would you like to lose weight?

raving was the most effective and most fun way to lose weight evah. one does tend to pack it on again when one stops raving, though.

wow that's probably the dumbest sounding post i've ever made! i'm perversely proud.

how do i do this without changing my shitty, suicidal lifestyle?

I might suggest changing your lifestyle and then, not only will you likely lose weight, there could perhaps be other benefits as well.

but I might be wrong

this is just...this is not going to happen.

exercise

no.

monitor your calories. eat 5x day. you can still eat a lot, just pay more attention to the content? but that probably doesn't fit in either.

I recently gave up drinking booze during the week, we will see how this works out.

eat vegetables

go on biggest loser

i was really looking for something like "i know a genie who will grant you three wishes."

laparoscopic band surgery?

how rich are u?

tapeworm?

bulimia?

move to north korea

now what kind of question is that?

xxxpost

heroin?

nuevo cuisine only diet. u might get so sick of it you stop eating crap and crave vegetables?

why didn't someone tell me sitting on my ass for six months and drinking in the afternoon was going to make me gain 15 lbs?

Stop eating bread.

seriously though - gyms are great for efficiency - more time to continue shitty, suicidal lifestyle than more "natural" forms of exercise and dieting

http://sandco.net/shop/images/mega-fat-buster-new.jpg

* side effects include growth of extra set of arms

u can eat twice as much with two sets of arms

i heard there's ONE RULE that if you OBEY you will obtain the stomach of a young woman

that's for moms though

what rule are we talking about

lose inches off your waist in just days!

hire a young child to dance on it for 20min 2x day

maybe i can donate my excess fat to science.

rich ladies inject assfat into their faces to make them look younger. maybeyou could make some coogar rly happy but i worry her face may reject your ass.

hire a drill sergeant who will follow you around and yell at you from time to time to drop and give him 20

but i worry her face may reject your ass.

:'-(

maybe there are new fat transplant anti-rejection drugs on the market though, so this worry may be unfounded!

ok i've got it:

give rich lady your assfat to make her look younger ---> she is so happy with her newfound beauty she pays for the rest of your lipo!

That picture of the Mega Fat Buster bottle makes the text around it seem to bend in the opposite direction.

i kinda wish i was large enough to need lipo. as it stands right now i'd probably start looking like a very tall ghandi.

http://onproductmanagement.files.wordpress.com/2007/06/dyson.jpg

Just stay fat.

do they have individual donors for that, or is it done from an anonymous ass-fat bank?

xp - i posted that same vacuum cleaner in another thread ...

yes you did!

go for a lot of very long walks more often

it was a very fancy vacuum ...

that unfortunately now reminds me of talk like a pirate day ...

maybe i can donate my excess fat to science.

Or maybe use it to make soap?
http://www.fictionontheweb.co.uk/top250films/Fight_Club.jpg

xpost Was talk like a pirate day the worst day of your life?

let's not let that infection spread to other innocent threads, like this one

The thread question is wrong to begin with. Never lose "weight." Bathroom scales are an evil plot to put you on weird diets that starve and dehydrate you and make you less healthy. Only lose fat.

why didn't someone tell me sitting on my ass for six months and drinking in the afternoon was going to make me gain 15 lbs?

pssshhhtt, if that's all you've gained you just need a couple of looser t-shirts

Really the only correct answer is this:

exercise

― Mr. Que

Sorry.

you have to understand i'm 4'11".

do they have individual donors for that, or is it done from an anonymous ass-fat bank?

i believe it is taken from the person's own ass.

xxxxxp - maybe he's done this for 10 years and has actually gained 15 lbs every 6 months?

if you want to lose weight and reject the only sensible ways to accomplish this, like eating less and exercising more, then I have a very expensive, secret way to lose weight that I would like to sell you for an exorbitant amount of money. It's guaranteed to work, or you are allowed to complain that it didn't! Prepaid orders only, please.

xp haha He would not be the first. I've done it myself!

kenan is right, have never understood why losing weight and getting healthier/looking better are so often taken as synonymous. looking in the mirror is probably a better guide than stepping on the scales.

also, exercise is more fun than you think once you get into it.

i think that all depends on where you are when you start. some people just need to lose weight. strongo is probably not one of them. i'm guessing a rebalancing of body composition is really what would work for him.

lift weights - this is the best way srsly

you also get to feel very a tiny bit cocky and self-satisfied about yourself

This is no joke: http://hundredpushups.com/

yeah if i could somehow move some of the lovehandle region to the prepubescent boy arms region, i'd be cool

ab crunches

also: accountability. having someone to report to makes you keep with whatever you decide to do. built-in guilt works wonders.

xpost ab crunches are a really inefficient way to lose weight - they're for toning muscle in that area

If you exercise I recommend lots of sweat cardio.

sweaty

built-in guilt works wonders.

