misunderstood chap, and did so in the form of a number of 'and I was the teacher's statements that were e.g. "and who had a policy of reducing the price of food for working families? Hitler. You wouldn't have guessed that, eh?" although he let down his perceived logic by ending with "and of course he hated Eastern Europeans and Jews".

The reason you don't know all his good points is because Thatcher covered it all up so you wouldn't find out he was a good guy.

The Valleys are fkn weird (in addition to being massively racist - the second week I was here there was a discussion about the Solihull murders as the guy was being sentenced and one of the women in the office said it was "kind of sad, but it's not as if they were real people, is it.").

Bimlo Horsewagon became Wheelbarrow Horseflesh (aldo), Wednesday, 17 October 2018 14:13 (five years ago) link

This isn't even the racist part of Wales, you have to go to Oswestry and all points north for the places the people here would describe as racist.

Bimlo Horsewagon became Wheelbarrow Horseflesh (aldo), Wednesday, 17 October 2018 14:16 (five years ago) link

Ive never understood this Del Boy falling thru bar thing. ILX was the first place I'd even heard the phrase so I googled it, found the scene in question on youtube and was utterly baffled. Had to be there I guess?

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Tuesday, 23 October 2018 02:50 (five years ago) link

I assumed it was a poll result winner for funniest scene in funniest show ever or something to that effect. It triggered Stewart lee doing an extended sketch illustrating it as something going into popular culture on a ceremonial level. Showed it as an Up Helly Ah like event that would be celebrated for centuries, become a tradition in itself. Which may be why it's in the list consciousness more than it would be otherwise.
It was kind of funny in its original context cos it showed a pretentious idiot having a momentary comeuppance. Thought it was one element among many that would probably be mostly forgotten if teh show it was from hadn't got further circulation through vhs sales and endless repeats.
Much like the chandelier thing being the funniest thing ever. Was quite ribtickling at the time but should fade into the public memory if that and not always be thrown up as the pinnacle.

Stevolende, Tuesday, 23 October 2018 09:37 (five years ago) link

A quick googling reveals it to be the perennial runner up in actual polls, but it's a mainstay in the innumerate recent-era nostalgia circuits as having become the consensus pick.

If we're going to pick apart Stewart Lee's take as a curmudgeonly middle-class metropolitan lefty elitist, it's because this is a very minor part of the episode in question which is all about attempts to game Right To Buy in order to exploit the forthcoming inevitable gentrification of the area - a last hurrah of self-immolation sacrificing working class lifetimes of struggle in the pursuit of a brick-sized mobile phone. Or is it about 20 seconds of physical comedy? OFaH itself plays with the class struggle never acknowledged by The Guardian, that working classes (particularly London) completely buy into the the aspirational elements of Conservative mythology and vote accordingly, and Del Boy is a Thatcherite poster hero using his own guile and abilities to better himself. Or does Trigger do a face? Perhaps it's even a commentary on the soundbite culture and lack of attention span in today's society - the series reduces to Trigger calling Rodney Dave, Del Boy falling through the bar, Trigger's broom, the chandelier and hahaha they think they're shagging in the van after the auction. Fuck the rest, it's not important. Who dares wins Rodders.

Bimlo Horsewagon became Wheelbarrow Horseflesh (aldo), Tuesday, 23 October 2018 09:57 (five years ago) link

how could you forget del boy and rodney as batman and robin ffs

i’ll hufflepuff i’ll blow you away (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 23 October 2018 09:59 (five years ago) link

Oh yes Del Boy and Rodney as batman and robin (in an episode that flirts with a future of the Baby Damien basically becoming a hybrid of Murdoch and Trump, debates whether Del Boy actually cares about Rodney beyond obligation, plots the breakup of Rodney and Cassandra's marriage and the 'unfairness' of fertility Vs wanting children and ends up being about council corruption and behind closed doors deals based on favours, even to support obviously bent schemes).

Bimlo Horsewagon became Wheelbarrow Horseflesh (aldo), Tuesday, 23 October 2018 10:07 (five years ago) link

XP I thought nobody could, or was allowed to forget about that.
Probably caused a lot of people to go to fancy dress parties as them since too.

Stevolende, Tuesday, 23 October 2018 10:25 (five years ago) link

KInd of funny how decontextualised the public memory of certain things becomes really.
When you're talking about the actual background its contextualised to in the original.
Seems to happen a lot with things 'in public knowledge' dunnit?

Stevolende, Tuesday, 23 October 2018 10:27 (five years ago) link

aldo, you're skirting dangerously close to me advocating for you to do an exhaustive episode-by-episode breakdown of the entirety of only fools and horses

i’ll hufflepuff i’ll blow you away (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 23 October 2018 10:29 (five years ago) link

Probably caused a lot of people to go to fancy dress parties as them since too.

Going to a fancy dress party dressed up as someone going to a fancy dress party explains a lot.

Actually since Trigger's broom is from the same episode and the auction is from the third of those Christmas specials there's an argument that nobody remembers anything except the concluding trilogy (and let's not go near the sequel trilogy).

To return to the Class War subtext, the rights were one of the big investments for UK Gold and repeated indefinitely to exploit the expenditure back in the days when a satellite dish on a house was like a Right To Buy graffiti tag; this makes the populist viewers the del boys and the curmudgeonly middle-class metropolitan lefty elitists the nostalgia pundits, ignoring generations of aspirational behaviour because do you remember the Chartists Stew? The Chartists with their 'votes for all men over 21'? They Chartists Stew? They had a march, didn't they, eh? Joseph Rayner Stephens with his 'votes for all men over 21'? William Lamb the Viscount Melbourne did a face.

Bimlo Horsewagon became Wheelbarrow Horseflesh (aldo), Tuesday, 23 October 2018 10:53 (five years ago) link

Thing is, these comedy bits enter the common parlance, often shorn of the actual conclusion.

The falling through bar bit - OK, th "David Beckham" one was funnier, but mainly because on that Comic Relief thing, I was doubting that any thing about it was going to be funny so it was unexpected. A bit.

The Chandelier thing: "Well, I wish you'd told me! I was doing that one!" is the funny. Not the crashing to the floor bit.

A different one, less cited, is Del doing a "Why Ask?" routine, based around "Where have you been all night? Been down the pub!!" which finishes off with Trigger going "Yeah! .... Why Ask?" and you just know he hasn't understood a word of it.

Mark G, Tuesday, 23 October 2018 10:55 (five years ago) link

xpost! (Lols)

Mark G, Tuesday, 23 October 2018 10:56 (five years ago) link

common parlance was what I was referring to as public knowledge.

Funny that a lot of things will take on a life of their own when de-anchored from their original context and in fact themselves become normative. Not sure how beneficial the end result is.

Stevolende, Tuesday, 23 October 2018 11:39 (five years ago) link

"It triggered Stewart Lee doing an extended sketch illustrating it as something going into popular culture on a ceremonial level. Showed it as an Up Helly Ah like event that would be celebrated for centuries, become a tradition in itself."

Del Day:

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x32cwns

koogs, Tuesday, 23 October 2018 12:15 (five years ago) link

one learner's favorite phrase:

"I promise I was listening, but..." then proceed to ask me to repeat the entire instruction I already stated 3 times.

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 23 October 2018 12:17 (five years ago) link

Now that we're probably nearing a triple-digit number of instances where I've forwarded an email to a particular coworker (because it was meant for him) only to have him inexplicably send it right back to me without additional comment, I think I've moved all the way through irritation and into deep concern for his well-being. Like maybe he has a gaping head wound we've all been somehow overlooking for months.

a butt, at which the shaft of ridicule is daily glanced (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 23 October 2018 12:49 (five years ago) link

I've just done the Unconscious Bias online training at the place I'm currently placed in.

Maybe it's my unconscious bias showing but I think the person who drew it up is a fucking idiot and anyone who considered paying for it is even more of a fucking idiot.

It genuinely recommends that, so you're not biased against candidates, the following information should be redacted from CVs prior to conducting an interview:

Name and gender
Date and place of birth
Marital and family status
Home address
Education history
Work history
Hobbies and interests

Bimlo Horsewagon became Wheelbarrow Horseflesh (aldo), Tuesday, 23 October 2018 14:38 (five years ago) link

Also:
Words
Whitespace
Printed matter/electronic files

A CV is more a feeling than anything else, really.

a butt, at which the shaft of ridicule is daily glanced (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 23 October 2018 14:40 (five years ago) link

Education and work history was the bit they were most focused on. Apparently there's a real danger that you value experience you know about rather than experience you have no idea about, or that mutual acquaintances can give you an opinion that you might consider as part of a decision.

Bimlo Horsewagon became Wheelbarrow Horseflesh (aldo), Tuesday, 23 October 2018 14:42 (five years ago) link

i'd be inclined to give that a whirl tbh, lots of ppl's education and previous work history is irrelevant to their job. I'm not convinced the correlation between experience and competence is v strong. recruitment is such an appalling business. I know plenty of ppl who are excellent at their jobs who'd never have got them through applying/their CV.

ogmor, Tuesday, 23 October 2018 15:00 (five years ago) link

I agree on the below being redacted, unless the job requires specialized education to be listed or if you don't have very much work experience, are a newbie to the work force.

Name and gender
Date and place of birth
Marital and family status
Home address
Education history
Hobbies and interests

Yerac, Tuesday, 23 October 2018 15:08 (five years ago) link

if this is internal hiring, that's mega crap re: work history. external hiring, a bit more nebulous - I had zero call center work experience, at a time when that usually was something held against you during interviews, and lucked into getting the job and parlayed it into a 14 year career.

but even then - they still weren't "ignoring" my work history!!! they were very much looking at how what I did mapped into the role I was applying for.

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 23 October 2018 15:10 (five years ago) link

I started to leave out the year I graduated college just because I was annoyed by terrible interviewers feeling obligated to ask about the 3 year or whatever gap right after college where I didn't list employment because it was well over a decade ago and i literally can't put "fucking around" as my job.

Yerac, Tuesday, 23 October 2018 15:10 (five years ago) link

The Trigger's broom joke was common parlance before it was Trigger's; I'd heard my dad say it many times before it appeared on OFaH.

fetter, Tuesday, 23 October 2018 16:05 (five years ago) link

Was your dad Plutarch?

Eyeball Kicks, Tuesday, 23 October 2018 16:11 (five years ago) link

Trigger's brom a thing about whether a brush that you replaced the head and the handle on several times remains the same broom?
I've seen that come up in different circumstances too. THing about identity or object constancy that has cropped up in some philosophical stuff i've studied.

Stevolende, Tuesday, 23 October 2018 16:14 (five years ago) link

Otherwise know as the Ship of Theseus... (Eyeball Kicks otm)

I have an unconscious bias course to do but have to do it "face to face".

All removing those things from CVS will do is mean that you do more interviews of unsuitable candidates, wasting more time. And the moment you set eyes on them in reception it all goes out the window anyway.

koogs, Tuesday, 23 October 2018 18:21 (five years ago) link

Job interviews should be one question long: Do you shit at the office?

(The correct answer is NO, barring a life-threatening emergency.)

grawlix (unperson), Tuesday, 23 October 2018 19:09 (five years ago) link

Bollocks. If i held in a shit at the office all day then everybody would be bitching about my flatulence all day

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 23 October 2018 19:13 (five years ago) link

wtf, getting paid to shit is the only reason to go to work

i’ll hufflepuff i’ll blow you away (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 23 October 2018 19:33 (five years ago) link

next you’ll be tryna tell me that embezzling six figures from my employer each year is wrong too

i’ll hufflepuff i’ll blow you away (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 23 October 2018 19:35 (five years ago) link

If embezzling shits is wrong, I don’t want to be right.

Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 23 October 2018 21:50 (five years ago) link

So imagine you have a department in your company whose job is putting together peanut butter and jelly sandwiches. And you send them a request for one of their delicious sandwiches because you need it in order to do your own job, and they send you back a slice of bread. And you say, well, no, I actually wanted a whole sandwich, so y'know...send it back once you've corrected the problem. And then they send you two slices of bread. And so you say, ahem, maybe you forgot something? And then they send you a peanut butter sandwich with no jelly. And then you basically have to walk this other department through an entire process whose details you really shouldn't have ever had to think about. This has been my morning. This has been my morning. And I assume my afternoon will be centered around the fallout of an embolism or perhaps a stroke. Some sort of stress-related brain event, for sure.

a butt, at which the shaft of ridicule is daily glanced (Old Lunch), Friday, 26 October 2018 16:53 (five years ago) link

we're probably nearing a triple-digit number of instances where I've forwarded an email to a particular coworker (because it was meant for him) only to have him inexplicably send it right back to me without additional comment

This is just a single email that you've been mailing back and forth for years, right, its meaning long forgotten? And he thinks you're as defective as you think he is? Good old work.

mick signals, Friday, 26 October 2018 17:04 (five years ago) link

And the entire company is copied on it, and we always reply all.

a butt, at which the shaft of ridicule is daily glanced (Old Lunch), Friday, 26 October 2018 17:07 (five years ago) link

Please note: regardless of how many parties you may have previously contacted about your issue, the first email you send to me in particular is, in fact, a first request. Not a third or fourth or fifth, but a first. No matter how large a font you use or how emphatically you employ caps in insisting that this is a SEVENTH REQUEST!!!!!!!, it will not retroactively generate the emails that you didn't prior to this, the first request which I've received. Thanks so much for your kind attention.

a butt, at which the shaft of ridicule is daily glanced (Old Lunch), Monday, 29 October 2018 15:47 (five years ago) link

the hot water from the taps here is too hot to put your hands in (why?). but they are mixer taps and you can control the mix using the lever on the top. move it anti-clockwise, all the way away from you, to get cold water, move it clockwise, all the way towards you, for scaldingly hot. simple enough.

only the tap in the other kitchen is on the other side of the sink so the positions are reversed.

people here also don't know not to try and flush paper towels, the idiots.

koogs, Monday, 29 October 2018 16:07 (five years ago) link

one of my colleagues recently switched spaces with another colleague, and although the one that was in the adjacent cubicle had her own very annoying habits, the replacement gets on my nerves even more with her frequent loud drawer opening and closing. like closing the drawer loudly against the divider between our desks. she's forever getting something out of her drawers! Snacks, some sort of stationery, you name it, she will retrieve it from the drawers. she's not a particularly sensitive person. she's one of those kath from kath & kim types that gets her little sachet of whatever, idk creamer? and will stir it really loudly and furiously into her mug at her desk. there are certain kinds of people in my office, let's call them bogans, that are terrible for the furious tea and instant coffee stirring. no thought of how annoying their presences are on a daily basis.

thank goddddd she is leaving us soon

vanjie wail (qiqing), Tuesday, 30 October 2018 20:56 (five years ago) link

It has taken our whole office a number of days to realise that whenever someone uses the kitchen toaster, it flips a safety switch which kills all our computers. This has happened about a dozen times, and yet nobody who turned on the toaster just as everything died thought to say anything.

Mince Pramthwart (James Morrison), Thursday, 1 November 2018 01:40 (five years ago) link

At what point did confidently asserting one's abject ignorance come to replace competence? And can we switch things the fuck back already?

a butt, at which the shaft of ridicule is daily glanced (Old Lunch), Thursday, 1 November 2018 18:48 (five years ago) link

i didn't like it when someone dumped a battered chair behind desk but i figured it was a wide aisle and not exactly in the way.

but today someone is using said chair as a clothes horse. there are damp jackets and socks hanging from it.

koogs, Wednesday, 7 November 2018 09:46 (five years ago) link

can we get back to aldo on Fools & Horses? Or, it may deserve a dedicated thread.

kraudive, Wednesday, 7 November 2018 23:13 (five years ago) link

This is more my stupid, possibly future co-workers.

I'm supposed to give a presentation at a job interview (the second round!) this Tuesday. But it seems like they've forgotten to give me the brief on what to present.

I sent them an email today, and an email Wednesday when I got the offer, and they still haven't sent me a brief. I called the HR team and they didn't help at all.

Not sure what to do next! This doesn't exactly reassure me about working there, if they expect someone to make a presentation based on a brief given to them just the day before.

Chuck_Tatum, Friday, 9 November 2018 16:19 (five years ago) link

Maybe they'll give you the brief when you get there? Give you ten minutes to prepare something. I've heard of interviews like that, but like you I would be wary of working somewhere that did them.

Eyeball Kicks, Friday, 9 November 2018 16:23 (five years ago) link

What kind of job is it (sector?)

Yerac, Friday, 9 November 2018 16:27 (five years ago) link

my new boss is starting to annoy me. so, I went on a business trip a few months ago. All of the expenses were filed and reimbursed. However, I was a few days late per AmEx's standard, so I was charged a $39 late fee. That late fees are my responsibility is fairly unambiguous, so I paid it myself. However, there was also a toll charge that came in a month after the trip from the rental car company.

I had stayed over the weekend on said business trip, and decided to take a trip to Virginia, 4 hours away. As the rental car mileage was unlimited, and this was not expressly forbidden by the travel policy, I opted to go, but I decided to use only my own money for the duration of that escapade, to err on the side of caution...meaning all gas, food, etc, that would have normally been paid by the business card, I paid for myself. So, naturally, when this toll charge came in...I also paid it myself.

However, these things still show up in your electronic Wallet, and we're moving systems in Jan, so I opted to file an expense report to 'clear' my Wallet. I did so, marking everything non-reimbursable, and informing my boss that I was owed no money, and that it was just to clear my wallet. She approves it, but asks curiously where the charges came from.

I was transparent and told her, same as I've written here. Radio silence for over a day. Now, I'm on PTO this week, and just logged in to send that email, so maybe she's trying to wait til I get back, but there's no easier way to spike my anxiety than not to simply write back "oh, ok, makes sense! thanks". besides, if she's doing it out of respect to my vacation, well, now I'm sitting here anxious about finding out if I'm in trouble* or not.

*I don't see how I could be, as I used zero company dollars for anything that wasn't eligible, but my boss is kind of a ditz when it comes to the travel policy.

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 20 November 2018 21:42 (five years ago) link

Just had a chat about retirement savings with a coworker. He thought that the "k" in 401(k) stood for thousands, and thought the name 401(k) was to encourage people to save $401,000 for retirement. I asked if he didn't think that was an odd number to settle on, and he said "I figured they thought it sounded better, like 99 cents sounds better than a dollar when you're in a store."

This is the same guy who was putting his coffee grounds on top of the filter in his French press on the off chance anyone remembers that story from the coffee thread.

early rejecter, Tuesday, 20 November 2018 21:57 (five years ago) link

I... thought that too (in my defence I’m british)

single bed mentality (||||||||), Tuesday, 20 November 2018 21:58 (five years ago) link

My annoying future co-workers

Got a new job - yay - and asked my future manager to wait till I'd given my notice before sending out my references.

Naturally the HR team forgot and sent them out before I'd told my boss.

Fun discussion tomorrow!

Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 26 November 2018 14:01 (five years ago) link

I thought the (k) means it's kosher?

Congrats to Chuck on a new world of stupid annoyance!

mick signals, Monday, 26 November 2018 14:20 (five years ago) link

Next time you have a rush request, how about instead of getting all over my ass you take your thumb out of your own sometime before the deadline, how about that.

Fantasy Eyelid (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 27 November 2018 20:14 (five years ago) link

Anybody else here read Ask a Manager to get more of stupid co-workers?

WmC, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 02:37 (five years ago) link

The one about the woman whose dad was dating her boss and they tried to get her to go to counseling with them - bonkers

just1n3, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 03:14 (five years ago) link

Oh yeah, loved that one. The comment sections have everything moderated out of them but smug self-regard, but the letters are great.

WmC, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 03:18 (five years ago) link

Coworker (via email): Here is a thing that doesn't pertain to your job and that I have no reason to send you, and also as an added bonus I'm just forwarding it to you without any additional explanation.
Me (giving the benefit of the doubt, against my better judgment): Hi, I believe you might have sent this to me in error.
Coworker: You left a note in the file indicating that you wanted this information.
Me: (checks file, plainly sees the name of a completely different person who in fact requested this info, sets desk on fire and goes home for the weekend)

all lite up and very romatic (Old Lunch), Friday, 30 November 2018 20:57 (five years ago) link

i’ve been helping to mentor a new admin over the past few weeks. last night she learned the horrors of end of month billing + sales shenanigans ie “i really need this giant complicated thing for which i can only give vague details handled NOW” at 10 minutes to 5pm last night. i felt so sympathetic to the stress of the experience that i stayed back with a senior coworker to help her take care of it.

i am liking my job a lot more than i did but that specific aspect of it still sucks beyond measure

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 1 December 2018 22:00 (five years ago) link

yessss someone just reply-alled to 800 people and attached a healthcare flexible-spending account enrollment form featuring their ssn and everything

mookieproof, Tuesday, 4 December 2018 18:14 (five years ago) link

I believe the polite approach in this situation is, for the sake of clarification, to let all 800 people know that the email wasn't meant for you.

Mom's out working, for fulfillment (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 4 December 2018 18:21 (five years ago) link

'please remove me from this thread'

mookieproof, Tuesday, 4 December 2018 18:24 (five years ago) link

It may seem unnecessary, but I promise that you'll see the more etiquette-minded individuals in your company doing just that very shortly.

Mom's out working, for fulfillment (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 4 December 2018 18:25 (five years ago) link

And when you do, you should thank them for their manners (copying everyone on the thread, naturally).

Mom's out working, for fulfillment (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 4 December 2018 18:26 (five years ago) link

The people who Reply All to ask to be removed are angels compared to the people who Reply All to scold everyone else about hitting Reply All.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Tuesday, 4 December 2018 18:54 (five years ago) link

who are these people who just piss all over the toilet seat and floor without cleaning it up ?! wth would you do that in your own house

single bed mentality (||||||||), Friday, 7 December 2018 10:50 (five years ago) link

The question which occurred to me lately is: how does one manage that neat puddle in front of the urinal without absolutely hosing down one's shoes?

I won't even detail some of the horrific scenes I've encountered in our professional office restroom used exclusively by professionals. Animals would be repulsed.

I've seen the Academy Awards, I've been around (Old Lunch), Friday, 7 December 2018 11:20 (five years ago) link

Not every request or piece of correspondence that you receive is a hot potato that you need to toss to me as soon as you receive it. If you spend 20-30 seconds examining these things and confirming whether they should even be forwarded to me at all, I promise they will not burn you.

my hand is finally unglued from my face (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 11 December 2018 16:01 (five years ago) link

sat here fixing things for a semi-hard deadline, kind of annoyed that the last week has had three mandatory end-of year meetings just eating into my time.

and then i look up and my team-lead is fannying around making the 'information radiator' that we have here, the one that normally shows build status etc, show snowflakes instead.

koogs, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 15:13 (five years ago) link

FEELING YOU. I'm out of the office for the rest of the year as of a week from tomorrow, I have a sudden annoying uptick in my workflow as I'm trying to get everything caught up, but oh hey let us please have a meeting every day because you might not feel as important if you weren't saying aloud the useless things that could be just as easily communicated (and twice as easily ignored) in an email.

We don't like hearing stories of a melted thermos. (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 15:29 (five years ago) link

ha, customer's christmas code freeze means that the thing i was rushing for them is no longer a priority.

i now have about 2 hours of things that i need to do this year.

koogs, Thursday, 13 December 2018 11:53 (five years ago) link

I'm looking forward to working much of the xmas break for similar reasons - IT companies all have embargoes from like Dec 20 to Jan 2, so I'm likely to spend Dec 27-28 sitting in the office knitting, or playing video games cos there aint gonna be much work to do.

Pity its not overtime but oh well.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Friday, 14 December 2018 02:20 (five years ago) link

Last week the office manager sent an all-staff email saying she had put some samples (lotions/shampoo/etc I think) from her friend's "business" in the kitchen. I looked up the name and yeah it's some kind of MLM thing. I made some comment to a colleague I'm not sure it's appropriate for her to be shilling for some pyramid scheme in the office but then forgot about it.

This morning she sent another all-staff email complaining that she went to get the samples today and 2 are missing, and they aren't free so she has to pay for them unless someone owns up to who took them. I mean she said they were samples, they are usually free aren't they? I'd be pretty annoyed if I had taken one and was now asked to pay for it.

Colonel Poo, Wednesday, 19 December 2018 13:38 (five years ago) link

Yes, I'd argue that the 'free' in 'free sample' is assumed and redundant and if you refer to something as a sample it's pretty much on you if you meant 'actually not a sample at all'.

Loggins and Rogers and G are...K3NNY (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 19 December 2018 13:47 (five years ago) link

Just picturing a panic-stricken Costco employee on the intercom, 'attention customers, I had a trayful of tiny plastic cups of trail mix laid out and now I see that two cups of trail mix are missing, please don't force me to alert security.'

Loggins and Rogers and G are...K3NNY (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 19 December 2018 13:50 (five years ago) link

I just checked the original email and it wasn't the office manager (sorry office manager) but someone else with the same first name.

She even says please try out these samples at lunch and if you want to order some we can get them before Xmas.

But yeah lol that's what I was picturing too

Colonel Poo, Wednesday, 19 December 2018 13:54 (five years ago) link

my boss has been going around telling people she is “off for her morning constitutional” - meaning off for her morning walk. don’t have the heart to tell her that that’s the archaic meaning of that phrase and that she’s actually telling people she’s off for her morning jobby

||||||||, Wednesday, 19 December 2018 14:22 (five years ago) link

Horses have the courtesy to combine both activities

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 19 December 2018 14:33 (five years ago) link

the archaic meaning of that phrase

when did it acquire this alleged new meaning, outside of a joke euphemism

sans lep (sic), Wednesday, 19 December 2018 15:32 (five years ago) link

It's not in Websters. I don't recall it ever being anything other than "a walk"

It sounds like it should be, but.

Mark G, Wednesday, 19 December 2018 15:47 (five years ago) link

OK, its in the Urban Dictionary as such, filed under "ten minute club"

Mark G, Wednesday, 19 December 2018 15:48 (five years ago) link

i had to look up what a "jobby" was. very glad i did.

Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 19 December 2018 16:29 (five years ago) link

Uhh I get that "morning constitutional"'s real meaning isn't poop but uhh its secondary use is nowhere near as obscure or "ten minutes" as y'all are claiming. Least not in these parts.

But i'd also argue the primary usage isn't archaic and everybody would know she meant a walk so...

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 19 December 2018 16:55 (five years ago) link

What’s wrong with ‘dropping the kids off at the pool’?

suzy, Wednesday, 19 December 2018 17:55 (five years ago) link

Uhh I get that "morning constitutional"'s real meaning isn't poop but uhh its secondary use is nowhere near as obscure or "ten minutes" as y'all are claiming. Least not in these parts.

I adjure my honorable fellows to consider the source.

sans lep (sic), Wednesday, 19 December 2018 17:58 (five years ago) link

I've never said it in my life!

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 19 December 2018 18:03 (five years ago) link

can’t believe ur all cutting about announcing ur jobbies like this

||||||||, Wednesday, 19 December 2018 18:11 (five years ago) link

I just meant of course ILX's most openly bowel-movement-centric poster is jobbying for Big Poopa

sans lep (sic), Wednesday, 19 December 2018 18:35 (five years ago) link

ahem

Colonel Poo, Wednesday, 19 December 2018 18:55 (five years ago) link

pulling rank

gabbnebulous (darraghmac), Wednesday, 19 December 2018 18:58 (five years ago) link

the og plopper

||||||||, Wednesday, 19 December 2018 19:14 (five years ago) link

What’s wrong with ‘dropping the kids off at the pool’?

― suzy, Wednesday, 19 December 2018 17:55 (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

The other week I was supposed to deliver a presentation and asked if everyone had arrived and a colleague said "A___ will be five minutes, he's just sending a friend to the coast" which was a) far tmi and b) a new one to me

Non, je ned raggette rien (onimo), Thursday, 20 December 2018 01:23 (five years ago) link

Admittedly I’ve learned most of my poophemisms from guys from Glasgow and surrounds, LOL.

suzy, Thursday, 20 December 2018 08:33 (five years ago) link

So there's a co-founder at my company who is a tremendous piece of shit, but luckily is almost never around the home office, preferring to jetset elsewhere. Today he was in and 1. had this to say about the women of Bermuda: "The girls in Bermuda are so beautiful [obnoxious, lengthy physical description of their characteristics], but they're so stuck up. They remind me of Persian girls..." (The fact that he is Persian does not make this much more palatable, as you can imagine.)

He then went on to claim to be friends with Rihanna.

resident hack (Simon H.), Thursday, 20 December 2018 18:48 (five years ago) link

he's just sending a friend to the coast

Is this some like, visual of poos floating off out to sea from the sewers?

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Friday, 21 December 2018 00:28 (five years ago) link

I think so.

Non, je ned raggette rien (onimo), Friday, 21 December 2018 01:31 (five years ago) link

I used to hear "little brown soldiers going AWOL" a lot.

Yerac, Friday, 21 December 2018 13:06 (five years ago) link

someone responded to my out of office message by saying "I know, Neanderthal, no need to remind me"...thinking I was manually writing this email to everybody who emailed me while I was out.

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Friday, 21 December 2018 15:11 (five years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Right now, we're doing a training redesign with a third party that we're paying. They've been awful from the very beginning - they were cheap, not particularly good, and they're completely in over their heads - they're used to training materials for simple how-to tutorials, not a complex, 560 hour training course. Their staff has also been a revolving door and they've sometimes hid new hires from us, despite them having to go through background checks prior to working with us.

In any case, it came to the point where we had to tell them we were not happy with their work, and they decided to try and save face by finding fault with our partnership...possibly to stave off a termination of the contract. So the main guy in charge on their end accused us of giving "non-actionable feedback", and inflating the feedback by focusing predominately on nitpicky things like punctuation.

A Trump-esque claim, because this is an outright lie that can be easily disproven. There were less than 5 comments left for punctuation out of near 100 comments total. Instead of our leaders growing some stones and backing us up, or actually validating the claim themselves, they gave this feedback to the person in charge of the project, as if it had weight, and asked her to make sure we weren't overfocusing on punctuation. Many of us decided we would leave egregious punctuation/grammar errors out there just so they couldn't hang us with it, and a day later, the same feedback was given to us again.

We now have six figure leaders micromanaging the feedback being left, rather than admitting we made a mistake in hiring these assholes and severing ties, maybe going to arbitration to recoup money spent. It's been almost a year and they've shown little improvement - but somehow that's our fault.

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Thursday, 10 January 2019 00:19 (five years ago) link

They don't teach that kind of leadership in business courses, but somehow most managers learn it on the job anyway. If they admitted they were wrong to hire these bozos, then they give their bosses proof that they are not competent to make decisions of that magnitude, which is pretty much their whole job description. What justifies their six-figure salaries, except their ability to correctly make those weighty, costly, and difficult decisions? So, it can't be that they botched the contracting process, right?

A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 10 January 2019 00:30 (five years ago) link

I'm on a small email thread, planning a project, with a guy who is a writer for a living but maybe he uses voice recognition when he writes emails?

Ahhh, okay, this sounds good to me, yeah I think ff we should have that cause other wise it'll have to be a call for the newer people who are newer / it's more of a general problem. Jillian thinks of a space that is best to start this effort, than can start doing it here and potentially get arrive some of the work. So yeah I agree that's how we we left it till next time, thanks.

mick signals, Saturday, 12 January 2019 16:03 (five years ago) link

two weeks pass...

this could only happen to my dumb ass. So we use Skype for Business at work. Today was a pretty light day as a bunch of things I'm suppose to work on are waiting on something, and I work from home, so I decided to go shit, then take a shower. But I'd had to use Skype on my phone earlier as the desktop version had crashed during a meeting, so it was still on.

So on the john, I flip on my phone and see I got a message from my boss, asking how things are going. Since I'd been gone 5+ minutes I decided to reply and say "uhh nada just working on prepping for tomorrow's session". So she then asks "do you have a moment to chat?".

Figuring I better just "finish", and go back out to my workstation since who knows what she's going to ask me, I go out there. I pulled up Skype on the computer and typed "sure" in response to that message.

And then I realized that sometimes, if you're on Skype in two locations, Skype doesn't show the messages on the other device. I pull up my phone and realize I never closed out Skype on it, and moments before I typed "sure", she had asked me "hey, we need someone to travel to San Juan next Monday, for two weeks. are you available?"

So I'd just unwittingly agreed to the travel, and before I could clarify what I meant, there she was thanking me.

Yay! :(

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Monday, 28 January 2019 23:46 (five years ago) link

(don't get me wrong, I probably would have said "yes" anyway based on the politics of the office, but I would have liked some time to work it out first).

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Monday, 28 January 2019 23:47 (five years ago) link

you get a trip to San Juan, congrats

sans lep (sic), Tuesday, 29 January 2019 00:06 (five years ago) link

I thought the punchline was going to be the boss got extended audio of you taking a shit.

How ILX Finally Stopped Shredding Everything in Sight (WmC), Tuesday, 29 January 2019 00:40 (five years ago) link

you brought leftover chicken bacon ranch pasta which you made for a candlelight dinner with your husband. i am so glad i only have to eat lunch with you for 6 more weeks.

forensic plumber (harbl), Tuesday, 29 January 2019 00:56 (five years ago) link

you get a trip to San Juan, congrats

― sans lep (sic), Monday, January 28, 2019 7:06 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Aint pooh poohing that but i have to bail out of a few obligations with friends and family which i have to figure out.

Not to mention i wont get to see much beyond the hotel and office. But its fine

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 29 January 2019 02:15 (five years ago) link

considering this and the countless other posts, across multiple years and jobs, that you've made on this thread . . . maybe it's actually you who is the stupid, annoying co-worker

mookieproof, Tuesday, 29 January 2019 03:41 (five years ago) link

that was quite actually the point of my post, but go ahead and eat a dick anyway

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 29 January 2019 04:25 (five years ago) link

you fucking shitbeak

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 29 January 2019 04:25 (five years ago) link

or maybe walk into traffic

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 29 January 2019 04:25 (five years ago) link

"hey I'll make a fun post about how stupid I was for accidentally agreeing to go on a trip due to reading skype on the toilet, this will go well"

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 29 January 2019 04:27 (five years ago) link

I thought the punchline was going to be the boss got extended audio of you taking a shit.


Same. Disappointed. Hah

nathom, Tuesday, 29 January 2019 07:48 (five years ago) link

I am happy to say my coworkers are great. Felt sorry cause my one colleague was crying over her ex. Told her to take a long lunch break. :-(

nathom, Tuesday, 29 January 2019 07:50 (five years ago) link

i mean, i shouldn't complain because i have a job and for the most part i love everyone i work with, BUT

my name, according to the other administrator that I share duties with (technically she's supposed to be my supervisor but she is hapless), is

"Josh! I'm sorry....Jack!"
*walks down the hall*
"Oh. ... Zach!"

this has been going on for weeks now. every single fucking job i've worked at, no one can get my name right. usually they call by my last name, since it's also a first name (FUCK), and at my old job the email convention was lastname.firstname@__ so it kind of made sense that people would accidentally call me by my last name when they first met me.

but this is just silly

Karl Malone, Friday, 1 February 2019 20:05 (five years ago) link

tell them to call you the Mailman

mookieproof, Friday, 1 February 2019 20:08 (five years ago) link

at one point at my previous job I hung up a giant name/title on the outside of my cube that said

ZACH in 200 pt font, along with my last name in 8 point font. people would still walk by, lean across my cubicle entry way and address me by my last name

Karl Malone, Friday, 1 February 2019 20:21 (five years ago) link

Pretty sure I've mentioned itt that people I've worked with for years semi-regularly contact me via an email address which contains my full name and somehow still manage to misspell my name in the body of said email. Semi-regularly, this happens.

oh, that's a whole other subgenre for sure. half of the people who get my name right in person still spell it Zack in emails. but whatever, at least they hypothetically know how to form their mouthshape so it resembles my name, that's good enough

Karl Malone, Friday, 1 February 2019 20:51 (five years ago) link

There's a manager in a parallel group (he's the same level as my manager) that keeps frustrating people because he just. can't. understand. anything.

We've been working on a project where my group is an intermediary. Basically, the software version of delivering some documents. Some stuff has been reworked and needs to be resent from the original system, meaning what was originally sent no longer needs to be processed.

I get an email message: "mh, please delete the previous data that was sent earlier."

my group delivers the data. I do not have the data. It exists in a database his group controls.

I mentioned this to my peer in his group and the response was "I explained the same thing to him in a meeting yesterday, in front of our whole group"

he does this shit all the time! we can explain something a zillion different ways and it's like shouting into the void

mh, Friday, 1 February 2019 21:14 (five years ago) link

uh oh, mailman, I found video from your workplace. I didn't realize it was this bad.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_jcyLwpEXg

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Saturday, 2 February 2019 07:05 (five years ago) link

People call me by the wrong name all the time at work. I just let them (plus I like people not knowing who to email) and then once a couple of years go by I randomly will correct them in front of people. I think I posted about this before, but I was temporarily sitting at a desk for a couple of weeks until my office was ready and the nameplate read "Alice" something. So everyone from that department kept calling me Alice. I just kept responding to it for like 2 years until I had to sign up for March Madness and one of them was recording names.

Yerac, Saturday, 2 February 2019 16:09 (five years ago) link

looooooool Moodles, that is amazing. bookmarked for LIFE

Karl Malone, Saturday, 2 February 2019 17:27 (five years ago) link

It's a great film too, if you haven't seen it before

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Saturday, 2 February 2019 18:22 (five years ago) link

jarmusch, right? i haven't seen it. i assume the entire film is about jack and zach's adventures with people who can't get their names right

Karl Malone, Saturday, 2 February 2019 18:30 (five years ago) link

yep, basically that's the plot. 3 misfits share a jail cell, Tom Waits and John Lurie race to out shtick each other, while Roberto Benigni struggles to get their names right.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Saturday, 2 February 2019 19:24 (five years ago) link

The escape is one of my favorite bits in all of film.

One Thing All ILXors Have In Common, Brace Yourself (WmC), Saturday, 2 February 2019 20:47 (five years ago) link

really looking forward to when the guy next to me stops having a 1:1 call on leaky headphones, meaning the whole office hears 55% of a conversation (50% of it very loud), while he clicks and drums and fidgets with a springy biro and jiggles his creaky desk up and down with his knee

someone can probably work through this, perhaps even most people, but I suspect even the less sensorily-deranged people in the office are not reaching 100% efficiency while this goes on (50 minutes and counting)

p. sure the person on the other end is a manager so I guess they're OK with that though

a passing spacecadet, Thursday, 7 February 2019 10:50 (five years ago) link

My boss asked today how I felt ab the job. This freaked me out. Am I being let go? Don't think so but paranoia has set in. Lol.

nathom, Thursday, 7 February 2019 21:00 (five years ago) link

that seems like it could be innocuous unless you've seem downtrodden or have been griping? tbh I have been giving plenty of feedback lately regarding training I should be getting and things that my manager should be pushing back on

mh, Thursday, 7 February 2019 21:04 (five years ago) link

Yeah, she's actually very nice. Interested in how we're doing outside work. (Except one colleague. They hate eachother. I don't like it but try to keep out of it.)

nathom, Thursday, 7 February 2019 21:40 (five years ago) link

20 minutes now of them talking about wasps and rollercoasters and blind greyhounds and videogames and tv licence legalities. they sit facing each other, i sit two desks along but am only slightly further away and no amount of Late Junction in my earphones means i can't hear them just prattle on.

would noise cancelling earphones be impractical?

koogs, Thursday, 21 February 2019 11:19 (five years ago) link

Omfg yesterday manager and colleague had gigantic shouting fest in the shop. Very uncomfortable as we had two pple. I sold them some goods while trying to calm my colleagues down. Wtf. I really wanted to say: ffs take it upstairs.
Also they tried to make me take a side. No fucking way did Ido tgat

nathom, Thursday, 21 February 2019 18:34 (five years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Guy has learned the phrase "writ large" and uses it for all-purpose emphasis.

"I heard the hiring committee is made up of five men with only one woman, it's like sexism writ large!"

"I'm not sure we need to go over the December video numbers again, we've done that writ large."

mick signals, Thursday, 7 March 2019 21:59 (five years ago) link

It is time for lunch, for I am hungry writ large

Karl Malone, Thursday, 7 March 2019 23:40 (five years ago) link

Strangely, it's charming when you do it, loathsome when he does it

mick signals, Friday, 8 March 2019 07:52 (five years ago) link

one month passes...

someone has microwaved hot dogs

findom haddie (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 17 April 2019 19:47 (five years ago) link

did i ever mention the lady who used to work near me who would microwave a full, skin-on raw fish filet? that happened with regularity

mh, Wednesday, 17 April 2019 20:55 (five years ago) link

there's a few fish microwavers in my office which is abhorrent of course but somehow the hot dog really filled the whole office, more than any of the fish people. also all the fish people are either from eastern europe or the global south so perhaps my Western-Eurocentric mentality is as much to blame

findom haddie (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 17 April 2019 20:56 (five years ago) link

there's probably no discernible difference but for some reason some freshwater locally-caught fish seem especially odoriferous when microwaved, especially the amount of time to get it from raw to cooked

mh, Wednesday, 17 April 2019 21:11 (five years ago) link

woman, who admittedly already bothers me, has been complaining this afternoon about how bad her “migraine” is. aside from her sporadic complaining she seems fine – snacking on cheese and joking around with another coworker, at one point singing some song they were both trying to remember. as someone who suffers from the occasional, *actual * migraine – this really is getting under my skin. I will miss the odd day of work because of them, or sometimes leave early if I’ve got one coming on – but when I suggested she go home if she’s got a migraine, she just kinda shrugs and says she’ll be ok and has work to do (I also know for a fact she’s not too busy). maybe this belong on irrationally angry, but I want to choke her (she’s complaining about some friend of hers right now).

Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 25 April 2019 20:14 (five years ago) link

now she's left early to catch a movie/dinner.

Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 25 April 2019 21:24 (five years ago) link

but when I suggested she go home if she’s got a migraine, she just kinda shrugs and says she’ll be ok and has work to do (I also know for a fact she’s not too busy). maybe this belong on irrationally angry, but I want to choke her (she’s complaining about some friend of hers right now).

this annoys me too. also when people say things like "i'm so depressed right now", which is not something that someone who is depressed would say

these are not all of the possible side effects (Karl Malone), Thursday, 25 April 2019 22:31 (five years ago) link

yes! after she left i was talking to a coworker who's on the same page as me - and this is exactly what he said.

Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 26 April 2019 03:48 (five years ago) link

Hmmm. I do work with migraine attacks. That said, everyonz can tell though. But I do it cause I was warned staying home too much, wld be criticized. And it's doable. Not easy, but doable.

nathom, Friday, 26 April 2019 04:40 (five years ago) link

I've only ever had one full-on migraine and there was no way I could work through that, luckily I was home when it happened because all I could do was curl up in a ball on my bed.

I've had a few "silent migraines" at work where your vision gets blurry and you get aura symptoms, but you don't feel like your head is in a vice, you feel a bit dizzy and it's hard to look at computer screens when you've got shimmering lines all over your vision but you can kind of work through it and it goes away after about an hour. I guess technically it's still a migraine, could she have had one of those?

Colonel Poo, Friday, 26 April 2019 08:02 (five years ago) link

^ https://www.allaboutvision.com/conditions/ocular-migraine.htm

i get them from time to time, like 3 a year and they only started about 5 years ago. freaked me out the first couple of times but now i just sit back and enjoy them (i get no other symptoms, just the vision thing and a slight disassociated feeling)

koogs, Friday, 26 April 2019 08:38 (five years ago) link

I had one of those once, and even tho there wasn’t much pain, it scarred the shit out of me.

Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 26 April 2019 13:07 (five years ago) link

one month passes...

co-workers asking you to sponsor them for their half marathon/3k park run gets annoying when done repeatedly.

FernandoHierro, Thursday, 30 May 2019 13:08 (four years ago) link

is a 3k worth sponsoring?

koogs, Thursday, 30 May 2019 13:11 (four years ago) link

yeah i was messing i guess, i've seen a coworker ask for sponsorship for a 5k and it raises an eyebrow but i suppose the money all goes to the same type of commercialised charity.

FernandoHierro, Thursday, 30 May 2019 13:12 (four years ago) link

just had a conversation with a co worker in which we mused over which of the four ppl in our office that are through for promotion are going to make the worst boss and its been a real downer if im honest trevor

daenerys baker (darraghmac), Thursday, 30 May 2019 14:25 (four years ago) link

do you reckon you'll get the job all the same?

FernandoHierro, Thursday, 30 May 2019 15:16 (four years ago) link

Number None, Thursday, 30 May 2019 17:41 (four years ago) link

nah got an email since to that effect tbh

daenerys baker (darraghmac), Thursday, 30 May 2019 20:06 (four years ago) link

co-workers asking you to sponsor them for their half marathon/3k park run gets annoying when done repeatedly.

Extremely otm

gyac, Thursday, 30 May 2019 20:09 (four years ago) link

Yes, why don't you eat your lunch standing up in our tiny kitchen, blocking access to the fridge and the microwave and the taps and the counters

There’s a strict rule not to take days off during holidays/extended weekends. What does colleague do? Still plans time off anyway. (Previous manager was unable to say no and didn’t much care as she was planning to quit. New manager didn’t know of this rule.) As I have been dumped w the late shifts the last two weeks, I’m...well pissed off even more. I told my manager that my colleague just goes ahead and plans during times when it’s not allowed. I feel kind of a backstabber. :-(

nathom, Friday, 31 May 2019 05:25 (four years ago) link

Yes, why don't you eat your lunch standing up in our tiny kitchen, blocking access to the fridge and the microwave and the taps and the counters

this kind of behaviour! we moved office about a year ago and for a while it was clean and quiet and easy to work in. I don't know if it's a critical mass of numbers that leads to a rise in this kind of behaviour, or whether it's the fact the big influx seems to all be civil servants, or a combo of the two, but almost invariably in the kitchen now someone will be leaning with their back to the one water tap, staring at their phone, or talking to someone having left their beaker standing in the way of the tap, or microwaving some fucking vomit smelling cheese-based lunch. prob worth buying water just to avoid having to acknowledge the existence of these people

FernandoHierro, Friday, 31 May 2019 06:16 (four years ago) link

this is the law of office kitchens

- conversations must be held standing in the doorway or in front of the sink/microwaves. on no account should you stand somewhere that isn't in the way of something
- never clean anything, ever
- never empty out your soggy cereal leftovers before dumping the bowl in the sink
- hold meetings in there and glare at anyone who dares enter to use the kitchen for actual kitchen purposes

Colonel Poo, Friday, 31 May 2019 09:32 (four years ago) link

while I'm here

why not Slack me to ask me how to do something, when literally the last conversation we had on Slack was me telling you how to do it. you fucking imbecile. I just replied "scroll up a bit"

Colonel Poo, Friday, 31 May 2019 09:33 (four years ago) link

Haha, all of those rules apply for my office. I'd prob bring my lunch if the entire kitchen area wasn't so fucking gross.

FernandoHierro, Friday, 31 May 2019 09:47 (four years ago) link

sink and sponge/cloth covered in coffee grounds at 8.01am every single day

kinder, Friday, 31 May 2019 11:18 (four years ago) link

sink and sponge/cloth covered in coffee grounds at 8.01am every single day

argh OTM
also every interior surface of the freezer

there's one particular large team here which seems to have split into 3 factions and at any given time one of those factions will be hanging out in the kitchen, standing in front of the fridge and the sink for an extended chat

oh, and the inside ceiling of the microwave is covered in mysterious rust blisters, which makes me paranoid that it might not actually be ~safe~, but the facilities guy was like "eh it's fine" in that "it's just you being weird" kind of way, so... it probably is just me being weird tbh

a passing spacecadet, Friday, 31 May 2019 11:34 (four years ago) link

guess we're lucky to have a fridge with a freezer compartment and a microwave, my last place had neither

a passing spacecadet, Friday, 31 May 2019 11:35 (four years ago) link

we have a fancy coffee machine now, it's like an automated barista machine, but the trouble is nobody cleans it. it has a milk compartment in the bottom, it is refrigerated, but the milk is sucked up through a rubber tube from this and basically the very bottom of the milk never gets used, so if it isn't cleaned out regularly, you get cottage cheese in the bottom after a few days.

similar things happen to the coffee grounds container. if you don't actually clean it out, grounds harden in the bottom and turn into mould. I only noticed because I got the message to empty it one day and pulled it out and it was just a massive green lump.

I've pointed both of these things out to the office manager but she doesn't give a shit, she doesn't drink coffee and doesn't seem to think it's anything she should be concerned about. I only work in the office twice a week but seem to have become designated coffee machine cleaner, maybe because everyone else doesn't mind drinking cottage-cheese-spore-coffee blend

Colonel Poo, Friday, 31 May 2019 12:17 (four years ago) link

cottage-cheese-spore-coffee blend

yum

a passing spacecadet, Friday, 31 May 2019 12:19 (four years ago) link

we have a misspelled sign telling people not to dump "COFFEE GRINDS/GOUNDS" into the sink. The kitchen area shares a wall with the sinks in the bordering men's restroom, and excessive dumping somehow clogged the pipes earlier this year, causing the sinks to back up

mh, Friday, 31 May 2019 14:14 (four years ago) link

i low key blame my roommate for clogging our kitchen sink with coffee grounds a few months ago. it was TERRIBLE

american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 31 May 2019 14:16 (four years ago) link

the mystery is that the sink they were dumped in does have a garbage disposal

not running a ton of water after the grounds seems to cause them to solidify in the pipes, though

mh, Friday, 31 May 2019 14:19 (four years ago) link

my job requires regular live photographs, so for about 15 years now we have had a network of freelancers who upload pix to a flickr pro account. flickr has of course gone through a lot of changes in that time, including being owned by and having various levels of integration with yahoo

somehow, one of the photographers got his personal yahoo email account linked to our flickr account, such that anyone with the proper flickr credentials could access it

so this week a colleague stumbled across 15 years of this photographer's emails trying to find men and women to have sex with, featuring very very detailed and explicit photos, requests, prices, directions, hourly hotels, etc.

we got it de-linked and as far as we know he remains unaware -- although i'm not sure he'd really care

mookieproof, Friday, 31 May 2019 18:58 (four years ago) link

that is amazing.

Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 31 May 2019 20:18 (four years ago) link

whom amongst us, etc etc

mh, Friday, 31 May 2019 21:40 (four years ago) link

guess we're lucky to have a fridge with a freezer compartment and a microwave, my last place had neither


We have none. Not even a fridge. We did get a regular coffee machine this month. Lol

nathom, Friday, 31 May 2019 21:52 (four years ago) link

I don't know whether it's some kind of anomaly that I'm only now, in a professional setting, decades after working unskilled jobs in like food service and factories and what have you, encountering the most profoundly stupid people I've ever had the displeasure of working alongside or if people in general are just getting stupider and the workplace just happens to be where I've become most acutely aware of this phenomenon.

I was, admittedly, being a little bitchy the other day when I mentioned to someone that I have to explain things to (that one guy) like he's a dog but...well, it's mostly only untrue inasmuch as a dog might eventually understand what you're telling him.

Howlin' Oates - 'Wang Can't Dang for That (No Can Doodle)' (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 13:21 (four years ago) link

We have expectations that if people can obtain a job in a corporate setting that they aren't disgusting and selfish monsters. But it seems a lot of people still need their mothers to come and manage them.

Yerac, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 13:26 (four years ago) link

i think maybe it's that incompetence is easier to spot in jobs like food service and factories, where there are specific outcomes expected and it's obvious when they're not happening, but once you move to the world of office work it's often easier to obscure those things? that's my experience anyway - i feel like i worked under more pressure, more regularly, in catering than i do now in a better-paid job where success is a bit fuzzier and harder to define

can’t stop thinking about amy adams as crash bandicoot (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 13:26 (four years ago) link

I had to work out of the l3hman br0s offices for awhile and they had some of the weirdest, shittiest, forgotten milk kitchens that I had ever seen. I was like, no wonder you guys failed.

Yerac, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 13:30 (four years ago) link

xpost Yeah, that makes sense. There definitely isn't much scrutiny or oversight around these parts.

I should note that the person I'm talking about is senior to me (although in no way my superior) and makes at least 2-3 times what I make and doesn't understand, for example, the vagaries of email correspondence (eg, do not respond to an automated response that clearly says 'do not respond' and definitely don't do this multiple times a week for years and years and years).

Howlin' Oates - 'Wang Can't Dang for That (No Can Doodle)' (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 13:34 (four years ago) link

The last office I worked had a free seltzer/soda vending machine. They eventually started charging .25 cents per can because the ceo/pres saw an employee taking home a tote bag full of sodas. And supposedly volume of sodas went down 60%.

Yerac, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 13:34 (four years ago) link

i've seldom worked anywhere where the hiring process was good, except maybe bbc where they scored people and the highest score got the job.

ime hiring is actually more reliable now all my colleagues are contractors and people often join based on recommendations from within in the team. that ime works better than sifting cvs.

in my last permanent role, i liked and respected my boss but he hired really badly, and based on some of the team i managed he seemingly had a history of doing so. now that i occasionally sit in on interviews, my impression is that most managers are too shy/socially awkward to ask people challenging questions. it's not that i think someone should be intimidated or made to feel uncomfortable, more that the good candidate doesn't get a chance to stand out if all the questions are just platitudes or have the answer in them.

tho obv 'can you clean up after yourself' should be taken for granted.

xpost some of that basic 'how to behave efficiently and logically' shit needs to be taught. not replying all or derailing meetings etc.

FernandoHierro, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 13:38 (four years ago) link

That's like this very senior person was hired into my last firm and he only lasted two months before he was fired. Part of the reason was that he pissed everyone off because he had somehow never used outlook email before and didn't realize you view peoples' calendars yourself. He was completely frustrating when he tried to schedule his own meetings. Plus he put Esq. after everything and was condescending to the women so we nipped that shit fast.

Yerac, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 13:44 (four years ago) link

A dude was hired at my last place of work and kept pulling one of my coworkers to train him on something in Excel (which I was only aware of because he sat across from me). Which y'know, nbd, new dude having people walk him through the particulars of his new job, understandable. A number of months later while talking to a frustrated manager, I put two and two and two together and realized that the reason this dude in particular had been hired was a professed proficiency with v-lookups...which it turned out he had completely lied about, failing to realize until too late that that isn't a facility you can fake your way through. Naturally, he was still working there as of when I quit several years later.

Howlin' Oates - 'Wang Can't Dang for That (No Can Doodle)' (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 13:56 (four years ago) link

Crazy to get in like that and not learn how to vlookup in an evening or two

maffew12, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 13:57 (four years ago) link

I mean I've done a ton of them but it's been a while and they aren't the most intuitive thing in the world (for me, anyway) and if someone asked me to do them again I'd be like, you're gonna need to give me a day or two to refresh myself before I take that on there chief. Dude's chutzpah severely outpaced him there, I feel.

Howlin' Oates - 'Wang Can't Dang for That (No Can Doodle)' (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 14:03 (four years ago) link

I'm kind of an asshole but I would've just sent him a screenshot of google with "how to do a v-lookup" in the search box.

Yerac, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 14:09 (four years ago) link

my favoured solution for that type of assholery is http://bfy.tw/DSmc

can’t stop thinking about amy adams as crash bandicoot (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 14:12 (four years ago) link

ha!

Yerac, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 14:21 (four years ago) link

Okay, that's definitely preferable to stewing in frustration until my jugular ruptures.

Howlin' Oates - 'Wang Can't Dang for That (No Can Doodle)' (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 14:24 (four years ago) link

tbh I'm not that good at hiring and unfortunately neither have my previous managers been, this job is the first one I've had to be involved with hiring, and our track record has been hit and miss. The last 2 people I was more involved with hiring and have turned out to be mostly OK, the guy we hired before that I don't really know how he managed to blag through the interview, we had 2 candidates shortlisted, and they both did basically the same on technical questions, although I thought the other guy had the edge, but the one we hired had an outgoing personality so the non-technical director liked him better. He turned out to be pretty junior level and needs a lot of help, still after being here 18 months he infuriates me with his basic incompetence on a regular basis. I insisted we put a code test back in after him because we used to do that and they dropped it for that position for some reason.

I have also been v tempted to send him lmgtfy links

Colonel Poo, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 14:29 (four years ago) link

i'm tempted to send lmgtfy links pretty much on a daily basis

can’t stop thinking about amy adams as crash bandicoot (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 14:33 (four years ago) link

I get distressed by people who can't figure out stuff on their own when there is the internet and instead waste other peoples' time. Hiring anyone is pretty hit or miss, I've wanted to sneakily even give people writing tests in interviews just to obtain coherency and professionalism levels.

Yerac, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 14:38 (four years ago) link

That's not a bad idea. We received some phishing alert recently which warned, among other things, against opening attachments in emails containing misspellings and poor grammar. Which I took as tacit permission to delete 90% of the work emails I receive in a day. Really lightened my load!

Howlin' Oates - 'Wang Can't Dang for That (No Can Doodle)' (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 14:41 (four years ago) link

We used to have so many poorly constructed and tonally semi-offensive emails sent out that I had to write template emails for my team to use because they couldn't be trusted. I am so happy not to work in an office right now.

Yerac, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 14:47 (four years ago) link

the reason this dude in particular had been hired was a professed proficiency with v-lookups

please tell me more about this job because I think this might be my only skill

(I mean, I'm kidding, but I'm also kind of not kidding, so I am curious what jobs would have this high up their hiring criteria - though maybe it is a financial job in which case, nope, better not)

a passing spacecadet, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 14:55 (four years ago) link

Plus he put Esq. after everything

reminds me of a coworker who was relatively competent but insisted on being overbearing and explaining exactly how software should be developed, not just explaining requirements, to the actual developers

he had several accreditations and degrees in his field, which was definitely not software. perpetually incapable of staying in his lane. only person i've worked with who had "PhD in blah, Certified blah" in his email signature

he formerly taught at a university and I can only imagine what it was like to be a student. or maybe i know, because he sat in my cube instructing me multiple times

mh, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 14:57 (four years ago) link

Okay so the example that spurred my revive: there was this situation that was nuanced and might have been handled in a variety of ways which I would've discussed with others in (that one guy)'s position before making a decision about how to proceed but, because I knew I would get effing nowhere with that approach, I made an executive decision and just told him to let this party outside of the company know that we couldn't do the thing they were requesting of us. Any of the others in his position would have known that my email was intended for his eyes only and would have tailored a response for this outside party, but he opted to just forward my email to them (thankfully I omitted any sensitive information). When he finally gets a response from the outside party, he didn't manage to forward their response to me (which I predicted, because he's a fuckup) but rather to the person who initially alerted me to and had no hand in resolving the issue in question (a person whose opinion of (that one guy) was once benign and uncolored by regular interaction with him but who, in conversation about this matter, referred to him unguardedly as 'that asshole').

Howlin' Oates - 'Wang Can't Dang for That (No Can Doodle)' (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 15:03 (four years ago) link

a passing spacecadet - lots of jobs involved with operations and feeds and distribution and things like that rely on someone to do the vlookups and reconcile everything

ogmor, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 15:05 (four years ago) link

a passing spacecadet: yes, it was in the finance department of the company in question, but I also worked in that department and am as dumb as the dumbest of posts wrt matters of finance. I think one continual lesson of this thread is 'never sell yourself short'.

Howlin' Oates - 'Wang Can't Dang for That (No Can Doodle)' (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 15:06 (four years ago) link

the peter principle is real, folks

can’t stop thinking about amy adams as crash bandicoot (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 15:07 (four years ago) link

It's kind of weird how much vlookups are needed but I consider it basic excel. If that was a prime qualification of a job I would want someone to at least be intermediate to advanced excel so they can at least deal with spreadsheets coming from multiple sources.

Yerac, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 15:09 (four years ago) link

(By way of contrast, I was temp-to-hire at my current job and was asked about a month in if I knew how to do v-lookups and said I'd done them a couple times before and would figure it out and I did and I did them regularly and remained a temp for another eleven months.)

Howlin' Oates - 'Wang Can't Dang for That (No Can Doodle)' (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 15:14 (four years ago) link

I think a great deal of professional success is predicated upon bullshitting and gladhanding and I'm an epic failure at both of those things so my facility wrt any other skillset is ultimately kinda beside the point.

Howlin' Oates - 'Wang Can't Dang for That (No Can Doodle)' (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 15:20 (four years ago) link

thanks all btw!

I guess I do something kind of related to "operations and feeds and distribution" (my job title contained 1 of those words and a near-synonym of another until we all got re-titled to something generic) but the nice thing about my particular job is that it's not a major problem, or at least generally not my fault, if not everything reconciles at the end

the thought of being relied on to make everything add up monetarily or process-wise is a little daunting, which is half of why I said "not finance", along with, well, not knowing anything about finance/accounting

basically I want a job where they pay me not to be accountable for anything meaningful at all, which I admit is not a very lucrative line of work for yr average joe or spacecadet

a passing spacecadet, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 15:21 (four years ago) link

Don't let it being in finance stop you. Most places' IT and operations are a total mess and are in a neverending backlog of reconciliation anyway.

Yerac, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 15:28 (four years ago) link

if someone in IT insists that a system will be perfect and never need reconciliation, they are a horrible liar

mh, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 15:33 (four years ago) link

Okay, okay. This very minute, (that one guy) forwarded an email to just me but wrote a response in the email intended for the sender (and ftr, I guarantee he doesn't understand how bcc works, so that isn't what's happening here). I could honestly pop in here many times on any given day to just bitch about this dude.

Howlin' Oates - 'Wang Can't Dang for That (No Can Doodle)' (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 15:35 (four years ago) link

my newest boss couldn’t figure out how to copy paste an element within a powerpoint. we use powerpoint day in day out for briefings etc. lord give me strength

||||||||, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 15:44 (four years ago) link

i had to tell someone what a link was once.

FernandoHierro, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 15:56 (four years ago) link

they were working on selling ads for a website.

FernandoHierro, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 15:56 (four years ago) link

like a cyberlink?

maffew12, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 16:02 (four years ago) link

I lost my rag in a meeting with aforementioned coworker yesterday after he was failing to answer what I thought was a fairly simple question and exasperatedly asked him "do you know what HTML is?" then I realised I wasn't helping matters so I calmed down a bit. but seriously I don't know what to do with him sometimes

Colonel Poo, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 16:03 (four years ago) link

I know I have mentioned this before but I had to teach T3ddy Roosevelt IV how to doubleclick. I guess his assistant usually handled his mouse.

Yerac, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 16:09 (four years ago) link

I feel like my general expectation of coworkers (possess a basic understanding of your responsibilities and the tools you need to do your job and then just actually, like, do your job) is such a ridiculously low bar that most people would be likely to clear it almost by accident. And yet. And yet.

Howlin' Oates - 'Wang Can't Dang for That (No Can Doodle)' (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 16:15 (four years ago) link

lol Yerac

mh, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 16:19 (four years ago) link

xp I'm in the same boat - I don't expect people to be able to do everything, I'm happy to pick up all the complicated things, but to have to do all the complicated things *and* help idiots do ridiculously basic tasks all the fucking time as well is just too much sometimes

I suggested to management I sit with him and do pair programming or give him training courses to work through but they shot it down saying it would take up too much time, never mind that my time is constantly wasted and interrupted, but unfortunately complete inability to do your job is also a problem with management at this godforsaken company of morons

Colonel Poo, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 16:22 (four years ago) link

I feel like my general expectation of coworkers (possess a basic understanding of your responsibilities and the tools you need to do your job and then just actually, like, do your job) is such a ridiculously low bar that most people would be likely to clear it almost by accident. And yet. And yet.
Yeah this. add in 'managing personalities' and my disillusionment is complete.

kinder, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 16:36 (four years ago) link

unbelievably, all of the programmers I work with (10 ppl) are competent engineers and communicators. Everybody just ... does their work. Bumps in the road are handled in level-headed and efficient meetings. I really lucked out, I am so grateful to work with these people. now clients, on the other hand...

boobie, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 17:14 (four years ago) link

I like dealing with just programmers. I hate managing or clients or the general employee population so I once had a job create me a role where I just dealt with programmers. It was awesome.

Yerac, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 17:39 (four years ago) link

it would take up too much time

more than nearly any other factor, I'm incredibly grateful whenever I'm working with people that understand investing a reasonable amount of time in something now will result in fewer headaches... from now until infinity

mh, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 19:18 (four years ago) link

Y'all extolling the virtues of programmers clearly don't work for my company. Just reminded today that some supergenius has recently set up an autoreplace in the primary piece of (proprietary, and it shows) software we use such that every typed apostrophe is swapped out with a grave accent, thus rendering our already unwieldy and damn near inoperable search function even moreso (ie every search for let's say 'Joe's Diner' turns up zero results even if there were a hundred instances of 'Joe's Diner' entered into our database).

Howlin' Oates - 'Wang Can't Dang for That (No Can Doodle)' (Old Lunch), Thursday, 6 June 2019 19:11 (four years ago) link

Oh, they jack up stuff all the time but they are easier to deal with on a day to day basis. Maybe because all the programmers I have ever had to deal with were in the UK or Budapest.

Yerac, Thursday, 6 June 2019 19:16 (four years ago) link

Yeah, generally and in other workplaces I agree with that more sanguine assessment. The magnitude of the jacking up here (see f'rinstance: hours-long mid-day outages on a regular basis, wherein hundreds of people are left twiddling their collective thumbs while collecting a paycheck) would be a fireable offense pretty much anywhere else I'd worked.

Howlin' Oates - 'Wang Can't Dang for That (No Can Doodle)' (Old Lunch), Thursday, 6 June 2019 19:26 (four years ago) link

I worked in a company of thousands that wouldn't be able to execute trades because of some issue. No one would be fired.

Yerac, Thursday, 6 June 2019 19:30 (four years ago) link

The bar is always a lot lower than you would think.

Yerac, Thursday, 6 June 2019 19:30 (four years ago) link

I have a coworker who started here within the past year after previously working on software for high frequency trading. There are some stories, although most of them involve clients who insisted they wanted software that did specific things, despite being told they were bad ideas. I think at least one of these ideas got trading suspended in a major exchange until the program was turned off.

high frequency trading markets are a bad idea

mh, Friday, 7 June 2019 18:22 (four years ago) link

>at least one of these ideas got trading suspended in a major exchange until the program was turned off.

i know nothing about the world of finance and markets etc – but i feel like this would be a huge deal.

Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 7 June 2019 19:55 (four years ago) link

you would be surprised!
https://www.sec.gov/litigation/suspensions.shtml

mh, Friday, 7 June 2019 20:06 (four years ago) link

wait, I take that back -- it was likely a trading halt, which is different and even more common

mh, Friday, 7 June 2019 20:06 (four years ago) link

My colleague was reprimanded by HR for ignoring the rules: she always takes days off on weekends (busiest days). Lol. I laugh but it results in more work for me. Grrrr.

nathom, Sunday, 9 June 2019 19:07 (four years ago) link

coffee in one hand, suddenly remember that you need your pass to get through the security gates and start scrabbling for it in your pocket with your free hand. maybe don't do this whilst INSIDE the revolving doors.

koogs, Tuesday, 11 June 2019 08:47 (four years ago) link

an incident has erupted after someone wrote a page on the work wiki which says at the top "THIS IS A DRAFT - PLEASE ADD COMMENTS, CORRECTIONS, ETC." and someone edited it

oh no, now page editor #2 has left the room and everyone else is being asked for opinions i.e. to take sides

a passing spacecadet, Tuesday, 11 June 2019 11:27 (four years ago) link

you did the right thing in going online

maffew12, Tuesday, 11 June 2019 11:41 (four years ago) link

I was just enjoying the swing from "please edit this page" to "how dare anyone edit this page"

a distraction has been found in the form of something else to get wound up about, fortunately (?)

a passing spacecadet, Tuesday, 11 June 2019 12:06 (four years ago) link

what to get for lunch?

maffew12, Tuesday, 11 June 2019 12:09 (four years ago) link

A new contender emerges.

Taking a full mug of tea/coffee/hot beverage into the toilet cubicle with you to drink during your morning dump.

(These are the worst office toilets I've ever come across mind, one day the whole room was painted in watery hangover vomit and another the toilet seat was covered in what I can only assume was the remains of someone shaving their pubic hair off. Last week someone did the world's longest toothbrushing, all the time standing over a urinal.)

Elitist cheese photos (aldo), Thursday, 20 June 2019 07:03 (four years ago) link

oh no

godfellaz (darraghmac), Thursday, 20 June 2019 08:26 (four years ago) link

Oh yes. They were a slurper.

Elitist cheese photos (aldo), Thursday, 20 June 2019 10:23 (four years ago) link

deeply upsetting post

RUSSIA’S SEXIEST POKER STAR ELECTROCUTED BY HAIRDRYER (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 20 June 2019 10:25 (four years ago) link

They also did the "... ah!" after every slurp.

Elitist cheese photos (aldo), Thursday, 20 June 2019 10:32 (four years ago) link

please stop

RUSSIA’S SEXIEST POKER STAR ELECTROCUTED BY HAIRDRYER (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 20 June 2019 10:33 (four years ago) link

That's what I was thinking at the time.

Elitist cheese photos (aldo), Thursday, 20 June 2019 10:43 (four years ago) link

A puddle of urine slowly accumulates on the floor in front of the urinals in my office. Every. Single. Day.

Workplace restrooms are perhaps the strongest refutation of mankind as a civilized species.

Morrie Antoilette (Old Lunch), Thursday, 20 June 2019 11:55 (four years ago) link

[reels from thread with eyes streaming, staggers blindly away, careening from the walls]

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Thursday, 20 June 2019 12:24 (four years ago) link

Maybe they are still under the impression that urine helps in case of jellyfish stings.

Yerac, Thursday, 20 June 2019 13:28 (four years ago) link

Oh yes. They were a slurper.

i was relieved this was in reference to the coffee drinker.

Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 20 June 2019 20:36 (four years ago) link

i hope to god that was in reference to the coffee drinker.

Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 20 June 2019 20:36 (four years ago) link

Morrie Antoilette (Old Lunch) at 7:55 20 Jun 19


Workplace restrooms are perhaps the strongest refutation of mankind as a civilized species.
I'm pretty upset about the number of people I've see blaze right past me out of a stall and straight out the door, bypassing the sink entirely. Intelligent people. Effective people. People with salaries that double mine. Straight out of the shitter and back to work, rubbing their hands on every door handle as they go. Maybe I'm the one who's doing it wrong!

☮ (peace, man), Thursday, 20 June 2019 20:48 (four years ago) link

there's one dude in my work who does that. does make more than me, also from money

findom haddie (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 20 June 2019 20:49 (four years ago) link

it's an alpha move, guys

Number None, Thursday, 20 June 2019 21:34 (four years ago) link

i do wash my hands but i balance it out by wiping my ass on the door handles

RUSSIA’S SEXIEST POKER STAR ELECTROCUTED BY HAIRDRYER (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 20 June 2019 21:37 (four years ago) link

well you must be
an acrobat
to talk like this
and act like that

mookieproof, Thursday, 20 June 2019 22:50 (four years ago) link

Is this a guy thing? Ive rarely seen ladies toilets in the disgusting savage state you guys describe here, but even at my work, twice emails have had to go out chiding the males in the office because of the state of the toilets (someone did the puke-painting here, too, apparently. Prob after a heavy work drinks session).

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Thursday, 20 June 2019 23:29 (four years ago) link

Is this a guy thing?

it is maybe THE guy thing of guy things. Nearly all public men’s restrooms are covered with piss, it’s fucking insane.

i will never make a typo ever again (Karl Malone), Thursday, 20 June 2019 23:44 (four years ago) link

In 2016 I was about a week into a new job with approx 3/20 male/female ratio in that department, when they had to call an all-female conference for the floor to explain to staff that the daily state of the ladies' loos was a health hazard

quelle sprocket damage (sic), Thursday, 20 June 2019 23:50 (four years ago) link

Nearly all public men’s restrooms are covered with piss, it’s fucking insane.

public bathrooms yes, though. on many occasions I have spent longer wiping down enough surfaces in a pub or nightclub cubicle to use it than I have spent using it

quelle sprocket damage (sic), Thursday, 20 June 2019 23:52 (four years ago) link

used to work at a place where the wall above the urinal was covered in a crust of picked boogers that was never cleaned up, all i assume from the same guy (i didn't test the evidence). i never talked to anyone about it because i had no idea who it could have been. there were a lot of prime suspects.

omar little, Friday, 21 June 2019 00:00 (four years ago) link

having worked for years in a bookstore with a public bathroom i can assure you that both men and women are absolute fucking savages

piss splatter is a guy thing, yes, but smearing shit on the walls is surprisingly universal

mookieproof, Friday, 21 June 2019 02:29 (four years ago) link

pretty sure that whoever stashed turds behind books in the children's section was a guy tho

mookieproof, Friday, 21 June 2019 02:31 (four years ago) link

Oh boy, public restrooms! That's where I'm a diseased animal!

Morrie Antoilette (Old Lunch), Friday, 21 June 2019 02:39 (four years ago) link

Women's bathrooms can be worse because they tend to hover rather than sit down to pee, and that makes it as bad as the men's.

nickn, Friday, 21 June 2019 04:28 (four years ago) link

yes, but men tend to get distracted and walk around the room checking their email, peeing everywhere

i will never make a typo ever again (Karl Malone), Friday, 21 June 2019 04:45 (four years ago) link

And every men's toilets has a door that opens inwards, so you have to touch the filthy handle which every disgusting savage who hasn't washed their hands has already fondled. At least if there are paper towels you can use them for a prophylactic layer.

in at least half of my workplaces over the years weve had phantom floorshitters/wallsmearers and its has always been women, but in general the mens loos are in consistently worse state

in my new book about dating i

godfellaz (darraghmac), Friday, 21 June 2019 06:35 (four years ago) link

I cant say I have ever seen shit smeared on walls/floors what is wrong with people.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Friday, 21 June 2019 06:55 (four years ago) link

In a former workplace (the civil service no less) there would be a complaint about shit smearing in the ladies every other month, never the mens from memory.

Elitist cheese photos (aldo), Friday, 21 June 2019 07:47 (four years ago) link

used to work at a place where the wall above the urinal was covered in a crust of picked boogers that was never cleaned up

Had the same at my work. A snotter collection that gradually expanded for a couple of years before it got wiped.

Eyeball Kicks, Friday, 21 June 2019 09:23 (four years ago) link

Someone wrote below a similar collection in a cubicle at a previous employer: "To whoever picks their nose and wipes it on the toilet wall: You are an ANIMAL"

The Pingularity (ledge), Friday, 21 June 2019 09:41 (four years ago) link

the three-floor flood we had at one workplace was traced to someone blocking the plughole with tissues and leaving the taps running in the woman's bathroom. which seems a hard thing to do by accident.

we also had someone who blocked a bathroom sink with the remains of his noodle dinner. (it was one of those sinks with a plunger thing instead of an actual plug, how he managed to get all the noodles into the tiny gap is beyond me)

koogs, Friday, 21 June 2019 11:22 (four years ago) link

Probably not udon

Elitist cheese photos (aldo), Friday, 21 June 2019 11:43 (four years ago) link

udon know what people are capable of

ah ffs xp

godfellaz (darraghmac), Friday, 21 June 2019 11:43 (four years ago) link

I withdraw in favour of your pun

Elitist cheese photos (aldo), Friday, 21 June 2019 11:44 (four years ago) link

The people I work with are predominantly young and educated in an urban setting. A few weeks ago, during the workday, someone pooped on the floor in the women’s restroom. Not even in a stall. I tried to get Facilities to check security camera footage to examine comings and going from just before the person who reported it went in, but nobody was as interested in finding the culprit as I was. The mystery will never be solved, I have so many questions.

beard papa, Saturday, 22 June 2019 17:09 (four years ago) link

If you did find the culprit, would you have a heart-to-heart chat with them about floor shitting?

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Saturday, 22 June 2019 17:27 (four years ago) link

floor shitting is a key component of the annual performance review

mookieproof, Saturday, 22 June 2019 17:32 (four years ago) link

I know I have posted about the floor/toilet seat shitter who brought in cups of water and made the entire stall each time she used it. Everyone knew who it was. The cleaning woman knew who it was. We think she was doing a makeshift bidet in there. It was impossible to not know who it was since the bathroom only had 2 stalls in each one. I called HR about it. They approached her, she denied it. Nothing could be done about it because, you know, no one was in the stall with her to see it.

Yerac, Saturday, 22 June 2019 17:50 (four years ago) link

ugh "made the entire stall wet each time she used it".

Yerac, Saturday, 22 June 2019 17:50 (four years ago) link

multiple different managers at my work like to make calls on speakerphone in their offices with the door open. literally not one aspect of that is necessary.

bookmarkflaglink (jim in vancouver), Friday, 5 July 2019 20:26 (four years ago) link

including personal phone calls

bookmarkflaglink (jim in vancouver), Friday, 5 July 2019 20:26 (four years ago) link

Colleague left the door of the shop ajar. Wtf does that? Well, she did. Boss wanted to send a reprimand (by mail) but manager said to let it slide. (Here three complaints by mail and they can fire you on the spot. Also no dole money.)

Her excuse? I had things on my mind.

She’s really stacking up the mistakes. Drives everyone nuts.

nathom, Monday, 8 July 2019 00:53 (four years ago) link

this is pretty minor in the scheme of endless bullshit at my job, but still fucking irritating

Manager: hey are you busy, can I ask you a question?
Me: sure, what's up?

- 10 minutes elapse -

Manager: so I need you to check something on the CMS

- 10 minutes elapse -

WTF. can you just ask me the fucking question when you know what it is??

Colonel Poo, Wednesday, 10 July 2019 14:31 (four years ago) link

So when it's pretty common knowledge that Person A has been a major fuckup and thorn in everyone's side for years, and it finally gets to the point where Person A's actions are proving detrimental to the company, am I wrong in thinking that rerouting a sizable chunk of Person A's work to Person B without taking any further action against Person A is effectively a punitive action against Person B which just makes Person A's life a whole lot easier?

(I am neither of these people, btw, but it sucks to see shit like this happen.)

Logy Psycho (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 10 July 2019 14:48 (four years ago) link

this is basically what happens to me (as in I am Person B being given Person A's work because Person A is useless). Person A is going on a performance review in the next couple of weeks though so maybe some action will happen but I'm not getting my hopes up

it took 30 minutes for my manager to tell me what she thought was a problem with the CMS. it wasn't a problem with the CMS. there was a problem but it was a frontend issue.

Colonel Poo, Wednesday, 10 July 2019 16:03 (four years ago) link

And this is why I've slowly devolved from 'eager beaver go-getter' to 'surly grump who doesn't do anything that isn't explicitly in his job description'. Learned that lesson the hard way too many times.

Logy Psycho (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 10 July 2019 16:24 (four years ago) link

Every time I think the toilet habits in this place have reached their zenith, they find a way to exceed my expectations. Well done Wales.

Today I was invited to look at a shit a stranger had done because "it's a fucking cracker, innit". Speaking to someone else that I actually did know and had spoken to before, he's been protecting the cubicle for 40 minutes now to make sure as many people as possible see it.

I don't think he understood what Pride Week was about.

Elitist cheese photos (aldo), Thursday, 11 July 2019 09:05 (four years ago) link

wait, was this guy showing off a shit he'd done himself or a shit someone else left in the bowl that he was so struck with admiration for that he had to let others see it too?

dunno what's worse tbh, either way that is deeply fucking weird behaviour

A comical 'blobbumentary' programme (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 11 July 2019 10:51 (four years ago) link

this is what selfie sticks are for

mark s, Thursday, 11 July 2019 11:18 (four years ago) link

what, unclogging toilets?

A comical 'blobbumentary' programme (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 11 July 2019 11:20 (four years ago) link

no point carrying two sticks

mark s, Thursday, 11 July 2019 11:27 (four years ago) link

Was it a fucking cracker tho?

Uptown VONC (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 11 July 2019 11:35 (four years ago) link

I've ever been subject to one justifiable instance of this behavior (pulled into my restaurant's ladies room to view a log the size of Margaret Lanterman's, which I was forced to acknowledge as a cracker, specifically of porcelain).

Logy Psycho (Old Lunch), Thursday, 11 July 2019 11:48 (four years ago) link

am i a prude for thinking it's not appropriate under any circumstances - other than those strictly medical or, where mutual consent exists, sexual - for bowel movements to be treated as show-and-tell objects? wtf people

A comical 'blobbumentary' programme (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 11 July 2019 11:52 (four years ago) link

I was going to agree with you but, given what I encountered that one time I conceded, I'm suddenly left wondering how many dazzling spectacles of poo prowess I've denied myself through the years.

Logy Psycho (Old Lunch), Thursday, 11 July 2019 12:12 (four years ago) link

I assumed it was his but I suppose it could have been somebody else's. You don't know , man. You're not in Wales.

I once showed one of mine to my wife, in a hotel room, because it was like a fucking draught excluder.

Elitist cheese photos (aldo), Thursday, 11 July 2019 12:23 (four years ago) link

I am very entertained that you could only show your wife your poo in a hotel room. Holiday poo.

Yerac, Thursday, 11 July 2019 12:27 (four years ago) link

or rather that there was a need to specify.

Yerac, Thursday, 11 July 2019 12:27 (four years ago) link

I'm suddenly left wondering how many dazzling spectacles of poo prowess I've denied myself through the years

again, maybe i'm the one standing outside the norms of society here, but i'm entirely comfortable with not knowing anything about the size, frequency, consistency or flavour of the bowel movements of anyone else, no matter how outlandish their qualities

A comical 'blobbumentary' programme (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 11 July 2019 13:04 (four years ago) link

Sounds like you'd be put off by the prospect of friendship with Martin Luther.

pomenitul, Thursday, 11 July 2019 13:08 (four years ago) link

just spent WAY too long scrolling down a recent twitter account to find the name of a book that had a chapter on environmental health in royal palaces (the book is a history of royal poisonings and it turns out the thread doesn't actually name it)

anyway when it comes to "bitch abt yr stupid co-courtiers as late as the 18th century", pissing and pooing just anyway and everywhere was the pan-european standard

Catherine de Braganza wrote home from Versailles about how she could barely walk into a room without seeing some guy’s prick

— shibari weiss (@AliceAvizandum) January 5, 2019

mark s, Thursday, 11 July 2019 13:10 (four years ago) link

I am very reminded of that scene in The Last Emperor where they discuss/smell the kid emperor's poo.

Yerac, Thursday, 11 July 2019 13:11 (four years ago) link

bg, no one is going to judge you harshly for refusing to fully experience the richness and texture of life. Pity? Sure. But no judgment.

Logy Psycho (Old Lunch), Thursday, 11 July 2019 13:12 (four years ago) link

*shits*

some top content on this in the latest LRB:

In the first decade of the 17th century, the English traveller Fynes Moryson noted with wonder that, in the presence chamber at Dublin Castle, ‘the wives of great men … make water as they stood talking with men … and … do openly the most secret necessities of the body.’ The transition to bodily inhibition took place quite slowly, however: Anthony Wood complained that when Charles II’s courtiers left Oxford, they also left ‘their excrements in every corner, in chimneys, studies, coal-houses, cellars’.

ogmor, Thursday, 11 July 2019 13:21 (four years ago) link

perhaps if you can sense that an impending turd is going to be truly remarkable you could curl it where people will stumble across it and marvel. *stomach rumbles auspiciously* "this'll be one for the fireplace"

ogmor, Thursday, 11 July 2019 13:23 (four years ago) link

oh man feels like i've got a real chimney-buster brewing, fire up facebook live and let's get the show started

i hate this thread and what it's done to me btw

Look, when you enter a discussion on annoying coworkers, you know what you're in for.

Logy Psycho (Old Lunch), Thursday, 11 July 2019 13:32 (four years ago) link

presents chamber more like

kinder, Thursday, 11 July 2019 14:25 (four years ago) link

While we smallmindedly write off our coworkers as disgusting animals unfit for cohabitation with other humans, those very coworkers are in fact sustaining age-old cultural traditions of pooping just wherever you feel like. Boy, do I ever feel like a grade-a boob.

