Search: Flann O'Brien, Wilde of course, the Virgin Prunes, Father Ted.
Destroy: leprechauns, St. Patrick's Day-related idiocies in America.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 21 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Benjamin, Tuesday, 21 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Michael Bourke, Tuesday, 21 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― nathalie, Tuesday, 21 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Ally, Tuesday, 21 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
destroy: the current amurrican hard on for all things irish.
― jess, Tuesday, 21 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
"Father Ted" was a load of arse-juice but the "D'unbelievables"...
― jel, Tuesday, 21 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
Destroy: What Ned said about St. Paddy's in the USA, my ridiculous "Kiss Me I'm Irish" relatives: stop the Erin Go Bragh insanity please!, the Cranberries, Hothouse Flowers, the Troubles (wouldn't that be nice?).
I lurve leprechauns. And shamrock shakes.
― Brennan on the Moor, Tuesday, 21 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
Now, Irish Americans, that's *quite* a different story.
― The Unicarn, Tuesday, 21 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
I love Ireland solely because of Guinness, Murphy's and Bailey's. I'm a lush.
― Dan Perry, Tuesday, 21 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Kerry, Tuesday, 21 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Lyra, Tuesday, 21 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― JM, Tuesday, 21 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Greg, Tuesday, 21 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― DG, Tuesday, 21 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― ethan, Tuesday, 21 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
Destroy: The food.
I believe it was Shane MacGowan once poignantly said: "Ertwas swillin' 'n' sllen/ inna mrsts o' Culcllan/ er pour me a-point o' whiskey t'day..."
― Joe, Tuesday, 21 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
My favorite Ireland memory: driving up the Conor Pass on the Dingle Peninsula, parking the car and hiking up a mountain. The view of the countryside, the ponds, the sheep and the sea was breathtaking, of course. But what was really remarkable was just how quiet it all was -- I could hear the grass crunching under my feet and I thought I was stepping on dried out grass, till I realized that it sounded so loud only because it was so quiet. I'd literally never "heard" silence like that before. I realized then how really loud even "quiet" moments are where I live, how there's always some sort of ambient noise in the background disrupting the perfect quiet. And then you just stand there, with the knockout view in the closest thing to perfect peace and quiet I'd ever experienced. Then you walk down and throw some money at the person playing some cliche Irish music on a harp at the foot of the hill.
― Tadeusz Suchodolski, Wednesday, 22 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― DV, Wednesday, 22 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
destroy people who say: "I'm Irish, my mother's brother's budgie was bought from a pat shop in Galway"
paddy's night in Kilburn too, destroy that, even more so in Neasden.
search: Tony Cascarino
― cabbage, Wednesday, 22 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
Anybody want to recommend some traditional Irish music? There's so much stuff out there and a lot of it looks terrible.
― Ned Trifle II, Thursday, 28 June 2007 22:33 (sixteen years ago) link
Ooops, sorry I thought this was an ILM thread 'cos I was on ILM and then I did a search and so I thought...I know...I am dumb.
― Ned Trifle II, Thursday, 28 June 2007 22:34 (sixteen years ago) link
And it's quite a late night for me.
― Ned Trifle II, Thursday, 28 June 2007 22:35 (sixteen years ago) link
'search' and 'destroy'? UMkay
― humansuit, Thursday, 28 June 2007 22:37 (sixteen years ago) link
Ned, not quite full blown trad....but you can't go wrong with Christy Moore.
― Ronan, Friday, 29 June 2007 01:21 (sixteen years ago) link
Specifically, I'd recommend Planxty's 2004 (or is it 2005? I can't remember) live album, which is brilliant and has Christy Moore singing on it. Any one of the first four Chieftains albums are also top class. Martin Hayes is also very popular and good, and there's a great, great singer called Iarla O Lionaird who sings unaccompanied Irish songs. His voice is beautiful, but it can get a little wearing after a while if you don't understand what he's singing about.
― accentmonkey, Friday, 29 June 2007 09:37 (sixteen years ago) link
The Dubliners ain't half bad either.
― Ed, Friday, 29 June 2007 09:43 (sixteen years ago) link
luke kelly.
― darraghmac, Friday, 29 June 2007 09:45 (sixteen years ago) link
also, what's with lack of WB Yeats love upthread?
― darraghmac, Friday, 29 June 2007 09:46 (sixteen years ago) link
Ned's question inspired me to dig out that Planxty 2004 album. It is GRATE.
― accentmonkey, Friday, 29 June 2007 10:08 (sixteen years ago) link
My lord, the prosecution cites "Don't Forget Your Shovel".
― The Real Dirty Vicar, Friday, 29 June 2007 11:42 (sixteen years ago) link
search: Planxty's "The Well Below The Valley", if only for the title track.
― The Real Dirty Vicar, Friday, 29 June 2007 11:43 (sixteen years ago) link
Also "The Voyage", and his version of "Ride On".
― accentmonkey, Friday, 29 June 2007 11:44 (sixteen years ago) link
xpost
If it's the same one the Devil's Interval do then it's got incest and 6 cases of abortion/infanticide, body count is the hallmark of a good folk song.
― Ed, Friday, 29 June 2007 11:45 (sixteen years ago) link
Planxty, yes - I only know the first three albums though. Also that Andy Irvine+Paul Brady album - in fact, is Andy Irvine famous? He's certainly not as famous as he should be! (He's also from London, of course!)I don't know as much about Irish music as I should.
― Tom D., Friday, 29 June 2007 11:49 (sixteen years ago) link
yes well, not every track! I'm out of my depth here, and I've forgotten my shovel.
― Ronan, Friday, 29 June 2007 11:51 (sixteen years ago) link
Planxty, yes - I only know the first three albums though. Also that Andy Irvine+Paul Brady album - in fact, is Andy Irvine famous?
he is famous enough, but maybe not as famous as he deserves to be. He plays live a lot in Whelans, and every time I go to see him I kick myself for not going to see him every time he plays, as he is awesome.
In a piece of inspired supportage, the first time I saw him was when he was supporting Will Oldham; a whole new generation of fans was born.
― The Real Dirty Vicar, Friday, 29 June 2007 14:59 (sixteen years ago) link
He is awesome. Everything I've ever heard him do, from Sweeney's Men onwards, has been great, and he always seems like the most talented and yet least well known in whatever setup he's involved in.
― Tom D., Friday, 29 June 2007 15:02 (sixteen years ago) link
I think he is all about the music rather than about the self-promotion.
I love his song about how Ronnie Drew is actually a culchie.
― The Real Dirty Vicar, Friday, 29 June 2007 15:31 (sixteen years ago) link
CINCINNATI -- A man was caught Tuesday morning inside a car with his pants down.
Police said Kim Leblanc broke into a parked car overnight on Central Parkway, and the owner found him asleep inside and called police.
Officers said Leblanc was not wearing any pants when they arrived. Investigators said Leblanc told them he had done drugs and believed that a leprechaun had let him into the car.
Leblanc remains in police custody on a variety of charges.
― omar little, Thursday, 18 October 2007 19:08 (sixteen years ago) link
top scientist claims irish less intelligent than other ethnicities,
blames leprechaun influence.
― darraghmac, Thursday, 18 October 2007 21:49 (sixteen years ago) link
Thieving Irish. Here's something funny: I'm American, and my grandfather raised us to be conscious of our Irish heritage. We just find out our Irish side actually came from England ... and had lived there for centuries before coming to the US, rather than actually coming here from Ireland during the potato/weird root tasting beer/cable knit sweater famine.
So what's the deal with that - English, Irish, what? I'm sure most of the people who claim Irish heritage here are less of Irish heritage than suspected.
http://www.dk-ink.com/AngelsRemembered/files/leprechaun.gif
― burt_stanton, Friday, 19 October 2007 03:38 (sixteen years ago) link
Oh who knows. My family could care less about it, we're American...but my boyfriend's family is v v proudly Irish...except at this point all their relatives back home live in the Leith district of Edinburgh. At least they're all Hibs supporters!
― Laurel, Friday, 19 October 2007 03:43 (sixteen years ago) link
um, hibs aren't the 'irish' team in scotland.
― darraghmac, Friday, 19 October 2007 09:40 (sixteen years ago) link
they are one of the Irish teams, as far as I know. especially if you live in Edinburgh. Scots may know better.
― Ronan, Friday, 19 October 2007 09:42 (sixteen years ago) link
Hibs were the "Irish" team in Scotland before Celtic were.
― onimo, Friday, 19 October 2007 09:46 (sixteen years ago) link
If by "Irish" you mean "charitable club set up by members of the Catholic church to provide aid to poverty stricken Catholics who were mostly Irish immigrants" or something. Hibernian means Irish, doesn't it?
― onimo, Friday, 19 October 2007 09:49 (sixteen years ago) link
Dundee United also followed the Hibs model and were originally called Dundee Hibernian.
― onimo, Friday, 19 October 2007 09:52 (sixteen years ago) link
um, oh, look, just,
look, they aren't the 'irish' team in scotland. come on!
― darraghmac, Friday, 19 October 2007 09:55 (sixteen years ago) link
Not any more, no. People generally support Hibs if they're from east Edinburgh
― onimo, Friday, 19 October 2007 10:05 (sixteen years ago) link
My grandparents came over from Donegal, and couldn't stand all the Irish trappings all the people here embraced. Then again, who really gives a shit.
― Bill Magill, Friday, 19 October 2007 14:29 (sixteen years ago) link
I wd have said they were more the "Catholic" team than the "Irish" team, but, y'know, I'm not going to argue about it.
― Laurel, Friday, 19 October 2007 14:35 (sixteen years ago) link
FOR A CHANGE
Also the bf is disgruntled by Oirish-Americans who profess love to Guinness and etc etc -- he says real Irish people drink Budweister, because it's good enough and it's cheap. Ahhh the keystone of our young love....
― Laurel, Friday, 19 October 2007 14:37 (sixteen years ago) link
The fuck is wrong with my typing this morning? Love OF Guinness, and Budweiser.
― Laurel, Friday, 19 October 2007 14:38 (sixteen years ago) link
every post on ilx should have "Then again, who really gives a shit" as its coda.
― jed_, Friday, 19 October 2007 14:40 (sixteen years ago) link
Also the bf is disgruntled by Oirish-Americans who profess love to Guinness and etc etc -- he says real Irish people drink Budweister, because it's good enough and it's cheap.
that's like the way English people drink lame-o lagers instead of real ale.
It's funny though... in general I am against patriotism and nationalism, but I feel that it is very important that I drink Guinness and not foreign drinks.
― The Real Dirty Vicar, Friday, 19 October 2007 15:08 (sixteen years ago) link
I feel that it's very important that I drink Guinness. I also feel very strongly about not drinking horse-piss. It's a win-win situation.
― Ray, Friday, 19 October 2007 15:28 (sixteen years ago) link
I like Guiness and Budweiser. Not because I'm third generation Irish but because they taste good (to me and I like to get fucked up.
― Bill Magill, Friday, 19 October 2007 15:29 (sixteen years ago) link
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/apr/02/ireland
― the pinefox, Wednesday, 2 April 2008 11:10 (fifteen years ago) link
I am reading Roy Foster's LUCK & THE IRISH. Has anyone else read or even thought about it?
― the pinefox, Wednesday, 14 January 2009 00:28 (fifteen years ago) link
Haven't read it but it sounds interesting. Are you far enough into it to decide if it's worth reading or not?
Ned, I can't believe you don't love " St. Patrick's Day-related idiocies in America." My dog has an Irish name (Declan) so he has to put up with wearing a shamrock kerchief every St Patrick's Day. He loves the beer part of it at least ;-)
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/168/418896575_92f41654dc_m.jpgbeing tortured by wearing said kerchief at a st patrick's parade
― lyra, Wednesday, 14 January 2009 00:55 (fifteen years ago) link
Oh yes, it's definitely worth reading! Foster always is, whatever else you think of him.
― the pinefox, Wednesday, 14 January 2009 11:28 (fifteen years ago) link
At the moment I'm reading about Irish feminists' campaigns for contraceptives etc in the 1970s; to do what they did in that society I think they had to be very imaginative and courageous.
― the pinefox, Wednesday, 14 January 2009 11:29 (fifteen years ago) link
Did we all realise Conor Cruise O;Brien snuffed it, btw?
― Henry Frog (Frogman Henry), Wednesday, 14 January 2009 12:00 (fifteen years ago) link
Yes.
― hyggeligt, Wednesday, 14 January 2009 12:19 (fifteen years ago) link
What's the best thing to read by him then?
― Henry Frog (Frogman Henry), Wednesday, 14 January 2009 12:22 (fifteen years ago) link
I've got Herod but it's one of these ludicrous situations where it just looks so imposing that I've bottled out of even opening it
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 14 January 2009 12:26 (fifteen years ago) link
― Local Garda, Tuesday, 14 April 2009 14:21 (fourteen years ago) link
"it went all the way up my gowl"
― Local Garda, Tuesday, 14 April 2009 14:23 (fourteen years ago) link
no sound at work :(
― Old Big 'OOS (AKA the Cupwinner) (darraghmac), Tuesday, 14 April 2009 14:30 (fourteen years ago) link
"why do you ride hippos?"
meme potential there.
― Old Big 'OOS (AKA the Cupwinner) (darraghmac), Wednesday, 15 April 2009 02:22 (fourteen years ago) link
Anybody want to recommend some traditional Irish music?
This was waaaaaay up there a while ago, but if any ilxor has the chance to glom onto a copy of the somewhat obscure CD by Alasdair Fraser (fiddle) and Natalie Haas (cello) titled Fire and Grace, they will not be disappointed.
It is musically impeccable. Virtuoso playing, emotionally charged and gracefully performed. Plus, you could dance to it. Top drawer. Hot shit. Strongly recommended.
― Aimless, Wednesday, 15 April 2009 02:33 (fourteen years ago) link
Also, most of the catalog by the group Altan is exceptionally good.
― Aimless, Wednesday, 15 April 2009 02:35 (fourteen years ago) link
can't get this put of my head lately
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aa7birRBmNM
― Amateur Darraghmatics (darraghmac), Thursday, 6 August 2009 22:06 (fourteen years ago) link
love the 'rocky road to dublin'. there's a live recording i have where youre like 'where is he pausing for breath?', hes just belting it out.
― Michael B, Friday, 7 August 2009 01:39 (fourteen years ago) link
http://twitter.com/Garda_Siochana
― I see what this is (Local Garda), Wednesday, 16 December 2009 22:12 (fourteen years ago) link
i'm bumping this purely cos i feel some irish ilxors may enjoy, sorry about such shameless promotion. started it last sat and already have 110 followers.
― I see what this is (Local Garda), Monday, 21 December 2009 13:48 (fourteen years ago) link
blocked at work, don't use twitter but will have a look later
― stop grieving, it's only a chicken (darraghmac), Monday, 21 December 2009 13:56 (fourteen years ago) link
# might hit the garda bar a bit later, can't beat hanging out with people who do exactly the same job as me in a bar named after my exact job 2:10 PM Dec 16th from web
lawl
― he "howls" the refrain in tune with the music (DJ Mencap), Monday, 21 December 2009 14:16 (fourteen years ago) link
btw I am informed that the Spurs team were spotted in Copper Face Jack's nightclub last week - trust they were well behaved
― he "howls" the refrain in tune with the music (DJ Mencap), Monday, 21 December 2009 14:25 (fourteen years ago) link
i heard they were in malahide!
― Michael B, Monday, 21 December 2009 14:30 (fourteen years ago) link
they were in gibneys in malahide yeah, my local!
― I see what this is (Local Garda), Monday, 21 December 2009 14:51 (fourteen years ago) link
gibneys was in the tabloids in the uk...a touching moment
just read the whole thing, lolled all the way.
― joe, Monday, 21 December 2009 15:04 (fourteen years ago) link
Haha, needed something to fill the void caused by the Phil Brown Twitter's demise
― MPx4A, Monday, 21 December 2009 15:06 (fourteen years ago) link
lol the media guy for that anti eu group libertas keeps retweeting it!
― I see what this is (Local Garda), Monday, 21 December 2009 15:18 (fourteen years ago) link
wanna go back tbh
― BIG MUFFIN (gbx), Sunday, 31 October 2010 00:17 (thirteen years ago) link
where in ireland did you live?
― decent skinsmanship (Michael B), Sunday, 31 October 2010 01:22 (thirteen years ago) link
― Michael B,
otm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtEKUWRpUWg&feature=related
― flags post o fu (darraghmac), Thursday, 2 February 2012 00:24 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBGSc1iLcIw
― World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Monday, 9 April 2012 01:53 (eleven years ago) link
racist
― I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Monday, 9 April 2012 12:07 (eleven years ago) link
written by Michael O'Donoghue
― World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Monday, 9 April 2012 12:11 (eleven years ago) link
fairly archaic stuff really, a bomb in a pub, in "ireland"
― I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Monday, 9 April 2012 12:16 (eleven years ago) link
not going to watch that clip obv but i dont like the phrase 'the irish', it always seems to precede blarney sentiment or borderline racist 'bantuh'
similarly nothing interesting is ever going to be said about germany or its people by someone starting 'the germans...'
― The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Monday, 9 April 2012 12:29 (eleven years ago) link
Raymond: Do you know, when you first came in here I knew you were a services man. You can never, never disguise it. Withnail: What were you in? Raymond: Tanks. Afrika Korps. A little before your time. Don't suppose you've engaged. Withnail: Ireland. Raymond: Ooooh, a crack at the Mick.
― red is hungry green is jawless (Noodle Vague), Monday, 9 April 2012 12:32 (eleven years ago) link
bemoaning the inability of the irish to rule themselves is the new irish imo- i'm pro guilty of it myself- but it's probably no more true of us than it is of anyone else, they just hadn't dev to get over
― j'en ai cache (darraghmac), Monday, 9 April 2012 13:55 (eleven years ago) link
eh not sure it's new, my dad was growing up hearing that. relative to a lot of places, we haven't been ruling ourselves that long.
― gyac, Monday, 9 April 2012 14:02 (eleven years ago) link
i dunno what "ruling yourselves" is in that context tho? by the same standards most of the population of the UK haven't been "ruling themselves" for very long, if we cd even claim that distinction now.
― red is hungry green is jawless (Noodle Vague), Monday, 9 April 2012 14:17 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExEjzWvICd4&feature=player_embedded
didn't like mumford and sons before, but this is fucking disgusting.
― I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 09:57 (eleven years ago) link
What the fuck?
― Une semaine de Bunty (ShariVari), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 10:17 (eleven years ago) link
yeah i know, why would you promote your own tour in a given country with a video that is basically outright racist mockery of that country?
― I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 10:19 (eleven years ago) link
Possibly a different manifestation of the problem behind the racist Florence & The Machine video. Upper-class British pop stars who have never had to address issues of race / nationality to any great extent at school or with friends and come across as completely blind to them now. idk.
― Une semaine de Bunty (ShariVari), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 10:24 (eleven years ago) link
middle class Home Counties cunt unaware that mocking non mcHCcunts is a bad move surprise surprise
― red is hungry green is jawless (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 10:24 (eleven years ago) link
it's cool i'm sure they sincerely love the Pogues and Guinness
― red is hungry green is jawless (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 10:26 (eleven years ago) link
i might have sent this to the daily mail
― I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 10:33 (eleven years ago) link
oops
wtf
― You always tell me: "Perhacs Perhacs Perhacs" (seandalai), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 10:36 (eleven years ago) link
I don't know what you're all talking about, I thought it was HILARIOUS. I especially loved the mocking of our language and the fact it was blatantly inspired by 19th century Punch cartoons.
They've always been a shower of bedwetting Tory pricks.
xp I can only hope they use the headline Scumford & Sons.
― gyac, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 10:38 (eleven years ago) link
Weird how the default laugh-at-the-Irish accent has shifted from "begorrah bejaysus" countryfolk to Bertie Ahern.
― You always tell me: "Perhacs Perhacs Perhacs" (seandalai), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 10:40 (eleven years ago) link
Daily Mail currently has a photo of numerous dead children on its front page, only the Mumfords could be worse.
― michael nyman cat (Merdeyeux), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 10:41 (eleven years ago) link
xp bit more Geldof, no? But it was clearly aimed to be countryfolk I think.
― gyac, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 10:45 (eleven years ago) link
not seen this, doubt i'll be offended tho, becos y'know we made fr ted ourselves
― diafiyhm (darraghmac), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 10:48 (eleven years ago) link
father ted was funny. and we LOVE mocking ourselves but that's partly because others are so bad at it, see above.
― I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 10:50 (eleven years ago) link
it makes Father Ted look like Synge tbh
― red is hungry green is jawless (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 10:50 (eleven years ago) link
Big difference between Ted which was made with affection by Irish people vs home counties upper class twits acting out a Punch cartoon.
― gyac, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 10:51 (eleven years ago) link
c'mon, Father Ted was clearly better than Synge
― Number None, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 10:51 (eleven years ago) link
rather be satirised by synge than idealised mawkishly by o'casey, but that's another debate tbf
will check it out tonight, it better be good now
― diafiyhm (darraghmac), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 10:52 (eleven years ago) link
Synge is great i'm just saying he was a bit more subtle in his satire than FT
― red is hungry green is jawless (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 10:53 (eleven years ago) link
When we mock ourselves it's like mocking your family - you are best placed to do it cos you know the subject, but outsiders generally shouldn't if they're just going to resort to stereotypes. Seriously, jokes about us haven't moved on since the 19th century, same old shit.
― gyac, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 10:53 (eleven years ago) link
srsly doubt the intention was "mockery", he probably thinks it's an affectionate acknowledgment of how much he loves yr culture
― red is hungry green is jawless (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 10:54 (eleven years ago) link
being mocked with good natured if clumsy/misapplied affection is worse than being nailed expertly by yr own cynics, but i mean personally the line can be blurry. Again, personally, where it's coming from needn't be such a major factor all the time- general chatter here btw
― diafiyhm (darraghmac), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 10:55 (eleven years ago) link
i think you need to see this darragh really, it's ludicrously out of touch.
― I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 10:57 (eleven years ago) link
withholding judgement until i found out whether they open their set with "Lillibullero"
― red is hungry green is jawless (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 10:58 (eleven years ago) link
i mean if the clip is half as ugly, stupid, grotesque and embarrassing for one minute as pat shortt's entire, million-making career has been then i'll frankly be impressed
― diafiyhm (darraghmac), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 10:58 (eleven years ago) link
it is uglier because they're english... not sure how you don't see this.
― I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 10:59 (eleven years ago) link
xp yeah fair enough ronan i'll obv need to watch it i'm just blowing shite around it- the usual tbh!
― diafiyhm (darraghmac), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 10:59 (eleven years ago) link
i know the 'it's because they're english' line and recognise the general gist, i don't think it's either absolute and above question
― diafiyhm (darraghmac), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 11:02 (eleven years ago) link
Pat Shortt is a culchie mocking culchies & culchieisms for culchies, and is not to the taste of everyone. Not sure how it's even comparable.
― gyac, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 11:03 (eleven years ago) link
x-post there's a difference between a person from a race poking fun at known stereotypes amongst his compatriots and a person who isn't a member of the race mocking nothing but obvious signifiers of the race.
i suppose chris rock is racist now too?
― I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 11:05 (eleven years ago) link
but just watch it ffs before commenting any further
xp bit more Geldof, no? But it was clearly aimed to be countryfolk I think.― gyac, Wednesday, April 18, 2012 10:45 AM (14 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― gyac, Wednesday, April 18, 2012 10:45 AM (14 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Hard to tell given how badly it's done, but it was def some sort of Dub accent. Not going to watch again though.
― You always tell me: "Perhacs Perhacs Perhacs" (seandalai), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 11:08 (eleven years ago) link
it's just that modern standard of a British person doing an Irish accent, which does tend to be Dublin now.
― I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 11:10 (eleven years ago) link
tragically enough, it seems to be an advertisement for a gig in Galway
Mumford and Sons series of 'Gentlemen of the Road Stopover...' shows this summer purposely visit centres off the beaten track of international touring. 'We want to stop off in towns not usually heavily toured by bands, and celebrate the people, food and music that inhabit them,' says the band who promise 'a whole lot of fun'.
― Number None, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 11:12 (eleven years ago) link
If you look at the Youtube video comments, it was circulated privately 4 days ago with insiders or whoever, none of whom saw a problem. Insular little circles lead to this kind of shit as much as anything.
― gyac, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 11:15 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah, most bands from normal backgrounds would probably have someone to slap the fuck out of them for putting something so stupid together.
― Une semaine de Bunty (ShariVari), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 11:19 (eleven years ago) link
I volunteer!
― gyac, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 11:20 (eleven years ago) link
it is strangely, bizarrely, incredibly unfunny and uninteresting - 2 minutes long and you just want it to stop the whole time.
― the pinefox, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 11:20 (eleven years ago) link
eh i've said a few times that i'm more commenting on the irish chip on shoulder and what we'll happily tolerate from millionaire ignoramus shortt vs millionaire ignoramus tory brits as opposed to commenting on the video itself, you shirty fuckin paddy
― diafiyhm (darraghmac), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 11:28 (eleven years ago) link
and speaking as a culchie, pat shortt's no fuckin chris rock
― diafiyhm (darraghmac), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 11:32 (eleven years ago) link
my "ffs" wasn't shirty, and don't call me paddy, mick.
― I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 11:38 (eleven years ago) link
o u didn't
― diafiyhm (darraghmac), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 11:38 (eleven years ago) link
Again with the false assumption about Pat Shortt - I fucking hate the guy & so do a lot of people. But he's one of us, not some sneering outsider.
― gyac, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 11:42 (eleven years ago) link
agree that pat shortt is just fucking awful, but our lack of self regard is at best sad, whereas total ignorance from outsiders is a clear cause for annoyance.
x-post yeah it's pretty simple for me.
― I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 11:43 (eleven years ago) link
The feeling I get when Killinaskully comes on when the boyfriend is over with me is quite similar to how I feel when Jackie Healy-Rae was on BBC news. I cringe.
― gyac, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 11:46 (eleven years ago) link
Also there's a bit of historical context for the English mocking the Irish. If it were idk the Germans I'd be more likely to laugh back at them.
― You always tell me: "Perhacs Perhacs Perhacs" (seandalai), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 11:46 (eleven years ago) link
he's not one of me, i don't know who's making the false assumption there tbh
― diafiyhm (darraghmac), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 11:47 (eleven years ago) link
you're not Irish?
― gyac, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 11:48 (eleven years ago) link
i decidedly am, i'm surely not one of whatever pat shortt encapsulates, tks
― diafiyhm (darraghmac), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 11:55 (eleven years ago) link
there's no real argument that can get you around the fact that it's obv worse for someone not of a country/creed/race to mock that country/creed/race
― I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 11:57 (eleven years ago) link
well I thought us vs outsiders was perfectly clear but obviously not.
― gyac, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 11:59 (eleven years ago) link
I totally get that English people should stay the hell away from doing stupid indefensible nonsense like that video. Reading this thread, I'm wondering if it's specifically the English (which is the word people are using) or whether the offence would be as bad if it were Scots or Welsh people doing it? Just idly wondering, really.
― Tim, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 11:59 (eleven years ago) link
not while i'm a phone!
As i said upthread, yeah, hard and fast rule then fine, grand. But there's degrees of it etc
― diafiyhm (darraghmac), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 12:00 (eleven years ago) link
I would find it fairly bad if Scots or Welsh doing it, I just can't see that being the case though. The tone of that video is v specific to English mockery of Ireland and its traditions.
― I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 12:01 (eleven years ago) link
I think it's not really meant to be mockery - I think they think they are being friendly and pro-Ireland
but they just seem weirdly untalented, unfunny, stupid and boring.
― the pinefox, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 12:24 (eleven years ago) link
I have not heard this band and this seems like a good thingthey are often described as Tories, I wonder if this is true?
btw Tory was originally an Irish term, for a C17-18 highway robber I think
those aware of their previous work will know there's nothing weird about that
― aboulia banks (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 12:25 (eleven years ago) link
I think they think they are being friendly and pro-Ireland
They think so too.
― I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 12:27 (eleven years ago) link
well, it's something
― diafiyhm (darraghmac), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 13:01 (eleven years ago) link
so wait is that a member of mumford & sons in the video?
it's a better 'irish' accent than kevin spacey's in ordinary decent criminal.
it's not very good. it doesn't really have a point. the cliches aren't even drawn on. d-.
not 'offended' or 'shocked', it's just a bad irish accent with no jokes and no point. it's a bad advert.
― diafiyhm (darraghmac), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 15:47 (eleven years ago) link
would you like a prize or
― gyac, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 16:10 (eleven years ago) link
i don't know, i'm not the one competing in 'the disgusted' category tbh
― diafiyhm (darraghmac), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 16:20 (eleven years ago) link
A lot of that accent sounded like a (bad, obv) impersonation of the Ross O'Carroll-Kelly types. Though there are many shining strands of green shite woven through it, of course.
― Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 16:52 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.uni-due.de/IERC/index.html
― Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Saturday, 13 April 2013 17:36 (ten years ago) link
idk despite the differences apparent when listened consecutively, i think i could only really parse dublin/non-dublin and ulster, the one from the southeast sounds enough like connaught accents i have heard etc
to actual irish ppl, how many regional accents could you identify? i don't think it has quite the variety of england, which is a dificult comparison due to relative size, but then as someone who has never been to scotland i can still tell glasgow from teuchter or east of scotland
― Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Saturday, 13 April 2013 17:43 (ten years ago) link
How many? I can tell you if a man's father came from bunnacurry or dugort
― privilege as 'me me me' (darraghmac), Saturday, 13 April 2013 17:53 (ten years ago) link
the variation over tiny distances is pretty remarkable
― bitCOINTELPRO (buzza), Saturday, 13 April 2013 18:02 (ten years ago) link
maybe so but extreme localization highlights effects and mutations which cannot take place at a more regional level, like if the priest of dugort pronounces a word a certain way and everyone else in the village follows
could you tell a cork accent from a kerry one?
― Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Saturday, 13 April 2013 18:03 (ten years ago) link
Definitely. I'd say the ones highlighted on that map are all fairly distinct. The midlands is a lottery
― Number None, Saturday, 13 April 2013 18:05 (ten years ago) link
this also made apparent how much middle class dublin accents resemble middle class home counties accents
― Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Saturday, 13 April 2013 18:08 (ten years ago) link
Cork and kerry lol thats not even a shared language. Carlow can be a little northern sounding, i dont pick up much accent from the south east corner, and the north (six counties) sounds much the same to me. Midlands is a melting pot but there's discernible differences p much in every county for those that know em im sure
― privilege as 'me me me' (darraghmac), Saturday, 13 April 2013 18:10 (ten years ago) link
Cant get to this atm but will try later on
― privilege as 'me me me' (darraghmac), Saturday, 13 April 2013 18:11 (ten years ago) link
yeah i am told that cork and cobh are quite discernable which i'm sure is true, but the extent is probably exagerrated by narcissism of small differences and you'll find some locals insisting that cobh is actually closer to a korean accent than cork
― Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Saturday, 13 April 2013 18:14 (ten years ago) link
North or south?
― privilege as 'me me me' (darraghmac), Saturday, 13 April 2013 18:23 (ten years ago) link
As an outsider, Darragh seems otm to me. Cork is unique, I can pick up several Midlands accents but the s/e and north seem to have fewer variations. Could be because I spend all my time in the Midlands though.
― хуто-хуторянка (ShariVari), Saturday, 13 April 2013 18:24 (ten years ago) link
no
I don't think you can really tell from this, I agree with Darragh on the differences.
― gyac, Saturday, 13 April 2013 19:11 (ten years ago) link
When I was in the Coleraine area as a cloth-eared English oppressor I found the local accent a lot softer than the Belfast one, but it's hard to pick up any major differences from the clips on the site
slightly intrigued by this being on a German university website (I have visited that university! not the bit the author's at, though)
― susuwatari teenage riot (a passing spacecadet), Saturday, 13 April 2013 19:45 (ten years ago) link
Are you from north America? I have a fairly canonical middle class Dublin accent, and I've only ever been mistaken me for an Englishman by people who hailed from the USA.Regarding the soundfiles, I'd bet good money that the lady who's tagged as a Finglas resident didn't grow up there.
^ this. I used to know a New Zealander who once remarked to me that in her homeland, everybody sounded exactly the same, regardless of where in the country they came from. She marvelled that in Ireland, every time you move a couple of miles, people seem to sound completely different.
― Vast Halo, Saturday, 13 April 2013 20:10 (ten years ago) link
big difference between a flat low tipperary and slightly whiney limerick accent even
― Old Boy In Network (Michael B), Saturday, 13 April 2013 20:10 (ten years ago) link
Bah. For "mistaken me for", read "mistaken for".
― Vast Halo, Saturday, 13 April 2013 20:11 (ten years ago) link
that's a good solid mayo accent, 'yard' in particular would peg him as rural castlebar area tbh
― the gowls are not what they seem (darraghmac), Tuesday, 16 April 2013 21:45 (ten years ago) link
yerman from connemara couldn't give fuck uimhir a h-áon tbh
― the gowls are not what they seem (darraghmac), Tuesday, 16 April 2013 21:46 (ten years ago) link
limerick (and i'm not picking fights my limerick ppl) is an awful accent)
― the gowls are not what they seem (darraghmac), Tuesday, 16 April 2013 21:47 (ten years ago) link
this would work a lot better, i think, were it a coherent paragraph with longer sentences- no flow to it, which really takes away from the music of idk kerry, cork and donegal accents
― the gowls are not what they seem (darraghmac), Tuesday, 16 April 2013 21:48 (ten years ago) link
i agree, the limerick accent is awful
― Old Boy In Network (Michael B), Tuesday, 16 April 2013 21:49 (ten years ago) link
thankfully i dont have one
― Old Boy In Network (Michael B), Tuesday, 16 April 2013 21:50 (ten years ago) link
lol now i look at it, they didn't even bother with midlands- otm
― the gowls are not what they seem (darraghmac), Tuesday, 16 April 2013 21:50 (ten years ago) link
the mid-ulster one is p much donegal again? v much what dmac sounded like in 1994 fwiw, more so than the actual donegal one. best accent obv.
― the gowls are not what they seem (darraghmac), Tuesday, 16 April 2013 21:51 (ten years ago) link
drogheda would rival limerick if it weren't so comical, i mean how do you talk like that naturally.
― the gowls are not what they seem (darraghmac), Tuesday, 16 April 2013 21:52 (ten years ago) link
dublin 1 d14
dublin 2 more d4
v much the oar tee ee one that
― the gowls are not what they seem (darraghmac), Tuesday, 16 April 2013 21:53 (ten years ago) link
cork accent is the best tbh. waterford accent is probably worse than a limerick accent
― Old Boy In Network (Michael B), Tuesday, 16 April 2013 21:53 (ten years ago) link
im very excited to know what darragh sounds like
― 乒乓, Tuesday, 16 April 2013 21:53 (ten years ago) link
hmm they've pulled out of the dublin one a bit? there no reeeeeel dubs in it imo
― the gowls are not what they seem (darraghmac), Tuesday, 16 April 2013 21:54 (ten years ago) link
darragh how would u pronounce 'viking'
― 乒乓, Tuesday, 16 April 2013 21:54 (ten years ago) link
who in terms of famous ppl has the platonic ideal of dublin accents
robbie keane seems pretty real
― Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Tuesday, 16 April 2013 21:55 (ten years ago) link
i have one sample of my voice, i am reading a christmas story to my toddler niece cos i was dumb enough to by her abook with push button sound effects- eventually (after the first 50 encores) it made sense to just give her a recording
― the gowls are not what they seem (darraghmac), Tuesday, 16 April 2013 21:56 (ten years ago) link
well i mean what is a dublin accent tho
robbie's is real, but then so's is miriam o'callaghan
the third dublin one is quite good, i spose- northside but not panto
― the gowls are not what they seem (darraghmac), Tuesday, 16 April 2013 21:57 (ten years ago) link
i like the waterford one, reminds me of reeling in the years or hands or one of those programmes
she doesn't sound unlike a lower achill woman tbh
pollagh, specifically
not messing i'm near sure i know the woman reading the first dublin accent
― the gowls are not what they seem (darraghmac), Tuesday, 16 April 2013 21:59 (ten years ago) link
mayo one is slightly spoiled due to his eehhh difficulty reading words
― the gowls are not what they seem (darraghmac), Tuesday, 16 April 2013 22:00 (ten years ago) link
idk if this'll work but
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/818963/Sound%20clip%2028.mp4
― the gowls are not what they seem (darraghmac), Tuesday, 16 April 2013 22:11 (ten years ago) link
Limerick one very much minded on value for money, the quicker you get through it the quicker someone will give you a fiver.
― Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 16 April 2013 22:14 (ten years ago) link
it works and you sound great!
― 乒乓, Tuesday, 16 April 2013 22:14 (ten years ago) link
idk is it representative but it's def what i sound like after brandy while performing so thanks
― the gowls are not what they seem (darraghmac), Tuesday, 16 April 2013 22:15 (ten years ago) link
Sounds good - a bit mellower and a lot less bitter than I'd imagined, but good. A wdysl is a whole lot weirder than a wdyll though, for some reason.
― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 16 April 2013 22:32 (ten years ago) link
i'm never all that happy with either, obv brandy working for me re mellow/bitter tbh
― the gowls are not what they seem (darraghmac), Tuesday, 16 April 2013 22:33 (ten years ago) link
toddler niece too, prob
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/818963/Image315.jpg
― the gowls are not what they seem (darraghmac), Tuesday, 16 April 2013 22:34 (ten years ago) link
but we digress, the southeast accent threw me, the midulster one i'd have said was on our side, not enough variety in the dubs ones obv and missing a monaghan/cavan hod accent imo but the rest easy
― the gowls are not what they seem (darraghmac), Tuesday, 16 April 2013 22:36 (ten years ago) link
Sounds good - a bit mellower and a lot less bitter than I'd imagined, but good.
― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 16 April 2013 23:32 (Yesterday)
always read deems posts in a 'playfully rancorous' but geographically fairly unspecific cadence
the material and setting isn't ideal for rancorous though
― Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Tuesday, 16 April 2013 23:21 (ten years ago) link
just imagine me as dunphy u know you want to
― the gowls are not what they seem (darraghmac), Tuesday, 16 April 2013 23:23 (ten years ago) link
playfully racist
― rather ugged man (zvookster), Wednesday, 17 April 2013 01:17 (ten years ago) link
me or him, like
― the gowls are not what they seem (darraghmac), Wednesday, 17 April 2013 01:20 (ten years ago) link
i liked the darragh recording. i had thought my grandmother's accent had faded after being here so long but it's very similar, she is from galway. she leaves me a lot of voice mails i would post but i'd feel mean making fun of her. they're mostly "hellooooo? are you there?" a guy i see at work sometimes is from NI and he sounds to me like he's constantly shouting.
― veryupsetmom (harbl), Wednesday, 17 April 2013 01:48 (ten years ago) link
this map thing is hilarious how different they all are!
― veryupsetmom (harbl), Wednesday, 17 April 2013 01:52 (ten years ago) link
u, i got nothin on dunphy
― rather ugged man (zvookster), Wednesday, 17 April 2013 01:59 (ten years ago) link
public transport in dublin is so quiet until schoolkids or nordies get on.
they even use normal voice before mass up there begab
― rather ugged man (zvookster), Wednesday, 17 April 2013 02:00 (ten years ago) link
fair, fair, zvooks
xp tks harbl- i think my accent is a lil neutral after years of movin round tho, so maybe yr gran has lost it a bit? tho imo galway is quite a clear/neutral accent as they go.
― the gowls are not what they seem (darraghmac), Wednesday, 17 April 2013 02:02 (ten years ago) link
idk tho i'm on the red line and yknow idk is it always quiet like
aw ryan and emma
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 17 April 2013 02:05 (ten years ago) link
"hod accent"
what is hod?
― buzza, Wednesday, 17 April 2013 02:54 (ten years ago) link
idk u carry bricks in one and it's a heavy accent i was kinda in a hurry to get the sentence out maybe
― the gowls are not what they seem (darraghmac), Wednesday, 17 April 2013 02:57 (ten years ago) link
i'd recant it even so, because the accents aren't heavy.... they're a curious mix, lyrical but with the odd edge i spose, and the vowels are fuckin evrywheah
― the gowls are not what they seem (darraghmac), Wednesday, 17 April 2013 03:28 (ten years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RuBVihbsU0o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1L1GPftxOs4
― the gowls are not what they seem (darraghmac), Wednesday, 17 April 2013 03:33 (ten years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4rNFd6Z198
that's it i'm here for the night
nakh obv you'll be loving these
― the gowls are not what they seem (darraghmac), Wednesday, 17 April 2013 03:46 (ten years ago) link
it's nice to hear your voice again, darragh.
― estela, Wednesday, 17 April 2013 04:43 (ten years ago) link
dont let on which balaclava i'm hiding behind pls
― the gowls are not what they seem (darraghmac), Wednesday, 17 April 2013 04:45 (ten years ago) link
get some sleep ffs
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 17 April 2013 04:46 (ten years ago) link
i'm not a dobber.
― estela, Wednesday, 17 April 2013 04:50 (ten years ago) link
hey this is my first night up in months, and the fightin talk got me all angried up
― the gowls are not what they seem (darraghmac), Wednesday, 17 April 2013 05:00 (ten years ago) link
i wont sleep now til big joe joyce gets whats comin to him i tell ya
― the gowls are not what they seem (darraghmac), Wednesday, 17 April 2013 05:01 (ten years ago) link
there is a fairly big diff in the Cavan and Monaghan accent, feel like the Monaghan is more sing-songy and the Cavan is harsher in the NI fashion yet idiosyncratic and weird
― buzza, Wednesday, 17 April 2013 06:28 (ten years ago) link
donegal accent is very nice, love that place
― buzza, Wednesday, 17 April 2013 06:30 (ten years ago) link
robbie's isn't really typical imo. a specific type.
shane lynch of boyzone the most famous person (in his day) to have a strong dublin accent.
― Tioc Norris (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 17 April 2013 09:09 (ten years ago) link
besides like ronnie drew and stuff but that's a bit more classic.
there was none that seemed like it was supposed to be galway city so i did one bc it is not really a "connemara" accent even if it technically is, drowsy first thing drawl, faggy intonation:
They bought a kit to make beer She bought herself a new dress They walked into the trap There are a lot of people outside Jason wanted the Golden Fleece He cut the piece of twine There are four horses in the field They had a goat on their farm They didn’t have a good start in life I suppose they are happy now She’s learning how to dance They have a new water supply The rail track is overgrown You will have to run for the bus The whole floor is wet He used to strut about town It’s just his style She put on a brave face We took another path They realised the problem You should go soft on him They are the pride of the nation The choice was the right one The force of the wind increased The prison term was quite long They were eating out of the palm of her hand Put a comma after that word I think it’s time to go There are two of them here The rail track was overgrown There’s a gap in the field He was talking about his wife That wasn’t very fair It’s just his style He put his foot in it Spare a thought for your parents The price has gone up again The city is at the mouth of the river It’s near the modern station, down by the town square The film should start soon There’s a letter for you today Now breathe in slowly please She said she was coming My back is very sore lately He put his cap on She took her shoes off
i get thrown by "she put on a brave face on" bc i would naturally say "she put a brave face on her" which i guess is more distinctly west of ireland
― plax (ico), Wednesday, 17 April 2013 10:03 (ten years ago) link
i mean:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/lhxzufmrgj1qe5w/Voice%20021.mp3
― plax (ico), Wednesday, 17 April 2013 10:04 (ten years ago) link
As an Irishman abroad, the one that really jumps out (in that I'd forgotten that people say it and it produces a wince) is cyarr.
― Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 17 April 2013 10:31 (ten years ago) link
plax i could just about recognise as western
ftr i sent the link to someone from mayo and they also thought the kilkenny sample sounded quite western
― Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Wednesday, 17 April 2013 14:20 (ten years ago) link
i love thick ulster accents, my friend has a superb one. "power shower for an hour"
― ogmor, Wednesday, 17 April 2013 14:25 (ten years ago) link
― the gowls are not what they seem (darraghmac), Wednesday, 17 April 2013 04:46 (10 hours ago)
oh yeah i have been all over the traveller fighting youtubes before
the bragging/challenge videos are more interesting than the actual fights which are resolutely amateur and lacking the frisson of the beautifully filmed 'brazilian bodybuilders vs knackers' cinema verité triumph of late last year
i like one with the topless dude whose complexion gives the suggestion that he has spent a lot of time sitting outside wearing a vest during the summertime
― Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Wednesday, 17 April 2013 14:27 (ten years ago) link
xp yes, I was quite disappointed that none of the sentences featured the words "owl", "towel" or "however"
― susuwatari teenage riot (a passing spacecadet), Wednesday, 17 April 2013 14:29 (ten years ago) link
that bodybuilders v "knackers" one is the birth of the "ah hey-ore, leevirou'! leevi fuckin ou'" meme, right? think i've seen it as polish bodybuilders.
― Tioc Norris (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 17 April 2013 14:29 (ten years ago) link
I showed it to my brother and he was disgusted by me and i was ^2 delighted. He was a scrapper in his youth but is holier than thou about idiots getting kicked in the head these days
― the gowls are not what they seem (darraghmac), Wednesday, 17 April 2013 14:34 (ten years ago) link
This video needs more love IMO so if nobody objects I'm just going to shoehorn it in for no reason other than the fact that it's Irish.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhHW17OUbkY
― aonghus, Wednesday, 17 April 2013 14:34 (ten years ago) link
anyway i youtubed longford accent and got into a spool of feuding tapes. There is on feudtubes, good times
― the gowls are not what they seem (darraghmac), Wednesday, 17 April 2013 14:37 (ten years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3kR4An-4n4
'absolute units' of unclear nationality
― Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Wednesday, 17 April 2013 14:39 (ten years ago) link
darragh were you a scrapper in your youth
― 乒乓, Wednesday, 17 April 2013 14:39 (ten years ago) link
Youth? He's a scrapper now.
― Tom D (Tom D.), Wednesday, 17 April 2013 14:41 (ten years ago) link
Oh i'll enjoy the rest of that later aonghus. Is it carlow?
reminds me of a book of irish negative thinking strategy i was gonna write called 'feel the fear and cop yerself on wouldya'
― the gowls are not what they seem (darraghmac), Wednesday, 17 April 2013 14:42 (ten years ago) link
"feel the fear and don't tell anyone for god's sake"
― Tioc Norris (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 17 April 2013 14:44 (ten years ago) link
Dayo u are biographically quizzically troublesome imo. I was only a scrapper insofar as defending.myself from a scrapper older brother, and the odd time the aul lady tbf. I never scrapped anyone else if they looked twice at me the brother'd oftentimes put them through a window and word gets around.
― the gowls are not what they seem (darraghmac), Wednesday, 17 April 2013 14:44 (ten years ago) link
ay, so you were a scrapper
― 乒乓, Wednesday, 17 April 2013 14:54 (ten years ago) link
Nah but i'd plead a rueful guilty to having had a mouth on me
― the gowls are not what they seem (darraghmac), Wednesday, 17 April 2013 14:55 (ten years ago) link
I did the same list as plax. https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/50272574/recording1704.mp3
plax I picked as western by the consonants and the short As in words.
Drogheda accent has to be best in the whole country, no contest.
― gyac, Wednesday, 17 April 2013 15:13 (ten years ago) link
I suspect bias!
― the gowls are not what they seem (darraghmac), Wednesday, 17 April 2013 15:34 (ten years ago) link
bias?
― gyac, Wednesday, 17 April 2013 15:37 (ten years ago) link
Where ya from
― the gowls are not what they seem (darraghmac), Wednesday, 17 April 2013 15:53 (ten years ago) link
And just how many of you are there?
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 17 April 2013 15:55 (ten years ago) link
might do this later
― Tioc Norris (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 17 April 2013 15:56 (ten years ago) link
Offaly
― gyac, Wednesday, 17 April 2013 16:00 (ten years ago) link
Ah so, bias accusation rescinded! I've known some offaly ppl, not a strong accent iirc
― the gowls are not what they seem (darraghmac), Wednesday, 17 April 2013 16:02 (ten years ago) link
also, meant to post this - http://mooncountry.wordpress.com/2013/03/24/later-as-an-accent-marker/
― gyac, Wednesday, 17 April 2013 16:02 (ten years ago) link
this is essential
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=G2b0bzUYq8Y#!
― The Finnish Question........after question......after question....a (darraghmac), Sunday, 28 April 2013 12:20 (ten years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJNGfUYMJNY
steve coogan doing a particular central mayo accent, from 1.30 onwards. it is flawless.
― The Finnish Question........after question......after question....a (darraghmac), Sunday, 28 April 2013 12:48 (ten years ago) link
man those rally guys tho
musha now whisht whist! now you're at it! heaaugh haw HA ehHAHAha
― rather ugged man (zvookster), Sunday, 28 April 2013 16:46 (ten years ago) link
it's like a synge play set in a racecar, but more craic
― rather ugged man (zvookster), Sunday, 28 April 2013 16:56 (ten years ago) link
― the norman wisdom of gaffers (darraghmac), Monday, 29 April 2013 12:06 (ten years ago) link
I'm aware that if I still lived in Ireland I'd already be tired of a) these chancers and b) this behaviour, but still:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpZbaz3Wlfw
― Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 30 April 2013 21:00 (ten years ago) link
i went to ireland once. my then-gf's host family was great. they got really drunk with us and then were like, making fun of their own kids.
― rock 'em sock 'em (Treeship), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 21:22 (ten years ago) link
then were like, making fun of their own kids.
― gyac, Tuesday, 30 April 2013 22:13 (ten years ago) link
yerwan playin mammy is inspired
― the norman wisdom of gaffers (darraghmac), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 22:22 (ten years ago) link
just dipping in to say i LOVE that rally vid posted upthread, those dudes are the best & their accents RULE
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 22:31 (ten years ago) link
i'm guessing cavan, could be monaghan tho
― the norman wisdom of gaffers (darraghmac), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 22:32 (ten years ago) link
xpost most of the americans i have known in my life, including my parents, are not the type of people who even complain about their kids to strangers. the cult of childhood is very strong among upper middle class people in central jersey at least, and kids are like status symbols here... everyone thinks their kid is amazing. so this irish family was pretty different than that, even though they seemed like great parents who would do things with their kids etc.
― rock 'em sock 'em (Treeship), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 22:59 (ten years ago) link
lol catholics
― the norman wisdom of gaffers (darraghmac), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 23:03 (ten years ago) link
― 乒乓, Tuesday, April 16, 2013 9:54 PM (3 months ago)
lol btw
― clique- your heels, together (darraghmac), Monday, 29 July 2013 07:49 (ten years ago) link
darragh what do you make of this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JllQi0cNRuM
― 乒乓, Friday, 30 August 2013 23:56 (ten years ago) link
Cant view cos itd wake yerwan. The screenshot is promising, ill get back to you asap.
― "Asshole Lost in Coughdrop": THAT'S a story (darraghmac), Saturday, 31 August 2013 00:00 (ten years ago) link
adult on helium imo
― "Asshole Lost in Coughdrop": THAT'S a story (darraghmac), Monday, 2 September 2013 22:53 (ten years ago) link
also sounds like a fucking performance school kid with a script basically i hope they and the pushy parent behind them die roaring tbh
― "Asshole Lost in Coughdrop": THAT'S a story (darraghmac), Monday, 2 September 2013 22:54 (ten years ago) link
sorry to hear u dont share i love music's the 1975 fixation
― So hot in Herrenvolk (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Monday, 2 September 2013 22:56 (ten years ago) link
Darragh do schools have drama clubs in ireland
― 乒乓, Monday, 2 September 2013 22:58 (ten years ago) link
you've lost me xp
― "Asshole Lost in Coughdrop": THAT'S a story (darraghmac), Monday, 2 September 2013 22:58 (ten years ago) link
most villages now do drama clubs because we have lots of empty halls now and sure you have to give the hoors a legitimate day job to keep the country wives off the scent
― "Asshole Lost in Coughdrop": THAT'S a story (darraghmac), Monday, 2 September 2013 22:59 (ten years ago) link
http://www.ilxor.com/ILX/NewAnswersControllerServlet?boardid=41
― So hot in Herrenvolk (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Monday, 2 September 2013 23:00 (ten years ago) link
what the fuck is that to do with me
― "Asshole Lost in Coughdrop": THAT'S a story (darraghmac), Monday, 2 September 2013 23:00 (ten years ago) link
Darragh she sounds like a precocious drama club president
― 乒乓, Monday, 2 September 2013 23:02 (ten years ago) link
i did not enjoy her performance, 8 yr old irish girls are much funnier and less mannered than that ime tho tbf i don't as a rule truck with the dubs if i can help it
― "Asshole Lost in Coughdrop": THAT'S a story (darraghmac), Monday, 2 September 2013 23:03 (ten years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50zbJxgT4ok
― "Asshole Lost in Coughdrop": THAT'S a story (darraghmac), Monday, 2 September 2013 23:05 (ten years ago) link
this is what im saying
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDOoEIfADfs
― "Asshole Lost in Coughdrop": THAT'S a story (darraghmac), Monday, 2 September 2013 23:06 (ten years ago) link
we're going deep dyao if it gets too much you just whistle a jig and tap yr feet and i'll be there like a green jiminy cricket ok
― "Asshole Lost in Coughdrop": THAT'S a story (darraghmac), Monday, 2 September 2013 23:07 (ten years ago) link
the 1975 are a band with i) famous showbiz parentage ii) high pitched vocals iii) notional 'trending' relevance
― So hot in Herrenvolk (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Monday, 2 September 2013 23:07 (ten years ago) link
i have only one of those things, idk why you'd try to pin this on me.
here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAJcP2dDSvY
― "Asshole Lost in Coughdrop": THAT'S a story (darraghmac), Monday, 2 September 2013 23:12 (ten years ago) link
note: no actual attack on jedward fans, more's the pity
is 'knacker' kind of omerta in polite liberal society like pikey or whatever
― So hot in Herrenvolk (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Monday, 2 September 2013 23:13 (ten years ago) link
what would be the best dialectal pejorative for niall quinn
― So hot in Herrenvolk (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Monday, 2 September 2013 23:14 (ten years ago) link
nakh what's the deal with pikey
― 乒乓, Monday, 2 September 2013 23:16 (ten years ago) link
Darragh you should go work for the tourism department
The Emerald Bile
― 乒乓, Monday, 2 September 2013 23:17 (ten years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xEl2JH6ruOw
girl at 1:00 otm obv
― "Asshole Lost in Coughdrop": THAT'S a story (darraghmac), Monday, 2 September 2013 23:18 (ten years ago) link
knacker, tbph, ought to be verboten in polite society but we're prob knot quite there yet.
idk where it falls irt pikey or chav, there's a definite edge to it tho. as flung at yr actual travellers it's an evil, as a pejorative for yr standard tracksuit wearer etc the cut is less imo but i mean this is ilx im not gonna draw lines as to an 'acceptable' usage of the term
― "Asshole Lost in Coughdrop": THAT'S a story (darraghmac), Monday, 2 September 2013 23:20 (ten years ago) link
Skanger less offensive than knacker, maybe?
― Inte Regina Lund eller nån, mitt namn är (ShariVari), Monday, 2 September 2013 23:21 (ten years ago) link
i would not do well in tourism as we do it, tho i like to think that funded for a year with a handycam and a socialising budget i could sell the place yeah tbph
one-on-one i encouraged at least one touristing ilxor to overpay for at least three lunches so i mean given the backing i could get results
― "Asshole Lost in Coughdrop": THAT'S a story (darraghmac), Monday, 2 September 2013 23:22 (ten years ago) link
skanger def less so, and mainly because (afaik) it doesn't have the actual roots in yr minority group like knacker does.
― "Asshole Lost in Coughdrop": THAT'S a story (darraghmac), Monday, 2 September 2013 23:23 (ten years ago) link
How many drinks did you make him/her buy you xp
― 乒乓, Monday, 2 September 2013 23:25 (ten years ago) link
talking point: should emo kids in provincial towns should feel bad for calling their tracksuited oppressors 'pikeys'
― So hot in Herrenvolk (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Monday, 2 September 2013 23:25 (ten years ago) link
pikey = pejorative for romanis
not an irish question, disqualified
― "Asshole Lost in Coughdrop": THAT'S a story (darraghmac), Monday, 2 September 2013 23:27 (ten years ago) link
no drinks, lunchtime lunch
― "Asshole Lost in Coughdrop": THAT'S a story (darraghmac), Monday, 2 September 2013 23:28 (ten years ago) link
nakh are u aware of our vincent browne
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70pFmnILJn8
― "Asshole Lost in Coughdrop": THAT'S a story (darraghmac), Monday, 2 September 2013 23:29 (ten years ago) link
deems in more advanced media markets a talking point is more than just a 'question', it's the closest our age gets to socratic discourse
― So hot in Herrenvolk (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Monday, 2 September 2013 23:30 (ten years ago) link
yes i am aware but not especially so
i've not bought the irish times in quite a while
― So hot in Herrenvolk (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Monday, 2 September 2013 23:32 (ten years ago) link
emo kids in provincial towns should feel bad about being emo kids in provincial towns, there's prob fucking cows need milking
i'm not ever sure what one should feel bad about saying about ppl you dont like in yr teens, to address the q. yr a teen and they're cunts, it's hard to draw up rules that cover the necessary ground.
― "Asshole Lost in Coughdrop": THAT'S a story (darraghmac), Monday, 2 September 2013 23:34 (ten years ago) link
can they say knackers
― So hot in Herrenvolk (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Monday, 2 September 2013 23:39 (ten years ago) link
'can they'
well as a responsible adult you'd be having a word obv
― "Asshole Lost in Coughdrop": THAT'S a story (darraghmac), Monday, 2 September 2013 23:40 (ten years ago) link
don't you think a fairer response would be to empower the so called 'knackers' to give the emo kids a second round of punishment beatings in order to correct their racism?
― So hot in Herrenvolk (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Monday, 2 September 2013 23:43 (ten years ago) link
i think what you've prob got to do is arm the emos sufficently so that there exists reason enough for a detente and nothing really ever kicks off, yr emos learn to lean in and participate, yr knackers obv start to see the benefit of mutual non-aggression pacts at an early stage in their criminal careers, they prob get round to destroying the gaa lads before xmas term ends as a unified if uneasy force
― "Asshole Lost in Coughdrop": THAT'S a story (darraghmac), Monday, 2 September 2013 23:47 (ten years ago) link
guys what "tinkers"
― well if it isn't old 11 cameras simon (gbx), Monday, 2 September 2013 23:53 (ten years ago) link
what ABOUT
deems u gotta do a taxonomy of rural irish teenage groups/stereotypes
― So hot in Herrenvolk (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Monday, 2 September 2013 23:54 (ten years ago) link
nah
'tinkers' an offensive enough term but it doesnt imo/e have the edge of knacker to it- there'd be old ppl out rural that remember when a tinker was a tinker and would have mended, sharpened, fixed around the place. they'd have called into my grandmothers and been known and known there was welcome and tinker was how they were known.
but prob nowadays it's just a softer way of marking the travellers tbh
― "Asshole Lost in Coughdrop": THAT'S a story (darraghmac), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 00:07 (ten years ago) link
the way i hear it my mom wasn't allowed to talk to the tinker boy
― well if it isn't old 11 cameras simon (gbx), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 00:21 (ten years ago) link
irish teen groups idk
there was a load of them mighty boosh kids, they'd have been grunge when i was a lad and emo prob a few years behind me but they were boosh iirc. now they just wear yellow shoes with stripey tights. as a group they'd be known as eejits. there's a lot more of them in dublin, or than i remember from when i was at school.
there's yr skangers, you'll have known them
there's yr group of kinda normalish indie kids, not standing out or anything beyond a partic satchel or w/e. ilxy looking yknow.
there's preppy kids in dublin. we didn't have them.
there's culchie kids. struggling for style and maybe getting there or not as the solid upbringing brought them out of themselves or not. teeth are better these days.
gaa lads. we had gaa lads. not quite jocks ime experience until i moved to a bigger town, then yeah def stereotype jocks.
idk. i stress i grew up in rural communities and we had p much fuck all of anything beyond culchie or normal kids. the only other group of note were eh prob under the heading 'troubled' kids where the parents were alcos or just fucked or w/e i mean we had more of those than we did booshes skangers or preppy combined
― "Asshole Lost in Coughdrop": THAT'S a story (darraghmac), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 00:21 (ten years ago) link
didnt u play gaa
― So hot in Herrenvolk (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 00:24 (ten years ago) link
yr mom was rural gbx iirc, i would never have asked her age but yeah if she was rural in the 50's or 60's the tinker divide, i guess here now, was probably nothing like as pronounced as it is now ito standards of poverty/living or what have you.
i was 16 when we moved to a town where they were travellers but tbh by that stage, or in that town, or w/e, it was not a distinct culture, they'd all have been housed and settled and not really any different from many townie kids from estates as i'd have seen em
― "Asshole Lost in Coughdrop": THAT'S a story (darraghmac), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 00:25 (ten years ago) link
i played hurling during one of my incarnations (donegal 1988-94 iirc) but never really football, tbrr i was an athletics star when that wasnt any fucking good to you in rural ireland but no i never played team sports and never went near the fuckin gaa lads in actual games those guys would kill you
― "Asshole Lost in Coughdrop": THAT'S a story (darraghmac), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 00:27 (ten years ago) link
darragh did you know any asians growing up
― 乒乓, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 00:27 (ten years ago) link
lol wtf man srsly i was probably notable enough for knowing some english ppl growing up
― "Asshole Lost in Coughdrop": THAT'S a story (darraghmac), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 00:31 (ten years ago) link
the other day an erudite elderly relative was explaining the moral superiority of gaelic fitba, sthing like more opportunities to score, not english
― So hot in Herrenvolk (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 00:31 (ten years ago) link
i saw a black guy in a hotel in killybegs in 1993 i was 12 i guess it was 'woah'
― "Asshole Lost in Coughdrop": THAT'S a story (darraghmac), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 00:32 (ten years ago) link
darragh are you friends with any asians now irl, any mates
― 乒乓, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 00:32 (ten years ago) link
the superiority in gaelic and the ease of scoring is that it causes u as a defender to front the fuck up i think. you sit off, he scores, anywhere within 40 yards. hence, prob, the noted leniency on physical contact vs other sports such as soccer, rugby, wrestling or murder
― "Asshole Lost in Coughdrop": THAT'S a story (darraghmac), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 00:33 (ten years ago) link
since this is now the ask deems thread, what were your athletics events and how good were u and do u think u could outsprint michael dawson over 100m
― So hot in Herrenvolk (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 00:34 (ten years ago) link
yeah my mom was rural as hell (UP HILL BOTH WAYS, NO RUNNING WATER, AYE WE RAISED RABBITS), and in the 50s as well
― well if it isn't old 11 cameras simon (gbx), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 00:35 (ten years ago) link
xp nope, tho i promise i've not been avoiding em or anything
the newest mate i've met irl is a rather spiffing young gay military history grad of norman heritage who is v politically active. he would, imo, make an excellent addition to hibernian ilx but he tends to make jokes of questionable taste regarding the lower orders etc so maybe not just yet
― "Asshole Lost in Coughdrop": THAT'S a story (darraghmac), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 00:38 (ten years ago) link
lol this always turns into the ask deems threads and i bet the irish ilxors are rtde
boys u13 champion donegal 1993 in 200m, 100m hurdles, long jump, high jump and 1500m at yr service, ulster champ high jumper and 4th in all ireland that year (tho i was forced to wear spiked shoes which threw me)
couldnt outsprint dawson now, no, but back then i'd back myself against most (i was silver in the 100m fwiw but yerman was all-ireland winner that year so i wasn't gutted)
― "Asshole Lost in Coughdrop": THAT'S a story (darraghmac), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 00:40 (ten years ago) link
i do prob need an ask deems thread tbrr on volume alone if not noteworthiness or expertise
― "Asshole Lost in Coughdrop": THAT'S a story (darraghmac), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 00:42 (ten years ago) link
what was your best 100m? dawson would be maybe high 12s or something idk? we won't be harsh and force his limited mind to navigate any real or metaphorical hurdles so just flat out peak deems vs peak dawson
― So hot in Herrenvolk (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 00:43 (ten years ago) link
― well if it isn't old 11 cameras simon (gbx),
ya fuck all eating in a rabbit we were lucky (ancestrally like) we had the fishing
― "Asshole Lost in Coughdrop": THAT'S a story (darraghmac), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 00:43 (ten years ago) link
deems are there any irish tv shows you rate and would recommend watching
― 乒乓, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 00:44 (ten years ago) link
idk these weren't timed events that i recall nakh
― "Asshole Lost in Coughdrop": THAT'S a story (darraghmac), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 00:44 (ten years ago) link
deems do you feel j.r.r. tolkien appropriated any of yer culture for the lord of the rings and if so which parts
― 乒乓, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 00:45 (ten years ago) link
'the irish' = deems, everyone knows this and assents
― So hot in Herrenvolk (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 00:46 (ten years ago) link
eh factual or dramatic or documentary style or what
i mean there's this show called 'hands' that i can't find anywhere online but shows every few years and it is filmmaker going from town to town just spending an hour each time on a particular craftsman and it is a+ record of (at a guess) 60's ireland as well as being the 'how it's made' of its day, if how it's made focused on men drinking strong tea before making cartwheels or raising honeybees or casting iron in a shed or w/e
'reeling in the years' is a p good newsreel show that does year-to-year summations of the stories, scandals, music, fashion, sport, adverts w/e of that year, it's a good starter
drama- ppl rep for 'love/hate' which deals with post celtic tiger drug/gang drama- not watched but it's not under fierce competition here.
politics- nothing glitzy or as clever as yr jon stewarts etc, but current affairs are well served by yr primetime, frontline, tonight with aforementioned vincent browne i guess.
i am not massively 'cultured' tbh. watch some hurling if you can find a hd clip, that's the stuff. and guinness ads.
― "Asshole Lost in Coughdrop": THAT'S a story (darraghmac), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 00:50 (ten years ago) link
jrr tolkien- can't say as any of it resonates strongly tbh. it's a v british work and if we were appropriated anywherre it may well be as the dunlander oathbreakers skulking in ignorance and fear as we faded into nothingness in the far hills away from the light and warm evenings of yr brees and yr brandybucks
― "Asshole Lost in Coughdrop": THAT'S a story (darraghmac), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 00:52 (ten years ago) link
The Dunlendings almost all had beards, dirty faces, and long matted hair. They also wore clothes of leather and animal skin. The weapons carried by Dunlendings were simple but effective for their purpose. They usually fought with clubs and pitchforks, and at times they carried torches to act as lights at night and to burn buildings by day. The buildings that Dunlendings lived and worked in were crude shacks of wood and animal skin that were often sabotaged by wargs and sometimes the Rohirrim
^^^^
― "Asshole Lost in Coughdrop": THAT'S a story (darraghmac), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 00:53 (ten years ago) link
So the dunlenders were a bunch of scrappers
― 乒乓, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 00:54 (ten years ago) link
― 乒乓, Monday, September 2, 2013 8:44 PM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4hmFPBf-C8
― max, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 00:55 (ten years ago) link
while that was good enough, apparently they were.
we do not get to see, tbh, if, after the king returned, they developed into a race of lugubrious drunkards prone to religion and property development
― "Asshole Lost in Coughdrop": THAT'S a story (darraghmac), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 00:56 (ten years ago) link
can't see that max
max's ppl are from roscommon, ireland does not, imo, get much realer than roscommon, like the west but without even 'the fishing' ffs
― "Asshole Lost in Coughdrop": THAT'S a story (darraghmac), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 00:57 (ten years ago) link
i have found hands, thank u thread
― "Asshole Lost in Coughdrop": THAT'S a story (darraghmac), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 00:58 (ten years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JuTNhRjbhU
sally o'brien and the way she might look at you
― max, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 00:58 (ten years ago) link
yeah tho 'my people' who are from ireland comprise only like 1/8 of my total people, maybe 1/16th, i can never remember
― max, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 00:59 (ten years ago) link
still i love ireland and i love the irish and love sally o'brien and the way she might look at you and the pint of harp
i dont want to hear a fuckin sound out the back of the class at 1:30 dye hear me lads
― "Asshole Lost in Coughdrop": THAT'S a story (darraghmac), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 00:59 (ten years ago) link
lmao ty4 sally o'brien
― 乒乓, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 01:00 (ten years ago) link
1/16 is p much purebred for a 'yank' tbf max
these days sally o'brien would skull that pint of harp but it'd be more likely the pint of drugs and she'd lep a fence to rape ya god save ireland
― "Asshole Lost in Coughdrop": THAT'S a story (darraghmac), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 01:00 (ten years ago) link
now im not saying things were better nor worse before but a man gets tired repairing fences i'll swear
― "Asshole Lost in Coughdrop": THAT'S a story (darraghmac), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 01:01 (ten years ago) link
the relative lack of 'culture' is one of the best things about ireland, the seeping nothing shit that is the aura of content and envelopes everything even if u dont pay attention to the content itself
the benefits of being a small country where there are only a couple of national newspapers and 80% of the tv music etc is imported, like there is no 'stephen fry' in ireland, there is probably some person who interview ppl on rte but there isn't 'david frost', i don't think u even use the term 'national treasure', it just seemed easier to avoid culture in this sense that it is in england
― So hot in Herrenvolk (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 01:03 (ten years ago) link
an exception would be that everyone has some gossip related to u2
we have culture but it is idk
like, i'd guess that with cultural nationalism as it developed in the late 19th c you didn't get to choose the culture you had, it was tacitly (explicitly?) agreed that 'this' is irish/gaelic culture, 'this' is a unified banner and we must of necessity run with it in order to develop even the concept that we can forge and keep an identity. i think that probably continued right through dev and all that, with the obvious proviso that we had the writers- i think that they would themselves prob acknowledge themselves as outside the system of culture as agreed tho, even as it dominated and swamped them in most of what they did.
the concept of an irish culture that is free to develop and explore itself and be irish culture merely from the fact of irish origin as opposed to conforming to yr historical type will in time imo probably bring us to a comfortable satellite position with the uk, but with curlier writing and the knowledge that we have authenticity in our bones should we ever need it
and we'll always have the writers
― "Asshole Lost in Coughdrop": THAT'S a story (darraghmac), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 01:11 (ten years ago) link
rly we have much better ppl to delve into every aspect of that and agree/disagree, would read that thread tho
― "Asshole Lost in Coughdrop": THAT'S a story (darraghmac), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 01:13 (ten years ago) link
oh fuck, fr ted is obv noteworthy as irish tv gets dayo, if you can get into that you will genuinely be close to the heart of something important
― "Asshole Lost in Coughdrop": THAT'S a story (darraghmac), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 01:14 (ten years ago) link
watch fr ted, read o'brien or one of the others, i'm not getting into who you should listen to but personally planxty from my limited exposure do seem like a good broad target, drink some green spot if you can get it. you'd be not far off something true.
― "Asshole Lost in Coughdrop": THAT'S a story (darraghmac), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 01:16 (ten years ago) link
yeah i wondered why u hadn't directed dayo to the the father ted offends the craggy island chinese community episode
― So hot in Herrenvolk (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 01:16 (ten years ago) link
if i moved to the auld country should i settle in craggy island
― 乒乓, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 01:18 (ten years ago) link
Set on the fictional Craggy Island, a remote location off Ireland's west coast
;_;
― 乒乓, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 01:19 (ten years ago) link
i have lived on yr craggy island archetype and the broadband isnt great but the girls and the scenery made up for it
― "Asshole Lost in Coughdrop": THAT'S a story (darraghmac), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 01:20 (ten years ago) link
oh dont worry, if craggy island is fictional it's because they couldnt settle on just one spot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3Ro9f5pmhM
irish sports analysis is important
― "Asshole Lost in Coughdrop": THAT'S a story (darraghmac), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 01:21 (ten years ago) link
here's my island dayo, let me know if it fits the bill as a craggy island substitute
http://photos3.media.pix.ie/3A/6C/3A6CA84D1E22463EBF63D5AFC56D3698-0000314357-0001866253-00800L-30D5E183ABB7405CBDF7BC2BAA703C3B.jpg?w=840
― "Asshole Lost in Coughdrop": THAT'S a story (darraghmac), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 01:24 (ten years ago) link
how would someone from a visible minority do in achill?
― So hot in Herrenvolk (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 01:26 (ten years ago) link
Ay that's a craggy island xp
― 乒乓, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 01:29 (ten years ago) link
idk
it's insular and clannish but not in that stupid movie way.
curiosity, and more than likely clumsy reference to it a fair bit at first, but in a hamfisted goodnatured discomforted way, or then again maybe terrified to make any ref at all. hard to say.
not much in the way of whispers before or after you, and i'd like to imagine nothing in the way of outright abuse based on it- we save that for the english ime, and they fuckin love it until they're drunk and looking for trouble anyways.
small community, everyone from outside yr house is a bit strange to you bytimes, kind of thing. ppl from sligo are foreign, and brits are likely as not mental nuisance artists. a quiet lad from bangladesh that got his round in would do ok i think.
― "Asshole Lost in Coughdrop": THAT'S a story (darraghmac), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 01:32 (ten years ago) link
When you go out deems what's a good benchmark for how many pints to consume in a night. Let's say from 9 PM - 3 AM
― 乒乓, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 01:34 (ten years ago) link
distant dublin cousin of mine is married to someone from i think indonesia and aiui there hasn't been too much racism, they are both drs which probably helps in terms of being accepted but there were difficulties with the marrying a muslim aspect, i think it got smoothed over but who knows what grudges are held by the old ones out in the country
― So hot in Herrenvolk (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 01:36 (ten years ago) link
i dont drink pints but taking yr question in fair spirit call it one every 30-40 mins until lurching into the nightclub round the back at around 1am and then it's double vodka red bulls as fast as the staff can handle ye until kicking out time
― "Asshole Lost in Coughdrop": THAT'S a story (darraghmac), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 01:37 (ten years ago) link
What's your poison of choice then
― 乒乓, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 01:38 (ten years ago) link
how would you answer that question with an impersonal you, like if u were writing a style guide for young dubliners?
― So hot in Herrenvolk (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 01:38 (ten years ago) link
xp
i) dublin is different tbf, either side of it and both sides of itii) i dunno would being a doctor of southeast asian descent lower any likely impact- it is a bit of a cliche like.
― "Asshole Lost in Coughdrop": THAT'S a story (darraghmac), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 01:39 (ten years ago) link
whcih question nakh
fuck ya i typed 'knack' there and had to turn back
my country cousins are now into 'drugs' which i think means skag and a bit of the old thieving from senile relatives apparently
― So hot in Herrenvolk (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 01:40 (ten years ago) link
poison is usually straight and amber coloured, if i'm thirsty it'll be a cider of any quality but v rarely more than 2 pints, a standard 9-3 is rare but given those parameters i'll go shot-for-pint with the lads until the nightclub and prob join them in the stupidity at that stage
― "Asshole Lost in Coughdrop": THAT'S a story (darraghmac), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 01:41 (ten years ago) link
drink qn
― So hot in Herrenvolk (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 01:41 (ten years ago) link
heroin! in the country!
i am a terrible naif when it comes to what the youth may or may not be up to, but i dont think unkindly of them for it or anything. my crowd from 97-99 were mainly british (as alluded to) and therefore anything was to be expected of them and spliff was not a stranger to the extended gang, tho sadly i never partook
― "Asshole Lost in Coughdrop": THAT'S a story (darraghmac), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 01:44 (ten years ago) link
i would not write a style guide for young dubliners and i cant remember enough of my grammar (for we learn v little of it as a formal subject tbrr) to fully comprehend what is being asked of me there
― "Asshole Lost in Coughdrop": THAT'S a story (darraghmac), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 01:46 (ten years ago) link
i remember having the "drugs aren't intrisically evil but if you overdo anything it will make you a tool" convo with my eldest and he looked at me in a way that made me not want to bother sharing my horror stories with him
― imagine Brigadoons (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 01:47 (ten years ago) link
what the hell time is it there deems
― well if it isn't old 11 cameras simon (gbx), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 01:48 (ten years ago) link
it is TRANSFER DEADLINE DAY here gbx. time stops at 22:59:59 so it is that time
― "Asshole Lost in Coughdrop": THAT'S a story (darraghmac), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 01:49 (ten years ago) link
i am currently awaiting confirmation from the FA as to whether i can move to the bedroom
― "Asshole Lost in Coughdrop": THAT'S a story (darraghmac), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 01:50 (ten years ago) link
i think most of the alkies were spirits predominantly, so maybe a half a dozen bottles a week between home and away? i don't really have any idea what safe responsible friday blackout drinking in ireland entails, family alcoholism means a lot of abstemious types who wouldn't touch more than a couple drinks
― So hot in Herrenvolk (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 01:50 (ten years ago) link
oh right what's the norm
idk friday night drinking for yr teen discovering their limits would probably entail, after the usual settling-in period, one of these without being considered exceptional. i recall planning to do two of them more than once, tho i can't claim to have much recollection after the fact of having done so
― "Asshole Lost in Coughdrop": THAT'S a story (darraghmac), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 01:54 (ten years ago) link
A naggin contains 200ml of liquid.[2] The next size up from a naggin is 350ml in volume, often called a,"shoulder" "daddy-naggin" or "double naggin", despite falling short of truly containing twice the amount of fluid, the next size is 700ml and is known as a "neck". Naggins, particularly those of inexpensive vodka (such as Huzzar), are popular among youths, under-age drinkers and students. They are often implicated in binge drinking.
