anyway, i am due to arrive in sf on may5, and leave early on the 9th.
so this is the thread for, well, me, i guess. where i ask if anyone is around at this time, if anyone wants to do a fap, and also to ask advice, what are the things i definitely should do in sf, where is the best place to stay, those kind of things...
over to you!
― gareth (gareth), Thursday, 29 April 2004 22:19 (twenty-two years ago)
― dean!dean!dean (deangulberry), Thursday, 29 April 2004 22:29 (twenty-two years ago)
― kyle (akmonday), Thursday, 29 April 2004 22:32 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 29 April 2004 23:18 (twenty-two years ago)
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 29 April 2004 23:43 (twenty-two years ago)
― lauren (laurenp), Thursday, 29 April 2004 23:59 (twenty-two years ago)
― gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 30 April 2004 01:56 (twenty-two years ago)
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 30 April 2004 02:06 (twenty-two years ago)
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 30 April 2004 03:05 (twenty-two years ago)
Maybe we could "do" Amoeba on Friday afternoon? I'm not actually working that day.
For things to see, SF is a relatively small city, so the best thing is to get lost for the first day or so you are here. And be prepared to do some walking up some crazy hills. Of all the "obvious" sights, I would still take any visitor to Alcatraz and probably Coit Tower if the weather is nice. For the less obvious, these are useful:
Things to do in San FranciscoSan Francisco and what to do in itsan francisco classic or dud
I also recommend visiting the East Bay, officially the best place on earth.
― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Friday, 30 April 2004 14:20 (twenty-two years ago)
― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Friday, 30 April 2004 14:22 (twenty-two years ago)
― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Friday, 30 April 2004 14:24 (twenty-two years ago)
did any of you guys go to the !!!, LCD Soundsystem show last night?
― JaXoN (JasonD), Friday, 30 April 2004 15:58 (twenty-two years ago)
― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Friday, 30 April 2004 16:00 (twenty-two years ago)
― ambrose (ambrose), Friday, 30 April 2004 16:09 (twenty-two years ago)
Me and Jen are going tonite, @d@m, but we probably won't be there until around midnight. Let me know if you are still going and we'll look for you.
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 30 April 2004 18:25 (twenty-two years ago)
― JaXoN (JasonD), Friday, 30 April 2004 18:59 (twenty-two years ago)
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 30 April 2004 20:10 (twenty-two years ago)
― JaXoN (JasonD), Friday, 30 April 2004 20:18 (twenty-two years ago)
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 30 April 2004 20:20 (twenty-two years ago)
― gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 30 April 2004 20:23 (twenty-two years ago)
but they are really very fun live (for some reason everyone in the UK seems to think they're sloppy and a shambles; they've never been anything but wildly impressive musically out here, so I don't know what that's about).
― kyle (akmonday), Friday, 30 April 2004 20:41 (twenty-two years ago)
― gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 30 April 2004 20:44 (twenty-two years ago)
― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Friday, 30 April 2004 20:48 (twenty-two years ago)
― JaXoN (JasonD), Friday, 30 April 2004 20:52 (twenty-two years ago)
― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Friday, 30 April 2004 20:53 (twenty-two years ago)
― JaXoN (JasonD), Friday, 30 April 2004 21:07 (twenty-two years ago)
― kyle (akmonday), Friday, 30 April 2004 21:08 (twenty-two years ago)
Besides you're married, you ain't got no technique!
― gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 30 April 2004 21:23 (twenty-two years ago)
alright, i got no technique. i was gonna ask you for some tips.
― JaXoN (JasonD), Friday, 30 April 2004 22:16 (twenty-two years ago)
http://www.niagara.edu/neworder/graphics/fact275cfront.jpg
What?
*flees*
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 30 April 2004 23:01 (twenty-two years ago)
I would pay big money to have seen the look on your face at that exact moment.
Still, it could have been worse-she could have been "one of the Animal Collective hyped youth of today"!
;)
― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Friday, 30 April 2004 23:15 (twenty-two years ago)
If you want to hang with the AsiaKitty you can do so with her chaperone.
possibilities:
It's A's Vs. Yankees on the night of the 6th at the Oakland Coliseum.
I can give you a comprehensive tour of the SF bay area via car on thurs or fri?
and heck, all the hipster bars are right outside my door...can check the paper for location of any appropriate rock and roll.
If you're serious, email me since I tend to book up fast.
I may be going shooting thursday or friday.
heck, you can come shooting if you like although I don't think that's part of the SF tourist experience unless you are a Dirty Harry fan, and ammo is expensive, so bring cash.
In any case,
Welcome! and have fun.
― BurmaKitty (BurmaKitty), Saturday, 1 May 2004 04:01 (twenty-two years ago)
I'm not having much of a chance to check back here, but I'm still in.
― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Monday, 3 May 2004 14:34 (twenty-two years ago)
http://www.sfstation.com/bars/vesuviocafe/
Yes. Vesuvio's. 6. 6:30. Friday night.
― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Monday, 3 May 2004 16:34 (twenty-two years ago)
― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Monday, 3 May 2004 16:35 (twenty-two years ago)
― kyle (akmonday), Monday, 3 May 2004 16:36 (twenty-two years ago)
― kyle (akmonday), Monday, 3 May 2004 16:37 (twenty-two years ago)
Burritos.
― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Monday, 3 May 2004 16:39 (twenty-two years ago)
― kyle (akmonday), Monday, 3 May 2004 16:43 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 3 May 2004 16:44 (twenty-two years ago)
― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Monday, 3 May 2004 16:44 (twenty-two years ago)
On the blood of englishmen and a bunch of shoegaze 7"s.
― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Monday, 3 May 2004 16:45 (twenty-two years ago)
I survive by carefully measuring out the medications.
― kyle (akmonday), Monday, 3 May 2004 16:46 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 3 May 2004 16:47 (twenty-two years ago)
On Saturday, I spent an hour sitting at a BBQ listening to a story about how Slipknot harnessed themselves to a rotating stage, which the flipped over 180 degrees, but those badass motherfuckers just kept on playing...
― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Monday, 3 May 2004 16:54 (twenty-two years ago)
― kyle (akmonday), Monday, 3 May 2004 16:55 (twenty-two years ago)
― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Monday, 3 May 2004 16:56 (twenty-two years ago)
― kyle (akmonday), Monday, 3 May 2004 16:57 (twenty-two years ago)
― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Monday, 3 May 2004 17:03 (twenty-two years ago)
― kyle (akmonday), Monday, 3 May 2004 17:06 (twenty-two years ago)
so is it ez5 or vesuvio's? can anyone else vote?
― kyle (akmonday), Monday, 3 May 2004 17:11 (twenty-two years ago)
― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Monday, 3 May 2004 17:21 (twenty-two years ago)
― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Monday, 3 May 2004 17:22 (twenty-two years ago)
― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Monday, 3 May 2004 17:26 (twenty-two years ago)
the east bay sucks and I live there. Unless we do it at your house.
JaXon I saw you at crate and barrel on Sunday (I think) but I was way across the store and didn't feel like yelling.
― kyle (akmonday), Monday, 3 May 2004 17:33 (twenty-two years ago)
el gran taco = decent place that just got remodeled and took a price hike over on broadway btw kearney/montgomery, nothing special except they have mexican bbq chicken that is pretty tasty on occasion.
ez5 on friday night is great, i'm pretty sure jax0n's friend DJ's there (note to JaX0n: it's actually m@1i@'s friend, do you know him?), last time i went it was a pretty ILX UK format-ready (kompakt, timbaland, dfa).
― gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 3 May 2004 17:39 (twenty-two years ago)
― stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 3 May 2004 17:40 (twenty-two years ago)
― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Monday, 3 May 2004 17:42 (twenty-two years ago)
― kyle (akmonday), Monday, 3 May 2004 17:44 (twenty-two years ago)
JaXoN is so grown up with his SoMa loft and his Crate & Barrel browsing.
East Bay-bashing is so boring, Kyle.
― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Monday, 3 May 2004 17:45 (twenty-two years ago)
― gareth (gareth), Monday, 3 May 2004 17:45 (twenty-two years ago)
― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Monday, 3 May 2004 17:46 (twenty-two years ago)
he was carrying a rug! which is what I was buying as well. obviously, it's the place for rugs.
― kyle (akmonday), Monday, 3 May 2004 17:48 (twenty-two years ago)
― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Monday, 3 May 2004 17:49 (twenty-two years ago)
― kyle (akmonday), Monday, 3 May 2004 17:50 (twenty-two years ago)
― gareth (gareth), Monday, 3 May 2004 17:51 (twenty-two years ago)
*checking, Gareth*
― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Monday, 3 May 2004 17:53 (twenty-two years ago)
i'm gonna be in LA this weekend for Mother's day. probably leaving friday early afternoon
― ihttp://zero.offwhite.net/sk/keysmo.gif (JasonD), Monday, 3 May 2004 18:14 (twenty-two years ago)
― JaXoN (JasonD), Monday, 3 May 2004 18:14 (twenty-two years ago)
― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Monday, 3 May 2004 18:17 (twenty-two years ago)
*cough*
― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Monday, 3 May 2004 18:18 (twenty-two years ago)
― kyle (akmonday), Monday, 3 May 2004 18:23 (twenty-two years ago)
― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Monday, 3 May 2004 18:30 (twenty-two years ago)
― tokyo rosemary (rosemary), Monday, 3 May 2004 19:17 (twenty-two years ago)
I need
a)A rugb)Some nighstandsc)some lampsd)Some picture frames and/or printse)Storagef)cd racksg)garden furniture
Anyway...
― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Monday, 3 May 2004 19:24 (twenty-two years ago)
― kyle (akmonday), Monday, 3 May 2004 20:16 (twenty-two years ago)
― gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 3 May 2004 20:16 (twenty-two years ago)
― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Monday, 3 May 2004 20:18 (twenty-two years ago)
― kyle (akmonday), Monday, 3 May 2004 20:18 (twenty-two years ago)
― gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 3 May 2004 20:19 (twenty-two years ago)
You could also just drive around and look in people's back yards and then take their garden furniture in the middle of the night.
― kyle (akmonday), Monday, 3 May 2004 20:19 (twenty-two years ago)
http://www.anglianwater.co.uk/assets/Paddling%20Pool.jpg
"No", she says, "they're for children".
― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Monday, 3 May 2004 20:34 (twenty-two years ago)
― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Monday, 3 May 2004 20:35 (twenty-two years ago)
― kyle (akmonday), Monday, 3 May 2004 20:56 (twenty-two years ago)
― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Monday, 3 May 2004 20:57 (twenty-two years ago)
― JaXoN (JasonD), Monday, 3 May 2004 21:41 (twenty-two years ago)
― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Monday, 3 May 2004 21:43 (twenty-two years ago)
― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Monday, 3 May 2004 21:44 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 3 May 2004 21:44 (twenty-two years ago)
*Resists obvious length vs girth "joke"*
― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Monday, 3 May 2004 21:46 (twenty-two years ago)
As opposed to the heartless genre and color order other's use.
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 3 May 2004 22:36 (twenty-two years ago)
― kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 00:41 (twenty-two years ago)
Selling England By The Pound [ORIGINAL RECORDING REMASTERED] ~ Genesis (Audio CD)
Duke [ORIGINAL RECORDING REMASTERED] ~ Genesis (Audio CD)
The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway [ORIGINAL RECORDING REMASTERED] ~ Genesis (Audio CD)
Wind & Wuthering [ORIGINAL RECORDING REMASTERED] ~ Genesis (Audio CD)
Foxtrot [ORIGINAL RECORDING REMASTERED] ~ Genesis (Audio CD)
Nursery Cryme [ORIGINAL RECORDING REMASTERED] ~ Genesis (Audio CD)
And Then There Were Three [ORIGINAL RECORDING REMASTERED] ~ Genesis (Audio CD)
Abacab [ORIGINAL RECORDING REMASTERED] ~ Genesis (Audio CD)
Trespass ~ Genesis (Audio CD)
We Can't Dance ~ Genesis (Audio CD)
Genesis ~ Genesis (Audio CD)
From Genesis to Revelation ~ Genesis (Audio CD)
Calling All Stations ~ Genesis (Audio CD)
Invisible Touch ~ Genesis (Audio CD)
Genesis Archives, Vol. 2: 1976-1992 [BOX SET] ~ Genesis (Audio CD)
Genesis Archive, Vol. 1: 1967-1975 [BOX SET] ~ Genesis (Audio CD)
Seconds Out [ORIGINAL RECORDING REMASTERED] ~ Genesis (Audio CD)
Genesis Live [ORIGINAL RECORDING REMASTERED] [LIVE] ~ Genesis (Audio CD)
Genesis Live: The Way We Walk, Vol. 2 (The Longs) [LIVE] ~ Genesis (Audio CD)
Genesis Live: The Way We Walk, Vol. 1 (The Shorts) [LIVE] ~ Genesis (Audio CD)
Turn It On Again: The Hits ~ Genesis (Audio CD)
― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 01:01 (twenty-two years ago)
― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 01:02 (twenty-two years ago)
― kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 01:08 (twenty-two years ago)
― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 01:11 (twenty-two years ago)
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 01:24 (twenty-two years ago)
Yes, Spin described it as sounding"like Tony Bennett drowning in a giant colostomy bag". Fred Durst does backing vocals on a few tracks.
― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 01:31 (twenty-two years ago)
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 01:34 (twenty-two years ago)
― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 01:36 (twenty-two years ago)
http://sanfrancisco.citysearch.com/profile/40080519?cslink=roundup_name_noncust&ulink=roundup__roundupentity1-9_1__0_profile_5_1
Bar/Club
Club EZ5
682 Commercial StSan Francisco, CA 94111 Cross Street: Kearny Street Phone: (415) 362-9321
Editorial Rating: Recommended
DJs, diversity and dice fuel this alluring retro-Asian lounge.
The SceneTucked on an unassuming side street at the crossroads of the Financial District and Chinatown, EZ5 mirrors the eclectic junction at which it sits. Chinese hipsters settle in early on plush red couches and beanbags, carrying on jovial games of Chinese dice. Meanwhile, attractive Westerners mingle around the blue-lit bar and adjacent turntables where DJs spin a range of grooves (house to hip-hop). The classroom-sized space glows Chinatown-red with blue tinsel, Christmas lights, retro paintings and funky curtains adding a 1960s decorative touch.
The DrawThe club sits on a nightlife fault line where two cultures coincide--it gives off an authentic Chinatown vibe without being unwelcoming to Westerners. Casual touches like a combination Ms. Pac Man-Galaga video game and baskets of Pringles keep the atmosphere chill.