Vanity can do the same work. Are you vain enough? ARE YOU, PUNK?

lifting weights? no

ab crunches work to lose fat in that area ... but sweaty cardio is far better for overall weight loss

cardio is the only solution

i know i'm unwanted on fat people/diet/exercise threads but that must be said

Because you're skinny?

xxpost I thought that was an exercise myth about ab crunches.

it apparently works ok when combined with cardio ...

I've lost maybe 30 pounds so far since I started Atkins. I don't have to exercise. If you can handle hot or bbq pork rinds as emergency food then this diet might work for you. Also it works best if you don't go out drinking.

don't do atkins you will be thinner but you will die sooner

depends where your priorities lie i guess

i'm guessing strongo drinks at home

maybe you want to be thinner, and you want to die sooner. i don't know.

yeah but won't you have a heart attack soon?

strength training combined wiht cardio is the way to go about weight loss and body composition change. if you just do cardio, depending on where your heart rates/metablism are/is, you may lose muscle as you lose weight.

I have handweights that I use for a strength workout while watching movies, and I do crunches on the reg just to keep muscle mass up, but that's not about losing weight, it's about having a supported core and the upper-body strength to do things like lift my TV and air conditioner over my head if necessary.

oh you wont die sooner if the diet isn't permanent harbl

how is your blood pressure?

i lift my air conditioner over my head for exercise

strength training combined wiht cardio is the way to go about weight loss and body composition change. if you just do cardio, depending on where your heart rates/metablism are/is, you may lose muscle as you lose weight.

that's what I've been told as well.

maybe if you all weren't so fat you wouldn't need air conditioners.

ab crunches are a really inefficient way to lose weight - they're for toning muscle in that area

Of course they're a bad way to lose weight. Muscle weighs about 18% per volume than fat, and you may actually GAIN weight if you start exercising a lot, at least at first. But what th' fuck ever, you'll still look way better naked.

Also, cardio alone doesn't "burn" fat very well. Cardio is awesome and important for increasing general blood flow, so that your body can more efficiently deliver muscle-building stuff to muscles and take away waste. You're still going to get slimmer very slowly if all you have done is made your cardiovascular system more efficient overall. Also, doing a bunch of exercise while simultaneously cutting back on your food intake is a motherfucker. You'll want to eat EVERYTHING IN THE WORLD, and eventually you will. Much better to pick muscle groups and rip the hell out of them and rotate the days you rip the hell out of them and may actually eat MORE. Not only is it way, way faster than starving, it's a lot more fun.

drink paint thinner and die sooner

many many xposts

you could also try carrying your air conditioners up and down stairs, as well as lifting them over your head.

where do u guys get all this shit

'strue! i have lost 10 lbs so far and i eat more now than i used to.
xpost to kenan

xp harbl: i don't know ... i imagine they get the air conditioners at some store or other

never forget
Harvell: It's What Fatty Tastes Like!

dieting is the best way to lose weight - strength training is best for changing yr body - cardio is good for overall healthiness and energy

where do u guys get all this shit

Careful combination of reading things and trying them. Because if you just try to read stuff and pick something, you'll shoot yourself out of frustration before you get a straight answer from anyone on how this all works.

thanx

shoot yourself and lose weight

btw i havent exercised much for the last month and a half due to a busted knee and ive lost weight to to decreased appetite and coincidental decline in alcohol intake i guess

is there an ice cream diet?

oh also visible results are the best motivator to continue doing whatever exercise you do

xxxxpost I have learned everything from things I click after logging out of yahoo mail. I ride a bike and don't ever try to lose weight because of that.

riding a bike seems to be the worst way to lose weight just based on all the fattays u see out there totally geared up

Maybe, yeah. But I've never gained weight. A little in my early twenties, like, up to 160 at most.

I'd make fun of you for feeling fat at 160, except that's a tiny bit heavy for me, too. I'm made to be kinda spindly, that's just how it is.

I didn't feel fat. It didn't really occur to me that I had gained weight until I lost it.

Oh totally! I was at about 190 at some point, every ounce of it was beer, and it wasn't until I lost it that I went... wait a second! I remember looking like this! It was better!

Mmmmmmmm, beer.

Before that, I just assumed I was going through some kind of second puberty. Or something.

puBEERty

^^^

Dadrza has lost like 30 lbs since jan bc of biking but probably a lot of that is bc he made the switch from a largely sedentary lifestyle.

momel did south beach + swimming and lost about 30 lbs at one point, but then hurt her knee and went off the diet

You call them Dadrza and Momel? I have a friend from Michigan who I think says Mommus and Daddus.

only on ilx ...

meta thread title

It's like you're google-proofing your mom's name. Your mom is going to google herself: "mom."

both parents-za did south beach at one point and did well but then went off. my parents are notorious for excelling at diets and then reverting back to their old ways once they achieve some kind of success.