Logy Psycho (Old Lunch), Thursday, 11 July 2019 14:42 (four years ago) link

the noblest traditions, versailles is not to be sniffed at

mark s, Thursday, 11 July 2019 14:47 (four years ago) link

the pissing and shitting habits of several centuries ago were completely fucked up

one of the reason the noble class would rotate through their palatial homes was because they'd just do their business in the corner or on the stairs and they'd have to leave for a couple weeks while some unfortunate servants would wash the place down. the smell was about what you'd expect

untuned mass damper (mh), Thursday, 11 July 2019 15:24 (four years ago) link

Back to annoying coworker anecdotes: I will never understand why it's preferable to compose an email asking someone else to search for something on your behalf rather than to just enter a simple search term into a field and click the 'Search' button.

Logy Psycho (Old Lunch), Thursday, 11 July 2019 15:26 (four years ago) link

xp - citation needed

Manfred Hemming-Hawing (WmC), Thursday, 11 July 2019 15:33 (four years ago) link

xxxxp - "in the hotel room" important because it's not like I had to go and find her to show her or for her to go more than 10ft

Elitist cheese photos (aldo), Thursday, 11 July 2019 15:34 (four years ago) link

I should probably shut up about this

Elitist cheese photos (aldo), Thursday, 11 July 2019 15:34 (four years ago) link

I was imagining that it was so impressive you had booked a hotel room & transported the mighty item there for best presentation

quelle sprocket damage (sic), Thursday, 11 July 2019 18:31 (four years ago) link

That sounds like something Mr Welshman this morning would have done to preserve it.

Elitist cheese photos (aldo), Thursday, 11 July 2019 19:40 (four years ago) link

I would've thought that the "coworker clipping their nails thing in the office" bit had been around long enough for everyone to know not to do this but APPARENTLY NOT

president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 16:07 (four years ago) link

Ex-office mate routinely went to town on his ear canal with a Q-Tip. The 'not okay but imma do it anyway' jewel is comprised of innumerable facets.

my but is not working it kept telling me device not found. (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 16:11 (four years ago) link

I have decided my coworkers deserve it, so I clip my nails at my desk now

the one coworker within earshot who has an opinion I value said it's cool, so

untuned mass damper (mh), Thursday, 25 July 2019 14:16 (four years ago) link

2 people in a class of 22 seem to think this class is just for them and interrupt every 2 minutes with obscure, non-sequitur questions.

No amount of trying to direct them on topic, asking them to take it to a side discussion with us has ever done much more than temporarily dissuade them, and discussing an interruption is in itself an interruption.

Want to learn to bicycle kick before they know what a soccer ball is.

Fuck Trump, cops, and the CBP (Neanderthal), Friday, 26 July 2019 14:12 (four years ago) link

That reminds me of our team meetings, which are uniformly pointless and painful affairs for 95% of the team, but there's always that 5% who sit back and wait until people are half out of their seats at the meeting's putative end to ask a series of questions which a) pertain to them specifically but rarely to anyone else in the group and b) could have easily been asked and answered in an email rather than in the midst of a group of people who want to strangle them.

my but is not working it kept telling me device not found. (Old Lunch), Friday, 26 July 2019 14:20 (four years ago) link

are they waiting until the end when people are leaving because it's like an optional query that not-interested people can carry on leaving during, or just because they're annoying and strangleable?

I mean, maybe they think they're doing that, but it doesn't work unless everyone knows that's the format and it's definitely OK to leave, which sounds like is not the case, so still annoying

a passing spacecadet, Friday, 26 July 2019 14:30 (four years ago) link

oh god, I was in a training session that was like that earlier this year

eventually there was partial success with changing the policy from "questions at any time" to "we're running behind, we'll catch up with questions when we take a break" which only partially worked because after lunch the questions resumed

untuned mass damper (mh), Friday, 26 July 2019 14:42 (four years ago) link

Ex-office mate routinely went to town on his ear canal with a Q-Tip. The 'not okay but imma do it anyway' jewel is comprised of innumerable facets.

may he one day find his own ear drum dangling from a strand of cotton.

beard papa, Friday, 26 July 2019 17:05 (four years ago) link

Me: Please set up this thing you should have already set up so I can do my job.
Douchenozzle: That should already be set up.
Me: ..........................YES, I KNOW IT SHOULD, WHY THE FUCK ELSE DO YOU THINK I'M REQUESTING IT OF YOU, DOUCHENOZZLE?

Liberals are insane in the mimbrain!!! (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 6 August 2019 13:16 (four years ago) link

I am not a screamer and particularly not a screamer in the faces of others but this job is prompting me to rethink things.

Liberals are insane in the mimbrain!!! (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 6 August 2019 13:20 (four years ago) link

Workmate: I might not be in tomorrow
Me: how come?
Workmate: Migraine.

While sitting there looking perfectly fine. You plan your migraines now do you feller? Ugh.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Wednesday, 7 August 2019 00:52 (four years ago) link

I don't know, I have migraines and sometimes when I have a mild one it means I'll have a worse one the next day. Also the thing about migraines is that when you call in sick for them, people get annoyed with you for not giving them more warning. So the pressure is on to try to predict when you're going to have one, even though you can't really.

Lily Dale, Wednesday, 7 August 2019 01:03 (four years ago) link

Hm I guess thats fair.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Wednesday, 7 August 2019 06:09 (four years ago) link

i see people misuse the term "migraine" all the time too. from mild headache to "clearly i do not feel like doing anything so lets go with migraine". i think you're right to be a little suspicious (not that i disagree with the other points, could still be legit).

Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 7 August 2019 14:02 (four years ago) link

Yesterday someone in my office had a slightly frustrating phone call with an outside agency and hung up and announced dramatically, “Please just kill me. Kill me now” and went on for a while. I mean it’s not possible that she hasn’t seen the news in a week so I’m gonna have to go with 100% tone deaf for this one.

There's more Italy than necessary. (in orbit), Wednesday, 7 August 2019 14:12 (four years ago) link

did you... kill her

Captain ACAB (Neil S), Wednesday, 7 August 2019 14:15 (four years ago) link

I’m new here, I’m just trying to keep a low profile.

There's more Italy than necessary. (in orbit), Wednesday, 7 August 2019 14:52 (four years ago) link

yeah probably for the best!

Captain ACAB (Neil S), Wednesday, 7 August 2019 15:03 (four years ago) link

Okay so this one guy who I know I've complained about numerous times who is a thorn in everyone's side and among whose lesser crimes is a basic lack of understanding re: email...his new trick as of yesterday is re-forwarding emails he's just sent. As in: he sends me an email and then five minutes later goes into his 'sent' box and...forwards the email he just sent to me. Just...what? His mind is such an ever-crumbling garbage pit that it's difficult to clearly describe the inscrutable things that he does.

Liberals are insane in the mimbrain!!! (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 7 August 2019 17:01 (four years ago) link

You should open an IT ticket for him since his computer is forwarding emails that have just been sent.

Yerac, Wednesday, 7 August 2019 17:15 (four years ago) link

"oh, I forgot to copy Old Lunch on this email I just sent to Old Lunch!"

that's a special kind of brain pickling

untuned mass damper (mh), Wednesday, 7 August 2019 17:40 (four years ago) link

that sounds annoying af. but i would probably just tell him to stop it.

Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 7 August 2019 17:44 (four years ago) link

*thread stops, horrified*

phil neville jacket (darraghmac), Wednesday, 7 August 2019 17:51 (four years ago) link

I had a coworker who needed some temporary help with fielding political contribution and gifts and entertainment requests so he gave me access to a SHARED DRIVE and SHARED FOLDER that held the database. He would constantly email me to look up something in the shared drive and then walk over to our office to stand by my desk to ask about it. It was so confusing I had no clue if he was just fucking around. Like my brain would break trying to figure out what was going on.

Yerac, Wednesday, 7 August 2019 17:54 (four years ago) link

Re: the e-mail and second e-mail, used to have a co-worker who would send e-mails, then if you were showing online, IM, then if you responded, call. His priority was obviously your #1 priority.

the body of a spider... (scampering alpaca), Wednesday, 7 August 2019 19:53 (four years ago) link

I think he thinks email works like tennis. Someone sends you something and you send it right back to them. Because it's every day. Multiple times a day. I'm noticing that even the management here is getting a little more loose-lipped about their displeasure. But will anything be done? Ever? Even if this continues for several more years? I very much doubt it!

This dude works from home, so I have to just assume that his pants and seat are absolutely drenched in the urine he hasn't figured out how to dispose of properly.

Come and Rock Me, Hot Potatoes (Old Lunch), Friday, 9 August 2019 16:04 (four years ago) link

Between 10 and 11, you're allowed a break in my work and I always go to the staff canteen for a cup of tea and some toast - some people have massive breakfasts. Anyway, every time I'm there, it seems, there's a couple sitting having breakfast after which the man sits sucking his teeth in the loudest, most revolting, way imaginable, while carrying on a conversation with the woman he's always with. It's nauseating.

Euripedes' Trousers (Tom D.), Monday, 12 August 2019 09:24 (four years ago) link

Ewww

i'd rather zing like a man, than FP like a coward (Neanderthal), Monday, 12 August 2019 15:16 (four years ago) link

I am leading training preparation sessions and monitoring the classes when they start. There are three locations in one country - I am responsible for only two.

They assigned separate people to schedule the trainers for each location. Each person stupidly scheduled trainers without bothering to look to see if another location was using them. Three double bookings.

I tell them, they shrug and say "ok we'll just remove these people from your sessions", which now leaves a class with no trainer, and one with one too few.

i'd rather zing like a man, than FP like a coward (Neanderthal), Monday, 12 August 2019 15:24 (four years ago) link

(loud whistling of a jaunty tune suddenly pokes its head above the relative silence from several rows back)

WHERE DO YOU THINK YOU ARE RIGHT NOW? AND HOW DO I SEND YOU TO THAT PLACE, NEVER TO RETURN?

Amply Drizzled with Pure Luxury (Old Lunch), Thursday, 15 August 2019 19:09 (four years ago) link

I am and have been the only person who handles this particular task for years, largely because everyone else has steadfastly avoided learning the particulars of the task in question. So when I tell you that we cannot undertake this particular instance of the task for the reasons I've patiently detailed for you, that is pretty much the final word on the subject, no matter how much of my day you choose to eat up with your uninformed protests. The only thing that is likely to change as a result of your persistence is how many dozens of pizzas I'm going to have delivered to your residence this evening.

Amply Drizzled with Pure Luxury (Old Lunch), Friday, 16 August 2019 15:54 (four years ago) link

And then when I thought he finally took the hint, the dude for some reason forwarded our exchange to someone in another department (a department which, by all rights, I should never ever have any reason to interact with, so who even is this second guy) who has been calling and emailing me for the remainder of the day attempting to debate some shit that isn't up for fucking debate. Trying to decide whether I should or should not set my workstation on fire when I abruptly get up to leave for the weekend (or forever).

(FTR, the basic request is 'hey let's make a material change to a client's account without getting their consent or otherwise informing them in any way' to which my response has been a firm 'no, we pretty clearly should not be doing that, generally speaking, and to the extent that you want me personally to make the change for you, it straight-up isn't goddamn happening, you gaggle of absolute knobs'.

Amply Drizzled with Pure Luxury (Old Lunch), Friday, 16 August 2019 18:25 (four years ago) link

Coming onto this thread to vent into the void, because don't want to burden my wife with yet more complaints.

I work in a seasonal business where most of the year is preparing for the summer - I am nominally in charge of everything, but the recurring temporary summer ops manager* has the owner's favour and can do no wrong, whereas everything I do is assumed to be a failure even before it's been tried. This year this manager has fucked up loads and I haven't really put a foot wrong as far as I can see, yet the owner still talks to me in this contemptuous tone or berates me in public for any vague worries she has, while letting anything he does wrong slide just because he's her mate, and he'll just say "oops" and be instantly forgiven. For example, many of the best staff are very stressed and tired because of a decision he made, and they don't want to come back, she has even tried to pin this on me somehow, though actually it happened because I wasn't listened to. It is becoming dangerous to my mental and physical health, I need to quit but need stable work for my wife's visa, and yeah, pretty unhappy about all of this obviously.

*overlapping job roles is not good yeah?

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 16 August 2019 21:58 (four years ago) link

one month passes...

My work client has finally reached the point where she can't think her way out of a paper bag. She has to get 20 JPGs to someone who said they need to be sent via Dropbox. She's going to email all of them to me so I can do the dropboxing. She claims chemo brain now that she's undergoing cancer treatment, but she's been acquiring this degree of learned helplessness for years. But I made myself indispensable to her as a form of job security, so I can't complain too much.

WmC, Friday, 20 September 2019 17:55 (four years ago) link

co-worker who lacks an indoor voice is discussing which teenage mutant ninja turtle is best

'raph is too serious, you know what i'm saying? it's like, lighten up bro'

mookieproof, Wednesday, 25 September 2019 20:37 (four years ago) link

Da fuq? That would fit Leo or Donatello more than Raph.

When I am afraid, I put my toast in you (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 25 September 2019 20:59 (four years ago) link

i have no turtle in this fight

mookieproof, Wednesday, 25 September 2019 21:01 (four years ago) link

the only impression the first movie made on me was that Raphael was having a very rough go of it.

maffew12, Wednesday, 25 September 2019 21:05 (four years ago) link

He lost a sai

When I am afraid, I put my toast in you (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 25 September 2019 22:10 (four years ago) link

I was sent to the Philippines for work for a month at a partner site. My work laptop stopped working due to what is probably a bad motherboard the second day I was there.

You would think my company would have some kind of contingency plan, but no. We outsourced our IT to another company two years ago and they blow. We have no office out here, no IT, no pop-up support. No arrangements with local repair companies or any guidance. Just virtual support. So naturally their virtual support punted the ticket as a hardware issue, and the folks back home are just ignoring it. My boss doesn't know what to do because it's not his job to know.

The only reason I have been able to get any work or training done was the Manila partner site likely violating their own security rules to let me use one of their machines (which, in the States, this company never allows). Which I owe them mightily for.

When I am afraid, I put my toast in you (Neanderthal), Monday, 30 September 2019 23:27 (four years ago) link

remember to bring this up any time you hear someone say we need to run our government more like a business.

A is for (Aimless), Monday, 30 September 2019 23:32 (four years ago) link

Lol otm

When I am afraid, I put my toast in you (Neanderthal), Monday, 30 September 2019 23:43 (four years ago) link

Got feedback today that someone observed me sleeping during a training class I was observing. Obvious nonsense as I was only at that location 1.5 days and heavily multitasking both days, couldn't have fallen asleep if I tried.

Besides, I snore.

When I am afraid, I put my toast in you (Neanderthal), Saturday, 5 October 2019 00:31 (four years ago) link

I watch you when you are sleeping
you belong with me

kinder, Saturday, 5 October 2019 10:47 (four years ago) link

Lol.

Fitting that when I actually dropped multiple f bombs during live training on a hot mic that I thought was muted three weeks ago that I inexplicably received no discipline, but "sleepgate" required a follow-up discussion.

When I am afraid, I put my toast in you (Neanderthal), Saturday, 5 October 2019 14:07 (four years ago) link

Everybody had to change their passwords from temporary to permanent.

I have literally watched this guy not be able to figure it out for 25 minutes. It has to be 8 characters and have one uppercase. He keeps creating an all lower case password of the right length. I have told him five times it needs an upper case, just to change one of the lowercase letters to uppercase.

He keeps adding a new Uppercase letter to his password, making it 9 and invalid.

Two of us have tried to break it down as simply as possible. We are ready to give up.

When I am afraid, I put my toast in you (Neanderthal), Thursday, 10 October 2019 15:10 (four years ago) link

We aren't permitted to create one for him, but im tempted to anyway

When I am afraid, I put my toast in you (Neanderthal), Thursday, 10 October 2019 15:11 (four years ago) link

It can't be more than 8 characters? I mean, I get your frustration at the dude, but that requirement is stupid and annoying as well.

☮ (peace, man), Thursday, 10 October 2019 15:48 (four years ago) link

I don't disagree with you there.

When I am afraid, I put my toast in you (Neanderthal), Thursday, 10 October 2019 16:07 (four years ago) link

We are behind the times in a few areas

When I am afraid, I put my toast in you (Neanderthal), Thursday, 10 October 2019 16:07 (four years ago) link

Why not just tell him to make it 7 characters and one uppercase?

Sassy Boutonnière (ledriver), Friday, 11 October 2019 23:59 (four years ago) link

She's going to email all of them to me so I can do the dropboxing.

WC, I just want to let you know that I feel you on this.

We have an internal server for all of our photography, used 99% in print publications. Huge tiffs, 300 dpi, etc. Obviously, we also have a server from which all of our online photos and art are hosted. 1200x800 jpgs, 72 dpi. It's where I live the most.

Every once in awhile, an editor will say, Hey, I saw that mug of the convicted politician online. How come it's not on the internal server? And I'll say Because what you see online is what I found online. There's no bigger version of it.

And they say, But I wanted to download it for something!

pplains, Saturday, 12 October 2019 01:03 (four years ago) link

I got an email that a learner was terminated today. He is sitting in the class with the person who sent it without explanation. And it's not a mistake - I was given a head's up about it a day or two in advance.

So i am having to pull the manager out of the room to ask "wtf? Is he fired...or not?".

When I am afraid, I put my toast in you (Neanderthal), Monday, 14 October 2019 13:06 (four years ago) link

So frustrating when someone beneath you is looking over your shoulder trying to learn your job when you've been doing that job for fifteen years. I mean, it's just not in the best interests of the organization at all. Not worried about losing my job to her, I mean I have loads of knowledge that she can't buy, but it's unnerving and bad for morale that someone just views you as a "rival" and not a human being. She's not going to get my job if I leave - not because of politics or anything but just because she's not qualified. She's not concentrating enough on her own job and mastering that. And the entitlement is getting on everyone's nerves. I wish someone would say something, but she's well-connected so people tolerate her.

two colleagues are very insistent -- behind the scenes -- that certain items on our web page contain no more than three lines of text. there is no particular reason for this -- other items in the same area take up more space. also the page is responsive, so the number of lines of text depends on how wide your screen/window is

why do you even care

mookieproof, Thursday, 17 October 2019 15:54 (four years ago) link

Lol those kind of pedants drive me nuts

When I am afraid, I put my toast in you (Neanderthal), Thursday, 17 October 2019 15:56 (four years ago) link

Yesterday we had a meeting where we decided that we should have a FAQs page (fine) and that it shouldn't be too long or people wouldn't read it (probably true) and we arbitrarily decided that 20 questions was the maximum (ok) and then we ended up with 21 and there was bitter debate about which question should either go unanswered or be merged into something unrelated just for the sake of having precisely 20.

*shrug*

(also annoying because we took time and debate to whittle the list of "general" questions down to 16 and then the project lead just stuck all 5 very specific qs from his specialist area on the end with no debate, but hey)

a passing spacecadet, Thursday, 17 October 2019 16:15 (four years ago) link

ime, FAQs 1-10 roll over from last year's project; FAQs 11-12 are specific to this year's project, and FAQs 13-30 are explaining errors that have been pointed out and then corrected

kinder, Thursday, 17 October 2019 19:10 (four years ago) link

Ops mgr gave me a roster for a class next week. t had 11 people on it who already took the same class last October, almost exactly a year ago. So obviously a copy error where he accidentally merged two Excel tabs.

He insisted he hadn't to my colleague, so I go to him to ask why these 11 would be taking the class again.

He triples down, insisting that these managers asked to enroll these students, then emails them all to ask why they were having these students take the class again.

Turns out six of the 11 learners don't even work here anymore, and one of the managers said the person listed wasn't someone they managed anymore. And the signup for this class only just went up a few weeks ago.

Maybe *this time* he'll get

When I am afraid, I put my toast in you (Neanderthal), Thursday, 17 October 2019 20:22 (four years ago) link

my job sucks but god is my workplace less annoying sounding than pretty much everyone's itt

Seany's too Dyche to mention (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 17 October 2019 20:24 (four years ago) link

My job's great mostly, the company is poorly run and will probably collapse

When I am afraid, I put my toast in you (Neanderthal), Thursday, 17 October 2019 20:34 (four years ago) link

my job is good, if repetitive. a couple people are entrenched on weird and unimportant hills, but i suppose that's universal

mookieproof, Thursday, 17 October 2019 21:15 (four years ago) link

Somedays I'm the only one at work, so I guess I'm my own stupid co-worker now.

tokyo rosemary, Thursday, 17 October 2019 21:27 (four years ago) link

lol aps's 21/20 story instantly sent me into my "no lists shd ever be a multiple of five long, it's bad not good" beef, i am everyone's stupid annoying co-worker (i'm not stupid but i have cranky and indefensible views) (which just happen to be correct)

mark s, Thursday, 17 October 2019 21:38 (four years ago) link

Oh god, something that happened at my last job still sticks in my craw.
Even though I am not a music librarian I was asked to take over the world music aspect of building a music library. The music department asked us to do this. So, that meant buying material that best represented the culture, not watered-down Euro tourist "your tropical vacation" type shit. It's music they use in language and culture and film classes too, so it has to be good. So this faculty member asked me to buy a rare Japanese film soundtrack...and I was told that if a faculty member wanted something, as long as it was $30 or under, to go ahead and buy it. And I did and this co-worker who's not a librarian chewed me out...when frankly, even the music librarian told me she was out of her depth there and could I please do it. I was so humiliated to be talked down to by this guy. What's more, I was asked to order it by the faculty member. Ich. And then the director said I was buying too much music WHEN THE MUSIC LIBRARIAN ASKED ME TO BUY ALL OF THAT STUFF because the stuff our CD vendor was sending us was weak and inadequate. I mean, and then she turns around and says we should all be developing our skills and I thought this would be a good career building, buying all of that music. I mean, sometimes they pull this "bait and switch" stuff with me. We're not all on the same page - one person will say "develop your skills and think about your next job" then will say "you're getting too ambitious and hint hint think about moving on, we need someone less knowledgeable here." I'm still bitter about it. I've moved on, but the director apparently still bitched after I left about all of the music I bought. Like, get over it, lady.

I Guess Old Notre Dame Won't Win After All (I M Losted), Friday, 18 October 2019 00:17 (four years ago) link

Manager: hey are you busy, can I ask you a question?
Me: sure, what's up?

- 10 minutes elapse

she did this to me again just now. it's 1pm and I'm just about to take lunch, she messages me "are you free for a quick call now?" I think well I'm about to get something to eat but let's get it out the way, so I say "sure yes"

- 10 minutes elapse

Colonel Poo, Monday, 21 October 2019 13:41 (four years ago) link

... are you new to the workforce?

maffew12, Monday, 21 October 2019 13:43 (four years ago) link

feel like this is close kin to "how busy are you right now?" i.e. the most tooth-grinding question ever conceived by the mind of humanity. it is so beyond the pale for me. anyone asking it i lose 100% respect for instantly.

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Monday, 21 October 2019 22:07 (four years ago) link

I just saw your email appeared in my inbox so why have you walked over to where I'm sitting to say "I've just sent you an email."

lefal junglist platton (wtev), Tuesday, 29 October 2019 12:20 (four years ago) link

Was reflecting on the drive-by email today - “hey we really should get together to discuss this massive project just putting it out there get back to me with your available times and I will undertake to not reply to you for approx 2 weeks”. I have a few of those meetings somewhere in the bardo waiting to manifest.

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Tuesday, 29 October 2019 12:31 (four years ago) link

If one more, just one more, person of whom I've requested something is like 'yeah, we're all good bruh' only for me to discover that we are not actually all good, bruh, and that the requestee never even bothered to confirm that we were all good before consulting whatever goddamn faulty oracle he's using to sense whether a request might or might not be legitimate, I'm going to aim my head directly at that person's midsection so as to assail them with skull shrapnel when my brain finally and inevitably explodes.

Seriously: what the fuck is this tendency and how the fuck do these people remain employed.

Feed Me Wheat Thins (Old Lunch), Friday, 1 November 2019 17:37 (four years ago) link

Does your company operate like mine where "managers" can't actually fire anybody without a lengthy HR arbitration first, after which they always say "give them another chance"?

That's usually how.

When I am afraid, I put my toast in you (Neanderthal), Friday, 1 November 2019 17:44 (four years ago) link

I mean shit I didn't even get a wrist slap for the major code of conduct violation i accidentally committed on a hot mic

When I am afraid, I put my toast in you (Neanderthal), Friday, 1 November 2019 17:45 (four years ago) link

The response to basically every infraction or display of incompetence is 'WELL...(*shrug*)...WHATTAYAGONNADO?'. Which is to say that management doesn't, y'know, 'manage' per se. It's a lot of fun!

Feed Me Wheat Thins (Old Lunch), Friday, 1 November 2019 18:06 (four years ago) link

And the individual in this instance actually is a 'manager' who just sent an email revealing his profound ignorance to me and another employee (basically: I requested that a thing be updated per our current standards and he responded saying 'But everything looks correct to me! Look! (types out the settings which reflect our standards from...three? maybe four years ago? I guess he's been in a fucking coma all that time and wasn't alerted to the multitude of changes that have taken place since then?) Me no understand what is problem! Duhhhhhhh!'

Feed Me Wheat Thins (Old Lunch), Friday, 1 November 2019 18:11 (four years ago) link

I mean shit I didn't even get a wrist slap for the major code of conduct violation i accidentally committed on a hot mic

you just gonna leave us hanging like that?!

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 1 November 2019 18:24 (four years ago) link

Just went for a piss while still wearing my microphone and the whole conference heard me call the urinal a "thirsty boy"

— Bea_ker (@bea_ker) February 18, 2016

Feed Me Wheat Thins (Old Lunch), Friday, 1 November 2019 18:28 (four years ago) link

Does your company operate like mine where "managers" can't actually fire anybody without a lengthy HR arbitration first, after which they always say "give them another chance"?

That's usually how.

― When I am afraid, I put my toast in you (Neanderthal), Friday, 1 November 2019 17:44 (fifty-one minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

lol

sorry for rights

deems of internment (darraghmac), Friday, 1 November 2019 18:37 (four years ago) link

We had a meeting. We’re just three employees plus the manager. The whole meeting was to correct a colleague’s behavior. (One of the things she does is organise promotions w/o the manager’s knowledge. Wtf.) The whole fucking time she just didn’t take responsibility. It was infuriating. I have stood up for her when others complained. No more.
She also reprimands me for being “too easy.” Well, next time she’ll know that sometimes I am not always easy. F her.
Urgh.

nathom, Friday, 1 November 2019 18:59 (four years ago) link

Does your company operate like mine where "managers" can't actually fire anybody without a lengthy HR arbitration first, after which they always say "give them another chance"?

That's usually how.

― When I am afraid, I put my toast in you (Neanderthal), Friday, 1 November 2019 17:44 (fifty-one minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

lol

sorry for rights

― deems of internment (darraghmac), Friday, November 1, 2019 11:37 AM (twenty-three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

yes, lol at this. best thing about being a unionized employee in the public sector is that my ass is basically unfireable

ت (jim in vancouver), Friday, 1 November 2019 19:01 (four years ago) link

Unfortunately a 'firing people? what's that?' workplace is also the best thing for people who have been reduced to little more than twitching brainstems and whose sole purpose is to burden everyone else with their inability to function.

Feed Me Wheat Thins (Old Lunch), Friday, 1 November 2019 19:07 (four years ago) link

yeah i have dipshit coworkers too. i just am very direct when they fuck up and that keeps most people from being too much of a nuisance

ت (jim in vancouver), Friday, 1 November 2019 19:09 (four years ago) link

FWIW I don't advocate firing people willy nilly but like...there's always a toilet that could use a bit of extra scrubbing, manager who probably couldn't manage the intricacies of a three-ring binder.

Feed Me Wheat Thins (Old Lunch), Friday, 1 November 2019 19:10 (four years ago) link

i feel like this site is falling in on itself tbh

deems of internment (darraghmac), Friday, 1 November 2019 19:20 (four years ago) link

ILX is work now?

:(

pomenitul, Friday, 1 November 2019 19:22 (four years ago) link

since 2014 imma say

deems of internment (darraghmac), Friday, 1 November 2019 19:23 (four years ago) link

It feels that way because you're not ranking metal subgenres on ILM.

pomenitul, Friday, 1 November 2019 19:25 (four years ago) link

idk, deems is perhaps disappointed in the lack of nuance itt dedicated to the art of hyperbolic work-related steam expulsion

Feed Me Wheat Thins (Old Lunch), Friday, 1 November 2019 19:25 (four years ago) link

oh im too woke now huh

deems of internment (darraghmac), Friday, 1 November 2019 19:26 (four years ago) link

I've been saying, tone it down my dude

Feed Me Wheat Thins (Old Lunch), Friday, 1 November 2019 19:28 (four years ago) link

Between Facebook, Twitter, reddit and a few other massifs hovering up the time and attention of most potential ILX newcomers, and ILX's heavy reliance on text-based interaction and the generally high level of verbal acuity required to participate, ILX has been slowly sagging and shrinking for a while now. When it finally becomes a ghost town, I'll be one of the last to leave, but I'm thankful the necrosis is not too far advanced, yet. I like the company here.

A is for (Aimless), Friday, 1 November 2019 19:39 (four years ago) link

I've been steadily gnawing at the load-bearing support struts for some time, myself, sorry about that.

Feed Me Wheat Thins (Old Lunch), Friday, 1 November 2019 19:45 (four years ago) link

lol

sorry for rights

― deems of internment (darraghmac), Friday, November 1, 2019 11:37 AM (twenty-three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

yes, lol at this. best thing about being a unionized employee in the public sector is that my ass is basically unfireable

― ت (jim in vancouver), Friday, November 1, 2019 3:01 PM bookmarkflaglink

Has nothing to do with rights deems/jim. Obviously I don't want managers firing motherfuckers for bullshit reasons. That is the good function of our HR.

But they don't let manager terminate people who are legitimately terrible. I had someone on my team who missed every deadline for three years, even after extensions. Who me and others had to finish the massive work they couldn't finish while doing their own job. Who frequently lied and was caught lying. Never got through one project where they completed more than 60% of what was assigned.

The only person on the team who had this problem. Left me working 70 hour weeks doing her job and mine.

But no, we weren't allowed to terminate her.

Keep on taking bad faith reads tho guys it's a gl for ya

When I am afraid, I put my toast in you (Neanderthal), Friday, 1 November 2019 20:14 (four years ago) link

I mean shit I didn't even get a wrist slap for the major code of conduct violation i accidentally committed on a hot mic

you just gonna leave us hanging like that?!

― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Friday, November 1, 2019 2:24 PM bookmarkflaglink

I was given five minutes notice that the class I was supposed to be relieved from was mine all day while having to simultaneously do another 8 hour assignment. And then I found out my partner hadn't done the favor he had promised to do to help me just take a breath.

My anxiety was going nuts. So I vent to myself, but loudly, "Oh my FUCKING GOD, all I fucking asked you was to do one motherfucking favor but of FUCKING COURSE NOT!"

Surprised to hear rustling over the phone from the learners, who are doing an assignment yet all seemed to start muttering right at the same time I....

Oh shit, I look at the WebEx to check that I muted it, which of course I did, stop being paran...

Oh fuck. Not muted. One angry learner types "Mute your phone, sir!"

Self-reported it to my boss, issued lengthy apology to the class. Waited for the formal discipline that never came.

Boss seemed to think it was nbd. I shoulda at least been written up tho.

I feel like i got lucky due to how busy it was more than intentionally being let off.

When I am afraid, I put my toast in you (Neanderthal), Friday, 1 November 2019 20:30 (four years ago) link

yeah i have dipshit coworkers too. i just am very direct when they fuck up and that keeps most people from being too much of a nuisance

― ت (jim in vancouver), Friday, November 1, 2019 3:09 PM bookmarkflaglink

Lol last time i did that i got a talking to, nice that youre allowed to do it

When I am afraid, I put my toast in you (Neanderthal), Friday, 1 November 2019 20:34 (four years ago) link

I can only laugh today

so I was worried I’d have dumb questions or a derail from my manager’s peer, who works elsewhere, during this meeting. but instead this happens:

three of us in the room, the person doing the work remote, and her manager remote. we speak for a while, then I ask a question that one of the remote people need to answer. dead air! so I check, and the person who would do it had dropped from the conference call. happens due to connection issues, nbd. her manager isn’t responding but is listed as present so maybe he’s dropped but it hasn’t timed out?

about ten minutes later, I hear breathing on the speaker. he’s there! he says something about “had to step away”
and mumbles something jumbled including “bathroom.” she appears back on a moment later, and we find out.. she had technical issues and he had silently absconded to the toilet! whatever, but pretty funny because he’s a constant interjector and micromanager and actually assumed she could handle it but only because his bowels were messed up

so the funniest part is later. someone who was in the room messaged me to confirm he definitely had disappeared for a while. apparently there was an after-meeting conversation and he played it off like he’d been on the call the entire time

mh, Saturday, 2 November 2019 00:34 (four years ago) link

Lol last time i did that i got a talking to, nice that youre allowed to do it

― When I am afraid, I put my toast in you (Neanderthal), Friday, November 1, 2019 4:34 PM (four hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

didn't get fired though so that's nice

qualx, Saturday, 2 November 2019 01:36 (four years ago) link

We found out at work that a former tech employee had been spying on people's e-mails and stuff. She had been stalking a well-liked media studies professor. She apparently had people's e-mails and stuff, which included me, because I had exchanged e-mail with him. I guess she had been spreading a lot of bullshit about people having affairs and stuff. How a fantasist like this ever got hired in the first place is beyond me.

G. Gordon Creepy (I M Losted), Sunday, 3 November 2019 14:48 (four years ago) link

Also it got back to me that she thought I was having an affair with the professor, who was old enough to be my dad.

G. Gordon Creepy (I M Losted), Sunday, 3 November 2019 14:49 (four years ago) link

well, that only seems incredibly fireable and somewhat criminal

mh, Sunday, 3 November 2019 16:36 (four years ago) link

Of course it's criminal...I guess we have to wait and see whether charges will be filed. Certainly a crazy erotomanic stalker like that ought to be off the streets.

"Graham" or "Gram"...inquiring minds need to know! (I M Losted), Sunday, 3 November 2019 20:33 (four years ago) link

there‘s this woman in my region who has been covered by local news multiple times for getting a job under false premises, telling an elaborate story about her life that‘s and stealing a bunch of cash from employers

she’s obviously intelligent and sympathetic enough to sell it but it blows my mind that she’s dodged out with a requirement for mental health treatment, ordered to pay restitution, only for some employer who hasn’t recognized her to hire her again and she’s back in the news cycle in six months

so uh, best of luck with the work stalker

mh, Monday, 4 November 2019 00:25 (four years ago) link

story that’s tragic, I meant to say

mh, Monday, 4 November 2019 00:25 (four years ago) link

Shared an office with a guy who exhaled a satisfied 'aaaahhhhhhh...' after every loud gulp of coffee or water for one year.

Sam Weller, Monday, 4 November 2019 11:55 (four years ago) link

i work with a sicilian

its been intense but we're both taking learnings from it

deems of internment (darraghmac), Monday, 4 November 2019 12:02 (four years ago) link

Where I work is full of Italians fwiw.

Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Monday, 4 November 2019 13:43 (four years ago) link

I'm part sicilian, is there something I should be concerned about?

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Monday, 4 November 2019 14:05 (four years ago) link

If one more, just one more, person of whom I've requested something is like 'yeah, we're all good bruh' only for me to discover that we are not actually all good, bruh, and that the requestee never even bothered to confirm that we were all good before consulting whatever goddamn faulty oracle he's using to sense whether a request might or might not be legitimate, I'm going to aim my head directly at that person's midsection so as to assail them with skull shrapnel when my brain finally and inevitably explodes.

― Feed Me Wheat Thins (Old Lunch), Friday, November 1, 2019 12:37 PM (three days ago) bookmarkflaglink

Elapsed time between this morning's request (to a different manager altogether) and the offhand and completely incorrect dismissal it received: < 1 minute. BRB, scheduling a brain explosion rn.

Feed Me Wheat Thins (Old Lunch), Monday, 4 November 2019 14:11 (four years ago) link

xp i dunno, its kinda hard to say without knowing whether you have any idea of the volume of your voice, the ideal level of personal space other people would appreciate, whether or not they like to finish their sentences before you begin to tell an unrelated anecdote because you were bored etc etc

i mean i think it may be just him, but ive raised it at increasing levels of fraughtness and he just thinks its a cultural thing so....?

deems of internment (darraghmac), Monday, 4 November 2019 14:13 (four years ago) link

Where I work is full of Italians fwiw.

― Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.)

ITALIANS ARE NOT THE SAME AS SICILIANS, as Sicilians will tell you when you meet them and about every five minutes thereafter.

I do a lot of the stuff people on this thread complain about.

tantric societal collapse (rushomancy), Monday, 4 November 2019 14:47 (four years ago) link

*meaningful hand gesture*

mh, Monday, 4 November 2019 14:52 (four years ago) link

Imagine how confusing it is for those of us who are part Italian and part Sicilian. My identity is a mess!

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Monday, 4 November 2019 15:02 (four years ago) link

please stop shouting, please

deems of internment (darraghmac), Monday, 4 November 2019 17:12 (four years ago) link

The entire department just behind me (in our garbage open-plan office where there is no privacy and certainly no barriers against sound) is comprised of individuals who have seemingly never been exposed to the concept of an 'inside voice'. Or the concept of 'working instead of pretending you're on your third glass of wine at a raucous dinner party'. I assume these were qualities that management actively sought out? At any rate, it's...it's just such an absolute delight.

Feed Me Wheat Thins (Old Lunch), Monday, 4 November 2019 17:26 (four years ago) link

guessing that here darragh is using “Sicilian” to mean “someone from Sicily,” not “someone from America”

now let's play big lunch take little lunch (sic), Monday, 4 November 2019 17:28 (four years ago) link

Sometimes, sic, your corrections are in reference to things that were never said or even inferred. Just FYI, if you want to save yourself some time.

Feed Me Wheat Thins (Old Lunch), Monday, 4 November 2019 17:30 (four years ago) link

(At any rate: the unspoken-yet-readily-acknowledged thread that runs through my panoply of work-related complaints is that I just plain don't belong here and that the real problem is that I haven't moved the christ on already. I accept this as primarily my failing, I just don't allow it to curb my bitchery.)

Feed Me Wheat Thins (Old Lunch), Monday, 4 November 2019 17:31 (four years ago) link

im not, and i know im fierce on the distinction as it pertains to my own set, but im not sure sicilianity actually dilutes tbh

deems of internment (darraghmac), Monday, 4 November 2019 18:12 (four years ago) link

ITALIANS ARE NOT THE SAME AS SICILIANS, as Sicilians will tell you when you meet them and about every five minutes thereafter.

Not like Italians to be hung up on whereabouts in Italy they come from.

Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Monday, 4 November 2019 18:18 (four years ago) link

there were a number of hilarious things that came out of a conversation between my traveling companions and a younger Polish dude when I was visiting a few weeks back, but one of the best might have been that residents of Warsaw, unlike the people of Krakow, are "not really Polish"

mh, Monday, 4 November 2019 18:27 (four years ago) link

well yeah this isnt a strange phenomenon tbf

like, dubs....arent *real* gaels like. everyone knows this.

deems of internment (darraghmac), Monday, 4 November 2019 18:28 (four years ago) link

And Glaswegians aren't Scottish (i.e. Protestant) enough but they dgaf.

Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Monday, 4 November 2019 18:32 (four years ago) link

*nods*

mh, Monday, 4 November 2019 18:36 (four years ago) link

ITALIANS ARE NOT THE SAME AS SICILIANS, as Sicilians will tell you when you meet them and about every five minutes thereafter.

Not like Italians to be hung up on whereabouts in Italy they come from.

― Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Monday, November 4, 2019 10:18 AM (eighteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

as someone who is 1/8th genovese i don't care where in italy you're from as long as it isn't the south

ت (jim in vancouver), Monday, 4 November 2019 18:38 (four years ago) link

Sometimes, sic, your corrections are in reference to things that were never said or even inferred. Just FYI, if you want to save yourself some time.

I’m not sure if this is in reference to anything that was said or even inferred

now let's play big lunch take little lunch (sic), Monday, 4 November 2019 18:47 (four years ago) link

Ha ha ha...I'm 1/4 Calabrese and I grew up around a lot of Italian-Americans and let me tell you, the Calabrese were taught that Sicilians were the "shit" Italians. Then I take a course in Italian and the Northern (very white) Italian teacher tells us that southern Italians are worthless, their food sucks and they have made no contributions to culture and history.

So this past week, this new dude screws up a project, gets chewed out for it, so of his own volition he goes and does it again, just to prove he can do it right. Never mind that it is pointless, redundant, and a waste of everyone's time.

Dad Gum Yo Hide (I M Losted), Tuesday, 5 November 2019 14:02 (four years ago) link

can't we all just agree that italians were a mistake and call it a day

non-euclidean lenin (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 5 November 2019 14:02 (four years ago) link

My work AGM today, thoughts and prayers appreciated

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Wednesday, 6 November 2019 00:09 (four years ago) link

a good coworker has predicted “fireworks” during his group meeting next week where the ridiculous manager I’ve complained about will be attending. apparently the last full group meeting they had ended poorly and with the manager in town, there may be torches and pitchforks

mh, Wednesday, 6 November 2019 01:21 (four years ago) link

A little off-topic, what I learned from that Italian class (which I was taking for work anyway) - never say, "quanti ani hai" instead of "quanti AN-NI hai". Pronounce both of the "n"s or else you're saying "how many assholes do you have?"

Here I Sit, Buns a FleXor, Givin' Birth to Another... (I M Losted), Wednesday, 6 November 2019 04:27 (four years ago) link

Sounds like a Jurassic Park question

Jordan Pickford LOLverdrive (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 6 November 2019 05:01 (four years ago) link

And then having to get up really early in the morning so I can come in to work early because I have to clean up a mess someone else made. My health is no good, I can't keep living without sleep, I'm cleaning this shit up for free (because we're all screwed if someone doesn't). I'm too old to find a new job so all I can do is make these sacrifices in hopes that maybe someone will eventually care that I did all of that work.

Here I Sit, Buns a FleXor, Givin' Birth to Another... (I M Losted), Friday, 8 November 2019 12:45 (four years ago) link

Maybe just run through exactly what you all put in each one of your variously coloured bins one more fucking time.

Non, je ned raggette rien (onimo), Monday, 18 November 2019 16:50 (four years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Every time there is a mass behavioral issue to solve with our representatives, I get met with blank stares when I ask if anybody surveyed the people who made the mistake why they thought this was the correct way to do it.

Kinda amazes me that people who get paid three times my salary don't understand that solving a widespread behavioral problem requires understanding the root cause first.

master of nuggets (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 4 December 2019 18:41 (four years ago) link

Bring in the consultants for that, on their even more inflated day rates!

lefal junglist platton (wtev), Sunday, 8 December 2019 12:55 (four years ago) link

We all occasionally hit send before we realize we've mistyped an email address. It happens, we're human. We might even occasionally have a bad day and punch in the wrong address several times over before we finally get it right. But when we just keep forwarding that same email until it finally reaches its recipient but don't bother to delete all of the previous failed attempts from the body of said email, it might appear to the recipient as if we're suffering from an as-yet-undiagnosed neurological condition.

i was so hungry that i ate a hole cake entirely to myself (Old Lunch), Thursday, 19 December 2019 20:09 (four years ago) link

imo this person thinks it's your fault for having the wrong address and wants to show you what you did

insecurity bear (sic), Thursday, 19 December 2019 20:37 (four years ago) link

That actually happens! Semi-regularly! 'I have already attempted to send this to you three times previously with no response. (scroll down and see multiple instances of the email being sent to nonexistent addresses)'

i was so hungry that i ate a hole cake entirely to myself (Old Lunch), Thursday, 19 December 2019 20:39 (four years ago) link

I'm like 94% convinced that our CEO is some sort of warlock who feeds on the cognitive capacity of anyone who works for or with us. As if my dumb ass alone isn't evidence of that theory.

i was so hungry that i ate a hole cake entirely to myself (Old Lunch), Thursday, 19 December 2019 20:41 (four years ago) link

I'm still getting messages on my personal email address for some electrical contractor in Florida, despite having emailed the offender that they have the wrong address.

I have a lot of information about what devices are installed at a certain mouse-governed theme park due to their continued confusion and have yet to determine what to do with it.

mh, Thursday, 19 December 2019 20:52 (four years ago) link

Is there way way to hack their fast passes?

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Thursday, 19 December 2019 21:02 (four years ago) link

Just send it to the mouse guys and ask are you okay with your business information being shared this way. Should get a pretty swift reaction.

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Thursday, 19 December 2019 21:09 (four years ago) link

wtf dude I'm not shutting off the faucet

mh, Thursday, 19 December 2019 21:14 (four years ago) link

i get a lot of misdirected emails to my personal address and when I reply to say "you've got the wrong email address" the usual response is "well this is the one you/your colleague/Todd gave to me, which one am I supposed to use???"

kinder, Friday, 20 December 2019 08:27 (four years ago) link

xp sorry I thought you wanted that, but play on, play on

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Friday, 20 December 2019 09:04 (four years ago) link

I have a lot of information about what devices are installed at a certain mouse-governed theme park due to their continued confusion and have yet to determine what to do with it.

Please note that utility data for the entire campus is also included. This was the only data made available with the application, and in order to accurately estimate and verify savings, individual building meter data will need to be obtained from the campus.

i chop up the orange and chomp on the inside of it (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 20 December 2019 10:00 (four years ago) link

I have quite a common name and get a lot of Gmail meant for other people: medical details, flight tickets etc., which I guess is often the result of people entering their own email addresses wrongly when they place the order. Who does that?

fetter, Friday, 20 December 2019 10:50 (four years ago) link

loads of people it seems

I get gmails for some guy in Wisconsin who buys a deer-hunting license every year, some guy in Ireland who does something to do with horse racing, timesheets for a temp worker in the midlands (that was a bit of a weird one, since I am from the midlands and my namesake was working not far from where I grew up)

I used to reply telling them but it doesn't make any difference, they just keep on coming.

Colonel Poo, Friday, 20 December 2019 11:17 (four years ago) link

So I work in the nonprofit division of a company that, by and large, handles for-profit business. The primary email address I monitor consists entirely of the word 'nonprofit' before the @. Not a lot of ambiguity there. So when I regularly receive emails that are like 'yeah hi would you be interested in this retail auto parts franchise' I have to wonder what people think 'nonprofit' means. Or if they've ever given it any thought. Or if they think. Gag me. With a spoon.

i was so hungry that i ate a hole cake entirely to myself (Old Lunch), Friday, 20 December 2019 12:46 (four years ago) link

i get a lot of misdirected emails to my personal address and when I reply to say "you've got the wrong email address" the usual response is "well this is the one you/your colleague/Todd gave to me, which one am I supposed to use???"

― kinder, Friday, December 20, 2019 3:27 AM bookmarkflaglink

Lol "don't you tell me you're not the right person!" always blows my mind. i have a dude at work whose name is exactly the same as mine, sans three letters (first and last) so the same would sometimes happen to me.

So they'd email me when they wanted him and I'd say "you really mean this guy" and give them the right contact and they go WELL MY BOSS TOLD ME YOU WERE THE PERSON.

"I think i know who I am, athankyou"

Bublé in the changer, I wish I was dead (Neanderthal), Friday, 20 December 2019 19:32 (four years ago) link

You think. Which means you can't say for sure.

C'mon. Stop fuckin' with me, Neondirtpal.

i was so hungry that i ate a hole cake entirely to myself (Old Lunch), Friday, 20 December 2019 19:39 (four years ago) link

My boss is trying to convince my coworker to buy the business bc she wants to retire

She wants $250k

The company hasn’t made a profit in years

She has been loaning the business money each year for years

How does she think my coworker could get a loan to buy a unprofitable business?

just1n3, Friday, 20 December 2019 20:26 (four years ago) link

A couple weeks ago coworker told me she had a meeting set up with boss so she could present a business proposal (let coworker run the business for a year, split profits, pay boss a salary*, boss doesn’t have to do anything, see if coworker can make the business work before committing to purchase). Coworker is surprised bc boss says she also has a business proposal.

Coworker comes back from meeting and when I ask what boss’ proposal was she says 0_o boss suggested a new way of merchandising the stores 0_o

That was her bUsinESs pRopOsaL

*boss has not been paying herself a salary for years. We recently got audited.

just1n3, Friday, 20 December 2019 20:32 (four years ago) link

Boss has somehow kept this v badly run business afloat for 40 yrs
NB her side hustle is landlord to several properties in the Bay Area and New Zealand

just1n3, Friday, 20 December 2019 21:47 (four years ago) link

Some people have weird ass vanity businesses. it's so strange. I had a friend that asked if I would take her daytime shifts in a small, typical trendy boutique in the east village for two weeks ( I did not work there at all and supposedly the owner was fine with her asking whoever for two weeks). There were some days not a single person would come in. I think I sold 4 things the entire time I was there. The owner did not seem bothered.

Yerac, Friday, 20 December 2019 21:57 (four years ago) link

Oh my boss goes hard out with this business and is v invested in it, she’s just not good at it

just1n3, Friday, 20 December 2019 22:33 (four years ago) link

I know there are a myriad of reasons those businesses exist, especially ones that are very boutique and sell $$ over short periods to moneyed clients or are a hobby for a rich person, but my go-to thought is always money laundering

mh, Saturday, 21 December 2019 02:23 (four years ago) link

She could never work for anyone so she had to go into business for herself. She has a v scatterbrained approach to everything and constantly contradicts herself. The only reason she’s managed this long (apart from injecting more outside money into it every year) is bc we have little competition

just1n3, Saturday, 21 December 2019 05:41 (four years ago) link

I always think it's a money laundering front too. xpost

I always liked how Rice to Riches was set up to launder money and then it unexpectedly became a successful business. That was rice pudding was really good. I think there was a pizza place front in blyn too that unexpectedly became really popular too.

Yerac, Sunday, 22 December 2019 15:35 (four years ago) link

I did not know that about Rice to Riches.
Should've guessed something was dodgy; they serve COLD rice pudding.

kinder, Sunday, 22 December 2019 16:00 (four years ago) link

I only like cold rice pudding!

Yerac, Sunday, 22 December 2019 16:25 (four years ago) link

cold rice pudding is extremely common ime

insecurity bear (sic), Sunday, 22 December 2019 19:30 (four years ago) link

especially if not made at home, like nearly any Greek or Turkish or Lebanese takeaway place will have tubs of it in the drinks fridge to grab and go

insecurity bear (sic), Sunday, 22 December 2019 19:33 (four years ago) link

I'm like 94% convinced that our CEO is some sort of warlock who feeds on the cognitive capacity of anyone who works for or with us. As if my dumb ass alone isn't evidence of that theory.

― i was so hungry that i ate a hole cake entirely to myself (Old Lunch)

on december 19, 2019, old lunch discovered the secret of capitalism

Agnes Motörhead (rushomancy), Sunday, 22 December 2019 19:46 (four years ago) link

PLEASE stop your loud + impassioned discussion about the panoply of delicious foodstuffs on the McDonald's menu. PLEASE. Can you seriously not see my soul wrenching itself free from my body?

Drive Like a Demon From Steakhouse to Steakhouse (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 31 December 2019 16:05 (four years ago) link

moving to a new even-more-open office next week— like i think we’re just sitting next to each other at tables or something

stoked for the intimacy

mookieproof, Tuesday, 31 December 2019 16:58 (four years ago) link

I hate it. I hate it so, so much. Like I don't care what point I am in the process, if I'm ever interviewing for a different job and discover that they've been infected with this open office insanity I am OUT.

Drive Like a Demon From Steakhouse to Steakhouse (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 31 December 2019 17:02 (four years ago) link

And almost as if on cue, desk drumming begins from two rows behind me, with an unrestrained force + volume that might almost be comical under other circumstances.

How about instead of an open office we go for soundproofed cages. How about that.

Drive Like a Demon From Steakhouse to Steakhouse (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 31 December 2019 17:14 (four years ago) link

don't move to the UK, pretty much all offices are open offices. I've never worked in one that wasn't. at my current job not even the CEO has their own office. they just sit at a bank of desks next to the one my team sits at

Colonel Poo, Tuesday, 31 December 2019 17:19 (four years ago) link

I'm sure there are more interactive work circumstances where such a layout is beneficial and makes sense but a workspace where people are largely just trying to concentrate on their own shit while contending with a smattering of hosebeasts with inadequate self-control is not among those circumstances.

Drive Like a Demon From Steakhouse to Steakhouse (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 31 December 2019 17:29 (four years ago) link

I doubt it tbh. it's about cost-saving, not making work better. office space costs money

Colonel Poo, Tuesday, 31 December 2019 17:31 (four years ago) link

(Apologies, did not realize the antiquated slang term 'hosebeast' is apparently a gendered insult. Mine is an equal opportunity ire directed at anyone across the spectrum who logs into their work station and proceeds to behave as if they're at a foam party.)

Drive Like a Demon From Steakhouse to Steakhouse (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 31 December 2019 17:34 (four years ago) link

Came in today to teach a 13 person class..five showed up. Seems six of the eight no-shows were pulled from the class (with nobody telling us), two that were terminated (with nobody telling us).

The only reason we had two classes today was because mine was supposed to have 13. We could have just folded this into one class.

looking for Mon in Alderaan places (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 31 December 2019 20:11 (four years ago) link

So the class is now down to two people because they found out four of the six had already taken the class (how nobody figured this out before now is beyond me). Two is below the minimum requirements for a class.

looking for Mon in Alderaan places (Neanderthal), Thursday, 2 January 2020 17:41 (four years ago) link

The only reason I'm salty about it is it's 8 hours of talking, but if they'd told us in advance, we could have had one class and two of us could have shared it, giving me a break now and then.

Also who schedules training around New Years ffs

looking for Mon in Alderaan places (Neanderthal), Thursday, 2 January 2020 17:45 (four years ago) link

moving to a new even-more-open office next week — like i think we’re just sitting next to each other at tables or something

fucking loud in here, and not because anyone in particular is being loud, but just that there are so many people and so little to absorb the sound

at least there's free selzer on tap i guess

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FUCK OFF EPIC GAMES.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Tuesday, 7 January 2020 09:26 (four years ago) link

...sorry this was better for the missent email thread I guess lol

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Tuesday, 7 January 2020 09:26 (four years ago) link

sending out emails with a Keep Calm and Carry On theme, what year is this?

koogs, Tuesday, 7 January 2020 11:23 (four years ago) link

where does neighboring co-worker refusing to use a mousepad rank on the list of crimes?

CLACK.... CLACK... CLAAAAACK

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 14 January 2020 17:22 (four years ago) link

I don't think I've seen a mousepad in about 15 years, do they even exist any more??

Colonel Poo, Tuesday, 14 January 2020 17:23 (four years ago) link

Deicide sells one

papa stank (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 14 January 2020 17:26 (four years ago) link

I'm using a mousepad right now - its filthy

| (Latham Green), Tuesday, 14 January 2020 17:33 (four years ago) link

Someone was trimming their nails in a bathroom stall this morning. Whether fingers or toes, I couldn't say, but at this point I just assume whatever makes the least goddamn sense.

Pizza is Really Yummy for Me (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 14 January 2020 17:39 (four years ago) link

so ppl just scrape the mouse on their desks all day? what a world.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 14 January 2020 17:42 (four years ago) link

I actually use a little blackboard for a mousepad, and have a little tiny nail affixed to the bottom of my mouse. Works beautifully!

Pizza is Really Yummy for Me (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 14 January 2020 17:46 (four years ago) link

i have a mousepad with a picture of a puppy on it and i have a cordless mouse. much better mouse situation than in any of my previous jobs

bidenfan69420 (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 14 January 2020 17:47 (four years ago) link

sorry bit big there

it's after the end of the world (Matt #2), Tuesday, 14 January 2020 17:50 (four years ago) link

I use the trackpad cos i have a lapper

papa stank (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 14 January 2020 17:51 (four years ago) link

Jesus Christ thats huge!

| (Latham Green), Tuesday, 14 January 2020 17:53 (four years ago) link

Thanks I use Extenz

papa stank (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 14 January 2020 17:58 (four years ago) link

lol, stop

Pizza is Really Yummy for Me (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 14 January 2020 17:59 (four years ago) link

Tho at first for some reason I thought it was the mark of the Empire from STar War

| (Latham Green), Tuesday, 14 January 2020 18:56 (four years ago) link

two weeks pass...

(Note: the following phenomenon mostly applies to outside parties rather than coworkers per se but, because these things often slip past coworkers unnoticed before they're routed to me, I am okay with implicating them.)

I never, ever thought I'd see the day that I'd encounter professional adults who lack awareness of the necessary components of a US postal address (i.e. those who fill out the address fields on a form and omit a street address, city, state, zip, or some combination of the above). Now I see that day on most days. And this post was, btw, prompted by encountering two instances of such within the past hour. Do these people receive mail ever? And if so, how?

Dr. Teeth and the Women (Old Lunch), Friday, 31 January 2020 17:20 (four years ago) link

super bizarre lol

surm, Friday, 31 January 2020 17:28 (four years ago) link

These things come from enough different sources all across the country that I'm mostly convinced at this point that I'm just bearing witness to the degradation of the American mind in real time.

Dr. Teeth and the Women (Old Lunch), Friday, 31 January 2020 17:38 (four years ago) link

Okay, sorry, I was too hasty. Make that three instances.

Y'know, it's Friday, maybe I can just go for a drink or four and forget to come back.

Dr. Teeth and the Women (Old Lunch), Friday, 31 January 2020 17:41 (four years ago) link

If the zip's there you probably can leave out the city and state.

nickn, Friday, 31 January 2020 17:46 (four years ago) link

this is probably young people who genuinely aren't familiar with sending mail

don't care didn't ask still clappin (sic), Friday, 31 January 2020 21:57 (four years ago) link

maybe they aren't american?

Yerac, Friday, 31 January 2020 22:03 (four years ago) link

Nah, these things are filled out or at least ostensibly vetted by professionals licensed and working in the US. Traumatic brain injury/liquefication is really the only acceptable explanation.

Dr. Teeth and the Women (Old Lunch), Friday, 31 January 2020 22:44 (four years ago) link

Can't bitch about my annoying co-worker on Facebook rn because of lol work filters but I finally acquired one a few months ago and boy howdy is she a one. Over ten years older than me yet has the mentality of a boy-crazy 15-year-old, total head in the clouds, monopolizes every conversation she's in, has little of consequence to discuss, etc. I'm the type of person who feels like the vast majority of people are intelligent in some way and have things to teach me, but the only thing this woman is teaching me is to value the other people in my life who ARE "intelligent in some way and have things to teach me". Also, she's bizarrely against progress, e.g. when I raved about the Impossible Whopper to my co-workers she immediately jumped in with, "I've got to have meat so I'm not getting anywhere near that!" Like, I'm an omnivore who couldn't give up my beef, poultry, and seafood, but holy fuck you (ESPECIALLY you, annoying co-worker) can lay off on the meat every now and again. Whew, feel better now having typed all that out.

Dee the (Summer-Hating) Lurker (deethelurker), Monday, 3 February 2020 13:51 (four years ago) link

Me: Dear person z who is assigned to manage outside party x, please add contact y in the system so that, in future, we are able to recognize that contact y is affiliated with outside party x. Here is the specific information identifying party x.'

(no response)

(new correspondence received from contact y)

Me: Dear person z, second request, see previous email below containing all the information you need.'

Person z: I am not assigned to party x.

Me: Hmmmm, interesting, the system shows that you actually had an on-site visit with party x two weeks ago.

Person z: Who even is party x, I don't see any information indicating who party x is, where am I, how do I make food go in tummy, so hungy.

Me: (copies and pastes information from initial request, highlights, blows up to 720pt flashing type, hits send, shoots self)

Sammo Hazuki's Tago Mago Cantina (Old Lunch), Friday, 7 February 2020 19:43 (four years ago) link

This is one of those things where I don't know if it's symptomatic of my particular workplace or if I've just worked here so long that I don't realize it's creeped into the culture-at-large, this thing where people will very confidently declare something that's just flat-out and demonstrably wrong without even bothering to spend .025 seconds beforehand to confirm before they make themselves look like utter dipshits. Or am I the dipshit for failing to realize that this (e.g. deflecting responsibility in hopes that people are so exasperated/exhausted that they eventually stop following up or badgering you) is just the new professionalism? That trying is just dumb and lame?

Sammo Hazuki's Tago Mago Cantina (Old Lunch), Friday, 7 February 2020 20:26 (four years ago) link

So my stupid ass did a screen share today forgetting I had an ILX football thread up.

Congrats guys, you're famous.

sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 11 February 2020 17:50 (four years ago) link

Bright side: coulda been wallogina.

Sammo Hazuki's Tago Mago Cantina (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 11 February 2020 17:56 (four years ago) link

'what's that sir? you want me to share the front page of Le Monde? sure, i'll just..'

l e m o n ...

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 11 February 2020 17:57 (four years ago) link

i accidentally screenshared the dinosaurs asteroid thread in a meeting today. they were into it.

closed beta (NotEnough), Tuesday, 11 February 2020 19:45 (four years ago) link

it’s an objectively good thread

Homegrown Georgia speedster Ladd McConkey (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 11 February 2020 19:46 (four years ago) link

lets not bitch abt yr smart and pleasing co-workers

mark s, Tuesday, 11 February 2020 19:52 (four years ago) link

My company is, among other things, an HR outsourcing firm, so we build call centers for clients that don't want to handle their own benefits recordkeeping. This part of our business has been suffering for probably a decade. Because of the terrible cuts we made to training over the years, people got frustrated and began leaving in droves. So our representative base is rather green and has little veteran leadership to learn from and they're entrusted with processing things like 401k withdrawals and distributions, which of course, due to training cuts and having no veteran help, they routinely screw up, and it costs us buckets of money each time.

we also have service level fees for calls answered that we are struggling to meet, but the reason our clients are leaving is mostly because our quality sucks. we were once an industry leader, now....we're a joke.

Anyway, their solution to this problem was to cut our already too-short trainings from 4.5 days to 4 on these complex topics. and, the kicker, to start piling high volumes of warm bodies (50+) into a class, from a third-party partner location whose technology cannot handle our servers on a routine basis, and it's being done entirely virtually. And the person they gave to teach the class with me has never handled 401(k) before and does not know it, and is working entirely from his guide. He's a great trainer, but I don't care how great you are, if you teach a topic you don't know...

*time to update resume*.

what can I do that won't get me fired but might put me to the top of the 'layoff' list?

sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 12 February 2020 17:16 (four years ago) link

cos we get 2 weeks for every eyar of service, that'd be 30 weeks for me. but I'm afraid if I wait until the company finally folds, which seems inevitable, they'll go bankrupt and not be able to pay me any severance.

sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 12 February 2020 17:17 (four years ago) link

Ahh, those days of youthful innocence, when I didn't strongly suspect on a daily basis that the people in charge were involved in some elaborate Producers-esque scheme to ensure the failure of their chosen enterprise.

Sammo Hazuki's Tago Mago Cantina (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 12 February 2020 17:24 (four years ago) link

moved to a new office location last month; the new space has new chairs, which look nice but offer no back support at all -- like if you lean back, you just keep going until you hit about 45°, and there's no way to lock them

lots of people complained, myself among them

company's response is that it will order aeron chairs for people who want them -- but will only pay for them if you can provide a doctor's note saying that you *need* back support. otherwise you can pay $1000 out of pocket for one

no other outside chairs will be allowed, for the sake of 'conformity'

i can get a doctor's note, i'm sure, but the whole thing is fucking stupid

mookieproof, Wednesday, 12 February 2020 17:30 (four years ago) link

That is really fucking dumb.

I can't sit in one of those chairs without locking ability but fuck a doctor note

sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 12 February 2020 18:09 (four years ago) link

Get as many doctor notes as possible from across the business and submit/

lefal junglist platton (wtev), Wednesday, 12 February 2020 20:58 (four years ago) link

my old building said that those yoga ball chairs weren't allowed, everyone just ignored it and did it anyway.

You should just jimmy-rig a standing desk and use the chair to put your knee on.

Yerac, Wednesday, 12 February 2020 21:04 (four years ago) link

moved to a new office location last month; the new space has new chairs, which look nice but offer no back support at all -- like if you lean back, you just keep going until you hit about 45°, and there's no way to lock them

lots of people complained, myself among them

company's response is that it will order aeron chairs for people who want them -- but will only pay for them if you can provide a doctor's note saying that you *need* back support. otherwise you can pay $1000 out of pocket for one

no other outside chairs will be allowed, for the sake of 'conformity'

i can get a doctor's note, i'm sure, but the whole thing is fucking stupid


Holy fucking shit is that a dumb thing to do. Decent office chairs aren't even really that expensive if you're buying them in bulk but boy do they make a difference when it comes to productivity and overall worker satisfaction. Also, thank goodness my workplace allows you to purchase your own ~fancier~ office chair if you wish.

We Live as We Dee, Alone (deethelurker), Thursday, 13 February 2020 01:11 (four years ago) link

Just...I mean...why do I have to tell a professional adult, why do I actually need to spell out the fact, that a person's name written in a cursive font in an unlocked and editable Word document does not suffice when a signature is required? Just...fucking...why.

Sammo Hazuki's Tago Mago Cantina (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 18 February 2020 15:01 (four years ago) link

Because signing a Word document is stupid and makes no sense?

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 18 February 2020 21:19 (four years ago) link

I got scheduled to do basically a month's worth of training for this special client. This morning, I was told I needed to submit to a background check with them to lead this training - separate from the background check I already did for my own company.

I know in some industries where there are client relationships, this isn't unusual, but for our company, it is. I have a clean report, but I object to having to subject to a second one.

then after hemming and hawing about this for hours, it turns out we were only told this because the manager who requested the training misunderstood that we were going to use his client's own unique systems, which we're not. which we never agreed to do.

dumb.

sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Thursday, 20 February 2020 22:09 (four years ago) link

I've encountered a multitude of variants that approximated the same, but today marks the first time I've full-on encountered someone asking essentially 'please advise on how I should undertake [task that I somehow do not realize is an essential and unambiguous part of my own job and that I should be deeply ashamed and possibly even tossed into an active volcano for asking you how to do]'.

I genuinely do not know how to respond without utilizing the phrase 'fucking idiot'. Help.

Expart of Languidge (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 13:57 (four years ago) link

To be clear: this is a manager in a department completely separate from mine. Our job duties abut but do not overlap. And, perhaps most essentially, when I see that the task in question needs to be completed in order for me to do my job, I send a request to these specific managers so that they can do the thing. Because it's their job to know how to do the thing and then do it.

Expart of Languidge (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 14:00 (four years ago) link

Me: Please add this thing that is missing in that record.
Dipshit: (five minutes later) It looks like it's already there?
Me: (checks, sees timestamp revealing that the thing has been added since I sent the request, full-on blasts self in face with keyboard 4-5 times)

WHAT AN UNSOLVED MYSTERY, I AM OVERCOME WITH SUPERNATURAL VIBES RN

Every fucken day with this shit. Every fucken day.

Expart of Languidge (Old Lunch), Thursday, 27 February 2020 16:48 (four years ago) link

if it's me, i'm responding with "yes, looks like it was just added four minutes ago" including screen cap of the file w timestamp.

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 27 February 2020 18:38 (four years ago) link

I used to engage in such petty fripperies but the momentary self-satisfaction was never enough to offset the fact that I was clearly the only party in that exchange who GAF.

Expart of Languidge (Old Lunch), Thursday, 27 February 2020 19:04 (four years ago) link

lol I still do mostly just to tell the other person "ok, i see u"

sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Thursday, 27 February 2020 19:15 (four years ago) link

i find that shit only gets worse if you don't call it out as early as possible.

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 27 February 2020 20:15 (four years ago) link

it does amuse me when people seem to forget things are timestamped/logged. the security manager at my firm ten years ago said a handful of our own people used customer information to apply for credit cards and things thinking there was no way it could be tracked, until they wound up in the office getting terminated and referred to the police.

two of them even stole a ladies pension benefit in collusion with a trust contact but were easily discovered because they left a heavy electronic trail - got perp walked out the door by police minutes before I got back from lunch that day.

sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Thursday, 27 February 2020 20:18 (four years ago) link

that sucks you missed the perp walk.

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 27 February 2020 20:28 (four years ago) link

Works both ways. At my last job, a coworker's manager was gunning to get rid of her (for reasons that were entirely personal, as far as anyone could tell) and on the day she finally got the boot for supposedly falsifying her timesheet, she asked me on her way out (because I had access to the pertinent systems) to see if I could find logs of her activity for the supposedly-falsified time in question. And sure enough, there it was. Because, see, her manager had checked the security records to confirm that she hadn't beeped through the turnstile on that Saturday afternoon...without bothering to check if she'd done work from home. And so they sheepishly had to rehire her and she subsequently split on her own terms and sued them for wrongful termination.

The moral: abject stupidity runs rampant through every stratum of the American workforce.

Expart of Languidge (Old Lunch), Thursday, 27 February 2020 20:29 (four years ago) link

That's fucked. Anytime I thought I found evidence of malfeasance, I always made sure to look at every alternative explanation first before assuming the worst.

sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Thursday, 27 February 2020 20:44 (four years ago) link

A colleague of mine almost got one of our client's employees fired once. I don't remember what it was about, but this employee was suspected of something or other, but they insisted they said something on this call that absolved them. Again, don't remember what.

So this colleague goes to pull the call but pulls the wrong one. Doesn't notice that the company the caller states she works for is wrong, gave a name completely different than the employee, DOB doesn't match. All these obvious clues. So she reports to our client that the employee didn't say what they alleged they said, and almost termed the person until they insisted our rep must have listened to the wrong call and begged our client to re-review.

Fortunately someone else did and almost immediately it confirmed the employees' version of things, and our relationship with the client was damaged by the ordeal.

sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Thursday, 27 February 2020 20:51 (four years ago) link

One of our classes I teach has a set sign-up process. We rarely have issues with it.

However, this week, a bunch of leaders who don't typically get involved in the sign-up process decided to stick their noses in and gum up the works. Working with the team managers, they came up with a huge list of employees who need to be trained, but somehow botched the communication on who was supposed to sign them up.

So yesterday, one manager asks why six of her employees didn't get training invites, only to find out nobody actually signed them up. We fixed that and got them enrolled. No big deal.

Then, one of the Operations Leaders kept telling us throughout the week that she was going to submit more names, only to not send any. So we finally message her on our chat client on Wednesday to ask "look do you have names or not?". She then gives us five names, but tells us they will come over on the sign-up sheet that night, so to hold off signing them up until then, just in case plans changed. Rather than letting us just do it right then. Of course, nothing comes over that night, so I don't know if that means if they no longer need training or if someone just forgot again.

So I ask her yesterday "hey, these specific five people, do they still need to be signed up?", only for her to give an answer that was neither affirmation or denial, just "anybody who is supposed to attend should have been signed up already". Given the previous fuck-ups, I wrote back and asked her to please confirm if the *five people I specifically named* needed to be signed up, yes or no. Day goes by, no reply.

So naturally, the manager of one of the five learners who I've been trying to confirm needed to be signed up for a day and a half messages us asking why this student didn't get an invite. so the week is out and we still aren't clear on the official final roster for a class that starts Tuesday.

sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Saturday, 29 February 2020 04:04 (four years ago) link

they also laid my friend off today, one of the few members that was able to keep one of our most difficult clients happy. the other managers on that client have all but given up home on retaining them.

you'd think that might have saved her job, but nope.

sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Saturday, 29 February 2020 04:06 (four years ago) link

A coworker who isn't stupid or annoying forwarded me an exchange between her manager and the stupid annoying fuckstick I've bitched about 315 times itt.

Manager: Why did you, a person we know is a full-on moron who always does shit he shouldn't do, do this thing you did and that you shouldn't have done?
Fuckstick: Hmm, I don't know why I would have done that thing I very clearly did. You should ask Coworker about why I did that.
Manager: Coworker, why did Fuckstick to this thing he did and that he shouldn't have done? P.S. Absolutely nothing in the file indicates that you've ever had anything to do with this account. Not sure why I'm asking you about it at all except that Fuckstick said I should. Sure hope he never tells me to walk into traffic!

They find new ways to surprise me, every day.

Waifu-ed Around and Fell in Love (Old Lunch), Monday, 9 March 2020 18:13 (four years ago) link

i used to be the 'subject matter expert' on a couple of things where I worked and people would always unnecessarily add me to random meetings on completely non-relevant to me things. And then they would totally call me out to ask me questions about someone else's department, of which they were the subject matter expert, while that person was also. on. the. call.

Yerac, Monday, 9 March 2020 18:23 (four years ago) link

We are forced to run all of our programs through a remote connection, for some reason. The remote install of Acrobat just stopped working about half an hour ago. 99% of the work files I handle are pdfs. I was already hustling to make up for the three hours of work time I lost yesterday when our systems went down completely (not unusual, as I understand they went down for a cumulative seven hours when I was out of the office on Friday). I am going to sit here and twiddle my thumbs until my workday is over. Because, y'know, fuck this absolute joke of a workplace.

(I guess this is an indirect indictment of our stupid, annoying IT personnel, who I only really know from their exemplary reputation as dick-tripping tech wizards.)

Waifu-ed Around and Fell in Love (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 10 March 2020 19:07 (four years ago) link

one of my coworkers was using both printers to do huge jobs while also having a bubble tea sitting on one of the printers yesterday. very confounding

COVID and the Gang (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 10 March 2020 19:12 (four years ago) link

(the two long jobs were non-urgent, nobody has beverages in the printer room ever)

COVID and the Gang (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 10 March 2020 19:12 (four years ago) link

Instant beheading for that

sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 10 March 2020 23:48 (four years ago) link

I swear to fucking god. So, I order some civil rights A/V material for a program the students are putting on, and this bitch who is not even my boss was overheard throwing a massive tantrum about it. Because, uh...the material made her uncomfortable. And rumor has it had to do with an alleged discrimination complaint against her, and my association with this group makes her look bad.

Then another faculty member asks me to buy an expensive Japanese CD, and some other asshole disrespects me and asks me why I bought it. Because I was ASKED to buy it, you unprofessional dickface. Just because you play in some band no one cares about doesn't mean you have the right to condescend.

Did I mention that Mr. Condescension and Ms. Ill Temper are friends?

Two words for you : "Bite Down" (I M Losted), Monday, 16 March 2020 11:48 (four years ago) link

Did I mention that Mr. Condescension and Ms. Ill Temper are friends?

Why am I not surprised? Anyway, godspeed to you for working with two such "prizes", and I really hope someone local to you treats you to some potent potables (or whatever else makes life better for you).

We Live as We Dee, Alone (deethelurker), Monday, 16 March 2020 12:29 (four years ago) link

Thank you. The faculty seem to hate them, but every time there's a bad apple at work, the people in the immediate vicinity do nothing.

It just dawned on me that maybe they're just jealous because I know a lot of the faculty.

Two words for you : "Bite Down" (I M Losted), Monday, 16 March 2020 12:51 (four years ago) link

Omfg we hired a guy a few months back. I can’t begin to describe how awful he is. Basically doesn’t do jackshit. And what he does, he does all wrong. Have to correct his mistakes. Fucking awful. And just disregards all the rules.

nathom, Monday, 16 March 2020 21:04 (four years ago) link

today I had one learner in my class who started interrupting me every 2 minutes, then took 30 minutes to do an assignment correctly while not listening to my instructions.

put me so far behind. but....all of us are stressed, so I just pretended it was no big deal.

and then asked my boss for Wednesday afternoon off to just....decompress.

sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Monday, 16 March 2020 21:40 (four years ago) link

ffs now the office is closed, my email is just constantly pinging with idiots emailing the entire fucking company with their witty anecdotes about working from home. FUCK OFF

Colonel Poo, Tuesday, 17 March 2020 10:00 (four years ago) link

Dear fellow employees I am overhearing in a conversation right now about not wanting to follow anyone's orders about sheltering in place re: Covid-19, with your "not being afraid" and "it doesn't matter to me, I'm healthy and young": do you want what's happening right now in China and Italy to happen? Because that's how you get what's happening right now in China and Italy to happen. I am not going to confront them about this because to do so would be exceptionally unprofessional and create an antagonistic work environment, so thankfully there's this thread wherein I can vent. BTW, if we do end up enacting a San Francisco-style "shelter in place" order in my city, you better fucking believe I'll obey it because I'm not a dick and would actually like the whole "flattening the curve" thing to happen.

We Live as We Dee, Alone (deethelurker), Tuesday, 17 March 2020 13:11 (four years ago) link

wait til next week when this will just serve as a thread about seinfeldeaque observations about all of our partners/families/housemates

BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Tuesday, 17 March 2020 14:14 (four years ago) link

I'll prefer that to the dire daily news

sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 17 March 2020 14:18 (four years ago) link

xp and pets, don’t forget those of us beset by small cats crying because they want to get into the attic

gramsci in your surplice (gyac), Tuesday, 17 March 2020 14:19 (four years ago) link

my home coworker, who is a cat, has now been exposed as a food grifter. if i am working from the dining room table and see you snack on food every half hour, i am no longer going to believe you're starving when you yowl at me at 5pm

mh, Tuesday, 17 March 2020 15:33 (four years ago) link

I’m not looking forward to the one benefit of this, not having to get up at 6 anymore, being taken away from me by the attic-crier kneading us both until one of us gets up to feed her. Sometimes she does this and suddenly isn’t hungry!

gramsci in your surplice (gyac), Tuesday, 17 March 2020 15:37 (four years ago) link

My coworker today (18 year old with cancelled Uni classes) is awesome. He stayed in his bed all morning then made me a coffee.

Non, je ned raggette rien (onimo), Tuesday, 17 March 2020 15:40 (four years ago) link

again

thats not unlike my normal routine tbh

BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Tuesday, 17 March 2020 15:42 (four years ago) link

Guess I'll just comment on my co-workers then since I seem to be in the increasingly rarer numbers still going into work. Except work hasn't been that bad lately and the execs even sent us lots of coffee and doughnuts this morning to boost our morale. (in a quiet voice) Plus I'm in a supervisory role here so I feel awful about bitching about my co-workers for all but the most boneheaded reasons. (exunt quiet voice mode)

We Live as We Dee, Alone (deethelurker), Tuesday, 17 March 2020 15:47 (four years ago) link

I can tell my trainees are distracted today. I'm being friendly and nurturing as I can, because ultimately, this thing I'm training them on just doesn't matter in the scheme of things

sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 17 March 2020 18:05 (four years ago) link

Plus it's for a client that is an evil financial institution

sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 17 March 2020 18:05 (four years ago) link

My company, a UK based high street clothes retailer, is launching a sale on Thursday in an attempt to drive footfall and profit. Wildly irresponsible.

boxedjoy, Tuesday, 17 March 2020 18:25 (four years ago) link

God I am trying so hard right now with all that is going on. I'm not getting mad when people don't listen. Or when people interrupt me or don't follow directions.

But at a time when my nerves are already shot...when this one learner who is supposed to be a VETERAN is CONSTANTLY stopping me to ask things that I already answered. Or to insist things aren't working for her even though they are working for everybody else, and after you try three times to get her to coherently explain what's happening, she can't.

Can't remember her Skype password to screenshare there. Can't figure out how to do it in WebEx teams even with me literally giving every instruction in ridiculously overexplained fashion after three times.

I can't use my virtual session to do it because then I have to take down the instructions that I'm sharing.

It took everything to say JESUS CHRIST I AM FUCKING AT MY WIT'S END AS IT IS AND YOU'RE MAKING MY WAKING HOURS HELL!!!!

sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 17 March 2020 20:27 (four years ago) link

This is a class that normally lasts 24 hours and I was given fucking 14!

sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 17 March 2020 20:27 (four years ago) link

My company, a UK based high street clothes retailer, is launching a sale on Thursday in an attempt to drive footfall and profit. Wildly irresponsible.

I've been getting more vouchers than I have for months! Today's vouchers: another one for a free eye test, or 40% off lunch at the not v appealing Beefeater on the other side of town. I feel bad abt places seeing a reduction in custom but, no

a passing spacecadet, Tuesday, 17 March 2020 20:35 (four years ago) link

I suggested to my boss last week that we encourage online shopping by doing an online-only sale. She agreed. I got the draft of the email announcement, and it said something like “we don’t want to discourage shopping in store” and I was like, please PLEASE take that out, it is bad and also makes us look terrible. Amazingly, she agreed.

The email went out yesterday morning and then the shelter-in-place came just a few hours later so our stores are closed for at least 3 weeks.

just1n3, Tuesday, 17 March 2020 21:02 (four years ago) link

Our online store is not popular so I’m not sure I’ll still have a job in 3 weeks. My boss is trying to sell the business to the PM and the PM let me know she found out after looking at the books that business hasn’t made any money in YEARS. My boss has been loaning the business money (she owns rental properties, remortgaged her house multiple times) to keep it going.

just1n3, Tuesday, 17 March 2020 21:06 (four years ago) link

ouch - good luck, just1n3, but also good job and good timing talking her round re the mailout

a passing spacecadet, Tuesday, 17 March 2020 21:14 (four years ago) link

I typically do well at annual review time, have consistently gotten an "Excels" rating for 9 consecutive years. Began reading the annual review summary my new boss was sharing with me during the one on one, and it appeared I was well on my way to a 10th. Comments were mostly raves, there was no actual negative feedback or specific area of improvement.

Get to the end, it's the lowest rating I've ever had in 15 years, only the second time I got a "Meets Expectations". I was baffled. I got an "Excels" last year despite doing much less impressive work in 2018. Last year I voluntarily traveled to the Philippines to oversee 12 concurrent training classes, San Juan (on less than a week's notice for an impromptu two week class), voluntarily learned and immediately began teaching a new platform (becoming only the 2nd person licensed to teach it), acquired the access to update internal system materials that had been needed for TEN YEARS but had never been done, and was one of the most prominent participants in the training material redevelopment project.

it was, as is always, bureaucracy. our bosses can't give us direct ratings, it's calibrated at the leadership level, so all bosses in our division present their employee and recommended rating, and leadership either approves or denies it, and they also set caps on how many people can get each rating in each division, so I'm fairly sure they saved the "Excels" for other "more important" roles.

so that was the only chance of me getting any incentive pay which would have been helpful given what's going on. so the message to me is "do the bare minimum from here on out".

OK! will do!

sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Thursday, 19 March 2020 15:52 (four years ago) link

a fairly pointless thing to get worked up over rn but w/e. i'm going to pretend the only reason I got the lower score was for saying "motherfucker" on a hot mic, that's easier to live with.

sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Thursday, 19 March 2020 15:53 (four years ago) link

When I was a manager doing ratings, we were only allowed a minimal number of excels vs meets. Definitely forced us into a position where people doing good work got penalized for no reason other than available budget.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Thursday, 19 March 2020 15:57 (four years ago) link

yep same thing here. I can tell having friends in higher places in past years before I switched depts probably played more of a role than I realized.

so I'm wondering how I managed to get the higher rating at all last year, considering I did not get along with the boss that did that review at all, to the point where we had to have meetings to clear the air.

sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Thursday, 19 March 2020 16:00 (four years ago) link

they also set caps on how many people can get each rating in each division

An old workplace of mine tried to bring this in. it's appalling.

It sucks. I had a colleague quit over the finer details of the review process.

kinder, Thursday, 19 March 2020 18:08 (four years ago) link

I guess our developers are real real bored sitting at home because they went in on a whim overnight and completely overhauled the layout of one of my essential work apps such that a search function that used to display all information on a single handy screen like so:

Business Name DBA
Street Address
City State Zip Etc.

Now displays everything like this:

Business Name



DBA



Etc.

Forcing everyone to scroll endlessly to find information that we used to be able to see at a quick glance. This is a thing I have to consult dozens, sometimes 100+ times/day, and which has remained the same for years, which allows for a lot of mental shorthand and eliminates a lot of cognitive effort on my part. And my work is already slowed way down, working at home on a tiny laptop screen (down from two big desktop monitors). I'm fuuuuuuuurious.

Unparalleled Elegance (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 25 March 2020 12:24 (four years ago) link

JESUS CHRIST STOP REPLYING ALL ON EVERY FUCKING EMAIL YOU MORONS

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 26 March 2020 16:47 (four years ago) link

CC: All

sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Thursday, 26 March 2020 17:07 (four years ago) link

After yesterday's fiasco, my class seems fried. I feel bad subjecting them to my braying today.

sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Thursday, 26 March 2020 17:08 (four years ago) link

one month passes...

