Thatcher dead!!!!

Poor Denis. Married to her he must've needed to drink a lot.

what's your deal?

It wasn't me who did the initial revival of Thatcher threads.

that is actually preschool-level reasoning

louis j4gger, british nationalist.

ok where did that come from

OK, now she really is.

Not this Thatcher...

I should have re-named my cat Thatcher, that is more in keeping with his evil.

was just comin to post this

She made Canada relevant again.

(was the cat a he or she? not clear)

RIP

i wondered why grimly called me saying get ready for the conga down to london and to keep bladder full when we get there.

seeing this thread revived gives false hope. can't wait till i can click it and celebrate, possibly with a nice glass of cheap bubbly.

She's going to do a Reagan just before the election, I betcha.

hating thatcher still a 'thing', in other news.

Dimitri Soudas shoots from the hip, darraghmac

the iron moggy

Awaiting Moggy Thatcher headline

Never did any good for the paw.

damn how'd i miss moggy thatcher

Milk snatcher.

She was only a mouser's daughter

you purr if you want to

on behalf of Canada and our stupid government - i would like to apologize for the confusion caused by our government's stupidity.

So, how is Chairman Meow thesedays?

A whisker away from death

Elvis Costello puts wellies away for another year.

At this rate, Thatcher is going to be urinating on his grave.

is the part where it says "sparks fears" a joke?

"'Thatcher dead' text sparks fears" "'Thatcher dead' text sparks fears, joy"

fixed.

?

hmm spoofed by a ghost wolf in a sky news tweet

Yeah, fake Sky News account, apparently.

Fake Sky news account. Put the champagne away for now.

oh look, no xpost notifications for me.

jesus, don't get our hopes up like this!

Still enjoying the initial endophin rush, actually

Trying to start a 'Bradley Wiggins celebrates the death of Thatcher' fake RT going round now. Ah, twitter.

one day this thread will deliver

unless she kills you first

lol

O_O

IT'S TRUE IT'S FINALLY TRUE.

https://twitter.com/Channel4News/status/321228442475569152

it gives me great joy to have been able to break this news to ilx.

Bold prediction: this will the most popular thread in ILX history.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-22067155

Not turning the TV on for a fortnight.

This is probably literally the worst time for this to happen.

Fifth!

Last thing we want is ANY smidgeon of tory sympathy.

(sharpens F5 finger)

oh thank you britain, thank you for putting a lovely happy end on such a horribly shit day

i heart you i heart you

http://www.isthatcherdeadyet.co.uk/

maracas.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pf4kQA9q6tU

1 month of boring news coming up.
Times like this I'm glad I don't have a TV.

Universal celebrations going on right now, feels weird/gr8 to rejoice over someone's death

Scotland is partying hard. That evil cunt better not get a state funeral. Hope she's burning in hell.

This is probably literally the worst time for this to happen.

Agreed. Don't want to think about how much taxpayer's money is going to be wasted.

http://press.take88.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/Screen-shot-2010-11-19-at-11.25.55-AM.png

*punches air*

I'm off to drink a shitload of booze on behalf of the North-East and myself! :D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hI1nPd7hezM

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3233/2729654002_8039f300e1.jpg

the reason it doesn't feel apt to celebrate is because she's far from dead, politically

as long as the Labour party is run by Thatcherites she'll be smiling down from heaven

lex, now would be a great time to stop hating fun

just for a day

I was a little uneasy how readily people celebrated the death of Bin Laden, but

a) he was assassinated in a revenge mission, not allowed to die naturally
b) he was a byproduct of a system which Thatcher helped to run

so yeah, go wild folks

the worst of all days to work in a stockbrokers...

Her and Jimmy Saville finally reunited. Almost feel nostalgic for the 80s because the current incumbents are so much more odious and craven than her. She'd probably be considered a wet now.

I don't know about more odious and craven, but certainly the current lot are less able to hide it.

sceptics must recognise that this is probably the last moment of collective joy that we'll ever see. let us have it.

Let's predict the thousandth new answer. I reckon it'll be Shakey Mo Collier posting "GET THE FUCK IN" for the sixtieth time

As soon as I heard I came here, I knew this was a long awaited event on ilx.

Never met her but RIP.

I don't even really know that much about her or British politics in general, but I just bombed my facebook newsfeed with Exploited songs.

looks like i picked the wrong day to give up ilxing

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-ySU8d6P3RnU/UC5QTxknouI/AAAAAAAABG8/cwLHslyvSO4/s1600/Victory-Through-Jesus.jpg

Not turning the TV on for a fortnight.

^this

Am prepared to be arrested to disrupt a state funeral should the cunts give her one

hope it's a cremation, failing that probly best stuff the mouth with garlic to be on the safe side

I feel faintly underwhelmed by this, if only because last week felt like the most grimly depressing week I can remember in British political discourse.

I hope this thread won't disappoint though.

god bless all here

xxp In other news: wooden stake shortage

not even gonna front like

got to say this is the best Chumbawamba record i've ever listened to

had to log in at work and everything

its very hot where she's going. they better cremate her because millions of people want to piss on her grave

lex, Scik, MDC otm; but, Merdeyeux also otm

(sharpens maracas and F5 finger)

Ball bearings under the horses' hooves in the funeral cortege? That's an old trick but a good one.

harsh on the horse

Finally, a stroke of luck

Will this be for britishes what Ronnie's death was nine years ago: an orgy of mourning?

but I just bombed my facebook newsfeed with Exploited songs.

Good work, son

How does the public regard her now?

last week felt like the most grimly depressing week I can remember in British political discourse

That Thatcher's death happens on the same day that changes to disability benefits come into effect (probably shafting thousands of people) means that the latter isn't going to get the discussion it deserves.

oh there'll be some sort of orgy

Well, after the spike in government spending for the state funeral, that'll be £500,000 a year savings to the taxpayer.

How does the public regard her now?

many will mourn her. i vote we hang them.

Haha a mate of mine is Sunderland today for the first time ever and what amazing timing.

BBC Radio 5 live ‏@bbc5live 5m

Downing Street confirms funeral status for Lady #Thatcher will be the same as Queen Mother & Princess Diana. Listen:http://bbc.in/JchwGv

Pro tips

http://www.streetparty.org.uk/residents/

That Thatcher's death happens on the same day that changes to disability benefits come into effect (probably shafting thousands of people) means that the latter isn't going to get the discussion it deserves.

― Will you see a political publicity stunt? (snoball), Monday, 8 April 2013 12:25 (59 seconds ago)

it's what she would have wanted

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5grN83P-jC4

Will this be for britishes what Ronnie's death was nine years ago: an orgy of mourning?

Reagan not comparable I think.

she went quick in the end

Fucking over vulnerable members of society, even from beyond the grave.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-pap5QeA_BHs/UArYxheDa3I/AAAAAAAAAYw/AQMuFkMTF2I/s1600/Ken_Loach.jpg

Quicker than the hunger strikers, for sure (xxp)

Should I watch itv news now or will it make me angry in this time of joy?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iw9zbTsKNAA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGxsLbK9F0A

ITV News makes me angry at any time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLHc-yIAPbg

Haha a mate of mine is Sunderland today for the first time ever and what amazing timing

???

