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What I wanted to know:

Is wearing black and navy blue really such a bad combination?

Post your fashion questions here! Maybe someone will answer them, I dunno.

― jel -- (jel), Wednesday, 15 January 2003 18:45 (twenty-three years ago)

Is it really so horrible to wear banana clips in your hair to work? I mean, how can one professionally contain long, crazy hair? They are better than pony-tail holders, right?

As for Navy and Black, those were like the only two colors I ever wore for a couple of years at least. So, not so bad I think... Very deep, dark, and mysterious.

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Wednesday, 15 January 2003 18:52 (twenty-three years ago)

I think navy blue/black is fine, as long as it's not a navy blue dress with black shoes or somesuch.

How is one supposed to wear those rediculous and gloriously pointless mesh tops if one is female? With a camisole underneath? A vest? Pasties?

― , Wednesday, 15 January 2003 19:04 (twenty-three years ago)

black and navy are fine together, although in my meagre wardrobe black has to go with everything, so i may be slightly biased on this.
as for the mesh tops, anything goes now i think - bra / no bra. the no-bra look is best if you are famous and fabulously beautiful of course, and attending the oscars, not really suited for a quick trip to the shop for milk and bread.

― donna (donna), Wednesday, 15 January 2003 19:11 (twenty-three years ago)

I agree about the shoes. THat's taking it too far!

I dunno about the mesh tops. Confused by them myself. Lace is very pretty. But see-through makes it sexy I guess. Don't get how they're often paired up with suits in the work section of clothing stores. Against most dress code policies, naturally?

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Wednesday, 15 January 2003 19:13 (twenty-three years ago)

i would think so, though it may depend on the workplace...

i was wearing a navy shirt with black jeans yesterday. so my vote on black and navy is that it's fine, as i tend to gravitate toward dark/neutral colors and combinations thereof. but that's another biased opinion...

i thought black shoes went with almost everything...maybe i'm a bit simplistic in my fashion sense.

― JuliaA (j_bdules), Wednesday, 15 January 2003 19:19 (twenty-three years ago)

Whenever anything goes awry in workplace fashion, I blame it on Ally McB*al. 'Cuz fictional characters can't defend themselves and stuff.

― , Wednesday, 15 January 2003 20:05 (twenty-three years ago)

We should have a dress code for FAPs. (Waits for someone else to propose mesh tops...)

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Wednesday, 15 January 2003 21:33 (twenty-three years ago)

Mesh bottoms!

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 15 January 2003 21:34 (twenty-three years ago)

Of course, everyone will think "Hold on, we get to define what Martin wears!" And the dresscode = large overcoats plus balaclavas, or some such...

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Wednesday, 15 January 2003 21:55 (twenty-three years ago)

Chaps and Underoos!

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 15 January 2003 21:55 (twenty-three years ago)

I was told in a desktop publishing class that black and dark blue work poorly together because they exhaust the same receptors in the eyes (and for similar reasons I think beige and gray don't belong together). Still, this is a matter of personal choice and taste.

― j.lu (j.lu), Wednesday, 15 January 2003 21:59 (twenty-three years ago)

I am very anti-navy and black together but that's just for me. I'm anti-navy in general for some reason.

― teeny (teeny), Wednesday, 15 January 2003 22:08 (twenty-three years ago)

G-strings and doilies!

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 15 January 2003 22:08 (twenty-three years ago)

I'd say black and navy is bad too but that's because navy's a boring and useless color unless it's on sailors. Much better to just wear all black.

Can anyone tell me to find brightly colored or patterned stockings that aren't around $20 a pair?

― Maria (Maria), Wednesday, 15 January 2003 22:41 (twenty-three years ago)

tell me where, please

― Maria (Maria), Wednesday, 15 January 2003 22:41 (twenty-three years ago)

I have gotten some nice stripey tights at Target. Sometimes they come in good colors.

― teeny (teeny), Wednesday, 15 January 2003 22:51 (twenty-three years ago)

Oh also dance stores have good bright cheap tights.

― teeny (teeny), Wednesday, 15 January 2003 22:53 (twenty-three years ago)

I frequently wear black and navy blue together. But then again, as an ex-teenage goth whose mother tried desperately for years to get me to wear a colour that wasn't black... well, my mother snuck a lot of "Mother Black" into my wardrobe.

The best place to get cheap patterned tights is the same place to get cheap anything! At the market! I think the stripey ones are about £3 in Hoxton Market (which I still like better than Leather Lane Market.)

― kate, Wednesday, 15 January 2003 22:54 (twenty-three years ago)

Furry pants and shin-guards!

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 15 January 2003 22:57 (twenty-three years ago)

Here's some fun ones. Yahoo shopping is great for searches like this.

― teeny (teeny), Wednesday, 15 January 2003 22:57 (twenty-three years ago)

do pink and grey go together

― anthony easton (anthony), Wednesday, 15 January 2003 22:57 (twenty-three years ago)

A: Yes.

Jock straps and waders!

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 15 January 2003 22:59 (twenty-three years ago)

Dan - you should have your own TV show where you give fashion advice to the rich and famous, coupled with rude jokes! It'd be great!

― jel -- (jel), Wednesday, 15 January 2003 22:59 (twenty-three years ago)

THAT WOULD BE HEAVEN.

Bloomers and harnesses!

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 15 January 2003 23:01 (twenty-three years ago)

I mean, how can one professionally contain long, crazy hair?

I'm sorry to give you this answer, Sarah, and I don't support it at all, but it's generally believed that "long crazy hair" is inherently unprofessional and that people should cut it to a smart manageable length. (I'm so sorry.)

― nabisco (nabisco), Wednesday, 15 January 2003 23:04 (twenty-three years ago)

Not true, N; you can put it in a bun.

("Bum" would be a disasterously funny typo in the previous sentence.)

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 15 January 2003 23:06 (twenty-three years ago)

was it on ILM that i read "wearing all black is acceptable only for those devoid of any creativity whatsoever" [coarse paraphrase]?

where/who was it? i laughed many times at this.

― gygax!, Wednesday, 15 January 2003 23:07 (twenty-three years ago)

Smart black and trousers and a navy jacket would be a no no, I feel. And vice versa.

― N. (nickdastoor), Wednesday, 15 January 2003 23:45 (twenty-three years ago)

STOP TRYING TO TELL SMART BLACKS WHAT TO WEAR! We can dress ourselves!

(This is strictly to make up for missing the "we aeroplanes" typo on that other thread.)

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 15 January 2003 23:48 (twenty-three years ago)

I am terrible to smart blacks generally. It's something I need to work on. I should at least treat scruffy blacks with equal sartorial condescension.

― N. (nickdastoor), Thursday, 16 January 2003 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Can't wait for THIS thread to be misread.

it's generally believed that "long crazy hair" is inherently unprofessional and that people should cut it to a smart manageable length. (I'm so sorry.)

You're mean.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 16 January 2003 02:16 (twenty-three years ago)

Sarah, secure a twist with a pencil.

― That Girl (thatgirl), Thursday, 16 January 2003 02:17 (twenty-three years ago)

Maybe someone will answer them, I dunno.

I don't know why, but that was a really cute sentence.

― , Thursday, 16 January 2003 02:20 (twenty-three years ago)

as for the mesh tops, anything goes now i think - bra / no bra. the no-bra look is best if you are famous and fabulously beautiful of course, and attending the oscars, not really suited for a quick trip to the shop for milk and bread.