Although the smaller size is the same as the volume of a Chopine of wine, the bottles are usually significantly different in shape. The naggin bottle is typically short and flat, suitable for placing in a pocket
really covering what matters there tbf
like we are def talking underage here. idk once yr 18 do you keep count really
― "Asshole Lost in Coughdrop": THAT'S a story (darraghmac), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 01:55 (ten years ago) link
A naggin contains 200ml of liquid.[2]
the systeme integrale unit corresponding to a culchie's first fumbled shift
― So hot in Herrenvolk (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 02:00 (ten years ago) link
/internationale
― So hot in Herrenvolk (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 02:01 (ten years ago) link
"shift" has to be punt-era currency surely, can't imagine the tiger cubs didn't coin their own
― Henry Charles Hovell-Thurlow-Cumming-Bruce Hovell-Thurlow-Cumming-Br (seandalai), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 02:31 (ten years ago) link
The worst is 'feek', 'feekin a byur' god help us 35 miles away and its another language
― "Asshole Lost in Coughdrop": THAT'S a story (darraghmac), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 02:43 (ten years ago) link
xp two naggins and ice is a pint, and looks like water
― "Asshole Lost in Coughdrop": THAT'S a story (darraghmac), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 02:44 (ten years ago) link
I quite like the fact people who sneak drinks into pubs are called "crouching tiger" (hidden naggin).
Idk about Achill but kids growing up in most towns above 10,000 people would probably know a couple of Asians, Nigerians, definitely Poles, Lithuanians, etc, today, I think.
― Inte Regina Lund eller nån, mitt namn är (ShariVari), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 05:33 (ten years ago) link
Today, and towns over 10k, yeah sure
― "Asshole Lost in Coughdrop": THAT'S a story (darraghmac), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 08:30 (ten years ago) link
Makes u wonder how a burrito stall would do in clones
― "Asshole Lost in Coughdrop": THAT'S a story (darraghmac), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 08:31 (ten years ago) link
RE: good irish tv shows. wasnt this meant to be good? i didnt see any of it
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pure_Mule
― Old Boy In Network (Michael B), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 08:41 (ten years ago) link
What do you suppose an Irish burrito would contain xp
― 乒乓, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 08:41 (ten years ago) link
carrots and parsnipa
― Old Boy In Network (Michael B), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 08:42 (ten years ago) link
like the way this got onto the harp ad within about 20 posts.
xpost bacon and cabbbage
― Wantaway striker (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 08:42 (ten years ago) link
Carrots, parsnips, bacon, cabbage xxp
― "Asshole Lost in Coughdrop": THAT'S a story (darraghmac), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 08:43 (ten years ago) link
That'll do for me
― Tommy McTommy (Tom D.), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 08:45 (ten years ago) link
According to Google Maps, the nearest Mexican restaurant to Clones is in Navan. If we all chip in some seed money, i think this Irish burrito stall thing could have legs.
― Inte Regina Lund eller nån, mitt namn är (ShariVari), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 08:46 (ten years ago) link
The Burrit'o Stall
― Tommy McTommy (Tom D.), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 08:46 (ten years ago) link
Can we christen it "An asal beag"?
― Wantaway striker (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 08:49 (ten years ago) link
As Alamo
― "Asshole Lost in Coughdrop": THAT'S a story (darraghmac), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 08:55 (ten years ago) link
Carrots, parsnips, bacon, cabbage
A sausage drowned in ketchup and some pudding and we're done.
I can see a visit to El Toro Loco in my future next time I'm home.
― Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 09:22 (ten years ago) link
Cuisín mar ya
― "Asshole Lost in Coughdrop": THAT'S a story (darraghmac), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 09:29 (ten years ago) link
burrito place opened in limerick last month. looks manky inside though.
― Old Boy In Network (Michael B), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 10:00 (ten years ago) link
Manky hôte
― "Asshole Lost in Coughdrop": THAT'S a story (darraghmac), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 10:05 (ten years ago) link
La Manqueria
― Old Boy In Network (Michael B), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 10:49 (ten years ago) link
Shay Guevara's
― "Asshole Lost in Coughdrop": THAT'S a story (darraghmac), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 10:50 (ten years ago) link
Fiddle Castro's
― Tommy McTommy (Tom D.), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 10:51 (ten years ago) link
Frida Carlow's
― Tommy McTommy (Tom D.), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 10:53 (ten years ago) link
Tac O'Bell
― imagine Brigadoons (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 10:54 (ten years ago) link
Wasn't he the guy who was Speaker of the House of Representatives for years?
― Tommy McTommy (Tom D.), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 10:55 (ten years ago) link
he corrida pig under his arm
― "Asshole Lost in Coughdrop": THAT'S a story (darraghmac), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 10:56 (ten years ago) link
always dreamt of a banda/country n'irish fusion. theyre both the same really
― Old Boy In Network (Michael B), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 11:02 (ten years ago) link
when i say dream i actualy mean nightmare
Due to the current "anti-meat fad", the government has broadcasted television advertisements to discourage meat consumption. In the north, the Ulster fry has been particularly cited as being a major source for a higher incidence of cardiac problems, quoted as being a "heart attack on a plate". All the ingredients are fried, although more recently the trend is to grill as many of the ingredients as possible. These advertisements however, do not explain the health and vigor of native Irish people while eating their traditional diets high in both fat and meat.[28]
― "Asshole Lost in Coughdrop": THAT'S a story (darraghmac), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 10:44 (ten years ago) link
what's the diff between an "ulster fry" and just a "fry"? i refuse to believe ni catholics aren't killing themselves with 2x rashers eggs sausages plus beans and chips/bread/tea on a daily basis.
― Wantaway striker (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 10:45 (ten years ago) link
jesus christ
― "Asshole Lost in Coughdrop": THAT'S a story (darraghmac), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 10:50 (ten years ago) link
what the fuck do you want? what do you think you're achieving here?
3000 DEAD man, DEAD.
LET IT GO
ps it's mainly farls and/or a fried soda slice, we have done this
― "Asshole Lost in Coughdrop": THAT'S a story (darraghmac), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 10:51 (ten years ago) link
yeah i remember lengthy discussion of regional breakfast variations
― iMacaroon dragoons (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 10:52 (ten years ago) link
lolz
i don't recall this even tho every food topic is done to death on ilx. farls are more common now south of the border. they fry a slice of soda bread? intriguing.
xpost i don't remember the exact ulster fry diff being discussed, tho i remember a discussion along these lines.
― Wantaway striker (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 10:54 (ten years ago) link
it's slightly overblown tbh, mainly cos of religion
― "Asshole Lost in Coughdrop": THAT'S a story (darraghmac), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 10:54 (ten years ago) link
tho tbh, change the demographics of the country all you like, i can't see the muslim fry ever really taking off
― "Asshole Lost in Coughdrop": THAT'S a story (darraghmac), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 10:55 (ten years ago) link
RFI: The Traditional Irish Fry-Up
― "Asshole Lost in Coughdrop": THAT'S a story (darraghmac), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 10:56 (ten years ago) link
christ im hungry
do catholics in the north refrain from farls/fried slices of soda bread?
― Wantaway striker (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 10:56 (ten years ago) link
8 years ago. ffs.
They surely don't fry soda bread? Disgusting savages.
― Tommy McTommy (Tom D.), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 11:01 (ten years ago) link
i've definitely had is as part of an ulster fry, tho maybe it was an admin error tbf
― "Asshole Lost in Coughdrop": THAT'S a story (darraghmac), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 11:05 (ten years ago) link
they saw you were an outsider.
― Wantaway striker (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 11:14 (ten years ago) link
yeah i had the roi plates on the car- we were just nipping through on a shortcut getting to donegal, i didn't see the harm. jesus, i was such a fool!
― "Asshole Lost in Coughdrop": THAT'S a story (darraghmac), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 11:16 (ten years ago) link
we were lucky to get out without our eggs broken
So, apparently British people don't understand the word "banjaxed"!
― Evil Juice Box Man (LocalGarda), Monday, 30 September 2013 10:28 (ten years ago) link
Banjaxed Britain
― Evil Juice Box Man (LocalGarda), Monday, 30 September 2013 10:32 (ten years ago) link
They all reflexively agreed with u and tutted that jaxed was very dangerous whatever it was
― hey racists can be joyless too yknow (darraghmac), Monday, 30 September 2013 10:35 (ten years ago) link
not only am i familiar with the word but i can tell you that Terry Wogan wrote a book of that title in the 70s
― how do i shot cwmbran? (Noodle Vague), Monday, 30 September 2013 10:59 (ten years ago) link
Yeah I'm familiar with the word also.
― Tim, Monday, 30 September 2013 11:06 (ten years ago) link
nobody in my office knew it. i mailed my entire editorial team cos i was going to use it in a headline. nobody had ever heard of it.
dictionary says it's american in origin.
― Evil Juice Box Man (LocalGarda), Monday, 30 September 2013 11:13 (ten years ago) link
Basement Banjaxed
― not a lunch that is hot (snoball), Monday, 30 September 2013 11:30 (ten years ago) link
I love that one of the references for "banjaxed" (here: http://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/banjaxed) is
Martin McGuinness was known to have confessed in October 1994 to the Irish Prime Minister: "We know the arms will have to be banjaxed.TIMES, SUNDAY TIMES (2001)
― gyac, Monday, 30 September 2013 11:31 (ten years ago) link
banjaxing for peace
― Evil Juice Box Man (LocalGarda), Monday, 30 September 2013 11:33 (ten years ago) link
armalite and the banjax box
― gyac, Monday, 30 September 2013 11:34 (ten years ago) link
"will have to be banjaxed" is an odd way of putting it. In my experience things become banjaxed but you do not actively banjax them
― Number None, Monday, 30 September 2013 11:56 (ten years ago) link
OED says "Etymology unknown; perhaps originally Dublin slang". Going to try using it at work, maybe I can sneak something like this into a paper:
1968 Observer 29 Dec. 19/1 You completely banjax the whole psychological impact.
― Luigi Nono, le petit robot (seandalai), Monday, 30 September 2013 11:57 (ten years ago) link
OED has lots of examples of transitive 'banjax', though it does seem odd to me:
1969 G. Lyall Venus with Pistol viii. 48 The man is a twit. I mean, he banjaxed that Zurich trip.1972 New Yorker 28 Oct. 40/1 Ha-ha, so she ups and banjaxed the old man one night with a broken spade handle.1976 U. Holden String Horses viii. 102 The dawn suicide the day before had made a lot of work and worry, had banjaxed things for a while.1979 T. Wogan Banjaxed (1980) 78, I am out to banjax the bookies.
― Luigi Nono, le petit robot (seandalai), Monday, 30 September 2013 11:58 (ten years ago) link
"will have to be banjaxed"
martin mcnulty
― Evil Juice Box Man (LocalGarda), Monday, 30 September 2013 12:17 (ten years ago) link
Not sure you could go a day in this British office without hearing something described as banjaxed. (Generally active and transitive in use but with a barely defined subject, e.g. "well that's banjaxed the computer system")
― the supreme personality of Godhead : a summary study (a passing spacecadet), Monday, 30 September 2013 12:43 (ten years ago) link
a thing can only be banjaxed
it cannot have been banjaxed
it is not banjaxed by anyone
it is now, as we stand, banjaxed, and that is all
― hey racists can be joyless too yknow (darraghmac), Monday, 30 September 2013 13:03 (ten years ago) link
I shall defer to your jaxment
― the supreme personality of Godhead : a summary study (a passing spacecadet), Monday, 30 September 2013 13:24 (ten years ago) link
im trying to come up with a suitably droll derivation using bean ui jaic or somesuch but tbh i've a dental appt coming up and am distracted by the likelihood of my mouth being beanjaicsed afterwards
― hey racists can be joyless too yknow (darraghmac), Monday, 30 September 2013 13:27 (ten years ago) link
the jax which will have been banned
― how do i shot cwmbran? (Noodle Vague), Monday, 30 September 2013 13:29 (ten years ago) link
bán jacks are a bad idea ime but for that to work the descriptor has to follow the noun iirc and it doesnt sound partic like ban so i mean
― hey racists can be joyless too yknow (darraghmac), Monday, 30 September 2013 13:29 (ten years ago) link
what does the OED give as earliest usage?
― zvookster, Monday, 30 September 2013 13:36 (ten years ago) link
Actually it stems from the Urdu "Bahnn Gehecked" which refers to a large pottery cooking bowl or gourd....These gourds were not very resistant to heat and developed cracks at the base.When the Pasthu women lifted these onto their shoulders the base frequently came away showering the carrier with hot liquid or stew.
By common usage then the term became a descriptor for an item which was faulty or unsafe.For instance when someone would attempt to lift a full basket of cobras for the snake charmer someone might say .."Be carefull Parminder....that could be bahnn gehecked...
British soldiers in India brought the expression to these islands
― hey racists can be joyless too yknow (darraghmac), Monday, 30 September 2013 13:37 (ten years ago) link
boards.ie so caveat emptor
shit i made a sweet caveat emptor joke the last day and forget it now
From the OED 2nd ed.
Anglo-Ir. slang.
Earliest quotations:‘F. O'Brien’ At Swim-two-Birds 240 Here is his black heart sitting there as large as life in the middle of the pulp of his banjaxed corpse. 1956 S. Beckett Waiting for Godot (rev. ed.) 79 Lucky might get going all of a sudden. Then we'd be banjaxed [1954: ballocksed]. 1959 D. O'Neill Life has no Price ix. 169, I had the right to leave him talk, I suppose, and banjax us altogether? 1968 Observer 29 Dec. 19/1 You completely banjax the whole psychological impact. 1969 G. Lyall Venus with Pistol viii. 48 The man is a twit. I mean, he banjaxed that Zurich trip. 1972 New Yorker 28 Oct. 40/1 Ha-ha, so she ups and banjaxed the old man one night with a broken spade handle. 1974 Nature 22 Nov. 334/1 My sense of enlightenment was somewhat tempered by the banjaxed mood in which I found myself. 1976 U. Holden String Horses viii. 102 The dawn suicide the day before had made a lot of work and worry, had banjaxed things for a while. 1979 T. Wogan Banjaxed (1980) 78, I am out to banjax the bookies.
― hey racists can be joyless too yknow (darraghmac), Monday, 30 September 2013 13:38 (ten years ago) link
is it one of a pair with bollixed now i wonder
the american dictionary merriam webster gives 1939, but boyle sez it in juno & the paycock and i suspect it's o'casey's coinage
― zvookster, Monday, 30 September 2013 13:38 (ten years ago) link
yep suspect so xp
― zvookster, Monday, 30 September 2013 13:39 (ten years ago) link
like podge & rodge?
― gyac, Monday, 30 September 2013 13:40 (ten years ago) link
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=banjoed on the uk tip
― zvookster, Monday, 30 September 2013 13:41 (ten years ago) link
banjaxed and bollixed is beautiful and i am def gonna start using it
pyoor o'casey yeah
― hey racists can be joyless too yknow (darraghmac), Monday, 30 September 2013 13:42 (ten years ago) link
originally from Caesar iirc: "alea banjacta est"
― Luigi Nono, le petit robot (seandalai), Monday, 30 September 2013 15:03 (ten years ago) link
The organisers of Cork’s main contribution to The Gathering have apologised after controversy flared up at Cork City Council over their use of the Cork term of abuse, ‘langer’, in relation to Michael Collins.
The controversy arose when Fine Gael members of Cork City Council noticed that a brochure promoting Cork Rebel Week carried a Cork Rebel Passport in the name of Michael Collins and in the slot for “sex”, bore the word ‘langer’.
The word ‘langer’ is a Cork term of abuse whose usage was generally confined to Leeside but after Roy Keane reportedly used it describe Mick McCarthy during their contretemps in Saipan before the 2002 World Cup, its familiarity spread.
The Saipan incident prompted local Cork songwriter Tim O’Riordan to pen ‘The Langer Song” which he recorded with his band Natural Gas which helped to promote ‘langer’ as a term of abuse beyond the Rebel County.
According to Sean Beecher in his Dictionary of Cork Slang, the word ‘langer’ has two meanings - ‘a disagreeable person’ as in ‘Go away, you langer’ or ‘a penis’, with the second derivation possibly coming from langur, a long tailed monkey in India.
topical
― hey racists can be joyless too yknow (darraghmac), Tuesday, 1 October 2013 10:58 (ten years ago) link
ime cork people would use langer almost affectionately about fellow corkonians.
― Evil Juice Box Man (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 1 October 2013 11:03 (ten years ago) link
Disgusting savages
― Tommy McTommy (Tom D.), Tuesday, 1 October 2013 11:08 (ten years ago) link
― Tioc Norris (LocalGarda), 17 April 2013
i've decided that this is richie sadlier btw
― hey racists can be joyless too yknow (darraghmac), Tuesday, 1 October 2013 11:11 (ten years ago) link
"famous ppl"
― Number None, Tuesday, 1 October 2013 11:12 (ten years ago) link
― So hot in Herrenvolk (Nilmar Honorato da Silva)
eejit, if anyone ever wanted to say anything bad about lovely niall.
― hey racists can be joyless too yknow (darraghmac), Tuesday, 1 October 2013 11:12 (ten years ago) link
sadlier's accent kinda annoys me.
― Evil Juice Box Man (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 1 October 2013 11:15 (ten years ago) link
snob
― hey racists can be joyless too yknow (darraghmac), Tuesday, 1 October 2013 11:16 (ten years ago) link
tho would it not be his tone and mannerism that might annoy you?
― hey racists can be joyless too yknow (darraghmac), Tuesday, 1 October 2013 11:17 (ten years ago) link
get out of it, he's not even got a strong dublin accent. not at all.
― Evil Juice Box Man (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 1 October 2013 11:17 (ten years ago) link
^ delivered with sadlieresque disgust/dismissal
― hey racists can be joyless too yknow (darraghmac), Tuesday, 1 October 2013 11:18 (ten years ago) link
it's a combo, he's sort of arrogant and that comes through in the way he says things. i do like him though, moreso since i copped he was sadlier and his role on the show is "expert". i thought he was just another one of the regular presenters at first and him taking this role seemed irritating.
― Evil Juice Box Man (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 1 October 2013 11:19 (ten years ago) link
i like him, think he's the best prospect to emerge since .... well, jesus, since the 70 year olds i guess
― hey racists can be joyless too yknow (darraghmac), Tuesday, 1 October 2013 11:20 (ten years ago) link
he is good, and has good knowledge. he needs to resist the pull towards just being negative for the sake of it though, even stronger in ireland when in the shadow of the elders.
― Evil Juice Box Man (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 1 October 2013 11:21 (ten years ago) link
his buckling under the thuggish threat of brady after the german game was a warning to all upstarts everywhere that they haven't gone away you know, it could have been subliminal advert sponsored directly by FF rump waiting in the long grass to take ireland back from these shiny know-nothing critics that don't remember italia 90, aren't sthrong on the national question and don't understand how 'we do things' here. but they'll learn.
if he'd only fuckin nutted the old cunt straight twixt brows i think labour would have headed this morning's polls.
― hey racists can be joyless too yknow (darraghmac), Tuesday, 1 October 2013 11:27 (ten years ago) link
yeah brady is easily beaten down too. he cares too much and actually works in the game so a gleeful dunphy can always cut him to pieces.
― Evil Juice Box Man (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 1 October 2013 11:31 (ten years ago) link
I imagine Sadlier was quite cheerful til he encountered the terrifying black cloud of anhedonia that emanates directly from the core of Ray Houghton's being. That kind of encounter changes a man
― Number None, Tuesday, 1 October 2013 11:32 (ten years ago) link
it's a different thing, alright, that lurks behind houghton's eyes.
it's like the end of a fantasy epic, you've killed the brady ogre and the dancing dunphy imp, you've probably been guided by the twinkling gruffness of giles, and you face houghton and think "this should be easy" and then in his eyes......the blackness that eats universes
― hey racists can be joyless too yknow (darraghmac), Tuesday, 1 October 2013 11:35 (ten years ago) link
haha - and yet despite his unshakeable evil, he also has less gravitas than the others, cos he just seems like such a fucking whingebag. i've always wanted george hamilton to just lose the rag and go "look we paid for you to sit here, am i going to have to listen to you moaning for the whole match?"
― Evil Juice Box Man (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 1 October 2013 11:43 (ten years ago) link
the damp mediocrity of true evil, small e evil
― hey racists can be joyless too yknow (darraghmac), Tuesday, 1 October 2013 11:44 (ten years ago) link
No discussion of Sadlier complete without mention of his incredible Milwall Christmas Party story - which probably also belongs in the Real England thread...
http://www.newstalk.ie/reader/47.302.347/1754/show_list_0_0/
― Blandford Forum, Tuesday, 1 October 2013 12:05 (ten years ago) link
cant read/see that, is it a podcast
― hey racists can be joyless too yknow (darraghmac), Tuesday, 1 October 2013 12:30 (ten years ago) link
neither can I. Must be juicy though, the url is like 0_0
― Number None, Tuesday, 1 October 2013 12:41 (ten years ago) link
That's weird. Hmm.
https://www.google.co.uk/#q=richie+sadlier+milwall+christmas+party
Should see you right, link titled 'The footballer's Christmas Party - Why it all goes wrong'
― Blandford Forum, Tuesday, 1 October 2013 12:50 (ten years ago) link
sounds promising will stream later
ps i am at work and we use explorer 1.0 which might explain difficulties
― hey racists can be joyless too yknow (darraghmac), Tuesday, 1 October 2013 13:13 (ten years ago) link
'The Irish has new answers' i can't help reading this and imagining an exasperated finnish finance minister dreading the latest proposal from noonan
― hey racists can be joyless too yknow (darraghmac), Tuesday, 1 October 2013 13:19 (ten years ago) link
I was thinking line from a bad Eleventh Hour sketch myself.
― gyac, Tuesday, 1 October 2013 14:53 (ten years ago) link
A government scientist and his attractive counterpart try to save people from deadly
i've read enough i'm in
― hey racists can be joyless too yknow (darraghmac), Tuesday, 1 October 2013 15:23 (ten years ago) link
deadly buzz
― Luigi Nono, le petit robot (seandalai), Tuesday, 1 October 2013 15:44 (ten years ago) link
o_O
http://ded.increpare.com/~locus/oiche_mhaith/
― Ma mère est habile Mais ma bile est amère (Michael White), Thursday, 3 October 2013 14:57 (ten years ago) link
DADDY: FUCK OFF
seems legit.
(This is great though. Where did you find this?)
― gyac, Thursday, 3 October 2013 15:02 (ten years ago) link
what is this
― Victims’ tears deter rodent paedophiles (darraghmac), Thursday, 3 October 2013 15:03 (ten years ago) link
srsly
― Victims’ tears deter rodent paedophiles (darraghmac), Thursday, 3 October 2013 15:07 (ten years ago) link
got bored after everyone died
It's not terribly deep but still, wtf?
― Ma mère est habile Mais ma bile est amère (Michael White), Thursday, 3 October 2013 15:25 (ten years ago) link
deems m8 what were your impressions the first time you saw england
― nakhchivan, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 23:04 (ten years ago) link
"at least the motorways are built properly"
― pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 23:08 (ten years ago) link
ireland has very few motorways but there's nothing wrong with them in material terms
― nakhchivan, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 23:10 (ten years ago) link
grotty hotel in london overnighting on way to france, school tour. burger king milkshakes were a velvety sensation such as i'd not dreamed of. there were gang fights outside our window and we had to stay indoors. some p cute girls came in, got drunk and danced to lola on our bed. i was reading 'last chance to see'.
i liked it.
― unblog your plug (darraghmac), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 23:12 (ten years ago) link
xp our roads beat yours into a cocked hat, you can't get anywhere driving in britain it's a fuckin joke.
a fine introduction
― nakhchivan, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 23:13 (ten years ago) link
who built the irish motorways? i don't mean germany i mean the construction workers themselves
pfunkboy is suggesting all the irish builders were building british motorways
― nakhchivan, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 23:15 (ten years ago) link
first encounteer with real england was flying knock-wet midlands and virgin training it to old trafford and back to stay in a generic city centre birmingham hotel that night. streets were ugly and threatening and every building looked like the back of another building. kfc zinger box was good. i was reading, iirc, one of robin hobb's farseer trilogy. nobody came in and danced on the bed, but there wasn't as much fighting outside and we could come and go as we pleased. c+
― unblog your plug (darraghmac), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 23:16 (ten years ago) link
thats the old stereotypexp
― pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 23:16 (ten years ago) link
fianna fail were in charge during the building of a lot of the newer motorways and national routes, so it's quite likely that we sent them over to the brits under agreed terms, organised a terrorist scare so that no work could be carried out, had them back into dun laoghaire that night with the material and equipment and had the job done here before anyone knew different. leases and documents all provided by goodmans meats.
― unblog your plug (darraghmac), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 23:17 (ten years ago) link
can't recall the firms involved tbrr idk if sisk do motorways, twas all eu funding but yeah the roads running through the place now are tip top. the n5 through swinford, which iirc you will have known nakh, has won several awards or so i'm informed every time i sit next to the GIS fella at work outings.
― unblog your plug (darraghmac), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 23:20 (ten years ago) link
spending a couple of nights in wigan certainly made me appreciate ireland that little bit more
― Old Boy In Network (Michael B), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 23:20 (ten years ago) link
when I first came to England I thought "I feel like I'm on TV".
― Luigi Nono, le petit robot (seandalai), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 23:21 (ten years ago) link
yeah i recognise that, weatherfield vibes from the walk back from old trafford to the centre, ross kemp on gangs from the front gates of anfield until the safety of the airport bus and rogue cops go wild caught on tv! from birmingham centre after 8pm
― unblog your plug (darraghmac), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 23:24 (ten years ago) link
spent a v memorable night in dulwich after a 0-0 draw with villa in which a cousin had an episode and scratched up several passers by before we spotted her turning, up til then it had all been fond cameraderie and singsongs to total eclipse of the heart and sambuca in the vale i have videos of most of the above iirc
― unblog your plug (darraghmac), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 23:27 (ten years ago) link
6/10, that one, mainly for total eclipse
weatherfield vibes lol
I was in your County Kerry this year and things got pretty real. Chips on the pavements, smashed up phone boxes, the fuckin lot.
― "Left-wing" poptimism: An infantile disorder (oppet), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 23:29 (ten years ago) link
by 'your' I am of course addressing the entire irish peoples wherever they may be.
― "Left-wing" poptimism: An infantile disorder (oppet), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 23:30 (ten years ago) link
tralee?
― unblog your plug (darraghmac), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 23:30 (ten years ago) link
xp we'll take it with good cheer, at least you got the country right
every building looked like the back of another building = this is probably true of most cities of the non-historical/picturesque variety but probably more true of english ones than most other european countries east of the soviet bloc
― nakhchivan, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 23:31 (ten years ago) link
Nah not tralee. That's a real dump. Right on the coast and that. It's very nice round there tbf.
― "Left-wing" poptimism: An infantile disorder (oppet), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 23:33 (ten years ago) link
There was a group of people passing through on the way to puck fair, that's all. All very friendly I'm sure.
― "Left-wing" poptimism: An infantile disorder (oppet), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 23:34 (ten years ago) link
ballybunion? that can be a bit dodge
― Old Boy In Network (Michael B), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 23:34 (ten years ago) link
jaysus i figured tralee from the warzone depictions, that town has gone ta fuck and no mistake from what i hear
― unblog your plug (darraghmac), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 23:37 (ten years ago) link
Look lads I'm not going to start naming villages cos you just never know, do you.
While I was there I saw a v twee 'cupcakery' and of course it was run by some bloody English.
― "Left-wing" poptimism: An infantile disorder (oppet), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 23:38 (ten years ago) link
xpost to darragh: it has indeed
― Old Boy In Network (Michael B), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 23:39 (ten years ago) link
ah you wouldn't be without the english arts and crafts and suchlike cottage industries, they'll fuckin pay anything for anything if you tell them its local
― unblog your plug (darraghmac), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 23:41 (ten years ago) link
fuckin eejits
deems what do u think of this dude
http://www.irishtimes.com/polopoly_fs/1.1315463.1361917127!/image/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/box_140_140/image.jpg
― nakhchivan, Friday, 25 October 2013 19:01 (ten years ago) link
in how many letters
― drugs/lies: poll (darraghmac), Friday, 25 October 2013 19:04 (ten years ago) link
i'll try to think of a uk equivalent but rly..
― drugs/lies: poll (darraghmac), Friday, 25 October 2013 19:05 (ten years ago) link
derivatives
― snoop dogey doge (seandalai), Friday, 25 October 2013 23:39 (ten years ago) link
Eejit I think is the word that springs to mind
― mirostones, Saturday, 26 October 2013 12:18 (ten years ago) link
eejit with serious public road frontage.
let me know if i've ticked any of the wrong boxes here
religious nut, craves the sceptre across the back from the old dayspretty much a fascist wrt the proper authorities doing the public's thinkin for them and all that entailsa bad, bad, stupid writer without any interest in actual discussion nor argument v-a-v exchange of views or any suchgives men's rights/the kickback against lefty nutcases a bad name tbh
feel free to add more
― drugs/lies: poll (darraghmac), Saturday, 26 October 2013 12:44 (ten years ago) link
shit songwriter with weird Eurovision fixation
― Number None, Saturday, 26 October 2013 12:47 (ten years ago) link
lol I'd forgotten about that
― snoop dogey doge (seandalai), Saturday, 26 October 2013 13:06 (ten years ago) link
Who is it?
― pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Sunday, 27 October 2013 16:07 (ten years ago) link
john waters. i read my father's copy of jiving at the crossroads at one point & remember very little of it.
can we get a list of ppl who give men's rights a good name?
― zvookster, Sunday, 27 October 2013 16:10 (ten years ago) link
― drugs/lies: poll (darraghmac), Sunday, 27 October 2013 16:13 (ten years ago) link
thought not
― zvookster, Sunday, 27 October 2013 16:15 (ten years ago) link
:x
― drugs/lies: poll (darraghmac), Sunday, 27 October 2013 16:16 (ten years ago) link
nearest brit equivalent to john waters is paul morley, although thats quite unfair on paul morley
― subaltern 8 (Michael B), Sunday, 27 October 2013 16:52 (ten years ago) link
Is he iona or can he not even get on with that lot
― drugs/lies: poll (darraghmac), Sunday, 27 October 2013 17:16 (ten years ago) link
do yez call puddings pudding or do you just call whiney sausage pudding
― ͼѾͽ (sic), Monday, 28 October 2013 11:54 (ten years ago) link
pudding as after dinner sweet is called dessert/afterspudding as xmas pudding boiled dough raisins etc kinda suety thing is xmas puddingwhiney sausage pudding is black or white pudding
― drugs/lies: poll (darraghmac), Monday, 28 October 2013 11:56 (ten years ago) link
couldnt be clearer tbh
afters is british imo
― Legitimate space tale (LocalGarda), Monday, 28 October 2013 11:57 (ten years ago) link
why don't u take a plane to boston, drive up the coast to gloucester, find my father and say that to his face
― drugs/lies: poll (darraghmac), Monday, 28 October 2013 12:01 (ten years ago) link
cos like
― drugs/lies: poll (darraghmac), Monday, 28 October 2013 12:02 (ten years ago) link
if pudding is afters, then what do you call befores
― 乒乓, Monday, 28 October 2013 12:02 (ten years ago) link
famine
― Legitimate space tale (LocalGarda), Monday, 28 October 2013 12:03 (ten years ago) link
my dad was actually born in england. he only revealed this a few years ago.
― Legitimate space tale (LocalGarda), Monday, 28 October 2013 12:04 (ten years ago) link
well far be it form the likes of you then to tell a true gael what to call his hard-earned afters imo
― drugs/lies: poll (darraghmac), Monday, 28 October 2013 12:19 (ten years ago) link
never heard anything other than dessert used.
― Legitimate space tale (LocalGarda), Monday, 28 October 2013 12:23 (ten years ago) link
I concur
― Number None, Monday, 28 October 2013 12:27 (ten years ago) link
i, conchur
― drugs/lies: poll (darraghmac), Monday, 28 October 2013 12:42 (ten years ago) link
I've never heard it called 'afters' either.
― gyac, Monday, 28 October 2013 19:57 (ten years ago) link
i'll have to check this deeply worrying and sudden crack in the aul fella's credibility
― drugs/lies: poll (darraghmac), Monday, 28 October 2013 19:58 (ten years ago) link
neither have i
― stylings (Matt P), Monday, 28 October 2013 20:03 (ten years ago) link
tell him "stylings (Matt P)" hasn't heard it either ok
this is serious
― drugs/lies: poll (darraghmac), Monday, 28 October 2013 20:05 (ten years ago) link
Afters sounds very english. Like 'pop'. Lets have some pop with our afters. I cant imagine anyone else saying it.
― pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Monday, 28 October 2013 20:16 (ten years ago) link
Be a sport and get out the afters, what?
― gyac, Monday, 28 October 2013 20:17 (ten years ago) link
for my afters, i prefer now & laters
― 乒乓, Monday, 28 October 2013 20:18 (ten years ago) link
jaysus im shook
― drugs/lies: poll (darraghmac), Monday, 28 October 2013 20:31 (ten years ago) link
I hate to break it to you but tiffin is english too
― pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Monday, 28 October 2013 20:38 (ten years ago) link
I just hope you dont have a piece of chicken and beans or hash browns with a fryup
― pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Monday, 28 October 2013 20:40 (ten years ago) link
gasphttp://www.youririshshop.com/WebRoot/BT/Shops/Store_002E_Shop904/Products/CA001/CAD002-Cadburys-Tiffin-48x49g_.jpg
― gyac, Monday, 28 October 2013 20:45 (ten years ago) link
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― Legitimate space tale (LocalGarda), Monday, October 28, 2013 12:03 PM (8 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
can i just btw
― drugs/lies: poll (darraghmac), Monday, 28 October 2013 20:53 (ten years ago) link
afters [ˈɑːftəz]n (functioning as singular or plural) Brit1. (Cookery) Informal dessert; sweet2. (Team Sports / Soccer) Slang a confrontation or physical violence between football players immediately after they have been involved in a challenge for the ball
i have heard the former but chiefly it's the latter
― r|t|c, Monday, 28 October 2013 21:04 (ten years ago) link
i've never really thought about it before now but it's cute that fitba has its own subtle little coinage
― r|t|c, Monday, 28 October 2013 21:06 (ten years ago) link
Irish tiffin =
http://s3.thejournal.ie/media/2013/04/choccrisps-2-373x500.jpg
― oppet, Monday, 28 October 2013 21:07 (ten years ago) link
no that doesn't exist
― snoop dogey doge (seandalai), Monday, 28 October 2013 22:42 (ten years ago) link
Irish Tiffin = http://www.youririshshop.com/WebRoot/BT/Shops/Store_002E_Shop904/Products/CA001/CAD002-Cadburys-Tiffin-48x49g_.jpgeven though Mint Crisps and Golden Crisps are clearly better.
― gyac, Monday, 28 October 2013 22:54 (ten years ago) link
http://ballymoreshoponline.stormwebhost.com/prodimages/Jacobs%20-%20Mikado.JPG
― snoop dogey doge (seandalai), Monday, 28 October 2013 22:58 (ten years ago) link
http://zxcode.com/blog/wp-uploads/2010/12/big-time.jpg
sight of one of these in a nearby shop triggered off some ancient memories. i cant believe they still make these. unless theyve been there since the 80s.
― subaltern 8 (Michael B), Monday, 28 October 2013 23:00 (ten years ago) link
there was a mint crisp thing that seemed of that big time era too. quite cheap chocolate but it was still nice. cool packaging on the big time bar.
― Legitimate space tale (LocalGarda), Monday, 28 October 2013 23:05 (ten years ago) link
http://www.pennyjellies.com/files/cache/ae6c9b0f9fc0d92ea84ee0831977be61.jpg
― subaltern 8 (Michael B), Monday, 28 October 2013 23:07 (ten years ago) link
macaroon, big time, mint crisp, frosties- the 10p snacktime classics
― drugs/lies: poll (darraghmac), Monday, 28 October 2013 23:14 (ten years ago) link
and he wonders why he's no fuckin teeth
Macaroons <3 I still buy them every time I see them, even at grossly inflated prices in Cybercandy.
What about those Cadbury Touchdown bars? They were 10p. My sisters and I maintained they tasted "different" depending on the packaging.
― gyac, Monday, 28 October 2013 23:23 (ten years ago) link
dont know them?
chomp and smileys, they were the other ones. but they went to 12p
12p!
outrageous price on two counts, first, 12p like, secondly wtf has 2p on them.
― drugs/lies: poll (darraghmac), Monday, 28 October 2013 23:24 (ten years ago) link
also, these dentists' favourites.http://www.thesweetspot.ie/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/p/1/p1170095.jpg
― gyac, Monday, 28 October 2013 23:24 (ten years ago) link
yeah like bigtime, tear the fillings off ya
― drugs/lies: poll (darraghmac), Monday, 28 October 2013 23:25 (ten years ago) link
god im hungry and also my teeth hurt
Touchdowns were small chocolate covered wafery things that had American footballers on them, they were in either a purple or red wrapper. We were of the opinion the purple ones tasted nicer.
― gyac, Monday, 28 October 2013 23:26 (ten years ago) link
the smartie phenomenomnomnom
then smarties added orange flavour to the orange ones and you couldnt cite them anymore
― drugs/lies: poll (darraghmac), Monday, 28 October 2013 23:37 (ten years ago) link
Hmmm.
I want to know, did any of ye call these frozen drinks?http://www.freefromforkids.co.uk/sites/default/files/Mr-Freeze-Ice-Pops.jpg
― gyac, Monday, 28 October 2013 23:53 (ten years ago) link
mr freeze as per packet in my house
― drugs/lies: poll (darraghmac), Tuesday, 29 October 2013 00:03 (ten years ago) link
i also remember a sort of fake ice cream cup that had mallow and chocolate and wafer. was really good in a filthy kind of way.
touchdowns were really nice. smileys also.
― Legitimate space tale (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 29 October 2013 00:09 (ten years ago) link
ah no there was no bite in them mallow cups, and iirc they weren't even wrapped. gack.
― drugs/lies: poll (darraghmac), Tuesday, 29 October 2013 00:21 (ten years ago) link
Mr. Freeze called Mr. Freeze round our way.
― snoop dogey doge (seandalai), Tuesday, 29 October 2013 01:20 (ten years ago) link
Not even the internet can help me in my vain struggle to find a picture of a packet of Barry's Gloves - the Barry McGuigan themed crisps
― subaltern 8 (Michael B), Tuesday, 29 October 2013 11:01 (ten years ago) link
the mallow cups were often stale but the sweetness made up for it, in the same way as stale chocolate cake is perfectly good.
― Legitimate space tale (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 29 October 2013 11:03 (ten years ago) link
Phoenix Park (Irish: Páirc an Fhionnuisce[1]) is an urban park in Dublin, Ireland, lying 2–4 km west of the city centre, north of the River Liffey. Its 11 km perimeter wall encloses 707 hectares (1,750 acres), one of the largest walled city parks in Europe
hmhm we were told it was the biggest in the world
but then we were told we had the highest sea cliffs in europe out the back of the achill head, really i ought to go back and re-examine where the education ended and the propaganda began eh
― drugs/lies: poll (darraghmac), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 12:13 (ten years ago) link
o'connell st the widest in europe, i remember that going around. shannon the longest river in the british isles. anglo.
― Legitimate space tale (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 12:17 (ten years ago) link
they used to say the highest sea cliffs thing about Slieve League too
also when I was growing up they always used to tell us Letterkenny was the "fastest growing town in Europe"
― Number None, Wednesday, 30 October 2013 13:01 (ten years ago) link
lol it must've been 3 houses not so long back then
― http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVzmecHQ4TM (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 13:32 (ten years ago) link
They just rezoned the bluestacks
fwiw i think slieve league are the highest. btw.
― drugs/lies: poll (darraghmac), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 13:45 (ten years ago) link
Swords the biggest town in Ireland.
― Legitimate space tale (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 13:59 (ten years ago) link
According to wiki they're not even the highest in Ireland!
― Thomas K Amphong (Tom D.), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 14:02 (ten years ago) link
of course Letterkenny was also technically a city cos it had a cathedral
― Number None, Wednesday, 30 October 2013 14:02 (ten years ago) link
the strangest national pride myth i have heard is the anecdote that eamon de valera was one of only (some small number) people who could understand the theory of relativity
― nebby yolo (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 14:05 (ten years ago) link
irish monks saved latin from extinction
― nebby yolo (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 14:06 (ten years ago) link
killary harbour is the only fjord in the world outside of iceland
― nebby yolo (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 14:07 (ten years ago) link
iceland norway
Lough Swilly had that one too
― Number None, Wednesday, 30 October 2013 14:09 (ten years ago) link
st brendan discovered america
― Legitimate space tale (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 14:17 (ten years ago) link
mother teresa conquered india
― drugs/lies: poll (darraghmac), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 14:26 (ten years ago) link
back then you could kick a ball in the widest street in europe
― max, Wednesday, 30 October 2013 16:20 (ten years ago) link
willie joe padden was in new york, taking a well-earned break after the 89 final, when he came across the scene of a fire. a young woman was screaming for help from the top of the building- "my baby" my baby". "throw it down" sez bauld willie joe, "and i'll catch it". she demurred, in as many words. "throw the child down" he sez again, his deep voice booming heroically between the buildings, amidst smoke and screams, "and i'll catch it, god help us". the young mother remained torn but unconvinced.
willie joe pulled himself to his full height, for all the world as if he had been called all-a-sudden to an FCA muster in bundoran, and cried "i'm willie-joe padden from belmullet! i have one minor connacht title, one u-21 connacht title and five connacht senior titles, a county league medal and two gaeltacht medals!"- these he produced with great solemnity as he listed them each in turn. "there's men from here to listowel and back might drop your child from the height from me to you, but willie joe padden is not such a man!".
pressed by these claims (and, possibly, those flames) the mother felt she no longer held discretion in the matter. she flung the child (a mere blob of a crátúr, who would not be eligible even for a junior team for some decade yet) down the storeys towards the great man.
he, that master of newtonian differentiation as best practiced- from the eyes straight to the hands and never mind the computational centre at all- took his mark and leapt as was his wont in those days- like a kingfisher in reverse, diving straight up towards the falling target. his strong hands closed gentle around the child, and he hit the ground with an impact felt a street away in either direction.
as the crowd cheered in delight and disbelief, he proceeded to take three mighty steps and kicked the unfortunate infant a full seventy yards down the street.
― drugs/lies: poll (darraghmac), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 16:51 (ten years ago) link
booming post
― well if it isn't old 11 cameras simon (gbx), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 17:25 (ten years ago) link
that was told to me by a cousin of the man himself during a break in a fight at the web in belmullet
― drugs/lies: poll (darraghmac), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 17:52 (ten years ago) link
http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/5434/272/1600/WillieJoePadden.jpg
― subaltern 8 (Michael B), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 18:00 (ten years ago) link
ah stop im in bits looking at him
― midwife christless (darraghmac), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 18:01 (ten years ago) link
jaysus yerman beside him is awful like a sweeney isnt he, sweeneys lower now not sweeneys upper
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWZAGzGtNk0
― subaltern 8 (Michael B), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 18:03 (ten years ago) link
I bought the Indo today for fuck knows what reason, and ugh. 1an 0 D0h3rty needs to be killed.
― gyac, Wednesday, 30 October 2013 18:28 (ten years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztq5p-h64qc&feature=em-share_video_user
xp never ever the indo ffs i mean the times has gone to shit but jesus things are never that bad
― midwife christless (darraghmac), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 22:51 (ten years ago) link
story of my life
― forbz (Matt P), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 23:06 (ten years ago) link
xp i am hanging my head in shame
― gyac, Wednesday, 30 October 2013 23:46 (ten years ago) link
what's the story with marrying a non-Catholic in a church? can you do that?
― gyac, Wednesday, 13 November 2013 14:46 (ten years ago) link
http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/artsdesk/books/2013/11/18/author-kevin-barry-on-writing-short-stories-and-caring-less/
Should I go see this guy do a reading and get his books?
― curmudgeon, Monday, 18 November 2013 21:15 (ten years ago) link
I think he's brilliant. Start with his first short story collection, There Are Little Kingdoms, and go from there.
― Number None, Monday, 18 November 2013 21:18 (ten years ago) link
this is a good taster
http://www.newyorker.com/fiction/features/2010/02/01/100201fi_fiction_barry
― Number None, Monday, 18 November 2013 21:27 (ten years ago) link
marrying a non-Catholic in a church? can you do that?
Oh yes, especially if it's not a catholic church.
― Aimless, Monday, 18 November 2013 21:43 (ten years ago) link
x-post-- Thanks
― curmudgeon, Monday, 18 November 2013 21:47 (ten years ago) link
No, I looked into it in the meantime. Would be a pain in the hole & I don't like that you basically have to promise to raise your children Catholic.
― gyac, Tuesday, 19 November 2013 09:06 (ten years ago) link
One of my best man gigs was at a mixer, they went with the proddy church cos less hassles.
Cmere if michael d declares bankruptcy in the commons we'd be all clear in 12 months y/n
― 30 ch'lopping days left to umas (darraghmac), Tuesday, 19 November 2013 11:34 (ten years ago) link
Yeah but other half isn't even a Proddy like, I think you at least have to be baptised to marry in their church?
― gyac, Tuesday, 19 November 2013 11:47 (ten years ago) link
you basically have to promise to raise your children Catholic
Hey, you wanna get married or dontcha?
― Aimless, Tuesday, 19 November 2013 17:21 (ten years ago) link
wasnt a huge fan of it or anything but the dealer priest performance/sketch has haunted me ever since
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0AC520-cK1Q
― 30 ch'lopping days left to umas (darraghmac), Saturday, 23 November 2013 02:38 (ten years ago) link
v gabriel byrne in miller's crossing or something
forward to 1:05, even more haunting
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnofM3VYQ-g
― subaltern 8 (Michael B), Saturday, 23 November 2013 12:54 (ten years ago) link
wtfffffffffffffffffff
― 30 ch'lopping days left to umas (darraghmac), Saturday, 23 November 2013 17:33 (ten years ago) link
wow.
― wmlynch, Saturday, 23 November 2013 18:16 (ten years ago) link
This has been one of the great Irish union performances. That chorus of The Fields of Athenry was spell-binding. Missed the fucking kick though!
― Windsor Davies, Sunday, 24 November 2013 15:41 (ten years ago) link
the atmosphere now!
― Number None, Sunday, 24 November 2013 15:44 (ten years ago) link
Sexton never fancied that kick for whatever reason
― Number None, Sunday, 24 November 2013 15:45 (ten years ago) link
Fuck I can barely stay in my seat
― Windsor Davies, Sunday, 24 November 2013 15:46 (ten years ago) link
as much as I never want the all blacks to lose I'd love Ireland to win, especially while o'driscoll's still on the team.
― estela, Sunday, 24 November 2013 15:47 (ten years ago) link
ah jesus
― Number None, Sunday, 24 November 2013 15:47 (ten years ago) link
Ohhhh fuck THAT! This is unthinkably cruel
― Windsor Davies, Sunday, 24 November 2013 15:48 (ten years ago) link
fuck fuck fuck
― Number None, Sunday, 24 November 2013 15:48 (ten years ago) link
The twenty thosand native southside dub irish and anyone from limerick who went to a private school, away ta fuck
― 30 ch'lopping days left to umas (darraghmac), Sunday, 24 November 2013 15:49 (ten years ago) link
farcical
― Number None, Sunday, 24 November 2013 15:50 (ten years ago) link
Ah this is some bullshit, what a way to lose
― Windsor Davies, Sunday, 24 November 2013 15:52 (ten years ago) link
oh I am sincerely disappointed.
― estela, Sunday, 24 November 2013 15:54 (ten years ago) link
Lol ruling class
― 30 ch'lopping days left to umas (darraghmac), Sunday, 24 November 2013 15:56 (ten years ago) link
Sexton must be feeling like a reet chump. Dunno what you've got against this sport Deems, Ireland quite good and likeable and enjoyable to watch.
― Windsor Davies, Sunday, 24 November 2013 16:00 (ten years ago) link
― 30 ch'lopping days left to umas (darraghmac), Sunday, November 24, 2013 3:49 PM (12 minutes ago) Bookmark
i am very far from either
― Number None, Sunday, 24 November 2013 16:02 (ten years ago) link
I watched the last ten minutes after seeing a good part of my twitter timeline going nuts, and it was ten of the most tense minutes of sport I've seen in quite some time. Fuck knows how much anyone who actually supports Ireland must have been feeling, I was shitting it on their behalf all the way up to the All Blacks' try and have no loyalties whatsover.
― ailsa, Sunday, 24 November 2013 16:04 (ten years ago) link
Some ulster man you imo
Celtic tiger overrun, this tolerance of popularity amongst the oiks
― 30 ch'lopping days left to umas (darraghmac), Sunday, 24 November 2013 16:06 (ten years ago) link
deems how would avb have turned out if he had been born in the equivalent class in ireland rather than portugal
― carla jenkinvingne (nakhchivan), Sunday, 24 November 2013 16:08 (ten years ago) link
for this thought experiment he will also have had an english grandparent as he does irl
― carla jenkinvingne (nakhchivan), Sunday, 24 November 2013 16:09 (ten years ago) link
the important thing is never to talk about rugby with anyone in public
― Number None, Sunday, 24 November 2013 16:10 (ten years ago) link
Bankrupt but getting away with it. Heda been cheering thu goys on today for sure.
― 30 ch'lopping days left to umas (darraghmac), Sunday, 24 November 2013 16:11 (ten years ago) link
Worst sickener ever IMO. Awful. We just can't let this be another one in five passion performance, have to play at that level in every game.
That final pen we conceded was criminal, seconds from victory. Awful.
― Legitimate space tale (LocalGarda), Sunday, 24 November 2013 17:00 (ten years ago) link
This is bollocks obviously, about Limerick in particular. And rugby is increasingly popular on the north side, not just the posh bits either. You only have to see how tabloid coverage of it has ramped up in recent years.
Shouldn't even dignify this comatose grab for attention with a response but just this once.
― Legitimate space tale (LocalGarda), Sunday, 24 November 2013 17:04 (ten years ago) link
<3
― 30 ch'lopping days left to umas (darraghmac), Sunday, 24 November 2013 17:28 (ten years ago) link
Took you long enough mind
Dundrum shopping centre was erupting that last five mins tbf
― 30 ch'lopping days left to umas (darraghmac), Sunday, 24 November 2013 17:35 (ten years ago) link
darragh mac is declan lynch and i claim my five euro. i know (we all do) the certain rugger bugger loafer wearing type darragh is referring to and i esp. hate the way said they rag on soccer ("rugby is a thugs game played by gentlemen, soccer is a gentlemans game played by SHUT THE FUCK UP). but yeah the whole of limerick city is rugby mad not just the toffs. i couldnt give a shit about munster though (exacerbated by the fact of working in rugby-mad pub here in limerick) but ive always been psyched for the ireland rugby team since i was a kid. today was heartbreaking tbh, watched the last 30 mins in a shopping centre too.
― subaltern 8 (Michael B), Sunday, 24 November 2013 18:33 (ten years ago) link
Haha, took me long cos I was getting over the game. I'm from the north side and went to private school on the north side, FYI for future reference. Escaping on a technicality.
As the pain eases I can say that was one of the best rugby matches I've ever seen.
― Legitimate space tale (LocalGarda), Sunday, 24 November 2013 18:34 (ten years ago) link
Michael otm tho, the partisan stuff on both sides has faded so much. Plus the success of the Irish sides breeds popularity. I actually think the club rugby at Heineken Cup level is the best sports event there is.
― Legitimate space tale (LocalGarda), Sunday, 24 November 2013 18:36 (ten years ago) link
Australia Ireland in the 91 WC is my earliest and most painful sporting memory. You'll never take that away from me darragh
― Number None, Sunday, 24 November 2013 18:38 (ten years ago) link
I remember that well, I think I was too young to feel the pain. It's more my first memory of exhilarating sport.
― Legitimate space tale (LocalGarda), Sunday, 24 November 2013 19:02 (ten years ago) link
Game face off for a sec, wc 95 and simon geoghegan and all that seemed like the advent of rugby taking off (out west obv) and the golden generation and club successes have made it a widespread sport to follow all over (except connacht i still think)- but i also think you'd have to acknowledge it can prob only fall from current popularity, and ime there is no grassroots outside of the rugby schools.....
Fair play to them tho theyve punched well above their weight a long time now, and could really teach our footy lads (and mayo obv) a thing or two abt matchday mentality
― 30 ch'lopping days left to umas (darraghmac), Sunday, 24 November 2013 19:05 (ten years ago) link
is it falling from popularity though? i dont see that. it seems as popular maybe even more popular than GAA in rural areas atm
― subaltern 8 (Michael B), Sunday, 24 November 2013 19:14 (ten years ago) link
Think they manage it well around the gaa calendar- would say that it co-exists happily with the gaa but soccer seems to be viewed as a competitor (prob cos national team, trips to dub and abroad to watch them both, etc?) and thats been at a low ebb as rugby has powered on....monkeano 2 reverse that once bod dies
― 30 ch'lopping days left to umas (darraghmac), Sunday, 24 November 2013 19:17 (ten years ago) link
ireland must be in the top ten or so countries in the world for amount of fuck given about sports per capita
― carla jenkinvingne (nakhchivan), Sunday, 24 November 2013 19:18 (ten years ago) link
all the anglo sports except cricket and maybe tennis with above average interest in golf and horses, and gaa on top of that
― carla jenkinvingne (nakhchivan), Sunday, 24 November 2013 19:19 (ten years ago) link
yeah we fucking love sports
― subaltern 8 (Michael B), Sunday, 24 November 2013 19:21 (ten years ago) link
Athletics does well interest wiseGaa goes crazy for the few months of the year
Rugby- half of us go mad for it
Golf- half mad
horses- half mad
Soccer- mad
We'll watch anything if we can drink during sure
― 30 ch'lopping days left to umas (darraghmac), Sunday, 24 November 2013 19:49 (ten years ago) link
And to continue to claim malahide as northside is shambles on every level except for geographically imo, disgraceful sleight-of-land imo
― 30 ch'lopping days left to umas (darraghmac), Sunday, 24 November 2013 19:51 (ten years ago) link
wrong. it's not a poor area but north county dublin is a v diff place to south dublin. i don't have any personal claims about my class or whatever but i don't really get the south dublin thing either, it's a v diff world, compact, close-knit, nearer south city centre etc.
― Legitimate space tale (LocalGarda), Sunday, 24 November 2013 19:56 (ten years ago) link
no way it can only fall from popularity though, the sport is well-run, frequently entertaining, and ireland have some of the best players and clubs in the world. connacht is growing too, it's all growing, as long as international football remains turgid and faintly corrupt rugby will keep growing. we can't claim to produce any significantly good footballers anymore, not relative to rugby when we have 2/3 all-time greats and 4/5 world class players.
― Legitimate space tale (LocalGarda), Sunday, 24 November 2013 19:58 (ten years ago) link
aiden mcgeady would be a world class football player if it were only played in ireland/uk, new zealand/australia/south africa/france/italy/argentina/polynesia
― carla jenkinvingne (nakhchivan), Sunday, 24 November 2013 20:09 (ten years ago) link
although maybe argentina in that list raises the world class level a bit about poor old aiden
― carla jenkinvingne (nakhchivan), Sunday, 24 November 2013 20:10 (ten years ago) link
/above/
will you stop banging on about mcgeady? everyone knows hes shit
― subaltern 8 (Michael B), Sunday, 24 November 2013 20:12 (ten years ago) link
he wouldn't be world class even if it was only played in ireland/uk
― Legitimate space tale (LocalGarda), Sunday, 24 November 2013 20:17 (ten years ago) link
not shit! but anyway, he's a placeholder there for the argument that world class necessarily means less in rugby than football, replace him with james mccarthy and he would probably be one of the best ten midfielders from that list of nations, but wouldn't be in a list of thirty worldwide
― carla jenkinvingne (nakhchivan), Sunday, 24 November 2013 20:19 (ten years ago) link
this supports lg's reasoning though, that success breeds popularity and the reasonable prospect of international success is in the favour of rugby wrt football
― carla jenkinvingne (nakhchivan), Sunday, 24 November 2013 20:21 (ten years ago) link
can't argue with that, but i'm not sure that relative lack of meaning translates to fans, plus the smaller size of union does tend to mean better teams playing each other more often. that concentration of power does have its advantages.
xpost yeah like it's not that diff from gaa really, nobody is going to start talking about world class in an ireland-only sport but on a small island people are still going to get excited when an accessible team sport based on technical skills and aggression is practised well. rugby does appeal to the disgruntled uk/ire football fan too in some ways, with less of the class stuff in ireland to drag it down (despite what deems says!)
― Legitimate space tale (LocalGarda), Sunday, 24 November 2013 20:27 (ten years ago) link
International rules football (Irish: Peil na rialacha idirnáisiunta; also known as inter rules in Australia and compromise rules in Ireland) is a team sport consisting of a hybrid of football codes, which was developed to facilitate international representative matches between Australian rules football players and Gaelic football players.
― carla jenkinvingne (nakhchivan), Sunday, 24 November 2013 20:29 (ten years ago) link
There is a great Apres Match clip about international rules.
http://youtu.be/CTog_cbfH-g
― Ramnaresh Samhain (ShariVari), Sunday, 24 November 2013 20:36 (ten years ago) link
nakh has prob repped for mcgeady more than anyone else who has ever had to watch him on ilx
to the level of trolling tbfh
― 30 ch'lopping days left to umas (darraghmac), Sunday, 24 November 2013 22:29 (ten years ago) link
Rugby is ridic popular among all the GAA types I know, including the All-Stars. Popularity of golf and horse-racing probably underrated upthread too.
― gyac, Sunday, 24 November 2013 22:31 (ten years ago) link
did we? i thought we paid them due respect tbh!
― 30 ch'lopping days left to umas (darraghmac), Sunday, 24 November 2013 22:33 (ten years ago) link
idk, maybe it was my ~circles~ but people fucking LOVE their golf and horses ime, and anything else seems underrating it.
― gyac, Sunday, 24 November 2013 22:36 (ten years ago) link
heh maybe
my 'half mad' is a reference to half of the country being fucking *mad* about em tbf
― 30 ch'lopping days left to umas (darraghmac), Sunday, 24 November 2013 22:37 (ten years ago) link
― carla jenkinvingne (nakhchivan), Sunday, 24 November 2013 19:19 (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
they qualified for the T20 World Cup only today
― veneer timber (imago), Sunday, 24 November 2013 22:38 (ten years ago) link
ye'll have cricket e'en so's it's so you'll develop yer eoin morgans and boyd rankins and hand 'em over when ripe
― veneer timber (imago), Friday, 22 November 2013 05:39 (2 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― veneer timber (imago), Sunday, 24 November 2013 22:39 (ten years ago) link
yeah but no one cares
― Number None, Sunday, 24 November 2013 22:39 (ten years ago) link
unless we beat the English obvs
― gyac, Sunday, 24 November 2013 22:39 (ten years ago) link
there was a tiny ripple of interest when we beat England that time but that was cos y'know, we beat England
― Number None, Sunday, 24 November 2013 22:41 (ten years ago) link
yeah that's the interest in other sports, the chance to beat the brits obv
re: golf- interest comes and goes a good bit imo, but when the ryder cup or w/e comes along it's feverish
― 30 ch'lopping days left to umas (darraghmac), Sunday, 24 November 2013 22:41 (ten years ago) link
― Number None, Sunday, 24 November 2013 22:39 (1 minute ago)
right
― a poet and Educational Consultant based in Peterborough (nakhchivan), Sunday, 24 November 2013 22:41 (ten years ago) link
feel like horses are the real irish sport
― a poet and Educational Consultant based in Peterborough (nakhchivan), Sunday, 24 November 2013 22:42 (ten years ago) link
~glory~
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imqwnWWegVI
― veneer timber (imago), Sunday, 24 November 2013 22:43 (ten years ago) link
mmm, but all the golf courses/pitch & putts throughout the country though? I'm sure I read we had one of the highest golf course/people rations in the world.
also, we have actually produced golfers worthy of the Ryder Cup & they'd be pretty recognised.
― gyac, Sunday, 24 November 2013 22:44 (ten years ago) link
well we're kinda a golf course waiting to happen all over the country- had an argument with tuomas before on this re it being an elite sport everywhere in the world- and with that comes production of golfers i guess....kinda like being one of relatively few countries playing rugby (tho for rugby it's through an infrastructure of private schools and privilege obv)
but im not arguing that golf isn't a big sport here!
but it is one of them that swells and ebbs every few years. snooker, darts, f1- often i dont wonder if they each have a few years in cycle with what RTE covers that few years or w/e- but yeah golf's over that plateau now ito the availability and popularity of participation
― 30 ch'lopping days left to umas (darraghmac), Sunday, 24 November 2013 22:50 (ten years ago) link
ah golf is big at every major ime - more in terms of watching it than necessarily playing it tho.
― Legitimate space tale (LocalGarda), Sunday, 24 November 2013 22:56 (ten years ago) link
club membership out west is about 100 quid a year and most lads would have a set of clubs or access to same, so plenty would play it regularly when weather allows but yeah again with a big event interest peaks ito watching/discussion
blather and dhrink is still a big part of irish interest in whatever is on tv tho id say, we're all experts on the high jump once every four years etc
― 30 ch'lopping days left to umas (darraghmac), Sunday, 24 November 2013 23:01 (ten years ago) link
Or the laser...
― gyac, Sunday, 24 November 2013 23:06 (ten years ago) link
don't know if that's peculiar to the Irish so much as pub folk in general
― uk cheese board (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 24 November 2013 23:07 (ten years ago) link
maybe it's the prevalence of pub folk then......
― 30 ch'lopping days left to umas (darraghmac), Sunday, 24 November 2013 23:07 (ten years ago) link
well that wd follow, but that sudden knowledgeability about any sport no matter how obscure, you come across that on an afternoon round any bar where two or three regulars are gathered i think
― uk cheese board (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 24 November 2013 23:10 (ten years ago) link
nah scratch that, i mean a certain kind of pub and tbf there are more of that kind of pub over your way to the best of my knowledge
― uk cheese board (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 24 November 2013 23:11 (ten years ago) link
well we need to put all of our bar-room experts somewhere
― 30 ch'lopping days left to umas (darraghmac), Sunday, 24 November 2013 23:18 (ten years ago) link
blather and dhrink is still a big part of irish interest in whatever is on tv tho id say
betting is another factor to take into account too here
― subaltern 8 (Michael B), Monday, 25 November 2013 00:37 (ten years ago) link
which is part and parcel of dhrink i suppose
musha and tis
― 30 ch'lopping days left to umas (darraghmac), Monday, 25 November 2013 01:15 (ten years ago) link
http://www.vice.com/en_uk/read/why-isnt-ireland-doing-anything-about-its-heroin-problem
― Number None, Tuesday, 3 December 2013 16:27 (ten years ago) link
http://www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/twelve-pubs-of-christmas-is-a-booze-orgy-too-far-for-ireland-1.1628784?page=2
i went to college with the writer of this. it's just... bad on so many levels.
― Legitimate space tale (LocalGarda), Monday, 16 December 2013 14:50 (ten years ago) link
Fuck the irish times this past year
― Bigsam: flotsam and jetsam @ whetsam? (darraghmac), Monday, 16 December 2013 15:09 (ten years ago) link
Didnt see who it was til now. Appallingly moronic, or at best reaaonably talented clickbait generator. Near enough #1 symbol of decline in the paper imo.
― Bigsam: flotsam and jetsam @ whetsam? (darraghmac), Monday, 16 December 2013 17:44 (ten years ago) link
wait til you read her Beyonce liveblog!
― Number None, Monday, 16 December 2013 17:51 (ten years ago) link
Wait ti i dont hey
― Bigsam: flotsam and jetsam @ whetsam? (darraghmac), Monday, 16 December 2013 17:52 (ten years ago) link
The writing itself is just awful, like there are so many poorly constructed sentences. Beyond that, prob best not to use a word like hedonism when trying to highlight some new modern evil.
― Legitimate space tale (LocalGarda), Monday, 16 December 2013 18:45 (ten years ago) link
Ah, the renowned Irish Twitter personality.
Any of ye see London Irish? Worst thing to happen to us as a people since the Famine.
― gyac, Monday, 16 December 2013 22:22 (ten years ago) link
First ive heard of it and im already nervous
― Bigsam: flotsam and jetsam @ whetsam? (darraghmac), Monday, 16 December 2013 22:24 (ten years ago) link
LI was hilarious in its pointless shitness. Also hideous in its stereotyping, but hey.
― freemen (on the) space (seandalai), Tuesday, 17 December 2013 00:13 (ten years ago) link
Who knew there were so many trampolines in Ireland? Woke up with one embedded in the garden hedge, one took out the power on the DART this morning and they've apparently been causing chaos all over the country.
― Ramnaresh Samhain (ShariVari), Friday, 27 December 2013 14:43 (ten years ago) link
trampolines have definitely become a thing in the last five years or so
― Number None, Friday, 27 December 2013 14:54 (ten years ago) link
http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/chaos-for-city-of-culture-festival-as-three-quit-29882013.html
good oul limerick. always making the headlines for the wrong reasons. the NYE gig was an absolute shambles actually. everyone was shunted into the courthouse yard like cattle, could barely see the stage, gargantuan queues for the bars (and not enough of them) and they even fucked up the countdown! i had left a long time before that, after spending over 20 euro for a ticket. doesnt bode well for the city of culture.
― subaltern 8 (Michael B), Thursday, 2 January 2014 21:36 (ten years ago) link
i never heard irish in the aussie accent before but there's a guy talking about stars on dara o'briain programme atm and he's somewhere btwn meblourne and the ardoyne between coughs
― lj. 'hoover' egads (darraghmac), Thursday, 9 January 2014 20:23 (ten years ago) link
Darragh, I brought this up on Mordy's Aaliyah thread but I'll bring it up up, more oppositely, here; what was the deal with Ballyshannon? The partition deprived it of a rail connection to the Republic and then...?
― Le passé, non seulement n'est pas fugace, il reste sur place (Michael White), Thursday, 9 January 2014 20:33 (ten years ago) link
Aaliyah! A++
― Mordy , Thursday, 9 January 2014 20:34 (ten years ago) link
i dunno the deal with ballyshannon, unless you can narrow down the question! it was a regular border checkpoint for me is all, though we were driving from donegal to mayo (within the republic throughout, as far as i was ever aware)
― lj. 'hoover' egads (darraghmac), Thursday, 9 January 2014 20:36 (ten years ago) link
he could possibly be just a dickhead too
― subaltern 8 (Michael B), Thursday, 9 January 2014 20:52 (ten years ago) link
nah i think he's sound
he's a sight better than yon nerd just there
― lj. 'hoover' egads (darraghmac), Thursday, 9 January 2014 21:05 (ten years ago) link
im not watching it - a new stand up comedy show is it?
― subaltern 8 (Michael B), Thursday, 9 January 2014 21:09 (ten years ago) link
https://mobile.twitter.com/Independent_ie/status/422505703631118337/photo/1
this story has been getting stranger all day.
beaten to death over chess match, details make it reasonably clear we're dealing with lovers, then its around that he's a researcher for the fuckin IONA
now apparently its cannabalism
― is this semi-amateurism? (darraghmac), Sunday, 12 January 2014 23:59 (ten years ago) link
is there a reliable source for cannibalism claims
― Pedro Mba Obiang Avomo est un joueur de football hispano-ganéen (nakhchivan), Monday, 13 January 2014 01:00 (ten years ago) link
gonna interpret that as a burn on the indo
― Vote in the ILM EOY Poll! (seandalai), Monday, 13 January 2014 01:08 (ten years ago) link
Couple of different outlets carrying similar, differ btwn heart/lungs tbf
― is this semi-amateurism? (darraghmac), Monday, 13 January 2014 01:35 (ten years ago) link
so Una Mullally's going to be writing the entire paper in a few years I guesshttp://www.irishtimes.com/sport/soccer/humble-pie-on-the-menu-for-manchester-united-1.1652763
― Number None, Monday, 13 January 2014 14:39 (ten years ago) link
Shes welcome to IT, a pile of shite.
Podcasts are my new entertainment source at work.
― is this semi-amateurism? (darraghmac), Monday, 13 January 2014 14:53 (ten years ago) link
would read the indo before the times tbh
― everyday sheeple (Michael B), Monday, 13 January 2014 14:54 (ten years ago) link
oof
― Vote in the ILM EOY Poll! (seandalai), Monday, 13 January 2014 14:56 (ten years ago) link
Its getting closer but if thats a claim extending back longer than a year then no wai u mad etc
― is this semi-amateurism? (darraghmac), Monday, 13 January 2014 14:56 (ten years ago) link
im going by recent saturday editions of times and indo - times is much poorer in comparison
― everyday sheeple (Michael B), Monday, 13 January 2014 14:58 (ten years ago) link
Ive not found anything great lately. Back when i was going to actually use the BBS id get the business post (maybe thats under new running now too?) but i paid for an indo once in my life and not never again, the reaction i took against it was that strong.
Mar ya things are that bad that we get the sunday times now and try to make it last the week, an awful shtate of (current) affairs
― is this semi-amateurism? (darraghmac), Monday, 13 January 2014 15:51 (ten years ago) link
deeply amused (but not at all surprised) by Mr Flahavan being therehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YX08J6hnr3w
― gyac, Saturday, 18 January 2014 14:33 (ten years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Trl-Bi-WgZ8
― Number None, Thursday, 30 January 2014 03:15 (ten years ago) link
I was to bump this today but it'll wait
Whatm i missin in yon clip
― a horse divided cannot stand (darraghmac), Thursday, 30 January 2014 03:19 (ten years ago) link
just a slice of life you know
― Number None, Thursday, 30 January 2014 14:19 (ten years ago) link
Letterkenny is kickin off have ye ppl local and are they safe
― a horse divided cannot stand (darraghmac), Thursday, 30 January 2014 14:22 (ten years ago) link
one can never assume
― Number None, Thursday, 30 January 2014 14:48 (ten years ago) link
the irish
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmPFbD2BuUI
― a horse divided cannot stand (darraghmac), Wednesday, 5 February 2014 00:04 (ten years ago) link
*Passes driving test*
*Immediately begins to drive while precariously perching an iPhone on his clutch foot and glancing down at it every 5 seconds*
― 龜, Wednesday, 5 February 2014 00:55 (ten years ago) link
lol
we drive on the left?
― cyfytlapdbfr? (darraghmac), Wednesday, 5 February 2014 00:57 (ten years ago) link
I have no idea tbh and I actually can't begin to parse who's driving what in that video
My first thought tbh was dang, Robb Stark learned how to drive
― 龜, Wednesday, 5 February 2014 01:01 (ten years ago) link
i say it in the full and sure knowledge that he'll never read it, but meself and herself saw an awful lot of her aul fella in the reaction.
― cyfytlapdbfr? (darraghmac), Wednesday, 5 February 2014 01:02 (ten years ago) link
dont watch GOT but have had a pint with jack gleeson (i have luvvie theatre friends now i live in dublin doncheknow) and he's a grand fella
― cyfytlapdbfr? (darraghmac), Wednesday, 5 February 2014 01:04 (ten years ago) link
Punch him in the face for me
Actually he's one of my favs. I love how much people love to hate him
― 龜, Wednesday, 5 February 2014 01:07 (ten years ago) link
arah i couldnt punch the lad in the face, sure i hardly know him
― cyfytlapdbfr? (darraghmac), Wednesday, 5 February 2014 01:10 (ten years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbeiU6hKV28
mind yourself
― cyfytlapdbfr? (darraghmac), Friday, 7 February 2014 01:14 (ten years ago) link
http://www.breakingnews.ie/discover/they-said-theyd-never-seen-orange-hair-in-sierra-leone-622353.html
― selfie bans make dwight the yorke (darraghmac), Tuesday, 11 February 2014 16:08 (ten years ago) link
Spent the morning explaining the verbal tics 'mar ya', 'musha' and the lapse into the hard 'wh' at the start of a question that seem to ever more consistently pepper my dialogue the longer and further i live from the homestead. There's a thesis in when and why 'and' follows 'mar ya' but i haven't all avenues explored to my own satisfaction yet, suffice to note that the hibernian-irish grammatical particle has ways and means never bestowed upon it from the oppressor, back alley routes and sleights of hand conveyances that possibly were forced either in the pressurised melding of mothertongue to father or emerged out of a guerilla mentality up the hills of cavan to bushwhack tommy with his prepositional inflexibility
― politically autocorrect (darraghmac), Thursday, 20 February 2014 13:34 (ten years ago) link
hibernian autocorrect
― 龜, Thursday, 20 February 2014 14:01 (ten years ago) link
It is seachtain na gaeilge but i'll be damned if i write in again about them after the last time, i was checkin under the car for months
― politically autocorrect (darraghmac), Sunday, 2 March 2014 03:19 (ten years ago) link
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kesh,_County_Fermanagh#Slater.27s_Directory_1870
― Joyeux animaux de la misère (nakhchivan), Sunday, 2 March 2014 04:26 (ten years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fHD8QQXo_s
― CSI BONO (darraghmac), Monday, 3 March 2014 22:38 (ten years ago) link
Can we fight about the gaeilge
― CSI BONO (darraghmac), Thursday, 6 March 2014 11:05 (ten years ago) link
I actually had a question about The Irish last night.
If Ireland was under military threat, would the IRA or other 'dissident Republicans' come to the aid of their historic enemies, The Irish Army?
― the pinefox, Thursday, 6 March 2014 11:13 (ten years ago) link
in such a ridiculous hypothetical scenario, im sure it would be a case of bygones be bygones from all concerned
― everyday sheeple (Michael B), Thursday, 6 March 2014 11:17 (ten years ago) link
Oofidk, depends maybe on the identity of the threat?
Could see the idealist hardcore groups staying out of the fray as a strategic measure, with yr common garden local thug maybe inclined to join up to crack skulls legitimately
― CSI BONO (darraghmac), Thursday, 6 March 2014 11:19 (ten years ago) link
But, here, looksee now, i want to fight about the GAEILGE
― CSI BONO (darraghmac), Thursday, 6 March 2014 11:20 (ten years ago) link
cén fáth
― μ thant (seandalai), Thursday, 6 March 2014 11:28 (ten years ago) link
Seachtain na gaeilge agus na litiri in the fuckin t-amini iriseach
― CSI BONO (darraghmac), Thursday, 6 March 2014 11:41 (ten years ago) link
Because of its low content of tyramine, an organic compound thought to be associated with headaches,[3] it is frequently recommended as one of the few cheeses that is safe to eat for migraine sufferers.
― Brian Eno's Mother (Latham Green), Thursday, 6 March 2014 17:24 (ten years ago) link
Speaking of SnG, Facebook slapped a name change restriction on me after me switching to the Irish version the past few years. Who knew?!
― gyac, Thursday, 6 March 2014 17:54 (ten years ago) link
!
― CSI BONO (darraghmac), Thursday, 6 March 2014 18:08 (ten years ago) link
http://vimeo.com/86513352
― Thanks in anticipation of your opinions (nakhchivan), Saturday, 8 March 2014 19:55 (ten years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wL6aDrzs3Fs
― unw? j.......n (darraghmac), Wednesday, 12 March 2014 23:48 (ten years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5zZjfjAq9I
― unw? j.......n (darraghmac), Wednesday, 12 March 2014 23:53 (ten years ago) link
spiral
― unw? j.......n (darraghmac), Wednesday, 12 March 2014 23:54 (ten years ago) link
Dave Slater3 weeks ago It's like the brain of a 12-year old inside the body of a man.
― sent from my butt (harbl), Wednesday, 12 March 2014 23:57 (ten years ago) link
ah but seriously now this is what we are honestly not those other ruffians
2:21 onwards is dmac territory obv
― unw? j.......n (darraghmac), Thursday, 13 March 2014 01:46 (ten years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wmIZEl1nSo&list=PLqG_Qt4vmaV0KpH9rG-GeUZZi3fa3k8xS
'the first eurozone country to successfully exit an economic assistance programme' would be blackly funny in a remedial school spellling bee champion sort of way were it not for the shame of it
― fedora the implorer (nakhchivan), Thursday, 13 March 2014 01:55 (ten years ago) link
ya i mean they prob had to mention it to get the funding but ffs lads
― unw? j.......n (darraghmac), Thursday, 13 March 2014 02:09 (ten years ago) link
http://www.embassyofireland.co.uk/home/index.aspx?id=33718 so I'm trying to renew my passport here and like wtf...