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A23PQCndPYU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-4FJcnX0i8

There's a lot of places that will be rejoicing today but Sunderland strikes me as a good one.

Fireworks going off in Glasgow apparently.

Can't begin to tell you how incandescently angry it made my dad to hear her quote Francis of Assisi

I am ready to hurl something at my screen when the tributes start rolling in from Miliband and Blair by the way.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EJDuchIBkQ&feature=youtu.be

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bJbeeKBPCU

Fireworks going off in Glasgow apparently.

Alex Salmond should say something like 'if you think this party is big, wait until you see the one after we get full independence from these fuckers!'

The Queen is sad to hear the news of the death of Baroness Thatcher, Buckingham Palace says

I'll bet, she couldn't stand the woman

Looks like a big expensive funeral coming up

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22066982

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAga3ZQ0BxU

i'm very sad i can't be in scotland for the inauguration of our new national holiday.

xxxp 'Dammit Phileeep, I wanted to be there!'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-BZIWSI5UQ

I am ready to hurl something at my screen when the tributes start rolling in from Miliband and Blair by the way.

― Matt DC, 08 April 2013 12:33 (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

you still won't see it

Her supporters believe she transformed the nation - attempting to release the grip of the state

Guests in the itv news studio: kelvin mackenzie and anne widdecombe.

Former US secretary of state Henry Kissinger tells the BBC Baroness Thatcher was a "great leader" and a "good friend of the US". He said he found her a "warm person however forcefully she defended her views". - Praise from Caesar

https://twitter.com/search?q=%22who%20is%20margaret%20thatcher%22&src=typd

https://twitter.com/fieldproducer/status/321236023248035842

Kelvin defending the poor white working man.

Should switch off before I start throwing things.

Who let that cunt back on our screens?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_sY2rjxq6M

http://i.imgur.com/cgNBTu0.jpg

ATOS have passed her fit to work

Ceremonial funeral with full military honours.

(many xps) "Warm" is not a word I expected to hear even from those who liked her.

I made the mistake of looking at the "Thatcher dead" thread on a different messageboard. That's it, I'm staying on ILX for the rest of the day.

Did the Queen really dislike her? This is pleasing. Too bad she still seems happy w/ DCam. (Too lazy to look up the exact family connection, but I am aware of it)

^^^ LOL xxpost

haaaa AG

(lols at ATOS and twitter pics)

Political assassinations generally make no real change, but as with Reagan I'd have made an exception in her case.

Kelvin saying feminists should weep she is gone!!!! Aaragghgyigiugerjkgsr,bbcsgdguoga93)@£/;?

Did the Queen really dislike her?

Apparently she thought she was being cruel and heartless towards her poor subjects and fomenting unrest. Anyway, can you imagine any normal person liking Margaret Thatcher?

Haha a mate of mine is Sunderland today for the first time ever and what amazing timing.

― Matt DC, Monday, April 8, 2013 12:26 PM (17 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

hahahahaha!!

I understand that the Queen is privately generally not down with poor-bashing policies and disliked Thatcher as a result, although probably for other reasons as well.

That five-year fixed term Parliament is starting to look a blessing in disguise because if D-Cam were to call an election tomorrow he'd win it.

queen ≠ normal person

jesus christ, ilx is going to melt down today

I hear Stalin is still highly regarded in Russia too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFPLk5mJ1D4

will ye hop when the queen goes lads

apparently the #nowthatchersdead hashtag has people thinking that cher's dead

Germaine Greer's 2009 profile is a fab read.

Have you heard, that Cher's dead?

will ye hop when the queen goes lads

No comparison, mate

will they dare have a minutes silence or applause at tonights manchester derby?

Ah! That's a great question!

applause for god

If only it had been a game at Anfield on TV

If she was really comparable to the Queen or even Di, then they'd do it at all grounds on Saturday, they wouldn't dare though

ffs whenever this thread gets revived it makes me think she's actually died and th

people on twitter demanding respect because she was a real person with a real family in mourning

how many tens of millions of people's lives does one have to ruin before joy is an acceptable response? for fuck's sake

hitler had a family

http://i.imgur.com/IiJtGnB.jpg

otfm xp

went to vandalise Guido Fawkes' blog and some cunt's already done it

people on twitter demanding respect because she was a real person with a real family in mourning

OK, sorry Carol. Fuck off, Mark.

God you can just imagine Mancini standing there hanging his head piously.

Good old socialist Fergie has many years' experience playing the quisling fuck obviously.

people on twitter demanding respect because she was a real person with a real family in mourning

Can't think of a family that deserves less respect tbh.

BBC News website is kind of borked atm unless you have a large screen.

Itv reporter thinks people all over the country will ignore their differences in order to come together in mourning.

was it carol thatcher who wanked off that pig, or was that someone else

#nostatefuneral is trending now

Fuck off, Mark.

The one tiny microscopic bit of humanity in Thatcher's flinty heart: even she thought that Mark was a twunt

howard wasn't half as bad as thatcher and like fuck i'll be respecting his death either

no-one really hates the Queen for any reason other than she's the Queen afaik

Surprisingly accurate:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A_OtTeVCcAEjsAi.jpg:large

it's not gloating, it's unbridled joy

http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/45966

no-one really hates the Queen for any reason other than she's the Queen afaik

and there are probably more reasons to hate those next in line, so yeah...

Charles is an arse though

RT @JAdomian Condolences to the Iron Sheik on the death of his wife the Iron Lady.

refused to vote for anything that used "Maggie"

seriously guys, can we organise a "make Russ Abbot's 'Atmosphere' number 1 this week" meme?

In other news, Pete Wylie a shoo-in for number one this week?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcXi-VYy_Yw

@blakehounshell 3m
Delicious irony that Thatcher is getting a funeral provided by the state.

people on twitter demanding respect because she was a real person with a real family in mourning

how many tens of millions of people's lives does one have to ruin before joy is an acceptable response? for fuck's sake

― Let's Make Laugh II (Autumn Almanac), Monday, 8 April 2013 12:52 (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

feel like a lot of ppl have really unbendable ideas about the... sanctity of death I guess you'd call it, where it absolutely overrides whatever they did in life. hasten to add I'm not one of them

Simon Price ‏@simon_price01 11m

"There is no such thing as society" - Margaret Thatcher. "There is no such thing as Margaret Thatcher" - Society.

high-five to the britishes, you guys really fuckin' hated her huh

we told you so

Just give them this day imo.

Unfortunately as a nation we didn't hate her enough to not vote for her in the 80's.

so glad the guy in my office i shared the news with did a fist punch cuz most other people are being very BBC about it all

kinda don't understand the joy, as the damage is done and apparently unfixable. Badly needed shooting in '79.

Ditto Reagan. Can't unkill millions of dead gays.

Yeah, my perspecktive to. (xpost)

apparently the #nowthatchersdead hashtag has people thinking that cher's dead

Okay crying with laughter here

Thatcher was the product of wider historical forces, if you'd shot her in 79 then someone else like her would have been put into power.

More important than joy is a loud and relentless pushback on the impending canonisation.

I know some ppl feel like celebrating now but this is ridiculous:

http://i.imgur.com/VRvMXon.jpg

welp Matt, I thought her influence was at least partly Cult of Personality. (Reaganism wd've been somewhat derailed if Bush the Father had ascended early.)

