Cannes '04 -- What are you excited for?

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Shrek 2?

Official selection.

― Eric H. (Eric H.), Friday, 14 May 2004 00:49 (twenty-two years ago)

2046!!!!!!

― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 14 May 2004 00:51 (twenty-two years ago)

Thin year...

― TheNewJMod (JMod), Friday, 14 May 2004 00:52 (twenty-two years ago)

the day after tomorrow!

― cozen (Cozen), Friday, 14 May 2004 00:53 (twenty-two years ago)

2046!!!!!!

― deanomgwtf!!!p%3Fmsgid%3D4581997 (deangulberry), Friday, 14 May 2004 00:55 (twenty-two years ago)

i have this horrible feeling it's going to somehow end up sucking though

― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 14 May 2004 00:57 (twenty-two years ago)

No matter what it is, it will definitely be worth at least the $10 that I will spend on it.

― deanomgwtf!!!p%3Fmsgid%3D4581997 (deangulberry), Friday, 14 May 2004 01:08 (twenty-two years ago)

2046!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

― Gear! (Gear!), Friday, 14 May 2004 01:16 (twenty-two years ago)

2046 is certainly entering the festival in the same manner that In the Mood for Love did. I bet he's still filming scenes as we speak.

― Eric H. (Eric H.), Friday, 14 May 2004 01:45 (twenty-two years ago)

Smart money has the Palme going to the Wong. Sly sidebetters are setting their sights on Oldboy and Clean.

― Eric H. (Eric H.), Friday, 14 May 2004 01:47 (twenty-two years ago)

Moolade, Ousmane Sembene!!!!
Breaking News, Johnnie To
Wong Kar-Wai of course. Agènes Jaoui.
Clean because Béatrice Dalle & Maggie Cheung are in it, but I hated Demonlover, so.. somewhat lowered expectations.

I wish I was in Paris so I could catch the early screenings after the festival.

― daria g (daria g), Friday, 14 May 2004 06:32 (twenty-two years ago)

An awful lot of already domestically-released American movies running out of competition.

I bet there's a lot of fawning over Fahrenheit 911. Bet it's terrible, too.

― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Friday, 14 May 2004 06:35 (twenty-two years ago)

2046!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

― cinniblount (James Blount), Friday, 14 May 2004 06:41 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah, I'm annoyed about Fahrenheit, because I have a feeling it'll play right into the ideas of those ready to think the worst of the US. (And I don't mean the government, I mean.. selling the Ugly American stereotype..) Plus I'm not a big fan of staged events in documentaries, and I have a feeling that.. he'll make enough outrageous accusations, the ones that are accurate will be discredited too.

― daria g (daria g), Friday, 14 May 2004 06:57 (twenty-two years ago)

why oh why is 'the ladykillers' on? it's been out in the states since march!!!
i believe jean luc godard has a film there. and assayas. but it isn't hot enough really, no von trier factor.

― ENRique (Enrique), Friday, 14 May 2004 11:18 (twenty-two years ago)

2046!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

― jed_ (jed), Friday, 14 May 2004 11:49 (twenty-two years ago)

what's the big deal about '2046'?

― ENRQ (Enrique), Friday, 14 May 2004 11:52 (twenty-two years ago)

2046. Oldboy. House Of Flying Daggers.

― Mil, Friday, 14 May 2004 13:04 (twenty-two years ago)

I think as a fitting closing ceremony to this year's festival they should fly everyone to london and throw Tom Hanks' Body from York Way into a specially crafted railway wagon.

― Ed (dali), Friday, 14 May 2004 13:11 (twenty-two years ago)

woman is the future of man
tropical malady
2046

tons of other shit

― amateur!st (amateurist), Friday, 14 May 2004 16:52 (twenty-two years ago)

2046.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 14 May 2004 17:08 (twenty-two years ago)

Has anybody heard about the new Wong Kar-Wai movie? I think it's called 2046.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 14 May 2004 17:24 (twenty-two years ago)

sounds tailer-made for Cannes from the "synopsis" on that site. not sure what Quentin'll make of it tho'

― zebedee (zebedee), Friday, 14 May 2004 17:29 (twenty-two years ago)

"woman is the future of man" sounds like a calypso song!

― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 14 May 2004 17:31 (twenty-two years ago)

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― El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Friday, 14 May 2004 17:35 (twenty-two years ago)

Also: Ghost in the Shell 2 and Old Boy. But I'd be lying if it wasn't all about 2046.

― El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Friday, 14 May 2004 17:37 (twenty-two years ago)

Sorry to change the subject, but: Has there been a more anticipated directorial "follow-up" in recent years than Two-Thousand and Forty-Six?

― Eric H. (Eric H.), Friday, 14 May 2004 17:38 (twenty-two years ago)

And, yes, I really want to see the Kusturica one too.

― Eric H. (Eric H.), Friday, 14 May 2004 17:39 (twenty-two years ago)

I've been hearing a lot about something called 2046.

― Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Friday, 14 May 2004 17:57 (twenty-two years ago)

what?

― deanomgwtf!!!p%3Fmsgid%3D4581997 (deangulberry), Friday, 14 May 2004 17:58 (twenty-two years ago)

I said, 2046.

― Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Friday, 14 May 2004 18:00 (twenty-two years ago)

what's it bout?

― deanomgwtf!!!p%3Fmsgid%3D4581997 (deangulberry), Friday, 14 May 2004 18:03 (twenty-two years ago)

About 2 more than 2044.

― Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Friday, 14 May 2004 18:05 (twenty-two years ago)

perhaps Palme-ing the America Sucks film will it become an institution like the Oscar unjustified by the performance but given for a body of work they previously failed to recognize?

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 14 May 2004 18:06 (twenty-two years ago)

""woman is the future of man" sounds like a calypso song! "

so does "tropical malady"

the kusturica movie looks embarrassing

― amateur!st (amateurist), Friday, 14 May 2004 20:15 (twenty-two years ago)

i know they always are BUT it's shocking that the Coens' Ladykillers is in competition.

― jed_ (jed), Friday, 14 May 2004 21:02 (twenty-two years ago)

Whoa! 2046 is really finally being realeased? Is Kimura Takuya still in it, or did he get cut?

― Mary (Mary), Friday, 14 May 2004 23:50 (twenty-two years ago)

I just checked: he's still there, hot. And a new Kore-eda!

― Mary (Mary), Friday, 14 May 2004 23:55 (twenty-two years ago)

yeah, did you see the last kore-eda? i never got a chance to see it, if it was distributed at all in the states. the one about the subway attacks, i mean.

― amateur!st (amateurist), Saturday, 15 May 2004 04:20 (twenty-two years ago)

c'mon, "life is a miracle"? i guess it's the whole "the robustness and crazeeness of life in the midst of warfare" thing again.

the preview and the cahiers review made it look/sound like "kusturica's greatest hits" only not as good.

― amateur!st (amateurist), Saturday, 15 May 2004 04:22 (twenty-two years ago)

btw hou hsiao-hsien's new film (his ozu tribute) was rejected altogether by the festival organizers.

kiarostami has two films being presented, neither of them in competition (he refuses to take part in any more competitions after having won the palme d'or in 97). one is "ten on ten," a sort of rumination on the process of making "ten"; another is "five," which i'm told is a kind of experimental landscape film. both are dv, neither have a narrative. apparently though after having renounced both film and narrative he changed his mind and his next feature will be in 35mm and will have a story/actors/etc. i've heard some reports that "five" is some kind of ozu tribute as well but the cahiers write up made no mention of that.

― amateur!st (amateurist), Saturday, 15 May 2004 04:25 (twenty-two years ago)

Rumor is that Ten on 10 was actually nothing more than a DVD supplement that somehow wound up screening. Its reception was appropriately underwhelming. I am looking forward to Five, though.

Hey now... I thought Tropical Malady looked a tad embarassing myself, but I didn't go raining on your parade.

― Eric H. (Eric H.), Saturday, 15 May 2004 04:40 (twenty-two years ago)

really? what do you know about it?

both that thai director whose name i will not try to spell, and hong sang-soo from korea, are graduates of the art institute of chicago!!

― amateur!st (amateurist), Saturday, 15 May 2004 05:14 (twenty-two years ago)

Just what the Cannes website put down and that I can't remember the last time I liked a gay movie (well actually I do, it was Happy Together). I am excited for the Hong Sang-Soo, though.