I would not recommend lots of lifestyle stress for weight loss, but I can say it seems to work

I have to call my dad.

also bam it wasn't googleproofing it came out of ppl calling me tehrza and then my mom became momrza but i don't call her that to her face.

I don't want to start fights, and some people will accuse me of being pessimistic or attacking them or being horribly inhumane and have me run up a flagpole, but from everything I can glean about fitness, weight loss, health, happiness, what have you, this seems to be true: any program that focuses on what you eat instead of how much and in what ways you move around is total bullshit.

this has pretty much been my experience, as well.

I could be wrong, though. I completely and totally allow for that. I have never really been significantly overweight.

how is it bullshit? if you consume fewer calories, you will lose weight

this is why people who starve to death get skinny

it's not because they're jogging laps around the concentration camp

at a certain point, if you eat few enough calories, you won't lose weight ... your body will go into "OMG I'm starving" mode and retain everything.

how much and what you eat are both meaningful

The funny thing is that that is frequently untrue up until actual starvation is impending.

xxxxxxxxxxxxxp

adopt the paleo diet
get cardio at least five times a week
eat six times a day, 2-3 hours apart
drink a lot of water

stop drinking

stop eating high fructose corn syrup

stop eating anything in packaging

my point is, it is possible to lose weight based solely on reducing the number of calories you consume

stop eating anything with more than 3 ingredients

"eat plants, mostly"

this thread was funny at first.

nothing funny about obesity

Nick, obviously. But no one is in any danger of starving to death 'round these parts. (Malnourished, maybe, but that's a different discussion.) The reason it's bullshit is because of what I said upthread about how starving yourself is WAY less fun than exercising. Exercising is a much easier habit to form. You get a high off of it, and once you get through an initial wall or two, you might even start to like it. Counting calories just is never going to take, and if you're not exercising enough you're doing yourself no favors anyway.

:( My homemade soup for lunch had more than 3 ingredients.

i think most things i like have more than three ingredients. even most sandwiches!

1 exercise three times a week
2 stop eating when full

you are wrong ian

how many ingredients does broccoli have?

People who don't exercise initially don't like to exercise -- they HATE it. So diet companies exploit that like hell. "Check it out. You don't HAVE to exercise! All you have to do is starve! And here's how kind and thoughtful we are -- we'll even sell you the food!"

stop eating when full is a really important one!

oh i didn't see the "i like" part ian

Well actually technically I think it's "stop eating when you're no longer hungry" and not to wait until you're full. But that's a subjective definition and not rly worth spending screen time on.

eating less =/ starving - a lot of people could lose weight just by cutting out over eating

i went out with a guy and he told me he was fat, then told me i needed to exercise after i told him i weighted 110lbs.

The reason it's bullshit is because of what I said upthread about how starving yourself is WAY less fun than exercising. Exercising is a much easier habit to form. You get a high off of it, and once you get through an initial wall or two, you might even start to like it. Counting calories just is never going to take, and if you're not exercising enough you're doing yourself no favors anyway.

― or have I become completely absurd? (kenan), Tuesday, September 15, 2009 1:21 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

or maybe ... different things work for different people and there isn't one right way to do it?

naw, kenan is right. trying to lose weight on diet alone is retarded.

you have to create a caloric deficit... in a healthy manner. starving is not healthy.

you can succesfully lose weight and not be hungry all day by eating every two hours

yes

my point is, it is possible to lose weight based solely on reducing the number of calories you consume

vs

different things work for different people and there isn't one right way to do it

kenan in save-a-himbo shockah

http://www.avclub.com/articles/kfcs-double-down-sandwich,32804/

http://media.avclub.com/images/articles/article/32804/kfc-doubledown_jpg_595x325_crop_upscale_q85.jpg

try eating your sandwich without the bread.

I think that is three ingredients right there!

kenan in save-a-himbo shockah

:) Yeah, well.

We haven't collectively retired that "shockah" thing yet?

fried chicken + cheese = 2 ingredients

I see bacon

so 3

the sandwich also features "The Colonel's Sauce"

that "chicken" probably has upwards of 20 ingredients

We haven't collectively retired that "shockah" thing yet?

fuck u fattey

i just had a heartattack looking at that thing...

xpost blooouuuurrgh

lost 50 pounds plus by getting diabetes, not drinking, eating 3 reasonable meals, very little extra exercise but walking more

sandwich w/o bread is key

my point is, it is possible to lose weight based solely on reducing the number of calories you consume

vs

different things work for different people and there isn't one right way to do it

― that stupid-ass cannibal pen-pal of yours (Laurel), Tuesday, September 15, 2009 1:28 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

these aren't contradictory, if that's what you're implying. one of the "different things" that might work for "different people" is "solely reducing the number of calories they consume." nice try at the gotcha though

First person to link to thisiswhyyourefat.com should be immediately banned from everything ever

i think we all agree that optimum weight loss plan includes a healthy diet and exercise. i just think it's silly (and inaccurate) to be all dogmatic and say that the only way to lose weight is by exercising.