Four passport photos, two of which is signed and stamped by the witness who should also enter the form number
Who can act as a witness?The person who witnesses your signature and confirms your identity must, without exception, be a member of one of the following professions and must not be related to you. Retired witnesses are not acceptable: Police Officer (not civilian member of staff)Member of the ClergyMedical DoctorPracticing LawyerBank Manager/Assistant Bank ManagerElected Public RepresentativeNotary Public/Commissioner for OathsMember of Parliament (MP) or County CouncillorSchool Principal/Vice PrincipalMagistrateAccountantThe witness must be resident in the United Kingdom
The person who witnesses your signature and confirms your identity must, without exception, be a member of one of the following professions and must not be related to you. Retired witnesses are not acceptable:
Police Officer (not civilian member of staff)Member of the ClergyMedical DoctorPracticing LawyerBank Manager/Assistant Bank ManagerElected Public RepresentativeNotary Public/Commissioner for OathsMember of Parliament (MP) or County CouncillorSchool Principal/Vice PrincipalMagistrateAccountant
The witness must be resident in the United Kingdom
Soooo....do you just turn up at a police station here like you do in the motherland or
― gyac, Tuesday, 25 March 2014 22:56 (ten years ago) link
ya
― treeship's assailing (darraghmac), Tuesday, 25 March 2014 22:57 (ten years ago) link
are you speaking from experience or will this get me in trouble for timewasting with the scary police I have not known since childhood
― gyac, Tuesday, 25 March 2014 23:02 (ten years ago) link
ime you turn up with another official doc
dont sign anything until you get there you'll need to do that in front of em
― treeship's assailing (darraghmac), Tuesday, 25 March 2014 23:05 (ten years ago) link
I got my college chaplain do do it. Never talked to him before or after.
― robocop ELF (seandalai), Wednesday, 26 March 2014 02:23 (ten years ago) link
shit i need to renew my passport, too
― gbx, Wednesday, 26 March 2014 23:03 (ten years ago) link
'Member of the clergy' FFS!
― hyggeligt, Sunday, 30 March 2014 06:58 (nine years ago) link
I'm really glad the consulate sent me this guide on how to take a good passport photo. Featuring some of the most Irish-looking faces I've ever seen!
http://i.imgur.com/4CbeIMK.jpg
― gyac, Tuesday, 1 April 2014 18:06 (nine years ago) link
Ya that girl was a crush of mine way back.
Yerman has to be from central mayo im sure ive seen him or his brothers at mart
― fauxpas cola (darraghmac), Tuesday, 1 April 2014 18:10 (nine years ago) link
what is the irish equivalent of 'bird' (colloq)?
― maxresdefault.jpg (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 1 April 2014 18:12 (nine years ago) link
he has a look of the loner behind the goals at an abandoned GAA ground about him alright
I could conceivably be related to 40% of these people
― gyac, Tuesday, 1 April 2014 18:12 (nine years ago) link
xp your one
― gyac, Tuesday, 1 April 2014 18:13 (nine years ago) link
Irish bird is v localised imo but beor is the cbar equiv, gurdle out rural, bird is common in dub, yerwan general, 'girl' not uncommon
― fauxpas cola (darraghmac), Tuesday, 1 April 2014 18:15 (nine years ago) link
beorused widely in limerick.origin - unknown.means "girl" or "girlfriend" similar to gangland phrase "bitch"mossy- " shes a fine beor"
― maxresdefault.jpg (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 1 April 2014 18:17 (nine years ago) link
I always thought beor was Limerick-centric, I didn't know it had spread that far north!
― gyac, Tuesday, 1 April 2014 18:18 (nine years ago) link
I've never even heard of beor!
― robocop ELF (seandalai), Tuesday, 1 April 2014 18:18 (nine years ago) link
Byur as pronounced.
Its used from cbar central to ballyheane but only on that vector, not newport or ballina side at all.
― fauxpas cola (darraghmac), Tuesday, 1 April 2014 18:21 (nine years ago) link
It's "doll" in Donegal
― Number None, Tuesday, 1 April 2014 18:22 (nine years ago) link
Shit i was tryn to remember but we moved when i was twelve so was only comin up with wain which is just 'child'
― fauxpas cola (darraghmac), Tuesday, 1 April 2014 18:23 (nine years ago) link
my line is black Irish - though me hair is rusty brilliant
― Brian Eno's Mother (Latham Green), Tuesday, 1 April 2014 18:23 (nine years ago) link
speaking of Donegal, I'll never forget the fucking revelation I had living with a girl from up there and learning ye call these "go-gos"http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_6O0ULRLPdfs/TKzXy1J_wiI/AAAAAAAAFqM/d2o-hBb_q7A/s1600/hair+tie+cliip.JPG
― gyac, Tuesday, 1 April 2014 18:25 (nine years ago) link
The way they pronounce abhainn was what got me
― fauxpas cola (darraghmac), Tuesday, 1 April 2014 18:28 (nine years ago) link
ha yeah the moment on the Irish oral tape when you heard someone talk and it was Uladh Gaeilge...my God
― gyac, Tuesday, 1 April 2014 18:29 (nine years ago) link
First day of second class, and me up from gaeltacht acla, useless as fuck with a mouthful of nails
― fauxpas cola (darraghmac), Tuesday, 1 April 2014 18:31 (nine years ago) link
on an unrelated note, my sister has just sent me the quintessential Irish-person-after-a-bit-of-sun line "I'm fine it will be grand tomorrow"
― gyac, Tuesday, 1 April 2014 18:41 (nine years ago) link
xpost isnt "beor" a traveller Cant word originally?
― everyday sheeple (Michael B), Tuesday, 1 April 2014 18:42 (nine years ago) link
Might be, might be
― fauxpas cola (darraghmac), Tuesday, 1 April 2014 18:44 (nine years ago) link
and if theyre really good looking its "haunty beor"
― everyday sheeple (Michael B), Tuesday, 1 April 2014 18:46 (nine years ago) link
In cbar she'd be a feen
― fauxpas cola (darraghmac), Tuesday, 1 April 2014 18:49 (nine years ago) link
do we not acknowledge "wetsers" or
― gyac, Tuesday, 1 April 2014 18:54 (nine years ago) link
no idea, do tell
― fauxpas cola (darraghmac), Tuesday, 1 April 2014 19:39 (nine years ago) link
http://www.irishexaminer.com/archives/2014/0402/ireland/gay-penguins-make-perfect-match-263998.html
― gyac, Thursday, 3 April 2014 14:08 (nine years ago) link
Has anyone been following the "make up" irish times letters
― recommend me a new bagman (darraghmac), Thursday, 3 April 2014 14:16 (nine years ago) link
no...?
― gyac, Thursday, 3 April 2014 14:17 (nine years ago) link
do tell
― robocop ELF (seandalai), Thursday, 3 April 2014 14:46 (nine years ago) link
Ok gimme a sec. more than a hint of the flann o'brian letters fiascos about em
― recommend me a new bagman (darraghmac), Thursday, 3 April 2014 15:08 (nine years ago) link
Sir, – Perhaps not many of your readers are great users of public transport. Let me therefore point out a rather disconcerting phenomenon now frequently observed on Dublin buses, namely the application of make-up (by ladies). We hear much of health and safety. Is there not a danger that an errant mascara wand could deliver a nasty poke in the eye were a bus to brake suddenly. Then there’s the question of propriety. What next? Nail clipping on the 15B? A little light depilation on the 46A. — Yours, etc,FRANK BYRNE,
― recommend me a new bagman (darraghmac), Thursday, 3 April 2014 15:09 (nine years ago) link
Sir, – I couldn’t agree more with Frank Byrne (Letters, April 1st) regarding women applying make-up on the bus. I had the misfortune recently to be seated beside a young lady who had the audacity to embellish her eyelashes with mascara while I was eating a box of chips and chicken nuggets. Mascara doesn’t go too well with salt and vinegar, or indeed sweet and sour sauce! There was a time when such behaviour wouldn’t have been tolerated. Yours, etc,PAUL DELANEY,
― recommend me a new bagman (darraghmac), Thursday, 3 April 2014 15:10 (nine years ago) link
Sir, – I strongly disagree with Frank Byrne’s views (Letters, April 1st) on the practice of women applying their makeup on public transport.The application of makeup is an intimate and private moment for women in which they construct their daily mask. The public application of makeup is fascinating, and very modern. To watch a woman apply makeup is profoundly erotic (in the post-Freudian sense).To suffer these small darts of Eros at a time of day when one is moving into the profoundly mundane space of most white collar work is a privilege. Yours, etc,LEON SHARKEY,
jumped the sharkey obv
if paul delaney isnt ronan he's not far off him
obv michael white for #3
have we a candidate ilxor for #1?
irrationally angry thread a good place to start id say
― recommend me a new bagman (darraghmac), Thursday, 3 April 2014 15:11 (nine years ago) link
holy jaysus Eamon Coghlan as Davy Jones on the Late Late
― Number None, Friday, 18 April 2014 20:55 (nine years ago) link
looking at Aiden Gillen's wikipedia page and saw this
2014 Citizen Charlie Charles J, Haughey Miniseries, pre-production
also features Risteard Cooper in an uncredited role.
― gyac, Wednesday, 23 April 2014 18:21 (nine years ago) link
yeah Nidge is playing PJ Mara. Christ knows what kind of accent Aido will be attempting for this one
― Number None, Wednesday, 23 April 2014 18:27 (nine years ago) link
http://www1.evoke.ie/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/tom-vaughn-lawlor-pj-mara.jpg
― Number None, Wednesday, 23 April 2014 18:29 (nine years ago) link
this is actually going to be amazing
http://cdn3.independent.ie/opinion/analysis/article29673070.ece/3e56c/ALTERNATES/h342/NWS_20131019_OPI_014_29325131_I1.JPG
I know mary harney well
― james lipton and his francs (darraghmac), Wednesday, 23 April 2014 18:30 (nine years ago) link
please let them stream this live on RTE player worldwide like they do with the Toy Show!
I just pictured him talking to "Maaaaaara" in his Littlefinger accent and lost it.
― gyac, Wednesday, 23 April 2014 18:46 (nine years ago) link
amazinghttp://img.rasset.ie/0008d6c9-642.jpg
The United Kingdom Independence Party has rejected as "nonsense" criticism of the party using an Irish actor in a poster about the impact of immigration on British jobs.The poster was published last week as the party launched its campaign ahead of elections on 22 May.It features a builder in hi-viz vest and a hard hat begging on the street next to the slogans "EU policy at work" and "British workers are hit hard by unlimited cheap labour".But it has emerged the man featured on the poster is Irish actor Dave O'Rourke, prompting Conservative MP Bob Neill to criticise the party.
The poster was published last week as the party launched its campaign ahead of elections on 22 May.
It features a builder in hi-viz vest and a hard hat begging on the street next to the slogans "EU policy at work" and "British workers are hit hard by unlimited cheap labour".
But it has emerged the man featured on the poster is Irish actor Dave O'Rourke, prompting Conservative MP Bob Neill to criticise the party.
― gyac, Friday, 25 April 2014 14:03 (nine years ago) link
"British actors are hit hard by unlimited cheap luvvies".
― A frenzied geologist (Tom D.), Friday, 25 April 2014 14:43 (nine years ago) link
a friend put this up on his FB of an independent Offaly candidate in the '11 election
http://irishelectionliterature.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/jbracken11a.jpg
― everyday sheeple (Michael B), Friday, 25 April 2014 15:15 (nine years ago) link
standard
― gyac, Friday, 25 April 2014 15:37 (nine years ago) link
Theres a fella up on posters here i'll report back as and when
― james lipton and his francs (darraghmac), Friday, 25 April 2014 15:40 (nine years ago) link
crazy teddy woman remains the gold standard for Irish election posters
― popchips: the next snapple? (seandalai), Saturday, 26 April 2014 00:20 (nine years ago) link
― popchips: the next snapple? (seandalai), Saturday, April 26, 2014 1:20 AM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Link?
― mirostones, Saturday, 26 April 2014 05:16 (nine years ago) link
https://farm1.staticflickr.com/237/522242086_6db4c7e333_b_d.jpg
― popchips: the next snapple? (seandalai), Saturday, 26 April 2014 12:23 (nine years ago) link
no way is she a child
― you poll a lot, but you're not saying anything (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 26 April 2014 12:52 (nine years ago) link
I am not disappointed.
― mirostones, Saturday, 26 April 2014 12:59 (nine years ago) link
omg
― ۩, Saturday, 26 April 2014 16:48 (nine years ago) link
https://scontent-b-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/t1.0-9/1907977_289059031260493_8433660874202538089_n.jpg
― james lipton and his francs (darraghmac), Saturday, 26 April 2014 17:00 (nine years ago) link
i am currently reading a fb thread slagging this guy and his everythings that he happened across it is something
― james lipton and his francs (darraghmac), Saturday, 26 April 2014 17:01 (nine years ago) link
at least he put a tie on for his picture, sort of
― you poll a lot, but you're not saying anything (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 26 April 2014 19:49 (nine years ago) link
i'd be the first one to decry shallow image-based politics but if you knew you was having a photo took that was gonna be turned into big posters that wd be asking people to vote for you who didn't know you then surely
― you poll a lot, but you're not saying anything (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 26 April 2014 19:50 (nine years ago) link
if he spruced himself up a bit he could have a Paul Dano thing going on
― everyday sheeple (Michael B), Saturday, 26 April 2014 20:01 (nine years ago) link
reminds me more of Catherine Tate tbh
― you poll a lot, but you're not saying anything (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 26 April 2014 20:04 (nine years ago) link
lolll
― avinit garde (wins), Saturday, 26 April 2014 20:10 (nine years ago) link
???
Linda Ervine's soft voice and gentle manner bely a formidable passion for the Irish language - and for why Northern Ireland's Protestant community should take it up."There is every reason why Protestants should be learning Irish," she said. "Ninety-five percent of our place names come from Gaelic… We are using words in our language every day that come from the Gaelic language. We are steeped in it."
"There is every reason why Protestants should be learning Irish," she said. "Ninety-five percent of our place names come from Gaelic… We are using words in our language every day that come from the Gaelic language. We are steeped in it."
― gyac, Sunday, 27 April 2014 10:11 (nine years ago) link
compelling case
― james lipton and his francs (darraghmac), Sunday, 27 April 2014 12:42 (nine years ago) link
ulster-scots: webee steeppit unnit
― james lipton and his francs (darraghmac), Sunday, 27 April 2014 12:43 (nine years ago) link
Soooo....do you just turn up at a police station here like you do in the motherland or― gyac, Tuesday, 25 March 2014 22:56 (1 month ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― gyac, Tuesday, 25 March 2014 22:56 (1 month ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
It turns out you do not. Fuckers!
― gyac, Friday, 2 May 2014 14:27 (nine years ago) link
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BnIOmxrCAAAP8Fq.png
― gyac, Thursday, 8 May 2014 17:06 (nine years ago) link
Haaa
― james lipton and his francs (darraghmac), Thursday, 8 May 2014 17:11 (nine years ago) link
old photographer from down home has started uploadinghis pics to fb if there's scope for a 'real ireland' thread idk
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/818963/darts.jpg
― james lipton and his francs (darraghmac), Monday, 12 May 2014 21:40 (nine years ago) link
― james lipton and his francs (darraghmac), Monday, 12 May 2014 21:42 (nine years ago) link
soz
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/818963/weaving.jpg
ah god i'll be here all night
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/818963/strawboy.jpg
― james lipton and his francs (darraghmac), Monday, 12 May 2014 21:52 (nine years ago) link
3rd world force field
― Hastings Banter (Noodle Vague), Monday, 12 May 2014 21:54 (nine years ago) link
idgi but im assumin you refer to yon strawboys
― james lipton and his francs (darraghmac), Monday, 12 May 2014 22:02 (nine years ago) link
they appeared at a local wedding i dragged ms mac to a couple years back, it was up the coast a bit and wild enough of a spot and she was lairy enough of the locals as it was (she was not helping herself with her mary poppins vocal delivery and mannerisms, quite frankly) and when these yahoos in what she (understandably? idk, they're just strawboys to me like) took to be wicker klan outfits jumped out of the back room and rushed the band she was scrambling for the exits ah good times
she has told me a million times and more that we will never settle anywhere near the island ;_;
― james lipton and his francs (darraghmac), Monday, 12 May 2014 22:05 (nine years ago) link
3rd world forcefield
that thread ^
them creels or whatever are amazing
― Hastings Banter (Noodle Vague), Monday, 12 May 2014 22:19 (nine years ago) link
ok now i've looked up strawboys wow
― Hastings Banter (Noodle Vague), Monday, 12 May 2014 22:21 (nine years ago) link
there's no website does them justice, all bets are off ime
― james lipton and his francs (darraghmac), Monday, 12 May 2014 22:23 (nine years ago) link
i grew up next door this
http://www.bookapartmentsinlondon.co.uk/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/Abbots-Bromley-Horn-Dance.jpg
but it's not in the same league tbh
― Hastings Banter (Noodle Vague), Monday, 12 May 2014 22:25 (nine years ago) link
it's a bit murky but the origin i always believed is uninvited neighbouring lads after a bit of grub/drink/fighting/dancing crashed in disguise and it spiralled from there into something that terrifies visitors, which imo is the best type of tradition
― james lipton and his francs (darraghmac), Monday, 12 May 2014 22:25 (nine years ago) link
i'd say that story is an excuse after the fact cos that headgear looks v ancient and evil to me
― Hastings Banter (Noodle Vague), Monday, 12 May 2014 22:26 (nine years ago) link
ah yeah i'd say they had the hats lying around from rituals beyond speaking like, but the crashing the wedding thing was separate
my aunt danced with one up beyond the horseshoe bridge one night and when he took the hat off it was the devil himself she says, and she swears left hoofprints on the rocks that are there yet as he ran away from her (she never said what it was made him take off in the interim but i know the woman with years and can offer a few suggestions and when we said (round eyed, cos the devil was the only man that could friken you when you were seven out wesht, him and the banshee from darby o'gill) could we go and see the rocks and the prints she snorted and said 'the rocks will be long gone you eejits but i know for a fact the prints are still on them' this is the kind of rearing we got
years later we got our own back when we slipped an unsuspecting cousin the wrong lotto results and sent him up to the kitchen (we were never let near the kitchen) with what we knew to be her numbers and i know for a fact her handprints are still on my arse
― james lipton and his francs (darraghmac), Monday, 12 May 2014 22:33 (nine years ago) link
http://thumbsupdevice.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/thumbs-up-icon-blue-reallytiny_border.png
― Hastings Banter (Noodle Vague), Monday, 12 May 2014 22:36 (nine years ago) link
I think a thread of 'post pictures of your local sports teams' (focusing on things like darts and bowls and dominoes etc.) would be entertaining.
― Try Leuchars More! (dowd), Monday, 12 May 2014 22:43 (nine years ago) link
ah yeah i'd say they had the hats lying around from rituals beyond speaking like, but the crashing the wedding thing was separatemy aunt danced with one up beyond the horseshoe bridge one night and when he took the hat off it was the devil himself she says, and she swears left hoofprints on the rocks that are there yet as he ran away from her (she never said what it was made him take off in the interim but i know the woman with years and can offer a few suggestions and when we said (round eyed, cos the devil was the only man that could friken you when you were seven out wesht, him and the banshee from darby o'gill) could we go and see the rocks and the prints she snorted and said 'the rocks will be long gone you eejits but i know for a fact the prints are still on them' this is the kind of rearing we gotyears later we got our own back when we slipped an unsuspecting cousin the wrong lotto results and sent him up to the kitchen (we were never let near the kitchen) with what we knew to be her numbers and i know for a fact her handprints are still on my arse
― gbx, Tuesday, 13 May 2014 02:20 (nine years ago) link
You know it man
― james lipton and his francs (darraghmac), Tuesday, 13 May 2014 06:11 (nine years ago) link
I'd never seen/heard of strawboys before, they're terrifying looking altogether. Are they just a thing in the west?!
― gyac, Tuesday, 13 May 2014 11:38 (nine years ago) link
It seems they don't go any further north than Sligo thank god
― Number None, Tuesday, 13 May 2014 11:39 (nine years ago) link
Well who does, given an option
― james lipton and his francs (darraghmac), Tuesday, 13 May 2014 11:43 (nine years ago) link
The ones at the wedding mentioned above wore rubber Halloween masks as well. Striking effect.
― james lipton and his francs (darraghmac), Tuesday, 13 May 2014 11:44 (nine years ago) link
other half wants these monstrosities at our wedding now, thanks darraghmac!
― gyac, Tuesday, 13 May 2014 11:51 (nine years ago) link
Rah
Srsly tho don't its just a paid break for the band and they ate all the sangidges PS grats
― james lipton and his francs (darraghmac), Tuesday, 13 May 2014 11:53 (nine years ago) link
saw them at a wedding in Clare last summer
― everyday sheeple (Michael B), Tuesday, 13 May 2014 14:16 (nine years ago) link
xp thanks!
was watching a thing called Coast on iPlayer, they were supposed to travel up the west coast from Galway to Arranmore. was quite disappointing - Achill got maybe 30 seconds of airtime while there was a whole segment on Morse code with the guy from Scrapheap Challenge that was incredibly dull.
― gyac, Tuesday, 13 May 2014 22:36 (nine years ago) link
Is there any reason stars of the calibre of Kanye West and the late Michael Jackson flock to Tullamore in particular?
http://www.irishmirror.ie/showbiz/irish-showbiz/pictured-kim-kardashian-kanye-west-3619950
― Yuri Bashment (ShariVari), Thursday, 29 May 2014 15:00 (nine years ago) link
Because having been there on multiple occasions, i'm struggling to come up with one.
― Yuri Bashment (ShariVari), Thursday, 29 May 2014 15:01 (nine years ago) link
ground hurling
― gyac, Thursday, 29 May 2014 15:02 (nine years ago) link
wristy hurling
the Fleadh
carvery lunch at the Bridge House
― Number None, Thursday, 29 May 2014 15:08 (nine years ago) link
Tullamore was designated a 'gateway' town in late 2003 by the Irish Government, making it eligible for increased infrastructural investment. The town was bestowed a bronze medal in the government's National Tidy Towns Competition in 2004 and also played host to the 'World Sheep Dog Trials' in 2005 which attracted international interest in the region. The Tullamore Show is held near the town every year.
― popchips: the next snapple? (seandalai), Thursday, 29 May 2014 15:08 (nine years ago) link
Tullamore *and* Portlaoise in one day!
Kim Kardashian and Kanye West continue to enjoy all that Ireland has to offer on their honeymoon making a second trip to a different midlands cinema in the one day.The pair were first spotted in Portlaoise before making a 30 mile trip north to Tullamore, Co Ofally.They are believed to have watched 'X-Men: Days of future' past costing them €6 each as it was a bargain price on a Wednesday in Co Laois.
The pair were first spotted in Portlaoise before making a 30 mile trip north to Tullamore, Co Ofally.
They are believed to have watched 'X-Men: Days of future' past costing them €6 each as it was a bargain price on a Wednesday in Co Laois.
― popchips: the next snapple? (seandalai), Thursday, 29 May 2014 15:12 (nine years ago) link
the flah accents
the proximity to Kilbeggan races
― gyac, Thursday, 29 May 2014 15:14 (nine years ago) link
Home of the internationally famous Tullamore Dew, i suppose.
Can't knock the €5 lunch at Cafe India.
― Yuri Bashment (ShariVari), Thursday, 29 May 2014 15:16 (nine years ago) link
Co Ofally
― gyac, Thursday, 29 May 2014 15:16 (nine years ago) link
the gardens at the castle
― dn/ac (darraghmac), Thursday, 29 May 2014 17:21 (nine years ago) link
May have sunk the profits from The College Dropout into an off-plan development round the back of Tesco, like Shane Filan, and is checking to see if it's more than 45% finished yet.
― Wristy Hurlington (ShariVari), Thursday, 29 May 2014 17:26 (nine years ago) link
developer spent on a
gold digger
― dn/ac (darraghmac), Thursday, 29 May 2014 17:35 (nine years ago) link
tough crowd
― dn/ac (darraghmac), Thursday, 29 May 2014 23:05 (nine years ago) link
I appreciated it quietly, if that helps.
― Wristy Hurlington (ShariVari), Thursday, 29 May 2014 23:07 (nine years ago) link
this our way I spose
― dn/ac (darraghmac), Thursday, 29 May 2014 23:09 (nine years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bQCW1nOaYc
― gyac, Tuesday, 17 June 2014 23:04 (nine years ago) link
http://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/ireland-is-the-best-country-in-the-world-new-survey-suggests-1.1843347
I didn't see where we ranked on internet activism tbh
― leave the web boys alone (darraghmac), Tuesday, 24 June 2014 10:23 (nine years ago) link
mind you there's always one cunt ruins it for everyone
http://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/irish-man-dies-on-german-motorway-after-stabbing-incidents-1.1844000
― leave the web boys alone (darraghmac), Tuesday, 24 June 2014 21:09 (nine years ago) link
Fun fun fun on the autobahn...
― hyggeligt, Thursday, 26 June 2014 08:00 (nine years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/fnoqGfx.png
― 龜, Wednesday, 2 July 2014 17:10 (nine years ago) link
what
― cpt navajo (darraghmac), Wednesday, 2 July 2014 17:14 (nine years ago) link
U.F. O'Day
― everyday sheeple (Michael B), Wednesday, 2 July 2014 17:44 (nine years ago) link
that's a bit of a stretcheálta
― dem bow dem bow need calcium (seandalai), Wednesday, 2 July 2014 19:05 (nine years ago) link
In a statement issued tonight Garth Brooks has stated that "it is five shows or none at all"
hopefully Enda will get back from opening Penneys in Berlin to weigh in on this.
― gyac, Thursday, 3 July 2014 21:23 (nine years ago) link
not even kerry managed five in a row at croker tbf
― cpt navajo (darraghmac), Thursday, 3 July 2014 21:27 (nine years ago) link
There'll be five. Too much already invested by fans etc. Hotels won't do full refunds nor will the rail or bus.
― hyggeligt, Thursday, 3 July 2014 22:26 (nine years ago) link
yeah id imagine that a huge fuckin donation to the community and an absolute assurance by the crokers and the promoters that they've learnt their lesson and won't overbook again will do the trick here.
standard strike tactics, tbrr
― cpt navajo (darraghmac), Thursday, 3 July 2014 22:32 (nine years ago) link
I blame One Direction.
― hyggeligt, Thursday, 3 July 2014 22:45 (nine years ago) link
John Paul O’Driscoll was guilty of “phenomenally dangerous driving” observed Judge Sean Ó Donnabháin as he imposed two consecutive terms totalling 12 years on O’Driscoll.Judge Ó Donnabháin had been willing to suspend the final two years of theterm but he rescinded it when O’ Driscoll shouted at him from the dock thathe could “f*** off”.
― cpt navajo (darraghmac), Thursday, 3 July 2014 23:38 (nine years ago) link
excellent stuff from the Metro
http://cf.broadsheet.ie/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/001-DUB-0407.jpg
― Number None, Friday, 4 July 2014 01:09 (nine years ago) link
How old are we that we got it though? Not a cult film really.
Turns out Irish Rail will give refunds. Fair play in fairness.
― hyggeligt, Friday, 4 July 2014 08:54 (nine years ago) link
in fairness you have to have fair play tbf
― cpt navajo (darraghmac), Friday, 4 July 2014 09:17 (nine years ago) link
I never thought I'd feel sorry for Garth Brooks fans but this is some bullshit altogether
― everyday sheeple (Michael B), Friday, 4 July 2014 11:04 (nine years ago) link
Seriously though, this all Niall from one directions doing. He knew Westmeath would never get into Croker so out of spite...
In other news: Wexford is quite a nice part of the country which I feel slightly embarrassed at only realising now.
― hyggeligt, Friday, 4 July 2014 23:12 (nine years ago) link
The case was also noteworthy for having a psychiatrist admit under oath that his definition of the word 'sociopath' (a term which he had used to describe Joanne Hayes in his testimony)[7][8] would apply to about half the population of the country.[citation needed]
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kerry_Babies_Tribunal
― cpt navajo (darraghmac), Saturday, 5 July 2014 08:41 (nine years ago) link
all five concerts cancelled
quality choice from the IT picture desk therehttp://www.irishtimes.com/polopoly_fs/1.1859350.1404831773!/image/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/box_620_330/image.jpg
― gyac, Tuesday, 8 July 2014 15:15 (nine years ago) link
Irish Times going all-out on that storyhttp://i.imgur.com/Khy3BP5.png
― dem bow dem bow need calcium (seandalai), Tuesday, 8 July 2014 15:20 (nine years ago) link
more votes lost than the bank guarantee imo
― cpt navajo (darraghmac), Tuesday, 8 July 2014 15:27 (nine years ago) link
Everyone's been an asshole in this sorry mess
― everyday sheeple (Michael B), Tuesday, 8 July 2014 15:29 (nine years ago) link
lol Sinn Fein:http://www.derrysinnfein.ie/sf-councillors-call-on-city-manager-to-overturn-garth-brooks-concert-decision/
― dem bow dem bow need calcium (seandalai), Tuesday, 8 July 2014 15:31 (nine years ago) link
yah everyone looks a total prick here but tbh the council is on steadier ground in backing the legit complaints than Aiken or brooks are in their tantrums over it. the council insisting it was a final decision was naive and stupid tho imo
― cpt navajo (darraghmac), Tuesday, 8 July 2014 15:33 (nine years ago) link
Why can't they sort out licensing for events months in advance rather than weeks?
― dem bow dem bow need calcium (seandalai), Tuesday, 8 July 2014 15:48 (nine years ago) link
JIT
― cpt navajo (darraghmac), Tuesday, 8 July 2014 16:00 (nine years ago) link
New gig announcements tomorrow, surely
― everyday sheeple (Michael B), Tuesday, 8 July 2014 16:03 (nine years ago) link
Chris Gaines to play 168 night residency at Kavanagh's Bar, Portlaoise.
― Wristy Hurlington (ShariVari), Tuesday, 8 July 2014 16:21 (nine years ago) link
portlaoise is his gaine
― cpt navajo (darraghmac), Tuesday, 8 July 2014 16:22 (nine years ago) link
I continue to hold 1D entirely responsible.
Lord mayor was on Drivetime. Utterly embarrassing. Basically this is the saddest day ever but he's available 24/7 to help all parties.
So sick of these gigs.
― hyggeligt, Tuesday, 8 July 2014 22:35 (nine years ago) link
I can't believe there are 400,000 fans of "Friends in Low Places" in Ireland.
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Tuesday, 8 July 2014 22:41 (nine years ago) link
I understand it was the promise of a full Chris Gaines set list. We love a bit of the dark here.
― hyggeligt, Tuesday, 8 July 2014 22:43 (nine years ago) link
They are just the ones who could get tickets.
― Wristy Hurlington (ShariVari), Tuesday, 8 July 2014 22:44 (nine years ago) link
Earlier today, Dublin Lord Mayor Christy Burke revealed that the Mexican Ambassador had offered to mediate in the ‘will he, won’t he’ saga over whether the country music star will play five nights at Croke Park.Mr Burke also said a group of residents from Ballybough in Dublin told him they intend to call on US President Barack Obama to try to encourage Mr Brooks to play in the capital.advertisementBut when contacted by Independent.ie this afternoon, White House spokeswoman Caitlin Hayden confirmed that the President will not be intervening
Mr Burke also said a group of residents from Ballybough in Dublin told him they intend to call on US President Barack Obama to try to encourage Mr Brooks to play in the capital.advertisement
But when contacted by Independent.ie this afternoon, White House spokeswoman Caitlin Hayden confirmed that the President will not be intervening
― dem bow dem bow need calcium (seandalai), Thursday, 10 July 2014 15:35 (nine years ago) link
Ireland isn't embarrassed but every cunt involved there, including those reporting it, would want to be
― cpt navajo (darraghmac), Thursday, 10 July 2014 16:29 (nine years ago) link
https://www.dropbox.com/s/txe2o4po30wxnfs/IMG_45980078418532.jpeg
― cpt navajo (darraghmac), Thursday, 10 July 2014 22:26 (nine years ago) link
so like are there any books/films you would recommend for understanding the troubles / recent history? i have Opinions but i'd feel better if they weren't entirely based on the sentiments of a couple old guys i know
― gbx, Thursday, 24 July 2014 02:24 (nine years ago) link
how recent or far dyou want to go?
― your favourite misread ILX threads (darraghmac), Thursday, 24 July 2014 05:54 (nine years ago) link
civil war on, i guess
― gbx, Thursday, 24 July 2014 11:02 (nine years ago) link
The Green Flag by Robert Kee might be somewhere to start. Have only dipped into it but it's very comprehensive.
― Wristy Hurlington (ShariVari), Thursday, 24 July 2014 13:25 (nine years ago) link
purchased, ty
― gbx, Thursday, 24 July 2014 15:05 (nine years ago) link
obligatory Tim pat coogan, I've read collins but I'm told devalera is maybe better. I'll ask my better informed peers tho.
― your favourite misread ILX threads (darraghmac), Thursday, 24 July 2014 15:23 (nine years ago) link
id recommend Tim Pat Coogan's IRA book. its well detailed and comprehensive.
― everyday sheeple (Michael B), Thursday, 24 July 2014 16:22 (nine years ago) link
Richard English's Armed Struggle is another good history of the IRA that'll make a lot of the background clear. Very readable, and felt fairly balanced.
― woof, Thursday, 24 July 2014 17:45 (nine years ago) link
Just this minute had a phone call with Armagh relatives where I told them I was getting married next July.
"July the 12th. Haha no I'm just joking god bless you".
YES SHE IS ENGLISH OK.
Like me and all your children and grandchildren.
Excuse my language. They wind me up.
― woof, Thursday, 24 July 2014 17:51 (nine years ago) link
I mean that's not even a Saturday.
― woof, Thursday, 24 July 2014 17:52 (nine years ago) link
wtf even asks is she English these days
prod, yes,obv you ask. English? nah
grats
― your favourite misread ILX threads (darraghmac), Thursday, 24 July 2014 18:10 (nine years ago) link
to paraphrase sean connery in the untouchables - never bring a hammer to a spade fight
http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/man-armed-with-hammer-tries-to-rob-from-chip-shop-until-staff-hit-back-with-a-spade-30495868.html
― everyday sheeple (Michael B), Sunday, 10 August 2014 11:42 (nine years ago) link
If anyone's around Howth and at a loose end I can't recommend the Ireland's Eye ferry trips enough.
Howth is very, very strange. It feels like there are all these special roads that locals know but don't tell anyone else about. I can't figure out how they get to their snazzy cliffside gaffs otherwise.
― hyggeligt, Sunday, 7 September 2014 21:38 (nine years ago) link
http://www.takepart.com/video/2014/09/27/watch-irish-people-taste-american-junk-food-first-time
― how's life, Tuesday, 30 September 2014 10:58 (nine years ago) link
^been inundating my fb feed for the last 24 hours.
― how's life, Tuesday, 30 September 2014 11:00 (nine years ago) link
my client does not hire Irish people due to the alcoholism nature of your kind
― R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Thursday, 6 November 2014 18:10 (nine years ago) link
this thread should really be closed temporarily until the irish has returned from sabbatical
― the final twilight of all evaluative standpoints (nakhchivan), Thursday, 6 November 2014 21:27 (nine years ago) link
― mattresslessness, Thursday, 6 November 2014 21:29 (nine years ago) link
finally reading "how the irish became white." it's a little less accessible than i had hoped and is one of those books where the 30-second summary is just as necessary as the whole thing.
― een, Thursday, 6 November 2014 21:37 (nine years ago) link
didn't know the privilege as a meme thread had been published
― the final twilight of all evaluative standpoints (nakhchivan), Thursday, 6 November 2014 21:39 (nine years ago) link
I'm sceptical about the stats but there was a survey earlier in the year that suggested Koreans drink twice as much hard alcohol as any other nation on earth. Irish aren't close.
― Wristy Hurlington (ShariVari), Thursday, 6 November 2014 23:18 (nine years ago) link
The excellent website of Dublin life and lore Come Here To Me! embarks on a discussion of that now vanished phenomenon “the Rathmines accent”, prompted by the (not, it must be said, enormously well vouched) idea that Vladimir Ilyich Lenin was taught English by an Irishman - in fact a native of Leinster Road in Rathmines.
The phrase seems to have been a simple shorthand term for posh or Anglified speech, which then as now tends to rub many ordinary citizens up the wrong way. Still, the accent had its uses, it seems: in 1942 “a married woman” and “a married man” (not married to each other, one assumes) were able to gain admission illicitly to one of Mr Paddy Belton’s licensed premises by saying they were from Rathmines. They were, in fact, from Santry and were fined 5/- each for the imposture at Kilmainham District Court.
Dublin Review of Books
+ Lenin
― Fizzles, Monday, 10 November 2014 18:27 (nine years ago) link
Come Here To Me is brilliant. Their book is a great read.
Is Rathmines still all that posh? I suppose it must be really.
― hyggeligt, Monday, 10 November 2014 20:11 (nine years ago) link
was mostly student housing rentals that were owned by pretty well-off ppl, no? though obvs rathgaaaaaar has it well beaten in the posh department.
― gyac, Monday, 10 November 2014 20:13 (nine years ago) link
also, I feel that the accent described upthread still proliferates in Foxrock.
― gyac, Monday, 10 November 2014 20:15 (nine years ago) link
Dartry was always very posh. I think anything above the fancy butchers in Upper Rathmines Road is posh Rathmines.
Fair point about Rathgar though.
Accent is pure southside ("SoCoDu" iirc) - not just Foxrock. Present wherever there is a speech and drama class and the postcodes are even...
― hyggeligt, Monday, 10 November 2014 20:19 (nine years ago) link
I associate with Foxrock because I recall living in SoCoDu for a few years, including Blackrock for a bit, and interviewing for a job as a student at this palace in Foxrock. The woman had THE poshest accent I'd ever heard, when I innocently asked where she was from, she fixed me with a glare and spat "here".
― gyac, Monday, 10 November 2014 20:33 (nine years ago) link
Palace not the most incorrect typo perhaps?
It is very posh, true.
Greystones has become ridiculously posh. Ditto Malahide. It's like to create posh Dubs, just add water (and a marina).
― hyggeligt, Monday, 10 November 2014 20:38 (nine years ago) link
Greystones has always been half posh half Wicklow
― legit new threat wrt to a norman invasion (seandalai), Monday, 10 November 2014 20:47 (nine years ago) link
Props to Bray for keeping it real.
― hyggeligt, Monday, 10 November 2014 21:02 (nine years ago) link
not a typo at all, I needed to pack a lunch just to trek up the ten mile drive
― gyac, Monday, 10 November 2014 21:25 (nine years ago) link
Fair enough. Decent of her not to set hounds on you for cheeky question re. origins.
One of the oddest place in Dublin is Rathfarnham. Should be posh but feels like a weird halfway house to absolutely nowhere. Even Marlay Park feels weirdly peripheral. Like Tymon Park but older obviously.
― hyggeligt, Monday, 10 November 2014 22:32 (nine years ago) link
*places
― hyggeligt, Monday, 10 November 2014 22:33 (nine years ago) link
I worked 15 years ago with a man named Orson, and remember erstwhile IlXoR accentmonkey making a joke about setting fire to houses in Foxrock.
Great days, Gay, great days.
― Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 11 November 2014 00:41 (nine years ago) link
I heard him recently on Lyric FM (Gaybo rather than the posh firestarter) and it actually took me a moment to realise it wasn't Oliver Callan he's become such a parody of himself. Daycent choons all the same.
― hyggeligt, Tuesday, 11 November 2014 20:33 (nine years ago) link
― Andrew Farrell
heh
― local eire man (darraghmac), Monday, 12 January 2015 13:13 (nine years ago) link
Jesus I leave the country for like several years and ye get rid of the pink Snack? they are the worst Snack but even so
― gyac, Sunday, 1 March 2015 23:23 (nine years ago) link
true and true
the water charge protests won't be in it imo
― local eire man (darraghmac), Sunday, 1 March 2015 23:25 (nine years ago) link
Lies! I was just 5 hours ago looking at a packet of them in the wee Spar in Dublin Airport Terminal 2
― Andrew Farrell, Sunday, 1 March 2015 23:25 (nine years ago) link
nah you'd want to get rid of the purple snack for that level of outrage
pink snack is more like...that time the Journal made a completely terrible list ranking biscuits available in Ireland
― gyac, Sunday, 1 March 2015 23:26 (nine years ago) link
could be the last of the old stock? like those TK lollipops that were phased out everywhere yet you could always get them in that Centra off Cathal Brugha St until at least 2009
― gyac, Sunday, 1 March 2015 23:27 (nine years ago) link
xp (surely in the fullness of time to become an interpretative centre itself)
― Andrew Farrell, Sunday, 1 March 2015 23:27 (nine years ago) link
http://www.donegalnow.com/article/9972
― tayto fan (Michael B), Sunday, 1 March 2015 23:28 (nine years ago) link
It was bad enough reducing the fingers from three to two, but now a Dublin man has begun a campaign.
― kriss akabusi cleaner (seandalai), Sunday, 1 March 2015 23:29 (nine years ago) link
oi
― local eire man (darraghmac), Sunday, 1 March 2015 23:31 (nine years ago) link
He has suddenly got geat support from all over Ireland, including Donegal
― gyac, Sunday, 1 March 2015 23:31 (nine years ago) link
In case readers of Donegal Now were wondering why there were harps on all their money.
― Andrew Farrell, Sunday, 1 March 2015 23:33 (nine years ago) link
it is that sort of weird no-man's land all tucked away up there
i mean, the train doesn't even go there still, does it?
― gyac, Sunday, 1 March 2015 23:34 (nine years ago) link
donegal is a fine place but a hard case and if they seceded I'd not blame them much
but turning sinn féin is no fucking way to go about things neither
― local eire man (darraghmac), Monday, 2 March 2015 00:14 (nine years ago) link
where would they secede to? their own republic? at least they'd get the trains running on ti-
― gyac, Monday, 2 March 2015 19:30 (nine years ago) link
oh chrisht u better hope #0 dont pop in
― local eire man (darraghmac), Monday, 2 March 2015 19:33 (nine years ago) link
Snacks are such a granny-visit bar. Yellow clear favourites.
Donegal could secede to Iceland. Donegal Catch wouldn't have to sweat the quotas.
― hyggeligt, Monday, 2 March 2015 20:33 (nine years ago) link
Jesus they'd go for that I'm practically authorised to speak on behalf of killybegs meself
― local eire man (darraghmac), Monday, 2 March 2015 20:43 (nine years ago) link
yellow, really? if there were enough Irish ilxors for a poll, I'd expect purple to walk it.
― gyac, Monday, 2 March 2015 22:07 (nine years ago) link
purple def the type of niche indie option I'd expect ILX to go for tbh!
but I would not be able to vote in such a poll a world without any of em is a poorer place and they occupy v different needs imo
― local eire man (darraghmac), Monday, 2 March 2015 22:59 (nine years ago) link
I guess what I'm rly saying is that
I dont care if you're pink, yellow, purple
― local eire man (darraghmac), Monday, 2 March 2015 23:13 (nine years ago) link
definitive snack ranking
purpleyellow
pink
― gyac, Monday, 2 March 2015 23:50 (nine years ago) link
Purple. Pink only for culchie primary school teachers along with king crisps.
― 29 facepalms, Tuesday, 3 March 2015 23:11 (nine years ago) link
put up your 29 fists
― post you had fecund thoughts about (darraghmac), Wednesday, 4 March 2015 00:49 (nine years ago) link
Is crystal meth really legal until Thursday?
― Rainbow DAESH (ShariVari), Tuesday, 10 March 2015 16:15 (nine years ago) link
disgraceful, could they not stretch it out until monday?
― tayto fan (Michael B), Tuesday, 10 March 2015 16:17 (nine years ago) link
may i call people's attention to this Best Irish Films ?
― F♯ A♯ (∞), Tuesday, 10 March 2015 16:46 (nine years ago) link
http://www.thejournal.ie/tds-emergency-laws-drugs-1983239-Mar2015/
Dia dhuit Éire
― F♯ A♯ (∞), Wednesday, 11 March 2015 19:20 (nine years ago) link
hiiiiiiiii
― post you had fecund thoughts about (darraghmac), Wednesday, 11 March 2015 19:29 (nine years ago) link
it's completely unsurprising that this has been allowed to happen. This country's drug policy over the last decade has basically been a series of cobbled together quick fixes inspired by particularly heated episodes of Liveline
― Number None, Wednesday, 11 March 2015 19:35 (nine years ago) link
darragh spent the night off his nut stroking his nipples while listening to "live forever" on repeat
― tayto fan (Michael B), Wednesday, 11 March 2015 19:46 (nine years ago) link
u know it
― post you had fecund thoughts about (darraghmac), Wednesday, 11 March 2015 19:49 (nine years ago) link
Definitely an image more for Adrian Kennedy than Joe Duffy.
― hyggeligt, Thursday, 12 March 2015 22:20 (nine years ago) link
http://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/people/family-fortunes-men-were-a-rare-species-on-achill-in-the-1950s-1.2138780
uncle michéal with some thoughts. my mum is in braces in the front row.
― post you had fecund thoughts about (darraghmac), Thursday, 19 March 2015 16:30 (nine years ago) link
That's brilliant. Also a great picture!
Achill is one of the greatest places (totally sidestepping the sadder parts of the story, sorry).
― hyggeligt, Friday, 20 March 2015 22:09 (nine years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/6KyQBO8.jpg?1
― nakhchivan, Tuesday, 31 March 2015 19:51 (eight years ago) link
lads
sports and social committee at work are holding a fundraiser night for a yes vote.
is there a way to point out that this is not rly cool without it being a dick move. obv I'm voting yes myself.
― post you had fecund thoughts about (darraghmac), Sunday, 19 April 2015 18:37 (eight years ago) link
Who ate all the pies... in the future.
― Cram Session in Goniometry (Tom D.), Wednesday, 6 May 2015 12:00 (eight years ago) link
i read that story yesterday, i can't believe the stats in it are accurate, plus anyway weren't we hungry long enough?!
― bureau belfast model (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 6 May 2015 12:26 (eight years ago) link
curious on this one, deems. what was your issue with it?
― bureau belfast model (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 6 May 2015 12:27 (eight years ago) link
was it appropriate/fair for a work event to take a stance kind of thing?
had two people on my team raise it, one from the above POV and the other, imo, from a POV of a no voter that had yknow actual issues with specifically a yes campaign in the work environment
I raised it informally with a member of the committee, she kinda et me, which annoyed me but i wasn't carrying a torch for pushing it or anything so I left it at that, I was told to ask kinda thing.
senior management pulled the event fwiw
― thoughts you made second posts about (darraghmac), Wednesday, 6 May 2015 12:39 (eight years ago) link
i guess it depends how attached to the office and company the sports/social team is. i wasn't sure of that until your clarification there.
interested in the referendum generally, do any of you know any no voters? my dad said he was voting no, my mum is voting yes. dad said "when i tell people they think i've grown horns". i tried to gently offer some persuasive arguments, he mostly was reasonable about it but i assume some baseline homophobia is his motivation.
― bureau belfast model (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 6 May 2015 12:43 (eight years ago) link
I know of one confirmed and he had horns already
I heard one person express that they were considering it because she wasn't sure, having looked at it, that it wasn't anything more than a sop
her four adult kids went fuckin nuts at her, like I was a bit embarrassed for them.
other than that, its all yes, but hey I wouldn't be much for mixing it 'no' circles. one gay fella I knkw said he might vote no cos he's against marriage and the conformity aspect, but he's a law unto himself the same man.
― thoughts you made second posts about (darraghmac), Wednesday, 6 May 2015 12:49 (eight years ago) link
my mum is voting yes but still seemed to believe it was only a sop, as you put it.
― bureau belfast model (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 6 May 2015 12:54 (eight years ago) link
he mostly was reasonable about it but i assume some baseline homophobia is his motivation.
Out of interest, what were his reasonable reasons? Are they based in religious beliefs?
I'd be suprised if anyone in my family was voting No. Even if my gay cousins weren't a consideration, my family just would not think it was their business to say who was and wasn't allowed to get married.
I know a few people who are in the "never voted, never will" camp, which is even worse.
― trishyb, Wednesday, 6 May 2015 13:18 (eight years ago) link
"what happens when the parents get divorced? do the children get divorced too?"
"im sure its the same as when a straight couple get divorced, ma. One parent has custody and the kids see the other parent on weekends probably"
"hmmm, i dunno"
― tayto fan (Michael B), Wednesday, 6 May 2015 16:10 (eight years ago) link
ha
― thoughts you made second posts about (darraghmac), Wednesday, 6 May 2015 16:25 (eight years ago) link
ah his reasons were't reasonable at allreally - there are no reasonable reasons in favour of a "no" imo - i guess i just meant he wasn't attacking people or belligerent, he had some vague thing about distinguishing marriage based on who can biologically have kids, nothing which stood up. don't think he was particularly bothered either way - which is prob why this will be carried. wouldn't surprise me if he didn't actually vote.
― bureau belfast model (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 6 May 2015 22:23 (eight years ago) link
I'm not an advocate of even bringing up the obvious counter arguments, but didja ask him about the straight couple that can't/won't have kids corollary?
kids. such a bizarre thing to fixate on in re a tax arrangement like marriage.
― thoughts you made second posts about (darraghmac), Wednesday, 6 May 2015 22:29 (eight years ago) link
i think a lot of people of my parents' generation might vote no tho, and talking to friends backs this up. i mean i dunno, personally my parents are from an incredibly old-fashioned world - they prob have never been friends with a gay person or someone who isn't white. i had a grand uncle who was incredibly camp, moved to chicago in the 50s, was a hairdresser and dance teacher, visited ireland on his way to see his friend julio in spain every year, and gave my mum leopard print sheets for christmas, i mean i can remember the idea he was being ludicrous in a stern way for my parents, until a few years ago when it seemed to become accepted family truth, in line with the times.
i mean obviously there is real virulent shit coming out of the religious right, and it's a disgrace if this referendum doesn't get carried, but one generation back in ireland is still a v strange and conservative world. doesn't mean these people are morons or bigots. dunno what i'd think if i had religion beaten into me my whole life.
xpost my dad was saying "but they'll never have equality" because of the biologically can't have kids issue, and i just kinda needled him towards "well we can't yet change that which is why we should change every legal status that we can change" - i felt he was fairly receptive but it wouldn't have changed his vote. as i say tho, he was more like "my two cents" knowing it's going to get carried. it all kinda came up cos i went to uni (and my debs) with a certain irish columnist who wrote that fairly arresting article last week.
― bureau belfast model (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 6 May 2015 22:36 (eight years ago) link
that was a follow-up to my own comment, before my xpost to darragh in the last par
― bureau belfast model (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 6 May 2015 22:37 (eight years ago) link
xpost he had some vague thing about distinguishing marriage based on who can biologically have kids
yeah this is pretty much my mum's reasoning also
― tayto fan (Michael B), Wednesday, 6 May 2015 22:37 (eight years ago) link
and i meant to say about my uncle "i can remember the idea he was gay being ludicrous for my parents" xpost
― bureau belfast model (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 6 May 2015 22:38 (eight years ago) link
xpost also she raises the "they have civil partnership isnt that enough?" argument
― tayto fan (Michael B), Wednesday, 6 May 2015 22:42 (eight years ago) link
lol same. my mum is voting yes and she raised that.
― bureau belfast model (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 6 May 2015 22:42 (eight years ago) link
Late Late Show on Friday had a debate with a gay guy saying hes in a civil partnership and that was enough for him. She felt somewhat vindicated by this.
― tayto fan (Michael B), Wednesday, 6 May 2015 22:45 (eight years ago) link
I hope that most of the older people who don't really like the idea of gay marriage but aren't hateful have the good grace to just stay at home rather than vote No.
― trishyb, Wednesday, 6 May 2015 22:53 (eight years ago) link
if you thought it was good grace you'd vote yes
― bureau belfast model (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 6 May 2015 23:08 (eight years ago) link
You're right.
Oh, please let this pass. We could use a win. Poor fat Ireland.
― trishyb, Wednesday, 6 May 2015 23:14 (eight years ago) link
The Irish
The Irish experience is another thread in Europe’s emerging racial dis- course. Ireland became part of European Christendom in 461 CE, not long after Gaul (France) in 397, and before England between 597 and 664. 95 Even so, the Irish were subjected to processes of conquest, colonization, and cultural transformation similar to those used eastern Europe and Spain, two other peripheries of Frankish-Latin Europe. 96 By the twelfth century the Irish were seen by elites of England, France, and Italy as alien to Latin Christendom. Bartlett explains, “Although the Irish were of ancient Christian faith and shared the creed of Frankish Europe, they exhibited pronounced differences in culture and social organization.” Critics regarded Irish social structures and customs as “barbaric” and “beastlike” and held that even though the Irish were Christian, they could be treated as though they were not. 97 During the late Middle Ages, England made this view of Irish otherness an effective tool in their colonization of Ireland. At the request of England’s King Henry II (1154–89), Pope Adrian IV authorized England to rule over the Irish in order to expand the church’s boundaries and “to proclaim the truths of the Christian religion to a rude and ignorant people.” The guiding assumption was that the Irish were fellow human beings but lived a less than fully human Christian life. 99 As England’s noble families began to reside in Ireland, the English eventually developed policies such as the Statutes of Kilkenny (1366) to differentiate the English and the Irish of Ireland. The statutes acknowledged a “mixed nation” of English families that had intermarried with leading Irish families. To contain this “degeneracy” the statutes banned marriage, “concubinage[,] or amour” between the English and Irish and called for a strict separation between them in language and customs. The English at this time did not regard the Irish as biologically different but rather as “uncivilized.” 100 Moreover, until the sixteenth century feudal Ireland remained largely independent from England economically. England launched a more aggressive colonization under the Tudor Dynasty of Henry VII, Henry VIII, and Elizabeth I. By 1541, Henry VIII had enjoined the Anglo-Irish Parliament to proclaim him the spiritual head of the Church of Ireland, obliged all government officials in Ireland to swear allegiance to the church, and established the king of England as the king of Ireland. 101
This marked the beginning of the Protestant ascendancy in Ireland. Under Elizabeth (r. 1558–1603) and James I (r. 1603–25), English 98 policy became more heavy-handed. This involved the expropriation of Irish-owned land, direct exploitation of Irish labor, and forced resettlement of those whose land had been taken. 102 English policy included attempts to establish plantations in Ireland (mostly unsuccessful). The basic model was for English tenants to supplant Irish tenants and for native Irish to be made the primary laborers, with no rights to own land. With the Protestant Ascendancy and the enactment of the Penal Laws, in the sixteenth and seventeenth centuries, England devised a colonial regime that prefigured expressly racist forms of colonial rule that England adopted elsewhere in its empire. The Penal Laws effectively excluded Catholics, who were three-quarters of the Irish population, from all important positions in their country, ownership of property, and education. 104 Still, English colonial rule in Ireland from the mid–seventeenth to the late eighteenth century was something distinct from racial oppression. While English domination of the Irish was as harsh as many other cases of colonial subjugation, it was based on claims about cultural and religious differences rather than on race. 106 The English occasionally used the term race in loose ways to refer to the “wild Irish,” but they lacked a systematic discourse of racial difference. 107 For instance, English Protestants accepted the possibility of Irish Catholics becoming Protestant through conversion, something that is precluded by notions of racial difference. There is often a fine line between these two forms of oppression, however. Moreover, in nineteenth century, after the development of modern racialist thought, the Irish were often explicitly regarded in Europe and the United States as a distinct “Celtic race” by raciologists and in popular racist discourse (see chapters 3 and 4). 109
― nakhchivan, Sunday, 10 May 2015 01:18 (eight years ago) link
uk politics imo
― thoughts you made second posts about (darraghmac), Sunday, 10 May 2015 09:14 (eight years ago) link
Your man with glasses letter reaches Buncrana man Barry Henderson
― This Year's Model Victim (Tom D.), Monday, 20 July 2015 14:05 (eight years ago) link
A friend has pointed out that this is really not that obscure an address - their friend Zach used to carry around a postcard that had been delivered to 'Z, Kerry, Ireland'.
― Andrew Farrell, Monday, 20 July 2015 14:35 (eight years ago) link
Loving these photos from Feile '91
https://scontent-ams2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/11008546_1596002253991173_8396305506691603646_n.jpg?oh=8d954437145ea980e4e4e2b6d928c50b&oe=563CF2FC
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― tayto fan (Michael B), Wednesday, 29 July 2015 23:08 (eight years ago) link
"Will ye ... meet me over by the bin?""... the atein' bin?"
― Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 30 July 2015 06:08 (eight years ago) link
Perfectly willing to hear correction on ateing vs ating.
― Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 30 July 2015 06:14 (eight years ago) link
it's a ting
― irl lol (darraghmac), Thursday, 30 July 2015 09:45 (eight years ago) link
Cmere eamonn and bridgid is great stuff
― broderick f (darraghmac), Monday, 8 February 2016 22:31 (eight years ago) link
Will queue it up for when I need a decent accent and have finished Catastrophe - the Republic of Telly sketch above is probably played out now but doesn't stop being true.
― Andrew Farrell, Monday, 8 February 2016 22:55 (eight years ago) link
Andrew, you did watch the Rubberbandits Guide to 1916, didn't you? It's so good. And surprisingly educational.
― trishyb, Tuesday, 9 February 2016 12:48 (eight years ago) link
I have no idea why I thought that would be a good idea to watch in work.
― Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 9 February 2016 13:09 (eight years ago) link
Oh yeah, you shouldn't do that.
― trishyb, Tuesday, 9 February 2016 13:37 (eight years ago) link
http://www.dailyedge.ie/grand-canal-docks-sign-2220207-Jul2015/?utm_source=facebook_short
― 龜, Wednesday, 16 March 2016 12:09 (eight years ago) link
*wipes tear*
― Ecomigrant gnomics (darraghmac), Wednesday, 16 March 2016 14:26 (eight years ago) link
*cleanses and sutures tear*
https://twitter.com/mathaiaus/status/850943096334409728
― 龜, Sunday, 9 April 2017 12:50 (six years ago) link
18degC? pshaw, it's 21degC in South East England.
― Mozart's Musical Dubstep Dice Game (snoball), Sunday, 9 April 2017 13:02 (six years ago) link
Just now I was outside, wearing a sunhat.
― Mozart's Musical Dubstep Dice Game (snoball), Sunday, 9 April 2017 13:03 (six years ago) link
Identifying himself only with the Kurdish pseudonym Çiya Demhat — which means ‘mountains of our time’ — he explained why he felt obliged to travel to Syria.Speaking in a strong Irish accent, he said: “I’m from Ireland. I came here to fight with the YPG against the IS.“Right now, we’re a few kilometres west of Raqqa. I came here two months ago and for the last three weeks I’ve been with the heavy weapons tabor unit.
Speaking in a strong Irish accent, he said: “I’m from Ireland. I came here to fight with the YPG against the IS.
“Right now, we’re a few kilometres west of Raqqa. I came here two months ago and for the last three weeks I’ve been with the heavy weapons tabor unit.
quite resent this tbh
― quet inn tarnation (darraghmac), Sunday, 25 June 2017 14:48 (six years ago) link
ULSTER FRY
was excellent, can't even pretend
― passé aggresif (darraghmac), Thursday, 28 September 2017 09:26 (six years ago) link
Gone native, so ye have.
― The Doug Walters of Crime (Tom D.), Thursday, 28 September 2017 09:42 (six years ago) link
Twasnt ever us that weren't native hi
― passé aggresif (darraghmac), Thursday, 28 September 2017 11:34 (six years ago) link
ulster will fry and ulster will be fried
― Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Thursday, 28 September 2017 12:01 (six years ago) link
― Number None, Wednesday, 30 October 2013 13:01 (four years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
The aul fella just got into a fight on Wikipedia with a Donegal man about this
And some fella from Malta intervenes with the dingli cliffs, blows em both outta the water
Ice cold
― fake pato is kind of racist, dude (darraghmac), Saturday, 18 November 2017 11:52 (six years ago) link
this lad
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_William_Fenton
― infinity (∞), Monday, 11 December 2017 17:33 (six years ago) link
I feel conflicted over #repeal - glad that not being in the country means I’ll hear about the poisonous campaign secondhand, but also angry that I can’t vote. Reproductive rights are incredibly important to me and I wasn’t old enough to vote. Think repeal will squeeze it but it’ll be narrow, and the campaign is vile. I remember as a child that I would often see campaigners out in town with placards with pictures of mangled foetuses on them - in a country where it had been illegal since before I was born. So yeah, this is going to be fucking ugly.
― gyac, Friday, 2 February 2018 19:15 (six years ago) link
*the last time we had a vote that touched on the subject (2002)
You'll never beat the Irish (at being socially conservative in Northern Europe)
― khat person (jim in vancouver), Friday, 2 February 2018 20:03 (six years ago) link
Fuck the media
There won't be anything like a debate for the majority
Just nutters on each side which neatly sidesteps that one side is p much all nutters
― Alderweireld Horses (darraghmac), Friday, 2 February 2018 20:43 (six years ago) link
Nutters and/or Americans.
Who are the pro-choice equivalents? I wasn’t aware there were any with the profile of the Iona Institute.
― gyac, Friday, 2 February 2018 21:28 (six years ago) link
couldn't find an irish lit thread
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/19/books/review/time-pieces-john-banville-memoir.html
So, “Time Pieces.” The title is a four-way pun, I believe, referring to wrist and pocket watches, pieces of writing on the subject of time, fragments or units of time and the assemblage of memories that time pieces together, such as this memoir. Banville’s book is about time, insofar as a memoir is about anything, and about the past particularly, of which Banville is an honored citizen. In his Benjamin Black crime novels, he often takes up residence there, as he did in early novels like“Kepler,”“The Newton Letter” and “Doctor Copernicus.” In the recent novel“Mrs. Osmond,” his sequel to “The Portrait of a Lady,” he extends the past as he picks up Isabel Archer’s story where Henry James thought he’d ended it. It’s no surprise, then, that in “Time Pieces,” Banville asks himself, “When does the past become the past?”Driving around town with his friend and travel companion Cicero, in Cicero’s little red roadster, he becomes the flâneur with wheels, greeting the past as he goes. He touches on the pain of leaving Dublin as a boy after a visit to his aunt, hiding his tears on the train ride home to Wexford because “something was ending” and thus becoming the past. He also veers into old Dublin as he writes of the preserved stones of the Abbey Theater, destroyed in a fire in 1951, and pauses for a recollection of Georgie Yeats, the poet’s wife, and her penetrating black eyes that glanced at Banville “straight out of the past.” In a house on Henrietta Street, he notices a fragment of wallpaper whose survival unaccountably reminds him of the ruins of Herculaneum, sections of which were preserved in volcanic dust, spared from the lava flow that destroyed Pompeii. “How many imbricated layers of the past am I standing on?” he wonders, an echo of an earlier quote he recalls from Rilke: ”But this/having been once, though only once,/having been once on earth — can it ever be cancelled?”It never can be. The only tense we live in is the past; the present moves so fast that it becomes the past even as it’s observed and experienced. And the future is, well, the future. And since the people, events and objects of our little histories are never commonly agreed upon — I saw it one way, you saw it another — the past becomes endlessly interesting, as changeable and unnerving as any work of art. Perhaps childhood never leaves us because we were pure artists then, unfettered by much personal history. Childhood fascinates Banville because it’s “a state of constantly recurring astonishment.” When the astonishment ebbs, the past clouds over into itself. “The process of growing up,” he writes, “is, sadly, a process of turning the mysterious into the mundane.” Only when the adult artist revives it are we excited at the prospect of what is long behind us.
Driving around town with his friend and travel companion Cicero, in Cicero’s little red roadster, he becomes the flâneur with wheels, greeting the past as he goes. He touches on the pain of leaving Dublin as a boy after a visit to his aunt, hiding his tears on the train ride home to Wexford because “something was ending” and thus becoming the past. He also veers into old Dublin as he writes of the preserved stones of the Abbey Theater, destroyed in a fire in 1951, and pauses for a recollection of Georgie Yeats, the poet’s wife, and her penetrating black eyes that glanced at Banville “straight out of the past.” In a house on Henrietta Street, he notices a fragment of wallpaper whose survival unaccountably reminds him of the ruins of Herculaneum, sections of which were preserved in volcanic dust, spared from the lava flow that destroyed Pompeii. “How many imbricated layers of the past am I standing on?” he wonders, an echo of an earlier quote he recalls from Rilke: ”But this/having been once, though only once,/having been once on earth — can it ever be cancelled?”
It never can be. The only tense we live in is the past; the present moves so fast that it becomes the past even as it’s observed and experienced. And the future is, well, the future. And since the people, events and objects of our little histories are never commonly agreed upon — I saw it one way, you saw it another — the past becomes endlessly interesting, as changeable and unnerving as any work of art. Perhaps childhood never leaves us because we were pure artists then, unfettered by much personal history. Childhood fascinates Banville because it’s “a state of constantly recurring astonishment.” When the astonishment ebbs, the past clouds over into itself. “The process of growing up,” he writes, “is, sadly, a process of turning the mysterious into the mundane.” Only when the adult artist revives it are we excited at the prospect of what is long behind us.
― bald butte (∞), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 00:15 (six years ago) link
Jesus Christ that writing has made me tense in the present
Yanks shouldn't get to write about Irish writers that's a stinking piece.
― Simpson L. (darraghmac), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 00:18 (six years ago) link
write us one dmac
― bald butte (∞), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 00:20 (six years ago) link
I would but I haven't read anything
― Simpson L. (darraghmac), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 00:21 (six years ago) link
LOL deems, so right.
― Video reach stereo bog (Tom D.), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 00:30 (six years ago) link
"So, “Time Pieces.” The title is a four-way pun, I believe, referring to wrist and pocket watches, pieces of writing on the subject of time, fragments or units of time and the assemblage of memories that time pieces together, such as this memoir. "
This is where I take off my watch and beat him with it around the face and ears
― Simpson L. (darraghmac), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 00:33 (six years ago) link
here's a better one
https://www.irishtimes.com/culture/books/time-pieces-a-dublin-memoir-by-john-banville-review-utterly-delightful-1.2834302
― bald butte (∞), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 00:45 (six years ago) link
I have a friend who was over visiting relatives in Kilcar, Co. Donegal, which I think I might even have been in myself, so this Notable People From wikipedia entry caught my attention:
Bishop Séamus Hegarty is from Kilcar.Dr. Diarmuid Hegarty, former County Coroner is from Kilcar.Michael Hegarty, Donegal Senior Player 1998 - 2011, Ulster Final 2011 and All Ireland National League winner is from Crowkeeragh, Kilcar.Showband singer Dermot Hegarty hails from County Longford, but his father Andrew Hegarty was from Crowkeeragh, Kilcar, cousin of Michael Hegarty Donegal Senior player. He is a legend in the Irish country scene. In 1969 he formed with the Plainsmen topping the bill at venues throughout Ireland, England, America and Canada. 1970 saw the release of 21 years which dominated the Irish charts for 47 weeks.
Dr. Diarmuid Hegarty, former County Coroner is from Kilcar.
Michael Hegarty, Donegal Senior Player 1998 - 2011, Ulster Final 2011 and All Ireland National League winner is from Crowkeeragh, Kilcar.
Showband singer Dermot Hegarty hails from County Longford, but his father Andrew Hegarty was from Crowkeeragh, Kilcar, cousin of Michael Hegarty Donegal Senior player. He is a legend in the Irish country scene. In 1969 he formed with the Plainsmen topping the bill at venues throughout Ireland, England, America and Canada. 1970 saw the release of 21 years which dominated the Irish charts for 47 weeks.
― Kanye O'er Frae France? (Tom D.), Wednesday, 9 May 2018 00:54 (five years ago) link
whole lotta Hegartys in Kilcar
― A is for (Aimless), Wednesday, 9 May 2018 01:11 (five years ago) link
wouldnt mind its not even a kilcar name
kennedy now thats a kilcar name
― gneb farts (darraghmac), Wednesday, 9 May 2018 07:27 (five years ago) link
https://www.irishpost.com/entertainment/everything-you-ever-need-to-know-about-irelands-showbands-50291
I can't believe there isn't a 50's - 70's Irish Showband scene thread on ILM or a Clipper Carlton c or d?
― calzino, Wednesday, 9 May 2018 07:41 (five years ago) link
twont be me starting it calz
― gneb farts (darraghmac), Wednesday, 9 May 2018 08:08 (five years ago) link
My dead dad would have been game on, if he had worked out that computers had moved on from the playing Moon Buggy on the C-64 days and maybe got one!
― calzino, Wednesday, 9 May 2018 08:28 (five years ago) link
I think Bishop Séamus Hegarty had a lot of offspring.
― Kanye O'er Frae France? (Tom D.), Wednesday, 9 May 2018 08:56 (five years ago) link
Just think, if Dermot Hegarty, cousin of Michael Hegarty, Donegal Senior player, had released '47 Weeks' it might have dominated the Irish charts for 21 years.
― Kanye O'er Frae France? (Tom D.), Wednesday, 9 May 2018 09:24 (five years ago) link
🚨 BREAKING: Google has announced it is pausing ALL adverts relating to the referendum on the Eighth Amendment over concerns about “election integrity.” @thetimesIE— Ellen Coyne (@ellenmcoyne) May 9, 2018
― gyac, Wednesday, 9 May 2018 13:14 (five years ago) link
yeah it is!
― gneb farts (darraghmac), Wednesday, 9 May 2018 13:37 (five years ago) link
Belatedly started listening to the Blindboy podcast and love it, but his voice is weirdly soothing? I fell asleep listening to him.
― gyac, Tuesday, 24 July 2018 11:50 (five years ago) link
Just over 17 years since the OP:
As Francis was driven through the centre of Dublinon Saturday afternoon, there was a generational divide in attitudes.Louise Clifford, 24, a designer from Limerick who now lives in the capital, said: “If this was 20 years ago this street would be full, but there are about 20 people and the pope is about to drive by.”She said she and her friends were “not really religious” but described herself as a “cultural Catholic”. “It’s the norm in Ireland,” she said.Bernard Connelly, 82, from Rimnheh on the outskirts of Dublin, was waiting eagerly. “I’ve seen five popes in my lifetime and I think Pope Francis is fantastic. He tells it like it is.“This abuse scandal has gone on for years and years. There is no getting away from it. Please God it will be fixed soon. Let’s hope Pope Francis is the man to do it.”According to Sarah Carolan, 33, there was a “nice buzz” around the pope’s visit. “I am Catholic but not a believer,” she said. “I was raised Catholic, married in church and all that craic. My sympathies are with the people who suffered at the hands of the church, but I also think there is good there.”
Louise Clifford, 24, a designer from Limerick who now lives in the capital, said: “If this was 20 years ago this street would be full, but there are about 20 people and the pope is about to drive by.”
She said she and her friends were “not really religious” but described herself as a “cultural Catholic”. “It’s the norm in Ireland,” she said.
Bernard Connelly, 82, from Rimnheh on the outskirts of Dublin, was waiting eagerly. “I’ve seen five popes in my lifetime and I think Pope Francis is fantastic. He tells it like it is.
“This abuse scandal has gone on for years and years. There is no getting away from it. Please God it will be fixed soon. Let’s hope Pope Francis is the man to do it.”
According to Sarah Carolan, 33, there was a “nice buzz” around the pope’s visit. “I am Catholic but not a believer,” she said. “I was raised Catholic, married in church and all that craic. My sympathies are with the people who suffered at the hands of the church, but I also think there is good there.”
I am aware of the fact that many many Irish people are 'raised Catholic' but non-believers (like the Dirty Vicar of ilx for instance) - fine.
But still I find 'cultural Catholic' quite puzzling here. Surely the 'culture' involves Catholic practice, religious things. I am not sure I see what 'culture' you are left with once you take the religious practice away, except for, to be sure, fine art.
― the pinefox, Saturday, 25 August 2018 18:42 (five years ago) link
The culture part refers to rituals such as weddings, christenings, communion, confirmation etc. Its a good point though. I think the catholic church has failed to properly make their dogma resonate through these events anymore
― . (Michael B), Saturday, 25 August 2018 18:51 (five years ago) link
i think the focus is on the cultural aspect in how the ethos, structure, practice and effects are implicitly (if not explicitly) present in the day to day lives, communication, speech, assumptions of the majority of the population
xp somewhat what mike says but again one remove again away from actual religious practice
― flaneur brayin (darraghmac), Saturday, 25 August 2018 18:54 (five years ago) link
I think Michael B's response makes pretty good sense -- so ... you go through this Communion and Marriage stuff without believing it - that makes you a Cultural Catholic? (Not just a lapsed one?)
re Darraghmac's statement: but I don't see what the ethos, practice, etc are once you stop doing the religious stuff.
Surely for instance 'Catholic ethos' would include no contraception (among lots of other things)-- if people are using that as a matter of course, then they are not acting or thinking in a very Catholic way at the level of 'everyday habitus'?
re Irish speech, I am sure that Catholicism has left much trace in it but would think that the larger shaper of Hiberno-English is the legacy of the Irish language, which I am not sure is especially linked with the Church but has deeper roots. And then of course it has also been shaped by the last 50-100 years of 'global culture', Americanization, immigration from Africa, etc.
― the pinefox, Saturday, 25 August 2018 19:02 (five years ago) link
Thanks for the quick replies anyway!
― the pinefox, Saturday, 25 August 2018 19:03 (five years ago) link
― the pinefox
guilt, hypocrisy
― Arch Bacon (rushomancy), Saturday, 25 August 2018 19:12 (five years ago) link
drinking
rushomancy, I think I see, those could be real answers.
I saw lots of the Papal visit today on a silent BBC News 24 screen in a library. He spoke at St Mary's Pro Cathedral about marriage and the family. He seemed quite jocular, talking of how if you are married you can throw plates at each other as long as you make it up by the end of the day.
The curious thing, that I always think, is, what would he know about being married?
― the pinefox, Saturday, 25 August 2018 19:15 (five years ago) link
"Rimnheh"?
― Number None, Saturday, 25 August 2018 19:15 (five years ago) link
― the pinefox, Saturday, August 25, 2018 1:42 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
you've heard of secular jews right
― gbx, Saturday, 25 August 2018 19:54 (five years ago) link
my mom was born in ireland, went to convent school, and is now an atheist but still sort of appreciates the ritual and pageantry of the church, and generally likes jesuits for caring for the poor and believing in eg gravity and evolution
i myself went to catholic school as a child, was never confirmed, never done a catechism, generally repudiate most of the church's teaching, and reflexively crossed myself when i went into a cathedral as a tourist a few weeks ago
― gbx, Saturday, 25 August 2018 19:59 (five years ago) link
which is to say: as an irish person by passport only, i can still appreciate how ritual, practice, dogma, et al can suffuse someone's thinking, despite a more surface level rejection of the faith itself
― gbx, Saturday, 25 August 2018 20:04 (five years ago) link
Ha anytime I'm at my parents, I bless myself with the holy water before the drive home after my mother asks me to
― . (Michael B), Saturday, 25 August 2018 20:07 (five years ago) link
I know enough semi-practising or "cultural" Catholics and enough history of the Church to feel comfortable saying that there's always been lots of people who'd self-define as some form of Catholic without taking specific rules - e.g. contraception - very seriously. The Papacy has never been the only game in town aiui
― Noodle Vague, Saturday, 25 August 2018 20:09 (five years ago) link
honestly the best part of being catholic is embracing the little-c
― gbx, Saturday, 25 August 2018 20:15 (five years ago) link
It honestly looks like they've rounded up the most Irish looking people in Ireland for this appearance by the Pope at Croke Park.
― Scottish Country Twerking (Tom D.), Saturday, 25 August 2018 20:34 (five years ago) link
I can remember a cousin from Dublin visiting and staying at our house, and my mum, who like her brothers had a rough time in the Irish industrial schools in the 50's and endured every type of abuse. On a Palm Sunday my crazy grandmother was admonishing my poor cousin: "Are you coming to church with me, or staying with these anti-christs?". Obviously my mum had turned against the church at various points of her life because of her and her siblings horrific experiences in the care of the Christian Brothers, but kept flip-flopping on the issue and I still spent plenty of time being dragged to church, and every room in the house had a crucifix or a jesus pic in it. Strong drug is Catholicism.
― calzino, Saturday, 25 August 2018 20:48 (five years ago) link
id have thought guilt hypocrisy and drinking p obv inclusions in my response tbh but
― flaneur brayin (darraghmac), Saturday, 25 August 2018 21:32 (five years ago) link
except for, to be sure, fine art.
A rare joke from the pinefox!
― Britain's Sexiest Cow (jed_), Saturday, 25 August 2018 22:17 (five years ago) link
Why did the Irishman wear two condoms?
To be sure, to be sure
― . (Michael B), Saturday, 25 August 2018 22:34 (five years ago) link
But still I find 'cultural Catholic' quite puzzling here. Surely the 'culture' involves Catholic practice, religious things. I am not sure I see what 'culture' you are left with once you take the religious practice away, except for, to be sure, fine art.― the pinefox, Saturday, August 25, 2018 1:42 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalinkyou've heard of secular jews right― gbx, Saturday, August 25, 2018
― gbx, Saturday, August 25, 2018
I think so. I have certainly heard of the idea of 'Jewish' being a very broad category. But I think the comparison somewhat makes the point. We can all think of Jewish food, for instance; I can't think of Catholic food, outside their Communion thing. 'Jewish' does seem to be a 'culture', an 'ethnicity', let alone a 'race', to a degree that 'Catholic' doesn't seem to be.
