― Lara (Lara), Sunday, 20 July 2003 19:33 (twenty-two years ago)
― Chriddof (Chriddof), Sunday, 20 July 2003 19:47 (twenty-two years ago)
― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Sunday, 20 July 2003 20:22 (twenty-two years ago)
― Texas Sam (thatgirl), Sunday, 20 July 2003 20:25 (twenty-two years ago)
― gabbneb (gabbneb), Sunday, 20 July 2003 20:26 (twenty-two years ago)
― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Sunday, 20 July 2003 20:27 (twenty-two years ago)
― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Sunday, 20 July 2003 20:28 (twenty-two years ago)
― Millar (Millar), Sunday, 20 July 2003 20:28 (twenty-two years ago)
I once went to a party at Juilliard. This is basically what the crowd looked like.
― gabbneb (gabbneb), Sunday, 20 July 2003 20:32 (twenty-two years ago)
― thoth (Jake Proudlock), Sunday, 20 July 2003 20:42 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ally (mlescaut), Sunday, 20 July 2003 20:55 (twenty-two years ago)
― Paul Eater (eater), Sunday, 20 July 2003 21:14 (twenty-two years ago)
― Matt (Matt), Sunday, 20 July 2003 21:37 (twenty-two years ago)
― thoth (Jake Proudlock), Sunday, 20 July 2003 22:10 (twenty-two years ago)
― Matt (Matt), Sunday, 20 July 2003 22:19 (twenty-two years ago)
― Mary (Mary), Sunday, 20 July 2003 23:57 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ally (mlescaut), Monday, 21 July 2003 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)
― Mary (Mary), Monday, 21 July 2003 00:01 (twenty-two years ago)
― M Matos (M Matos), Monday, 21 July 2003 00:04 (twenty-two years ago)
― Millar (Millar), Monday, 21 July 2003 00:09 (twenty-two years ago)
― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Monday, 21 July 2003 00:10 (twenty-two years ago)
This is a touchy subject!
― Mary (Mary), Monday, 21 July 2003 00:16 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ally (mlescaut), Monday, 21 July 2003 00:17 (twenty-two years ago)
- Make sure all words are spelled correctly.- Try different keywords.- Try more general keywords.- Try fewer keywords.
― Millar (Millar), Monday, 21 July 2003 00:22 (twenty-two years ago)
― Mary (Mary), Monday, 21 July 2003 00:23 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ally (mlescaut), Monday, 21 July 2003 00:25 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ally (mlescaut), Monday, 21 July 2003 00:27 (twenty-two years ago)
Ha ha x-post, it worked fine as was. I could never get mad at Ally -- you have turned in your toe shoes haven't you?
― Mary (Mary), Monday, 21 July 2003 00:28 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ally (mlescaut), Monday, 21 July 2003 00:30 (twenty-two years ago)
― Mary (Mary), Monday, 21 July 2003 00:31 (twenty-two years ago)
But the smoking really ruined it.
― Ally (mlescaut), Monday, 21 July 2003 00:33 (twenty-two years ago)
― Mary (Mary), Monday, 21 July 2003 00:36 (twenty-two years ago)
Did you give up singing because smoking altered your voice, too?
― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Monday, 21 July 2003 00:37 (twenty-two years ago)
I did used to sing too, smoking destroyed my vocal chords :(
― Ally (mlescaut), Monday, 21 July 2003 00:39 (twenty-two years ago)
Ally doesn't seem prissy enough to be a ballerina. Yes, I'm still bitter after ten years.
