Why is it that the people on this forum are so amazingly great when met in person yet often bring out the worst in each other online?

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― donut bitch (donut), Monday, 28 June 2004 17:41 (twenty-one years ago)

[HUGE IMAGE]

― Player Piano Gamelan (ex machina), Monday, 28 June 2004 17:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Because people tend to actually engage their social skills in face-to-face meetings whereas online the extra layer of remove/anonymity lets you forget that you aren't interacting with NPC scripts.

Also, the people on this forum are fucking stupid.

(Do you see what I'm doing here?)

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 28 June 2004 17:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Because people on boards seem to be comfortable making huge leaping assumptions about the perseon they are speaking to, and run with them--- when in person they would get bitch-slapped.

― Orbit (Orbit), Monday, 28 June 2004 17:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Because it's easy to vent unfocused rage and anger at anonymous and pseudonymous people, or people one can't see or hear or touch. We're social animals and when we have actual contact with people our behavior is more restrained.

― Michael White (Hereward), Monday, 28 June 2004 17:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Because body language and tone of voice don't come across very well on the interweb.

― Ian c=====8 (orion), Monday, 28 June 2004 17:47 (twenty-one years ago)

this should be a numbered list thread.

― cozen (Cozen), Monday, 28 June 2004 17:47 (twenty-one years ago)

good answers, so far...

so now what?

― donut bitch (donut), Monday, 28 June 2004 17:48 (twenty-one years ago)

we get a prize?

― Orbit (Orbit), Monday, 28 June 2004 17:49 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.law.harvard.edu/students/orgs/forum/donahue.jpg

― Leon Czolgosz (Nicole), Monday, 28 June 2004 17:49 (twenty-one years ago)

i mean, almost everyone at this point has become frustrated enough with this place to threaten to leave the forum several times, if not publicly, in one's mind. Since we KNOW why this forum filters out the man good aspects of the social part, is there a way to try and make this place a more pleasant place in light of this?

― donut bitch (donut), Monday, 28 June 2004 17:50 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm probably the exception here. I'm an aloof jackass in real life.

― Huk-El (Horace Mann), Monday, 28 June 2004 17:50 (twenty-one years ago)

"man" = "many"

― donut bitch (donut), Monday, 28 June 2004 17:50 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.snopes.com/crime/graphics/weed.jpg

― Player Piano Gamelan (ex machina), Monday, 28 June 2004 17:50 (twenty-one years ago)

It's too much to ask people to think about what they're posting before they do so; it's also too much to ask people to radically alter their posting styles.

I think the only solution is all-out nuclear holocaust.

(I watched "T3" before bed last night and it's made me all apocolypty.)

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 28 June 2004 17:50 (twenty-one years ago)

You're making me wanna post OPERATION IVY A BOMB TEST PICS at 1600x5034950935 resolution, Dan.

― Player Piano Gamelan (ex machina), Monday, 28 June 2004 17:51 (twenty-one years ago)

This is why.

― Leon Czolgosz (Nicole), Monday, 28 June 2004 17:52 (twenty-one years ago)

so who are the people in question?
everyone?
"certain" people?

― Orbit (Orbit), Monday, 28 June 2004 17:52 (twenty-one years ago)

apocolypty = ahhhhh, forget it.

― Huk-El (Horace Mann), Monday, 28 June 2004 17:52 (twenty-one years ago)

apocalicious.

― Player Piano Gamelan (ex machina), Monday, 28 June 2004 17:52 (twenty-one years ago)

HUGS

mega xpost to "what now?"

― oops (Oops), Monday, 28 June 2004 17:53 (twenty-one years ago)

apocolypty vs apoplecty, which is cuter?

― Michael White (Hereward), Monday, 28 June 2004 17:54 (twenty-one years ago)

eucalyptus

― Huk-El (Horace Mann), Monday, 28 June 2004 17:54 (twenty-one years ago)

i mean, almost everyone at this point has become frustrated enough with this place to threaten to leave the forum several times, if not publicly, in one's mind

I have never threatened to leave, even in my mind.

Fuck y'all.

(Yeah, I saw what you were doin there Dan)

― martin m. (mushrush), Monday, 28 June 2004 17:54 (twenty-one years ago)

is ILX too pally?

― Orbit (Orbit), Monday, 28 June 2004 17:55 (twenty-one years ago)

if i were still a Californian, i'd vote for Schwarzenegger only if he volunteered to lower himself into a vast pit of molten metal at the end of this term for the better of mankind.

So, yeah, as it's pretty clear, the people with a lot of free time on his/her hands (I plead guilty) tend to monopolize the boards and set the tone... as a free public forum, this is unavoidable.

yet, from some accounts, meetings with all the accused in question have been very positive.

It's just strange to me, now that I've met a lot of people on this forum, that my life would that much more empty had i not met them, yet every thread seems to be this frustrating struggle between personalities that don't know how to filter each other and themselves.

― donut bitch (donut), Monday, 28 June 2004 17:55 (twenty-one years ago)

DB is a very wise man.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 28 June 2004 17:57 (twenty-one years ago)

i have met some ilxors who were not so amazingly great in person. the ones i have met who are amazingly great in person, are also amazingly great online.