HoursMon-Sat 4pm-2am
AtmosphereAfter WorkDance Club - DJHappy HourLoungeMartini Bar21 & OverNeighborhoodDance Club - Hip-Hop & R&BDance Club - Soul & FunkSinglesDance Club - HouseBars
PaymentMasterCardVisa
Recommended DrinkEZ5 (vodka, sweet and sour, Cointreau, Chambord)
ParkingMetered
Insider Tips
Know Before You GoDJs spin nightly from 6pm until close. Leave your dancing shoes at home, though: The space allotted for cutting a rug fits about two comfortably.
Save MoneyHappy hour is 5pm-8pm daily, with $1 off signature cocktails. Monday and Tuesday also feature $4 well drinks and cosmopolitans, and $5 martinis.
ParkingStreet spots open up as the workday ends. The Portmouth Garage (a half block away on Kearny) charges $2 per hour.
― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 01:56 (twenty-two years ago)
― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 01:57 (twenty-two years ago)
― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 01:58 (twenty-two years ago)
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 02:15 (twenty-two years ago)
Also-I did suggest the obligatory pre-FAP Amoeba visit to Gareth for mid-late afternoon if you're interested. I'm not working that day either.
― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 02:28 (twenty-two years ago)
Did you get the DJ /rupture thing btw? I know a few folks downloaded, but my laptop's doing weird stuff so soulseek's been down.
Amoeba sounds great in the afternoon sounds great (as I would probably have been there anyway.)
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 02:30 (twenty-two years ago)
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 02:38 (twenty-two years ago)
Amoeba it is then. I am off to see Air now. Bye.
― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 02:39 (twenty-two years ago)
― Casuistry (Chris P), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 03:00 (twenty-two years ago)
― kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 03:25 (twenty-two years ago)
― kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 03:28 (twenty-two years ago)
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 03:29 (twenty-two years ago)
― Casuistry (Chris P), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 03:30 (twenty-two years ago)
=0 no!
Update: Sean is going to try and make it too.
― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 16:45 (twenty-two years ago)
― kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 16:47 (twenty-two years ago)
― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 16:54 (twenty-two years ago)
― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 16:55 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 16:58 (twenty-two years ago)
― publiclibrary, Wednesday, 5 May 2004 21:30 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 21:32 (twenty-two years ago)
BART rules.
― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 21:33 (twenty-two years ago)
― kyle (akmonday), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 21:38 (twenty-two years ago)
― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 21:42 (twenty-two years ago)
― littlemelbourne, Wednesday, 5 May 2004 22:43 (twenty-two years ago)
― gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 22:44 (twenty-two years ago)
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 22:45 (twenty-two years ago)
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 22:46 (twenty-two years ago)
― broadway, Wednesday, 5 May 2004 22:46 (twenty-two years ago)
― Casuistry (Chris P), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 22:47 (twenty-two years ago)
― Casuistry (Chris P), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 22:48 (twenty-two years ago)
― gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 22:49 (twenty-two years ago)
― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 22:49 (twenty-two years ago)
― kyle (akmonday), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 22:54 (twenty-two years ago)
― kyle (akmonday), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 22:55 (twenty-two years ago)
― donut bitch (donut), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 23:00 (twenty-two years ago)
― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 23:44 (twenty-two years ago)
― Mary (Mary), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 23:46 (twenty-two years ago)
― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 23:49 (twenty-two years ago)
― donut bitch (donut), Thursday, 6 May 2004 00:17 (twenty-two years ago)
― kyle (akmonday), Thursday, 6 May 2004 00:48 (twenty-two years ago)
― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Thursday, 6 May 2004 01:29 (twenty-two years ago)
It looks like we will be meeting in front of Amoeba on Friday around 4:00 and then heading over to club thingy for about 6:00. Speak now if this will not work.
― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Thursday, 6 May 2004 01:31 (twenty-two years ago)
― donut bitch (donut), Thursday, 6 May 2004 01:33 (twenty-two years ago)
― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Thursday, 6 May 2004 01:37 (twenty-two years ago)
― donut bitch (donut), Thursday, 6 May 2004 01:41 (twenty-two years ago)
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 6 May 2004 01:51 (twenty-two years ago)
(I think the lack of hospitality in SF is probably related to the fact that most of SF lives in too small apartments which we pay too much for. So sad.)
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 6 May 2004 01:54 (twenty-two years ago)
again, I should have just shut up originally, and I'm sure this was just a weird set of circumstances for this particular weekend for the SFers as far as inability to host, that's all I'll say for now and leave it at that.
― donut bitch (donut), Thursday, 6 May 2004 02:15 (twenty-two years ago)
so i am now in the hostel that adam suggested, on mason. and...its fantastic! the complete opposite. put it this way, they were playing the smiths as i walked in, and the other person in my room has a package entitled "interdisciplinary approaches to..." something or other. i think its going to be a little bit more recuperative here:)
― much happier now, Thursday, 6 May 2004 02:39 (twenty-two years ago)
as long as people come out and meet me, and possible re-enact some deadpan highfives, that is all i hope for...
― and, furthermore, Thursday, 6 May 2004 02:43 (twenty-two years ago)
― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Thursday, 6 May 2004 02:47 (twenty-two years ago)
― donut bitch (donut), Thursday, 6 May 2004 02:49 (twenty-two years ago)
― kyle (akmonday), Thursday, 6 May 2004 02:57 (twenty-two years ago)
― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Thursday, 6 May 2004 03:01 (twenty-two years ago)
― gareth (gareth), Thursday, 6 May 2004 03:38 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 6 May 2004 03:44 (twenty-two years ago)
― donut bitch (donut), Thursday, 6 May 2004 03:46 (twenty-two years ago)
― svend (svend), Thursday, 6 May 2004 04:15 (twenty-two years ago)
― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Thursday, 6 May 2004 04:23 (twenty-two years ago)
If you're Gareth in San Francisco...
― Casuistry (Chris P), Thursday, 6 May 2004 04:41 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 6 May 2004 04:43 (twenty-two years ago)
― Casuistry (Chris P), Thursday, 6 May 2004 04:50 (twenty-two years ago)
― svend (svend), Thursday, 6 May 2004 04:52 (twenty-two years ago)
You were pleased by that? The other hotel must have been really bad.
― Mary (Mary), Thursday, 6 May 2004 04:59 (twenty-two years ago)
― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Thursday, 6 May 2004 16:46 (twenty-two years ago)
― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Thursday, 6 May 2004 16:50 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 6 May 2004 16:51 (twenty-two years ago)
― gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 6 May 2004 16:51 (twenty-two years ago)
― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Thursday, 6 May 2004 16:52 (twenty-two years ago)
― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Thursday, 6 May 2004 16:53 (twenty-two years ago)
― gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 6 May 2004 16:56 (twenty-two years ago)
― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Thursday, 6 May 2004 16:58 (twenty-two years ago)
Nah he was at work. My girlfriend didn't mention nothing neither.