I've been working with one particular freelance client for 20+ years and something happened today that beats all for unprofessionalism. She hired this livestock photographer to shoot all the year-end award presentations for a nonprofit she runs; the awards section runs 20+ pages in the May issue of her magazine. This goddamn dumbass photographer moved all the pics he shot to his laptop and then overwrote the SD cards with subsequent jobs rather than putting those cards aside; AND he doesn't have any data backup protocol for his laptop. Of course, he lost every fucking thing, including official backdrop photos for 2 or 3 other shows and pasture shots from a couple of ranches. ugghhhh so mad right now

herds of unmasked cletuses (WmC), Wednesday, 29 April 2020 18:04 (four years ago) link

Geez. So does that mean the magazine article is scrubbed?

genital giant (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 29 April 2020 18:52 (four years ago) link

No, we'll do the award recipients without pictures, and the rest of the section will be as usual (sponsor and donor recognition mostly). But the nonprofit is a junior livestock association, and the parents who bankroll their kids' participation like to see their babies' pictures in the glossy color mag. It's going to hurt signups for 2021 after a year that's already full of lower turnout and cancelled shows. My client went ahead with publishing this issue instead of doing a 1 or 2 issue hiatus based on the photographer's assurances that his computer guys were hard at work getting that data back. If she'd gotten the straight dope from the photographer a month ago and gone with a hiatus, I could have been getting some of that independent contractor unemployment. But what was a 72-page issue last year will probably be 32-40 pages this year, and my billing is tied roughly to issue size.

herds of unmasked cletuses (WmC), Wednesday, 29 April 2020 19:18 (four years ago) link

they pulled me from my 19-day class with another person to have me lead a 3 day on my own. I was afraid this person would lose track of the clock and put us further behind, but she'd taught the class several times before, and I had no choice, so w/e....

she lets me know end of day today where she left off, which is about 6 hours behind, and tomorrow is the last day, with no sense of concern that that leaves next to a zero chance of finishing tomorrow, and we can't extend class, and the time to have raised the alarm to leadership was like 3 days ago.

I had to spend an extra half hour mocking up a schedule that cut several unessential things and gutted the time on others and hope like hell we can meet it, which isn't a given.

thankful I'm taking Friday off.

genital giant (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 29 April 2020 23:12 (four years ago) link

I've become a more peaceful person in quarantine. Being removed from a situation where some think lying is justifiable or even an art form has done wonders for my self-esteem. Not to mention I'm sleeping better at night now that I don't have to spend time around people who have no sense of boundaries.

Alpha 666, The Number of the Beast (I M Losted), Thursday, 30 April 2020 06:39 (four years ago) link

I reported a server error in our QC environment on December 17th, 2019. Aka, something that usually took 5 minutes of scanning the error logs in GUI, and resolving whatever issue. Except this time, they claimed the logs were clean. So they told me tell them next time it happened, which was early January, and this time they found something in the logs, and said they were looking into it.

It is now May, and they have nothing to report, even though we've been consistently reporting a QC environment that barely works for six months, which keeps wrecking our training classes. The QA environment also started developing the same problem, basically meaning we don't have a working test environment to use in class for hours/days at a time

what....the....fuck? I about had enough today and said I was tired of getting bitched at by trainees who aren't willing to accept "they're looking into it" day after day for three weeks.

genital giant (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 5 May 2020 22:00 (four years ago) link

lol i just got a comment on a jira ticket filed in june 2018

'because we're now migrating to a new cms, we will not be devoting resources to address this issue'

fair enough! sometimes if you ignore a problem for long enough, it ceases to matter

mookieproof, Wednesday, 6 May 2020 01:20 (four years ago) link

haha somebody was psyched to be able to close that ticket with a clear conscience

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 6 May 2020 01:23 (four years ago) link

lol that reminds me of

"hey wanted to see if u r still having issue"

follow ups, hoping you'll say "nah it fixed itself" so they can close the ticket

genital giant (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 6 May 2020 01:41 (four years ago) link

I'm on the other end of those, and sorry guys, our management and current work doesn't care about that issue until it gets mentioned in a management meeting

:(

mh, Wednesday, 6 May 2020 03:05 (four years ago) link

Ha yeah I often get rebuffed on feature requests with "well we're likely moving to a new system soon so theres no point".

But like, if you've been saying this since 2015 and NOTHING HAS CHANGED, cmon man.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Wednesday, 6 May 2020 03:39 (four years ago) link

Also:
"hey wanted to see if u r still having issue"

follow ups, hoping you'll say "nah it fixed itself" so they can close the ticket

I am guilty of this, esp with mobile faults on monday mornings. Did it fix over the weekend? most likely.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Wednesday, 6 May 2020 03:40 (four years ago) link

My boss laid off almost all staff 2 months ago except for me and two seamstresses who don’t speak a lot of English. After 2 months of being the sole focus of her chaotic energy, I’m losing my mind. The last few years have been less stressful bc I had a coworker who was v interested in buying the business and took the brunt of my boss’ weirdness. I’d forgotten how bad it can get.

Here are some examples of the whiplash I deal with regularly:

“Our strength lies in offering so many colors” ——> “we really need to limit the amount of colors available in a style”

“We offer too many styles, the stores are cluttered” —-> “lets make 20 variations of the same garment instead of just perfecting it the first time”

“We need to get rid of our store in San Francisco, it’s too expensive” ——> “scale of economies!”

“This is the summer palette” —-> “actually lets drop that color” —-> “actually lets bring that color back” —-> “nah get rid of it” —-> “wait maybe you could make more like {shows me a sample that is a fabric nothing like we make, in a color so rich I clearly can’t replicate it considering the dyes I work with}”

My favorite recurring argument is about our store windows:
Me: Windows are free advertising. They need to be more eye catching. Ours are too beige and nothing stands out
Her: it doesn’t matter. Everyone looks at windows. You don’t need to catch attention
Me: we should dye a couple pairs of pants in brighter colors just for the store windows, bc it’ll help with contrast
Her: but then ppl will see the bright colors in the windows and come in to buy them
Me:......
Me:?!?!?
Her: I don’t you to dye pants in bright colors for instore stock bc nobody buys them
Me: *punches self in face*

just1n3, Thursday, 14 May 2020 09:13 (four years ago) link

are you making things to order anyway cos of reduced frequency of trade?
I mean would seem to be overkill to make so much more stuff.
BUt that's presumably what you're saying anyway.
Though if you drop in production does that mean the last few staff are in danger of being fired if tehy're not seen to be active all the time?

interested actually are you getting a lot of walk in trade now? NOt really been around places like clothing shops cos i think most of them are closed here and the only open ones are departments of larger shops.

Stevolende, Thursday, 14 May 2020 10:29 (four years ago) link

Our stores are closed till June at least but our online traffic has increased x 10. What’s annoying is that she’s been nagging me to fill the stores for weeks, and I’m like, why?? If I fill the stores now, we run out of undyed stock, she really can’t afford to buy fabric right now, so let’s be judicious until we actually know for sure when the stores are opening.

I normally do online orders as dyed-to-order but we’re doing too much business for that so I’ve pulled a lot of stock from our 3 stores, which she’s also giving me whiplash over - one minute she agrees with me that we should be utilizing the stores’ stock for online sales, the next she’s going on about how the stores need to be ready for opening at any moment.

The last 3 of us a safe unless she loses the business.

just1n3, Thursday, 14 May 2020 17:15 (four years ago) link

Once again, stupid managers enrolled students who didn't meet the minimum criteria to take my class...into my class. The class they should have been enrolled into is one week longer. I can't squeeze 5 days of extra info into a schedule that's already full, so... they're pretty much lost.

The managers know. They are playing dumb.

genital giant (Neanderthal), Thursday, 14 May 2020 17:46 (four years ago) link

We pay hundreds of thousands of dollars in penalty fees per year due to undertrained representatives misprocessing 401(k) transactions.

Clearly the solution to this is to train 5 people who have never used our systems before on 401(k), and cut the hours of the system training from 40 to 8, and to assign me to prepare for this class on a day's notice while I'm simultaneously leading another class and can't work OT.

This won't blow up at all.

genital giant (Neanderthal), Friday, 15 May 2020 16:47 (three years ago) link

We've got an ongoing problem with our coworker that processes all of our invoices and paperwork. She is just constitutionally unable to wait a reasonable amount of time for anything to get reviewed or moved forward, the second it hits her inbox she just HAS to get it out of her court as fast as imaginable. She's efficient, but it also creates unnecessary stress on everyone. It's been a known issue and our boss has talked to her about it before, but it's gotten so much worse while we are working from home. As an example, a consultant emailed her an invoice at 10:14 this morning. She attached the pay requisition form that I need to to sign and sent it to me for review and signature at 10:18. At the time I was on a zoom call for another project. She emailed me at 10:28 asking me if I had a chance to review it yet, again at 10:45 asking if there were problems with it, yet again at 10:55 asking me why I didn't approve it yet and finally CALLED me at 11:05 to ask why it wasn't done yet. It's infuriating.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 15 May 2020 16:53 (three years ago) link

I am that person, except I never send the emails or call, I just sit on my couch stewing.

but also fuck you (unperson), Friday, 15 May 2020 17:12 (three years ago) link

Last 2 posts summing up this lockdown shit. Unconscionable drain on people's wellbeing.

lefal junglist platton (wtev), Saturday, 16 May 2020 20:12 (three years ago) link

I feel like my company's acquiescence to our clients' concerns that the "quality of our customer service will decline" or the "service levels will suffer" is such stupidity. What call center is anybody calling right now where your first impression is "wow, they really are at the top of their game"?

don't see what it's going to help if you throw a bunch of already stressed out people who aren't used to working from home onto the phone with a third of the training they were supposed to get, knowing if they quit they won't get unemployment.

I am a free. I am not man. A number. (Neanderthal), Saturday, 16 May 2020 20:18 (three years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Had to report a data privacy violation for the first time in my career here today because some motherfucking idiot supplied sample documentation for our training materials. instead of properly redacting the materials, or supplying fictitious customer data from a test environment, they submitted actual customer data/applications with their private data only obscured with a REMOVABLE TAG that said "Confidential". anybody can delete these tags, and sometimes they disappear when you scroll fast, making visible the customer's data.

None of us internally on this project are authorized to see customer data from this client, and we've also now just shared it with a third party, basically breaching this customer's privacy.

motherfucking MORONS.

I am a free. I am not man. A number. (Neanderthal), Friday, 5 June 2020 19:16 (three years ago) link

they used Pop-Up tags. all you have to do is click and drag it out of the way, and boom, customer's info exposed.

first higher-up I reported to seemed to not care. why even have a Data Privacy policy in place if we don't care about enforcing it. fuck.

I am a free. I am not man. A number. (Neanderthal), Friday, 5 June 2020 19:25 (three years ago) link

so I told them I will not be doing any more review of these documents and am deleting the ones I inadvertently d/led

I am a free. I am not man. A number. (Neanderthal), Friday, 5 June 2020 19:26 (three years ago) link

i'm sort of impressed how bad people are at social distancing rules. for example, at work there is a small room that lots of people use that has been decreed to be single occupancy to allow for social distancing. there is also an even smaller entry area into this room. so naturally, while the room is occupied, people waiting to use it just stand around in the entry area and take off their masks so they can have a good conversation.

circles, Tuesday, 16 June 2020 04:22 (three years ago) link

four weeks pass...

"Hey Neanderthal and Other Dummy, one of our trainers is sick today. Can you both fill in for him and take over?"
"Sure. Other Dummy and I can figure out how to split up."
"Absolutely. Let me know when you want to touch base, Neanderthal."
"Do you know what he's teaching, Other Dummy? Looks like the Core curriculum?"
"Not 100% sure but I think that's correct! Looks like it is core."
"Ok, I got confirmation he's on Day 6 of Core! We can discuss how to split up the clas-"
"oh I can't actually help with the class, Neanderthal. I have meetings all day."
...

"THEN WHY THE FUCK DIDN'T YOU JUST SAY THAT RATHER THAN WASTING 20 MINUTES OF MY TIME?"

I hear that sometimes Satan wants to defund police (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 14 July 2020 15:26 (three years ago) link

three weeks pass...

oh sure, tell me I'm going to be only 'supervising' this year's Open Enrollment at the Philippines location, then assume that I now have all this extra capacity to lead training classes, load me up with them, then drop the bomb on me at 5 pm last Friday that the person who reports to me can't report to me next week. which now leaves nobody to prep trainers for a class totaling 100 people.

I'ma make them solve it as I don't have the mental energy to play Schedule Tetris rn

popeye's arse (Neanderthal), Monday, 10 August 2020 19:49 (three years ago) link

more an amusing one, but my co-worker who has worked with me for two years and sees my name on a daily basis prepared a slide for our training today with our pics, and she butchered my last name in the caption underneath so badly it was comical. not a typo or anything, she outright left 3 letters out of it.

tempted to sign my emails this way now.

popeye's arse (Neanderthal), Thursday, 13 August 2020 23:10 (three years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Trainers during activities are supposed to send their learners login credentials for our test Console, plus a specific replication number for each dummy account, so that everybody can be in the same account at the same time without locking each other out. We send them a template that they can forward as-is, with their only job filling in the blanks next to each replication number with the name of a learner.

One trainer inexplicably sent her own custom email with just the replication numbers and no login data. A few days later, I found out she was giving them wrong instructions. The learners were all supposed to use the same login credentials and password (let's say for example login: ABC123, pw: youandme). and then when they search for a customer's name, they add the three digit replication number on the end.

She had them changing the last three characters of the login to match the replication number. so if the learner's replication number was 105, she had them logging in as ABC105. which of course didn't work.

So I explained to her the mistake she was making two weeks ago, with screenshots, and a detailed explanation. She replies "got it, so sorry about that!", and no further comments. We have about 15 classes and I'm not really in charge of observing them, I just happened to be on her email last time, so since then I haven't given it another thought.

Today, she sends another email, telling us the logins don't work. She's giving them the same wrong instructions again....two weeks later.

How in the....f.......

Neanderthal, Tuesday, 8 September 2020 19:39 (three years ago) link

today, we had a global issue with a tool. boss's boss found it amusing because we were having similar issues a year earlier, so she copied and pasted the issue's summary from an email from last year, with the lead in "<Tool> issue, from last year". The summary she copied had both an identification of the root cause AND instructions for what action we should take. she made zero distinction that this was a c&p from a year old email until more than two hours later.

So naturally, in context, it appeared that she was telling us "this is the solution to your issue, similar to the issue we had last year", and giving us instructions to cascade. so I abandoned calling in to escalate the existing ticket, and merely gave this update to our instructors. even told her I'd done this afterward! no correction.

like why unnecessarily confuse us like that by dumping "just for giggles" nonsense in the middle of a discussion of a technology issue? I guess she realized her mistake as she was not at all mad at me about it, but it's frustrating that she should know better than muddying waters.

Neanderthal, Friday, 11 September 2020 22:02 (three years ago) link

to clarify, she copied this summary into a WebEx Team Chat, so of course none of us had any idea she had just copied in the bones of an old email

Neanderthal, Friday, 11 September 2020 22:06 (three years ago) link

as a cost cutting measure all the non-production servers are automatically turned off at 6 at night (and start again at, i think 4am - because we have people in GMT+5.5)

does that stop the tester waiting until 5:35 to start asking me questions about servers that are about to die? he's had literally all day...

(6 is too early imo, but i'm happier with 09:30-18:30 than i am with 9-5)

koogs, Wednesday, 16 September 2020 17:23 (three years ago) link

three weeks pass...

we keep having learners who "log in" to class, then peace out once roll is called, and in big classes it doesn't get caught right away.

earlier this week, I noticed I had this one who literally showed up for an hour and peaced for the day, then showed up for a few hours the second day. This was obvious as I was monitoring the attendee list for her name after she disappeared, messaged her, and also downloaded the roster from MS TEams, which confirms entrance/exit times.

Her manager assured me she was there "because the learner told her she was", so I told her that was impossible for the reasons above, and that she hadn't done any of the assignments (the only person in class who hadn't).

So the student msgs me upset saying "I've been there, how do you not see me?" and I pointed out she hadn't done any assignments and that I had a log of when she left each day. dead silence - she literally thought she was fooling everybody and didn't count on there being assignments that I checked every day.

LaRusso Auto (Neanderthal), Thursday, 8 October 2020 17:32 (three years ago) link

I'm realizing that I'm terrible at taking attendance over Teams. So far I haven't been calling roll because I have a 50-minute class and 32 students and it takes SO LONG to get them all to unmute and reply. But I think I'll have to because I can't seem to use the "download attendance" feature right; people are always missing from it who I know were in class, and then I can't be fully confident about the people I think were absent.

Lily Dale, Thursday, 8 October 2020 17:48 (three years ago) link

roll call for a 30+ person class in Teams is hell. after the first day, where I do a full roll to learn voices, ask if I'm saying names right, and ask them if they have a nickname they go by, every day forward, I look at the attendees list and make sure they're connected to phone, and take down who I see, and call on just those I'm missing. Imperfect, but I'm on a crunch usually.

I did see some weird results in Download Attendance the first two times I used it, which is why I can't confidently use it alone to confirm absences. I check the number of attendees, and if it varies at any point, I look to see if anybody new joined or if anybody departed, and only after I've confirmed that and/or called on the person, I use the Download feature to confirm what I already know.

Unfortunately sometimes you find out late if the class is too big, and if I can't stay for sure that the person wasn't there, I don't report it....so people often get away with it anyway just due to the bad teacher:learner ratio, having too many learners. also technically, their managers should be joining training and helping monitor them, but...they just don't.

LaRusso Auto (Neanderthal), Thursday, 8 October 2020 17:58 (three years ago) link

but then I worry that i'm going to get in trouble for not noticing someone skipped on class, so....my OCD flares up

LaRusso Auto (Neanderthal), Thursday, 8 October 2020 17:59 (three years ago) link

Yeah, I've been basically trying to just look at my attendance list, the problem is that in the moment I get hyper-focused on running the class, sustaining their interest and keeping the energy high, and I forget to give myself time to actually check who's missing.

Lily Dale, Thursday, 8 October 2020 18:03 (three years ago) link

yup. I have that problem too.

at some point I just say "you're doing teh best you can", cos if I hyperfocus on attendance, I suddenly get tongue-tied.

LaRusso Auto (Neanderthal), Thursday, 8 October 2020 18:03 (three years ago) link

I've also noticed my training classes went from being more fun and loose to being rigid simply cos my heart isn't in it right now with all of the problems.

i mean, get the right end result, but.....I don't want to make it boring for anybody, and i kinda am atm, which isn't the norm for me

LaRusso Auto (Neanderthal), Thursday, 8 October 2020 18:05 (three years ago) link

two weeks pass...

kind of annoying that on a week I'm teaching a class so I wanted to opt out of reviewing Alpha materials for a course redesign we're doing (due today), I can't because I notice two major errors in five minutes that none of the other 4 reviewers caught (and they're regulation errors which would be really bad if we taught incorrectly).

so now I have to because apparently nobody else is paying close attention.

Neanderthal, Friday, 23 October 2020 20:45 (three years ago) link

I had a weird conversation with my boss this week where he pointed out that I keep picking up on errors in our courses/literature/websites and he said it wasn't my job to do that (it isn't) and that I get paid too much to be the department's proofreader (I do).

I pointed out that he was right and that I'd be quite happy to be left off all review circulars from now on as long as he was happy to acknowledge that literally no-one else is either arsed or capable of getting things right first time or correcting them afterwards.

We agree I shall continue in my unofficial capacity as Mr Pernickety.

here we go, ten in a rona (onimo), Saturday, 24 October 2020 11:53 (three years ago) link

been trying to start my portion of class for ten minutes and my partner has, without even pausing to take a breath, non-stopped talking for ten minutes about unrelated bullshit, and got them onto a topic taht is now generating a lot of discussion. the only way for me to get started is to rudely interrupt her.

SHUT. THE. FUCK. UP.

i'm in no mood today. we're way behind and i'm stressed tf out.

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 3 November 2020 13:42 (three years ago) link

today my co-instructor asks the entire class what their 'song' is, the one that gets them going. I usually participate in these to encourage the others participating, so I listed my gut reaction, Strapping Young Lad - "Detox". she says "that sounds like metal - that's expected from you, I want something surprising from you", so I said Harold Melvin and the Blue Notes - "Wake Up Everybody". she asked other people to give 'surprising' picks and then said she would play our songs. naturally I figured she was going to go with my second choice, and I also forgot that SYL's Detox begins with Devin Townsend screaming "HEY YOU STUPID PIECE OF SHIT!".

so suddenly I hear her start my song and I can't get her to stop in time before he says that. idk - maybe a head's up that you were gonna play both my choices woulda been nice, or maybe before asking for our fav tunes telling us you were gonna play em!

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 10 November 2020 17:36 (three years ago) link

I'm sure that woke everyone up all the same. win/win

Evan, Tuesday, 10 November 2020 17:49 (three years ago) link

I blamed it on one of the students and had security escort him out of class

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 10 November 2020 17:50 (three years ago) link

which makes no sense as he was working from home but

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 10 November 2020 17:50 (three years ago) link

Not really a coworker, per se, but I'm being driven up the wall by a particular vendor we frequently use. So this vendor is producing new stuff for us to use as we adapt to COVID concerns, fine. Great. So every few weeks I have to coordinate with him to be on campus to receive the delivery and put it into storage. In the pre-COVID times, this would be fine, I would never be more than a 15 minute walk from the storage place and can meet him fairly quickly. But obviously, having to work from home and being off campus makes this a bit more tricky. (As a side note, I'm still not sure why this particular task hasn't been delegated to one of our employees that is already on campus anyway now, but that's an argument for another day).

Anyway, this guy keeps calling me while he is literally on his way to campus saying, "I'll be there in 20 minutes, see you then". The first time it was annoying, but fine, whatever. I told him that next time he needs to let me know as far in advance as possible, preferably at least 24 hours in advance, so I can make arrangements since I'm off campus and need to juggle between my schedule, my wife's schedule and making sure someone can be around to oversee my son's online classes. Every time we make a new order, I reiterate this in writing and on the phone. Today was the fourth time now he's called me last minute to tell me he's on his way and will meet me in 20 minutes. So once again, I had to drop everything and scramble to get there.

Obviously I'd like to just tell him that I can't do it and he'll have to figure out another time but, unfortunately, we have a lot of other people I work with waiting on this stuff. So blowing this guy off impacts way more coworkers than just me and can put them into a bind. So, I don't have much of a choice in that respect. Unfortunately I also don't have any pull to threaten this company with losing our business either, since they are a preferred vendor and have been for many years. I could tell him, "look I need you to be more respectful of my time or else we're gonna go somewhere else" but he knows that decision gets made way above my head and completely outside my department.

It's just infuriating that I have go through this every few weeks and no matter how proactive I am about scheduling ahead of time and underscoring the advance warning I need, this guy just either isn't willing or isn't capable of respecting my time.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 17 November 2020 19:52 (three years ago) link

If you are late to meet the guy, is he obligated to wait for you? If so, maybe being late would be a good passive-aggressive way to get your point across. I would think that having to sit around and wait for 20 minutes, an hour, what have you, would make this guy more prone to advance scheduling

sarahell, Tuesday, 17 November 2020 21:57 (three years ago) link

That thought crossed my mind, honestly have no idea if that would work or just make him worse tbh.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 17 November 2020 22:30 (three years ago) link

Yeah stop rewarding him by turning up when he calls, hes assuming you still can.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Tuesday, 17 November 2020 22:51 (three years ago) link

Could you work it on your side to get one of those other on campus employees to meet him?

nickn, Wednesday, 18 November 2020 05:50 (three years ago) link

that other employee being Joey Bananas who will have a "heart to heart" with him?

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 18 November 2020 14:15 (three years ago) link

Lol

I've tried reaching out to a couple supervisors that might be able to help but, y'know, I think it's falling into that "well that sounds like extra responsibility for me that I don't wanna take on" k-hole and will remain unanswered, but we'll see.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 18 November 2020 14:36 (three years ago) link

dying of laughter right now. This is why my company has stagnated.

5 years ago, we decided to upgrade our call handling platform. ALL teams were supposed to move to it. That became an impossibility almost immediately, because inexplicably, our contracts had standard language about a type of encryption that our new platform was unable to support (without us paying an exorbitant amount of money). our sales execs and our technology team were not communicating. so every client with that language COULDN'T use the new platform. and other clients demanded that language in their contract. so we've had half of our teams on the old platform, half new for 5 years, but we've been telling them eventually we'll get closer to 100%.

Today, I'm told we're abandoning the new platform and going back to the old one, and just changing our case management system. Years ago, we similarly moved 4 teams to a new platform of user content, only to roll it back almost immediately after as we realized it is terrible. We just abort project after project.

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 18 November 2020 14:55 (three years ago) link

you should be a visionary and introduce them to the “fail fast” methodology

they’ve got half of it right

mh, Wednesday, 18 November 2020 15:52 (three years ago) link

Dayjob client: has been letting past-due accounts slide for years to the point where she has 11 owing four figures and two more owing five figures (and another 15 or so with no payment in years), and I have dutifully sent out invoices and account statements with additional interest and rebilling charges, but yesterday I'd had enough and asked if I needed to keep doing this. Obviously it's long past time for her to take charge of shit and start chasing payment. Part of the problem is that a lot of the very late accounts stem from an annually-renewing directory listing that is opt-out rather than opt-in, and if she actually did anything about it, let's say drop the listings for which there hasn't been payment, the directory would drop to about 40% of its previous size and the financial problems would be obvious to everyone left.

2nd job: one of the servers seems to have trouble processing or retaining info. She's been working there for months and still comes up to me saying things like "I need a Coors...Life? (checks order pad) Light? In a bottle? Does that come in a bottle?" It's possible she may just be high as a fucking kite.

scampo-phenique (WmC), Wednesday, 18 November 2020 16:28 (three years ago) link

haha that last one

kinder, Wednesday, 18 November 2020 17:51 (three years ago) link

Goddammit. Now I'm hearing "Coors Life" to the tune of "Pop Life."

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 18 November 2020 18:08 (three years ago) link

xxp - ugh, my 2nd job has a contract for which we haven't received payment (we are technically subcontractor to this other company that is the main contractor, but we are doing the majority of the work) ... and the contract is with the City, but with this other company as the main contractor, and my co-worker never got any official contract with anyone (as far as I know) that shows they are supposed to pay us for our work. So, it is kinda awkward asking for payment for a contract that doesn't actually exist?

sarahell, Wednesday, 18 November 2020 20:05 (three years ago) link

Someone quite a bit senior to me just sent me an email asking 'who do I contact to do X for me?' where X is a thing that this individual has almost certainly had to contact someone about hundreds if not thousands of times before in the normal course of their job. Like, contextually, it's such an absurd and profoundly stupid question that I don't know whether I'm being punked or whether I should call 911 about the aneurysm this person is currently suffering.

You will notice a small sink where your sofa once was. (Old Lunch), Thursday, 19 November 2020 16:44 (three years ago) link

we have a 'mock' client in our system that we use for training only with fictional customer data, and literally you're taught on that client when you set foot in this building. everybody should know they're not real.

and yet they don't, so projects go on, and these people see the mock client on the list of clients. so we occasionally get requests to do work for them like they're a real client. like today, when I got thrown a series of tasks for a 30+ hour work assignment regarding web chat setup. We aren't going to spend 30 hours to set up live web chat for a fake company, guys.

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Thursday, 19 November 2020 16:55 (three years ago) link

that's not as annoying as the times I still arguments and pushback saying "well they're on the list, we need to do it"

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Thursday, 19 November 2020 16:56 (three years ago) link

additionally, new hires that handle 401(k) calls aren't trained on processing withdrawals or distribution payments, as we want them to build knowledge and comfort before they go through that training, and then come to find out they have the people we just trained doing them, when we didn't train them on how to do it and told them they wouldn't be.

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Thursday, 19 November 2020 17:02 (three years ago) link

totally laughing my ass off at the mock client situation ...

sarahell, Thursday, 19 November 2020 17:34 (three years ago) link

also this reminds me of at various points in an old job I had, which was for a performing arts non-profit called the (Founder's Name) Ensemble, and we would get calls and letters addressed to Mr. Ensemble, and at one point the Founder was trying to make a change to a bank account or discuss a tax issue with the state and the customer service rep said that they could only give that information to "Mr. Ensemble"

sarahell, Thursday, 19 November 2020 17:38 (three years ago) link

hahahaha

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Thursday, 19 November 2020 17:47 (three years ago) link

"Is Mr Starbucks with you?"

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Thursday, 19 November 2020 17:47 (three years ago) link

we also have to add a "*DO NOT MAIL*" tag to any fictional client accounts so that the documents don't get created and mailed to the fake people at the fake address, and some idiot on one client team I guess thought it was ridiculous that we had to have that, so they got rid of the "*Do Not Mail*" tags in their acceptance environment.

and I looked, and all these letters got mailed to people who didn't exist at addresses that didn't exist...and then said mail was returned. good use of company money there.

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Thursday, 19 November 2020 17:49 (three years ago) link

omg -- where do these people come from??? (not the fake people, the real ones that do stupid shit)

sarahell, Thursday, 19 November 2020 17:55 (three years ago) link

I don’t work in our retail stores but I sometimes have to stop by to grab stuff or drop off stuff, so I know what the windows look like, which is: drab as fuck. Sloppy. Pale colors against a pale background. Dusty.

My boss asks me for suggestions about getting more customers in (she absolutely won’t do any advertising or marketing) so I tell her we need to make the window displays more eye catching.

Her response is: no one looks at the windows! That’s not what brings ppl in!

This is the same woman whose response to my suggestion years ago that we actually promote the fact that our stuff is locally made was: that’s so gauche!
Eventually we did start promoting it.

just1n3, Thursday, 19 November 2020 20:39 (three years ago) link

you are seriously undervalued, just1n3

sarahell, Thursday, 19 November 2020 21:25 (three years ago) link

otm

people dont look at windows LMAO jfc

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 19 November 2020 21:55 (three years ago) link

One of my UK colleagues has twice now asked me what "RVA" stands for. It is INSANELY well known and common an acronym in telecommunications ("recorded voice annoucement") and this guy being Level 3 for a fucking mobile phone call centre should KNOW THIS SHIT. he always asks me to "dumb down" responses from the phone networks that say things like "site tower degragded performance repair ETA bla date". LIke what else does he think that means GAHHH

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Thursday, 19 November 2020 22:26 (three years ago) link

a student entered a live training class in MS Teams today where people were actively talking and presenting and typed "I heard class is cancelled today, is that true?"

bit like walking into a McDonald's that's serving customers and saying "I heard you all are closed right now, is that true?"

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Friday, 20 November 2020 14:53 (three years ago) link

Xps that’s the thing though - I’m not even suggesting creative solutions, I’m suggesting the most basic things that EVERY other remotely successful business does! I’ve gotta post a photo here one day so you can see how truly bad our windows look. I’m surprised anyone goes into the stores at all.

just1n3, Friday, 20 November 2020 20:27 (three years ago) link

Tonight my boss texts me a picture she took of her computer screen, showing a listing on our website. This is the following exchange:
Her: did u take this photo
Me: no
Her: who put it up
Me: Susan [a former coworkers mum who did all the transition work when we had to change platforms]
Her: how do people buy it

*now I’m confused*

Me: what do you mean?
Her: Well it is saying you can buy the shirts
I wondered how?
Me: by hitting “add to cart”???
Her: you knew about the photos. I guess that’s what meant
Me: I still don’t understand
Her: I googled [our business] and all these odd shirts came up
I was surprised

*still confused but feeling a sense of dawning understanding and horror and what she’s getting at*

Me: that’s our website
Her: Ok so it links to our website
I didn’t realize that would happen!
Technology!!
I didn’t think google went into our website!!
Me: It goes into every website ever
Her: news to me!!

I mean Jesus Christ the website was right there in the url. But this is the same person who also asked what our “web address” is when she actually meant “email” (she has repeatedly called it our “web address”) and wants to start promoting our business on Twitter (?!??!??!!) even though I’ve been telling her for a year that we need to be focusing on Instagram

just1n3, Sunday, 22 November 2020 10:07 (three years ago) link

please never leave this job, as long as she is willing to keep blindly funding it for years and occasionally thinking "what is... shop?" before making a noise like a stepped-on balloon, we will cherish the content

huge rant (sic), Sunday, 22 November 2020 10:17 (three years ago) link

She has by some miracle had this same business for close to 40 yrs

just1n3, Sunday, 22 November 2020 11:07 (three years ago) link

I mentioned this on the careers advice thread but I'm getting made redundant soon. It has been an absolute disaster.

- our branch is at risk of closure but if it doesn't close then my job role is being eliminated anyway in restructuring, for a replacement position which is 1/3 less salary.

- so if we stay open I'm meant to finish in the middle of December. But if the branch is closing then all of us are finishing at... some point in the future, that could be any time between December and March, yet to be decided. So we pointed out that if I get made redundant, there would still be a need to hire a replacement for what could be as little as four weeks, which obviously makes no sense. It took two weeks for Head Office to realise that yes this might be an issue and put a pause on the redundancy process.

- meanwhile despite knowing I'm getting made redundant at some point imminently, I can't really start applying for new jobs in good faith because I don't know when my last day would be yet, and if I leave before I'm redundant I lose out on the payment, which is significant enough to not be worth abandoning.

- if the branch stays open for now, it could still end up closing in a year or two years. So if you take a new contract on reduced pay then 12 weeks later you're made redundant, you've thrown away a considerable chunk of a redundancy pay-out as your payoff is worked out on the past three months of earnings. This isn't just our branch but every branch. So as you would expect, anyone eligible for redundancy is taking it because it's too big a gamble to risk losing out on several thousand pounds.

- our H.O has obviously been banking on people panicking and taking a lesser contract, not realising that all the people they're "restructuring" have long service and are all eligible for a good payoff, while knowing there's no future in retail.

- so this week I had to have a ridiculous conversation with a grandboss three levels up who wanted to know why I wasn't applying for the new position. "Given the choice between leaving with a good payout, or staying in a job being paid a third less, I think it's quite obvious why." The seniors are spooked now they've realised they've basically forced out their most experienced, expert staff and are going to have to replace them with people who won't have the knowledge, and with the new contracts they won't get any level of committment from them either.

The whole thing has been a fucking nightmare. It's stressful enough being made redundant without having the people making you redundant clearly have no planning or foresight.

boxedjoy, Sunday, 22 November 2020 12:37 (three years ago) link

(I mean if you think that post is confusing... try living through it and trying to plan your immediate future)

boxedjoy, Sunday, 22 November 2020 12:38 (three years ago) link

sincere sorry for your situation, delighted "eat shit" to your bosses

huge rant (sic), Sunday, 22 November 2020 12:54 (three years ago) link

Guy briefing us today has an assistant to work the magic next slide button in PowerPoint (coz it's so fucking hard to click and speak) and instead of saying "next slide please" is going with "okaaayyy Richie FLASH FORWARD noooowww!"

Clean-up on ILX (onimo), Friday, 27 November 2020 11:10 (three years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Still no updates other than "redundant, at some point in the future" but in the meantime:

- Head Office wants us to go digital and has sent a new Samsung tablet to every branch. The apps include a checklist for what needs done every day. Which is ridiculous because as a manager you're paid to know what to do every day and take it upon yourself to get it done so if you're needing this app then... what are you being paid for?

- the majority of people in our branches are not tech-savvy as it is. The apps themselves do not make anything easier - they've missed loads of stuff out that needs done every day and every week and bundled up multiple major tasks into one small bullet point. The app has clearly been made with no input or feedback from anyone who might actually use it.

- we've been asked to plan our holiday requests for 2021. We don't even know if we will be jobs in January.

- obviously there are no Xmas nights out happening. And given that there's at least 300 people facing redundancy, Head Office thought the best they could do was send us cupcakes via courier. Rather than pay us the money we would normally get for an Xmas night out, which is only usually twenty quid but that's still more than a lukewarm cupcake. They had the audacity to ask us to post pictures of us on our internal social media with our teams enjoying the cupcakes. It is taking all my energy to not post "this tastes almost as good as job security."

boxedjoy, Wednesday, 16 December 2020 13:36 (three years ago) link

that type of shit infuriates me, and it's why I find the show Superstore cathartic, as they lampoon that empty management shit. where they show appreciation in an empty way that actually harms you more than helps (you would have preferred the quid, you got a crappy cupcake, and management demanded you show your appreciation).

I learned when I was a manager that when people are stressed and fearful of their future, empty shows of appreciation are insulting and it comes across as you trying to squash an issue cos you don't want to deal with it.

who the hell asks for someone to plan their entire year's PTO days in December in a REGULAR year, much less a pandemic year, much less in a year where nobody knows how long they'll be employed?

sorry you're having to deal with that bullshit boxed :(

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 16 December 2020 16:20 (three years ago) link

in the uk at least, giving people more money has tax implications which is why bonuses are often paid in vouchers.

because we didn't agree a payrise yet this year (or something) we've all been given an extra day's holiday, to go with the other 21 i haven't taken so far this year because where would i go?

koogs, Wednesday, 16 December 2020 17:01 (three years ago) link

Yeah twenty quid in a voucher would be magic, I could get a litre of decent vodka and pretend everything else isn't happening

boxedjoy, Wednesday, 16 December 2020 17:51 (three years ago) link

I mean twenty quid in your pocket isn't going to change your life but it's going to pay for a little luxury you didn't have before, something nice like a taxi home one night instead of the bus or a decent bottle of wine or something similar you wouldn't normally do.

boxedjoy, Wednesday, 16 December 2020 17:55 (three years ago) link

I learned when I was a manager that when designing systems to be used by other workers, what made them good systems, was having input from the workers that they would actually use them and the new systems would be an improvement

sarahell, Wednesday, 16 December 2020 18:02 (three years ago) link

or as the writers of process would call it, user-centered design

mh, Wednesday, 16 December 2020 18:04 (three years ago) link

Otm

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 16 December 2020 18:06 (three years ago) link

Every branch is going to have idiosyncratic methods and store-specific actions etc. I can see why they might think it helps to standardise processes. The problem is that the standard they've used is not a standard that anyone can or would work with. As you say, no user-centred design!

boxedjoy, Wednesday, 16 December 2020 18:12 (three years ago) link

Soo...IT is tired of getting tickets regarding VoIP phone config. They gave us a troubleshooting guide and told us to use it and stop sending people to them.

The thing is tiny and addresses precisely ONE problem, one that isn't any of the three most frequently reported issues.

and the solution is literally "make sure they typed their login right, have them reinstall the program" for that one issue.

Turns out the most common issue can't be solved by anybody BUT IT - and they've been blaming us for not doing our jobs as the reason for the uptick. Sent them 10 tickets today after i found that out.

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 16 December 2020 18:15 (three years ago) link

if IT is tired of tickets they should make it so the problems stop happening

is right unfortunately (silby), Wednesday, 16 December 2020 18:22 (three years ago) link

Also, there are always going to be instances and workers that don't mesh well with whatever system you have to do any given thing ... and any good system has to have a plan in place for dealing with those, what I call "The Mikey Problem" so named because of a former co-worker who would never turn in his timesheet on time and things would always be slightly inaccurate

sarahell, Wednesday, 16 December 2020 18:24 (three years ago) link

here watch my talk

is right unfortunately (silby), Wednesday, 16 December 2020 18:26 (three years ago) link

hahahah your slides are cool! ... I had no idea you could get a ".fyi"

sarahell, Wednesday, 16 December 2020 18:36 (three years ago) link

they've been rolling out new TLDs as a moneymaking scheme for ICANN for some years now.

https://haha.business

is right unfortunately (silby), Wednesday, 16 December 2020 18:36 (three years ago) link

basically enterprise software is good when it centralizes drudgery for the drudgery experts to deal with and bad when it piles on new drudgery for edge workers to cope with

is right unfortunately (silby), Wednesday, 16 December 2020 18:39 (three years ago) link

I know so little about this stuff -- like, I isolated the world of Capitalist tech and all its jargon from my brain, in the way you suggest a programmer isolates the annoying parts of code that would be a pain to edit or delete -- now, I'm like -- this is fascinating, but probably because I have blocked it out for like, decades.

sarahell, Wednesday, 16 December 2020 18:42 (three years ago) link

like the systems I have "designed" are like ... how to operate an arts space effectively and efficiently and on a shoestring budget, or, how to accurately account for money in a chaotic small business or non-profit

sarahell, Wednesday, 16 December 2020 18:45 (three years ago) link

how to organize a large number of small objects so that nothing gets lost or damaged ... dumb stuff basically

sarahell, Wednesday, 16 December 2020 18:46 (three years ago) link

Programming is the same cognitive task as those examples really, programming is only harder because everything is completely imaginary and capable of taking on an infinite variety of forms in service of the same end

is right unfortunately (silby), Wednesday, 16 December 2020 18:57 (three years ago) link

The small objects are Data and the organization system is Business Rules.

is right unfortunately (silby), Wednesday, 16 December 2020 18:58 (three years ago) link

In my current line of work, (one of them at least), I can see how this logic (that of your presentation) plays out in code regulating buildings and physical space ... some of it is actually contradictory, and the more that gets written and put in different places, the more time consuming and annoying it is to revise / analyze with the goal of revision

sarahell, Wednesday, 16 December 2020 19:08 (three years ago) link

my current "annoying co-worker" was previously a systems engineer/programmer and the way you explain stuff here, helps me understand the way he thinks a lot

sarahell, Wednesday, 16 December 2020 19:09 (three years ago) link

hah

is right unfortunately (silby), Wednesday, 16 December 2020 19:10 (three years ago) link

he looks at me funny when I print out things and make notes on actual pieces of paper and compare the data/notes on paper to the data on the screen

sarahell, Wednesday, 16 December 2020 19:15 (three years ago) link

this is a guy that OCR's all the PDF's

sarahell, Wednesday, 16 December 2020 19:16 (three years ago) link

I’m writing some thoughts down on paper as we speak so we’re not all like that

is right unfortunately (silby), Wednesday, 16 December 2020 19:45 (three years ago) link

I don't doubt it. This guy is just "difficult" ... like, a half dozen people who at one point have worked with him will either apologize on his behalf that he is so annoying, or express surprise that I have not quit out of frustration yet.

sarahell, Wednesday, 16 December 2020 19:49 (three years ago) link

I don't doubt it. This guy is just "difficult" ... like, a half dozen people who at one point have worked with him will either apologize on his behalf that he is so annoying, or express surprise that I have not quit out of frustration yet.

sarahell, Wednesday, 16 December 2020 19:49 (three years ago) link

I had to get two people to download something that IT forgot to install on her machine. Pulled first aside, used MS Teams to call her, had her share screen, took control - like, 2 minutes tops. I've done this throughout the last two weeks - every time, it goes off without a hitch.

Other person, who is never paying attention and seems like computers are alien to her, she shares her screen, I click to Request Control, and I can see on her screen that the option to Allow me control has popped up. she keeps letting it expire, insisting she can't see it, even as I tell her exactly where it is on her screen. aafter TEN MINUTES, I gave up, fairly angry, as it was clear she was not going to get it.

I could never do IT support. hats off to those who do.

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Thursday, 17 December 2020 14:21 (three years ago) link

11 days into training, after showing them multiple times how to email and how to check calendar in Outlook, and after actually sending them invites to MS Teams meetings for almost two weeks and having them accept and join these meetings, once again 10% of the class freaked out when their manager sent them invites to a touchbase today, because they couldn't 'find' the invite. they accept the invite in email and then complain it 'disappeared from their email', or it's not on their calendar because they never accepted it via email.

I know Outlook isn't the easiest but you were using it just fine two days ago!

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 22 December 2020 21:44 (three years ago) link

one just emailed us to let us know Teams and Outlook wasn't working for them, two minutes after msging my partner on Teams, and the email went through which means Outlook was obv working

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 22 December 2020 22:13 (three years ago) link

I can’t figure out who the people you training are. Are these people employed somewhere getting upgraded skills? Seniors with their first computer? Ho-ly cow I consider myself a patient computer trainer (I’m a dev) but this stuff seems like such a trial...

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 02:31 (three years ago) link

they're people ranging from early 20s - 60s, who are going to be using computers all day every day to take calls for benefits-related customers (health, pension, 401k). technical skills is supposed to be a pre-requisite for hire, and the last class I taught, they were very sharp, but this one....I'm kind of afraid for some of them.

I actually had to pass a WINDOWS 95 test when I got hired (and it was 2004, so it made little sense).

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 02:37 (three years ago) link

Hah, awesome! Fair. Some of my senior coworkers who are devs also go through moments where I’m describing something I can see on the screen they’re sharing and it’s clear they can’t see it in the slightest. So frustrating.

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 02:41 (three years ago) link

we will be seniors some day (presumably) ... so ....

sarahell, Wednesday, 23 December 2020 03:16 (three years ago) link

my co-workers are all older than me -- two by only a couple years (both used to work in tech), the other two are in their 60s (at least) and they occasionally have old people computer problems like "I can't see the button ... maybe I have it zoomed in too far?"

sarahell, Wednesday, 23 December 2020 03:19 (three years ago) link

ffm, I hear that. I feel like I have done that to peers and it comes down to whether you have had to design user interfaces, because you spot things quicker

my developer coworkers had problems with Microsoft Teams because the UI genuinely is bad, there is one part in the sharing bit where you can pick a document to share, but the text is the same as the descriptive text in the same area and it doesn’t seem like an action button or link? like, you should not have “Files” as a description and “Pick file” look identical

mh, Wednesday, 23 December 2020 03:24 (three years ago) link

so my branch is confirmed as closing down. This means all of us and not just myself are getting made redundant. We do not have a timescale or action plan yet - which is fair enough, given the unpredictability of how the UK Gov't are rolling out lockdowns.

But I didn't find out through a phone call with my boss or even an email. I found out because Head Office posted an announcement on Yammer and I got a notification on my phone about a large comment thread underneath it. I had to phone my own manager to ask if she had seen the news. She had only been told ten mins before the announcement was made on Yammer and had been explicitly asked not to tell us just yet as without a timeline etc it would have caused more questions than answers. Apparently the post went up before every affected branch manager had even been told, not to mention the staff working in the stores who it also affects. A logistical nightmare - imagine if your pal who works in another branch heard you were losing your job before you did and texted to ask if you were ok and that's how you found out?

boxedjoy, Tuesday, 5 January 2021 09:09 (three years ago) link

jesus that is shorty and a super weird thing to post on yammer in a hurry or otherwise!
I’m sorry boxedjoy

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Tuesday, 5 January 2021 12:56 (three years ago) link

Shitty* 🙃

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Tuesday, 5 January 2021 12:57 (three years ago) link

two weeks pass...

people that ask you for a status update on a deliverable when said deliverable is actually being held up by them not finishing a task.

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 15:39 (three years ago) link

this happens to me regularly and I spend quality time inventing dialog for what I could say to them, and what the fictional version of me in the tv show / movie / play would say to them.

sarahell, Tuesday, 19 January 2021 19:05 (three years ago) link

😳

Next Time Might Be Hammer Time (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 19:10 (three years ago) link

my issue is every response I come up with sounds sarcastic.

"it looks like in the thread below, you're being asked to do X. Do you see that?"

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 19:29 (three years ago) link

the other thing is we're training people on that aforementioned "new tool" next week, and nobody thought about access requests. and it turns out users aren't being granted automatic access to it since it's new and not widely available yet, so we have to grant each trainee individually. not a huge time suck, but would have been a big disaster for next week.

also I'm one of two people who knows how to do this so I'll probably have to do it for all classes next week :/

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 19:31 (three years ago) link

i swear we try to make everything as difficult as possible

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 19:31 (three years ago) link

I consider myself very lucky to not really have co-workers. That said, I do have clients who do things like send me a 200-page manuscript to be line edited that's formatted as a single 200-page, 75,000-word sentence (and before you ask, no, it's not avant-garde experimental fiction, just some barely literate maniac who doesn't know how written English works).

but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 19:45 (three years ago) link

Armond White?

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 19:48 (three years ago) link

my issue is every response I come up with sounds sarcastic.

oh yes! That is the joy of it. You can both be sarcastic and have righteousness on your side.

sarahell, Tuesday, 19 January 2021 20:24 (three years ago) link

Man, this is more of a recent, COVID era development, but my workplace has become absolutely obsessed with lunch time meetings. 95% of the meetings on my calendar for the next month are scheduled between 11 a.m. and 1 p.m., with over half of them straight up for the 12-1 hour. It's obnoxious for me, personally, because this means I'm almost always overlapping with my son's break from remote learning. So either I'm scrambling to make his lunch or having to completely ignore him during the one break for him where I'm sure he'd appreciate some non screen human interaction.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 27 January 2021 18:22 (three years ago) link

I've had like no meetings scheduled on the noon hour this whole time, tho there is one tomorrow at noon (with regrets from the person who set the schedule). 11am I figure has to be fair game, considering nobody really wants to meet before 10 anyway.

Canon in Deez (silby), Wednesday, 27 January 2021 18:28 (three years ago) link

the early-start people start even earlier under wfh conditions it seems like, I have one colleague who I think is on 5a-2p

Canon in Deez (silby), Wednesday, 27 January 2021 18:29 (three years ago) link

I mean, my inbox starts filling between 4:30 and 5:00 a.m. with the early rising contractor types and doesn't really taper off until 10 or 11 p.m., which is usually when the IT types check in.

I mean, I don't mind the occasional lunch hour meeting, but I've had one every day this week. Was looking forward to Friday since I had a break from it but, nope, meeting request for 12-1 Friday just came in. smh

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 27 January 2021 18:32 (three years ago) link

so yesterday one of the learners missed a few hours due to a technical issue and I gave them what they missed to make up later. they were willing to stay late, but naturally, that's overtime. so they ask their manager if they can make up the material off hours (meaning "can I work overtime to do it?") - I had asked her to do so because it's not my call.

Manager literally tells her she can either make it up during regular work hours (how? she's in training all day) or that she can make it up outside of work hours "off the clock".

report this to my dept lead, who....doesn't respond or care. so I'm going to HR now to report this.

if Spaghetti-Os had whammy bars (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 27 January 2021 21:12 (three years ago) link

I suspect this is happening a lot as we had a classmate work 10+ hours off the clock one week without billing it and I was horrified - I always tell learners in class bill EVERY hour you work because we do not work for free. even one of my (dumb) colleagues was telling learners they could do this.

if Spaghetti-Os had whammy bars (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 27 January 2021 21:13 (three years ago) link

It's obnoxious for me, personally, because this means I'm almost always overlapping with my son's break from remote learning. So either I'm scrambling to make his lunch or having to completely ignore him during the one break for him where I'm sure he'd appreciate some non screen human interaction.

Could you let your co-workers know this and request more variety in the meeting times? Or, what happens if you miss one of these meetings? Could you send your stuff in advance and then not be there?

sarahell, Thursday, 28 January 2021 01:41 (three years ago) link

I like to propose other meeting times

if Spaghetti-Os had whammy bars (Neanderthal), Thursday, 28 January 2021 02:07 (three years ago) link

you should troll and propose the meeting be moved to another month

if Spaghetti-Os had whammy bars (Neanderthal), Thursday, 28 January 2021 02:07 (three years ago) link

Unfortunately, due to my role I’m usually last to get added to meetings after they’ve already been scheduled with faculty. Trying to convince six professors to change the time of a meeting after they’ve already agreed to it is usually an exercise in futility.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 28 January 2021 04:29 (three years ago) link

then it should be understandable to them if you can't make some of these meetings, as you weren't consulted and you have family obligations.

sarahell, Thursday, 28 January 2021 06:52 (three years ago) link

when a manager gets pinged asking for a link to provide backdoor access to a tool, instead of perusing the materials to find it (which would have taken 5 minutes), you send them to....me, when I'm in the process of screensharing and leading a course, so I don't see it until 90 minutes later.

brilliant.

if Spaghetti-Os had whammy bars (Neanderthal), Thursday, 28 January 2021 16:14 (three years ago) link

which I said in nicer, yet passive aggressive words

if Spaghetti-Os had whammy bars (Neanderthal), Thursday, 28 January 2021 16:16 (three years ago) link

jon – i would probably just mark off 30 minutes in your calendar everyday for taking care of your kid over lunch (hopefully your system is set to notify people you can't make it when a meeting is scheduled over that). it sounds like these people have all decided through indifference that you don't deserve a lunch break anymore (which is bullshit on it's own) - and if they can't understand that parents are all having a hard time right now and you need to see to your child, then you're going to have to make it their responsibility to make some extra time later to tell you what you need to know from the meeting.

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 28 January 2021 18:54 (three years ago) link

for one of our processes, there are two separate 7-day timings. reissuing pension checks requires a 7 business day wait, but if reissuing to a new address, that address has to be on file 7 calendar days first (fraud reasons, etc).

confusing, yes, but....it's been the process a while. so anyway, we're redesigning our training materials, and the third party helping us do it gets this timing correct on the first attempt. inexplicably, one of the subject matter experts, who actually wrote the Best Practice for each 7-day wait period, incorrectly tells them to change the 7 calendar day timing to "7 business days". I piped in that this was wrong, citing the actual Best Practice she wrote, but was ignored, and the wrong info made it into Production.

I got the information fixed, and a day later, someone else submitted a request to change it back to the wrong info. which I just caught before it was done.

OMFG

Wrong Screamed Barney (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 3 February 2021 14:50 (three years ago) link

you don't have to ask a question in every meeting

superdeep borehole (harbl), Wednesday, 3 February 2021 19:04 (three years ago) link

esp 1 minutes before meeting end

Wrong Screamed Barney (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 3 February 2021 19:06 (three years ago) link

oh this guy is the type that's the first to ask a question the moment "any questions?" is said

superdeep borehole (harbl), Wednesday, 3 February 2021 19:07 (three years ago) link

my pet hate is when a presenter will take questions during a presentation instead of at the end. especially HR open enrollment meetsing. omg derail CITY.
and when questions get too specific they dont push to handle offline - they’ll just go right on down the rabbit hole

drives me insane

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 3 February 2021 19:32 (three years ago) link

lol yeah, especially when the presentation is about something new rolling out and people are already asking about "what does 10 months from now look like", or you're teaching a basic concept and they don't even understand that yet and are asking advanced questions about unlikely scenarios which create a 20 minute tangent while other people had legit questions to ask.

I used to say "I'd answer that but you don't even understand the basics yet, so how is my answer going to make any sense?" or "so let me parking lot that for you" and....move on

Wrong Screamed Barney (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 3 February 2021 19:33 (three years ago) link

nothing like one hour meetings that get derailed to where the presenter doesn't get to finish and then the dreaded question

"do y'all have hard stops or can you 'stay longer'"

Wrong Screamed Barney (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 3 February 2021 19:34 (three years ago) link

on a conf call with someone who I found out is a Trump donor thanks to that site caek shared.

tempted to ask my first question - "who here supports coups?"

Wrong Screamed Barney (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 3 February 2021 20:05 (three years ago) link

do it.

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 3 February 2021 20:22 (three years ago) link

do it

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 3 February 2021 20:50 (three years ago) link

a couper says what

maf you one two (maffew12), Wednesday, 3 February 2021 21:23 (three years ago) link

Hangin' With Mr. Couper

superdeep borehole (harbl), Wednesday, 3 February 2021 21:28 (three years ago) link

Had a meeting about returning to work in the office today, they'd already gone over how people with health concerns can apply for exceptions to stay home.

Coworker pipes up during the q'time "I have elderly parents and am worried about public transport can I stay home" THAT WAS ALREADY ADDRESSED TAKE IT OFFLINE GEEZ.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Thursday, 4 February 2021 03:02 (three years ago) link

so the 'new tool' I referenced we are building, since it's on a third party vendor and no longer proprietary tech of ours, it requires licenses for all users. previously, no 'licenses' were needed, access to the previous tool was automatic.

they had a deal with the vendor for a specific # of licenses. the number of licenses is insufficient for the # of people who need it. entire project put on hold.

after we already moved our training materials in QA and QC to the new format.

lol. this place is hilarious.

he said that you son of a bitch (Neanderthal), Friday, 5 February 2021 14:17 (three years ago) link

Whoopsie doodle

Canon in Deez (silby), Friday, 5 February 2021 16:37 (three years ago) link

My boss has been out of the country for the last 5 weeks so I had to take sole responsibility for hiring and training 2 new staff for the stores, which I hate bc 1. I don’t want to talk to anybody let alone strangers and 2. I don’t fucking work in the stores so I don’t know shit about the front end of our POS

But fine whatever, I do it and it’s been 2 weeks. One of the new staff, who seemed promising, is already giving off major red flags:
We’re all in a group chat bitching about a customer who tried to throw a one coworker under the bus to another. New staff member - let’s call her G - privately tells another coworker that she thinks it’s “catty” which is just like... wtf you claimed you’ve worked years in CS, bitching is what everyone ever who works in CS does - it’s fucking bonding!!
Again, we’re in a group chat bc there’s some customer issue, we’re trying to figure out who she originally dealt with, coworker E says that from what she can gather from the customer, the original staff member was G. G goes OFF and accuses E of being a liar - in the group chat!!! She eventually sort of apologizes and blanes it on stress caused by unspecified family issues.
Later on I tell that I’m happy she apologized but that she needs to know it’s inappropriate and unacceptable to speak to a coworker that way and WOW she didn’t like my attitude. She claimed she was raised to “defend” herself (except she attacked instead of defending), blamed her personal problems again, and when I told her that personal problems are no excuse for disrespecting coworkers she gave me a lecture about disappointing it is her employer doesn’t care about her.

I can’t wait till my boss gets back bc these two will absolutely not vibe and shit is gonna hit the fan.

just1n3, Monday, 8 February 2021 13:44 (three years ago) link

ugh ... yeah ... one of my clients does custom products and has a store as well ... and complaining/joking about customers was definite bonding time. ... like the guy who walked in and wanted the front end staffperson to help him make a cactus hoodie, like how to design a cactus hoodie ...it was actually hilarious (because the guy was a jerk and also probably high) and awesome because it then became a brainstorming session about how one would actually go about making a cactus hoodie and why someone would want a cactus hoodie.

sarahell, Tuesday, 9 February 2021 04:03 (three years ago) link

really hate when managers want a meeting with me but it's beneath them to set up the conference line so they email me to set it up instead

superdeep borehole (harbl), Tuesday, 9 February 2021 14:53 (three years ago) link

Lol yes that is bullllshit

he said that you son of a bitch (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 9 February 2021 16:25 (three years ago) link

oh it wasn't even asked either, it was just like "we would like to have a call tomorrow morning," just implied that they wouldn't be setting it up. i wish i could have replied "OKAY, AND?"

superdeep borehole (harbl), Tuesday, 9 February 2021 16:35 (three years ago) link

"that's cool. i would like a salad right now myself"

he said that you son of a bitch (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 9 February 2021 16:36 (three years ago) link

how one would actually go about making a cactus hoodie and why someone would want a cactus hoodie

so how would one make a cactus hoodie though?

asking for a friend

salsa shark, Tuesday, 9 February 2021 20:47 (three years ago) link

LOL speaking of bitching about customers in group chats, I wrote "ugh i am going to kill harry" (a customer) in what I thought was our direct team-only chat but it was the somewhat wider our team + all the devs and managers craaaap

Thankfully someone just joked "make sure you Jira that" lol. I deleted it p fast.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Tuesday, 9 February 2021 21:22 (three years ago) link

I did that once years ago where our most toxic member of our team had just loudly boasted "I WORK TWICE AS HARD AS EVERYONE ELSE ON THIS TEAM". I wrote "K@thleen just said she works 'twice as hard as everyone else on the team'", and then accidentally sent it TO HER. I tried to backpedal and say "and I agree with you", only I realized by looking at her desk that she hadn't read it yet, and then a manager pulled her into a meeting and she didn't lock her desk like she was supposed to.

I got up and closed the window. this was Sametime 15 years ago so it didn't save Conversation History and it wasn't setup to send email transcripts to her email, so she didn't see it.

Now if I'm trash talking, I double check!

he said that you son of a bitch (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 9 February 2021 21:25 (three years ago) link

i wrote a css overlay for slack to make 'safe' chats have a different background colour to shared chats, just as a reminder.

anyway, i'm off for a week so i wrote instructions on how to make a time sensitive change to the worst config file in history and on the jira ticket noted that there was a known problem which is unimportant and pre-existing and to be careful because the config is fragile.

change was applied as requested, and then the team-lead noticed the non-problem and 'fixed' that too, breaking the config and causing other jobs not to process.

koogs, Tuesday, 9 February 2021 22:05 (three years ago) link

Going by my past experiences, your coworkers will then subtly infer that this would not have happened had you not taken time off.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 9 February 2021 22:17 (three years ago) link

we're redesigning our training and one of the SMEs disagreed with feedback that my colleagues and I had left. She posted her concerns directly below our feedback, which was sure to confuse the developer with conflicting instructions, so I took the discussion offline. We discussed and the head of our dept decided to go with our approach rather than the SMEs.

In retaliation, the SME is now making passive aggressive comments ("you'll need to ask Neanderthal/etc, I disagreed, but they decided not to go with my suggestion, and then she deleted all of her feedback, including feedback not related at all to the content in dispute. so now the developer is asking where that feedback went as they need it for today's deadline.

like, are you 12 years old? jfc.

he said that you son of a bitch (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 10 February 2021 14:45 (three years ago) link

My immediate team is 4 staff. With the way our work's structured, we've basically divided the work into 4 parts, each about as busy as the other but all diff skillsets. Me and the other gal in the team we can, and do, manage all 4 tasks when we have to ie when someone's away we'll do their bit.

Whenever I or her are away, the other 2 useless men in the team stick to their own part and whinge theyre busy.

2 ppl were away the last 2 days leaving me and Useless Guy to divide the work up. 50 50 right? Makes sense?

So I say "I am doing my usual task A and T*ryns task B, You can do your usual, and Task D". He has the gall to say "I'll see what I can do to help out."

...help out? How are you HEPLING me by NOT DOING YOUR SHARE.

He kept making it sound like he was doing me a favour doing his extra quarter of the work, whinged he was busy, and inevitagbly I had to do the bulk of it because it couldnt just not get done.

So I did 3/4 of the work last 2 days and I am PISS MAD.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Friday, 12 February 2021 06:20 (three years ago) link

there seems to be one of those at every business and yet if you ever call them out for not being productive, they have every excuse in the book, none of which has anything to do with why they couldn't do the work to help.

is there another assignment you can have someone drop into his lap by proxy?

he said that you son of a bitch (Neanderthal), Friday, 12 February 2021 20:48 (three years ago) link

i'm tired of idiot team managers being allowed to add their stupid fucking representatives to training roster up until the Friday afternoon before it begins. rather than instituting a firm cutoff date, which should optimally be a week before.

We base the number of trainers on the size of the class a week before, which proves faulty because between during the Monday - Friday of the week before, the requests that come in Thursday/Friday wind up increasing the roster 150 - 200%. More than half the time, that means we have too few trainers (as the ratio is supposed to be 12:1) and have to go scrambling to find someone last minute, or leave the class short handed. (and in virtual training it's important to have a good ratio due to the increase in the number of tech issues, where there's often multiple that need to be addressed simultaneously).

then a quarter of the time, they wind up msging us the Monday or Tuesday to disenroll these same people, saying "nevermind, they have a conflict this week that I didn't know about". real easy to keep together who's in the class when the 'official roster' is out of date by the time it gets to us (and the dude responsible for keeping it fucks it up half the time).

he said that you son of a bitch (Neanderthal), Friday, 12 February 2021 21:00 (three years ago) link

verbatim exchange I just had. including timestamps, which were visible to the other person while making these statements:

[12:26 PM] GOOBER
how much time do we have I want to take it over but if not enough time to start it I will do it again later.

​[12:26 PM] NEANDERTHAL
about 9 minutes

​[12:27 PM] GOOBER
Ok, I reviewed, I know my mistakes but want to make sure I have time to redo so I will later even if it doesn't count for you guys, for myself.

​[12:36 PM] GOOBER
that was the longest 9 min I could've retested by now.

if you meh them, shut up (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 16 February 2021 17:39 (three years ago) link

two weeks pass...

entire GUI system down in our test environment for over 24 hours. nothing like this has ever happened before.

the lead IT guy's response is to merely say over and over again "this shouldn't be happening".

so basically all of my trainees can't properly utilize the environment they're supposed to use and aren't getting practice.

fun!

Red Nerussi (Neanderthal), Thursday, 4 March 2021 16:01 (three years ago) link

fuck ... I want to post in this thread, but it's on ILE and not 77 ... honestly, I should keep it to myself. Stupid, annoying ... but understandable

sarahell, Friday, 5 March 2021 04:53 (three years ago) link

I told my boss once back in 2019 that he could message me on WhatsApp since I was in the Philippines.

He apparently took that one time permission to mean "message me here always instead of texting" and unbeknownst to me, has been sending me messages there for weeks. Usually for emergencies. Like today, he wanted me to come in early to help fill in for a training, so he WhatsApped me yesterday. I didn't see it as I don't even have it installed anymore, he didn't text me, so I was late.

WhatsApp is like FB Messenger, it shows you if the messages have been read. can't...he see...that I am not reading them?

Red Nerussi (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 9 March 2021 14:06 (three years ago) link

Not to mention the years of nonresponse!?

Canon in Deez (silby), Tuesday, 9 March 2021 15:28 (three years ago) link

yeah for real. i haven't replied to a single message since 2019. lol

told him this morning to just text me from now on.

Red Nerussi (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 9 March 2021 15:33 (three years ago) link

well now at least he knows what's up

sarahell, Tuesday, 9 March 2021 15:57 (three years ago) link

one month passes...

one of our trainees in one of our classes has a smoke alarm with a low battery that has been chirping for two weeks, and constantly forgets to put herself on mute. eventually one of the other classmates said DOES SOMEONE NEED TO CHANGE THEIR SMOKE ALARM BATTERY

P-Zunit (Neanderthal), Friday, 16 April 2021 14:11 (three years ago) link

observing a trainer who is literally making the training all about him and his emotional outbursts. he made a mistake yesterday and then said loudly "put a bullet in my head!"

P-Zunit (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 21 April 2021 15:36 (three years ago) link

oh yikes. Is this training about dealing with stupid, annoying coworkers?

maf you one two (maffew12), Wednesday, 21 April 2021 15:37 (three years ago) link

unintentionally, it has become exactly that

P-Zunit (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 21 April 2021 16:37 (three years ago) link

i uh hope that fellow gets the help he needs

maf you one two (maffew12), Wednesday, 21 April 2021 16:46 (three years ago) link

He did in that I told him he was done for the day and took over

P-Zunit (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 21 April 2021 22:13 (three years ago) link

in more stupid trainer chronicles...

"Hi Rob - here's the status report for the week. Sorry, I couldn't take roll yesterday as I was presenting."

"I....what? You literally have a partner who wasn't presenting who could have taken roll. For fuck's sake, MS Teams shows you the people who were invited that aren't present in the session, it takes all of 30 seconds to confirm at the beginning of the day."

Filibuster Poindexter (Neanderthal), Friday, 23 April 2021 19:37 (three years ago) link

it's a level of dumb that I have no antibody for

Filibuster Poindexter (Neanderthal), Friday, 23 April 2021 19:38 (three years ago) link

one month passes...

much like public schools and standardized tests, our dumb leaders think that the stupid post-module 'assessments' are these great predictors of individual performance (editor's note: they're not). We have *14 of them* in the Pension course I teach, and they're open-note so they're not hard to pass, and usually only illuminate the poorer performances (or those with test anxiety).

If you cut them for time - you get an interrogation, even though not cutting them means if you run over time in a lesson, you have to cut tiem in another lesson, and then you're rushing and nobody learns anything.

cancel culture club (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 16 June 2021 14:48 (two years ago) link

three weeks pass...

coworkers who cc themselves on their own emails are 9 times out of 10 completely disorganized and have an inbox that is an actual nightmare

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 9 July 2021 18:36 (two years ago) link

My father died suddenly of a heart attack while I was on vacation and I emailed my manager so that he’d tell my coworkers.. he offered to do so.. then “missed” my reply. So when I got back I had to answer a bunch of chipper “how was your vacation?”s in back to back calls which was absolutely brutal. The first one, I didn’t know they didn’t know, so it felt completely heartless that this usually thoughtful person would ask. I want to burn it all down. So instead I booked my second shot for that night so that I’d get sick (and I did) and miss the next day. Fuck you shitty “oh we are all such good friends” fake ass manager. Having a pension is the only thing that’s stopped me from rage-applying to other jobs. This is after six months of my father going through significant mental health problems during a time of great project stress at work, all of which the manager was very aware of and was praising me for withstanding.

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Saturday, 10 July 2021 15:16 (two years ago) link

jesus christ, i'm so sorry to hear about your father, but also the insensitive way that it was handled by your manager at work.

not up to Aerosmith standards (Neanderthal), Saturday, 10 July 2021 15:19 (two years ago) link

thank you. It is nice at least to feel anger occasionally rather than sad. But the first hour when I sat online prior to our calls and none of my decent work friends reached out was so alienating and depressing. I could tell my coworkers were so shocked and sad to see me have to say it too. He fucked that up so bad.

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Saturday, 10 July 2021 15:23 (two years ago) link

❤️

fix up luke shawp (darraghmac), Saturday, 10 July 2021 15:51 (two years ago) link

Wow, yeah he did. So sorry, FFM, what a horrible time <3

kinder, Saturday, 10 July 2021 18:59 (two years ago) link

ugh what a careless jerk

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 10 July 2021 19:22 (two years ago) link

Thank you ❤️ needed to rant somewhere that won’t get me fired! Please no one snitch. xoxo

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Saturday, 10 July 2021 22:23 (two years ago) link

Not a specific coworker, but so tired of having some variation of the same exact conversation with our IT department eight or nine times a year when reviewing the design for a new classroom layout with AV needs:

“So based on the size of the room and throw distances, here’s the projector we recommend. The one we used last time was discontinued, but this is the equivalent model.”

Nope, don’t like that one.

“Okay, no problem, which model would you prefer?”

Not that one.

“Sure, no big deal. But can you let us know what you do like, since you guys will be maintaining it?”

That’s up to the designer and their recommendation.

“Okay, but you didn’t like what they just recommended. How about this other model?”

Oh, no way, we had a bad experience with those.

“Alright, fair, so any recommendations at all for brands or types you prefer?”

Well, we’d prefer you stick to our standards.

“Of course, can you share your standards with us?”

Well, we don’t really have written standards…

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 21 July 2021 21:23 (two years ago) link

ahh yes, the UH method of procedural documentation

all standards are stored "up here"

making splashes at Dan Flashes (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 21 July 2021 21:25 (two years ago) link

*points at head*

making splashes at Dan Flashes (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 21 July 2021 21:26 (two years ago) link

i got yr standards right here

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 21 July 2021 22:39 (two years ago) link

one of the benefits of being burnt out to where I'm phoning it in at work is that I no longer feel compelled to bail out someone who keeps goofing up/failing to do things. like scheduling a meeting for a manager checkpoint with your learners and NEVER INVITING THE MANAGERS TO IT.

making splashes at Dan Flashes (Neanderthal), Friday, 23 July 2021 21:12 (two years ago) link

when we were spinning off from our parent company in 2017, we temporarily called ourselves NewCo until we settled upon our new name. so our intranet site temporarily contained "NewCo" in the URL.

it is four years later, NewCo is still in the URL, and they haven't bought a new URL with our company's name in it and just moved the intranet there. just looks so tacky.

making splashes at Dan Flashes (Neanderthal), Monday, 26 July 2021 14:43 (two years ago) link

Bigwigs: "we've got to stop this crazy attrition, we blame you as trainers for people leaving!!!!"

Me: "Hi, uh, today is day one of class, 20% of all of the classes were no-shows, 5 of them were given the wrong equipment by IT, and despite having a whole day to get everything setup on Friday with their IT, another 25% of the classes can't get into their systems, and they all sound frustrated."

Bigwigs: "Dude, whatever, these things happen."

Me: "But this is why they keep le-"

Bigwigs: "I said DUDE, WHATEVER"

making splashes at Dan Flashes (Neanderthal), Monday, 2 August 2021 16:04 (two years ago) link

classic incident last week

co-worker in email to client: So for some strange reason the inspector contacted me about your request to reschedule the inspection and it is now a week from now

me: the reason the inspector called you was because I sent the email requesting the inspection be rescheduled and gave both yours and my phone numbers in the email. I cc-ed you on the email I sent. I tried calling you to give you the heads up that the inspector might call you.

(privately)
me: I also was surprised that you rescheduled it for so soon because (client) has a lot of preparation to do and I worry they won't be able to do it in time. I had suggested to (client) that we push it back for a month

co-worker: it should be fine

(two days before the rescheduled inspection)
co-worker visits client site and realizes how much preparation work they have to do for the inspection

co-worker in email to client: I have rescheduled the inspection for a month from now.

totally missing from any communication -- "sarahell" was correct in her original assessment that the inspection should have been pushed back a month

sarahell, Thursday, 12 August 2021 05:05 (two years ago) link

ugh! this is my entire working life, swear to christ

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 12 August 2021 05:31 (two years ago) link

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No Particular Place to POLL (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 12 August 2021 05:38 (two years ago) link

xp - ugh!!!

idk if I'm just getting used to this guy, but he is less stupid and annoying than he used to be?

though i swear, we have this charlie brown / lucy pulling away the football thing with his "i will call you in 10 minutes" promises that never happen

sarahell, Thursday, 12 August 2021 08:35 (two years ago) link

i have a coworker who will chat something like “ok sending now” which i take with a grain of salt because i know i wont see it until like 12 hours later

for urgent stuff i have had to bug her repeatedly & i hate it so much but she literally says she’s sending the thing & she ~never~ does it

the worst

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 12 August 2021 16:57 (two years ago) link

i don't understand how people like that rationalize the constant dishonesty

sarahell, Thursday, 12 August 2021 17:57 (two years ago) link

totally

do not just tell me what i want to hear & blow me off. stop acting like a teenage gamer! i’m not your fucking mom ffs

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 12 August 2021 18:17 (two years ago) link

omg

No Particular Place to POLL (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 12 August 2021 18:19 (two years ago) link

it's also like this immediate gratification thing without considering the consequences ... why yes, you pacified me momentarily, but when you don't actually do what you say (and this is an absurd pattern), I get more angry and annoyed than before?

sarahell, Thursday, 12 August 2021 18:21 (two years ago) link

and if you're telling me what I want to hear because your instinct is to not have someone mad at you and avoid conflict ... you are just self-sabotaging tbh

sarahell, Thursday, 12 August 2021 18:23 (two years ago) link

And after a point (which she seems to have already reached) you're not even pacified momentarily, your anger spikes because you know she's bullshitting.

nickn, Thursday, 12 August 2021 18:44 (two years ago) link

^^^ yep!

sarahell, Thursday, 12 August 2021 19:02 (two years ago) link

two weeks pass...

there was a rehire back in April who came back for three days and left, and she claimed she left because her trainer told her that she'd be "yelled at all day". In typical fashion, the default assumption is "the trainer said this", and that it couldn't possibly be a really terrible paraphrase (or fabrication). so when I was asked to look into it, I did and found limited information on the class (it's been almost five months) to determine one way or the other. and we don't record our classes.

so I made some small statement about how we should consider that it's possible that a comment was misconstrued, and got told we "need to be open to feedback and unpack objectively".

like...

there's a difference between saying "You aren't clear when you talk, and you speak too fast", which is someone's subjective opinion

and

saying someone said a very specific thing

which either did or didn't happen. it's not 'feedback' - if we'd recorded the class, we could have proved empirically one way or another whether it happened. and I don't feel like putting a smudge in a co-worker's record over a statement that can't be corroborated by someone who quit 5 months ago. now she'll be known as the "person who told her trainees this job is terrible" when considered for future classes.

Duke Detain (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 1 September 2021 14:17 (two years ago) link

Fucking hell, getting back in the open plan office every day is annoying enough, but one of my coworkers has picked up the most obnoxious habit over the pandemic that kills me a little every time she does it.

Whenever she goes to make a phone call she puts her phone on speaker, then dials the number, waits for it to ring, then picks up the receiver. At full volume. Every time. I don't know why she feels it important to share the full blast dial tone and dialing with us thirty times a day and I also don't even understand it being some "efficiency" thing since it requires pushing an extra button. Drives me absolutely batty.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 8 September 2021 14:13 (two years ago) link

I don't know why but this was a common thing among particular loudmouths in an open plan office I worked at years ago.

kinder, Wednesday, 8 September 2021 15:13 (two years ago) link

i used to do it when i had one of those phones but not in an open plan office, saves having to pick up the handset unnecessarily i guess. but in the same office i had a coworker who used to do all her calls on speakerphone, which led to her yelling into the phone and disturbing everyone. when she was told not to do that she pouted forever. and in like the same month i asked her not to burn a very bad smelling candle and she posted a meme about candles on facebook.

criminally negligible (harbl), Wednesday, 8 September 2021 17:11 (two years ago) link

in like the same month i asked her not to burn a very bad smelling candle and she posted a meme about candles on facebook.

ok you win the stupid, annoying co-worker award -- as in the having of such, not the being ...

sarahell, Thursday, 9 September 2021 02:06 (two years ago) link

harbl did your office not have a policy about candles? i barely used to go to the office and even i knew that there was a policy about candles.

call all destroyer, Thursday, 9 September 2021 02:28 (two years ago) link

Mine even had one about perfume

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 9 September 2021 02:37 (two years ago) link

i'm sure there was a policy against candles but we were a very freewheeling and lawless bunch. i know we didn't want to escalate that kind of thing because then we couldn't use space heaters and it was cold in there.

criminally negligible (harbl), Thursday, 9 September 2021 11:57 (two years ago) link

i took a big space heater from the warehouse and when our office got remodeled someone from general services came to walk around and saw it and said "A RADIATOR?!" because it was one of those ones that was shaped like a radiator, no fan, so that became one of our favorite catch phrases

criminally negligible (harbl), Thursday, 9 September 2021 11:59 (two years ago) link

I stole a big ol' two-foot candle from one of our wedding shoots and light that sucker up every month or so when a dog takes a shit on the floor of our office.

pplains, Thursday, 9 September 2021 12:08 (two years ago) link

I amused the millennials yesterday morning.

https://i.imgur.com/XegnGm1.jpg

pplains, Thursday, 9 September 2021 12:17 (two years ago) link

fwiw, I had just started a meeting.

pplains, Thursday, 9 September 2021 12:18 (two years ago) link

a student in one of the classes I'm supervising (but not teaching) has not been able to get into MS Teams or our system for two days. I was not available to help monitor yesterday due to leading my own training, and today I have five classes I'm watching, whereas the managers for this rep have just the one.

Instead of considering human error as a possibility, they just started IT tickets every time, having the password reset. she's on her third password now, and she claims it 'doesn't work' and insists she's typing it in correctly.

In 5 minutes, I logged in using those credentials and they worked without issue. why are so many people technologically challenged? why does everybody assume it's always a 'technical problem' and not consider the fact that some people shouldn't ever touch a computer.

Duke Detain (Neanderthal), Friday, 10 September 2021 19:01 (two years ago) link

I am working with a group which includes a fairly large age range (20s - 80s) -- yesterday I observed a meeting where a very well-intentioned younger person (probably about 30) wondered why the group was not doing collective work in google docs ... "the olds" have a lot of problems with google docs. Why that is? I don't know. One of the consultants that regularly works with my org is "an old" and he also struggles with google docs, so everything gets sent back and forth in word and excel.

Being in my late 40s, I have a sense of humility about it, because it won't be that long before I, too, am an old.

sarahell, Friday, 10 September 2021 19:49 (two years ago) link

I wonder how much of it comes down to how people were trained to use computers/software. I know in high school in the mid-90s we were taught about security and how we should never, ever allow others to use or access our documents, so I could imagine someone older and more settled in their ways being kind of flummoxed by the turnaround to everything being shared and collaborative. Fortunately I was (am, he asks hopefully) young enough to see the progression towards collaborative working and seeing how it made more sense and could be more intuitive. I don't know, I can see how the idea of everyone accessing everything might feel kind of anathema to people of a certain age.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 10 September 2021 19:53 (two years ago) link

I think some of it involves working in the cloud, and where things are stored, and how to access the shared files, and that some people have mirrored copies of the Google Drive on their desktops that sync with the cloud versions, and others don't, such that there are different ways to access and work in Google Docs as opposed to "one way" which ... for people who learned computers as middle-aged adults (as opposed to as kids), could be challenging and annoying.

sarahell, Friday, 10 September 2021 20:00 (two years ago) link

I had a co-worker who was supposed to be updating a shared Excel file, then save and close it down, and every single time would manage to save a local copy and work on that. This was pre- anything syncing to clouds.

kinder, Friday, 10 September 2021 20:44 (two years ago) link

lol we had that issue a LOT

Duke Detain (Neanderthal), Friday, 10 September 2021 20:58 (two years ago) link

ugh my coworker does this all the time & and t drives me round the bend

i do all her updates in the shared cloud version then the (downloaded, desktop) version she sends to her client is completely different & wrong raaaaaagh

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 10 September 2021 22:53 (two years ago) link

my coworkers are roughly mid 40’s to late 50’s so we’re probably all technically olds

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 10 September 2021 22:54 (two years ago) link

looking at Neanderthal’s issue a bit back and, having experienced it, I wonder if the support never checked to make sure the person was using both username and password, and if they even could connect to anything at all. who knows, maybe Teams was trying to authenticate to a previous job with new credentials

software is terrible and maybe the skill to work around that is not something a sane person should require off job

(She’s probably just fucking it up tho)

mh, Saturday, 11 September 2021 02:12 (two years ago) link

the frustrating thing for me is that although I know *some* troubleshooting, I'm not an IT person, have no background in it, and one of the things that made me leave my previous role was that as we continued to upgrade or change platforms, more unique quirks that nobody knew how to solve kept popping up, because we often rushed things into production with insufficient testing/product knowledge. and these things would affect the quality of my team's work and I'd get blamed even though I had no control over it or idea how to fix these things. I'd get pulled into several-hours long triage calls to 'help fix' where all I'd do is every 4 hours or so test something, while I was supposed to be doing my real job.

so I become a full-time trainer and it was heaven for a bit because outside of a handful of minor tech issues that are simple enough for me to solve, I had NONE of that to worry about anymore...

...until the pandemic and everybody started working from home. the day before class begins, everybody is supposed to receive their equipment and test it the day before class starts, and there's literally supposed to be a checklist they're supposed to complete with each person.

the location managers never do what we demand ask them, they don't keep us in the loop on who is having problems or has tickets open, 25% of the hires don't show up to the check-in to set up equipment and enter Day 1 of training having set nothing up. and now we're shipping equipment rather than having people pick it up, and after 2 months of trying that, haven't improved. People get damaged equipment in the mail because the dummies don't pack the shit properly (like literally 5% of all monitors shipped get cracked in transit).

so we get to Day 1 of class and we can't even properly teach because 30% of the class has concurrent technical issues of varying complexity, some of which I know how to fix, some I don't, and we can barely teach because we're stopping every 2 minutes to put our fingers in another hole in the dam and screen-sharing with someone. at least 10% of people have tickets open that prevent them from accessing systems and they don't get resolved until Day 2. the people who didn't get their equipment sometimes don't get it until Day 3 (and then they have to be moved to a later class because they're too far behind).

and then the most audacious fucking thing I saw is that apparently one of our partner sites actually TERMINATES new hires who have equipment issues beyond their control and fall too far behind in class. No finding another assignment for them, moving them to a later class, no...the assholes actually term them. how in the fuck do you have the balls to take away a job (even if temporary) you offered someone because the IT department that sent them equipment fucked up or something Gremlin-y happened?

they actually wrote that in the IT escalation request - "Please help fix this issue as soon as possible or we will have to term this employee". what in the actual fuck.

it's hell right now, and people blame WFH but it's like....we've had a year to get this right and we've actually gotten worse at it :). and now I spent my time being amateur IT guy which is WHAT I CAME HERE TO AVOID.

