Roland Garros 2004

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Aiiie! Ouah, ouah!

Is it really a whole earth year since Ms P and I baked our napes atop Court Chatrier as Mariano, Younes, Serena, Barbara, Andre and Xavier slid, scooped, flailed and nudged their way through eight sets of clay-court combat a zoom lens below us? Yes, it is. Really.

So, it's practically time for La Plume De Ma Tante Est Dans L'Abre Francaise Ouvrir Du Salle De Bains!

On the Messieurs side, Roger F was in devastating form in Hamburg recently (Lawrie McM has expressed interest), inflicting G Coria's first clay-court defeat since Verkerk wore him down in Paris 2003. But RF has a rotten Garros record and Kuerten lurks in round three. Grosjean and Nalbandian are also in his quarter.

As for the Dames, people are whispering, "Amelie." Certainly, she should reach the semis where (a possibly below-par) Henin or whichever of the Russians pops out of the other quarter will be waiting (Sharapova?). Who knows what to expect from Ser and Ven?

Martina N has entered the singles at the age of 47 and if she can get past Gisela Dulko, Conchita Martinez - who beat her in her last competitive GS singles match (the 1994 Wimbledon final) - will be waiting in r2. I bet Conchie hasn't slept since the draw was made.

I'll be cheering on Zsofia Gubasci in the final round of qualifying today. Zshe's zfrom zHungary.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Saturday, 22 May 2004 07:41 (twenty-two years ago)

Hi Mike. I'll keep an eye on what's happening here but for me clay court tennis occupies the same place on the totem pole as one-day cricket, so I won't be clogging the thread like with the Oz or 'Wimpleton' (rhymes with Simpleton?), as some NBC ignoramus called it back in 2001, causing a courtside Chris Evert Lloyd to almost utter an audible obscenity.

My bet is NBC audiences will get their highlights from (rhymes with Poland) (rhymes with Paris) every night.

Fred Nerk (Fred Nerk), Saturday, 22 May 2004 07:58 (twenty-two years ago)

I was waiting for this thread! One last exam on Tuesday, and then I can devote ALL MY TIME to the season of real, live tennis at normal times. And clay-court tennis has to be my favourite of all.

Rumours have been starting to circulate that last year's king Juan Carlos may be forced to pull out due to wrist/rib injuries. I think it's got to be down to either the Fed or Coria, with it ultimately being dependent on how Fed plays.

On the women's side... whoever holds up physically and mentally. It's intriguing, because all the leading contenders have a question mark over their form. JHH has just recovered from a virus akin to glandular fever. Serena has been rather listless on clay since her comeback. Venus and Mauresmo have been playing outstanding tennis, but Venus is carrying an ankle injury and Mauresmo... well, we all know what happened last time she went into RG after dominating the clay season. *cough* Jana Kandarr *cough*

My own favourite, Princess Anastasia, has the Draw From Hell: Molik in round one, Mandula in round three, Sprem or Kuznetsova in round 4, Venus in the quarters.

The qualies are all about superkids Shuai Peng and Nicole Vaidisova (at least until the latter - straight outta Prague, 14 years old, six foot tall - imploded in the last round against some Yank scrub).

The Lex (The Lex), Saturday, 22 May 2004 08:56 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh yeah, and watch for the potential Schnyder-Martinez round three match... their match in Charleston this year was one of the biggest bitch-fests I have ever seen on court. Conchita wanted to use the same ball she'd won the last point with, but Patty kept getting to them first and either putting them under her skirt or hitting them into the crowd, before trying to nail Martinez with a volley. They yelled at each other across the net, and at the end Patty put her hand out for the handshake... then withdrew it at the last minute, while giving Martinez a piece of her mind. Then called Conchita a "nasty player" in the press conference.

The Lex (The Lex), Saturday, 22 May 2004 09:05 (twenty-two years ago)

Hmmm....would have figured Batty Patty had had too much trouble keeping her mind in one piece in the first place to be handing out bits of it with such gay abandon.

Fred Nerk (Fred Nerk), Saturday, 22 May 2004 09:45 (twenty-two years ago)

That's why she lost the match innit.

The Lex (The Lex), Saturday, 22 May 2004 09:51 (twenty-two years ago)

That would have been my next question: who won that Battle of the Orotons?

Fred Nerk (Fred Nerk), Saturday, 22 May 2004 09:56 (twenty-two years ago)

MJ - when I was in London, JtN gave me a copy of his Papercuts in which you had written an article on Boris Becker - I loved it! Can you write more, like, maybe, a book, on tennis please?

cozen (Cozen), Saturday, 22 May 2004 14:32 (twenty-two years ago)

A six foot 14-year old GIRL?!

Holy Christ, I'm scared.

Crackity (Crackity Jones), Saturday, 22 May 2004 16:25 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.itftennis.com/shared/medialibrary/image/gallery/IO_2508_gallery.JPG

Official WTA interview with Ms Vaidisova here. Apparently she's already hooked up with the same people who manage Venus Williams and Andy Roddick.

Not much interest among the qualifiers - Gubacsi and Peng both let us down, and instead we get a load of boring Americans. Sigh.

The Lex (The Lex), Saturday, 22 May 2004 16:46 (twenty-two years ago)

(Thanks for the kind words, Cozen. I'm not really a writer though, except in four-second bursts when stoked on Ribena. Glucose gonzo.)

This is just a bump while I clean the oven. Shame about Zsofia.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Sunday, 23 May 2004 12:24 (twenty-two years ago)

It's clearly France Day in France; aside from the star-spangled Dockstader-Shandy cruncher later, there's at least one Fronchee in every showcourt match today.

Just can expect a Test, but I don't foresee any such probs for Ags (though he's shakily returning to the tour) or Dave N Port (though she's up against the Fronchest of the lot - Virginie Pichet). Hennes is up in ten minutes vs Saulnier, a match he could well struggle in.

Worth getting a ground pass for: Corretja-Gambill, Sargsian-Ancic and Schwartz-Sharapova (age still less than seeding - like Wayne R and his squad number - but not for too much longer).

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Monday, 24 May 2004 07:51 (twenty-two years ago)

This tournament is going to play havoc with the last vestiges of my revision. Hrmph. For once, though, I am grateful to the Henperson - I don't feel in the slightest bit tempted to watch Eurosport for him...

JHH a break down already against the Test Tube. Ooh.

The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 24 May 2004 08:25 (twenty-two years ago)

HenHar making heavy weather of Sandrine - blew a chance to serve it out just now at 6-4 5-3; meanwhile the Henbot is making a sprint straight for the grass court season - down a set and a break to Cy.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Monday, 24 May 2004 09:39 (twenty-two years ago)

The glossary is already being warmed up...

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Monday, 24 May 2004 09:42 (twenty-two years ago)

I am very happy this thread exists. I hope it remains comprehensible to anyone who isn't Will, Steady Mike and Fred though :)

Markelby (Mark C), Monday, 24 May 2004 09:49 (twenty-two years ago)

I think the glossary should be saved until the tournament is over - like the notes at the end of 'The Waste Land'.

Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Monday, 24 May 2004 09:51 (twenty-two years ago)

J-Hen through 6-4 6-4, though it seems as if it was a bit of a scuffle in the end.

The scoreboard has gone bonkers in the Safina v Schruff (!!! - there's someone called Schruff!) match. It is ignoring the existence of tie-break scoring, and has now gone back in time twice. It's likely that Safina choked at some point, though.

Barbara Schwartz, erstwhile conqueror of Venus here an eon ago, couldn't solve a problem like Maria and became the first woman out to the tune of 6-3 6-0.

The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 24 May 2004 10:01 (twenty-two years ago)

Henman, fighting like a particularly well-bred dawg, up a minibreak in the 3s tb vs CS Lewis, down two sets. TH's best hope may be CS Gas's hand injury, for which he received treatment a few games ago.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Monday, 24 May 2004 10:41 (twenty-two years ago)

Hand injury? Bah. Oh well, another set at least without the temptation to watch TV, maybe I can actually start revising!

Agatha down a set to a qualifier called Haehnel. Eek. This hot on the heels of an opening round loss last week to Zimonjic.

Grinning Greg seems to have set his sights firmly on the green grass of Queen's - surprisingly good performance in the first set against Verdasco, but he lost that in a TB and appears to have disintegrated somewhat.

The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 24 May 2004 10:46 (twenty-two years ago)

Thimmy ripped through the breaker seven-two; shame in a way, cos I'd have put money on him for SW19 if he'd lost in three here (cf. Edberg in '90, Federer last year, Sampras at some point, prob). But I'm, er, kinda conflicted about that so he's saved me the trouble.

Elsewhere, Agassi is a set down and Rusedski is a set and 0-5 vs Verdasco. Poor Greg. No wonder his signature Donnays were going so cheap at Lillywhites.

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Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Monday, 24 May 2004 10:47 (twenty-two years ago)

I can't eat lunch until this bloody Chicken-Legs match is over, because lunch = my break from revision, and I therefore get to watch TV, but I refuse to waste that on Timothy bloody Henman!

The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 24 May 2004 10:50 (twenty-two years ago)

Henman levels it as two sets all, meanwhile AA is on the RAC vs a man ranked 271 in the world. Is Andre's rollercoaster trundling into its final trough?

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Monday, 24 May 2004 11:23 (twenty-two years ago)

Good lord, Rusedski didn't win another game - 6-7 0-6 0-6, serving no aces. He really is trying too hard to throw the drug testers off his scent, isn't he?

Paradorn S, who's interested in buying a stake in Tranmere Rovers, through in four; Sears-Roebuck struggling to hold at the start of the fifth vs Thamble.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Monday, 24 May 2004 11:28 (twenty-two years ago)

Aggers' opponent is none other than Cyril Sautnier, who gave the Poo a scare on the way to his final spot at last years Wimbledon.

My comment then and now: when you find yourself losing to people called Cyril, it must be time to jack it in.

Fred Nerk (Fred Nerk), Monday, 24 May 2004 11:38 (twenty-two years ago)

B-but that's Henman's opponent, Fred.

Is this top-300er playing the match of his life or is Mr Graf just have a 'mare? He's only made 11 unforced errors according to the statz.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Monday, 24 May 2004 11:41 (twenty-two years ago)

Sorry, my mistake. But the conclusion still applies.

That unforced error count does seem low. Maybe that's AA's trouble: he's trying to play too safe and waiting for this Mr X to get all over-awed and lose it. Maybe their definition of an 'unforced error' is more forgiving than elsewhere.

Maybe the count just needs updating. Notice now it's 13, only a couple more than opponent Jerry (who isn't one, despite a last name which suggests otherwise).

Fred Nerk (Fred Nerk), Monday, 24 May 2004 12:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Dr Dre is out, Timbelina is through in five.

Serra-Spadea looks like a cracker - nearing four hours, Eric has the match in his grasp at 5-1 in the 5th.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Monday, 24 May 2004 12:03 (twenty-two years ago)

Shovelea stays in, then has Serra (who presumably is 'Eric') at 15-30 on serve.

Of course that other Eric (the one created by Michael Palin, who may or may not have been loosely or not so loosely based on Geoffrey Boycott) had a thing about 'shoovels'.

Fred Nerk (Fred Nerk), Monday, 24 May 2004 12:13 (twenty-two years ago)

Guido can't quite flop over the line - Leon is hanging on at 4-5 in the 5th. They've passed the four-hour mark - this is all I ask of outside court dingdongs.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Monday, 24 May 2004 12:18 (twenty-two years ago)

Eric has match point. Vince may need more than a Spear & Jackson no 7 to dig himself out of this hole.

Check scores, only to find it's Vince's ad.

Check again, it's his game. Back on level terms in the fifth.

Fred Nerk (Fred Nerk), Monday, 24 May 2004 12:25 (twenty-two years ago)

Nikita breaks him again - it's five-all in the fifth element. Mental!

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Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Monday, 24 May 2004 12:26 (twenty-two years ago)

Spadea follows up very quickly to go to 6-5, now 'Ayrton' Serra is serving to stay on court.

Fred Nerk (Fred Nerk), Monday, 24 May 2004 12:29 (twenty-two years ago)

...which Ayrton manages to do, not at the first attempt. 6-6.

Fred Nerk (Fred Nerk), Monday, 24 May 2004 12:33 (twenty-two years ago)

GoldenEye serving to stay alive again at 7-8, Starry Starry Night eyeing a remarkable recovery as the clock hits 4h28.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Monday, 24 May 2004 12:45 (twenty-two years ago)

It's Vince, jilting Penny again, 9-7 in the 5th.

Elsewhere, La Mesmo is off and running: 5-2 up vs Server Nova.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Monday, 24 May 2004 12:50 (twenty-two years ago)

I am really really shocked at Agassi!

VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 24 May 2004 12:53 (twenty-two years ago)

And that's it. The Shovelman's thru, 9-7.

Que Serra Serra.

Meanwhile, some character called Lars Burgsmuller is in the process of losing the third after winning the first two against the only slightly less amusingly named Nicolas Mahut.

(I don't know exactly what 'burgsmulling' is slang for, but it sounds like it either is illegal or should be.)

Fred Nerk (Fred Nerk), Monday, 24 May 2004 12:58 (twenty-two years ago)

Agatha's final 2004 clay court record consists of two losses to players ranked below 200, then. Maybe you needed those warm-ups more than you thought, Andre.

First women's epic is underway - Mar-wee Serna leads Mpaperfolding 7-6, having saved two match points at 5-6.

Dokic is losing, but that's pretty much a given these days.

The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 24 May 2004 13:09 (twenty-two years ago)

Roddy blew a break in the first vs Mountain Man Martin but prevailed in the breaker and now has a lead in the second. No double shock on Chatrier then. Demental given a first set scare vs DoubleIc but nicked it in the 'seven point thing' (as Rob B called it in Highbury Fields last Saturday).

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Monday, 24 May 2004 14:59 (twenty-two years ago)

You'd think that if you were 6-0 5-0 30-0 up in a match, you'd pretty much sewn it up, right?

A moment's silence for Lubomira Kurhajcova, who proved otherwise today against Mona Lisa* and who must be feeling really, really bad right now.

Bepa through for the loss of just two games, Dock Itch out after giving up the ghost midway though.

I never thought I would be reduced to cheering on a man like Todd Martin, but this is what Dickhead makes me do.

*most un-apt nickname ever, but it's only Day 1. I'm going to make like J-Hen and say my nicknaming skills will improve as the tournament goes on.

The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 24 May 2004 15:05 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh, and Chandra Levy has withdrawn and is replaced in the draw by one Tzipi Obziler. That's her real name, folks.

The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 24 May 2004 15:06 (twenty-two years ago)

A moment's silence for Lubomira Kurhajcova

Good God, I wasn't following that one. Well done, Baxter.

Oh, and Chandra Levy has withdrawn and is replaced in the draw by one Tzipi Obziler.

I have a new favourite.

Dick at triple set point vs Toddpullel.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Monday, 24 May 2004 15:10 (twenty-two years ago)

We may have little scope for variants on Poup/Poop/Scud/etc this year - driven round the Horna, 1-6 first set.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Monday, 24 May 2004 15:13 (twenty-two years ago)

But Horna! Imagine the fun we can have with that. Variants on 'horny' await.

God, even seeing the Dickhead's name on the scoreboard makes me angry. Grrr.

The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 24 May 2004 15:14 (twenty-two years ago)

And the Demented Diva has dropped the second set 1-6 against Ic-Ic... who may be the first Bosnian to play a Grand Slam ever. Maybe she was inspired by their Eurovision entry!

The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 24 May 2004 15:25 (twenty-two years ago)

Voltchkov triumphed deep into the gloaming, 11-9 in the 5th; La Frenais and Suntory will have to come back tomorrow, forced off at 21:30ish CET (5-5, 5th) to a chorus of boos, no doubt.

Court 1 is the place to be tomorrow; resisting the hype (hey, she only won the French twice), Martina N is only third on the third best court, following a possible epic in Shuttle-Neptune and preceding Growl vs Squeak (Lleyts takes on Joe Pasq).

Defending champ Ferrero might find himself grappling with the twilight - his tricky tie with Daagen-Haas is the fifth rubber on Chatrier.

Come on, Roger!

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Monday, 24 May 2004 20:01 (twenty-two years ago)

Roger massacres the Maaseiker for the loss of four games; another pair of emphatics like that and you'd start to fancy him against Bandy. No probs for Mary Peters. Just wait till she gets to the shot put.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 25 May 2004 09:41 (twenty-two years ago)

Emma Freud's dad and Benny Santini are back at it on Lenglen - 8-7 in the fifth with 5h03 on the clock! I'm hoping for another geologically-long Randy-Younes epic here.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 25 May 2004 10:11 (twenty-two years ago)

Good God, this match has survived two separate internet connection failures - Fabrice now serving for it at 12-11 after 5h45.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 25 May 2004 10:50 (twenty-two years ago)

Elsewhere - Infinite Legz finds herself Asagoinggoinggone 6-1 6-3, Rittner takes the Battle Of The Barbaras 6-3 6-3 over Schitt, and the French start to get 'that Wimbledon feeling' as five of their lot are out by lunchtime, Razzano and Mary P being the only ones to escape the chop thus far.

Also, Klara Koukalova manages to break the 'top name, shit game' hex that afflicted Janko Tipsarevic and Alex Bogolomov Jr. yesterday, by getting through 7-6 7-6 against Golovin. She beat someone once, didn't she?