From what has been said here it seems like 'cultural Catholic' is synonymous with 'lapsed Catholic', or: 'I was brought up to be a Catholic and I still remember lots of that stuff, but I don't believe in god anymore'.
That's OK - I think it was the word 'culture' that was making me wonder.
― the pinefox, Sunday, 26 August 2018 07:20 (five years ago) link
could go into a catholic/protestant comparison here from observation and experience but tbh pf you do seem a wee bit determined to focus on the observance aspect and not the ingrained social characteristics that might be in the discussion so....
― flaneur brayin (darraghmac), Sunday, 26 August 2018 07:25 (five years ago) link
also tbf twould be likely to immediately lapse (ha) into sub ed byrne observational comedy tropes so....
― flaneur brayin (darraghmac), Sunday, 26 August 2018 07:27 (five years ago) link
I'm only 'focusing' on it because I don't get what the non-religious 'ingrained social characteristics' are. My whole point was really to ask what they were, and _not_ to focus on 'religious observance'.
I agree that a contrast between (Irish) Catholic / Protestant 'habitus', behaviour, etc (preferably leaving out religious observance stuff) would be a good way to illustrate the issue.
(Though it would surely also risk becoming mixed up with class, wealth, issues that are not theological. Yes I realize that the religious sects in question are deeply historically linked to class but I am trying to see the elements as analytically separate, to understand better what was meant by 'cultural'.)
I think that saying eg 'guilt' is suggestive in one way but also could use more specifics to be helpful as, actually, everyone in the world experiences guilt all the time, except perhaps Donald Trump, Boris Johnson and Nigel Farage.
― the pinefox, Sunday, 26 August 2018 08:29 (five years ago) link
An old cliché is: 'James Joyce left the church, but retained the Catholic / scholastic way of thinking, which explains the highly structured basis of Ulysses [viz: schemata, etc]'.
I have probably parroted this myself various times but TBH, anyone is capable of making a highly structured basis for a work of art - it's not really clear to an outsider how Catholicism specifically makes it possible.
― the pinefox, Sunday, 26 August 2018 08:32 (five years ago) link
agreed that it is almost impossible to extricate from everything else, particularly class, wealth and hobbies
protestants have hobbies
maybe we can start there
― flaneur brayin (darraghmac), Sunday, 26 August 2018 08:34 (five years ago) link
Though the word 'cultural' puzzled me, if you said something like 'the sociology of Irish Catholicism' or 'the sociological differences between Protestants and Catholics in Ireland', I would understand that fine. The fact that there are thee big social groups defined partly by what was (or still is) a religious heritage, mixed up with class and politics, I do understand.
So, the only thing I didn't really understand was, what exactly was the 'culture'.
― the pinefox, Sunday, 26 August 2018 08:35 (five years ago) link
*three
― the pinefox, Sunday, 26 August 2018 08:36 (five years ago) link
Not three: *THESE* big social groups
Is it true, about the hobbies, and 'cultural Catholics' do not have them?
How about 'culturally Irish Catholic'? Or 'culturally Polish Catholic'? Or 'culturally Chilean Catholic'? Etc.
― pomenitul, Sunday, 26 August 2018 09:00 (five years ago) link
i submit that it is, as a starting position
where a catholic father, held for purposes of conversation to be present and sober, encourages diversion upon a child of either main subdivision, held for purposes of conversation to be a son, that diversion is submitted to be more likely to be in the first instance something useful along the lines physical eg 'the ga' (formally either of the main gaelic sports codes). soccer, the lower athletics and cycling also a likely choice, nothing requiring detailed technical coaching or equipment either to specific, exotic or delicate.
in the second instance yr stereotypically catholic father might offer something useful in lines of trade or technical skill, utility being key here. the child/een might be encouraged towards picking up a wrench or a soldering iron, but something that might in the end game lead to a general type of employment in the type of way that hints at ryanair flights at christmas, 'digs' by way of lodgings and coming home at forty-five with please god enough to build a house in the back field. yr anglo-associated is in this theory more likely to be palmed towards something that can be done quietly in the background in the drawing room, so as to display the variety of learning, good manners and discipline of the child when a vicar or similar calls. anything that might stain a collar or lace of wrist is right out.
musical activities, pre teen independence (outside realm of discussion), might be more likely in the taig tradition to take place in the context of a pipe band, start with the recorder and work yr way through the kilts until you get to the drums kind of thing. social, possibly martial, certainly coded element to it maybe. the other crowd will need to demonstrate the financial and technical prowess of a violin, flute, double bass or etc that needs a tutor, a fancy case and a lack of suitable friends their age in the parish.
yr prod kid he gets attic or bedroom hobbies that are designed not to maximise the social interaction but rather to limit them because sebastian - let us assume like his father- prefers it this way. his train kits or spotting hobbies are such that they can be enjoyed even (especially) while still boxed and organised, and the lists and characteristics of associated items can be learned and recounted to oneself or other enthusiasts with recourse to any activity as such. our lot got the lego our numerous cousins didnt eat.
that kind of thing.
― flaneur brayin (darraghmac), Sunday, 26 August 2018 09:13 (five years ago) link
Great fun post Darraghmac.
One might suppose that C & P here simply code into 'working / lower class' and 'middle class'.
But there are w-cl Ps (cf O'Casey) and m-cl Cs (cf ... Anne Enright?).
Maybe at this point in history, there are no longer many working-class Protestants in the Republic?
― the pinefox, Sunday, 26 August 2018 09:50 (five years ago) link
On reflection I think 'culturally Catholic' woman may have meant
1) I belong to the large group sociologically defined as Irish Catholics, though we don't all believe in god and go to church.
2) I take part in Catholic ceremonies sometimes, but I don't really believe in it - it's 'merely cultural'.
She may not have been thinking of a larger non-ecclesiastical 'Catholic culture' as D-Mac and I have been trying to configure.
― the pinefox, Sunday, 26 August 2018 09:52 (five years ago) link
I have just bought the IRISH SUNDAY INDEPENDENT.
https://www.independent.ie/
― the pinefox, Sunday, 26 August 2018 09:54 (five years ago) link
oh god
do report back
― flaneur brayin (darraghmac), Sunday, 26 August 2018 09:57 (five years ago) link
It is always quite enjoyable. It tends to contain lots of short columns of 'life experience', 'this life', 'isn't it funny', etc, and a letters page in which at Christmas a reader advises other readers to read A CHRISTMAS CAROL.
It also carries syndicated soccer coverage from the Observer and Telegraph.
― the pinefox, Sunday, 26 August 2018 10:30 (five years ago) link
http://atomfilms.ie/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/Irelands-Own.jpg
http://img2.thejournal.ie/inline/3633019/original/?width=382&version=3633019
some Real Ireland gear here, Pinefox.
― calzino, Sunday, 26 August 2018 10:40 (five years ago) link
GiS Ireland's Own front covers is a hell of a wormhole to go down!
― calzino, Sunday, 26 August 2018 10:45 (five years ago) link
oh yes that stuff too
and die hedald for de dubs
― flaneur brayin (darraghmac), Sunday, 26 August 2018 10:45 (five years ago) link
That makes it sound like the Sunday Post, but I imagine nowhere near as weird.
― Scottish Country Twerking (Tom D.), Sunday, 26 August 2018 10:59 (five years ago) link
I hadn't logged in in weeks and wasn't really thinking about doing so again, but apparently this deeply weird debate about "cultural Catholicism" in an Irish context is the thing that gets me going "lads, lads, LADS", so...
NB these are all quite broad strokes and I recognise some as specific to me and not necessarily applicable to others.
Cultural Catholicism is blessing yourself when you pass a graveyard.Cultural Catholism is your nana giving you a prayer to St Joseph to help you do well in your exams (and these are something you can buy.) And everyone in your class has one too.Cultural Catholicism is also praying to St Anthony when you lose something, regardless of beliefor observance, and not ridiculing any suggestion that you do would do so.Cultural Catholicism is being familiar enough with Mass to know how it goes when you have to go, but being completely thrown by the New Mass (though maybe this is just me).
It's feeling the weird sense of conflict that Leo described yesterday, that knowing that the same Church that educated and helped people is the same one that abused and stole and buried bodies in septic tanks. It's getting defensive whenever a non-Irish person says "why don't you just become Protestant" as though that meant anything, as though your ancestors weren't persecuted for being Catholic, as though it's that easy. As though the comments on British newspapers on Irish topics aren't full of anti-Catholicism, as though that justified everything that was ever done. Why can't you just be rational about this, you know the Church considers you a second-class citizen, right?
It's having priests come round to dinner even if your family never go to Mass. It's interacting with nuns at school. It's burying your dead within a few days. It's the way the news starts a minute late because of the Angelus. It's a million little things that are embedded in us and are totally alien to outsiders and the way we never think about that until it's brought up or have reason to think about it.
It's mocking people you disagree with politically as soup takers
And for me specifically:- never eating meat on Good Friday even though I never go to Mass & don't consider myself religious (and even though American Catholics apparently don't eat meat on any Friday?)- sometimes wanting to get married in a Catholic ceremony even though I'm non-observant (and they make you promise to raise children Catholic)
I'm sure there was a third but I might have written it above. Anyway. Probably not helpful.
― gyac, Sunday, 26 August 2018 14:40 (five years ago) link
no no its all good
i mean i recognise all of it, tho im not sure thats all of it but thats all def part of it
i dont do any of that stuff ito the behaviourals, but still think of myself as culturally catholic because even that secondary stuff is the personal primordial basis for who i am kinda thing if thats in any way coherent?
― flaneur brayin (darraghmac), Sunday, 26 August 2018 14:50 (five years ago) link
gyac otm
We can all think of Jewish food, for instance; I can't think of Catholic food, outside their Communion thing.
Leaving aside the assertion of "Jewish food" as a single category, the second part is also nonsense. It's less obvious because of Catholic hegemony in many countries but half the pastry traditions of western Europe, food eaten on Christmas/Easter/other feast days, bad dried fish because you need something to eat on Fridays = Catholic food.
― A Box of After Dinner Comics Shipped to Your House Each Month (seandalai), Sunday, 26 August 2018 15:07 (five years ago) link
Not that surprising as Catholicism had the field to itself, in the West anyway, for 1500 years.
― Scottish Country Twerking (Tom D.), Sunday, 26 August 2018 15:22 (five years ago) link
XxxxpDid like 80% of thatOne thing is the culturally part comes in because of family or being close to people with a shared background When i travel or lived in a different country/city a long time it’s almost like i never was catholic but i think that is specific to north america, where there are these micro/family size (sub)cultures, unlike a large unifying oneBut i read what you say and do think my family fit that mould, not so much the new american generation though
― F# A# (∞), Sunday, 26 August 2018 15:29 (five years ago) link
I guess it’s a feeling that people are holding you accountable for things
― F# A# (∞), Sunday, 26 August 2018 15:35 (five years ago) link
Calzino, yes, that looks like a magazine that is even (or a lot) further down the ethos I am describing than the newspaper is.
The newspaper features a lot of reports mainly saying 'Ireland is liberal now and the Pope must get used to it' and a long one attacking anonymous liberals and intellectuals for supposedly being anti-Catholic. It is a paper that is always full of opinions.
The one thing I have not seen said much is the thing that would seem more obvious perhaps in other contexts, ie: this Pope is unusual and in lots of ways more interesting and positive than other Popes. The coverage of the Irish visit (certainly BBC, and also the paper that I have read thus far) has tended to ignore that amid representing him as head of Catholicism in general.
― the pinefox, Sunday, 26 August 2018 15:41 (five years ago) link
Actually it features at least 3 articles attacking liberals, as 'the new PC priestly caste' who have replaced the old Catholic order.
― the pinefox, Sunday, 26 August 2018 16:46 (five years ago) link
turnout is in
<25% the forecast
― flaneur brayin (darraghmac), Sunday, 26 August 2018 16:49 (five years ago) link
At Phoenix Park?
― the pinefox, Sunday, 26 August 2018 16:51 (five years ago) link
130k vs 600k
― flaneur brayin (darraghmac), Sunday, 26 August 2018 16:54 (five years ago) link
a very small turnout compared to what was expected alright
― . (Michael B), Sunday, 26 August 2018 16:55 (five years ago) link
Jewish culture not a good analogue for whatever pt is attempting to be made about a non-religious culture of catholicism fyi
― Οὖτις, Sunday, 26 August 2018 16:56 (five years ago) link
Jews have a shared language, food, music, literature, film etc. that is largely (in some cases completely) separate from theology. i could go into this more but typing on my phone is annoying
― Οὖτις, Sunday, 26 August 2018 17:03 (five years ago) link
yeah
i think Catholicism has tended towards homogeneity in the cultures/nations it inhabited such that you would struggle to unscramble the egg that way
― flaneur brayin (darraghmac), Sunday, 26 August 2018 17:08 (five years ago) link
FWIW Outis's point is roughly the same one I was trying to make, albeit from, in my case, a distance from both religions and limited knowledge of them.
― the pinefox, Sunday, 26 August 2018 17:29 (five years ago) link
'HUGE crowd'
https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/pope-visit-ireland-crowd-phoenixpark-13142619
― the pinefox, Sunday, 26 August 2018 17:59 (five years ago) link
An estimated 500,000 people
...assembled in Phoenix Park to listen to an estimated 200 popes.
― A is for (Aimless), Sunday, 26 August 2018 18:03 (five years ago) link
Our buses are lined up and we’re ready to take people home from the Phoenix Park @TFIupdates #PopeinIreland #Popeinthepark pic.twitter.com/TDH0sQWtOH— Dublin Bus (@dublinbusnews) August 26, 2018
― the pinefox, Sunday, 26 August 2018 18:04 (five years ago) link
that mirror article is hysterical. someone really had fun putting that together.
― Britain's Sexiest Cow (jed_), Sunday, 26 August 2018 18:18 (five years ago) link
It was probably written last Friday, straight from the itinerary handed out before the visit. The 500,000 crowd estimate was probably put together months ago by the planners.
― A is for (Aimless), Sunday, 26 August 2018 18:29 (five years ago) link
Well they supposedly "sold" 500,000 tickets but bundles of them were bought up by protesters
― Number None, Sunday, 26 August 2018 18:39 (five years ago) link
thats a sourpuss online catholic warrior narrative
everyone wanted to be there was there
― flaneur brayin (darraghmac), Sunday, 26 August 2018 18:45 (five years ago) link
I know...
― Number None, Sunday, 26 August 2018 18:46 (five years ago) link
like, take every no vote, presume half dead since, checks out
― flaneur brayin (darraghmac), Sunday, 26 August 2018 18:49 (five years ago) link
(and even though American Catholics apparently don't eat meat on any Friday?)
The only time my coworkers refrain from meat on Fridays is during Lent. On the other hand, when I was growing up, the school lunches on Friday were always meatless.
― tokyo rosemary, Sunday, 26 August 2018 19:11 (five years ago) link
Probably Drimnagh. I'm guessing that the journalist didn't ask his interlocutor to spell it and had to take a wild stab at it later on while transcribing the recording. "Rimnheh" sounds like something you'd encounter in a H.P. Lovecraft story.
― Vast Halo, Sunday, 26 August 2018 20:21 (five years ago) link
or a gay tmi thread
― Britain's Sexiest Cow (jed_), Sunday, 26 August 2018 20:21 (five years ago) link
hurrahhh
― flaneur brayin (darraghmac), Sunday, 26 August 2018 20:44 (five years ago) link
"thats a sourpuss online catholic warrior narrative
― flaneur brayin (darraghmac), Sunday, 26 August 2018 18:45 (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink"
There were tickets available at the gates to the park, and a mate of mine who I met at the Stand4Truth thing said he'd been offered multiple spare tix by punters as he walked against the tide and into town.
― Fine Toothcomb (sonofstan), Sunday, 26 August 2018 21:02 (five years ago) link
Francis needs to get a wee press-stud sewn under that cape.
― Britain's Sexiest Cow (jed_), Sunday, 26 August 2018 21:06 (five years ago) link
his coat this mornin was p badass
― flaneur brayin (darraghmac), Sunday, 26 August 2018 21:08 (five years ago) link
RTE’s reverential coverage of the Pope’s visit was not journalism. It was propaganda for an institution that has been criminally complicit in the rape and buggery of children around the world and is the prime institutional carrier of mysogyny and homophobia.— Vincent Browne (@vincentbrowne) August 26, 2018
atta fuckin boy vincent
― flaneur brayin (darraghmac), Sunday, 26 August 2018 21:47 (five years ago) link
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2009/nov/28/christian-brothers-ireland-child-abuse
he'd get on well with my uncle Jim, the only person in my family to have an interview in the graun!
― calzino, Sunday, 26 August 2018 21:53 (five years ago) link
the text on the link the pinefox posted has been completely changed hah
― Britain's Sexiest Cow (jed_), Sunday, 26 August 2018 22:04 (five years ago) link
Pope Francis is an anagram of 'profane pics'.
makes you think.
― Britain's Sexiest Cow (jed_), Sunday, 26 August 2018 23:14 (five years ago) link
Eating at a family restaurant and i see a happy go lucky priest say hi to old fat typical lads all making a ruckus and my immediate reaction when i see him is to greet him and cross myself
― F# A# (∞), Monday, 27 August 2018 00:07 (five years ago) link
Bless me father for they are twats
― . (Michael B), Monday, 27 August 2018 07:32 (five years ago) link
I thought of an example of 'Catholic culture'.
Martin Scorsese.
― the pinefox, Thursday, 30 August 2018 07:32 (five years ago) link
do we not then need to extricate the italian-american and add the irish?
is there for the purposes a case for studying the irish-american?
― lee guacamole (darraghmac), Thursday, 30 August 2018 08:00 (five years ago) link
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Irishman_(2019_film)
― Scottish Country Twerking (Tom D.), Thursday, 30 August 2018 08:09 (five years ago) link
D-Mac, points taken.
I think I was just still trying to think of what a 'Catholic culture' might mean, absent national references and (as per my own search) not primarily an ecclesiastical matter, and this seemed one of the clearest living cases - an artist (not a priest or theologian) whose work is not mainly 'about' Catholicism, priests, churches, etc, but which one can I think fairly plausibly see as 'imbued' with it, reference to it, etc.
Presumably Graham Greene was a good case also.
If the claim is then that 'Irish Catholic culture' is a different matter then to be sure these are irrelevant to its field.
Separately I agree that Irish-American as a case of Irish is always a fair topic. I watched Richard Harris in MAJOR DUNDEE (1965) this week and his US Confederate prisoner, facing the gallows, with an Irish accent, seemed to me a version of an Irish rebel prisoner of 1867 or so.
― the pinefox, Thursday, 30 August 2018 08:28 (five years ago) link
an artist (not a priest or theologian) whose work is not mainly 'about' Catholicism, priests, churches, etc, but which one can I think fairly plausibly see as 'imbued' with it, reference to it, etc.
Sounds like Muriel Spark to me. Both her and Greene converts, of course - which may be a different kind of 'Cultural Catholicism' from Scorcese's, who was born into it.
― Ward Fowler, Thursday, 30 August 2018 08:42 (five years ago) link
thought- does 'roman' trump italian/irish for what we're trying to get at? think theres a case that it does
― lee guacamole (darraghmac), Thursday, 30 August 2018 09:43 (five years ago) link
https://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/food-and-drink/brexit-stockpile-favourite-foods-you-might-not-know-are-british-1.3735188 this piece REALLY fucked me off.
Who the fuck in Ireland is buying Hovis sliced pan?! The bread is so much better at home!
― gyac, Tuesday, 18 December 2018 20:58 (five years ago) link
aye but you cannae beat a tunnocks tea cake
― ( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 18 December 2018 21:05 (five years ago) link
I would dispute them being biscuits, also I prefer Tunnocks wafers to the cake!
― gyac, Tuesday, 18 December 2018 21:12 (five years ago) link
yeah it's not really a biscuit i must admit.
I'm from the town they're made in so I'm a big booster of tunnocks products
― ( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 18 December 2018 21:16 (five years ago) link
we wont be short of tunnocks while theres a lidl in the parish
― gabbnebulous (darraghmac), Tuesday, 18 December 2018 21:16 (five years ago) link
stan hard for tunnocks myself but the east coast bakehouse cookies mentioned are really good
― gabbnebulous (darraghmac), Tuesday, 18 December 2018 21:25 (five years ago) link
I don’t know them but I would choose Polo (normal or chocolate) or chocolate Kimberleys or mikado biscuits I’ve 99% of British biscuits
― gyac, Tuesday, 18 December 2018 21:32 (five years ago) link
look we need a nom(ination) thread before we could even poll
chocolate digestive man meself
anything by fox even tho they are disgustingly sweet obv
― gabbnebulous (darraghmac), Tuesday, 18 December 2018 21:35 (five years ago) link
(goldgrain are nicer than mcvities digestives nowadays)
Nomination poll for what? British or Irish biscuits? Biscuits of these isles
― gyac, Tuesday, 18 December 2018 21:37 (five years ago) link
B.Is.cuits
― gabbnebulous (darraghmac), Tuesday, 18 December 2018 21:39 (five years ago) link
controversailte
― gyac, Tuesday, 18 December 2018 21:40 (five years ago) link
now we might think of it.....
you dont...see many ....orange biscuits?
― gabbnebulous (darraghmac), Tuesday, 18 December 2018 21:43 (five years ago) link
So sure l'm an orange biscuitman, from Erin's shelves I came
― gyac, Tuesday, 18 December 2018 21:49 (five years ago) link
the stash my father stored
― gabbnebulous (darraghmac), Tuesday, 18 December 2018 21:52 (five years ago) link
it is round and it is crumblythe taste is just divine
― gyac, Tuesday, 18 December 2018 21:53 (five years ago) link
Lol that article knows it's nonsense. Food in England is terrible, despite all that guardian "we've come a long way since rationing" smugness. The Sainsbury's by my house permanently looks like a scene from 28 days later and I've never seen a ripe banana in a shop in London. "Decent food" just means small portions.
― plax (ico), Wednesday, 19 December 2018 06:34 (five years ago) link
What is fever tree tonic water?
Also, since it would be an almost total market loss for Lyons tea, wouldn't Unilever just shift production back to Ireland?
― plax (ico), Wednesday, 19 December 2018 06:37 (five years ago) link
Tonic water with a higher price point than Schweppes. Comes in a variety of flavours, pretty nice, seems to have saturation coverage in some tube stations.
You’d imagine so; either that or just slap some labels on some other tea brands...
― gyac, Wednesday, 19 December 2018 07:57 (five years ago) link
I prefer Schweppes, it is fizzier, but Fever Tree seems to be hugely popular.
There is lots of good food in England - I wouldn't hold giant chain supermarkets up as an example of anything even if their foreign equivalents are a little better.
London has a wide range of independent businesses selling good food at p much every price range. Again, if you want to extrapolate from whatever set of choices you force yourself to ensure, ie shopping at a crap Sainsburys instead of a corner shop or a better supermarket then that is your choice.
Even from branch to branch the chain supermarkets vary and there are some notoriously awful ones, most of the small "local" ones are a crime against food and cooking and I'd use a corner shop any time instead.
― FernandoHierro, Wednesday, 19 December 2018 08:24 (five years ago) link
endure*
As for "decent food just means small portions"
If you really think this you prob should go to Chinatown, Green Lanes, Kingsland Road, etc.
Or a few hundred other places.
― FernandoHierro, Wednesday, 19 December 2018 08:29 (five years ago) link
Post unfairly slept on imo. In the World Foods section in my local Morrisons, Irish is sandwiched between Polish and Mediterranean.
― It's Beginning to Look a Lot Like Christ (Tom D.), Wednesday, 19 December 2018 10:36 (five years ago) link
North London? The London Irish centre in Camden recently opened an Irish shop and they have Polo biscuits so I might have to go there.
So... we’ve got some news 👀 pic.twitter.com/RsZv4wJFog— London Irish Centre (@LDNIrishCentre) November 21, 2018
― gyac, Wednesday, 19 December 2018 10:41 (five years ago) link
Seems like most white people over 65 in my area are either Irish or Cypriot so Morrison's on the ball there.
― It's Beginning to Look a Lot Like Christ (Tom D.), Wednesday, 19 December 2018 10:43 (five years ago) link
Being in the post office in Holloway Rd on a weekday morning is almost indistinguishable from any random Irish provincial town. You can almost hear the rattling of the seandaoine’s rosary beads.
― gyac, Wednesday, 19 December 2018 10:48 (five years ago) link
theres an argument, and youd know better than i obv, that its moreso
― gabbnebulous (darraghmac), Wednesday, 19 December 2018 11:22 (five years ago) link
are you calling me a culchie
― gyac, Wednesday, 19 December 2018 11:27 (five years ago) link
ya sure why not
― gabbnebulous (darraghmac), Wednesday, 19 December 2018 11:30 (five years ago) link
https://ui.assets-asda.com/dm/asdagroceries/3017760363396_T1?defaultImage=asdagroceries/noImageAvailable&resMode=sharp2&id=0RHSV2&fmt=jpg > https://centra.ie/thumbnail/400x400/var/files/brandbank/5391517593044-2676-0ffb60-Jacob-s-Mikado-250g.jpg imo
(runs Zoidberg-style out of Irish biscuit thread)
(I do like a Kimberley though)
(I bet those images don't even work anyway. in fact I probably won't even know, since images don't show up for me on ilx any more even if I log out. maybe that's true for everyone else too. in which case, the first line should read "LU Mikado aka French Pocky > pink fluffy Jacobs Mikado imo")
also aren't those Northern Irish Taytos in that pic? I await someone being offended by that. I'd really like a Club Orange now thanks btw
― a passing spacecadet, Wednesday, 19 December 2018 12:28 (five years ago) link
morelike tattoos amirite
what is that imposter mikado
― gabbnebulous (darraghmac), Wednesday, 19 December 2018 14:19 (five years ago) link
I switched Siri over to an Irish accent and now she pronounces my sisters name correctly so that's my bit for the thread
― gbx, Thursday, 20 December 2018 01:46 (five years ago) link
Now that you've dazzled the yanks with your Irish biscuits, it's time to baffle them entirely with your Christmas crackers.
― A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 20 December 2018 02:15 (five years ago) link
went for a little drive around my beautiful county of donegal today and took a few snaps pic.twitter.com/WhaGZGuCbq— Ireland / Patrick (@ireland) December 21, 2018
pic.twitter.com/9aYrxKffQ3— Ireland / Patrick (@ireland) December 20, 2018
i'm a big history buff so its great to go back and look at old photos of ireland and famous irish people.do you have any favourite old photos? i found this one of former taoiseach michael collins pic.twitter.com/hYPn0V1sdk— Ireland / Patrick (@ireland) December 18, 2018
Best curator since your man that did the ‘Churchill is a cunt’ thread!
― gyac, Saturday, 22 December 2018 09:58 (five years ago) link
hes pure irish and thats a fact
― gabbnebulous (darraghmac), Saturday, 22 December 2018 11:19 (five years ago) link
1980s ESB Advert - Going home. Those of you who are old enough should remember this. This is an ad broadcast in Ireland in the late 80s and early 90s. For some reason everyone always seems to remember it. Enjoy. pic.twitter.com/VDQcJmjQPc— Rare Irish Stuff (@RareIrishStuff) December 23, 2018
Honestly well up watching this, it’s so dated but captures the emigrant Christmas so well (even down to my mammy and the electric blanket!)
― gyac, Monday, 24 December 2018 13:15 (five years ago) link
stop im not able
― gabbnebulous (darraghmac), Monday, 24 December 2018 20:20 (five years ago) link
Lol awful
― plax (ico), Tuesday, 25 December 2018 00:05 (five years ago) link
Makes me want to stay put
― plax (ico), Tuesday, 25 December 2018 00:11 (five years ago) link
Any of ye watch Jayo?
― gyac, Sunday, 30 December 2018 22:54 (five years ago) link
nah is a dub thing rly
― topical mlady (darraghmac), Sunday, 30 December 2018 22:59 (five years ago) link
It was good tbf.
― ShariVari, Sunday, 30 December 2018 23:02 (five years ago) link
“tbf” says the guy who’d never heard of him!
xp it was really good!
― gyac, Sunday, 30 December 2018 23:11 (five years ago) link
ok ok its on the list
― topical mlady (darraghmac), Monday, 31 December 2018 00:24 (five years ago) link
Jayo?
― plax (ico), Monday, 31 December 2018 01:29 (five years ago) link
boom boom boom
― Number None, Monday, 31 December 2018 02:06 (five years ago) link
Give Google a try - is probably available somewhere in London
― FernandoHierro, Monday, 31 December 2018 02:35 (five years ago) link
Jayo is huge right now in New Cross
― FernandoHierro, Monday, 31 December 2018 02:36 (five years ago) link
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jayo_Felony ?
― plax (ico), Monday, 31 December 2018 10:44 (five years ago) link
Has anyone else got that passport card and is it actually accepted in other countries? I want one but have nightmares of turning up at some airport and then going “what is this”
― gyac, Monday, 14 January 2019 13:11 (five years ago) link
I didnt even know there was a passport card tbh!
― . (Michael B), Monday, 14 January 2019 13:24 (five years ago) link
It looks really handy and I want one but I don’t want to buy it if I can’t use it!
― gyac, Monday, 14 January 2019 13:27 (five years ago) link
ive no idea but can ask
― topical mlady (darraghmac), Monday, 14 January 2019 13:49 (five years ago) link
i quote an actual passport/immigration officer of ill repute of my acquaintance:
"It’s real alright. I have one for about 2 years but have yet to use it. Always use the passport as I fear some foreign immigration officer will laugh me out of it"
so yeah.
― topical mlady (darraghmac), Monday, 14 January 2019 14:06 (five years ago) link
Lol ty immigration officer. If she/he is one of the people who says “welcome home” at Dublin airport please pass on my thanks as well.
― gyac, Monday, 14 January 2019 14:07 (five years ago) link
oh hes far beyant it now that fella. off to join some embassy in next few months, has put "nowhere that kills me for being gay pls" on his forms so fingers crossed for the lad eh.
― topical mlady (darraghmac), Monday, 14 January 2019 14:12 (five years ago) link
omg! Good luck to him!
― gyac, Monday, 14 January 2019 14:14 (five years ago) link
this approach actually has worked for previous lgbt+ officers of our mutual so yknow even amidst bureaucracy theres ways and means.
this fella and i have somehow hopped around together across the past four or five depts starting with actually stuffing envelopes in the ill-fated (feted) household charge.
hes def the second most likely person i know to be a spy after sv- dashing six footer, double history masters, learning diplomatic french from alliance francaises in the evenings around his international policy masters and knows exactly which tds used to frequent that bathhouse on the quays
not utterly spoiled by being a fanatical blackburn fan but ive often advised him to tone it down at interview
― topical mlady (darraghmac), Monday, 14 January 2019 14:21 (five years ago) link
Any chance of a webmail re the quays?!
I’ve never met an Irish Blackburn fan, literally whyyyy
Did ye ever benefit from the free cheese protests?
― gyac, Monday, 14 January 2019 14:25 (five years ago) link
1: he never even breathed a word to me save the one name youd actually expect, and all stopped well before greatness
2: has to be from a cousin that remembers 95, thats the only thing ive ever heard attributed
3: lol we were somewhere else entirely, it was all a sting operation. no badges, no insignia, lecarre aint got shit on us type stuff til the day we had a fire in the print room and the bauld lads of dublin fire brigade threw the offending item out of the fourth floor window and covered all of d7 in our headed paper
five full time staff and three hundred agency ppl sorting forms and data entry in a secret building in the city centre tho, it was great apart from the dogshit youd find in the odd envelope. its where i came across the gaeilgeoir donkey for a start.
ah good times
― topical mlady (darraghmac), Monday, 14 January 2019 14:31 (five years ago) link
v disappointed to hear that supermacs may be going global. what will be left to visit once the last pathetic scraps of parochial nostalgia have been debased by relentless availability. That sneaky supermacs in eyre square while steeling myself for my parents house will seem colder comfort than ever.
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/jan/15/mcdonalds-loses-big-mac-trademark-legal-battle-supermacs
I appreciate that this may be a "galway" thing.
― plax (ico), Tuesday, 15 January 2019 19:17 (five years ago) link
Supermacs is much appreciated in the midlands as a source of excellent chicken, and fights outside it are an institution. Choco cones if they still do them are amazing.
― gyac, Tuesday, 15 January 2019 19:21 (five years ago) link
you can't export the vibe in the Eyre Square outlet at 3 am on a Saturday plax
some things refuse to be commodified
― Number None, Tuesday, 15 January 2019 19:21 (five years ago) link
they were in nyc with years i posted it here for dayo
― topical mlady (darraghmac), Tuesday, 15 January 2019 19:21 (five years ago) link
chicken breast sandwich is the best burger
― topical mlady (darraghmac), Tuesday, 15 January 2019 19:22 (five years ago) link
agreed
― Number None, Tuesday, 15 January 2019 19:23 (five years ago) link
I don’t think I’ve ever had their burgers, chicken mainly and I have fond memories of the pizza from secondary school.
― gyac, Tuesday, 15 January 2019 19:23 (five years ago) link
a supermac is outrageously expensive iirc
― plax (ico), Tuesday, 15 January 2019 19:28 (five years ago) link
i'm always like "how much?"
the meal man the meal
curry chips are great too
― topical mlady (darraghmac), Tuesday, 15 January 2019 19:39 (five years ago) link
curry chips are decent but not Four Lanterns (the global standard) level
onion rings are acceptable iirc
― Number None, Tuesday, 15 January 2019 19:41 (five years ago) link
four lights double chicken burger cheese springsteen write a song
― topical mlady (darraghmac), Tuesday, 15 January 2019 19:46 (five years ago) link
Outside Westminster this morning, a Brexiteer told me Ireland’s biggest problem is “You have a man who’s adopted Ireland and he’s far fonder of the EU than he is of Ireland.” When I asked who he meant, he confirmed he meant the Taoiseach.“He’s as Irish as I am,” I said.— Donal O'Keeffe (@Donal_OKeeffe) February 5, 2019
Not top ten or anything but I get so annoyed at having to defend Leo, who I’d never have a good word to say about otherwise, because of shit like this.
― gyac, Tuesday, 5 February 2019 18:25 (five years ago) link
leos fine for what leo is and yeah i get what you mean, in the current climate on foreign affairs he just has to show up to look great in comparison rly
― ɪmˈpəʊzɪŋ (darraghmac), Tuesday, 5 February 2019 18:30 (five years ago) link
Lookit I don’t want to make this difficult like but
...
are you a blueshirt?
― gyac, Tuesday, 5 February 2019 18:32 (five years ago) link
Like I think he’s awful on basically every domestic issue going and I would never vote for him or FG ever, so he falls a far way below ok for me! But the second some cunt tries to slag him off cos his da is Indian...
― gyac, Tuesday, 5 February 2019 18:34 (five years ago) link
for what he is!
one hates to be so gauche as to but i argue against everyone and vote lab as a rule
also lol you love to make it difficult but its never a prob sure
― ɪmˈpəʊzɪŋ (darraghmac), Tuesday, 5 February 2019 18:56 (five years ago) link
FG presiding over the accidental end of partition is Nixon in China stuff and I await the opera.
― 29 facepalms, Tuesday, 5 February 2019 19:13 (five years ago) link
xp this is true, it’s a character deficit of mine (one of many)
As someone from a traditionally FG family I am v relieved
― gyac, Tuesday, 5 February 2019 19:27 (five years ago) link
our lot are ff but god help us no child of the 80s onwards follows that pls god
― ɪmˈpəʊzɪŋ (darraghmac), Tuesday, 5 February 2019 19:28 (five years ago) link
And yet still they persevere.
― gyac, Tuesday, 5 February 2019 19:31 (five years ago) link
ive come along rapidly to the "it could be a lot worse" kinda thinking looking around yknow
also....i mean, ran the cumann ff family if we're conffessing
― ɪmˈpəʊzɪŋ (darraghmac), Tuesday, 5 February 2019 19:41 (five years ago) link
👀👀👀👀
― gyac, Tuesday, 5 February 2019 19:48 (five years ago) link
So, that Karen Bradley eh?
Honestly amazed at how I’ve gone from “the North should decide what it wants for itself” to “UNITE IRELAND NOW” in like a relatively short period?
I had a fight with my parents about this recently and our perspectives might as well be miles apart now.
― gyac, Thursday, 7 March 2019 10:03 (five years ago) link
with apologies to gyac for bumping other thread with this:
we'll talk about it in here so i spose
the statement by SoS for NI made to the house of commons yesterday is not just a resigning matter but should be an international scandal the scale of which should see ambassadors, foreign ministers and idk any human rights, justice or military union either country is involved in involved and investigating as a priority
its not as important as internal labour party intrigue obv but hey this is probably a good reminder that yknow countries really should rule themselves
― god knows i want to fp (darraghmac), Thursday, 7 March 2019 12:36 (four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― god knows i want to fp (darraghmac), Thursday, 7 March 2019 12:42 (five years ago) link
its absolutely true tho about becoming a republican all of a sudden!
not just this but a few accumulated bits and pieces, brexit and tories being tories i guess are central
― god knows i want to fp (darraghmac), Thursday, 7 March 2019 12:44 (five years ago) link
It's almost as if NI has always been a bad faith pretence of a country that's ignored by the English unless there's some political advantage wants milking
― Mike Skeavee (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 7 March 2019 12:54 (five years ago) link
are you...Hibernosplaining
― gyac, Thursday, 7 March 2019 12:55 (five years ago) link
lol hes not wrong maybe
i dont usually feel like a naif but i mean oof
― god knows i want to fp (darraghmac), Thursday, 7 March 2019 12:58 (five years ago) link
re thread, I was mostly joking, níl aon fadhb again leat i ndairíre...
― gyac, Thursday, 7 March 2019 13:01 (five years ago) link
ffs first ilx fucks up my attempt to post itt and then autocorrect does too, now I know how Wolfe Tone felt
― gyac, Thursday, 7 March 2019 13:03 (five years ago) link
lollllz
― god knows i want to fp (darraghmac), Thursday, 7 March 2019 13:17 (five years ago) link
It's a fair cop, just wanted to acknowledge this week's shitshow tbh
― Mike Skeavee (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 7 March 2019 13:22 (five years ago) link
Now I know how Wolfe Tone felt, now I know how Wolfe Tone felt,As the blade rose to his proddy throat and he drained all his heeeealth
― gyac, Thursday, 7 March 2019 13:23 (five years ago) link
Patriotism is not my natural reaction when I see what is happening in the UK.
― FernandoHierro, Thursday, 7 March 2019 13:41 (five years ago) link
im not sure anyone is advocating blind patriotism as opposed to reminding ourselves of the merits of home rule
― god knows i want to fp (darraghmac), Thursday, 7 March 2019 13:59 (five years ago) link
any support for that feels fairly theoretical or abstract to me i suppose - i don't know what steps would have to happen for a united ireland or whether i would want them to happen.
― FernandoHierro, Thursday, 7 March 2019 14:04 (five years ago) link
Yeah that seems like an odd take considering the tone of the respective posts.
― gyac, Thursday, 7 March 2019 14:09 (five years ago) link
well i felt relatively confident in darragh's ability to have a discussion
― FernandoHierro, Thursday, 7 March 2019 14:11 (five years ago) link
I'm sure a post-Brexit uk government will take a strong line on protecting the human rights of all of its citizens
― Mike Skeavee (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 7 March 2019 14:13 (five years ago) link
xp honestly just killfile me, it doesn’t have to be like this. I’d certainly never mind seeing a reply from you again.
― gyac, Thursday, 7 March 2019 14:14 (five years ago) link
As I ever, autocorrect owns me. I’d certainly never mind NOT...
― gyac, Thursday, 7 March 2019 14:15 (five years ago) link
lads!
― god knows i want to fp (darraghmac), Thursday, 7 March 2019 14:19 (five years ago) link
i will never killfile anyone tbh. i am happy for people to discuss things here as long as it doesn't become meta or personal.
― FernandoHierro, Thursday, 7 March 2019 14:22 (five years ago) link
the question of a 32 county republic is much more on the table as a result of the actions of the dup and tories this past two years, its a natural topic
i now think it will happen in my lifetime, and i wouldn't be particularly surprised to see it happen in the next twenty years
what the unionist minority sop could look like under any such move is hard to imagine, but then so were the strides from 94 onwards and so would have been the gaffes and missteps of doddsy and may et al recently
― god knows i want to fp (darraghmac), Thursday, 7 March 2019 14:23 (five years ago) link
xp then just don’t bother responding to my posts if you’re unable to bring yourself from calling me “unreasonable” or whatever. If you must take the worst possible interpretation of things I write & then fall back on sneering when I react to your interpretation of things I never said, there’s really no point in us interacting, ever.
― gyac, Thursday, 7 March 2019 14:26 (five years ago) link
xp I don’t see it in my lifetime, but I said that about abortion.
For me I think much more about Catholics north of the border now, and what their lives are like, and the past three years just make me really angry for their lived experience of this shit. I get what some of them mean when they say that Ireland abandoned them, is what I’m trying to say.
― gyac, Thursday, 7 March 2019 14:28 (five years ago) link
i guess it feels like a lot of things are in flight at the moment, instability makes many things feel up for grabs, but what i meant upthread was that for me although i sort of am sympathetic to the idea of a united ireland it feels like the things that would lead to it are potentially fairly sinister, eg a hard brexit or whatever. i can't easily separate the thing itself from the events that are most likely to lead to it.
besides i suppose the usual demographic slide 'it'll happen eventually' idea which has always been around i guess. i mean even reading the stuff today about the anti-eu irish republicans is fairly disturbing. so many things feel like a roll of the dice at the moment.
xpost i didn't respond to your post. you targeted me as doing so. seriously you are just as able to attack others so don't act like a victim because i joined a discussion and didn't precisely agree with you. killfile away.
― FernandoHierro, Thursday, 7 March 2019 14:28 (five years ago) link
I would if they had killfile for Safari, but as ever I’m glad to see that my initial suspicions about you were correct, so I guess that will just have to do instead.
― gyac, Thursday, 7 March 2019 14:31 (five years ago) link
i disagreed with darragh as well itt - just get over yourself ffs, i have nothing against you whatsoever i just sometimes disagree with you, like plenty of us do with other people on here. i can post on a thread without someone defensively sneering about my opinion being an 'odd take' or whatever and then acting as if i'm the one carrying stupid grudges.
― FernandoHierro, Thursday, 7 March 2019 14:36 (five years ago) link
if ive to stop this car
― god knows i want to fp (darraghmac), Thursday, 7 March 2019 15:16 (five years ago) link
what the unionist minority sop could look like under any such move is hard to imagine
I remain convinced they'd be singing Fuck The Queen in a heartbeat if they could possibly be convinced they're ahead out of the deal, not sure how you manage it though.
― The Vangelis of Dating (Tom D.), Thursday, 7 March 2019 15:17 (five years ago) link
its a thought experiment for sure
― god knows i want to fp (darraghmac), Thursday, 7 March 2019 15:20 (five years ago) link
― gyac, Thursday, 7 March 2019 14:28 (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yeah and their lives in the sixties and early seventies before it all kicked off as a modern conflict
― FernandoHierro, Thursday, 7 March 2019 14:28 (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
again though, its not cheerleading like an aran sweater made flesh for the cause
and while its def a case of acknowledging the unideal environmental factors which are bringing the situation about, that in itself doesnt make the increased likelihood of the outcome a negative
the question of how to safeguard unionism is key
particularly when they vote in such utter fucking cunts like, i mean theyre not helping are they
― god knows i want to fp (darraghmac), Thursday, 7 March 2019 16:08 (five years ago) link
Anyone else watching Derry Girls now that it’s back? (Or is it worth a thread now that it’s on Netflix & Americans are watching it?) Loved the blackboard: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D1AHLEtX4AEuBXN.jpg
― gyac, Friday, 8 March 2019 08:37 (five years ago) link
I might be stretching to its limits my ability to be that prick, but it did seem to me that the 'dignified and appropriate' was her head skipping a line, like "these deaths were an exception to the vast majority of our brave boys which etc etc". But the "not crimes" should get her sacked anyway.
In a way (not really) it's good to have as something to point at for "This is why Europe and specifically RoI feel they need a structure to make sure that the UK actually finishes its homework on NI"
Yeah, I'd been saying (possibly on ILX, but I can't find it), that some kind of truth & reconciliation committee would seem necessary. It's be an interesting test of Ireland's view of itself. I talked to a friend who's lived in Portrush for a few years (and has family in the North), and he said that he would not expect this to work at all - that when it comes to closed-loop worldviews, the average DUP voter makes a Fox News viewer look like a wide-eyed gap student.
― Andrew Farrell, Friday, 8 March 2019 13:14 (five years ago) link
tbh i'm so much more sympathetic to, say, Arlene Foster, whose resentments seem somewhat justified by traumatic formative experiences like her father being taken out of their house and shot when she was a child than to Theresa May whose seething resentment of immigrants seems entirely fostered by having grown up sealed off from people of colour and from disadvantaged backgrounds. There are lots of people in Northern Ireland who grew up witnessing some heinous shit and in comparison the collective temper-tantrum of so many priveliged middle class brexit voters who lived through the most generous period of the welfare state seems a very false equivalence for the media to draw, and is never really registered in media discussions of the DUP-Tory marriage of convenience.
― plax (ico), Saturday, 9 March 2019 14:20 (five years ago) link
That Gavin Williamson statement is just repulsive, I’m still angry about it.
It’s just so disgusting, I thought I’d been angry about this but the stuff coming from the British government about this is sick making.
https://www.rte.ie/news/2019/0314/1036367-blood-sunday-reaction/
In a statement following the decision by Northern Ireland’s Public Prosecution Service to charge one former British soldier with the murder of civilians on Bloody Sunday in 1972, the Ministry said the British government will urgently reform the system for dealing with legacy issues.The UK’s Defence Secretary said the individual affected by the ruling will be offered full legal support.Gavin Williamson confirmed the Ministry of Defence would support 'soldier F' and pay the legal costs.
The UK’s Defence Secretary said the individual affected by the ruling will be offered full legal support.
Gavin Williamson confirmed the Ministry of Defence would support 'soldier F' and pay the legal costs.
― gyac, Thursday, 14 March 2019 16:04 (five years ago) link
its gut wrenching and sickening
when david cameron looks like a fuckin statesman in comparison then youve slunk low
― ~mine own~ bitcoin (darraghmac), Thursday, 14 March 2019 16:18 (five years ago) link
Indeed.
Corbyn said that Cameron apologising for Bloody Sunday was basically the only worthwhile thing he ever did & he wasn’t wrong.
― gyac, Thursday, 14 March 2019 16:24 (five years ago) link
"Our serving and former personnel cannot live in constant fear of prosecution."
Can too, and should.
― Uptown VONC (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 14 March 2019 16:27 (five years ago) link
would there be a case for objection to their article 50 extension ta fuck
― ~mine own~ bitcoin (darraghmac), Thursday, 14 March 2019 16:57 (five years ago) link
I’m with the mural!https://extramuralactivity.com/2017/12/09/use-the-veto-leo/
― gyac, Thursday, 14 March 2019 17:05 (five years ago) link
just realised this ISN'T an anthony thread
― plax (ico), Thursday, 14 March 2019 18:09 (five years ago) link
I'm inured to it tbh, I can't really take it personally when they're as angry about Our Heroic Boys being called to account for shite in Iraq or Afghanistan.
― Andrew Farrell, Friday, 15 March 2019 11:33 (five years ago) link
When my parents went to Ireland with my grandfather who hadn't been there in 25 years he took them to his favorite pub. When they went in a guy at the bar said "oh god he's back"— captain glasses (@online_shawn) March 17, 2019
― fremme nette his simplicitte (darraghmac), Monday, 18 March 2019 21:48 (five years ago) link
smdh at ppl who doubt this
― fremme nette his simplicitte (darraghmac), Monday, 18 March 2019 21:49 (five years ago) link
One side of the family of publicans & can confirm otm
― gyac, Monday, 18 March 2019 22:12 (five years ago) link
*is!
― gyac, Monday, 18 March 2019 22:13 (five years ago) link
(An actual American guy I met a few years ago.)Me: Your first name is 'Royal'? You would definitely be bullied in school in Ireland with a name like that. What's your surname?Him: pic.twitter.com/lI8d326Oxj— Cian McCarthy (@cianfmccarthy) March 20, 2019
― Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 21 March 2019 14:09 (five years ago) link
Lots of crossover content today!
disgusted to see the paras shooting at a picture of jeremy corbyn instead of carrying out their real duty, killing innocent people around the world— Patrick (@PrayForPatrick) April 3, 2019
Just reading about this smear test fiasco. Horrendous stuff altogether. Why hasn’t Harris resigned?
― gyac, Wednesday, 3 April 2019 19:38 (four years ago) link
Also, these stats are shocking!
Worth remembering. pic.twitter.com/M2oUmMWplt— Declan Gaffney (@djmgaffneyw4) April 3, 2019
― gyac, Wednesday, 3 April 2019 19:40 (four years ago) link
How do you not know if youve been to a country or not?
― . (Michael B), Wednesday, 3 April 2019 19:42 (four years ago) link
that's the "what's an Ireland?" option
― Number None, Wednesday, 3 April 2019 19:43 (four years ago) link
shiiiit man i could tell u stories
― fremme nette his simplicitte (darraghmac), Wednesday, 3 April 2019 19:44 (four years ago) link
is there a train tho or no?
― moose; squirrel (silby), Wednesday, 3 April 2019 19:44 (four years ago) link
"dunno if i've ever been to an island..."
― Number None, Wednesday, 3 April 2019 19:44 (four years ago) link
Giving the benefit of the doubt, people might have been unsure if they went when v young. The other side is a question I get at least once a month - “are you from Northern or Southern Ireland?”
― gyac, Wednesday, 3 April 2019 19:44 (four years ago) link
I've never been to ireland but as i am a catholic from glasgow I'm the most irish person in the world
― ( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 3 April 2019 19:45 (four years ago) link
xxp no train, and also pls ctrl+ f your name in the British politics thread for more crossover nonsense
― gyac, Wednesday, 3 April 2019 19:45 (four years ago) link
tbf I get that one from plenty of Irish people xposts
― Number None, Wednesday, 3 April 2019 19:46 (four years ago) link
I went out briefly with a Catholic from Glasgow and this is almost true, I think Liverpudlians might have ye beat.
― gyac, Wednesday, 3 April 2019 19:46 (four years ago) link
I'd like to see a pie chart of how many English people have been to Scotland tbh.
― Angry Question Time Man's Flute Club Band (Tom D.), Wednesday, 3 April 2019 19:47 (four years ago) link
Are you from a border county NN? Also, Irish who call it “Southern Ireland” are obvs soupers & not to be trusted.
― gyac, Wednesday, 3 April 2019 19:47 (four years ago) link
well, they don't say Southern Ireland, but they do say, "is Donegal in the North?"
― Number None, Wednesday, 3 April 2019 19:48 (four years ago) link
tbf I get that one from plenty of Irish people
I've several times had "So you're from Ulster then", from people from RoI.
― Angry Question Time Man's Flute Club Band (Tom D.), Wednesday, 3 April 2019 19:49 (four years ago) link
A misunderstood county! I think the role of Donegal as a scourge of generations of students in the lower three provinces is probably under discussed, plus ye are pretty remote and the train doesn’t go there.
― gyac, Wednesday, 3 April 2019 19:50 (four years ago) link
I think the role of Donegal as a scourge of generations of students in the lower three provinces is probably under discussed
oh no, that's the one thing they do know about it
― Number None, Wednesday, 3 April 2019 19:52 (four years ago) link
I mean, that’s more than most people know about my neck of the woods. At least ye have the incomprehensible Gaeilge, Enya, and a coastline.
― gyac, Wednesday, 3 April 2019 19:53 (four years ago) link
I used to go to my grans in Kerry every year. Fucking most incredibly beautiful beaches and mountains and my first experiences of pub lock ins till 3am - I still dream about the place.
― calzino, Wednesday, 3 April 2019 19:54 (four years ago) link
Did you see Fungi?
Kerry is great but I legit haven’t been in at least 15 years. Went to the races there a few times and obviously out on the ocean.
― gyac, Wednesday, 3 April 2019 19:55 (four years ago) link
usually when we got back home again t' slum in Yorkshire!
― calzino, Wednesday, 3 April 2019 19:56 (four years ago) link
I’m just trying to imagine a hybrid of a Healy-Rae style Kerry accent and a strong Yorkshire accent and it is...difficult.
― gyac, Wednesday, 3 April 2019 19:58 (four years ago) link
a great uncle of mine was at some distant relative's wedding in donegal, in whatever our ancestral town or village was, i heard this yarn about 2am at a family gathering so it's a little foggy.
he told an overly-long (for the little action in the yarn), whiskey-soaked anecdote about leaving the reception to go trudging around the cemetery in the rain to try and find the graves of ancestors. no Harleys anywhere, until he gets to the last stone ... and it's not Harley either.
"Maybe the family didn't use the name Harley then? Might have been an anglicisation used after they moved to Glasgow." I piped up.
"..."
― ( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 3 April 2019 20:00 (four years ago) link
have been to every country in the isles except Scotland tbh
― Boles to the Wolds (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 3 April 2019 20:02 (four years ago) link
monster!
― ( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 3 April 2019 20:03 (four years ago) link
i'd like to go back to ireland tbh
― gbx, Wednesday, 3 April 2019 20:03 (four years ago) link
xp i know right?
purely thru bad luck, my ex had plenty of Glasgow-based relatives
― Boles to the Wolds (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 3 April 2019 20:04 (four years ago) link
Shitloads of English people have never been to Scotland or, if they have, it's to Edinburgh.
― Angry Question Time Man's Flute Club Band (Tom D.), Wednesday, 3 April 2019 20:07 (four years ago) link
I liked Glasgow far more than Edinburgh and everyone always looks at me like I’m crazy when I say that.
My dad tells a great story about drinking in some pub in Edinburgh, which turned out to be a Hearts pub, and being forced to sing The Sash before escaping. Feel like you wouldn’t get such niceties in Glasgow.
― gyac, Wednesday, 3 April 2019 20:10 (four years ago) link
doing a two-week trip around the Highlands at the end of the month. Can't wait
(I have been to Glasgow and Edinburgh)
― Number None, Wednesday, 3 April 2019 20:11 (four years ago) link
tbf if you live in London, Paris is nearer, as is Dublin.
― Angry Question Time Man's Flute Club Band (Tom D.), Wednesday, 3 April 2019 20:11 (four years ago) link
I used to think Ireland was more futurist than England cos they drunk milk from triangular tetra pak cartons in Tralee rather than them old glass bottles that stray dogs piss against on't estate in Deighton. I need to go back there before I die, but only really got relatives in Dublin now. My dad's family remnants won't talk to me cos I snubbed his funeral - but no big loss - they are all complete cunts!
― calzino, Wednesday, 3 April 2019 20:11 (four years ago) link
Most people prefer Glasgow ime.
― Angry Question Time Man's Flute Club Band (Tom D.), Wednesday, 3 April 2019 20:12 (four years ago) link
We had glass milk bottles in my part of the country, but my family never got them & I was always jealous af, so! ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
― gyac, Wednesday, 3 April 2019 20:14 (four years ago) link
xp people who prefer Edinburgh are bloodless Lowland Scots and/or Tories, y/n?
― gyac, Wednesday, 3 April 2019 20:15 (four years ago) link
yeah glass bottles is pure posh imo
― fremme nette his simplicitte (darraghmac), Wednesday, 3 April 2019 20:15 (four years ago) link
gbx should visit with jjj imo
― fremme nette his simplicitte (darraghmac), Wednesday, 3 April 2019 20:16 (four years ago) link
I only ever encountered them visiting relatives in the Midlands
― Number None, Wednesday, 3 April 2019 20:16 (four years ago) link
xp FAP Irish edition imo
― gyac, Wednesday, 3 April 2019 20:16 (four years ago) link
Well, I am from the midlands (which everyone here tells me I mispronounce!) so...
― gyac, Wednesday, 3 April 2019 20:17 (four years ago) link
ive been lobbying long for it
i dont get into as many fights irl fyallsi
― fremme nette his simplicitte (darraghmac), Wednesday, 3 April 2019 20:17 (four years ago) link
Well, Glasgow is in the Lowlands and when I think of the Lowlands I think of Ayrshire, which is more bloodthirsty or blood-soaked than bloodless.
― Angry Question Time Man's Flute Club Band (Tom D.), Wednesday, 3 April 2019 20:17 (four years ago) link
they used to go to "the lake" on sunny days
how I pitied them
― Number None, Wednesday, 3 April 2019 20:19 (four years ago) link
never got mistaken for being on the wrong side of the border though I bet...
xp yeah fair enough, just quoting a (self hating) friend of mine from Edinburgh who always complains about being a lowland Scot
― gyac, Wednesday, 3 April 2019 20:20 (four years ago) link
edinburgh is for english people, posh students (often english), tourists staying in airbnbs so the rents are horrendous, and the poor scottish people who happen to be from edinburgh.
glasgow is for the world
― ( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 3 April 2019 20:21 (four years ago) link
OTM.
― Angry Question Time Man's Flute Club Band (Tom D.), Wednesday, 3 April 2019 20:25 (four years ago) link
curious about a compare/contrast between Americans, the English, and, say, Germans visiting Ireland.
― moose; squirrel (silby), Wednesday, 3 April 2019 20:27 (four years ago) link
give ireland back to the irish i always say
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 3 April 2019 20:28 (four years ago) link
Funny you should say that but when I was last in Ireland it was full of Americans, the English, and Germans.
― Angry Question Time Man's Flute Club Band (Tom D.), Wednesday, 3 April 2019 20:32 (four years ago) link
Every in Europe is full of Americans, the English, and Germans though.
English visiting Ireland:
THESE ROTTEN ENGLISH TOURISTS JUST ROARED ABUSE AT US THEN THREW A PIGEON’S HEAD AT US!!! WHAT THE FUCK ! pic.twitter.com/iyEhfLacwB— d3rb (@bitnch) September 22, 2018
French visiting Ireland: https://youtu.be/Mxl0UmXi8a0
― gyac, Wednesday, 3 April 2019 20:40 (four years ago) link
prefer edinburgh but then we holiday v upper middle
― fremme nette his simplicitte (darraghmac), Wednesday, 3 April 2019 20:45 (four years ago) link
Ok the gentleman with the bad trousers and bad attitude make sense but you're going to have to explain every aspect of that butter commercial xp
― moose; squirrel (silby), Wednesday, 3 April 2019 20:45 (four years ago) link
that was as explicit as sex on irish tv got til oh imma say miley ridin the babysitter in the woolly jumper
― fremme nette his simplicitte (darraghmac), Wednesday, 3 April 2019 20:51 (four years ago) link
The aul one is not his mother but is giving off that kind of energy so I want to say his dead wife’s mother who lives with them? The horse belonged to his dead wife. As deems says, the French woman is in there and the son doesn’t quite get what’s going on.
― gyac, Wednesday, 3 April 2019 21:02 (four years ago) link
when she says "you cook like a frenchman" she means he is cooking the horse for dinner, this is my truth tell me yours
― mark s, Wednesday, 3 April 2019 21:08 (four years ago) link
There is a lot going on.
A lot of classic Irish adverts have an underlying theme of people either leaving or revisiting an idyllic home life in towns and villages that are too small to keep you - remembering the local pub when you’re on the other side of the world, flying home to family at Christmas, etc. The strong implication here is that yr man is preparing to tell the family they are moving to France with his fancy woman. The kids have already kind of worked it out and mammy / dead wife’s mother, who won’t come out and say anything, is kind of passive-aggressively communicating that she knows something is up and doesn’t like where it is heading. You have that resistance to change and familial division (and foreigners tbh) butting up against its inevitably.
― ShariVari, Wednesday, 3 April 2019 21:09 (four years ago) link
I believe that is a semi obtuse last tango in Paris reference, nobody is eating the horse for fear of the death glare of his mother in law
― gyac, Wednesday, 3 April 2019 21:10 (four years ago) link
ty for tansplaining, aul one is not his own mammy cos he calls her Mrs Mack, but in the style of rural farming families she would have lived with the married couple
― gyac, Wednesday, 3 April 2019 21:12 (four years ago) link
referencing last tango in paris in a butter advert is next level
― mark s, Wednesday, 3 April 2019 21:14 (four years ago) link
with the wife dead a woman has been told off from the village matrons to ensure the men dont starve or fester
shes mainly fucked off because yerman makes his own sauce, and a fancy one at that
― fremme nette his simplicitte (darraghmac), Wednesday, 3 April 2019 21:34 (four years ago) link
look theres a lot going on were not a great ppl for the exposition
Is the point not that your man can fulfil his basic shelter and food needs and French woman can fulfil his other needs
Meanwhile mammy in law doesn’t want to live in France/a home & she saw glenroe with Miley and Fidelma last night so she knows what’s going on
― gyac, Wednesday, 3 April 2019 21:38 (four years ago) link
these foreign biddies were always at it. Nothing could sate their lust for our finest butter and menfolk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SOLus5AFqTE
― Number None, Wednesday, 3 April 2019 21:38 (four years ago) link
I mean, the men too.https://youtu.be/aSkQij6lGJ4
I’d say the spuds weren’t the only thing he was buttering.
― gyac, Wednesday, 3 April 2019 21:42 (four years ago) link
the sod is classic
i mean im not the man to ask but the kerrygold ppl rly distrust/dislike the rural irish mammy its a theme
― fremme nette his simplicitte (darraghmac), Wednesday, 3 April 2019 21:46 (four years ago) link
lads are we back to the classic thread abt irish adverts
― fremme nette his simplicitte (darraghmac), Wednesday, 3 April 2019 21:47 (four years ago) link
there was a thread?!
― gyac, Wednesday, 3 April 2019 21:48 (four years ago) link
yeah but I believe all the youtubes are dead
― Number None, Wednesday, 3 April 2019 21:48 (four years ago) link
Strong implication that the mammy in 'Andre' might get a crack whoever the young wan doesn't want, I'd say.
― Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 3 April 2019 22:05 (four years ago) link
The matching 1% don't knows in those graphs might be post-GFA "well I know I've been to a border county, and we did go out in the car..."
― Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 3 April 2019 22:07 (four years ago) link
― fremme nette his simplicitte (darraghmac), Wednesday, April 3, 2019 1:16 PM (six hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
this is a good idea, i approve of it
― gbx, Thursday, 4 April 2019 02:30 (four years ago) link
why r ye redoing my classic thread here? get ye're own ideas jeez
― plax (ico), Thursday, 4 April 2019 05:37 (four years ago) link
In Ireland we have nostalgic ads
its p easy to search
fp for anyone who mentions sally o'brien here
― plax (ico), Thursday, 4 April 2019 05:38 (four years ago) link
also pretty easy to look down ILE & see that thread was posted to last night after this discussion moved there!
― gyac, Thursday, 4 April 2019 05:43 (four years ago) link
don't try and shift the guilt
― plax (ico), Thursday, 4 April 2019 05:45 (four years ago) link
if you can't be nostalgic for the nostalgic ads thread then I don't even know...
― Number None, Thursday, 4 April 2019 06:28 (four years ago) link
well for him in london and tellin all paddy what to do
lookit now buck you have a nice brexit now and you dont be mindin us over here or what we do be at gullad
― fremme nette his simplicitte (darraghmac), Thursday, 4 April 2019 07:35 (four years ago) link
whoah! The Great Irish Famine is the next ep of In Our Time in 20 mins.
― calzino, Thursday, 4 April 2019 07:38 (four years ago) link
a little light listening hey
― fremme nette his simplicitte (darraghmac), Thursday, 4 April 2019 07:53 (four years ago) link
In Our Time, putting the Great back into the Great Irish Famine.
― Angry Question Time Man's Flute Club Band (Tom D.), Thursday, 4 April 2019 08:28 (four years ago) link
the great set of tory lads in Westminster doing a cracking job of aiding the famine shocker!
― calzino, Thursday, 4 April 2019 08:51 (four years ago) link
Famines very much in character - it was a feature, not a bug. They’re all still obsessed with the Corn Laws to this day.
― gyac, Thursday, 4 April 2019 08:54 (four years ago) link
Oh cool!
No words needed pic.twitter.com/InDTeHiW1t— James McClean (@JamesMcC_14) May 1, 2019
― gyac, Wednesday, 1 May 2019 17:51 (four years ago) link
UK looking for a new Defence Secretary.
― Ned Caligari (Tom D.), Wednesday, 1 May 2019 17:59 (four years ago) link
I've begun reading last year's Man Booker winner Milkman, still at the very beginning but it already paints a stark and complicated picture of the people of a certain time and place
― don't mock my smock or i'll clean your clock (silby), Wednesday, 1 May 2019 18:19 (four years ago) link
was lolling at someone reporting visiting the Museum of Irish Republicanism in Conway Mill and the guide says to him : “You’re very welcome. Just to remind you, we were at war with the British State, not the British people so have a good look around.”
― calzino, Sunday, 14 July 2019 15:39 (four years ago) link
Enjoyed this thread about the apartheid strikers.
35 years ago this month eleven workers in Dunnes Stores, one of Ireland’s corporate giants, refused to handle goods from apartheid South Africa and went on strike. They spent 3 years on the picket, just £21 per week. But in the end they forced the government to boycott apartheid. pic.twitter.com/QkbyL9PyGv— Ronan Burtenshaw (@ronanburtenshaw) July 29, 2019
Someone points out downthread that such action would be illegal today under anti-union legislation passed in the UK and Ireland.
― gyac, Monday, 29 July 2019 13:56 (four years ago) link
They'd be sending guys round to prise up the plaque and sending it to the scrappy in the UK.
― Arthur Lowe & Love (Tom D.), Monday, 29 July 2019 14:33 (four years ago) link
fuck, that's some righteous struggling.
― bookmarkflaglink (jim in vancouver), Monday, 29 July 2019 18:59 (four years ago) link
at least that horrible quote at the bottom reminds us of the evil and ever present threat of Marxism.
― calzino, Monday, 29 July 2019 19:27 (four years ago) link
seeing the Henry Street bit reminds me of a defunct Henry Street in Hudds where a lot of the Irish immigrants lived in squalid old-school slum overcrowded terraced houses with outdoor crappers in the early 60's which i only know of through my mum talking about them. They demolished them to build at least the 2nd or 3rd ugliest bus station in Yorkshire.
― calzino, Monday, 29 July 2019 20:04 (four years ago) link
makes it more fuckin cheeky that stephen mangan lad that time
― phil neville jacket (darraghmac), Monday, 29 July 2019 22:42 (four years ago) link
Posted for pom & others curious about pronunciation of Taoiseach. I was listening & thinking “I don’t say that <sort of dragging sound at the end of the ch I don’t know the name for> but I just listened to myself say it and I totally do. Like hearing a recording of yourself & it not sounding anything like you.https://youtu.be/-9qK_A8dRp4
― gyac, Tuesday, 10 September 2019 13:14 (four years ago) link
Actually listening again she’s a bit more phlegmy than me, but probably more correct ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
― gyac, Tuesday, 10 September 2019 13:15 (four years ago) link
I have no idea whether at my age I could restructure my vocal tract in such a way as to get that phlemigness right but I love it.
― pomenitul, Tuesday, 10 September 2019 14:06 (four years ago) link
i think to keep in mind the fact (it may of course be no fact at all but in art the construct is designed to fall away or to be concealed by the end result nest pas) that the 'ch' is well and good but it could as easily have been described as a 'gh'
the aaaauwwuuugh that calvin does the odd time might give an indication as to where the breathing is, an open gullet almost catching at the end of the emphasised nnTOIEE before the sharp 'ish' withdrawal that is rather akin to a kyokushinkai punch count
i hope that clears it up, at least as far as upper achill formal pronunciation goes. its different in newport, theyd rush it into toieeshuh which is no service to the word at all.
― theRZA the JZA and the NDB (darraghmac), Tuesday, 10 September 2019 14:25 (four years ago) link
I mean that’s the west for ye, the language is as soft as the weather
― gyac, Tuesday, 10 September 2019 14:28 (four years ago) link
said it before, said it manys the time and i could say it in each dialect but ill tell you which of the seven mawschairs on achill taught your granda béarla by the time we'd finished a pint
we had a very good thread on it once someone had posted a good site tracking the various accents
steve coogans cashelbar farmer still fills me with wonder
― theRZA the JZA and the NDB (darraghmac), Tuesday, 10 September 2019 14:32 (four years ago) link
a chara
Picking up fragments of Irish whilst browsing the UK politics thread is definitely one of the highlights of this place.
― pomenitul, Tuesday, 10 September 2019 10:07 (five hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
the “ch” sound is pronounced like you’re coughing up phlegm although regional variations may apply
― gyac, Tuesday, 10 September 2019 10:08 (five hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
anything from the c in carrot to the h in harry, really?
― theRZA the JZA and the NDB (darraghmac), Tuesday, 10 September 2019 15:26 (four years ago) link
think i might learn irish (i say this every time)
Is it not C as in carrot if you’re saying “her friend/the friends” (a cara/an cairde) and the phlegm sound is anything starting (or ending?) with a ch, eg Chaith mé, le chéile, and is a softer sound in the middle/end of words? I’ve really only spoken Irish during Irish oral practice, so I’m very out of it and I had a massive fear of doing it in class so fuck knows there’s plenty who know more than me.
― gyac, Tuesday, 10 September 2019 15:35 (four years ago) link
xp I mean same, I tried it on Duolingo for a while but life got in the way
in practice youd hear even chara pronounced along the full length of the range
go out as far as louisburgh (which yknow people totally should) and youll hear people say the 'rr' in my name as an 'L' so really ypu cant legislate you just have to enjoy the gaeilge running through everything and the gearshift in peoples nasal passages when it kicks in
― theRZA the JZA and the NDB (darraghmac), Tuesday, 10 September 2019 15:43 (four years ago) link
Reminds me, there was a guy who used to come into my work, a Mr. McCulloch, who when he pronounced his name used to really work that the -ch sound because he was probably fed up with English people getting it wrong, I felt like saying to him, "It's OK you can stop that, I'm Scottish".
― The Inner Mounting Phlegm (Tom D.), Tuesday, 10 September 2019 15:44 (four years ago) link
son of the rooster begod
― theRZA the JZA and the NDB (darraghmac), Tuesday, 10 September 2019 15:45 (four years ago) link
or boar possible
but down home we have more roosters than boars so id guess rooster
― theRZA the JZA and the NDB (darraghmac), Tuesday, 10 September 2019 15:46 (four years ago) link
Out of curiosity, are Scottish Gaelic, Welsh and/or Breton even remotely intelligible to a speaker of Irish?
― pomenitul, Tuesday, 10 September 2019 15:55 (four years ago) link
Scottish Gaelic is just an offshoot of Old Irish? As is Manx. Welsh/Breton/Cornish are Q-Celtic.
― The Inner Mounting Phlegm (Tom D.), Tuesday, 10 September 2019 15:57 (four years ago) link
Catching more than a few words of Portuguese at a time strains my ears but I can still vaguely read it despite the fact that my mother tongue is the Easternmost Romance language and Portuguese is the Westernmost. Hence my curiosity.
― pomenitul, Tuesday, 10 September 2019 16:01 (four years ago) link
Welsh and Irish don't look or sound remotely similar to me.
― The Inner Mounting Phlegm (Tom D.), Tuesday, 10 September 2019 16:05 (four years ago) link
yeah, scottish gaelic, irish gaelic and manx are similar - though not mutually intelligible and orthographically very different (especially manx).
i did a wee scottish gaelic class last year but haven't kept it up so i've forgotten everything, need to get back intae it
― Seany's too Dyche to mention (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 10 September 2019 16:09 (four years ago) link
I will tell you as an English speaker the thing that really annoys me living over here is how often I have to spell my surname - and it’s not, like, Ní Bheoláin or anything, it’s very easy to read and say. My sister and I have a theory it’s the combination of the way the consonant and vowel sounds come together - perhaps “softer” sounding than people here are used to. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I am definitely recording “a cara, a chara, ha cairde” when I get home.
― gyac, Tuesday, 10 September 2019 16:13 (four years ago) link
Interesting:
https://www.omniglot.com/language/celtic/connections/index.php
― pomenitul, Tuesday, 10 September 2019 16:14 (four years ago) link
I can recognise maybe 70% of Scottish Gaelic words if I read them but the sounds are very different to me (like spits Ulster Irish).
― gyac, Tuesday, 10 September 2019 16:14 (four years ago) link
Idk about Breton but interestingly (or not) enough Irish has some words of french origin because of the Normans.
― gyac, Tuesday, 10 September 2019 16:15 (four years ago) link
I had to google Louisburgh. Deems, do you know Blacksod bay?
― gyac, Tuesday, 10 September 2019 16:16 (four years ago) link
Interesting that this conversation about mutual intelligibility shoukd come up because I'm working with a woman from Norway and a woman from Sweden right now and they talk away to each other - one speaking in Swedish and one speaking in Norwegian.
― The Inner Mounting Phlegm (Tom D.), Tuesday, 10 September 2019 16:17 (four years ago) link
Breton is just Cornish with a French accent, they say.
― The Inner Mounting Phlegm (Tom D.), Tuesday, 10 September 2019 16:19 (four years ago) link
I recently stumbled across a TV show in Breton and was struck by how thick their French accent was. Kind of like if everyone in Ireland had (been) converted to Received Pronunciation and had no phonetic crutch to lean on when attempting to speak Irish.
― pomenitul, Tuesday, 10 September 2019 16:19 (four years ago) link
Re: Norwegian and Swedish, I've heard that their mutual intelligibility is somewhat asymmetrical. Similarly, Italian is fairly easy to follow when you speak Romanian but the opposite is by no means true.
― pomenitul, Tuesday, 10 September 2019 16:21 (four years ago) link
Re french and Irish - garçon and garsún are obvious. Supposedly seomra comes from chambre. I heard in school that the old word for church (eaglish?) is from église, though obvs we say séipéal now. Btw deems - did ye learn it as gluasteain or carr?
― gyac, Tuesday, 10 September 2019 16:31 (four years ago) link
Pom, you might find the Wikipedia page about Hiberno-English interesting.
― gyac, Tuesday, 10 September 2019 16:33 (four years ago) link
I'll check it out, thanks.
The whole 'Hibernia' (land of winter) thing is kind of weird given the weather there. But it's North of Rome, so that was apparently good enough for the Empire.
― pomenitul, Tuesday, 10 September 2019 16:36 (four years ago) link
The infamous man on the ice* winter we had a few years back, the pipes in my hometown froze & basically nobody had water (we did cos we were on a different supply, lol). But yeah, it’s a total joke.Relevant*: https://youtu.be/h3vVDUuC0yw
― gyac, Tuesday, 10 September 2019 16:43 (four years ago) link
― The Inner Mounting Phlegm (Tom D.), Tuesday, September 10, 2019 6:19 PM (thirty-nine minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
That's a bit of an oversimplification. The two, at one time, were def closer to each other than they are now. But centuries of English influence on Kernowek and French influence on Breton means a Breton speaker wouldn't necessarily understand Cornish and vice versa.
I'll be at this congress next month.
― Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 10 September 2019 17:07 (four years ago) link
Re: Norwegian and Swedish, I've heard that their mutual intelligibility is somewhat asymmetrical.
It doesn't seem like it in this particular case.
― The Inner Mounting Phlegm (Tom D.), Tuesday, 10 September 2019 17:09 (four years ago) link
Can't do much with Welsh beyond lessons about P vs Q: pen ~ ceann, pedwar ~ ceathar, and so on.
iirc the French influence is greatest on Munster Irish
― britain's secret sauce (seandalai), Tuesday, 10 September 2019 17:09 (four years ago) link
tee-zjokh
― Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 10 September 2019 17:11 (four years ago) link
tee-zjokh― Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 10 September 2019 17:11 (two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
― Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 10 September 2019 17:11 (two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
The dialects of Irish: Munster, Connaught, Ulster, Gaelscoil and R'lyeh
― britain's secret sauce (seandalai), Tuesday, 10 September 2019 17:15 (four years ago) link
t'shok. a vulcan from yon star trek
― Seany's too Dyche to mention (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 10 September 2019 17:15 (four years ago) link
Is now the right time to tell LBI I know one (1) phrase in Dutch, and I would massacre it even worse than that?
― gyac, Tuesday, 10 September 2019 17:18 (four years ago) link
If ever there was a time!
Did I do this right? https://www.speakpipe.com/voice-recorder/msg/aayp5yeqbjrzjxx8
― Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 10 September 2019 17:24 (four years ago) link
If ever there was a time!Did I do this right? https://www.speakpipe.com/voice-recorder/msg/aayp5yeqbjrzjxx8🕸
― gyac, Tuesday, 10 September 2019 17:39 (four years ago) link
Your pronunciation is way better than SV’s, put it that way.