Duke Detain (Neanderthal), Saturday, 11 September 2021 03:19 (two years ago) link

like every class, we have one or two people who literally don't have a work computer trying to attend training for 2-3 days, not able to see anything, just listening on their phones (or pulling up MS Teams on their phone in Guest mode on a tiny screen).

and then leadership asks WHY IS ATTRITION SO BAD

Duke Detain (Neanderthal), Saturday, 11 September 2021 03:21 (two years ago) link

(why don't they have a work computer? since we ship the equipment so close to the training start date, any delays in parcel shipping timing basically fuck the delivery. some hires are stupid and go out of town the weekend it's supposed to be delivered and aren't there to sign for it. a hire gives their wrong address. but mostly just delays in shipment.)

Duke Detain (Neanderthal), Saturday, 11 September 2021 03:22 (two years ago) link

Xps to sarahell
I was forced into taking over scheduling for our two stores even tho I almost never work in there, so I decided we weren’t doing these stupid fuckin paper calendars anymore (do you know how hard it is to keep paper schedules updated for two stores, the boss, and me, when people are constantly asking for time off and switching shifts??) and I switched to a google sheet. but I had to twist my boss’ arm to get her to ok it. For months I had to keep sending her screenshots of the sheet bc she just just refused to figure out how to look at it on her ph using the sheets app. She’s in her late 60s but she also just doesn’t try, even when it benefits the business to update the technology we use.

I’m also dealing with a staff member who keeps dumping her personal issues on me in long winded texts, when I’m not actually working, then when I reply and inform her of the boundaries she’s violating (which I’ve clearly stated to her) she tells me she’s busy with her family, as if I’m the one imposing on her. FYI I have never met this woman in person, but bc I’m a senior staff member she’s decided that I’m somehow responsible for managing her emotions and talking her off the edge of a panic attack whenever she gets worked up over something. Like, I now unwillingly know she grew up in cult, has been sexually assaulted, her ex’s parents are dying, she gets heavy periods, and she was also sexually assaulted *over the phone* the other week.

just1n3, Sunday, 19 September 2021 10:37 (two years ago) link

just1n3 -- omg, ugh, I am so sorry. Yeah it's the "just doesn't try" part that can make you just want to quit. ... your co-worker sounds like ... one of my clients tbh.

My primary co-worker has actually become way more self-aware about many of his annoying habits. It's become quite nice, actually ... and he actually has demonstrated that he has a sense of humor. Like, this guy is a classic namedropper. The most hilarious example so far has been a couple years ago when we were discussing our org's Google Drive and file systems. I think I was complaining that one of our clients seemed incapable of putting files in folders. And my co-worker responds, "I actually know the guy who invented the folder."

So the other day we were talking about what drew us to be members of and organize DIY venues, and he was talking about going to punk shows as a teenager in the 80s, and mentions Fugazi, and says, "You know, my friend, Ian, who I talk to every other day." And I said, "You talk to Ian MacKaye every other day?" And he said, "No, I was joking. I don't know Ian MacKaye personally."

sarahell, Sunday, 19 September 2021 17:02 (two years ago) link

Haa... I've got no beefs with anyone at my company, but that last one hit home.

We've been switching our subscriber email database from one company to another, which has involved a lot of Zoom meetings where we and the new service study spreadsheets. Exciting!

One "random" subscriber they brought up was a guy who's well-known to us, but maybe not to a bunch of Chicagoland tech workers. Nonetheless, a co-worker pipes up and goes on to describe the guy's social standing, "He was a member of Gov. Clinton's administration and has since created a very successful company that ..." and the rest of us were "Shut. Up. And. Quit. Embarrassing. Us. In. Front. Of. The. Yankees. Please."

pplains, Sunday, 19 September 2021 17:16 (two years ago) link

one of my instructors got this email from an actual team manager today (only edited for redacting names):

"Thank you for reaching out I have had a conversation with (REDACTED) regarding his constant system issues he did reach out on Friday due to system issues however it was 6 pm and IT was no longer in the building to assist , This morning he reached out as well regarding system issues IT did take control of his computer and notice he does have a defective computer he is supposed to come in today to switch out his computer and he will be staying on site until the end of the day, I did inform (REDACTED) that if he continue to have system issues after this then he will have to come back to office permanently to work. As far as his assessments I have received 1 and 2 from him, He is adamant about getting 3 and 4 done today after training I have also spoken to him and asked why hasn't he shared his assessments with (REDACTED) and (REDACTED) he responded that he thought they were supposed to be shared with his TL I informed him to please send over all test scores to (REDACTED) and (REDACTED) once he has finished 3 and 4. I do apologize on his behalf and please know that you guys will have assessments 3 and 4 by tomorrow. Thanks for all you guys do."

Gardyloominati (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 22 September 2021 16:03 (two years ago) link

The coworker who is trying to "get back" at our bosses for eliminating the work from home option by cooking fish in a SHARED FUCKING OFFICE every day this week just might drive me to quit. Three days in a row I'm so nauseous I can't eat lunch.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 22 September 2021 17:11 (two years ago) link

I love fish. I would never cook it in an office. what the actual fuck.

Gardyloominati (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 22 September 2021 17:12 (two years ago) link

that'd get you dropped out of a window here

Gardyloominati (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 22 September 2021 17:12 (two years ago) link

David Lynch to thread!

I, the Jukebox Jury (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 22 September 2021 17:13 (two years ago) link

When people microwave fish it is bad enough.

I, the Jukebox Jury (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 22 September 2021 17:13 (two years ago) link

lol, to be clear, she did microwave it. It's atrocious. Two of us said something to her yesterday and her response was, "if they are going to make me come in every single day, they have to deal with my food smells". EXCEPT THE BOSSES AREN'T HERE TO SMELL IT AND YOU ARE PUNISHING THE REST OF US.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 22 September 2021 17:17 (two years ago) link

yeah that reads more like "I want to eat fish and this is the excuse I have found that suits it"

Gardyloominati (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 22 September 2021 17:20 (two years ago) link

you need to cook something REALLY stinky tomorrow

Gardyloominati (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 22 September 2021 17:20 (two years ago) link

My mind is reeling with possibilities of how to top this. I'm mostly just stunned, every place I've ever worked had a basic understanding that some foods were just not okay for an open office meal.

I've got nothing against fish, in fact I've enjoyed some wonderful seafood in my life, but there is something about the smell in a non-restaurant setting that absolutely nauseates me.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 22 September 2021 17:22 (two years ago) link

I mean there are also people in the office that don't find fish delicious and are overwhelmed by the aroma in any environment. one of my classmates in 4th grade kept screaming at me to put down my tuna fish sandwich cos he was too grossed out to eat his lunch.

Gardyloominati (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 22 September 2021 17:25 (two years ago) link

maybe a cow shit bagel will top things

Gardyloominati (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 22 September 2021 17:26 (two years ago) link

When I was office sitting, we had a guy who'd nuke fish and stink up the area. Berating him made no difference. Some folks are gleefully wankers.

Close quarters makes any mild smell more noticeable and the bad smells (fish, buttery popcorn, over-applied perfume/cologne) nausea-inducing. One guy used to OCD have plain toast every day, and I got to hate that smell.

the body of a spider... (scampering alpaca), Wednesday, 22 September 2021 17:33 (two years ago) link

Yes. Also have a weird thing as my sense of smell ever so slowly comes back after COVID, I am somewhat extra-sensitive to whatever I do smell.

I, the Jukebox Jury (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 22 September 2021 18:23 (two years ago) link

Yes. Also have a weird thing as my sense of smell ever so slowly comes back after COVID, I am somewhat extra-sensitive to whatever I do smell.

I, the Jukebox Jury (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 22 September 2021 18:23 (two years ago) link

strong smells can trigger headaches for me and i would straight up murder someone who was heating up fish everyday.

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 22 September 2021 18:49 (two years ago) link

jon is this the same co-worker who made popcorn every day years ago

Gardyloominati (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 22 September 2021 18:50 (two years ago) link

haha, good memory! Nope, that was at my old job. No more popcorn but I can say that fish is NOT an upgrade.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 22 September 2021 18:54 (two years ago) link

some foods were just not okay for an open office meal.

honestly, a lot of these biases end up being super white supremacist in practice tbh. Like, whenever I see / read someone complaining about "how dare someone microwave fish in a shared office," I think, "what whitebread middle American racist shithole did you come from that makes you confident that fish smells bad, followed by, can you stop being an asshole."

sarahell, Saturday, 25 September 2021 22:47 (two years ago) link

When we first moved to England from China my wife wanted to take a lunchbox of freshly cooked, hot food to my son at his primary school, which was literally a one-minute walk across the road, so surely NBD, yes? We were surprised that the school flipped out about this every time, the policy was, either you have cold sandwiches or you have fried stuff from the canteen, wanting anything else was taken as an insult to the school. They inspected the food and gave us pamphlets about healthy eating which seemed to be written for parents who thought it was OK to feed their kids exclusively on crisps, it was really clear that they thought "don't know what that weird foreign stuff is, but it must be bad." So yeah, I also feel there is something really wrong with work/school lunch.

edited to reflect developments which occurred (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 25 September 2021 23:03 (two years ago) link

Im a sometime fisherman son of fishermen from an island off an island in the atlantic ocean and i can confirm that not wanting your shared workspace to smell of reheated fish is not super white supremacist

fix up luke shawp (darraghmac), Sunday, 26 September 2021 01:02 (two years ago) link

lol

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 26 September 2021 02:01 (two years ago) link

xp - you are white though, yes?

sarahell, Sunday, 26 September 2021 02:26 (two years ago) link

I actually like the fish smell, so I guess we all can be glad that I don't share a workplace with you

sarahell, Sunday, 26 September 2021 02:36 (two years ago) link

Holy shit, I’ve seen a lot of bullshit on this board in the past but being called a white supremacist for believing that fish is not okay for a shared workspace really takes the fucking cake.

Jesus.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Sunday, 26 September 2021 04:36 (two years ago) link

Here’s a good one. My boss made a homophobic remark about a gay coworker and I complained about it and got fired.

Shaun, Sunday, 26 September 2021 07:30 (two years ago) link

fucking hell Shaun, that's horrible. I suppose you've been given a gift being out of a work environment like that but it's still awful.

boxedjoy, Sunday, 26 September 2021 08:41 (two years ago) link

here's an Australian article about the issue:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-09-14/is-dislike-of-smelly-food-actually-cultural-intolerance/8891618

This article also refers to the racist component of complaining about food smells
https://roguecollective.ie/ten-microaggressions-in-the-workplace

it shows up in this tv show:
https://www.esquire.com/uk/culture/a36133403/adjani-salmon-dreaming-whilst-black/

sarahell, Sunday, 26 September 2021 10:19 (two years ago) link

sarahell what kind of fish was that??

I have heard of people going crazy over smells they aren't used to, curries and whatnot, that's their problem yeah.

In my previous office someone bought a plastic pouch for cooking eggs in the microwave. A few of us had to beg her to give it up cuz we thought we were going to pass out. She didn't seem to have a clue what we were smelling.

maf you one two (maffew12), Sunday, 26 September 2021 12:00 (two years ago) link

i don't think "fish" unlike curry, kimchi, etc. is associated with a race or ethnicity. popcorn also smells bad. as do cheap candles. i also do not like the smell of overripe bananas. def wouldn't think of complaining about a person's cultural food.

also people just microwave fish for longer than they should, would probably be fine otherwise

certified juice therapist (harbl), Sunday, 26 September 2021 12:17 (two years ago) link

Lots of stuff that is actually delicious makes grim smells in an office microwave.

kinder, Sunday, 26 September 2021 12:50 (two years ago) link

not to mention it's distracting. I love fish but smelling it for hours while I'm trying to work is not pleasant. esp after i've eaten, am not hungry anymore, and not likely to be enticed by its smell.

Gardyloominati (Neanderthal), Sunday, 26 September 2021 13:50 (two years ago) link

also yeah, not really getting "fish" as a cultural thing! unless it's a type of fish that is a regional delicacy (Japanese freshwater eel), as opposed to say, salmon or haddock, which are eaten everywhere, it's not the same thing as like complaining about someone's tandoori chicken or Jamaican meat patties.

Gardyloominati (Neanderthal), Sunday, 26 September 2021 14:01 (two years ago) link

a coworker made a bastardized seafood “bouillabasse” and brought the whole lot of it in a crockpot to work, and set it up in a empty cubicle in our work area as an “hey i made soup” station where it stayed all day

pretty sure that smell seeped into my skin and is still there

it was not cultural at all, it was “9 kinds of fish/shellfish simmering all day is not a smell you want in the work area”

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 26 September 2021 14:33 (two years ago) link

Beastie Boys made a mean B-Boy bouillabasse

Gardyloominati (Neanderthal), Sunday, 26 September 2021 14:37 (two years ago) link

Is this trolling

fix up luke shawp (darraghmac), Sunday, 26 September 2021 23:30 (two years ago) link

Trawling, more like.

but also fuck you (unperson), Sunday, 26 September 2021 23:33 (two years ago) link

Always enjoy tuning into ilx to find out things like, when I get a migraine triggered by strong odors, it’s actually because I’m a white supremacist.

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Sunday, 26 September 2021 23:43 (two years ago) link

I'm saying -- what people feel is an "inappropriate food smell" is mostly based on cultural norms and where they grew up and what food smelled like growing up. Because most of us live in places like the U.S. and the UK where white supremacy exists, the cultural norms of that dominant white culture end up being prescribed as "universal". It becomes "microwaved fish smells bad" as opposed to "it smells bad to me" and acknowledging your own cultural biases.

And I hope we are beyond having to do the remedial definition of white supremacy, which has shifted from "member of KKK" etc. ... like, I see the food smell issue as somewhat illustrative of the ideas around structural racism and white supremacy -- these things are ingrained biases and assumptions and it doesn't make you evil to have them. Just that, to be a better person, you should acknowledge you have them and, in general, not be a dick about complaining what other people's food smells like.

sarahell, Monday, 27 September 2021 01:04 (two years ago) link

... in a way that hurts them, makes them feel unwelcome, etc. ... complaining about it on ILX where assumedly your actual coworkers won't be hurt or offended is way less bad.

sarahell, Monday, 27 September 2021 01:05 (two years ago) link

Remember, kids: If there's a shitty food smell in your office, wait for a non-white person to complain first. Then it's OK to chime in. Otherwise, you're being oppressive.

but also fuck you (unperson), Monday, 27 September 2021 01:25 (two years ago) link

What about ppl who like fish and grew up in fish-loving families that think fish-smell in workplace is still a no-go?

Gardyloominati (Neanderthal), Monday, 27 September 2021 01:35 (two years ago) link

I get what sarahell is saying for sure. But in my case, and I’m sure it’s similar for others here, a person of any ethnicity (they are usually white in my case) nuking some salmon or tuna will drive me right out of the room for an extended “break” everytime.

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 27 September 2021 01:49 (two years ago) link

I'm still not buying "hating fish smell" = cultural bias since if you grow up on the East Coast, chances are you're exposed to "fish" culture. And 72% of US fishermen are white.

Obviously I acknowledge "eww your food is stinky" CAN be a product of cultural intolerance, but fish is a reach

Gardyloominati (Neanderthal), Monday, 27 September 2021 01:52 (two years ago) link

the smell is not that bad… you people are soft

brimstead, Monday, 27 September 2021 01:53 (two years ago) link

I say this as someone who has never complained about food smells too

Xpost

Gardyloominati (Neanderthal), Monday, 27 September 2021 01:53 (two years ago) link

i envisage where you're coming from, sarahell, but also you're going way overboard

i mean i have lived in the midwest, but also the smell of microwave popcorn is among the worst things in the world

maybe first we should have workplaces that don't involve having to smell each others heated food packets

mookieproof, Monday, 27 September 2021 01:54 (two years ago) link

Yeah c’mon, fish smell permeates everything and lingers in an enclosed space. If you eat a cold sandwich or salad near me, I’m not going to smell like your meal until I shower and wash my clothes. If you microwave fish and eat it near me, I just might. This has fuck-all to do with anything but situational awareness and caring about the comfort of others around you.

epistantophus, Monday, 27 September 2021 01:56 (two years ago) link

Cold fish = totally fine

epistantophus, Monday, 27 September 2021 01:57 (two years ago) link

Throwing fish at ppl the best

Gardyloominati (Neanderthal), Monday, 27 September 2021 01:58 (two years ago) link

maybe first we should have workplaces that don't involve having to smell each others heated food packets

― mookieproof, Sunday, September 26, 2021 6:54 PM (thirty-four minutes ago)

I agree! I think a lot of these workplace breakrooms that are used for food preparation don't have adequate ventilation. Like, compared to a restaurant kitchen? ... Definitely the design of the spaces contributes to the conflict.

sarahell, Monday, 27 September 2021 02:30 (two years ago) link

i'm barely skimming this bullshit but fish is hard to reheat and is good cold

call all destroyer, Monday, 27 September 2021 02:39 (two years ago) link

otoh, also if anything in a shared work microwave grosses you out, figure out another lunch solution.

call all destroyer, Monday, 27 September 2021 02:42 (two years ago) link

Yeah only way I'll eat fish at work lunch is cold in a salad or sandwich.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Monday, 27 September 2021 03:41 (two years ago) link

Xpost How, if the break room is near your desk?

Gardyloominati (Neanderthal), Monday, 27 September 2021 03:41 (two years ago) link

Granted I haven't worked in an office for 9 years but there was a long period of time where I did and break room was mega close by to my cube

Gardyloominati (Neanderthal), Monday, 27 September 2021 03:42 (two years ago) link

I was once criticized at work for microwaving sauerkraut, but instead of chalking their criticisms up as a microaggression against my German heritage, I apologized and never did it again. (It didn’t even smell bad to me!)

Porking level G4 (Boring, Maryland), Monday, 27 September 2021 04:09 (two years ago) link

that does not smell very strong in my experience.

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 27 September 2021 13:37 (two years ago) link

If the use of a microwave annoys you you can always heat M&S sausage rolls in one. Seemed to kill the one i tried it with pretty dead.

Stevolende, Monday, 27 September 2021 14:08 (two years ago) link

Smell of burnt microwave is dope

Gardyloominati (Neanderthal), Monday, 27 September 2021 15:57 (two years ago) link

the one thing that I definitely feel is an "inappropriate food smell" is burnt microwave popcorn. In my 20s I worked in a warehouse with a bunch of dudes in their 20s, and the ratio of burnt microwave popcorn to microwave popcorn popped successfully without burning was way too high.

sarahell, Monday, 27 September 2021 17:38 (two years ago) link

Forget about reheated fish, those who eat cheese and onion Pringles in an enclosed space need to be fired immediately. Now there's a nauseating smell.

(I happen to love the smell of plain microwave popcorn; 'butter' flavour though is obvious grounds for dismissal.)

Sam Weller, Monday, 27 September 2021 17:41 (two years ago) link

we are forgetting mcdonalds fries. both revolting and alluring at the same time.

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 27 September 2021 18:24 (two years ago) link

the thing with a lot of pungent foods is that people bring them to work as leftovers and can just loosely set the lid on top of the microwaveable container, so the smell leakage is minimal

the lady who I used to work near who would just slap a raw fish filet, skin on, on to a plate and microwave it, was on a completely different level

the worst smell, which actually dissipated relatively quickly, was the incident where someone decided to microwave a hamburger, but walked away after starting the microwave. apparently typed in 10 minutes instead of 1 minute, which became clear when the fire alarm went off and we all had to evacuate the building. this incident was kind of funny and not nearly as irritating as fish lady

mh, Monday, 27 September 2021 19:03 (two years ago) link

imo if you break the social contract a little once in a great while, no big deal

if you’re scorching popcorn or desecrating the area with fish daily, wtf

mh, Monday, 27 September 2021 19:05 (two years ago) link

i wouldn't feel safe around someone with that much hatred in their heart

maf you one two (maffew12), Monday, 27 September 2021 19:08 (two years ago) link

the fish lady was confirmed to be a jerk when someone encountered her outside of work

pretty sure she knew what she was doing

mh, Monday, 27 September 2021 19:52 (two years ago) link

distributing poison apples to schoolchildren no doubt

maf you one two (maffew12), Monday, 27 September 2021 20:17 (two years ago) link

The pungent fake “butter” flavor/smell from popcorn is due to diacetyl, which is also a flavor component in certain fruit yogurts. That’s why sometimes you can smell a yogurt cup from like a mile away when someone opens it. Weirdly, it’s also a natural part of the flavor profile of coffee.

epistantophus, Monday, 27 September 2021 20:31 (two years ago) link

the popcorn lung chemical

certified juice therapist (harbl), Monday, 27 September 2021 20:33 (two years ago) link

ah yes the stuff that tells me I'm screwing up my homebrew beer

maf you one two (maffew12), Monday, 27 September 2021 20:48 (two years ago) link

i think we can all agree complaining about bathroom smells is just plain dumb right?

back when I was still office bound, I was ripping a grumpy and although I courtesy flushed, my GI system was on overdrive that day. and apparently so was the guy next to me, it was a sort of shitting-in-stereo.

this jackass at the urinal loudly and obnoxiously, obviously for us to hear, said "JESUS, IT FUCKING *STINKS*". I mean....you're the one who walked into the doodoo room, what did you expect? cupcakes?

Gardyloominati (Neanderthal), Monday, 27 September 2021 21:01 (two years ago) link

I’ve idly wondered wtf people eat or what they’ve done to their gut flora, but I’m not going to yell about it

mh, Monday, 27 September 2021 21:55 (two years ago) link

All this is just screaming "no offices have disease defying ventilation wtf do not go there wfh 4ever" to me

Jaq, Monday, 27 September 2021 22:58 (two years ago) link

I was ripping a grumpy... this jackass at the urinal loudly and obnoxiously, obviously for us to hear, said "JESUS, IT FUCKING *STINKS*". I mean....you're the one who walked into the doodoo room, what did you expect? cupcakes?

now this is that real BJO content

Jaq otm but the social media person at work was microwaving popcorn today* so I got to make a "drama popping off on twitter?" gag while internally thinking I've been seeing popcorn jokes on social media since before they were born

* smelled fine imo

bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Tuesday, 28 September 2021 02:23 (two years ago) link

one of our contractors recorded a video of themselves and played the video to make it appear they were on the web cam while they were off doing otehr stuff, and somehow got away with this for weeks.

Gardyloominati (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 29 September 2021 15:29 (two years ago) link

idk that they're stupid, pretty clever move, but how nobody noticed for weeks is beyond me

Gardyloominati (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 29 September 2021 15:32 (two years ago) link

if his input mattered that little then more power to him for tricking the company like he's Keanu Reeves in Speed.

maf you one two (maffew12), Wednesday, 29 September 2021 15:37 (two years ago) link

he was supposed to be in training, like actually participating. it was discovered because he would get called on, and there'd be a pause, and someone would hear him talking but his mouth wouldn't be moving (as he was calling in on a phone from a remote location or something).

I made the Speed joke earlier lol

Gardyloominati (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 29 September 2021 15:47 (two years ago) link

they showed me the pic. it looked like when you take a video of a tv screen on your phone, and it wasn't even centered, the border was crooked. they also looked in his record and he hadn't completed any assignments or gone into the modules.

and when he got a verbal warning, he apparently (this time live on camera for real) started yelling, screaming, and throwing things around his house.

this has been quite a weird day at work!

Gardyloominati (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 29 September 2021 19:12 (two years ago) link

Haha
He sounds like an amateur tbh
When my kid was doing homeschooling in lockdown he got me to take a photo of him sitting smiling which he then used as a background and waited off-screen only to appear as his own double on the other side of the screen at an opportune moment.

kinder, Wednesday, 29 September 2021 19:33 (two years ago) link

lol genius!

Gardyloominati (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 29 September 2021 19:39 (two years ago) link

the name-dropping co-worker again:

we were discussing the problems of curating a space by committee and I brought up an electronic music festival I was an organizing committee member of for a couple years and how a lot of the artists/aesthetic was based on historical experimental electronic music like Pierre Henry and musique concrete

co-worker: actually, I attended a concert at Pierre Henry's house in Paris

me: of course you did.

sarahell, Saturday, 2 October 2021 18:57 (two years ago) link

for context: we are essentially non-profit real estate and construction consultants.

sarahell, Saturday, 2 October 2021 18:58 (two years ago) link

and when he got a verbal warning, he apparently (this time live on camera for real) started yelling, screaming, and throwing things around his house.

who in the fuck does this?!

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 2 October 2021 19:00 (two years ago) link

Was he from Citrus County or Marion?

Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Saturday, 2 October 2021 20:04 (two years ago) link

this is an adult, right? Not a 4 year old child?

sarahell, Sunday, 3 October 2021 05:08 (two years ago) link

presumably.

so we have this IT chat where if Reps in training have major technical issues (i.e. can't sign into applications, locked out of system), we can 'escalate' their ticket for them. all we're supposed to do is dump the ticket # and the name of the person who called it in in the chat. I usually try to probe and find out what the issue is so I can add a description, but this is really just a courtesy, as this information should all be in the ticket.

normally all they do is reply to say "ticket closed/resolved" or "escalated to next party" or "left voicemail for the rep" - or telling us if the ticket shouldn't have been started. it's been smooth for the most part.

then this one rogue IT person today starts grilling me about four of the tickets I escalated, asking me detailed questions on what each learner tried, can I have them try this, that, etc. I'm supervising/teaching classes, am just a middleman, and I had to pointedly ask "can't someone just contact these four people - they're on MS Teams and can be called, that might be easier than me playing telephone with you". Common sense, right?

then after all of this, turns out three of the four tickets are actually ALREADY RESOLVED and IT just hadn't gotten around to telling us yet (that's fine - they're very busy). Instead of doing what a normal person would do and replying to my status update request with "three of these tickets are resolved" and giving me an update on the one that was still open, I get grilled about all four tickets as if all four are still open.

nice waste of time on an already busy day/week.

Gardyloominati (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 6 October 2021 13:50 (two years ago) link

oh and it turns out all of the questions they asked me were literally documented in the IT ticket by the person who took the call.

Gardyloominati (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 6 October 2021 14:05 (two years ago) link

Have you started looking for work elsewhere? It seems like this workplace really sucks for u.

sarahell, Thursday, 7 October 2021 01:05 (two years ago) link

I tried once half-heartedly three or four years ago and got very little hits other than a competitor offering me 33% of my current salary to do the same job. I guess seniority has more perks than I realized. but admittedly I didn't try as hard as I could have.

at this point I'm trusting the devil I know, but assuming this caregiving arrangement eventually alleviates, I'll be ready to spread my wings.

Gardyloominati (Neanderthal), Thursday, 7 October 2021 01:34 (two years ago) link

i know a little bit about what you do and given the current labor market it might be worth taking a casual look around

call all destroyer, Thursday, 7 October 2021 01:37 (two years ago) link

yeah I gotta rewrite my resume but I think it's about that time.

very least maybe I can get a retention bonus

Gardyloominati (Neanderthal), Thursday, 7 October 2021 01:46 (two years ago) link

Sounds like you’re in learning & development, maybe some roles would open up with a dumb certification to get past the resume filter?

mh, Thursday, 7 October 2021 01:58 (two years ago) link

correct and hmm that isn't a bad idea actually!

Gardyloominati (Neanderthal), Thursday, 7 October 2021 02:06 (two years ago) link

Going by what I’ve learned about your coworkers here, you could definitely use dumb certification.

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 7 October 2021 02:16 (two years ago) link

lol

Gardyloominati (Neanderthal), Thursday, 7 October 2021 02:19 (two years ago) link

solid lol

sarahell, Thursday, 7 October 2021 20:01 (two years ago) link

"What is the I Award You No Points cert?"

Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Thursday, 7 October 2021 23:15 (two years ago) link

two weeks pass...

there's this occasional rep we use as a trainer now and then when we don't have better options available. he has a temper and usually tends to give up at teh first sign of trouble. he also makes it impossible to connect with him during his class.

most facilitators know to occasionally check their MS Teams PMs during stopping points, but not him, he ignores them for 8 hours. he also ignores messages that you send him *in the training chat itself*, (even if you tag him so that it pings). so the only way to get him a message is to interrupt him in the middle of his training, which he then gets annoyed about.

he also spends half the training talking about himself and the amazing things he does.

Gardyloominati (Neanderthal), Monday, 25 October 2021 16:07 (two years ago) link

Multiple-monitor and single-monitor people differ in their level of responsiveness to chat during Teams meetings, I have found. Something to do with monitors but I'm not sure in which direction.

mothersbaugh of invention (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 25 October 2021 16:59 (two years ago) link

(which is not to excuse someone being stupid and annoying and narcissistic, of course)

mothersbaugh of invention (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 25 October 2021 17:00 (two years ago) link

Not sure how many he has. Most of our employees have two, but not all (including me - I'm rocking just one)

Gardyloominati (Neanderthal), Monday, 25 October 2021 17:02 (two years ago) link

one month passes...

This could have been posted in a few threads, but I'm just sitting here baffled by some of the choices being made. During a significant spike in cases, fresh off the news and still unsettled science about Omicron, we are being told that we are having a holiday luncheon for our group. Next week. For 90 people. Buffet style. Indoors, in one single room. Testing prior "encouraged", but not required. Less than 2 weeks out from Thanksgiving.

I'm not going to attend. Even so I'm baffled that anyone thought this was a good idea and was encouraging of it.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 2 December 2021 14:47 (two years ago) link

wtffffffff

a (waterface), Thursday, 2 December 2021 15:49 (two years ago) link

that is cray cray

a (waterface), Thursday, 2 December 2021 15:50 (two years ago) link

There are approx 1/4 of the kids in my child's school year off with covid or suspected (waiting for pcr results) and about 40 of the parents are apparently going for a meal tonight. Tbf some of them have already had covid, but this is gonna be a superspreader event - just in time for a lovely covidy run up to Christmas.

kinder, Thursday, 2 December 2021 15:55 (two years ago) link

There are just some people who want to rush blindingly forward back into "normal" so badly that they lose common sense.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 2 December 2021 15:56 (two years ago) link

they lose common sense

'common sense' usually amounts to whatever wins the contest between 'I desire this' and 'I fear this'. You've just incorporated what you know about covid into the 'I fear this' side of the equation. Me, too.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 2 December 2021 18:36 (two years ago) link

just need a little whine.

i took today off because i just needed a break. i've been at this job 1.5 years and my manager has shown herself to be .. terrible. she offers no coherent vision for the complicated responsibilities that i'm tasked with, and when i try to offer something, because frankly i need it to function, she obstructs me. i'm starting to lose my patience with it in meetings. i've gotten irate with her in group meetings twice now. everyone else i work with feels similarly as me, and i'm not even the person who has been most snarky to her, but still, i'm troubled about it. she does not have the balls to try and get me fired, i don't think. i don't have the heart to do battle with these kinds of people either. but i'm too old for this shit, and my patience has grown shorter! i sort of want to play the ice-cold long game and make her suffer, because frankly i'm smarter and better than she is. but i'm struggling with burnout and tbh my heart is bigger than my desire for revenge. i have also tried the "detach and check-out more, pretend to pay attention to whatever random in-the-moment thing she asks you to do for no good reason, and then don't do it" route - which DOES work pretty well with her, frnakly - but which turns work into an existential crisis every day. i have been in the workforce for 10 years after getting my graduate degree and i keep getting handed these childish, god-awful managers who want to have their egos stroked, hands held, feelings coddled, and then to be able to treat everyone who works for them like subjects in some kind of fucked up royal court. fuck all of them!

Nedlene Grendel as Basenji Holmo (map), Saturday, 11 December 2021 00:46 (two years ago) link

my unscientific guess is that 75% of people who are managers hate being managers and resent the fact that they're accountable not just for themselves, but other people. whether it's resentment that their employees are actually asking them to help, resenting the fact that they're upset about something, or oblivious to the fact that even if they aren't abusive, nasty bosses, their erratic inconsistency drives their employees almost just as insane as if they were....it's a type.

sounds like your boss. honestly I've felt the same way, some people used to ask me why I got so frustrated, "you're making a good salary, you're well respected, you get good reviews, and sure, shit is going sideways, but nobody blames YOU for it", they wouldn't get that I actually tie my own feelings of self-worth into my performance and want to be proud of what I do and get frustrated when I can't.

is this boss mostly ineffective or do you think she is threatened by you being smarter and more accomplished than her, like she's afraid you'll be in her spot years later?

hopefully this review helped someone (Neanderthal), Saturday, 11 December 2021 01:01 (two years ago) link

honestly i don't know. i do think that she feels pretty insecure. i don't think she feels threatened by me specifically. this doesn't seem like the kind of place where someone gets demoted, it seems like the kind of place where people either slowly move upward of people like them, or just stay in their place forever if everyone feels like they have to put up with them. but i have heard a story that a demotion happened in the last ten years (under a different director). she no longer has the majority of people under her on her side, i think that's part of it. she also seems to be trying the patience of other people who are at her level or higher, but i have very little visibility into that.

thanks for your perspective. i think the best way forward tbh is to expect her to be this way and to engage in my job a little bit as i can anyway, just enough where i am "doing something" but not enough where i "care about the outcome." i felt like i had that a little bit earlier in the year, but it's very tenuous and trying.

Nedlene Grendel as Basenji Holmo (map), Saturday, 11 December 2021 01:13 (two years ago) link

On the topic of empathizing with your SACs (Stupid Annoying Coworkers) -- my current, more generous (?) theory about my namedroppy coworker, is that he feels personally inadequate and unaccomplished compared to the people he namedrops (including family members, which are likely the source of the feelings of inadequacy) and thus he relies on the relationship to make him feel less shit.

sarahell, Sunday, 12 December 2021 23:38 (two years ago) link

* relationship between him and the impressive person he brings up as knowing / having worked with, etc.

sarahell, Sunday, 12 December 2021 23:40 (two years ago) link

finding grace for the annoying habits of coworkers is harder than actually working at work

Nedlene Grendel as Basenji Holmo (map), Sunday, 12 December 2021 23:48 (two years ago) link

truth bomb

towards fungal computer (harbl), Sunday, 12 December 2021 23:50 (two years ago) link

there is literally nothing "important" or "urgent" or even "complicated" about my job, the job itself is barely there. maybe that is one of the reasons why my manager is so bad - they are in denial about this, so everything they come up with to do is just a reflection of whatever insecurity happens to be nagging them in the moment. the hardest part of my job by far is not getting dragged into the hell that everyone else seems to be trapped in. in that sense, doing other things at work - like reading, or anything to take my mind away from the fact that i'm at work - is actually very crucial to the job itself.

Nedlene Grendel as Basenji Holmo (map), Sunday, 12 December 2021 23:53 (two years ago) link

My reaction to the truth of this statement:

there is literally nothing "important" or "urgent" or even "complicated" about my job

is to simply remind myself at the beginning of every workday that there is nothing important about the job, and that I am only selling my labor and intelligence because we live in a rotten society. it doesn't make me feel better, but it has freed me from feeling like a single ounce of my self-worth is tied to my day job.

we need outrage! we need dicks!! (the table is the table), Tuesday, 14 December 2021 22:30 (two years ago) link

like "you missed a typo when editing the 9000th iteration of this obscure drug's objection handler"

i do not give a fuck, my supervisor.

we need outrage! we need dicks!! (the table is the table), Tuesday, 14 December 2021 22:32 (two years ago) link

i have been in the workforce for 10 years after getting my graduate degree and i keep getting handed these childish, god-awful managers who want to have their egos stroked, hands held, feelings coddled, and then to be able to treat everyone who works for them like subjects in some kind of fucked up royal court. fuck all of them!

This part of map's post hits extremely hard.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 14 December 2021 22:41 (two years ago) link

people who a) chime in late to a teams chat thread and b) respond to the last thing said without getting further context and just sound like wackos. truly the doddering aunts/uncles of the office

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 14 December 2021 22:54 (two years ago) link

My reaction to the truth of this statement:

there is literally nothing "important" or "urgent" or even "complicated" about my job

is to simply remind myself at the beginning of every workday that there is nothing important about the job, and that I am only selling my labor and intelligence because we live in a rotten society. it doesn't make me feel better, but it has freed me from feeling like a single ounce of my self-worth is tied to my day job.

Have just gotten hired for a part-time gig that is gonna manifest in exactly this way, I just know it. I'm gonna literally be one link in a chain of people who have to approve marketing copy; I won't even have to make the changes myself, just...suggest them to the creative team (and cc my boss, presumably). It is a pure money gig. I'm already imagining what I'm gonna spend the money on (putting out records).

but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 14 December 2021 23:03 (two years ago) link

It's kind of liberating— it's the other work I do (running writing workshops, teaching kids about poetry, editing manuscripts, writing for magazines etc) that I actually care about and agonize over. I just decided a few years ago that I'm not going to agonize over something that gives me no pleasure anyway— if the checks are being cut for the work I'm doing, then that's all that matters.

we need outrage! we need dicks!! (the table is the table), Tuesday, 14 December 2021 23:51 (two years ago) link

there is literally nothing "important" or "urgent" or even "complicated" about my job

on a deep level this is true about my work as well, but this rotten society has made certain things complicated, urgent, and important, and I have chosen to help people navigate these things or do these things for people, even though it mostly boils down to checking the right boxes and filling out forms in ways that will keep them out of trouble as well as saving them money they don't have.

sarahell, Wednesday, 15 December 2021 16:48 (two years ago) link

true of most work,

but inside the context of the current world economy some things become significant because of how they operate within said economy.

In my profession, I sometimes make jobs for people. (As in, like, they previously didn't have one and now they do. Or they had a job and now they might have a slightly better one? I dunno.)

Of course I would rather they did not have to have jobs, of course. And I would rather those jobs not be soul-sucking clusterfuck meaningless office jobs.

But, until utopian fully automated space communism exists, people mostly have to have jobs, to like, live in buildings and eat food and wear clothing. Hence, what I do feels... at least a little bit helpful? Maybe?

Or maybe I'm just moving people from one terrible choice to a slightly less terrible choice. I don't know. But I don't think my purpose is to burn the system down, merely to function compassionately and thoughtfully within it. Because I also need to live, eat, feed my family. Which likes to eat food and wear clothing and live in a building.

Mark Antonym (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 15 December 2021 17:06 (two years ago) link

Or maybe I'm just moving people from one terrible choice to a slightly less terrible choice. I don't know. But I don't think my purpose is to burn the system down, merely to function compassionately and thoughtfully within it. Because I also need to live, eat, feed my family. Which likes to eat food and wear clothing and live in a building.

true, some of my work involves improving the conditions of buildings where people live, or making it so people can live in buildings they can afford, so they can both live in a building and eat food ... or something like that.

sarahell, Wednesday, 15 December 2021 17:08 (two years ago) link

xp yes it's helpful.

map and table otm

maf you one two (maffew12), Wednesday, 15 December 2021 17:09 (two years ago) link

I think it's great that people here have interesting and meaningful jobs, but my outlook is that less purposeful make work jobs are good as well, and that shouldn't be stigmatized.

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Wednesday, 15 December 2021 18:05 (two years ago) link

I had no intention of stigmatizing anyone for having dumb jobs tbh -- I feel like map and tables, two ilxors have much <3 for, have good reasoning and healthy attitudes towards theirs.

sarahell, Wednesday, 15 December 2021 18:37 (two years ago) link

I absolutely do not think you were, just meant that as a general comment on this attitude, particularly in the US

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Wednesday, 15 December 2021 18:52 (two years ago) link

Moodles - totally! Just doing your thing at work and leaving it there (so your real - and presumably meaningful - life exists elsewhere) is totally cool and should not be stigmatized. Full agreement.

Mark Antonym (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 15 December 2021 19:33 (two years ago) link

My job looks important, but pretty much all I do is drive mentally disabled people places and watch them do stuff.

Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Wednesday, 15 December 2021 20:13 (two years ago) link

Which likes to eat food and wear clothing and live in a building.

which is on fire

Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 15 December 2021 20:23 (two years ago) link

too soon

sarahell, Wednesday, 15 December 2021 20:26 (two years ago) link

lol eephus and sarahell, great sequence

Mark Antonym (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 15 December 2021 21:31 (two years ago) link

there's a learner in one of the classes I'm supervising whose father is dying, and doesn't have long left.

she's missed a little time to go to the hospital here and there and wanted to know if she could dial in from the hospital to listen on those days (since she has a desktop, which she can't bring with her).

her manager kind of callously just says "no, not unless you have a tech issue", and she was rightfully upset that he was insensitive, so he came to one of our teachers, and I offered to escalate for her. tried to see if a) could we move her to a class that starts later so that she can spend the time with her father now, and still know she has a job waiting for her, or if b) on a limited basis we might be able to let her dial in from hospital, and work with her to keep her caught up (which the teacher offered to do).

instead, they're basically non-committal saying "no, she can't do that, and we may have to remove her from this assignment and reassign at a later date", instead of actually earmarking her for a specific class. worst, they loop in the team lead in question and he butthurtedly states he was disappointed to see this was escalated above him.

well maybe don't act like a dick to someone whose father is dying next time. I know there are rules and parameters but maybe you could have offered to look into some alternatives or at least been less David Spade-y about it.

hopefully this review helped someone (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 21 December 2021 15:44 (two years ago) link

*she came

hopefully this review helped someone (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 21 December 2021 15:44 (two years ago) link

I will admit, before I was on my anxiety meds, and when I was younger and more naive, I was pretty callous to a lot of people as a manager back around 2006. it took getting called on it many times to actually cause me to change my behavior (so maybe this guy needs to be called on it too)

hopefully this review helped someone (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 21 December 2021 15:46 (two years ago) link

there's "pretty callous" and there's "making desperate people choose whether to spend time with their dying father and risk losing a job" - this is horrifying.

boxedjoy, Tuesday, 21 December 2021 23:38 (two years ago) link

yeah, and quite honestly, it's a bit horseshit because we already have people miss ENTIRE DAYS due to:

-catching COVID
-going to a funeral of someone who died from COVID (or something else)
-not having equipment shipped to them on time
-just literally not showing up and asking the next day "lol can u stay late and catch me up"

her boss said he "had to adhere to the attendance policy". this is a third party who regularly doesn't give a fuck when their employees miss one or two full days of class for reasons that are legit bullshit. NOW we're going to put a line in the sand?

If she gets reassigned to another class quickly, at least she still has a job but usually they tell us what class they're moving the person to, not merely mentioning it as a possibility.

all this is probably why I never cut it as a higher level manager, because I couldn't take the toxicity those assholes spewed.

hopefully this review helped someone (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 21 December 2021 23:44 (two years ago) link

Find out if the people with ‘acceptable’ but bullshit absences are all or predominantly men, and if so, your colleague has been discriminating against the female learner.

the thin blue lying (suzy), Wednesday, 22 December 2021 08:45 (two years ago) link

two weeks pass...

I know it's not going to change anything and I'm not going to get the job but you're very much mistaken if you think I'm not coming after you for lying, you deceitful HR fuck.

Long enough attention span for a Stephen Bissette blu-ray extra (aldo), Friday, 7 January 2022 13:59 (two years ago) link

So uh maybe if you wanted to do literal construction in each of our cubes you maybe should have had us work from home instead of coming all the way in to find out our workspaces were going to be inaccessible for much of the day?

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 7 January 2022 15:38 (two years ago) link

today my boss's boss said this of a partner manager who is extremely over the top and teaches her reports extremely incorrect things: "We appreciate you, but you're hurting us".

I want that as a bumper sticker

xp - that is fucked up and totally not common practice for any construction work I'm familiar with (and I am familiar with a bit). I mean, on the construction crew side, I'm sure they would have preferred y'all were not needing access to your space and that they could just do the work they've been contracted to do without the awkward interactions and accommodations.

sarahell, Friday, 7 January 2022 16:40 (two years ago) link

update to Frank Mills from the Hair sequel

dark end of the st. maud (sic), Friday, 7 January 2022 16:40 (two years ago) link

lol sic

xpost - it's just a shitshow of communication. they are lowering some of the built-in workstations in our cubes that were installed at the wrong height years ago. my boss told us they'd start early morning today and be done with all five of them by mid-morning, so we should come in late. well, no. they are still on the first one and it's been a mess but fortunately he wised up and sent us all to work from home.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 7 January 2022 16:52 (two years ago) link

yr boss sucks at managing construction as well as communication

sarahell, Friday, 7 January 2022 17:06 (two years ago) link

manager today asked my boss's boss (again) why the training said 9 am - 12 pm, as she thought it was a morning training.

I'm going to hope she doesn't actually think 12 pm means midnight buuuuut.....

are 15 hour training days normal?

koogs, Saturday, 8 January 2022 07:04 (two years ago) link

definitely not!

they were written with a ouija board and a rhyming dictionary (Neanderthal), Saturday, 8 January 2022 07:08 (two years ago) link

the one with Denzel was 2 hours

sarahell, Saturday, 8 January 2022 08:17 (two years ago) link

Lolz

nonsensei (Ye Mad Puffin), Saturday, 8 January 2022 09:50 (two years ago) link

yes, it's a good idea to plan a virtual surprise birthday party for the head of our division at 7:30 am their time, and when they're not online at that time (like usual), to text that person and try to call them telling them their boss is looking for them.

because the heart attack they have is going to be worth the momentary 2 seconds of excitement when we shout "happy birthday".

they were written with a ouija board and a rhyming dictionary (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 12 January 2022 13:42 (two years ago) link

two weeks pass...

so we're rolling out new software and my team is leading the training on it, and we got told that some of the teams we trained created their own custom Powerpoints to go over topics people were struggling with, and that it included things that weren't covered in the Training page. We got asked to look at the custom Powerpoints to see if perhaps they had a lot of content we were missing and we needed to improve our training materials.

All but two of the Powerpoints were stolen directly from our training modules, right down to the screenshots. they literally just copied them. and unlike the training module, which will be automatically updated periodically as new version releases go out, these Powerpoints will have to be manually updated every time.

some people must really love Powerpoint because how fucking pointless, lol

people love filling up their time with manual tasks because it makes them look busy.

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Friday, 28 January 2022 17:28 (two years ago) link

I have a coworker who has to track status updates on about 140 accounts each week. He goes into a tool and looks each one up and takes notes on ones that have had updates. He spends many hours each week chasing down these updates. I created a process to dump all status updates into a small spreadsheet, it takes less than 15 minutes to refresh automatically, and it turns out that there are maybe 10 updates per week. But he still wants to go into the tool and look up every last one, just in case, so we don't get blindsided, you know.

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Friday, 28 January 2022 17:33 (two years ago) link

nothing made me more proud when like ten years ago, we had a pompous department head who was full of attitude and bluster, but not good at leadership, and he lead this initiative to remove "waste", work that didn't add value. but paradoxically, he and the other managers scheduled more pointless meetings than anybody I knew.

so one day he was rattling on about waste and a friend of mine just blurted out directly "this entire meeting is WASTE", getting shocked silence from everybody else.

(the whole Muda thing: https://www.process.st/muda/)

Howdy new co-worker, I understand you are new and our processes are a little different than what you might be used to doing. I get it, I was there once too. But, uh, you have now thrice rebuffed my offers to walk you through things and show you how to access the files you need. Yet you still insist on tagging me onto pre-existing email chains with various consultants and asking directing me to do them for you. Please don't do that, you not being willing to learn the ropes does not make it my problem to bail you out. And when I do decide to help you, because it is in the best interest of our department, it might not kill you to toss me a simple "thanks".

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 3 February 2022 21:25 (two years ago) link

two weeks pass...

"beginning in a few weeks, you won't be able to enter the password in anymore, even in the training environment. it's not live yet, but it's coming."

"actually, I'm seeing that it's already been deactivated - I can't enter it anymore. do we need to quickly update our materials, some of which still involve using this feature, or was this done in error?"

"Once this goes into effect, we'll update materials, don't worry."

"I'm literally telling you IT'S ALREADY BEEN PUSHED OUT. as in, I can't do the thing that I could do two days ago. should this be out there early, or do we need to update our materials??!!"

sorry Mario, but our princess is in another butthole (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 22 February 2022 16:09 (two years ago) link

two weeks pass...

our class schedules are always static, and for this one particular class in Canada, 7.5 hours plus lunch (so 9 am - 5 pm ET). someone who was editing the class agenda made a booboo and deleted a topic by mistake, so the agenda showed class ending an hour earlier by mistake. it was a fairly obvious mistake, as you can see a blank where there used to be a topic, and the teacher knew our schedule was 9 am - 5 pm throughout training, so rather than ask someone in charge about it, they just incorrectly assumed class was ending early that day and dismissed everybody an hour early.

so basically they all get one hour less of pay now (though I'm lobbying my boss to look into it with someone higher up to pay them for what was clearly not their fault).

i read to 69 position (Neanderthal), Friday, 11 March 2022 19:57 (two years ago) link

fucker really basically needed to use a car analogy for every business decision. go fuck yrsen

Fizzles, Friday, 11 March 2022 20:13 (two years ago) link

like

"right now, we're a Kia Sedona, but we need to grow until we're a Lexus. and unfortunately, with that comes sacrifices, so some of you will have your pay go from being a stretch limo to a Hyundai Veloster"?

i read to 69 position (Neanderthal), Friday, 11 March 2022 20:19 (two years ago) link

exactly. a manager i have always using car analogies. driving me mad!

Fizzles, Friday, 11 March 2022 21:15 (two years ago) link

i see what you did there.

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 11 March 2022 21:17 (two years ago) link

one of the managers in my department must have a few lugnuts loose. he apparently told somebody that I'd be leading a training class Monday, but I think he put his foot on the accelerator too fast, as he never gave me the turn signal to tell me he needed me to lead that class. also, I can't, because I'm going to be in the shop on Monday getting repaired.

so now I'm here pumping the brakes on a Friday, until we can get it figured out. what a week, my spedometer has gotten a workout.

i read to 69 position (Neanderthal), Friday, 11 March 2022 21:39 (two years ago) link

you must be gassed after all that!!

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 11 March 2022 22:09 (two years ago) link

three weeks pass...

This co-worker is actually a very sweet person and I think she's a good teacher, but she played an April Fools joke today that still has me irrationally annoyed. We usually get doughnuts in the staff lounge on Fridays; they show up around lunchtime and people drop in at their lunch period (there are several) or their free period to grab one. I don't usually bother with the doughnuts because they're not very good and the staff lounge is all the way across the school from me, but when I do get one it's in the middle of the day.

So today this coworker sent around a morning email saying she'd got us all Krispy Kremes instead. Then she put a Krispy Kreme box filled with veggies in the staff lounge, and taped a note inside the lid saying to come to her classroom for the actual doughnuts. The idea presumably being that you'd be briefly faked out by the veggies but end up getting a doughnut, and a superior doughnut to what we usually get.

Which probably worked fine before school started. But I showed up at my lunch period as usual, found the note, went to her classroom, and of course there was a class going on in it, and I wasn't about to invade a teacher's class to ask if there were any doughnuts left. So the April Fools joke ended up being "haha you don't get any doughnuts this Friday," and I don't even like doughnuts that much but I still feel that was a Lucy from Peanuts move.

Lily Dale, Friday, 1 April 2022 21:33 (two years ago) link

three weeks pass...

I don't know if this is the right thread, but how do y'all handle periods of being inundated with extreme negativity and anger at work without losing your minds?

Essentially, my position is construction-adjacent and I often find myself as the face and contact for projects that can be sometimes intrusive or annoying, given that construction work itself is by nature something that cause inconvenience even at the best of times. I do all I can to minimize it and spend a lot of time clearly communicating with those impacted and trying to ease it as much as possible with the limited influence I have. But ultimately, the decisions about the extents and timing of construction work are made well above my head and I just implement the work as best I can. Complaints are par for the course and I'm used to dealing with them, I get it - it comes with the territory. That said, something seems to have flipped in the last year or so and the anger and outrage is just off the charts. Where I used to see maybe 4-5 complaints over the course of a 2 or 3 month project, I'm now seeing dozens a day. And just pure angry, frothing rage in many of them. Not even for the usual targets like noise or disruption, I'm talking multiple paragraph screeds about a temporary door that "sticks a bit" or having to travel 35 extra feet to a different suite exit. I've racked my brain for weeks to try and tease out if I'm doing something differently than I used to do, or if there is something I'm doing wrong, but I can't put my finger on it. It just seems like people are either much angrier lately, or just way more vocal in expressing their anger. It's wearing me down and I'm finding it increasingly hard to get out of bed when I know I've got another day of nothing but negativity coming my way.

tl;dr - increasingly surrounded by negativity and it's overwhelming me

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 27 April 2022 14:59 (two years ago) link

I think that's a general trend, with multiple causes, including the Trump Presidency and the pandemic. Anxiety, anger, fear are all significantly up, resulting in higher incidents of violent crime and lesser incidents such as confrontations on airplanes.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 27 April 2022 15:02 (two years ago) link

It just seems like people are either much angrier lately, or just way more vocal in expressing their anger. It's wearing me down and I'm finding it increasingly hard to get out of bed when I know I've got another day of nothing but negativity coming my way.

For the past year, I've been in a similar position to you, and yeah, it can feel like your job is to be yelled at and beaten down, with little consideration for the fact that you are a human being and essentially, the messenger. My position differs in that the people complaining are essentially my org's clients, as opposed to my co-workers, though the arrangement is fairly informal, so I am viewed as a co-worker rather than a consultant.

But, to give you an idea of where I'm coming from (and to see if our work is similar or not), I have had to contend with: frustration over missed garbage pick-ups; complaints about roof leaks in one part of the building that implied that I was too concerned about the roof in other parts of the building and not their part of the building; a vacuum cleaner that did not effectively work to clean a wood floor; enforcement of safety and code concerns being a tool of white supremacy; and could I personally deal with a burnt-out lightbulb. The person who asked me to change the lightbulb was nice about it. (At first I had thought it was probably an overhead fluorescent, and some of those are 8 feet, and that is perfectly reasonable and legit ... but it wasn't ... but at least the person was polite and grateful.)

Coping mechanisms ... it helps that I have a co-worker who does the same work I do and we can commiserate about it and support each other. I also have gotten better at mentally putting the work stuff in a box and ignoring it when I am not at work. I also try to interact more socially with the people who are complaining? Like, ask them what they are working on, try and reinforce my humanity to them, as opposed to being the person who can get the guy in to blow out the roof drains and patch the leaks, etc. ... and I don't want to get into the white supremacy issue here, but needless to say, that one is not as easy as changing a lightbulb and the people aren't as polite.

sarahell, Saturday, 30 April 2022 17:29 (two years ago) link

the policy for our trainers up until now has always been "you may have up to 5 hours per week without pre-approval, IF the overtime is needed to do actual work". and it makes sense, you have to show up early for class to get things ready and ensure it starts on time, and there's usually administrative stuff to do after class. Usually only adds up to 30 mins or so, but it's OT.

so this week, someone comes to me and says their manager is saying that no longer applies, they need all OT approved in advance. None of this was actually communicated to us until one of my instructors told me their manager was demanding I talk to them about any OT her direct report needed to work that week, and I was just told "well talk to her".

I had to tell her she'd already taken a half hour and that I'd blessed it based on the previous guidance, so that the instructor didn't get in trouble for taking 'unapproved' overtime, but I also told my boss's boss that on a permanent basis, I'm not willing to be the middleman on this, because that will lead to us eventually being held accountable for when one of these instructors takes unauthorized OT, when we don't even have the ability to see their time cards, nor are we their people managers.

seems like a few bad actors causing our company to take it out on the people who aren't doing anything wrong, and worried it'll lead to people working 'off the clock' (which I'll report in a heartbeat if I see it - I've had to do it a few times where I suspected one of our business partners was telling their employees to do that).

Deez NFTs (Neanderthal), Monday, 2 May 2022 20:44 (two years ago) link

5 hours *overtime* per week

Deez NFTs (Neanderthal), Monday, 2 May 2022 20:45 (two years ago) link

my awful manager was gone for two weeks on vacation and i am NOT doing well with the fact that she is back today.

the cat needs to start paying for its own cbd (map), Tuesday, 3 May 2022 19:51 (two years ago) link

sorry sarahell, missed your post over the weekend.

Fortunately this week things tapered down a little bit, so I'm trying to enjoy the lull and be productive in other areas as much as I can. Mine is a little more focused on specific construction concerns, it ultimately just ends up that no matter how communicative and clear you might be about the unfortunate inconveniences around construction, people will always find something to complain about. One particular piece of information I learned late last week provided some illumination and helped me to depersonalize the complaining a little - turns out, well before I got involved, two different groups of professors were angling for renovation of the same old lab space and the Dean could only recommend one to move forward and the other had to be tabled for a few more years. Turns out that the most angry, vocal complaints were all emanating from the group that did not get their plan realized. Still very obnoxious to have to bear the brunt of anger about politics and departmental decisions that have zilch to do with me, but reassuring to know that I hadn't done anything "wrong" and very likely, no matter what I did, these people would still be complaining loudly because the root of their frustration has nothing to do with me.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 3 May 2022 20:20 (two years ago) link

yep, that is usually the case! glad you are feeling better.

sarahell, Tuesday, 3 May 2022 23:52 (two years ago) link

It was the greatest feeling to see this thread pop up and realize that I have absolutely nothing to contribute to it for the first time in...what, at least a decade and a half? I'm fucken exhausted but at least it isn't because of any stupid, annoying co-workers for a change.

buncha people lost the ability to access a Sharepoint excel sign-up spreadsheet starting at 5 pm last night. paradoxically, as all show as having edit access. re-granting hasn't worked.

IT is outsourced and has no clue how any of our shit works. we get directed to the Sharepoint page owners....who don't even realize they're the owners.

easiest way to fix seems to be "repost this to a Sharepoint page that our team is the owners of, update all outside references to new link, send a blast with new link letting people know to update bookmarks". but instead, I'm just being told to forward physical copies of the sheet every day as a workaround, even though people update it multiple times per day, as this is a sign-up sheet.

so now I'm basically forced to send a copy of the file beginning of day, notify the trainers when updates are made, and then update the attendance myself manually. which is a waste of time. so I've said "i'm not doing that, try again".

Deez NFTs (Neanderthal), Thursday, 5 May 2022 16:03 (two years ago) link

Permissions stuff for Microsoft cloud thingies, which I've only just had to dip my newb toes into, appear to be astonishingly hellish/arcane(/buggy??). And also a work in progress; I got complaints that something useful had stopped working, and it appears it was never intended to work that way, but just did so for a while by happy accident. (End of off-topic aside.)

anatol_merklich, Friday, 6 May 2022 06:43 (two years ago) link

Stopped uploading to Sharepoint when I realised everyone just pings me asking for the file on Teams anyway, despite previously sharing the Sharepoint link on Teams.

Pre-Raphaelite Brah (King Boy Pato), Friday, 6 May 2022 11:00 (two years ago) link

xpost they finally fixed it and I have no idea how.

Deez NFTs (Neanderthal), Friday, 6 May 2022 12:48 (two years ago) link

alright, i gotta ask. why do people forward Outlook invites to the same email address it was already sent to?

Like I get why people forward it to personal emails, or if are an external partner with two email addresses, but I'm talking about someone whose email address is Be✧✧✧.Bigmac✧✧✧@fiz✧✧✧.c✧✧, and they get the invite, and they forward it to Be✧✧✧.Bigmac✧✧✧@fiz✧✧✧.c✧✧, according to the forward notification.

do they think this is how it makes it appear on their calendar, or is there sorcery I'm unaware of.

Deez NFTs (Neanderthal), Friday, 6 May 2022 15:24 (two years ago) link

Wasn't there someone on here who said their colleagues forwarded emails to themselves so they'd appear at the top of the inbox and not get pushed down into obscurity? maybe it's the same thing?

kinder, Friday, 6 May 2022 15:57 (two years ago) link

but if they accept the invite, it's no longer in their inbox, and it's on their calendar!

Deez NFTs (Neanderthal), Friday, 6 May 2022 16:01 (two years ago) link

my co-worker will have me forward him something I had sent him numerous times before because he gets a ridiculous amount of emails and he is often overwhelmed and it just is more expedient that way. It's kinda annoying but sitting and waiting for him to search could also be annoying, and everything is always a crisis and there's not enough time.

sarahell, Friday, 6 May 2022 19:31 (two years ago) link

I mean that I understand, even if agree it sounds a bit annoying.

in my case, the people are accepting the invite, then forwarding it to the same email address they received it at a mere minute later, when it's already on their calendar.

one day I will probably ask one of them "out of curiosity, what is the purpose of this?", just cos I always gotta know 'why'?

Deez NFTs (Neanderthal), Friday, 6 May 2022 19:35 (two years ago) link

so, coworker t. the story i like to tell is that a week or two after i started this position, she asked me if i liked star wars, and i said, you know i've never really been a big fan, and she immediately replied "get away from me" in like a startled, almost hostile tone. i laughed in the moment but then realized she was serious! if you read this shit in a novel you'd throw it across the room.

anyway, she is a sniveling busybody lieutenant to my godawful black hole manager who everyone else dances around (missing stair). i'm convinced that she's deeply closeted, she lives with her parents, she is mormon and very invested in nerd culture, and she like, really, really lives for people to think she's soooo smart and good and busy and it all just makes me want to puke.

the cat needs to start paying for its own cbd (map), Tuesday, 10 May 2022 02:29 (two years ago) link

you should ask her about the comics where there are some very gay star wars characters, including an indiana jones-type female relic thief who loves the ladies. probably her favorite lol

mh, Tuesday, 10 May 2022 03:11 (two years ago) link

"Neanderthal, I think there's a problem - there's a feature in our tools that was disabled a while back, yet we still have it. I'm worried that there's a systemic problem that we're not getting updates."

"um, the disabling of that feature hasn't occurred yet. you're seeing a preview of a forthcoming development change, but it hasn't happened yet. Here, in fact, are 3 other teams that have the same feature."

"Well I distinctly remember being told it was being disabled and anecdotally I know of clients that don't have it anymore so I don't believe you and am asking the technology side."

"fine, go fuck yourself."

Deez NFTs (Neanderthal), Friday, 13 May 2022 15:23 (two years ago) link

(obv artistic license)

Deez NFTs (Neanderthal), Friday, 13 May 2022 15:23 (two years ago) link

y'all got any people who ask you ping you all panicked about an emergency, then when you try to help, answer like 1 of every 4 questions you ask them so it takes you an hour to find out what they're even freaked out about?

Deez NFTs (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 17 May 2022 14:00 (one year ago) link

y'all got any people who ask you ping you all panicked about an emergency, then when you try to help, answer like 1 of every 4 questions you ask them so it takes you an hour to find out what they're even freaked out about?


I’m un/deremployed at the moment lmfao, but I have had this happen numerous times, particularly with a very explosive supervisor at my last major gig. He would get so angry and frustrated and I would have no idea what he was talking about?!? And when I coaxed it out of him he would act as if I was incompetent, when usually it was something on his end or production’s end that was kefaktah

we need outrage! we need dicks!! (the table is the table), Tuesday, 17 May 2022 22:27 (one year ago) link

yes my old boss used to do this all the time

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 17 May 2022 23:33 (one year ago) link

Thankfully, pretty much all of my co-workers are neither stupid nor annoying, unless they are drunk, in which case they are fairly easily avoided.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 17 May 2022 23:46 (one year ago) link

The ineptitude of my colleagues makes me look better and helped me get a second bonus this year for performance so I guess I'm grateful

Deez NFTs (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 17 May 2022 23:48 (one year ago) link

I was back at my job after two weeks of vacation out of the country and two hours into my first day back and my boss asks me for a status update for one of my (many) projects.

DAMAGED by Black Flat (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 18 May 2022 00:12 (one year ago) link

Not exactly a co-worker, a legacy consultant I have to keep working with, but an older boomer to responds to every email with a phone call. Has a yes/no question for me? Calls me on the phone to ask. I send him a file that requires no response? Calls me on the phone to say thanks. I ask him to forward me some information or document? Calls me on the phone to tell me he's going to send it. I'm wise to it and usually just let it go to voicemail, but even when I respond later via email, that still triggers a phone call.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 18 May 2022 20:56 (one year ago) link

there were five big last minute changes requested Monday night to our training schedules for Tuesday. It was aggravating but I accommodated them all. However, one of the changes made the afternoon class size too big.

I initially said to myself "If I split this class in two groups, no matter what steps I take to communicate the change, some of them will not pay attention and not show up". But I also knew if I kept the class together, the time allotted would be insufficient for a class of that size and then the attendees would complain we rushed.

So I bit the poison pill - I emailed everybody that I was moving to the second group in advance to tell them training wasn't cancelled, but they were were being moved to another group, and that they'd get a cancellation message from the original trainer, and a new invite from me. Then we did exactly that, almost a full 24 hours before the session.

Today, I get a manager screaming at me that we "cancelled training and didn't reschedule it" and I had to spend 15 minutes cutting and pasting screencaps to show that we not only did send a new invite minutes later, but we sent an email to them at the end of the day telling them these people didn't attend and to reschedule them.

lol....and yet after the shitty day that was yesterday, getting mad over stuff like this is actually a welcome distraction to me.

mookie wilson shaggin balls (Neanderthal), Thursday, 19 May 2022 14:46 (one year ago) link

xp Billing the company for every call

maf you one two (maffew12), Thursday, 19 May 2022 17:17 (one year ago) link

I wish even that would explain it, all the work they do for us is on a project by project, fixed fee basis so he gets paid the same whether he calls me once, or if he calls me a hundred time.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 19 May 2022 17:28 (one year ago) link

This one is more just funny haha as an example of just how petty grown ass adults act in the work environment, but I still rolled my damn eyes.

My boss casually mentioned joining another meeting he had already set up and that I should see an invite from Jill Doe shortly, no big deal. So about an hour later I get said invite, click accept and think nothing more of it. About half an hour after that I get cc'ed on an email from Jill Doe to her own department that says, "Team, feel free to include Rando #1, Rando #2 and Rando #3 if they are available. I thought this was going to be a high level discussion with Boss, however, he has invited three people from his team to join the call."

Oh yeah? You're gonna invite three members of your team to call? I can do that too!

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 23 May 2022 21:52 (one year ago) link

this other colleague and I oversee this special training course - he has one half of the classes, I have the other. all year, our boss's boss has wanted us to keep managers updated on weekly attendance, so they can sign up agents that miss for a makeup session.

I have sent the attendance email every week since it was implemented - it takes 5 measly minutes. He has sent a total of one attendance email over 5 months, despite reminder after reminder. At first, I actually did it for him a few times, then I stopped because I was too busy, my attitude being "if you want to fuck up your portion of the project, that's your problem".

So last week I take two much needed days off and I ask him and my boss's boss if one of them can send a daily attendance email for one of my classes, as it was important as they all have to attend by 6/1. Boss's boss asked him if he could do it, he said yes he would, and of course he didn't fuckin' do it.

so I get to deal with the managers angry that they're getting a day's notice to reschedule people.

Gymnopédie Pablo (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 31 May 2022 15:31 (one year ago) link

AND one of the classes he was supervising had technological issues and more than an hour of content wasn't completed (occurred my last day in the office before my PTO). he said he was working on getting the attendees rescheduled, did nothing, brushed off his trainer's question on it without adequately answering it on Friday, so now *I* have to fucking solve it and by tomorrow.

from now on when I take PTO i'm just gonna dump everything on him.

Gymnopédie Pablo (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 31 May 2022 17:42 (one year ago) link

"wanna jump on a call?"
"not really"

but after capitulating i got 20 minutes of me repeating the details i had already written in the slack channel interspersed with him apologising for his Bluetooth connection being shitty.

koogs, Tuesday, 31 May 2022 18:46 (one year ago) link

I hate "wanna jump on a call", so so much

Gymnopédie Pablo (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 31 May 2022 18:48 (one year ago) link

would you trade it all in for a place with no calls, ever, and a large room of cubes with 3 other people who barely ever speak? Beyond this room I'm lucky to get a "good morning" returned. Everybody just checked out.

this place gives me the willies and i can't believe i've been here 4 years.. well kind of 2 given all the pandemic interruptions. I hope it hasn't turned me into a huge(r) weirdo. Somehow I've put together 3 job interviews over the next week, a couple even relevant to some schooling I did. wish me luck

maf you one two (maffew12), Wednesday, 1 June 2022 12:16 (one year ago) link

^^^^

I can feel that maffew, the post pandemic era at our office has so demoralized people that it's like walking onto the set of a zombie flick every day. Silence and an air of quiet desperation has settled over everything, just one more reason not being able to work remotely at all stings and saps the life out of me.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 1 June 2022 13:52 (one year ago) link

solidarity! The thing here is that it was exactly like this before. It's really wild. When I do get some of them to have a chat it isn't bad, but we go right back to zombie mode. I mean hostility would be worse of course but god dam...

Welp I've been here a bit long to think, like, I'm not part of it now. Time to be on my way.

maf you one two (maffew12), Wednesday, 1 June 2022 13:55 (one year ago) link

every time someone misses a day of our class, we get asked if we 'recorded' it so they can listen later.

when exactly are they going to find time to listen to an eight hour recording when you have literally every moment of the next two weeks accounted for and aren't approving overtime at the moment? not to mention nobody would ever pay attention ever again if we recorded them ("I can just listen to it later...")

Gymnopédie Pablo (Neanderthal), Thursday, 9 June 2022 15:22 (one year ago) link

There's a guy from another office currently visiting ours. He's using a guest office next to mine. He's nice enough, but he's very loud. The walls are not particularly thin, and it sounds as though he's sitting next to me.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 9 June 2022 19:22 (one year ago) link

that was one of the things that really bugged me about office work. tons of loud conversations that are distracting (at best) or things that you shouldn't be privy to hearing.

once sat next to someone who would call her son and basically do nothing but yell at him for fifteen minutes and bang her fists really hard on the desk. she was also hella racist, liked Rick Scott too.

and then this one dude loudly, on speakerphone, would tell his soon to be ex-wife his entire legal strategy and how he was going to destroy her, loud enough for the whole floor to hear.

Gymnopédie Pablo (Neanderthal), Thursday, 9 June 2022 19:25 (one year ago) link

It's hard to concentrate! I've had my AirPods in most of the day. They help, but not completely.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 9 June 2022 19:27 (one year ago) link

should blow an airhorn every time he talks

Gymnopédie Pablo (Neanderthal), Thursday, 9 June 2022 19:30 (one year ago) link

colleague: can you tell me why <name> is on the roster for Pension training?

Me: well, that would be because you signed them up. I don't just randomly send people things.

Gymnopédie Pablo (Neanderthal), Friday, 10 June 2022 16:03 (one year ago) link

probably not co-workers but work related. i have to send my laptop back because the battery is bulging more than i can ignore (it's been noticeable for about 3 years but now you can feel it)

anyway, had a note saying that it'll be swapped on Monday and that it should be placed on the original packaging (which i don't have) AND an outer box with 3-6 inches of bubble wrap (which i don't have). but, Saturday today, the shops are open...

just had a text saying they'll be coming between 10:36 and 11:36 this morning, Saturday, and the nearest whsmith is in Westfield which doesn't open until 10 and is 15 minutes away... which is cutting things fine.

it would also help if my packing tape was actually sticky.

koogs, Saturday, 11 June 2022 06:56 (one year ago) link

(^ my work laptop, hence posting here)

koogs, Saturday, 11 June 2022 06:57 (one year ago) link

he arrived 5 minutes after 10:36

and the replacement laptop came in really scant packaging, was probably no need for me to be at rymans at 9 this morning buying 10m of plastic coated air for £8.50

koogs, Saturday, 11 June 2022 09:51 (one year ago) link

I pretty much set my own hours at my job, though usually try to work either 8:30 - 5:00 pm or 9:00 am - 5:30 pm. but on training days, I usually try to be up by 8:30 because of the endless parade of people who aren't registered for a course screaming at me "WHERE'S MY TRAINING INVITE?", because apparently people in 2022 still don't know how to properly sign up for things and think I can read their mind.

Gymnopédie Pablo (Neanderthal), Monday, 13 June 2022 13:30 (one year ago) link

holy shit my manager is a nightmare!!!! the awfulness escapes my ability to accurately characterize it. she shows no analytical abilities, i think she has adhd. she seems literally incapable of taking a step back and having perspective. it's just, tree, tree, tree. it would be one thing if she were somewhat aware of all of this and relied on other people... but she wants to be the one who knows everything at all times! and she expects people, even her colleagues who don't report directly to her, to just do what she wants all the time! she shows no ability or inclination to collaborate or work with or 'dialogue' with people. just absolute dogshit all day every day.

the cat needs to start paying for its own cbd (map), Tuesday, 14 June 2022 17:18 (one year ago) link

is this the missing chair manager or the closeted Mormon star wars one?

sarahell, Tuesday, 14 June 2022 17:33 (one year ago) link

holy shit map, that sounds a lot like mine, just mix in a healthy dose of constant conspiracy theorizing and information hoarding on top of that.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 14 June 2022 17:42 (one year ago) link

is this the missing chair manager or the closeted Mormon star wars one?

― sarahell, Tuesday, June 14, 2022 6:33 PM (ten minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

haha the missing chair manager. star wars is actually pretty solid, except she kisses up to missing chair all the time and is her best friend, which i don't understand at all.

the cat needs to start paying for its own cbd (map), Tuesday, 14 June 2022 17:45 (one year ago) link

i wonder if the "information hoarding" is intentional or accidental if they have adhd?

sarahell, Tuesday, 14 June 2022 17:48 (one year ago) link

holy shit map, that sounds a lot like mine, just mix in a healthy dose of constant conspiracy theorizing and information hoarding on top of that.

― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, June 14, 2022 6:42 PM (three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

mine is incredibly petty and egotistical but so far she hasn't shown the inclination to "go after" someone if they don't comply. i'm even more sorry if yours does.

the cat needs to start paying for its own cbd (map), Tuesday, 14 June 2022 17:50 (one year ago) link

xp - that's a good point, sarahell, i haven't been able to tease out the root, but it certainly ties into an overall need to "control" everything

his form of "go after" is more just badmouthing them to anyone within earshot, "not a team player" is his favorite phrase

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 14 June 2022 18:03 (one year ago) link

its always like:

manager: "hey person X, this isn't your job or even in your wheelhouse, but I forgot about it and I need you to expedite it for me so I can look good and my oversight will go unnoticed"

person X: "um no, wtf. I'm in the middle of an incredibly important deadline for what is actually my job, so I might look into this when my workload lightens up in the near future"

manager: "WOW. person X is really not a team player and I'm not sure we can count on them"

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 14 June 2022 18:06 (one year ago) link

sounds like manager is super entitled and arrogant ... I am assuming that manager doesn't "return the favor" for other workers? ... like if they have forgotten something or are overburdened, manager will pick up the orphaned task and do it himself? ... However, if he does actually do this, then it's more an issue of "this job is my life, your job should be your life," when, it sounds like, based on your descriptions of your workplace and duties, that your job should definitely _not_ be your life because it doesn't seem particularly meaningful.

sarahell, Tuesday, 14 June 2022 18:11 (one year ago) link

I had a manager once that would schedule meetings, make us wait on hold without showing up for a half hour, then show up 50 minutes late and get angry asking where everyone was and making us rejoin.

Gymnopédie Pablo (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 14 June 2022 18:24 (one year ago) link

oh haha that reminds me 'missing chair' is late to 90% of meetings. 50% of the time she is 10 or more minutes late. oh and her excuse is always "my computer was being weird"

manager: "hey person X, this isn't your job or even in your wheelhouse, but I forgot about it and I need you to expedite it for me so I can look good and my oversight will go unnoticed"

person X: "um no, wtf. I'm in the middle of an incredibly important deadline for what is actually my job, so I might look into this when my workload lightens up in the near future"

she does this all the time too. but doesn't directly badmouth people, she's wayyyy too passive aggressive for that.

of course she never 'returns the favor'! she doesn't have to, she's the manager, that's literally all being a manager entails, not having to do anything she doesn't want to and passively aggressively suggesting that anything that goes wrong is someone else's fault.

the cat needs to start paying for its own cbd (map), Tuesday, 14 June 2022 18:33 (one year ago) link

i've never worked anywhere that is remotely so passive aggressive, it is astounding. like it is absolutely against the rules for certain people to ever directly communicate with anyone else!!! or like they literally don't know how to do it. total wastes and fuck ups. daresay it isn't a coincidence that those people mormons.

the cat needs to start paying for its own cbd (map), Tuesday, 14 June 2022 18:38 (one year ago) link

I became very direct and firm in my old job at this firm back in 2017, when I had my back against the wall, and people acted as if I shat on the American flag. I think in the business world now everybody expects passive bullshit like:

"I'm so sorry I forgot to do my assignment and the client is angry and possibly not renewing the contract because of me because I was at Dunkin Donuts"

"aw, no worries - things happen!"

*5 minutes later, to someone else who has no power to do anything*

"WHY DON'T WE GET RID OF THIS PERSON!"

Gymnopédie Pablo (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 14 June 2022 19:10 (one year ago) link

I am assuming that manager doesn't "return the favor" for other workers? ... like if they have forgotten something or are overburdened, manager will pick up the orphaned task and do it himself?

ding ding ding!

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 14 June 2022 19:21 (one year ago) link

you truly work with annoying, stupid people! you deserve better!

my (very likely adhd) co-worker is always perpetually late to meetings ... that he scheduled (and sometimes rescheduled) ... but he doesn't blame others for his mistakes or do the type of pass-agg bullshit described above. He will take on all the work. If I forget something, or flake, he will do it and not throw me under the bus. This makes me feel better about all the times I have to cover for him, like when he double books himself or forgets about a family vacation and then tells me two days prior that he will be gone camping for a week.

sarahell, Tuesday, 14 June 2022 19:37 (one year ago) link

that's really what matters is like ,if you're ognna be erratic and goofy but mostly get shit done, it's cool as long as you don't throw me under your bus.

Gymnopédie Pablo (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 14 June 2022 19:39 (one year ago) link

you truly work with annoying, stupid people! you deserve better!

oh, absolutely, i know this. there are certain benefits that i would not find elsewhere, which is what is (for now) keeping me here, along with the hopes of managerial turnover, which seems to be very frequent.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 14 June 2022 19:42 (one year ago) link

even if you're gonna be erratic and goofy and get very little done, I am way more tolerant if you don't throw me under your bus and are aware of your flaws and are gracious and appreciative that I do not have them (as much).

sarahell, Tuesday, 14 June 2022 19:42 (one year ago) link

Innovation for the sake of innovation drives me nuts. so they're doing Phase 2 of the content redesign for the CCR materials (which I think I've talked about in this thread). In doing so, they took content that was in a consistent, structured format across different topics, and turned it into more of a FAQ format, which is much harder to navigate.

but they didn't have time to update all of the content at once, so they did it in waves, meaning half the pages are in the new FAQ format, the other half in the old one. the first wave of pages in the new FAQ format were also written differently from the original pages - all new content.

This time around, the 'redesigned' pages are just the original content structured in the new format - however, they made us re-author it all from scratch anyway. AND worst of all, these redesigned pages are missing things.

Now the Health Care Flexible Spending Account materials don't even include a place that includes the claim submission deadline. Kind of important!

Gymnopédie Pablo (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 15 June 2022 20:43 (one year ago) link

please tell me it includes a "wizard" on top of the FAQ format.

sarahell, Thursday, 16 June 2022 01:56 (one year ago) link

related to the topic of co-workers -- do you know if there is a way to have an employer health plan where the employees are insured by different companies?

sarahell, Thursday, 16 June 2022 02:03 (one year ago) link

(that is an xp to Neando)

sarahell, Thursday, 16 June 2022 02:03 (one year ago) link

I've seen that at large companies but never at medium or small ones. Mr. Jaq works at a state university where there are options for 3 different plan providers.

Jaq, Thursday, 16 June 2022 02:13 (one year ago) link

sarahell - it is possible. my company has a marketplace plan similar to those you find on state/federal marketplaces, with tiers of Bronze/Silver/Gold, and then you choose your carrier. so I could have had this same plan w/ a diff carrier.

but even non-marketplace plans, you can have the same plan with choice of diff carrier. As Jaq says, this is more common at large companies. lots of companies only offer one carrier. or the plan is inextricably tied to the carrier (i.e. "there's an HMO plan, but you can only have Aetna").

that's kinda why I'm kicking myself. I coulda checked what plans utilized CVS before signing up.

Slowzy LOLtidore (Neanderthal), Thursday, 16 June 2022 13:29 (one year ago) link

btw, not dumb co-workers, but 'venting'.....

re: the growing cost of health care coverage and shrinking employer contributions.

when I started with this company, I paid something like $20-$40 a month to cover just me on an HMO plan that covered 100% of my services with no deductible. amazing plan.

I pay the same amount now for a garbage Bronze $2500 deductible plan that only covers 70% coinsurance and has an HSA attached, with zero employer contributions. they no longer offer plans like the one I had 17 years ago, but even for a plan that covers 90% with a minimal deductible, I'd have to pay hundreds of dollars per month. for just me!

Slowzy LOLtidore (Neanderthal), Thursday, 16 June 2022 13:32 (one year ago) link

of course I had that mega awesome plan when I was 24 and had no health maladies to speak of.

Slowzy LOLtidore (Neanderthal), Thursday, 16 June 2022 13:33 (one year ago) link

should have stayed 24 then, shouldn't you. poor planning.

Vance Vance Devolution (sic), Thursday, 16 June 2022 18:41 (one year ago) link

I was 24 for 4 years actually

Slowzy LOLtidore (Neanderthal), Thursday, 16 June 2022 18:57 (one year ago) link

i'm 24

mh, Thursday, 16 June 2022 19:04 (one year ago) link

i legit just felt a weird existential dread thinking about how i’m closer to 42 than 24.

broccoli rabe thomas (the table is the table), Thursday, 16 June 2022 21:54 (one year ago) link

I've got 5 months until 42 :/

Slowzy LOLtidore (Neanderthal), Thursday, 16 June 2022 21:59 (one year ago) link

though I hate prime numbers so I guess I prefer that

Slowzy LOLtidore (Neanderthal), Thursday, 16 June 2022 21:59 (one year ago) link

wait a minute, hold on, back up, you hate prime numbers?! what! why!!

bule bulak oying (cat), Friday, 17 June 2022 02:48 (one year ago) link

lol I keep screwing up my age based on a couple friends’ ages, my brain rolls me over to the next year a month or so before, and then after that I think I’m a year older or younger than I actually am

so yes, I’ve almost said i’m 42 multiple times in the last month. so instead, 24 😊

mh, Friday, 17 June 2022 04:17 (one year ago) link

before my actual birthday that is

mh, Friday, 17 June 2022 04:17 (one year ago) link

I'm 24 x 2 - so I guess I have as much health as two 24-year olds

sarahell, Friday, 17 June 2022 17:06 (one year ago) link

I resigned from my job this week! (Going to a new one!) Which is good because I've developed severe loathing for anyone in the organisation's technical & product teams, who clearly give more of a shit about internal KPIs rather than uhhhhh our customers.

Keep the Aspidistra TikToking (King Boy Pato), Friday, 17 June 2022 21:44 (one year ago) link

I am much closer to retirement than I am to the beginning of my career. That gives me anxiety.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 17 June 2022 21:53 (one year ago) link

not really 'stupid people', but more venting, but the product we've spent almost a year training people on and rolling out, after being fairly smooth technologically for a while, had the login/syncing stop working abruptly out of nowhere today. we were thinking it was a simple 'outage' that would be fixed, now we're being told "welp the entire login process is going to change for good, we'll have a new document for you later today".

which means not only will my partner and I have to retrain every trainer on this new process, but that misguided folk are going to come out of the woodwork asking him and I what to do because many of the users already (falsely) think he and I are product IT and ignore what emails say.

my poor boss's boss is coming back after a week off today to this, and she just dealt yesterday with her mother falling and fracturing her thigh, and also exposing her to COVID as she unknowingly had it prior to admission. (her and I are good buddies due to the ailing parental connection)

Doop Snogg (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 22 June 2022 14:15 (one year ago) link

two weeks pass...

two separate, simple processes that wind up only being done by me every time. even though I've showed three different people how to do them multiple times, and sent them reference emails with screenshots/links to previous tasks I created (which can literally be copied into a new task with just the details changed).

why don't I complain? well, cos it makes me termination-proof since if I leave, nobody knows how to do it.