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Tuesday, 25 May 2004 10:56 (twenty-two years ago)

And presumably it's raining.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Tuesday, 25 May 2004 11:19 (twenty-two years ago)

Have there been weather stoppages? Santa is holding on grimly at 13-14 [40/40] in the 5th after... JESUS... six hours and twenty-one minutes.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 25 May 2004 11:28 (twenty-two years ago)

OK, we're in Pasarell-Gonzalez (Wimb '69) or McEnroe-Wilander (Davis Cup '82) territory. "If you've got any history books at home, throw they away, they're useless now."

Arnie in trouble, love-thirty at 14-14; 387mins on court.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 25 May 2004 11:31 (twenty-two years ago)

Santoro, serving for it, has recovered from 0/40 to deuce...

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 25 May 2004 11:39 (twenty-two years ago)

Guess whose web connection went down for the fifth time today on match point?

Santoro, 6-4 6-3 6-7 3-6 16-14 in 6hr35. I'm going to stick my neck out and say that's the longest men's match of all time (not continuous, mind).

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 25 May 2004 11:49 (twenty-two years ago)

Well, the live score thing at RolandGarros.Com wasn't working, and still isn't, so it probably wasn't the rain after all. Hmm.

Enqvist, Grosjean, Schiavone and Schnyder all through comfortably.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Tuesday, 25 May 2004 12:31 (twenty-two years ago)

I got back from my exam, and the first thing I heard was my housemate leaning out of the window shouting "longest men's match ever! longest men's match ever!"

Bloody Golovin. All my teenage prodigies are letting me down. K-Kou beat Seles once though, so it's not a horrendous loss.

Vee and Ree both through in the blink of an eye; last week's Strasbourg heroine Clouds pierced thoroughly by La Diva. Zippy Tzipi out to She-Ra Perry.

Another Rainy day as Schuttler continues his miserable year; erstwhile Capriati amour X-Man wins comfortably.

Gorgeous Gisela resists the return of the Nav to the tune of 6-1 6-3, which means that when the Ageless One finally gets a ranking after this tournament it will be - eek - below 900.

The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 25 May 2004 14:10 (twenty-two years ago)

Aargh - a whole afternoon without web access as IT went into meltdown.

Impressive four-set win for the defending champ over the pinball wizard; just like old, more wintry times as Nordic warhorses Bjorkman and Enqvist line up against each other in r2; currently gasting my flabber in varying degrees - the fact that Chewitt hasn't dispensed of the squeaker yet (and looks like he might drop set three) and the alarming mid-match droop from Kuerten, sagging off the rails as Almagro prepares to serve for two sets all.

Mystikal struggled but sneaked through as did The Threshing Machine - 7-5 in the third against Ali Najid.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 25 May 2004 16:44 (twenty-two years ago)

Tonight's dusky drama is from the laydees - Ford Capri struggling to shift out of second gear against all-nite laser-discotheque bakery
!Baygel Zimer! It's 3-3 in the 3rd, the girl from the Uke fighting to hold serve.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 25 May 2004 18:01 (twenty-two years ago)

Bagel choked :( :( JenFat feasts on her and presumably becomes JenEvenMoreFat.

Castanet v Gaudy suspended at two sets all. I wouldn't put it past them to surpass the record set by Fab Fabrice and, er, Arnaud today.

The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 25 May 2004 18:39 (twenty-two years ago)

Arnie Clem gets quote of the day when asked what he thought about setting a record.

"I don't care. What do I get? A medal?".

edward o (edwardo), Tuesday, 25 May 2004 20:38 (twenty-two years ago)

The previous incumbent of the 'longest time spent losing a tennis match' Guinness entry, Mats Wilander, said something kinda interesting in a BBC chat-thing last week - he reckoned the biggest difference in the modern game was that most players seemed to go out on court with the intention of playing their own game to the utmost of their ability; in his day, the plan was to focus on your opponent's weaknesses and make him as badly as possible. I don't why that never really struck me before (I don't think about tennis nearly enough, clearly).

Mats caught a bit of flak back in the day for writing off Sampras as a potential world-beater when 18-year-old Pistol ended MW's reign as champion at the '89 US Open; he'd never seen anyone go quite so hell-for-leather on every shot before, mixing hopeless errors with inspired winners with no apparent design, and didn't think anyone so inconsistent could win anything. Becker, reckoned Mats, was the precursor to this sort of tennis (though he tempered his style into his early 20s).

In other news, Snoop Dogg has come out as a Lendl fan. "He was the truth," said Mr Dogg.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 25 May 2004 20:53 (twenty-two years ago)

Chela downed Verdasco without much trouble - I shudder when I think what he might have done to Rusedski; the complementary record to Santoro-Clement's perhaps? No nice little Serna for Magui as DoubleVera nudged her out of the way, burrowing into the last 32. Nadia's pet Rover savaged FedAk, leaving a trail of ripped boxes the length and breadth of the mailroom.

Right now, Coria is M*A*S*Hing up Monaco (preview of tonight?) and Escude and Moya are motoring nicely.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 26 May 2004 10:24 (twenty-two years ago)

Thai pinned - Paradigm's errors punished by The Correktja; Man of Hen off to a flyer: 6-0 first set vs high-cal meat yoghurt Burger Muller. Moya through, Lena Horna and DJ Porridge in a lumpy tussle.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 26 May 2004 10:49 (twenty-two years ago)

Henema through with great ease and probably a dash of polish - love, three and three. Great drama developing with the dames though: Justi is getting clobbered by Garbin (7-5 1-0) and Amelie M, untouchable in the first set vs Funky Cold Medina, is Loc'd at one set all.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 26 May 2004 12:11 (twenty-two years ago)

what, the real Snoop Dog or do I need to get the glossary out again?

zebedee (zebedee), Wednesday, 26 May 2004 12:27 (twenty-two years ago)

I was "for real" about Snoopy, as the young gentlemen with the microphones are prone to say, Mr Zed.

Hardenne cannot hold on to a break to save her life at the mo' - in a second she'll be serving to stay in the tournament at 4-5. Yikes!

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 26 May 2004 12:56 (twenty-two years ago)

The Queen is dead, boys.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 26 May 2004 13:02 (twenty-two years ago)

JHH's opponent's nickname is Tax, apparently.

Tax breaks - and it's all over. Oh. My. God.

The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 26 May 2004 13:02 (twenty-two years ago)

Following Nicole Pratt's demise at the hands of Ellie the Demented, and the Big Ouzo's only slightly less predictable exit yesterday, it's now Llonelly Lleyt as far as Australia is concerned as the Hopes Of A Nation now rest unsteadily on his less than massive shoulders.

Fred Nerk (Fred Nerk), Wednesday, 26 May 2004 13:54 (twenty-two years ago)

Something of a pall has descended over the office after news of the fall of Justine; only defeat for The Dick can cheer us up. But it's not happening so far - O I Must is O I Can't; Pandy in the ascendancy.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 26 May 2004 14:47 (twenty-two years ago)

Mutis grabs the second set 6-3, takes and then loses an early break in the third. There is hope of an upset here.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 26 May 2004 15:31 (twenty-two years ago)

The man from Metz may have given his final judder - A-Rod nicks the third on a breaker and not even dear, dear Larry may stop him now.

On the subject of Olivier, Marathon Man is running out of juice on Chatrier - Labadze up two sets to one, Fabric's legs must be 1000-dernier and rising.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 26 May 2004 15:59 (twenty-two years ago)

Santoro can't stop himself - they'll be charging him rent on that court soon - takes the 4th set 6-1 and we're into a decider. That's over nine hours he's been on Chatrier in the first three days.

Mut's hanging in - 4-3 on serve in the 4th vs Sandy.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 26 May 2004 16:27 (twenty-two years ago)

4th set Mutis 6-3! Go on, Larry! I'm off to the pub - a pint for each time Roddick's serve is broken in set five, I hope.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 26 May 2004 16:34 (twenty-two years ago)

Mutis is serving for it at 5-2 in the 5th!

And Santoro is into a 5th set as well. That man is taking some punishment.

Crackity (Crackity Jones), Wednesday, 26 May 2004 17:00 (twenty-two years ago)

RODDICK IS GONE!

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Wednesday, 26 May 2004 17:40 (twenty-two years ago)

Elsewhere - Klara Kouk-A-Doodle-doesn't, going out to arguably-even-more-fantastically-named Anna Smashnova-Pistolesi. Shari-La dances across Rita Grande 6-2 6-0, and has conced only 5 games the whole tournament. Eek. Spanish tongue-twisting terror Arantxa Parra Santonja inflicts similar misery on Everybody Loves Raymond, 6-4 6-0, and Jie Zheng probably becomes the most successful Chinese tennis player ever by disposing of Emmie Loit 6-4 6-1.

In the red-hot male-on-male action, Gaudio wraps up Canas with disappointing alacrity (6-2 in the fifth), Mario "Isn't He Meant To Quite Good?" Ancic zib-zabs Zabaleta, and Raemon Sluiter does the same to Dominik "No Obvious Pun At This Time" Hrbaty. Oh, and Moya's through with qutie scary ease, dropping just four games against Gil Vicente.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Wednesday, 26 May 2004 17:52 (twenty-two years ago)

I've just gone and thought of a pun for Dominik Hrbaty. But he's out now. Oh well. Save it for Wimbledon, eh...

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Wednesday, 26 May 2004 18:09 (twenty-two years ago)

The Marathon Man finally takes out Georgia Porgia 6-2 in the 5th. Haehnel sets out to prove his Agassi victory wasn't a fluke, and fails in four sets against Llodratron. Busty Chilean Massu (New In Town) gives Wor Vlad a straight-sets going over, Mikhail Youzhny takes the Battle Of The People You Think You've Heard Of But You Might Be Confusing Them With Someone Else against Andrei Pavel, Spadey gets turfed by Julie & Jean-Pierre, and Robredo and Escude get through fairly easy too

Giving a shout out to the ladies, Farina Elia falls to The Redemption Kid, Suarez gives the Douchebag a kicking, Little Miss Marat is scared off her... tarat by Missy Irvin, Maggie M takes her time to get round Marrero, Tatiana Perebiynis leads Harkleroad up the garden path, and Marlene Weingartner wins as well. Well done Marlene Weingartner.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Wednesday, 26 May 2004 18:41 (twenty-two years ago)

Tatiana Perebiynis - best name left in, surely.

Mutis outbroke my pint-sinking but Roddick got one back so we're square. I'd loved to have seen this - people have been purring about Olly for ages but he can't work out the gears on the talent/results mill. Americans left in the men's singles: 0. French players left: 8 (5 already in r3, 2 guaranteed into r4). Boy George vindicated.

Jenriati in trouble early on but breaks back at the right time; Christophe will not, will not Rochus - 1-6 first set vs Costa del Bert. Fedz may face more of a test from Sutherland later and Grosjean (outside bet for the title?) faces - oh, wow! - POTITO STARACE.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Thursday, 27 May 2004 08:54 (twenty-two years ago)

isn't that a court surface?

Markelby (Mark C), Thursday, 27 May 2004 09:22 (twenty-two years ago)

Arkel - I dunno, I bet it chips and peels really easily.

Best Chinese GS performance: perhaps Yi Jingqian reaching the last 32 at the 2000 Aussie Open. Jie Zheng has a chance of eclipsing that if Garbin slips from the zonal high that took her past Justi; JZ was a doubles quarterfinalist this year in Melbourne and is currently ranked #58 in singles. This is 14,000 places higher than the best British woman - Mrs Marjorie Creeble, 52, club treasurer at Hove & District Croquet and Drag Racing Association - who has a mean topspin sort-of-scoopy-off-the-floor shot.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Thursday, 27 May 2004 09:51 (twenty-two years ago)

We very nearly have our first Opal Fruits moment of the event - Federer is through (three, four & six over Keef) and Kuerten is about ready to block his path, up 6-2 6-0 4-2 vs Elseneer. Almost worth missing the playoff final for (the pub in Crystal Palace that would show Eurosport this Saturday afternoon exists only in my head; it also has Mort Subite on tap and Pan Sonic on the jukebox).

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Thursday, 27 May 2004 12:37 (twenty-two years ago)

The Llonely Boy's through, although not without a few headaches and a fourth set from Jurgen 'Alke' Melzer. But the carnage continues among les mesadmes, with Boom Crash Sugiyami, Batty Patty and 29th seed 'Nelson' Mandula all joining JHH on le next plane outre there. (What of the future Mrs Llonely Boy? She seems conspicuously absent.)

Sorry I failed to chronicle the demise of 'Sandshoe Face II' last night (SF I of course being Ivan Lendl). Results like that almost make up for the past sins of this event, such as making Thomas Muster #1.

Fred Nerk (Fred Nerk), Thursday, 27 May 2004 13:47 (twenty-two years ago)

Spud-u-like is making starchy fools of us all (well, me) by running rings round Seb - two sets up, he threatens to crinkle-cut his way to an advantage in set three.

OK, it's KwikPoll time - best Fronchy final ever? Evert-Nav in '85? Graf-Hingis in '99? Lendl-Mac in '84? The Norman-Kuerten final from 2000 was apparently action-packed but I never saw it.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Thursday, 27 May 2004 14:45 (twenty-two years ago)

It's going to be hard to keep this going with the in-laws around and I expect they're on the South Circular in a cab as I type but...

Yesterday we lost the other half of our golden pair - at the same stage too. Ferrero-Andreev being the only tennis I've so far seen: two points on Breakfast TV with JC looking drained, as if he taken a midnight stroll with Baron Latos.

Safin and Mantilla have one eye (each) on the Clement-Santoro record; play suspended last night at 7-7 in the 5th, who knows how long on court. Shades of Flinders Park (can I still call it that?). Safin was 4-1, possibly 5-1, in the decider at 8:45-ish CET last night.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Friday, 28 May 2004 07:06 (twenty-two years ago)

OK, it's KwikPoll time - best Fronchy final ever?

I've only been watching them since '97... but I'm going with Graf v Hingis, oh the drama... just edging out Capriati v Clijsters, which I suspect I would've found more fun had I actually liked watching either play. The men seem to have a knack of producing the best tennis of the year in all rounds except the final, lately... wasn't Norman v Kuerten a SF? And wherefore Norman these days anyway?

The Incredible Hulk (Fuchsia Version) vs Kirikirilenko was amazing last night... the Russian teenager (yes, you read right, there is a talented young player from that country) has serious game. She was placing the ball exactly where she wanted on the court with scant regard for Serena's hard hitting, and utterly confusing her with changes of pace and direction at times. And she even loves to come to net! Then she went up 4-2 in the decider, served at 4-3 and choked with two double faults. Bah. Not entirely impressed with Serena's behaviour - fair enough, you want to win and it's good to see the girls being aggressive... but pumping your fist and screaming 'YES!' after your opponent's double fault or a fluky net cord is beyond classless. Also, please don't act so offended when someone hits a winner against you... you're not the only player in the world with talent. </rant>

Other happenings: Big John out to the Star Ace; Tommy E wins the battle of the Swedes against Vespertine Man; Costa Brava and Bandy move on quietly; Gorgeous Gisela beats both '94 Wimbledon finalists back to back, defeating Cowchita Mootinez in straights - could anyone have imagined back then that ten years on, someone would take out both of them in a Slam and still only be in the third round?; Kirilenko may have choked, but like Jason's army the Russians just keep popping up everywhere with Myskina, Kuznetsova and Bovina all through.

The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 28 May 2004 07:28 (twenty-two years ago)

No, the Kuerten-Norman match was the title match; Magnus had been the form player on clay that year but seemed to have nothing left for the final - Guga romping through the first two sets. Norman took the third, then faced double championship point at 4-5 15/40 in the 4th - he hit a forehand smack on the line which Gustavo queried and the ump had to check. At 5-6 he survived seven deuces and four more match points; at 3-6 in the breaker GK made three wild errors in a row. Finally a Swedish mistake gave it to Gusty on his 11th match point (he converted seven of 32 break points in the match).

(Thanks to the web and memories of my wife's breathless account of the drama after I got in that evening for those details.)

Marat and Felix are kicking their heels waiting to resume their epic -'etja and 'ela deep into a fourth set on their court. Henman going remarkably well vs HM Slade's oldest inmate - 7-6 6-1 2-1. Last 16 at last? Llodra coasting through the first of the day's all-French-all-the-time match-ups - and it would be Henmo next. They met at Wimbledon last year and people were briefly transported into the 1970s so dainty a touchfest was it.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Friday, 28 May 2004 11:14 (twenty-two years ago)

Henman through: 7-6 6-1 6-2. That's bloody impressive against a wily old clayslugger like Galo. And Llodra next. You have to fancy TH for the quarters (kiss of death, obv.)

Juan Ignacio in control vs Alex C - 5-2 in the 4th; Perebiynis is not long for this world - in crisis vs Suarez, so who does that leave with a mouthful of a name? Is Myriam Casanova still in?

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Friday, 28 May 2004 11:29 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh I remember 2000 now! Guga beat Ferrero in an epic in his semi.

Tax Breaks didn't break enough today - Zheng zhings through to round 4, and this is officially the best Slam performance ever by a Chinese woman.

Bad, bad losses for the Russians - Bepa loses to Shaz, while Pet comes up short against Marlene On The Wall.

Wee Willie still looking impressive, dismissing SuperMario with ease.

The World's Greatest Lover is still in, though if Kuznetsova keeps herself together tomorrow it won't be for long...

The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 28 May 2004 15:50 (twenty-two years ago)

Pity the Marathon Man - Larry's asked him to open wide and drilled six molars without reply in the first set. Moya is burying Sluiter.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Friday, 28 May 2004 15:53 (twenty-two years ago)

It's all about the bagel sets today it seems - Moo Tea and Carlos both opened their matches with one (and as of yet, Olivier has not lost a game - it's all caught up with FabFabrice, it would seem). And the Demented Diva, ever contrary, has opened her match by losing one. No, Elena. That's not how it should be working.