― Eric H. (Eric H.), Saturday, 15 May 2004 05:21 (twenty-two years ago)

"tropical malady" is a "gay movie"??

― amateur!st (amateurist), Saturday, 15 May 2004 05:26 (twenty-two years ago)

btw hou hsiao-hsien's new film (his ozu tribute) was rejected altogether by the festival organizers. - holy shit, is this true? wtf?

― cinniblount (James Blount), Saturday, 15 May 2004 05:28 (twenty-two years ago)

yup, it's not even showing out of competition.

― amateur!st (amateurist), Saturday, 15 May 2004 05:33 (twenty-two years ago)

why?????

― cinniblount (James Blount), Saturday, 15 May 2004 05:59 (twenty-two years ago)

It's not a gay movie? Boy that description is misleading.

― Eric H. (Eric H.), Saturday, 15 May 2004 12:10 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't know what precisely was wrong with Hou's film, the only info I found said he presented it to festival people once in Tokyo and it didn't go over well, and he reedited it specifically for the festival, but was still turned down. Jeez, how bad could it be? It's called "Le Temps, le Café, la Lumière," maybe that hints at how bad it could be..

― daria g (daria g), Saturday, 15 May 2004 12:22 (twenty-two years ago)

Gilles Jacob isn't afraid to burn bridges this year in atonement for Ebert's wrath over Brown Bunny, I guess.

― Eric H. (Eric H.), Saturday, 15 May 2004 12:24 (twenty-two years ago)

Sukdev Sandhu in the UK Telegraph reviewed Kiarostami's 10 on Ten, and it does sound... wank, and I like AK. Banging on about the mollycoddling brainwashing yadda that is Hollywood. Oddly he shares the attitude of ye old style cultural conservatives towards Hollywood.

Sorry to change the subject, but: Has there been a more anticipated directorial "follow-up" in recent years than Two-Thousand and Forty-Six?

Easily, 'Gangs of New York', 'Star Wars Pt 1'. WTF. I'm sure it'' be a good film, but the basic assumption that *anything* Wong, Kiarostami, or Hou does automatically deserves a festival screening and critical love is wack. I've enjoyed films by all, but 'Happy Together', 'Taste of Cherry' and 'Flowers of Shanghai' (all 1997-8, after their breakthrough films) were really underwhelming.

― ENrique (Enrique), Saturday, 15 May 2004 13:17 (twenty-two years ago)

WTF indeed. All three of those films are great. WTF, just because you 'discovered' them before Film Comment?!

― Eric H. (Eric H.), Saturday, 15 May 2004 13:47 (twenty-two years ago)

(OK, obviously I was making assumptions that "losing my edge" syndrome was evident in your post, but I can't imagine why else you'd use the phrase "after their breakthrough films." Oh, pardon them for attracting attention etc etc.)

― Eric H. (Eric H.), Saturday, 15 May 2004 13:50 (twenty-two years ago)

"flowers of shanghai" was underwhelming???!!??!!??!??!??!??!?!

― amateur!st (amateurist), Saturday, 15 May 2004 16:41 (twenty-two years ago)

No, god, I didn't know what Film Comment *was* in 1998, and only caught 'FOS' last year. I dun't think it got a proper release in the UK (in fact, I don't think any of Hou's films have). It's possibly coincidental that I prefer (repeat: with benefit of hindsight, I wasn't ahead of the curve, being 9 years old when Kiarostami got picked up by Locarno, 13 when 'Chungking' got picked up) the pre-breakthrough films. But I found 'FOS' especially incredibly exasperating. Anyway, I like all three directors, it's just that I don't think anyone automatically deserves a boost on the basis of past work (cf Resnais).

― NERQ, Monday, 17 May 2004 08:54 (twenty-two years ago)

i don't think anyone was really suggesting that

but it makes sense to pay attention to artists who have made interesting work in the past, no?

― amateur!st (amateurist), Monday, 17 May 2004 09:26 (twenty-two years ago)

oh definitely. i mean, i travelled to london on a friday night just to see resnais' 'je t'aime je t'aime', which is silly (ie for the money i could have got a dvd of one of the thousands of films i haven't seen) and weird (FRIDAY NITE) but there we are.

i think the '2046' meme was pissing me off, and the AK 'piece' sounds snarky. hou is probably my fave out of that lot, for 'time to live...' alone.