Doop Snogg (Neanderthal), Friday, 8 July 2022 18:14 (one year ago) link

my business instructor asks me what time training ends today - she asks me this at 5 pm ET. the class ends at 5:30 pm ET. It said this on the initial email I sent welcoming them to instructing the class. But even more bafflingly, that's the time the Out look invite says - the invite that this person CREATED THEMSELVES.

do you feel like you work in a sitcom without a laugh track because it has ceased to be funny?

the girl lacan't help it (sarahell), Tuesday, 12 July 2022 01:26 (one year ago) link

actually today it was very funny, i told my boss's boss "get what *I* just got asked?"

lol ... i had a client a month ago (now ex-client) ask me to design a form for them to use as a template ... so I did, even though I strongly suspect they could have done this themself. Then I sent the template form to them, and got asked, "what do I do with it once I fill it out?" ... This is the person who manages and oversees the information architecture for the organization. Like ... do I need to tell the person that makes the folders and organizes them to make a folder and put it in one?

the girl lacan't help it (sarahell), Tuesday, 12 July 2022 03:28 (one year ago) link

I didn't respond because anything I could think of would have come across as sarcastic or antagonistic and while the question seemed absurdly stupid, they weren't asking it to be an asshole.

the girl lacan't help it (sarahell), Tuesday, 12 July 2022 03:31 (one year ago) link

hah I hate those situations because it seems like anything you say will come across as, well, glib, and it's mostly because the question was....something they should have known?

yes, exactly.

sarahell, Tuesday, 12 July 2022 15:31 (one year ago) link

ok, now this one isn't funny and making me angry. so the new Customer Care tool rollout that I've mentioned like 700 times itt, well, the old tool, no access had to be granted, you automatically had it when you were given access to a specific client. when they rolled out the new tool, access was separate, so now we as trainers had to for the first time submit access requests . creating a lot of extra work. but we got used to it. and when we submitted it, it took effect immediately, so it worked just fine.

abruptly, in June, they told us they'd be changing the way access was granted later in the year. they apparently did this last week, and all of us were left off of the notification, so my manager had to find out, and one of my colleagues had to figure out the new process as the SOP was dicked up.

I didn't find this out until today as I was gone all but two days last week, and now I have learners who don't have needed access two days into training. AND....our training client is missing from the list of clients to request, and now instead of the access being instantly granted, it requires two separate approvers to approve, and takes another half hour.

I was supposed to visit dad in the hospital today by lunch. now I have no idea how I'm going to do that, as all I've been doing is this all day.

third time I've had to ask the managers to resume putting our ad hoc assignments on our group calendar as they used to do this, and abruptly stopped for no reason and without warning. Instead, they just assumed we'd check these random training trackers throughout the day, so a few times I almost missed that i had an assignment as our group calendar showed as blank, like I had no assignments.

on Friday, I got assigned like 3 classes to prep this week after I had left on PTO for the afternoon, and I didn't learn about them until 11:30 am this morning. now scrambling to figure out what I'm even doing and get these meetings scheduled in an hour.

Every single time I work with this particular coworker, it's the same story:

him: Hey, so I looked into this and there are two solutions, A or B. Which do you want?

me: Well, Option B looks better for the end users, let's go with that.

him: Oh, well, that doesn't really work. Here's why we need to do Option A.

me (internally): so why didn't you just say that option A was what we needed in the first place?!

This happened so often that I now anticipate this back and forth so I try to pre-empt it, but to no avail. This morning:

him: I looked at that lab space this morning, we can go with Option A or B here.

me: Well before I get back to the users, can you let me know if there are any issues that would prevent one of the options working on your end?

him: Whatever the user wants is fine with me.

me: Okay, so I talked to the lab manager, Option A is definitely their preference.

him: Well, I was hoping they'd pick Option B because that's really the only option that works on our end.

me: (internally screaming endlessly)

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 20 July 2022 16:28 (one year ago) link

ugh ... sorry you have to suffer this absurdity

meanwhile ... my co-worker went on vacation without giving me any heads up. I am guessing that in his mind, he would be trying to get work done while on this camping trip, and thus maybe he did not semantically consider it a "vacation" and thus, didn't communicate this to me ... while it does make me feel better about him not responding to my calls, texts, or emails ... still ... it is like we exist in some parallel universe where it is okay to do this??

funky house septics: an ILX plumbing thread (sarahell), Wednesday, 20 July 2022 16:33 (one year ago) link

3 years ago, when I was a contractor and not an employee yet, I had scheduled a meeting with him for Wednesday. Tuesday afternoon I call him to confirm the meeting time, as he frequently would need to reschedule meetings.

He answered the phone and said, "I am going through airport security right now, I can't really talk"
Me: You are at the airport?
Him: Yes, with my family
Me: Your family is going on a trip?
Him: Yes, me and my family are going to Italy for two weeks. Gotta go. Bye.

funky house septics: an ILX plumbing thread (sarahell), Wednesday, 20 July 2022 16:36 (one year ago) link

No, that is definitely not ok. first of all, "well I'm still going to get some work done so it's not really vacay" is something people have fed me before and what usually happens is, they.....don't get much, if any work done while they're gone. and they're still not available when you need them.

fact is, if you're going to be somewhere that is not an office where your primary aim is not working but doing something recreational, and where you could feasibly lose connection at a moment's notice and not be able to get it back, you should tell people so they know not to expect you to be available.

thank you for reminding me of the rules of this universe, Neando! <3

sarahell, Wednesday, 20 July 2022 16:38 (one year ago) link

<3

Now, I will say, there were definitely times I would go out of town for like festivals/concerts etc and bring my laptop to work, but these weren't vacations, like I would tell everybody I have full availability during my normal hours today, made back-up plans if the hotel connection wasn't working (like going to a library). even took a trip to Vegas and worked 6:30 am - 3:00 pm so that I'd be present at my usual hours ET. I think that's ok.

but you know going on a trip where "hmm maybe one hour or two I'm working each day, tops" and you're ultimately unavailable, fuck no.

lol, going on a two week Italy vacation with no notice.

seriously though, if it weren't for the fact that his wife dutifully captures every endearing moment of their child's life on Instagram ... I would have had no clue.

sarahell, Wednesday, 20 July 2022 16:39 (one year ago) link

my favorite thing is when someone is going on vacation, and lists you as a backup without talking to you OR making sure you're available those days.

I always clear it with people first (unless it's an evergreen backup sitch where I'm one of three people who are points of contact on something), but I once had someone send this big blast email to everyone listing me as their backup for their staycation and I had to privately email them and say "uhm, I'm on PTO four of these days, so no I'm not your backup".

That is frustrating, I can't imagine any scenario where you wouldn't let folks know you are on vacation!

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 20 July 2022 16:51 (one year ago) link

thank you, jon, for being yet another grounding voice ... I swear this guy exists in a parallel universe

my favorite thing is when someone is going on vacation, and lists you as a backup without talking to you OR making sure you're available those days.

hahaha, he has done this as well ... fortunately, I have no family obligations and never go anywhere and I am paid by the hour ... on the bright side, I feel good that he trusts me to do a good job covering for him (this is really a major accomplishment) ... on the not-so-bright-side, I will be told at 11pm that I have to be on site for an inspection at 9am the next morning (which would often be when I am waking up in the morning).

sarahell, Wednesday, 20 July 2022 16:58 (one year ago) link

My coworker scheduled a six week vacation through a product launch and checked in with me being okay to cover her support work through it a week after we found out she had booked it. Six weeks! Another dev and I have been working nonstop for this launch and dreaming of vacation time.

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Wednesday, 20 July 2022 22:07 (one year ago) link

My coworker scheduled a six week vacation through a product launch and checked in with me being okay to cover her support work through it a week after we found out she had booked it. Six weeks! Another dev and I have been working nonstop for this launch and dreaming of vacation time.

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Wednesday, 20 July 2022 22:07 (one year ago) link

Mostly my co-workers are actually great, no complaints. Kind of bummed about this new co-worker. We have these team calls where we just kinda shoot the shit and talk about our weeks, and last month a lot of what I had to talk about was Pride, and she ghosted on the call two weeks in a row when I started talking about it. She's started replying to my emails with "Have a blessed day!" I kind of get the feeling she doesn't approve of my _lifestyle_ or my _agenda_, but she's professional enough not to say so directly. She's definitely going to have a worse time of it than I will, but it still sucks. We're probably not going to have a very close working relationship.

Kate (rushomancy), Saturday, 23 July 2022 13:58 (one year ago) link

hey, this says 1 minute, i thought we'd agreed on 30 seconds?

yeah, but then remember when boss said to standardise the code so we didn't have two branches to maintain and everything else uses 1 minute...

well, this needs to be 30 seconds.

ok, i will change it...

[two sprints go by, a simple change held up by design discussions, other work in the same area, lack of reviewers and testers. finally goes live on friday morning...]

monday morning:

hey, 30 seconds is too short, needs to be longer... and this needs doing before massive public event happening on thursday...

(at least it's a parameter change now, and we don't need to redeploy)

koogs, Monday, 25 July 2022 12:20 (one year ago) link

^lol oi that is painful

my classes are going well this week, but this is the shit that infuriates me. so they gave us all 'recharge' days this month, to take a day off to just take a mental health day. that part is cool and good.

but it has to be done by the end of the month, meaning lots of managers are using theirs this week as they put it off, and some are bookending it with extra PTO days. so this means managers are in short supply Thursday and Friday.

we need them to meet with their new hires and lead a few important presentations, and I get told by the location leader "we're just gonna have to move it to next week, we don't have anybody available".

you're the same people that requested these classes start this week, you dumbfuck, how did you not know we had these meetings that require managers, which we've always needed and you've always known we needed? Pushing to next week just messes with the flow of things, means we have to backtrack and wreck the momentum.

She's started replying to my emails with "Have a blessed day!" I kind of get the feeling she doesn't approve of my _lifestyle_ or my _agenda_, but she's professional enough not to say so directly.

Jesus would be so proud.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 25 July 2022 15:19 (one year ago) link

blessed day, gtfo of here with that nonsense.

We have these team calls where we just kinda shoot the shit and talk about our weeks,

this is the kind of thing that could be really stupid and annoying tbh, though maybe y'all actually like each other and it's cool, idk

sarahell, Monday, 25 July 2022 16:48 (one year ago) link

this is the kind of thing that could be really stupid and annoying tbh, though maybe y'all actually like each other and it's cool, idk

― sarahell

yeah we legit like each other so it works

Jesus would be so proud.

― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux)

if jesus has a problem with it he can address it with her directly, at this point i'm assuming that jesus is totally cool with all the awful shit people do in his name. i'm done caping for the dude.

Kate (rushomancy), Monday, 25 July 2022 17:08 (one year ago) link

I don't mind shoot the shit calls except when I'm really busy, like, all that forced levity does is make me think of how much more I have to do if it's not conveniently timed.

I already keep a lot of things about myself a mystery which has served me well over the last 17.5 years.

so that issue I bitched about a few weeks ago, where it's an issue that I've told everybody how to fix 3000 times and emailed them instructions and they play forgetful.

so last week, one of them actually remembered and did the entire thing without me! I was so happy.

then the same issue comes up again today and once again two people (one of whom is a gd MANAGER) once again forgot how to fix it and they addressed the issue entirely incorrectly, so other people had to report the issue again later in the afternoon.

like if the issue is a GUI issue, the GUI part has to be fixed or nothing will work for anybody!

I don't mind shoot the shit calls except when I'm really busy, like, all that forced levity does is make me think of how much more I have to do if it's not conveniently timed.

― We were clothed, except for Caan, who was naked. Don't know why. (Neanderthal)

well, like one coworker is talking about her sick cat, which i guess would be really fucking annoying if i didn't care about her or her cat, but i do in fact care about her cat and i hope her cat gets better soon, and it's good to hear her updates on the cat situation. it only really works if you actually like your co-workers, i feel like.

Kate (rushomancy), Monday, 25 July 2022 17:33 (one year ago) link

I mean I do like mine, and we take a vested interest in each other's lives. I don't mind having these as long as workload is small and I can afford the hour away. I had to miss one last time for that reason, sadly.

we have a caretaker support chat going with me, my boss, and my boss's boss, who are all in the same position atm. it's helpful.

if jesus has a problem with it he can address it with her directly, at this point i'm assuming that jesus is totally cool with all the awful shit people do in his name. i'm done caping for the dude.

Post of the day.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 25 July 2022 17:43 (one year ago) link

otm. if Jesus was real, he's kinda been cool lying back in the shadows while millions of his followers disagree on what he said and he's not exactly hell-bent on coming back and clarifying it so fucker is complicit.

I don't mind shoot the shit calls except when I'm really busy, like, all that forced levity does is make me think of how much more I have to do if it's not conveniently timed.

I already keep a lot of things about myself a mystery which has served me well over the last 17.5 years.

― We were clothed, except for Caan, who was naked. Don't know why. (Neanderthal), Monday, July 25, 2022 10:26 AM (one hour ago)

yeah, that's pretty much what I was thinking, esp. in the context of a large company or government agency. Maybe I just end up being "the person who takes on a lot of work and is conscientious about it actually getting done well" which also makes me feel this way.

meanwhile, my co-worker apologized for not telling me he was going on a camping vacation, and today, he actually texted me in the morning letting me know he is taking a personal day. I thanked him for that.

sarahell, Monday, 25 July 2022 18:47 (one year ago) link

that's all it requires, just a liiiittle communication.

I've a bit secretive/cagey still even after all this time with the company because there was a short period of time where I listed my employer on FB, and I made one little post about a pay raise I got, and inexplicably, someone I worked with saw it and reported it to another person I wasn't friends with, and it got all the way back to my manager. I didn't get in trouble, per se, but that taught me to keep both lives separate.

I changed my employment to "Fay Canoes" a while back and every co-worker is blocked from seeing any status I write, so as far as the profile looks to them, I've never posted to FB lol. there's a few ex-co workers who left the company who I unblocked because tehy're trustworthy.

most of my friends don't even know the name of where I work. and it's a terrible company name so I'm happy with that.

my only slipup was when I saw the black metal band Mayhem live and posted a video of it including me drunkenly flailing to them, and I mistakenly set the privacy to "All Friends", and left off the coworkers group from teh list of exclusions, and one of my colleagues (who used to be a metalhead) laughed about how "someone here went to a cool concert last night".

lol @ fay canoes ... it took me a while to get it, embarrassingly enough.

while I genuinely take pride in the org I work for (part-time, I still have a lot of freelance work), non-profit culture (at least here in the US) generally expects you to list your employer on FB (and social media) and do outreach (and often fundraising) for your employer via your social network. ... I've seen a lot of awkwardness around this, esp. when the org gets called out for something. An org I used to work for had a problem of this type, (actually two of them did, but one was a large museum and my position, when I worked there, was on-call so I didn't have the same affiliation) and when that happened, I was so fucking glad I no longer worked there and could just not be involved in the drama.

sarahell, Monday, 25 July 2022 19:04 (one year ago) link

xp Mayhem slays ftw

sarahell, Monday, 25 July 2022 19:05 (one year ago) link

ya they do. i was embarrassed for my boss to see how much a fool I typically acted.

in my old job, I didn't train except for small pockets of year, so if a cool show wasn't coming to FL, but was coming to ATL during the week, I'd take a Megabus there, stay overnight, and work from the hotel/a library.

She's started replying to my emails with "Have a blessed day!"

You could start saying “have a heeeaaavenleeeyy daayyyy” back to her in a really pandering tone if you really wanted to get under her skin. Or maybe she’ll get the reference and love it. Who knows.

This week is really testing me, struggling with feeling like I'm a punching bag at work. As I've mentioned before, I work tangentially related to construction projects, an inherently inconvenient process that at times requires annoying disruption, so I'm no stranger to fielding and responding to complaints. An annoying, time consuming part of the job, but it's part of the job.

All that said, holy shit, the entitlement and rudeness level of people is off the charts right now and it's really making it difficult to turn up day after day doing my best. Every morning I log in to a barrage of not just complaints, but complaints that really personally directed at me as if I individually am ruining their professional lives. And I wish that was flowery language I was adding for dramatic effect, but "these delays are ruining our lives and abilities to perform our duties" was a direct quote from one of this morning's gems. The delays in question? The "softer" lounge chairs they requested to replace the seating in the break room have been on backorder from the manufacturer.

I guess this is hardly unique to me, people seem to have gone collectively batshit over the course of the pandemic in all areas of life, but damn if this isn't just making my job a pure misery most days.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 27 July 2022 14:31 (one year ago) link

I made one little post about a pay raise I got, and inexplicably, someone I worked with saw it and reported it to another person I wasn't friends with, and it got all the way back to my manager. I didn't get in trouble, per se,

That's good because penalizing employees for disclosing their pay is ILLEGAL.

Ima Gardener (in orbit), Wednesday, 27 July 2022 15:03 (one year ago) link

The delays in question? The "softer" lounge chairs they requested to replace the seating in the break room have been on backorder from the manufacturer.

ughhhhhhhhhhhhhh sorry

sarahell, Wednesday, 27 July 2022 15:13 (one year ago) link

Thanks, in isolation it's easy enough to laugh at something plainly ridiculous like that, but when it's frequent and coupled with other abuse, it gets more wearying than anything else.

It was illuminating to be told by two different people this week that I am personally responsible for the global supply chain issues affecting the delivery of audio-visual control equipment.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 27 July 2022 15:49 (one year ago) link

jon, my last job was “tangentially related to construction” as well and I can totally relate to the toxicity. So much of it was caused by knowingly unrealistic deadlines set by clients/management.

brimstead, Wednesday, 27 July 2022 15:55 (one year ago) link

jon, my last job was “tangentially related to construction” as well and I can totally relate to the toxicity. So much of it was caused by knowingly unrealistic deadlines set by clients/management.

brimstead, Wednesday, 27 July 2022 15:55 (one year ago) link

whoops

brimstead, Wednesday, 27 July 2022 15:55 (one year ago) link

Yeah, throw academia into the mix and it gets even worse.

admin to new department head hire: "we are so glad to have you here! we will give you anything you need to get your group/lab/team up and running!"

admin to me: "build out this space for the new hire but the budget we're giving you will only cover roughly 1/12th of what we promised them and you have to deliver that message, good luck, byeeeeeeeee"

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 27 July 2022 16:08 (one year ago) link

Damn it, brimstead, these double posts are ruining our lives and abilities to perform our duties!

nickn, Wednesday, 27 July 2022 16:20 (one year ago) link

Yeah that extra scrolling I had to do was painful and just ruined the rest of the day.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 27 July 2022 16:21 (one year ago) link

That's good because penalizing employees for disclosing their pay is ILLEGAL.

― Ima Gardener (in orbit), Wednesday, July 27, 2022 11:03 AM bookmarkflaglink

yep (though at the time, I didn't actually realize that, though I suspect my manager did).

the person who ratted on me is an insufferable conservative Rick Scott-voting asshole who would call her son during lunch, yell at him for 20 minutes, and bang her desk disruptively in anger. and who would go to HR any time she got any performance feedback from her manager, to get it rescinded.

sorry you're on the receiving of that shit, jon. like who gaf about the break room chairs being late.

so that new bit of technology I bitched about weeks ago. What great design and innovation, now that I've gotten to learn more about it.

Old process:

Can request access with batch Excel file containing company IDs

Get instant confirmation that access has been processed, or reason it could not be processed (i.e. already had access)

Email goes out to approvers and the individual who gained access

Access effective immediately

Non-approvers who submit requests sends the approval request to a queue, where it sits indefinitely until processed

New process:

Can request access with batch Excel file but it's not working yet and requires much more info

People with an account on the new server just need client access requested, those without must have an account requested AND client access

^If you choose the wrong option for this person, it will let you submit the task, but absolutely nothing will process, and there will be no error message or warning that the submission didn't go through.

Access takes 30+ minutes to go through from time of approval.

If non-approver requests, it is sent to approvers, but if approvers don't approve the access within a half hour, it is automatically denied and must be re-submitted

oh fuck today. so somehow, none of the managers input the 8 hours of time worked last week for 6 new hires. they didn't realize this until like, today, when we've already passed the cutoff for this week's paycheck. so none of them are getting paid this week (which I'm still fairly sure is illegal and plan to whistleblow on) and it's going to be paid to them two weeks late. which, ok, it's a small check, but some of them may have been counting on it.

none of them made a formal statement or apology to the six, and my instructors got peppered with questions about it. when I asked if anybody could reach out to the 6 and send a formal statement/apology/explanation, I got an eyeroll GIF sent back to me.

.....................

this is how we treat new hires now. fantastic.

WONDER WHY EVERYBODY QUITS.

obviously I'm going to do something about it because I'm livid. I told my boss's boss. but now going to debate going to HR about it.

it's just disgusting.

...so I could do this work from home? DM me.

maf you one two (maffew12), Wednesday, 27 July 2022 22:49 (one year ago) link

6 hours before the aforementioned national event "we should check tonight's thing"...

it's not working...

koogs, Thursday, 28 July 2022 11:49 (one year ago) link

xp - my current job is "tangentially related to construction" and unrealistic deadlines is part of the work -- even if you think you are being very realistic about how long it will take, it will often end up being unrealistic in practice ... also, having to be the messenger is thankless and exhausting. ... My co-worker has to do a lot of this.

sarahell, Thursday, 28 July 2022 16:29 (one year ago) link

obviously I'm going to do something about it because I'm livid. I told my boss's boss. but now going to debate going to HR about it.

it's just disgusting.

― We were clothed, except for Caan, who was naked. Don't know why. (Neanderthal), Wednesday, July 27, 2022 2:45 PM (yesterday)

good for you! Technology is pretty amazing, in theory, they could process these workers' pay rn and they could get a direct deposit by tomorrow.

sarahell, Thursday, 28 July 2022 16:44 (one year ago) link

I just learned in the third hour of today’s meeting that “stumbling blocks are the same thing as stepping stones, you just use them differently.”

JoeStork, Thursday, 28 July 2022 18:43 (one year ago) link

I'm sorry you had me at "third hour of today's meeting" ... whoa

sarahell, Thursday, 28 July 2022 19:31 (one year ago) link

Also included a helpful PowerPoint: “Workflows is how you get your work done. It’s the sequence of TASKS from start to finish.”

JoeStork, Thursday, 28 July 2022 19:45 (one year ago) link

god I hate meetings hate hate hate hate. 3 hour meeting = 3 hours too many

how is "workflows" a singular noun ??? shouldn't that be "are" and not "is"?

sarahell, Thursday, 28 July 2022 22:19 (one year ago) link

yeah, i'm a government social worker and whenever we have meetings i feel like i'm getting to experience 90s office culture preserved in amber, like i exist in a Dilbert strip from 25 years ago. The last meeting we had literally included the phrase "work smarter not harder" and included an inspirational quote from Walt Disney, "The way to get started is to quit talking and begin doing." (My job is like 50% talking.)

JoeStork, Friday, 29 July 2022 03:19 (one year ago) link

I'm always livid when I realise people that useless get to exist and be paid well for it. Gah.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Friday, 29 July 2022 05:37 (one year ago) link

I was in a 40-50 person department that was dissolved in 2010. none of us were laid off, but we were sent to other departments. the highest ranked performers were sent to implementations, the rest were sent to our content team.

we're meeting with them today, and they're sharing with us an SOP for a process. Step #1 of the SOP has *17* directions inside it. 17 different things to do. it never occurred to them that maybe these need to be broken into separate steps in the SOP rather than all lumped into Step 1.

it's hilariously bad. scared to see how many directions Step 2 has.

people really have that much difficulty telling other people how to do things? ... or is it the people that would be following the process? Are they that ... clueless? ... Or is this for like, random internet person who could make every stupid mistake imaginable and then other stupid mistakes you haven't yet imagined?

sarahell, Friday, 29 July 2022 15:48 (one year ago) link

meanwhile -- one of the business newsletters that I actually looked at today had this quote

I simultaneously admire and am nonplussed by the lone wolf accountants and bookkeepers. To choose to go it alone, knowing what you know about the job of an accountant, is a bold choice. But why choose it? Trust issues? Don't play nice with others? Unusual eating habits? There are all kinds of solitary pursuits: writer, artist, serial killer. So why choose to be an accountant solo? Actually, I know why. Accountants can make a living. A very good living, even.

this thread today is really making me appreciate that choice.

sarahell, Friday, 29 July 2022 15:58 (one year ago) link

and yes, all three: trust issues, don't play nice with others, and unusual eating habits thank you.

sarahell, Friday, 29 July 2022 15:59 (one year ago) link

Someone’s already written a book on harnessing the secrets of serial killers to improve your productivity and management skills, right?

JoeStork, Friday, 29 July 2022 16:25 (one year ago) link

meanwhile my next few months are about to be hell, because special temporary assignment that I was supposed to work on from 8/2 - 8/17 was supposed to be the only thing I was working on, and then the doofus in charge of assigning work out decided to throw a full load on top of that assignment.

last summer during our busy season, I mostly had 3-4 new hire classes to supervise at a time, which is actually pretty hefty, but I could manage. I hit 10 next week, 13 the week after, before I finally come back down to 7.

10 is my previous record, and these were all seasonal people pre-pandemic who were in office who require less attention, and half of those were close to completion all ready. for new hire classes, I have to book 5 guest speakers on 3 different days.

instead of taking work off my plate, they just said "tell us what you need next week and we'll help". yes, because delegating is so easy when you're in the weeds.

Someone’s already written a book on harnessing the secrets of serial killers to improve your productivity and management skills, right?

― JoeStork

i think it was called _the art of the deal_

Kate (rushomancy), Friday, 29 July 2022 16:42 (one year ago) link

xp - good job!

sarahell, Friday, 29 July 2022 16:56 (one year ago) link

https://owlcation.com/social-sciences/The-Benefits-of-Psychopathy-for-Business-and-Capitalism

"References

Babiak, P. , Hare, R. (2007). Snakes in suits: when psychopaths go to work. Published New York, Regan Books.

Dutton, K.. (2012). The wisdom of psychopaths: lessons in life from Saints, spies and serial killers. Published London, William Heinemann. "

koogs, Friday, 29 July 2022 19:18 (one year ago) link

once again, had to remind my leaders today that I have 14 classes I'm overseeing next week and specifically tell them the 5 that I cannot observe and that they need to help me with.

so I looked at all of my other teammates. Nobody else has more than *7*. some have *1*.

it's based on location but come the fuck on. the guy who assigned me all these only has 5 himself.

however, I'm nothing if not created, so I am cheating to get what I need.

I'm supposed to observe every instructor for 30-60 minutes within teh first week of training so I can give feedback. Well, do the math - that's 30+ people, 15-30 hours. no way I can do that and do my other stuff during core business hours.

so I"m having instructors use the Record feature on MS Teams to record sessions so I can review them any time I feel like it. I'm not supposed to do that but I told them it's either that or it doesn't happen at all.

"Leaders have a lot of eyes on this, so we need to be careful".

I don't care what executive has their hemorrhoids in a twist, they're the ones who made the bad decision to hire 750 people at the same fucking time, knowing we'd only have barely-ready, green instructors available due to the sheer size.

that was the one-liner that used to make me laugh in my old role. oh u think I care that an Executive is mad? that's basically foreplay to me.

I'm ashamed that there was a time in my career here where I was just as callous and unfeeling as these fucks despite 1/100000th of their salary

it finally happened, I basically had to quit monitoring 2-3 of my classes due to the sheer insane volume until help was provided to me (but help couldn't start until today), and sure enough, there was a behavior issue amongst two of my trainers, and now I'm having to address it and speak to why it happened.

told my boss's boss "well, this is what happens when we're so overworked that we don't have time to adequately monitor classes" and requested rather frustratedly that she tell leadership taht basically you're killing us right now.

because I truly don't care how well things go. I only feel bad if my inability to do my job due to this shit causes someone to quit because I wasn't there to see someone doing something that made a learner uncomfortable or gives up and quits to how badly the training is going. but that ain't my fault.

our training course servers go down globally today, mostly because we hired too many people at once and it's overloading the servers. yay, this is me trying to tell 13 classes worth of instructors how to somehow wing training because we have no backup for this now.

the third party system we moved to for several processes outright stopped working for a day because someone uploaded a bulk Excel job with one bad piece of data in it that caused the entire thing to stop working until someone manually fixed it.

you're literally going to hinge a system working on every user following directions appropriately? LOL great, I look forward to this breaking daily.

Old software, btw, actually screened the file first before you uploaded it and refused the upload if it was non-compliant. new software basically lets you upload a virus.

kinda lol but mostly sad

sarahell, Friday, 12 August 2022 15:36 (one year ago) link

i'm tempted to get a half day by like deliberately uploading a gif of Trump and crashing everything

how about an excel file with a pivot table of Trump gifs?

sarahell, Friday, 12 August 2022 16:08 (one year ago) link

omg that'd be a whole week off

on it

can you include one with sound efx?

sarahell, Friday, 12 August 2022 16:27 (one year ago) link

one of him honking the truck horn

i was thinking more of fart sounds, but, y'know ...

sarahell, Friday, 12 August 2022 17:16 (one year ago) link

would you trade it all in for a place with no calls, ever, and a large room of cubes with 3 other people who barely ever speak? Beyond this room I'm lucky to get a "good morning" returned. Everybody just checked out.

this place gives me the willies and i can't believe i've been here 4 years.. well kind of 2 given all the pandemic interruptions. I hope it hasn't turned me into a huge(r) weirdo. Somehow I've put together 3 job interviews over the next week, a couple even relevant to some schooling I did. wish me luck

2 months and 7 or 8 additional interviews later... one offer, for the highest paying gig of the lot. Was I selling myself short? My resume is a real grab bag of stuff... I have to spin a yarn in every interview I do for how this makes me the best candidate for X work. This job should get me back on track in a field I have worked in before and I'll re-write the resume to be more focused.

Should be a whole new raft of madness, and I imagine I'll be posting here at some point again. But I just wanted to stop in and say

NEVER SURRENDER
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maf you one two (maffew12), Sunday, 14 August 2022 14:31 (one year ago) link

Congrats! (I would hire you just based on your ascii skills...)

m0stly clean (Slowsquatch), Sunday, 14 August 2022 14:33 (one year ago) link

hey don't get me wrong, my DMs are very open

maf you one two (maffew12), Sunday, 14 August 2022 14:35 (one year ago) link

(*´∀`)ノゞ Thanks.。.・゚

maf you one two (maffew12), Sunday, 14 August 2022 14:36 (one year ago) link

rolls in 20 mins late for shift. "sorry i'm late i broke a nail opening my bag". not sure what ensued during the 20 mins .

oscar bravo, Sunday, 14 August 2022 16:33 (one year ago) link

the help i was promised last week never materialized, new stuff breaks every day, and I've given up trying to do my job and am just surfing the net for 15 minutes now until my mood improves.

Weltanschauung Dunston (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 16 August 2022 15:40 (one year ago) link

looking for trump gifs?

sarahell, Tuesday, 16 August 2022 16:12 (one year ago) link

oh i done found em.

lmao, IT sent a trainee someone else's monitor. one was named Antoinette, the other was named Annette. last names not at all similar.

manager dryly writes "can you see why IT might have been confused" when we report it.

Yes, I will ask both trainees to apologize to having similar first names. no idea what they were thinking having those names.

Weltanschauung Dunston (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 16 August 2022 16:32 (one year ago) link

we have someone in training who told us he needed to go to part-time DURING training (he was hired full-time) as he's going to college. when his manager asked how that would even work, since that would mean missing half a day of class every day for the next few weeks, he expressed surprise, saying he thought he could work his 8 hours whenever he wanted during the day, instead of, y'know, having to be in the class for 8 hours.

o_O

Weltanschauung Dunston (Neanderthal), Friday, 19 August 2022 17:57 (one year ago) link

is he a Sagittarius?

sarahell, Friday, 19 August 2022 19:01 (one year ago) link

always feel good when one of our hiring managers derisively screams "just get rid of her" in response to a report of someone we hired having chronic connection issues to our VPN, which IT and her ISP are both blaming the other party.

yeah, cos it's her fault, and her being fired won't leave her without money to live off of.

this is btw the same person who eyerolled at me for the payroll issue before relenting as I was about to go to HR.

and the worms, they entered his ass (Neanderthal), Friday, 26 August 2022 21:31 (one year ago) link

likewise, IT is getting beat up today due to a poor game of telephone.

"Brenda's got a ticket open, ticket #1234"
*one hour later*
"Brenda's ticket was resolved and closed, she said everything is working now".
*one hour later*
"welp, spoke too soon - it's come back"
'ok, i'll create a new ticket for her and we'll call her'

*they try and call twice, nobody answers the phone*

in another chat room

"Brenda is still having issues, ticket #1234 needs to be looked at, nobody has called her"
'that ticket is closed'
"What? she just opened it, why was it closed"
'IT has got to stop closing Tier 1 tickets prematurely'

they not only didn't, but the person they were helping ignored their calls too.

and the worms, they entered his ass (Neanderthal), Friday, 26 August 2022 21:42 (one year ago) link

it feels like larger companies / organizations have the "luxury" of throwing other departments under the bus, so it isn't as personal ... as opposed to the various places I work where it's individuals doing this to other individuals ...

Yesterday:
co-worker: complains about Rhonda blaming him for not having something done that he doesn't remember committing to having done this week
me: ugh, I'm sorry
co-worker: you're lucky you're not on these calls, though that's because Rhonda doesn't like you
me: oh? I didn't know that Rhonda didn't like me. I just figured I was excluded because I don't have a central role in this project and she wants to have fewer people in the meetings
co-worker: oh, maybe. It's okay though if she doesn't like you. She doesn't like Tom either. Or Nate.

sarahell, Saturday, 27 August 2022 17:49 (one year ago) link

On Thursday, all of our folders and files started disappearing rapidly from Dropbox, like - everything just *poof*! I immediately start searching "Dropbox ransomware" and feeling relief that I'm not in charge of IT or data security here. Turns out someone who reports to me wanted to free up disk space on their laptop, not realizing what deleting that Dropbox backup would mean since they were synching....

We got everything back in slightly over 24 hours but so many permissions need reapplied and so much panic.

Jaq, Saturday, 27 August 2022 18:27 (one year ago) link

I sort of hate using Dropbox. A place I freelance for (more specifically one designer I work with there) wants me using the desktop version (it’s my machine, not one they’ve provided) vs the browser version. He seems to think it’s superior - but I don’t want to suddenly have a bunch of disc space vanish because some dork throw a pile of 2 gig files in there, or, worse, accidentally save another clients stuff into the wrong folder and then have the entire team in possession of confidential materials.
He never misses an opportunity to be passive aggressive about it - but he’s largely powerless.

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 27 August 2022 20:45 (one year ago) link

so this morning...

*I get told the class that we were told would run 11:30 - 8:00 pm ET, and had confirmed for weeks, should have been 9:00 - 5:30 pm ET all along, and can I change it.

*One of the people I was given as an instructor says he has no idea about the assignment, I must have wrong person, etc etc, and nobody can confirm if they meant someone else with a similar name.

*Another person that is co-teaching a class which ends in 5 days has PTO 8/30 - 9/1, and her manager told the person who communicated the name to us, but that person didn't tell us the PTO days, so we found out just now. and the trainer didn't tell their co-trainer about the PTO and actually agreed to teach topics on those days she won't even be here.

*One person who we were volunteered for training had to withdraw because they had never seen the technology they'd be training people on (???).

the reason I'm relatively chill about it now is because when I do a relatively mediocre job of keeping things together, everybody will feel bad and give me another reward for 'dealing with their mess' that I can exchange for a gift card to some restaurant.

I like free food.

and the worms, they entered his ass (Neanderthal), Monday, 29 August 2022 15:19 (one year ago) link

xpost Thermo, I'd have those same concerns w/ using Dropbox. wouldn't that raise red flags with your company's security team?

and the worms, they entered his ass (Neanderthal), Monday, 29 August 2022 15:20 (one year ago) link

weirdly, no. i used to work there full time years ago, and their IT department were the most uptight, annoying obstacles to doing my job (in one instance literally dictating what fonts I could and - more importantly – could not use). i guess maybe with covid they had to be sedated so that they could get some workable solution to thousands of people working remotely. i dunno.
i already got them to buy me a bunch of external storage, if they really want to have a folder on my machine that is shared with everyone, I'm going to make them send me a dedicated computer (and i have very expensive needs)! otherwise, my computer, my rules.

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 29 August 2022 15:30 (one year ago) link

xp Thermo, Neando -- what I tend to do (because I've been in this situation with Dropbox and Google Drive) is just have a separate folder that is more or less a backup (and also contains work in progress that isn't at a point where it would be shared with the group or client) that doesn't sync with the shared folder. Last year, one of my clients had a group member who had shared one folder with a third party, didn't check the permissions on it, and the third party deleted the entire Google Drive, thinking they were just deleting their copy.

sarahell, Monday, 29 August 2022 16:32 (one year ago) link

there are a ton of common names for our partner employees in India, but everybody has their own email address/company ID, so it's not hard to keep them apart.

Nonetheless, they keep screwing it up. so I was supposed to prepare a learner to teach a class this week. His name was given, and he had three names, and he was the only person listed that way in the system. I wasn't given his ID or email. he immediately said he thought I had the wrong person, and so my first thought was "ok, I've contacted the wrong person".

so I go back and check and during the discussion yesterday, they list his employee ID. I look it up - same person I contacted. so nope, can't be mistaken identity.

but nope, the person who shared the employee ID gave the wrong employee ID. so I get feedback that I contacted the wrong person.

NO FUCKBRAINS, YOU GAVE ME THE WRONG CONTACT INFO. I pushed back pretty hard on this one.

and the worms, they entered his ass (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 30 August 2022 17:20 (one year ago) link

Neando, i’m going to say this in the best way i can:

whenever you feel like you’re able, please quit your job.

it just sounds terrible, and i understand why you’re staying because you’ve written about it, but it also just seems like the organization is inept and that you are dealing with the fallout from that in a way that is negatively impacting yr well-being.

broccoli rabe thomas (the table is the table), Tuesday, 30 August 2022 22:25 (one year ago) link

this one's more 'lols' than aggravation or anything, but

there's a blog written by one of our leaders and it says

"What are you doing to prevent another 9/11 attack?"

oh shit, that's MY job now? I thought Matthew was the anti-terrorist coordinator.

Mr Haaland's Opus (Neanderthal), Friday, 9 September 2022 20:52 (one year ago) link

(it's actually more talking about the need to follow data privacy rules and be careful about phishing, all things I agree with, but wow, what a hilariously bad title).

Mr Haaland's Opus (Neanderthal), Friday, 9 September 2022 20:52 (one year ago) link

Boss wants to "treat" (his word) us to a "nice lunch and warehouse tour" from one of our vendors in a few weeks, although this is clearly mandatory.

The warehouse is 2.5 hours from my house, I will need to leave earlier and arrive home later than I would for a normal workday and spend 5 hours of my Friday sitting in traffic.

Some treat.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 9 September 2022 20:55 (one year ago) link

you're....billing this, right?

Mr Haaland's Opus (Neanderthal), Friday, 9 September 2022 20:56 (one year ago) link

cos fuck, that should be 5 hours plus any other hours you work that day.

Mr Haaland's Opus (Neanderthal), Friday, 9 September 2022 20:56 (one year ago) link

I mean, with the travel time it'll end up literally all I do that day, so hard to argue that I'll spend *extra* time that day (unless traffic is really bad). But really annoyed that I have to spend that much time in traffic for mandatory "fun".

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 9 September 2022 20:59 (one year ago) link

expense your gas and any wear and tear

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Friday, 9 September 2022 21:00 (one year ago) link

and ofc it's completely inaccessible by public transportation

will be doing exactly that for sure, Moodles

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 9 September 2022 21:00 (one year ago) link

idk just annoyed because my old jobs always told these vendors that they could feed us and pitch us all they want, but they had to come to us.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 9 September 2022 21:01 (one year ago) link

62.5 cents/mile, just sayin

DPRK in Cincinnati (WmC), Saturday, 10 September 2022 13:36 (one year ago) link

yeah, there was one year I was required to take a business trip to Ocala, FL (which is maybe 90 mins from my home) and I basically made back my gas plus a lil profit.

Mr Haaland's Opus (Neanderthal), Saturday, 10 September 2022 16:17 (one year ago) link

kinda curious how a "warehouse tour" constitutes a treat? ...

and here we have some pallets stored on industrial shelving anchored to the ground. And this is a pallet jack and our new forklift. This forklift has volume control for the beeping sound it makes when you put it in reverse. Over here is where we store the kitty litter to pour around the forklift in case it leaks. ... And over here, we have new shelving, note on this shelving we have plywood laid down so things don't fall through the slats of the pallets ...

sarahell, Saturday, 10 September 2022 19:47 (one year ago) link

this isn't a coworker really (thank god), it's a "dynamic" lizard person sociopath nightmare from an outside agency who is hellbent on wresting our agency's responsibilities from our admittedly dysfunctional management in order to buff her resume. if i have to hear one more work person refer to another work person as a "rock star" again i will commit seppuku in front of them.

(grim) pump track (wales) (map), Tuesday, 13 September 2022 23:51 (one year ago) link

i didn't go to library school to take orders from repulsively greasy d-list politicians.

(grim) pump track (wales) (map), Tuesday, 13 September 2022 23:53 (one year ago) link

Yesterday on a team call, my manager asked me to pull together some data from salesforce.com to help count up the number of sales opportunities that came through our different lines of business over the last year. This is a very normal and straightforward request for me as I am the data and analytics guy on the team. However, one of my teammates who is constantly on my shit about my reports and data for god-knows-what reason, immediately piped in and said he could help me with finding the data in salesforce and then I could put it together in excel since he doesn't know as much about pivot tables and such. Seeing as I was a salesforce.com admin for many years, ran countless reports out of salesforce, and have pulled similar data to this request many times, I said thanks but I have it under control.

So I very quickly pull down the data needed, pop it all in a spreadsheet, create a couple large pivot tables, and send it off to the team. Now here's where I probably made some bad choices, that I could have thought through more. As the tables were large enough that they couldn't fully fit on an average sized computer screen at 100% resolution, I decided to freeze the header rows so that they would be visible as you scroll down the table and you could tell what each column represents. I maybe should have thought through how this could look confusing.

So this morning, said co-worker fires off an urgent email to the team asking why the totals on my pivot table don't add up, the numbers in each column were far below the total values, he included a screen shot of my tables with his own totals underneath in red that were many thousands lower than the totals I presented. He then goes into a very lengthy and detailed analysis of the numbers based entirely off of the totals he added in red.

Now of course, anyone on here with a passing knowledge of excel can probably spot what the issue was: he was only looking at the bottom half of my tables and didn't know to scroll up to see the rest of them. It is actually impossible in excel to have a pivot table where the subtotals do not add up to the totals. So now there's a whole mess of analysis out there based on faulty numbers. A simple IM or phone call could've cleared this up very quickly, but instead the approach was to publicly call into question my data, when I am presumably the expert on this stuff.

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Friday, 16 September 2022 16:40 (one year ago) link

If he's a peer and tried to undercut you, would reply with an e-mail screencap tip showing the r/h scroll bar, indicating how much content the file had and where in the range the current view is. Not sure how he added a row of his totals without noticing the header row staying static while underlying data shifted. Freezing header rows is standard in my job. Maybe a helpful URL to your work's Excel training files for extra "ummm..." subtext.

the body of a spider... (scampering alpaca), Friday, 16 September 2022 17:21 (one year ago) link

he seems to have it figured out now. the bigger issue for me is why not first ask me directly about it rather than doing all this work based on faulty assumptions about my job competence that just makes it all more confusing and makes us both look bad.

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Friday, 16 September 2022 17:30 (one year ago) link

Yeah that's fucking ridiculous, nefarious behavior on their part

i eat ass with a knife and fork (Neanderthal), Friday, 16 September 2022 18:58 (one year ago) link

Frustrating but occasionally sending a “you gotta scroll up there, bro” message is the kind of workplace thing you have to convince yourself is entertaining

mh, Friday, 16 September 2022 19:28 (one year ago) link

every time I'm in a chat with the AA who runs the new hire orientation meetings and see her bad-mouthing at 20% of the new hires in the chat behind their backs, I'm tempted to collect them all, and send them to HR as a first edition 300 page novel.

i eat ass with a knife and fork (Neanderthal), Friday, 16 September 2022 19:42 (one year ago) link

xp - that reminds me of a guy I work with who always, ALWAYS assumes bad intent and isn't afraid to blast his baseless conspiracy thinking all over the place and it drives me insane.

Most recent example was a coworker in another department who sent an email with several numbered attachments, one of which was missing. This guy immediately forwards the email to a list of around 25 people, including some fairly senior leaders, to the effect of, "why aren't they sharing all the information? it seems like they have something to hide", of course not copying the original sender.

Not even five minutes after that, the original coworker sends the missing attachment with a, "whoops, just saw I forgot one of the attachments, here you go" email. Of course the guy who sent the accusatory email is now completely silent, no apology, no thank you, just leaving his weird accusation hanging out there.

I know the majority of people I encounter are used to him pulling this shit and kind of roll their eyes, but I'm so annoyed that no one ever calls him out to his face about it (unfortunately I'm well below him on the chain, so I can't really do anything about it either).

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 16 September 2022 19:51 (one year ago) link

they're definitely a 'missing stair', it sounds like. we had one of those, who was toxic, accused everyone of malfeasance and claimed she was the hardest worker on the team and being mistreated, not to mention she said not very veiled racist shit loudly on the floor once. they wanted to let her go for years, yet it took two years before someone finally took the steps. and she was rich, married to a well-off husband, and she routinely bragged about how she didn't need the money, that she did the job for the 'love of customer service' (???), so it wasn't a bit of mercy.

idk if it's because it's just easier to pretend someone annoying doesn't exist, or if people actually are fearful of those who are insistent on creating their own reality/stoking fires, but it seems people like the one you described always seem to do what they do without repercussion.

i eat ass with a knife and fork (Neanderthal), Friday, 16 September 2022 20:10 (one year ago) link

I had one colleague always trying to get me in trouble for shit, like one time she forwarded an email that I deliberately left the director off of because I needed to understand the whole picture before I looped them in, and as a result, I got humiliated on a call by the director who said he "didn't wanna ever see anybody leave him off of important emails again". also tried to rat on me because she didn't like something my direct report did, and then, the final straw was during our Debrief meeting w/ our client, she went into the slide I was responsible for editing and snuck in an edit to my slide without telling me, adding a criticism of my dept in the "areas of opportunity".

i actually blew up and called her out via email and CCed the director about how I was tired of her undercutting me and secretly updating something she wasn't even authorized to touch, and she gave me a phony-baloney apology but I felt a lot better afterwards.

i eat ass with a knife and fork (Neanderthal), Friday, 16 September 2022 20:15 (one year ago) link

(this was 8 years ago)

i eat ass with a knife and fork (Neanderthal), Friday, 16 September 2022 20:15 (one year ago) link

Slowly being driven up the wall by a coworker who insists that she be the main character of our work lives every day. She used to be really friendly and generally easy to get along with, someone with whom others of us could vent shared frustrations. But slowly, over the last year or so, it's become her show and there just isn't room for anyone else.

Every slight, frustration, irritant, whatever she puts right out on us. If we aren't in the same room with her, it will be a wall of texts to our three person group chat about how irritated and upset she is. If we are near, she'll come over to our desks and unload it all. And I'm not judging, I absolutely 100% get the need to vent to the coworkers suffering similar annoyances and irritants. But it's a one-way street with her, once she unloads it, she shuts off and ignores anything we share that doesn't include her.

I've kind of been sensing this for a few months now, but over the last few weeks it has really been crystallized for me and the one other coworker (I'll call C) that used to really like her.

Last week, Tuesday, she sent both C and I dozens of frustrated texts about how she was left out of a meeting, about how she feels disrespected, about being ignored, etc. I get it, both myself and C did our best to commiserate and be a sounding board. Thursday C got a really nasty email about something that wasn't even her job and texted us to vent. I responded, but nothing from the other coworker. Not a single response all day. The next morning C talked to her in person and asked if she had offended her in some way since she didn't respond. All she said was, "I have no time for your negativity right now, I have a lot on my plate". Which, okay, sometimes we all need boundaries, at least she was clear. But two hours later our boss forgot to include her in a meeting invite, which triggered another avalanche of texts to C and I about how frustrated she was. Given her earlier comments, I wasn't sure how to even respond so I just let it go (as did C, apparently). Half an hour later she texts us, "did you guys not read my texts? I'm really frustrated and I feel like you aren't supporting me".

So, yeah, all judgments aside, clearly not someone I can count on to be a good work friend and, to be perfectly honest, it's worth all the work and minefield navigating that would require. So I've really scaled back on interacting with her about anything that isn't directly work related, but she still came up to me this morning again to vent about something else. I kind of brushed her off about a deadline I have (which had the added benefit of being true!), but I'm trying to figure out how to extricate myself further without being a total dick about it. It's still a small group in our office pod and like it or not, I'm stuck with her 15 feet away from me 30-40 hours a week.

I'm here for you if you want/need to vent about this crazy-making place, but if you are going to shut off when I need the same, sorry, I'm not going to absorb that all for you.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 21 September 2022 19:55 (one year ago) link

(sorry if that didn't make much sense, been slowly composing it between other tasks hence the disjointed nature)

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 21 September 2022 19:58 (one year ago) link

No, that makes perfect sense.

I’ve had the unfortunate issue of similar experience in friendships— a friend who only contacts me when they need something from me, but who completely ignores any communications from me, sometimes even when I give them what they need!! It’s a food thing we’re not in the same city or coast anymore, otherwise a messy friend breakup would have happened years ago.

broccoli rabe thomas (the table is the table), Wednesday, 21 September 2022 21:03 (one year ago) link

It's weird. I really don't need to be her friend and I wouldn't really care if it changed to a cordial work relationship, but I'm trying not to back away in a matter that might backfire. I don't know, work is stressful enough without another minefield I have to try and maneuver everyday.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 21 September 2022 21:08 (one year ago) link

I had a colleague somewhat like that not long ago. I gradually discovered that if I just didn't respond, she would drop it, or more likely move on to someone else.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 21 September 2022 21:11 (one year ago) link

as exhibit a for why I'm leaving (as mentioned in the Working from Home thread yesterday), these are grown adults I am referring to
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every time we have a new class, I have to basically Sherlock Holmes who the managers are, because the list is always inaccurate. they're also supposed to tell the new hires upon hire who their manager is (not me).

so this last bunch of classes, we were given a list, and we invited their managers to their touchbases with their learners, only to be told "wtf, I'm not this person's manager". and all of the new hires said they had no clue who their manager was, so I had to figure it out, even though that's not my job.

I was told the alignments were changed due to a crazy amount of people who didn't show, and given a final list. I shared it, only to be told five minutes later that one of the new hires reached out to their manager and was told that person wasn't their manager and didn't know who was. so I reached out to my contact who said "oh yeah, we made another change, here you go".

This roster was missing 15 people from it altogether, and she deleted all records of the old ones. so I asked, exasperatedly, can someone give me a goddamn accurate roster. I'm given one, and I send out AGAIN to my trainers, and within FIVE MINUTES of having sent it, am told one of the listings is wrong again.

At this point I flipped out, brought everybody into a chat room, and said "I'm leading a goddamn training right now, and every time I send a list of managers that I am assured is correct, five minutes later I'm told it is wrong by someone else. Can you all get together and figure this out?", and I disappeared for an hour and made them fix it.

2 hours later, they are again arguing that the new list they spent hours coming up with is wrong.

I then told my boss that I am leaving this job and posting for another position in another dept tomorrow, promptly after.

i eat ass with a knife and fork (Neanderthal), Thursday, 22 September 2022 20:00 (one year ago) link

on a staff call and dying inside as a co-worker reminds us for the millionth time of how he once accidentally pronounced Deutsche Bank as douche bank. It was embarrassing enough when it actually happened, but why tf do we need to be reminded over and over.

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Thursday, 29 September 2022 16:12 (one year ago) link

the "funny story" that wasn't funny the first time.

stank viola (Neanderthal), Thursday, 29 September 2022 16:27 (one year ago) link

at least he didn't accidentally transfer a customer to a sex line, like I did in my first three months at this company back in 04

stank viola (Neanderthal), Thursday, 29 September 2022 16:27 (one year ago) link

*co-worker walks in the door with a wet, hacking cough, continues to cough for the next six hours*

me: "Do you need a mask? I have a few extra here."

co-worker: "It's not COVID, I've been testing. What the hell do I need a mask for?"

*endless internal screaming*

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 4 October 2022 22:16 (one year ago) link

I rarely do--complain about co-workers...For the 20 years I was full-time, virtually ever T.A./E.A. I ever worked with was fantastic. I loved having an E.A. in the room; above and beyond their help with whatever student they were responsible for, it was just great having another adult around. These classes were always calmer than classes without an E.A.

Now that I'm back to supply, most E.A.s are still great, but occasionally you run into one who's weirdly territorial. It's like they resent you being there--like with the classroom teacher away, the class should have been handed to them.

Had two in the same room a few days ago. All day long, it was like they were watching my every move, looking for something to pounce on. First they seemed alarmed that I was using the class computer for a personal e-mail. "You're on lunch right now...there are computers in the staff room." Using the classroom computer is perfectly OK in every class I've ever been in; it's just taken for granted you will use that computer. Later, after I opened a gate at another teacher's request and her student started to walk towards the open gate: "That's why we keep the gate closed." (Me: "But she asked me to open it...") At the end of the day, when the other one took the walkers and left me with the bus students, she suddenly popped back and noticed this one boy--a bit of a challenge--was walking a few feet behind me but accompanied by another student (these are kindergarten kids): "Mr. D--be careful of Joey!!!" I knew exactly where he was.

Today I took a half-day job for the same class, then 15 minutes later I get an automated call saying the job's been cancelled. Could be some other reason--I am susceptible to paranoia at times--but I swear that one or both complained to the homeroom teacher, and that led to the cancellation. God, those two need to lighten up.

clemenza, Thursday, 6 October 2022 01:50 (one year ago) link

stuff's better, haven't found anything I'm qualified for yet internally but still looking. until then, I am amused by this bit of cluelessness from our leaders.
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apparently a representative fucked up really badly and it lead to legal issues. leaders, looking for a fall guy, went to my boss's boss demanding to know what we teach in our compliance courses (so I'm guessing it had to do with data privacy issues).

Compliance courses are online courses everybody is required to take upon hire, then annually after that. Everybody gets the same courses. They're not designed by us, THEY'RE DESIGNED BY LEGAL!!!! Our only role is that we give new hires time to work on them.

like idk why don't you look at your own modules, dummies.

stank viola (Neanderthal), Thursday, 6 October 2022 19:46 (one year ago) link

(literally any time a newb does anything wrong, they always try to blame us)

stank viola (Neanderthal), Thursday, 6 October 2022 19:48 (one year ago) link

specifically glaring daggers at the coworker who has been sitting six feet away from me in a three hour meeting today who has been chomping gum, open mouthed, to the point that i'm having trouble hearing the presenter

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 12 October 2022 16:38 (one year ago) link

You know what they did in Chicago

stank viola (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 12 October 2022 17:13 (one year ago) link

someone shared one of their co-workers got in trouble for basically disappearing today, and when asked why they didn't finish assignments, she claimed her laptop was 'losing power'. no, not that the laptop was suddenly powering off, but that it was losing power (as it does when you don't plug it into the ac adapter) and as a result, it was performing much more slowly, so she couldn't complete the assignments.

o....k.

stank viola (Neanderthal), Thursday, 13 October 2022 19:26 (one year ago) link

We have one empty office and one small workroom that were set up specifically for people to use for Zoom calls/meetings to keep as many as possible out of the open office area. Of course the loudest voice in the office refuses to use either one and stays at her desk bellowing into her camera all day long.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 27 October 2022 18:19 (one year ago) link

For the record, she self identifies as a "very loud talker". When reminded about the private rooms available her response was, "eh, it's just too much to move my computer in there".

Dear readers, her computer is a Microsoft Surface.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 27 October 2022 18:21 (one year ago) link

now that we're back in the office for at least several days per week there was a form created to request computer hardware things you might be missing

many people requested noise cancelling headsets

mh, Thursday, 27 October 2022 18:22 (one year ago) link

We were told we were all being supplied with noise cancelling headphones in September of 2021, apparently to "ease the transition back to in person work". We're still waiting.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 27 October 2022 18:23 (one year ago) link

over the past week, I totally busted my ass and did a ridiculously huge amount of work, really well, for a former client that still owes my org money. while this client sucks, I was really proud of my work, and it was something no one else had managed to do for years. So, I tell my co-worker about it. And he complains that I went out of my way to help this sucky client, and that I shouldn't have helped them. I explained that part of why I did it was to get them to pay some of what they owe us, part of it is so I can make connections for our org with the attorney representing this client, who could refer us to other good clients, and part of it is to prove that I could do this work. I was bummed out that my coworker didn't at least acknowledge the quality/impressiveness of my work.

sarahell, Saturday, 29 October 2022 16:29 (one year ago) link

I feel like I've gotten better with the work/life balance thing in the past few months though -- in the past, this reaction from my co-worker would have made me furious and/or super depressed, and now I'm just like "kinda bummed out" ...

sarahell, Saturday, 29 October 2022 16:37 (one year ago) link

"Neanderthal, since you didn't complete the assignment by today, I am closing the task. You can re-open if you choose to do later."

"I've literally never seen this assignment until today, and I don't see any instructions."

"You were sent an email with these details on 9/1", ~CCs my managers to try and make me look bad~

~address field clearly shows I was not included on the email~

nice try!

stank viola (Neanderthal), Monday, 31 October 2022 18:26 (one year ago) link

When I send you an email to set up a meeting for tomorrow or the day after to discuss a specific topic, that does not mean I want you to call me immediately to dive into said topic. There's a reason I was setting up a specific time to talk about it!!!

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 2 November 2022 15:29 (one year ago) link

your co-workers are indeed stupid and annoying!

yesterday my co-worker had planned to come over to my house to work on a thing that was supposed to go out by the end of day. It has helped before, and this isn't the annoying part.

He was going to arrive around 11am. Between 11 and 1pm he not only did not arrive, but didn't respond to calls or texts. It turns out he was putting a tarp on his roof because it had started raining and he was concerned about leaks. Then, he spent another hour doing household chores, including installing plastic shelf guards in his fridge. Then he takes calls and sets up a meeting about a different project. Then he spends about 30 minutes looking at pictures of houses for sale that his wife sent because his parents are moving up here to spend more time with the grandchild. ... Then he works on the thing for about 30 minutes. Then he goes to the store and gets snacks ... and now I have a much better understanding of why he regularly is doing time sensitive work at 2am.

sarahell, Wednesday, 2 November 2022 16:26 (one year ago) link

Legal nixed a long-standing web cam requirement in training because "without allowing exceptions and rigidly requiring this, we could get into trouble", so the requirement became a 'suggestion'.

which annoyed me because we never enforced it rigidly, if someone came to us and said "I went to the dentist and my face looks like a BlowPop, can I turn the camera off", we always said "yes", and it stands to reason that , like other processes, if you add governance to it/exceptions allowing people to opt out, it could perhaps work.

maybe not - I'm not a lawyer, but they didn't even TRY to have the discussion. the web cams are often helpful to the training as it creates more of a connection between the trainer and trainees. and people dont' turn them on if they aren't required to.

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Thursday, 3 November 2022 16:49 (one year ago) link

and LOL, my inquiry revealed that this change wasn't even communicated to our recruiters, and that this change was mishandled across the board by leaders.

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Thursday, 3 November 2022 16:50 (one year ago) link

wow, learning just how many ilxors actually work for twitter now!

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 3 November 2022 16:56 (one year ago) link

lmao.

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Thursday, 3 November 2022 16:56 (one year ago) link

guys my manager is such a child. she's wfh and pouting all week because about 60% of our team gave really negative responses to a "culture survey" recently and i think she got a talking-to about it. no skin off my teeth as i don't have to hear from her or see her in the office!

i have a long story involving the most absurd passive aggressive backdoor-communication style tactic she tried last week. after that went down she couldn't even broach the subject in our face-to-face weekly meeting. she seems to be scared of me - as she should be! that's right you tiny p.o.s. don't even try fucking with me i'll win every time.

ꙮ (map), Thursday, 3 November 2022 17:03 (one year ago) link

I would love the chance to fill out a "culture survey" here, practically salivating at the thought - even if I know it would be immediately binned when the managers saw the feedback.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 3 November 2022 17:14 (one year ago) link

i'm really lucky in some ways, there is literally only one bad apple with maybe two sycophants and the rest are good people who have to step around her and are getting increasingly frustrated about it. makes it much easier and less stressful to stand up to her.

ꙮ (map), Thursday, 3 November 2022 17:17 (one year ago) link

The dumb thing about reacting poorly to surveys is that:

a) it's usually something you were told about by someone prior and refused to fix

b) businesses seem to view growth from feedback as this amazing magic trick, like if you're the rare person who takes it to heart and says "I will fix these things and be an open door", you can parlay that into amazing respect from leaders, paradoxically moreso than if you just hadn't been shit all along.

Continuing to publicly whinge about it and how bad it makes you feel personally, makes you a high risk employee that execs want to show the door.

I worked w someone similar to yr boss in 2010 and she was basically asked to leave because we had serious concerns with her project management and all she did was try and catch us doing something wrong and get us in trouble via retaliation rather than make the much easier effort of just not being so terrible. Like an improvement to mediocrity and people would have sang her praises.

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Thursday, 3 November 2022 17:25 (one year ago) link

businesses seem to view growth from feedback as this amazing magic trick, like if you're the rare person who takes it to heart and says "I will fix these things and be an open door", you can parlay that into amazing respect from leaders, paradoxically moreso than if you just hadn't been shit all along.

non-profits have this mindset as well! As do couples therapists! ... a system like that is more likely to provoke a defensive response, if not a doubling down, (if the feedback is negative), except for in the "rare" case you mentioned.

sarahell, Thursday, 3 November 2022 17:35 (one year ago) link

So that last sentence pretty much describes exactly where we are now, but there is absolutely no hope of that changing anytime soon.

I am almost 100% certain that if upper management saw how this guy actually conducts business and treats his staff they would be utterly horrified, but complaints to HR have vanished and attempts to bring these to light up the chain have been stymied at every turn. The most frustrating is that a couple of us have asked, together and separately, his supervisor to meet with us to hear our concerns, but that request immediately gets forwarded to BAD MANAGER and they get asked to attend. Like, no! We need to talk about him, not with him.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 3 November 2022 17:36 (one year ago) link

that's just poor managing in itself, no different than forwarding something you shared about a manager to said manager. but most people who are managers don't know how.

one of my besties has been with our company almost as long as me (I met him in our office!) and one day he got mildly frustrated about something and he comes to me saying "man I gotta work on my attitude, boss got upset for how I flew off the handle today" and he shares teh chat and his comments were really benign, mild frustration and asking for help, and his boss's responses were "why are you like this today?", "STOP.", "ENOUGH.", and lecturing him "I thought we discussed this a few weeks ago and you weren't going to be like this anymore, what's going on w/ you?", and I told my friend "you know your manager is the one that's wrong here and not you, right?"

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Thursday, 3 November 2022 18:01 (one year ago) link

the thing that frustrates me about feedback is that I used to be better at taking it and adapting, like I had no qualms whatsoever about listening and improving, but once certain people began weaponizing feedback as a way to control my behavior in my old job (some of it purely made up), it created in me a defensive wall that I haven't been able to break down completely, even though nobody is doing that to me anymore.

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Thursday, 3 November 2022 18:02 (one year ago) link

You know I’m trying to help you here. I think you could probably just make the phone call yourself and avoid me sending emails back and forth up down and around trying to figure out what to do.

lets hear some blues on those synths (brimstead), Thursday, 3 November 2022 20:36 (one year ago) link

You know I’m trying to help you here.

I'm starting to genuinely believe that, no, people probably indeed do not know when others are trying to help them. They think flailing around like toddlers and making everything infinitely more complicated is THE WAY TO WORK.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 3 November 2022 20:38 (one year ago) link

No you know what, honestly, I’m happy to help you, I know you have a ton on your plate already without having to deal with this, sorry for negging you in the ether, my bad <3

lets hear some blues on those synths (brimstead), Thursday, 3 November 2022 20:46 (one year ago) link

lol and after all that “you’re not authorized,
fill out this form”, do y’all really want to get this stuff moved or do you just like watching me dance?

lets hear some blues on those synths (brimstead), Thursday, 3 November 2022 21:39 (one year ago) link

certain people began weaponizing feedback as a way to control my behavior

In those situations, okay, at least one, where that happened to me, I just quit. Like, there was no way I was going to "win" so I quit before they could combine actual incidents where I was "at fault" with made up or exceptionally vague "feedback" and throw it at me with the expectation I would try and refute their claims, item by item. But what was clear, is that they had a problem with me. ... I later was hired back as a consultant (this happened at two different places).

The more I think about these jobs, the better I feel about being partly self-employed. Some of these businesses/organizations have structures that make people toxic ...

sarahell, Friday, 4 November 2022 15:47 (one year ago) link

I was going to therapy at the time and it helped me fight back. I defended myself and went into DNGAF mode, mouthing off to everyone who tried to fuck with me. I quickly learned that nothing would happen to me for doing it and there are about five people now who refuse to talk to me anymore.

Good, I hated them. But I had to change positions as all that negative energy was exhausting

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Friday, 4 November 2022 16:07 (one year ago) link

lol – my biggest client is a place i (sort of) rage quit many years ago. one of the humans responsible for my getting fed up is my main contact now and i do savour the opportunity to flip the script on her overly rigid behaviour (when required) now that I'm a contractor.

xpost

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 4 November 2022 16:07 (one year ago) link

i do savour the opportunity to flip the script on her overly rigid behaviour (when required) now that I'm a contractor.

oh yes, congratulations!

sarahell, Friday, 4 November 2022 17:05 (one year ago) link

I have an employee, Z., who is becoming more and more negative and it's dragging me down. When we hired for their position we were asked to put forth two candidates. Z was not the committee's pick, but my manager overrode the committee and picked Z. I had concerns--this employee's personality doesn't fit with the job, it's a job for an outgoing person and they are not that. They're becoming more and more hostile, despite my best efforts.

I have listened to their feedback when they told me I was being condescending, I took a moment, stated that while it was not my intention to be that way, I understand that THEY felt that way and apologized for it. Then I asked for ways to deliver feedback in neutral, safe ways for them so they could be accountable for things but not feel bad/negative. Yes I address things neutrally, i.e. "When this happens" vs. "When you do."

I never got any follow up on that ask, and I asked a few times for ideas. I try to speak neutrally, but Z is a super sensitive person.

The place where we work has both open to the public spaces (we're in academia) and private work areas as well. Students, too. Last week I asked Z to remind a faculty member of our area's policy for common work areas--this faculty member has been holding class in our area (not in their assigned classroom) for the entire semester. It can be disruptive to the people who work in my area and to other students. Z agreed. . . when I went to them to ask for follow up, they went from 0 to 100 in a few seconds, yelling at me, interrupting me, and stepping toward me with their finger in my face.

I walked away and said we'd discuss later.

I probably should have handled the interaction w/the faculty member myself in retrospect.

A few days later we all met with HR to discuss. HR advised me to apologize which I did and then we could move forward. Z does not agree with the work area policy, but said they would continue to enforce it. But no apology for the yelling and no accountability. HR left after we smoothed things over and as we began to discuss the policy, Z got more and more mad. I just listened. . . . as best I could.

I *might* try and talk with Z at a standing and try to look for better ways to communicate, but it's such a negative work environment. It's just really hard!

a (waterface), Friday, 11 November 2022 16:25 (one year ago) link

Wait, you apologized when Z yelled at you and wagged their finger at you in public? That’s unacceptable, afaic Z should be canned.

poppin' debussy (the table is the table), Saturday, 12 November 2022 00:26 (one year ago) link

Like, did the meeting with HR happen because Z requested it or because you did? Even if you were in the wrong, which hey could be true, there’s no reason for any co-worker to yell at and berate another coworker in a public space at work.

poppin' debussy (the table is the table), Saturday, 12 November 2022 00:28 (one year ago) link

Yeah, honestly the appropriate response is "If you ever point that finger at me again, I'm gonna snap it off and you're gonna fuckin' eat it."

but also fuck you (unperson), Saturday, 12 November 2022 00:28 (one year ago) link

Ya that’s “coworker is making me feel unsafe” level of aggression.

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 12 November 2022 00:48 (one year ago) link

I try to speak neutrally, but Z is a super sensitive person.

Is Z a cis white dude or are there potential "privilege" factors at play in their sensitivity and/or interpretation of your feedback as being condescending?

Not that that gives them carte blanche to go off on you for any perceived slight ... just trying to get a better sense of the situation

sarahell, Sunday, 13 November 2022 17:56 (one year ago) link

I should probably ask if this person is "neurodivergent" as well

sarahell, Sunday, 13 November 2022 17:57 (one year ago) link

Is Z a cis white dude

No, a white woman--possibly neurodivergent, but hasn't disclosed or asked for accommodations. Z requested the meeting, I added HR to the meeting. I believe there will be further discussion/next steps on this, and I feel ok about that. HR took lots of notes. I did just want to vent about it a little because it was so fucked.

I apologized b/c HR said it would be the best next step. I asked them to do something they didn't feel comfortable doing--part of the future follow up is when that happens again, Z needs to let me know *in the moment* they are not comfortable.

Thanks y'all for listening.

a (waterface), Monday, 14 November 2022 18:54 (one year ago) link

When I say possibly neurodivergent--I don't think it's really likely, mostly just like doesn't understand how to interact with others at work, numerous examples abound

a (waterface), Monday, 14 November 2022 18:57 (one year ago) link

there could def. be potential areas of privilege on my end, but I have asked for ways to communicate better that would better suit this person and that hasn't happened, and I don't think anything excuses getting yelled at/berated like that

a (waterface), Monday, 14 November 2022 18:59 (one year ago) link

I guess the way I see it (and what I was getting at with my questions) is:

A. You have a shitty work situation with this coworker and something should be done to make it less shitty
B. These factors may play a role in making it shitty, and may also affect how you can get things to be less shitty

sarahell, Monday, 14 November 2022 19:41 (one year ago) link

Thanks and yeah I agree on A and B. There are def factors going on here way out of my control

a (waterface), Monday, 14 November 2022 19:49 (one year ago) link

To: All
Subject: Dogs ROCK!, so do cats different ways

ꙮ (map), Monday, 28 November 2022 18:07 (one year ago) link

hear them out

more crankable (sic), Monday, 28 November 2022 18:57 (one year ago) link

tbh i appreciated that subject line

ꙮ (map), Monday, 28 November 2022 18:58 (one year ago) link

he's a fan of dogs, but does not want to alienate cat owners. though the body of the email shows it was just a token gesture.

Always been fascinated with the dog-human evolutionary partnership past and present:

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/dog-evolution-60-minutes-2022-11-27/

https://www.cbsnews.com/video/dog-cancer-trials-comparative-oncology-60-minutes-video-2022-11-27/

ꙮ (map), Monday, 28 November 2022 19:00 (one year ago) link

i was not allowed to take PTO until October, so I had to burn most of my PTO in November/this week. I have to teach a class next week and needed to send invites, so I did what I always do - logged in for 5 minutes to send the invites and pop back off.

instead, it took over an hour because a bunch of assholes in Operations decided to enroll 50+ extra people in a class that was originally 10, which forced my teammates to scramble and find 3-4 other teachers and split the class in three.

Then they continued to make changes in the days after this, and rosters were sent through multiple emails and the official roster, and none of them matched at all.

I finally figured out that the official roster was mostly correct but that someone in Ops this morning requested to remove six of the people and nobody had seen it or made updates. I (quite rudely, admittedly) fixed the invites and sent them and ended by saying "btw, this is VERY CONFUSING" and making it a point of how I had to work far beyond what I had planned during my PTO due to the lack of clarity.

amazes me how dim-witted some of our higher paid employees are.

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Friday, 2 December 2022 20:53 (one year ago) link

has it occurred to any of them that they might do better on retention if the onboarding process were not constantly fucking everyone involved in it

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Friday, 2 December 2022 22:18 (one year ago) link

lol - i gave up shouting at them about that the sixth time they jedi-handwaved it away as "things that happen".

meanwhile, i have a friend who works at a competitor and she was listing all of her clients and I was like "those....used to be our clients, 5 years ago".

the good news at least is we just hired new people and I'll get to mentor for a bit which is fine and a thing I like doing. we're doubling our headcount for the first time since 2018.

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Friday, 2 December 2022 22:28 (one year ago) link

apparently setting up Out of Office messages is a forgotten art.

One manager decided to take two weeks off, never set up an OOO message, left without telling his reports who to contact in his absence, leaving chaos behind him.

another did set one up, but it refers to people who claim to have no knowledge of why he's referring to them.

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 14 December 2022 21:33 (one year ago) link

facilitator: Accidental Death and Dismemberment isn't like a life insurance, it only pays out if you lose a limb or the loss of a limb.

students: But it says it pays in the event of death.

facilitator: well it's not a life insurance, we'll talk about it in a bit, but it's not like a life insurance.

me: actually it is, you see the word DEATH appears in the title, and it does pay out in the event of death, if the death is due to an accident of some type. whereas other life insurances pay out for any type of death (with a few exclusions).

facilitator: (awkward silence) oh.

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Thursday, 22 December 2022 19:25 (one year ago) link

more an "lol r u serious" moment than anything to be mad about

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Thursday, 22 December 2022 19:26 (one year ago) link

my co-worker is currently practicing more radical acts of vacationing ... dude works really hard so it isn't like he's lazy but ... it's a bit awkward when I have to respond to a client he was supposed to get in touch with that "he's on vacation again" ... and this client has been waiting on my co-worker to complete a project for months.

sarahell, Thursday, 22 December 2022 19:39 (one year ago) link

I ended up euphemistically stating, "I think he is somewhere without cell reception today"

sarahell, Thursday, 22 December 2022 19:40 (one year ago) link

lol the having to lie for co-workers is always fun.

should make the lie embarrassing next time

"hate to tell you this....loads and loads of diarrhea. yeah.....yeah his house is completely sealed as cleaning crews get to work. yeah....possibly contagious. mmhmm."

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Thursday, 22 December 2022 19:49 (one year ago) link

hahahaha

this is a guy who at one point a couple years ago had his work laptop stolen, so he got a rental laptop, which his cat knocked a glass of water over onto, frying parts of it ... and he was too embarrassed/afraid to report this to the laptop rental company ...

sarahell, Friday, 23 December 2022 04:41 (one year ago) link

update: so apparently the co-worker's car broke down while on vacation and they were gone an extra unplanned day while waiting to have it fixed in the idyllic beachfront area where they were vacationing ...

sarahell, Friday, 23 December 2022 17:41 (one year ago) link

Did their phone also break down

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Friday, 23 December 2022 18:03 (one year ago) link

he had no/bad reception, however his wife apparently had much better reception as she posted video of said idyllic beachfront area on Insta ....

sarahell, Friday, 23 December 2022 18:05 (one year ago) link

nothing will top the time several years ago where he had scheduled a meeting with me for later in the week but had forgotten that he was leaving for a two week family vacation in Tuscany the day before our scheduled meeting ...

sarahell, Friday, 23 December 2022 18:07 (one year ago) link

Lol brutal.

I had someone I was supervising on a project go on a winter vacation to Tennessee. This was a habitually negligent employee that never finished assignments on time and eventually was laid off for performance.

The general rule in our dept was "take your PTO and use it, but you better be done with outstanding assignments or have worked out a backup plan with your PM". Nobody ran afoul of this typically so it never really came up... except with her. She insisted she'd finish the assignment in the week leading up, refused my offers to get someone to help, then didn't finish.

They again refused my offer to bring someone into help, offered to work during the last few days of vacation to finish.

They apparently forgot about the snowy winters in TN, were driving there and back, and lost two days of travel due to a snowstorm, only getting home day before training began. Didn't do any work.

I wound up doing it all. A year later, I asked to leave the project manager role lol

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Friday, 23 December 2022 18:23 (one year ago) link

Lol brutal.

I had someone I was supervising on a project go on a winter vacation to Tennessee. This was a habitually negligent employee that never finished assignments on time and eventually was laid off for performance.

The general rule in our dept was "take your PTO and use it, but you better be done with outstanding assignments or have worked out a backup plan with your PM". Nobody ran afoul of this typically so it never really came up... except with her. She insisted she'd finish the assignment in the week leading up, refused my offers to get someone to help, then didn't finish.

They again refused my offer to bring someone into help, offered to work during the last few days of vacation to finish.

They apparently forgot about the snowy winters in TN, were driving there and back, and lost two days of travel due to a snowstorm, only getting home day before training began. Didn't do any work.

I wound up doing it all. A year later, I asked to leave the project manager role lol

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Friday, 23 December 2022 18:23 (one year ago) link

Oops soz for dub post

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Friday, 23 December 2022 18:23 (one year ago) link

it was appropriate in context lol

sarahell, Friday, 23 December 2022 18:26 (one year ago) link

HR tried to ask us today if we could catch up a learner who misses a lot of material by recording the training session on MS Teams. besides the practical reasons this wouldn't work, they apparently aren't familiar with wiretap/eavesdropping laws, which would require us to get permission from all learners in 2-party states before recording.

while technically we record other meetings, we do disclose it, and it's easier to get away with because a) often times the people in recorded meetings aren't doing any talking themselves, b) the meetings are short, and c) if they don't want to be recorded, they're allowed to just leave, no harm no foul.

a new hire cannot voluntarily leave training, and are going to be doing a LOT of talking, and might view it as creepy surveillance. if they don't agree to being recorded, we'd have to stop abruptly.

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Friday, 23 December 2022 21:21 (one year ago) link

so one of our new hires was struggling in class and we put them on a 3-day improvement plan, and the TM has transparently tried to interfere in the process, trying to pressure the instructors to fail her on the plan since Day 1 (which would end her employment).

she wound up passing, and he is refusing to budge. I am in process of determining whether I go to HR to complain about his interference. As it stands, if we did fail her now and she complained to HR, I am 100% sure they would side with her, noting in the email trail that it seemed the TM was pushing for a result before it even began.

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Thursday, 29 December 2022 19:17 (one year ago) link

and this is after I explained this to him multiple times over three days. at this point just to spite him I would have passed her even if she showed up to the session and took a shit on camera.

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Thursday, 29 December 2022 19:19 (one year ago) link

does the shitting relate to her job duties? I mean, if someone takes a shit on camera and there is no one there to watch it?

sarahell, Friday, 30 December 2022 17:45 (one year ago) link

Goddamn, please just quit. Please. You are miserable here, I get it. But please stop subjecting the rest of us to the constant complaints and bitching, the negativity you radiate is soul destroying.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 11 January 2023 18:43 (one year ago) link

Thought you were referring to an ilx poster, which would’ve been reasonable

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Wednesday, 11 January 2023 19:31 (one year ago) link

Ha, no. Just a co-worker that is driving me particularly nuts today. I've been out of the office for about three weeks dealing with a series of family emergencies so, admittedly, my priorities and what is actually important have shifted, but her constant bitching and complaining about everything are soul-draining today. Sure, there are valid frustrations worth venting about, but she actively seeks out new things to be miserable about and absolutely insists on rubbing those miserable things in other peoples' faces.

I mean, not to belabor the point, but this is just a small sample of quote from her during just the three hours I've been in the office with her:

"I hate his fucking face, retire already dude"
"Don't fucking call me, I sent you an email"
"Oh my god, I can't believe they gave (random person x) this new title, that's absolute bullshit"
"Oh and look, (random person y) got a promotion, what an absolute slap in the fucking face"
"Just seeing his car makes me so angry"
"I've only cried about this place three times this week"

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 11 January 2023 19:58 (one year ago) link

"I order you to be quiet!"

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 11 January 2023 19:59 (one year ago) link

see as much as I ever griped about my own company, out loud outbursts are something I'd consider out of bounds when I was in an office. nobody wants to hear my internal monologue and being on the receiving end of it is massively aggravating. if ya gotta vent, find a vent buddy and do so electronically, and make sure you listen to them vent too (like me and my boss's boss).

like i'd be tempted to tell that woman "this isn't your private suite here, other people can hear you". we used to have one who would loudly berate her kid on the phone and bang her fist on the desk aggressively. and another one who'd go on loud rants until his boss came over to him and said "I'm tired of having people complain to me about you - do you hear yourself?"

fentanyl young (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 11 January 2023 20:22 (one year ago) link

*about you to me!

fentanyl young (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 11 January 2023 20:22 (one year ago) link

Oh she knows very well that other people can hear her, these aren't outbursts, she specifically walks over to other people to share these thoughts. Headphones are no deterrent, she wants the audience and if you don't at least acknowledge her complaint of the minute, she'll keep throwing more at you until you engage to her satisfaction. It's exhausting.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 11 January 2023 20:31 (one year ago) link

You can't tell her to leave you alone?

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 11 January 2023 20:33 (one year ago) link

xpost - lol, as I was typing that last one she walked back over to complain about some email she got. One would think after my tenth straight noncommittal grunt in response, she'd get a hint, but nope. As another coworker, he days are filled with reminding us that she's the main character around here.

As professionally and non-confrontationally as I can, yes. Multiple times. It doesn't phase her.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 11 January 2023 20:34 (one year ago) link

"another coworker says, her days"

Anyway, she's always been like this. I don't know if it's just gotten worse while I was away from the office, or I'm just much more sensitive to it after the personal challenges I've had, but good lord it's just a neverending stream. I think the problem is that the two other people in the office she does this to openly encourage her bitching.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 11 January 2023 20:38 (one year ago) link

Seems like someone should fire her tbqh

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Wednesday, 11 January 2023 20:41 (one year ago) link

If only. She's been threatening to quit since I started four years ago, but sadly absolutely zero follow-through on that. She's very good at holding her complaints in when anyone with any power whatsoever is within earshot.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 11 January 2023 20:45 (one year ago) link

she may be annoying, but she's not stupid

maf you one two (maffew12), Wednesday, 11 January 2023 20:54 (one year ago) link

I would be strongly tempted to tell her exactly what Jon posted.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 11 January 2023 20:54 (one year ago) link

my company fired someone toxic like this back in 2006. she was about 65 years old, claimed to everyone she was married to a 'rich' husband, didn't 'need' this job but wanted it because she liked helping customers (despite complaining about every one of them), would claim to not be racist and use phrases like "towelhead", also shared someone's confidential HIV diagnosis with another colleague without his permission.

it still took two years to get rid of her due to our HR always wanting to 'give another chance'.

jon have you considered playing grindcore really loudly so that it bleeds out of your headphones and she can hear it? and then point at your headphones and shrug every time she comes over?

lol that wouldn't work but it'd be fun trolling.

fentanyl young (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 11 January 2023 21:41 (one year ago) link

lol, I was actually listening to Cattle Decapitation earlier when she came over.

I mean, I've literally picked up my earbuds and put them back in my ears while she's talking at me, I think I'll have to be even more direct.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 11 January 2023 21:47 (one year ago) link

time to bring in an airhorn

fentanyl young (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 11 January 2023 21:53 (one year ago) link

Remind me again, jvc, do you have an HR dependent at your work? I would absolutely talk with them about this if so, though I think you probably have exhausted this avenue already.

Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Wednesday, 11 January 2023 22:11 (one year ago) link

I have not formally pursued that path yet, no. Our HR process is extremely formal and distant, and I've heard a few horror stories about how they've handed some complaints in the past.

I think I need to document some specific ways she's impacting my work, otherwise I feel like my complaints might be dismissed as churlish whining.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 11 January 2023 22:46 (one year ago) link

Maybe you can just tell her "you're too blessed to be stressed" and then discuss the bowel movements of a member of your family? Idk ... like, this seems like something that can be resolved with direct communication. Just tell her straight up that you know this job is frustrating but you're trying to get through the day and hearing her complain makes it worse for you, and you have other serious personal shit going on and you don't have the capacity to listen to her while you're at work. Straight up.

sarahell, Thursday, 12 January 2023 00:18 (one year ago) link

The problem there is that then it becomes about whether jvc says something that she could find objectionable and complain about— not that you would, jvc, but I think that your strategy is a better response. sarahell’s is much funnier, admittedly lol

Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Thursday, 12 January 2023 01:34 (one year ago) link

"If you don't tell me about your husband's bowels, we. Have. A. Problem."

fentanyl young (Neanderthal), Thursday, 12 January 2023 01:40 (one year ago) link

I am going to preface from here on out, any post I make itt is just sardonic eye-rolly stuff, not a reflection of active rage.

they asked me to review some powerpoints that were being created for training. I was supposed to have them 1/3, I got them yesterday, and was asked to do them by EOB today.