The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 28 May 2004 16:01 (twenty-two years ago)

Mutey dispatches the wilting Santoro 6-0 6-2 6-3 and gets rewarded with a tie against the dangerous looking Heyla Chela, but still seems like France's last, best hope for getting anywhere in the men's - Escude's got a massive task against Coria, and Llodratron's got the Henblokey, who can only be helped by the court not being full of people he'd much rather kick in the eye. Those three are all pretty tasty looking, but the big tie of the fourth round thus far has to be Moya, who's only dropped one set in the tournament (against JVL Multitool) and young Tommy Robredo, who's already straight-setted Alberto Martin and Nicolas Massu. The winner of that has got a really very good chance of being one of the finalists so long as they can make it past Coria.

Women sees Zheng's run almost certainly ending against Paola Suarez, who has hardly broken sweat never mind lost a set thus far. You'd also reckon Mesmo can get by Maggie, because it's Amelie's home turf and, well, not to be rude, but it's Maggie Maleeva. The idea of her getting anywhere in a Grand Slam is one that I find strange and confusing. The other two are harder calls - Big Dave vs. Dementia because Lindsay has said she didn't really fancy her chances on clay (hasn't stopped her from winning every set so far, mind), and Dementia because she was oh-so-slightly lucky against Smashnova. Then there's The Future Of The Women's Game, who's hardly looked in any trouble thus far, and Marley Marl, who got pushed to three sets by Maria Elena Camerin but straight setted the seeded Petrova and Daniilidou.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 28 May 2004 19:26 (twenty-two years ago)

Great how Tim really got through rounds 2 and 3 with no problems. Hoping he gets to the quarters at the very least.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Friday, 28 May 2004 20:23 (twenty-two years ago)

Tim's looked really strong. I'm off down the bookie's tomorrow morning to put a pony on Llodra.

I used to wuv Manuela Maleeva. And Andrea Jaeger. And Hana Mandlikova. Does this age me/indicate what terrible taste in lesbians I have?

Markelby (Mark C), Friday, 28 May 2004 20:48 (twenty-two years ago)

Manuela's no lesbian, she has a whole brood of children. Those are all players whom people try to convince me that I would've liked had I been a decade older.

Hasn't the Magster reached a Slam QF before? In the ancient, prehistoric days pre-Williams?

I saw a bit of the Demented Diva against the Smash Pistol - my god, the Diva's serve is the worst thing I have ever seen, one of her second serves was 38mph! How, when she hits it so slowly, does she still manage to serve so many double faults?

I'm shocked that The Future beat Bepa - I like her, but honestly, I don't think a single thought passes through her young blonde brain at any point when she's on court.

The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 28 May 2004 21:27 (twenty-two years ago)

I wasn't really saying she was, Lex. I juist made a crass generalisation about women tennis players.

(my aunt works as a physio at Wimbledon every year - many an evening has been spent with her discussing the personalities, sexualities and scandals present in the women's dressing room)

Markelby (Mark C), Friday, 28 May 2004 21:45 (twenty-two years ago)

OK... GOSSIP NOW THX

The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 28 May 2004 22:31 (twenty-two years ago)

Wow... Guga just rolled back the years, and FedEx just looked totally confused out there... the final score 6-4 6-4 6-4. The crowd were going wild, and I must say that even I felt a little bit sentimental.

Fatriati, the Contessa Anastasia and Williams Jr both through, though the former struggled a lot and ultimately got a bit lucky vs the Bovine One.

Eurosport are currently showing someone called Igor Andreev. HOT.

The Lex (The Lex), Saturday, 29 May 2004 12:50 (twenty-two years ago)

Guga's win a little bit like Mecir's dismantling of Edberg at Wimb '86 - at the same stage too, I think. Fed's time will come; but what price a fourth title for Kuert? Only Bandy will start favourite against him from the top half. Maybe Os Mutantes from the bottom half?

I've spent all of 30 seconds trying to think of a parallel between Pierce-Venus and Palace-Hammers (I'm foregoing the former for the latter) without involving the words 'ice princess' and 'Sister Sledge' and I can't do it. Come on you Eagles!

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Saturday, 29 May 2004 13:05 (twenty-two years ago)

General Kettle - of whom we know nothing, save he came through the qualies, he's Italian, 22 and ranked outside the top 200 - is up a set and a break vs Safin; Bandy is set-all and into a 3s breaker with Koubek; Captain Verkerk is gamely refusing to hand over last year's bounty of ranking points and go quietly - up a break in the third vs Hewitt after splitting the first two sets.

Shocking Blue murderized Quite Contrary three and one. Max of one Williams in the final though - Shap vs Resmo in the other half?

Oh, and Palace are in the Premiership. But that's another thread.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Saturday, 29 May 2004 15:42 (twenty-two years ago)

I have this odd feeling that I can't get real-time scores on the puter. Where is everyone else getting theirs off?

Also - Handy Andy picks off JJ Bendytoes to set up a match with the Galloping Gourmet, and Feliciano Lopez does for Half-Decent Lee and finds himself as the next obstacle to Gustavo Kuerten Heroic Comeback 2K4 starring Yahoo Serious and Juliette Binoche coming to a screen near you Fall 2005 (a FilmFour production)

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Saturday, 29 May 2004 15:55 (twenty-two years ago)

Live scores - the IBM scoreboard on http://www.rolandgarros.org - it sometimes goes a bit bonkers but at the moment appears to be fine.

My Marat came back! He took the second set and now needs to speed through the rest of the match if he is to have any chance against the Bandy Andean. I suspect that they're showing Ver Llout and Ver Kerk on TV though, and Ican't stand either so will avoid.

Who reaches the ladies' final from the top half is dependent on which stage Mauresmo chooses to choke at.

The Lex (The Lex), Saturday, 29 May 2004 16:17 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah, I tend to use the full-page score update page (http://www.rolandgarros.com/en_FR/scores/index.html) at home and the IBM Scoreboard at work; the latter takes an age to load on dial-up and the former eats CPU like nobody's business (and if you launch it then redirect the browser to something else before it's loaded the scores, an orphan process hangs around at 100% until you shut down Internet Explorer completely).

I expect an old-fashioned alternative is long-wave radio (happy memories of listening to a French station broadcasting Leconte's victory over Becker in '88, or the German channel carrying Westphal-Edberg in the '85 Davis Cup).

Our Stacey, having blown his 4-1 lead in set two vs Saffy, isn't so careless in set three. But we expect Marat to win every match in five sets, so Lex needn't worry yet. Ffurious Bball Of Rruddy-Ffaced Hhate looks to have wrested control from last year's Best Loser - up 3-0 in the decider. Bandy makes the last 16 with a tough win over Kouhoutek; Xavier a set up on Costa.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Saturday, 29 May 2004 16:50 (twenty-two years ago)

That's what I've been trying to use. It obviously doesn't like this bit of Croydon, then.

Venus-Capriati is a certainty, isn't it? (Even though I reckon Shinobu Dragon Ninja is going to squeak Serena)

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Saturday, 29 May 2004 16:54 (twenty-two years ago)

The Llout won :(

Venus-Capriati? Well, as patchy as Serena's form is... it's JenFat who's dropped two sets so far just to get to the last 16, and Frankee may well give her the "fuck you" in the next round. If Serena-JenFat materialises, I'd definitely give the Fuchsia Hulk the edge. As for Venus, I retain a possibly misguided hope that whichever of my Russinas meets her in the QF can beat her... humour me.

The Lex (The Lex), Saturday, 29 May 2004 17:02 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh, and http://livescore.com/tennis.dll does live scores for all tennis tournaments throughout the year - it's not point-by-point but it does the job.

The Lex (The Lex), Saturday, 29 May 2004 17:03 (twenty-two years ago)

I hope you're right about Asagoe but I think Mysky has more of a chance vs Venus. Schiavone's a funny one - another possible three-set slugfest for JenCap.

Hewie Llewis through in five, Bert hits back vs Lisse, Saffron still to make the breakthrough vs Wedges.

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Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Saturday, 29 May 2004 17:09 (twenty-two years ago)

This is true. Serena dropped a set against Kirilenko, and Capriati dropped one aginst Yulia Begelzeimer... we shall see what we shall see. Could well be that the match against Schiavone might stretch Jen a bit more than she'd like, though Asagoe's defeinitely not going to be any easier for Serena.

The livescore site shows us that the Dirty Old Man just ripped set 2 from the X-Man, and Marat and Mister Potito Head are having a right old ding-dong too...

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Saturday, 29 May 2004 17:13 (twenty-two years ago)

Has Marat met his Charlotte Corday? Starace serves for it!

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Saturday, 29 May 2004 17:24 (twenty-two years ago)

Jean-Paul breaks back after an epic game - this may not finish tonight (Costa-Malisse certainly won't: 1-1s, 3-3g).

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Saturday, 29 May 2004 17:36 (twenty-two years ago)

Safin takes the 4th 7-5 - this is heroic stuff. Once again I'm going to conjure a possibly inappropriate Wimbledon memory from THE EIGHTIES - Lendl scrambling to victory over an inspired Paolo Cane, first Friday, 1987 (simultaneously on the old court one Peter Doohan was creating one of the top five moments in sporting history).

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Saturday, 29 May 2004 17:47 (twenty-two years ago)

Another five setter for Maratski. Sigh. At least I know he has stamina.

The Lex (The Lex), Saturday, 29 May 2004 17:48 (twenty-two years ago)

Xav-Xav's got a break in the fourth. Starjumps and Saffy 3-3 in the fifth...

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Saturday, 29 May 2004 18:17 (twenty-two years ago)

Saffo 5-4 up...

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Saturday, 29 May 2004 18:21 (twenty-two years ago)

OK Albert, you need to close this out in four so you have energy left to crush Chewitt. Am serious. Get to it.

You too Marat.

The Lex (The Lex), Saturday, 29 May 2004 18:22 (twenty-two years ago)

It's 9:27pm CET - and 5-5 in the 5th. I'm thinking two more games and they'll be off for the night, regardless. Perhaps the same on court one.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Saturday, 29 May 2004 18:27 (twenty-two years ago)

And The Potito Man extends the set's life (that HURTS, dammit) to 5-5...

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Saturday, 29 May 2004 18:27 (twenty-two years ago)

Double match point for Saffy!

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Saturday, 29 May 2004 18:31 (twenty-two years ago)

Sadean agonies - he's had and lost four match points now - the last two off 120km/h second serves.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Saturday, 29 May 2004 18:36 (twenty-two years ago)

Saffie's won! :)

The Lex (The Lex), Saturday, 29 May 2004 18:38 (twenty-two years ago)

Safin wins on his...6th? 7th? 8th? m-p. I reckon he's been on court longer than Santoro in this tournament (especially considering the manner of Fabrice's exit). They appear to be trying to finish the 4th set on court #1...b-but it must be completely dark!

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Saturday, 29 May 2004 18:40 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh, Gawd, now Costa's squandered two m-ps at 5-4. When will the madness end?

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Saturday, 29 May 2004 18:43 (twenty-two years ago)

Two MPs saved... 5-5... you can hear the organisers gnashing their teeth from here.

I was spared Safin's agonies because I was making Caesar salad.

The Lex (The Lex), Saturday, 29 May 2004 18:44 (twenty-two years ago)

How late did McEnroe and Lendl play when they met in the last 16 in '88? They split two tie-break sets on a damp court and had to come back the next day - JPMc so stiff after his twilight excursions that he folded in sets three and four.

OK, it's 5-5 between Costa and Malisse and that's yer lot. 9:46pm. Bloody hell.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Saturday, 29 May 2004 18:46 (twenty-two years ago)

And that's all for today folks! Hopefully Chicken Legs will lose in double-quick time tomorrow so that I get to see something decent on Eurosport.

The Lex (The Lex), Saturday, 29 May 2004 18:47 (twenty-two years ago)

Safin takes it 7-5 in the last, but Starace's stock will have risen loads - his singles earnings this year are under ten grand, and his highest ever world ranking is 161.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Saturday, 29 May 2004 18:48 (twenty-two years ago)

Winner of Safin v Nalbandian, incidentally, will be the only man to have reached the quarter-finals or better at both Slams this year... (the women in line to do it: Mauresmo, Big Dave, THE PRINCESS, Fabulous Fabi)

The Lex (The Lex), Saturday, 29 May 2004 20:24 (twenty-two years ago)

What a strangely crowded face Guga has acquired since he lost all his mad curls. What passed for extended highlights on News 24 - I got to see five, maybe six points. This ruddy golf tournament means no middle weekend coverage on BBC Grandstands (I presume, unless there's some special Henman-related change to programming).

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Saturday, 29 May 2004 22:23 (twenty-two years ago)

Old Chipolata will have earned 90 ranking points for making it through the qualifying and reaching the last 32 - putting him on 271 for the year (presuming that this time last year he was dawdling around the Futures/Challenger circuit so there aren't many points to drop from his 52-week total), which is enough to lift him from #202 into the top 150.

Had he taken his chances to beat Safin he'd have had 346 points, elevating him to the hundred-and-teens, within touching distance of direct entry in the Slams (somehow I doubt we'll see him at Roehampton anyway). If the ATP hadn't stupidly dropped the bonus system for beating highly ranked players, he have had an even greater prize.

Court #1 the place to be today for the women's: four of the last 16 matches are there (Sharap, I Never Promised You A Wine Garden, Zheng-a-leng, Crisis, Nasty, Svet's Life, Cappifer and Sheer Voney) punctuated only by (we hope) a knock-up and about ten points from Alby and Xavy.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Sunday, 30 May 2004 07:57 (twenty-two years ago)

There's a couple of hours (1-3pm) on grandstand. Better than nothing really.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Sunday, 30 May 2004 08:09 (twenty-two years ago)

Wow. 38mph second serves notwithstanding, Dementia is up 6-1 2-1 on Big Dave. Meanwhile, Iggy just saved a set point against Moo Tea, and The Future is looking good against Wine Bar.

The Lex (The Lex), Sunday, 30 May 2004 08:53 (twenty-two years ago)

Menko is through - one and three over Porter Stout. Amazin'.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Sunday, 30 May 2004 09:14 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh, and thanks Julio - I'll set the VCR.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Sunday, 30 May 2004 09:15 (twenty-two years ago)

It's all-Russian so far as Shaz follows hot on the heels of E-Dem, by a nigh-on identical scoreline of 6-3 6-1.

The Lex (The Lex), Sunday, 30 May 2004 09:28 (twenty-two years ago)

Hey-Ya not bound for Mu-Mu land just yet - one set all and 1-1 in the third.

Timbody is 1-0 up in the first against Metal Mickey.

I'm really heavily tempted to put a fiver on Sharapova to win the whole thing. She is in form...

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Sunday, 30 May 2004 10:17 (twenty-two years ago)

Cosworth Power 6-5 up against That Belgian Guy...

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Sunday, 30 May 2004 10:19 (twenty-two years ago)

And Llodra's got first break of serve on Henzuki...

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Sunday, 30 May 2004 10:20 (twenty-two years ago)

Back comes Malisse - tie-break ahoy!

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Sunday, 30 May 2004 10:23 (twenty-two years ago)

Which goes to... Dr X. You didn't want it, but you've got it anyway - they're driving all night...

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Sunday, 30 May 2004 10:31 (twenty-two years ago)

Things are not looking good for Timothy - 5-3 down in the first against Llodra. Chela inching towards the third set against Ollyollyolly.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Sunday, 30 May 2004 10:41 (twenty-two years ago)

Goddamn, Chicken-Legs staged a comeback and it's 5-5 now. CAN THIS MATCH BE OVER SOON PLEASE.

The juniors are playing now. Looking at the draws... well, if any of these people make it, we won't need nicknames ever again, not with real names like Pichittra Thongdach, Eden Marama, Katerina Kramperova, Bibiane Schoofs, Alize Cornet, Yasmin Schnack, Estefania Balda, Masa Zec-Peskiric, Eduardo Schwank, Lukas Lacko, Remko De Rijke, and Woong-Sun Jun.

The Lex (The Lex), Sunday, 30 May 2004 10:55 (twenty-two years ago)

Costa Brava serves for the match - and chokes! X-Man takes it 8-6 in the fifth, and I wouldn't like to be near Costa right now.

J-Ig quells Mutya in four sets, too.

The Lex (The Lex), Sunday, 30 May 2004 11:39 (twenty-two years ago)

(FAS&C? is fast looking like a very good idea when Wombledon rolls round...)

Henners is ding-ding-a-donging against Llodra - 5-5 in the fifth, he lost the first two sets 7-6 6-4, then came back to take the next two 6-4 6-3 - Llodra gets match point on Henman's serve at 5-4, can't do anything... blimey.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Sunday, 30 May 2004 14:04 (twenty-two years ago)

And how much have we missed? Timmers clobbers his way through to a heartbreaking 9-7 fifth set victory.

By way of contrast, Scu retires against Coria after losing the opener 6-0.

Elsewhere, JieJie goes down fighting against THE DARK HORSE, and Mesmo makes stunningly short work of Milk-Snatcher, 6-2 6-1. Kiss Kiss bludgeons her way to a one set lead against Mysky.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Sunday, 30 May 2004 14:33 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh, and Steady Mike, could you please join the BBC's commentary team? Me and my dad really should be finding more valuable ways to spend our time than figuring out if we know anyone who could do a hit on Andrew Castle...