― gyac, Tuesday, 10 September 2019 17:41 (four years ago) link
Otm (ar an airgead?)
If the Brits won't use our proper titles, we should just call Johnson the British Taoiseach.In fact, we should call the queen the Banríon.In fact (!), we should call Parliament An Dáil na Breataine. I ndáiríre (!!), níor cheart dúinn béarla a labhairt ar chor at bith!— We need to talk about Caoimhín 2.0 (@Chicken_Caoimh) September 10, 2019
From Old Irish argat (“silver”), from Proto-Celtic *argantom (compare Welsh arian), from Proto-Indo-European *h₂erǵ- (“to shine”) (compare Latin argentum (“silver”))
― gyac, Tuesday, 10 September 2019 17:46 (four years ago) link
Kind of dying a bit like this cos it’s very substitute’s bench RTÉ newsreader in slow motion
lol otm or someone from the other side that's been studying very hard
― britain's secret sauce (seandalai), Tuesday, 10 September 2019 17:47 (four years ago) link
do i know blacksod, ffs
i think i learned it cearr, cos donegal for a few years hei
― theRZA the JZA and the NDB (darraghmac), Tuesday, 10 September 2019 18:03 (four years ago) link
― gyac, Tuesday, September 10, 2019 7:41 PM (fifteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
*screenshot**print**framed on wall*
Can't let you off the hook sharing your Dutch phrase though!
― Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 10 September 2019 18:04 (four years ago) link
I’ll have to see what I can do. Any requests besides cara/cairde and Taoiseach?
― gyac, Tuesday, 10 September 2019 18:06 (four years ago) link
Tbftsv, he did once get an Irish language song featured in the guardian:https://youtu.be/BNFfDirBE6w
― gyac, Tuesday, 10 September 2019 18:07 (four years ago) link
is sharivari the other rubberbandit
― theRZA the JZA and the NDB (darraghmac), Tuesday, 10 September 2019 18:13 (four years ago) link
No but he did inspire the song Dads Best Friend
― gyac, Tuesday, 10 September 2019 18:14 (four years ago) link
Lol “Dutch”https://www.speakpipe.com/voice-recorder/msg/iwktxh702ep0uwue
― gyac, Tuesday, 10 September 2019 19:12 (four years ago) link
https://cdn.webshopapp.com/shops/57105/files/65235074/wit-brood-half.jpg
Coming right up! :-D
― Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 10 September 2019 19:30 (four years ago) link
Knowing nothing about your origin or native tongue, you sound like either a Chinese or Arabic woman speaking Dutch :)
Got you the first time though, something I can't say about many minority language peers and peeps I frequently meet who try it on. Heel goed!
― Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 10 September 2019 19:31 (four years ago) link
I learned how to say 'Is tú mo ghrá' when I was sitting in Deems' garden on a sweet pre-hurling finale evening in Baile Áth Cliath for an English lover of Irish descent, but no way I'm recording that.
― Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 10 September 2019 19:35 (four years ago) link
lol jfchttps://www.speakpipe.com/voice-recorder/msg/ry9bnelv2ucl4z0vI’m never speaking again
― gyac, Tuesday, 10 September 2019 19:36 (four years ago) link
From where I'm standing both LBI's Irish and gyac's Dutch sound impeccable. ;)
― pomenitul, Tuesday, 10 September 2019 19:36 (four years ago) link
Currently sitting in front of the TV watching Ronan Curtis and Callum O’Dowda launch shots in the very approximate direction of a Bulgarian goalkeeper so I struggle to believe my commitment to Irish culture is being questioned atm.
― ShariVari, Tuesday, 10 September 2019 19:42 (four years ago) link
you can’t pronounce madra and siopa correctly, stop embarrassing yourself please
― gyac, Tuesday, 10 September 2019 19:43 (four years ago) link
The language of *BEEP* is universal :) I've no idea what you said there Gyac, if it wasn't a string of words instead of a sentence (caught a few mentioned here!).
What is (what sounds like) 'na-kórgia'?
xp lol SV
― Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 10 September 2019 19:44 (four years ago) link
na cáirde = the friends
― gyac, Tuesday, 10 September 2019 19:44 (four years ago) link
lol sv im watchin england
― theRZA the JZA and the NDB (darraghmac), Tuesday, 10 September 2019 19:56 (four years ago) link
i'm watching a documentary about the Hittites, ftw
― a wagon to the curious (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 10 September 2019 19:57 (four years ago) link
xp i mean lolololololz obv
― theRZA the JZA and the NDB (darraghmac), Tuesday, 10 September 2019 19:58 (four years ago) link
thank you brave people with your sound clips!
I don't have any specific requests, still conceptually/anatomically troubled by https://irishpalatals.sites.ucsc.edu/getting-started/introduction/ though
― a passing spacecadet, Tuesday, 10 September 2019 21:14 (four years ago) link
i think it would be lovely to understand any of that but otoh theres a lot to be said for listening to a bit of it too, imitation is often smarter than learning or, as we'd say ourselves nura mbíonn aon ann agat ach pucín gabhair cur i lar an bpairce leis
which is a rough effort at something a roscommon man of my close acquaintance says at random times, roughly phonetically equates to nurameen ayn on oggot ak pukeen gower curry lower an parka lesh
i have no fuckin idea what it means, something about a mediocre goat i think
ok thats 101
― theRZA the JZA and the NDB (darraghmac), Tuesday, 10 September 2019 21:25 (four years ago) link
I had a teacher who said “ann” to rhyme with crown, but she was from Cork. But yeah unless you mislearn Irish for your whole childhood idk where you would start as an adult.
― gyac, Tuesday, 10 September 2019 21:28 (four years ago) link
just listening i think.
the most i ever picked up was genuinely from the likes of gift grub, something i found funny that more dropped snippets in that were tantalisingly close to comprehensible and obviously worth chasing for meaning.
after that its again snippets like the saying above or what an aul fella might drop into conversation down home where you like the roll of it or whatever.
id have to learn the grammar basics again, the vocab would come but id never fear the pronunciation at all tbh, its almost entirely interpretive as far as i can tell from the many moves growing up
― theRZA the JZA and the NDB (darraghmac), Tuesday, 10 September 2019 21:32 (four years ago) link
see I’m the opposite, but that’s not really surprising I guess cos you probably grew up with more exposure to the language in daily life than me? I’d be fine with verbs and grammar but if you asked me to read something out unprepared or formulate a sentence or argument in my head, I’d get totally tongue tied. It’s really strange because I sort of did mini immersion while I was studying for the oral and I would dream in Irish, my thoughts would be in it too, and it sounded like music in my thoughts and from my mouth and yet, and yet, and yet. I never had this trouble with french ffs.
― gyac, Tuesday, 10 September 2019 21:36 (four years ago) link
listening is good in theory but everyone speaks too fast! I guess there's probably something simple and slowable on the internet
(flashbacks to weddings/funerals where I'm clutching the order of service and looking for vaguely similar words in a line of a call&response prayer half a page above the one everyone else is actually reading out, hoping any nearby old ladies aren't outraged that I'm not even opening my mouth)
dmac I have no idea what that means and still less after asking Google Translate but I am all for sayings involving goats
― a passing spacecadet, Tuesday, 10 September 2019 21:40 (four years ago) link
this is me ever since they changed mass & idk what the fuck is happening anymore
― gyac, Tuesday, 10 September 2019 21:52 (four years ago) link
never really immersed tbh, theres a few spots on the island but never any of mine.
aps that aspirationally translates to "if all you have is a scrawny goat, put it in the middle of the market"
he never told me what it meant but it danced when he said it which i feel is the main thing
― theRZA the JZA and the NDB (darraghmac), Tuesday, 10 September 2019 21:55 (four years ago) link
am going to be on islay in a couple weeks, might get to hear some goidelic vocables
― Seany's too Dyche to mention (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 10 September 2019 23:03 (four years ago) link
can someone who knows a bit more about it fill me in on one aspect of the emma de souza case? No article I've read mentions the reasons why the home office is pursuing this in court. A few have mentioned "brexit" but I'm not really following the logic. It seems to have something about asserting domestic law over allowing say the ECJ to have jurisdiction over half the population and therefore over NI? Is this correct?
― plax (ico), Wednesday, 11 September 2019 21:37 (four years ago) link
emma de souza case bit confusing to me but the reason the home office is pursuing it in court is because ... they don't like immigration and people appealing immigration decisions in court?
― Seany's too Dyche to mention (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 11 September 2019 21:49 (four years ago) link
i think its a basic split motivation between the ECJ jurisdiction argument and a simple rejection of the "self identification" of nationality
presumably the underlying driver boils down to "call yourself what you like but NI is british"
― theRZA the JZA and the NDB (darraghmac), Wednesday, 11 September 2019 22:01 (four years ago) link
Emma de Souza is an Irish citizen from NI who has never held British citizenship. On this basis, her status as an EU citizen means she can have her (non-EU) husband live with her in NI. However the home office considers her a British citizen, even though this contravenes the provisions in the GFA for all people from NI to be Irish, British, or both. At least that’s how I understand it.https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/derry-woman-is-british-until-she-renounces-citizenship-tribunal-told-1.4013861
― gyac, Wednesday, 11 September 2019 22:05 (four years ago) link
the brits consider someone born in the NI automatically british unless they renounce their citizenship it seems
― Seany's too Dyche to mention (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 11 September 2019 22:06 (four years ago) link
Even if they do not consider themselves British or even to have held said citizenship.
― gyac, Wednesday, 11 September 2019 22:08 (four years ago) link
wonder if after brexit an irish citizen from NI would even be able to sponsor a spouse to live in NI.
― Seany's too Dyche to mention (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 11 September 2019 22:15 (four years ago) link
i can basically never move back to the uk on the basis of being in a ltr - soon to be a marriage - with a non-eu citizen and being broke as fuck so I'm definitely sympathetic to this case, hope it works out for them
― Seany's too Dyche to mention (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 11 September 2019 22:17 (four years ago) link
if this upcoming second marriage of mine fails like the last one I'm high-tailing it home before i can fall in love with another canadian
― Seany's too Dyche to mention (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 11 September 2019 22:18 (four years ago) link
Seems wise
― president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Thursday, 12 September 2019 00:25 (four years ago) link
okay thanks for (sorta) clarification. You're kindof saying what I understood the case to be, its just weird to me that the Home Office have such latitude to take an action so aggressively undermining of the GFA. At least when number 10 does it there's an impetus that kindof makes sense. This seems way off the leash, but then comments by the migration minister (!) sortof show that this is a p uncontroversial within central government. Anyway, well done this lady.
― plax (ico), Thursday, 12 September 2019 05:31 (four years ago) link
She has won three cases against the home office so far iirc. I assume the home office does act within the remit of no 10’s knowledge though? Notable that the challenges have been going on for four years and that Theresa May would have been the Home Secretary signing off on the initial one.It’s a fucking awful case
The legal wrangle is now entering it’s fourth year. For the first two years, we lost our Freedom of Movement. The UK Home Office retained Jake’s passport with no legislative authority or policy to do-so. With these restrictions, Jake was unable to leave the country and had to turn down opportunities for work. The highest price, however, was losing the last two years of his grandmother’s life. Every request to see Jake’s grandmother in her progressively deteriorating condition was denied. When she passed away at home in Los Angeles, Jake’s request to attend the funeral was denied. It was only after increased media pressure that the Home Office eventually relented- couriering Jake’s passport back to us and allowing him a belated farewell to his late grandmother; a bitter-sweet farewell mired by remorse for not having been afforded an opportunity to say goodbye.
― gyac, Thursday, 12 September 2019 06:28 (four years ago) link
And this too:
Most troubling though is that our experience is not unique, but rather a window into a much deeper and wider issue occurring across our society. The reality being felt by myself and many in our community is that there is a price on Irish identity. A personal price that leaves many questioning what our identity is truly worth. A process referred to as Renunciation of British Citizenship is offered by the UK Home Office as a solution, but what does it really entail?Firstly, the form is a legal document that begins with a declaration; “I am a British citizen”It also requires substantial evidence to prove you have British citizenship. Birth in Northern Ireland constitutes automatic British citizenship for those seeking to realize their EU rights. For those renouncing, it is considered insufficient evidence of British citizenship. Considering that many individuals choosing this route do not consider themselves British in the first place, it can be an emotionally arduous process.In addition, the process also costs £372!! No small fee for renouncing a citizenship which under the GFA should be entirely optional. There should be no levy on an Irish person to be recognised as Irish to live on our island! Anyone taking this route will also lose Freedom of Movement for up to 6 months while the Home Office processes your application.Then there’s the uncertainty; nobody knows what the ramifications of renouncing are. In a recent case, the Home Office went so far as to question the residency rights of a citizen who had renounced their British citizenship. There is a very real possibility that going forward, anyone else choosing to renounce may be exposed to further impedance of their right to remain in their home. There’s also concern about the rights of the wider family as a whole, and the effect renouncing may have on them.
Firstly, the form is a legal document that begins with a declaration; “I am a British citizen”
It also requires substantial evidence to prove you have British citizenship. Birth in Northern Ireland constitutes automatic British citizenship for those seeking to realize their EU rights. For those renouncing, it is considered insufficient evidence of British citizenship. Considering that many individuals choosing this route do not consider themselves British in the first place, it can be an emotionally arduous process.
In addition, the process also costs £372!! No small fee for renouncing a citizenship which under the GFA should be entirely optional. There should be no levy on an Irish person to be recognised as Irish to live on our island! Anyone taking this route will also lose Freedom of Movement for up to 6 months while the Home Office processes your application.
Then there’s the uncertainty; nobody knows what the ramifications of renouncing are. In a recent case, the Home Office went so far as to question the residency rights of a citizen who had renounced their British citizenship. There is a very real possibility that going forward, anyone else choosing to renounce may be exposed to further impedance of their right to remain in their home. There’s also concern about the rights of the wider family as a whole, and the effect renouncing may have on them.
― gyac, Thursday, 12 September 2019 06:31 (four years ago) link
On the train back from Cork and looking forward to this person getting on to find their reserved seat. pic.twitter.com/hsX4LxPcp5— Conor Wilson (@ConorWilson) September 16, 2019
― gyac, Tuesday, 17 September 2019 12:52 (four years ago) link
:D
― a wagging to the furious (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 17 September 2019 12:53 (four years ago) link
I think I know him.
― Let them eat Pfifferlinge an Schneckensauce (Tom D.), Tuesday, 17 September 2019 12:54 (four years ago) link
Lmao
― Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 17 September 2019 12:55 (four years ago) link
if his first name's Daniel i definitely know the cunt
― a wagging to the furious (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 17 September 2019 12:57 (four years ago) link
thank you to my friends for booking my train seat pic.twitter.com/ZG3UAxmuYN— 𝕭𝖚𝖈𝕶𝖋𝖆𝖘𝖙 𝕾𝖔𝖈𝖎𝖆𝖑𝖎𝖘𝖙 (@dgahk) September 16, 2019
― gyac, Tuesday, 17 September 2019 13:04 (four years ago) link
hilarious guys
ye might quit tittering at the back there and realise that this is very common in my country, to allocate a secondary family name across the surname to differentiate from other cadet branches of a clan who may be particularly thickly laid out in any given area
in kerry youd get a differentiating string of grandparent names, so that a thos. o'sullivan would be known locally as tommy-paddy-mary, no surname required at all
midwest there's nothing unusual about hearing an entire unit as the rowty-kilbanes or the pheggy-kilbanes
its the latter usage here, and all youre seeing is the truncated identification utilising an honoured tradition, most likely its just john o'donnell, of the useless cunt o'donnells, postman would know him as johnny useless cunt and the barman/undertaker wouldnt know him at all unless you asked for john-mhaire-tim-bán.
the taxman has never heard of him
― provisional ilx (darraghmac), Tuesday, 17 September 2019 13:08 (four years ago) link
Otm. This is why we’ve never needed postcodes!
― gyac, Tuesday, 17 September 2019 13:11 (four years ago) link
sher if we'd a had postcodes the brits woulda found us
― provisional ilx (darraghmac), Tuesday, 17 September 2019 13:12 (four years ago) link
Countries very much in character
The Hail Mary has been voted Ireland's favourite prayer at the National Ploughing Championships https://t.co/QrlsCurn2Z— RTÉ News (@rtenews) September 19, 2019
― gyac, Thursday, 19 September 2019 17:28 (four years ago) link
confiteor topped the sight and sound poll but you can't put the culture into culchie
― provisional ilx (darraghmac), Thursday, 19 September 2019 18:28 (four years ago) link
(xp) Came here to post that!
― Let them eat Pfifferlinge an Schneckensauce (Tom D.), Friday, 20 September 2019 07:10 (four years ago) link
I can understand the logic - it’s the fastest & even more so in Irish
― gyac, Friday, 20 September 2019 08:09 (four years ago) link
"Sure lookit" is hard to define exactly but "that's disappointing and you're not wrong but even though the world isn't fair and we don't always get our way, there are still good options and you have very good friends who like you" isn't too far off.— Darach (@darachos) September 28, 2019
lishen dye think that the brits even understand whats being said here
― all over bar the shouting (im here for the shouting) (darraghmac), Sunday, 29 September 2019 20:19 (four years ago) link
See also “ah sure you know yourself”
― gyac, Sunday, 29 September 2019 20:40 (four years ago) link
this is it
― all over bar the shouting (im here for the shouting) (darraghmac), Sunday, 29 September 2019 20:41 (four years ago) link
just
sure
on its own tbh
― all over bar the shouting (im here for the shouting) (darraghmac), Sunday, 29 September 2019 20:42 (four years ago) link
when u grab yr knees the cup of tea before you leave
sure it is what it is
― gyac, Sunday, 29 September 2019 20:59 (four years ago) link
Ah
― plax (ico), Monday, 30 September 2019 05:32 (four years ago) link
V excited for the Irish that they are getting represented in a major motion picture soon
― Simon H., Monday, 30 September 2019 05:44 (four years ago) link
sure to be a contender for the foreign language film oscar this year
― j., Monday, 30 September 2019 05:55 (four years ago) link
arah shtop now, shtop
― all over bar the shouting (im here for the shouting) (darraghmac), Monday, 30 September 2019 08:08 (four years ago) link
pity about you
and
what av ut
are underrated responses that offer the target the opportunity of perhaps considering their complaint (and possibly their own part in it) in a more universal context and if im honest the world'd be a better place if they were deployed and hit home a bit more
― all over bar the shouting (im here for the shouting) (darraghmac), Monday, 30 September 2019 14:09 (four years ago) link
obsessed with this clip
And here it is in all its glory, with added “people who wish to remain British, can be returned back to the mainland” - like an ASOS delivery with the wrong address 😂😂 pic.twitter.com/hD5ezTYL3D— Niall McGarry (@MrNiallMcGarry) October 4, 2019
― gyac, Saturday, 5 October 2019 17:16 (four years ago) link
No longer shocked to hear this kind of bullshit on telly/radio/the street anymore. The absolute state.
― plax (ico), Saturday, 5 October 2019 23:55 (four years ago) link
the vibes off him
he was beating his latvian missus around upstairs poolrooms in the late 90s for sure
― too many cuckth thpoil the broth (darraghmac), Sunday, 6 October 2019 06:48 (four years ago) link
Felt a bit teary at thishttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/EGgii3xXUAAhv2O?format=jpg&name=largeBut not the first time they’ve expressed solidarityhttps://img.resized.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-mural-showing-solidarity-with-rojava-unveiled-at-free-derry-corner.jpg
― gyac, Friday, 11 October 2019 13:27 (four years ago) link
― Le Bateau Ivre, Friday, 11 October 2019 14:11 (four years ago) link
Thread about the fucking disgraceful judgement today & thoughts on how Irish citizenship law works
Today's DeSouza judgment means people will be talking about Ireland's citizenship law & comparing it to UK's. Should we trust UK to adopt Ireland's legal approach or does UK's xenophobia make that a threat. Thread 1/— Simon Cox (@SimonFRCox) October 14, 2019
#Brexit on 31 October a 'priority' for British government, says Britain’s Queen Elizabeth— RTÉ News (@rtenews) October 14, 2019
― gyac, Monday, 14 October 2019 19:46 (four years ago) link
Continuing my latest spate of posting to myself about citizenship issues
Irish/Polish lesbian couple literally unable to return to Ireland because their 15mo daughter is stateless: https://t.co/qQBLSRA7W2— mary mac (@marykmac) October 14, 2019
They say sections two and three of the Children and Family Relationships Bill, which deals with donor-assisted reproduction, should be amended so all children born through IVF outside the State qualify for Irish citizenship. While the Bill was passed through the Oireachtas prior to the same-sex marriage referendum in 2015, parts two and three of the act have not yet been enacted.“The Irish public believes all gay people have the same rights as straight people now, but we don’t,” Ms Deevy told The Irish Times by phone. “Nobody asks any questions to straight couples when their children are born abroad to an anonymous donor.”
Asked to comment on the couple’s situation, a department of health spokesman referred the query to the Department of Foreign Affairs (DFA). A DFA spokeswoman said a person born outside the island of Ireland is an Irish citizen if born to an Irish-born, Irish citizen parent. As per the 1956 act, the State recognises the mother as the person who gave birth to the child, she said. The Department of Justice said it could not comment on individual cases.
Today I have dispatched the last piece of paper required before I can be pronounced Irish and the £6.20 it cost me to send it will be the best £6.20 I’ve ever spent. I AM COMING HOME IRELAND! (Thank you grandma who died 2 months before I was born. THANK YOU)— Emma Kennedy (@EmmaKennedy) October 14, 2019
― gyac, Tuesday, 15 October 2019 10:57 (four years ago) link
And here I was, thinking the child's best interests mattered above all.
― pomenitul, Tuesday, 15 October 2019 11:06 (four years ago) link
Not posting to yourself, I'm seething too even if I don't post here often enough.
― Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 15 October 2019 13:41 (four years ago) link
Yeah I take you & deems as given, I’ve long given up expectation non-Irish people give a fuck. Don’t think I got a single response in the UK politics thread about de Souza case.
― gyac, Tuesday, 15 October 2019 13:45 (four years ago) link
I'm reading but don't think I have any opinions of worth tbh
― Xia Nu del Vague (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 15 October 2019 14:13 (four years ago) link
I thought I'd posted something about EDS there but it might have been one of the many things I type and then don't post.
It is totally- depressing how ready the UK govt apparently is to shred the GFA- depressing that NI citizens will have different sets of rights depending on which citizenship they have- depressing and weird that you get more rights by renouncing one citizenship than having dual citizenship (ironic that you now have more rights as a self-declared Irish citizen in NI, if it wasn't actual people's lives being played with it would be almost funny after all those years of gerrymandering and weird inheritance rules and so on)- bad that you have to pay and sign something to affirm that you are a British citizen but don't want to be any more, rather than just, you know, affirming your right never to have been one...
...but I think De Souza also says that even having to sign something to the effect of the latter would be too much. Initially this seems fair -- why should you have to? especially for something as useful and fundamental as being able to have your spouse move over, rather than just a political statement -- but I had been wondering about something asked (not answered) in one of the replies on that Twitter thread, viz: if you aren't automatically regarded as a British citizen, and the UK govt (+ the "largest political party of the largest political designation" in the non-existent-for-1001-days Stormont assembly etc etc) would surely not think NI residents were Irish by default, would everyone in NI be stateless until such point as they apply for a passport? That can't be the case (or bad side-effects ahoy, I would've thought!), but is there any other way to provide this default neutrality?
This is probably a v dumb and naive reading of things though, please do take me apart - gently (mentally in Hedonism Bot voice thanks to bg's cat)
― a passing spacecadet, Tuesday, 15 October 2019 15:10 (four years ago) link
also sorry about the lesbian couple with stateless IVF baby thing, hadn't read about that, that is some bullshit
and sorry I don't know enough to have thoughts on the referendum re birthright citizenship but people smarter than me say removing that right was also some bullshit, so I'm going to go with assuming it probably is at least until I've bothered to read up on it (thoughts and good articles welcome, especially if the articles are brief, I'm afraid)
― a passing spacecadet, Tuesday, 15 October 2019 15:16 (four years ago) link
...That was a long post and on reflection I think the point is it should never have mattered and would never really have mattered if we weren't leaving the EU and limiting immigration rights, and in so doing limiting actual life options invoked by otherwise philosophical questions of identity
the interestingness (or not) of the philosophical point should be secondary to "just don't do the thing that makes it not purely a theoretical exercise" and I regret crashing in with sophist queries
tl;dr: this was all very delicately balanced by people who thought hard about it and worked hard to bring it together, and it's fucking reckless of the Tories/us Brits (sorry) to start taking chunks out of the structure apparently without any thought at all
― a passing spacecadet, Tuesday, 15 October 2019 15:35 (four years ago) link
Is thinking we should restrict jus sanguinis to parents only my most reactionary opinion? maybe!
Fellow Brits, stop tracing your ancestry back to some distant Irish relative and applying for Irish passports. Some of you have no shame.— jenn (@ScottishJenn_) October 16, 2019
But, if you understood that shared history folks are always going on about, you'd get how Brits grabbing an Irish passport and not contributing back, well, that kinda leaves a bad taste in the mouth. Especially when they go get into fights with people who actually live here.— Eilís Ní Fhlannagáin 🏳️🌈 🏴☠️ 🇮🇪 (@dirtycitybird) October 16, 2019
― gyac, Wednesday, 16 October 2019 20:06 (four years ago) link
it boils the piss a bit when you see that emma kennedy example for instance where she is making light of the paucity of connection to ireland (although i am reading it that way because a) i dislike emma kennedy and b) it's one solitary tweet and it gives me no indication of her connection or not to irishness, her family may have been quite self-consciously irish, who knows).
― Seany's too Dyche to mention (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 16 October 2019 20:10 (four years ago) link
the emma de souza situation is shitty for her but i can't help but feel big picture about that situation (reunification will sort it).
― Seany's too Dyche to mention (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 16 October 2019 20:12 (four years ago) link
and the uk government are always going to be bad bastards regarding immigration and citizenship
― Seany's too Dyche to mention (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 16 October 2019 20:13 (four years ago) link
If I didn’t know my Irish passport was coming I would be feeling furious that my long held desire to live in Italy when I retire had been scuppered. I HATE the loss of FoM. HATE it.— Emma Kennedy (@EmmaKennedy) January 31, 2019
@katoi I’ve already started the paperwork to become an Irish citizen. No way do I want to be outside of the EU.— Emma Kennedy (@EmmaKennedy) June 26, 2016
Joy. Just discovered I can apply for Irish citizenship. #iameuropean— Emma Kennedy (@EmmaKennedy) June 25, 2016
Tomorrow I go to Ireland for the very first time. In 1938 my Irish Catholic grandmother came to London and met and married a Protestant— Emma Kennedy (@EmmaKennedy) September 27, 2013
― gyac, Wednesday, 16 October 2019 20:20 (four years ago) link
― gyac, Wednesday, 16 October 2019 20:21 (four years ago) link
i bet you can't wait for the Emma Kennedy selfies on Ballybunion beach #whoneedsNewquay
― calzino, Wednesday, 16 October 2019 20:40 (four years ago) link
I imagine she mentions her granny being a Catholic to let any Irish people know that she is one of them, in more ways than one. Should I know ho Emma Kennedy is? I keep getting her mixed up with Sarah Kennedy from Beadle's About or whatever that programme was.
― Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Wednesday, 16 October 2019 21:00 (four years ago) link
Game For A Laugh is what you mean Tom!
― calzino, Wednesday, 16 October 2019 21:01 (four years ago) link
http://www.ukgameshows.com/p/images/thumb/5/57/Gameforalaugh_cast.jpg/400px-Gameforalaugh_cast.jpg
that sarah kennedy
― calzino, Wednesday, 16 October 2019 21:03 (four years ago) link
Let's have a big hand for Jeremy Beadle. I've noticed Emma Kennedy was born in Corby, so she should be able to claim Scottish citizenship when Scotland becomes independent.
― Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Wednesday, 16 October 2019 21:05 (four years ago) link
for some reason I have this indelible image in my mind of Sarah Kennedy's face crudely cut and pasted inside a christmas tree bauble on the front of the godawful Eagle comic in early 1980 something
― calzino, Wednesday, 16 October 2019 21:24 (four years ago) link
https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/vFMAAOSwBt5ZFb-I/s-l1600.jpg
definitely not how i remembered it, must be something else I'm thinking of
― calzino, Wednesday, 16 October 2019 21:27 (four years ago) link
but she's down with the mekon.
― calzino, Wednesday, 16 October 2019 21:28 (four years ago) link
sorry not about not Irish content, but my gran is from kerry!
― calzino, Wednesday, 16 October 2019 21:29 (four years ago) link
Also there is an Irishman there.
― Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Wednesday, 16 October 2019 21:30 (four years ago) link
Henry Kelly is totes on-topic for this thread
― calzino, Wednesday, 16 October 2019 21:31 (four years ago) link
After graduating from University College Dublin with a degree in English in 1968, he became journalist with The Irish Times, and was swiftly promoted to the post of its Belfast-based Northern Editor in 1970, at the start of civil unrest and The Troubles in Northern Ireland, a post which he held for five years. During his time in Ulster he published the book How Stormont Fell (1972), which is still highly regarded in its field
hmm 2 stars on goodreads 1 vote, nary a mention on amazon reviews even or nowhere else.. cracking work on your own wiki entry though henry.
― calzino, Wednesday, 16 October 2019 21:38 (four years ago) link
If we are not to wait until the final act or at least an exhausted pause, it is necessary to be quickly in and quickly out. An excellent example of the problems and prospects of such an exercise can be found in Henry Kelly's How Stormont Fell (Dublin: Gill and Macmillan, 1972) that covers the period of Faulkner's Premiership, March, 1971, to March, 1972. Kelly, Northern Editor of the Irish Times, long a perceptive and knowledgeable if not completely disinterested observer of the Northern scene, has done a sound and balanced study, good journalism in the best sense of the word. And the book had an obvious beginning and end, came out in a rush while the iron was hot and a ready-made
j. bowyer bell on kelly's book
― Seany's too Dyche to mention (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 16 October 2019 21:44 (four years ago) link
lol that’s hilarious
― gyac, Wednesday, 16 October 2019 21:44 (four years ago) link
exellent!
― calzino, Wednesday, 16 October 2019 21:48 (four years ago) link
in terms of actual good books by Irish people who later became tv personalities, have either if ye read It’s Only A Game?
― gyac, Wednesday, 16 October 2019 21:53 (four years ago) link
yes, it's very good, as is a strange kind of glory, dunphy's book on matt busby (himself a member of the irish diaspora) is similarly excellent.
― Seany's too Dyche to mention (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 16 October 2019 21:56 (four years ago) link
Duphy book sounds ace, my 3rd fave Graun writer Richard Williams reps for it as well.
― calzino, Wednesday, 16 October 2019 22:17 (four years ago) link
It’s so good! Can also recommend Tony Cascarino’s book
― gyac, Wednesday, 16 October 2019 22:26 (four years ago) link
The rocky road gets some praise as well.
― calzino, Wednesday, 16 October 2019 22:27 (four years ago) link
I met Sarah Kennedy once, must've pulled a face when we were doing a cheek kiss for the photographer cos she said something like "I'm not into this either" in a pissy voice
― Xia Nu del Vague (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 17 October 2019 09:12 (four years ago) link
its probably the 4th or 5th time that Ive mentioned it on the board, but yes the Tony Cascarino book is excellent
― The World According To.... (Michael B), Thursday, 17 October 2019 10:09 (four years ago) link
But do you recommend any books by Irish footballers? <----- the old ones are the best
― Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Thursday, 17 October 2019 10:13 (four years ago) link
I associate Cascarino with TalkSport and just assume anything to do with him is bad. ftr I don't even know if he is still a TS regular.
― calzino, Thursday, 17 October 2019 10:17 (four years ago) link
Idk but that book was pretty honest about him & his failings and as such is a lot more memorable than yr usual “we got a great result and the gaffer was over the moon” autos. Strong recommend alongside the Dunphy one!
― gyac, Thursday, 17 October 2019 12:36 (four years ago) link
Believe me as a Celtic fan I don't need to read a book to know about Tony Cascarino's failings.
― Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Thursday, 17 October 2019 12:41 (four years ago) link
lol you should still read it though
― gyac, Thursday, 17 October 2019 12:45 (four years ago) link
Paul McGrath's book is good
Not light reading though, needless to say
― Number None, Thursday, 17 October 2019 13:16 (four years ago) link
The button pushing scandal is fucking ridiculous.https://www.rte.ie/news/politics/2019/1023/1085079-dail-votes/Something to be said for the Brits’ painfully slow method after all.
― gyac, Wednesday, 23 October 2019 08:59 (four years ago) link
http://waterfordwhispersnews.com/2019/10/22/ireland-queuing-to-see-the-look-on-arlene-fosters-face/
― Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Wednesday, 23 October 2019 14:52 (four years ago) link
I’m actually dying. Is this real?! The best thing they’ve done since man falling on the ice, and maybe Bachelors Walk for my favourite RTÉ thing ever.
Excuse me? @rtenews 😂😂😂🦇🦇🦇🦇🦇🦇🦇 pic.twitter.com/ZCXwNoja2v— Holly Carpenter (@Holly0910) October 31, 2019
― gyac, Thursday, 31 October 2019 22:05 (four years ago) link
Haha I love it
― The World According To.... (Michael B), Friday, 1 November 2019 00:40 (four years ago) link
Really into this Reeling in the Years account, Seamus Heaney reading a poem while Dragostea Din Tei plays over the top is peak
pic.twitter.com/HuHL8s8Dm8— No Context Reeling In The Years (@ReelingDotJPG) November 1, 2019
― gyac, Saturday, 2 November 2019 13:16 (four years ago) link
jesus rte
― deems of internment (darraghmac), Saturday, 2 November 2019 23:05 (four years ago) link
The 2000s edition of Reeling in the Years was notably inferior to the preceding ones, especially from a music supervision standpoint
― Number None, Sunday, 3 November 2019 09:03 (four years ago) link
Or maybe it's just that life was
― Number None, Sunday, 3 November 2019 09:04 (four years ago) link
Possibly? I don’t think I’ve ever seen one of those ones.
1996 pic.twitter.com/VhEJ1QudQy— No Context Reeling In The Years (@ReelingDotJPG) November 1, 2019
― gyac, Sunday, 3 November 2019 09:07 (four years ago) link
I take it back, this was of course superb and would have been so in any decade
2005 pic.twitter.com/80yei9QEzz— No Context Reeling In The Years (@ReelingDotJPG) November 1, 2019
― gyac, Sunday, 3 November 2019 09:10 (four years ago) link
ah can we not with the 96 final lads pls
― deems of internment (darraghmac), Sunday, 3 November 2019 11:33 (four years ago) link
Too soon?
― gyac, Sunday, 3 November 2019 11:33 (four years ago) link
until we fuckin win one*
*ive won one but god bless mayo i am a strong ally and their lot is mine
― deems of internment (darraghmac), Sunday, 3 November 2019 11:34 (four years ago) link
Ye know you can’t win one til the curse is lifted
― gyac, Sunday, 3 November 2019 11:36 (four years ago) link
that last bugger died before last year's exit fyi
― deems of internment (darraghmac), Sunday, 3 November 2019 11:36 (four years ago) link
i mean to whom do we appeal
is this contingent on us taking 13 asylum seekers because ive taken the temperature down home and its shaky enough lookin
― deems of internment (darraghmac), Sunday, 3 November 2019 11:37 (four years ago) link
Don’t ye have to wait for the whole 51 team to die?
― gyac, Sunday, 3 November 2019 11:39 (four years ago) link
ya i think they're all gone now
― deems of internment (darraghmac), Sunday, 3 November 2019 12:08 (four years ago) link
uh rip like
― deems of internment (darraghmac), Sunday, 3 November 2019 12:21 (four years ago) link
Paddy Prendergast still going?
― gyac, Sunday, 3 November 2019 12:52 (four years ago) link
look if im honest it looks dodge when our lot track them like that dyhear what im sayin
― deems of internment (darraghmac), Sunday, 3 November 2019 12:58 (four years ago) link
Nadine Coyle and Andrew Maxwell both on I’m A Celebrity..., what a time to be alive.
― gyac, Tuesday, 12 November 2019 10:09 (four years ago) link
Had to Google Andrew Maxwell, still none the wiser.
― The Man Who Was Thirsty (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 12 November 2019 12:52 (four years ago) link
He's the wtf guy sitting beside Brendan O'Neill when Big Bren is going on about being from Irish peasant stock.
― 'Skills' Wallace (Tom D.), Tuesday, 12 November 2019 12:56 (four years ago) link
Ah right, good lad, hope he likes kangaroo balls
― The Man Who Was Thirsty (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 12 November 2019 12:58 (four years ago) link
i can support him when the stage is us vs tories
otherwise, he had a wonderful mother id say
― deems of internment (darraghmac), Tuesday, 12 November 2019 13:21 (four years ago) link
Andrew Maxwell used to be on The Panel and had the rare quality of resembling both Haughey and Boscohttps://youtu.be/4Xlo_IU2gcI
― gyac, Tuesday, 12 November 2019 13:29 (four years ago) link
He supports Scottish football team Hibernian F.C..[3]
Poseur.
― 'Skills' Wallace (Tom D.), Tuesday, 12 November 2019 15:07 (four years ago) link
Are you suggesting he’s overcompensating?
― gyac, Tuesday, 12 November 2019 18:25 (four years ago) link
paddying the cv
― deems of internment (darraghmac), Tuesday, 12 November 2019 18:31 (four years ago) link
returning the soup
― gyac, Tuesday, 12 November 2019 19:01 (four years ago) link
Not sure why anyone outside of Leith would support Hibs tbh.
― 'Skills' Wallace (Tom D.), Tuesday, 12 November 2019 19:06 (four years ago) link
― 'Skills' Wallace (Tom D.), Tuesday, November 12, 2019 11:06 AM (twelve seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink
other than pat niven and this fella it seems like nobody does
― -_- (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 12 November 2019 19:08 (four years ago) link
James Connolly is a long time dead.
― 'Skills' Wallace (Tom D.), Tuesday, 12 November 2019 19:11 (four years ago) link
Another worry for Andrew is the plight of Hibernian football club, who are currently struggling near the bottom of the Scottish Premiership league table.“Although I’m from Ireland, my family were originally from Edinburgh. My dad was a trade union organiser and so was my granddad. They lived close to Easter Road, so I was always going to gravitate towards Hibs. There are some great people at the club, with some very good players, but it doesn’t seem to be coming together for us at the moment.“Because the Scottish football season starts in August, I always take in a game when I’m in Edinburgh at the Fringe. I did a couple of gigs at Easter Road Stadium last year, I love to do those. And they let me on the pitch at half time during the match to do the raffle!“I hate the sectarianism of Scottish football though. Celtic and Rangers need to do more to challenge the bigots in my view. Hibs is a club that is proud of its Irish routes, but is non-sectarian.“People in Scotland assume I’m from Edinburgh because of my name… I always get a laugh out of that.”
― gyac, Tuesday, 12 November 2019 19:11 (four years ago) link
Absolved.
― 'Skills' Wallace (Tom D.), Tuesday, 12 November 2019 19:14 (four years ago) link
plastic jock
― -_- (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 12 November 2019 20:35 (four years ago) link
He also doesn’t think Scotland should be independent
― gyac, Tuesday, 12 November 2019 20:41 (four years ago) link
Yep.
The ‘Corbyn befriended the IRA’ thing is the haute-couture of British egotism. Never mind that Thatcher spoke to them first, or it led to the GFA - the spectre of the Paddywack Bogeyman has been conjured and that’s enough to frighten some people into the folds of Boris’s belly.— Philly Byrne (@PhilipNByrne) November 13, 2019
― gyac, Wednesday, 13 November 2019 14:28 (four years ago) link
I mean, the third one isn't a problem for a lot of the UK.
(autocorrect adding confusion to the second one?)
― Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 13 November 2019 15:01 (four years ago) link
Paddywack Bogeyman?
― mh, Wednesday, 13 November 2019 15:04 (four years ago) link
I think these cunts need reminding that Martin McGuinness was deputy First Minister of Northern Ireland for 10 years. Hello?
https://cdn-02.independent.ie/incoming/article35355312.ece/6c932/AUTOCROP/w620/Martin%20Mc%2031%202%20INT_ED5_S01%20INT_ED6_S01%20Read-Only.jpg
― 'Skills' Wallace (Tom D.), Wednesday, 13 November 2019 15:06 (four years ago) link
They don't need reminding really, they just choose to ignore it.
― 'Skills' Wallace (Tom D.), Wednesday, 13 November 2019 15:07 (four years ago) link
I picked a random book on my kindle last night to cure my insomnia and it turned out to be Eamon Dunphy's The Rocky Road, not the football memoir mentioned upthread but his autobiography. I was quite struck by how perceptive and interesting, politically aware, cliche free etc.. his writing was - no typical footballer is this guy.
― calzino, Saturday, 16 November 2019 12:57 (four years ago) link
If we ever had a c/d thread Dunphy is classic all the way, his Rod Liddle bit is a meme in itselfhttps://youtu.be/EqjQSk1PQ4o
― gyac, Saturday, 16 November 2019 13:25 (four years ago) link
I'm aware this is not technically the "Ex-pats bristling at the British" thread, but still and all.
“Bó.....a word we can own” according to @NatWest_Help. Brits....never not at it. pic.twitter.com/PpLGx2xpjB— Stiabhaí Nics (@stephie08) November 28, 2019
― Andrew Farrell, Friday, 29 November 2019 11:02 (four years ago) link
the fuck
― Number None, Friday, 29 November 2019 12:21 (four years ago) link
xp if it’s not it should befucking state of the explanation about the fada as well
― gyac, Friday, 29 November 2019 16:03 (four years ago) link
Is it worth catching up on the Toy Show?
― gyac, Monday, 2 December 2019 14:14 (four years ago) link
No
― plax (ico), Monday, 2 December 2019 14:15 (four years ago) link
Toy show is horrible. Who is it now anyway that Tubridy creep, makes you nostalgic for even pat Kenny. Toy show has always been fascist spectacle. Seal Donnybrook in a big Ziploc.
― plax (ico), Monday, 2 December 2019 14:18 (four years ago) link
Nobody did the Toy Show better than Gay, with his open contempt for the children.
― gyac, Monday, 2 December 2019 14:25 (four years ago) link
otm.
the fuckin idea that its ever been about the kids, starting at nine pm and running until the drink runs out
it needs a bad santa reset sharpish, some real nasty scummer just going through the billy barry crew for shortcuts
― deems of internment (darraghmac), Monday, 2 December 2019 14:34 (four years ago) link
Aren’t like 70% of viewers adults? You’re not getting children doing that application essay for tickets like.
― gyac, Monday, 2 December 2019 14:36 (four years ago) link
100% of ppl under 30 doing *anything* are there because they were told to be
― deems of internment (darraghmac), Monday, 2 December 2019 14:44 (four years ago) link
xp That reads slightly like you need tickets to watch the show.
― Andrew Farrell, Monday, 2 December 2019 14:53 (four years ago) link
Adults are in it for the swag, and that includes viewers spitting over what the undeserving audience get
― gyac, Monday, 2 December 2019 14:54 (four years ago) link
the irish!
― deems of internment (darraghmac), Monday, 2 December 2019 14:57 (four years ago) link
It's one of those Irish cultural touchstones that makes me absolutely ill. Sort of downwind of comely maidens. It's state TV that suggests corruption.
― plax (ico), Monday, 2 December 2019 15:01 (four years ago) link
is there an irish cultural touchstone youd have positive feelings toward, and i ask with absolute non-zingy interest
― deems of internment (darraghmac), Monday, 2 December 2019 16:33 (four years ago) link
― plax (ico), Monday, 2 December 2019 17:52 (four years ago) link
THE IRISH
― deems of internment (darraghmac), Monday, 2 December 2019 17:57 (four years ago) link
Jokes, plenty. Joyce, Beckett. The closest Ireland has to a national project of vergangenheitsbewältigung. What drives me nuts is the manic effort to sentimentalise everything in Irish popular culture. Fucking butter ads. I feel optimistic about Ireland. *About the young.* But there is a national kitsch that threatens to smother almost everything. I probably hate "reeling in the years" more than anything.
― plax (ico), Monday, 2 December 2019 18:00 (four years ago) link
I like more blackboard-fingernail trad music than most people but I'm partly hypnotised by how much I dislike it at the same time.
― plax (ico), Monday, 2 December 2019 18:02 (four years ago) link
Edna
― plax (ico), Monday, 2 December 2019 18:07 (four years ago) link
and the way he might look at you
― gyac, Monday, 2 December 2019 18:34 (four years ago) link
xp i kinda get that about the trad
also the politics of a good ceidhlin or readoiri would blast the skin off ye
― deems of internment (darraghmac), Monday, 2 December 2019 18:35 (four years ago) link
I am probably not the ideal person to respond to this given how I am guaranteed to cry at the Going Back ESB ad from the 80s
― gyac, Monday, 2 December 2019 18:35 (four years ago) link
we have a thread for this iirc
― deems of internment (darraghmac), Monday, 2 December 2019 18:36 (four years ago) link
Just want to put out there that I was the only person in my class in TY to write an essay opposing trad, like to think I’ve improved since then though tbf that class was traumatic
― gyac, Monday, 2 December 2019 18:36 (four years ago) link
xp sorry I didn’t realise the thread police were on the case
the thread policeman
thread was rly good iirc but is now all broken links ;_;
― deems of internment (darraghmac), Monday, 2 December 2019 18:40 (four years ago) link
i went out and researched every criticism of hard times i could find, learned it all off and absolutely tore dickens to shreds in the LC, finished paper 1 with full marks iirc
essays fuelled by dislike are the good stuff
― deems of internment (darraghmac), Monday, 2 December 2019 18:42 (four years ago) link
They are, but my teacher was a musician and she made me play Amhrán na bhFiann on the tin whistle every single class because I was our class’s worst player.I did Portrait of a Young Artist instead of Wuthering Heights, which I hated, and also hated that but it was a way I could work.
― gyac, Monday, 2 December 2019 18:45 (four years ago) link
mar dhea, a how-do leaving cert i call it where ye had choices but
― deems of internment (darraghmac), Monday, 2 December 2019 18:47 (four years ago) link
^ ilxors who have met me will attest that this is the kind of thing i say under my breath a lot
I finished both papers with full marks, but you only get the medals for useful subjects! My friend got one for one of the sciences I think?
― gyac, Monday, 2 December 2019 18:48 (four years ago) link
― gyac, Monday, 2 December 2019 18:49 (four years ago) link
Lol the nostalgic ad totally summarises the augmentation of Dev hegemony with consumerist realism, such is the shallowness of contemporary Irish culture
― plax (ico), Monday, 2 December 2019 18:49 (four years ago) link
we'll always have the anglo-irish idiom, if its all we have
― deems of internment (darraghmac), Monday, 2 December 2019 18:51 (four years ago) link
i learned about the brown cow the morning of the paper and i felt it was just the right kind of chancer bullshit that a fella could really hang some quality answers on, god bless ya austie a mhic
― deems of internment (darraghmac), Monday, 2 December 2019 18:52 (four years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OiirccLoVkU
― plax (ico), Monday, 2 December 2019 19:01 (four years ago) link
xp don’t know what this is so you learned sooner than me
― gyac, Monday, 2 December 2019 19:03 (four years ago) link
the lost heifer i think i mean
― deems of internment (darraghmac), Monday, 2 December 2019 19:04 (four years ago) link
Oh I see. He wasn’t on my syllabus. I was hoping on one of the four poets I did know (Plath, Yeats, Heaney, Bishop) and I had a choice between two I think. High risk strategy cos fuck knows I wasn’t learning Donne or Hopkins.
― gyac, Monday, 2 December 2019 19:06 (four years ago) link
When the black herds of the rain were grazing,In the gap of the pure cold windAnd the watery hazes of the hazelBrought her into my mind,I thought of the last honey by the waterThat no hive can find.
Brightness was drenching through the branchesWhen she wandered again,Turning sliver out of dark grassesWhere the skylark had lain,And her voice coming softly over the meadowWas the mist becoming rain
― deems of internment (darraghmac), Monday, 2 December 2019 19:08 (four years ago) link
what i remember about this:
the herd is ireland
― deems of internment (darraghmac), Monday, 2 December 2019 19:09 (four years ago) link
the gap is ireland
hazels- certainly ireland
the honey: just honey
the hive, the ireland that never was, the ireland dev dreamt of and up, the ireland that irish americans think of, i-cant-believe-its-not-ireland, 33 county republic ireland
― deems of internment (darraghmac), Monday, 2 December 2019 19:10 (four years ago) link
second verse: the cow came back while he wrote the first
― deems of internment (darraghmac), Monday, 2 December 2019 19:11 (four years ago) link
lj otm now about Hopkins but putting him in front of 17 year olds in writing rather than read is cruelty
― deems of internment (darraghmac), Monday, 2 December 2019 19:13 (four years ago) link
I'm currently enjoying a hot port which is possibly my favourite Irish cultural touchstone of all.
― plax (ico), Monday, 2 December 2019 19:17 (four years ago) link
I've never understood Hopkins. Wished they'd put chattier gays on the LC
― plax (ico), Monday, 2 December 2019 19:18 (four years ago) link
rip
― deems of internment (darraghmac), Monday, 2 December 2019 19:54 (four years ago) link
how was hopkins not chatty, he exploded sonnets to 500 words for god's sake
― imago, Monday, 2 December 2019 20:31 (four years ago) link
Hopkins was not good
― gyac, Monday, 2 December 2019 20:50 (four years ago) link
burton reading leaden/golden echo is maybe the best thing humans have done
― deems of internment (darraghmac), Monday, 2 December 2019 21:08 (four years ago) link
No, I was wrong. My chosen four were Yeats/Plath/Heaney/Mahon. I think of Heaney a lot and bought several books of his, but Mahon I still know by heart <redacted> years later.
― gyac, Monday, 2 December 2019 22:06 (four years ago) link
mahon cailin indeed
― deems of internment (darraghmac), Monday, 2 December 2019 22:30 (four years ago) link
Gyac I suspect we did the leaving the same year
― plax (ico), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 06:01 (four years ago) link
Wouldn’t be surprised. What was your core text?
― gyac, Tuesday, 3 December 2019 08:02 (four years ago) link
I want to say Macbeth
― plax (ico), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 08:44 (four years ago) link
A fine vintage
― gyac, Tuesday, 3 December 2019 09:20 (four years ago) link
same but id imagine from an earlier cycle
― deems of internment (darraghmac), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 10:47 (four years ago) link
ftfy
― pomenitul, Tuesday, 3 December 2019 10:48 (four years ago) link
well it's a given that one cannot simply agree with another's opinion, this is the irish thread
― deems of internment (darraghmac), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 11:42 (four years ago) link
Speaking of vintages, I think pom and I are the same age. Jurd “Manly” Hopkins was not good.
― gyac, Tuesday, 3 December 2019 12:00 (four years ago) link
The sprung rhythms and talk of inscape and instress are all classic imo but I'm fond of poetry that aspires towards the condition of music (short of actual sound poetry, which lacks all the desirable qualities of language and music both).
I think we are the same age, yes. I'm a 1985-er.
― pomenitul, Tuesday, 3 December 2019 12:03 (four years ago) link
A fine year.That’s interesting. I may look at him again now that you’ve said that. I never had quite that association between the sounds and rhythms of poetry as I did with music in English - but I can still remember some of the Irish poems I learned because of their musicality.
― gyac, Tuesday, 3 December 2019 12:07 (four years ago) link
I'm younger but I was quite young when I did the leaving
― plax (ico), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 12:11 (four years ago) link
Hopkins drew on Anglo-Saxon cadences so he was definitely working within a wholly different tradition (apologies for mentioning it itt).
― pomenitul, Tuesday, 3 December 2019 12:11 (four years ago) link
It’a fine! What else is this thread for?!
― gyac, Tuesday, 3 December 2019 12:13 (four years ago) link
In the absence of a The Anglo-Saxons thread...
― 'Skills' Wallace (Tom D.), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 12:16 (four years ago) link
Anglo-Saxons is a kinda nonsense category tbf
― éminence rose et jaune (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 12:17 (four years ago) link
It is kind of telling that the canonical Anglo-Saxon epic begins with a reference to the 'Spear-Danes'.
― pomenitul, Tuesday, 3 December 2019 12:19 (four years ago) link
We've got our own Saxons, incidentally:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transylvanian_Saxons
― pomenitul, Tuesday, 3 December 2019 12:23 (four years ago) link
Same!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saxons#Netherlands
The local language, although strongly influenced by standard Dutch, is still officially recognised as Dutch Low Saxon.
― Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 3 December 2019 12:24 (four years ago) link
Damn continental immigrants.
― pomenitul, Tuesday, 3 December 2019 12:26 (four years ago) link
― éminence rose et jaune (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 12:17 (fifty-three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
and don't ye behave like it
― deems of internment (darraghmac), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 13:11 (four years ago) link
happy to take my share of the blame but i've got enough self-loathing for one or two more if needed
― éminence rose et jaune (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 13:15 (four years ago) link
its valuable work and we surely appreciate it
― deems of internment (darraghmac), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 13:21 (four years ago) link
I did Hamlet and if nothing else it's almost certainly provided me with more University Challenge answers than any other subject
― Number None, Tuesday, 3 December 2019 13:56 (four years ago) link
"leaving cert" is one of the fascinating concepts I've been introduced to by my favorite thriller writer Tana French, along with the staggeringly good idiom "fair play to you"
― Swilling Ambergris, Esq. (silby), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 16:55 (four years ago) link
fair play to here
― deems of internment (darraghmac), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 17:10 (four years ago) link
her, ffs
― deems of internment (darraghmac), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 17:13 (four years ago) link
Both work.
― pomenitul, Tuesday, 3 December 2019 17:13 (four years ago) link
https://youtu.be/Z1vYs5LBC3c
― plax (ico), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 17:14 (four years ago) link
silby what was it about the leaving cert that so intrigued
― deems of internment (darraghmac), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 17:23 (four years ago) link
It does have a ring of the YA about it - Percy Jackson and the Leaving Certificate.
― Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 3 December 2019 17:31 (four years ago) link
its the piece of paper that allows you to emigrate to 'mericawwww
― deems of internment (darraghmac), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 17:37 (four years ago) link
― deems of internment (darraghmac), Tuesday, December 3, 2019 9:23 AM (thirty-four minutes ago)
the mystery! What happens if you don't pass? Can you leave whenever you want? Where do you leave to? No way of knowing.
― Swilling Ambergris, Esq. (silby), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 17:58 (four years ago) link
Well you can chuck it in anytime you like, but you can never leave
― Number None, Tuesday, 3 December 2019 19:30 (four years ago) link
p much
― deems of internment (darraghmac), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 19:30 (four years ago) link
Did anyone else watch the film How to Cheat in the Leaving Cert? Amazing that Willie O’Dea was so het up about it, lol.
― gyac, Tuesday, 3 December 2019 19:38 (four years ago) link
I am reliably assured that this is a classic of the LC Irish curriculum by people younger than me:https://youtu.be/SW-tdaO2s9oWe never had anything so memorable, remember the children of Lir story and one about a drug addict. No films.
― gyac, Tuesday, 3 December 2019 19:41 (four years ago) link
Lol u mean "gafa"
― plax (ico), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 19:58 (four years ago) link
What a pile of nonsense! Did it actually end with a chainsaw decapitation?
― plax (ico), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 20:00 (four years ago) link
I don’t remember that at all if so. Apparently it was still on the curriculum recently?
― gyac, Tuesday, 3 December 2019 20:06 (four years ago) link
re: Heaney, did anyone catch the 'Seamus Heaney and the Music of What Happens' documentary on the bbc last week? I recorded it.
― Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 3 December 2019 21:37 (four years ago) link
well I don't recall ever reading it all the way through, there were extracts in whatever textbook we used. But we did all have to go the see it at the Taidhbhearc and yes it definitely included that ending.
― plax (ico), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 21:43 (four years ago) link
Plaxico that is extremely rtmi, why didn’t they teach us that bit? It was fairly dry as Gaeilge despite the subject matter.LBI, I will look at that when I’m home!
A Derry woman who is challenging a requirement that she renounce her British citizenship before she can legally identify as Irish wants the Government to back her campaign.Today Taoiseach Leo Varadkar said he would take up the case with the next British prime minister after the election there on 12 December. Emma DeSouza is challenging being automatically determined to be a British citizen under UK law rather than having a choice of Irish citizenship as provided for in the Good Friday Agreement.She said there remains a responsibility on the Irish Government as a co-guarantor to uphold and protect the agreement.
The case of Bloody Sunday veteran Soldier F has been adjourned until the new year to give legal representatives time to co-ordinate the 25 civilian witnesses which will be called to give evidence.
― gyac, Wednesday, 4 December 2019 17:42 (four years ago) link
On the one hand, I did get kissed for not being English yesterday.
On the other hand, our already-planned move to Scotland next year will definitely seem like bandwagon-jumping.
― Andrew Farrell, Friday, 13 December 2019 08:51 (four years ago) link
Après toi, le déluge
― I've Got A Ron Wood Solo Album To Listen To (Tom D.), Friday, 13 December 2019 10:52 (four years ago) link
xp this happens to me every day, you’re not special
― gyac, Friday, 13 December 2019 10:57 (four years ago) link
The key is audience specialisation.
― Andrew Farrell, Friday, 13 December 2019 12:02 (four years ago) link
a good day to be thankful for PR, and lots of spin off parties really
― Banáná hÉireann (darraghmac), Friday, 13 December 2019 13:15 (four years ago) link
I mean lbr FF & FG are basically the same and we keep voting them in over and over again
― gyac, Friday, 13 December 2019 13:24 (four years ago) link
theyre less than subtly different, but the value in their lumpen centrism similarity being a protest vote to each other without lurching to an extreme is a Good Thing, and the ability to mix and match one with a few fairly consistent smaller ideologies likewise.
― Banáná hÉireann (darraghmac), Friday, 13 December 2019 13:39 (four years ago) link
Yeah, who needs socialised healthcare?
― plax (ico), Friday, 13 December 2019 15:22 (four years ago) link
look
― Banáná hÉireann (darraghmac), Friday, 13 December 2019 15:25 (four years ago) link
I did get kissed for not being English yesterday
why isn't this working for me
― mookieproof, Friday, 13 December 2019 15:27 (four years ago) link
Recently, a guy I know who was around in London in the late 60s was telling me a long convoluted story - all his stories are long and convoluted - about when the Westway was being built. We got into the conversation because he'd seen the Ken Burns documentary about country music and I happened to mention Merle Haggard and he said that, in the pubs he used to frequent in the area where the Westway was being built, where the clientele was apparently a strange classless rootless mix, the Irish labourers were especially fond of the song "Okie From Muskogee". Anyway, one night, one of these labourers happened to say how, when he went to a building site to ask the foreman if there was any work going for the day, he'd used a particular phrase which my friend had never forgotten, which was, "Any fear of a start?" I'm not entirely sure that's an exclusively Irish turn of phrase, but it sounds like it is.
― I've Got A Ron Wood Solo Album To Listen To (Tom D.), Saturday, 14 December 2019 01:02 (four years ago) link
Not sure if it’s exclusively ours but have heard my own dad say “any fear of a...” for years. Googled & found thishttps://books.google.co.uk/books?id=zjQTfaL8eyUC&pg=PA55&lpg=PA55&dq=%22any+fear+of+a+job%22&source=bl&ots=TdWsNnKw8-&sig=ACfU3U3dhBZpTgYSBVk5N6NHhRZYNi2jPw&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjOhJLm-bPmAhVRUMAKHadFCHwQ6AEwDHoECAQQAQ#v=onepage&q=%22any%20fear%20of%20a%20job%22&f=false
― gyac, Saturday, 14 December 2019 01:10 (four years ago) link
Ah, there you go!
― I've Got A Ron Wood Solo Album To Listen To (Tom D.), Saturday, 14 December 2019 01:18 (four years ago) link
Fave old school derogatory terms that my dad uses to describe people - "óinseach", or sometimes it's a "fed óinseach", "latchyco", "laarrie"
― The World According To.... (Michael B), Saturday, 14 December 2019 01:42 (four years ago) link
Three types of Irish people - from a 1950s British children's encyclopedia. pic.twitter.com/4v6CSmg5ds— Tom Moylan (@moylato) December 16, 2019
― calzino, Tuesday, 17 December 2019 21:26 (four years ago) link
Sad to say I am none of these, I blame my Norman ancestry from diverting me from one of these paths
― glindr jackson (gyac), Tuesday, 17 December 2019 21:29 (four years ago) link
I think I can thank the Turkish diaspora 6000 years ago or something.
― calzino, Tuesday, 17 December 2019 21:35 (four years ago) link
Oh you should see the Heaney doc Gyac, I thought it was brilliant. A pastoral portrait of the poet through the eyes of his wife and brothers. Slow poetry readings. Images of peat and bogs. How handsome he was! Winning doc imo, hope you recorded it.
― Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 17 December 2019 21:43 (four years ago) link
Dispatches from Ireland. I'm in Ireland now, tell me what information you would like from here and I will report back.
― plax (ico), Tuesday, 17 December 2019 23:42 (four years ago) link
Most things so far have been grand or gas or a disgrace
― plax (ico), Tuesday, 17 December 2019 23:43 (four years ago) link
what is the band that best addrsses your experience of being in Ireland right now
― britain's secret sauce (seandalai), Tuesday, 17 December 2019 23:44 (four years ago) link
the fuckin cheek
― Banáná hÉireann (darraghmac), Tuesday, 17 December 2019 23:46 (four years ago) link
I can confirm that all bands sound the same in Ireland and that one is called "green cars"
― plax (ico), Tuesday, 17 December 2019 23:47 (four years ago) link
-how much does stuff you’d buy for a hangover cost-what are people into that you wouldn’t know about if you’d been out of the country for several months -isn’t it a fucking tragedy Dublin airport got rid of their authentically syntaxed luggage signs?
― glindr jackson (gyac), Tuesday, 17 December 2019 23:48 (four years ago) link
― glindr jackson (gyac), Tuesday, 17 December 2019 23:49 (four years ago) link
Supermacs regular chips are E2.50, a large curry chip is E4.70
The biggest recent fads are vegan sausage rolls and woolly bomber jackets but they're not bomber jackets
I have not been to Dublin airport and have only down through it a couple of times
― plax (ico), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 00:01 (four years ago) link
I can report that portions continue to be small
― plax (ico), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 00:04 (four years ago) link
I'm most disturbed that there are motorway serviced now. Awful. Motorways everywhere, good be with the days you had to drive through everywhere; buttevant, charleville, macroom
― plax (ico), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 00:13 (four years ago) link
yes we had that thread about, now i think it, the original accursed borris
― Banáná hÉireann (darraghmac), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 00:17 (four years ago) link
Lol yes, my friend Clare once opened a bottle of wine with a stiletto heel in the forecourt of the petrol station in borris in ossory
― plax (ico), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 00:22 (four years ago) link
― glindr jackson (gyac), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 09:42 (four years ago) link
Don’t want to sound too cynical, but can anyone who’s seen British blue ticks talking about their Irish citizenship post anything they see about historical prosecutions? Can’t say it seems to have crossed any radars...
― glindr jackson (gyac), Thursday, 19 December 2019 09:14 (four years ago) link
Superb.https://twitter.com/NoContextDunphy
― glindr jackson (gyac), Thursday, 19 December 2019 22:53 (four years ago) link
content
― Banáná hÉireann (darraghmac), Thursday, 19 December 2019 22:59 (four years ago) link
The pinned tweet is classic, there’s so much Dunphy I wonder if I imagined
pic.twitter.com/KtSRf2WtI8— No Context Eamon Dunphy (@NoContextDunphy) November 6, 2019
― glindr jackson (gyac), Thursday, 19 December 2019 23:03 (four years ago) link
see, if you were listening to yr second captains football podcast youd hear it in the intro twice a week
(they do social/political stuff every now and then fyi, not to a great degree or anything tho)
― Banáná hÉireann (darraghmac), Thursday, 19 December 2019 23:36 (four years ago) link
You are literally the third person to recommend this to me in the last ten minutes!
― glindr jackson (gyac), Friday, 20 December 2019 00:02 (four years ago) link
we cant all be wrong
Richie sadlier will be president of ireland some day, mark my words.
― Banáná hÉireann (darraghmac), Friday, 20 December 2019 00:04 (four years ago) link
it's a good podcast
― gbx, Friday, 20 December 2019 00:08 (four years ago) link
I think probably most of us have seen this already, but for those who haven’t:
This letter in today’s @IrishTimes https://t.co/wqR6Bi1kSz pic.twitter.com/XWfvYE34BG— Hugh Linehan (@hlinehan) December 21, 2019
― glindr jackson (gyac), Monday, 23 December 2019 21:42 (four years ago) link
‘Irish Traveller Family’, Killorglin, County Kerry, Ireland, 1954 a fascinating Kodachrome by Inge Morath. I love this photo. pic.twitter.com/RyiENzbgb9— Davenant (@SirWilliamD) December 23, 2019
this Inge Morath pic is incredible. That it is a 20th century social history pic full of rich detail that is unmistakably from a long gone era and also looks like it could have been taken only yesterday - is just one of its many qualities.
― calzino, Monday, 23 December 2019 21:57 (four years ago) link
Thanks to both of you there - that letter is amazing, and so is the photo - my mother would have been 9 at the time.
― Andrew Farrell, Monday, 23 December 2019 22:41 (four years ago) link
There was a follow up to the letter: nb, it’s tough readinghttps://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/mother-grieving-loss-of-all-three-children-says-there-is-too-much-space-around-me-now-1.4122965
― glindr jackson (gyac), Monday, 23 December 2019 23:16 (four years ago) link
I see Liveline has spoken for the nation. Wtf is number 10?
Your high points of the last decade!! @RTENewsNow @rteliveline @rtenews pic.twitter.com/dGyRUp4xPF— JOE DUFFY (@joeliveline) December 23, 2019
― glindr jackson (gyac), Monday, 23 December 2019 23:23 (four years ago) link
"closure of head shops" not especially conducive to highs I would have thought
― britain's secret sauce (seandalai), Tuesday, 24 December 2019 00:16 (four years ago) link
Despite heavy rain, the wrenboys were out in force in Dingle collecting for charity.The west Kerry town is one of the last strongholds of the St Stephen's Day tradition that is believed to have pagan origins | Read more: https://t.co/dwWItCbqYD pic.twitter.com/wA4RFoprYv— RTÉ News (@rtenews) December 26, 2019
― glindr jackson (gyac), Thursday, 26 December 2019 23:19 (four years ago) link
So, this is when that Wenceslas dude did all that looking out at the snow, eh?
― A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 26 December 2019 23:46 (four years ago) link
Byrne aged quickly, like many Irishmen.
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 26 December 2019 21:42 (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink
:(
― Soup on my lanyard (Tom D.), Friday, 27 December 2019 12:36 (four years ago) link
I went from top pretty boy to getting stopped for police line-ups between the ages of 17 to 22. This is definitely a thing!
― calzino, Friday, 27 December 2019 12:45 (four years ago) link
hmph its prettier i get
― Banáná hÉireann (darraghmac), Friday, 27 December 2019 12:57 (four years ago) link
Depends very much on yr genes & lifestyle same as anyone else, there’s lots of variation in my own family
― glindr jackson (gyac), Friday, 27 December 2019 13:56 (four years ago) link
Is aoibhinn libh é a fheiceáilhttps://i.postimg.cc/6QC2VWSd/D32-E87-DC-8068-42-A1-968-D-5-BC90-E0-A7661.jpg
― glindr jackson (gyac), Tuesday, 31 December 2019 13:49 (four years ago) link
Come Out Ye Black n Tans No. 1 in Ireland, No. 3 in Britain ... Fine Gael got their answer .... https://t.co/3rOa8XiyEN— The Wolfe Tones 🇮🇪 (@wolfetones) January 9, 2020
this was retweeted by my main homey RLB. I always remember the Wolfe Tones - Rifles of the IRA album hidden at the back of the record shelf, like it might be illegal to own it!
― calzino, Thursday, 9 January 2020 14:18 (four years ago) link
Did RLB really retweet thT It’s not on her TL
― glindr jackson (gyac), Thursday, 9 January 2020 14:21 (four years ago) link
oh no it's someone using a play on her name, forget it.
― calzino, Thursday, 9 January 2020 14:24 (four years ago) link
these bloody twitterers and their hilarious spoonerisms!
― calzino, Thursday, 9 January 2020 14:25 (four years ago) link
Ten years ago: man slips on ice in Dublin. More with @rtearchives https://t.co/96jTx8I501— RTÉ (@rte) January 8, 2020
― glindr jackson (gyac), Thursday, 9 January 2020 14:29 (four years ago) link
have you not seen the plaque!
― Banáná hÉireann (darraghmac), Thursday, 9 January 2020 14:47 (four years ago) link
a terrible shame that an American company had to be the one to do it
― Number None, Thursday, 9 January 2020 15:03 (four years ago) link
― glindr jackson (gyac), Thursday, 9 January 2020 15:18 (four years ago) link
this was retweeted by my main homey RLB. I always remember the Wolfe Tones - Rifles of the IRA album hidden at the back of the record shelf, like it might be illegal to own
That 'Let the People Sing' album is a common sight in charity shops in Glasgow - or was.
― Frozen Mug (Tom D.), Thursday, 9 January 2020 15:33 (four years ago) link
Are you joking? Please be serious. Where is it?!?!
it's some 'viral marketing' courtesy of Coors Light
― Number None, Thursday, 9 January 2020 15:46 (four years ago) link
https://images.app.goo.gl/TGYVgZiV6QkGpbhp7
― Banáná hÉireann (darraghmac), Thursday, 9 January 2020 16:00 (four years ago) link
Rifles of the I.R.A. is the fourth album by Irish folk and rebel band The Wolfe Tones. The cover shows the band members dressed in the traditional dress of the IRA. The folk singer Christy Moore said of the cover, "I equate that particular record sleeve with Foster and Allen, dressed up as leprechauns. It was the very same thing. It had the same significance at the time.
The cover shows the band members dressed in the traditional dress of the IRA. The folk singer Christy Moore said of the cover, "I equate that particular record sleeve with Foster and Allen, dressed up as leprechauns. It was the very same thing. It had the same significance at the time.
C Moore wasn't impressed with that album cover
― calzino, Thursday, 9 January 2020 16:15 (four years ago) link
it is quite comical. as are the tones tbh - not that i don't know half their catalogue
― bidenfan69420 (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 9 January 2020 17:06 (four years ago) link
The Wolfe Tones are playing in a pub near me in upstate NY. Should I go see them?I found a bunch of their records in the bookshop of one of the local libraries a few years ago.
― tokyo rosemary, Thursday, 9 January 2020 17:15 (four years ago) link
bloody hell ...they still get about a bit! I can't remember much about their sound tbh.
― calzino, Thursday, 9 January 2020 17:37 (four years ago) link
Room for a Mighty Mighty Bosstones collaboration while they're in the States
― The Masked Zinger (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 9 January 2020 17:41 (four years ago) link
my wife saw them play at a midtown pub a few years ago (dragged by a friend, she had no idea what to expect) and said it was a good show but also a little alarming in its political fervor.― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 18:37 (thirteen years ago) bookmarkflaglink
― Banáná hÉireann (darraghmac), Thursday, 9 January 2020 17:45 (four years ago) link
like, if that sounds like yr bag.
twouldnt be mine
I see Come Out Ye Black and Tans is supposedly number one here too now? Diaspora i assume, confirms the most obvious Eurovision theory of them all.This poster doesn’t hold back!
Anti-recruitment poster in Enniscorthy (c. 1909): "Join the Army. Sell your souls, your country, and your God for the Saxon shilling. Join England's hireling murderers. Go to India, to murder women and children and shoot down men who are fighting for liberty." https://t.co/RdV1T0o94x— Liam Hogan (@Limerick1914) January 7, 2020
This poster featured heavily in Unionist political literature after a copy was reproduced by the Union Defence League ('Irish Facts' Vol. III) for propaganda purposes. pic.twitter.com/PVt9dDcsgG— Liam Hogan (@Limerick1914) January 7, 2020
― glindr jackson (gyac), Friday, 10 January 2020 09:40 (four years ago) link
My great granddad was one of them Irish sellouts for the Saxon shilling! He got quite badly disabled at Gallipoli and was lucky to survive because the ambulance ship that rescued him was taking sniper bullets or something. My historian minded uncle who has the full story is currently dying of prostate cancer and the NHS can't operate on him because his kidneys are gone, but I'm it was a good story iirc but i just can't remember most of it.
― calzino, Friday, 10 January 2020 09:57 (four years ago) link
Maybe we can get #ComeOutYeBlackAndTans to number 1 in China too. pic.twitter.com/4Cj5fUViLU— Des Bishop 毕瀚生 (@Desbishop) January 9, 2020
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 10 January 2020 13:54 (four years ago) link
Aertel chichttps://i2.wp.com/www.theglassmagazine.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/MSK_RobynLynch-21.jpg
― VOTE! In the 2019 EOY Poll (seandalai), Saturday, 11 January 2020 01:07 (four years ago) link
https://www.rte.ie/news/2020/0114/1107299-election-announcement-tracker/Ádh mór dúinn
― steer karma (gyac), Tuesday, 14 January 2020 11:22 (four years ago) link
Ireland's rail network, 100 years ago vs now. Seriously. pic.twitter.com/8bO8p7dFfG— Dr Shaun O'Boyle 🏳️🌈 (@shaunoboyle) January 22, 2020
looks even worse than what the Beeching Cuts did to the UK.
― calzino, Thursday, 23 January 2020 14:21 (four years ago) link
That’s hardly the worst thing about ithttps://youtu.be/SW-tdaO2s9o
― steer karma (gyac), Thursday, 23 January 2020 14:23 (four years ago) link
the mid 20th century rolling stock with asbestos lined ceilings at least had comfy chairs with enough knee-space for anyone over five ft tall. Although that won't save you from an insufferable Gleeson clone! How did that crap how so many credits at the end?
― calzino, Thursday, 23 January 2020 14:45 (four years ago) link
That wasn’t a Gleeson clone, that’s him!
― steer karma (gyac), Thursday, 23 January 2020 14:47 (four years ago) link
it just goes to show, never give up hope - keep chasing those dreams!
― calzino, Thursday, 23 January 2020 14:55 (four years ago) link
Absolutely dying at this shite
Varadkar’ s FG, campaigning on anti-British “small Country” ticket down 7 points. https://t.co/b2oQZEcQbF— Andrew Neil (@afneil) February 1, 2020
― hyds (gyac), Saturday, 1 February 2020 11:11 (four years ago) link
amazing analysis, seems to take in all of the wait what
― BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Saturday, 1 February 2020 11:28 (four years ago) link
im sure he'll be bothered enough to come back and explain that he believes that the 7 lost by fg were specifically turned off by that, but they are a totally different 7 that went to the lads
truly the worst of all possible gaffes by the indian fella, whose name isnt even oreilly
― BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Saturday, 1 February 2020 11:31 (four years ago) link
Leo is such a fan of the Brits that they had a totally unnecessary row with half the country about the RIC commemorations.
― hyds (gyac), Saturday, 1 February 2020 11:33 (four years ago) link
Lewis Goodall is in Ireland for the election
When Labour said they were mass canvassing they got it all wrong pic.twitter.com/iW83VXn7h4— Lewis Goodall (@lewis_goodall) February 3, 2020
Ireland, Red C poll:SF-LEFT: 24% (+5)FF-RE: 24% (-2) FG-EPP: 21% (-2)GREEN-G/EFA: 7% (-1)LAB-S&D: 5% (+1)SD-S&D: 3%AONTÚ-*: 2% (+1)S-PBP-LEFT: 1% (-1)+/- vs. 16-22 JanFieldwork: 25-30 January 2020Sample size: 1,000Polling average: https://t.co/Pjh0Ruzgg3#GE2020 pic.twitter.com/rGMCEcTeZs— Europe Elects (@EuropeElects) February 1, 2020
― hyds (gyac), Monday, 3 February 2020 14:59 (four years ago) link
So what happens if the lads get the nod?
― Swilling Ambergris, Esq. (silby), Monday, 3 February 2020 15:30 (four years ago) link
Kneecapping for some, miniature Irish flags for others.
― hyds (gyac), Monday, 3 February 2020 15:34 (four years ago) link
afraid to post tbh
― BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Monday, 3 February 2020 15:37 (four years ago) link
Idk, I am curious about it myself. If people are voting SF, FF/FG only have themselves to blame. This article was telling.
― hyds (gyac), Monday, 3 February 2020 15:49 (four years ago) link
agreed that only a failure of ff/fg brings any other party in as a major player
sf rise is prob attributable to those two both in govt together as well as fg failing to ensure that any benefits of 'recovery' are felt outside of the economic fundamentals on bank balance sheets and propertied class equity ratios
― BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Monday, 3 February 2020 16:05 (four years ago) link
Yep.Can’t wait for the coverage here if they get in!
