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is there a kind of tray for carrying books and if so does it have a name?

(like a kind of shelf but tipped onto its back corner so that the books are carried in the V of it?)

― mark s (mark s), Saturday, 27 December 2003 21:55 (twenty-two years ago)

where can i buy one?

― mark s (mark s), Saturday, 27 December 2003 21:55 (twenty-two years ago)

we haven't even established that it exists yet! you're getting ahead of yourself!

― amateur!st (amateurist), Saturday, 27 December 2003 21:58 (twenty-two years ago)

Some call it a "library trolley."

― Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Saturday, 27 December 2003 22:03 (twenty-two years ago)

That hasn't been updated since March 2000, though. Who knows what advances could have been made since then?

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Saturday, 27 December 2003 22:04 (twenty-two years ago)

no the thing i mean is just one shelf and you carry it on poles at the end

― mark s (mark s), Saturday, 27 December 2003 22:06 (twenty-two years ago)

maybe i dreamed it

― mark s (mark s), Saturday, 27 December 2003 22:06 (twenty-two years ago)

green baize wz involved

― mark s (mark s), Saturday, 27 December 2003 22:06 (twenty-two years ago)

That's a hod, isn't it?

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Saturday, 27 December 2003 22:08 (twenty-two years ago)

ESP is the ONLY technological advance in book-moving that could possibly improve upon the delightful functionality of the library trolley.

― Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Saturday, 27 December 2003 22:08 (twenty-two years ago)

What about LASERS, though? They can do anything!

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Saturday, 27 December 2003 22:09 (twenty-two years ago)

So can ESP. Look at Uri Gellar!

― Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Saturday, 27 December 2003 22:10 (twenty-two years ago)

where can i buy a two-handled book-hod?

― mark s (mark s), Saturday, 27 December 2003 22:10 (twenty-two years ago)

Look at Uri Gellar!

Hopkins to thread...

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Saturday, 27 December 2003 22:16 (twenty-two years ago)

Why do you need two handles? How are you going to be carrying it?

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Saturday, 27 December 2003 22:19 (twenty-two years ago)

with two hands!

― cozen. (Cozen), Saturday, 27 December 2003 22:21 (twenty-two years ago)

Ah, right - so the handles will be coming out from the side? Pointing forwards or sideways? can you draw a picture of this?

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Saturday, 27 December 2003 22:25 (twenty-two years ago)

Also - proper handles or a lip, like dinner trays?

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Saturday, 27 December 2003 22:25 (twenty-two years ago)

Carried in front of you?

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Saturday, 27 December 2003 22:27 (twenty-two years ago)

end view = -\___/-

side view = V

― mark s (mark s), Saturday, 27 December 2003 22:28 (twenty-two years ago)

Hmm.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Saturday, 27 December 2003 22:28 (twenty-two years ago)

That's four handles, isn't it?

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Saturday, 27 December 2003 22:28 (twenty-two years ago)

haha sorry the views shd be the other way around

also i can't draw the top edge of the first diagram

― mark s (mark s), Saturday, 27 December 2003 22:29 (twenty-two years ago)

Right, you're having the spines of the books roughly parallel or roughly perpendicular to your chest?

I think I sort of know what you're on about.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Saturday, 27 December 2003 22:31 (twenty-two years ago)

Though I've no idea where to get one. Just get a standard brickie's hod, sling em over your shoulder. Construction chic, sort of.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Saturday, 27 December 2003 22:32 (twenty-two years ago)

oh i saw one of these things at the bibliotheque de la ville de paris the other week! i have no idea what they're called in any language!

― amateur!st (amateurist), Saturday, 27 December 2003 22:37 (twenty-two years ago)

Right, so we've established they exist, nearest sighting so far being Paris. mark s is in Hackney.

The Quest Begins.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Saturday, 27 December 2003 22:39 (twenty-two years ago)

First you must venture unto the frozen wasteland, therein to slay a mighty worm.

― Matt (Matt), Saturday, 27 December 2003 23:02 (twenty-two years ago)

they're called library trucks. i'll ask my supervisor who we buy them from when she gets back from vacation next week.

― mike bott, Sunday, 28 December 2003 00:03 (twenty-two years ago)

is there a kind of tray for carrying books and if so does it have a name?

this is a question for Library Assistants.