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Sunday, 30 May 2004 14:35 (twenty-two years ago)

He should beat the lower ranked player and I'm glad he didn't let that 4th r -> QF psychological barrier stop him, though it very nearly did.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Sunday, 30 May 2004 14:37 (twenty-two years ago)

Mysky 5-4 up in the second. Venus 3-0 up on Fabby-O-La in the first.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Sunday, 30 May 2004 14:49 (twenty-two years ago)

And Mysky levels the match at 1-1. Serena takes the first against Revenge Of Shinobu 6-3. Fabs having a horrid time against The Other One, 4-0 down now.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Sunday, 30 May 2004 14:53 (twenty-two years ago)

Shin shoots too narrow, and Serena breezes through 6-3 6-1. Having blown the first set, Fabby's back to 4-4 in the second. Sweaty Couscous 6-5 up in the final round of the All-Russian Featherweight Championship...

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Sunday, 30 May 2004 15:41 (twenty-two years ago)

Myski flip reverses to 7-6, but it's got to be two clear games... Fabz clinging on heroically at 5-6 down...

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Sunday, 30 May 2004 15:48 (twenty-two years ago)

God, I missed a lot. Henman trailed 6-7 4-6 4-3 when I passed a comically overpriced B&O telly in Selfridges at 2:45 so they'll be precious little of his heroics on my videotape. Interestingly, it's the same tape that features highlights of Rafter-Agassi from Wimb 2000. Will Xav have anything left for tthe cchallenge oof Lleytz?

Bantustove's last gasp to stay in it vs Venus may just have evaporated - from a minibreak up to a minibreak down in the 2s t/b.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Sunday, 30 May 2004 15:55 (twenty-two years ago)

Zulu goes out fighting, 7-6 in the end.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Sunday, 30 May 2004 15:59 (twenty-two years ago)

Mysky's Big Adventure continues - she takes the third set 8-6.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Sunday, 30 May 2004 16:01 (twenty-two years ago)

Yay Nastya and Venus, boo Henperson.

FranSchi up a break on Fatriati. Eurosport showing people on bikes. GRRRRRR.

The Lex (The Lex), Sunday, 30 May 2004 16:28 (twenty-two years ago)

The Greatest Tennis Player In The History Of WCW 5-4 up on J-Cap. Moya racing away to 4-1 against Robbo.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Sunday, 30 May 2004 16:44 (twenty-two years ago)

Whoopsie - 3-point swing to the Sunshine Stater and JC's one set up.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Sunday, 30 May 2004 16:54 (twenty-two years ago)

And TomRob's inspired by that - from 5-2 down he's suddenly leading 6-5...

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Sunday, 30 May 2004 17:08 (twenty-two years ago)

Then in the blink of an eyelid Capriati minces the Italian 6-1 in the second, and sets up a quarter-final with the Princess.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Sunday, 30 May 2004 17:17 (twenty-two years ago)

And in the same amount of time, Carlos has pulled it back to 6-6, accompanied by the sound of a thousand-odd overnight bags being checked.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Sunday, 30 May 2004 17:21 (twenty-two years ago)

Women's quarters - the only tricky match to call is Shari-Suari, seeing as how neither's dropped a set yet.

How It Will Pan Out - Mesmo-Shari is a titanic battle that sees La Fabuleuse squeak out the win in front of a euphoric Court Chatrier. She then gets straight-setted by A Williams Sister in the final.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Sunday, 30 May 2004 17:29 (twenty-two years ago)

Carlos has finally taken the first set 7-6.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Sunday, 30 May 2004 17:31 (twenty-two years ago)

All straight sets all the time so far today in the Hommes: Guga over Lici, Gaston over Dreeeev, Llout over Avier; Marat might have gone the same way but nicks the third on the breaker vs Bandy. Another five-setter by any chance? If Santoro is the Marathon Man, then Safin is Ranulph Fiennes. (But Nalbo's just taken first blood in the 4th).

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Monday, 31 May 2004 14:30 (twenty-two years ago)

Bandy nutmegs Saffy 6-3 in the 4th, so it's...

Kuerten (Brz, 28) v Nalbandian (Arg, 8)
Gaudio (Arg, r44) v Hewitt (Aus, 12)
Moya (Esp, 5) v Coria (Arg, 3)
Henman (GB, 9) v Chela (Arg, 22)

(What price an all-Argie last four? Has this ever happened before with any single nation in any Open era Grand Slam? Americans? Aussies?)

Also...

Suarez (Arg, 14) v Sharapova (Rus, 18)
Mauresmo (Fra, 3) v Dementieva (Rus, 9)
Myskina (Rus, 6) v V Williams (US, 4)
Capriati (US, 7) v S Williams (US, 2)

Fantasy Champs: Bandy and Mysky. It Would Make Sense: Amelie and G'mo. Enough Already: Moya and Serena. What Year Is This?: Guga and Jenria. The World Turned Upside Down: Timbot and Iris. Winning Ugly: Lleyt and Venus.

(These are all either books by Brad Gilbert or pubs along the Old Kent Road).

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Monday, 31 May 2004 16:52 (twenty-two years ago)

The very thought of a 3/4 Russian semi line-up gets me salivating, but I'd probably back an all-Russian quarter-final flop :(

Something needs to be done about Timid Timothy. On Sunday, we got to see all five torturous sets of his match... and NOT ONE POINT of any of the women's last 16 fest.

The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 31 May 2004 16:56 (twenty-two years ago)

Henners will certainly be found out when he meets a clay-courter actually ranked inside the top 70 - i.e. tomorrow - but fair play to the chap, he's excelled himself here: two of his three career-long recoveries from a two-set deficit have been this week, the last-16 non-grass Slam monkey is off his back and he played some sublime attacking tennis vs Llodra (though, as expected, I ran out of tape at 5-3 in the 4th).

If the next generation are comedy-names ahoy, then the veterans who provided gentler early evening entertainment at RG today were evocatively monickered in a different way. Jarryd, Sanchez, Pernfors, Gomez, Chesnokov - it all comes flooding back, doesn't it? Or maybe not, seeing as I seem to be the only person on this thread who'd be in the Legends Doubles myself... Boetsch/Pioline, for chrissakes? Did they fake their birth certificates? I/They can't be this old already...

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Monday, 31 May 2004 17:09 (twenty-two years ago)

I dimly remember the tail end of Chesnokov's career... and Boetsch and Pioline were around for quite a while after I started following tennis. The others remain ghostly rumours of tennis's past.

I want the semis to be: Guga, Gaudio, Guillermo and Iggy. Luckily, I think that's how it'll pan out. Masha, Elena and Anastasia would be ideal... I could care less which brainless American wins the last quarter.

The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 31 May 2004 17:17 (twenty-two years ago)

Brainless Americans, Lex? That's a bit harsh; we know Capri thinks asking for OutKast's "Bombs Over Baghdad" over the PA is showing 'support for our troops', but the Williamses seem pretty smart (maybe Serena's less outgoing demeanour could be interpreted as an absence of personality). I know little about the Ruskies but I suspect they're not all chess-playing literature mavens. A bit more character perhaps. I bow to your greater knowledge of their backgrounds - tell us some interesting stuff!

I dreamt last night I was playing ping-pong with Anders Jarryd in a hall of mirrors! Blame the grade-five Canadian cheddar in the pasta bake.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 07:54 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh, Venus has always come across as very intelligent in interviews... Serena, on the other hand... no. She's the queen of malapropisms, for one thing. She certainly hasn't grasped the basics of fashion (i.e. ideally, your hair, outfit and skin tone are not meant to clash violently with each other). I was half-referring to their tennis style, too - Serena's tactics are fine until she gets into a spot of bother, while I don't think Capriati even knows what 'strategy' is.

The great thing about the Red Army is that with so many of them, there's bound to be a chess-playing literature maven in there somewhere, and sure enough, Vera Zvonareva lists her favourite author as Mikhail Bulgakov, and Elena Dementieva relaxes by playing chess with her brother, a national champion. I would never have thought it, but Kournikova seems to be into her classic Russian fiction a lot... her favourite author is Tolstoy. I'm sure that this holds their tennis back, actually... they think too much, and over-analyse the situation, and are too aware of how big certain matches are... and then, if they're Vera Z, they cry. It's all incredibly frustrating.

Browsing the player profiles on the WTA website, though... I swear that Céline Dion and Sting are entirely dependent on pro athletes for their continued massive sales. Dear god, Justine, I expected better of you.

The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 08:19 (twenty-two years ago)

Rain delay. Boo. It's like they're preparing us for Wimbledon already.

The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 09:40 (twenty-two years ago)

(btw they are showing the henman match on BBC2, 1:25 pm start)

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 09:42 (twenty-two years ago)

Thanks for filling me in on the Eastern Bloc's brainy racketeers.

Chucking it down in Paris? Maybe they'll wheel out Johnny Hallyday for a singalong. Neglected to set the video as second week Brit interest wasn't built into the TV schedules. DG will be furious.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 09:45 (twenty-two years ago)

Henman won't be even close to starting by 1.25, not unless someone gets injured. I wonder if the Beeb will acknowledge that other players exist and show Venus v Myskina (which will probably be going on then)... or oh no, they're just going to replay old Henperson matches aren't they.

The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 09:52 (twenty-two years ago)

are the BBC allowed to show other matches?

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 10:05 (twenty-two years ago)

Within the context of interrupting normal programming to show a sporting event I guess they have to demonstrate wide appeal; us terrestrial-bound tennis nuts would love two hours of unplanned Garros footage whoever was playing, but this has to be Henmang to justify the cancellation of Diagnosis Murder or whatever was supposed to be on.

Anyway, they're off - both showcourts a game or two in, so you can expect Tim-Iggy 3:30-ish if there's no further rain.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 10:26 (twenty-two years ago)

blimey, will they move (whatever's on these days instead of) playschool for henbo?

CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 10:29 (twenty-two years ago)

Sharapova off to an absolute shocker: 0-4 v Suarez; Capriati up an early break on Serena.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 10:35 (twenty-two years ago)

The Fuchsia Hulk v JenFat is on. Thus far, it is dreadful. Neither can hit a ball into court at all. Serena just hit a sitter of a volley about three miles out.

The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 10:36 (twenty-two years ago)

You should be glad you've got the quality match, Lex - Sharapova's unforced error count is 15 after five games (all lost).

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 10:38 (twenty-two years ago)

Good lord. Fatriati leads 4-3 with a break, the quality has not been improved in the slightest, and now I need to go to a meeting.

The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 10:51 (twenty-two years ago)

And they're off again for rain, with Sharap facing yet another break point at 1-6 1-0 30/40.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 10:53 (twenty-two years ago)

Shortest interruption ever - back on court, Jennycat rips through Rena's serve again: 6-3 first set. Sharapova can't hold serve to save her life - 1-6 1-2.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 11:08 (twenty-two years ago)

This looks like their customary three-set setter: SW now a double-break up in set two; Ave Maria has steadied the ship - serving for a 4-2 lead in the second.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 11:15 (twenty-two years ago)

Suarez through with ridiculous ease: 6-1 6-3; Sharapova made 40 errors in an 86-point match. That's just shambolic.

Jen serving to stay in set two at 1-5.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 11:31 (twenty-two years ago)

Il pleut encore.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 11:32 (twenty-two years ago)

Back on again - Capri holds to force Serene to serve out the second set; Mysky an early break up on Vene.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 12:17 (twenty-two years ago)

Second set 6-2 to SW, on serve in decider; VW thwarts Nastya's efforts to open up a startling 5-0 lead, but still trails by a break.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 12:28 (twenty-two years ago)

It's all about that fabled 'mental strength' now - Cap up a break in the decider but you know Serena will attack her next service game like a woman possessed; same story for Nastya - serves at 5-3 in the opener vs Venus.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 12:38 (twenty-two years ago)

Which is exactly how it transpired. Cappers hands back her break with barely a whimper. Renes obviously rushing like hell to win the match before she really hurts herself.

With Renes serving at 36% and bearly able to transfer weight to her front foot, and Capri moving even less convincingly than her four-wheeled namesake, it may be a case of next to hold wins.

Fred Nerk (Fred Nerk), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 12:47 (twenty-two years ago)

Capriati breaks again and is serving for it at 5-3; Myskina secured the first set 6-3 but squandered an early break in the second - momentum could easily be lost there.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 12:52 (twenty-two years ago)

Williams nearly as lame as the commentary as Crapiatri (as doubtless she is known to Grauniad readers) breaks again and serves for the match.

Fred Nerk (Fred Nerk), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 12:53 (twenty-two years ago)

It's Jen 6-3 2-6 6-3!

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 12:56 (twenty-two years ago)

When is Little Timmy-Wimmy on?

Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 12:58 (twenty-two years ago)

Every now and then she falls apart...

So I turn on expecting to see tennis, BBC 2 give me Robert Mitchum. If it gets bumped for Flog It!, words will be yelled. By me. A lot.

Also - unless I'm entirely mistaken, does that make Kelly "Pao-Pao! Pao-Pao!" Marie the only player left in the thing that hasn't dropped a set yet?

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 13:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Drama on first match point, Williams shot called long, over-ruled very late, point declared a let. Jen saves Stef a probable coronary by winning the replayed point in much more straightforward fashion.

Fred Nerk (Fred Nerk), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 13:01 (twenty-two years ago)

Henman-Chela is third on Chatrier - after Mauresmo-Dementieva - so I'd guess 4:45-5pm BST.

IBM Scoreboard reported Jen's victory then revised it back to 40/30 - due to that late call business. Venus yet to break through in the second set vs Myskina (has she twigged that lil' sis is out yet?): 2-2, Nastya looking solid.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 13:03 (twenty-two years ago)

Myskina breaks to love on Lenglen to lead 4-3 - wowser!

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 13:10 (twenty-two years ago)

Mysky serves at 5-4. I'm supposed to be back at work. They won't miss me for a bit.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 13:16 (twenty-two years ago)

This live scoreboard's quite spiffy when you can get it to work.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 13:17 (twenty-two years ago)

WIlliams squanders break point, they're at deuce...

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 13:20 (twenty-two years ago)

Fucking hope they're not missing me anyway.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 13:22 (twenty-two years ago)

Venus blows three break points as the rain is coming down and all the other courts are closed...

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 13:23 (twenty-two years ago)

Advantage Nastya...

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 13:23 (twenty-two years ago)

SHE'S DONE IT! 6-3 6-4!!!

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 13:23 (twenty-two years ago)

Bloody hell, she's done it.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 13:23 (twenty-two years ago)

KwikKwiz - last time both Williams sisters went out of a tournament within the same hour? Terrific stuff. I fear we have aroused this thread's sleeping giant, however.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 13:25 (twenty-two years ago)

Cor. Pas des Williams! Arrgh why can't I watch any of this because I am at work? Still, I have you crazy people for updates.

Liz :x (Liz :x), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 13:25 (twenty-two years ago)

Still, I have you crazy people for updates.

Thanks, Liz. I have this strange compulsion to share my excitement at events I'm not even watching unfold and it's a bit too obvious to shout scores across the office (though I just did to Steve who was following on the too-slow BBC site), so I do it here. Nice to know someone gets something out of it.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 13:28 (twenty-two years ago)

AAAAHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YESSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!

I have shouted myself hoarse and awoken my latent hangover headache by cheering Nastya on so vociferously, and I don't have a care in the world right now - my favourite player just had the win of her career, beat a Williams sister and is in her first Slam semi. She nearly choked at the end... but in stark contrast to the Australian Open, she had enough courage this time round to seize her chance. God, this is good.

Now, crush JenFat.

The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 13:34 (twenty-two years ago)

I HATE YOU ALL OH MY POOR WILLIAMSES

VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 13:38 (twenty-two years ago)

He's awake.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 13:48 (twenty-two years ago)

Yet more rain with Amy and Ele locked at 4-4, first set. G'mo got an early break against Jackal but that's it for now. Anyone know the forecast? I doubt the Beeb will break into evening programming, even for Thimbo (was there anything on at all this afternoon?).

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 14:10 (twenty-two years ago)

I guess it was a 30 sec 'we'll get on live when tim is out there'.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 14:15 (twenty-two years ago)

I was almost relieved to see that in Serena's one-event Slam hiatus her dress sense has not improved one iota. That lilac monstrosity must have nearly had Capri calling for the sunglasses.

Watching Mauresmo play reminds me of watching Ian Botham bat. It may well all look like brute force and stupidity, but underneath all the primal violence there is a very sound technique which deviates from orthodoxy a lot less than you'd suspect.

Fred Nerk (Fred Nerk), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 14:20 (twenty-two years ago)

They're back on - who knows for how long - and Beefy is in trouble, a set and a break down to Extinction Level Event. Moya and Coria only appeared to get a couple of games in before suspension so perhaps the gals are about to be dragged off again too.

Off home to the possible peculiar delight of BBC2 evening tennis in the first week of June.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 15:15 (twenty-two years ago)

Goodness.

I have missed all this.

Are there any highlights on TV later?

Ane more importantly, why not?

the bluefox, Tuesday, 1 June 2004 15:30 (twenty-two years ago)

Because the BBC hate clay court tennis.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 15:32 (twenty-two years ago)

Good lord... the weirdest, most amazing women's quarter-final day ever climaxes in the shell-shocked exit of Mesmo at the hands of the Demented Diva. Elena played so well... smacking the cover off the ball on every single shot, volleying with authority, hitting the lines every time, even serving strongly... and Mauresmo had no reply.

Today is Justine Henin-Hardenne's birthday... I wonder if she got a set of voodoo dolls for her present? "If I can't have it, none of my closest rivals can either!"

Moya a set down but a break up against Wee Willie.

The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 16:04 (twenty-two years ago)

so will tim's match be delayed till tomorrow? anyone know?

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 16:25 (twenty-two years ago)

The Henperson is on now, apparently... and indeed is a set and a break up, which is somewhat shocking.