― hyds (gyac), Monday, 3 February 2020 16:12 (four years ago) link
Mary-Lou in the leaders debate now
― hyds (gyac), Monday, 3 February 2020 16:15 (four years ago) link
I was over in the stronghold of Peadar Tóibín, who is the stronghold of Aontú, at the weekend - coming back from the UK, it is a little wild to see that their priorities are a lot of solid left-wing policies on immigration, tenants rights, collective bargaining, zero hour, oh yeah and also life begins at conception ("the human rights debate of our generation") and did I mention I used to be in Sinn Fein and yes we have a policy on Crime and Anti-Social Behaviour and that is 'policy to come'
Oh yeah but most importantly bring the train back to Navan!
I mean, this is also what happens when a party is largely a one man band, I get it.
― Andrew Farrell, Monday, 3 February 2020 16:21 (four years ago) link
― hyds (gyac), Monday, 3 February 2020 15:34 (forty-six minutes ago)
Genuine lol, followed by a decision as to whether I really wanted to explain to my coworkers.
(and the awareness that I'd have to explain the Simpsons to some of them)
― Andrew Farrell, Monday, 3 February 2020 16:23 (four years ago) link
ni cheapaim
― BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Monday, 3 February 2020 16:47 (four years ago) link
So is their platform just staring forebodingly into the camera in sober suits and mirrorshades
― Swilling Ambergris, Esq. (silby), Monday, 3 February 2020 16:51 (four years ago) link
more likehttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/DeIqobNWAAAaXgs.jpgChrist! Having a woman Taoiseach would nearly go by unremarked
― hyds (gyac), Monday, 3 February 2020 16:55 (four years ago) link
Aww now there’s a fun lookin bunch
― Swilling Ambergris, Esq. (silby), Monday, 3 February 2020 16:55 (four years ago) link
There were also a lot of FG posters - putting up three candidates to FF's one - but mostly just Leo's face, outnumbering the other FGs put together.
― Andrew Farrell, Monday, 3 February 2020 17:00 (four years ago) link
i think that sf are ~mainly~ being considered/otherwise on their policies this time around, which is def a first
― BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Monday, 3 February 2020 17:00 (four years ago) link
fg failing to ensure that any benefits of 'recovery' are felt outside of the economic fundamentals on bank balance sheets and propertied class equity ratios
When FG came into power, joblessness was in excess of 15%. We now have full employment and steadily-rising wages, so it’s not like it’s been a recovery only for the elite. Frustration about property prices is wholly understandable, but there are deep structural issues at play in the market that any government would have struggled to overcome in the aftermath of such a deep recession. The rise of SF is down to their unabashed populism. It’s the traditional Irish electoral cycle: now that the adults have tidied up the playroom, we’re going to lock them out and start flinging custard pies around again.
― Vast Halo, Monday, 3 February 2020 17:01 (four years ago) link
should make it clear that im dangerously close to being ok with FG as far as ilx goes so this i dont comment from a position of anti-govt nor a natural inclination for either FF/SF support
but baseline drop to the usual "0" unemployment does not necessarily equate to that work or the work of anyone earning below x amount being something that they will gratefully thank the govt of the day for when rent, commute, creche fees are taken into account.
the cost of surviving is a huge factor in this coming election and nine years is a long time for any party in charge to be shrugging its shoulders at that.
there's def room for a quality analysis of what housing in particular is doing to the vote, but the recovery as it has happened has been
and listen, ask anyone about this next line coming from *me*
off the backs of the worker, into the wealth of the propertied classes and investor classes
and its telling that leo, a fella not known for his humility nor his bendy neck, leads hos re-election leaflet with five bullet point apologies.
his stint as taoiseach simply hasnt delivered what he said it would, not that his promises were designed to please an ilx audience, but the recovery has been as much on paper as so much of the crash was, and people have 13 years lived and worked since 2007 and are not nearly as much better off as they would want nor deserve in the majority of cases
― BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Monday, 3 February 2020 17:12 (four years ago) link
None of that means anything when people can’t afford to move out or start families and are legit being priced out of their own country? Like I think about returning all the time and it’s not even a possibility because of the housing issue. Thinking it’s for any other reason is wilful ignorance.
― hyds (gyac), Monday, 3 February 2020 17:13 (four years ago) link
Also speaking as someone in London, the homelessness situation is fucking disgraceful.
― hyds (gyac), Monday, 3 February 2020 17:14 (four years ago) link
like
my wages, and hello ladies no im married im afraid, have close to trebled since 2007
it is not poseur stuff (ive nobody here to impress!) to state that i had more cash in my pocket then.
i moved up to dublin for career purposes in 2012 (also following a girl but lookit) and even though ive doubled my income since then, im definitely worse off than i was between say 2012-2015
the cost of living, the quality of living/working life, has absolutely plummeted ime- and my experience is probably substantially better than the many who have had families since, earn less than i, have more impetus to buy, need to live near school/family
a govt that does not build housing on a massive scale wont see two years imo
― BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Monday, 3 February 2020 17:32 (four years ago) link
lol I think of the way I lived in 2007/8 off basically no money and like I could never do it nowadays. Almost everything costs tons, my mother was shocked when I said £100 was a lot of money for me (lol it is), because my cost of living is a lot lower here in some ways. Even being bled dry commuting we still have a house and we don’t commute as long as the people in the article. But then I can count double figures of people I know who’ve emigrated just to have some quality of life. It’s not in people’s imagination, that the country is harder and harder to live in every year. The old sow that eats her farrow and all that.
― hyds (gyac), Monday, 3 February 2020 17:37 (four years ago) link
Good points, well made. I agree that FG should have moved with a lot more swiftness and purpose on the issues surrounding housing and the cost of living. They could argue that they were preoccupied with negotiating a path through the Brexit clusterfuck, and maybe history will eventually show that they were right to prioritise that?Mainly, though, if I’m making points in their favour, it’s because I’m appalled by the prospect of SF as kingmakers.
― Vast Halo, Monday, 3 February 2020 17:41 (four years ago) link
Think there is something also to be said for the sense of crushing reality, like my generation (and maybe deems’s too? cough) were being told in school we were a generation who wouldn’t have to emigrate, who could live near our parents and send our children to local schools, and then...you look at our parents having done these things and it’s hard not to feel cheated. People working harder and harder and never getting what they thought they would. Not surprising at all.
― hyds (gyac), Monday, 3 February 2020 17:43 (four years ago) link
I mean, I’m Irish living in Britain, if I haven’t hammered that point home enough, and I wouldn’t give a fuck if Leo was mishandling Brexit if there was a home I could escape to easily.
Out of sheer curiosity gyac, why did you emigrate to the UK in particular?
― toilet-cleaning brain surgeon (pomenitul), Monday, 3 February 2020 17:45 (four years ago) link
Had the bad luck to be made redundant right as the banking crisis hit. Was seeing SV at the time and it just expedited what was inevitable.
― hyds (gyac), Monday, 3 February 2020 17:48 (four years ago) link
Makes sense, thanks.
― toilet-cleaning brain surgeon (pomenitul), Monday, 3 February 2020 17:50 (four years ago) link
im mid generation, twas the class after me chronologically and the class above me societally that were told such things
in fact, familial constraints keeping me in the wesht and delaying college prob saved me from having purchased in/around 2006 tbf so yknow not entirely unlucky
VH i hear you. i think SF havent a single coherent policy that i trust them to be able to spin into action, amd i have grave doubts as to the way in which they would react to that or the changes they would seek to eg the civil service when they perceived that they were being checked in their aims etc etc
but the fair facts also state that fg will have let them in by refusing to countenance measures that hurt property prices. afaict, thats the long and the short of their policy on housing- " any type of fix ye like as long as ye buy in at 400k like everyone else did"
and the inability to consider solutions to dublin being the only show in town is the next huge black mark.
so FG served their masters as well as youd have expected, delivering the right kind of recovery to their core vote, i guess.
pls god they havent made an FF voter of me, but yknow id like to own a house at some stage, or at least pay a fair amount of rent for one that doesnt involve the current sacrifice of commute, or 35% income, or etc etc and unforch i dont see anyone emerging from this shitshow willing to buy the vote of the renter/wannabe i mean im happy to show a bit of leg and ff are the only ones even looking at me oh god
― BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Monday, 3 February 2020 17:54 (four years ago) link
stayed west for a girl, moved to dub for a girl, jesus idk why do i bother voting at all my circumstances are purely determined by a succession of herselves tbh
― BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Monday, 3 February 2020 18:00 (four years ago) link
I loled, even if I do feel a bit burned by your last post. But ia, they should stop men voting.
― hyds (gyac), Monday, 3 February 2020 18:10 (four years ago) link
if twere as easy as stopping the right ppl from voting then sf would already be in wha
― BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Monday, 3 February 2020 18:12 (four years ago) link
We’d already have the Mother and Child scheme!
― hyds (gyac), Monday, 3 February 2020 18:13 (four years ago) link
a family in every home in every field in every county
and boys....we do mean....~~~every county~~~~~
― BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Monday, 3 February 2020 18:14 (four years ago) link
Honestly, we didn’t deserve Noel Browne. Always one of the bits of history that made me angriest!
― hyds (gyac), Monday, 3 February 2020 18:17 (four years ago) link
well you need the likes of him to take the hit bytimes, such is the nature of it
todays equivalent is peader toibin y/n?
― BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Monday, 3 February 2020 18:19 (four years ago) link
LEAID
― hyds (gyac), Monday, 3 February 2020 18:21 (four years ago) link
hee
― BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Monday, 3 February 2020 18:22 (four years ago) link
anyway where does a voter go but towards the unknown?
― BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Monday, 3 February 2020 18:23 (four years ago) link
More polls!
#ge2020 EARTHQUAKE poll by Ipsos/MRBI for @IrishTimes.Full breakdown:Sinn Féin 25% (+4)Fianna Fáil 23% (-2)Fine Gael 20% (-3)Greens 8% (-)Labour 4% (-1)Others (Soc Dems, Sol/PBP, Inds) 20% (+2) https://t.co/VTDMw6GigI— Richard Chambers (@newschambers) February 3, 2020
Fine Gael have been very concerned about Munster (where a number of issues including the RIC commemoration have particularly hit home) The Ipsos/MRBI data would appear to show those fears were well founded... The party struggling badly.Ind/Others 27SF 25FF 21FG 16#ge2020 pic.twitter.com/7wn39XwnIt— Richard Chambers (@newschambers) February 3, 2020
― hyds (gyac), Monday, 3 February 2020 23:21 (four years ago) link
really depressing to see the 'adults in the room' 'difficult decisions' narrative still having traction here wrt ff/fg bipartisan structural adjustment approaches. i fail to see how falling in line with troika measures in the way Ireland did and continues to do can be seen as the 'grown up' response, in many ways the opposite. There is something desperately infantilistic about Ireland's perennial appetite for self-flagellation and it gave an easy foil for the axis powers to drive toward a vision of 'recovery' that was about all bond-ratings and very little about standards of living for ordinary people. A real grownup approach would ask real questions about what the economy is supposed to do for whom rather than solidifying the country's reliance on its status as a tax-haven without paying the dividends to its citizens that other countries operating a similar wheeze do.
It is amazing that 2008 has seemingly had such a long-lasting effect, it does seem to have knocked the presumption that one or other of the melt parties will win at each election, at least somewhat.
However I think it should be mentioned that the rise of SF in the polls is so clearly about how tarnished a figure Gerry Adams is. It would have been unthinkable for most Irish people to vote for a party led by him. Also how popular McD is, and has always been a fairly well-liked figure by the public at large. The photo someone posted does really get at her appeal, and there has long been a suspicion that SF might have have actual electoral prospects under her for those reasons combined. But I think this polling suggests something I've always suspected, which goes beyond mere populism: that republicanism has remained much closer to the surface in the irish imaginary than one might have imagined from recent cultural production. That is, despite all the enthusiasm for the queen's visit etc, republican sympathies remain fairly common but little discussed publicly. I suspect brexit and the shall we say less than grown up way that uk politicians and the media have conducted themselves wrt anglo-irish relations has somewhat inflamed this tendency.
― plax (ico), Tuesday, 4 February 2020 19:40 (four years ago) link
i think thats a very good post that i agree with very little of
but if the 'melt' shite makes it way into this thread it will be a sad aul day
― BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Tuesday, 4 February 2020 19:45 (four years ago) link
Yeah melt doesn’t fit Irish politics. Agree with plaxico’s thoughts on Mary Lou though.
― hyds (gyac), Tuesday, 4 February 2020 20:41 (four years ago) link
Axis powers more appropriate?
― plax (ico), Tuesday, 4 February 2020 21:27 (four years ago) link
hee its v promising certainly, run with it and we'll see where it leads
im half beginning to think martin goes before FF/SF govt forms tbh
― BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Tuesday, 4 February 2020 22:11 (four years ago) link
Is there truly a portion of the electorate who were morally repelled by Adams, but who have persuaded themselves that his recent retirement (and McGuinness's death) has somehow wiped the slate clean for SF? An organisation that acted for decades as the (nominally) political wing of the IRA? I get that many people are keen to signal their dissatisfaction with the establishment, but I won't accept that the answer is to vote for a party that is riddled with apologists for mass murder.
― Vast Halo, Tuesday, 4 February 2020 22:16 (four years ago) link
its hard to answer from any one perspective, that
plenty of the electorate not morally repelled by adams/mcguinness (or certainly, in and out of different contexts that effect waxed and waned) post GFA
i dont buy that this suggests a simmering republican core tbh, but i do think that there is a latent willingness in the south to be convinced that the actions and justifications for those actions taken by northern catholics post 1970 can be accepted as sincere/righteous, and that widespread abhorrence within the mainstream of the ROI base of any one or any select several particularly indefensible incidents is no more a full picture of our complex relationship with republicanism than is an often obvious fondness for jarry the grandad figure who brought the provos in and got the guns silenced.
FF rump was stuffed with apologists for the ra throughout, for a start. and certainly they would not be heard proclaiming a total disregard for the cause unless it were expedient in particular circumstance to do so throughout all of haugheys tenure.
post GFA obviously everything changes, and post adams/mcguinness it changes again.
i think kenny was the last leader who would get away with casting those stones as a distraction/frontal assault and make it look sincere, and thats down to temporal factors as much as anything else.
SF are now a political party operating as far as one must treat it as any other legitimate such entity and i dont think that the historical- and i know some of this dirt goes back only as far as 2007, and i know people within the party linger that know things that ought carry more of a stench of cordite, bit hey is that not true of plenty of ppl around the political arena?- questions around this issue are as important to the electorate as you seem to expect.
personally i dont rate them as a party but plenty like what they see and hear from them, and as a third option id struggle to defend the first two getting in because of bogeyman whispers or dire warnings.
― BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Tuesday, 4 February 2020 23:09 (four years ago) link
xp they have a lot of young voters and a lot of older too, the latter are surprising for that reason. ime younger people are more strongly republican in their views, even down south, especially if they’re into politics and pay attention to what’s going on in the UK. Very different vibe from my age group, though I would consider myself republican too (not to the extent of voting SF though).The morality point loses a bit of its strength when you’ve got the British government trying to let on Bloody Sunday wasn‘t a crime.
― hyds (gyac), Tuesday, 4 February 2020 23:36 (four years ago) link
And not just wasn't but couldn't be, that the asking of the question is shameful.
― Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 5 February 2020 00:40 (four years ago) link
any rate they havent run enough candidates and c.30 seats seems about likely
i think that progress but serving necessary bench time is pretty much where they are
its very unlikely that FF lead FG into a reversed supply/confidence govt next time around if only because both parties will have to have realised by now that it hurt them both more than it gained em, tho ofc FF needed to wear the sackcloth anyways
leos been a bad taoiseach and coveney will fancy it very soon after the election unless theres an unexpected seat return far ahead of the projected %
― BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 00:47 (four years ago) link
I admit I'm not clear what the '(nominally)' is doing there - d'you mean that the division between the political and the actual was in name only?
― Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 5 February 2020 00:49 (four years ago) link
(to Vast Halo)
ferris alone breaks the winking act tbf
― BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 00:51 (four years ago) link
(xp) Yes, that's what I meant. They insisted otherwise, but the fact is that for many years, the same two men headed up both the party and the IRA's army council.
― Vast Halo, Wednesday, 5 February 2020 21:28 (four years ago) link
Irish English replaces British English as EU working language - https://t.co/TLE5TSkMDh via @shareaholic— Tony Connelly (@tconnellyRTE) February 5, 2020
― hyds (gyac), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 21:52 (four years ago) link
👍
As it should be.
― toilet-cleaning brain surgeon (pomenitul), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 21:53 (four years ago) link
tairgead achieved
― BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 22:01 (four years ago) link
First the spelling, then the syntax https://i.postimg.cc/xjbDNYY0/6793861-D-89-EE-41-DD-BEE9-5-BDBD57-A63-EF.jpg
― hyds (gyac), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 22:07 (four years ago) link
Closer to 'avez-vous' so everyone wins.
― toilet-cleaning brain surgeon (pomenitul), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 22:08 (four years ago) link
Irish does have a number of words that originate from French, hardly surprising given the Normans. There’s airgead (money/silver), the old word for church is eaglis, bread is a sliced pan, there’s others but these are the ones I think of immediately. Or maybe just from Latin?Anyway, here’s what’s happening in the heartlands.
― hyds (gyac), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 22:18 (four years ago) link
Interesting!
I was thinking more in terms of the syntax, as 'do you have' is actually a bit of an odd turn of phrase from the perspective of Romance languages (and, I assume, others as well). That said, I vaguely recall reading that it was in fact due to the Celtic influence, so the plot thickens...
― toilet-cleaning brain surgeon (pomenitul), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 22:23 (four years ago) link
garsún in Munster Irish = garçon is one I remember xp
― seandalai, Wednesday, 5 February 2020 22:24 (four years ago) link
gásún/r in the west
― BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 22:31 (four years ago) link
I was hoping one of ye would chip in as I thought that but it’s not my dialect!xps to pom Irish is a VSO language, see more here for syntax info.
― hyds (gyac), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 22:37 (four years ago) link
I take it back, the Celtic influence re: 'do you...' in English is a hypothesis among many:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Do-support#Origins
― toilet-cleaning brain surgeon (pomenitul), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 22:43 (four years ago) link
always thing german/irish have a lot of the same things going on
― BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 22:44 (four years ago) link
Tbf English is a Germanic language. What was that quip? 'French badly spoken by Germans'.
― toilet-cleaning brain surgeon (pomenitul), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 22:46 (four years ago) link
Are you talking about the sign? Cos that’s almost a direct translation from the Irish, and reflects the use of prepositional pronouns in the language.
― hyds (gyac), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 22:47 (four years ago) link
English is a bastard with many parents!
― hyds (gyac), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 22:49 (four years ago) link
Bbc Newsnight is doing a report on our election btw, switch over now (it’s not on yet)
― hyds (gyac), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 22:54 (four years ago) link
im only led to believe, now, i dont speak either tbf
xp no fuckin thanks, anyways im listening to the freeman podcast
― BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 22:58 (four years ago) link
I learned German for a few years and can confirm. Would be useful for any language you need to make a coughing up phlegm sound for as well.
― hyds (gyac), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 23:00 (four years ago) link
“Sinn Féin is the most notable party to British eyes”
― hyds (gyac), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 23:01 (four years ago) link
I notice he’s pronouncing “Dáil” RTÉ style
MIKHAIL Martin, fuck me this is hard going
― hyds (gyac), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 23:03 (four years ago) link
tis only yerself puttin ya thru it kiddo
― BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 23:11 (four years ago) link
Here’s inside one of Dublin’s new legal bedsitsYou can’t open the bathroom door without hitting the bed.Smaller than a disabled car park space. For €1,300 a month.https://t.co/VSlyiXkdPd pic.twitter.com/sFFfrWFSKe— Paul O'Donoghue (@paulodonoghue93) February 5, 2020
“As you can see, a nice, compact studio,” said the estate agent..
the O'Donoghue piece in the Murdoch rag is paywalled though the pic and brief summary gives you most of the narrative.
― calzino, Thursday, 6 February 2020 08:17 (four years ago) link
Yeah housing is fucking awful in Dublin. The journal used to run a feature with the worst listings on daft.ie every month.
― hyds (gyac), Thursday, 6 February 2020 08:35 (four years ago) link
first time I saw bed sized rooms like that was in London in the 90's. Straight faced estate agent showing me a ground floor bedsit the size of a bed what for you'd pay for a 3 bedroom house in the north. And this was Old Kent Road - so I went to sub Monopoly board areas like Plumstead/Woolwich thinking it might be cheaper and guess what.. it wasn't. Maybe should have gone further SE like Bexleyheath or Erith!
― calzino, Thursday, 6 February 2020 08:41 (four years ago) link
When we lived in London we paid basically nothing for our rent comparatively, but the flat had no front door separating it from the other flats, and the shower was in the bedroom.
― hyds (gyac), Thursday, 6 February 2020 09:00 (four years ago) link
that seems an alright standard finish of a place at least tbf, and the single-person renter that needs a place by themselves for whatever reason is badly in need of this type of development (ideally that all the doors could open, fair enough)
course, 400 a month is the absolute fuckin max they should be paying for it, else hang everyone involved.
― BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Thursday, 6 February 2020 09:00 (four years ago) link
heh wait, that's a *2* person unit wheres me scaffold
― BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Thursday, 6 February 2020 09:02 (four years ago) link
Getting fleeced by landlords, can’t cross the thresholdWait a minute:"Where's me scaffold? Where's me scaffold? Where's me scaffold?"
― hyds (gyac), Thursday, 6 February 2020 09:12 (four years ago) link
✓
― BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Thursday, 6 February 2020 09:13 (four years ago) link
its alright to say things can only get better when you havent been a smithfield lettor
Eat natural food baked twice dailyAnd leftovers again, cos you’re savingDon't drink tea and don't drink coffeeStare at your wall and dream of toffee
― hyds (gyac), Thursday, 6 February 2020 09:19 (four years ago) link
literally eating toffee rn, no recession here
― BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Thursday, 6 February 2020 09:24 (four years ago) link
Ye voting? Love the traditional THE BOXES ARE GOING TO THE ISLANDS story.
― hyds (gyac), Saturday, 8 February 2020 09:49 (four years ago) link
Good luck Eire!
― Le Bateau Ivre, Saturday, 8 February 2020 09:49 (four years ago) link
Actual eco fascists found!
https://www.facebook.com/380210362718140/posts/669047833834390/?d=n
― Andrew Farrell, Saturday, 8 February 2020 09:56 (four years ago) link
vote long gone, they clean those registers up pretty fast. surprisingly so considering getting on in the first place involved filling out a for that had been photocopied to the point of illegibility and the process did not exactly suggest administrative efficiency
― plax (ico), Saturday, 8 February 2020 09:57 (four years ago) link
i have voted
ye can ask if ye like, im all about openness
― BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Saturday, 8 February 2020 10:00 (four years ago) link
Who’s going to be the first to post a shot of voting nuns itt?
This changes everything. (via detective pals @eoinwilson and @ewanfromdublin).A thread.— Michael Pidgeon (@Pidge) May 24, 2018
― hyds (gyac), Saturday, 8 February 2020 10:14 (four years ago) link
― hyds (gyac), Saturday, 8 February 2020 10:17 (four years ago) link
Lol at this (surprisingly educational) video!
Voters across the country will cast their ballot in #GE2020 using the Single Transferable Vote, with people able to rank their candidates in order of preference. @news2dayRTE enlisted the help of pupils at Glenbeg NS in Dungarvan to explain the system | https://t.co/Sz3eM8tLPm pic.twitter.com/KpoutPd2rG— RTÉ News (@rtenews) February 7, 2020
― hyds (gyac), Saturday, 8 February 2020 10:44 (four years ago) link
I’m still on the register and I emigrated 11 years ago!
― hyds (gyac), Saturday, 8 February 2020 10:17 (forty-one minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
I moved 10 and I was off it a year later
― plax (ico), Saturday, 8 February 2020 10:59 (four years ago) link
yer local td prob has a lot to do with it, ring is famous for managing the register around my home home
― BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Saturday, 8 February 2020 11:00 (four years ago) link
Because I'm a person of low moral character, there were until last year three things that were still sent to my mother's old place (and begrudgingly delivered the five minutes walk to where she lives now with my sister):
* Trinity Today, because alumni magazines will survive the death of the universe.* Bank statements for an AIB account which has, no word of a lie, €0.01 in it.* Things related to me being on the electoral register, which is mostly voting cards but last October, when my sister gave me a few years' worth of stuff at once, a jury duty notice for later that month!
They're very clear that you have to return the form with whatever you're pleading and any supporting information, and when I rang to ask what I should put, they said "Just put that you don't live in Ireland any more". This seemed too easy, so I later checked that at least I'd be taken off the electoral register and they said no, but we'll put you through now, and the next one said yes that'll be done, no we won't email you a receipt or anything.
My voting card arrived a few weeks ago, I'm told.
― Andrew Farrell, Saturday, 8 February 2020 11:06 (four years ago) link
* Bank statements for an AIB account which has, no word of a lie, €0.01 in it.
the student account set up the thursday before first classes to get all the clobber, hah?
― BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Saturday, 8 February 2020 11:11 (four years ago) link
i remember aib being allowed into my primary school to sign us all up for accounts with £1 in them
― plax (ico), Saturday, 8 February 2020 12:37 (four years ago) link
I think I got removed when I explained why I couldn't turn up in Bray for jury duty.
Last year BOI cottoned on to the fact that I might not be a student *checks notes* 19 years after I started university.
― seandalai, Saturday, 8 February 2020 14:47 (four years ago) link
I also have an account with €0.01 in it, but I feel like I heard they charge you money to close them, so fuck that.
― hyds (gyac), Saturday, 8 February 2020 14:50 (four years ago) link
Yessssshttps://img.rasset.ie/0013912e-614.jpg?ratio=1.78
The first voting nuns of #GE20 https://t.co/AFFn21sBTx pic.twitter.com/rxist2EfLJ— broadsheet_ie (@broadsheet_ie) February 8, 2020
― hyds (gyac), Saturday, 8 February 2020 15:10 (four years ago) link
thank god, i was afrit
― BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Saturday, 8 February 2020 15:15 (four years ago) link
SF didn't run enough candidates
― in twelve parts (lamonti), Sunday, 9 February 2020 19:33 (four years ago) link
Irish politics discussion thread
― BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Sunday, 9 February 2020 19:40 (four years ago) link
Irish men the 'undisputed ugliest' in the world, according to dating website for 'beautiful people'https://t.co/sWt3Avya0D— Irish Daily Mirror (@IrishMirror) February 16, 2020
A new poll by picky international dating site beautifulpeople.com has seen Irish males slip to the foot of a table of the world’s most attractive nationalities.Just six per cent of Irish single men who applied to land their profiles on the elite Los Angeles-based site were successful - less than any other nationality, and officially Ireland’s worst-ever result in the site’s annual nation-by-nation ‘beauty charts’.In contrast Ireland’s women have climbed up the table to sixth overall in the world - their highest-ever ranking and tied with France, with an impressive 35 percent acceptance rate.Further analysis of Ireland’s data - which is taken from statistics from the island of Ireland as a whole - reveals Dublin to be home to the “most attractive” inhabitants, followed by Cork, Galway and then Belfast. However, romance-hunters from Limerick were most likely to be rejected.
― hyds (gyac), Monday, 17 February 2020 09:45 (four years ago) link
Come on though, you're top at something.
― Load up your rubber wallets (Tom D.), Monday, 17 February 2020 09:48 (four years ago) link
I think you’ll see the women aren’t included in that? 😶
― hyds (gyac), Monday, 17 February 2020 09:50 (four years ago) link
The men have written their name in the history books though.
― Load up your rubber wallets (Tom D.), Monday, 17 February 2020 09:50 (four years ago) link
cant be denied, taken as bunch the rural fellas are still carrying a lot of the impacts of generational famine-traceable poverty
and we dont rly have the climate to work on the beach bod or tan
hairlines ate an issue an all
just as well we have the charm
― BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Monday, 17 February 2020 10:06 (four years ago) link
have we a government yet
― hyds (gyac), Wednesday, 19 February 2020 07:54 (four years ago) link
just a civil service, itll be ok
― BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Wednesday, 19 February 2020 08:43 (four years ago) link
Previous ministers stay in post till a new government forms so, yes.
― 29 facepalms, Wednesday, 19 February 2020 09:01 (four years ago) link
Idk why you thought I didn’t know this. xp we’re in safe hands with ye running the place anyway.
― hyds (gyac), Wednesday, 19 February 2020 09:03 (four years ago) link
*spends entire morning trying to compose a topical limerick that doesn't mis-stress the word "limerick" *
― mark s, Wednesday, 19 February 2020 11:00 (four years ago) link
Correct pronunciation is two syllables, fyi
― hyds (gyac), Wednesday, 19 February 2020 11:01 (four years ago) link
depends on whether you need to rhyme with mrick for the county or boyyyyyyyy for the cidddyyyy tbh
― BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Wednesday, 19 February 2020 11:18 (four years ago) link
It’s pronounced “biy”.
― hyds (gyac), Wednesday, 19 February 2020 11:26 (four years ago) link
*morning becomes longer*
― mark s, Wednesday, 19 February 2020 11:39 (four years ago) link
its pronounced langer
― BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Wednesday, 19 February 2020 12:10 (four years ago) link
Dáil is trying to pick a Taoiseach, will I be fucked watching the whole thing? Depends how delayed this train is. Anyway, here’s the link.https://www.pscp.tv/w/cR7I43R3LTI4ODE2MzM4MTV8MXlOeGFReWFQbGd4at4X_ZE1eK-ehsBsOoH3XdQmmmHhCsuI4skHSWv1w5cn
― hyds (gyac), Thursday, 20 February 2020 18:36 (four years ago) link
Is it in order for TDs to address the chamber in Irish, how many of them do/can
― Swilling Ambergris, Esq. (silby), Thursday, 20 February 2020 19:00 (four years ago) link
its in order, id say more do than can tbh
― BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Thursday, 20 February 2020 19:07 (four years ago) link
game of them
― Swilling Ambergris, Esq. (silby), Thursday, 20 February 2020 19:14 (four years ago) link
― Load up your rubber wallets (Tom D.), Thursday, 20 February 2020 19:15 (four years ago) link
lolTrying to think how long it’s been since we had a Taoiseach who actually had Gaeilge? Is Michael D the nearest thing we have atm? Not that my spoken Irish is anything to brag about either (my worst LC subject!)
― hyds (gyac), Thursday, 20 February 2020 19:24 (four years ago) link
id be surprised
oh fuck
― BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Thursday, 20 February 2020 19:26 (four years ago) link
i was about to say michéal jesus
sorry michéal
What? I’m on a train with intermittent signal, pls take pity on me
― hyds (gyac), Thursday, 20 February 2020 19:27 (four years ago) link
bruton would v likely have had learned gaeilge i shouldve thought
― BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Thursday, 20 February 2020 19:27 (four years ago) link
gyac id literally half typed michéal martin prob has it and i remembered oof yes but never been taoiseach has he
― BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Thursday, 20 February 2020 19:28 (four years ago) link
v hard to say had enda it. id say he did maybe, hid a lot of light under a bushel did enda tbh
I thought MM would too with the name and being from cork like but no apparently not?
― hyds (gyac), Thursday, 20 February 2020 19:29 (four years ago) link
i didnt do Irish from christmas 5th year on, after dropping to pass
chafed on me, the mandatory aspect, well, everything about gaeilge chafes on me except the gaeilge itself tbh
― BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Thursday, 20 February 2020 19:30 (four years ago) link
Lol I thought the prick had been elected somehow there don’t scare me please
― hyds (gyac), Thursday, 20 February 2020 19:30 (four years ago) link
hmm
id say mm, ek would speak it better than a lot who speak it badly and claim fluency, dye get me
― BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Thursday, 20 February 2020 19:31 (four years ago) link
mechawl will be taoiseach sooner than later, as well to brace for it
Only man ever to be Taoiseach to save face
― hyds (gyac), Thursday, 20 February 2020 19:32 (four years ago) link
What manner of humiliation will he put up with for the Wikipedia category? We can only watch and hope
― hyds (gyac), Thursday, 20 February 2020 19:33 (four years ago) link
it's gonna be the tradeoff equivalent of when the greens agreed to the bank guarantee in return for closing three mink farms in donegal
anyway its been a busy week at work and a quiet week in politics, but rest assured i wouldnt let ye miss anything
fg have stayed very firm, have actually stepped up direct attacks on sf in order to leave ff the pressured candidate
sf candidates, actually under the eye of the media that were happy just to lol cordite the party during the campaign, starting to look a bit dodge
ff, the longer theyre left, are starting to develop collective nervous tics
the second captains podcast on the immediate aftermath was exceptional btw, it asked pretty much everything i wanted to hear asked and most of the answers left me better informed or thinking a little differently
― BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Thursday, 20 February 2020 19:40 (four years ago) link
Best electoral system in the woreld.
― Load up your rubber wallets (Tom D.), Thursday, 20 February 2020 19:42 (four years ago) link
Yes I did see FG piling in on the SF candidate who was antisemitic And like yes definitely fuck her out imoBut alsohmmmFG like
― hyds (gyac), Thursday, 20 February 2020 19:43 (four years ago) link
The danger isn’t that SF will have dodgy candidates, the danger is that they’ll find a few more Mary-Lous and then everyone else is fucked
― hyds (gyac), Thursday, 20 February 2020 19:47 (four years ago) link
lol im running to irishtown for a kickabout, i demand u unpack that at length pls fore i return
― BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Thursday, 20 February 2020 19:48 (four years ago) link
LolA transparently dodgy candidate, any fool in the country can see that for themselves However, the Mary Lou example is someone who has none of the previous associations and who is largely liked by much of middle Ireland. The danger is that SF select more candidates like her and then all the attacks are much harder to land. I am very tired if this doesn’t make sense
― hyds (gyac), Thursday, 20 February 2020 19:50 (four years ago) link
ah i didnt see the critical 'else', my bad
i think sf
listen surely sv has a second captains subscription ffs, anything id say is kinda redundant until a few others could pick up the numerous threads arising from this podcast
― BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Thursday, 20 February 2020 22:22 (four years ago) link
football was a fuckin disaster so im somewhat repressible
― BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Thursday, 20 February 2020 22:23 (four years ago) link
He might but I barely have time or energy for my actual interests let alone podcasts like soI prefer my political analysis in text form, ideally as obtuse as possible
― hyds (gyac), Thursday, 20 February 2020 22:31 (four years ago) link
fp
― BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Thursday, 20 February 2020 22:54 (four years ago) link
no no no absolutely not nohttps://i.postimg.cc/DZ3S59rG/F717-DE55-DB05-4603-AD5-A-7914-A22859-AB.jpgwe do not need to take after the Brits with their shitty crisp flavours
― hyds (gyac), Thursday, 20 February 2020 22:57 (four years ago) link
Sv does not listen to second captains, make sure to direct one of those his way xp
― hyds (gyac), Thursday, 20 February 2020 22:58 (four years ago) link
xfp
i saw those tayto. will report back.
― BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Thursday, 20 February 2020 23:04 (four years ago) link
I've listened to a second captains or two, despite at best disinterest in sport, I think it might actually be a pleasant collection of accents (some of which I might not have considered pleasant previously).
but basically "I prefer my political analysis in text form, ideally as obtuse as possible"
― Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 20 February 2020 23:10 (four years ago) link
the fps are for the o word, lads, just fyi re yr fps
― BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Thursday, 20 February 2020 23:46 (four years ago) link
You know I have been using the wrong fucking word? I meant oblique. Death to obtuse, oblique is the way.
― hyds (gyac), Friday, 21 February 2020 00:07 (four years ago) link
My mum almost got adopted by the Coyle family in the 50s is a recurring story she tells me. Never sure if it is more tall stories, but there is the always the pleasant subtext that I wouldn't exist if she had!
― calzino, Friday, 21 February 2020 00:13 (four years ago) link
which coyles now are they?
xp i am relieved. vm in favour of obliquity obv
― BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Friday, 21 February 2020 00:17 (four years ago) link
af, they do the odd non-sport one, and make the odd one of those free access. p much always worth a listen id say
― BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Friday, 21 February 2020 00:18 (four years ago) link
xpthe famous poTayto magnate family!
― calzino, Friday, 21 February 2020 00:19 (four years ago) link
jaysus, huge if true
― BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Friday, 21 February 2020 00:34 (four years ago) link
Don’t read the comments unless you want to spend the whole day laughing
“’Why do Irish people hate British people so much?’ We don’t hate British people. It’s only your government that we hate.” @KNEECAPCEOL answer all the stupid questions that Irish people get asked on the reg. pic.twitter.com/3AIGMeuUm7— JOE (@JOE_co_uk) February 21, 2020
― hyds (gyac), Saturday, 22 February 2020 14:04 (four years ago) link
The curry chip flavoured tayto were a big disappointment
― Saxophone Of Futility (Michael B), Saturday, 22 February 2020 14:12 (four years ago) link
i mean whats the question?
do i hate the british, any british, or do i hate the british en masse, or do i hate the british empire or the british govt?
i mean, for a given definition doesnt everyone hate the british, really?
― BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Saturday, 22 February 2020 14:15 (four years ago) link
Just listening to Get Your Brits Out now and omg
I posted that on Brexit Night!
― Load up your rubber wallets (Tom D.), Saturday, 22 February 2020 14:38 (four years ago) link
(fading in...) Look, I'm not saying that Julian Smith isn't the best Tory NI minister, I'm just saying that it's a low bar... (fading out)
Karren Bradley once corrected me when I said I was from Kerry. She said its sometimes called Londonkerry. Her aide/SPAD corrected her— Sean-Diarmuid Kelliher (@SDKelliher) February 13, 2020
― Andrew Farrell, Monday, 24 February 2020 15:07 (four years ago) link
― calzino, Monday, 24 February 2020 15:16 (four years ago) link
LOL
― Load up your rubber wallets (Tom D.), Monday, 24 February 2020 15:17 (four years ago) link
The influence! (In NY state politics)
IMPORTANT BREAKING NEWS: You can get ashes (without sitting through Mass) at 1pm on the third-floor terrace of the Legislative Office Building. As I’ve said previously, this is the best racket that Albany lawmakers run. If you see an Irish legislator, thank them.— Jimmy Vielkind (@JimmyVielkind) February 26, 2020
― median punt (gyac), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 17:39 (four years ago) link
I know I’ve posted links to him before, but seriously lads, follow Liam Hogan.Saw this old thread pop up and I’d never seen it before.
The Economist, a free market publication founded in 1843 to repeal the Corn Laws, argued against intervention by the British government during the Great Famine by blaming the approx one million victims for their own deaths (1847) https://t.co/QiQYX7Qmn6— Liam Hogan (@Limerick1914) August 11, 2019
As emaciated people starved to death with grass in their mouths @TheEconomist shrugged its shoulders: “the people, rapidly increasing, have been reduced, by acts for which they are chiefly to blame, to a sole reliance on the precarious crop of potatoes.”— Liam Hogan (@Limerick1914) August 11, 2019
― median punt (gyac), Thursday, 27 February 2020 22:09 (four years ago) link
who would have guessed The Economist publication would be so fucking blind and deaf to an economics driven famine.
― calzino, Thursday, 27 February 2020 23:08 (four years ago) link
so I went to try to find out what the news was on yon government and
https://www.rte.ie/news/ulster/2020/0227/1118010-strabane-weapons-funeral/
https://img.rasset.ie/0013bd21-800.jpg
― Swilling Ambergris, Esq. (silby), Thursday, 27 February 2020 23:14 (four years ago) link
this story's very elliptical about how an axe fight broke out at this funeral
― Swilling Ambergris, Esq. (silby), Thursday, 27 February 2020 23:15 (four years ago) link
Oh silbs
― median punt (gyac), Thursday, 27 February 2020 23:15 (four years ago) link
I mean, I guess I know, but, I don't, at all
― Swilling Ambergris, Esq. (silby), Thursday, 27 February 2020 23:16 (four years ago) link
lol it looks like there is at least 2 plasterboard knifes/padsaws (whatever you call them) amongst that lot, very handy for cutting into dry-walls - not so sure they work so well as lethal weapons.
― calzino, Thursday, 27 February 2020 23:21 (four years ago) link
I meant how elliptical the story is, not the axe fight bit. It’s all very read-between-the-lines stuff! Deems maybe can back me up here (lol emigrant), but a lot of these stories are written as such cos all the locals know what/who it’s about? Same way the parents don’t bother using eircodes.
― median punt (gyac), Thursday, 27 February 2020 23:28 (four years ago) link
― median punt (gyac), Thursday, 27 February 2020 23:33 (four years ago) link
ye dont bring the hatchets to a wake in the midlands?
― BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Thursday, 27 February 2020 23:36 (four years ago) link
Irish Travellers
― BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Thursday, 27 February 2020 23:38 (four years ago) link
The ones in the top right and left corners look like padsaws to me. Probably could be deadly weapons in the right hands, but still they often snap when you try fucking up a drywall with them!
― calzino, Thursday, 27 February 2020 23:42 (four years ago) link
xxp only if it’s family
― median punt (gyac), Thursday, 27 February 2020 23:43 (four years ago) link
its been hinted that my maternal grandmothers ppl had a traveller name for their locality
ill remember it in a minute
but tbh wouldnt at all surprise me, wild isnt fuckin in it
that said, fuck all difference twixt yr stereotypical traveller and the avg fella from their stretch of the island too, which in all seriousness does give one thought to how a smart kid can get out of one situation but hardly ever the other.
― BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Thursday, 27 February 2020 23:49 (four years ago) link
Co.Leitrim (2 entries)
Informants in this smallest of counties treat it as part of a larger (northwestern) region.
1. [location in Co. Leitrim unclear]
McDonagh Leitrim, Longford, Roscommon
McCawley [sic] Leitrim, Longford, Roscommon
McGinley recent arrivals
“The first two families move about through Leitrim, Longford and Roscommon. I have not heard of McGnleys until recently.”
2. Coillte Clochair
Ward intermarried, & travel, with McDonaghs
McDonagh intermarried, & travel, with Wards
Crumlish confined to Donegal. “often live in houses for considerable periods – especially around Ballyshannon.”
Cawley
Coyle
Stokes Roscommon
“The Ward and McDonagh clan [sic singular] have intermarried and to a great extent travel together. They travel large areas of Donegal, Tyrone, Fermanagh, Leitrim, Cavan, Sligo and Mayo.” [= the whole northwest quarter of the island]
: “Strange to say I do not know of any tinker who can speak Irish fluently.”
notes that Traveller presence in the locality predates the first road (1846) because an old thorn tree at their camping spot on the pre-road route is known as “beggars’ bush”.
Counties Leitrim and Sligo
This single entry covers two counties
McDonagh Galway; horse trading
Maughan (Mohan) West. intermarried with McDonaghs. tinsmiths.
Ward Donegal. wire workers. intermarried with Mulrooneys.
MacMurrough ragmen. also known as the Casógs, Old Coats
Sommers
Caulderbanks
Crumlish
Delaney Wexford. musicians (pipers)
Mulrooney intermarried with Wards
Riley
Doherty [not listed but mentioned in passing]
All come and go through the northwest.
All are more differentiated by TRADES than by geography.
“Most of the older McDonaghs Wards and Dohertys can and do speak Irish among themselves or when so addressed.” It would be interesting to know more about the informant, especially his own familiarity with Irish, as only one other entry makes such a claim and so many others (including the very next entry) specifically note Travellers’ inability to speak this language.
Co.Roscommon (1 entry)
Ballihadreen
Ward principal local group
McDonagh less frequent but fairly common
Sweeney less frequent but fairly common
“No local tinker knows Irish.”
interesting
― BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Thursday, 27 February 2020 23:55 (four years ago) link
That thread is how I found out Dublin bus scrapped the 10. I hope you’re very happy with yourself, deems.
― median punt (gyac), Tuesday, 3 March 2020 23:37 (four years ago) link
a vicarious route eh
― BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Wednesday, 4 March 2020 00:12 (four years ago) link
The only video from the latest royal visit worth acknowledging
Came to see the royals. Stayed to pat the dog #RoyalVisitIreland pic.twitter.com/iVof4pOoiS— 𝗛𝗮𝗻𝗻𝗮𝗵 𝗠𝘂𝗿𝗽𝗵𝘆🎙 (@Hanelizaa) March 3, 2020
― median punt (gyac), Thursday, 5 March 2020 21:38 (four years ago) link
i live back the garden from the lads and see them at least once a month, this is what privilege looks like imo
― BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Thursday, 5 March 2020 22:38 (four years ago) link
go to hell samantha and take your bloody sister with you pic.twitter.com/jolLOdNZgt— Son of the Hound (@sonofhound) March 5, 2020
― Andrew Farrell, Friday, 6 March 2020 11:12 (four years ago) link
The thread of this lad’s comments is class.Am I wrong to consider this modern storytelling/yarn spinning? It’s a bit cruder than my nana would have done but it’s the same concept.
― median punt (gyac), Friday, 6 March 2020 11:23 (four years ago) link
Now I'm reading it in a rising and falling pitch :/
― Andrew Farrell, Friday, 6 March 2020 12:28 (four years ago) link
isnt this a version of the reddit guy whose stories ended with his dad beating him with a hose
― BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Friday, 6 March 2020 12:32 (four years ago) link
It is and it isn’t
― median punt (gyac), Friday, 6 March 2020 12:49 (four years ago) link
i have you
― BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Friday, 6 March 2020 12:49 (four years ago) link
― median punt (gyac), Friday, 6 March 2020 14:13 (four years ago) link
hey im pretty sure that irish lurkers have shoen their disapproval of me in like fuckin sandwich queues let alone knowing what dept i work in
― BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Friday, 6 March 2020 14:20 (four years ago) link
Ah no, I barely know anyone from Meath - home schooled from 8 and then off to Trinity at 13. I mean, I did end up knowing a few folks from Kells there, but they're all about four years older than me, where if I remember right, you're in the other direction (though there's always family).
― Andrew Farrell, Friday, 6 March 2020 14:35 (four years ago) link
That’s what I’m afraid of!I feel, weirdly, deems and I might have the closest irl connection, and I’ve spent time on his island (I doubt he’s ever been to my bit of the country and, Clonmacnoise aside, I don’t blame him lol).
― median punt (gyac), Friday, 6 March 2020 14:42 (four years ago) link
i bin everywhere
― BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Friday, 6 March 2020 14:43 (four years ago) link
but i admit curiosity to this mysterious possible connection
also, nakh has been to ach1ll which is one of those v curious things
― BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Friday, 6 March 2020 14:44 (four years ago) link
Is it? I spent a week there during TY and it remains one of my best school experiences.Did I not webmail you about this before? Ah, the moment’s passed.
― median punt (gyac), Friday, 6 March 2020 14:49 (four years ago) link
let it die, for the best
― BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Friday, 6 March 2020 14:57 (four years ago) link
I could post this in any number of threads but this is a good breakdown of the issues with citizens’ assemblies by good Irish twitter user/writer Mr_considerate. (His real name is there but idk if he wants them linked!)Since I am here by myself and have some lunch time left, the other pressing issue of the day (LBI!)
― gramsci in your surplice (gyac), Monday, 9 March 2020 14:11 (four years ago) link
Accentmonkey of ILX used to live in Meath.
― the pinefox, Monday, 9 March 2020 14:23 (four years ago) link
― gramsci in your surplice (gyac), Monday, 9 March 2020 14:26 (four years ago) link
I was in Meath at the end of last year, had a v nice time pottering about historical sites and drinking the good guinness in a tiny cottage pub that looked like it'd barely changed in 50 years
― ogmor, Monday, 9 March 2020 14:30 (four years ago) link
Did you go to Newgrange? I went there as a child but my only abiding memory is my dad getting sick outside. Would love to do winter solstice but imagine it’s incredibly difficult.
― gramsci in your surplice (gyac), Monday, 9 March 2020 14:32 (four years ago) link
Not this time but I also went as a child and was v struck by it
― ogmor, Monday, 9 March 2020 14:32 (four years ago) link
thanks Gyac! So it's Garro-idg vs Ga-rode then :D
(Accentmonkey is an ilx-user of yore)
― Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 9 March 2020 14:35 (four years ago) link
Do love there can be so many different variations, even within the same language, because of dialect and regional variaties.
― Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 9 March 2020 14:36 (four years ago) link
You should go to Clonmacnoise next time you’re in the Midlands, it’s a beautiful site, and it makes an appearance in Heaney:
The annals say: when the monks of ClonmacnoiseWere all at prayers inside the oratoryA ship appeared above them in the air.The anchor dragged along behind so deepIt hooked itself into the altar railsAnd then, as the big hull rocked to a standstill,A crewman shinned and grappled down the ropeAnd struggled to release it. But in vain.‘This man can’t bear our life here and will drown,’The abbot said, ‘unless we help him.’ SoThey did, the freed ship sailed, and the man climbed backOut of the marvellous as he had known it.
― gramsci in your surplice (gyac), Monday, 9 March 2020 14:48 (four years ago) link
― Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 9 March 2020 14:36 (thirteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
dont defer at all g, we have a great thread somewhere that does indeed go into the sheer variance and regionality of our many accents
― BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Monday, 9 March 2020 14:55 (four years ago) link
said it manys the time, theres seven accents on the island and traceable if i may be allowed to imagine without any evidence other than my own fancy back to the seven different maisteairi of the different parishes back when everyones grandparents were learning proper enguleesh
― BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Monday, 9 March 2020 14:57 (four years ago) link
Well my Irish teachers were always telling us how Leinster is a desert for Irish (true) although we did spend time in a Gaeltacht in Meath(!) and I will never forget my oral examiner telling me our school was “much better than the Dublin girls, with their ‘O mo Dhia’”. Yeah, it was my worst subject but I love the language itself, but we didn’t have the best teachers at LC.
― gramsci in your surplice (gyac), Monday, 9 March 2020 15:01 (four years ago) link
deems do you say Fine Gale or Fine Gwale?
― gramsci in your surplice (gyac), Monday, 9 March 2020 15:02 (four years ago) link
not answering until you tell me how u pronounce fine
― BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Monday, 9 March 2020 15:06 (four years ago) link
non-irish: observe. this is how we behave among our own.
Yeah, it was my worst subject but I love the language itself, but we didn’t have the best teachers at LC.
― gramsci in your surplice (gyac), Monday, 9 March 2020 15:01 (four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
can't speak it, but i know it to me bones as a true son of the boggy gaeltacht, so i can read it without hesitation as to accent.
basically i can read in sean-nós.
but as i think ive said manys the time here, despite being a bit of a grouch re the movements to boost the language (primarily on the twin fronts of the lecturing tone as to why one "should" know it as well as the wrongheaded approach to how to go about it) i regret not learning it to conversational level and promise myself most years to get working on it. its a beautiful language.
― BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Monday, 9 March 2020 15:10 (four years ago) link
finn-ehI say FYE-nance not Finn-ance RTÉ style if that’s where this was going
― gramsci in your surplice (gyac), Monday, 9 March 2020 15:10 (four years ago) link
Accentmonkey is neither former Meath nor former ILX!
― Andrew Farrell, Monday, 9 March 2020 15:11 (four years ago) link
I would have thought someone in your employment needed to have it, or did the blueshirts send that the way of compulsory history to junior cert?
― gramsci in your surplice (gyac), Monday, 9 March 2020 15:11 (four years ago) link
yeah you do hear it both ways, i find that people either say
finneh guwayel
or
fine gale (nice wind you got there)
hmm...if i ran at it without thinking id probably sound it as finna gyael meself.
no right way obv
― BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Monday, 9 March 2020 15:13 (four years ago) link
― gramsci in your surplice (gyac), Monday, 9 March 2020 15:11 (one minute ago) bookmarkflaglink
one of the many myths!
I should learn The Irish past my puny amount at some point, but Jen is learning Scottish Gaelic (pron. Gallic apparently?) and I'm not sure if it would be good or bad to have both ringing about the house at the same time.
― Andrew Farrell, Monday, 9 March 2020 15:16 (four years ago) link
I can hear gale or guwayel, but I don't think I've ever heard fine-as-in-soft-day!
(I might have asked this before but) do you still need to pass Irish to pass the LC?
one of the o/h's student flatmates in NI had got good marks at school in every other subject but had been forced to go up north for uni as because he couldn't scrape a pass in Irish even after many resits and so didn't get his piece of paper (so I was told)
he was a mature student by that time as he'd already gone to Silicon Valley, made a million in the dot com boom, then lost it again. he went back afterwards, quite possibly made another million, who knows about the hanging onto it this time round - good luck to him anyway
(also keen to hear the various positions on the Gale vs Gwale issue. is Gwoil an option or is that part just assumed to go without saying and/or interpolated by my tin tan ear?)
― a passing spacecadet, Monday, 9 March 2020 15:17 (four years ago) link
xp its a west coast thing
again testimony to the personalised aspect of the whole thing over here imo
on that note, id say no better tribute to the language than to have two different versions of it ringing around the one house
i speak six different dialects of english meself, depending, so i mean
― BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Monday, 9 March 2020 15:18 (four years ago) link
aps, unless you're exempt then as far as my knowledge goes then you do
exempt, as far as i remember, only really covers your having been a citizen abroad until x age or whatever
― BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Monday, 9 March 2020 15:19 (four years ago) link
and, not being funny but it is rather on point, id need to know how you pronounced gwoil, really.
― BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Monday, 9 March 2020 15:20 (four years ago) link
finn-ants is one of many oar-tee-ee sins against language obv
― BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Monday, 9 March 2020 15:21 (four years ago) link
I’ve never heard Fine as in fine, what are they feeding ye out there
― gramsci in your surplice (gyac), Monday, 9 March 2020 15:23 (four years ago) link
― Andrew Farrell, Monday, March 9, 2020 4:11 PM (nine minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
Ehm, am I missing something here? Accentmonkey was a former ilxor. Or rather: there was a user named accentmonkey around for quite some time.
― Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 9 March 2020 15:23 (four years ago) link
Finn-ants is hideous. So is Fianna FOY-IL.
― gramsci in your surplice (gyac), Monday, 9 March 2020 15:24 (four years ago) link
Dyslexia will also do it, as per my sister's two eldest.
For the exception, not the fine.
I mean, same, but usually within the same sentence, which can roll on out for days, alerting passing shipping.
― Andrew Farrell, Monday, 9 March 2020 15:24 (four years ago) link
xp need to know how you pronounce F tbh
― BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Monday, 9 March 2020 15:24 (four years ago) link
She's still here, though I don't want to blow up her spot.
Deems upload your own clip of Fine Gael, I refuse to believe the evidence of my eyes
(ok that last may be a slight exaggeration)
xp oic
― Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 9 March 2020 15:25 (four years ago) link
xxxxp is this a feck vs fuck thing?
― Andrew Farrell, Monday, 9 March 2020 15:25 (four years ago) link
one of the days ilx will hear my lilting tones
but twont be today
― BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Monday, 9 March 2020 15:25 (four years ago) link
One of my proudest achievements living in the UK is the amount of Hiberno-Irish and just Irish picked up by the husband.
― gramsci in your surplice (gyac), Monday, 9 March 2020 15:26 (four years ago) link
xp seachtó a seacht you coward
actually should we ever find that other thread iirc theres a recording of me reading a story to my niece in fact
― BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Monday, 9 March 2020 15:26 (four years ago) link
meh i just dont like me voice tbrr
― BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Monday, 9 March 2020 15:27 (four years ago) link
btw i blame ilx for my new habit of offhandedly calling mrs mac a coward for the smallest reason
xp to gyac it is weirdly hard to find a picture of Mr Tatyo giving a thumbs-up, particularly since that's one of the few hand gestures within his grasp - but imagine that here.
― Andrew Farrell, Monday, 9 March 2020 15:29 (four years ago) link
xp if ilx can hear my perpetually tired & cracked voice we can hear yours
― gramsci in your surplice (gyac), Monday, 9 March 2020 15:30 (four years ago) link
― gramsci in your surplice (gyac), Monday, 9 March 2020 15:31 (four years ago) link
xxp the only Tayto I bend my knee tohttps://img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net/tenant/amp/entityid/AAJSP6R.img?h=400&w=286&m=6&q=60&o=f&l=f&x=243&y=386
― gramsci in your surplice (gyac), Monday, 9 March 2020 15:32 (four years ago) link
― BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Monday, 9 March 2020 16:21 (four years ago) link
i believe the discussion about accent variation starts from here in this very thread
― BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Monday, 9 March 2020 16:22 (four years ago) link
The midlands is a lottery
― gramsci in your surplice (gyac), Monday, 9 March 2020 16:36 (four years ago) link
When I say re my accent not being strong, I don’t mean the Irishness - I spend my life spelling out my name to people whenever I have to phone someone and full of “can you repeat that? the lines bad” - but the regional tags. Though I can thank my parents and my speech impediment (rip) for that.
― gramsci in your surplice (gyac), Monday, 9 March 2020 16:38 (four years ago) link
xp you wont, the link is broke
pollagh is pronounced
PULL-a
― BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Monday, 9 March 2020 16:51 (four years ago) link
ffsat least you have that right
― gramsci in your surplice (gyac), Monday, 9 March 2020 16:52 (four years ago) link
i bytimes ref the former future mrs mac, she was a pollagh girl so i got to know the place but twas never my neck of the island and ive less reason than ever to like it now
― BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Monday, 9 March 2020 16:52 (four years ago) link
reupload the clip you coward
― gramsci in your surplice (gyac), Monday, 9 March 2020 16:53 (four years ago) link
i will think about it
― BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Monday, 9 March 2020 16:54 (four years ago) link
https://www.dropbox.com/s/wszzowjjfle63w9/Sound%20clip%2028.mp4?dl=0
thats the best i can do im afraid, had to open it outside of whatever dropbox wanted to use fwiw
― BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Monday, 9 March 2020 17:03 (four years ago) link
drop the ? and everything subsequent, maybe
wheres sic when you need him
― BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Monday, 9 March 2020 17:07 (four years ago) link
Haha this is cute! I was sad you didn’t attempt the cat noise yourself. You sound very much of the west but not in that slushy over-sibilant way some of the accents can tend to. Overall impression was young Bosco presenter, but a normal one, not one of the lads in adult dungarees. Also, you are clearly a v doting uncle.
― gramsci in your surplice (gyac), Monday, 9 March 2020 17:24 (four years ago) link
^cosine
― Andrew Farrell, Monday, 9 March 2020 17:27 (four years ago) link
we moved around a bit, sher
and she was a cute kid, once
― BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Monday, 9 March 2020 17:37 (four years ago) link
also if anything my cat noise is better than the automated one
no you're grand
― Fantastic. Great move. Well done (sic), Monday, 9 March 2020 19:28 (four years ago) link
the lucky few are chosen by lottery, but it's always overcast anyway
https://www.newgrange.com/solstice-lottery.htm
You should definitely go though. It's a magical place (and they do a simulation of the solstice effect for every tour)
― Number None, Monday, 9 March 2020 20:09 (four years ago) link
Nothing could explain the Irish and Russian mentalities better, and why we get on so well together, than the fact that Moscow “Irish Week” lasts for eleven days. pic.twitter.com/7ModMpUkv5— Bryan MacDonald (@27khv) March 9, 2020
― gramsci in your surplice (gyac), Monday, 9 March 2020 23:38 (four years ago) link
Guinness is a drink widely perceived as being “Irish”, in reality this couldn’t be further from the truth. Arthur Guinness was a unionist and a British informer working against the United Irishmen in 1798. In 1913, the Guinness family donated £100,000 to the UVF. pic.twitter.com/v2H5wNrwlG— Imperialist Watch Ireland (@ImperialistWl) March 10, 2020
― gramsci in your surplice (gyac), Tuesday, 10 March 2020 22:15 (four years ago) link
and still the use of the "" around irish there makes me want ta hint them down and beat them bloody
― BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Tuesday, 10 March 2020 22:23 (four years ago) link
down with Guinnessbring back Breó!
― gramsci in your surplice (gyac), Tuesday, 10 March 2020 22:27 (four years ago) link
I unironically liked Breo. Pretty sure I’m alone.
― 29 facepalms, Tuesday, 10 March 2020 22:35 (four years ago) link
James Jeremiah Murphy was a nationalist
― COVID and the Gang (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 10 March 2020 22:48 (four years ago) link
It’s a peak Celtic Tiger product, I only remember the ads. The Irish Times article about it has this description of the thinking behind the name.
Breo is a Celtic word meaning glow. "After some consultation with Bord na Gaeilge and a number of fluent Irish speakers, Breo was chosen as the name for this new beer as it reflects the original attributes, colour and look of the product."
― gramsci in your surplice (gyac), Tuesday, 10 March 2020 22:50 (four years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zigVHK5O38
― Number None, Tuesday, 10 March 2020 23:01 (four years ago) link
béarnaíbréoige
― BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Tuesday, 10 March 2020 23:26 (four years ago) link
I thought of this pun and was distracted by events. Surely Beirní Breó?
― gramsci in your surplice (gyac), Tuesday, 10 March 2020 23:27 (four years ago) link
I find it bizarre that James Nesbitt’s Wikipedia page makes no mention of that ad
― El Tomboto, Tuesday, 10 March 2020 23:40 (four years ago) link
its an interpretative language gyac imo
try searching under shamie nesbitt tb
― BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Wednesday, 11 March 2020 00:20 (four years ago) link
Never drank a Breó
I wish you could still get Kilkenny here, you can still get it abroad
― Saxophone Of Futility (Michael B), Wednesday, 11 March 2020 00:38 (four years ago) link
Breo had, I think, quinine in it. Like a pint of Harp cut with tonic water.
― 29 facepalms, Wednesday, 11 March 2020 08:01 (four years ago) link
we're kinda closing down for a bit
not a fan of attacking a taoiseach in these circs but that is a fairly ridiculous announcement
if you close schools you have to lead and announce all non-essential public staff are being told stay home.
cant ask businesses to react and not do so ourselves
strikes me that leaving airport to run according to its own judgement is also a copout
― BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Thursday, 12 March 2020 12:11 (four years ago) link
I don’t follow. What did he do?!
― gramsci in your surplice (gyac), Thursday, 12 March 2020 12:15 (four years ago) link
Ireland’s taoiseach Leo Varadkar has announced the closure of all schools, colleges and childcare facilities from tomorrow as part of a partial lockdown that will apply from 6pm tonight until 29 March.
― bagáistetd (seandalai), Thursday, 12 March 2020 12:28 (four years ago) link
sounds like chaos if parents still have to go to work
With you now deems. Yeah, that’s a total load of shit.
― gramsci in your surplice (gyac), Thursday, 12 March 2020 12:36 (four years ago) link
It'll be fine, they'll just fine one person on every street that is already home and the kids can all stay with them.
― Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 12 March 2020 12:38 (four years ago) link
sorry, busy here atm for obvious reasons
the half measure seems exactly wrong, is it, basically
― BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Thursday, 12 March 2020 12:55 (four years ago) link
and its not me being self serving to note that if you leave it to businesses and eg airport authorities to handle shit without direction, then yr lead becomes more important- leaving our non essential offices (400k odd ppl) open is no leadership at all
― BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Thursday, 12 March 2020 12:58 (four years ago) link
can i get assistance here pls
― BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Thursday, 12 March 2020 18:37 (four years ago) link
how to grade severity of a pandemic where
you close schools
yet
keep 300k ppl in your purview going in to work
even where the work is non essential
unless you can work from home
which you havent allowed nor set up until now so very few can
oh and also unless we just closed your kids school
in which case we will pay you to stay home and babysit
fuckin messing
― BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Thursday, 12 March 2020 18:40 (four years ago) link
Sorry deems. Seems like a mess waiting to happen. You’d imagine the Easter weeks are covered at least but people are probably going to have to sort themselves out cos the government clearly didn’t give a fuck.
― gramsci in your surplice (gyac), Thursday, 12 March 2020 18:53 (four years ago) link
i think closing schools was the right step, but you wanna see the head honchos flying around all over town today reacting
like.....lads ..... was this not discussed?
i havent been given access for remote working, so clearly im non essential. but somebody somewhere has decided that optics dictate that ill be commuting in during the pandemic regardless.
jesus waitll i get our useless union in front of me. palestine me hole lads.
― BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Thursday, 12 March 2020 19:11 (four years ago) link
You're a designated survivor for me Deems, that must count for something.
O'er here they decided the opposite: everyone should work from home but schools will not be closed. Lol.
― Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 12 March 2020 19:13 (four years ago) link
and not to begrudge parents the time because theyve been dropped in it too,but....like....who is going to pay private sector parents to stay home?
optics are shite tbh, at least if they had told every possible non-essential officer to stay home they could have looked businesses in the eye and said- as an employer, we're leading here.
― BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Thursday, 12 March 2020 19:13 (four years ago) link
"palestine me hole"?
― silby, Thursday, 12 March 2020 19:13 (four years ago) link
social movement union that isn't giving him enough bang for his buck I suppose?
(extremely union activist voice: you are a member of your union and the majority of the work done is voluntary ie it's ineffectual that's partly your responsibility, you're a member not a service-user, your union is probably hamstrung by the legislation etc.)
― COVID and the Gang (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 12 March 2020 19:15 (four years ago) link
sher look, ffs i dont mind coming in. ive been fatalistic about getting it til now, im fairly healthy, i dont have relatives or people that i will be in contact directly that i cannot avoid
but when yr employer points at you and says ey non-breeder, yr more compromisable, yr time's worth less or you have to cover for those with actual responsibilities (an ongoing struggle tbh), yr health is expendable here, it comes to a fairly self-pitying tantrum like this one every now and again im afraid.
ah well.
ill come in and read. pricks.
― BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Thursday, 12 March 2020 19:16 (four years ago) link
our office has been shut for the foreseeable - "reviewed on a weekly basis"
― Number None, Thursday, 12 March 2020 19:18 (four years ago) link
jim- our union reps are paid to be so, and they block pretty much anything that would help productivity on idealistic grounds- like work from home!- and spend most of their time generating basically a big issue but without the good bits either ito content or actually helping the needy
but that's another thread. im a big believer in being a member of a powerful union if only because it keeps a powerful employer in line
― BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Thursday, 12 March 2020 19:19 (four years ago) link
right im over it
im off to play football lol
― BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Thursday, 12 March 2020 19:23 (four years ago) link
Jim otm re unions! I know how you feel deems, you might as well work on your novel at work cos there’ll be fuck all else happening. Think of Flann!
― gramsci in your surplice (gyac), Thursday, 12 March 2020 19:56 (four years ago) link
had a stormer in a miserable night at footy, got stuck with the fuckin bibs too so ive definitely got it now
but im calmed down and will engage constructively with my worthy union tomorrow to see what influence i can exert to get wfh as standard in our backward dept
― BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Thursday, 12 March 2020 22:32 (four years ago) link
Seeing as we're all going to be spending a lot more time indoors, I have created a folder with every single episode of Reeling in the Years, 1962 - 2009. Enjoy. https://t.co/s1o8wQipGE— Evin Ryan (@youknowitsevin) March 15, 2020
ok everyone
covid is now Good
― BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Sunday, 15 March 2020 22:58 (four years ago) link
Tesco nearby went into over drive at about 8. Piece going about online that everything is going into lock down at 11 tomorrow and that there will be limited access to shops so heaps of people there again. Shur I'll believe it when I see it.
― Saxophone Of Futility (Michael B), Sunday, 15 March 2020 23:35 (four years ago) link
yeah ive seen that piece
its not that id be one bit surprised if it happened
its that anyone claiming to have heard it from anyone etc or whatever is an idiot
― BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Sunday, 15 March 2020 23:37 (four years ago) link
xpost well a couple of workmates have heard it from friends of theirs but I don't know how credible they are either
I spent most of the day listening to weird ass paranoid sounding Miles Davis albums and finishing up reading Solar Bones (which coincidentally has a virus outbreak in it too). Probably finish this bottle of wine and be up at 7 bright eyed and bushy tailed for work tomorrow. I work in a call centre so I'm not looking forward to that at the best of times. There's almost 100 people in a big office with bad ventilation. There's an opportunity to work at home alright but I've yet to see how that will pan out
― Saxophone Of Futility (Michael B), Sunday, 15 March 2020 23:42 (four years ago) link
jesus theres no fuckin excuse to have ppl still goin in is there
imo statement from govt should be clear
- if opportunity to wfh exists it should be taken to fullest extent- if work is non essential staff should stay home- if neither above is true then social distancing, flexible hours, reduced services, etc
this encouraging businesses and depts to look within their own hearts and make a call is fuckin nonsense
id wonder if the insurance industry isnt in their ear, whether a govt instruction has different legal connotations for claims vs a govt asking nicely etc
― BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Sunday, 15 March 2020 23:47 (four years ago) link
We were told that there will only be contactless payments in the canteen though! Nothing to worry about here move along
― Saxophone Of Futility (Michael B), Sunday, 15 March 2020 23:58 (four years ago) link
jaysus thats only the finesht so
― BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Monday, 16 March 2020 00:01 (four years ago) link
You might be onto something about the insurance industry in their ear. Also the huge amount of social welfare payments that would need to be made for people off work
― Saxophone Of Futility (Michael B), Monday, 16 March 2020 00:08 (four years ago) link
Thank you so much for that reeling in the years link, deems, that’s made a big difference to my family. 2020 is going to be insane. Pub closures and shots of people wearing masks in public to Dua Lipa’s Physical.
Not in a great way tbh, but stay safe out there people.
― gramsci in your surplice (gyac), Monday, 16 March 2020 08:28 (four years ago) link
will report as i see it from ghost town northside
listen
dye know the fella sells the dodgy fags on moore st
surely ye know him
six three, eight stone, colour of a gravestone, directs operations from the junction
anyway, he was wearing a mask the last day and swear ta fuck that was when i knew it was end times
― BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Monday, 16 March 2020 08:42 (four years ago) link
No, it’s end times when the auld fella that shouts HERALD near O’ Connell Bridge does it.
― gramsci in your surplice (gyac), Monday, 16 March 2020 08:50 (four years ago) link
he'll still shout HMMFFLLFFDD tbf
― BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Monday, 16 March 2020 09:10 (four years ago) link
actual garda has told my actual brother to go stock up early today
― BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Monday, 16 March 2020 09:34 (four years ago) link
https://youtu.be/gk52cjSyUS0
― Saxophone Of Futility (Michael B), Monday, 16 March 2020 09:42 (four years ago) link
lol i h8 reeling in the years so much
― plax (ico), Monday, 16 March 2020 19:36 (four years ago) link
you’ll come to love it in time
SuperValu in Greystones doing a good job on social distancing 👍😊 pic.twitter.com/JX32zrUH3T— Aengus Cox (@AengusCox) March 16, 2020
― gramsci in your surplice (gyac), Monday, 16 March 2020 19:44 (four years ago) link
theres just no way ppl dont cut in
― BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Monday, 16 March 2020 19:56 (four years ago) link
sure they'd run over you to get into The Happy Pear on a good day
― Number None, Monday, 16 March 2020 20:04 (four years ago) link
*spits*
― BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Monday, 16 March 2020 20:05 (four years ago) link
leo is really bad at these fireside chats
― BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Tuesday, 17 March 2020 21:04 (four years ago) link
15k cases by end of month projected
cocooning
my god
― BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Tuesday, 17 March 2020 21:05 (four years ago) link
im fine with it
stop with the "hand of history on my shoulder" clunkers
paraphrasing Churchill :/
― Number None, Tuesday, 17 March 2020 21:08 (four years ago) link
I KNOW RIGHT
― BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Tuesday, 17 March 2020 21:10 (four years ago) link
trolling the shinners, he knows fg get 80 seats after this
― BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Tuesday, 17 March 2020 21:11 (four years ago) link
no big lockdown, but current measures will be in place months and those at risk will at a later stage be asked to fully isolate
supports for those without income, testing to be ramped up
is basically it
― BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Tuesday, 17 March 2020 21:17 (four years ago) link
judging by the general response on my WhatsApp groups...tonight, Leo truly became president
― Number None, Tuesday, 17 March 2020 21:20 (four years ago) link
three churchill nods, was it?
― BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Tuesday, 17 March 2020 21:30 (four years ago) link
theres the pay talks fucked
― gramsci in your surplice (gyac), Tuesday, 17 March 2020 21:33 (four years ago) link
WaitWas it ever established what they’re doing to protect Michael D?
hes too short to get it
― BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Tuesday, 17 March 2020 21:38 (four years ago) link
They may have closed the pubs, they may have closed the schools, but nothing is stopping Big Bird doing wheelies up Rush main street on Paddy's Day pic.twitter.com/2jGFfzTT4d— Robbie (@Robbie__Farrell) March 17, 2020
“And lastly to Big Bird. You were doing wheelies on the Main Street in Rush but simultaneously lifting our spirits. You are the backbone of this country, this economy and a light in the darkness when so many had lost their way” pic.twitter.com/qLuCN8AQOz— Michael Fry (@BigDirtyFry) March 17, 2020
― gramsci in your surplice (gyac), Tuesday, 17 March 2020 22:00 (four years ago) link
don’t start with me about xyzzzzzing because this is OTM as fuck and my 15 year old self would have approved
‘We come together by staying apart’ has big Buffy/Angel vibes, which I’m sure Varadkar intended.— Elvis Buñuelo (@Mr_Considerate) March 17, 2020
― gramsci in your surplice (gyac), Tuesday, 17 March 2020 22:35 (four years ago) link
heh its more than tweets, is xyxzzzzzzing
― BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Tuesday, 17 March 2020 22:50 (four years ago) link
It’s posting calmly as you normally do
― gramsci in your surplice (gyac), Tuesday, 17 March 2020 22:51 (four years ago) link
no longer the time for that tbh
― BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Tuesday, 17 March 2020 22:56 (four years ago) link
excuse me deems did you not hear the man
I am still processing the fact that the Taoiseach used the phrase “Not all superheroes wear capes...” in an emergency address to the nation.— ⭐ amy o'connor ⭐ (@amyohconnor) March 17, 2020
― gramsci in your surplice (gyac), Tuesday, 17 March 2020 23:05 (four years ago) link
the message was good
the scriptwriter shoehorning in everything wants shooting
and his delivery is awful poor
but govt/public sector doing admirably and i think public in general are doing their part beyond the predictables (which were predictably overreported too)
― BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Tuesday, 17 March 2020 23:11 (four years ago) link
So I’ve heard. I think institutional national memory makes a big difference to attitudes.
― gramsci in your surplice (gyac), Tuesday, 17 March 2020 23:13 (four years ago) link
don't underestimate the motivational boost of doing a better job than the brits
― BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Tuesday, 17 March 2020 23:39 (four years ago) link
I mean if we can’t run on spiting-the-Brits energy you might as well piss on, idk, any of the many graves they were responsible for
― gramsci in your surplice (gyac), Tuesday, 17 March 2020 23:43 (four years ago) link
https://youtu.be/pifibs_q7ec
never not the right time to share
― BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Tuesday, 17 March 2020 23:49 (four years ago) link
This thread is lovely and this one is making me homesick and emotional. When this is all over, I will go home more often. I’ve never been to this little wonder.
Offaly – St. Manchán’s Shrine, Boher.Clonmacnoise is the obvious pick here, it is simply incredible – but I just love that one of the truly exceptional pieces of early medieval art can be found sitting in a local parish church in Boher, County Offaly. pic.twitter.com/MAMkO6ymRQ— Neil Jackman (@JackmanNeil) March 17, 2020
― gramsci in your surplice (gyac), Wednesday, 18 March 2020 12:50 (four years ago) link
Right, that's getting bookmarked, we have a long holiday just touring Ireland planned for (waves) the future.
It'll be for naught if we don't see someone resembling this fella in a pub though.
My son has a thousand gorgeous angles and the pic that gets traction makes him look like he was born playing darts. In 1957. Looking like he just got some bad news about a tractor trailer his nephew was minding for him. With a face like my dad's when I tell him about my podcast. pic.twitter.com/9snsYVjZFe— Séamas It Ever Was (@shockproofbeats) March 17, 2020
― Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 18 March 2020 13:59 (four years ago) link
Everything in @phlaimeaux's life has been cancelled so he decided to make a podcast. Join him in his car on Achill Island for your new favourite pod during the Dystopian Spring Break.☀️Ep 1 is open for EVERYONE to listen to now on all our pod channels & https://t.co/uxcODKouWE pic.twitter.com/cAG4gx8ogb— Second Captains (@SecondCaptains) March 18, 2020
― BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Wednesday, 18 March 2020 14:14 (four years ago) link
i need hardly even say it but
xxp pint baby reincarnated for the pandemic age
― gramsci in your surplice (gyac), Wednesday, 18 March 2020 14:15 (four years ago) link
My "day we'll do a proper trip to Ireland" ambition is to go to Donegal and see all the Liam McCormick churches
― plax (ico), Wednesday, 18 March 2020 16:29 (four years ago) link
I wanted to go to the Skelligs but obviously Star Wars has fucked that idea
― gramsci in your surplice (gyac), Wednesday, 18 March 2020 16:29 (four years ago) link
I also want to go to Derry and see the hands across the divide statue
― gramsci in your surplice (gyac), Wednesday, 18 March 2020 16:31 (four years ago) link
i want to do that boarded mountain lakeland walk in leitrim
― BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Wednesday, 18 March 2020 17:24 (four years ago) link
I want to go to Glendalough.