That's pretty much how I dress to go get milk and bread, you know. I've earned the title of Soccer Stripper for what I decide is acceptable "Oh, I'm just slacking about" clothing.

Black and blue go together fine, though I don't usually wear navy blue so much.

And I wear banana clips in my hair but I also am not necessarily going for a super polished look anyway, especially since I started spending half the work week sporting huge Shania Twain curls. Honestly, I'm basically Office Stripper too.

― Ally (mlescaut), Thursday, 16 January 2003 05:06 (twenty-three years ago)

I need fashion advice desperately.

I am rapidly running out of clothing options. Soon, I'll have to start going naked. They just don't make clothes for women my shape/size. I have this huge stomach but I am virtually assless and hipless and thighless. Shirts are easy enough to find at a plus-size store, so I'm covered there... But jeans/pants are impossible. At Lane Bryant (best plus-size store ever), if I can get the jeans/slacks to fit around my waist, I literally look like I'm wearing a large tent. I guess that they assume if you shop at Lane Bryant that you must be bootylicious. I am bootyless. So that's just not an option. All the other plus-size stores are the same. And non plus-size stores don't sell them in my size. Which is a shame, because generally places like Old Navy and Express have jeans much more suited to my shape.

Someone suggested maternity jeans, but that would be more humiliating than I could bear.
And I don't want to be doomed to a life of sweatpants.

― Melissa W (Melissa W), Thursday, 16 January 2003 05:24 (twenty-three years ago)

This may seem like an odd suggestion but how about men's jeans? We blokes tend to put on most of our fat around the stomach rather than the backside..

― electric sound of jim (electricsound), Thursday, 16 January 2003 05:26 (twenty-three years ago)

Fashion
Advice
Thread?

― Leee (Leee), Thursday, 16 January 2003 06:24 (twenty-three years ago)

i am wearing black and navy blue simulatneously right now, and rainy said i look alright.

― di smith (lucylurex), Thursday, 16 January 2003 07:21 (twenty-three years ago)

I did not say that Di looked "alright" I said she looked "brilliant".

― rainy (rainy), Thursday, 16 January 2003 07:33 (twenty-three years ago)

haha "simulatneously"!!!!

― rainy (rainy), Thursday, 16 January 2003 07:40 (twenty-three years ago)

dan rules this thread.

gaiters = fashion item of 2003. you mark my words.

― rener (rener), Thursday, 16 January 2003 09:46 (twenty-three years ago)

I don't know what a 'banana clip' is, but as far as I'm concerned dress codes don't extend to hair (apart from maybe banning bright blue dreadlocks or something), and I will wear mine however is most practical. There are far too many restrictions on how women 'should' dress as it is.

― Archel (Archel), Thursday, 16 January 2003 09:51 (twenty-three years ago)

I agree Mel, try mens jeans. Especially hipsters as they might fit under the tummy. Or learn to sew so you can alter stuff!

― toraneko (toraneko), Thursday, 16 January 2003 09:58 (twenty-three years ago)

gaiters = fashion item of 2003. you mark my words.

Agreed. Gaiters are legitimate. They were all over the Winter 2002 runway shows and in the editorials. Dev Aoki has been running around in the quilted Chanel ones. It's a good look.

/fashion police, arrest this woman

― felicity (felicity), Thursday, 16 January 2003 18:24 (twenty-three years ago)

the other day i scrunchied my fringe up in the middle like shinobi, or an onion. ppl laughed. should i be deterred ladies?

― zemko (bob), Thursday, 16 January 2003 18:39 (twenty-three years ago)

Hmmm... gaiters.. Trouble is, it's gonna be time for spring clothing soon, and won't they be out of style by the time fall 2003 rolls around ? I wish I had a pair, still. it's cold in New England.

― daria g, Friday, 17 January 2003 03:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I wish it wasn't so difficult to be stylish.

― Melissa W (Melissa W), Friday, 17 January 2003 10:32 (twenty-three years ago)

I think navy and black is a bit iffy but I have navy cords which I often wear with black coat and polo neck and I think it probably looks stupid but because I'm colourblind the cords keep looking black. I think they're navy but fuck knows really.

― Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 17 January 2003 10:35 (twenty-three years ago)

I've always thought it was a bit odd that navy & black should be deemed a fashion crime. I mean, how bad can two inoffensive dark colours really be? Now, pink and orange...

― Archel (Archel), Friday, 17 January 2003 10:40 (twenty-three years ago)

white and yellow.

― Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 17 January 2003 10:45 (twenty-three years ago)

Yeah, noone wants to look like a fried egg.

― Archel (Archel), Friday, 17 January 2003 11:04 (twenty-three years ago)

Worst comeback evah: sweatpants.

― nathalie (nathalie), Friday, 17 January 2003 11:47 (twenty-three years ago)

White jumper, red belt, yellow flares = could work?

― jel -- (jel), Friday, 17 January 2003 11:51 (twenty-three years ago)

anyone who rocks that look and can carry it off gets a cookie. hell, i'd do it. i have a red belt, but i need some goddamned yellow flares.

― geeta (geeta), Friday, 17 January 2003 11:56 (twenty-three years ago)

would look like scandanavian ronald macdonald spinoff

― minna (minna), Friday, 17 January 2003 12:30 (twenty-three years ago)

only if you paint your face like a clown, too.

i'd dress up like ronald mcdonald for a fiver.

― geeta (geeta), Friday, 17 January 2003 12:43 (twenty-three years ago)

I'd give you that fiver to do it. And go into a mcdonalds.

― Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 17 January 2003 13:03 (twenty-three years ago)

hah! ro, i don't know if i could manage the going-into-mcdonald's part also unless i was on acid

i raise you to a tenner

― geeta (geeta), Friday, 17 January 2003 13:07 (twenty-three years ago)

i suddenly want this to really happen, can we have a whole new dare thread with pictures and everything?

― minna (minna), Friday, 17 January 2003 13:08 (twenty-three years ago)

I'll give you a fiver, and a happy meal, at a time when the toy on offer is one you really want.

― Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 17 January 2003 13:11 (twenty-three years ago)

Pasties and opera capes!

(Have we had the obligatory pasties thread yet?)

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 17 January 2003 15:41 (twenty-three years ago)

Furry pants and shin-guards!

this sounds pretty sexy, actually.

― felicity (felicity), Friday, 17 January 2003 21:08 (twenty-three years ago)

Long hair can be put up, rather than cut. The person I am "seeing" does this all the time. I used to assume that it took her forever to get her hair wrapped up in such an orderly fashion, but then I saw her go from having her hair down, to having it up, in about two minutes.

― Rockist Scientist, Friday, 17 January 2003 21:11 (twenty-three years ago)

I am wearing brown trousers, a shirt that has a dark sandyish sort of color, and a mustard yellow tie. I look like an old banana.

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 17 January 2003 21:16 (twenty-three years ago)

as long as you don't smell like one. typing that, i just realized there are a myriad of other responses, but i will refrain.

― JuliaA (j_bdules), Friday, 17 January 2003 21:45 (twenty-three years ago)

Orange you glad I didn't say banana?

― Rockist Scientist, Friday, 17 January 2003 21:58 (twenty-three years ago)

fashion advice alert! today a bogan told me off for my clothes! i am wearing a pastel blue dress over black tights which have big silver dots all over them (spectra the lovely gave them to me), and this bogan chick walked up to me and said "not a good look!" how does one reply to that?

