― stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Sunday, 16 May 2004 22:15 (twenty-two years ago)
― stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Sunday, 16 May 2004 22:16 (twenty-two years ago)
― Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Sunday, 16 May 2004 22:18 (twenty-two years ago)
― Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Sunday, 16 May 2004 22:22 (twenty-two years ago)
― bnw (bnw), Sunday, 16 May 2004 22:23 (twenty-two years ago)
― stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Sunday, 16 May 2004 22:27 (twenty-two years ago)
THANK YOU THANK YOU YOU TOOK THE WORDS RIGHT OUT OF MY MOUTH
― stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Sunday, 16 May 2004 22:28 (twenty-two years ago)
― latebloomer (latebloomer), Sunday, 16 May 2004 22:30 (twenty-two years ago)
― stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Sunday, 16 May 2004 22:31 (twenty-two years ago)
― Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Sunday, 16 May 2004 22:33 (twenty-two years ago)
― Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Sunday, 16 May 2004 22:34 (twenty-two years ago)
― stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Sunday, 16 May 2004 22:34 (twenty-two years ago)
― the music mole (colin s barrow), Sunday, 16 May 2004 22:38 (twenty-two years ago)
― stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Sunday, 16 May 2004 22:38 (twenty-two years ago)
― stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Sunday, 16 May 2004 22:39 (twenty-two years ago)
OMG!!
― gabbneb (gabbneb), Sunday, 16 May 2004 22:39 (twenty-two years ago)
― the music mole (colin s barrow), Sunday, 16 May 2004 22:40 (twenty-two years ago)
― stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Sunday, 16 May 2004 22:40 (twenty-two years ago)
― Dan I. (Dan I.), Sunday, 16 May 2004 22:41 (twenty-two years ago)
Yes. Yes it is. The past couple of times I've been out to dinner with my parents, we've been plagued by screaming kids. My mother got up and had our table moved. She bitched out the manager of the restaurant so badly for not saying something to the parents of the unruly children. We got a free dessert as a result. Yay mom. But seriously, to the parents of these kids -- take your fucking screaming kids OUTSIDE the goddamn restaurant/store/theater/etc. until they calm the fuck down. And don't take them on planes. Period.
― Je4nne ƒury (Jeanne Fury), Sunday, 16 May 2004 22:48 (twenty-two years ago)
The only thing worse are the morons who bring children to adult/scary movies - I saw a couple bring in their four or five-year old kid to Kill Bill Vol.1. He started shrieking at the first sign of blood (as any normal five-year old would).
― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Sunday, 16 May 2004 22:51 (twenty-two years ago)
― stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Sunday, 16 May 2004 22:55 (twenty-two years ago)
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Sunday, 16 May 2004 22:56 (twenty-two years ago)
― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Sunday, 16 May 2004 22:56 (twenty-two years ago)
Yes. Leave them with a babysitter (or relative), or if you have access to a car and can squeeze a few extra sick days out of your workplace, drive to wherever you're going so you can stop and attend to your baby when you need to. If you can't afford to do this, well, you should have thought of this before having the kid.
― stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Sunday, 16 May 2004 23:02 (twenty-two years ago)
― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Sunday, 16 May 2004 23:07 (twenty-two years ago)
― stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Sunday, 16 May 2004 23:08 (twenty-two years ago)
― lauren (laurenp), Sunday, 16 May 2004 23:14 (twenty-two years ago)
― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Sunday, 16 May 2004 23:17 (twenty-two years ago)
― lauren (laurenp), Sunday, 16 May 2004 23:18 (twenty-two years ago)
― stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Sunday, 16 May 2004 23:21 (twenty-two years ago)
― Dan I. (Dan I.), Sunday, 16 May 2004 23:30 (twenty-two years ago)
― Dan I. (Dan I.), Sunday, 16 May 2004 23:32 (twenty-two years ago)
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Sunday, 16 May 2004 23:35 (twenty-two years ago)
― gabbneb (gabbneb), Sunday, 16 May 2004 23:38 (twenty-two years ago)
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Sunday, 16 May 2004 23:40 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 16 May 2004 23:45 (twenty-two years ago)
― the music mole (colin s barrow), Sunday, 16 May 2004 23:47 (twenty-two years ago)
― gabbneb (gabbneb), Sunday, 16 May 2004 23:48 (twenty-two years ago)
― teeny (teeny), Sunday, 16 May 2004 23:52 (twenty-two years ago)
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Sunday, 16 May 2004 23:56 (twenty-two years ago)
― gabbneb (gabbneb), Monday, 17 May 2004 00:01 (twenty-two years ago)
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 17 May 2004 00:03 (twenty-two years ago)
And isn't having a baby in an overpopulated world just terribly rude and aggressive, in a stupid way? Why not make your own damn self more helpful and interesting?!?!?