Man 'took 40,000 ecstasy tablets'

Bit of a waste as this is one of the times you don't need to take drugs to feel good.

feel like a lot of ppl have really unbendable ideas about the... sanctity of death I guess you'd call it, where it absolutely overrides whatever they did in life. hasten to add I'm not one of them

otm. if you use your life to deliberately and knowingly cause untold misery to millions, fuck you and any sanctity you think your death deserves

If someone could photoshop me a picture of a coffin mounted on a cruise missile speeding towards the fiery gates of hell captioned with "margaret thatcher, comin' atcha!", that would be grand.

xposts I looked at the top stories earlier and the one under all the Thatcher ones was about milk rationing. Timing, eh?

just read that hell has been privatised

the jokes are, just on this occasion, delicious

Whining neo-liberals are already crying misogyny and telling people they shouldn't be happy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwnkFlVRCZc

*mosh* *mosh* *mosh*

i don't like all this "burn in hell" stuff tho, that's painting god as some kind of vengeful, Tebbit-esque figure

Whining neo-liberals

Oh, this is def going to be a popcorn.gif kind of day.

speaking of whom, dear god do i wanna see a Tebbitcrying.jpeg

now that v/vm single can finally come out

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/00/President_Reagan_and_Prime_Minister_Margaret_Thatcher_at_Camp_David_1986.jpg

Apparently Ken Livingstone just got thrown off Sky News?

Norman Tebbit is 82. just saying.

Interesting.

painting god as some kind of vengeful, Tebbit-esque figure

xp 'Christ didn't riot. He got on his bike and looked for work, and he kept looking till he found it. Christ on a bike!'

'Almost everything that is wrong in Britain today is also her legacy.' That got him thrown off according to Twitter.

Newt-lover OTM

Gawd bless you, Red Ken.

Sky News, fair and balanced

'Almost everything that is wrong in Britain today is also her legacy.' That got him thrown off according to Twitter.

yeah well sky news

of course Ken had personal beef with Maggie, what with her closing down the GLC. Doesn't stop him being right.

Whining neo-liberals are already crying misogyny and telling people they shouldn't be happy.

fairly sure being just as angry when a shit woman dies is the pinnacle of gender equality

hopefully now murdoch cries himself to death

fucker

the jokes are, just on this occasion, delicious

― Let's Make Laugh II (Autumn Almanac), Monday, April 8, 2013 2:18 PM (7 minutes ago)

Just wait until Gary Glitter dies.

far out

i should have been in bed an hour ago but this joy is rarer than halley's comet

Milliband's statement is... not nearly as bad as I feared.

morbs otm. damage done.

"Margaret Thatcher Dies; Remade Britain"

the new york times has such weird headlines

http://i.imgur.com/VRvMXon.jpg

'Live: Baroness Thatcher Dies' is a webcast right?

xxp keeping it short probably a good idea

This is Britain's Stonewall, right?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Section_28

one D Cameron a supporter of Section 28, as we should never tire of pointing out

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BHVO7iqCQAAIbSd.png

i'm so excited for u uk guys - i kno how big a deal this is and all that.

the bbc this morning had bunches of ppl talking about how great thatcher was and how important she was to making the UK market competitive again, even tho sometimes she wasn't so sensitive.

https://www.facebook.com/events/650707421611923/

'Live: Baroness Thatcher Dies' is a webcast right?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=oWbiWLcAbQY

http://youtu.be/oWbiWLcAbQY

this thread is a pure delight, thank you everyone, i'm not even british but this is a well-needed inoculation of glee against the thudding parade of nefarious 'mournful tribute crap' i'm going to have to encounter soon

only statement EMil shd have made is no statement

xpost yes, let's do this again when kissinger kicks

http://www.broadsheet.ie/2013/04/08/the-wait-is-over/

pretty sure Kissinger's already dead

first time i've felt any anglo-irish agreement on ilx politics in some time, gawd bless you maggie

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36gW-IPV0aA

Newt Gingrich ‏@newtgingrich 5m
Margaret Thatcher, Pope John Paul and Ronald Reagan changed history. The world would be a much different place without them.

haha this is the best you can do newt, these are your people

pretty sure Kissinger's already dead

― https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GwjfUFyY6M (Noodle Vague), Monday, April 8, 2013 9:38 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Did he die today too?

http://ruvr.co.uk/2013_04_08/Its-a-tragedy-she-ever-came-to-power-Livingstone/

banner day for ken

To be fair he's probably been rehearsing this in his head for 25 years.

#nostatefuneral trending above "Margaret Thatcher" and "Prime Minister" on UK twitter (also above Tony Blair (and Cher))

The one time I can stand to listen to this song...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=co6WMzDOh1o

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37Cmzvt549Y&feature=youtu.be

got told to grow up by some woman on Facebook, sadface

"our suicide rate's gone up since the financial crisis... all the freedom she gave bankers which they abused..."

hope ken didnt rehearse this pearl of insight

many xps - initially read 'Livingstone: Voice of Russia' as a Tory broadside there

#nostatefuneral trending above "Margaret Thatcher" and "Prime Minister" on UK twitter

Bit of a waste of time, this, as it's already been announced the old bat won't be getting one.

i guess this is a bad day for my trolling 'thatcher was good for england' thread

well you can go for it, Mordy, but we'll be too busy laughing to get real worked up about it

Bit of a waste of time, this, as it's already been announced the old bat won't be getting one.

― my father will guide me up the stairs to bed (anagram), Monday, April 8, 2013 2:48 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

This is what I thought, but I keep hearing conflicting things. Have you got a link to hand?

now i'll have to wait a few years until the joy wears off

incidentally she was terrible for this country by almost any measure, i think. her government destroyed the manufacturing base in this country in a fashion unparalleled by other monetarist-influenced govs like Reagan's or Kohl's.

try decades

What politician/celebrity/famous person do you think had countless pre-written obituaries on file the longest?

Big official funeral but not resting in state is what I've heard (the drainage logistics alone!)

on the other hand tho the former czech president was explaining on the bbc how she inspired the anti-communism movement in eastern europe and was a symbol for individual freedom in the world

tbf to the woman the war she escalated didn't kill v. many people so she's still way behind big hitters like Blair

rip inventor of mr whippy, pouring out a 99 flake for u today

pretty sure Soviet communism collapsed itself but we can give her that one, Russia's a much nicer place to live in 2013 i'm sure

Keeping an eye on this: https://twitter.com/billybragg

went for a walk, so mad that spontaneous street parties haven't broken out in hackney. a friend visiting home in scotland just now was woken by her dad bursting into her room dancing and singing "ding dong the witch is dead", that's the way to do it.

also she helped make the uk market innovative and free and competitive

a post-thatcher walk zp

also she helped make the uk market innovative and free and competitive

― Mordy, Monday, April 8, 2013 2:56 PM (13 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Oh, fucking hooray.

Official ceremony, not lying in state, private cremation after ceremony, according to BBC.

also she broke the glass ceiling

it's okay Mordy, you cannot take any of the shine off of this frabjous day

mordy are you looking for positives? because she died, so there's another one

achievements:

- dead

lol Mordy rattling of the pro-thatcher Democrats position so succinctly.