I think you just think I'm being a dick, when actually I am not.

i think n/a is right--everything i've ever heard or read says basically you have to do both not one or the other

trying to lose weight by "solely reducing the number of calories they consume" is some lazy ass shit. even if you are moderately skinny, you should be getting exercise 3-5x a week.

i'm not trying to be a dick (it just comes naturally)

what about lorax's pork-rind-only plan?

oh i don't think you're being a dick (which is what you're saying)

it will work, but not the way you want it to. you should create a deficit, yes, which also means eating more calories on days you exercise heavily. the 'what you eat doesn't matter' thing can be true - if you're eating a bunch of fat but still in a deficit calorie range, you may lose weight, but my guess is you'd feel like shit all the time, and not have the right energy to exercise or really effect any kind of positive lifestyle change.

Mr. Que I'm gonna start weighing your foods with my new scale!

stop eating anything with more than 3 ingredients? my mind has been blown in a minor and subtle way

my only real point is "different things work for different people," which i already said, so i'll stop now.

stop eating food with only 3 letters, like fat

pie

start smoking

again

do cocaine.

eat only ice

have someone hit you every time you eat

"stop eating anything with more than 3 ingredients? my mind has been blown in a minor and subtle way"

obviously i mean ingredients listed on a package. you can combine as many "1 ingredient" foods as you like on your own

oh, not only should you exercise, but you should cook your own meals too.

but seriously if something was made in a factory and put into a package with 20+ ingredients. you should not be eating that shit.

anyway, cutty's advice seems good. difficult to implement but ultimately worth it obv

do cocaine, smoke, and have someone hit you when you eat.

eat lean meats, vegetables, fruits, and nuts. exercise. repeat.

http://img302.imageshack.us/img302/5828/mcd7vg.jpg

lol hondurian

cuttys advice is more of a master class level healthiness - itll work well but most people have no desire to devote that much time and energy to their fitness routine

not over eating and getting consistent exercise is a good 101 and would go a long way for most people

I thought nuts were fatty? is tht only cashews? they're the best ones tho

it's good fat, eat lots of them

eat almonds they help with the wrinkles

you should eat nuts every day. a nice handful. walnuts being the best, i think.

yeah, i am a nutrition/fitness/health extremist, it's true. mostly absolutes here, and well into OCD territory. but it works.

chin nuts

truck nuts

but i must add:

"but most people have no desire to devote that much time and energy to their fitness routine" has no application when it becomes your lifestyle. it's just how you live and what you do. you don't think about time and energy because it's just the way things are.

damn i wish i was like that, cutty. I just ate some chocolates right now im sooo baaaddd

stop eating chocolates hondurian

can you please list the ingredients?

what about sauces, they usually have multi-ingredients

I have fallen off the fitness/smoking wagon. Climbing back on today. I turn 28 in two weeks and it's scary.

stop eating sauces

even store bought bottled salad dressing has like 30 ingredients

it's all bullshit

sriracha >:(

i know i'm unwanted on fat people/diet/exercise threads but that must be said

― cutty, Tuesday, September 15, 2009 1:22 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

do u ever go out to eat

.. oh crap i would list the ingredients but i ate the wrapper

jajaja.... it was a handful of hershey kisses

salad dressing is for savages

yeah i never use salad dressing

Ingredients: Red Jalapenos, distilled vinegar, garlic, sugar, salt, potassium sorbate and sodium bisulfite as preservatices and xanthan gum.

what about sparks

need 2 start chewing xanthum gum

why is there always that one lady in an office that has the freaking jar of chocolates?! damn them all.

sure, i go out to eat. but i prefer to eat at home. you can control portions and you know exactly what you are eating.

i have no problems ordering off of a menu.

eating out every day makes me feel really salty

i mean, too much. not every day. whatever

i had sriracha today, i'm not a complete nazi

xxpost you mean like a foul-mouthed sailor?

any human diet I find acceptable must allow hot sauce

well this was a good idea

yeah, really sassy xp

tabasco only has three ingredients right

Hot sauce is good for your arteries, I heard. Anyway it's what I choose to believe. Devoutly. I'm not dogmatic about much, but pepper is good for you, and that's that. :)

take a trip to Brookhaven for a day.

you'll never eat again.

i was watching a show about that the other day. i ate the whole time though!

lol!

lmao!

lmao helps me lose weight

yes

I felt seriously accomplished this weekend when I went to a movie at the theater, and only got a small popcorn.

did you get butter?

stop eating movie theater popcorn butter

http://westmariettaneighbor.com/stop_the_madness.jpg

yeah ... but it was a major accomplishment for me, just getting the small one, as opposed to getting a larger size and then eating the whole thing past the point of feeling full because it cost so fucking much, and I'm just sitting there.