― di smith (lucylurex), Saturday, 18 January 2003 09:04 (twenty-three years ago)

With a stunned silence?

― toraneko (toraneko), Saturday, 18 January 2003 14:16 (twenty-three years ago)

what is this word 'bogan'? Coming from the planet Bogus?

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Saturday, 18 January 2003 15:05 (twenty-three years ago)

A swift kick to the crotch. As they lie in the gutter puking and crying, you sneer, "Your look isn't so hot, either!" and then piss on them.

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Saturday, 18 January 2003 19:40 (twenty-three years ago)

toraneko that is exactly what i did. nobody has criticised my apparel since high school, so i really was shocked, and i least of all expected to be made fun of by someone who obviously doesn't care all that much about current fashion either. i kind of like bogans, because my sister was/is one... martin, bogans: think mullet. on both genders.

― di smith (lucylurex), Sunday, 19 January 2003 09:51 (twenty-three years ago)

don't listen to the hataz di! that outfit sounds awesome!

― geeta, Sunday, 19 January 2003 10:00 (twenty-three years ago)

fanks geeta.

― di smith (lucylurex), Sunday, 19 January 2003 10:07 (twenty-three years ago)

black tights with big silver dots on them are way cool
i can't believe that bogan dissed you

― liz p. (lizjoydiv), Monday, 20 January 2003 09:14 (twenty-three years ago)

pink and orange are common in india, in fact diana veerland called pink the navy blue of india.

― anthony easton (anthony), Monday, 20 January 2003 09:23 (twenty-three years ago)

last year i thought pink was the new black but now i'm back to black
actually lately i've been really into wearing cool socks with flat pointy toed shoes and jeans

― liz p. (lizjoydiv), Monday, 20 January 2003 09:25 (twenty-three years ago)

three months pass...

Can anyone tell me to find brightly colored or patterned stockings that aren't around $20 a pair?

try the sock man on st. marks when in town

what are gaiters?

how does one wear pants + a skirt? (us edition) i like the look -- but the only combo i can think of at the moment is a short pleated navy skirt over light blue adidas track pants -- inspired by the gym under school uniform of my former junior high school students

― Mary (Mary), Sunday, 27 April 2003 06:43 (twenty-three years ago)

A question about short sleeve shirts. Should the sleeves come down to your elbows? I mean I always think they are too big if the sleeve is sitting round my elbows. What's up with that??

― jel -- (jel), Sunday, 27 April 2003 08:09 (twenty-three years ago)

The sleeve should intercept your biceps(?) Maybe half way between the shoulder and elbow, or a little higher.

― Mary (Mary), Sunday, 27 April 2003 08:16 (twenty-three years ago)

oh cool! That's the look I've been sporting! Though, you are right to question my biceps :)

― jel -- (jel), Sunday, 27 April 2003 08:19 (twenty-three years ago)

ha ha it was not your biceps i was questioning, rather my own sleeve length descriptor

― Mary (Mary), Sunday, 27 April 2003 08:32 (twenty-three years ago)

Mary, I see girls wearing hippie-patterened dresses (you know, like flower patterns or something), about mid-thigh length, over bootcut jeans all the time. I think the key to that is to make sure the jeans are v. tight on hips/rear.

― Ally (mlescaut), Sunday, 27 April 2003 17:06 (twenty-three years ago)

what are gaiters?

Gaiters are worn in sports like skiing, hunting and riding. Also, they used to be part of a lot of military uniforms. gaiters:

http://www.kamakazi.com/docsplace/coiltek/snkgrdz_small.jpghttp://www.kamakazi.com/docsplace/coiltek/snkgrdz_small.jpg

Chanel gaiters:

http://www.bostonfashion.com/chanel2002/chanel5.JPG

http://www.elle.com/fashion/runwaycollections/standalone/2002-HC-SS/city_highlights/Paris/Chanel/img/img1_L.jpg

― felicity (felicity), Sunday, 27 April 2003 17:37 (twenty-three years ago)

Memo to Di, from upthread: if a bogan disses your look, the obvious answer is 'what do you know anyway, you're a bogan?' Variants of this have always worked for me.

― suzy (suzy), Sunday, 27 April 2003 18:17 (twenty-three years ago)

I don't know about those gaiters, but I'll take this opportunity to plump for red rubber boots worn with knee socks.

― Mary (Mary), Sunday, 27 April 2003 19:05 (twenty-three years ago)

eight months pass...

http://www.zappos.com/images/564/124564/52364-d.jpg
OR
http://www.zappos.com/images/564/124564/52363-d.jpg
the black ones are awesome, but black boots are just... Guido. Right?

― Aaron A., Monday, 19 January 2004 04:26 (twenty-two years ago)

the first ones.
the black ones need to have a black sole to not look stupid

― Orbit (Orbit), Monday, 19 January 2004 04:31 (twenty-two years ago)

those look like the bunched-up leather at the ankle would be uncomfortable. Also they're kinda ugly.

― teeny (teeny), Monday, 19 January 2004 13:02 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't personally like either (sorry) but the first ones look better!

― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Monday, 19 January 2004 13:04 (twenty-two years ago)

Okay teeny and pinkpanther, I want to see what you like in a men's casual shoe (non-trainer). Just to make sure I can trust you.

― Aaron A., Monday, 19 January 2004 21:46 (twenty-two years ago)

Also, my (black lowtop) Chucks are in desperate need of replacement. What color this time? I'm thinking white
http://www.zappos.com/images/C/Converse2.2/26776-d.jpg
or even optical white
http://www.zappos.com/images/C/Converse2.2/15651-d.jpg

― Aaron A., Monday, 19 January 2004 21:52 (twenty-two years ago)

dude, get black purcells. Also, the white ones always look gross (and I ain't talkin about just some scuffs and dirt) after about two weeks.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 19 January 2004 21:53 (twenty-two years ago)

I should say white and cream chucks and purcells.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 19 January 2004 21:55 (twenty-two years ago)

Is your preference for Purcells purely aesthetic? I might try them.

― Aaron A., Monday, 19 January 2004 22:01 (twenty-two years ago)

yes, chuck's are too retro for me personally, while purcells are very timeless and always slightly futuristic - that said, some people look better in Chucks - they're more rock and roll for instance.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 19 January 2004 22:02 (twenty-two years ago)

Teeny & Pinkpanther: I rilly want an idea your tastes in this department. A pic, a brand, a decription. Maybe I'll have a fashion epiphany. Maybe I'll decide your taste is rub. But c'mon and represent!

― Aaron A., Tuesday, 20 January 2004 02:10 (twenty-two years ago)

Ok, they're a few months old at this point, but here's my latest pair of casual shoes. They're actually nice enough to wear with good trousers to your office's 'dress casual' day if need be, but they're great with jeans.

http://www.johnstonmurphy.com/images/products/1_29608_FS.jpg

― Sean (Sean), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 02:31 (twenty-two years ago)

Aaron, those are ghastly. These are similar, but much nicer. (If you want to take the advice of someone who can't figure out how to post a picture or to find one of the bajillion threads which tell how). http://www.zappos.com/n/p/dp/1188333/c/3056.html

― mouse, Tuesday, 20 January 2004 02:35 (twenty-two years ago)

Mouse, the vintage-trainer look is something I consciously avoid. I just find it faddy. (Though those are some of the least offensive examples I've seen.)