Official ceremony, not lying in state, private cremation after ceremony, electrified fence and 24-hour security guard to prevent people tapdancing on the grace according to BBC.

i'm just running through this checklist of 'ideas for how to troll uk posters about thatcher' since i think i've lost the opportunity to adequately launch this new trolling initiative. might as well get a little mileage out of it.

"Competitive" is usually a euphemism for "can get away with paying people less" which is kind of why the economic crisis happened in the first place.

on the grave, dammit

looking for some type of pithy "she broke though the glass ceiling and immediately paved over it behind her with concrete" response but I keep being too wordy

Shards of glass from that broken ceiling were then aimed to rip apart the safety bet below

i heard she was made of iron or something? that's pretty cool. like robert downey jr.

Safety net goddamn is iPad

god it's midnight i have to go to bed

enjoy your day uk and ireland

the world still respected england when thatcher was in charge. since she left office it's really been downhill in terms of influence + power.

don't u think the left's mouth-foaming hatred of thatcher probably has something to do w/ sexism?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yHrsPW42-o

thank god youtube has this lost classic

goddamn is iPad

poetry

looking for some type of pithy "she broke though the glass ceiling and immediately paved over it behind her with concrete" response but I keep being too wordy

she broke through the glass ceiling and immediately destroyed the glazier industry

she totally PWNd the falklands

If it hadn't been for the Falklands, she'd have been voted out after one term.

she broke through the glass ceiling and immediately gave p w botha a blowjob

fuck tact

http://i.imgur.com/cgNBTu0.jpg

has anyone made any good falklands fuck lands jokes? i feel like there's a good one waiting to be mined out (lol she also fucked the mining union)

Thatcher's legacy in the UK: Three parties fighting each other for the honour of implementing her policies. It's why voting is so exciting!

Graham Linehan otm on Twitter.

man I've been away from WoW for too long, the first post I made should have been "what did she drop?"

I say give the Falklands back to Peter

Peter Falk died before Thatcher did. ;_;

it's okay Mordy, you cannot take any of the shine off of this frabjous day

― https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GwjfUFyY6M (Noodle Vague)

mordy shine-failed

So I'm pretty sure I can just take off from the internet for 24 hours or so, right? This is better than the fiction issue of the New Yorker.

she really showed those IRA folks who was boss

in her favour!

Heseltine in an interview with the Telegraph three days ago:

Lord Heseltine is far too canny an operative to betray himself but when I mention Baroness Thatcher, his expression turns stony and he pauses, obviously choosing his words with care. She was, he says drily, “a very divisive character. She wouldn’t disagree with that. She had strong views and expressed them clearly. A lot of people found that unattractive.” I ask him if he feels moved to visit his old foe, now that she is reportedly so frail. “I’m sorry she’s not well but it would be quite inappropriate for me to go see her.” The blue eyes turn steely: “Let history judge her.”

Looking forward to them wheeling him out in the coming week.

My very first day in Britian ever was when she was re-elected in 1983. It was quite disconcerting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRomG5qYTaI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nH6cAE_ZJhM

has anyone made any good falklands fuck lands jokes? i feel like there's a good one waiting to be mined out (lol she also fucked the mining union)

― Mordy, Monday, 8 April 2013 14:04 (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I think Crass did one of those..

may her cremated remains find the piss-rich sewer they deserve

i hope no one who cried a river about ppl celebrating bin ladin's death are celebrating thatchers

a friend reminded me of this on Facebook, it's wholly otm:

When asked of her proudest achievement in government Margaret Thatcher said, wryly, and accurately one assumes, "New Labour."

If Bin Laden had died of natural causes few would have found the celebrations problematic. xp

So sad that the US Government shot Thatcher without trial.

no-one "cried a river" over that dude - people reflexively thought "fuck yeah! the most powerful nation in the history of ever got the old terrorist dude! FUCK YEAH" was a dumb fuckin look. Whereas a woman who wielded the full power of the state to fuck people over for a very long time...is actually not the same thing? at all? in even the dullest imagination?

RIP threads - classic or dud?

ha u guys come on

aren't we all god's children? shouldn't we forgive + turn the other cheek, etc. i don't see how the manner of death has to do w/ it

did everyone miss the post where Mordy said "fuck it, I'mma troll this thread"

seriously dude don't you do philosophy? this shit is beneath you. a despot is dead. let people shit on her corpse.

for sure the US killing bin ladin was way better and worthier of being celebrated than the heroic thatcher succumbing to natural causes

lol ok

Don't know why Mordy would troll this thread

despotically elected

i even agree with Mordy about all god's children, i just make a private mental reservation for the likes of Thatcher.

i don't even agree w/ Mordy about all god's children

let people shit on her corpse.

no man, pretty sure she privatised that shit too

xp lol no i didn't think u would!

"If you see Sid, tell him... to shit on Thatcher's corpse."

Don't know why Mordy would troll this thread

you have to admit the "all god's children" post was gold

mad uk schadenfreude

Rabbi Johanan taught that God does not rejoice in the downfall of the wicked. Rabbi Johanan interpreted the words zeh el zeh in the phrase “And one did not come near the other all the night” in Exodus 14:20 to teach that when the Egyptians were drowning in the sea, the ministering angels wanted to sing a song of rejoicing, as Isaiah 6:3 associates the words zeh el zeh with angelic singing. But God rebuked them: “The work of my hands is being drowned in the sea, and you want to sing songs?

meanwhile...

Thatcher Rules
By Clifford D. May
April 8, 2013 9:49 A.M. Comments1

I have a signed copy of Margaret Thatcher’s Statecraft on the mantle above my fireplace. On the front cover is a formal portrait, exactly what you’d expect: She appears to be attempting to smile, not entirely successfully. Her hair is a golden halo. She wears a dark jacket, with two strings of pearls around her neck and matching earrings. A large globe hovers just behind her. The picture I like better is on the back cover: It shows her leaning into a microphone with a fierce expression, her left hand extended, elbow on the desk, an index finger pointing up to the sky — you can tell she’s about to tear some jerk a new one.

Rabbi Johanan otm but if god felt so bad about it maybe he shdn't have hardened pharoah's heart all those times?

and then he said "does anybody know "Freebird" ?"

pro tip: ILX is not a deity (no matter how powerful it might seem)

“The work of my hands is being drowned in the sea, and you want to sing songs?"

if you have ever built a sandcastle you can totally relate w/ g-man here

but ILX is full of angels <3

and one steaming great twunt

that's no way to talk about REDACTED

Imma just think of her like this.

http://www.mayonessa.com/slc/baroness.gif

I hope this thread lasts forever

They say it's unbecomeing to speak ill of the dead, so I must remain silent.

a thousand-year 'like'

http://www.salon.com/2011/12/17/christohper_hitchens_and_the_protocol_for_public_figure_deaths/

Or the recycled version http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/apr/08/margaret-thatcher-death-etiquette

Oy, thx for the reminder at the sickening Reagan canonization hit parade.

We missed all that over here. Nobody really gave a toss that the old fool was dead.

I dare you to visit the comments on some American media outlets right now.

No, no, dear god, no. I'm already having enough trouble with my eversonice middle-class friends calling for people to be 'civilised'.

I notice on the BBC site there's an Thatcher (Northern) Irish Legacy page, a Thatcher Welsh Legacy page but strangely no Scottish one

Maybe they are different Thatchers.