ban cutty

come on the large only costs a dollar more and the fake butter is free

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/In_%27house%27_what_is_the_first_name_of_dr._cutty

jesus cutty give it a rest ok

oh please

maybe we should just start a thread where cutty acts as ilx's personal trainer, and it helps us attain our health & fitness goals because we are held accountable to someone

i like my trainer better.

tough love tehresa

also, tough titty

i don't want tough titties

xp tza: but cutty would provide this service for free!

i'd be more than happy to answer people's nutrition and fitness questions on a separate thread. i'm being totally sincere now. goodbye.

positive reinforcement for jobs well done also works!

tehresa, you pay the dude, he's not going to insult you

i, not getting paid, will insult everyone

cutty you can be my personal trainer for free *raise eyebrows*

he could insult me. it could also be motivating!

lol @ cutty leaving in a huff because ppl got mad when he told them to not eat movie theater popcorn.

i hadn't eaten movie theater butter in almost a year, btw.

i mean really guys

http://www.simplefit.org

srsly

let's think of more fun ways for strongo to lose weight without diet or exercise.

have someone punch your chest a lot - might toughen up those pecs, dude!

he could become a prostitute

you know humiliation is really modivating.

Can we have an I Love Being Fit or I Love Being Healthy or something? Lots of ILX talk on self-improvement lately.

re: diet/exercise. Exercise generally isn't that effective at losing weight by itself.

let's think of more fun ways for strongo to lose weight without diet or exercise.

Sex addiction?

big thing abt this in a newsweek i read recently at a dr's office iirc

xp

http://www.thedailyplate.com/nutrition-calories/food/generic/large-movie-theater-popcorn-with-butter

You could burn off the 1,640 calories from this Large Movie Theater Popcorn With Butter in a variety of ways:

Farming - irrigation work for 599 minutes

Truck driving: loading and unloading truck for 172 minutes

Shot Put for 375 minutes

Tip: Try one of these other items instead of the Large Movie Theater Popcorn With Butter to consume fewer calories.

No healthy alternatives are available for this item yet.

lol

would walking 6 miles and then 6 miles back to the closest movie theater to buy a tub of popcorn defeat the point?

lol this is the thing--u don't need to know the calories to know that eating movie theater popcorn with butter is not a good nutritional idea!

man shotputting for 6+ hours--and for what? buttery goodness

destroyer--i don't think many people DO know that.

i think they do, they just don't give a shit

at these moments i like to think about morbidly obese people who've contributed a lot to our world and seem pretty contented

god damn i try not to be all "ppl are dumb" but holy shit how can you avoid this knowledge

please make a list, strongo, i'm struggling here

i thought it was pretty common knowledge since like oprah did an expose in 1992 or something

1. santa claus

2. dave thomas from pere ubu

3. dave thomas from wendy's

I can't eat the movie theatre "butter", it makes me violently ill. Seriously. I think it's gonna be good, but then I suffer and suffer and suffer and it's SO not as much fun as even the worst kind of exercise.

What IS the worst kind of exercise?

4. notorious b.i.g. (pre-1996)

you son, are no notorious BIG

5. Ricki Lake in Hairspray

well i'm also not morbidly obese, so the comparison is kinda moot

6. John Goodman

thing is no one eats movie theater popcorn enough for it to make a difference - its eating things like movie theater popcorn all the time that fucks you up - this is why i have no problem eating the movie theater popcorn w/the fake butter when i get the chance

7. john candy in uncle buck

7. john candy xpost weird

What IS the worst kind of exercise?

6 months ago i would have said running but now i don't know!

8. the kingpin from daredevil

9. pig champion

10. the mom in what's eating gilbert grape

yeah i mean i have it like once a year but i am fully aware of the consequences--the thought that ppl are not is scary and calls all their eating decisions into question.

funny all these people are dead.

People who lose weight by eating less but don't exercise get to keep that delightfully soft and doughy look no matter how much weight they lose. This may be fine for you or for some people, but I'm doughy enough as it is and I do a reasonable-if-not-extreme amount of strength training already. Brought to mind by someone I know who is spindly in the arms and legs and doesn't need to "lose weight" per se but has no strength at all.

11 a pig

xxp hahahahahhaha

i'm eating a bowl full of Count Chocula right now, topped with maple syrup--it's delicious and good for me, too

hey hey my my
Santa Claus will never die

today i have eaten a whole wheat bagel w/lowfat cream cheese, a clif bar, and a banana

i am going to go borrow my friend's car to drive a half mile to buy a pizza.

for breakfast this morning i had chicken nuggets and a slice of whole wheat toast

Movie theater popcorn always leaves me feeling weird even without butter. I assume it's the ungodly amounts of sodium.

Best exercise: deadlifting. There is something really satisfying about picking up heavy stuff.

I've had two cups of coffee and seven cigarettes ...

make sure to get extra meat and cheese-stuffed crust!
xpost

today i've had a bagel, two cups of coffee, a pack of smokes, and a margarita.