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 6 May 2004 17:09 (twenty-two years ago)
― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Thursday, 6 May 2004 17:23 (twenty-two years ago)
― JaXoN (JasonD), Thursday, 6 May 2004 17:36 (twenty-two years ago)
― gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 6 May 2004 18:42 (twenty-two years ago)
― JaXoN (JasonD), Thursday, 6 May 2004 19:06 (twenty-two years ago)
― gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 6 May 2004 19:22 (twenty-two years ago)
then i walked up to the coit tower, and went up in the scaryu rickety elevator, which didnt feel safe at all. good views from the top but my fear of heights precluded me staying up there too long (i realise its openness not height per se, yet this was sort of enclosed. i still had to come down asap though. the weird thing is, for most cities, a high tower brings out the bvest in the city giving high panoramic views, but here in sf you already have that everywhere and the views from the tower seemed to flatten out some of the hills a little
from there i walked back down thropugh chinatown again, past the silly green tortoiose place (and i suddenlyt rememberred, i had made a mental note to avoid this place because of their bus tours and associated promotions,l but then i forgot)
walked down as far as montgomery bart station and got a bart out to Berkeley. then walked around berkely for a while, stopping in ameoba for a bit, only looked for francois de roubiax stuff though, which they didnt have. then after stopping in the post office, i realised i had totally forgotten where the bart station was, so i was kind of lost for a short while. the strip around telegraph avenue was a little overwhelming, it kind of reminded me of a hybrid of cambridge, ma and santa monica, is this fair comment, or am i wide of mark?
then i got the bart to Oakland, and wondered around 9th and 10ht street. it was very different from sf, more so than even tghe book suggested it would be. it felt, almost, nebraskan, perhaps thats not right, im not sure what i am looking to descrivbbe really
― gareth (gareth), Friday, 7 May 2004 01:07 (twenty-two years ago)
― gareth (gareth), Friday, 7 May 2004 01:10 (twenty-two years ago)
now, im back in the hostel, hbuit i am about to go out again and look for some gfood, theen might go bqack up towards hjapantrown and wander around there depending, food ancd a beer is first priority though
― gareth (gareth), Friday, 7 May 2004 01:11 (twenty-two years ago)
the strip around telegraph avenue was a little overwhelming, it kind of reminded me of a hybrid of cambridge, ma and santa monica, is this fair comment, or am i wide of mark?
Heh, having been to both, I think you're onto something there! But it has its own special something, if you will.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 7 May 2004 01:12 (twenty-two years ago)
― gareth (gareth), Friday, 7 May 2004 01:13 (twenty-two years ago)
The Tenderloin is really upsetting to me and I've lived here all my life (although perhaps that is why it is depressing.)
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 7 May 2004 01:13 (twenty-two years ago)
i also saw, i think, my first dead body, in the middle of the road, in, of all p[laces, Berkelyt, (it was near the bart)
wtf?
― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Friday, 7 May 2004 01:15 (twenty-two years ago)
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 7 May 2004 01:17 (twenty-two years ago)
― gareth (gareth), Friday, 7 May 2004 01:17 (twenty-two years ago)
― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Friday, 7 May 2004 01:19 (twenty-two years ago)
― donut bitch (donut), Friday, 7 May 2004 01:23 (twenty-two years ago)
a guyt outside tghe hostekl tried to palnm some drugs off on me, and wouldnt take no for answer. i justwaljked straight into the hostel though, and he was unabkle tto follow
sf is much sketchier than i imahgined. or at least its sketchier in downtown and piopular areas more than i imagined. perhaps mmore than i have seen anywhere else
― gareth (gareth), Friday, 7 May 2004 01:25 (twenty-two years ago)
― donut bitch (donut), Friday, 7 May 2004 01:26 (twenty-two years ago)
Possibly. I remember when I spent a night at the Transbay terminal on one of my first visits, it seemed like an insane asylum. Without wanting to sound like a callous bastard, you do kind of get used to some of the "sketchiness" and it is not in fact as intimidating as it might seem.
― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Friday, 7 May 2004 01:30 (twenty-two years ago)
Even though it's kinda cliche at this point, I still very much enjoy the Haight St. area. And there are parts of the Mission, near Valencia, that are really great too. And despite its very touristy nature, the Golden Gate bridge views are gorgeous. If you have time and can cross the bridge and walk around the edge of Sausalito and look back at SF that way, you'll likely be amazed.
Surely the SF vets will deservedly correct me, but sketchiness tends to be stronger in the Chinatown/Market St. area and in Hunter's point. Then again, this may have all revolved around since my last visit.
― donut bitch (donut), Friday, 7 May 2004 01:31 (twenty-two years ago)
(x-post with the db)
― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Friday, 7 May 2004 01:32 (twenty-two years ago)
OTM. or take the ferry from the Embarcadero!
― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Friday, 7 May 2004 01:33 (twenty-two years ago)
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 7 May 2004 01:35 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 7 May 2004 01:37 (twenty-two years ago)
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 7 May 2004 01:40 (twenty-two years ago)
― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Friday, 7 May 2004 01:43 (twenty-two years ago)
― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Friday, 7 May 2004 01:45 (twenty-two years ago)
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 7 May 2004 01:47 (twenty-two years ago)
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 7 May 2004 01:50 (twenty-two years ago)
― Mary (Mary), Friday, 7 May 2004 02:58 (twenty-two years ago)
imn not squeamish about the body in the slightest, i find it more strange iu have never seen one before. i am more squamish about the fact that i just drank a hersheys milkshake followed by a coke followed by a sam adams and nowfeel completely sick.
i was in north beach too today, i must have missed this out.
i will check out this sausalito i think
tomorrow i think i will, initially at least, concentrate efforts the other side of market st
the street people thing isnt because i am worried or scared, they arent very scary really, you just stride past. its more that its been allowed to happen where so many people can fall off the edge of the system and just be left like moving detritus. perhaps it is the concentration that is bringing it home here though,
― gareth (gareth), Friday, 7 May 2004 02:58 (twenty-two years ago)
i meant to say its like the nebraska of pictyre books. well, actually i meant to say like the oklahoma city that was on tv after the timothy mcveigh carbomb.
― gareth (gareth), Friday, 7 May 2004 02:59 (twenty-two years ago)
― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Friday, 7 May 2004 03:04 (twenty-two years ago)
Earlier that weekend, I stayed at a friend's place near MLK and 39th. st. (at an address 666, haha), and I was told later that's pretty much Oaktown gang central. Yet, I am still alive.
― donut bitch (donut), Friday, 7 May 2004 03:08 (twenty-two years ago)
AKM can verify, but that is definitely not a great part of town, especially late at night. We actually live right off of MLK in Berkeley, and I often have to drive through that part and swerve and brake to avoid hitting all of the people (crackheads or just morons?) who just wander straight out into the middle of the road. I now work on 40th several blocks west of there (more Emeryville than Oakland).
― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Friday, 7 May 2004 03:13 (twenty-two years ago)
― Mary (Mary), Friday, 7 May 2004 03:43 (twenty-two years ago)
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 7 May 2004 03:47 (twenty-two years ago)
― Mary (Mary), Friday, 7 May 2004 03:51 (twenty-two years ago)
― donut bitch (donut), Friday, 7 May 2004 03:59 (twenty-two years ago)
― donut bitch (donut), Friday, 7 May 2004 04:02 (twenty-two years ago)
― donut bitch (donut), Friday, 7 May 2004 04:04 (twenty-two years ago)
you do if you dig around behind my apartment. Oh shit I shouldn't have said anything!