― Ann Sterzinger (Ann Sterzinger), Monday, 17 May 2004 03:38 (twenty-two years ago)
― misshajim (strand), Monday, 17 May 2004 13:52 (twenty-two years ago)
― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Monday, 17 May 2004 13:53 (twenty-two years ago)
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 17 May 2004 13:54 (twenty-two years ago)
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― Charlotte in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 17 May 2004 13:55 (twenty-two years ago)
― lauren (laurenp), Monday, 17 May 2004 13:59 (twenty-two years ago)
― marianna, Monday, 17 May 2004 14:15 (twenty-two years ago)
Yes, why not?
― Ronan (Ronan), Monday, 17 May 2004 14:18 (twenty-two years ago)
― Nemo (JND), Monday, 17 May 2004 14:29 (twenty-two years ago)
― The Huckle-Buck (Horace Mann), Monday, 17 May 2004 14:30 (twenty-two years ago)
YAY!
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 17 May 2004 14:47 (twenty-two years ago)
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 16:59 (nineteen years ago)
A new shot in the eternal war is fired.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 24 November 2009 16:36 (sixteen years ago)
Explain to me the ethos behind "NO PACIFIERS" parenting.
― Fox Force Five Punchline (sexyDancer), Tuesday, 24 November 2009 16:39 (sixteen years ago)
i 100% agree with this, plus this paragraph
More and more, we're all victims of these many small muggings every day. Our perp doesn't wear a ski mask or carry a gun; he wears Dockers and shouts into his iPhone in the line behind us at Starbucks, streaming his dull life into our brains, never considering for a moment whether our attention belongs to him. These little acts of social thuggery are inconsequential in and of themselves, but they add up -- wearing away at our patience and good nature and making our daily lives feel like one big wrestling smackdown.
― jazzgasms (Mr. Que), Tuesday, 24 November 2009 16:41 (sixteen years ago)
go, amy alkon, go (fuck yourself)
― my fave thing to do on the computer is what im doing right now (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 24 November 2009 16:41 (sixteen years ago)
i.e. i 0% agree with this
self-entitled libertarian-minded elitist prissy bs
― my fave thing to do on the computer is what im doing right now (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 24 November 2009 16:45 (sixteen years ago)
what would your political party's stance on crying babies be?
― sarahel, Tuesday, 24 November 2009 16:46 (sixteen years ago)
they would be his party membership
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 24 November 2009 16:49 (sixteen years ago)
She's being a big pain about it, but I don't think she's wrong. But I think one problem w people's vehemence/obnoxiousness about kids in public is that you don't NOTICE people who are doing it right and/or get lucky and their kid happens to sleep on the flight. You only notice the offenders, so it's impossible not to have a skewed sense of how big the problem population is.
― WHY DON'T YOU JUST LICK THE BUS DIRECTLY (Laurel), Tuesday, 24 November 2009 16:49 (sixteen years ago)
Ugh, I despise babies, and I agree that the plane staff were right to chuck off the kid if it was screaming, but the way this article was written is hideous. Two people's entitlement issues battling it out for space.
― emil.y, Tuesday, 24 November 2009 16:51 (sixteen years ago)
amy alkon otmemil.y otm also
― Bob Saget's "Night Moves": C or D (WmC), Tuesday, 24 November 2009 16:51 (sixteen years ago)
well, my primary objection is to how it's written, which is disgustingly...but there's no excuse to throw someone off a plane unless they're wilfully and malevolently abusing or distracting others. just tell her to put her thumb in the baby's mouth or something
― my fave thing to do on the computer is what im doing right now (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 24 November 2009 16:54 (sixteen years ago)
as for the bit about 'social muggings'...oh jesus christ grow up
― my fave thing to do on the computer is what im doing right now (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 24 November 2009 16:55 (sixteen years ago)
yeah her tone is hyperbolic but i dig the message
― jazzgasms (Mr. Que), Tuesday, 24 November 2009 16:55 (sixteen years ago)
it makes me wonder if she's ever been mugged.