― amateur!st (amateurist), Monday, 28 June 2004 17:57 (twenty-one years ago)

"amazingly great" sounds like the kind of hosanna one would give out freely if you knew about 20 words of english.

"would you like fries with that?"

(heavy accent) "yes, yes fries."

"here you are sir."

(heavy accent) "that is amazingly great thank you"

― amateur!st (amateurist), Monday, 28 June 2004 17:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh, I think DB is a bit cynical here. Surely there are lots of ILE threads which aren't about the struggle between personalities.

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Monday, 28 June 2004 17:58 (twenty-one years ago)

replace the last line with "that is amazingly great, please"

(xp)

― s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 28 June 2004 17:59 (twenty-one years ago)

i wish someone would give examples so that those who don't live inside DBs mind knew what was being discussed.

― Orbit (Orbit), Monday, 28 June 2004 18:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Fie Orbit! I will never reveal the secrets I have learned by living inside of DB's mind! You cannot make me!

― martin m. (mushrush), Monday, 28 June 2004 18:02 (twenty-one years ago)

((x-post: see jon, that's what i mean by you being boring. i think i prefer you talking about sex and "outrageous" noise bands.))

-- amateur!st (amateur!s...) (webmail), June 28th, 2004 3:02 PM. (amateurist) (later) (link)

― Player Piano Gamelan (ex machina), Monday, 28 June 2004 18:04 (twenty-one years ago)

that is amazingly great post jon!

― amateur!st (amateurist), Monday, 28 June 2004 18:06 (twenty-one years ago)

I've been thinking about starting an enemies list to remember which of all the people on here has been a dick to me in the past....

― Player Piano Gamelan (ex machina), Monday, 28 June 2004 18:07 (twenty-one years ago)

that's a bit creepy.

i hope i haven't offended you direly.

― amateur!st (amateurist), Monday, 28 June 2004 18:08 (twenty-one years ago)

I might be just lucky, but I contend that the folks who are "not amazingly great" to meet (to me) here are never going to care to want to meet anybody on this forum anyway and are content to post shit forever on.

(for the record, the people I'm talking about have not posted on this thread yet)

― donut bitch (donut), Monday, 28 June 2004 18:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Hands up everyone who figured this thread would dissolve into people take "friendly" potshots at each other in less than 50 posts!

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 28 June 2004 18:09 (twenty-one years ago)

ME?!!??!

― deanomgwtf!!!p%3Fmsgid%3D4581997 (deangulberry), Monday, 28 June 2004 18:10 (twenty-one years ago)

I think this has been suggested before, but is it possible for ILE to adapt a usenet-esque killfile system? That way people could make lists of those who bother them and never have to hear from them again.

― Ian c=====8 (orion), Monday, 28 June 2004 18:10 (twenty-one years ago)

Hands up everyone who figured this thread would dissolve into people take "friendly" potshots at each other in less than 50 posts!

*raises hand*

― stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 28 June 2004 18:10 (twenty-one years ago)

we've talked about this before, Ian, but this would make a lot of threads lose semantics due to the non-killfiled people responding to the killfiled people.

― donut bitch (donut), Monday, 28 June 2004 18:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Also, I may be completely naive, but it's been my observation that most of the people I have met in person are very similar in personality when posting. Yes, in quite a few cases, seeing/hearing the personality in action in person makes it easier to read the personality online, but I don't think that's always true. (e.g. I didn't have to meet Ned or Gareth to get a good idea of their personalities. I'm glad to have met both, and their online personas aren't identical to their real-life personas, but they are close enough that I wasn't shocked or anything.)

On the other hand I have met folks for whom there is a bigger difference between online and in person personas. (Or at least it's easier to miss the difference between really pissed off and smiling while they make the comment or whatever.) (I'm thinking specifically of hstencil, who sometimes reads like he's a lot more annoyed than I know him to ever get in person... I'm hesitant to single him out as an example, but folks have been asking, so I thought I'd give one. I do want to point out that I like both of his personas, on and offline, but they are a little further apart than other posters I know in person. At least in my observation.) For all I know, I'm one of the ones who seems more different online just because I don't use emoticons or anything like that to diffuse sarcasm or something else that could be interpreted incorrectly.

― martin m. (mushrush), Monday, 28 June 2004 18:12 (twenty-one years ago)

I like the idea of Jon having a Nixonesque 'enemies' list and bombarding them with odd images. It renews my belief in America's promise.

― Michael White (Hereward), Monday, 28 June 2004 18:12 (twenty-one years ago)

I can't keep track of all the haters!

― Player Piano Gamelan (ex machina), Monday, 28 June 2004 18:14 (twenty-one years ago)

x-post to db:

It would be relatively easy to implement a "show" button for killfiled posts, no? That way, if a killfiled post disrupts the flow of a conversation each user could have the ability to restore the post? Maybe that's more effort than is necessary, though. Wasn't it Jesus who said, "Turn the other cheek?"

― Ian c=====8 (orion), Monday, 28 June 2004 18:14 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't think we need killfiles yet

― Player Piano Gamelan (ex machina), Monday, 28 June 2004 18:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Because people are fuckers.

― luna (luna.c), Monday, 28 June 2004 18:15 (twenty-one years ago)

(who put the benzedrine in ILX's ovaltine? Actually, I should say ILE. ILM is pretty mellow these days.)

― scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 28 June 2004 18:16 (twenty-one years ago)

xpost to jon: If we had a killfile system I almost definitely wouldn't use it, but some people apparently feel very strongly about unsolicited bullshitting.

― Ian c=====8 (orion), Monday, 28 June 2004 18:16 (twenty-one years ago)

I can't keep track of all the haters!

So you bombard all the threads with photos to make sure you're covering the bases? ;-)

― Michael White (Hereward), Monday, 28 June 2004 18:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Ian: I'm toning down *my* BS level. What gets my goat are the people who are genuinely nasty, not stupid.

― Player Piano Gamelan (ex machina), Monday, 28 June 2004 18:17 (twenty-one years ago)

http://userpages.umbc.edu/~bbussa1/nickbuzz.jpg

― Player Piano Gamelan (ex machina), Monday, 28 June 2004 18:18 (twenty-one years ago)

i heart nick and buzz.

― stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 28 June 2004 18:20 (twenty-one years ago)

hey jon and ian, i apologize for being a bitch to you guys the past 48 hours. i won't do it again, promise.

― amateur!st (amateurist), Monday, 28 June 2004 18:20 (twenty-one years ago)

That Comic Sans stings.

― deanomgwtf!!!p%3Fmsgid%3D4581997 (deangulberry), Monday, 28 June 2004 18:21 (twenty-one years ago)

(this is not a shot, but) where is hstencil?

― artdamages (artdamages), Monday, 28 June 2004 18:23 (twenty-one years ago)

― Player Piano Gamelan (ex machina), Monday, 28 June 2004 18:23 (twenty-one years ago)

hstencil got sick of nutjobs calling him a nazi

― Player Piano Gamelan (ex machina), Monday, 28 June 2004 18:23 (twenty-one years ago)

Stence is on his lunch break, his AIM away message would lead me to believe.

― Ian c=====8 (orion), Monday, 28 June 2004 18:24 (twenty-one years ago)

the new font makes me feel perk.
i will skip away for a coffee and muffin!
*la, la, la*

― Orbit (Orbit), Monday, 28 June 2004 18:26 (twenty-one years ago)

Is it to much to fucking ask that people not mess with the font and/or background so that it doesn't become incredibly obvious that I'm not doing work?

― St. Nicholas (Nick A.), Monday, 28 June 2004 18:27 (twenty-one years ago)

jon seems to be making a case for killfiles (or something) over at ilm.

(i said I wasn't ripping hstencil, but there seems to be unpleasantness surrounding and including him often)

― artdamages (artdamages), Monday, 28 June 2004 18:27 (twenty-one years ago)

artdamages, go suck off hot hot heat

― Player Piano Gamelan (ex machina), Monday, 28 June 2004 18:29 (twenty-one years ago)

― martin m. (mushrush), Monday, 28 June 2004 18:29 (twenty-one years ago)

JON BE NICE.

― Ian c=====8 (orion), Monday, 28 June 2004 18:29 (twenty-one years ago)

y'all gonna accept my apology?

― amateur!st (amateurist), Monday, 28 June 2004 18:30 (twenty-one years ago)

BURRITOVILLE

― gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 28 June 2004 18:31 (twenty-one years ago)

argh.

― martin m. (mushrush), Monday, 28 June 2004 18:31 (twenty-one years ago)

you already apologized to me YESTERDAY

― Player Piano Gamelan (ex machina), Monday, 28 June 2004 18:31 (twenty-one years ago)

ILXORS BE GETTIN ALL META-EMO. IN RELATED NEWS: NICKALICIOUS NOT POSTING/READING QUITE AS MUCH LATELY.

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 28 June 2004 18:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Grrr.

― martin m. (mushrush), Monday, 28 June 2004 18:37 (twenty-one years ago)

i accept your apology, amateurist, though i don't think you were being particularly mean to me. i just have to defend jon; i feel like his big brother sometimes.

― Ian c=====8 (orion), Monday, 28 June 2004 18:38 (twenty-one years ago)

seeing "Leon Czolgosz" in comic sans is really making my head explode. (p.s. nicole that is the sexiest handle yet)

― teeny (teeny), Monday, 28 June 2004 18:38 (twenty-one years ago)

artdamages, go suck off hot hot heat

fyi the lead singer dude isn't circumsized

― artdamages (artdamages), Monday, 28 June 2004 18:38 (twenty-one years ago)

(STOP FUCKING WITH THE BOARD FONT. FOR FUCK'S SAKE.)

― MODERATOR (Dan Perry), Monday, 28 June 2004 18:39 (twenty-one years ago)

(I was tryin to fix the font... My "Grrr" post above has a blockquote style defined in it to put the bitch on Times New Roman. I hope I didn't cause a problem.)

― martin m. (mushrush), Monday, 28 June 2004 18:41 (twenty-one years ago)

seeing "Leon Czolgosz" in comic sans is really making my head explode. (p.s. nicole that is the sexiest handle yet)

It is a great handle. I had a Diablo II character named that a couple years ago

― Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Monday, 28 June 2004 18:41 (twenty-one years ago)

El Diablo Czolgosz

― stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 28 June 2004 18:43 (twenty-one years ago)

dan, its comic sans!