― Mary (Mary), Monday, 21 July 2003 00:44 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ally (mlescaut), Monday, 21 July 2003 00:47 (twenty-two years ago)
― Colin Meeder (Mert), Monday, 21 July 2003 01:46 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 21 July 2003 01:48 (twenty-two years ago)
Uh, sorry. *coughs*
― Matt (Matt), Monday, 21 July 2003 02:00 (twenty-two years ago)
― Mary (Mary), Monday, 21 July 2003 02:00 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ally (mlescaut), Monday, 21 July 2003 02:06 (twenty-two years ago)
― Matt (Matt), Monday, 21 July 2003 02:15 (twenty-two years ago)
― Mary (Mary), Monday, 21 July 2003 02:51 (twenty-two years ago)
― j.lu (j.lu), Monday, 21 July 2003 03:09 (twenty-two years ago)
― Mary (Mary), Monday, 21 July 2003 03:10 (twenty-two years ago)
― Matt (Matt), Monday, 21 July 2003 03:18 (twenty-two years ago)
I used to go past the VCA (vic college of arts) every day on the way to work, which has a dance school. There'd be a gaggle of skinny, tightly-hairbunned young things on the tram, talking like teens do in bitchy tones about other people... except you would always hear something along the lines of "how can they let someone as fat as her be a dancer!?" about a (presumably absent!) colleague. What saddened me was to think the "fat" person being discussed was probably as thin and hardworking as the rest of them. All they ever talked about was the size abd appearance of people they knew.
Models are the same (well, the couple I know who were old friends). Its almost as if they're in such a rarified atmosphere they lose perspective, I guess.
― Trayce (trayce), Monday, 21 July 2003 03:26 (twenty-two years ago)
― gabbneb (gabbneb), Monday, 21 July 2003 05:41 (twenty-two years ago)
― nickn (nickn), Monday, 21 July 2003 06:15 (twenty-two years ago)
Now this would all be a joke if the girl in question didn't take it to heart, believing that her arse really IS too fat. She has now made it as a dancer in modern dance, but, to my knowledge, she never eats. I don't think you can be a pro dancer without developing body and food issues, which I think is a nasty shame.
― thoth (Jake Proudlock), Monday, 21 July 2003 09:50 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ally (mlescaut), Monday, 21 July 2003 12:55 (twenty-two years ago)
Could it be that Ms. Byrne is being disingenuous? It is my opinion that she has a perfectly good idea of U&K ballerina usage and that she is just being coy.
― Tim (Tim), Tuesday, 22 July 2003 10:16 (twenty-two years ago)
― Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 22 July 2003 10:19 (twenty-two years ago)
― Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 22 July 2003 10:20 (twenty-two years ago)
http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&q=ballerina+%22reverse+cowgirl%22
The second link on this list is a salon blog that includes the text
superstars azuremariposa real live preacher kitty bukake reverse cowgirl radio free blogistan
which sounds like the most pathetic keywords-to-bring-in-the-punters, but in fact it's a list of blogs!
azuremariposareal live preacherkitty bukakereverse cowgirlradio free blogistan
This has improved my day considerably (NB these blogs may or may not be any good)
― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Tuesday, 22 July 2003 10:36 (twenty-two years ago)
Is Lara a ballerina?
― Mary (Mary), Tuesday, 22 July 2003 16:16 (twenty-two years ago)
― mark s (mark s), Tuesday, 22 July 2003 16:19 (twenty-two years ago)
― amateurist (amateurist), Tuesday, 22 July 2003 16:22 (twenty-two years ago)
― RJG (RJG), Tuesday, 22 July 2003 16:25 (twenty-two years ago)
― Mary (Mary), Tuesday, 22 July 2003 16:27 (twenty-two years ago)
Anything I would say about ballerinas or dancers in general--that I admire them for their physical confidence, for their discipline, for their grace, etc.--would probably be taken the wrong way.
― amateurist (amateurist), Tuesday, 22 July 2003 16:31 (twenty-two years ago)
http://www.shillpages.com/movies/redshoes1948dvd.gif
― amateurist (amateurist), Tuesday, 22 July 2003 16:34 (twenty-two years ago)
I have no idea what you're talking about Tim!
I used to be a ballerina but gave it up because I didn't have the reach-around.