The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 16:42 (twenty-two years ago)

McEnroe is co-commentating with Castle (except not actually in the same country, as he's just given away), which is a joy... I've only just come in and the consensus seems to be that Chela just isn't attacking the Henman second serve enough and Timmy is stamping his serve/volley game all over him. Which obviously shouldn't be happening here, on this. TH serving for 5-3 in the 2nd.

Coria up two sets and a break.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 17:00 (twenty-two years ago)

so wish I was at home now.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 17:02 (twenty-two years ago)

Nipped into a bar: Henman match unexpectedly on Eurosport, but with no sound. Let alone McEnroe. Amazed to see TH go a set up, and now two. Extraordinary.

Seems unlikely that he'll win in straight sets? He doesn't usually do that, does he?

the bluefox, Tuesday, 1 June 2004 17:13 (twenty-two years ago)

Coria is there: 7-5 7-6 6-3 over Moya; Henman goes two sets up (6-2 6-4) over Chela. This is the best serve-volley clay court display I've seen since...Sampras, Rome 1994.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 17:14 (twenty-two years ago)

You mean... Henman's??

the bluefox, Tuesday, 1 June 2004 17:22 (twenty-two years ago)

Radio 5 are breaking away from it to talk about Liverpool's new boss.

the bluefox, Tuesday, 1 June 2004 17:22 (twenty-two years ago)

What a faux pas, same sponsor same shirts on both of them.

Ed (dali), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 17:24 (twenty-two years ago)

R5 just mentioned Andres Gomes!

the bluefox, Tuesday, 1 June 2004 17:25 (twenty-two years ago)

Gawd bless R5; Mac and Castle have just been discussing G'mo Vilas - JPMc playing the junior final in front of three people (not many less than are on Chatrier right now) in '78 as GV routed Gottfried.

Henman now up a break against his sartorial twin in set three. OK, the Sampras comment was maybe over the top, but this is classy stuff.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 17:30 (twenty-two years ago)

chela put a hat on which makes amateur watching a good deal easier

suzy (suzy), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 17:33 (twenty-two years ago)

I think the punctuation and train of thought have told you guys Ed forgot to log himself in.

suzy (suzy), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 17:34 (twenty-two years ago)

Henman to serve for the match?

the bluefox, Tuesday, 1 June 2004 17:41 (twenty-two years ago)

'A step up in class', say R5, belatedly echoing Mike as ever.

the bellefox, Tuesday, 1 June 2004 17:42 (twenty-two years ago)

I think I (or Mac or both of us) meant '77 above - JPMc a little too old to be playing with the boys in '78 (and Borg was champ that year).

Anyways, TH serves for it.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 17:42 (twenty-two years ago)

Perhaps this will lead to Henman fans staying away from Wimbledon in droves in the hope of replicating the effect. Fingers x'd.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 17:43 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh, I say.

Ace for match point.

the bellefox, Tuesday, 1 June 2004 17:45 (twenty-two years ago)

Smash takes him into the semis.

'Stunning'.

Who's this opponent he faces next? Any danger? (Probably.)

I am really surprised that TH won a match in straight sets - it's not his usual way, is it?

the bellefox, Tuesday, 1 June 2004 17:47 (twenty-two years ago)

It's Coria next which, in all other circumstances, would mean CERTAIN and SWIFT DEFEAT. But, crikey, who knows? Chela was pretty flat though, in a way G'mo Jr won't be.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 17:49 (twenty-two years ago)

Coria hasn't lost a set yet, and is coming off the back of a straight-sets win over Carlos Moya, who won the thing in 1998. The whole thing looks set to be heading towards a South American Derby between him and Kuerten. If Henman gets in the way of that, he'll most definitely have done something very special.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 17:58 (twenty-two years ago)

Is it just me or does McEnroe look like Dubya?

suzy (suzy), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 17:59 (twenty-two years ago)

I couldn't get past the fact that Chela and Henman were wearing identical outfits - shirts, shorts, everything. Well, maybe not everything.

If Guillermo doesn't abruptly end his run in straight sets, I will shout at him. Until then, though... I shall bask in All-Williams Crashout Day.

The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 18:09 (twenty-two years ago)

I am very disappointed. When I switched on to watch The Good Life, there was some ruddy tennis match going on. I was hoping Mrs Berry would watch it and MJ would report back. No, honestly, I was.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 19:32 (twenty-two years ago)

I imagine she already knows The Good Life but maybe not - I'll ask her after CSI is over. She's a bit too fond of As Time Goes By and, worse, Keeping Up Appearances for my liking. Mr Berry was NOT impressed with the Tate Modern (contents thereof).

Suzy, I think you're flying a lone flag for the Dubenroe. Or maybe we just don't want to consider it. Turns out they were all in a studio in London - hence the panic when the satellite went down at break point. Mac will commentate 'standing on his head' if Henman downs Coria. He's safe, I think.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 19:50 (twenty-two years ago)

Ah, that explains their 'Tim Henman Is The Only Tennis Player In The World Ever' approach to covering the tennis, and why they can wipe out entire afternoons for the bloody Davis Cup against Luxembourg and completely ignore the women's tournament. They're showing the final Sunday afternoon and are probably right this minute sacrificing anything to any god they can think so Capriati makes it and they can have at least one person people might have heard of in there...

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 19:56 (twenty-two years ago)

Michael, Ed totally agrees with me - which is never a given.

I wouldn't have even given a toss about the tennis this year until Wimbledon but for yr. threads. Nice work.

suzy (suzy), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 19:57 (twenty-two years ago)

I'd say John McEnroe is one part dubya, one part tracer hand and one part ageing porn star.

Ed (dali), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 20:12 (twenty-two years ago)

Much appreciated, Suzy - it's all about gently cajoling folks into caring about the brick dust, the asphalt and the Rebound Ace at least 1/15th as much as they go for the green, green grass of home. The SW19 thread takes care of itself; the others need constant attention. Lex and Swygart have been my Cochet and Borotra. I am Rene Lacoste. The position of Jacques Brugnon remains vacant and may be decided by the casting of lots.

But let's not get ahead of ourselves, long way to go, etc...

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 20:14 (twenty-two years ago)

The nonseed is having the way of it at the mo' - the Architecto leading McMillianand 5-2 in the first, looking to up the Argie QF record to 2-1.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 2 June 2004 09:47 (twenty-two years ago)

Hewitt has just been broken in the first set 4-2 down

Ed (dali), Wednesday, 2 June 2004 09:48 (twenty-two years ago)

Go Go Gaudio!

The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 2 June 2004 09:54 (twenty-two years ago)

(Er, Ed - I think you've got a bit of a lag on your info. This was happening with William's updates t'other day. Personally, I'm all for it - element of ambiguity, etc).

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 2 June 2004 09:57 (twenty-two years ago)

As an experiment perhaps we should all post the exact score as we see at precisely 12 noon BST...

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 2 June 2004 09:58 (twenty-two years ago)

12:00 BST: Hewitt serving 3-6 0-0 40/40 (first deuce).

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 2 June 2004 10:00 (twenty-two years ago)

I think Mr Berry has a point, about Tate Modern.

And I was there, only the other day!

the bellefox, Wednesday, 2 June 2004 10:07 (twenty-two years ago)

Bob's getting the runaround (NOW!) from Gaston - 6-3 6-2 3-0 (dbl-break). I'm relying on Bandy-Guga providing the drama at this stage.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 2 June 2004 10:47 (twenty-two years ago)

It's a rout for the Llout - winning just seven games, send packing to Aorangi in 116mins. I don't think I've ever seen Maurice Chevalier play, but I may get a shot now.

Next up, it's tke KuerNal, the rumpf, the gist.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 2 June 2004 11:12 (twenty-two years ago)

Meanwhile, during this intermission...Hlasek and McEnroe (who must have caught the Eurostar last night) are a set up in the M-M-My Generation Doubles vs Nystrom/Wilander. Good old Joakim - pulping Becker at Flushing Meadow in '85 and messing up the TV schedules (CBS had cleared the decks for the expected Boris-Superbrat showdown); Hlasek, an Aryan all-courter, remembered in the UK for an ebb'n'flow epic vs one of the Svenssons at Wembley; Mats - the man who got closer to doing a Laver than anyone and then decided #1 was a tag he shouldn't distance himself from as quickly as possible.

(Sorry about the typo in the last post; I was spilling food down myself at the time).

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 2 June 2004 11:24 (twenty-two years ago)

he should distance himself from

Jeez, I've finished my lunch now an' all.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 2 June 2004 11:27 (twenty-two years ago)

Early stages of Bandemonium vs Final Kuerten - the boy from Brazil is having trouble with his serve and appear to be rushing the next without much reward - Dave has a point for a double break...and takes it.

Not good - a swift start for dB and it could be over in three.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 2 June 2004 12:07 (twenty-two years ago)

Nalbuphine feels the pain as Gusty blows through the second set: all square, 6-2 3-6.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 2 June 2004 12:54 (twenty-two years ago)

I want Mr Nalbandian to win, please.

Markelby (Mark C), Wednesday, 2 June 2004 13:13 (twenty-two years ago)

rushing the net above

I'm a typo fiend today. Guga blasts back from 1-4 in the 3rd to level.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 2 June 2004 13:23 (twenty-two years ago)

So, having finished job I'm at home again, with non-functioning IBM scoreboard. Relying on refreshing the Roland Garros front page. Teensy bit frustrating.

Coria really is looking a strong favourite here - Guga's legs are not meant to be in particularly great shape at the moment, and though Nal's been having a cracking tournament, he's definitely lacking pedigree in these environs (previous best - 3rd round 2 years ago) - same goes for Henners. Gaudy's a fair ol' dark horse, mind...

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Wednesday, 2 June 2004 13:30 (twenty-two years ago)

Bandy snatches the 3rd - 6-4. Is Kuerten's tournament drawing to a close? Will he fade in the afternoon sun? Will Bandy take him to the (dry) cleaners?

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 2 June 2004 13:34 (twenty-two years ago)

Apparently, the turning point of that tenth game was an umpire overrule against Tavo - he's responded by breaking St Alban at the start of the 4th.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 2 June 2004 13:39 (twenty-two years ago)

Guga has a set point at 5-3 and two more at 5-4 but can't close it out - Bandy breaks back and we're five-all in the 5th. The tension - you could braid it and sell it to a Dutch schoolgirl.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 2 June 2004 14:18 (twenty-two years ago)

In the 4th! Jesus, I'm losing it. We're in the 4th set, people.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 2 June 2004 14:19 (twenty-two years ago)

you could braid it and sell it to a Dutch schoolgirl

Are you channeling Sid Waddell Mike?

Dave B (daveb), Wednesday, 2 June 2004 14:22 (twenty-two years ago)

Chesterton breaks and will again serve for two sets all. I bet this is smashing to watch.

(DB - I think I must be, I don't know where that came from).

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 2 June 2004 14:24 (twenty-two years ago)

Bandeon breaks again and we're into a tie-breaker. The atmos is crackling like bacon on a pylon.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 2 June 2004 14:29 (twenty-two years ago)

The three-hour mark is passed and Gugz takes first blood - up 3-2 with two serves to come...

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 2 June 2004 14:32 (twenty-two years ago)

Bandy recovers from 2-5 to 5-5 but faces a fourth set point at 5-6...and saves it! They're changing ends...

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 2 June 2004 14:36 (twenty-two years ago)

It's Bandy: 8-6 in the breaker; 6-2 3-6 6-4 7-6.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 2 June 2004 14:38 (twenty-two years ago)

That's it, kids...

Suarez-Dementieva and Capriati-Myskina tomorrow; Gaudio-Nalbandian and Coria-Henman Friday.

I'm off home to have Chinese food from the blander end of the menu with the folks.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 2 June 2004 14:43 (twenty-two years ago)

Bandy and Demented to win is my (bold?) prediction

zebedee (zebedee), Wednesday, 2 June 2004 15:14 (twenty-two years ago)

Ooh... I'm going Argentinian double, myself, Suarez & Coria. Coria cos, out of those remaining, he's the one with the serious clay-court pedigree. Gaudio has been banded about as a clay-court specialist of sorts, but he's never been beyond the 4th round before here - then again, it's a bit better than he's done at any of the other majors. Nal and Hen are starting to hit form very hard indeed, but Coria's not looked weak at any juncture of the tournament.

And Suarez cos... well, I dunno. Consistency, I guess, which hasn't exactly been the trademark of any of the others.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Wednesday, 2 June 2004 15:43 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm sticking with my fantasy champs of :due north: and :amplitude modulation: - they probably weren't even favourite to come through their quarterfinals but now they have - pah! - anything can happen.

I'm off work on Friday - yay! I'm picking my parents up from Victoria Coach Station at 2:30 - boo! Aging Panasonic VCR with the clunking transport - don't fail me now.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 2 June 2004 17:18 (twenty-two years ago)

I didn't see any of today's play - a pity, I'd have liked to see the Bandy-Curtain face-off, but when people are paying for good lunch one cannot refuse, especially not if they are fit. I will assuredly not be moving from the sofa for the duration of either semi day - I'm going with finals between Bandy and Coria, and the Demented Diva and... aargh... I just can't bring myself to predict against Nastya, even though Fat's experience has to count for something. Put it this way: the knowledge in the back of my mind that Fat will probably win has been safely blocked out by an insane surge of hope... rather, in fact, like my comment halfway upthread: As for Venus, I retain a possibly misguided hope that whichever of my Russinas meets her in the QF can beat her... humour me.

Winners? Coria (who hasn't stopped looking like the favourite for months now) and the Diva, as long as she keeps her head.

The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 2 June 2004 18:38 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh! and we mustn't forget the noble art of doubles. In the women's semis, top seeds Vivi Ruano Pascual and Paolita take on - here's a blast from the past - Sandrine Test Tube and Veni Vidi Vinci; the Ancient Wonder and Mondo Raymondo play YET MORE RUSSIANS! - in this case Svetlana K and Elena L.

In the men's, the Bryan twins play Llods and Fab Fabrice (he isn't dead after all!); All Belgium All The Time still gets something of a say in this year's tournament as Malisse and Rochus (the Olivier version) go up against Bhupathi and Mirnyi.

The mixed doubles semis are fascinating for the presence of Tatiana Golovin and Richard Gasquet - French teenage prodigies both, they're sailing regally through the draw with all the verve of two kids who know they'll be on top of the mountain sooner rather than later. Bless. The Bovine One and Zimonjic, however, won the Australian mixed title and are thus on top of this particular mountain right now, and they're next for the super-kids. In the other semi, the Black siblings prove conclusively that their parents' naming skills were erratic at best - one is prettily named Cara, the other is, er, Wayne. And they play Woodbridge and - my gosh - Daniela Hantuchova.

The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 2 June 2004 18:47 (twenty-two years ago)

Suarez will not beat Capriati in this decade, no matter how on she is, and particularly not at a Grand Slam final. Whoever wins Cap/Mysk is going to win the whole shebang.

I fully expect Coria to dismantle Henman like a Southerner on a slab of ribs.

VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 2 June 2004 19:17 (twenty-two years ago)

I've remembered why I backed Suarez - thinking about how the BBC will try to build up a final between her and Myskina does make me giggle everso.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Wednesday, 2 June 2004 21:02 (twenty-two years ago)

Suárez and Myskina are so underrated - in a sane world, it should be no trouble at all to hype up a match between the world no 5 and the best doubles player in the world... but no, most people appear to believe that the only female players who matter are the Williams sisters, and maybe the Belgians.

The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 2 June 2004 21:13 (twenty-two years ago)

And as such, Myskina's whole build-up would consist of the fact that she beat Venus Williams and Jennifer Capriati. Christ knows what they'd say about Suarez. Perhaps Andrew Castle could divert it onto how attractive he finds Maria Sharapova.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Wednesday, 2 June 2004 21:20 (twenty-two years ago)

I think Myskina and Suárez also suffer in that their strengths aren't as immediately apparent on TV as those of the Williamses, the Belgians, Sharapova, or even Dementieva and Capriati. For people who are used to the notion that good tennis = winners blasted from the baseline, it's probably hard to see the nuances of Suárez and Myskina's games... Suárez's variety, Myskina's tactics etc.

With Myskina, they would mention how 'exotic-looking' she is and mention her naked GQ shoot, and then use her as an excuse to talk about all the Russians, especially the blonde, nubile ones. With Suárez, they would employ the word 'veteran', possibly in conjunction with the word 'canny', and mention her Wimbledon doubles title.

The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 2 June 2004 21:29 (twenty-two years ago)

(I saw Andrew Castle waiting for a taxi last week. He is very tall and somewhat meerkat-esque in posture)

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Wednesday, 2 June 2004 21:31 (twenty-two years ago)

Castle and fellow mic-hugger Chris Bailey belong to a pre-Henman generation of Brits whose main claim to fame was almost, but not quite, beating someone really good at Wimbledon. Formerly a badge of honour, I expect they're a bit embarrassed of being reminded of their minor exploits now.

Castle took Mats Wilander to five sets in '86 (I remember Barry Davies or someone saying at 4-4 in the first set that he mustn't let the magnitude of what he was doing go to his head; there was one 7-0 tie-breaker in that match where Castle looked like a contender; he lost the fifth set to love). Bailey hit the backhand pass of his life to move to match point on Centre vs Ivanisevic in '93 - Goran missed a first serve, flicked the tape with his second, then finally aced down the middle; he won 9-7 in the 5th.

Lex: top doubles reportage! I can't back against Max and Mehesh in the men's or those discounted boozy Russians in the women's; can we get the phrase "blowing a Gasquet" out of the way now in the mixed?

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Thursday, 3 June 2004 09:35 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah... the thought of an all-Russian sweep makes me very excited, but very nervous. 15 minutes to go until the first semi starts, and I am pacing around the house and seriously considering taking up smoking. My housemate has just asked if I'm OK. NO I'M NOT!