― Player Piano Gamelan (ex machina), Monday, 28 June 2004 18:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Adding to the Czolgosz love here. How is it pronounced anyway?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 28 June 2004 18:44 (twenty-one years ago)

"chowl-gosh"

― Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Monday, 28 June 2004 18:45 (twenty-one years ago)

http://ilx.wh3rd.net/newanswers.php?board=86

― Player Piano Gamelan (ex machina), Monday, 28 June 2004 18:53 (twenty-one years ago)

"chowl-gosh"

Now that's beautiful.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 28 June 2004 18:54 (twenty-one years ago)

you already apologized to me YESTERDAY
-- Player Piano Gamelan (Jonathan(dot)Williams@Google's_Amazing_New_Free_Email_Service(dot)com) (webmail), June 28th, 2004 12:31 PM. (ex machina) (later) (link)

yeah, you're right. i'll prove my love by being a nice guy from now on.

― amateur!st (amateurist), Monday, 28 June 2004 19:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Not to go all awards speech on your asses, but I have met some incredibly nice people from ILX. It has been a joy. In fact, without AKM's guidance and wisdom during my early months in the Bay Area, I would probably be running naked down Market St right now, howling like a wolf.

― AdamL :') (nordicskilla), Monday, 28 June 2004 19:25 (twenty-one years ago)

CURSE YOU AKM

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 28 June 2004 19:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Haha!

― AdamL :') (nordicskilla), Monday, 28 June 2004 19:27 (twenty-one years ago)

You'd be a day late Adam.

― Michael White (Hereward), Monday, 28 June 2004 20:36 (twenty-one years ago)

I AM A WEREGAYPERSON!!!

― gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 28 June 2004 20:46 (twenty-one years ago)

certain people have certain behavioural modes on here that tend to annoy. why they annoy is another question perhaps, but annoy they do, me. it isn't really much of a problem all in all, esp. as i have liked every ILXer i met in the flesh (or if not liked then at least was able to talk to them politely and pleasantly).

― stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 00:16 (twenty-one years ago)

I annoy Steve M on-line:( I don't know about in person thought...

― Mary (Mary), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 00:18 (twenty-one years ago)

hey orbit maybe us working class folx are two busy being chided for our lack of education and poor breeding by the fat bourgie likes of you to have the time to vote! you know us po ignant plebes!

-- cinniblount (littlejohnnyjewe...) (webmail), June 29th, 2004. (James Blount)

― Orbit (Orbit), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 00:20 (twenty-one years ago)

hey orbit maybe us working class folx are two busy being chided for our lack of education and poor breeding by the fat bourgie likes of you to have the time to vote! you know us po ignant plebes!

-- cinniblount (littlejohnnyjewe...) (webmail), June 29th, 2004. (James Blount)

A prime example of assholishness.

― Orbit (Orbit), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 00:21 (twenty-one years ago)

A prime example of assholishness?

― RJG (RJG), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 00:23 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah orbit's mad cuz everytime she posts something incredibly condescending and stupid about the 'working class' or, as she sometimes phrases it, 'the uneducated class', or if she's feeling extra spunky the 'ignorant and illiterate class' i call bullshit on it. apparently us plebes don't know our place.

― cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 00:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Blount take your ad hominem and shove it up your ass.
And then fuck off.

― Orbit (Orbit), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 00:26 (twenty-one years ago)

um, orbit, did it ever occur to you that the practice of quoting others wildly out of context so as to damn them beyond a shadow of a doubt is perhaps not the wisest way to fight a battle in which you're defending michael fucking moore?!

― mark p (Mark P), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 00:26 (twenty-one years ago)

Look Mark, that was an ad hominem attack, plain and simple. There is nothing in Blount's post about the subject at hand. It is a personal attack plain and simple. It is not out of context, because there was not a flame war going on. There were people talking about issues, and Blount hurling personal insults. I call BULLSHIT.

― Orbit (Orbit), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 00:29 (twenty-one years ago)

i like when people drag their fights out over multiple threads.

― bnw (bnw), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 00:31 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah, see, thing is, i read the thread too.

(xpost)

― mark p (Mark P), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 00:31 (twenty-one years ago)

was i right about the "bifurcation point" thing?

― benito mussolinington (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 00:32 (twenty-one years ago)

i think iread that in a comic book

― benito mussolinington (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 00:32 (twenty-one years ago)

(i said I wasn't ripping hstencil, but there seems to be unpleasantness surrounding and including him often)

which is fucked because he's one of the nicest, funniest, smartest people that i know, and i'm proud to call him my friend.

― lauren (laurenp), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 00:32 (twenty-one years ago)

benito: yes!

wait, what does that mean

― mark p (Mark P), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 00:32 (twenty-one years ago)

haha i think i just posted that to the wrong thread

― benito mussolinington (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 00:33 (twenty-one years ago)

well it *is* on topic, isn't it?
and a good example of the thread title?

mark great for reading the thread, but as Blount is attributing statements to me that i never made is STILL CALL BULLSHIT.

xxxxxpost

― Orbit (Orbit), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 00:33 (twenty-one years ago)

also many people who post to ilx are the lovliest people i know outside ilx who i think are atrocious assholes on ilx

― benito mussolinington (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 00:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Mary you have never annoyed me the two times I have met you in person. that Gareth is really annoying me now tho, both on and offline, hahaha...

― stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 00:33 (twenty-one years ago)

i am basically bored with being annoyed by people i don't know from faraway lands and have turned on my actual friends now

― stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 00:35 (twenty-one years ago)

it's a quicker payoff

― cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 00:36 (twenty-one years ago)

it's only fitting that this thread should end in tears and dropped elbows

― mark p (Mark P), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 00:36 (twenty-one years ago)

i got over the people i really like not posting here anymore long ago

― benito mussolinington (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 00:37 (twenty-one years ago)

what is this now, nu-nu-nu ilx?

― mark p (Mark P), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 00:37 (twenty-one years ago)

http://images.usatoday.com/life/_photos/2003/2003-10/06-ludacris-music.jpg

― benito mussolinington (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 00:38 (twenty-one years ago)

ilx seems to try my patience more than ever lately, a combination of people acting the giddy asshat-wearing goat (myself included) and perhaps unrealistic/needless expectations nay demands on my part

― stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 00:38 (twenty-one years ago)

haha i dont even know who anyone IS around here anymore

― benito mussolinington (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 00:39 (twenty-one years ago)

way too many people named "mark" and "matt" or with names like "arttheif" or "x---h!@"

― benito mussolinington (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 00:39 (twenty-one years ago)

i am mc paul barman

― mc paul barman (blueski), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 00:40 (twenty-one years ago)

hey screw you dude.

(xpost)

― mark p (Mark P), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 00:40 (twenty-one years ago)

i was here FOURTH

― mark p (Mark P), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 00:40 (twenty-one years ago)

i am lovely.

― Orbit (Orbit), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 00:40 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah it's gotta be like nu X4...i realized this when i realized that ian and jon have been here for close to two years now

― benito mussolinington (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 00:41 (twenty-one years ago)

dear god!

― cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 00:42 (twenty-one years ago)

and yet they still haven't hatched

― mark p (Mark P), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 00:42 (twenty-one years ago)

well we haven't fed them after midnight yet

― benito mussolinington (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 00:43 (twenty-one years ago)

jess if josh and ethan and, um, mark s. and j0hn and whoever (sterling!)(haha he doesn't really qualify for this thread though huh) did post here again it would just be like the pixies reunion or something. dust in the wind dude.

― cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 00:44 (twenty-one years ago)

or, as pictures of jon will attest, exposed them to daylight

― mark p (Mark P), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 00:44 (twenty-one years ago)

xpost

― mark p (Mark P), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 00:45 (twenty-one years ago)

hey man i'm not advocating living in the past. i'm trying to do the best with what i've got.

― benito mussolinington (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 00:46 (twenty-one years ago)

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 00:46 (twenty-one years ago)

two stale 7-11 chimichangas and a snow patrol promo?

― mark p (Mark P), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 00:47 (twenty-one years ago)

ILE's political threads in general could use a lot more humility. Too many carried over agendas of proving some poster right or wrong. Political views should be allowed (even praised) for being malleable, especially on a discussion board. In a related sidenote, I wish political blogs were more like some music blogs, where instead of "SEE? SEE? MY TEAM IS RIGHT! HERE ARE 50 LINKS TO PROVE IT!" we got a little more of the author trying to figure out things for themselves, a little more admission that they don't know what their position is. That's my moderate dream anyway.

― bnw (bnw), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 00:47 (twenty-one years ago)

people have only ever QUIT ILX FOREVER because of personal circumstances/situation change rather than being so enraged with the inane attention-seeking ad nauseum they couldn't deal no more tho right?

― stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 00:47 (twenty-one years ago)

mark that's so dangerously close to the truth i feel like crying

― benito mussolinington (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 00:48 (twenty-one years ago)

the clean white layout of ilx makes it easier to see into your soul

― mark p (Mark P), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 00:49 (twenty-one years ago)

i think you're all a bunch of cuties.

― The Lady Ms Lurex (lucylurex), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 00:50 (twenty-one years ago)

no we're not. we're fat and hairy and have acne.

― benito mussolinington (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 00:52 (twenty-one years ago)

i feel kind of giddy. this is the most i've posted to ile in like a month.

― benito mussolinington (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 00:52 (twenty-one years ago)

u2 di!

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 00:54 (twenty-one years ago)

no we're not. we're fat and hairy and have acne.

CUTIES!

― The Lady Ms Lurex (lucylurex), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 01:01 (twenty-one years ago)

well, my mom does say i'm handsome

― mark p (Mark P), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 01:02 (twenty-one years ago)

my mom says i need a haircut

― benito mussolinington (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 01:03 (twenty-one years ago)

i'm not fat, hairy, or have acne.

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 01:03 (twenty-one years ago)

i'm not fat, hairy, or have acne.

CUTIES!

― The Lady Ms Lurex (lucylurex), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 01:04 (twenty-one years ago)

MAKE UP YOUR MIND LADY

― benito mussolinington (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 01:05 (twenty-one years ago)

I like this new development.

― RJG (RJG), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 01:05 (twenty-one years ago)

are you still here?