― NEERQ, Monday, 17 May 2004 10:38 (twenty-two years ago)

So I've heard of this film called 2046.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 17 May 2004 14:07 (twenty-two years ago)

that guy in 'fallen angels' with the two gats? I have his number, fux0rs.

― Enrique (Enrique), Monday, 17 May 2004 14:12 (twenty-two years ago)

OK, I didn't realize one of the two gay sort-of lovers in the Tropical movie (SPOILER) possibly turns into a cow halfway through. This might be interesting.

― Eric H. (Eric H.), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 17:04 (twenty-two years ago)

Do they start eating pudding and wearing cowboy hats too?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 17:07 (twenty-two years ago)

No, that would be Moore and Bush in Farenheit 911

― Eric H. (Eric H.), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 19:54 (twenty-two years ago)

OK, I didn't realize one of the two gay sort-of lovers in the Tropical movie (SPOILER) possibly turns into a cow halfway through. This might be interesting.

-- Eric H. (ephende...) (webmail), May 18th, 2004 11:04 AM. (Eric H.) (later) (link)
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understatement of the year, really.

i love the "possibly": "well, he certainly LOOKS like a cow, but..."

― amateur!st (amateurist), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 03:16 (twenty-two years ago)

from ebert:

Of the films set to play on the last three days of the festival, one seems endangered. Press screenings for the eagerly awaited "2046," by the major Chinese director Wong Kar-Wei, were canceled because the film's editing was not completed in time. The festival still hopes to fly a print from the labs in Paris to make the Thursday night official screening. Since "2046" is considered a plausible candidate for the Palme d'Or, festival history may hinge on its arrival here.

― amateur!st (amateurist), Friday, 21 May 2004 03:47 (twenty-two years ago)

Jesus! Is Wong independent of studio control or something? Thalberg would never have let this happen!!!

― Enrique (Enrique), Friday, 21 May 2004 08:37 (twenty-two years ago)

he's probably buying up hong kong's entire supply of no-doze right now...

― amateur!st (amateurist), Friday, 21 May 2004 08:54 (twenty-two years ago)

I hate it when good people do stupid things:

It seems the only enemy that Michael Moore has at this year's Cannes film is fellow firebrand Jean-Luc Godard. Unimpressed by Moore's credentials as cinema's leading leftwing activist, the veteran new-waver yesterday belittled the director as merely "halfway intelligent" while asserting that President Bush is "less stupid than Moore thinks". Speaking at a press conference for his own movie, Our Music, Godard argued that films such as Fahrenheit 9/11 "help Bush more than harm him ... in a very vicious way that [directors like Moore] are not conscious of". When pressed, however, Godard admitted that he had yet to see Fahrenheit 9/11.

Guardian 20 May

God, I wish JLG *had* seen it and *specified* how the film might 'help' Bush. It's so fucking irritatingly vague, it's counter-productive: this is 'Petit Soldat' Godard in action.

― Enrique (Enrique), Friday, 21 May 2004 09:00 (twenty-two years ago)

haha be thankful you don't read french

i read two godard interviews--in cahiers and les inrocks--and he's really on a roll with his bullshit.

he spent about five minutes insulting andre techine for no apparent reason and then argued that the usa invaded iraq because--he's been using this line at least since the late '90s--we don't have our own culture/history and wanted to own the oldest civilization on earth ("sumeria"). he also expressed that he finds credible that dude who wrote the book arguing that the plane didn't crash into the pentagon....

i'll still see his new movie though.

― amateur!st (amateurist), Friday, 21 May 2004 09:05 (twenty-two years ago)

he also expressed that he finds credible that dude who wrote the book arguing that the plane didn't crash into the pentagon....

that's not excatly what he said. The conversation was about pictures and the fact they're not a source of information anymore. For instance we have no pictures that prove Thierry Messan wrong, we know he's wrong but "the proof rely on words".

― -Bruno, Friday, 21 May 2004 10:18 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh God! At the moment I'm in an anti-Godard mood because of an excellent article I read by Raymond Durgnat, and because I ended up really disliking Colin MacCabe's sycophantic biog. As an explanation for the invasion it's beyond stupid. So here I find myself yay-ing Moore. wtf lol.