^^ this is pretty close to my diet.

today i have had 1 cup of soy milk and 1 serving of protein powder (blended), 2 cups of coffee with splash of soy milk, and now i am eating some puffins. i have an apple and some salmon for lunch that i'm looking forward to :)

What's a clif bar, it sounds like candy. I think I want candy right now.

SO, hey, do any of you ever worry about getting hypoglycemia or diabetes even if you're not fat at all? Every once in a while this comes up for me, and I think, Maybe I shouldn't drink so much OJ.

Teresa!! That is crazy healthy! Good for you, Seattlite.

i dont eat breakfast. i binged on mexican food, took a nap under my desk cause i felt hungover from the extended football party on sunday, then drank 3 cups of coffee with my chocolates.

cutting out drinks thatre not water is a good weight loss tip

protein in the morning has really made a difference in my life. i used to drink coffee all day til like 3pm when i was like 'oh shit i'm going to pass out now maybe i should eat something.'

a clif bar is an energy bar with a good-enough combination of fat, fiber, protein, and taste/texture

Re diabetes: no, because I don't eat as much sugar as I think a lot of people do (judging by my roommate and everyone else I know who likes sweets). If anything kills me, it will be animals fats or cholesterol or, quite frankly the most likely cause, lung cancer.

Protein: My favorite!!

yah ppl eat breakfast it is your friend!!

if i post what ive eaten today you will all hate me more

NUTS!

do it

mom-el would routinely threaten the spectre of type 2 diabetes when I told her (all proud) that I was drinking a lot of fruit juice ... this was a couple years ago. I think there have been a few trendy diseases she's gotten worried about in the meantime.

how does a cutty feel abt protein powder given his stated objections to processed foods

I am in love with beer, but I am also in love with water flavored w a little lime juice and a little bit of simple syrup (sugar + water). Juice of 1 lime + about two teaspoons of syrup + 16 oz of ice water = the thing I have craved about 300% more than anything else this summer.

I think I'm going to have one of these for breakfast soon

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZ08bD6yJac

but seriously if something was made in a factory and put into a package with 20+ ingredients. you should not be eating that shit.

see I know of like zero actual evidence to support this.

CUTTY USE ONE PUBMED

apricot clif bars are soooo good

my grandmother and uncle were both diabetic. my aunt had gestational diabetes. my mother monitors her glucose levels to be safe, but is not yet diabetic (she sometimes sees scary levels, usually when very stressed or not eating healthy). it is in the back of my mind a lot, but i'm not super concerned... yet...

no one in my family has been diabetic in recent memory; also generally low cholesterol and low blood pressure, even the members that are fat.

SO FAR:

whey protein shake, banana, almond butter, agave
oatmeal w/ strawberries, blueberries, raisins

whole-o's gluten free cereal with almond milk, baby carrots, and 2 hard boiled eggs

two romaine leaves with turkey wrapped inside, an apple

salad with tomato, cucumber, sardines and sriracha

walnuts and an orange

wth is wrong with you cutty

I don't even know why ppl are posting what they've consumed today but I'm going to join in because why the hell not.

1 liter H2O
2 lg. ice coffees
1 healthy choice frozen no preservative "healthy" frozen thing
1 healthy valley granola bar
1 cigarette

today's food/drink:

glass of "oj"
ham and jarlsberg baguette
apple
can of coke
barbecue hula hoops
banana
2 pecan cookies
a few cups of water
slice of leftover pizza
chicken goujons
tuscan bean stew + garlic flatbread
(+ should use up that milk before bed...)

this is a pretty good day for me tbh. i'm a dough fiend.

what kinda protein powder u use, cutts?

wth is wrong with you cutty

i rode my bike 2 hours this AM then rode my bike to work

oh and a half of Leffe in the pub on the way home because it was raining hard xp

i use bluebonnet "whey protein isolate"

barbecue hula hoops

wtf?

Cutty's day o food sounds good. I've been assembling my own breakfasts at work, and even tho I'm still eating cream cheese and coffee w milk & sugar, I lose weight just by regulating my own portions and adding more kinds of veg for flavor and variety (tomatoes, scallions, lettuce, stuff).

ENBB, i see you like things with healthy in the name

i have been using designer whey protein bc they have it at trader joe's and the trader joe's brand has wheat in it but it seems too sweet.

I love hula hoops but I like the plain ones best.

Tza they're english chip like snack foods shaped like rings.

I thikn I wd die without tomatoes. I probably eat them at least twice a day.

cutty serious question--how long have you been eating aggressively healthfully? did u find it difficult to get into habits of eating like that? lots of trial/error or what? anything you basically gave up that was hard?

askin because i would honestly love to eat like that but really don't think i can consistently at all.