The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 3 June 2004 10:48 (twenty-two years ago)

Crackling start for Iris - up 4-0 in the blink of an eye; is there any heart left in Francisco?

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Thursday, 3 June 2004 11:34 (twenty-two years ago)

5-0. was watching this while having lunch, dementieva is a class apart right now.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Thursday, 3 June 2004 11:39 (twenty-two years ago)

And Suarez drops her first set of the tournament - unfortunately it's by six games to zilch. Dr Elena Russell is not mucking about - no soft-focus space-virus dawdling about for her.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Thursday, 3 June 2004 11:44 (twenty-two years ago)

"soft-focus space-virus dawdling"? Is that not a track on the new Stereolab lp?

Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Thursday, 3 June 2004 11:45 (twenty-two years ago)

This'd be the point where I realise that apart from against a distinctly rubbish Shap, Suarez hasn't actually gone in to any match as anything less than an overwhelming favourite, then.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 3 June 2004 11:46 (twenty-two years ago)

Is that not a track on the new Stereolab lp?

It's a description of the whole B-side, Jerry.

WBS: Yeah, the 'not dropped a set' thing not such a clear pointer to fizzy-fine form in the women's event. PS breaks at the start of set two though!

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Thursday, 3 June 2004 11:51 (twenty-two years ago)

This seems to be one of those error-heavy sprayfests - Demento has just had the first held service game of the second set (4-3), meaning that Suarez hasn't held serve AT ALL in the match. If she drops it here she's gone, I think.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Thursday, 3 June 2004 12:17 (twenty-two years ago)

Well, Paola held, broke and then was broken again - she trails 0-6 5-5. That's 11 breaks of serve in 16 games. I doubt even Chris Evert and Mimi Jausovec ever traded breaks like this on red clay. If they get to 6-6, the umpire tosses a coin as per the Stop Taking The Piss section of the WTA rulebook.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Thursday, 3 June 2004 12:31 (twenty-two years ago)

Mentis melts 'Ola - 6-0 7-5; Lex can relax for ten minutes before the sterner test of Jenti.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Thursday, 3 June 2004 12:39 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh my. I don't think my nerves can take much more of this, but they'll have to. Elena's serve reverted to its early-week suckiness in the second set, and it very nearly got awful for her... but phew. Calm. Deep breaths. Exhale.

The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 3 June 2004 12:41 (twenty-two years ago)

And as bad as Dementor's serve got, Paolita only held serve ONCE in the entire match. That second set - the tennis was bad, but the tension was worse.

The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 3 June 2004 12:42 (twenty-two years ago)

I assume both were nervous, by the way... but Dementieva had to stop between first and second serves to do BREATHING EXERCISES because she couldn't stop shaking. It worked, but oh my christ I nearly had to do them as well.

The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 3 June 2004 12:44 (twenty-two years ago)

Great start for Anastasia - breaks for two-love. All the stats for the Capri serve so far are 'X'; it must be subatomic.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Thursday, 3 June 2004 13:03 (twenty-two years ago)

Jandy Capp toughs out a game from three break points down: it's 3-1 to Miss Skinny.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Thursday, 3 June 2004 13:14 (twenty-two years ago)

Capri retrieves that early break but suffers two more as the tanks roll in - Mysk leads 6-2 1-0.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Thursday, 3 June 2004 13:32 (twenty-two years ago)

Capriati suffers the only break of set two: she serves to stay in at 2-5.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Thursday, 3 June 2004 13:56 (twenty-two years ago)

Wow, 6-2 6-2 in 61 minutes. Take that, Free World.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Thursday, 3 June 2004 13:57 (twenty-two years ago)

So is this gonna be the first time a russian woman wins a grand slam?

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Thursday, 3 June 2004 14:03 (twenty-two years ago)

YES! YES! YES! YES!

ALL-RUSSIAN FINAL! ALL-RUSSIAN FINAL! ALL-RUSSIAN FINAL!

I am somewhat incoherent/delirious with joy right now.

Nastya was SO FUCKING GOOD in those last couple of games.

The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 3 June 2004 14:04 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh my god, Nastya will be the new world no 3, win or lose, on Monday.

*dies*

The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 3 June 2004 14:08 (twenty-two years ago)

Fievel Myskowitz has to be favourite now - 8 games conceded in the past two matches, against Venus and Craprak? Best believe somebody's a bit up for this...

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 3 June 2004 14:08 (twenty-two years ago)

Lex, you rock :)

happy for you petal :)

CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Thursday, 3 June 2004 14:12 (twenty-two years ago)

Thanks :)

This is made a hell of a lot sweeter by the innumerable chokes, disappointments, failures to bring it against the very top players, psycho tantrums, that the Russians have given me in the past... and now this. Best. Slam. Ever.

The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 3 June 2004 14:14 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh my god... apparently in this interview from December, Nastya said that her dream was to play Elena Dementieva in the Roland Garros final.

Best tactician on tour, and best psychic powers too.

The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 3 June 2004 14:16 (twenty-two years ago)

Boris Yeltsin is most assuredly pissed off his face already.

The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 3 June 2004 14:18 (twenty-two years ago)

"as the tanks roll in"

the junefox, Thursday, 3 June 2004 15:24 (twenty-two years ago)

"I'm picking my parents up from Victoria Coach Station at 2:30 - boo!"

What's wrong with Victoria Coach Station?

The coffee?

the bellefox, Thursday, 3 June 2004 15:25 (twenty-two years ago)

"clunking transport - don't fail me now."

That's no way to talk about the National Express fleet.

the junefox, Thursday, 3 June 2004 15:26 (twenty-two years ago)

Well, possibly that a list of its positive attributes starts with "It isn't Digbeth Coach Station."

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 3 June 2004 15:58 (twenty-two years ago)

I've started compiling the Glossary. Got to Round 3 thus far. It burrrrrns.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 3 June 2004 17:06 (twenty-two years ago)

Dear God, I've done it, somehow. Not much left now - I'll put the whole thing up Sunday Nite.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 3 June 2004 20:55 (twenty-two years ago)

Just so's you know, Argentine Derby underway, Argentinos Juniors 2-1 up on Nalby's Old Boys in the first.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 4 June 2004 10:29 (twenty-two years ago)

Nal's just levelled, presumably this is all going to serve thus far.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 4 June 2004 10:31 (twenty-two years ago)

The Incroyable Henk on second today so I'm pretty much assured of missing the whole thing (if I'm not ferrying [literally, I've hired the Woodchurch and have drilled discarded rollerskates to the underside] one set of parents from the coach station, I'll be shepherding [literally - I got the knobbly stick off eBay and Jess, a Shetland puppy, we found in a snowdrift] the other set into a restaurant).

No breaks between 'ian Gillan and Ronnie James 'dio thus far.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Friday, 4 June 2004 10:39 (twenty-two years ago)

Aargh - I'm about to set the VCR, but which channel? Are they going to squash the tennis together with the horse racing on BBC2 or pull a raft of daytime slop off BBC1?

I don't consider myself a Gaudiophile, but - cripes - first set to Fernandez 6-3!

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Friday, 4 June 2004 10:58 (twenty-two years ago)

you're prob gone already but did you should check teletext if you can.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Friday, 4 June 2004 11:06 (twenty-two years ago)

(No tennis mentioned on either analogue or digital text - oh, well, I've plumped for BBC1. See y'all later.)

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Friday, 4 June 2004 11:08 (twenty-two years ago)

Some years ago, 1995 perhaps, an over-excited commentator said Tim Henman would be a grand slam winner. I was not overly impressed with Tim at the time and declared to my sister: "Hah. If Henman ever wins a grand slam, I'll eat the ottoman". The ottoman in question is an old, very past it foam footstool that would taste very bad.

Am I going to have to eat foam? Surely he won't beat Coria... reassure me now...

edward o (edwardo), Friday, 4 June 2004 11:22 (twenty-two years ago)

won't be long before gaudio goes through. last I heard 2 sets up with a break in the third.

Tim should lose, but I'm hoping you eat the ottoman on sunday night edward.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Friday, 4 June 2004 12:36 (twenty-two years ago)

3 breaks in the third

Ed (dali), Friday, 4 June 2004 12:41 (twenty-two years ago)

in fact 6-0 in the third:

Result: Nalbandian 3-6 6-7 (5/7) 0-6 Gaudio

Ed (dali), Friday, 4 June 2004 12:42 (twenty-two years ago)

"eat the ottoman" could be the next ILX meme!

Result: Nalbandian loses 3-6 6-7 (5/7) 0-6 to Gaudio

(xp)

zebedee (zebedee), Friday, 4 June 2004 12:44 (twenty-two years ago)

Whether Gaudio can keep up the level of intensity for another match is debatable, but he's been hugely impressive.. occasionally astonishing. And should protect me from choking on ancient furnishings should Tim beat Guillermo "The Pimp" Coria.

edward o (edwardo), Friday, 4 June 2004 12:46 (twenty-two years ago)

some updates. tim on court yet?

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Friday, 4 June 2004 13:41 (twenty-two years ago)

Not only is he on court, but he ain't doing half bad.

marianna, Friday, 4 June 2004 13:42 (twenty-two years ago)

Henman won the first set, 6-3. Ugh. I hope I'm allowed sauce.

edward o (edwardo), Friday, 4 June 2004 13:45 (twenty-two years ago)

I have an hour's grace to watch some of this; not much in it - Henman chip'n'charged his way to two breaks of three in the opener and has just held well for 1-1 in the second.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Friday, 4 June 2004 13:50 (twenty-two years ago)

henman breaks serve in the second set to go 2-1 up.

Ed (dali), Friday, 4 June 2004 14:00 (twenty-two years ago)

:-o

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Friday, 4 June 2004 14:07 (twenty-two years ago)

5 live apear to have lost the rights to net stream the commentary, mid match. They seemed to have no problems up to 30 seconds ago.

Ed (dali), Friday, 4 June 2004 14:11 (twenty-two years ago)

http://sport.guardian.co.uk/tennis/story/0,10069,1231667,00.html

This is quite entertaining. Mentions of Robert Smith and Clive Allen in the first set alone!

Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Friday, 4 June 2004 14:13 (twenty-two years ago)

ok it appears that the bbc fdidin't have the rights to the first furlongh of the oaks.

Ed (dali), Friday, 4 June 2004 14:15 (twenty-two years ago)

Coria, beginning to lock onto Henman's approaches, breaks back: it's 4-4.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Friday, 4 June 2004 14:17 (twenty-two years ago)

oh fucking crap he lost the second.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Friday, 4 June 2004 14:28 (twenty-two years ago)

Henman's Sampras-style slamp-dunk when serving at 4-3 might be his last hurrah - Coria hits his best returns of the match, Henman fluffs a makeable volley at 15/0 and then is robbed of an ace at 15/40 by a let-cord overrule from the chair (no, they don't have sensors on the net in Paris) - it's one set all.

TH has been mostly magnificent though.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Friday, 4 June 2004 14:29 (twenty-two years ago)

henman is broken again after being 40-15 up. i wish i hadn't turned the fucking commnetary on.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Friday, 4 June 2004 14:38 (twenty-two years ago)

henman broken in the third set loosing 6 games in a row now 2-0 down in the third set.

Ed (dali), Friday, 4 June 2004 14:38 (twenty-two years ago)

Seven straight games for Coria: 3-6 6-4 3-0. Henman's still attacking but Coria's now nearly error-free off the ground and Timbo's continually having to push for that low %-age response. Over in four, I think.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Friday, 4 June 2004 14:42 (twenty-two years ago)

:-(

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Friday, 4 June 2004 14:43 (twenty-two years ago)

poor old timbo, oh well there's always SW19...

(not that it's actually over yet, but, well...)

CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Friday, 4 June 2004 14:48 (twenty-two years ago)

:....(

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Friday, 4 June 2004 14:50 (twenty-two years ago)

COME. ON. HENMAN.

cozen (Cozen), Friday, 4 June 2004 14:50 (twenty-two years ago)

TH's problem is he's missing with his first serve by an inch EVERY TIME now - Coria is pouncing on the hesistant second and running everything else down like he's been overclocked. 4-0: eight in a row.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Friday, 4 June 2004 14:50 (twenty-two years ago)

5-0

Ed (dali), Friday, 4 June 2004 14:51 (twenty-two years ago)

Henman has to sort that first serve out NOW or he won't win another game in this match. It happens to the greats - Lendl up 5-3 in the 3rd vs Connors, '83 US Open final, didn't win another game; McEnroe up 4-2 in the 3rd vs Wilander, '83 French Open QF, didn't win another game.

3-6 6-4 6-0 to Coria. And that's goodnight from me.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Friday, 4 June 2004 14:57 (twenty-two years ago)

Henman's gone now. Well, they're still playing, but the poor boy just cannot do a single thing right - it is all a matter of inches, yes, but they're all going wrong - just under the net cord, just long, just wide. Plus which, Coria is like a rat up a drainpipe out there - Henman just can't find the answers. I've left it at 3-0 Coria in the fourth, it's a bit too depressing to watch anymore.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 4 June 2004 15:12 (twenty-two years ago)

NB - not depressing cos it's Henman, but depressing cos he really was superb for that first set and a half, and he just looks shattered now.

Still, he's stopped the rot for a bit, holding serve to get back to 3-1.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 4 June 2004 15:17 (twenty-two years ago)

Hold up. He's broken back to 3-2.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 4 June 2004 15:18 (twenty-two years ago)

And it's suddenly 3-3. I think I might just be going back to the telly.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 4 June 2004 15:23 (twenty-two years ago)

come on you bastard!

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Friday, 4 June 2004 15:27 (twenty-two years ago)

Holy shit, Henman's turning those tables like a big table-turning person - from 3-0 down he takes 4 on the trot, second straight break point, 4-3 up. Swygart, upstairs, NOW.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 4 June 2004 15:28 (twenty-two years ago)

5 fucking games!!!

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Friday, 4 June 2004 15:32 (twenty-two years ago)

this is fucking brilliant and we're about to get in the car and drive up north dammit.

chris (chris), Friday, 4 June 2004 15:35 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm so goddamned nervous. I shouldn't watch Henman play. I can't see him being able to close out a 5th-set for a Grand Slam final though.

cozen (Cozen), Friday, 4 June 2004 15:39 (twenty-two years ago)

I demand a fifth set!!!

5-5 dammit.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Friday, 4 June 2004 15:42 (twenty-two years ago)

Someone anaesthetise me.

cozen (Cozen), Friday, 4 June 2004 15:47 (twenty-two years ago)

Well done Tim.

cozen (Cozen), Friday, 4 June 2004 15:50 (twenty-two years ago)

bah he should've taken it to 5.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Friday, 4 June 2004 15:53 (twenty-two years ago)

Ah man, that was nerve-wracking as anything. Henman was really very good, but Coria was just a bit too good when he needed to be - too quick, a touch too at home. Henman did look a little tired at time, the niggles conspiring against him to take him out. Still, he's got to be up for Wimbledon now. This may have heightened people's expectations, though, which may not be such a good thing.

So, we're left with Gaslamp and Corollary. I'm rooting for Gaudio cos Coria looks like a boy I used to go to school with who was a cunt.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 4 June 2004 16:00 (twenty-two years ago)

That match was too damn close for comfort... when did Timbo suddenly turn into such a good player? I'm glad Coria won though, cos I've been pulling for him since the start of the tournament... and our sofa was an odd place indeed, with one housemate joining me in the pro-Coria camp and another flying the patriotic flag.

The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 4 June 2004 19:14 (twenty-two years ago)

I thought Henman was always a good player?

cozen (Cozen), Friday, 4 June 2004 19:20 (twenty-two years ago)

Ridiculous stuff - first a dreamworld in which Tim 'LAWN Tennis' Henman was a set and 4-2 up on red clay against the man who has global syndication rights on the surface with only Gaston Bleedin' Gaudio waiting in the final, then 13 straight Corian games, 5 straight Henmanian games and finally 4 consec Argie heartbreakers.

And how strangely heartening and perhaps even touching it is to see a French crowd pulling for the guy whereas our own Union Jack bowler-sporting ninnies make me reach for my combined sick-bucket-revolver.

I foresee a quick exit at Queens followed by Britcentric drama in SW19 which will make the previous years 'Henmania' seem like the forty-second lull in Heartbeat which immediately follows the first ad break.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Friday, 4 June 2004 20:55 (twenty-two years ago)

cozen OTM; consistently reaching the 4th round/semis of slams = you are a good player!

VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 4 June 2004 21:01 (twenty-two years ago)

"such" a good player. As in, the kind of player who gets PAST the 4th round of non-Wimbledon Slams... and who plays so outstandingly against the heavy favourite for RG. If a couple of key points in the second set had gone Henman's way, he could be in the final... which is just an incredible thought.

The super-kids won the mixed doubles! Bless them.

http://www.freewebs.com/golovin/6.JPG

The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 4 June 2004 21:33 (twenty-two years ago)

They are the John McEnroe/Mary Carillo de nos jours!

Tomorrow: Myskina in two tight sets, one a breaker. Sunday: Coria in three, maybe four if GG Allin gets off to a flyer.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Friday, 4 June 2004 21:54 (twenty-two years ago)

There are loads of pictures of Richard and Tatiana hugging and kissing on the Getty site. I think they want to imply that they fancy each other, because they are both drop-dead gorgeous. If there ever comes a day when those two sit atop the thrones of tennis... the classic glam quotient will rocket.

Coria in four, and Nastya in straights. If that happens, I'll actually get the people I wanted to win at the start of the tournament actually winning it, which would be novel and very exciting.