I opened them and almost howled laughing at how bad they are. too much text on slides, paragraphs on bullet points, inconsistency in presentation.

When it was evident I can't fix this mess without doing it myself, I deleted my initial feedback ("delete these files, please take the following course on Powerpoint development, then do these over"), and just gave them a list of the most actionable stuff and sent it to them. it's still gonna be a turd but w/e, I get credit for polishing it.

fentanyl young (Neanderthal), Thursday, 12 January 2023 17:50 (one year ago) link

i think i still am naive enough to be surprised that people get paid significant amounts of money to do things they don't know how to do ... as in, presumably these powerpoints were created by people whose jobs it is to create training materials?

sarahell, Thursday, 12 January 2023 17:58 (one year ago) link

they're hired to be training specialists, but I sincerely doubt any of them know Powerpoint very well. it's not really emphasized. I happened to know it pretty well coming in, but people know just enough to know how to put dots on a page and that's it.

when I started here in 2004, on Day 1, we were tasked with creating a Powerpoint in groups and present it to one of the area leaders, and I took over because one of my partners was telling people to write the Ppt in paragraph form and clearly had no idea what she was doing, and I was like "uhh no, my reputation is at stake here". lol.

fentanyl young (Neanderthal), Thursday, 12 January 2023 18:02 (one year ago) link

like, I do a fair amount of work for/with nonprofits that are largely volunteer run ... and this is the type of thing I will see/deal with there. Like the volunteer who is de facto in charge of marketing/outreach who sent out a mailchimp newsletter asking people to contribute to the org's Godfundme campaign

sarahell, Thursday, 12 January 2023 18:03 (one year ago) link

convo between me and a co-worker, who I will call Gweezybork

Gweezybork: Neanderthal, learner can't get into our call interaction program, she's tried, she's opened a ticket with IT, nothing happens when she clicks logon button.

Neanderthal: guarantee you she's not connected to VPN, that's literally the cause 999 out of 1000 times

Gweezybork: now she can't get into this other application as well

Neanderthal: ok, pretty obvious she's not on VPN, that's why she can't get into any application.

Gweezybork: She tried to reinstall the program, that's not working

Neanderthal: It's almost as if SHE'S NOT CONNECTED TO VPN, can you tell her that now that I've asked three times?

Gweezybork: You were right, she was disconnected from VPN.

(this person didn't notice they were disconnected for 3 whole hours)

fentanyl young (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 24 January 2023 17:09 (one year ago) link

same person sends follow up messages about the issue as if the conversation earlier didn't happen, and then doesn't respond to a single follow-up message for two hours (finally had to enter their class and physically say "please see your side chat - now")

fentanyl young (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 24 January 2023 22:17 (one year ago) link

"did the survey email go out yesterday morning? I don't have a copy"

"yes, I'll forward to you"

"thank you, but that is the email from Tuesday morning, I need the one from yesterday morning."

"oh! sent"

"Thank you, but this is from Tuesday afternoon. I need the one from yesterday morning (Wednesday)."

"ok. sent."

"This is the same email you just sent me."

"Neanderthal, calling you"

*ring*

"So to confirm, you need the email from Tuesday, right?"

"NO I NEED THE GODDAMN EMAIL FROM YESTERDAY AM I TAKING CRAZY PILLS?"

I HAVE NO IDEA HOW THE DIAPER GOT LOOSE (Neanderthal), Thursday, 26 January 2023 18:29 (one year ago) link

teacher in my department likes to tell students "i am a college professor"

reality: they participated in guest lectures for a non-credit-bearing online course from an online university that doesn't award degrees

the late great, Thursday, 26 January 2023 18:36 (one year ago) link

Lol damn

I HAVE NO IDEA HOW THE DIAPER GOT LOOSE (Neanderthal), Thursday, 26 January 2023 18:45 (one year ago) link

inveterate self-aggrandizing bullshitters are everywhere in education. and they always fail up

maybe that's also true of college professors and public service jobs in general

actually maybe that's just the human condition, idk

the late great, Thursday, 26 January 2023 18:57 (one year ago) link

inveterate self-aggrandizing bullshitters are everywhere in education. and they always fail up

maybe that's also true of college professors and public service jobs in general

actually maybe that's just the human condition, idk

― the late great, Thursday, January 26, 2023 10:57 AM (four days ago)

human condition imo ... one of my nonprofit clients recently hired a finance manager who claimed they had expertise in all the things ... over the past couple months, this person has issued authoritative statements on various topics that are consistently wrong. Like, factually wrong. This person is being paid twice what I am being paid. This person is also not really doing their job? As in, most of the tasks requiring technical expertise have now become tasks assigned to me. The culture of this nonprofit is very much about the person managing the work actually does a lot of the work themselves, so it is feeling like "not a good fit" ... this is the fourth person they have hired in the past 6 months to do this work. The previous three were even more incompetent.

sarahell, Monday, 30 January 2023 20:52 (one year ago) link

I get the sense that this person is used to working in a more institutional/corporate environment and not for a volunteer run nonprofit that is like Murphy's Law incarnate

sarahell, Monday, 30 January 2023 20:54 (one year ago) link

the dramatic landscape at my workplace is largely shaped by a long simmering antagonism between my manager (breathtakingly incompetent human silo who repels all collaboration) and coworker (hard-working and passionate but maybe a little too attached). i very much side with the coworker but sometimes find it useful to be a little more neutral because it's easier to sidestep / ignore the long-winded email chains etc. the truth is that no one here (gov agency) has very much actual work they have to do, but everyone wants to feel like they are important so this kind of bullshit just naturally emerges i think. i'm realizing that it really doesn't work for me to get ensnared in all of it - sometimes i don't have much of a choice, but often i do, and the choice sometimes feels like a "bad" one - to check out - but it's actually good. it's weird having a job where no one really has to do much but everyone pretends that they do. there's a lot of making stuff up to do that gets praised. funny how just not doing anything, even if you can get away with it, is stressful in its own way.

ꙮ (map), Monday, 30 January 2023 21:14 (one year ago) link

i try and "do 1 thing" at least every day lol, otherwise i feel way too disconnected.

ꙮ (map), Monday, 30 January 2023 21:15 (one year ago) link

that was less about stressful coworkers and more about my bizarre job and possible adhd-related work avoidance.

ꙮ (map), Monday, 30 January 2023 21:17 (one year ago) link

it's weird having a job where no one really has to do much but everyone pretends that they do.

omg this is hilarious but also .... I can see how it can get super toxic.

sarahell, Monday, 30 January 2023 21:23 (one year ago) link

some middle schoolers are watching a nutrition video about eating less carbs and more legumes in my classroom (rainy day PE class) ... the narrator keeps saying "when you eat a nut" and this stupid annoying idiot teacher keeps giggling

oh wait, that stupid annoying idiot teacher is me

the late great, Monday, 30 January 2023 21:50 (one year ago) link

(i know nuts are not technically legumes)

the late great, Monday, 30 January 2023 21:51 (one year ago) link

peanuts are

The Terroir of Tiny Town (WmC), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 03:12 (one year ago) link

if you ask me an hour ago if I have 5 minutes to talk, and I say yes, and you don't respond for an hour, my "yes I'm available" is no longer valid.

I HAVE NO IDEA HOW THE DIAPER GOT LOOSE (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 21:10 (one year ago) link

O. T. MMMMM

kinder, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 22:40 (one year ago) link

So I've spent most of the day trying to herd cats enough to schedule a meeting for next week between two researchers, two outside consultants and my boss. Finally got things nailed down enough between the outside consultants and sent the two researchers a list of seven possible times. At 3:20 I sent out the email with the list of time. 3:25 - Researcher A responds and says they can only do Time Slot B and Time Slot D. 3:36 - Researcher B responds and says they can only do Time Slot D. Great, at least we all overlap on one! 3:40 - sent out the invite to everyone. 3:48 - Researcher B's assistant declines invitation and says, "sorry, Researcher B has now filled up that time slot".

So I am back to square one for the week after next because, of course, Researcher B is the most critical stakeholder to be at this meeting.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 2 February 2023 22:49 (one year ago) link

I don't think these people deserve to have a meeting

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Thursday, 2 February 2023 23:23 (one year ago) link

The double/triple/quadruple time slot meeting bookings at my company are completely out of control.However, I particularly hate meetings more than a half long and they all are but I realized if I’m triple/quadruple booked I don’t have to go to any meetings because everyone just assumes I’m in one of the other meetings. Problem solved.

But who are we doing it versus? (sunny successor), Sunday, 5 February 2023 12:30 (one year ago) link

okay, I think I truly get the thing we were talking about earlier on this thread about the "missing stair" ... I understood it in concept before, but now I have first hand experience with this, and good fucking lord, map (I know you have one at work) I truly empathize. In fact, I think map's "missing stair" co-worker is similar to the new person at one of my client sites ...

this person was hired two months ago as "finance co-ordinator" and I know they exaggerated their qualifications (in terms of what they know how to do), the only question is by how much, at this point. This person is, of course, an independent contractor. And this place isn't used to having paid staff. They are volunteer-run, and no one is full-time, and thus there is next to no oversight/accountability when someone doesn't do what they are supposed to be doing. Because this person was a friend of one of the core volunteers and was familiar with one of the projects this place does, I think everyone trusted that they cared about the place, and they would "fit in" and do the work and not waste time and charge for wasting time.

At this point it's almost comical. I was doing a fairly limited set of financial tasks for them. And now, because either this person doesn't know how to do things, doesn't want to do things because they believe these things are "not their job" or are coming up with excuses to delay doing things ... I am doing the majority of this person's work.

I'm going to stop there ... otherwise I can fill the screen with examples and more venting Neando style <3

sarahell, Monday, 6 February 2023 16:45 (one year ago) link

yikes - yeah it kind of sucks to have to have some of the 'checks and balances' in businesses regarding accountability because often time people who are doing their shit get caught in the crosshairs and it can alienate them. but on the other hand, if you don't have any, it kind of opens up the door for these 'missing stair' folk to come in and essentially not do the majority of their tasks and there aren't any levers to pull to do anything about it. which tbh I understand why that happened when you're volunteer-run and now have paid staff.

so what's the next step - is there someone you can discreetly report it to?

sanguisug boggy bogg (Neanderthal), Monday, 6 February 2023 16:53 (one year ago) link

So a coworker is getting ready for her maternity leave and getting all her ducks in a row, understandably. She's pretty thorough and detail oriented, so of course she'd put a lot of thought into this. What I don't like is learning that, previously unbeknownst to me, she has volunteered me (in meetings that I did not, and would never be expected, to attend!) to take over tasks and attend meetings that are normally her responsibility.

Which isn't to say that I wouldn't help with some of this stuff, but maybe have a conversation with me before you volunteer my time and efforts to people?

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 6 February 2023 17:01 (one year ago) link

that's pretty standard SOP - any time I'm missing a significant length of time I have a meeting with whomever my backups are going to be and talk about tasks they'll be taking on, and I document it in a chart. and that way if there's any disconnect about any of the tasks, like that person doesn't think they should be doing some of them, we can talk it out and come to an agreement.

I'm sure something as life-changing as maternity leave, which is overwhelming, probably had her overlook that step (not that I would know nor could I fairly comprehend). but it is indeed important to talk to people about you expect them to do in their absence before it's communicated broadly. I don't even list people on my OOO messages as backups unless they've given me permission.

sanguisug boggy bogg (Neanderthal), Monday, 6 February 2023 17:06 (one year ago) link

lol jon, and ugh, sorry ... and thank you Neando ... the missing stair recently attempted to assign even more of their work to me, and I had to say, "You know, when I said I could do x,y,z that you are now putting my name next to, that was before we determined that I was also going to be doing a,b,c, and unfortunately, I don't have the capacity to do x,y,z anymore."

sarahell, Monday, 6 February 2023 17:07 (one year ago) link

the other complication with "missing stair" is that previously I had done her job (partly through another org I worked for, as in the client wasn't paying for those hours, the org I work for was subsidizing that labor). I quit last summer. But now I am back in a limited capacity after a bunch of stuff got resolved. ... and she is this client's 4th attempt at replacing me.

sarahell, Monday, 6 February 2023 17:11 (one year ago) link

or rather (sorry for so many posts) my org decided to take a break from working with this client because there were constant conflicts with some new volunteers, who are now gone.

sarahell, Monday, 6 February 2023 17:13 (one year ago) link

good for you enforcing that boundary early. this isn't an 80s sitcom where someone can randomly just dump files on your desk and walk away.

it's funny how there is a sizable group of people (which includes me) that actually hates delegating for a variety of reasons, and there are some people who feel so comfortable with it they forget they're supposed to be keeping some of the work for themselves too.

xxpost lol don't you love when you leave a position and then you still wind up doing it anyway? hoping they're not taking advantage of the fact that you know how to do their job.

sanguisug boggy bogg (Neanderthal), Monday, 6 February 2023 17:14 (one year ago) link

xxpost lol don't you love when you leave a position and then you still wind up doing it anyway?

this is definitely not the first time this has happened to me, lol!

hoping they're not taking advantage of the fact that you know how to do their job.

how would you categorize being condescending and acting like they know more than me?

It reminds me of this anecdote a friend told me. He's a musician in the free improv scene and used to play with this old German musician, Wolfgang Fuchs. And Fuchs would say, "I'm sorry, you can be an asshole or a bad musician, but you cannot be both."

In other words, if this person was nice and appreciative and modest, I would not be as annoyed about doing her work for her.

sarahell, Monday, 6 February 2023 17:26 (one year ago) link

that's even worse. gahhhhhhhhhhh, you have wayyyyyyyy more patience than me w/ someone like that. that's the type of person I used to have to take a walk around the block before msging...and after msging.

has anybody else also reported issues w/ her? or are you the only one who would notice due to working closely alongside.

sanguisug boggy bogg (Neanderthal), Monday, 6 February 2023 17:29 (one year ago) link

well, at least I'm not the only one, that does kinda make things better? ... Basically, all the volunteers in the Finance WG have started a private slack channel for complaining about this person.

sarahell, Monday, 6 February 2023 17:38 (one year ago) link

oh damn. that truly is a missing stair.

it only makes things somewhat better but i was thinking more of a 'coalition that could approach leaders and say 'we need to talk'"

sanguisug boggy bogg (Neanderthal), Monday, 6 February 2023 17:39 (one year ago) link

However, the hiring decision was made by "the board" -- the majority of whom don't really interact with this person, and one of the board members is the friend that proposed that they hire her. so, the board just wants everyone to get along, do the work, and not bring drama to the board.

sarahell, Monday, 6 February 2023 17:41 (one year ago) link

i think the stated goal of the private slack channel is to formulate the approach to the board ... as in, "we need to talk about a, and it's NOT okay, and here's why"

sarahell, Monday, 6 February 2023 17:42 (one year ago) link

that's actually a great idea!

sanguisug boggy bogg (Neanderthal), Monday, 6 February 2023 19:16 (one year ago) link

*remove superfluous 'actually', didn't mean to sound condescending...posted too fast

sanguisug boggy bogg (Neanderthal), Monday, 6 February 2023 19:17 (one year ago) link

yeah, there are some things this org is good at ... they often have very good ideas. They regularly do not follow through on them.

sarahell, Monday, 6 February 2023 19:23 (one year ago) link

so our SSO link to our training website stopped working for us two weeks ago. I started a ticket and all the person working on it has done for two weeks is the following song and dance:

"Are you still having this issue?" (you mean the one I've emailed you about multiple times this week? yeah it didn't resolve overnight on its own)

"Weird, i can't replicate the issue!" (that's it? you're not willing to help figure this out?)

"Can you share what logins/accounts you're using?" (I've done this five times now, including step by step screenshots - the same ones each time)

This is normally the point where I ask for a meeting but this person works overnight hours, so they're usually leaving when I'm arriving - typically we have to work meetings out in advance so I can log on early or they can stay late.

finally today, we did that after days of begging, and this person finally has promised to take it to the appropriate team to investigate. after two weeks!

sanguisug boggy bogg (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 7 February 2023 18:46 (one year ago) link

I really don't want to be that guy, but this coworker crying at her desk three to four times a week is really grating on my nerves.

I kind of wish I didn't know her at all because I would normally assume some very serious personal issues leading to this much public and demonstrative crying, but she also very loudly lets us know that it's "email A" or "email B" (of which I am often also copied on and spend probably more time than is healthy trying to parse out the upsetting part, but never can) that is the trigger. I just... can't. I think she just hates her job and allows it to hit her in a very raw and personal way... I just wish she'd quit for her own mental health, let alone mine and others in our open office who have expressed similar concerns.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 7 February 2023 18:58 (one year ago) link

is this the same one who constantly complains about how awful things are or is this a different miserable coworker?

sarahell, Wednesday, 8 February 2023 16:06 (one year ago) link

Same one.

Cried twice today already.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 8 February 2023 16:10 (one year ago) link

If her manager isn't terrible, is it worth cluing them in? Something's really messed up

mh, Wednesday, 8 February 2023 16:14 (one year ago) link

Her direct supervisor is actually kind of terrible, though he seems to be aware of some of the extent as he's made passing remarks about how she's always upset.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 8 February 2023 16:19 (one year ago) link

it's a tough situation because I've seen multiple instances of people in my own workplace who are upset and share it loudly with those around them, and the motivations were worlds apart. One was an actual 'missing stair' themselves, a very manipulative person who attempted to improve their standing by imagining transgressions (when they were themselves toxic)...and a friend who was often bullied by the toxic alpha-male Executives in a department full of headhunting jackasses who would go crying to her manager if she did one thing they didn't like. one day, she just broke down and couldn't stop.

your situation doesn't immediately sound like either of these, really, though it's hard to tell without knowing more, though I wonder if the direct supervisor being terrible plays into it at all. there are always co-workers who will make things not about them about themselves and loudly grouse, but...there are also those who are experiencing legit, intense distress on the job, sometimes from toxic people, and if the person they report to doesn't take it seriously, they don't feel empowered to do anything other than try and loudly react to it, to get it out of their system, or hope that someone will rescue them.

but it is still disruptive to a workplace environment, for reasons beyond just distraction - my natural reaction to someone crying is to want to comfort them, and not pretend it isn't happening, but if it's happening all of the time, one can't do that without hampering their own ability to get work done, and there's always the fear that the person will then come to you directly with these things and possibly test boundaries, which isn't good for either of you in a work environment.

is there an HR that could be approached? idk how I would feel about doing that without her knowledge, but if there's any hint that the direct supervisor might weaponize what they are told about this employee, I could understand not wanting to go that route.

waiting for a czar to fall (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 8 February 2023 16:32 (one year ago) link

btw by not pretend it isn't happening that was not a jab or dig at you jon, more my expression of how I feel uncomfortable doing nothing when someone is crying next to me. that doesn't mean I think doing something is always the appropriate course of action in all contexts, its just my natural instincts to 'feel' as if I'm doing wrong if I do nothing.

waiting for a czar to fall (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 8 February 2023 16:34 (one year ago) link

Yeah, I wouldn’t get involved. Maybe she has some bad problems in her real life where she can’t show emotions like that (not wanting to alarm kids or whatever) and something small at work just tips her over. Get a good pair of noise canceling headphones, maybe?

But who are we doing it versus? (sunny successor), Wednesday, 8 February 2023 17:03 (one year ago) link

I'm anxiously awaiting tomorrow because a project in which I'm ONLY responsible for the training portion of goes live, and it's equal parts training agents and "training the trainer", the actual team managers who will be responsible for handling any issues post-live. this group has mostly ignored three weeks of exerted pleas from me to spend the time after training re-reviewing materials, asking questions, reviewing job aids, so they can be ready to support.

so I'm spending today being Helicopter Neanderthal, making sure they did all these things that are usually routine, which is frankly something I don't like being on the receiving end of, so I really hate doing.

waiting for a czar to fall (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 8 February 2023 17:52 (one year ago) link

its just my natural instincts to 'feel' as if I'm doing wrong if I do nothing.

same here. though I was in a position a while back where I did intercede and it ended up coming back on me in this totally weird/dysfunctional way.

though, sadly, it is good to know that jon just has one very demonstratively unhappy coworker and not two ... when I thought he might be talking about two different people, I was wondering, "Wtf is wrong with jon's workplace?!!!"

sarahell, Wednesday, 8 February 2023 18:02 (one year ago) link

in my world of annoying coworkers ... the missing stair from last week? ... well, two of the volunteers that are on the team that the missing stair "coordinates" publicly complained about her. My first response was diplomatic ... I too am a paid contractor and I don't want to get involved, but if you want professional evaluation of this person's work (or lack thereof), I can give it. ... but then I went very much in character and made a list of the things that if I were in her role I would be doing, and noted that she was doing hardly anything on these tasks, and in one case, was actively blocking it getting done.

My actual coworker (my colleague that works for the org that I work for that is helping this other org that hired the missing stair) ... did his classic thing where he wrote a lengthy message which addressed most of the same concerns/points I had already made, but didn't acknowledge that I had already said the same thing ... but at least this time he did initially say he hadn't read everyone else's responses before adding his own ... and compared to this org's missing stair, my coworker is incredibly great.

sarahell, Wednesday, 8 February 2023 18:09 (one year ago) link

And I know this isn't the "compliment your actually pretty okay coworkers" thread but ... in the past week, he did actually follow through on the next step for this project that we had gotten a grant for that we hadn't really been doing much work on, and I was lowkey getting anxious about having to report on our progress to the funder ... so things are kinda looking up?

sarahell, Wednesday, 8 February 2023 18:12 (one year ago) link

So it sounds like missing stair may be discovered soon, sounds like the rumblings are increasing.

Hoping that some of it will drift to the board so that when you make your coordinated approach, they already have a whiff.

Lol at replying prior to reading responses, I read emails in reverse order to prevent that.

waiting for a czar to fall (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 8 February 2023 18:18 (one year ago) link

yeah, the volunteers basically expressed their concerns to the board and at least one of the board members has engaged in that conversation and they were discussing the flaws in the hiring process and oversight.

One thing this org is great about is ... finding fault with each other and complaining about it.

sarahell, Wednesday, 8 February 2023 18:35 (one year ago) link

things are less tense than they were last summer when every day there would be a minor difference of opinion that would be called out as a racist microaggression, gaslighting, or white supremacy culture.

sarahell, Wednesday, 8 February 2023 18:38 (one year ago) link

Been a crazy busy day for me, not ignoring the posts, particularly appreciated your thoughtful post Neando. This particularly stuck out for me:

but it is still disruptive to a workplace environment, for reasons beyond just distraction - my natural reaction to someone crying is to want to comfort them, and not pretend it isn't happening, but if it's happening all of the time, one can't do that without hampering their own ability to get work done, and there's always the fear that the person will then come to you directly with these things and possibly test boundaries, which isn't good for either of you in a work environment.

This is the thing, when it first started happening, I would awkwardly try to offer a little sympathy and empathy, but I think that was a mistake, because now she feels comfortable with the latter - if I (and others in our office, tbf) don't acknowledge and ask her what's wrong, she'll wait until the senior leaders are out for a meeting or whatever, then come dump it all on me anyway. It puts me in an awkward position for sure and, considering how often it happens, I really run out of pat things to say. I know I'm not imagining this, another co-worker has explicitly told me that she purposely schedules as many meetings and tasks outside of the office as possible every day, so she can avoid her.

I guess I'm more venting than anything, because I really don't know what to do. sunny's point about headphones is a good one, I typically have my earbuds in when I'm able, but she will straight up just come stand and look at me until I take them out an acknowledge her. I'm kinda cursing my past self for being empathetic enough to open the door like this in the first place. HR probably isn't a good idea because their first response is always to reach out to direct supervisor to follow-up so, effectively, it would be like going to him directly anyway and I really fear how he would punish her for this. Right now I'm just mostly silently hoping she hits a point where she quits.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 8 February 2023 20:12 (one year ago) link

Like a fairly specific example of how tough it is - I just walked back into the office from a meeting and said "hi" as I walked by her desk (she's the only other one in this afternoon) and her word for word response was, "don't worry, you didn't miss anything, I've just been sitting here crying X's latest email". And I hate myself a little for it, but my initial thought is, "oh christ, here we go again, I can't do this".

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 8 February 2023 20:14 (one year ago) link

You could try telling her to quit

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Wednesday, 8 February 2023 20:16 (one year ago) link

“This job seems to make you miserable, you should get a different one”

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Wednesday, 8 February 2023 20:16 (one year ago) link

I've tried a few variations of that over the past few months, usually along the lines of, "I'm not sure this job is worth how miserable it makes you". Not sure how much it lands. Anyway, don't expect an easy solution here, it's just been something I've struggled with and appreciate this venue to vent a little.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 8 February 2023 20:19 (one year ago) link

my boss, who has been told multiple times over three years that any server issue in our GUI system affect ALL training databases as they are all tied to the same core GUI system, and that it requires a work ticket to fix, continues to ask people to change databases to fix the problem, which does nothing but delay the solution.

idk how many times I can tell him. but otoh my performance review looks better each time I correct him.

waiting for a czar to fall (Neanderthal), Thursday, 9 February 2023 16:33 (one year ago) link

it feels a bit pass-agg tbh ... idk ... I am just going to assume you have tried the direct approach and it failed? Or you just don't have the emotional energy to deal.

How to handle the situation really depends on how much you actually like this person. It's okay to not like them. It isn't like she's your wife or kid(s) or best friend. But here are some more suggestions if you care about this person's well-being:

1. "I am sorry things are so shitty for you right now, but during the work day, I really need to focus on getting my shit done, but maybe we can talk about your issues after work some time?" (alternatively, if you have break-times that line up, talk to her then, but only then). ... If she has an outburst or problem while you are working, say a quick "I'm sorry, I can't" and get back to work.

2. "It hurts me to see how horrible this situation is for you, but I don't think I can do anything about it. Can I? Is there something I can do in my position that you think would make things less shitty for you?" -- this is to establish whether she wants you to do something. Also, ideally, it would get her to actually be empowered to come up with concrete ways her job could be improved ... or, come to the conclusion that there isn't anything to be done and she can just quit.

3. Tell her about all the problems you are having in your life outside of work that you are struggling to handle while still being functional on the job to reverse roles and put her in a listener/sympathizer position, as opposed to victim.

sarahell, Thursday, 9 February 2023 20:35 (one year ago) link

^ that was an xp re jon and not Neando's GUI issue

sarahell, Thursday, 9 February 2023 20:35 (one year ago) link

That's good advice, I do generally like her and feel bad that she always seems to be suffering, but I'll be honest, the more I see her dumping her problems on other people in the office while flat out cutting off anyone else who complains, I'm starting to like her less and less. She doesn't seem very receptive to the advice that myself and others have shared, sadly I think I just need to wait her out until she quits or something else changes.

On a lighter note, I believe I broke another coworker's brain this morning when I told her I didn't watch the Super Bowl. Six hours later and she has brought it up no less than four separate times, "I can't believe you don't watch the Super Bowl! what kind of person are you?". The first time I said something vague about not being into football and especially the NFL, but apparently I might as well have told her I absorb nutrients through my eyeballs.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 13 February 2023 20:50 (one year ago) link

I just say “yeah it was a great game” to anyone who doesn’t know me who brings it up. I’m from Philly, and I didn’t watch— I read a weird novel and played guitar instead lmfao

Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Monday, 13 February 2023 20:54 (one year ago) link

Exactly what I should have said, but I was afraid to get pressed on details about specific commercials or plays or whatever. Next year.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 13 February 2023 20:59 (one year ago) link

even worse than the IRS pushing through withholding changes for pension/401k that turned a simple election into a nightmarishly long one that can take 10-15 minutes to discuss...

is the IT team behind our training environment mistakenly thinking this was an optional change that teams could adopt or opt out of, and not coding any of it, so now our training systems have all of the old elections and we can't show them the new way in class.

but mostly fuck the IRS on this one.

waiting for a czar to fall (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 14 February 2023 17:51 (one year ago) link

Less of a specific coworker, but raging about an entire dysfunctional department.

Another coworker is going on maternity leave starting on Friday. This has been known for many months now, been on the calendar, everyone has been aware.

I find out just today, via a tossed off aside in another email, that starting Monday, I will be taking over 50% of her job responsibilities for the three months she is gone. I've had no direct conversation with anyone about this, much less her. I have no idea how this works, what the expectations are, just that suddenly, following that tossed off aside, I have now been added to three(!) weekly meetings that she typically attends.

To be clear, she's not the stupid, annoying coworker in this situation, just the fact that none of the managers or leadership have planned for her absence at. fucking. all. Someone panicked today and realized she wasn't going to be here next week and apparently the path of least resistance was to just, POOF!, make it my problem. My current project load cannot realistically support this, normally I'd loop my boss into this to make him aware of the change in my workload but, darn it, he just left the country for a multi-week trip.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 14 February 2023 22:08 (one year ago) link

Missing Stair got fired last night. ... it was not a pleasant meeting. I had intended to not attend the meeting (I am not obligated to attend every meeting.) just so I could be "professional" and "above the fray" but I was requested to assess the truth of what Missing Stair was saying and whether they were doing work of value, and ... I don't take the same enjoyment in calling someone an incompetent liar "to their face" as I did when I was younger.

sarahell, Friday, 17 February 2023 16:21 (one year ago) link

Basically one of the issues for me was this person was claiming or seriously implying that they were doing work in the accounting system. The accounting system keeps a log of user activity. I have access to this log and this person hadn't logged in in at least a month (unless they had serious hacker chops and could mimic the user login of the Automated System Administration).

sarahell, Friday, 17 February 2023 16:27 (one year ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/YEocCsQ.jpg

calstars, Friday, 17 February 2023 16:30 (one year ago) link

Missing Stair got fired last night. ... it was not a pleasant meeting. I had intended to not attend the meeting (I am not obligated to attend every meeting.) just so I could be "professional" and "above the fray" but I was requested to assess the truth of what Missing Stair was saying and whether they were doing work of value, and ... I don't take the same enjoyment in calling someone an incompetent liar "to their face" as I did when I was younger.

― sarahell, Friday, February 17, 2023 11:21 AM bookmarkflaglink

ugh - I know what you mean. even if something is accurate, it can still feel ugly inside to say these things to another person. i'm much the same way.

I'm happy they made what seems to be the right decision but I know that had to be a tough situation for you. :(

waiting for a czar to fall (Neanderthal), Friday, 17 February 2023 17:29 (one year ago) link

Basically one of the issues for me was this person was claiming or seriously implying that they were doing work in the accounting system. The accounting system keeps a log of user activity. I have access to this log and this person hadn't logged in in at least a month (unless they had serious hacker chops and could mimic the user login of the Automated System Administration).

― sarahell, Friday, February 17, 2023 11:27 AM bookmarkflaglink

I'm so paranoid about every little thing I do being watched that it kinda boggles my mind that there are still employees who don't just blanket assume that everything they do leaves a footprint (or everything they don't do leaves a lack of one).

the "computer made a mistake" defense also never works.

waiting for a czar to fall (Neanderthal), Friday, 17 February 2023 17:34 (one year ago) link

like there are definitely people at my place who have done stupid shit thinking nobody could track it.

Security person told us lots of people used customer data to apply for credit cards and buy shit, falsely believing that since our VPN connected to a server in Illinois, that all computers would appear to be from the same IP and that nobody could track where the illegal purchases were being made from. and acted surprised when they got caught. def a 'lemon juice invisibility' moment.

we also had a very high profile arrest of two agents in my office, as well as a Trust vendor back around 2008-2009, when my company was under another name. they had conspired to steal an old lady's pension, and uh they were pretty easily apprehended (word to the wise - if you're going to steal, perhaps don't use someone who is likely to be the first, most obvious suspect when the money does missing). the two agents were perp-walked out of our Orlando office. it made national news and hurt our reputation a bit.

waiting for a czar to fall (Neanderthal), Friday, 17 February 2023 17:40 (one year ago) link

feel bad for people who do obvious, easy-to-detect fraud…they probably think they're being so clever…

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Friday, 17 February 2023 17:54 (one year ago) link

now I'm suspicious of whether I just sussed out Neando's employer

if so, lol you gotta get out of there

mh, Friday, 17 February 2023 18:37 (one year ago) link

feel bad for people who do obvious, easy-to-detect fraud…they probably think they're being so clever…

― G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Friday, February 17, 2023 9:54 AM (one hour ago)

yeah ... at a place I worked 20 years ago there had been a ring of people who would come in with fake w-2s in order to get tax credits, and they were all from "Ross Stores" but the forger wasn't a very good speller because the w-2 said "Ross Sores"

sarahell, Friday, 17 February 2023 19:00 (one year ago) link

i had a missing stair supervisor once, who effectively did the same thing i did, but just had the lead role with slightly more organizational work. the job involved database shit, and we'd log in and ID our files by name. i worked pretty fast and did a lot of work, but what i eventually noticed was the amount of work i was doing was decreasing retroactively in the system, and i saw that not only was my supervisor not doing that much work, but she was changing work i'd done to be shown as work she'd done. it was really, really tough since she was someone who'd always been nice to me but was over time clearly someone who was dancing on the edge of sanity. i had to take my boss aside and tell him what was up, and insisted that i didn't want her to lose her job over it, but i just didn't want anyone thinking i wasn't doing my fair share. he acknowledged it and all was good for me, but they kept her around. i don't know that she actually did ANY work.

omar little, Friday, 17 February 2023 19:27 (one year ago) link

now I'm suspicious of whether I just sussed out Neando's employer

if so, lol you gotta get out of there

― mh, Friday, February 17, 2023 1:37 PM bookmarkflaglink

haha i knew i left too many breadcrumbs.

waiting for a czar to fall (Neanderthal), Friday, 17 February 2023 19:48 (one year ago) link

lmao at Ross Sores

waiting for a czar to fall (Neanderthal), Friday, 17 February 2023 19:49 (one year ago) link

omar yeah it's hard in those situations to protect yourself as you need to while trying to be sensitive to the other person. esp since we know managers often tend to be 'snip snip' in regards to problems

waiting for a czar to fall (Neanderthal), Friday, 17 February 2023 19:50 (one year ago) link

xxp it's ok, if it's who I'm thinking of, I have a friend trying to get out of IT there and a number of other friends and family who have cycled through. A job's a job

I feel bad for a guy who posted on a friend's preferred messageboard today. He was bitching about my employer, but because he'd been laid off from a contracting job in the corporate IT realm. Because corporate put the contracts out for bid again and this particular guy's employer isn't in the pool that won the contracts.

I have no doubt this is a guy people were complaining about for some reason and a number of his contractor peers were stupid and annoying, but the way contracting and vendors work, many of them never have a chance to be anything but stupid and annoying for anyone who's one of their full-time peers.

mh, Friday, 17 February 2023 20:10 (one year ago) link

i had to take my boss aside and tell him what was up, and insisted that i didn't want her to lose her job over it, but i just didn't want anyone thinking i wasn't doing my fair share. he acknowledged it and all was good for me, but they kept her around. i don't know that she actually did ANY work.

i was kinda at that point with this person last month, but the difference is that this is a small nonprofit where everyone else is a volunteer, so the fact this person was getting paid for not really doing any real work was not sitting well with a few volunteers who do a lot of work and don't get paid, including one who a few months back was basically living out of their vehicle because they couldn't afford rent.

sarahell, Saturday, 18 February 2023 00:06 (one year ago) link

By no means a unique complaint, as I've seen it at every job I've ever held, but it continues to amaze me that "well I didn't answer you because you didn't pester me enough" is a defensible excuse for not responding to things.

Had a meeting this morning with someone that I've been trying to get information out of for about a week now, having sent three emails and left a voicemail. The question gets brought up in the meeting and he immediately got defensive, saying, "hey, if this was so important you should have just kept bothering me until I responded". And one of the other senior management people in the meeting looked at me and said, "yes, you really need to keep at it to get information from busy people".

Like, wtf, three emails and a voicemail in a week is a lot! Every one of them clearly stated that I needed to have the info by the end of last week. Your choice to not respond to me doesn't just suddenly become my fault because it makes you look busier/more important! I've got a lot of things to do to buddy!

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 21 February 2023 16:26 (one year ago) link

I get saying that if you send one solitary email two weeks in advance of deadline and never follow-up on it again and ambush them, but fuck that in your case, you did more than enough

waiting for a czar to fall (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 21 February 2023 16:37 (one year ago) link

xp - ugh, I've been there ... maybe that reasoning would be valid if the "busy person" was someone outside your company/org that you were supposed to motivate to do a thing ... but this is a coworker, you are all on the same team so to speak? You should be working together, right? idk just a crazy thought.

I have also been the busy person though ... and I have definitely felt that defensiveness tbh ... but then I get real with myself/the situation and acknowledge that I was not blameless in this.

sarahell, Tuesday, 21 February 2023 16:47 (one year ago) link

unless jon works for Glengarry Glen Ross ... you are good here.

sarahell, Tuesday, 21 February 2023 16:49 (one year ago) link

lol

Not really worried about it, more just noting that I've seen that excuse fly before.

Yeah, he's a coworker, though not someone I work with on a daily basis. His reaction was whatever, I could tell he realized he forgot and was making a lame excuse, it happens. Wasn't really annoyed at all until the other guy poked at it. What, you want I should camp out in front of his office every morning?

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 21 February 2023 16:50 (one year ago) link

I mean I think we all have a tendency to react defensively by human nature, but i'm pretty quick to say "fuck, I'm sorry, that's on me" if I drop the ball on something

but frankly I don't like to forget to respond, so I flag every email I can't deal with and I go over my flags each day and clear what i can, and if I think I can't gte to something, I say so early.

no matter who you are, you're going to fuck this up and forget to do something or reply to something, but it doesn't have to be a civil case.

I do think in some cases the defensiveness comes from being beat up by other people over menial bullshit, so they carry that baggage into other conversations. I'm still sometimes unnecessarily defensive due to people's toxic bullshit from 8 years ago and haven't been able to get all of it out of my system. so in those cases I try not to reply right away to let that dissipate.

waiting for a czar to fall (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 21 February 2023 16:55 (one year ago) link

Good points all, which is why I wasn't really bothered until the other dude kinda piled on. It happens! Half my job some days is just trying to follow-up with people and keeping them on task, it's easy and totally understandable that things are going to slip through.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 21 February 2023 16:56 (one year ago) link

no matter who you are, you're going to fuck this up and forget to do something or reply to something, but it doesn't have to be a civil case.

this is basically my guiding principle in so many things lol

sarahell, Tuesday, 21 February 2023 17:26 (one year ago) link

this is begging for some malicious compliance hourly emails the next time it happens.

if the dude is just a regular coworker and not a high profile client or the president the "you should have tried harder to make me do my job" thing is total bullshit. it's low level gaslighting and implies that you're not also busy. like your time is some kind of diminished value.

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 21 February 2023 19:55 (one year ago) link

it's babysittery nonsense. if I'm responsible for something and I can't do it without you providing a piece, and I have to keep prodding you for it, it's actually hurting my wellbeing because you're threatening the way my performance is perceived, AND requiring me to stress over it due to having to constantly remind you, AND having to worry if you're going to treat me worse afterwards because I'm "annoying".

waiting for a czar to fall (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 21 February 2023 19:59 (one year ago) link

(so yes you otm lol)

waiting for a czar to fall (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 21 February 2023 19:59 (one year ago) link

like two years ago, when I had deadbeat trainees who would zone out, not participate, etc, I'd just say "alright well, you're fucked and it's of your own choosing", I'd tell their manager about it, let them correct (or not correct) the behavior, and I'd keep on teaching. I would keep trying to involve them but I wouldn't lose sleep if they decided not to give a shit. I'm not talking about people who were working hard and struggling, but people who literally won't respond when you call on them or do any assignments and possibly are actually playing mini-golf and hoping we won't notice. nobody had a problem with this.

now, the last two years, they seem to expect us to babysit. like now even if we approach the managers immediately, they seem to operate with an assumption of "if they're not paying attention, your training must be terrible" and suggest that we need to work harder to figure out why these people don't feel motivated to engage. Like - ok some trainers are terrible and in those cases, most of the class goes to sleep, but you can't just assume that's the cause without any context.

Like, for one, this is a job, not school, you aren't here by law, you're being paid to be here and you literally can't do the job without learning this. If I'm reporting this to you as a manager, this means I already made a ridiculous amount of effort to try to get them to do the work and failed. I'm not wasting more time trying to 'draw them out' at the expense of the 98% of the class's experience, plus they don't actually report to me so why would they listen to me? talk to your own damn employee!

especially when you compare to the class I'm teaching this week, who are have differing skill levels and confidence, but are all 100% committed to it and as a result it's going well.

I still don't play ball with this though, like...one of the perks of being a lifer here is I don't have to do the office politics lol.

waiting for a czar to fall (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 21 February 2023 20:35 (one year ago) link

we had one person (I think I mentioned this two years ago) create a looping video on his phone and put the phone up to the camera to make it look like he was there and he got caught easily because it was crooked and the borders didn't line up and he'd be speaking and his mouth wouldn't move

waiting for a czar to fall (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 21 February 2023 20:38 (one year ago) link

yesterday one of my trainees had to miss the afternoon because of an appointment, so I did the usual, gave them the materials they missed with specific instructions and told them in the morning, I'd teach them the transaction they didn't get to see. so I did that and between that and her self-reading, she was caught up.

We get to the next transaction in the lesson, and she says she needs to meet with her manager, disappears for an hour, and missed the whole demo. back to square one. hope that meeting was important boss man

waiting for a czar to fall (Neanderthal), Thursday, 23 February 2023 15:53 (one year ago) link

and if I try to ping her manager, he's out of the office with no OOO message up and no backup listed, so I have no idea who she is talking to

waiting for a czar to fall (Neanderthal), Thursday, 23 February 2023 16:01 (one year ago) link

Me & one of the other volunteers who worked in the same "department" with Missing Stair finally got to see Missing Stair's timesheets ... she had submitted them to board members who aren't really involved in that work, so they had no real way of determining whether the timesheets were some variety of bullshit. ... Missing Stair was supposed to submit timesheets/invoices on a weekly basis, but did not do so. We saw the timesheet/invoice for the first two weeks in December in mid-January, and the rest when she was asked to stop work last week.

sarahell, Friday, 24 February 2023 16:13 (one year ago) link

oops that should read Me & one of the volunteers (I am a paid contractor).

sarahell, Friday, 24 February 2023 16:14 (one year ago) link

Yikes. So sounds like they were knowingly grifting

waiting for a czar to fall (Neanderthal), Friday, 24 February 2023 16:15 (one year ago) link

idk! the thing is, they haven't been paid for any of their work ... and when I asked them about that, in a meeting with the board, they said, "there are other people ahead of me in line" ... like most grifters are doing it for the money and they are very efficient and focused when it comes to getting paid ... like the roof contractor who gave us a bid for skylights, which we paid for, and did not receive.

sarahell, Friday, 24 February 2023 16:24 (one year ago) link

the board easily understood the roof contractor fraud (this was last year) -- we paid for a thing, we did not get the thing, we did not get our money back. Missing Stair is more complex, because the "deliverables" are not as concrete and clear as "skylights".

sarahell, Friday, 24 February 2023 16:26 (one year ago) link

missing stairs and missing skylights

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 24 February 2023 16:38 (one year ago) link

there's a lot wrong with this place ...

sarahell, Friday, 24 February 2023 16:45 (one year ago) link

My place just decreed five minutes ago that we can't have open season PTO during the holidays anymore, it'll be more of a lottery system for dates around holidays.

To be clear, we already get Thanksgiving (and the day after), Christmas,and New Years off for the entire company. And it definitely did suck last year the week where I was the only one in the office.

But they've said they want us to take our PTO earlier, and yet they also tell us each year to limit or not take PTO between August - October during Open Enrollment.

I earn 25 days a year of PTO, and they already have me scheduled for shit months out, so I'm like...uhh I'd this is what you want, I'm going to have to take PTO during weeks you scheduled me to do things.

waiting for a czar to fall (Neanderthal), Friday, 24 February 2023 17:00 (one year ago) link

I resent though more that this is coming from other leaders demanding we be here even though almost nobody in customer care management works in December

waiting for a czar to fall (Neanderthal), Friday, 24 February 2023 17:00 (one year ago) link

ugh that sucks!

sarahell, Friday, 24 February 2023 17:02 (one year ago) link

Ima take a two week vacay I think lmao

waiting for a czar to fall (Neanderthal), Friday, 24 February 2023 17:28 (one year ago) link

have now lined up two weeks of vacay spread out on various weeks through May, woohoo. eat it dorks.

waiting for a czar to fall (Neanderthal), Friday, 24 February 2023 19:32 (one year ago) link

hey dude, you ask me when the next scheduled training is every month. I give you the calendar link that shows it every month.

and you ask again every time.

why?

why?

why?

(hear that in Annie Lennox voice)

waiting for a czar to fall (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 28 February 2023 17:37 (one year ago) link

The beatings will continue until morale improves.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 28 February 2023 17:39 (one year ago) link

we don't beat anybody we just give 25% off coupons to Magic games

waiting for a czar to fall (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 1 March 2023 14:52 (one year ago) link

if the infraction is severe the tickets are free

waiting for a czar to fall (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 1 March 2023 14:52 (one year ago) link

my trainer: so here's the new way you log into the console

2 trainees: oh we don't use that console, we use XX app instead

me: uhh hey this isn't in our requirements, you have two users who still use XX app?

managers: yeah, they support Team A and Team B on XX app

me: but Team A moved off of XX app last month. how are they still using it?

managers: HEY LOOK OVER THERE, BALTHAZAR GETTY IS GETTING A HAIRCUT

me: look over where, this is an email

waiting for a czar to fall (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 1 March 2023 14:55 (one year ago) link

lol they've been logged into profiles on a platform that was decommissioned last month ,so they can't receive any inbound calls on it. they probably just assumed it wasn't busy.

waiting for a czar to fall (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 1 March 2023 15:27 (one year ago) link

older coworker and I were having internet connectivity issues. While mine was on the fritz he goes “hey I just sent you something on Microsoft Teams, let me know if you get it.”

Once I get my issues I see the message he sent: “Fuck off”

Western® with Bacon Flavor, Wednesday, 1 March 2023 19:58 (one year ago) link

lol

waiting for a czar to fall (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 1 March 2023 20:06 (one year ago) link

my co-worker's uncle got mentioned on an ILM thread ...

sarahell, Thursday, 2 March 2023 08:18 (one year ago) link

this is the "i know more important and influential people than you" co-worker

sarahell, Thursday, 2 March 2023 08:32 (one year ago) link

weird factoid - years ago I found out Dan Perry and I worked for the same company and almost pinged him when I realized that if I did id be the stupid, annoying co-worker.

But who are we doing it versus? (sunny successor), Wednesday, 8 March 2023 00:59 (one year ago) link

we typically double up two instructors to a class here, so that if one person goes down, they have a backup. Typically we don't replace that person for the day unless it's 15+ people.

today, one of our instructors had to leave early due to an emergency, and instead of just telling the other instructor they'd be finishing the last last 2 hours solo, the supervisor began panicking and begging the team chat for someone to help take over.

Gee, Mr Supervisor, which makes more sense, letting the person who's been with the class all week finish, while you keep an eye on the class, or introducing a complete stranger to the class on the final day of training, who has had no time to prepare?

(fortunately they couldn't ask me - I'm taking dad to one of his checkups...booyah!)

i kind of need a sanity check / other povs on this.

i opt out of all work-related celebrations. i DO NOT share my birthday on the work calendar. i don't do treats in the break room. i don't go to retirement parties. i will avoid xmas parties if at all possible. and i don't care how it makes me look. i get paid to show up, none of these people are my friends, i don't want to relate to coworkers outside of work, my career 'ambitions' are miniscule compared to my desire to avoid awkward small talk or field happy birthdays from people i dislike. am i too much of an asshole here? should i pick one of these things to just do? i will sign a card if it's handed to me, but that's about it. thank you in advance for your thoughts.

ꙮ (map), Monday, 20 March 2023 18:01 (one year ago) link

I think these are quite small things and I get what you’re saying, that you’re not there to make friends, but stuff tends to be better when you do opt in to some of this stuff, doing otherwise makes things unnecessarily difficult ime

limb tins & cum (gyac), Monday, 20 March 2023 18:06 (one year ago) link

You're obviously ok with them knowing you dislike them so you must be ok with them disliking you back. Are you trying to show them how much of their reciprocal dislike you can take and still stand strong?

Is the mutual-dislike thing a dance or some other sort of performance that benefits you all? Everybody gets to say "whew at least I'm not THAT person" and pat themselves on the back.

Being pleasant with people I wouldn't otherwise spend time with occasionally lets me in close enough to undermine their bullshit with a smile but mostly I don't let them live in my head.

The Terroir of Tiny Town (WmC), Monday, 20 March 2023 18:15 (one year ago) link

Yes, much better way of putting it. It’s more energy!

limb tins & cum (gyac), Monday, 20 March 2023 18:17 (one year ago) link

it's kinda unclear whether it's an issue of active dislike and more of a chill apathy? It depends on the culture of the workplace imo. There are some places where keeping to yourself and not participating really makes people think you're a dick, and others where, there are enough other people with stuff going on in their lives that it's less of a deal?

sarahell, Monday, 20 March 2023 18:22 (one year ago) link

like perhaps you could just be the motherfucker with dark secrets and peacefully coexist while still maintaining your distance.

sarahell, Monday, 20 March 2023 18:24 (one year ago) link

thanks. sorry i was being dramatic and over-generalizing - i don't dislike everyone at work & i'm actually pretty friendly with two or three people. the first year or so i was maybe more 'let's be friends' until i realized that just wasn't going to work for me, we didn't have very much in common, etc. we're still friendly though. the people i do dislike i'm absolutely ok with them disliking me back. group things are difficult for me (social anxiety).

Is the mutual-dislike thing a dance or some other sort of performance that benefits you all? Everybody gets to say "whew at least I'm not THAT person" and pat themselves on the back.

lol this is interesting. i don't think so? i think there is at least one other person who fills that role more prominently than i do. also i've had feedback from two-three people that i'm very nice and personable (these people don't strike me as super genuine but w/e). so maybe skipping social stuff isn't having that much of an effect.

i'm considering going to the weekly friday morning coffee thing once in a while. but that's a wfh day for me and when push comes to shove it's really hard to get me out of my slippers on a friday morning lol.

thanks for answering when i guess i have no intention to significantly change what i'm doing lol.

ꙮ (map), Monday, 20 March 2023 18:31 (one year ago) link

and my workplace is full of introverts and people who keep to themselves so i guess this is relatively Not A Problem now that i think about it. maybe just some ambient anxiety about coming across as gloomy - my partner told me the other day that i'm on the cloudy side when i asked him if i came across as dour or not, which is absolutely true and fair and made me lol.

ꙮ (map), Monday, 20 March 2023 18:37 (one year ago) link

I've got nothing much useful to say beyond I wish I could put a value on the hours I've spent a) manoeuvring and navigating around this shit and ii) worrying about the previous and future manoeuvrings and navigations to do with this shit. If you're good as you are, crack on!

Also, manoeuvring is a vowel-greedy prick of a word to spell.

Shard-borne Beatles with their drowsy hums (Chinaski), Monday, 20 March 2023 19:31 (one year ago) link

I don't interact out of work with anybody I work with. I don't give out my phone number to anyone I work with either and beyond a 'have a nice day off' or 'did you have a nice day off' I don't really converse with anyone at work. it seems fine to me, tho I work retail rather than in an office and a lot of the shift is in a single staffed shop or going from shop to shop replenning. mind you I am v v bad a interacting with people in general and even a customers generic 'how are you today?' when said to me makes me uncomfortable to the point where I don't answer and instead ask them if they need a bag with their purchase.

oscar bravo, Monday, 20 March 2023 20:49 (one year ago) link

I've worked several places where I've said out loud there's no fucking way I'm spending any of of my free time with you people. Super fortunate now to work with folks I genuinely enjoy being around but thankfully the company culture doesn't expect people to spend free time in company activities.

Jaq, Monday, 20 March 2023 21:22 (one year ago) link

Depends on the workplace and the people but I feel like everyone workplace has at least one perfectly decent person who Just Doesn't Do That Stuff socially with colleagues. Once that's accepted I think it's ok. It's the pushback on it that can cause the friction and/or any impression that you're doing it to express your dislike. "Treats in the break room" might be the only thing I'm not sure about as not really sure what that is other than bringing stuff in for people to eat at their leisure? In which case it's fine not to do?

My workplaces usually if it's your birthday you bring in treats and no-one really makes a big deal other than asking if you're doing anything nice. I tend to work in introverted places though.

kinder, Monday, 20 March 2023 22:05 (one year ago) link

I am fortunate in that I like most of my colleagues and a few of them are close friends. If I didn't want to be around the people I worked with, I would probably look elsewhere.

That said, no one should feel pressure or anxiety about showing up for work shit like "Hawaiian Shirt Day."

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 20 March 2023 22:14 (one year ago) link

I'm a lawyer, so most of my co-workers are anything but introverted.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 20 March 2023 22:16 (one year ago) link

There is nothing sadder than seeing someone hang out with people they work with outside of work. I will never spend an unpaid minute with a coworker.

brotherlovesdub, Tuesday, 21 March 2023 00:33 (one year ago) link

There is nothing sadder than seeing someone hang out with people they work with outside of work. I will never spend an unpaid minute with a coworker.

When I was a magazine editor I would occasionally attend concerts with one co-worker or another. I took a guy to see Iron Maiden, and another guy came with me to see Bob Seger.

but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 21 March 2023 01:12 (one year ago) link

I have seen past coworkers socially. It can happen. Cripes this chat is depressing.

maf you one two (maffew12), Tuesday, 21 March 2023 01:16 (one year ago) link

There is nothing sadder than seeing someone hang out with people they work with outside of work. I will never spend an unpaid minute with a coworker.

― brotherlovesdub, Monday, March 20, 2023 8:33 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

this is a completely insane post although i am ultimately tilted more toward the map position in this conversation--i have never sought to have friendships or meaningful relationships with coworkers and have dodged my share of social events. but i've also gone to my share of social events, it's a matter of finding a balance and realizing that some of these things are low stakes and can generate some good will in exchange for a couple hours of your time.

if you want to opt out of all this stuff i would advise being super friendly and accessible during work hours so you have some plausible deniability as being a nice person who "just doesn't go to those things"

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 21 March 2023 02:02 (one year ago) link

There is nothing sadder than seeing someone hang out with people they work with outside of work. I will never spend an unpaid minute with a coworker.

― brotherlovesdub, Monday, March 20, 2023 8:33 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

I met one of my all time best friends at my job 18 years ago.

hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 21 March 2023 02:45 (one year ago) link

Regarding socializing, it's kind of moot being that my team is all virtual but when I was office bound, I went to some get-togethers, didn't go to others. Wasn't something I thought a lot about, we didn't have em often.

Lived with one of my former coworkers, but I knew him from theatre before he got hired.

Co-workers all being each other's best friends is a big thing in restaurants and bars though

hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 21 March 2023 02:51 (one year ago) link

I was close with a lot of my coworkers in the art handling business. I think some jobs are so specialized that they draw a certain type of person together that would often not find each other out in the wild. People not in that job/experience get seen as civilians, or outsiders. We all liked art and music more than the Regular People we ran into outside of work.

Now that I'm in a different city and not working, I don't know how to find people. My wife keeps trying to get me to go to book clubs and things to socialize but it feels weird and I'm resistant.

Cow_Art, Tuesday, 21 March 2023 03:05 (one year ago) link

am i too much of an asshole here?

if this is what works for you, then you are totally justified in doing it that way. just realize that people will notice. but their noticing won't matter so long as you are reasonably cordial, competent and helpful in all the aspects of your job that really matter most to your co-workers. no one resents a co-worker who always delivers what they are paid to deliver and is moderately agreeable in the process. the rest is just hoo-hah that barely matters in reality.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 21 March 2023 03:12 (one year ago) link

I think I’ve hit all the coworker interaction points from socialization with them when I had absolutely nothing in common to feeling like I have social peers. The weird part is feeling awkward at the latter because the concerted effort to appease or avoid exists when you might just have a possible friend

mh, Tuesday, 21 March 2023 04:10 (one year ago) link

There is nothing sadder than seeing someone hang out with people they work with outside of work. I will never spend an unpaid minute with a coworker.

Just to give a counterpoint: I don't really give a shit about most of the work I've done in the past, or the places I've worked (teaching is different, a bit), but I do remember the people I worked with. Often, it's the only thing that got me through.

Shard-borne Beatles with their drowsy hums (Chinaski), Tuesday, 21 March 2023 08:19 (one year ago) link

I've worked in places where I've ended up really close to people and I've worked in places where I've known the people just are not for me. I know that in most contexts I'm not an easy person to get on with - niche interests, strong political beliefs shaping everything I do, unconventional home life and background - it can be hard to relate, on both my side and for anyone who gets to know me. I don't go the cinema or pay attention to any sports so a lot of small talk stuff doesn't work either. So it does make the idle chatter at work a little trickier. But I find that it's really easy to build rapport simply by taking an interest in people and asking some questions about specifics. "What's his name and how did you meet?" "What did you pick from the menu and was it good?" "Would you recommend it if you haven't seen the first one?"

I think it depends on the job/role how important it is to do this. I worked in retail for over a decade and my best jobs were ones where I made close friends. My favourite coworkers have remained friends, and it's been organic rather than contrived reunions - it just made sense to keep texting every few days and see what was going on with each other. I worked in one place for a year that was a very masculine, macho environment that didn't suit me - it didn't mean I disliked the people, it just didn't make sense that we would have been pals outside of work as we had very little in common in terms of interests or beliefs. I think in retail and hospitality you need those friendships - you're united by a common hatred of the customer and you need to be able to vent. There's few things that help ease the pressure like having a colleague who you can shoot a look at and they know instinctively what you're thinking and how to help you.

In my current job I work from home 3/4 days a week. I get on with people but I can feel the forced attempts at bonding and it makes me squirm. They're all nice people, some are even lovely, but I'm quite happy for it to remain at pub-every-three-months level.

boxedjoy, Tuesday, 21 March 2023 08:54 (one year ago) link

In my current job I have to speak to vulnerable and distressed people quite frequently. Sometimes you take a call from someone and they disclose things that can be quite upsetting and triggering. My personality isn't one that really gets "upset" by things - I'm more likely to get angry at a colleague's ineffectiveness than upset by a client's circumstances, not because I'm heartless but because I think there's no point getting upset over what can't be controlled and instead it's better to work towards a better result. But I've seen some people get bothered by stuff they've heard, and I find it hard to not want to say something to help them. Of course, my something is usually more pragmatic than consoling - "you can't do anything about this now, so why don't you make a tea and work on something else instead?" But it seems to work, and I find people do respond to my slightly brittle attitude positively.

When we started the job, we did our training completely via Teams. We had a day-long session on dealing with upsetting calls and clients at risk of harm. At the end of it, the trainer asked us how we felt about being able to support each other. The rest of the room was saying "oh yeah I would definitely take someone for a coffee if I thought they were upset" and of course I was the only one who said... actually, I wouldn't, because I don't know anyone well enough, I'm not a trained psychologist so I might not say the right thing, and I've got enough on my own plate mentally without taking other people's stresses on. There was a good ten seconds of awkward silence before the trainer said "well, I respect your honesty." If I saw someone crying I wouldn't just ignore them but it would be to signpost them to support rather than provide it myself.

boxedjoy, Tuesday, 21 March 2023 09:11 (one year ago) link

This thread makes me think that most workplaces are deeply dysfunctional.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 21 March 2023 13:17 (one year ago) link

I think some jobs are so specialized that they draw a certain type of person together that would often not find each other out in the wild

my current co-worker and I talk about this regularly ... though we have a number of mutual friends outside of work ... but then the job we do is pretty niche?

sarahell, Tuesday, 21 March 2023 15:20 (one year ago) link

also we were volunteers in an all volunteer group before there was money to pay us so it isn't a typical workplace situation

sarahell, Tuesday, 21 March 2023 15:23 (one year ago) link

do you all have co-workers as FB friends?

I was a bit more lax w/ it when FB was less of a toxic place, and even listed where I worked. then one day I made an off the cuff post about my pay raise, someone saw it, told another person who told another person, who was upset that they didn't get selected for our dept, and made noise about my 'bragging' about my pay raise, and it got back to my boss, who ultimately didn't care but said 'be careful about that' and scolded me mildly. so I removed the place I worked and haven't listed it since.

I temporarily stopped adding co-workers as FB friends, but my dept from 2011 - 2018 loved adding each other and I didn't want to be the one resister, so I added them all, but I immediately added each one to a special Friend group that is blocked from seeing anything I post, so as far as they can see, I have never posted. My current dept, I haven't friended a single person and we just don't do that (other than my boss, who I'd friended when I first met him years earlier, before he was my boss).

did manage to find out one of my former co-workers is a mega dumb Trump fucker, most of the rest are harmless people who post nonsense like "TODAY IS A GIFT, THAT'S WHY IT'S CALLED THE PRESENT".

hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 21 March 2023 15:30 (one year ago) link

I had a 'no current colleagues on FB' rule - so when I left I added the people I liked. My friends have a weird sense of humour and I didn't want any worries about who might misinterpret anything. Tbf no-one posts anything on FB any more anyway.

kinder, Tuesday, 21 March 2023 16:18 (one year ago) link

Absolutely refused to allow any of my 2001-2021 clients and their circle into my FB. The owners of the place where I tend bar were FB friends before they opened the place so the waters have been muddied since 2020. I would like to rant a lot more about the bad-tipping assholes of my area but even more about how the whole tipping situation shouldn't be happening because restaurant owners should pay a living wage, but that would burn some bridges I'm still walking across.

The Terroir of Tiny Town (WmC), Tuesday, 21 March 2023 16:46 (one year ago) link

OTOH, it would give you the chance for the cool "walking away from an explosion" shot.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 21 March 2023 16:49 (one year ago) link

sort of lost the conversation thread but just wanted to respond to this.

I've worked in places where I've ended up really close to people and I've worked in places where I've known the people just are not for me. I know that in most contexts I'm not an easy person to get on with - niche interests, strong political beliefs shaping everything I do, unconventional home life and background - it can be hard to relate, on both my side and for anyone who gets to know me. I don't go the cinema or pay attention to any sports so a lot of small talk stuff doesn't work either. So it does make the idle chatter at work a little trickier. But I find that it's really easy to build rapport simply by taking an interest in people and asking some questions about specifics. "What's his name and how did you meet?" "What did you pick from the menu and was it good?" "Would you recommend it if you haven't seen the first one?"

i really appreciate this perspective. i've gotten better at asking people these kinds of questions. being "interested in others" at work. it does still feel like an act though, because deep inside i still long to be known and loved - there's a hole there from what can be summarized as "queer boy raised in conservative environment who has had to cut off his family". obviously stuff for therapy. but anyway my tolerance for being the "considerate gay man who is always interested in your straight & strong hetero family life usually with mormon cultural stuff involved" is not always there. part of this is the fact that i live in the mormon capital of the world, and my "respectable" state job attracts a lot of those kind of people. the other type of person it attracts is "respectable liberal" which also feels like a club i've been rejected from, somewhat by choice. i've also found difficulty in relating to others in my "less respectable" workplace at the gay bar where i dj, because queer people here all have this burden of trauma from being raised in the fucked up conservative background and many of them have really maladaptive responses to that that i don't want to get wrapped up in. it truly feels like i've reached the end of the line in the place where i live, like there are only so many "types" of people who live here and i'm just fucking bone-tired of all of them.

anyway, this is a funny conversation timing-wise, because a position opened up where i work that would be a significant pay raise. it requires conflict resolution skills and knowledge of records law. conflict resolution i am actually pretty good at i think. records law i find boring but could learn more enthusiastically if it was in the service of helping people reach solutions. i may have been ruled out already - this is the kind of position that the director here likely has some leads / recruiting in the bag for. i think i'm going to apply anyway though. even though i'm just civil but honestly cold and withdrawn when it comes to interacting with anyone here including administrators.

ꙮ (map), Tuesday, 21 March 2023 16:51 (one year ago) link

There is nothing sadder than seeing someone hang out with people they work with outside of work.

i'm going to assume this hyperbole and not the incredibly judgmental/ignorant statement it reads as.
one thing i loved about my industry is the creative/interesting/funny people it attracts. some of my best friends are former coworkers. my gf is a former coworker. i couldn't imagine working in a place filled with people i had a screaming desire to not be around.

that's not to say there's anything wrong with not doing work social events. even in my industry people understand that some people are introverts or private (or even in recovery) etc.

and even tho i enjoyed the odd work from home day before coivd, i've been 100% remote since i started working again and i am miserable. i miss the people. i feel like i've been in prison for the last 2-3 years. like my growth as a person has been stunted. i'm hearing less new music, going to way fewer events, learning about fewer books/docs etc etc etc – all stuff i'd have happening if i had that group of smart energetic people i used to be surrounded by. of course some people are duds; but idiots and dead weight tend to get culled from this business. and i guess i just did not realize how hard of a time i have been having until i typed all this out just now

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 21 March 2023 16:53 (one year ago) link

generally speaking i wonder if it would be possible to feel more joy at work? instead of just grudging tiredness or dread all the time. which leads me to think that maybe i need a career change. no idea what that would be though. which reminds me i need to get back to therapy with a good therapist i can't find and don't have the money for. xp

ꙮ (map), Tuesday, 21 March 2023 16:55 (one year ago) link

There is nothing sadder than seeing someone hang out with people they work with outside of work.

actually this is "funny" because last week, me & my co-worker went out to lunch because we had to go to a work site, and in the main room of the restaurant were a table of people who also worked together who were having the type of interactions that I'm sure this statement is based on observing ... the guy who was obviously the boss making a dumb joke and the underlings dutifully laughing, and I think there was bro-y mentions of targets and deliverables.

sarahell, Tuesday, 21 March 2023 17:42 (one year ago) link

do you all have co-workers as FB friends?

Something like 98% of my Facebook friends are musicians, fellow writers, or people employed in the music industry. Maybe twenty of those are people I shared physical office space with at one point or another. The remaining 2% are two or three blood relatives and two or three people I went to high school with.

but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 21 March 2023 18:27 (one year ago) link

yeah I guess the music industry would have more social media networking than, say, mine. that's what i see with the concert promoters i'm friends with as well.

apparently my good friend (the one I referenced upthread) has virtual whiskey drinking sessions w/ his boss. that's p cool.

hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 21 March 2023 18:37 (one year ago) link

ok I'm not *that* optimistic about work relations, that does not sound cool

maf you one two (maffew12), Tuesday, 21 March 2023 18:40 (one year ago) link

drinking w coworkers = definitely a situation i will never be in, mostly because i don't drink anymore

ꙮ (map), Tuesday, 21 March 2023 18:43 (one year ago) link

Thanks for your followups, map, cuz the initial post struck me as bleak. I'm coming out of an office where it was like I was strange for bothering to say "good morning". Awful place with mostly ok people when you did have occasion to chat a bit. Terrible workplace cultures can be like that. I avoided any of their (infrequent) extracurriculars because they were horribly awkward. I got by with just friendly greetings and a personal commitment to not spending a solitary unpaid minute in the place (breaktime walks). Clear to me now that I stayed too long.

maf you one two (maffew12), Tuesday, 21 March 2023 18:44 (one year ago) link

i did a line of blow towards the end of a shift once (was at a friend's house, we were having a weekend long party after work, and I'd brought my laptop to finish the day). and got a tough work question ten minutes later that only I was left to answer, thankfully they didn't ask me to jump on a call.

hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 21 March 2023 18:54 (one year ago) link

anyway i don't recommend that

hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 21 March 2023 18:54 (one year ago) link

I mean, I've never tried it, but I understand that coke really puts you at peak performance for at least a few minutes.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 21 March 2023 18:55 (one year ago) link

If you’re accustomed to it. If you’re really bowled over you will be a rambling, jaw gyrating disaster.

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 21 March 2023 19:08 (one year ago) link

it didn't put me at peak anything. one reason i quit doing it, that and it raised my already high heart rate

hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 21 March 2023 19:10 (one year ago) link

having good managers/colleagues makes such a huge difference in my case. I’m not someone who needs to be praised a whole lot or at all really, but there’s a strong culture of gratitude in my department that is really infectious. Everyone is nice, respectful, my manager is incredibly compassionate and organized and is always giving me opportunities to grow my skill set. I believe the cause of the org I work for passionately. Also, I have such respect and admiration for the “important” people I support,
I get real satisfaction out of helping them, relieving their stress, making their to-do list smaller… it maybe sounds all fake nice or something to an outsider but it’s real and it’s powerful.

brimstead, Tuesday, 21 March 2023 20:03 (one year ago) link

otm. my last boss was very much the opposite of my previous one - the boss I had when I first moved over here was an establishment asshole, she frequently reacted negatively to you sharing concerns, stated you shouldn't 'make noise', and even intimated PTO could be 'unapproved'. Frequently made decisions that fucked over a lot of people and didn't give a shit. last boss would move mountains for you but wasn't a pushover either, and firmly believed in work/life balance and helping achieve that.

it really does trickle down. I'm a team player to begin with but ultimately found myself being more willing to help my teammates out when my basic needs were being tended to. it actually meant a lot to me to hear so many of the people I'm coaching say they appreciate how I make myself available and go out of my way to help because once upon a time in my career, I was considered to be a Terrell Owens.

hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 21 March 2023 20:19 (one year ago) link

ok something a little more relevant to map’s specific revive: even thought I really like my colleagues and managers a lot, I would be terrified to have a “social hour” with most of them because I am very guarded irl and have big time vulnerability hangovers (s/o brené brown). BUT, the two “work development” retreats we’ve had have been really wonderful and uplifting and just super good feels, heart emojis all around.

But when I worked retail with some other music obsessives, we would ALWAYS go out drinking after work but I was in my twenties and it was just a totally different dynamic, and it was cathartic to let loose together in a way. And I mean, I bought weed from one of these people.

brimstead, Tuesday, 21 March 2023 20:29 (one year ago) link

Yes, Execs, abruptly shifting almost all of our proprietary or semi-proprietary software to commercial cloud solutions all around the same time was a monumentally stupid idea, not least because you often need to reach out to a third party to diagnose issues but half of the solutions you bought made previously simple processes much more complicated.

Enjoy your increased stock prices though.

(If I get the new role I'll be leaving this cesspit thankfully)

hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 22 March 2023 19:37 (one year ago) link

feeling pretty pissed today. i have to present to a committee almost every month on behalf of government agencies who want to get r3cords ret3ntion sch3dules approved. one committee member in particular is just out there, a grandstander who frequently loses focus and goes off the rails, doesn't really have anything at stake (useless journalism professor at shit local university). he was needlessly antagonistic to my agency today. i didn't say anything out of line but i was rolling my eyes and mouthing things pretty hard during the virtual meeting with my camera on. he sent me an email shortly after the meeting ended with a bunch of questions that he wanted "addressed in the next meeting" way beyond the scope of the matters being discussed. i replied that his questions were best directed to the agency, and that "with all due respect, you might see a more productive outcome with a less antagonistic tone." my boss was cced on all of this. she's the kind of person who will absolutely throw you under the bus at the faintest breath of someone more powerful than you. no response from anyone. can't stop replaying all this bullshit in my head. i don't get paid enough to deal diplomatically with these stupid jerk offs. i find it impossible to just let them run over me. at this point in my career if i can find a somewhat tactful way to say 'fuck off' to these kinds of people i will. i feel really at the end of my rope right now. might take some sick hours tomorrow morning. i hardly have any left because i have to give myself breaks from my awful boss so often. FUCK

ꙮ (map), Tuesday, 28 March 2023 00:26 (one year ago) link

still trying to parse out how much of a mistake that email response was. i clearly sound upset and didn't respond to any of his questions but the point isn't invalid. i need a break from this meeting, not going to be attending next month's if at all possible. and i gave myself two hours off tomorrow morning for an 'appointment'.

ꙮ (map), Tuesday, 28 March 2023 01:46 (one year ago) link

So I have a job that is officially split between two different roles (but probably closer to three in practice), one of which is more straightforward project management and the other is a behind the scenes role that keeps our workplace management system software up to date. The former requires your usual collaboration and meetings with consultants, etc etc. The latter is very much more a solitary thing, lots of updating CAD floor plans to reflect built conditions, populating occupants, running reports for various departments, etc etc.

Anyway, this particular co-worker keeps making comments in meetings along the lines of, "jon/via/chi 2.0 has plenty of time to chip in, his calendar isn't very full!" or, "you've got nothing to do today, do you? that's a completely clear calendar!". When, in fact, those no obvious meeting days are amongst my busiest because that's when I'm able to cram in all of the behind the scenes stuff that builds up while I'm doing the other half of my job. I've reminded this coworker politely several times of this dual role and my other responsibilities, but they keep making these dumbass comments and it makes my skin crawl - especially when other people's eyes light up with ideas of tasks they can pawn off on me. Ultimately the important people (i.e. my boss and leadership) know what I do and understand the importance, but this newer employee is a blatant ladder climber and sees any opening to diminish what I do as a chance to inflate their own importance. I'm just afraid my friendly reminders are going to become less and less friendly.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 28 March 2023 16:38 (one year ago) link

tl;dr version - the volume of meetings one sits through every day does not necessarily reflect the level of effort one puts into their job, so stfu ding-dong

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 28 March 2023 16:39 (one year ago) link

if you proposed in one of those meetings that you'd have more time if you had someone sharing that secondary responsibility, would they volunteer themself?

if not, might be fun to throw out there to call the bluff

mh, Tuesday, 28 March 2023 17:34 (one year ago) link

Have you done the passive aggressive “as we’ve discussed already… yadda yadda” when they offer you up for projects?
If you’re worried they are making you look bad, I’d probably talk to my superior (or theirs) about their behaviour, since you’ve talked to them directly. Maybe suggest they hire a dedicated person for the solitary job if people keeping wanting to send you extra work?

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 28 March 2023 18:03 (one year ago) link

update your calendar to reflect what you actually do.

koogs, Tuesday, 28 March 2023 18:07 (one year ago) link

lol I like the idea of calling that bluff mh, not sure how well received it would be. Definitely have tried the passive aggressive route, but this particular coworker just seems kind of oblivious. I know I'm not the only one put off by their communication style. Mostly just triggers the part of me that hates when anyone judges the quality of one's work solely by the amount of meetings they suffer through.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 28 March 2023 18:17 (one year ago) link

"jon/via/chi 2.0 has plenty of time to..."

Stand up, slam your hands on the table, shout "TAKE MY NAME OUT OF YOUR FUCKING MOUTH."

Cow_Art, Tuesday, 28 March 2023 18:18 (one year ago) link

haha, i mean...

something along the lines of "bitch, i'm busy" is what i would say. maybe without "bitch." but i seem incapable of setting my boundaries without scaring other people. on the other hand, scaring other people has been somewhat effective for me!

ꙮ (map), Tuesday, 28 March 2023 18:22 (one year ago) link

a little show of teeth can be very effective ime

ꙮ (map), Tuesday, 28 March 2023 18:22 (one year ago) link

"i need you to stop volunteering my time, i do important things you don't need to know about all day, every day."

ꙮ (map), Tuesday, 28 March 2023 18:26 (one year ago) link

is this Outlook? cos this would be a great time to like, create a private meeting for all day, every day, so you appear busy all day. though that then makes it impossible for other people to know when you're free.

or you can just update your daily calendar to reflect all the tasks that you do and make the contents of your meetings only visible to this co-worker. you can create them all passive-aggressive, like...let's say the co-worker's name was Stewart:

9:00 - 10:00 am - "Review Files that Stewart is too stupid to understand"
10:00 am - 10:30 am - "Think about how stupid Stewart is and laugh"
10:30 - 11:00 am - "Fix each thing Stewart screwed up"
11:00 am - 1:00 pm - "Continue fixing the things Stewart screwed up"
1:00 pm - 1:30 pm - "Lunch, and also thinking about how stupid Stewart is"
1:30 pm - 2:00 pm - "Work on Excel file, which Stewart could never understand"

etc

hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 28 March 2023 18:29 (one year ago) link

haha

ꙮ (map), Tuesday, 28 March 2023 18:34 (one year ago) link

if your manager is of the right temperament you can always say "you can ask my manager about my workload at any time"

mh, Tuesday, 28 March 2023 18:44 (one year ago) link

yep - not a bad idea there too!

kinda glad my team isn't really like that. we go through ebbs and flows, and most of us offer up our free time to each other when someone needs help, but nobody demands it from anybody, which is how it should be (and fuck it, even if you're not all that busy, you should be able to enjoy those lulls, because you sure as fuck aren't going to have them forever).

in 2011, I was part of a team that handled tickets, and managers used an Excel tool that estimated the daily work hours for everyone. The creator himself admitted it was a flawed tool that largely couldn't take complexity of tasks into account, but managers treated it as gospel. If you assigned four tasks to yourself that the Excel tool estimated as 4 hours of work, but you took 8 hours to do it as one or two of them were complex tasks, you got chewed out for taking on "too little work".

We complained about it, managers were not listening to our complaints, so I gamed the system. I knew the Excel formula assigned one hour to any call-review ticket, so my last two months, I would deliberately find tickets with one call to review that lasted 5 minutes or less, assigned 8-10 of them to myself everyday, and got praise for all of the 'hard work' I was doing. so the system would show me doing 8-10 hours of work when I'd be doing maybe 1-2 hours of it. felt zero guilt for it either - they decided to reward the appearance of doing work, so many of us made it work in our favor.

then the department dissolved and I moved to a department that gave me an instant promotion/raise. win-win.

hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 28 March 2023 19:03 (one year ago) link

"i need you to stop volunteering my time, i do important things you don't need to know about all day, every day."


I love this so so much

brimstead, Tuesday, 28 March 2023 19:17 (one year ago) link

Should be a sign to hang

hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 28 March 2023 19:26 (one year ago) link

i'm giggling at this one (mostly cos it's not my problem to fix).

we rolled out new telephony software with a live date of 3/30 for this team. during requirements, they specifically asked the dev team to record their personal, non-business lines, because they often give out their direct # to clients. during the training sessions, the trainers and I repeated that these lines would be recorded per their request.

Yesterday, one of the managers comes to the dev team panicked, saying "there's a government agency we call where the call can't be recorded, how do we turn recording off?", and the dev manager is pissed, telling them you can't just hit a button and turn it off and on, and showing them the requirements they agreed to, and asking how nobody thought of this in the 1.5 months of development.

this week was rough. i've decided i'm actively looking for a new job now. my boss is a huge problem who makes me very angry. it turns out you can't be a wannabe tyrant, executively incompetent (adhd?), pretend everything is fine and not your fault actually, and have anyone sane like you, unless your own boss is a slimy coward who benefits from the dysfunction.

ꙮ (map), Friday, 31 March 2023 19:02 (one year ago) link

best of luck and hope you're able to find a new job. your manager sounds like a nightmare.

Will.I.Am's fetid urine (Neanderthal), Monday, 10 April 2023 20:03 (one year ago) link

little more of a serious thing today, but an HR complaint came out in regards to a class I supervised (but did not lead) recently. not necessarily anything to do with me or the trainers (I have no idea what it's about). But one of the trainers, who works for a partner site that we work with, was invited to a confidential meeting to discuss the complaint.

She wasn't sure if she should attend, largely because she's technically not an employee of my company (and I have no idea what the co-employment laws are in regards to HR compelling a testimony). The correct move would be to ask her manager, who would reach up to the leader of her company if needed, but instead, she inexplicably asked me, while also sharing a screenshot of the invite, making me aware of a confidential investigation that I wasn't supposed to know anything about.

it's probably not a huge deal, as it didn't have any specific details about the investigation, but nonetheless now puts me into a position where I have to be careful to respond correctly, otherwise it'll give the appearance that I interfered, albeit accidentally, with the investigation.

eventually just pulled back and said that neither me nor my manager should really be giving direction here, and to reach out to their manager/location leader, who can follow up with my company's leaders if they need to.

of course, 30 minutes before me taking three days off, lol.

Will.I.Am's fetid urine (Neanderthal), Monday, 10 April 2023 20:31 (one year ago) link

(most likely, the complaint is about one of the students, who probably broke the code of conduct at some point or something. who knows)

Will.I.Am's fetid urine (Neanderthal), Monday, 10 April 2023 20:45 (one year ago) link

the chair of my department, a nice enough guy who seems in over his head and also seems blazingly incompetent as an admin, has consistently scheduled events and meetings during one of my classes that many of my students are compelled to attend.
at first i thought it was just a quirky thing, but it actually seems to be a weird pattern— there are few to no events at other times. i am guessing that the day of the week is the best time for him, schedule-wise, and so he basically just forgot that other classes exist…even tho he makes the schedule lmfao.

at this juncture i can’t complain too much— but jfc it is tiresome and really disruptive to deal with students having to leave or miss class all the time. one student even said it seemed akin to bullying!!

Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Tuesday, 11 April 2023 14:17 (one year ago) link

The correct move would be to ask her manager, who would reach up to the leader of her company if needed

gonna guess this is the actions of someone with a lousy manager they feel they can't trust

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 11 April 2023 14:48 (one year ago) link

possibly.

in other news, STILL haven't had an interview scheduled for the new position, and it's been almost a month. I checked with the recruiter a week and a half ago and was assured (with somewhat of an annoyed tone) that I was still going to be interviewed, but the interviewer was in and out of the office the past few weeks. unless the guy spent a month in Cabo, having a hard time understanding how he couldn't even SCHEDULE the interview yet, even if it's set for far in the future.

having been through this cycle on both sides, as interviewer, and interviewee, this is abnormal, as usually you get interviewed a few weeks after your pre-screen. it feels like something is amiss but holding out hope. not the end of the world by any means, I still have a job obv.

Will.I.Am's fetid urine (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 11 April 2023 15:09 (one year ago) link

pretty much had a warning meeting today, presented as 'performance coaching,' but from my manager's follow-up email it looks like a semi-official write-up. she had the director there / on her side. do some agreed upon in writing things or risk getting fired. lots of other stuff too including some snaky things from an unnamed "coworker". feels like she wants me fired. putting all the energy i can into search for a new job. in the meantime need to doggy paddle at this one to hold onto it because i have no backup right now and i don't want to be homeless.

ꙮ (map), Wednesday, 12 April 2023 03:27 (one year ago) link

thankfully "stop posting to ilx" was not a listed item ; )

ꙮ (map), Wednesday, 12 April 2023 03:33 (one year ago) link

can't sleep, feeling like such a stupid fuck-up. time to move on but the future looks worse. years of twiddling my thumbs, no skills, i hate my career choice but i have no idea what direction to move in.

ꙮ (map), Wednesday, 12 April 2023 04:51 (one year ago) link

boss takes a week vacay, despite assigning no backup to a class he was supposed to be supervising, so we got a frantic email from one of the instructors asking why two days in, no preparation had started yet. because I asked the big boss about it, now I've been asked to take over, because whomever smelt it dealt it.

he also randomly assigned me two classes to 'support' from tomorrow through next Tuesday, without telling me and without giving me any instructions as to what I'm supposed to be doing.

this is all very much inspiration fuel for my interview on Monday.

Cthulhu Diamond Phillips (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 18 April 2023 20:27 (one year ago) link

Ugh, that's obnoxious. Sending all of the good luck vibes for Monday, you'll knock it out of the park.

Feeling completely overwhelmed here now. My boss resigned suddenly about a month ago for a better position (win in the long run, but making the short term hellish) and we've got one key team member out on maternity leave for another few months. Despite constantly acknowledging how short we are, boss's boss (now my boss for the near future) is just cramming through new initiatives and launching new projects left and right. Everyone is super stressed and I can see imminent burnout on a few people as I type, but every meeting starts with, "I know we are all struggling and behind, BUT I'd like to start adding XYZ to our plates...". The disconnect is infuriating.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 18 April 2023 20:36 (one year ago) link

map, wishing you luck in your search for a new job. it sounds like you're stuck with a manager that will always impede your growth so hopefully you'll be able to find less choppy waters elsewhere.

jon, I hate 'acknowledgement culture', where people think acknowledging the problem is sufficient relief for beleaguered employees. that and "gift cards" to thank people for going through needless Hell. I know boss's bosses are often very disconnected from reality and the needs of those on the ground - how well do you know them, are they receptive to feedback or are they more the dismissive type? and is there a search for boss's replacement?