― DV (dirtyvicar), Sunday, 28 December 2003 00:22 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.m-w.com/mw/art/hod.gif

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Sunday, 28 December 2003 01:36 (twenty-two years ago)

That's the Merriam-Webster illustration for "hod" by the way.

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Sunday, 28 December 2003 01:46 (twenty-two years ago)

Well there's something called a cradle. I don't know if their are mobile cradles.

― Rockist Scientist (rockistscientist), Sunday, 28 December 2003 02:36 (twenty-two years ago)

This looks close.

― Rockist Scientist (rockistscientist), Sunday, 28 December 2003 02:43 (twenty-two years ago)

You don't need books. Everything is on the internet.

― Rockist Scientist (rockistscientist), Sunday, 28 December 2003 03:15 (twenty-two years ago)

when i worked in a bookstore we had these things we called "v-carts" which were somewhat like your end- and side-views except they were tipped over and had wheels. my google-fu is failing me, though, so i cannot link you to one.

― mookieproof (mookieproof), Sunday, 28 December 2003 07:20 (twenty-two years ago)

I'll have a look in the library supplies catalogue when I go back to work, can you wait 'til the 5th of Jan?

― jel -- (jel), Sunday, 28 December 2003 11:11 (twenty-two years ago)

Our book trolleys are composed of numerous [things wot mark s is describing] which fit onto a central wheeled device (three on each side), tilted slightly from |_ to V kind of.

― Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Sunday, 28 December 2003 15:24 (twenty-two years ago)

two weeks pass...

REVIVE!!

― mark s (mark s), Monday, 12 January 2004 13:51 (twenty-two years ago)

Do you think you're going to get a new flood of helpful responses?

― Markelby (Mark C), Monday, 12 January 2004 13:57 (twenty-two years ago)

I trust jel to keep his promises!

― mark s (mark s), Monday, 12 January 2004 14:00 (twenty-two years ago)

so yes!!

― mark s (mark s), Monday, 12 January 2004 14:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Due to the terrifically dull nature of my job, I get to know lots about suppliers of all sorts of arcane crap. There's a company called Gresswell that who specialize in library supplies. They do something that looks like this:

http://www.gresswell.com/webprd_gress/product_block/D60/000001600.jpg

You could also try Librex, but they don't have an online catalogue you can look at.

― NickB (NickB), Monday, 12 January 2004 14:12 (twenty-two years ago)

NickB ur a god, that is exactly what I want!! Proof = look, it is ALREADY FULL OF MOOMINTROLL BOOKS!!

― mark s (mark s), Monday, 12 January 2004 14:19 (twenty-two years ago)

Your enthusiasm has made me want one too!

― marianna, Monday, 12 January 2004 14:22 (twenty-two years ago)

"Table-top book racks" all round then.

― NickB (NickB), Monday, 12 January 2004 14:23 (twenty-two years ago)

"Trentwood Book Trough" for wood-ophiles:

http://www.gresswell.com/webprd_gress/product_block/D55/000001550.jpg

― NickB (NickB), Monday, 12 January 2004 14:27 (twenty-two years ago)

blimey the book at the end THERE is JACK by A.M.Homes who i also love!! this is the best niche-marketing exercise in history!

― mark s (mark s), Monday, 12 January 2004 14:30 (twenty-two years ago)

NickB are you at this very minute burgling my flat by the magic of book hods, and merrily posting pix of yr swag as it leaves?

― mark s (mark s), Monday, 12 January 2004 14:33 (twenty-two years ago)

Got any Agaton Sax? If so, I soon will be...

― NickB (NickB), Monday, 12 January 2004 14:35 (twenty-two years ago)

Heh. My new Gresswell catalogue arrived this morning.

Wait... suss3x.ac.uk. Do you work in the Suss3x library Nick?

― Archel (Archel), Monday, 12 January 2004 14:45 (twenty-two years ago)

Hey, hi there! Yep, I'm at sussex, but in i.t., not in the library. Yourself?

― NickB (NickB), Monday, 12 January 2004 14:52 (twenty-two years ago)

crikey, there'll be an I Love Brighton board at this rate.....

― MarkH (MarkH), Monday, 12 January 2004 14:54 (twenty-two years ago)

Haha. I'm in the Language Learning Centre.

― Archel (Archel), Monday, 12 January 2004 15:02 (twenty-two years ago)

Just a short walk away from the best coffee on campus then. Nice one! ;o)

― NickB (NickB), Monday, 12 January 2004 15:13 (twenty-two years ago)

Awwww!

― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Monday, 12 January 2004 15:36 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh, I looked in the new Gresswell's catalogue on Friday, I was looking for something on wheels, dunno why I coulda sworn Mark mentioned a V-shaped trolley, but I got distracted by the hi-tech security scanners that they have. Oh, and this totally rad fold-up trolley.

― jel -- (jel), Monday, 12 January 2004 17:34 (twenty-two years ago)

I am totally turned on by the security systems too jel. Mainly because we will NEVER be allowed one and I will continue to be blamed for missing stock FOREVER. *wistful stroking of shiny pictures*

We just got one of these:
http://www.gresswell.com/webprd_gress/product_block/D11/000002110.jpg

― Archel (Archel), Monday, 12 January 2004 17:41 (twenty-two years ago)

eleven months pass...

OMG!

http://www.niso.org/standards/resources/ISBN.html

― teeny (teeny), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 16:42 (twenty-one years ago)

The response of my girlfriend (in Library school in Mississippi!!):

"holy shit!
It's like the monks compliing the billion names of buddha or whatever
It's Armageddon!"

― tokyo rosemary (rosemary), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 16:48 (twenty-one years ago)

I can't say I'm shocked or anything, just seems like something that was going to happen anyway.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 16:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Whoa. They turned it up to 13.

― Liz :x (Liz :x), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 16:52 (twenty-one years ago)

For when you need that little extra push unto the the shelf.

― Ken L (Ken L), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 16:55 (twenty-one years ago)

(Humbly submit that typo form might be better than correctly spelled version. At least without the extra fcuking "the')

― Ken L (Ken L), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 16:57 (twenty-one years ago)

oh my God! Think of the impact on AACR2!!!!!

― jel -- (jel), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 17:10 (twenty-one years ago)

Grrr. This will be nothing but a big headache.

― Leon the Fatboy (Ex Leon), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 17:12 (twenty-one years ago)

OTM.

― miccio (miccio), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 17:13 (twenty-one years ago)

But it will be a great boon to- who, COBOL programmers?

― Ken L (Ken L), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 17:14 (twenty-one years ago)

I never search by ISBN number anyway - give me an author or a title, and I'll find you damn book.

― jel -- (jel), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 17:19 (twenty-one years ago)

They needed to do it. Publishers ran out of numbers they could assign to new books.

― youn, Tuesday, 11 January 2005 17:21 (twenty-one years ago)

B-b-but:
It's fun to search by the I-S-B-N!

(xpost)

― Ken L (Ken L), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 17:22 (twenty-one years ago)

They needed to do it. Publishers ran out of numbers they could assign to new books.

This was my thought. Sorta like new area codes post-cell phone population explosion.

I really don't deal much with ISBNs at all unless I'm sending in an order to our acquisitions department, so the change will be a bit abstract.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 17:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Just because something is necessary doesn't mean I can't grouch and bitch about it!

― Leon the Fatboy (Ex Leon), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 17:28 (twenty-one years ago)

I've spent all day learning how to catalogue to AACR2 level 2 standard. I'm struck by the realisation that I'll probably never need to use it in my job.

― jel -- (jel), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 17:29 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm all for that. (xpost)

― youn, Tuesday, 11 January 2005 17:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Great. My brain is wired to visualizing those ten-digit numbers. It will be awkward. Typing in those extra numbers will no doubt add about another half an hour or so of labor to my day. Kiss ilxing goodbye, then...

― k3rry (dymaxia), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 17:33 (twenty-one years ago)

This may affect acquisitions a little bit. I sometimes search for books to purchase using the ISBN. Three numbers, no big deal.

― Trip Maker (Sean Witzman), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 17:33 (twenty-one years ago)

they should make the extras letters with acsents!

― jel -- (jel), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 17:34 (twenty-one years ago)

I can just imagine the glitches in various catalogues, databases and pacs though. They are all glitchy enough without the extra numbers.

― Leon the Fatboy (Ex Leon), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 17:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh, it's not until 2007 at least. But yeah, knowing what I know about library database glitches, it will take another two or so years for all of the problems to be cleared up.