And Sean's looks great; they're simply less casual than what I'm looking for.

Oh well, that said, I almost did pick these
http://www.styledrops.com/foto/fer003m-33250/fer003m-33250_p.jpg
up, in white, at 2/3 off last weekend.

― Aaron A., Tuesday, 20 January 2004 04:46 (twenty-two years ago)

will get something as soon as I can, I was off ilx for most of the day yesterday--whole work week will be a bit busy. I'm guessing you favor natural colors over black? I can already tell you it will be something glossy and semi-conservative.

― teeny (teeny), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 11:08 (twenty-two years ago)

So you don't want trainers ~~my god what is wrong with this man~~ but you want a casual shoe?

― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 11:22 (twenty-two years ago)

I am not teeny or pinkpanther but I like these:
http://www.schuhstore.co.uk/images/product/3101236120_lg.jpg

― Archel (Archel), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 11:56 (twenty-two years ago)

Nice choice!

― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 12:05 (twenty-two years ago)

http://bluefly.speedera.net/zs.bluefly.com/mgen/Bluefly/prodImage.ms?productCode=1034847&width=240&height=240

kenneth cole, $70 at bluefly. the velcro could be a dealbreaker for you though.

http://bluefly.speedera.net/zs.bluefly.com/mgen/Bluefly/prodImage.ms?productCode=1036540&width=240&height=240
ralph lauren, $100 at bluefly.

― teeny (teeny), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 12:29 (twenty-two years ago)

actually I'm not totally keen on those either, I really go for a glossy or pebbled conservative shoe, in black or perhaps burgundy. I just don't get brown and suede is to be avoided at all costs.

― teeny (teeny), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 12:31 (twenty-two years ago)

Pink, tell me what's wrong with wanting a casual shoe that's not a trainer, please. I've got lots of trainers.

Archel's are cool.

― Aaron A., Tuesday, 20 January 2004 15:25 (twenty-two years ago)

I like Archel's too, I must've been half asleep when I picked those other shoes. Pink's just trainer-crazy, that's all. I'm in the anti-trainer camp.

― teeny (teeny), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 15:27 (twenty-two years ago)

Yep, soon to be mrs teeny, is quite correct. If it's trainers you're after I'm your gal, but it isn't so I'll have to have a rethink on what might be suitable. hmmm....

― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 16:11 (twenty-two years ago)

These are my favorite boots ever. Mine are very slightly different. But basically the same. I've had them for years. God help me if/when they ever fall apart.

http://www.shoeline.com/ECpublic/020/images/items/B717-1515.jpg

― Jeanne Fury (Jeanne Fury), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 16:14 (twenty-two years ago)

Aaron, are you more this...
http://www.officeholdings.co.uk/images/shoes/72332060b.jpg
or this...
http://www.officeholdings.co.uk/images/shoes/70047000b.jpg
or perhaps...
http://www.officeholdings.co.uk/images/shoes/41198000b.jpg
or maybe...
http://www.officeholdings.co.uk/images/shoes/71018081b.jpg

― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 16:17 (twenty-two years ago)

PP's question is U&K. Also Jeanne's boots are sexxxy, what kind are they?

― teeny (teeny), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 16:23 (twenty-two years ago)

The bottom shoes look like Cornish pasties. You can get away with them in black though, indeed I am rather fond of the pastry-styled footwear.

― Sarah (starry), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 16:43 (twenty-two years ago)

Um, they are the um... kind...on my feet... (fashion RETARD alarm is blaring right now) hang on. I'll find out.

― Jeanne Fury (Jeanne Fury), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 17:49 (twenty-two years ago)

Aha! They are the "Cove womens 10-inch original jump boot in black." But mine has a zipper down the side so I don't have to futz with all those laces every time I want to put them on or take them off. You lace em up once and that's it.

― Jeanne Fury (Jeanne Fury), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 17:56 (twenty-two years ago)

PP: Wingtips, easy. I love 'em. I've always had a pair, but I don't at the moment. Maybe I'll get some wingtips. Prolly Eccos again (so damned comfy).

― Aaron A., Tuesday, 20 January 2004 18:17 (twenty-two years ago)

good answer! but then why did you post those mushy looking shoes originally?

http://www.kennethcole.com/ is having a sale right now and also http://www.bluefly.com/ has great sales on men's shoes, and you can sort by size.

― teeny (teeny), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 18:57 (twenty-two years ago)

Wait a minute, wingtips are *way* dressier than the ones I posted!

― Sean (Sean), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 19:06 (twenty-two years ago)

Technically. Practically, though, a good broken-in pair of wingtips can be very casual in a way those ankle boots can't.

― Aaron A., Tuesday, 20 January 2004 20:10 (twenty-two years ago)

i vote for clark wallabies, which are like the last pair that pink posted (not in cream, though - ack). take heed: it's a fact that if people followed my fashion advice we'd all be happier, better-looking, and superlaid.

― lauren (laurenp), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 20:24 (twenty-two years ago)

Clark Wallabies are good if you want to look like a hippyish English professor, maybe.

― Sean (Sean), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 20:34 (twenty-two years ago)

oh, snap. i look totally right-on in mine, but maybe it's a girl thing.

― lauren (laurenp), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 20:39 (twenty-two years ago)

I used to have pale blue wallabies when I was at school. Back then it was all about the blue, nowadays it's gotta be pink!

― Bluepanther (Pinkpanther), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 11:48 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.vermontcountrystore.com/Content/ProdImages/f00956_lg.jpg

my mom alerted me to these shoes, what does everyone think?

― teeny (teeny), Thursday, 22 January 2004 14:59 (twenty-two years ago)

I like them, definitely!

― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Thursday, 22 January 2004 15:01 (twenty-two years ago)

they're sooo twee!

― teeny (teeny), Thursday, 22 January 2004 15:02 (twenty-two years ago)

Well that's prolly why I like them! I'm not sure if i'd buy them myself though tbh.

― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Thursday, 22 January 2004 15:04 (twenty-two years ago)

yeah they're like my secret twee shame, I can see them going very well with a couple of outfits in particular. :/

― teeny (teeny), Thursday, 22 January 2004 15:06 (twenty-two years ago)

I think I own the most twee pink shoes evah!

― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Thursday, 22 January 2004 15:12 (twenty-two years ago)

two months pass...

Ack! The zipper to my favorite hoodie sweatshirt just broke. Its somehow stuck at the very top by the collar, but none of the teeth are hooked together and it wont come back down! Are there professionals that can fix this?

― phil-two (phil-two), Thursday, 1 April 2004 01:13 (twenty-two years ago)

vaseline can unstick a zipper but somehow I don't think that's your problem. Take it to a tailor and have them put a new zipper in.

― teeny (teeny), Thursday, 1 April 2004 10:21 (twenty-two years ago)

ah yes, i took it to the koreans. its all fine now, except they had to replace one of the teeth, so instead of pale blue there's now one shiny blingbling gold tooth on it

― phil-two (phil-two), Thursday, 1 April 2004 18:35 (twenty-two years ago)

hoodie problems abound! i can't find my black fitted knit hoodie, only the slightly looser velour version. CURSES!

― lauren (laurenp), Thursday, 1 April 2004 18:47 (twenty-two years ago)

haha, I know what a tragedy that is!

subthread: what is the item of clothing you have that's most duplicated? y'know, like I have four pairs of docs, or ten grey sweaters.