― benito mussolinington (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 01:05 (twenty-one years ago)

http://photos.friendster.com/photos/38/21/591283/4344950839212l.jpg

di, please type CUTIES! again after this pic so I can go home with a smile on my face

― CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 01:05 (twenty-one years ago)

(like you've ever turned down anyone THAT easy to please ...)

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 01:06 (twenty-one years ago)

HOOBASTANK-RESPECTER

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 01:06 (twenty-one years ago)

I know, jess.

I am sorry.

― RJG (RJG), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 01:06 (twenty-one years ago)

di, please type CUTIES! again after this pic so I can go home with a smile on my face

CUTIES!

i want to tickle you all senseless.

― The Lady Ms Lurex (lucylurex), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 01:09 (twenty-one years ago)

someone got into the ether again

― benito mussolinington (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 01:09 (twenty-one years ago)

HEY MOBY I GIVE YOU RIMJOB!

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 01:10 (twenty-one years ago)

god bless you, di.

― CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 01:10 (twenty-one years ago)

tad that is revolting. but i would tickle you anyway.

― The Lady Ms Lurex (lucylurex), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 01:12 (twenty-one years ago)

tad is just as revolting in person.

― bnw (bnw), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 01:14 (twenty-one years ago)

i just re-read this thread and got wicked deja vu

― benito mussolinington (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 01:15 (twenty-one years ago)

hey DB sorry i'm not tryin to derail your thread. i take the question very seriously, i just don't know how to answer it. sad thing is i say stupider stuff IRL than i say on the boards.

― The Lady Ms Lurex (lucylurex), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 01:19 (twenty-one years ago)

how many people honestly feel like they post in some sort of character here? and how many people take it at all seriously?

― benito mussolinington (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 01:21 (twenty-one years ago)

1.) duh, 2.) not in the slightest

― benito mussolinington (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 01:21 (twenty-one years ago)

1) yes of course
2) used to, big mistake

― mark p (Mark P), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 01:22 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm sorry, if I offended you.

― RJG (RJG), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 01:22 (twenty-one years ago)

oh obviously i used to take it waaaaaay too seriously. there's no reason to deny that.

― benito mussolinington (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 01:22 (twenty-one years ago)

i'm actually surprised that i am pretty much the same IRL as i am here. except i'm lazier and louder online than IRL.

and less revolting (nyeh nyeh bnw :-p)

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 01:23 (twenty-one years ago)

1) yes, but not all the time. and i feel like that off the internet too. 2) depends on the person.

― The Lady Ms Lurex (lucylurex), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 01:26 (twenty-one years ago)

my character has a +3 saving throw vs noise dudes and the gay scotsman clan.

― bnw (bnw), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 01:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Because body language and tone of voice don't come across very well on the interweb.
This is my favorite on-topic post on this thread thus far. Thanks, Ian.

I myself would at least like to really feel a great deal of affection toward every single one of you guys out there. I mean, I feel like the only people on this forum who have a problem with me have a problem with me at least partly because of my own doing, which is much more preferable than having someone have a problem with me for no apparent reason at all, and without said person actually taking the time to actually get to connect with me. This totally makes this forum a great deal better than almost every single other one out there; to me, regret is a much easier emotion to deal with than anger mixed with confusion and puzzlement.

Sure, sometimes I might feel a palpable sense of loneliness because it seems I'm the only person around here who does certain things (e.g. attend weekly Mass services) and part of the reason why I harp on about some of these things is because I'm hoping someone else will go, "I do the same exact thing!", but as each day progresses I realize that's just a part of modern day human existence. And the rest of this point I shall save for my little journal thingy.

I wish political blogs were more like some music blogs, where instead of "SEE? SEE? MY TEAM IS RIGHT! HERE ARE 50 LINKS TO PROVE IT!" we got a little more of the author trying to figure out things for themselves, a little more admission that they don't know what their position is.
This is a fantastic idea, bnw. Maybe I should try to work on creating another journal to explore why I think the way I think when it comes to certain sociopolitical beliefs of mine. Or something.

― Many Coloured Halo (Dee the Lurker), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 01:36 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh, and I must admit to one thing -- I was born with a birth defect that mandates I take everything as seriously as I possibly can. "Just kidding" has little significance to me. Irony is not part of my makeup. So I can't not take something at face value, not unless I know someone really well.

― Many Coloured Halo (Dee the Lurker), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 01:38 (twenty-one years ago)

I like your green shirt, Anthony!

― Homosexual II (Homosexual II), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 01:52 (twenty-one years ago)

how many people honestly feel like they post in some sort of character here? and how many people take it at all seriously?

(a) if "in character" means "different from the way I act in person" then no, at least I don't think so.

(b) I used to. Less and less so lately.

― stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 02:33 (twenty-one years ago)

a) Yes, probably. But it's still "me".

b) These days, not at all, really.

― AdamL :') (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 02:36 (twenty-one years ago)

The person who best examplifies this: Momus. Nick Curry (the man) is a dear in person, thoughtful and funny and sweet. Momus (the mask) is such an ass sometimess, I want to smack him hard.

― somebody, Tuesday, 29 June 2004 03:07 (twenty-one years ago)

I suppose it's my own fault that I'm so irritated.