― k3rry (dymaxia), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 17:41 (twenty-one years ago)

I am heartened that ILX is so up in arms about this.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 17:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, it's really sad. I've heard that because the market for library systems is so small, they don't have very good programmers working on them. Yet they are so useful and necessary. (xpost)

― youn, Tuesday, 11 January 2005 17:44 (twenty-one years ago)

I've yet to hear anything from anyone else here at UCI but I suspect a few of my friends here will be venting soon enough.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 17:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Imagine the OCLC upgrades...jesus.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 17:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh, it's not until 2007 at least. But yeah, knowing what I know about library database glitches, it will take another two or so years for all of the problems to be cleared up

Imagine the OCLC upgrades...jesus.

It's not like it was for Y2K I don't think. Most of our newer systems are written in Java/Oracle and the fix is pretty simple. I don't know how many cobol (or whatever) systems still exist. (Around here, I mean.) The bigger institutions hopefully have switched to new technology and the smaller ones hopefully never installed much in the first place.

That's my guess.

― dave225 (Dave225), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 17:49 (twenty-one years ago)

dave225, you work for OCLC?! Note, my comment was about vendor programmers and may no longer be true.

― youn, Tuesday, 11 January 2005 17:51 (twenty-one years ago)

I do, but I am not speaking for them officially. I am a lowly employee.

― dave225 (Dave225), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 17:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Heh, nice to have some inside word. So you guys actually control the world, though, right?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 17:54 (twenty-one years ago)

damn straight.

― dave225 (Dave225), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 17:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Not meaning to insult OCLC directly, just thinking more of how my library just seems to have major problems whenever we try to upgrade anything, mostly because we have student CT staff who really don't know what they are doing most of the time and forget to relink things. Our Unicode upgrade took three times as long as it should have last week.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 17:58 (twenty-one years ago)

I do use WorldCat for my orders. I was amused to note that when you upgraded the web interface and other such things a couple of years ago that the UC had to hop to and revamp the CDL in accordance with that.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 17:58 (twenty-one years ago)

You guys could probably tell me more about the way things work than I can tell you, actually. ...Since you actually use the products.

― dave225 (Dave225), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 18:03 (twenty-one years ago)

I can tell you though that we have some top-notch developers, and OCLC is actually a pretty coveted gig, if you're a developer in Ohio. And our testing and processes are all pretty together too. In case your impression was otherwise...

― dave225 (Dave225), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 18:06 (twenty-one years ago)

I use CatME in my work. The problems I'm worried about are not OCLC-connected, though, I've had very few OCLC-related problems. We have link-ups to vendor websites, where they send us MARC records and order confirmations and things, and there are already enough glitches, where the ISBN doesn't match the title, or they send us the wrong title with a similar ISBN and so forth.

― k3rry (dymaxia), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 18:14 (twenty-one years ago)

xpost:
'Tis the nature of computer system to be fuxx0red. Especially when new releases occur. The programmer is always greater on the other side of the firewall.

― Ken L (Ken L), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 18:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Meanwhile, shifting subjects a touch but still talking about librarians, this story is very cool (LA Times story, registration needed I think). One large reason I am uninterested in pursuing a librarian career full on is that I absolutely know I would not have the patience with that kind of job, I am much more a behind-the-scenes person and already feel deeply frustrated with what I (probably but not *entirely* unfairly) regard as lazy undergrads who want to be spoonfed, so it's nice to see someone who does have the ability to reach out the right way for far more difficult patrons to be recognized for it.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 18:26 (twenty-one years ago)

Interesting timing on that story. I'm on the board of a Settlement House (we work with needy/homeless people & senior citizens) and we're looking for ways to tie-in with the local libraries so people know where to go for help.

― dave225 (Dave225), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 18:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Librarian-types and library fans might be interested in this:

Florida study finds that public libraries return $6.54 for every $1.00 invested.

The comprehensive study to assess taxpayer return-on-investment in Florida’s public libraries used a variety of data collection and analysis methods, including the public library annual data reports to the State Library and Archives of Florida, a statewide household telephone survey of adults, in-library surveys of adults, a follow-up survey of the libraries, surveys of organizations, such as businesses and schools, and an input-output econometric model. Key findings:

Overall, Florida’s public libraries return $6.54 for every $1.00 invested from all sources.

For every $6,448 spent on public libraries from public funding sources in Florida, one job is created.

For every dollar of public support spent on public libraries in Florida, gross regional product increases by $9.08.

For every dollar of public support spent on public libraries in Florida, income (wages) increases by $12.66.

The full, boring article.

― dave225 (Dave225), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 16:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Good to hear. Someone please turf up some similar stats for the UK so everyone will just get off our backs.