― teeny (teeny), Thursday, 1 April 2004 18:53 (twenty-two years ago)

Stripey jumpers. I have tons (well about ten). This is because I have ~~a huge arse~~ a pear-shaped figure and am attempting to divert attention from this by creating the illusion that the top half is also wide.

It doesn't work.

― ailsa (ailsa), Thursday, 1 April 2004 18:55 (twenty-two years ago)

i have a lot of hoodies. when i see a good one, i buy it because they always come in handy. i've branched out from plain black recently, and now i also have:
-classic fitted grey sweatshirt material
-burgundy velour
-pale pink angora
-pale turquoise faux angora
-navy knit with an extremely asymmetrical zip that looks sick but unfortunately fits a bit strangely because my tits are too big

― lauren (laurenp), Thursday, 1 April 2004 19:25 (twenty-two years ago)

i can 't call them hoodies. makes me think ice cream. i have a few.

i have a lot of black v neck t-shirts.

― kephm, Thursday, 1 April 2004 20:21 (twenty-two years ago)

and teeny thanks for the girly laundry advice from a thread last month (i doubt you remember but thanks)

― kephm, Thursday, 1 April 2004 20:23 (twenty-two years ago)

the shooz rule, Teeny

― Donna Brown (Donna Brown), Thursday, 1 April 2004 21:49 (twenty-two years ago)

they only came in a size 12 AAA :(

― teeny (teeny), Thursday, 1 April 2004 21:57 (twenty-two years ago)

goddammit!

― Donna Brown (Donna Brown), Thursday, 1 April 2004 21:59 (twenty-two years ago)

one month passes...

I've just discovered this page. My, how helpful!

― Skottie, Wednesday, 26 May 2004 00:19 (twenty-two years ago)

I tend to favor the Emo-Romulan look.

― Skottie, Wednesday, 26 May 2004 00:25 (twenty-two years ago)

five months pass...

Which watch?

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0002ZUZRG/sr=1-21/qid=1101091361/ref=sr_1_21/002-3787138-0282431?%5Fencoding=UTF8&n=3888811&s=jewelry&v=glance

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0002Z1HFU/sr=1-9/qid=1101091022/ref=sr_1_9/002-3787138-0282431?%5Fencoding=UTF8&n=3888811&s=jewelry&v=glance

???

― Cathy (Cathy), Monday, 22 November 2004 02:49 (twenty-one years ago)

The first one.

― papa november (papa november), Monday, 22 November 2004 02:54 (twenty-one years ago)

really? i think the last one is the hotter of the two!

― jill schoelen is the queen of my dreams! (Homosexual II), Monday, 22 November 2004 03:32 (twenty-one years ago)

i like the first one too

― gem (trisk), Monday, 22 November 2004 03:34 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.fossil.com/images/us/local/products/viewlarger/MC5125265.jpg

Is this jacket a wise or foolish choice?

― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Monday, 22 November 2004 03:38 (twenty-one years ago)

mandee right.

― RJG (RJG), Monday, 22 November 2004 03:38 (twenty-one years ago)

milo, depends on how much it is

― todd swiss (eliti), Monday, 22 November 2004 03:40 (twenty-one years ago)

The second one is hotter but more impractical.

― papa november (papa november), Monday, 22 November 2004 04:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Wise Milo, it's a classic style in an easy to coordinate colour.

― papa november (papa november), Monday, 22 November 2004 04:33 (twenty-one years ago)

It's ~$60, maybe a little less if the Fossil store has a sale on.

― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Monday, 22 November 2004 05:10 (twenty-one years ago)

the second watch, cathy.

― cºzen (Cozen), Monday, 22 November 2004 10:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Second it is, I think.

― Cathy (Cathy), Monday, 22 November 2004 11:32 (twenty-one years ago)

I think I shouldn't dye my hair this (left) colour, but what do you think?

― cºzen (Cozen), Monday, 22 November 2004 14:18 (twenty-one years ago)

impractical?

― RJG (RJG), Monday, 22 November 2004 14:19 (twenty-one years ago)

grey good

― RJG (RJG), Monday, 22 November 2004 14:20 (twenty-one years ago)

impractical.

― cºzen (Cozen), Monday, 22 November 2004 14:20 (twenty-one years ago)

if i had light hair, i'd be so tempted to dye it silver-white.

― lauren (laurenp), Monday, 22 November 2004 14:22 (twenty-one years ago)

me too. i LOVE white hair!

― jill schoelen is the queen of my dreams! (Homosexual II), Monday, 22 November 2004 14:26 (twenty-one years ago)

I am sorely tempted. should I go ask a hairdresser?

― cºzen (Cozen), Monday, 22 November 2004 14:28 (twenty-one years ago)

you have fair hair, right? what you need to do is go to a beauty supply shop, buy bleach and toner and developer (40 volume, probably) and some manic panic virgin snow to use after you've bleached everything out.

― lauren (laurenp), Monday, 22 November 2004 14:33 (twenty-one years ago)

(i'm only suggesting home bleaching because you have short hair. long-haired people, go see a stylist and don't fool around on your own.)

― lauren (laurenp), Monday, 22 November 2004 14:34 (twenty-one years ago)

I need a girlfriend.

― cºzen (Cozen), Monday, 22 November 2004 14:35 (twenty-one years ago)

don't be silly.

― RJG (RJG), Monday, 22 November 2004 14:37 (twenty-one years ago)

you're right. I can do this myself.

― cºzen (Cozen), Monday, 22 November 2004 14:37 (twenty-one years ago)

you can. it's no big deal. just don't smoke around the bleach.

― lauren (laurenp), Monday, 22 November 2004 14:48 (twenty-one years ago)

seven months pass...

What's in fashion?

― I'm bad and dirty and going to hell (nordicskilla), Monday, 27 June 2005 15:10 (twenty years ago)

two years pass...

What do you call the type of jacket here sported by Jermaine from FOTC?

http://nymag.com/images/2/daily/entertainment/07/07/11_flightoftheconchords_lg.jpg

― Alba, Friday, 12 October 2007 21:20 (eighteen years ago)

(the one on the left)

― Alba, Friday, 12 October 2007 21:20 (eighteen years ago)

It's a field jacket, I think?

― elmo argonaut, Friday, 12 October 2007 21:22 (eighteen years ago)

The one on our left, I mean. The woolen, checked one.

― Alba, Friday, 12 October 2007 21:23 (eighteen years ago)

Agreed. The gun flaps on shoulders give it away! Nice plaid.

― Laurel, Friday, 12 October 2007 21:24 (eighteen years ago)

Really? When I google image search "field jacket" they're all like camoflague jackets or other things nothing like it.

― Alba, Friday, 12 October 2007 21:26 (eighteen years ago)

Millivanillitary

P.S. it is, amazingly enough, "Jemaine"

― nabisco, Friday, 12 October 2007 21:26 (eighteen years ago)

Oh, Jemaine, whoops. Well anyway, I am no closer to finding ones on the net.

― Alba, Friday, 12 October 2007 21:29 (eighteen years ago)

Field jacket really just refers to the cut of the garment, not really to the material or the pattern.

― elmo argonaut, Friday, 12 October 2007 21:29 (eighteen years ago)

It's sort of an...overshirt, more than a coat. I've got an old unlined grey wool one, but without the reinforced shoulders.