― sarahel, Tuesday, 24 November 2009 16:56 (sixteen years ago)
just tell her to put her thumb in the baby's mouth or something
don't ever breed plz
― Bob Saget's "Night Moves": C or D (WmC), Tuesday, 24 November 2009 16:56 (sixteen years ago)
The thing is - commercial airplanes are just horrible environments, period.
― sarahel, Tuesday, 24 November 2009 17:00 (sixteen years ago)
well yeah. also belated tip of the hat to mookie
― my fave thing to do on the computer is what im doing right now (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 24 November 2009 17:01 (sixteen years ago)
there's one in my apartment right now, and he wasn't here a couple months ago!!
― turkey turkey turkey let's all get basted (some dude), Tuesday, 24 November 2009 17:02 (sixteen years ago)
The author just seems to have batshit expectations about the behavior of small children.
― sarahel, Tuesday, 24 November 2009 17:03 (sixteen years ago)
love this thread title
― super sexy psycho fantasy world (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, 24 November 2009 17:04 (sixteen years ago)
i think i love almost all thread titles with unintentional typos in them
― sarahel, Tuesday, 24 November 2009 17:04 (sixteen years ago)
http://progressivestudents.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/beckcry1.jpg
― I have all the print out about Dimebag and his murder (Curt1s Stephens), Tuesday, 24 November 2009 17:05 (sixteen years ago)
violent rabies: are there suddenly lots more of them around
― jazzgasms (Mr. Que), Tuesday, 24 November 2009 17:05 (sixteen years ago)
there should be a script that changes 'baby' to 'babby' automatically
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 24 November 2009 17:23 (sixteen years ago)
babbiesrabbiesscabbieslabbia
― sarahel, Tuesday, 24 November 2009 17:25 (sixteen years ago)
suggest bban
― my fave thing to do on the computer is what im doing right now (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 24 November 2009 17:26 (sixteen years ago)
how is suggest bban formed?
― sarahel, Tuesday, 24 November 2009 17:27 (sixteen years ago)
suggest bban bbutton
― my fave thing to do on the computer is what im doing right now (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 24 November 2009 17:28 (sixteen years ago)
tbbh
― sarahel, Tuesday, 24 November 2009 17:29 (sixteen years ago)
Babies denying my right to live in a world without babies.
― ogmor, Tuesday, 24 November 2009 17:37 (sixteen years ago)
Hmm. Airlines reserve the right not to let obviously intoxicated people onto aircraft; I guess if a kid is screaming bloody murder in the waiting room, I don't think it's CRAZY and offensive to families if they approach the parents with some concerns about that. The apology and voucher situation is just customer service -- if you think ANY companies can afford to stand on their principles w/r/t customer satisfaction, think again.
― WHY DON'T YOU JUST LICK THE BUS DIRECTLY (Laurel), Tuesday, 24 November 2009 17:44 (sixteen years ago)
exactly^^^
― jazzgasms (Mr. Que), Tuesday, 24 November 2009 17:45 (sixteen years ago)
wait, is that to me?
― ogmor, Tuesday, 24 November 2009 18:03 (sixteen years ago)
Prime Meats in Carroll Gardens has entered the war with a no-stroller/no-high-chair policy -- they have this shit-eating sign on the door about how they "love kids" but just "don't have the space" or something.
― Bay-L.A. Bar Talk (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 24 November 2009 18:31 (sixteen years ago)
shit eating?
― jazzgasms (Mr. Que), Tuesday, 24 November 2009 18:32 (sixteen years ago)
as in a shit-eating grin
― Bay-L.A. Bar Talk (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 24 November 2009 18:32 (sixteen years ago)
prime meats otm
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 24 November 2009 18:39 (sixteen years ago)
I agree, but it will be interesting to see how it plays out in the neighborhood. It's a very stroller-moms-who-still-want-the-lifestyle kind of neighborhood.
― Bay-L.A. Bar Talk (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 24 November 2009 18:40 (sixteen years ago)
all of you were once screaming babiesbanning babies from airplanes means keeping grandparents from seeing their grandbabies. DEAL WITH IT, NONBREEDERS
― Maria :D, Tuesday, 24 November 2009 18:44 (sixteen years ago)
I've occasionally wished their were "baby" and "non-baby" flights, but the result of that would just be that the baby flights would be hellish. Maybe a baby "section" with sound barriers? Although again the baby section would become extra-hellish.