― Lara (Lara), Tuesday, 22 July 2003 18:16 (twenty-two years ago)
― NA (Nick A.), Tuesday, 22 July 2003 18:24 (twenty-two years ago)
― Lara (Lara), Tuesday, 22 July 2003 18:28 (twenty-two years ago)
― nickalicious (nickalicious), Tuesday, 22 July 2003 19:17 (twenty-two years ago)
― Jay Vee (Manon_70), Tuesday, 22 July 2003 19:17 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ally (mlescaut), Tuesday, 22 July 2003 19:19 (twenty-two years ago)
― Mary (Mary), Tuesday, 22 July 2003 19:36 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ally (mlescaut), Tuesday, 22 July 2003 19:40 (twenty-two years ago)
― amateurist (amateurist), Tuesday, 22 July 2003 19:42 (twenty-two years ago)
― felicity (felicity), Tuesday, 22 July 2003 19:46 (twenty-two years ago)
― Mandee, Tuesday, 22 July 2003 19:58 (twenty-two years ago)
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 22 July 2003 20:00 (twenty-two years ago)
I said "might."
― amateurist (amateurist), Tuesday, 22 July 2003 20:02 (twenty-two years ago)
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 22 July 2003 20:04 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ally (mlescaut), Tuesday, 22 July 2003 20:05 (twenty-two years ago)
― amateurist (amateurist), Tuesday, 22 July 2003 20:07 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ally (mlescaut), Tuesday, 22 July 2003 20:09 (twenty-two years ago)
― amateurist (amateurist), Tuesday, 22 July 2003 20:10 (twenty-two years ago)
― Pashmina (Pashmina), Tuesday, 22 July 2003 20:11 (twenty-two years ago)
― Mandee, Tuesday, 22 July 2003 21:00 (twenty-two years ago)
Well of course you wouldn't necessarily need the reach around, there are other skills which you might employ successfully... oh hold on. Mm, I think I see.
Lara did you give up the Ballet and take up marbles?
― Tim (Tim), Tuesday, 22 July 2003 21:02 (twenty-two years ago)
― Pashmina (Pashmina), Tuesday, 22 July 2003 21:03 (twenty-two years ago)
― amateurist (amateurist), Tuesday, 22 July 2003 21:04 (twenty-two years ago)
― Lara (Lara), Tuesday, 22 July 2003 21:05 (twenty-two years ago)
As for smoking, I'm rabidly anti-smoking, but I thought most professional dancers smoked!
― Al Andalous, Tuesday, 22 July 2003 21:28 (twenty-two years ago)
― Al Andalous, Tuesday, 22 July 2003 21:53 (twenty-two years ago)
― Mary (Mary), Tuesday, 22 July 2003 22:20 (twenty-two years ago)
Someone should post Tracer Hand's final emphatic "AND PLIÉ!!" to the SON OF EXCELSIOR! thread. That shit's funny.
― chester (synkro), Tuesday, 22 July 2003 22:36 (twenty-two years ago)
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 23 July 2003 00:04 (twenty-two years ago)
― Tad (llamasfur), Wednesday, 23 July 2003 02:05 (twenty-two years ago)
― Tad (llamasfur), Wednesday, 23 July 2003 02:06 (twenty-two years ago)
Who's your pommel horse?
― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Wednesday, 23 July 2003 02:15 (twenty-two years ago)
― Tad (llamasfur), Wednesday, 23 July 2003 02:17 (twenty-two years ago)
― gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 23 July 2003 02:27 (twenty-two years ago)
― Nellie (nellskies), Wednesday, 23 July 2003 04:25 (twenty-two years ago)
― amateurist (amateurist), Wednesday, 23 July 2003 15:48 (twenty-two years ago)
― amateurist (amateurist), Wednesday, 23 July 2003 15:49 (twenty-two years ago)
My girlfriend was a competitive teenage ballerina, to the extent of leaving town and going across the country for full-time dance boarding schools; I don't know much about levels of prestige in the dance world, but my sense is that she was really, really good. She makes me watch ballet movies, which I have grown to love. From what I gather, the "rarefied" tag applied here is most accurate. It feels really unfair to pick on them, because the successful ones tend to have been dedicated to this one really arcane challenge -- to the point of exclusion from other kids, being holed up with basically each other and concerned with things no other kid would much care about -- since they were very, very young. In terms of their echo-chamber seclusion they are ten times worse than theater people, and yet divas aside they still sound a whole lot nicer than theater people turn out.