― Laurel, Friday, 12 October 2007 21:30 (eighteen years ago)

I can't find one on ebay :(

― Alba, Friday, 12 October 2007 21:31 (eighteen years ago)

you might be able to search one out if you are vigilant and keep searching the vintage pendleton and woolrich plaids.

― Yerac, Friday, 12 October 2007 21:46 (eighteen years ago)

just buy this one, it might be too big

― Yerac, Friday, 12 October 2007 21:54 (eighteen years ago)

Ha - awesome. Too big though, yeah.

― Alba, Friday, 12 October 2007 21:57 (eighteen years ago)

It's funny that it's been described as a FOTC jacket. I had it in my head these jackets were very common in the US.

― Alba, Friday, 12 October 2007 21:58 (eighteen years ago)

They were not uncommon on streets as of (say) the 1960s/70s, and are not uncommon now in (say) thrift stores that have coats from the 1960s/70s.

― nabisco, Friday, 12 October 2007 22:02 (eighteen years ago)

nick, don't you have one like that? it seems like the kind of thing you would have.

― lauren, Friday, 12 October 2007 22:03 (eighteen years ago)

Actually, I'm having trouble locking down a distinct period in my head, but it's very easy to imagine a middle-aged working man in a town like Buffalo wearing one of those, kinda anytime from 1955-1975.

― nabisco, Friday, 12 October 2007 22:04 (eighteen years ago)

Futher into the 70s, actually: the whole point of Jemaine wearing that one was to look like Marvin Gaye!

― nabisco, Friday, 12 October 2007 22:06 (eighteen years ago)

it's like a pendleton 49er jacket but not quite, but pendleton makes a lot of plaid jackets (try ebay)

― daria-g, Friday, 12 October 2007 22:38 (eighteen years ago)

the plaid thing is called a pea coat, i think it's a navy term.

― tremendoid, Friday, 12 October 2007 22:41 (eighteen years ago)

nah i'm wrong on the 49er but pendleton men's coats you might find something?

http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-PENDLETON-Wool-Coat-Jacket-Plaid-Mens-Large-XL_W0QQitemZ150170241029QQihZ005QQcategoryZ52403QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

― daria-g, Friday, 12 October 2007 22:41 (eighteen years ago)

d'oh! sorry about the messed up url!

― daria-g, Friday, 12 October 2007 22:41 (eighteen years ago)

Pea coats don't have the flaps.

― nabisco, Friday, 12 October 2007 22:41 (eighteen years ago)

I don't know that Alba cares about the flaps, though.

― nabisco, Friday, 12 October 2007 22:42 (eighteen years ago)

peacoats are not normally plaid.

― Yerac, Friday, 12 October 2007 22:44 (eighteen years ago)

if you're searching on ebay for it & the popular thing is a "flight of the conchords" coat it's going to be expensive, but figure out the keywords and you can prob get a much cheaper one, or put it on yr watch list and hit "view similar items"

(just bought vintage wingtip oxford shoes & awesome vintage kenzo purse for very cheap on ebay)

― daria-g, Friday, 12 October 2007 22:45 (eighteen years ago)

yeah it's a stylized pea coat to me, although most pea coats are one those things which are mostly about being a pea coat.

― tremendoid, Friday, 12 October 2007 22:45 (eighteen years ago)

iow stylized = not a pea coat

― tremendoid, Friday, 12 October 2007 22:46 (eighteen years ago)

that makes no sense.

― Yerac, Friday, 12 October 2007 22:47 (eighteen years ago)

Oh, I care. And Lauren, I do have one, that I bought in a US-oriented vintage clothes store maybe 15 years ago now, but it's shorter and not plaid. Plaid! Vintage clothes store! I'm talking American. It seems apt. Maybe I'll post a picture of me in that jacket.

I have a pea jacket too, but it's quite different.

― Alba, Friday, 12 October 2007 22:48 (eighteen years ago)

pea coat is double breasted..

― daria-g, Friday, 12 October 2007 22:50 (eighteen years ago)

is it more like a car coat?
http://www.rustyzipper.com/shop.cfm/rz/type~Jackets/search~Car%20Coat/gender~Mens/Mens_carcoat_Jackets.cfm

― daria-g, Friday, 12 October 2007 22:51 (eighteen years ago)

Oh shit, I just assumed Jemaine's was double-breasted -- I'm surprised to notice it's not!

― nabisco, Friday, 12 October 2007 22:55 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.mandmsportsden.com/images/uploads/woolrich_hunting_coat.jpg

About the same, no? From Woolrich. Not cheap, though -- about $175.00.

― Laurel, Friday, 12 October 2007 22:57 (eighteen years ago)

I think maybe I just want Jemaine's.

― Alba, Friday, 12 October 2007 22:58 (eighteen years ago)

Googled it up under "wool hunt coat" and "wool field coat", both worked.

xp haha. Start hitting thrift stores now.

― Laurel, Friday, 12 October 2007 22:59 (eighteen years ago)

why don't you call him since all you english know each other.

― Yerac, Friday, 12 October 2007 23:00 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.sierratradingpost.com/p/97141,49018_.html

http://www.llbean.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CategoryDisplay?page=maine-guide-wool-parka&categoryId=43153&storeId=1&catalogId=1&langId=-1&parentCategory=502908&cat4=6348&shop_method=pp&feat=502908-tn

― gabbneb, Friday, 12 October 2007 23:09 (eighteen years ago)

I sense an extended "jacket vs. coat" discussion oncoming.

― nabisco, Friday, 12 October 2007 23:11 (eighteen years ago)

Oh yes let's.

― Laurel, Friday, 12 October 2007 23:12 (eighteen years ago)

none of those coats are close.

― Yerac, Friday, 12 October 2007 23:13 (eighteen years ago)

Actually the Woolrich one is almost exactly the same detail-for-detail, just missing the gun shoulders. Unfortunately for N, that giant green & mustard plaid has probably not been produced since 1974 or so.

― Laurel, Friday, 12 October 2007 23:15 (eighteen years ago)

i LOVE the gun shoulders.

― Yerac, Friday, 12 October 2007 23:16 (eighteen years ago)

But how does Peter Jennings feel about them?

― Laurel, Friday, 12 October 2007 23:19 (eighteen years ago)

he is crying a lone tear.

― Yerac, Friday, 12 October 2007 23:21 (eighteen years ago)

no the STP one doesn't much look like the one in the picture and isn't very attractive looking (but there pictures never are). but it's a $40 Woolrich coat.

― gabbneb, Friday, 12 October 2007 23:24 (eighteen years ago)

The thing I have that is sort of the same cut:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v417/albaalba/DSCF4725a.jpg

The pea jacket/coat I have that is nothing like it:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v417/albaalba/DSCF4732a.jpg

― Alba, Friday, 12 October 2007 23:25 (eighteen years ago)

In digging out these items I have been reminded how many jackets and coats I have and that I probably shouldn't be buying any more just now.

― Alba, Friday, 12 October 2007 23:26 (eighteen years ago)

I like this coat almost as much as I hate this show

― gabbneb, Friday, 12 October 2007 23:26 (eighteen years ago)

oh gabbs

i love these but they're never lined enough to make them heavy and actually coat-like

― jergïns, Friday, 12 October 2007 23:29 (eighteen years ago)

did you dig those out and model them just for us?