― Archel (Archel), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 16:44 (twenty-one years ago)

You would think that with that in mind, there wouldn't be so many cutbacks in public libraries.

― Yr3k (dymaxia), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 17:03 (twenty-one years ago)

You would think a lot of things that seem to be logical .. and GW Bushco has proven you wrong time and time again, fool.

― dave225 (Dave225), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 17:05 (twenty-one years ago)

I am going to become a bail bondsman.

― Leon the Fatboy (Ex Leon), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 18:43 (twenty-one years ago)

two months pass...

FYI
If you are a librarian or educator .. Border's is giving 25% off this weekend. (With proof - payckeck stub or ID)

(DVDs 15%, electronics 10%)

― dave225 (Dave225), Monday, 11 April 2005 18:58 (twenty-one years ago)

in the end i got two trentwood book troughs!

― mark s (mark s), Monday, 11 April 2005 19:05 (twenty-one years ago)

The trentwood troughs looked sharp. What I want is one of those massive bookcases that are built into the wall, but that seems like a bit of a pipe dream.

― Leon WK (Ex Leon), Monday, 11 April 2005 20:23 (twenty-one years ago)

they have rounded edges leon!

― mark s (mark s), Monday, 11 April 2005 20:24 (twenty-one years ago)

I know! This is u&k.

― Leon WK (Ex Leon), Monday, 11 April 2005 20:28 (twenty-one years ago)

25%? Awesome!

― stephen morris (stephen morris), Monday, 11 April 2005 20:33 (twenty-one years ago)

I am trying to decide between a career teaching high school English and a career as a librarian. Has anyone done both or either? Pros and cons?

― Mary (Mary), Monday, 11 April 2005 22:27 (twenty-one years ago)

school librarian!

― tokyo nursery school: afternoon session (rosemary), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 02:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Librarian - pros - keeper of knowledge, it's not an office job, simple things like getting someones book/article for them can lead to high praise, wear what you like, people watching, slack times. It's the best job for those who can't really decide. Cons - not that well paid, you can't call yourself a librarian without a load of extra studying.

I woulda thought teaching would be pretty awful, as adolescents would be involved.

― jel -- (jel), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 16:15 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm not either, but I would choose librarian... Librarian means a lot of things, and you can change the type of work you do and still be a librarian. Teacher involves kids (feh) and worse, school boards.

― dave225 (Dave225), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 17:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Trentwood troughs are those huge wooden suckers with handlegrips at either end? Or am I thinking of something else? (Because I have four of those, most handy for CD organizing.)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 17:08 (twenty-one years ago)

they're not huge exactly

― mark s (mark s), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 17:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Whenever I carry...well, whatever these things are...they sure feel it. But this is perhaps me.

Hey wait! Change of subject but you DID see that Master Mind story/thread revival last week, yeah?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 17:20 (twenty-one years ago)

I like the young people and teaching seems a noble endeavor, but in practice the pitfalls seem more potent--becoming a disciplinarian interests me not.

Librarian seems to offer some degree of self-suffiency?

― Mary (Mary), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 17:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Hmmm, maybe I'll go to Border's and pick up the Jimmy Bosch CD from last year.

― RS, Tuesday, 12 April 2005 20:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Mary, you could work for the Congressional Research Service at the Library of Congress and set the record straight on important matters like this:

Frist and other Republicans contend that changing the filibuster rule would apply to only judicial nominees and would not affect the right of the minority party to filibuster legislation. But in a report made public Tuesday, the nonpartisan Congressional Research Service, Congress' research arm, disagreed with that analysis.
If "a change to the rules were accomplished by a majority vote, nothing would prevent other changes to the rules from being proposed, which could then conceivably be accomplished with a majority vote to end debate on them as well," the research service wrote. (6 Votes of Separation Over Filibuster)

Really, an ideal job!

― youn, Wednesday, 13 April 2005 20:11 (twenty-one years ago)

one month passes...

Anyone going to ALA at the end of June?

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Thursday, 2 June 2005 15:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Probably not :)

Will they have comics?

― jel -- (jel), Thursday, 2 June 2005 16:01 (twenty-one years ago)

They have an entire GRAPHIC NOVELS PAVILION this year!

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Thursday, 2 June 2005 17:01 (twenty-one years ago)

I dunno, working in a library means the idea of going to where a bunch of librarians nationwide are gathering gives me the heebie jeebies.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 2 June 2005 17:05 (twenty-one years ago)

I wish! Despite all the great things about working for this college, they have been very stingy about paying for things like conferences and the like. I heard about the graphic novels pavillion, it sounds great!