― kyle (akmonday), Friday, 7 May 2004 13:17 (twenty-two years ago)
― kyle (akmonday), Friday, 7 May 2004 13:18 (twenty-two years ago)
― gareth (gareth), Friday, 7 May 2004 14:22 (twenty-two years ago)
― metfigga (metfigga), Friday, 7 May 2004 16:23 (twenty-two years ago)
There's a guy outside my window who's been threatening to jump all night!
― gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 7 May 2004 16:26 (twenty-two years ago)
― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Friday, 7 May 2004 16:29 (twenty-two years ago)
― metfigga (metfigga), Friday, 7 May 2004 18:05 (twenty-two years ago)
― gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 7 May 2004 18:07 (twenty-two years ago)
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 7 May 2004 18:14 (twenty-two years ago)
oh no! (or is it "oh yes!"?)
― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Friday, 7 May 2004 18:17 (twenty-two years ago)
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 7 May 2004 18:39 (twenty-two years ago)
― metfigga (metfigga), Friday, 7 May 2004 18:40 (twenty-two years ago)
― kyle (akmonday), Friday, 7 May 2004 18:54 (twenty-two years ago)
there are also some contractor positions open in the customer service department and i believe there's an opening for a contract hr person. i'd have to verify that though.
― metfigga (metfigga), Friday, 7 May 2004 19:04 (twenty-two years ago)
― donut bitch (donut), Friday, 7 May 2004 19:08 (twenty-two years ago)
― kyle (akmonday), Friday, 7 May 2004 19:57 (twenty-two years ago)
― kyle (akmonday), Friday, 7 May 2004 19:58 (twenty-two years ago)
(Thanks for the heads up btw, metfigga.)
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 7 May 2004 19:59 (twenty-two years ago)
the reason i ask is because i'm currently enrolled in a business planning program in sf and it's probably the best career move i've ever made. the course is offered through an organization called the renaissance center - www.rencenter.org.
― metfigga (metfigga), Friday, 7 May 2004 20:27 (twenty-two years ago)
― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Friday, 7 May 2004 20:35 (twenty-two years ago)
― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Saturday, 8 May 2004 06:05 (twenty-two years ago)
would all these businesses involve the making of chainmail, home brewed meade, or corsetry?
― kyle (akmonday), Saturday, 8 May 2004 06:24 (twenty-two years ago)
― kyle (akmonday), Saturday, 8 May 2004 16:47 (twenty-two years ago)
― teeny (teeny), Saturday, 8 May 2004 19:05 (twenty-two years ago)
― gareth (gareth), Sunday, 9 May 2004 00:24 (twenty-two years ago)
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Sunday, 9 May 2004 06:24 (twenty-two years ago)
Still, I had a lot of fun on Friday night. I hope you enjoyed your stay, and whatever it is you ended up doing on Saturday. Hopefully we'll meet again if I can make it back to London sometime later this year. Though of course, the Pint Pot is totally out of the question.
― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Sunday, 9 May 2004 15:37 (twenty-two years ago)
i would like to be out there right now, instead i am in dull overcast London with a godawful virus, and Alan Shearer got 0 points today after i bought him and made him captain of my FPL team
― stevem (blueski), Sunday, 9 May 2004 15:39 (twenty-two years ago)
*hint hint*
― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Sunday, 9 May 2004 15:43 (twenty-two years ago)
friday was a good night, i enjoyed meeting everyone for sure, and extra thanks to kyle for the cd. purchases at amoeba pre-fap were kept to a stringent minimum, though i did make a return visit on saturday and bought a couple extra things.
across friday and saturday either side of the fap i was mainly in the mission and castro districts, but also back in haight.
i called adam and dan around 830pm on the saturday, but neither were in, though it was actually not a bad thing, because i think i had begun to run out of steam by then, and was in bed for 9pm, with an early flight next day
― gareth (gareth), Monday, 10 May 2004 09:39 (twenty-two years ago)
― gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 10 May 2004 16:08 (twenty-two years ago)
― kyle (akmonday), Monday, 10 May 2004 16:46 (twenty-two years ago)
― gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 10 May 2004 17:01 (twenty-two years ago)
― kyle (akmonday), Monday, 10 May 2004 17:25 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 10 May 2004 17:25 (twenty-two years ago)
― kyle (akmonday), Monday, 10 May 2004 17:29 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 10 May 2004 17:32 (twenty-two years ago)
― kyle (akmonday), Monday, 10 May 2004 18:16 (twenty-two years ago)
― gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 10 May 2004 18:23 (twenty-two years ago)
― kyle (akmonday), Monday, 10 May 2004 18:24 (twenty-two years ago)
― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Monday, 10 May 2004 18:52 (twenty-two years ago)
― Casuistry (Chris P), Monday, 10 May 2004 21:59 (twenty-two years ago)
― donut bitch (donut), Monday, 10 May 2004 22:08 (twenty-two years ago)
― roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Monday, 10 May 2004 22:17 (twenty-two years ago)
On a side note, Crate & Barrel Outlet really came up with the goods on Sunday. We now have a C&B rug too!
― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Monday, 10 May 2004 22:28 (twenty-two years ago)
― kyle (akmonday), Monday, 10 May 2004 22:45 (twenty-two years ago)
― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Monday, 10 May 2004 22:46 (twenty-two years ago)
― gareth (gareth), Saturday, 15 May 2004 11:07 (twenty-two years ago)
http://pod-135.dolphin-server.co.uk/~gareth/photos/5102.jpg
http://pod-135.dolphin-server.co.uk/~gareth/photos/5104.jpg
http://pod-135.dolphin-server.co.uk/~gareth/photos/5116.jpg
― gareth (gareth), Saturday, 15 May 2004 11:11 (twenty-two years ago)
http://pod-135.dolphin-server.co.uk/~gareth/photos/5118.jpg
http://pod-135.dolphin-server.co.uk/~gareth/photos/5121.jpg
― gareth (gareth), Saturday, 15 May 2004 11:13 (twenty-two years ago)
― Casuistry (Chris P), Saturday, 15 May 2004 14:12 (twenty-two years ago)
― kyle (akmonday), Saturday, 15 May 2004 14:39 (twenty-two years ago)
― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Saturday, 15 May 2004 15:31 (twenty-two years ago)
― Casuistry (Chris P), Saturday, 15 May 2004 15:46 (twenty-two years ago)
― Casuistry (Chris P), Saturday, 15 May 2004 15:47 (twenty-two years ago)
I have a thumbring.
― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Saturday, 15 May 2004 16:34 (twenty-two years ago)
― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Saturday, 15 May 2004 16:36 (twenty-two years ago)
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Saturday, 15 May 2004 16:46 (twenty-two years ago)
― gareth (gareth), Saturday, 15 May 2004 16:47 (twenty-two years ago)
Of course, gygax is in the bathroom at the moment that picture was taken. He'll be pissed off at me for pointing that out.
― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Saturday, 15 May 2004 16:48 (twenty-two years ago)
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Saturday, 15 May 2004 16:51 (twenty-two years ago)
http://www.utball.com/photos/stockton/stockton01.jpg
― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Saturday, 15 May 2004 16:55 (twenty-two years ago)
― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Saturday, 15 May 2004 16:57 (twenty-two years ago)
I'm there TWICE a week, @d@m! The guy in the Reggae section hates me though (actually I think he hates everyone.)