― lauren, Saturday, 13 October 2007 00:30 (eighteen years ago)

Yes!

― Alba, Saturday, 13 October 2007 00:35 (eighteen years ago)

i prefer to take my fashion cues from the mighty boosh

― LaMonte, Saturday, 13 October 2007 03:50 (eighteen years ago)

i'm sorry, but "peacoat" is one of those sartorial terms that tends to be very specific -- if it's not double-breasted and doesn't have broad lapels, it ceases to be a peacoat. You can have a different color or pattern -- though it's a lot more common in women's peacoats -- but they're almost always navy blue or black.

― elmo argonaut, Saturday, 13 October 2007 12:35 (eighteen years ago)

in nz they have these w/ that plaid style and they're called swanndris (a brand name). this is sort of like it, but it's a pull-over? http://www.swanndri.co.nz/default.aspx?T=2&P=5

― t_g, Monday, 15 October 2007 15:06 (eighteen years ago)

Do you think I could wear a tank top - plain grey?

(The answer is no, isn't it?)

― Dr.C, Monday, 15 October 2007 15:23 (eighteen years ago)

To...the gym? A noize show? The supermarket?

― Laurel, Monday, 15 October 2007 15:24 (eighteen years ago)

in general - no. at the gym, in your garage fixing something, doing yardwork, ok. otherwise, not in public!

― lauren, Monday, 15 October 2007 15:26 (eighteen years ago)

Isn't it getting cold enough to make this question fairly moot?

― Laurel, Monday, 15 October 2007 15:28 (eighteen years ago)

Do you think I could wear a tank top - plain grey?

(The answer is no, isn't it?)

--------------------------------------------------

I think that in UK speak, tank top = sweater vest.

― ENBB, Monday, 15 October 2007 15:29 (eighteen years ago)

a man's ability to wear a tank top to really depends on how good his shoulders & arms look, imho.

― elmo argonaut, Monday, 15 October 2007 15:30 (eighteen years ago)

The GYM?

I think, Lauren and Laurel, that you have the wrong idea - in the UK they're sleeveless, woolly, and worn over a shirt. I don't know what else you could call them apart from sleeveless pullover.

There seem to be more about this year. I saw one I liked.

But it's best not to, isn't it?

― Dr.C, Monday, 15 October 2007 15:52 (eighteen years ago)

What's wrong with "sweater vest"?? Besides the fact that the UK doesn't recognize the word "sweater" at all, and vests are something else entirely, I guess.

Dr C, I'm pro-sweater vest, no problem. Trim fit, though, and pref solid color -- the decorative ones are a fine, fine line, I fear.

― Laurel, Monday, 15 October 2007 15:56 (eighteen years ago)

See, in American, a men's tank top generally refers to a sleeveless undershirt. See also: wifebeater.

― elmo argonaut, Monday, 15 October 2007 15:57 (eighteen years ago)

x-post Solid colour - oh hell yes!

― Dr.C, Monday, 15 October 2007 15:57 (eighteen years ago)

i like sweater vests. go for it.

my question: where can i find black pants that are nice enough to wear to work in an office without being wide/baggy? all of the slim-fitting ones seem to have too much elastic in them that makes the fabric looks shiny and cheap.

― bell_labs, Monday, 15 October 2007 16:10 (eighteen years ago)

yes, i like sweater vests as well. dr. c, laurel and i were thinking of a vest top (at least i think that's the uk terminology for it).

― lauren, Monday, 15 October 2007 16:11 (eighteen years ago)

xxp Also good under many of the more rugged varieties of sportcoat, ie a corduroy one, a nice tweedy one, field coats, etc.

bell, someone else leggy will have to answer that, I despise trousers for never being thigh-y enough without being horrible everywhere else.

― Laurel, Monday, 15 October 2007 16:12 (eighteen years ago)

bell, i got a great pair at the gap last year. they probably stil have something similar, if not the same exact style.

― lauren, Monday, 15 October 2007 16:13 (eighteen years ago)

i always like club monaco for nice fitting trousers. they run about $129-$159 but they also have pretty good sales. i just got a grey pinstriped pair with cuffs. tempted to buy black high-waisted ones as well but then asked myself, do i really need yet another pair of black trousers? probably not.

― daria-g, Monday, 15 October 2007 18:03 (eighteen years ago)

i like jeenz because i can bite the foot part and go RRRRRR

― a puppy, Monday, 15 October 2007 18:21 (eighteen years ago)

for me my favuorite designer is puppia jackets and americna aparrel dog shirts

― a puppy, Monday, 15 October 2007 18:22 (eighteen years ago)

yes, i like sweater vests as well. dr. c, laurel and i were thinking of a vest top (at least i think that's the uk terminology for it

Yes, probably. Only thugs wear them publicly though!

Also good under many of the more rugged varieties of sportcoat, ie a corduroy one, a nice tweedy one, field coats, etc

Hmm. don't have any of these. What's a field coat? In the UK, that implies a waxed coat like a Barbour or similar. I don't have one of those. I have a jacket which my other half refers to as a 'geography teacher's jacket'.

― Dr.C, Monday, 15 October 2007 19:29 (eighteen years ago)

You know, anything reminiscent of genteel safari expeditions or casual shooting parties or whatever.

― Laurel, Monday, 15 October 2007 19:36 (eighteen years ago)

ZOMG Alba I have both those same coats! Well, really similar anyway. We should go play twinners and paint the town red one night.

― Abbott, Monday, 15 October 2007 19:40 (eighteen years ago)

I have no idea what clothes I want to wear anymore. I think I had a midlife crisis after getting sick. Stopped caring about clothes, still don't care about them, stopped bothering to style hair or wear matching clothes.

I feel better mentally now but the desire to choose clothes or any sense of what to wear or what I would like to wear is lost. I don't even know what subculture I'm supposed to be part of, that would help for sheeplike imitation of what others wear.

― Ronan, Monday, 15 October 2007 20:08 (eighteen years ago)

You know, anything reminiscent of genteel safari expeditions or casual shooting parties or whatever

Sadly my casual wardrobe is mainly reminiscent of expeditions to the pub :)

― Dr.C, Monday, 15 October 2007 20:20 (eighteen years ago)

like this, Laurel?
http://www.heatfactory.com/hooded-jacket-adv127350.jpg

― milo z, Monday, 15 October 2007 20:21 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, rock the sweater vest under THAT genteel motherfucker.

― Laurel, Monday, 15 October 2007 20:22 (eighteen years ago)

Millo, does the jacket come with blue radiation? AWESOME. :-)

xxxpost Is it because you're entering a new "stage" of your life? I know it was somewhat difficult for me when I was entering my thirties and realized I couldn't wear the same thing (as five years ago) anymore. I remember stubbornly trying all these silly t-shirts and having toi come to terms with this fact. Well, they weren't silly, just "club" clothes that were of no use to me as I don't go out much anymore and don't look "the part".

― stevienixed, Monday, 15 October 2007 20:26 (eighteen years ago)

I just wore a pair of pinstriped girls dickies to a job interview.

i used to be way into the sweater vest.

― Yerac, Monday, 15 October 2007 22:04 (eighteen years ago)

tried on an APC sweater this weekend. is it really necessary to spend $168 for a decent piece of wool to cover your back?

― moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 16 October 2007 17:02 (eighteen years ago)

Nope. But it's not necessary to shop at APC, either.