Maybe next year we should organize an ala mega-fap.

― Leon hearts Crazy Frog (Ex Leon), Thursday, 2 June 2005 17:08 (twenty-one years ago)

(Also as a library assistant I'd have to make an extremely good case for going, which would probably not involve "I would like to see the graphic novels pavilion." ;-) )

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 2 June 2005 17:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Graphic Novels Pavilion, damn!

― jel -- (jel), Thursday, 2 June 2005 17:47 (twenty-one years ago)

This is the first year they are allowing lowly staff peons to go. I am not ashamed that I am going for the graphic novels pavilion. And the free books, pencils, etc.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Thursday, 2 June 2005 18:06 (twenty-one years ago)

"They" being the university my employers, not ALA itself.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Thursday, 2 June 2005 18:06 (twenty-one years ago)

The Fonz is going to be there!

― jel -- (jel), Thursday, 2 June 2005 18:10 (twenty-one years ago)

Perhaps, going to the ALA conference should have been my dissertation subject.

― jel -- (jel), Thursday, 2 June 2005 18:12 (twenty-one years ago)

It could have been like a school report, "I went to the ALA, and saw the Fonz, I liked the comics best"

― jel -- (jel), Thursday, 2 June 2005 18:15 (twenty-one years ago)

The Fonz is also Barry Zuckercorn, he is grebt.

― Leon hearts Crazy Frog (Ex Leon), Thursday, 2 June 2005 18:23 (twenty-one years ago)

two years pass...

If only there was something that could help this person:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2305/2227185021_32663bf7fa_o.png

― StanM, Tuesday, 29 January 2008 08:08 (eighteen years ago)

duh - it's on digg & reddit already as well. sorry :-/

― StanM, Tuesday, 29 January 2008 08:23 (eighteen years ago)

eight months pass...

Tonight I am doing my first shift in the college library. I am essentially security rather than a librarian, but getting paid to use the internet/do my PhD means I'm not complaining. 9pm - 2am Wednesdays and Sundays until Christmas.

― caek, Wednesday, 8 October 2008 17:48 (seventeen years ago)

I did a couple of quarters of night shifts like that when I started here (thankfully not as late as that). I admit I was glad to leave them behind.

― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 8 October 2008 17:53 (seventeen years ago)

My brain doesn't really get going until after dinner, so these are perfect for me. Unfortunately in 2009 I will be replaced by a machine.

― caek, Wednesday, 8 October 2008 19:04 (seventeen years ago)

security robot?

― velko, Wednesday, 8 October 2008 19:10 (seventeen years ago)

http://www.jennycakesbakery.com/images/photos/robot%20cake.jpg

robot caek

― nabisco, Wednesday, 8 October 2008 19:12 (seventeen years ago)

Haha, I am in a Faraday Cage here. No wireless, no phone reception. I am using Internet Explorer to type this, which I don't think I've done since the 90s. Good times.

― caek, Wednesday, 8 October 2008 22:27 (seventeen years ago)

I am actually getting work done and thinking about shit for the first time since the 90s too.

― caek, Wednesday, 8 October 2008 22:27 (seventeen years ago)

three weeks pass...

physics department library rip : (

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f325/caek/Image028.jpg

― ✓ ✔ ☑ vote LJ! (caek), Tuesday, 4 November 2008 22:03 (seventeen years ago)

I guess no one has touched those journals in ten years

― ✓ ✔ ☑ vote LJ! (caek), Tuesday, 4 November 2008 22:04 (seventeen years ago)

Still sad though.

― "John Kerry dissed me, I'm trippin!" (Nicole), Tuesday, 4 November 2008 22:05 (seventeen years ago)

:-( that's the way our journals are going too I'm afraid.

― Neil S, Tuesday, 4 November 2008 22:08 (seventeen years ago)

I helped out with clearing a lot of journals over the past few weeks that we have access to via JSTOR. I admit I'm not really sentimental about seeing the print volumes go.

― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 4 November 2008 22:09 (seventeen years ago)

I have been doing physics since 1999 and I have needed a print journal once in that time.

― ✓ ✔ ☑ vote LJ! (caek), Tuesday, 4 November 2008 22:09 (seventeen years ago)

I work at a place dedicated to storing those forgotten books, journals, memorabilia donated by long forgotten local-celebrities, etc. Go U of T and it's 4th or so biggest library on the continent.