Just wondering if meeting with teammates behind the scenes and then trying to unified present your concerns would be helpful, or if this boss is the more dismissive type? at the very least, they need to answer for what they plan to DO about the fact that you're all struggling/behind.

hope things improve for you all soon!

Cthulhu Diamond Phillips (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 19 April 2023 13:42 (one year ago) link

so re: boss's fuckup this week, it looks like he's trying to frame this as "well, this class's dates weren't finalized so I had no idea when class would start before I went on PTO", which is complete bullshit because you can see in the Tracking Chart's version history that he himself updated the training dates last Monday, indicating a 4/24 start date. Even if these dates weren't final, that should have been enough for him to reach out to the people sponsoring the class and tell them "Reach out to my backup once details are finalized, they will schedule preparation and take care of all of the tasks", and then tell THAT person what they needed to do.

instead he just peaced out and told nobody so now there's like 5 managers working on this. Boss's boss is doing the thing where she's dropping pass agg hints that she may be talking to him about this when he's back, without outright saying so.

Cthulhu Diamond Phillips (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 19 April 2023 13:47 (one year ago) link

re: new job front, it will likely be at least a week or two before I find out the result after I interview (and sometimes there's a second interview). but I think that's fine as I have a really busy May so me starting in a new role in June would be perfect.

Cthulhu Diamond Phillips (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 19 April 2023 13:48 (one year ago) link

good luck!

maf you one two (maffew12), Wednesday, 19 April 2023 13:51 (one year ago) link

xpost - thanks, this particular person is open to talking, but one of those things where you walk out of the office feeling heard but then... nothing. I'm not along in that assessment. I figure I'll take another run if (or when) things calm down a bit, right now I sense some instant defensiveness (like, "I'm doing the best I can!") when certain topics come up. Others have totally noted and expressed frustration with the same thing, but haven't had a chance to discuss broaching it as a team (again, the whole busy thing).

We'll see, it's just been a really stressful few weeks and constantly hearing "I know we're busy but..." is killing me a little each time.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 19 April 2023 14:38 (one year ago) link

"...but what? but what are you gonna do about it? *Flips table with Herculean strength*!"

Cthulhu Diamond Phillips (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 19 April 2023 14:40 (one year ago) link

while they're sitting on it

Cthulhu Diamond Phillips (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 19 April 2023 14:40 (one year ago) link

xp - jon - I think the unified front is a good idea, as well as one of the following:

1. collectively determine what your team feels is possible and comfortable and what you believe the priorities should be, and then framing it as, "helping the boss' boss get a clearer sense of this team that is now their direct responsibility to handle"

2. if your team doesn't have a clear sense of or consensus around it, tell the boss' boss, "As you know, our team is struggling and is feeling a bit overwhelmed right now, what do you see the priorities as right now? We are trying to do all the things, but what are the (pick a small number) of things that are crucial?"

sarahell, Thursday, 20 April 2023 14:49 (one year ago) link

I have a tendency to end up in positions where I'm having to quickly fix problems that former leaders/managers have made (who have either quit or been fired) as well as ... fixing messes in general, so I can kinda relate to the boss' boss position? Maybe? But like, having a good sense of what and whom I'm working with, what resources I have available ... really helps save time and energy from a "new" manager perspective. ... Unless the person is an arrogant asshole who just wants to impose their perception of reality on everyone because "that's how things should be"

sarahell, Thursday, 20 April 2023 14:55 (one year ago) link

is this manager the type of person who will forget all of the things they've assigned you and won't notice if some things aren't finished when they asked?

(cos if so, that's always an idea...lol).

Cthulhu Diamond Phillips (Neanderthal), Thursday, 20 April 2023 15:02 (one year ago) link

Yeah, I mean I'm sympathetic to the boss' boss also being in a rough position with the relatively abrupt departure at a bad time of year, but there's just no effort to communicate with us, it's just add to the pile, add to the pile, add to the pile. I brought it up lightly and delicately in my last one on one, just to get it out there and test the waters, but the boss' boss immediately switched to a defensive mode that really wasn't productive, so I didn't push it.

Trying to work on the united front thing but it's hard, as a result of the increased workload we are hardly ever in the same together at the same time, much less even schedule time to talk.

I mean, I get it and anticipated this transition period to be a struggle and a little rocky, I just think a productive discussion about the realities would be helpful for all of us. Like, the boss' boss is ultimately the one who looks bad when things fall through the crack, so you'd think they'd want to have a grasp on what feels reasonable.

Yeah, there are definitely some minor things that aren't ultimately important anyway that fall by the wayside, but not enough to make my plate feel any lighter.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 20 April 2023 15:04 (one year ago) link

that's kinda what I was thinking in a way ... like, if you have a tacit agreement about what things are the most important, then the other things, if you drop the ball and just pass the buck without acrimony ... the "without acrimony" part is key tho, because otherwise you end up with circular firing squad of "well, B didn't do that," and "Oh, you're one to talk, C, you didn't do that other thing."

sarahell, Thursday, 20 April 2023 15:07 (one year ago) link

I feel like managers in general get tunnel vision with their stress rather than 'sharing' the stress with the people below who are also impacted (probably moreso) and turning it more into a team-building opportunity.

one results in everybody being unhappy, the latter results in reduction of stress and finding solutions

Cthulhu Diamond Phillips (Neanderthal), Thursday, 20 April 2023 15:07 (one year ago) link

sarahell otm.

Cthulhu Diamond Phillips (Neanderthal), Thursday, 20 April 2023 15:08 (one year ago) link

I just think a productive discussion about the realities would be helpful for all of us. Like, the boss' boss is ultimately the one who looks bad when things fall through the crack, so you'd think they'd want to have a grasp on what feels reasonable.

exactly! no one enjoys failure. So ... let's figure out a way to not fail by being realistic.

sarahell, Thursday, 20 April 2023 15:09 (one year ago) link

Yeah, sarahell definitely otm, the difficulty lies in that working in an academia serving capacity, it can get really tricky to navigate which ones might or might not come back to bite you in the ass. Definitely run into a few cases of someone casually asking me for something and adding, "but only if you get a chance, it's totally understandable if you don't have time now" turn into two weeks later an email to senior leadership about how their request was being "ignored".

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 20 April 2023 15:12 (one year ago) link

oh! that's really great ... ugh

sarahell, Thursday, 20 April 2023 15:18 (one year ago) link

ultimately the goal at work should be to accomplish a task, and when something doesn't go according to plan, to figure out what happened and if it's preventable next time. actually casting blame at an individual should only be a secondary necessity, where in the course of investigating what happened, a significant gaffe or performance issue was identified.

but with wages being flat alongside inflation and growing living expenses and the 'at-will' states many people live in, not to mention the hair-trigger tempers of Executives, I think many employees have sort of been conditioned into a "point fingers first to get the heat off of me" type work environment. (note I'm not excusing this behavior - management and leaders exist so they can create a culture of trust so people DON'T do this backstabby shit - but they themselves are often just as guilty of this if not more!).

Cthulhu Diamond Phillips (Neanderthal), Thursday, 20 April 2023 16:41 (one year ago) link

Oh it definitely happens a lot, particularly when you get into the complicated relationships that evolve once you have contractors, owner's reps, architects, engineers and others all doing their thing. Fortunately I learned this lesson very early on in my career and I've gotten to be really good at documentation and keeping the receipts.

One of the perks is watching someone shrivel down after their ill-considered finger pointing attempt is stymied by literally one email I've kept.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 20 April 2023 16:50 (one year ago) link

yeah that's somethign I had to learn very early on. sigh....corporate America!

Cthulhu Diamond Phillips (Neanderthal), Thursday, 20 April 2023 16:59 (one year ago) link

right now I'm having to deal with what is pretty obviously prejudiced behavior by a class of learners towards an Indian trainer. sadly, although this was my class to supervise, I couldn't for the majority of the last two weeks as they double booked me to lead my own class the first week of April, and I was on PTO all but one day last week, so I had a backup watching (who reported no issues). The other instructor had noticed this and had a message ready to send to me and deleted it (which I wish they wouldn't have).

they basically treat the other instructor differently, going completely silent during activities she leads, not participating, getting side tracked, spending time complaining that they don't get it in chat. and half of them are going behind the instructor's back to the other to ask why she couldn't just train the whole class herself and creating a secret chat to badtalk the BI.

of course I am on PTO tomorrow and simply don't have time to unpack it all today but have a meeting set up next week and am currently working on addressing the behavior going forward. but why are people like this. our company is more progressive than most so this isn't something I expected to see.

Cthulhu Diamond Phillips (Neanderthal), Thursday, 20 April 2023 17:18 (one year ago) link

had to give constructive feedback to a trainer from last week. I schedule it for yesterday, they accept it. Time for meeting arrives, they don't show, and aren't even online. Manager tells me after the fact they called out sick, but didn't tell me so I could reschedule. Asks me to reschedule for today.

Today, I reschedule it, and she's here and working and accepts, and then right as meeting is supposed to start, again goes afk, and then when I ping her to ask if she's joining, logs off.

not rescheduling a third time, you can just read the feedback via email then. this is someone who tends to melt down with even the mildest feedback too , which is a shame, because it's nothing earth-shattering here.

Cthulhu Diamond Phillips (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 26 April 2023 18:25 (one year ago) link

I think I mentioned itt that the person who I had been reporting to for all five years I've been here left for another job, kind of out of the blue. On the whole, it's a net win because the guy was not great for any number of reasons. However, the one good thing he was doing was including me in some bigger picture planning exercises, something I've been hoping to do and reinforcing in my reviews and one on ones and was kind of a big reason why I took this job in the first place.

Anyway, I had hoped his departure and the wait for his replacement might be a good time to take on more of these responsibilities and prove my worth. I approached the head of our department about it and she was a little vague, but gave some encouraging feedback about wanting to use this time as a chance to completely rethink our department and get me into more of the role I wanted to grow into. I was feeling cautiously optimistic and glad to know we were going to use this change in leadership to rethink some things.

Well, I don't know what the fuck happened in the week and a half after that conversation. Earlier this week she (the head of our department) announced his replacement and that nothing would change, in fact she used the phrase "plug and play" four times in a 15-minute announcement as to how he would slot in exactly into our existing system as-is. I get that it's the path of least resistance from her end, but it was so depressing to know we'd be squandering a good opportunity to rethink some things.

So I approached her again about wanting to take on more of this other role and was essentially told, "yes, I think that would be a great fit for you and I really want you to take that on, but I can't afford to lose you in the position your in right now". Really hard not to read that as, "I know you'd be a better fit in a larger role, but it's more convenient for me that you stay exactly where you are, fuck your career development". Funny that she is worried about losing me in this position, because effectively telling me I have zero chance for advancement is ultimately going to result in that anyway - and definitely in a less beneficial way.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 28 April 2023 15:51 (one year ago) link

ugh, I'm sorry dude, that is the worst thing asshole managers do.

"I need you here" is such bullshit. If your department is that fragile that someone advancing to a higher position would wreck it, then you don't have a functioning department.

Cthulhu Diamond Phillips (Neanderthal), Friday, 28 April 2023 15:58 (one year ago) link

We definitely don't. Our department is running on about a third of the staff we had 5 years ago and about a quarter of what we actually need to successfully handle the volume of work we have, but she gets to look good by running her department cheaply on a shoestring budget.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 28 April 2023 16:01 (one year ago) link

Even setting aside the personal sting of it, I just don't get that attitude as a manager. Like how the fuck do you think that encourages the best work out your team or encourages long term retention when you flat out tell your staff, "it's easier on me if you just stay where you are and never grow, so I'm going to make sure you don't". Like how does that even cross someone's mind as a good strategy, long term?

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 28 April 2023 16:07 (one year ago) link

sometimes the only thing that speaks volumes is when the work starts to suffer. not that I'm suggesting sabotage or anything, but if deadlines start being missed because people no longer bend over backwards and kill themselves to ensure they're met - then suddenly the manager gets questioned.

Cthulhu Diamond Phillips (Neanderthal), Friday, 28 April 2023 16:10 (one year ago) link

xpost 95% of managers shouldn't be managers, full stop. probably half of them do it because of the power it gives them, the ability to boss people around, be unaccountable to the same rules as everybody else, and take more time off. others were just chasing a bigger paycheck and instantly regretted the decision, and then take their misery out on their direct reports.

That leaves the small sliver of managers that are truly great at what they do, and those managers get laid off or fired because they actually challenge their bosses on things and aren't willing to sacrifice their employees' happiness for the job. so leadership fires them and replaces them with the other 95% of people who will.

Cthulhu Diamond Phillips (Neanderthal), Friday, 28 April 2023 16:11 (one year ago) link

That all checks out. It sucks to have it confirmed in such a blatant way though.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 28 April 2023 16:23 (one year ago) link

yeah. I'm sorry dude :(

you deserve a shot at loftier things, not to be stifled by the person who's supposed to help further your career.

Cthulhu Diamond Phillips (Neanderthal), Friday, 28 April 2023 16:25 (one year ago) link

"Why iSN'T ANYonE loyAL AnYMore?"

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 28 April 2023 16:46 (one year ago) link

exactly, fuck that canard.

Cthulhu Diamond Phillips (Neanderthal), Friday, 28 April 2023 18:53 (one year ago) link

I totally took advantage of my boss's disorganization this week, lol.

I bought tickets late last year to see Helloween on 5/16 in St Pete. It's on a Tuesday, and St Pete is 2.5 hours away. I didn't initially request a PTO day as I'd already taken a ton in May, assumed since I don't teach many classes these days I could just leave work early that day, and figured I could revisit taking PTO as I got closer.

Two weeks ago, I figured "I should probably take a half day", only to find out they signed me up to lead a Train the Trainer class with a buddy that day. While I could have the buddy take the second half of the day, more often than not, the enrollments usually get so large that we wind up splitting the class in two, so very good chance I'll be solo that day, meaning not getting out until 5:30 and possibly getting out of my house real late. FUCK.

so then last week, I go back in and start thinking about how I can possibly arrange it with my buddy to get out an hour early, but now the schedule's changed! Now I'm no longer leading on 5/16, boss has moved me to other days later in the month, and replaced me with someone else! Hooray. so I write in the half day PTO and send the appropriate notification, boom, done.

Two days later, boss decided to change his mind and put me back in the class. But now has noticed I have PTO and begrudgingly has to allow it because the schedule was clear when I requested it and the head of dept has already blessed it.

boo-yah.

Cthulhu Diamond Phillips (Neanderthal), Friday, 28 April 2023 19:02 (one year ago) link

(for most other classes, if you had a desire to take PTO and they'd booked you wayyyy in advance to lead something, they'd just find someone else. this is just one of those weird ones that only 4 of us know how to teach).

Cthulhu Diamond Phillips (Neanderthal), Friday, 28 April 2023 19:12 (one year ago) link

I wish that career advancement was possible for me. Looks like I’m going back to school. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Friday, 28 April 2023 22:51 (one year ago) link

For the past couple years I have told people (not just a few people, but like, almost everyone who could possible care to know) that my days of managing small arts non-profits are done. Over. Finished. 20 years of service completed. Now I am going to do other things, because let me tell you, the skills that you gain managing small arts non-profits ... those are some really valuable skills that can apply to many other careers that generally pay way more and have less chaotic hours. Several months ago there was an opening for an Executive Director position at an arts org in San Francisco that I had actually been the "Interim Executive Director" (aka emergency repair person) for 12 years ago. And people were saying, "You should apply!" And I said, no. No. Thank you for saying such nice things about me, but no.

Anyway, guess what I am going to do again ... yep, once again, part-time management of struggling small arts nonprofit ... in Oakland. So, at least it doesn't involve commuting to San Francisco. But, I am feeling anxious and tired already, and I want this to be something that someone else takes over a year from now... but, tbh, it's also exciting and potentially fun, and I can incorporate some of the other things that I've wanted to do professionally into this position, so maybe it's not that bad?

sarahell, Saturday, 29 April 2023 18:05 (one year ago) link

oh but to address the thread topic -- the former Executive Director (who is a friend) will now be Co-Director with me -- she moved to NYC last summer, so it would be a problem if she were to remain Executive Director, so we are Co-Directors ... anyway there's history, because I actually have worked for this org before in various capacities ...

sarahell, Saturday, 29 April 2023 18:09 (one year ago) link

congrats! sounds like something you'll be good at, even if it's for a temporary time as you suggest. always good to find positions you can bring your own creativity into and impart your own personality upon.

Cthulhu Diamond Phillips (Neanderthal), Saturday, 29 April 2023 18:32 (one year ago) link

thank you! i worry that i'm too old

sarahell, Saturday, 29 April 2023 23:28 (one year ago) link

NEVER

Cthulhu Diamond Phillips (Neanderthal), Sunday, 30 April 2023 00:19 (one year ago) link

Sounds pretty awesome, sarahell. Congrats! Also, there's surely some stress relief in knowing it's temporary (even if that temporary is a year).

But who are we doing it versus? (sunny successor), Monday, 1 May 2023 18:12 (one year ago) link

Congratulations! Sounds like a great gig.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 1 May 2023 18:14 (one year ago) link

thank you all ... i am scared.

sarahell, Tuesday, 2 May 2023 11:13 (one year ago) link

That means it matters to you, which means you’ll do a good job.

assert (matttkkkk), Tuesday, 2 May 2023 12:15 (one year ago) link

good luck sarahell, I'm sure you'll do great!

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 2 May 2023 13:46 (one year ago) link

I was asked to update a Powerpoint to capture the instructions for a new virtual server, and about 10-15 other things. I didn't write the original Powerpoint, which has existed for three years.

Made all these changes only for the assigner to come back and request 30 more things completely unrelated to the original request that she left off the first time, as well as asking me to do things I already did.

thinking of a way to politely say "uhm...how about you update them, since I worked hours on this and you left them off the first time"

Qeq-hauau-ent-pehui (Neanderthal), Thursday, 11 May 2023 18:49 (one year ago) link

actually nah, I decided to shelve it til Monday, whether htey like it or not. no reply needed...just not going to work on it.

Qeq-hauau-ent-pehui (Neanderthal), Thursday, 11 May 2023 19:02 (one year ago) link

Made all these changes only for the assigner to come back and request 30 more things completely unrelated to the original request that she left off the first time, as well as asking me to do things I already did.

this is a lol:sob scenario that I deal with on a regular basis

sarahell, Thursday, 11 May 2023 19:11 (one year ago) link

xp - probably the best move for your mental health, wish I was better at just putting stuff like that off because if I've learned anything in my career, it's that jumping on other people's out of the blue requests that shouldn't be your responsibility does not mean praise and recognition for you, it means even more things flung at you and praise and recognition for them

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 11 May 2023 19:13 (one year ago) link

Xpost Lol in my old job, I used to have people in this one department do this to me all the time - until I went to the department head and complained and she told her team to stop doing this.

Person who did it to me today is the boss's boss who I'm friends with and all I can think is "she misremembered asking me to rewrite the PowerPoint as opposed to just capturing specific changes"

Qeq-hauau-ent-pehui (Neanderthal), Thursday, 11 May 2023 19:18 (one year ago) link

Xpost yeah exactly. Hell they might even forget about it

Qeq-hauau-ent-pehui (Neanderthal), Thursday, 11 May 2023 19:18 (one year ago) link

lol apparently some of these items were requested in emails in a separate thread from the original thread assigning me the work, so basically there were three separate threads about the same one assignment and I was supposed to keep all that together while missing 12 of 16 hours on Monday/Tuesday due to dad being in hospital (which they knew). lolz....

Qeq-hauau-ent-pehui (Neanderthal), Thursday, 11 May 2023 19:31 (one year ago) link

three weeks pass...

my boss was better at his job before he was my boss.

next week he has me leading a class solo, at the same time he wants me to supervise two classes, and prep another. the only day I'm not teaching one is Monday. I told him there's no way, esp since the BIs in India usually take cabs to and from the office at specific times that they pre-book so I can't meet with them before or after class. true, I didn't bring it up until now, but I was on vacation until yesterday and before I left for vacay, I was supposed to have a partner to teach it w/ me, which didn't materialize.

i feel like my boss's boss keeps secretly taking him aside and giving him feedback cos some of his aloofness is impacting her too.

the manwich horror (Neanderthal), Thursday, 1 June 2023 15:08 (eleven months ago) link

Ugh, it's like something about turning into a boss, or getting more "boss" responsibilities just makes people worse.

Not really a complaint about a specific person, but there's been this really weird and stark turn over the past month or so at my place of employment. Not internal to my department, but whenever I reach out to people/teams in other departments, I'm surprised by how often I've been met recently with defensiveness, antagonism or sometimes outright hostility. It had gotten to the point where I was really second guessing nearly every communication I sent out, wondering if I was somehow unconsciously shaping this sort of response and kept coming up blank. It was a relief to finally catch up with a few other people in my department yesterday and learn they've been experiencing the same exact thing. My suspicion is that it all comes back to my recently departed boss, who treated other people with such scorn and insane, conspiratorial accusations that he's tainted our entire team by association. While it's good to know it wasn't just me and I wasn't somehow inadvertently pissing people off, it sucks to feel like I'm spending half my time "fighting" with people ostensibly on the same team as me and working towards a common goal.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 1 June 2023 18:16 (eleven months ago) link

it sucks to feel like I'm spending half my time "fighting" with people ostensibly on the same team as me and working towards a common goal.

ugh, yeah ... that feeling sucks and i've been dealing with that too. my coworker has been the main one dealing with it, as relatively early on in this project, the leader of the project (who works for the client that hired us) didn't want me involved too much in it ... my suspicion (and my coworker's) is that the reason was because i'm "in finance" and know enough about her work that i could be "a threat" or "a challenge" ... and I was like, "hey, okay, I'll hang back, no problem." ... this was a couple years ago, and recently, there are problems and defensiveness and complaints about "underperforming" being leveled at my coworker by the project leader and ... her leadership is contributing to the problems. Like, her decisions are making his job harder. And ... last week, I had to do some spreadsheet stuff for the project (which included reviewing stuff that she had done) and ... she is also "underperforming" (in that there are some obvious mistakes in her work, and things that she could have explained much more clearly that she didn't that led to delays, etc) ... but I'm like, "Let's just cut everyone on this project a lot of slack because we are doing something complicated and unusual and we all are learning as we go. The fact we've even gotten this far is amazing."

sarahell, Thursday, 1 June 2023 23:55 (eleven months ago) link

xp There is substantial research that having power reduces people's ability to empathize with others. It makes actual physiological changes in our brain chemistry.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 2 June 2023 00:06 (eleven months ago) link

what kind of power are you talking about?

sarahell, Friday, 2 June 2023 14:08 (eleven months ago) link

Having authority over others. Having high status. Being a "boss."

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/neuroscience-in-everyday-life/202006/the-brain-under-the-influence-power

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 2 June 2023 16:02 (eleven months ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/7ot9XuN.jpg

serving bundt (sic), Friday, 2 June 2023 16:03 (eleven months ago) link

my boss and I had a 1 on 1 where he had nothing short of wonderful things to say about how I was essentially the unofficial third manager of the team (I'd say 'pay me' except as he pointed out weirdly, I make more than him...lol).

I am triple booked this week (due to him, as previously pointed out), so I decided to get creative. I wake up early to record my prep sessions for my trainees training next week (who have both done this before), and ask them to reach out with any questions after watching. I'm recording bits and pieces of the classes I'm supposed to be supervising so I can watch them later for observation. and then of course I'm teaching all day. (all this while dad's in the hospital still - ugh).

so of fucking course a complaint about one of the facilitators comes in today. I can't possibly handle that while teaching a class so I forwarded it to my manager with an email that basically said "enjoy, this is your problem" in clouded business-speak. look I can be creative as anybody but I'm not THAT good at multi-tasking.

the manwich horror (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 7 June 2023 12:57 (eleven months ago) link

in one of my classes, they replaced the lead facilitator twice, giving me only Monday to get the new person ready to go before class started Tuesday. lol

the manwich horror (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 7 June 2023 13:00 (eleven months ago) link

my co-worker is supposed to be on vacation this week. it's much easier to deal with an unresponsive co-worker when they are supposed to be on vacation and not expected to respond.

sarahell, Wednesday, 7 June 2023 18:28 (eleven months ago) link

an instructor and a learner are both accusing each other of being rude and both insisting the class agreed with them that they were right.

we are officially back in 4th grade.

(in this case though, we did further digging, and the learner appears to be a toxic person who disrupts proceedings any time they don't like something, then goes scampering to their manager when they get asked to stop)

the manwich horror (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 13 June 2023 18:49 (eleven months ago) link

Emailed my department chair three times about the same issue, a somewhat urgent one for me as it regards class load and pay in the fall, and haven’t received a response. One email in April, one in May, and another last Friday.

I am going to text him this Friday, but feel as if that, too, will be ignored.

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Tuesday, 13 June 2023 21:40 (eleven months ago) link

send an email with return receipt, and then an email with the subject "If you reject the return receipt request and read this email and ignore it, I will swallow your soul (EOM)" and no body

the manwich horror (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 13 June 2023 21:53 (eleven months ago) link

there is a dark comedy to be made about this one place I started working (again) ...

sarahell, Wednesday, 14 June 2023 06:03 (eleven months ago) link

i've read a couple fiction books about office culture/life that feel like are inspired to similar workplaces to some of y'all (currently reading And Then We Came To the End)

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 14 June 2023 13:24 (eleven months ago) link

we should make a movie that only 3 of us would appreciate about this

the manwich horror (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 14 June 2023 16:27 (eleven months ago) link

got asked to give feedback on a set of modules, said I probably couldn't get to it (because I'm slammed), so they of course extended deadline rather than just use the feedback of the other two.

well, I'm glad they did because the other reviewers let two quiz questions with COMPLETELY INCORRECT answers listed go by without a single note.

the manwich horror (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 14 June 2023 16:28 (eleven months ago) link

i get one person missing something but how did two people?

the manwich horror (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 14 June 2023 16:28 (eleven months ago) link

xp lol -- my best friend works in that capacity for a large corporation (designing courseware and tests to evaluate/assess competence) and -- from what he tells me, the fact that two people missed it is ... lol "par for the course"

sarahell, Wednesday, 14 June 2023 17:00 (eleven months ago) link

also quizzes/test questions that are stupid and badly written that numerous people who are his bosses don't grasp are "not good"

sarahell, Wednesday, 14 June 2023 17:01 (eleven months ago) link

no one cares and if the trainees fuck up by following the course literally, management will either never notice or put it on them, despite the fact they were trained wrong

the game remains the same, it’s not like we’re training the C-suite and even if you did, they’d just fire you if they fucked up something where you trained them correctly

a bit cynical this week, sorry

mh, Thursday, 15 June 2023 03:49 (ten months ago) link

someone will inevitably decide it's crucial that the wheel get reinvented in a year or two

sarahell, Thursday, 15 June 2023 06:28 (ten months ago) link

IRS changed the regulations for withholding changes for ongoing Pension annuity payments this year. I updated our training guide for facilitators to change the exercises to incorporate this, spent a lot of time doing it.

someone randomly posted a new version of this guide a month ago that completely reverted every single one of my changes, which I only found out today as they started to go over this section.

i swear to god....

the manwich horror (Neanderthal), Friday, 16 June 2023 13:32 (ten months ago) link

i got to hear more from my friend about his stupid annoying co-workers in training/accreditation -- and you are not alone ...

sarahell, Sunday, 18 June 2023 15:57 (ten months ago) link

still no response from my department chair

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Sunday, 18 June 2023 16:15 (ten months ago) link

wish them happy father's day lol

sarahell, Sunday, 18 June 2023 17:06 (ten months ago) link

I’m texting his personal number tomorrow. I think there may be some political stuff happening in the department to which I’m not privy, and which might be keeping him otherwise occupied.

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Sunday, 18 June 2023 19:04 (ten months ago) link

that's probably true ... it's the classic "I don't know what to tell you, so I am not responding" tactic that is characteristic of bureaucratic cultures everywhere

sarahell, Sunday, 18 June 2023 19:11 (ten months ago) link

i just took the most massive detour out of work, a really laborious long route round, to avoid bumping into the CEO and a consultant who i could see further down the way. as a consequence of this ended up also having to wait by the corner of a building “checking my phone” to avoid some other not really that stupid or annoying co-workers with whom i’d just said i couldn’t go out for a drink due to needing to get home (a lie, i just didn’t want to go).

being an adult is grebt

Fizzles, Thursday, 22 June 2023 16:51 (ten months ago) link

I do that all the time w/ neighbors I don't want to get caught up in a chat with

henry s, Thursday, 22 June 2023 16:54 (ten months ago) link

live on a terrace so you just tend to bump into each other. one of them is an extremely colourless man who keeps ambushing me with v moribund conversation as if we’re stuck at a wedding or funeral. the other side is fine. we talked about shoes just yesterday.

Fizzles, Thursday, 22 June 2023 17:06 (ten months ago) link

want to hear from table how it went with the chair!

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 22 June 2023 17:54 (ten months ago) link

are we all sitting down for this?

sarahell, Thursday, 22 June 2023 17:57 (ten months ago) link

he's probably got a lot on his plate.

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 22 June 2023 17:58 (ten months ago) link

i hope they finally folded

ꙮ (map), Thursday, 22 June 2023 18:10 (ten months ago) link

He apologized and then told me I was correct about a department debate that took place earlier this year. I’m still trying to find a way to not teach there this fall.

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Thursday, 22 June 2023 23:47 (ten months ago) link

knives out?

sarahell, Friday, 23 June 2023 16:59 (ten months ago) link

Minor complaint because he's an otherwise great guy so far, but a relatively new person in our office is the sloooooooooooooooooooowest talker.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 23 June 2023 17:06 (ten months ago) link

oh geeeeeez, there was a guy like that who was the property manager/super at one of our client sites (he still is, I think, but I am not involved in that project in the same capacity as I was 2 years ago) ... between him and my extremely verbose co-worker, every conversation took way longer than I felt necessary.

sarahell, Friday, 23 June 2023 17:49 (ten months ago) link

Yeah, every time he comes over to ask a question I know there's 15 minutes of my day gone.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 23 June 2023 17:57 (ten months ago) link

meanwhile, at another job, they received grant funding so that they can pay volunteers to staff/manage events at the space, which is good because they've always had trouble retaining good volunteers. Paying people helps with retention.

One of the volunteers who was feeling burnt out suddenly, with the promise of pay, is more enthusiastic to work on events. I'll call this volunteer, Volunteer A.
When news circulated about this grant funding and event volunteers getting paid, a volunteer who had quit last fall, Volunteer B, suddenly resurfaces and says, "I would be willing to come back and work events if I got paid." ... Volunteer B had been paid last summer for some events work.

And of course, the reason for posting this, is that Volunteer A and Volunteer B don't get along ... or if they do, it's totally surface-level, because they shit-talk one another to me. Volunteer B believes that Volunteer A is incompetent and irresponsible. Volunteer A believes that Volunteer B is "not all that" and exaggerates their degree of skill and value, and is also mean.

They are both adults. It reminds me that adults often exhibit "childish" behavior.

sarahell, Friday, 23 June 2023 18:15 (ten months ago) link

Yeah, while I've always encountered adults that act like children over the years, I've run into a significantly higher number of them since working in an academia adjacent job.

Meanwhile, I've now had the same coworker twice call me when I'm in a meeting, leave no voicemail and immediately text me to call him "as soon as I possibly can". Both times when I've called him back, it was to tell me that he is about to send me an email.

Good grief, just send me the damned email.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 23 June 2023 19:06 (ten months ago) link

it makes me wonder how they have been trained/cultured to communicate like that? As in, why don't they just send the email? Is it a weird thing about this one person or is there some culture where their behavior is the norm?

sarahell, Friday, 23 June 2023 19:18 (ten months ago) link

Volunteer A will text me asking for my advice about what to say in emails to other people about things that I am not actually involved in and aren't really "my problem" ... and I'm nice about it, like, I don't want to be an asshole, but ... unless it's some highly fraught issue or something technical or legal where specific wording and phrasing are actually crucial? ... Why can't people just write their own damn emails and send them like nbd ... idgi

sarahell, Friday, 23 June 2023 19:21 (ten months ago) link

It's certainly not a cultural thing that I've encountered here, maybe he brought it from an old job. And neither time was like he was trying to give me a heads up about bad news, both times they were just informational emails. It's weird.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 23 June 2023 19:25 (ten months ago) link

it would drive me up the wall ... i would end up doing the thing where i would ignore communication from this person except for the actual emails, and then only respond to those. ... as in, if that was my preferred mode of communication and the most productive form of communication.

sarahell, Friday, 23 June 2023 19:29 (ten months ago) link

that call to alert a forthcoming (?!) email thing is insane

I learned that some coworkers prefer if you mention you're going to invite them to a meeting and that's a new one to me? Just schedule it at a sane time and put enough info in the invite for me to draw a conclusion of why I'm being invited and what's going to be discussed

mh, Friday, 23 June 2023 20:08 (ten months ago) link

unless they are asking you if you'd prefer not to be invited? otherwise, yeah ... though, my co-worker has his google calendar set up so that he automatically accepts all invitations to meetings ... and my view of his calendar doesn't show what the meetings are ... it just shows the times and "busy" ... so in reality, I have no idea whether he is actually attending a meeting, only that someone invited him to something that it is highly possible he didn't even look at because of the automation.

sarahell, Friday, 23 June 2023 20:12 (ten months ago) link

he also has "recurring meetings" that actually don't happen, which I have to cognitively pretend aren't on the calendar ... like he had a recurring weekly meeting with a city official who was fired about a year ago ... he does not have a recurring meeting with the current person in that position ... the meeting is still on his calendar!

sarahell, Friday, 23 June 2023 20:13 (ten months ago) link

at that point, yeah, just contact him any time

mh, Friday, 23 June 2023 20:16 (ten months ago) link

it's more like, someone will ask me if he is available to do something at a specific time and I will have to honestly say I have no fucking idea what his schedule is!

sarahell, Friday, 23 June 2023 20:21 (ten months ago) link

Things had been fine for awhile with this relatively recent hire (for the record, she is exactly the same position and title as me), but lately she's been back to her method of firing off directives to me as if she's my boss. Never framed as a question or a conversation, just emails where she directs me to meet with people (on her behalf, for her projects, because she can't for one reason or another) and copies in a ton of people, including my actual boss. It's not that I mind helping her out and often times I'm able to step in to offer some assistance, but her tone and commands are pissing me the fuck off.

Today's specific example was an email, sent to me, copied to fifteen other people saying, essentially, "since you will be in this building on your project, I need you to stop by and walk this other area and report back to me on the scope". No ask, no framing it as a question, just a command.

I'm torn on how to deal with this without coming across as whining about it. Had this been delivered to me as an in person, friendly ask, it's not a completely unreasonable request to the point where my boss would object to the use of my time. It's just the tone that really pisses me off, it feels really belittling and disrespectful.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 27 June 2023 19:39 (ten months ago) link

so ... wait ... is this her job that she is asking you to do for her ... ?

sarahell, Tuesday, 27 June 2023 19:43 (ten months ago) link

Essentially, yes. In this case an issue popped up related to one of the projects she is managing. Since I'm going to be in the area of her project tomorrow, for a completely unrelated project of my own, she sent an email telling me (and copying in all of our outside contractors involved in her project) to meet with her team, walk the project and get back to her with the scope of the issue.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 27 June 2023 19:46 (ten months ago) link

Obviously you need to tit-for-tat this shit ASAP. Find something you can shove onto her plate and do it.

but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 27 June 2023 20:31 (ten months ago) link

Don't be petty about it — do it in the exact same tone she uses with you, like "OK, if this is how things work now, here's one for you."

but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 27 June 2023 20:31 (ten months ago) link

I like that idea, but she's kind of got me stuck on this one. I could just send something to her to do, but I'm nearly 100% certain she would just sit on it to make me look bad. To make the tit-for-tat have any teeth, I'd have to copy in several of the same people she copied on her email to me and I fear that would just come across as petty (especially to my actual boss).

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 27 June 2023 21:07 (ten months ago) link

Check and mate.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 27 June 2023 21:12 (ten months ago) link

Just say "since this is your project, that is outside the scope of my position."

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Wednesday, 28 June 2023 00:46 (ten months ago) link

then fart on her

sad Mings of dynasty (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 28 June 2023 00:47 (ten months ago) link

Probably email her and your boss back and say that you are occupied with what’s on your plate (if you can get away with the embellishment) and ask that going forward, next time she needs you doing her job for her that she request your assistance directly instead of a mass email.

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 28 June 2023 01:17 (ten months ago) link

To go back to the question, I would just tell her that you find her tone belittling and disrespectful. I did this recently with a colleague who felt justified in cussing me out. He apologized--sincerely, I think--and we moved on.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 28 June 2023 01:24 (ten months ago) link

i actually found it fairly shocking how effective the direct approach can be when I did so in similar circumstances (well, in MY situation - mileage may vary). mostly because in this day and age people are used to people just taking whatever is flung at them without resistance, so they thrive on people not standing up and saying "no!".

sad Mings of dynasty (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 28 June 2023 01:26 (ten months ago) link

Nowhere in anyone's job description does it say "taking abuse."

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 28 June 2023 01:33 (ten months ago) link

ot-fucking-m

sad Mings of dynasty (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 28 June 2023 01:34 (ten months ago) link

Essentially, yes. In this case an issue popped up related to one of the projects she is managing. Since I'm going to be in the area of her project tomorrow, for a completely unrelated project of my own, she sent an email telling me (and copying in all of our outside contractors involved in her project) to meet with her team, walk the project and get back to her with the scope of the issue.

― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, June 27, 2023 12:46 PM (nine hours ago)

the pass-agg way would be to say: You know, as I am not the lead on this project, I worry that my sense of the scope (and any changes that might be required based on my walkthrough) would not be as useful as if you were to do this yourself. As I, too, have a lot of projects to manager, I am concerned that I don't have time to do a comprehensive read of what has already been planned/done on this project, and might miss some key detail.

sarahell, Wednesday, 28 June 2023 05:49 (ten months ago) link

personally a mail to your manager and hers just checking whether or not your work/time was to be directed by this person or whether you were to continue on as planned with your own manager

then ignore the multi cc mail

Ár an broc a mhic (darraghmac), Wednesday, 28 June 2023 06:42 (ten months ago) link

Thanks, I think I might try the direct approach with her, or at least give it a run. A mutual coworker allegedly approached her about a similar thing earlier this year (though I wasn't around to know what was said/expressed) and apparently her response was along the lines of, "I don't care how other people receive my tone, I'm here to do my job".

For some added context, she has, on multiple occasions, self-described as "a climber" and frequently leads off conversations with, "when I lead this department". Fwiw, she's been here for just over a year and there have been zero indications that she is soon in line for any sort of management position, I think she is just one of those people that views every single interaction through the lens of, "how do I use this person to forward my career?". Unfortunately my recently departed boss thought intra-office strife was funny and "good for getting results" so he never spoke up when she said things like this. So far I get the vibe that my new boss isn't going to have the patience for that and might eventually tell her to curb it, but we're still in early days.

Ultimately, I'm also just here to do my job, but I don't need to deal with someone whose approach is "act like you've already got the job you want" and doesn't really care about the people she's pissing off along the way.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 28 June 2023 16:31 (ten months ago) link

in that case, I would approach her in a more straightforward "realpolitik" way ... obv I am me, and you are not me, but, if it were me (and I've honestly been in this situation before) I would say (maybe have a one on one with her) --

Look, I am willing to have your back and cover for you because in order for things to work well (which I am committed to), we have to work together. But the thing is, I am more willing to go out of my way for you, if you acknowledge that I am, in fact, going out of my way for you. I could be passive-aggressive and throw you under the bus, and ask for authorization from my supervisor to take on your workload, which will definitely delay you getting what you need, right? And more than that, this could make it look like you aren't capable of doing your job. I don't think you want people to think you aren't capable of doing your job. But I don't want to be an asshole and do that. I really don't. I want to see you move up the ladder, as it seems like you want to do, right? And, if you are willing to be respectful of me, and acknowledge when I'm doing you a solid, then I will totally support you moving forward.

sarahell, Wednesday, 28 June 2023 16:51 (ten months ago) link

xp Such people are generally a cancer and more often than not will self-sabotage.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 28 June 2023 16:55 (ten months ago) link

I would probably spend a lot of time plotting how to sink said colleague. You absolutely should not stand for that and make it as spectacular a bomb drop as possible.

horizontal, Wednesday, 28 June 2023 22:53 (ten months ago) link

Unfortunately my recently departed boss thought intra-office strife was funny and "good for getting results"


Eugh definitely seems like this person wouldn’t have been hired if non-toxic work culture was a concern with management

brimstead, Wednesday, 28 June 2023 23:04 (ten months ago) link

four of us are working on making revisions to our instructor introduction guide to ensure it's accurate for 2023 and make it more palatable for new instructors.

we were all asked to give our written feedback, which we did. Assumed that person leading this project would read all the feedback, make updates they understood/agreed with, and set a follow-up meeting to go over any feedback they were on the fence about or don't understand.

No, instead, he didn't read it at all, and we're going item by item and discussing them in real time, and then waiting while he makes the adjustments in the doc in real time.

Sooooo boring. hence why I'm reading here in the truckloads of space between items

sad Mings of dynasty (Neanderthal), Thursday, 29 June 2023 17:26 (ten months ago) link

Unfortunately my recently departed boss thought intra-office strife was funny and "good for getting results"

This has to be among the top three Bad Boss Types.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 29 June 2023 17:28 (ten months ago) link

"anger = passion!!!111!!"

sad Mings of dynasty (Neanderthal), Thursday, 29 June 2023 17:29 (ten months ago) link

Eugh definitely seems like this person wouldn’t have been hired if non-toxic work culture was a concern with management

Absolutely. Another one of the "lasting legacies" he's left us with on his way out.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 29 June 2023 17:36 (ten months ago) link

No, instead, he didn't read it at all, and we're going item by item and discussing them in real time, and then waiting while he makes the adjustments in the doc in real time.

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahah = one "ha" for each hour I have wasted in similar situations in the recent past

sarahell, Thursday, 29 June 2023 18:19 (ten months ago) link

it's just like....about as much fun as standing behind someone else as they play a video game that you've already beaten

sad Mings of dynasty (Neanderthal), Thursday, 29 June 2023 18:23 (ten months ago) link

totally! two days ago I spent several hours holding my co-worker's hand while he made a billing statement for a client because he needed to understand it himself

sarahell, Thursday, 29 June 2023 18:38 (ten months ago) link

Any other teachers here actively avoid co-workers at all costs? I have to engage with some as a special education instructor, but my god do I try to get away from these immature, cliquey brats. Some people unfortunately get into this field because they have messianic complexes and think they’re capable of “saving” kids

beamish13, Thursday, 29 June 2023 20:18 (ten months ago) link

dude goes to my manager asking why training invites for next Tuesday's class haven't gone out yet, saying he has people signed up who work atypical shifts so they can make arrangements with their families.

The time of training is always 9:00 am - 5:30 pm ET, has been for over a decade, and in addition to the fact that he's been signing people up for this class for years, the exact time of the class is listed explicitly at the top of the sign-up sheet, right below the dates of training. we never send invites further out than two days in advance because the roster changes so significantly in the week leading up.

our invites aren't supposed to be the first time the attendees learn of the dates/time, he himself was supposed to tell them after signing them up weeks ago. This is why people fail to show up on Day 1 sometimes.

linoleum gallagher (Neanderthal), Thursday, 6 July 2023 13:32 (ten months ago) link

I avoided my usual snark though so score one for me not being a dick like usual

linoleum gallagher (Neanderthal), Thursday, 6 July 2023 13:32 (ten months ago) link

AND (hilariously) one of our partner sites apparently has continued to connect to VPN with Citrix, which we phased out months ago for AWS Appstream. It hasn't been fully decommissioned yet, because there are other things besides VPN that it's used for which haven't transitioned yet, which explains why they can still get onto it, but 11 days from now, it will no longer be available.

kind of sad that we discovered this now because the hilarity of nobody being able to get online at this site in 11 days would have been a great popcorn moment.

linoleum gallagher (Neanderthal), Thursday, 6 July 2023 13:50 (ten months ago) link

One constant, in every single job I've had throughout my career, is that poor managers really cannot handle being asked for clarification of task priorities. Every single directive they come up with is a "A1 main priority" and you can consistently see their brain start to break down if you directly ask them which of the sixteen A1 priorities should be done first.

"buh buh buh buh all of them buh buh"

Case in point, since last Wednesday I've been handed six new "high priority" tasks to get done "ASAP" (naturally all of these on top of my normal workload). When being given the most recent this morning, I reminded the head of our department about the other five she had already put on my plate. I asked if there was a priority order within these six and was greeted by a blank stare for a good twenty seconds, as if I'd asked her to fly to Mars. Her ultimate response was, "all of them".

Gee, I can't fathom why people feel stretched too thin with low morale.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 10 July 2023 17:14 (ten months ago) link

my manager's all over the place attention-wise, which I can relate to, but he's also relatively new to managing people so I can mention after (or during!) a meeting that he's said coworker A can work on three different things, and perhaps we should line those up in a backlog because none of them are fires needing fought and perhaps the large important task should get done first

mh, Monday, 10 July 2023 17:27 (ten months ago) link

xp - you should propose that they come up with a new priority category - "A1!" for things that are even bigger priorities than A1 priorities. You should send many emails regarding this new categorization system.

sarahell, Tuesday, 11 July 2023 05:40 (ten months ago) link

running out of patience for people who both don't turn banner notifications off in MS Teams and don't turn off email notifications in Outlook before leading a class. so I send them an email or a private message and inadvertently see it beamed in front of the entire class and have to ask them/show them how to turn them off during a break, and until I can do that, hold off sending PMs or emails until they're not screensharing.

linoleum gallagher (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 12 July 2023 15:26 (ten months ago) link

Photo shoot today in the operations space. "Oh we'll stay out of the way, here's the shot list" immediately shifted to "can someone clear out this area that wasn't ever planned to be on camera and wash that wall?" Utter chaos.

Jaq, Wednesday, 12 July 2023 20:10 (ten months ago) link

oh that's ridiculous

linoleum gallagher (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 12 July 2023 20:59 (ten months ago) link

that's pretty standard, sadly ... ugh

sarahell, Thursday, 13 July 2023 19:30 (ten months ago) link

they gave me a 401(k) class to supervise this week and neither trainer knows 401(k) very well. one hasn't touched it in years, one I think only just learned it himself not that long ago.

gee, how do you think it is going. I have had to join to answer questions so many times people have mistaken me for a third trainer.

linoleum gallagher (Neanderthal), Thursday, 13 July 2023 19:39 (ten months ago) link

one said I had a radio voice this morning though so that was a nice compliment

linoleum gallagher (Neanderthal), Thursday, 13 July 2023 19:39 (ten months ago) link

xp - yeah, photoshoots are almost always shitshows. minor inconveniences at best, huge disruptions at worst. at my old firm we had a shoot scheduled for a Thursday that was supposed to just be head shots for our new website. turned into "candids" as well and they decided that my desk was located in one of the shots and, thus, had to be cleaned off and vacated for "a short bit". this turned into six and a half hours during which I couldn't work at my desk, despite having a huge deadline for the next morning at 8 a.m. ended up finally leaving that night at nearly midnight since it was essentially 6 pm before I could start my day.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 13 July 2023 19:42 (ten months ago) link

Uuuugggghhhhhh that's awful.

We are supposed to do a headshots and group photo thing in two Fridays and I am so not looking forward to it.

Jaq, Friday, 14 July 2023 01:38 (ten months ago) link

v important q for u Jaq -- will you have the cats in the photo?!

sarahell, Friday, 14 July 2023 20:48 (ten months ago) link

OMG that would be amazing, I should bring all 7 for truly complete photoshoot chaos 😂

Jaq, Friday, 14 July 2023 20:55 (ten months ago) link

We have more than one fish microwaver and I genuinely thought that was the one office rule everyone knew. Why????

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Saturday, 15 July 2023 10:59 (nine months ago) link

I could make a very crass joke re yr post ENBB but I will refrain lol ... I know I fought the pro-fish microwaving battle in the past, but I am no longer invested in it and understand why so many people are against it.

sarahell, Saturday, 15 July 2023 18:50 (nine months ago) link

Global Security is trying to get a bunch of people who owe them a response in a security audit to respond. so in their infinite wisdom, they emailed all 300+ people on the same thread and asked them to respond.

and they're all replying all.

linoleum gallagher (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 18 July 2023 17:29 (nine months ago) link

omg!!!!!!!!!

do any of them have sig files?

sarahell, Tuesday, 18 July 2023 19:50 (nine months ago) link

p much all

linoleum gallagher (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 18 July 2023 19:51 (nine months ago) link

the predictable response from someone who replied all to tell everybody to stop replying all just happened.

linoleum gallagher (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 18 July 2023 19:51 (nine months ago) link

oh the laughters out loud!

sarahell, Tuesday, 18 July 2023 21:42 (nine months ago) link

"hey, two people are getting this error message".

"cool, can you have them try this thing?"

*crickets*

"hi again, I didn't hear back, so here are three questions I have for you, and two things to try, if the issue hasn't resolved, can you answer these?"

"Hi Neanderthal, just confirmed these two learners are still having the issue, plus one additional person"

"so...you ignored my questions, and you didn't try any of the things I asked you to try?"

*crickets*

"cool, here once again are three questions I have for you, and two things to try, if the issue hasn't resolved, can you answer these?"

linoleum gallagher (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 19 July 2023 20:40 (nine months ago) link

boy what a week.

we told this new hire to contact IT via web chat to report an issue. they'd inadvertently created a non-urgent online ticket instead of going through IT web chat, which means it will get shoved to the bottom of the priority pile. so I asked the trainer to have them report the issue to IT web chat.

he lets me know he's finished and shares the screenshot, which shows that he had her submit the ticket the exact same (wrong) way a second time. the option for chat is literally named "I want to request help via chat" and both of them inexplicably they picked the other option.

linoleum gallagher (Neanderthal), Friday, 21 July 2023 19:29 (nine months ago) link

it is good to know that I am not the only one who has these type of people in my work-life

sarahell, Saturday, 22 July 2023 15:28 (nine months ago) link

At the bar, I work with mostly great people. But one young woman, the youngest on the crew, gets slowly wine drunk all shift, disappears for long periods, ignores customers in favor of scrolling through her feeds, and shows up wild late and leaves early… yet tips are pooled, and since she is technically there for the same amount of time as the rest of us, she gets paid the same amount for doing much, much less work. Drives me up a wall, and it is driving my coworkers up a wall, too.

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Saturday, 22 July 2023 16:54 (nine months ago) link

my coworker cannot keep track of her emails even on a good day, but when she travels it’s worse

she emails me to send her a proposal “in a ‘clean email’ so i can easily forward” (deep eyeroll from me bc that means now there’s going to be two chains for the same goddamn thing)

ok. so i do that. subject line clearly calling out HEY THIS IS THE THING YOU JUST ASKED FOR

two hours later, she replies on her original request “hey did you send this”?

me: yes, sent in a clean email like you asked (attaches clean email)

later:

her: ohhhh i didn’t see it thank you!

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 22 July 2023 17:31 (nine months ago) link

me: muffled screaming

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 22 July 2023 17:32 (nine months ago) link

I’ve worked for the same small business forever and it’s well documented on this thread that my boss was an incredibly frustrating person to work. She’s the kind of person who’s owned her own business since she was in her early 20s - she’s now about 65-70 - because in her own words she’s literally incapable of working for anyone else. Disorganized, scatterbrained, a poor communicator, etc etc.

Well, at the end of the last year she finally managed to convince someone to buy her failing business (she’s remortgaged her house multiple times over the 40+yrs of running this business, it hasn’t made a profit in god knows how long. RC is in her 30s, owns a couple other businesses, has long resume in event planning - she sounded like someone who was gonna come on board and really turn things around.

Nope.

I moved states in March and was obviously going to be quitting but RC wanted me to stay on remotely and help with the transition and some backend work online. It’s been so fuxking frustrating.
- She asks me the same questions repeatedly because she loses the info/doesn’t organize the info.
- despite having run two other businesses she doesn’t seem to grasp basic business concepts, like gross and net numbers.
- she never proofreads her texts and they’re often really garbled to the point that context isn’t even helpful.
- she overly complicates every single process. I created really efficient and readable spreadsheets for a couple of processes and she keeps putting info in the wrong fields, adding extraneous columns, not using a consistent format, creating extra spreadsheets requiring the same info to be added to multiple sheets in different ways.
- I had to train her and her business partner on how to do the dyeing, over the phone, because my replacement quit after a couple months because she couldn’t handle the job*. This was a NIGHTMARE. Dyeing is a very straightforward process but these two women - one of whom I’d trained in person several times, and had written out very clear instructions for - just couldn’t get a single fucking thing right.
- I have a million more complaints but I’ll leave it there.

*so the last 3yrs I’ve been hella depressed and my old boss was out of the country 6mo of the year so I was honestly barely working. Like I wouldn’t bother going in for 2 weeks (but I was still claiming hours worked). I legit worked maybe a third of the hours I was paid for. I figured I was gone look bad when I left and my replacement starting getting way more done in half the time. But the opposite happened - she was working twice as much and getting only about a third of the work done (and badly), so now everyone thinks I’m a rockstar. When you hate working you just get really good at making shit highly efficient and streamlined and don’t tell anyone.

just1n3, Sunday, 23 July 2023 10:06 (nine months ago) link

she never proofreads her texts and they’re often really garbled to the point that context isn’t even helpful.
- she overly complicates every single process. I created really efficient and readable spreadsheets for a couple of processes and she keeps putting info in the wrong fields, adding extraneous columns, not using a consistent format, creating extra spreadsheets requiring the same info to be added to multiple sheets in different ways.

I feel sympathetic anger and frustration about this! ... There is a person at one of my jobs who is basically the same ... they want to learn financial stuff, like bookkeeping (my job), but they are just very not good at it. They were making these spreadsheets that were inconsistent, incorrect (info in wrong fields!), and apparently taking quite a while to do it ... So I came up with a simpler method to do what they had been doing, using the Project Management Software that everyone in that department uses, so that it would also be more efficient, and less likely that things are missing or wrong.

Now, this person, wanting to continue to be helpful, and further their learning, has now started making extraneous, inaccurate, and half-assed spreadsheets for other financial information.

I have showed this person how to export reports from the accounting software into spreadsheet format.
They said they understood.
They have now admitted, they did not understand how to create and export reports from the accounting software.
This is very user friendly accounting software with numerous tutorials and help menus.
This person apparently doesn't find those useful.

sarahell, Monday, 24 July 2023 05:05 (nine months ago) link

We’re just using google sheets, and the two main examples of problems are ridiculously simple - one is a sheet that tracks special orders (i.e. items not in stock in the store) for customers, and the other is sheet that sorts those orders by color so the workshop knows what needs to be dyed. The other problem is that there are 10 or so store staff and not a single one has managed to fill out the special order sheet correctly in 3 months. I go in and fix them every time, so now there are 70+ orders that are correct - they just have to look at any one of those 70 examples of how to do it right.

I understand some people just aren’t very smart but this is just lazy ignorance.

just1n3, Monday, 24 July 2023 05:30 (nine months ago) link

they just have to look at any one of those 70 examples of how to do it right.

<3 <3

sarahell, Monday, 24 July 2023 06:09 (nine months ago) link

this person's original effort at financial spreadsheets was tracking income from event rentals. They would regularly record the income in the "received" column before we actually received it. So there was no simple way of seeing who had not paid for their event. Some events require a deposit paid prior to the event itself. The amount of the deposit would not regularly get recorded.

sarahell, Monday, 24 July 2023 06:19 (nine months ago) link

We’re just using google sheets, and the two main examples of problems are ridiculously simple - one is a sheet that tracks special orders (i.e. items not in stock in the store) for customers, and the other is sheet that sorts those orders by color so the workshop knows what needs to be dyed. The other problem is that there are 10 or so store staff and not a single one has managed to fill out the special order sheet correctly in 3 months. I go in and fix them every time, so now there are 70+ orders that are correct - they just have to look at any one of those 70 examples of how to do it right.

I understand some people just aren’t very smart but this is just lazy ignorance.

― just1n3, Monday, July 24, 2023 1:30 AM bookmarkflaglink

there is definitely a personality type that willfully disregards the proper way to do things because "who cares, if it's wrong, they'll fix it", and with little regard for the person that has to do that time and again. fucking hate that shit.

I'm sorry to hear about the mess at your company :(

linoleum gallagher (Neanderthal), Monday, 24 July 2023 15:32 (nine months ago) link

one of our partner sites keeps swapping out trainers on me at the 11th hour. Not due to illness or unforeseen personal circumstances, but because of scheduling conflicts on their end. it's making them look really disorganized.

this morning, I was told they were replacing one of the instructors with another, hours before I was supposed to meet with them. annoying, but whatever. then an hour later, they told me they had to replace the replacement.

last week, I prepped a trainer for 5 days along with their co-instructor, only for them to replace the trainer the day training started. that completely destroys the chemistry between instructors and gives me no time to react to it.

linoleum gallagher (Neanderthal), Monday, 24 July 2023 15:43 (nine months ago) link

trainer: Hi Neanderthal, lots of learners still reporting technical issues, we really need to get this fixed ASAP.

Me: Who is having them? and what issues? do they already have ticket numbers? I asked you to gather all of this on Friday and this morning.

trainer: we just really need to get this fixed ASAP or come up with a Plan B.

Me: Who is having them? and what issues? do they already have ticket numbers? I asked you to gather all of this on Friday and this morning.

trainer: just so you know, assessment is coming up in a half hour, we really need to have this fixed

Me: WHO...IS...HAVING THEM? WHAT ISSUES? DO THEY ALREADY HAVE TICKET NUMBERS? I CAN'T JUST WAVE A FUCKING WAND!

linoleum gallagher (Neanderthal), Monday, 31 July 2023 14:46 (nine months ago) link

<3 clearly you are a duct taper

sarahell, Monday, 31 July 2023 15:41 (nine months ago) link

yup.

big diff between last year when I had an almost rage-quit meltdown and this year is that we have 7 more people on my team this year than last year, so I have a lot more help. which is why I'm still aggravated but not flipping out.

linoleum gallagher (Neanderthal), Monday, 31 July 2023 15:57 (nine months ago) link

i had a thing a couple weeks ago that was similarly absurd

Them: Can you get us the lease for this project that got awarded a grant?
Me: They don't have a lease. They are essentially a committee/department of the org that owns the building
Their friend: Hey so I'm helping with this grant stuff, and do you think you can help me find the lease?
Me: There is no lease. The project is part of the org that owns the building. They can't lease space to themself.
Their 2nd friend: Hi, I am helping "Them" find stuff for this grant, and I was looking in the shared google folder and I can't find a lease ... do you know where I can find it?
Me: (in an email to Them, Their Friend, Their 2nd Friend) I have been asked by all of you about this lease for a grant, and there actually isn't a lease. Here is what I would communicate to the funder. Please feel free to c&p this in response to the funder's email

sarahell, Monday, 31 July 2023 16:25 (nine months ago) link

to add to the frustration, I was asked for a handful of things when they were applying for this grant. During this discussion I clarified, that the project is not its own entity. It is part of the org that owns the building, which is why the grant applicant info had to be that of the larger org.

But, even after that, no one changed the language that some nice volunteer had written in the grant application "project leases space in the building" ... hence the funder asking for a copy of the lease ... which doesn't exist.

sarahell, Monday, 31 July 2023 16:28 (nine months ago) link

I feel like there is a certain personality type that can't adjust to new information after an initial communication. So, whether it's an email with a mistake that you correct via email, or your situation, no matter how many times you correct the mistake in subsequent communication, they gravitate back towards the initial instruction and 'forget' the new instructions, over and over again. and if called on it, they point back to the initial communication, and leave out the fact that you sent numerous follow-ups - even ones they possibly acknowledged and responded to!.

That's why I stress so much about emails containing instructions, because I know if I make a mistake, even if I catch it quickly and submit a correction, there's a non-zero number of people who will never be able to get past what I initially said.

linoleum gallagher (Neanderthal), Monday, 31 July 2023 17:05 (nine months ago) link

some of said people are probably pedants that think it's ridiculous that it was wrong the first time and subconsciously manifest that resentment into forgetfulness about subsequent instructions, but that's probably a huge oversimplification.

linoleum gallagher (Neanderthal), Monday, 31 July 2023 17:07 (nine months ago) link

i think some people just don't read things that closely -- whether it's because of inattentiveness or lack of caring/dgaf -- or if the "new information" is contrary to what they want to hear.

sarahell, Monday, 31 July 2023 18:02 (nine months ago) link

I'm guilty of logorrhea in work chat and my strategy for combating that is self-editing down to nearly nothing. Still doesn't always work.

it's really funny when you edit a thought down to two or three words, though

mh, Monday, 31 July 2023 18:27 (nine months ago) link

lol yeah. I can never send any message these days in just one draft. I'm always surprised at how many redundant words/phrases and qualifiers I initially employ, like I'm expecting the initial email to encompass the entirety of the conversation.

it's always 'first draft = just write the thing as ugly and longwinded as possible so you have something to edit', 'second draft = ok make it make sense to your audience', 'third draft = ok now say it with 70% less words'.

linoleum gallagher (Neanderthal), Monday, 31 July 2023 18:35 (nine months ago) link

*before sending, obv. it would probably be amusing seeing multiple drafts of the same message sent back to back to back though

linoleum gallagher (Neanderthal), Monday, 31 July 2023 18:35 (nine months ago) link

it's worth sending an initial message with the barest bones of what you're thinking to see what direction your coworkers will misunderstand things

mh, Monday, 31 July 2023 18:35 (nine months ago) link

human communication is difficult if not impossible

mh, Monday, 31 July 2023 18:36 (nine months ago) link

re sarah’s predicament

i find too this happens so much when coworkers get asks from higherups

they refuse to draw on information they already have ~especially~ if the answer is “no we don’t have that”
instead they just push it down the chain VP IS ASKING FOR THIS DO WE HAVE IT so that i am then the one on record saying “no we dont have that we never had it and if one more person asks i’m taking you all with me”

it’s like they think the seniority of the person asking somehow magically changes the answer idk

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 31 July 2023 19:06 (nine months ago) link

magical thinking for sure

sarahell, Monday, 31 July 2023 19:13 (nine months ago) link

some of said people are probably pedants that think it's ridiculous that it was wrong the first time and subconsciously manifest that resentment into forgetfulness about subsequent instructions, but that's probably a huge oversimplification.

― linoleum gallagher (Neanderthal), Monday, July 31, 2023 12:07 PM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

i think this is a perceptive observation tbh

budo jeru, Monday, 31 July 2023 19:13 (nine months ago) link

also I rarely do multiple drafts unless it's a super sensitive thing where I am representing others and they should have input, though I re-write and edit as I go ... and then have to go back a final time to make sure I don't have any grammatical errors from rewording things.

My "key thing" is to always put the thing I want the other person/people to do/respond to in the first paragraph.

If they have to spend more than 2 minutes reading/looking for what I expect them to do/hope that they will do ... I have noticed that they will be way more prone to ignore the whole thing.

Of course, if your goal is to have them ignore it or just realize it isn't worth spending the time and you clearly have it all thought through and know what you're doing and they would be thrilled to just let you do what you are proposing to do so that they can avoid it ... (which sometimes, tbh, is the goal) then definitely bury the lede.

sarahell, Monday, 31 July 2023 19:19 (nine months ago) link

more like "bitch about your asshole co-workers" but today that person is me.

I was rushing around all morning putting out all kinds of fires for my team and that's when I tend to make mistakes. so I mistakenly report that someone didn't take an assessment (despite them insisting they did the day before), only to find out they did, but it showed on a different screen, which I knew but forgot in the heat of the moment.

obviously I rushed to announce I had made a mistake, took accountability, and said I will do better next time (fortunately within minutes of the notification going out), but I feel like a humongous asshole. that could have gotten someone in trouble if I hadn't been quick to catch my mistake. :(

linoleum gallagher (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 2 August 2023 15:00 (nine months ago) link

i mean i'm not afraid of repercussions or anything, I have no problem saying "shit I fucked up", but it is just upsetting to me when I do things like this carelessly that could impact other people.

linoleum gallagher (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 2 August 2023 15:03 (nine months ago) link

Two months ago I was invited to sit in an hour and a half training for software that I will never use, designed for a department I never work with, in a capacity that is about as far removed from my actual job as anything could possibly be. I was invited because the third-party software vendor worked with me previously on developing a completely separate software solution. It was a wasted 90 minutes for me, but these things happen. They've been trying to schedule a 2 hour follow-up for several weeks now and since I was on the the previous training session, I've been copied on all the communications for trying to set up the new one. When questions of scheduling came up, I clearly stated several times that they should schedule without me as there is no need for me to attend. Last Friday the software vendor contact in charge of setting up the training even called me to ask if it was fine if he left me off the invite, I responded with an enthusiastic yes.

Fast forward to yesterday. A co-worker forwarded me the invite, copied everyone even tangentially involved, and added, "Oops! Looks like you forgot to include jon/via/chi! I'm adding him now". As I was drafting my response about not attending, my boss' boss hopped in with, "Great! I'm so glad jon/via/chi can attend now, I can jump on a different, conflicting call instead".

Infinite facepalms and an afternoon's productivity lost.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 3 August 2023 14:29 (nine months ago) link

i often wonder about people who have jobs where they have the agency and autonomy to fill their work schedules with totally pointless activities that are mostly trainings and meetings. As in, they choose these things. They somehow see them as productive and relevant. Perhaps they have their own message board called MDXor.com where they complain about their co-workers who are people like us?

sarahell, Thursday, 3 August 2023 14:37 (nine months ago) link

mdxor 1: I can't believe jon doesn't want to participate in this training. So what if it's something he will never use? He should just do it because YOLO
mdxor 2: otm - who doesn't like learning about all the software solutions?

sarahell, Thursday, 3 August 2023 14:39 (nine months ago) link

lol yes, the co-worker in question who snitched me into the training absolutely looooooves trainings, she volunteers for them and watches the ones she can't attend on replay later (there's an argument to be made that this is due to a failure in our management to give her enough to do, but that's a separate type of complaint I have)

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 3 August 2023 14:42 (nine months ago) link

is she a "live laugh love" person too?

sarahell, Thursday, 3 August 2023 14:44 (nine months ago) link

meanwhile yesterday I filled out a survey for one of my workplaces, because we were going to get paid to do it. No one else had responded to the request, so I did it. One of the questions was about our "governance structure" ... options were "hierarchical", "distributed" and "other" ... I chose "other" and put "non-hierarchical/chaotic"

sarahell, Thursday, 3 August 2023 14:47 (nine months ago) link

xp - ha, now that you mention it... not exactly, but i can see how she's whatever the younger millennial version of that might be called. like 10 years ago she 100% would have been a "live laugh love" person, but is young enough to consider that tacky so it's all "notorious RBG" swag on her desk.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 3 August 2023 14:50 (nine months ago) link

here they've changed the training system so everyone has to do the mandatory training again. it's like it's lost all our saved games.

koogs, Thursday, 3 August 2023 15:10 (nine months ago) link

my week summed up:

"You've been leading this training class for years - why are you making mistakes like this is your first time?"

linoleum gallagher (Neanderthal), Friday, 4 August 2023 13:27 (nine months ago) link

as a callback to talk upthread about people who willfully don't want to learn current processes....

whenever there's a GUI issue, there's a simple process for starting a ticket. I shared these details over and over again with the same people, who sometimes asked for them even after they'd already successfully submitted them. it was tiring.

they changed ticketing systems earlier this year. our boss told us all months ago to get used to it, register, and make sure we understood how to use it.

so the GUI issue comes up again and I was out yesterday and my backup hasn't learned how to use the new ticketing system, so he reports the issue via email to the guy who usually fixes it, and of course, nothing gets done.

linoleum gallagher (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 8 August 2023 13:24 (nine months ago) link

Ugh … do you need more duct tape??

sarahell, Tuesday, 8 August 2023 17:20 (nine months ago) link

srsly. and now of course since this didn't get done yesterday, the issue persisted into today, and now the person who needs to fix it is otherwise distracted.

linoleum gallagher (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 8 August 2023 17:34 (nine months ago) link

it's sure fun trying to run a training class when all of the standard processes we have in place for catching up learners who miss time and people who are at risk are being vetoed by our partner client (when they don't really have the authority to do that), and yet nobody higher up in my dept wants to step in and actually talk to them. so I promise to my instructors these things will happen and look like a liar when they don't.

that and banning OT a little over a day before training which turned everything into a logistical nightmare = I'm literally LOLing at how bad this is going.

linoleum gallagher (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 9 August 2023 13:28 (nine months ago) link

so tired of this same old song and dance:

Step 1 - person x makes out of left field request that is only tangentially related to what our department does, has an unrealistic deadline and will take significant resources on our end

Step 2 - department head internally says to our team, effectively, "no way in hell, that's not our job, we don't have time for that"

Step 3 - department head responds to person x's initial request "sure, we'll get right on that!"

Like I don't know what happens between steps 2 and 3, but oh boy it would be nice for that support of our team's resources and capacity to be expressed externally even just once, for a little treat.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 9 August 2023 16:58 (nine months ago) link

xp - ugh, sometimes LOL is the only sane response

sarahell, Wednesday, 9 August 2023 16:58 (nine months ago) link

xp jon -- do you ask? Like, perhaps this is me envisioning a sane functional workplace that does not exist, but, in this hypothetical sane functional workplace, I would ask, "Yo, Chief, didn't you say there was no chance in hell we would do that? What's the story? Do we actually have to do it, and if so, why?"

sarahell, Wednesday, 9 August 2023 17:02 (nine months ago) link

And I am no stranger to having to do other people's jobs for them as well as things that aren't my/our department ... in just this one job where I've been part-time (and before that a contractor) for 5 years, the list of these things is ... long. Some of them are like "this thing seems worth developing the capacity to do" which leads to "let's spend countless hours learning about this thing and getting supplies/software so that we can do it" ... and most of the time, we don't end up doing it more than once.

Like, three years ago the thing was "Property Needs Assessments" ... and I (on the request of my co-worker) spent many hours researching PNAs, what they looked like, what went in them, how the reports were formatted, what the underlying methodology and standards are for conducting them, summarizing these standards in google docs, explaining them to my co-worker, and then we ended up doing all of two PNAs. ... Granted, the stupid ASTM methodology guide was useful in re other things as it gave me a checklist of all the different building systems and components that I will use when doing walkthroughs and other things.

sarahell, Wednesday, 9 August 2023 17:13 (nine months ago) link

I've actually gently asked in the past and gotten some variation of the, "well so-and-so thinks this is important, so we better do it". Which I totally get and that will happen, senior leadership wants to push through pet projects, etc etc. My frustration is more born out of the fact that we (using "we" as our department, in general) consistently cave immediately to the slightest insistence that THIS one is the important one. It just would be nice for someone with any leadership weight to say even, "listen, I know you think this is important but the last time you asked us for a rush plan, you ended up sitting on it for six months. given our current workload and priorities, I just can't promise the turnaround you're asking for right now but we can revisit in a few weeks". You know?

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 9 August 2023 18:02 (nine months ago) link

yes ... exactly ... that's the type of thing that I tend to do ... I am the person who will not cave. However, I end up getting pressured by other coworkers (and clients) to cave or get painted as the "bad guy" ... getting to say "I told you so." is a pyrrhic victory I know well.

sarahell, Wednesday, 9 August 2023 18:36 (nine months ago) link

today is a wfh day for me. i had to run into the office really quick this morning around 10:30. i forgot to bring my work cell phone with me. someone called that line & i don't have a voice mail set up. they called my supervisor. she sent me a chat saying "i helped them with their question but you don't have a voice mail set up". no information about who it was, what the question was, not even a direct request to set up a voice mail, or an offer to help point me in the right direction. I responded, "OK thanks." I'm not going to fill in your void today, lady.

ꙮ (map), Wednesday, 9 August 2023 18:46 (nine months ago) link

is this the missing chair or someone else?

sarahell, Wednesday, 9 August 2023 18:48 (nine months ago) link

lol missing stair lol

sarahell, Wednesday, 9 August 2023 18:48 (nine months ago) link

yes

ꙮ (map), Wednesday, 9 August 2023 18:59 (nine months ago) link

i outright stopped working for about 2 hours today. just got too overstimulated and said fuck it and just spent time reading ILX threads or doing other stuff.

linoleum gallagher (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 9 August 2023 21:13 (nine months ago) link

(this is in MS Teams chat)

Tweedle Dee: I can't see any chats
Tweedle Dum: Me either.

...

linoleum gallagher (Neanderthal), Friday, 11 August 2023 13:15 (nine months ago) link

almost as good as the time when a manager asked over the phone if a trainee could hear him and the trainee wrote back "no"

linoleum gallagher (Neanderthal), Friday, 11 August 2023 13:16 (nine months ago) link

i actually cracked open a beer. perks of working from home.

linoleum gallagher (Neanderthal), Friday, 11 August 2023 14:44 (nine months ago) link

two zoom links in the email which is correct?

neither of them!

koogs, Monday, 14 August 2023 09:42 (nine months ago) link

lmao.

earosmith (Neanderthal), Monday, 14 August 2023 13:19 (nine months ago) link

at 2 minutes past you start to wonder why there are only 4 people and not 10. and someone goes to check the second location and finds nobody there making you slightly more sure you are in the correct place...

koogs, Monday, 14 August 2023 13:44 (nine months ago) link

we had a trainee who had to get moved out of the last class as in 5 days, he couldn't get logged into the network/his systems, despite multiple password resets.

he got moved back a week, and two days in, still can't. they say they've unsuccessfully reset the password several times and are "baffled" as to what the problem is. lol...come on, you know what the problem is.

how well do you think he's gonna do in a job that requires signing into multiple programs daily if in 7 business days he can't manage to key in a password that's written down for him correctly once.

earosmith (Neanderthal), Monday, 14 August 2023 20:39 (nine months ago) link

we used to have an internal, proprietary tool that we used to grant licenses/access to various applications, and it was super easy to use. It was also easy to do bulk jobs. we never had a problem.

then we moved to a new cloud-based tool and the bulk process is sensitive to the point where if one of our 15,000 colleagues uploads a bulk job with one bad piece of code, all access requests stop processing for the entire company for days.

great design.

earosmith (Neanderthal), Friday, 18 August 2023 18:31 (eight months ago) link

lol ... i am currently dealing with the fact that quickbooks online says it can copy a file from one account to another, but it only copies some of the data ... so, this week is less about "stupid annoying co-workers" and more about "stupid annoying software I have to use at work"

sarahell, Friday, 18 August 2023 20:19 (eight months ago) link

their desktop version ... you can copy, you can import, you can export ... it worked ... the cloud version ... seriously ... meanwhile earlier this week, my co-worker was dissatisfied with Google Drive and permissions and explained/complained about how stupid it was to me, and I thought, "I am glad I don't have to deal with something this annoying." And now ... lol

sarahell, Friday, 18 August 2023 20:21 (eight months ago) link

3:30 pm ET

"hey Neanderthal, M!ke is probably not going to be in tomorrow, I need you to take his Delivering Virtual Training class tomorrow at 9 am"

"cool, well, you could have likely figured this out and made this decision at 11 am. now there's two hours left in the day and I've done no prep for it, nor do I know who's even in the class"

earosmith (Neanderthal), Monday, 21 August 2023 19:25 (eight months ago) link

i was technically listed as his backup a while ago for this reason but

a) this was done in an email and not documented anywhere else, an email I easily forgot about as it came during a chaotic week and

b) I haven't had any time to prep anyway because I had multiple classes going on last week and had to teach one myself, and also had a bit of a shocking personal situation of my own come up Thursday (that's now resolved).

earosmith (Neanderthal), Monday, 21 August 2023 19:26 (eight months ago) link

one of the seasonal hires in one of our classes, management noticed was idle for extremely long periods of time (like, HOURS) and asked them about it, and the individual feigned ignorance and said they'd been doing all of the assignments, even the recent test. a quick records check indicated that no, this did not happen, and in fact this person has done no work since last Thursday. hadn't even touched any of the online courses, did not take the test or even open it.

so they let her go today and she began harassing people on the side and commenting about it publicly in the classroom.

one every year.

earosmith (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 22 August 2023 18:27 (eight months ago) link

more "stupid, asshole co-workers", but I got passed feedback about instructors in a class I'm not supporting, but basically one of the BIs just decided to make a series of thinly innuendoed American Pie-inspired dick jokes in a training class chat.

stopped the training recording so it wouldn't show up on that, but one (very rightfully upset) class member screen-capped it and sent it.

waiting with bated breath to see if this person's manager actually handles it right, because it's pretty obviously sexual harassment/hostile environment type thing.

earosmith (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 23 August 2023 16:54 (eight months ago) link

otherwise, if they don't, I gotta go to HR and make an anonymous report.

earosmith (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 23 August 2023 16:54 (eight months ago) link

two minutes after I address another class unrelated to the incident, asking them to be watching out for any inappropriate behavior and reporting it as appropriately, one of the female training supervisors made me aware that one of my trainers invited her to chat w/ him privately on WhatsApp. not about anything untoward, just poetry and life and stuff, but....obviously that is still crossing a line with a colleague he just met.

WHY IS EVERY MALE TRAINER ACTING SO DAMNED CREEPY THIS WEEK?!!! this one was probably a little more naive about it and the supervisor didn't want any disciplinary action taken but I have an obligation to report it regardless so I will be.

earosmith (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 23 August 2023 17:32 (eight months ago) link

I feel like “privately” is carrying a lot of implication there, should he have invited a chaperone to a WhatsApp chat? I’m not sure how that’s creepy?
If she felt uncomfortable, 100%, but if she felt she should mention it because it wasn’t routine, well maybe not?

assert (matttkkkk), Wednesday, 23 August 2023 18:22 (eight months ago) link

my dad is retired but does some work with the carpenter's union and one of the presenters at some meeting got his position in the union nuked from orbit

while it's an old off-color joke, it is definitely not appropriate to introduce a female floorlayer with "here's Y, here to tell you how you can make a living on your knees!"

my suspicion is this was not the first time that guy delved into inappropriate territory

mh, Wednesday, 23 August 2023 18:31 (eight months ago) link

xpost I left out some details, but basically they were chatting about work things in a group chat on MS Teams, but the convo drifted into poetry and writing etc, and he said something like "we should totally chat on WhatsApp", i.e. DM her about non-work things. similar to saying "hey you should hit me up on Facebook Messenger" to a co-worker like an hour after you meet them.

finding colleagues on social media is fine when you know them well and trust them but she barely knew him for a few hours.

perhaps not 'creepy' but a little too forward and familiar. i don't generally seek co-workers out on social media unless i've known em years and trust them.

earosmith (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 23 August 2023 19:04 (eight months ago) link

or we become close friends fast or something.

he's not really in trouble or anything but she felt uncomfortable by it.

earosmith (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 23 August 2023 19:06 (eight months ago) link

"here's Y, here to tell you how you can make a living on your knees!"

jfc

earosmith (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 23 August 2023 19:08 (eight months ago) link

i don't get people who seem to ignore Teams messages all day. is it an object permanence thing, if I don't look at my messages, they don't exist?

we have a training supervisor who is supposed to be attending training to supervise the trainees but communicating with us to navigate through any trainee-specific issues, and they haven't read a single message, private or group, in two days. now having to email her to gently nudge her to....read Teams messages.

I can't turn a fart into a question (Neanderthal), Thursday, 24 August 2023 16:18 (eight months ago) link

we hire from all over and there's one trainee in Tampa, FL, and of course, hurricane coming, but I guess they weren't paying attention and got an email about it from their apartment complex and started freaking out, thinking the hurricane was *already here*. saying "I'm already getting high winds and lights flickering!". we had to inform them that, uh, no, it's not even past Cancun yet and hanging around Cuba, none of that is the hurricane.

(we are very good about letting people have off before and after hurricanes as needed, no questions asked and paying them for it, so that's not an issue. just don't know how they had no idea about it and then also thought it was already here)

I can't turn a fart into a question (Neanderthal), Monday, 28 August 2023 16:51 (eight months ago) link

stupid dipshit trainer, despite us putting out an emergency notification to turn off all banner notifications a month ago, and me addressing this exact issue with this same person earlier this year, noticed their banners were on throughout today, opted not to fix it, and as a result, the private group chat many of us had to discuss learner behavior/performance, including people who had resigned or separated, was visible to everybody. and we don't know who's seen it.

this person has been an instructor for years and was supposed to be showing a brand new one the ropes, but all they've done for the last three weeks is show them how to be a colossal fuck up.

I can't turn a fart into a question (Neanderthal), Monday, 28 August 2023 19:43 (eight months ago) link

while screensharing that is. that's why I use a Window when I screenshare, but for whatever reason she shared the ENTIRE SCREEN with the banners on

I can't turn a fart into a question (Neanderthal), Monday, 28 August 2023 19:44 (eight months ago) link

"hey I need to put in a report to see how many people impacted by hurricane yesterday in a few minutes and let them know how much time we need to catch them up, can you get that for me?"

"sure, I only just received a list of who was in Florida 5 minutes ago and we have about 300 trainees, let me get right on that"

I can't turn a fart into a question (Neanderthal), Thursday, 31 August 2023 14:18 (eight months ago) link

i have totally forgotten what it is like to have a boss/manager overseeing my work and that of my co-workers. In many ways it's cool not really having to answer to anyone. In other ways, the levels of absurdity and lack of accountability (for everyone, me included tbh, though obviously, mostly for them lol) starts to make me feel like I'm living in some insane alternate universe.

sarahell, Friday, 1 September 2023 16:25 (eight months ago) link

i must be one of these stupid, annoying co-workers. I got passed up for a promotion/raise by someone who was hired later and has a much lighter workload/fewer responsibilities. and neither of our work loads or scopes are changing after this! wtf. it’s like my boss changed from dusty baker to bob gehren overnight

brimstead, Friday, 1 September 2023 21:00 (eight months ago) link

I shouldn’t post about my personal life here :-(

brimstead, Friday, 1 September 2023 21:02 (eight months ago) link

Maybe you’ve made yourself too valuable and irreplaceable in your current role by taking on more responsibilities etc. and your ability to function at a high level in this role is being taken advantage of

epistantophus, Saturday, 2 September 2023 01:19 (eight months ago) link

a manager from one of our third-party partner hire classes reached out to one of my colleagues who is supervising those classes today. she asked if the colleague could send the training invite to one of the trainee's personal email address, because they were waiting for the equipment that our company sent to arrive.

This third-party company is a Bring Your Own Device client that requires their hires to supply their own equipment. There is no equipment coming. How the hell did one of their managers not even know this?

(not a comment on the ethics of 'bring your own device', which I feel like is really cheap and stupid of companies, but this third-party partner hire is a pretty shitty company and I've told friends not to work there before if possible)

Make the chats AI (Neanderthal), Thursday, 7 September 2023 20:36 (eight months ago) link

totally an uptick in abusive, toxic seasonal hires this year. we've had to be careful about modifying MS Teams settings to require admitting everybody in from the lobby because when they are eventually let go for their multiple conduct abuses, they like to try and rejoin the meeting and sabotage it by saying whatever toxic, horrible bullshit they can before they're kicked out.

Make the chats AI (Neanderthal), Friday, 8 September 2023 15:00 (eight months ago) link

Here's a example of something that is GOOD right now that illustrates how STUPID some of our leaders are in their decision-making.

So right now, we are in the midst of our busiest time of year (Open Enrollment). Most years, I dread it - it's usually a three month period of exponentially-growing frustration. Instead, it's been the smoothest Open Enrollment system basically ever for me.

The only reason: I'm aligned to our newest partner organization (joined last year). In terms of competence, they're world-class - they are very organized, consistent, and easy to work with. As a result, they are the lead partner organization, and handle most of our third-party hires, despite having barely been working with us for a year.

They took the mantle over from our previous lead partner organization, who was dismissed for cause last year. They were with us for 6 years, and they were always terrible at everything. Their servers could not handle our systems, got frequently overloaded, and caused agent desktops to crash multiple times per day. They also lied about their server's capabilities over and over again.