ENBB, i see you like things with healthy in the name

― cutty, Tuesday, September 15, 2009 3:50 PM (37 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

I do - it makes me feel like I'm actually eating stuff that is good for me.

thank god im 26 and havent lost my metabolism

what did you eat today?

i think i eat kind of like cutty but i don't feel like it's i have to try at it? i guess you just kind of do it xxxp

-it's

xp hondurian: mine slowed down at 30.

no protein powder though xp

Stop eating bread.

Okay, that's totally RONG. Stop eating white bread would be right, but dark/brown bread is GREAT for you. It has slow sugars (and if you like going to the loo regularly, you'll find that bread helps in that dep too). My dietician actually demanded I eat bread (after I told her I didn't much do/like it). It helps to avoid the sugar cravings in the evenings.

Why does it seem like Cutty will one day lose it: go on this massive fatty spree and stuff his face full of calories?

eh if i didn't "try" at eating it would be carb city and i would be fuckin huge as opposed to slightly bigger than i would like

i go on a periodic fatty spree but tbh it makes me feel like shit

yeah but i mean after a while you don't even think about it. i dunno.

It I didn't "try" at eating I'd be like this.

i also have an abiding love for salty, crunchy snacks that is unlikely to leave me ever

i ate really crappy for a few days bc they kept feeding us lunch at work and it made me feel really, really bad, which, in a way, was really great for keeping me on track with my current plan.

destroyer:

i have been refining the eating since 2007 when i stopped drinking and drugging.

i don't have to think about it or "try" anything. i go food shopping and my cart is filled with vegetables and fruits. it sounds like some of you don't even have a fruit bowl in your kitchen. or make it to 4pm without ingesting a single piece of fruit or veg.

actually feeling pretty good about the fact that I can't eat as much dairy and oil/grease as I used to.

k try was the wrong word. i guess at the beginning you do but i don't feel very "aggressive" about it is all

so many people think i'm like suffering by eating healthy? like stevienixed above. i have no urge to eat digusting processed food.

Some whole grains are good. But in general, those are still high-carb/calorie-dense foods - you have to be careful about the amount you eat, and personally I don't find them filling. I love rice to death, but if I eat my fill I'm way overdoing it on calories.

High-protein and high-fat foods leave you full longer, and leafy vegetables with a lot of fiber can be eaten in large quantities without as much of a calorie hit (if you're okay eating dry arugula).

yeah, same here. i don't even notice it until someone else points it out either. xp

I freaked out when I realized that the Uncle Bens' 90-second bags I ate with steak and chicken had two servings of 250+ calories apiece.

I feel no guilt about my diet, tho it is embarrassing when I'm doing an in-between small grocery run like the other day, where I bought a 12-pack of beer, a fifth of Maker's Mark, 4 12-packs of soda (gotta stock up on the sales) and some leeks. I want to tell the cashier I have all the good food at home.

Overall I eat pretty well but I really don't think there is anything wrong with spluring once in a while and would be extremely sad if I had to give that up forever. The pecan sticky roll I had at brunch on Sunday was incredible and so worth whatever miniscule amount of damage it might have done me in the long run.

bread is useless. there is zero nutritional value in bread.

whats a good wine?

i could do happily cutty's diet if i was single and had no friends, but cooking/potlucks/going out to eat and drink is a pretty integral part of my social life.

(not saying cutty has no friends btw)

But there are calories in bread.

so many people think i'm like suffering by eating healthy? like stevienixed above. i have no urge to eat digusting processed food.

I don't think you're suffering, just brainwashed and a bit alienating yourself. I agree with you up to a point, but it's a... confining life. Do you ever go out and have a meal without pointing at the sauce and saying: "EK, this has E4958, so bad for you!" IF not, ignore and proceed to expand on the joys of a pure life.

1. bowl of Life cereal, whole milk
2. PBJ
3. Turkey sandwich (both on whole wheat)

On my way to the grocery to snag a nice piece of meat to cook up with some rice and something green. And butter.

bread makes sandwiches and pizza possible!

and btw there is usually very healthy, non-processed food at the weekly potluck i go to for example, i just end up eating a ton of it.

BREAD IS USELESS

xxpost That's all you ate? No wonder you look so skinny, Kenan! Dude, I have to admit, you looked better (in my opinion!) with a little more weight on you. But that's me..

I don't get it. What is wrong with the calories in bread?

in real life, i don't preach or soapbox any of this shit unless someone wants to talk about it. also, i'm a very happy person because of my lifestyle choices, not despite them.

BREAD IS USELESS

― congratulations (n/a), Tuesday, September 15, 2009 8:05 PM (49 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

x-posts Bread is one of the most amazing things in the world! I wouldn't want to live an existence in which I didn't think bread was awesome. I don't know. It just seems like it must be really boring to look at food in such a clinical way all the time.

seriously whats a good wine im drinking again tonight and I need to make an impression.