― gramsci in your surplice (gyac), Wednesday, 18 March 2020 18:11 (four years ago) link
Let us indulge in the scrapings of schadenfreude while we can.
AirBnb parasites offloading their properties onto Daft.Rents are about to plummet. pic.twitter.com/wy5McRuX4f— Revolution 57%🐊 (@Revolution_IRL) March 19, 2020
― some of you are enjoying this (gyac), Thursday, 19 March 2020 20:59 (four years ago) link
sea
― thou shalt not covid thy neighbour's wife (darraghmac), Thursday, 19 March 2020 21:50 (four years ago) link
My mam said to me yesterday that she was proud to be Irish and likehttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/ETq4fSpWoAIwr4d?format=jpg&name=largeI can’t say she isn’t right like?
― some of you are enjoying this (gyac), Sunday, 22 March 2020 20:22 (four years ago) link
our pretty decent figures and the likes of the above are a really welcome burst given everything, yeah
the shops are well stocked, the ventilator place in galway is set up for 24 hour shifts and hiring, the govt are ahead of our figures so far and testing, isolation and treatment facilities are coming online quickly to keep ICU clear
40k volunteers with expertise to help out with HSE efforts
big redeployment to social protection and hse from public service over next week for admin work
medical personnel are contracting it at a rate of 1 in 5 which is a worry
and notwithstanding the numbers going up and the worry, etc, we're doing about as well as we could imo
― thou shalt not covid thy neighbour's wife (darraghmac), Sunday, 22 March 2020 20:31 (four years ago) link
two people who sit within a few feet of me at work currently awaiting tests - and have been for at least a week
― Number None, Monday, 23 March 2020 17:55 (four years ago) link
“...we got colonised by these pricks?”
― some of you are enjoying this (gyac), Monday, 23 March 2020 20:59 (four years ago) link
haaaaa
― ole uncle tiktok (darraghmac), Monday, 23 March 2020 21:00 (four years ago) link
love a separate thread punchline
golly we were nearly not having this level of conversation but look
― some of you are enjoying this (gyac), Monday, 23 March 2020 21:13 (four years ago) link
whomst amongst ust hasnt lapsed into faux hugh grant inst order tost instroduceth an awkward concepth
― ole uncle tiktok (darraghmac), Monday, 23 March 2020 21:16 (four years ago) link
I don’t say it enough, but I love Michael D
The future that will come after this virus will be radically different from what we have experienced before. It is my sincere hope that we will be able to develop in parallel both an inclusive immediate response to the pandemic and an adequate, comprehensive approach to the underlying challenges associated with the growing inequalities and environmental devastation inherent in our current models of connection between economy, society and ecology.The coronavirus reminds us that poverty, disease and climate change are global phenomena, which do not respect man-made borders. To address these global challenges, we need international cooperation and solidarity. Now is the time for more, not less, multilateral coordination and assistance, and for a reinforcing of our bonds.As President of Ireland, may I thank all the members of the Irish community in Britain, whether by birth or by association, for their efforts.I am particularly thinking of our elderly Irish at this time. Between 1955 and 1960, a quarter of a million Irish people left Ireland for the U.K. and again in the 1980s when, with others, I was associated with the Action Group for Irish Youth, at a time of social welfare and housing cuts.May I also ask you all to continue to take the greatest care at this time, to follow advice, and retain a sense of patience and commitment to the core values of a shared citizenship. These are difficult times, but times that will pass.
― consultant haste (gyac), Tuesday, 24 March 2020 22:07 (four years ago) link
now he's talking some big sense pic.twitter.com/h5LUd3USyV— New Year, New Me (@JurassicArse) March 25, 2020
― consultant haste (gyac), Wednesday, 25 March 2020 15:15 (four years ago) link
Sorry but
The Angelus but the bongs have been replaced with Cardi B and Michael D Higgins saying Coronavirus pic.twitter.com/SCHNWuOGYC— Ciara Knight (@Ciara_Knight) March 25, 2020
― consultant haste (gyac), Wednesday, 25 March 2020 19:44 (four years ago) link
A+
― plax (ico), Wednesday, 25 March 2020 19:51 (four years ago) link
No need to be sorry.
― Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 25 March 2020 20:39 (four years ago) link
no need to aaaargh, you
― ole uncle tiktok (darraghmac), Wednesday, 25 March 2020 21:37 (four years ago) link
I posted about this initiative before but it’s seriously good
"It's a real feel-good initiative and one of the best things I've ever done."A fundraising campaign to feed hospital and emergency workers in Ireland has raised more than €330,000 in just ten days.#feedtheheroes #coronavirus pic.twitter.com/paX6r0mKcP— RTÉ News (@rtenews) March 26, 2020
― consultant haste (gyac), Thursday, 26 March 2020 11:16 (four years ago) link
most days i pass the aras and look not a sign of them
twont do
― ole uncle tiktok (darraghmac), Thursday, 26 March 2020 20:42 (four years ago) link
The dogs?
― extremely Dutch coughing sound (gyac), Thursday, 26 March 2020 20:48 (four years ago) link
well the dogs but id settle for himself i spose
― ole uncle tiktok (darraghmac), Thursday, 26 March 2020 21:10 (four years ago) link
I’m just in awe of his pronunciation coronaviiiiiiirusAnd that poem he wrote was lovely https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ET-7TTTWoAEsDyh?format=jpg&name=largehttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/ET-7T4aXgAEPFmC?format=jpg&name=medium
― extremely Dutch coughing sound (gyac), Thursday, 26 March 2020 21:52 (four years ago) link
I’m legitimately considering buying a box of <classic Irish product that isn’t Tayto>. Is this wise considering I don’t know when I’m home again? Y/n
― extremely Dutch coughing sound (gyac), Thursday, 26 March 2020 23:16 (four years ago) link
lyons or barrys
― ole uncle tiktok (darraghmac), Thursday, 26 March 2020 23:36 (four years ago) link
Don’t drink tea. Nah it was Manhattan popcorn but I got as far as checkout before seeing the cost of delivery!
― extremely Dutch coughing sound (gyac), Thursday, 26 March 2020 23:38 (four years ago) link
never heard of it
is it like chicago pizza
― ole uncle tiktok (darraghmac), Thursday, 26 March 2020 23:58 (four years ago) link
when there's only one brand of popcorn nobody knows its name
― rí an techno (seandalai), Friday, 27 March 2020 00:08 (four years ago) link
perri
....
i mean do you mean prepopped?
kelkin
i think thats all i got without checkin
― ole uncle tiktok (darraghmac), Friday, 27 March 2020 00:43 (four years ago) link
Lads come on!https://d2wwnnx8tks4e8.cloudfront.net/images/app/large/5099274000118_3.JPGPerri popcorn is not good, though I will always have a soft spot for the brand after winning a box of their crisps as a child. It doesn’t help that the prepopped popcorn you can buy here is luxury shite that’s not half as good for twice the price.
― extremely Dutch coughing sound (gyac), Friday, 27 March 2020 08:43 (four years ago) link
the professed Manhattan ignorance is a bit odd alright
― Number None, Friday, 27 March 2020 08:50 (four years ago) link
id know the bag now i see it
less analysis, more contribution there now please
― ole uncle tiktok (darraghmac), Friday, 27 March 2020 08:57 (four years ago) link
People say the crisps are good but I’ve never seen them on sale anywhere. My school’s shop used to routinely sell out of their popcorn.
― extremely Dutch coughing sound (gyac), Friday, 27 March 2020 09:20 (four years ago) link
Can this Limerick man please do all the governments social distancing announcements from now on? pic.twitter.com/nBL6ZSc3HW— The Blindboy Podcast (@Rubberbandits) March 27, 2020
― ole uncle tiktok (darraghmac), Friday, 27 March 2020 12:40 (four years ago) link
Definitely one for the “I love the Irish accent 😍” crowd.
― extremely Dutch coughing sound (gyac), Friday, 27 March 2020 12:42 (four years ago) link
― ole uncle tiktok (darraghmac), Friday, 27 March 2020 12:53 (four years ago) link
have that then
― ole uncle tiktok (darraghmac), Friday, 27 March 2020 12:54 (four years ago) link
chrisht a man watches a movie and the whole fuckin country gets shut down
― ole uncle tiktok (darraghmac), Friday, 27 March 2020 21:18 (four years ago) link
we just got the pay cuts chat from our CEO today, so that was the cherry on top
― Number None, Friday, 27 March 2020 21:29 (four years ago) link
fucks sake, really sorry to hear NN
― extremely Dutch coughing sound (gyac), Friday, 27 March 2020 21:30 (four years ago) link
best thing is, today was just the teaser. We find out the amount on Monday!
but sure lookit, could be much worse and I'm confident I won't lose my job so can't overly complain
― Number None, Friday, 27 March 2020 21:35 (four years ago) link
people have been saying lookit far too often for my comfort recently but lookit, it is what it is
― extremely Dutch coughing sound (gyac), Friday, 27 March 2020 21:37 (four years ago) link
#Breaking: Dept for Foreign Affairs is warning Irish nationals in the US on short-term visas, who risk losing employment, financial security & health care due to the Covid-19 to return to Ireland— RTÉ News (@rtenews) March 27, 2020
― extremely Dutch coughing sound (gyac), Friday, 27 March 2020 21:38 (four years ago) link
sorry to hear that nn, hope its short and as painless as possible
― ole uncle tiktok (darraghmac), Friday, 27 March 2020 21:39 (four years ago) link
It must be admitted that the English people are at present doing their utmost to justify the low estimate in which their rulers hold them.— James Connolly (@ConnollyEbooks) March 28, 2020
― extremely Dutch coughing sound (gyac), Sunday, 29 March 2020 23:39 (four years ago) link
A headline appropriate for any day of any year between 1171 and today. pic.twitter.com/il6F4V7xXd— Liam Bright (@lastpositivist) April 1, 2020
― silby, Wednesday, 1 April 2020 19:44 (three years ago) link
looks like we're going to be grand lads
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/coronavirus-more-striking-evidence-bcg-vaccine-might-protect-against-covid-19-1.4222110
― Number None, Monday, 6 April 2020 18:13 (three years ago) link
still not worth it tbfh
― ole uncle tiktok (darraghmac), Monday, 6 April 2020 18:18 (three years ago) link
id swear the mane aul cunt public health nurse who gave it me out the letterkenny road broke it off in the bone
― ole uncle tiktok (darraghmac), Monday, 6 April 2020 18:19 (three years ago) link
I assumed the UK had a mandatory BCG vaccination programme but apparently that was only from 1953 to 2005 - still covers an awful lot of the population!
― Did somebody just say eat? (Tom D.), Monday, 6 April 2020 18:41 (three years ago) link
self fp-ed bcz at first glance i read the URL as "bog vaccine"
― mark s, Monday, 6 April 2020 19:05 (three years ago) link
its the first time the anniversary of the gfa falls on gf btw
― plax (ico), Friday, 10 April 2020 10:52 (three years ago) link
There yah have it folks. pic.twitter.com/ijhM8OsHrz— Fleggy McFleggerson (@FleggyM) April 10, 2020
― calzino, Sunday, 12 April 2020 11:53 (three years ago) link
I'm not sure if everyone's seen the Lainey Doyle thread:
I don't understand the British media. I really, really don't.Basic things: Ireland and the UK started this pandemic with roughly the same number of ICU beds (6.5 per 100,000 for Ireland, 6.6 per 100,000 in the UK).If anything, the UK was slightly better off. pic.twitter.com/owhHMUZccU— Lainey Doyle (@laineydoyle) April 12, 2020
Something interesting but unsurprising in the comments is someone saying that the North has followed the Republic rather than GB, and is doing better because of it.
― Andrew Farrell, Sunday, 12 April 2020 12:14 (three years ago) link
excellent thread
― ole uncle tiktok (darraghmac), Sunday, 12 April 2020 13:53 (three years ago) link
(xp) Irish Sea has come in useful too, I imagine. Also, no Rangers games, so no need to go to Glasgow every other weekend.
― The Corbynite Maneuver (Tom D.), Sunday, 12 April 2020 14:23 (three years ago) link
What a bunch of fucking idiots. pic.twitter.com/WIkCLD6NIc— Daithi K. (@tvcritics) April 21, 2020
there's been a bit of Irish anti-lockdown idiocy it seems.
― calzino, Tuesday, 21 April 2020 15:49 (three years ago) link
just drop a giant glass dome over them, sorted
― clap for content-providers (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 21 April 2020 16:11 (three years ago) link
same rent a ghoul crowd as have been on the wrong side of everything else this past ten year
― steer calmer (darraghmac), Tuesday, 21 April 2020 16:20 (three years ago) link
is that john waters (not that john waters) in the middle?
― plax (ico), Tuesday, 21 April 2020 17:56 (three years ago) link
And Gemma O next to him
― Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 21 April 2020 17:58 (three years ago) link
Reading up on him, he seems like a real piece of work, this Waters character... and he has a daughter with Sinead O'Connor!
― The Corbynite Maneuver (Tom D.), Tuesday, 21 April 2020 19:12 (three years ago) link
hes a cunt
― steer calmer (darraghmac), Tuesday, 21 April 2020 19:47 (three years ago) link
as close as we have to a peterson, but id argue worse tbh
― steer calmer (darraghmac), Tuesday, 21 April 2020 19:48 (three years ago) link
this guy has been very good imo
Some interesting weaponizing of Ireland's death rate going on by very ignorant people."Ireland have the 9th highest death rate per capita".Do we now.— Danny Boy (@Care2much18) April 22, 2020
― steer calmer (darraghmac), Wednesday, 22 April 2020 10:00 (three years ago) link
short story
we're doing much better than it looks on death per capita than the various comparisons would seem to show
though we wont really know anything til next year earliest
― steer calmer (darraghmac), Wednesday, 22 April 2020 10:01 (three years ago) link
what do we make of the government's current "stop being naughty or we'll extend the lockdown" approach?
tbh they're going to struggle to keep people in check for the bank holiday weekend let alone beyond the 5th
― Number None, Monday, 27 April 2020 17:29 (three years ago) link
i think it leaves them a little wriggle either way
experts will advise a lockdown for further with some limited exceptions
tabloids and twitter will demand freedom
they dont need to show cards for now but prob wise to flag that both options are open
― kim rong un (darraghmac), Monday, 27 April 2020 19:20 (three years ago) link
Could do with a rainy spell for next weekend.Been really nice all week.& people are out using the public furniture and exercise machines around the park. Playing in the adventure playground.So if there is another wave imminent will they continue to try to continue the isolation.
― Stevolende, Monday, 27 April 2020 20:24 (three years ago) link
https://www.independent.ie/world-news/coronavirus/lockdown-extended-for-another-two-weeks-for-the-vast-majority-39162734.html
― Number None, Tuesday, 28 April 2020 08:06 (three years ago) link
makes sense. groups will need to be exposed in sections i think
― kim rong un (darraghmac), Tuesday, 28 April 2020 08:51 (three years ago) link
Two weeks from friday seems to be a bit ambitious and reducing the social distancing rules seems a bit counterproductive.I thought there wasn't any guaranteed immunity from having been through a bout of covid either.So surprised by that news.thought this was going to go oon for a while longer whatever.Aren't there going to be a load more cases of infection after the coming weekend anyway, which would presuambly only be showing theirfull blown infection in 2 weeks time.So sounds a little premature doesn't it?
― Stevolende, Tuesday, 28 April 2020 10:05 (three years ago) link
How puppets work. pic.twitter.com/W9ocR99z8B— Daithi K. (@tvcritics) April 29, 2020
― calzino, Wednesday, 29 April 2020 23:32 (three years ago) link
Ionanist is such a good term.I take it it's always used of somebody else rather than by the individual themself?
― Stevolende, Wednesday, 29 April 2020 23:46 (three years ago) link
why is every man on irish tv a hotel manager?
― plax (ico), Monday, 18 May 2020 16:40 (three years ago) link
https://irishboston.org/images/march/ryan-tubridy.jpg
"i'll have dearbhla add those 'additional expenses' (cocaine!) to your bill"
― plax (ico), Monday, 18 May 2020 16:43 (three years ago) link
this is the basic vibe on literally every rte program
― plax (ico), Monday, 18 May 2020 16:44 (three years ago) link
Sometimes I think about how there was an Irish laundry firm called Swastika Laundry which predated the Nazis rise to power but continued to use the name and distinctive logo well after WWII, up until 1987. pic.twitter.com/sB6vvjnyFr— Mr Demos of Pnyx (@gem_ste) May 19, 2020
― calzino, Tuesday, 19 May 2020 16:27 (three years ago) link
In his May 2007 interview with Jason O'Toole, former Minister for Health Cowen admitted to smoking marijuana, saying,
Anyone who went to the UCD bar in the '70s that didn't get a whiff of marijuana would be telling you a lie. I would say there were a couple of occasions when it was passed around – and, unlike President Clinton, I did inhale! There wasn't a whole lot in it really – (it was like) a Sweet Afton, as a 10-year-old, under a railway bridge on a rainy day, in small town Ireland in the late '60s. I certainly got more enjoyment out of a few pints.
― Andrew Farrell, Saturday, 23 May 2020 13:21 (three years ago) link
I found it. The worst take. pic.twitter.com/oKLt7YnPnU— Liam Hogan (@Limerick1914) May 31, 2020
and the replies particularly this thread
COME OUT, YE BLACK AND TANSCOME OUT, DEBATE ME MAN TO MAN— 🐟🎄The Christmas Fish🎄🐟 (@TheXmasFish) May 31, 2020
― Andrew Farrell, Monday, 1 June 2020 10:39 (three years ago) link
Nelson Mandela founded the armed wing of the ANC, you dingbat. https://t.co/WGuad7OKLU— Ash Sarkar (@AyoCaesar) June 1, 2020
reminds me of this, when history is Duntified by moronic libs!
― calzino, Monday, 1 June 2020 10:47 (three years ago) link
Fuck offfffffhttps://www.thejournal.ie/uk-court-family-irish-phrase-grave-headstone-5112813-Jun2020/
UK church asks family to translate Irish phrase on mum's grave amid concerns it could be 'seen as political'Judge Stephen Eyre said non-Gaeilgeoirs might think the phrase was “some form of slogan”.
― Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 2 June 2020 16:15 (three years ago) link
WTF? Plus a Church Court? Oh, right, it's Church of England.
― Is Lou Reed a Good Singer? (Tom D.), Tuesday, 2 June 2020 16:45 (three years ago) link
absolute fuckin shitshow
― plax (ico), Thursday, 16 July 2020 18:16 (three years ago) link
I mean I'd never bet against it, but was there something in particular...?
― Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 16 July 2020 20:19 (three years ago) link
Your man from labour falling asleep during a vote on workers rights wasn’t it
― scampos mentis (gyac), Thursday, 16 July 2020 21:01 (three years ago) link
Imagine earning a TDs salary to go in & fall asleep at work. https://t.co/F8254sDK0Y— Daithi K. (@tvcritics) July 16, 2020
this?
― calzino, Thursday, 16 July 2020 21:07 (three years ago) link
oh no I think that is US, but I got it off an Irish poster!
― calzino, Thursday, 16 July 2020 21:11 (three years ago) link
oh no scratch that it is Eamon Ryan from the green party and some other twat
― calzino, Thursday, 16 July 2020 21:14 (three years ago) link
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-07-15/apple-wins-eu-court-fight-over-14-9-billion-tax-bill
― plax (ico), Friday, 17 July 2020 05:42 (three years ago) link
Fg are landlords and thugs
Which fucking prick wrote this????https://theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/jul/20/the-guardian-view-on-irish-politics-an-enviable-beauty-is-born
The new nation is the Irish Republic.
Before Brexit and Mr Johnson, Ireland might have taken an informal cue on handling the pandemic from its larger and richer neighbour.
Where is this leading? The coalition has a clear majority. All three parties voted decisively for it.
The post-pandemic reopening of pubs this week has had to be pushed back because of a spike in cases.
This is nevertheless a salutary moment. Step by step, Ireland’s old nationalist politics, shaped by Britain in so many ways, have moved on.
Ireland is prospering by doing things more rationally and in ways that are firmly rooted in the state’s membership of multilateral institutions. The many in these islands who yearn for Britain to do likewise can only look on as, in Ireland, an enviable beauty is born.
― scampos mentis (gyac), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 14:03 (three years ago) link
Deems (bless his soul) would've thrown that report straight into this thread
― Scampidocio (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 14:11 (three years ago) link
#yearnforbritain
― Scampidocio (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 14:12 (three years ago) link
Lol, was wondering when that guardian article would show up here!
― plax (ico), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 17:59 (three years ago) link
The civil rights campaigner, Nobel Peace Prize winner and SDLP stalwart died at Owen Mor nursing home in his beloved Derry after a short illness.One of the most influential figures in the modern history of this island. pic.twitter.com/6uhD0EOrWy— Richard Chambers (@newschambers) August 3, 2020
The great love of his life, his wife Pat, said in 2018 that John Hume didn't remember much of what he achieved in his life - Sunningdale, the Anglo-Irish Agreement, the Good Friday Agreement.It is a testament to his brilliance, that the island will never forget that work.— Richard Chambers (@newschambers) August 3, 2020
― let them microwave their rice (gyac), Monday, 3 August 2020 11:44 (three years ago) link
Some people ask, “what makes you proud to be Irish? The culture, the music, the superior dairy products?” While these are all good shouts, the only true answer is “ilxors are unconsciously picking and using Hiberno-Irish, thereby confirming it as the site’s prestige dialect.”
― caută tu singur (gyac), Wednesday, 19 August 2020 19:02 (three years ago) link
ha, haven't noticed this. I'll keep an eye out
― Temporary Erogenous Zone (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 19 August 2020 19:11 (three years ago) link
…the plot thickens:
Montreal!
Book Group: They're reading Helen DeWitt's "The Last Samurai" (nothing to do with the Tom Cruise movie!) over at Conversational Reading - Maybe we should do the same here?
― pomenitul, Wednesday, 19 August 2020 19:17 (three years ago) link
Love and hate this depressing incestuous country and its cronyism
#Golfgate is more than the dinner itself. It's a perfect illustration of how cosy Ireland's elite are together - high court judge, former political journalist on Ireland's public service broadcaster, TD's, Senators, banking lobbyists and "good" families, all sitting down together— Sorcha Ní Aoláin (@SJTHolland) August 21, 2020
― beef stannin’ (gyac), Friday, 21 August 2020 15:03 (three years ago) link
I feel there might now be popular support for my platform of attendees to Oireachtas Golf Society events to be greeted by machine-gun fire - the problem is maintaining that support next year if Covid is no longer an issue.
There will be a lot of people thinking "The politicians giving out about this are jealous that they weren't there".
Also, they're not entirely wrong there.
― Andrew Farrell, Friday, 21 August 2020 17:02 (three years ago) link
I mean, yeah? Look at the names, that’s a pretty good list of your typical room where the decisions get made.
― beef stannin’ (gyac), Friday, 21 August 2020 17:20 (three years ago) link
Taken by David Minihane off Castletownbere on Monday. Just wait for it...... pic.twitter.com/naumi7E7Xn— Cork Beo (@corkbeo) August 22, 2020
― beef stannin’ (gyac), Saturday, 22 August 2020 19:24 (three years ago) link
whale say hi to me
― contorted filbert (harbl), Saturday, 22 August 2020 19:34 (three years ago) link
i'm going to ireland in a couple of weeks! literally years since i was there not during christmas although this may obviously be in lieu of
― plax (ico), Tuesday, 8 September 2020 21:51 (three years ago) link
Are you watching the ESB ad or wha
― scampo italiano (gyac), Tuesday, 8 September 2020 21:53 (three years ago) link
But also, why do you go home so infrequently? Don’t answer if personal, obviously.
lol can't be arsed!
― plax (ico), Tuesday, 8 September 2020 21:55 (three years ago) link
ireland or marseille this summer? hmmm
― plax (ico), Tuesday, 8 September 2020 21:56 (three years ago) link
Meanwhile in Ireland
#Breaking The Cabinet is to self-isolate and the Dáil has been adjourned following news that Minister for Health Stephen Donnelly is unwell and being tested for Covid-19— RTÉ News (@rtenews) September 15, 2020
― scampo italiano (gyac), Tuesday, 15 September 2020 16:32 (three years ago) link
Big shouts to Irish-America for the sharp intake of breath you just coerced me into having pic.twitter.com/QEiCT3p7Sb— Myles na gCovid-19. (@EXECUTIVESTEVE) September 16, 2020
― Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 17 September 2020 12:44 (three years ago) link
Obsessed with O’Neill’s in Soho actively choosing to tell this story of terminal cultural decline pic.twitter.com/kfaKhF13hg— Sean Bernard (@seanbgoneill) September 18, 2020
― scampo italiano (gyac), Saturday, 19 September 2020 22:32 (three years ago) link
I stayed in a Travelodge in swords last night and was so desperate for shit Irish telly I ended up watching all two hours of an episode of Maura and daithi from 2019
― plax (ico), Sunday, 20 September 2020 19:26 (three years ago) link
On YouTube (the TV was broken)
― plax (ico), Sunday, 20 September 2020 19:27 (three years ago) link
There is, of course, previous between our island and The Economist:
In deeply Protestant England, they think a German woman has magic blood and throw money at her and her dogs to live in huge palaces whilst their children go hungry https://t.co/FE3ddvC8wp— The Man Don't Give A... (@JurassicArse) September 22, 2020
the people, rapidly increasing, have been reduced, by acts for which they are chiefly to blame, to a sole reliance on the precarious crop of potatoes. It would be unjust to Ireland – it would be a neglect of a great duty which is imposed on us at this time – if we did not point to this calamity, assuming as it does this aggravated form, as in a great measure the natural result of that crime which has precluded the people from other available resources. That the innocent suffer with the guilty, is a melancholy truth, but it is one of the great conditions on which all society exists. Every breach of the laws of morality and social order brings its own punishment and inconvenience. Where there is not perfect security, there cannot be prosperity. This is the first law of civilization.
― ciorapomenitul (gyac), Tuesday, 22 September 2020 17:44 (three years ago) link
In fairness, her, her dad and her grandad are English, and Buckingham Palace is publicly owned so the UK is her landlord and kinda required to discharge its duties as such. If we're going to go after rich people for not contributing, she's waaaaay down the list.— FalanxZealot (@FalanxZ) September 22, 2020
P good comeback 2 this
― Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Tuesday, 22 September 2020 17:47 (three years ago) link
Not really
― ciorapomenitul (gyac), Tuesday, 22 September 2020 17:56 (three years ago) link
No I mean the reply to that reply. Why am I posting replies idk I suck today
― Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Tuesday, 22 September 2020 17:57 (three years ago) link
Oh yes i definitely laughed at that, he’s one of the best accounts on the godforsaken site
― ciorapomenitul (gyac), Tuesday, 22 September 2020 17:59 (three years ago) link
Jon Bon Jovi on Armchair Podcast speaking about how his upbringing was different to Bono "I didn't have Orangemen walking through his neighborhood saying get the Catholic kid and beat him up"— [Dave Leahy] (@daveleahy) October 6, 2020
lool!
― calzino, Tuesday, 6 October 2020 18:43 (three years ago) link
lolol
― here comes the hotstamper (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 6 October 2020 18:49 (three years ago) link
We Now Go Live To Finglas. pic.twitter.com/L0j7qCHeGb— Féach News (@_FeachNews) October 6, 2020
― calzino, Tuesday, 6 October 2020 20:33 (three years ago) link
bono isn't even catholic iirc?
― here comes the hotstamper (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 6 October 2020 20:34 (three years ago) link
my mum said once when she was driving her sister Joan from Dublin to Kilbrew she pointed at a very grand house somewhere and said that's where Bono grew up, but she said it was nothing on the mansion the Coyle's of Tayto crisps fame lived in! It wouldn't surprise me if he wasn't catholic.
― calzino, Tuesday, 6 October 2020 20:40 (three years ago) link
I just googled, catholic dad, protestant mum, grew up going to church of Ireland, went to a catholic primary school and a protestant secondary.
― here comes the hotstamper (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 6 October 2020 20:42 (three years ago) link
classic centrist twat!
my mum has an obsession with the Coyle family because at some point they wanted to adopt her and save her from her freerolling not very good parents who used to go missing for weeks, but it didn't happen and she ended up in the care of an industrial school instead!
― calzino, Tuesday, 6 October 2020 20:46 (three years ago) link
christ, that's unfortunate.
― here comes the hotstamper (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 6 October 2020 20:47 (three years ago) link
when I was talking to her earlier she says her brother (who died earlier this year of prostate cancer) who represented + organised of dozens industrial school survivors in taking their case against the Catholic church has left his archive of interviews and documents related to that casework to Sheffield University.
― calzino, Tuesday, 6 October 2020 21:14 (three years ago) link
All this trolling of Bono on Twitter today is really unfair. He went through enough in Long Kesh. pic.twitter.com/jskRl4VBPH— Patricia MacBride (@IRLPatricia) October 7, 2020
― calzino, Wednesday, 7 October 2020 15:59 (three years ago) link
big shout out to the historically racist housing policies in islington council that have left a large enough irish population in my neighbourhood that sainsburys stocks barmbrack.
― plax (ico), Thursday, 29 October 2020 16:22 (three years ago) link
Plax I’m wildly jealous. N7? The oifig an phoist there was full of seandaoine the day I visited.
― liberté, égalité, scampé (gyac), Thursday, 29 October 2020 18:40 (three years ago) link
lol just the angel sainsburys
― plax (ico), Thursday, 29 October 2020 19:19 (three years ago) link
how good is brack tho
no ring unfor
I don’t like brack tbh tbh but I’ve been to that angel many many timesHowever I will tell you I introduced the other half to purple snacks over lockdown and he’s a fan. Like so many things though, they’re not as nice as they used to be.
― liberté, égalité, scampé (gyac), Thursday, 29 October 2020 19:26 (three years ago) link
tempted to try the shop in the irish centre a go someday soon
― plax (ico), Thursday, 29 October 2020 19:41 (three years ago) link
would love a purple snack, if you could get a purple snack
You can buy 3 6-packs on Amazon for £10, not great but cheaper than the last time I bought them at home.
― liberté, égalité, scampé (gyac), Thursday, 29 October 2020 19:46 (three years ago) link
But I’ve wanted to go to that shop for ages, will you see if they have Polo biscuits? I really miss them.
― liberté, égalité, scampé (gyac), Thursday, 29 October 2020 19:47 (three years ago) link
will report. i suspect its just cidona taytos and that ballymaloe stuff
― plax (ico), Thursday, 29 October 2020 20:27 (three years ago) link
find me somewhere in london that sells annascaul black pudding and i'll be really impressed
Love this story
Priests have said they are upset by the "very hurtful criticism" of "mass-hoppers" who go from one online mass to another passing comments over their "performances".https://t.co/GqTjbDLIax— Independent.ie (@Independent_ie) November 10, 2020
According to Fr Tim Hazelwood, a spokesman for the Association of Catholic Priests (ACP), which represents over 1,000 Irish priests, "mass-hoppers" are undermining many priests who are already self-conscious and are "not performers".
― scampus fugit (gyac), Thursday, 12 November 2020 08:02 (three years ago) link
I heard there was a suggestion that Xmas be moved to late January to help combat Covid.I was buying bread and this story came on the news on the radio while i was doing so.So that's it then. Canceled Ester and all the oher parades this year.Bah humbug
― Stevolende, Thursday, 12 November 2020 09:16 (three years ago) link
masshoppers need not apply xp
― you are like a scampicane, there's calm in your fries (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 12 November 2020 09:29 (three years ago) link
The thing is this is just the kind of stuff that goes on in a lot of households, but can’t imagine it’s much fun hearing the unfiltered verdict of a critical Irish granny.
― scampus fugit (gyac), Thursday, 12 November 2020 09:46 (three years ago) link
It goes on in the church hall over a cup of tea ten minutes after communion.
― Clean-up on ILX (onimo), Friday, 13 November 2020 21:44 (three years ago) link
I remember a local priest having a following. he was moved to my old parish when it came free upon the death of the old priest, he brought a following with him from the other parish, as in tens of people, and gave all the lay person roles like sacristan etc to members of this group. a lot of the locals didn't rate him, but some fell under his spell
― Politically homely (jim in vancouver), Friday, 13 November 2020 22:00 (three years ago) link
so many priest are fucking shit at saying mass. lots of nervous ones who can't hold eye contact
The flashy ones are going to set up their own Padréon accounts.
― trishyb, Saturday, 14 November 2020 00:37 (three years ago) link
I feel sick, I feel sick, we are in hell.
An MP stood in the House of Commons today and called a man that was shot dead in front of his wife and children “the IRAs solicitor of choice” and it hasn’t caused a ripple over there.I still can’t get over it— Seána (@GrantSana) November 30, 2020
― scampus fugit (gyac), Tuesday, 1 December 2020 00:24 (three years ago) link
Was chatting shit about the wrong fucking party as well, but hey, Paddies right
I'm not in Sinn Féin and I think what the government have done is a total disgrace. Do you think it's OK for a government to murder it's own citizens then refuse a proper inquiry into that murder @LordIanAustin ? https://t.co/M10M1MQ9ZN— Colum Eastwood (@columeastwood) November 30, 2020
― scampus fugit (gyac), Tuesday, 1 December 2020 00:28 (three years ago) link
Lord Ian Austin. Horrible cunt.
― ILXceptionalism (Tom D.), Tuesday, 1 December 2020 00:37 (three years ago) link
I think that the British establishment is moving away from being able to handle a topic like finucanes murder and the surrounding collusion at light speed tbh, the bloody Sunday apology feels like it's likely to be an anomaly in so many ways
― spruce springclean (darraghmac), Tuesday, 1 December 2020 00:53 (three years ago) link
Yes. Have tried not to think about it much all day because I might cry when I do
― scampus fugit (gyac), Tuesday, 1 December 2020 00:57 (three years ago) link
fucking Baron Ian Austin makes Frank Field (who was good friends with Thatcher) seem like a moderate, a sickening little creep.
― calzino, Tuesday, 1 December 2020 08:36 (three years ago) link
As a QC who specialised in human rights issues, it’s very odd that the leader of the Opposition at Westminster, Keir Starmer, hasn’t said a word about the Govt’s failure to announce a public inquiry into the state’s illegal killing of a fellow human rights lawyer. Remarkable even— Chris Hazzard (@ChrisHazzardSF) December 1, 2020
― calzino, Tuesday, 1 December 2020 08:43 (three years ago) link
the diminutive dog-shagger Austin deleted his Finucane tweet, even some of horrible tory friends said he was trying a bit too hard.
― calzino, Tuesday, 1 December 2020 21:32 (three years ago) link
Has the man ever spoken for the nation so well?
Same. pic.twitter.com/987xdfc7G3— Gavan Reilly (@gavreilly) December 2, 2020
― scampus fugit (gyac), Wednesday, 2 December 2020 15:29 (three years ago) link
sounds dope rly
― Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Wednesday, 2 December 2020 15:48 (three years ago) link
He sounds sincere tbf
― spruce springclean (darraghmac), Wednesday, 2 December 2020 16:44 (three years ago) link
As sincere as I’ve ever seen him
― scampus fugit (gyac), Wednesday, 2 December 2020 16:47 (three years ago) link
Newgrange stream from 8.45 here
― scampish inquisition (gyac), Monday, 21 December 2020 08:38 (three years ago) link
loved this
― plax (ico), Monday, 21 December 2020 10:21 (three years ago) link
got a result this morning
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esAkRoqjKx4
― Number None, Tuesday, 22 December 2020 11:46 (three years ago) link
I had an early meeting this morning so I’m sorry to have missed this one, but I’ve loved watching this week. It really makes you feel privileged to be able to witness it.
― scampish inquisition (gyac), Tuesday, 22 December 2020 11:55 (three years ago) link
I feel like Newgrange is somehow underrated? Like everyone knows about it, you learn about it in school, and it's just always...there. But when you go and stand in that chamber and feel the actual weight of history above you... It's magical
― Number None, Tuesday, 22 December 2020 12:03 (three years ago) link
On the first stream, when they had a beautiful clear day and the sun was entering the chamber, they had a lovely shot of the “sun dagger” from above and your man said “when i see this, the word ‘immutable’ comes to mind, in other words we are touching the ancestors, and we are experiencing something that five thousand years ago was similarly experienced”.
― scampish inquisition (gyac), Tuesday, 22 December 2020 12:48 (three years ago) link
But when you go and stand in that chamber and feel the actual weight of history above you... It's magical
The lack of development around it is great as well. When you go and stand on that hill and there isn't a major road in sight or a housing estate, or anything beyond a few farms, it's beautiful.
― trishyb, Tuesday, 22 December 2020 14:17 (three years ago) link
Anne Rabbitte at it again, I see.
In April 2019, Rabbitte criticised plans to excavate the site of the former Bon Secours Mother and Baby Home in Tuam, describing it as "a wilful waste of public money", and questioned if the intention was to dig up every cillín (burial ground for stillborn and unbaptized infants) in Ireland.
Rabbitte: "As a mother I wonder what sort of societal pressure I'd have to be under to turn my back on my children… society must be responsible for forcing the hands of these families… the circle of blame is vast"— Gavan Reilly (@gavreilly) January 12, 2021
― scampish inquisition (gyac), Tuesday, 12 January 2021 17:00 (three years ago) link
If RTÉ replaced the Angelus with a minute dedicated to someone who died in the M&BH, one day dedicated per each individual, that would be 25 years for the babies alone— Suzie (@leninjapirate) January 12, 2021
― scampish inquisition (gyac), Thursday, 14 January 2021 11:21 (three years ago) link
Fuck
― Ole Blueyes Solskjaer (darraghmac), Thursday, 14 January 2021 11:26 (three years ago) link
― scampish inquisition (gyac), Thursday, 14 January 2021 11:26 (three years ago) link
Somebody in Moscow has built a replica of iconic Dublin pub @ODonoghues15. What’s more, unlike the ‘real’ version, it’s open, has customers in it, and is selling pints. pic.twitter.com/EEnuMpamUw— Bryan MacDonald (@27khv) January 26, 2021
― scampish inquisition (gyac), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 19:26 (three years ago) link
ah, but can you get the pint of Harp?
― Fenners' Pen (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 19:29 (three years ago) link
Nice
― Qanondorf (darraghmac), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 19:38 (three years ago) link
Genuinely thought the badly censored guy was wearing a gimp mask there for a minute.
― new variant (onimo), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 22:53 (three years ago) link
Or rubber-banding it
― Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 26 January 2021 22:56 (three years ago) link
I heard the guinness isnt great lads, cancel the minibus
― Qanondorf (darraghmac), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 23:06 (three years ago) link
Also just spotted uncensored creepy looking guy in the first photo.
― new variant (onimo), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 23:10 (three years ago) link
Doesn't travel, I hear xp
― new variant (onimo), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 23:11 (three years ago) link
Horrible
Watching him deal with this his entire career, so just having my say after 9 years of constant abuse. pic.twitter.com/5nEyujhpZw— Erin McClean (@Erineyy) February 15, 2021
― scampless, rattled and puce (gyac), Monday, 15 February 2021 21:04 (three years ago) link
Nasty fuckin stuff
― scampsite (darraghmac), Monday, 15 February 2021 21:12 (three years ago) link
Here is the blacklist of Irish surnames produced by Pontins and uploaded to its intranetIt was headed "UNDESIRABLE GUESTS" pic.twitter.com/poQNC6up8h— Chris Green (@ChrisGreenNews) March 2, 2021
― scampless, rattled and puce (gyac), Tuesday, 2 March 2021 10:24 (three years ago) link
Hey, we're not on there, that can't be right.
― Punk's not daft (Tom D.), Tuesday, 2 March 2021 10:27 (three years ago) link
Susan Boyle, Jimmy Carr, Rory Gallagher, Bruce Lee, Paddy McGuiness, James Murphy, Richard O'Brien and all of the Nolan sisters are not welcome at Pontins.
― Bastard Lakes (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 2 March 2021 10:28 (three years ago) link
Ive checked the list and seems ok, go to print imo
― e-skate to the chapeau (darraghmac), Tuesday, 2 March 2021 10:35 (three years ago) link
i like the cutesy gandalf meme paired with the racist policy memo
― treeship., Tuesday, 2 March 2021 10:51 (three years ago) link
and no Conamarans and no dogs either!
― calzino, Tuesday, 2 March 2021 10:57 (three years ago) link
my brother's ex-wife was from a Connemaran family and she was boasting how their family was a such powerful and influential lot in some village and the main well sat on their land or something and then when she was visiting he said she got dysentery or something nearly as bad from drinking water from the well! This was in the early 90's as well not the early 20's!
― calzino, Tuesday, 2 March 2021 11:09 (three years ago) link
When the families have been in situ for the few hundred years local politics gets into some petty shit
― e-skate to the chapeau (darraghmac), Tuesday, 2 March 2021 11:21 (three years ago) link
Which is awkward at discos because well you have to shift *someone* ffs
Real Ireland! If at one point my mum had decided to stay over there then I'd have been a connected guy in a Kerry building business and middle class by kerry standards. So perhaps just a different kind of arsehole to what England has made me into!
― calzino, Tuesday, 2 March 2021 11:33 (three years ago) link
Sher look one brother over and id have been a multimillionaire meself but alas
― e-skate to the chapeau (darraghmac), Tuesday, 2 March 2021 11:40 (three years ago) link
as a Connemara I can vouch for your dysentery story the water system here has been badly affected by corruption peaking with the crypto sporidium scandal in the early 00s that left large parts Galway with undrinkable tap water for years
― plax (ico), Tuesday, 2 March 2021 14:02 (three years ago) link
it seems during the boom years lots of that money that was sloshing around in Ireland wasn't spent how it ought to have been
― calzino, Tuesday, 2 March 2021 14:47 (three years ago) link
Never!
― Punk's not daft (Tom D.), Tuesday, 2 March 2021 14:48 (three years ago) link
My name's on the Pontins blacklist, but I got into ATP 2016 under an assumed name and did loads of redacted so the joke's on them. Unless the joke is on me because half the headliners cancelled idk
― hiroyoshi tins in (Sgt. Biscuits), Tuesday, 2 March 2021 18:16 (three years ago) link
Getting vaccines to all your friends, family and kids’ teachers, all while running a busy hospital? I wanna tell ya... try it sometime! pic.twitter.com/43HUyuJYI9— jack (@jackalexe) March 30, 2021
― Number None, Tuesday, 30 March 2021 12:07 (two years ago) link
― theRZA the JZA and the NDB (darraghmac), Tuesday, 10 September 2019 14:25 (one year ago) bookmarkflaglink
Its a wonder imo folens havent picked me up yet with notes like this
― your own personal qanon (darraghmac), Thursday, 1 April 2021 00:08 (two years ago) link
Hilarious story. What a prick.
Oh my. https://t.co/qT31iOh3b5— Richard Chambers (@newschambers) May 6, 2021
― Scamp Granada (gyac), Thursday, 6 May 2021 21:12 (two years ago) link
This review is pretty scathing...
https://www.theguardian.com/music/2021/may/06/van-morrison-new-record-project-volume-one-review
He actually has a song called Why Are You on Facebook? lol
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 6 May 2021 21:24 (two years ago) link
not trying to be a dick here Andy... but so much the wrong thread!
― calzino, Thursday, 6 May 2021 21:27 (two years ago) link
Sorry, sorry - in my mind they're already reunited
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 6 May 2021 21:28 (two years ago) link
Never been sure where Sir George Ivan Morrison OBE stands on that particular subject tbh.
― Authoritarian Steaks (Tom D.), Thursday, 6 May 2021 21:33 (two years ago) link
Wherever he stands, I'm sure it contains grumpy disdain
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 6 May 2021 21:38 (two years ago) link
Think hes too fond of detesting absolutely everyone to take an actual side, not an awful approach tbh
― flagpost fucking (darraghmac), Thursday, 6 May 2021 21:46 (two years ago) link
I bet Petrdisis is fucking living it up on that one star review, now rock-crit graun finally has their own trump. Progress!
― calzino, Thursday, 6 May 2021 21:54 (two years ago) link
We knew this, they knew this, now the ruling says it.
NEW: An inquest has found that 10 people shot dead by the British Army in Ballymurphy in 1971 were innocent and their deaths were without justification.— Lewis Goodall (@lewis_goodall) May 11, 2021
The shootings, which the families refer to as "the Ballymurphy Massacre", happened immediately after the introduction of internment without trial in Northern Ireland.Those who died were Joan Connolly, 44, Joseph Corr, 43, Edward Doherty, 31, John Laverty, 20, John McKerr, 49, Fr Hugh Mullan, 38, Joseph Murray, 41, Noel Phillips, 19, Frank Quinn, 19, and Daniel Teggart, 44.No one has ever been charged or convicted in connection with any of their deaths. The original inquests in 1972 recorded open verdicts. However, fresh inquests were approved in 2011 following a lengthy campaign by the Ballymurphy families.
― Scamp Granada (gyac), Tuesday, 11 May 2021 13:13 (two years ago) link
Pretty sure the UK government will be straining every fibre to ensure no-one is prosecuted.
― Are Animated Dads Getting Hotter? (Tom D.), Tuesday, 11 May 2021 13:17 (two years ago) link
There was supposed to be something in the Queen’s Speech about this today but it’s been dropped 🙃
― Scamp Granada (gyac), Tuesday, 11 May 2021 13:18 (two years ago) link
I follow the Ógra Shinn Féin account and was very glad to see this news and that they unreservedly stand in solidarity with Palestine, unlike the cowardly UK Labour Party.
― calzino, Tuesday, 11 May 2021 13:45 (two years ago) link
about time. very dubious that brit "justice" will do anything to the still-living perpetrators, but we live in hope
― 《Myst1kOblivi0n》 (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 11 May 2021 17:50 (two years ago) link
The official acknowledged must be hugely relieving to the families at the very least. I can’t imagine how it must have been, carrying that burden for so long and fighting for basic recognition like this. Infuriating, but inspiring that they kept it up and the truth, for once, prevailed.
― Scamp Granada (gyac), Tuesday, 11 May 2021 20:41 (two years ago) link
"in the wake of an army operation" sets a new high bar for the passive voice https://t.co/HnpAvUoZwb— Crowsa Luxemburg (@quendergeer) May 11, 2021
― calzino, Tuesday, 11 May 2021 21:27 (two years ago) link
James Connolly was executed at Kilmainham Gaol #OnThisDay in 1916His daughter, Nora Connolly, recalls the last time she saw her father.This interview was recorded for 'Portraits 1916’ on 30 October 1965.https://t.co/hDYvSZ6FEn— RTÉ Archives (@RTEArchives) May 12, 2021
― Scamp Granada (gyac), Wednesday, 12 May 2021 10:48 (two years ago) link
They've been talking about having one in Edinburgh for years but I assume the fact that every Loyalist headbanger in Scotland (and beyond) would descend on it is I assume the problem. He was of course a massive Hibs fan!
― Are Animated Dads Getting Hotter? (Tom D.), Wednesday, 12 May 2021 10:58 (two years ago) link
Working Class Characters by Middle Class Filmmakersw/ @dominic_machale pic.twitter.com/KBT7SOEYnS— Tadhg (@TadhgHickey) May 24, 2021
this is quite amusing
― calzino, Monday, 24 May 2021 09:57 (two years ago) link
Bottle of Bucky is a nice touch.
― Are Animated Dads Getting Hotter? (Tom D.), Monday, 24 May 2021 10:02 (two years ago) link
Very fond of Matt LeBlanc as your uncle https://twitter.com/i/events/1398905503434960898
― Andrew Farrell, Sunday, 30 May 2021 10:33 (two years ago) link
too much hair and healthy skin complexion suggests teetotalism!
― calzino, Sunday, 30 May 2021 10:57 (two years ago) link
never wear a hat in Ireland y/n?
Props to anyone who tries to be fashionable in ireland i wore a red beret once in waterford and someone called me super mario— lady of sophistication (@janky_jane) August 15, 2021
― rob, Tuesday, 17 August 2021 14:15 (two years ago) link
many gems in the replies
Was wearing a vintage nike jacket in a very long que for drinks at a boxing match when a Belfast lad goes “fuck me this is taking forever, your man has been here since the 80’s”— Eoin O Neill (@eoinjoneill) August 17, 2021
I was walking across O'Connell Bridge one day in the Eighties when those little fabric hats with mirrors in them were popular. A guy in front of me was wearing one, and someone coming the other way just plucked it off his head and chucked it in the river.
― trishyb, Tuesday, 17 August 2021 17:24 (two years ago) link
I wore a suit with a matching tie and pocket square to my first day of work at an advertising company (I thought I was going to be in Mad Men I guess) and the staff sent around and signed a communion card for me with a fiver in it.— Loic Wright (@duffles1) August 17, 2021
― fix up luke shawp (darraghmac), Tuesday, 17 August 2021 17:51 (two years ago) link
^that one was a clear "I definitely couldn't hack it in Ireland" message for me--your first day, my god
― rob, Tuesday, 17 August 2021 17:56 (two years ago) link
someone coming the other way just plucked it off his head and chucked it in the river
HOWLING!
― Heavy Messages (jed_), Tuesday, 17 August 2021 17:58 (two years ago) link
is this anti-hat sentiment a known cultural attribute?
― rob, Tuesday, 17 August 2021 17:59 (two years ago) link
Fuck wearing a hat iirc
― Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Tuesday, 17 August 2021 18:00 (two years ago) link
too true
Also wore out a pink fake fur collar on a jacket one time and my friend told me I looked like I was being born 🤣🤣🤣— Áine Kav (@ainekavo) August 16, 2021
― rob, Tuesday, 17 August 2021 18:13 (two years ago) link
Acceptable hats in Ireland: plain wool beanie, flat cap if you are a man, stetson if you are a country and western singer from the Midlands.
― trishyb, Tuesday, 17 August 2021 18:13 (two years ago) link
Broadly accurate id have said
― fix up luke shawp (darraghmac), Tuesday, 17 August 2021 19:03 (two years ago) link
One my colleagues had an ankle-length dark green serge greatcoat, and when he burst through the office doors one day, another looked up and said: "What news of Stalingrad?" 🤣— Philip Nolan (@philipnolan1) August 16, 2021
― lukas, Tuesday, 17 August 2021 23:20 (two years ago) link
Incitation to hatred in all its orange glory. Yet again. pic.twitter.com/P8ahE1gKVx— 🐉🏇 🐲Marie Błð 🇮🇪 🏇🐉 (@EalaEarendel) August 29, 2021
lol, lets live on marmalade on stale warburtons bread to own the Republic, because of course it is entirely Ireland's fault that the Westminster govt royally fucked them over!
― calzino, Monday, 30 August 2021 10:42 (two years ago) link
could see the temptation to dump even more things in the Liffey judging by some of the fashion faux pas and what is already in the river. I take it they still haven't been moved to clean it, is it a tradition that it is that filthy. I actually worked on the bridge at the time the digital clock the Time In The Slime was in there and can remember how impossible it was to read cos of the dirt that was already in the river. I was talking about the Hudson being cleaned from the early 70s after it had been notoriously filthy over the weekend and that had me thinking about the Thames getting cleaned at roughly the same time. So was thinking about the Liffey and the likelihood that it would ever be cleaned.Seemed that there was a move pretty much worldwide to recognise the importance of clean water in towns fro a webinar I attended a few months ago. I also remeber precautions needing to be taken by all the swimmers in the Liffey swim which I think was supposed to be an annual event. THat one had to take a shower as soon as you got out of the river. Also that the clock had to be moved at great expense
― Stevolende, Monday, 30 August 2021 12:42 (two years ago) link
also remember the pavement on that stretch of the O'Connel Bridge being a point where people would score quite conspicuously when i was first in town, possibly right up to the time taht the police cameras went up in 97.Definitely saw pickpockets right in front of me as I sold posters. But in those early years I was tehre you would see waves of people crossing the bridge and often staying pretty much in step as they crossed over to O'Connel st. & then you'd suddenly see a bunch of people going against the flow as they stopped to score. The Abrakebabra on Westmoreland st was also a notorious drug den or represented as such.
― Stevolende, Monday, 30 August 2021 12:55 (two years ago) link
So I hear ye are all antisemites now?
― Piedie Gimbel, Tuesday, 12 October 2021 07:47 (two years ago) link
To a point
― fix up luke shawp (darraghmac), Tuesday, 12 October 2021 07:48 (two years ago) link
The centrist slugs seem pretty sure they have the receipts
I mean, this is predictable. pic.twitter.com/Cnljmpbkez— Elvis Buñuelo (@Mr_Considerate) October 11, 2021
― Piedie Gimbel, Tuesday, 12 October 2021 07:51 (two years ago) link
so saying fuck the Brits is the new anti-Semitism?
these wankers should concentrate on their own fascists - there's enough of the fuckers. There are MI5 papers just released in the last 10-20 years on right-wing British MPs, peers, senior military figures etc that were involved in plots ("including espionage, sabotage, unlawful private attempts to broker peace deals between Germany and Britain") to install a pro-Hitler regime in London.
But beyond these are other files identified in the de-classified MI5 dossiers which have not been released to the National Archives. They relate to yet more aristocrats, MPs and military officers who worked on behalf of Germany during the war.
― calzino, Tuesday, 12 October 2021 08:28 (two years ago) link
the background to this is Sally Rooney refused to allow a certain publisher to publish her work in Israel, which has been twisted into "Sally Rooney refuses to let her works be translated into Hebrew"
― Daniel_Rf, Tuesday, 12 October 2021 09:46 (two years ago) link
anti-imperialism is good
― calzino, Tuesday, 12 October 2021 10:24 (two years ago) link
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FBfwwfeXoAUfTLK?format=jpg&name=900x900
now that's all clarified there won't be another word on the subject.
― calzino, Tuesday, 12 October 2021 13:52 (two years ago) link
up the roon'
― 《Myst1kOblivi0n》 (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 12 October 2021 19:32 (two years ago) link
Fifty year anniversary of Bloody Sunday:
https://www.theguardian.com/uk/gallery/2010/jun/10/bloodysunday-northernireland
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 28 January 2022 21:12 (two years ago) link
how long must we sing this song?
actually you can stop now thanks
― Bill Kristol Meth (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 28 January 2022 21:26 (two years ago) link
maybe you just stop posting, dickhead!
― calzino, Friday, 28 January 2022 21:30 (two years ago) link
suspect that was a U2 zing there calz
― Ár an broc a mhic (darraghmac), Friday, 28 January 2022 21:34 (two years ago) link
not that I'd expect it to have been made in eg a similar American civil rights context, for instance
― Ár an broc a mhic (darraghmac), Friday, 28 January 2022 21:36 (two years ago) link
exactly!
― calzino, Friday, 28 January 2022 21:37 (two years ago) link
and take that shite to ilm
My apologies, that was a lazy and ill-considered stupid drive-by post, not helpful or necessary
― Bill Kristol Meth (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 28 January 2022 22:15 (two years ago) link
― mardheamac (gyac), Friday, 28 January 2022 22:44 (two years ago) link
it still shocks me that a country where one of the top left-wing politicians consider Thatcher a good person and a victory for representation, is actually full of complete fucking idiots!
― calzino, Friday, 28 January 2022 22:55 (two years ago) link
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-60130486
― Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Saturday, 29 January 2022 01:47 (two years ago) link
Yuri filatov fish
― Ár an broc a mhic (darraghmac), Saturday, 29 January 2022 08:31 (two years ago) link
Ireland's first line of defense against the Russians is something else! #Russia #moscow #YaBollix pic.twitter.com/sCElZuea2R— Niall (@niall_staunton) January 27, 2022
― calzino, Saturday, 29 January 2022 08:54 (two years ago) link
POLL: Business Post/Red C(Jan 21-26, MoE 3%)Sinn Féin 33 (unchanged since Nov)Fine Gael 21 (-1)Fianna Fáil 15Green Party 6 (+1)Social Democrats 5Labour 4PBP-Solidarity 2Aontú 2Independents 11 https://t.co/Xb88kMTflI— Gavan Reilly (@gavreilly) January 29, 2022
― mardheamac (gyac), Saturday, 29 January 2022 21:40 (two years ago) link
I'm just glad we got the Vax before SF get in I guess
― Ár an broc a mhic (darraghmac), Saturday, 29 January 2022 21:44 (two years ago) link
Fuck that 2% for Aontu though. What is wrong with people?
― mardheamac (gyac), Saturday, 29 January 2022 21:45 (two years ago) link
I mean 2% tho
the beauty of not having only two sides is that you see the genuine crazy separate to those that will just cynically exploit em
― Ár an broc a mhic (darraghmac), Saturday, 29 January 2022 21:48 (two years ago) link
Crying laughing at this
He also recalled how his mother, Catherine Finnegan – known as Jean – visited the UK and spent a night in a hotel where, she was told, the Queen had once stayed.“She was so appalled that she slept on the floor all night, rather than risk sleeping on a bed that the Queen had slept on,” Pritchett wrote, adding she personally admired anyone who allowed their principles to take precedence over a comfortable bed.
― mardheamac (gyac), Thursday, 10 February 2022 20:48 (two years ago) link
man joe
― Ár an broc a mhic (darraghmac), Thursday, 10 February 2022 20:59 (two years ago) link
we elected the wrong Biden!
― rob, Thursday, 10 February 2022 20:59 (two years ago) link
His parents were Irish
I don't think they qualify as Irish even by American standards tbh. The "Bidens" were actually English, but no votes in that.
― Bastards of Fish (Tom D.), Thursday, 10 February 2022 21:52 (two years ago) link
did you also know he was the first half English/half German person with an Irish sounding surname in his family to to go into higher education?
― calzino, Thursday, 10 February 2022 22:28 (two years ago) link
I don't even feel as Irish as Biden does despite my dad immigrating from Kerry and my mum from County Meath but this an American thing.
― calzino, Thursday, 10 February 2022 23:13 (two years ago) link
George fall into the sea challenge
Yes, Donbas is majority Russian-speaking. On the same grounds, England has a right to re-occupy the Irish Republic.— George Monbiot (@GeorgeMonbiot) February 22, 2022
― mardheamac (gyac), Tuesday, 22 February 2022 09:19 (two years ago) link
George LOLbiot
― Blu Ray Davies (Tom D.), Tuesday, 22 February 2022 09:21 (two years ago) link
hes not wrong just a wee bit off right
― Ár an broc a mhic (darraghmac), Tuesday, 22 February 2022 09:55 (two years ago) link
do not
― mardheamac (gyac), Tuesday, 22 February 2022 09:58 (two years ago) link
Presumably he's saying: the UK has no right to re-occupy the Republic of Ireland.
I agree with that.
― the pinefox, Tuesday, 22 February 2022 10:38 (two years ago) link
The start of this thread was remarkably, unusually bad.
So then -- a bunch of Guinness-soaked louts or a flowering of native Celtic genius that makes the English look like a passel of Hooray Henrys and who wisely escaped the UK's clutches to help make America the brilliant place it is?
― the pinefox, Tuesday, 22 February 2022 10:40 (two years ago) link
It’s a totally stupid point given that aiui:- lots of people in Donbas consider themselves Russian proper and hold passports to that effect- “the Irish republic”? Really, George? It’s out of touch at best and pejorative at worst.- there’s six counties in the north east of the island that actually make a better argument for this but it doesn’t exactly place the UK in the best light to do so- as an Irish citizen, seeing all kinds of cunts now get outraged about shooting protestors and the like given that the UK government is actively trying to row back on “Bloody Sunday was bad”? Indescribable- why am I writing this in English, George?
― mardheamac (gyac), Tuesday, 22 February 2022 10:56 (two years ago) link
You missed out calling the UK England.
― Blu Ray Davies (Tom D.), Tuesday, 22 February 2022 10:58 (two years ago) link
lol right. Man’s a hack
― mardheamac (gyac), Tuesday, 22 February 2022 10:59 (two years ago) link
The start of this thread was remarkably, unusually bad._So then -- a bunch of Guinness-soaked louts or a flowering of native Celtic genius that makes the English look like a passel of Hooray Henrys and who wisely escaped the UK's clutches to help make America the brilliant place it is?_
― mardheamac (gyac), Tuesday, 22 February 2022 11:03 (two years ago) link
monbiot usually has his heart sort of in the right place but that is a crass (and crassly-phrased) comparison yes
― imago, Tuesday, 22 February 2022 11:08 (two years ago) link
A totally unrelated side note is that I spent some time in Dublin for the first time in eleven years a couple of weeks back. It was great, but it’s changed so much since I was last there and even longer when I lived there. I was really really impressed by the Luas, but Dublin bus has cut a load of bus routes and as someone who used the services constantly when I lived there, it was really noticeable. The airport bus service being cut is a total disgrace.I also stayed in the Gresham which I did for 3 reasons a) I got a really good deal on a night there b) central af, meaning I could stagger out of bed the next day and walk around a bit before staggering for the train home c) it tickled me a bit bc I remembered writing essays in Irish as a child where I said I stayed there. Hotel was pretty nice, would do again. It was lovely to see the Connolly statue, which I posted about in another thread. It’s neglected, though, which is a shame and apt considering his political successors, for example:https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DnVCl8PX4AABpkr?format=jpg
― mardheamac (gyac), Tuesday, 22 February 2022 11:11 (two years ago) link
The Gresham is where the Conroys stay the night in the story 'The Dead', rather than going back home in the snow, and thus where Gretta C tells Gabriel C about Michael Furey.
― the pinefox, Tuesday, 22 February 2022 11:13 (two years ago) link
So it is. Ty pinefox. There is a relevant picture here but I can’t post it itt.How did you come to be interested in Irish literature anyway?
― mardheamac (gyac), Tuesday, 22 February 2022 11:19 (two years ago) link
having a wilfully distorted understanding of everywhere else in the world is a defining feature of UK liberalism. Even with supposedly nominally left leaning libs like Monbiot. And he's a cunt!
― calzino, Tuesday, 22 February 2022 11:19 (two years ago) link
it goes beyond a clumsy ill considered analogy, he's just showing his real colours
― calzino, Tuesday, 22 February 2022 11:24 (two years ago) link
lol my point on monbiot, of whom i know nothing and care not to know any more, is as pinefox says and further again to pretty much your own point about "golly you could almost follow that back and come to some conclusions about the non-republic part"
― Ár an broc a mhic (darraghmac), Tuesday, 22 February 2022 12:31 (two years ago) link
Gyac: the short and fairly predictable answer is simply that I read Ulysses, around the time I first visited Ireland, and everything followed from the immense enthusiasm and fascination of this experience (the literary experience, but the geographical one was good and relevant too).
― the pinefox, Tuesday, 22 February 2022 20:55 (two years ago) link
I found myself thinking today about a United Ireland and to cut a long story short I mainly wondered what would happen to Unionism when it no longer had a Union to demand, but still had demographic power in the new Ireland.
The obvious answer is: a reassertion of Ulster as an identity (without 'British'), Northernness becoming a cultural element in the ROI in a new way, and Belfast as a power base to rival Dublin - which presumably no Dublin politician wants, which you would think make a Dublin politician now wary about the whole idea of reunification. (This will all have been said before; well especially the last part.)
The slightly less obvious thing that came to me is: there would be an alliance between the Conservatism of the DUP and UUP and eg: Fine Gael - Ulster and Southern forms of 'conservatism' would find a lot of common ground, if only for strategic reasons. Maybe Fianna Fail would then reposition as the opposition to this bloc?
The SDLP would presumably join with southern Labour, in a not very effective way (maybe in a coalition with FF?). But the power of Sinn Féin, by now, in the North would join the power it now has in the south and, I guess, compound it, and maybe there would be an all-Ireland plurality or majority for SF, in the short term - which I guess would be a kind of 'left populism' especially once the border question no longer existed?
― the pinefox, Wednesday, 23 February 2022 10:09 (two years ago) link
[first sentence should I think say: a Union to *defend*]
― the pinefox, Wednesday, 23 February 2022 10:10 (two years ago) link
I haven’t thought much about any of the issues you lay out to the point of having coherent replies to them and I will do so and will reply in full when I do (lucky you, having to read that avalanche of shit!)Something that has been on my mind a lot ito reunification is the issue of integrating Irish above the border with those below it. It might seem like a done deal and not worth considering, but there’s a lot of issues. For one thing, Dublin my whole life and certainly most of my parents’, has been actively distanced from the Irish in the north and their suffering. Although they are our citizens, they are not “us”. There are a number of reasons why this position is taken, not least it’s a responsibility that is…tricky…for Dublin when we can’t even care for people below the border. I was thinking about the shift in my views on this in my lifetime. It goes along with a move from being an unconsidered melt to considering things more fully (no shit), and basically my views have gone from “oh that’s all happened in the past/nothing to do with us” to “they are our citizens. We have a duty to them!” and obviously I feel a lot of shame about having held the former view. I don’t think it’s coincidental that a lot of people my age and younger (mainly the latter) are more pro-reunification, especially with them skewing more left at a cohort. Even basic stuff like social media can be hugely illuminating if you grew up far from the border and have no idea of what life was like. I was listening to a Twitter space a few weeks back operated by Nordies who were speaking about their hurt due to Irish in the south basically being ignorant of/dismissing their Irishness and in some cases even laughing at them. A young man was saying about his family crossing the border due to the 12th and overhearing a b&b owner referring to the family as “the black Irish”; he said this casual dismissal stuck with him as, after all, his parents had taken him south of the border out of concerns for their safety on the 12th.I also have come to befriend Nordies irl and hearing all this makes me feel ashamed of my own ignorance, and they have a point when they complain about us being (rightly) supportive of Palestine but outright ignorant of and dismissive of the situation faced by our own people on the same island.I’ve pretty much just typed this all out without stopping to read it back so sorry if incoherent or claggy reading. It’s interesting to talk about these things but it comes with a lot of discomfort due to personal complacency and the disregard shown by us as a nation IMO.
― mardheamac (gyac), Wednesday, 23 February 2022 10:22 (two years ago) link
all that, yes
also my habitual wariness of the full side of any story coming from just one perspective too tho, and carving out some level of justifiable position of none of any of us being born into a very idea ireland with very clear and agreed lines of history or the correct course of action to take
94 was the start of a lot of new perspectives and def agree that social media has led to another jump in perspective, and further again sf being all things to all men (for good and for ill) in the south means they will be the major political force on the island in our lifetimes (and i agree with pf that the nature of them rising on an professional-opposition basis means that this phase may well be shortlived depending on how quickly their anti-govt (any govt) vote becomes disillusioned.
FG/FF wont survive as a joint force in opposition i dont think, covid prob the best thing that could have happened to that pairing. they wont solve housing before the next GE so it will really be a question of will they do enough to swing back enough votes allied with what SF's ceiling actually is
ive moved away somewhat from the actual question, unity and what it means. agreed it means an ulster identity within an all-island nation, think that isnt that far off as is, think (informed by a good discussion about it all with a soft-nationalist catholic fella in his fifties at the weekend) that we in the south still- whether we go one way or the other about it- fetishize what it was or is to be a northern catholic, he spoke well and with great conviction about it being a part of his history, identity, experience but by far the larger part was normal ulster rural living which was no more different to what i recognise as my connacht rearing (minus the extraordinary personal parts) was to a youngfella raised strangely in farflung kerry
after unity, fg will be pulled a few ways but towards an ever bluer all island identity certainly seems likely, ff might still exist and pull quite a bit of the above softer northern nationalist vote, sf will have to govern and see how that actually goes for them but hey we've tolerated enough from the other lots til now, setting aside my misgivings as to what their actual attitude is towards the structures of the 26 county state whether they can consolidate and achieve in what youd presume would still have to be some form of coalition is an interesting question in itself
― Ár an broc a mhic (darraghmac), Wednesday, 23 February 2022 10:47 (two years ago) link
I am also thinking of the influence of legacy media and journalists towards the Republican movement and how much they have been involved in shoring up the attitude that I mention above. The Sunday Independent fired Eoghan Harris after it emerged that he had run an alt account on Twitter that was posting relentlessly attacking young republicans and nationalists and stuff like this:
So here’s the burner account for @Independent_ie columnist Eoghan Harris.Loathes Sinn Féin, constant attacks SocDems, defends himself from the burner (big LOL at that).If this is just one political columnist, how many others have burners since look how many are tagged by him? pic.twitter.com/2AEAiHEbKn— Seán O’Raghallaigh 🇮🇪🇻🇳🇵🇸 (@RaghallaighJ) May 6, 2021
This account sent me sexualised messages about whether Mary Lou McDonald “turned me on”, the size of my arse and called me a terrorist from the month I started at the Examiner. Since then, I’ve had to go to counselling and the guards. https://t.co/aueLtHkg80— aoife moore. (@aoifegracemoore) May 6, 2021
― mardheamac (gyac), Wednesday, 23 February 2022 10:47 (two years ago) link
now apologies for however that all came out tbh xp
― Ár an broc a mhic (darraghmac), Wednesday, 23 February 2022 10:49 (two years ago) link
that whole thing was mental ofc
sf otoh, imo above all parties at it (and they are to various degrees) have little standing to complain about burner accounts etc carrying out attacks and othery fuckery online
i will have to start taking more care to separate sf from the entirety of the nationalist side, the youth anti-govt side, thats a personal item i know needs working on (look twas acceptable shorthand in my formative years in my defence) because i am fully behind clearing the irish political decks and a unified ireland- like a lot of my generation it will take a lot of convincing that SF are anything like an ideal vehicle for it, regardless of the many faces they present in order to sell that
― Ár an broc a mhic (darraghmac), Wednesday, 23 February 2022 10:54 (two years ago) link
Also, and sorry for the text walls, but this is very interesting to think about.SF are obviously currently pulling in a lot of the nominal left vote since SPBP are too small/radical (subs pls check???) to appeal to voters in the bog (such as my parents lol). I think yeah the anti-establishment has a huge role in the SF polling and the continued role of the housing crisis. It’s pretty bad when you’ve got emigrants like myself actively put off returning home because of the difficulty in finding some place to live, yeah? SF will be in government in my lifetime, to huge resistance and hysteria on this side of the Irish Sea, and good luck to them. I think they are canny enough in the South, we spoke before about how Mary Lou is pretty adept and I’d be interested to see how she fares as Taoiseach.I take your point about the soft nationalist vote above the border however my view from talking to younger Nordies (and even the shift in my own views) is that Brexit has pushed a lot of people away from this position because the DUP and a vocal minority of the unionist vote have been pretty open about their views and it’s shocked a lot of people. The fact that the DUP are losing ground on their right to the TUV is not unnoticed either. I mean, fuck, I remember the DUP sweeping the assembly elections in 2003(?) and that was a shock then because they were the extremist party!I think this developing shift in the unionist vote is 100% stoked by their realisation that the writing is on the wall, both in terms of political direction and the demographics. There’s a soft unionist vote as much as there is a soft Republican one, and they’re the people we need to focus on. The hardliners will never be happy. Also, the census results are going to stir up a lot of shit.
― mardheamac (gyac), Wednesday, 23 February 2022 10:57 (two years ago) link
― mardheamac (gyac), Wednesday, 23 February 2022 10:59 (two years ago) link
yeah that's very true about the myth of soft unionism somewhat having its veil whipped away and will ofc have a reaction with that presumed "im actually not mad on SF but ..." northern vote
its an extraordinarily interesting time
i think mary lou has massive potential as a pragmatic taoiseach and a stable term for a majority SF who were able to focus on the issues of the day would be a reassuring thing for even diehard ABSF cohorts
which i might well be in tbh but at least im open to them being better than FG dripfeeding subsistence at market prices to the bare minimum of voters outside the D2 wealth engines and lord help us shoot me first rather than i ever wish for FG back labour and the SD's ofc have essentially retired from politics afaict, and idk if it makes me a hibernian melt or not to wish that they were a viable alternative to even influence a sf majority govt but notwithstanding strange bedfellows i think that that strand of leftism has a more virulent hatred of sf end than any grouping bar the fg bruton wing, for whom distaste is ofc worse than murderous rage
― Ár an broc a mhic (darraghmac), Wednesday, 23 February 2022 11:05 (two years ago) link
xp yeah absolutely granted as i say thats a thing i know ive to improve my own scattergun thoughts on
that i ever vote for FF back, should read
if they exist!
― Ár an broc a mhic (darraghmac), Wednesday, 23 February 2022 11:06 (two years ago) link
There's still plenty of Loyalist headbangers to deal with btw.
― Blu Ray Davies (Tom D.), Wednesday, 23 February 2022 11:07 (two years ago) link
i think we're both acknowledging that (and i mean explicitly as a "we've been well reminded that it's mainstream" way) above tbf tom?
― Ár an broc a mhic (darraghmac), Wednesday, 23 February 2022 11:09 (two years ago) link
SF running a republican island with a concerted UVF campaign against is a very likely scenario in the next fifteen years, right?
― Ár an broc a mhic (darraghmac), Wednesday, 23 February 2022 11:10 (two years ago) link
Lol yeah Irish Labour afaict have basically disavowed the Northern Question and ofc their time is coalition has decimated their standing as a left party, I couldn’t ever conceive of voting for them myself. I always bang on about Connolly but his writing addresses the need for Irish nationalism to be entwined with socialism as we would be under the boot of the landlords and well, we see how that turned out. Tl;dr, this fella’s Connolly strips:
pic.twitter.com/s5WbJrWg7n— Jason (@jaseomcn) October 6, 2021
― mardheamac (gyac), Wednesday, 23 February 2022 11:15 (two years ago) link
― mardheamac (gyac), Wednesday, 23 February 2022 11:17 (two years ago) link
SF in government, first day announce an enquiry into the Dublin/Monaghan bombing…oof…
― mardheamac (gyac), Wednesday, 23 February 2022 11:18 (two years ago) link
well i mean....youd have to
odds on fg/ff doing it in the next year to grab the marks like?
― Ár an broc a mhic (darraghmac), Wednesday, 23 February 2022 11:19 (two years ago) link
No chance, what was stopping them before? Micheaaaaaaaal is really not leaning on the FF being the Republican party at all.
― mardheamac (gyac), Wednesday, 23 February 2022 11:22 (two years ago) link
i think doherty is a bigger problem for sf than they realise. hes remarkably unconvincing in his brief and bolsters the "they arent ready" thoughts every time he opens his mouth
now tbh that group is small enough that it wont matter and he is prob grand to bring a majority of "fuck the current lot" with him either way.
o broin is interesting because i know little of his views on the national question (havent looked but) and he dresses like a 1917 cosplayer but hes one that convinces almost everyone bar the professionally unconvinceable because his vision for his brief is so strong and convincing, genuinely think if we voted for ministers hed be runaway candidate for the most pressing issue we have.
as a group i think irish voters have a large element of elasticity individually and as a running central cohort as a result of all the fuckery of the past ah lets say century, i think o broin might show that we are still open to merit convincing us ahead of many other factors nb this is not polled nor tested ofc
― Ár an broc a mhic (darraghmac), Wednesday, 23 February 2022 11:25 (two years ago) link
xp desperation rising over time.
I'm grateful to posters gyac and darraghmac for contributing their thoughts following my briefer post on a united Ireland.
My thinking very much has been: in Britain, I think the idea about 'resistance to a united Ireland' often somehow centres on Britain, as though London / England / Britain / et al is desperate to hang on to NI, and the ROI wants to take it away.
Whereas: This is probably the wrong way to look at it: the UK government stated in the 1990s that it had 'no strategic interest' in NI; most English people (outside eg Lancashire?) frankly don't know much about NI and are if anything embarrassed or troubled by it -- the truth is that the people in Britain who DO most have an investment in NI are ... Scots. Unionists / Loyalists / Rangers fans obviously, and, in a different way, their Celtic other also.
So the question really should be: does the ROI want NI? Is continued aspiration to unification (eg by FF) mainly a rhetorical pretence? (I don't think it's merely a pretence by southern SF.) And again, what would the demographic effects on the ROI be of a massive influx of ... Protestants, Unionists, however you want to define them - totally changing the psephology of the nation and also, as noted above, suddenly providing a massive cultural counterweight as Ulster becomes, in a newly concrete way, part of the culture of (the Republic of) Ireland again.
OTOH my feeling that there is a cultural gulf to be leapt might be overestimate given that since the Good Friday Agreement, large amounts of cross-border work and trade take place -- the very stuff threatened by the notorious 'Brexit return of a hard border'? Maybe all this has made the North-South difference less than I think?
Nonetheless I think it is true that 'assimilation' (if that's a fair word) of the 6 counties would be a big deal and cause a lot of ructions and 'interesting times'. Which Gyac and Darraghmac have illuminated with their more precise expertise.
― the pinefox, Wednesday, 23 February 2022 11:27 (two years ago) link
SF running a republican island with a concerted UVF campaign against is a very likely scenario in the next fifteen years, right?― Ár an broc a mhic (darraghmac), Wednesday, February 23, 2022
Yes I also wondered about something like this. The establishment of a political settlement (like NI itself) doesn't mean that everyone accepts it. (cf Remainers also!) It seems quite logical to imagine a rearguard loyalist campaign of sabotage even after reunification. But a political party (like the DUP) then running on a 'let's get go British' again platform would not seem to have much credibility.