They hired managers who were often underqualified and gave them terrible training, to the point where many of them expressed confusion their first week as to whether they worked for us or the partner organization, or what they were even supposed to do. They had telephony technology (pre-pandemic) that routinely froze up and had hundreds of calls pool and get routed nowhere MULTIPLE DAYS of the year, every year.

But nevermind this partnership costing us a ton of money and reputational hits over these six years, they only (finally) got fired because they jeopardized a one-million dollar contract with one of our most important clients. It took them screwing up the processing of system credentials for 200+ people, delaying training by almost a week and pissing said client off, for one of our Execs to fly over there and tell them YOU'RE DONE - FINISH OUT THIS YEAR, AND WE DON'T KNOW YOU ANYMORE.

shoulda happened five years ago!

Make the chats AI (Neanderthal), Friday, 15 September 2023 18:57 (seven months ago) link

for fuck’s sake, search outlook before you throw me under a bus you piece of shit

brimstead, Friday, 22 September 2023 21:10 (seven months ago) link

SAME DUDE AS ABOVE FWIW

brimstead, Friday, 22 September 2023 21:15 (seven months ago) link

ugh, sorry brimstead but in my sad experience

for fuck’s sake, search outlook before you throw me under a bus you piece of shit

is an evergreen post

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 22 September 2023 21:16 (seven months ago) link

co-worker emails yesterday afternoon: Can you deal with this group coming in on Sunday, I'm sick and don't have the capacity to handle it

a few hours later on said co-worker's social media: pictures of very tasty looking margaritas with a friend

... I'm only mildly annoyed because I am fine with covering for this person as they have been getting a lot of criticism from other people at work, but ... don't say you're sick if it's really just "I need a motherfucking break from this bullshit." ... which I totally respect

sarahell, Saturday, 23 September 2023 22:15 (seven months ago) link

because it is likely that one of the people criticizing this co-worker will use that discrepancy to further criticize this person.

sarahell, Saturday, 23 September 2023 22:17 (seven months ago) link

two weeks pass...

my co-workers and managers were incredibly supportive during my bereavement time, and it was my boss who encouraged me to take two weeks.

I get back today, to find out they aligned me to co-facilitate a class that started last Friday - I don't actually begin teaching until Friday, but now that means I get zero time to actually meet my co-instructor and talk about how we're going to divide things up, and have to jump into the class to help despite having 500+ emails to read and trying to re-acclimate to everything. and I'm on PTO two days next week.

what the fuck....thanks for giving me no time to get re-acclimated, guys. they're like "we thought this might be a good experience for you", i'm like...maybe ask me first? idk. I haven't taught in months and now I'm forced to hit the ground running before I can take a breath.

real warm grandpa (Neanderthal), Monday, 9 October 2023 15:21 (seven months ago) link

and like I don't 'teach' until Friday, but I'm expected to be in the class and helping do administrative tasks. which I didn't get a chance to communicate with my co-instructor.

real warm grandpa (Neanderthal), Monday, 9 October 2023 15:21 (seven months ago) link

on top of this mom is going out of state on vacation and her car has a potential starter issue that wasn't caught until today, so I have to take it in for her during work one day this week, while she's gone. happy goddamn Monday.

real warm grandpa (Neanderthal), Monday, 9 October 2023 15:32 (seven months ago) link

One of my workplaces was called out by Stalinists as racist and Zionist… they had just hired a contract marketing and outreach person but had not mentioned anything during the interview process about conflicts with aforementioned Stalinists. New hire sees call out post and quits before onboarding

sarahell, Wednesday, 11 October 2023 01:38 (seven months ago) link

that sounds awful

Dan S, Wednesday, 11 October 2023 01:42 (seven months ago) link

Jesus!

real warm grandpa (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 11 October 2023 01:52 (seven months ago) link

It has been stressful to say the least… I am co-producing an event there this weekend and was fortunate to only have 2 bands cancel and get one Stalinist troll comment on Instagram… I work for an org that has space in the building owned/operated by the org in question. The Stalinists had been a member of the org but recently got expelled for … various things that are apparently ok in service of the revolution??

sarahell, Wednesday, 11 October 2023 02:11 (seven months ago) link

Oh and the margarita co-worker upthread got seriously dragged by the Stalinists…

sarahell, Wednesday, 11 October 2023 02:12 (seven months ago) link

damn, california stalinists

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Wednesday, 11 October 2023 02:13 (seven months ago) link

so like what is involved in being a stalinist in the usa in 2023?

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 11 October 2023 02:13 (seven months ago) link

these are the notes tankies of twitter people right

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Wednesday, 11 October 2023 02:14 (seven months ago) link

oops, noted

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Wednesday, 11 October 2023 02:15 (seven months ago) link

California Stalin
on such a winter's день

real warm grandpa (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 11 October 2023 02:23 (seven months ago) link

yes, these are tankies, who when they were questioned about being tankies when they originally wanted to join/move in a year and a half ago, denied being tankies and called the people who questioned this "racist" and demanded public apologies from them. I was one of those forced to apologize.

sarahell, Wednesday, 11 October 2023 16:48 (seven months ago) link

meanwhile, their Instagram wishes a happy birthday to Stalin and the leader of their group posts on twitter about Stalin being a great man and how the left should really model their tactics after Stalin more.

sarahell, Wednesday, 11 October 2023 16:49 (seven months ago) link

gross

real warm grandpa (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 11 October 2023 16:51 (seven months ago) link

lol @ Comrade

real warm grandpa (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 11 October 2023 16:57 (seven months ago) link

Joining with the imperialists to critique their enemies means switching sides in the global class war. It is nothing short of treachery, and the practical implications are no less dire.

lots of "the enemy of my enemy" logic
as well as classic "you're either with us or against us" logic which was the basis of my comment comparing them to Republican members of my extended family

sarahell, Wednesday, 11 October 2023 16:59 (seven months ago) link

though earlier today I was reading posts on a non-profit workers FB group, and damn ... I am just really glad I don't work anywhere that has to directly issue statements / messaging around Israel/Palestine rn ...

sarahell, Wednesday, 11 October 2023 17:03 (seven months ago) link

I know it was a transition for me going from a private company to working in a higher education setting, things definitely work at their own pace as questions/requests work their way through administration and different levels. It can definitely seem slow to someone unused to dealing with it, I totally get it! But now I have a manager who is brand new to higher ed as well and he keeps getting aggravated with our team for not getting answers quickly enough for his tastes. He's very much a "I want an answer immediately" type and, well, that's great, but we can't control how long it takes other departments to respond to our inquiries. I know he'll eventually get it, but it's annoying to continually get comments insinuating that I'm not doing my job correctly because I can't force other people to get him info as rapidly as he'd like.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 11 October 2023 17:11 (seven months ago) link

you should collaborate with a teammate that's good at make-up effects and give them faux-bruises and fake blood/injuries and then one day knock on manager's door, holding the colleague by the scruff of the neck, and say "he wouldn't give me the info I needed so I roughed him up good for ya, boss! we won't be waiting for data any longer!"

real warm grandpa (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 11 October 2023 17:13 (seven months ago) link

lol I like that plan!

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 11 October 2023 17:15 (seven months ago) link

another option is to rotely respond with the sports slogan associated with the University's main athletic program ... like where I live it's "Go Bears!"

for example:
Corporate style boss: Jon, I need those specs by 5!
Jon: Go Bears!

sarahell, Wednesday, 11 October 2023 17:20 (seven months ago) link

Roll Tide

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 11 October 2023 18:13 (seven months ago) link

v good!

sarahell, Wednesday, 11 October 2023 19:15 (seven months ago) link

I am not so upset at this person right now, they totally have my back. I have theirs. This has been a good opportunity to self-examine

brimstead, Wednesday, 11 October 2023 19:48 (seven months ago) link

Just found out my boss thinks that earthquake insurance doesn’t exist in California (it was … banned?…18mo ago according to her) and it’s because the insurance companies know that the govt is going to cause a man made earthquake soon.

Just texted her a govt link proving that you can indeed still get earthquake insurance.

just1n3, Friday, 20 October 2023 03:44 (six months ago) link

There was a violent incident at my work last week - an attempted carjacking that wasn't recognized as such and the person ended up inside our building with my coworkers trying to help them. The person punched,knocked down, dragged, verbally abused 3 of my coworkers. 1 of the 3 managed to push the person out of the building. Truly awful. I found out yesterday that another coworker, who was not onsite during any of this, told the coworker who managed to get the person out of the building that they should have done more to subdue and detain the person. I am livid. My coworker didn't identify the person who said this to them but I have a strong suspicion (based on past behavior) that it is one of my team.

Jaq, Friday, 20 October 2023 13:44 (six months ago) link

jesssssssssssssssssssus fuck. nobody takes a job thinking they're going to have to physically restrain a violent stranger (well unless their job is related to that), judging someone who had to do that while not even being there, what the actual fuck.

real warm grandpa (Neanderthal), Friday, 20 October 2023 14:29 (six months ago) link

xxp It hasn't been banned, but many/most insurance companies are looking for ways to get out of California. Florida, too. I don't think it has anything to do with a government plot to cause an earthquake, though.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 20 October 2023 23:41 (six months ago) link

In Cali it’s about fire

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Saturday, 21 October 2023 01:02 (six months ago) link

Yes, I mean, earthquakes are not new and have been baked into the pricing for a long time, but the vastly increased fire risk has made the market nearly impossible.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Saturday, 21 October 2023 16:12 (six months ago) link

The CA earthquake insurance thing was a thing … over a decade ago …

sarahell, Sunday, 22 October 2023 03:20 (six months ago) link

there is this one department who literally can't avoid providing contradictory deadlines, likely because they c&p things incorrectly.

I get a semi-annoyed message today on one ticket, harassing me for an update "cos it's due today". the body of the ticket with the instructions addresses me by name and says "Please review by 11/7", and this is what I saw and registered first. but the ticket due date was set to 11/2, which I didn't initially notice because I'd already read the body. and apparently *that* was the right one.

same department sends me another ticket, which says in the instructions that I have until 11/14 to complete the attached questionnaire and send it back. they send me an email as well with instructions for this ticket, which says I have until 11/7.

really gives me a lot of faith

real warm grandpa (Neanderthal), Thursday, 2 November 2023 17:56 (six months ago) link

so on the ticket that I was told was due today instead of 11/7, the instructions said they'd authored the pages, and that I just needed to review for accuracy and give any feedback if anything was wrong.

After going in and reviewing, they weren't even finished, like all of the pages were full of untailored content. so I reached out and asked about it and they acted dumbfounded as to why I was confused and after a conversation that made me feel like I was taking crazy pills, I finally sussed out that they meant they authored everything they were able to and didn't have enough information to finish the rest, so they were leaving that for me to do. which is very different from "hey this is done, please review it and leave feedback".

so I politely said I'm not finishing this today and they can have it 11/7

real warm grandpa (Neanderthal), Thursday, 2 November 2023 20:54 (six months ago) link

Given that I've been working since I was 14 years old, I've developed what I consider a pretty strong work ethic and willingness to do certain tasks that might not be my favorite. Couple that with having spent almost all of my professional career working in small companies/firms/teams, I've never really considered myself as being the type to consider themselves "above" certain types of work. Like, sure I'll take notes if needed, or schedule meetings, no problem.

That said, I'm feeling really taken advantage of right now and I'm really struggling to not blow up at my new manager. For the past three weeks he's decided that, for whatever inscrutable reason, he doesn't want his actual administrative assistant to schedule meetings, he wants me to set them up. At first it was just one meeting, then two, nothing big. Just casual, "hey, will you send out an invite for this meeting to the team". Since I'm attending 'em, it made some level of sense. Well. Now this has blossomed into me being responsible for scheduling vast series of meetings and workshops with multiple departments, outside consultants and various researchers. Week-long conferences that break down into individual one-hour sessions with different invite lists at each. I'm spending 5-6 hours a day coordinating calendars, emailing assistants, rescheduling meetings and cross-indexing calendar openings. It's insane. And driving me batshit. Not only is this an absolutely enormous headache, but it's meaning I have to wait until after hours most days to perform my actual job and duties.

Like, I don't want to be the "why the fuck am I doing this" type, but also, the longer this goes on and the more complex this gets, I want to be like, "dude, I didn't get a master's degree, a professional license and gain 23 years of experience to be your admin assistant, when you already have one".

(And in case it's not clear, no disrespect to administrative assistants, it's a hard job and I have mad respect for them, which this whole experience has only strengthened. It's just... that's not the job I was hired to do!)

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 7 November 2023 22:06 (six months ago) link

You need to talk to the manager, jvc! It’s either that or go Bartleby with the repetition of the phrase “That’s beyond the scope of my role here.”

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Wednesday, 8 November 2023 12:13 (six months ago) link

scope creep is a real menace when it has to do with your job roles

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Wednesday, 8 November 2023 13:42 (six months ago) link

I was used to working at a pretty small museum where everybody kinda did everything to help each other out. And it worked because we were all close and the scale was so small.

When I started working at a really big museum, it took me a while to adjust. We had one upper level guy on our crew that really kept an eye out for people doing things that were outside of their scope and I got fussed at pretty regularly because someone in another department would ask me to do something and I would happily do it.

At first it grated on me, but eventually I realized that if I did this one little thing to be nice, the person who asked it of me would assume that this was a thing that people in my department did and they would then always request that of us. Over time, we would wind up with all of these bullshit tasks that somebody else should be doing which hurt our productivity and is possibly taking work (or a job) away from someone else.

Cow_Art, Wednesday, 8 November 2023 14:29 (six months ago) link

There was a group that did X,Y and Z at my job. Some of it was extracurricular but they had a reason peer support network and some domain-specific knowledge. They all left for greener pastures. My group inherited this stuff because we were already planning the next phase of X and were somewhat versed in Y. Z could be largely peer-supported.

We get asked about Y and Z all the time. The group that left wasn't actually proficient at X and did many, many things badly. Ideally my job would be mostly working out the ideal way to do X. But here we are!

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Wednesday, 8 November 2023 14:42 (six months ago) link

I recently found myself volunteering to help out another department (still under the marketing umbrella, but not strictly speaking "my team") just to have something to do all day. It's worked out well because now I have enough work that I can justify my existence to myself, and the organization sees me as more valuable and has extended my contract through the end of December 2024. I don't recommend this course of action to everyone, but it's worked for me in this one instance.

Tahuti Watches L&O:SVU Reruns Without His Ape (unperson), Wednesday, 8 November 2023 14:52 (six months ago) link

my fatal flaw is being a people pleaser who can't stand anybody being 'disappointed' in him so I wound up doing a lot of stuff I shouldn't and like Cow_Art says, then it became expected of me, and my boss kinda rightfully said "well you did it before, why wouldn't they expect you to do it again".

definitely fight scope creep because it might sound pedantic and territorial but it's really fuckin' important.

a very very unfair (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 8 November 2023 15:12 (six months ago) link

less than an hour after I type this, I'm in a class observing, and I tell the instructor I'm here as a fly on the wall, since I'll be backing up the supervisor tomorrow, and within ten minutes, he asks me to answer a complicated billing question for the class.

I said I'm observing, not teaching for you! I shut that down pretty quickly

a very very unfair (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 8 November 2023 16:07 (six months ago) link

Yeah, I just need to work out the right approach. I broached it once, last week, in a sort of lighter tone like, "I'm not sure this is something I should be taking on right now given X, Y and Z on my plate". He kind of laughed and said, "well someone's gotta do it". So yeah, I need to figure out a constructive way to address it more seriously.

Unfortunately I'm afraid I'm going to get the usual shitty middle manager, "wow you aren't being a team player" dismissive shit.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 8 November 2023 16:08 (six months ago) link

"no, it's just that I'm the catcher and you're asking me why I didn't haul in the fly ball in center field"

a very very unfair (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 8 November 2023 17:04 (six months ago) link

other person: what's my class's assignment after this training?

me at closing time last night: I'll check on the assignment for your class

other person 10 minutes after I log on this morning: any updates?

you mean in the thirty minutes of work that elapsed since my last statement?

a very very unfair (Neanderthal), Thursday, 9 November 2023 14:48 (six months ago) link

So the issue I mentioned above has really kind of come to a head and I've requested a 1:1 later today to address it more directly.

Short version, I again spent about 35% of my hours last week emailing admin assistants to coordinate and schedule meetings. But the last straw was yesterday, after two solid days of design workshop meetings, literally the only time my new boss addressed me directly was at the very end when a question came up about scheduling the next round and he looks at me, in front of a room full of senior leaders at our company and outside consultants, and says, "jon/via/chi, scheduling is your area, why don't you get started on coordinating our calendars". Which then led to me being cornered after the meeting with a long list of questions from these senior leaders asking me about calendar openings and scheduling meetings that have absolutely zero to do with me, my position, or even my department.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 15 November 2023 14:32 (five months ago) link

I'm a (very reluctant and disgruntled) EA and this whole thing is insane to me. While I'd love someone else to step in and do the thankless bullshit I have to do daily, I can't help but wonder what the heck is this guy's actual admin doing?! You were right to request a 1:1. Hope it goes well.

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Wednesday, 15 November 2023 15:27 (five months ago) link

Thanks and, again, I really hope its clear that I'm not bashing anyone in that position! It's an often thankless task and I really go out of my way to do things on my own instead of furthering burdening their load.

The time it's eating out of my schedule to these tasks is one thing, and is annoying, but the larger concern is that I'm now being sold to some pretty senior people at our company as "the guy who schedules meetings" and not for any of the other valuable experience and knowledge I bring to the table.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 15 November 2023 15:44 (five months ago) link

So my meeting with my boss about the whole thing was... fine-ish? On the plus side, he did hear, validate and admit his part in how a false perception of my responsibilities/role might have been picked up by others and said he'd help to ensure others know my role is not limited to just scheduling things. The negative side was that he just fundamentally believes that our project managers should schedule all meetings, no matter how time-consuming and laborious, and that is not the duty of our admin team. Which... is fundamentally not how things have worked here and is a complete reversal of the understanding/process in place for the last five years I've been here. But he's the new boss so I guess that's just shrug.gif and his prerogative if he wants to bog down our time with those tasks.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 16 November 2023 20:23 (five months ago) link

Why do so many corporate meetings seem like skirmishes in a never-ending turf war?

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 16 November 2023 20:27 (five months ago) link

Probably because so many middle managers are very precious about their "turf" and, ime, too many of them think they are playing mind games with everyone else but none of those perceived opponents actually give a shit, so it makes for weird vibes.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 16 November 2023 20:32 (five months ago) link

Once again, while I was on vacation, my boss added classes for me to teach that start tomorrow. This is a much more minor course than last time, just 4 hours each day, but a course I've never taught before and there are missing details I have to ask follow-up questions on. fortunately I had surprisingly few emails in my box so I noticed it a bit more quickly this time.

I'll be fine because I am at least vaguely familiar with the course and a quality bullshitter, but I've given up trying to give dude feedback on being more organized. He always acknowledges, commits, and then just does what he always does. Oh well. I get along with him, but he is very much missing the 'communication' skill.

a very very unfair (Neanderthal), Monday, 27 November 2023 15:32 (five months ago) link

(today is my first day back, a detail I left out)

a very very unfair (Neanderthal), Monday, 27 November 2023 15:34 (five months ago) link

lol, gets dumber. the course I'm teaching is for new hires only, as it's an introduction to our ticket management system. Only, these aren't new hires - they're existing employees who are struggling with the system.

Up until recently, once a new hire graduated our class, they were out of our hands. The managers on their permanent teams would handle any performance issues because they're the ones already evaluating these people regularly. But since these managers have collectively shit the bed, leadership is starting to have my team intervene in these cases, which doesn't make sense.

So the managers of this team approached my boss to ask if we can deliver a refresher training, help them understand the proper way to start tickets for their team. He said we can't - because we teach the basic functionality of the tool, but the permanent teams are the one who are supposed to teach their team's way of doing things within that system, which we are not privy to. so they're like "well ok just give them the intro training again I guess".

which is dumb because they already know these things and will be bored. Now, if I'd had a week and a half of notice, I would have taken the training and modified it in advance, after days of working with managers to understand the problem in question and the scope of what they're looking to achieve and we could have gotten it done in less than 4 hours.

since I only get a day to prepare, I'll still do my best to modify the curriculum, but they're probably going to ask a bunch of questions I can't answer and then complain to their managers after. (19 years of knowledge of how communication works in this firm - I know how this will go)

a very very unfair (Neanderthal), Monday, 27 November 2023 18:21 (five months ago) link

finally got the information I needed to have an informed opinion of what was expected this morning. nailed first half of training, bombed second half due to insufficient time to prepare. (seriously, after two weeks out, giving me a new course to teach the next day is never gonna go well).

what really threw me off, though, was my mother yelling GODDAMMIT from inches away from my door. Not only was I leading training, I was recording it, so now I have to inspect the recording and see if it was audible, and then report the incident to my boss.

I was really mad. she knew i was teaching a class and last thing i need now is to get suspended or fired over something I can't control (that isn't gonna happen in this case, but....I don't exactly want to lose goodwill)

a very very unfair (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 28 November 2023 22:12 (five months ago) link

I should mention, it isn't just that I haven't taught the course before, it's that I'm not even an expert on the subject and needed time to brush up and refamiliarize myself with the tool itself, which I haven't used in months, because a) I haven't needed to, but b) I was told I WASN'T TEACHING CLASSES ANYMORE.

a very very unfair (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 28 November 2023 22:15 (five months ago) link

The negative side was that he just fundamentally believes that our project managers should schedule all meetings, no matter how time-consuming and laborious, and that is not the duty of our admin team. Which... is fundamentally not how things have worked here and is a complete reversal of the understanding/process in place for the last five years I've been here. But he's the new boss so I guess that's just shrug.gif and his prerogative if he wants to bog down our time with those tasks.

wait so you have project managers for project managers? It's that involved? ... I guess, from my limited experience, project managers schedule and organize meetings and that's what they do? ... And some are much better than others (I am sure you are one of the great ones), and some are like this guy who organizes weekly meetings my coworkers go to (but I am not included) ... and this guy has been at weekly meetings about this project for, at this point, almost 6 months, but he seems to only vaguely understand what my coworker is talking about and what the key issues are ... like, how do you not absorb this stuff after doing it for this long?? He has probably listened to my coworker discuss this project and these issues more than I have, and I somehow have a rate of understanding inversely proportional to the amount this guy gets paid vs. how much I get paid?

(this post is mostly let's bitch about stupid, annoying consultants we get stuck working with.)

sarahell, Thursday, 30 November 2023 05:58 (five months ago) link

and this guy apparently is not bad "as far as project managers go" (in the words of my co-worker)

sarahell, Thursday, 30 November 2023 06:02 (five months ago) link

Yeah, I guess I didn't really clarify that part.. the scheduling in question isn't for one of the projects I'm managing. I'd absolutely expect to schedule all of those, this is for my supervisor's pet planning project.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 30 November 2023 15:01 (five months ago) link

I am consistently shocked by how much absolute fucking idiots get paid to do their jobs badly. But alas, I am apparently unemployable, so...

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Thursday, 30 November 2023 15:52 (five months ago) link

xp - I wish I could help run interference for you with these people tbh. Basically, what I would have said (and I have been in similar situations, though I realize that I can play the gender card and you can't) is: Hey Newboss, *Joan (the admin assistant, I am calling her Joan after Joan from Mad Men) normally did this for your predecessor. She should be the one to do this. She's got a whole system. I could do it if she's slammed, but you should ask her first.

sarahell, Thursday, 30 November 2023 18:48 (five months ago) link

love when the thing that determines whether a practice is allowed or not depends solely on the mood and faulty memory of the manager in charge that morning. cool, yes, I'll end that practice that has become commonplace for a year because you didn't have your Cookie Crisp this morning

STUPID CRAP FACE (Neanderthal), Friday, 8 December 2023 18:11 (five months ago) link

Opened one of my work inboxes this morning to ~50 emails (I know, I got off easy) from people around the globe reply-alling to an obvious scam.

Tahuti Watches L&O:SVU Reruns Without His Ape (unperson), Monday, 11 December 2023 20:50 (five months ago) link

I wish the incompetent coworker who has been posting about the general strike in support of Palestine actually participated in said strike today as opposed to attempting to do work

sarahell, Monday, 11 December 2023 22:47 (five months ago) link

I'd like to take a moment away from bitching to say that we had a fantastic time at our office holiday party this weekend. It was a black tie party at one of the nicer hotels in town, and it was a blast. I feel fortunate to work with this group of exceptional people.

OK, back on your heads.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 11 December 2023 23:43 (five months ago) link

second non-complaint post (I know, I know - we don't want it to catch on).

i hit my 19 year anniversary with this firm a few weeks ago.

mind boggling to me that I've spent almost half of my life here. had only just written my first ILX shitposts to troll Geir a few months before starting

STUPID CRAP FACE (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 12 December 2023 20:48 (five months ago) link

getting us back on topic...

they updated the agent materials for qualified status changes for health for the second time. to make the updates, they sent authors questionnaires to fill out, and then the content team went and applied the changes.

I didn't catch it at the time because I was only answering the questions given, but nowhere in the questionnaire did it actually ask when the change should be effective, just the time that was allowable to report it. Companies vary on this - sometimes it will be effective the day of the event (retroactive), other times could be like first of following month. Only event that is required to be retro is birth.

the content team wrote the content assuming changes are always effective retro to date of event. so a team that had changes effective first of following month and answered the questionnaire would have had their materials updated with incorrect info all over the place.

I can't wait to send the email reporting this

Formica Jordan (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 13 December 2023 17:11 (five months ago) link

any time I take a half day, someone will do something inexplicably bad that will require me drafting lengthy feedback for them, and the person who's supposed to fill in for me when I'm out will lose their internet for the day.

fuck you Murphy! lol

Formica Jordan (Neanderthal), Friday, 15 December 2023 17:37 (four months ago) link

An old friend of the family got me this part-time job at the local library for special collections and exhibits. It isn't much but it's getting my foot back in the door. It's great.

I get invited to library fundraising and social events. Unfortunately this means I have to socialize with a board member who literally hit on me even though I was clearly with someone else.

Someone brought it up to him and now he's all "I'm cool with just friends", however I still have to see him.

It's not a huge deal to go to a two hour event but so thinks he was crushing pretty hard and as a muckety muck, it was maybe inappropriate. Also "I know you through xyz person" is borderline creepy.

I have stayed home from some gatherings because of it and I don't think I will stick with this job.

Confessions of an Oatmeal Eater (I M Losted), Saturday, 16 December 2023 18:27 (four months ago) link

this would be something you would bring up with your supervisor! You shouldn't have to stay home! Ughhh ... I am so sorry you are dealing with that and that you feel like the burden of behavior modification is on you, rather than the board member.

sarahell, Monday, 18 December 2023 15:43 (four months ago) link

"Neanderthal, can you create a pre-test? and find some test accounts to use in it?"

"ok"

"hmm good first try but I don't think I'd put the test account scenarios in this pre-test"

....

Formica Jordan (Neanderthal), Monday, 18 December 2023 17:06 (four months ago) link

Not a co-worker, but I want to vent about companies that are really bad at the holidays. So we had a consultant drop by our office this morning and make a big production about hand delivering expensive bottles of wine to our department. Which would be nice and maybe thoughtful, except they were only given to five of our nine staff members. Do people not see how thoughtless and insulting this is to make a public production out of handing gifts out to just some of the staff right in front of everyone?

For fuck's sake, send a basket addressed to the entire department/team/group. It isn't hard.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 19 December 2023 15:42 (four months ago) link

if i was receiving I'd have to pop it open on the spot. there's no other way

maf you one two (maffew12), Tuesday, 19 December 2023 16:54 (four months ago) link

xp Maybe the public display is the point?

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 19 December 2023 16:55 (four months ago) link

I'm sure it was the point, to make a big deal of generosity. But it's really landed poorly. This is a consultant that every single one of us works with on a daily basis, so it's not like there was a rhyme or reason for who got the gift.

To be clear, I don't give a fuck. But I now have two co-workers who didn't get the gifts vocally and openly very pissed off and one, who did, very embarrassed for being put in the awkward position. My point is more that sending one large gift basket addressed to the whole group would have avoided all of this shit.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 19 December 2023 17:55 (four months ago) link

that's completely tone deaf and ridiculous. pretty much just asking to create fissures in the group by doing that.

Formica Jordan (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 19 December 2023 19:25 (four months ago) link

boss, who is giving me feedback on an MS Forms questionnaire I created: I'm not sure what you mean by this question, can you explain?
Me: This is literally your question, I copied it from your source document verbatim.

Formica Jordan (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 19 December 2023 19:27 (four months ago) link

lol, what was boss's response?

that's when I reach for my copy of Revolver (WmC), Tuesday, 19 December 2023 19:31 (four months ago) link

"oh my god I'm just doing too many things this holiday season"

Formica Jordan (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 19 December 2023 19:34 (four months ago) link

No shit.

I had a boss once who would have taken the gifts and placed them in a box, first come, first serve.

Plus some people are tee totalers anyway, isn't wine kind of politically incorrect? I've seen clients just give a big box or basket and you can take wine or cheese, first come, first serve.

Confessions of an Oatmeal Eater (I M Losted), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 00:06 (four months ago) link

It's like candy - some people are diabetic. You ask if people want chocolate boxes - if not, have an alternative.

Confessions of an Oatmeal Eater (I M Losted), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 00:07 (four months ago) link

I don't want to bother my poor supervisor with this about randy board member - only if the topic comes up. I don't know her that well. Everyone is traumatized from local politics these days.

I grew up with the nabobs from the neighboring city and it's always been this pissing contest whose clout is bigger. I mean I could badmouth the guy to the school superintendent and he would be OVAH, that's kind of sad and scary to be so lethal.

Confessions of an Oatmeal Eater (I M Losted), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 00:28 (four months ago) link

Oh and someone wanted me to compile a list of Iranian films - which normally I'm happy to do, but it kind of stinks that they do this now because they "feel bad" that they had been previously ignorant about Iran.

Confessions of an Oatmeal Eater (I M Losted), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 21:10 (four months ago) link

"Neaner Neaner, can we add these two people returning from a leave of absence to your training class? they've been gone over a year and were relatively new at the time so they've forgotten everything"

"um...we're on Day 8 already. how are they going to make up 60 hours of material without feeling completely lost?"

*receive 6 Out of Office for the holiday messages, including one from the person who asked me, radio silence from the whopping 2 people who are actually here*

Formica Jordan (Neanderthal), Thursday, 21 December 2023 15:06 (four months ago) link

"we're not having class on 12/26, as the class is based in Canada, who observes Boxing Day"
"actually, only Ontario observes Boxing Day, and we have 6 people outside of Ontario who the system will not let bill this day as a company holiday"
"have them use a Floating Holiday"
"Canada's policy is people hired in December don't get them until January"
'have them use vacation'
"also does not accrue until January for December hires"
"uhh...."

Ghidorah, the three-headed Explorah (Neanderthal), Friday, 22 December 2023 18:47 (four months ago) link

my boss is the king of "making up rules on the spot". and not documenting things.

for people provided special coaching due to poor performance, there are differing policies for how to deliver and conduct these coaching sessions for agents based in San Juan, PR, and Canada. this has been true for years.

none of it is documented anywhere. he just expects people will know. he also created sample documents for the HR-required emails we have to send to offer this special coaching, where the business case is made for why it's needed, and his examples all showed simple one-sentence bullet points, and now he's giving feedback to my report that they should be writing several sentences for each observation...which is just something he arbitrarily decided right now.

Ghidorah, the three-headed Explorah (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 27 December 2023 17:40 (four months ago) link

benefits in Canada are different than health benefits in the US. we frequently hire people in Canada, often to staff US-based clients, but sometimes to staff Canada based clients. There is nothing in our client list to tell us which clients are Canadian vs US-based, and as a result, the default assumption usually is that they are going to US based clients.

so we hired a bunch of people in December that were going to Canadian clients, and nobody had the discussion about possibly matching the curriculum to that (since we have a Canadian benefits training curriculum too), so now for weeks our instructors have been teaching Canadian hires about US benefits that they are not going to be handling...when Canadian benefits take much less time to cover.

and I'm being told 'ehh this is normal who cares'.

ok!

Disco Biollante (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 2 January 2024 20:41 (four months ago) link

1) Fuck you
2) Birthdays are for children
3) Are you trolling me by asking mind numbing obvious questions?

brimstead, Tuesday, 2 January 2024 21:35 (four months ago) link

Stop. Messaging. Me.

brimstead, Tuesday, 2 January 2024 21:35 (four months ago) link

otm

Disco Biollante (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 2 January 2024 21:55 (four months ago) link

We had a Christmas party after hours, and I wanted to curate the music.

The list I submitted had something for everyone, but I included The Fall's Hark the Herald Angels Sing among other things.

The planner said my list might be taken as "disrespectful". Okay fine but who got to DJ the party?

Captain Schmoozo of the SS Horndog, the aforementioned board member, who played a "tasteful" selection of canonical jazz and "respectful" folk.
Miserabilist.

Confessions of an Oatmeal Eater (I M Losted), Thursday, 4 January 2024 21:29 (four months ago) link

We had a contest for who could DJ the Holiday party.

The list I submitted had something for everyone, but I included The Fall's Hark the Herald Angels Sing among other things.

The planner said my list might be taken as "disrespectful". Okay fine but who got to DJ the party?

Captain Schmoozo of the SS Horndog, the aforementioned board member, who played a "tasteful" selection of canonical jazz and "respectful" folk.
Miserabilist.

Confessions of an Oatmeal Eater (I M Losted), Thursday, 4 January 2024 21:31 (four months ago) link

I mean, personally I think "Please, Daddy, Don't Get Drunk This Christmas" is plenty "tasteful". What's your problem?

Confessions of an Oatmeal Eater (I M Losted), Thursday, 4 January 2024 21:40 (four months ago) link

I don't know why, but the sound of a plastic spoon continually scraping the bottom of a plastic yogurt cup is one of the most irritating sounds to me.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 8 January 2024 16:36 (four months ago) link

when I was off for two weeks on bereavement (and then another 1.5 for PTO), each time I was given an assignment to start the day I returned, with little to no instruction or guidance, and expected to hit the ground running like, that day.

meanwhile, I was given a class to kick off for someone else who was on PTO to take over. I gave him a detailed layout of where things are now, what I'm doing, what he needs to do, and he has yet to even acknowledge or respond to anything midway through the day. I have to hand this off as I have another assignment I had to ignore while I took this last week.

we don't get very many emails in our role, so he can't be still 'catching up on emails', particularly since 60% of the office was out on PTO the weeks he was gone. hell, I didn't have that many to clear when I was gone two weeks during peak time of year.

Disco Biollante (Neanderthal), Monday, 8 January 2024 17:13 (four months ago) link

I don't know why

I suspect it has to do with the "continual" quality.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 8 January 2024 18:20 (four months ago) link

I don't know why, but the sound of a plastic spoon continually scraping the bottom of a plastic yogurt cup is one of the most irritating sounds to me.

I had a family member who did this a LOT. You can expect 5, maybe 10 minutes of this once he gets to the end of the cup, and it's the most fucking irritating thing in the world if you're alone with him and that's the only thing you hear. (FWIW, it's almost certain he's far into the Asperger's spectrum, and this is the least of his many habits that suggest this. We've thought about getting him tested or something, but he's so advanced in age that it wouldn't be worth it at this point.)

birdistheword, Monday, 8 January 2024 21:38 (four months ago) link

I got an assignment to do a page for an online collection, yay.

However, someone at the library asked me to put together examples of my design work for a staff exhibit.

I balked - I am too busy to assemble this bullshit on short notice. The This is the second fucking job where mgmt has demanded off the books personal contributions. Not to mention the fact that I had an arm injury, Im in physical therapy, and it's just depressing to revisit my old work right now.

I hope I find something new soon.

Confessions of an Oatmeal Eater (I M Losted), Wednesday, 10 January 2024 23:42 (four months ago) link

Disco, do you get shit dumped on you and told its a "compliment" because you know what you're doing? And find there is no one around to help you?

Happens ALL THE TIME.

Confessions of an Oatmeal Eater (I M Losted), Wednesday, 10 January 2024 23:43 (four months ago) link

when you announce a new process last September, but as of yet you still haven't documented the process in our SOPs, and you continue to insist we should be using this new process, but as of right now, the only documentation of said process is an email from last September that is missing details and occasional word-of-mouth mention in meetings, I will ignore it and pretend it doesn't exist. especially when I pointed out the lack of transparency back in October.

Disco Biollante (Neanderthal), Thursday, 11 January 2024 19:56 (four months ago) link

I have a coworker who is such a grumbling, miserable troll with an all-encompassing hatred of change and new technology, that if someone pitched her as character for The Office they would get laughed out of the writer's room for her being too unbelievable.

Anyway, back in 2019 we finally convinced her to let us dispose of the old fax machine that had sat in our copy room, unplugged and gathering dust for at least a decade as I was told. Walked in the office yesterday to overhear her on the phone with purchasing trying to get permission to buy a new fax machine because, "you know some of us don't think scanning works right and I just don't trust it, these people who complain about fax machines are just dumb kids that never used them and don't know how much better they are". All of this despite several of us, repeatedly, showing her how our copier can be used to fax things if she found it absolutely necessary.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 11 January 2024 20:13 (four months ago) link

I'd hate to see her apartment.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 11 January 2024 20:16 (four months ago) link

So would I, considering the state of her workstation alone.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 11 January 2024 20:17 (four months ago) link

This is the same co-worker who wanted to share the slides from a virtual meeting with us and did so by taking photos of each of the slides with her phone, emailed each photo to herself in individual emails, then printed each of the emails, then scanned them in to convert them to PDF and emailed them each to us. Individually.

I wish I could be making this up.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 11 January 2024 20:20 (four months ago) link

omg

a (waterface), Thursday, 11 January 2024 20:22 (four months ago) link

lol old school fax machines are riskier from a security standpoint because people leave confidential documents at them all of the time.

xpost omfg dying at the taking pics of the slides with phone

Disco Biollante (Neanderthal), Thursday, 11 January 2024 20:24 (four months ago) link

Know who still uses FAX machines? The IRS.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 11 January 2024 20:29 (four months ago) link

xxxp that's outstanding

kinder, Thursday, 11 January 2024 20:51 (four months ago) link

"why are the slides all crooked?"

'sorry, I thought this class wasn't going to all be members of Big Photocopy, this presentation is over"

Disco Biollante (Neanderthal), Thursday, 11 January 2024 20:58 (four months ago) link

a new hire lost her father in December. I wanted to make sure she got to take bereavement time AND keep the job, so I worked with leadership to create a plan that she could rejoin after bereavement and get caught up on everything she missed. I also secured a trainer to lead a one-on-one training session for our phone systems scheduled for her on the 22nd. everything was going fine.

this afternoon, one of our other leaders comes in, says starting Tuesday she'll move to the next phase of training, despite her being nowhere closed to finished (there's still 4+ days of prerequisite material she hasn't learned). it's like telling someone they begin training with the varsity basketball team next week when they haven't even finished learning the rules of the game yet.

she also says "hey Neanderthal's special phone training is on 1/22 but we can move that no problem if need be". nevermind the person leading it might not be available another day.

i was calm in my response but...pretty damn heated.

Disco Biollante (Neanderthal), Friday, 12 January 2024 22:51 (four months ago) link

"so, don't name this new Class after the file format, ie GifHandler, because that's not important and we may have other methods later that used the same file format for a different thing, name it after what we use the contents for."

PR is raised, new method: GraphicsInformationFormatHandler

koogs, Monday, 15 January 2024 09:16 (three months ago) link

I'm out tomorrow and Friday. this has been on the Tracking spreadsheet AND my boss's calendar since November, and I sent my entire team a reminder today.

my boss is out from 9 - 11 tomorrow and he puts on his out of office message and lists me as the sole contact for three things, then left for the day. really hoping someone tries to msg me during those two hours tomorrow so he gets called out on it (which...wouldn't be the first time)

Disco Biollante (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 16 January 2024 22:42 (three months ago) link

Use a payphone and a disguised voice to leave 6 increasingly panicked messages for him.

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Wednesday, 17 January 2024 02:46 (three months ago) link

"mein name ist...Karl Magnite. I vas looking for sur colleeg and hees not here."

Disco Biollante (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 17 January 2024 03:38 (three months ago) link

I have a 401k loan that I need to pay off so I can take another one. hate to, but it's necessary in my circumstance. this is a fairly easy process - you request an invoice, it gives you three different payoff dates to choose from, and your payroll deductions for the loan continue until paid off, in case you change your mind. So the payoff amounts are supposed to decrease for each payoff date, reflecting those deductions.

I requested mine, and my payoff amounts went up for each payoff date. This is usually something you'd see with someone on an unpaid leave, so, obviously a mistake. I actually administered this process for 401(k) clients at my company for 7 years, so I did some sleuthing and seemed to have figured it out - back in 2022, someone accidentally changed my job code in the system, and as a result, they had to issue my paycheck off-cycle, so there was a delay in reporting the payroll deduction, which must have reamortized the loan.

so I put all of this detail in the ticket, with screenshots and old paystubs. they assign the case to the wrong team, ignore me when I point this out to them, let the ticket sit for a week and a half, and then closed it saying "we can't figure it out, just pay the extra amount and we'll refund any overage to you".

Nevermind the fact that I'm not going to just pay more than I owe by like $250 only to have to wait several weeks to get it back, there's the possibility that the processing of the payoff might be delayed, and there's already a 16-day wait period before I can take a new loan....this is 5k we're talking about here, I can't be out of pocket that much money for more than the three weeks I'm already committed to.

so now I have to re-open the ticket. if it wasn't against the code of conduct I"d ask for them to give me access to my own account and I'd fix it in five minutes.

never trust a big book and a simile (Neanderthal), Monday, 22 January 2024 22:50 (three months ago) link

I wouldn't trust them to give me a refund of the overage if they're that screwed up on the loan.

nickn, Monday, 22 January 2024 22:59 (three months ago) link

yeah I mean that's the other thing!

never trust a big book and a simile (Neanderthal), Monday, 22 January 2024 23:07 (three months ago) link

the refund process is an automated one, but if the system seems me as inactive, it's charging me interest on what it sees as a 'missed payment' which I don't actually owe, so the refund calc might be wrong too!

never trust a big book and a simile (Neanderthal), Monday, 22 January 2024 23:09 (three months ago) link

12 developers in a two hour meeting about sizing tickets like we haven't been sizing tickets for four years already. New manager obviously thinks we're doing it wrong and that arranging fruits by complexity and guessing the area of France will somehow help.

koogs, Tuesday, 23 January 2024 17:07 (three months ago) link

Cool cool cool, what our department with crushingly low morale across the board definitely needed was the new boss dropping the word "restructuring" in reference to our department multiple times in different meetings over the last three weeks while refusing to add any context, answer questions about it or clarify anything. That makes people feel super good and motivated buddy, yes indeed.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 25 January 2024 17:18 (three months ago) link

The beatings will continue until morale improves.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 25 January 2024 17:23 (three months ago) link

The meetings will continue until morale improves.

nickn, Thursday, 25 January 2024 17:29 (three months ago) link

One of the companies I work for just hired a new VP instead of promoting my boss into that position (which everybody, including her, more or less expected), so now we're all waiting to see what the repercussions will be. She's definitely not happy about not getting promoted, but her work persona is "super smiley LDS mom," so kinda curious whether the facade will crack.

Tahuti Watches L&O:SVU Reruns Without His Ape (unperson), Thursday, 25 January 2024 17:31 (three months ago) link

had to file an HR complaint about the aforementioned 401k ticket that's been unresolved for almost 3 weeks. on my own company's service center. lol....so great that we invest all of our energy into our client's service centers and neglect the one for our own employees

never trust a big book and a simile (Neanderthal), Friday, 26 January 2024 21:33 (three months ago) link

So Friday morning (1/26), I, along with two other coworkers, I get an email from my newish manager with a really heavy lift for gathering a bunch of information. Not difficult, but tedious, time-consuming and a lot of effort to pull things from various sources, including digging into physical archives to pull things out. The due date is tomorrow, 1/31. The request came to him on 1/9. So it sat in his inbox for two and a half weeks before being shared and now it's an emergency.

On top of that, of the other two people he tasked with this one is working from home due to surgery recovery for another month, so they can be of some help but obviously very limited help in digging through physical files. The other one had been out sick since last week Wednesday and is still sick, as of today. So it's all on me.

I explained to him the challenges and how big of an ask this is in such a short time and he was unapologetic and actually kind of annoyed that I was even bringing it up to him (despite his email explicitly stating, "let me know if there are any challenges in meeting this deadline") and told me to "work the weekend if necessary". Which, just isn't the culture here. At all. There has never been an overtime expectation, in fact our old boss was famous for "we aren't curing cancer, go home" to anyone working after 5. This new guy comes from an entirely different culture (in fact the same one I came to this job specifically to escape) and seems to want to force that on us.

Idk, basically just venting here, but I'm having a hard time with how to address this. The sitting on it for 2.5 weeks thing really gets to me, meaning either a) he did it intentionally for some sort of weird "loyalty" or "stress" test or, b) he is that clueless and doesn't pay any attention. Both are concerning.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 30 January 2024 15:20 (three months ago) link

from my experience, it's almost always B. dude got the request on 1/9, slept on it, got a reminder from someone higher up who basically said "what's the status", and he freaked out because he forgot about it and is now putting the pressure on you.

saying "work the weekend if necessary" is such a bullshit 'fuck you'. is there HR you can speak to? I know that's an escalation a lot of people don't want to do because even though you're protected from retaliation, we know people disguise retaliation as "concerns with performance", but....I think you have a valid right here, and if there's no expectation in your role requirements of overtime, or at least, not an expectation that you have to give up your weekend at a moment's notice, and with the late notice of the request....I think you have a valid case.

never trust a big book and a simile (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 30 January 2024 15:34 (three months ago) link

Yeah, I've been weighing that. The whole thing has just been annoying, like this is a case where an apology about the short notice would go along way, instead he just doubles down on the "just get it done" attitude. Also, he was well aware that the two other people he tasked with this weren't around... that part sticks in my craw too.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 30 January 2024 15:50 (three months ago) link

Fuck that guy. I wouldn't go to HR, I would just start working on the project at what I considered a reasonable pace, and every time he asked what was up I would just say, "Yeah, I'm working on it, I should have something for you soon." No timeline, no nothing. Eventually deliver, of course, but not until it's done properly. And if someone higher up than your immediate manager gets involved, explain the situation to them.

Tahuti Watches L&O:SVU Reruns Without His Ape (unperson), Tuesday, 30 January 2024 15:56 (three months ago) link

now have a meeting scheduled w/ HR tomorrow morning to discuss my concerns w/ the service center who still hasn't resolved my 401k issue 3 weeks going.

19 years, my first ever convo with HR. not looking forward to it because I'm pessimistic it will do anything but I have to at least try.

never trust a big book and a simile (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 30 January 2024 21:34 (three months ago) link

wrapping up my training preparation and got access to one of the client's HW recordkeeping systems to get familiar with it. this client, mind you, is already live, with agents taking calls.

I look at the panel the agents use to provide customers the overall premiums for their benefits, which the header says are Monthly totals. I go into the behind the scenes GUI panel that supplies this data, and it shows the customer is paid bi-weekly. I do more digging and find out everyone at this company is paid bi-weekly.

so I go to compare the numbers, to see if the field that says Monthly is just the bi-weekly premiums recalculated to a monthly total. Nope. They're the same amount. So agents are probably telling customers "this is your monthly deduction" when the deduction is actually "per pay period", making it significantly higher.

this client's been live for years. how in the f-

never trust a big book and a simile (Neanderthal), Thursday, 1 February 2024 19:57 (three months ago) link

i'm being submitted for a potential financial reward for this project. I think part of the reason is my boss's boss feels for me with having to deal with

1) Being asked to build activities that learners will use their tools to perform
2) the tools were going through a redesign that occurred last week, meaning I only had the old version to work from during development
3) The agents have a filtering feature that I STILL haven't fucking seen, and training begins tomorrow. so everything I created is hinging on a feature working the way I think it does in my head, which it probably doesn't.

no wonder I can phone it in and still get rewarded, people are so dumb here that merely treading water is good enough

never trust a big book and a simile (Neanderthal), Monday, 5 February 2024 20:34 (three months ago) link

I mean, Office Space could have been a documentary.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 5 February 2024 20:38 (three months ago) link

no wonder I can phone it in and still get rewarded, people are so dumb here that merely treading water is good enough

If I do like two concrete things a day (and answering an email or showing up for a Zoom meeting count as things), that's a productive day. I genuinely feel like a thief sometimes at the end of the week when I file my timesheet, but I just tell myself I'm on call, like a fireman.

Tahuti Watches L&O:SVU Reruns Without His Ape (unperson), Monday, 5 February 2024 21:05 (three months ago) link

lol just got told by the person in charge that they're not done, won't be done today (as they repeatedly promised), and told me i can only use one of the five clients' tools for most of the week of training. my entire training was built on using all five.

no warning prior that they were running behind or not going to meet deadline, in fact on Thursday morning, anticipated a Friday completion date, then weirdly stopped responding to everybody until 5 minutes ago.

99% chance the live date is now in jeopardy. I'm laughing at this point. esp since we had the chance to move the live date already, which would have bumped training back 9 days, and I was basically the only one who wanted to do it, so it was voted down.

never trust a big book and a simile (Neanderthal), Monday, 5 February 2024 21:58 (three months ago) link

just work as a developer trainer for microsoft.

one guy showed up years ago, had never seen the slides before he arrived, and the slides were for the wrong version of the product. I had one question about populating a certain type of grid on screen and refreshing it, asking whether there was a way to make sure it wouldn't leak memory and slow down until it'd crash, and his answer was "no, it just does that"

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Monday, 5 February 2024 22:30 (three months ago) link

LOL well at least he's honest haha.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Monday, 5 February 2024 22:31 (three months ago) link

lol i'm so glad i'm an expert bullshitter. somehow pulled off 4 hours of training this morning despite having little to no time to prepare with the new tool, and boss's boss is nominating me for a special bonus now.

(I won't get it because only techy folks do but still nice to be recognized).

never trust a big book and a simile (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 6 February 2024 18:16 (three months ago) link

so class is going well, but the team that I mentioned above that left us without functional tools continues to dick us around.

we are halfway through training, and the setup for all 4 client tools was only finished this morning, almost an entire week after it was promised. It has caused frequent problems during our training that my partner and I have had to adapt to on the fly.

the reason they didn't finish? Instead of setting up just the 4 clients going live in February, they set up those PLUS the three going live in April, and inexplicably prioritized two of the April clients over February. When they were asked why by an extremely frustrated leader, they claimed they "didn't know the live dates", even though they've been attending weekly meetings since November, where we routinely go over the agenda document top to bottom, which has the live dates listed in a table at the very top.

then, two of the clients weren't working properly for half the class, so one of the idiots on this team removed access to the training environment in a weird attempt to fix everything, so when they came back from lunch, nobody could access the tool at all.

lol....clown show.

never trust a big book and a simile (Neanderthal), Thursday, 8 February 2024 19:52 (three months ago) link

This sounds odd but I know I won’t be able to find the answer without some serious searching, but what exactly do you do again, Neando? Legit curious, I can sort of describe it in my head (lead education trainings for call center workers or IT help desk people?) but have no idea whether I am otm or not.

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Thursday, 8 February 2024 23:23 (three months ago) link

You pretty much got it.

This time around I'm teaching people how to process life event coverage changes for health benefits and handle the phone calls and such.

never trust a big book and a simile (Neanderthal), Thursday, 8 February 2024 23:43 (three months ago) link

Cool, thanks for answering!!

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Friday, 9 February 2024 00:13 (three months ago) link

Grade 3 class today. 1) a seven-page dayplan, including notes, which links to a 2) Powerpoint with 100 slides (obviously not all for today, but I do get to wade through in search of the ones I need), and 3) a list of six things to do during my last-period planning, headed by a note to "Please complete in the order that I’ve listed them."

#1 priority today: don't get all six things done, and do them in random order.

clemenza, Tuesday, 13 February 2024 13:24 (three months ago) link

boss: deadline, deadline, deadline. we can postpone your holidays until after the deadline if need be.

but also

boss: let's drag 14 people into a meeting to talk about "the anchors that weigh us down" and "the winds that move us forward" for an hour

koogs, Tuesday, 13 February 2024 14:42 (three months ago) link

oh god, that sounds like complete hell.

never trust a big book and a simile (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 13 February 2024 15:13 (three months ago) link

also fuck postponing holidays

never trust a big book and a simile (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 13 February 2024 15:13 (three months ago) link

welp...new project goes live today. found out that for all four clients, they changed call center security protocols as per a company-wide initiative last year, but not one of them updated their agent reference materials, which all have outdated info.

this is shit that could get someone fired for violating it...and the info is wrong. so now spending my morning having to put together a long email to basically say "you must update this immediately and you cannot hold anybody accountable for making a mistake while the info was wrong"

never trust a big book and a simile (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 13 February 2024 15:19 (three months ago) link

(the holiday thing is more that the holiday year runs April - March and you can only take 5 over but that means everybody uses up any excess in March, which is going to impact the work. i have 18 days to take... postponing would allow me to take more over, and not lose them)

koogs, Tuesday, 13 February 2024 15:40 (three months ago) link

ahh gotcha. as long as you don't lose any days.

never trust a big book and a simile (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 13 February 2024 15:42 (three months ago) link

email sent. not looking forward to 45 email clusterfuck that's coming.

but rather figure this out now than 3 months from now, with my company's legal counsel involved.

never trust a big book and a simile (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 13 February 2024 16:01 (three months ago) link

well, the opposite has happened, nobody has responded or even acknowledged even to indicate they're going to look into it.

guessing maybe it's due to how many other things I've reported recently, that they're reacting "oh hey look it's chicken little again, delete", like it's some nitpicky thing and not something that could wind up causing us to violate the terms of our client agreements or get innocent people terminated. i didn't seek out to report this either, just discovered the issue this morning while trying to answer a question for an agent, and if it were a stupid pedantic thing, I could pretend I didn't see it, but it's not.

sigh.

Neanderthal, Tuesday, 13 February 2024 18:46 (three months ago) link

One more thing from that dayplan above: "Mark math time sheets that students did today. Put a small box beside a wrong answer so I can get the students to correct it the next day."

1) I marked and discussed them as they brought them up, so need to. 2) Give me a fucking break!

Tiny victory: I avoided the most onerous task on her checklist, #5, and skipped to #6. Class turned out to be great. Even played the "Bizarre Love Triangle" video for them on Peter Hook's birthday--they were very amused by the falling bodies.

clemenza, Tuesday, 13 February 2024 22:23 (three months ago) link

lol gotta love people who want to micromanage even when they're NOT there

CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 14 February 2024 22:40 (three months ago) link

I kind of lost my shit at work today because someone actually got accused of violating security, and when I investigated, as I knew could happen, the tools they were working from were incorrect. basically, the team's policy had changed to where the customer had to be on the phone to provide information, but the materials that agents use still indicated anybody could call on customer's behalf.

so I had to spend an hour writing a detailed email that stated that the rep should not be held accountable and that no action should be taken against them as a result.

Likewise, another team has the wrong transfer extensions written in their materials....from an old telephony system that doesn't exist anymore. so nobody could figure out how to transfer the call.

it's just absurd that they're basically shitting on a plate and getting mad we can't make salisbury steak

CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 14 February 2024 22:44 (three months ago) link

Senor practice manager, trying to get me in trouble, to other manager: "I'm concerned over what was taught. we don't use the term 'XXX' on this team, so I don't know where that came from. also, was 'YYY" taught? I dont' see any reference to it"

me: "the term 'XXX' appears all over your materials, your employee website, and the GUI system that houses account data. in fact, YYY is literally an abbreviation for the term XXX. do you know your own client? here are screenshots"

CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Friday, 16 February 2024 02:26 (two months ago) link

i really like the idea of you calling some doofus “Señor Practice Manager” lol

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Friday, 16 February 2024 02:48 (two months ago) link

you want to know exactly when i'm going to take my holidays when my holidays will consist of me sitting on the sofa and watching tv? i have zero plans but you insist on making me plan.

tempted to take the two 'face-2-face' days off, the days when you want us all back in the office. plus all the other days where you've arranged pointless meetings.

(booking holidays was so much easier when i had gf overseas, those medical appointments in an hospital an hour away or when there was snowboarding on the tv)

koogs, Tuesday, 20 February 2024 17:40 (two months ago) link

he's now suggesting dates to me, such idiocy as mon, tue and fri of the same week, and the entire week following three days i've already booked (12 days in a row = far too long). also, good friday...

koogs, Tuesday, 20 February 2024 18:11 (two months ago) link

he's now on his third iteration

koogs, Tuesday, 20 February 2024 18:25 (two months ago) link

I like when I took the afternoon off to go to a baseball game and the boss' boss threw a fit when she saw me walking down the street afterward.

I TOOK THE AFTERNOON OFF. I CLEARED IT WITH MY SUPERVISOR.

Enjoy Nuoc Mam With Mr. Qualk (I M Losted), Tuesday, 20 February 2024 18:52 (two months ago) link

Not like I played hooky to watch a game. I was like "enough of this orwellian shit."

Enjoy Nuoc Mam With Mr. Qualk (I M Losted), Tuesday, 20 February 2024 18:54 (two months ago) link

did they lose their shit to your face or did you hear about it the next way?

bosses being incredulous that people occasionally spend this time on this Earth doing something enjoyable rather than being a glorified rusty gear, always the worst

CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 20 February 2024 20:08 (two months ago) link

I was in a meeting last week in which multiple supervisors used the phrase “work smarter not harder.”

JoeStork, Tuesday, 20 February 2024 21:23 (two months ago) link

Neanderthal, to my face. She glowered at me and said "what are you doing out here"?

She's not my direct boss and couldn't do much about it. He signed off on it.

Enjoy Nuoc Mam With Mr. Qualk (I M Losted), Tuesday, 20 February 2024 22:33 (two months ago) link

"whatever I goddamn like, that's what I'm doing"

CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 20 February 2024 22:42 (two months ago) link

my management encourages me to take my paid time off, and now encourages me to do it regularly because the shit was hitting the fan in november, our pto expires at the end of the year, and after the first week of december I was like “whoops gotta use my pto, see you in january!!”

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 02:04 (two months ago) link

I was in a meeting last week in which multiple supervisors used the phrase “work smarter not harder.”

When is the arraignment?

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 02:05 (two months ago) link

the holiday thing is the same here. holiday year ends at end of march so it gets quiet towards the end as people use up their spare days. everyone knows this. but this year they've gone and agreed deadlines for early april. (tbf there are external factors, like national events)

but if you're 100% busy during the rest of the year there's no good time to take holiday. i had a week for my birthday and a week for Christmas (and didn't really enjoy either). i struggle with weekends, even.

koogs, Wednesday, 21 February 2024 06:03 (two months ago) link

I really need my co-worker to stop telling me they need a "wee", "tinkle", or this morning, a "wee wee". These are grown women. It drives me nuts.

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 10:32 (two months ago) link

co-workers - there's more than one offender.

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 10:33 (two months ago) link

That’s a bit Hunni of them tbh. Do your male coworkers tell you they’re off to have a slash?

steely flan (suzy), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 10:46 (two months ago) link

lol nope!

Tinkle and wee wee are the first. They're not puppies ffs.

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 10:53 (two months ago) link

‘Tinkle’ suggests a twee American colleague because British people rarely say this. The ‘if you sprinkle/when you tinkle’ rhyme is horribly American.

steely flan (suzy), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 11:19 (two months ago) link

People at work write "brb bio" and it makes me more mad.

Just say brb I don't need to know stuff is coming out of you

CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 11:54 (two months ago) link

Nope - the one who uses tinkle is from Bromley and has never been to the US!

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 12:04 (two months ago) link

and yeah I hate bio break too - just fucking excuse yourself we don't need to know

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 12:04 (two months ago) link

The if you sprinkle thing is horrific. I knew someone growing up who had the whole phrase (which I am not typing out here it's bad enough you made me think of embroidered on a hoop in their bathroom. Nope. Just no.

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 12:06 (two months ago) link

You have a genteel workplace if you’ve never had a colleague excuse themselves for a slash/wazz.

steely flan (suzy), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 12:07 (two months ago) link

I was once training people remotely and had one of them tell me they'd had a potluck that day and one of the people severely undercooked something and she described the diarrhea she was having to me as subtly as possible which wasn't much.

Idk what I was more annoyed by, that detail, or the fact that someone fucked up a potluck dish that bad.

Never eat anything at a work potluck that needs to be 165 degrees to spare your intestines

CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 12:29 (two months ago) link

Just say brb I don't need to know stuff is coming out of you

pvmnic

bae (sic), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 15:37 (two months ago) link

knew you were going to have that teed up

CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 15:38 (two months ago) link

My old boss was great and didn't really care about Workday for vacation. My new boss is a bit different. Further the system works a bit different to how everyone ever communicated (you can roll more than 5 days).

I have about two months vacation to take this year.

I am sure the enthusiasm for me to use it is going to dissipate about as soon as I book some of it.

horizontal, Wednesday, 21 February 2024 16:35 (two months ago) link

I really need my co-worker to stop telling me they need a "wee", "tinkle", or this morning, a "wee wee". These are grown women. It drives me nuts.

Let me know if you need legal representation.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 16:42 (two months ago) link

my HR called me back in regards to my escalation. when they announced themselves, they gave the name of our former company.

we spun off in 2018.

CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Thursday, 22 February 2024 21:18 (two months ago) link

Received an email this morning that "Unfortunately there are significantly less courses available to teach this upcoming year than there have been in the past years." Besides the grammar error, among the few that really enrage me for some reason, there's also the fact that I have taught *five* courses at this school every year for the past two years— this is basically a huge chunk of staff being downsized, myself included. I have a feeling the school is going to shutter the program, which is unfortunate, especially for the wonderful students I've taught that will now have no alma mater, for all intents and purposes.

As for me, I'll make it work— I'm going back to school this summer, and know how to hustle other shit for a year or so— but JFC, how abysmal.

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Thursday, 22 February 2024 22:14 (two months ago) link

The word "tinkle" is one of the best justifications for censorship.

Enjoy Nuoc Mam With Mr. Qualk (I M Losted), Friday, 23 February 2024 13:02 (two months ago) link

The word "tinkle" is one of the best justifications for censorship.

Enjoy Nuoc Mam With Mr. Qualk (I M Losted), Friday, 23 February 2024 13:03 (two months ago) link

This is a minor one in the scheme of things, BUT.

An otherwise very nice and good to work with newish coworker clears his throat every 20 seconds all day, every day. Cough drops, water and gum have all been offered up. The clearing persists.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 23 February 2024 16:53 (two months ago) link

we had a guy who would similarly cough all day. claimed it only happened in the office. we figured it was the fibres from the work carpets.

koogs, Friday, 23 February 2024 18:02 (two months ago) link

I used to have a colleague who would regularly take a deep snort, as though clearing his nose into his throat. Not sure why, I guess it had to do with sinus issues.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 23 February 2024 18:55 (two months ago) link

that's what I do during a bout of sleep apnea

CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Friday, 23 February 2024 18:56 (two months ago) link

Yeah, but he was (or at least appeared to be) wide awake.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 23 February 2024 19:04 (two months ago) link

the aforementioned "face 2 face" day where we all go into the office for... reasons coincides tomorrow with the release of some software we've been working on for a while. and because it's potentially disruptive we've been given a change window of 7 to 9am.

tldr: i have to be in the office at 7 tomorrow morning.

koogs, Monday, 26 February 2024 18:38 (two months ago) link

Received a good reminder in recent weeks to never, ever question direction from middle managers, no matter how mildly, well reasoned and supported by data that gentle push back may be. It will NOT be received well and will backfire, almost always.

Before my new boss these tasks took up maybe 10% of my time. When my new boss entered the picture, it went up to probably 40% of my time, prompting my gentle questioning. Now it sits at about 65% of my time. Lesson learned, don't complain.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 26 February 2024 20:52 (two months ago) link

omg i've never actually needed to post in this thread until today

Swen, Tuesday, 27 February 2024 15:19 (two months ago) link

the ONLY words i can think of for this person are ANNOYING DUDE

Swen, Tuesday, 27 February 2024 15:19 (two months ago) link

i hate to just barge into a thread that i haven't followed and bark up a storm but i'm trying to put my finger on this guy

Swen, Tuesday, 27 February 2024 15:20 (two months ago) link

i'm going to have to think about it but i appreciate having a place for this lol <3

Swen, Tuesday, 27 February 2024 15:24 (two months ago) link

Not a specific co-worker, but a complaint about a specific type of co-worker that I like to call an escalator. You know, the ones that start with a very simple, easy to answer question that gently snowballs until they get to their real ask, which is a big time suck.

co-worker: "Hey can you send over the square footage of this project?"
me: "Sure, here you go."
co-worker: "Thanks, can you actually break that down by floor."
me: "Ok, here it is."
co-worker: "Great, do you happen to also have the costs for each floor?"
me: "Had to spend some time breaking down the overall costs, but here you go."
co-worker: "Oh, actually, all this information was for this 18-page form I've been asked to fill out. Can you just fill it all out for me? That's probably quicker."

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 29 February 2024 15:43 (two months ago) link

i seem to be currently doing someone else's ticket for them using the medium of slack messages so i feel your pain.

koogs, Thursday, 29 February 2024 15:53 (two months ago) link

jon stuff like that is why i've gotten to where i ghost people now. not saying you should or even know if you can, but there's definitely a personality type that does that and basically if I've done what was originally asked and they're trying to be sneaky, i just 'forget' to respond ever again.

CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Thursday, 29 February 2024 16:34 (two months ago) link

Yesterday one of our idiot plans administrators nearly prevented a single mom from adding her newborn child to medical coverage because of a egregiously bad understanding of the plan's rules.

Most companies have rules preventing people from getting duplicate coverage as an employee and a dependent child of another employee (i.e. you can't have your own medical, and also be covered as a child on your parent's plan).

This person was covered under dependent life under their mother and tried to enroll in employee life, and so the system was invalidating the entire transaction where she tried to add the child. A ticket was started.

Instead of telling the agent to just remove the Employee Life, he incorrectly told them that she couldn't cover the child on medical at all because of the unrelated coverage she had under her mom

Scares me to think how many other catastrophic mistakes he's made

CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Thursday, 29 February 2024 16:50 (two months ago) link

xp - this was actually my first interaction with this specific first person, but yeah, i'll definitely have my radar up next time they reach out for something.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 29 February 2024 16:52 (two months ago) link

the other archetype i hate are the 'intentional forgetters', people who know there is a defined process for doing things, but they circumvent the process and go right to you, and when you remind them of process say "oh I'm so dumb, I forgot about that, well can you just do it for me now and I'll remember next time"...and then next time, do the same thing.

CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Thursday, 29 February 2024 17:00 (two months ago) link

we have a 'mega important meeting' scheduled today that we're told we can't miss under any circumstances, even if we're teaching a class. I had massive sleep disruption and drastically needed to take a half day, so I inform them I'll be joining at 1 so I can attend this meeting. I get to sleep (thankfully), log in to find out my boss has inexplicably moved the earth shattering meeting to 3/25...when I'm on PTO, and they know I'm on PTO, for my brother's wedding. and he's on PTO all next week so literally the only time we can all meet is today through Friday.

Hey, how about we actually have the meeting today and if there's something that's still in flux, you just fuckin tell us?

CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 13 March 2024 17:36 (two months ago) link

(I'm already anxious that it's something like 'layoffs are coming' or 'so and so won't be returning from LOA' or that our dept head is leaving, so I don't like waiting anyway)

CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 13 March 2024 17:36 (two months ago) link

and no, I will not call in on my PTO, esp since I Have no fuckin clue what i'll even be doing throughout the day

CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 13 March 2024 17:36 (two months ago) link

hi GUI programmer, I know you hate it when people report to you things don't work, but waiting three days to respond only to ask "oh hey is it still happening" and hope it went away on its own is not a solution. or simply not bothering to check the error logs to see what caused it and snidely responding "idk it works now, try again", as if the screen caps and error details I pasted were faked.

CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Monday, 18 March 2024 14:07 (one month ago) link

Currently sitting in a Teams training course where my supervisor wanted to make sure that we are actually watching the session. She got the admin assistant (who is on camera throughout) to hold up a sign at random intervals telling us to send her a private message. If we don't send the PM within 30 seconds of her holding up the sign, we don't get a certificate of attendance.

lord of the rongs (anagram), Wednesday, 20 March 2024 13:35 (one month ago) link

that's the worst thing I've ever heard

kinder, Wednesday, 20 March 2024 21:06 (one month ago) link

Yeah, that's astoundingly awful.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 20 March 2024 21:09 (one month ago) link

Fuck you if u gotta pee, sign might come!

CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 20 March 2024 21:29 (one month ago) link

I too enjoy when my employer treats me like a toddler.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 20 March 2024 21:31 (one month ago) link

that’s when i quit my job

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Thursday, 21 March 2024 19:29 (one month ago) link

nine times out of ten people aren't paying attention in meetings, it's because someone's sharing a poorly written, cluttered powerpoint and the presenter is taking 20 minutes per slide and it's something any idiot could have figured out via an email.

i used to have this monster of a director who any time an email thread had more than two responses, she'd immediately demand we created a meeting for it, so I'd be side-messaging people follow-ups to obscure this because then I'd have 8 hours of meetings a day

CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Thursday, 21 March 2024 19:37 (one month ago) link

Still waiting on that follow up from Swen.

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 21 March 2024 20:35 (one month ago) link

nine times out of ten people aren't paying attention in meetings, it's because someone's sharing a poorly written, cluttered powerpoint and the presenter is taking 20 minutes per slide and it's something any idiot could have figured out via an email.

In high school I had a physics teacher who would come and stand in front of my desk and stop the class until I took notes. Much of the time I wrote random garbage, still topped the class at the end of the year.
30 years later I would be lecturing to med students, and the back five rows would be locked into social media on phones - I made it a personal challenge to be interesting enough to drag them away from it. If somebody wants to tune out, that's on the speaker.

assert (matttkkkk), Thursday, 21 March 2024 22:14 (one month ago) link

Of course I also had a friend/colleague at work who knew I used to tune out and do other work in pointless meetings, she used to throw to me for a comment when she could see I was doing it, just for the joy of watching me try to tapdance around it!

assert (matttkkkk), Thursday, 21 March 2024 22:17 (one month ago) link

i call bullshit on that, sorry

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Thursday, 21 March 2024 22:18 (one month ago) link

the lecturing comment, i mean

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Thursday, 21 March 2024 22:18 (one month ago) link

To simply blame the speaker is ignoring a huge number of variables, from whether the course is required to whether the student thought it would be a gut when it isn’t to the ability of contemporary technology to distract and consume our attention more than what is actually important and right in front of us. The speaker isn’t always at fault, and the listener or student isn’t always innocent. In a sense, your scenario places all of the onus for education on the educator, and frankly, that’s horseshit

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Thursday, 21 March 2024 22:22 (one month ago) link

I too enjoy when my employer treats me like a toddler.

Whole lotta low-paid working class jobs where that's the rule, not the exception.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 21 March 2024 22:29 (one month ago) link

It is on asserts own lecturing though, table. It is admittedly harsh on the speaker (I had a nobel lecturer who stupidly had his class scheduled to clash with Champions League games, though I would note he also didn't win his nobel for lecturing)

It is good for any lecturer to see that as a challenge to raise their game though. Focusing more on delivering your message well will be better for those who want to pay attention. Even if you don't win.

horizontal, Thursday, 21 March 2024 22:50 (one month ago) link

The general principle I operate on is that under no circumstance can I make everyone listen.

But...if I begin losing half of the class or more, including people who had previously been focused, then maybe I need to change gears.

Not even necessarily my fault that it happened, but my responsibility to try a new strategy.

Of course the big wild card are cliques or people who manage to distract other people. If you have one or two people repeatedly distract well-meaning students, or a group of friends who can't focus when they're around each other, them sometimes yr only option is to be the grade school teacher who separates the T-Birds

CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Thursday, 21 March 2024 23:06 (one month ago) link

yeah table my view is more like Neando's there, I was exaggerating because I worked with people who would self-immolate by demanding people switch off their phones and pay attention. I was / am a very good lecturer (no point in false modesty, I've been told enough) and my view was that the material was interesting, I'm putting in the work, the students are paying and I'm getting paid, so attention is up to the listener and I'm not going to demand it. Not pitching it right in the lecture, that's totally on me, and I made a contract with students that they could just make a kind of "uhh" noise if something didn't make sense, and if I heard that I would go back and elaborate. Takes the heat off raising a hand to say "I don't get it". And of course that's useless now because it's all online with a sea of black rectangles containing student names.

assert (matttkkkk), Friday, 22 March 2024 00:07 (one month ago) link

working from home, in meetings where my camera is off, I sometimes close my eyes and lean back to better concentrate on individual speakers. just try doing that in any other context

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Friday, 22 March 2024 13:36 (one month ago) link

is my 7th work anniversary tomorrow so i was going to post on the work message board along the lines of '7 years, eh? you get less for $crime'

looking up 7-year sentences here: https://www.thelawpages.com/court-cases/maximums.php and it gets really dark and nsfw really quickly

koogs, Tuesday, 26 March 2024 19:30 (one month ago) link

for this project at work, to identify candidates for pilot groups, teams have to answer a questionnaire so we can tell if they will fit into the pilot as well as knowing what things we should focus on in training. we discovered that three of the teams omitted a shit-ton of information, so I went back to them weeks ago and listed all of the things to focus on in training, including the things they'd left out, and asked them point blank - are we missing anything?

today, I discover they failed to tell us about this script that their agents need to read on a call that quite honestly should have disqualified them from being part of this pilot group. now we're having to figure out if we can make it work or not.

CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 3 April 2024 19:36 (one month ago) link

So there's been an ongoing issue at my office that is relatively minor and probably petty, but opinions are very sharply divided and I'm wondering where folks from the outside land.

Short version - we have several student workers that work with us over the summer and throughout the year. Our leadership is constantly doing nice things for the student workers. Which, on the face of it, is totally great and a nice thing to do! They throw a monthly pizza party just for the student workers. They take them out to a big lunch three times a year beyond those. They bring in donuts for the student workers twice a month. On their birthdays, they decorate the student workers desks with balloons and give them gift cards.

All nice and decent things to do, right?

Well, here's the catch. They don't do any of those things for full time employees, ever. We are specifically excluded from the pizza parties and the donuts. The total number of pizza parties they've thrown for all employees in the five years I've been here? One, when a coworker retired. The number of times they've brought in donuts for the general office in five years? Never. The number of times a full time employee's birthday has been even acknowledged, much less celebrated? None. The number of times we get gift cards? Zero.

Opinions are sharply divided here - some folks are extremely bitter and vocal about it ("oh, look at what they get NOW"), others don't think it's a big deal at all.

You can probably sense that I lean more towards the former than the latter. Don't get me wrong, I realize student workers are very likely underpaid and under appreciated, so I'm glad we do nice things for them. However, I also feel that unless you are going to make even token gestures of appreciation to all employees, maybe don't make a big public deal about it? Like it shows that leadership is entirely capable of employee appreciation, they just choose not to do it for everyone.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 9 April 2024 13:42 (one month ago) link

I guess my question is do they get paid, cos all those things sound like the stuff people who don’t get paid get.

Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Tuesday, 9 April 2024 14:03 (one month ago) link

xp Something is ringing a bell here--is this the same employer who is weird about holiday gifts?

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 9 April 2024 14:08 (one month ago) link

gyac - oh yeah, that would have been good to include. they do get paid. in fact, since I just learned this yesterday, they get paid $1.50 above minimum wage. yeah, to be clear, if they weren't getting paid I would absolutely have no issue with any of that.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 9 April 2024 14:20 (one month ago) link

throw your own parties and don't invite the students or the people who organise their parties!

(our release manager was trying to get people interested in a curry in town one day next month. tumbleweeds... (same manager suggested we just divide the bill evenly the last time we were out when the juniors down my end of the table had specifically chosen the cheaper options))

koogs, Tuesday, 9 April 2024 16:18 (one month ago) link

Good point koogs, though we tried that twice last year and it fizzled out. We requested just enough funds to cover ordering pizza for our group and got denied both times. Problem is, morale is so shot to hell right now that no one was willing to chip in their own money to pay for it, so.... here we are.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 9 April 2024 16:53 (one month ago) link

funny thing to me is that pizza parties felt like a punishment, outside of the 'food' part. I hate mixers at work. sometimes I'd grab the food and go back to my desk and hide lol. everybody at my company was always boring and stodgy and I'd feel like if I revealed 15% of my actual self they'd be alarmed.

but that's not the point, obv, the point is it helps to have consistency and be recognized in similar fashion as others. so i getcha!

CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 9 April 2024 17:11 (one month ago) link

I spent 14 years bitching about the same boss and the last year bitching about the new owner who bought the business and Monday night, after my husb said “hey you hate this job why don’t you quit”, I finally quit. My hours were getting cut every few months and she is running the business into the ground (quite a feat, considering the old boss sucked and still managed - barely - to keep it going for 35+ years), struggling to make payroll (the numbers are the same as the last few years so I don’t know why), and honestly just gives off very shady vibes.

I feel like a weight is off my shoulders. Watching someone just fuck up the most basic things in running a business for 15yrs is exhausting. Offering workable and simple solutions and just being ignored, is exhausting.

just1n3, Wednesday, 10 April 2024 07:43 (one month ago) link

Congrats! Youre gonna do great things!!

brimstead, Wednesday, 10 April 2024 14:33 (one month ago) link

big congrats for pulling the trigger. never an easy decision to make but mental health is so important and also when you see troubling signs like that, always a good time to get out.

CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 10 April 2024 14:48 (one month ago) link

Congrats just1n3! No doubt you'll end up in a better situation and enjoy that weight off your shoulders!

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 10 April 2024 15:40 (one month ago) link

congrats that sounded rough.

in a moment of boredom yesterday i googled a project i left a job over to see how they got on..... only so badly that some of the players had to testify in front of a tribunal in Washington DC (another country) so.... gonna say that call was for the best. Not that i really should have wondered.

maf you one two (maffew12), Wednesday, 10 April 2024 15:43 (one month ago) link

lol always fun to look back to see the mess you escaped

CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 10 April 2024 16:01 (one month ago) link

I finally managed to extract myself from a horrible freelance ghostwriting project yesterday and man, that felt good. The client disappeared for an entire year, making it impossible to keep up any kind of creative workflow, and the subject matter was repellent anyway — I didn't even want to be writing the book. It would have made me about $10K by the end, but it was just depressing and awful and as fucked up as this is to say on a board where a lot of people are struggling, I didn't actually need the money.

Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Wednesday, 10 April 2024 16:07 (one month ago) link

each of our clients has a legally binding security document with us, outlining call security protocols. There are mandatory updates that must be made whenever one of our practices changes or new features rolled out. it's fairly easy to keep up with.

I access said document for a client today, one I actually brought on board in 2007-2008. Find the document is dated 2011, and has our prior company name/logo on it. Not a good start. Read further, full of references to features we no longer use and processes that we no longer follow. ugh.

I dig deeper, and find it was actually last updated in 2020, but the morons editing it ignored all version control protocols and never documented date of last update each time they updated the doc. Likewise, whomever was in charge never updated the document to the newest version in over 13 years.

so this legally binding document is essentially a useless pile of shit, that could get us in trouble if the client ever took legal action for any security-related disputes. tempted to send this Legal's way and wait for their screams.

CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 10 April 2024 21:10 (one month ago) link

Xps thanks everyone!

I’m signing up for Rover as my next career. I don’t have any skills that I could use to get into a “real” career - my job was mostly garment dyeing and managing an online store, and my prior jobs were waiting tables and retail (both of which I will do anything to avoid).

just1n3, Wednesday, 10 April 2024 21:26 (one month ago) link

nice. walking pups is cool!

i admit that i am actually okay with my life at the moment, tho it’s because the job that isn’t that great money-wise is really where i wanna be personally… which, yes, it’s the climbing gym. i am one of the oldest employees. i don’t care, it’s great, all my co-workers are super friendly and most of the people who come in to climb are friendly, too.

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Wednesday, 10 April 2024 23:24 (one month ago) link

plus, yknow, i just clean and climb and ring up clif bars

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Wednesday, 10 April 2024 23:25 (one month ago) link

I've spent most of my working life without or barely seeing my coworkers. It's an odd feeling.

Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Thursday, 11 April 2024 03:05 (one month ago) link

once again, my boss takes impromptu PTO and then in his OOO email, lists me as a backup on something I had zero involvement with, and he didn't speak to me once about before going on PTO. he's been given feedback on this and keeps doing it - fortunately in this case, unlike previous times, I'm unlikely to get a lot of questions and things are slower atm. but it's the principle, come on dude.

CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Thursday, 18 April 2024 14:00 (three weeks ago) link

two weeks pass...

I'm having a really hard time with my new(ish) boss. He's a highly competitive dude with a huge ego, which, whatever, I've dealt with that combo in managers before and while it isn't fun, it happens.

Problem is he also just loves mind games and divisiveness. One of his favorite moves is to make vague references to "winning" the "game" at work. Whenever one of us calls him on that bullshit and straight up asks what "game" he's talking about, he says things like, "well, if you don't even know what game you are playing, I can tell you right now you won't win". But even more common is telling each of us wildly different things in our individual one on one status meetings. Like two of us will have back-to-back meetings with him and he'll tell us both exact opposite facts/updates. I know he's not stupid enough to think we don't talk amongst each other and check in, so I can only assume it's some mind game he's got going on. He also turns everyfuckingthing negative, even undeniable good news he will shit on. Like just last week I had this exchange:

me: "Yeah, good news on that one, we actually wrapped it up three weeks ahead of schedule."

him: "That's disappointing, why wasn't it done four weeks early?"

me: laughing, thinking this is a joke, "well, I thought three weeks was pretty good, I'm happy with it"

him: "Don't be. I'm serious, work on that."

And I know he's done similar to all of his other staff. It's just so annoying and maddening. Like, what's the end game? Keeping us all unsettled and nervous? I guess mission accomplished, but jesus christ I do not have the time nor energy to figure out these games. I just want to do my job and go home at the end of the day.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 2 May 2024 18:38 (one week ago) link

I'd just be like, "I guess there's no incentive to finish things ahead of schedule!"

Or alternatively, just add at least one week to every timeline and you got your four weeks, buddy

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Thursday, 2 May 2024 19:17 (one week ago) link

I mean this is totally the "flair" discussion from Office Space, only I guess he saw that movie and sided with the Mike Judge boss character instead of realizing he was the butt of the joke and not Aniston.

RICH BRIAN (Neanderthal), Thursday, 2 May 2024 19:21 (one week ago) link

I quit my job :)

She was not happy that I gave no notice - she thought I’d give them more time for a handover - and I just replied “well you’ve been cutting my hours for awhile now so I don’t think there’s much left to handover”. Her response was that the hour cutting was temporary because business was slow and that she wished I’d told her I needed more hours. Like, what? I’m not gonna be at the mercy of how badly you’re running the business at any given time.

Jon, your manager absolutely sucks. What a piece of shit.

just1n3, Thursday, 2 May 2024 19:36 (one week ago) link

fuck yeah just1n3! congrats - it's funny how much they shrivel up when they realize they no longer have any power over you.

RICH BRIAN (Neanderthal), Thursday, 2 May 2024 19:45 (one week ago) link

Thanks! I’m on vacation in Finland right now and this is the first time in yeeeears I haven’t had to check in on customer emails, answer staff texts, talk my boss through something, and have just been free. Except I’ve spent 90% of my time here sick 🫠

just1n3, Thursday, 2 May 2024 20:57 (one week ago) link

That last bit is rough. Was in Germany a few months ago and was sick the entire time.

Yes way to go justin3!!

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Friday, 3 May 2024 01:33 (one week ago) link

just1n3 even!! xo

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Friday, 3 May 2024 01:33 (one week ago) link

worse than scheduling a meeting for 8:30 am, requiring me to log in earlier than usual - rescheduling it one minute before it was supposed to start.

RICH BRIAN (Neanderthal), Friday, 3 May 2024 12:34 (one week ago) link

with one of my bosses, "can you do a quick peer review" means "can you write the entire last portion of this document for me, I did the rest but I got tired and didn't want to finish"

RICH BRIAN (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 8 May 2024 21:27 (six days ago) link


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