It doesn't help that ballet is still sort of medieval as an art form, in terms of its concerns and how you have to train into it and what you're shooting for. (Being a ballerina strikes me as about as removed from the rest of the world as being a castralto.)
― nabisco (nabisco), Wednesday, 23 July 2003 16:26 (twenty-two years ago)
― Christine 'Green Leafy Dragon' Indigo (cindigo), Monday, 28 July 2003 20:44 (twenty-two years ago)
― Christine 'Green Leafy Dragon' Indigo (cindigo), Monday, 28 July 2003 20:45 (twenty-two years ago)
― rosemary (rosemary), Monday, 28 July 2003 20:47 (twenty-two years ago)
but, search: Ballerinas... save: Rockettes...
― jmod, Thursday, 31 July 2003 14:27 (twenty-two years ago)
― Mary (Mary), Thursday, 31 July 2003 14:46 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ally (mlescaut), Thursday, 31 July 2003 14:48 (twenty-two years ago)
― Larcole (Nicole), Thursday, 31 July 2003 14:51 (twenty-two years ago)
http://www.ballerina.com/ballerina_com_files/poster.jpg
― Sarah McLUsky (coco), Thursday, 31 July 2003 14:53 (twenty-two years ago)
― felicity (felicity), Thursday, 31 July 2003 17:15 (twenty-two years ago)
― Lara (Lara), Thursday, 31 July 2003 18:36 (twenty-two years ago)
― mark s (mark s), Thursday, 31 July 2003 18:45 (twenty-two years ago)
― Larcole (Nicole), Thursday, 31 July 2003 18:50 (twenty-two years ago)
― Mary (Mary), Thursday, 31 July 2003 18:54 (twenty-two years ago)
― Tim (Tim), Thursday, 31 July 2003 19:02 (twenty-two years ago)
Tra la...
― Lara (Lara), Thursday, 31 July 2003 19:03 (twenty-two years ago)
― rosemary (rosemary), Thursday, 31 July 2003 19:25 (twenty-two years ago)
the drums!! the drums in the deep!! they are at the bridge!! we cannot get out!!
― mark s (mark s), Thursday, 31 July 2003 19:53 (twenty-two years ago)
― felicity (felicity), Thursday, 31 July 2003 20:40 (twenty-two years ago)
― amateurist (amateurist), Thursday, 31 July 2003 21:32 (twenty-two years ago)
― Mary (Mary), Thursday, 31 July 2003 22:37 (twenty-two years ago)
― felicity (felicity), Friday, 1 August 2003 03:03 (twenty-two years ago)
― Mary (Mary), Friday, 1 August 2003 03:15 (twenty-two years ago)
― Mary (Mary), Friday, 1 August 2003 03:17 (twenty-two years ago)
― Mary (Mary), Friday, 1 August 2003 03:18 (twenty-two years ago)
I want to choreograph a ballet movement to one of Soundmurderer's ragga jungle mixes. Now that's some ballet I could enjoy!