― Bay-L.A. Bar Talk (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 24 November 2009 18:48 (sixteen years ago)
There's a bakery/coffee shop in Chicago that a few years ago put a sign on the door that read, "Children of all ages have to behave and use their indoor voices." Of course, it launched a huge debate that made it into the New York Times.
― Nuyorican oatmeal (jaymc), Tuesday, 24 November 2009 18:49 (sixteen years ago)
xxp - I definitely am not fond of the sound of crying babies and screaming toddlers - one of my co-workers used to bring her kid to work and it was distracting and annoying sometimes - but seriously - babies are gonna cry, and their parents are going to take them on planes, because it is a very efficient mode of transportation. People are going to annoy each other in public. That's life.
― sarahel, Tuesday, 24 November 2009 18:55 (sixteen years ago)
Baby flights would have to be cheaper. Pay extra to fly without any children on board. Also, re consoling crying babies: some babies like to be consoled, some don't. Parents who appear to not console kids probably have lots of experience with what does and doesn't work with their particular kid. Sometimes a crying baby will stop sooner if the crying is "ignored", i.e. if the crying isn't rewarded with attention. Depends of course on the age of the kid, etc. Sometimes consoling a kid can just mean more and more and more crying.
― Maria :D, Tuesday, 24 November 2009 19:00 (sixteen years ago)
There are some really entitled parents in that article.
"I think that the mothers who allow their kids to run around and scream, that's wrong, but kids scream and there is nothing you can do about it. What are we supposed to do, not enjoy ourselves at a cafe?"
Um, yeah? When you shrug your shoulders and say there's nothing you can do about your screaming child and continue to enjoy yourself at a cafe, you give every other parent a bad name.
Flights are a different story because in some situations air travel is a necessity and it's not realistic to be able to leave the baby at home or expect them not to cry. My daughter has been very quiet and well behaved the three times she's been in a plane, but I think we've just gotten lucky.
― ô_o (Nicole), Tuesday, 24 November 2009 19:07 (sixteen years ago)
i was on a flight from Barcelona to Toronto and an infant wound up sitting a row ahead and across of me. naturally i assumed the worst; and wound up feeling bad for it, because it was the cutest most well behaved kid ever!
― The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Tuesday, 24 November 2009 22:11 (sixteen years ago)
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http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3280/4047134610_480b67b731.jpg
― The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Tuesday, 24 November 2009 22:12 (sixteen years ago)
ok i entered the thread with 'hell yeah no kids on plane' intent but thermo wins
― Louis Cll (darraghmac), Tuesday, 24 November 2009 22:18 (sixteen years ago)
well of course canadian babies are well-behaved
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 24 November 2009 22:18 (sixteen years ago)
i have this notion that babbies who cry on planes are often crying because their ears are hurting and they don't know why, so i mainly feel sad for them.
― estela, Tuesday, 24 November 2009 22:21 (sixteen years ago)
if only there were some way to communicate to them that their ears are sore because their parents took them on an airplane.
― Louis Cll (darraghmac), Tuesday, 24 November 2009 22:26 (sixteen years ago)
why don't flight attendants just hand out free earplugs to anyone who wants them? wouldn't cost much.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 24 November 2009 22:26 (sixteen years ago)
but you'd still know the little bastards were out there making noise....
― Louis Cll (darraghmac), Tuesday, 24 November 2009 22:27 (sixteen years ago)
you'd still smell them.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 24 November 2009 22:32 (sixteen years ago)
free noseplugs, eyepatches, valium?
― Louis Cll (darraghmac), Tuesday, 24 November 2009 22:32 (sixteen years ago)
thinking that far about it, free valium for babies is probably a better solution.
― Louis Cll (darraghmac), Tuesday, 24 November 2009 22:33 (sixteen years ago)
you want to give my free valium to a baby?
― sarahel, Tuesday, 24 November 2009 22:33 (sixteen years ago)
complain all you want lady, there won't be no headlines if we kick you off the plane.
― Louis Cll (darraghmac), Tuesday, 24 November 2009 22:36 (sixteen years ago)
that's why I haven't gotten on a plane in over nine years!
― sarahel, Tuesday, 24 November 2009 22:36 (sixteen years ago)
because of being kicked off the last one, because of babies, or because they stole your free valium?
― Louis Cll (darraghmac), Tuesday, 24 November 2009 22:40 (sixteen years ago)