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Saturday, 15 May 2004 18:21 (twenty-two years ago)
i know many amoeba employees by name. i hate me
― JaXoN (JasonD), Saturday, 15 May 2004 19:12 (twenty-two years ago)
the end
My conversations with the guy in Reggae section:
Me: (shuffling through various artists/sections.)Guy: (working nearby moving shelves, etc.) Do you need anything in particular?Me: No, I'm just browsing.Guy: Grunt.Me: (continue browsing.)Guy: (clearly about to burst a blood vessel from the SHEER frustration of having to work around SOMEONE actually SHOPPING near him) Well I'm working on this section right now, okay. So this is essentially closed.Me: (decides getting into an argument with this guy is not worth it) Okay, don't let me interrupt you with my shopping. Bye.
I actually only know two current Amoeba employees by name and one I used to work with at another record shop.
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Sunday, 16 May 2004 22:55 (twenty-two years ago)
― donut bitch (donut), Sunday, 16 May 2004 23:13 (twenty-two years ago)
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Sunday, 16 May 2004 23:15 (twenty-two years ago)
― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Monday, 17 May 2004 00:27 (twenty-two years ago)
― Mandee, Thursday, 20 May 2004 20:15 (twenty-two years ago)
YES- the weather will be amazing and everybody will be happy.
Where could I stay for cheap?
NOT the Green Tortoise. How about the Grant Plaza in Chinatown?
How do I get around?
MUNI. Or best of all, walking.
― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Thursday, 20 May 2004 20:19 (twenty-two years ago)
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, how long have you lived here again?
― gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 20 May 2004 20:22 (twenty-two years ago)
― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Thursday, 20 May 2004 20:23 (twenty-two years ago)
Are you looking forward to your birthday, gygax?
― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Thursday, 20 May 2004 20:24 (twenty-two years ago)
― kyle (akmonday), Thursday, 20 May 2004 20:27 (twenty-two years ago)
― Michael White (Hereward), Thursday, 20 May 2004 20:28 (twenty-two years ago)
― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Thursday, 20 May 2004 20:29 (twenty-two years ago)
― mandee, Thursday, 20 May 2004 20:29 (twenty-two years ago)
the transportation around SF isn't that bad. It's not NYC but it's not LA either.
― kyle (akmonday), Thursday, 20 May 2004 20:30 (twenty-two years ago)
― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Thursday, 20 May 2004 20:34 (twenty-two years ago)
The heat wave was late June last year. My father was in town and we went to a baseball game.
My birthday was in February, @d@ml, on the 30th.
― gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 20 May 2004 20:34 (twenty-two years ago)
― kyle (akmonday), Thursday, 20 May 2004 20:35 (twenty-two years ago)
-- gygax! (gygax0...), April 14th, 2004.
― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Thursday, 20 May 2004 20:36 (twenty-two years ago)
― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Thursday, 20 May 2004 20:37 (twenty-two years ago)
― mandee, Thursday, 20 May 2004 20:41 (twenty-two years ago)
― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Thursday, 20 May 2004 20:42 (twenty-two years ago)
― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Thursday, 20 May 2004 20:43 (twenty-two years ago)
― kyle (akmonday), Thursday, 20 May 2004 20:45 (twenty-two years ago)
― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Thursday, 20 May 2004 20:47 (twenty-two years ago)
― kyle (akmonday), Thursday, 20 May 2004 20:48 (twenty-two years ago)
― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Thursday, 20 May 2004 20:48 (twenty-two years ago)
There is definitely shopping to be had in SF as Retail is one of the largest industry sectors in town.
― gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 20 May 2004 20:49 (twenty-two years ago)
― mandee, Thursday, 20 May 2004 20:49 (twenty-two years ago)
You even told me the date. I bet you regret that now.
― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Thursday, 20 May 2004 20:50 (twenty-two years ago)
― gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 20 May 2004 20:51 (twenty-two years ago)
― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Thursday, 20 May 2004 20:52 (twenty-two years ago)
― kyle (akmonday), Thursday, 20 May 2004 20:52 (twenty-two years ago)
― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Thursday, 20 May 2004 20:54 (twenty-two years ago)
Denver has tonzzzz of crazy homeless people.
― mandee, Thursday, 20 May 2004 20:56 (twenty-two years ago)
― mandee, Thursday, 20 May 2004 20:58 (twenty-two years ago)
― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Thursday, 20 May 2004 20:58 (twenty-two years ago)
― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Thursday, 20 May 2004 20:59 (twenty-two years ago)
― kyle (akmonday), Thursday, 20 May 2004 20:59 (twenty-two years ago)
― kyle (akmonday), Thursday, 20 May 2004 21:00 (twenty-two years ago)
― mandee, Thursday, 20 May 2004 21:01 (twenty-two years ago)
― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Thursday, 20 May 2004 21:02 (twenty-two years ago)
― kyle (akmonday), Thursday, 20 May 2004 21:04 (twenty-two years ago)
Greeley is up north near Ft. Collins. It's home to millions of cows.
― mandee, Thursday, 20 May 2004 21:04 (twenty-two years ago)
― kyle (akmonday), Thursday, 20 May 2004 21:05 (twenty-two years ago)
wow, I can't believe I just typed that.
― mandee, Thursday, 20 May 2004 21:06 (twenty-two years ago)
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 20 May 2004 21:16 (twenty-two years ago)
― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Thursday, 20 May 2004 21:17 (twenty-two years ago)
― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Thursday, 20 May 2004 21:18 (twenty-two years ago)
― kyle (akmonday), Thursday, 20 May 2004 21:20 (twenty-two years ago)
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 20 May 2004 21:22 (twenty-two years ago)
― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Thursday, 20 May 2004 21:25 (twenty-two years ago)
Speaking of SF in June - have you guys heard about the free Blackalicious, Antibalas, Broun Felinis concert and is anybody else planning on going? It's part of a Fela Kuti tribute...http://www.ybae.org/concerts/june_afrobeat.htm
― metfigga (metfigga), Thursday, 20 May 2004 21:37 (twenty-two years ago)
― kyle (akmonday), Thursday, 20 May 2004 21:38 (twenty-two years ago)
― kyle (akmonday), Thursday, 20 May 2004 21:40 (twenty-two years ago)
I'm planning on not going actually, but I would like to see The Black President exhibit before it leaves.