I don't trust a word JLG says about politics, basically; however, all of his films have fascinating insights within them about the connection between politics and aesthetics. That's how I'm triangulating today.

― Enrique (Enrique), Friday, 21 May 2004 10:19 (twenty-two years ago)

i thought he was lending some credence to messan's idea that we have no evidence of the plane crashing into the pentagon, which is true...apart from all the photos of the plane crashed into the pentagon. my impression was that the inrocks interviewer was almost taken aback that godard was even "skeptical" about such things.

i find godard's persona really tiresome, almost loathsome. although i think he his perhaps just a little bit nuts. his films are further evidence. "passion," my favorite of his films, really is the work of a madman.

― amateur!st (amateurist), Friday, 21 May 2004 10:26 (twenty-two years ago)

well, 2046 must have shown after all

― jed_ (jed), Friday, 21 May 2004 10:37 (twenty-two years ago)

What? I thought it was cancelled and replaced with something else!

― antexit (antexit), Friday, 21 May 2004 11:38 (twenty-two years ago)

very confusing - it was only yesterday the cancellation was announced and yet here is an online review of it?

― jed_ (jed), Friday, 21 May 2004 11:44 (twenty-two years ago)

some review too--wtf it's like a sketchy synopsis with some vague words of praise, i want more

― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 21 May 2004 18:46 (twenty-two years ago)

I wonder if he just made it all up and didn't hear about the cancellation.

― El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Friday, 21 May 2004 18:52 (twenty-two years ago)

that's what i was thinking!! it sure reads that way

― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 21 May 2004 18:54 (twenty-two years ago)

It does, since it's so vague! It's like he decided to skip it and just wrote the "review" based on some synopsis info.

― El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Friday, 21 May 2004 18:56 (twenty-two years ago)

But reviewers never do that! Now excuse me while I review some bad local OC punk show with my mind.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 21 May 2004 19:04 (twenty-two years ago)

yeah i could have written it for him, in fact, since i always know exactly what he is going to say about every movie he reviews.

― jed_ (jed), Friday, 21 May 2004 19:05 (twenty-two years ago)

it was shown yesterday. i saw excerpts on the news today.

― -Bruno, Friday, 21 May 2004 19:10 (twenty-two years ago)

"Like other work from this director, "2046" teases the boundary of incomprehensibility. It is a series of moods, nuances and gorgeous moments — seductions, couplings, tearful partings — with the usual connective tissue left out, or implied in title cards and voice-overs. After the two screenings early in the evening, quite a few viewers rushed back to see it again later Thursday night, to experience its intoxicating beauty one more time, and also to figure out what on earth it was about."

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/05/21/movies/21CANN.html

― ryan (ryan), Friday, 21 May 2004 21:17 (twenty-two years ago)

Godard almost has a point (re: Moore), though. If Fahrenheit 9/11 had been another Bowling for Columbine-esque freak show of gags and deceptive edits and so on, it would have helped Bush more than hurt him. By itself making Bush-bin Laden claims is going to sound ridiculous to the average American, doing it with stunts would have been worse. But, if Ebert is right, Moore was smart enough to do the thing straight. Done badly, Moore's film could have skirted the same asinine territory you're criticizing Godard for (9/11 conspiracy theories).

He's right about Bush, too. Playing dumb is a great way of avoiding criticism innit? If you're an egghead intellectual, etc. and mispronounce words or don't know key facts, you're screwed. But when Bush does it he's just another good ol' boy.

― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Friday, 21 May 2004 23:38 (twenty-two years ago)

but he hasn't avoided criticism

― amateur!st (amateurist), Friday, 21 May 2004 23:51 (twenty-two years ago)

He has avoided a great deal of it. The Daily Show, the Nation, liberal blogs and Michael Moore reach a fairly small audience.

You don't see the Tim Russerts of the world going on the attack over his anti-intellectual mindset, where they were none too slow to jump on the bandwagon against Gore and against Dean and so on.

― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Friday, 21 May 2004 23:59 (twenty-two years ago)

Or, more important, there's no national consensus that Bush is a complete tool, despite all the evidence. Those of us with that view are a minority.

― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Saturday, 22 May 2004 00:10 (twenty-two years ago)

So, praise for 2046204620462046 seems lukewarm at this point, very few calling it a disaster, but hardly anyone swooning like they did for Mood for Love. Anyone willing to back off betting on it for de Palme? If so, what's getting sucked to the top? I would've said Clean, but its reviews are even more tepid.