Maybe clinical is the wrong word but you know what I mean.

bread is kind of useless if you would like to lose weight

xp - I would guess that he goes out and eats and doesn't have the sauce (which, if it's highly-processed, probably tastes like ass anyway). If you're eating at 'good' places, eating healthy isn't that hard. Everyone has steamed veggies, meat and salad. 'Foodie' cooking is, itself, pretty healthy.

I don't get it. What is wrong with the calories in bread?

― bamcquern, Tuesday, September 15, 2009 3:05 PM (23 seconds ago) Bookmark

You guys are just effing with me.

Don't want to lose weight.

bamcquern, there are calories in bread, with little to no nutritional value. there's no nutrients. it's empty. devoid of anything.

you want to eat moderate amounts of nutrient DENSE foods to stay healthy.

bread is useful for losing weight, if you're using it replace doritos, pringles, and other greasy snack food.

how many hours are you into ur day cutty! my goodness

I know people who can't eat a meal w/o bread, even if that meal is PASTA.

it's 4pm here.

"eat plants, mostly"

― cutty, Tuesday, September 15, 2009 2:18 PM

smoke plants everyday

guys guys we don't need to argue about whether or not bread is good

xxspot sarahel is my dietician as she said the exact same thing. also, uh, like i said: the toilet.

i like bread ok but it takes me like a month to go through a loaf :-/

i can imagine, after a week mine is rock solid

cutty make a nutrition nazi thread, i want 2 read and learn from u

kept in the freezer!

lol you can get all the fiber you need from fruits and veg

I have had two cups of coffee, 1 bowl of porridge w/salt, 1 peppermint tea, 4 glasses of water, bean and cabbage stew

Yah, bread in freezer! Toast 1 or 2 slices as desired! I buy nice whole-wheat sourdough and keep it for ages this way.

i wonder how strongo's pizza is?

Wow, never realized this. But we have a very bread orientated... eating culture. Our family (of four) goes through a bread per day.

seconding am0n's call for nutrition nazi thread, we can all grow and learn from cutty together like a family

whole-wheat sourdough is my favorite.

*sigh*

revive a wine thread, hondurian; these peeps want to talk about 'nutrition'

that is my nutrition

lol sorry

you people are making me feel like i need to go on some tlc "i'm addicted to carbs" reality show.

strongo got a sandwich instead. he also got a free girlie calendar with his sandwich.

That will help you work off the calories.?

this was my thought, yes

Has anyone read Gary Taubes' "Good Calories, Bad Calories" - I'm all for challenging the high-carb wisdom, but his premise sounds kind of ridiculous to me.

what is miss september like?

in real life, i don't preach or soapbox any of this shit unless someone wants to talk about it. also, i'm a very happy person because of my lifestyle choices, not despite them.

― cutty, Tuesday, September 15, 2009 4:05 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

this is a good point - from the materialistic outlook pleasure is derived from having things like fancy shoes or decadent food - imo disciplined action is actually a more effective cause of happiness than owning anything in particular

of course people can get v strange and materialistic abt their disciplines - see the typical health freak stereotype - if one can keep from being dogmatic and uptight abt it eating healthy and getting tons of exercise is prob quite joyful

miss september is leann from egg harbor, nj. she is a blonde who looks like she doesn't eat too many sandwiches.

i've felt so much better since i started exercising regularly.

well after dating a guy that has his own personal trainer and thinks its okay to comment on my "flabbyness" when im naked has kind of modivated me to work out.

yeah i should note that up until about july i was walking like 6 to 10 miles daily, working out, and generally watching what i eat. i DO feel like shit since i stopped. but it's become one of those "have to get over the hump of not wanting to start again" deals.

That would motivate me to dump him. Then possib to work out.

i know hes sucha ass

you shouldn't let any asshole say shit like that to you. if you feel like you should work out, go for it. you'll feel better and then maybe not go out with jerks who would be so rude.

i want someone to love my flab

i went out with a guy and he told me he was fat, then told me i needed to exercise after i told him i weighted 110lbs.

― hondurian, Tuesday, September 15, 2009 1:25 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark

obvs this person is crazy and should not motivate you to do anything but vow to never date dudes that shitty ever again
one more comment about flab and i'm gonna sb you unless you are 4 ft tall or something

i am not sure i would date a woman who weight 110 lbs for fear of breaking something important.

lol k

In general I find it's best to avoid people who are too committed to personal goals and/or extreme lifestyles. They're just not going to be very understanding about my/your personal lazinesses and favorite issues.

basically anyone who stages an asshole intervention for any activity that's not actively going to kill me needs to stfu.

likewise, anyone who constantly complains about their fitness and then bitches when you won't take them out for tacos is probably not on the right course

i don't htink there's anything wrong with being committed to effecting a positive change in your life, but the key is, like cutty said, to not be preachy unless someone asks.

Has anyone read Gary Taubes' "Good Calories, Bad Calories" - I'm all for challenging the high-carb wisdom, but his premise sounds kind of ridiculous to me.

I was reading it, but it was kind of freaking me out, so I put it aside for awhile.