Maybe they thatched things...

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2006/08/Thatcher250806_228x323.jpg

Wonder if the NI one mentions her whispering to the Taoiseach that if the Republic joined Schengen she'd ensure that there was never peace in Ireland during her tenure.

Y' what?

Apparently. Wasn't publicised at the time but was told to me by a reliable source.

So, britishes, were trade unions in need of "reform" in the seventies or is this idea neoliberal claptrap?

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2006/08/Thatcher250806_228x323.jpg
― Matt DC, Monday, April 8, 2013 2:55 PM (2 minutes ago)

pictured l-r: the working classes, thatcher

They were in need of reform and would have been reformed if the right wing of the Labour Party hadn't scuppered Harold Wilson and Barbara Castle's attempts to do so. (xp)

But let's not open that can of worms

US president Barack Obama says the world has lost "one of the great champions of freedom and liberty"

Fuck off, Obama

Sinn Fein President Gerry Adams says Margaret Thatcher did "great hurt to the Irish and British people"

Right on, Gerry

lol @ Obama

She WAS a great champion of freedom and liberty. Just not of compassion, social responsibility, workers' rights, etc etc etc etc etc. He's been pretty tactical there.

Great champion of freedom and liberty in Chile, South Africa, Northern Ireland etc etc

Ha, quite.

She opposed the reunification of Germany as well.

late to the party, I'm going to go back and read this whole glorious thread but

YYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY

Probably a few sheep in the Falklands who miss the sound of British gunships.

Jean-Luc Mélenchon (A french leftist politician) says she's in hell. LOL

What does Gary Bushell say though?

catching up, mega-lol:

Never met her but RIP.

― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday,April 8, 2013 9:20AM Bookmark Flag Post

Glasgow local paper, today:

http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/u/news/she-was-loved-and-hated-in-equal-measure.1365432485

History is often kinder to politicians after they are dead.

In the case of Margaret Thatcher in Scotland, don’t hold your breath.

The leader of one of the most paedophile-infested governments in modern times (so much competition) and close friend of Jimmy Savile has died

See if you can guess who's website that's from, go on have a guess

I have a coworker who immigrated to the States from Manchester about 15 years ago, a very sweet older lady who I am very fond of - we traded grimaces over the terrible Streep Thacher movie when everyone else in the building was saying how 'interesting it was' and she tearfully told me that her brother died during the Falklands, apparently he was on the HMS Sheffield (? I think?)...and she gave the familiar sad laundry list of ways that Thatcher had fucked her and her family over.

I went over to her cubicle this morning and asked her if she wanted a hug or if she wanted to hi-five
She gave me a blank look. I said, 'Thatcher's dead'.
Her eyes went big as plates and she smiled and started to laugh and then, adorably, she clapped a hand over her mouth and said, 'No, no, that's terrible thing I can't celebrate someone dying' but the look on her face was complete and total joy

FUCK YOU MAGGIE

Hahahahaha it is original thread starter Dave B's birthday today.

(xpost - David Icke?)

bingo

I'm loving the reposting of Julian Barnes' New Yorker review of her memoirs.

all the hong kongers in my feed are eulogizing her, i guess they must have viewed her differently than you folks

http://i.imgur.com/1FY3WkI.jpg

fuck if im gonna translate this btw

amazing story VG <3

This couldn't have happened at a better time for me, I'm going on holiday for 2 weeks in 3 days.

Let's get the important things straight - do we get a day off work for the funeral?

Yes but you have to bring your own eggs/fruit

http://www.smh.com.au/ffximage/2006/12/11/pinochetthatcher_wideweb__470x337,0.jpg

#MajorTurnOn is trending on UK twitter. I really hope this isn't about another Tory leader.

Fine by me xpost

(I assume it not being a state funeral means we don't, unless they pull that Diana shit and have it on a Saturday)

tramp the dirt down etc

xxp Your search - "edwina_currie_suggestive.jpg" - did not match any documents.

Thinking of our 1st Lady of girl power ,Margaret Thatcher ,a green grocer's daughter who taught me any thing is possible...x
— Geri Halliwell (@GeriHalliwell) April 8, 2013

the only downside to her not having a body-in-ground funeral is that there can't be a national handing out of handfuls of salt for everyone to salt the earth once she's buried

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/datablog/2013/apr/08/britain-changed-margaret-thatcher-charts

This is pretty interesting, I like the stat that shows that the proportion of people working in the public sector actually went UP during Thatcher's time.

that was worded terribly

me, not Matt DC

BREAKING NEWS: ATOS HAS DECLARED MARGARET THATCHER "FIT FOR WORK".

BREAKING NEWS: THAT JOKE BEEN ALL OVER TWITTER SINCE ABOUT FIVE MINUTES AFTER SHE DIED

+ HAS

jesus, scots STILL whinging today of all days

ATOS have passed her fit to work

― Algerian Goalkeeper, Monday, 8 April 2013 13:42 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

xpost lol

HAI YOU GUYZ DID YOU HEAR THEY WON'T BE ABLE TO CREMATE HER BECAUSE SHE SHUT DOWN ALL THE COAL MINES LOLZ

iron 'ore

It's my friend L's birthday today, so I asked her how she felt about sharing her Special Day with the death of a senile tyrant. She was surprisingly OK with it.

Frankie Boyle: "Finally, I get to wear my black suit and tap shoes together"

Anyway, fuck her, the news is talking fawning pish, and I'm no' getting a day off work and I'm too ill to go to the pub. Ooh, BBC News has just remembered they need to be balanced and are away to talk to some people about mining.

i'm just running through this checklist of 'ideas for how to troll uk posters about thatcher' since i think i've lost the opportunity to adequately launch this new trolling initiative. might as well get a little mileage out of it.

you really need a better hobby.

a beautiful obit from NR

“Diversity” types are amusingly silent about her — and for good reason, as her example is utterly lethal to the culture of victimhood on which they rely. The global Left, likewise, has strong motives to disparage her: She realized that decline was a choice (“I can’t bear Britain in decline, I just can’t”), unashamedly believed that the Anglosphere was crucially important to the world (“During my lifetime most of the problems the world has faced have come, in one fashion or other, from mainland Europe, and the solutions from outside it”), and was possessed of an unwavering belief that America and Britain were forces for good and must lead. Today, I feel particularly for my father, who came from nothing and made something of himself. He abhorred the patronizing socialism of the Labour party and credited the opportunity society in which Mrs. Thatcher believed with making his social mobility possible. She was his hero.

In death, her enemies will be vile about her — that is their right, and there is no need to pretend that they liked her just because she is dead. Indeed, the usual suspects have already started. But, ultimately, who cares what they say? She was right and they were wrong. While they blathered, she helped to defeat Communism, restored democracy to the Falklands, and saved Britain from the reds at home. She was, without doubt, our finest post-war premier and she made an incalculable contribution to the life of my country of birth. So, “what did the #ironlady do to advance Great Britain and the world?” Everything. Rest in peace, Mrs. T.

lol xp what other hobbies do you recommend? i have a few but maybe you can help me brainstorm a good replacement for this one.

BBC interview is a bit "b-b-but she's just one person, why do you hate her so much? Isn't it sad that people are so bitter that they're having parties and toasting her demise?" Miner dude is all "nah, fuck her".