― Their time's limited, hard rocks, too (mehlt), Tuesday, 4 November 2008 22:52 (seventeen years ago)

They're actually being skipped, and not sent to offsite storage? I hope somebody's checked the RSL has copies.

(But then I am an incorrigible hoarder)

― device may be used to practice dribbling (a passing spacecadet), Tuesday, 4 November 2008 23:24 (seventeen years ago)

The RSL has enough copies of these things to control time

― ✓ ✔ ☑ vote LJ! (caek), Tuesday, 4 November 2008 23:26 (seventeen years ago)

seven months pass...

Kudos to Virginia Plain and team for being named Library Of The Year.

― barney kestrel (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 15 June 2009 18:14 (seventeen years ago)

Thanks; I think we get a pizza party.

― Virginia Plain, Tuesday, 16 June 2009 00:04 (seventeen years ago)

Nothing wrong with that!

― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 16 June 2009 00:14 (seventeen years ago)

Just don't handle the books afterwards with greasy pizza fingers! Especially those Library Of America Cheevers.

― barney kestrel (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 16 June 2009 15:33 (seventeen years ago)

Also, we don't get laid off; thanks Bloomberg.

― Virginia Plain, Tuesday, 16 June 2009 17:26 (seventeen years ago)

GOOD WORK, VP.
Serious relief from my other librarian friend yesterday at the budget news.

― ian, Tuesday, 16 June 2009 18:01 (seventeen years ago)

and still six-day service
(xp)

― barney kestrel (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 16 June 2009 18:02 (seventeen years ago)

sister just got hired as the librarian at a private girl's school in california where steve jobs sends his daughter

― (pronounced /ˈfɑrv/sklOf/tO/fewˈ/) (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 16 June 2009 18:14 (seventeen years ago)

Does Ari Gold send his daughter there too?

― barney kestrel (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 17 June 2009 01:45 (sixteen years ago)

i think the enrollment is primarily nonfictional

― (pronounced /ˈfɑrv/sklOf/tO/fewˈ/) (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 17 June 2009 01:55 (sixteen years ago)

Ah yes, that's a sound policy.

― barney kestrel (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 17 June 2009 02:03 (sixteen years ago)

one year passes...

Kudos to Virginia Plain and company for the infrastructure upgrade and the new self-scan-and-sort book return system. Sorry about the book buying budget though.

― Never Make Your Moog Too Soon (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 31 January 2011 21:23 (fifteen years ago)

four years pass...

Did any of you guys download the free poster from Carel Press. Also, is there a more active librarian thread?

― Starman Jones said it's 2 legit 2 quit (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 22 January 2016 01:34 (ten years ago)

three years pass...

bump, any other ilx librarians still about

― devvvine, Saturday, 26 October 2019 15:47 (six years ago)

Yup, though I'm between jobs at the moment. You know how this field is.

― OneSecondBefore, Saturday, 26 October 2019 16:37 (six years ago)

I am eternal.

― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 26 October 2019 17:10 (six years ago)

connected 4 life. thankfully managed to fall into a fulltime library assistant position just as i finished library school a couple of months ago which was v lucky. been putting off looking for actual 'qualified' jobs atm.

― devvvine, Saturday, 26 October 2019 17:38 (six years ago)

five months pass...

I'm trying to do a quick research project for my resource-limited, non-profit community senior services agency. It would be a piece of cake if I had EBSCO access but I don't now that I am no longer a student. Anyone out there who could help?

― mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Friday, 27 March 2020 17:55 (six years ago)

only have access to the film and tv lit database on ebsco, would that be of help?

― devvvine, Friday, 27 March 2020 18:11 (six years ago)

I need AgeLine. But thank you for responding!

― mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Friday, 27 March 2020 18:22 (six years ago)

best of luck!

― devvvine, Friday, 27 March 2020 20:21 (six years ago)

I don't have AgeLine but I appear to have access to something called "Abstracts in Social Gerontology" though NB I never use these databases so I don't really have any idea what I'm looking at / doing - but if there's something specific I can search for in here let me know...

If you need AgeLine specifically, sorry, good luck!

― a passing spacecadet, Friday, 27 March 2020 20:50 (six years ago)

I think I scraped together enough, but I may hit you up on that offer later. Thank you, very kind!

― mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Friday, 27 March 2020 23:16 (six years ago)

no problem, good luck with your research paper!

I'm going to bed now (sorry if this is bad timing) but will no doubt be around tomorrow morning uk time if there is something I can try to track down for you.

― a passing spacecadet, Friday, 27 March 2020 23:28 (six years ago)

three months pass...

So these last few months my focus has been shifting from in-person access work to online, obviously -- but also to help our archivists here in some big projects. I'm currently engaged in others as well -- just finished up some work today with a big new one that should get a lot of attention when it is ready -- but here's a nice piece just published on our site about two of the other ones that have been completed:

https://www.library.ucsf.edu/news/new-ways-of-working-together/

― Ned Raggett, Friday, 17 July 2020 16:03 (five years ago)

one year passes...

Well, these next couple of days will be interesting:

https://libraries.universityofcalifornia.edu/sils

And as a result of that, as of a few hours from now, Millennium will no longer be used by us. Which is a weird kinda farewell -- to quote myself from FB: Since my first formal day of work at the UCI Libraries on January 2, 1997, I have used, one way or another, this piece of software up to the present day through my UCSF Libraries work. It went through updates, iterations, changes, but Millennium just chugged along, and like the name implied it really comes from a place in the mid-to late 90s Windows universe in particular, something that did the job but was often slow, clunky and weird. What felt vaguely half-futuristic rapidly wasn't, and as other programming approaches took hold it REALLY showed its age. Later today use of Millennium will stop as the entire UC library system is about to switch over in a long-planned move to a unified top to bottom entity via the Primo/Alma web-based software from ExLibris, and I'm sure there will be growing pains and quirks and so forth. I am really interested to see how that works out, THAT feels like the future in a fascinating way. But this clunky, slow, sometimes painfully annoying software did the work all this time, and I have no more romance to offer than that, certainly no melancholy or sadness. It'll just be weird never to see the darn thing again.

― Ned Raggett, Friday, 23 July 2021 16:18 (four years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35pSI-HOirM

― Hans Holbein (Chinchilla Volapük), Monday, 26 July 2021 04:47 (four years ago)

We switched to Alma/Primo back in 2015. We were using Voyager before

― treefell, Monday, 26 July 2021 10:00 (four years ago)

Ex Libris have a seriously dominant stake in Academic libraries now. It will be interesting to see how things develop with their latest ownership group

― treefell, Monday, 26 July 2021 10:01 (four years ago)

I'm at a weird special library where we STILL use Voyager. But our IT/Systems team is seriously understaffed and under-budgeted so a migration is probably not in the cards for a while. That'll be a real headache.

Voyager definitely shows its age (particularly its OPAC) but it still does the job decently well for us.

― OneSecondBefore, Monday, 26 July 2021 13:29 (four years ago)

Different topic, but Anne Helen Petersen has some thoughts about the way the MLIS has evolved into basically a mandatory degree if you want a living wage in libraries: https://annehelen.substack.com/p/the-masters-trap-part-two-069

It’s not a question of being a lower-paid librarian or a higher-paid librarian; it’s a question of being a staff member who doesn’t make enough to live on or figuring out a way to fund your MLIS. And then, even if you do make it into a program, there are too many people with master’s degrees and too few jobs for them.

― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Monday, 26 July 2021 13:38 (four years ago)

in the end i bought two book hods (not correct term) from gresswell as advised by NickB q17 yrs ago and I still use them a lot, they do the job they are designed for!

sometimws ilx is good!

― mark s, Monday, 26 July 2021 13:42 (four years ago)

ann helen petersen otm

― Linda and Jodie Rocco (map), Monday, 26 July 2021 15:10 (four years ago)

the honest truth is that all graduate school and possibly all undergrad is a shakedown scam. if anyone asks me about graduate school (and no one does), i will tell them not to go, or to drop out if they're currently enrolled.

― Linda and Jodie Rocco (map), Monday, 26 July 2021 15:13 (four years ago)

I can see her point there. I've been happily able to live without an MLIS in the field -- and arguably I feel better all around because of it -- but then again my pay increases over time are the reasons why, thanks to both hanging in there and whatever quality and skill I have that's been recognized (including a full reclass in 2008 -- just before the recession, thankfully). And I've been working in it for almost a quarter of a century. Current entry level? *shakes head*

― Ned Raggett, Monday, 26 July 2021 15:20 (four years ago)

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