― Laurel, Tuesday, 16 October 2007 17:02 (eighteen years ago)

so recommend a good wool sweater already

― moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 16 October 2007 17:11 (eighteen years ago)

i bought a 25$ wool vneck @ h&m yesterday. doesnt seem like the nicest thing ever by any means but it looks good

― deej, Tuesday, 16 October 2007 17:19 (eighteen years ago)

Dunno, Vahid, to be honest I ush shop at sales or discount places: Syms, Cent 21, whatever you have out there. It's been so long since I bought clothes, I don't remember. :(

― Laurel, Tuesday, 16 October 2007 17:20 (eighteen years ago)

Sample sales, too.

― Laurel, Tuesday, 16 October 2007 17:20 (eighteen years ago)

how can you charge $25 for a wool sweater? unless it's made in china from stray dogs + cats?

― moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 16 October 2007 17:21 (eighteen years ago)

they have tons of sample sales down the street from me but it's ALWAYS women's stuff only.

― moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 16 October 2007 17:22 (eighteen years ago)

OMG TJ Maxx, how could I forget?

Today I'm wearing a suit jacket from a JCrew sample sale I went to in 1998, a Lily Pulitzer dress shirt from TJ Maxx in Michigan, a skirt from Syms in 1998, and shoes from DSW. Srsly I work in publishing and have no money.

― Laurel, Tuesday, 16 October 2007 17:23 (eighteen years ago)

i bought a sweater at h&m once, but it was really coarse and scratchy and annoying :(

― sleep, Tuesday, 16 October 2007 17:25 (eighteen years ago)

how can you charge $25 for a wool sweater? unless it's made in china from stray dogs + cats?

it's super-thin and out of season, i.e. BR sale

― gabbneb, Tuesday, 16 October 2007 17:26 (eighteen years ago)

they fall apart pretty quickly

― gabbneb, Tuesday, 16 October 2007 17:27 (eighteen years ago)

i have lots of clothes from 1998 still in my wardrobe, though lately i've been getting a little too...well, they are too small now.

― bell_labs, Tuesday, 16 October 2007 17:28 (eighteen years ago)

This is why I sew.

― Laurel, Tuesday, 16 October 2007 17:30 (eighteen years ago)

my sweaters from banana republic and j crew tend to stretch out of shape and develop holes really quickly. i have some sweaters from random boutique skate brands but they're all cut in really blocky and square shapes. i have some really fancy paul smith sweaters but they're so fragile that i'm afraid to wear them on a daily basis.

so i want something that i can wear once a week for like five years without worrying about it. what am i looking for?

― moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 16 October 2007 17:34 (eighteen years ago)

Lands' End or LL Bean or Woolrich or some other quality workhorse brand? You'll still have to dry-clean it and store it away from moths an' shit but at least it won't come unraveled when the wind blows.

― Laurel, Tuesday, 16 October 2007 17:35 (eighteen years ago)

i agree, ll bean one would last for ages, plus, not expensive. I trawl ebay for vintage pringle of scotland/braemar/ballantyne cashmere sometimes, or scottish wool. or go to massive thrift stores in new england because there is tons of cool stuff and a lot of very warm workhorse sweaters.. do yours stretch out because of how you wash or dry them? i hand wash mine in woolite, roll up in a towel to get out excess water, and lay them out to dry.

― daria-g, Tuesday, 16 October 2007 19:55 (eighteen years ago)

how can you charge $25 for a wool sweater? unless it's made in china from stray dogs + cats?

it's super-thin and out of season, i.e. BR sale

-- gabbneb, Tuesday, October 16, 2007 12:26 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Link

they fall apart pretty quickly

-- gabbneb, Tuesday, October 16, 2007 12:27 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Link

otm at all these things

― deej, Tuesday, 16 October 2007 19:57 (eighteen years ago)

1. I still find APC kind of an awkward buy -- they're making standard casual clothes at a level of awesomeness that is maybe worth the ridiculous prices, but yeah right, like I'm sophisticated enough to need that perfect $200 sweater (though I do wish I'd bought the Best Jacket in the World for $600 there last year)

2. Wool and cashmere are super-cheap now because of (really!) China -- and now, when you buy your cheap wool, you can keep in mind that parts of northern China are being polluted and eroded and turned into post-nuclear wastelands by intensive raising of animals for this stuff, and turning into a dust bowl that kicks up clouds of horrible crap so huge that they can actually float across the Pacific and fuck up air quality on the west coast (I listen to NPR sometimes)

― nabisco, Tuesday, 16 October 2007 20:59 (eighteen years ago)

^^^if i buy expensive wool is this not the case?

― deej, Tuesday, 16 October 2007 21:13 (eighteen years ago)

not a defense of my shitty new sweater, just wondering

― deej, Tuesday, 16 October 2007 21:13 (eighteen years ago)

If you buy expensive wool it makes the post-nuclear wastelands fancy.

― Alba, Tuesday, 16 October 2007 21:20 (eighteen years ago)

if only everything was made of hemp :(

― deej, Tuesday, 16 October 2007 21:21 (eighteen years ago)

I trawl ebay for vintage pringle of scotland/braemar/ballantyne cashmere sometimes, or scottish wool.
-- daria-g, Tuesday, October 16, 2007

i used to trawl ebay for vintage pendleton shirts. then one time i opened my closet and about half a dozen moths flew out. i put my two recent ebay "deals" in a plastic trash bag, tied it up and threw it out. no more moths.

also they smelled like dead sheep.

i'm still trawling vintage shops for a nice gloverall, though a duffle coat is really overkill for 2/3 of the year in california

― moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 16 October 2007 21:29 (eighteen years ago)

I have a couple vintage plaid workshirts & some pendleton plaid scarves.. one thing you can do is put it in a plastic trash bag, and then put it in the freezer for couple days, take it out for a day, and put it back for 2 more. that will kill all the moths. I should go through all my stuff though, I've seen a moth or two in my apartment and am worried they got to something.. although I had some disgustingly strong moth repellent in my closet and so far all my vintage coats seem to be in good shape

― daria-g, Tuesday, 16 October 2007 21:44 (eighteen years ago)

I just wear acrylic sweaters for the most part. My cashmere ones I have got at these three boutiques in El Paso that are way too 'spensive for the general pop. there and around March the clearance gets down to 75-90% off...I payed $25 for this absolutely fantastic black cowl-neck cashmere.

― Abbott, Tuesday, 16 October 2007 22:31 (eighteen years ago)

That was orig. $225.

― Abbott, Tuesday, 16 October 2007 22:31 (eighteen years ago)

high fashion advice: is rodarte utterly HIDEOUS or am i crazy?

― daria-g, Wednesday, 17 October 2007 00:23 (eighteen years ago)

Based on the photos on their website, I suspect it's less obnoxious if you think of it as textile art instead of clothing?

― Laurel, Wednesday, 17 October 2007 00:35 (eighteen years ago)

A lot of the Fall 06 line looks like a human being might someday wear it, but the Spring 07...no.

― Laurel, Wednesday, 17 October 2007 00:38 (eighteen years ago)

how is it even possible to wear an acrylic sweater?
even just trying them on makes me hot and itchy

i do have an acrylic toque though which i love so i don't know
xpost

i think my shopping mechanizm has brokenend

― rrrobyn, Wednesday, 17 October 2007 00:52 (eighteen years ago)

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