I expect that's the end of the balanced bit.

“I can’t bear Britain in decline, I just can’t”)

eloquent!

“Diversity” types are amusingly silent about her

For the most part, this is quite laughably wrong.

too busy....dancing?

I'm gonna need an all-Britishers twitter feed today

can we fly the westboro baptist church over just for this one gig

and then kill them obv

http://www.theonion.com/articles/margaret-thatchers-ashes-scattered-over-free-marke,31981/

A couple of hours old but it made me lol

The Bugle‏@hellobuglers2h
David Cameron: "Thatcher did not just lead her country. She saved her country." Discuss. Loudly. With or without the use of riot shields.

Editor of the Daily Telegraph tweets:

https://twitter.com/gallaghereditor/status/321288984858869761

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Meaning, MargarThatch story having to reinquish the number one position...

1990 Broadcasting Act ftw

why does john major look EXACTLY THE SAME

I doff my cap to Mark Fisher (K-Punk):

'The Happiness of Margaret Thatcher' - On Thatcher, Welfare and the Daily Mail

David Wiegel compiles anti-Maggie songs.

Hmmm, if the Specials were right in 1980 when they suggested that 'She's 68 but she says she's 54', that means she lived past a hundred.

the tributes keep rolling in:

https://twitter.com/SamFoxCom/status/321279357765185536

So so sick of all these high praise reactions of political leaders across the globe. I understand they can't say 'good riddance', but can they at least not pretend she was Mother fucking Theresa?

Do you know, that famous picture of Sam Fox on a tank during the Wapping dispute is proving surprisingly difficult to track down.

today has been educational. I didn't know she'd supported the khmer rouge.

no, that was boy george

khmerkhmerkhmerkhmerohfuckit

oh wait, i thought ogmor was talking about sam fox *blushes*

Glasgow City Council hate impromptu fun:

http://www.glasgow.gov.uk/index.aspx?articleid=9844

Perhaps we should organise one for the weekend and get them to put the portaloos out etc.

omg NickB everlasting lols

irl lols

sooo embarrassed

http://sphotos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-frc1/903796_524801137562321_2056957881_o.jpg

best

hard-hitting journalism
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-22063173

Jon Langford
323 Argentinian conscripts killed heading away from the Falklands so she could win an election - that's how I'll remember the Iron Lady

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-BZIWSI5UQ

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2305760/Margaret-Thatcher-dead-George-Galloway-leads-chorus-celebration-left.html

A Facebook campaign has been launched to take Judy Garland song 'Ding Dong! The Witch is Dead' to number one following Margaret Thatcher's death.
A series of pages urge people to buy MP3 downloads of the song, which features in 1939 musical The Wizard of Oz.

One, called Make 'Ding dong the witch is dead' number 1 the week Thatcher dies, already had 590 members by 1.30pm with numbers rapidly rising.

In the film the song is performed by the Munchkin characters, Glinda the Good Witch, played by Billie Burke, and Dorothy, played by Judy Garland.

The lyrics were written by E.Y. Harburg and the song celebrates the death of the Wicked Witch of the East after Dorothy 'dropped a house on her'.

Article in Spanish: http://internacional.elpais.com/internacional/2013/04/08/actualidad/1365422190_056320.html

"Su revolución económica no significó la creación de un país mucho más eficiente". (Her economic revolution did not create a much more efficient country.)

http://thequietus.com/articles/11886-margaret-thatcher-obituary

best article i've read today

something about this really annoys me

http://www.slate.com/blogs/weigel/2013/04/08/margaret_thatcher_vs_pop_culture.html

I really hate to speak ill of the recently dead, because I'm sure even Maggie had a few family members who loved her and will miss her, so I will stay silent for now.

You think they're reading aimless?

THIS IS NOT THE TIME TO TAKE THE HIGHER GROUND

Hi folks! YOUR GRAN WAS A REAL CUNT enjoy the time off school xxx

That Elvis Costello song was the first thing that popped into my head this morning.

lol darragh

It's more that I can't work up to a good froth atm. I'm leaving for a nice vacation in an hour or two and it's enough for me that she's dead and over.

Lol "recently dead"

She will have surviving relatives 10 years from now, that's stupid

By which I mean...

I first became aware that she was evil when I was 8 years old. On holiday in Tralee I was walking past a Sinn Fein shop and they had Wanted DOA posters of her in the window with a hangman's noose around her neck.

At least I have made wins laugh.

That's the spirit

y'all I managed to forget how amazing "Daydreaming" by Massive Attack is

it's responsible for some whack dance moves though

I'm sure even Maggie had a few family members who loved her and will miss her

A racist and an arms dealer, iirc.

I really hate to speak ill of the recently dead, because I'm sure even Maggie had a few family members who loved her and will miss her, so I will stay silent for now.

― Aimless, Monday, April 8, 2013 1:42 PM (19 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

silent huh

*puts ear up to aimless's post*

local record store posted this on FB

"Margaret Thatcher had many wonderful things she did for the world but she is also known for quotes that will live on long after her death today. Here is one we liked. 'If you want something said, ask a man; if you want something done, ask a woman"

My comment: 'The most wonderful thing she did for the world was die. You should run a sale on Exploited cds for the rest of April in celebration.'

I didn't say the C-word once.

Right on.

why they even felt the need to weigh in is beyond me

if ILE (or the WWW) had existed in 1994, there'd probably be a lot of posts from Americans celebrating Nixon's death. he's probably the closest thing we have to Nixon (well, at least till Dubya and Cheney die anyway).

closest thing we had to THATCHER, i meant.

it one of my family members becomes one of history's greatest monsters, i will refrain from reading ilx on the day they die, or else i will at least know what to expect

xp - the owner of a local record store near me posted this:
B'Bye Maggie: She was a strong supporter of apartheid in South Africa. In 1987 she described the ANC as 'a typical terrorist organisation'. Anyone who thought it would run South Africa was 'living in cloud-cuckoo land'. She denounced Nelson Mandela, the then imprisoned ANC leader, as a terrorist.

Tragedy is when I cut my finger. Comedy is when Thatcher dies."

- Bob Marley

http://www.biography.com/imported/images/Biography/Images/Profiles/M/Nelson-Mandela-9397017-1-402.jpg

Someone needs to make a zing Thatcher meme with this.

yes please

Workmate reckons Mandela personally thanked Thatcher after he got out of jail and that she was secretly working against Apartheid or some nonsense. I asked him what his excuse for the Khmer Rouge was.

wow

Who's been better tamed, the British left since Thatcher or the American left since Reagan?

Who's been better tamed neuteured, the British left since Thatcher or the American left since Reagan?

local record store posted this on FB

"Margaret Thatcher had many wonderful things she did for the world but she is also known for quotes that will live on long after her death today. Here is one we liked. 'If you want something said, ask a man; if you want something done, ask a woman"

My comment: 'The most wonderful thing she did for the world was die. You should run a sale on Exploited cds for the rest of April in celebration.'

I didn't say the C-word once.

Love you VG.

xp America has a left?