― Eric H. (Eric H.), Saturday, 22 May 2004 01:20 (twenty-two years ago)

and the palme d'or goes to... Fahrenheit 9/11

― -Bruno, Saturday, 22 May 2004 17:16 (twenty-two years ago)

woo-hoo, and yet...I liked it better when I thought Beatrice Dalle was dead, somehow

― Morley Timmons (Donna Brown), Saturday, 22 May 2004 17:45 (twenty-two years ago)

It was emotional.

― CRW (CRW), Saturday, 22 May 2004 18:12 (twenty-two years ago)

awards announced - i thought it was tomorrow

Palme d'Or to "Fahrenheit 9/11" by Micahel Moore
The Palme d'Or of this 57th edition of the Festival de Cannes was presented by Charlize Theron to Fahrenheit 9/11 by Michael Moore.

Grand Prix to "Old Boy" by Park Chan-Wook
The Grand Prix was presented by Kevin Kline and Ashley Judd to Old Boy by Park Chan-Wook.

Best Actress Award to Maggie Cheung for her role in "Clean"
The Best Actress Award goes to Maggie Cheung for her role in Clean by Olivier Assayas

Best Actor Award to Yuuya Yagira for his role in "Nobody Knows"
The Best Actor Award goes to the 14-year old Yuuya Yagira for his role in Nobody Knows by Hirokazu Kore-eda.

Best Director Award goes to Tony Gatlif for "Exils"
The Best Director Award goes to Tony Gatlif for Exils

Best Screenplay Award goes to "Comme une Image" by Agnès Jaoui and Jean-Pierre Bacri
The Best Screenplay Award goes to Comme une Image by Agnès Jaoui and Jean-Pierre Bacri.

The Jury Prize to Irma P. Hall and "Tropical Malady"
The Jury Prize goes to actress Irma P. Hall for her role in The Ladykillers by the Coen brothers and to Tropical Malady from the Thai director Apichatpong Weerasethakul.

The Camera d'Or goes to "Or" by Keren Yedaya
Jury Président Tim Roth bestowed the Camera d'Or to the first feature film, Or , by Israeli director Keren Yedaya.

Camera d'Or Special Mention to "Lu Cheung (Passages)" by Yang Chao and "Bitter Dream" by Mohsen Amiryoussefi
Camera d'Or Special Mention went to two films: Lu Cheung (Passages) by Chinese director Chao Yang and Bitter Dream" by Iranian director Mohsen Amiryoussefi.

Palme d'Or to Short Film "Trafic" by Catalin Mitulescu
At the hands of French actress Jeanne Balibar, the Palme d'Or to a Short Film went to Trafic by Rumanian director Catalin Mitulescu.

Jury Prize to Short Film "Flatlife" by Jonas Geirnaert
Jury Prize to a Short Film goes to Flatlife by Belgian director Jonas Geirnaert

― jed_ (jed), Saturday, 22 May 2004 19:17 (twenty-two years ago)

wong kar-wai got served!

― s1ocki (slutsky), Saturday, 22 May 2004 19:21 (twenty-two years ago)

roger ebert and the other commentator on IFC implied that it was too hard to understand.

― ryan (ryan), Saturday, 22 May 2004 20:33 (twenty-two years ago)

So... Tarantino is the head juror, and Maggie Cheung's award pointedly only for Clean (though admittedly her role in 2046 is roughly 17 frames long)?

Conclusion: the new Wong sucks all kinds of ass.

― Eric H. (Eric H.), Saturday, 22 May 2004 22:47 (twenty-two years ago)

... unless of course my theory that Weinstein and Tarantino secretly made a statement against parent company Disney is really true... or that Asian-cinephile Tarantino used his position as a taste definer to introduce three new Asian auteurs to the world at large, instead of coronating the one everyone already knew about.

(and, yes, I know I'm overestimating the power a jury head actually has)

― Eric H. (Eric H.), Saturday, 22 May 2004 22:50 (twenty-two years ago)

Moore's speech was better than the Oscars, but still had some weird spots - "I'm going to spend the rest of the year making sure that all of those who've died in Iraq didn't die in vain" (paraphrased) is not particularly well thought out. Not dying in vain = defeating Bush? Yikes.

― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Sunday, 23 May 2004 00:23 (twenty-two years ago)

they gave each prize to a different film...that's very diplomatic, and a good way of expressing that there were many good films in competition. but it doesn't make for a very exciting article. no sweeps.... i guess the biggest news is the denial of any prizes to "2046." the film will still do well as an art film everywhere, i suspect.

yeah i thought moore's speech was kind of weird but understandable under the circumstances...i mean the surprise of winning and all.

― amateur!st (amateurist), Sunday, 23 May 2004 00:34 (twenty-two years ago)

" to introduce three new Asian auteurs to the world at large"

that's a bit condescending . all of hong sang-soo's features have already been distributed in france, japan, etc. kore-eda's "after life" was an art house success in the states already.... Weerasethakul's "Mysterious Object at Noon" is on DVD in the states....

park-chang wook is the only example for which this idea holds true--he is a relative unknown outside of korea. and his film wasn't universally well received--not at all--by critics. many thought it was an very exploitative film, in fact.

― amateur!st (amateurist), Sunday, 23 May 2004 00:37 (twenty-two years ago)

oh wait, hong didn't win anything.

which three directors are you talking about then?

― amateur!st (amateurist), Sunday, 23 May 2004 00:38 (twenty-two years ago)

i mean i liked elephant (and my feelings about moore run towards being a bad filmmaker and a dishonest muckracker--he aint no ida turnbell), but are they now giving the palm d'or to the most anti american film they can muster ?

― anthony, Sunday, 23 May 2004 00:49 (twenty-two years ago)

how is moore's film "anti-american"? it's anti-bush! moore is as american as they come.

"elephant" is a more complicated case.

remember that tarantino was the head of the jury this year....

― amateur!st (amateurist), Sunday, 23 May 2004 00:50 (twenty-two years ago)

My opinion is about the same as yours, Anthony, but everything I've seen indicates that Fahrenheit is much better (and more honest) than his previous films.

― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Sunday, 23 May 2004 00:58 (twenty-two years ago)

I have to register a complaint against "Shrek". I don't understand why adult audiences (like Cannes) don't see something really weird and twisted and wrong in a big lipped donkey (ass) being voiced in african american vernacular by Eddie Murphy. "I tell you what's wrong big green massa! Don't hurt the donkey!".

― aimurchie, Sunday, 23 May 2004 01:52 (twenty-two years ago)

So...this means that Moore/Weinstein will almost certainly get a summer distro deal, right?

― Girolamo Savonarola, Sunday, 23 May 2004 02:11 (twenty-two years ago)

Big lipped loud donkey = black person is NOT what kids need to have as an example.

― aimurchie, Sunday, 23 May 2004 02:46 (twenty-two years ago)

i'm just going to start a thread about it...but Shrek is a good example !

― aimurchie, Sunday, 23 May 2004 02:51 (twenty-two years ago)

No, I wasn't saying they were new... I was just trying to get inside Tarantino's head. Perhaps I'm not giving him enough credit to recognize that none of the directors are all that new, per se, but certainly not as well known as Wong in America. (There are untold numbers of people here who only know of Wong because they were introduced to him by QT.)

― Eric H. (Eric H.), Sunday, 23 May 2004 05:07 (twenty-two years ago)

Palme D'Or goes to Moore, Bush falls off his bike in shock! In dark times art must be used as a big, sharp pretzel.

― Momus (Momus), Sunday, 23 May 2004 06:52 (twenty-two years ago)

scatching (somewhat flip) profile of moore in the guardian: http://observer.guardian.co.uk/review/story/0,6903,1222496,00.html

― amateur!st (amateurist), Sunday, 23 May 2004 07:31 (twenty-two years ago)

(To Observer writer): I do not require him to be Mahatma Gandhi, merely to save the world.

― Momus (Momus), Sunday, 23 May 2004 08:52 (twenty-two years ago)

Guardian in 'flip' accusation
Pope: Woods allegations confirmed

― Enrique (Enrique), Sunday, 23 May 2004 10:58 (twenty-two years ago)

Jury Prize to a Short Film goes to Flatlife by Belgian director Jonas Geirnaert
It was his *unfinished* graduate project! The next jury will be the graduation jury (at his Ghent school) seeing (hopefully) the finished piece. It's about what can go wrong in an appartment. Go Belgium Go! :-)

― jesus nathalie (nathalie), Sunday, 23 May 2004 11:28 (twenty-two years ago)

if the panel rejects the film, he can just pull down his pants to reveal the cannes prize pasted to his ass.