I read ILX both from at work, where I have a fast, (mostly) reliable, FREE broadband connection, and at home, where I have a slow, clunky, connection which I pay BT rates BY THE MINUTE for. Yes, it's my own fault that I post from home, when really, I should be constrain myself to only posting from work.

Yes, it's my own fault that I surf with images turned on. At work, I have broadband, and can handle whatever gets thrown my way, because hey, it's free. 99% of the people on ILX post small images that are on-topic and actually informative, so it's actually worth paying for the extra 5 seconds to download them, or else they confine their huge images to picture-threads.

One person on ILX consistently posts huge, high-resolution images, often with no actual connection to the subject being discussed, repeatedly, dozens of images in a row, often attached to wacky scripts. I *try* to avoid clicking on these threads when I'm at home, like I try to avoid clicking on my own image-heavy threads when I'm at home, and like I avoid clicking on C*l*m threads, because I know they will only wind me up, and I just can't be bothered.

But the images freaking pop up all over the place. THIS COSTS ME MONEY. Sure, maybe it's only a few pence at a time, but you know, if I was in a social setting, and someone repeatedly kept reaching into my pocket and taking my money without my consent, I'd have them prosecuted for theft.

OK, it's my fault for posting from home. It's my fault for not investing the time and money in getting a faster connection in my home. It's my fault for leaving the images turned on so that I can enjoy the responsible image use of 99% of other posters. Yeah, it's my choice, and ultimately my phone bill that I have to accept responsibility for.

That's a lot of blame I'm willing to take. But how much freaking imposition do I have to take in order for one cunt to get his jollies?

This will pretty much be moot at the end of this week, as I'm moving into a house with no landline and no internet connection. But I just wanted to get it off my chest and out of my system exactly WHY I'm irritated and "acting like a cockfarmer". I am "acting like a cockfarmer" because Jon Williams' jollies COST ME MONEY.

No need to offer helpful hints about even more ways I can bend over backwards to avoid being imposed upon. I think that minimising my ILX use will actually be good for me.

― He wants to be me (kate), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 07:07 (twenty-one years ago)

You know if you turn images off they become links, right? It's not like you can't see the images you'd like to that way. It's faster, too.

― Andrew Blood Thames (Andrew Thames), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 07:14 (twenty-one years ago)

x-post. Yes, I know it. It still takes more time to turn images off and on every time I log on from a different place.

anyway...

I really just don't understand the abnegation of responsibility that some of the posters here seem to indulge in.

Maybe I'm overly concerned with this sort of thing, but if I consistently piss someone off, online or IRL, my first thought is "What am I doing to provoke this anger?" Really. That's my first thought. "What did I do?"

I examine my behaviour and my motivations, and if I find I am doing something that I would consider irritating, then that's *my* problem, and I apologise, explain, and try not to do it again. If I'm doing something that I don't consider irritating, or something that is so deeply engrained in my personality that it would be impossible to change it, then yes, that is *their* problem.

It's just amazing how certain folks on ILX (not just JW) can skip directly to the second half without ever even considering the first part.

There is a certain kind of character that seems to take pride in being consistently hated. If you take pride for being hated for sticking to your principles, or doing right in the face of wrong, I can understand that pride. But too many people forget the principles bit, and just concentrate on just being hated, because hey, even negative attention is better than no attention. To me, that is inconsiderate, selfish, not to mention extremely childish.

Anyway. That's my 2p. I'm off to bank my tax return. For all the irritation that ILX has often caused me, getting a big fat check I never knew I was entitled to, because of useful advice given on ILX almost... almost... makes up for it. That'll pay my phone bill for a few years.

― He wants to be me (kate), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 07:27 (twenty-one years ago)

x-post. Yes, I know it. It still takes more time to turn images off and on every time I log on from a different place.
anyway...

I really just don't understand the abnegation of responsibility that some of the posters here seem to indulge in.

Ha ha! That's actually unintentionally very funny - hypocrisy in juxtaposition. Like I said, it will no longer matter in two days. Kill-file to automatically turn certain posters' pictures into links is how I would program it, but hey, I'm justifiably not a programmer here. ;-)

― He wants to be me (kate), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 07:34 (twenty-one years ago)

Kate, you are so right. The anonymity of the InterWeb seems to allow such behaviour, because if these people would act like this in real life, they would have no friends. Or perhaps they've already pissed off all their friends, so they have to piss off strangers online. Still, I can't see the point of that. If none of other people mean anything to them, why post on boards at all. And if other folks do mean something to them, why not act like a sensible person, and get respected as such? Surely being respected is better than being hated?

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 07:50 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.40akers.com/ahealthycry.JPG

"Yes, it's my own fault that I surf with images turned on."
"Yes, it's my own fault that I surf with images turned on."
"Yes, it's my own fault that I surf with images turned on."
"Yes, it's my own fault that I surf with images turned on."
"Yes, it's my own fault that I surf with images turned on."

often attached to wacky scripts. ?????

― Player Piano Gamelan (ex machina), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 11:29 (twenty-one years ago)

everyone binges on coke and mdma before going to ILX meet ups.

― Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 11:33 (twenty-one years ago)

LOL you pretty much have to!

― LC, Tuesday, 29 June 2004 11:34 (twenty-one years ago)

the meat ups on the other hand are a different story.

― Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 11:35 (twenty-one years ago)

i think people being surprisingly nicer in real life than online is an overhyped cliché.

― ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 11:44 (twenty-one years ago)

http://graphics.stanford.edu/~bjohanso/england/glasgow/haggis.jpg

― Player Piano Gamelan (ex machina), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 11:47 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.sccs.swarthmore.edu/users/03/easter/images/haggis.jpg

― Player Piano Gamelan (ex machina), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 11:47 (twenty-one years ago)

i'm sure some people strive to be that person who is annoying online but nice in real life though. this annoyingness really is an affectation, and a desire to be someone who is annoying online but nice in real life is as bad as 18th century fops who painted their faces white with little black hearts drawn on their cheeks, held hankies to their noses and spoke in high-pitched giggles.

HA HA xpost

― ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 11:49 (twenty-one years ago)

where's my snuff, bitch?

― Player Piano Gamelan (ex machina), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 11:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Ha ha, I almost bought a haggis today!

― Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 11:52 (twenty-one years ago)

It was in the reduced section in Safeway!

― Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 11:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Was it past the date of expiration?

― Player Piano Gamelan (ex machina), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 11:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Haggis's don't expire they mature. Should that be Haggis'?!?!?

― Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 11:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Haggises

― ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 12:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Hagges.

― mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 12:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Haggii

― ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 12:24 (twenty-one years ago)

i had haggis for the first time recently & it was GREAT!

― s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 12:26 (twenty-one years ago)

I want to have haggis with a fried egg on top right now

― chris (chris), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 12:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Vegan Haggis

This impressive dish will be a triumph at your Burns Night supper.

Contributed by Mike Lewis

The haggis is Scotland's most famous contribution to the culinary arts. Vegetarians who know what it contains would leave the country rather than risk eating it, but fortunately we have found an excellent vegan version which is not only healthier than the original, it tastes a lot better too.

Haggis is, of course, the centerpiece of the traditional Burns Night supper, held each year on January 25. It is served amid much pomp and ceremony - not to mention whisky. It is usually eaten with mashed potato and neeps (rutabaga), the two vegetables often being mashed together with a liberal dose of ground pepper.

This recipe can be prepared in advance, ready to bake before serving. The quantities are for four people, but don't worry if the servings look small - the dish is very filling.

* ½ cup (3 oz, 75 g) fine oatmeal (the pinhead variety works best)
* 2/3 cup (4 oz, 110g) of brown or green lentils
* 1 large onion, chopped
* 1 tbsp. vegetable oil
* 2 large carrots, finely grated
* 4 to 6 mushrooms, sliced
* 1 tsp. ground spices (your choice of cumin, turmeric, paprika or nutmeg, in any combination)
* 1 tbsp. soy sauce
* One 14-oz (400 g) can of kidney beans, drained and rinsed
* 2 cloves of garlic, finely minced
* Salt and pepper to taste
* Knob of dairy-free margarine

Oven: Pre-heat to 375F (190C)

Put the oatmeal in a bowl and cover with water. Let it stand for at least an hour. Drain thoroughly.

Place the lentils in a pan of water and boil rapidly for 20 - 30 minutes or until soft (the time will vary according to the type of lentils). When the lentils are ready, drain and rinse them in a sieve.

Sautée the onion in the oil until it is soft. Add the carrots and mushrooms, and cook for a little longer. Then add the spices, soy sauce, cooked lentils and about a quarter of the kidney beans.

Using a food processor or blender, purée the remainder of the beans to form a thick paste (add a little water if necessary to prevent it getting too stiff). Add this to the lentil and vegetable mixture.

Finally, add the drained oatmeal, salt and pepper, and the garlic. If the mixture looks too dry, add the margarine. Mix well.

Transfer to an oven-proof dish and bake for 30 to 40 minutes.

March 2003

― Player Piano Gamelan (ex machina), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 12:30 (twenty-one years ago)

i thought i would check back to this thread and see how it was going and well what a waste of 2 minutes of my life that was

― stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 17:54 (twenty-one years ago)

hi, steve.

― lauren (laurenp), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 18:00 (twenty-one years ago)

What steve, no love for haggises, haggii, hag.... oh fuck it

― Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 18:02 (twenty-one years ago)

i thought i'd try and spice up this boring thread a little bit, but what a waste of my thyme that was.

― ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 18:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Let me give you some sage advice: quit peppering your posts with such terrible puns.

― St. Nicholas (Nick A.), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 18:08 (twenty-one years ago)

simmer down enchilada

― stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 18:09 (twenty-one years ago)

omg that was terrible

also tokyo rosemary to thread

― ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 18:10 (twenty-one years ago)

C'mon guys, stevem mustard up the courage to cumin to the thread again. Be nice.

― Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 18:12 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm listening to Van Halen.

Sorry I missed you when you were in town DB.

― jel -- (jel), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 18:12 (twenty-one years ago)

This thread is EGG-CELLENT! How EGG-STRAORDINARY! Please EGG-SCUSE me!

― St. Nicholas (Nick A.), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 18:12 (twenty-one years ago)

ken: huh? oh, wait, nevermind.

― tokyo rosemary (rosemary), Wednesday, 30 June 2004 00:41 (twenty-one years ago)

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