Posho students on the table next to me were talking about her in wimpily equivocal terms while still managing to call her a "moral visionary", very nearly harshed my buzz. I had to put headphones in & listen to chic

I mean they could at least come out & declare allegiance so I'd be within my rights to glass the tweed-coated cunts

as far as i can recall, there wasn't much personal hatred of Reagan himself (even if one hated his policies and their aftermath). like i said above, you'd have to go back to Nixon (or jump ahead to Dubya) to find both the hatred of the person AND the politics that Thatcher stirred up.

Nixon >>> Thatcher

no, there are definitely those who had a lot of bile for Reagan

Thatcher never hid her unpleasantness. I saw a clip of a speech – damn, was she metallic.

at least Reagan could read his lines, y'know?

xp - plenty of people hated Reagan the person!!!

I forget which evisceration of Nixon I read first as a teen, the Hunter Thompson article or the 'Life In Hell' strip, but they were both p eyeopening as regards the depths of ppl's loathing for him and their eagerness to put it on the record. it's the only political death in my lifetime I can think of which compares to Thatcher in that respect

Reagan's death was also somewhat anti-climatic because of his dementia.

Nixon was a nut, but Thatcher was pathological.

got a promo email about a special pricing deal on 'Iron Lady' dvds

my english coworker and I joked 'Free Party Hat with every purchase'

there's no US corollary for Thatcher

have always loved Hitchens's obituary of Reagan - "The famously genial grin turned into a rictus of senile fury: I was looking at a cruel and stupid lizard."

man what I wouldn't pay for a Hitch obituary of Thatcher

I really hate to speak ill of the recently dead, because I'm sure even Maggie had a few family members who loved her and will miss her, so I will stay silent for now.

― Aimless, maandag 8 april 2013 19:42 (58 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I get what your saying, but to be honest, I never got the "don't speak ill of the dead"-'rule'. Dying is not an accomplishment that sheds new light or respect on a person. Dying is a tragedy. But death, by default, means it is the opposite of life. Therefore anything one wants to say about the person's life has no baring on this person being dead no? Neither doesn't death change or put this person's life in a new light.

-death in the last sentence...

death death death on my mind today...

It doesn't effect the dead person, it maybe effects the friends or relatives mourning them

I don't think people's opinions of Thatcher are going to come as any great shock to anyone who knew her.

Hitchens on Reagan in 2011.

Nixon was a nut, but Thatcher was pathological.

Nixon was pretty fucking pathological. The only contemporary political leaders that made him look less so were Pol Pot and Idi Amin.

Of course. But it's ok then to anticipate the death of Thatcher when she was still alive, with these friends and relatives around, as many have - but not when she actually dies? If one has that feeling I rather see people being consequent and sticking to it, to be honest. I don't think the mourning friends or relatives will feel any particular gratitude for people not hating on her for a week, and then continue to hate her like they did for decades before her death, and after.

xxxp

yeah, the "don't speak ill of the dead" is out of respect for the family and friends -- plus society still holds it as distasteful (whether or not the deceased deserves such reverence).

Thatcher's family are a real treat, though -- isn't her son a tax cheat who tried to fund a coup d'etat in Africa?!?

However, I'm sure if Nixon could have gotten away with feeding his perceived rivals to hippopotami, he probably would have.

the fact that we have to talk about mourning period manners every time a significant controversial figure dies is the most tedious irrelevant thing and the concern trolls have won

can we make Michael Jackson pedophile jokes now?

"now"

True story everyone in the staff canteen was talking about thatcher this lunchtime & the lone thatcherite suddenly burst out with "i bet all of you who hate thatcher love Michael Jackson, who's worse?"

I was like, is this the setup for one of those lame Twitter jokes

there's only one way to find out.... FIGHT!!!

" Let’s privatise her funeral. Put it out to competitive tender and accept the cheapest bid. It’s what she would have wanted."- Ken Loach

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/14/Michael_Jackson_-_Beat_It_music_video.jpg/220px-Michael_Jackson_-_Beat_It_music_video.jpg

Btw t€$co canteen a weird place to talk about thatcher

I am not 'celebrating' Thatcher's death, but as Aero eloquently pointed out earlier: a despot died today, people who suffered from her ruling have the right to shit on her. Even today.

I am not even English. I intrinsically disagreed and loathed Thatcher even before I got together with my English girlfriend. But she really made me see how destructive Thatcher's influence has been to so many people in your beautiful country.

- Her mother died of a heart condition, suddenly having found herself on a long waiting list after the health system reform in the early 80s, unable to receive the care she needed
- Her dad lost her job as Thatcher's policy led to the closing of the factory he worked at
- Her cousin died in the Falkland war

I'm Dutch. I've seen a lot of Dutch people mentioning today "Wow, I didn't know a lot of British hated her so much". But things I listed above - whatever you may think of it - have left infinite impressions on some of the people I love. And on millions more. That will never go away, it has decided vital parts of their lives, a time they call the "darkest period of our lives", with no added drama.

So do I celebrate? No. But am I glad she is gone? Hell yes.

to paraphrase MDC:

if there is a hell, it surely waits for her.

also, LBI otm

Dying is a tragedy.

No it isn't.

xpost yeah, pathological was a poor choice of words. Meant I guess that Nixon operated under the influence of paranoia and severe, clinical self-loathing, Thatcher absolute arrogance.

dying's a certainty, that much is for sure

Dying is a tragedy.

No it isn't.

― emil.y, maandag 8 april 2013 21:01 (16 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Well... I agree with you, and I know where you are coming from. Dying is a tragedy for the people around the person dying. Not for the person who dies.

Ronan Farrow ‏@RonanFarrow 28m
Today the world lost a fierce leader who was for years synonymous with conservatism and capitalism. (Annette Funicello.)

I had to put headphones in & listen to chic

I've had a string of Chic hits circling around my head all day, it just seems right.

i'm not personally out celebrating but i really don't see any need to begrudge anyone their cathartic hatred

Annette Funicello died???

Annette Funicello died???

yup ;_;

Death isn't a tragedy for the relatives of a demented woman.

bbc parliament showing 1980 and 1984 conference speeches

I guess I was just at the right age - even in Oz, growing up seeing Thatcher on tv and in newspapers always her coif + pearls paired with a photo of a crazed mob throwing garbage cans etc, I don't think even then I really had to know a lot to know that things were broken and desperate over there

But meeting people who lived under her solidified that 'vague sense' later on as I got old enough to understand what happened.

Can someone recommend a bio?

this gal was from ireland and who gives a shit

I'm sure plenty of us remember the posters this one is parodying

http://i.imgur.com/VtpPIZT.jpg

lol

It's patronizing and possibly misogynist to think that Thatcher wouldn't have fully appreciated our loathing. She was quite comfortable being who she was and doing what she did, despite criticism, so I feel very little compunction about pointing out that I thought her a perfectly ghastly, loathesome humsan being.

Did they make sure she wouldn't rise again. Chop her head off, burn the corpse after staking it or anything?
JUst hope she don't take over management when she arrives where she's going, hate to think she might try to return.

did she really call mandela a terrorist?

yup

ayuh

i can hear fireworks from my glasgow flat but can't see them :)

True story everyone in the staff canteen was talking about thatcher this lunchtime & the lone thatcherite suddenly burst out with "i bet all of you who hate thatcher love Michael Jackson, who's worse?"