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 20 May 2004 21:40 (twenty-two years ago)
― metfigga (metfigga), Thursday, 20 May 2004 21:44 (twenty-two years ago)
― kyle (akmonday), Thursday, 20 May 2004 21:45 (twenty-two years ago)
― metfigga (metfigga), Thursday, 20 May 2004 21:50 (twenty-two years ago)
― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Thursday, 20 May 2004 21:53 (twenty-two years ago)
― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Thursday, 20 May 2004 21:54 (twenty-two years ago)
― kyle (akmonday), Thursday, 20 May 2004 21:55 (twenty-two years ago)
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 20 May 2004 21:55 (twenty-two years ago)
― metfigga (metfigga), Thursday, 20 May 2004 21:56 (twenty-two years ago)
― metfigga (metfigga), Thursday, 20 May 2004 21:58 (twenty-two years ago)
― kyle (akmonday), Thursday, 20 May 2004 22:01 (twenty-two years ago)
― metfigga (metfigga), Thursday, 20 May 2004 22:04 (twenty-two years ago)
― gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 16 September 2004 22:02 (twenty-one years ago)
― adam. (nordicskilla), Thursday, 16 September 2004 22:20 (twenty-one years ago)
― david acid (gareth), Friday, 17 September 2004 00:17 (twenty-one years ago)
tomorrow i return to sf, for fun and drinkz
― david acid (gareth), Friday, 17 September 2004 00:18 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 17 September 2004 00:18 (twenty-one years ago)
― gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 17 September 2004 00:23 (twenty-one years ago)
― acrid 1274 (gareth), Friday, 17 September 2004 00:34 (twenty-one years ago)
― adam. (nordicskilla), Friday, 17 September 2004 01:01 (twenty-one years ago)
― the neurotic rassafrassa of harrumph (blueski), Friday, 17 September 2004 10:20 (twenty-one years ago)
― ambrose (ambrose), Friday, 17 September 2004 10:21 (twenty-one years ago)
― the neurotic rassafrassa of harrumph (blueski), Friday, 17 September 2004 10:23 (twenty-one years ago)
― adam. (nordicskilla), Friday, 17 September 2004 12:24 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ed (dali), Friday, 17 September 2004 13:16 (twenty-one years ago)
― adam. (nordicskilla), Friday, 17 September 2004 13:34 (twenty-one years ago)
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Friday, 17 September 2004 13:36 (twenty-one years ago)
― gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 17 September 2004 13:47 (twenty-one years ago)
― kyle (akmonday), Friday, 17 September 2004 16:32 (twenty-one years ago)
― adam. (nordicskilla), Friday, 17 September 2004 16:38 (twenty-one years ago)
― You've Got to Pick Up Every Stitch (tracerhand), Friday, 17 September 2004 17:23 (twenty-one years ago)
― gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 17 September 2004 17:45 (twenty-one years ago)
― adam. (nordicskilla), Friday, 17 September 2004 18:23 (twenty-one years ago)
― JaXoN (JasonD), Friday, 17 September 2004 18:25 (twenty-one years ago)
― adam. (nordicskilla), Friday, 17 September 2004 18:35 (twenty-one years ago)
― Michael White (Hereward), Friday, 17 September 2004 18:55 (twenty-one years ago)
― acrid 1274/1132 (gareth), Friday, 17 September 2004 21:01 (twenty-one years ago)
― acrid 1274/1132 (gareth), Friday, 17 September 2004 21:02 (twenty-one years ago)
― today your driver is: acrid 1274 (gareth), Friday, 17 September 2004 21:05 (twenty-one years ago)
― adam. (nordicskilla), Friday, 17 September 2004 21:07 (twenty-one years ago)
― JaXoN (JasonD), Friday, 17 September 2004 21:11 (twenty-one years ago)
― charlton stepper (gareth), Friday, 17 September 2004 21:13 (twenty-one years ago)
― osmondthorpe/kippax (gareth), Friday, 17 September 2004 21:26 (twenty-one years ago)
― that kippax lad (gareth), Friday, 17 September 2004 21:27 (twenty-one years ago)
― adam. (nordicskilla), Friday, 17 September 2004 21:28 (twenty-one years ago)
― mikef (mfleming), Friday, 17 September 2004 21:33 (twenty-one years ago)
then he said he wasnt going to go to sleep till he got $10k, because of the danger he'd put himself in, wrists slit, hit with a laser etc, and that he needs that money now
then he said he is this close to taking over, like a conglomerate, but thats no good for plane tickets to milan.
then there was some other stuff about computers and satellites and hillsboro again
i really need a drink now
― david acid (gareth), Friday, 17 September 2004 21:46 (twenty-one years ago)
Is this the wrong time to say that my friend who saw them in NYC the other night said they were really boring and Schnauss was way better?
― kyle (akmonday), Friday, 17 September 2004 21:47 (twenty-one years ago)
i'll be in these environs. i am only going into my room in short bursts, till he says enuogh scary things that i come down here and put them on the computer for a while
― david acid (gareth), Friday, 17 September 2004 21:49 (twenty-one years ago)
― charlton stepper (gareth), Friday, 17 September 2004 21:49 (twenty-one years ago)
― lauren (laurenp), Friday, 17 September 2004 21:50 (twenty-one years ago)
― Michael White (Hereward), Friday, 17 September 2004 21:51 (twenty-one years ago)
― kyle (akmonday), Friday, 17 September 2004 21:52 (twenty-one years ago)
― JaXoN (JasonD), Friday, 17 September 2004 22:13 (twenty-one years ago)
― kyle (akmonday), Friday, 17 September 2004 22:15 (twenty-one years ago)
believe me, i really dont mind what i do tonite
― charlton stepper (gareth), Friday, 17 September 2004 22:24 (twenty-one years ago)
― Michael White (Hereward), Friday, 17 September 2004 22:33 (twenty-one years ago)
― kyle (akmonday), Friday, 17 September 2004 22:36 (twenty-one years ago)
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 17 September 2004 22:40 (twenty-one years ago)
"Zeitgeist is fine, there are some good dancy bars nearMezzanine: Arrow, Club Six, etc.
Across market there's the tenderloin stuff like thebrown jug and what have you."
― adam. (nordicskilla), Friday, 17 September 2004 22:48 (twenty-one years ago)
― adam. (nordicskilla), Friday, 17 September 2004 22:49 (twenty-one years ago)
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 17 September 2004 22:49 (twenty-one years ago)
Now...where is Arrow?
― adam. (nordicskilla), Friday, 17 September 2004 22:50 (twenty-one years ago)
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 17 September 2004 22:51 (twenty-one years ago)
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 17 September 2004 22:52 (twenty-one years ago)
Hip dive bar - it’s almost an oxymoron. However, one must first define “hip.” To review the Arrow Bar, I will have to describe the subculture that frequents it so you‘ll understand what, for some, constitutes “hip.” I don’t expect most people to understand what I mean by “sceney scenesters” or “twenty-something pseudo-intellectual artists.” You could get the idea, but both judgments are somewhat vague, and not everyone has been exposed to this “scene” of people.
The aforementioned subculture consists of twenty-something to twenty-something-minded-thirty-somethings that really like independent, or “indie,” stuff. They like music that doesn’t get played on the radio, they pride themselves on knowing obscure bands and films, and their reading list contains fiction writers that “understand” their subculture (e.g. Kerouac, Bukowski, Eggers).
You’ve probably seen one of these kids on the street; maybe you're one of them. The girls wear jeans with high heels and retro fashions. The guys wear impossibly tight pants and t-shirts, possibly with blazers. Both sexes have precision (choppy and unnaturally-dyed) haircuts; both sexes aspire to be Mick Jagger (circa 1965, of course).
At the Arrow Bar, in a part of town I can only describe as “really frickin scary,” these sceney scenesters are all dressed up with no one to go home with - yet. They rub up against each other, order cosmopolitans because Sex and the City left them with the impression that it’s okay to be promiscuous, talk shit loudly in order to win the “most pretentious = cool” award, drink Pabst Blue Ribbon under guise of being ironic, and snort lines in the bathroom like there’s no tomorrow - when they will return to their job at Amoeba or a coffee shop or someplace similar.
“Now Layne," one might ask, “why are you so bitter regarding this subculture? It’s just a bunch of kids having a good time.”
The answer is simple: I find the whole display boring and shallow, and I feel the same way about people who go to Ruby Skye or any other meat markets. It’s just not fun, and it's an unhealthy lifestyle.