The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 4 June 2004 22:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Golovin looks very like someone but I've forgotten who.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 4 June 2004 22:10 (twenty-two years ago)

Andrea Temesvari?

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Saturday, 5 June 2004 06:52 (twenty-two years ago)

And they're on. Mosquito had a point for 4-1, but a freak high defensive shot from Elena bounced on the net causing Nastya to miss it and it took her what seemed like 50 deuces but was probably only six to finally win. She's looking The Good, some tentativeness aside.

edward o (edwardo), Saturday, 5 June 2004 12:35 (twenty-two years ago)

Myskina wins 6-1, 6-2 - proof you don't need to have a Williams sister present for a final to be disappointingly poor. Elena never really got started - she barely got any of her serves in (remembering that her first serve is not exactly a weapon as much as it is a frequently crushing liability) and made a slew of errors - and every time she stepped up her game for a moment or two, Myskina raised hers to suit. Ah well, she does look like a No.3 player now, I've never been impressed with her in the past, but she's got the shots to match the brain now.

edward o (edwardo), Saturday, 5 June 2004 13:15 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah, shame abt that but great to see these russians (get to see very little tennis). The women's game was the williams sister show for a year or two but the belginas and russians have eroded that. The women's game is looking good.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Saturday, 5 June 2004 13:22 (twenty-two years ago)

My favourite player is a Grand Slam champion! I don't think she quite realised what she'd accomplished even after the trophy ceremony, and Dementieva was really crippled by the nerves/serves fatal combination... but, exquisite strategy and variety from Nastya again. It was definitely more Historic Event than Great Tennis Match... but I'm still happy.

The Lex (The Lex), Saturday, 5 June 2004 13:30 (twenty-two years ago)

I think I'll put myself down as a Nastya fan too - I've been watching Dementieva for a few years and she keeps letting me down! Myskina was clinical in the quarters and the semis, and was damn good to watch. Do people other than moronic TV commentators use that word in this context - clinical? Don't much like her chances at Wimbledon, but if Sanchez-Vicario could win a US Open, can't see why not Myskina. And that a) someone who most people have never heard of has won the thing, and b) the fact that people CAN'T say "oh it was a weak field/she had an easy draw" are cause for mammoth amounts of glee.

Tomorrow: to be contrary: Gaudio in 4.

edward o (edwardo), Saturday, 5 June 2004 13:49 (twenty-two years ago)

Menko can certainly speak French very well, but her tennis was really very poor indeed. Right from her first serve, it just seemed like there wasn't any chance she'd win this thing. She was snatching at shots, trying too hard to catch Myskina out, which she hardly ever did and usually wound up wearing herself out in the long rallies.

Myskina was very good with her returns, and defensively she had it locked down. Her serve wasn't too great, mind, but she was hardly under any pressure so it didn't matter. She's a very good and deserving champion, though - the final might have been easy, but on the way she faced off against people that it would have been reckoned could have taken the title or at least beaten her, and took them out with room to spare. When called upon to dig in, like with Venus' three break points or Kuznetsova's match point, she did. They cracked, she didn't, she wins.

TV-wise, Castle was a surprisingly bearable anchor. Both girls coped very well with getting hassled by Gene Wilder.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Saturday, 5 June 2004 13:54 (twenty-two years ago)

It was also weird how emo-kid Lady Miss Kina looked when she put her black hoodie thing back on afterwards.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Saturday, 5 June 2004 13:55 (twenty-two years ago)

The look that says "The greatest moment of my life, and I get to share it with France's leading handball player. Hmm."

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Saturday, 5 June 2004 15:50 (twenty-two years ago)

Well, I'm delighted with the result - I'll watch the tape tomorrow morning (today was spent navigating the tidal Thames). One of the photos on the BBC slideshow is entitled myskteeth, which is a little unkind. She's like a sexy alien. I just hope Nastya isn't another Iva Majoli (who was actually from Sirius).

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Saturday, 5 June 2004 22:20 (twenty-two years ago)

They're about to go on. If I hear Fred Stolle tell how Coria is named after Guillermo Vilas one more time, I am going to kill everyone I see for the next week. Commentators all around the world are morons.

I don't care for Coria. Go Gaudio. I reckon he'll do it in four and make me happy.

edward o (edwardo), Sunday, 6 June 2004 12:16 (twenty-two years ago)

AH, nuts, Coria up two breaks in the first.

edward o (edwardo), Sunday, 6 June 2004 12:32 (twenty-two years ago)

Coria is playing wonderfully, just floating around the court picking GG off at will - Gaudio was 40-0 up on his own serve in that last game, but had very little say in any of the points.

Will the Eurosport commentators please shut up about the Henman match though.

The Lex (The Lex), Sunday, 6 June 2004 12:38 (twenty-two years ago)

I'd take commentators yattering on and on about Henman over what I'm putting up with.

On his first set point, Coria served what may have been his only fault. This is shit. Coria 6-0.

edward o (edwardo), Sunday, 6 June 2004 12:40 (twenty-two years ago)

Coria's strategy is actually a lot like Nastya's: superb defence, neutralise your opponent's strengths, mix up your shots, force them to go for too much, and go in for the kill when they're least expecting it.

I am lovin' it like that, especially as they just apologised for the Henman chatter and have not mentioned him since! They probably got an irate email or several.

The Lex (The Lex), Sunday, 6 June 2004 12:42 (twenty-two years ago)

Difficult to add anything to that. It's just a pity it's pretty miserable to watch - not much worth neutralising at the moment.

edward o (edwardo), Sunday, 6 June 2004 12:45 (twenty-two years ago)

Gaudio's playing better now, in that he sometimes hits shots which land inside the court, but Coria's still hardly breaking a sweat - playing so much within himself. Gaudio keeps going up 30-15 in games only for Coria to pull himself together, and he looks a broken man.

Coria leads 6-0 6-3 2-1...

The Lex (The Lex), Sunday, 6 June 2004 13:34 (twenty-two years ago)

looks like the semi-final with tim was coria's final.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Sunday, 6 June 2004 13:35 (twenty-two years ago)

Seems so. I like my clay-court tennis matches to be wars of attrition. Gaudio's backhand has had a few recent moments, though.

edward o (edwardo), Sunday, 6 June 2004 13:43 (twenty-two years ago)

At last! Drama! Gaudio takes the third set! GLEE!

edward o (edwardo), Sunday, 6 June 2004 14:09 (twenty-two years ago)

The with-skirts doubles champions wind up being Paolita and Ginny Ruano-Pascual, who deal out a mighty trouncing to Couscous and The Boozehound 6-0 6-3. Menwise Belgium gets its piece of silver, as Malisse and Rochus Superior 7-5 7-5 all over Llodratron and The Man Who Couldn't Be Arsed Going Home.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Sunday, 6 June 2004 14:14 (twenty-two years ago)

Junior champions: Sesil Karatancheva of Bulgaria (LAY-DEEZ!) and Gael Monfils of France (FELL-UHZ!)

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Sunday, 6 June 2004 14:18 (twenty-two years ago)

Who got the flow? Gaudy got the flow! 4-1 up in the 4th...

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Sunday, 6 June 2004 14:34 (twenty-two years ago)

Coria's cramping, no?

edward o (edwardo), Sunday, 6 June 2004 14:36 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm following off the Official Website.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Sunday, 6 June 2004 14:37 (twenty-two years ago)

OK, this is what the BBC says:

Fourth set:

Gaudio 0-6 3-6 6-4 4-1 Coria
Coria's serve is worse than Dementieva's was in the women's final yesterday. He is broken to love.

Gaudio 0-6 3-6 6-4 3-1 Coria
Coria looks to have given up. Gaudio holds easily, but the crowd are still stunned into silence.

Gaudio 0-6 3-6 6-4 2-1 Coria
Coria has both legs massaged by the trainer during his injury time-out. But at 15-15, he stops trying on his serve and does not run for anything. Everyone on Chatrier Court is bemused - including the line judge who fails to spot that Coria is foot-faulting. Unsurpringly he loses his serve. It remains to be seen whether the third seed is injured, or simply frustrated at failing to close out the match.

Gaudio 0-6 3-6 6-4 1-1 Coria
Coria has a glimmer of hope at 40-30 down, but he hammers a backhand long. He immediately returns to his chair, and calls for the trainer.

Gaudio 0-6 3-6 6-4 0-1 Coria
Coria gets back on track with a love service game.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Sunday, 6 June 2004 14:38 (twenty-two years ago)

Right, in an ideal world, that'd be the right way round. Then again, in an ideal world, I wouldn't be having to listen to The Calling right now.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Sunday, 6 June 2004 14:39 (twenty-two years ago)

And now 5-1. The BBC is astonished by the degree to which Coria is taking this lying down.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Sunday, 6 June 2004 14:41 (twenty-two years ago)

ANd there goes set #4, 6-1 to Gaudio. The tournament looks very likely to be closing on a whimper.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Sunday, 6 June 2004 14:42 (twenty-two years ago)

Or not, cos Coria's back to lead 2-1 in the closer...

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Sunday, 6 June 2004 15:00 (twenty-two years ago)

3-1. It would appear that it's Gaston's turn to blow it now.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Sunday, 6 June 2004 15:01 (twenty-two years ago)

French crowd may not like him looking in pain in set four and coming out fresh as a daisy in the fifth... he seems to be moving well.

3-2 now.

edward o (edwardo), Sunday, 6 June 2004 15:01 (twenty-two years ago)

Now, really, when I asked for drama, I didn't mean literal drama.
4-4.

edward o (edwardo), Sunday, 6 June 2004 15:13 (twenty-two years ago)

Okay, now it's becoming high farce. At least foot faults are being called now, but Coria fails to serve it out at 5-4. And now it's Five-All goes West and whoever holds serve will win.

edward o (edwardo), Sunday, 6 June 2004 15:20 (twenty-two years ago)

He who chokes last chokes loudest, or something.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Sunday, 6 June 2004 15:30 (twenty-two years ago)

Gaudio saves a second match point. If you were just listening to it rather than watching it you would assume that far from being a grand slam final, you were listening to raunchy man-sex. Eeeeh! oooh! Lots of crap floaty shots in that.

Coria falters and it's sixes.

edward o (edwardo), Sunday, 6 June 2004 15:38 (twenty-two years ago)

OMG!

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Sunday, 6 June 2004 15:39 (twenty-two years ago)

Gaudio holds! Even though he missed a sitter that could have had him down the shitter.

Coria couldn't serve out the match. Can he serve to stay in it?

edward o (edwardo), Sunday, 6 June 2004 15:43 (twenty-two years ago)

It must be Gaston now; Coria's first serve is like Mecir without the iron supplement, his second is municipal park standard. This is the choke of all time.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Sunday, 6 June 2004 15:44 (twenty-two years ago)

GAUDIO WINS!

In the worst way ever, but still! The Pimp has been denied!

edward o (edwardo), Sunday, 6 June 2004 15:47 (twenty-two years ago)

Most bizarre GS final since...?

Gaudio 0-6 3-6 6-4 6-1 8-6 in 3hr31.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Sunday, 6 June 2004 15:50 (twenty-two years ago)

Two highly bizarre matches for Coria in a row. I await conspiracy theories. Someone get started on a crackpot theory NOW!

edward o (edwardo), Sunday, 6 June 2004 15:51 (twenty-two years ago)

AAAARGH

My poor baby Guillermo :( He didn't choke... he was on the point of physical collapse throughout the last half of the match, and it was just extraordinary courage (and Gaudio's mental frailty) which got him as close as he did... Gaston Gaudio is possibly the luckiest Slam winner ever. Guillermo looked as if he was about to cry at the end :(

I hate the way that my Nastya will have to pose for photos with some fugly chancer who got lucky instead of a TRUE CHAMPION :( :(

The Lex (The Lex), Sunday, 6 June 2004 16:00 (twenty-two years ago)

My, that was quick, Lex. I'd say the luckiest Slam winner ever is still Conchita Martinez.

edward o (edwardo), Sunday, 6 June 2004 16:05 (twenty-two years ago)

Martinez didn't have a cramping, hobbled opponent on the verge of collapse spinning in puffball serves.

I'm BITTER.

The Lex (The Lex), Sunday, 6 June 2004 16:07 (twenty-two years ago)

True enough (I cite that one because I remember YELLING AT THE SCREEN due to what I perceived were appalling line calls at crucial times but can't remember) and the scoreline of this one will deceive people who browse the results... I wanted Gaudio to win but not like this.

edward o (edwardo), Sunday, 6 June 2004 16:09 (twenty-two years ago)

Plus, ya gotta give the man props for actually forcing Coria to the point where the cramps were an issue. He could have folded a la his former continental counterpart Marcello "The Tanker" Rios and just given up.

edward o (edwardo), Sunday, 6 June 2004 16:12 (twenty-two years ago)

Perhaps the Pinefox should start a thread: Guillermo Coria won't win The French Open 2005.

Roland Garros has certainly had more than its fair share of these sort of finals - Borg-Parun in '74, Lendl-McEnroe in '84, Agassi-Medvedev in '99; McEnroe, in my limited experience, was actually once the master of the whole misplace-the-genius-and-stop-competing* thing - Wembley final vs Connors in '81 (not even sitting down at the change of ends, but walking to the other end of the court and staring weirdly into space for 90 seconds), Aussie qf v Zivojinovic in '85, etc.

(* - OK, after seeing Lex's posts I'm prepared to concede that he was maybe more physically hindered tham I assumed; but loss of condition [if that's what it was rather than a strain] after playing just 16 sets en route to the final and leading 2-1 today after just 90-odd minutes? There has to be more to it.)

I'm glad that we saw a match (since the stratospheric heights of Goran'n'Pat at Wimb 2001 we've only one had men's GS final in 10 over three sets) and especially glad that its rather farcical extension meant live coverage on the Beeb after the interminable Whittaker Horsey Garbage threatened set to leave us with 15 mins of highlights.

Nice to see The Belgian Little And Large win the men's doubles; Olivier plays the straight man as Xavier lurches in dressed as Brel/Bertrand. When they hang their rackets up there's always panto.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Sunday, 6 June 2004 16:19 (twenty-two years ago)

At the start of the tournament I quite liked Gaudio, by the end of the final I couldn't stand his bad hair, bad teeth, general fugliness and lack of game. The third set was key though... Coria took it too lightly, Gaudio ground it out, and then the match had a whole different complexion. God, this was supposed to be the dream end to the dream tournament... and grr, grr.

Anyway. Roll of honour.

Men's singles: Gaston Gaudio
Women's singles: Anastasia Myskina
Men's doubles: Xavier Malisse and Olivier Rochus
Women's doubles: Virginia Ruano Pascual and Paola Suárez
Mixed doubles: Richard Gasquet and Tatiana Golovin
Boys' singles: Gael Monfils
Girls' singles: Sesil Karatancheva
Boys' doubles: Pablo Andujar and Marcel Granollers-Pujol
Girls' doubles: Katerina Bohmova and Michaella Krajicek

Yes, that's Michaella Krajicek as in Big Rich's half-sis.

Sesil Karatancheva is a feisty little thing... at the Indian Wells tournament in March, she played with the big girls and let's just say... she has a mouth on her, as shown by the press conference of the year.

The Lex (The Lex), Sunday, 6 June 2004 16:19 (twenty-two years ago)

OK, 17 sets.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Sunday, 6 June 2004 16:20 (twenty-two years ago)

loss of condition [if that's what it was rather than a strain]

I still don't know exactly what it was... there was suggestion that he'd strained a calf muscle, and he wasn't cramping up every point which would be normal for cramps... it just looked like he lost control of his legs completely. He couldn't push off to serve, he couldn't run, and at times he fell over the service line while preparing to serve without even realising. It got better in the fifth set, but not much.

The Lex (The Lex), Sunday, 6 June 2004 16:27 (twenty-two years ago)

So - Sesil K - I take it she got her ass kicked off by Sharapova? She sounds bonkers. I must ask my friend Elitza what she makes of it all (she's Bulgarian but also a fan of Magui Serna).

Oh, well, I hope we see G'mo - mind and body repaired - on the grass during the rest of the month. This has somehow managed to be the lengthiest tennis thread ever (I was going to say 'most popular' but, y'know, it's mostly been the Musketeers [Edward O = Brugnon, btw]).

Au revoir.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Sunday, 6 June 2004 16:39 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm normally an ILM-type-person who didn't have time to read ILE but but but but THE NICKNAMES! POWERLESS TO RESIST!

edward o (edwardo), Sunday, 6 June 2004 16:44 (twenty-two years ago)

This is the only ILX thread I've had time for lately, especially with ILM being rather dull.

Sesil did indeed get her ass kicked off by Shaz, though it went to three... other notable Sesil Sayings include "I'm nowhere near that bad" when faced with the inevitable Kournikova comparisons and, most recently after her Paris victory, "I am not going to shut up. I will say what I want to say. I'm fun to talk to and I will keep going."