― Andrew (enneff), Friday, 1 August 2003 03:20 (twenty-two years ago)
― j.lu (j.lu), Friday, 1 August 2003 04:17 (twenty-two years ago)
― Mary (Mary), Friday, 1 August 2003 04:21 (twenty-two years ago)
― Vic (Vic), Friday, 1 August 2003 10:34 (twenty-two years ago)
― rosemary (rosemary), Saturday, 2 August 2003 01:38 (twenty-two years ago)
if a celebrina was going to get her nails done
:-O
― gabbneb (gabbneb), Saturday, 2 August 2003 02:16 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ally (mlescaut), Thursday, 2 October 2003 19:03 (twenty-two years ago)
― adaml (adaml), Thursday, 2 October 2003 19:24 (twenty-two years ago)
― gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 2 October 2003 19:26 (twenty-two years ago)
― adaml (adaml), Thursday, 2 October 2003 19:27 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ally (mlescaut), Thursday, 2 October 2003 19:30 (twenty-two years ago)
― tokyo rosemary (rosemary), Thursday, 2 October 2003 21:33 (twenty-two years ago)
― TOMBOT, Thursday, 2 October 2003 21:47 (twenty-two years ago)
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 2 October 2003 21:53 (twenty-two years ago)
― TOMBOT, Thursday, 2 October 2003 22:00 (twenty-two years ago)
― Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Thursday, 2 October 2003 22:01 (twenty-two years ago)
i would. sorry. (blushes)
― Pashmina (Pashmina), Thursday, 2 October 2003 22:37 (twenty-two years ago)
Jesus freaks out in the streetHanding tickets out for GodTurning back she just laughsThe boulevard is not that bad
Piano man he makes his standIn the auditoriumLooking on she sings the songsThe words she knows, the tune she hums
But oh how it feels so realLying here with no one nearOnly you and you can't hear meWhen I say softly, slowly
Hold me closer tiny dancerCount the headlights on the highwayLay me down in sheets of linenyou had a busy day today
Blue jean baby, L.A. lady, seamstress for the bandPretty eyed, pirate smile, you'll marry a music manBallerina, you must have seen her dancing in the sandAnd now she's in me, always with me, tiny dancer in my hand
― Elton, Thursday, 2 October 2003 22:42 (twenty-two years ago)
A big pile of ballerinas will keep you nice and warm on a cold night.
But only if you pour gas on them first. They're hard to get started.
― sucka (sucka), Thursday, 2 October 2003 22:52 (twenty-two years ago)
― Nicolars (Nicole), Thursday, 2 October 2003 22:52 (twenty-two years ago)
― ModJ, Thursday, 2 October 2003 23:47 (twenty-two years ago)
I guess this proves my worthlessness :( :( :````(
― Ally (mlescaut), Thursday, 2 October 2003 23:48 (twenty-two years ago)
It's like my head busted open and they replaced the porridge with mildew.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 2 October 2003 23:49 (twenty-two years ago)
― ModJ, Thursday, 2 October 2003 23:51 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ally (mlescaut), Thursday, 2 October 2003 23:55 (twenty-two years ago)
― ModJ, Friday, 3 October 2003 00:02 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ally (mlescaut), Friday, 3 October 2003 00:04 (twenty-two years ago)
― ModJ, Friday, 3 October 2003 00:05 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ally (mlescaut), Friday, 3 October 2003 00:10 (twenty-two years ago)
― ModJ, Friday, 3 October 2003 00:11 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ally (mlescaut), Friday, 3 October 2003 00:13 (twenty-two years ago)
― ModJ, Friday, 3 October 2003 00:14 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ally (mlescaut), Friday, 3 October 2003 00:19 (twenty-two years ago)
― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Friday, 3 October 2003 03:50 (twenty-two years ago)
― adaml (adaml), Friday, 3 October 2003 06:21 (twenty-two years ago)
― sucka (sucka), Friday, 3 October 2003 08:03 (twenty-two years ago)
Yeah, I think that's it. I know it's hot, even if it's only in the reptilian center of my Brane.
...and if it looks a little mangy, it's coz she's been fucking and it's not as neat as it used to be.
― ModJ, Friday, 3 October 2003 13:22 (twenty-two years ago)
Don't look too closely at high-fashion models; they make this chick look chubby.
― j.lu (j.lu), Friday, 3 October 2003 16:11 (twenty-two years ago)
― teeny (teeny), Friday, 3 October 2003 16:46 (twenty-two years ago)
http://cache.eonline.com/Features/Awards/Golden2003/FashionPolice/Images/fash.boyle.jpg
― teeny (teeny), Friday, 3 October 2003 16:50 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ally (mlescaut), Friday, 3 October 2003 16:59 (twenty-two years ago)
― youn, Friday, 3 October 2003 20:18 (twenty-two years ago)
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 3 October 2003 22:13 (twenty-two years ago)
― Mary (Mary), Saturday, 4 October 2003 05:04 (twenty-two years ago)
― Laura, Saturday, 4 October 2003 05:23 (twenty-two years ago)
― Katheryne, Wednesday, 26 April 2006 21:59 (twenty years ago)