But, just in case you’re completely intrigued and this crowd sounds fun, go ahead and be "hip" at the Arrow Bar. There is no reason to go to this bar other than to be immersed in its clique. See an independent band play there (despite the fact that there is no room for a band to play, shows do happen). Talk about your band, name-drop, dance on top of the bar, get sloppy drunk and hook up with a total stranger, see if I care.
Layne Karafantis August 2004
― adam. (nordicskilla), Friday, 17 September 2004 22:53 (twenty-one years ago)
7 o clock it is.
― adam. (nordicskilla), Friday, 17 September 2004 22:55 (twenty-one years ago)
― Michael White (Hereward), Friday, 17 September 2004 22:59 (twenty-one years ago)
― kippax lad (gareth), Friday, 17 September 2004 23:38 (twenty-one years ago)
― adam. (nordicskilla), Friday, 17 September 2004 23:39 (twenty-one years ago)
i have much to tell. and, perhaps, much to ask
― lipxax ked (gareth), Friday, 17 September 2004 23:41 (twenty-one years ago)
― the great doxology of middleton rd (gareth), Friday, 17 September 2004 23:43 (twenty-one years ago)
― gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 17 September 2004 23:52 (twenty-one years ago)
see some of you at the show later. i'll put some jeans on.
― kyle (akmonday), Saturday, 18 September 2004 01:46 (twenty-one years ago)
― gygax! (gygax!), Saturday, 18 September 2004 09:36 (twenty-one years ago)
― adam. (nordicskilla), Saturday, 18 September 2004 14:21 (twenty-one years ago)
How long are you in town? I'm off to grandma's house near Yosemite for the weekend and hence unavailable for the weekend. Hectic whirlwind of a social calendar, ask my valet (poor thing spends whole days in tears), but I'd gladly consume adult beverages with you next week.
― Michael White (Hereward), Saturday, 18 September 2004 15:03 (twenty-one years ago)
Please tell me you did write this before the cab driver almost killed us and that little incident at JaXon's place happened....
M83 were okay for anyone wondering, but they played over prerecorded synth tracks and I don't really know why since it did nothing but detract. Surely there is some french person who could have played that stuff live. I guess that's what seeing Depeche Mode was like though.
― kyle (akmonday), Saturday, 18 September 2004 16:47 (twenty-one years ago)
i actually wrote this during all of the above was occuring, yay for cell phone internet!
M83 were much different setup than I expected (where are the Rolands?) and as Kyle says a lot of the great synth textures were DAT'd on top of their 2 guitar, bass and live drum/drum machine combo. At times they were just flat-out rocking in a Mogwai style. I yelled out "So much... Rock!?!" at one point in a pretty funny (to me) accent. I larfed. There little improvised composition at the end came out pretty limp and fell flat. The DJ's were playing some pretty icy minimal house after the show.
Also, I got my Led Zep fix for the next year or so. Big Star rules too btw.
― gygax! (gygax!), Saturday, 18 September 2004 17:16 (twenty-one years ago)
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Saturday, 18 September 2004 17:22 (twenty-one years ago)
― gygax! (gygax!), Saturday, 18 September 2004 17:26 (twenty-one years ago)
― kyle (akmonday), Saturday, 18 September 2004 17:30 (twenty-one years ago)
― kyle (akmonday), Saturday, 18 September 2004 17:31 (twenty-one years ago)
Hey!
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 18 September 2004 17:35 (twenty-one years ago)
― adam. (nordicskilla), Saturday, 18 September 2004 17:38 (twenty-one years ago)
― adam. (nordicskilla), Saturday, 18 September 2004 18:24 (twenty-one years ago)
― kyle (akmonday), Saturday, 18 September 2004 18:27 (twenty-one years ago)
― the great doxology of heckmondwike town (gareth), Saturday, 18 September 2004 18:53 (twenty-one years ago)
I just don't "get" you.
― adam. (nordicskilla), Saturday, 18 September 2004 18:56 (twenty-one years ago)
― adam. (nordicskilla), Saturday, 18 September 2004 19:02 (twenty-one years ago)
― adam. (nordicskilla), Saturday, 18 September 2004 19:10 (twenty-one years ago)
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Saturday, 18 September 2004 19:27 (twenty-one years ago)
― adam. (nordicskilla), Saturday, 18 September 2004 19:42 (twenty-one years ago)
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Saturday, 18 September 2004 20:17 (twenty-one years ago)
― kyle (akmonday), Saturday, 18 September 2004 22:09 (twenty-one years ago)
― adam. (nordicskilla), Saturday, 18 September 2004 22:42 (twenty-one years ago)
― kyle (akmonday), Saturday, 18 September 2004 22:43 (twenty-one years ago)
― adam. (nordicskilla), Saturday, 18 September 2004 22:50 (twenty-one years ago)
FAIRValencia Street Fair when: Sun 9.19 (10am-6pm) where: Valencia St btw 21st and 22nd Sts (415.240.6384) price: FREE
Now that those chilly summer months are behind us and the real San Francisco summer is in full swing, it's time to step out, catch a few fleeting rays, and get that SoCal tan that we've been so enviously eyeing. Fortunately, the Valencia Street Fair provides just the right mix of people, food, art, music, and culture for a frolic in the Mission. On top of sampling the area's numerous merchants' wares, check out musical highlights the Monolith, Ride the Blinds, DJ Soulsalaam, and the Avengers' Penelope Houston. And anti-gentrificationists take heart: the festival is sponsored by community-minded, grassroots-oriented organizations like Rainbow Grocery and Centro Latino de San Francisco. (KT)
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Saturday, 18 September 2004 23:36 (twenty-one years ago)
― tokyo rosemary (rosemary), Sunday, 19 September 2004 01:05 (twenty-one years ago)
― kyle (akmonday), Sunday, 19 September 2004 14:15 (twenty-one years ago)
― kyle (akmonday), Sunday, 19 September 2004 14:52 (twenty-one years ago)
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Sunday, 19 September 2004 16:36 (twenty-one years ago)
Trying to phone some of you now...
― adam. (nordicskilla), Sunday, 19 September 2004 17:03 (twenty-one years ago)
I deleted gygax's number by accident last night, fuck.
― adam. (nordicskilla), Sunday, 19 September 2004 17:12 (twenty-one years ago)
― adam. (nordicskilla), Sunday, 19 September 2004 17:19 (twenty-one years ago)
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Sunday, 19 September 2004 17:32 (twenty-one years ago)
― adam. (nordicskilla), Sunday, 19 September 2004 17:42 (twenty-one years ago)
― the great doxology of heckmondwike town (gareth), Sunday, 19 September 2004 18:12 (twenty-one years ago)
― the great doxology of heckmondwike town (gareth), Monday, 20 September 2004 07:05 (twenty-one years ago)
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 15:10 (twenty-one years ago)
― Pashmina (Pashmina), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 15:14 (twenty-one years ago)
GGGGGGGGGGGGG u said on the note u were going to be in leeds before 21st sept. WERE R U
also, i sent you a text with the subject: RE: where should i live in LEEDS
to S: I fluctuaute between the two largest cities in Yorkshire. And its fucking, fucking, fucking tiring.
― ambrose (ambrose), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 15:50 (twenty-one years ago)
― adam. (nordicskilla), Friday, 24 September 2004 19:04 (twenty-one years ago)