She's the taller girl below.

http://www.novinite.com/media/images/2004-06/35495.jpg

The Lex (The Lex), Sunday, 6 June 2004 16:52 (twenty-two years ago)

Yes, well played sirs. And in memoriam:

ILM FRENCH OPEN 2004 PATENT DEMISTIFIER

SImply input your codified nickname of this choice to the page search in IE or Word or whatever and all should be revealed below:

The French Open - La Plume De Ma Tante Est Dans L'Abre Francaise Ouvrir Du Salle De Bains
Lawrie McMenemy - Lawrie McM
Serena Williams - Ser, Ree, The Incredible Hulk (Fuchsia Version), Williams Jr, The Fuchsia Hulk, Rena, Serene, Renes
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Amelie Mauresmo - La Mesmo, Mesmo, Resmo, La Fabuleuse, Amy, Beefy
Ludmila Cervanova - Server Nova
Magui Serna - Mar-Wee Serna, Nice Little Serna
Akiko Morigami - Mpaperfolding
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Jelena Dokic - Dock Itch
Vera Zvonereva - Bepa, DoubleVera
Chanda Rubin - Chandra Levy
Arnaud Clement - La Frenais, Emma Freud's Dad, Arnie, Arnie Clem
Fabrice Santoro - Suntory, Benny Santini, Santa, Fab Fabrice, Fabric, Marathon Man, The Man Who Couldn't Be Arsed Going Home
Rainer Schuettler - Shuttle, Rainy
Xavier Malisse - Neptune, X-Man, Lisse, Xav-Xav, Xavy, That Belgian Guy, Dr X, Xav, Avier
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Tommy Haas - Daagen-Haas, the pinball wizard
Kristof Vliegen - the Maaseiker
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Mary Pierce - Mary Peters, Mary P, La Diva, Quite Contrary
Younes El Aynaoui - Younes
Daniela Hantuchova - Infinite Legz
Shinobu Asagoe - Asagoinggoinggone, Shinobu Dragon Ninja, Revenge Of Shinobu, Shin
Barbara Schett - Schitt
Klara Koukalova - K-Kou, Klara Kouk-A-Doodle-doesn't
Claudine Schaul - Clouds
Tzipora Obziler - Zippy Tzipi
Shenay Perry - She-Ra Perry
Martina Navratilova - the Nav, the Ageless One, the Ancient Wonder
Gisela Dulko - Gorgeous Gisela
Elena Likhovtseva - The Threshing Machine, The Boozehound
Alina Jidkova - Ali Najid
Jennifer Capriati - Ford Capri, JenFat, JenEvenMoreFat, JenRiati, Fatriati, Cappifer, J-Cap, The Sunshine Stater, JC, Jenria, Capri, JennyCat, Jen, Cap, Cappers, Crapriati, Jenti, Jandy Capp, Craprak
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Guillermo Canas - Castanet
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Mats Wilander - MW
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Galo Blanco - DJ Porridge, HM Slade's oldest inmate
Anabel Medina Garrigues - Funky Cold Medina
Tathiana Garbin - Tax, Tax Breaks
Olivier Mutis - O I Must, O I Can't, The Man from Metz, Mut, Larry, Olly, Moo Tea, Mutey, Os Mutantes, Mu-Mu, Ollyollyolly, Mutya
Maria Sharapova - Shari-La, Shaz, The Future Of The Women's Game, The Future, Shap, Sharap, Shari, Masha, Ave Maria
Fernando Vicente - Gil Vicente
Irakli Labadze - Georgia Porgia
Michael Llodra - Llodratron, Metal Mickey, Llods
Nicolas Massu - Busty Chilean Massu (New In Town)
Vladimir Voltchkov - Wor Vlad
Julien Jeanpierre - Julie & Jean-Pierre
Meghann Shaughnessy - The Redemption Kid
Vera Douchevina - The Douchebag
Dinara Safina - Little Miss Marat
Marissa Irvin - Missy Irvin
Magdalena Maleeva - Maggie M, Maggie, The Magster, Milk-Snatcher
Albert Costa - Costa del Bert, Costa Brava, Bert, the Dirty Old Man, Alby, Cosworth Power, Costa Brava
Nicolas Kiefer - Sutherland, Keef
Ai Sugiyama - Boom Crash Sugiyami
Patty Schnyder - Batty Patty
Kim Clijsters - Mrs Llonely Boy
Potito Starace - Spud-U-Like, the Star Ace, General Kettle, Our Stacey, Wedges, Mister Potito Head, Starjumps, The Potito Man, Old Chipolata
Sebastien Grosjean - Seb, Big John
Juan-Carlos Ferrero - JC
Maria Kirilenko - Kirikirilenko
Thomas Enqvist - Tommy E
Jonas Bjorkman - Vespertine Man
Conchita Martinez - Cowchita Mootinez
Juan Ignacio Chela - 'ela, Heyla Chela, Iggy, Hey-Ya, J-Ig
Marlene Weingartner - Marlene on the Wall, Marley Marl, I Never Promised You A Wine Garden, Wine Bar
Guillermo Coria - Wee Willie, G'mo, The Pimp
Mario Ancic - SuperMario
Myriam Casanova - The World's Greatest Lover
John van Lottum - JVL Multitool
Anna Smashnova-Pistolesi - The Smash Pistol
Gustavo Kuerten - Guga, Kuert, Final Kuerten, Gusty, Tavo, Chesterton, Gugz, Curtain
Elena Bovina - The Bovine One
Martin Verkerk - Captain Verkerk, Ver Kerk, Best Loser
Igor Andreev- Handy Andy, Dreeeev
Julien Benneteau - JJ Bendytoes
Hyung-Taik Lee - Half-Decent Lee
Marat Safin - Saffy, Saffron, Jean-Paul, Maratski, Saffo, Saffie
Stefan Koubek - Kouhoutek
Franchesca Schiavone - Frankee, Sheer Voney, FranSchi, The Greatest Tennis Player In The History Of WCW
Fabiola Zuluaga - Fabulous Fabi, Fabby-O-La, Fabs, Fabz, Bantustove, Zulu
John McEnroe - JPMc, The Dubenroe, Mac
Jie Zheng - Zheng-A-Leng, JieJie
Svetlana Kuznetsova - Svet's Life, Kiss Kiss, Sweaty Couscous, Couscous
Paola Suarez - Crisis, THE DARK HORSE, Suari, Kelly "Pao-Pao! Pao-Pao!" Marie, Paolita, Francisco, 'Ola
Nicolas Escude - Scu
Tommy Robredo - Robbo, TomRob
Feliciano Lopez - Lici
Carlos Moya - Jackal
Roberta Vinci - Veni Vidi Vinci
Olivier Rochus - Rochus Superior

UNKNOWN - Sears-Roebuck, Thamble (poss. Radek Stepanek & Vladimir Voltchkov)

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Sunday, 6 June 2004 16:56 (twenty-two years ago)

Sears-Roebuck: Cyril Saulnier (CS...Sears, tenuous); Thamble - why, that's our glorious British hero, compared unfavourably to a doll on Play School.

Also: those discounted boozy Russians was the doubles team featuring Likhotseva (I obviously love this joke and will make it forever).

But, still, a staggering effort. Well done, WBS! I actually thought we'd reined in the nicknaming a bit this year, but...no.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Sunday, 6 June 2004 17:26 (twenty-two years ago)

Aye, you might have done. Unfortunately, I got rather over-enthusiastic this time round. Let us just hope Shinobu Asagoe never does anything of note again.

I am sensing a Wimbledon FAP might be an idea.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Sunday, 6 June 2004 17:32 (twenty-two years ago)

But Shinobu is so cool!

Awesome glossary action... and a Wimbledon FAP sounds like a good idea if it's possible at all. I'm still not sure when I'll be up in London... I'm thinking of going on the first Tuesday (queuing for ground pass), though I have yet to ask various people if I can crash on their floors on Monday.

The Lex (The Lex), Sunday, 6 June 2004 17:48 (twenty-two years ago)

Coria choked as far as I could see, they were breaking each other's services on the fifth weren't they? (the BBC started showing highlights and then they passed over much of the fifth set to get to the live action) and I just think he lost his nerve.

Coria was 2-0 up. He should've won the third set I'm afraid. But gaudio has come back in matches throughout the tournament and he really deserves it.

Wimbledon FAP would be nice, I've never been as I'm usually just stuck in front of the telly for two weeks. Hope to make it if anything happens.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Sunday, 6 June 2004 18:36 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah, it's not as if he waltzed into the final - he beat three seeds en route (Hewitt, Nalbandian and Novak) plus Canas and Enqvist (hardly no-marks) and pasted the guy who beat Ferrero. There's hope for everyone now, or the top-100 journeymen class at least; next year's Slam winners: Jarkko Nieminen, Flavio Saretta, Wayne Arthurs, James Blake. (That's a bit harsh on Blakey).

No redemption for Coria - banned for doping offences in 2001-2 (though his defence was the same as Rusedski's), his body seemed to fall apart under pressure.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Sunday, 6 June 2004 20:49 (twenty-two years ago)

Jiri Novak - NOW IS YOUR TIME.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Sunday, 6 June 2004 20:56 (twenty-two years ago)

What an extraordinary match. I don't know what happened to Coria but I he's grown in my estimation - not just a great player but a bit of a hero too. Well done to GG though - his ecstatic smiles were fantastic.

Crackity (Crackity Jones), Sunday, 6 June 2004 22:04 (twenty-two years ago)

(More erratum: sorry, I didn't spot that Likhotseva was more or less covered above. Nikita was Serra, not Spadea; Serra was also Leon, Spadea was also Guido. I reckon we covered around 115 players out of 256 in the main singles draws. Let's make sure EVERYONE gets a cryptic mention at Wimbledon!)

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Monday, 7 June 2004 08:38 (twenty-two years ago)

'Wimbledon FAP would be nice, I've never been as I'm usually just stuck in front of the telly for two weeks.'

sorry what I meant by that is I'm usually an armchair fan but if there's anything and I can turn up then I'll try (how do people find the queuing, is the second week at evening time any easier?).

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Monday, 7 June 2004 08:58 (twenty-two years ago)

Couple more:

Ivan Lendl: Sandshoe Face I
Andy Roddick: Sandshoe Face II

Thanks everybody and see you at Wimbledon.

Fred Nerk (Fred Nerk), Monday, 7 June 2004 09:00 (twenty-two years ago)

It's good to go late afternoon during the firts week when there is still a lot of tennis going on but people leaving after a whole day there.

Ed (dali), Monday, 7 June 2004 09:08 (twenty-two years ago)

ok, so what time do you start queuing?

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Monday, 7 June 2004 09:27 (twenty-two years ago)

Ed OTM - there are so many matches in week 1 that they go on till late anyway. Go at about 5.30, queue for not too long, get a good 2 1/2 to 3 hours play. It's great.

Markelby (Mark C), Monday, 7 June 2004 09:27 (twenty-two years ago)

It's a bit of a crapshoot - I've walked straight in at 5pm on the first Wednesday/Thursday in the past with only the merest hint of a queue and yet last year it was all the way around the car park at 6-ish on (I think) the same day so there was no point even trying. Henman had won in straight sets early in the afternoon but people had stayed in the grounds. A day when the weather's been a bit iffy but has miraculously cleared up at 6pm is ideal - you can get a resale ticket for Centre no problem.

Ground entry in week 2 is easier (and cheaper) but you'll only see doubles, veterans and juniors unless you fancy requeueing for the unreserved seating on courts 3 and 18 (the less glamorous 4th round singles on the 2nd Monday).

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Monday, 7 June 2004 09:40 (twenty-two years ago)

thanks for the info everyone.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Monday, 7 June 2004 09:45 (twenty-two years ago)

What I'll do is look at the schedules and weather forecast for the first week to decide on the day (first week).

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Monday, 7 June 2004 09:48 (twenty-two years ago)

Ground entry in week 2 is easier (and cheaper) but you'll only see doubles, veterans and juniors

The advantage to this is spotting all the super-talented juniors two years in advance, then being really smug when the rest of the world cottons on.

I'll be queuing from about 8am for a ground pass... it's probably the last year I'll be able to go all day, got to make the most of it.

The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 7 June 2004 10:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Why would you want a centre court, ticket, Mike? Especially in the 1st week when so many of the seeds play on the outside courts. Seeing qualifiers being thrashed to love by Serena Williams isn't my idea of a good time - I'd rather see the world no. 23 being beaten by a luscious nobody from Paraguay out on court 18.

Markelby (Mark C), Monday, 7 June 2004 10:38 (twenty-two years ago)

'Thamble'!

the junefox, Monday, 7 June 2004 10:50 (twenty-two years ago)

Why would you want a centre court, ticket, Mike?

Bragging rights? I know, I always used to stare in disbelief at folks queueing AGAIN for CC and #1 returns after spending hours shuffling along the pavement just to get in the place when - right there for free - they could see Andres Gomez or Cedric Pioline or Natalia Zvereva or whoever. BUT, the day I did it in 2000 it had been on-off drizzling for a couple of hours and only the showcourts looked likely to get back on before dusk - so for £3 I got to see the end of Enqvist-Damm on Centre.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Monday, 7 June 2004 11:21 (twenty-two years ago)

I thought that only a DERBY TRIUMPH guaranteed you authentic BRAGGING RIGHTS. You must be thinking of something else. GLOATING VOUCHERS, perhaps?

the pinefox, Monday, 7 June 2004 12:07 (twenty-two years ago)

Smug tokens? Redeemable at Esso garages for a superiority complex wallchart. I do have some time off around Wimbledon - I might be perverse this year and go early on the second Thursday just for a wander around. Back in time for the Euro2004 semi, obv.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Monday, 7 June 2004 12:15 (twenty-two years ago)

The trouble with those wallcharts is they're so... complex.

the pinefox, Monday, 7 June 2004 12:21 (twenty-two years ago)

I dehypenated just for you, PF.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Monday, 7 June 2004 12:47 (twenty-two years ago)

Aargh.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Monday, 7 June 2004 12:47 (twenty-two years ago)

Men's doubles: Xavier Malisse and Olivier Rochus

-> I love how the French papers didn't even mention their names assuming the French *fwogs* would win. HAH! (That said: I'm not that fond of Malisse.)

jesus nathalie (nathalie), Monday, 7 June 2004 12:51 (twenty-two years ago)

The new world rankings for the men (entry system, natch):

1. Federer
2. Roddick
3. Coria
4. Nalbandian (up 4)
5. Henman (up 4)
6. Ferrero (down 2)
7. Moya (down 2)
8. Schuettler (down 1)
9. Agassi (down 3)
10. Gaudio (up 34)
11. Hewitt (up 1)
12. Massu (down 1)
13. Grosjean (down 3)
14. Srichaphan (down 1)
15. Safin (up 5)
16. Schalken (down 1)
17. Philippoussis (up 1)
18. Chela (up 5)
19. Novak (down 5)
20. Pavel (up 2)

Other movers and shakers: Kuerten is up from 30 to 24; Verkerk drops from 19 to 55; Costa also plummets and Llodra climbs. Oh, look, I've just broken their database server.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Monday, 7 June 2004 15:09 (twenty-two years ago)

And the rankings for the LAY-DEEZ:

1. Henin-Hardenne
2. Clijsters
3. Myskina (up two)
4. Mauresmo (down one)
5. Davenport (down one)
6. Dementieva (up four)
7. Capriati (down one)
8. Williams, V (up one)
9. Suárez (up five)
10. Kuznetsova (up one)
11. Williams, S (down four)
12. Petrova (down four)
13. Sugiyama (down one)
14. Zvonareva (down one)
15. Sharapova (up five)
16. Farina Elia
17. Smashnova-Pistolesi (up one)
18. Rubin (down three)
19. Schiavone
20. Schnyder (down three)

....

=993. Navratilova, M (new entry)

(M-Nav shares the No 993 rank with (drum roll) Ana Abramovic, Essi Laine, Adriana Mingireanu, Raluca-Ioana Olaru and Florencia Rivolta. Back among tennis's best, clearly.)

The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 7 June 2004 15:57 (twenty-two years ago)

I tried to watch the coverage of Queens' today. It was like the sunshine had evaporated the atmosphere. But Rusedski is out. Which can only be a good thing.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Monday, 7 June 2004 19:50 (twenty-two years ago)

did karlovic go through? I love karlovic.

cozen (Cozen), Monday, 7 June 2004 19:56 (twenty-two years ago)

Ivo-9 is through after three sets of hell with The Airwolf (warming up already? Bien sur...).

But it was a good day for shocks - Strapping Aussie Wayne Arthurs straight setted by Non-Strapping Non-Aussie Yen-Hsun Lu, Brit wildcard Jon Marray gets rid of Rochus Inferior, Toddly Reid didn't lose, but, best of all:

Taylor Dent lost to Jamie Delgado.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Monday, 7 June 2004 20:15 (twenty-two years ago)

OK, enough with the nicknames though, please. there should be a dvd-option to turn them off. if only graham had stuck around. sorry, I'm just warm and grouchy.

cozen (Cozen), Monday, 7 June 2004 20:31 (twenty-two years ago)

LAST POST DEMISTIFIER

In order:

Ivo Karlovic
Jan-Michael Gambill
Wayne Arthurs
Yen-Hsun Lu
Jonathan Marray
Christophe Rochus
Todd Reid
Taylor Dent
Jamie Delgado

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Monday, 7 June 2004 20:32 (twenty-two years ago)

hehe thank you. :)

cozen (Cozen), Monday, 7 June 2004 20:37 (twenty-two years ago)

I love these threads but am far too scared to contribute. You all know SO MUCH!!!

So I will lurk once more, just pausing long enough to ask why no-one has used Biff Bang Paola! as a nickname yet. I like making these up but lack the nerve to use them in a tennis related post. Possibly because I stopped religiously watching tennis at the tail end of the magnificent Swedish triumvirate (Edberg, Wilander, Jarryd).

And I would second what Cozen said about Mike's article in Papercuts. It's grebt, and then some. Specifically because it's what I thought about tennis back then, but written by someone who could articulate it.

Much like this thread is now.

ailsa (ailsa), Monday, 7 June 2004 20:42 (twenty-two years ago)

I would third what I said.

cozen (Cozen), Monday, 7 June 2004 20:45 (twenty-two years ago)

I said it first!

the bellefox, Monday, 7 June 2004 22:07 (twenty-two years ago)

(Moderator: please lock this thread)

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 8 June 2004 07:18 (twenty-two years ago)


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