― amateur!st (amateurist), Sunday, 23 May 2004 11:35 (twenty-two years ago)

oh that's nice.

― s1ocki (slutsky), Sunday, 23 May 2004 15:41 (twenty-two years ago)

that's how i got through my dissertation defense.

― amateur!st (amateurist), Sunday, 23 May 2004 19:20 (twenty-two years ago)

you won a prize at cannes for it?

― jed_ (jed), Sunday, 23 May 2004 19:22 (twenty-two years ago)

well, let's just say i was creative with a quill pen and a gold-embossing kit.

― amateur!st (amateurist), Sunday, 23 May 2004 19:31 (twenty-two years ago)

i seriously want to know what momus thinks of michael moore and his movies...

― amateur!st (amateurist), Monday, 24 May 2004 04:15 (twenty-two years ago)

I might actually go see Farenheit 9/11 now, but I'm not Momus.

― hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 24 May 2004 04:18 (twenty-two years ago)

oh, i'm totally going to see it...

― amateur!st (amateurist), Monday, 24 May 2004 04:21 (twenty-two years ago)

the kicker for me is supposedly Moore isn't in it as much as his other movies.

― hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 24 May 2004 04:22 (twenty-two years ago)

also Frank Rich had a good thing in the Times today about it.

― hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 24 May 2004 04:22 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm pretty sure Momus slammed Moore elsewhere... but, hey, politics is tactics. I've hated him on ILE but wtf this will do more to unseat Bush than 'Notre Music'.

― Enrique (Enrique), Monday, 24 May 2004 07:49 (twenty-two years ago)

Has a documentary ever won the Palme D'Or before? Is this award as much of a call-to-arms as it seems to be, coming from the usually art-for-art's-sake Cannes film community? Aesthetically, after all, Michael Moore's movies don't tend to rate too well.

― antexit (antexit), Monday, 24 May 2004 17:17 (twenty-two years ago)

Has a documentary ever won the Palme D'Or before?

Jacques Cousteau's and Louis Malle's The Silent World in 1956

― El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Monday, 24 May 2004 17:22 (twenty-two years ago)

2046 sounds like it is not going to be as good as I hoped, but at least it still has robots in it so I will end up seeing it anyway.

― El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Monday, 24 May 2004 17:24 (twenty-two years ago)

It sounds like he rushed the edit. Well, I say 'rushed', obviously that's slightly overstating it, but you know what I mean.

Anyone see the Newsnight Review mentioned upthread? Hilarity: Kermode said 'Nine Songs' was okay *because* it was unerotic (though he sounded a bit like he was protesting too much sbout how thoroughly unaroused he was). LOL: Tom Paulin bigging up the beautiful Maggie Cheung and the Coens. Paulin is a grebt man, I have decided.

― Enrique (Enrique), Monday, 24 May 2004 18:12 (twenty-two years ago)

"just ask the people sitting around me if i had a boner. they'll tell you 'no.'"

― amateur!st (amateurist), Monday, 24 May 2004 18:15 (twenty-two years ago)

three months pass...

OK, so I saw 'Oldboy' this weekend at the Prince Charles Fright Fest. How did I completely miss the reviews for this film? And - obviously - any other ilx threads on the subject (this is the only one I could find).

Without spoiling too much, the film's really fucking funny, sick and slightly-but-not-too clever and deserves to do a 'Donnie Darko' via word of mouth and come around in the cinemas again. Seriously, folks - if you get the chance, go and see this.

Some reviewer on imdb.com says Quentin Tarantino wants to bring it out again in the US, which probably means it's been lined-up for a remake starring Tom Cruise in the lead role. A remake would be worth supporting if only they got Philip Seymour Hoffman - natch - to do the 'chubby and socially inadequate best buddy' character.

On second thoughts, a remake would have to be so watered-down as to make it uncomparable to the real thing. So fuck off, Hollywood. But release the DVD already, cheers.

― James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 04:11 (twenty-one years ago)

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