― the pinefox, Wednesday, 23 February 2022 11:29 (two years ago) link
it would be endgame stuff but drag on forever, that new phase
― Ár an broc a mhic (darraghmac), Wednesday, 23 February 2022 11:30 (two years ago) link
i thought on what steps ulster (using the term consideredly) would need to
take? i dont want to suggest it's a "you're on your own here until" but an element of getting the house in order is certainly imo implicit
and likewise what further moves and norms and policies from south would need to happen in order for the most seamless possible transition to unified island to occur
i usually fail to get beyond "everything from 1994 til brexit, but longer" because the cross border policies initiatives and simply practical lived experience were imo working exactly as far as could be hoped.
SF rising to govt added to brexit as a provocation of the slow progress isnt ofc similar in character or anything but is nonetheless i think not a step back, but a step nonetheless that makes wary the population youd most want to be driving the question of what comes next
three generations of piece, a standalone ulster that finds out what works without london intervention, subvention, prevention, a slow melding of tourism roads agriconomy and eventually theyd pop in one day and never leave, like a scandalous widower/widow coupling and really arent we too old for all the fuss, have ye nothing better for doing than looking at us
― Ár an broc a mhic (darraghmac), Wednesday, 23 February 2022 11:38 (two years ago) link
Does your 'standalone ulster' imply actual independence for Ulster, as a temporary step between UK and united Ireland?
― the pinefox, Wednesday, 23 February 2022 11:52 (two years ago) link
I reflect now that this putative Neo-Loyalist movement would ultimately be much weaker than the IRA ever were. It would have limited local community support ('soft Unionists'? wouldn't support it), it would have no hinterland in Britain (except, again Rangers fans) as Republicanism has had in the ROI, it would have no realistic political goal (as Republicanism had and has), and it would have no great source of finance from 'our greater Ulster beyond the sea'. It would surely become extremely marginalised, to a much greater extent than the Republican movement in NI has ever been.
― the pinefox, Wednesday, 23 February 2022 11:57 (two years ago) link
I am responding purely to pf as just reading in between bits of work. Dmac alludes to it above but the south has always had a cohort who are either implicitly or explicitly “we can’t rule ourselves, should have left the Brits in charge” who will be put in an interesting position by extreme responses to unification. Can’t imagine John Bruton, for example, being comfortable seeing Irish flags burned, but there are certain columnists (I will not name them but if you know, you know) whose positions have been out of step with 99% of the Irish public and who have had endless space to spout their rhetoric for pay who might - I stress might - be more sympathetic to unionist concerns.
― mardheamac (gyac), Wednesday, 23 February 2022 12:02 (two years ago) link
yes it would be a true isolated group of extremists, very unlike an otherwise equivalent nationalist group in situ within a wider nationalist group notwithstanding the treaty looming large over that latter population
to the xp, i dont think theres a question of donegal for instance joining a formal splintered north as an entity politically. the smart play, if a unified political will were there, would imo be to rather downplay official structures and simply start to fund ulster initiatives, cross border initiatives, normalise the province as a shared space and see what better ways of living arise from such an approach
the three counties of ulster are liminal spaces politically and every impression i have of my old home county of donegal is that alienation from the current irish govt usuals has never been stronger felt. other posters on the boards would know better tbh but from this negative you could at least mine some good by appealing to an existing alternative that already functions in many practical ways i think.
sf in govt may have v different appeal to these counties, in any case
― Ár an broc a mhic (darraghmac), Wednesday, 23 February 2022 12:04 (two years ago) link
― Ár an broc a mhic (darraghmac), Wednesday, 23 February 2022 12:05 (two years ago) link
gyac: I think I've met one or two of those people! (ordinary people not columnists - let alone ... fifth columnists)
― the pinefox, Wednesday, 23 February 2022 12:06 (two years ago) link
I think it can’t be understated though that a militant loyalist movement would have support from the international far right, as they always have. When they searched Thomas Mair’s house, they found anti-Irish stuff in with the rest of the more obvious Nazi stuff. I wish it were more limited as you think pf, but the blatant supremacist of planters attracts a lot of the far right.
― mardheamac (gyac), Wednesday, 23 February 2022 12:07 (two years ago) link
they are a legitimate opinion ofc
just massively overrepresented as an opinion where such opinions (used to?) matter
― Ár an broc a mhic (darraghmac), Wednesday, 23 February 2022 12:07 (two years ago) link
xp again if you say understated and i say merelybtaken as a given i dont think we disagree!
― Ár an broc a mhic (darraghmac), Wednesday, 23 February 2022 12:08 (two years ago) link
we should prob meet somewhere around underreported/implicit
As per poster Darraghmac's comments about the difficulty of transition, etc etc -
I maintain the idea that the political power of Belfast, within the same state, would be difficult for Dublin to cope with (and / or vice versa), and one could posit a 'devolved administration' in Belfast all over again - NI being a ... proud province or ... statelet within the ROI as it has been within the UK?
Perhaps the 'standalone Ulster' is a step toward this or a step toward avoiding it?
Perhaps this would be an opportune time for Cork to demand more autonomy?
I also re-posit my one, I think, slightly original hypothesis here amid the better informed statements of others, namely a conservative coalition of southern conservatism (eg FG) and northern (ex-)unionists - as a 'shared repository of sensible conservative values' (why not even ... 'Christian values'? for 'we are of different traditions on this island, yes, but we come together now in a recognition of what is best in our two traditions and of what, being un-Irish, will not stand' -- the latter being ... socialism, for instance).
― the pinefox, Wednesday, 23 February 2022 12:09 (two years ago) link
The Irexit crowd are ofc very much in line with what I suggested above, Richard Chambers reported on them a few years back (search his tweets for Irexit as some of the threads are separate).
What we learned:✅ #irexit political movement contesting elections planned✅ "Quisling", "immigrants have no affinity or allegiance and we should demand it" in speeches.✅ Farage will be back and more meetings planned.✅ Media framed as the enemy of #irexit— Richard Chambers (@newschambers) February 3, 2018
✅ "Ireland is not a foreign country" #Irexit— Richard Chambers (@newschambers) February 3, 2018
― mardheamac (gyac), Wednesday, 23 February 2022 12:12 (two years ago) link
xp lol your last sentence, you need to read about the Mother and Child Scheme if you haven’t heard of it before.I don’t see a future back for the church in public life, though, regardless of an unlikely alliance around the idea.
― mardheamac (gyac), Wednesday, 23 February 2022 12:32 (two years ago) link
PF- its difficult to argue for any such approach as follows when the trend is to predict absolute certainty in selling any idea at the levels in question, but I'd say that it would need to be an approach towards not a standalone province, but a 9 county province in itself with the very formally-tied structures of state left as they are but more and more functions and resources funnelled into activities that were less controversial and generally agreeable- sports, tourism, regional transport links across border and suchlike.
if this had to be categorised as either of your options i suppose id be selling it as the standalone option with several asterisked caveats, and certainly id be telling any smaller conference room informally that it was ofc *hoped for* that a period of stabilised (this can ofc be read politically literal or as the equivalent cycling tutelage stage, either would be correct) existence without such constant reference to the region as six counties turned towards the UK question nor forced to think of itself as necessarily in transition towards dublin would lead to the question longer term being considered in a more peacable light and with concrete gains for many who could be sold on a future as ulster within the four provinces of ireland if the wider political situation were calmer.
unity delayed is ofc unity denied for many, and any move towards even the goal of unity is viewed as presumed aggression by others.
the belfast question has been raised as ive seen it a few times. did m bourke or an other of this thread suggest or post a suggestion that belfast should be considered as a candidate for the 32 county capital?
i know mcwilliams, and ive little use for him mind, has written in his usual fabulously casual "will this do?" style of the development of a new superdock between dublin and belfast for several reasons, one being the bringing about of a new focus on the question of the dublin/belfast relationship as a pair of cities in a relatively small economic zone as opposed to the usual historical balancing act. to his credit i guess such attention is welcome regardless of the merits or otherwise of his concepts.
regional capitals are the ideal and as you say it wouldnt/shouldnt/neednt stop at the north east but the idea of regional hubs was established practice in the mid 90s and its a pity that not even working from home has made it a more pressing political issue again, altho the health boards being reproposed and wfh and belfast demanding some status and dublin being a housing disaster would all seem to be a mounting suite of pressures that argue for exactly such an approach.
― Ár an broc a mhic (darraghmac), Wednesday, 23 February 2022 13:26 (two years ago) link
quick return to the catholic right as an all ireland force- it would imo take politicians and votes from all three of the major players in the republic and the actual breakdown of that would be fascinating to see, id guess it would hurt ff and sf more than fg tbh
― Ár an broc a mhic (darraghmac), Wednesday, 23 February 2022 13:34 (two years ago) link
I’m no expert™️ but wouldn’t the ulster goodwill be massively improved by, oh, say, having trains?Idk I’m going for a walk will think more on this
― mardheamac (gyac), Wednesday, 23 February 2022 13:48 (two years ago) link
donegal yeah for sure that kind of thing is what im getting at
― Ár an broc a mhic (darraghmac), Wednesday, 23 February 2022 13:50 (two years ago) link
if putin is allowed to do this in the ukraine, will johnson in london be looking at the four ports and be licking his lips?
― Ár an broc a mhic (darraghmac), Thursday, 24 February 2022 09:03 (two years ago) link
Don’t make me visualise that this dark morning pls
― mardheamac (gyac), Thursday, 24 February 2022 09:12 (two years ago) link
Thanks Darraghmac for your substantial post.
I had never heard talk of
a new superdock between dublin and belfast
This stuff tends to go into Flann O'Brien territory - if only, in my mind, because the early Flann c.1934 demanded a deep water harbour in Bettystown. Which would be a good proposal here except that, as we know, Bettystown is only 48km from Dublin and would hardly bring the spatial equality sought.
For the above reasons I was excited to actually see, or actually to see, Bettystown for the first time, in 2006; though more engaged still by Skerries.
― the pinefox, Thursday, 24 February 2022 09:21 (two years ago) link
i doubt very much that you couldnt dig into any one caper dreamt up by the same man that didnt have a lot more than a seed in either a white paper hed read or a meeting he had attended that week tbh
― Ár an broc a mhic (darraghmac), Thursday, 24 February 2022 09:32 (two years ago) link
Pf I sincerely think you might be the first and perhaps only person in history to be engaged by Skerries.
― mardheamac (gyac), Thursday, 24 February 2022 09:33 (two years ago) link
If Pyutin will go after Keev, who’s to say Cobh isn’t next Joe?
― mardheamac (gyac), Thursday, 24 February 2022 09:35 (two years ago) link
joe would be out with the red flag ten mins after joe knows his pitch
― Ár an broc a mhic (darraghmac), Thursday, 24 February 2022 09:46 (two years ago) link
We're still waiting for Boris' bridge from the Shankhill Road to Ibrox Park to get the go ahead.
― Blu Ray Davies (Tom D.), Thursday, 24 February 2022 10:49 (two years ago) link
alan kelly gone as labour leader
professional politician since school, professional shouter since, always had fuck-all time for him tbh and whatever labour needed after govt and collapse it was never him.
we wish him well in future endeavours
― Ár an broc a mhic (darraghmac), Wednesday, 2 March 2022 23:37 (two years ago) link
"Duncan Smith takes himself out of race for Labour leadership" might some of us a double-take.
― Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 3 March 2022 18:25 (two years ago) link
*give some of us
This is huge.
#AE22 First preference votes(All 18 constituencies reporting)🟢 SF 250,388 (29.0%)🟠 DUP 184,002 (21.3%)🟡 AP 116,681 (13.5%)🔵 UUP 96,390 (11.2%)🟩 SDLP 78,237 (9.1%)🟦 TUV 65,788 (7.6%)♻️ Green 16,433 (1.9%)🟢 Aontú 12,777 (1.5%)🟪 PBP 9,798 (1.1%)— Gavan Reilly (@gavreilly) May 6, 2022
― gyac, Friday, 6 May 2022 17:55 (one year ago) link
That's up (2%) on the last election's vote total, too.
― Andrew Farrell, Friday, 6 May 2022 18:14 (one year ago) link
and there it is
― mark s, Saturday, 7 May 2022 18:59 (one year ago) link
good luck with that petition of concern u speak of
― gyac, Saturday, 7 May 2022 19:08 (one year ago) link
Meanwhile
POLL: Sunday Independent/Ireland Thinks(May 6, MoE 3%)Sinn Féin 34 (+1 in four weeks)Fine Gael 23 (+1)Fianna Fáil 16 (-2)Soc Dems 4 (-2)Labour 4Greens 4 (+1)PBP-Solidarity 3 (+1)Aontú 3Inds/others 8 (-2) https://t.co/Zkok403wsH— Gavan Reilly (@gavreilly) May 7, 2022
― gyac, Saturday, 7 May 2022 19:30 (one year ago) link
This is true.
there's lots of heavy breathing about Sinn Fein, but none of it gives me any idea of what SF will do in power on either side of the border— jamie k (@jkbloodtreasure) May 7, 2022
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 8 May 2022 07:45 (one year ago) link
nobody cares about the opinions of English people, sorry now
― gyac, Sunday, 8 May 2022 09:17 (one year ago) link
Don't be sorry, will keep linking British opinions or otherwise if I like it.
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 8 May 2022 10:25 (one year ago) link
Whenever a woman is successful, this is is what they do. Absolutely sick and tired of this shite. pic.twitter.com/aw7ZA7uXmP— Maggie Moo Mar (@Midge1415) May 8, 2022
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 8 May 2022 12:48 (one year ago) link
Coverage of this latest electoral outcome has demonstrated something: large parts of NI, and also the BBC, are content to consider nationalists as politically invalid and not people who have a right to political participation.
A republican party wins by far the highest share of the vote. In a democracy this would have consequences. The actual consequences from Unionism and the BBC seem to be: we'll ignore these people and not conduct politics anymore, and mainly talk about why they are bad and should never be allowed to participate in society.
― the pinefox, Sunday, 8 May 2022 14:55 (one year ago) link
that is not too far from what happened in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Irish_general_election
― TWELVE Michelob stars?!? (seandalai), Sunday, 8 May 2022 14:58 (one year ago) link
Agreed.
― the pinefox, Sunday, 8 May 2022 14:59 (one year ago) link
R4's election coverage included interviewing two people whose parents got taken out by the RA during The Troubles. very impartial lads, and not at all inflammatory/unhelpful.
― calzino, Sunday, 8 May 2022 15:17 (one year ago) link
In so far as there's progress, the DUP has publicly said that the issue with supporting a national executive is the Northern Ireland Protocol rather than the concept of a Sinn Fein first minister, with some apparently accepting that "the people have spoken" - obviously I'd be wary of considering the DUP of operating in any kind of good faith, but it is noticeable that they're not throwing that particular toy out of the pram.
― Andrew Farrell, Sunday, 8 May 2022 15:31 (one year ago) link
that is not too far from what happened in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Irish_general_election🕸
― gyac, Sunday, 8 May 2022 16:27 (one year ago) link
Pretty soon this will all pass and the English media and public can go back to their default position of ignoring all those ka-rrrrrrazy people somewhere over there across the Irish Sea.
― Was Hitler a Hobbit? (Tom D.), Sunday, 8 May 2022 18:04 (one year ago) link
Andrew F: this seems true. So, we have a Brexit deal, which secured the current powerful UK government, which apparently means that the NI Assembly cannot exist.
I won't say that no-one pointed this out before (lots of people pointed out lots of bad things about Brexit all along), but it appears that the UK state now rests on a basic incoherence, which the current UK PM happily created and went along with and little of the British media (perhaps unlike the Irish) cared to mention.
Calzino: yes, I heard this report. It was extraordinary. Like being back in about 1987.
I started to wonder: if we're going to ban popular political parties from taking office because their historical associates have killed people, maybe we'll have to extend that to the Con Party and, come to think of it, the Labour Party. Not to mention the DUP, who were oddly not mentioned in this connection by Radio 4 and are now seemingly seen as responsible, sensible people.
― the pinefox, Sunday, 8 May 2022 22:16 (one year ago) link
Jerry: We only need to be lucky once! George: She's gotta be lucky every time, Jerry! Every time! https://t.co/YKnhX6dAst— brandon (@BrandyBeansH) May 10, 2022
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 10 May 2022 21:05 (one year ago) link
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FT7ctcTX0AAu_2w?format=jpg&name=smallas an avid player of the Irish Daily Millions lottery game I just thought I'd share this fantastic pic from their site, because it cracks me up and I felt like it was very important to make a record of it before it disappears.
― calzino, Sunday, 29 May 2022 13:35 (one year ago) link
Incredible
"I would strongly encourage the Irish tea sock..." pic.twitter.com/zQAuShsbzM— Adam Bienkov (@AdamBienkov) June 13, 2022
― gyac, Monday, 13 June 2022 19:25 (one year ago) link
ludicrous, everyone knows it’s pronounced tea sack
― (ʇɐɔ) o (cat), Monday, 13 June 2022 21:53 (one year ago) link
even i'm passable at it now, i'm told
― imago, Monday, 13 June 2022 22:03 (one year ago) link
As ever, it's so easy to pick up on the disdain for the very existence of Ireland as a separate nation from British politicians. I doubt that will ever change.
― Doodles Diamond (Tom D.), Tuesday, 14 June 2022 06:53 (one year ago) link
Huge if true🤯 pic.twitter.com/UWnLxxFoZU— Ógra Shinn Féin (@Ogra_SF) August 14, 2022
― calzino, Sunday, 14 August 2022 11:35 (one year ago) link
potato crop failing in england… well well well https://t.co/giunrKcCkv— caoimhe (@scorpiophobic) August 12, 2022
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 14 August 2022 13:08 (one year ago) link
https://www.potatonewstoday.com/2022/08/11/ifa-potato-crops-shutting-down-in-ireland-ongoing-drought-reducing-yields-in-europe/
― Being cheap is expensive (snoball), Sunday, 14 August 2022 13:13 (one year ago) link
(and that's the first result from Googling 'Ireland drought 2022')
― Being cheap is expensive (snoball), Sunday, 14 August 2022 13:14 (one year ago) link
I guess these posts make sense in the alternative reality where Ireland starved the UK by exporting their staple crop in a time of failure. Ofc even with this drought we are one of the world’s most food secure countries. We’ll be fine.
― Osama bin Chinese (gyac), Sunday, 14 August 2022 13:23 (one year ago) link
Yeah so anyway
Catholics outnumber Protestants in Northern Ireland for first time since its creation https://t.co/qw5L4dcMGS— Sky News (@SkyNews) September 22, 2022
The state of Northern Ireland was established with the intent of maintaining a pro-British Protestant majority as a counterweight to the newly independent and predominantly Catholic Irish state to the south.
― barry sito (gyac), Thursday, 22 September 2022 09:20 (one year ago) link
You would assume everyone would know that but you can never underestimate how little the English know or care about anything other than English history.
Which reminds me, I only found out a few days ago that Edward Carson was given a state funeral, the next non-royal to receive one after him as Churchill and there hasn't been another since.
Britain gave him a state funeral, which took place in Belfast at St Anne's Cathedral; he is still the only person to have been buried there. From a silver bowl, soil from each of the six counties of Northern Ireland was scattered on to his coffin, which had earlier been covered by the Union Flag, which however was removed during the service.
― Narada Michael Fagan (Tom D.), Thursday, 22 September 2022 09:38 (one year ago) link
was Churchill ffs
― Narada Michael Fagan (Tom D.), Thursday, 22 September 2022 09:40 (one year ago) link
Bono’s claims the IRA targeted the U2 frontman is ‘news to me’, says Gerry Adams https://t.co/FCrrOhxzpm— Independent.ie (@Independent_ie) October 25, 2022
Mr Adams added that while he’s an admirer of the work that Bono has done in highlighting issues of social injustice around the world, his “commentary on the conflict here was shrill, ill-informed and unhelpful”.“However, you weren’t on your own,” he said.“You echoed the Irish establishment line. It was the wrong line for decades. A failure of governance and the abandonment of responsibility to lead a process of peace and justice.“Thankfully that changed. But it took a long time. Despite this some of us got through it all. With or without you.”
“However, you weren’t on your own,” he said.
“You echoed the Irish establishment line. It was the wrong line for decades. A failure of governance and the abandonment of responsibility to lead a process of peace and justice.
“Thankfully that changed. But it took a long time. Despite this some of us got through it all. With or without you.”
― calzino, Wednesday, 26 October 2022 06:07 (one year ago) link
Class.
― Fronted by a bearded Phil Collins (Tom D.), Wednesday, 26 October 2022 07:40 (one year ago) link
That time Bono chewed out a fan for bringing a Sinn Féin sign that was actually a San Francisco sign pic.twitter.com/i7QMeo8w41— Dean Van Nguyen (@deanvannguyen) December 22, 2016
― calzino, Thursday, 3 November 2022 23:46 (one year ago) link
LOL what a tool
― Fronted by a bearded Phil Collins (Tom D.), Friday, 4 November 2022 08:25 (one year ago) link
I watched a bit of Graham Norton the other night with him on it. Twice Graham tried to get him to tell an amusing anecdote from his book, and both times he either could not or would not just face the audience and tell the story. He squirmed around trying to be chummy with Taylor Swift (who was visibly trying to keep her distance from him while still being polite) and then when he told the stories I thought, is that it? That's not a story at all! There's nothing there! Is the whole book like this? Not that I was going to buy it anyway, but if it had been great I might've borrowed it from someone.
― trishyb, Friday, 4 November 2022 09:39 (one year ago) link
Imagine being Irish and not being able to tell a good story. They should take your passport.
― after several days on “the milk,” (gyac), Friday, 4 November 2022 09:43 (one year ago) link
He could have told the story about the Orangemen chasing him through a posh suburban part of Dublin when he was a kid, yelling "get the Catholic!". for the sake of younger viewers, Bongo was one of the most world famous performing clowns of the 80's.
― calzino, Friday, 4 November 2022 09:43 (one year ago) link
read two chapters of his book at work and I liked it. the chapters on 'one' and 'with or without you' he seemed p self aware in the book or maybe that's an act. quite sweet but not cloying stuff about his wife.
― oscar bravo, Friday, 4 November 2022 10:36 (one year ago) link
then again there are a lot of days where Joshua Tree is my favourite album ever so I cut all of U2 a lot of slack.
― oscar bravo, Friday, 4 November 2022 10:37 (one year ago) link
Maybe he just needs to get someone else to go out and sell it for him.
― trishyb, Friday, 4 November 2022 10:46 (one year ago) link
don't worry Oscar I can beat you here for reading shit celeb biographies. My mum bought the Bob Geldof one in the 80's and I read it cover to cover, lol
― calzino, Friday, 4 November 2022 10:50 (one year ago) link
He's a very good talker and a relatively good writer, in a way that seems particular to some (not all; maybe just a minority) Irish people. Heaney was a relevant comparison.
His TV performance sounds odd though.
I would read the book but I suspect that somehow it will undermine and ironise the music, which is not what it needs.
The Sinn Francisco gig moment was dire. It's OK for Bono to say 'I do embarrassing things' but in that particular case he also attacked someone else who didn't deserve it.
― the pinefox, Friday, 4 November 2022 11:25 (one year ago) link
Ah yes, the Bob Geldof book. The Gideon Bible of late Eighties Irish homes.
― trishyb, Friday, 4 November 2022 11:26 (one year ago) link
I would imagine the Bono book is more intelligent and better written than most rock star autobiogs, he is still a tit though.
― Fronted by a bearded Phil Collins (Tom D.), Friday, 4 November 2022 11:28 (one year ago) link
It was written with more ties to intelligence.
― Chris L, Friday, 4 November 2022 11:37 (one year ago) link
Heaney was a relevant comparison.
― after several days on “the milk,” (gyac), Friday, 4 November 2022 11:51 (one year ago) link
BREAKING: Former British soldier David Holden (52) found guilty of manslaughter of Aidan McAnespie in Tyrone 34 years ago. He’s the first British veteran to be convicted of a historical offence in Northern Ireland since the 1998 Good Friday Agreement. pic.twitter.com/e5k5cGLn6C— David Blevins (@skydavidblevins) November 25, 2022
― after several days on “the milk,” (gyac), Friday, 25 November 2022 12:45 (one year ago) link
Liberals will tell you there's no invasion. You're not being replaced. Open your eyes! pic.twitter.com/I5g4kfcf2b— Joe (@JoePostingg) November 29, 2022
― after several days on “the milk,” (gyac), Wednesday, 30 November 2022 21:42 (one year ago) link
Happy birthday baby
Today is the 100th anniversary of the founding of the Irish Free State, the direct precursor to what is now known as (the Republic of) Ireland, and the date to which Ireland as an independent country is dated.Making it also 100 years since the UK lost ~30% of its territory.— Chris Barrett-Molloy (@cr15b) December 6, 2022
― bit high, bitch (gyac), Tuesday, 6 December 2022 11:28 (one year ago) link
Good.
― the pinefox, Tuesday, 6 December 2022 13:34 (one year ago) link
Is there a lot of stuff happening in Ireland to mark the occasion?
― Tim, Tuesday, 6 December 2022 16:04 (one year ago) link
Doubt it, I haven’t seen anything about it on the news though.
― bit high, bitch (gyac), Tuesday, 6 December 2022 16:35 (one year ago) link
No jig?
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 6 December 2022 16:37 (one year ago) link
There’s a lot Roy Keane can learn from fun-loving Brazilians who dance to express their emotions like *checks notes* Joao Bolsanaro. https://t.co/qNc2A5te9e pic.twitter.com/U90hZJLULP— Pádraig Mac Oscair (@PMacoscair) December 6, 2022
― bit high, bitch (gyac), Tuesday, 6 December 2022 16:49 (one year ago) link
Pinefox, I doubt you have ever seen this ad:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVudFaYSjq0A classic! But now there’s an article about how everyone is doing Joyce wrong that you might like: https://www.thejournal.ie/readme/christmas-ad-5952178-Dec2022/
The snow at the end of The Dead is the culmination of this paralysis as the entire Ireland becomes frozen stiff, unable to move. Joyce’s characters were not looking at the snowfall from the warm side of a double-glazed window, holding a hot chocolate with a dropeen of Baileys in it, delighted at the opportunity to cancel plans.
― bit high, bitch (gyac), Wednesday, 28 December 2022 09:43 (one year ago) link
I don't think I've ever seen that ad - is there really a connection to The Dead beyond "snow at Christmas time" or is that something the article writer put in to juice it a bit?
― Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 28 December 2022 13:14 (one year ago) link
No, everyone is making it up and only you can see it.
― bit high, bitch (gyac), Wednesday, 28 December 2022 13:38 (one year ago) link
Journalism of the year, this.
Both brands of Tayto are marketed by an anthropomorphic potato mascot named Mr Tayto, though the two differ noticeably in style. The Republic of Ireland Mr Tayto wears a red suit, a black hat and yellow pinstripe pants, whereas his Northern counterpart wears an entirely red suit and hat. There is also a marked difference in the facial features of the Northern Mr Tayto, who possesses a larger, rounder jaw, and tends to smile with his mouth open, while Mr Tayto (Republic) is more stoic in demeanour. Both creatures typically wear a blue tie.
― here you go, muttonchops Yaz (gyac), Wednesday, 8 February 2023 17:06 (one year ago) link
Tayto reunification when??
― G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Wednesday, 8 February 2023 17:07 (one year ago) link
Silby, it’s not even legal to sell south of the border Tayto outside Ireland! The Nordie Tayto are the ones with a license! We’ll get a reunified country before this!
― here you go, muttonchops Yaz (gyac), Wednesday, 8 February 2023 17:12 (one year ago) link
I've probably posted this before but it's a sick boast and I'm repetitive af. My mum was a childhood friend of Ray Coyle and she claims his family wanted to adopt her. One of her biggest regrets is it didn't happen and she ended up one of the many industrial school orphans!
― calzino, Wednesday, 8 February 2023 17:18 (one year ago) link
Just want to point out NI Tayto never made (and quickly deleted) a sad Mr Tayto to commemorate the death of a national treasure!https://0-i2--prod-irishmirror-ie-0.cdn.ampproject.org/ii/w820/s/i2-prod.irishmirror.ie/incoming/article20812609.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/0_EIjbkvQXUAAqXrn.jpg
― here you go, muttonchops Yaz (gyac), Wednesday, 8 February 2023 17:18 (one year ago) link
So the NI Mr Tayto isn't orange with a bowler hat?
― Maggot Bairn (Tom D.), Wednesday, 8 February 2023 17:47 (one year ago) link
I think we are all aware of that creature’s sympathies
― here you go, muttonchops Yaz (gyac), Wednesday, 8 February 2023 17:55 (one year ago) link
Tayto divided will never be at peace
― Saxophone Of Futility (Michael B), Thursday, 9 February 2023 12:40 (one year ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/fLTWA02.jpg
― conrad, Thursday, 9 February 2023 13:07 (one year ago) link
I was going to say that will have made Van Morrison happy but nothing makes him happy.
― Maggot Bairn (Tom D.), Thursday, 9 February 2023 13:10 (one year ago) link
There's an episode of Peppa Pig where the family go to a theme park called 'Potato City' - "where the magic of vegetables comes alive" - when they get there they are surprised to find it has a dinosaur park, and much is made of how incongruous this is. This episode was on one of the few kids DVDs we had in China, so I've seen it many times.Last year I was surprised to discover that this was a surprisingly accurate parody of Tayto Park, a real theme park in Ireland, sponsored by Tayto.
― Camaraderie at Arms Length, Thursday, 9 February 2023 13:13 (one year ago) link
It is quite accurate, if a little short of tigers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=955TOoGSe4w
― Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 9 February 2023 13:24 (one year ago) link
I’ve never been to Tayto Park but the one thing that was big about it was that they sold, for a time, a Tayto chocolate bar. They stopped selling these a few years back iirc, I have a picture of user Sharivari holding one of these bars from around 2012? https://metro.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/ay_109445356.jpg?quality=90&strip=all&zoom=1&resize=480%2C317Anyway, they were supposed to be that classic sweet-salty combo that you remember from shoving both into your face at childhood trips to the cinema and at birthday parties but they were strangely bland. However, someone on YouTube did a video for one you make at home which I’ve never tried but on the face of it seems like it’d be much better.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYBCTBwpUiYAlso, while googling this I found out that Orange Lodge Tayto also produces their own version. I doubt it’s any good though.https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0271/0955/6326/products/image_1000x1000.jpg?v=1653382002
― here you go, muttonchops Yaz (gyac), Thursday, 9 February 2023 13:26 (one year ago) link
i had reports during a meal out last night that tayto park is, in fact, surprisingly good for a park that on the face of it would be about tayto
― Ár an broc a mhic (darraghmac), Thursday, 9 February 2023 14:19 (one year ago) link
the Tayto bars were vile. Mainly cos of the quality of the chocolate though
the park is/was fine, but the zoo bit is depressing
― Number None, Thursday, 9 February 2023 18:13 (one year ago) link
Looking for Tayto Park? You are in the right place! We have rebranded to Emerald Park. Our theme park and zoo reopens in March 2023 under our new name.
― Being cheap is expensive (snoball), Thursday, 9 February 2023 18:19 (one year ago) link
Ominous for the best bit of the park (the free bag of Tayto when you leave)
― Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 9 February 2023 18:55 (one year ago) link
Maybe they'll give everyone a free emerald when they leave?
― Being cheap is expensive (snoball), Thursday, 9 February 2023 18:58 (one year ago) link
https://www.planetcandy.ie/image/cache/data/Mini%20Packs/oatfield-emerald-150g-planetcandy-550x550h.jpg
― Number None, Friday, 10 February 2023 10:21 (one year ago) link
My sister gets a load of those every Xmas from a friend of hers who lives in Ireland.
― Maggot Bairn (Tom D.), Friday, 10 February 2023 10:41 (one year ago) link
actually made in the UK these days 😬
― Number None, Friday, 10 February 2023 11:56 (one year ago) link
Emeralds are absolute shit these days, I think the original company sold to some other company years ago and they were terrible even when they were in Ireland. Used to be guaranteed pulling a tooth out as a child, good times.
― here you go, muttonchops Yaz (gyac), Friday, 10 February 2023 12:48 (one year ago) link
Yeah, the old Oatfield factory was in my hometown. Demolished in the early 2010s sometime
― Number None, Friday, 10 February 2023 15:10 (one year ago) link
I was at my mum's house earlier and she was going through old photos from the 50's + other stuff and showed me a letter from Ray Coyle, the Tayto crisps magnate, that he had sent to her just about a year before he died. It was thanking her for the Christmas card and saying it would be nice to have a meet up and talk about the good old days of their childhood in Kilbrew if she was ever returning to Ireland. It's funny and sad because she was almost adopted by his family, but ended up one of the industrial school orphans instead.
― calzino, Friday, 2 June 2023 18:04 (nine months ago) link
Mattie McGrath 🤦
― Number None, Wednesday, 28 June 2023 13:36 (nine months ago) link
Making the Healy-Raes look normal!
― half the population ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ (gyac), Wednesday, 28 June 2023 13:39 (nine months ago) link
“How could we build houses then and can’t build them now?... It’s f**king Thatcherism, Reaganism, the neoliberals and the trickle-down economy that Fianna Fáil and Fine Gael both bought into, [the idea] that the market will sort everything out. B***ocks.” https://t.co/mYdquIxhPQ— Shane Beatty 🎙️ (@ShaneBeattyNews) July 8, 2023
Promising.
― the pinefox, Monday, 10 July 2023 10:27 (eight months ago) link
pretty sure we are building houses at a pretty good rate historically at present, to a far higher standard than previously (building lobby still hasnt gotten over the regs introduced c. 2013 or so)
his sentiment may be welcome, granted
― Ár an broc a mhic (darraghmac), Monday, 10 July 2023 11:24 (eight months ago) link
thought this bump would be about the oireachtas committee proposal to make the glorious twelfth a holiday tbh
i guess to address both the general point and the specific point re are we building *enough* housing then the answer is certainly no but the (FF, let it be noted) historical solution of building large social housing estates -creating, say a new dublin 5, etc- isnt a solution that any of the parties with an interest in forming a govt are signed up to, because the ethos around such a step has changed utterly and delivery of new housing of any sort has become very much a planning and skills minefield, none of which any of the parties who might form the next government have any proposals for solving that actually look like they would work
id note that despite my antipathy for the shinners, o'broin is certainly the pick of td's with ideas you'd like to see at least attempted, but could any combo of SF and others remove height restrictions for dublin, for instance?
could any such combo penstroke through the planning, objection, margin and skills issues that currently block - on the face of it- the building of 75k units a year or whatever?
could they do so and remain electable if those units were built and inhabited? another conversation entirely I think- the answer to that one is "perhaps, if they hadnt managed to break everything else" which ofc ofc ofc is a hurdle which many will argue FF/FG have fallen at themselves enough times to maken it moot
― Ár an broc a mhic (darraghmac), Monday, 10 July 2023 11:34 (eight months ago) link
conclusion: move to vote in general support of meaney for president
― Ár an broc a mhic (darraghmac), Monday, 10 July 2023 11:36 (eight months ago) link
"pretty sure we are building houses at a pretty good rate historically at present"
Quite an interesting graph. Building rates are significantly lower than mainland Europe. Ireland is in a pattern with the UK.
Massive differences in the development of housing supply and house prices across advanced economies. Housing supply grew more strongly in EU countries than in the Anglosaxon world.Real house prices in Italy are today significantly lower than in 2013. pic.twitter.com/pBNtBlhzdU— Philipp Heimberger (@heimbergecon) July 16, 2023
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 16 July 2023 07:32 (eight months ago) link
President of Ireland speaks movingly on the 50th anniversary of the military coup in Chile.
El Presidente de Irlanda, Michael D. Higgins (@PresidentIRL), se suma a la conmemoración de los #50AñosdelGolpe y espera que la conversación por #DemocraciaSiempre llegue desde Chile a todos los continentes. Un abrazo y gracias por demostrar su compromiso con la democracia una… pic.twitter.com/g93q0UHOnT— Gabriel Boric Font (@GabrielBoric) September 9, 2023
Unthinkable from the UK head of state or government.
― the pinefox, Monday, 11 September 2023 12:30 (six months ago) link
Yes, especially considering Thatcher was friends with Pinochet and the bill to legalise murdering Irish civilians passed last week.
― ydkb (gyac), Monday, 11 September 2023 12:36 (six months ago) link
the UK LOTO being a member of the Trilateral Commission along with the (unfortunately still living) architect of the coup against Allende might have a different take.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 11 September 2023 13:16 (six months ago) link
I'm writing a thing at the mo and would appreciate any Irish ilxors perspectives: in the wake of various disparate cultural events - Lankum and the trad renaissance, Sinn Feinn's poll lead in the north and the republic, that Wolfe Tones crowd the other week, the rise of Blindboy, post-Rooney/Stinging Fly literary dominance, the cartoon saloon Irish trilogy (Kells, Song of the Sea, Wolfwalkers), the emergence of Evan Ferguson, doubtless other things I am unaware of... - would you say there had been some discernable ~*Irish vibe shift*~ in recent years, or is this just something I'm imagining? Is there any useful analysis of post-Tiger culture I should look at?
― Piedie Gimbel, Friday, 15 September 2023 07:43 (six months ago) link
Question partly born out of realisation that Lankum, Lisa O'Neill, John Francis Flynn and CMAT are probably all going to feature in the end of year album's list I'll have to submit imminently...
― Piedie Gimbel, Friday, 15 September 2023 08:32 (six months ago) link
that 90's Select "Irish mafia" piece that grouped CC, Graham Lineham, Sean Hughes, that prat from Divine Comedy (can't remember t'others) has just flashed through my memory.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 15 September 2023 09:17 (six months ago) link
i dont think there has been but its definitely worth examining
trad never went away but perhaps the groups occupying a lankum space didnt hit mainstream- not for me tbh to say that lankum are any bigger than any of the rest of them but for instance the likes of donal lunny and planxty one night/limited runs have never not filled the likes of the Olympia and trad has always been a fixture in local pubs as far as im concerned
youd need i guess to draw a line about trad vs "less irish" acts that have ben prominent and successful
the wolfe tones moment is forced imo, agains singing along with ra songs never went away and is being given cultural prominence in light of SF but imo is being linked rather than causal or really relevant in a groundswell kind of way
sinn fein lead in north and south is a long time coming and i guess you could have asked these questions at any stage over the past decade, if you see what im saying there!
blindboy meh, is he any more prominent *in this light* as any other young/got something to say voice that has come through any channel?
id have offered you ken early or richie sadlier in similar vein perhaps
i personally amnt necessarily the guy to ask again but, again, post rooney to me is a framing put on it but kevin barry and colm barrett were already well on the way to prominence going back several years and (like the bands point) id need to be clearer on whether you were really angling for a certain "type" of writer or writing or movement to carry the point
ferguson is big as are a number of our athletes i guess thats a resurgence but the rugby team have been world class for fifteen years and that lot hardly linked in to the general point you'd be making i guess!
― close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Friday, 15 September 2023 09:19 (six months ago) link
By David Cavanagh no less!
http://selectmagazinescans.monkeon.co.uk/showpage.php?file=wp-content/uploads/2012/04/untouch1.jpg
― Piedie Gimbel, Friday, 15 September 2023 09:20 (six months ago) link
before (?) that irish mafia even in comedy tho you had ed byrne and sean hughes and tommy tiernan and dylan moran all coming through
― close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Friday, 15 September 2023 09:23 (six months ago) link
Evan Ferguson deciding to play for England would have been hilarious tbh.
― Monthly Python (Tom D.), Friday, 15 September 2023 09:31 (six months ago) link
Was hoping for a DMac contribution - thanx. I wondered about adding Second Captains - again that's a long rise thing? I have not heard many of Ken's politics pods, should check out the new IRA one.
I suppose I like Blindboy cos he self-consciously theorises a lot of this stuff. His recent pod about heritage vs emergent forms, making the parallel with Flann O'Brien, felt v suggestive to me.
I am more of Barry boy than a Rooneyite ofc, but feel like she and Stinging Fly were a tipping point. And I guess the abortion vote feels key in terms of young women Irish writers claiming a voice?
The only post-Tiger stuff I have seen has been by the likes of Fintan O'T, talking about about the loss of *cultural aspiration* since the crash. Was chatting with the Lankum lads in Phibsboro on Monday and they suggested, with some pushing from me, that there was maybe a new confident voice - a certain cultural cringe had been lost?
― Piedie Gimbel, Friday, 15 September 2023 09:32 (six months ago) link
We discussed SF upthread if you scroll you’ll see the discussion there, I don’t think my views have changed much since then
― ydkb (gyac), Friday, 15 September 2023 09:58 (six months ago) link
And I guess the abortion vote feels key in terms of young women Irish writers claiming a voice?
― ydkb (gyac), Friday, 15 September 2023 09:59 (six months ago) link
I still think this conversation from here reflects most of my viewsThe Irish
― ydkb (gyac), Friday, 15 September 2023 10:04 (six months ago) link
Thanks gyac, apologies for any clumsy conflation/shorthand
― Piedie Gimbel, Friday, 15 September 2023 11:04 (six months ago) link
Catherine Corless & Mary Robinson both hugely important ito being very different people who are hugely influential on the present shape of the country. Michael D as well.Robinson was out there campaigning against the original 8th amendment and being shouted down on tv by cunts like this:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLWnoQjTNiwMichael D Higgins lost his Dáil seat because he opposed the 8th. Both sit well to the left of anyone we have ever elected Taoiseach.Catherine Corless deserves the highest honours this country has for her work uncovering the Tuam babies scandal, and for proving that official resistance through all the institutions is barely dimmed since the Mother and Baby days.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTqIhIf5KQE
― ydkb (gyac), Friday, 15 September 2023 11:18 (six months ago) link
Thanks again. Interested in this ancien regime resistance - in the electoral system, would a prospective SF govt be allowed to carry out any reforms to housing, tax structures etc? Obvs as Corbyn voters we saw the full force of the <deep state> unleashed from the military, MI5, the media etc at the very idea of him becoming Labour leader, let alone getting anywhere near power. Would a prospective SF govt be similarly sabotaged?
― Piedie Gimbel, Friday, 15 September 2023 11:40 (six months ago) link
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Official_Ireland
― ydkb (gyac), Friday, 15 September 2023 11:40 (six months ago) link
Irish Times probably the most important media piece in resistance to progress outside of certain limits constrained by capitalism.
I’ve just read Nigel Biggar’s British Empire apologism in the Irish Times and tbh laughter is probably the most appropriate response for now. This section in particular stands out. 1. It is called the Irish Literary *Revival* for a reason 2. What “renaissance of Irish language”? pic.twitter.com/NivUNzcw8q— Liam Hogan (@Limerick1914) March 10, 2021
I mean this racist whitewash of a murderous ethno-nationalist movement is still live on the @IrishTimes website. pic.twitter.com/q7XniWAnW0— Liam Hogan (@Limerick1914) August 8, 2019
Here is @IrishTimes journalist @rmcgreevy1301 casually offering to pay for @MaryLouMcDonald to take a selfie without makeup and asking whether she’s “been at the fake tan”. The Irish Times has been at it for years. pic.twitter.com/JcA1W3VcKX— Paddy Cosgrave (@paddycosgrave) October 12, 2022
Jennifer O’Connell: Michael D Higgins’s blunt refusal of an invitation to an ecumenical service of reflection and hope marking a centenary of partition and the formation of Northern Ireland is no act of healing https://t.co/ARSS5Nlm5g— The Irish Times (@IrishTimes) September 18, 2021
More than two-thirds of respondents back President’s decision not to attend NI centenary https://t.co/YT7hDfVNt3— The Irish Times (@IrishTimes) October 8, 2021
― ydkb (gyac), Friday, 15 September 2023 11:51 (six months ago) link
as part of the deep state I'll have no further comment other than the answer to "are ministers and their advisors allowed do what they like?" being "no and while we won't get any thanks for that ye should be on yr fucking knees giving it nonetheless" and that's under any govt formation i could mentions
the structures in place that are preventing the housing solutions advancing are baked deep into the citizenship, community, social, capital and political models of the state and the extent to which any govt could advance radical solutions is demonstrated by the fact that FF/FG together cant even achieve the little (FG) would want to happen even with the past masters of "get it done its popular and who'll stop us" (FF) on board
― close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Friday, 15 September 2023 12:15 (six months ago) link
Otm
― ydkb (gyac), Friday, 15 September 2023 12:19 (six months ago) link
obv thats a small point vs the entrenched resistance to all the laudable changes pushed through by the worthies gyac lists there
― close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Friday, 15 September 2023 12:25 (six months ago) link
Church way less powerful than it was ofc but I never underestimate the infrastructure and influence that still exists
― ydkb (gyac), Friday, 15 September 2023 12:31 (six months ago) link
the question as to how a sf majority govt would get on with the rank and file or leaders of its own justice dept, gardai or army is a very interesting one, and imo it flows in both directions
― close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Friday, 15 September 2023 12:52 (six months ago) link
this should go down as a classic https://t.co/a9cCToVOyg pic.twitter.com/Ty8DdDc9ed— conn (@carryymeout) September 22, 2023
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 22 September 2023 22:31 (six months ago) link
hello excuse me kind irlxors, i would like to bake an apple cake for one of your deoraí and was wondering -- fruit chunks in the cake or slices on the top? a touch of ginger & clove in the batter, or "mixed spice", or other? if i've no cow milk in, which should i substitute for the custard sauce: almond milk, coconut milk, mayonnaise?
― baths in the belfry (cat), Saturday, 7 October 2023 14:05 (five months ago) link
im not aware that its a particularly irish delicacy but just my opinion:
chunks in batter and slices atop
couldnt go wrong with any combo of the spices listed imo
i would not substitute the cows milk soz
― close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Saturday, 7 October 2023 14:28 (five months ago) link
the internet keeps assuring me that "irish apple cake" is a legitimate phenomenon (tho the particulars remain a matter of some controversy) and the general concept sounds like something the fella in question would enjoy, but idk. is there a more irisher dessert or dish that is likely to lighten the heart of an expat? i suppose i could ask him directly but i want it to be a surprise
― baths in the belfry (cat), Saturday, 7 October 2023 14:51 (five months ago) link
fair question
i think youre safe enough with this one im sure the internet can suggest a custard substitute my personal experience no help alas
― close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Saturday, 7 October 2023 15:56 (five months ago) link
If I think of that kind of thing, I think of apple tart or apple crumble, both big favourites in my house (not with me personally, not a fan, but 99% Irish people disagree). So something like this?https://www.rte.ie/lifestyle/recipes/2016/1110/830148-molly-makes-apple-crumble/
― I’m going to get fined for being right, again (gyac), Saturday, 7 October 2023 17:03 (five months ago) link
Oh here you go, maybe this is the kind of thing you mean?https://www.rte.ie/lifestyle/recipes/2023/0315/1363477-catherine-fulvios-irish-apple-cake-today/Apple tart here: https://www.rte.ie/lifestyle/recipes/2016/0318/775323-traditional-irish-apple-tart/
― I’m going to get fined for being right, again (gyac), Saturday, 7 October 2023 17:05 (five months ago) link
agree re apple tart being the thing
or a tea brack
― close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Saturday, 7 October 2023 18:38 (five months ago) link
oh what a gorgeous lot of choices, thank you both!!
― baths in the belfry (cat), Saturday, 7 October 2023 21:59 (five months ago) link
Exactly the kind of mentality I mean when I hate on the diaspora
“Ashamed to be irish”Look at the bioIt’s an American https://t.co/jKZ2BhpwLZ pic.twitter.com/Cr51AJ6DMq— $1000 crab (join CATU) (@punchedmonet_) October 15, 2023
― I’m going to get fined for being right, again (gyac), Monday, 16 October 2023 10:35 (five months ago) link
She gets mercilessly roasted in the replies.
― The First Time Ever I Saw Gervais (Tom D.), Monday, 16 October 2023 11:30 (five months ago) link
Oh I’ve seen
― I’m going to get fined for being right, again (gyac), Monday, 16 October 2023 11:47 (five months ago) link
muchas gracias y'all <3
i split the difference between tart & crumble with apple crumb bars and almond custard cream on the side
we're swimming in wonderfully sour little apples right now (it's fall, bears hongry, people gotta strip their fruit trees) so that was no problem but of course the rest devolved into the usual fiasco of "what there's no flour" "but i thought we had oats!" "where's the butter, okay, guess i'll use that gallon jug of coconut oil we bought at the start of the pandemic" etc. and ended up with an almond flour/puffed millet (why do we even have puffed millet) aberration.
but he was delighted and loved it and has implored me to make it again sometime! so i'm gonna chalk that up as another win for ireland, why not 🎉🇮🇪🎉
― baths in the belfry (cat), Tuesday, 24 October 2023 17:39 (five months ago) link
https://www.thephoenix.ie/article/israel-bloody-sunday-bono/
This story about the Israel propaganda machine totally misunderstanding how Bono is regarded at home is the closest to 'light relief' I've experienced in the escalating and unreal seeming (though unfortunately real) horrors unfolding on every tiny little screen that beeps and buzzes.
Bono looked emotional when dedicating U2 song ‘Pride’ to the victims of the massacre by Hamas at a music festival in Israel near the border with Gaza a fortnight ago. The IDF spin doctors must have assumed that getting a sympathetic Bono apparently on their side gave them an opening to a normally hostile audience in Ireland. Thus, the official IDF social media account shared a video of his comments before tweeting: “This is Israel’s Bloody Sunday.”
― plax (ico), Thursday, 26 October 2023 07:36 (five months ago) link
I know, the Bono thing was really badly researched. Have they missed the whole Zombie discourse?!
― I’m going to get fined for being right, again (gyac), Thursday, 26 October 2023 08:00 (five months ago) link
gauging the republic's national mood by reading Alec Baldwin tweets 🤡
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 26 October 2023 08:26 (five months ago) link
I missed the Zombie thing because I despise rugby, but presume it's bad because it's another band with no lived experience of The Troubles expressing similar unhelpful bulshit to what the grandstanding moron Bongo frequently did on stage.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 26 October 2023 08:31 (five months ago) link
zombie is just a spoooooky halloween song thats all
― plax (ico), Thursday, 26 October 2023 08:33 (five months ago) link
'im going to eat your brains' (guitar solo)
― plax (ico), Thursday, 26 October 2023 08:34 (five months ago) link
popular in blackrock
Iirc it was about the both sidesing of the Troubles when the lyrics literally reference the tanks of the British army, as though the two were equivalently resourced and supported institutionally…but plax might remember better
― I’m going to get fined for being right, again (gyac), Thursday, 26 October 2023 08:35 (five months ago) link
xp I resent that as a former blackrock resident (for a year)
― I’m going to get fined for being right, again (gyac), Thursday, 26 October 2023 08:38 (five months ago) link
i think it's about seals honking
― no gap tree for old men (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 26 October 2023 08:40 (five months ago) link
But yeah I guess I’m referring to partitionist thinking. I’m not sure I ever saw the “glorious” 7th & its effects on Irish in the north portrayed in something mainstream until Derry Girls did it. Like hey, the Irish in the north literally flee the place to avoid the supremacism, you’d think that might be a conversation point at some stage?!
― I’m going to get fined for being right, again (gyac), Thursday, 26 October 2023 08:41 (five months ago) link
Glorious 12th. I don’t know why I said 7th, except my cat bunted my phone as he wants to sit on my lap but I have coffee.
I don’t know how foreign viewers saw it but obviously if you know, you knowhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7meZZeYlloIt’s just the fellas that burn our flag and posters of politicians, nbd nbd nbd
― I’m going to get fined for being right, again (gyac), Thursday, 26 October 2023 08:44 (five months ago) link
I've never had any idea what Zombie, mainly because I've never been able to listen to more than three seconds of it, so I didn't realize it mentioned 1916.
― The First Time Ever I Saw Gervais (Tom D.), Thursday, 26 October 2023 08:51 (five months ago) link
funny how that clip ends with a snippet of the cranberries
― plax (ico), Thursday, 26 October 2023 09:04 (five months ago) link
https://theguardian.com/world/2023/oct/13/ireland-embrace-zombie-song-rugby-world-cup-stirs-debate-lyrics ofc it was rugby heads to blame
― I’m going to get fined for being right, again (gyac), Thursday, 26 October 2023 09:05 (five months ago) link
Whoever recorded this deserves a full reception at the Arás https://on.soundcloud.com/2j6upTruly one of our greatest heroes. See also: https://m.soundcloud.com/waalstepofficial/when-youre-in-irish-class-and-you-get-an-idea-ft-irish-aural-guy-full-version
― mojo dojo casas house (gyac), Monday, 30 October 2023 13:52 (four months ago) link
well lads
― Number None, Thursday, 23 November 2023 20:27 (four months ago) link
well
― close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Thursday, 23 November 2023 20:28 (four months ago) link
Not great is it
― mojo dojo casas house (gyac), Thursday, 23 November 2023 20:29 (four months ago) link
not great
― close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Thursday, 23 November 2023 20:32 (four months ago) link
been simmering a while
my mates wife followed home by a prominent far right activist in recent months and gardai action v limited
look i know its not in site character to request a baton charge but
― close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Thursday, 23 November 2023 20:33 (four months ago) link
lol. Mutual of mine on Twitter doxxed by fascists the other day. It’s quite a thing to see stuff like this and think, hmm maybe I don’t really know how safe things will be moving home 🤙🏻 feels great
― mojo dojo casas house (gyac), Thursday, 23 November 2023 20:38 (four months ago) link
it is tbh a v limited set pf action ito of proximity and occurrence
i think we'll wait to see how justice apparatus reacts to this first
i think covid was a marked lapse in how the state reacted to this shittier gurrier et al element
― close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Thursday, 23 November 2023 20:42 (four months ago) link
I don’t know that it is, they’ve been banging on the door an awful long time now
― mojo dojo casas house (gyac), Thursday, 23 November 2023 20:45 (four months ago) link
well there's the rise of yer anti-immigrant loopers but there's also the general bleak, hopeless vibes that have permeated the city since covid
― Number None, Thursday, 23 November 2023 20:48 (four months ago) link
im not _that_ sure tbf
― close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Thursday, 23 November 2023 20:51 (four months ago) link
I'm in temple bar was thinking to go out shortly and have a look
― plax (ico), Thursday, 23 November 2023 21:08 (four months ago) link
I suspect it will have none of the carnivalesque atmosphere of London 2011
― plax (ico), Thursday, 23 November 2023 21:09 (four months ago) link
Can't even begin to imagine how annoying liveline will be tomorrow
― plax (ico), Thursday, 23 November 2023 21:14 (four months ago) link
― mojo dojo casas house (gyac), Thursday, 23 November 2023 21:23 (four months ago) link
xp and not to fuckin as much as drop a line mind u
this better not be because of hitchcock
― close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Thursday, 23 November 2023 21:27 (four months ago) link
Plax will you finally be home at the same time as me is the important qalong with “Why voluntarily go to Temple Bar”
― mojo dojo casas house (gyac), Thursday, 23 November 2023 21:47 (four months ago) link
I'm temporarily living in temple bar
― plax (ico), Thursday, 23 November 2023 21:49 (four months ago) link
They just chased a lot of 'gurriers' past Dublin castle
― plax (ico), Thursday, 23 November 2023 21:52 (four months ago) link
sorry
― close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Thursday, 23 November 2023 21:58 (four months ago) link
sorry now
pic.twitter.com/sKzYwkoxQV— plax (@plax_ico) November 23, 2023
― plax (ico), Thursday, 23 November 2023 21:58 (four months ago) link
pic.twitter.com/ezTCqazfKz— plax (@plax_ico) November 23, 2023
― plax (ico), Thursday, 23 November 2023 21:59 (four months ago) link
why would the coincidental colocation of a half tan be the important q' here?
― close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Thursday, 23 November 2023 21:59 (four months ago) link
― plax (ico), Thursday, 23 November 2023 22:03 (four months ago) link
― mojo dojo casas house (gyac), Thursday, 23 November 2023 22:17 (four months ago) link
I literally don't know what either of you mean
― plax (ico), Thursday, 23 November 2023 22:19 (four months ago) link
― mojo dojo casas house (gyac), Thursday, 23 November 2023 22:20 (four months ago) link
The soundproofing in this flat is excellent.
Still hear sirens and helicopters everywhere. It took about five minutes after they got chased down Dame st for herds of tourists to reappear.
― plax (ico), Thursday, 23 November 2023 22:26 (four months ago) link
God.https://www.thejournal.ie/motorcyclist-hero-stops-school-stabbing-6231383-Nov2023/
― mojo dojo casas house (gyac), Thursday, 23 November 2023 23:45 (four months ago) link
I lived in Temple Bar myself - it wasn't a fun few weeks and that was without all of this shite - hope you're doing okay, Plax
― Andrew Farrell, Friday, 24 November 2023 08:13 (four months ago) link
My little cousin has just moved to Dublin (from Pune/India), got a job and living in a shared house. Must be awful seeing this shit.
Not directly in touch, sure she is fine but I will check in anyway.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 24 November 2023 10:14 (four months ago) link
34 arrests and 32 in court this morning
I've been wrong before in saying "surely the gardai have a plan and are closing the loop on these guys"- I've been saying that since gemma/john during lockdown and at every fringe event since
But one can hope this leads to a necessary escalation
― close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Friday, 24 November 2023 10:25 (four months ago) link
I’m sure Hermann and his gang of cunts will be left untouched while they round up the people doing the actual wrecking
― mojo dojo casas house (gyac), Friday, 24 November 2023 10:33 (four months ago) link
Liam Hogan always a best Irish Twitter follow but especially today
I wrote this about Conor McGregor seven years ago. https://t.co/Y3hYOgaiOJ pic.twitter.com/YEwvPkt6zY— Liam Hogan (@Limerick1914) November 24, 2023
― mojo dojo casas house (gyac), Friday, 24 November 2023 10:34 (four months ago) link
We’re not bullying people enough for trying to be American anymore, how are you talking about “illegal aliens” and “antifa” without shame go on say sidewalk hahaha— $1000 crab (join CATU) (@punchedmonet_) November 24, 2023
― mojo dojo casas house (gyac), Friday, 24 November 2023 11:51 (four months ago) link
second captains dropped haven't checked if open to all
― close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Friday, 24 November 2023 13:19 (four months ago) link
The soundproofing in my building is very good.
I went to look at the charred wreckage this morning with all the other rubberneckers. While the columnists and junior ministers will be bleating today, as with the anti-trans stuff there is a layer of civil society people that will have to put up with and manage this stuff and I felt bad for the council workers, service staff, teachers in the area that have to put up with this and get little help or sympathy. I'm skeptical that this event will prompt any genuine rethink among the great and good.
― plax (ico), Friday, 24 November 2023 13:27 (four months ago) link
I mean yeah I was on RTE all morning & all it was about was the value of the property damage
― mojo dojo casas house (gyac), Friday, 24 November 2023 13:45 (four months ago) link
https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2023/1124/1418256-rioting-dublin-city/I mean, Drew, every fucking leftist in the country was telling you that the fash were a problem and now you’re deciding it’s true because you were embarrassed internationally? Never overestimate how Irish politicians and office holders will act faster in response to shocked tweets from people they follow on Twitter than the concerns of their own constituents, I guess!
― mojo dojo casas house (gyac), Friday, 24 November 2023 13:46 (four months ago) link
I mean just as a start it might a good shout if the papers thought to revisit how they continue to cover a story about a creepy guy that kept showing up a school and bothering the staff there while roaring extremist slogans for the cameras with his deranged family. Just to pick one example that seems quite relevant among many.
― plax (ico), Friday, 24 November 2023 13:54 (four months ago) link
i'm going to Dublin tonight, right where the rioting was. Reckon it will kick off again this evening?
― stirmonster, Friday, 24 November 2023 14:11 (four months ago) link
i think theres a chance and tomorrow i think theres a bigger chance again that protests kick off
xps the library staff were left hanging in the wind, as were healthcare staff over covid, as were dail staff last month. the response has been very lax and if this makes things happen at last then great but the kid glove handling of active threats is a long time going on at this stage
― close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Friday, 24 November 2023 14:14 (four months ago) link
Was prompted by today's Second Captains to check out Conor McGregor's social media presence. Not going to lie, doesn't seem like a great guy.
― Piedie Gimbel, Friday, 24 November 2023 14:37 (four months ago) link
Thanks for the update.
― mojo dojo casas house (gyac), Friday, 24 November 2023 14:38 (four months ago) link
The brother-in-law is a prison officer, one of the ones ferrying some of them to court today - someone must've found a few pence down the back of the sofa, because they all made bail.
― Andrew Farrell, Friday, 24 November 2023 14:54 (four months ago) link
I mean how is that surprising, soaked in foreign money just like the eighth amendment supporters were and are
― mojo dojo casas house (gyac), Friday, 24 November 2023 14:57 (four months ago) link
Very good and thorough breakdown of Friday’s events.
― mojo dojo casas house (gyac), Saturday, 25 November 2023 19:58 (four months ago) link
How much of a role has covid/lockdown played in any of this, as a multiplier or accelerant? It seems to have had differing effects in different countries, but I can't tell how much a factor
― anvil, Thursday, 30 November 2023 08:58 (three months ago) link
a high level as far as dublin streets goes
― close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Thursday, 30 November 2023 09:54 (three months ago) link
a high level as far as social media cranks gaining significant followings and turning that into open organised defiance and action on the streets, hospitals, politicians homes, libraries etc
a high level as far as the proven probing and testing of the govts soft handling of the lunatic or dangerous fringes
― close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Thursday, 30 November 2023 10:12 (three months ago) link
I wonder if the establishment parties are hoping that this kind of thing will put people off voting SF in the next election. They're not exactly known as the party of law and order, after all.
― trishyb, Thursday, 30 November 2023 11:15 (three months ago) link
Kneecapping aside.
― Tom D has a right to defend himself (Tom D.), Thursday, 30 November 2023 11:25 (three months ago) link
ya I would have thought SF might have some ideas abt how 2 handle these types
― Ethinically Ambigaus (Bananaman Begins), Thursday, 30 November 2023 13:11 (three months ago) link
i think theres a curious split between the type of law and order party SF might be expected to be, and by whom
― close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Thursday, 30 November 2023 13:16 (three months ago) link
Pretty good but ultimately depressing piece about last month’s events.
Focusing on the poor performance of far right parties also elides the significant successes they have had in getting visible support from fellow travelers in the Dáil, like Mattie McGrath and Danny Healy Rae, or in electing sympathetic independents like Verona Murphy. There is a far right in parliament, just not one with a party label yet.
Because fascism appeals to an imagined past, admission to the far right typically entails some apologia for the many brutalities of the Irish state in the twentieth century, which were principally directed at non-conforming women, children, the working class, and queer people.
― mojo dojo casas house (gyac), Monday, 11 December 2023 22:29 (three months ago) link
kerry has long voted for a behaved exactly like a legal/social/political return to the worst elements of that past
the last election saw a lot get voted in on protest with nary a look at them- sf have actually been cleaning house to get rid of sitting tds and councillors- and im somewhat confident that some mentioned above wont get in next time but ofc that doesnt mean others from the far right dont get in instead
by and large the electorate has tended to reject the fringe to an extent that you wouldnt believe given the media and social media focus on them across referendum and election history
― close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Monday, 11 December 2023 23:21 (three months ago) link
I had one of them genetic heritage tests and sent my DNA sample on a mail journey to a lab in Texas, because I just wanted to know I wasn't British - because I've never felt it and at least a part of me got sent on a holiday.
the result was
85.3%Irish, Scottish, and Welsh
12.9%Scandinavian
1.8%East European
It's not really that interesting or significant, but still give me some amusement, I'm almost Irish American!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 11 December 2023 23:36 (three months ago) link
Scandinavian tho buck?
― close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Tuesday, 12 December 2023 01:01 (three months ago) link
kerry has long voted for a behaved exactly like a legal/social/political return to the worst elements of that pastthe last election saw a lot get voted in on protest with nary a look at them- sf have actually been cleaning house to get rid of sitting tds and councillors- and im somewhat confident that some mentioned above wont get in next time but ofc that doesnt mean others from the far right dont get in insteadby and large the electorate has tended to reject the fringe to an extent that you wouldnt believe given the media and social media focus on them across referendum and election history
― mojo dojo casas house (gyac), Tuesday, 12 December 2023 01:04 (three months ago) link
changing my name by deed poll to Tomas O'Dowd!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 12 December 2023 05:17 (three months ago) link
I've read that there's so little real difference between Irish, Scottish, Welsh and English DNA that it's kind of useless, or at least extremely difficuly, to separate them. My sister got 50% Scottish and 50% Irish, which seemed far too neat.
― Free Ass Ange (Tom D.), Tuesday, 12 December 2023 07:42 (three months ago) link
... she might have editorialised that though to take out the random nonsense, like Native American or whatever, that show up in these tests tbf.
― Free Ass Ange (Tom D.), Tuesday, 12 December 2023 07:47 (three months ago) link
i can see why youd tell yourself that but
― close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Tuesday, 12 December 2023 07:53 (three months ago) link
yeah, it's a load of bollix, really. My uncle reckoned there was an Indian connection to our family but I think the poor bugger was taking too much speed. In the sub results, it narrowed it down to "Cork, Kerry and Limerick" which is very accurate.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 12 December 2023 07:55 (three months ago) link
I don't know anything about these tests tbh. I don't know if you have to give your name or not because, if you do, I reckon they'd could get quite a bit of information from that alone. A bit like how mindreading acts and mediums work.
― Free Ass Ange (Tom D.), Tuesday, 12 December 2023 08:01 (three months ago) link
... your name and location. Maybe I'm being too cynical.
― Free Ass Ange (Tom D.), Tuesday, 12 December 2023 08:02 (three months ago) link
the one I used, your dna sample is given a number. You can supply your name but I just put Tom Jones because I'm not having some US company having my dna and government name
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 12 December 2023 08:04 (three months ago) link
I kind of believe it because I was expecting to be underwhelmed, and there is nothing more underwhelming than finding out you are 12.5% Scandi!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 12 December 2023 08:09 (three months ago) link
I think there might be a strong pool of neanderthal gene variants concentrated in Kerry, making it easier to identify
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 12 December 2023 08:23 (three months ago) link
I just put Tom Jones because I'm not having some US company having my dna and government name
That's explains the Welsh DNA then.
― Free Ass Ange (Tom D.), Tuesday, 12 December 2023 08:33 (three months ago) link
wouldn't the scandinavian bits have been left behind by yr old viking callers
― Mrs. Fifi Greywhiskers, P.S.C. (cat), Tuesday, 12 December 2023 08:39 (three months ago) link
yeah, they got about a bit
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 12 December 2023 08:42 (three months ago) link
"come on in, I *may* have some loot to plunder..."
The viking discourse in Ireland is very funny. Everybody loves them and is like "and they became just as Irish as ourselves!" as though they all spent a year moaning about school places and then started calling Liveline frequently.
― plax (ico), Tuesday, 12 December 2023 10:04 (three months ago) link
Fellas is the battle of Clontarf…bad?
― mojo dojo casas house (gyac), Tuesday, 12 December 2023 10:07 (three months ago) link
I should also point out that calz is from Jorvikshire, sorry, Yorkshire.
― Free Ass Ange (Tom D.), Tuesday, 12 December 2023 10:32 (three months ago) link
lol at the viking discourse
iirc they came in and just made a few suggestions around architecture and currency but otherwise fairly smooth integration?
― close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Tuesday, 12 December 2023 10:40 (three months ago) link
Also the contributors of red hair to the gene pool, which ofc is not a problem for those of us descended directly from the Tuatha de Dannan, Diarmuid Ua Duibhne and *checks notes* the Normans.
― mojo dojo casas house (gyac), Tuesday, 12 December 2023 10:56 (three months ago) link
the anatolians or do we not mentions that
― close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Tuesday, 12 December 2023 10:59 (three months ago) link
xxxpthere is really something badly wrong with the narrow gene pool of rural Yorkshire, in a much more fucked up way than Kerry. A good example is that horrible fucker Simon Armitage. I bet his family tree is the same bunch of Marsden cousins interbreeding since the doomsday book.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 12 December 2023 11:00 (three months ago) link
Alec Douglas-Home made this point very well when Harold Wilson called him out in parliament by his lordly title "14th earl of whatever" and he retorted "and you are the 14th Harold Wilson".
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 12 December 2023 11:04 (three months ago) link
― mojo dojo casas house (gyac), Tuesday, 12 December 2023 11:16 (three months ago) link
Srsly I didn’t realise there was an Anatolian influence though.
― mojo dojo casas house (gyac), Tuesday, 12 December 2023 11:17 (three months ago) link
this the exodus of farmers from Turkey? This has been mentioned on here before and my dad did look a bit like Omar Sharif
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 12 December 2023 11:24 (three months ago) link
i knew an ann o toole i wonder was she related
― close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Tuesday, 12 December 2023 11:47 (three months ago) link
almost certainly!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 12 December 2023 11:49 (three months ago) link
I blame the Milesians
― TWELVE Michelob stars?!? (seandalai), Tuesday, 12 December 2023 11:50 (three months ago) link
I blame the Fir Bolg
― mojo dojo casas house (gyac), Tuesday, 12 December 2023 11:51 (three months ago) link
look its all downhill from the formorians and thats a cnoic ill fuair bás on
― close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Tuesday, 12 December 2023 11:51 (three months ago) link
anyone rushing in to correct I'll intercept with "thats anatolian irish"
― close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Tuesday, 12 December 2023 11:52 (three months ago) link
this is good content
The 9th century Latin work Historia Brittonum (History of the Britons) says that Ireland was settled by three groups of people from the Iberian Peninsula. The first are the people of Partholón, who all die of plague. The second are the people of Nemed, who eventually return to Iberia. The last group are led by three sons of a warrior or soldier from Hispania (mīles Hispaniae), who sail to Ireland with thirty ships, each carrying thirty wives. They see a glass tower in the middle of the sea with men on top of it, but the men do not answer their calls. They set out to take the tower, but when they reach it, all but one of their ships are sunk by a great wave. Only one ship is saved, and its passengers are the ancestors of all the Irish.[3]
― TWELVE Michelob stars?!? (seandalai), Tuesday, 12 December 2023 11:52 (three months ago) link
― mojo dojo casas house (gyac), Tuesday, 12 December 2023 11:53 (three months ago) link
its passengers are the ancestors of all the Irish
― mojo dojo casas house (gyac), Tuesday, 12 December 2023 11:54 (three months ago) link
the interesting theory i saw espoused once was
if you fancy mixing legend with history with stats
what if niall of nine hostages is the antecedent of all the anatolian genetic strain, or some version of
― close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Tuesday, 12 December 2023 12:01 (three months ago) link
Mná na hÉireann must have been hostages to his sausage I guess
― mojo dojo casas house (gyac), Tuesday, 12 December 2023 12:08 (three months ago) link
Niall of the Nine Hostages, the incredibly fertile Irish warlord, is thought to have 3 million descendants worldwide today.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 12 December 2023 12:09 (three months ago) link
Genghis Khan had nothing on him
― mojo dojo casas house (gyac), Tuesday, 12 December 2023 12:19 (three months ago) link
Honestly amazing we have a patron saint with himself so busy dipping the wick
― mojo dojo casas house (gyac), Tuesday, 12 December 2023 12:20 (three months ago) link
An inch for every hostage
― plax (ico), Tuesday, 12 December 2023 12:27 (three months ago) link
id say he saw his share of four foot boxes hah?
― close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Tuesday, 12 December 2023 12:30 (three months ago) link
a foot for every beor
― mojo dojo casas house (gyac), Tuesday, 12 December 2023 12:32 (three months ago) link
There is a Smith guy on the DNA database of the lab I used who it states is such a close match that he is a first cousin. I thought bullshit I'm not related to any Smiths. But then I looked at his family tree on the website and saw my mum's name on there and various uncles. Then I remembered my auntie Joan had a kid in the UK which she gave up for adoption before moving back to Dublin and this is him. I can't properly access this part of their DNA service because it's paywalled and I'm not paying for membership. But it does prove their lab work is legit.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 12 December 2023 15:29 (three months ago) link
Gonna be a fun time to be Irish again
A former British soldier, known as Soldier F, will stand trial for two murders and five attempted murders on Bloody Sunday. https://t.co/l1nvEbPFZr— BBC News NI (@BBCNewsNI) December 14, 2023
― mojo dojo casas house (gyac), Thursday, 14 December 2023 12:22 (three months ago) link
NHS may struggle to cope with the upsurge in rage induced aneurysms
― Ethinically Ambigaus (Bananaman Begins), Thursday, 14 December 2023 12:25 (three months ago) link
🤞🏻🤞🏻🤞🏻
― mojo dojo casas house (gyac), Thursday, 14 December 2023 12:28 (three months ago) link
some say the wheels of justice turn slowly - this is way too fucking slow.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 14 December 2023 13:31 (three months ago) link
ford focus 2014
― close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Thursday, 14 December 2023 14:40 (three months ago) link
lol that was intended for my browser and not the add post box obv
congrats on your lottery win!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 14 December 2023 16:23 (three months ago) link
yeah I'm going mad with it altogether alright
― close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Thursday, 14 December 2023 16:28 (three months ago) link
there should be a feature on messaging apps and social media that lets you opt out of receiving voice notes. like people should not even be able to begin to record one to you if you’re not in the mood. this is a good idea and i stand by it— Beth McColl (@imbethmccoll) December 14, 2023
― mojo dojo casas house (gyac), Friday, 15 December 2023 00:04 (three months ago) link
as someone who detests talking on the phone, I love sending and receiving voice notes
bit more personality than a text, none of the awkwardness of a phone call
― Number None, Friday, 15 December 2023 09:21 (three months ago) link
Exactly
― mojo dojo casas house (gyac), Friday, 15 December 2023 09:41 (three months ago) link
it takes me like a week to listen to one
― plax (ico), Friday, 15 December 2023 11:32 (three months ago) link
yeah theyll sit there as a rule tbh
― close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Friday, 15 December 2023 11:33 (three months ago) link
That’s the biggest lie I ever heard Mr “I’m going to the random back of beyond will one of ye do a voice note for the car” Mac
― mojo dojo casas house (gyac), Friday, 15 December 2023 11:55 (three months ago) link
wtf no realnames
― close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Friday, 15 December 2023 13:56 (three months ago) link
Knick knack darraghmacListen to your phoneThe Mayo curseIs well known
― mojo dojo casas house (gyac), Friday, 15 December 2023 14:00 (three months ago) link
that last line probably scans using offaly vowels does it
― close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Friday, 15 December 2023 14:03 (three months ago) link
I’ll send you a voice note to confirm
― mojo dojo casas house (gyac), Friday, 15 December 2023 14:05 (three months ago) link
*searches for "report harassment" button*
― Andrew Farrell, Friday, 15 December 2023 16:39 (three months ago) link
so not to be a buzzkill but what survives of english folklore in those areas of the country amounts to 'don't go in the bog, don't talk to anyone you meet in the bog, take nothing you find in the bog' and in that one specific area of my life I am a firm traditionalist https://t.co/4SXKTM8PnC— Oliver Darkshire 🌈 (@deathbybadger) January 8, 2024
― mojo dojo casas house (gyac), Monday, 8 January 2024 14:28 (two months ago) link
having accidentally stepped onto a bog I don't advise it (alarming)
― Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Monday, 8 January 2024 15:30 (two months ago) link
They’re scary! I was watching that video and thinking of the time I was ten and stepped on what looked like solid ground, you honestly can’t tell what’s under the surface a lot of the time
― mojo dojo casas house (gyac), Monday, 8 January 2024 15:53 (two months ago) link
is st brigids day getting bigger
is it getting /weirder/
or did i just move local+ its a big anniversary
― close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Thursday, 1 February 2024 09:17 (one month ago) link
can't say I've noticed any additional pageantry myself
― Number None, Thursday, 1 February 2024 09:28 (one month ago) link
local phenomenon so
two bands are separately closing in on a well here, honest to god the cops are escortinf them, its got potential to be that monthy python sketch where the womens guild re-enacts the batgle of bosworth etc
― close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Thursday, 1 February 2024 12:23 (one month ago) link
"In her honour, a perpetual fire was kept burning at Kildare for centuries"
they got bored with the perpetual fire after a few centuries
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 1 February 2024 12:29 (one month ago) link
is st brigids day getting biggeris it getting /weirder/or did i just move local+ its a big anniversary
― Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Thursday, 1 February 2024 12:51 (one month ago) link
yes
this lot look like they might start nailing elves and pixies to them
― close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Thursday, 1 February 2024 13:37 (one month ago) link
Well you know my feelings about interfering with the little people
― Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Thursday, 1 February 2024 13:39 (one month ago) link
Bridget is the saint of abortion this is a REPEAL thing
― plax (ico), Thursday, 1 February 2024 14:49 (one month ago) link
as always i think you have hit the heart of it
brigid is a REMAINER
― close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Thursday, 1 February 2024 23:05 (one month ago) link
Ty
― plax (ico), Friday, 2 February 2024 17:07 (one month ago) link
That Jack and Alice programme on Channel 4 is not good, but it was cute to see Domhnall Gleeson pretending to do chemistry while quietly singing "Tá Teidí ag Rith."
― trishyb, Tuesday, 27 February 2024 13:44 (one month ago) link