I was like, is this the setup for one of those lame Twitter jokes

― My Sunn0))), My Sunn0))), What Have Ye Drone? (wins), Monday, April 8, 2013 1:57 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

there's only one way to find out.... FIGHT!!!

― Neil S, Monday, April 8, 2013 1:57 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

MJ clearly has the edge in zombie fights

xp well she did end up being kinda correct about the ANC

I can't say I have particularly strong opinions on her (some horrible ideas like the poll tax, but I also think the UKs coal industry, Northern industry, and state-owned corporations would have fared poorly under any government), but I will note that Thatcher is the main reason for the divergence of British conservatives from U.S. conservatives on the topic of global warming and climate change. Her chemistry background allowed her to understand the the crisis and push for the creation of the Hadley Center (who are leaders in the field) and push for green energy incentives in the late 80s.

Can someone recommend a bio?

Not a Thatcher bio but I would recommend Alan Clarke Diaries, Into Politics (72 - 82) and In Power (83-92).

have always loved Hitchens's obituary of Reagan - "The famously genial grin turned into a rictus of senile fury: I was looking at a cruel and stupid lizard."

dearly wish the great walter karp (who called reagan a 'vile tyrant') had lived long enough to write an obit.

i'm by no means a big elvis costello fan but i think he said all that needs to be said today.

wait I missed it, what did costello say

Just that old song...

ah :)

http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_tense/2013/04/08/margaret_thatcher_s_environmental_record_she_was_a_climate_hawk.html

can anyone imagine a lefty winning office in the UK or US by saying something as insanely radical as "there is no such thing as society"?

Just really pissed my missus off by shouting Yes Terrorists! at some Brighton Bomb footage.

you had me at "can anyone imagine a lefty winning office in the UK"

well I mean 'lefty' by the righty wingnuts' degraded standard.

Post-PM, she decried “costly and economically damaging” schemes to limit carbon emissions and lamented that climate change “provides a marvelous excuse for worldwide, supra-national socialism.”

well, there's the rub... she wasn't interested in a transformative solution, so that ultimately leads to a dead end.

In the sense that a global carbon-emissions enforcement scheme might only work without via coercion or reliably automatic economic sanctions, she had a point. Go Socialism.

work without via

so basically, her fear & loathing of "one world (socialist) government" (an American wingnut bugaboo, too) trumped her chemistry background. an ideologue, in other words.

Whether anthropogenic climate change is even a problem is still a matter of political dispute in America, 23 years after Thatcher founded the Hadley Center. 23 years is a pretty good head start, and its reflected in UK plans for renewable rollout.

if u love thatcher so much why don't u marry her oh wait she's DEAD

sorry

lol

Ah so that is why she murdered all of us, she was an environmental warrior! Well Fuck you hideous fucking [insert word that some motherfucking m/c neoliberal piece of shit will call misogyny]

anyway, Sanpaku does raise an interesting point re: the British coal industry, northern manufacturing and government-owned enterprises pre-Thatcher. my basic understanding is that the key problem was that British industry was essentially non-competitive with the rest of the world when Thatcher was elected. how would a Labour government -- or even a less radically neoliberal Tory government -- have handled this question? i know that this is ancient history at this point, though.

What does Britain think of her reaction to Hillsborough generally?

S'ok i said if earlier, to her grandkids no less xp

Xp - there is no Britain 'generally', views on Thatcher are extremely polarised

Eisbaer - Note, I'm also not saying Thatcher's solutions were responsible for the generally improved economy in the 90s. The UK had a simply enormous backwinds from North Sea oil and the influx of educated elites from the Commonwealth.

But the coal seams were simply too narrow and far from the shafts to support a coal industry. Period. I'm not familiar enough with other British industries to comment upon them, except to say a couple of my mother's boyfriends vowed never to buy a Triumph or MG again...

I don't know who Frankie Boyle is but "Looking forward to hearing about who found all the horcruxes" made me lol.

I don't know who Frankie Boyle is

He is the type of of comedian who enjoys ragging on the disabled and making jokes about rape. Bit of a cunt.

http://twitpic.com/chzrnf

He's also the guy who, when he found out that Thatcher's funeral was estimated to be costing in the region of £3m said "for £3m you could buy everyone in Scotland a shovel and we could dig a hole deep enough to deliver her to Satan personally".

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nice conciliatory type sentiment from him, but still hope he fucking dies, soon as possible.

ahh, this was not a dream

tomorrow's Heil

http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/66816000/jpg/_66816318_mail.jpg

Holy Fuck!

ugggghhhh

I think the thing that boggles my mind the most about the Mail's recent covers is not the content, but the fact that they're all so horribly designed.

and the rest of tomorrow's front pages

http://imgur.com/a/6ncFU

someone please do a Mick Philpott shop please please please

Oh, I saw a Mick Philpott/Thatcher Mail front cover shop on Twitter earlier but fucked if I could find it again, sorry.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/541552_629170777097064_1256053714_n.jpg

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racing post otm xps

"Cowell: I am SO not gay" got the biggest laugh here

that is the most ghoulish photo I've ever seen

thatcher was pretty fetching imho

The smile is legit terrifying

Kingsley Amis said she "reeked of sex"

bigger hair than a Jersey girl

I don't get heterosexual men. xp

For a second I thought you were refering to Cowell.

Kingsley Amis said she "reeked of sex"

Wasn't that Hitchens?

Alan Clarke really liked her 'skinny ankles' long time ago, this sexing her up aint new y'know.

it's never not creeped me out

I mean I've never heard women speak fondly of Nixon's flop sweat but it gives me the same level of creeping dread

If I had a life/death choice I would give Nixon a BJ over Thatcher.

Kingsley Amis said she "reeked of sex"

Wasn't that Hitchens?

think it was Hitchens quoting Amis giving Nixon a blowjob

http://content.hollywire.com/sites/default/files/2009/05/11/nixon-263x300.jpg
hubba hubba

you are all terrible

plz, i need to get to sleep tonight.

otm

he's got abs!

lol!!!

oh alfredpaws

just played 'tramp the dirt down' for the first time in years, tore my heart out

yes, me too

"Pissed-off Elvis Costello" is among my favorite of all the rockstar glares

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-BZIWSI5UQ

and he outlived her, so it all gets to happen xp

oh yes

oh god, someone in this tram is reading a herald sun, front page a big blow-up of thatcher with 'FAREWELL MAGGIE' headline

fuck i can't wait until murdoch goes

my friend from HS was wringing her hands about how Thatcher's children must feel about all the vitriol and I told her that the haters are happy, it's a much better kind of hate :D

it's the best

her husband is dead, and her son is a tax cheat and an arms dealer who funded a coup attempt in Africa about a decade ago. so fuck what they think.

good interview with EC about Tramp The Dirt Down here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Znn5a-88tY

xpost yep that too

mags lived long enough to see her daughter publicly eat roo nuts and wazz on the ground on national television; hopefully the ignominy hung over those final years of her sorry fucking life

i love you

cheers piscesx

aw xp

thank you for stating that in exactly the manner I needed

'i'm a celebrity in thatcher's transformed north, get me out of here'

this was really good too IMO; a very personal response from Tim Chipping, the ex-Orlando chap

http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1rjliea

the first time i ever knowingly heard 'The Red Flag' was on their album.